From clh at christopherhawkins.com  Wed Jun  1 02:43:05 2005
From: clh at christopherhawkins.com (Christopher Hawkins)
Date: Wed, 1 Jun 2005 01:43:05 -0600
Subject: [AccessD] OT: Icons
Message-ID: <71409e737f5144de8915a5d7a975fa34@christopherhawkins.com>

http://www.glyfx.com/?offers a decent set of free icons, and their purchasable sets are pretty good.? Affordable too.? Check them out.

-C-

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 From: "Andy Lacey" <andy at minstersystems.co.uk>
Sent: Friday, May 27, 2005 2:05 PM
To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'" <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Subject: RE: [AccessD] OT: Icons 

Whoa. That'll keep me occupied. Thanks Brett.

-- Andy Lacey
http://www.minstersystems.co.uk 

> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com 
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of 
> Brett Barabash
> Sent: 27 May 2005 15:39
> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> Subject: RE: [AccessD] OT: Icons
> 
> 
> This was discussed a while ago.
> Credit Goes to Joe Rojas, Joshua B, Martin, Drew and Francisco.
> 
> http://www.marvilla.us/
> http://www.foood.net/icons/ http://www.studiotwentyeight.net/icons.htm
> http://xcession.web1000.com/pages/default.html
> http://www.hardwaregeeks.com/board/forumdisplay.php?s=&forumid=128
> http://www.jonmega.com/~clotz/ 
> http://www.deskmod.com/?show=showcat&cat_name=icons
> http://www.deviantart.com/browse/t/icon/winicons/
> http://www.dotico.com/
> http://icons.visualnoise.net/
> http://icons.wbchug.net/
> http://www.deathlace.tk/
> http://www.logipole.com/
> http://axialis.com
> http://www.aha-soft.com/iconxp/index.htm
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Andy Lacey
> Sent: Friday, May 27, 2005 8:22 AM
> To: Dba
> Subject: [AccessD] OT: Icons
> 
> 
> Hi all
> Does anyone have a source for good icons/images? Serious, 
> neat ones not cartoon-y. I alwsys run into this problem when 
> the customer asks for a picture on a screen. I've got DIB 
> Pictures but that's limited to Windows-related stuff, so when 
> I need a car, an ambulance, a fire, etc I'm stuffed. And when 
> I Google "free icons" I get a million links, mostly to sites 
> which want to charge you in the end. Any good pointers?
> --
> Andy Lacey
> http://www.minstersystems.co.uk
> 
> 
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From lembit.soobik at t-online.de  Wed Jun  1 03:08:22 2005
From: lembit.soobik at t-online.de (Lembit Soobik)
Date: Wed, 1 Jun 2005 10:08:22 +0200
Subject: [AccessD] OT: Icons
References: <71409e737f5144de8915a5d7a975fa34@christopherhawkins.com>
Message-ID: <00b601c56681$141b1260$0800a8c0@s856>

and I just found out that Irfanview, a free software, can convert your JPG 
or BMP or whatever to ICO.
so you can make your own icons also.

Lembit

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From: "Christopher Hawkins" <clh at christopherhawkins.com>
To: <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Wednesday, June 01, 2005 9:43 AM
Subject: RE: [AccessD] OT: Icons


http://www.glyfx.com/ offers a decent set of free icons, and their 
purchasable sets are pretty good. Affordable too. Check them out.

-C-

----------------------------------------
 From: "Andy Lacey" <andy at minstersystems.co.uk>
Sent: Friday, May 27, 2005 2:05 PM
To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'" 
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Subject: RE: [AccessD] OT: Icons

Whoa. That'll keep me occupied. Thanks Brett.

-- Andy Lacey
http://www.minstersystems.co.uk

> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of
> Brett Barabash
> Sent: 27 May 2005 15:39
> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> Subject: RE: [AccessD] OT: Icons
>
>
> This was discussed a while ago.
> Credit Goes to Joe Rojas, Joshua B, Martin, Drew and Francisco.
>
> http://www.marvilla.us/
> http://www.foood.net/icons/ http://www.studiotwentyeight.net/icons.htm
> http://xcession.web1000.com/pages/default.html
> http://www.hardwaregeeks.com/board/forumdisplay.php?s=&forumid=128
> http://www.jonmega.com/~clotz/
> http://www.deskmod.com/?show=showcat&cat_name=icons
> http://www.deviantart.com/browse/t/icon/winicons/
> http://www.dotico.com/
> http://icons.visualnoise.net/
> http://icons.wbchug.net/
> http://www.deathlace.tk/
> http://www.logipole.com/
> http://axialis.com
> http://www.aha-soft.com/iconxp/index.htm
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Andy Lacey
> Sent: Friday, May 27, 2005 8:22 AM
> To: Dba
> Subject: [AccessD] OT: Icons
>
>
> Hi all
> Does anyone have a source for good icons/images? Serious,
> neat ones not cartoon-y. I alwsys run into this problem when
> the customer asks for a picture on a screen. I've got DIB
> Pictures but that's limited to Windows-related stuff, so when
> I need a car, an ambulance, a fire, etc I'm stuffed. And when
> I Google "free icons" I get a million links, mostly to sites
> which want to charge you in the end. Any good pointers?
> --
> Andy Lacey
> http://www.minstersystems.co.uk
>
>
>
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From cyx5 at cdc.gov  Wed Jun  1 05:57:47 2005
From: cyx5 at cdc.gov (Nicholson, Karen)
Date: Wed, 1 Jun 2005 06:57:47 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] The Sleep Advisor - Version 5 - Call for Beta Testers
Message-ID: <A5B5AA20555F594BA7B6BD2048E49E4376F94C@m-niosh-5.niosh.cdc.gov>

I took the survey and sent in my results.  It is a great system.  I did
not try to break it - I answered the questions as ordered.  I will
download again today if that is possible and try to be stupid and not
answer yes or no to some of the questions to see if it error traps me
for a reply. 

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Rocky Smolin
- Beach Access Software
Sent: Tuesday, May 31, 2005 2:49 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] The Sleep Advisor - Version 5 - Call for Beta
Testers

Thanks.  My partner actually caught that one. Fixed but not posted yet.
Any other?  All typo notices gratefully accepted.

Rocky

----- Original Message -----
From: "Nicholson, Karen" <cyx5 at cdc.gov>
To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving" 
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Tuesday, May 31, 2005 10:52 AM
Subject: RE: [AccessD] The Sleep Advisor - Version 5 - Call for Beta
Testers


> Grammar lady.  Assessment is mis-spelled on the overview screen.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Rocky
Smolin
> - Beach Access Software
> Sent: Tuesday, May 31, 2005 12:53 PM
> To: AccessD at databaseadvisors.com
> Subject: [AccessD] The Sleep Advisor - Version 5 - Call for Beta
Testers
>
> Dear List:
>
> Version 5 of The Sleep Advisor is now ready for beta testing:
>
> All new graphics!
> Reorganized friendlier reporting!
> All new bugs!
>
> There is a Wise/Sagekey run-time download available at
> http://www.drnaiman.com/sleepad.php
>
> or for those of you who have Access 2003 you can email me off line and
> I'll send you just the mde.
>
> Although it runs on Windows 2000 I have noticed some problems that
don't
> affect the operation or outcome of the program - just the esthetics
(in
> particular, I have an embedded background graphic that doesn't display
> under W2K but does fine under WXP, go figure).
>
> For those who may not be aware, The Sleep Advisor is an expert system
> designed to diagnose the most common sleep problems - insomnias,
apnea,
> narcolepsy, hypersomnia, etc., as well as identify a variety of sleep
> health related issues such as nocturia, bruxism, jet lag, shift work,
> anxiety disorders, bed and bedroom problems, etc.  The report includes
a
> Guidebook to remedies and recommendations the contents of which are
> tailored to the user's responses and sleep health analysis.
>
> We still need a lot of beta testing to perfect the diagnostic engine.
> In addition, any technical feedback I could get from this list would
be
> of great value.
>
> Hopefully for your time and efforts you'll receive some value from the
> reports.
>
> With many thanks in advance,
>
> Rocky Smolin
> Beach Access Software
> http://www.e-z-mrp.com
> 858-259-4334
>
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From bchacc at san.rr.com  Wed Jun  1 08:29:53 2005
From: bchacc at san.rr.com (Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software)
Date: Wed, 1 Jun 2005 06:29:53 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] The Sleep Advisor - Version 5 - Call for Beta Testers
References: <A5B5AA20555F594BA7B6BD2048E49E4376F94C@m-niosh-5.niosh.cdc.gov>
Message-ID: <002301c566ad$fe93c680$6501a8c0@HAL9004>

Karen:

You might not be able to download it to the same address.  If so, let me 
know and I'll just send you the mde.

Tanks and regards,

Rocky

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Nicholson, Karen" <cyx5 at cdc.gov>
To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving" 
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Wednesday, June 01, 2005 3:57 AM
Subject: RE: [AccessD] The Sleep Advisor - Version 5 - Call for Beta Testers


>I took the survey and sent in my results.  It is a great system.  I did
> not try to break it - I answered the questions as ordered.  I will
> download again today if that is possible and try to be stupid and not
> answer yes or no to some of the questions to see if it error traps me
> for a reply.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Rocky Smolin
> - Beach Access Software
> Sent: Tuesday, May 31, 2005 2:49 PM
> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] The Sleep Advisor - Version 5 - Call for Beta
> Testers
>
> Thanks.  My partner actually caught that one. Fixed but not posted yet.
> Any other?  All typo notices gratefully accepted.
>
> Rocky
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Nicholson, Karen" <cyx5 at cdc.gov>
> To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving"
> <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, May 31, 2005 10:52 AM
> Subject: RE: [AccessD] The Sleep Advisor - Version 5 - Call for Beta
> Testers
>
>
>> Grammar lady.  Assessment is mis-spelled on the overview screen.
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Rocky
> Smolin
>> - Beach Access Software
>> Sent: Tuesday, May 31, 2005 12:53 PM
>> To: AccessD at databaseadvisors.com
>> Subject: [AccessD] The Sleep Advisor - Version 5 - Call for Beta
> Testers
>>
>> Dear List:
>>
>> Version 5 of The Sleep Advisor is now ready for beta testing:
>>
>> All new graphics!
>> Reorganized friendlier reporting!
>> All new bugs!
>>
>> There is a Wise/Sagekey run-time download available at
>> http://www.drnaiman.com/sleepad.php
>>
>> or for those of you who have Access 2003 you can email me off line and
>> I'll send you just the mde.
>>
>> Although it runs on Windows 2000 I have noticed some problems that
> don't
>> affect the operation or outcome of the program - just the esthetics
> (in
>> particular, I have an embedded background graphic that doesn't display
>> under W2K but does fine under WXP, go figure).
>>
>> For those who may not be aware, The Sleep Advisor is an expert system
>> designed to diagnose the most common sleep problems - insomnias,
> apnea,
>> narcolepsy, hypersomnia, etc., as well as identify a variety of sleep
>> health related issues such as nocturia, bruxism, jet lag, shift work,
>> anxiety disorders, bed and bedroom problems, etc.  The report includes
> a
>> Guidebook to remedies and recommendations the contents of which are
>> tailored to the user's responses and sleep health analysis.
>>
>> We still need a lot of beta testing to perfect the diagnostic engine.
>> In addition, any technical feedback I could get from this list would
> be
>> of great value.
>>
>> Hopefully for your time and efforts you'll receive some value from the
>> reports.
>>
>> With many thanks in advance,
>>
>> Rocky Smolin
>> Beach Access Software
>> http://www.e-z-mrp.com
>> 858-259-4334
>>
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From JRojas at tnco-inc.com  Wed Jun  1 08:31:32 2005
From: JRojas at tnco-inc.com (Joe Rojas)
Date: Wed, 1 Jun 2005 09:31:32 -0400 
Subject: [AccessD] Queries vs In-line SQL
Message-ID: <0CC84C9461AE6445AD5A602001C41C4B05A2FD@mercury.tnco-inc.com>

Is there a performance increase between in-line SQL and queries in Access
2000?

For example:

Going from
CurrentDB.Execute "SELECT * FROM MyTable"

To putting the SELECT statement above in a query?

Thanks!
JR





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From Lambert.Heenan at AIG.com  Wed Jun  1 09:19:55 2005
From: Lambert.Heenan at AIG.com (Heenan, Lambert)
Date: Wed, 1 Jun 2005 10:19:55 -0400 
Subject: [AccessD] More Silly Access 2002 Behavior
Message-ID: <1D7828CDB8350747AFE9D69E0E90DA1F10BB502D@xlivmbx21.aig.com>

X-Posted to Access-L and Access-D

Has anyone yet figured out why Access 2002 often seems to take *for ever* to
save a single line of code changes? For example I just loaded a working
form, added a Stop statement to one event procedure and hit the save button.
After a five minute wait the save operation completed and the mdb was 4
megabytes larger! Fortunately it compacted (often I'll get an error of the
'can I call home to tell MS about this problem' variety).

Lambert (ain't progress wun'erful)



From cfoust at infostatsystems.com  Wed Jun  1 10:10:16 2005
From: cfoust at infostatsystems.com (Charlotte Foust)
Date: Wed, 1 Jun 2005 08:10:16 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Queries vs In-line SQL
Message-ID: <E61FC1D4B1918244905B113C680BEA86873A61@infoserver01.infostat.local>

In 2000 and later, saved queries are optimized and so should execute
faster than on the fly queries, including the sort generated in code.

Charlotte Foust


-----Original Message-----
From: Joe Rojas [mailto:JRojas at tnco-inc.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, June 01, 2005 6:32 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] Queries vs In-line SQL


Is there a performance increase between in-line SQL and queries in
Access 2000?

For example:

Going from
CurrentDB.Execute "SELECT * FROM MyTable"

To putting the SELECT statement above in a query?

Thanks!
JR





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From cfoust at infostatsystems.com  Wed Jun  1 10:15:09 2005
From: cfoust at infostatsystems.com (Charlotte Foust)
Date: Wed, 1 Jun 2005 08:15:09 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] More Silly Access 2002 Behavior
Message-ID: <E61FC1D4B1918244905B113C680BEA86873A62@infoserver01.infostat.local>

Are you sure that's the only thing going on at that time?  Background
applications can cause this behavior as well.  For example, I use
Junk-Out, and when Outlook is running, I notice occasional pauses in
other applications when it is filtering.  That said, I do notice the
occasional "coffee break" in Access XP, although nothing like you are
describing.

Charlotte Foust


-----Original Message-----
From: Heenan, Lambert [mailto:Lambert.Heenan at aig.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, June 01, 2005 7:20 AM
To: 'ACCESS-L Email (ACCESS-L at PEACH.EASE.LSOFT.COM)'; 'Access-D Email
(accessd at databaseadvisors.com)'
Subject: [AccessD] More Silly Access 2002 Behavior


X-Posted to Access-L and Access-D

Has anyone yet figured out why Access 2002 often seems to take *for
ever* to save a single line of code changes? For example I just loaded a
working form, added a Stop statement to one event procedure and hit the
save button. After a five minute wait the save operation completed and
the mdb was 4 megabytes larger! Fortunately it compacted (often I'll get
an error of the 'can I call home to tell MS about this problem'
variety).

Lambert (ain't progress wun'erful)

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From MarkBoyd at McBeeAssociates.com  Wed Jun  1 10:53:29 2005
From: MarkBoyd at McBeeAssociates.com (Mark Boyd)
Date: Wed, 1 Jun 2005 11:53:29 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Excel Macro Automation from within Access
Message-ID: <974F830FE464C14E8652F95E24DA663C043F6B@mail03.Mcbassoc.com>

Thanks to everyone who helped with this issue.  I greatly appreciate it.
The only issue that I'm now having is the excel file seems to be created
with Excel 5.0/95.  I'm using Office 2003, and the excel file is created
with ("DoCmd.OutputTo acOutputReport, strXLName, acFormatXLS, "c:\" &
strXLName & ".xls", False").  Why does Access create the file using a
lower version of Office than what is running on the client?  Is there a
way to specify the Office version when exporting the file?

FYI - The macro automation function is below:

Function ExcelMacro(ByVal strFileName As String)
On Error GoTo Err_ExcelMacro
    Dim xlApp         As Excel.Application
    Dim xlWkb         As Excel.Workbook
    
    If fIsAppRunning("Excel") Then
        Set xlApp = GetObject(, "Excel.Application")
    Else
        Set xlApp = CreateObject("Excel.Application")
    End If
       
    xlApp.Application.Visible = True
    Set xlWkb = xlApp.Workbooks.Open(strFileName, 0)
    
    'run Excel macro code here
    '...
    '...
    'end macro code

Exit_ExcelMacro:
On Error Resume Next
    
    Set xlWkb = Nothing
    Set xlApp = Nothing
    Exit Function

Err_ExcelMacro:
    Select Case Err
        Case 0      'insert Errors you wish to ignore here
            Resume Next
        Case Else   'All other errors will trap
            MsgBox Err.Number & " - " & Err.Description, vbCritical,
"Error"
            Resume Exit_ExcelMacro
    End Select
End Function

Thanks again,
Mark Boyd
I/S Supervisor
McBee Associates, Inc.


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gustav Brock
Sent: Thursday, May 26, 2005 5:22 AM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Excel Macro Automation from within Access

Hi Mark

Here is how (as I learned from Mr. Colby). 
It works very reliably:

Function RunExcelMacros( _
  ByVal strFileName As String, _
  ParamArray avarMacros()) As Boolean

Debug.Print "xl ini", Time
  
  On Error GoTo Err_RunExcelMacros

  Static xlApp      As Excel.Application
  Dim xlWkb         As Excel.Workbook
  
  Dim varMacro      As Variant
  Dim booSuccess    As Boolean
  Dim booTerminate  As Boolean

  If Len(strFileName) = 0 Then
    ' Excel shall be closed.
    booTerminate = True
  End If

  If xlApp Is Nothing Then
    If booTerminate = False Then
      Set xlApp = New Excel.Application
    End If
  ElseIf booTerminate = True Then
    xlApp.Quit
    Set xlApp = Nothing
  End If
  
  If booTerminate = False Then
    Set xlWkb = xlApp.Workbooks.Open(FileName:=strFileName,
UpdateLinks:=0, ReadOnly:=True)
  
    ' Make Excel visible (for troubleshooting only) or not.
    xlApp.Visible = False 'True
    
    For Each varMacro In avarMacros()
      If Not Len(varMacro) = 0 Then
  Debug.Print "xl run", Time, varMacro
        booSuccess = xlApp.Run(varMacro)
      End If
    Next varMacro
  Else
    booSuccess = True
  End If
  
  RunExcelMacros = booSuccess

Exit_RunExcelMacros:

  On Error Resume Next
    
  If booTerminate = False Then
    xlWkb.Close SaveChanges:=False
    Set xlWkb = Nothing
  End If
  
Debug.Print "xl end", Time
  Exit Function

Err_RunExcelMacros:
  Select Case Err
    Case 0      'insert Errors you wish to ignore here
      Resume Next
    Case Else   'All other errors will trap
      Beep
      MsgBox "Error: " & Err & ". " & Err.Description, vbCritical +
vbOKOnly, "Error, macro " & varMacro
      Resume Exit_RunExcelMacros
  End Select

End Function

/gustav

>>> MarkBoyd at McBeeAssociates.com 05/25 11:28 pm >>>
I have a need to run Excel macro code from within Access VBA.
Basically, the code logic flows as follows:
1. Export Access report as a new Excel file (DoCmd.OutputTo
acOutputReport, strXLName, acFormatXLS, , True) 2. Run Excel macro (from
within Access VBA) to format the Excel file accordingly.
 
Does anyone have any sample code and/or resources related to this logic?
Any help is greatly appreciated.
 
Thanks,
Mark Boyd
I/S Supervisor
McBee Associates, Inc.

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From donald.a.Mcgillivray at mail.sprint.com  Wed Jun  1 10:54:24 2005
From: donald.a.Mcgillivray at mail.sprint.com (Mcgillivray, Don [ITS])
Date: Wed, 1 Jun 2005 10:54:24 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Queries vs In-line SQL
Message-ID: <EC829B33DF5B5B48A956B7A2E894AA9A051BEC@PLSWB06C.ad.sprint.com>

And (acknowledging that you may have simply banged out a simple SQL
statement for illustrative purposes) "CurrentDB.Execute" works only for
"action" (update, append, delete, etc.) queries.  A select query won't
"execute".

Don

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Charlotte
Foust
Sent: Wednesday, June 01, 2005 8:10 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Queries vs In-line SQL


In 2000 and later, saved queries are optimized and so should execute
faster than on the fly queries, including the sort generated in code.

Charlotte Foust


-----Original Message-----
From: Joe Rojas [mailto:JRojas at tnco-inc.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, June 01, 2005 6:32 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] Queries vs In-line SQL


Is there a performance increase between in-line SQL and queries in
Access 2000?

For example:

Going from
CurrentDB.Execute "SELECT * FROM MyTable"

To putting the SELECT statement above in a query?

Thanks!
JR



From Lambert.Heenan at AIG.com  Wed Jun  1 11:08:30 2005
From: Lambert.Heenan at AIG.com (Heenan, Lambert)
Date: Wed, 1 Jun 2005 12:08:30 -0400 
Subject: [AccessD] Excel Macro Automation from within Access
Message-ID: <1D7828CDB8350747AFE9D69E0E90DA1F10BB50C1@xlivmbx21.aig.com>

You cannot set the excel type with OutputTo, but with
DoCmd.TransferSpreadsheet you can.

Lambert

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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Mark Boyd
Sent: Wednesday, June 01, 2005 11:53 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Excel Macro Automation from within Access


Thanks to everyone who helped with this issue.  I greatly appreciate it. The
only issue that I'm now having is the excel file seems to be created with
Excel 5.0/95.  I'm using Office 2003, and the excel file is created with
("DoCmd.OutputTo acOutputReport, strXLName, acFormatXLS, "c:\" & strXLName &
".xls", False").  Why does Access create the file using a lower version of
Office than what is running on the client?  Is there a way to specify the
Office version when exporting the file?

FYI - The macro automation function is below:

Function ExcelMacro(ByVal strFileName As String)
On Error GoTo Err_ExcelMacro
    Dim xlApp         As Excel.Application
    Dim xlWkb         As Excel.Workbook
    
    If fIsAppRunning("Excel") Then
        Set xlApp = GetObject(, "Excel.Application")
    Else
        Set xlApp = CreateObject("Excel.Application")
    End If
       
    xlApp.Application.Visible = True
    Set xlWkb = xlApp.Workbooks.Open(strFileName, 0)
    
    'run Excel macro code here
    '...
    '...
    'end macro code

Exit_ExcelMacro:
On Error Resume Next
    
    Set xlWkb = Nothing
    Set xlApp = Nothing
    Exit Function

Err_ExcelMacro:
    Select Case Err
        Case 0      'insert Errors you wish to ignore here
            Resume Next
        Case Else   'All other errors will trap
            MsgBox Err.Number & " - " & Err.Description, vbCritical, "Error"
            Resume Exit_ExcelMacro
    End Select
End Function

Thanks again,
Mark Boyd
I/S Supervisor
McBee Associates, Inc.


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gustav Brock
Sent: Thursday, May 26, 2005 5:22 AM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Excel Macro Automation from within Access

Hi Mark

Here is how (as I learned from Mr. Colby). 
It works very reliably:

Function RunExcelMacros( _
  ByVal strFileName As String, _
  ParamArray avarMacros()) As Boolean

Debug.Print "xl ini", Time
  
  On Error GoTo Err_RunExcelMacros

  Static xlApp      As Excel.Application
  Dim xlWkb         As Excel.Workbook
  
  Dim varMacro      As Variant
  Dim booSuccess    As Boolean
  Dim booTerminate  As Boolean

  If Len(strFileName) = 0 Then
    ' Excel shall be closed.
    booTerminate = True
  End If

  If xlApp Is Nothing Then
    If booTerminate = False Then
      Set xlApp = New Excel.Application
    End If
  ElseIf booTerminate = True Then
    xlApp.Quit
    Set xlApp = Nothing
  End If
  
  If booTerminate = False Then
    Set xlWkb = xlApp.Workbooks.Open(FileName:=strFileName,
UpdateLinks:=0, ReadOnly:=True)
  
    ' Make Excel visible (for troubleshooting only) or not.
    xlApp.Visible = False 'True
    
    For Each varMacro In avarMacros()
      If Not Len(varMacro) = 0 Then
  Debug.Print "xl run", Time, varMacro
        booSuccess = xlApp.Run(varMacro)
      End If
    Next varMacro
  Else
    booSuccess = True
  End If
  
  RunExcelMacros = booSuccess

Exit_RunExcelMacros:

  On Error Resume Next
    
  If booTerminate = False Then
    xlWkb.Close SaveChanges:=False
    Set xlWkb = Nothing
  End If
  
Debug.Print "xl end", Time
  Exit Function

Err_RunExcelMacros:
  Select Case Err
    Case 0      'insert Errors you wish to ignore here
      Resume Next
    Case Else   'All other errors will trap
      Beep
      MsgBox "Error: " & Err & ". " & Err.Description, vbCritical +
vbOKOnly, "Error, macro " & varMacro
      Resume Exit_RunExcelMacros
  End Select

End Function

/gustav

>>> MarkBoyd at McBeeAssociates.com 05/25 11:28 pm >>>
I have a need to run Excel macro code from within Access VBA. Basically, the
code logic flows as follows: 1. Export Access report as a new Excel file
(DoCmd.OutputTo acOutputReport, strXLName, acFormatXLS, , True) 2. Run Excel
macro (from within Access VBA) to format the Excel file accordingly.
 
Does anyone have any sample code and/or resources related to this logic? Any
help is greatly appreciated.
 
Thanks,
Mark Boyd
I/S Supervisor
McBee Associates, Inc.

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From MarkBoyd at McBeeAssociates.com  Wed Jun  1 11:23:33 2005
From: MarkBoyd at McBeeAssociates.com (Mark Boyd)
Date: Wed, 1 Jun 2005 12:23:33 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Excel Macro Automation from within Access
Message-ID: <974F830FE464C14E8652F95E24DA663C043F6C@mail03.Mcbassoc.com>

Thanks Lambert.  I can't use DoCmd.TransferSpreadsheet b/c I need to
send an Access report to Excel, not a table or select query.  I would
use a query, but I need to keep the report headings intact.  The macro
that runs afterward formats the headings and columns appropriately.

Mark Boyd
I/S Supervisor
McBee Associates, Inc.


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Heenan,
Lambert
Sent: Wednesday, June 01, 2005 12:09 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Excel Macro Automation from within Access

You cannot set the excel type with OutputTo, but with
DoCmd.TransferSpreadsheet you can.

Lambert

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Mark Boyd
Sent: Wednesday, June 01, 2005 11:53 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Excel Macro Automation from within Access


Thanks to everyone who helped with this issue.  I greatly appreciate it.
The only issue that I'm now having is the excel file seems to be created
with Excel 5.0/95.  I'm using Office 2003, and the excel file is created
with ("DoCmd.OutputTo acOutputReport, strXLName, acFormatXLS, "c:\" &
strXLName & ".xls", False").  Why does Access create the file using a
lower version of Office than what is running on the client?  Is there a
way to specify the Office version when exporting the file?

FYI - The macro automation function is below:

Function ExcelMacro(ByVal strFileName As String) On Error GoTo
Err_ExcelMacro
    Dim xlApp         As Excel.Application
    Dim xlWkb         As Excel.Workbook
    
    If fIsAppRunning("Excel") Then
        Set xlApp = GetObject(, "Excel.Application")
    Else
        Set xlApp = CreateObject("Excel.Application")
    End If
       
    xlApp.Application.Visible = True
    Set xlWkb = xlApp.Workbooks.Open(strFileName, 0)
    
    'run Excel macro code here
    '...
    '...
    'end macro code

Exit_ExcelMacro:
On Error Resume Next
    
    Set xlWkb = Nothing
    Set xlApp = Nothing
    Exit Function

Err_ExcelMacro:
    Select Case Err
        Case 0      'insert Errors you wish to ignore here
            Resume Next
        Case Else   'All other errors will trap
            MsgBox Err.Number & " - " & Err.Description, vbCritical,
"Error"
            Resume Exit_ExcelMacro
    End Select
End Function

Thanks again,
Mark Boyd
I/S Supervisor
McBee Associates, Inc.


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gustav Brock
Sent: Thursday, May 26, 2005 5:22 AM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Excel Macro Automation from within Access

Hi Mark

Here is how (as I learned from Mr. Colby). 
It works very reliably:

Function RunExcelMacros( _
  ByVal strFileName As String, _
  ParamArray avarMacros()) As Boolean

Debug.Print "xl ini", Time
  
  On Error GoTo Err_RunExcelMacros

  Static xlApp      As Excel.Application
  Dim xlWkb         As Excel.Workbook
  
  Dim varMacro      As Variant
  Dim booSuccess    As Boolean
  Dim booTerminate  As Boolean

  If Len(strFileName) = 0 Then
    ' Excel shall be closed.
    booTerminate = True
  End If

  If xlApp Is Nothing Then
    If booTerminate = False Then
      Set xlApp = New Excel.Application
    End If
  ElseIf booTerminate = True Then
    xlApp.Quit
    Set xlApp = Nothing
  End If
  
  If booTerminate = False Then
    Set xlWkb = xlApp.Workbooks.Open(FileName:=strFileName,
UpdateLinks:=0, ReadOnly:=True)
  
    ' Make Excel visible (for troubleshooting only) or not.
    xlApp.Visible = False 'True
    
    For Each varMacro In avarMacros()
      If Not Len(varMacro) = 0 Then
  Debug.Print "xl run", Time, varMacro
        booSuccess = xlApp.Run(varMacro)
      End If
    Next varMacro
  Else
    booSuccess = True
  End If
  
  RunExcelMacros = booSuccess

Exit_RunExcelMacros:

  On Error Resume Next
    
  If booTerminate = False Then
    xlWkb.Close SaveChanges:=False
    Set xlWkb = Nothing
  End If
  
Debug.Print "xl end", Time
  Exit Function

Err_RunExcelMacros:
  Select Case Err
    Case 0      'insert Errors you wish to ignore here
      Resume Next
    Case Else   'All other errors will trap
      Beep
      MsgBox "Error: " & Err & ". " & Err.Description, vbCritical +
vbOKOnly, "Error, macro " & varMacro
      Resume Exit_RunExcelMacros
  End Select

End Function

/gustav

>>> MarkBoyd at McBeeAssociates.com 05/25 11:28 pm >>>
I have a need to run Excel macro code from within Access VBA. Basically,
the code logic flows as follows: 1. Export Access report as a new Excel
file (DoCmd.OutputTo acOutputReport, strXLName, acFormatXLS, , True) 2.
Run Excel macro (from within Access VBA) to format the Excel file
accordingly.
 
Does anyone have any sample code and/or resources related to this logic?
Any help is greatly appreciated.
 
Thanks,
Mark Boyd
I/S Supervisor
McBee Associates, Inc.

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From Lambert.Heenan at AIG.com  Wed Jun  1 11:43:00 2005
From: Lambert.Heenan at AIG.com (Heenan, Lambert)
Date: Wed, 1 Jun 2005 12:43:00 -0400 
Subject: [AccessD] Excel Macro Automation from within Access
Message-ID: <1D7828CDB8350747AFE9D69E0E90DA1F10BB50DC@xlivmbx21.aig.com>

Can't you just design a query that uses the column headings you want to
display?

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Mark Boyd
Sent: Wednesday, June 01, 2005 12:24 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Excel Macro Automation from within Access


Thanks Lambert.  I can't use DoCmd.TransferSpreadsheet b/c I need to send an
Access report to Excel, not a table or select query.  I would use a query,
but I need to keep the report headings intact.  The macro that runs
afterward formats the headings and columns appropriately.

Mark Boyd
I/S Supervisor
McBee Associates, Inc.


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Heenan, Lambert
Sent: Wednesday, June 01, 2005 12:09 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Excel Macro Automation from within Access

You cannot set the excel type with OutputTo, but with
DoCmd.TransferSpreadsheet you can.

Lambert

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Mark Boyd
Sent: Wednesday, June 01, 2005 11:53 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Excel Macro Automation from within Access


Thanks to everyone who helped with this issue.  I greatly appreciate it. The
only issue that I'm now having is the excel file seems to be created with
Excel 5.0/95.  I'm using Office 2003, and the excel file is created with
("DoCmd.OutputTo acOutputReport, strXLName, acFormatXLS, "c:\" & strXLName &
".xls", False").  Why does Access create the file using a lower version of
Office than what is running on the client?  Is there a way to specify the
Office version when exporting the file?

FYI - The macro automation function is below:

Function ExcelMacro(ByVal strFileName As String) On Error GoTo
Err_ExcelMacro
    Dim xlApp         As Excel.Application
    Dim xlWkb         As Excel.Workbook
    
    If fIsAppRunning("Excel") Then
        Set xlApp = GetObject(, "Excel.Application")
    Else
        Set xlApp = CreateObject("Excel.Application")
    End If
       
    xlApp.Application.Visible = True
    Set xlWkb = xlApp.Workbooks.Open(strFileName, 0)
    
    'run Excel macro code here
    '...
    '...
    'end macro code

Exit_ExcelMacro:
On Error Resume Next
    
    Set xlWkb = Nothing
    Set xlApp = Nothing
    Exit Function

Err_ExcelMacro:
    Select Case Err
        Case 0      'insert Errors you wish to ignore here
            Resume Next
        Case Else   'All other errors will trap
            MsgBox Err.Number & " - " & Err.Description, vbCritical, "Error"
            Resume Exit_ExcelMacro
    End Select
End Function

Thanks again,
Mark Boyd
I/S Supervisor
McBee Associates, Inc.


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gustav Brock
Sent: Thursday, May 26, 2005 5:22 AM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Excel Macro Automation from within Access

Hi Mark

Here is how (as I learned from Mr. Colby). 
It works very reliably:

Function RunExcelMacros( _
  ByVal strFileName As String, _
  ParamArray avarMacros()) As Boolean

Debug.Print "xl ini", Time
  
  On Error GoTo Err_RunExcelMacros

  Static xlApp      As Excel.Application
  Dim xlWkb         As Excel.Workbook
  
  Dim varMacro      As Variant
  Dim booSuccess    As Boolean
  Dim booTerminate  As Boolean

  If Len(strFileName) = 0 Then
    ' Excel shall be closed.
    booTerminate = True
  End If

  If xlApp Is Nothing Then
    If booTerminate = False Then
      Set xlApp = New Excel.Application
    End If
  ElseIf booTerminate = True Then
    xlApp.Quit
    Set xlApp = Nothing
  End If
  
  If booTerminate = False Then
    Set xlWkb = xlApp.Workbooks.Open(FileName:=strFileName,
UpdateLinks:=0, ReadOnly:=True)
  
    ' Make Excel visible (for troubleshooting only) or not.
    xlApp.Visible = False 'True
    
    For Each varMacro In avarMacros()
      If Not Len(varMacro) = 0 Then
  Debug.Print "xl run", Time, varMacro
        booSuccess = xlApp.Run(varMacro)
      End If
    Next varMacro
  Else
    booSuccess = True
  End If
  
  RunExcelMacros = booSuccess

Exit_RunExcelMacros:

  On Error Resume Next
    
  If booTerminate = False Then
    xlWkb.Close SaveChanges:=False
    Set xlWkb = Nothing
  End If
  
Debug.Print "xl end", Time
  Exit Function

Err_RunExcelMacros:
  Select Case Err
    Case 0      'insert Errors you wish to ignore here
      Resume Next
    Case Else   'All other errors will trap
      Beep
      MsgBox "Error: " & Err & ". " & Err.Description, vbCritical +
vbOKOnly, "Error, macro " & varMacro
      Resume Exit_RunExcelMacros
  End Select

End Function

/gustav

>>> MarkBoyd at McBeeAssociates.com 05/25 11:28 pm >>>
I have a need to run Excel macro code from within Access VBA. Basically, the
code logic flows as follows: 1. Export Access report as a new Excel file
(DoCmd.OutputTo acOutputReport, strXLName, acFormatXLS, , True) 2. Run Excel
macro (from within Access VBA) to format the Excel file accordingly.
 
Does anyone have any sample code and/or resources related to this logic? Any
help is greatly appreciated.
 
Thanks,
Mark Boyd
I/S Supervisor
McBee Associates, Inc.

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From MarkBoyd at McBeeAssociates.com  Wed Jun  1 12:03:14 2005
From: MarkBoyd at McBeeAssociates.com (Mark Boyd)
Date: Wed, 1 Jun 2005 13:03:14 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Excel Macro Automation from within Access
Message-ID: <974F830FE464C14E8652F95E24DA663C043F6E@mail03.Mcbassoc.com>

It isn't the column headings that I need to preserve, but the data in
the Report Header section, such as titles, sub-titles, etc.

Mark Boyd
I/S Supervisor
McBee Associates, Inc.


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Heenan,
Lambert
Sent: Wednesday, June 01, 2005 12:43 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Excel Macro Automation from within Access

Can't you just design a query that uses the column headings you want to
display?

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Mark Boyd
Sent: Wednesday, June 01, 2005 12:24 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Excel Macro Automation from within Access


Thanks Lambert.  I can't use DoCmd.TransferSpreadsheet b/c I need to
send an Access report to Excel, not a table or select query.  I would
use a query, but I need to keep the report headings intact.  The macro
that runs afterward formats the headings and columns appropriately.

Mark Boyd
I/S Supervisor
McBee Associates, Inc.


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Heenan,
Lambert
Sent: Wednesday, June 01, 2005 12:09 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Excel Macro Automation from within Access

You cannot set the excel type with OutputTo, but with
DoCmd.TransferSpreadsheet you can.

Lambert

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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Mark Boyd
Sent: Wednesday, June 01, 2005 11:53 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Excel Macro Automation from within Access


Thanks to everyone who helped with this issue.  I greatly appreciate it.
The only issue that I'm now having is the excel file seems to be created
with Excel 5.0/95.  I'm using Office 2003, and the excel file is created
with ("DoCmd.OutputTo acOutputReport, strXLName, acFormatXLS, "c:\" &
strXLName & ".xls", False").  Why does Access create the file using a
lower version of Office than what is running on the client?  Is there a
way to specify the Office version when exporting the file?

FYI - The macro automation function is below:

Function ExcelMacro(ByVal strFileName As String) On Error GoTo
Err_ExcelMacro
    Dim xlApp         As Excel.Application
    Dim xlWkb         As Excel.Workbook
    
    If fIsAppRunning("Excel") Then
        Set xlApp = GetObject(, "Excel.Application")
    Else
        Set xlApp = CreateObject("Excel.Application")
    End If
       
    xlApp.Application.Visible = True
    Set xlWkb = xlApp.Workbooks.Open(strFileName, 0)
    
    'run Excel macro code here
    '...
    '...
    'end macro code

Exit_ExcelMacro:
On Error Resume Next
    
    Set xlWkb = Nothing
    Set xlApp = Nothing
    Exit Function

Err_ExcelMacro:
    Select Case Err
        Case 0      'insert Errors you wish to ignore here
            Resume Next
        Case Else   'All other errors will trap
            MsgBox Err.Number & " - " & Err.Description, vbCritical,
"Error"
            Resume Exit_ExcelMacro
    End Select
End Function

Thanks again,
Mark Boyd
I/S Supervisor
McBee Associates, Inc.


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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gustav Brock
Sent: Thursday, May 26, 2005 5:22 AM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Excel Macro Automation from within Access

Hi Mark

Here is how (as I learned from Mr. Colby). 
It works very reliably:

Function RunExcelMacros( _
  ByVal strFileName As String, _
  ParamArray avarMacros()) As Boolean

Debug.Print "xl ini", Time
  
  On Error GoTo Err_RunExcelMacros

  Static xlApp      As Excel.Application
  Dim xlWkb         As Excel.Workbook
  
  Dim varMacro      As Variant
  Dim booSuccess    As Boolean
  Dim booTerminate  As Boolean

  If Len(strFileName) = 0 Then
    ' Excel shall be closed.
    booTerminate = True
  End If

  If xlApp Is Nothing Then
    If booTerminate = False Then
      Set xlApp = New Excel.Application
    End If
  ElseIf booTerminate = True Then
    xlApp.Quit
    Set xlApp = Nothing
  End If
  
  If booTerminate = False Then
    Set xlWkb = xlApp.Workbooks.Open(FileName:=strFileName,
UpdateLinks:=0, ReadOnly:=True)
  
    ' Make Excel visible (for troubleshooting only) or not.
    xlApp.Visible = False 'True
    
    For Each varMacro In avarMacros()
      If Not Len(varMacro) = 0 Then
  Debug.Print "xl run", Time, varMacro
        booSuccess = xlApp.Run(varMacro)
      End If
    Next varMacro
  Else
    booSuccess = True
  End If
  
  RunExcelMacros = booSuccess

Exit_RunExcelMacros:

  On Error Resume Next
    
  If booTerminate = False Then
    xlWkb.Close SaveChanges:=False
    Set xlWkb = Nothing
  End If
  
Debug.Print "xl end", Time
  Exit Function

Err_RunExcelMacros:
  Select Case Err
    Case 0      'insert Errors you wish to ignore here
      Resume Next
    Case Else   'All other errors will trap
      Beep
      MsgBox "Error: " & Err & ". " & Err.Description, vbCritical +
vbOKOnly, "Error, macro " & varMacro
      Resume Exit_RunExcelMacros
  End Select

End Function

/gustav

>>> MarkBoyd at McBeeAssociates.com 05/25 11:28 pm >>>
I have a need to run Excel macro code from within Access VBA. Basically,
the code logic flows as follows: 1. Export Access report as a new Excel
file (DoCmd.OutputTo acOutputReport, strXLName, acFormatXLS, , True) 2.
Run Excel macro (from within Access VBA) to format the Excel file
accordingly.
 
Does anyone have any sample code and/or resources related to this logic?
Any help is greatly appreciated.
 
Thanks,
Mark Boyd
I/S Supervisor
McBee Associates, Inc.

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From darsant at gmail.com  Wed Jun  1 13:45:08 2005
From: darsant at gmail.com (Darsant Silverstring)
Date: Wed, 1 Jun 2005 13:45:08 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Excel Macro Automation from within Access
In-Reply-To: <974F830FE464C14E8652F95E24DA663C043F6E@mail03.Mcbassoc.com>
References: <974F830FE464C14E8652F95E24DA663C043F6E@mail03.Mcbassoc.com>
Message-ID: <53c8e05a05060111452d4b8d5@mail.gmail.com>

On 6/1/05, Mark Boyd <MarkBoyd at mcbeeassociates.com> wrote:
> It isn't the column headings that I need to preserve, but the data in
> the Report Header section, such as titles, sub-titles, etc.
> 
> Mark Boyd
> I/S Supervisor
> McBee Associates, Inc.

Well, you could take the query that the report is feeding from, and
pipe the data through VBA code to export it to excel.

Err, well, it'd be multiple recordsets depending on what you wanted to
format, but you could use do while loops on each recordset to output
the appropriate heading, then output the data, then total the data,
then move onto the next recordset.

With VBA code linking it to excel you can do whatever formatting you
want, but you're going to have to more softcode the output and modify
the macro that you created to work with the Access interface.

In other words, instead of outputting from report format to excel, you
can output from the module itself. More work but allows you 100%
accessability and formating options vs having to correct the
auto-formatting done by report-->excel procedure.

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-Albert Einstein


From MarkBoyd at McBeeAssociates.com  Wed Jun  1 14:10:15 2005
From: MarkBoyd at McBeeAssociates.com (Mark Boyd)
Date: Wed, 1 Jun 2005 15:10:15 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Excel Macro Automation from within Access
Message-ID: <974F830FE464C14E8652F95E24DA663C043F72@mail03.Mcbassoc.com>

Thanks Darsant.  This option seems feasible, but sounds like a lot of
coding to get it to work by tomorrow.  
I'll have to use a band-aid until I can look into your approach when I
have more time.

Thanks,
Mark Boyd
I/S Supervisor
McBee Associates, Inc.


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Darsant
Silverstring
Sent: Wednesday, June 01, 2005 2:45 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Excel Macro Automation from within Access

On 6/1/05, Mark Boyd <MarkBoyd at mcbeeassociates.com> wrote:
> It isn't the column headings that I need to preserve, but the data in 
> the Report Header section, such as titles, sub-titles, etc.
> 
> Mark Boyd
> I/S Supervisor
> McBee Associates, Inc.

Well, you could take the query that the report is feeding from, and pipe
the data through VBA code to export it to excel.

Err, well, it'd be multiple recordsets depending on what you wanted to
format, but you could use do while loops on each recordset to output the
appropriate heading, then output the data, then total the data, then
move onto the next recordset.

With VBA code linking it to excel you can do whatever formatting you
want, but you're going to have to more softcode the output and modify
the macro that you created to work with the Access interface.

In other words, instead of outputting from report format to excel, you
can output from the module itself. More work but allows you 100%
accessability and formating options vs having to correct the
auto-formatting done by report-->excel procedure.

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From Jim.Hale at FleetPride.com  Wed Jun  1 14:40:18 2005
From: Jim.Hale at FleetPride.com (Hale, Jim)
Date: Wed, 1 Jun 2005 14:40:18 -0500 
Subject: [AccessD] Excel Macro Automation from within Access
Message-ID: <6A6AA9DF57E4F046BDA1E273BDDB677233761D@corp-es01.fleetpride.com>

Are you saving the file using code? Check out Excel's SaveAs method. It
allows a fileformat parameter. I think xlWorkbookNormal is the correct one.

Jim Hale

-----Original Message-----
From: Mark Boyd [mailto:MarkBoyd at mcbeeassociates.com]
Sent: Wednesday, June 01, 2005 10:53 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Excel Macro Automation from within Access


Thanks to everyone who helped with this issue.  I greatly appreciate it.
The only issue that I'm now having is the excel file seems to be created
with Excel 5.0/95.  I'm using Office 2003, and the excel file is created
with ("DoCmd.OutputTo acOutputReport, strXLName, acFormatXLS, "c:\" &
strXLName & ".xls", False").  Why does Access create the file using a
lower version of Office than what is running on the client?  Is there a
way to specify the Office version when exporting the file?

FYI - The macro automation function is below:

Function ExcelMacro(ByVal strFileName As String)
On Error GoTo Err_ExcelMacro
    Dim xlApp         As Excel.Application
    Dim xlWkb         As Excel.Workbook
    
    If fIsAppRunning("Excel") Then
        Set xlApp = GetObject(, "Excel.Application")
    Else
        Set xlApp = CreateObject("Excel.Application")
    End If
       
    xlApp.Application.Visible = True
    Set xlWkb = xlApp.Workbooks.Open(strFileName, 0)
    
    'run Excel macro code here
    '...
    '...
    'end macro code

Exit_ExcelMacro:
On Error Resume Next
    
    Set xlWkb = Nothing
    Set xlApp = Nothing
    Exit Function

Err_ExcelMacro:
    Select Case Err
        Case 0      'insert Errors you wish to ignore here
            Resume Next
        Case Else   'All other errors will trap
            MsgBox Err.Number & " - " & Err.Description, vbCritical,
"Error"
            Resume Exit_ExcelMacro
    End Select
End Function

Thanks again,
Mark Boyd
I/S Supervisor
McBee Associates, Inc.


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From MarkBoyd at McBeeAssociates.com  Wed Jun  1 17:21:27 2005
From: MarkBoyd at McBeeAssociates.com (Mark Boyd)
Date: Wed, 1 Jun 2005 18:21:27 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Excel Macro Automation from within Access
Message-ID: <974F830FE464C14E8652F95E24DA663C043F78@mail03.Mcbassoc.com>

Thanks Jim, this is pointing me in the right direction.

The export process is as follows:
1. Export report to Excel
2. Format report w/ macro
3. Save formatting changes
4. Attach file to email message

When using the SaveAs method, I'm prompted to overwrite the existing
excel file (the one just formatted).  Am I missing something in regard
to the properties of the SaveAs method, that will allow me to save the
existing, formatted file?  If I select Yes to overwrite the existing
file, all of the macro formats are lost.


Mark Boyd
I/S Supervisor
McBee Associates, Inc.


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Hale, Jim
Sent: Wednesday, June 01, 2005 3:40 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Excel Macro Automation from within Access

Are you saving the file using code? Check out Excel's SaveAs method. It
allows a fileformat parameter. I think xlWorkbookNormal is the correct
one.

Jim Hale

-----Original Message-----
From: Mark Boyd [mailto:MarkBoyd at mcbeeassociates.com]
Sent: Wednesday, June 01, 2005 10:53 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Excel Macro Automation from within Access


Thanks to everyone who helped with this issue.  I greatly appreciate it.
The only issue that I'm now having is the excel file seems to be created
with Excel 5.0/95.  I'm using Office 2003, and the excel file is created
with ("DoCmd.OutputTo acOutputReport, strXLName, acFormatXLS, "c:\" &
strXLName & ".xls", False").  Why does Access create the file using a
lower version of Office than what is running on the client?  Is there a
way to specify the Office version when exporting the file?

FYI - The macro automation function is below:

Function ExcelMacro(ByVal strFileName As String) On Error GoTo
Err_ExcelMacro
    Dim xlApp         As Excel.Application
    Dim xlWkb         As Excel.Workbook
    
    If fIsAppRunning("Excel") Then
        Set xlApp = GetObject(, "Excel.Application")
    Else
        Set xlApp = CreateObject("Excel.Application")
    End If
       
    xlApp.Application.Visible = True
    Set xlWkb = xlApp.Workbooks.Open(strFileName, 0)
    
    'run Excel macro code here
    '...
    '...
    'end macro code

Exit_ExcelMacro:
On Error Resume Next
    
    Set xlWkb = Nothing
    Set xlApp = Nothing
    Exit Function

Err_ExcelMacro:
    Select Case Err
        Case 0      'insert Errors you wish to ignore here
            Resume Next
        Case Else   'All other errors will trap
            MsgBox Err.Number & " - " & Err.Description, vbCritical,
"Error"
            Resume Exit_ExcelMacro
    End Select
End Function

Thanks again,
Mark Boyd
I/S Supervisor
McBee Associates, Inc.


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From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com  Wed Jun  1 17:29:23 2005
From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (John W. Colby)
Date: Wed, 01 Jun 2005 18:29:23 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Any MapPoint programmers out there?
Message-ID: <002901c566f9$5c6c79f0$6c7aa8c0@ColbyM6805>

I'm getting ready to do some pretty serious MapPoint stuff and wondered if
anyone else out there is doing MapPoint?

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From DWUTKA at marlow.com  Wed Jun  1 17:42:17 2005
From: DWUTKA at marlow.com (DWUTKA at marlow.com)
Date: Wed, 1 Jun 2005 17:42:17 -0500 
Subject: [AccessD] Any MapPoint programmers out there?
Message-ID: <123701F54509D9119A4F00D0B747349016D61C@main2.marlow.com>

Mike Mattys does Mappoint.

Drew

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Sent: Wednesday, June 01, 2005 5:29 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] Any MapPoint programmers out there?


I'm getting ready to do some pretty serious MapPoint stuff and wondered if
anyone else out there is doing MapPoint?

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From fhtapia at gmail.com  Wed Jun  1 19:46:48 2005
From: fhtapia at gmail.com (Francisco Tapia)
Date: Wed, 1 Jun 2005 17:46:48 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Error Loading Project?
Message-ID: <b874372a0506011746414bbda8@mail.gmail.com>

Recently I've been plauged by this error:

I have 2 Access ADP's , the primary is the dev copy and I write in
this copy all my development code, once compiled, and tested I
"EXPORT" the new form or modified form to the Production .adp copy 
this file used to be on the network, but due to the more recent
network errors that I was plauged w/ I decided to simply create a
folder on my pc called "build" and export to that folder instead,
everything had been working great, and in fact each copy compiles w/o
errors... but if I export from the dev on drive C to the build on
drive C I end up w/ an error on the build copy as "Error Loading
Project, disk or network error, continue loading?" if you click ok I
find that the module is empty.  If I then (while in the build copy),
IMPORT the same form, then I get a new Form1 classic import, I delete
the corrupted form and rename Form1 to Form and all is well again...
why can I not export anymore?


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From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com  Wed Jun  1 19:56:44 2005
From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (John W. Colby)
Date: Wed, 01 Jun 2005 20:56:44 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Error Loading Project?
In-Reply-To: <b874372a0506011746414bbda8@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <002c01c5670d$f64a08d0$6c7aa8c0@ColbyM6805>

Do you happen to have 2K and XP on the same machine?

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[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Francisco Tapia
Sent: Wednesday, June 01, 2005 8:47 PM
To: access-l at peach.ease.lsoft.com; Access Developers discussion and problem
solving
Subject: [AccessD] Error Loading Project?


Recently I've been plauged by this error:

I have 2 Access ADP's , the primary is the dev copy and I write in this copy
all my development code, once compiled, and tested I "EXPORT" the new form
or modified form to the Production .adp copy 
this file used to be on the network, but due to the more recent network
errors that I was plauged w/ I decided to simply create a folder on my pc
called "build" and export to that folder instead, everything had been
working great, and in fact each copy compiles w/o errors... but if I export
from the dev on drive C to the build on drive C I end up w/ an error on the
build copy as "Error Loading Project, disk or network error, continue
loading?" if you click ok I find that the module is empty.  If I then (while
in the build copy), IMPORT the same form, then I get a new Form1 classic
import, I delete the corrupted form and rename Form1 to Form and all is well
again... why can I not export anymore?


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From mcaro at bigpond.net.au  Wed Jun  1 21:17:41 2005
From: mcaro at bigpond.net.au (Martin Caro)
Date: Thu, 2 Jun 2005 12:17:41 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] Changing Criteria
Message-ID: <006901c56719$419def80$0100000a@MITSERVER>

Hi Folks

Is it possible to do the following:

I have a query where one of the fields references a text box containing a Filter Code to pick up the required selection criteria for the query. It works fine for Case 1 to 6 but what is the syntax to make Case 7 and 8 work?

Private Sub HotelFilter_AfterUpdate()
    Select Case HotelFilter
        Case Is = 1
            FilterCode = "FH"
        Case Is = 2
            FilterCode = "FHI"
        Case Is = 3
            FilterCode = "LH"
        Case Is = 4
            FilterCode = "B"
        Case Is = 5
            FilterCode = "L"
        Case Is = 6
            FilterCode = "E"
        Case Is = 7
            FilterCode =      Display only those records that do not have a code ie Code is Null
        Case Is = 8
            FilterCode =      Display all records ie no filter
       End Select
    Me.Refresh


From bchacc at san.rr.com  Wed Jun  1 22:16:35 2005
From: bchacc at san.rr.com (Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software)
Date: Wed, 1 Jun 2005 20:16:35 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Changing Criteria
References: <006901c56719$419def80$0100000a@MITSERVER>
Message-ID: <043b01c56721$7b889ee0$6501a8c0@HAL9004>

Martin:

I think case 7 would be IsNull.  You can try it.  Case 8 would be 
Me.Filter="": Me.FilterOn=False.  I think.

Rocky

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From: "Martin Caro" <mcaro at bigpond.net.au>
To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving" 
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Sent: Wednesday, June 01, 2005 7:17 PM
Subject: [AccessD] Changing Criteria


Hi Folks

Is it possible to do the following:

I have a query where one of the fields references a text box containing a 
Filter Code to pick up the required selection criteria for the query. It 
works fine for Case 1 to 6 but what is the syntax to make Case 7 and 8 work?

Private Sub HotelFilter_AfterUpdate()
    Select Case HotelFilter
        Case Is = 1
            FilterCode = "FH"
        Case Is = 2
            FilterCode = "FHI"
        Case Is = 3
            FilterCode = "LH"
        Case Is = 4
            FilterCode = "B"
        Case Is = 5
            FilterCode = "L"
        Case Is = 6
            FilterCode = "E"
        Case Is = 7
            FilterCode =      Display only those records that do not have a 
code ie Code is Null
        Case Is = 8
            FilterCode =      Display all records ie no filter
       End Select
    Me.Refresh
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From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com  Wed Jun  1 22:41:31 2005
From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (John W. Colby)
Date: Wed, 01 Jun 2005 23:41:31 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Height and width of usable screen
Message-ID: <002d01c56724$fa56c000$6c7aa8c0@ColbyM6805>

How do you determine the height and width (in pixels) of the USABLE area of
the screen, i.e. the screen dimensions minus any toolbars?

I am working with MapPoint and am able to instantiate it, and display it,
but I am now trying to set it to display full screen and I don't find any
"maximize" method, rather it seems you have to set the top/left/height/width
(in pixels).

0/0/1280/7xx sets it correctly for my laptop, but the 7XX is the issue.  If
I make it too large it simply places some part of the application off the
screen.  Not good.

John W. Colby
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From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com  Wed Jun  1 22:48:32 2005
From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (John W. Colby)
Date: Wed, 01 Jun 2005 23:48:32 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Height and width of usable screen
In-Reply-To: <002d01c56724$fa56c000$6c7aa8c0@ColbyM6805>
Message-ID: <002e01c56725$f28bb460$6c7aa8c0@ColbyM6805>

Never mind, I found it (WindowState).

John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com 

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-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of John W. Colby
Sent: Wednesday, June 01, 2005 11:42 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] Height and width of usable screen


How do you determine the height and width (in pixels) of the USABLE area of
the screen, i.e. the screen dimensions minus any toolbars?

I am working with MapPoint and am able to instantiate it, and display it,
but I am now trying to set it to display full screen and I don't find any
"maximize" method, rather it seems you have to set the top/left/height/width
(in pixels).

0/0/1280/7xx sets it correctly for my laptop, but the 7XX is the issue.  If
I make it too large it simply places some part of the application off the
screen.  Not good.

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From jmhecht at earthlink.net  Wed Jun  1 23:37:44 2005
From: jmhecht at earthlink.net (Joe Hecht)
Date: Wed, 1 Jun 2005 21:37:44 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Invitations DB Design Ideas
Message-ID: <001f01c5672c$d20f09b0$6401a8c0@laptop1>

So my niece got engaged and I figure I better get my DB going soon.
 
Right now the database is one table,
 
These are typed in to readable and not names with spaces etc:
 
I rec num
1st Person first Name
1st person last name
2cd person first name
2cd person last name
Address fields
Adults Invitation Represents
Children Invitation represents
Contact phone
Memo
Source (Bride/Groom/Family/friend?)
Invited Y/N
Coming y/n
Gift received Y/N
Note Sent Y/N
 
 
 
 Looking for ideas to normalize this
 
OK wise guys, I know no wedding is normal but...
 
 
 
Joe Hecht
Los Angeles CA
 


From bchacc at san.rr.com  Thu Jun  2 00:08:27 2005
From: bchacc at san.rr.com (Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software)
Date: Wed, 1 Jun 2005 22:08:27 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Invitations DB Design Ideas
References: <001f01c5672c$d20f09b0$6401a8c0@laptop1>
Message-ID: <048601c56731$1c5d6b70$6501a8c0@HAL9004>

Will there only be two persons' names at most?  If not, then you can put the 
names in a name table with a foreign key to the Invitation table's primary 
key.

Source could also be a table with a FK in the Invitation pointing to the 
source table's PK.

Seems like maybe more trouble than it's worth for this app, though.

Rocky

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Joe Hecht" <jmhecht at earthlink.net>
To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'" 
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Wednesday, June 01, 2005 9:37 PM
Subject: [AccessD] Invitations DB Design Ideas


> So my niece got engaged and I figure I better get my DB going soon.
>
> Right now the database is one table,
>
> These are typed in to readable and not names with spaces etc:
>
> I rec num
> 1st Person first Name
> 1st person last name
> 2cd person first name
> 2cd person last name
> Address fields
> Adults Invitation Represents
> Children Invitation represents
> Contact phone
> Memo
> Source (Bride/Groom/Family/friend?)
> Invited Y/N
> Coming y/n
> Gift received Y/N
> Note Sent Y/N
>
>
>
> Looking for ideas to normalize this
>
> OK wise guys, I know no wedding is normal but...
>
>
>
> Joe Hecht
> Los Angeles CA
>
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From adtp at touchtelindia.net  Thu Jun  2 00:56:35 2005
From: adtp at touchtelindia.net (A.D.Tejpal)
Date: Thu, 2 Jun 2005 11:26:35 +0530
Subject: [AccessD] Changing Criteria
References: <006901c56719$419def80$0100000a@MITSERVER>
Message-ID: <00d601c56738$027cccd0$aa1865cb@winxp>

Martin,

    You wish to incorporate criteria options in a query (to be picked up from a form) for -
    (a) Null values only
    (b) All values (including Nulls)
    These two involve non-string expressions if direct comparison with existing field in the table is attempted. The situation does not directly afford an appropriate string that could straightaway be used in the manner applicable to case statements 1 to 6.

    For getting the desired results, following course of action is suggested. HotelCode is the name of text type field in table T_HotelCode.

    (a) Select query may be modified as shown below. It would  mean that the value of FilterCode on form F_HotelFilter will get tested against  Nz([HotelCode],"") in the query.
    (b) Code in form's module may be modified as shown below. It provides for -
        Case Is = 7
            FilterCode = ""
        Case Is = 8
            FilterCode = "ALL"

Best wishes,
A.D.Tejpal
--------------

Select Query
====================================
SELECT T_HotelCode.* 
FROM T_HotelCode 
WHERE (((Nz([HotelCode],""))=IIf([Forms]![F_HotelFilter]![FilterCode]="ALL",Nz([HotelCode],""),[Forms]![F_HotelFilter]![FilterCode])));
====================================

Code in Form's module
====================================
Private Sub HotelFilter_AfterUpdate()
    Select Case HotelFilter
        Case Is = 1
            FilterCode = "FH"
        Case Is = 2
            FilterCode = "FHI"
        Case Is = 3
            FilterCode = "LH"
        Case Is = 4
            FilterCode = "B"
        Case Is = 5
            FilterCode = "L"
        Case Is = 6
            FilterCode = "E"
        Case Is = 7
            FilterCode = ""
        Case Is = 8
            FilterCode = "ALL"
       End Select
    Me.Refresh
End Sub
====================================

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Martin Caro 
  To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving 
  Sent: Thursday, June 02, 2005 07:47
  Subject: [AccessD] Changing Criteria


  Hi Folks

  Is it possible to do the following:

  I have a query where one of the fields references a text box containing a Filter Code to pick up the required selection criteria for the query. It works fine for Case 1 to 6 but what is the syntax to make Case 7 and 8 work?

  Private Sub HotelFilter_AfterUpdate()
      Select Case HotelFilter
          Case Is = 1
              FilterCode = "FH"
          Case Is = 2
              FilterCode = "FHI"
          Case Is = 3
              FilterCode = "LH"
          Case Is = 4
              FilterCode = "B"
          Case Is = 5
              FilterCode = "L"
          Case Is = 6
              FilterCode = "E"
          Case Is = 7
              FilterCode =      Display only those records that do not have a code ie Code is Null
          Case Is = 8
              FilterCode =      Display all records ie no filter
         End Select
      Me.Refresh



From jmhecht at earthlink.net  Thu Jun  2 01:24:49 2005
From: jmhecht at earthlink.net (Joe Hecht)
Date: Wed, 1 Jun 2005 23:24:49 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Invitations DB Design Ideas
In-Reply-To: <048601c56731$1c5d6b70$6501a8c0@HAL9004>
Message-ID: <002701c5673b$c854a8d0$6401a8c0@laptop1>

Rocky,

I can not see three names on an invitation.

Worst case would be Mr. Rocky Smolin and Ms. Mrs. Smolin.

Maybe and kids?

Joe Hecht
Los Angeles CA

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Rocky Smolin -
Beach Access Software
Sent: Wednesday, June 01, 2005 10:08 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Invitations DB Design Ideas

Will there only be two persons' names at most?  If not, then you can put the

names in a name table with a foreign key to the Invitation table's primary 
key.

Source could also be a table with a FK in the Invitation pointing to the 
source table's PK.

Seems like maybe more trouble than it's worth for this app, though.

Rocky

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Joe Hecht" <jmhecht at earthlink.net>
To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'" 
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Wednesday, June 01, 2005 9:37 PM
Subject: [AccessD] Invitations DB Design Ideas


> So my niece got engaged and I figure I better get my DB going soon.
>
> Right now the database is one table,
>
> These are typed in to readable and not names with spaces etc:
>
> I rec num
> 1st Person first Name
> 1st person last name
> 2cd person first name
> 2cd person last name
> Address fields
> Adults Invitation Represents
> Children Invitation represents
> Contact phone
> Memo
> Source (Bride/Groom/Family/friend?)
> Invited Y/N
> Coming y/n
> Gift received Y/N
> Note Sent Y/N
>
>
>
> Looking for ideas to normalize this
>
> OK wise guys, I know no wedding is normal but...
>
>
>
> Joe Hecht
> Los Angeles CA
>
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From paul.hartland at isharp.co.uk  Thu Jun  2 02:00:09 2005
From: paul.hartland at isharp.co.uk (Paul Hartland (ISHARP))
Date: Thu, 2 Jun 2005 08:00:09 +0100
Subject: [AccessD] Any MapPoint programmers out there?
In-Reply-To: <002901c566f9$5c6c79f0$6c7aa8c0@ColbyM6805>
Message-ID: <!~!UENERkVCMDkAAQACAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAC4AAAAAAAAAclrM129q6km1GlSfRwF8CgEAFKerAD79REu7GTojEo2iDgAAAAddkgAAEAAAAE1D+HSZVqRBtiNI3uOyvA4BAAAAAA==@isharp.co.uk>

I am also getting ready to use MapPoint with VB6 and SQL Server 2000, mainly
want to use it to calculate distances that our employees are from our
clients, but may also want to be able to create maps/directions etc....

So if anyone knows any good sites or can help me with getting started I
would be grateful....

Thanks in advance for any help on this....

Paul Hartland
 

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of John W. Colby
Sent: 01 June 2005 23:29
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] Any MapPoint programmers out there?

I'm getting ready to do some pretty serious MapPoint stuff and wondered if
anyone else out there is doing MapPoint?

John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com 

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From michael.mattys at verizon.net  Thu Jun  2 04:45:16 2005
From: michael.mattys at verizon.net (Michael R Mattys)
Date: Thu, 02 Jun 2005 05:45:16 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Any MapPoint programmers out there?
References: <!~!UENERkVCMDkAAQACAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAC4AAAAAAAAAclrM129q6km1GlSfRwF8CgEAFKerAD79REu7GTojEo2iDgAAAAddkgAAEAAAAE1D+HSZVqRBtiNI3uOyvA4BAAAAAA==@isharp.co.uk>
Message-ID: <040001c56757$c9d0d7d0$0202a8c0@default>

I have been programming in MapPoint for over 2 years
using both Access and VB6. I have several apps created
that I sell, including a full routing and scheduling app.
Haven't had time to update my website since I started.

My efforts were started at Eric Frost's www.mp2kmag.com,
where you'll find articles and discussion.

I frequently answer questions on Newsgroups:
Microsoft.Public.MapPoint and Microsoft.Public.Street-Trips.
----

Michael R. Mattys
Mattys MapLib for Microsoft MapPoint
http://www.mattysconsulting.com



----- Original Message -----
From: "Paul Hartland (ISHARP)" <paul.hartland at isharp.co.uk>
To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'"
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Thursday, June 02, 2005 3:00 AM
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Any MapPoint programmers out there?


> I am also getting ready to use MapPoint with VB6 and SQL Server 2000,
mainly
> want to use it to calculate distances that our employees are from our
> clients, but may also want to be able to create maps/directions etc....
>
> So if anyone knows any good sites or can help me with getting started I
> would be grateful....
>
> Thanks in advance for any help on this....
>
> Paul Hartland
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of John W. Colby
> Sent: 01 June 2005 23:29
> To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
> Subject: [AccessD] Any MapPoint programmers out there?
>
> I'm getting ready to do some pretty serious MapPoint stuff and wondered if
> anyone else out there is doing MapPoint?
>
> John W. Colby
> www.ColbyConsulting.com
>
> Contribute your unused CPU cycles to a good cause:
> http://folding.stanford.edu/
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From paul.hartland at isharp.co.uk  Thu Jun  2 05:05:57 2005
From: paul.hartland at isharp.co.uk (Paul Hartland (ISHARP))
Date: Thu, 2 Jun 2005 11:05:57 +0100
Subject: [AccessD] Any MapPoint programmers out there?
In-Reply-To: <040001c56757$c9d0d7d0$0202a8c0@default>
Message-ID: <!~!UENERkVCMDkAAQACAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAC4AAAAAAAAAclrM129q6km1GlSfRwF8CgEAFKerAD79REu7GTojEo2iDgAAAAddkgAAEAAAAPBuRs/Rcq5GsHYgXMgK6bkBAAAAAA==@isharp.co.uk>

Initially all I want to be able to do is pass a clients postcode and several
+ employee postcodes into MapPoint and return the miles from client for
every employee.... 

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Michael R Mattys
Sent: 02 June 2005 10:45
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Any MapPoint programmers out there?

I have been programming in MapPoint for over 2 years using both Access and
VB6. I have several apps created that I sell, including a full routing and
scheduling app.
Haven't had time to update my website since I started.

My efforts were started at Eric Frost's www.mp2kmag.com, where you'll find
articles and discussion.

I frequently answer questions on Newsgroups:
Microsoft.Public.MapPoint and Microsoft.Public.Street-Trips.
----

Michael R. Mattys
Mattys MapLib for Microsoft MapPoint
http://www.mattysconsulting.com



----- Original Message -----
From: "Paul Hartland (ISHARP)" <paul.hartland at isharp.co.uk>
To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'"
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Thursday, June 02, 2005 3:00 AM
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Any MapPoint programmers out there?


> I am also getting ready to use MapPoint with VB6 and SQL Server 2000,
mainly
> want to use it to calculate distances that our employees are from our 
> clients, but may also want to be able to create maps/directions etc....
>
> So if anyone knows any good sites or can help me with getting started 
> I would be grateful....
>
> Thanks in advance for any help on this....
>
> Paul Hartland
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of John W. 
> Colby
> Sent: 01 June 2005 23:29
> To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
> Subject: [AccessD] Any MapPoint programmers out there?
>
> I'm getting ready to do some pretty serious MapPoint stuff and 
> wondered if anyone else out there is doing MapPoint?
>
> John W. Colby
> www.ColbyConsulting.com
>
> Contribute your unused CPU cycles to a good cause:
> http://folding.stanford.edu/
>
>
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From pedro at plex.nl  Thu Jun  2 12:10:16 2005
From: pedro at plex.nl (pedro at plex.nl)
Date: Thu, 02 Jun 2005 12:10:16 (MET DST)
Subject: [AccessD] Any ArcGis vba programmers out there?
Message-ID: <200506021010.j52AAGGB021861@mailhostC.plex.net>

Hello Group,

John W. Colby question about mappoint triggered me to ask the same about ArcGis.

I have a script in Avenue that i need to have in VBA for ArcGis. Who can help me with this.

Pedro Janssen




From michael.mattys at verizon.net  Thu Jun  2 05:24:48 2005
From: michael.mattys at verizon.net (Michael R Mattys)
Date: Thu, 02 Jun 2005 06:24:48 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Any MapPoint programmers out there?
References: <!~!UENERkVCMDkAAQACAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAC4AAAAAAAAAclrM129q6km1GlSfRwF8CgEAFKerAD79REu7GTojEo2iDgAAAAddkgAAEAAAAPBuRs/Rcq5GsHYgXMgK6bkBAAAAAA==@isharp.co.uk>
Message-ID: <042401c5675d$506a2440$0202a8c0@default>

Since you've said 'postcodes', I'll assume you're in the UK
(Not that it makes a difference at the moment.)
You'll be looking to use the .DistanceTo function

Try here:
http://groups-beta.google.com/groups?hl=en&q=mappoint+distanceto

----

Michael R. Mattys
Mattys MapLib for Microsoft MapPoint
http://www.mattysconsulting.com



----- Original Message -----
From: "Paul Hartland (ISHARP)" <paul.hartland at isharp.co.uk>
To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'"
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Thursday, June 02, 2005 6:05 AM
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Any MapPoint programmers out there?


> Initially all I want to be able to do is pass a clients postcode and
several
> + employee postcodes into MapPoint and return the miles from client for
> every employee....
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Michael R
Mattys
> Sent: 02 June 2005 10:45
> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] Any MapPoint programmers out there?
>
> I have been programming in MapPoint for over 2 years using both Access and
> VB6. I have several apps created that I sell, including a full routing and
> scheduling app.
> Haven't had time to update my website since I started.
>
> My efforts were started at Eric Frost's www.mp2kmag.com, where you'll find
> articles and discussion.
>
> I frequently answer questions on Newsgroups:
> Microsoft.Public.MapPoint and Microsoft.Public.Street-Trips.
> ----
>
> Michael R. Mattys
> Mattys MapLib for Microsoft MapPoint
> http://www.mattysconsulting.com
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Paul Hartland (ISHARP)" <paul.hartland at isharp.co.uk>
> To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'"
> <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
> Sent: Thursday, June 02, 2005 3:00 AM
> Subject: RE: [AccessD] Any MapPoint programmers out there?
>
>
> > I am also getting ready to use MapPoint with VB6 and SQL Server 2000,
> mainly
> > want to use it to calculate distances that our employees are from our
> > clients, but may also want to be able to create maps/directions etc....
> >
> > So if anyone knows any good sites or can help me with getting started
> > I would be grateful....
> >
> > Thanks in advance for any help on this....
> >
> > Paul Hartland
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> > [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of John W.
> > Colby
> > Sent: 01 June 2005 23:29
> > To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
> > Subject: [AccessD] Any MapPoint programmers out there?
> >
> > I'm getting ready to do some pretty serious MapPoint stuff and
> > wondered if anyone else out there is doing MapPoint?
> >
> > John W. Colby
> > www.ColbyConsulting.com
> >
> > Contribute your unused CPU cycles to a good cause:
> > http://folding.stanford.edu/
> >
> >
> > --
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From paul.hartland at isharp.co.uk  Thu Jun  2 05:31:34 2005
From: paul.hartland at isharp.co.uk (Paul Hartland (ISHARP))
Date: Thu, 2 Jun 2005 11:31:34 +0100
Subject: [AccessD] Any MapPoint programmers out there?
In-Reply-To: <042401c5675d$506a2440$0202a8c0@default>
Message-ID: <!~!UENERkVCMDkAAQACAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAC4AAAAAAAAAclrM129q6km1GlSfRwF8CgEAFKerAD79REu7GTojEo2iDgAAAAddkgAAEAAAAKuFljGximZKinnoSIyhyV8BAAAAAA==@isharp.co.uk>

Thanks, I haven't actually installed our evaluation edition yet but plan on
doing so today or tomorrow so I will look into that... 

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Michael R Mattys
Sent: 02 June 2005 11:25
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Any MapPoint programmers out there?

Since you've said 'postcodes', I'll assume you're in the UK (Not that it
makes a difference at the moment.) You'll be looking to use the .DistanceTo
function

Try here:
http://groups-beta.google.com/groups?hl=en&q=mappoint+distanceto

----

Michael R. Mattys
Mattys MapLib for Microsoft MapPoint
http://www.mattysconsulting.com



----- Original Message -----
From: "Paul Hartland (ISHARP)" <paul.hartland at isharp.co.uk>
To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'"
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Thursday, June 02, 2005 6:05 AM
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Any MapPoint programmers out there?


> Initially all I want to be able to do is pass a clients postcode and
several
> + employee postcodes into MapPoint and return the miles from client 
> + for
> every employee....
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Michael R
Mattys
> Sent: 02 June 2005 10:45
> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] Any MapPoint programmers out there?
>
> I have been programming in MapPoint for over 2 years using both Access 
> and VB6. I have several apps created that I sell, including a full 
> routing and scheduling app.
> Haven't had time to update my website since I started.
>
> My efforts were started at Eric Frost's www.mp2kmag.com, where you'll 
> find articles and discussion.
>
> I frequently answer questions on Newsgroups:
> Microsoft.Public.MapPoint and Microsoft.Public.Street-Trips.
> ----
>
> Michael R. Mattys
> Mattys MapLib for Microsoft MapPoint
> http://www.mattysconsulting.com
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Paul Hartland (ISHARP)" <paul.hartland at isharp.co.uk>
> To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'"
> <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
> Sent: Thursday, June 02, 2005 3:00 AM
> Subject: RE: [AccessD] Any MapPoint programmers out there?
>
>
> > I am also getting ready to use MapPoint with VB6 and SQL Server 
> > 2000,
> mainly
> > want to use it to calculate distances that our employees are from 
> > our clients, but may also want to be able to create maps/directions
etc....
> >
> > So if anyone knows any good sites or can help me with getting 
> > started I would be grateful....
> >
> > Thanks in advance for any help on this....
> >
> > Paul Hartland
> >
> >
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> > Subject: [AccessD] Any MapPoint programmers out there?
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> > I'm getting ready to do some pretty serious MapPoint stuff and 
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> >
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From mcaro at bigpond.net.au  Thu Jun  2 05:59:43 2005
From: mcaro at bigpond.net.au (Martin Caro)
Date: Thu, 2 Jun 2005 20:59:43 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] Changing Criteria
References: <006901c56719$419def80$0100000a@MITSERVER>
	<00d601c56738$027cccd0$aa1865cb@winxp>
Message-ID: <008301c56762$2e9a0970$0100000a@MITSERVER>

Thanks A.D. & Rocky for your replies

Managed to get ADs code working although needed to make a slight mod to the
WHERE line first

WHERE
(((Nz([HotelCode],""))=IIf([Forms]![F_HotelFilter]![FilterCode]="ALL",Nz([Ho
telCode],""),[Forms]![F_HotelFilter]![FilterCode])));

Modified to:

WHERE
(((Nz([HotelCode]))=IIf([Forms]![F_HotelFilter]![FilterCode]="ALL",Nz([Hotel
Code]),[Forms]![F_HotelFilter]![FilterCode])));

Thanks again

Martin

----- Original Message -----
From: "A.D.Tejpal" <adtp at touchtelindia.net>
To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving"
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Thursday, June 02, 2005 3:56 PM
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Changing Criteria


Martin,

    You wish to incorporate criteria options in a query (to be picked up
from a form) for -
    (a) Null values only
    (b) All values (including Nulls)
    These two involve non-string expressions if direct comparison with
existing field in the table is attempted. The situation does not directly
afford an appropriate string that could straightaway be used in the manner
applicable to case statements 1 to 6.

    For getting the desired results, following course of action is
suggested. HotelCode is the name of text type field in table T_HotelCode.

    (a) Select query may be modified as shown below. It would  mean that the
value of FilterCode on form F_HotelFilter will get tested against
Nz([HotelCode],"") in the query.
    (b) Code in form's module may be modified as shown below. It provides
for -
        Case Is = 7
            FilterCode = ""
        Case Is = 8
            FilterCode = "ALL"

Best wishes,
A.D.Tejpal
--------------

Select Query
====================================
SELECT T_HotelCode.*
FROM T_HotelCode
WHERE
(((Nz([HotelCode],""))=IIf([Forms]![F_HotelFilter]![FilterCode]="ALL",Nz([Ho
telCode],""),[Forms]![F_HotelFilter]![FilterCode])));
====================================

Code in Form's module
====================================
Private Sub HotelFilter_AfterUpdate()
    Select Case HotelFilter
        Case Is = 1
            FilterCode = "FH"
        Case Is = 2
            FilterCode = "FHI"
        Case Is = 3
            FilterCode = "LH"
        Case Is = 4
            FilterCode = "B"
        Case Is = 5
            FilterCode = "L"
        Case Is = 6
            FilterCode = "E"
        Case Is = 7
            FilterCode = ""
        Case Is = 8
            FilterCode = "ALL"
       End Select
    Me.Refresh
End Sub
====================================

  ----- Original Message -----
  From: Martin Caro
  To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
  Sent: Thursday, June 02, 2005 07:47
  Subject: [AccessD] Changing Criteria


  Hi Folks

  Is it possible to do the following:

  I have a query where one of the fields references a text box containing a
Filter Code to pick up the required selection criteria for the query. It
works fine for Case 1 to 6 but what is the syntax to make Case 7 and 8 work?

  Private Sub HotelFilter_AfterUpdate()
      Select Case HotelFilter
          Case Is = 1
              FilterCode = "FH"
          Case Is = 2
              FilterCode = "FHI"
          Case Is = 3
              FilterCode = "LH"
          Case Is = 4
              FilterCode = "B"
          Case Is = 5
              FilterCode = "L"
          Case Is = 6
              FilterCode = "E"
          Case Is = 7
              FilterCode =      Display only those records that do not have
a code ie Code is Null
          Case Is = 8
              FilterCode =      Display all records ie no filter
         End Select
      Me.Refresh

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From accessd666 at yahoo.com  Thu Jun  2 06:13:55 2005
From: accessd666 at yahoo.com (Sad Der)
Date: Thu, 2 Jun 2005 04:13:55 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [AccessD] Check if array is initialized
Message-ID: <20050602111355.24662.qmail@web31603.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Hi group,

one of our programmers came to me with a question
regarding an error when the UBOUND() of an array was
retrieved. The error occures when an array has been
DIMmed, without specifing the size, but not REDIMmed.

In the sample below I've created a simple example.
When the function is called a byref array is to be
filled with values. However the line:
  for lngCntr = 0 to UBOUND(r_alngMyArray)
Will always fill since it hasn't been ReDimmed.

I suggested a workaround:
1 - use the function IsInitialized() and check if the
function returns -1. If so the array isnt't
intitialized.

However, is there an official way of handling this
error/problem/occurence?

Thnx

Regards,

SD
--------------------
EXAMPLE
--------------------

Main
  Dim alngValues() as long
  Call RetrieveSomething(alngValues())
End Main

Public Function RetrieveSomething(byref
r_alngMyArray() as Long)
dim lngCntr as long 

for lngCntr = 0 to UBOUND(r_alngMyArray)
  Redim PRESERVE r_alngMyArray(lngCntr)
  r_alngMyArray(lngCntr) = "THIS DOES NOT WORK!"
next lngCntr

End Function

------------------
WORKAROUND
------------------
Function IsInitialized(byref r_alngInitialized) as
Long
 On Error Goto error_not_initialized
 
  IsInitialized = UBOUND(r_alngInitialized)

Exit Function
Goto error_not_initialized
  IsInitialized = -1
End Function


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From Gustav at cactus.dk  Thu Jun  2 07:13:28 2005
From: Gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Thu, 02 Jun 2005 14:13:28 +0200
Subject: [AccessD] Check if array is initialized
Message-ID: <s29f1429.051@cactus.dk>

Hi SD

We use this function to check that:

Public Function IsReDimmed(ByRef varArrayToCheck) As Boolean

' Checks a dynamic array to see if it has been ReDim'med.
' This is to prevent errors before applying LBound() or UBound().
'
' Returns False if varArrayToCheck is dynamic and
' never has been ReDim'med or just has been erased.
'
' 2001-08-11. Cactus Data ApS, CPH. Gustav Brock.

  Dim booIsReDimmed As Boolean
  
  On Error GoTo Err_IsReDimmed
   
  If IsArray(varArrayToCheck) = True Then
    ' Check if varArrayToCheck is ReDim'med.
    ' LBound() will fail if varArrayToCheck not has been ReDim'med.
    booIsReDimmed = LBound(varArrayToCheck) Imp True
    ' No error raised; varArrayToCheck is ReDim'med.
  Else
    ' varArrayToCheck is not an array.
  End If
  
  IsReDimmed = booIsReDimmed
  
Exit_IsReDimmed:
  Exit Function
  
Err_IsReDimmed:
  Select Case Err
    Case 9
      ' Subscript (array index) out of range.
      ' varArrayToCheck is dynamic and not ReDim'med.
    Case Else
      ' Other error.
  End Select
    ' Exit function returning False.
  Resume Exit_IsReDimmed

End Function

/gustav


>>> accessd666 at yahoo.com 06/02 1:13 pm >>>
Hi group,

one of our programmers came to me with a question
regarding an error when the UBOUND() of an array was
retrieved. The error occures when an array has been
DIMmed, without specifing the size, but not REDIMmed.

In the sample below I've created a simple example.
When the function is called a byref array is to be
filled with values. However the line:
  for lngCntr = 0 to UBOUND(r_alngMyArray)
Will always fill since it hasn't been ReDimmed.

I suggested a workaround:
1 - use the function IsInitialized() and check if the
function returns -1. If so the array isnt't
intitialized.

However, is there an official way of handling this
error/problem/occurence?

Thnx

Regards,

SD
--------------------
EXAMPLE
--------------------

Main
  Dim alngValues() as long
  Call RetrieveSomething(alngValues())
End Main

Public Function RetrieveSomething(byref
r_alngMyArray() as Long)
dim lngCntr as long 

for lngCntr = 0 to UBOUND(r_alngMyArray)
  Redim PRESERVE r_alngMyArray(lngCntr)
  r_alngMyArray(lngCntr) = "THIS DOES NOT WORK!"
next lngCntr

End Function

------------------
WORKAROUND
------------------
Function IsInitialized(byref r_alngInitialized) as
Long
 On Error Goto error_not_initialized
 
  IsInitialized = UBOUND(r_alngInitialized)

Exit Function
Goto error_not_initialized
  IsInitialized = -1
End Function



From adtp at touchtelindia.net  Thu Jun  2 07:21:37 2005
From: adtp at touchtelindia.net (A.D.Tejpal)
Date: Thu, 2 Jun 2005 17:51:37 +0530
Subject: [AccessD] Changing Criteria
References: <006901c56719$419def80$0100000a@MITSERVER><00d601c56738$027cccd0
	$aa1865cb@winxp> <008301c56762$2e9a0970$0100000a@MITSERVER>
Message-ID: <006901c5676d$bed36b70$c91865cb@winxp>

    You are most welcome Martin! 

    Two clarifications -

    (a) It is seen that your existing code uses the following syntax for Case statement
        Case Is = 1  ' (and so on)
        This can be replaced by
        Case 1    ' (and so on)

    (b) Is it correct that the only modification carried out in Where clause of the suggested SQL statement is by way of omitting the second argument in Nz() function, replacing Nz([HotelCode],"") by  Nz([HotelCode]). Was there any compulsion to do so? Was there any problem with the original one? Although the second argument is optional, and if not supplied, zero length string is assumed as the default value, it is considered a desirable practice to provide this argument explicitly.

Best wishes,
A.D.Tejpal
--------------

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Martin Caro 
  To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving 
  Sent: Thursday, June 02, 2005 16:29
  Subject: Re: [AccessD] Changing Criteria


  Thanks A.D. & Rocky for your replies

  Managed to get ADs code working although needed to make a slight mod to the
  WHERE line first

  WHERE
  (((Nz([HotelCode],""))=IIf([Forms]![F_HotelFilter]![FilterCode]="ALL",Nz([Ho
  telCode],""),[Forms]![F_HotelFilter]![FilterCode])));

  Modified to:

  WHERE
  (((Nz([HotelCode]))=IIf([Forms]![F_HotelFilter]![FilterCode]="ALL",Nz([Hotel
  Code]),[Forms]![F_HotelFilter]![FilterCode])));

  Thanks again

  Martin

  ----- Original Message -----
  From: "A.D.Tejpal" <adtp at touchtelindia.net>
  To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving"
  <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
  Sent: Thursday, June 02, 2005 3:56 PM
  Subject: Re: [AccessD] Changing Criteria


  Martin,

      You wish to incorporate criteria options in a query (to be picked up
  from a form) for -
      (a) Null values only
      (b) All values (including Nulls)
      These two involve non-string expressions if direct comparison with
  existing field in the table is attempted. The situation does not directly
  afford an appropriate string that could straightaway be used in the manner
  applicable to case statements 1 to 6.

      For getting the desired results, following course of action is
  suggested. HotelCode is the name of text type field in table T_HotelCode.

      (a) Select query may be modified as shown below. It would  mean that the
  value of FilterCode on form F_HotelFilter will get tested against
  Nz([HotelCode],"") in the query.
      (b) Code in form's module may be modified as shown below. It provides
  for -
          Case Is = 7
              FilterCode = ""
          Case Is = 8
              FilterCode = "ALL"

  Best wishes,
  A.D.Tejpal
  --------------

  Select Query
  ====================================
  SELECT T_HotelCode.*
  FROM T_HotelCode
  WHERE
  (((Nz([HotelCode],""))=IIf([Forms]![F_HotelFilter]![FilterCode]="ALL",Nz([Ho
  telCode],""),[Forms]![F_HotelFilter]![FilterCode])));
  ====================================

  Code in Form's module
  ====================================
  Private Sub HotelFilter_AfterUpdate()
      Select Case HotelFilter
          Case Is = 1
              FilterCode = "FH"
          Case Is = 2
              FilterCode = "FHI"
          Case Is = 3
              FilterCode = "LH"
          Case Is = 4
              FilterCode = "B"
          Case Is = 5
              FilterCode = "L"
          Case Is = 6
              FilterCode = "E"
          Case Is = 7
              FilterCode = ""
          Case Is = 8
              FilterCode = "ALL"
         End Select
      Me.Refresh
  End Sub
  ====================================

    ----- Original Message -----
    From: Martin Caro
    To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
    Sent: Thursday, June 02, 2005 07:47
    Subject: [AccessD] Changing Criteria


    Hi Folks

    Is it possible to do the following:

    I have a query where one of the fields references a text box containing a
  Filter Code to pick up the required selection criteria for the query. It
  works fine for Case 1 to 6 but what is the syntax to make Case 7 and 8 work?

    Private Sub HotelFilter_AfterUpdate()
        Select Case HotelFilter
            Case Is = 1
                FilterCode = "FH"
            Case Is = 2
                FilterCode = "FHI"
            Case Is = 3
                FilterCode = "LH"
            Case Is = 4
                FilterCode = "B"
            Case Is = 5
                FilterCode = "L"
            Case Is = 6
                FilterCode = "E"
            Case Is = 7
                FilterCode =      Display only those records that do not have
  a code ie Code is Null
            Case Is = 8
                FilterCode =      Display all records ie no filter
           End Select
        Me.Refresh


From accessd666 at yahoo.com  Thu Jun  2 07:50:51 2005
From: accessd666 at yahoo.com (Sad Der)
Date: Thu, 2 Jun 2005 05:50:51 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [AccessD] Check if array is initialized
In-Reply-To: <s29f1429.051@cactus.dk>
Message-ID: <20050602125051.75972.qmail@web31605.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Thnx Gustav. 
It's more or less the same. You've got some extra
checks (is it an array). 
I'll send it through...and the developers can make the
decission. HAHA and I can shoot them down if their
decission doesn't work HAHA. I'm getting DILBERT
visions :-)

thnx again.

SD

--- Gustav Brock <Gustav at cactus.dk> wrote:

> Hi SD
> 
> We use this function to check that:
> 
> Public Function IsReDimmed(ByRef varArrayToCheck) As
> Boolean
> 
> ' Checks a dynamic array to see if it has been
> ReDim'med.
> ' This is to prevent errors before applying LBound()
> or UBound().
> '
> ' Returns False if varArrayToCheck is dynamic and
> ' never has been ReDim'med or just has been erased.
> '
> ' 2001-08-11. Cactus Data ApS, CPH. Gustav Brock.
> 
>   Dim booIsReDimmed As Boolean
>   
>   On Error GoTo Err_IsReDimmed
>    
>   If IsArray(varArrayToCheck) = True Then
>     ' Check if varArrayToCheck is ReDim'med.
>     ' LBound() will fail if varArrayToCheck not has
> been ReDim'med.
>     booIsReDimmed = LBound(varArrayToCheck) Imp True
>     ' No error raised; varArrayToCheck is ReDim'med.
>   Else
>     ' varArrayToCheck is not an array.
>   End If
>   
>   IsReDimmed = booIsReDimmed
>   
> Exit_IsReDimmed:
>   Exit Function
>   
> Err_IsReDimmed:
>   Select Case Err
>     Case 9
>       ' Subscript (array index) out of range.
>       ' varArrayToCheck is dynamic and not
> ReDim'med.
>     Case Else
>       ' Other error.
>   End Select
>     ' Exit function returning False.
>   Resume Exit_IsReDimmed
> 
> End Function
> 
> /gustav
> 
> 
> >>> accessd666 at yahoo.com 06/02 1:13 pm >>>
> Hi group,
> 
> one of our programmers came to me with a question
> regarding an error when the UBOUND() of an array was
> retrieved. The error occures when an array has been
> DIMmed, without specifing the size, but not
> REDIMmed.
> 
> In the sample below I've created a simple example.
> When the function is called a byref array is to be
> filled with values. However the line:
>   for lngCntr = 0 to UBOUND(r_alngMyArray)
> Will always fill since it hasn't been ReDimmed.
> 
> I suggested a workaround:
> 1 - use the function IsInitialized() and check if
> the
> function returns -1. If so the array isnt't
> intitialized.
> 
> However, is there an official way of handling this
> error/problem/occurence?
> 
> Thnx
> 
> Regards,
> 
> SD
> --------------------
> EXAMPLE
> --------------------
> 
> Main
>   Dim alngValues() as long
>   Call RetrieveSomething(alngValues())
> End Main
> 
> Public Function RetrieveSomething(byref
> r_alngMyArray() as Long)
> dim lngCntr as long 
> 
> for lngCntr = 0 to UBOUND(r_alngMyArray)
>   Redim PRESERVE r_alngMyArray(lngCntr)
>   r_alngMyArray(lngCntr) = "THIS DOES NOT WORK!"
> next lngCntr
> 
> End Function
> 
> ------------------
> WORKAROUND
> ------------------
> Function IsInitialized(byref r_alngInitialized) as
> Long
>  On Error Goto error_not_initialized
>  
>   IsInitialized = UBOUND(r_alngInitialized)
> 
> Exit Function
> Goto error_not_initialized
>   IsInitialized = -1
> End Function
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From bheid at appdevgrp.com  Thu Jun  2 08:05:34 2005
From: bheid at appdevgrp.com (Bobby Heid)
Date: Thu, 2 Jun 2005 09:05:34 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] SELECT IN using pw protected db.
In-Reply-To: <916187228923D311A6FE00A0CC3FAA30BC6A5A@ADGSERVER>
Message-ID: <916187228923D311A6FE00A0CC3FAA30ABEBCB@ADGSERVER>

Thanks to all for your input.  I had to get this stuff out fast so I ended
up just opening the external database with a database variable and then just
querying against that database.

I will probably go back and revisit this.

Sorry for the delay in getting back to you all, I took a few days off.

Bobby

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of MartyConnelly
Sent: Friday, May 27, 2005 1:59 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] SELECT IN using pw protected db.


hope this helps,

Set rs = cn.Execute("SELECT * FROM [ODBC;DSN={DSN Name};uid={User 
Name};pwd ={Password};database={Name of Database}].{Table in Database} 
WHERE FALSE")

One of these syntaxes may work

select * from customer in [ 'C:\Program Files\Microsoft 
Office\Office\Samples\Copy of Northwind.mdb';UID="Admin";PWD=""]

select * from customers in 'C:\Program Files\Microsoft 
Office\Office\Samples\Copy of Northwind.mdb'[uid="a"];

Bobby Heid wrote:

>Hey,
>
>I've done this before but can not seem to remember how at the moment.
>
>When I use:
>SELECT * 
>	FROM Version IN ';PWD=somepassword;DATABASE=D:\Wrap\WrapMrg\Merge
>5.04\Hudson.mdb;'
>
>I get a "Disk or Network error" error message.
>
>What am I doing wrong?
>
>Thanks,
>Bobby
>
>  
>

-- 
Marty Connelly
Victoria, B.C.
Canada



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From bchacc at san.rr.com  Thu Jun  2 08:09:53 2005
From: bchacc at san.rr.com (Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software)
Date: Thu, 2 Jun 2005 06:09:53 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Invitations DB Design Ideas
References: <002701c5673b$c854a8d0$6401a8c0@laptop1>
Message-ID: <006201c56774$5dc5ab70$6901a8c0@HAL9004>

Joe:

Actually, although it's absolutely no fun, it would seem that since it could 
be done with one flat file that a spreadsheet would be more quicker and 
easier if all you want to do is manage the data.

Rocky

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From: "Joe Hecht" <jmhecht at earthlink.net>
To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'" 
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Wednesday, June 01, 2005 11:24 PM
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Invitations DB Design Ideas


> Rocky,
>
> I can not see three names on an invitation.
>
> Worst case would be Mr. Rocky Smolin and Ms. Mrs. Smolin.
>
> Maybe and kids?
>
> Joe Hecht
> Los Angeles CA
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Rocky Smolin -
> Beach Access Software
> Sent: Wednesday, June 01, 2005 10:08 PM
> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] Invitations DB Design Ideas
>
> Will there only be two persons' names at most?  If not, then you can put 
> the
>
> names in a name table with a foreign key to the Invitation table's primary
> key.
>
> Source could also be a table with a FK in the Invitation pointing to the
> source table's PK.
>
> Seems like maybe more trouble than it's worth for this app, though.
>
> Rocky
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Joe Hecht" <jmhecht at earthlink.net>
> To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'"
> <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, June 01, 2005 9:37 PM
> Subject: [AccessD] Invitations DB Design Ideas
>
>
>> So my niece got engaged and I figure I better get my DB going soon.
>>
>> Right now the database is one table,
>>
>> These are typed in to readable and not names with spaces etc:
>>
>> I rec num
>> 1st Person first Name
>> 1st person last name
>> 2cd person first name
>> 2cd person last name
>> Address fields
>> Adults Invitation Represents
>> Children Invitation represents
>> Contact phone
>> Memo
>> Source (Bride/Groom/Family/friend?)
>> Invited Y/N
>> Coming y/n
>> Gift received Y/N
>> Note Sent Y/N
>>
>>
>>
>> Looking for ideas to normalize this
>>
>> OK wise guys, I know no wedding is normal but...
>>
>>
>>
>> Joe Hecht
>> Los Angeles CA
>>
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From john at winhaven.net  Thu Jun  2 08:16:09 2005
From: john at winhaven.net (John Bartow)
Date: Thu, 2 Jun 2005 08:16:09 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Any ArcGis vba programmers out there?
In-Reply-To: <200506021010.j52AAGGB021861@mailhostC.plex.net>
Message-ID: <200506021316.j52DGAIJ222210@pimout3-ext.prodigy.net>

Pedro,
I can't help you directly.

There are usually ESRI User Groups in most areas where their products have a
user base of any size. However, I would start with the ESRI Regional staff.
I have found that they are very helpful in this type of endeavor.

Good luck
John B.


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Sent: Thursday, June 02, 2005 12:10 PM
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Subject: [AccessD] Any ArcGis vba programmers out there?

Hello Group,

John W. Colby question about mappoint triggered me to ask the same about
ArcGis.

I have a script in Avenue that i need to have in VBA for ArcGis. Who can
help me with this.

Pedro Janssen


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From JRojas at tnco-inc.com  Thu Jun  2 08:19:01 2005
From: JRojas at tnco-inc.com (Joe Rojas)
Date: Thu, 2 Jun 2005 09:19:01 -0400 
Subject: [AccessD] Check if array is initialized
Message-ID: <0CC84C9461AE6445AD5A602001C41C4B05A302@mercury.tnco-inc.com>

What I have done is dim the variable and use the IsArray() function is see
if it's an array. If not then I know I the array is not initialized.

Using your example:

Main
  Dim alngValues
  Call RetrieveSomething(alngValues)
End Main

Public Function RetrieveSomething(byref r_alngMyArray() as Long)
dim lngCntr as long

If Not IsArray(r_alngMyArray) Then
	ReDim r_alngMyArray(0)
End If

for lngCntr = 0 to UBOUND(r_alngMyArray)
  Redim PRESERVE r_alngMyArray(lngCntr)
  r_alngMyArray(lngCntr) = "THIS DOES NOT WORK!"
next lngCntr

End Function



Thanks,
Joe Rojas
IT Manager
TNCO, Inc.
781-447-6661 x7506
jrojas at tnco-inc.com

-----Original Message-----
From: Sad Der [mailto:accessd666 at yahoo.com]
Sent: Thursday, June 02, 2005 7:14 AM
To: Acces User Group
Subject: [AccessD] Check if array is initialized

Hi group,

one of our programmers came to me with a question
regarding an error when the UBOUND() of an array was
retrieved. The error occures when an array has been
DIMmed, without specifing the size, but not REDIMmed.

In the sample below I've created a simple example.
When the function is called a byref array is to be
filled with values. However the line:
  for lngCntr = 0 to UBOUND(r_alngMyArray)
Will always fill since it hasn't been ReDimmed.

I suggested a workaround:
1 - use the function IsInitialized() and check if the
function returns -1. If so the array isnt't
intitialized.

However, is there an official way of handling this
error/problem/occurence?

Thnx

Regards,

SD
--------------------
EXAMPLE
--------------------

Main
  Dim alngValues() as long
  Call RetrieveSomething(alngValues())
End Main

Public Function RetrieveSomething(byref
r_alngMyArray() as Long)
dim lngCntr as long

for lngCntr = 0 to UBOUND(r_alngMyArray)
  Redim PRESERVE r_alngMyArray(lngCntr)
  r_alngMyArray(lngCntr) = "THIS DOES NOT WORK!"
next lngCntr

End Function

------------------
WORKAROUND
------------------
Function IsInitialized(byref r_alngInitialized) as
Long
 On Error Goto error_not_initialized

  IsInitialized = UBOUND(r_alngInitialized)

Exit Function
Goto error_not_initialized
  IsInitialized = -1
End Function


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From Jim.Hale at FleetPride.com  Thu Jun  2 09:09:44 2005
From: Jim.Hale at FleetPride.com (Hale, Jim)
Date: Thu, 2 Jun 2005 09:09:44 -0500 
Subject: [AccessD] Excel Macro Automation from within Access
Message-ID: <6A6AA9DF57E4F046BDA1E273BDDB6772337629@corp-es01.fleetpride.com>

I think the sequence you are looking for is similar to this:

Sub rpt_to_excel()
Dim appExcel As Excel.Application, strpathname As String
Dim strpathnew As String, strReport As String

strpathname = "C:\test.xls"
strpathnew = "C:\test2.xls"
strReport = "rptInvsummary"
DoCmd.OutputTo acOutputReport, strReport, acFormatXLS, strpathname

 Set appExcel = New Excel.Application
 
 'format your report
    With appExcel
        .Workbooks.Open strpathname, 0
        .Visible = True 'just to watch the sheet
        .Range("A1:G1").Select
        .Selection.Font.Bold = True
        .Selection.Font.Name = "Arial"
        .Selection.Font.Size = 12
        .ActiveWorkbook.SaveAs Filename:=strpathnew, FileFormat:=xlNormal
    End With
     appExcel.Quit
    Set appExcel = Nothing
End Sub

This opens the file you output and saves it as a current version workbook
under a new name. 

As you debug be aware of leaving orphan instances of Excel in memory. You
can tell if any exist by placing the following script in notepad and running
it:

Dim objXL
	Dim strMessage
	
	On Error Resume Next
	
	'	Try to grab a running instance of
	'	Excel...
	Set objXL = GetObject(, "Excel.Application")
	
	'	What did we find?..
	If Not TypeName(objXL) = "Empty" Then
		strMessage = "Excel Running."
	Else
		strMessage = "Excel Not Running."
	End If
	
	'	Feedback to user...
	MsgBox strMessage, vbInformation, "Excel Status"
	
	'	Make the Excel instance visible 
	'	if we found one
	if strMessage = "Excel Running." then _
				objXL.Visible = true 

-----Original Message-----
From: Mark Boyd [mailto:MarkBoyd at mcbeeassociates.com]
Sent: Wednesday, June 01, 2005 5:21 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Excel Macro Automation from within Access


Thanks Jim, this is pointing me in the right direction.

The export process is as follows:
1. Export report to Excel
2. Format report w/ macro
3. Save formatting changes
4. Attach file to email message

When using the SaveAs method, I'm prompted to overwrite the existing
excel file (the one just formatted).  Am I missing something in regard
to the properties of the SaveAs method, that will allow me to save the
existing, formatted file?  If I select Yes to overwrite the existing
file, all of the macro formats are lost.


Mark Boyd
I/S Supervisor
McBee Associates, Inc.


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[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Hale, Jim
Sent: Wednesday, June 01, 2005 3:40 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Excel Macro Automation from within Access

Are you saving the file using code? Check out Excel's SaveAs method. It
allows a fileformat parameter. I think xlWorkbookNormal is the correct
one.

Jim Hale


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From adtp at touchtelindia.net  Thu Jun  2 09:34:32 2005
From: adtp at touchtelindia.net (A.D.Tejpal)
Date: Thu, 2 Jun 2005 20:04:32 +0530
Subject: [AccessD] Check if array is initialized
References: <20050602111355.24662.qmail@web31603.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <005601c56780$75aaf4a0$1c1865cb@winxp>

SD,

    Function Fn_IsInitialized() given below is another simplified  way of getting the desired information. It will return true only if the argument is an array which has been re-dimmed. The following sub-routine illustrates the use of this function. If statement (A) is enabled, the immediate window will show True, otherwise False.

Sub P_Test_IfArrayInitialized()
    Dim StrArray() As String
    ReDim StrArray(5)     ' (A)
    Debug.Print Fn_IsInitialized(StrArray)
End Sub

Best wishes,
A.D.Tejpal
--------------

========================================
Function Fn_IsInitialized(ByVal varArray _
                                        As Variant) As Boolean
    Dim Rtv As Variant    
    On Error Resume Next
    Fn_IsInitialized = Not IsError(Rtv = UBound(varArray))
End Function
========================================

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Sad Der 
  To: Acces User Group 
  Sent: Thursday, June 02, 2005 16:43
  Subject: [AccessD] Check if array is initialized


  Hi group,

  one of our programmers came to me with a question
  regarding an error when the UBOUND() of an array was
  retrieved. The error occures when an array has been
  DIMmed, without specifing the size, but not REDIMmed.

  In the sample below I've created a simple example.
  When the function is called a byref array is to be
  filled with values. However the line:
    for lngCntr = 0 to UBOUND(r_alngMyArray)
  Will always fill since it hasn't been ReDimmed.

  I suggested a workaround:
  1 - use the function IsInitialized() and check if the
  function returns -1. If so the array isnt't
  intitialized.

  However, is there an official way of handling this
  error/problem/occurence?

  Thnx

  Regards,

  SD
  --------------------
  EXAMPLE
  --------------------

  Main
    Dim alngValues() as long
    Call RetrieveSomething(alngValues())
  End Main

  Public Function RetrieveSomething(byref
  r_alngMyArray() as Long)
  dim lngCntr as long 

  for lngCntr = 0 to UBOUND(r_alngMyArray)
    Redim PRESERVE r_alngMyArray(lngCntr)
    r_alngMyArray(lngCntr) = "THIS DOES NOT WORK!"
  next lngCntr

  End Function

  ------------------
  WORKAROUND
  ------------------
  Function IsInitialized(byref r_alngInitialized) as
  Long
   On Error Goto error_not_initialized
   
    IsInitialized = UBOUND(r_alngInitialized)

  Exit Function
  Goto error_not_initialized
    IsInitialized = -1
  End Function



From jmhecht at earthlink.net  Thu Jun  2 10:28:39 2005
From: jmhecht at earthlink.net (Joe Hecht)
Date: Thu, 2 Jun 2005 08:28:39 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Invitations DB Design Ideas
In-Reply-To: <048601c56731$1c5d6b70$6501a8c0@HAL9004>
Message-ID: <000801c56787$c0e339d0$6401a8c0@laptop1>

Need something to do to keep my hand in

Joe Hecht
Los Angeles CA

<snip>
Seems like maybe more trouble than it's worth for this app, though.

Rocky

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From cfoust at infostatsystems.com  Thu Jun  2 10:42:09 2005
From: cfoust at infostatsystems.com (Charlotte Foust)
Date: Thu, 2 Jun 2005 08:42:09 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Error Loading Project?
Message-ID: <E61FC1D4B1918244905B113C680BEA86873A69@infoserver01.infostat.local>

If you have 2k and XP on your either machine, make sure 2k is patched to
SP3 before you do any exporting.  OXP installed a VBE6.dll that breaks
the version in 2k, causing that blasted network connection error to be
thrown erroneously.  Take a look at this MSKB article:
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;304548

Charlotte Foust


-----Original Message-----
From: Francisco Tapia [mailto:fhtapia at gmail.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, June 01, 2005 5:47 PM
To: access-l at peach.ease.lsoft.com; Access Developers discussion and
problem solving
Subject: [AccessD] Error Loading Project?


Recently I've been plauged by this error:

I have 2 Access ADP's , the primary is the dev copy and I write in this
copy all my development code, once compiled, and tested I "EXPORT" the
new form or modified form to the Production .adp copy 
this file used to be on the network, but due to the more recent network
errors that I was plauged w/ I decided to simply create a folder on my
pc called "build" and export to that folder instead, everything had been
working great, and in fact each copy compiles w/o errors... but if I
export from the dev on drive C to the build on drive C I end up w/ an
error on the build copy as "Error Loading Project, disk or network
error, continue loading?" if you click ok I find that the module is
empty.  If I then (while in the build copy), IMPORT the same form, then
I get a new Form1 classic import, I delete the corrupted form and rename
Form1 to Form and all is well again... why can I not export anymore?


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From fhtapia at gmail.com  Thu Jun  2 10:56:03 2005
From: fhtapia at gmail.com (Francisco Tapia)
Date: Thu, 2 Jun 2005 08:56:03 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Error Loading Project?
In-Reply-To: <002c01c5670d$f64a08d0$6c7aa8c0@ColbyM6805>
References: <b874372a0506011746414bbda8@mail.gmail.com>
	<002c01c5670d$f64a08d0$6c7aa8c0@ColbyM6805>
Message-ID: <b874372a05060208561e25dca5@mail.gmail.com>

Not at this time, I Just ordered Access 2003, currenlty I have Office
97 & 2000 w/ Outlook  2003.

On 6/1/05, John W. Colby <jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com> wrote:
> Do you happen to have 2K and XP on the same machine?

> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Francisco Tapia
> Sent: Wednesday, June 01, 2005 8:47 PM
> To: access-l at peach.ease.lsoft.com; Access Developers discussion and problem
> solving
> Subject: [AccessD] Error Loading Project?
> 
> 
> Recently I've been plauged by this error:
> 
> I have 2 Access ADP's , the primary is the dev copy and I write in this copy
> all my development code, once compiled, and tested I "EXPORT" the new form
> or modified form to the Production .adp copy
> this file used to be on the network, but due to the more recent network
> errors that I was plauged w/ I decided to simply create a folder on my pc
> called "build" and export to that folder instead, everything had been
> working great, and in fact each copy compiles w/o errors... but if I export
> from the dev on drive C to the build on drive C I end up w/ an error on the
> build copy as "Error Loading Project, disk or network error, continue
> loading?" if you click ok I find that the module is empty.  If I then (while
> in the build copy), IMPORT the same form, then I get a new Form1 classic
> import, I delete the corrupted form and rename Form1 to Form and all is well
> again... why can I not export anymore?
> 
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From fhtapia at gmail.com  Thu Jun  2 10:56:59 2005
From: fhtapia at gmail.com (Francisco Tapia)
Date: Thu, 2 Jun 2005 08:56:59 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Error Loading Project?
In-Reply-To: <E61FC1D4B1918244905B113C680BEA86873A69@infoserver01.infostat.local>
References: <E61FC1D4B1918244905B113C680BEA86873A69@infoserver01.infostat.local>
Message-ID: <b874372a05060208562b1a3dbc@mail.gmail.com>

SP3 :O
I've only patched up to SR-1 on 2000 before... anything I should watch
out for in SP3?

On 6/2/05, Charlotte Foust <cfoust at infostatsystems.com> wrote:
> If you have 2k and XP on your either machine, make sure 2k is patched to
> SP3 before you do any exporting.  OXP installed a VBE6.dll that breaks
> the version in 2k, causing that blasted network connection error to be
> thrown erroneously.  Take a look at this MSKB article:
> http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;304548
> 
> Charlotte Foust
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Francisco Tapia [mailto:fhtapia at gmail.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, June 01, 2005 5:47 PM
> To: access-l at peach.ease.lsoft.com; Access Developers discussion and
> problem solving
> Subject: [AccessD] Error Loading Project?
> 
> 
> Recently I've been plauged by this error:
> 
> I have 2 Access ADP's , the primary is the dev copy and I write in this
> copy all my development code, once compiled, and tested I "EXPORT" the
> new form or modified form to the Production .adp copy
> this file used to be on the network, but due to the more recent network
> errors that I was plauged w/ I decided to simply create a folder on my
> pc called "build" and export to that folder instead, everything had been
> working great, and in fact each copy compiles w/o errors... but if I
> export from the dev on drive C to the build on drive C I end up w/ an
> error on the build copy as "Error Loading Project, disk or network
> error, continue loading?" if you click ok I find that the module is
> empty.  If I then (while in the build copy), IMPORT the same form, then
> I get a new Form1 classic import, I delete the corrupted form and rename
> Form1 to Form and all is well again... why can I not export anymore?
> 
> 
> --
> -Francisco
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From fhtapia at gmail.com  Thu Jun  2 12:19:59 2005
From: fhtapia at gmail.com (Francisco Tapia)
Date: Thu, 2 Jun 2005 10:19:59 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Error Loading Project?
In-Reply-To: <b874372a05060208562b1a3dbc@mail.gmail.com>
References: <E61FC1D4B1918244905B113C680BEA86873A69@infoserver01.infostat.local>
	<b874372a05060208562b1a3dbc@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <b874372a05060210196d767ae5@mail.gmail.com>

I was skeptical because I've been on SR1a for sooo long now, but I did
upgrade to SP3 and everything is now working as expected :).  Just
hope this does not contribute to some additional bug :S

On 6/2/05, Francisco Tapia <fhtapia at gmail.com> wrote:
> SP3 :O
> I've only patched up to SR-1 on 2000 before... anything I should watch
> out for in SP3?
> 
> On 6/2/05, Charlotte Foust <cfoust at infostatsystems.com> wrote:
> > If you have 2k and XP on your either machine, make sure 2k is patched to
> > SP3 before you do any exporting.  OXP installed a VBE6.dll that breaks
> > the version in 2k, causing that blasted network connection error to be
> > thrown erroneously.  Take a look at this MSKB article:
> > http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;304548
> >
> > Charlotte Foust
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Francisco Tapia [mailto:fhtapia at gmail.com]
> > Sent: Wednesday, June 01, 2005 5:47 PM
> > To: access-l at peach.ease.lsoft.com; Access Developers discussion and
> > problem solving
> > Subject: [AccessD] Error Loading Project?
> >
> >
> > Recently I've been plauged by this error:
> >
> > I have 2 Access ADP's , the primary is the dev copy and I write in this
> > copy all my development code, once compiled, and tested I "EXPORT" the
> > new form or modified form to the Production .adp copy
> > this file used to be on the network, but due to the more recent network
> > errors that I was plauged w/ I decided to simply create a folder on my
> > pc called "build" and export to that folder instead, everything had been
> > working great, and in fact each copy compiles w/o errors... but if I
> > export from the dev on drive C to the build on drive C I end up w/ an
> > error on the build copy as "Error Loading Project, disk or network
> > error, continue loading?" if you click ok I find that the module is
> > empty.  If I then (while in the build copy), IMPORT the same form, then
> > I get a new Form1 classic import, I delete the corrupted form and rename
> > Form1 to Form and all is well again... why can I not export anymore?
> >
> >
> > --
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From cfoust at infostatsystems.com  Thu Jun  2 13:24:39 2005
From: cfoust at infostatsystems.com (Charlotte Foust)
Date: Thu, 2 Jun 2005 11:24:39 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Error Loading Project?
Message-ID: <E61FC1D4B1918244905B113C680BEA86873A6A@infoserver01.infostat.local>

2003 breaks it the same way as XP.

Charlotte Foust


-----Original Message-----
From: Francisco Tapia [mailto:fhtapia at gmail.com] 
Sent: Thursday, June 02, 2005 8:56 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Error Loading Project?


Not at this time, I Just ordered Access 2003, currenlty I have Office 97
& 2000 w/ Outlook  2003.

On 6/1/05, John W. Colby <jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com> wrote:
> Do you happen to have 2K and XP on the same machine?

> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Francisco 
> Tapia
> Sent: Wednesday, June 01, 2005 8:47 PM
> To: access-l at peach.ease.lsoft.com; Access Developers discussion and
problem
> solving
> Subject: [AccessD] Error Loading Project?
> 
> 
> Recently I've been plauged by this error:
> 
> I have 2 Access ADP's , the primary is the dev copy and I write in 
> this copy all my development code, once compiled, and tested I 
> "EXPORT" the new form or modified form to the Production .adp copy 
> this file used to be on the network, but due to the more recent 
> network errors that I was plauged w/ I decided to simply create a 
> folder on my pc called "build" and export to that folder instead, 
> everything had been working great, and in fact each copy compiles w/o 
> errors... but if I export from the dev on drive C to the build on 
> drive C I end up w/ an error on the build copy as "Error Loading 
> Project, disk or network error, continue loading?" if you click ok I 
> find that the module is empty.  If I then (while in the build copy), 
> IMPORT the same form, then I get a new Form1 classic import, I delete 
> the corrupted form and rename Form1 to Form and all is well again... 
> why can I not export anymore?
> 
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From cfoust at infostatsystems.com  Thu Jun  2 13:25:45 2005
From: cfoust at infostatsystems.com (Charlotte Foust)
Date: Thu, 2 Jun 2005 11:25:45 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Error Loading Project?
Message-ID: <E61FC1D4B1918244905B113C680BEA86873A6B@infoserver01.infostat.local>

I seem to recall that it reinstitutes a bug or two cured in earlier SPs,
perhaps something to do with resetting the autonumber seed, but I don't
recall.

Charlotte Foust


-----Original Message-----
From: Francisco Tapia [mailto:fhtapia at gmail.com] 
Sent: Thursday, June 02, 2005 10:20 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Error Loading Project?


I was skeptical because I've been on SR1a for sooo long now, but I did
upgrade to SP3 and everything is now working as expected :).  Just hope
this does not contribute to some additional bug :S

On 6/2/05, Francisco Tapia <fhtapia at gmail.com> wrote:
> SP3 :O
> I've only patched up to SR-1 on 2000 before... anything I should watch

> out for in SP3?
> 
> On 6/2/05, Charlotte Foust <cfoust at infostatsystems.com> wrote:
> > If you have 2k and XP on your either machine, make sure 2k is 
> > patched to SP3 before you do any exporting.  OXP installed a 
> > VBE6.dll that breaks the version in 2k, causing that blasted network

> > connection error to be thrown erroneously.  Take a look at this MSKB

> > article: 
> > http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;304548
> >
> > Charlotte Foust
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Francisco Tapia [mailto:fhtapia at gmail.com]
> > Sent: Wednesday, June 01, 2005 5:47 PM
> > To: access-l at peach.ease.lsoft.com; Access Developers discussion and 
> > problem solving
> > Subject: [AccessD] Error Loading Project?
> >
> >
> > Recently I've been plauged by this error:
> >
> > I have 2 Access ADP's , the primary is the dev copy and I write in 
> > this copy all my development code, once compiled, and tested I 
> > "EXPORT" the new form or modified form to the Production .adp copy 
> > this file used to be on the network, but due to the more recent 
> > network errors that I was plauged w/ I decided to simply create a 
> > folder on my pc called "build" and export to that folder instead, 
> > everything had been working great, and in fact each copy compiles 
> > w/o errors... but if I export from the dev on drive C to the build 
> > on drive C I end up w/ an error on the build copy as "Error Loading 
> > Project, disk or network error, continue loading?" if you click ok I

> > find that the module is empty.  If I then (while in the build copy),

> > IMPORT the same form, then I get a new Form1 classic import, I 
> > delete the corrupted form and rename Form1 to Form and all is well 
> > again... why can I not export anymore?
> >
> >
> > --
> > -Francisco
> > http://pcthis.blogspot.com |PC news with out the jargon! 
> > http://sqlthis.blogspot.com | Tsql and More...
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> >
> 
> 
> --
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> http://sqlthis.blogspot.com | Tsql and More...
> 


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From accessd at shaw.ca  Thu Jun  2 13:32:09 2005
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Thu, 02 Jun 2005 11:32:09 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Error Loading Project?
In-Reply-To: <E61FC1D4B1918244905B113C680BEA86873A6A@infoserver01.infostat.local>
Message-ID: <0IHG00I0BZHIY6@l-daemon>

So what would be the best way to import Access into XP and 2003 without
major issues other than hand coding?

Jim 

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Charlotte Foust
Sent: Thursday, June 02, 2005 11:25 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Error Loading Project?

2003 breaks it the same way as XP.

Charlotte Foust


-----Original Message-----
From: Francisco Tapia [mailto:fhtapia at gmail.com] 
Sent: Thursday, June 02, 2005 8:56 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Error Loading Project?


Not at this time, I Just ordered Access 2003, currenlty I have Office 97
& 2000 w/ Outlook  2003.

On 6/1/05, John W. Colby <jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com> wrote:
> Do you happen to have 2K and XP on the same machine?

> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Francisco 
> Tapia
> Sent: Wednesday, June 01, 2005 8:47 PM
> To: access-l at peach.ease.lsoft.com; Access Developers discussion and
problem
> solving
> Subject: [AccessD] Error Loading Project?
> 
> 
> Recently I've been plauged by this error:
> 
> I have 2 Access ADP's , the primary is the dev copy and I write in 
> this copy all my development code, once compiled, and tested I 
> "EXPORT" the new form or modified form to the Production .adp copy 
> this file used to be on the network, but due to the more recent 
> network errors that I was plauged w/ I decided to simply create a 
> folder on my pc called "build" and export to that folder instead, 
> everything had been working great, and in fact each copy compiles w/o 
> errors... but if I export from the dev on drive C to the build on 
> drive C I end up w/ an error on the build copy as "Error Loading 
> Project, disk or network error, continue loading?" if you click ok I 
> find that the module is empty.  If I then (while in the build copy), 
> IMPORT the same form, then I get a new Form1 classic import, I delete 
> the corrupted form and rename Form1 to Form and all is well again... 
> why can I not export anymore?
> 
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From Drawbridge.Jack at ic.gc.ca  Thu Jun  2 14:00:48 2005
From: Drawbridge.Jack at ic.gc.ca (Drawbridge, Jack: #CIO - BPI)
Date: Thu, 2 Jun 2005 15:00:48 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] A2K talking to IE6 - File Save As
Message-ID: <0F3AFAE449DD4A40BED8B6C4A97ABF5B0298AAAA@MSG-MB3.icent.ic.gc.ca>

Looking for help/advice or sample code to open IE6 from code in A2K. Am interested in how to do a File| Save As Webpage, Complete.
We have a database of 60000 companies and want to put extracts of selected 100-500 companies (html and graphics etc) onto a CD for use with Offline Browser.

Can not figure out how to get to IE6 File | Save As.

I have some code to open a page with IE browser and save all the links on the page.

Any help would be appreciated.

TIA 

jack

'---- CODE to GET the Links from a given page ----
'---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
' Procedure : GetLinks
' DateTime  : 2005-06-02 14:19
' Author    :
' Purpose   : get all links from a named webpage URL
'---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
'
Sub GetLinks()

' ** need to set a reference to
' ** Microsoft Internet Controls

    Dim IeApp As InternetExplorer
    Dim sURL As String
    Dim IeDoc As Object
    Dim i As Long
    
   'Create new instance of IE
    Set IeApp = New InternetExplorer
    
    'May wish to make IeApp visible
    'apparently some things don't work
    'unless it's visible
    IeApp.Visible = False
    
    'define the page to open
    sURL = "www.diligens.com"
    
    'navigate to the page based on URL
    IeApp.Navigate sURL
   
    'Pause until the webpage is completely loaded
    Do
    Loop Until IeApp.ReadyState = READYSTATE_COMPLETE
    
    'Create instance of Document object
    Set IeDoc = IeApp.Document
  
    'Loop through the document's links collection.
    For i = 0 To IeDoc.links.Length - 1
        Debug.Print IeDoc.links(i).href
    Next i
    
    'Clean up
    Set IeApp = Nothing
    Set IeDoc = Nothing
End Sub


From cfoust at infostatsystems.com  Thu Jun  2 14:52:44 2005
From: cfoust at infostatsystems.com (Charlotte Foust)
Date: Thu, 2 Jun 2005 12:52:44 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Error Loading Project?
Message-ID: <E61FC1D4B1918244905B113C680BEA86873A6C@infoserver01.infostat.local>

They don't break in XP and 2003, only the other direction.

Charlotte Foust


-----Original Message-----
From: Jim Lawrence [mailto:accessd at shaw.ca] 
Sent: Thursday, June 02, 2005 11:32 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Error Loading Project?


So what would be the best way to import Access into XP and 2003 without
major issues other than hand coding?

Jim 

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Charlotte
Foust
Sent: Thursday, June 02, 2005 11:25 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Error Loading Project?

2003 breaks it the same way as XP.

Charlotte Foust


-----Original Message-----
From: Francisco Tapia [mailto:fhtapia at gmail.com] 
Sent: Thursday, June 02, 2005 8:56 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Error Loading Project?


Not at this time, I Just ordered Access 2003, currenlty I have Office 97
& 2000 w/ Outlook  2003.

On 6/1/05, John W. Colby <jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com> wrote:
> Do you happen to have 2K and XP on the same machine?

> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Francisco
> Tapia
> Sent: Wednesday, June 01, 2005 8:47 PM
> To: access-l at peach.ease.lsoft.com; Access Developers discussion and
problem
> solving
> Subject: [AccessD] Error Loading Project?
> 
> 
> Recently I've been plauged by this error:
> 
> I have 2 Access ADP's , the primary is the dev copy and I write in
> this copy all my development code, once compiled, and tested I 
> "EXPORT" the new form or modified form to the Production .adp copy 
> this file used to be on the network, but due to the more recent 
> network errors that I was plauged w/ I decided to simply create a 
> folder on my pc called "build" and export to that folder instead, 
> everything had been working great, and in fact each copy compiles w/o 
> errors... but if I export from the dev on drive C to the build on 
> drive C I end up w/ an error on the build copy as "Error Loading 
> Project, disk or network error, continue loading?" if you click ok I 
> find that the module is empty.  If I then (while in the build copy), 
> IMPORT the same form, then I get a new Form1 classic import, I delete 
> the corrupted form and rename Form1 to Form and all is well again... 
> why can I not export anymore?
> 
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From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com  Thu Jun  2 14:59:52 2005
From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (John W. Colby)
Date: Thu, 02 Jun 2005 15:59:52 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Error Loading Project?
In-Reply-To: <E61FC1D4B1918244905B113C680BEA86873A6C@infoserver01.infostat.local>
Message-ID: <004301c567ad$a3fbd2c0$6c7aa8c0@ColbyM6805>

Charlotte,

Why don't you give a synopsis of what the problem is and how it is
triggered.  XP provides new dll, 2K PreSP3 has wrong entry points, etc.

John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com 

Contribute your unused CPU cycles to a good cause:
http://folding.stanford.edu/

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Charlotte Foust
Sent: Thursday, June 02, 2005 3:53 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Error Loading Project?


They don't break in XP and 2003, only the other direction.

Charlotte Foust


-----Original Message-----
From: Jim Lawrence [mailto:accessd at shaw.ca] 
Sent: Thursday, June 02, 2005 11:32 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Error Loading Project?


So what would be the best way to import Access into XP and 2003 without
major issues other than hand coding?

Jim 

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Charlotte Foust
Sent: Thursday, June 02, 2005 11:25 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Error Loading Project?

2003 breaks it the same way as XP.

Charlotte Foust


-----Original Message-----
From: Francisco Tapia [mailto:fhtapia at gmail.com] 
Sent: Thursday, June 02, 2005 8:56 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Error Loading Project?


Not at this time, I Just ordered Access 2003, currenlty I have Office 97 &
2000 w/ Outlook  2003.

On 6/1/05, John W. Colby <jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com> wrote:
> Do you happen to have 2K and XP on the same machine?

> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Francisco 
> Tapia
> Sent: Wednesday, June 01, 2005 8:47 PM
> To: access-l at peach.ease.lsoft.com; Access Developers discussion and
problem
> solving
> Subject: [AccessD] Error Loading Project?
> 
> 
> Recently I've been plauged by this error:
> 
> I have 2 Access ADP's , the primary is the dev copy and I write in 
> this copy all my development code, once compiled, and tested I 
> "EXPORT" the new form or modified form to the Production .adp copy 
> this file used to be on the network, but due to the more recent 
> network errors that I was plauged w/ I decided to simply create a 
> folder on my pc called "build" and export to that folder instead, 
> everything had been working great, and in fact each copy compiles w/o 
> errors... but if I export from the dev on drive C to the build on 
> drive C I end up w/ an error on the build copy as "Error Loading 
> Project, disk or network error, continue loading?" if you click ok I 
> find that the module is empty.  If I then (while in the build copy), 
> IMPORT the same form, then I get a new Form1 classic import, I delete 
> the corrupted form and rename Form1 to Form and all is well again... 
> why can I not export anymore?
> 
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From pedro at plex.nl  Thu Jun  2 15:34:18 2005
From: pedro at plex.nl (Pedro Janssen)
Date: Thu, 2 Jun 2005 22:34:18 +0200
Subject: [AccessD] Any ArcGis vba programmers out there?
References: <200506021316.j52DGAIJ222210@pimout3-ext.prodigy.net>
Message-ID: <00be01c567b5$35f4bbe0$f4c581d5@pedro>

Hello John,

I asked with the ESRI department in the Netherlands, but they charge money
for the writing of the script.
I still can use the avenue script in ArcView3, but it would be nice to have
it in VBA.

The Workinggroup where i use this script for are all volunteers, and we
don't have the money to let the script be written in VBA.
I now don't have the time to dive into VBA for Gis applications.

Thanks for your response.

Pedro Janssen





----- Original Message -----
From: "John Bartow" <john at winhaven.net>
To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'"
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Thursday, June 02, 2005 3:16 PM
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Any ArcGis vba programmers out there?


> Pedro,
> I can't help you directly.
>
> There are usually ESRI User Groups in most areas where their products have
a
> user base of any size. However, I would start with the ESRI Regional
staff.
> I have found that they are very helpful in this type of endeavor.
>
> Good luck
> John B.
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of pedro at plex.nl
> Sent: Thursday, June 02, 2005 12:10 PM
> To: AccessD at databaseadvisors.com
> Subject: [AccessD] Any ArcGis vba programmers out there?
>
> Hello Group,
>
> John W. Colby question about mappoint triggered me to ask the same about
> ArcGis.
>
> I have a script in Avenue that i need to have in VBA for ArcGis. Who can
> help me with this.
>
> Pedro Janssen
>
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From mmattys at rochester.rr.com  Thu Jun  2 16:18:25 2005
From: mmattys at rochester.rr.com (Michael R Mattys)
Date: Thu, 2 Jun 2005 17:18:25 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Any MapPoint programmers out there?
References: <002901c566f9$5c6c79f0$6c7aa8c0@ColbyM6805>
Message-ID: <018001c567b8$9e7b95f0$0202a8c0@default>

JC,

What solutions will you be coding in MapPoint?

----

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Mattys MapLib for Microsoft MapPoint
http://www.mattysconsulting.com



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From: "John W. Colby" <jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com>
To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'"
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Wednesday, June 01, 2005 6:29 PM
Subject: [AccessD] Any MapPoint programmers out there?


> I'm getting ready to do some pretty serious MapPoint stuff and wondered if
> anyone else out there is doing MapPoint?
>
> John W. Colby
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>
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From cfoust at infostatsystems.com  Thu Jun  2 17:14:07 2005
From: cfoust at infostatsystems.com (Charlotte Foust)
Date: Thu, 2 Jun 2005 15:14:07 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Error Loading Project?
Message-ID: <E61FC1D4B1918244905B113C680BEA8689A2E6@infoserver01.infostat.local>

Well, it has been discussed here in the past, but the gist is that both
XP and 2003 provide a VBE6.dll that is a different version from that
used by Office 2000.  This is not strictly an Access problem, since I've
seen reports of it toasting Excel and Word as well.  The errors arise
with both Access 2000 pre-SP3 and version 6.3.91.8 of the dll.  So if
you have 2000 and are running it on the same machine with a later
version or are passing code containers between machines with differing
versions, you will run into problems on the 2000 machine unless you have
SP3 installed.  SP3, and also a hot patch that was available prior to
SP3 release, actually patch the A2k executable so that it can cope with
the later version of the dll without going down in flames.

When I first ran into it, way back, I discovered that if I opened an mdb
created elsewhere in Access XP on my machine, which only had 2000, and
tried to view the code I was likely to regret it.  If I tried to
*import* the code containers into an Access 2000 database, I was SURE to
regret it.  The recovery steps listed in MSKB 304548 may or may not
work.  They didn't work for me when I encountered the problem.

Charlotte Foust


-----Original Message-----
From: John W. Colby [mailto:jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com] 
Sent: Thursday, June 02, 2005 1:00 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Error Loading Project?


Charlotte,

Why don't you give a synopsis of what the problem is and how it is
triggered.  XP provides new dll, 2K PreSP3 has wrong entry points, etc.

John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com 

Contribute your unused CPU cycles to a good cause:
http://folding.stanford.edu/

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Charlotte
Foust
Sent: Thursday, June 02, 2005 3:53 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Error Loading Project?


They don't break in XP and 2003, only the other direction.

Charlotte Foust


-----Original Message-----
From: Jim Lawrence [mailto:accessd at shaw.ca] 
Sent: Thursday, June 02, 2005 11:32 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Error Loading Project?


So what would be the best way to import Access into XP and 2003 without
major issues other than hand coding?

Jim 

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Charlotte
Foust
Sent: Thursday, June 02, 2005 11:25 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Error Loading Project?

2003 breaks it the same way as XP.

Charlotte Foust


-----Original Message-----
From: Francisco Tapia [mailto:fhtapia at gmail.com] 
Sent: Thursday, June 02, 2005 8:56 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Error Loading Project?


Not at this time, I Just ordered Access 2003, currenlty I have Office 97
& 2000 w/ Outlook  2003.

On 6/1/05, John W. Colby <jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com> wrote:
> Do you happen to have 2K and XP on the same machine?

> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Francisco
> Tapia
> Sent: Wednesday, June 01, 2005 8:47 PM
> To: access-l at peach.ease.lsoft.com; Access Developers discussion and
problem
> solving
> Subject: [AccessD] Error Loading Project?
> 
> 
> Recently I've been plauged by this error:
> 
> I have 2 Access ADP's , the primary is the dev copy and I write in
> this copy all my development code, once compiled, and tested I 
> "EXPORT" the new form or modified form to the Production .adp copy 
> this file used to be on the network, but due to the more recent 
> network errors that I was plauged w/ I decided to simply create a 
> folder on my pc called "build" and export to that folder instead, 
> everything had been working great, and in fact each copy compiles w/o 
> errors... but if I export from the dev on drive C to the build on 
> drive C I end up w/ an error on the build copy as "Error Loading 
> Project, disk or network error, continue loading?" if you click ok I 
> find that the module is empty.  If I then (while in the build copy), 
> IMPORT the same form, then I get a new Form1 classic import, I delete 
> the corrupted form and rename Form1 to Form and all is well again... 
> why can I not export anymore?
> 
-- 
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From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com  Thu Jun  2 17:35:19 2005
From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (John W. Colby)
Date: Thu, 02 Jun 2005 18:35:19 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Any MapPoint programmers out there?
In-Reply-To: <018001c567b8$9e7b95f0$0202a8c0@default>
Message-ID: <004401c567c3$5af6e220$6c7aa8c0@ColbyM6805>

My client calls people about contracts they need to fill.  They want to see
the location of the contract, and the location of the people selected to be
called.  I am well along.  The map is opening (I am programming to the lib,
not the activex control), I have built up a mappoint framework which can
open and close the app, the map, has classes for locations that hold the
pieces of the address as well as a location object for the address (if just
one), a pushpin if the location is put into the map etc.  

Eventually they want to do things like "this person is also close to this
other open contract" so that as they display a person to call, the map will
not only display the contract location they are being called about, they
will be shown other contracts close to that person's address.

Stuff like that.

John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com 

Contribute your unused CPU cycles to a good cause:
http://folding.stanford.edu/

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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Michael R Mattys
Sent: Thursday, June 02, 2005 5:18 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Any MapPoint programmers out there?


JC,

What solutions will you be coding in MapPoint?

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----- Original Message -----
From: "John W. Colby" <jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com>
To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'"
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Wednesday, June 01, 2005 6:29 PM
Subject: [AccessD] Any MapPoint programmers out there?


> I'm getting ready to do some pretty serious MapPoint stuff and 
> wondered if anyone else out there is doing MapPoint?
>
> John W. Colby
> www.ColbyConsulting.com
>
> Contribute your unused CPU cycles to a good cause: 
> http://folding.stanford.edu/
>
>
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From mmattys at rochester.rr.com  Thu Jun  2 18:12:57 2005
From: mmattys at rochester.rr.com (Michael R Mattys)
Date: Thu, 2 Jun 2005 19:12:57 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Any MapPoint programmers out there?
References: <004401c567c3$5af6e220$6c7aa8c0@ColbyM6805>
Message-ID: <01bf01c567c8$9f42c340$0202a8c0@default>

Hi John,

I have no doubt that everything you do in the next month
will match what I have done in 2 years. Nevertheless, if
you have any questions, I'll try to help.

----

Michael R. Mattys
Mattys MapLib for Microsoft MapPoint
http://www.mattysconsulting.com



----- Original Message -----
From: "John W. Colby" <jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com>
To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'"
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Thursday, June 02, 2005 6:35 PM
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Any MapPoint programmers out there?


> My client calls people about contracts they need to fill.  They want to
see
> the location of the contract, and the location of the people selected to
be
> called.  I am well along.  The map is opening (I am programming to the
lib,
> not the activex control), I have built up a mappoint framework which can
> open and close the app, the map, has classes for locations that hold the
> pieces of the address as well as a location object for the address (if
just
> one), a pushpin if the location is put into the map etc.
>
> Eventually they want to do things like "this person is also close to this
> other open contract" so that as they display a person to call, the map
will
> not only display the contract location they are being called about, they
> will be shown other contracts close to that person's address.
>
> Stuff like that.
>
> John W. Colby
> www.ColbyConsulting.com
>
> Contribute your unused CPU cycles to a good cause:
> http://folding.stanford.edu/
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Michael R
Mattys
> Sent: Thursday, June 02, 2005 5:18 PM
> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] Any MapPoint programmers out there?
>
>
> JC,
>
> What solutions will you be coding in MapPoint?
>
> ----
>
> Michael R. Mattys
> Mattys MapLib for Microsoft MapPoint http://www.mattysconsulting.com
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "John W. Colby" <jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com>
> To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'"
> <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, June 01, 2005 6:29 PM
> Subject: [AccessD] Any MapPoint programmers out there?
>
>
> > I'm getting ready to do some pretty serious MapPoint stuff and
> > wondered if anyone else out there is doing MapPoint?
> >
> > John W. Colby
> > www.ColbyConsulting.com



From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com  Thu Jun  2 18:34:52 2005
From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (John W. Colby)
Date: Thu, 02 Jun 2005 19:34:52 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Any MapPoint programmers out there?
In-Reply-To: <01bf01c567c8$9f42c340$0202a8c0@default>
Message-ID: <004501c567cb$acefb5e0$6c7aa8c0@ColbyM6805>

I appreciate it.  Mostly it's a matter of discovering how to do all those
things that can be done.

John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com 

Contribute your unused CPU cycles to a good cause:
http://folding.stanford.edu/

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Michael R Mattys
Sent: Thursday, June 02, 2005 7:13 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Any MapPoint programmers out there?


Hi John,

I have no doubt that everything you do in the next month
will match what I have done in 2 years. Nevertheless, if
you have any questions, I'll try to help.

----

Michael R. Mattys
Mattys MapLib for Microsoft MapPoint http://www.mattysconsulting.com



----- Original Message -----
From: "John W. Colby" <jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com>
To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'"
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Thursday, June 02, 2005 6:35 PM
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Any MapPoint programmers out there?


> My client calls people about contracts they need to fill.  They want 
> to
see
> the location of the contract, and the location of the people selected 
> to
be
> called.  I am well along.  The map is opening (I am programming to the
lib,
> not the activex control), I have built up a mappoint framework which 
> can open and close the app, the map, has classes for locations that 
> hold the pieces of the address as well as a location object for the 
> address (if
just
> one), a pushpin if the location is put into the map etc.
>
> Eventually they want to do things like "this person is also close to 
> this other open contract" so that as they display a person to call, 
> the map
will
> not only display the contract location they are being called about, 
> they will be shown other contracts close to that person's address.
>
> Stuff like that.
>
> John W. Colby
> www.ColbyConsulting.com
>
> Contribute your unused CPU cycles to a good cause: 
> http://folding.stanford.edu/
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Michael R
Mattys
> Sent: Thursday, June 02, 2005 5:18 PM
> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] Any MapPoint programmers out there?
>
>
> JC,
>
> What solutions will you be coding in MapPoint?
>
> ----
>
> Michael R. Mattys
> Mattys MapLib for Microsoft MapPoint http://www.mattysconsulting.com
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "John W. Colby" <jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com>
> To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'" 
> <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, June 01, 2005 6:29 PM
> Subject: [AccessD] Any MapPoint programmers out there?
>
>
> > I'm getting ready to do some pretty serious MapPoint stuff and 
> > wondered if anyone else out there is doing MapPoint?
> >
> > John W. Colby
> > www.ColbyConsulting.com

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From accessd at shaw.ca  Fri Jun  3 01:42:20 2005
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Thu, 02 Jun 2005 23:42:20 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Error Loading Project?
In-Reply-To: <E61FC1D4B1918244905B113C680BEA86873A6C@infoserver01.infostat.local>
Message-ID: <0IHH00M2OXAFC3@l-daemon>

Charlotte: Good, honestly, who would ever go back... now the going back
option has been eliminated. :-)

It is a good plan.

Thanks
Jim

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Charlotte Foust
Sent: Thursday, June 02, 2005 12:53 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Error Loading Project?

They don't break in XP and 2003, only the other direction.

Charlotte Foust


-----Original Message-----
From: Jim Lawrence [mailto:accessd at shaw.ca] 
Sent: Thursday, June 02, 2005 11:32 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Error Loading Project?


So what would be the best way to import Access into XP and 2003 without
major issues other than hand coding?

Jim 

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Charlotte
Foust
Sent: Thursday, June 02, 2005 11:25 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Error Loading Project?

2003 breaks it the same way as XP.

Charlotte Foust


-----Original Message-----
From: Francisco Tapia [mailto:fhtapia at gmail.com] 
Sent: Thursday, June 02, 2005 8:56 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Error Loading Project?


Not at this time, I Just ordered Access 2003, currenlty I have Office 97
& 2000 w/ Outlook  2003.

On 6/1/05, John W. Colby <jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com> wrote:
> Do you happen to have 2K and XP on the same machine?

> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Francisco
> Tapia
> Sent: Wednesday, June 01, 2005 8:47 PM
> To: access-l at peach.ease.lsoft.com; Access Developers discussion and
problem
> solving
> Subject: [AccessD] Error Loading Project?
> 
> 
> Recently I've been plauged by this error:
> 
> I have 2 Access ADP's , the primary is the dev copy and I write in
> this copy all my development code, once compiled, and tested I 
> "EXPORT" the new form or modified form to the Production .adp copy 
> this file used to be on the network, but due to the more recent 
> network errors that I was plauged w/ I decided to simply create a 
> folder on my pc called "build" and export to that folder instead, 
> everything had been working great, and in fact each copy compiles w/o 
> errors... but if I export from the dev on drive C to the build on 
> drive C I end up w/ an error on the build copy as "Error Loading 
> Project, disk or network error, continue loading?" if you click ok I 
> find that the module is empty.  If I then (while in the build copy), 
> IMPORT the same form, then I get a new Form1 classic import, I delete 
> the corrupted form and rename Form1 to Form and all is well again... 
> why can I not export anymore?
> 
-- 
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From accessd666 at yahoo.com  Fri Jun  3 04:55:14 2005
From: accessd666 at yahoo.com (Sad Der)
Date: Fri, 3 Jun 2005 02:55:14 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [AccessD] OT: Adjust an Outlook Form?
Message-ID: <20050603095514.62793.qmail@web31611.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Hi group,

I need to change an Outlook form. When I click:
  Tools -> Forms -> Choose Form
I see the form in the folder: 
  Organizational Forms Library

I saved this form to a folder on my harddisk.
How the %$%$@ can I change the code/gui for this
form??

When I click:
  Tools -> Forms -> Design Form
I cannot select the form I just saved. I cannot
browse! This button is gray. 

Any ideas?
I want to add some minor changes and implement them
today....I hope.

TIA

SD


		
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From paul.hartland at isharp.co.uk  Fri Jun  3 04:59:06 2005
From: paul.hartland at isharp.co.uk (Paul Hartland (ISHARP))
Date: Fri, 3 Jun 2005 10:59:06 +0100
Subject: [AccessD] Any MapPoint programmers out there?
In-Reply-To: <004501c567cb$acefb5e0$6c7aa8c0@ColbyM6805>
Message-ID: <!~!UENERkVCMDkAAQACAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAC4AAAAAAAAAclrM129q6km1GlSfRwF8CgEAFKerAD79REu7GTojEo2iDgAAAAddkgAAEAAAAOg+kCFI4YxLuoPnkukyUmkBAAAAAA==@isharp.co.uk>

Anyone got any sample code to get me started, I have just installed MapPoint
2004 (60 day evaluation).  All I want to do (using Visual Basic 6.0) is send
two postcodes to MapPoint and have Visual Basic display a message box with
the distance between the two postcodes.

Sample code for this and anything like it will be greatly appreciated.

Many thanks in advance...

Paul Hartland
Database Developer
 

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of John W. Colby
Sent: 03 June 2005 00:35
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Any MapPoint programmers out there?

I appreciate it.  Mostly it's a matter of discovering how to do all those
things that can be done.

John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com 

Contribute your unused CPU cycles to a good cause:
http://folding.stanford.edu/

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Michael R Mattys
Sent: Thursday, June 02, 2005 7:13 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Any MapPoint programmers out there?


Hi John,

I have no doubt that everything you do in the next month will match what I
have done in 2 years. Nevertheless, if you have any questions, I'll try to
help.

----

Michael R. Mattys
Mattys MapLib for Microsoft MapPoint http://www.mattysconsulting.com



----- Original Message -----
From: "John W. Colby" <jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com>
To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'"
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Thursday, June 02, 2005 6:35 PM
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Any MapPoint programmers out there?


> My client calls people about contracts they need to fill.  They want 
> to
see
> the location of the contract, and the location of the people selected 
> to
be
> called.  I am well along.  The map is opening (I am programming to the
lib,
> not the activex control), I have built up a mappoint framework which 
> can open and close the app, the map, has classes for locations that 
> hold the pieces of the address as well as a location object for the 
> address (if
just
> one), a pushpin if the location is put into the map etc.
>
> Eventually they want to do things like "this person is also close to 
> this other open contract" so that as they display a person to call, 
> the map
will
> not only display the contract location they are being called about, 
> they will be shown other contracts close to that person's address.
>
> Stuff like that.
>
> John W. Colby
> www.ColbyConsulting.com
>
> Contribute your unused CPU cycles to a good cause: 
> http://folding.stanford.edu/
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Michael R
Mattys
> Sent: Thursday, June 02, 2005 5:18 PM
> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] Any MapPoint programmers out there?
>
>
> JC,
>
> What solutions will you be coding in MapPoint?
>
> ----
>
> Michael R. Mattys
> Mattys MapLib for Microsoft MapPoint http://www.mattysconsulting.com
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "John W. Colby" <jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com>
> To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'" 
> <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, June 01, 2005 6:29 PM
> Subject: [AccessD] Any MapPoint programmers out there?
>
>
> > I'm getting ready to do some pretty serious MapPoint stuff and 
> > wondered if anyone else out there is doing MapPoint?
> >
> > John W. Colby
> > www.ColbyConsulting.com

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From paul.hartland at isharp.co.uk  Fri Jun  3 05:44:15 2005
From: paul.hartland at isharp.co.uk (Paul Hartland (ISHARP))
Date: Fri, 3 Jun 2005 11:44:15 +0100
Subject: [AccessD] Any MapPoint programmers out there?
In-Reply-To: <042401c5675d$506a2440$0202a8c0@default>
Message-ID: <!~!UENERkVCMDkAAQACAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAC4AAAAAAAAAclrM129q6km1GlSfRwF8CgEAFKerAD79REu7GTojEo2iDgAAAAddkgAAEAAAAD4V6qLGbG5Dvvbgg0/iHKYBAAAAAA==@isharp.co.uk>

The .DistanceTo function seems to return distance as the crow flies....Is
this correct, only I need the actual mileage calculation 

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Michael R Mattys
Sent: 02 June 2005 11:25
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Any MapPoint programmers out there?

Since you've said 'postcodes', I'll assume you're in the UK (Not that it
makes a difference at the moment.) You'll be looking to use the .DistanceTo
function

Try here:
http://groups-beta.google.com/groups?hl=en&q=mappoint+distanceto

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Paul Hartland (ISHARP)" <paul.hartland at isharp.co.uk>
To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'"
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Thursday, June 02, 2005 6:05 AM
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Any MapPoint programmers out there?


> Initially all I want to be able to do is pass a clients postcode and
several
> + employee postcodes into MapPoint and return the miles from client 
> + for
> every employee....
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Michael R
Mattys
> Sent: 02 June 2005 10:45
> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] Any MapPoint programmers out there?
>
> I have been programming in MapPoint for over 2 years using both Access 
> and VB6. I have several apps created that I sell, including a full 
> routing and scheduling app.
> Haven't had time to update my website since I started.
>
> My efforts were started at Eric Frost's www.mp2kmag.com, where you'll 
> find articles and discussion.
>
> I frequently answer questions on Newsgroups:
> Microsoft.Public.MapPoint and Microsoft.Public.Street-Trips.
> ----
>
> Michael R. Mattys
> Mattys MapLib for Microsoft MapPoint
> http://www.mattysconsulting.com
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Paul Hartland (ISHARP)" <paul.hartland at isharp.co.uk>
> To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'"
> <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
> Sent: Thursday, June 02, 2005 3:00 AM
> Subject: RE: [AccessD] Any MapPoint programmers out there?
>
>
> > I am also getting ready to use MapPoint with VB6 and SQL Server 
> > 2000,
> mainly
> > want to use it to calculate distances that our employees are from 
> > our clients, but may also want to be able to create maps/directions
etc....
> >
> > So if anyone knows any good sites or can help me with getting 
> > started I would be grateful....
> >
> > Thanks in advance for any help on this....
> >
> > Paul Hartland
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> > [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of John W.
> > Colby
> > Sent: 01 June 2005 23:29
> > To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
> > Subject: [AccessD] Any MapPoint programmers out there?
> >
> > I'm getting ready to do some pretty serious MapPoint stuff and 
> > wondered if anyone else out there is doing MapPoint?
> >
> > John W. Colby
> > www.ColbyConsulting.com
> >
> > Contribute your unused CPU cycles to a good cause:
> > http://folding.stanford.edu/
> >
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From mmattys at rochester.rr.com  Fri Jun  3 06:15:24 2005
From: mmattys at rochester.rr.com (Michael R Mattys)
Date: Fri, 3 Jun 2005 07:15:24 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Any MapPoint programmers out there?
References: <!~!UENERkVCMDkAAQACAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAC4AAAAAAAAAclrM129q6km1GlSfRwF8CgEAFKerAD79REu7GTojEo2iDgAAAAddkgAAEAAAAD4V6qLGbG5Dvvbgg0/iHKYBAAAAAA==@isharp.co.uk>
Message-ID: <025c01c5682d$8cc142e0$0202a8c0@default>


----- Original Message -----
From: "Paul Hartland (ISHARP)" <paul.hartland at isharp.co.uk>
To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'"
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Friday, June 03, 2005 6:44 AM
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Any MapPoint programmers out there?


> The .DistanceTo function seems to return distance as the crow flies....Is
> this correct, only I need the actual mileage calculation


Paul,

It's a good approximation. The code that gives you actual
miles involves enumeration of routes directions, which is a
"just a tiny bit more" code to write.

----

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Mattys MapLib for Microsoft MapPoint
http://www.mattysconsulting.com



From paul.hartland at fsmail.net  Fri Jun  3 06:23:16 2005
From: paul.hartland at fsmail.net (paul.hartland at fsmail.net)
Date: Fri,  3 Jun 2005 13:23:16 +0200 (CEST)
Subject: [AccessD] Any MapPoint programmers out there?
Message-ID: <10153117.1117797796484.JavaMail.www@wwinf3001>

That's what I am going to have to do then, cause it will be used to cross reference expense claims on our main system with around a 10% leeway, at the moment I am just playing about with MapPoint as I only installed it today....

So if anyone can help me with getting the actual mileage, it would be very appreciated.

Paul Hartland





Message date : Jun 03 2005, 12:14 PM
>From : "Michael R Mattys" 
To : "Access Developers discussion and problem solving" 
Copy to : 
Subject : Re: [AccessD] Any MapPoint programmers out there?

----- Original Message -----
From: "Paul Hartland (ISHARP)" 
To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'"

Sent: Friday, June 03, 2005 6:44 AM
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Any MapPoint programmers out there?


> The .DistanceTo function seems to return distance as the crow flies....Is
> this correct, only I need the actual mileage calculation


Paul,

It's a good approximation. The code that gives you actual
miles involves enumeration of routes directions, which is a
"just a tiny bit more" code to write.

----

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From mmattys at rochester.rr.com  Fri Jun  3 06:31:04 2005
From: mmattys at rochester.rr.com (Michael R Mattys)
Date: Fri, 3 Jun 2005 07:31:04 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Any MapPoint programmers out there?
References: <10153117.1117797796484.JavaMail.www@wwinf3001>
Message-ID: <027801c5682f$bbaa9f00$0202a8c0@default>

Hang on, Paul - I'm looking for it.

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Sent: Friday, June 03, 2005 7:23 AM
Subject: Re: Re: [AccessD] Any MapPoint programmers out there?


> That's what I am going to have to do then, cause it will be used to cross
reference expense claims on our main system with around a 10% leeway, at the
moment I am just playing about with MapPoint as I only installed it
today....
>
> So if anyone can help me with getting the actual mileage, it would be very
appreciated.



From cyx5 at cdc.gov  Fri Jun  3 06:34:10 2005
From: cyx5 at cdc.gov (Nicholson, Karen)
Date: Fri, 3 Jun 2005 07:34:10 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Friday Joke Day
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Just a reminder...


From mmattys at rochester.rr.com  Fri Jun  3 06:45:21 2005
From: mmattys at rochester.rr.com (Michael R Mattys)
Date: Fri, 3 Jun 2005 07:45:21 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Any MapPoint programmers out there?
References: <10153117.1117797796484.JavaMail.www@wwinf3001>
	<027801c5682f$bbaa9f00$0202a8c0@default>
Message-ID: <028401c56831$baa41990$0202a8c0@default>

Paul,

I pulled this from an answer on Google
Author is Gilles Kohl (MVP)
************************
>In my custom software I need to provide driving distance and directions
>between any 2 addresses (a map would be nice too). Does MapPoint have an
API
>that I can hook into so I can integrate these features in my software?

Yes it does, no problem. And in case you won't take my word for it,
here's sample code that works with MapPoint 2001 (to prevent
word-wrapping problems, I've also attached it as a text file)

For a map, you could either use the CopyMap method of the Map object
(copies the map as a picture to the clipboard, use like so:

objMap.CopyMap
Image1.Picture = Clipboard.GetData
), or use the full-blown MapPoint ActiveX control available in
MapPoint 2002.

Hope this helps,

Regards,
Gilles.

Option Explicit

' remember to set a reference to the Microsoft MapPoint Object Library
(North American)
Dim objApp As New MapPoint.Application

Private Sub cmdCalcDistance_Click()
Dim objMap As MapPoint.Map
Dim objLocMS As MapPoint.Location
Dim objLocHRC As MapPoint.Location

' Uncomment the following line to make MapPoint visible
' objApp.Visible = True

' Get a map object
Set objMap = objApp.NewMap

' Clear the route (
objMap.ActiveRoute.Clear

'Illustrate finding a United States address
Set objLocMS = objMap.FindAddress("One Microsoft Way", "Redmond",
"Washington", "98052", geoCountryUnitedStates)
If objLocMS Is Nothing Then
MsgBox "Sorry - did not find US address"
Exit Sub
End If

' Found it OK - add to route
objMap.ActiveRoute.Waypoints.A dd objLocMS, "Microsoft"

'Illustrate finding a Canadian address
Set objLocHRC = objMap.FindAddress("4295 Blackcombe Way",
"Whistler", "British Columbia", "VON1B4", geoCountryCanada)
If objLocHRC Is Nothing Then
   MsgBox "Sorry - did not find Canadian address"
   Exit Sub
End If

' Found it OK - add to route
objMap.ActiveRoute.Waypoints.Add objLocHRC, "HRC"

' Compute route
objMap.ActiveRoute.Calculate
If objMap.ActiveRoute.IsCalculated Then
        MsgBox "The distance is " & objMap.ActiveRoute.Distance & _
        IIf(objApp.Units = geoMiles, " miles", " km")
Else
MsgBox "Sorry, could not compute route"
End If
End Sub

Michael R. Mattys
Mattys MapLib for Microsoft MapPoint
http://www.mattysconsulting.com



From paul.hartland at fsmail.net  Fri Jun  3 06:49:51 2005
From: paul.hartland at fsmail.net (paul.hartland at fsmail.net)
Date: Fri,  3 Jun 2005 13:49:51 +0200 (CEST)
Subject: [AccessD] Any MapPoint programmers out there?
Message-ID: <8847644.1117799391745.JavaMail.www@wwinf3102>

Thanks very much, I can start playing now.....





Message date : Jun 03 2005, 12:46 PM
>From : "Michael R Mattys" 
To : "Access Developers discussion and problem solving" 
Copy to : 
Subject : Re: Re: [AccessD] Any MapPoint programmers out there?
Paul,

I pulled this from an answer on Google
Author is Gilles Kohl (MVP)
************************
>In my custom software I need to provide driving distance and directions
>between any 2 addresses (a map would be nice too). Does MapPoint have an
API
>that I can hook into so I can integrate these features in my software?

Yes it does, no problem. And in case you won't take my word for it,
here's sample code that works with MapPoint 2001 (to prevent
word-wrapping problems, I've also attached it as a text file)

For a map, you could either use the CopyMap method of the Map object
(copies the map as a picture to the clipboard, use like so:

objMap.CopyMap
Image1.Picture = Clipboard.GetData
), or use the full-blown MapPoint ActiveX control available in
MapPoint 2002.

Hope this helps,

Regards,
Gilles.

Option Explicit

' remember to set a reference to the Microsoft MapPoint Object Library
(North American)
Dim objApp As New MapPoint.Application

Private Sub cmdCalcDistance_Click()
Dim objMap As MapPoint.Map
Dim objLocMS As MapPoint.Location
Dim objLocHRC As MapPoint.Location

' Uncomment the following line to make MapPoint visible
' objApp.Visible = True

' Get a map object
Set objMap = objApp.NewMap

' Clear the route (
objMap.ActiveRoute.Clear

'Illustrate finding a United States address
Set objLocMS = objMap.FindAddress("One Microsoft Way", "Redmond",
"Washington", "98052", geoCountryUnitedStates)
If objLocMS Is Nothing Then
MsgBox "Sorry - did not find US address"
Exit Sub
End If

' Found it OK - add to route
objMap.ActiveRoute.Waypoints.A dd objLocMS, "Microsoft"

'Illustrate finding a Canadian address
Set objLocHRC = objMap.FindAddress("4295 Blackcombe Way",
"Whistler", "British Columbia", "VON1B4", geoCountryCanada)
If objLocHRC Is Nothing Then
MsgBox "Sorry - did not find Canadian address"
Exit Sub
End If

' Found it OK - add to route
objMap.ActiveRoute.Waypoints.Add objLocHRC, "HRC"

' Compute route
objMap.ActiveRoute.Calculate
If objMap.ActiveRoute.IsCalculated Then
MsgBox "The distance is " & objMap.ActiveRoute.Distance & _
IIf(objApp.Units = geoMiles, " miles", " km")
Else
MsgBox "Sorry, could not compute route"
End If
End Sub

Michael R. Mattys
Mattys MapLib for Microsoft MapPoint
http://www.mattysconsulting.com

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From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com  Fri Jun  3 07:24:06 2005
From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (John W. Colby)
Date: Fri, 03 Jun 2005 08:24:06 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Any MapPoint programmers out there?
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Public Function DistanceAsTheCarDrives(Lat1 As Double, Lon1 As Double, Lat2
As Double, Lon2 As Double) As Double
   Dim oLoc1 As MapPoint.Location
   Dim oLoc2 As MapPoint.Location

   Set oLoc1 = mMap.GetLocation(Lat1, Lon1, 0)
   Set oLoc2 = mMap.GetLocation(Lat2, Lon2, 0)

   mMap.ActiveRoute.Clear
   mMap.ActiveRoute.Waypoints.Add oLoc1, "Start"
   mMap.ActiveRoute.Waypoints.Add oLoc2, "End"
   mMap.ActiveRoute.Calculate
   DistanceAsTheCarDrives = mMap.ActiveRoute.Distance
End Function

Ignore the lat/long thing and start with your two locations.

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www.ColbyConsulting.com 

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(ISHARP)
Sent: Friday, June 03, 2005 6:44 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Any MapPoint programmers out there?


The .DistanceTo function seems to return distance as the crow flies....Is
this correct, only I need the actual mileage calculation 

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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Michael R Mattys
Sent: 02 June 2005 11:25
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Any MapPoint programmers out there?

Since you've said 'postcodes', I'll assume you're in the UK (Not that it
makes a difference at the moment.) You'll be looking to use the .DistanceTo
function

Try here: http://groups-beta.google.com/groups?hl=en&q=mappoint+distanceto

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From: "Paul Hartland (ISHARP)" <paul.hartland at isharp.co.uk>
To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'"
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Thursday, June 02, 2005 6:05 AM
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Any MapPoint programmers out there?


> Initially all I want to be able to do is pass a clients postcode and
several
> + employee postcodes into MapPoint and return the miles from client
> + for
> every employee....
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Michael R
Mattys
> Sent: 02 June 2005 10:45
> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] Any MapPoint programmers out there?
>
> I have been programming in MapPoint for over 2 years using both Access
> and VB6. I have several apps created that I sell, including a full 
> routing and scheduling app.
> Haven't had time to update my website since I started.
>
> My efforts were started at Eric Frost's www.mp2kmag.com, where you'll
> find articles and discussion.
>
> I frequently answer questions on Newsgroups: Microsoft.Public.MapPoint 
> and Microsoft.Public.Street-Trips.
> ----
>
> Michael R. Mattys
> Mattys MapLib for Microsoft MapPoint http://www.mattysconsulting.com
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Paul Hartland (ISHARP)" <paul.hartland at isharp.co.uk>
> To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'"
> <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
> Sent: Thursday, June 02, 2005 3:00 AM
> Subject: RE: [AccessD] Any MapPoint programmers out there?
>
>
> > I am also getting ready to use MapPoint with VB6 and SQL Server 
> > 2000,
> mainly
> > want to use it to calculate distances that our employees are from 
> > our clients, but may also want to be able to create maps/directions
etc....
> >
> > So if anyone knows any good sites or can help me with getting 
> > started I would be grateful....
> >
> > Thanks in advance for any help on this....
> >
> > Paul Hartland
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> > [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of John W.
> > Colby
> > Sent: 01 June 2005 23:29
> > To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
> > Subject: [AccessD] Any MapPoint programmers out there?
> >
> > I'm getting ready to do some pretty serious MapPoint stuff and 
> > wondered if anyone else out there is doing MapPoint?
> >
> > John W. Colby
> > www.ColbyConsulting.com
> >
> > Contribute your unused CPU cycles to a good cause:
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From paul.hartland at isharp.co.uk  Fri Jun  3 08:36:46 2005
From: paul.hartland at isharp.co.uk (Paul Hartland (ISHARP))
Date: Fri, 3 Jun 2005 14:36:46 +0100
Subject: [AccessD] Any MapPoint programmers out there?
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Thanks to everyone for their code samples, the day should now fly by with
this for me to play with  

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Sent: 03 June 2005 13:24
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Any MapPoint programmers out there?

Public Function DistanceAsTheCarDrives(Lat1 As Double, Lon1 As Double, Lat2
As Double, Lon2 As Double) As Double
   Dim oLoc1 As MapPoint.Location
   Dim oLoc2 As MapPoint.Location

   Set oLoc1 = mMap.GetLocation(Lat1, Lon1, 0)
   Set oLoc2 = mMap.GetLocation(Lat2, Lon2, 0)

   mMap.ActiveRoute.Clear
   mMap.ActiveRoute.Waypoints.Add oLoc1, "Start"
   mMap.ActiveRoute.Waypoints.Add oLoc2, "End"
   mMap.ActiveRoute.Calculate
   DistanceAsTheCarDrives = mMap.ActiveRoute.Distance End Function

Ignore the lat/long thing and start with your two locations.

John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com 

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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Paul Hartland
(ISHARP)
Sent: Friday, June 03, 2005 6:44 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Any MapPoint programmers out there?


The .DistanceTo function seems to return distance as the crow flies....Is
this correct, only I need the actual mileage calculation 

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Michael R Mattys
Sent: 02 June 2005 11:25
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Any MapPoint programmers out there?

Since you've said 'postcodes', I'll assume you're in the UK (Not that it
makes a difference at the moment.) You'll be looking to use the .DistanceTo
function

Try here: http://groups-beta.google.com/groups?hl=en&q=mappoint+distanceto

----

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Paul Hartland (ISHARP)" <paul.hartland at isharp.co.uk>
To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'"
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Thursday, June 02, 2005 6:05 AM
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Any MapPoint programmers out there?


> Initially all I want to be able to do is pass a clients postcode and
several
> + employee postcodes into MapPoint and return the miles from client 
> + for
> every employee....
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Michael R
Mattys
> Sent: 02 June 2005 10:45
> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] Any MapPoint programmers out there?
>
> I have been programming in MapPoint for over 2 years using both Access 
> and VB6. I have several apps created that I sell, including a full 
> routing and scheduling app.
> Haven't had time to update my website since I started.
>
> My efforts were started at Eric Frost's www.mp2kmag.com, where you'll 
> find articles and discussion.
>
> I frequently answer questions on Newsgroups: Microsoft.Public.MapPoint 
> and Microsoft.Public.Street-Trips.
> ----
>
> Michael R. Mattys
> Mattys MapLib for Microsoft MapPoint http://www.mattysconsulting.com
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Paul Hartland (ISHARP)" <paul.hartland at isharp.co.uk>
> To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'"
> <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
> Sent: Thursday, June 02, 2005 3:00 AM
> Subject: RE: [AccessD] Any MapPoint programmers out there?
>
>
> > I am also getting ready to use MapPoint with VB6 and SQL Server 
> > 2000,
> mainly
> > want to use it to calculate distances that our employees are from 
> > our clients, but may also want to be able to create maps/directions
etc....
> >
> > So if anyone knows any good sites or can help me with getting 
> > started I would be grateful....
> >
> > Thanks in advance for any help on this....
> >
> > Paul Hartland
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> > [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of John W.
> > Colby
> > Sent: 01 June 2005 23:29
> > To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
> > Subject: [AccessD] Any MapPoint programmers out there?
> >
> > I'm getting ready to do some pretty serious MapPoint stuff and 
> > wondered if anyone else out there is doing MapPoint?
> >
> > John W. Colby
> > www.ColbyConsulting.com
> >
> > Contribute your unused CPU cycles to a good cause:
> > http://folding.stanford.edu/
> >
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From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com  Fri Jun  3 09:09:26 2005
From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (John W. Colby)
Date: Fri, 03 Jun 2005 10:09:26 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] MapPoint location class
In-Reply-To: <8847644.1117799391745.JavaMail.www@wwinf3102>
Message-ID: <000101c56845$dcc88c90$6c7aa8c0@ColbyM6805>

Paul,

This code (see below this message) is a class clsLocation that I developed
to hold information about a location.  There is only one reference that is
specific to my code which I will get to in a minute.  As you know I prefer
to use classes if the code is going to be more than trivial.  

This class holds all the information and methods that I thought would be
useful for a single location.  I populate it initially from a function that
opens a recordset of addresses I want to map.  Each class instance holds
data about a single location.  

I pass in the address information.  I also pass in a "name" value in order
to allow naming the pushpin etc.  I pass in a "type" integer just so that I
can sort the locations.  For example I am mapping contracts and people to
call about the contracts.  For this purpose, in my application every
contract address is a "type" of 1 and people are "type" of 2.  Type
information is obviously specific to the application and can just be zero if
you don't need to "group" the locations into sets.  All of the data passed
in are stored in private variables in the class.

Function init(strName As String, lintType As Integer, lstrAddr1 As String,
lstrCity As String, _
                lstrState As String, lstrPostalCode As String, _
                Optional lstrCountry As String = "USA")

The one piece of code specific to my MapPoint framework (which is under
development and which this is pulled from) is the line in init:

    Set mcolFindAddrRes = cMPtApp.ActiveMap.FindAddressResults(mstrAddr1,
mstrCity, , lstrState, mstrPostalCode, mstrCountry)

cMPTApp is a function that returns a pointer to the open MapPoint
application.  This corresponds to a single global variable pointer to the
MapPoint Application, dimensioned private to the basInitMapPoint module,
initialized in an InitMapPoint() method, and then a function cMPtApp()
returns the pointer to that private global variable.

This class then can provide properties to get back the data originally
supplied (if you want that) such as the zipcode and so forth.  It also has
built into the class a call to "find" the address - in Init():

    Set mcolFindAddrRes = cMPtApp.ActiveMap.FindAddressResults(mstrAddr1,
mstrCity, , lstrState, mstrPostalCode, mstrCountry)

The ActiveMap.FindAddressResults returns a collection of location objects
that are candidates for the address you passed in.  What happens is that if
the address does not resolve to a single address then MapPoint will return 0
to N possible locations that MIGHT be what you are looking for.

mcolFindAddrRes by the way is a collection in my class which holds all of
the location objects returned by ActiveMap.FindAddressResults.  You may or
may not even want this kept around after the Init() finishes.  It does allow
you to map all the "possible locations" if you want to see them for some
reason.

Having asked MapPoint to find the address, the class then checks to see if
exactly one location was returned in the collection.  First of all, I have
seen issues where the call to the FindAddressResults returned an automation
error so I check for errors first.  I get the feeling that the automation
errors were caused by operator error (me) but it caused me to put in the
check anyway.

If no error, then I check for just one location in the results collection:

        If mcolFindAddrRes.Count = 1 Then
            Set mLoc = mcolFindAddrRes.Item(1)
            mblnOneLoc = True
        Else
            mblnOneLoc = False
        End If

If there is just one location returned, I grab that location object and
store it in mLoc.  Mloc is the key to this class since it is the actual
location object for an address that MapPoint understands.  Having this
location object allows us to create a push pin, get distances to other
locations etc.

So by the time the Init() returns you either have a location object and a
Boolean saying you have just one, or you do not have a location object and
the Boolean says that you didn't find just one location for the address
supplied.  What I have found is that MapPoint is very sensitive to things
like "PO Box XXX" or "Suite 44" in the address1 field and fails to map to a
single location for such addresses.

The class then provides other functions useful to a location such as the
MapIt() method which places a pushpin into the map and stores the pushpin
object.  I do not automatically create push pins since some applications
don't need them.  The class also provides two distance methods which will
return the distance between this location and another location object passed
in.

Obviously error handling is still under development.  I have only been doing
this for two days, and that time includes a bunch of dev on the MapPoint
framework itself - which this class is a part of.

As an example of using this class, I am adding a couple of fields in my
application's Agency table to allow me to iterate through all the agencies
and try and map their address.  I want to do this up front, then not pull an
agency for mapping if I have already found it not mappable.  The code to do
that is immediately below.  As you can see, once the Location class is
built, using it is trivial and allows you to do a lot of stuff pretty
quickly.

Anyway, this should allow for a discussion of possibilities with MapPoint.
By having a class for the location, you can wrap any and all code and
properties that you think a location needs into a wrapper and use it quickly
and easily.  

'****************************************
'Class usage code - map all agencies that are mappable
'****************************************

Function TestAgencyMapAddr()
Dim db As DAO.Database
Dim rst As DAO.Recordset
Dim strSQL As String
Dim lclsLocation As clsLocation
Const cintAgency = 1

    MPtInit CurrentProject.Connection
    With cMPtApp
        .Top = 0
        .Left = 0
        .WindowState = geoWindowStateMaximize
        .Visible = True
    End With
    strSQL = "SELECT * " & _
                "FROM qSelAgencyMapAddr " & _
                "WHERE AG_DteMappable IS NULL"
    Set db = CurrentDb
    Set rst = db.OpenRecordset(strSQL)
    With rst
        While Not .EOF
            Set lclsLocation = New clsLocation
            lclsLocation.init !Name, cintAgency, !Addr1, !City, !State, !Zip
            If lclsLocation.pOneLoc Then
                lclsLocation.mMapIt
            End If
            .MoveNext
            DoEvents
        Wend
    End With
End Function


'****************************************
'The class code
'****************************************

Option Compare Database
Option Explicit

Private mintType As Integer                 'The type of location.  Defined
by application.  For example, 1 = business, 2 = personal etc.
Private mstrName As String                  'The location name - company
name, person name etc.
Private mstrAddr1 As String                 'The address fields needed to
find a location
Private mstrCity As String
Private mstrState As String
Private mstrPostalCode As String
Private mstrCountry As String
Private mblnOneLoc As Boolean            'True if more than one location
matches the address info
Private mblnAutomationErr As Boolean
Private mcolFindAddrRes As MapPoint.FindResults  'The collection of possible
locations if more than one
Private mLoc As MapPoint.Location           'The specific location object if
narrowed down to just one
Private mPushPin As MapPoint.Pushpin        'The pushpin associated with the
location

Private Sub Class_Terminate()
    Set mLoc = Nothing
    Set mcolFindAddrRes = Nothing
    Set mPushPin = Nothing
End Sub
Function init(strName As String, lintType As Integer, lstrAddr1 As String,
lstrCity As String, _
                lstrState As String, lstrPostalCode As String, _
                Optional lstrCountry As String = "USA")
On Error GoTo Err_init
    mstrName = strName
    mintType = lintType
    mstrAddr1 = lstrAddr1
    mstrCity = lstrCity
    mstrState = lstrState
    mstrPostalCode = lstrPostalCode
    mstrCountry = lstrCountry
    On Error Resume Next
    Set mcolFindAddrRes = cMPtApp.ActiveMap.FindAddressResults(mstrAddr1,
mstrCity, , lstrState, mstrPostalCode, mstrCountry)
    If Err = 0 Then
        If mcolFindAddrRes.Count = 1 Then
            Set mLoc = mcolFindAddrRes.Item(1)
            mblnOneLoc = True
        Else
            mblnOneLoc = False
        End If
    Else
        mblnOneLoc = False
        mblnAutomationErr = True
    End If
Exit_init:
Exit Function
Err_init:
        MsgBox Err.Description, , "Error in Function clsLocation.init"
        Resume Exit_init
    Resume 0    '.FOR TROUBLESHOOTING
End Function
Property Get pOneLoc() As Boolean
    pOneLoc = mblnOneLoc
End PropertyProperty Get colFindAddrRes() As MapPoint.FindResults
    Set colFindAddrRes = mcolFindAddrRes
End Property
Property Get pLoc() As MapPoint.Location
    Set pLoc = mLoc
End Property
Property Get pPushPin() As MapPoint.Pushpin
    Set pPushPin = mPushPin
End Property
Property Get pName() As String
    pName = mstrName
End Property
Function mMapIt() As Boolean
On Error GoTo Err_mMapIt
Dim objLoc As MapPoint.Location
    If mblnAutomationErr Then
        Debug.Print mstrName & " Could not be looked up"
    Else
        If mblnOneLoc Then
            Set mPushPin = cMPtApp.ActiveMap.AddPushpin(mcolFindAddrRes(1),
mstrName)
            mMapIt = True
        Else
            Debug.Print mcolFindAddrRes.Count & " locations found for " &
mstrName
        End If
    End If
'    For Each objLoc In mcolFindAddrRes
'        Set mPushPin = cMPtApp.ActiveMap.AddPushpin(objLoc, mstrName)
'    Next objLoc
Exit_mMapIt:
Exit Function
Err_mMapIt:
        MsgBox Err.Description, , "Error in Function clsLocation.mMapIt"
        Resume Exit_mMapIt
    Resume 0    '.FOR TROUBLESHOOTING
End Function

Public Function DistanceAsTheCrowFlies(oLoc2 As MapPoint.Location) As Double
    If mblnOneLoc Then
        DistanceAsTheCrowFlies = mLoc.DistanceTo(oLoc2)
    Else
        DistanceAsTheCrowFlies = 0
    End If
End Function
Public Function DistanceAsTheCarDrives(oLoc2 As MapPoint.Location) As Double
On Error GoTo Err_DistanceAsTheCarDrives
    With cMPt.cMPtMap
        .ActiveRoute.Clear
        .ActiveRoute.Waypoints.Add mLoc, "Start"
        .ActiveRoute.Waypoints.Add oLoc2, "End"
        .ActiveRoute.Calculate
        DistanceAsTheCarDrives = .ActiveRoute.Distance
    End With
Exit_DistanceAsTheCarDrives:
Exit Function
Err_DistanceAsTheCarDrives:
        MsgBox Err.Description, , "Error in Function
clsFWMapPt.DistanceAsTheCarDrives"
        Resume Exit_DistanceAsTheCarDrives
    Resume 0    '.FOR TROUBLESHOOTING
End Function


John W. Colby
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From mmattys at rochester.rr.com  Fri Jun  3 09:37:18 2005
From: mmattys at rochester.rr.com (Michael R Mattys)
Date: Fri, 3 Jun 2005 10:37:18 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] MapPoint location class
References: <000101c56845$dcc88c90$6c7aa8c0@ColbyM6805>
Message-ID: <02d801c56849$c0438940$0202a8c0@default>

----- Original Message -----
From: "John W. Colby" <jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com>
To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'"
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Friday, June 03, 2005 10:09 AM
Subject: [AccessD] MapPoint location class


> Paul,
>
> This code (see below this message) is a class clsLocation that I developed

> '****************************************
> 'The class code
> '****************************************

John,

Nice !
You could optionally add another recordset to populate
addresses that MapPoint can't find and present it at the
end of your routine.

----

Michael R. Mattys
Mattys MapLib for Microsoft MapPoint
http://www.mattysconsulting.com



From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com  Fri Jun  3 10:08:28 2005
From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (John W. Colby)
Date: Fri, 03 Jun 2005 11:08:28 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] MapPoint location class
In-Reply-To: <02d801c56849$c0438940$0202a8c0@default>
Message-ID: <000201c5684e$1bb80630$6c7aa8c0@ColbyM6805>

It is quite cool watching this populate the map with pushpins.  I just setup
a couple of timer classes to time how long it takes to do this.  To "map"
3686 agencies took 217 seconds for about 60 milliseconds per agency.  This
on an AMD64 3ghz laptop with 1.2g ram and a fast hard drive.

Remember though that this processed 3686 agencies but didn't resolve all of
those to a single location.  I didn't count the actual number resolved
(sigh) and pushpins created.

John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com 

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-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Michael R Mattys
Sent: Friday, June 03, 2005 10:37 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] MapPoint location class


----- Original Message -----
From: "John W. Colby" <jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com>
To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'"
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Friday, June 03, 2005 10:09 AM
Subject: [AccessD] MapPoint location class


> Paul,
>
> This code (see below this message) is a class clsLocation that I 
> developed

> '****************************************
> 'The class code
> '****************************************

John,

Nice !
You could optionally add another recordset to populate addresses that
MapPoint can't find and present it at the end of your routine.

----

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Mattys MapLib for Microsoft MapPoint http://www.mattysconsulting.com

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From cfoust at infostatsystems.com  Fri Jun  3 10:10:49 2005
From: cfoust at infostatsystems.com (Charlotte Foust)
Date: Fri, 3 Jun 2005 08:10:49 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Error Loading Project?
Message-ID: <E61FC1D4B1918244905B113C680BEA86873A6E@infoserver01.infostat.local>

I can't say that I agree.  No, I wouldn't go back to 2000, but I don't
think installing a later version on my machine should cause problems on
a machine running 2000 if I share an mdb with them.

Charlotte Foust


-----Original Message-----
From: Jim Lawrence [mailto:accessd at shaw.ca] 
Sent: Thursday, June 02, 2005 11:42 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Error Loading Project?


Charlotte: Good, honestly, who would ever go back... now the going back
option has been eliminated. :-)

It is a good plan.

Thanks
Jim

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Charlotte
Foust
Sent: Thursday, June 02, 2005 12:53 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Error Loading Project?

They don't break in XP and 2003, only the other direction.

Charlotte Foust


-----Original Message-----
From: Jim Lawrence [mailto:accessd at shaw.ca] 
Sent: Thursday, June 02, 2005 11:32 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Error Loading Project?


So what would be the best way to import Access into XP and 2003 without
major issues other than hand coding?

Jim 

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Charlotte
Foust
Sent: Thursday, June 02, 2005 11:25 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Error Loading Project?

2003 breaks it the same way as XP.

Charlotte Foust


-----Original Message-----
From: Francisco Tapia [mailto:fhtapia at gmail.com] 
Sent: Thursday, June 02, 2005 8:56 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Error Loading Project?


Not at this time, I Just ordered Access 2003, currenlty I have Office 97
& 2000 w/ Outlook  2003.

On 6/1/05, John W. Colby <jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com> wrote:
> Do you happen to have 2K and XP on the same machine?

> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Francisco 
> Tapia
> Sent: Wednesday, June 01, 2005 8:47 PM
> To: access-l at peach.ease.lsoft.com; Access Developers discussion and
problem
> solving
> Subject: [AccessD] Error Loading Project?
> 
> 
> Recently I've been plauged by this error:
> 
> I have 2 Access ADP's , the primary is the dev copy and I write in 
> this copy all my development code, once compiled, and tested I 
> "EXPORT" the new form or modified form to the Production .adp copy 
> this file used to be on the network, but due to the more recent 
> network errors that I was plauged w/ I decided to simply create a 
> folder on my pc called "build" and export to that folder instead, 
> everything had been working great, and in fact each copy compiles w/o 
> errors... but if I export from the dev on drive C to the build on 
> drive C I end up w/ an error on the build copy as "Error Loading 
> Project, disk or network error, continue loading?" if you click ok I 
> find that the module is empty.  If I then (while in the build copy), 
> IMPORT the same form, then I get a new Form1 classic import, I delete 
> the corrupted form and rename Form1 to Form and all is well again... 
> why can I not export anymore?
> 
-- 
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From carbonnb at gmail.com  Fri Jun  3 10:57:31 2005
From: carbonnb at gmail.com (Bryan Carbonnell)
Date: Fri, 3 Jun 2005 11:57:31 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Friday Joke Day
In-Reply-To: <A5B5AA20555F594BA7B6BD2048E49E4376F96A@m-niosh-5.niosh.cdc.gov>
References: <A5B5AA20555F594BA7B6BD2048E49E4376F96A@m-niosh-5.niosh.cdc.gov>
Message-ID: <e04a6c92050603085724dd61a7@mail.gmail.com>

On 6/3/05, Nicholson, Karen <cyx5 at cdc.gov> wrote:
> Just a reminder...

OK. Here you go.

An interesting article on new technology:

Article by Freelance Journalist  I. Reid

Introducing the new Bio-Optic Organized Knowledge device - BOOK.

BOOK is a revolutionary breakthrough in technology; no wires, no electric
circuits, no batteries, nothing to be connected or switched on.  It's easy
to use.  Even a child can operate it.

Compact and portable, it can be used anywhere - even sitting in an armchair
by the fire - yet it is powerful enough to hold as much as a CD-ROM.

BOOK is constructed of sequentially numbered sheets of paper (recyclable),
each capable of holding thousands of bits of information.  The pages are
locked together with one of two different custom devices, a BINDER, or
DOUBLE STITCH BINDING, which keep the sheets in their correct sequence.
Opaque Paper Technology (OPT) allows manufacturers to use both sides of the
sheet, doubling the information density.

Each sheet is scanned optically, registering information directly to your
brain.  A flick of the finger takes you to the next sheet.

BOOK never crashes, nor requires rebooting.  The 'browse' function allows
instant movement to any sheet, forward or backward, as one wishes.  Many
come with an 'index' feature, which pinpoints the exact location of any
selected information for instant retrieval.

Portable, durable and affordable, BOOK is being hailed as a precursor of a
new entertainment wave.  BOOK's appeal seems so certain that thousands of
content creators have committed to the platform and investor are reportedly
flocking to the medium.  Look for a flood of new BOOKs at your local
BOOKstore!

-- 
Bryan Carbonnell - carbonnb at gmail.com
Life's journey is not to arrive at the grave safely in a well
preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, totally worn out,
shouting "What a great ride!"


From tim at irwingreenhouses.com  Fri Jun  3 11:50:38 2005
From: tim at irwingreenhouses.com (Tim Thiessen)
Date: Fri, 03 Jun 2005 11:50:38 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Friday Joke Day
In-Reply-To: <A5B5AA20555F594BA7B6BD2048E49E4376F96A@m-niosh-5.niosh.cdc.gov>
Message-ID: <42A0440E.17229.B2A3FF6@localhost>

On 3 Jun 2005 at 7:34, Nicholson, Karen wrote:

> Just a reminder...


Have you been guilty of looking at others your own age and thinking, 
"Surely I cannot look that old?" Well, I was sitting in the waiting room 
for my first appointment with a new dentist. I noticed his DDS diploma, 
which bore his full name.

Suddenly, I remembered that a tall, handsome, dark-haired boy with the 
same name had been in my high school class some 40-odd years ago. Could 
he be the same guy that I had a secret crush on, way back then?

Upon seeing him, however, I quickly discarded any such thought. This 
balding, gray-haired man with the deeply lined face was way, way too old 
to have been my classmate...or could he?

After he examined my teeth, I asked him if he had attended Morgan Park 
High School. 

"Yes. Yes. I did...I'm a Morgan Mustang," he gleamed with pride.

"When did you graduate?" I asked.

He answered, "In 1959. Why do you ask?"

"You were in my class!" I exclaimed.

He looked at me closely...and that ugly, old, wrinkled jerk asked, 
"What did you teach?"


today's THOUGHT============================

Why is it that at class reunions you feel younger than everyone else 
looks? 



Tim Thiessen



From tinanfields at torchlake.com  Sat Jun  4 10:20:58 2005
From: tinanfields at torchlake.com (Tina Norris Fields)
Date: Sat, 04 Jun 2005 11:20:58 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Invitations DB Design Ideas
References: <001f01c5672c$d20f09b0$6401a8c0@laptop1>
Message-ID: <42A1C6DA.6020500@torchlake.com>

Joe,
My Mom died January 29, 2005.  She despised funerals, so my Dad planned 
a special celebration of life for her.  Not wanting to put our family 
members and friends at additional risk of travel accident (it being the 
middle of winter here in northern Michigan, he chose April 27 (their 
wedding anniversary) as the date for the celebration.  We had time to 
plan properly, thank those who had already contacted us, organize the 
invitation list, and handle the designation for memorial contributions. 
 I put the little database together.  As Dad thought of people that 
should be notified or invited, the list grew from an anticipated 50 or 
so to over 400 - I needed my database!

For my mother's memorial celebration mailing list I used two tables: 
 tblHouseholds and tblIndividuals.  That allowed me to put as many 
people in a household (or office, as the case often was) as I might 
need.  That was useful in running my "how many people might come" 
reports.  When I got a reply, I updated my HowMany field with the actual 
number given, to help with my "how many people are really coming" 
reports.  There was a special science education fund in our Three Lakes 
Association, begun by my family, and to which and memorial contributions 
were given (some came to us, others were sent directly to TLA, so I 
needed some way to keep track).

tbl Households
HH_ID
HH_Name  (to alphabetize my list)
HH_MailingName  (first line of the mailing label)
HH_Str_Address  (street address)
HH_POB_Address  (po box address)
HH_City
HH_State  (for US and Canada addresses)
HH_Zip  (for US addresses)
HH_PostCode  (for non-US addresses)
HH_Country
HH_Tel
HH_email
HH_Invite (ysn to invite this HH)
HH_Thank (ysn to thank this HH for previous communication)
HH_TLA  (ysn did this HH make a memorial contribution to TLA?)
HH_Coming  (ysn anyone in this HH coming?)
HH_HowMany (after reply to our invitation)
HH_Comments (can't get away from needing this in family celebration 
planning)

tblIndividuals
Ind_ID
HH_ID
IndLastName
IndFirstName

My father was completely amazed to have a mailing list of
1) those to receive only a notification
2) those to receive notification and invitation to the ceremony
3) those to receive notification, invitation, and thanks for earlier 
communication

He was further amazed to have up-to-date reports showing who had 
responded, who was coming (and how many), and who was not.  Many who 
were unable to come wanted Dad to know why, so that information was 
recorded in the Comments field.

I hope this is helpful to you,
Tina


Joe Hecht wrote:

>So my niece got engaged and I figure I better get my DB going soon.
> 
>Right now the database is one table,
> 
>These are typed in to readable and not names with spaces etc:
> 
>I rec num
>1st Person first Name
>1st person last name
>2cd person first name
>2cd person last name
>Address fields
>Adults Invitation Represents
>Children Invitation represents
>Contact phone
>Memo
>Source (Bride/Groom/Family/friend?)
>Invited Y/N
>Coming y/n
>Gift received Y/N
>Note Sent Y/N
> 
> 
> 
> Looking for ideas to normalize this
> 
>OK wise guys, I know no wedding is normal but...
> 
> 
> 
>Joe Hecht
>Los Angeles CA
> 
>  
>




From tinanfields at torchlake.com  Sat Jun  4 12:10:35 2005
From: tinanfields at torchlake.com (Tina Norris Fields)
Date: Sat, 04 Jun 2005 13:10:35 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] The Sleep Advisor - Version 5 - Call for Beta Testers
References: <010d01c56601$38f04cc0$6501a8c0@HAL9004>
Message-ID: <42A1E08B.7020903@torchlake.com>

Hi Rocky,

I downloaded it and completed it and sent off the email to 
rrnaiman at cox.net.  It was interesting and fun to do.  I'll be interested 
in following the "career" of this program.  

Best,
Tina



Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software wrote:

>Dear List:
>
>Version 5 of The Sleep Advisor is now ready for beta testing:
>
>All new graphics!
>Reorganized friendlier reporting!
>All new bugs!
>
>There is a Wise/Sagekey run-time download available at http://www.drnaiman.com/sleepad.php
>
>or for those of you who have Access 2003 you can email me off line and I'll send you just the mde.
>
>Although it runs on Windows 2000 I have noticed some problems that don't affect the operation or outcome of the program - just the esthetics (in particular, I have an embedded background graphic that doesn't display under W2K but does fine under WXP, go figure).
>
>For those who may not be aware, The Sleep Advisor is an expert system designed to diagnose the most common sleep problems - insomnias, apnea, narcolepsy, hypersomnia, etc., as well as identify a variety of sleep health related issues such as nocturia, bruxism, jet lag, shift work, anxiety disorders, bed and bedroom problems, etc.  The report includes a Guidebook to remedies and recommendations the contents of which are tailored to the user's responses and sleep health analysis.
>
>We still need a lot of beta testing to perfect the diagnostic engine.  In addition, any technical feedback I could get from this list would be of great value.  
>
>Hopefully for your time and efforts you'll receive some value from the reports.
>
>With many thanks in advance,
>
>Rocky Smolin
>Beach Access Software
>http://www.e-z-mrp.com
>858-259-4334
>
>  
>




From bchacc at san.rr.com  Sat Jun  4 12:26:20 2005
From: bchacc at san.rr.com (Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software)
Date: Sat, 4 Jun 2005 10:26:20 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] The Sleep Advisor - Version 5 - Call for Beta Testers
References: <010d01c56601$38f04cc0$6501a8c0@HAL9004>
	<42A1E08B.7020903@torchlake.com>
Message-ID: <012c01c5692a$864f3d10$6901a8c0@HAL9004>

Tina:

Many thanks for your time.  We should be sending you your report shortly. 
Hopefully it will have some useful info in it.

Best regards,


Rocky Smolin
Beach Access Software
http://www.e-z-mrp.com
858-259-4334

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Tina Norris Fields" <tinanfields at torchlake.com>
To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving" 
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Saturday, June 04, 2005 10:10 AM
Subject: Re: [AccessD] The Sleep Advisor - Version 5 - Call for Beta Testers


> Hi Rocky,
>
> I downloaded it and completed it and sent off the email to 
> rrnaiman at cox.net.  It was interesting and fun to do.  I'll be interested 
> in following the "career" of this program.
> Best,
> Tina
>
>
>
> Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software wrote:
>
>>Dear List:
>>
>>Version 5 of The Sleep Advisor is now ready for beta testing:
>>
>>All new graphics!
>>Reorganized friendlier reporting!
>>All new bugs!
>>
>>There is a Wise/Sagekey run-time download available at 
>>http://www.drnaiman.com/sleepad.php
>>
>>or for those of you who have Access 2003 you can email me off line and 
>>I'll send you just the mde.
>>
>>Although it runs on Windows 2000 I have noticed some problems that don't 
>>affect the operation or outcome of the program - just the esthetics (in 
>>particular, I have an embedded background graphic that doesn't display 
>>under W2K but does fine under WXP, go figure).
>>
>>For those who may not be aware, The Sleep Advisor is an expert system 
>>designed to diagnose the most common sleep problems - insomnias, apnea, 
>>narcolepsy, hypersomnia, etc., as well as identify a variety of sleep 
>>health related issues such as nocturia, bruxism, jet lag, shift work, 
>>anxiety disorders, bed and bedroom problems, etc.  The report includes a 
>>Guidebook to remedies and recommendations the contents of which are 
>>tailored to the user's responses and sleep health analysis.
>>
>>We still need a lot of beta testing to perfect the diagnostic engine.  In 
>>addition, any technical feedback I could get from this list would be of 
>>great value.
>>Hopefully for your time and efforts you'll receive some value from the 
>>reports.
>>
>>With many thanks in advance,
>>
>>Rocky Smolin
>>Beach Access Software
>>http://www.e-z-mrp.com
>>858-259-4334
>>
>>
>
>
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From kost36 at otenet.gr  Sat Jun  4 13:58:40 2005
From: kost36 at otenet.gr (Kostas Konstantinidis)
Date: Sat, 4 Jun 2005 21:58:40 +0300
Subject: [AccessD] Trying to Eliminate white space in a report it doesn't
	work
References: <71409e737f5144de8915a5d7a975fa34@christopherhawkins.com>
Message-ID: <012d01c56937$6c7ff4d0$0100a8c0@KOST36>

Hi all,
in a report I use the follown

=IIf(IsNull([Production]);"";[Production] & Chr(13) & Chr(10)) & 
IIf(IsNull([PROD_ADDRESS]);"";[PROD_ADDRESS] & Chr(13) & Chr(10)) & 
IIf(IsNull([Address2]);"";[Address2] & Chr(13) & Chr(10)) & 
IIf(IsNull([Communication]);"";[Communication]) & Chr(13) & Chr(10) & 
IIf(IsNull([PROD_E_MAIL]);"";[PROD_E_MAIL]) & Chr(13) & Chr(10)

but in case one of  the in between Production and Addess2 records are blank 
and PROD_E_MAIL is not, then it seems it doesn't eliminate the vertical 
space holding white space
am I doing something wrong or it needs to CanShrink the Details too?

I also tried the Microsoft's Public Function on 
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;299011 but the 
result remains the same

Thank's
Kostas Konstantinidis 




From mikedorism at verizon.net  Sat Jun  4 19:25:55 2005
From: mikedorism at verizon.net (Mike & Doris Manning)
Date: Sat, 04 Jun 2005 20:25:55 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Trying to Eliminate white space in a report it doesn't
	work
In-Reply-To: <012d01c56937$6c7ff4d0$0100a8c0@KOST36>
Message-ID: <000001c56965$250fe820$2f01a8c0@hargrove.internal>

You are correct that you do need to set the Details section to CanShrink =
Yes.

Doris Manning
Database Administrator
Hargrove Inc.
www.hargroveinc.com


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Kostas
Konstantinidis
Sent: Saturday, June 04, 2005 2:59 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: [AccessD] Trying to Eliminate white space in a report it doesn't
work


Hi all,
in a report I use the follown

=IIf(IsNull([Production]);"";[Production] & Chr(13) & Chr(10)) & 
IIf(IsNull([PROD_ADDRESS]);"";[PROD_ADDRESS] & Chr(13) & Chr(10)) & 
IIf(IsNull([Address2]);"";[Address2] & Chr(13) & Chr(10)) & 
IIf(IsNull([Communication]);"";[Communication]) & Chr(13) & Chr(10) & 
IIf(IsNull([PROD_E_MAIL]);"";[PROD_E_MAIL]) & Chr(13) & Chr(10)

but in case one of  the in between Production and Addess2 records are blank 
and PROD_E_MAIL is not, then it seems it doesn't eliminate the vertical 
space holding white space
am I doing something wrong or it needs to CanShrink the Details too?

I also tried the Microsoft's Public Function on 
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;299011 but the 
result remains the same

Thank's
Kostas Konstantinidis 


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From stuart at lexacorp.com.pg  Sat Jun  4 19:55:37 2005
From: stuart at lexacorp.com.pg (Stuart McLachlan)
Date: Sun, 05 Jun 2005 10:55:37 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] Trying to Eliminate white space in a report it doesn't
	work
In-Reply-To: <012d01c56937$6c7ff4d0$0100a8c0@KOST36>
Message-ID: <42A2DA29.8784.A7540D4@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>

On 4 Jun 2005 at 21:58, Kostas Konstantinidis wrote:

> Hi all,
> in a report I use the follown
> 
> =IIf(IsNull([Production]);"";[Production] & Chr(13) & Chr(10)) & 
> IIf(IsNull([PROD_ADDRESS]);"";[PROD_ADDRESS] & Chr(13) & Chr(10)) & 
> IIf(IsNull([Address2]);"";[Address2] & Chr(13) & Chr(10)) & 
> IIf(IsNull([Communication]);"";[Communication]) & Chr(13) & Chr(10) & 
> IIf(IsNull([PROD_E_MAIL]);"";[PROD_E_MAIL]) & Chr(13) & Chr(10)
> 
> but in case one of  the in between Production and Addess2 records are blank 
> and PROD_E_MAIL is not, then it seems it doesn't eliminate the vertical 
> space holding white space
> am I doing something wrong or it needs to CanShrink the Details too?
> 

There is a difference between Null  an empty string  ("").. If you are 
getting a vertical blank line, I'd suspect that one of the fields contains 
an empty string rather than a Null.

Try replacing IsNull with NZ([Production],"") = ""  




-- 
Stuart




From kost36 at otenet.gr  Sun Jun  5 01:59:52 2005
From: kost36 at otenet.gr (Kostas Konstantinidis)
Date: Sun, 5 Jun 2005 09:59:52 +0300
Subject: [AccessD] Trying to Eliminate white space in a report it
	doesn'twork
References: <42A2DA29.8784.A7540D4@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>
Message-ID: <006101c5699c$2cb6f690$07a1fea9@studio2>

Mike & Doris and Stuart thank's a lot for your responses
here is the query on which the report is based on

SELECT RT_AM_production.AM, IIf(IsNull([Producer]),"",[Producer]) & 
IIf(IsNull([person]),"",(" / " & [person])) AS Production, 
RT_AM_production.PROD_ADDRESS, IIf([PROD_CODE] Is Null,[town] & "" & 
[country],[PROD_CODE] & "" & [town] & "" & [country]) AS Address2, 
IIf(IsNull([PROD_TLE]),"",("Tel: " & [PROD_TLE])) & 
IIf(IsNull([PROD_FAX]),"",(" Fax: " & [PROD_FAX])) AS Communication, 
RT_AM_production.PROD_E_MAIL
FROM T_town RIGHT JOIN (T_producer RIGHT JOIN (T_person RIGHT JOIN 
(T_country RIGHT JOIN RT_AM_production ON T_country.ID_country = 
RT_AM_production.ID_PROD_COUNTRY) ON T_person.ID_person = 
RT_AM_production.ID_PROD_PERSON) ON T_producer.ID_producer = 
RT_AM_production.IDproducer) ON T_town.IDDIR_TOWN = 
RT_AM_production.ID_PROD_TOWN;

Running it seems to keep no blank spaces into the records.
The problem must be between fields Address2 and Communication but I cant 
understand the real reason

thank's
/ kostas


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Stuart McLachlan" <stuart at lexacorp.com.pg>
To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving" 
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Sunday, June 05, 2005 3:55 AM
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Trying to Eliminate white space in a report it 
doesn'twork


> On 4 Jun 2005 at 21:58, Kostas Konstantinidis wrote:
>
>> Hi all,
>> in a report I use the follown
>>
>> =IIf(IsNull([Production]);"";[Production] & Chr(13) & Chr(10)) &
>> IIf(IsNull([PROD_ADDRESS]);"";[PROD_ADDRESS] & Chr(13) & Chr(10)) &
>> IIf(IsNull([Address2]);"";[Address2] & Chr(13) & Chr(10)) &
>> IIf(IsNull([Communication]);"";[Communication]) & Chr(13) & Chr(10) &
>> IIf(IsNull([PROD_E_MAIL]);"";[PROD_E_MAIL]) & Chr(13) & Chr(10)
>>
>> but in case one of  the in between Production and Addess2 records are 
>> blank
>> and PROD_E_MAIL is not, then it seems it doesn't eliminate the vertical
>> space holding white space
>> am I doing something wrong or it needs to CanShrink the Details too?
>>
>
> There is a difference between Null  an empty string  ("").. If you are
> getting a vertical blank line, I'd suspect that one of the fields contains
> an empty string rather than a Null.
>
> Try replacing IsNull with NZ([Production],"") = ""
>
>
>
>
> -- 
> Stuart
>
>
> -- 
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>
> 




From Gustav at cactus.dk  Sun Jun  5 03:52:53 2005
From: Gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Sun, 05 Jun 2005 10:52:53 +0200
Subject: [AccessD] Trying to Eliminate white space in a report
	itdoesn'twork
Message-ID: <s2a2d995.014@cactus.dk>

Hi Kostas

Adjust it to:

SELECT 
  RT_AM_production.AM, 
  [Producer] & (" / " + [person]) AS Production, 
  RT_AM_production.PROD_ADDRESS, 
  ([PROD_CODE] + " ") & [town] & (" " + [country]) AS Address2, 
  ("Tel: " + [PROD_TLE]) & (" Fax: " + [PROD_FAX]) AS Communication, 
  RT_AM_production.PROD_E_MAIL
FROM 
  T_town 
RIGHT JOIN 
  (T_producer RIGHT JOIN 
    (T_person RIGHT JOIN 
      (T_country RIGHT JOIN 
        RT_AM_production 
        ON 
        T_country.ID_country = RT_AM_production.ID_PROD_COUNTRY) 
      ON 
      T_person.ID_person = RT_AM_production.ID_PROD_PERSON) 
    ON 
    T_producer.ID_producer = RT_AM_production.IDproducer) 
  ON 
  T_town.IDDIR_TOWN = RT_AM_production.ID_PROD_TOWN;

This will return Null values for empty fields, and now your code in the
report will work and can be reduced to this:

=([Production] + Chr(13) & Chr(10)) & 
([PROD_ADDRESS] + Chr(13) & Chr(10)) & 
([Address2] + & Chr(13) & Chr(10)) & 
([Communication] + Chr(13) & Chr(10)) & 
[PROD_E_MAIL]

The plus sign has the effect that (Null + somestring) is still Null.

/gustav
 
>>> kost36 at otenet.gr 06/05 8:59 am >>>
Mike & Doris and Stuart thank's a lot for your responses
here is the query on which the report is based on

SELECT RT_AM_production.AM, IIf(IsNull([Producer]),"",[Producer]) & 
IIf(IsNull([person]),"",(" / " & [person])) AS Production, 
RT_AM_production.PROD_ADDRESS, IIf([PROD_CODE] Is Null,[town] & "" & 
[country],[PROD_CODE] & "" & [town] & "" & [country]) AS Address2, 
IIf(IsNull([PROD_TLE]),"",("Tel: " & [PROD_TLE])) & 
IIf(IsNull([PROD_FAX]),"",(" Fax: " & [PROD_FAX])) AS Communication, 
RT_AM_production.PROD_E_MAIL
FROM T_town RIGHT JOIN (T_producer RIGHT JOIN (T_person RIGHT JOIN 
(T_country RIGHT JOIN RT_AM_production ON T_country.ID_country = 
RT_AM_production.ID_PROD_COUNTRY) ON T_person.ID_person = 
RT_AM_production.ID_PROD_PERSON) ON T_producer.ID_producer = 
RT_AM_production.IDproducer) ON T_town.IDDIR_TOWN = 
RT_AM_production.ID_PROD_TOWN;

Running it seems to keep no blank spaces into the records.
The problem must be between fields Address2 and Communication but I
cant 
understand the real reason

thank's
/ kostas


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Stuart McLachlan" <stuart at lexacorp.com.pg>
To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving" 
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Sunday, June 05, 2005 3:55 AM
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Trying to Eliminate white space in a report it 
doesn'twork


> On 4 Jun 2005 at 21:58, Kostas Konstantinidis wrote:
>
>> Hi all,
>> in a report I use the follown
>>
>> =IIf(IsNull([Production]);"";[Production] & Chr(13) & Chr(10)) &
>> IIf(IsNull([PROD_ADDRESS]);"";[PROD_ADDRESS] & Chr(13) & Chr(10)) &
>> IIf(IsNull([Address2]);"";[Address2] & Chr(13) & Chr(10)) &
>> IIf(IsNull([Communication]);"";[Communication]) & Chr(13) & Chr(10)
&
>> IIf(IsNull([PROD_E_MAIL]);"";[PROD_E_MAIL]) & Chr(13) & Chr(10)
>>
>> but in case one of  the in between Production and Addess2 records
are 
>> blank
>> and PROD_E_MAIL is not, then it seems it doesn't eliminate the
vertical
>> space holding white space
>> am I doing something wrong or it needs to CanShrink the Details
too?
>>
>
> There is a difference between Null  an empty string  ("").. If you
are
> getting a vertical blank line, I'd suspect that one of the fields
contains
> an empty string rather than a Null.
>
> Try replacing IsNull with NZ([Production],"") = ""



From kost36 at otenet.gr  Sun Jun  5 04:44:21 2005
From: kost36 at otenet.gr (Kostas Konstantinidis)
Date: Sun, 5 Jun 2005 12:44:21 +0300
Subject: [AccessD] Trying to Eliminate white space in a reportitdoesn'twork
References: <s2a2d995.014@cactus.dk>
Message-ID: <00bd01c569b3$268e9c70$07a1fea9@studio2>

Gustav thank's
now it works perfect

/kostas
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Gustav Brock" <Gustav at cactus.dk>
To: <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Sunday, June 05, 2005 11:52 AM
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Trying to Eliminate white space in a 
reportitdoesn'twork


> Hi Kostas
>
> Adjust it to:
>
> SELECT
>  RT_AM_production.AM,
>  [Producer] & (" / " + [person]) AS Production,
>  RT_AM_production.PROD_ADDRESS,
>  ([PROD_CODE] + " ") & [town] & (" " + [country]) AS Address2,
>  ("Tel: " + [PROD_TLE]) & (" Fax: " + [PROD_FAX]) AS Communication,
>  RT_AM_production.PROD_E_MAIL
> FROM
>  T_town
> RIGHT JOIN
>  (T_producer RIGHT JOIN
>    (T_person RIGHT JOIN
>      (T_country RIGHT JOIN
>        RT_AM_production
>        ON
>        T_country.ID_country = RT_AM_production.ID_PROD_COUNTRY)
>      ON
>      T_person.ID_person = RT_AM_production.ID_PROD_PERSON)
>    ON
>    T_producer.ID_producer = RT_AM_production.IDproducer)
>  ON
>  T_town.IDDIR_TOWN = RT_AM_production.ID_PROD_TOWN;
>
> This will return Null values for empty fields, and now your code in the
> report will work and can be reduced to this:
>
> =([Production] + Chr(13) & Chr(10)) &
> ([PROD_ADDRESS] + Chr(13) & Chr(10)) &
> ([Address2] + & Chr(13) & Chr(10)) &
> ([Communication] + Chr(13) & Chr(10)) &
> [PROD_E_MAIL]
>
> The plus sign has the effect that (Null + somestring) is still Null.
>
> /gustav
>
>>>> kost36 at otenet.gr 06/05 8:59 am >>>
> Mike & Doris and Stuart thank's a lot for your responses
> here is the query on which the report is based on
>
> SELECT RT_AM_production.AM, IIf(IsNull([Producer]),"",[Producer]) &
> IIf(IsNull([person]),"",(" / " & [person])) AS Production,
> RT_AM_production.PROD_ADDRESS, IIf([PROD_CODE] Is Null,[town] & "" &
> [country],[PROD_CODE] & "" & [town] & "" & [country]) AS Address2,
> IIf(IsNull([PROD_TLE]),"",("Tel: " & [PROD_TLE])) &
> IIf(IsNull([PROD_FAX]),"",(" Fax: " & [PROD_FAX])) AS Communication,
> RT_AM_production.PROD_E_MAIL
> FROM T_town RIGHT JOIN (T_producer RIGHT JOIN (T_person RIGHT JOIN
> (T_country RIGHT JOIN RT_AM_production ON T_country.ID_country =
> RT_AM_production.ID_PROD_COUNTRY) ON T_person.ID_person =
> RT_AM_production.ID_PROD_PERSON) ON T_producer.ID_producer =
> RT_AM_production.IDproducer) ON T_town.IDDIR_TOWN =
> RT_AM_production.ID_PROD_TOWN;
>
> Running it seems to keep no blank spaces into the records.
> The problem must be between fields Address2 and Communication but I
> cant
> understand the real reason
>
> thank's
> / kostas
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Stuart McLachlan" <stuart at lexacorp.com.pg>
> To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving"
> <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
> Sent: Sunday, June 05, 2005 3:55 AM
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] Trying to Eliminate white space in a report it
> doesn'twork
>
>
>> On 4 Jun 2005 at 21:58, Kostas Konstantinidis wrote:
>>
>>> Hi all,
>>> in a report I use the follown
>>>
>>> =IIf(IsNull([Production]);"";[Production] & Chr(13) & Chr(10)) &
>>> IIf(IsNull([PROD_ADDRESS]);"";[PROD_ADDRESS] & Chr(13) & Chr(10)) &
>>> IIf(IsNull([Address2]);"";[Address2] & Chr(13) & Chr(10)) &
>>> IIf(IsNull([Communication]);"";[Communication]) & Chr(13) & Chr(10)
> &
>>> IIf(IsNull([PROD_E_MAIL]);"";[PROD_E_MAIL]) & Chr(13) & Chr(10)
>>>
>>> but in case one of  the in between Production and Addess2 records
> are
>>> blank
>>> and PROD_E_MAIL is not, then it seems it doesn't eliminate the
> vertical
>>> space holding white space
>>> am I doing something wrong or it needs to CanShrink the Details
> too?
>>>
>>
>> There is a difference between Null  an empty string  ("").. If you
> are
>> getting a vertical blank line, I'd suspect that one of the fields
> contains
>> an empty string rather than a Null.
>>
>> Try replacing IsNull with NZ([Production],"") = ""
>
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>
> 




From bgeldart at verizon.net  Sun Jun  5 09:49:47 2005
From: bgeldart at verizon.net (Bob Geldart)
Date: Sun, 05 Jun 2005 10:49:47 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] The Sleep Advisor - Version 5 - Call for Beta Testers
In-Reply-To: <010d01c56601$38f04cc0$6501a8c0@HAL9004>
References: <010d01c56601$38f04cc0$6501a8c0@HAL9004>
Message-ID: <6.2.1.2.0.20050605104652.040f9d38@incoming.verizon.net>

Rocky,

If you are still looking for beta testers, I'll take a look. I've had sleep 
problems off and on for some time. Not as bad now as when I was in college.

My son has also had some problems, too, so I may have him take it too.

I'm currently using Access 2003, so the mde version might be better.

Thanks,
Bob

At 5/31/2005 12:53 PM, you wrote:
>Dear List:
>
>Version 5 of The Sleep Advisor is now ready for beta testing:
>
>There is a Wise/Sagekey run-time download available at 
>http://www.drnaiman.com/sleepad.php
>or for those of you who have Access 2003 you can email me off line and 
>I'll send you just the mde.





Bob Geldart             BGeldart at verizon.net
Maynard, MA


From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com  Sun Jun  5 16:24:04 2005
From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (John W. Colby)
Date: Sun, 05 Jun 2005 17:24:04 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Arrow keys in Excel
Message-ID: <000e01c56a14$eaafd810$6c7aa8c0@ColbyM6805>

Does anyone know why the arrow keys do not move the cursor in Excel?

John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com 

Contribute your unused CPU cycles to a good cause:
http://folding.stanford.edu/




From dwaters at usinternet.com  Sun Jun  5 16:37:29 2005
From: dwaters at usinternet.com (Dan Waters)
Date: Sun, 5 Jun 2005 16:37:29 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Arrow keys in Excel
In-Reply-To: <16642981.1118007213908.JavaMail.root@sniper15>
Message-ID: <000001c56a16$c6c0b530$0300a8c0@danwaters>

John,

I just tried it.  If you've double-clicked in a cell with text/numbers, then
the arrow keys do move the cursor.  Otherwise the arrow keys move your cell
selection.

Dan Waters


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of John W. Colby
Sent: Sunday, June 05, 2005 4:24 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] Arrow keys in Excel

Does anyone know why the arrow keys do not move the cursor in Excel?

John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com 

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From stuart at lexacorp.com.pg  Sun Jun  5 16:57:54 2005
From: stuart at lexacorp.com.pg (Stuart McLachlan)
Date: Mon, 06 Jun 2005 07:57:54 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] Arrow keys in Excel
In-Reply-To: <000e01c56a14$eaafd810$6c7aa8c0@ColbyM6805>
Message-ID: <42A40202.17252.EF8DBCA@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>

On 5 Jun 2005 at 17:24, John W. Colby wrote:

> Does anyone know why the arrow keys do not move the cursor in Excel?
> 

Because you've got "scroll lock" in?

-- 
Stuart




From relations at rescom.cc  Sun Jun  5 18:16:56 2005
From: relations at rescom.cc (Res-Com Environmental)
Date: Sun, 5 Jun 2005 16:16:56 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Another Commission Dilemma
Message-ID: <JIEKIIMEGLDLMJDHKMOLAEKNCEAA.relations@rescom.cc>

Dear List:

    We have another problem with the commission structure we are trying to
setup. The boss wants the current system where we enter customer and sales
info into the tblCustomers and tblOrders tables. The tblEmployees tracks
each employees sale. We also have a tblReturns for those orders that get
returned. The commission system we use now is in Excel and we would like to
integrate it into Access fully.
    I'm relatively new to database design and am trying to design a system
where each week the sales get totaled for each employee and they get setup
on a special commission structure where: 0-2 sales = no commission, 0-7 =
regular commission %, 8+ sales would get a different commission % as the
sales add up. This is because we have integrated a flat bonus amount ($50
for 8-10 sales, $100 for 10-12 sales, $150 for 10-15, etc, etc.) and we have
to change the commission % for each sale to accommodate this flat bonus
amount.
    However, there is also another variable. There is a special bonus if the
entire sales staff meets a goal that every salesperson who received 5+ sales
that week will receive. It goes $75 for 60-69, $100 for 70-79 and so forth.
    What I need to do is produce a system where it looks at both individual
sales and group sales to produce the total commission amount for each
salesperson on a weekly basis. After this I would need to integrate a
deduction system for order returns and random deductions for employee
tardiness, corrective action, etc.
    If anyone can help me with any part of the design for this project it
would be greatly appreciated.

Sincerely,

Adam Faulkner
Res-Com







From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com  Sun Jun  5 19:01:42 2005
From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (John W. Colby)
Date: Sun, 05 Jun 2005 20:01:42 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Arrow keys in Excel
In-Reply-To: <42A40202.17252.EF8DBCA@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>
Message-ID: <001101c56a2a$ef846890$6c7aa8c0@ColbyM6805>

Nope.  What it is doing is causing the spreadsheet to scroll up and down
instead of the cursor move to the next cell.

John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com 

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-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Stuart McLachlan
Sent: Sunday, June 05, 2005 5:58 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Arrow keys in Excel


On 5 Jun 2005 at 17:24, John W. Colby wrote:

> Does anyone know why the arrow keys do not move the cursor in Excel?
> 

Because you've got "scroll lock" in?

-- 
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From stuart at lexacorp.com.pg  Sun Jun  5 21:25:11 2005
From: stuart at lexacorp.com.pg (Stuart McLachlan)
Date: Mon, 06 Jun 2005 12:25:11 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] Arrow keys in Excel
In-Reply-To: <001101c56a2a$ef846890$6c7aa8c0@ColbyM6805>
References: <42A40202.17252.EF8DBCA@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>
Message-ID: <42A440A7.14795.FED8D07@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>

On 5 Jun 2005 at 20:01, John W. Colby wrote:

> Nope.  What it is doing is causing the spreadsheet to scroll up and down
> instead of the cursor move to the next cell.
> 

That's what happens when you have "Scroll Lock" turned on.  The Scroll Lock 
key on your keyboard is a toggle, just like Caps lock and Num Lock.

-- 
Stuart




From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com  Sun Jun  5 21:35:34 2005
From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (John W. Colby)
Date: Sun, 05 Jun 2005 22:35:34 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Arrow keys in Excel
In-Reply-To: <42A440A7.14795.FED8D07@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>
Message-ID: <001201c56a40$6d959d20$6c7aa8c0@ColbyM6805>

Yes, I understand that, but in this case it happens whether or not I have
scroll lock on.  This is my laptop and there is a blue led that tells me if
the scroll lock is on.  On or off, the arrow keys act the same.  I am
guessing there is some setting in Excel but I haven't found it.

John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com 

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-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Stuart McLachlan
Sent: Sunday, June 05, 2005 10:25 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Arrow keys in Excel


On 5 Jun 2005 at 20:01, John W. Colby wrote:

> Nope.  What it is doing is causing the spreadsheet to scroll up and 
> down instead of the cursor move to the next cell.
> 

That's what happens when you have "Scroll Lock" turned on.  The Scroll Lock 
key on your keyboard is a toggle, just like Caps lock and Num Lock.

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From stuart at lexacorp.com.pg  Sun Jun  5 22:18:49 2005
From: stuart at lexacorp.com.pg (Stuart McLachlan)
Date: Mon, 06 Jun 2005 13:18:49 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] Arrow keys in Excel
In-Reply-To: <001201c56a40$6d959d20$6c7aa8c0@ColbyM6805>
References: <42A440A7.14795.FED8D07@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>
Message-ID: <42A44D39.24659.101EA831@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>

On 5 Jun 2005 at 22:35, John W. Colby wrote:

> Yes, I understand that, but in this case it happens whether or not I have
> scroll lock on.  This is my laptop and there is a blue led that tells me if
> the scroll lock is on.  On or off, the arrow keys act the same.  I am
> guessing there is some setting in Excel but I haven't found it.
> 

AFAIK, it's purely based on the Scroll Lock state. Check whether the status 
bar at the bottom right of the Excel window has "SCRL" showing.  If so, I'd 
suspect a hardware problem with your Scroll Lock key.


-- 
Stuart




From jmhecht at earthlink.net  Sun Jun  5 22:23:54 2005
From: jmhecht at earthlink.net (Joe Hecht)
Date: Sun, 5 Jun 2005 20:23:54 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Is this a really bad Idea in my purchase order database?
Message-ID: <000001c56a47$2be64260$6401a8c0@laptop1>

I have a multiple table query where one field is dept id on my POmaster
table.
 
SELECT DISTINCTROW PurchaseOrders.PurchaseOrderID, Vendors.VendorName,
Vendors.Address, Vendors.City, Vendors.State, Vendors.Zip, Vendors.Phone,
Vendors.Fax, PurchaseOrders.DateOrdered, PurchaseOrders.DateRequired,
PurchaseOrders.ShippingMethodID, Locations.LocationName,
Locations.LocationAddress, Locations.LocationCity, Locations.LocationState,
Locations.LocationZip, Locations.LocationPhone, Locations.LocationFax,
[City] & " " & [State] & " " & [Zip] AS VendaddLine3, [LocationCity] & " " &
[LocationState] & " " & [LocationZip] AS LocationAddLine3, [Shipping
Methods].ShippingMethod, PurchaseOrders.Notes, PurchaseOrders.Initails,
Locations.LocationID, PurchaseOrders.Dept
 
FROM Locations INNER JOIN ([Shipping Methods] INNER JOIN (Vendors INNER JOIN
PurchaseOrders ON Vendors.VendorID = PurchaseOrders.VendorID) ON [Shipping
Methods].ShippingMethodID = PurchaseOrders.ShippingMethodID) ON
Locations.LocationID = PurchaseOrders.LocationID
 
WHERE
(((PurchaseOrders.PurchaseOrderID)=[Forms]![PurchaseOrders]![PurchaseOrderID
]));
 
The above works properly. If I try to add the department table, I get
ambigious outer join error. I can fix that by making a second query.
 
The department is a static item. Is it really bad or wrong to store the
actual department in the table rather than the Dept ID to reduce the number
of queries and generally make the DB work better? I expect to be here till
at least midnight PST if anyone has suggestions?
 
 
 
 
 
Joe Hecht
Los Angeles CA
 


From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com  Sun Jun  5 22:27:41 2005
From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (John W. Colby)
Date: Sun, 05 Jun 2005 23:27:41 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Arrow keys in Excel
In-Reply-To: <42A44D39.24659.101EA831@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>
Message-ID: <001301c56a47$b25def50$6c7aa8c0@ColbyM6805>

ROTFL.  THANKS.  I never knew the scroll lock indicator was there in Excel,
and yes, it WAS on, and it turns out I need to tap the function key WITHOUT
the FN shift key.  All is fine now. 

I have a 4 year old boy who is probably the culprit here. 

Thanks!

John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com 

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-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Stuart McLachlan
Sent: Sunday, June 05, 2005 11:19 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Arrow keys in Excel


On 5 Jun 2005 at 22:35, John W. Colby wrote:

> Yes, I understand that, but in this case it happens whether or not I 
> have scroll lock on.  This is my laptop and there is a blue led that 
> tells me if the scroll lock is on.  On or off, the arrow keys act the 
> same.  I am guessing there is some setting in Excel but I haven't 
> found it.
> 

AFAIK, it's purely based on the Scroll Lock state. Check whether the status 
bar at the bottom right of the Excel window has "SCRL" showing.  If so, I'd 
suspect a hardware problem with your Scroll Lock key.


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From jmhecht at earthlink.net  Sun Jun  5 22:32:24 2005
From: jmhecht at earthlink.net (Joe Hecht)
Date: Sun, 5 Jun 2005 20:32:24 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Arrow keys in Excel
In-Reply-To: <001301c56a47$b25def50$6c7aa8c0@ColbyM6805>
Message-ID: <000501c56a48$5bcd54e0$6401a8c0@laptop1>

Sure John, 
Blame some one else ; )

Joe Hecht
Los Angeles CA

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of John W. Colby
Sent: Sunday, June 05, 2005 8:28 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Arrow keys in Excel

ROTFL.  THANKS.  I never knew the scroll lock indicator was there in Excel,
and yes, it WAS on, and it turns out I need to tap the function key WITHOUT
the FN shift key.  All is fine now. 

I have a 4 year old boy who is probably the culprit here. 

Thanks!

John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com 

Contribute your unused CPU cycles to a good cause:
http://folding.stanford.edu/

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Stuart McLachlan
Sent: Sunday, June 05, 2005 11:19 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Arrow keys in Excel


On 5 Jun 2005 at 22:35, John W. Colby wrote:

> Yes, I understand that, but in this case it happens whether or not I 
> have scroll lock on.  This is my laptop and there is a blue led that 
> tells me if the scroll lock is on.  On or off, the arrow keys act the 
> same.  I am guessing there is some setting in Excel but I haven't 
> found it.
> 

AFAIK, it's purely based on the Scroll Lock state. Check whether the status 
bar at the bottom right of the Excel window has "SCRL" showing.  If so, I'd 
suspect a hardware problem with your Scroll Lock key.


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From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com  Sun Jun  5 22:49:49 2005
From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (John W. Colby)
Date: Sun, 05 Jun 2005 23:49:49 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Arrow keys in Excel
In-Reply-To: <000501c56a48$5bcd54e0$6401a8c0@laptop1>
Message-ID: <001401c56a4a$c9c6f2b0$6c7aa8c0@ColbyM6805>

LOL.  Hey, when you have a 4 year old boy, it is easy to believe.  ;-)

John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com 

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-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Joe Hecht
Sent: Sunday, June 05, 2005 11:32 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Arrow keys in Excel


Sure John, 
Blame some one else ; )

Joe Hecht
Los Angeles CA

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of John W. Colby
Sent: Sunday, June 05, 2005 8:28 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Arrow keys in Excel

ROTFL.  THANKS.  I never knew the scroll lock indicator was there in Excel,
and yes, it WAS on, and it turns out I need to tap the function key WITHOUT
the FN shift key.  All is fine now. 

I have a 4 year old boy who is probably the culprit here. 

Thanks!

John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com 

Contribute your unused CPU cycles to a good cause:
http://folding.stanford.edu/

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Stuart McLachlan
Sent: Sunday, June 05, 2005 11:19 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Arrow keys in Excel


On 5 Jun 2005 at 22:35, John W. Colby wrote:

> Yes, I understand that, but in this case it happens whether or not I
> have scroll lock on.  This is my laptop and there is a blue led that 
> tells me if the scroll lock is on.  On or off, the arrow keys act the 
> same.  I am guessing there is some setting in Excel but I haven't 
> found it.
> 

AFAIK, it's purely based on the Scroll Lock state. Check whether the status 
bar at the bottom right of the Excel window has "SCRL" showing.  If so, I'd 
suspect a hardware problem with your Scroll Lock key.


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From jmhecht at earthlink.net  Sun Jun  5 22:52:43 2005
From: jmhecht at earthlink.net (Joe Hecht)
Date: Sun, 5 Jun 2005 20:52:43 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Arrow keys in Excel
In-Reply-To: <001401c56a4a$c9c6f2b0$6c7aa8c0@ColbyM6805>
Message-ID: <000601c56a4b$3260bfe0$6401a8c0@laptop1>

I have me to louse up my work. I do need any help. 
See my other post?

Joe Hecht
Los Angeles CA

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of John W. Colby
Sent: Sunday, June 05, 2005 8:50 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Arrow keys in Excel

LOL.  Hey, when you have a 4 year old boy, it is easy to believe.  ;-)

John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com 

Contribute your unused CPU cycles to a good cause:
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-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Joe Hecht
Sent: Sunday, June 05, 2005 11:32 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Arrow keys in Excel


Sure John, 
Blame some one else ; )

Joe Hecht
Los Angeles CA

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of John W. Colby
Sent: Sunday, June 05, 2005 8:28 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Arrow keys in Excel

ROTFL.  THANKS.  I never knew the scroll lock indicator was there in Excel,
and yes, it WAS on, and it turns out I need to tap the function key WITHOUT
the FN shift key.  All is fine now. 

I have a 4 year old boy who is probably the culprit here. 

Thanks!

John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com 

Contribute your unused CPU cycles to a good cause:
http://folding.stanford.edu/

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Stuart McLachlan
Sent: Sunday, June 05, 2005 11:19 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Arrow keys in Excel


On 5 Jun 2005 at 22:35, John W. Colby wrote:

> Yes, I understand that, but in this case it happens whether or not I
> have scroll lock on.  This is my laptop and there is a blue led that 
> tells me if the scroll lock is on.  On or off, the arrow keys act the 
> same.  I am guessing there is some setting in Excel but I haven't 
> found it.
> 

AFAIK, it's purely based on the Scroll Lock state. Check whether the status 
bar at the bottom right of the Excel window has "SCRL" showing.  If so, I'd 
suspect a hardware problem with your Scroll Lock key.


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From jmhecht at earthlink.net  Sun Jun  5 23:01:11 2005
From: jmhecht at earthlink.net (Joe Hecht)
Date: Sun, 5 Jun 2005 21:01:11 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Arrow keys in Excel
In-Reply-To: <001401c56a4a$c9c6f2b0$6c7aa8c0@ColbyM6805>
Message-ID: <000c01c56a4c$60df1aa0$6401a8c0@laptop1>

Besides, I a missing half the code for one of those : (

Joe Hecht
Los Angeles CA

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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of John W. Colby
Sent: Sunday, June 05, 2005 8:50 PM
To: access at joe2.endjunk.com; 'Access Developers discussion and problem
solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Arrow keys in Excel

LOL.  Hey, when you have a 4 year old boy, it is easy to believe.  ;-)

John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com 

Contribute your unused CPU cycles to a good cause:
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-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Joe Hecht
Sent: Sunday, June 05, 2005 11:32 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Arrow keys in Excel


Sure John, 
Blame some one else ; )

Joe Hecht
Los Angeles CA

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of John W. Colby
Sent: Sunday, June 05, 2005 8:28 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Arrow keys in Excel

ROTFL.  THANKS.  I never knew the scroll lock indicator was there in Excel,
and yes, it WAS on, and it turns out I need to tap the function key WITHOUT
the FN shift key.  All is fine now. 

I have a 4 year old boy who is probably the culprit here. 

Thanks!

John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com 

Contribute your unused CPU cycles to a good cause:
http://folding.stanford.edu/

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Stuart McLachlan
Sent: Sunday, June 05, 2005 11:19 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Arrow keys in Excel


On 5 Jun 2005 at 22:35, John W. Colby wrote:

> Yes, I understand that, but in this case it happens whether or not I
> have scroll lock on.  This is my laptop and there is a blue led that 
> tells me if the scroll lock is on.  On or off, the arrow keys act the 
> same.  I am guessing there is some setting in Excel but I haven't 
> found it.
> 

AFAIK, it's purely based on the Scroll Lock state. Check whether the status 
bar at the bottom right of the Excel window has "SCRL" showing.  If so, I'd 
suspect a hardware problem with your Scroll Lock key.


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From jmhecht at earthlink.net  Sun Jun  5 23:22:08 2005
From: jmhecht at earthlink.net (Joe Hecht)
Date: Sun, 5 Jun 2005 21:22:08 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Anyone out there
Message-ID: <001201c56a4f$4e3b58c0$6401a8c0@laptop1>

It is 9:20 here in LA Sunday night.
 
Anyone out there? I am deep trouble with a database.
 
Joe Hecht
Los Angeles CA
 


From martyconnelly at shaw.ca  Sun Jun  5 23:55:44 2005
From: martyconnelly at shaw.ca (MartyConnelly)
Date: Sun, 05 Jun 2005 21:55:44 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Anyone out there
References: <001201c56a4f$4e3b58c0$6401a8c0@laptop1>
Message-ID: <42A3D750.1070105@shaw.ca>

Nobody here but us chickens.

Joe Hecht wrote:

>It is 9:20 here in LA Sunday night.
> 
>Anyone out there? I am deep trouble with a database.
> 
>Joe Hecht
>Los Angeles CA
> 
>  
>

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From bchacc at san.rr.com  Mon Jun  6 00:01:24 2005
From: bchacc at san.rr.com (Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software)
Date: Sun, 5 Jun 2005 22:01:24 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] For Charles Hise - Fw: Returned mail: see transcript for
	details
Message-ID: <01ee01c56a54$ca09e390$6901a8c0@HAL9004>

Charles Hise:

I'm trying to send you the Sleep Advisor but your address seems to be hosed. 
Do you have another one?

Rocky

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To: <bchacc at san.rr.com>
Sent: Sunday, June 05, 2005 8:39 PM
Subject: Returned mail: see transcript for details


> The original message was received at Fri, 3 Jun 2005 18:23:44 -0700 (PDT)
> from cpe-24-25-217-158.san.res.rr.com [24.25.217.158]
>
>   ----- The following addresses had permanent fatal errors -----
> <chise at charterr.net>
>
>   ----- Transcript of session follows -----
> <chise at charterr.net>... Deferred: Connection refused by charterr.net.
> Message could not be delivered for 2 days
> Message will be deleted from queue
>


--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


> Received: from HAL9004 (cpe-24-25-217-158.san.res.rr.com [24.25.217.158])
> by ms-smtp-03-eri0.socal.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with SMTP id 
> j541NigQ013736
> for <chise at charterr.net>; Fri, 3 Jun 2005 18:23:44 -0700 (PDT)
> Message-ID: <07ce01c568a4$0bea31f0$6901a8c0 at HAL9004>
> From: "Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software" <bchacc at san.rr.com>
> To: <chise at charterr.net>
> Subject: Fw: Returned mail: see transcript for details
> Date: Fri, 3 Jun 2005 18:23:42 -0700
> MIME-Version: 1.0
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> 

From jmhecht at earthlink.net  Mon Jun  6 00:03:25 2005
From: jmhecht at earthlink.net (Joe Hecht)
Date: Sun, 5 Jun 2005 22:03:25 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Anyone out there
In-Reply-To: <42A3D750.1070105@shaw.ca>
Message-ID: <000001c56a55$12822290$6401a8c0@laptop1>

Marty,

You do have to help me. I have one tuff problem and one that is probably
easy.

TIA

Joe Hecht
Los Angeles CA

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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of MartyConnelly
Sent: Sunday, June 05, 2005 9:56 PM
To: access at joe2.endjunk.com; Access Developers discussion and problem
solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Anyone out there

Nobody here but us chickens.

Joe Hecht wrote:

>It is 9:20 here in LA Sunday night.
> 
>Anyone out there? I am deep trouble with a database.
> 
>Joe Hecht
>Los Angeles CA
> 
>  
>

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From jmhecht at earthlink.net  Mon Jun  6 00:09:31 2005
From: jmhecht at earthlink.net (Joe Hecht)
Date: Sun, 5 Jun 2005 22:09:31 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Anyone out there
In-Reply-To: <000001c56a55$12822290$6401a8c0@laptop1>
Message-ID: <001201c56a55$ecdcb9a0$6401a8c0@laptop1>

That was well butchered.

Do you have time to help me tonight?

Joe Hecht
Los Angeles CA

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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Joe Hecht
Sent: Sunday, June 05, 2005 10:03 PM
To: access at joe2.endjunk.com; 'Access Developers discussion and problem
solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Anyone out there

Marty,

You do have to help me. I have one tuff problem and one that is probably
easy.

TIA

Joe Hecht
Los Angeles CA

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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of MartyConnelly
Sent: Sunday, June 05, 2005 9:56 PM
To: access at joe2.endjunk.com; Access Developers discussion and problem
solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Anyone out there

Nobody here but us chickens.

Joe Hecht wrote:

>It is 9:20 here in LA Sunday night.
> 
>Anyone out there? I am deep trouble with a database.
> 
>Joe Hecht
>Los Angeles CA
> 
>  
>

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From jeff at boyes.net  Mon Jun  6 00:13:12 2005
From: jeff at boyes.net (Jeff)
Date: Sun, 5 Jun 2005 23:13:12 -0600
Subject: [AccessD] Anyone out there
In-Reply-To: <001201c56a4f$4e3b58c0$6401a8c0@laptop1>
Message-ID: <200506060513.j565D7s01849@databaseadvisors.com>

Joe...

11:15 in Colorado right now...What's the problem?

Jeff
 

-----Original Message-----
From: Joe Hecht [mailto:jmhecht at earthlink.net] 
Sent: Sunday, June 05, 2005 10:22 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] Anyone out there

It is 9:20 here in LA Sunday night.
 
Anyone out there? I am deep trouble with a database.
 
Joe Hecht
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From jmhecht at earthlink.net  Mon Jun  6 00:26:35 2005
From: jmhecht at earthlink.net (Joe Hecht)
Date: Sun, 5 Jun 2005 22:26:35 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Anyone out there
In-Reply-To: <200506060513.j565D7s01849@databaseadvisors.com>
Message-ID: <001301c56a58$4efd0c00$6401a8c0@laptop1>

Thanks Jeff

This is the sequence

I open a form to show a Purchase order. It shows the first record. I hit the
print preview and all is ok.

I go to other records and the report shows multiple errors and missing data.
I am going nuts trying to get it.

Any thoughts?

Joe Hecht
Los Angeles CA

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jeff
Sent: Sunday, June 05, 2005 10:13 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Anyone out there

Joe...

11:15 in Colorado right now...What's the problem?

Jeff
 

-----Original Message-----
From: Joe Hecht [mailto:jmhecht at earthlink.net] 
Sent: Sunday, June 05, 2005 10:22 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] Anyone out there

It is 9:20 here in LA Sunday night.
 
Anyone out there? I am deep trouble with a database.
 
Joe Hecht
Los Angeles CA
 
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From kost36 at otenet.gr  Mon Jun  6 01:12:42 2005
From: kost36 at otenet.gr (Kostas Konstantinidis)
Date: Mon, 6 Jun 2005 09:12:42 +0300
Subject: [AccessD] Separate selected records from a table
References: <001201c56a4f$4e3b58c0$6401a8c0@laptop1> <42A3D750.1070105@shaw.ca>
Message-ID: <00a301c56a5e$bffd8460$07a1fea9@studio2>

Hi again :)
in a table there are names and in some cases there are two names with a "," 
between them
What I want to do is to separate only the records keeping the second name.

I tried the follown
1st: Right$([director];Len([director])-InStr(1;[director];","))
2nd: Left$([director];InStr(1;[director];",")-1)

but it returns with 2 problems
1. in 2nd (Left$) #ERROR for the blank records
2. in 1st (Right$) a space " " in the begginning of the separated records

thank's
/kostas 




From martyconnelly at shaw.ca  Mon Jun  6 01:13:35 2005
From: martyconnelly at shaw.ca (MartyConnelly)
Date: Sun, 05 Jun 2005 23:13:35 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Anyone out there
References: <001301c56a58$4efd0c00$6401a8c0@laptop1>
Message-ID: <42A3E98F.90906@shaw.ca>

Look at the query feeding the report,  if you can't see anything obvious 
try a full decompile

Do a backup before the /decompile.

1a) Create a shortcut with the following
"C:\Program Files\Microsoft Office\Office\MSACCESS.EXE" "d:\My 
Documents\access\mayapp.mdb" /decompile
As appropriate for your environment of course.  Note that if your path 
to your MDB contains a space it must be enclosed in double quotes just 
as the MSACCESS.EXE component.   You can create a short cut but right 
clicking in the directory of your choice, highlighting new and creating

or

1b) Create a one line .bat or .cmd line with the above text in it it 
using notepad.  

Hint:  Right click in your directory of choice, highlight new and select 
Text Document.  You will be presented with a new file named "New Text 
Document.txt" or similar.   Rename that file to something like 
"decompile.bat".   Then right click that file and select edit.  Notepad 
should then run opening up that file.

2) Click on the short cut or click on the .bat or .cmd file and, in 
Access 97, you'll get the message "... has converted the code in ... to 
your current version of Visual Basic". This message does not appear in 
Access 2000 or newer.  Hold the shift key down when you click on Okay so 
the MDBs autoexec macro won't execute or the start-up form will not be 
opened.  If you have any class modules exit the MDB and re-enter it.  
This will keep the class modules intact.

3) Now compact the MDB to clean out the old VBA code..

4) Hit Ctrl+G to open the debug/immediate window or go into any module 
and click on Debug.  If Access 97 click on Compile and Save All Modules. 
If Access 2000 or newer click on Compile.   Compiling is particularly 
important to see if there were any problems and for performance reasons. 

5) Then compact again.



Joe Hecht wrote:

>Thanks Jeff
>
>This is the sequence
>
>I open a form to show a Purchase order. It shows the first record. I hit the
>print preview and all is ok.
>
>I go to other records and the report shows multiple errors and missing data.
>I am going nuts trying to get it.
>
>Any thoughts?
>
>Joe Hecht
>Los Angeles CA
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jeff
>Sent: Sunday, June 05, 2005 10:13 PM
>To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
>Subject: RE: [AccessD] Anyone out there
>
>Joe...
>
>11:15 in Colorado right now...What's the problem?
>
>Jeff
> 
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Joe Hecht [mailto:jmhecht at earthlink.net] 
>Sent: Sunday, June 05, 2005 10:22 PM
>To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
>Subject: [AccessD] Anyone out there
>
>It is 9:20 here in LA Sunday night.
> 
>Anyone out there? I am deep trouble with a database.
> 
>Joe Hecht
>Los Angeles CA
> 
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>
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From Bruce.Bruen at railcorp.nsw.gov.au  Mon Jun  6 01:28:30 2005
From: Bruce.Bruen at railcorp.nsw.gov.au (Bruen, Bruce)
Date: Mon, 6 Jun 2005 16:28:30 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] Separate selected records from a table
Message-ID: <F2BE8EAB3EA585418337B71BCE6F3BF304EBA8@msmet100.rail.nsw.gov.au>

Try

IIf(InStr(1,[names],",")<>0,Trim(Right$([names],Len([names])-InStr(1,[na
mes],","))),Null)

(replacing "names" with "director")

N.B This is probably not optimal, I just juggled yours to make it work.


Here's a sample:
Input names				returned value
ahab					<<null>>
bhab, chab				chab
dhab,ehab				ehab
fhab, ghab ihab			ghab ihab
jhab khab,lhab mhab		lhab mhab
ohab phab, qhab			qhab
rhab,					<<null>>

Hth
Bruce Bruen

P.s. hello guys - long time no see!

  

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Kostas
Konstantinidis
Sent: Monday, 6 June 2005 4:13 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: [AccessD] Separate selected records from a table

Hi again :)
in a table there are names and in some cases there are two names with a
"," 
between them
What I want to do is to separate only the records keeping the second
name.

I tried the follown
1st: Right$([director];Len([director])-InStr(1;[director];","))
2nd: Left$([director];InStr(1;[director];",")-1)

but it returns with 2 problems
1. in 2nd (Left$) #ERROR for the blank records 2. in 1st (Right$) a
space " " in the begginning of the separated records

thank's
/kostas 


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From jmhecht at earthlink.net  Mon Jun  6 01:44:32 2005
From: jmhecht at earthlink.net (Joe Hecht)
Date: Sun, 5 Jun 2005 23:44:32 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Anyone out there
In-Reply-To: <42A3E98F.90906@shaw.ca>
Message-ID: <000001c56a63$329661f0$6401a8c0@laptop1>

If I make.bat use the quotes?

Joe Hecht
Los Angeles CA

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of MartyConnelly
Sent: Sunday, June 05, 2005 11:14 PM
To: access at joe2.endjunk.com; Access Developers discussion and problem
solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Anyone out there

Look at the query feeding the report,  if you can't see anything obvious 
try a full decompile

Do a backup before the /decompile.

1a) Create a shortcut with the following
"C:\Program Files\Microsoft Office\Office\MSACCESS.EXE" "d:\My 
Documents\access\mayapp.mdb" /decompile
As appropriate for your environment of course.  Note that if your path 
to your MDB contains a space it must be enclosed in double quotes just 
as the MSACCESS.EXE component.   You can create a short cut but right 
clicking in the directory of your choice, highlighting new and creating

or

1b) Create a one line .bat or .cmd line with the above text in it it 
using notepad.  

Hint:  Right click in your directory of choice, highlight new and select 
Text Document.  You will be presented with a new file named "New Text 
Document.txt" or similar.   Rename that file to something like 
"decompile.bat".   Then right click that file and select edit.  Notepad 
should then run opening up that file.

2) Click on the short cut or click on the .bat or .cmd file and, in 
Access 97, you'll get the message "... has converted the code in ... to 
your current version of Visual Basic". This message does not appear in 
Access 2000 or newer.  Hold the shift key down when you click on Okay so 
the MDBs autoexec macro won't execute or the start-up form will not be 
opened.  If you have any class modules exit the MDB and re-enter it.  
This will keep the class modules intact.

3) Now compact the MDB to clean out the old VBA code..

4) Hit Ctrl+G to open the debug/immediate window or go into any module 
and click on Debug.  If Access 97 click on Compile and Save All Modules. 
If Access 2000 or newer click on Compile.   Compiling is particularly 
important to see if there were any problems and for performance reasons. 

5) Then compact again.



Joe Hecht wrote:

>Thanks Jeff
>
>This is the sequence
>
>I open a form to show a Purchase order. It shows the first record. I hit
the
>print preview and all is ok.
>
>I go to other records and the report shows multiple errors and missing
data.
>I am going nuts trying to get it.
>
>Any thoughts?
>
>Joe Hecht
>Los Angeles CA
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jeff
>Sent: Sunday, June 05, 2005 10:13 PM
>To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
>Subject: RE: [AccessD] Anyone out there
>
>Joe...
>
>11:15 in Colorado right now...What's the problem?
>
>Jeff
> 
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Joe Hecht [mailto:jmhecht at earthlink.net] 
>Sent: Sunday, June 05, 2005 10:22 PM
>To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
>Subject: [AccessD] Anyone out there
>
>It is 9:20 here in LA Sunday night.
> 
>Anyone out there? I am deep trouble with a database.
> 
>Joe Hecht
>Los Angeles CA
> 
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>
>
>
>  
>

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From kost36 at otenet.gr  Mon Jun  6 01:54:19 2005
From: kost36 at otenet.gr (Kostas Konstantinidis)
Date: Mon, 6 Jun 2005 09:54:19 +0300
Subject: [AccessD] Separate selected records from a table
References: <F2BE8EAB3EA585418337B71BCE6F3BF304EBA8@msmet100.rail.nsw.gov.au>
Message-ID: <000801c56a64$903e6810$07a1fea9@studio2>

Hi Bruce,
thank's for your quickly response
the 1st of my questions was really solved with your help

/kostas


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Bruen, Bruce" <Bruce.Bruen at railcorp.nsw.gov.au>
To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving" 
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Monday, June 06, 2005 9:28 AM
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Separate selected records from a table


> Try
>
> IIf(InStr(1,[names],",")<>0,Trim(Right$([names],Len([names])-InStr(1,[na
> mes],","))),Null)
>
> (replacing "names" with "director")
>
> N.B This is probably not optimal, I just juggled yours to make it work.
>
>
> Here's a sample:
> Input names returned value
> ahab <<null>>
> bhab, chab chab
> dhab,ehab ehab
> fhab, ghab ihab ghab ihab
> jhab khab,lhab mhab lhab mhab
> ohab phab, qhab qhab
> rhab, <<null>>
>
> Hth
> Bruce Bruen
>
> P.s. hello guys - long time no see!
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Kostas
> Konstantinidis
> Sent: Monday, 6 June 2005 4:13 PM
> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> Subject: [AccessD] Separate selected records from a table
>
> Hi again :)
> in a table there are names and in some cases there are two names with a
> ","
> between them
> What I want to do is to separate only the records keeping the second
> name.
>
> I tried the follown
> 1st: Right$([director];Len([director])-InStr(1;[director];","))
> 2nd: Left$([director];InStr(1;[director];",")-1)
>
> but it returns with 2 problems
> 1. in 2nd (Left$) #ERROR for the blank records 2. in 1st (Right$) a
> space " " in the begginning of the separated records
>
> thank's
> /kostas
>
>
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From kost36 at otenet.gr  Mon Jun  6 04:42:47 2005
From: kost36 at otenet.gr (Kostas Konstantinidis)
Date: Mon, 6 Jun 2005 12:42:47 +0300
Subject: [AccessD] Separate selected records from a table
References: <F2BE8EAB3EA585418337B71BCE6F3BF304EBA8@msmet100.rail.nsw.gov.au>
	<000801c56a64$903e6810$07a1fea9@studio2>
Message-ID: <005701c56a7c$19173f10$07a1fea9@studio2>

Hi Bruce again,

and how to keep the left$ without the ","

thank's
/kostas


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Kostas Konstantinidis" <kost36 at otenet.gr>
To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving" 
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Monday, June 06, 2005 9:54 AM
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Separate selected records from a table


> Hi Bruce,
> thank's for your quickly response
> the 1st of my questions was really solved with your help
>
> /kostas
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Bruen, Bruce" <Bruce.Bruen at railcorp.nsw.gov.au>
> To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving" 
> <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
> Sent: Monday, June 06, 2005 9:28 AM
> Subject: RE: [AccessD] Separate selected records from a table
>
>
>> Try
>>
>> IIf(InStr(1,[names],",")<>0,Trim(Right$([names],Len([names])-InStr(1,[na
>> mes],","))),Null)
>>
>> (replacing "names" with "director")
>>
>> N.B This is probably not optimal, I just juggled yours to make it work.
>>
>>
>> Here's a sample:
>> Input names returned value
>> ahab <<null>>
>> bhab, chab chab
>> dhab,ehab ehab
>> fhab, ghab ihab ghab ihab
>> jhab khab,lhab mhab lhab mhab
>> ohab phab, qhab qhab
>> rhab, <<null>>
>>
>> Hth
>> Bruce Bruen
>>
>> P.s. hello guys - long time no see!
>>
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Kostas
>> Konstantinidis
>> Sent: Monday, 6 June 2005 4:13 PM
>> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
>> Subject: [AccessD] Separate selected records from a table
>>
>> Hi again :)
>> in a table there are names and in some cases there are two names with a
>> ","
>> between them
>> What I want to do is to separate only the records keeping the second
>> name.
>>
>> I tried the follown
>> 1st: Right$([director];Len([director])-InStr(1;[director];","))
>> 2nd: Left$([director];InStr(1;[director];",")-1)
>>
>> but it returns with 2 problems
>> 1. in 2nd (Left$) #ERROR for the blank records 2. in 1st (Right$) a
>> space " " in the begginning of the separated records
>>
>> thank's
>> /kostas
>>
>>
>> --
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From vrm at tim-cms.com  Mon Jun  6 05:47:03 2005
From: vrm at tim-cms.com (Marcel Vreuls)
Date: Mon, 6 Jun 2005 12:47:03 +0200
Subject: [AccessD] Support Solutions
In-Reply-To: <20050602125051.75972.qmail@web31605.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <20050606064931.SM04100@ACERVREULS>

Hi Group,

I am wondering what support solutions you are using at this moment and which
you can advice me. I browsed the net for 20 minutes and found a ziljoen
applications which suggest all work perfectly. I receive about 20 e-mail a
day for information request and support calls. Now I arrange this within
outlook with rules. It works, but I keep losing information. I can write a
own Access App and asp frontend but this cost time which I rather spent on
paying customers :-).

What the supportsystem must handle is:
- automaticly convert incoming email to a support call and give a reply
- can handle attachments/screen shots.
- keep a history of call communnications.


Any ideas, suggestions are welcome. I am willing to buy a good working
package if someone has one.

Thanks, Marcel



From BarbaraRyan at cox.net  Mon Jun  6 06:50:01 2005
From: BarbaraRyan at cox.net (Barbara Ryan)
Date: Mon, 6 Jun 2005 07:50:01 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Replication
Message-ID: <001801c56a8d$df236920$0a00a8c0@cx470148a>

I have two Access 2002 databases (appr 40 MB) that will need to be replicated on a regular (daily?) basis.  The replica resides in Missouri and the design master in Virginia (at the company main office).  The Missouri site has dial-up capabilities to the Norfolk network (via T1 line? --- please excuse me, this kind of stuff confuses me!).  The company also has a website --- where databases can uploaded/downloaded.

Any suggestions on the most efficient way to replicate a database of this size over this distance?

Thanks,
Barb Ryan

From BarbaraRyan at cox.net  Mon Jun  6 06:57:41 2005
From: BarbaraRyan at cox.net (Barbara Ryan)
Date: Mon, 6 Jun 2005 07:57:41 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Replication 
Message-ID: <002101c56a8e$f1aeeb40$0a00a8c0@cx470148a>

Another question ---- I created a Design Master in Access 97 (when opened in Access 97, the title bar says "Design Master").  When I convert this Design Master to Access 2002, the title bar says "Replica".  How can I convert a 97 Design Master to a 2002 Design Master?

Thanks Again,
Barb Ryan

From bheid at appdevgrp.com  Mon Jun  6 07:40:09 2005
From: bheid at appdevgrp.com (Bobby Heid)
Date: Mon, 6 Jun 2005 08:40:09 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Copyright stuff
Message-ID: <916187228923D311A6FE00A0CC3FAA30ABEBEB@ADGSERVER>

Hey,

I have an app that I wrote for a church.  They are interested in selling it
to some other local churches.  They asked me to find out about copyrighting
it.  What do I need to know about copyrights?

Thanks,
Bobby



From jmhecht at earthlink.net  Mon Jun  6 09:15:28 2005
From: jmhecht at earthlink.net (Joe Hecht)
Date: Mon, 6 Jun 2005 07:15:28 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Help with a query
Message-ID: <001501c56aa2$314fd990$6401a8c0@laptop1>

I have a database where a query works with about 14 of almost 5000 records.
 
I rewrote the query and still the same results
 
I have added data in some fields that were missing data.
 
Ant thoughts
 
TIA
 
Joe Hecht
Los Angeles CA
 


From roz.clarke at donnslaw.co.uk  Mon Jun  6 09:34:05 2005
From: roz.clarke at donnslaw.co.uk (Roz Clarke)
Date: Mon, 6 Jun 2005 15:34:05 +0100 
Subject: [AccessD] Help with a query
Message-ID: <61F915314798D311A2F800A0C9C8318807225B00@dibble.observatory.donnslaw.co.uk>

your SQL would be helpful Joe

-----Original Message-----
From: Joe Hecht [mailto:jmhecht at earthlink.net] 
Sent: 06 June 2005 15:15
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] Help with a query


I have a database where a query works with about 14 of almost 5000 records.
 
I rewrote the query and still the same results
 
I have added data in some fields that were missing data.
 
Ant thoughts
 
TIA
 
Joe Hecht
Los Angeles CA
 
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From: jmhecht at earthlink.net (Joe Hecht)
Date: Mon, 6 Jun 2005 07:41:12 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Help with a query
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You are right

SELECT DISTINCTROW PurchaseOrders.PurchaseOrderID, Vendors.VendorName,
Vendors.Address, Vendors.City, Vendors.State, Vendors.Zip, Vendors.Phone,
Vendors.Fax, PurchaseOrders.DateOrdered, PurchaseOrders.DateRequired,
PurchaseOrders.ShippingMethodID, Locations.LocationName,
Locations.LocationAddress, Locations.LocationCity, Locations.LocationState,
Locations.LocationZip, Locations.LocationPhone, Locations.LocationFax,
[City] & " " & [State] & " " & [Zip] AS VendaddLine3, [LocationCity] & " " &
[LocationState] & " " & [LocationZip] AS LocationAddLine3, [Shipping
Methods].ShippingMethod, PurchaseOrders.Notes, PurchaseOrders.Initails,
Locations.LocationID, Department.Department
FROM Department INNER JOIN (Locations INNER JOIN ([Shipping Methods] INNER
JOIN (Vendors INNER JOIN PurchaseOrders ON Vendors.VendorID =
PurchaseOrders.VendorID) ON [Shipping Methods].ShippingMethodID =
PurchaseOrders.ShippingMethodID) ON Locations.LocationID =
PurchaseOrders.LocationID) ON Department.DeptID = PurchaseOrders.DeptID
WHERE
(((PurchaseOrders.PurchaseOrderID)=[Forms]![PurchaseOrders]![PurchaseOrderID
]));

Joe Hecht
Los Angeles CA

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[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Roz Clarke
Sent: Monday, June 06, 2005 7:34 AM
To: access at joe2.endjunk.com; 'Access Developers discussion and problem
solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Help with a query

your SQL would be helpful Joe

-----Original Message-----
From: Joe Hecht [mailto:jmhecht at earthlink.net] 
Sent: 06 June 2005 15:15
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] Help with a query


I have a database where a query works with about 14 of almost 5000 records.
 
I rewrote the query and still the same results
 
I have added data in some fields that were missing data.
 
Ant thoughts
 
TIA
 
Joe Hecht
Los Angeles CA
 
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From john at winhaven.net  Mon Jun  6 09:43:31 2005
From: john at winhaven.net (John Bartow)
Date: Mon, 6 Jun 2005 09:43:31 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Copyright stuff
In-Reply-To: <916187228923D311A6FE00A0CC3FAA30ABEBEB@ADGSERVER>
Message-ID: <200506061443.j56EhZM4400092@pimout2-ext.prodigy.net>

Bobby,
We've discussed it a bit before here and its a country specific question.

Make sure you cover yourself in this venture because you will be the one
answering all the questions!

John B.

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[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Bobby Heid
Sent: Monday, June 06, 2005 7:40 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] Copyright stuff

Hey,

I have an app that I wrote for a church.  They are interested in selling it
to some other local churches.  They asked me to find out about copyrighting
it.  What do I need to know about copyrights?

Thanks,
Bobby

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From roz.clarke at donnslaw.co.uk  Mon Jun  6 09:51:13 2005
From: roz.clarke at donnslaw.co.uk (Roz Clarke)
Date: Mon, 6 Jun 2005 15:51:13 +0100 
Subject: [AccessD] Help with a query
Message-ID: <61F915314798D311A2F800A0C9C8318807225B02@dibble.observatory.donnslaw.co.uk>

Well, your WHERE clause is simple enough that it's unlikely to be the
culprit.

Have you tried making all your joins outer instead of inner, in case any
information is missing from the child side?

-----Original Message-----
From: Joe Hecht [mailto:jmhecht at earthlink.net] 
Sent: 06 June 2005 15:41
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Help with a query


You are right

SELECT DISTINCTROW PurchaseOrders.PurchaseOrderID, Vendors.VendorName,
Vendors.Address, Vendors.City, Vendors.State, Vendors.Zip, Vendors.Phone,
Vendors.Fax, PurchaseOrders.DateOrdered, PurchaseOrders.DateRequired,
PurchaseOrders.ShippingMethodID, Locations.LocationName,
Locations.LocationAddress, Locations.LocationCity, Locations.LocationState,
Locations.LocationZip, Locations.LocationPhone, Locations.LocationFax,
[City] & " " & [State] & " " & [Zip] AS VendaddLine3, [LocationCity] & " " &
[LocationState] & " " & [LocationZip] AS LocationAddLine3, [Shipping
Methods].ShippingMethod, PurchaseOrders.Notes, PurchaseOrders.Initails,
Locations.LocationID, Department.Department FROM Department INNER JOIN
(Locations INNER JOIN ([Shipping Methods] INNER JOIN (Vendors INNER JOIN
PurchaseOrders ON Vendors.VendorID =
PurchaseOrders.VendorID) ON [Shipping Methods].ShippingMethodID =
PurchaseOrders.ShippingMethodID) ON Locations.LocationID =
PurchaseOrders.LocationID) ON Department.DeptID = PurchaseOrders.DeptID
WHERE
(((PurchaseOrders.PurchaseOrderID)=[Forms]![PurchaseOrders]![PurchaseOrderID
]));

Joe Hecht
Los Angeles CA

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Roz Clarke
Sent: Monday, June 06, 2005 7:34 AM
To: access at joe2.endjunk.com; 'Access Developers discussion and problem
solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Help with a query

your SQL would be helpful Joe

-----Original Message-----
From: Joe Hecht [mailto:jmhecht at earthlink.net] 
Sent: 06 June 2005 15:15
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] Help with a query


I have a database where a query works with about 14 of almost 5000 records.
 
I rewrote the query and still the same results
 
I have added data in some fields that were missing data.
 
Ant thoughts
 
TIA
 
Joe Hecht
Los Angeles CA
 
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From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com  Mon Jun  6 09:50:20 2005
From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (John W. Colby)
Date: Mon, 06 Jun 2005 10:50:20 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Help with a query
In-Reply-To: <003101c56aa5$c9ee1a60$6401a8c0@laptop1>
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Make your inner joins into outer joins and see what happens.

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[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Joe Hecht
Sent: Monday, June 06, 2005 10:41 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Help with a query


You are right

SELECT DISTINCTROW PurchaseOrders.PurchaseOrderID, Vendors.VendorName,
Vendors.Address, Vendors.City, Vendors.State, Vendors.Zip, Vendors.Phone,
Vendors.Fax, PurchaseOrders.DateOrdered, PurchaseOrders.DateRequired,
PurchaseOrders.ShippingMethodID, Locations.LocationName,
Locations.LocationAddress, Locations.LocationCity, Locations.LocationState,
Locations.LocationZip, Locations.LocationPhone, Locations.LocationFax,
[City] & " " & [State] & " " & [Zip] AS VendaddLine3, [LocationCity] & " " &
[LocationState] & " " & [LocationZip] AS LocationAddLine3, [Shipping
Methods].ShippingMethod, PurchaseOrders.Notes, PurchaseOrders.Initails,
Locations.LocationID, Department.Department FROM Department INNER JOIN
(Locations INNER JOIN ([Shipping Methods] INNER JOIN (Vendors INNER JOIN
PurchaseOrders ON Vendors.VendorID =
PurchaseOrders.VendorID) ON [Shipping Methods].ShippingMethodID =
PurchaseOrders.ShippingMethodID) ON Locations.LocationID =
PurchaseOrders.LocationID) ON Department.DeptID = PurchaseOrders.DeptID
WHERE
(((PurchaseOrders.PurchaseOrderID)=[Forms]![PurchaseOrders]![PurchaseOrderID
]));

Joe Hecht
Los Angeles CA

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Sent: Monday, June 06, 2005 7:34 AM
To: access at joe2.endjunk.com; 'Access Developers discussion and problem
solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Help with a query

your SQL would be helpful Joe

-----Original Message-----
From: Joe Hecht [mailto:jmhecht at earthlink.net] 
Sent: 06 June 2005 15:15
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] Help with a query


I have a database where a query works with about 14 of almost 5000 records.
 
I rewrote the query and still the same results
 
I have added data in some fields that were missing data.
 
Ant thoughts
 
TIA
 
Joe Hecht
Los Angeles CA
 
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From jmhecht at earthlink.net  Mon Jun  6 09:52:47 2005
From: jmhecht at earthlink.net (Joe Hecht)
Date: Mon, 6 Jun 2005 07:52:47 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Help with a query
In-Reply-To: <61F915314798D311A2F800A0C9C8318807225B02@dibble.observatory.donnslaw.co.uk>
Message-ID: <003d01c56aa7$680b7070$6401a8c0@laptop1>

I am building the query again as several queries to find records dropping
out.

How would I force all joins to be outer.

Thanks

Joe Hecht
Los Angeles CA

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Roz Clarke
Sent: Monday, June 06, 2005 7:51 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Help with a query

Well, your WHERE clause is simple enough that it's unlikely to be the
culprit.

Have you tried making all your joins outer instead of inner, in case any
information is missing from the child side?

-----Original Message-----
From: Joe Hecht [mailto:jmhecht at earthlink.net] 
Sent: 06 June 2005 15:41
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Help with a query


You are right

SELECT DISTINCTROW PurchaseOrders.PurchaseOrderID, Vendors.VendorName,
Vendors.Address, Vendors.City, Vendors.State, Vendors.Zip, Vendors.Phone,
Vendors.Fax, PurchaseOrders.DateOrdered, PurchaseOrders.DateRequired,
PurchaseOrders.ShippingMethodID, Locations.LocationName,
Locations.LocationAddress, Locations.LocationCity, Locations.LocationState,
Locations.LocationZip, Locations.LocationPhone, Locations.LocationFax,
[City] & " " & [State] & " " & [Zip] AS VendaddLine3, [LocationCity] & " " &
[LocationState] & " " & [LocationZip] AS LocationAddLine3, [Shipping
Methods].ShippingMethod, PurchaseOrders.Notes, PurchaseOrders.Initails,
Locations.LocationID, Department.Department FROM Department INNER JOIN
(Locations INNER JOIN ([Shipping Methods] INNER JOIN (Vendors INNER JOIN
PurchaseOrders ON Vendors.VendorID =
PurchaseOrders.VendorID) ON [Shipping Methods].ShippingMethodID =
PurchaseOrders.ShippingMethodID) ON Locations.LocationID =
PurchaseOrders.LocationID) ON Department.DeptID = PurchaseOrders.DeptID
WHERE
(((PurchaseOrders.PurchaseOrderID)=[Forms]![PurchaseOrders]![PurchaseOrderID
]));

Joe Hecht
Los Angeles CA

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Roz Clarke
Sent: Monday, June 06, 2005 7:34 AM
To: access at joe2.endjunk.com; 'Access Developers discussion and problem
solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Help with a query

your SQL would be helpful Joe

-----Original Message-----
From: Joe Hecht [mailto:jmhecht at earthlink.net] 
Sent: 06 June 2005 15:15
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] Help with a query


I have a database where a query works with about 14 of almost 5000 records.
 
I rewrote the query and still the same results
 
I have added data in some fields that were missing data.
 
Ant thoughts
 
TIA
 
Joe Hecht
Los Angeles CA
 
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From cfoust at infostatsystems.com  Mon Jun  6 09:52:52 2005
From: cfoust at infostatsystems.com (Charlotte Foust)
Date: Mon, 6 Jun 2005 07:52:52 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Copyright stuff
Message-ID: <E61FC1D4B1918244905B113C680BEA86873A71@infoserver01.infostat.local>

LOL  The name of a good attorney!  Actually, in the absence of a
specific contract that states otherwise, YOU hold the copyright to the
software, the church doesn't.

Charlotte Foust


-----Original Message-----
From: Bobby Heid [mailto:bheid at appdevgrp.com] 
Sent: Monday, June 06, 2005 5:40 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] Copyright stuff


Hey,

I have an app that I wrote for a church.  They are interested in selling
it to some other local churches.  They asked me to find out about
copyrighting it.  What do I need to know about copyrights?

Thanks,
Bobby

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From cfoust at infostatsystems.com  Mon Jun  6 09:57:14 2005
From: cfoust at infostatsystems.com (Charlotte Foust)
Date: Mon, 6 Jun 2005 07:57:14 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Replication 
Message-ID: <E61FC1D4B1918244905B113C680BEA8689A32C@infoserver01.infostat.local>

When you copy or convert a design master, the result is always a
replica.  You will have to turn that into a design master by
"recovering" it.  I don't have replication installed on this machine, so
I can't be more specific, but I'm sure someone else can jump in with the
details.

Charlotte Foust


-----Original Message-----
From: Barbara Ryan [mailto:BarbaraRyan at cox.net] 
Sent: Monday, June 06, 2005 4:58 AM
To: Access List
Subject: [AccessD] Replication 


Another question ---- I created a Design Master in Access 97 (when
opened in Access 97, the title bar says "Design Master").  When I
convert this Design Master to Access 2002, the title bar says "Replica".
How can I convert a 97 Design Master to a 2002 Design Master?

Thanks Again,
Barb Ryan
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From roz.clarke at donnslaw.co.uk  Mon Jun  6 10:24:57 2005
From: roz.clarke at donnslaw.co.uk (Roz Clarke)
Date: Mon, 6 Jun 2005 16:24:57 +0100 
Subject: [AccessD] Help with a query
Message-ID: <61F915314798D311A2F800A0C9C8318807225B04@dibble.observatory.donnslaw.co.uk>

double click on the join in the QBE window, and select the appropriate
option

-----Original Message-----
From: Joe Hecht [mailto:jmhecht at earthlink.net] 
Sent: 06 June 2005 15:53
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Help with a query


I am building the query again as several queries to find records dropping
out.

How would I force all joins to be outer.

Thanks

Joe Hecht
Los Angeles CA

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Roz Clarke
Sent: Monday, June 06, 2005 7:51 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Help with a query

Well, your WHERE clause is simple enough that it's unlikely to be the
culprit.

Have you tried making all your joins outer instead of inner, in case any
information is missing from the child side?

-----Original Message-----
From: Joe Hecht [mailto:jmhecht at earthlink.net] 
Sent: 06 June 2005 15:41
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Help with a query


You are right

SELECT DISTINCTROW PurchaseOrders.PurchaseOrderID, Vendors.VendorName,
Vendors.Address, Vendors.City, Vendors.State, Vendors.Zip, Vendors.Phone,
Vendors.Fax, PurchaseOrders.DateOrdered, PurchaseOrders.DateRequired,
PurchaseOrders.ShippingMethodID, Locations.LocationName,
Locations.LocationAddress, Locations.LocationCity, Locations.LocationState,
Locations.LocationZip, Locations.LocationPhone, Locations.LocationFax,
[City] & " " & [State] & " " & [Zip] AS VendaddLine3, [LocationCity] & " " &
[LocationState] & " " & [LocationZip] AS LocationAddLine3, [Shipping
Methods].ShippingMethod, PurchaseOrders.Notes, PurchaseOrders.Initails,
Locations.LocationID, Department.Department FROM Department INNER JOIN
(Locations INNER JOIN ([Shipping Methods] INNER JOIN (Vendors INNER JOIN
PurchaseOrders ON Vendors.VendorID =
PurchaseOrders.VendorID) ON [Shipping Methods].ShippingMethodID =
PurchaseOrders.ShippingMethodID) ON Locations.LocationID =
PurchaseOrders.LocationID) ON Department.DeptID = PurchaseOrders.DeptID
WHERE
(((PurchaseOrders.PurchaseOrderID)=[Forms]![PurchaseOrders]![PurchaseOrderID
]));

Joe Hecht
Los Angeles CA

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Roz Clarke
Sent: Monday, June 06, 2005 7:34 AM
To: access at joe2.endjunk.com; 'Access Developers discussion and problem
solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Help with a query

your SQL would be helpful Joe

-----Original Message-----
From: Joe Hecht [mailto:jmhecht at earthlink.net] 
Sent: 06 June 2005 15:15
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] Help with a query


I have a database where a query works with about 14 of almost 5000 records.
 
I rewrote the query and still the same results
 
I have added data in some fields that were missing data.
 
Ant thoughts
 
TIA
 
Joe Hecht
Los Angeles CA
 
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From jmhecht at earthlink.net  Mon Jun  6 10:32:02 2005
From: jmhecht at earthlink.net (Joe Hecht)
Date: Mon, 6 Jun 2005 08:32:02 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Help with a query (Solved)
Message-ID: <005901c56aac$e38d61e0$6401a8c0@laptop1>

Thanks to Rocky, Roz and John C
 
It was a join issue.
 
Under their tutelage and Guidance I got it.
 
THANK YOU
 
 
 
Joe Hecht
Los Angeles CA
 


From john at winhaven.net  Mon Jun  6 10:38:13 2005
From: john at winhaven.net (John Bartow)
Date: Mon, 6 Jun 2005 10:38:13 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Copyright stuff
In-Reply-To: <200506061443.j56EhZM4400092@pimout2-ext.prodigy.net>
Message-ID: <200506061538.j56FcGIK204482@pimout3-ext.prodigy.net>

I found it! It was quite receently discussed. Do an archive search on
"Copyright Ownership".

HTH
John 

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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of John Bartow
Sent: Monday, June 06, 2005 9:44 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Copyright stuff

Bobby,
We've discussed it a bit before here and its a country specific question.

Make sure you cover yourself in this venture because you will be the one
answering all the questions!

John B.

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Bobby Heid
Sent: Monday, June 06, 2005 7:40 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] Copyright stuff

Hey,

I have an app that I wrote for a church.  They are interested in selling it
to some other local churches.  They asked me to find out about copyrighting
it.  What do I need to know about copyrights?

Thanks,
Bobby

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From martyconnelly at shaw.ca  Mon Jun  6 10:43:38 2005
From: martyconnelly at shaw.ca (MartyConnelly)
Date: Mon, 06 Jun 2005 08:43:38 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Copyright stuff
References: <E61FC1D4B1918244905B113C680BEA86873A71@infoserver01.infostat.local>
Message-ID: <42A46F2A.2010005@shaw.ca>

Copyright on software in US
Just for Info.
One other thing to do is file a copyright, you have a copyright 
automatically
 but you cannot sue for copyright infringement, unless it is registered 
with government
This costs $30. You send in roughly first and last 25 pages of source 
code with blocked out trade secrets.
Government processing time is six months.
For US details see:
Copyright Registration for Computer Programs

http://www.copyright.gov/circs/circ61.html#deposit

I suppose you could use SaveAsText to dump forms queries reports and 
modules to text files.

If you sell MDE's you might want to escrow your source code, there are 
sevice sites that
handle this, cost is about 100 -500 a year depending on dispersion and 
update practices.
You could do this via your local attorney and a couple of CD's but I 
think it would
leave the attorney scratching his head, if he doesn't do it on a regular 
basis.

Charlotte Foust wrote:

>LOL  The name of a good attorney!  Actually, in the absence of a
>specific contract that states otherwise, YOU hold the copyright to the
>software, the church doesn't.
>
>Charlotte Foust
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Bobby Heid [mailto:bheid at appdevgrp.com] 
>Sent: Monday, June 06, 2005 5:40 AM
>To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
>Subject: [AccessD] Copyright stuff
>
>
>Hey,
>
>I have an app that I wrote for a church.  They are interested in selling
>it to some other local churches.  They asked me to find out about
>copyrighting it.  What do I need to know about copyrights?
>
>Thanks,
>Bobby
>
>  
>

-- 
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Victoria, B.C.
Canada





From bheid at appdevgrp.com  Mon Jun  6 11:19:50 2005
From: bheid at appdevgrp.com (Bobby Heid)
Date: Mon, 6 Jun 2005 12:19:50 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Copyright stuff
In-Reply-To: <916187228923D311A6FE00A0CC3FAA30BDC544@ADGSERVER>
Message-ID: <916187228923D311A6FE00A0CC3FAA30ABEBF4@ADGSERVER>

Thanks all for the links and information, this will get me started.

Bobby

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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of MartyConnelly
Sent: Monday, June 06, 2005 11:44 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Copyright stuff


Copyright on software in US
Just for Info.
One other thing to do is file a copyright, you have a copyright 
automatically
 but you cannot sue for copyright infringement, unless it is registered 
with government
This costs $30. You send in roughly first and last 25 pages of source 
code with blocked out trade secrets.
Government processing time is six months.
For US details see:
Copyright Registration for Computer Programs

http://www.copyright.gov/circs/circ61.html#deposit

I suppose you could use SaveAsText to dump forms queries reports and 
modules to text files.

If you sell MDE's you might want to escrow your source code, there are 
sevice sites that
handle this, cost is about 100 -500 a year depending on dispersion and 
update practices.
You could do this via your local attorney and a couple of CD's but I 
think it would
leave the attorney scratching his head, if he doesn't do it on a regular 
basis.

Charlotte Foust wrote:

>LOL  The name of a good attorney!  Actually, in the absence of a 
>specific contract that states otherwise, YOU hold the copyright to the 
>software, the church doesn't.
>
>Charlotte Foust
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Bobby Heid [mailto:bheid at appdevgrp.com]
>Sent: Monday, June 06, 2005 5:40 AM
>To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
>Subject: [AccessD] Copyright stuff
>
>
>Hey,
>
>I have an app that I wrote for a church.  They are interested in 
>selling it to some other local churches.  They asked me to find out 
>about copyrighting it.  What do I need to know about copyrights?
>
>Thanks,
>Bobby
>
>  
>

-- 
Marty Connelly
Victoria, B.C.
Canada



From MarkBoyd at McBeeAssociates.com  Mon Jun  6 11:31:04 2005
From: MarkBoyd at McBeeAssociates.com (Mark Boyd)
Date: Mon, 6 Jun 2005 12:31:04 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Excel Macro Automation from within Access
Message-ID: <974F830FE464C14E8652F95E24DA663C043FA6@mail03.Mcbassoc.com>

Thanks Jim.  This is perfect!

Mark Boyd
I/S Supervisor
McBee Associates, Inc.


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Hale, Jim
Sent: Thursday, June 02, 2005 10:10 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Excel Macro Automation from within Access

I think the sequence you are looking for is similar to this:

Sub rpt_to_excel()
Dim appExcel As Excel.Application, strpathname As String Dim strpathnew
As String, strReport As String

strpathname = "C:\test.xls"
strpathnew = "C:\test2.xls"
strReport = "rptInvsummary"
DoCmd.OutputTo acOutputReport, strReport, acFormatXLS, strpathname

 Set appExcel = New Excel.Application
 
 'format your report
    With appExcel
        .Workbooks.Open strpathname, 0
        .Visible = True 'just to watch the sheet
        .Range("A1:G1").Select
        .Selection.Font.Bold = True
        .Selection.Font.Name = "Arial"
        .Selection.Font.Size = 12
        .ActiveWorkbook.SaveAs Filename:=strpathnew,
FileFormat:=xlNormal
    End With
     appExcel.Quit
    Set appExcel = Nothing
End Sub

This opens the file you output and saves it as a current version
workbook under a new name. 

As you debug be aware of leaving orphan instances of Excel in memory.
You can tell if any exist by placing the following script in notepad and
running
it:

Dim objXL
	Dim strMessage
	
	On Error Resume Next
	
	'	Try to grab a running instance of
	'	Excel...
	Set objXL = GetObject(, "Excel.Application")
	
	'	What did we find?..
	If Not TypeName(objXL) = "Empty" Then
		strMessage = "Excel Running."
	Else
		strMessage = "Excel Not Running."
	End If
	
	'	Feedback to user...
	MsgBox strMessage, vbInformation, "Excel Status"
	
	'	Make the Excel instance visible 
	'	if we found one
	if strMessage = "Excel Running." then _
				objXL.Visible = true 

-----Original Message-----
From: Mark Boyd [mailto:MarkBoyd at mcbeeassociates.com]
Sent: Wednesday, June 01, 2005 5:21 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Excel Macro Automation from within Access


Thanks Jim, this is pointing me in the right direction.

The export process is as follows:
1. Export report to Excel
2. Format report w/ macro
3. Save formatting changes
4. Attach file to email message

When using the SaveAs method, I'm prompted to overwrite the existing
excel file (the one just formatted).  Am I missing something in regard
to the properties of the SaveAs method, that will allow me to save the
existing, formatted file?  If I select Yes to overwrite the existing
file, all of the macro formats are lost.


Mark Boyd
I/S Supervisor
McBee Associates, Inc.


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Hale, Jim
Sent: Wednesday, June 01, 2005 3:40 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Excel Macro Automation from within Access

Are you saving the file using code? Check out Excel's SaveAs method. It
allows a fileformat parameter. I think xlWorkbookNormal is the correct
one.

Jim Hale


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From Jim.Hale at FleetPride.com  Mon Jun  6 13:43:16 2005
From: Jim.Hale at FleetPride.com (Hale, Jim)
Date: Mon, 6 Jun 2005 13:43:16 -0500 
Subject: [AccessD] Excel Macro Automation from within Access
Message-ID: <6A6AA9DF57E4F046BDA1E273BDDB6772337633@corp-es01.fleetpride.com>

I'm glad it worked for you. I was thinking that you might want to add a 
	Kill strpathname 'deletes original Excel sheet
statement after the new copy has been saved so you are left with only the
new copy.

Jim Hale

-----Original Message-----
From: Mark Boyd [mailto:MarkBoyd at mcbeeassociates.com]
Sent: Monday, June 06, 2005 11:31 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Excel Macro Automation from within Access


Thanks Jim.  This is perfect!

Mark Boyd
I/S Supervisor
McBee Associates, Inc.


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Hale, Jim
Sent: Thursday, June 02, 2005 10:10 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Excel Macro Automation from within Access

I think the sequence you are looking for is similar to this:

Sub rpt_to_excel()
Dim appExcel As Excel.Application, strpathname As String Dim strpathnew
As String, strReport As String

strpathname = "C:\test.xls"
strpathnew = "C:\test2.xls"
strReport = "rptInvsummary"
DoCmd.OutputTo acOutputReport, strReport, acFormatXLS, strpathname

 Set appExcel = New Excel.Application
 
 'format your report
    With appExcel
        .Workbooks.Open strpathname, 0
        .Visible = True 'just to watch the sheet
        .Range("A1:G1").Select
        .Selection.Font.Bold = True
        .Selection.Font.Name = "Arial"
        .Selection.Font.Size = 12
        .ActiveWorkbook.SaveAs Filename:=strpathnew,FileFormat:=xlNormal
    End With
     appExcel.Quit
    Set appExcel = Nothing
End Sub

This opens the file you output and saves it as a current version
workbook under a new name. 

As you debug be aware of leaving orphan instances of Excel in memory.
You can tell if any exist by placing the following script in notepad and
running
it:

Dim objXL
	Dim strMessage
	
	On Error Resume Next
	
	'	Try to grab a running instance of
	'	Excel...
	Set objXL = GetObject(, "Excel.Application")
	
	'	What did we find?..
	If Not TypeName(objXL) = "Empty" Then
		strMessage = "Excel Running."
	Else
		strMessage = "Excel Not Running."
	End If
	
	'	Feedback to user...
	MsgBox strMessage, vbInformation, "Excel Status"
	
	'	Make the Excel instance visible 
	'	if we found one
	if strMessage = "Excel Running." then _
				objXL.Visible = true 

-----Original Message-----
From: Mark Boyd [mailto:MarkBoyd at mcbeeassociates.com]
Sent: Wednesday, June 01, 2005 5:21 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Excel Macro Automation from within Access


Thanks Jim, this is pointing me in the right direction.

The export process is as follows:
1. Export report to Excel
2. Format report w/ macro
3. Save formatting changes
4. Attach file to email message

When using the SaveAs method, I'm prompted to overwrite the existing
excel file (the one just formatted).  Am I missing something in regard
to the properties of the SaveAs method, that will allow me to save the
existing, formatted file?  If I select Yes to overwrite the existing
file, all of the macro formats are lost.


Mark Boyd
I/S Supervisor
McBee Associates, Inc.



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From MarkBoyd at McBeeAssociates.com  Mon Jun  6 13:55:51 2005
From: MarkBoyd at McBeeAssociates.com (Mark Boyd)
Date: Mon, 6 Jun 2005 14:55:51 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Excel Macro Automation from within Access
Message-ID: <974F830FE464C14E8652F95E24DA663C043FAF@mail03.Mcbassoc.com>

Great idea.  I wasn't aware of the Kill statement.  My plan was to shell
a batch file to delete it, but this is much easier.

Thanks again,
Mark Boyd
I/S Supervisor
McBee Associates, Inc.


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Hale, Jim
Sent: Monday, June 06, 2005 2:43 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Excel Macro Automation from within Access

I'm glad it worked for you. I was thinking that you might want to add a 
	Kill strpathname 'deletes original Excel sheet statement after
the new copy has been saved so you are left with only the new copy.

Jim Hale

-----Original Message-----
From: Mark Boyd [mailto:MarkBoyd at mcbeeassociates.com]
Sent: Monday, June 06, 2005 11:31 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Excel Macro Automation from within Access


Thanks Jim.  This is perfect!

Mark Boyd
I/S Supervisor
McBee Associates, Inc.


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Hale, Jim
Sent: Thursday, June 02, 2005 10:10 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Excel Macro Automation from within Access

I think the sequence you are looking for is similar to this:

Sub rpt_to_excel()
Dim appExcel As Excel.Application, strpathname As String Dim strpathnew
As String, strReport As String

strpathname = "C:\test.xls"
strpathnew = "C:\test2.xls"
strReport = "rptInvsummary"
DoCmd.OutputTo acOutputReport, strReport, acFormatXLS, strpathname

 Set appExcel = New Excel.Application
 
 'format your report
    With appExcel
        .Workbooks.Open strpathname, 0
        .Visible = True 'just to watch the sheet
        .Range("A1:G1").Select
        .Selection.Font.Bold = True
        .Selection.Font.Name = "Arial"
        .Selection.Font.Size = 12
        .ActiveWorkbook.SaveAs Filename:=strpathnew,FileFormat:=xlNormal
    End With
     appExcel.Quit
    Set appExcel = Nothing
End Sub

This opens the file you output and saves it as a current version
workbook under a new name. 

As you debug be aware of leaving orphan instances of Excel in memory.
You can tell if any exist by placing the following script in notepad and
running
it:

Dim objXL
	Dim strMessage
	
	On Error Resume Next
	
	'	Try to grab a running instance of
	'	Excel...
	Set objXL = GetObject(, "Excel.Application")
	
	'	What did we find?..
	If Not TypeName(objXL) = "Empty" Then
		strMessage = "Excel Running."
	Else
		strMessage = "Excel Not Running."
	End If
	
	'	Feedback to user...
	MsgBox strMessage, vbInformation, "Excel Status"
	
	'	Make the Excel instance visible 
	'	if we found one
	if strMessage = "Excel Running." then _
				objXL.Visible = true 

-----Original Message-----
From: Mark Boyd [mailto:MarkBoyd at mcbeeassociates.com]
Sent: Wednesday, June 01, 2005 5:21 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Excel Macro Automation from within Access


Thanks Jim, this is pointing me in the right direction.

The export process is as follows:
1. Export report to Excel
2. Format report w/ macro
3. Save formatting changes
4. Attach file to email message

When using the SaveAs method, I'm prompted to overwrite the existing
excel file (the one just formatted).  Am I missing something in regard
to the properties of the SaveAs method, that will allow me to save the
existing, formatted file?  If I select Yes to overwrite the existing
file, all of the macro formats are lost.


Mark Boyd
I/S Supervisor
McBee Associates, Inc.



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From Jim.Hale at FleetPride.com  Mon Jun  6 14:00:46 2005
From: Jim.Hale at FleetPride.com (Hale, Jim)
Date: Mon, 6 Jun 2005 14:00:46 -0500 
Subject: [AccessD] Excel Macro Automation from within Access
Message-ID: <6A6AA9DF57E4F046BDA1E273BDDB6772337634@corp-es01.fleetpride.com>

Just make sure before you kill it that the other file was successfully
created :->
Jim Hale

-----Original Message-----
From: Mark Boyd [mailto:MarkBoyd at mcbeeassociates.com]
Sent: Monday, June 06, 2005 1:56 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Excel Macro Automation from within Access


Great idea.  I wasn't aware of the Kill statement.  My plan was to shell
a batch file to delete it, but this is much easier.

Thanks again,
Mark Boyd
I/S Supervisor
McBee Associates, Inc.


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Hale, Jim
Sent: Monday, June 06, 2005 2:43 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Excel Macro Automation from within Access

I'm glad it worked for you. I was thinking that you might want to add a 
	Kill strpathname 'deletes original Excel sheet statement after
the new copy has been saved so you are left with only the new copy.

Jim Hale

-----Original Message-----
From: Mark Boyd [mailto:MarkBoyd at mcbeeassociates.com]
Sent: Monday, June 06, 2005 11:31 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Excel Macro Automation from within Access


Thanks Jim.  This is perfect!

Mark Boyd
I/S Supervisor
McBee Associates, Inc.


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Hale, Jim
Sent: Thursday, June 02, 2005 10:10 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Excel Macro Automation from within Access

I think the sequence you are looking for is similar to this:

Sub rpt_to_excel()
Dim appExcel As Excel.Application, strpathname As String Dim strpathnew
As String, strReport As String

strpathname = "C:\test.xls"
strpathnew = "C:\test2.xls"
strReport = "rptInvsummary"
DoCmd.OutputTo acOutputReport, strReport, acFormatXLS, strpathname

 Set appExcel = New Excel.Application
 
 'format your report
    With appExcel
        .Workbooks.Open strpathname, 0
        .Visible = True 'just to watch the sheet
        .Range("A1:G1").Select
        .Selection.Font.Bold = True
        .Selection.Font.Name = "Arial"
        .Selection.Font.Size = 12
        .ActiveWorkbook.SaveAs Filename:=strpathnew,FileFormat:=xlNormal
    End With
     appExcel.Quit
    Set appExcel = Nothing
End Sub

This opens the file you output and saves it as a current version
workbook under a new name. 

As you debug be aware of leaving orphan instances of Excel in memory.
You can tell if any exist by placing the following script in notepad and
running
it:

Dim objXL
	Dim strMessage
	
	On Error Resume Next
	
	'	Try to grab a running instance of
	'	Excel...
	Set objXL = GetObject(, "Excel.Application")
	
	'	What did we find?..
	If Not TypeName(objXL) = "Empty" Then
		strMessage = "Excel Running."
	Else
		strMessage = "Excel Not Running."
	End If
	
	'	Feedback to user...
	MsgBox strMessage, vbInformation, "Excel Status"
	
	'	Make the Excel instance visible 
	'	if we found one
	if strMessage = "Excel Running." then _
				objXL.Visible = true 

-----Original Message-----
From: Mark Boyd [mailto:MarkBoyd at mcbeeassociates.com]
Sent: Wednesday, June 01, 2005 5:21 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Excel Macro Automation from within Access


Thanks Jim, this is pointing me in the right direction.

The export process is as follows:
1. Export report to Excel
2. Format report w/ macro
3. Save formatting changes
4. Attach file to email message

When using the SaveAs method, I'm prompted to overwrite the existing
excel file (the one just formatted).  Am I missing something in regard
to the properties of the SaveAs method, that will allow me to save the
existing, formatted file?  If I select Yes to overwrite the existing
file, all of the macro formats are lost.


Mark Boyd
I/S Supervisor
McBee Associates, Inc.



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are responsible for screening its contents and the contents of any
attachments for the presence of viruses. No liability is accepted for
any damages caused by any virus transmitted by this email.
 
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From erbachs at gmail.com  Mon Jun  6 16:21:45 2005
From: erbachs at gmail.com (Steve Erbach)
Date: Mon, 6 Jun 2005 16:21:45 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Access security question
Message-ID: <39cb22f30506061421710cef34@mail.gmail.com>

Dear Group,

I've converted an application to Access 2000 for a client. This
application is running on single user workstations at about a half
dozen places around the U.S. The question my client has is this:  Lets
say that the tables in the BE have Access security invoked. If the
FE/BE is distributed in MDE format with Access Runtime, can a user
with a full-bore package of Access start the application, break out of
it, and wind up with all the tables available to him for editing, etc?
This is provided that the security is administered by the software so
that the actual security password is not known by the user. Only user
names and application passwords would be known.

Or is it even possible for the application to handle Access security
like this. That is, can Access security work without a user explicitly
typing in a password?

Thank you.

Regards,

Steve Erbach
Scientific Marketing
Neenah, WI
www.swerbach.com
Security Page: www.swerbach.com/security


From cfoust at infostatsystems.com  Mon Jun  6 16:34:24 2005
From: cfoust at infostatsystems.com (Charlotte Foust)
Date: Mon, 6 Jun 2005 14:34:24 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Access security question
Message-ID: <E61FC1D4B1918244905B113C680BEA86873A75@infoserver01.infostat.local>

They can if the BE is not adequately secured, which means at the least
that the admin user is stripped of permissions and put in the users
group rather than the admins group.

Charlotte Foust


-----Original Message-----
From: Steve Erbach [mailto:erbachs at gmail.com] 
Sent: Monday, June 06, 2005 2:22 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: [AccessD] Access security question


Dear Group,

I've converted an application to Access 2000 for a client. This
application is running on single user workstations at about a half dozen
places around the U.S. The question my client has is this:  Lets say
that the tables in the BE have Access security invoked. If the FE/BE is
distributed in MDE format with Access Runtime, can a user with a
full-bore package of Access start the application, break out of it, and
wind up with all the tables available to him for editing, etc? This is
provided that the security is administered by the software so that the
actual security password is not known by the user. Only user names and
application passwords would be known.

Or is it even possible for the application to handle Access security
like this. That is, can Access security work without a user explicitly
typing in a password?

Thank you.

Regards,

Steve Erbach
Scientific Marketing
Neenah, WI
www.swerbach.com
Security Page: www.swerbach.com/security
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From jimdettman at earthlink.net  Mon Jun  6 16:50:52 2005
From: jimdettman at earthlink.net (Jim Dettman)
Date: Mon, 6 Jun 2005 17:50:52 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Access security question
In-Reply-To: <39cb22f30506061421710cef34@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <NDEALJOEGMMPCDKIFGNFEEEFDFAA.jimdettman@earthlink.net>

Steve,

<<Or is it even possible for the application to handle Access security
like this. That is, can Access security work without a user explicitly
typing in a password?>>

  Yes it can.  Access security is always "on", it's just that you don't get
a password prompt if the admin user has a blank password (JET always
attempts a logon with username admin and a blank password when it first
tries to open a database).

<<Lets
say that the tables in the BE have Access security invoked. If the
FE/BE is distributed in MDE format with Access Runtime, can a user
with a full-bore package of Access start the application, break out of
it, and wind up with all the tables available to him for editing, etc?
This is provided that the security is administered by the software so
that the actual security password is not known by the user. Only user
names and application passwords would be known.>>

  Without Access user level security in place on the BE tables, yes.  To
prevent that, they need to be properly secured with user level security and
all the queries will need RWO (Run with owner permissions) set or you need
to open a workspace object with the correct username/password in code.

Jim.


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Steve Erbach
Sent: Monday, June 06, 2005 5:22 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: [AccessD] Access security question


Dear Group,

I've converted an application to Access 2000 for a client. This
application is running on single user workstations at about a half
dozen places around the U.S. The question my client has is this:  Lets
say that the tables in the BE have Access security invoked. If the
FE/BE is distributed in MDE format with Access Runtime, can a user
with a full-bore package of Access start the application, break out of
it, and wind up with all the tables available to him for editing, etc?
This is provided that the security is administered by the software so
that the actual security password is not known by the user. Only user
names and application passwords would be known.

Or is it even possible for the application to handle Access security
like this. That is, can Access security work without a user explicitly
typing in a password?

Thank you.

Regards,

Steve Erbach
Scientific Marketing
Neenah, WI
www.swerbach.com
Security Page: www.swerbach.com/security
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From darsant at gmail.com  Mon Jun  6 17:23:01 2005
From: darsant at gmail.com (Josh McFarlane)
Date: Mon, 6 Jun 2005 17:23:01 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Access security question
In-Reply-To: <NDEALJOEGMMPCDKIFGNFEEEFDFAA.jimdettman@earthlink.net>
References: <39cb22f30506061421710cef34@mail.gmail.com>
	<NDEALJOEGMMPCDKIFGNFEEEFDFAA.jimdettman@earthlink.net>
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On 6/6/05, Jim Dettman <jimdettman at earthlink.net> wrote:
> Steve,
> 
> <<Or is it even possible for the application to handle Access security
> like this. That is, can Access security work without a user explicitly
> typing in a password?>>
> 
>   Yes it can.  Access security is always "on", it's just that you don't get
> a password prompt if the admin user has a blank password (JET always
> attempts a logon with username admin and a blank password when it first
> tries to open a database).
> 
> <<Lets
> say that the tables in the BE have Access security invoked. If the
> FE/BE is distributed in MDE format with Access Runtime, can a user
> with a full-bore package of Access start the application, break out of
> it, and wind up with all the tables available to him for editing, etc?
> This is provided that the security is administered by the software so
> that the actual security password is not known by the user. Only user
> names and application passwords would be known.>>
> 
>   Without Access user level security in place on the BE tables, yes.  To
> prevent that, they need to be properly secured with user level security and
> all the queries will need RWO (Run with owner permissions) set or you need
> to open a workspace object with the correct username/password in code.
> 
> Jim.
Here's another access security question:

In terms of front-end security, can a front-end truly be locked down
to force a user to remain in the GUI and abide by it's code?

Coding in C++ with an interface to an Access backend allows you to
allow the user to only work in the program your way, without tinkering
with the tables (you can always password protect the Access database
then encode the password into the program itself).

However, in also using Access as a front end, it seems to me that a
user could still break out the loop and use whatever queries had write
access to manually go in and mess around with things, sometimes
allowing a bypass of a transaction log.

Can Access be locked down so someone who knows a thing or two about
Access can't modify data directly?

Thanks,
Josh McFarlane

"Peace cannot be kept by force. It can only be achieved by understanding."
-Albert Einstein


From KIsmert at texassystems.com  Mon Jun  6 18:27:53 2005
From: KIsmert at texassystems.com (Ken Ismert)
Date: Mon, 6 Jun 2005 18:27:53 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Copyright stuff
Message-ID: <B7C87D3ABC87FC4E8CFE054CE2E8868A0708CA@aries.TexasSystems.local>


Bobby,

Given the charitable nature of the organizations that the software is
intended for, you might consider copyrighting it under one of several
open source licenses, and giving it away.

The copyright is still vital, because it establishes authorship, and,
depending on the type of license, places limits on how the software can
be used. 

Also, note that going open source does not preclude the possibility of
making money. The focus merely shifts from selling software to selling
services and support around the software. The software then becomes a
tool for gaining market penetration, an makes you, the author, the
logical person to go to for conversions, training, paid extensions, etc.

Open Source Initiative
http://www.opensource.org/

Free Software Foundation:
http://www.fsf.org/

-Ken

-----Original Message-----
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Sent: Monday, June 06, 2005 11:20 AM
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Subject: RE: [AccessD] Copyright stuff

Thanks all for the links and information, this will get me started.

Bobby



From relations at rescom.cc  Mon Jun  6 18:37:37 2005
From: relations at rescom.cc (Res-Com Environmental)
Date: Mon, 6 Jun 2005 16:37:37 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Insert Access Info Into Web page
Message-ID: <JIEKIIMEGLDLMJDHKMOLKELPCEAA.relations@rescom.cc>

Dear List:

Is there a way that Access information (such as names and addresses) can be
inserted into a website's form fields? We are trying to use a businesses
website that doesn't offer special connections so we have to manually enter
information from our database.

Adam
ResCom




From paul.hartland at isharp.co.uk  Tue Jun  7 02:21:22 2005
From: paul.hartland at isharp.co.uk (Paul Hartland (ISHARP))
Date: Tue, 7 Jun 2005 08:21:22 +0100
Subject: [AccessD] Access security question
In-Reply-To: <E61FC1D4B1918244905B113C680BEA86873A75@infoserver01.infostat.local>
Message-ID: <!~!UENERkVCMDkAAQACAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAC4AAAAAAAAAclrM129q6km1GlSfRwF8CgEAFKerAD79REu7GTojEo2iDgAAAAddkgAAEAAAAKOO38cAfRtLoSX9aH85URoBAAAAAA==@isharp.co.uk>

Talking of Access security, can someone tell me a good point of reference
for a novice in Access security to get started.  I have tinkered about with
it before for a very short while without much success.  Basically I think I
am looking for some sort of total idiots guide to Access Security....

Help/sample web pages etc greatly appreciated....

Paul Hartland 

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Charlotte Foust
Sent: 06 June 2005 22:34
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Access security question

They can if the BE is not adequately secured, which means at the least that
the admin user is stripped of permissions and put in the users group rather
than the admins group.

Charlotte Foust


-----Original Message-----
From: Steve Erbach [mailto:erbachs at gmail.com]
Sent: Monday, June 06, 2005 2:22 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: [AccessD] Access security question


Dear Group,

I've converted an application to Access 2000 for a client. This
application is running on single user workstations at about a half dozen
places around the U.S. The question my client has is this:  Lets say
that the tables in the BE have Access security invoked. If the FE/BE is
distributed in MDE format with Access Runtime, can a user with a
full-bore package of Access start the application, break out of it, and
wind up with all the tables available to him for editing, etc? This is
provided that the security is administered by the software so that the
actual security password is not known by the user. Only user names and
application passwords would be known.

Or is it even possible for the application to handle Access security
like this. That is, can Access security work without a user explicitly
typing in a password?

Thank you.

Regards,

Steve Erbach
Scientific Marketing
Neenah, WI
www.swerbach.com
Security Page: www.swerbach.com/security
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From paul.hartland at fsmail.net  Tue Jun  7 02:36:00 2005
From: paul.hartland at fsmail.net (paul.hartland at fsmail.net)
Date: Tue,  7 Jun 2005 09:36:00 +0200 (CEST)
Subject: [AccessD] More MapPoint Help If Possible
Message-ID: <8071615.1118129760195.JavaMail.www@wwinf3101>

To all,

Firstly many thanks for all the MapPoint help already given.  What I would like to know is what would be the fastest way to send a Client Postcode and around 450 Employee postcodes to either an ActiveX or API call with MapPoint and return the mileage from the Client for every employee.  I have played around a little bit but it seems slow so I am probably doing something wrong.

Many thanks in advance once again for any help on this.....

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From KP at sdsonline.net  Tue Jun  7 04:02:25 2005
From: KP at sdsonline.net (Kath Pelletti)
Date: Tue, 7 Jun 2005 19:02:25 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] Access security question
References: <!~!UENERkVCMDkAAQACAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAC4AAAAAAAAAclrM129q6km1GlSfRwF8CgEAFKerAD79REu7GTojEo2iDgAAAAddkgAAEAAAAKOO38cAfRtLoSX9aH85URoBAAAAAA==@isharp.co.uk>
Message-ID: <004401c56b3f$a0e41120$6601a8c0@user>

Hi Paul - here's the link for the Access security FAQ.

http://support.microsoft.com/support/access/content/secfaq.asp 

HTH
Kath


  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Paul Hartland (ISHARP) 
  To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' 
  Sent: Tuesday, June 07, 2005 5:21 PM
  Subject: RE: [AccessD] Access security question


  Talking of Access security, can someone tell me a good point of reference
  for a novice in Access security to get started.  I have tinkered about with
  it before for a very short while without much success.  Basically I think I
  am looking for some sort of total idiots guide to Access Security....

  Help/sample web pages etc greatly appreciated....

  Paul Hartland 

  -----Original Message-----
  From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
  [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Charlotte Foust
  Sent: 06 June 2005 22:34
  To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
  Subject: RE: [AccessD] Access security question

  They can if the BE is not adequately secured, which means at the least that
  the admin user is stripped of permissions and put in the users group rather
  than the admins group.

  Charlotte Foust


  -----Original Message-----
  From: Steve Erbach [mailto:erbachs at gmail.com]
  Sent: Monday, June 06, 2005 2:22 PM
  To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
  Subject: [AccessD] Access security question


  Dear Group,

  I've converted an application to Access 2000 for a client. This
  application is running on single user workstations at about a half dozen
  places around the U.S. The question my client has is this:  Lets say
  that the tables in the BE have Access security invoked. If the FE/BE is
  distributed in MDE format with Access Runtime, can a user with a
  full-bore package of Access start the application, break out of it, and
  wind up with all the tables available to him for editing, etc? This is
  provided that the security is administered by the software so that the
  actual security password is not known by the user. Only user names and
  application passwords would be known.

  Or is it even possible for the application to handle Access security
  like this. That is, can Access security work without a user explicitly
  typing in a password?

  Thank you.

  Regards,

  Steve Erbach
  Scientific Marketing
  Neenah, WI
  www.swerbach.com
  Security Page: www.swerbach.com/security
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From paul.hartland at isharp.co.uk  Tue Jun  7 04:12:35 2005
From: paul.hartland at isharp.co.uk (Paul Hartland (ISHARP))
Date: Tue, 7 Jun 2005 10:12:35 +0100
Subject: [AccessD] Access security question
In-Reply-To: <004401c56b3f$a0e41120$6601a8c0@user>
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Thanks will look into it 

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Kath Pelletti
Sent: 07 June 2005 10:02
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Access security question

Hi Paul - here's the link for the Access security FAQ.

http://support.microsoft.com/support/access/content/secfaq.asp 

HTH
Kath


  ----- Original Message -----
  From: Paul Hartland (ISHARP)
  To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' 
  Sent: Tuesday, June 07, 2005 5:21 PM
  Subject: RE: [AccessD] Access security question


  Talking of Access security, can someone tell me a good point of reference
  for a novice in Access security to get started.  I have tinkered about
with
  it before for a very short while without much success.  Basically I think
I
  am looking for some sort of total idiots guide to Access Security....

  Help/sample web pages etc greatly appreciated....

  Paul Hartland 

  -----Original Message-----
  From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
  [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Charlotte Foust
  Sent: 06 June 2005 22:34
  To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
  Subject: RE: [AccessD] Access security question

  They can if the BE is not adequately secured, which means at the least
that
  the admin user is stripped of permissions and put in the users group
rather
  than the admins group.

  Charlotte Foust


  -----Original Message-----
  From: Steve Erbach [mailto:erbachs at gmail.com]
  Sent: Monday, June 06, 2005 2:22 PM
  To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
  Subject: [AccessD] Access security question


  Dear Group,

  I've converted an application to Access 2000 for a client. This
  application is running on single user workstations at about a half dozen
  places around the U.S. The question my client has is this:  Lets say
  that the tables in the BE have Access security invoked. If the FE/BE is
  distributed in MDE format with Access Runtime, can a user with a
  full-bore package of Access start the application, break out of it, and
  wind up with all the tables available to him for editing, etc? This is
  provided that the security is administered by the software so that the
  actual security password is not known by the user. Only user names and
  application passwords would be known.

  Or is it even possible for the application to handle Access security
  like this. That is, can Access security work without a user explicitly
  typing in a password?

  Thank you.

  Regards,

  Steve Erbach
  Scientific Marketing
  Neenah, WI
  www.swerbach.com
  Security Page: www.swerbach.com/security
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From mmattys at rochester.rr.com  Tue Jun  7 05:33:26 2005
From: mmattys at rochester.rr.com (Michael R Mattys)
Date: Tue, 7 Jun 2005 06:33:26 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] More MapPoint Help If Possible
References: <8071615.1118129760195.JavaMail.www@wwinf3101>
Message-ID: <013601c56b4c$58b99110$0202a8c0@default>

Paul,

It's best to have the map _not_ visible, 
or at least locked from refreshing, when 
processing that much data. The graphics
in MapPoint are spectacular, but they take
a lot of resources.

Also, allow MapPoint's own Import Wizard 
to do the work when possible. It will make the
fastest routine you have look silly ... and the 
more data you feed it, the faster it goes!

----

Michael R. Mattys
Mattys MapLib for Microsoft MapPoint 
http://www.mattysconsulting.com


From Gustav at cactus.dk  Tue Jun  7 06:41:48 2005
From: Gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Tue, 07 Jun 2005 13:41:48 +0200
Subject: [AccessD] Access security question
Message-ID: <s2a5a427.074@cactus.dk>

Hi Paul

There's a book on the subject:

http://www.vb123.com/toolshed/00_accvb/accesssecurity.htm

/gustav

>>> paul.hartland at isharp.co.uk 06/07 9:21 am >>>
Talking of Access security, can someone tell me a good point of
reference
for a novice in Access security to get started.  I have tinkered about
with
it before for a very short while without much success.  Basically I
think I
am looking for some sort of total idiots guide to Access Security....

Help/sample web pages etc greatly appreciated....

Paul Hartland 



From erbachs at gmail.com  Tue Jun  7 06:46:55 2005
From: erbachs at gmail.com (Steve Erbach)
Date: Tue, 7 Jun 2005 06:46:55 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Access security question
In-Reply-To: <E61FC1D4B1918244905B113C680BEA86873A75@infoserver01.infostat.local>
References: <E61FC1D4B1918244905B113C680BEA86873A75@infoserver01.infostat.local>
Message-ID: <39cb22f305060704465e9785a8@mail.gmail.com>

Charlotte, Jim, and Kath,

Thanks for the clear responses and resources. I appreciate it.

Steve Erbach

On 6/6/05, Charlotte Foust <cfoust at infostatsystems.com> wrote:
> They can if the BE is not adequately secured, which means at the least
> that the admin user is stripped of permissions and put in the users
> group rather than the admins group.
> 
> Charlotte Foust


Without Access user level security in place on the BE tables, yes.  To
prevent that, they need to be properly secured with user level security and
all the queries will need RWO (Run with owner permissions) set or you need
to open a workspace object with the correct username/password in code.

Jim.


here's the link for the Access security FAQ.

http://support.microsoft.com/support/access/content/secfaq.asp

HTH
Kath


From paul.hartland at isharp.co.uk  Tue Jun  7 06:48:30 2005
From: paul.hartland at isharp.co.uk (Paul Hartland (ISHARP))
Date: Tue, 7 Jun 2005 12:48:30 +0100
Subject: [AccessD] Access security question
In-Reply-To: <s2a5a427.074@cactus.dk>
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Thanks will look into that as well, really need to get upto speed on Access
Security. 

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gustav Brock
Sent: 07 June 2005 12:42
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Access security question

Hi Paul

There's a book on the subject:

http://www.vb123.com/toolshed/00_accvb/accesssecurity.htm

/gustav

>>> paul.hartland at isharp.co.uk 06/07 9:21 am >>>
Talking of Access security, can someone tell me a good point of reference
for a novice in Access security to get started.  I have tinkered about with
it before for a very short while without much success.  Basically I think I
am looking for some sort of total idiots guide to Access Security....

Help/sample web pages etc greatly appreciated....

Paul Hartland 

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From jimdettman at earthlink.net  Tue Jun  7 07:05:26 2005
From: jimdettman at earthlink.net (Jim Dettman)
Date: Tue, 7 Jun 2005 08:05:26 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Access security question
In-Reply-To: <53c8e05a0506061523523a63be@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <NDEALJOEGMMPCDKIFGNFGEGLDFAA.jimdettman@earthlink.net>

Josh,

  First let me say that the security in Access has always been weak.  If
security is a concern, then you need to be using something other then
Access/JET.  This is even outside of the fact that cracking tools for both
database and user level security are now widespread, which makes talking
about Access security at all a rather moot point.  I don't use it at all any
more.  It's not worth the effort.

  Second, keep in mind that we are talking about JET as the database engine,
not with SQL server as the BE.

<<In terms of front-end security, can a front-end truly be locked down
to force a user to remain in the GUI and abide by it's code?>>

  Yes.

<<Coding in C++ with an interface to an Access backend allows you to
allow the user to only work in the program your way, without tinkering
with the tables (you can always password protect the Access database
then encode the password into the program itself).

However, in also using Access as a front end, it seems to me that a
user could still break out the loop and use whatever queries had write
access to manually go in and mess around with things, sometimes
allowing a bypass of a transaction log.>>

  It depends on how you set things up.  If you open workspace objects in
code and access the tables that way and your distributing as a mde, then
there is no way for them to get at them other then through the FE.

  If you setup queries to run with owner permissions, then you must keep
them out of the database container.  That still partially works as they
won't be able to open the tables directly, but they will be able to execute
any of the queries.

  I see someone has already posted the link to the FAQ, which is the #1
resource for the security stuff.  Give it a read if you have time.

Jim.




-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Josh McFarlane
Sent: Monday, June 06, 2005 6:23 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Access security question


On 6/6/05, Jim Dettman <jimdettman at earthlink.net> wrote:
> Steve,
>
> <<Or is it even possible for the application to handle Access security
> like this. That is, can Access security work without a user explicitly
> typing in a password?>>
>
>   Yes it can.  Access security is always "on", it's just that you don't
get
> a password prompt if the admin user has a blank password (JET always
> attempts a logon with username admin and a blank password when it first
> tries to open a database).
>
> <<Lets
> say that the tables in the BE have Access security invoked. If the
> FE/BE is distributed in MDE format with Access Runtime, can a user
> with a full-bore package of Access start the application, break out of
> it, and wind up with all the tables available to him for editing, etc?
> This is provided that the security is administered by the software so
> that the actual security password is not known by the user. Only user
> names and application passwords would be known.>>
>
>   Without Access user level security in place on the BE tables, yes.  To
> prevent that, they need to be properly secured with user level security
and
> all the queries will need RWO (Run with owner permissions) set or you need
> to open a workspace object with the correct username/password in code.
>
> Jim.
Here's another access security question:

In terms of front-end security, can a front-end truly be locked down
to force a user to remain in the GUI and abide by it's code?

Coding in C++ with an interface to an Access backend allows you to
allow the user to only work in the program your way, without tinkering
with the tables (you can always password protect the Access database
then encode the password into the program itself).

However, in also using Access as a front end, it seems to me that a
user could still break out the loop and use whatever queries had write
access to manually go in and mess around with things, sometimes
allowing a bypass of a transaction log.

Can Access be locked down so someone who knows a thing or two about
Access can't modify data directly?

Thanks,
Josh McFarlane

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From BarbaraRyan at cox.net  Tue Jun  7 07:35:16 2005
From: BarbaraRyan at cox.net (Barbara Ryan)
Date: Tue, 7 Jun 2005 08:35:16 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Replication Manager
Message-ID: <003701c56b5d$5bd5dc80$0a00a8c0@cx470148a>

Where I can I find Replication Manager for Access 2002?  Is it a separate interface from the Replication option under Tools in Access 2002?  I can't seem to locate it on the Office XP Pro installation CD.

Thanks,
Barb Ryan

From spikee at oatlandspark.org.uk  Tue Jun  7 07:43:34 2005
From: spikee at oatlandspark.org.uk (Chris Foote (Spike))
Date: Tue, 7 Jun 2005 13:43:34 +0100
Subject: [AccessD] Access-based website "hit" analyser?
Message-ID: <NBBBJDKBBONNJNBIILLHKEBCEFAA.spikee@oatlandspark.org.uk>

Hello listers!

Has anyone got, or know where I can find an Access based "hit" analyser for
an Apache web server.

I'm looking for something to analyse the text log files that I get e-mailed
every 24hours. I could craft my own, but if there is an existing app. that I
could use as a basis...

Regards
Chris Foote - UK




From Chester_Kaup at kindermorgan.com  Tue Jun  7 08:54:37 2005
From: Chester_Kaup at kindermorgan.com (Kaup, Chester)
Date: Tue, 7 Jun 2005 08:54:37 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Code to open table fails
Message-ID: <F1DD538AE6BCE74EBE562DE51564D322D14707@houexch1.kindermorgan.com>

I have used this code in many Access 2003 databases successfully. Just
tried it in a 2003 version database and it will not open the table. I
have checked and the table exists and name matched. I can open the table
no problem from the table list. What may be happening here?

 

Sub TableNames()

 

    Set MyDB = CurrentDb()

    Set AllTableDefs = MyDB.TableDefs

    Set myds = MyDB.OpenRecordset("tbl Table Definitions", dbOpenTable)

 

Chester Kaup

Engineering Technician

Kinder Morgan CO2 Company, LLP

Office (432) 688-3797

FAX (432) 688-3799

 



From jeffrey.demulling at usbank.com  Tue Jun  7 09:10:31 2005
From: jeffrey.demulling at usbank.com (jeffrey.demulling at usbank.com)
Date: Tue, 7 Jun 2005 09:10:31 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Code to open table fails
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Check your references to make sure DAO is selected and then declare your
variables as follows:

Dim MyDB  as DAO.Database
Dim AllTableDefs as DAO.TableDef
Dim myds as DAO.Recordset


Jeffrey F. Demulling
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I have used this code in many Access 2003 databases successfully. Just
tried it in a 2003 version database and it will not open the table. I
have checked and the table exists and name matched. I can open the table
no problem from the table list. What may be happening here?



Sub TableNames()



    Set MyDB = CurrentDb()

    Set AllTableDefs = MyDB.TableDefs

    Set myds = MyDB.OpenRecordset("tbl Table Definitions", dbOpenTable)



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From bheid at appdevgrp.com  Tue Jun  7 09:14:52 2005
From: bheid at appdevgrp.com (Bobby Heid)
Date: Tue, 7 Jun 2005 10:14:52 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Code to open table fails
In-Reply-To: <916187228923D311A6FE00A0CC3FAA30BDC6B6@ADGSERVER>
Message-ID: <916187228923D311A6FE00A0CC3FAA30ABEBFA@ADGSERVER>

What error message are you getting?  
Do you have a reference set to DAO instead of the default ADO?  
If you have a reference to both ADO and DAO, is the DAO first?

Bobby

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Subject: [AccessD] Code to open table fails


I have used this code in many Access 2003 databases successfully. Just tried
it in a 2003 version database and it will not open the table. I have checked
and the table exists and name matched. I can open the table no problem from
the table list. What may be happening here?

 

Sub TableNames()

 

    Set MyDB = CurrentDb()

    Set AllTableDefs = MyDB.TableDefs

    Set myds = MyDB.OpenRecordset("tbl Table Definitions", dbOpenTable)

 

Chester Kaup

Engineering Technician

Kinder Morgan CO2 Company, LLP

Office (432) 688-3797

FAX (432) 688-3799

 

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From Lambert.Heenan at AIG.com  Tue Jun  7 09:21:42 2005
From: Lambert.Heenan at AIG.com (Heenan, Lambert)
Date: Tue, 7 Jun 2005 10:21:42 -0400 
Subject: [AccessD] Code to open table fails
Message-ID: <1D7828CDB8350747AFE9D69E0E90DA1F1121425A@xlivmbx21.aig.com>

Could it be as simple as the spaces in the table name? Have you tried...

Set myds = MyDB.OpenRecordset("[tbl Table Definitions]", dbOpenTable)

...?

Lambert

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Subject: [AccessD] Code to open table fails


I have used this code in many Access 2003 databases successfully. Just tried
it in a 2003 version database and it will not open the table. I have checked
and the table exists and name matched. I can open the table no problem from
the table list. What may be happening here?

 

Sub TableNames()

 

    Set MyDB = CurrentDb()

    Set AllTableDefs = MyDB.TableDefs

    Set myds = MyDB.OpenRecordset("tbl Table Definitions", dbOpenTable)

 

Chester Kaup

Engineering Technician

Kinder Morgan CO2 Company, LLP

Office (432) 688-3797

FAX (432) 688-3799

 

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From Chester_Kaup at kindermorgan.com  Tue Jun  7 09:21:44 2005
From: Chester_Kaup at kindermorgan.com (Kaup, Chester)
Date: Tue, 7 Jun 2005 09:21:44 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Code to open table fails
Message-ID: <F1DD538AE6BCE74EBE562DE51564D322D14729@houexch1.kindermorgan.com>

Thanks! That was it.

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Sent: Tuesday, June 07, 2005 9:11 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Code to open table fails

Check your references to make sure DAO is selected and then declare your
variables as follows:

Dim MyDB  as DAO.Database
Dim AllTableDefs as DAO.TableDef
Dim myds as DAO.Recordset


Jeffrey F. Demulling
Project Manager
U.S. Bank Corporate Trust Services
60 Livingston Avenue
EP-MN-WS3C
St. Paul, MN  55107-2292
Ph: 651-495-3925
Fax: 651-495-8103
email: jeffrey.demulling at usbank.com


 

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I have used this code in many Access 2003 databases successfully. Just
tried it in a 2003 version database and it will not open the table. I
have checked and the table exists and name matched. I can open the table
no problem from the table list. What may be happening here?



Sub TableNames()



    Set MyDB = CurrentDb()

    Set AllTableDefs = MyDB.TableDefs

    Set myds = MyDB.OpenRecordset("tbl Table Definitions", dbOpenTable)



Chester Kaup

Engineering Technician

Kinder Morgan CO2 Company, LLP

Office (432) 688-3797

FAX (432) 688-3799



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From Chester_Kaup at kindermorgan.com  Tue Jun  7 09:22:19 2005
From: Chester_Kaup at kindermorgan.com (Kaup, Chester)
Date: Tue, 7 Jun 2005 09:22:19 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Code to open table fails
Message-ID: <F1DD538AE6BCE74EBE562DE51564D322D1472B@houexch1.kindermorgan.com>

Needed DAO reference. Thanks!

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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Bobby Heid
Sent: Tuesday, June 07, 2005 9:15 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Code to open table fails

What error message are you getting?  
Do you have a reference set to DAO instead of the default ADO?  
If you have a reference to both ADO and DAO, is the DAO first?

Bobby

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[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Kaup, Chester
Sent: Tuesday, June 07, 2005 9:55 AM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [AccessD] Code to open table fails


I have used this code in many Access 2003 databases successfully. Just
tried
it in a 2003 version database and it will not open the table. I have
checked
and the table exists and name matched. I can open the table no problem
from
the table list. What may be happening here?

 

Sub TableNames()

 

    Set MyDB = CurrentDb()

    Set AllTableDefs = MyDB.TableDefs

    Set myds = MyDB.OpenRecordset("tbl Table Definitions", dbOpenTable)

 

Chester Kaup

Engineering Technician

Kinder Morgan CO2 Company, LLP

Office (432) 688-3797

FAX (432) 688-3799

 

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From DWUTKA at marlow.com  Tue Jun  7 09:48:20 2005
From: DWUTKA at marlow.com (DWUTKA at marlow.com)
Date: Tue, 7 Jun 2005 09:48:20 -0500 
Subject: [AccessD] Insert Access Info Into Web page
Message-ID: <123701F54509D9119A4F00D0B747349016D667@main2.marlow.com>

You can open an instance of IE (then go to the site you want to 'dump' the
data too), and you can then interact with IE's document object to insert
your data.

Drew

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From: Res-Com Environmental [mailto:relations at rescom.cc]
Sent: Monday, June 06, 2005 6:38 PM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [AccessD] Insert Access Info Into Web page


Dear List:

Is there a way that Access information (such as names and addresses) can be
inserted into a website's form fields? We are trying to use a businesses
website that doesn't offer special connections so we have to manually enter
information from our database.

Adam
ResCom


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From JRojas at tnco-inc.com  Tue Jun  7 10:10:08 2005
From: JRojas at tnco-inc.com (Joe Rojas)
Date: Tue, 7 Jun 2005 11:10:08 -0400 
Subject: [AccessD] Creating SPC charts
Message-ID: <0CC84C9461AE6445AD5A602001C41C4B05A323@mercury.tnco-inc.com>

Hello,
(Access 2000)

I need to create statistical process control charts. Also known as X-bar
charts, R-charts, ect.

I already have the data but I don't know how to generate these kinds of
charts in Access.
Has anyone created these kinds of charts before?

Thanks!
JR




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From Alun.Garraway at otto.de  Tue Jun  7 10:12:20 2005
From: Alun.Garraway at otto.de (Garraway, Alun)
Date: Tue, 7 Jun 2005 17:12:20 +0200
Subject: [AccessD] deleting first line of a text file?
Message-ID: <D096EDDAA3939B45BEAF0F506801709A0806D9@ntovmail03.ov.otto.de>

hallo,

how do I delete the first line of a text file (whats the command)?

or in other words

Function DeleteFirstLine(strFile As String)
    Dim varFile As Variant
    
    varFile = FreeFile
    Open strFile For Input As #varFile (is open For  Input correct?)
    
   what do I put in here??????????


End Function

TIA :-)
alun


From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com  Tue Jun  7 10:22:48 2005
From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (John W. Colby)
Date: Tue, 7 Jun 2005 11:22:48 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] deleting first line of a text file?
In-Reply-To: <D096EDDAA3939B45BEAF0F506801709A0806D9@ntovmail03.ov.otto.de>
Message-ID: <000001c56b74$c6c5b030$6400a8c0@ColbyM6805>

AFAIK there isn't any such thing.  If you want to do that you need to open a
file for input, another for writing, then read the first file, writing back
to the second file and DON'T write the first line.

John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com 

Contribute your unused CPU cycles to a good cause:
http://folding.stanford.edu/

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Sent: Tuesday, June 07, 2005 11:12 AM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [AccessD] deleting first line of a text file?


hallo,

how do I delete the first line of a text file (whats the command)?

or in other words

Function DeleteFirstLine(strFile As String)
    Dim varFile As Variant
    
    varFile = FreeFile
    Open strFile For Input As #varFile (is open For  Input correct?)
    
   what do I put in here??????????


End Function

TIA :-)
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From bheid at appdevgrp.com  Tue Jun  7 10:32:32 2005
From: bheid at appdevgrp.com (Bobby Heid)
Date: Tue, 7 Jun 2005 11:32:32 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] deleting first line of a text file?
In-Reply-To: <916187228923D311A6FE00A0CC3FAA30BDC6E4@ADGSERVER>
Message-ID: <916187228923D311A6FE00A0CC3FAA30ABEBFD@ADGSERVER>

Unless there's some sort of function that I do not know of, you need to:

1) open output file
2) open input file
3) read line of input file
4) read line of input file
5) write input line to output file
6) if not eof, goto #4.
7) close input file
8) close output file
9) delete input file
10) rename output file with the name of the old input file.

Bobby


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Sent: Tuesday, June 07, 2005 11:12 AM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [AccessD] deleting first line of a text file?


hallo,

how do I delete the first line of a text file (whats the command)?

or in other words

Function DeleteFirstLine(strFile As String)
    Dim varFile As Variant
    
    varFile = FreeFile
    Open strFile For Input As #varFile (is open For  Input correct?)
    
   what do I put in here??????????


End Function

TIA :-)
alun



From cfoust at infostatsystems.com  Tue Jun  7 10:34:06 2005
From: cfoust at infostatsystems.com (Charlotte Foust)
Date: Tue, 7 Jun 2005 08:34:06 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Replication Manager
Message-ID: <E61FC1D4B1918244905B113C680BEA86873A78@infoserver01.infostat.local>

No, it's on the tools menu.  I just don't have replication installed on
this machine, so all I see is the grayed out item on the tools menu.

Charlotte Foust


-----Original Message-----
From: Barbara Ryan [mailto:BarbaraRyan at cox.net] 
Sent: Tuesday, June 07, 2005 5:35 AM
To: Access List
Subject: [AccessD] Replication Manager


Where I can I find Replication Manager for Access 2002?  Is it a
separate interface from the Replication option under Tools in Access
2002?  I can't seem to locate it on the Office XP Pro installation CD.

Thanks,
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From Alun.Garraway at otto.de  Tue Jun  7 10:39:15 2005
From: Alun.Garraway at otto.de (Garraway, Alun)
Date: Tue, 7 Jun 2005 17:39:15 +0200
Subject: [AccessD] deleting first line of a text file?
Message-ID: <D096EDDAA3939B45BEAF0F506801709A017276D6@ntovmail03.ov.otto.de>

AHHHH, got it :-)

thanks John & Bobby

all the best
alun

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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of John W. Colby
Sent: Tuesday, June 07, 2005 5:23 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] deleting first line of a text file?


AFAIK there isn't any such thing.  If you want to do that you need to open a
file for input, another for writing, then read the first file, writing back
to the second file and DON'T write the first line.

John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com 

Contribute your unused CPU cycles to a good cause:
http://folding.stanford.edu/

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Garraway, Alun
Sent: Tuesday, June 07, 2005 11:12 AM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [AccessD] deleting first line of a text file?


hallo,

how do I delete the first line of a text file (whats the command)?

or in other words

Function DeleteFirstLine(strFile As String)
    Dim varFile As Variant
    
    varFile = FreeFile
    Open strFile For Input As #varFile (is open For  Input correct?)
    
   what do I put in here??????????


End Function

TIA :-)
alun
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From MarkBoyd at McBeeAssociates.com  Tue Jun  7 10:49:30 2005
From: MarkBoyd at McBeeAssociates.com (Mark Boyd)
Date: Tue, 7 Jun 2005 11:49:30 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Dates From Previous Month
Message-ID: <974F830FE464C14E8652F95E24DA663C043FB6@mail03.Mcbassoc.com>

I'm looking for a way to get the 1st and last dates from the previous
month.  I'm working on an invoicing app, and need to determine the
previous months date range.  Is there a function, or use of the Format
statement that will give me this info?
 
Thanks,
Mark Boyd
I/S Supervisor
McBee Associates, Inc.
 
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From DWUTKA at marlow.com  Tue Jun  7 10:58:15 2005
From: DWUTKA at marlow.com (DWUTKA at marlow.com)
Date: Tue, 7 Jun 2005 10:58:15 -0500 
Subject: [AccessD] Dates From Previous Month
Message-ID: <123701F54509D9119A4F00D0B747349016D669@main2.marlow.com>

1st Previous month=DateSerial(Year(date),Month(date)-1,1)
Last Previous month=DateSerial(Year(date),month(date),0)

Drew
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Sent: Tuesday, June 07, 2005 10:50 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: [AccessD] Dates From Previous Month


I'm looking for a way to get the 1st and last dates from the previous
month.  I'm working on an invoicing app, and need to determine the
previous months date range.  Is there a function, or use of the Format
statement that will give me this info?
 
Thanks,
Mark Boyd
I/S Supervisor
McBee Associates, Inc.
 
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From jimdettman at earthlink.net  Tue Jun  7 11:05:46 2005
From: jimdettman at earthlink.net (Jim Dettman)
Date: Tue, 7 Jun 2005 12:05:46 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Replication Manager
In-Reply-To: <003701c56b5d$5bd5dc80$0a00a8c0@cx470148a>
Message-ID: <NDEALJOEGMMPCDKIFGNFIEIEDFAA.jimdettman@earthlink.net>


<<I can't seem to locate it on the Office XP Pro installation CD.>>

  It's only in the developers edition.

Jim.

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To: Access List
Subject: [AccessD] Replication Manager


Where I can I find Replication Manager for Access 2002?  Is it a separate
interface from the Replication option under Tools in Access 2002?  I can't
seem to locate it on the Office XP Pro installation CD.

Thanks,
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From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com  Tue Jun  7 11:05:54 2005
From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (John W. Colby)
Date: Tue, 7 Jun 2005 12:05:54 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Dates From Previous Month
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Private Function dateStartRange(intRangeOption As Integer) As Date
On Error GoTo Err_dateStartRange
'Julie Schwalm, Backroads Data, 1999
'Input: interger value of option group containing standard date ranges,
'such as Current Month, Year-to-Date, Last Quarter, etc.  Values equal:
'   1 = Include all Dates
'   2 = Current Month
'   3 = Current Quarter
'   4 = Current Year
'   5 = Month-to-Date
'   6 = Quarter-to-Date
'   7 = Year-to-Date
'   8 = Last Month
'   9 = Last Quarter
'  10 = Last Year
'  11 = Last 12 months
'  12 = Custom Date
'OUTPUT: Date to be placed in unbound text box, representing the beginning
'of the date range for the selected report.
    Dim dateResult As Date
    
    Select Case intRangeOption
        Case 1  'Include all Dates
            Let dateResult = #1/1/1900#
        Case 2, 5   'Current Month
            Let dateResult = DateSerial(Year(Date), Month(Date), 1)
        Case 3, 6
            Let dateResult = DateSerial(Year(Date), Int((Month(Date) - 1) /
3) * 3 + 1, 1)
        Case 4, 7
            Let dateResult = DateSerial(Year(Date), 1, 1)
        Case 8
            Let dateResult = DateSerial(Year(Date), Month(Date) - 1, 1)
        Case 9
            Let dateResult = DateSerial(Year(Date), Int((Month(Date) - 1) /
3) * 3 + 1 - 3, 1)
        Case 10
            Let dateResult = DateSerial(Year(Date) - 1, 1, 1)
        Case 11
            Let dateResult = DateAdd("yyyy", -1, Date) + 1
    End Select
    
    dateStartRange = Format(dateResult, "mm\/dd\/yyyy")
    
Exit_dateStartRange:
Exit Function
Err_dateStartRange:
    Select Case Err
    Case 0      '.insert Errors you wish to ignore here
        Resume Next
    Case Else   '.All other errors will trap
        Beep
        MsgBox Err.Description, , "Error in Function
basDateFunctions.dateStartRange"
        Resume Exit_dateStartRange
    End Select
    Resume 0    '.FOR TROUBLESHOOTING
End Function
Private Function dateEndRange(intRangeOption As Integer) As Date
On Error GoTo Err_dateEndRange
'Julie Schwalm, Backroads Data, 1999
'Input: interger value of option group containing standard date ranges,
'such as Current Month, Year-to-Date, Last Quarter, etc.  Values equal:
'   1 = Include all Dates
'   2 = Current Month
'   3 = Current Quarter
'   4 = Current Year
'   5 = Month-to-Date
'   6 = Quarter-to-Date
'   7 = Year-to-Date
'   8 = Last Month
'   9 = Last Quarter
'  10 = Last Year
'  11 = Last 12 months
'  12 = Custom Date
'OUTPUT: Date to be placed in unbound text box, representing the end
'of the date range for the selected report.
    Dim dateResult As Date
    Dim strDate As Date
    
    Select Case intRangeOption
        Case 1
            Let dateResult = #1/1/2115#
        Case 2
            Let dateResult = DateSerial(Year(Date), Month(Date) + 1, 0)
        Case 3
            Let dateResult = DateSerial(Year(Date), Int((Month(Date) - 1) /
3) * 3 + 4, 0)
        Case 4
            Let dateResult = DateSerial(Year(Date), 12, 31)
        Case 5, 6, 7, 11
            Let dateResult = Date
        Case 8
            Let dateResult = DateSerial(Year(Date), Month(Date), 0)
        Case 9
            Let dateResult = DateSerial(Year(Date), Int((Month(Date) - 1) /
3) * 3 + 4 - 3, 0)
        Case 10
'            Let dateResult = DateAdd("yyyy", -1, Date) + 1
            Let dateResult = DateSerial(Year(Date) - 1, 12, 31)
    End Select
    
    dateEndRange = Format(dateResult, "mm\/dd\/yyyy")
    
Exit_dateEndRange:
Exit Function
Err_dateEndRange:
    Select Case Err
    Case 0      '.insert Errors you wish to ignore here
        Resume Next
    Case Else   '.All other errors will trap
        Beep
        MsgBox Err.Description, , "Error in Function
basDateFunctions.dateEndRange"
        Resume Exit_dateEndRange
    End Select
    Resume 0    '.FOR TROUBLESHOOTING
End Function

John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com 

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[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Mark Boyd
Sent: Tuesday, June 07, 2005 11:49 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: [AccessD] Dates From Previous Month


I'm looking for a way to get the 1st and last dates from the previous month.
I'm working on an invoicing app, and need to determine the previous months
date range.  Is there a function, or use of the Format statement that will
give me this info?
 
Thanks,
Mark Boyd
I/S Supervisor
McBee Associates, Inc.
 
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From MarkBoyd at McBeeAssociates.com  Tue Jun  7 11:15:23 2005
From: MarkBoyd at McBeeAssociates.com (Mark Boyd)
Date: Tue, 7 Jun 2005 12:15:23 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Dates From Previous Month
Message-ID: <974F830FE464C14E8652F95E24DA663C043FB7@mail03.Mcbassoc.com>

Perfect.  Thanks Drew. 

Mark Boyd
I/S Supervisor
McBee Associates, Inc.


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Subject: RE: [AccessD] Dates From Previous Month

1st Previous month=DateSerial(Year(date),Month(date)-1,1)
Last Previous month=DateSerial(Year(date),month(date),0)

Drew
-----Original Message-----
From: Mark Boyd [mailto:MarkBoyd at mcbeeassociates.com]
Sent: Tuesday, June 07, 2005 10:50 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: [AccessD] Dates From Previous Month


I'm looking for a way to get the 1st and last dates from the previous
month.  I'm working on an invoicing app, and need to determine the
previous months date range.  Is there a function, or use of the Format
statement that will give me this info?
 
Thanks,
Mark Boyd
I/S Supervisor
McBee Associates, Inc.
 
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From reuben at gfconsultants.com  Tue Jun  7 11:16:56 2005
From: reuben at gfconsultants.com (Reuben Cummings)
Date: Tue, 7 Jun 2005 11:16:56 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Dates From Previous Month
In-Reply-To: <974F830FE464C14E8652F95E24DA663C043FB6@mail03.Mcbassoc.com>
Message-ID: <JKEJKMLAODCACEAIJLPAAECMDCAA.reuben@gfconsultants.com>

1st of Previous Month = dateserial(year(date()),month(date())-1,1)

Last of previous month = dateadd("d",-1,dateserial(year(date()),
month(date()),1))

Reuben Cummings
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email: reuben at gfconsultants.com


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Mark Boyd
Sent: Tuesday, June 07, 2005 10:50 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: [AccessD] Dates From Previous Month


I'm looking for a way to get the 1st and last dates from the previous
month.  I'm working on an invoicing app, and need to determine the
previous months date range.  Is there a function, or use of the Format
statement that will give me this info?

Thanks,
Mark Boyd
I/S Supervisor
McBee Associates, Inc.

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From reuben at gfconsultants.com  Tue Jun  7 11:20:02 2005
From: reuben at gfconsultants.com (Reuben Cummings)
Date: Tue, 7 Jun 2005 11:20:02 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Dates From Previous Month
In-Reply-To: <123701F54509D9119A4F00D0B747349016D669@main2.marlow.com>
Message-ID: <JKEJKMLAODCACEAIJLPAIECMDCAA.reuben@gfconsultants.com>

Drew, does that mean the 6-0-05 = 5-31-05?

I learned something today.  Thanks.

Reuben Cummings
GFC, LLC
phone: 812.523.1017
email: reuben at gfconsultants.com


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Subject: RE: [AccessD] Dates From Previous Month


1st Previous month=DateSerial(Year(date),Month(date)-1,1)
Last Previous month=DateSerial(Year(date),month(date),0)

Drew
-----Original Message-----
From: Mark Boyd [mailto:MarkBoyd at mcbeeassociates.com]
Sent: Tuesday, June 07, 2005 10:50 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: [AccessD] Dates From Previous Month


I'm looking for a way to get the 1st and last dates from the previous
month.  I'm working on an invoicing app, and need to determine the
previous months date range.  Is there a function, or use of the Format
statement that will give me this info?

Thanks,
Mark Boyd
I/S Supervisor
McBee Associates, Inc.

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From martyconnelly at shaw.ca  Tue Jun  7 11:24:41 2005
From: martyconnelly at shaw.ca (MartyConnelly)
Date: Tue, 07 Jun 2005 09:24:41 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Replication Manager
References: <003701c56b5d$5bd5dc80$0a00a8c0@cx470148a>
Message-ID: <42A5CA49.3070604@shaw.ca>

RepMan 4.0  is on the Office XP Developers Edition, not the Pro Edition,
 funnily enough there is no RepMan for 2003.
I don't know what you do here use VB.Net and JRO or old version of 
RepMan with Access 2003

Documentation within MS-Access 2003 states that this tool is still 
required to setup Internet replicated Access databases.
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;828089

 so, unless you have that RepMan from XP
.... you need to write your own using JRO or use a tool like TSI 
Synchronizer
http://www.trigeminal.com/repl?ication/synch.asp?1033

Note that this is not really true, either -- the TSI Synchronizer depends
upon you having the Jet Synchronizer (which comes with Replication 
Manager).

You do not need Replication Manager to use all forms of Jet replication. 
Replication
Manager is a tool for implementing certain advanced replication
functionalities such as synchronizer configuration for indirect or internet
replication or for changing the the retention period of a replication set.
Also, you do not need to have a copy of Replication Manager on every
computer (and probably shouldn't) since it is only an administrators tool.
Anything that can be done with Replication manager can also be accomplished
using DAO or JRO code

Jet 8 SP has a seperate update for replication

http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?kbid=321076

This shows installation procedures for RepMan

Internet Synchronization with the Microsoft Jet Database Engine: A 
Technical Overview
http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/default.asp?url=/library/en-us/dnacc2k/html/intrjet4.asp

Make sure you have read the replication faq and understand indirect and 
direct synchronization

http://support.microsoft.com/kb/q282977/

Here's some DAO code to illustrate a basic synchronization process of BE 
over a Lan...
'Courtesy Lambert Heenan
Private Sub btnUpdateMaster_Click()
Dim msg As String
Dim sReplicaDb As Variant
Dim sMainStore As String
Dim db As Database

    On Error GoTo btnUpdateMaster_err
    'First get the path to the replica file we will synch. with.
    msg = "This procedure will update the MASTER database with one or more
replica databases.@"
    msg = msg & "Do you with to continue?@"
    If MsgBox(msg, vbYesNo Or vbQuestion, "Synchronize Master Database") =
vbYes Then

        sReplicaDb = sDataToSynchFrom() '

' sDataToSynchFrom() is a function that returns the full path to an MDB file

        If sReplicaDb & "" = ""  Then Exit Sub
        sMainStore = GetAttachedDbName(GetFirstAttachedtable)

' GetAttachedDbName() is a function that returns the full path to the back
end database
' given the name of one of the linked tables

        ' sanity check
        If sMainStore = sReplicaDb Then
            MsgBox "Cannot synchronize your main data file with
itself. at Please select the correct replica data file to synchronize with.@",
, "Invalid data file selected"
            Exit Sub
        End If
        DoCmd.Hourglass True
' here is where the synchronization takes place
        Set db = OpenDatabase(sMainStore)
' this does a one-way synchronizatin - just importing changes in the data.
' you can also do two way using the constant "dbRepImpExpChanges"
        db.Synchronize sReplicaDb, dbRepImportChanges
        RenameSynchedFile CStr(sReplicaDb)
        DoCmd.Hourglass False
        MsgBox "Synchronization completed", , "Synchronize Master Database"
    End If
btnUpdateMaster_Click_Exit:
    Set db = Nothing
    Exit Sub
btnUpdateMaster_err:
    DoCmd.Hourglass False
' put your favorite error handler here
    MsgBox "Error synchronizing with " & sReplicaDb & "@" & Err.Description
& "@Error number " & Err.Number
    Resume btnUpdateMaster_Click_Exit
End Sub


Barbara Ryan wrote:

>Where I can I find Replication Manager for Access 2002?  Is it a separate interface from the Replication option under Tools in Access 2002?  I can't seem to locate it on the Office XP Pro installation CD.
>
>Thanks,
>Barb Ryan
>  
>

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From martyconnelly at shaw.ca  Tue Jun  7 11:41:09 2005
From: martyconnelly at shaw.ca (MartyConnelly)
Date: Tue, 07 Jun 2005 09:41:09 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Insert Access Info Into Web page
References: <JIEKIIMEGLDLMJDHKMOLKELPCEAA.relations@rescom.cc>
Message-ID: <42A5CE25.1030709@shaw.ca>


Here are a few good ASP sites:
o ASP101 Samples - http://www.asp101.com/samples
o W3Schools ASP Tutorial - http://www.w3schools.com/asp
o Microsoft VBScript Language Reference -
http://msdn.microsoft.com/scri?pting/default.htm?/scripting/V?BScript/d...

There are several 100 dollar asp IIS Access solutions like

http://www.access2asp.com/

Or for a "quick and dirty" generic ASP open source solution to putting
databases on the Web (often works well for the admin area of a Web site)
that just requires setting up a configuration page for each table or
query and uploading the database to the Web as long as there is an
autonumber field in each table (and you'll probably also separately want
to create login capabilities), perhaps try something like this:
GenericDB by Eli Robillard. It has been around for 7 years
and is used in a lot of university labs.
http://www.genericdb.com and then click on the Tips link to see an
example


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http://aspadvice.com/SignUp/list.aspx?l=63&c=11

Res-Com Environmental wrote:

>Dear List:
>
>Is there a way that Access information (such as names and addresses) can be
>inserted into a website's form fields? We are trying to use a businesses
>website that doesn't offer special connections so we have to manually enter
>information from our database.
>
>Adam
>ResCom
>
>
>  
>

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From iggy at nanaimo.ark.com  Tue Jun  7 12:19:36 2005
From: iggy at nanaimo.ark.com (Tony Septav)
Date: Tue, 07 Jun 2005 10:19:36 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Converting Access97 app to 2000
Message-ID: <42A5D728.4080206@nanaimo.ark.com>

Hey All

I have converted my first Access97 application to Access2000. Everything 
seems to be working fine.  I have not as yet gone through and changed my 
declarations to DAO.Recordset, DAO.Database, etc..  Are there any other 
things I should be aware of.?

And I know some of you are saying "Geez about time".
I am planning on purchasing Access2003, but one step at a time, it is 
hard to teach an old dog new tricks.


From DWUTKA at marlow.com  Tue Jun  7 12:13:00 2005
From: DWUTKA at marlow.com (DWUTKA at marlow.com)
Date: Tue, 7 Jun 2005 12:13:00 -0500 
Subject: [AccessD] Dates From Previous Month
Message-ID: <123701F54509D9119A4F00D0B747349016D66B@main2.marlow.com>

No problem, glad to help.

Drew

-----Original Message-----
From: Mark Boyd [mailto:MarkBoyd at mcbeeassociates.com]
Sent: Tuesday, June 07, 2005 11:15 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Dates From Previous Month


Perfect.  Thanks Drew. 

Mark Boyd
I/S Supervisor
McBee Associates, Inc.


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DWUTKA at marlow.com
Sent: Tuesday, June 07, 2005 11:58 AM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Dates From Previous Month

1st Previous month=DateSerial(Year(date),Month(date)-1,1)
Last Previous month=DateSerial(Year(date),month(date),0)

Drew
-----Original Message-----
From: Mark Boyd [mailto:MarkBoyd at mcbeeassociates.com]
Sent: Tuesday, June 07, 2005 10:50 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: [AccessD] Dates From Previous Month


I'm looking for a way to get the 1st and last dates from the previous
month.  I'm working on an invoicing app, and need to determine the
previous months date range.  Is there a function, or use of the Format
statement that will give me this info?
 
Thanks,
Mark Boyd
I/S Supervisor
McBee Associates, Inc.
 
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From DWUTKA at marlow.com  Tue Jun  7 12:13:27 2005
From: DWUTKA at marlow.com (DWUTKA at marlow.com)
Date: Tue, 7 Jun 2005 12:13:27 -0500 
Subject: [AccessD] Dates From Previous Month
Message-ID: <123701F54509D9119A4F00D0B747349016D66C@main2.marlow.com>

It does to that function....

Drew

-----Original Message-----
From: Reuben Cummings [mailto:reuben at gfconsultants.com]
Sent: Tuesday, June 07, 2005 11:20 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Dates From Previous Month


Drew, does that mean the 6-0-05 = 5-31-05?

I learned something today.  Thanks.

Reuben Cummings
GFC, LLC
phone: 812.523.1017
email: reuben at gfconsultants.com


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Sent: Tuesday, June 07, 2005 10:58 AM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Dates From Previous Month


1st Previous month=DateSerial(Year(date),Month(date)-1,1)
Last Previous month=DateSerial(Year(date),month(date),0)

Drew
-----Original Message-----
From: Mark Boyd [mailto:MarkBoyd at mcbeeassociates.com]
Sent: Tuesday, June 07, 2005 10:50 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: [AccessD] Dates From Previous Month


I'm looking for a way to get the 1st and last dates from the previous
month.  I'm working on an invoicing app, and need to determine the
previous months date range.  Is there a function, or use of the Format
statement that will give me this info?

Thanks,
Mark Boyd
I/S Supervisor
McBee Associates, Inc.

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From cfoust at infostatsystems.com  Tue Jun  7 12:22:04 2005
From: cfoust at infostatsystems.com (Charlotte Foust)
Date: Tue, 7 Jun 2005 10:22:04 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Replication Manager
Message-ID: <E61FC1D4B1918244905B113C680BEA86873A7B@infoserver01.infostat.local>

It may be in VSTO, along with the rest of the developer tools for
Access.

Charlotte Foust


-----Original Message-----
From: MartyConnelly [mailto:martyconnelly at shaw.ca] 
Sent: Tuesday, June 07, 2005 9:25 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Replication Manager


RepMan 4.0  is on the Office XP Developers Edition, not the Pro Edition,
funnily enough there is no RepMan for 2003. I don't know what you do
here use VB.Net and JRO or old version of 
RepMan with Access 2003

Documentation within MS-Access 2003 states that this tool is still 
required to setup Internet replicated Access databases.
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;828089

 so, unless you have that RepMan from XP
.... you need to write your own using JRO or use a tool like TSI 
Synchronizer http://www.trigeminal.com/repl-ication/synch.asp?1033

Note that this is not really true, either -- the TSI Synchronizer
depends upon you having the Jet Synchronizer (which comes with
Replication 
Manager).

You do not need Replication Manager to use all forms of Jet replication.

Replication
Manager is a tool for implementing certain advanced replication
functionalities such as synchronizer configuration for indirect or
internet replication or for changing the the retention period of a
replication set. Also, you do not need to have a copy of Replication
Manager on every computer (and probably shouldn't) since it is only an
administrators tool. Anything that can be done with Replication manager
can also be accomplished using DAO or JRO code

Jet 8 SP has a seperate update for replication

http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?kbid=321076

This shows installation procedures for RepMan

Internet Synchronization with the Microsoft Jet Database Engine: A 
Technical Overview
http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/default.asp?url=/library/en-us/dnacc2k
/html/intrjet4.asp

Make sure you have read the replication faq and understand indirect and 
direct synchronization

http://support.microsoft.com/kb/q282977/

Here's some DAO code to illustrate a basic synchronization process of BE

over a Lan...
'Courtesy Lambert Heenan
Private Sub btnUpdateMaster_Click()
Dim msg As String
Dim sReplicaDb As Variant
Dim sMainStore As String
Dim db As Database

    On Error GoTo btnUpdateMaster_err
    'First get the path to the replica file we will synch. with.
    msg = "This procedure will update the MASTER database with one or
more replica databases.@"
    msg = msg & "Do you with to continue?@"
    If MsgBox(msg, vbYesNo Or vbQuestion, "Synchronize Master Database")
= vbYes Then

        sReplicaDb = sDataToSynchFrom() '

' sDataToSynchFrom() is a function that returns the full path to an MDB
file

        If sReplicaDb & "" = ""  Then Exit Sub
        sMainStore = GetAttachedDbName(GetFirstAttachedtable)

' GetAttachedDbName() is a function that returns the full path to the
back end database ' given the name of one of the linked tables

        ' sanity check
        If sMainStore = sReplicaDb Then
            MsgBox "Cannot synchronize your main data file with
itself. at Please select the correct replica data file to synchronize
with.@", , "Invalid data file selected"
            Exit Sub
        End If
        DoCmd.Hourglass True
' here is where the synchronization takes place
        Set db = OpenDatabase(sMainStore)
' this does a one-way synchronizatin - just importing changes in the
data. ' you can also do two way using the constant "dbRepImpExpChanges"
        db.Synchronize sReplicaDb, dbRepImportChanges
        RenameSynchedFile CStr(sReplicaDb)
        DoCmd.Hourglass False
        MsgBox "Synchronization completed", , "Synchronize Master
Database"
    End If
btnUpdateMaster_Click_Exit:
    Set db = Nothing
    Exit Sub
btnUpdateMaster_err:
    DoCmd.Hourglass False
' put your favorite error handler here
    MsgBox "Error synchronizing with " & sReplicaDb & "@" &
Err.Description & "@Error number " & Err.Number
    Resume btnUpdateMaster_Click_Exit
End Sub


Barbara Ryan wrote:

>Where I can I find Replication Manager for Access 2002?  Is it a 
>separate interface from the Replication option under Tools in Access 
>2002?  I can't seem to locate it on the Office XP Pro installation CD.
>
>Thanks,
>Barb Ryan
>  
>

-- 
Marty Connelly
Victoria, B.C.
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From cfoust at infostatsystems.com  Tue Jun  7 12:28:29 2005
From: cfoust at infostatsystems.com (Charlotte Foust)
Date: Tue, 7 Jun 2005 10:28:29 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Converting Access97 app to 2000
Message-ID: <E61FC1D4B1918244905B113C680BEA8689A34C@infoserver01.infostat.local>

Several things.  If you ever played with pipe concatenation (if you
don't know what it is, you haven't), you'll have to change it to
standard concatenation because 2000 and higher don't interpret it
properly.  If you use parameter queries that reference forms, you'll
have to go into the queries and make sure the query parameters use
proper referencing like [forms]![MyForm]![MyControl].  If any of the
brackets around any of the sections are missing, 2000 and later will put
brackets around the whole thing, like [forms!MyForm![MyControl]], which
breaks the query.  Using @ in messagebox prompts to bold parts of the
text no longer works in 2000+, so you'll have to deal with that if you
used it.

If you used any common controls (calendar controls, datetime picker,
OpenFile dialog, etc.) you'll need to make sure the references point to
the VB6 version, becase the VB5 versions don't work in 2000+.

Charlotte Foust


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Sent: Tuesday, June 07, 2005 10:20 AM
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Subject: [AccessD] Converting Access97 app to 2000


Hey All

I have converted my first Access97 application to Access2000. Everything

seems to be working fine.  I have not as yet gone through and changed my

declarations to DAO.Recordset, DAO.Database, etc..  Are there any other 
things I should be aware of.?

And I know some of you are saying "Geez about time".
I am planning on purchasing Access2003, but one step at a time, it is 
hard to teach an old dog new tricks.
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From BarbaraRyan at cox.net  Tue Jun  7 12:45:32 2005
From: BarbaraRyan at cox.net (Barbara Ryan)
Date: Tue, 7 Jun 2005 13:45:32 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Replication Manager
References: <003701c56b5d$5bd5dc80$0a00a8c0@cx470148a>
	<42A5CA49.3070604@shaw.ca>
Message-ID: <00af01c56b88$b3f79a40$0a00a8c0@cx470148a>

Thanks, Marty.....I REALLY appreciate all this information.  I'm sure it
took a bit of time to pull it all together....Barb


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Subject: Re: [AccessD] Replication Manager


> RepMan 4.0  is on the Office XP Developers Edition, not the Pro Edition,
>  funnily enough there is no RepMan for 2003.
> I don't know what you do here use VB.Net and JRO or old version of
> RepMan with Access 2003
>
> Documentation within MS-Access 2003 states that this tool is still
> required to setup Internet replicated Access databases.
> http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;828089
>
>  so, unless you have that RepMan from XP
> .... you need to write your own using JRO or use a tool like TSI
> Synchronizer
> http://www.trigeminal.com/repl?ication/synch.asp?1033
>
> Note that this is not really true, either -- the TSI Synchronizer depends
> upon you having the Jet Synchronizer (which comes with Replication
> Manager).
>
> You do not need Replication Manager to use all forms of Jet replication.
> Replication
> Manager is a tool for implementing certain advanced replication
> functionalities such as synchronizer configuration for indirect or
internet
> replication or for changing the the retention period of a replication set.
> Also, you do not need to have a copy of Replication Manager on every
> computer (and probably shouldn't) since it is only an administrators tool.
> Anything that can be done with Replication manager can also be
accomplished
> using DAO or JRO code
>
> Jet 8 SP has a seperate update for replication
>
> http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?kbid=321076
>
> This shows installation procedures for RepMan
>
> Internet Synchronization with the Microsoft Jet Database Engine: A
> Technical Overview
>
http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/default.asp?url=/library/en-us/dnacc2k/html/intrjet4.asp
>
> Make sure you have read the replication faq and understand indirect and
> direct synchronization
>
> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/q282977/
>
> Here's some DAO code to illustrate a basic synchronization process of BE
> over a Lan...
> 'Courtesy Lambert Heenan
> Private Sub btnUpdateMaster_Click()
> Dim msg As String
> Dim sReplicaDb As Variant
> Dim sMainStore As String
> Dim db As Database
>
>     On Error GoTo btnUpdateMaster_err
>     'First get the path to the replica file we will synch. with.
>     msg = "This procedure will update the MASTER database with one or more
> replica databases.@"
>     msg = msg & "Do you with to continue?@"
>     If MsgBox(msg, vbYesNo Or vbQuestion, "Synchronize Master Database") =
> vbYes Then
>
>         sReplicaDb = sDataToSynchFrom() '
>
> ' sDataToSynchFrom() is a function that returns the full path to an MDB
file
>
>         If sReplicaDb & "" = ""  Then Exit Sub
>         sMainStore = GetAttachedDbName(GetFirstAttachedtable)
>
> ' GetAttachedDbName() is a function that returns the full path to the back
> end database
> ' given the name of one of the linked tables
>
>         ' sanity check
>         If sMainStore = sReplicaDb Then
>             MsgBox "Cannot synchronize your main data file with
> itself. at Please select the correct replica data file to synchronize
with.@",
> , "Invalid data file selected"
>             Exit Sub
>         End If
>         DoCmd.Hourglass True
> ' here is where the synchronization takes place
>         Set db = OpenDatabase(sMainStore)
> ' this does a one-way synchronizatin - just importing changes in the data.
> ' you can also do two way using the constant "dbRepImpExpChanges"
>         db.Synchronize sReplicaDb, dbRepImportChanges
>         RenameSynchedFile CStr(sReplicaDb)
>         DoCmd.Hourglass False
>         MsgBox "Synchronization completed", , "Synchronize Master
Database"
>     End If
> btnUpdateMaster_Click_Exit:
>     Set db = Nothing
>     Exit Sub
> btnUpdateMaster_err:
>     DoCmd.Hourglass False
> ' put your favorite error handler here
>     MsgBox "Error synchronizing with " & sReplicaDb & "@" &
Err.Description
> & "@Error number " & Err.Number
>     Resume btnUpdateMaster_Click_Exit
> End Sub
>
>
> Barbara Ryan wrote:
>
> >Where I can I find Replication Manager for Access 2002?  Is it a separate
interface from the Replication option under Tools in Access 2002?  I can't
seem to locate it on the Office XP Pro installation CD.
> >
> >Thanks,
> >Barb Ryan
> >
> >
>
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From iggy at nanaimo.ark.com  Tue Jun  7 13:04:04 2005
From: iggy at nanaimo.ark.com (Tony Septav)
Date: Tue, 07 Jun 2005 11:04:04 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Converting Access97 app to 2000
Message-ID: <42A5E194.30200@nanaimo.ark.com>

Thanks Charlotte, much appreciated.


From accessd at shaw.ca  Tue Jun  7 13:15:20 2005
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Tue, 07 Jun 2005 11:15:20 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Insert Access Info Into Web page
In-Reply-To: <123701F54509D9119A4F00D0B747349016D667@main2.marlow.com>
Message-ID: <0IHQ004IK81HAL@l-daemon>

Hi Drew:

...That is supposing a superior knowledge in the use of both the MSHTML.TBL
library, Java-Script and write access to the web site. Check out:
http://www.cpcug.org/user/clemenzi/technical/Databases/WebAccess.html for a
simple sample of Access web access.

HTH
Jim

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Sent: Tuesday, June 07, 2005 7:48 AM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Insert Access Info Into Web page

You can open an instance of IE (then go to the site you want to 'dump' the
data too), and you can then interact with IE's document object to insert
your data.

Drew

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Sent: Monday, June 06, 2005 6:38 PM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [AccessD] Insert Access Info Into Web page


Dear List:

Is there a way that Access information (such as names and addresses) can be
inserted into a website's form fields? We are trying to use a businesses
website that doesn't offer special connections so we have to manually enter
information from our database.

Adam
ResCom


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From dwaters at usinternet.com  Tue Jun  7 15:05:15 2005
From: dwaters at usinternet.com (Dan Waters)
Date: Tue, 7 Jun 2005 13:05:15 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Creating SPC charts
In-Reply-To: <3354369.1118157678779.JavaMail.root@sniper17>
Message-ID: <000201c56b9c$398031a0$54018e0a@danwaters>

Hi Joe,

I am a Quality Engineer and have made many SPC charts!  But none in Access
yet.  You can use MS Graph to make these - pretty much anything you can
create in Excel you can make in MS Graph.  

All the best!

Dan Waters


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Sent: Tuesday, June 07, 2005 8:10 AM
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Subject: [AccessD] Creating SPC charts

Hello,
(Access 2000)

I need to create statistical process control charts. Also known as X-bar
charts, R-charts, ect.

I already have the data but I don't know how to generate these kinds of
charts in Access.
Has anyone created these kinds of charts before?

Thanks!
JR




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From Jim.Hale at FleetPride.com  Tue Jun  7 15:31:32 2005
From: Jim.Hale at FleetPride.com (Hale, Jim)
Date: Tue, 7 Jun 2005 15:31:32 -0500 
Subject: [AccessD] Excel Macro Automation from within Access
Message-ID: <6A6AA9DF57E4F046BDA1E273BDDB677233763F@corp-es01.fleetpride.com>

I believe MicoSith is vaguely ashamed of the Kill statement since it derives
from a simpler era when such barbaric practices were the norm.  Rumors
indicate, as part of their agreement with the European Union, the command
will be 
renamed TerminatedWithoutPrejudice. The damage may have already been done,
however, since certain large files have already requested amnesty and are
seeking refuge in certain unnamed hidden folders. :-)

Jim Hale

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Sent: Monday, June 06, 2005 1:56 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Excel Macro Automation from within Access


Great idea.  I wasn't aware of the Kill statement.  My plan was to shell
a batch file to delete it, but this is much easier.

Thanks again,
Mark Boyd
I/S Supervisor
McBee Associates, Inc.


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[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Hale, Jim
Sent: Monday, June 06, 2005 2:43 PM
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Subject: RE: [AccessD] Excel Macro Automation from within Access

I'm glad it worked for you. I was thinking that you might want to add a 
	Kill strpathname 'deletes original Excel sheet statement after
the new copy has been saved so you are left with only the new copy.

Jim Hale

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Subject: RE: [AccessD] Excel Macro Automation from within Access


Thanks Jim.  This is perfect!

Mark Boyd
I/S Supervisor
McBee Associates, Inc.


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[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Hale, Jim
Sent: Thursday, June 02, 2005 10:10 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Excel Macro Automation from within Access

I think the sequence you are looking for is similar to this:

Sub rpt_to_excel()
Dim appExcel As Excel.Application, strpathname As String Dim strpathnew
As String, strReport As String

strpathname = "C:\test.xls"
strpathnew = "C:\test2.xls"
strReport = "rptInvsummary"
DoCmd.OutputTo acOutputReport, strReport, acFormatXLS, strpathname

 Set appExcel = New Excel.Application
 
 'format your report
    With appExcel
        .Workbooks.Open strpathname, 0
        .Visible = True 'just to watch the sheet
        .Range("A1:G1").Select
        .Selection.Font.Bold = True
        .Selection.Font.Name = "Arial"
        .Selection.Font.Size = 12
        .ActiveWorkbook.SaveAs Filename:=strpathnew,FileFormat:=xlNormal
    End With
     appExcel.Quit
    Set appExcel = Nothing
End Sub

This opens the file you output and saves it as a current version
workbook under a new name. 

As you debug be aware of leaving orphan instances of Excel in memory.
You can tell if any exist by placing the following script in notepad and
running
it:

Dim objXL
	Dim strMessage
	
	On Error Resume Next
	
	'	Try to grab a running instance of
	'	Excel...
	Set objXL = GetObject(, "Excel.Application")
	
	'	What did we find?..
	If Not TypeName(objXL) = "Empty" Then
		strMessage = "Excel Running."
	Else
		strMessage = "Excel Not Running."
	End If
	
	'	Feedback to user...
	MsgBox strMessage, vbInformation, "Excel Status"
	
	'	Make the Excel instance visible 
	'	if we found one
	if strMessage = "Excel Running." then _
				objXL.Visible = true 

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Sent: Wednesday, June 01, 2005 5:21 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Excel Macro Automation from within Access


Thanks Jim, this is pointing me in the right direction.

The export process is as follows:
1. Export report to Excel
2. Format report w/ macro
3. Save formatting changes
4. Attach file to email message

When using the SaveAs method, I'm prompted to overwrite the existing
excel file (the one just formatted).  Am I missing something in regard
to the properties of the SaveAs method, that will allow me to save the
existing, formatted file?  If I select Yes to overwrite the existing
file, all of the macro formats are lost.


Mark Boyd
I/S Supervisor
McBee Associates, Inc.



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From stuart at lexacorp.com.pg  Tue Jun  7 17:33:00 2005
From: stuart at lexacorp.com.pg (Stuart McLachlan)
Date: Wed, 08 Jun 2005 08:33:00 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] Dates From Previous Month
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On 7 Jun 2005 at 11:20, Reuben Cummings wrote:

> Drew, does that mean the 6-0-05 = 5-31-05?
> 
> I learned something today.  Thanks.
> 

As well a 0, try playing around with negative numbers in both the month and 
day parameters of DateSerial

It's often easier than using DateAdd :-)

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From DWUTKA at marlow.com  Tue Jun  7 19:18:13 2005
From: DWUTKA at marlow.com (DWUTKA at marlow.com)
Date: Tue, 7 Jun 2005 19:18:13 -0500 
Subject: [AccessD] Dates From Previous Month
Message-ID: <123701F54509D9119A4F00D0B747349016D678@main2.marlow.com>

I usually chuckle when I see DateAdd all over the place.  I find DateSerial
to be tremendously effective.  One of the more useful purposes is dealing
the 'international' dates.....DateSerial is universally Year, Month,
Day....so there is no need to worry about local settings, if you use it
properly. 

Not trying to bring up the internationally compliant thread... <grin>

Drew

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Subject: RE: [AccessD] Dates From Previous Month


On 7 Jun 2005 at 11:20, Reuben Cummings wrote:

> Drew, does that mean the 6-0-05 = 5-31-05?
> 
> I learned something today.  Thanks.
> 

As well a 0, try playing around with negative numbers in both the month and 
day parameters of DateSerial

It's often easier than using DateAdd :-)

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From chise at charter.net  Tue Jun  7 20:38:36 2005
From: chise at charter.net (Charles Hise)
Date: Tue, 7 Jun 2005 20:38:36 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] For Charles Hise - Fw: Returned mail: see transcript
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Sorry, try chise at parkplacecare.com

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Charles Hise:

I'm trying to send you the Sleep Advisor but your address seems to be hosed.

Do you have another one?

Rocky

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From JRojas at tnco-inc.com  Tue Jun  7 20:53:44 2005
From: JRojas at tnco-inc.com (Joe Rojas)
Date: Tue, 7 Jun 2005 21:53:44 -0400 
Subject: [AccessD] Creating SPC charts
Message-ID: <0CC84C9461AE6445AD5A602001C41C4B05A32B@mercury.tnco-inc.com>

Thanks Dan!

I was hoping you were going to say that. I wanted to try and keep this all
in Access.

When you say "MS Graph", does this mean the same thing as inserting a chart
in an access report by going to Insert -> Chart? Or is this something
different?

Thanks,
JR

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Sent: Tuesday, June 07, 2005 4:05 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Creating SPC charts

Hi Joe,

I am a Quality Engineer and have made many SPC charts!  But none in Access
yet.  You can use MS Graph to make these - pretty much anything you can
create in Excel you can make in MS Graph. 

All the best!

Dan Waters


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Subject: [AccessD] Creating SPC charts

Hello,
(Access 2000)

I need to create statistical process control charts. Also known as X-bar
charts, R-charts, ect.

I already have the data but I don't know how to generate these kinds of
charts in Access.
Has anyone created these kinds of charts before?

Thanks!
JR




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From accessd at shaw.ca  Tue Jun  7 20:55:21 2005
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Tue, 07 Jun 2005 18:55:21 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Excel Macro Automation from within Access
In-Reply-To: <6A6AA9DF57E4F046BDA1E273BDDB677233763F@corp-es01.fleetpride.com>
Message-ID: <0IHQ00E1UTC50D@l-daemon>

Jin...very funny.

Jim

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Hale, Jim
Sent: Tuesday, June 07, 2005 1:32 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Excel Macro Automation from within Access

I believe MicoSith is vaguely ashamed of the Kill statement since it derives
from a simpler era when such barbaric practices were the norm.  Rumors
indicate, as part of their agreement with the European Union, the command
will be 
renamed TerminatedWithoutPrejudice. The damage may have already been done,
however, since certain large files have already requested amnesty and are
seeking refuge in certain unnamed hidden folders. :-)

Jim Hale

-----Original Message-----
From: Mark Boyd [mailto:MarkBoyd at mcbeeassociates.com]
Sent: Monday, June 06, 2005 1:56 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Excel Macro Automation from within Access


Great idea.  I wasn't aware of the Kill statement.  My plan was to shell
a batch file to delete it, but this is much easier.

Thanks again,
Mark Boyd
I/S Supervisor
McBee Associates, Inc.


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Hale, Jim
Sent: Monday, June 06, 2005 2:43 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Excel Macro Automation from within Access

I'm glad it worked for you. I was thinking that you might want to add a 
	Kill strpathname 'deletes original Excel sheet statement after
the new copy has been saved so you are left with only the new copy.

Jim Hale

-----Original Message-----
From: Mark Boyd [mailto:MarkBoyd at mcbeeassociates.com]
Sent: Monday, June 06, 2005 11:31 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Excel Macro Automation from within Access


Thanks Jim.  This is perfect!

Mark Boyd
I/S Supervisor
McBee Associates, Inc.


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Hale, Jim
Sent: Thursday, June 02, 2005 10:10 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Excel Macro Automation from within Access

I think the sequence you are looking for is similar to this:

Sub rpt_to_excel()
Dim appExcel As Excel.Application, strpathname As String Dim strpathnew
As String, strReport As String

strpathname = "C:\test.xls"
strpathnew = "C:\test2.xls"
strReport = "rptInvsummary"
DoCmd.OutputTo acOutputReport, strReport, acFormatXLS, strpathname

 Set appExcel = New Excel.Application
 
 'format your report
    With appExcel
        .Workbooks.Open strpathname, 0
        .Visible = True 'just to watch the sheet
        .Range("A1:G1").Select
        .Selection.Font.Bold = True
        .Selection.Font.Name = "Arial"
        .Selection.Font.Size = 12
        .ActiveWorkbook.SaveAs Filename:=strpathnew,FileFormat:=xlNormal
    End With
     appExcel.Quit
    Set appExcel = Nothing
End Sub

This opens the file you output and saves it as a current version
workbook under a new name. 

As you debug be aware of leaving orphan instances of Excel in memory.
You can tell if any exist by placing the following script in notepad and
running
it:

Dim objXL
	Dim strMessage
	
	On Error Resume Next
	
	'	Try to grab a running instance of
	'	Excel...
	Set objXL = GetObject(, "Excel.Application")
	
	'	What did we find?..
	If Not TypeName(objXL) = "Empty" Then
		strMessage = "Excel Running."
	Else
		strMessage = "Excel Not Running."
	End If
	
	'	Feedback to user...
	MsgBox strMessage, vbInformation, "Excel Status"
	
	'	Make the Excel instance visible 
	'	if we found one
	if strMessage = "Excel Running." then _
				objXL.Visible = true 

-----Original Message-----
From: Mark Boyd [mailto:MarkBoyd at mcbeeassociates.com]
Sent: Wednesday, June 01, 2005 5:21 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Excel Macro Automation from within Access


Thanks Jim, this is pointing me in the right direction.

The export process is as follows:
1. Export report to Excel
2. Format report w/ macro
3. Save formatting changes
4. Attach file to email message

When using the SaveAs method, I'm prompted to overwrite the existing
excel file (the one just formatted).  Am I missing something in regard
to the properties of the SaveAs method, that will allow me to save the
existing, formatted file?  If I select Yes to overwrite the existing
file, all of the macro formats are lost.


Mark Boyd
I/S Supervisor
McBee Associates, Inc.



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From Bruce.Bruen at railcorp.nsw.gov.au  Tue Jun  7 21:51:25 2005
From: Bruce.Bruen at railcorp.nsw.gov.au (Bruen, Bruce)
Date: Wed, 8 Jun 2005 12:51:25 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] Access-based website "hit" analyser?
Message-ID: <F2BE8EAB3EA585418337B71BCE6F3BF304EBAF@msmet100.rail.nsw.gov.au>

Check out ClickTracks at www.clicktracks.com.au
Hth
bruce 

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Sent: Tuesday, 7 June 2005 10:44 PM
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Subject: [AccessD] Access-based website "hit" analyser?

Hello listers!

Has anyone got, or know where I can find an Access based "hit" analyser
for an Apache web server.

I'm looking for something to analyse the text log files that I get
e-mailed every 24hours. I could craft my own, but if there is an
existing app. that I could use as a basis...

Regards
Chris Foote - UK


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From viner at EUnet.yu  Wed Jun  8 01:12:55 2005
From: viner at EUnet.yu (Ervin Brindza)
Date: Wed, 8 Jun 2005 08:12:55 +0200
Subject: [AccessD] Insert Access Info Into Web page
References: <JIEKIIMEGLDLMJDHKMOLKELPCEAA.relations@rescom.cc>
	<42A5CE25.1030709@shaw.ca>
Message-ID: <013801c56bf1$23408b10$0100a8c0@RazvojErvin>

Adam,
try to find an article in the Database Journal:
Convert Access Tables Into ASP Web Pages by Danny Lesandrini
HTH,

    Ervin

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Sent: Tuesday, June 07, 2005 6:41 PM
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Insert Access Info Into Web page


>
> Here are a few good ASP sites:
> o ASP101 Samples - http://www.asp101.com/samples
> o W3Schools ASP Tutorial - http://www.w3schools.com/asp
> o Microsoft VBScript Language Reference -
> http://msdn.microsoft.com/scri?pting/default.htm?/scripting/V?BScript/d...
>
> There are several 100 dollar asp IIS Access solutions like
>
> http://www.access2asp.com/
>
> Or for a "quick and dirty" generic ASP open source solution to putting
> databases on the Web (often works well for the admin area of a Web site)
> that just requires setting up a configuration page for each table or
> query and uploading the database to the Web as long as there is an
> autonumber field in each table (and you'll probably also separately want
> to create login capabilities), perhaps try something like this:
> GenericDB by Eli Robillard. It has been around for 7 years
> and is used in a lot of university labs.
> http://www.genericdb.com and then click on the Tips link to see an
> example
>
>
> Mail List at
> http://aspadvice.com/SignUp/list.aspx?l=63&c=11
>
> Res-Com Environmental wrote:
>
> >Dear List:
> >
> >Is there a way that Access information (such as names and addresses) can
be
> >inserted into a website's form fields? We are trying to use a businesses
> >website that doesn't offer special connections so we have to manually
enter
> >information from our database.
> >
> >Adam
> >ResCom
> >
> >
> >
> >
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From Chris.Foote at uk.thalesgroup.com  Wed Jun  8 05:44:44 2005
From: Chris.Foote at uk.thalesgroup.com (Foote, Chris)
Date: Wed, 8 Jun 2005 11:44:44 +0100 
Subject: [AccessD] Access-based website "hit" analyser?
Message-ID: <97CF276BD8C6D4119C4B00508BB18DE709E0C778@ntscxch1.int.rdel.co.uk>

Thanks for that Bruce!

My hosting company (http://www.dsvr.co.uk/) provides and supports Webalizer
(http://www.webalizer.com) . I've had problems setting-up Webalizer so was
looking for an Access alternative.

Thanks again for your reply!

Chris Foote - UK

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Bruen, Bruce [mailto:Bruce.Bruen at railcorp.nsw.gov.au]
> Sent: Wednesday, June 08, 2005 3:51 AM
> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> Subject: RE: [AccessD] Access-based website "hit" analyser?
> 
> 
> Check out ClickTracks at www.clicktracks.com.au
> Hth
> bruce 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
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> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Chris Foote
> (Spike)
> Sent: Tuesday, 7 June 2005 10:44 PM
> To: AccessD at databaseadvisors.com
> Subject: [AccessD] Access-based website "hit" analyser?
> 
> Hello listers!
> 
> Has anyone got, or know where I can find an Access based 
> "hit" analyser
> for an Apache web server.
> 
> I'm looking for something to analyse the text log files that I get
> e-mailed every 24hours. I could craft my own, but if there is an
> existing app. that I could use as a basis...
> 
> Regards
> Chris Foote - UK
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From paul.hartland at fsmail.net  Wed Jun  8 06:55:49 2005
From: paul.hartland at fsmail.net (paul.hartland at fsmail.net)
Date: Wed,  8 Jun 2005 13:55:49 +0200 (CEST)
Subject: [AccessD] OT - Looping Through Controls on Visual Basic Form
Message-ID: <13281180.1118231749723.JavaMail.www@wwinf3102>

To all, 

I have a lot of text boxes, combo boxes and check boxes on a form and need them locked for certain users I tried the following code to loop through them and when txt, pv or chk is found to lock or disable the control but it doesn't work....

Dim intFields As Integer
    For intFields = 0 To frmClient.Controls.Count
        If (Left(frmClient.Controls(intFields).Name, 3) = "chk" Or Left(frmClient.Controls(intFields).Name, 3) = "txt") Then
            frmClient(frmClient.Controls(intFields).Name).Locked = True
        End If
        If (Left(frmClient.Controls(intFields).Name, 2) = "PV") Then
            frmClient(frmClient.Controls(intFields).Name).Enabled = False
        End If
    Next intFields

can anyone tell me what I am doing wrong cause I can't seem to see the wood for the tree's at the moment...

Thanks in advance for all your help...

Paul Hartland

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From RRANTHON at sentara.com  Wed Jun  8 07:02:45 2005
From: RRANTHON at sentara.com (Randall R Anthony)
Date: Wed, 08 Jun 2005 08:02:45 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] OT - Looping Through Controls on Visual Basic
	Form
Message-ID: <200506081202.j58C2ws07457@databaseadvisors.com>

Paul,
This is what I'm currently using to do just what you described.  I'm
sure it can be manipulated to search on specific control names, although
I have not done it because I don't need the specificity.

For Each cCtrl In frmFormName.Controls
            If TypeOf cCtrl Is TextBox Then
                cCtrl.Locked = True
            End If
            If TypeOf cCtrl Is ComboBox Then
                cCtrl.Locked = True
            End If
            If TypeOf cCtrl Is DBGrid Then
                cCtrl.AllowAddNew = False
                cCtrl.AllowDelete = False
                cCtrl.AllowUpdate = False
            End If
        Next


From ssharkins at bellsouth.net  Wed Jun  8 07:14:13 2005
From: ssharkins at bellsouth.net (Susan Harkins)
Date: Wed, 8 Jun 2005 08:14:13 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] OT - Looping Through Controls on Visual Basic Form
In-Reply-To: <13281180.1118231749723.JavaMail.www@wwinf3102>
Message-ID: <20050608121416.MKX25470.ibm57aec.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>

It worked for me -- almost. 

I had to qualify all the form references by adding Forms! -- and it worked.


Also, I think you need to add -1 to the count definition: 

 For intFields = 0 To frmClient.Controls.Count - 1

Susan H. 

To all, 

I have a lot of text boxes, combo boxes and check boxes on a form and need
them locked for certain users I tried the following code to loop through
them and when txt, pv or chk is found to lock or disable the control but it
doesn't work....

Dim intFields As Integer
    For intFields = 0 To frmClient.Controls.Count
        If (Left(frmClient.Controls(intFields).Name, 3) = "chk" Or
Left(frmClient.Controls(intFields).Name, 3) = "txt") Then
            frmClient(frmClient.Controls(intFields).Name).Locked = True
        End If
        If (Left(frmClient.Controls(intFields).Name, 2) = "PV") Then
            frmClient(frmClient.Controls(intFields).Name).Enabled = False
        End If
    Next intFields

can anyone tell me what I am doing wrong cause I can't seem to see the wood
for the tree's at the moment...

Thanks in advance for all your help...

Paul Hartland

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From bheygood at abestsystems.com  Wed Jun  8 08:35:15 2005
From: bheygood at abestsystems.com (Bob Heygood)
Date: Wed, 8 Jun 2005 06:35:15 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Scrape Word Part II
In-Reply-To: <6A6AA9DF57E4F046BDA1E273BDDB6772337511@corp-es01.fleetpride.com>
Message-ID: <AIEKKBIAKDJNAFGABNJKIEPICMAA.bheygood@abestsystems.com>

Hello to the list,

Well, my project is alive again. This time I have the luxury of being able
to create the Word document from which I need to cull the info. I still need
to have a Word table but I can create bookmarks or whatever within the table
in the document.
To recap I need to import 10 pieces of text from a Word document and store
them in a mdb table.
Jim Hale's code below worked really good except that we were pressed for
time and did not ever get it to work in all areas of the Word doc.
So my first question is how to search the Word doc to find the text,
bookmarks, fields, custom properties or ????


TIA,

Bob Heygood

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Hale, Jim
Sent: Monday, April 18, 2005 8:54 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Scrape Word


Whatever it takes to get the job done! Sorry I couldn't be more help.
Jim Hale

-----Original Message-----
From: Bob Heygood [mailto:bheygood at abestsystems.com]
Sent: Monday, April 18, 2005 10:09 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Scrape Word


Thanks Jim
I finally just ran the job as it took about 4 hours to process 256
documents.
it is a one time deal and the customer needed to have the results.

your help was fantastic.

bob



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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Hale, Jim
Sent: Friday, April 15, 2005 3:18 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Scrape Word


I'll look at it some more on Monday. You might examine the selection object
in the Word application. It has numerous properties and methods one or more
of which should do the trick.
Jim Hale

-----Original Message-----
From: Bob Heygood [mailto:bheygood at abestsystems.com]
Sent: Friday, April 15, 2005 4:52 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Scrape Word


yes in a table cell.
again your code is working super.
but only grabs the first word, sometimes there is more than one word in the
cell, and I would like to capture all of them.
if you have thought, I would welcome it.


again I tried to manipulate the code further but it acts very erratic when
in a table cell.

thanks for the great help.

bob


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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Hale, Jim
Sent: Thursday, April 14, 2005 12:53 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Scrape Word


So the data you want (including the search string) is in a table cell? In
the code I sent you delete
   wd.Selection.Start = wd.Selection.End
   Call wd.Selection.EndOf(wdSentence, wdExtend)

and replace with
   wd.Selection.Next(Unit:=wdWord, Count:=1).Select

Or if the entire string is returned you can replace the search string with
an empty string "" using the following function:

Function ReplaceString(strTextIn As String, strFind As String, strReplace As
String, fCaseSensitive As Boolean) As String

  Dim strTmp As String
  Dim intPos As Integer
  Dim intCaseSensitive As Integer

  intCaseSensitive = IIf(fCaseSensitive, 2, 1)

  strTmp = strTextIn
  intPos = InStr(1, strTmp, strFind, intCaseSensitive)

  Do While intPos > 0
    strTmp = Left$(strTmp, intPos - 1) & strReplace & Mid$(strTmp, intPos +
Len(strFind))
    intPos = InStr(intPos + Len(strReplace), strTmp, strFind,
intCaseSensitive)
  Loop

  ReplaceString = strTmp

End Function

Jim Hale


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From paul.hartland at isharp.co.uk  Wed Jun  8 09:35:52 2005
From: paul.hartland at isharp.co.uk (Paul Hartland (ISHARP))
Date: Wed, 8 Jun 2005 15:35:52 +0100
Subject: [AccessD] OT - Looping Through Controls on Visual BasicForm
In-Reply-To: <200506081202.j58C2ws07457@databaseadvisors.com>
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Thanks ever so much, makes my life so much easier

Paul Hartland 

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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Randall R Anthony
Sent: 08 June 2005 13:03
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: Re: [AccessD] OT - Looping Through Controls on Visual BasicForm

Paul,
This is what I'm currently using to do just what you described.  I'm sure it
can be manipulated to search on specific control names, although I have not
done it because I don't need the specificity.

For Each cCtrl In frmFormName.Controls
            If TypeOf cCtrl Is TextBox Then
                cCtrl.Locked = True
            End If
            If TypeOf cCtrl Is ComboBox Then
                cCtrl.Locked = True
            End If
            If TypeOf cCtrl Is DBGrid Then
                cCtrl.AllowAddNew = False
                cCtrl.AllowDelete = False
                cCtrl.AllowUpdate = False
            End If
        Next
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From RRANTHON at sentara.com  Wed Jun  8 09:45:20 2005
From: RRANTHON at sentara.com (Randall R Anthony)
Date: Wed, 08 Jun 2005 10:45:20 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] OT - Looping Through Controls on Visual
	BasicForm
Message-ID: <200506081445.j58EjTs14443@databaseadvisors.com>

Glad to be able to help.

>>> paul.hartland at isharp.co.uk 6/8/2005 10:35:52 AM >>>
Thanks ever so much, makes my life so much easier

Paul Hartland 

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com 
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Randall R
Anthony
Sent: 08 June 2005 13:03
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com 
Subject: Re: [AccessD] OT - Looping Through Controls on Visual
BasicForm

Paul,
This is what I'm currently using to do just what you described.  I'm
sure it
can be manipulated to search on specific control names, although I have
not
done it because I don't need the specificity.

For Each cCtrl In frmFormName.Controls
            If TypeOf cCtrl Is TextBox Then
                cCtrl.Locked = True
            End If
            If TypeOf cCtrl Is ComboBox Then
                cCtrl.Locked = True
            End If
            If TypeOf cCtrl Is DBGrid Then
                cCtrl.AllowAddNew = False
                cCtrl.AllowDelete = False
                cCtrl.AllowUpdate = False
            End If
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From darsant at gmail.com  Wed Jun  8 09:57:21 2005
From: darsant at gmail.com (Josh McFarlane)
Date: Wed, 8 Jun 2005 09:57:21 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] OT - Looping Through Controls on Visual Basic Form
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On 6/8/05, paul.hartland at fsmail.net <paul.hartland at fsmail.net> wrote:
> To all,
> 
> I have a lot of text boxes, combo boxes and check boxes on a form and need them locked for certain users I tried the following code to loop through them and when txt, pv or chk is found to lock or disable the control but it doesn't work....
> 
> Dim intFields As Integer
>     For intFields = 0 To frmClient.Controls.Count
>         If (Left(frmClient.Controls(intFields).Name, 3) = "chk" Or Left(frmClient.Controls(intFields).Name, 3) = "txt") Then
>             frmClient(frmClient.Controls(intFields).Name).Locked = True
>         End If
>         If (Left(frmClient.Controls(intFields).Name, 2) = "PV") Then
>             frmClient(frmClient.Controls(intFields).Name).Enabled = False
>         End If
>     Next intFields
> 
> can anyone tell me what I am doing wrong cause I can't seem to see the wood for the tree's at the moment...
> 
> Thanks in advance for all your help...
> 
> Paul Hartland
Sorry I'm getting into this a little late.

I think you might want to take a look into the tag property for
controls. You label controls with any tags (or a number of tags) and
then search for controls based on that tag, and disable / enable
accordingly.

This really comes in handy when different sets of controls need to be
enabled / disabled for different states. Basic structure is a For Each
statement. If you're interested I can give you a code sample.

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From paul.hartland at fsmail.net  Wed Jun  8 10:06:14 2005
From: paul.hartland at fsmail.net (paul.hartland at fsmail.net)
Date: Wed,  8 Jun 2005 17:06:14 +0200 (CEST)
Subject: [AccessD] OT - Looping Through Controls on Visual Basic Form
Message-ID: <2212784.1118243174470.JavaMail.www@wwinf3001>

Thanks but have already had one, I ended up using the For Each as you suggested...

Thanks for the help anyway...

Paul Hartland





Message date : Jun 08 2005, 04:02 PM
>From : "Josh McFarlane" 
To : "Access Developers discussion and problem solving" 
Copy to : 
Subject : Re: [AccessD] OT - Looping Through Controls on Visual Basic Form
On 6/8/05, paul.hartland at fsmail.net wrote:
> To all,
> 
> I have a lot of text boxes, combo boxes and check boxes on a form and need them locked for certain users I tried the following code to loop through them and when txt, pv or chk is found to lock or disable the control but it doesn't work....
> 
> Dim intFields As Integer
> For intFields = 0 To frmClient.Controls.Count
> If (Left(frmClient.Controls(intFields).Name, 3) = "chk" Or Left(frmClient.Controls(intFields).Name, 3) = "txt") Then
> frmClient(frmClient.Controls(intFields).Name).Locked = True
> End If
> If (Left(frmClient.Controls(intFields).Name, 2) = "PV") Then
> frmClient(frmClient.Controls(intFields).Name).Enabled = False
> End If
> Next intFields
> 
> can anyone tell me what I am doing wrong cause I can't seem to see the wood for the tree's at the moment...
> 
> Thanks in advance for all your help...
> 
> Paul Hartland
Sorry I'm getting into this a little late.

I think you might want to take a look into the tag property for
controls. You label controls with any tags (or a number of tags) and
then search for controls based on that tag, and disable / enable
accordingly.

This really comes in handy when different sets of controls need to be
enabled / disabled for different states. Basic structure is a For Each
statement. If you're interested I can give you a code sample.

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From Jim.Hale at FleetPride.com  Wed Jun  8 10:17:02 2005
From: Jim.Hale at FleetPride.com (Hale, Jim)
Date: Wed, 8 Jun 2005 10:17:02 -0500 
Subject: [AccessD] Scrape Word Part II
Message-ID: <6A6AA9DF57E4F046BDA1E273BDDB6772337644@corp-es01.fleetpride.com>

At the very bottom of this link Helen Feddema has some code that may help
you.
http://www.helenfeddema.com/CodeSamples.htm

Jim Hale

-----Original Message-----
From: Bob Heygood [mailto:bheygood at abestsystems.com]
Sent: Wednesday, June 08, 2005 8:35 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: [AccessD] Scrape Word Part II


Hello to the list,

Well, my project is alive again. This time I have the luxury of being able
to create the Word document from which I need to cull the info. I still need
to have a Word table but I can create bookmarks or whatever within the table
in the document.
To recap I need to import 10 pieces of text from a Word document and store
them in a mdb table.
Jim Hale's code below worked really good except that we were pressed for
time and did not ever get it to work in all areas of the Word doc.
So my first question is how to search the Word doc to find the text,
bookmarks, fields, custom properties or ????


TIA,

Bob Heygood

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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
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Sent: Monday, April 18, 2005 8:54 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Scrape Word


Whatever it takes to get the job done! Sorry I couldn't be more help.
Jim Hale

-----Original Message-----
From: Bob Heygood [mailto:bheygood at abestsystems.com]
Sent: Monday, April 18, 2005 10:09 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Scrape Word


Thanks Jim
I finally just ran the job as it took about 4 hours to process 256
documents.
it is a one time deal and the customer needed to have the results.

your help was fantastic.

bob



-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Hale, Jim
Sent: Friday, April 15, 2005 3:18 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Scrape Word


I'll look at it some more on Monday. You might examine the selection object
in the Word application. It has numerous properties and methods one or more
of which should do the trick.
Jim Hale

-----Original Message-----
From: Bob Heygood [mailto:bheygood at abestsystems.com]
Sent: Friday, April 15, 2005 4:52 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Scrape Word


yes in a table cell.
again your code is working super.
but only grabs the first word, sometimes there is more than one word in the
cell, and I would like to capture all of them.
if you have thought, I would welcome it.


again I tried to manipulate the code further but it acts very erratic when
in a table cell.

thanks for the great help.

bob


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Hale, Jim
Sent: Thursday, April 14, 2005 12:53 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Scrape Word


So the data you want (including the search string) is in a table cell? In
the code I sent you delete
   wd.Selection.Start = wd.Selection.End
   Call wd.Selection.EndOf(wdSentence, wdExtend)

and replace with
   wd.Selection.Next(Unit:=wdWord, Count:=1).Select

Or if the entire string is returned you can replace the search string with
an empty string "" using the following function:

Function ReplaceString(strTextIn As String, strFind As String, strReplace As
String, fCaseSensitive As Boolean) As String

  Dim strTmp As String
  Dim intPos As Integer
  Dim intCaseSensitive As Integer

  intCaseSensitive = IIf(fCaseSensitive, 2, 1)

  strTmp = strTextIn
  intPos = InStr(1, strTmp, strFind, intCaseSensitive)

  Do While intPos > 0
    strTmp = Left$(strTmp, intPos - 1) & strReplace & Mid$(strTmp, intPos +
Len(strFind))
    intPos = InStr(intPos + Len(strReplace), strTmp, strFind,
intCaseSensitive)
  Loop

  ReplaceString = strTmp

End Function

Jim Hale


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From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com  Wed Jun  8 10:40:54 2005
From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (John W. Colby)
Date: Wed, 08 Jun 2005 11:40:54 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] No anonymous logon allowed
Message-ID: <002b01c56c40$796535f0$6c7aa8c0@ColbyM6805>

When I try and use FireFox to logon to my ftp site I get "Sorry, no
anonymous logon allowed".  It does not pop up the box for asking for the
user name / password.  Any idea why not and how to make it do so?

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From nkling at co.montgomery.ny.us  Wed Jun  8 10:42:02 2005
From: nkling at co.montgomery.ny.us (Neal Kling)
Date: Wed, 8 Jun 2005 11:42:02 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] No anonymous logon allowed
Message-ID: <30BC111F638EB54082001A7E7282FE4107F3AD@elmo.co.montgomery.ny.us>

Tools: Options: Web Features
The Block Popup Windows check box may be blocking it.

You should be able to add your site to the exceptions list.

Neal

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Sent: Wednesday, June 08, 2005 11:41 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] No anonymous logon allowed


When I try and use FireFox to logon to my ftp site I get "Sorry, no
anonymous logon allowed".  It does not pop up the box for asking for the
user name / password.  Any idea why not and how to make it do so?

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From carbonnb at gmail.com  Wed Jun  8 10:48:37 2005
From: carbonnb at gmail.com (Bryan Carbonnell)
Date: Wed, 8 Jun 2005 11:48:37 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] No anonymous logon allowed
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On 6/8/05, John W. Colby <jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com> wrote:
> When I try and use FireFox to logon to my ftp site I get "Sorry, no
> anonymous logon allowed".  It does not pop up the box for asking for the
> user name / password.  Any idea why not and how to make it do so?

I believe the default is to use anonymous logins for ftp sites.

If you want to login with a specific user, you will have to use the
following format for the URL:

ftp://username at you.host.tld

This will prompt you for the password.

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From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com  Wed Jun  8 10:51:33 2005
From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (John W. Colby)
Date: Wed, 08 Jun 2005 11:51:33 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] No anonymous logon allowed
In-Reply-To: <30BC111F638EB54082001A7E7282FE4107F3AD@elmo.co.montgomery.ny.us>
Message-ID: <002c01c56c41$f4e8d1e0$6c7aa8c0@ColbyM6805>

Nope, that's apparently not it.  I added my site, no help.  I am talking
about the FTP username/password dialog.

John W. Colby
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-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Neal Kling
Sent: Wednesday, June 08, 2005 11:42 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] No anonymous logon allowed


Tools: Options: Web Features
The Block Popup Windows check box may be blocking it.

You should be able to add your site to the exceptions list.

Neal

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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of John W. Colby
Sent: Wednesday, June 08, 2005 11:41 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] No anonymous logon allowed


When I try and use FireFox to logon to my ftp site I get "Sorry, no
anonymous logon allowed".  It does not pop up the box for asking for the
user name / password.  Any idea why not and how to make it do so?

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From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com  Wed Jun  8 11:01:52 2005
From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (John W. Colby)
Date: Wed, 08 Jun 2005 12:01:52 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] No anonymous logon allowed
In-Reply-To: <e04a6c920506080848dc1af4b@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <002f01c56c43$65da4860$6c7aa8c0@ColbyM6805>

Well, that does it.  FireFox sure sucks as a FTP manager though.  IE at
least allows you to use the windows explorer to drag and drop files both
directions.

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Sent: Wednesday, June 08, 2005 11:49 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] No anonymous logon allowed


On 6/8/05, John W. Colby <jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com> wrote:
> When I try and use FireFox to logon to my ftp site I get "Sorry, no 
> anonymous logon allowed".  It does not pop up the box for asking for 
> the user name / password.  Any idea why not and how to make it do so?

I believe the default is to use anonymous logins for ftp sites.

If you want to login with a specific user, you will have to use the
following format for the URL:

ftp://username at you.host.tld

This will prompt you for the password.

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From john at winhaven.net  Wed Jun  8 11:05:25 2005
From: john at winhaven.net (John Bartow)
Date: Wed, 8 Jun 2005 11:05:25 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] No anonymous logon allowed
In-Reply-To: <e04a6c920506080848dc1af4b@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <200506081605.j58G5UM3358744@pimout2-ext.prodigy.net>

And you do have to include the ftp:// otherwise for some odd reason it jumps
back to http://

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Sent: Wednesday, June 08, 2005 10:49 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] No anonymous logon allowed

On 6/8/05, John W. Colby <jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com> wrote:
> When I try and use FireFox to logon to my ftp site I get "Sorry, no 
> anonymous logon allowed".  It does not pop up the box for asking for 
> the user name / password.  Any idea why not and how to make it do so?

I believe the default is to use anonymous logins for ftp sites.

If you want to login with a specific user, you will have to use the
following format for the URL:

ftp://username at you.host.tld

This will prompt you for the password.

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From Lambert.Heenan at AIG.com  Wed Jun  8 11:05:37 2005
From: Lambert.Heenan at AIG.com (Heenan, Lambert)
Date: Wed, 8 Jun 2005 12:05:37 -0400 
Subject: [AccessD] No anonymous logon allowed
Message-ID: <1D7828CDB8350747AFE9D69E0E90DA1F112146B5@xlivmbx21.aig.com>

Have you tried using the neat FTP extension for firefox, fireFTP? It's at...

https://addons.mozilla.org/extensions/moreinfo.php?id=684

Lambert


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of John W. Colby
Sent: Wednesday, June 08, 2005 11:52 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] No anonymous logon allowed


Nope, that's apparently not it.  I added my site, no help.  I am talking
about the FTP username/password dialog.

John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com 

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-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Neal Kling
Sent: Wednesday, June 08, 2005 11:42 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] No anonymous logon allowed


Tools: Options: Web Features
The Block Popup Windows check box may be blocking it.

You should be able to add your site to the exceptions list.

Neal

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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of John W. Colby
Sent: Wednesday, June 08, 2005 11:41 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] No anonymous logon allowed


When I try and use FireFox to logon to my ftp site I get "Sorry, no
anonymous logon allowed".  It does not pop up the box for asking for the
user name / password.  Any idea why not and how to make it do so?

John W. Colby
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From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com  Wed Jun  8 11:12:58 2005
From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (John W. Colby)
Date: Wed, 08 Jun 2005 12:12:58 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] No anonymous logon allowed
In-Reply-To: <1D7828CDB8350747AFE9D69E0E90DA1F112146B5@xlivmbx21.aig.com>
Message-ID: <003001c56c44$eff11fa0$6c7aa8c0@ColbyM6805>

Lambert,

I haven't.  I've just heard too Many horror stories about FF and addins.

John W. Colby
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-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Heenan, Lambert
Sent: Wednesday, June 08, 2005 12:06 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] No anonymous logon allowed


Have you tried using the neat FTP extension for firefox, fireFTP? It's at...

https://addons.mozilla.org/extensions/moreinfo.php?id=684

Lambert


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of John W. Colby
Sent: Wednesday, June 08, 2005 11:52 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] No anonymous logon allowed


Nope, that's apparently not it.  I added my site, no help.  I am talking
about the FTP username/password dialog.

John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com 

Contribute your unused CPU cycles to a good cause:
http://folding.stanford.edu/

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Neal Kling
Sent: Wednesday, June 08, 2005 11:42 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] No anonymous logon allowed


Tools: Options: Web Features
The Block Popup Windows check box may be blocking it.

You should be able to add your site to the exceptions list.

Neal

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of John W. Colby
Sent: Wednesday, June 08, 2005 11:41 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] No anonymous logon allowed


When I try and use FireFox to logon to my ftp site I get "Sorry, no
anonymous logon allowed".  It does not pop up the box for asking for the
user name / password.  Any idea why not and how to make it do so?

John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com 

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From Gustav at cactus.dk  Wed Jun  8 11:24:02 2005
From: Gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Wed, 08 Jun 2005 18:24:02 +0200
Subject: [AccessD] No anonymous logon allowed
Message-ID: <s2a737e2.026@cactus.dk>

** Low Priority **

Hi John et all

Wouldn't this question fit perfectly on our dba-tech list?

/gustav

>>> jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com 06/08 5:40 pm >>>
When I try and use FireFox to logon to my ftp site ..


From Lambert.Heenan at AIG.com  Wed Jun  8 11:28:07 2005
From: Lambert.Heenan at AIG.com (Heenan, Lambert)
Date: Wed, 8 Jun 2005 12:28:07 -0400 
Subject: [AccessD] No anonymous logon allowed
Message-ID: <1D7828CDB8350747AFE9D69E0E90DA1F112146CC@xlivmbx21.aig.com>

I doubt that they (horror stories about FF) are even close in number to the
horror stories we have about IE! 

The only hassle I've had with FireFox (tempting fate, I know) is with the
FlashBlock extension. On some sites that insist of showing us whiz-bang
flash animations, FF will crash in flashblock is enabled. I suspect that the
advertisers may have planed little bombs in the flash animations to force us
to look at them. Thus far the only sites I've come across that do this (and
then only intermittently) are www.refdesk.com and the drudge report. Losing
Drudge was no hardship, but I like Refdest - so I just enable flash for the
problem sites and get on with life. The FTP entn. Works very well for me.

Lambert

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of John W. Colby
Sent: Wednesday, June 08, 2005 12:13 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] No anonymous logon allowed


Lambert,

I haven't.  I've just heard too Many horror stories about FF and addins.

John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com 

Contribute your unused CPU cycles to a good cause:
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-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Heenan, Lambert
Sent: Wednesday, June 08, 2005 12:06 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] No anonymous logon allowed


Have you tried using the neat FTP extension for firefox, fireFTP? It's at...

https://addons.mozilla.org/extensions/moreinfo.php?id=684

Lambert


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of John W. Colby
Sent: Wednesday, June 08, 2005 11:52 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] No anonymous logon allowed


Nope, that's apparently not it.  I added my site, no help.  I am talking
about the FTP username/password dialog.

John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com 

Contribute your unused CPU cycles to a good cause:
http://folding.stanford.edu/

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Neal Kling
Sent: Wednesday, June 08, 2005 11:42 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] No anonymous logon allowed


Tools: Options: Web Features
The Block Popup Windows check box may be blocking it.

You should be able to add your site to the exceptions list.

Neal

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of John W. Colby
Sent: Wednesday, June 08, 2005 11:41 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] No anonymous logon allowed


When I try and use FireFox to logon to my ftp site I get "Sorry, no
anonymous logon allowed".  It does not pop up the box for asking for the
user name / password.  Any idea why not and how to make it do so?

John W. Colby
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From john at winhaven.net  Wed Jun  8 12:18:44 2005
From: john at winhaven.net (John Bartow)
Date: Wed, 8 Jun 2005 12:18:44 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] No anonymous logon allowed
In-Reply-To: <s2a737e2.026@cactus.dk>
Message-ID: <200506081718.j58HImM3393102@pimout2-ext.prodigy.net>

Yes Gustav, you're correct! Sometimes I forget which list I'm replying
too...

John B. 

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gustav Brock
Sent: Wednesday, June 08, 2005 11:24 AM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: Re: [AccessD] No anonymous logon allowed
Importance: Low

** Low Priority **

Hi John et all

Wouldn't this question fit perfectly on our dba-tech list?

/gustav

>>> jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com 06/08 5:40 pm >>>
When I try and use FireFox to logon to my ftp site ..
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From dwaters at usinternet.com  Wed Jun  8 12:38:54 2005
From: dwaters at usinternet.com (Dan Waters)
Date: Wed, 8 Jun 2005 10:38:54 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Creating SPC charts
In-Reply-To: <17102778.1118195814428.JavaMail.root@sniper16>
Message-ID: <000001c56c50$f1e1fcb0$35018e0a@danwaters>

Joe,

That's it!  But let me get back to you again later today with a little more
info.

Dan Waters


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Joe Rojas
Sent: Tuesday, June 07, 2005 6:54 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Creating SPC charts

Thanks Dan!

I was hoping you were going to say that. I wanted to try and keep this all
in Access.

When you say "MS Graph", does this mean the same thing as inserting a chart
in an access report by going to Insert -> Chart? Or is this something
different?

Thanks,
JR

-----Original Message-----
From: Dan Waters [mailto:dwaters at usinternet.com]
Sent: Tuesday, June 07, 2005 4:05 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Creating SPC charts

Hi Joe,

I am a Quality Engineer and have made many SPC charts!  But none in Access
yet.  You can use MS Graph to make these - pretty much anything you can
create in Excel you can make in MS Graph. 

All the best!

Dan Waters


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[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Joe Rojas
Sent: Tuesday, June 07, 2005 8:10 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] Creating SPC charts

Hello,
(Access 2000)

I need to create statistical process control charts. Also known as X-bar
charts, R-charts, ect.

I already have the data but I don't know how to generate these kinds of
charts in Access.
Has anyone created these kinds of charts before?

Thanks!
JR




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From carbonnb at gmail.com  Wed Jun  8 12:52:50 2005
From: carbonnb at gmail.com (Bryan Carbonnell)
Date: Wed, 8 Jun 2005 13:52:50 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] No anonymous logon allowed
In-Reply-To: <002f01c56c43$65da4860$6c7aa8c0@ColbyM6805>
References: <e04a6c920506080848dc1af4b@mail.gmail.com>
	<002f01c56c43$65da4860$6c7aa8c0@ColbyM6805>
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On 6/8/05, John W. Colby <jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com> wrote:
> Well, that does it.  FireFox sure sucks as a FTP manager though.  IE at
> least allows you to use the windows explorer to drag and drop files both
> directions.

That's because FF is a web browser. Not an FTP client.

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From stuart at lexacorp.com.pg  Wed Jun  8 13:44:35 2005
From: stuart at lexacorp.com.pg (Stuart McLachlan)
Date: Thu, 09 Jun 2005 04:44:35 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] No anonymous logon allowed
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On 8 Jun 2005 at 13:52, Bryan Carbonnell wrote:

> On 6/8/05, John W. Colby <jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com> wrote:
> > Well, that does it.  FireFox sure sucks as a FTP manager though.  IE at
> > least allows you to use the windows explorer to drag and drop files both
> > directions.
> 
> That's because FF is a web browser. Not an FTP client.
> 
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From fhtapia at gmail.com  Wed Jun  8 17:48:20 2005
From: fhtapia at gmail.com (Francisco Tapia)
Date: Wed, 8 Jun 2005 15:48:20 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Access 2003, and ADPs
Message-ID: <b874372a05060815484fc72c6d@mail.gmail.com>

I just got my copy of Access 2003 along w/ the Developer Extensions...
IF I open up Access 2003 and create a blank ADP, I noticed in the
title bar that the file format is in Access 2000 instead of Access
2003... did I misconfigure something?


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From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com  Wed Jun  8 17:56:07 2005
From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (John W. Colby)
Date: Wed, 08 Jun 2005 18:56:07 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Access 2003, and ADPs
In-Reply-To: <b874372a05060815484fc72c6d@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <004001c56c7d$4166dfe0$6c7aa8c0@ColbyM6805>

I think it is just a continuation of the bug (never fixed) that prevents
compacting any containers after 2K.  Thus the default is to build containers
in the 2K format since they can be compacted.

John W. Colby
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Sent: Wednesday, June 08, 2005 6:48 PM
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Subject: [AccessD] Access 2003, and ADPs


I just got my copy of Access 2003 along w/ the Developer Extensions... IF I
open up Access 2003 and create a blank ADP, I noticed in the title bar that
the file format is in Access 2000 instead of Access 2003... did I
misconfigure something?


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From fhtapia at gmail.com  Wed Jun  8 18:45:09 2005
From: fhtapia at gmail.com (Francisco Tapia)
Date: Wed, 8 Jun 2005 16:45:09 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Access 2003, and ADPs
In-Reply-To: <004001c56c7d$4166dfe0$6c7aa8c0@ColbyM6805>
References: <b874372a05060815484fc72c6d@mail.gmail.com>
	<004001c56c7d$4166dfe0$6c7aa8c0@ColbyM6805>
Message-ID: <b874372a05060816456ba79a62@mail.gmail.com>

huh?

damn nobody mentioned this bug when I first asked about problems w/
Access 2003 (before I bought it...) I'm having buyer's remorse ;)

I did a bit of diggin around and if I start a new db, then I can go
into options and choose 2002-2003 format as the default. which is
nice. (i hope).

On 6/8/05, John W. Colby <jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com> wrote:
> I think it is just a continuation of the bug (never fixed) that prevents
> compacting any containers after 2K.  Thus the default is to build containers
> in the 2K format since they can be compacted.
> 
> John W. Colby
> www.ColbyConsulting.com
> 
> Contribute your unused CPU cycles to a good cause:
> http://folding.stanford.edu/
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Francisco Tapia
> Sent: Wednesday, June 08, 2005 6:48 PM
> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> Subject: [AccessD] Access 2003, and ADPs
> 
> 
> I just got my copy of Access 2003 along w/ the Developer Extensions... IF I
> open up Access 2003 and create a blank ADP, I noticed in the title bar that
> the file format is in Access 2000 instead of Access 2003... did I
> misconfigure something?
> 
> 
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From fhtapia at gmail.com  Wed Jun  8 18:59:39 2005
From: fhtapia at gmail.com (Francisco Tapia)
Date: Wed, 8 Jun 2005 16:59:39 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Access 2003, and ADPs
In-Reply-To: <b874372a05060816456ba79a62@mail.gmail.com>
References: <b874372a05060815484fc72c6d@mail.gmail.com>
	<004001c56c7d$4166dfe0$6c7aa8c0@ColbyM6805>
	<b874372a05060816456ba79a62@mail.gmail.com>
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i'm looking at this error too... 

Microsoft Jet 4.0 Service Pack 8 or later must be installed to block
unsafe expressions without affecting common functionality.

what is the concensus for this?...

On 6/8/05, Francisco Tapia <fhtapia at gmail.com> wrote:
> huh?
> 
> damn nobody mentioned this bug when I first asked about problems w/
> Access 2003 (before I bought it...) I'm having buyer's remorse ;)
> 
> I did a bit of diggin around and if I start a new db, then I can go
> into options and choose 2002-2003 format as the default. which is
> nice. (i hope).
> 
> On 6/8/05, John W. Colby <jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com> wrote:
> > I think it is just a continuation of the bug (never fixed) that prevents
> > compacting any containers after 2K.  Thus the default is to build containers
> > in the 2K format since they can be compacted.
> >
> > John W. Colby
> > www.ColbyConsulting.com
> >
> > Contribute your unused CPU cycles to a good cause:
> > http://folding.stanford.edu/
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> > [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Francisco Tapia
> > Sent: Wednesday, June 08, 2005 6:48 PM
> > To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> > Subject: [AccessD] Access 2003, and ADPs
> >
> >
> > I just got my copy of Access 2003 along w/ the Developer Extensions... IF I
> > open up Access 2003 and create a blank ADP, I noticed in the title bar that
> > the file format is in Access 2000 instead of Access 2003... did I
> > misconfigure something?
> >
> >
> > --
> > -Francisco
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From dwaters at usinternet.com  Wed Jun  8 18:59:41 2005
From: dwaters at usinternet.com (Dan Waters)
Date: Wed, 8 Jun 2005 16:59:41 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Access 2003, and ADPs
In-Reply-To: <24720894.1118274468106.JavaMail.root@sniper15>
Message-ID: <000001c56c86$23fbf720$35018e0a@danwaters>

Francisco!

Don't have buyer's remorse!  All you have to do is keep the database file
format in A2k.  There are no drawbacks (that I know of) to doing this.  It's
just something to remember.

And, keep the Default database format set to A2K as well.

In any case, this will only affect tables.  Since you're making a ADP, this
may not affect you.  Perhaps someone else knows the story on this.

Dan Waters

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Francisco Tapia
Sent: Wednesday, June 08, 2005 4:45 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Access 2003, and ADPs

huh?

damn nobody mentioned this bug when I first asked about problems w/
Access 2003 (before I bought it...) I'm having buyer's remorse ;)

I did a bit of diggin around and if I start a new db, then I can go
into options and choose 2002-2003 format as the default. which is
nice. (i hope).

On 6/8/05, John W. Colby <jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com> wrote:
> I think it is just a continuation of the bug (never fixed) that prevents
> compacting any containers after 2K.  Thus the default is to build
containers
> in the 2K format since they can be compacted.
> 
> John W. Colby
> www.ColbyConsulting.com
> 
> Contribute your unused CPU cycles to a good cause:
> http://folding.stanford.edu/
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Francisco Tapia
> Sent: Wednesday, June 08, 2005 6:48 PM
> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> Subject: [AccessD] Access 2003, and ADPs
> 
> 
> I just got my copy of Access 2003 along w/ the Developer Extensions... IF
I
> open up Access 2003 and create a blank ADP, I noticed in the title bar
that
> the file format is in Access 2000 instead of Access 2003... did I
> misconfigure something?
> 
> 
> --
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From KP at sdsonline.net  Wed Jun  8 19:26:11 2005
From: KP at sdsonline.net (Kath Pelletti)
Date: Thu, 9 Jun 2005 10:26:11 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] Website down?
Message-ID: <00a901c56c89$d72c2100$6601a8c0@user>

Hi all - is the website down? I'm trying to get at the archive and having no luck......

______________________________________________
Kath Pelletti

From KP at sdsonline.net  Wed Jun  8 19:38:16 2005
From: KP at sdsonline.net (Kath Pelletti)
Date: Thu, 9 Jun 2005 10:38:16 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] Website down?
References: <00a901c56c89$d72c2100$6601a8c0@user>
Message-ID: <00c401c56c8b$872e9c80$6601a8c0@user>

Don't worry - there does seem to be some trouble with the home page but I found the archive link - 

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Kath Pelletti 
  To: AccessD at databaseadvisors.com 
  Sent: Thursday, June 09, 2005 10:26 AM
  Subject: [AccessD] Website down?


  Hi all - is the website down? I'm trying to get at the archive and having no luck......

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From KP at sdsonline.net  Wed Jun  8 19:58:07 2005
From: KP at sdsonline.net (Kath Pelletti)
Date: Thu, 9 Jun 2005 10:58:07 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] Website / archive / error loading picture
Message-ID: <003c01c56c8e$4d024f40$6601a8c0@user>

I take it back - when I access the archive it doesnt seem to give me the full history. (I have an idea that this topic may have been covered before..)

In the interim, could someone help with an error 2114.

Situation is existing client with 4 workstations - 1 was replaced this week - Windows XP Pro re-installed, Office 2000 re-installed.

When the user opens a form which attempts to load a .jpg or .gif picture the system come up with "...the database doesn't support the format of 
'E:\Database\Photos\Peru.jpg' so it can't load the picture.

Google brought up a few instances of developers getting this error where the graphics filters in Office haven't been installed. I have gone in to the setup of Office on that PC and re-installed the graphics filters but I am still getting the error.

Can anyone help ?

______________________________________________
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Software Design & Solutions Pty Ltd.
Ph: 9505-6714
Fax: 9505-6430
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From john at winhaven.net  Wed Jun  8 20:31:11 2005
From: john at winhaven.net (John Bartow)
Date: Wed, 8 Jun 2005 20:31:11 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Website down?
In-Reply-To: <00a901c56c89$d72c2100$6601a8c0@user>
Message-ID: <200506090131.j591VFPA207598@pimout4-ext.prodigy.net>

Hi Kath,
It would appear our web server is down. I cannot ftp in either. We're
working on it...

John Bartow, President
Database Advisors, Inc.
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-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Kath Pelletti
Sent: Wednesday, June 08, 2005 7:26 PM
To: AccessD at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [AccessD] Website down?

Hi all - is the website down? I'm trying to get at the archive and having no
luck......

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From GregSmith at starband.net  Wed Jun  8 21:41:48 2005
From: GregSmith at starband.net (Greg Smith)
Date: Wed, 8 Jun 2005 21:41:48 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Website down?
In-Reply-To: <00c401c56c8b$872e9c80$6601a8c0@user>
Message-ID: <200506090245.j592jJ3Y022699@apophis.email.starband.net>

I can't get to www.databaseadvisors.com either.  "Page cannot be displayed".

It's toast, at least for the moment.

As for the 2114 error, try going to:

  http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;294255

And see if this is what you are getting.

Greg 

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Kath Pelletti
Sent: Wednesday, June 08, 2005 7:38 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Website down?

Don't worry - there does seem to be some trouble with the home page but I
found the archive link - 

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  Sent: Thursday, June 09, 2005 10:26 AM
  Subject: [AccessD] Website down?


  Hi all - is the website down? I'm trying to get at the archive and having
no luck......

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From dwaters at usinternet.com  Wed Jun  8 22:05:44 2005
From: dwaters at usinternet.com (Dan Waters)
Date: Wed, 8 Jun 2005 20:05:44 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Creating SPC charts
In-Reply-To: <17102778.1118195814428.JavaMail.root@sniper16>
Message-ID: <000101c56ca0$21861650$7905a8c0@danwaters>

Joe,

After you insert the chart, change the Class property to MSGraph.Chart, not
MSGraph.Chart.8, which will be entered automatically.

Then, in References select Microsoft Graph 10.0 Object Library (for AXP), or
the appropriate reference for your version of Access.

It's been a while, but I seem to remember that once I did this, then
everything else seemed to work out OK.

Actually, creating the queries is more of a challenge than making the chart.
You may need to create a series of queries to get what you're looking for.

HTH!

Dan Waters


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Joe Rojas
Sent: Tuesday, June 07, 2005 6:54 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Creating SPC charts

Thanks Dan!

I was hoping you were going to say that. I wanted to try and keep this all
in Access.

When you say "MS Graph", does this mean the same thing as inserting a chart
in an access report by going to Insert -> Chart? Or is this something
different?

Thanks,
JR

-----Original Message-----
From: Dan Waters [mailto:dwaters at usinternet.com]
Sent: Tuesday, June 07, 2005 4:05 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Creating SPC charts

Hi Joe,

I am a Quality Engineer and have made many SPC charts!  But none in Access
yet.  You can use MS Graph to make these - pretty much anything you can
create in Excel you can make in MS Graph. 

All the best!

Dan Waters


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Sent: Tuesday, June 07, 2005 8:10 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] Creating SPC charts

Hello,
(Access 2000)

I need to create statistical process control charts. Also known as X-bar
charts, R-charts, ect.

I already have the data but I don't know how to generate these kinds of
charts in Access.
Has anyone created these kinds of charts before?

Thanks!
JR




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From martyconnelly at shaw.ca  Thu Jun  9 00:10:33 2005
From: martyconnelly at shaw.ca (MartyConnelly)
Date: Wed, 08 Jun 2005 22:10:33 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Website / archive / error loading picture
References: <003c01c56c8e$4d024f40$6601a8c0@user>
Message-ID: <42A7CF49.9020801@shaw.ca>

I know it coughs on jpeg but sometimes just changing extension to jpg works
You need a full install of office I think, If not this works

http://www.lebans.com/loadjpeg?gif.htm
A97LoadJpegGif.zip is a database containing a function to allow for the
Display of Jpeg and Gif files on systems that do not have the Office
Graphic Filters installed.  Here is the A2K version: A2KLoadJpegGif.zip


NEW - April 05 2003 Ver 5.0 Developed to allow Access RunTime
installations to display Jpeg files in a standard Image Control.
Provides functionality to load JPG,GIF,BMP,EMF,WMF,CUR and ICO  files on
systems without the Office Graphics Filters loaded.
Originally developed for Systems with Access Runtime only.  Supports
transparency in Transparent Gifs.  Allows you to resize Images on
Forms/Reports at runtime  with no loss of Image quality.



Kath Pelletti wrote:

>I take it back - when I access the archive it doesnt seem to give me the full history. (I have an idea that this topic may have been covered before..)
>
>In the interim, could someone help with an error 2114.
>
>Situation is existing client with 4 workstations - 1 was replaced this week - Windows XP Pro re-installed, Office 2000 re-installed.
>
>When the user opens a form which attempts to load a .jpg or .gif picture the system come up with "...the database doesn't support the format of 
>'E:\Database\Photos\Peru.jpg' so it can't load the picture.
>
>Google brought up a few instances of developers getting this error where the graphics filters in Office haven't been installed. I have gone in to the setup of Office on that PC and re-installed the graphics filters but I am still getting the error.
>
>Can anyone help ?
>
>______________________________________________
>Kath Pelletti
>Software Design & Solutions Pty Ltd.
>Ph: 9505-6714
>Fax: 9505-6430
>KP at SDSOnline.net
>  
>

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From martyconnelly at shaw.ca  Thu Jun  9 00:38:03 2005
From: martyconnelly at shaw.ca (MartyConnelly)
Date: Wed, 08 Jun 2005 22:38:03 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Website / archive / error loading picture
References: <003c01c56c8e$4d024f40$6601a8c0@user> <42A7CF49.9020801@shaw.ca>
Message-ID: <42A7D5BB.1010807@shaw.ca>

This may also help but I have never used, there are complaints about 
this with Office 2003 and Tiff image filters
which may require a hotfix, this download is supposed to install filters 
commensurate with version you have installed


Additional text converters and image filters are available in the 
Microsoft Office File Converter Pack
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/212265/

MartyConnelly wrote:

> I know it coughs on jpeg but sometimes just changing extension to jpg 
> works
> You need a full install of office I think, If not this works
>
> http://www.lebans.com/loadjpeg?gif.htm
> A97LoadJpegGif.zip is a database containing a function to allow for the
> Display of Jpeg and Gif files on systems that do not have the Office
> Graphic Filters installed.  Here is the A2K version: A2KLoadJpegGif.zip
>
>
> NEW - April 05 2003 Ver 5.0 Developed to allow Access RunTime
> installations to display Jpeg files in a standard Image Control.
> Provides functionality to load JPG,GIF,BMP,EMF,WMF,CUR and ICO  files on
> systems without the Office Graphics Filters loaded.
> Originally developed for Systems with Access Runtime only.  Supports
> transparency in Transparent Gifs.  Allows you to resize Images on
> Forms/Reports at runtime  with no loss of Image quality.
>
>
>
> Kath Pelletti wrote:
>
>> I take it back - when I access the archive it doesnt seem to give me 
>> the full history. (I have an idea that this topic may have been 
>> covered before..)
>>
>> In the interim, could someone help with an error 2114.
>>
>> Situation is existing client with 4 workstations - 1 was replaced 
>> this week - Windows XP Pro re-installed, Office 2000 re-installed.
>>
>> When the user opens a form which attempts to load a .jpg or .gif 
>> picture the system come up with "...the database doesn't support the 
>> format of 'E:\Database\Photos\Peru.jpg' so it can't load the picture.
>>
>> Google brought up a few instances of developers getting this error 
>> where the graphics filters in Office haven't been installed. I have 
>> gone in to the setup of Office on that PC and re-installed the 
>> graphics filters but I am still getting the error.
>>
>> Can anyone help ?
>>
>> ______________________________________________
>> Kath Pelletti
>> Software Design & Solutions Pty Ltd.
>> Ph: 9505-6714
>> Fax: 9505-6430
>> KP at SDSOnline.net
>>  
>>
>

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From paul.hartland at fsmail.net  Thu Jun  9 04:05:37 2005
From: paul.hartland at fsmail.net (paul.hartland at fsmail.net)
Date: Thu,  9 Jun 2005 11:05:37 +0200 (CEST)
Subject: [AccessD] More MapPoint Help If Possible
Message-ID: <20893438.1118307937034.JavaMail.www@wwinf3102>

To all,

I have the following code which sends a Client postcode and around 475 employee postcodes to MapPoint and returns the Mileage, however this takes around 16 minutes to complete which is far too long for our needs, can anyone see a way of speeding this up we really need this procedure to be as fast as possible.

Private Sub FlyMap_Click()
On Error Resume Next
    Dim rsClient As ADODB.Recordset
    Dim rsEmp As ADODB.Recordset
    Dim oMap As MapPoint.Map
    Dim oLoc1 As MapPoint.Location
    Dim oLoc2 As MapPoint.Location
    Dim strCPC As String
    
    Dim dtStart As Date
    Dim dtFinish As Date
    
    Set rsClient = New ADODB.Recordset
    rsClient.Open ("SELECT InvPostCode FROM tblClaires"), OpenDataConn, adOpenDynamic, adLockReadOnly
    strCPC = rsClient!InvPostCode
    rsClient.Close
    Set rsClient = Nothing
    
    Set rsEmp = New ADODB.Recordset
    rsEmp.Open ("SELECT PayrollNo, Postcode, DistFromClient FROM tblMidlands"), OpenDataConn, adOpenDynamic, adLockOptimistic
    
    Set oMap = CreateObject("MapPoint.Application").ActiveMap
    oMap.Parent.PaneState = geoPaneRoutePlanner
    
    With oMap.ActiveRoute
        rsEmp.MoveFirst
        dtStart = Format(Time(), "HH:MM:SS")
        
        Screen.MousePointer = vbHourglass
        
        Do Until (rsEmp.EOF)
            If (IsNull(rsEmp.Fields("Postcode")) = False Or rsEmp.Fields("Postcode") <> "") Then
                Set oLoc1 = oMap.FindResults(strCPC)(1)
                Set oLoc2 = oMap.FindResults(rsEmp.Fields("Postcode"))(1)
                If (oLoc1 Is Nothing Or oLoc2 Is Nothing) Then
                    ' **** No Results Returned ****
                Else
                    ' **** Results Returned So Calculate Distance Etc ****
                    .Waypoints.Add oLoc1, "Start"
                    .Waypoints.Add oLoc2, "End"
                    .Calculate
                    If (.IsCalculated = True) Then
                        rsEmp.Fields("DistFromClient") = Format(.Distance, "00.00")
                        rsEmp.Update
                    End If
                End If
            End If
            rsEmp.MoveNext
            .Clear
        Loop
        
        Screen.MousePointer = vbDefault
    End With
    rsEmp.Close
    Set rsEmp = Nothing
    oMap.Saved = True
    Set oMap = Nothing
    
    dtFinish = Format(Time(), "HH:MM:SS")
    MsgBox "Finished : " & Format(dtFinish - dtStart, "HH:MM:SS")
End Sub


Thanks in advance for any help and/or code samples

Paul Hartland

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From mmattys at rochester.rr.com  Thu Jun  9 07:14:58 2005
From: mmattys at rochester.rr.com (Michael R Mattys)
Date: Thu, 9 Jun 2005 08:14:58 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] More MapPoint Help If Possible
References: <20893438.1118307937034.JavaMail.www@wwinf3102>
Message-ID: <034701c56cec$dd4893d0$0202a8c0@default>

----- Original Message ----- 
From: <paul.hartland at fsmail.net>
To: "accessd" <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Thursday, June 09, 2005 5:05 AM
Subject: [AccessD] More MapPoint Help If Possible

Paul,

Try MileCharter here: http://www.mapping-tools.com/

----

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Mattys MapLib for Microsoft MapPoint 
http://www.mattysconsulting.com



From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com  Thu Jun  9 07:17:58 2005
From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (John W. Colby)
Date: Thu, 09 Jun 2005 08:17:58 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] More MapPoint Help If Possible
In-Reply-To: <20893438.1118307937034.JavaMail.www@wwinf3102>
Message-ID: <004e01c56ced$490af130$6c7aa8c0@ColbyM6805>

Paul,

Are you pretesting the addresses to ensure that they resolve to a single
location?  In my data I get a ton of addresses which end up with many
possible locations (can't be found so a "set" of possibilities is returned.
.FindResults returns a collection of all the possible locations.  If .Count
is 1 then a single address was found and thus the address is "valid".  You
might want to look at how many addresses are returning a count > 0 and mark
those addresses as invalid (using a field in the table), then do not look
them up in the future until they are fixed.  These location lookups take far
longer than if the address resolves correctly and in the end just shouldn't
be calculated every time.

The thing you need to do is time the various parts of the code.  Here is a
look at a set of data points as I look up the address, and then look up the
distance as the crow flies and distance as the car drives:


Time to find Children's Specialized Hospital and 12 MSec
Time to calc Distance ATCF between Family Resource Associates, Inc. and
Children's Specialized Hospital: 1 MSec - 26.89295 miles"
Time to calc Distance ATCD between Family Resource Associates, Inc. and
Children's Specialized Hospital: 448 MSec - 33.64725 miles
Time to find Fort Lee School District and 7 MSec
Time to calc Distance ATCF between Family Resource Associates, Inc. and Fort
Lee School District: 0 MSec - 35.70896 miles"
Time to calc Distance ATCD between Family Resource Associates, Inc. and Fort
Lee School District: 1143 MSec - 53.54356 miles
Time to find Garfield School District and 4 MSec
Time to calc Distance ATCF between Family Resource Associates, Inc. and
Garfield School District: 0 MSec - 37.72034 miles"
Time to calc Distance ATCD between Family Resource Associates, Inc. and
Garfield School District: 758 MSec - 52.45616 miles
Time to find Garwood School District and 8 MSec
Time to calc Distance ATCF between Family Resource Associates, Inc. and
Garwood School District: 0 MSec - 25.45199 miles"
Time to calc Distance ATCD between Family Resource Associates, Inc. and
Garwood School District: 401 MSec - 30.58389 miles

What this tells me is that the time to look up an address that correctly
resolves to a single address is minimal (~10 milliseconds), the time to calc
the distance as the crow floes is almost nothing, but the time to calc the
distance driven is huge and obviously varies with the number of roads that
have to be found and calculated.  I would guess that you just aren't going
to change that time.

John W. Colby
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[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of
paul.hartland at fsmail.net
Sent: Thursday, June 09, 2005 5:06 AM
To: accessd
Subject: [AccessD] More MapPoint Help If Possible


To all,

I have the following code which sends a Client postcode and around 475
employee postcodes to MapPoint and returns the Mileage, however this takes
around 16 minutes to complete which is far too long for our needs, can
anyone see a way of speeding this up we really need this procedure to be as
fast as possible.

Private Sub FlyMap_Click()
On Error Resume Next
    Dim rsClient As ADODB.Recordset
    Dim rsEmp As ADODB.Recordset
    Dim oMap As MapPoint.Map
    Dim oLoc1 As MapPoint.Location
    Dim oLoc2 As MapPoint.Location
    Dim strCPC As String
    
    Dim dtStart As Date
    Dim dtFinish As Date
    
    Set rsClient = New ADODB.Recordset
    rsClient.Open ("SELECT InvPostCode FROM tblClaires"), OpenDataConn,
adOpenDynamic, adLockReadOnly
    strCPC = rsClient!InvPostCode
    rsClient.Close
    Set rsClient = Nothing
    
    Set rsEmp = New ADODB.Recordset
    rsEmp.Open ("SELECT PayrollNo, Postcode, DistFromClient FROM
tblMidlands"), OpenDataConn, adOpenDynamic, adLockOptimistic
    
    Set oMap = CreateObject("MapPoint.Application").ActiveMap
    oMap.Parent.PaneState = geoPaneRoutePlanner
    
    With oMap.ActiveRoute
        rsEmp.MoveFirst
        dtStart = Format(Time(), "HH:MM:SS")
        
        Screen.MousePointer = vbHourglass
        
        Do Until (rsEmp.EOF)
            If (IsNull(rsEmp.Fields("Postcode")) = False Or
rsEmp.Fields("Postcode") <> "") Then
                Set oLoc1 = oMap.FindResults(strCPC)(1)
                Set oLoc2 = oMap.FindResults(rsEmp.Fields("Postcode"))(1)
                If (oLoc1 Is Nothing Or oLoc2 Is Nothing) Then
                    ' **** No Results Returned ****
                Else
                    ' **** Results Returned So Calculate Distance Etc ****
                    .Waypoints.Add oLoc1, "Start"
                    .Waypoints.Add oLoc2, "End"
                    .Calculate
                    If (.IsCalculated = True) Then
                        rsEmp.Fields("DistFromClient") = Format(.Distance,
"00.00")
                        rsEmp.Update
                    End If
                End If
            End If
            rsEmp.MoveNext
            .Clear
        Loop
        
        Screen.MousePointer = vbDefault
    End With
    rsEmp.Close
    Set rsEmp = Nothing
    oMap.Saved = True
    Set oMap = Nothing
    
    dtFinish = Format(Time(), "HH:MM:SS")
    MsgBox "Finished : " & Format(dtFinish - dtStart, "HH:MM:SS") End Sub


Thanks in advance for any help and/or code samples

Paul Hartland

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From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com  Thu Jun  9 07:41:43 2005
From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (John W. Colby)
Date: Thu, 09 Jun 2005 08:41:43 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] More MapPoint Help If Possible
In-Reply-To: <20893438.1118307937034.JavaMail.www@wwinf3102>
Message-ID: <004f01c56cf0$9aa45920$6c7aa8c0@ColbyM6805>

Do these addresses change daily?  If not why not precalc the distances and
store them?

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[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of
paul.hartland at fsmail.net
Sent: Thursday, June 09, 2005 5:06 AM
To: accessd
Subject: [AccessD] More MapPoint Help If Possible


To all,

I have the following code which sends a Client postcode and around 475
employee postcodes to MapPoint and returns the Mileage, however this takes
around 16 minutes to complete which is far too long for our needs, can
anyone see a way of speeding this up we really need this procedure to be as
fast as possible.

Private Sub FlyMap_Click()
On Error Resume Next
    Dim rsClient As ADODB.Recordset
    Dim rsEmp As ADODB.Recordset
    Dim oMap As MapPoint.Map
    Dim oLoc1 As MapPoint.Location
    Dim oLoc2 As MapPoint.Location
    Dim strCPC As String
    
    Dim dtStart As Date
    Dim dtFinish As Date
    
    Set rsClient = New ADODB.Recordset
    rsClient.Open ("SELECT InvPostCode FROM tblClaires"), OpenDataConn,
adOpenDynamic, adLockReadOnly
    strCPC = rsClient!InvPostCode
    rsClient.Close
    Set rsClient = Nothing
    
    Set rsEmp = New ADODB.Recordset
    rsEmp.Open ("SELECT PayrollNo, Postcode, DistFromClient FROM
tblMidlands"), OpenDataConn, adOpenDynamic, adLockOptimistic
    
    Set oMap = CreateObject("MapPoint.Application").ActiveMap
    oMap.Parent.PaneState = geoPaneRoutePlanner
    
    With oMap.ActiveRoute
        rsEmp.MoveFirst
        dtStart = Format(Time(), "HH:MM:SS")
        
        Screen.MousePointer = vbHourglass
        
        Do Until (rsEmp.EOF)
            If (IsNull(rsEmp.Fields("Postcode")) = False Or
rsEmp.Fields("Postcode") <> "") Then
                Set oLoc1 = oMap.FindResults(strCPC)(1)
                Set oLoc2 = oMap.FindResults(rsEmp.Fields("Postcode"))(1)
                If (oLoc1 Is Nothing Or oLoc2 Is Nothing) Then
                    ' **** No Results Returned ****
                Else
                    ' **** Results Returned So Calculate Distance Etc ****
                    .Waypoints.Add oLoc1, "Start"
                    .Waypoints.Add oLoc2, "End"
                    .Calculate
                    If (.IsCalculated = True) Then
                        rsEmp.Fields("DistFromClient") = Format(.Distance,
"00.00")
                        rsEmp.Update
                    End If
                End If
            End If
            rsEmp.MoveNext
            .Clear
        Loop
        
        Screen.MousePointer = vbDefault
    End With
    rsEmp.Close
    Set rsEmp = Nothing
    oMap.Saved = True
    Set oMap = Nothing
    
    dtFinish = Format(Time(), "HH:MM:SS")
    MsgBox "Finished : " & Format(dtFinish - dtStart, "HH:MM:SS") End Sub


Thanks in advance for any help and/or code samples

Paul Hartland

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From BBarabash at TappeConstruction.com  Thu Jun  9 08:57:10 2005
From: BBarabash at TappeConstruction.com (Brett Barabash)
Date: Thu, 9 Jun 2005 08:57:10 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Access 2003, and ADPs
Message-ID: <100F91B31300334B89EC531C9DCB08659F7682@tccexch01.tappeconstruction.net>

I installed it (after a lengthy search through the MS site).  If you
don't, be prepared for non-stop nagging everytime you open a database.

Access 2003 has worked well for me, although functionality wise it is
pretty much on par with Access 2000.


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Francisco
Tapia
Sent: Wednesday, June 08, 2005 7:00 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Access 2003, and ADPs

i'm looking at this error too... 

Microsoft Jet 4.0 Service Pack 8 or later must be installed to block
unsafe expressions without affecting common functionality.

what is the concensus for this?...

On 6/8/05, Francisco Tapia <fhtapia at gmail.com> wrote:
> huh?
> 
> damn nobody mentioned this bug when I first asked about problems w/ 
> Access 2003 (before I bought it...) I'm having buyer's remorse ;)
> 
> I did a bit of diggin around and if I start a new db, then I can go 
> into options and choose 2002-2003 format as the default. which is 
> nice. (i hope).
> 
> On 6/8/05, John W. Colby <jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com> wrote:
> > I think it is just a continuation of the bug (never fixed) that 
> > prevents compacting any containers after 2K.  Thus the default is to

> > build containers in the 2K format since they can be compacted.
> >
> > John W. Colby
> > www.ColbyConsulting.com
> >
> > Contribute your unused CPU cycles to a good cause:
> > http://folding.stanford.edu/
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> > [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Francisco

> > Tapia
> > Sent: Wednesday, June 08, 2005 6:48 PM
> > To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> > Subject: [AccessD] Access 2003, and ADPs
> >
> >
> > I just got my copy of Access 2003 along w/ the Developer 
> > Extensions... IF I open up Access 2003 and create a blank ADP, I 
> > noticed in the title 

> > instead of Access 2003... did I misconfigure something?
> >
> >
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From JHewson at karta.com  Thu Jun  9 10:11:47 2005
From: JHewson at karta.com (Jim Hewson)
Date: Thu, 9 Jun 2005 10:11:47 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Close object without saving
Message-ID: <9C382E065F54AE48BC3AA7925DCBB01C034D87CE@karta-exc-int.Karta.com>


I'm having trouble finding the Close Action parameters.
I want to close created and/or modified objects without saving them.
Currently, forms, reports and queries close with any changes saved
automatically.
New Query Defs I get the "Save As" dialog box.
I can't find the toggle to change it.
Where is it?  A2K.
Thanks,
Jim



From RRANTHON at sentara.com  Thu Jun  9 10:16:18 2005
From: RRANTHON at sentara.com (Randall R Anthony)
Date: Thu, 09 Jun 2005 11:16:18 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Close object without saving
Message-ID: <200506091516.j59FGas18254@databaseadvisors.com>

Is this what you're looking for?  Added to the end of the DoCmd.
statement.

, acSaveNo


From JHewson at karta.com  Thu Jun  9 10:27:06 2005
From: JHewson at karta.com (Jim Hewson)
Date: Thu, 9 Jun 2005 10:27:06 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Close object without saving
Message-ID: <9C382E065F54AE48BC3AA7925DCBB01C034D87D8@karta-exc-int.Karta.com>

No, I found that.
What I'm looking for is the dialog box and asks if I want to save the
query, form, etc.
Instead it automatically saves.
Thanks
Jim


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Sent: Thursday, June 09, 2005 10:16 AM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Close object without saving

Is this what you're looking for?  Added to the end of the DoCmd.
statement.

, acSaveNo
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From andy at minstersystems.co.uk  Thu Jun  9 10:39:17 2005
From: andy at minstersystems.co.uk (Andy Lacey)
Date: Thu, 9 Jun 2005 16:39:17 +0100
Subject: [AccessD] Close object without saving
Message-ID: <20050609153913.AED82253ACF@smtp.nildram.co.uk>

Jim
I suspect that your program somewhere has done a Docmd.SetWarnings False and
not set it True again. So I'd a) put Docmd.Setwarnings True at the start of
your MDB to get it sorted, but b) try to find the offending code cos it's
going to keep happening otherwise. One thought is that the code may be
setting it False, falling into an error and the error handler doesn't set it
True again.

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To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
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Subject: RE: [AccessD] Close object without saving
Date: 09/06/05 15:27

>
> No, I found that.
> What I'm looking for is the dialog box and asks if I want to save the
> query, form, etc.
> Instead it automatically saves.
> Thanks
> Jim
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Randall R
> Anthony
> Sent: Thursday, June 09, 2005 10:16 AM
> To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] Close object without saving
>
> Is this what you're looking for?  Added to the end of the DoCmd.
> statement.
>
> , acSaveNo
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From Lambert.Heenan at AIG.com  Thu Jun  9 10:54:13 2005
From: Lambert.Heenan at AIG.com (Heenan, Lambert)
Date: Thu, 9 Jun 2005 11:54:13 -0400 
Subject: [AccessD] Close object without saving
Message-ID: <1D7828CDB8350747AFE9D69E0E90DA1F112149F7@xlivmbx21.aig.com>

What you need is 

Docmd.SetWarnings True

Which you can type in the immediate window and hit enter.

This setting is specific to each database, and it defaults to True (On).

Normally this code is used, for example, just before running an update
query, and then the warnings are turned back on with Docmd.SetWarnings True.


I suspect that you have turned warnings off at some point in your code and
then did not turn them back on. This setting persists with the database even
when it is closed and started up again.

A common cause of the problem is where warnings are turned off in code, but
then a runtime error happened and they were never turned back on. That is
why I always ensure that routines that turn off the warnings have an error
handler that turns them back on.

Lambert

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim Hewson
Sent: Thursday, June 09, 2005 11:27 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Close object without saving


No, I found that.
What I'm looking for is the dialog box and asks if I want to save the query,
form, etc. Instead it automatically saves. Thanks Jim


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Randall R Anthony
Sent: Thursday, June 09, 2005 10:16 AM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Close object without saving

Is this what you're looking for?  Added to the end of the DoCmd. statement.

, acSaveNo
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From RRANTHON at sentara.com  Thu Jun  9 11:20:59 2005
From: RRANTHON at sentara.com (Randall R Anthony)
Date: Thu, 09 Jun 2005 12:20:59 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Close object without saving
Message-ID: <200506091621.j59GLLs04560@databaseadvisors.com>

Another way, which I don't recommend (but found out the hard way) is to
go to Tools >> Options >> Edit/Find tab and uncheck Record Changes,
Document Deletions and Action Queries check boxes.

>>> Lambert.Heenan at aig.com 6/9/2005 11:54:13 AM >>>
What you need is 

Docmd.SetWarnings True

Which you can type in the immediate window and hit enter.

This setting is specific to each database, and it defaults to True
(On).

Normally this code is used, for example, just before running an update
query, and then the warnings are turned back on with Docmd.SetWarnings
True.


I suspect that you have turned warnings off at some point in your code
and
then did not turn them back on. This setting persists with the database
even
when it is closed and started up again.

A common cause of the problem is where warnings are turned off in code,
but
then a runtime error happened and they were never turned back on. That
is
why I always ensure that routines that turn off the warnings have an
error
handler that turns them back on.

Lambert

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com 
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim Hewson
Sent: Thursday, June 09, 2005 11:27 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Close object without saving


No, I found that.
What I'm looking for is the dialog box and asks if I want to save the
query,
form, etc. Instead it automatically saves. Thanks Jim


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com 
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Anthony
Sent: Thursday, June 09, 2005 10:16 AM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com 
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Close object without saving

Is this what you're looking for?  Added to the end of the DoCmd.
statement.

, acSaveNo
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From fhtapia at gmail.com  Thu Jun  9 11:27:48 2005
From: fhtapia at gmail.com (Francisco Tapia)
Date: Thu, 9 Jun 2005 09:27:48 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Access 2003, and ADPs
In-Reply-To: <100F91B31300334B89EC531C9DCB08659F7682@tccexch01.tappeconstruction.net>
References: <100F91B31300334B89EC531C9DCB08659F7682@tccexch01.tappeconstruction.net>
Message-ID: <b874372a05060909274cd6c983@mail.gmail.com>

well I plan on deploying my next DB w/ the Access 2003 runtime... this
means that my wise installer "MUST" include the SP8 for Jet?

On 6/9/05, Brett Barabash <BBarabash at tappeconstruction.com> wrote:
> I installed it (after a lengthy search through the MS site).  If you
> don't, be prepared for non-stop nagging everytime you open a database.
> 
> Access 2003 has worked well for me, although functionality wise it is
> pretty much on par with Access 2000.
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Francisco
> Tapia
> Sent: Wednesday, June 08, 2005 7:00 PM
> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] Access 2003, and ADPs
> 
> i'm looking at this error too...
> 
> Microsoft Jet 4.0 Service Pack 8 or later must be installed to block
> unsafe expressions without affecting common functionality.
> 
> what is the concensus for this?...
> 
> On 6/8/05, Francisco Tapia <fhtapia at gmail.com> wrote:
> > huh?
> >
> > damn nobody mentioned this bug when I first asked about problems w/
> > Access 2003 (before I bought it...) I'm having buyer's remorse ;)
> >
> > I did a bit of diggin around and if I start a new db, then I can go
> > into options and choose 2002-2003 format as the default. which is
> > nice. (i hope).
> >
> > On 6/8/05, John W. Colby <jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com> wrote:
> > > I think it is just a continuation of the bug (never fixed) that
> > > prevents compacting any containers after 2K.  Thus the default is to
> 
> > > build containers in the 2K format since they can be compacted.
> > >
> > > John W. Colby
> > > www.ColbyConsulting.com
> > >
> > > Contribute your unused CPU cycles to a good cause:
> > > http://folding.stanford.edu/
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> > > [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Francisco
> 
> > > Tapia
> > > Sent: Wednesday, June 08, 2005 6:48 PM
> > > To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> > > Subject: [AccessD] Access 2003, and ADPs
> > >
> > >
> > > I just got my copy of Access 2003 along w/ the Developer
> > > Extensions... IF I open up Access 2003 and create a blank ADP, I
> > > noticed in the title
> 
> > > instead of Access 2003... did I misconfigure something?
> > >
> > >
> > > --
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From BBarabash at TappeConstruction.com  Thu Jun  9 11:50:03 2005
From: BBarabash at TappeConstruction.com (Brett Barabash)
Date: Thu, 9 Jun 2005 11:50:03 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Access 2003, and ADPs
Message-ID: <100F91B31300334B89EC531C9DCB08659F76C8@tccexch01.tappeconstruction.net>

I don't have the A2003 runtime, so I don't know if it will display the
message to the end user.
Try opening a database with /runtime in the command line and see what
happens.

For all intents and purposes, the unsafe expressions vulnerability
probably won't be nearly as problematic as forcing the user to click
past a dialog that most people cannot understand.


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Francisco
Tapia
Sent: Thursday, June 09, 2005 11:28 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Access 2003, and ADPs

well I plan on deploying my next DB w/ the Access 2003 runtime... this
means that my wise installer "MUST" include the SP8 for Jet?

On 6/9/05, Brett Barabash <BBarabash at tappeconstruction.com> wrote:
> I installed it (after a lengthy search through the MS site).  If you 
> don't, be prepared for non-stop nagging everytime you open a database.
> 
> Access 2003 has worked well for me, although functionality wise it is 
> pretty much on par with Access 2000.
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Francisco 
> Tapia
> Sent: Wednesday, June 08, 2005 7:00 PM
> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] Access 2003, and ADPs
> 
> i'm looking at this error too...
> 
> Microsoft Jet 4.0 Service Pack 8 or later must be installed to block 
> unsafe expressions without affecting common functionality.
> 
> what is the concensus for this?...
> 

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From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com  Thu Jun  9 11:50:58 2005
From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (John W. Colby)
Date: Thu, 09 Jun 2005 12:50:58 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Close object without saving
In-Reply-To: <20050609153913.AED82253ACF@smtp.nildram.co.uk>
Message-ID: <005401c56d13$6d6ddd50$6c7aa8c0@ColbyM6805>

And for that reason, the Docmd.SetWarnings True should be placed immediately
in front of the (ONLY) line of code that says Exit sub.

John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com 

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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Andy Lacey
Sent: Thursday, June 09, 2005 11:39 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Close object without saving


Jim
I suspect that your program somewhere has done a Docmd.SetWarnings False and
not set it True again. So I'd a) put Docmd.Setwarnings True at the start of
your MDB to get it sorted, but b) try to find the offending code cos it's
going to keep happening otherwise. One thought is that the code may be
setting it False, falling into an error and the error handler doesn't set it
True again.

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--------- Original Message --------
From: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Close object without saving
Date: 09/06/05 15:27

>
> No, I found that.
> What I'm looking for is the dialog box and asks if I want to save the 
> query, form, etc. Instead it automatically saves.
> Thanks
> Jim
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Randall R 
> Anthony
> Sent: Thursday, June 09, 2005 10:16 AM
> To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] Close object without saving
>
> Is this what you're looking for?  Added to the end of the DoCmd. 
> statement.
>
> , acSaveNo
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From scapistrant at symphonyinfo.com  Thu Jun  9 12:11:41 2005
From: scapistrant at symphonyinfo.com (Steve Capistrant)
Date: Thu, 9 Jun 2005 12:11:41 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Access on Macs
Message-ID: <855499653F55AD4190B242717DF132BC082B31@dewey.Symphony.local>

I met yesterday with a prospect for our Access-based software product.
A fifth of their computers are Macs, the remainder PCs.  Based on what I
have assumed for YEARS, I noted that it won't fly with the Mac users,
unless you buy some third party emulator, and even then I've heard about
flaky behavior.

Yet they assured me that Macs can run all MS Office applications.  No
emulator.  Am I in the dark here?  Do Macs have a native MS Office
version?  If so, does it include Access?  And if so, can they work
seamlessly with an Access file generated from a PC, or is there some
format conversion that is required to create a Mac-enabled file?

Steve Capistrant
scapistrant at symphonyinfo.com
Symphony Information Services
7308 Aspen Lane North, Suite 132
Brooklyn Park, MN  55428
763-391-7400
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From cfoust at infostatsystems.com  Thu Jun  9 12:19:40 2005
From: cfoust at infostatsystems.com (Charlotte Foust)
Date: Thu, 9 Jun 2005 10:19:40 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Access on Macs
Message-ID: <E61FC1D4B1918244905B113C680BEA86873A84@infoserver01.infostat.local>

Macs have a native version of Office, but it doesn't include Access,
which is strictly PC-based.  They can run Access on a PowerPC, but I
don't know if that requires using an emulator.  I have seen Access
running on a PowerPC notebook, but I quickly ran in the other direction
and didn't ask for the ugly details.

Charlotte Foust


-----Original Message-----
From: Steve Capistrant [mailto:scapistrant at symphonyinfo.com] 
Sent: Thursday, June 09, 2005 10:12 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: [AccessD] Access on Macs


I met yesterday with a prospect for our Access-based software product. A
fifth of their computers are Macs, the remainder PCs.  Based on what I
have assumed for YEARS, I noted that it won't fly with the Mac users,
unless you buy some third party emulator, and even then I've heard about
flaky behavior.

Yet they assured me that Macs can run all MS Office applications.  No
emulator.  Am I in the dark here?  Do Macs have a native MS Office
version?  If so, does it include Access?  And if so, can they work
seamlessly with an Access file generated from a PC, or is there some
format conversion that is required to create a Mac-enabled file?

Steve Capistrant
scapistrant at symphonyinfo.com
Symphony Information Services
7308 Aspen Lane North, Suite 132
Brooklyn Park, MN  55428
763-391-7400
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From Mike.W.Gowey at doc.state.or.us  Thu Jun  9 12:34:53 2005
From: Mike.W.Gowey at doc.state.or.us (Gowey Mike W)
Date: Thu, 9 Jun 2005 11:34:53 -0600
Subject: [AccessD] Access on Macs
Message-ID: <05EBB8A3BEB95B4F8216BE4EF48607780579B4DE@srciml1.ds.doc.state.or.us>

 
I want to be able to display the value of the following select statement
on a form.  It should only find one tag number since I do not allow
duplicates.  I want to be able to see the results on the form.

     strSQL = "SELECT DISTINCT tblInventory.[DOC Tag Number+] FROM
tblInventory "
     strSQL = strSQL & " WHERE tblInventory.[DOC Tag Number+] = '" & Tag
& "'"
     strSQL = strSQL & " ORDER BY tblInventory.[DOC Tag Number+];"

Thanks in advance for any advice.

Mike Gowey  MCDST, A+, LME, NET+
Team Leader - East Region
Information Systems Unit




From garykjos at gmail.com  Thu Jun  9 12:39:40 2005
From: garykjos at gmail.com (Gary Kjos)
Date: Thu, 9 Jun 2005 12:39:40 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Access on Macs
In-Reply-To: <855499653F55AD4190B242717DF132BC082B31@dewey.Symphony.local>
References: <855499653F55AD4190B242717DF132BC082B31@dewey.Symphony.local>
Message-ID: <aea6c49505060910394bfed03@mail.gmail.com>

It was announced on Monday that next year Macs willl start using Intel
processors and will be able to run Windows....

http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,1759,1824718,00.asp

VirtualPC is a PC Emulator for the Mac
http://www.microsoft.com/mac/products/virtualpc/virtualpc.aspx?pid=virtualpc



On 6/9/05, Steve Capistrant <scapistrant at symphonyinfo.com> wrote:
> I met yesterday with a prospect for our Access-based software product.
> A fifth of their computers are Macs, the remainder PCs.  Based on what I
> have assumed for YEARS, I noted that it won't fly with the Mac users,
> unless you buy some third party emulator, and even then I've heard about
> flaky behavior.
> 
> Yet they assured me that Macs can run all MS Office applications.  No
> emulator.  Am I in the dark here?  Do Macs have a native MS Office
> version?  If so, does it include Access?  And if so, can they work
> seamlessly with an Access file generated from a PC, or is there some
> format conversion that is required to create a Mac-enabled file?
> 
> Steve Capistrant
> scapistrant at symphonyinfo.com
> Symphony Information Services
> 7308 Aspen Lane North, Suite 132
> Brooklyn Park, MN  55428
> 763-391-7400
> www.symphonyinfo.com
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From dw-murphy at cox.net  Thu Jun  9 12:43:50 2005
From: dw-murphy at cox.net (Doug Murphy)
Date: Thu, 9 Jun 2005 10:43:50 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Access on Macs
In-Reply-To: <855499653F55AD4190B242717DF132BC082B31@dewey.Symphony.local>
Message-ID: <002401c56d1a$cfadd360$c300a8c0@murphyf3vdfepi>

Steve,

To run Access on a Mac you have to do it under Windows emulation.  We have
had folks run our software, which is an Access runtime, on their Macs under
Virtual PC.  I set one of these up a couple of years ago and it wasn't a big
deal, aside from the cost to the client to get virtual PC which included the
licensed version of Windows running in Virtual PC.  Microsoft purchased
VirtualPC a while back and I can't speak to how it works now.  The two
installations I worked with ran well.  There is another Operating system
emulator program available but I can't remember the name at the moment.

Doug

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Sent: Thursday, June 09, 2005 10:12 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: [AccessD] Access on Macs


I met yesterday with a prospect for our Access-based software product. A
fifth of their computers are Macs, the remainder PCs.  Based on what I have
assumed for YEARS, I noted that it won't fly with the Mac users, unless you
buy some third party emulator, and even then I've heard about flaky
behavior.

Yet they assured me that Macs can run all MS Office applications.  No
emulator.  Am I in the dark here?  Do Macs have a native MS Office version?
If so, does it include Access?  And if so, can they work seamlessly with an
Access file generated from a PC, or is there some format conversion that is
required to create a Mac-enabled file?

Steve Capistrant
scapistrant at symphonyinfo.com
Symphony Information Services
7308 Aspen Lane North, Suite 132
Brooklyn Park, MN  55428
763-391-7400
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From JHewson at karta.com  Thu Jun  9 12:46:04 2005
From: JHewson at karta.com (Jim Hewson)
Date: Thu, 9 Jun 2005 12:46:04 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Close object without saving
Message-ID: <9C382E065F54AE48BC3AA7925DCBB01C03628EF7@karta-exc-int.Karta.com>

Good point!
I'll do it.
Thanks all.
Jim 

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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of John W. Colby
Sent: Thursday, June 09, 2005 11:51 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Close object without saving

And for that reason, the Docmd.SetWarnings True should be placed
immediately in front of the (ONLY) line of code that says Exit sub.

John W. Colby
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Sent: Thursday, June 09, 2005 11:39 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Close object without saving


Jim
I suspect that your program somewhere has done a Docmd.SetWarnings False
and not set it True again. So I'd a) put Docmd.Setwarnings True at the
start of your MDB to get it sorted, but b) try to find the offending
code cos it's going to keep happening otherwise. One thought is that the
code may be setting it False, falling into an error and the error
handler doesn't set it True again.

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Subject: RE: [AccessD] Close object without saving
Date: 09/06/05 15:27

>
> No, I found that.
> What I'm looking for is the dialog box and asks if I want to save the 
> query, form, etc. Instead it automatically saves.
> Thanks
> Jim
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Randall R 
> Anthony
> Sent: Thursday, June 09, 2005 10:16 AM
> To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] Close object without saving
>
> Is this what you're looking for?  Added to the end of the DoCmd. 
> statement.
>
> , acSaveNo
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From Mike.W.Gowey at doc.state.or.us  Thu Jun  9 12:46:09 2005
From: Mike.W.Gowey at doc.state.or.us (Gowey Mike W)
Date: Thu, 9 Jun 2005 11:46:09 -0600
Subject: [AccessD] Value Retrieval
Message-ID: <05EBB8A3BEB95B4F8216BE4EF48607780579B4DF@srciml1.ds.doc.state.or.us>


I'm wondering if someone can get me out of my brain freeze:

I want to be able to display the value of the following select statement
on a form.  It should only find one tag number since I do not allow
duplicates.  I want to be able to see the results on the form.

     strSQL = "SELECT DISTINCT tblInventory.[DOC Tag Number+] FROM
tblInventory "
     strSQL = strSQL & " WHERE tblInventory.[DOC Tag Number+] = '" & Tag
& "'"
     strSQL = strSQL & " ORDER BY tblInventory.[DOC Tag Number+];"

Thanks in advance for any advice.


Mike Gowey  MCDST, A+, LME, NET+
Team Leader - East Region
Information Systems Unit




From dwaters at usinternet.com  Thu Jun  9 12:46:24 2005
From: dwaters at usinternet.com (Dan Waters)
Date: Thu, 9 Jun 2005 10:46:24 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Access on Macs
In-Reply-To: <15625217.1118337394485.JavaMail.root@sniper17>
Message-ID: <000001c56d1b$28e50750$35018e0a@danwaters>

Steve,

Macs can have a Windows emulator so it can do all that a PC can do.  There
is also an Office version that is developed for Macs without using the
emulator, but does not include Access.  Depending on what they've actually
got, they might be able to use your product!

Dan Waters


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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Steve Capistrant
Sent: Thursday, June 09, 2005 10:12 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: [AccessD] Access on Macs

I met yesterday with a prospect for our Access-based software product.
A fifth of their computers are Macs, the remainder PCs.  Based on what I
have assumed for YEARS, I noted that it won't fly with the Mac users,
unless you buy some third party emulator, and even then I've heard about
flaky behavior.

Yet they assured me that Macs can run all MS Office applications.  No
emulator.  Am I in the dark here?  Do Macs have a native MS Office
version?  If so, does it include Access?  And if so, can they work
seamlessly with an Access file generated from a PC, or is there some
format conversion that is required to create a Mac-enabled file?

Steve Capistrant
scapistrant at symphonyinfo.com
Symphony Information Services
7308 Aspen Lane North, Suite 132
Brooklyn Park, MN  55428
763-391-7400
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From Lambert.Heenan at AIG.com  Thu Jun  9 12:55:16 2005
From: Lambert.Heenan at AIG.com (Heenan, Lambert)
Date: Thu, 9 Jun 2005 13:55:16 -0400 
Subject: [AccessD] Close object without saving
Message-ID: <1D7828CDB8350747AFE9D69E0E90DA1F1176BF5A@xlivmbx21.aig.com>

Like I said, I strongly suspect that at one time or another you got a
runtime error in one of your of the routines that turns the warnings off,
and that's what the corresponding line to turn them back on never executed.
That's what I meant by ensuring that your routines have error handlers, so
that the error handler will turn the warning back on regardless of what
error happened.

Lambert

-----Original Message-----
From: Jim Hewson [mailto:JHewson at karta.com] 
Sent: Thursday, June 09, 2005 12:15 PM
To: Heenan, Lambert
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Close object without saving


Thanks.
I reviewed the code and each time SetWarnings was set to false, I have
another line that turns them back on.

I'm not sure what I did, but it's working correctly now....

Thanks,
Jim 

-----Original Message-----
From: Heenan, Lambert [mailto:Lambert.Heenan at AIG.com] 
Sent: Thursday, June 09, 2005 10:54 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Cc: Jim Hewson
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Close object without saving

What you need is 

Docmd.SetWarnings True

Which you can type in the immediate window and hit enter.

This setting is specific to each database, and it defaults to True (On).

Normally this code is used, for example, just before running an update
query, and then the warnings are turned back on with Docmd.SetWarnings True.


I suspect that you have turned warnings off at some point in your code and
then did not turn them back on. This setting persists with the database even
when it is closed and started up again.

A common cause of the problem is where warnings are turned off in code, but
then a runtime error happened and they were never turned back on. That is
why I always ensure that routines that turn off the warnings have an error
handler that turns them back on.

Lambert

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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim Hewson
Sent: Thursday, June 09, 2005 11:27 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Close object without saving


No, I found that.
What I'm looking for is the dialog box and asks if I want to save the query,
form, etc. Instead it automatically saves. Thanks Jim


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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Randall R Anthony
Sent: Thursday, June 09, 2005 10:16 AM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Close object without saving

Is this what you're looking for?  Added to the end of the DoCmd. statement.

, acSaveNo
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From dwaters at usinternet.com  Thu Jun  9 13:48:07 2005
From: dwaters at usinternet.com (Dan Waters)
Date: Thu, 9 Jun 2005 11:48:07 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Value Retrieval
In-Reply-To: <21981408.1118339393758.JavaMail.root@sniper15>
Message-ID: <000001c56d23$c789b1a0$35018e0a@danwaters>

Mike,

1) You have an unneeded space at the end of FROM tblInventory.
2) Check the rules on field names - is a + sign usable?
3) Try running this without DISTINCT to see if it works then.

HTH!

Dan Waters

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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gowey Mike W
Sent: Thursday, June 09, 2005 10:46 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: [AccessD] Value Retrieval


I'm wondering if someone can get me out of my brain freeze:

I want to be able to display the value of the following select statement
on a form.  It should only find one tag number since I do not allow
duplicates.  I want to be able to see the results on the form.

     strSQL = "SELECT DISTINCT tblInventory.[DOC Tag Number+] FROM
tblInventory "
     strSQL = strSQL & " WHERE tblInventory.[DOC Tag Number+] = '" & Tag
& "'"
     strSQL = strSQL & " ORDER BY tblInventory.[DOC Tag Number+];"

Thanks in advance for any advice.


Mike Gowey  MCDST, A+, LME, NET+
Team Leader - East Region
Information Systems Unit


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From martyconnelly at shaw.ca  Thu Jun  9 13:57:27 2005
From: martyconnelly at shaw.ca (MartyConnelly)
Date: Thu, 09 Jun 2005 11:57:27 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Replication Manager
References: <E61FC1D4B1918244905B113C680BEA86873A7B@infoserver01.infostat.local>
Message-ID: <42A89117.80808@shaw.ca>

According to Michael Kaplan's posts dating to last june, it is not 
included as of that date
However you can install the synchronizer with the special extra Jet SP 
8.0 replication upgrade
and then use JRO code, Getz has a couple of hundred pages on vba jro 
coding in one of his ADH
books 2000 or 2002 vol 2.
I don't have the latest VSTO to check for sure.

Charlotte Foust wrote:

>It may be in VSTO, along with the rest of the developer tools for
>Access.
>
>Charlotte Foust
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: MartyConnelly [mailto:martyconnelly at shaw.ca] 
>Sent: Tuesday, June 07, 2005 9:25 AM
>To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
>Subject: Re: [AccessD] Replication Manager
>
>
>RepMan 4.0  is on the Office XP Developers Edition, not the Pro Edition,
>funnily enough there is no RepMan for 2003. I don't know what you do
>here use VB.Net and JRO or old version of 
>RepMan with Access 2003
>
>Documentation within MS-Access 2003 states that this tool is still 
>required to setup Internet replicated Access databases.
>http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;828089
>
> so, unless you have that RepMan from XP
>.... you need to write your own using JRO or use a tool like TSI 
>Synchronizer http://www.trigeminal.com/repl-ication/synch.asp?1033
>
>Note that this is not really true, either -- the TSI Synchronizer
>depends upon you having the Jet Synchronizer (which comes with
>Replication 
>Manager).
>
>You do not need Replication Manager to use all forms of Jet replication.
>
>Replication
>Manager is a tool for implementing certain advanced replication
>functionalities such as synchronizer configuration for indirect or
>internet replication or for changing the the retention period of a
>replication set. Also, you do not need to have a copy of Replication
>Manager on every computer (and probably shouldn't) since it is only an
>administrators tool. Anything that can be done with Replication manager
>can also be accomplished using DAO or JRO code
>
>Jet 8 SP has a seperate update for replication
>
>http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?kbid=321076
>
>This shows installation procedures for RepMan
>
>Internet Synchronization with the Microsoft Jet Database Engine: A 
>Technical Overview
>http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/default.asp?url=/library/en-us/dnacc2k
>/html/intrjet4.asp
>
>Make sure you have read the replication faq and understand indirect and 
>direct synchronization
>
>http://support.microsoft.com/kb/q282977/
>
>Here's some DAO code to illustrate a basic synchronization process of BE
>
>over a Lan...
>'Courtesy Lambert Heenan
>Private Sub btnUpdateMaster_Click()
>Dim msg As String
>Dim sReplicaDb As Variant
>Dim sMainStore As String
>Dim db As Database
>
>    On Error GoTo btnUpdateMaster_err
>    'First get the path to the replica file we will synch. with.
>    msg = "This procedure will update the MASTER database with one or
>more replica databases.@"
>    msg = msg & "Do you with to continue?@"
>    If MsgBox(msg, vbYesNo Or vbQuestion, "Synchronize Master Database")
>= vbYes Then
>
>        sReplicaDb = sDataToSynchFrom() '
>
>' sDataToSynchFrom() is a function that returns the full path to an MDB
>file
>
>        If sReplicaDb & "" = ""  Then Exit Sub
>        sMainStore = GetAttachedDbName(GetFirstAttachedtable)
>
>' GetAttachedDbName() is a function that returns the full path to the
>back end database ' given the name of one of the linked tables
>
>        ' sanity check
>        If sMainStore = sReplicaDb Then
>            MsgBox "Cannot synchronize your main data file with
>itself. at Please select the correct replica data file to synchronize
>with.@", , "Invalid data file selected"
>            Exit Sub
>        End If
>        DoCmd.Hourglass True
>' here is where the synchronization takes place
>        Set db = OpenDatabase(sMainStore)
>' this does a one-way synchronizatin - just importing changes in the
>data. ' you can also do two way using the constant "dbRepImpExpChanges"
>        db.Synchronize sReplicaDb, dbRepImportChanges
>        RenameSynchedFile CStr(sReplicaDb)
>        DoCmd.Hourglass False
>        MsgBox "Synchronization completed", , "Synchronize Master
>Database"
>    End If
>btnUpdateMaster_Click_Exit:
>    Set db = Nothing
>    Exit Sub
>btnUpdateMaster_err:
>    DoCmd.Hourglass False
>' put your favorite error handler here
>    MsgBox "Error synchronizing with " & sReplicaDb & "@" &
>Err.Description & "@Error number " & Err.Number
>    Resume btnUpdateMaster_Click_Exit
>End Sub
>
>
>Barbara Ryan wrote:
>
>  
>
>>Where I can I find Replication Manager for Access 2002?  Is it a 
>>separate interface from the Replication option under Tools in Access 
>>2002?  I can't seem to locate it on the Office XP Pro installation CD.
>>
>>Thanks,
>>Barb Ryan
>> 
>>
>>    
>>
>
>  
>

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From fhtapia at gmail.com  Thu Jun  9 13:59:32 2005
From: fhtapia at gmail.com (Francisco Tapia)
Date: Thu, 9 Jun 2005 11:59:32 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Access 2003, and ADPs
In-Reply-To: <100F91B31300334B89EC531C9DCB08659F76C8@tccexch01.tappeconstruction.net>
References: <100F91B31300334B89EC531C9DCB08659F76C8@tccexch01.tappeconstruction.net>
Message-ID: <b874372a050609115941fffad6@mail.gmail.com>

I tried the typical /Runtime, apperenatly this is not a valid command
anymore.. anyone know for sure?


On 6/9/05, Brett Barabash <BBarabash at tappeconstruction.com> wrote:
> I don't have the A2003 runtime, so I don't know if it will display the
> message to the end user.
> Try opening a database with /runtime in the command line and see what
> happens.
> 
> For all intents and purposes, the unsafe expressions vulnerability
> probably won't be nearly as problematic as forcing the user to click
> past a dialog that most people cannot understand.
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Francisco
> Tapia
> Sent: Thursday, June 09, 2005 11:28 AM
> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] Access 2003, and ADPs
> 
> well I plan on deploying my next DB w/ the Access 2003 runtime... this
> means that my wise installer "MUST" include the SP8 for Jet?
> 
> On 6/9/05, Brett Barabash <BBarabash at tappeconstruction.com> wrote:
> > I installed it (after a lengthy search through the MS site).  If you
> > don't, be prepared for non-stop nagging everytime you open a database.
> >
> > Access 2003 has worked well for me, although functionality wise it is
> > pretty much on par with Access 2000.
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> > [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Francisco
> > Tapia
> > Sent: Wednesday, June 08, 2005 7:00 PM
> > To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> > Subject: Re: [AccessD] Access 2003, and ADPs
> >
> > i'm looking at this error too...
> >
> > Microsoft Jet 4.0 Service Pack 8 or later must be installed to block
> > unsafe expressions without affecting common functionality.
> >
> > what is the concensus for this?...
> >
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From rbgajewski at adelphia.net  Thu Jun  9 14:09:59 2005
From: rbgajewski at adelphia.net (Bob Gajewski)
Date: Thu, 9 Jun 2005 15:09:59 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Value Retrieval
In-Reply-To: <000001c56d23$c789b1a0$35018e0a@danwaters>
Message-ID: <20050609190756.WFQA4191.mta13.adelphia.net@DG1P2N21>

Mike

I may be missing something, but if this can return one and only one record,
why are you using an ORDER BY clause?

Bob Gajewski 

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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Dan Waters
Sent: Thursday, June 09, 2005 14:48 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Value Retrieval

Mike,

1) You have an unneeded space at the end of FROM tblInventory.
2) Check the rules on field names - is a + sign usable?
3) Try running this without DISTINCT to see if it works then.

HTH!

Dan Waters

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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gowey Mike W
Sent: Thursday, June 09, 2005 10:46 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: [AccessD] Value Retrieval


I'm wondering if someone can get me out of my brain freeze:

I want to be able to display the value of the following select statement on
a form.  It should only find one tag number since I do not allow duplicates.
I want to be able to see the results on the form.

     strSQL = "SELECT DISTINCT tblInventory.[DOC Tag Number+] FROM
tblInventory "
     strSQL = strSQL & " WHERE tblInventory.[DOC Tag Number+] = '" & Tag &
"'"
     strSQL = strSQL & " ORDER BY tblInventory.[DOC Tag Number+];"

Thanks in advance for any advice.


Mike Gowey  MCDST, A+, LME, NET+
Team Leader - East Region
Information Systems Unit


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From accessd at shaw.ca  Thu Jun  9 14:08:09 2005
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Thu, 09 Jun 2005 12:08:09 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Website down?
In-Reply-To: <00a901c56c89$d72c2100$6601a8c0@user>
Message-ID: <0IHT0056AZTITH@l-daemon>

Hi Kath:

I was away in another city yesterday but everything is working fine today.

Jim

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To: AccessD at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [AccessD] Website down?

Hi all - is the website down? I'm trying to get at the archive and having no
luck......

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From BBarabash at TappeConstruction.com  Thu Jun  9 14:14:19 2005
From: BBarabash at TappeConstruction.com (Brett Barabash)
Date: Thu, 9 Jun 2005 14:14:19 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Access 2003, and ADPs
Message-ID: <100F91B31300334B89EC531C9DCB08659F7712@tccexch01.tappeconstruction.net>

I have A2003 on this machine, and from the Run menu typed msaccess
/runtime.  
It definitely opened in runtime mode (no window caption and it gave the
missing application filename message).

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Francisco
Tapia
Sent: Thursday, June 09, 2005 2:00 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Access 2003, and ADPs

I tried the typical /Runtime, apperenatly this is not a valid command
anymore.. anyone know for sure?


On 6/9/05, Brett Barabash <BBarabash at tappeconstruction.com> wrote:
> I don't have the A2003 runtime, so I don't know if it will display the

> message to the end user.
> Try opening a database with /runtime in the command line and see what 
> happens.
> 
> For all intents and purposes, the unsafe expressions vulnerability 
> probably won't be nearly as problematic as forcing the user to click 
> past a dialog that most people cannot understand.
> 
> 

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From cfoust at infostatsystems.com  Thu Jun  9 14:58:08 2005
From: cfoust at infostatsystems.com (Charlotte Foust)
Date: Thu, 9 Jun 2005 12:58:08 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Replication Manager
Message-ID: <E61FC1D4B1918244905B113C680BEA86873A88@infoserver01.infostat.local>

I bow to your research.  I am working primarily in .Net now, so I don't
even HAVE Access 2003.

Charlotte Foust


-----Original Message-----
From: MartyConnelly [mailto:martyconnelly at shaw.ca] 
Sent: Thursday, June 09, 2005 11:57 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Replication Manager


According to Michael Kaplan's posts dating to last june, it is not 
included as of that date
However you can install the synchronizer with the special extra Jet SP 
8.0 replication upgrade
and then use JRO code, Getz has a couple of hundred pages on vba jro 
coding in one of his ADH
books 2000 or 2002 vol 2.
I don't have the latest VSTO to check for sure.

Charlotte Foust wrote:

>It may be in VSTO, along with the rest of the developer tools for 
>Access.
>
>Charlotte Foust
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: MartyConnelly [mailto:martyconnelly at shaw.ca]
>Sent: Tuesday, June 07, 2005 9:25 AM
>To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
>Subject: Re: [AccessD] Replication Manager
>
>
>RepMan 4.0  is on the Office XP Developers Edition, not the Pro 
>Edition, funnily enough there is no RepMan for 2003. I don't know what 
>you do here use VB.Net and JRO or old version of RepMan with Access 
>2003
>
>Documentation within MS-Access 2003 states that this tool is still
>required to setup Internet replicated Access databases.
>http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;828089
>
> so, unless you have that RepMan from XP
>.... you need to write your own using JRO or use a tool like TSI
>Synchronizer http://www.trigeminal.com/repl-ication/synch.asp?1033
>
>Note that this is not really true, either -- the TSI Synchronizer 
>depends upon you having the Jet Synchronizer (which comes with 
>Replication Manager).
>
>You do not need Replication Manager to use all forms of Jet 
>replication.
>
>Replication
>Manager is a tool for implementing certain advanced replication 
>functionalities such as synchronizer configuration for indirect or 
>internet replication or for changing the the retention period of a 
>replication set. Also, you do not need to have a copy of Replication 
>Manager on every computer (and probably shouldn't) since it is only an 
>administrators tool. Anything that can be done with Replication manager

>can also be accomplished using DAO or JRO code
>
>Jet 8 SP has a seperate update for replication
>
>http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?kbid=321076
>
>This shows installation procedures for RepMan
>
>Internet Synchronization with the Microsoft Jet Database Engine: A
>Technical Overview
>http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/default.asp?url=/library/en-us/dnacc2
k
>/html/intrjet4.asp
>
>Make sure you have read the replication faq and understand indirect and
>direct synchronization
>
>http://support.microsoft.com/kb/q282977/
>
>Here's some DAO code to illustrate a basic synchronization process of 
>BE
>
>over a Lan...
>'Courtesy Lambert Heenan
>Private Sub btnUpdateMaster_Click()
>Dim msg As String
>Dim sReplicaDb As Variant
>Dim sMainStore As String
>Dim db As Database
>
>    On Error GoTo btnUpdateMaster_err
>    'First get the path to the replica file we will synch. with.
>    msg = "This procedure will update the MASTER database with one or 
>more replica databases.@"
>    msg = msg & "Do you with to continue?@"
>    If MsgBox(msg, vbYesNo Or vbQuestion, "Synchronize Master 
>Database") = vbYes Then
>
>        sReplicaDb = sDataToSynchFrom() '
>
>' sDataToSynchFrom() is a function that returns the full path to an MDB

>file
>
>        If sReplicaDb & "" = ""  Then Exit Sub
>        sMainStore = GetAttachedDbName(GetFirstAttachedtable)
>
>' GetAttachedDbName() is a function that returns the full path to the 
>back end database ' given the name of one of the linked tables
>
>        ' sanity check
>        If sMainStore = sReplicaDb Then
>            MsgBox "Cannot synchronize your main data file with 
>itself. at Please select the correct replica data file to synchronize 
>with.@", , "Invalid data file selected"
>            Exit Sub
>        End If
>        DoCmd.Hourglass True
>' here is where the synchronization takes place
>        Set db = OpenDatabase(sMainStore)
>' this does a one-way synchronizatin - just importing changes in the 
>data. ' you can also do two way using the constant "dbRepImpExpChanges"
>        db.Synchronize sReplicaDb, dbRepImportChanges
>        RenameSynchedFile CStr(sReplicaDb)
>        DoCmd.Hourglass False
>        MsgBox "Synchronization completed", , "Synchronize Master 
>Database"
>    End If
>btnUpdateMaster_Click_Exit:
>    Set db = Nothing
>    Exit Sub
>btnUpdateMaster_err:
>    DoCmd.Hourglass False
>' put your favorite error handler here
>    MsgBox "Error synchronizing with " & sReplicaDb & "@" & 
>Err.Description & "@Error number " & Err.Number
>    Resume btnUpdateMaster_Click_Exit
>End Sub
>
>
>Barbara Ryan wrote:
>
>  
>
>>Where I can I find Replication Manager for Access 2002?  Is it a
>>separate interface from the Replication option under Tools in Access 
>>2002?  I can't seem to locate it on the Office XP Pro installation CD.
>>
>>Thanks,
>>Barb Ryan
>> 
>>
>>    
>>
>
>  
>

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From cfoust at infostatsystems.com  Thu Jun  9 15:00:13 2005
From: cfoust at infostatsystems.com (Charlotte Foust)
Date: Thu, 9 Jun 2005 13:00:13 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Access on Macs
Message-ID: <E61FC1D4B1918244905B113C680BEA86873A89@infoserver01.infostat.local>

Are you sure you have the right subject on this post?

Charlotte Foust


-----Original Message-----
From: Gowey Mike W [mailto:Mike.W.Gowey at doc.state.or.us] 
Sent: Thursday, June 09, 2005 10:35 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Access on Macs


 
I want to be able to display the value of the following select statement
on a form.  It should only find one tag number since I do not allow
duplicates.  I want to be able to see the results on the form.

     strSQL = "SELECT DISTINCT tblInventory.[DOC Tag Number+] FROM
tblInventory "
     strSQL = strSQL & " WHERE tblInventory.[DOC Tag Number+] = '" & Tag
& "'"
     strSQL = strSQL & " ORDER BY tblInventory.[DOC Tag Number+];"

Thanks in advance for any advice.

Mike Gowey  MCDST, A+, LME, NET+
Team Leader - East Region
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From fhtapia at gmail.com  Thu Jun  9 15:08:37 2005
From: fhtapia at gmail.com (Francisco Tapia)
Date: Thu, 9 Jun 2005 13:08:37 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Access 2003, and ADPs
In-Reply-To: <100F91B31300334B89EC531C9DCB08659F7712@tccexch01.tappeconstruction.net>
References: <100F91B31300334B89EC531C9DCB08659F7712@tccexch01.tappeconstruction.net>
Message-ID: <b874372a050609130837287498@mail.gmail.com>

haha, i'm starting to feel like a dumbass w/ this new version...
lol...I had mistyped RUNTIME go figure... ... so I load it as a
runtime and yes I still get the JET 4 sp8 error message.. only not as
dramatic as the normal access boot up.


On 6/9/05, Brett Barabash <BBarabash at tappeconstruction.com> wrote:
> I have A2003 on this machine, and from the Run menu typed msaccess
> /runtime.
> It definitely opened in runtime mode (no window caption and it gave the
> missing application filename message).
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Francisco
> Tapia
> Sent: Thursday, June 09, 2005 2:00 PM
> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] Access 2003, and ADPs
> 
> I tried the typical /Runtime, apperenatly this is not a valid command
> anymore.. anyone know for sure?
> 
> 
> On 6/9/05, Brett Barabash <BBarabash at tappeconstruction.com> wrote:
> > I don't have the A2003 runtime, so I don't know if it will display the
> 
> > message to the end user.
> > Try opening a database with /runtime in the command line and see what
> > happens.
> >
> > For all intents and purposes, the unsafe expressions vulnerability
> > probably won't be nearly as problematic as forcing the user to click
> > past a dialog that most people cannot understand.
> >
> >


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From BBarabash at TappeConstruction.com  Thu Jun  9 15:35:45 2005
From: BBarabash at TappeConstruction.com (Brett Barabash)
Date: Thu, 9 Jun 2005 15:35:45 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Access 2003, and ADPs
Message-ID: <100F91B31300334B89EC531C9DCB08659F773D@tccexch01.tappeconstruction.net>

Hmm... You would think that AutoCorrect would fix the misspelling ;-)  
Perhaps the next version?

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Francisco
Tapia
Sent: Thursday, June 09, 2005 3:09 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Access 2003, and ADPs


haha, i'm starting to feel like a dumbass w/ this new version...
lol...I had mistyped RUNTIME go figure... ... so I load it as a runtime
and yes I still get the JET 4 sp8 error message.. only not as dramatic
as the normal access boot up.



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From KP at sdsonline.net  Thu Jun  9 17:33:21 2005
From: KP at sdsonline.net (Kath Pelletti)
Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2005 08:33:21 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] Website down?
References: <0IHT0056AZTITH@l-daemon>
Message-ID: <003001c56d43$3e7ea210$6601a8c0@user>

Thanks Jim
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  From: Jim Lawrence 
  To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' 
  Sent: Friday, June 10, 2005 5:08 AM
  Subject: RE: [AccessD] Website down?


  Hi Kath:

  I was away in another city yesterday but everything is working fine today.

  Jim

  -----Original Message-----
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  [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Kath Pelletti
  Sent: Wednesday, June 08, 2005 5:26 PM
  To: AccessD at databaseadvisors.com
  Subject: [AccessD] Website down?

  Hi all - is the website down? I'm trying to get at the archive and having no
  luck......

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From KP at sdsonline.net  Thu Jun  9 17:33:44 2005
From: KP at sdsonline.net (Kath Pelletti)
Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2005 08:33:44 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] Website / archive / error loading picture
References: <003c01c56c8e$4d024f40$6601a8c0@user> <42A7CF49.9020801@shaw.ca>
Message-ID: <003a01c56d43$4ba38050$6601a8c0@user>

Thanks Marty - I will try this out tomorrow - 

rgds
Kath
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: MartyConnelly 
  To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving 
  Sent: Thursday, June 09, 2005 3:10 PM
  Subject: Re: [AccessD] Website / archive / error loading picture


  I know it coughs on jpeg but sometimes just changing extension to jpg works
  You need a full install of office I think, If not this works

  http://www.lebans.com/loadjpeg?gif.htm
  A97LoadJpegGif.zip is a database containing a function to allow for the
  Display of Jpeg and Gif files on systems that do not have the Office
  Graphic Filters installed.  Here is the A2K version: A2KLoadJpegGif.zip


  NEW - April 05 2003 Ver 5.0 Developed to allow Access RunTime
  installations to display Jpeg files in a standard Image Control.
  Provides functionality to load JPG,GIF,BMP,EMF,WMF,CUR and ICO  files on
  systems without the Office Graphics Filters loaded.
  Originally developed for Systems with Access Runtime only.  Supports
  transparency in Transparent Gifs.  Allows you to resize Images on
  Forms/Reports at runtime  with no loss of Image quality.



  Kath Pelletti wrote:

  >I take it back - when I access the archive it doesnt seem to give me the full history. (I have an idea that this topic may have been covered before..)
  >
  >In the interim, could someone help with an error 2114.
  >
  >Situation is existing client with 4 workstations - 1 was replaced this week - Windows XP Pro re-installed, Office 2000 re-installed.
  >
  >When the user opens a form which attempts to load a .jpg or .gif picture the system come up with "...the database doesn't support the format of 
  >'E:\Database\Photos\Peru.jpg' so it can't load the picture.
  >
  >Google brought up a few instances of developers getting this error where the graphics filters in Office haven't been installed. I have gone in to the setup of Office on that PC and re-installed the graphics filters but I am still getting the error.
  >
  >Can anyone help ?
  >
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  >  
  >

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From KP at sdsonline.net  Thu Jun  9 19:22:21 2005
From: KP at sdsonline.net (Kath Pelletti)
Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2005 10:22:21 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] Australia - find nearest location
Message-ID: <000a01c56d52$78a71990$6601a8c0@user>

Hi all - Just wondering whether there happens to be anyone on list who may already have done this - 

I'm writing a new system for a training company and they want add a geographic search capability - ie. they would like to enter a suburb or postcode and the system displays will show the courses which run closest to them geographically.

Any tips? Or if anyone has done this at all - can you tell me what your approach was?

Thanks - rgds

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Fax: 9505-6430
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From michael at ddisolutions.com.au  Thu Jun  9 19:48:28 2005
From: michael at ddisolutions.com.au (Michael Maddison)
Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2005 10:48:28 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] Australia - find nearest location
Message-ID: <59A61174B1F5B54B97FD4ADDE71E7D010E4CA3@ddi-01.DDI.local>

Never tried myself, but the discussions here recently on MapPoint might
lead the way.

cheers

Michael M

Hi all - Just wondering whether there happens to be anyone on list who
may already have done this - 

I'm writing a new system for a training company and they want add a
geographic search capability - ie. they would like to enter a suburb or
postcode and the system displays will show the courses which run closest
to them geographically.

Any tips? Or if anyone has done this at all - can you tell me what your
approach was?

Thanks - rgds

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From Mark.Porter at acsalaska.com  Thu Jun  9 20:33:44 2005
From: Mark.Porter at acsalaska.com (Porter, Mark)
Date: Thu, 9 Jun 2005 17:33:44 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] Australia - find nearest location
Message-ID: <635B80FE6C7D5A409586A6A110D97D17A20A9F@ACSANCHOR.corp.acsalaska.com>

They have been doing neat things with Google Maps, maybe something here
will lead you to what you are looking for:

http://www.cnn.com/2005/TECH/internet/06/09/google.map.hacks.ap/index.ht
ml


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Maddison
Sent: Thursday, June 09, 2005 4:48 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Australia - find nearest location

Never tried myself, but the discussions here recently on MapPoint might
lead the way.

cheers

Michael M

Hi all - Just wondering whether there happens to be anyone on list who
may already have done this - 

I'm writing a new system for a training company and they want add a
geographic search capability - ie. they would like to enter a suburb or
postcode and the system displays will show the courses which run closest
to them geographically.

Any tips? Or if anyone has done this at all - can you tell me what your
approach was?

Thanks - rgds

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From Bruce.Bruen at railcorp.nsw.gov.au  Thu Jun  9 21:08:38 2005
From: Bruce.Bruen at railcorp.nsw.gov.au (Bruen, Bruce)
Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2005 12:08:38 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] Generating a rownumber field in a query
Message-ID: <F2BE8EAB3EA585418337B71BCE6F3BF304EBB3@msmet100.rail.nsw.gov.au>

Hi folks,
 
I want to output a sequence number as a field in a query result.
Everytime the query runs it should restart the sequence number from 1.
 
The query appends rows to a "testscript" table, every new test cycle we
generate a new set of test scripts which is made up of all the tests in
the previous cycle plus new tests that were added during the execution
of the last cycle.  The natural key for the output table is the cycle
number + the sequence number.
 
Cycle    Seq    Testname .....   
   1          1        blah
   1          2        blah blah
...
   2          1        blah blah
   2          2        blah blah blah
etc
 
The cycle number is input as a parameter to the append query.  But how
can I generate the sequence numbers?
 
tia
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From Bruce.Bruen at railcorp.nsw.gov.au  Thu Jun  9 21:25:26 2005
From: Bruce.Bruen at railcorp.nsw.gov.au (Bruen, Bruce)
Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2005 12:25:26 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] A2K: How to change subform view
Message-ID: <F2BE8EAB3EA585418337B71BCE6F3BF304EBB4@msmet100.rail.nsw.gov.au>

Hi guys again,
 
Memory has failed me.  In Access 2000, what is the code trick to change
the subform view from datasheet to normal?  
The following 2003 code does not work.
 
Private Sub Test_DblClick(Cancel As Integer)
    DoCmd.RunCommand acCmdSubformFormView
End Sub
 
tia
bruce
 
 
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From mmattys at rochester.rr.com  Thu Jun  9 21:37:58 2005
From: mmattys at rochester.rr.com (Michael R Mattys)
Date: Thu, 9 Jun 2005 22:37:58 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] A2K: How to change subform view
References: <F2BE8EAB3EA585418337B71BCE6F3BF304EBB4@msmet100.rail.nsw.gov.au>
Message-ID: <00c801c56d65$6d454d70$0202a8c0@default>

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Bruen, Bruce" <Bruce.Bruen at railcorp.nsw.gov.au>
To: <AccessD at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Thursday, June 09, 2005 10:25 PM
Subject: [AccessD] A2K: How to change subform view


Hi guys again,
 
Memory has failed me.  In Access 2000, what is the code trick to change
the subform view from datasheet to normal?  
The following 2003 code does not work.
 
Private Sub Test_DblClick(Cancel As Integer)
    DoCmd.RunCommand acCmdSubformFormView
End Sub
--------- 

bruce
 
    'Form to Datasheet (It's a subform)
    If Me.Customers.Form.CurrentView = 1 Then
        Me.Customers.SetFocus
        DoCmd.RunCommand acCmdSubformDatasheet
    End If

    'Datasheet to Form
    If Me.Customers.Form.CurrentView = 2 Then
        Me.Customers.SetFocus
        DoCmd.RunCommand acCmdSubformDatasheet
    End If

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From KP at sdsonline.net  Thu Jun  9 21:46:22 2005
From: KP at sdsonline.net (Kath Pelletti)
Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2005 12:46:22 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] Australia - find nearest location
References: <635B80FE6C7D5A409586A6A110D97D17A20A9F@ACSANCHOR.corp.acsalaska.com>
Message-ID: <007a01c56d66$9683a9b0$6601a8c0@user>

It's a very hot topic at the moment....thanks Mark
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Porter, Mark 
  To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving 
  Sent: Friday, June 10, 2005 11:33 AM
  Subject: RE: [AccessD] Australia - find nearest location


  They have been doing neat things with Google Maps, maybe something here
  will lead you to what you are looking for:

  http://www.cnn.com/2005/TECH/internet/06/09/google.map.hacks.ap/index.ht
  ml


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  From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
  [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Michael
  Maddison
  Sent: Thursday, June 09, 2005 4:48 PM
  To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
  Subject: RE: [AccessD] Australia - find nearest location

  Never tried myself, but the discussions here recently on MapPoint might
  lead the way.

  cheers

  Michael M

  Hi all - Just wondering whether there happens to be anyone on list who
  may already have done this - 

  I'm writing a new system for a training company and they want add a
  geographic search capability - ie. they would like to enter a suburb or
  postcode and the system displays will show the courses which run closest
  to them geographically.

  Any tips? Or if anyone has done this at all - can you tell me what your
  approach was?

  Thanks - rgds

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From Bruce.Bruen at railcorp.nsw.gov.au  Fri Jun 10 00:54:50 2005
From: Bruce.Bruen at railcorp.nsw.gov.au (Bruen, Bruce)
Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2005 15:54:50 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] A2K: How to change subform view
Message-ID: <F2BE8EAB3EA585418337B71BCE6F3BF304EBB5@msmet100.rail.nsw.gov.au>

Michael,

Both your Docmds are the same?????


bruce 

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Sent: Friday, 10 June 2005 12:38 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] A2K: How to change subform view

----- Original Message -----
From: "Bruen, Bruce" <Bruce.Bruen at railcorp.nsw.gov.au>
To: <AccessD at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Thursday, June 09, 2005 10:25 PM
Subject: [AccessD] A2K: How to change subform view


Hi guys again,
 
Memory has failed me.  In Access 2000, what is the code trick to change
the subform view from datasheet to normal?  
The following 2003 code does not work.
 
Private Sub Test_DblClick(Cancel As Integer)
    DoCmd.RunCommand acCmdSubformFormView
End Sub
--------- 

bruce
 
    'Form to Datasheet (It's a subform)
    If Me.Customers.Form.CurrentView = 1 Then
        Me.Customers.SetFocus
        DoCmd.RunCommand acCmdSubformDatasheet
    End If

    'Datasheet to Form
    If Me.Customers.Form.CurrentView = 2 Then
        Me.Customers.SetFocus
        DoCmd.RunCommand acCmdSubformDatasheet
    End If

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From mmattys at rochester.rr.com  Fri Jun 10 06:23:39 2005
From: mmattys at rochester.rr.com (Michael R Mattys)
Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2005 07:23:39 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] A2K: How to change subform view
References: <F2BE8EAB3EA585418337B71BCE6F3BF304EBB5@msmet100.rail.nsw.gov.au>
Message-ID: <008601c56dae$db1746c0$0202a8c0@default>

Hi Bruce,

It was not a mistake.
That's how it works.

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Bruen, Bruce" <Bruce.Bruen at railcorp.nsw.gov.au>
To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving"
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Friday, June 10, 2005 1:54 AM
Subject: RE: [AccessD] A2K: How to change subform view


> Michael,
>
> Both your Docmds are the same?????
>
>
> bruce
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Michael R
> Mattys
> Sent: Friday, 10 June 2005 12:38 PM
> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] A2K: How to change subform view
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Bruen, Bruce" <Bruce.Bruen at railcorp.nsw.gov.au>
> To: <AccessD at databaseadvisors.com>
> Sent: Thursday, June 09, 2005 10:25 PM
> Subject: [AccessD] A2K: How to change subform view
>
>
> Hi guys again,
>
> Memory has failed me.  In Access 2000, what is the code trick to change
> the subform view from datasheet to normal?
> The following 2003 code does not work.
>
> Private Sub Test_DblClick(Cancel As Integer)
>     DoCmd.RunCommand acCmdSubformFormView
> End Sub
> ---------
>
> bruce
>
>     'Form to Datasheet (It's a subform)
>     If Me.Customers.Form.CurrentView = 1 Then
>         Me.Customers.SetFocus
>         DoCmd.RunCommand acCmdSubformDatasheet
>     End If
>
>     'Datasheet to Form
>     If Me.Customers.Form.CurrentView = 2 Then
>         Me.Customers.SetFocus
>         DoCmd.RunCommand acCmdSubformDatasheet
>     End If
>
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From JHewson at karta.com  Fri Jun 10 07:42:02 2005
From: JHewson at karta.com (Jim Hewson)
Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2005 07:42:02 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Generating a rownumber field in a query
Message-ID: <9C382E065F54AE48BC3AA7925DCBB01C03628F6C@karta-exc-int.Karta.com>

If the results of the query will be used for a report, you don't need
the sequence number from the query.
Use the Group Header in the report to separate the Cycle numbers.
Put a text box in the detail section with "=1" in the Control Source.
Over Group should designated for the Running Sum.
Each time the report is run, the group sequence number is regenerated...
HTH.
Jim

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Sent: Thursday, June 09, 2005 9:09 PM
To: AccessD at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [AccessD] Generating a rownumber field in a query

Hi folks,
 
I want to output a sequence number as a field in a query result.
Everytime the query runs it should restart the sequence number from 1.
 
The query appends rows to a "testscript" table, every new test cycle we
generate a new set of test scripts which is made up of all the tests in
the previous cycle plus new tests that were added during the execution
of the last cycle.  The natural key for the output table is the cycle
number + the sequence number.
 
Cycle    Seq    Testname .....   
   1          1        blah
   1          2        blah blah
...
   2          1        blah blah
   2          2        blah blah blah
etc
 
The cycle number is input as a parameter to the append query.  But how
can I generate the sequence numbers?
 
tia
bruce
 
 
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From bheygood at abestsystems.com  Fri Jun 10 09:01:24 2005
From: bheygood at abestsystems.com (Bob Heygood)
Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2005 07:01:24 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Scrape Word Part II
In-Reply-To: <6A6AA9DF57E4F046BDA1E273BDDB6772337644@corp-es01.fleetpride.com>
Message-ID: <AIEKKBIAKDJNAFGABNJKOECDCNAA.bheygood@abestsystems.com>

thanks Jim.
I have looked before at Helen's code. Lots of great stuff there.

bob



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[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Hale, Jim
Sent: Wednesday, June 08, 2005 8:17 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Scrape Word Part II


At the very bottom of this link Helen Feddema has some code that may help
you.
http://www.helenfeddema.com/CodeSamples.htm

Jim Hale

-----Original Message-----
From: Bob Heygood [mailto:bheygood at abestsystems.com]
Sent: Wednesday, June 08, 2005 8:35 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: [AccessD] Scrape Word Part II


Hello to the list,

Well, my project is alive again. This time I have the luxury of being able
to create the Word document from which I need to cull the info. I still need
to have a Word table but I can create bookmarks or whatever within the table
in the document.
To recap I need to import 10 pieces of text from a Word document and store
them in a mdb table.
Jim Hale's code below worked really good except that we were pressed for
time and did not ever get it to work in all areas of the Word doc.
So my first question is how to search the Word doc to find the text,
bookmarks, fields, custom properties or ????


TIA,

Bob Heygood

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Sent: Monday, April 18, 2005 8:54 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Scrape Word


Whatever it takes to get the job done! Sorry I couldn't be more help.
Jim Hale

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Sent: Monday, April 18, 2005 10:09 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Scrape Word


Thanks Jim
I finally just ran the job as it took about 4 hours to process 256
documents.
it is a one time deal and the customer needed to have the results.

your help was fantastic.

bob



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[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Hale, Jim
Sent: Friday, April 15, 2005 3:18 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Scrape Word


I'll look at it some more on Monday. You might examine the selection object
in the Word application. It has numerous properties and methods one or more
of which should do the trick.
Jim Hale

-----Original Message-----
From: Bob Heygood [mailto:bheygood at abestsystems.com]
Sent: Friday, April 15, 2005 4:52 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Scrape Word


yes in a table cell.
again your code is working super.
but only grabs the first word, sometimes there is more than one word in the
cell, and I would like to capture all of them.
if you have thought, I would welcome it.


again I tried to manipulate the code further but it acts very erratic when
in a table cell.

thanks for the great help.

bob


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[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Hale, Jim
Sent: Thursday, April 14, 2005 12:53 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Scrape Word


So the data you want (including the search string) is in a table cell? In
the code I sent you delete
   wd.Selection.Start = wd.Selection.End
   Call wd.Selection.EndOf(wdSentence, wdExtend)

and replace with
   wd.Selection.Next(Unit:=wdWord, Count:=1).Select

Or if the entire string is returned you can replace the search string with
an empty string "" using the following function:

Function ReplaceString(strTextIn As String, strFind As String, strReplace As
String, fCaseSensitive As Boolean) As String

  Dim strTmp As String
  Dim intPos As Integer
  Dim intCaseSensitive As Integer

  intCaseSensitive = IIf(fCaseSensitive, 2, 1)

  strTmp = strTextIn
  intPos = InStr(1, strTmp, strFind, intCaseSensitive)

  Do While intPos > 0
    strTmp = Left$(strTmp, intPos - 1) & strReplace & Mid$(strTmp, intPos +
Len(strFind))
    intPos = InStr(intPos + Len(strReplace), strTmp, strFind,
intCaseSensitive)
  Loop

  ReplaceString = strTmp

End Function

Jim Hale


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From mmattys at rochester.rr.com  Fri Jun 10 09:03:47 2005
From: mmattys at rochester.rr.com (Michael R Mattys)
Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2005 10:03:47 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Australia - find nearest location
References: <635B80FE6C7D5A409586A6A110D97D17A20A9F@ACSANCHOR.corp.acsalaska.com>
	<007a01c56d66$9683a9b0$6601a8c0@user>
Message-ID: <00e101c56dc5$39c9f990$0202a8c0@default>

Kath,

Steven Pushee indicates that you can use the
MapPoint Web$ervice for Australia in this link:

http://www.mp2kmag.com/mappoint/discussion/viewtopic.asp?t=6860&sid=e802f4fd
47057ee6724f62a2ff4fbcc2
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From: "Kath Pelletti" <KP at sdsonline.net>
To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving"
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Sent: Thursday, June 09, 2005 10:46 PM
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Australia - find nearest location


It's a very hot topic at the moment....thanks Mark
  ----- Original Message -----
  From: Porter, Mark
  To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
  Sent: Friday, June 10, 2005 11:33 AM
  Subject: RE: [AccessD] Australia - find nearest location


  They have been doing neat things with Google Maps, maybe something here
  will lead you to what you are looking for:

  http://www.cnn.com/2005/TECH/internet/06/09/google.map.hacks.ap/index.ht
  ml


  -----Original Message-----
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  [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Michael
  Maddison
  Sent: Thursday, June 09, 2005 4:48 PM
  To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
  Subject: RE: [AccessD] Australia - find nearest location

  Never tried myself, but the discussions here recently on MapPoint might
  lead the way.

  cheers

  Michael M

  Hi all - Just wondering whether there happens to be anyone on list who
  may already have done this -

  I'm writing a new system for a training company and they want add a
  geographic search capability - ie. they would like to enter a suburb or
  postcode and the system displays will show the courses which run closest
  to them geographically.

  Any tips? Or if anyone has done this at all - can you tell me what your
  approach was?

  Thanks - rgds

  ______________________________________________
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  Software Design & Solutions Pty Ltd.
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  Fax: 9505-6430
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From dejpolsys at hotmail.com  Fri Jun 10 09:41:01 2005
From: dejpolsys at hotmail.com (William Hindman)
Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2005 10:41:01 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] A2K: How to change subform view
References: <F2BE8EAB3EA585418337B71BCE6F3BF304EBB5@msmet100.rail.nsw.gov.au>
Message-ID: <BAY103-DAV6BF9824505EE0FB7BE7F3AEFF0@phx.gbl>

Bruce:

..Matty's code is correct:

DoCmd.RunCommand acCmdSubformFormView
..switches the Subform to FormView.

DoCmd.RunCommand acCmdSubformDatasheetView
..switches the Subform to DatasheetView

DoCmd.RunCommand acCmdSubformDatasheet
..toggles between the 2 views.

..hth :)

William

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To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving" 
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Friday, June 10, 2005 1:54 AM
Subject: RE: [AccessD] A2K: How to change subform view


> Michael,
>
> Both your Docmds are the same?????
>
>
> bruce
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Michael R
> Mattys
> Sent: Friday, 10 June 2005 12:38 PM
> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] A2K: How to change subform view
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Bruen, Bruce" <Bruce.Bruen at railcorp.nsw.gov.au>
> To: <AccessD at databaseadvisors.com>
> Sent: Thursday, June 09, 2005 10:25 PM
> Subject: [AccessD] A2K: How to change subform view
>
>
> Hi guys again,
>
> Memory has failed me.  In Access 2000, what is the code trick to change
> the subform view from datasheet to normal?
> The following 2003 code does not work.
>
> Private Sub Test_DblClick(Cancel As Integer)
>    DoCmd.RunCommand acCmdSubformFormView
> End Sub
> --------- 
>
> bruce
>
>    'Form to Datasheet (It's a subform)
>    If Me.Customers.Form.CurrentView = 1 Then
>        Me.Customers.SetFocus
>        DoCmd.RunCommand acCmdSubformDatasheet
>    End If
>
>    'Datasheet to Form
>    If Me.Customers.Form.CurrentView = 2 Then
>        Me.Customers.SetFocus
>        DoCmd.RunCommand acCmdSubformDatasheet
>    End If
>
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From JHewson at karta.com  Fri Jun 10 11:12:23 2005
From: JHewson at karta.com (Jim Hewson)
Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2005 11:12:23 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Filtering a sub-subform
Message-ID: <9C382E065F54AE48BC3AA7925DCBB01C03628FA8@karta-exc-int.Karta.com>


I'm having difficulty filtering a sub-subform in A2K.

The main form has subform1 which contains subform2.
A combobox on subform2 filters the records, which works when the form is
opened as a main form.
Subform1 is filtered using a listbox on subform1 and is not linked to
the main form.
Subform2 is linked to subform1.

I need to filter the records in subform2 with the combobox and still be
able to edit and add records.

How is this done?

Jim 



From martyconnelly at shaw.ca  Fri Jun 10 11:17:26 2005
From: martyconnelly at shaw.ca (MartyConnelly)
Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2005 09:17:26 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Scrape Word Part II
References: <AIEKKBIAKDJNAFGABNJKOECDCNAA.bheygood@abestsystems.com>
Message-ID: <42A9BD16.9050504@shaw.ca>

As to custom properties you could use the dsofiles.dll, it works for any 
ole type file
mdb,doc,xls,ppt or whatever visio uses, this also works from vb.net, 
doesn't require word be installed.
There is also code to search for text which might be modified for 
bookmarks but
there are two types of word bookmarks.
http://www.word.mvps.org/faqs/macrosvba/WorkWithBookmarks.htm

You could try searching this site especially the links to other word 
mvp's like cindy meister
I think you will have to poke around to find all the bits and pieces
http://word.mvps.org
or the main site
http://www.mvps.org


'See MSKB and Dsofile.exe Lets You Edit Office Document Properties from 
Visual Basic and ASP
'Microsoft Knowledge Base Article - 224351
'and download dsofile.exe
'http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=224351
'Add a reference (Tools | References in the VBE window) to it.
' depending on path where you have installed dsofile.dll
'Put the following in a new module and you should be OK

'Dsofile.dll lets you edit Office document properties without
'Office in Visual Basic .NET 2003 and in Visual Basic .NET 2002
'http://support.microsoft.com/?id=224351
'===========================================================
'http://www.word.mvps.org/faqs/macrosvba/WorkWithBookmarks.htm
Private oFilePropReader As DSOleFile.PropertyReader
Private oDocProp As DSOleFile.DocumentProperties

Public Sub GetPropsFromDirectory()
'this routine gets all doc files in a directory and shows Line Count and 
author
 
Dim ffile As String
On Error Resume Next
'careful with above line
'this is Quick and Dirty used to avoid missing propereties on some filetypes
' this can be used with microsoft, doc, ppt, xls and mdb files
    ffile = Dir("c:\wordvba\*.doc")
    Do While ffile <> "" 'recursive search for sub directories can be 
written
        If ffile <> "." And ffile <> ".." Then
            Set oFilePropReader = New DSOleFile.PropertyReader
            Set oDocProp = _
            oFilePropReader.GetDocumentProperties("c:\wordvba\" & ffile)
            MsgBox oDocProp.Name & " " & oDocProp.PageCount & _
               " pages " & oDocProp.Author
              With oDocProp
        Debug.Print "Name " & .Name
        Debug.Print "Application Name " & .AppName
        Debug.Print "Author " & .Author
        Debug.Print "Category " & .Category
        Debug.Print "Class Id " & .CLSID
        Debug.Print "Comments " & .Comments
        Debug.Print "Company " & .Company
        'Debug.Print "Custom " & .CustomProperties 'check index values
        Debug.Print "Create date " & .DateCreated
        Debug.Print "Last edited " & .DateLastEdited
        Debug.Print "Last printed " & .DateLastPrinted
        Debug.Print "Last saved " & .DateLastSaved
        Debug.Print "Contains Macros " & .HasMacros 'doesn't work with 
ppt files
        'Debug.Print .Icon 'you can view thumbnail in picture object
        Debug.Print "Read only " & .IsReadOnly
        Debug.Print "Keywords " & .Keywords
        Debug.Print "Last edited by " & .LastEditedBy
        Debug.Print "Line Count " & .LineCount
        Debug.Print "Location " & .Location
        Debug.Print "Manager " & .Manager
        Debug.Print "Page Count " & .PageCount
        Debug.Print "Paragraphs "; .ParagraphCount
        Debug.Print "Program Id " & .ProgId
        Debug.Print "Revision No. " & .RevisionNumber
        Debug.Print "Slides "; .SlideCount
        Debug.Print "Subject " & .Subject
        Debug.Print "Title " & .Title
        Debug.Print "Version " & .Version
        Debug.Print "WordCount " & .WordCount
        Debug.Print "Char Cnt " & .CharacterCount
        Debug.Print " "
        End With
            ffile = Dir()
            Set oDocProp = Nothing
            Set oFilePropReader = Nothing
           
        End If
    Loop
End Sub

Here is some quick and dirty code that opens a Word doc from inside Access,
searches for the string "special code:" and sets a string variable equal to
the sentence that follows the code string. If your documents all have the
same string you can find that string and select words, sentences or
paragraphs that come after it. from  Jim Hale

Function LiftText()

Dim wd As Word.Application, strPhrase As String, strFindphrase As String
strFindphrase = "special code:"
Set wd = New Word.Application
wd.Documents.Open "C:\Test.doc"
wd.Visible = True
wd.Selection.Find.ClearFormatting
    With wd.Selection.Find
        .Text = strFindphrase
        .Replacement.Text = ""
        .Forward = True
        .Wrap = wdFindContinue
        .Format = False
        .MatchCase = False
        .MatchWholeWord = False
        .MatchWildcards = False
        .MatchSoundsLike = False
        .MatchAllWordForms = False
    End With
    wd.Selection.Find.Execute
    wd.Selection.Start = wd.Selection.End
   Call wd.Selection.EndOf(wdSentence, wdExtend)
    strPhrase = wd.Selection
    MsgBox "Look what I found: " & strPhrase
    wd.ActiveDocument.Close
    wd.Quit
    Set wd = Nothing
End Function


Bob Heygood wrote:

>thanks Jim.
>I have looked before at Helen's code. Lots of great stuff there.
>
>bob
>
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Hale, Jim
>Sent: Wednesday, June 08, 2005 8:17 AM
>To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
>Subject: RE: [AccessD] Scrape Word Part II
>
>
>At the very bottom of this link Helen Feddema has some code that may help
>you.
>http://www.helenfeddema.com/CodeSamples.htm
>
>Jim Hale
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Bob Heygood [mailto:bheygood at abestsystems.com]
>Sent: Wednesday, June 08, 2005 8:35 AM
>To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
>Subject: [AccessD] Scrape Word Part II
>
>
>Hello to the list,
>
>Well, my project is alive again. This time I have the luxury of being able
>to create the Word document from which I need to cull the info. I still need
>to have a Word table but I can create bookmarks or whatever within the table
>in the document.
>To recap I need to import 10 pieces of text from a Word document and store
>them in a mdb table.
>Jim Hale's code below worked really good except that we were pressed for
>time and did not ever get it to work in all areas of the Word doc.
>So my first question is how to search the Word doc to find the text,
>bookmarks, fields, custom properties or ????
>
>
>TIA,
>
>Bob Heygood
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Hale, Jim
>Sent: Monday, April 18, 2005 8:54 AM
>To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
>Subject: RE: [AccessD] Scrape Word
>
>
>Whatever it takes to get the job done! Sorry I couldn't be more help.
>Jim Hale
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Bob Heygood [mailto:bheygood at abestsystems.com]
>Sent: Monday, April 18, 2005 10:09 AM
>To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
>Subject: RE: [AccessD] Scrape Word
>
>
>Thanks Jim
>I finally just ran the job as it took about 4 hours to process 256
>documents.
>it is a one time deal and the customer needed to have the results.
>
>your help was fantastic.
>
>bob
>
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Hale, Jim
>Sent: Friday, April 15, 2005 3:18 PM
>To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
>Subject: RE: [AccessD] Scrape Word
>
>
>I'll look at it some more on Monday. You might examine the selection object
>in the Word application. It has numerous properties and methods one or more
>of which should do the trick.
>Jim Hale
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Bob Heygood [mailto:bheygood at abestsystems.com]
>Sent: Friday, April 15, 2005 4:52 PM
>To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
>Subject: RE: [AccessD] Scrape Word
>
>
>yes in a table cell.
>again your code is working super.
>but only grabs the first word, sometimes there is more than one word in the
>cell, and I would like to capture all of them.
>if you have thought, I would welcome it.
>
>
>again I tried to manipulate the code further but it acts very erratic when
>in a table cell.
>
>thanks for the great help.
>
>bob
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Hale, Jim
>Sent: Thursday, April 14, 2005 12:53 PM
>To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
>Subject: RE: [AccessD] Scrape Word
>
>
>So the data you want (including the search string) is in a table cell? In
>the code I sent you delete
>   wd.Selection.Start = wd.Selection.End
>   Call wd.Selection.EndOf(wdSentence, wdExtend)
>
>and replace with
>   wd.Selection.Next(Unit:=wdWord, Count:=1).Select
>
>Or if the entire string is returned you can replace the search string with
>an empty string "" using the following function:
>
>Function ReplaceString(strTextIn As String, strFind As String, strReplace As
>String, fCaseSensitive As Boolean) As String
>
>  Dim strTmp As String
>  Dim intPos As Integer
>  Dim intCaseSensitive As Integer
>
>  intCaseSensitive = IIf(fCaseSensitive, 2, 1)
>
>  strTmp = strTextIn
>  intPos = InStr(1, strTmp, strFind, intCaseSensitive)
>
>  Do While intPos > 0
>    strTmp = Left$(strTmp, intPos - 1) & strReplace & Mid$(strTmp, intPos +
>Len(strFind))
>    intPos = InStr(intPos + Len(strReplace), strTmp, strFind,
>intCaseSensitive)
>  Loop
>
>  ReplaceString = strTmp
>
>End Function
>
>Jim Hale
>
>
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From darsant at gmail.com  Fri Jun 10 11:21:28 2005
From: darsant at gmail.com (Josh McFarlane)
Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2005 11:21:28 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Filtering a sub-subform
In-Reply-To: <9C382E065F54AE48BC3AA7925DCBB01C03628FA8@karta-exc-int.Karta.com>
References: <9C382E065F54AE48BC3AA7925DCBB01C03628FA8@karta-exc-int.Karta.com>
Message-ID: <53c8e05a050610092144430ca3@mail.gmail.com>

On 6/10/05, Jim Hewson <JHewson at karta.com> wrote:
> 
> I'm having difficulty filtering a sub-subform in A2K.
> 
> The main form has subform1 which contains subform2.
> A combobox on subform2 filters the records, which works when the form is
> opened as a main form.
> Subform1 is filtered using a listbox on subform1 and is not linked to
> the main form.
> Subform2 is linked to subform1.
> 
> I need to filter the records in subform2 with the combobox and still be
> able to edit and add records.
> 
> How is this done?
> 
> Jim
How are you filtering this at the moment? Are you filtering using
filters or by modifying the recordsource on the afterupdate event of
the combo box?

-- 
HTH
Josh McFarlane

"Peace cannot be kept by force. It can only be achieved by understanding."
-Albert Einstein


From martyconnelly at shaw.ca  Fri Jun 10 11:31:22 2005
From: martyconnelly at shaw.ca (MartyConnelly)
Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2005 09:31:22 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Scrape Word Part II
References: <AIEKKBIAKDJNAFGABNJKOECDCNAA.bheygood@abestsystems.com>
Message-ID: <42A9C05A.7030602@shaw.ca>

Just as a matter of interest this will be easy to do in the new Office 
12 XML word formats
you just write an XSLT to pick out the relevant bits. According to Brian 
Jones MS Word Project
Manager at this week's TechED. Microsoft will backward patch most 
versions of word
 to handle or at least read this new format

http://blogs.msdn.com/brian_jones/archive/2005/06/08/426818.aspx#comments

Bob Heygood wrote:

>thanks Jim.
>I have looked before at Helen's code. Lots of great stuff there.
>
>bob
>
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Hale, Jim
>Sent: Wednesday, June 08, 2005 8:17 AM
>To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
>Subject: RE: [AccessD] Scrape Word Part II
>
>
>At the very bottom of this link Helen Feddema has some code that may help
>you.
>http://www.helenfeddema.com/CodeSamples.htm
>
>Jim Hale
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Bob Heygood [mailto:bheygood at abestsystems.com]
>Sent: Wednesday, June 08, 2005 8:35 AM
>To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
>Subject: [AccessD] Scrape Word Part II
>
>
>Hello to the list,
>
>Well, my project is alive again. This time I have the luxury of being able
>to create the Word document from which I need to cull the info. I still need
>to have a Word table but I can create bookmarks or whatever within the table
>in the document.
>To recap I need to import 10 pieces of text from a Word document and store
>them in a mdb table.
>Jim Hale's code below worked really good except that we were pressed for
>time and did not ever get it to work in all areas of the Word doc.
>So my first question is how to search the Word doc to find the text,
>bookmarks, fields, custom properties or ????
>
>
>TIA,
>
>Bob Heygood
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Hale, Jim
>Sent: Monday, April 18, 2005 8:54 AM
>To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
>Subject: RE: [AccessD] Scrape Word
>
>
>Whatever it takes to get the job done! Sorry I couldn't be more help.
>Jim Hale
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Bob Heygood [mailto:bheygood at abestsystems.com]
>Sent: Monday, April 18, 2005 10:09 AM
>To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
>Subject: RE: [AccessD] Scrape Word
>
>
>Thanks Jim
>I finally just ran the job as it took about 4 hours to process 256
>documents.
>it is a one time deal and the customer needed to have the results.
>
>your help was fantastic.
>
>bob
>
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Hale, Jim
>Sent: Friday, April 15, 2005 3:18 PM
>To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
>Subject: RE: [AccessD] Scrape Word
>
>
>I'll look at it some more on Monday. You might examine the selection object
>in the Word application. It has numerous properties and methods one or more
>of which should do the trick.
>Jim Hale
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Bob Heygood [mailto:bheygood at abestsystems.com]
>Sent: Friday, April 15, 2005 4:52 PM
>To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
>Subject: RE: [AccessD] Scrape Word
>
>
>yes in a table cell.
>again your code is working super.
>but only grabs the first word, sometimes there is more than one word in the
>cell, and I would like to capture all of them.
>if you have thought, I would welcome it.
>
>
>again I tried to manipulate the code further but it acts very erratic when
>in a table cell.
>
>thanks for the great help.
>
>bob
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Hale, Jim
>Sent: Thursday, April 14, 2005 12:53 PM
>To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
>Subject: RE: [AccessD] Scrape Word
>
>
>So the data you want (including the search string) is in a table cell? In
>the code I sent you delete
>   wd.Selection.Start = wd.Selection.End
>   Call wd.Selection.EndOf(wdSentence, wdExtend)
>
>and replace with
>   wd.Selection.Next(Unit:=wdWord, Count:=1).Select
>
>Or if the entire string is returned you can replace the search string with
>an empty string "" using the following function:
>
>Function ReplaceString(strTextIn As String, strFind As String, strReplace As
>String, fCaseSensitive As Boolean) As String
>
>  Dim strTmp As String
>  Dim intPos As Integer
>  Dim intCaseSensitive As Integer
>
>  intCaseSensitive = IIf(fCaseSensitive, 2, 1)
>
>  strTmp = strTextIn
>  intPos = InStr(1, strTmp, strFind, intCaseSensitive)
>
>  Do While intPos > 0
>    strTmp = Left$(strTmp, intPos - 1) & strReplace & Mid$(strTmp, intPos +
>Len(strFind))
>    intPos = InStr(intPos + Len(strReplace), strTmp, strFind,
>intCaseSensitive)
>  Loop
>
>  ReplaceString = strTmp
>
>End Function
>
>Jim Hale
>
>
>  
>

-- 
Marty Connelly
Victoria, B.C.
Canada





From JHewson at karta.com  Fri Jun 10 12:45:06 2005
From: JHewson at karta.com (Jim Hewson)
Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2005 12:45:06 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Filtering a sub-subform
Message-ID: <9C382E065F54AE48BC3AA7925DCBB01C03628FBE@karta-exc-int.Karta.com>

There is no filter currently.
I'm adding the filter through the afterupdate event of the combo box.
Thanks,
Jim

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Josh
McFarlane
Sent: Friday, June 10, 2005 11:21 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Filtering a sub-subform

On 6/10/05, Jim Hewson <JHewson at karta.com> wrote:
> 
> I'm having difficulty filtering a sub-subform in A2K.
> 
> The main form has subform1 which contains subform2.
> A combobox on subform2 filters the records, which works when the form 
> is opened as a main form.
> Subform1 is filtered using a listbox on subform1 and is not linked to 
> the main form.
> Subform2 is linked to subform1.
> 
> I need to filter the records in subform2 with the combobox and still 
> be able to edit and add records.
> 
> How is this done?
> 
> Jim
How are you filtering this at the moment? Are you filtering using
filters or by modifying the recordsource on the afterupdate event of the
combo box?

--
HTH
Josh McFarlane

"Peace cannot be kept by force. It can only be achieved by
understanding."
-Albert Einstein
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From accessd at shaw.ca  Fri Jun 10 13:00:01 2005
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2005 11:00:01 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Friday humour
In-Reply-To: <9C382E065F54AE48BC3AA7925DCBB01C03628FBE@karta-exc-int.Karta.com>
Message-ID: <0IHV0011IRBYPU@l-daemon>

Hi All:

When first read I thought this was a joke... but I think it is for real;
which of course would make it more hilarious. Check this out:
http://www.catholicintl.com/epologetics/articles/science/geochallenge.htm

Jim 



From DElam at jenkens.com  Fri Jun 10 13:14:47 2005
From: DElam at jenkens.com (Elam, Debbie)
Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2005 13:14:47 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Friday humour
Message-ID: <7B1961ED924D1A459E378C9B1BB22B4C0492C986@natexch.jenkens.com>

Actually they are right.  The whole thing comes down to perspective.  Of
course the math is a heck of a lot easier if you simply consider the sun the
center around which the solar system revolves.  In this case as many others,
why not go with the simplest answer that gives the most correct predictions?
Why complicate the issue by insisting that a certain perspective has to be
maintained?  Groan, no doubt they will call it proof.  Of course the reverse
is just as true.  No one can prove that the sun revolves around the Earth,
but that is a minor detail.

Debbie

-----Original Message-----
From: Jim Lawrence [mailto:accessd at shaw.ca] 
Sent: Friday, June 10, 2005 1:00 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] Friday humour


Hi All:

When first read I thought this was a joke... but I think it is for real;
which of course would make it more hilarious. Check this out:
http://www.catholicintl.com/epologetics/articles/science/geochallenge.htm

Jim 

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From accessd at shaw.ca  Fri Jun 10 13:23:03 2005
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2005 11:23:03 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Friday humour
In-Reply-To: <7B1961ED924D1A459E378C9B1BB22B4C0492C986@natexch.jenkens.com>
Message-ID: <0IHV00LBLSECYT@l-daemon>

What's next... a challenge from the 'Flat Earth Society'?

Jim

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Elam, Debbie
Sent: Friday, June 10, 2005 11:15 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Friday humour

Actually they are right.  The whole thing comes down to perspective.  Of
course the math is a heck of a lot easier if you simply consider the sun the
center around which the solar system revolves.  In this case as many others,
why not go with the simplest answer that gives the most correct predictions?
Why complicate the issue by insisting that a certain perspective has to be
maintained?  Groan, no doubt they will call it proof.  Of course the reverse
is just as true.  No one can prove that the sun revolves around the Earth,
but that is a minor detail.

Debbie

-----Original Message-----
From: Jim Lawrence [mailto:accessd at shaw.ca] 
Sent: Friday, June 10, 2005 1:00 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] Friday humour


Hi All:

When first read I thought this was a joke... but I think it is for real;
which of course would make it more hilarious. Check this out:
http://www.catholicintl.com/epologetics/articles/science/geochallenge.htm

Jim 

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From drboz at pacbell.net  Fri Jun 10 13:24:57 2005
From: drboz at pacbell.net (Don Bozarth)
Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2005 11:24:57 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Friday humour
References: <7B1961ED924D1A459E378C9B1BB22B4C0492C986@natexch.jenkens.com>
Message-ID: <002701c56de9$b578af40$6401a8c0@don>

Well, if the solar system is Earth centered, a lot of the math dealing with
planetary motion goes right out the window... not to mention that little
sniggle called gravity.  The math of orbital mechanics suddenly disappears.
Were all that math wrong, we could never have made it to the Moon, Venus,
Mars, Jupiter, Saturn, and Uranus those places manmade satellites have
visited.

Don B.

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From: "Elam, Debbie" <DElam at jenkens.com>
To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'"
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Friday, June 10, 2005 11:14 AM
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Friday humour


> Actually they are right.  The whole thing comes down to perspective.  Of
> course the math is a heck of a lot easier if you simply consider the sun
the
> center around which the solar system revolves.  In this case as many
others,
> why not go with the simplest answer that gives the most correct
predictions?
> Why complicate the issue by insisting that a certain perspective has to be
> maintained?  Groan, no doubt they will call it proof.  Of course the
reverse
> is just as true.  No one can prove that the sun revolves around the Earth,
> but that is a minor detail.
>
> Debbie
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jim Lawrence [mailto:accessd at shaw.ca]
> Sent: Friday, June 10, 2005 1:00 PM
> To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
> Subject: [AccessD] Friday humour
>
>
> Hi All:
>
> When first read I thought this was a joke... but I think it is for real;
> which of course would make it more hilarious. Check this out:
> http://www.catholicintl.com/epologetics/articles/science/geochallenge.htm
>
> Jim
>
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From darsant at gmail.com  Fri Jun 10 13:25:55 2005
From: darsant at gmail.com (Josh McFarlane)
Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2005 13:25:55 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Filtering a sub-subform
In-Reply-To: <9C382E065F54AE48BC3AA7925DCBB01C03628FBE@karta-exc-int.Karta.com>
References: <9C382E065F54AE48BC3AA7925DCBB01C03628FBE@karta-exc-int.Karta.com>
Message-ID: <53c8e05a05061011254877bf7a@mail.gmail.com>

On 6/10/05, Jim Hewson <JHewson at karta.com> wrote:
> There is no filter currently.
> I'm adding the filter through the afterupdate event of the combo box.
> Thanks,
> Jim

It may be easiest to set the recordsource on the afterupdate (SELECT *
FROM Table WHERE FilteredField = " & CmbBoxSelection

Don't forget to Requery the form too after updating it.


-- 
Josh McFarlane

"Peace cannot be kept by force. It can only be achieved by understanding."
-Albert Einstein


From cfoust at infostatsystems.com  Fri Jun 10 13:27:49 2005
From: cfoust at infostatsystems.com (Charlotte Foust)
Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2005 11:27:49 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Friday humour
Message-ID: <E61FC1D4B1918244905B113C680BEA86873A90@infoserver01.infostat.local>

No, I think they're all in public office already! ,wink>

Charlotte Foust


-----Original Message-----
From: Jim Lawrence [mailto:accessd at shaw.ca] 
Sent: Friday, June 10, 2005 11:23 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Friday humour


What's next... a challenge from the 'Flat Earth Society'?

Jim

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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Elam, Debbie
Sent: Friday, June 10, 2005 11:15 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Friday humour

Actually they are right.  The whole thing comes down to perspective.  Of
course the math is a heck of a lot easier if you simply consider the sun
the center around which the solar system revolves.  In this case as many
others, why not go with the simplest answer that gives the most correct
predictions? Why complicate the issue by insisting that a certain
perspective has to be maintained?  Groan, no doubt they will call it
proof.  Of course the reverse is just as true.  No one can prove that
the sun revolves around the Earth, but that is a minor detail.

Debbie

-----Original Message-----
From: Jim Lawrence [mailto:accessd at shaw.ca] 
Sent: Friday, June 10, 2005 1:00 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] Friday humour


Hi All:

When first read I thought this was a joke... but I think it is for real;
which of course would make it more hilarious. Check this out:
http://www.catholicintl.com/epologetics/articles/science/geochallenge.ht
m

Jim 

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From Lambert.Heenan at AIG.com  Fri Jun 10 13:33:16 2005
From: Lambert.Heenan at AIG.com (Heenan, Lambert)
Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2005 14:33:16 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Friday humour
Message-ID: <1D7828CDB8350747AFE9D69E0E90DA1F1176C2D3@xlivmbx21.aig.com>

Though I makes me feel unclean to even think about responding to such orgs
as the CAI, I will simply state that the question / challenge not only
points out their inbuilt prejudice on the subject (as does the web site,
which states that no-one *will* be able to offer any proof), but also
reveals their utter ignorance of the theory that their behind the times
dogma wishes to deny.

The sun does not revolve around the Earth and the Earth does not revolve
around the sun. They both orbit a common center of gravity, to which all the
other planets in the solar system contribute.

If they are so damned certain that the sun orbits the Earth then why don't
they offer up their "proof"?

Furthermore, no scientific minded person would be silly enough to suggest
that any theory can be proven. The only thing you can do to a theory is
discover more data that *supports* it and its predictions, or new data that
*refutes* the theory. Once the refutation data is on hand the theory must be
abandoned, or used with the understanding that it has limits. Thus when
Einstein's explanation of the orbit of Mercury was shown to be correct *by
observation*, the previous Newtonian theory had been shown to be wrong. But
then we always knew it was wrong anyway. It's just that it took until
Einstein for someone to explain the differences between observation and
Newton's theory.

Lambert


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Elam, Debbie
Sent: Friday, June 10, 2005 2:15 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Friday humour


Actually they are right.  The whole thing comes down to perspective.  Of
course the math is a heck of a lot easier if you simply consider the sun the
center around which the solar system revolves.  In this case as many others,
why not go with the simplest answer that gives the most correct predictions?
Why complicate the issue by insisting that a certain perspective has to be
maintained?  Groan, no doubt they will call it proof.  Of course the reverse
is just as true.  No one can prove that the sun revolves around the Earth,
but that is a minor detail.

Debbie

-----Original Message-----
From: Jim Lawrence [mailto:accessd at shaw.ca] 
Sent: Friday, June 10, 2005 1:00 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] Friday humour


Hi All:

When first read I thought this was a joke... but I think it is for real;
which of course would make it more hilarious. Check this out:
http://www.catholicintl.com/epologetics/articles/science/geochallenge.htm

Jim 

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From DElam at jenkens.com  Fri Jun 10 13:39:17 2005
From: DElam at jenkens.com (Elam, Debbie)
Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2005 13:39:17 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Friday humour
Message-ID: <7B1961ED924D1A459E378C9B1BB22B4C0492C988@natexch.jenkens.com>

No it does not throw it out the window, it just makes the lovely and simple
orbital mechanics equations into monster equations that take a super
computer to calculate with any proficiency.  Of course those other planets
just orbit around the sun while the whole mess orbits around the Earth ;-).
That was the real reason it became obvious that the best method of
calculation was to put the sun in the center of the system.  The whole mess
with the rings was to account for planetary movements.  It is a little like
the headaches caused when you try to take the Earth's total motion into
account when compared to the motion of another star in the milky way galaxy
which is all rotating around a cluster of stars in the galaxy center.  Much
more pleasant to break it into chunks and consider the solar system a single
unit when talking about motion with respect to the galaxy.

Debbie

-----Original Message-----
From: Don Bozarth [mailto:drboz at pacbell.net] 
Sent: Friday, June 10, 2005 1:25 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Friday humour


Well, if the solar system is Earth centered, a lot of the math dealing with
planetary motion goes right out the window... not to mention that little
sniggle called gravity.  The math of orbital mechanics suddenly disappears.
Were all that math wrong, we could never have made it to the Moon, Venus,
Mars, Jupiter, Saturn, and Uranus those places manmade satellites have
visited.

Don B.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Elam, Debbie" <DElam at jenkens.com>
To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'"
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Friday, June 10, 2005 11:14 AM
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Friday humour


> Actually they are right.  The whole thing comes down to perspective.  Of
> course the math is a heck of a lot easier if you simply consider the sun
the
> center around which the solar system revolves.  In this case as many
others,
> why not go with the simplest answer that gives the most correct
predictions?
> Why complicate the issue by insisting that a certain perspective has to be
> maintained?  Groan, no doubt they will call it proof.  Of course the
reverse
> is just as true.  No one can prove that the sun revolves around the Earth,
> but that is a minor detail.
>
> Debbie
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jim Lawrence [mailto:accessd at shaw.ca]
> Sent: Friday, June 10, 2005 1:00 PM
> To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
> Subject: [AccessD] Friday humour
>
>
> Hi All:
>
> When first read I thought this was a joke... but I think it is for real;
> which of course would make it more hilarious. Check this out:
> http://www.catholicintl.com/epologetics/articles/science/geochallenge.htm
>
> Jim
>
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From DElam at jenkens.com  Fri Jun 10 13:46:12 2005
From: DElam at jenkens.com (Elam, Debbie)
Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2005 13:46:12 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Friday humour
Message-ID: <7B1961ED924D1A459E378C9B1BB22B4C0492C989@natexch.jenkens.com>

Are any of you under the impression that I support this garbage?  They have
a point, but as I pointed out it is a really ridiculous one.  If two objects
are in motion around each other it is a matter of perspective to say which
orbits the other without a point of reference they are moving against.
Space itself is fairly reference less.  It is the motion of other planets as
well that enables us to pick a gravitational center of the solar system so
we can come up with coherent math that explains it all quite nicely.

Debbie

-----Original Message-----
From: Heenan, Lambert [mailto:Lambert.Heenan at aig.com] 
Sent: Friday, June 10, 2005 1:33 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Friday humour


Though I makes me feel unclean to even think about responding to such orgs
as the CAI, I will simply state that the question / challenge not only
points out their inbuilt prejudice on the subject (as does the web site,
which states that no-one *will* be able to offer any proof), but also
reveals their utter ignorance of the theory that their behind the times
dogma wishes to deny.

The sun does not revolve around the Earth and the Earth does not revolve
around the sun. They both orbit a common center of gravity, to which all the
other planets in the solar system contribute.

If they are so damned certain that the sun orbits the Earth then why don't
they offer up their "proof"?

Furthermore, no scientific minded person would be silly enough to suggest
that any theory can be proven. The only thing you can do to a theory is
discover more data that *supports* it and its predictions, or new data that
*refutes* the theory. Once the refutation data is on hand the theory must be
abandoned, or used with the understanding that it has limits. Thus when
Einstein's explanation of the orbit of Mercury was shown to be correct *by
observation*, the previous Newtonian theory had been shown to be wrong. But
then we always knew it was wrong anyway. It's just that it took until
Einstein for someone to explain the differences between observation and
Newton's theory.

Lambert


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Elam, Debbie
Sent: Friday, June 10, 2005 2:15 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Friday humour


Actually they are right.  The whole thing comes down to perspective.  Of
course the math is a heck of a lot easier if you simply consider the sun the
center around which the solar system revolves.  In this case as many others,
why not go with the simplest answer that gives the most correct predictions?
Why complicate the issue by insisting that a certain perspective has to be
maintained?  Groan, no doubt they will call it proof.  Of course the reverse
is just as true.  No one can prove that the sun revolves around the Earth,
but that is a minor detail.

Debbie

-----Original Message-----
From: Jim Lawrence [mailto:accessd at shaw.ca] 
Sent: Friday, June 10, 2005 1:00 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] Friday humour


Hi All:

When first read I thought this was a joke... but I think it is for real;
which of course would make it more hilarious. Check this out:
http://www.catholicintl.com/epologetics/articles/science/geochallenge.htm

Jim 

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From drboz at pacbell.net  Fri Jun 10 13:46:26 2005
From: drboz at pacbell.net (Don Bozarth)
Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2005 11:46:26 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Friday humour
References: <7B1961ED924D1A459E378C9B1BB22B4C0492C988@natexch.jenkens.com>
Message-ID: <000701c56dec$b51d4170$6401a8c0@don>

Occams razor applies... the simplest solution is often the best.  Those
monster equations would be unstable on their best days... since the center
of gravity of the total mass of that "mess" would be changing moment to
moment.

Than anyone seriously doubts the sun centric solar system simply astounds
me.  There are more than sufficient observable effects to support that
theory.  There are none... zero.. zip... nada observations that support the
earth centric model.

Don B.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Elam, Debbie" <DElam at jenkens.com>
To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'"
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Friday, June 10, 2005 11:39 AM
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Friday humour


> No it does not throw it out the window, it just makes the lovely and
simple
> orbital mechanics equations into monster equations that take a super
> computer to calculate with any proficiency.  Of course those other planets
> just orbit around the sun while the whole mess orbits around the Earth
;-).
> That was the real reason it became obvious that the best method of
> calculation was to put the sun in the center of the system.  The whole
mess
> with the rings was to account for planetary movements.  It is a little
like
> the headaches caused when you try to take the Earth's total motion into
> account when compared to the motion of another star in the milky way
galaxy
> which is all rotating around a cluster of stars in the galaxy center.
Much
> more pleasant to break it into chunks and consider the solar system a
single
> unit when talking about motion with respect to the galaxy.
>
> Debbie
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Don Bozarth [mailto:drboz at pacbell.net]
> Sent: Friday, June 10, 2005 1:25 PM
> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] Friday humour
>
>
> Well, if the solar system is Earth centered, a lot of the math dealing
with
> planetary motion goes right out the window... not to mention that little
> sniggle called gravity.  The math of orbital mechanics suddenly
disappears.
> Were all that math wrong, we could never have made it to the Moon, Venus,
> Mars, Jupiter, Saturn, and Uranus those places manmade satellites have
> visited.
>
> Don B.
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Elam, Debbie" <DElam at jenkens.com>
> To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'"
> <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
> Sent: Friday, June 10, 2005 11:14 AM
> Subject: RE: [AccessD] Friday humour
>
>
> > Actually they are right.  The whole thing comes down to perspective.  Of
> > course the math is a heck of a lot easier if you simply consider the sun
> the
> > center around which the solar system revolves.  In this case as many
> others,
> > why not go with the simplest answer that gives the most correct
> predictions?
> > Why complicate the issue by insisting that a certain perspective has to
be
> > maintained?  Groan, no doubt they will call it proof.  Of course the
> reverse
> > is just as true.  No one can prove that the sun revolves around the
Earth,
> > but that is a minor detail.
> >
> > Debbie
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Jim Lawrence [mailto:accessd at shaw.ca]
> > Sent: Friday, June 10, 2005 1:00 PM
> > To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
> > Subject: [AccessD] Friday humour
> >
> >
> > Hi All:
> >
> > When first read I thought this was a joke... but I think it is for real;
> > which of course would make it more hilarious. Check this out:
> >
http://www.catholicintl.com/epologetics/articles/science/geochallenge.htm
> >
> > Jim
> >
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From Lambert.Heenan at AIG.com  Fri Jun 10 13:49:04 2005
From: Lambert.Heenan at AIG.com (Heenan, Lambert)
Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2005 14:49:04 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Friday humour
Message-ID: <1D7828CDB8350747AFE9D69E0E90DA1F1176C2EC@xlivmbx21.aig.com>

Anyone care to tell us how the Earth Centric types explain stellar parallax?
Or do they simply deny its existence as their various 'good books' refer to
the 'fixed stars'?


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Sent: Friday, June 10, 2005 2:39 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Friday humour


No it does not throw it out the window, it just makes the lovely and simple
orbital mechanics equations into monster equations that take a super
computer to calculate with any proficiency.  Of course those other planets
just orbit around the sun while the whole mess orbits around the Earth ;-).
That was the real reason it became obvious that the best method of
calculation was to put the sun in the center of the system.  The whole mess
with the rings was to account for planetary movements.  It is a little like
the headaches caused when you try to take the Earth's total motion into
account when compared to the motion of another star in the milky way galaxy
which is all rotating around a cluster of stars in the galaxy center.  Much
more pleasant to break it into chunks and consider the solar system a single
unit when talking about motion with respect to the galaxy.

Debbie

-----Original Message-----
From: Don Bozarth [mailto:drboz at pacbell.net] 
Sent: Friday, June 10, 2005 1:25 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Friday humour


Well, if the solar system is Earth centered, a lot of the math dealing with
planetary motion goes right out the window... not to mention that little
sniggle called gravity.  The math of orbital mechanics suddenly disappears.
Were all that math wrong, we could never have made it to the Moon, Venus,
Mars, Jupiter, Saturn, and Uranus those places manmade satellites have
visited.

Don B.

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To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'"
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Sent: Friday, June 10, 2005 11:14 AM
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Friday humour


> Actually they are right.  The whole thing comes down to perspective.  
> Of course the math is a heck of a lot easier if you simply consider 
> the sun
the
> center around which the solar system revolves.  In this case as many
others,
> why not go with the simplest answer that gives the most correct
predictions?
> Why complicate the issue by insisting that a certain perspective has 
> to be maintained?  Groan, no doubt they will call it proof.  Of course 
> the
reverse
> is just as true.  No one can prove that the sun revolves around the 
> Earth, but that is a minor detail.
>
> Debbie
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jim Lawrence [mailto:accessd at shaw.ca]
> Sent: Friday, June 10, 2005 1:00 PM
> To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
> Subject: [AccessD] Friday humour
>
>
> Hi All:
>
> When first read I thought this was a joke... but I think it is for 
> real; which of course would make it more hilarious. Check this out: 
> http://www.catholicintl.com/epologetics/articles/science/geochallenge.
> htm
>
> Jim
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From accessd at shaw.ca  Fri Jun 10 13:50:31 2005
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2005 11:50:31 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Friday humour
In-Reply-To: <E61FC1D4B1918244905B113C680BEA86873A90@infoserver01.infostat.local>
Message-ID: <0IHV00J7JTO472@l-daemon>

On that subject, an email arrived with this link:

http://www.boreme.com/boreme/funny-2005/bush-ten-years-ago.php?gobackto=home

It sometimes is nice to be one step removed.

Jim

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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Charlotte Foust
Sent: Friday, June 10, 2005 11:28 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Friday humour

No, I think they're all in public office already! ,wink>

Charlotte Foust


-----Original Message-----
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Sent: Friday, June 10, 2005 11:23 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
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What's next... a challenge from the 'Flat Earth Society'?

Jim

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Sent: Friday, June 10, 2005 11:15 AM
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Subject: RE: [AccessD] Friday humour

Actually they are right.  The whole thing comes down to perspective.  Of
course the math is a heck of a lot easier if you simply consider the sun
the center around which the solar system revolves.  In this case as many
others, why not go with the simplest answer that gives the most correct
predictions? Why complicate the issue by insisting that a certain
perspective has to be maintained?  Groan, no doubt they will call it
proof.  Of course the reverse is just as true.  No one can prove that
the sun revolves around the Earth, but that is a minor detail.

Debbie

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Sent: Friday, June 10, 2005 1:00 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] Friday humour


Hi All:

When first read I thought this was a joke... but I think it is for real;
which of course would make it more hilarious. Check this out:
http://www.catholicintl.com/epologetics/articles/science/geochallenge.ht
m

Jim 

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From DElam at jenkens.com  Fri Jun 10 13:52:00 2005
From: DElam at jenkens.com (Elam, Debbie)
Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2005 13:52:00 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Friday humour
Message-ID: <7B1961ED924D1A459E378C9B1BB22B4C0492C98A@natexch.jenkens.com>

Umm...yeah.  Did you read the whole thing?

Debbie

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Sent: Friday, June 10, 2005 1:46 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Friday humour


Occams razor applies... the simplest solution is often the best.  Those
monster equations would be unstable on their best days... since the center
of gravity of the total mass of that "mess" would be changing moment to
moment.

Than anyone seriously doubts the sun centric solar system simply astounds
me.  There are more than sufficient observable effects to support that
theory.  There are none... zero.. zip... nada observations that support the
earth centric model.

Don B.

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To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'"
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Sent: Friday, June 10, 2005 11:39 AM
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Friday humour


> No it does not throw it out the window, it just makes the lovely and
simple
> orbital mechanics equations into monster equations that take a super
> computer to calculate with any proficiency.  Of course those other planets
> just orbit around the sun while the whole mess orbits around the Earth
;-).
> That was the real reason it became obvious that the best method of
> calculation was to put the sun in the center of the system.  The whole
mess
> with the rings was to account for planetary movements.  It is a little
like
> the headaches caused when you try to take the Earth's total motion into
> account when compared to the motion of another star in the milky way
galaxy
> which is all rotating around a cluster of stars in the galaxy center.
Much
> more pleasant to break it into chunks and consider the solar system a
single
> unit when talking about motion with respect to the galaxy.
>
> Debbie
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Don Bozarth [mailto:drboz at pacbell.net]
> Sent: Friday, June 10, 2005 1:25 PM
> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] Friday humour
>
>
> Well, if the solar system is Earth centered, a lot of the math dealing
with
> planetary motion goes right out the window... not to mention that little
> sniggle called gravity.  The math of orbital mechanics suddenly
disappears.
> Were all that math wrong, we could never have made it to the Moon, Venus,
> Mars, Jupiter, Saturn, and Uranus those places manmade satellites have
> visited.
>
> Don B.
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Elam, Debbie" <DElam at jenkens.com>
> To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'"
> <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
> Sent: Friday, June 10, 2005 11:14 AM
> Subject: RE: [AccessD] Friday humour
>
>
> > Actually they are right.  The whole thing comes down to perspective.  Of
> > course the math is a heck of a lot easier if you simply consider the sun
> the
> > center around which the solar system revolves.  In this case as many
> others,
> > why not go with the simplest answer that gives the most correct
> predictions?
> > Why complicate the issue by insisting that a certain perspective has to
be
> > maintained?  Groan, no doubt they will call it proof.  Of course the
> reverse
> > is just as true.  No one can prove that the sun revolves around the
Earth,
> > but that is a minor detail.
> >
> > Debbie
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Jim Lawrence [mailto:accessd at shaw.ca]
> > Sent: Friday, June 10, 2005 1:00 PM
> > To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
> > Subject: [AccessD] Friday humour
> >
> >
> > Hi All:
> >
> > When first read I thought this was a joke... but I think it is for real;
> > which of course would make it more hilarious. Check this out:
> >
http://www.catholicintl.com/epologetics/articles/science/geochallenge.htm
> >
> > Jim
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From accessd at shaw.ca  Fri Jun 10 13:54:54 2005
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2005 11:54:54 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Friday humour
In-Reply-To: <1D7828CDB8350747AFE9D69E0E90DA1F1176C2EC@xlivmbx21.aig.com>
Message-ID: <0IHV00JAJTVF5E@l-daemon>

As Creationists have established that it is not necessary to prove your
theory it is only necessary to add doubt to the alternative theory.

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Heenan, Lambert
Sent: Friday, June 10, 2005 11:49 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Friday humour

Anyone care to tell us how the Earth Centric types explain stellar parallax?
Or do they simply deny its existence as their various 'good books' refer to
the 'fixed stars'?


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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Elam, Debbie
Sent: Friday, June 10, 2005 2:39 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Friday humour


No it does not throw it out the window, it just makes the lovely and simple
orbital mechanics equations into monster equations that take a super
computer to calculate with any proficiency.  Of course those other planets
just orbit around the sun while the whole mess orbits around the Earth ;-).
That was the real reason it became obvious that the best method of
calculation was to put the sun in the center of the system.  The whole mess
with the rings was to account for planetary movements.  It is a little like
the headaches caused when you try to take the Earth's total motion into
account when compared to the motion of another star in the milky way galaxy
which is all rotating around a cluster of stars in the galaxy center.  Much
more pleasant to break it into chunks and consider the solar system a single
unit when talking about motion with respect to the galaxy.

Debbie

-----Original Message-----
From: Don Bozarth [mailto:drboz at pacbell.net] 
Sent: Friday, June 10, 2005 1:25 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Friday humour


Well, if the solar system is Earth centered, a lot of the math dealing with
planetary motion goes right out the window... not to mention that little
sniggle called gravity.  The math of orbital mechanics suddenly disappears.
Were all that math wrong, we could never have made it to the Moon, Venus,
Mars, Jupiter, Saturn, and Uranus those places manmade satellites have
visited.

Don B.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Elam, Debbie" <DElam at jenkens.com>
To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'"
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Friday, June 10, 2005 11:14 AM
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Friday humour


> Actually they are right.  The whole thing comes down to perspective.  
> Of course the math is a heck of a lot easier if you simply consider 
> the sun
the
> center around which the solar system revolves.  In this case as many
others,
> why not go with the simplest answer that gives the most correct
predictions?
> Why complicate the issue by insisting that a certain perspective has 
> to be maintained?  Groan, no doubt they will call it proof.  Of course 
> the
reverse
> is just as true.  No one can prove that the sun revolves around the 
> Earth, but that is a minor detail.
>
> Debbie
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jim Lawrence [mailto:accessd at shaw.ca]
> Sent: Friday, June 10, 2005 1:00 PM
> To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
> Subject: [AccessD] Friday humour
>
>
> Hi All:
>
> When first read I thought this was a joke... but I think it is for 
> real; which of course would make it more hilarious. Check this out: 
> http://www.catholicintl.com/epologetics/articles/science/geochallenge.
> htm
>
> Jim
>
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From Lambert.Heenan at AIG.com  Fri Jun 10 13:55:51 2005
From: Lambert.Heenan at AIG.com (Heenan, Lambert)
Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2005 14:55:51 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Friday humour
Message-ID: <1D7828CDB8350747AFE9D69E0E90DA1F1176C2F5@xlivmbx21.aig.com>

Golly no!  I would seriously doubt if anyone on this group supports these
dogma befuddled notions!

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[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Elam, Debbie
Sent: Friday, June 10, 2005 2:46 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Friday humour


Are any of you under the impression that I support this garbage?  They have
a point, but as I pointed out it is a really ridiculous one.  If two objects
are in motion around each other it is a matter of perspective to say which
orbits the other without a point of reference they are moving against. Space
itself is fairly reference less.  It is the motion of other planets as well
that enables us to pick a gravitational center of the solar system so we can
come up with coherent math that explains it all quite nicely.

Debbie

-----Original Message-----
From: Heenan, Lambert [mailto:Lambert.Heenan at aig.com] 
Sent: Friday, June 10, 2005 1:33 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Friday humour


Though I makes me feel unclean to even think about responding to such orgs
as the CAI, I will simply state that the question / challenge not only
points out their inbuilt prejudice on the subject (as does the web site,
which states that no-one *will* be able to offer any proof), but also
reveals their utter ignorance of the theory that their behind the times
dogma wishes to deny.

The sun does not revolve around the Earth and the Earth does not revolve
around the sun. They both orbit a common center of gravity, to which all the
other planets in the solar system contribute.

If they are so damned certain that the sun orbits the Earth then why don't
they offer up their "proof"?

Furthermore, no scientific minded person would be silly enough to suggest
that any theory can be proven. The only thing you can do to a theory is
discover more data that *supports* it and its predictions, or new data that
*refutes* the theory. Once the refutation data is on hand the theory must be
abandoned, or used with the understanding that it has limits. Thus when
Einstein's explanation of the orbit of Mercury was shown to be correct *by
observation*, the previous Newtonian theory had been shown to be wrong. But
then we always knew it was wrong anyway. It's just that it took until
Einstein for someone to explain the differences between observation and
Newton's theory.

Lambert


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Sent: Friday, June 10, 2005 2:15 PM
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Actually they are right.  The whole thing comes down to perspective.  Of
course the math is a heck of a lot easier if you simply consider the sun the
center around which the solar system revolves.  In this case as many others,
why not go with the simplest answer that gives the most correct predictions?
Why complicate the issue by insisting that a certain perspective has to be
maintained?  Groan, no doubt they will call it proof.  Of course the reverse
is just as true.  No one can prove that the sun revolves around the Earth,
but that is a minor detail.

Debbie

-----Original Message-----
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Sent: Friday, June 10, 2005 1:00 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] Friday humour


Hi All:

When first read I thought this was a joke... but I think it is for real;
which of course would make it more hilarious. Check this out:
http://www.catholicintl.com/epologetics/articles/science/geochallenge.htm

Jim 

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From darsant at gmail.com  Fri Jun 10 14:01:08 2005
From: darsant at gmail.com (Josh McFarlane)
Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2005 14:01:08 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Friday humour
In-Reply-To: <0IHV00JAJTVF5E@l-daemon>
References: <1D7828CDB8350747AFE9D69E0E90DA1F1176C2EC@xlivmbx21.aig.com>
	<0IHV00JAJTVF5E@l-daemon>
Message-ID: <53c8e05a050610120128f44e52@mail.gmail.com>

On 6/10/05, Jim Lawrence <accessd at shaw.ca> wrote:
> As Creationists have established that it is not necessary to prove your
> theory it is only necessary to add doubt to the alternative theory.

Ah, but do not forget that when someone adds doubt your theory, it
does not matter, as they are wrong.<g>

-- 
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From dejpolsys at hotmail.com  Fri Jun 10 14:03:25 2005
From: dejpolsys at hotmail.com (William Hindman)
Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2005 15:03:25 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Friday humour
References: <0IHV0011IRBYPU@l-daemon>
Message-ID: <BAY103-DAV24B4F4D2511E254127A3FAEFF0@phx.gbl>

..cretins arguing with morons :)

William
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> Hi All:
>
> When first read I thought this was a joke... but I think it is for real;
> which of course would make it more hilarious. Check this out:
> http://www.catholicintl.com/epologetics/articles/science/geochallenge.htm
>
> Jim
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From DElam at jenkens.com  Fri Jun 10 14:11:01 2005
From: DElam at jenkens.com (Elam, Debbie)
Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2005 14:11:01 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Friday humour
Message-ID: <7B1961ED924D1A459E378C9B1BB22B4C0492C98B@natexch.jenkens.com>

They are comparing against one speech 10 years ago, not the best baseline
sample for a reasonable analysis.  As they pointed out they can find current
examples where he is just as articulate today.  What a hack job!

Debbie

-----Original Message-----
From: Jim Lawrence [mailto:accessd at shaw.ca] 
Sent: Friday, June 10, 2005 1:51 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Friday humour


On that subject, an email arrived with this link:

http://www.boreme.com/boreme/funny-2005/bush-ten-years-ago.php?gobackto=home

It sometimes is nice to be one step removed.

Jim

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[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Charlotte Foust
Sent: Friday, June 10, 2005 11:28 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Friday humour

No, I think they're all in public office already! ,wink>

Charlotte Foust


-----Original Message-----
From: Jim Lawrence [mailto:accessd at shaw.ca] 
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What's next... a challenge from the 'Flat Earth Society'?

Jim

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Actually they are right.  The whole thing comes down to perspective.  Of
course the math is a heck of a lot easier if you simply consider the sun
the center around which the solar system revolves.  In this case as many
others, why not go with the simplest answer that gives the most correct
predictions? Why complicate the issue by insisting that a certain
perspective has to be maintained?  Groan, no doubt they will call it
proof.  Of course the reverse is just as true.  No one can prove that
the sun revolves around the Earth, but that is a minor detail.

Debbie

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Sent: Friday, June 10, 2005 1:00 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
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Hi All:

When first read I thought this was a joke... but I think it is for real;
which of course would make it more hilarious. Check this out:
http://www.catholicintl.com/epologetics/articles/science/geochallenge.ht
m

Jim 

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From dmcafee at pacbell.net  Fri Jun 10 14:20:44 2005
From: dmcafee at pacbell.net (David Mcafee)
Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2005 12:20:44 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [AccessD] Friday humour (funny)
In-Reply-To: <7B1961ED924D1A459E378C9B1BB22B4C0492C98B@natexch.jenkens.com>
Message-ID: <20050610192044.47500.qmail@web80808.mail.yahoo.com>

A 6-year old and a 4-year old are upstairs in their
bedroom. "You know what?" says the 6-year old. "I
think it's about time we started cussing." 

The 4-year old nods his head in approval. The 6-year
old continues,
"When we go downstairs for breakfast, I'm gonna say
something with hell and you say something with ass."
The 4-year old agrees with enthusiasm.

When the mother walks into the kitchen and asks the
6-year old what he wants for breakfast, he replies,
"Aw, hell, Mom, I guess I'll have some Cheerios."

WHACK! He flies out of his chair, tumbles across the
kitchen floor, gets up, and runs upstairs crying his
eyes out, with his mother in hot pursuit, slapping his
rear with every step. His Mom locks him in his
room and shouts, "You can stay there until I let you
out!"

She then comes back downstairs, looks at the 4-year
old and asks with a stern voice, "And what do YOU want
for breakfast, young man?"

"I don't know," he blubbers, "but you can bet your fat
ass it won't be Cheerios." 



From drboz at pacbell.net  Fri Jun 10 14:23:03 2005
From: drboz at pacbell.net (Don Bozarth)
Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2005 12:23:03 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Friday humour
References: <7B1961ED924D1A459E378C9B1BB22B4C0492C98B@natexch.jenkens.com>
Message-ID: <000d01c56df1$d2c7e9f0$6401a8c0@don>

Yes, I read the whole thing.  Typical defend "the church" at all costs
rhetoric.  According to this group no scientist ever did anything right.

Don B.




From cfoust at infostatsystems.com  Fri Jun 10 15:02:58 2005
From: cfoust at infostatsystems.com (Charlotte Foust)
Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2005 13:02:58 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Friday humour
Message-ID: <E61FC1D4B1918244905B113C680BEA86873A91@infoserver01.infostat.local>

Friends,

In Woody's Lounge, we axe threads like this to avoid offending anyone,
however misinformed they might be in their beliefs.  Is there an
equivalent rule in this list?  I get very twitchy when conversations
wander into the areas of religion and politics, since they tend to
deteriorate into name calling and flames.

Charlotte Foust


-----Original Message-----
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Sent: Friday, June 10, 2005 11:49 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Friday humour


Anyone care to tell us how the Earth Centric types explain stellar
parallax? Or do they simply deny its existence as their various 'good
books' refer to the 'fixed stars'?


-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Elam, Debbie
Sent: Friday, June 10, 2005 2:39 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Friday humour


No it does not throw it out the window, it just makes the lovely and
simple orbital mechanics equations into monster equations that take a
super computer to calculate with any proficiency.  Of course those other
planets just orbit around the sun while the whole mess orbits around the
Earth ;-). That was the real reason it became obvious that the best
method of calculation was to put the sun in the center of the system.
The whole mess with the rings was to account for planetary movements.
It is a little like the headaches caused when you try to take the
Earth's total motion into account when compared to the motion of another
star in the milky way galaxy which is all rotating around a cluster of
stars in the galaxy center.  Much more pleasant to break it into chunks
and consider the solar system a single unit when talking about motion
with respect to the galaxy.

Debbie

-----Original Message-----
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Sent: Friday, June 10, 2005 1:25 PM
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Well, if the solar system is Earth centered, a lot of the math dealing
with planetary motion goes right out the window... not to mention that
little sniggle called gravity.  The math of orbital mechanics suddenly
disappears. Were all that math wrong, we could never have made it to the
Moon, Venus, Mars, Jupiter, Saturn, and Uranus those places manmade
satellites have visited.

Don B.

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To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'"
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Friday, June 10, 2005 11:14 AM
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Friday humour


> Actually they are right.  The whole thing comes down to perspective.
> Of course the math is a heck of a lot easier if you simply consider 
> the sun
the
> center around which the solar system revolves.  In this case as many
others,
> why not go with the simplest answer that gives the most correct
predictions?
> Why complicate the issue by insisting that a certain perspective has
> to be maintained?  Groan, no doubt they will call it proof.  Of course

> the
reverse
> is just as true.  No one can prove that the sun revolves around the
> Earth, but that is a minor detail.
>
> Debbie
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jim Lawrence [mailto:accessd at shaw.ca]
> Sent: Friday, June 10, 2005 1:00 PM
> To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
> Subject: [AccessD] Friday humour
>
>
> Hi All:
>
> When first read I thought this was a joke... but I think it is for
> real; which of course would make it more hilarious. Check this out: 
> http://www.catholicintl.com/epologetics/articles/science/geochallenge.
> htm
>
> Jim
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From Gustav at cactus.dk  Fri Jun 10 15:03:42 2005
From: Gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2005 22:03:42 +0200
Subject: [AccessD] Friday humour
Message-ID: <s2aa0e58.074@cactus.dk>

Hi Jim

It isn't even funny. Such a site makes me feel sick.

/gustav

>>> accessd at shaw.ca 06/10 8:00 pm >>>
Hi All:

When first read I thought this was a joke... but I think it is for
real;
which of course would make it more hilarious. Check this out:
http://www.catholicintl.com/epologetics/articles/science/geochallenge.htm


Jim 



From cfoust at infostatsystems.com  Fri Jun 10 15:05:28 2005
From: cfoust at infostatsystems.com (Charlotte Foust)
Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2005 13:05:28 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Friday humour
Message-ID: <E61FC1D4B1918244905B113C680BEA86873A92@infoserver01.infostat.local>

Sure, but you have to be demented to want to be in politics anyhow, so
they're at least half right, regardless of who the politician is. ;->

Charlotte Foust


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From: Elam, Debbie [mailto:DElam at jenkens.com] 
Sent: Friday, June 10, 2005 12:11 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Friday humour


They are comparing against one speech 10 years ago, not the best
baseline sample for a reasonable analysis.  As they pointed out they can
find current examples where he is just as articulate today.  What a hack
job!

Debbie

-----Original Message-----
From: Jim Lawrence [mailto:accessd at shaw.ca] 
Sent: Friday, June 10, 2005 1:51 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Friday humour


On that subject, an email arrived with this link:

http://www.boreme.com/boreme/funny-2005/bush-ten-years-ago.php?gobackto=
home

It sometimes is nice to be one step removed.

Jim

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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Charlotte
Foust
Sent: Friday, June 10, 2005 11:28 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Friday humour

No, I think they're all in public office already! ,wink>

Charlotte Foust


-----Original Message-----
From: Jim Lawrence [mailto:accessd at shaw.ca] 
Sent: Friday, June 10, 2005 11:23 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Friday humour


What's next... a challenge from the 'Flat Earth Society'?

Jim

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[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Elam, Debbie
Sent: Friday, June 10, 2005 11:15 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Friday humour

Actually they are right.  The whole thing comes down to perspective.  Of
course the math is a heck of a lot easier if you simply consider the sun
the center around which the solar system revolves.  In this case as many
others, why not go with the simplest answer that gives the most correct
predictions? Why complicate the issue by insisting that a certain
perspective has to be maintained?  Groan, no doubt they will call it
proof.  Of course the reverse is just as true.  No one can prove that
the sun revolves around the Earth, but that is a minor detail.

Debbie

-----Original Message-----
From: Jim Lawrence [mailto:accessd at shaw.ca] 
Sent: Friday, June 10, 2005 1:00 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] Friday humour


Hi All:

When first read I thought this was a joke... but I think it is for real;
which of course would make it more hilarious. Check this out:
http://www.catholicintl.com/epologetics/articles/science/geochallenge.ht
m

Jim 

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From DElam at jenkens.com  Fri Jun 10 15:05:23 2005
From: DElam at jenkens.com (Elam, Debbie)
Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2005 15:05:23 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Friday humour
Message-ID: <7B1961ED924D1A459E378C9B1BB22B4C0492C98D@natexch.jenkens.com>

OK, you were talking about the original article.  I thought you were
accusing me of believing what they wrote.

Debbie

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From: Don Bozarth [mailto:drboz at pacbell.net] 
Sent: Friday, June 10, 2005 2:23 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Friday humour


Yes, I read the whole thing.  Typical defend "the church" at all costs
rhetoric.  According to this group no scientist ever did anything right.

Don B.


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From Gustav at cactus.dk  Fri Jun 10 15:06:20 2005
From: Gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2005 22:06:20 +0200
Subject: [AccessD] Access on Macs
Message-ID: <s2aa0eef.075@cactus.dk>

Hi Steve

Install your app on a Windows Terminal Server or - for a few sessions
and running on a standard WinXP Pro:

http://www.thinsoftinc.com/products_winconserver_info.html 

The client for Mac is ready for download at MS:

/gustav

>>> scapistrant at symphonyinfo.com 06/09 7:11 pm >>>
I met yesterday with a prospect for our Access-based software product.
A fifth of their computers are Macs, the remainder PCs.  Based on what
I
have assumed for YEARS, I noted that it won't fly with the Mac users,
unless you buy some third party emulator, and even then I've heard
about
flaky behavior.

Yet they assured me that Macs can run all MS Office applications.  No
emulator.  Am I in the dark here?  Do Macs have a native MS Office
version?  If so, does it include Access?  And if so, can they work
seamlessly with an Access file generated from a PC, or is there some
format conversion that is required to create a Mac-enabled file?

Steve Capistrant



From cfoust at infostatsystems.com  Fri Jun 10 15:07:27 2005
From: cfoust at infostatsystems.com (Charlotte Foust)
Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2005 13:07:27 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Friday humour
Message-ID: <E61FC1D4B1918244905B113C680BEA86873A93@infoserver01.infostat.local>

Erm ... Am I wrong or was Coepernicus exonerated posthumously by the
Church?

Charlotte Foust


-----Original Message-----
From: Don Bozarth [mailto:drboz at pacbell.net] 
Sent: Friday, June 10, 2005 12:23 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Friday humour


Yes, I read the whole thing.  Typical defend "the church" at all costs
rhetoric.  According to this group no scientist ever did anything right.

Don B.


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From Gustav at cactus.dk  Fri Jun 10 15:11:03 2005
From: Gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2005 22:11:03 +0200
Subject: [AccessD] Generating a rownumber field in a query
Message-ID: <s2aa1003.076@cactus.dk>

Hi Bruce

Here's a function for this purpose:

Public Function SequentialID( _
  ByVal booReset As Boolean, _
  Optional ByVal varDummy, _
  Optional ByVal intIncrement As Integer = 1, _
  Optional ByVal lngInitialID As Long) _
  As Long
  
  ' Increments static variable lngCurrentID with intIncrement.
  ' Returns the new value of lngCurrentID.
  ' Parameter varDummy is used to force repeated calls of
  ' this function when used in a query.
  '
  ' Reset to start counting from zero incrementing by one:
  '   Call SequentialID(True)
  ' Reset to start counting from 1000:
  '   Call SequentialID(True, Null, 1, 1000)
  ' Reset to start counting from zero incrementing by 2:
  '   Call SequentialID(True, Null, 2)
  ' Reset to start counting from -2000 incrementing by -8
  ' and returning initial ID:
  '   lngID = SequentialID(True, Null, -8, -2000)
  '
  ' Retrieve the current ID:
  '   lngID = SequentialID(False)
  ' Do a count by one and retrieve the current ID:
  '   lngID = SequentialID(False, Null, 1)
  ' Do a count by one in a query and retrieve the current ID:
  '   lngID = SequentialID(False, [fldAnyField], 1)
  ' Do a count by minus two and retrieve the current ID:
  '   lngID = SequentialID(False, varAny, -2)
  '
  ' 2001-12-13. Cactus Data ApS, CPH.
  
  Static lngCurrentID As Long
  Dim intSgn          As Integer
  
  If booReset = True Then
    ' Reset ID.
    lngCurrentID = lngInitialID
  ElseIf Not intIncrement = 0 Then
    intSgn = Sgn(intIncrement)
    If intSgn * lngCurrentID < intSgn * lngInitialID Then
      ' Reset ID.
      lngCurrentID = lngInitialID
    Else
      ' Increment ID.
      lngCurrentID = lngCurrentID + intIncrement
    End If
  End If
  
  SequentialID = lngCurrentID
  
End Function

/gustav

>>> Bruce.Bruen at railcorp.nsw.gov.au 06/10 4:08 am >>>
Hi folks,
 
I want to output a sequence number as a field in a query result.
Everytime the query runs it should restart the sequence number from 1.
 
The query appends rows to a "testscript" table, every new test cycle
we
generate a new set of test scripts which is made up of all the tests
in
the previous cycle plus new tests that were added during the execution
of the last cycle.  The natural key for the output table is the cycle
number + the sequence number.
 
Cycle    Seq    Testname .....   
   1          1        blah
   1          2        blah blah
...
   2          1        blah blah
   2          2        blah blah blah
etc
 
The cycle number is input as a parameter to the append query.  But how
can I generate the sequence numbers?



From drboz at pacbell.net  Fri Jun 10 15:23:40 2005
From: drboz at pacbell.net (Don Bozarth)
Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2005 13:23:40 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Friday humour
References: <7B1961ED924D1A459E378C9B1BB22B4C0492C98D@natexch.jenkens.com>
Message-ID: <001f01c56dfa$4a4b5630$6401a8c0@don>

Gawd no!  Sorry if you had that impression it certainly wasn't my intent.

Don B.

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From: "Elam, Debbie" <DElam at jenkens.com>
To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'"
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Sent: Friday, June 10, 2005 1:05 PM
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Friday humour


> OK, you were talking about the original article.  I thought you were
> accusing me of believing what they wrote.
>
> Debbie
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Don Bozarth [mailto:drboz at pacbell.net]
> Sent: Friday, June 10, 2005 2:23 PM
> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] Friday humour
>
>
> Yes, I read the whole thing.  Typical defend "the church" at all costs
> rhetoric.  According to this group no scientist ever did anything right.
>
> Don B.
>
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From drboz at pacbell.net  Fri Jun 10 15:24:30 2005
From: drboz at pacbell.net (Don Bozarth)
Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2005 13:24:30 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Friday humour
References: <E61FC1D4B1918244905B113C680BEA86873A93@infoserver01.infostat.local>
Message-ID: <002701c56dfa$68081960$6401a8c0@don>

I belive he was... Galileo too.  Long after they had shed this mortal
coil...

Don B.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Charlotte Foust" <cfoust at infostatsystems.com>
To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving"
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Friday, June 10, 2005 1:07 PM
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Friday humour


> Erm ... Am I wrong or was Coepernicus exonerated posthumously by the
> Church?
>
> Charlotte Foust
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Don Bozarth [mailto:drboz at pacbell.net]
> Sent: Friday, June 10, 2005 12:23 PM
> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] Friday humour
>
>
> Yes, I read the whole thing.  Typical defend "the church" at all costs
> rhetoric.  According to this group no scientist ever did anything right.
>
> Don B.
>
>
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From BBarabash at TappeConstruction.com  Fri Jun 10 15:28:00 2005
From: BBarabash at TappeConstruction.com (Brett Barabash)
Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2005 15:28:00 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] RE: Friday humour
Message-ID: <100F91B31300334B89EC531C9DCB08659F77D5@tccexch01.tappeconstruction.net>

So I open up my inbox this afternoon, and I find 2 Friday "humor"
threads:

1. Science vs. Religion absurdist debate
2. "George W. Bush is so dumb" political rhetoric

Thank goodness that David McAfee tossed in an honest to goodness joke.
Offending people should be the least of your worries.  Boring them to
death is more likely.  ;-)

C'mon people, it's Friday.  Laugh a little!

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From BBarabash at TappeConstruction.com  Fri Jun 10 15:34:22 2005
From: BBarabash at TappeConstruction.com (Brett Barabash)
Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2005 15:34:22 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Friday humor, with 30% more real funny
Message-ID: <100F91B31300334B89EC531C9DCB08659F77D7@tccexch01.tappeconstruction.net>

Since I've done my share of complaining today, I need to back it up with
one of my favorites:

Analogies and Metaphors Found in School Essays, stupid but some funny:

His thoughts tumbled in his head, making and breaking alliances like
underpants in a dryer without Cling Free.

He spoke with the wisdom that can only come from experience, like a guy
who went blind because he looked at a solar eclipse without one of those
boxes with a pinhole in it and now goes around the country speaking at
high schools about the dangers of looking at a solar eclipse without one
of those boxes with a pinhole in it.

The little boat gently drifted across the pond exactly the way a bowling
ball wouldn't.

>From the attic came an unearthly howl. The whole scene had an eerie,
surreal quality, like when you're on vacation in another city and
"Jeopardy" comes on at 7:00 pm instead of 7:30.

Her hair glistened in the rain like nose hair after a sneeze.

Her eyes were like two brown circles with big black dots in the centre.

Her vocabulary was as bad as, like, whatever.

He was as tall as a six-foot-three-inch tree.

The hailstones leaped from the pavement, just like maggots when you fry
them in hot grease.

Long separated by cruel fate, the star-crossed lovers raced across the
grassy field toward each other like two freight trains, one having left
Cleveland at 6:36 p.m. travelling at 55 mph, the other from Topeka at
4:19 p.m. at a speed of 35 mph. 

The politician was gone but unnoticed, like the full stop after the Dr.
on a Dr Pepper can.

John and Mary had never met. They were like two hummingbirds who had
also never met.

The thunder was ominous sounding, much like the sound of a thin sheet of
metal being shaken backstage during the storm scene in a play. 

The red brick wall was the colour of a brick-red crayon.

He fell for her like his heart was a mob informant and she was the East
River.

Even in his last years, Grandpa had a mind like a steel trap, only one
that had been left ou
g, it had rusted shut.

The plan was simple, like my brother-in-law Phil. But unlike Phil, this
plan just might work.

The young fighter had a hungry look, the kind you get from not eating
for a while.

Her artistic sense was exquisitely refined, like someone who can tell
butter from I Can't Believe It's Not Butter.

She had a deep, throaty, genuine laugh like that sound a dog makes just
before it throws up.

It came down the stairs looking very much like something no one had ever
seen before.

The ballerina rose gracefully en pointe and extended one slender leg
behind her, like a dog at a fire hydrant.

It was an American tradition, like fathers chasing kids around with
power tools.

She was as easy as the "TV Guide" crossword.

She grew on him like she was a colony of E. coli and he was
room-temperature beef.

She walked into my office like a centipede with 98 missing legs.

It hurt - the way your tongue hurts after you accidentally staple it to
the wall.

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From Jim.Hale at FleetPride.com  Fri Jun 10 15:34:25 2005
From: Jim.Hale at FleetPride.com (Hale, Jim)
Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2005 15:34:25 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] RE: Friday humour
Message-ID: <6A6AA9DF57E4F046BDA1E273BDDB6772337652@corp-es01.fleetpride.com>

Ok, here is my contribution. This one didn't go through last week for some
reason.
Jim Hale

Classified Ads

Actually Taken From Classified Ad's In Newspapers: 

FREE YORKSHIRE TERRIER. 8 years old Hateful little dog. Bites 
---------------------------------- 
FREE PUPPIES: 1/2 Cocker Spaniel, 1/2 sneaky neighbor's dog 
----------------------------- 
FREE PUPPIES... Part German Shepherd, part stupid dog 
------------------------------ 
GERMAN SHEPHERD 85 lbs. Neutered. Speaks German. Free 
---------------------------------- 
FOUND: DIRTY WHITE DOG. Looks like a rat ... been out awhile. Better be 
reward. 
---------------------------------- 
COWS, CALVES NEVER BRED.... Also 1 gay bull for sale 
------------------------------- 
NORDIC TRACK $300 Hardly used, call Chubby 
---------------------------------- 
NICE PARACHUTE: Never opened - used once 
---------------------------------- 
JOINING NUDIST COLONY! Must sell washer and dryer $300 
---------------------------------- 
(AND THE BEST ONE) 
FOR SALE BY OWNER: Complete set of Encyclopedia Britannica. 45 volumes. 
Excellent condition. $1,000 or best offer. No longer needed. Got married 
last month. Wife knows everything. 

-----Original Message-----
From: Brett Barabash [mailto:BBarabash at tappeconstruction.com]
Sent: Friday, June 10, 2005 3:28 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: [AccessD] RE: Friday humour


So I open up my inbox this afternoon, and I find 2 Friday "humor"
threads:

1. Science vs. Religion absurdist debate
2. "George W. Bush is so dumb" political rhetoric

Thank goodness that David McAfee tossed in an honest to goodness joke.
Offending people should be the least of your worries.  Boring them to
death is more likely.  ;-)

C'mon people, it's Friday.  Laugh a little!

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From Jim.Hale at FleetPride.com  Fri Jun 10 15:47:04 2005
From: Jim.Hale at FleetPride.com (Hale, Jim)
Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2005 15:47:04 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Friday humor, with 30% more real funny
Message-ID: <6A6AA9DF57E4F046BDA1E273BDDB6772337653@corp-es01.fleetpride.com>

LOL thanks I needed that today
Jim Hale

-----Original Message-----
From: Brett Barabash [mailto:BBarabash at tappeconstruction.com]
Sent: Friday, June 10, 2005 3:34 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: [AccessD] Friday humor, with 30% more real funny


Since I've done my share of complaining today, I need to back it up with
one of my favorites:

Analogies and Metaphors Found in School Essays, stupid but some funny:

His thoughts tumbled in his head, making and breaking alliances like
underpants in a dryer without Cling Free.

He spoke with the wisdom that can only come from experience, like a guy
who went blind because he looked at a solar eclipse without one of those
boxes with a pinhole in it and now goes around the country speaking at
high schools about the dangers of looking at a solar eclipse without one
of those boxes with a pinhole in it.

The little boat gently drifted across the pond exactly the way a bowling
ball wouldn't.

>From the attic came an unearthly howl. The whole scene had an eerie,
surreal quality, like when you're on vacation in another city and
"Jeopardy" comes on at 7:00 pm instead of 7:30.

Her hair glistened in the rain like nose hair after a sneeze.

Her eyes were like two brown circles with big black dots in the centre.

Her vocabulary was as bad as, like, whatever.

He was as tall as a six-foot-three-inch tree.

The hailstones leaped from the pavement, just like maggots when you fry
them in hot grease.

Long separated by cruel fate, the star-crossed lovers raced across the
grassy field toward each other like two freight trains, one having left
Cleveland at 6:36 p.m. travelling at 55 mph, the other from Topeka at
4:19 p.m. at a speed of 35 mph. 

The politician was gone but unnoticed, like the full stop after the Dr.
on a Dr Pepper can.

John and Mary had never met. They were like two hummingbirds who had
also never met.

The thunder was ominous sounding, much like the sound of a thin sheet of
metal being shaken backstage during the storm scene in a play. 

The red brick wall was the colour of a brick-red crayon.

He fell for her like his heart was a mob informant and she was the East
River.

Even in his last years, Grandpa had a mind like a steel trap, only one
that had been left ou
g, it had rusted shut.

The plan was simple, like my brother-in-law Phil. But unlike Phil, this
plan just might work.

The young fighter had a hungry look, the kind you get from not eating
for a while.

Her artistic sense was exquisitely refined, like someone who can tell
butter from I Can't Believe It's Not Butter.

She had a deep, throaty, genuine laugh like that sound a dog makes just
before it throws up.

It came down the stairs looking very much like something no one had ever
seen before.

The ballerina rose gracefully en pointe and extended one slender leg
behind her, like a dog at a fire hydrant.

It was an American tradition, like fathers chasing kids around with
power tools.

She was as easy as the "TV Guide" crossword.

She grew on him like she was a colony of E. coli and he was
room-temperature beef.

She walked into my office like a centipede with 98 missing legs.

It hurt - the way your tongue hurts after you accidentally staple it to
the wall.

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From Drawbridge.Jack at ic.gc.ca  Fri Jun 10 15:54:30 2005
From: Drawbridge.Jack at ic.gc.ca (Drawbridge, Jack: #CIO - BPI)
Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2005 16:54:30 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Automating - IE6 - File Save As
Message-ID: <0F3AFAE449DD4A40BED8B6C4A97ABF5B0298AABB@MSG-MB3.icent.ic.gc.ca>

Have had no responses with original post. I believe it is a question of automating IE, and how to get to CommonDialog in order to do the File Save As.

IE does a fantastic job of removing relative links and downloading a clean set of files when using the File Save As webpage complete option. I do not want to do the File saves manually. There must be a means to automate this in VBA???

Any advice/help on this would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks,

jack

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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Drawbridge,
Jack: #CIO - BPI
Sent: Thursday, June 2, 2005 3:01 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: [AccessD] A2K talking to IE6 - File Save As


Looking for help/advice or sample code to open IE6 from code in A2K. Am interested in how to do a File| Save As Webpage, Complete.
We have a database of 60000 companies and want to put extracts of selected 100-500 companies (html and graphics etc) onto a CD for use with Offline Browser.

Can not figure out how to get to IE6 File | Save As.

I have some code to open a page with IE browser and save all the links on the page.

Any help would be appreciated.

TIA 

jack

'---- CODE to GET the Links from a given page ----
'---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
' Procedure : GetLinks
' DateTime  : 2005-06-02 14:19
' Author    :
' Purpose   : get all links from a named webpage URL
'---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
'
Sub GetLinks()

' ** need to set a reference to
' ** Microsoft Internet Controls

    Dim IeApp As InternetExplorer
    Dim sURL As String
    Dim IeDoc As Object
    Dim i As Long
    
   'Create new instance of IE
    Set IeApp = New InternetExplorer
    
    'May wish to make IeApp visible
    'apparently some things don't work
    'unless it's visible
    IeApp.Visible = False
    
    'define the page to open
    sURL = "www.diligens.com"
    
    'navigate to the page based on URL
    IeApp.Navigate sURL
   
    'Pause until the webpage is completely loaded
    Do
    Loop Until IeApp.ReadyState = READYSTATE_COMPLETE
    
    'Create instance of Document object
    Set IeDoc = IeApp.Document
  
    'Loop through the document's links collection.
    For i = 0 To IeDoc.links.Length - 1
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From Lambert.Heenan at AIG.com  Fri Jun 10 15:54:37 2005
From: Lambert.Heenan at AIG.com (Heenan, Lambert)
Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2005 16:54:37 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Friday humour
Message-ID: <1D7828CDB8350747AFE9D69E0E90DA1F1176C3A2@xlivmbx21.aig.com>

In Kansas they add Creationism to the school curriculum in order not to
offend one specific group of people. That doesn't make it right either.

On the whole though I agree with your comment. I especially do not like to
see politics being discussed in a software developer's group, but every rule
has its exceptions and pointing out the lunacy of the religions of this
world (not just Christina ones) is an exception for me.

Politicians can be voted out of office. Religious nuts want us to vote our
brains out of office. But of course they never say that they are willing to
give up all the benefits and comforts that the hateful world of science has
given them - like the internet where they can publish their rubbish to the
hearts content, where no paper and glue publisher would have touched it, and
the computers they use to do it with. This despite the fact that it is
heretical scientific research that made it all possible. Not one single
solitary advance in human technology has come out of the world of religion.
Stone tools, metal tools, agriculture, writing, you name it, they all came
out of human needs.

Lambert

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Charlotte Foust
Sent: Friday, June 10, 2005 4:03 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Friday humour


Friends,

In Woody's Lounge, we axe threads like this to avoid offending anyone,
however misinformed they might be in their beliefs.  Is there an equivalent
rule in this list?  I get very twitchy when conversations wander into the
areas of religion and politics, since they tend to deteriorate into name
calling and flames.

Charlotte Foust


-----Original Message-----
From: Heenan, Lambert [mailto:Lambert.Heenan at aig.com] 
Sent: Friday, June 10, 2005 11:49 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Friday humour


Anyone care to tell us how the Earth Centric types explain stellar parallax?
Or do they simply deny its existence as their various 'good books' refer to
the 'fixed stars'?


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Elam, Debbie
Sent: Friday, June 10, 2005 2:39 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Friday humour


No it does not throw it out the window, it just makes the lovely and simple
orbital mechanics equations into monster equations that take a super
computer to calculate with any proficiency.  Of course those other planets
just orbit around the sun while the whole mess orbits around the Earth ;-).
That was the real reason it became obvious that the best method of
calculation was to put the sun in the center of the system. The whole mess
with the rings was to account for planetary movements. It is a little like
the headaches caused when you try to take the Earth's total motion into
account when compared to the motion of another star in the milky way galaxy
which is all rotating around a cluster of stars in the galaxy center.  Much
more pleasant to break it into chunks and consider the solar system a single
unit when talking about motion with respect to the galaxy.

Debbie

-----Original Message-----
From: Don Bozarth [mailto:drboz at pacbell.net] 
Sent: Friday, June 10, 2005 1:25 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Friday humour


Well, if the solar system is Earth centered, a lot of the math dealing with
planetary motion goes right out the window... not to mention that little
sniggle called gravity.  The math of orbital mechanics suddenly disappears.
Were all that math wrong, we could never have made it to the Moon, Venus,
Mars, Jupiter, Saturn, and Uranus those places manmade satellites have
visited.

Don B.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Elam, Debbie" <DElam at jenkens.com>
To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'"
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Friday, June 10, 2005 11:14 AM
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Friday humour


> Actually they are right.  The whole thing comes down to perspective. 
> Of course the math is a heck of a lot easier if you simply consider 
> the sun
the
> center around which the solar system revolves.  In this case as many
others,
> why not go with the simplest answer that gives the most correct
predictions?
> Why complicate the issue by insisting that a certain perspective has 
> to be maintained?  Groan, no doubt they will call it proof.  Of course

> the
reverse
> is just as true.  No one can prove that the sun revolves around the 
> Earth, but that is a minor detail.
>
> Debbie
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jim Lawrence [mailto:accessd at shaw.ca]
> Sent: Friday, June 10, 2005 1:00 PM
> To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
> Subject: [AccessD] Friday humour
>
>
> Hi All:
>
> When first read I thought this was a joke... but I think it is for 
> real; which of course would make it more hilarious. Check this out: 
> http://www.catholicintl.com/epologetics/articles/science/geochallenge.
> htm
>
> Jim
>
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From cfoust at infostatsystems.com  Fri Jun 10 16:04:31 2005
From: cfoust at infostatsystems.com (Charlotte Foust)
Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2005 14:04:31 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Friday humour
Message-ID: <E61FC1D4B1918244905B113C680BEA86873A95@infoserver01.infostat.local>

That didn't prevent any arguments, it started more and offended more
people than it satisfied.  I am areligious and largely apolitical, so I
am only offended by a lack of common sense and basic courtesy.  I just
think it is playing with fire to discuss these topics in a public
playground where fistfights are discouraged.  <g>

Charlotte Foust


-----Original Message-----
From: Heenan, Lambert [mailto:Lambert.Heenan at aig.com] 
Sent: Friday, June 10, 2005 1:55 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Friday humour


In Kansas they add Creationism to the school curriculum in order not to
offend one specific group of people. That doesn't make it right either.

On the whole though I agree with your comment. I especially do not like
to see politics being discussed in a software developer's group, but
every rule has its exceptions and pointing out the lunacy of the
religions of this world (not just Christina ones) is an exception for
me.

Politicians can be voted out of office. Religious nuts want us to vote
our brains out of office. But of course they never say that they are
willing to give up all the benefits and comforts that the hateful world
of science has given them - like the internet where they can publish
their rubbish to the hearts content, where no paper and glue publisher
would have touched it, and the computers they use to do it with. This
despite the fact that it is heretical scientific research that made it
all possible. Not one single solitary advance in human technology has
come out of the world of religion. Stone tools, metal tools,
agriculture, writing, you name it, they all came out of human needs.

Lambert

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Charlotte
Foust
Sent: Friday, June 10, 2005 4:03 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Friday humour


Friends,

In Woody's Lounge, we axe threads like this to avoid offending anyone,
however misinformed they might be in their beliefs.  Is there an
equivalent rule in this list?  I get very twitchy when conversations
wander into the areas of religion and politics, since they tend to
deteriorate into name calling and flames.

Charlotte Foust


-----Original Message-----
From: Heenan, Lambert [mailto:Lambert.Heenan at aig.com] 
Sent: Friday, June 10, 2005 11:49 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Friday humour


Anyone care to tell us how the Earth Centric types explain stellar
parallax? Or do they simply deny its existence as their various 'good
books' refer to the 'fixed stars'?


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Elam, Debbie
Sent: Friday, June 10, 2005 2:39 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Friday humour


No it does not throw it out the window, it just makes the lovely and
simple orbital mechanics equations into monster equations that take a
super computer to calculate with any proficiency.  Of course those other
planets just orbit around the sun while the whole mess orbits around the
Earth ;-). That was the real reason it became obvious that the best
method of calculation was to put the sun in the center of the system.
The whole mess with the rings was to account for planetary movements. It
is a little like the headaches caused when you try to take the Earth's
total motion into account when compared to the motion of another star in
the milky way galaxy which is all rotating around a cluster of stars in
the galaxy center.  Much more pleasant to break it into chunks and
consider the solar system a single unit when talking about motion with
respect to the galaxy.

Debbie

-----Original Message-----
From: Don Bozarth [mailto:drboz at pacbell.net] 
Sent: Friday, June 10, 2005 1:25 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Friday humour


Well, if the solar system is Earth centered, a lot of the math dealing
with planetary motion goes right out the window... not to mention that
little sniggle called gravity.  The math of orbital mechanics suddenly
disappears. Were all that math wrong, we could never have made it to the
Moon, Venus, Mars, Jupiter, Saturn, and Uranus those places manmade
satellites have visited.

Don B.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Elam, Debbie" <DElam at jenkens.com>
To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'"
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Friday, June 10, 2005 11:14 AM
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Friday humour


> Actually they are right.  The whole thing comes down to perspective.
> Of course the math is a heck of a lot easier if you simply consider 
> the sun
the
> center around which the solar system revolves.  In this case as many
others,
> why not go with the simplest answer that gives the most correct
predictions?
> Why complicate the issue by insisting that a certain perspective has
> to be maintained?  Groan, no doubt they will call it proof.  Of course

> the
reverse
> is just as true.  No one can prove that the sun revolves around the
> Earth, but that is a minor detail.
>
> Debbie
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jim Lawrence [mailto:accessd at shaw.ca]
> Sent: Friday, June 10, 2005 1:00 PM
> To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
> Subject: [AccessD] Friday humour
>
>
> Hi All:
>
> When first read I thought this was a joke... but I think it is for
> real; which of course would make it more hilarious. Check this out: 
> http://www.catholicintl.com/epologetics/articles/science/geochallenge.
> htm
>
> Jim
>
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From Lambert.Heenan at AIG.com  Fri Jun 10 16:18:27 2005
From: Lambert.Heenan at AIG.com (Heenan, Lambert)
Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2005 17:18:27 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Friday humour
Message-ID: <1D7828CDB8350747AFE9D69E0E90DA1F1176C3B8@xlivmbx21.aig.com>

My last comment on this (honest!!! <vbg>)

I'm wholeheartedly atheist, but I certainly not apolitical. I believe that
everyone should be involved in the political process because politics
impacts everyone. But this is not the place for politics.

The Kansas situation may have offended more people than it satisfied, but
still the stickers are in the school books. It seems enough Kansans were
convinced that they voted in the measure, and to hell with the unbelievers.
This country is being taken over by religious
fanatics/extemists/nutters/fools (you choose) who's agenda has nothing at
all to do with the common good and everything to do with their desire for
power. Power of you, me, your dog and cat, and ultimately the rest of the
world. 

Lambert

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Charlotte Foust
Sent: Friday, June 10, 2005 5:05 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Friday humour


That didn't prevent any arguments, it started more and offended more people
than it satisfied.  I am areligious and largely apolitical, so I am only
offended by a lack of common sense and basic courtesy.  I just think it is
playing with fire to discuss these topics in a public playground where
fistfights are discouraged.  <g>

Charlotte Foust


-----Original Message-----
From: Heenan, Lambert [mailto:Lambert.Heenan at aig.com] 
Sent: Friday, June 10, 2005 1:55 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Friday humour


In Kansas they add Creationism to the school curriculum in order not to
offend one specific group of people. That doesn't make it right either.

On the whole though I agree with your comment. I especially do not like to
see politics being discussed in a software developer's group, but every rule
has its exceptions and pointing out the lunacy of the religions of this
world (not just Christina ones) is an exception for me.

Politicians can be voted out of office. Religious nuts want us to vote our
brains out of office. But of course they never say that they are willing to
give up all the benefits and comforts that the hateful world of science has
given them - like the internet where they can publish their rubbish to the
hearts content, where no paper and glue publisher would have touched it, and
the computers they use to do it with. This despite the fact that it is
heretical scientific research that made it all possible. Not one single
solitary advance in human technology has come out of the world of religion.
Stone tools, metal tools, agriculture, writing, you name it, they all came
out of human needs.

Lambert

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Charlotte Foust
Sent: Friday, June 10, 2005 4:03 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Friday humour


Friends,

In Woody's Lounge, we axe threads like this to avoid offending anyone,
however misinformed they might be in their beliefs.  Is there an equivalent
rule in this list?  I get very twitchy when conversations wander into the
areas of religion and politics, since they tend to deteriorate into name
calling and flames.

Charlotte Foust


-----Original Message-----
From: Heenan, Lambert [mailto:Lambert.Heenan at aig.com] 
Sent: Friday, June 10, 2005 11:49 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Friday humour


Anyone care to tell us how the Earth Centric types explain stellar parallax?
Or do they simply deny its existence as their various 'good books' refer to
the 'fixed stars'?


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Elam, Debbie
Sent: Friday, June 10, 2005 2:39 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Friday humour


No it does not throw it out the window, it just makes the lovely and simple
orbital mechanics equations into monster equations that take a super
computer to calculate with any proficiency.  Of course those other planets
just orbit around the sun while the whole mess orbits around the Earth ;-).
That was the real reason it became obvious that the best method of
calculation was to put the sun in the center of the system. The whole mess
with the rings was to account for planetary movements. It is a little like
the headaches caused when you try to take the Earth's total motion into
account when compared to the motion of another star in the milky way galaxy
which is all rotating around a cluster of stars in the galaxy center.  Much
more pleasant to break it into chunks and consider the solar system a single
unit when talking about motion with respect to the galaxy.

Debbie

-----Original Message-----
From: Don Bozarth [mailto:drboz at pacbell.net] 
Sent: Friday, June 10, 2005 1:25 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Friday humour


Well, if the solar system is Earth centered, a lot of the math dealing with
planetary motion goes right out the window... not to mention that little
sniggle called gravity.  The math of orbital mechanics suddenly disappears.
Were all that math wrong, we could never have made it to the Moon, Venus,
Mars, Jupiter, Saturn, and Uranus those places manmade satellites have
visited.

Don B.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Elam, Debbie" <DElam at jenkens.com>
To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'"
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Friday, June 10, 2005 11:14 AM
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Friday humour


> Actually they are right.  The whole thing comes down to perspective. 
> Of course the math is a heck of a lot easier if you simply consider 
> the sun
the
> center around which the solar system revolves.  In this case as many
others,
> why not go with the simplest answer that gives the most correct
predictions?
> Why complicate the issue by insisting that a certain perspective has 
> to be maintained?  Groan, no doubt they will call it proof.  Of course

> the
reverse
> is just as true.  No one can prove that the sun revolves around the 
> Earth, but that is a minor detail.
>
> Debbie
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jim Lawrence [mailto:accessd at shaw.ca]
> Sent: Friday, June 10, 2005 1:00 PM
> To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
> Subject: [AccessD] Friday humour
>
>
> Hi All:
>
> When first read I thought this was a joke... but I think it is for 
> real; which of course would make it more hilarious. Check this out: 
> http://www.catholicintl.com/epologetics/articles/science/geochallenge.
> htm
>
> Jim
>
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From stuart at lexacorp.com.pg  Fri Jun 10 16:45:49 2005
From: stuart at lexacorp.com.pg (Stuart McLachlan)
Date: Sat, 11 Jun 2005 07:45:49 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] Friday humour
In-Reply-To: <7B1961ED924D1A459E378C9B1BB22B4C0492C988@natexch.jenkens.com>
Message-ID: <42AA96AD.196.1B3CBA8@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>

On 10 Jun 2005 at 13:39, Elam, Debbie wrote:

> with the rings was to account for planetary movements.  It is a little like
> the headaches caused when you try to take the Earth's total motion into
> account when compared to the motion of another star in the milky way galaxy
> which is all rotating around a cluster of stars in the galaxy center.  


Just remember that you're standing on a planet that's evolving
and revolving at 900 miles an hour,
It's orbiting at 19 miles a second, so it's reckoned,
the sun that is the source of all our power.
The Sun and you and me, and all the stars that we can see,
are moving at a million miles a day,
In the outer spiral arm, at 40,000 miles an hour,
of the Galaxy we call the Milky Way.

Our Galaxy itself contains 100 billion stars,
it's 100,000 light-years side-to-side,
It bulges in the middle, 16 000 light-years thick,
but out by us it's just 3 000 light-years wide.
We're 30,000 light-years from galactic central point,
we go round every 200 million years,
And our galaxy is only one of millions of billions
in this amazing and expanding universe.

The universe itself keeps on expanding and expanding,
in all of the directions it can whizz,
As fast as it can go, at the speed of light you know,
twelve million miles a minute, and that's the fastest speed there is.
So remember, when you're feeling very small and insecure,
how amazingly unlikely is your birth,
Pray that there's intelligent life somewhere up in space,
because there's bugger all down here on Earth.

The Galaxy Song
Composers: Eric Idle & John Du Prez
Author: Eric Idle 
>From the movie "Monty Python's Meaning of Life"-- 
Stuart




From dejpolsys at hotmail.com  Fri Jun 10 16:49:53 2005
From: dejpolsys at hotmail.com (William Hindman)
Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2005 17:49:53 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] MODERATOR NEEDED NOW!!! /was Friday humour
References: <1D7828CDB8350747AFE9D69E0E90DA1F1176C3B8@xlivmbx21.aig.com>
Message-ID: <BAY103-DAV66F3752853C6FDC089A31AEFF0@phx.gbl>

..can somebody with a smattering of common sense please delete this.

..OT is the place for this ...not AccessD.

William

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Heenan, Lambert" <Lambert.Heenan at aig.com>
To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'" 
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Friday, June 10, 2005 5:18 PM
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Friday humour


> My last comment on this (honest!!! <vbg>)
>
> I'm wholeheartedly atheist, but I certainly not apolitical. I believe that
> everyone should be involved in the political process because politics
> impacts everyone. But this is not the place for politics.
>
> The Kansas situation may have offended more people than it satisfied, but
> still the stickers are in the school books. It seems enough Kansans were
> convinced that they voted in the measure, and to hell with the 
> unbelievers.
> This country is being taken over by religious
> fanatics/extemists/nutters/fools (you choose) who's agenda has nothing at
> all to do with the common good and everything to do with their desire for
> power. Power of you, me, your dog and cat, and ultimately the rest of the
> world.
>
> Lambert
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Charlotte Foust
> Sent: Friday, June 10, 2005 5:05 PM
> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> Subject: RE: [AccessD] Friday humour
>
>
> That didn't prevent any arguments, it started more and offended more 
> people
> than it satisfied.  I am areligious and largely apolitical, so I am only
> offended by a lack of common sense and basic courtesy.  I just think it is
> playing with fire to discuss these topics in a public playground where
> fistfights are discouraged.  <g>
>
> Charlotte Foust
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Heenan, Lambert [mailto:Lambert.Heenan at aig.com]
> Sent: Friday, June 10, 2005 1:55 PM
> To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
> Subject: RE: [AccessD] Friday humour
>
>
> In Kansas they add Creationism to the school curriculum in order not to
> offend one specific group of people. That doesn't make it right either.
>
> On the whole though I agree with your comment. I especially do not like to
> see politics being discussed in a software developer's group, but every 
> rule
> has its exceptions and pointing out the lunacy of the religions of this
> world (not just Christina ones) is an exception for me.
>
> Politicians can be voted out of office. Religious nuts want us to vote our
> brains out of office. But of course they never say that they are willing 
> to
> give up all the benefits and comforts that the hateful world of science 
> has
> given them - like the internet where they can publish their rubbish to the
> hearts content, where no paper and glue publisher would have touched it, 
> and
> the computers they use to do it with. This despite the fact that it is
> heretical scientific research that made it all possible. Not one single
> solitary advance in human technology has come out of the world of 
> religion.
> Stone tools, metal tools, agriculture, writing, you name it, they all came
> out of human needs.
>
> Lambert
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Charlotte Foust
> Sent: Friday, June 10, 2005 4:03 PM
> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> Subject: RE: [AccessD] Friday humour
>
>
> Friends,
>
> In Woody's Lounge, we axe threads like this to avoid offending anyone,
> however misinformed they might be in their beliefs.  Is there an 
> equivalent
> rule in this list?  I get very twitchy when conversations wander into the
> areas of religion and politics, since they tend to deteriorate into name
> calling and flames.
>
> Charlotte Foust
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Heenan, Lambert [mailto:Lambert.Heenan at aig.com]
> Sent: Friday, June 10, 2005 11:49 AM
> To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
> Subject: RE: [AccessD] Friday humour
>
>
> Anyone care to tell us how the Earth Centric types explain stellar 
> parallax?
> Or do they simply deny its existence as their various 'good books' refer 
> to
> the 'fixed stars'?
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Elam, Debbie
> Sent: Friday, June 10, 2005 2:39 PM
> To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
> Subject: RE: [AccessD] Friday humour
>
>
> No it does not throw it out the window, it just makes the lovely and 
> simple
> orbital mechanics equations into monster equations that take a super
> computer to calculate with any proficiency.  Of course those other planets
> just orbit around the sun while the whole mess orbits around the Earth 
> ;-).
> That was the real reason it became obvious that the best method of
> calculation was to put the sun in the center of the system. The whole mess
> with the rings was to account for planetary movements. It is a little like
> the headaches caused when you try to take the Earth's total motion into
> account when compared to the motion of another star in the milky way 
> galaxy
> which is all rotating around a cluster of stars in the galaxy center. 
> Much
> more pleasant to break it into chunks and consider the solar system a 
> single
> unit when talking about motion with respect to the galaxy.
>
> Debbie
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Don Bozarth [mailto:drboz at pacbell.net]
> Sent: Friday, June 10, 2005 1:25 PM
> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] Friday humour
>
>
> Well, if the solar system is Earth centered, a lot of the math dealing 
> with
> planetary motion goes right out the window... not to mention that little
> sniggle called gravity.  The math of orbital mechanics suddenly 
> disappears.
> Were all that math wrong, we could never have made it to the Moon, Venus,
> Mars, Jupiter, Saturn, and Uranus those places manmade satellites have
> visited.
>
> Don B.
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Elam, Debbie" <DElam at jenkens.com>
> To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'"
> <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
> Sent: Friday, June 10, 2005 11:14 AM
> Subject: RE: [AccessD] Friday humour
>
>
>> Actually they are right.  The whole thing comes down to perspective.
>> Of course the math is a heck of a lot easier if you simply consider
>> the sun
> the
>> center around which the solar system revolves.  In this case as many
> others,
>> why not go with the simplest answer that gives the most correct
> predictions?
>> Why complicate the issue by insisting that a certain perspective has
>> to be maintained?  Groan, no doubt they will call it proof.  Of course
>
>> the
> reverse
>> is just as true.  No one can prove that the sun revolves around the
>> Earth, but that is a minor detail.
>>
>> Debbie
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Jim Lawrence [mailto:accessd at shaw.ca]
>> Sent: Friday, June 10, 2005 1:00 PM
>> To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
>> Subject: [AccessD] Friday humour
>>
>>
>> Hi All:
>>
>> When first read I thought this was a joke... but I think it is for
>> real; which of course would make it more hilarious. Check this out:
>> http://www.catholicintl.com/epologetics/articles/science/geochallenge.
>> htm
>>
>> Jim
>>
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From dejpolsys at hotmail.com  Fri Jun 10 16:53:11 2005
From: dejpolsys at hotmail.com (William Hindman)
Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2005 17:53:11 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Automating - IE6 - File Save As
References: <0F3AFAE449DD4A40BED8B6C4A97ABF5B0298AABB@MSG-MB3.icent.ic.gc.ca>
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http://www.vbaexpress.com/forum/archive/index.php?t-863.html
..hth

William

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Drawbridge, Jack: #CIO - BPI" <Drawbridge.Jack at ic.gc.ca>
To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving" 
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Friday, June 10, 2005 4:54 PM
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Automating - IE6 - File Save As


> Have had no responses with original post. I believe it is a question of 
> automating IE, and how to get to CommonDialog in order to do the File Save 
> As.
>
> IE does a fantastic job of removing relative links and downloading a clean 
> set of files when using the File Save As webpage complete option. I do not 
> want to do the File saves manually. There must be a means to automate this 
> in VBA???
>
> Any advice/help on this would be greatly appreciated.
>
> Thanks,
>
> jack
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Drawbridge,
> Jack: #CIO - BPI
> Sent: Thursday, June 2, 2005 3:01 PM
> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> Subject: [AccessD] A2K talking to IE6 - File Save As
>
>
> Looking for help/advice or sample code to open IE6 from code in A2K. Am 
> interested in how to do a File| Save As Webpage, Complete.
> We have a database of 60000 companies and want to put extracts of selected 
> 100-500 companies (html and graphics etc) onto a CD for use with Offline 
> Browser.
>
> Can not figure out how to get to IE6 File | Save As.
>
> I have some code to open a page with IE browser and save all the links on 
> the page.
>
> Any help would be appreciated.
>
> TIA
>
> jack
>
> '---- CODE to GET the Links from a given page ----
> '---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> ' Procedure : GetLinks
> ' DateTime  : 2005-06-02 14:19
> ' Author    :
> ' Purpose   : get all links from a named webpage URL
> '---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> '
> Sub GetLinks()
>
> ' ** need to set a reference to
> ' ** Microsoft Internet Controls
>
>    Dim IeApp As InternetExplorer
>    Dim sURL As String
>    Dim IeDoc As Object
>    Dim i As Long
>
>   'Create new instance of IE
>    Set IeApp = New InternetExplorer
>
>    'May wish to make IeApp visible
>    'apparently some things don't work
>    'unless it's visible
>    IeApp.Visible = False
>
>    'define the page to open
>    sURL = "www.diligens.com"
>
>    'navigate to the page based on URL
>    IeApp.Navigate sURL
>
>    'Pause until the webpage is completely loaded
>    Do
>    Loop Until IeApp.ReadyState = READYSTATE_COMPLETE
>
>    'Create instance of Document object
>    Set IeDoc = IeApp.Document
>
>    'Loop through the document's links collection.
>    For i = 0 To IeDoc.links.Length - 1
>        Debug.Print IeDoc.links(i).href
>    Next i
>
>    'Clean up
>    Set IeApp = Nothing
>    Set IeDoc = Nothing
> End Sub
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From ssharkins at bellsouth.net  Fri Jun 10 16:54:05 2005
From: ssharkins at bellsouth.net (Susan Harkins)
Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2005 17:54:05 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] MODERATOR NEEDED NOW!!! /was Friday humour
In-Reply-To: <BAY103-DAV66F3752853C6FDC089A31AEFF0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <20050610215409.GVS4468.ibm61aec.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>

If you need a second, I'll second that, and third it, and fourth it...
<slap> <breathe>

Frankly, Lambert was rather tart, even by OT standards! ;)  

Susan H. 

..can somebody with a smattering of common sense please delete this.

..OT is the place for this ...not AccessD.




From dejpolsys at hotmail.com  Fri Jun 10 17:03:44 2005
From: dejpolsys at hotmail.com (William Hindman)
Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2005 18:03:44 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] MODERATOR NEEDED NOW!!! /was Friday humour
References: <20050610215409.GVS4468.ibm61aec.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>
Message-ID: <BAY103-DAV1835A8699980F9CB9A8D54AEFF0@phx.gbl>

..OT has standards? :)

William

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Susan Harkins" <ssharkins at bellsouth.net>
To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'" 
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Friday, June 10, 2005 5:54 PM
Subject: RE: [AccessD] MODERATOR NEEDED NOW!!! /was Friday humour


> If you need a second, I'll second that, and third it, and fourth it...
> <slap> <breathe>
>
> Frankly, Lambert was rather tart, even by OT standards! ;)
>
> Susan H.
>
> ..can somebody with a smattering of common sense please delete this.
>
> ..OT is the place for this ...not AccessD.
>
>
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From dejpolsys at hotmail.com  Fri Jun 10 17:06:41 2005
From: dejpolsys at hotmail.com (William Hindman)
Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2005 18:06:41 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Automating - IE6 - File Save As
References: <0F3AFAE449DD4A40BED8B6C4A97ABF5B0298AABB@MSG-MB3.icent.ic.gc.ca>
	<BAY103-DAV173D5C17FEB849A9E1D8C8AEFF0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <BAY103-DAV1333A989BE02B5AE6D96B5AEFF0@phx.gbl>

..oops ...wrong link ...should have been:
http://www.vbaexpress.com/forum/archive/index.php?t-3484.html

William
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "William Hindman" <dejpolsys at hotmail.com>
To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving" 
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Friday, June 10, 2005 5:53 PM
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Automating - IE6 - File Save As


> http://www.vbaexpress.com/forum/archive/index.php?t-863.html
> ..hth
>
> William
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Drawbridge, Jack: #CIO - BPI" <Drawbridge.Jack at ic.gc.ca>
> To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving" 
> <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
> Sent: Friday, June 10, 2005 4:54 PM
> Subject: RE: [AccessD] Automating - IE6 - File Save As
>
>
>> Have had no responses with original post. I believe it is a question of 
>> automating IE, and how to get to CommonDialog in order to do the File 
>> Save As.
>>
>> IE does a fantastic job of removing relative links and downloading a 
>> clean set of files when using the File Save As webpage complete option. I 
>> do not want to do the File saves manually. There must be a means to 
>> automate this in VBA???
>>
>> Any advice/help on this would be greatly appreciated.
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> jack
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Drawbridge,
>> Jack: #CIO - BPI
>> Sent: Thursday, June 2, 2005 3:01 PM
>> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
>> Subject: [AccessD] A2K talking to IE6 - File Save As
>>
>>
>> Looking for help/advice or sample code to open IE6 from code in A2K. Am 
>> interested in how to do a File| Save As Webpage, Complete.
>> We have a database of 60000 companies and want to put extracts of 
>> selected 100-500 companies (html and graphics etc) onto a CD for use with 
>> Offline Browser.
>>
>> Can not figure out how to get to IE6 File | Save As.
>>
>> I have some code to open a page with IE browser and save all the links on 
>> the page.
>>
>> Any help would be appreciated.
>>
>> TIA
>>
>> jack
>>
>> '---- CODE to GET the Links from a given page ----
>> '---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>> ' Procedure : GetLinks
>> ' DateTime  : 2005-06-02 14:19
>> ' Author    :
>> ' Purpose   : get all links from a named webpage URL
>> '---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>> '
>> Sub GetLinks()
>>
>> ' ** need to set a reference to
>> ' ** Microsoft Internet Controls
>>
>>    Dim IeApp As InternetExplorer
>>    Dim sURL As String
>>    Dim IeDoc As Object
>>    Dim i As Long
>>
>>   'Create new instance of IE
>>    Set IeApp = New InternetExplorer
>>
>>    'May wish to make IeApp visible
>>    'apparently some things don't work
>>    'unless it's visible
>>    IeApp.Visible = False
>>
>>    'define the page to open
>>    sURL = "www.diligens.com"
>>
>>    'navigate to the page based on URL
>>    IeApp.Navigate sURL
>>
>>    'Pause until the webpage is completely loaded
>>    Do
>>    Loop Until IeApp.ReadyState = READYSTATE_COMPLETE
>>
>>    'Create instance of Document object
>>    Set IeDoc = IeApp.Document
>>
>>    'Loop through the document's links collection.
>>    For i = 0 To IeDoc.links.Length - 1
>>        Debug.Print IeDoc.links(i).href
>>    Next i
>>
>>    'Clean up
>>    Set IeApp = Nothing
>>    Set IeDoc = Nothing
>> End Sub
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From cfoust at infostatsystems.com  Fri Jun 10 17:32:35 2005
From: cfoust at infostatsystems.com (Charlotte Foust)
Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2005 15:32:35 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Friday humour
Message-ID: <E61FC1D4B1918244905B113C680BEA86873A96@infoserver01.infostat.local>

Oh, I take politics seriously, but I can't bring myself to take
*politicians* seriously.  I think they're all crooks, which is what I
mean by "apolitical".  I don't support any of them. <g>

Charlotte Foust


-----Original Message-----
From: Heenan, Lambert [mailto:Lambert.Heenan at aig.com] 
Sent: Friday, June 10, 2005 2:18 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Friday humour


My last comment on this (honest!!! <vbg>)

I'm wholeheartedly atheist, but I certainly not apolitical. I believe
that everyone should be involved in the political process because
politics impacts everyone. But this is not the place for politics.

The Kansas situation may have offended more people than it satisfied,
but still the stickers are in the school books. It seems enough Kansans
were convinced that they voted in the measure, and to hell with the
unbelievers. This country is being taken over by religious
fanatics/extemists/nutters/fools (you choose) who's agenda has nothing
at all to do with the common good and everything to do with their desire
for power. Power of you, me, your dog and cat, and ultimately the rest
of the world. 

Lambert

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Charlotte
Foust
Sent: Friday, June 10, 2005 5:05 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Friday humour


That didn't prevent any arguments, it started more and offended more
people than it satisfied.  I am areligious and largely apolitical, so I
am only offended by a lack of common sense and basic courtesy.  I just
think it is playing with fire to discuss these topics in a public
playground where fistfights are discouraged.  <g>

Charlotte Foust


-----Original Message-----
From: Heenan, Lambert [mailto:Lambert.Heenan at aig.com] 
Sent: Friday, June 10, 2005 1:55 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Friday humour


In Kansas they add Creationism to the school curriculum in order not to
offend one specific group of people. That doesn't make it right either.

On the whole though I agree with your comment. I especially do not like
to see politics being discussed in a software developer's group, but
every rule has its exceptions and pointing out the lunacy of the
religions of this world (not just Christina ones) is an exception for
me.

Politicians can be voted out of office. Religious nuts want us to vote
our brains out of office. But of course they never say that they are
willing to give up all the benefits and comforts that the hateful world
of science has given them - like the internet where they can publish
their rubbish to the hearts content, where no paper and glue publisher
would have touched it, and the computers they use to do it with. This
despite the fact that it is heretical scientific research that made it
all possible. Not one single solitary advance in human technology has
come out of the world of religion. Stone tools, metal tools,
agriculture, writing, you name it, they all came out of human needs.

Lambert

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Charlotte
Foust
Sent: Friday, June 10, 2005 4:03 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Friday humour


Friends,

In Woody's Lounge, we axe threads like this to avoid offending anyone,
however misinformed they might be in their beliefs.  Is there an
equivalent rule in this list?  I get very twitchy when conversations
wander into the areas of religion and politics, since they tend to
deteriorate into name calling and flames.

Charlotte Foust


-----Original Message-----
From: Heenan, Lambert [mailto:Lambert.Heenan at aig.com] 
Sent: Friday, June 10, 2005 11:49 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Friday humour


Anyone care to tell us how the Earth Centric types explain stellar
parallax? Or do they simply deny its existence as their various 'good
books' refer to the 'fixed stars'?


-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Elam, Debbie
Sent: Friday, June 10, 2005 2:39 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Friday humour


No it does not throw it out the window, it just makes the lovely and
simple orbital mechanics equations into monster equations that take a
super computer to calculate with any proficiency.  Of course those other
planets just orbit around the sun while the whole mess orbits around the
Earth ;-). That was the real reason it became obvious that the best
method of calculation was to put the sun in the center of the system.
The whole mess with the rings was to account for planetary movements. It
is a little like the headaches caused when you try to take the Earth's
total motion into account when compared to the motion of another star in
the milky way galaxy which is all rotating around a cluster of stars in
the galaxy center.  Much more pleasant to break it into chunks and
consider the solar system a single unit when talking about motion with
respect to the galaxy.

Debbie

-----Original Message-----
From: Don Bozarth [mailto:drboz at pacbell.net] 
Sent: Friday, June 10, 2005 1:25 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Friday humour


Well, if the solar system is Earth centered, a lot of the math dealing
with planetary motion goes right out the window... not to mention that
little sniggle called gravity.  The math of orbital mechanics suddenly
disappears. Were all that math wrong, we could never have made it to the
Moon, Venus, Mars, Jupiter, Saturn, and Uranus those places manmade
satellites have visited.

Don B.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Elam, Debbie" <DElam at jenkens.com>
To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'"
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Friday, June 10, 2005 11:14 AM
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Friday humour


> Actually they are right.  The whole thing comes down to perspective.
> Of course the math is a heck of a lot easier if you simply consider 
> the sun
the
> center around which the solar system revolves.  In this case as many
others,
> why not go with the simplest answer that gives the most correct
predictions?
> Why complicate the issue by insisting that a certain perspective has
> to be maintained?  Groan, no doubt they will call it proof.  Of course

> the
reverse
> is just as true.  No one can prove that the sun revolves around the
> Earth, but that is a minor detail.
>
> Debbie
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jim Lawrence [mailto:accessd at shaw.ca]
> Sent: Friday, June 10, 2005 1:00 PM
> To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
> Subject: [AccessD] Friday humour
>
>
> Hi All:
>
> When first read I thought this was a joke... but I think it is for
> real; which of course would make it more hilarious. Check this out: 
> http://www.catholicintl.com/epologetics/articles/science/geochallenge.
> htm
>
> Jim
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From cfoust at infostatsystems.com  Fri Jun 10 17:36:27 2005
From: cfoust at infostatsystems.com (Charlotte Foust)
Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2005 15:36:27 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] MODERATOR NEEDED NOW!!! /was Friday humour
Message-ID: <E61FC1D4B1918244905B113C680BEA86873A98@infoserver01.infostat.local>

ROTFL

Charlotte Foust


-----Original Message-----
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Sent: Friday, June 10, 2005 3:04 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
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..OT has standards? :)

William

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Sent: Friday, June 10, 2005 5:54 PM
Subject: RE: [AccessD] MODERATOR NEEDED NOW!!! /was Friday humour


> If you need a second, I'll second that, and third it, and fourth it...

> <slap> <breathe>
>
> Frankly, Lambert was rather tart, even by OT standards! ;)
>
> Susan H.
>
> ..can somebody with a smattering of common sense please delete this.
>
> ..OT is the place for this ...not AccessD.
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From martyconnelly at shaw.ca  Fri Jun 10 17:39:37 2005
From: martyconnelly at shaw.ca (MartyConnelly)
Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2005 15:39:37 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Automating - IE6 - File Save As
References: <0F3AFAE449DD4A40BED8B6C4A97ABF5B0298AABB@MSG-MB3.icent.ic.gc.ca>
Message-ID: <42AA16A9.1060801@shaw.ca>

You maynot be able to do this for security reasons on second method.
Ran this okay from WinXP SP2, Access97, IE6.0.2900  xpsp2 patches

Here are two ways.

'This gets around security limitations
'will only save between <body> </body> tags
CreateObject("Scripting.FileSystemObject").OpenTextFile("C:\temp\myurlsaved.htm", 
2, True).Write _
   objExplorer.Document.Body.innerHTML

'or alternate method that security may clobber, saves everthing with 
fileopen box used
With objExplorer.Document
  If .queryCommandEnabled("saveAs") Then .execCommand "saveAs", False, 
"C:\temp\myurl.htm"
 End With

Anywho here is some rough test code, that works both ways.
You can throw out all the commented objdocument code at bottom.


Sub testIESave(strpassHTML As String)
'------------------
'testIESave "http://www.Viescas.com/"
Dim objExplorer As Object
Dim objDocument As Object
Dim strComputer As String

Dim strReturn As String

Set objExplorer = CreateObject("InternetExplorer.Application")

'objExplorer.navigate "about:blank"
objExplorer.navigate strpassHTML
objExplorer.Toolbar = 1 'or 0 to turnoff toolbar turned off maynot save 
all html source
objExplorer.StatusBar = 0
objExplorer.Width = 800
objExplorer.Height = 570
objExplorer.Left = 0
objExplorer.Top = 0
objExplorer.Visible = 1
'dont't need to navigate to file or http site
'just drop html string in document object
'objExplorer.Navigate "file://c:\temp\test.html"
'objExplorer.Navigate "http://www.Viescas.com/"
'objExplorer.Navigate "http://checkip.dyndns.org/"

Do While (objExplorer.Busy)
Loop
Dim webtx As String
Dim strHTML As String
'will only save between <body> </body> tags
CreateObject("Scripting.FileSystemObject").OpenTextFile("C:\temp\myurlsmall.htm", 
2, True).Write _
   objExplorer.Document.Body.innerHTML
'alternate method security may clobber saves everything
With objExplorer.Document
  If .queryCommandEnabled("saveAs") Then .execCommand "saveAs", False, 
"C:\temp\myurl.htm"
 End With
 
'Set objDocument = objExplorer.Document
'objDocument.Open
'objDocument.writeln "<html><head><title>My Continuous 
Pictures</title></head>"
'you probably don't need all this but you could throw in some css
'objDocument.writeln "<body bgcolor='red';" & _
'    " {   background-attachment: fixed; background-position: 97% 
bottom; " & _
'      "  background-image= 'url(logoBackGround.gif)';background-repeat: 
no-repeat;" & _
'       " padding: 5px;font-family='Georgia';font-size: 80%;} >"
   
'objDocument.writeln "<table width='100%'>"
'objDocument.writeln "<tr>"
'objDocument.writeln "<td width='20%'><b>Pictures</b></td>"
'objDocument.writeln "</tr>"
'objDocument.writeln "</table>"

'objDocument.writeln "<h3>Method #2:</h3><img src = ""C:\Access 
files\CandaceTripp\picture\shakes.bmp"" Width = ""150"" Height = ""75"" 
alt = ""Random Image #4"" />"

'objDocument.writeln strpassHTML
'objDocument.writeln "</body></html>"
'objDocument.Write()
'objDocument.Close
'MsgBox "finished"
Set objExplorer = Nothing
Set objDocument = Nothing

End Sub


Drawbridge, Jack: #CIO - BPI wrote:

>Have had no responses with original post. I believe it is a question of automating IE, and how to get to CommonDialog in order to do the File Save As.
>
>IE does a fantastic job of removing relative links and downloading a clean set of files when using the File Save As webpage complete option. I do not want to do the File saves manually. There must be a means to automate this in VBA???
>
>Any advice/help on this would be greatly appreciated.
>
>Thanks,
>
>jack
>
>-----Original Message-----
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>[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Drawbridge,
>Jack: #CIO - BPI
>Sent: Thursday, June 2, 2005 3:01 PM
>To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
>Subject: [AccessD] A2K talking to IE6 - File Save As
>
>
>Looking for help/advice or sample code to open IE6 from code in A2K. Am interested in how to do a File| Save As Webpage, Complete.
>We have a database of 60000 companies and want to put extracts of selected 100-500 companies (html and graphics etc) onto a CD for use with Offline Browser.
>
>Can not figure out how to get to IE6 File | Save As.
>
>I have some code to open a page with IE browser and save all the links on the page.
>
>Any help would be appreciated.
>
>TIA 
>
>jack
>
>'---- CODE to GET the Links from a given page ----
>'---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>' Procedure : GetLinks
>' DateTime  : 2005-06-02 14:19
>' Author    :
>' Purpose   : get all links from a named webpage URL
>'---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>'
>Sub GetLinks()
>
>' ** need to set a reference to
>' ** Microsoft Internet Controls
>
>    Dim IeApp As InternetExplorer
>    Dim sURL As String
>    Dim IeDoc As Object
>    Dim i As Long
>    
>   'Create new instance of IE
>    Set IeApp = New InternetExplorer
>    
>    'May wish to make IeApp visible
>    'apparently some things don't work
>    'unless it's visible
>    IeApp.Visible = False
>    
>    'define the page to open
>    sURL = "www.diligens.com"
>    
>    'navigate to the page based on URL
>    IeApp.Navigate sURL
>   
>    'Pause until the webpage is completely loaded
>    Do
>    Loop Until IeApp.ReadyState = READYSTATE_COMPLETE
>    
>    'Create instance of Document object
>    Set IeDoc = IeApp.Document
>  
>    'Loop through the document's links collection.
>    For i = 0 To IeDoc.links.Length - 1
>        Debug.Print IeDoc.links(i).href
>    Next i
>    
>    'Clean up
>    Set IeApp = Nothing
>    Set IeDoc = Nothing
>End Sub
>  
>

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Victoria, B.C.
Canada





From john at winhaven.net  Fri Jun 10 17:40:58 2005
From: john at winhaven.net (John Bartow)
Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2005 17:40:58 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Friday humour - END THIS THREAD
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Message-ID: <200506102241.j5AMewPA265944@pimout4-ext.prodigy.net>

This isn't humor either Jim, please don't abuse the Firday humor allowance
in the future.

John Bartow, President
Database Advisors, Inc.
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-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim Lawrence
Sent: Friday, June 10, 2005 1:51 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Friday humour

On that subject, an email arrived with this link:

http://www.boreme.com/boreme/funny-2005/bush-ten-years-ago.php?gobackto=home

It sometimes is nice to be one step removed.

Jim

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Charlotte Foust
Sent: Friday, June 10, 2005 11:28 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Friday humour

No, I think they're all in public office already! ,wink>

Charlotte Foust


-----Original Message-----
From: Jim Lawrence [mailto:accessd at shaw.ca]
Sent: Friday, June 10, 2005 11:23 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Friday humour


What's next... a challenge from the 'Flat Earth Society'?

Jim

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[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Elam, Debbie
Sent: Friday, June 10, 2005 11:15 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Friday humour

Actually they are right.  The whole thing comes down to perspective.  Of
course the math is a heck of a lot easier if you simply consider the sun
the center around which the solar system revolves.  In this case as many
others, why not go with the simplest answer that gives the most correct
predictions? Why complicate the issue by insisting that a certain
perspective has to be maintained?  Groan, no doubt they will call it
proof.  Of course the reverse is just as true.  No one can prove that
the sun revolves around the Earth, but that is a minor detail.

Debbie

-----Original Message-----
From: Jim Lawrence [mailto:accessd at shaw.ca] 
Sent: Friday, June 10, 2005 1:00 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] Friday humour


Hi All:

When first read I thought this was a joke... but I think it is for real;
which of course would make it more hilarious. Check this out:
http://www.catholicintl.com/epologetics/articles/science/geochallenge.ht
m

Jim 

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From john at winhaven.net  Fri Jun 10 17:40:58 2005
From: john at winhaven.net (John Bartow)
Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2005 17:40:58 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Friday humour - END THIS THREAD
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This isn't humor Jim, please don't abuse the Firday humor allowance in the
future.

John Bartow, President
Database Advisors, Inc.
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-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim Lawrence
Sent: Friday, June 10, 2005 1:00 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] Friday humour

Hi All:

When first read I thought this was a joke... but I think it is for real;
which of course would make it more hilarious. Check this out:
http://www.catholicintl.com/epologetics/articles/science/geochallenge.htm

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From bchacc at san.rr.com  Fri Jun 10 18:31:04 2005
From: bchacc at san.rr.com (Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software)
Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2005 16:31:04 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] RE: Friday humour
References: <6A6AA9DF57E4F046BDA1E273BDDB6772337652@corp-es01.fleetpride.com>
Message-ID: <034301c56e14$7962b340$6901a8c0@HAL9004>

I like: "Kittens.  Five cents or best offer."

Rocky

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To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'" 
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Sent: Friday, June 10, 2005 1:34 PM
Subject: RE: [AccessD] RE: Friday humour


> Ok, here is my contribution. This one didn't go through last week for some
> reason.
> Jim Hale
>
> Classified Ads
>
> Actually Taken From Classified Ad's In Newspapers:
>
> FREE YORKSHIRE TERRIER. 8 years old Hateful little dog. Bites
> ---------------------------------- 
> FREE PUPPIES: 1/2 Cocker Spaniel, 1/2 sneaky neighbor's dog
> ----------------------------- 
> FREE PUPPIES... Part German Shepherd, part stupid dog
> ------------------------------ 
> GERMAN SHEPHERD 85 lbs. Neutered. Speaks German. Free
> ---------------------------------- 
> FOUND: DIRTY WHITE DOG. Looks like a rat ... been out awhile. Better be
> reward.
> ---------------------------------- 
> COWS, CALVES NEVER BRED.... Also 1 gay bull for sale
> ------------------------------- 
> NORDIC TRACK $300 Hardly used, call Chubby
> ---------------------------------- 
> NICE PARACHUTE: Never opened - used once
> ---------------------------------- 
> JOINING NUDIST COLONY! Must sell washer and dryer $300
> ---------------------------------- 
> (AND THE BEST ONE)
> FOR SALE BY OWNER: Complete set of Encyclopedia Britannica. 45 volumes.
> Excellent condition. $1,000 or best offer. No longer needed. Got married
> last month. Wife knows everything.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Brett Barabash [mailto:BBarabash at tappeconstruction.com]
> Sent: Friday, June 10, 2005 3:28 PM
> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> Subject: [AccessD] RE: Friday humour
>
>
> So I open up my inbox this afternoon, and I find 2 Friday "humor"
> threads:
>
> 1. Science vs. Religion absurdist debate
> 2. "George W. Bush is so dumb" political rhetoric
>
> Thank goodness that David McAfee tossed in an honest to goodness joke.
> Offending people should be the least of your worries.  Boring them to
> death is more likely.  ;-)
>
> C'mon people, it's Friday.  Laugh a little!
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From martyconnelly at shaw.ca  Fri Jun 10 19:15:13 2005
From: martyconnelly at shaw.ca (MartyConnelly)
Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2005 17:15:13 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Friday humour
References: <E61FC1D4B1918244905B113C680BEA86873A93@infoserver01.infostat.local>
	<002701c56dfa$68081960$6401a8c0@don>
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Argggh.
Noone knows any history.
1. Copernicus died  in 1543 a week after his book "Six Books on the 
Revolutions of the Celestial Orbits"  otherwise known as "De Revolutionibis"
was finally published.
 In 1533 Albert Widmanstadt lectured before Pope Clement VII on the 
Copernican solar system. His reward consisted of a Greek codex which is 
preserved in the State library of Munich. Three years later Copernicus 
was urged by Cardinal Schonberg, then Archbishop of Capua, in a letter, 
dated at Rome, 1 November, 1536, to publish his discovery, or at least 
to have a copy made at the cardinal's expense. He was also asked to 
reform the Calendar by Pope Leo X.
 Finally Copernicus, at sixty-eight , yielded, as he writes to Paul III, 
to the entreaties of Cardinal Schonberg, of Bishop Giese of Culm, and of 
other learned men to surrender his manuscripts for publication. Bishop 
Giese charged Rheticus, as the ablest disciple of the great master, with 
the task of editing the work.
It was finally edited by Osiander who took out any possible 
objectionable theological bits, and added a preface stating it was an 
hypothesis. This was done not so much to appease the Catholic church but 
knowing the attitude of Luther and Melanchthon against the heliocentric 
system, who were running around Germany at the time.Copernicus was an 
invalid and living in Frauenburg Germany at the time.

There were 6 popes inbetween Copernicus' book and the Galileo 
inquisition and none objected to the heliocentric theory.

On the Catholic side opposition only commenced seventy-three years 
later, when it was started up by Galileo. On 5 March, 1616, the work of 
Copernicus was forbidden by the Congregation of the Index "until 
corrected", and in 1620 these corrections were indicated. Nine 
sentences, by which the heliocentric system was represented as certain, 
had to be either omitted or changed.

In 1820 Canon Settele, a Roman astronomy professor who was a priest 
tried to publish a book in which the Copernican system was treated as 
fact. At first, the censor of the press, a guy named Anfossi, wouldn't 
allow the book to be published unless Settele revised it so that it 
treated the Copernican system as merely a theory. But Settele appealed 
to Pope Pius VII, who referred the matter to the Congregation of the 
Holy Office. On August 16, 1820, it was decided that Settele could, in 
fact, treat the Copernican system as established fact, and that decision 
was approved by Pius VII.

Pope John Paul II referred to this incident in 1992 when he said that as 
far as the Church was concerned, the heliocentric debate "was closed in 
1820 with the imprimatur given to the work of Canon Settele."  This was 
an address to Pontifical Academy of  the Sciences.

I could add corrections on Galileo and all the politics involved which 
was a genuine fubar but here is Cardinal Bellarmine's response.

"I say that if a real proof be found that the sun is fixed and does not 
revolve round the earth, but the earth round the sun, then it will be 
necessary, very carefully, to proceed to the explanation of the passages 
of Scripture which appear to be contrary, and we should rather say that 
we have misunderstood these than pronounce that to be false which is 
demonstrated."

I put  Robert Sungenis in the Art Bell camp.

Don Bozarth wrote:

>I belive he was... Galileo too.  Long after they had shed this mortal
>coil...
>
>Don B.
>
>----- Original Message ----- 
>From: "Charlotte Foust" <cfoust at infostatsystems.com>
>To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving"
><accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
>Sent: Friday, June 10, 2005 1:07 PM
>Subject: RE: [AccessD] Friday humour
>
>
>  
>
>>Erm ... Am I wrong or was Coepernicus exonerated posthumously by the
>>Church?
>>
>>Charlotte Foust
>>
>>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: Don Bozarth [mailto:drboz at pacbell.net]
>>Sent: Friday, June 10, 2005 12:23 PM
>>To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
>>Subject: Re: [AccessD] Friday humour
>>
>>
>>Yes, I read the whole thing.  Typical defend "the church" at all costs
>>rhetoric.  According to this group no scientist ever did anything right.
>>
>>Don B.
>>
>>
>>    
>>
>
>
>  
>

-- 
Marty Connelly
Victoria, B.C.
Canada





From cfoust at infostatsystems.com  Fri Jun 10 19:27:31 2005
From: cfoust at infostatsystems.com (Charlotte Foust)
Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2005 17:27:31 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Friday humour
Message-ID: <E61FC1D4B1918244905B113C680BEA86873A99@infoserver01.infostat.local>

Well, since I'm convinced the earth is not the center of the solar
system and I'm much younger than Copernicus, is it really necessary for
me to avoid getting him confused with someone else who had a theory on
completely different subjects?? On a Friday??<g>

Charlotte Foust


-----Original Message-----
From: MartyConnelly [mailto:martyconnelly at shaw.ca] 
Sent: Friday, June 10, 2005 5:15 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Friday humour


Argggh.
Noone knows any history.
1. Copernicus died  in 1543 a week after his book "Six Books on the 
Revolutions of the Celestial Orbits"  otherwise known as "De
Revolutionibis" was finally published.  In 1533 Albert Widmanstadt
lectured before Pope Clement VII on the 
Copernican solar system. His reward consisted of a Greek codex which is 
preserved in the State library of Munich. Three years later Copernicus 
was urged by Cardinal Schonberg, then Archbishop of Capua, in a letter, 
dated at Rome, 1 November, 1536, to publish his discovery, or at least 
to have a copy made at the cardinal's expense. He was also asked to 
reform the Calendar by Pope Leo X.
 Finally Copernicus, at sixty-eight , yielded, as he writes to Paul III,

to the entreaties of Cardinal Schonberg, of Bishop Giese of Culm, and of

other learned men to surrender his manuscripts for publication. Bishop 
Giese charged Rheticus, as the ablest disciple of the great master, with

the task of editing the work.
It was finally edited by Osiander who took out any possible 
objectionable theological bits, and added a preface stating it was an 
hypothesis. This was done not so much to appease the Catholic church but

knowing the attitude of Luther and Melanchthon against the heliocentric 
system, who were running around Germany at the time.Copernicus was an 
invalid and living in Frauenburg Germany at the time.

There were 6 popes inbetween Copernicus' book and the Galileo 
inquisition and none objected to the heliocentric theory.

On the Catholic side opposition only commenced seventy-three years 
later, when it was started up by Galileo. On 5 March, 1616, the work of 
Copernicus was forbidden by the Congregation of the Index "until 
corrected", and in 1620 these corrections were indicated. Nine 
sentences, by which the heliocentric system was represented as certain, 
had to be either omitted or changed.

In 1820 Canon Settele, a Roman astronomy professor who was a priest 
tried to publish a book in which the Copernican system was treated as 
fact. At first, the censor of the press, a guy named Anfossi, wouldn't 
allow the book to be published unless Settele revised it so that it 
treated the Copernican system as merely a theory. But Settele appealed 
to Pope Pius VII, who referred the matter to the Congregation of the 
Holy Office. On August 16, 1820, it was decided that Settele could, in 
fact, treat the Copernican system as established fact, and that decision

was approved by Pius VII.

Pope John Paul II referred to this incident in 1992 when he said that as

far as the Church was concerned, the heliocentric debate "was closed in 
1820 with the imprimatur given to the work of Canon Settele."  This was 
an address to Pontifical Academy of  the Sciences.

I could add corrections on Galileo and all the politics involved which 
was a genuine fubar but here is Cardinal Bellarmine's response.

"I say that if a real proof be found that the sun is fixed and does not 
revolve round the earth, but the earth round the sun, then it will be 
necessary, very carefully, to proceed to the explanation of the passages

of Scripture which appear to be contrary, and we should rather say that 
we have misunderstood these than pronounce that to be false which is 
demonstrated."

I put  Robert Sungenis in the Art Bell camp.

Don Bozarth wrote:

>I belive he was... Galileo too.  Long after they had shed this mortal 
>coil...
>
>Don B.
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Charlotte Foust" <cfoust at infostatsystems.com>
>To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving"
><accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
>Sent: Friday, June 10, 2005 1:07 PM
>Subject: RE: [AccessD] Friday humour
>
>
>  
>
>>Erm ... Am I wrong or was Coepernicus exonerated posthumously by the 
>>Church?
>>
>>Charlotte Foust
>>
>>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: Don Bozarth [mailto:drboz at pacbell.net]
>>Sent: Friday, June 10, 2005 12:23 PM
>>To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
>>Subject: Re: [AccessD] Friday humour
>>
>>
>>Yes, I read the whole thing.  Typical defend "the church" at all costs

>>rhetoric.  According to this group no scientist ever did anything 
>>right.
>>
>>Don B.
>>
>>
>>    
>>
>
>
>  
>

-- 
Marty Connelly
Victoria, B.C.
Canada



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From accessd at shaw.ca  Fri Jun 10 19:30:23 2005
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2005 17:30:23 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Friday humour
In-Reply-To: <E61FC1D4B1918244905B113C680BEA86873A95@infoserver01.infostat.local>
Message-ID: <0IHW002039EKLS@l-daemon>

Hi All:

Sorry about starting this. I did not mean to stir up things... maybe just a
smile for Friday.

Jim  



From artful at rogers.com  Fri Jun 10 20:34:21 2005
From: artful at rogers.com (Arthur Fuller)
Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2005 21:34:21 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Iterate through similarlnamed columns in a recordset
In-Reply-To: <s2a2d995.014@cactus.dk>
References: <s2a2d995.014@cactus.dk>
Message-ID: <42AA3F9D.2010402@rogers.com>

You have a table like this (let's not bring up normalisation)...

PK autonumber
Size1 long
Height1 long
Weight1 long

(The last three are repeated 3 times, so their last digits are 2, 3 and 4.)

Assume the required vars are declared and filled. rs = New 
ADODB.RecordSet. etc.
I want to write a loop something like this:

For i = 1 to 4
    debug.print rs("Size"&i)
    etc.
Next

But I can't seem to get it right. I tried using eval() and various other 
approaches. Ideas?

Arthur


From dejpolsys at hotmail.com  Fri Jun 10 21:23:36 2005
From: dejpolsys at hotmail.com (William Hindman)
Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2005 22:23:36 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Friday humour
References: <0IHW002039EKLS@l-daemon>
Message-ID: <BAY103-DAV11D493F32AC15462414706AEFE0@phx.gbl>

..s'ok Jim ...likely been a smash on OT :)

William
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Jim Lawrence" <accessd at shaw.ca>
To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'" 
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Friday, June 10, 2005 8:30 PM
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Friday humour


> Hi All:
>
> Sorry about starting this. I did not mean to stir up things... maybe just 
> a
> smile for Friday.
>
> Jim
>
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From martyconnelly at shaw.ca  Fri Jun 10 22:37:03 2005
From: martyconnelly at shaw.ca (MartyConnelly)
Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2005 20:37:03 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Friday humour
References: <1D7828CDB8350747AFE9D69E0E90DA1F1176C3A2@xlivmbx21.aig.com>
Message-ID: <42AA5C5F.3050501@shaw.ca>

This debate started out by a website of some nutter catholic's attempted 
refutation of the Heliocentric theory.
I pointed out that Copernicus, you know the guy that started it all, was 
a known Cleric in religious orders
He may also have been an ordained priest as he was short listed for a 
bishopric by the King of Poland.
So much for no solitary technological advance by religious nuts or 
coming out of the world of religion.

Of course there are humorous advanced scientific technological advances 
in the US
like the following.
http://www.big-boys.com/articles/parafire.html

which brings it all back to humour ;)

Heenan, Lambert wrote:

>In Kansas they add Creationism to the school curriculum in order not to
>offend one specific group of people. That doesn't make it right either.
>
>On the whole though I agree with your comment. I especially do not like to
>see politics being discussed in a software developer's group, but every rule
>has its exceptions and pointing out the lunacy of the religions of this
>world (not just Christina ones) is an exception for me.
>
>Politicians can be voted out of office. Religious nuts want us to vote our
>brains out of office. But of course they never say that they are willing to
>give up all the benefits and comforts that the hateful world of science has
>given them - like the internet where they can publish their rubbish to the
>hearts content, where no paper and glue publisher would have touched it, and
>the computers they use to do it with. This despite the fact that it is
>heretical scientific research that made it all possible. Not one single
>solitary advance in human technology has come out of the world of religion.
>Stone tools, metal tools, agriculture, writing, you name it, they all came
>out of human needs.
>
>Lambert
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Charlotte Foust
>Sent: Friday, June 10, 2005 4:03 PM
>To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
>Subject: RE: [AccessD] Friday humour
>
>
>Friends,
>
>In Woody's Lounge, we axe threads like this to avoid offending anyone,
>however misinformed they might be in their beliefs.  Is there an equivalent
>rule in this list?  I get very twitchy when conversations wander into the
>areas of religion and politics, since they tend to deteriorate into name
>calling and flames.
>
>Charlotte Foust
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Heenan, Lambert [mailto:Lambert.Heenan at aig.com] 
>Sent: Friday, June 10, 2005 11:49 AM
>To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
>Subject: RE: [AccessD] Friday humour
>
>
>Anyone care to tell us how the Earth Centric types explain stellar parallax?
>Or do they simply deny its existence as their various 'good books' refer to
>the 'fixed stars'?
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Elam, Debbie
>Sent: Friday, June 10, 2005 2:39 PM
>To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
>Subject: RE: [AccessD] Friday humour
>
>
>No it does not throw it out the window, it just makes the lovely and simple
>orbital mechanics equations into monster equations that take a super
>computer to calculate with any proficiency.  Of course those other planets
>just orbit around the sun while the whole mess orbits around the Earth ;-).
>That was the real reason it became obvious that the best method of
>calculation was to put the sun in the center of the system. The whole mess
>with the rings was to account for planetary movements. It is a little like
>the headaches caused when you try to take the Earth's total motion into
>account when compared to the motion of another star in the milky way galaxy
>which is all rotating around a cluster of stars in the galaxy center.  Much
>more pleasant to break it into chunks and consider the solar system a single
>unit when talking about motion with respect to the galaxy.
>
>Debbie
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Don Bozarth [mailto:drboz at pacbell.net] 
>Sent: Friday, June 10, 2005 1:25 PM
>To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
>Subject: Re: [AccessD] Friday humour
>
>
>Well, if the solar system is Earth centered, a lot of the math dealing with
>planetary motion goes right out the window... not to mention that little
>sniggle called gravity.  The math of orbital mechanics suddenly disappears.
>Were all that math wrong, we could never have made it to the Moon, Venus,
>Mars, Jupiter, Saturn, and Uranus those places manmade satellites have
>visited.
>
>Don B.
>
>----- Original Message ----- 
>From: "Elam, Debbie" <DElam at jenkens.com>
>To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'"
><accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
>Sent: Friday, June 10, 2005 11:14 AM
>Subject: RE: [AccessD] Friday humour
>
>
>  
>
>>Actually they are right.  The whole thing comes down to perspective. 
>>Of course the math is a heck of a lot easier if you simply consider 
>>the sun
>>    
>>
>the
>  
>
>>center around which the solar system revolves.  In this case as many
>>    
>>
>others,
>  
>
>>why not go with the simplest answer that gives the most correct
>>    
>>
>predictions?
>  
>
>>Why complicate the issue by insisting that a certain perspective has 
>>to be maintained?  Groan, no doubt they will call it proof.  Of course
>>    
>>
>
>  
>
>>the
>>    
>>
>reverse
>  
>
>>is just as true.  No one can prove that the sun revolves around the 
>>Earth, but that is a minor detail.
>>
>>Debbie
>>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: Jim Lawrence [mailto:accessd at shaw.ca]
>>Sent: Friday, June 10, 2005 1:00 PM
>>To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
>>Subject: [AccessD] Friday humour
>>
>>
>>Hi All:
>>
>>When first read I thought this was a joke... but I think it is for 
>>real; which of course would make it more hilarious. Check this out: 
>>http://www.catholicintl.com/epologetics/articles/science/geochallenge.
>>htm
>>
>>Jim
>>
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From andy at minstersystems.co.uk  Sat Jun 11 01:35:32 2005
From: andy at minstersystems.co.uk (Andy Lacey)
Date: Sat, 11 Jun 2005 07:35:32 +0100
Subject: [AccessD] Friday humour - A MODERATOR'S VIEW
In-Reply-To: <42AA5C5F.3050501@shaw.ca>
Message-ID: <005801c56e4f$c475e6a0$c0d80651@minster33c3r25>

Gosh, I have a Friday away from the list and miss all the "fun". You lot
just can't be trusted can you?

I know JB has stepped in but just in case anyone's tempted to get up this
morning and add their 2c worth, or somethiong like this off next week, can I
just remind everyone that Friday humour is not a free pass to say any old
thing which would not be acceptable on the list any other day. It's purpose
is to offer light entertainment, not political/religious debate. Those are
not, ever, topics for this list. These subjects not only CAN cause offence,
they usually DO. And if you want offence go to OT.

For all I, or you, know there may be a hundred Catholic fundamentalists part
of this list. Opus Dei may log on to us on a daily basis. I've no idea. The
point is that if they do they are welcome on the same basis as everyone
else.

So don't just assume everyone is going to hold your views, whatever they
are, and have a good laugh at the other feller. It never works that way.

-- Andy Lacey
http://www.minstersystems.co.uk 

> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com 
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of 
> MartyConnelly
> Sent: 11 June 2005 04:37
> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] Friday humour
> 
> 
> This debate started out by a website of some nutter 
> catholic's attempted 
> refutation of the Heliocentric theory.
> I pointed out that Copernicus, you know the guy that started 
> it all, was 
> a known Cleric in religious orders
> He may also have been an ordained priest as he was short listed for a 
> bishopric by the King of Poland.
> So much for no solitary technological advance by religious nuts or 
> coming out of the world of religion.
> 
> Of course there are humorous advanced scientific 
> technological advances 
> in the US
> like the following. http://www.big-boys.com/articles/parafire.html
> 
> which brings it all back to humour ;)
> 
> Heenan, Lambert wrote:
> 
> >In Kansas they add Creationism to the school curriculum in 
> order not to 
> >offend one specific group of people. That doesn't make it 
> right either.
> >
> >On the whole though I agree with your comment. I especially 
> do not like 
> >to see politics being discussed in a software developer's group, but 
> >every rule has its exceptions and pointing out the lunacy of the 
> >religions of this world (not just Christina ones) is an 
> exception for 
> >me.
> >
> >Politicians can be voted out of office. Religious nuts want 
> us to vote 
> >our brains out of office. But of course they never say that they are 
> >willing to give up all the benefits and comforts that the 
> hateful world 
> >of science has given them - like the internet where they can publish 
> >their rubbish to the hearts content, where no paper and glue 
> publisher 
> >would have touched it, and the computers they use to do it 
> with. This 
> >despite the fact that it is heretical scientific research 
> that made it 
> >all possible. Not one single solitary advance in human 
> technology has 
> >come out of the world of religion. Stone tools, metal tools, 
> >agriculture, writing, you name it, they all came out of human needs.
> >
> >Lambert
> >
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> >[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Charlotte 
> >Foust
> >Sent: Friday, June 10, 2005 4:03 PM
> >To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> >Subject: RE: [AccessD] Friday humour
> >
> >
> >Friends,
> >
> >In Woody's Lounge, we axe threads like this to avoid 
> offending anyone, 
> >however misinformed they might be in their beliefs.  Is there an 
> >equivalent rule in this list?  I get very twitchy when conversations 
> >wander into the areas of religion and politics, since they tend to 
> >deteriorate into name calling and flames.
> >
> >Charlotte Foust
> >
> >
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: Heenan, Lambert [mailto:Lambert.Heenan at aig.com]
> >Sent: Friday, June 10, 2005 11:49 AM
> >To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
> >Subject: RE: [AccessD] Friday humour
> >
> >
> >Anyone care to tell us how the Earth Centric types explain stellar 
> >parallax? Or do they simply deny its existence as their 
> various 'good 
> >books' refer to the 'fixed stars'?
> >
> >
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> >[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of 
> Elam, Debbie
> >Sent: Friday, June 10, 2005 2:39 PM
> >To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
> >Subject: RE: [AccessD] Friday humour
> >
> >
> >No it does not throw it out the window, it just makes the lovely and 
> >simple orbital mechanics equations into monster equations 
> that take a 
> >super computer to calculate with any proficiency.  Of course those 
> >other planets just orbit around the sun while the whole mess orbits 
> >around the Earth ;-). That was the real reason it became 
> obvious that 
> >the best method of calculation was to put the sun in the 
> center of the 
> >system. The whole mess with the rings was to account for planetary 
> >movements. It is a little like the headaches caused when you try to 
> >take the Earth's total motion into account when compared to 
> the motion 
> >of another star in the milky way galaxy which is all 
> rotating around a 
> >cluster of stars in the galaxy center.  Much more pleasant 
> to break it 
> >into chunks and consider the solar system a single unit when talking 
> >about motion with respect to the galaxy.
> >
> >Debbie
> >
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: Don Bozarth [mailto:drboz at pacbell.net]
> >Sent: Friday, June 10, 2005 1:25 PM
> >To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> >Subject: Re: [AccessD] Friday humour
> >
> >
> >Well, if the solar system is Earth centered, a lot of the 
> math dealing 
> >with planetary motion goes right out the window... not to 
> mention that 
> >little sniggle called gravity.  The math of orbital 
> mechanics suddenly 
> >disappears. Were all that math wrong, we could never have made it to 
> >the Moon, Venus, Mars, Jupiter, Saturn, and Uranus those 
> places manmade 
> >satellites have visited.
> >
> >Don B.
> >
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: "Elam, Debbie" <DElam at jenkens.com>
> >To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'"
> ><accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
> >Sent: Friday, June 10, 2005 11:14 AM
> >Subject: RE: [AccessD] Friday humour
> >
> >
> >  
> >
> >>Actually they are right.  The whole thing comes down to perspective.
> >>Of course the math is a heck of a lot easier if you simply consider 
> >>the sun
> >>    
> >>
> >the
> >  
> >
> >>center around which the solar system revolves.  In this case as many
> >>    
> >>
> >others,
> >  
> >
> >>why not go with the simplest answer that gives the most correct
> >>    
> >>
> >predictions?
> >  
> >
> >>Why complicate the issue by insisting that a certain perspective has
> >>to be maintained?  Groan, no doubt they will call it proof. 
>  Of course
> >>    
> >>
> >
> >  
> >
> >>the
> >>    
> >>
> >reverse
> >  
> >
> >>is just as true.  No one can prove that the sun revolves around the
> >>Earth, but that is a minor detail.
> >>
> >>Debbie
> >>
> >>-----Original Message-----
> >>From: Jim Lawrence [mailto:accessd at shaw.ca]
> >>Sent: Friday, June 10, 2005 1:00 PM
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> >>Subject: [AccessD] Friday humour
> >>
> >>
> >>Hi All:
> >>
> >>When first read I thought this was a joke... but I think it is for
> >>real; which of course would make it more hilarious. Check this out: 
> >>http://www.catholicintl.com/epologetics/articles/science/geo
> challenge.
> >>htm
> >>
> >>Jim
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From Gustav at cactus.dk  Sat Jun 11 02:12:37 2005
From: Gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Sat, 11 Jun 2005 09:12:37 +0200
Subject: [AccessD] Iterate through similarlnamed columns in a
	recordset
Message-ID: <s2aaab10.079@cactus.dk>

Hi Arthur

It should work, at least in the extended version:

  For i = 1 to 4
    debug.print rs.Fields("Size" & i & "").Value
    etc.
  Next

/gustav

>>> artful at rogers.com 06/11 3:34 am >>>
You have a table like this (let's not bring up normalisation)...

PK autonumber
Size1 long
Height1 long
Weight1 long

(The last three are repeated 3 times, so their last digits are 2, 3 and
4.)

Assume the required vars are declared and filled. rs = New 
ADODB.RecordSet. etc.
I want to write a loop something like this:

For i = 1 to 4
    debug.print rs("Size"&i)
    etc.
Next

But I can't seem to get it right. I tried using eval() and various
other 
approaches. Ideas?

Arthur



From bheygood at abestsystems.com  Sat Jun 11 10:28:36 2005
From: bheygood at abestsystems.com (Bob Heygood)
Date: Sat, 11 Jun 2005 08:28:36 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Scrape Word Part II
In-Reply-To: <42A9BD16.9050504@shaw.ca>
Message-ID: <AIEKKBIAKDJNAFGABNJKAEDLCNAA.bheygood@abestsystems.com>

thanks for your response Marty.
I started out this time to use custom properties, but am backing away
because I can't see how to keep the info the user types in at my prompt in
the custom property.

think I'll go back to just a simple bookmark, though that is a hassle as it
is hard to capture particular info once in a cell of a Word table.




bob

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of MartyConnelly
Sent: Friday, June 10, 2005 9:17 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Scrape Word Part II


As to custom properties you could use the dsofiles.dll, it works for any
ole type file
mdb,doc,xls,ppt or whatever visio uses, this also works from vb.net,
doesn't require word be installed.
There is also code to search for text which might be modified for
bookmarks but
there are two types of word bookmarks.
http://www.word.mvps.org/faqs/macrosvba/WorkWithBookmarks.htm

You could try searching this site especially the links to other word
mvp's like cindy meister
I think you will have to poke around to find all the bits and pieces
http://word.mvps.org
or the main site
http://www.mvps.org


'See MSKB and Dsofile.exe Lets You Edit Office Document Properties from
Visual Basic and ASP
'Microsoft Knowledge Base Article - 224351
'and download dsofile.exe
'http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=224351
'Add a reference (Tools | References in the VBE window) to it.
' depending on path where you have installed dsofile.dll
'Put the following in a new module and you should be OK

'Dsofile.dll lets you edit Office document properties without
'Office in Visual Basic .NET 2003 and in Visual Basic .NET 2002
'http://support.microsoft.com/?id=224351
'===========================================================
'http://www.word.mvps.org/faqs/macrosvba/WorkWithBookmarks.htm
Private oFilePropReader As DSOleFile.PropertyReader
Private oDocProp As DSOleFile.DocumentProperties

Public Sub GetPropsFromDirectory()
'this routine gets all doc files in a directory and shows Line Count and
author

Dim ffile As String
On Error Resume Next
'careful with above line
'this is Quick and Dirty used to avoid missing propereties on some filetypes
' this can be used with microsoft, doc, ppt, xls and mdb files
    ffile = Dir("c:\wordvba\*.doc")
    Do While ffile <> "" 'recursive search for sub directories can be
written
        If ffile <> "." And ffile <> ".." Then
            Set oFilePropReader = New DSOleFile.PropertyReader
            Set oDocProp = _
            oFilePropReader.GetDocumentProperties("c:\wordvba\" & ffile)
            MsgBox oDocProp.Name & " " & oDocProp.PageCount & _
               " pages " & oDocProp.Author
              With oDocProp
        Debug.Print "Name " & .Name
        Debug.Print "Application Name " & .AppName
        Debug.Print "Author " & .Author
        Debug.Print "Category " & .Category
        Debug.Print "Class Id " & .CLSID
        Debug.Print "Comments " & .Comments
        Debug.Print "Company " & .Company
        'Debug.Print "Custom " & .CustomProperties 'check index values
        Debug.Print "Create date " & .DateCreated
        Debug.Print "Last edited " & .DateLastEdited
        Debug.Print "Last printed " & .DateLastPrinted
        Debug.Print "Last saved " & .DateLastSaved
        Debug.Print "Contains Macros " & .HasMacros 'doesn't work with
ppt files
        'Debug.Print .Icon 'you can view thumbnail in picture object
        Debug.Print "Read only " & .IsReadOnly
        Debug.Print "Keywords " & .Keywords
        Debug.Print "Last edited by " & .LastEditedBy
        Debug.Print "Line Count " & .LineCount
        Debug.Print "Location " & .Location
        Debug.Print "Manager " & .Manager
        Debug.Print "Page Count " & .PageCount
        Debug.Print "Paragraphs "; .ParagraphCount
        Debug.Print "Program Id " & .ProgId
        Debug.Print "Revision No. " & .RevisionNumber
        Debug.Print "Slides "; .SlideCount
        Debug.Print "Subject " & .Subject
        Debug.Print "Title " & .Title
        Debug.Print "Version " & .Version
        Debug.Print "WordCount " & .WordCount
        Debug.Print "Char Cnt " & .CharacterCount
        Debug.Print " "
        End With
            ffile = Dir()
            Set oDocProp = Nothing
            Set oFilePropReader = Nothing

        End If
    Loop
End Sub

Here is some quick and dirty code that opens a Word doc from inside Access,
searches for the string "special code:" and sets a string variable equal to
the sentence that follows the code string. If your documents all have the
same string you can find that string and select words, sentences or
paragraphs that come after it. from  Jim Hale

Function LiftText()

Dim wd As Word.Application, strPhrase As String, strFindphrase As String
strFindphrase = "special code:"
Set wd = New Word.Application
wd.Documents.Open "C:\Test.doc"
wd.Visible = True
wd.Selection.Find.ClearFormatting
    With wd.Selection.Find
        .Text = strFindphrase
        .Replacement.Text = ""
        .Forward = True
        .Wrap = wdFindContinue
        .Format = False
        .MatchCase = False
        .MatchWholeWord = False
        .MatchWildcards = False
        .MatchSoundsLike = False
        .MatchAllWordForms = False
    End With
    wd.Selection.Find.Execute
    wd.Selection.Start = wd.Selection.End
   Call wd.Selection.EndOf(wdSentence, wdExtend)
    strPhrase = wd.Selection
    MsgBox "Look what I found: " & strPhrase
    wd.ActiveDocument.Close
    wd.Quit
    Set wd = Nothing
End Function


Bob Heygood wrote:

>thanks Jim.
>I have looked before at Helen's code. Lots of great stuff there.
>
>bob
>
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Hale, Jim
>Sent: Wednesday, June 08, 2005 8:17 AM
>To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
>Subject: RE: [AccessD] Scrape Word Part II
>
>
>At the very bottom of this link Helen Feddema has some code that may help
>you.
>http://www.helenfeddema.com/CodeSamples.htm
>
>Jim Hale
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Bob Heygood [mailto:bheygood at abestsystems.com]
>Sent: Wednesday, June 08, 2005 8:35 AM
>To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
>Subject: [AccessD] Scrape Word Part II
>
>
>Hello to the list,
>
>Well, my project is alive again. This time I have the luxury of being able
>to create the Word document from which I need to cull the info. I still
need
>to have a Word table but I can create bookmarks or whatever within the
table
>in the document.
>To recap I need to import 10 pieces of text from a Word document and store
>them in a mdb table.
>Jim Hale's code below worked really good except that we were pressed for
>time and did not ever get it to work in all areas of the Word doc.
>So my first question is how to search the Word doc to find the text,
>bookmarks, fields, custom properties or ????
>
>
>TIA,
>
>Bob Heygood
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Hale, Jim
>Sent: Monday, April 18, 2005 8:54 AM
>To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
>Subject: RE: [AccessD] Scrape Word
>
>
>Whatever it takes to get the job done! Sorry I couldn't be more help.
>Jim Hale
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Bob Heygood [mailto:bheygood at abestsystems.com]
>Sent: Monday, April 18, 2005 10:09 AM
>To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
>Subject: RE: [AccessD] Scrape Word
>
>
>Thanks Jim
>I finally just ran the job as it took about 4 hours to process 256
>documents.
>it is a one time deal and the customer needed to have the results.
>
>your help was fantastic.
>
>bob
>
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Hale, Jim
>Sent: Friday, April 15, 2005 3:18 PM
>To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
>Subject: RE: [AccessD] Scrape Word
>
>
>I'll look at it some more on Monday. You might examine the selection object
>in the Word application. It has numerous properties and methods one or more
>of which should do the trick.
>Jim Hale
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Bob Heygood [mailto:bheygood at abestsystems.com]
>Sent: Friday, April 15, 2005 4:52 PM
>To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
>Subject: RE: [AccessD] Scrape Word
>
>
>yes in a table cell.
>again your code is working super.
>but only grabs the first word, sometimes there is more than one word in the
>cell, and I would like to capture all of them.
>if you have thought, I would welcome it.
>
>
>again I tried to manipulate the code further but it acts very erratic when
>in a table cell.
>
>thanks for the great help.
>
>bob
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Hale, Jim
>Sent: Thursday, April 14, 2005 12:53 PM
>To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
>Subject: RE: [AccessD] Scrape Word
>
>
>So the data you want (including the search string) is in a table cell? In
>the code I sent you delete
>   wd.Selection.Start = wd.Selection.End
>   Call wd.Selection.EndOf(wdSentence, wdExtend)
>
>and replace with
>   wd.Selection.Next(Unit:=wdWord, Count:=1).Select
>
>Or if the entire string is returned you can replace the search string with
>an empty string "" using the following function:
>
>Function ReplaceString(strTextIn As String, strFind As String, strReplace
As
>String, fCaseSensitive As Boolean) As String
>
>  Dim strTmp As String
>  Dim intPos As Integer
>  Dim intCaseSensitive As Integer
>
>  intCaseSensitive = IIf(fCaseSensitive, 2, 1)
>
>  strTmp = strTextIn
>  intPos = InStr(1, strTmp, strFind, intCaseSensitive)
>
>  Do While intPos > 0
>    strTmp = Left$(strTmp, intPos - 1) & strReplace & Mid$(strTmp, intPos +
>Len(strFind))
>    intPos = InStr(intPos + Len(strReplace), strTmp, strFind,
>intCaseSensitive)
>  Loop
>
>  ReplaceString = strTmp
>
>End Function
>
>Jim Hale
>
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From KP at sdsonline.net  Sun Jun 12 02:22:02 2005
From: KP at sdsonline.net (Kath Pelletti)
Date: Sun, 12 Jun 2005 17:22:02 +1000
Subject: [AccessD]Error loading picture
Message-ID: <004601c56f1f$6e8c6090$6601a8c0@user>

Re: this problem:

>When the user opens a form which attempts to load a .jpg or .gif picture the system come up with "...the database doesn't support the format of 
>'E:\Database\Photos\Peru.jpg' so it can't load the picture.

I found a bizarre solution in a line on the Lebans website to the effect that if the file extension is upper case it is treated differently by Access to it being in lower case. Disbelieving, I tried it and it works. If I change the file extension of the 350 photos which this system uses (which I can do with one DOS command) from .jpg to .JPG then Access manages to load them correctly.

It's a bit of a bizarre solution but having uninstalled and re-installed the graphics filters for Office twice, then doing a complete re-installation of Office I am relieved to find any kind of a simple solution. 

BTW - Marty - I did spend some tine on this:  http://www.lebans.com/loadjpeg?gif.htm but found that it was difficult to follow. Have you used it?  

Kath

______________________________________________
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From artful at rogers.com  Sun Jun 12 15:46:12 2005
From: artful at rogers.com (Arthur Fuller)
Date: Sun, 12 Jun 2005 16:46:12 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Access SaveAs command
In-Reply-To: <6.2.1.2.0.20050605104652.040f9d38@incoming.verizon.net>
References: <010d01c56601$38f04cc0$6501a8c0@HAL9004>
	<6.2.1.2.0.20050605104652.040f9d38@incoming.verizon.net>
Message-ID: <42AC9F14.4020600@rogers.com>

Assume a report Arthur_rpt, which is scoped by the currently selected 
PK. I want to create an HTML file from said rpt and save it to a name 
derived from the PK (i.e. 12345-T1-20050612). What is the command to to 
do this? I have read the Access help and a few related docs and still 
cannot deduce what I am to do, nor where I am to do it.

The exact scenario:
a) I have a Word template AF001.dot.
b) from this, in Access and using the Word object model, I create a new 
Word doc and populate various bookmarks with data.
c) What remains to do is fill in three tables in the created doc with 
rows derived from the principal or ancillary queries.

The template has the table already created, with its headers etc. Now 
supposing that the query returns 8 rows; I need to add 8 rows to the 
table to contain the retrieved data.

On my reading, mail-merge was not designed to do this. It assumes 
instead that each row corresponds to one document.

Let me reiterate to make my requirements as clear as possible.
a) I have an Access report which behaves correctly (i.e. retrieves the 
data desired and places it in the places desired.
b) I have a Word template containing a bunch of boilerplate and places 
for N tables., which correspond exactly to the subforms in the Access 
report aforementioned.
c) Assume N tables that must be embedded in the Word doc. Assume also 
that any of these may contain no rows -- in which case the table(s) must 
be remdered invisible.

I have been looking at the mailmerge docs, the Word objiect-model docs, 
and so on, and I still don;t have a clear handle on this. I know exactly 
what I want to do, and will try to express iti clearly below. I iust 
can't see the way to do it.

Access PK = 12345
SubTable 1
SubTable 2
SubTable 1.1

Most of the Word doc is boilerplate (but even then. conditionals are at 
play). Here and there in the DOT file are bookmarks, which I populate 
without difficulty. The issues I have arise with the embedded tables.

For simplicity's sake. assume one template containing two tables. each 
of whose length varies from doc to doc. Table 1 must be formatted in 
this way (3 cols)  while Table 2 must be formatted in that way (4 cols).

The kludge that works is sickening as judged from my peers' pov... so 
don't waste our bandwidth bitching about that. What I do at the moment 
(permission granted to laugh) is gen an HTML file of the requisite 
tables then import that into the actual document. It sucks I admit but 
it works. for now. I need this all to become a one-button no-brainder 
for the users to use.

Recipe"
1 Word Template with both bookmarks (simple) and slots for tables
2. Access tabular outputs in whatever form will work best
3. Drop the tables into the doc and allow the user to save it to a 
suggeted name.

Table A might have one row; Table B might have 3 rows for every row in T1.

I can make this happen manually (i.e. intervening with keystrokes) but I 
need to automate it.

Any suggestions?

TIA,
Arthur



From martyconnelly at shaw.ca  Sun Jun 12 16:14:26 2005
From: martyconnelly at shaw.ca (MartyConnelly)
Date: Sun, 12 Jun 2005 14:14:26 -0700
Subject: [AccessD]Error loading picture
References: <004601c56f1f$6e8c6090$6601a8c0@user>
Message-ID: <42ACA5B2.6090104@shaw.ca>

Actually it is a bit more bizarre
You don't have to change the actual physical filename extension case.

Just change the filename string or just the extension part via UCase or 
LCase
when you pass to the Picture property of the Image control.

lower case bypasses Office Graphics filters, something to do with 
metafiles in the image.
If the file extension is in uppercase  then the Office Graphicsfilters 
will be used to load the image.

You can also download and install, if something has gone wrong with your 
filters.

Office File Converter Pack   OCONVPCK.EXE
This download provides file converters and image filters for Microsoft 
Office programs, from Microsoft Office 97 to Microsoft Office 2003.
It depends on what version of office is installed.

http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyID=cf196df0-70e5-4595-8a98-370278f40c57&DisplayLang=en

Info here
http://office.microsoft.com/en-us/assistance/HA011513581033.aspx

If you use Lebans method (a bit convoluted) to get .jpeg extensions make 
this change in Function fLoadPicture
 
Select Case right$(strfName, 3)

    Case "bmp", "dib", "Gif", "emf", "Wmf", "ico", "cur", "jpg", "peg"

I gave up using jpegs for other reasons, I was getting microfilm images
and so used djvu format as it can be up to 10 times smaller on black and 
white text type images
and has a text searchable metafile plugins. Some University libraries 
are using for historical
archive display on the web. Things like old manuscripts and folios.

http://www.djvuzone.org/wid/index.html
http://www.djvuzone.org/

Kath Pelletti wrote:

>Re: this problem:
>
>  
>
>>When the user opens a form which attempts to load a .jpg or .gif picture the system come up with "...the database doesn't support the format of 
>>'E:\Database\Photos\Peru.jpg' so it can't load the picture.
>>    
>>
>
>I found a bizarre solution in a line on the Lebans website to the effect that if the file extension is upper case it is treated differently by Access to it being in lower case. Disbelieving, I tried it and it works. If I change the file extension of the 350 photos which this system uses (which I can do with one DOS command) from .jpg to .JPG then Access manages to load them correctly.
>
>It's a bit of a bizarre solution but having uninstalled and re-installed the graphics filters for Office twice, then doing a complete re-installation of Office I am relieved to find any kind of a simple solution. 
>
>BTW - Marty - I did spend some tine on this:  http://www.lebans.com/loadjpeg?gif.htm but found that it was difficult to follow. Have you used it?  
>
>Kath
>
>______________________________________________
>Kath Pelletti
>Software Design & Solutions Pty Ltd.
>Ph: 9505-6714
>Fax: 9505-6430
>KP at SDSOnline.net
>  
>

-- 
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Victoria, B.C.
Canada





From pedro at plex.nl  Sun Jun 12 16:50:37 2005
From: pedro at plex.nl (Pedro Janssen)
Date: Sun, 12 Jun 2005 23:50:37 +0200
Subject: [AccessD] invalid number of arguments
Message-ID: <002a01c56f98$c62e6a90$fac581d5@pedro>

Hello Group,

i am using a function that Neil Kling provided me in the past.
When running it from an expression i get an error:

Invalid number of arguments.

Who can help me with this

Pedro Janssen




Function DeleteTableLink(strTableName As String) As Boolean
On Error GoTo Err_DeleteTableLink
  Dim db As Database
  
  strTableName = "tblDebiteurAlgemeen"
  
  Set db = DBEngine(0)(0)
  db.TableDefs.Delete strTableName
  db.TableDefs.Refresh

  DeleteTableLink = True

Exit_DeleteTableLink:
Exit Function

Err_DeleteTableLink:
  Select Case Err
  Case 0    'insert Errors you wish to ignore here
    Resume Next
  Case 3265      'Item doesn't exist in collection
        Resume Next
  Case Else 'All other errors will trap
    Beep
    MsgBox Err.Number & "; " & Err.Description, , "Error in function basObjectHandlers.DeleteTableLink"
  Resume Exit_DeleteTableLink
  End Select
  Resume 0  'FOR TROUBLESHOOTING
End Function


From mmattys at rochester.rr.com  Sun Jun 12 18:13:08 2005
From: mmattys at rochester.rr.com (Michael R Mattys)
Date: Sun, 12 Jun 2005 19:13:08 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] invalid number of arguments
References: <002a01c56f98$c62e6a90$fac581d5@pedro>
Message-ID: <017001c56fa4$4d7685e0$0202a8c0@default>

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Pedro Janssen" <pedro at plex.nl>
To: <AccessD at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Sunday, June 12, 2005 5:50 PM
Subject: [AccessD] invalid number of arguments


Hello Group,

i am using a function that Neil Kling provided me in the past.
When running it from an expression i get an error:

Invalid number of arguments.

Who can help me with this

------

Pedro,

It should be 

db.TableDefs(strTableName).Delete

----

Michael R. Mattys
Mattys MapLib for Microsoft MapPoint 
http://www.mattysconsulting.com


From lists at theopg.com  Sun Jun 12 18:19:13 2005
From: lists at theopg.com (MarkH)
Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2005 00:19:13 +0100
Subject: [AccessD] invalid number of arguments
In-Reply-To: <017001c56fa4$4d7685e0$0202a8c0@default>
Message-ID: <000501c56fa5$26b3c610$b20b6bd5@netboxxp>

Have you checked strTableName is <>""

Mark

-----Original Message-----
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Mattys
Sent: 13 June 2005 00:13
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] invalid number of arguments


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Pedro Janssen" <pedro at plex.nl>
To: <AccessD at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Sunday, June 12, 2005 5:50 PM
Subject: [AccessD] invalid number of arguments


Hello Group,

i am using a function that Neil Kling provided me in the past. When
running it from an expression i get an error:

Invalid number of arguments.

Who can help me with this

------

Pedro,

It should be 

db.TableDefs(strTableName).Delete

----

Michael R. Mattys
Mattys MapLib for Microsoft MapPoint 
http://www.mattysconsulting.com
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From stuart at lexacorp.com.pg  Sun Jun 12 19:30:56 2005
From: stuart at lexacorp.com.pg (Stuart McLachlan)
Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2005 10:30:56 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] Access SaveAs command
In-Reply-To: <42AC9F14.4020600@rogers.com>
References: <6.2.1.2.0.20050605104652.040f9d38@incoming.verizon.net>
Message-ID: <42AD6060.22471.294D4D@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>

On 12 Jun 2005 at 16:46, Arthur Fuller wrote:

> Assume a report Arthur_rpt, which is scoped by the currently selected 
> PK. I want to create an HTML file from said rpt and save it to a name 
> derived from the PK (i.e. 12345-T1-20050612). What is the command to to 
> do this? I have read the Access help and a few related docs and still 
> cannot deduce what I am to do, nor where I am to do it.
> 

I gave up on trying to export reports to HTML.  You get horribly bloated 
HTML.  The worst part is that Access creates a new table for every row and 
bases the cell widths on the contents of that row so rows  NEVER line up 
properly.  

I use  VBA code to Print the HTML code directly to file from the original 
recordset. That way have total control of the end product. Something like:

Open "12345-T1-20050612.htm" for Output as #1
Print #1 "<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC ""-//W3C//DTD XHTML 1.0 Strict//EN""" & _
          """http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml1/DTD/xhtml1-strict.dtd"">"
Print #1 "<html xmlns=""http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml"" xml:lang=""en"" >"
Print #1 "<head>"
......
Print #1, "</head>"
Print #1, "<body>"
........

........
Print #1 "<table  width=""95%"" border=""0"" cellspacing=""3"" 
cellpadding=""4"" >"
While not rs.eof
   Print #1,"<tr>" & _
                "<td><center>" & rs(0) & "</center></td>" & _
                "<td>" &  rs(1) & "</td>" & _
                "<td></bold>" & rs(2) & "</bold></td>" & _
                .............
                "</tr>
   rs.movenext
Wend
Print #1,"</table>
........................

........................
Print "</body>"
Print "</html>
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From adtp at touchtelindia.net  Mon Jun 13 00:19:22 2005
From: adtp at touchtelindia.net (A.D.Tejpal)
Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2005 10:49:22 +0530
Subject: [AccessD] Generating a rownumber field in a query
References: <F2BE8EAB3EA585418337B71BCE6F3BF304EBB3@msmet100.rail.nsw.gov.au >
Message-ID: <006e01c56fd8$1819a4c0$351865cb@winxp>

Bruce,

    So long as the source table has a primary key field, simplified function Fn_RowNum() as given below, gets sequential row numbers, starting from 1. Its use in a sample query is demonstrated below.

    This function has an additional advantage that the output is stable as compared to alternatives using increments to static or global variables, where the results are volatile, prone to change with repeat navigation (up and down) through the column concerned.

    Q_Source is the source query (where contents of source table / tables are duly collected and sorted as desired), while ID is the name of primary key field in source table. If raw data in a single source table is desired to be used directly, without any sorting, name of this table can be used (in lieu of Q_Source), in the sample query given below.

Best wishes,
A.D.Tejpal
--------------

Sample Query (for generating sequential row numbers)
Based upon source query Q_Source.
(ID is the name of primary key field).
=====================================
SELECT Q_Source.*, 
Fn_RowNum("Q_Source","ID",[ID]) AS RowNum 
FROM Q_Source;
=====================================

Fn_RowNum() - User defined function
=====================================
Function Fn_RowNum(ByVal QueryName As String, _
                 ByVal PrimaryKeyName As String, _
                 ByVal PrimaryKeyValue As Long) As Long
' Returns Row number for the record having primary key field
' named PrimaryKeyName with a value = PrimaryKeyValue,
' in source query named QueryName
    Dim Rct As Long
    Dim rst As DAO.Recordset
    
    Rct = 0
    Set rst = CurrentDb.OpenRecordset(QueryName)
    rst.FindFirst PrimaryKeyName & " = " & PrimaryKeyValue
    If Not rst.NoMatch Then
        Rct = rst.AbsolutePosition + 1
    End If
    
    Fn_RowNum = Rct
    rst.Close
    Set rst = Nothing
End Function
=====================================

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Bruen, Bruce 
  To: AccessD at databaseadvisors.com 
  Sent: Friday, June 10, 2005 07:38
  Subject: [AccessD] Generating a rownumber field in a query


  Hi folks,
   
  I want to output a sequence number as a field in a query result.
  Everytime the query runs it should restart the sequence number from 1.
   
  The query appends rows to a "testscript" table, every new test cycle we generate a new set of test scripts which is made up of all the tests in the previous cycle plus new tests that were added during the execution of the last cycle.  The natural key for the output table is the cycle number + the sequence number.
   
  Cycle    Seq    Testname .....   
     1          1        blah
     1          2        blah blah
  ...
     2          1        blah blah
     2          2        blah blah blah
  etc
   
  The cycle number is input as a parameter to the append query.  But how can I generate the sequence numbers?
   
  tia
  bruce



From roz.clarke at donnslaw.co.uk  Mon Jun 13 04:28:38 2005
From: roz.clarke at donnslaw.co.uk (Roz Clarke)
Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2005 10:28:38 +0100
Subject: [AccessD] MODERATOR NEEDED NOW!!! /was Friday humour
Message-ID: <61F915314798D311A2F800A0C9C8318807225B3A@dibble.observatory.donnslaw.co.uk>

Hi all

As a general reminder, please everyone - if you need to refer a thread to
the mods and none seem to be around, email us at
ops-mod at databaseadvisors.com.

Thanks

Roz

-----Original Message-----
From: Susan Harkins [mailto:ssharkins at bellsouth.net] 
Sent: 10 June 2005 22:54
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] MODERATOR NEEDED NOW!!! /was Friday humour


If you need a second, I'll second that, and third it, and fourth it...
<slap> <breathe>

Frankly, Lambert was rather tart, even by OT standards! ;)  

Susan H. 

..can somebody with a smattering of common sense please delete this.

..OT is the place for this ...not AccessD.


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From carbonnb at gmail.com  Mon Jun 13 06:47:39 2005
From: carbonnb at gmail.com (Bryan Carbonnell)
Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2005 07:47:39 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] MODERATOR NEEDED NOW!!! /was Friday humour
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On 6/13/05, Roz Clarke <roz.clarke at donnslaw.co.uk> wrote:

> As a general reminder, please everyone - if you need to refer a thread to
> the mods and none seem to be around, email us at
> ops-mod at databaseadvisors.com.

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From pedro at plex.nl  Mon Jun 13 07:39:33 2005
From: pedro at plex.nl (Pedro Janssen)
Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2005 14:39:33 +0200
Subject: [AccessD] invalid number of arguments
References: <000501c56fa5$26b3c610$b20b6bd5@netboxxp>
Message-ID: <001501c57014$f50b4320$fac581d5@pedro>

Hello Mark,

if you mean; when the strTableName is empty, it gives an error, can't fnd
table.
Otherwise i don't know what you mean.

Pedro Janssen


----- Original Message -----
From: "MarkH" <lists at theopg.com>
To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'"
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Monday, June 13, 2005 1:19 AM
Subject: RE: [AccessD] invalid number of arguments


> Have you checked strTableName is <>""
>
> Mark
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Michael R
> Mattys
> Sent: 13 June 2005 00:13
> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] invalid number of arguments
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Pedro Janssen" <pedro at plex.nl>
> To: <AccessD at databaseadvisors.com>
> Sent: Sunday, June 12, 2005 5:50 PM
> Subject: [AccessD] invalid number of arguments
>
>
> Hello Group,
>
> i am using a function that Neil Kling provided me in the past. When
> running it from an expression i get an error:
>
> Invalid number of arguments.
>
> Who can help me with this
>
> ------
>
> Pedro,
>
> It should be
>
> db.TableDefs(strTableName).Delete
>
> ----
>
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> Mattys MapLib for Microsoft MapPoint
> http://www.mattysconsulting.com
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From pedro at plex.nl  Mon Jun 13 07:41:37 2005
From: pedro at plex.nl (Pedro Janssen)
Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2005 14:41:37 +0200
Subject: [AccessD] invalid number of arguments
References: <002a01c56f98$c62e6a90$fac581d5@pedro>
	<017001c56fa4$4d7685e0$0202a8c0@default>
Message-ID: <001901c57015$3ddf5dc0$fac581d5@pedro>

Hello Michael,

when using db.TableDefs(strTableName).Delete it gives an compile-error:
Can't find methode or member.

Any other ideas.

Pedro Janssen



----- Original Message -----
From: "Michael R Mattys" <mmattys at rochester.rr.com>
To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving"
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Monday, June 13, 2005 1:13 AM
Subject: Re: [AccessD] invalid number of arguments


> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Pedro Janssen" <pedro at plex.nl>
> To: <AccessD at databaseadvisors.com>
> Sent: Sunday, June 12, 2005 5:50 PM
> Subject: [AccessD] invalid number of arguments
>
>
> Hello Group,
>
> i am using a function that Neil Kling provided me in the past.
> When running it from an expression i get an error:
>
> Invalid number of arguments.
>
> Who can help me with this
>
> ------
>
> Pedro,
>
> It should be
>
> db.TableDefs(strTableName).Delete
>
> ----
>
> Michael R. Mattys
> Mattys MapLib for Microsoft MapPoint
> http://www.mattysconsulting.com
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From nkling at co.montgomery.ny.us  Mon Jun 13 07:52:02 2005
From: nkling at co.montgomery.ny.us (Neal Kling)
Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2005 08:52:02 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] invalid number of arguments
Message-ID: <30BC111F638EB54082001A7E7282FE4107F3BE@elmo.co.montgomery.ny.us>

I see you're setting the table variable right in the function. But the function it's self is still expecting you to pass a table name. I suspect this may be where you are having a problem. Either redeclare the function without the strTableName parameter, or pass it the table name. In other words instead of setting strTableName in the function, call the function like this:

DeleteTableLink "tblDebiteurAlgemeen"

Don't forget to comment out the line
strTableName = "tblDebiteurAlgemeen"

Neal

-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Pedro Janssen
Sent: Sunday, June 12, 2005 5:51 PM
To: AccessD at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [AccessD] invalid number of arguments


Hello Group,

i am using a function that Neil Kling provided me in the past.
When running it from an expression i get an error:

Invalid number of arguments.

Who can help me with this

Pedro Janssen




Function DeleteTableLink(strTableName As String) As Boolean
On Error GoTo Err_DeleteTableLink
  Dim db As Database
  
  strTableName = "tblDebiteurAlgemeen"
  
  Set db = DBEngine(0)(0)
  db.TableDefs.Delete strTableName
  db.TableDefs.Refresh

  DeleteTableLink = True

Exit_DeleteTableLink:
Exit Function

Err_DeleteTableLink:
  Select Case Err
  Case 0    'insert Errors you wish to ignore here
    Resume Next
  Case 3265      'Item doesn't exist in collection
        Resume Next
  Case Else 'All other errors will trap
    Beep
    MsgBox Err.Number & "; " & Err.Description, , "Error in function basObjectHandlers.DeleteTableLink"
  Resume Exit_DeleteTableLink
  End Select
  Resume 0  'FOR TROUBLESHOOTING
End Function
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From roz.clarke at donnslaw.co.uk  Mon Jun 13 08:01:41 2005
From: roz.clarke at donnslaw.co.uk (Roz Clarke)
Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2005 14:01:41 +0100
Subject: [AccessD] MODERATOR NEEDED NOW!!! /was Friday humour
Message-ID: <61F915314798D311A2F800A0C9C8318807225B3E@dibble.observatory.donnslaw.co.uk>

oops

/sheepish grin


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Sent: 13 June 2005 12:48
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] MODERATOR NEEDED NOW!!! /was Friday humour


On 6/13/05, Roz Clarke <roz.clarke at donnslaw.co.uk> wrote:

> As a general reminder, please everyone - if you need to refer a thread 
> to the mods and none seem to be around, email us at 
> ops-mod at databaseadvisors.com.

Actually, only Moderators can post to ops-mod at databaseadvisors.com. It's a
closed list for the mods only.

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From mmattys at rochester.rr.com  Mon Jun 13 08:13:33 2005
From: mmattys at rochester.rr.com (Michael R Mattys)
Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2005 09:13:33 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] invalid number of arguments
References: <002a01c56f98$c62e6a90$fac581d5@pedro>
	<017001c56fa4$4d7685e0$0202a8c0@default>
	<001901c57015$3ddf5dc0$fac581d5@pedro>
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Pedro,

Sorry. This is how I remove linked tables:
To make it so that you remove only specific tables
you modify it so that you end up with Neal's function.

Function RemoveLinkedTbls()
    Dim db As DAO.Database, tdf As DAO.TableDef
    Set db = CurrentDb
    For Each tdf In db.TableDefs
        If tdf.Connect <> "" Then
            DoCmd.DeleteObject acTable, tdf.Name
        End If
    Next
    Set db = Nothing
End Function
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Pedro Janssen" <pedro at plex.nl>
To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving"
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Monday, June 13, 2005 8:41 AM
Subject: Re: [AccessD] invalid number of arguments


> Hello Michael,
>
> when using db.TableDefs(strTableName).Delete it gives an compile-error:
> Can't find methode or member.
>
> Any other ideas.
>
> Pedro Janssen
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Michael R Mattys" <mmattys at rochester.rr.com>
> To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving"
> <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
> Sent: Monday, June 13, 2005 1:13 AM
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] invalid number of arguments
>
>
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Pedro Janssen" <pedro at plex.nl>
> > To: <AccessD at databaseadvisors.com>
> > Sent: Sunday, June 12, 2005 5:50 PM
> > Subject: [AccessD] invalid number of arguments
> >
> >
> > Hello Group,
> >
> > i am using a function that Neil Kling provided me in the past.
> > When running it from an expression i get an error:
> >
> > Invalid number of arguments.
> >
> > Who can help me with this
> >
> > ------
> >
> > Pedro,
> >
> > It should be
> >
> > db.TableDefs(strTableName).Delete
> >
> > ----
> >
> > Michael R. Mattys
> > Mattys MapLib for Microsoft MapPoint
> > http://www.mattysconsulting.com
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From dkalsow at yahoo.com  Mon Jun 13 09:40:53 2005
From: dkalsow at yahoo.com (Dale Kalsow)
Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2005 07:40:53 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [AccessD] Friday humour
In-Reply-To: <7B1961ED924D1A459E378C9B1BB22B4C0492C98D@natexch.jenkens.com>
Message-ID: <20050613144053.92498.qmail@web50409.mail.yahoo.com>


Good Morning Everyone,

Some one told me I can create a visio document and then from visio create my SQL tables.  Does anyone know who to do this?  Does it also work for MS Access?  Can I also go from SQL or Access and have my table documented in Visio?

 

Thanks!

Dale

 

		
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From andy at minstersystems.co.uk  Mon Jun 13 09:46:05 2005
From: andy at minstersystems.co.uk (Andy Lacey)
Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2005 15:46:05 +0100
Subject: [AccessD] Friday humour
Message-ID: <20050613144601.DCEF424E637@smtp.nildram.co.uk>

Hi Dale
Sorry but I don't get it. It must be the way you tell 'em.

(I think you need to change the Subject)

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Date: 13/06/05 14:42

>
>
> Good Morning Everyone,
>
> Some one told me I can create a visio document and then from visio create
my SQL tables.  Does anyone know who to do this?  Does it also work for MS
Access?  Can I also go from SQL or Access and have my table documented in
Visio?
>
>
>
> Thanks!
>
> Dale
>
>
>
>
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From mikedorism at verizon.net  Mon Jun 13 10:41:09 2005
From: mikedorism at verizon.net (Mike & Doris Manning)
Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2005 11:41:09 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Visio Database Question
In-Reply-To: <20050613144053.92498.qmail@web50409.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <001701c5702e$52a4b660$2f01a8c0@hargrove.internal>

You need Visio Professional.  It does work\s with both Access and SQL
Server.  The template you want is the Database Model Diagram.

Doris Manning
Database Administrator
Hargrove Inc.
www.hargroveinc.com


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Dale Kalsow
Sent: Monday, June 13, 2005 10:41 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Friday humour



Good Morning Everyone,

Some one told me I can create a visio document and then from visio create my
SQL tables.  Does anyone know who to do this?  Does it also work for MS
Access?  Can I also go from SQL or Access and have my table documented in
Visio?

 

Thanks!

Dale

 

		
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From zding at symphonyinfo.com  Mon Jun 13 12:01:20 2005
From: zding at symphonyinfo.com (Zhaoxin Ding)
Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2005 12:01:20 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] automated response
Message-ID: <10506131201.AA52723292@symphonyinfo.com>

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From Drawbridge.Jack at ic.gc.ca  Mon Jun 13 13:53:01 2005
From: Drawbridge.Jack at ic.gc.ca (Drawbridge, Jack: #CIO - BPI)
Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2005 14:53:01 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Automating - IE6 - File Save As -- Marty
Message-ID: <0F3AFAE449DD4A40BED8B6C4A97ABF5B0298AABE@MSG-MB3.icent.ic.gc.ca>

Marty

Thanks for info. It's close to what I'm looking for. 
Have not seen the ".queryCommandEnabled" or ".execCommand"

In your code
    'or alternate method that security may clobber, saves everthing with 
      fileopen box used
     -With objExplorer.Document
       -If .queryCommandEnabled("saveAs") Then .execCommand "saveAs", False, 
         "C:\temp\myurl.htm"
      -End With
 I'm trying to actually use File SaveAs Webpage, Complete. If you manually do a File SaveAs in Internet explorer, you'll see other options than (htm,html).
Your technique gives me (htm, html). Can you see any means of supplying/gettign other options?

Thanks
jack


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of MartyConnelly
Sent: Friday, June 10, 2005 6:40 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Automating - IE6 - File Save As -- Marty


You maynot be able to do this for security reasons on second method.
Ran this okay from WinXP SP2, Access97, IE6.0.2900  xpsp2 patches

Here are two ways.

'This gets around security limitations
'will only save between <body> </body> tags
CreateObject("Scripting.FileSystemObject").OpenTextFile("C:\temp\myurlsaved.htm", 
2, True).Write _
   objExplorer.Document.Body.innerHTML

'or alternate method that security may clobber, saves everthing with 
fileopen box used
With objExplorer.Document
  If .queryCommandEnabled("saveAs") Then .execCommand "saveAs", False, 
"C:\temp\myurl.htm"
 End With

Anywho here is some rough test code, that works both ways.
You can throw out all the commented objdocument code at bottom.


Sub testIESave(strpassHTML As String)
'------------------
'testIESave "http://www.Viescas.com/"
Dim objExplorer As Object
Dim objDocument As Object
Dim strComputer As String

Dim strReturn As String

Set objExplorer = CreateObject("InternetExplorer.Application")

'objExplorer.navigate "about:blank"
objExplorer.navigate strpassHTML
objExplorer.Toolbar = 1 'or 0 to turnoff toolbar turned off maynot save 
all html source
objExplorer.StatusBar = 0
objExplorer.Width = 800
objExplorer.Height = 570
objExplorer.Left = 0
objExplorer.Top = 0
objExplorer.Visible = 1
'dont't need to navigate to file or http site
'just drop html string in document object
'objExplorer.Navigate "file://c:\temp\test.html"
'objExplorer.Navigate "http://www.Viescas.com/"
'objExplorer.Navigate "http://checkip.dyndns.org/"

Do While (objExplorer.Busy)
Loop
Dim webtx As String
Dim strHTML As String
'will only save between <body> </body> tags
CreateObject("Scripting.FileSystemObject").OpenTextFile("C:\temp\myurlsmall.htm", 
2, True).Write _
   objExplorer.Document.Body.innerHTML
'alternate method security may clobber saves everything
With objExplorer.Document
  If .queryCommandEnabled("saveAs") Then .execCommand "saveAs", False, 
"C:\temp\myurl.htm"
 End With
 
'Set objDocument = objExplorer.Document
'objDocument.Open
'objDocument.writeln "<html><head><title>My Continuous 
Pictures</title></head>"
'you probably don't need all this but you could throw in some css
'objDocument.writeln "<body bgcolor='red';" & _
'    " {   background-attachment: fixed; background-position: 97% 
bottom; " & _
'      "  background-image= 'url(logoBackGround.gif)';background-repeat: 
no-repeat;" & _
'       " padding: 5px;font-family='Georgia';font-size: 80%;} >"
   
'objDocument.writeln "<table width='100%'>"
'objDocument.writeln "<tr>"
'objDocument.writeln "<td width='20%'><b>Pictures</b></td>"
'objDocument.writeln "</tr>"
'objDocument.writeln "</table>"

'objDocument.writeln "<h3>Method #2:</h3><img src = ""C:\Access 
files\CandaceTripp\picture\shakes.bmp"" Width = ""150"" Height = ""75"" 
alt = ""Random Image #4"" />"

'objDocument.writeln strpassHTML
'objDocument.writeln "</body></html>"
'objDocument.Write()
'objDocument.Close
'MsgBox "finished"
Set objExplorer = Nothing
Set objDocument = Nothing

End Sub


Drawbridge, Jack: #CIO - BPI wrote:

>Have had no responses with original post. I believe it is a question of automating IE, and how to get to CommonDialog in order to do the File Save As.
>
>IE does a fantastic job of removing relative links and downloading a clean set of files when using the File Save As webpage complete option. I do not want to do the File saves manually. There must be a means to automate this in VBA???
>
>Any advice/help on this would be greatly appreciated.
>
>Thanks,
>
>jack
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Drawbridge,
>Jack: #CIO - BPI
>Sent: Thursday, June 2, 2005 3:01 PM
>To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
>Subject: [AccessD] A2K talking to IE6 - File Save As
>
>
>Looking for help/advice or sample code to open IE6 from code in A2K. Am interested in how to do a File| Save As Webpage, Complete.
>We have a database of 60000 companies and want to put extracts of selected 100-500 companies (html and graphics etc) onto a CD for use with Offline Browser.
>
>Can not figure out how to get to IE6 File | Save As.
>
>I have some code to open a page with IE browser and save all the links on the page.
>
>Any help would be appreciated.
>
>TIA 
>
>jack
>
>'---- CODE to GET the Links from a given page ----
>'---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>' Procedure : GetLinks
>' DateTime  : 2005-06-02 14:19
>' Author    :
>' Purpose   : get all links from a named webpage URL
>'---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>'
>Sub GetLinks()
>
>' ** need to set a reference to
>' ** Microsoft Internet Controls
>
>    Dim IeApp As InternetExplorer
>    Dim sURL As String
>    Dim IeDoc As Object
>    Dim i As Long
>    
>   'Create new instance of IE
>    Set IeApp = New InternetExplorer
>    
>    'May wish to make IeApp visible
>    'apparently some things don't work
>    'unless it's visible
>    IeApp.Visible = False
>    
>    'define the page to open
>    sURL = "www.diligens.com"
>    
>    'navigate to the page based on URL
>    IeApp.Navigate sURL
>   
>    'Pause until the webpage is completely loaded
>    Do
>    Loop Until IeApp.ReadyState = READYSTATE_COMPLETE
>    
>    'Create instance of Document object
>    Set IeDoc = IeApp.Document
>  
>    'Loop through the document's links collection.
>    For i = 0 To IeDoc.links.Length - 1
>        Debug.Print IeDoc.links(i).href
>    Next i
>    
>    'Clean up
>    Set IeApp = Nothing
>    Set IeDoc = Nothing
>End Sub
>  
>

-- 
Marty Connelly
Victoria, B.C.
Canada



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From pedro at plex.nl  Mon Jun 13 14:10:46 2005
From: pedro at plex.nl (Pedro Janssen)
Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2005 21:10:46 +0200
Subject: [AccessD] invalid number of arguments
References: <002a01c56f98$c62e6a90$fac581d5@pedro><017001c56fa4$4d7685e0$0202a8c0@default><001901c57015$3ddf5dc0$fac581d5@pedro>
	<00c101c57019$b79955e0$0202a8c0@default>
Message-ID: <002301c5704b$9b1b4180$fac581d5@pedro>

Thanks for this code Michael,

but i need to solve the invalid argument error anyway, because i have other
codes with the same problem.

Pedro Janssen


----- Original Message -----
From: "Michael R Mattys" <mmattys at rochester.rr.com>
To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving"
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Monday, June 13, 2005 3:13 PM
Subject: Re: [AccessD] invalid number of arguments


> Pedro,
>
> Sorry. This is how I remove linked tables:
> To make it so that you remove only specific tables
> you modify it so that you end up with Neal's function.
>
> Function RemoveLinkedTbls()
>     Dim db As DAO.Database, tdf As DAO.TableDef
>     Set db = CurrentDb
>     For Each tdf In db.TableDefs
>         If tdf.Connect <> "" Then
>             DoCmd.DeleteObject acTable, tdf.Name
>         End If
>     Next
>     Set db = Nothing
> End Function
> ----
>
> Michael R. Mattys
> Mattys MapLib for Microsoft MapPoint
> http://www.mattysconsulting.com
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Pedro Janssen" <pedro at plex.nl>
> To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving"
> <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
> Sent: Monday, June 13, 2005 8:41 AM
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] invalid number of arguments
>
>
> > Hello Michael,
> >
> > when using db.TableDefs(strTableName).Delete it gives an compile-error:
> > Can't find methode or member.
> >
> > Any other ideas.
> >
> > Pedro Janssen
> >
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Michael R Mattys" <mmattys at rochester.rr.com>
> > To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving"
> > <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
> > Sent: Monday, June 13, 2005 1:13 AM
> > Subject: Re: [AccessD] invalid number of arguments
> >
> >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Pedro Janssen" <pedro at plex.nl>
> > > To: <AccessD at databaseadvisors.com>
> > > Sent: Sunday, June 12, 2005 5:50 PM
> > > Subject: [AccessD] invalid number of arguments
> > >
> > >
> > > Hello Group,
> > >
> > > i am using a function that Neil Kling provided me in the past.
> > > When running it from an expression i get an error:
> > >
> > > Invalid number of arguments.
> > >
> > > Who can help me with this
> > >
> > > ------
> > >
> > > Pedro,
> > >
> > > It should be
> > >
> > > db.TableDefs(strTableName).Delete
> > >
> > > ----
> > >
> > > Michael R. Mattys
> > > Mattys MapLib for Microsoft MapPoint
> > > http://www.mattysconsulting.com
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From pedro at plex.nl  Mon Jun 13 14:14:47 2005
From: pedro at plex.nl (Pedro Janssen)
Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2005 21:14:47 +0200
Subject: [AccessD] invalid number of arguments
References: <30BC111F638EB54082001A7E7282FE4107F3BE@elmo.co.montgomery.ny.us>
Message-ID: <002901c5704c$2a9720e0$fac581d5@pedro>

Hello Neal,

i now have tried:

Function DeleteTableLink(tblDebiteurAlgemeen As String) As Boolean
On Error GoTo Err_DeleteTableLink
  Dim db As Database

  Set db = DBEngine(0)(0)
  db.TableDefs.Delete (tblDebiteurAlgemeen)
  db.TableDefs.Refresh

  DeleteTableLink = True

Exit_DeleteTableLink:

etc.etc.etc


but i still have the error.

Anyone any ideas.

Pedro



----- Original Message -----
From: "Neal Kling" <nkling at co.montgomery.ny.us>
To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving"
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Monday, June 13, 2005 2:52 PM
Subject: RE: [AccessD] invalid number of arguments


> I see you're setting the table variable right in the function. But the
function it's self is still expecting you to pass a table name. I suspect
this may be where you are having a problem. Either redeclare the function
without the strTableName parameter, or pass it the table name. In other
words instead of setting strTableName in the function, call the function
like this:
>
> DeleteTableLink "tblDebiteurAlgemeen"
>
> Don't forget to comment out the line
> strTableName = "tblDebiteurAlgemeen"
>
> Neal
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Pedro Janssen
> Sent: Sunday, June 12, 2005 5:51 PM
> To: AccessD at databaseadvisors.com
> Subject: [AccessD] invalid number of arguments
>
>
> Hello Group,
>
> i am using a function that Neil Kling provided me in the past.
> When running it from an expression i get an error:
>
> Invalid number of arguments.
>
> Who can help me with this
>
> Pedro Janssen
>
>
>
>
> Function DeleteTableLink(strTableName As String) As Boolean
> On Error GoTo Err_DeleteTableLink
>   Dim db As Database
>
>   strTableName = "tblDebiteurAlgemeen"
>
>   Set db = DBEngine(0)(0)
>   db.TableDefs.Delete strTableName
>   db.TableDefs.Refresh
>
>   DeleteTableLink = True
>
> Exit_DeleteTableLink:
> Exit Function
>
> Err_DeleteTableLink:
>   Select Case Err
>   Case 0    'insert Errors you wish to ignore here
>     Resume Next
>   Case 3265      'Item doesn't exist in collection
>         Resume Next
>   Case Else 'All other errors will trap
>     Beep
>     MsgBox Err.Number & "; " & Err.Description, , "Error in function
basObjectHandlers.DeleteTableLink"
>   Resume Exit_DeleteTableLink
>   End Select
>   Resume 0  'FOR TROUBLESHOOTING
> End Function
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From mmattys at rochester.rr.com  Mon Jun 13 14:41:24 2005
From: mmattys at rochester.rr.com (Michael R Mattys)
Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2005 15:41:24 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] invalid number of arguments
References: <002a01c56f98$c62e6a90$fac581d5@pedro>
	<017001c56fa4$4d7685e0$0202a8c0@default>
	<001901c57015$3ddf5dc0$fac581d5@pedro>
	<00c101c57019$b79955e0$0202a8c0@default>
	<002301c5704b$9b1b4180$fac581d5@pedro>
Message-ID: <00be01c5704f$e33b0370$0202a8c0@default>

Pedro,

Will the error go away if you set a reference to DAO 3.6
and then put Dim db As DAO.Database?
----

Michael R. Mattys
Mattys MapLib for Microsoft MapPoint
http://www.mattysconsulting.com



----- Original Message -----
From: "Pedro Janssen" <pedro at plex.nl>
To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving"
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Monday, June 13, 2005 3:10 PM
Subject: Re: [AccessD] invalid number of arguments


> Thanks for this code Michael,
>
> but i need to solve the invalid argument error anyway, because i have
other
> codes with the same problem.
>
> Pedro Janssen
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Michael R Mattys" <mmattys at rochester.rr.com>
> To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving"
> <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
> Sent: Monday, June 13, 2005 3:13 PM
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] invalid number of arguments
>
>
> > Pedro,
> >
> > Sorry. This is how I remove linked tables:
> > To make it so that you remove only specific tables
> > you modify it so that you end up with Neal's function.
> >
> > Function RemoveLinkedTbls()
> >     Dim db As DAO.Database, tdf As DAO.TableDef
> >     Set db = CurrentDb
> >     For Each tdf In db.TableDefs
> >         If tdf.Connect <> "" Then
> >             DoCmd.DeleteObject acTable, tdf.Name
> >         End If
> >     Next
> >     Set db = Nothing
> > End Function
> > ----
> >
> > Michael R. Mattys
> > Mattys MapLib for Microsoft MapPoint
> > http://www.mattysconsulting.com
> >
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Pedro Janssen" <pedro at plex.nl>
> > To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving"
> > <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
> > Sent: Monday, June 13, 2005 8:41 AM
> > Subject: Re: [AccessD] invalid number of arguments
> >
> >
> > > Hello Michael,
> > >
> > > when using db.TableDefs(strTableName).Delete it gives an
compile-error:
> > > Can't find methode or member.
> > >
> > > Any other ideas.
> > >
> > > Pedro Janssen
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Michael R Mattys" <mmattys at rochester.rr.com>
> > > To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving"
> > > <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
> > > Sent: Monday, June 13, 2005 1:13 AM
> > > Subject: Re: [AccessD] invalid number of arguments
> > >
> > >
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: "Pedro Janssen" <pedro at plex.nl>
> > > > To: <AccessD at databaseadvisors.com>
> > > > Sent: Sunday, June 12, 2005 5:50 PM
> > > > Subject: [AccessD] invalid number of arguments
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Hello Group,
> > > >
> > > > i am using a function that Neil Kling provided me in the past.
> > > > When running it from an expression i get an error:
> > > >
> > > > Invalid number of arguments.
> > > >
> > > > Who can help me with this
> > > >
> > > > ------
> > > >
> > > > Pedro,
> > > >
> > > > It should be
> > > >
> > > > db.TableDefs(strTableName).Delete
> > > >
> > > > ----
> > > >
> > > > Michael R. Mattys
> > > > Mattys MapLib for Microsoft MapPoint
> > > > http://www.mattysconsulting.com
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From mikedorism at verizon.net  Mon Jun 13 14:45:46 2005
From: mikedorism at verizon.net (Mike & Doris Manning)
Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2005 15:45:46 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] invalid number of arguments
In-Reply-To: <002901c5704c$2a9720e0$fac581d5@pedro>
Message-ID: <001a01c57050$7e6d15e0$2f01a8c0@hargrove.internal>

What are you passing in as the value of "tblDebiteurAlgemeen"?

Doris Manning
Database Administrator
Hargrove Inc.
www.hargroveinc.com


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Pedro Janssen
Sent: Monday, June 13, 2005 3:15 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] invalid number of arguments


Hello Neal,

i now have tried:

Function DeleteTableLink(tblDebiteurAlgemeen As String) As Boolean On Error
GoTo Err_DeleteTableLink
  Dim db As Database

  Set db = DBEngine(0)(0)
  db.TableDefs.Delete (tblDebiteurAlgemeen)
  db.TableDefs.Refresh

  DeleteTableLink = True

Exit_DeleteTableLink:

etc.etc.etc


but i still have the error.

Anyone any ideas.

Pedro



----- Original Message -----
From: "Neal Kling" <nkling at co.montgomery.ny.us>
To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving"
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Monday, June 13, 2005 2:52 PM
Subject: RE: [AccessD] invalid number of arguments


> I see you're setting the table variable right in the function. But the
function it's self is still expecting you to pass a table name. I suspect
this may be where you are having a problem. Either redeclare the function
without the strTableName parameter, or pass it the table name. In other
words instead of setting strTableName in the function, call the function
like this:
>
> DeleteTableLink "tblDebiteurAlgemeen"
>
> Don't forget to comment out the line
> strTableName = "tblDebiteurAlgemeen"
>
> Neal
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Pedro 
> Janssen
> Sent: Sunday, June 12, 2005 5:51 PM
> To: AccessD at databaseadvisors.com
> Subject: [AccessD] invalid number of arguments
>
>
> Hello Group,
>
> i am using a function that Neil Kling provided me in the past. When 
> running it from an expression i get an error:
>
> Invalid number of arguments.
>
> Who can help me with this
>
> Pedro Janssen
>
>
>
>
> Function DeleteTableLink(strTableName As String) As Boolean On Error 
> GoTo Err_DeleteTableLink
>   Dim db As Database
>
>   strTableName = "tblDebiteurAlgemeen"
>
>   Set db = DBEngine(0)(0)
>   db.TableDefs.Delete strTableName
>   db.TableDefs.Refresh
>
>   DeleteTableLink = True
>
> Exit_DeleteTableLink:
> Exit Function
>
> Err_DeleteTableLink:
>   Select Case Err
>   Case 0    'insert Errors you wish to ignore here
>     Resume Next
>   Case 3265      'Item doesn't exist in collection
>         Resume Next
>   Case Else 'All other errors will trap
>     Beep
>     MsgBox Err.Number & "; " & Err.Description, , "Error in function
basObjectHandlers.DeleteTableLink"
>   Resume Exit_DeleteTableLink
>   End Select
>   Resume 0  'FOR TROUBLESHOOTING
> End Function
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From nkling at co.montgomery.ny.us  Mon Jun 13 14:49:54 2005
From: nkling at co.montgomery.ny.us (Neal Kling)
Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2005 15:49:54 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] invalid number of arguments
Message-ID: <30BC111F638EB54082001A7E7282FE41114D45@elmo.co.montgomery.ny.us>

Pedro,

This line

Function DeleteTableLink(tblDebiteurAlgemeen As String) As Boolean

is telling the function that it is going to expect you to pass it a string parameter of the name of the table you want to delete.

Where you are calling the function it would have to done like this:
DeleteTableLink "tblDebiteurAlgemeen"

That way the function knows which table to delete. If this is causing you too many problems you can get rid of the requirement for that parameter and declare the function like this:

Function DeleteTableLink() as Boolean

Then you would need to specify which table in the function like this

db.TableDefs.Delete "tblDebiteurAlgemeen"

The problem is now you have a function that will only do one thing. It won't be reusable.

Neal

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Sent: Monday, June 13, 2005 3:15 PM
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Subject: Re: [AccessD] invalid number of arguments


Hello Neal,

i now have tried:

Function DeleteTableLink(tblDebiteurAlgemeen As String) As Boolean
On Error GoTo Err_DeleteTableLink
  Dim db As Database

  Set db = DBEngine(0)(0)
  db.TableDefs.Delete (tblDebiteurAlgemeen)
  db.TableDefs.Refresh

  DeleteTableLink = True

Exit_DeleteTableLink:

etc.etc.etc


but i still have the error.

Anyone any ideas.

Pedro



----- Original Message -----
From: "Neal Kling" <nkling at co.montgomery.ny.us>
To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving"
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Monday, June 13, 2005 2:52 PM
Subject: RE: [AccessD] invalid number of arguments


> I see you're setting the table variable right in the function. But the
function it's self is still expecting you to pass a table name. I suspect
this may be where you are having a problem. Either redeclare the function
without the strTableName parameter, or pass it the table name. In other
words instead of setting strTableName in the function, call the function
like this:
>
> DeleteTableLink "tblDebiteurAlgemeen"
>
> Don't forget to comment out the line
> strTableName = "tblDebiteurAlgemeen"
>
> Neal
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Pedro Janssen
> Sent: Sunday, June 12, 2005 5:51 PM
> To: AccessD at databaseadvisors.com
> Subject: [AccessD] invalid number of arguments
>
>
> Hello Group,
>
> i am using a function that Neil Kling provided me in the past.
> When running it from an expression i get an error:
>
> Invalid number of arguments.
>
> Who can help me with this
>
> Pedro Janssen
>
>
>
>
> Function DeleteTableLink(strTableName As String) As Boolean
> On Error GoTo Err_DeleteTableLink
>   Dim db As Database
>
>   strTableName = "tblDebiteurAlgemeen"
>
>   Set db = DBEngine(0)(0)
>   db.TableDefs.Delete strTableName
>   db.TableDefs.Refresh
>
>   DeleteTableLink = True
>
> Exit_DeleteTableLink:
> Exit Function
>
> Err_DeleteTableLink:
>   Select Case Err
>   Case 0    'insert Errors you wish to ignore here
>     Resume Next
>   Case 3265      'Item doesn't exist in collection
>         Resume Next
>   Case Else 'All other errors will trap
>     Beep
>     MsgBox Err.Number & "; " & Err.Description, , "Error in function
basObjectHandlers.DeleteTableLink"
>   Resume Exit_DeleteTableLink
>   End Select
>   Resume 0  'FOR TROUBLESHOOTING
> End Function
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From nkling at co.montgomery.ny.us  Mon Jun 13 14:51:11 2005
From: nkling at co.montgomery.ny.us (Neal Kling)
Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2005 15:51:11 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] invalid number of arguments
Message-ID: <30BC111F638EB54082001A7E7282FE4107F3D6@elmo.co.montgomery.ny.us>

I believe he's passing nothing, which of course results in the missing parameter. Perhaps you can explain this better than I.

Neal

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Manning
Sent: Monday, June 13, 2005 3:46 PM
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Subject: RE: [AccessD] invalid number of arguments


What are you passing in as the value of "tblDebiteurAlgemeen"?

Doris Manning
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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Pedro Janssen
Sent: Monday, June 13, 2005 3:15 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] invalid number of arguments


Hello Neal,

i now have tried:

Function DeleteTableLink(tblDebiteurAlgemeen As String) As Boolean On Error
GoTo Err_DeleteTableLink
  Dim db As Database

  Set db = DBEngine(0)(0)
  db.TableDefs.Delete (tblDebiteurAlgemeen)
  db.TableDefs.Refresh

  DeleteTableLink = True

Exit_DeleteTableLink:

etc.etc.etc


but i still have the error.

Anyone any ideas.

Pedro



----- Original Message -----
From: "Neal Kling" <nkling at co.montgomery.ny.us>
To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving"
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Monday, June 13, 2005 2:52 PM
Subject: RE: [AccessD] invalid number of arguments


> I see you're setting the table variable right in the function. But the
function it's self is still expecting you to pass a table name. I suspect
this may be where you are having a problem. Either redeclare the function
without the strTableName parameter, or pass it the table name. In other
words instead of setting strTableName in the function, call the function
like this:
>
> DeleteTableLink "tblDebiteurAlgemeen"
>
> Don't forget to comment out the line
> strTableName = "tblDebiteurAlgemeen"
>
> Neal
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Pedro 
> Janssen
> Sent: Sunday, June 12, 2005 5:51 PM
> To: AccessD at databaseadvisors.com
> Subject: [AccessD] invalid number of arguments
>
>
> Hello Group,
>
> i am using a function that Neil Kling provided me in the past. When 
> running it from an expression i get an error:
>
> Invalid number of arguments.
>
> Who can help me with this
>
> Pedro Janssen
>
>
>
>
> Function DeleteTableLink(strTableName As String) As Boolean On Error 
> GoTo Err_DeleteTableLink
>   Dim db As Database
>
>   strTableName = "tblDebiteurAlgemeen"
>
>   Set db = DBEngine(0)(0)
>   db.TableDefs.Delete strTableName
>   db.TableDefs.Refresh
>
>   DeleteTableLink = True
>
> Exit_DeleteTableLink:
> Exit Function
>
> Err_DeleteTableLink:
>   Select Case Err
>   Case 0    'insert Errors you wish to ignore here
>     Resume Next
>   Case 3265      'Item doesn't exist in collection
>         Resume Next
>   Case Else 'All other errors will trap
>     Beep
>     MsgBox Err.Number & "; " & Err.Description, , "Error in function
basObjectHandlers.DeleteTableLink"
>   Resume Exit_DeleteTableLink
>   End Select
>   Resume 0  'FOR TROUBLESHOOTING
> End Function
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From marcus at tsstech.com  Mon Jun 13 15:15:24 2005
From: marcus at tsstech.com (Scott Marcus)
Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2005 16:15:24 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Visio data modeling: was Friday humour
Message-ID: <B7B1803D6973C84F97D412AFCDA8EA7D023BC104@2003exchg.TSS.AD>

This requires the enterprise architect version of Visual Studio 2003. 

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Sent: Monday, June 13, 2005 10:41 AM
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Subject: RE: [AccessD] Friday humour


Good Morning Everyone,

Some one told me I can create a visio document and then from visio
create my SQL tables.  Does anyone know who to do this?  Does it also
work for MS Access?  Can I also go from SQL or Access and have my table
documented in Visio?

 

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From mikedorism at verizon.net  Mon Jun 13 15:44:18 2005
From: mikedorism at verizon.net (Mike & Doris Manning)
Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2005 16:44:18 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Visio data modeling: was Friday humour
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Message-ID: <001b01c57058$abbc3b40$2f01a8c0@hargrove.internal>

No it doesn't.  Visio Professional 2002 and 2003 have the same capabilities.
Visio uses ODBC to link directly to the databases involved.

Doris Manning
Database Administrator
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Sent: Monday, June 13, 2005 4:15 PM
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Subject: RE: [AccessD] Visio data modeling: was Friday humour


This requires the enterprise architect version of Visual Studio 2003. 

-----Original Message-----
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Sent: Monday, June 13, 2005 10:41 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Friday humour


Good Morning Everyone,

Some one told me I can create a visio document and then from visio create my
SQL tables.  Does anyone know who to do this?  Does it also work for MS
Access?  Can I also go from SQL or Access and have my table documented in
Visio?

 

Thanks!

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From marcus at tsstech.com  Mon Jun 13 15:54:39 2005
From: marcus at tsstech.com (Scott Marcus)
Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2005 16:54:39 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Visio data modeling: was Friday humour
Message-ID: <B7B1803D6973C84F97D412AFCDA8EA7D023BC10E@2003exchg.TSS.AD>

So you have Visio 2003 Pro? I have it and you cannot generate the
database. But the 2003 version called enterprise architect does (which I
also have).

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Manning
Sent: Monday, June 13, 2005 4:44 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Visio data modeling: was Friday humour

No it doesn't.  Visio Professional 2002 and 2003 have the same
capabilities.
Visio uses ODBC to link directly to the databases involved.

Doris Manning
Database Administrator
Hargrove Inc.
www.hargroveinc.com


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[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Scott Marcus
Sent: Monday, June 13, 2005 4:15 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Visio data modeling: was Friday humour


This requires the enterprise architect version of Visual Studio 2003. 

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Dale Kalsow
Sent: Monday, June 13, 2005 10:41 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Friday humour


Good Morning Everyone,

Some one told me I can create a visio document and then from visio
create my
SQL tables.  Does anyone know who to do this?  Does it also work for MS
Access?  Can I also go from SQL or Access and have my table documented
in
Visio?

 

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From cfoust at infostatsystems.com  Mon Jun 13 16:02:05 2005
From: cfoust at infostatsystems.com (Charlotte Foust)
Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2005 14:02:05 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Visio data modeling: was Friday humour
Message-ID: <E61FC1D4B1918244905B113C680BEA86873A9C@infoserver01.infostat.local>

The enterprise edition of Visio is required to *generate* database
structures from a Visio database diagram.  The Pro version will reverse
engineer the structure into a diagram.  The forward engineering was
removed from the Pro version after Microsoft acquired the product.

Charlotte Foust


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Sent: Monday, June 13, 2005 1:44 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Visio data modeling: was Friday humour


No it doesn't.  Visio Professional 2002 and 2003 have the same
capabilities. Visio uses ODBC to link directly to the databases
involved.

Doris Manning
Database Administrator
Hargrove Inc.
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Subject: RE: [AccessD] Visio data modeling: was Friday humour


This requires the enterprise architect version of Visual Studio 2003. 

-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Dale Kalsow
Sent: Monday, June 13, 2005 10:41 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Friday humour


Good Morning Everyone,

Some one told me I can create a visio document and then from visio
create my SQL tables.  Does anyone know who to do this?  Does it also
work for MS Access?  Can I also go from SQL or Access and have my table
documented in Visio?

 

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From Robert at servicexp.com  Mon Jun 13 18:56:21 2005
From: Robert at servicexp.com (Robert Gracie)
Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2005 19:56:21 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Detecting Database Connection Type?
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 How can one check the type of connection to the back end data, making sure
the connection is not wireless?

Robert



From mmattys at rochester.rr.com  Mon Jun 13 19:15:50 2005
From: mmattys at rochester.rr.com (Michael R Mattys)
Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2005 20:15:50 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Detecting Database Connection Type?
References: <20050613235623.6E4FB41468@mail01.powweb.com>
Message-ID: <019a01c57076$3ae95830$0202a8c0@default>

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Sent: Monday, June 13, 2005 7:56 PM
Subject: [AccessD] Detecting Database Connection Type?


>
>  How can one check the type of connection to the back end data, making
sure
> the connection is not wireless?

Robert,

What prompted your question?
Is it not simply a matter of connection exists
verus connection does not exist?

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From Robert at servicexp.com  Mon Jun 13 19:38:03 2005
From: Robert at servicexp.com (Robert Gracie)
Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2005 20:38:03 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Detecting Database Connection Type?
In-Reply-To: <019a01c57076$3ae95830$0202a8c0@default>
Message-ID: <20050614003805.CF92C4154D@mail01.powweb.com>

Michael,
 The problem is a little deeper that that. We have several laptop users,
each with wireless capabilities that automatically connect to the LAN. I
have instructed them, (sigh) time and time again, that they must plug into
the network, via a LAN jack before logging in the program. I'm at the point
now where I need to come up with a solution that works to prevent a wireless
connection to this one program. All laptop users are running Win XP.

I sure hope there is a "Coded" solution, as I don't want to convert this
program to SQL....

I hope this helps...

Robert

 

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Subject: [AccessD] Detecting Database Connection Type?


>
>  How can one check the type of connection to the back end data, making
sure
> the connection is not wireless?

Robert,

What prompted your question?
Is it not simply a matter of connection exists verus connection does not
exist?

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From mmattys at rochester.rr.com  Mon Jun 13 20:18:50 2005
From: mmattys at rochester.rr.com (Michael R Mattys)
Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2005 21:18:50 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Detecting Database Connection Type?
References: <20050614003805.CF92C4154D@mail01.powweb.com>
Message-ID: <01ad01c5707f$0c39cfc0$0202a8c0@default>

----- Original Message -----
From: "Robert Gracie" <Robert at servicexp.com>
To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'"
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Sent: Monday, June 13, 2005 8:38 PM
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Detecting Database Connection Type?


> Michael,
>  The problem is a little deeper that that. We have several laptop users,
> each with wireless capabilities that automatically connect to the LAN. I
> have instructed them, (sigh) time and time again, that they must plug into
> the network, via a LAN jack before logging in the program. I'm at the
point
> now where I need to come up with a solution that works to prevent a
wireless
> connection to this one program. All laptop users are running Win XP.
>
> I sure hope there is a "Coded" solution, as I don't want to convert this
> program to SQL....
>
> I hope this helps...
>

Robert,

Wow. Well, this is going to be hit or miss.
I figure it must be WMI related. So, I tried a search
on Google for [ wmi wireless +dim ]. 37 hits.

I saw
"How to Detect Network Connection"
"Enable / Disable 802.1x with some script"
"Disabling Wireless Driver"
"WMI MSNdis_80211_ReceivedSignalStrength"

That MSNdis_80211 could be another search term.

I'm thinking the front-end will need to execute code before
connecting that will disable (well, how would you say it?)
wireless connections while the FE is open.
Good luck to you :)
I may need whatever your solution is someday!

----

Michael R. Mattys
Mattys MapLib for Microsoft MapPoint
http://www.mattysconsulting.com




From martyconnelly at shaw.ca  Mon Jun 13 20:24:17 2005
From: martyconnelly at shaw.ca (MartyConnelly)
Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2005 18:24:17 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Automating - IE6 - File Save As -- Marty
References: <0F3AFAE449DD4A40BED8B6C4A97ABF5B0298AABE@MSG-MB3.icent.ic.gc.ca>
Message-ID: <42AE31C1.7010103@shaw.ca>

Ah you want to save the images as well , doing a complete "saveas" will 
save multiple html files and directories, so you might want a single 
archive .mht file.
The reason the "saveas" only allows saves to a text based html  file is 
a security feature. Otherwise the little darlings could save binary 
excutables
onto your disk.
However if you want to risk it, this replacement code will work, 
sendkeys has it own flaws.
It may only work if your browser allows scripting of unsafe ActiveX
Works for me IE 6.01 with Medium security and MS scripting installed

To get an mht archive file you will have to change code to tab around 
with sendkeys.

Dim X As Object
Set X = CreateObject("WScript.Shell")
  X.SendKeys ("%f") ' select IE File Menu
  X.SendKeys ("a") 'selects save as menu
  X.SendKeys ("{del}") 'delete filename
  X.SendKeys ("c:\temp\mycompletehtml") 'double slashes may be required 
if multi folder path
  X.SendKeys ("{Tab}")
  X.SendKeys ("{Tab}") 'get to save button
  X.SendKeys ("{ENTER}") ' comment this out to see what happens on screen

Drawbridge, Jack: #CIO - BPI wrote:

>Marty
>
>Thanks for info. It's close to what I'm looking for. 
>Have not seen the ".queryCommandEnabled" or ".execCommand"
>
>In your code
>    'or alternate method that security may clobber, saves everthing with 
>      fileopen box used
>     -With objExplorer.Document
>       -If .queryCommandEnabled("saveAs") Then .execCommand "saveAs", False, 
>         "C:\temp\myurl.htm"
>      -End With
> I'm trying to actually use File SaveAs Webpage, Complete. If you manually do a File SaveAs in Internet explorer, you'll see other options than (htm,html).
>Your technique gives me (htm, html). Can you see any means of supplying/gettign other options?
>
>Thanks
>jack
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of MartyConnelly
>Sent: Friday, June 10, 2005 6:40 PM
>To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
>Subject: Re: [AccessD] Automating - IE6 - File Save As -- Marty
>
>
>You maynot be able to do this for security reasons on second method.
>Ran this okay from WinXP SP2, Access97, IE6.0.2900  xpsp2 patches
>
>Here are two ways.
>
>'This gets around security limitations
>'will only save between <body> </body> tags
>CreateObject("Scripting.FileSystemObject").OpenTextFile("C:\temp\myurlsaved.htm", 
>2, True).Write _
>   objExplorer.Document.Body.innerHTML
>
>'or alternate method that security may clobber, saves everthing with 
>fileopen box used
>With objExplorer.Document
>  If .queryCommandEnabled("saveAs") Then .execCommand "saveAs", False, 
>"C:\temp\myurl.htm"
> End With
>
>Anywho here is some rough test code, that works both ways.
>You can throw out all the commented objdocument code at bottom.
>
>
>Sub testIESave(strpassHTML As String)
>'------------------
>'testIESave "http://www.Viescas.com/"
>Dim objExplorer As Object
>Dim objDocument As Object
>Dim strComputer As String
>
>Dim strReturn As String
>
>Set objExplorer = CreateObject("InternetExplorer.Application")
>
>'objExplorer.navigate "about:blank"
>objExplorer.navigate strpassHTML
>objExplorer.Toolbar = 1 'or 0 to turnoff toolbar turned off maynot save 
>all html source
>objExplorer.StatusBar = 0
>objExplorer.Width = 800
>objExplorer.Height = 570
>objExplorer.Left = 0
>objExplorer.Top = 0
>objExplorer.Visible = 1
>'dont't need to navigate to file or http site
>'just drop html string in document object
>'objExplorer.Navigate "file://c:\temp\test.html"
>'objExplorer.Navigate "http://www.Viescas.com/"
>'objExplorer.Navigate "http://checkip.dyndns.org/"
>
>Do While (objExplorer.Busy)
>Loop
>Dim webtx As String
>Dim strHTML As String
>'will only save between <body> </body> tags
>CreateObject("Scripting.FileSystemObject").OpenTextFile("C:\temp\myurlsmall.htm", 
>2, True).Write _
>   objExplorer.Document.Body.innerHTML
>'alternate method security may clobber saves everything
>With objExplorer.Document
>  If .queryCommandEnabled("saveAs") Then .execCommand "saveAs", False, 
>"C:\temp\myurl.htm"
> End With
> 
>'Set objDocument = objExplorer.Document
>'objDocument.Open
>'objDocument.writeln "<html><head><title>My Continuous 
>Pictures</title></head>"
>'you probably don't need all this but you could throw in some css
>'objDocument.writeln "<body bgcolor='red';" & _
>'    " {   background-attachment: fixed; background-position: 97% 
>bottom; " & _
>'      "  background-image= 'url(logoBackGround.gif)';background-repeat: 
>no-repeat;" & _
>'       " padding: 5px;font-family='Georgia';font-size: 80%;} >"
>   
>'objDocument.writeln "<table width='100%'>"
>'objDocument.writeln "<tr>"
>'objDocument.writeln "<td width='20%'><b>Pictures</b></td>"
>'objDocument.writeln "</tr>"
>'objDocument.writeln "</table>"
>
>'objDocument.writeln "<h3>Method #2:</h3><img src = ""C:\Access 
>files\CandaceTripp\picture\shakes.bmp"" Width = ""150"" Height = ""75"" 
>alt = ""Random Image #4"" />"
>
>'objDocument.writeln strpassHTML
>'objDocument.writeln "</body></html>"
>'objDocument.Write()
>'objDocument.Close
>'MsgBox "finished"
>Set objExplorer = Nothing
>Set objDocument = Nothing
>
>End Sub
>
>
>Drawbridge, Jack: #CIO - BPI wrote:
>
>  
>
>>Have had no responses with original post. I believe it is a question of automating IE, and how to get to CommonDialog in order to do the File Save As.
>>
>>IE does a fantastic job of removing relative links and downloading a clean set of files when using the File Save As webpage complete option. I do not want to do the File saves manually. There must be a means to automate this in VBA???
>>
>>Any advice/help on this would be greatly appreciated.
>>
>>Thanks,
>>
>>jack
>>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>>[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Drawbridge,
>>Jack: #CIO - BPI
>>Sent: Thursday, June 2, 2005 3:01 PM
>>To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
>>Subject: [AccessD] A2K talking to IE6 - File Save As
>>
>>
>>Looking for help/advice or sample code to open IE6 from code in A2K. Am interested in how to do a File| Save As Webpage, Complete.
>>We have a database of 60000 companies and want to put extracts of selected 100-500 companies (html and graphics etc) onto a CD for use with Offline Browser.
>>
>>Can not figure out how to get to IE6 File | Save As.
>>
>>I have some code to open a page with IE browser and save all the links on the page.
>>
>>Any help would be appreciated.
>>
>>TIA 
>>
>>jack
>>
>>'---- CODE to GET the Links from a given page ----
>>'---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>' Procedure : GetLinks
>>' DateTime  : 2005-06-02 14:19
>>' Author    :
>>' Purpose   : get all links from a named webpage URL
>>'---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>'
>>Sub GetLinks()
>>
>>' ** need to set a reference to
>>' ** Microsoft Internet Controls
>>
>>   Dim IeApp As InternetExplorer
>>   Dim sURL As String
>>   Dim IeDoc As Object
>>   Dim i As Long
>>   
>>  'Create new instance of IE
>>   Set IeApp = New InternetExplorer
>>   
>>   'May wish to make IeApp visible
>>   'apparently some things don't work
>>   'unless it's visible
>>   IeApp.Visible = False
>>   
>>   'define the page to open
>>   sURL = "www.diligens.com"
>>   
>>   'navigate to the page based on URL
>>   IeApp.Navigate sURL
>>  
>>   'Pause until the webpage is completely loaded
>>   Do
>>   Loop Until IeApp.ReadyState = READYSTATE_COMPLETE
>>   
>>   'Create instance of Document object
>>   Set IeDoc = IeApp.Document
>> 
>>   'Loop through the document's links collection.
>>   For i = 0 To IeDoc.links.Length - 1
>>       Debug.Print IeDoc.links(i).href
>>   Next i
>>   
>>   'Clean up
>>   Set IeApp = Nothing
>>   Set IeDoc = Nothing
>>End Sub
>> 
>>
>>    
>>
>
>  
>

-- 
Marty Connelly
Victoria, B.C.
Canada





From martyconnelly at shaw.ca  Mon Jun 13 20:37:34 2005
From: martyconnelly at shaw.ca (MartyConnelly)
Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2005 18:37:34 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Visio data modeling: was Friday humour
References: <B7B1803D6973C84F97D412AFCDA8EA7D023BC104@2003exchg.TSS.AD>
Message-ID: <42AE34DE.9050700@shaw.ca>

You could also have a look at various Case Tools. Vast price range from 
a couple of $100 to many thousands.
This is one I prefer Enterprise Architect ,I use to reverse engineer 
Access mdb's, Does Oracle SQL Server and most ODBC
accessible databases, It has a 30 day trial.
Does Data modeling, Forward Database Engineering to DDL and Reverse 
Database Engineering from ODBC
Just point to correct ODBC connection and will turn out an ER diagram, 
with table documentation.

http://www.sparxsystems.com.au/ea.htm

Scott Marcus wrote:

>This requires the enterprise architect version of Visual Studio 2003. 
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Dale Kalsow
>Sent: Monday, June 13, 2005 10:41 AM
>To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
>Subject: RE: [AccessD] Friday humour
>
>
>Good Morning Everyone,
>
>Some one told me I can create a visio document and then from visio
>create my SQL tables.  Does anyone know who to do this?  Does it also
>work for MS Access?  Can I also go from SQL or Access and have my table
>documented in Visio?
>
> 
>
>Thanks!
>
>Dale
>
> 
>
>		
>---------------------------------
>Discover Yahoo!
> Find restaurants, movies, travel & more fun for the weekend. Check it
>out!
>  
>

-- 
Marty Connelly
Victoria, B.C.
Canada





From KP at sdsonline.net  Mon Jun 13 21:01:25 2005
From: KP at sdsonline.net (Kath Pelletti)
Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2005 12:01:25 +1000
Subject: [AccessD]Error loading picture
References: <004601c56f1f$6e8c6090$6601a8c0@user> <42ACA5B2.6090104@shaw.ca>
Message-ID: <006901c57084$f9236e90$6601a8c0@user>

Just change the filename string or just the extension part via UCase or 
LCase
when you pass to the Picture property of the Image control.
Great idea.


You can also download and install, if something has gone wrong with your 
filters.
Office File Converter Pack   OCONVPCK.EXE
Will try.

Kath

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: MartyConnelly 
  To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving 
  Sent: Monday, June 13, 2005 7:14 AM
  Subject: Re: [AccessD]Error loading picture


  Actually it is a bit more bizarre
  You don't have to change the actual physical filename extension case.

  Just change the filename string or just the extension part via UCase or 
  LCase
  when you pass to the Picture property of the Image control.

  lower case bypasses Office Graphics filters, something to do with 
  metafiles in the image.
  If the file extension is in uppercase  then the Office Graphicsfilters 
  will be used to load the image.

  You can also download and install, if something has gone wrong with your 
  filters.

  Office File Converter Pack   OCONVPCK.EXE
  This download provides file converters and image filters for Microsoft 
  Office programs, from Microsoft Office 97 to Microsoft Office 2003.
  It depends on what version of office is installed.

  http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyID=cf196df0-70e5-4595-8a98-370278f40c57&DisplayLang=en

  Info here
  http://office.microsoft.com/en-us/assistance/HA011513581033.aspx

  If you use Lebans method (a bit convoluted) to get .jpeg extensions make 
  this change in Function fLoadPicture
   
  Select Case right$(strfName, 3)

      Case "bmp", "dib", "Gif", "emf", "Wmf", "ico", "cur", "jpg", "peg"

  I gave up using jpegs for other reasons, I was getting microfilm images
  and so used djvu format as it can be up to 10 times smaller on black and 
  white text type images
  and has a text searchable metafile plugins. Some University libraries 
  are using for historical
  archive display on the web. Things like old manuscripts and folios.

  http://www.djvuzone.org/wid/index.html
  http://www.djvuzone.org/

  Kath Pelletti wrote:

  >Re: this problem:
  >
  >  
  >
  >>When the user opens a form which attempts to load a .jpg or .gif picture the system come up with "...the database doesn't support the format of 
  >>'E:\Database\Photos\Peru.jpg' so it can't load the picture.
  >>    
  >>
  >
  >I found a bizarre solution in a line on the Lebans website to the effect that if the file extension is upper case it is treated differently by Access to it being in lower case. Disbelieving, I tried it and it works. If I change the file extension of the 350 photos which this system uses (which I can do with one DOS command) from .jpg to .JPG then Access manages to load them correctly.
  >
  >It's a bit of a bizarre solution but having uninstalled and re-installed the graphics filters for Office twice, then doing a complete re-installation of Office I am relieved to find any kind of a simple solution. 
  >
  >BTW - Marty - I did spend some tine on this:  http://www.lebans.com/loadjpeg?gif.htm but found that it was difficult to follow. Have you used it?  
  >
  >Kath
  >
  >______________________________________________
  >Kath Pelletti
  >Software Design & Solutions Pty Ltd.
  >Ph: 9505-6714
  >Fax: 9505-6430
  >KP at SDSOnline.net
  >  
  >

  -- 
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  Victoria, B.C.
  Canada



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From D.Dick at uws.edu.au  Mon Jun 13 21:28:16 2005
From: D.Dick at uws.edu.au (Darren Dick)
Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2005 12:28:16 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] A2003:Connection Method failing
Message-ID: <2FDE83AF1A69C84796CBD13788DDA8833FEECD@BONHAM.AD.UWS.EDU.AU>

Hello all
 
(Cross Posted to Sue and Dmitri's list)
 
The code below used to work - now it doesn't
Our enterprise has moved to Exchange - does that matter?
 
The error is 
ERR.Number =  -2147024769 
ERR.Description = Method 'Connection' of object '_CurrentProject' failed

Any suggestions?
 
Code snip below
 

    Dim rs As Object
    Dim con As Object

    
    Dim objOutlook As Outlook.Application
    Dim objAppt As Outlook.AppointmentItem
    Dim objRecurPattern As Outlook.RecurrencePattern
        
    Set objOutlook = CreateObject("Outlook.Application")
    Set objAppt = objOutlook.CreateItem(olAppointmentItem)
    
    Set rs = CreateObject("ADODB.Recordset")
    Set con = Application.CurrentProject.Connection
'<=============Error here
 


From KP at sdsonline.net  Tue Jun 14 03:33:16 2005
From: KP at sdsonline.net (Kath Pelletti)
Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2005 18:33:16 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] Australia - find nearest location
References: <000a01c56d52$78a71990$6601a8c0@user>
Message-ID: <001c01c570bb$b6e603d0$6601a8c0@user>

What's happening? I posted this last week - and it just appeared on the list now....
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Kath Pelletti 
  To: AccessD at databaseadvisors.com 
  Sent: Friday, June 10, 2005 10:22 AM
  Subject: [AccessD] Australia - find nearest location


  Hi all - Just wondering whether there happens to be anyone on list who may already have done this - 

  I'm writing a new system for a training company and they want add a geographic search capability - ie. they would like to enter a suburb or postcode and the system displays will show the courses which run closest to them geographically.

  Any tips? Or if anyone has done this at all - can you tell me what your approach was?

  Thanks - rgds

  ______________________________________________
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  Software Design & Solutions Pty Ltd.
  Ph: 9505-6714
  Fax: 9505-6430
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From Chris.Foote at uk.thalesgroup.com  Tue Jun 14 03:46:59 2005
From: Chris.Foote at uk.thalesgroup.com (Foote, Chris)
Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2005 09:46:59 +0100
Subject: [AccessD] Australia - find nearest location
Message-ID: <97CF276BD8C6D4119C4B00508BB18DE709E0C79C@ntscxch1.int.rdel.co.uk>

Hi Kath!

Problem may be your end somewhere - I got your original post on Fri 10th
June at 01:24 UK British Summer Time (GMT+1).

There have been at least three replies - did you get them?

Regards
Chris Foote - UK

> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of 
> Kath Pelletti
> Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2005 9:33 AM
> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] Australia - find nearest location
> 
> 
> What's happening? I posted this last week - and it just 
> appeared on the list now....
>   ----- Original Message ----- 
>   From: Kath Pelletti 
>   To: AccessD at databaseadvisors.com 
>   Sent: Friday, June 10, 2005 10:22 AM
>   Subject: [AccessD] Australia - find nearest location
> 
> 
>   Hi all - Just wondering whether there happens to be anyone 
> on list who may already have done this - 
> 
>   I'm writing a new system for a training company and they 
> want add a geographic search capability - ie. they would like 
> to enter a suburb or postcode and the system displays will 
> show the courses which run closest to them geographically.
> 
>   Any tips? Or if anyone has done this at all - can you tell 
> me what your approach was?
> 
>   Thanks - rgds
> 
>   ______________________________________________
>   Kath Pelletti
>   Software Design & Solutions Pty Ltd.
>   Ph: 9505-6714
>   Fax: 9505-6430
>   KP at SDSOnline.net
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From KP at sdsonline.net  Tue Jun 14 04:00:28 2005
From: KP at sdsonline.net (Kath Pelletti)
Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2005 19:00:28 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] Australia - find nearest location
References: <97CF276BD8C6D4119C4B00508BB18DE709E0C79C@ntscxch1.int.rdel.co.uk>
Message-ID: <003801c570bf$82e77b00$6601a8c0@user>

Hi Chris - I got one reply (other than one I also just received from Michael re: Map Point). 

If there were 3 then for some strange reason I didn't get them. I'll search the archive....

rgds
Kath
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Foote, Chris 
  To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' 
  Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2005 6:46 PM
  Subject: RE: [AccessD] Australia - find nearest location


  Hi Kath!

  Problem may be your end somewhere - I got your original post on Fri 10th
  June at 01:24 UK British Summer Time (GMT+1).

  There have been at least three replies - did you get them?

  Regards
  Chris Foote - UK

  > -----Original Message-----
  > From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
  > [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of 
  > Kath Pelletti
  > Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2005 9:33 AM
  > To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
  > Subject: Re: [AccessD] Australia - find nearest location
  > 
  > 
  > What's happening? I posted this last week - and it just 
  > appeared on the list now....
  >   ----- Original Message ----- 
  >   From: Kath Pelletti 
  >   To: AccessD at databaseadvisors.com 
  >   Sent: Friday, June 10, 2005 10:22 AM
  >   Subject: [AccessD] Australia - find nearest location
  > 
  > 
  >   Hi all - Just wondering whether there happens to be anyone 
  > on list who may already have done this - 
  > 
  >   I'm writing a new system for a training company and they 
  > want add a geographic search capability - ie. they would like 
  > to enter a suburb or postcode and the system displays will 
  > show the courses which run closest to them geographically.
  > 
  >   Any tips? Or if anyone has done this at all - can you tell 
  > me what your approach was?
  > 
  >   Thanks - rgds
  > 
  >   ______________________________________________
  >   Kath Pelletti
  >   Software Design & Solutions Pty Ltd.
  >   Ph: 9505-6714
  >   Fax: 9505-6430
  >   KP at SDSOnline.net
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From Chris.Foote at uk.thalesgroup.com  Tue Jun 14 04:03:05 2005
From: Chris.Foote at uk.thalesgroup.com (Foote, Chris)
Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2005 10:03:05 +0100
Subject: [AccessD] Australia - find nearest location
Message-ID: <97CF276BD8C6D4119C4B00508BB18DE709E0C79D@ntscxch1.int.rdel.co.uk>

Strange things happen sometimes!

I'll forward the replies to you off-list Kath!

Regards!
Chris Foote - UK

> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of 
> Kath Pelletti
> Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2005 10:00 AM
> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] Australia - find nearest location
> 
> 
> Hi Chris - I got one reply (other than one I also just 
> received from Michael re: Map Point). 
> 
> If there were 3 then for some strange reason I didn't get 
> them. I'll search the archive....
> 
> rgds
> Kath
>   ----- Original Message ----- 
>   From: Foote, Chris 
>   To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' 
>   Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2005 6:46 PM
>   Subject: RE: [AccessD] Australia - find nearest location
> 
> 
>   Hi Kath!
> 
>   Problem may be your end somewhere - I got your original 
> post on Fri 10th
>   June at 01:24 UK British Summer Time (GMT+1).
> 
>   There have been at least three replies - did you get them?
> 
>   Regards
>   Chris Foote - UK
> 
>   > -----Original Message-----
>   > From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>   > [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of 
>   > Kath Pelletti
>   > Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2005 9:33 AM
>   > To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
>   > Subject: Re: [AccessD] Australia - find nearest location
>   > 
>   > 
>   > What's happening? I posted this last week - and it just 
>   > appeared on the list now....
>   >   ----- Original Message ----- 
>   >   From: Kath Pelletti 
>   >   To: AccessD at databaseadvisors.com 
>   >   Sent: Friday, June 10, 2005 10:22 AM
>   >   Subject: [AccessD] Australia - find nearest location
>   > 
>   > 
>   >   Hi all - Just wondering whether there happens to be anyone 
>   > on list who may already have done this - 
>   > 
>   >   I'm writing a new system for a training company and they 
>   > want add a geographic search capability - ie. they would like 
>   > to enter a suburb or postcode and the system displays will 
>   > show the courses which run closest to them geographically.
>   > 
>   >   Any tips? Or if anyone has done this at all - can you tell 
>   > me what your approach was?
>   > 
>   >   Thanks - rgds
>   > 
>   >   ______________________________________________
>   >   Kath Pelletti
>   >   Software Design & Solutions Pty Ltd.
>   >   Ph: 9505-6714
>   >   Fax: 9505-6430
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From KP at sdsonline.net  Tue Jun 14 04:05:58 2005
From: KP at sdsonline.net (Kath Pelletti)
Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2005 19:05:58 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] Australia - find nearest location
References: <59A61174B1F5B54B97FD4ADDE71E7D010E4CA3@ddi-01.DDI.local>
Message-ID: <004401c570c0$47bce280$6601a8c0@user>

Thanks Michael - I think I need to learn about the way / rules that postcodes are allocated in my region - that way I may be able to create some sort of process. Just thought someone may have looked into that before.

Basically what I need to know is whether proximity in number = proximity in distance - I am guessing that it won't always be the case...

Kath


----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Michael Maddison 
  To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving 
  Sent: Friday, June 10, 2005 10:48 AM
  Subject: RE: [AccessD] Australia - find nearest location


  Never tried myself, but the discussions here recently on MapPoint might
  lead the way.

  cheers

  Michael M

  Hi all - Just wondering whether there happens to be anyone on list who
  may already have done this - 

  I'm writing a new system for a training company and they want add a
  geographic search capability - ie. they would like to enter a suburb or
  postcode and the system displays will show the courses which run closest
  to them geographically.

  Any tips? Or if anyone has done this at all - can you tell me what your
  approach was?

  Thanks - rgds

  ______________________________________________
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  Software Design & Solutions Pty Ltd.
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  Fax: 9505-6430
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From ssharkins at bellsouth.net  Tue Jun 14 08:25:44 2005
From: ssharkins at bellsouth.net (Susan Harkins)
Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2005 09:25:44 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Australia - find nearest location
In-Reply-To: <001c01c570bb$b6e603d0$6601a8c0@user>
Message-ID: <20050614132543.ULNQ13045.ibm69aec.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>

FWIW, list mail has been bad all week for me -- not just accessd, but all of
the lists I'm on -- I see responses long before the originals -- sometimes
as long as an entire day. Also, my own postings are taking forever to show
up. 

I don't think there's anything we can really do about it, except wait for it
to work itself out. 

Susan H. 

What's happening? I posted this last week - and it just appeared on the list
now....



From Paul.Rogers at SummitMedia.co.uk  Tue Jun 14 08:56:53 2005
From: Paul.Rogers at SummitMedia.co.uk (Paul Rodgers)
Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2005 14:56:53 +0100
Subject: [AccessD] Updating from Text to Number data type
Message-ID: <1FF4D9105232EB4DA1901BB7D175877E03F706@s003.wolds.summitmedia.co.uk>

I'm changing a one-table db over to a relational db.  I have retained old
fields with data so I can update the new look-up fields quickly. 
For example, Hostel records into UnitID via an update query to save doing
hundreds by hand. 

Only ... UnitID becomes a Number data type, and Access2K won't let the data
be moved across. 

Be most grateful for a nod in the right direction. 

All the best
paul 

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From Paul.Rogers at SummitMedia.co.uk  Tue Jun 14 09:01:41 2005
From: Paul.Rogers at SummitMedia.co.uk (Paul Rodgers)
Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2005 15:01:41 +0100
Subject: [AccessD] Web page to Access
Message-ID: <1FF4D9105232EB4DA1901BB7D175877E03F707@s003.wolds.summitmedia.co.uk>

The client asks: Can information in a table (Name, Address, City, etc) on a
webpage be fed (coded) automatically straight into Access 2k?  

I said, 'I don't think so.' But perhaps it is possible. Anyone any
experience, please?

All the best
paul 

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From ssharkins at bellsouth.net  Tue Jun 14 09:02:40 2005
From: ssharkins at bellsouth.net (Susan Harkins)
Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2005 10:02:40 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Web page to Access
In-Reply-To: <1FF4D9105232EB4DA1901BB7D175877E03F707@s003.wolds.summitmedia.co.uk>
Message-ID: <20050614140239.VCVL13045.ibm69aec.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>

I've asked about this and never found a direct way -- but using the Browser
control, you can browse right inside Access, which might make the transfer
process easier. Also, Drew has a cool API that forces an Access form to
"stay on top" even while you're in a browser -- which makes it easier to cut
and paste from the web page directly into your folder -- works well if
you're just gleaning small, infrequent pieces of data. 

Susan H. 

The client asks: Can information in a table (Name, Address, City, etc) on a
webpage be fed (coded) automatically straight into Access 2k?  

I said, 'I don't think so.' But perhaps it is possible. Anyone any
experience, please?




From dejpolsys at hotmail.com  Tue Jun 14 09:08:40 2005
From: dejpolsys at hotmail.com (William Hindman)
Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2005 10:08:40 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Australia - find nearest location
References: <20050614132543.ULNQ13045.ibm69aec.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>
Message-ID: <BAY103-DAV55B8F8EB640D43638F4A8AEF30@phx.gbl>

..move to civilization? :)

William
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From: "Susan Harkins" <ssharkins at bellsouth.net>
To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'" 
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2005 9:25 AM
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Australia - find nearest location


> FWIW, list mail has been bad all week for me -- not just accessd, but all 
> of
> the lists I'm on -- I see responses long before the originals -- sometimes
> as long as an entire day. Also, my own postings are taking forever to show
> up.
>
> I don't think there's anything we can really do about it, except wait for 
> it
> to work itself out.
>
> Susan H.
>
> What's happening? I posted this last week - and it just appeared on the 
> list
> now....
>
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From ssharkins at bellsouth.net  Tue Jun 14 09:14:55 2005
From: ssharkins at bellsouth.net (Susan Harkins)
Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2005 10:14:55 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Australia - find nearest location
In-Reply-To: <BAY103-DAV55B8F8EB640D43638F4A8AEF30@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <20050614141559.OQHC5167.ibm59aec.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>

Hmmmm... William, you could be talking to Kath or me. :) 

Susan H. 

..move to civilization? :)




From reuben at gfconsultants.com  Tue Jun 14 09:26:57 2005
From: reuben at gfconsultants.com (Reuben Cummings)
Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2005 09:26:57 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Updating from Text to Number data type
In-Reply-To: <1FF4D9105232EB4DA1901BB7D175877E03F706@s003.wolds.summitmedia.co.uk>
Message-ID: <JKEJKMLAODCACEAIJLPAEEJODCAA.reuben@gfconsultants.com>

I've always been able to append or update records with text and change to a
number at the same time.  In fact, I did a bunch last week.

Are you sure all the ID's will actually convert to numbers?  Or the number
type is correct for the incoming data.

What is A2K telling you?

Reuben Cummings
GFC, LLC
phone: 812.523.1017
email: reuben at gfconsultants.com


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[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Paul Rodgers
Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2005 8:57 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Updating from Text to Number data type


I'm changing a one-table db over to a relational db.  I have retained old
fields with data so I can update the new look-up fields quickly.
For example, Hostel records into UnitID via an update query to save doing
hundreds by hand.

Only ... UnitID becomes a Number data type, and Access2K won't let the data
be moved across.

Be most grateful for a nod in the right direction.

All the best
paul

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From Paul.Rogers at SummitMedia.co.uk  Tue Jun 14 10:38:17 2005
From: Paul.Rogers at SummitMedia.co.uk (Paul Rodgers)
Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2005 16:38:17 +0100
Subject: [AccessD] Web page to Access
Message-ID: <1FF4D9105232EB4DA1901BB7D175877E03F708@s003.wolds.summitmedia.co.uk>

Thanks for the direction, Susan. Will explore that way. Cheers
paul

-----Original Message-----
From: Susan Harkins [mailto:ssharkins at bellsouth.net]
Sent: 14 June 2005 15:03
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Web page to Access


I've asked about this and never found a direct way -- but using the Browser
control, you can browse right inside Access, which might make the transfer
process easier. Also, Drew has a cool API that forces an Access form to
"stay on top" even while you're in a browser -- which makes it easier to cut
and paste from the web page directly into your folder -- works well if
you're just gleaning small, infrequent pieces of data. 

Susan H. 

The client asks: Can information in a table (Name, Address, City, etc) on a
webpage be fed (coded) automatically straight into Access 2k?  

I said, 'I don't think so.' But perhaps it is possible. Anyone any
experience, please?


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From martyconnelly at shaw.ca  Tue Jun 14 12:01:10 2005
From: martyconnelly at shaw.ca (MartyConnelly)
Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2005 10:01:10 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Web page to Access
References: <1FF4D9105232EB4DA1901BB7D175877E03F707@s003.wolds.summitmedia.co.uk>
Message-ID: <42AF0D56.2010205@shaw.ca>

It can be done by screen scraping via xmlhttp request object, winhhtp or 
wininet.
Essentially you send a http post command like 
www.somesite.com?table=A&recordrange=100
It then returns a text string which is a copy of the html screen
You then parse the returned html for the values desired.
Really easy if html is xhtml compliant (ha ha rarely true) you can then 
use xslt to parse out values
Drawbacks if html page format changes (common) you may have rewrite 
parser code.
also some sites may do page redirects for security to stop this type of 
scraping or have hidden the asp source.
Some of the bigger or more technically adept companies may provide this 
data as a web service.
Needs some knowledge of html forms to get it to work.You may have to 
figure out button code
on original html source of the request page.

If you don't have a formal data sharing agreement with the company, I 
wouldn't bet the farm on it.
for a whole variety of reasons.

I know one VP of  an airline in Canada went to jail or was severely 
fined for screenscraping a competitors route and load info
from an internal website. He ummm borrowed a password from an 
ex-employee of the competitor and then hit the webpage thousands
of time via code using this method, they sort of noticed the spike of 
hits in the middle of the night.

Here is some sample code that works off a webservice for limited US 
Canada address testing.
See here for info.
http://ws.cdyne.com/psaddress/addresslookup.asmx/
You need a purchased license key other than 0  for a large volume.

To use this code elsewhere
You would just change oXMLHTTP.send string to whatever parameters comes 
behind "?"
and then read or dump returned string to a file with the returned html 
text in oXMLHTTP.responseText
and then parse text string for your values.

This site returns xml rather than straight text so easier to parse with 
DOM or XSLT or XPath query.

Sub test()
Dim strAddress As String
strAddress = AddrCorrect("One Microsoft Way", "Redmond", "WA", 
"98052-6399", "0")
MsgBox strAddress
strAddress = AddrCorrect("1 Microsoft Way", "Redmond", "WA", 
"98052-6399", "0")
MsgBox strAddress
strAddress = AddrCorrect("One Lake St", "Upper Saddle River", "NJ", 
"07458", "0")
MsgBox strAddress
strAddress = AddrCorrect("", "Redmond", "WA", "", "0")
MsgBox strAddress
strAddress = AddrCorrect("417 Fifth Ave", "New York", "NY", "10016", "0")
'more than 1 zip code
MsgBox strAddress
strAddress = AddrCorrect("2400 East Bayshore Road", "Palo Alto", "CA", 
"94303", "0")
MsgBox strAddress
Debug.Print strAddress
End Sub
Public Function AddrCorrect(ByRef address As String, ByRef city As 
String, ByRef state As String, ByRef zip As String, Optional LicenseKey 
As String) As String
  'Dim oXMLHTTP As MSXML2.ServerXMLHTTP
  Dim oXMLHTTP As Object
 
  ' Call the web service to get an XML document
   Set oXMLHTTP = CreateObject("Msxml2.ServerXMLHTTP")
  ' Set oXMLHTTP = New MSXML2.ServerXMLHTTP
  oXMLHTTP.Open "POST", _
                
"http://ws.cdyne.com/psaddress/addresslookup.asmx/CheckAddress", _
                False
  oXMLHTTP.setRequestHeader "Content-Type", _
                            "application/x-www-form-urlencoded"
  oXMLHTTP.send "AddressLine=" & URLEncode(address) & "&ZipCode=" & 
URLEncode(zip) & "&City=" & URLEncode(city) & "&StateAbbrev=" & 
URLEncode(state) & "&LicenseKey=" & URLEncode(LicenseKey)
 
  If oXMLHTTP.status <> 200 Then
    MsgBox "Service Unavailable. Try again later"
    Set oXMLHTTP = Nothing

    Exit Function
  End If
  'Dim oDOM As Object
  ' doesn't work why Dim oDOM As MSXML2.DOMDocument50
  Dim oDOM As MSXML2.DOMDocument40
  Set oDOM = oXMLHTTP.responseXML
   'Debug.Print oDOM.xml
  Dim oNL As Object
  Dim oCN As Object
  Dim oCC As Object
  Set oNL = oDOM.getElementsByTagName("Address")
  For Each oCN In oNL
    For Each oCC In oCN.childNodes
        Select Case LCase(oCC.nodeName)
            Case "serviceerror"
                If CBool(oCC.Text) = True Then
                    AddrCorrect = "Service Error.  Try again Later"
                    GoTo leaveit
                End If
            Case "addresserror"
                If CBool(oCC.Text) = True Then
                    AddrCorrect = "Address uncorrectable."
                     Debug.Print oDOM.xml
                    GoTo leaveit
                End If
            Case "servicecurrentlyunavailable"
                If CBool(oCC.Text) = True Then
                    AddrCorrect = "Service Unavailable.  Try again Later"
                    GoTo leaveit
                End If
            Case "addressfoundbemorespecific"
                If CBool(oCC.Text) = True Then
                    AddrCorrect = "Address Found.  Be more Specific."
                    GoTo leaveit
                End If
            Case "deliveryaddress"
                address = oCC.Text
            Case "city"
                city = oCC.Text
            Case "stateabbrev"
                state = oCC.Text
            Case "zipcode"
                zip = oCC.Text
        End Select
    Next
  Next
AddrCorrect = "OK" ' Address corrected
  
 
leaveit:
  Set oCC = Nothing
  Set oCN = Nothing
  Set oNL = Nothing
  Set oDOM = Nothing
  Set oXMLHTTP = Nothing
 

End Function


Public Function URLEncode(inS As String) As String
  Dim i As Long
  Dim inC, outC As String
  For i = 1 To Len(inS)
    inC = Mid(inS, i, 1)
    Select Case inC
      Case " "
       outC = "+"
      Case "&"
       outC = "%38"
      Case "!" To "~"
       outC = inC
      Case Else
       outC = "%" + Right("00" + Hex(Asc(inC)), 2)
    End Select
    URLEncode = URLEncode + outC
  Next i
End Function



Paul Rodgers wrote:

>The client asks: Can information in a table (Name, Address, City, etc) on a
>webpage be fed (coded) automatically straight into Access 2k?  
>
>I said, 'I don't think so.' But perhaps it is possible. Anyone any
>experience, please?
>
>All the best
>paul 
>
>  
>

-- 
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Victoria, B.C.
Canada





From dejpolsys at hotmail.com  Tue Jun 14 12:31:44 2005
From: dejpolsys at hotmail.com (William Hindman)
Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2005 13:31:44 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Australia - find nearest location
References: <20050614141559.OQHC5167.ibm59aec.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>
Message-ID: <BAY103-DAV764342F08137050D72560AEF30@phx.gbl>

..no, no, no ...Kath lives in Australia ...you live in the outback :)

William
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From: "Susan Harkins" <ssharkins at bellsouth.net>
To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'" 
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2005 10:14 AM
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Australia - find nearest location


> Hmmmm... William, you could be talking to Kath or me. :)
>
> Susan H.
>
> ..move to civilization? :)
>
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From martyconnelly at shaw.ca  Tue Jun 14 14:54:58 2005
From: martyconnelly at shaw.ca (MartyConnelly)
Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2005 12:54:58 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Detecting Database Connection Type?
References: <20050614003805.CF92C4154D@mail01.powweb.com>
Message-ID: <42AF3612.9020600@shaw.ca>

You can try Win32_NetworkAdapter and Win32_NetworkAdapterConfiguration to
get information about the network adapter. Also, you can obtain the
information about what kind of connection (such as VPN, PPPoE..etc) is 
using
in the remote PC from these two classes.
You can have both wireless and lan connection made at same time.
but you can set opening precedence from Network Control Panel advanced 
options.
This code might tell you if wireless or Lan connection, haven't got 
wireless one to test.
You can code to disable one of the Nics via Shell namespace.

also this DOS command might tell you something
netsh interface show interface > c:\temp\netsh.txt

Sub testnics()
'this code takes several seconds to run initially
Dim NICA As Object
Dim Nic As Variant
Dim lngCount As Long
Dim StrNic As String
Dim StrIP As String
Dim i As Long
Set NICA = 
GetObject("winmgmts:").InstancesOf("Win32_NetworkAdapterConfiguration")

For Each Nic In NICA
    Debug.Print "============================"
     StrNic = Nic.Description 'type of NIC
      Debug.Print StrNic
     If Nic.IPEnabled Then
        lngCount = UBound(Nic.IPAddress)
        'For i = 0 To lngCount
                StrIP = vbTab & Nic.IPAddress(0)  'array
                If StrIP <> "" Then
                        Debug.Print "IP " & StrIP & " MAC address " & 
Nic.MACAddress
                        Debug.Print "DNS Name " & Nic.DNSHostName

                End If
       ' Next
     End If
     Debug.Print vbNewLine
Next

Robert Gracie wrote:

>Michael,
> The problem is a little deeper that that. We have several laptop users,
>each with wireless capabilities that automatically connect to the LAN. I
>have instructed them, (sigh) time and time again, that they must plug into
>the network, via a LAN jack before logging in the program. I'm at the point
>now where I need to come up with a solution that works to prevent a wireless
>connection to this one program. All laptop users are running Win XP.
>
>I sure hope there is a "Coded" solution, as I don't want to convert this
>program to SQL....
>
>I hope this helps...
>
>Robert
>
> 
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Michael R Mattys
>Sent: Monday, June 13, 2005 8:16 PM
>To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
>Subject: Re: [AccessD] Detecting Database Connection Type?
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Robert Gracie" <Robert at servicexp.com>
>To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'"
><accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
>Sent: Monday, June 13, 2005 7:56 PM
>Subject: [AccessD] Detecting Database Connection Type?
>
>
>  
>
>> How can one check the type of connection to the back end data, making
>>    
>>
>sure
>  
>
>>the connection is not wireless?
>>    
>>
>
>Robert,
>
>What prompted your question?
>Is it not simply a matter of connection exists verus connection does not
>exist?
>
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>Mattys MapLib for Microsoft MapPoint
>http://www.mattysconsulting.com
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From pedro at plex.nl  Tue Jun 14 15:56:14 2005
From: pedro at plex.nl (Pedro Janssen)
Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2005 22:56:14 +0200
Subject: [AccessD] invalid number of arguments
References: <002a01c56f98$c62e6a90$fac581d5@pedro><017001c56fa4$4d7685e0$0202a8c0@default><001901c57015$3ddf5dc0$fac581d5@pedro><00c101c57019$b79955e0$0202a8c0@default><002301c5704b$9b1b4180$fac581d5@pedro>
	<00be01c5704f$e33b0370$0202a8c0@default>
Message-ID: <007901c57128$6b131390$fac581d5@pedro>

Hello Michael,

no the error then still exists.

Pedro Janssen


----- Original Message -----
From: "Michael R Mattys" <mmattys at rochester.rr.com>
To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving"
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Monday, June 13, 2005 9:41 PM
Subject: Re: [AccessD] invalid number of arguments


> Pedro,
>
> Will the error go away if you set a reference to DAO 3.6
> and then put Dim db As DAO.Database?
> ----
>
> Michael R. Mattys
> Mattys MapLib for Microsoft MapPoint
> http://www.mattysconsulting.com
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Pedro Janssen" <pedro at plex.nl>
> To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving"
> <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
> Sent: Monday, June 13, 2005 3:10 PM
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] invalid number of arguments
>
>
> > Thanks for this code Michael,
> >
> > but i need to solve the invalid argument error anyway, because i have
> other
> > codes with the same problem.
> >
> > Pedro Janssen
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Michael R Mattys" <mmattys at rochester.rr.com>
> > To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving"
> > <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
> > Sent: Monday, June 13, 2005 3:13 PM
> > Subject: Re: [AccessD] invalid number of arguments
> >
> >
> > > Pedro,
> > >
> > > Sorry. This is how I remove linked tables:
> > > To make it so that you remove only specific tables
> > > you modify it so that you end up with Neal's function.
> > >
> > > Function RemoveLinkedTbls()
> > >     Dim db As DAO.Database, tdf As DAO.TableDef
> > >     Set db = CurrentDb
> > >     For Each tdf In db.TableDefs
> > >         If tdf.Connect <> "" Then
> > >             DoCmd.DeleteObject acTable, tdf.Name
> > >         End If
> > >     Next
> > >     Set db = Nothing
> > > End Function
> > > ----
> > >
> > > Michael R. Mattys
> > > Mattys MapLib for Microsoft MapPoint
> > > http://www.mattysconsulting.com
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Pedro Janssen" <pedro at plex.nl>
> > > To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving"
> > > <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
> > > Sent: Monday, June 13, 2005 8:41 AM
> > > Subject: Re: [AccessD] invalid number of arguments
> > >
> > >
> > > > Hello Michael,
> > > >
> > > > when using db.TableDefs(strTableName).Delete it gives an
> compile-error:
> > > > Can't find methode or member.
> > > >
> > > > Any other ideas.
> > > >
> > > > Pedro Janssen
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: "Michael R Mattys" <mmattys at rochester.rr.com>
> > > > To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving"
> > > > <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
> > > > Sent: Monday, June 13, 2005 1:13 AM
> > > > Subject: Re: [AccessD] invalid number of arguments
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > From: "Pedro Janssen" <pedro at plex.nl>
> > > > > To: <AccessD at databaseadvisors.com>
> > > > > Sent: Sunday, June 12, 2005 5:50 PM
> > > > > Subject: [AccessD] invalid number of arguments
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Hello Group,
> > > > >
> > > > > i am using a function that Neil Kling provided me in the past.
> > > > > When running it from an expression i get an error:
> > > > >
> > > > > Invalid number of arguments.
> > > > >
> > > > > Who can help me with this
> > > > >
> > > > > ------
> > > > >
> > > > > Pedro,
> > > > >
> > > > > It should be
> > > > >
> > > > > db.TableDefs(strTableName).Delete
> > > > >
> > > > > ----
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From pedro at plex.nl  Tue Jun 14 16:26:37 2005
From: pedro at plex.nl (Pedro Janssen)
Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2005 23:26:37 +0200
Subject: [AccessD] invalid number of arguments
References: <30BC111F638EB54082001A7E7282FE4107F3D6@elmo.co.montgomery.ny.us>
Message-ID: <007a01c57128$6b8d73b0$fac581d5@pedro>

Indeed i am not passing in anything, now i understand why the error occurs.

Is there no other way to work arround this.

Pedro Janssen



----- Original Message -----
From: "Neal Kling" <nkling at co.montgomery.ny.us>
To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving"
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Monday, June 13, 2005 9:51 PM
Subject: RE: [AccessD] invalid number of arguments


> I believe he's passing nothing, which of course results in the missing
parameter. Perhaps you can explain this better than I.
>
> Neal
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Mike & Doris
> Manning
> Sent: Monday, June 13, 2005 3:46 PM
> To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
> Subject: RE: [AccessD] invalid number of arguments
>
>
> What are you passing in as the value of "tblDebiteurAlgemeen"?
>
> Doris Manning
> Database Administrator
> Hargrove Inc.
> www.hargroveinc.com
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Pedro Janssen
> Sent: Monday, June 13, 2005 3:15 PM
> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] invalid number of arguments
>
>
> Hello Neal,
>
> i now have tried:
>
> Function DeleteTableLink(tblDebiteurAlgemeen As String) As Boolean On
Error
> GoTo Err_DeleteTableLink
>   Dim db As Database
>
>   Set db = DBEngine(0)(0)
>   db.TableDefs.Delete (tblDebiteurAlgemeen)
>   db.TableDefs.Refresh
>
>   DeleteTableLink = True
>
> Exit_DeleteTableLink:
>
> etc.etc.etc
>
>
> but i still have the error.
>
> Anyone any ideas.
>
> Pedro
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Neal Kling" <nkling at co.montgomery.ny.us>
> To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving"
> <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
> Sent: Monday, June 13, 2005 2:52 PM
> Subject: RE: [AccessD] invalid number of arguments
>
>
> > I see you're setting the table variable right in the function. But the
> function it's self is still expecting you to pass a table name. I suspect
> this may be where you are having a problem. Either redeclare the function
> without the strTableName parameter, or pass it the table name. In other
> words instead of setting strTableName in the function, call the function
> like this:
> >
> > DeleteTableLink "tblDebiteurAlgemeen"
> >
> > Don't forget to comment out the line
> > strTableName = "tblDebiteurAlgemeen"
> >
> > Neal
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> > [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Pedro
> > Janssen
> > Sent: Sunday, June 12, 2005 5:51 PM
> > To: AccessD at databaseadvisors.com
> > Subject: [AccessD] invalid number of arguments
> >
> >
> > Hello Group,
> >
> > i am using a function that Neil Kling provided me in the past. When
> > running it from an expression i get an error:
> >
> > Invalid number of arguments.
> >
> > Who can help me with this
> >
> > Pedro Janssen
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Function DeleteTableLink(strTableName As String) As Boolean On Error
> > GoTo Err_DeleteTableLink
> >   Dim db As Database
> >
> >   strTableName = "tblDebiteurAlgemeen"
> >
> >   Set db = DBEngine(0)(0)
> >   db.TableDefs.Delete strTableName
> >   db.TableDefs.Refresh
> >
> >   DeleteTableLink = True
> >
> > Exit_DeleteTableLink:
> > Exit Function
> >
> > Err_DeleteTableLink:
> >   Select Case Err
> >   Case 0    'insert Errors you wish to ignore here
> >     Resume Next
> >   Case 3265      'Item doesn't exist in collection
> >         Resume Next
> >   Case Else 'All other errors will trap
> >     Beep
> >     MsgBox Err.Number & "; " & Err.Description, , "Error in function
> basObjectHandlers.DeleteTableLink"
> >   Resume Exit_DeleteTableLink
> >   End Select
> >   Resume 0  'FOR TROUBLESHOOTING
> > End Function
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From pedro at plex.nl  Tue Jun 14 16:30:19 2005
From: pedro at plex.nl (Pedro Janssen)
Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2005 23:30:19 +0200
Subject: [AccessD] invalid number of arguments
References: <30BC111F638EB54082001A7E7282FE41114D45@elmo.co.montgomery.ny.us>
Message-ID: <007b01c57128$6c07acc0$fac581d5@pedro>

Hello Neal,

WQhen using:

""Function DeleteTableLink() as Boolean

Then you would need to specify which table in the function like this

db.TableDefs.Delete "tblDebiteurAlgemeen"       ""


It  not only removes the link, but also deletes the table.

What i would like is to remove the link, so that the table can be used.

Can you explain, where and how to use:  DeleteTableLink
"tblDebiteurAlgemeen" in the code.
Maybe i misunderstand what you mean because when using this after Function,
i get Compiling errors, because the code expects instruction ends.



Let me explain a little more why i need to delete the link:
I have a linked table.
I need a copy of that table (structure and data) , without the copy is
beeing linked to.
After that i need to adjust, by code some field names.

Who has done this before and can help me with this??

Pedro Janssen



----- Original Message -----
From: "Neal Kling" <nkling at co.montgomery.ny.us>
To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving"
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Monday, June 13, 2005 9:49 PM
Subject: RE: [AccessD] invalid number of arguments


> Pedro,
>
> This line
>
> Function DeleteTableLink(tblDebiteurAlgemeen As String) As Boolean
>
> is telling the function that it is going to expect you to pass it a string
parameter of the name of the table you want to delete.
>
> Where you are calling the function it would have to done like this:
> DeleteTableLink "tblDebiteurAlgemeen"
>
> That way the function knows which table to delete. If this is causing you
too many problems you can get rid of the requirement for that parameter and
declare the function like this:
>
> Function DeleteTableLink() as Boolean
>
> Then you would need to specify which table in the function like this
>
> db.TableDefs.Delete "tblDebiteurAlgemeen"
>
> The problem is now you have a function that will only do one thing. It
won't be reusable.
>
> Neal
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Pedro Janssen
> Sent: Monday, June 13, 2005 3:15 PM
> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] invalid number of arguments
>
>
> Hello Neal,
>
> i now have tried:
>
> Function DeleteTableLink(tblDebiteurAlgemeen As String) As Boolean
> On Error GoTo Err_DeleteTableLink
>   Dim db As Database
>
>   Set db = DBEngine(0)(0)
>   db.TableDefs.Delete (tblDebiteurAlgemeen)
>   db.TableDefs.Refresh
>
>   DeleteTableLink = True
>
> Exit_DeleteTableLink:
>
> etc.etc.etc
>
>
> but i still have the error.
>
> Anyone any ideas.
>
> Pedro
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Neal Kling" <nkling at co.montgomery.ny.us>
> To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving"
> <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
> Sent: Monday, June 13, 2005 2:52 PM
> Subject: RE: [AccessD] invalid number of arguments
>
>
> > I see you're setting the table variable right in the function. But the
> function it's self is still expecting you to pass a table name. I suspect
> this may be where you are having a problem. Either redeclare the function
> without the strTableName parameter, or pass it the table name. In other
> words instead of setting strTableName in the function, call the function
> like this:
> >
> > DeleteTableLink "tblDebiteurAlgemeen"
> >
> > Don't forget to comment out the line
> > strTableName = "tblDebiteurAlgemeen"
> >
> > Neal
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> > [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Pedro Janssen
> > Sent: Sunday, June 12, 2005 5:51 PM
> > To: AccessD at databaseadvisors.com
> > Subject: [AccessD] invalid number of arguments
> >
> >
> > Hello Group,
> >
> > i am using a function that Neil Kling provided me in the past.
> > When running it from an expression i get an error:
> >
> > Invalid number of arguments.
> >
> > Who can help me with this
> >
> > Pedro Janssen
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Function DeleteTableLink(strTableName As String) As Boolean
> > On Error GoTo Err_DeleteTableLink
> >   Dim db As Database
> >
> >   strTableName = "tblDebiteurAlgemeen"
> >
> >   Set db = DBEngine(0)(0)
> >   db.TableDefs.Delete strTableName
> >   db.TableDefs.Refresh
> >
> >   DeleteTableLink = True
> >
> > Exit_DeleteTableLink:
> > Exit Function
> >
> > Err_DeleteTableLink:
> >   Select Case Err
> >   Case 0    'insert Errors you wish to ignore here
> >     Resume Next
> >   Case 3265      'Item doesn't exist in collection
> >         Resume Next
> >   Case Else 'All other errors will trap
> >     Beep
> >     MsgBox Err.Number & "; " & Err.Description, , "Error in function
> basObjectHandlers.DeleteTableLink"
> >   Resume Exit_DeleteTableLink
> >   End Select
> >   Resume 0  'FOR TROUBLESHOOTING
> > End Function
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From D.Dick at uws.edu.au  Tue Jun 14 23:31:11 2005
From: D.Dick at uws.edu.au (Darren Dick)
Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2005 14:31:11 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] A2003:Connection Method failing (SOLVED)
Message-ID: <2FDE83AF1A69C84796CBD13788DDA8833FF3C8@BONHAM.AD.UWS.EDU.AU>

Never Mind
Updated to latest MDAC and that sorted it 
See ya

DD
 

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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Darren Dick
Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2005 12:28 PM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [AccessD] A2003:Connection Method failing

Hello all
 
(Cross Posted to Sue and Dmitri's list)
 
The code below used to work - now it doesn't Our enterprise has moved to
Exchange - does that matter?
 
The error is
ERR.Number =  -2147024769
ERR.Description = Method 'Connection' of object '_CurrentProject' failed

Any suggestions?
 
Code snip below
 

    Dim rs As Object
    Dim con As Object

    
    Dim objOutlook As Outlook.Application
    Dim objAppt As Outlook.AppointmentItem
    Dim objRecurPattern As Outlook.RecurrencePattern
        
    Set objOutlook = CreateObject("Outlook.Application")
    Set objAppt = objOutlook.CreateItem(olAppointmentItem)
    
    Set rs = CreateObject("ADODB.Recordset")
    Set con = Application.CurrentProject.Connection
'<=============Error here
 
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From marvkin at hotmail.com  Wed Jun 15 01:25:32 2005
From: marvkin at hotmail.com (marvin hunkin)
Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2005 16:25:32 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] ms access 2003 query
Message-ID: <BAY102-F288F0228CF80914D081583ABF20@phx.gbl>

Hi.
some one mentioned on the list a while back, how to get round of activating 
the advanced wizards using the tool box in ms access 2003.
how to get round, having no short cut keys, and no way to activate the say 
command button wizard in form or report design of a form or report in ms 
access 2003.
if any one got any tips on how to get round this problem, without dragging 
and dropping the mouse, and tried the jaws drag and drop feature, but still 
would not activate it without sighted assistance.
did ask freedom scientific, but had no plans to fix this problem, and did 
report it to tech support over 12 months ago before jaws 6.0 came out last 
year.
so if any one has got me the answer i am looking for, then let me know.
cheers Marvin.




From Paul.Rogers at SummitMedia.co.uk  Wed Jun 15 03:11:02 2005
From: Paul.Rogers at SummitMedia.co.uk (Paul Rodgers)
Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2005 09:11:02 +0100
Subject: [AccessD] Web page to Access
Message-ID: <1FF4D9105232EB4DA1901BB7D175877E03F70A@s003.wolds.summitmedia.co.uk>

That's amazing, Marty. Thanks very much for the guidance and for the code
etc. Much obliged to you.
Cheers paul 

-----Original Message-----
From: MartyConnelly [mailto:martyconnelly at shaw.ca]
Sent: 14 June 2005 18:01
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Web page to Access


It can be done by screen scraping via xmlhttp request object, winhhtp or 
wininet.
Essentially you send a http post command like 
www.somesite.com?table=A&recordrange=100
It then returns a text string which is a copy of the html screen
You then parse the returned html for the values desired.
Really easy if html is xhtml compliant (ha ha rarely true) you can then 
use xslt to parse out values
Drawbacks if html page format changes (common) you may have rewrite 
parser code.
also some sites may do page redirects for security to stop this type of 
scraping or have hidden the asp source.
Some of the bigger or more technically adept companies may provide this 
data as a web service.
Needs some knowledge of html forms to get it to work.You may have to 
figure out button code
on original html source of the request page.

If you don't have a formal data sharing agreement with the company, I 
wouldn't bet the farm on it.
for a whole variety of reasons.

I know one VP of  an airline in Canada went to jail or was severely 
fined for screenscraping a competitors route and load info
from an internal website. He ummm borrowed a password from an 
ex-employee of the competitor and then hit the webpage thousands
of time via code using this method, they sort of noticed the spike of 
hits in the middle of the night.

Here is some sample code that works off a webservice for limited US 
Canada address testing.
See here for info.
http://ws.cdyne.com/psaddress/addresslookup.asmx/
You need a purchased license key other than 0  for a large volume.

To use this code elsewhere
You would just change oXMLHTTP.send string to whatever parameters comes 
behind "?"
and then read or dump returned string to a file with the returned html 
text in oXMLHTTP.responseText
and then parse text string for your values.

This site returns xml rather than straight text so easier to parse with 
DOM or XSLT or XPath query.

Sub test()
Dim strAddress As String
strAddress = AddrCorrect("One Microsoft Way", "Redmond", "WA", 
"98052-6399", "0")
MsgBox strAddress
strAddress = AddrCorrect("1 Microsoft Way", "Redmond", "WA", 
"98052-6399", "0")
MsgBox strAddress
strAddress = AddrCorrect("One Lake St", "Upper Saddle River", "NJ", 
"07458", "0")
MsgBox strAddress
strAddress = AddrCorrect("", "Redmond", "WA", "", "0")
MsgBox strAddress
strAddress = AddrCorrect("417 Fifth Ave", "New York", "NY", "10016", "0")
'more than 1 zip code
MsgBox strAddress
strAddress = AddrCorrect("2400 East Bayshore Road", "Palo Alto", "CA", 
"94303", "0")
MsgBox strAddress
Debug.Print strAddress
End Sub
Public Function AddrCorrect(ByRef address As String, ByRef city As 
String, ByRef state As String, ByRef zip As String, Optional LicenseKey 
As String) As String
  'Dim oXMLHTTP As MSXML2.ServerXMLHTTP
  Dim oXMLHTTP As Object
 
  ' Call the web service to get an XML document
   Set oXMLHTTP = CreateObject("Msxml2.ServerXMLHTTP")
  ' Set oXMLHTTP = New MSXML2.ServerXMLHTTP
  oXMLHTTP.Open "POST", _
                
"http://ws.cdyne.com/psaddress/addresslookup.asmx/CheckAddress", _
                False
  oXMLHTTP.setRequestHeader "Content-Type", _
                            "application/x-www-form-urlencoded"
  oXMLHTTP.send "AddressLine=" & URLEncode(address) & "&ZipCode=" & 
URLEncode(zip) & "&City=" & URLEncode(city) & "&StateAbbrev=" & 
URLEncode(state) & "&LicenseKey=" & URLEncode(LicenseKey)
 
  If oXMLHTTP.status <> 200 Then
    MsgBox "Service Unavailable. Try again later"
    Set oXMLHTTP = Nothing

    Exit Function
  End If
  'Dim oDOM As Object
  ' doesn't work why Dim oDOM As MSXML2.DOMDocument50
  Dim oDOM As MSXML2.DOMDocument40
  Set oDOM = oXMLHTTP.responseXML
   'Debug.Print oDOM.xml
  Dim oNL As Object
  Dim oCN As Object
  Dim oCC As Object
  Set oNL = oDOM.getElementsByTagName("Address")
  For Each oCN In oNL
    For Each oCC In oCN.childNodes
        Select Case LCase(oCC.nodeName)
            Case "serviceerror"
                If CBool(oCC.Text) = True Then
                    AddrCorrect = "Service Error.  Try again Later"
                    GoTo leaveit
                End If
            Case "addresserror"
                If CBool(oCC.Text) = True Then
                    AddrCorrect = "Address uncorrectable."
                     Debug.Print oDOM.xml
                    GoTo leaveit
                End If
            Case "servicecurrentlyunavailable"
                If CBool(oCC.Text) = True Then
                    AddrCorrect = "Service Unavailable.  Try again Later"
                    GoTo leaveit
                End If
            Case "addressfoundbemorespecific"
                If CBool(oCC.Text) = True Then
                    AddrCorrect = "Address Found.  Be more Specific."
                    GoTo leaveit
                End If
            Case "deliveryaddress"
                address = oCC.Text
            Case "city"
                city = oCC.Text
            Case "stateabbrev"
                state = oCC.Text
            Case "zipcode"
                zip = oCC.Text
        End Select
    Next
  Next
AddrCorrect = "OK" ' Address corrected
  
 
leaveit:
  Set oCC = Nothing
  Set oCN = Nothing
  Set oNL = Nothing
  Set oDOM = Nothing
  Set oXMLHTTP = Nothing
 

End Function


Public Function URLEncode(inS As String) As String
  Dim i As Long
  Dim inC, outC As String
  For i = 1 To Len(inS)
    inC = Mid(inS, i, 1)
    Select Case inC
      Case " "
       outC = "+"
      Case "&"
       outC = "%38"
      Case "!" To "~"
       outC = inC
      Case Else
       outC = "%" + Right("00" + Hex(Asc(inC)), 2)
    End Select
    URLEncode = URLEncode + outC
  Next i
End Function



Paul Rodgers wrote:

>The client asks: Can information in a table (Name, Address, City, etc) on a
>webpage be fed (coded) automatically straight into Access 2k?  
>
>I said, 'I don't think so.' But perhaps it is possible. Anyone any
>experience, please?
>
>All the best
>paul 
>
>  
>

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From Paul.Rogers at SummitMedia.co.uk  Wed Jun 15 03:32:04 2005
From: Paul.Rogers at SummitMedia.co.uk (Paul Rodgers)
Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2005 09:32:04 +0100
Subject: [AccessD] Updating from Text to Number data type
Message-ID: <1FF4D9105232EB4DA1901BB7D175877E03F70C@s003.wolds.summitmedia.co.uk>

Hi Reuben

You are right, but in this case the field is linked to a lookup table. To
make it 'easy', I have a field with the information I want to appear in the
new lookup field. 

The lookup field's data type is Number. The information's data type is text,
because it is text. 

It seems the only way is to update it all by hand because I can't change the
data types ... 

Many thanks
paul



-----Original Message-----
From: Reuben Cummings [mailto:reuben at gfconsultants.com]
Sent: 14 June 2005 15:27
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Updating from Text to Number data type


I've always been able to append or update records with text and change to a
number at the same time.  In fact, I did a bunch last week.

Are you sure all the ID's will actually convert to numbers?  Or the number
type is correct for the incoming data.

What is A2K telling you?

Reuben Cummings
GFC, LLC
phone: 812.523.1017
email: reuben at gfconsultants.com


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Paul Rodgers
Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2005 8:57 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Updating from Text to Number data type


I'm changing a one-table db over to a relational db.  I have retained old
fields with data so I can update the new look-up fields quickly.
For example, Hostel records into UnitID via an update query to save doing
hundreds by hand.

Only ... UnitID becomes a Number data type, and Access2K won't let the data
be moved across.

Be most grateful for a nod in the right direction.

All the best
paul

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From artful at rogers.com  Wed Jun 15 06:08:02 2005
From: artful at rogers.com (Arthur Fuller)
Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2005 07:08:02 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Iterate through similarlnamed columns in a recordset
In-Reply-To: <s2a2d995.014@cactus.dk>
References: <s2a2d995.014@cactus.dk>
Message-ID: <42B00C12.6090004@rogers.com>

You have a table like this (let's not bring up normalisation)...

PK autonumber
Size1 long
Height1 long
Weight1 long

(The last three are repeated 3 times, so their last digits are 2, 3 and 4.)

Assume the required vars are declared and filled. rs = New
ADODB.RecordSet. etc.
I want to write a loop something like this:

For i = 1 to 4
    debug.print rs("Size"&i)
    etc.
Next

But I can't seem to get it right. I tried using eval() and various other
approaches. Ideas?

Arthur



From Gustav at cactus.dk  Wed Jun 15 06:49:18 2005
From: Gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2005 13:49:18 +0200
Subject: [AccessD] Iterate through similarlnamed columns in a
	recordset
Message-ID: <s2b031f5.069@cactus.dk>

Hi Arthur

Did you send this today? And the 11. June too?

/gustav

>>> artful at rogers.com 06/15 1:08 pm >>>
You have a table like this (let's not bring up normalisation)...

PK autonumber
Size1 long
Height1 long
Weight1 long

(The last three are repeated 3 times, so their last digits are 2, 3 and
4.)

Assume the required vars are declared and filled. rs = New
ADODB.RecordSet. etc.
I want to write a loop something like this:

For i = 1 to 4
    debug.print rs("Size"&i)
    etc.
Next

But I can't seem to get it right. I tried using eval() and various
other
approaches. Ideas?

Arthur

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From artful at rogers.com  Wed Jun 15 08:17:30 2005
From: artful at rogers.com (Arthur Fuller)
Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2005 09:17:30 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Iterate through similarlnamed columns in a	recordset
In-Reply-To: <s2b031f5.069@cactus.dk>
References: <s2b031f5.069@cactus.dk>
Message-ID: <42B02A6A.1080004@rogers.com>

Gustav Brock wrote:

>Hi Arthur
>
>Did you send this today? And the 11. June too?
>
>/gustav
>
>  
>
>>>>artful at rogers.com 06/15 1:08 pm >>>
>>>>        
>>>>
>You have a table like this (let's not bring up normalisation)...
>
>PK autonumber
>Size1 long
>Height1 long
>Weight1 long
>
>(The last three are repeated 3 times, so their last digits are 2, 3 and
>4.)
>
>Assume the required vars are declared and filled. rs = New
>ADODB.RecordSet. etc.
>I want to write a loop something like this:
>
>For i = 1 to 4
>    debug.print rs("Size"&i)
>    etc.
>Next
>
>But I can't seem to get it right. I tried using eval() and various
>other
>approaches. Ideas?
>
>Arthur
>
>  
>
I guess I did. Suddenly Thunderbird is screwing up on me big time. I may 
(gasp) return to Outlook.


From mmattys at rochester.rr.com  Wed Jun 15 08:49:39 2005
From: mmattys at rochester.rr.com (Michael R Mattys)
Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2005 09:49:39 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] invalid number of arguments
References: <30BC111F638EB54082001A7E7282FE41114D45@elmo.co.montgomery.ny.us>
	<007b01c57128$6c07acc0$fac581d5@pedro>
Message-ID: <00ba01c571b1$155f3bc0$0202a8c0@default>

----- Original Message -----
From: "Pedro Janssen" <pedro at plex.nl>
To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving"
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2005 5:30 PM
Subject: Re: [AccessD] invalid number of arguments
[Snip]

> Let me explain a little more why i need to delete the link:
> I have a linked table.
> I need a copy of that table (structure and data) , without the copy is
> beeing linked to.
> After that i need to adjust, by code some field names.
>
> Who has done this before and can help me with this??
[Snip]

Pedro,

I have done and can do what you're asking.

It may be that you only need to ALIAS fields from your
linked table in a query. Then again, you may have to delete
the link in order to manipulate fields in the external database.

Please explain exactly what you are going to do and
we'll see which option needs implementation.
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From Gustav at cactus.dk  Wed Jun 15 09:54:17 2005
From: Gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2005 16:54:17 +0200
Subject: [AccessD] Iterate through similarlnamed columns in
	a	recordset
Message-ID: <s2b05d56.080@cactus.dk>

Hi Arthur

I see. But did you find out?

/gustav

>>> artful at rogers.com 06/15 3:17 pm >>>
Gustav Brock wrote:

>Hi Arthur
>
>Did you send this today? And the 11. June too?
>
>/gustav
>
>  
>
>>>>artful at rogers.com 06/15 1:08 pm >>>
>>>>        
>>>>
>You have a table like this (let's not bring up normalisation)...
>
>PK autonumber
>Size1 long
>Height1 long
>Weight1 long
>
>(The last three are repeated 3 times, so their last digits are 2, 3
and
>4.)
>
>Assume the required vars are declared and filled. rs = New
>ADODB.RecordSet. etc.
>I want to write a loop something like this:
>
>For i = 1 to 4
>    debug.print rs("Size"&i)
>    etc.
>Next
>
>But I can't seem to get it right. I tried using eval() and various
>other
>approaches. Ideas?
>
>Arthur
>
>  
>
I guess I did. Suddenly Thunderbird is screwing up on me big time. I
may 
(gasp) return to Outlook.



From reuben at gfconsultants.com  Wed Jun 15 09:57:04 2005
From: reuben at gfconsultants.com (Reuben Cummings)
Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2005 09:57:04 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Updating from Text to Number data type
In-Reply-To: <1FF4D9105232EB4DA1901BB7D175877E03F70C@s003.wolds.summitmedia.co.uk>
Message-ID: <JKEJKMLAODCACEAIJLPAOEKNDCAA.reuben@gfconsultants.com>

I think you are saying that you have a field in one table with datatype
text.  It is being filled by a combo box using a table with datatype number.

Is that correct?

I'm sure it can be done (I've been doing a lot of this stuff lately due to
some new contracts we have).  Send me the tables (including any
relationships) offline and I'll check it out.

Reuben Cummings
GFC, LLC
phone: 812.523.1017
email: reuben at gfconsultants.com


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Paul Rodgers
Sent: Wednesday, June 15, 2005 3:32 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Updating from Text to Number data type


Hi Reuben

You are right, but in this case the field is linked to a lookup table. To
make it 'easy', I have a field with the information I want to appear in the
new lookup field.

The lookup field's data type is Number. The information's data type is text,
because it is text.

It seems the only way is to update it all by hand because I can't change the
data types ...

Many thanks
paul



-----Original Message-----
From: Reuben Cummings [mailto:reuben at gfconsultants.com]
Sent: 14 June 2005 15:27
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Updating from Text to Number data type


I've always been able to append or update records with text and change to a
number at the same time.  In fact, I did a bunch last week.

Are you sure all the ID's will actually convert to numbers?  Or the number
type is correct for the incoming data.

What is A2K telling you?

Reuben Cummings
GFC, LLC
phone: 812.523.1017
email: reuben at gfconsultants.com


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Paul Rodgers
Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2005 8:57 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Updating from Text to Number data type


I'm changing a one-table db over to a relational db.  I have retained old
fields with data so I can update the new look-up fields quickly.
For example, Hostel records into UnitID via an update query to save doing
hundreds by hand.

Only ... UnitID becomes a Number data type, and Access2K won't let the data
be moved across.

Be most grateful for a nod in the right direction.

All the best
paul

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From fhtapia at gmail.com  Wed Jun 15 11:30:00 2005
From: fhtapia at gmail.com (Francisco Tapia)
Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2005 09:30:00 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] ms access 2003 query
In-Reply-To: <BAY102-F288F0228CF80914D081583ABF20@phx.gbl>
References: <BAY102-F288F0228CF80914D081583ABF20@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <b874372a05061509305b3ebf76@mail.gmail.com>

I did a quick search in my inbox for all the accessD mail that I've 
received, and found nothing in either the Access-L or AccessD list for 
"advanced wizards" I just received my copy of Access 2003 last week and it 
seems everything is fine w/ it except I must load jet 4sp8 in order for it 
to stop crying like a baby ;).

for me to do that I have to have the helpdesk "PUSH" out the upgrade to the 
clients as many people won't have the admin rights required for this.

On 6/14/05, marvin hunkin <marvkin at hotmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Hi.
> some one mentioned on the list a while back, how to get round of 
> activating
> the advanced wizards using the tool box in ms access 2003.
> how to get round, having no short cut keys, and no way to activate the say
> command button wizard in form or report design of a form or report in ms
> access 2003.
> if any one got any tips on how to get round this problem, without dragging
> and dropping the mouse, and tried the jaws drag and drop feature, but 
> still
> would not activate it without sighted assistance.
> did ask freedom scientific, but had no plans to fix this problem, and did
> report it to tech support over 12 months ago before jaws 6.0 came out last
> year.
> so if any one has got me the answer i am looking for, then let me know.
> cheers Marvin.
> 
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From accessd at shaw.ca  Wed Jun 15 12:30:48 2005
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2005 10:30:48 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Iterate through similarlnamed columns in a recordset
In-Reply-To: <42B00C12.6090004@rogers.com>
Message-ID: <0II40031UZB9PW@l-daemon>

Hi Arthur:

 

Here is a piece of code that loops through a couple tables and all fields.

 

With rs1

 .MoveLast

 .MoveFirst

 Do While .EOF = False

  rs2.AddNew

  For i = 0 To .Fields.Count - 1

   rs2.Fields(i).Value = .Fields(i).Value

  Next

  rs2.Update

  .MoveNext

 Loop

End with

 

HTH

Jim

 

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Arthur Fuller
Sent: Wednesday, June 15, 2005 4:08 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: [AccessD] Iterate through similarlnamed columns in a recordset

 

You have a table like this (let's not bring up normalisation)...

 

PK autonumber

Size1 long

Height1 long

Weight1 long

 

(The last three are repeated 3 times, so their last digits are 2, 3 and 4.)

 

Assume the required vars are declared and filled. rs = New

ADODB.RecordSet. etc.

I want to write a loop something like this:

 

For i = 1 to 4

    debug.print rs("Size"&i)

    etc.

Next

 

But I can't seem to get it right. I tried using eval() and various other

approaches. Ideas?

 

Arthur

 

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From bchacc at san.rr.com  Wed Jun 15 12:39:25 2005
From: bchacc at san.rr.com (Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software)
Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2005 10:39:25 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Design View Increment
Message-ID: <018701c571d1$2c609d80$6801a8c0@HAL9004>

Dear List:

I use the control and arrow keys to move controls around on forms and reports because of the fine control your get that way.  In Access 2000 the increment (ctrl-Up Arrow, for instance) was very small. I recently moved to Access 2003 and the increment is very large.  I tries increasing the Grid X Grid Y values but it didn't help.  

Is there a setting that controls the increment?

MTIA,

Rocky Smolin
Beach Access Software
http://www.e-z-mrp.com
858-259-4334


From newsgrps at dalyn.co.nz  Wed Jun 15 12:55:40 2005
From: newsgrps at dalyn.co.nz (David Emerson)
Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2005 05:55:40 +1200
Subject: [AccessD] Design View Increment
In-Reply-To: <018701c571d1$2c609d80$6801a8c0@HAL9004>
References: <018701c571d1$2c609d80$6801a8c0@HAL9004>
Message-ID: <6.2.1.2.0.20050616055031.02b302d0@mail.dalyn.co.nz>

Rocky,

I don't have A2003 but have noticed funny behaviour in A2002 - sometimes 
holding the Ctrl key combination behaves as if the Snap To Grid option is 
checked in the format menu bar (ie with large increments).  Then when I 
check the Snap to Grid option, the Ctrl combination works with small 
increments and not larger ones. :-\

Regards

David Emerson
Dalyn Software Ltd
25 Cunliffe St, Churton Park
Wellington, New Zealand
Ph/Fax (04) 478-7456
Mobile 027-280-9348

At 16/06/2005, you wrote:
>Dear List:
>
>I use the control and arrow keys to move controls around on forms and 
>reports because of the fine control your get that way.  In Access 2000 the 
>increment (ctrl-Up Arrow, for instance) was very small. I recently moved 
>to Access 2003 and the increment is very large.  I tries increasing the 
>Grid X Grid Y values but it didn't help.
>
>Is there a setting that controls the increment?
>
>MTIA,
>
>Rocky Smolin
>Beach Access Software
>http://www.e-z-mrp.com
>858-259-4334
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From pedro at plex.nl  Wed Jun 15 16:05:36 2005
From: pedro at plex.nl (Pedro Janssen)
Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2005 23:05:36 +0200
Subject: [AccessD] invalid number of arguments
References: <30BC111F638EB54082001A7E7282FE41114D45@elmo.co.montgomery.ny.us><007b01c57128$6c07acc0$fac581d5@pedro>
	<00ba01c571b1$155f3bc0$0202a8c0@default>
Message-ID: <005001c571f0$06e703e0$fac581d5@pedro>

Hello Michael,

thanks for your help.
I will send you an Email tomorrow or friday which will give you some extra
details.

Pedro Janssen


----- Original Message -----
From: "Michael R Mattys" <mmattys at rochester.rr.com>
To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving"
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Wednesday, June 15, 2005 3:49 PM
Subject: Re: [AccessD] invalid number of arguments


> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Pedro Janssen" <pedro at plex.nl>
> To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving"
> <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2005 5:30 PM
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] invalid number of arguments
> [Snip]
>
> > Let me explain a little more why i need to delete the link:
> > I have a linked table.
> > I need a copy of that table (structure and data) , without the copy is
> > beeing linked to.
> > After that i need to adjust, by code some field names.
> >
> > Who has done this before and can help me with this??
> [Snip]
>
> Pedro,
>
> I have done and can do what you're asking.
>
> It may be that you only need to ALIAS fields from your
> linked table in a query. Then again, you may have to delete
> the link in order to manipulate fields in the external database.
>
> Please explain exactly what you are going to do and
> we'll see which option needs implementation.
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> http://www.mattysconsulting.com
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From KP at sdsonline.net  Wed Jun 15 19:50:32 2005
From: KP at sdsonline.net (Kath Pelletti)
Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2005 10:50:32 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] Australia - find nearest location
References: <20050614141559.OQHC5167.ibm59aec.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>
	<BAY103-DAV764342F08137050D72560AEF30@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <003d01c5720d$67331730$6601a8c0@user>

Not sure where Susan lives - but were not that civilised........
:)
Kath
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: William Hindman 
  To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving 
  Sent: Wednesday, June 15, 2005 3:31 AM
  Subject: Re: [AccessD] Australia - find nearest location


  ..no, no, no ...Kath lives in Australia ...you live in the outback :)

  William
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: "Susan Harkins" <ssharkins at bellsouth.net>
  To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'" 
  <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
  Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2005 10:14 AM
  Subject: RE: [AccessD] Australia - find nearest location


  > Hmmmm... William, you could be talking to Kath or me. :)
  >
  > Susan H.
  >
  > ..move to civilization? :)
  >
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From KP at sdsonline.net  Wed Jun 15 19:50:50 2005
From: KP at sdsonline.net (Kath Pelletti)
Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2005 10:50:50 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] Australia - find nearest location
References: <20050614132543.ULNQ13045.ibm69aec.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>
Message-ID: <004b01c5720d$712f8c50$6601a8c0@user>

Yeah - me too.
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Susan Harkins 
  To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' 
  Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2005 11:25 PM
  Subject: RE: [AccessD] Australia - find nearest location


  FWIW, list mail has been bad all week for me -- not just accessd, but all of
  the lists I'm on -- I see responses long before the originals -- sometimes
  as long as an entire day. Also, my own postings are taking forever to show
  up. 

  I don't think there's anything we can really do about it, except wait for it
  to work itself out. 

  Susan H. 

  What's happening? I posted this last week - and it just appeared on the list
  now....

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From dejpolsys at hotmail.com  Wed Jun 15 20:13:47 2005
From: dejpolsys at hotmail.com (William Hindman)
Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2005 21:13:47 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Australia - find nearest location
References: <20050614141559.OQHC5167.ibm59aec.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE><BAY103-DAV764342F08137050D72560AEF30@phx.gbl>
	<003d01c5720d$67331730$6601a8c0@user>
Message-ID: <BAY103-DAV8D27BF374E6EB4824B897AEF50@phx.gbl>

..the wilds of Kentucky ...uncivilized by any standards :))))

William
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Kath Pelletti" <KP at sdsonline.net>
To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving" 
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Wednesday, June 15, 2005 8:50 PM
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Australia - find nearest location


Not sure where Susan lives - but were not that civilised........
:)
Kath
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: William Hindman
  To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
  Sent: Wednesday, June 15, 2005 3:31 AM
  Subject: Re: [AccessD] Australia - find nearest location


  ..no, no, no ...Kath lives in Australia ...you live in the outback :)

  William
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: "Susan Harkins" <ssharkins at bellsouth.net>
  To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'"
  <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
  Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2005 10:14 AM
  Subject: RE: [AccessD] Australia - find nearest location


  > Hmmmm... William, you could be talking to Kath or me. :)
  >
  > Susan H.
  >
  > ..move to civilization? :)
  >
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From ssharkins at bellsouth.net  Wed Jun 15 20:18:48 2005
From: ssharkins at bellsouth.net (Susan Harkins)
Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2005 21:18:48 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Australia - find nearest location
In-Reply-To: <003d01c5720d$67331730$6601a8c0@user>
Message-ID: <20050616011855.VLOI13045.ibm69aec.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>

Cowpoke, Kentucky :) Beautiful women, fast horses, and smooth bourbon. :) 

Susan H. 

Not sure where Susan lives - but were not that civilised........
:)



From dejpolsys at hotmail.com  Wed Jun 15 20:38:14 2005
From: dejpolsys at hotmail.com (William Hindman)
Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2005 21:38:14 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Australia - find nearest location
References: <20050616011855.VLOI13045.ibm69aec.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>
Message-ID: <BAY103-DAV434E3838C823F7E1D2F72AEF50@phx.gbl>

..the way I heard it was ...fast women, beautiful horses, and hard liquor 
..not necessarily in that order :)))

William

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Subject: RE: [AccessD] Australia - find nearest location


> Cowpoke, Kentucky :) Beautiful women, fast horses, and smooth bourbon. :)
>
> Susan H.
>
> Not sure where Susan lives - but were not that civilised........
> :)
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From ssharkins at bellsouth.net  Wed Jun 15 20:42:48 2005
From: ssharkins at bellsouth.net (Susan Harkins)
Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2005 21:42:48 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Australia - find nearest location
In-Reply-To: <BAY103-DAV434E3838C823F7E1D2F72AEF50@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <20050616014247.HBTZ25209.ibm63aec.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>

You've been here?????????? ;) 

I'm sorry -- that's my absolute last -- William, do NOT respond or we're
going to get spanked! ;) 

Susan H. 

..the way I heard it was ...fast women, beautiful horses, and hard liquor
..not necessarily in that order :)))



From Bruce.Bruen at railcorp.nsw.gov.au  Wed Jun 15 20:58:43 2005
From: Bruce.Bruen at railcorp.nsw.gov.au (Bruen, Bruce)
Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2005 11:58:43 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] Australia - find nearest location
Message-ID: <F2BE8EAB3EA585418337B71BCE6F3BF304EBBD@msmet100.rail.nsw.gov.au>

"Basically what I need to know is whether proximity in number =
proximity in distance - I am guessing that it won't always be the
case..."

You have guessed correctly.  It wont work, a) the original postcodes
were allocated as a loose function of distance from the mail clearance
centre - (way back in the 60's??)
b)since then new codes have been allocated and old ones modified and
reallocated under a series of illogic that thoroughly eliminates any
possibility of determining relative geographic co-ordinates across
Australia.  However, there is a correlation between a postcode and a
thing, IIRC, a mail delivery point (which in some cases goes down to a
building or even a location within a building.) APO has occassionally
published this database but I haven't seen or had any use for it for
over 4 years - so I've lost the access to it.

Sensis, yahoo/local and even the website that lists your company have
functionality that provides this type of lookup but I'm d*mned if I know
how they do it.

regards
bruce


-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Kath Pelletti
Sent: Tuesday, 14 June 2005 7:06 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Australia - find nearest location

Thanks Michael - I think I need to learn about the way / rules that
postcodes are allocated in my region - that way I may be able to create
some sort of process. Just thought someone may have looked into that
before.

Basically what I need to know is whether proximity in number = proximity
in distance - I am guessing that it won't always be the case...

Kath


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  From: Michael Maddison
  To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
  Sent: Friday, June 10, 2005 10:48 AM
  Subject: RE: [AccessD] Australia - find nearest location


  Never tried myself, but the discussions here recently on MapPoint
might
  lead the way.

  cheers

  Michael M

  Hi all - Just wondering whether there happens to be anyone on list who
  may already have done this - 

  I'm writing a new system for a training company and they want add a
  geographic search capability - ie. they would like to enter a suburb
or
  postcode and the system displays will show the courses which run
closest
  to them geographically.

  Any tips? Or if anyone has done this at all - can you tell me what
your
  approach was?

  Thanks - rgds

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From bchacc at san.rr.com  Thu Jun 16 00:35:24 2005
From: bchacc at san.rr.com (Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software)
Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2005 22:35:24 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Design View Increment
References: <018701c571d1$2c609d80$6801a8c0@HAL9004>
	<6.2.1.2.0.20050616055031.02b302d0@mail.dalyn.co.nz>
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Can't get it to behave correctly in 2003.

Rocky

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Subject: Re: [AccessD] Design View Increment


> Rocky,
>
> I don't have A2003 but have noticed funny behaviour in A2002 - sometimes 
> holding the Ctrl key combination behaves as if the Snap To Grid option is 
> checked in the format menu bar (ie with large increments).  Then when I 
> check the Snap to Grid option, the Ctrl combination works with small 
> increments and not larger ones. :-\
>
> Regards
>
> David Emerson
> Dalyn Software Ltd
> 25 Cunliffe St, Churton Park
> Wellington, New Zealand
> Ph/Fax (04) 478-7456
> Mobile 027-280-9348
>
> At 16/06/2005, you wrote:
>>Dear List:
>>
>>I use the control and arrow keys to move controls around on forms and 
>>reports because of the fine control your get that way.  In Access 2000 the 
>>increment (ctrl-Up Arrow, for instance) was very small. I recently moved 
>>to Access 2003 and the increment is very large.  I tries increasing the 
>>Grid X Grid Y values but it didn't help.
>>
>>Is there a setting that controls the increment?
>>
>>MTIA,
>>
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From Erwin.Craps at ithelps.be  Thu Jun 16 06:43:18 2005
From: Erwin.Craps at ithelps.be (Erwin Craps - IT Helps)
Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2005 13:43:18 +0200
Subject: [AccessD] Urgent help needed with IIS
	server.CreateObject("ADODB.Connection")
Message-ID: <46B976F2B698FF46A4FE7636509B22DF1B5C7F@stekelbes.ithelps.local>

 
I'm getting desperate over here.
 
Yesterday I installed this mont security fixes on my W2K server.
I also took the opportunity to install SQL SP4.
 
>From that reboot on, non of my database driven website no longer
functions.
 
For both "JET 4 MDB" and "SQL server" access I get an error on this
command where it always used to work before the updates. 
failing command server.CreateObject("ADODB.Connection")
Retunred error
Server object error 'ASP 0178 : 80070005' 
Server.CreateObject Access Error
The call to Server.CreateObject failed while checking permissions.
Access is denied to this object. 
 

 

I checked al my NTFS permissons according to the MSKB, but I believe
everything is ok.

Anyway, it worked for years before this update.

 

Is this a bug in the windows fiexes????

 

 

 

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From nkling at co.montgomery.ny.us  Thu Jun 16 07:16:06 2005
From: nkling at co.montgomery.ny.us (Neal Kling)
Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2005 08:16:06 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Urgent help needed with
	IISserver.CreateObject("ADODB.Connection")
Message-ID: <30BC111F638EB54082001A7E7282FE41114D4A@elmo.co.montgomery.ny.us>

Google returned this possibility

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and

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Sent: Thursday, June 16, 2005 7:43 AM
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Subject: [AccessD] Urgent help needed with
IISserver.CreateObject("ADODB.Connection")
Importance: High


 
I'm getting desperate over here.
 
Yesterday I installed this mont security fixes on my W2K server.
I also took the opportunity to install SQL SP4.
 
>From that reboot on, non of my database driven website no longer
functions.
 
For both "JET 4 MDB" and "SQL server" access I get an error on this
command where it always used to work before the updates. 
failing command server.CreateObject("ADODB.Connection")
Retunred error
Server object error 'ASP 0178 : 80070005' 
Server.CreateObject Access Error
The call to Server.CreateObject failed while checking permissions.
Access is denied to this object. 
 

 

I checked al my NTFS permissons according to the MSKB, but I believe
everything is ok.

Anyway, it worked for years before this update.

 

Is this a bug in the windows fiexes????

 

 

 

Erwin Craps

Zaakvoerder 

www.ithelps.be/onsgezin

 

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From Erwin.Craps at ithelps.be  Thu Jun 16 07:36:56 2005
From: Erwin.Craps at ithelps.be (Erwin Craps - IT Helps)
Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2005 14:36:56 +0200
Subject: [AccessD] Urgent help needed
	withIISserver.CreateObject("ADODB.Connection")
Message-ID: <46B976F2B698FF46A4FE7636509B22DF1B5C80@stekelbes.ithelps.local>

Already checked those, was already OK.

It is however a security issue, turning of anonimous access and loggin
on as a administrator works. Afterwards I can put back anonymous on and
it still works until reboot.

So there must be a DLL with insuffciant rights that needs to be launched
with IUSR rights.
Some dll must be changed while installing these fixes and lost its IUSR
or everyone rights.
But which one, I already checked "common Files\system\ado", "common
Files\system\msadc", "common Files\system\ole db",
"system32\msvbvm50.dll" and "system32\msvbvm60.dll"
 
Erwin


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[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Neal Kling
Sent: Thursday, June 16, 2005 2:16 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Urgent help needed
withIISserver.CreateObject("ADODB.Connection")

Google returned this possibility

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012%40TK2MSFTNGP15.phx.gbl%3E

and

http://support.microsoft.com/kb/198432/EN-US/

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[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Erwin Craps -
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Sent: Thursday, June 16, 2005 7:43 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: [AccessD] Urgent help needed with
IISserver.CreateObject("ADODB.Connection")
Importance: High


 
I'm getting desperate over here.
 
Yesterday I installed this mont security fixes on my W2K server.
I also took the opportunity to install SQL SP4.
 
>From that reboot on, non of my database driven website no longer
functions.
 
For both "JET 4 MDB" and "SQL server" access I get an error on this
command where it always used to work before the updates. 
failing command server.CreateObject("ADODB.Connection")
Retunred error
Server object error 'ASP 0178 : 80070005' 
Server.CreateObject Access Error
The call to Server.CreateObject failed while checking permissions.
Access is denied to this object. 
 

 

I checked al my NTFS permissons according to the MSKB, but I believe
everything is ok.

Anyway, it worked for years before this update.

 

Is this a bug in the windows fiexes????

 

 

 

Erwin Craps

Zaakvoerder 

www.ithelps.be/onsgezin

 

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From Erwin.Craps at ithelps.be  Thu Jun 16 09:20:39 2005
From: Erwin.Craps at ithelps.be (Erwin Craps - IT Helps)
Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2005 16:20:39 +0200
Subject: [AccessD] Urgent help
	neededwithIISserver.CreateObject("ADODB.Connection")
Message-ID: <46B976F2B698FF46A4FE7636509B22DF1B5C81@stekelbes.ithelps.local>

I still havent found the origin of the problem but it is related to the
windows updates of last night or the SQL SP4.

I have workaround the problem by this.
Starting from a freshly booted server.

Turn of anonymous access for one of the database driven webs/subwebs.
Goto the the database driven webpage.
A login popup screen asks for the loging >>> ignore it by canceling.
The page loads normaly with access to the database.
Turn back on the anonymous access so the popup is no longer presented to
the user.

All website now function again until reboot...
So it is clearly a security issue with the IUSR account, I believe there
a problem with the synchronisation of this password.
Executing "cscript.exe adsutil.vbs get w3svc/anonymoususerpass" to
retrieve the password results in a "Parameter anonymoususerpass not set
in this node" error.

So when deactivating the anonymous option, I supose it load with some
other right (everyone???).
Posibly some dll with missing IUSR ReX rights.

My website (database part) is already down for almost 24 hours now..





 

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Erwin Craps -
IT Helps
Sent: Thursday, June 16, 2005 2:37 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Urgent help
neededwithIISserver.CreateObject("ADODB.Connection")

Already checked those, was already OK.

It is however a security issue, turning of anonimous access and loggin
on as a administrator works. Afterwards I can put back anonymous on and
it still works until reboot.

So there must be a DLL with insuffciant rights that needs to be launched
with IUSR rights.
Some dll must be changed while installing these fixes and lost its IUSR
or everyone rights.
But which one, I already checked "common Files\system\ado", "common
Files\system\msadc", "common Files\system\ole db",
"system32\msvbvm50.dll" and "system32\msvbvm60.dll"
 
Erwin


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[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Neal Kling
Sent: Thursday, June 16, 2005 2:16 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Urgent help needed
withIISserver.CreateObject("ADODB.Connection")

Google returned this possibility

http://www.developersdex.com/asp/message.asp?p=575&ID=%3C%23J3kRXQyEHA.2
012%40TK2MSFTNGP15.phx.gbl%3E

and

http://support.microsoft.com/kb/198432/EN-US/

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[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Erwin Craps -
IT Helps
Sent: Thursday, June 16, 2005 7:43 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: [AccessD] Urgent help needed with
IISserver.CreateObject("ADODB.Connection")
Importance: High


 
I'm getting desperate over here.
 
Yesterday I installed this mont security fixes on my W2K server.
I also took the opportunity to install SQL SP4.
 
>From that reboot on, non of my database driven website no longer
functions.
 
For both "JET 4 MDB" and "SQL server" access I get an error on this
command where it always used to work before the updates. 
failing command server.CreateObject("ADODB.Connection")
Retunred error
Server object error 'ASP 0178 : 80070005' 
Server.CreateObject Access Error
The call to Server.CreateObject failed while checking permissions.
Access is denied to this object. 
 

 

I checked al my NTFS permissons according to the MSKB, but I believe
everything is ok.

Anyway, it worked for years before this update.

 

Is this a bug in the windows fiexes????

 

 

 

Erwin Craps

Zaakvoerder 

www.ithelps.be/onsgezin

 

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From accessd at shaw.ca  Thu Jun 16 10:06:54 2005
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2005 08:06:54 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Urgent help needed with
	IISserver.CreateObject("ADODB.Connection")
In-Reply-To: <46B976F2B698FF46A4FE7636509B22DF1B5C7F@stekelbes.ithelps.local>
Message-ID: <0II600MHTNBGJZ@l-daemon>

Hi Erwin:

Have you seen this article from MS?
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/198432/EN-US/

<Microsoft>
Solution:
You need to give the IUSR_<machine_name> account permissions to launch and
access your OOP COM object using dcomcnfg by doing the following: 
1. Launch DCOMCNFG by clicking the Start button, selecting Run, and typing
"Dcomcnfg" in the Run dialog box.  
2. In the Default Security tab, click the "Edit Default" in the "Default
Access Permissions" frame. The Registry Value Permissions dialog box
appears.  
3. Add the IUSR_<machine_name>account and the INTERACTIVE account to the
Registry Value Permissions dialog box, and click OK. 
4. In the Default Security tab, click the Edit Default in the Default Launch
Permissions frame. The Registry Value Permissions dialog box appears.  
5. Add the IUSR_<machine_name> account to the Registry Value Permissions
dialog box0, and click OK.  
</Microsoft>

HTH
Jim

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[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Erwin Craps - IT
Helps
Sent: Thursday, June 16, 2005 4:43 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: [AccessD] Urgent help needed with
IISserver.CreateObject("ADODB.Connection")
Importance: High

 
I'm getting desperate over here.
 
Yesterday I installed this mont security fixes on my W2K server.
I also took the opportunity to install SQL SP4.
 
>From that reboot on, non of my database driven website no longer
functions.
 
For both "JET 4 MDB" and "SQL server" access I get an error on this
command where it always used to work before the updates. 
failing command server.CreateObject("ADODB.Connection")
Retunred error
Server object error 'ASP 0178 : 80070005' 
Server.CreateObject Access Error
The call to Server.CreateObject failed while checking permissions.
Access is denied to this object. 
 

 

I checked al my NTFS permissons according to the MSKB, but I believe
everything is ok.

Anyway, it worked for years before this update.

 

Is this a bug in the windows fiexes????

 

 

 

Erwin Craps

Zaakvoerder 

www.ithelps.be/onsgezin

 

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From Jim.Hale at FleetPride.com  Thu Jun 16 13:06:16 2005
From: Jim.Hale at FleetPride.com (Hale, Jim)
Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2005 13:06:16 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Select case is too cumbersome
Message-ID: <6A6AA9DF57E4F046BDA1E273BDDB6772337677@corp-es01.fleetpride.com>

I have a form which lists different Excel workbooks I can populate. When I
make a selection from the form I read the path to the appropriate excel
template  and the select case number from a table. I pass these to a
function  "Public Function Load_Financials(intCaseno As Integer, strpathname
As String)" for processing. The function opens the appropriate Excel
template and, based upon the select case number, populates the template from
various recordsets and formats the workbook as appropriate. All of this
works fine. My problem is that I am up to case 40 in my select statement.
Many of the cases are quite lengthy so Load_Financials is getting out of
hand. 5 cases was no big deal, 40 and 500 lines of code is a bit much.
Surely there is a more elegant way to arrange this. For example, I read "Two
functions you don't use enough" in this month's Smart Access which suggested
each case can be placed in its own function and the EVAL function can be
used to execute them. How do ya'll handle this issue?

Jim Hale

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From darsant at gmail.com  Thu Jun 16 13:17:59 2005
From: darsant at gmail.com (Josh McFarlane)
Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2005 13:17:59 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Select case is too cumbersome
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On 6/16/05, Hale, Jim <Jim.Hale at fleetpride.com> wrote:
> I have a form which lists different Excel workbooks I can populate. When I
> make a selection from the form I read the path to the appropriate excel
> template  and the select case number from a table. I pass these to a
> function  "Public Function Load_Financials(intCaseno As Integer, strpathname
> As String)" for processing. The function opens the appropriate Excel
> template and, based upon the select case number, populates the template from
> various recordsets and formats the workbook as appropriate. All of this
> works fine. My problem is that I am up to case 40 in my select statement.
> Many of the cases are quite lengthy so Load_Financials is getting out of
> hand. 5 cases was no big deal, 40 and 500 lines of code is a bit much.
> Surely there is a more elegant way to arrange this. For example, I read "Two
> functions you don't use enough" in this month's Smart Access which suggested
> each case can be placed in its own function and the EVAL function can be
> used to execute them. How do ya'll handle this issue?
> 
> Jim Hale
> 
If you're just speaking from an Access perspective, I'd haev one
function with just the SELECT / CASE statement, then for each case,
call a seperate function for the differences.

If some of your cases have the same code for chunks, you could group
them in one function and call the function in the Case statement.

For example, creating an excel file, formating a header, formatting
the data, then saving, you could seperate it into 4 functions: Create
file (before the case), Format Header and Format Data within the case,
then Save File / Write Data at the end.

This way you would have a set of stable functions and can save
yourself from redundant work / large files.

-- 
Josh McFarlane
"Peace cannot be kept by force. It can only be achieved by understanding."
-Albert Einstein


From marcus at tsstech.com  Thu Jun 16 13:26:07 2005
From: marcus at tsstech.com (Scott Marcus)
Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2005 14:26:07 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Select case is too cumbersome
Message-ID: <B7B1803D6973C84F97D412AFCDA8EA7D023BC44D@2003exchg.TSS.AD>

Why not this?

Public Function Load_Financials(intCaseno As Integer, strpathname As
String)
	Select Case intCaseno
		Case 1
			Call SubroutineForFirstCase(strpathname)
		Case 2
            	Call SubroutineForSecondCase(strpathname)
			.
			.
			.
		Case n
			Call SubroutineForNthCase(strpathname)
	End Select
End Function

Private Sub SubroutineForFirstCase(strpathname as string)
	'Do some work.
End Sub

Scott Marcus
TSS Technologies, Inc.
marcus at tsstech.com
 




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From Jim.Hale at FleetPride.com  Thu Jun 16 14:29:17 2005
From: Jim.Hale at FleetPride.com (Hale, Jim)
Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2005 14:29:17 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Select case is too cumbersome
Message-ID: <6A6AA9DF57E4F046BDA1E273BDDB6772337678@corp-es01.fleetpride.com>

I think what you suggest is doable. I have created a class that handles
opening and saving the Excel spreadsheet. I think  much of the remaining
code deals with opening recordsets and pasting data. I think I'll create a
table to hold all the query names and work sheet names and execute the paste
function as a method from within my class. This will still leave a fairly
bodacious, if somewhat slimmed down, select statement. The trick as you
suggest is to identify the truly repeating elements and build functions.
Anyone used used the EVAL function like the Article I mentioned suggests?

Jim Hale

-----Original Message-----
From: Josh McFarlane [mailto:darsant at gmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, June 16, 2005 1:18 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Select case is too cumbersome


On 6/16/05, Hale, Jim <Jim.Hale at fleetpride.com> wrote:
> I have a form which lists different Excel workbooks I can populate. When I
> make a selection from the form I read the path to the appropriate excel
> template  and the select case number from a table. I pass these to a
> function  "Public Function Load_Financials(intCaseno As Integer,
strpathname
> As String)" for processing. The function opens the appropriate Excel
> template and, based upon the select case number, populates the template
from
> various recordsets and formats the workbook as appropriate. All of this
> works fine. My problem is that I am up to case 40 in my select statement.
> Many of the cases are quite lengthy so Load_Financials is getting out of
> hand. 5 cases was no big deal, 40 and 500 lines of code is a bit much.
> Surely there is a more elegant way to arrange this. For example, I read
"Two
> functions you don't use enough" in this month's Smart Access which
suggested
> each case can be placed in its own function and the EVAL function can be
> used to execute them. How do ya'll handle this issue?
> 
> Jim Hale
> 
If you're just speaking from an Access perspective, I'd haev one
function with just the SELECT / CASE statement, then for each case,
call a seperate function for the differences.

If some of your cases have the same code for chunks, you could group
them in one function and call the function in the Case statement.

For example, creating an excel file, formating a header, formatting
the data, then saving, you could seperate it into 4 functions: Create
file (before the case), Format Header and Format Data within the case,
then Save File / Write Data at the end.

This way you would have a set of stable functions and can save
yourself from redundant work / large files.

-- 
Josh McFarlane
"Peace cannot be kept by force. It can only be achieved by understanding."
-Albert Einstein
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From dejpolsys at hotmail.com  Thu Jun 16 15:15:29 2005
From: dejpolsys at hotmail.com (William Hindman)
Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2005 16:15:29 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Select case is too cumbersome
References: <6A6AA9DF57E4F046BDA1E273BDDB6772337678@corp-es01.fleetpride.com>
Message-ID: <BAY103-DAV13E85EF2EADEDEF38F2062AEF50@phx.gbl>

..I'm missing something here (not the first time) ...but why are you using 
a select here rather than building a combo on the fly and using that 
instead? ...rename all the applicable queries from qryxxx to zqryxxx and 
fill your combo with a qry on zqryxxx ...much faster than a select and you 
don't have to recode it everytime you add a new qry.

William

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Hale, Jim" <Jim.Hale at fleetpride.com>
To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'" 
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Thursday, June 16, 2005 3:29 PM
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Select case is too cumbersome


>I think what you suggest is doable. I have created a class that handles
> opening and saving the Excel spreadsheet. I think  much of the remaining
> code deals with opening recordsets and pasting data. I think I'll create a
> table to hold all the query names and work sheet names and execute the 
> paste
> function as a method from within my class. This will still leave a fairly
> bodacious, if somewhat slimmed down, select statement. The trick as you
> suggest is to identify the truly repeating elements and build functions.
> Anyone used used the EVAL function like the Article I mentioned suggests?
>
> Jim Hale
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Josh McFarlane [mailto:darsant at gmail.com]
> Sent: Thursday, June 16, 2005 1:18 PM
> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] Select case is too cumbersome
>
>
> On 6/16/05, Hale, Jim <Jim.Hale at fleetpride.com> wrote:
>> I have a form which lists different Excel workbooks I can populate. When 
>> I
>> make a selection from the form I read the path to the appropriate excel
>> template  and the select case number from a table. I pass these to a
>> function  "Public Function Load_Financials(intCaseno As Integer,
> strpathname
>> As String)" for processing. The function opens the appropriate Excel
>> template and, based upon the select case number, populates the template
> from
>> various recordsets and formats the workbook as appropriate. All of this
>> works fine. My problem is that I am up to case 40 in my select statement.
>> Many of the cases are quite lengthy so Load_Financials is getting out of
>> hand. 5 cases was no big deal, 40 and 500 lines of code is a bit much.
>> Surely there is a more elegant way to arrange this. For example, I read
> "Two
>> functions you don't use enough" in this month's Smart Access which
> suggested
>> each case can be placed in its own function and the EVAL function can be
>> used to execute them. How do ya'll handle this issue?
>>
>> Jim Hale
>>
> If you're just speaking from an Access perspective, I'd haev one
> function with just the SELECT / CASE statement, then for each case,
> call a seperate function for the differences.
>
> If some of your cases have the same code for chunks, you could group
> them in one function and call the function in the Case statement.
>
> For example, creating an excel file, formating a header, formatting
> the data, then saving, you could seperate it into 4 functions: Create
> file (before the case), Format Header and Format Data within the case,
> then Save File / Write Data at the end.
>
> This way you would have a set of stable functions and can save
> yourself from redundant work / large files.
>
> -- 
> Josh McFarlane
> "Peace cannot be kept by force. It can only be achieved by understanding."
> -Albert Einstein
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From martyconnelly at shaw.ca  Thu Jun 16 15:19:37 2005
From: martyconnelly at shaw.ca (MartyConnelly)
Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2005 13:19:37 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] ms access 2003 query
References: <BAY102-F288F0228CF80914D081583ABF20@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <42B1DED9.2050102@shaw.ca>

Ah you are trying to toggle the control wizards button on the toolbox 
menu in form design view.
If anyone else is wondering why this is needed, we have a blind 
programmer here.
An accomplishment with Access GUI.

Create a function in modules like this

Function toggleControlWizard()
Dim ctl As Variant
For Each ctl In CommandBars("Toolbox").Controls
'  Debug.Print ctl.Caption 'List all Caption Names
  If ctl.Caption = "Control &Wizards" Then
  'toggle the button on of off
  ctl.Execute
  End If
Next

Then create a special macro called "autokeys"
There is a catch 22 for you here you have to toggle macro names on
but you can set this to be automatically turned on for all Access via 
this menu sequence
Tools --> Options --> View
There are two check boxes under this part of menu Show in Macro Design
Check off both.
Names Column
Conditions Column

Now open up a new Macro

under macro name put a control key sequence I chose CTRL - F12 as it is 
not used much

^{F12}
under Action put
RunCode
under Action put
Beep
This will give you an auditory clue.

in function name
toggleControlWizard()
save the autokeys macro call it autokeys

Now in Forms Design
Pressing CTL + F12
will toggle Control Wizards On and Off
Pressing this key combinations elsewhere will generate an error

You may have login and out of the mdb to initialize autokeys, can't 
remember.

There maybe another way to do this via code that I haven't puzzled out.
since it is mostly used by excel programmers.
using something like a statement of this variety using direct control of 
the IDE or as it is called VBE

With Application.VBE.CommandBars("Menu Bar").Controls("Toolbox")
See these articles
http://www.cpearson.com/excel/vbe.htm
http://www.cpearson.com/excel/vbemenus.htm





marvin hunkin wrote:

> Hi.
> some one mentioned on the list a while back, how to get round of 
> activating the advanced wizards using the tool box in ms access 2003.
> how to get round, having no short cut keys, and no way to activate the 
> say command button wizard in form or report design of a form or report 
> in ms access 2003.
> if any one got any tips on how to get round this problem, without 
> dragging and dropping the mouse, and tried the jaws drag and drop 
> feature, but still would not activate it without sighted assistance.
> did ask freedom scientific, but had no plans to fix this problem, and 
> did report it to tech support over 12 months ago before jaws 6.0 came 
> out last year.
> so if any one has got me the answer i am looking for, then let me know.
> cheers Marvin.
>
>

-- 
Marty Connelly
Victoria, B.C.
Canada





From Jim.Hale at FleetPride.com  Thu Jun 16 15:54:46 2005
From: Jim.Hale at FleetPride.com (Hale, Jim)
Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2005 15:54:46 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Select case is too cumbersome
Message-ID: <6A6AA9DF57E4F046BDA1E273BDDB677233767A@corp-es01.fleetpride.com>

I don't follow. I am selecting  from a combo box the name of an excel
template to be filled. The template may require data from one or more
recordsets. Additionally, special formatting may be necessary. The way I
identify the unique code required by each template to open the separate
recordsets, paste the data, do the formatting etc.  is by assigning it a
select case no which is stored in a table. Make sense?
Jim Hale 

-----Original Message-----
From: William Hindman [mailto:dejpolsys at hotmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, June 16, 2005 3:15 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Select case is too cumbersome


..I'm missing something here (not the first time) ...but why are you using 
a select here rather than building a combo on the fly and using that 
instead? ...rename all the applicable queries from qryxxx to zqryxxx and 
fill your combo with a qry on zqryxxx ...much faster than a select and you 
don't have to recode it everytime you add a new qry.

William

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Hale, Jim" <Jim.Hale at fleetpride.com>
To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'" 
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Thursday, June 16, 2005 3:29 PM
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Select case is too cumbersome


>I think what you suggest is doable. I have created a class that handles
> opening and saving the Excel spreadsheet. I think  much of the remaining
> code deals with opening recordsets and pasting data. I think I'll create a
> table to hold all the query names and work sheet names and execute the 
> paste
> function as a method from within my class. This will still leave a fairly
> bodacious, if somewhat slimmed down, select statement. The trick as you
> suggest is to identify the truly repeating elements and build functions.
> Anyone used used the EVAL function like the Article I mentioned suggests?
>
> Jim Hale
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Josh McFarlane [mailto:darsant at gmail.com]
> Sent: Thursday, June 16, 2005 1:18 PM
> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] Select case is too cumbersome
>
>
> On 6/16/05, Hale, Jim <Jim.Hale at fleetpride.com> wrote:
>> I have a form which lists different Excel workbooks I can populate. When 
>> I
>> make a selection from the form I read the path to the appropriate excel
>> template  and the select case number from a table. I pass these to a
>> function  "Public Function Load_Financials(intCaseno As Integer,
> strpathname
>> As String)" for processing. The function opens the appropriate Excel
>> template and, based upon the select case number, populates the template
> from
>> various recordsets and formats the workbook as appropriate. All of this
>> works fine. My problem is that I am up to case 40 in my select statement.
>> Many of the cases are quite lengthy so Load_Financials is getting out of
>> hand. 5 cases was no big deal, 40 and 500 lines of code is a bit much.
>> Surely there is a more elegant way to arrange this. For example, I read
> "Two
>> functions you don't use enough" in this month's Smart Access which
> suggested
>> each case can be placed in its own function and the EVAL function can be
>> used to execute them. How do ya'll handle this issue?
>>
>> Jim Hale
>>
> If you're just speaking from an Access perspective, I'd haev one
> function with just the SELECT / CASE statement, then for each case,
> call a seperate function for the differences.
>
> If some of your cases have the same code for chunks, you could group
> them in one function and call the function in the Case statement.
>
> For example, creating an excel file, formating a header, formatting
> the data, then saving, you could seperate it into 4 functions: Create
> file (before the case), Format Header and Format Data within the case,
> then Save File / Write Data at the end.
>
> This way you would have a set of stable functions and can save
> yourself from redundant work / large files.
>
> -- 
> Josh McFarlane
> "Peace cannot be kept by force. It can only be achieved by understanding."
> -Albert Einstein
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From bchacc at san.rr.com  Thu Jun 16 16:18:00 2005
From: bchacc at san.rr.com (Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software)
Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2005 14:18:00 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Print To Picture
Message-ID: <0cf901c572b8$e01441a0$6801a8c0@HAL9004>

Dear List:

I have a great utility on my old machine called print to picture.  Installs like a printer and will print to a file which you can then copy into a word doc.  I need it on my new machine but can't find it anymore.  Anyone know where it is?

TIA,

Rocky Smolin
Beach Access Software
http://www.e-z-mrp.com
858-259-4334


From dejpolsys at hotmail.com  Thu Jun 16 16:24:43 2005
From: dejpolsys at hotmail.com (William Hindman)
Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2005 17:24:43 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Select case is too cumbersome
References: <6A6AA9DF57E4F046BDA1E273BDDB677233767A@corp-es01.fleetpride.com>
Message-ID: <BAY103-DAV108B1523A4F5765C334520AEF50@phx.gbl>

..if you're selecting a template from a combo why not have it open another 
cascading combo with the options for the selected template rather than a 
lengthy select operation which requires recoding every time you change 
something?

William

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Hale, Jim" <Jim.Hale at fleetpride.com>
To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'" 
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Thursday, June 16, 2005 4:54 PM
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Select case is too cumbersome


>I don't follow. I am selecting  from a combo box the name of an excel
> template to be filled. The template may require data from one or more
> recordsets. Additionally, special formatting may be necessary. The way I
> identify the unique code required by each template to open the separate
> recordsets, paste the data, do the formatting etc.  is by assigning it a
> select case no which is stored in a table. Make sense?
> Jim Hale
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: William Hindman [mailto:dejpolsys at hotmail.com]
> Sent: Thursday, June 16, 2005 3:15 PM
> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] Select case is too cumbersome
>
>
> ..I'm missing something here (not the first time) ...but why are you using
> a select here rather than building a combo on the fly and using that
> instead? ...rename all the applicable queries from qryxxx to zqryxxx and
> fill your combo with a qry on zqryxxx ...much faster than a select and you
> don't have to recode it everytime you add a new qry.
>
> William
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Hale, Jim" <Jim.Hale at fleetpride.com>
> To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'"
> <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
> Sent: Thursday, June 16, 2005 3:29 PM
> Subject: RE: [AccessD] Select case is too cumbersome
>
>
>>I think what you suggest is doable. I have created a class that handles
>> opening and saving the Excel spreadsheet. I think  much of the remaining
>> code deals with opening recordsets and pasting data. I think I'll create 
>> a
>> table to hold all the query names and work sheet names and execute the
>> paste
>> function as a method from within my class. This will still leave a fairly
>> bodacious, if somewhat slimmed down, select statement. The trick as you
>> suggest is to identify the truly repeating elements and build functions.
>> Anyone used used the EVAL function like the Article I mentioned suggests?
>>
>> Jim Hale
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Josh McFarlane [mailto:darsant at gmail.com]
>> Sent: Thursday, June 16, 2005 1:18 PM
>> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
>> Subject: Re: [AccessD] Select case is too cumbersome
>>
>>
>> On 6/16/05, Hale, Jim <Jim.Hale at fleetpride.com> wrote:
>>> I have a form which lists different Excel workbooks I can populate. When
>>> I
>>> make a selection from the form I read the path to the appropriate excel
>>> template  and the select case number from a table. I pass these to a
>>> function  "Public Function Load_Financials(intCaseno As Integer,
>> strpathname
>>> As String)" for processing. The function opens the appropriate Excel
>>> template and, based upon the select case number, populates the template
>> from
>>> various recordsets and formats the workbook as appropriate. All of this
>>> works fine. My problem is that I am up to case 40 in my select 
>>> statement.
>>> Many of the cases are quite lengthy so Load_Financials is getting out of
>>> hand. 5 cases was no big deal, 40 and 500 lines of code is a bit much.
>>> Surely there is a more elegant way to arrange this. For example, I read
>> "Two
>>> functions you don't use enough" in this month's Smart Access which
>> suggested
>>> each case can be placed in its own function and the EVAL function can be
>>> used to execute them. How do ya'll handle this issue?
>>>
>>> Jim Hale
>>>
>> If you're just speaking from an Access perspective, I'd haev one
>> function with just the SELECT / CASE statement, then for each case,
>> call a seperate function for the differences.
>>
>> If some of your cases have the same code for chunks, you could group
>> them in one function and call the function in the Case statement.
>>
>> For example, creating an excel file, formating a header, formatting
>> the data, then saving, you could seperate it into 4 functions: Create
>> file (before the case), Format Header and Format Data within the case,
>> then Save File / Write Data at the end.
>>
>> This way you would have a set of stable functions and can save
>> yourself from redundant work / large files.
>>
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From dejpolsys at hotmail.com  Thu Jun 16 16:40:14 2005
From: dejpolsys at hotmail.com (William Hindman)
Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2005 17:40:14 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Print To Picture
References: <0cf901c572b8$e01441a0$6801a8c0@HAL9004>
Message-ID: <BAY103-DAV831AB0E750F787DD66861AEF50@phx.gbl>

http://www.verypdf.com/artprint/document-printer/print-to-picture.html
http://narod.yandex.ru/100.xhtml?progrex.narod.ru/files/ptp102.zip

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To: <AccessD at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Thursday, June 16, 2005 5:18 PM
Subject: [AccessD] Print To Picture


Dear List:

I have a great utility on my old machine called print to picture.  Installs 
like a printer and will print to a file which you can then copy into a word 
doc.  I need it on my new machine but can't find it anymore.  Anyone know 
where it is?

TIA,

Rocky Smolin
Beach Access Software
http://www.e-z-mrp.com
858-259-4334
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From bchacc at san.rr.com  Thu Jun 16 16:44:21 2005
From: bchacc at san.rr.com (Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software)
Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2005 14:44:21 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Print To Picture
References: <0cf901c572b8$e01441a0$6801a8c0@HAL9004>
Message-ID: <0d5001c572bc$8e5d1450$6801a8c0@HAL9004>

Never mind.  Found the .exe on my old machine.  But the original link is 
404.  So if anyone wants it, I've got it.

Rocky

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To: <AccessD at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Thursday, June 16, 2005 2:18 PM
Subject: [AccessD] Print To Picture


Dear List:

I have a great utility on my old machine called print to picture.  Installs 
like a printer and will print to a file which you can then copy into a word 
doc.  I need it on my new machine but can't find it anymore.  Anyone know 
where it is?

TIA,

Rocky Smolin
Beach Access Software
http://www.e-z-mrp.com
858-259-4334
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From JHewson at karta.com  Thu Jun 16 16:50:35 2005
From: JHewson at karta.com (Jim Hewson)
Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2005 16:50:35 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Print To Picture
Message-ID: <9C382E065F54AE48BC3AA7925DCBB01C0362957B@karta-exc-int.Karta.com>

Sounds like a useful tool.
I've never heard of 404.  I'd like to be able to get it.
Thanks,
Jim 

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Rocky Smolin
- Beach Access Software
Sent: Thursday, June 16, 2005 4:44 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Print To Picture

Never mind.  Found the .exe on my old machine.  But the original link is
404.  So if anyone wants it, I've got it.

Rocky

----- Original Message -----
From: "Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software" <bchacc at san.rr.com>
To: <AccessD at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Thursday, June 16, 2005 2:18 PM
Subject: [AccessD] Print To Picture


Dear List:

I have a great utility on my old machine called print to picture.
Installs 
like a printer and will print to a file which you can then copy into a
word 
doc.  I need it on my new machine but can't find it anymore.  Anyone
know 
where it is?

TIA,

Rocky Smolin
Beach Access Software
http://www.e-z-mrp.com
858-259-4334
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From cfoust at infostatsystems.com  Thu Jun 16 16:58:22 2005
From: cfoust at infostatsystems.com (Charlotte Foust)
Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2005 14:58:22 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Print To Picture
Message-ID: <E61FC1D4B1918244905B113C680BEA86873AAC@infoserver01.infostat.local>

LOL!  Just find any invalid link.

Charlotte Foust


-----Original Message-----
From: Jim Hewson [mailto:JHewson at karta.com] 
Sent: Thursday, June 16, 2005 2:51 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Print To Picture


Sounds like a useful tool.
I've never heard of 404.  I'd like to be able to get it. Thanks, Jim 

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Rocky Smolin
- Beach Access Software
Sent: Thursday, June 16, 2005 4:44 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Print To Picture

Never mind.  Found the .exe on my old machine.  But the original link is
404.  So if anyone wants it, I've got it.

Rocky

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From: "Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software" <bchacc at san.rr.com>
To: <AccessD at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Thursday, June 16, 2005 2:18 PM
Subject: [AccessD] Print To Picture


Dear List:

I have a great utility on my old machine called print to picture.
Installs 
like a printer and will print to a file which you can then copy into a
word 
doc.  I need it on my new machine but can't find it anymore.  Anyone
know 
where it is?

TIA,

Rocky Smolin
Beach Access Software
http://www.e-z-mrp.com
858-259-4334
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From dejpolsys at hotmail.com  Thu Jun 16 17:01:45 2005
From: dejpolsys at hotmail.com (William Hindman)
Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2005 18:01:45 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Print To Picture
References: <9C382E065F54AE48BC3AA7925DCBB01C0362957B@karta-exc-int.Karta.com>
Message-ID: <BAY103-DAV22EF9AB0C5CC2169B84B9AEF50@phx.gbl>

..never heard of 404? ...lucky man! :)

William
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Jim Hewson" <JHewson at karta.com>
To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving" 
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Thursday, June 16, 2005 5:50 PM
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Print To Picture


> Sounds like a useful tool.
> I've never heard of 404.  I'd like to be able to get it.
> Thanks,
> Jim
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Rocky Smolin
> - Beach Access Software
> Sent: Thursday, June 16, 2005 4:44 PM
> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] Print To Picture
>
> Never mind.  Found the .exe on my old machine.  But the original link is
> 404.  So if anyone wants it, I've got it.
>
> Rocky
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software" <bchacc at san.rr.com>
> To: <AccessD at databaseadvisors.com>
> Sent: Thursday, June 16, 2005 2:18 PM
> Subject: [AccessD] Print To Picture
>
>
> Dear List:
>
> I have a great utility on my old machine called print to picture.
> Installs
> like a printer and will print to a file which you can then copy into a
> word
> doc.  I need it on my new machine but can't find it anymore.  Anyone
> know
> where it is?
>
> TIA,
>
> Rocky Smolin
> Beach Access Software
> http://www.e-z-mrp.com
> 858-259-4334
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From bchacc at san.rr.com  Thu Jun 16 17:17:13 2005
From: bchacc at san.rr.com (Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software)
Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2005 15:17:13 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Print To Picture
References: <9C382E065F54AE48BC3AA7925DCBB01C0362957B@karta-exc-int.Karta.com>
Message-ID: <0d9301c572c1$25a56ca0$6801a8c0@HAL9004>

404 means a broken link.  I'll send it to you off line, however.  It's from 
a Russian guy who apparently has taken his site down.  It installs like a 
printer and when you print to it it produces either a .PCX or .BMP format 
which you can insert into a word doc.  I used it to put sample reports into 
a manual.

Regards,

Rocky Smolin
Beach Access Software
http://www.e-z-mrp.com
858-259-4334

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Jim Hewson" <JHewson at karta.com>
To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving" 
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Thursday, June 16, 2005 2:50 PM
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Print To Picture


> Sounds like a useful tool.
> I've never heard of 404.  I'd like to be able to get it.
> Thanks,
> Jim
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Rocky Smolin
> - Beach Access Software
> Sent: Thursday, June 16, 2005 4:44 PM
> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] Print To Picture
>
> Never mind.  Found the .exe on my old machine.  But the original link is
> 404.  So if anyone wants it, I've got it.
>
> Rocky
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software" <bchacc at san.rr.com>
> To: <AccessD at databaseadvisors.com>
> Sent: Thursday, June 16, 2005 2:18 PM
> Subject: [AccessD] Print To Picture
>
>
> Dear List:
>
> I have a great utility on my old machine called print to picture.
> Installs
> like a printer and will print to a file which you can then copy into a
> word
> doc.  I need it on my new machine but can't find it anymore.  Anyone
> know
> where it is?
>
> TIA,
>
> Rocky Smolin
> Beach Access Software
> http://www.e-z-mrp.com
> 858-259-4334
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From dmcafee at pacbell.net  Thu Jun 16 17:53:48 2005
From: dmcafee at pacbell.net (dmcafee at pacbell.net)
Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2005 15:53:48 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Print To Picture
In-Reply-To: <0d9301c572c1$25a56ca0$6801a8c0@HAL9004>
Message-ID: <KDEHKEMIOHGKCDHLPPLKOEFKFFAA.dmcafee@pacbell.net>

So it's easier to use than Alt+Print Screen and Ctrl+V?

I guess no editing.

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Rocky Smolin -
Beach Access Software
Sent: Thursday, June 16, 2005 3:17 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Print To Picture


404 means a broken link.  I'll send it to you off line, however.  It's from
a Russian guy who apparently has taken his site down.  It installs like a
printer and when you print to it it produces either a .PCX or .BMP format
which you can insert into a word doc.  I used it to put sample reports into
a manual.

Regards,

Rocky Smolin
Beach Access Software
http://www.e-z-mrp.com
858-259-4334

----- Original Message -----
From: "Jim Hewson" <JHewson at karta.com>
To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving"
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Thursday, June 16, 2005 2:50 PM
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Print To Picture


> Sounds like a useful tool.
> I've never heard of 404.  I'd like to be able to get it.
> Thanks,
> Jim
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Rocky Smolin
> - Beach Access Software
> Sent: Thursday, June 16, 2005 4:44 PM
> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] Print To Picture
>
> Never mind.  Found the .exe on my old machine.  But the original link is
> 404.  So if anyone wants it, I've got it.
>
> Rocky
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software" <bchacc at san.rr.com>
> To: <AccessD at databaseadvisors.com>
> Sent: Thursday, June 16, 2005 2:18 PM
> Subject: [AccessD] Print To Picture
>
>
> Dear List:
>
> I have a great utility on my old machine called print to picture.
> Installs
> like a printer and will print to a file which you can then copy into a
> word
> doc.  I need it on my new machine but can't find it anymore.  Anyone
> know
> where it is?
>
> TIA,
>
> Rocky Smolin
> Beach Access Software
> http://www.e-z-mrp.com
> 858-259-4334
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From KP at sdsonline.net  Thu Jun 16 18:08:57 2005
From: KP at sdsonline.net (Kath Pelletti)
Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2005 09:08:57 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] Australia - find nearest location
References: <F2BE8EAB3EA585418337B71BCE6F3BF304EBBD@msmet100.rail.nsw.gov.au>
Message-ID: <003601c572c8$608df970$6601a8c0@user>

OK - thanks Bruce. At least I know not to waste my time trying that - and if client really wants it then I know to look further....
Kath
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Bruen, Bruce 
  To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving 
  Sent: Thursday, June 16, 2005 11:58 AM
  Subject: RE: [AccessD] Australia - find nearest location


  "Basically what I need to know is whether proximity in number =
  proximity in distance - I am guessing that it won't always be the
  case..."

  You have guessed correctly.  It wont work, a) the original postcodes
  were allocated as a loose function of distance from the mail clearance
  centre - (way back in the 60's??)
  b)since then new codes have been allocated and old ones modified and
  reallocated under a series of illogic that thoroughly eliminates any
  possibility of determining relative geographic co-ordinates across
  Australia.  However, there is a correlation between a postcode and a
  thing, IIRC, a mail delivery point (which in some cases goes down to a
  building or even a location within a building.) APO has occassionally
  published this database but I haven't seen or had any use for it for
  over 4 years - so I've lost the access to it.

  Sensis, yahoo/local and even the website that lists your company have
  functionality that provides this type of lookup but I'm d*mned if I know
  how they do it.

  regards
  bruce


  -----Original Message-----
  From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
  [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Kath Pelletti
  Sent: Tuesday, 14 June 2005 7:06 PM
  To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
  Subject: Re: [AccessD] Australia - find nearest location

  Thanks Michael - I think I need to learn about the way / rules that
  postcodes are allocated in my region - that way I may be able to create
  some sort of process. Just thought someone may have looked into that
  before.

  Basically what I need to know is whether proximity in number = proximity
  in distance - I am guessing that it won't always be the case...

  Kath


  ----- Original Message -----
    From: Michael Maddison
    To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
    Sent: Friday, June 10, 2005 10:48 AM
    Subject: RE: [AccessD] Australia - find nearest location


    Never tried myself, but the discussions here recently on MapPoint
  might
    lead the way.

    cheers

    Michael M

    Hi all - Just wondering whether there happens to be anyone on list who
    may already have done this - 

    I'm writing a new system for a training company and they want add a
    geographic search capability - ie. they would like to enter a suburb
  or
    postcode and the system displays will show the courses which run
  closest
    to them geographically.

    Any tips? Or if anyone has done this at all - can you tell me what
  your
    approach was?

    Thanks - rgds

    ______________________________________________
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    Software Design & Solutions Pty Ltd.
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    Fax: 9505-6430
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From martyconnelly at shaw.ca  Thu Jun 16 18:50:56 2005
From: martyconnelly at shaw.ca (MartyConnelly)
Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2005 16:50:56 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Australia - find nearest location
References: <F2BE8EAB3EA585418337B71BCE6F3BF304EBBD@msmet100.rail.nsw.gov.au>
	<003601c572c8$608df970$6601a8c0@user>
Message-ID: <42B21060.6070003@shaw.ca>

Same thing in Canada. The post office wil provide a new postal code to a 
recently completed building complex.
However the do have a database that is purchaseable that will give the 
geo coordinates of the postal code
either to the building or the block face centroid.
Except for Santa Claus's postal code H0H0H0 and the geo centroid is sort 
of obvious.

Kath Pelletti wrote:

>OK - thanks Bruce. At least I know not to waste my time trying that - and if client really wants it then I know to look further....
>Kath
>  ----- Original Message ----- 
>  From: Bruen, Bruce 
>  To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving 
>  Sent: Thursday, June 16, 2005 11:58 AM
>  Subject: RE: [AccessD] Australia - find nearest location
>
>
>  "Basically what I need to know is whether proximity in number =
>  proximity in distance - I am guessing that it won't always be the
>  case..."
>
>  You have guessed correctly.  It wont work, a) the original postcodes
>  were allocated as a loose function of distance from the mail clearance
>  centre - (way back in the 60's??)
>  b)since then new codes have been allocated and old ones modified and
>  reallocated under a series of illogic that thoroughly eliminates any
>  possibility of determining relative geographic co-ordinates across
>  Australia.  However, there is a correlation between a postcode and a
>  thing, IIRC, a mail delivery point (which in some cases goes down to a
>  building or even a location within a building.) APO has occassionally
>  published this database but I haven't seen or had any use for it for
>  over 4 years - so I've lost the access to it.
>
>  Sensis, yahoo/local and even the website that lists your company have
>  functionality that provides this type of lookup but I'm d*mned if I know
>  how they do it.
>
>  regards
>  bruce
>
>
>  -----Original Message-----
>  From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>  [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Kath Pelletti
>  Sent: Tuesday, 14 June 2005 7:06 PM
>  To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
>  Subject: Re: [AccessD] Australia - find nearest location
>
>  Thanks Michael - I think I need to learn about the way / rules that
>  postcodes are allocated in my region - that way I may be able to create
>  some sort of process. Just thought someone may have looked into that
>  before.
>
>  Basically what I need to know is whether proximity in number = proximity
>  in distance - I am guessing that it won't always be the case...
>
>  Kath
>
>
>  ----- Original Message -----
>    From: Michael Maddison
>    To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
>    Sent: Friday, June 10, 2005 10:48 AM
>    Subject: RE: [AccessD] Australia - find nearest location
>
>
>    Never tried myself, but the discussions here recently on MapPoint
>  might
>    lead the way.
>
>    cheers
>
>    Michael M
>
>    Hi all - Just wondering whether there happens to be anyone on list who
>    may already have done this - 
>
>    I'm writing a new system for a training company and they want add a
>    geographic search capability - ie. they would like to enter a suburb
>  or
>    postcode and the system displays will show the courses which run
>  closest
>    to them geographically.
>
>    Any tips? Or if anyone has done this at all - can you tell me what
>  your
>    approach was?
>
>    Thanks - rgds
>
>    ______________________________________________
>    Kath Pelletti
>    Software Design & Solutions Pty Ltd.
>    Ph: 9505-6714
>    Fax: 9505-6430
>    KP at SDSOnline.net
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From bchacc at san.rr.com  Thu Jun 16 19:54:59 2005
From: bchacc at san.rr.com (Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software)
Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2005 17:54:59 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Print To Picture
References: <KDEHKEMIOHGKCDHLPPLKOEFKFFAA.dmcafee@pacbell.net>
Message-ID: <0e3801c572d7$2fffb730$6801a8c0@HAL9004>

I found that a screen print image was limited to the resolution of the 
screen.  Copying a full page of a report from the screen just didn't provide 
the detail needed. Alt+Print Screen and Ctrl+V works good for dropping forms 
shots into a word doc.

Rocky

----- Original Message ----- 
From: <dmcafee at pacbell.net>
To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving" 
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Thursday, June 16, 2005 3:53 PM
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Print To Picture


> So it's easier to use than Alt+Print Screen and Ctrl+V?
>
> I guess no editing.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Rocky Smolin -
> Beach Access Software
> Sent: Thursday, June 16, 2005 3:17 PM
> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] Print To Picture
>
>
> 404 means a broken link.  I'll send it to you off line, however.  It's 
> from
> a Russian guy who apparently has taken his site down.  It installs like a
> printer and when you print to it it produces either a .PCX or .BMP format
> which you can insert into a word doc.  I used it to put sample reports 
> into
> a manual.
>
> Regards,
>
> Rocky Smolin
> Beach Access Software
> http://www.e-z-mrp.com
> 858-259-4334
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Jim Hewson" <JHewson at karta.com>
> To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving"
> <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
> Sent: Thursday, June 16, 2005 2:50 PM
> Subject: RE: [AccessD] Print To Picture
>
>
>> Sounds like a useful tool.
>> I've never heard of 404.  I'd like to be able to get it.
>> Thanks,
>> Jim
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Rocky Smolin
>> - Beach Access Software
>> Sent: Thursday, June 16, 2005 4:44 PM
>> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
>> Subject: Re: [AccessD] Print To Picture
>>
>> Never mind.  Found the .exe on my old machine.  But the original link is
>> 404.  So if anyone wants it, I've got it.
>>
>> Rocky
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software" <bchacc at san.rr.com>
>> To: <AccessD at databaseadvisors.com>
>> Sent: Thursday, June 16, 2005 2:18 PM
>> Subject: [AccessD] Print To Picture
>>
>>
>> Dear List:
>>
>> I have a great utility on my old machine called print to picture.
>> Installs
>> like a printer and will print to a file which you can then copy into a
>> word
>> doc.  I need it on my new machine but can't find it anymore.  Anyone
>> know
>> where it is?
>>
>> TIA,
>>
>> Rocky Smolin
>> Beach Access Software
>> http://www.e-z-mrp.com
>> 858-259-4334
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From artful at rogers.com  Thu Jun 16 21:31:06 2005
From: artful at rogers.com (Arthur Fuller)
Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2005 22:31:06 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Question about Animated Graphics
In-Reply-To: <0e3801c572d7$2fffb730$6801a8c0@HAL9004>
Message-ID: <200506170231.j5H2V2R21831@databaseadvisors.com>

I found some cool graphics appropriate to an app I'm building now, but so
far I can't make them work correctly. For a peek at the graphics, see
http://www.animation-central.com/gears.htm. The graphics there move. When I
download one graphic and drop it on an Access form, it's static not
animated. I want the animation! How do I achieve this?

TIA,
Arthur



From Bruce.Bruen at railcorp.nsw.gov.au  Thu Jun 16 21:38:19 2005
From: Bruce.Bruen at railcorp.nsw.gov.au (Bruen, Bruce)
Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2005 12:38:19 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] Question about Animated Graphics
Message-ID: <F2BE8EAB3EA585418337B71BCE6F3BF304EBC0@msmet100.rail.nsw.gov.au>

Arthur,

AFAIK you can't.  I tried this about two years ago.  It seems that the
screen representation of the object you embed is NOT the same as the
screen representation provided by the explorer base window.  i.e. Access
does not use the windows natives to render the things.

Someone else may have other opinions though.

bruce

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[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Arthur Fuller
Sent: Friday, 17 June 2005 12:31 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] Question about Animated Graphics

I found some cool graphics appropriate to an app I'm building now, but
so far I can't make them work correctly. For a peek at the graphics, see
http://www.animation-central.com/gears.htm. The graphics there move.
When I download one graphic and drop it on an Access form, it's static
not animated. I want the animation! How do I achieve this?

TIA,
Arthur

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From dejpolsys at hotmail.com  Thu Jun 16 21:51:44 2005
From: dejpolsys at hotmail.com (William Hindman)
Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2005 22:51:44 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Question about Animated Graphics
References: <200506170231.j5H2V2R21831@databaseadvisors.com>
Message-ID: <BAY103-DAV17F65C4D9BA3B4E1C120E8AEF40@phx.gbl>

http://www.lebans.com/animatedgifplayer.htm
..hth :)

William
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Sent: Thursday, June 16, 2005 10:31 PM
Subject: [AccessD] Question about Animated Graphics


>I found some cool graphics appropriate to an app I'm building now, but so
> far I can't make them work correctly. For a peek at the graphics, see
> http://www.animation-central.com/gears.htm. The graphics there move. When 
> I
> download one graphic and drop it on an Access form, it's static not
> animated. I want the animation! How do I achieve this?
>
> TIA,
> Arthur
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From martyconnelly at shaw.ca  Fri Jun 17 00:22:46 2005
From: martyconnelly at shaw.ca (MartyConnelly)
Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2005 22:22:46 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Print To Picture
References: <KDEHKEMIOHGKCDHLPPLKOEFKFFAA.dmcafee@pacbell.net>
	<0e3801c572d7$2fffb730$6801a8c0@HAL9004>
Message-ID: <42B25E26.905@shaw.ca>

 You could use some rough code like this to snapshot either screen or 
form to the clipboard
and then dump clipboard  into word, I think it is all there.

Option Compare Database
Option Explicit

'_______________________________________________________
' Snap a picture of the screen and send error messages,
'  screen picture and tasklist to a word document
'________________________________________________________

Private Const VK_LWIN = &H5B 'Left window button
Private Const VK_RETURN = &HD  'ENTER key
Private Const VK_SHIFT = &H10 'SHIFT key
Private Const VK_CONTROL = &H11 'CTRL key
Private Const VK_MENU = &H12 'ALT key
Private Const VK_PAUSE = &H13 'PAUSE key
Private Const VK_CAPITAL = &H14 'CAPS LOCK key
Private Const VK_SNAPSHOT = &H2C  'Print Screen
Private Const VK_APPS = &H5D
         'Applications key on a Microsoft Natural Keyboard
'from http://support.microsoft.com/view/dev.asp?kb=242971

Const GW_HWNDFIRST = 0
Const GW_HWNDNEXT = 2
Private Const KEYEVENTF_KEYUP = &H2

Private Declare Sub keybd_event Lib "user32" (ByVal bVk As Byte, _
    ByVal bScan As Byte, ByVal dwflags As Long, ByVal dwExtraInfo As Long)
Private Declare Function GetWindow Lib "user32" _
   (ByVal hWnd As Long, ByVal wCmd As Long) As Long
Private Declare Function GetParent Lib "user32" _
   (ByVal hWnd As Long) As Long
Private Declare Function GetWindowTextLength Lib _
   "user32" Alias "GetWindowTextLengthA" (ByVal hWnd As Long) As Long
Private Declare Function GetWindowText Lib "user32" _
   Alias "GetWindowTextA" (ByVal hWnd As Long, ByVal _
   lpString As String, ByVal cch As Long) As Long
Private Declare Function FindWindow Lib "user32" Alias "FindWindowA" _
   (ByVal lpClassName As String, ByVal lpWindowName As String) As Long
Private Declare Function SetFocusAPI Lib "user32" Alias "SetFocus" _
   (ByVal hWnd As Long) As Long

Sub ErrorScreenReport()
'turn on reference to Microsoft Word Object Library
  SnapPrintScreen
  'SnapPrintForm
  ErrorReportToWord
End Sub

 Sub ErrorReportToWord()
 Dim ObjWord As Word.Application
    Dim temp As String
    Dim strFileName As String
    Dim strErrDesc As String
    Dim strLoadTaskList As String
    Dim appPathAccess As String
    '  grab the Task List
    strLoadTaskList = LoadTaskList()
   ' On Error Resume Next

   Set ObjWord = New Word.Application
'   Disable command button to prevent object being recreated
'   If you have an error in here, it will litter memory with copies of word
'   so put in error handling

     ObjWord.Documents.Add
     ObjWord.Selection.Paste 'copy clipboard

strErrDesc = "Error No: " & Err.Number & "; Description: " & Err.Description
    'no range selected so text placed at end of document
      ObjWord.Application.Selection.Font.Size = 14
      ObjWord.Application.Selection.Font.Bold = True
      strErrDesc = strErrDesc & " Module name = ..." & vbCrLf & vbCrLf
       ObjWord.Application.Selection.Font.Size = 10
      ObjWord.Application.Selection.Font.Bold = True
      strErrDesc = strErrDesc & strLoadTaskList
    ObjWord.ActiveDocument.Content.InsertAfter Text:=strErrDesc

'   Saves report with a new filename
'   Name of report file, change path to whatever is applicable
      appPathAccess = CurrentDBDir
      strFileName = appPathAccess & "ErrorReport"
      strFileName = strFileName & Format(Now, "yyyymmddhhmmss") & ".doc"

    ObjWord.ActiveDocument.SaveAs (strFileName)
'   Quit Word
    ObjWord.Documents.Close
    ObjWord.Quit
'   Inform user that report is created
    MsgBox "Error Report Created in File" & vbCrLf & strFileName
'   Clear our pointer to word
    Set ObjWord = Nothing
End Sub


'Determining Which Tasks Are Running

'With the Microsoft Windows operating system,
'you can run any number of applications simultaneously.
'Occasionally, you may need to determine which tasks are currently being
'run.
'This can be accomplished by using several Windows application programming
'interface
'(API) functions.
'To find the names of all currently executing tasks,
'you must first determine the handle of the window that is currently
'at the top of the z-order. This, of course, would be the window of your
'own Microsoft Visual Basic application.
'You can use the Windows API GetWindow function to retrieve the handle
'of your application's window with the statement:

'    CurrWnd = GetWindow(Form1.hwnd, GW_HWNDFIRST)
' To use in Access replace with the following
'     parent_hwnd = FindWindow(vbNullString, "Microsoft Access")
'The first argument of the GetWindow function is the handle of the window
'that is at the top of the z-order. In this case, this is the handle of
'Form1.

'The second argument of the GetWindow function specifies the window
'you want to retrieve the handle for.
'This argument can have one of the following values:

'  GW_CHILD Retrieve the handle for the child window.
'  GW_HWNDFIRST Retrieve the handle for the window at the top of the z-
'order.
'  GW_HWNDLAST Retrieve the handle for the window at the bottom of the z-
'order.
'  GW_HWNDNEXT Retrieve the handle of the window below the specified window
'in the z-order.
'  GW_HWNDPREV Retrieve the handle of the window above the specified window
'in the z-order.
'  GW_OWNER Retrieve the handle of the window that owns the specified
'window, if any.

'After you have retrieved the application's window handle,
'you can use the Windows API GetParent function to retrieve this window's
'child window handle. Next, you call the Windows API GetWindowText and
'GetWindowTextLength functions to retrieve the text in the window's title
'bar
'and the length of this text, respectively. You can then use the text string
'in your own application. For example, you can save the title bar text
'to a List Box control.

'All of the above steps are repeated until you have processed all running
'tasks.
'You know that you have gone through each task when the current window is
'that'of your own application.


Function LoadTaskList() As String
Dim CurrWnd As Long
Dim Length As Long
Dim TaskName As String
Dim Parent As Long
Dim parent_hwnd As Long
Dim strMyTaskList As String
  strMyTaskList = " Task List " & vbCrLf

' This line below works from VB form
'CurrWnd = GetWindow(Form1.hwnd, GW_HWNDFIRST)
' get Parent Window Handle
     parent_hwnd = FindWindow(vbNullString, "Microsoft Access")
    If parent_hwnd = 0 Then
     MsgBox "Access Not Found"
      Exit Function
     End If
      'SetFocusAPI parent_hwnd
       CurrWnd = parent_hwnd
While CurrWnd <> 0
  Parent = GetParent(CurrWnd)
  Length = GetWindowTextLength(CurrWnd)
  TaskName = Space$(Length + 1)
  Length = GetWindowText(CurrWnd, TaskName, Length + 1)
  TaskName = Left$(TaskName, Len(TaskName) - 1)

  If Length > 0 Then
  'If TaskName <> Me.Caption Then
  'If TaskName <> "Microsoft Access" Then
     'List1.AddItem TaskName
     strMyTaskList = strMyTaskList & TaskName & vbCrLf
     Debug.Print TaskName
   'End If
  End If
  CurrWnd = GetWindow(CurrWnd, GW_HWNDNEXT)

    DoEvents
Wend
LoadTaskList = strMyTaskList
End Function
'
Function CurrentDBDir() As String
' get Current Database Path string
Dim strDBPath As String
Dim strDBFile As String
    strDBPath = CurrentDb.Name
    strDBFile = Dir(strDBPath)
    CurrentDBDir = Left(strDBPath, Len(strDBPath) - Len(strDBFile))
End Function
Option Compare Database
Option Explicit

'_______________________________________________________
' Snap a picture of the screen and send error messages,
'  screen picture and tasklist to a word document
'________________________________________________________

Private Const VK_LWIN = &H5B 'Left window button
Private Const VK_RETURN = &HD  'ENTER key
Private Const VK_SHIFT = &H10 'SHIFT key
Private Const VK_CONTROL = &H11 'CTRL key
Private Const VK_MENU = &H12 'ALT key
Private Const VK_PAUSE = &H13 'PAUSE key
Private Const VK_CAPITAL = &H14 'CAPS LOCK key
Private Const VK_SNAPSHOT = &H2C  'Print Screen
Private Const VK_APPS = &H5D
         'Applications key on a Microsoft Natural Keyboard
'from http://support.microsoft.com/view/dev.asp?kb=242971

Const GW_HWNDFIRST = 0
Const GW_HWNDNEXT = 2
Private Const KEYEVENTF_KEYUP = &H2

Private Declare Sub keybd_event Lib "user32" (ByVal bVk As Byte, _
    ByVal bScan As Byte, ByVal dwflags As Long, ByVal dwExtraInfo As Long)
Private Declare Function GetWindow Lib "user32" _
   (ByVal hWnd As Long, ByVal wCmd As Long) As Long
Private Declare Function GetParent Lib "user32" _
   (ByVal hWnd As Long) As Long
Private Declare Function GetWindowTextLength Lib _
   "user32" Alias "GetWindowTextLengthA" (ByVal hWnd As Long) As Long
Private Declare Function GetWindowText Lib "user32" _
   Alias "GetWindowTextA" (ByVal hWnd As Long, ByVal _
   lpString As String, ByVal cch As Long) As Long
Private Declare Function FindWindow Lib "user32" Alias "FindWindowA" _
   (ByVal lpClassName As String, ByVal lpWindowName As String) As Long
Private Declare Function SetFocusAPI Lib "user32" Alias "SetFocus" _
   (ByVal hWnd As Long) As Long

Sub OpenWindowsHelp()
' Open the Windows Help
'
' You can use the same technique to programmatically "press" any other
' key, including Shift, Ctrl, Alt and keys combinations that can't be
' simulated through SendKeys
    ' programmatically press the Windows key
    keybd_event VK_LWIN, 0, 0, 0
    ' then press and then release the F1 key
    keybd_event vbKeyF1, 0, 0, 0
    keybd_event vbKeyF1, 0, KEYEVENTF_KEYUP, 0
    ' and finally release the Windows Key
    keybd_event VK_LWIN, 0, KEYEVENTF_KEYUP, 0
End Sub
Sub CloseAllWindows()
' Minimize all open windows
'Const acaltMask
    ' programmatically press the Windows key
    keybd_event VK_LWIN, 0, 0, 0
    ' then press and then release the M key
    keybd_event vbKeyM, 0, 0, 0
    keybd_event vbKeyM, 0, KEYEVENTF_KEYUP, 0
    ' and finally release the Windows Key
    keybd_event VK_LWIN, 0, KEYEVENTF_KEYUP, 0
End Sub
Sub SnapPrintForm()
'use the following code inside form or focused window
'to simulate the Alt / PrintScreen = key combination:
'If form popup in Access will capture form
' programmatically press the ALT key
  '  keybd_event VK_MENU, 0, 0, 0
     ' then press and then release the PrtScreen key
  keybd_event VK_SNAPSHOT, 1, 0, 0
  DoEvents
 '  keybd_event VK_SNAPSHOT, 0, KEYEVENTF_KEYUP, 0
  ' and finally release the ALT Key
  '  keybd_event VK_MENU, 0, KEYEVENTF_KEYUP, 0

End Sub
Sub SnapPrintScreen()
'To print the entire screen (rather than the current focused window
 'programmatically press the ALT key
    'keybd_event VK_MENU, 0, 0, 0
     ' then press and then release the PrtScreen key
    keybd_event VK_SNAPSHOT, 0, 0, 0
    DoEvents
    'keybd_event VK_SNAPSHOT, 0, KEYEVENTF_KEYUP, 0
  ' and finally release the ALT Key
    'keybd_event VK_MENU, 0, KEYEVENTF_KEYUP, 0
' The second argument for the keybd_event call is the hardware scan code,
' and, in this case, you could use the value 1. This may have to change
' with Win 2000
' However, applications should not use this scan code according to Microsoft
' The screen is now captured in the clipboard as a bmp
End Sub





Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software wrote:

> I found that a screen print image was limited to the resolution of the 
> screen.  Copying a full page of a report from the screen just didn't 
> provide the detail needed. Alt+Print Screen and Ctrl+V works good for 
> dropping forms shots into a word doc.
>
> Rocky
>
> ----- Original Message ----- From: <dmcafee at pacbell.net>
> To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving" 
> <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
> Sent: Thursday, June 16, 2005 3:53 PM
> Subject: RE: [AccessD] Print To Picture
>
>
>> So it's easier to use than Alt+Print Screen and Ctrl+V?
>>
>> I guess no editing.
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Rocky Smolin -
>> Beach Access Software
>> Sent: Thursday, June 16, 2005 3:17 PM
>> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
>> Subject: Re: [AccessD] Print To Picture
>>
>>
>> 404 means a broken link.  I'll send it to you off line, however.  
>> It's from
>> a Russian guy who apparently has taken his site down.  It installs 
>> like a
>> printer and when you print to it it produces either a .PCX or .BMP 
>> format
>> which you can insert into a word doc.  I used it to put sample 
>> reports into
>> a manual.
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Rocky Smolin
>> Beach Access Software
>> http://www.e-z-mrp.com
>> 858-259-4334
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Jim Hewson" <JHewson at karta.com>
>> To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving"
>> <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
>> Sent: Thursday, June 16, 2005 2:50 PM
>> Subject: RE: [AccessD] Print To Picture
>>
>>
>>> Sounds like a useful tool.
>>> I've never heard of 404.  I'd like to be able to get it.
>>> Thanks,
>>> Jim
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>>> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Rocky Smolin
>>> - Beach Access Software
>>> Sent: Thursday, June 16, 2005 4:44 PM
>>> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
>>> Subject: Re: [AccessD] Print To Picture
>>>
>>> Never mind.  Found the .exe on my old machine.  But the original 
>>> link is
>>> 404.  So if anyone wants it, I've got it.
>>>
>>> Rocky
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software" <bchacc at san.rr.com>
>>> To: <AccessD at databaseadvisors.com>
>>> Sent: Thursday, June 16, 2005 2:18 PM
>>> Subject: [AccessD] Print To Picture
>>>
>>>
>>> Dear List:
>>>
>>> I have a great utility on my old machine called print to picture.
>>> Installs
>>> like a printer and will print to a file which you can then copy into a
>>> word
>>> doc.  I need it on my new machine but can't find it anymore.  Anyone
>>> know
>>> where it is?
>>>
>>> TIA,
>>>
>>> Rocky Smolin
>>> Beach Access Software
>>> http://www.e-z-mrp.com
>>> 858-259-4334
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From Erwin.Craps at ithelps.be  Fri Jun 17 01:50:16 2005
From: Erwin.Craps at ithelps.be (Erwin Craps - IT Helps)
Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2005 08:50:16 +0200
Subject: [AccessD] Urgent help needed
	withIISserver.CreateObject("ADODB.Connection")
Message-ID: <46B976F2B698FF46A4FE7636509B22DF1B5C8F@stekelbes.ithelps.local>

Noop, Doesnt solve the problem.
Already added those.

Problem is persistent..
  

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Verzonden: donderdag 16 juni 2005 17:07
Aan: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Onderwerp: RE: [AccessD] Urgent help needed
withIISserver.CreateObject("ADODB.Connection")

Hi Erwin:

Have you seen this article from MS?
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/198432/EN-US/

<Microsoft>
Solution:
You need to give the IUSR_<machine_name> account permissions to launch
and access your OOP COM object using dcomcnfg by doing the following: 
1. Launch DCOMCNFG by clicking the Start button, selecting Run, and
typing "Dcomcnfg" in the Run dialog box.  
2. In the Default Security tab, click the "Edit Default" in the "Default
Access Permissions" frame. The Registry Value Permissions dialog box
appears.  
3. Add the IUSR_<machine_name>account and the INTERACTIVE account to the
Registry Value Permissions dialog box, and click OK. 
4. In the Default Security tab, click the Edit Default in the Default
Launch Permissions frame. The Registry Value Permissions dialog box
appears.  
5. Add the IUSR_<machine_name> account to the Registry Value Permissions
dialog box0, and click OK.  
</Microsoft>

HTH
Jim

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Subject: [AccessD] Urgent help needed with
IISserver.CreateObject("ADODB.Connection")
Importance: High

 
I'm getting desperate over here.
 
Yesterday I installed this mont security fixes on my W2K server.
I also took the opportunity to install SQL SP4.
 
>From that reboot on, non of my database driven website no longer
functions.
 
For both "JET 4 MDB" and "SQL server" access I get an error on this
command where it always used to work before the updates. 
failing command server.CreateObject("ADODB.Connection")
Retunred error
Server object error 'ASP 0178 : 80070005' 
Server.CreateObject Access Error
The call to Server.CreateObject failed while checking permissions.
Access is denied to this object. 
 

 

I checked al my NTFS permissons according to the MSKB, but I believe
everything is ok.

Anyway, it worked for years before this update.

 

Is this a bug in the windows fiexes????

 

 

 

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From paul.hartland at fsmail.net  Fri Jun 17 06:42:50 2005
From: paul.hartland at fsmail.net (paul.hartland at fsmail.net)
Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2005 13:42:50 +0200 (CEST)
Subject: [AccessD] OT - Visual Basic 6.0 - Is Form Open
Message-ID: <10661170.1119008570079.JavaMail.www@wwinf3001>

To all,

Does anyone know how to find out if a form is open in a Visual Basic 6.0 application ?

Thanks in advance for any help on this.

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From accessd666 at yahoo.com  Fri Jun 17 07:00:33 2005
From: accessd666 at yahoo.com (Sad Der)
Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2005 05:00:33 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [AccessD] Query: Filter date column on year
Message-ID: <20050617120033.81643.qmail@web31609.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Hi group,

I've got a query with a date field in it. Values are
formatted like:
mm-dd-yyyy

I want to retrieve all values equal to a certain year.
With what statement can I do this?

TIA

SD


		
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From JHewson at karta.com  Fri Jun 17 07:13:58 2005
From: JHewson at karta.com (Jim Hewson)
Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2005 07:13:58 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Print To Picture
Message-ID: <9C382E065F54AE48BC3AA7925DCBB01C036295AC@karta-exc-int.Karta.com>


I've heard of THAT 404.  I wasn't thinking of a broken link....
Geez, I thought of a website like www.404.com .... Which is actually a
valid website.
Never mind.
Jim

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Sent: Thursday, June 16, 2005 5:02 PM
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Subject: Re: [AccessD] Print To Picture

..never heard of 404? ...lucky man! :)

William
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Sent: Thursday, June 16, 2005 5:50 PM
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Print To Picture


> Sounds like a useful tool.
> I've never heard of 404.  I'd like to be able to get it.
> Thanks,
> Jim
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Rocky
Smolin
> - Beach Access Software
> Sent: Thursday, June 16, 2005 4:44 PM
> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] Print To Picture
>
> Never mind.  Found the .exe on my old machine.  But the original link
is
> 404.  So if anyone wants it, I've got it.
>
> Rocky
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software" <bchacc at san.rr.com>
> To: <AccessD at databaseadvisors.com>
> Sent: Thursday, June 16, 2005 2:18 PM
> Subject: [AccessD] Print To Picture
>
>
> Dear List:
>
> I have a great utility on my old machine called print to picture.
> Installs
> like a printer and will print to a file which you can then copy into a
> word
> doc.  I need it on my new machine but can't find it anymore.  Anyone
> know
> where it is?
>
> TIA,
>
> Rocky Smolin
> Beach Access Software
> http://www.e-z-mrp.com
> 858-259-4334
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From DElam at jenkens.com  Fri Jun 17 07:24:19 2005
From: DElam at jenkens.com (Elam, Debbie)
Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2005 07:24:19 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Query: Filter date column on year
Message-ID: <7B1961ED924D1A459E378C9B1BB22B4C0492C9C4@natexch.jenkens.com>

Where DatePart('yyyy',[DateField]) = 2005

Debbie

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Sent: Friday, June 17, 2005 7:01 AM
To: Acces User Group
Subject: [AccessD] Query: Filter date column on year


Hi group,

I've got a query with a date field in it. Values are
formatted like:
mm-dd-yyyy

I want to retrieve all values equal to a certain year.
With what statement can I do this?

TIA

SD


		
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From bheid at appdevgrp.com  Fri Jun 17 07:47:49 2005
From: bheid at appdevgrp.com (Bobby Heid)
Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2005 08:47:49 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Question about Animated Graphics
In-Reply-To: <916187228923D311A6FE00A0CC3FAA30BECDBC@ADGSERVER>
Message-ID: <916187228923D311A6FE00A0CC3FAA30ABEC3F@ADGSERVER>

Those are animated Gif files which are not supported in Access (well at
least version 2000 and less).  I think that there are some 3rd-party
controls that will let you host an animated Gif.

Bobby

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Sent: Thursday, June 16, 2005 10:31 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] Question about Animated Graphics


I found some cool graphics appropriate to an app I'm building now, but so
far I can't make them work correctly. For a peek at the graphics, see
http://www.animation-central.com/gears.htm. The graphics there move. When I
download one graphic and drop it on an Access form, it's static not
animated. I want the animation! How do I achieve this?

TIA,
Arthur



From R.Griffiths at bury.gov.uk  Fri Jun 17 07:56:19 2005
From: R.Griffiths at bury.gov.uk (Griffiths, Richard)
Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2005 13:56:19 +0100
Subject: [AccessD] OT - Visual Basic 6.0 - Is Form Open
Message-ID: <200506171247.j5HClmA19797@smarthost.yourcomms.net>

Maybe this


Private Sub Form_Load()

If IsLoaded("Form1") = True Then
MsgBox "Yep, loaded"
End If

End Sub

Private Function IsLoaded(ByVal FormName As String) As Boolean

Dim f As Form

'check all open forms
For Each f In Forms

If f.Name = FormName Then

'yep, form is loaded
IsLoaded = True

'no need to loop again...
Exit For

End If

Next ' f

End Function

Richard

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Sent: 17 June 2005 12:43
To: accessd
Subject: [AccessD] OT - Visual Basic 6.0 - Is Form Open


To all,

Does anyone know how to find out if a form is open in a Visual Basic 6.0
application ?

Thanks in advance for any help on this.

Paul Hartland
Database Developer

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From paul.hartland at isharp.co.uk  Fri Jun 17 08:09:07 2005
From: paul.hartland at isharp.co.uk (Paul Hartland (ISHARP))
Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2005 14:09:07 +0100
Subject: [AccessD] OT - Visual Basic 6.0 - Is Form Open
In-Reply-To: <200506171247.j5HClmA19797@smarthost.yourcomms.net>
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Thanks, works a treat.....

Hope I can help out sometime

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Richard
Sent: 17 June 2005 13:56
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] OT - Visual Basic 6.0 - Is Form Open

Maybe this


Private Sub Form_Load()

If IsLoaded("Form1") = True Then
MsgBox "Yep, loaded"
End If

End Sub

Private Function IsLoaded(ByVal FormName As String) As Boolean

Dim f As Form

'check all open forms
For Each f In Forms

If f.Name = FormName Then

'yep, form is loaded
IsLoaded = True

'no need to loop again...
Exit For

End If

Next ' f

End Function

Richard

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Subject: [AccessD] OT - Visual Basic 6.0 - Is Form Open


To all,

Does anyone know how to find out if a form is open in a Visual Basic 6.0
application ?

Thanks in advance for any help on this.

Paul Hartland
Database Developer

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From accessd666 at yahoo.com  Fri Jun 17 08:21:54 2005
From: accessd666 at yahoo.com (Sad Der)
Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2005 06:21:54 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [AccessD] Query: Filter date column on year SOLVED!
In-Reply-To: <7B1961ED924D1A459E378C9B1BB22B4C0492C9C4@natexch.jenkens.com>
Message-ID: <20050617132154.92793.qmail@web31611.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Thnx debbie!
Works like a charm.

Regards,

SD

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> Where DatePart('yyyy',[DateField]) = 2005
> 
> Debbie
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Sad Der [mailto:accessd666 at yahoo.com] 
> Sent: Friday, June 17, 2005 7:01 AM
> To: Acces User Group
> Subject: [AccessD] Query: Filter date column on year
> 
> 
> Hi group,
> 
> I've got a query with a date field in it. Values are
> formatted like:
> mm-dd-yyyy
> 
> I want to retrieve all values equal to a certain
> year.
> With what statement can I do this?
> 
> TIA
> 
> SD
> 
> 
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From paul.hartland at fsmail.net  Fri Jun 17 08:54:15 2005
From: paul.hartland at fsmail.net (paul.hartland at fsmail.net)
Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2005 15:54:15 +0200 (CEST)
Subject: [AccessD] Executing Internet Links From Within Access
Message-ID: <30349590.1119016455234.JavaMail.www@wwinf3001>

To all,

A friend of mine has a website which he has to go to everyday to exceute several other pages, would it be possible to insert these into an Access table and run some code which would trigger them ?

Thanks in advance for any help/sample code on this issue

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From martyconnelly at shaw.ca  Fri Jun 17 10:08:26 2005
From: martyconnelly at shaw.ca (MartyConnelly)
Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2005 08:08:26 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Executing Internet Links From Within Access
References: <30349590.1119016455234.JavaMail.www@wwinf3001>
Message-ID: <42B2E76A.5040205@shaw.ca>

Code below is easiest way otherwise you have to enter address in a 
hyperlink field of table
which requires a specific format  URL Name#URL address#subaddress
"My MS site"#"http://www.microsoft.com"#
Then you can assign this field to a clickable Label or TextBox

The following function prompts a user for a hyperlink address and then 
follows the hyperlink:
You could assign this function to a command button

Function GetUserAddress() As Boolean
    Dim strInput As String

    On Error GoTo Error_GetUserAddress
    strInput = InputBox("Enter a valid address")
    Application.FollowHyperlink strInput, , True
    GetUserAddress = True

Exit_GetUserAddress:
    Exit Function

Error_GetUserAddress:
    MsgBox Err & ": " & Err.Description
    GetUserAddress = False
    Resume Exit_GetUserAddress
End Function

paul.hartland at fsmail.net wrote:

>To all,
>
>A friend of mine has a website which he has to go to everyday to exceute several other pages, would it be possible to insert these into an Access table and run some code which would trigger them ?
>
>Thanks in advance for any help/sample code on this issue
>
>Paul Hartland
>
>  
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From paul.hartland at fsmail.net  Fri Jun 17 10:12:23 2005
From: paul.hartland at fsmail.net (paul.hartland at fsmail.net)
Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2005 17:12:23 +0200 (CEST)
Subject: [AccessD] Executing Internet Links From Within Access
Message-ID: <24451050.1119021143158.JavaMail.www@wwinf3102>


Thanks for that, will test it out after the weekend.




Message date : Jun 17 2005, 04:10 PM
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To : "Access Developers discussion and problem solving" 
Copy to : 
Subject : Re: [AccessD] Executing Internet Links From Within Access
Code below is easiest way otherwise you have to enter address in a 
hyperlink field of table
which requires a specific format URL Name#URL address#subaddress
"My MS site"#"http://www.microsoft.com"#
Then you can assign this field to a clickable Label or TextBox

The following function prompts a user for a hyperlink address and then 
follows the hyperlink:
You could assign this function to a command button

Function GetUserAddress() As Boolean
Dim strInput As String

On Error GoTo Error_GetUserAddress
strInput = InputBox("Enter a valid address")
Application.FollowHyperlink strInput, , True
GetUserAddress = True

Exit_GetUserAddress:
Exit Function

Error_GetUserAddress:
MsgBox Err & ": " & Err.Description
GetUserAddress = False
Resume Exit_GetUserAddress
End Function

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>To all,
>
>A friend of mine has a website which he has to go to everyday to exceute several other pages, would it be possible to insert these into an Access table and run some code which would trigger them ?
>
>Thanks in advance for any help/sample code on this issue
>
>Paul Hartland
>
> 
>

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From martyconnelly at shaw.ca  Fri Jun 17 10:26:18 2005
From: martyconnelly at shaw.ca (MartyConnelly)
Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2005 08:26:18 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Urgent help needed
	withIISserver.CreateObject("ADODB.Connection")
References: <46B976F2B698FF46A4FE7636509B22DF1B5C8F@stekelbes.ithelps.local>
Message-ID: <42B2EB9A.40209@shaw.ca>

Have you tried  filemon from sysinternals.com to trace the access 
permission error

Erwin Craps - IT Helps wrote:

>Noop, Doesnt solve the problem.
>Already added those.
>
>Problem is persistent..
>  
>
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>Verzonden: donderdag 16 juni 2005 17:07
>Aan: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
>Onderwerp: RE: [AccessD] Urgent help needed
>withIISserver.CreateObject("ADODB.Connection")
>
>Hi Erwin:
>
>Have you seen this article from MS?
>http://support.microsoft.com/kb/198432/EN-US/
>
><Microsoft>
>Solution:
>You need to give the IUSR_<machine_name> account permissions to launch
>and access your OOP COM object using dcomcnfg by doing the following: 
>1. Launch DCOMCNFG by clicking the Start button, selecting Run, and
>typing "Dcomcnfg" in the Run dialog box.  
>2. In the Default Security tab, click the "Edit Default" in the "Default
>Access Permissions" frame. The Registry Value Permissions dialog box
>appears.  
>3. Add the IUSR_<machine_name>account and the INTERACTIVE account to the
>Registry Value Permissions dialog box, and click OK. 
>4. In the Default Security tab, click the Edit Default in the Default
>Launch Permissions frame. The Registry Value Permissions dialog box
>appears.  
>5. Add the IUSR_<machine_name> account to the Registry Value Permissions
>dialog box0, and click OK.  
></Microsoft>
>
>HTH
>Jim
>
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>IISserver.CreateObject("ADODB.Connection")
>Importance: High
>
> 
>I'm getting desperate over here.
> 
>Yesterday I installed this mont security fixes on my W2K server.
>I also took the opportunity to install SQL SP4.
> 
>>From that reboot on, non of my database driven website no longer
>functions.
> 
>For both "JET 4 MDB" and "SQL server" access I get an error on this
>command where it always used to work before the updates. 
>failing command server.CreateObject("ADODB.Connection")
>Retunred error
>Server object error 'ASP 0178 : 80070005' 
>Server.CreateObject Access Error
>The call to Server.CreateObject failed while checking permissions.
>Access is denied to this object. 
> 
>
> 
>
>I checked al my NTFS permissons according to the MSKB, but I believe
>everything is ok.
>
>Anyway, it worked for years before this update.
>
> 
>
>Is this a bug in the windows fiexes????
>
> 
>
> 
>
> 
>
>Erwin Craps
>
>Zaakvoerder 
>
>www.ithelps.be/onsgezin
>
> 
>
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From Erwin.Craps at ithelps.be  Fri Jun 17 14:15:32 2005
From: Erwin.Craps at ithelps.be (Erwin Craps - IT Helps)
Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2005 21:15:32 +0200
Subject: [AccessD] Urgent help
	neededwithIISserver.CreateObject("ADODB.Connection")
Message-ID: <46B976F2B698FF46A4FE7636509B22DF1B5C90@stekelbes.ithelps.local>

Il give it a shot.
I noticed now that also FSO does not work anymore in ASP...

Must be clearly one of this months windows updates that has caused this.

Erwin

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of MartyConnelly
Sent: Friday, June 17, 2005 5:26 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Urgent help
neededwithIISserver.CreateObject("ADODB.Connection")

Have you tried  filemon from sysinternals.com to trace the access
permission error

Erwin Craps - IT Helps wrote:

>Noop, Doesnt solve the problem.
>Already added those.
>
>Problem is persistent..
>  
>
>-----Oorspronkelijk bericht-----
>Van: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] Namens Jim Lawrence
>Verzonden: donderdag 16 juni 2005 17:07
>Aan: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
>Onderwerp: RE: [AccessD] Urgent help needed
>withIISserver.CreateObject("ADODB.Connection")
>
>Hi Erwin:
>
>Have you seen this article from MS?
>http://support.microsoft.com/kb/198432/EN-US/
>
><Microsoft>
>Solution:
>You need to give the IUSR_<machine_name> account permissions to launch 
>and access your OOP COM object using dcomcnfg by doing the following:
>1. Launch DCOMCNFG by clicking the Start button, selecting Run, and 
>typing "Dcomcnfg" in the Run dialog box.
>2. In the Default Security tab, click the "Edit Default" in the 
>"Default Access Permissions" frame. The Registry Value Permissions 
>dialog box appears.
>3. Add the IUSR_<machine_name>account and the INTERACTIVE account to 
>the Registry Value Permissions dialog box, and click OK.
>4. In the Default Security tab, click the Edit Default in the Default 
>Launch Permissions frame. The Registry Value Permissions dialog box 
>appears.
>5. Add the IUSR_<machine_name> account to the Registry Value 
>Permissions dialog box0, and click OK.
></Microsoft>
>
>HTH
>Jim
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Erwin Craps 
>- IT Helps
>Sent: Thursday, June 16, 2005 4:43 AM
>To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
>Subject: [AccessD] Urgent help needed with
>IISserver.CreateObject("ADODB.Connection")
>Importance: High
>
> 
>I'm getting desperate over here.
> 
>Yesterday I installed this mont security fixes on my W2K server.
>I also took the opportunity to install SQL SP4.
> 
>>From that reboot on, non of my database driven website no longer
>functions.
> 
>For both "JET 4 MDB" and "SQL server" access I get an error on this 
>command where it always used to work before the updates.
>failing command server.CreateObject("ADODB.Connection")
>Retunred error
>Server object error 'ASP 0178 : 80070005' 
>Server.CreateObject Access Error
>The call to Server.CreateObject failed while checking permissions.
>Access is denied to this object. 
> 
>
> 
>
>I checked al my NTFS permissons according to the MSKB, but I believe 
>everything is ok.
>
>Anyway, it worked for years before this update.
>
> 
>
>Is this a bug in the windows fiexes????
>
> 
>
> 
>
> 
>
>Erwin Craps
>
>Zaakvoerder
>
>www.ithelps.be/onsgezin
>
> 
>
>This E-mail is confidential, may be legally privileged, and is for the 
>intended recipient only. Access, disclosure, copying, distribution, or 
>reliance on any of it by anyone else is prohibited and may be a 
>criminal offence. Please delete if obtained in error and E-mail 
>confirmation to the sender.
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From artful at rogers.com  Fri Jun 17 21:46:43 2005
From: artful at rogers.com (Arthur Fuller)
Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2005 22:46:43 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Question about Animated Graphics
In-Reply-To: <916187228923D311A6FE00A0CC3FAA30ABEC3F@ADGSERVER>
Message-ID: <200506180246.j5I2kcR21562@databaseadvisors.com>

Bummer.... O well.

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Bobby Heid
Sent: June 17, 2005 8:48 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Question about Animated Graphics

Those are animated Gif files which are not supported in Access (well at
least version 2000 and less).  I think that there are some 3rd-party
controls that will let you host an animated Gif.

Bobby

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Arthur Fuller
Sent: Thursday, June 16, 2005 10:31 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] Question about Animated Graphics


I found some cool graphics appropriate to an app I'm building now, but so
far I can't make them work correctly. For a peek at the graphics, see
http://www.animation-central.com/gears.htm. The graphics there move. When I
download one graphic and drop it on an Access form, it's static not
animated. I want the animation! How do I achieve this?

TIA,
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From Erwin.Craps at ithelps.be  Sat Jun 18 04:17:27 2005
From: Erwin.Craps at ithelps.be (Erwin Craps - IT Helps)
Date: Sat, 18 Jun 2005 11:17:27 +0200
Subject: [AccessD] Urgent helpneededwithIISserver SOLVED
Message-ID: <46B976F2B698FF46A4FE7636509B22DF1B5C91@stekelbes.ithelps.local>


I Was able to locate and solve the problem with aid of the MDAC
component checker.

I noticed that some ADO files where located at "Z:\program Files\Common
Files\system" instead of the normal C: drive.

The NTFS file security for this system folder where not correctly set as
specified in the MS articles.
I always checked the C drive folder!!!

That leaves me with the question why these MDAC are installed in the Z
drive.
My account data specifies drive Z: for the home directory, but again I
don't see the point why my common files are set to the Z drive. I
changed the registry entries from all Z: to C: and noticed the a
registry key commonfilesfolder (or something) was set to the z drive. I
changed that to to C:

To conclude this problem I blmieve what happened is this.
1) I analised my server with MSBA that resulted in a MDAC that needed
updating.
2) I updated the MDAC but also windows updates an SQL SP4 to save time.
3) For some resaon MDAC update installed onto the Z drive instead of the
C
4) The Z: drive is a user folder where only administrators (group) and
the user (in this case the administrator (user) has access to. Due to
NTFS security limitations on the Z drive the IIS could not load MDAC
components using thr IUSR failing all data access from my website.


Probably lost 12 working hours and 3 days of website problems.

Thank you whomever to thank (maybe myself with that home folder thing,
but this has worked for 2 years)

Erwin


 

-----Oorspronkelijk bericht-----
Van: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] Namens Erwin Craps - IT
Helps
Verzonden: vrijdag 17 juni 2005 21:16
Aan: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Onderwerp: RE: [AccessD] Urgent
helpneededwithIISserver.CreateObject("ADODB.Connection")

Il give it a shot.
I noticed now that also FSO does not work anymore in ASP...

Must be clearly one of this months windows updates that has caused this.

Erwin

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of MartyConnelly
Sent: Friday, June 17, 2005 5:26 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Urgent help
neededwithIISserver.CreateObject("ADODB.Connection")

Have you tried  filemon from sysinternals.com to trace the access
permission error

Erwin Craps - IT Helps wrote:

>Noop, Doesnt solve the problem.
>Already added those.
>
>Problem is persistent..
>  
>
>-----Oorspronkelijk bericht-----
>Van: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] Namens Jim Lawrence
>Verzonden: donderdag 16 juni 2005 17:07
>Aan: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
>Onderwerp: RE: [AccessD] Urgent help needed
>withIISserver.CreateObject("ADODB.Connection")
>
>Hi Erwin:
>
>Have you seen this article from MS?
>http://support.microsoft.com/kb/198432/EN-US/
>
><Microsoft>
>Solution:
>You need to give the IUSR_<machine_name> account permissions to launch 
>and access your OOP COM object using dcomcnfg by doing the following:
>1. Launch DCOMCNFG by clicking the Start button, selecting Run, and 
>typing "Dcomcnfg" in the Run dialog box.
>2. In the Default Security tab, click the "Edit Default" in the 
>"Default Access Permissions" frame. The Registry Value Permissions 
>dialog box appears.
>3. Add the IUSR_<machine_name>account and the INTERACTIVE account to 
>the Registry Value Permissions dialog box, and click OK.
>4. In the Default Security tab, click the Edit Default in the Default 
>Launch Permissions frame. The Registry Value Permissions dialog box 
>appears.
>5. Add the IUSR_<machine_name> account to the Registry Value 
>Permissions dialog box0, and click OK.
></Microsoft>
>
>HTH
>Jim
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Erwin Craps
>- IT Helps
>Sent: Thursday, June 16, 2005 4:43 AM
>To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
>Subject: [AccessD] Urgent help needed with
>IISserver.CreateObject("ADODB.Connection")
>Importance: High
>
> 
>I'm getting desperate over here.
> 
>Yesterday I installed this mont security fixes on my W2K server.
>I also took the opportunity to install SQL SP4.
> 
>>From that reboot on, non of my database driven website no longer
>functions.
> 
>For both "JET 4 MDB" and "SQL server" access I get an error on this 
>command where it always used to work before the updates.
>failing command server.CreateObject("ADODB.Connection")
>Retunred error
>Server object error 'ASP 0178 : 80070005' 
>Server.CreateObject Access Error
>The call to Server.CreateObject failed while checking permissions.
>Access is denied to this object. 
> 
>
> 
>
>I checked al my NTFS permissons according to the MSKB, but I believe 
>everything is ok.
>
>Anyway, it worked for years before this update.
>
> 
>
>Is this a bug in the windows fiexes????
>
> 
>
> 
>
> 
>
>Erwin Craps
>
>Zaakvoerder
>
>www.ithelps.be/onsgezin
>
> 
>
>This E-mail is confidential, may be legally privileged, and is for the 
>intended recipient only. Access, disclosure, copying, distribution, or 
>reliance on any of it by anyone else is prohibited and may be a 
>criminal offence. Please delete if obtained in error and E-mail 
>confirmation to the sender.
>
>IT Helps - I.T. Help Center  ***  Box Office Belgium & Luxembourg
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From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com  Sat Jun 18 07:40:22 2005
From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (John W. Colby)
Date: Sat, 18 Jun 2005 08:40:22 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] OT: Firefox password store
Message-ID: <000201c57402$e80893c0$6c7aa8c0@ColbyM6805>

I use FF to store my passwords for web pages.  What I haven't figured out is
why it sometimes does not offer to save the username / password?  Anyone
know?

John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com 

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From martyconnelly at shaw.ca  Sat Jun 18 10:58:25 2005
From: martyconnelly at shaw.ca (MartyConnelly)
Date: Sat, 18 Jun 2005 08:58:25 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Urgent helpneededwithIISserver SOLVED
References: <46B976F2B698FF46A4FE7636509B22DF1B5C91@stekelbes.ithelps.local>
Message-ID: <42B444A1.3090000@shaw.ca>

Well if it is any consolation, Microsoft is firing the MDAC installs.

MDAC Microsoft Data Access Components version 2.8 SP-1 is the last stand
alone redistributable of MDAC that Microsoft will ship.

The end of the MDAC Redistributable

http://blogs.msdn.com/dataaccess/archive/2005/05/23/421039.aspx

It might have been dependant on what user you were logged on as
when you started the installs. Some program installs ask do you want 
accessible to all users
or just logged on user, this maybe dependant on your groups policy.

Erwin Craps - IT Helps wrote:

>I Was able to locate and solve the problem with aid of the MDAC
>component checker.
>
>I noticed that some ADO files where located at "Z:\program Files\Common
>Files\system" instead of the normal C: drive.
>
>The NTFS file security for this system folder where not correctly set as
>specified in the MS articles.
>I always checked the C drive folder!!!
>
>That leaves me with the question why these MDAC are installed in the Z
>drive.
>My account data specifies drive Z: for the home directory, but again I
>don't see the point why my common files are set to the Z drive. I
>changed the registry entries from all Z: to C: and noticed the a
>registry key commonfilesfolder (or something) was set to the z drive. I
>changed that to to C:
>
>To conclude this problem I blmieve what happened is this.
>1) I analised my server with MSBA that resulted in a MDAC that needed
>updating.
>2) I updated the MDAC but also windows updates an SQL SP4 to save time.
>3) For some resaon MDAC update installed onto the Z drive instead of the
>C
>4) The Z: drive is a user folder where only administrators (group) and
>the user (in this case the administrator (user) has access to. Due to
>NTFS security limitations on the Z drive the IIS could not load MDAC
>components using thr IUSR failing all data access from my website.
>
>
>Probably lost 12 working hours and 3 days of website problems.
>
>Thank you whomever to thank (maybe myself with that home folder thing,
>but this has worked for 2 years)
>
>Erwin
>
>
> 
>
>-----Oorspronkelijk bericht-----
>Van: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] Namens Erwin Craps - IT
>Helps
>Verzonden: vrijdag 17 juni 2005 21:16
>Aan: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
>Onderwerp: RE: [AccessD] Urgent
>helpneededwithIISserver.CreateObject("ADODB.Connection")
>
>Il give it a shot.
>I noticed now that also FSO does not work anymore in ASP...
>
>Must be clearly one of this months windows updates that has caused this.
>
>Erwin
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of MartyConnelly
>Sent: Friday, June 17, 2005 5:26 PM
>To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
>Subject: Re: [AccessD] Urgent help
>neededwithIISserver.CreateObject("ADODB.Connection")
>
>Have you tried  filemon from sysinternals.com to trace the access
>permission error
>
>Erwin Craps - IT Helps wrote:
>
>  
>
>>Noop, Doesnt solve the problem.
>>Already added those.
>>
>>Problem is persistent..
>> 
>>
>>-----Oorspronkelijk bericht-----
>>Van: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>>[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] Namens Jim Lawrence
>>Verzonden: donderdag 16 juni 2005 17:07
>>Aan: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
>>Onderwerp: RE: [AccessD] Urgent help needed
>>withIISserver.CreateObject("ADODB.Connection")
>>
>>Hi Erwin:
>>
>>Have you seen this article from MS?
>>http://support.microsoft.com/kb/198432/EN-US/
>>
>><Microsoft>
>>Solution:
>>You need to give the IUSR_<machine_name> account permissions to launch 
>>and access your OOP COM object using dcomcnfg by doing the following:
>>1. Launch DCOMCNFG by clicking the Start button, selecting Run, and 
>>typing "Dcomcnfg" in the Run dialog box.
>>2. In the Default Security tab, click the "Edit Default" in the 
>>"Default Access Permissions" frame. The Registry Value Permissions 
>>dialog box appears.
>>3. Add the IUSR_<machine_name>account and the INTERACTIVE account to 
>>the Registry Value Permissions dialog box, and click OK.
>>4. In the Default Security tab, click the Edit Default in the Default 
>>Launch Permissions frame. The Registry Value Permissions dialog box 
>>appears.
>>5. Add the IUSR_<machine_name> account to the Registry Value 
>>Permissions dialog box0, and click OK.
>></Microsoft>
>>
>>HTH
>>Jim
>>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>>[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Erwin Craps
>>- IT Helps
>>Sent: Thursday, June 16, 2005 4:43 AM
>>To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
>>Subject: [AccessD] Urgent help needed with
>>IISserver.CreateObject("ADODB.Connection")
>>Importance: High
>>
>>
>>I'm getting desperate over here.
>>
>>Yesterday I installed this mont security fixes on my W2K server.
>>I also took the opportunity to install SQL SP4.
>>
>>>From that reboot on, non of my database driven website no longer
>>functions.
>>
>>For both "JET 4 MDB" and "SQL server" access I get an error on this 
>>command where it always used to work before the updates.
>>failing command server.CreateObject("ADODB.Connection")
>>Retunred error
>>Server object error 'ASP 0178 : 80070005' 
>>Server.CreateObject Access Error
>>The call to Server.CreateObject failed while checking permissions.
>>Access is denied to this object. 
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>I checked al my NTFS permissons according to the MSKB, but I believe 
>>everything is ok.
>>
>>Anyway, it worked for years before this update.
>>
>>
>>
>>Is this a bug in the windows fiexes????
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>Erwin Craps
>>
>>Zaakvoerder
>>
>>www.ithelps.be/onsgezin
>>
>>
>>
>>This E-mail is confidential, may be legally privileged, and is for the 
>>intended recipient only. Access, disclosure, copying, distribution, or 
>>reliance on any of it by anyone else is prohibited and may be a 
>>criminal offence. Please delete if obtained in error and E-mail 
>>confirmation to the sender.
>>
>>IT Helps - I.T. Help Center  ***  Box Office Belgium & Luxembourg
>>
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>><http://www.boxoffice.be/>   *  www.stadleuven.be
>><http://www.stadleuven.be/>
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>>
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>>
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>>
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From D.Dick at uws.edu.au  Sun Jun 19 19:00:30 2005
From: D.Dick at uws.edu.au (Darren Dick)
Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2005 10:00:30 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] Question about Animated Graphics
Message-ID: <2FDE83AF1A69C84796CBD13788DDA8834518F8@BONHAM.AD.UWS.EDU.AU>

Hi Arthur

Drew had some code (In Access 97 I think) in his minicalendar that
allowed
for animated graphics. Not sure if it was for an AVI or an animated GIF
If you have A97 download the minicalendar and have a look

But it can be also done with timers
I have also seen in some of Candace's demos the "Gears turning inside
the head" animation
It was a handful of stills made visible or not-visible using the timer.
Looked cool
But to get it to go fast caused screen flicker - and the screen flicker
varied from Not visible at all on some pewtas
To a real PITA in others

But as for inserting a native animated GIF and getting it to do what you
know an animated GIF can do
Is traditionally very tricky in Access and does require some sort of
smoke and mirrors

See ya

DD



-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Arthur Fuller
Sent: Saturday, June 18, 2005 12:47 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Question about Animated Graphics

Bummer.... O well.

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[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Bobby Heid
Sent: June 17, 2005 8:48 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Question about Animated Graphics

Those are animated Gif files which are not supported in Access (well at
least version 2000 and less).  I think that there are some 3rd-party
controls that will let you host an animated Gif.

Bobby

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Sent: Thursday, June 16, 2005 10:31 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] Question about Animated Graphics


I found some cool graphics appropriate to an app I'm building now, but
so far I can't make them work correctly. For a peek at the graphics, see
http://www.animation-central.com/gears.htm. The graphics there move.
When I download one graphic and drop it on an Access form, it's static
not animated. I want the animation! How do I achieve this?

TIA,
Arthur

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From Erwin.Craps at ithelps.be  Mon Jun 20 12:19:43 2005
From: Erwin.Craps at ithelps.be (Erwin Craps - IT Helps)
Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2005 19:19:43 +0200
Subject: [AccessD] OT - Visual Basic 6.0 - Is Form Open
Message-ID: <46B976F2B698FF46A4FE7636509B22DF1B5CA3@stekelbes.ithelps.local>

I recal it is much easier than in access.

If formname.load  = true then


Erwin

	


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Verzonden: vrijdag 17 juni 2005 15:09
Aan: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Onderwerp: RE: [AccessD] OT - Visual Basic 6.0 - Is Form Open

Thanks, works a treat.....

Hope I can help out sometime

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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
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Richard
Sent: 17 June 2005 13:56
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] OT - Visual Basic 6.0 - Is Form Open

Maybe this


Private Sub Form_Load()

If IsLoaded("Form1") = True Then
MsgBox "Yep, loaded"
End If

End Sub

Private Function IsLoaded(ByVal FormName As String) As Boolean

Dim f As Form

'check all open forms
For Each f In Forms

If f.Name = FormName Then

'yep, form is loaded
IsLoaded = True

'no need to loop again...
Exit For

End If

Next ' f

End Function

Richard

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Sent: 17 June 2005 12:43
To: accessd
Subject: [AccessD] OT - Visual Basic 6.0 - Is Form Open


To all,

Does anyone know how to find out if a form is open in a Visual Basic 6.0
application ?

Thanks in advance for any help on this.

Paul Hartland
Database Developer

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From carbonnb at gmail.com  Tue Jun 21 12:28:01 2005
From: carbonnb at gmail.com (Bryan Carbonnell)
Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2005 13:28:01 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Just Checking....
Message-ID: <e04a6c9205062110283583db8a@mail.gmail.com>

Just checking to see if there is anyone out there or is AccessD down?

It's just too quite.

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From RRANTHON at sentara.com  Tue Jun 21 12:33:21 2005
From: RRANTHON at sentara.com (Randall R Anthony)
Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2005 13:33:21 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Just Checking....
Message-ID: <200506211733.j5LHXZR26514@databaseadvisors.com>

I'm-a still a-lurking...

Randy Anthony, MCP
Software Engineer
Sentara Health Plan/IT
(757)687-6207

>>> carbonnb at gmail.com 6/21/2005 1:28:01 PM >>>
Just checking to see if there is anyone out there or is AccessD down?

It's just too quite.

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From dwaters at usinternet.com  Tue Jun 21 12:58:42 2005
From: dwaters at usinternet.com (Dan Waters)
Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2005 10:58:42 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Just Checking....
In-Reply-To: <2983521.1119375486655.JavaMail.root@sniper17>
Message-ID: <000001c5768a$dfe0c020$0518820a@danwaters>

Well - it was quiet until now.   :-)

Dan Waters


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Subject: [AccessD] Just Checking....

Just checking to see if there is anyone out there or is AccessD down?

It's just too quite.

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From JHewson at karta.com  Tue Jun 21 13:39:13 2005
From: JHewson at karta.com (Jim Hewson)
Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2005 13:39:13 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Just Checking....
Message-ID: <9C382E065F54AE48BC3AA7925DCBB01C036297C6@karta-exc-int.Karta.com>

I was thinking the same thing... 
I haven't received anything for about 24 hours!

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Carbonnell
Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2005 12:28 PM
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Subject: [AccessD] Just Checking....

Just checking to see if there is anyone out there or is AccessD down?

It's just too quite.

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From jim.moss at jlmoss.net  Tue Jun 21 13:37:11 2005
From: jim.moss at jlmoss.net (Jim Moss)
Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2005 13:37:11 -0500 (CDT)
Subject: [AccessD] Just Checking....
In-Reply-To: <e04a6c9205062110283583db8a@mail.gmail.com>
References: <e04a6c9205062110283583db8a@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <60446.65.196.182.34.1119379031.squirrel@65.196.182.34>

Old Egyptian proverb: Just because the surface of the water is calm
doesn't mean that there are no crcodiles

> Just checking to see if there is anyone out there or is AccessD down?
>
> It's just too quite.
>
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From starkey at wanadoo.nl  Tue Jun 21 13:59:52 2005
From: starkey at wanadoo.nl (StaRKeY)
Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2005 20:59:52 +0200
Subject: [AccessD] OT - Visual Basic 6.0 - Is Form Open
In-Reply-To: <46B976F2B698FF46A4FE7636509B22DF1B5CA3@stekelbes.ithelps.local>
Message-ID: <20050621185543.593F545784@smtp6.wanadoo.nl>

Hi all, 

Also have a look at the form's objectstate in Access, you can use this also
instead of looping through each form, which could get lengthy. If I remember
right though I am not sure as of which Access version this functionality
exists.

Eg. 
    If SysCmd(acSysCmdGetObjectState, acForm, <FORM-NAME>) = OBJSTATE_OPEN
Then 
        MsgBox "Form is open" 
    End If 


Regards, 
Eric Starkenburg 


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Verzonden: maandag 20 juni 2005 19:20 
Aan: Access Developers discussion and problem solving 
Onderwerp: RE: [AccessD] OT - Visual Basic 6.0 - Is Form Open 

I recal it is much easier than in access. 

If formname.load  = true then 


Erwin 

        


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[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] Namens Paul Hartland 
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Verzonden: vrijdag 17 juni 2005 15:09 
Aan: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' 
Onderwerp: RE: [AccessD] OT - Visual Basic 6.0 - Is Form Open 

Thanks, works a treat..... 

Hope I can help out sometime 

-----Original Message----- 
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com 
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Griffiths,
Richard 
Sent: 17 June 2005 13:56 
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving 
Subject: RE: [AccessD] OT - Visual Basic 6.0 - Is Form Open 

Maybe this 


Private Sub Form_Load() 

If IsLoaded("Form1") = True Then 
MsgBox "Yep, loaded" 
End If 

End Sub 

Private Function IsLoaded(ByVal FormName As String) As Boolean 

Dim f As Form 

'check all open forms 
For Each f In Forms 

If f.Name = FormName Then 

'yep, form is loaded 
IsLoaded = True 

'no need to loop again... 
Exit For 

End If 

Next ' f 

End Function 

Richard 

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Sent: 17 June 2005 12:43 
To: accessd 
Subject: [AccessD] OT - Visual Basic 6.0 - Is Form Open 


To all, 

Does anyone know how to find out if a form is open in a Visual Basic 6.0
application ? 

Thanks in advance for any help on this. 

Paul Hartland 
Database Developer 

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From Jim.Hale at FleetPride.com  Tue Jun 21 14:04:14 2005
From: Jim.Hale at FleetPride.com (Hale, Jim)
Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2005 14:04:14 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Eval function
Message-ID: <6A6AA9DF57E4F046BDA1E273BDDB6772337685@corp-es01.fleetpride.com>

Okay, since it is quiet maybe we can start a discussion about the Eval()
function. The article I just finished reading says  "The Eval function lets
you deliver applications that can create themselves dynamicaly at runtime.
You can build your app code at runtime, pass it to the Eval statement, and
have your dynamically generated line of code processed." Sounds
interesting.Anybody use it? 
Jim Hale

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Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2005 12:11:27 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Just Checking....
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JC & Drew must have gone on vacation or called a truce ;)

:P



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[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Jim Hewson
Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2005 11:39 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Just Checking....


I was thinking the same thing... 
I haven't received anything for about 24 hours!

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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Bryan
Carbonnell
Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2005 12:28 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: [AccessD] Just Checking....

Just checking to see if there is anyone out there or is AccessD down?

It's just too quite.

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From mmattys at rochester.rr.com  Tue Jun 21 15:03:32 2005
From: mmattys at rochester.rr.com (Michael R Mattys)
Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2005 16:03:32 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Eval function
References: <6A6AA9DF57E4F046BDA1E273BDDB6772337685@corp-es01.fleetpride.com>
Message-ID: <016a01c5769c$4e59c950$0202a8c0@default>

----- Original Message -----
From: "Hale, Jim" <Jim.Hale at fleetpride.com>
To: "'Accessd (E-mail)" <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2005 3:04 PM
Subject: [AccessD] Eval function


> Okay, since it is quiet maybe we can start a discussion about the Eval()
> function. The article I just finished reading says  "The Eval function
lets
> you deliver applications that can create themselves dynamicaly at runtime.
> You can build your app code at runtime, pass it to the Eval statement, and
> have your dynamically generated line of code processed." Sounds
> interesting.Anybody use it?
> Jim Hale


Jim,

What else does this article say?
Why do I need the eval function if I've already
written the code to create a form, controls, CBF etc?

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From scapistrant at symphonyinfo.com  Tue Jun 21 15:49:19 2005
From: scapistrant at symphonyinfo.com (Steve Capistrant)
Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2005 15:49:19 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Eval function
Message-ID: <855499653F55AD4190B242717DF132BC082CA8@dewey.Symphony.local>

The EVAL function is indispensable for calling function procedures whose
names are stored on tables.  For example, in our applications, we
maintain a central table named "Output", which is a list of all reports,
export function, etc., making it very easy to present a list of outputs
on a searchable screen, or to use them dynamically in menu structures.

Every output requires that you first open a  certain "launchpad" form to
enter parameters (date range, font size, sort order, etc).  We have a
function written that opens this launchpad.  The outputs table stores
the function name -- e.g. "SetupLabels()" -- in a field named
"TargetProcedure".  Once the user chooses that output, your code needs
to grab that function name and run it.  That's where the EVAL() function
comes in.  Use code like this:

-------
Public Function RunOutput(lngOutputID As Long) As Boolean
Dim strProc As String
strX = "Select * from Output WHERE OutputID = " & lngOutputID
Set rs = db.OpenRecordset(strX, dbOpenDynaset, dbSeeChanges)
strProc = rs!TargetProcedure
Eval (strProc)
---------

The only odd thing is that the function name as stored in the table MUST
include parentheses, even if there are no parameters specified.  

Steve Capistrant
scapistrant at symphonyinfo.com
Symphony Information Services
7308 Aspen Lane North, Suite 132
Brooklyn Park, MN  55428
763-391-7400
www.symphonyinfo.com

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Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2005 3:31 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Eval function

----- Original Message -----
From: "Hale, Jim" <Jim.Hale at fleetpride.com>
To: "'Accessd (E-mail)" <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2005 3:04 PM
Subject: [AccessD] Eval function


> Okay, since it is quiet maybe we can start a discussion about the
Eval()
> function. The article I just finished reading says  "The Eval function
lets
> you deliver applications that can create themselves dynamicaly at
runtime.
> You can build your app code at runtime, pass it to the Eval statement,
and
> have your dynamically generated line of code processed." Sounds
> interesting.Anybody use it?
> Jim Hale


Jim,

What else does this article say?
Why do I need the eval function if I've already
written the code to create a form, controls, CBF etc?

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From stephen at bondsoftware.co.nz  Tue Jun 21 15:56:56 2005
From: stephen at bondsoftware.co.nz (Stephen Bond)
Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2005 08:56:56 +1200
Subject: [AccessD] Eval function
Message-ID: <70F3D727890C784291D8433E9C418F29088B08@server.bondsoftware.co.nz>

Back in the early releases of Access you could use the @ character to pretty up the default MsgBox display.  The @ character divided the display into 3 separate entities, the first bold, the second two not, each delimited by a blank line.  So, 
MsgBox "File missing at The file FredDagg is missing at Please correct and re-try"
would give you a nicely laid out msgbox.

Somewhere in the last couple of releases, Access changed where MsgBox was processed.  Somebody else will have to fill in the precise details here but the end result was that the @ characters were not recognised any more.  So, this was the workaround:  

     eval("Msgbox(""" & prompt & """, " & Buttons & ", """ & Title & """)")

Apparently the Eval takes the String passed to it, evaluates it, and then processes it as a line of code.  And it does give the nicely laid out msgbox. 

My 2cents 

Stephen Bond


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> Sent: Wednesday, 22 June 2005 8:04 a.m.
> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] Eval function
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Hale, Jim" <Jim.Hale at fleetpride.com>
> To: "'Accessd (E-mail)" <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2005 3:04 PM
> Subject: [AccessD] Eval function
> 
> 
> > Okay, since it is quiet maybe we can start a discussion 
> about the Eval()
> > function. The article I just finished reading says  "The 
> Eval function
> lets
> > you deliver applications that can create themselves 
> dynamicaly at runtime.
> > You can build your app code at runtime, pass it to the Eval 
> statement, and
> > have your dynamically generated line of code processed." Sounds
> > interesting.Anybody use it?
> > Jim Hale
> 
> 
> Jim,
> 
> What else does this article say?
> Why do I need the eval function if I've already
> written the code to create a form, controls, CBF etc?
> 
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From Jim.Hale at FleetPride.com  Tue Jun 21 16:21:50 2005
From: Jim.Hale at FleetPride.com (Hale, Jim)
Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2005 16:21:50 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Eval function
Message-ID: <6A6AA9DF57E4F046BDA1E273BDDB677233768D@corp-es01.fleetpride.com>

Interesting. Does it work in mdes? I ask because the article says "for a
function like Eval to work its magic, your application execution environment
must have access to the language's interpreter. Because Access is
distributed with the VBA interpreter we get to use the Eval function." But
since mdes are already compiled how can it work?
Jim

-----Original Message-----
From: Steve Capistrant [mailto:scapistrant at symphonyinfo.com]
Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2005 3:49 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Eval function


The EVAL function is indispensable for calling function procedures whose
names are stored on tables.  For example, in our applications, we
maintain a central table named "Output", which is a list of all reports,
export function, etc., making it very easy to present a list of outputs
on a searchable screen, or to use them dynamically in menu structures.

Every output requires that you first open a  certain "launchpad" form to
enter parameters (date range, font size, sort order, etc).  We have a
function written that opens this launchpad.  The outputs table stores
the function name -- e.g. "SetupLabels()" -- in a field named
"TargetProcedure".  Once the user chooses that output, your code needs
to grab that function name and run it.  That's where the EVAL() function
comes in.  Use code like this:

-------
Public Function RunOutput(lngOutputID As Long) As Boolean
Dim strProc As String
strX = "Select * from Output WHERE OutputID = " & lngOutputID
Set rs = db.OpenRecordset(strX, dbOpenDynaset, dbSeeChanges)
strProc = rs!TargetProcedure
Eval (strProc)
---------

The only odd thing is that the function name as stored in the table MUST
include parentheses, even if there are no parameters specified.  

Steve Capistrant
scapistrant at symphonyinfo.com
Symphony Information Services
7308 Aspen Lane North, Suite 132
Brooklyn Park, MN  55428
763-391-7400
www.symphonyinfo.com

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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Michael R
Mattys
Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2005 3:31 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Eval function

----- Original Message -----
From: "Hale, Jim" <Jim.Hale at fleetpride.com>
To: "'Accessd (E-mail)" <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2005 3:04 PM
Subject: [AccessD] Eval function


> Okay, since it is quiet maybe we can start a discussion about the
Eval()
> function. The article I just finished reading says  "The Eval function
lets
> you deliver applications that can create themselves dynamicaly at
runtime.
> You can build your app code at runtime, pass it to the Eval statement,
and
> have your dynamically generated line of code processed." Sounds
> interesting.Anybody use it?
> Jim Hale


Jim,

What else does this article say?
Why do I need the eval function if I've already
written the code to create a form, controls, CBF etc?

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From Jim.Hale at FleetPride.com  Tue Jun 21 16:28:44 2005
From: Jim.Hale at FleetPride.com (Hale, Jim)
Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2005 16:28:44 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Eval function
Message-ID: <6A6AA9DF57E4F046BDA1E273BDDB677233768E@corp-es01.fleetpride.com>

the article says code like this:

Select Case (me.txtProcessingtype)
Case "Update"
	Call UpdateRoutine
Case "Delete"
	Call DeleteRoutine
Case "Add"
	Call AddRoutine
End Select

can be written
Eval me.txtProcessingtype & "Routine"

Jim Hale

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Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2005 3:04 PM
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Subject: Re: [AccessD] Eval function


----- Original Message -----
From: "Hale, Jim" <Jim.Hale at fleetpride.com>
To: "'Accessd (E-mail)" <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2005 3:04 PM
Subject: [AccessD] Eval function


> Okay, since it is quiet maybe we can start a discussion about the Eval()
> function. The article I just finished reading says  "The Eval function
lets
> you deliver applications that can create themselves dynamicaly at runtime.
> You can build your app code at runtime, pass it to the Eval statement, and
> have your dynamically generated line of code processed." Sounds
> interesting.Anybody use it?
> Jim Hale


Jim,

What else does this article say?
Why do I need the eval function if I've already
written the code to create a form, controls, CBF etc?

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From cfoust at infostatsystems.com  Tue Jun 21 16:44:37 2005
From: cfoust at infostatsystems.com (Charlotte Foust)
Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2005 14:44:37 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] FileMaker Pro
Message-ID: <E61FC1D4B1918244905B113C680BEA86873AAF@infoserver01.infostat.local>

Since it's so slow today, if anyone is into pain, there is a 30-day free
trial (warning! HUGE download) of FileMaker Pro 7 available from the
FileMaker website.  Of all the versions so far, this comes the closest
to being relational in that you can create "relationships" between
mutliple tables rather than just linking two tables at a time and they
have switched from the file per table format that they used to use.
However, You can ONLY create relationships and indexes.  You can't
create a primary or unique key but you can cascade updates and deletes
through any relationship!  They are touting a huge maximum size of
terabytes, but that includes the equivalent of memo fields and ole
objects.  There is no provision for a split FE-BE, but they allow you to
run it on the web. 

Charlotte Foust
Infostat Systems, Inc.


From scapistrant at symphonyinfo.com  Tue Jun 21 16:45:10 2005
From: scapistrant at symphonyinfo.com (Steve Capistrant)
Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2005 16:45:10 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Eval function
Message-ID: <855499653F55AD4190B242717DF132BC082CAB@dewey.Symphony.local>

Yep. Works without a hitch in MDEs.

Steve Capistrant
scapistrant at symphonyinfo.com
Symphony Information Services
7308 Aspen Lane North, Suite 132
Brooklyn Park, MN  55428
763-391-7400
www.symphonyinfo.com

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Hale, Jim
Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2005 4:31 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Eval function

Interesting. Does it work in mdes? I ask because the article says "for a
function like Eval to work its magic, your application execution
environment
must have access to the language's interpreter. Because Access is
distributed with the VBA interpreter we get to use the Eval function."
But
since mdes are already compiled how can it work?
Jim

-----Original Message-----
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Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2005 3:49 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Eval function


The EVAL function is indispensable for calling function procedures whose
names are stored on tables.  For example, in our applications, we
maintain a central table named "Output", which is a list of all reports,
export function, etc., making it very easy to present a list of outputs
on a searchable screen, or to use them dynamically in menu structures.

Every output requires that you first open a  certain "launchpad" form to
enter parameters (date range, font size, sort order, etc).  We have a
function written that opens this launchpad.  The outputs table stores
the function name -- e.g. "SetupLabels()" -- in a field named
"TargetProcedure".  Once the user chooses that output, your code needs
to grab that function name and run it.  That's where the EVAL() function
comes in.  Use code like this:

-------
Public Function RunOutput(lngOutputID As Long) As Boolean
Dim strProc As String
strX = "Select * from Output WHERE OutputID = " & lngOutputID
Set rs = db.OpenRecordset(strX, dbOpenDynaset, dbSeeChanges)
strProc = rs!TargetProcedure
Eval (strProc)
---------

The only odd thing is that the function name as stored in the table MUST
include parentheses, even if there are no parameters specified.  

Steve Capistrant
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[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Michael R
Mattys
Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2005 3:31 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Eval function

----- Original Message -----
From: "Hale, Jim" <Jim.Hale at fleetpride.com>
To: "'Accessd (E-mail)" <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2005 3:04 PM
Subject: [AccessD] Eval function


> Okay, since it is quiet maybe we can start a discussion about the
Eval()
> function. The article I just finished reading says  "The Eval function
lets
> you deliver applications that can create themselves dynamicaly at
runtime.
> You can build your app code at runtime, pass it to the Eval statement,
and
> have your dynamically generated line of code processed." Sounds
> interesting.Anybody use it?
> Jim Hale


Jim,

What else does this article say?
Why do I need the eval function if I've already
written the code to create a form, controls, CBF etc?

----

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Mattys MapLib for Microsoft MapPoint
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From DWUTKA at marlow.com  Tue Jun 21 16:45:52 2005
From: DWUTKA at marlow.com (DWUTKA at marlow.com)
Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2005 16:45:52 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Just Checking....
Message-ID: <123701F54509D9119A4F00D0B747349016D74B@main2.marlow.com>

Nope, just busy...and there hasn't been anything good to argue
about.......we normally just feed off what gets posted.  It's not our fault
the other listers aren't posting juicy stuff to dig into!

Drew

-----Original Message-----
From: dmcafee at pacbell.net [mailto:dmcafee at pacbell.net]
Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2005 2:11 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Just Checking....


JC & Drew must have gone on vacation or called a truce ;)

:P



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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Jim Hewson
Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2005 11:39 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Just Checking....


I was thinking the same thing... 
I haven't received anything for about 24 hours!

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Bryan
Carbonnell
Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2005 12:28 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: [AccessD] Just Checking....

Just checking to see if there is anyone out there or is AccessD down?

It's just too quite.

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From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com  Tue Jun 21 18:07:58 2005
From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (John W. Colby)
Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2005 19:07:58 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Just Checking....
In-Reply-To: <123701F54509D9119A4F00D0B747349016D74B@main2.marlow.com>
Message-ID: <002e01c576b6$10ba7df0$6c7aa8c0@ColbyM6805>

Precisely so let's start one.  

Anyone who doesn't use a naming convention is a dolt.

;-)

John W. Colby
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Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2005 5:46 PM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Just Checking....


Nope, just busy...and there hasn't been anything good to argue
about.......we normally just feed off what gets posted.  It's not our fault
the other listers aren't posting juicy stuff to dig into!

Drew

-----Original Message-----
From: dmcafee at pacbell.net [mailto:dmcafee at pacbell.net]
Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2005 2:11 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Just Checking....


JC & Drew must have gone on vacation or called a truce ;)

:P



-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Jim Hewson
Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2005 11:39 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Just Checking....


I was thinking the same thing... 
I haven't received anything for about 24 hours!

-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Bryan Carbonnell
Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2005 12:28 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: [AccessD] Just Checking....

Just checking to see if there is anyone out there or is AccessD down?

It's just too quite.

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From jmhecht at earthlink.net  Tue Jun 21 19:15:19 2005
From: jmhecht at earthlink.net (Joe Hecht)
Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2005 17:15:19 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Just Checking....
In-Reply-To: <002e01c576b6$10ba7df0$6c7aa8c0@ColbyM6805>
Message-ID: <002601c576bf$7a219720$6401a8c0@laptop1>

John is right. ( Just trying to be helpful)

Joe Hecht
Los Angeles CA

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[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of John W. Colby
Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2005 4:08 PM
To: access at joe2.endjunk.com; 'Access Developers discussion and problem
solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Just Checking....

Precisely so let's start one.  

Anyone who doesn't use a naming convention is a dolt.

;-)

John W. Colby
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Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2005 5:46 PM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Just Checking....


Nope, just busy...and there hasn't been anything good to argue
about.......we normally just feed off what gets posted.  It's not our fault
the other listers aren't posting juicy stuff to dig into!

Drew

-----Original Message-----
From: dmcafee at pacbell.net [mailto:dmcafee at pacbell.net]
Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2005 2:11 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Just Checking....


JC & Drew must have gone on vacation or called a truce ;)

:P



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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Jim Hewson
Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2005 11:39 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Just Checking....


I was thinking the same thing... 
I haven't received anything for about 24 hours!

-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Bryan Carbonnell
Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2005 12:28 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: [AccessD] Just Checking....

Just checking to see if there is anyone out there or is AccessD down?

It's just too quite.

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From nd500_lo at charter.net  Tue Jun 21 19:37:10 2005
From: nd500_lo at charter.net (Dian)
Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2005 17:37:10 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Just Checking....
In-Reply-To: <002601c576bf$7a219720$6401a8c0@laptop1>
Message-ID: <4532ph$vqgrh4@mxip05a.cluster1.charter.net>

Agreed...

-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Joe Hecht
Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2005 5:15 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Just Checking....

John is right. ( Just trying to be helpful)

Joe Hecht
Los Angeles CA

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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of John W. Colby
Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2005 4:08 PM
To: access at joe2.endjunk.com; 'Access Developers discussion and problem
solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Just Checking....

Precisely so let's start one.  

Anyone who doesn't use a naming convention is a dolt.

;-)

John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com 

Contribute your unused CPU cycles to a good cause:
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Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2005 5:46 PM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Just Checking....


Nope, just busy...and there hasn't been anything good to argue
about.......we normally just feed off what gets posted.  It's not our fault
the other listers aren't posting juicy stuff to dig into!

Drew

-----Original Message-----
From: dmcafee at pacbell.net [mailto:dmcafee at pacbell.net]
Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2005 2:11 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Just Checking....


JC & Drew must have gone on vacation or called a truce ;)

:P



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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Jim Hewson
Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2005 11:39 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Just Checking....


I was thinking the same thing... 
I haven't received anything for about 24 hours!

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Bryan Carbonnell
Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2005 12:28 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: [AccessD] Just Checking....

Just checking to see if there is anyone out there or is AccessD down?

It's just too quite.

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From newsgrps at dalyn.co.nz  Tue Jun 21 20:24:57 2005
From: newsgrps at dalyn.co.nz (David Emerson)
Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2005 13:24:57 +1200
Subject: [AccessD] Linking Graph to Report
Message-ID: <6.2.1.2.0.20050622131317.031142c0@mail.dalyn.co.nz>

Access XP adp, SQL2000.

I have a report with a graph on it.  The graph is to show the number of 
days it took to process client information.  Each month should have its own 
graph on a separate page.  The reports source is a stored procedure which 
provides the months as an integer in the form yyyymm.

SELECT ttmpPlanTrackGraph.ConsultPlanFranchise, ttmpPlanTrackGraph.YrMth
FROM ttmpPlanTrackGraph
GROUP BY ttmpPlanTrackGraph.ConsultPlanFranchise, ttmpPlanTrackGraph.YrMth

The graphs source is also a stored procedure which includes a field with 
the month in the same format.

SELECT ttmpPlanTrackGraph.ClientName, ttmpPlanTrackGraph.FranDays AS [Work 
Days in Fran], ttmpPlanTrackGraph.BurDays AS [Work Days in Bureau], 
ttmpPlanTrackGraph.ConsultPlanFranchise, ttmpPlanTrackGraph.YrMth
FROM ttmpPlanTrackGraph

I have set the Link Child Field and Link Master fields both to YrMth.  The 
report shows a different page for each month, however each graph shows all 
records, not just the one for the pages month.

How do I get only the relevant month's data showing on each page?

Regards

David Emerson
Dalyn Software Ltd
25 Cunliffe St, Churton Park
Wellington, New Zealand
Ph/Fax (04) 478-7456
Mobile 027-280-9348 

From Bruce.Bruen at railcorp.nsw.gov.au  Tue Jun 21 21:44:57 2005
From: Bruce.Bruen at railcorp.nsw.gov.au (Bruen, Bruce)
Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2005 12:44:57 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] A2K: How to change subform view
Message-ID: <F2BE8EAB3EA585418337B71BCE6F3BF304EBC6@msmet100.rail.nsw.gov.au>

Sorry about the delayed thanks guys but Thanks.

It's a weird concept tho!

bruce 

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Mattys
Sent: Friday, 10 June 2005 9:24 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] A2K: How to change subform view

Hi Bruce,

It was not a mistake.
That's how it works.

----

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To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving"
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Friday, June 10, 2005 1:54 AM
Subject: RE: [AccessD] A2K: How to change subform view


> Michael,
>
> Both your Docmds are the same?????
>
>
> bruce
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Michael R 
> Mattys
> Sent: Friday, 10 June 2005 12:38 PM
> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] A2K: How to change subform view
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Bruen, Bruce" <Bruce.Bruen at railcorp.nsw.gov.au>
> To: <AccessD at databaseadvisors.com>
> Sent: Thursday, June 09, 2005 10:25 PM
> Subject: [AccessD] A2K: How to change subform view
>
>
> Hi guys again,
>
> Memory has failed me.  In Access 2000, what is the code trick to 
> change the subform view from datasheet to normal?
> The following 2003 code does not work.
>
> Private Sub Test_DblClick(Cancel As Integer)
>     DoCmd.RunCommand acCmdSubformFormView End Sub
> ---------
>
> bruce
>
>     'Form to Datasheet (It's a subform)
>     If Me.Customers.Form.CurrentView = 1 Then
>         Me.Customers.SetFocus
>         DoCmd.RunCommand acCmdSubformDatasheet
>     End If
>
>     'Datasheet to Form
>     If Me.Customers.Form.CurrentView = 2 Then
>         Me.Customers.SetFocus
>         DoCmd.RunCommand acCmdSubformDatasheet
>     End If
>
> ----
>
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From andy at minstersystems.co.uk  Wed Jun 22 01:34:00 2005
From: andy at minstersystems.co.uk (Andy Lacey)
Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2005 07:34:00 +0100
Subject: [AccessD] Eval function
In-Reply-To: <855499653F55AD4190B242717DF132BC082CAB@dewey.Symphony.local>
Message-ID: <000001c576f4$60a34de0$11410c54@minster33c3r25>

Yes I use it for a table-driven menu system.

-- Andy Lacey
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> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of 
> Steve Capistrant
> Sent: 21 June 2005 22:45
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> Subject: RE: [AccessD] Eval function
> 
> 
> Yep. Works without a hitch in MDEs.
> 
> Steve Capistrant
> scapistrant at symphonyinfo.com
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> -----Original Message-----
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> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Hale, Jim
> Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2005 4:31 PM
> To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
> Subject: RE: [AccessD] Eval function
> 
> Interesting. Does it work in mdes? I ask because the article 
> says "for a function like Eval to work its magic, your 
> application execution environment must have access to the 
> language's interpreter. Because Access is distributed with 
> the VBA interpreter we get to use the Eval function." But 
> since mdes are already compiled how can it work? Jim
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Steve Capistrant [mailto:scapistrant at symphonyinfo.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2005 3:49 PM
> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> Subject: RE: [AccessD] Eval function
> 
> 
> The EVAL function is indispensable for calling function 
> procedures whose names are stored on tables.  For example, in 
> our applications, we maintain a central table named "Output", 
> which is a list of all reports, export function, etc., making 
> it very easy to present a list of outputs on a searchable 
> screen, or to use them dynamically in menu structures.
> 
> Every output requires that you first open a  certain 
> "launchpad" form to enter parameters (date range, font size, 
> sort order, etc).  We have a function written that opens this 
> launchpad.  The outputs table stores the function name -- 
> e.g. "SetupLabels()" -- in a field named "TargetProcedure".  
> Once the user chooses that output, your code needs to grab 
> that function name and run it.  That's where the EVAL() 
> function comes in.  Use code like this:
> 
> -------
> Public Function RunOutput(lngOutputID As Long) As Boolean
> Dim strProc As String
> strX = "Select * from Output WHERE OutputID = " & lngOutputID 
> Set rs = db.OpenRecordset(strX, dbOpenDynaset, dbSeeChanges) 
> strProc = rs!TargetProcedure Eval (strProc)
> ---------
> 
> The only odd thing is that the function name as stored in the 
> table MUST include parentheses, even if there are no 
> parameters specified.  
> 
> Steve Capistrant
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> Michael R Mattys
> Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2005 3:31 PM
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> ----- Original Message -----
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> To: "'Accessd (E-mail)" <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2005 3:04 PM
> Subject: [AccessD] Eval function
> 
> 
> > Okay, since it is quiet maybe we can start a discussion about the
> Eval()
> > function. The article I just finished reading says  "The 
> Eval function
> lets
> > you deliver applications that can create themselves dynamicaly at
> runtime.
> > You can build your app code at runtime, pass it to the Eval 
> statement,
> and
> > have your dynamically generated line of code processed." Sounds 
> > interesting.Anybody use it? Jim Hale
> 
> 
> Jim,
> 
> What else does this article say?
> Why do I need the eval function if I've already
> written the code to create a form, controls, CBF etc?
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From Jdemarco at hudsonhealthplan.org  Wed Jun 22 08:03:44 2005
From: Jdemarco at hudsonhealthplan.org (Jim DeMarco)
Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2005 09:03:44 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] OT: Sharepoint Security
Message-ID: <08F823FD83787D4BA0B99CA580AD3C74016C3A55@TTNEXCHCL2.hshhp.com>

List,

I've done some Googling but I can't seem to find the answer to this odd problem.  I set up a Sharepoint site as a test bed (Sharepoint Services not Server) and gave a few users access.  No matter what rights I give the users they have full admin rights to the sight.  I set up custom security groups and the site is completely ignoring them.  To further add to the mystery I removed on user (she is not a member of any security group therefore should not have access to the site) and she can still get in with full admin rights.  Is it possible that Sharepoint is deferring to Windows rights?  These are all IT staff here and have more liberal rights to our network than the average user.

Does anyone have a clue?  A push in the right direction would be appreciated.

TIA

Jim DeMarco
Director of Application Development
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From Chester_Kaup at kindermorgan.com  Wed Jun 22 09:05:15 2005
From: Chester_Kaup at kindermorgan.com (Kaup, Chester)
Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2005 09:05:15 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Comparing tables question
Message-ID: <F1DD538AE6BCE74EBE562DE51564D322DB86B7@houexch1.kindermorgan.com>

I have two tables both of which have the fields Pattern and Well. The
field pattern will appear several times with a different corresponding
well. I need to compare each unique pattern well combination in table1
to see if the same unique combination exists in table2 and output a list
of the ones that have no match. I am at a loss of how to do this. Thanks
for ideas.

 

Chester Kaup

Engineering Technician

Kinder Morgan CO2 Company, LLP

Office (432) 688-3797

FAX (432) 688-3799

 



From JHewson at karta.com  Wed Jun 22 09:08:09 2005
From: JHewson at karta.com (Jim Hewson)
Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2005 09:08:09 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] OT: Sharepoint Security
Message-ID: <9C382E065F54AE48BC3AA7925DCBB01C0362982C@karta-exc-int.Karta.com>

Jim,
I'm a novice, but will become the SharePoint "Expert" when I change
jobs, in my company, next month.  I'm interested in the outcome of your
question.
A couple of random thoughts...
There are two levels of security for SharePoint.  They are Central
Administration and Site Administration rights.  Central take precedence
over site rights.  If a person is a member of the Central Administration
group which manages the settings for the Web Server and virtual servers,
they effectively have Administrative rights to the entire portal.
In Site Administration, IIRC, there is a toggle somewhere to designate a
person to have the same rights as the parent area or site.
Let me know if you have found the solution.
Regards,
Jim H.

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Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2005 8:04 AM
To: AccessD (E-mail)
Subject: [AccessD] OT: Sharepoint Security

List,

I've done some Googling but I can't seem to find the answer to this odd
problem.  I set up a Sharepoint site as a test bed (Sharepoint Services
not Server) and gave a few users access.  No matter what rights I give
the users they have full admin rights to the sight.  I set up custom
security groups and the site is completely ignoring them.  To further
add to the mystery I removed on user (she is not a member of any
security group therefore should not have access to the site) and she can
still get in with full admin rights.  Is it possible that Sharepoint is
deferring to Windows rights?  These are all IT staff here and have more
liberal rights to our network than the average user.

Does anyone have a clue?  A push in the right direction would be
appreciated.

TIA

Jim DeMarco
Director of Application Development
Hudson Health Plan



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From bchacc at san.rr.com  Wed Jun 22 09:26:12 2005
From: bchacc at san.rr.com (Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software)
Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2005 07:26:12 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Open File Dialog Box Call Fails
Message-ID: <00b401c57736$57c70fd0$6c01a8c0@HAL9004>

Dear List:

I have a client who's selling an app I wrote where I use the code from the ADH to call the file open dialog box:

Declare Function adh_apiGetOpenFileName Lib "comdlg32.dll" _
 Alias "GetOpenFileNameA" (ofn As tagOPENFILENAME) As Boolean

I haven't worked on the app for several months and it's been very stable until a couple of weeks ago when this call began to fail with no error message.  Just didn't open the dialog box.  Then it failed on another computer.  Then on another one.  Now no computer in his place runs this api.

I went over to his place and stepped through the code and sure enough it goes to the api call and then goes right through the api call without opening the dialog box.

If we try to drop the common dialog control onto a form in design view from the additional tools list in the toolbox we get a message that says the OLE server isn't registered.

So I need to figure out 

1) how to get the OLE server registered (unregistered first I suppose) and see if that is somehow hosing the file open dialog box
2) figure out if there's a problem with comdlg32.dll
3) see if I can determine why this app suddenly went south so that it doesn't happen at one of his customer sites.

He's using Access 2000 SP-3 but also fails in AXP.  The app fails on both W2K and WXP.  He's pretty careful about virus scanning.  I don't think it is a virus even though it behaves like one.  Is it possible that it got hosed by an automatic windows update?

Any clue as to what's going on here would be greatly appreciated.

MTIA,

Rocky Smolin
Beach Access Software
http://www.e-z-mrp.com
858-259-4334


From pedro at plex.nl  Wed Jun 22 09:24:03 2005
From: pedro at plex.nl (Pedro Janssen)
Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2005 16:24:03 +0200
Subject: [AccessD] invalid number of arguments
References: <30BC111F638EB54082001A7E7282FE41114D45@elmo.co.montgomery.ny.us><007b01c57128$6c07acc0$fac581d5@pedro>
	<00ba01c571b1$155f3bc0$0202a8c0@default>
Message-ID: <002001c57736$2e2e4210$fac581d5@pedro>

Hello Michael and others,

i have made a database for my wife who works in a small firm that sells
bricks for building houses. In this database data about the brick and the
clients who sell them, is stored. When the firm grew bigger, they invested
in a
commercial database for administration purposes. In this database however,
i can't change anything. My wife don't want to ad each new client in two
different databases. So i want to use the client table from the commercial
database, because the clientID's are identical. The commercial database
table with clients [DEBSTM] can be linked to the "brick" database
[tblDebiteur].
 When i make a copy and rename the table [DEBSTM], with a macro to
[tblDebiteur], the table is still linked, so that i can't make any changes
to it.

I need the following changes (with an autoexec macro)
- unlink the table or copy the [DEBSTM] in a way that i have a unlinked
table left.
- Change the name of [DEBSTM] to [tblDebiteur]
- Change the IDfield Nummer into DebID and from text to Number
- Changing fieldname Plaats to Woonplaats

i have asked a few times question in accessd about this subject the last
months, but i never had the time to finished it. My wife is still naging
about it, so i really want to complete it now.
Last weeks i became some codes for unlinking, but stumbled into errors.

I don't want to use a query from this linked table, to adjust the names
because i then have to adjust al other query's and tables.
Using the same names for the table and fields would be the best way.

Or is it an idea ( it came to my mind when i typed this mail), to use
a table make query from [DEBSTM], use aliases for the fields
and name it [tblDebiteur], by autoexec macro. But what about changing the
data type from text to number??

TIA

Pedro Janssen
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To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving"
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Sent: Wednesday, June 15, 2005 3:49 PM
Subject: Re: [AccessD] invalid number of arguments


> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Pedro Janssen" <pedro at plex.nl>
> To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving"
> <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2005 5:30 PM
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] invalid number of arguments
> [Snip]
>
> > Let me explain a little more why i need to delete the link:
> > I have a linked table.
> > I need a copy of that table (structure and data) , without the copy is
> > beeing linked to.
> > After that i need to adjust, by code some field names.
> >
> > Who has done this before and can help me with this??
> [Snip]
>
> Pedro,
>
> I have done and can do what you're asking.
>
> It may be that you only need to ALIAS fields from your
> linked table in a query. Then again, you may have to delete
> the link in order to manipulate fields in the external database.
>
> Please explain exactly what you are going to do and
> we'll see which option needs implementation.
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From Jdemarco at hudsonhealthplan.org  Wed Jun 22 09:30:22 2005
From: Jdemarco at hudsonhealthplan.org (Jim DeMarco)
Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2005 10:30:22 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] OT: Sharepoint Security
Message-ID: <08F823FD83787D4BA0B99CA580AD3C74016C3A5B@TTNEXCHCL2.hshhp.com>

Well I just set up a non-IT staff member with Read access and that's all he could do (read).  When I removed him from the site he could not access it any longer.  So it looks like it may be using Windows Security to authenticate users.  Unfortunately I need to limit even our IT staff in various sections of the site so I've got to get a work around together.

I'll keep you posted.

Thanks,

Jim DeMarco

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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Jim Hewson
Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2005 10:08 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] OT: Sharepoint Security


Jim,
I'm a novice, but will become the SharePoint "Expert" when I change
jobs, in my company, next month.  I'm interested in the outcome of your
question.
A couple of random thoughts...
There are two levels of security for SharePoint.  They are Central
Administration and Site Administration rights.  Central take precedence
over site rights.  If a person is a member of the Central Administration
group which manages the settings for the Web Server and virtual servers,
they effectively have Administrative rights to the entire portal.
In Site Administration, IIRC, there is a toggle somewhere to designate a
person to have the same rights as the parent area or site.
Let me know if you have found the solution.
Regards,
Jim H.

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim DeMarco
Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2005 8:04 AM
To: AccessD (E-mail)
Subject: [AccessD] OT: Sharepoint Security

List,

I've done some Googling but I can't seem to find the answer to this odd
problem.  I set up a Sharepoint site as a test bed (Sharepoint Services
not Server) and gave a few users access.  No matter what rights I give
the users they have full admin rights to the sight.  I set up custom
security groups and the site is completely ignoring them.  To further
add to the mystery I removed on user (she is not a member of any
security group therefore should not have access to the site) and she can
still get in with full admin rights.  Is it possible that Sharepoint is
deferring to Windows rights?  These are all IT staff here and have more
liberal rights to our network than the average user.

Does anyone have a clue?  A push in the right direction would be
appreciated.

TIA

Jim DeMarco
Director of Application Development
Hudson Health Plan



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From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com  Wed Jun 22 09:33:15 2005
From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (John W. Colby)
Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2005 10:33:15 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Comparing tables question
In-Reply-To: <F1DD538AE6BCE74EBE562DE51564D322DB86B7@houexch1.kindermorgan.com>
Message-ID: <004f01c57737$57e68940$6c7aa8c0@ColbyM6805>

The process is infinitely easier if you have a single field PK in each table
- such as an autonumber.

1) Create a join on the two tables, joining pattern in one table to pattern
in the other table, and well in one table to well in the other table.  In
this query pull the PKs (autonumber) so that you have the PKID of each
record from each table where you DO HAVE A MATCH.

2) Save that query.

3) Now create a second "not in" query, where you pull the PK of the table
that you want to know is NOT IN the result set.  Join to the corresponding
PK in the result saved.  Make the join an outer join, all records in the
table you want to see the results in.  Now pull the PK of the saved query
and set a "not null" in the selection area.

The query should now show you only the records that are "not in" the saved
query created in step 1.

This kind of query is quite common and you will most likely eventually
become quite adept at creating them.


John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com 

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[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Kaup, Chester
Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2005 10:05 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: [AccessD] Comparing tables question


I have two tables both of which have the fields Pattern and Well. The field
pattern will appear several times with a different corresponding well. I
need to compare each unique pattern well combination in table1 to see if the
same unique combination exists in table2 and output a list of the ones that
have no match. I am at a loss of how to do this. Thanks for ideas.

 

Chester Kaup

Engineering Technician

Kinder Morgan CO2 Company, LLP

Office (432) 688-3797

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From bheid at appdevgrp.com  Wed Jun 22 09:39:58 2005
From: bheid at appdevgrp.com (Bobby Heid)
Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2005 10:39:58 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Open File Dialog Box Call Fails
In-Reply-To: <916187228923D311A6FE00A0CC3FAA30BED42E@ADGSERVER>
Message-ID: <916187228923D311A6FE00A0CC3FAA30ABEC67@ADGSERVER>

I wonder if it is some sort of service pack that has hosed something?  Or
maybe he installed something that put a different version of comdlg32.dll?

Bobby

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Rocky Smolin -
Beach Access Software
Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2005 10:26 AM
To: AccessD at databaseadvisors.com; dba-tech
Cc: Ben Saltzer
Subject: [AccessD] Open File Dialog Box Call Fails


Dear List:

I have a client who's selling an app I wrote where I use the code from the
ADH to call the file open dialog box:

Declare Function adh_apiGetOpenFileName Lib "comdlg32.dll" _  Alias
"GetOpenFileNameA" (ofn As tagOPENFILENAME) As Boolean

I haven't worked on the app for several months and it's been very stable
until a couple of weeks ago when this call began to fail with no error
message.  Just didn't open the dialog box.  Then it failed on another
computer.  Then on another one.  Now no computer in his place runs this api.

I went over to his place and stepped through the code and sure enough it
goes to the api call and then goes right through the api call without
opening the dialog box.

If we try to drop the common dialog control onto a form in design view from
the additional tools list in the toolbox we get a message that says the OLE
server isn't registered.

So I need to figure out 

1) how to get the OLE server registered (unregistered first I suppose) and
see if that is somehow hosing the file open dialog box
2) figure out if there's a problem with comdlg32.dll
3) see if I can determine why this app suddenly went south so that it
doesn't happen at one of his customer sites.

He's using Access 2000 SP-3 but also fails in AXP.  The app fails on both
W2K and WXP.  He's pretty careful about virus scanning.  I don't think it is
a virus even though it behaves like one.  Is it possible that it got hosed
by an automatic windows update?

Any clue as to what's going on here would be greatly appreciated.

MTIA,

Rocky Smolin
Beach Access Software
http://www.e-z-mrp.com
858-259-4334



From bchacc at san.rr.com  Wed Jun 22 09:44:00 2005
From: bchacc at san.rr.com (Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software)
Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2005 07:44:00 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Open File Dialog Box Call Fails
References: <916187228923D311A6FE00A0CC3FAA30ABEC67@ADGSERVER>
Message-ID: <00f401c57738$d3ed37e0$6c01a8c0@HAL9004>

Are you thinking Windows or Office service pack?

Rocky

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Bobby Heid" <bheid at appdevgrp.com>
To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'" 
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2005 7:39 AM
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Open File Dialog Box Call Fails


>I wonder if it is some sort of service pack that has hosed something?  Or
> maybe he installed something that put a different version of comdlg32.dll?
>
> Bobby
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Rocky Smolin -
> Beach Access Software
> Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2005 10:26 AM
> To: AccessD at databaseadvisors.com; dba-tech
> Cc: Ben Saltzer
> Subject: [AccessD] Open File Dialog Box Call Fails
>
>
> Dear List:
>
> I have a client who's selling an app I wrote where I use the code from the
> ADH to call the file open dialog box:
>
> Declare Function adh_apiGetOpenFileName Lib "comdlg32.dll" _  Alias
> "GetOpenFileNameA" (ofn As tagOPENFILENAME) As Boolean
>
> I haven't worked on the app for several months and it's been very stable
> until a couple of weeks ago when this call began to fail with no error
> message.  Just didn't open the dialog box.  Then it failed on another
> computer.  Then on another one.  Now no computer in his place runs this 
> api.
>
> I went over to his place and stepped through the code and sure enough it
> goes to the api call and then goes right through the api call without
> opening the dialog box.
>
> If we try to drop the common dialog control onto a form in design view 
> from
> the additional tools list in the toolbox we get a message that says the 
> OLE
> server isn't registered.
>
> So I need to figure out
>
> 1) how to get the OLE server registered (unregistered first I suppose) and
> see if that is somehow hosing the file open dialog box
> 2) figure out if there's a problem with comdlg32.dll
> 3) see if I can determine why this app suddenly went south so that it
> doesn't happen at one of his customer sites.
>
> He's using Access 2000 SP-3 but also fails in AXP.  The app fails on both
> W2K and WXP.  He's pretty careful about virus scanning.  I don't think it 
> is
> a virus even though it behaves like one.  Is it possible that it got hosed
> by an automatic windows update?
>
> Any clue as to what's going on here would be greatly appreciated.
>
> MTIA,
>
> Rocky Smolin
> Beach Access Software
> http://www.e-z-mrp.com
> 858-259-4334
>
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From bchacc at san.rr.com  Wed Jun 22 09:45:10 2005
From: bchacc at san.rr.com (Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software)
Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2005 07:45:10 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Open File Dialog Box Call Fails
References: <916187228923D311A6FE00A0CC3FAA30ABEC67@ADGSERVER>
Message-ID: <00f701c57738$fe18cfc0$6c01a8c0@HAL9004>

I suppose he could check the properties on his comdlg32.dll.  If it doesn't 
match the one I'm using (where the app still works) where could he find the 
old one?

TIA

Rocky

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Bobby Heid" <bheid at appdevgrp.com>
To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'" 
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2005 7:39 AM
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Open File Dialog Box Call Fails


>I wonder if it is some sort of service pack that has hosed something?  Or
> maybe he installed something that put a different version of comdlg32.dll?
>
> Bobby
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Rocky Smolin -
> Beach Access Software
> Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2005 10:26 AM
> To: AccessD at databaseadvisors.com; dba-tech
> Cc: Ben Saltzer
> Subject: [AccessD] Open File Dialog Box Call Fails
>
>
> Dear List:
>
> I have a client who's selling an app I wrote where I use the code from the
> ADH to call the file open dialog box:
>
> Declare Function adh_apiGetOpenFileName Lib "comdlg32.dll" _  Alias
> "GetOpenFileNameA" (ofn As tagOPENFILENAME) As Boolean
>
> I haven't worked on the app for several months and it's been very stable
> until a couple of weeks ago when this call began to fail with no error
> message.  Just didn't open the dialog box.  Then it failed on another
> computer.  Then on another one.  Now no computer in his place runs this 
> api.
>
> I went over to his place and stepped through the code and sure enough it
> goes to the api call and then goes right through the api call without
> opening the dialog box.
>
> If we try to drop the common dialog control onto a form in design view 
> from
> the additional tools list in the toolbox we get a message that says the 
> OLE
> server isn't registered.
>
> So I need to figure out
>
> 1) how to get the OLE server registered (unregistered first I suppose) and
> see if that is somehow hosing the file open dialog box
> 2) figure out if there's a problem with comdlg32.dll
> 3) see if I can determine why this app suddenly went south so that it
> doesn't happen at one of his customer sites.
>
> He's using Access 2000 SP-3 but also fails in AXP.  The app fails on both
> W2K and WXP.  He's pretty careful about virus scanning.  I don't think it 
> is
> a virus even though it behaves like one.  Is it possible that it got hosed
> by an automatic windows update?
>
> Any clue as to what's going on here would be greatly appreciated.
>
> MTIA,
>
> Rocky Smolin
> Beach Access Software
> http://www.e-z-mrp.com
> 858-259-4334
>
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From Jim.Hale at FleetPride.com  Wed Jun 22 09:49:30 2005
From: Jim.Hale at FleetPride.com (Hale, Jim)
Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2005 09:49:30 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Comparing tables question
Message-ID: <6A6AA9DF57E4F046BDA1E273BDDB6772337690@corp-es01.fleetpride.com>

Try this:
1) Create a groupby query on the fields pattern and well for table one
2)Create a groupby query on the fields pattern and well for table two
3)use the unmatched query wizard to create the needed query
4) the only trick is, after the wizard has created the query, go into design
view and make the second outer join(the wizard only creates one join)
5) you will wnd up with something like this

SELECT Table1.Patterns, Table1.Wells
FROM Table1 LEFT JOIN Table2 ON (Table1.Wells = Table2.Wells) AND
(Table1.Patterns = Table2.Patterns)
WHERE (((Table2.Patterns) Is Null));

the resulting query produces a data set of pattern/well combos not found in
table 2. HTH
Jim Hale
-----Original Message-----
From: Kaup, Chester [mailto:Chester_Kaup at kindermorgan.com]
Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2005 9:05 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: [AccessD] Comparing tables question


I have two tables both of which have the fields Pattern and Well. The
field pattern will appear several times with a different corresponding
well. I need to compare each unique pattern well combination in table1
to see if the same unique combination exists in table2 and output a list
of the ones that have no match. I am at a loss of how to do this. Thanks
for ideas.

 

Chester Kaup

Engineering Technician

Kinder Morgan CO2 Company, LLP

Office (432) 688-3797

FAX (432) 688-3799

 

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From Jim.Hale at FleetPride.com  Wed Jun 22 10:00:34 2005
From: Jim.Hale at FleetPride.com (Hale, Jim)
Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2005 10:00:34 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Classes not recognized in mda
Message-ID: <6A6AA9DF57E4F046BDA1E273BDDB6772337691@corp-es01.fleetpride.com>

I have moved some classes and modules out of the front end into a code
library. I set the same references in the code library as in the front end.
In the front end I set a reference to the code library. The FE recognizes
the functions in the library modules fine, no problems but doesn't recognize
the classes (i.e. I get an error in the FE when I try to instantiate the
moved classes). The code ran fine when the classes resided in the front end.
I am obviously doing something simple wrong. Any suggestions? TIA
Jim Hale

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From bheid at appdevgrp.com  Wed Jun 22 10:02:02 2005
From: bheid at appdevgrp.com (Bobby Heid)
Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2005 11:02:02 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Open File Dialog Box Call Fails
In-Reply-To: <916187228923D311A6FE00A0CC3FAA30BED441@ADGSERVER>
Message-ID: <916187228923D311A6FE00A0CC3FAA30ABEC6A@ADGSERVER>

It could be either.

Bobby

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Rocky Smolin -
Beach Access Software
Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2005 10:44 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Open File Dialog Box Call Fails


Are you thinking Windows or Office service pack?

Rocky

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Bobby Heid" <bheid at appdevgrp.com>
To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'" 
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2005 7:39 AM
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Open File Dialog Box Call Fails


>I wonder if it is some sort of service pack that has hosed something?  
>Or  maybe he installed something that put a different version of 
>comdlg32.dll?
>
> Bobby
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Rocky 
> Smolin - Beach Access Software
> Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2005 10:26 AM
> To: AccessD at databaseadvisors.com; dba-tech
> Cc: Ben Saltzer
> Subject: [AccessD] Open File Dialog Box Call Fails
>
>
> Dear List:
>
> I have a client who's selling an app I wrote where I use the code from 
> the ADH to call the file open dialog box:
>
> Declare Function adh_apiGetOpenFileName Lib "comdlg32.dll" _  Alias 
> "GetOpenFileNameA" (ofn As tagOPENFILENAME) As Boolean
>
> I haven't worked on the app for several months and it's been very 
> stable until a couple of weeks ago when this call began to fail with 
> no error message.  Just didn't open the dialog box.  Then it failed on 
> another computer.  Then on another one.  Now no computer in his place 
> runs this api.
>
> I went over to his place and stepped through the code and sure enough 
> it goes to the api call and then goes right through the api call 
> without opening the dialog box.
>
> If we try to drop the common dialog control onto a form in design view
> from
> the additional tools list in the toolbox we get a message that says the 
> OLE
> server isn't registered.
>
> So I need to figure out
>
> 1) how to get the OLE server registered (unregistered first I suppose) 
> and see if that is somehow hosing the file open dialog box
> 2) figure out if there's a problem with comdlg32.dll
> 3) see if I can determine why this app suddenly went south so that it 
> doesn't happen at one of his customer sites.
>
> He's using Access 2000 SP-3 but also fails in AXP.  The app fails on 
> both W2K and WXP.  He's pretty careful about virus scanning.  I don't 
> think it is a virus even though it behaves like one.  Is it possible 
> that it got hosed by an automatic windows update?
>
> Any clue as to what's going on here would be greatly appreciated.
>
> MTIA,
>
> Rocky Smolin
> Beach Access Software
> http://www.e-z-mrp.com
> 858-259-4334



From bheid at appdevgrp.com  Wed Jun 22 10:06:24 2005
From: bheid at appdevgrp.com (Bobby Heid)
Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2005 11:06:24 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Open File Dialog Box Call Fails
In-Reply-To: <916187228923D311A6FE00A0CC3FAA30BED443@ADGSERVER>
Message-ID: <916187228923D311A6FE00A0CC3FAA30ABEC6B@ADGSERVER>

You might try sending him your version and have him back his dll (or full
system) up, unregister his version, copy yours to where his was, and
register it.  This is a big YMMV.

If his is different, you might could try the reverse on your system.  If it
worked, then recompile your app and then have him re-install.

If the different versions is what is causing the problem, then you have just
entered that infamous place lovingly called "DLL Hell."

I am just shooting in the dark here, but this is some of the stuff that I
would investigate.

Bobby

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Rocky Smolin -
Beach Access Software
Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2005 10:45 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Cc: Ben Saltzer
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Open File Dialog Box Call Fails


I suppose he could check the properties on his comdlg32.dll.  If it doesn't 
match the one I'm using (where the app still works) where could he find the 
old one?

TIA

Rocky

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Bobby Heid" <bheid at appdevgrp.com>
To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'" 
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2005 7:39 AM
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Open File Dialog Box Call Fails


>I wonder if it is some sort of service pack that has hosed something?  
>Or  maybe he installed something that put a different version of 
>comdlg32.dll?
>
> Bobby
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Rocky 
> Smolin - Beach Access Software
> Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2005 10:26 AM
> To: AccessD at databaseadvisors.com; dba-tech
> Cc: Ben Saltzer
> Subject: [AccessD] Open File Dialog Box Call Fails
>
>
> Dear List:
>
> I have a client who's selling an app I wrote where I use the code from 
> the ADH to call the file open dialog box:
>
> Declare Function adh_apiGetOpenFileName Lib "comdlg32.dll" _  Alias 
> "GetOpenFileNameA" (ofn As tagOPENFILENAME) As Boolean
>
> I haven't worked on the app for several months and it's been very 
> stable until a couple of weeks ago when this call began to fail with 
> no error message.  Just didn't open the dialog box.  Then it failed on 
> another computer.  Then on another one.  Now no computer in his place 
> runs this api.
>
> I went over to his place and stepped through the code and sure enough 
> it goes to the api call and then goes right through the api call 
> without opening the dialog box.
>
> If we try to drop the common dialog control onto a form in design view
> from
> the additional tools list in the toolbox we get a message that says the 
> OLE
> server isn't registered.
>
> So I need to figure out
>
> 1) how to get the OLE server registered (unregistered first I suppose) 
> and see if that is somehow hosing the file open dialog box
> 2) figure out if there's a problem with comdlg32.dll
> 3) see if I can determine why this app suddenly went south so that it 
> doesn't happen at one of his customer sites.
>
> He's using Access 2000 SP-3 but also fails in AXP.  The app fails on 
> both W2K and WXP.  He's pretty careful about virus scanning.  I don't 
> think it is a virus even though it behaves like one.  Is it possible 
> that it got hosed by an automatic windows update?
>
> Any clue as to what's going on here would be greatly appreciated.
>
> MTIA,
>
> Rocky Smolin
> Beach Access Software
> http://www.e-z-mrp.com
> 858-259-4334



From Jim.Hale at FleetPride.com  Wed Jun 22 10:11:01 2005
From: Jim.Hale at FleetPride.com (Hale, Jim)
Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2005 10:11:01 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Comparing tables question
Message-ID: <6A6AA9DF57E4F046BDA1E273BDDB6772337693@corp-es01.fleetpride.com>

You don't have to use the groupby queries. I mentioned them because they
show the two lists with one instance of each pattern/well combo. In fact, in
my query below I ignored them and wrote the query directly using the tables.
Sorry for the confusion.
Jim Hale

-----Original Message-----
From: Hale, Jim [mailto:Jim.Hale at fleetpride.com]
Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2005 9:50 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Comparing tables question


Try this:
1) Create a groupby query on the fields pattern and well for table one
2)Create a groupby query on the fields pattern and well for table two
3)use the unmatched query wizard to create the needed query
4) the only trick is, after the wizard has created the query, go into design
view and make the second outer join(the wizard only creates one join)
5) you will wnd up with something like this

SELECT Table1.Patterns, Table1.Wells
FROM Table1 LEFT JOIN Table2 ON (Table1.Wells = Table2.Wells) AND
(Table1.Patterns = Table2.Patterns)
WHERE (((Table2.Patterns) Is Null));

the resulting query produces a data set of pattern/well combos not found in
table 2. HTH
Jim Hale
-----Original Message-----
From: Kaup, Chester [mailto:Chester_Kaup at kindermorgan.com]
Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2005 9:05 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: [AccessD] Comparing tables question


I have two tables both of which have the fields Pattern and Well. The
field pattern will appear several times with a different corresponding
well. I need to compare each unique pattern well combination in table1
to see if the same unique combination exists in table2 and output a list
of the ones that have no match. I am at a loss of how to do this. Thanks
for ideas.

 

Chester Kaup

Engineering Technician

Kinder Morgan CO2 Company, LLP

Office (432) 688-3797

FAX (432) 688-3799

 

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From mmattys at rochester.rr.com  Wed Jun 22 10:15:08 2005
From: mmattys at rochester.rr.com (Michael R Mattys)
Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2005 11:15:08 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] invalid number of arguments
References: <30BC111F638EB54082001A7E7282FE41114D45@elmo.co.montgomery.ny.us>
	<007b01c57128$6c07acc0$fac581d5@pedro>
	<00ba01c571b1$155f3bc0$0202a8c0@default>
	<002001c57736$2e2e4210$fac581d5@pedro>
Message-ID: <032e01c5773d$2e85d3c0$0202a8c0@default>

Hi Pedro,

<Snip & Reformat>

- In this (commercial) database ... i can't change anything.
- don't want to ad each new client in two different databases.
- want to use the client table from the commercial database (clientID's
identical).
- clients [DEBSTM] can be linked to the "brick" database [tblDebiteur].

> I don't want to use a query from this linked table, to adjust the names
> because i then have to adjust al other query's and tables.
> Using the same names for the table and fields would be the best way.


> Pedro Janssen

Hi Pedro,

Nagging? :)

An append query to an autonumbered table would be best.
Leave in the text ClientID and use that as criteria in the query
to make sure there are no duplicates. Alias the fields desired.
You know macros have no error handling, right?

----

Michael R. Mattys
Mattys MapLib for Microsoft MapPoint
http://www.mattysconsulting.com



From cfoust at infostatsystems.com  Wed Jun 22 10:14:57 2005
From: cfoust at infostatsystems.com (Charlotte Foust)
Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2005 08:14:57 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Classes not recognized in mda
Message-ID: <E61FC1D4B1918244905B113C680BEA8689A45E@infoserver01.infostat.local>

It's a little tricky using classes in a code library because you have to
give them a public interface before they can be used elsewhere.  I don't
have an example on this machine, so I'm working from memory here, but as
I recall, I dimmed a public object variable as a new instance of the
class I wanted to expose.  That allowed the app linked to the library to
grab the public instance of the class and use its methods and
properties.    

Charlotte Foust


-----Original Message-----
From: Hale, Jim [mailto:Jim.Hale at fleetpride.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2005 8:01 AM
To: 'Accessd (E-mail)
Subject: [AccessD] Classes not recognized in mda


I have moved some classes and modules out of the front end into a code
library. I set the same references in the code library as in the front
end. In the front end I set a reference to the code library. The FE
recognizes the functions in the library modules fine, no problems but
doesn't recognize the classes (i.e. I get an error in the FE when I try
to instantiate the moved classes). The code ran fine when the classes
resided in the front end. I am obviously doing something simple wrong.
Any suggestions? TIA Jim Hale

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From Rich_Lavsa at pghcorning.com  Wed Jun 22 10:20:22 2005
From: Rich_Lavsa at pghcorning.com (Lavsa, Rich)
Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2005 11:20:22 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Pass Through Query vs SQL Stored Procedure
Message-ID: <2A261FF9D5EBCA46940C11688CE872EE01E969DD@goexchange2.pghcorning.com>

HELLO ALL,

Summary: Pass through query in Access using DSN (Oracle is faster then
Linked Server in SQL Server with procedure).


I currently have an application that pulls data from our ERP system
which is in Oracle 9i, Net8 client.  The current application has an
Access Front end (A2k2) and a SQL server back end.  What I have been
trying to do over the last 2 days is convert all PassThrough queries,
into stored procedures.  So far this has worked beautifully, and
eliminated a ton of code which I had developed to dynamically alter the
where clause and now only have to pass in a parameter for a stored
procedure.  

Anyway, I ran into a stumbling block.  The above approach helped in both
simplicity and speed for all information stored in SQL server.  However
the information stored in Oracle hasn't gone so easy.  I set up a linked
server, so that all authentication will come from the server and won't
have to worry about adding a new user, and having to make sure they have
access to the DNS.  Anyway, the current pass through query will run in
roughly 1-2 seconds.  When converted to a procedure to use the linked
server, it jumps up to 1 minute 47 seconds.  The fastest I could get it
down to is 1 minute 30 seconds.

Any tips/tricks/criticism welcome... 

Here are the basics of what I have tried...

======================================================================
ACCESS PASS THROUGH (1-2 seconds)
SELECT A.ORDER_NUMBER, A.ORDER_LINE_NUMBER, B.PART_CODE, B.PART_DESC_1,
c.UNIT_OF_MEASURE , c.ORDER_QUANTITY FROM fin_Prod.SALES_ORDER_LINES A,
fin_Prod.PRODUCT_MASTER B, fin_Prod.SALES_ORDER_LINE_QTYS C Where
(A.COMPANY_CODE = B.COMPANY_CODE) And (A.ORDER_LINE_NUMBER =
C.ORDER_LINE_NUMBER) AND (A.ORDER_NUMBER = C.ORDER_NUMBER) AND
(A.DIVISION = C.DIVISION) AND (A.COMPANY_CODE = C.COMPANY_CODE) AND
(A.PART_CODE = B.PART_CODE) AND (A.Unit_Sales = c.UNIT_OF_MEASURE)  And
A.ORDER_NUMBER = '310376' AND C.ORDER_NUMBER = '310376'

======================================================================

======================================================================
SQL Server Stored Procedure(1) sql(1min 47 seconds)
SELECT 
A.ORDER_NUMBER, A.ORDER_LINE_NUMBER, 
B.PART_CODE, B.PART_DESC_1, 
c.UNIT_OF_MEASURE , c.ORDER_QUANTITY 
FROM 
RENCS..FIN_PROD.SALES_ORDER_LINES A, 
RENCS..FIN_PROD.PRODUCT_MASTER B, 
RENCS..FIN_PROD.SALES_ORDER_LINE_QTYS C
Where 
A.ORDER_NUMBER = '310376' AND C.oRDER_NUMBER = '310376' AND 
(A.PART_CODE = B.PART_CODE) AND (A.COMPANY_CODE = B.COMPANY_CODE) And 
(A.ORDER_LINE_NUMBER = C.ORDER_LINE_NUMBER) AND 
(A.ORDER_NUMBER = C.ORDER_NUMBER) AND 
(A.DIVISION = C.DIVISION) AND 
(A.COMPANY_CODE = C.COMPANY_CODE) AND 
(A.Unit_Sales = c.UNIT_OF_MEASURE)
======================================================================

======================================================================
SQL Server Stored Procedure (2) sql (1min 30 seconds)


SELECT     A.ORDER_NUMBER, A.ORDER_LINE_NUMBER, B.PART_CODE,
B.PART_DESC_1, C.UNIT_OF_MEASURE, 
                      C.ORDER_QUANTITY
FROM         
OPENQUERY(RENCS, 'select ORDER_NUMBER, ORDER_LINE_NUMBER, COMPANY_CODE,
PART_CODE, 
DIVISION, Unit_Sales from fin_Prod.SALES_ORDER_LINES') A 

LEFT OUTER JOIN

OPENQUERY(RENCS,'select UNIT_OF_MEASURE, ORDER_QUANTITY, 
ORDER_LINE_NUMBER, ORDER_NUMBER, COMPANY_CODE, DIVISION from
fin_Prod.SALES_ORDER_LINE_QTYS') C
ON 
A.ORDER_NUMBER = C.ORDER_NUMBER AND A.ORDER_LINE_NUMBER =
C.ORDER_LINE_NUMBER AND 
A.COMPANY_CODE = C.COMPANY_CODE AND A.DIVISION = C.DIVISION AND 
A.UNIT_SALES = C.UNIT_OF_MEASURE 

LEFT OUTER JOIN

OPENQUERY(RENCS, 'select PART_CODE, PART_DESC_1,COMPANY_CODE from
fin_Prod.PRODUCT_MASTER') B 
ON 
A.COMPANY_CODE = B.COMPANY_CODE AND A.PART_CODE = B.PART_CODE

WHERE     (A.ORDER_NUMBER = '310376') and (c.ORDER_NUMBER = '310376')
======================================================================


Rich 


From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com  Wed Jun 22 10:22:24 2005
From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (John W. Colby)
Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2005 11:22:24 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Classes not recognized in mda
In-Reply-To: <6A6AA9DF57E4F046BDA1E273BDDB6772337691@corp-es01.fleetpride.com>
Message-ID: <006801c5773e$33f24400$6c7aa8c0@ColbyM6805>

Yes, you have to:

1) Export the classes to text files
2) Edit the text file to set two properties
3) Delete the original class in your lib.
4) Insert a new class
5) Insert the file into that class.  
6) Save the new class.

The top of an exported class will look something like:

VERSION 1.0 CLASS
BEGIN
  MultiUse = -1  'True
END
Attribute VB_Name = "clsSysVars"
Attribute VB_GlobalNameSpace = False
Attribute VB_Creatable = False
Attribute VB_PredeclaredId = False
Attribute VB_Exposed = False
Option Compare Database
Option Explicit

You need to change it to look like:

Attribute VB_Name = "clsSysVars"
Attribute VB_GlobalNameSpace = False
Attribute VB_Creatable = True
Attribute VB_PredeclaredId = False
Attribute VB_Exposed = True

Notice all the stuff I got rid of, and also notice that I changed two
properties from False to True.

That should take care of you.

John W. Colby
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Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2005 11:01 AM
To: 'Accessd (E-mail)
Subject: [AccessD] Classes not recognized in mda


I have moved some classes and modules out of the front end into a code
library. I set the same references in the code library as in the front end.
In the front end I set a reference to the code library. The FE recognizes
the functions in the library modules fine, no problems but doesn't recognize
the classes (i.e. I get an error in the FE when I try to instantiate the
moved classes). The code ran fine when the classes resided in the front end.
I am obviously doing something simple wrong. Any suggestions? TIA Jim Hale

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From DWUTKA at marlow.com  Wed Jun 22 10:20:54 2005
From: DWUTKA at marlow.com (DWUTKA at marlow.com)
Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2005 10:20:54 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Just Checking....
Message-ID: <123701F54509D9119A4F00D0B747349016D74D@main2.marlow.com>

Sheesh JC.....you really must be losing it with old age.... <grin>

What kind of statement is that?  Technically, no one could not use a naming
convention.  <grin>

Drew

-----Original Message-----
From: John W. Colby [mailto:jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com]
Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2005 6:08 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Just Checking....


Precisely so let's start one.  

Anyone who doesn't use a naming convention is a dolt.

;-)

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[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of DWUTKA at marlow.com
Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2005 5:46 PM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Just Checking....


Nope, just busy...and there hasn't been anything good to argue
about.......we normally just feed off what gets posted.  It's not our fault
the other listers aren't posting juicy stuff to dig into!

Drew

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From: dmcafee at pacbell.net [mailto:dmcafee at pacbell.net]
Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2005 2:11 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Just Checking....


JC & Drew must have gone on vacation or called a truce ;)

:P



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[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Jim Hewson
Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2005 11:39 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Just Checking....


I was thinking the same thing... 
I haven't received anything for about 24 hours!

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[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Bryan Carbonnell
Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2005 12:28 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: [AccessD] Just Checking....

Just checking to see if there is anyone out there or is AccessD down?

It's just too quite.

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From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com  Wed Jun 22 10:24:50 2005
From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (John W. Colby)
Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2005 11:24:50 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Classes not recognized in mda
In-Reply-To: <E61FC1D4B1918244905B113C680BEA8689A45E@infoserver01.infostat.local>
Message-ID: <006901c5773e$883b1be0$6c7aa8c0@ColbyM6805>

Hmm... This is the other way of doing it.  What Charlotte is saying is that
INSIDE of the library you can set a function that dims a new instance and
returns a pointer to the class.  The problem with doing this is that you
can't use intellisense to see the properties of the class etc. whereas using
the method I described, your classes become just another object and you can
use it just as you would any other object.

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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Charlotte Foust
Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2005 11:15 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Classes not recognized in mda


It's a little tricky using classes in a code library because you have to
give them a public interface before they can be used elsewhere.  I don't
have an example on this machine, so I'm working from memory here, but as I
recall, I dimmed a public object variable as a new instance of the class I
wanted to expose.  That allowed the app linked to the library to grab the
public instance of the class and use its methods and
properties.    

Charlotte Foust


-----Original Message-----
From: Hale, Jim [mailto:Jim.Hale at fleetpride.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2005 8:01 AM
To: 'Accessd (E-mail)
Subject: [AccessD] Classes not recognized in mda


I have moved some classes and modules out of the front end into a code
library. I set the same references in the code library as in the front end.
In the front end I set a reference to the code library. The FE recognizes
the functions in the library modules fine, no problems but doesn't recognize
the classes (i.e. I get an error in the FE when I try to instantiate the
moved classes). The code ran fine when the classes resided in the front end.
I am obviously doing something simple wrong. Any suggestions? TIA Jim Hale

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From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com  Wed Jun 22 10:27:12 2005
From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (John W. Colby)
Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2005 11:27:12 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Just Checking....
In-Reply-To: <123701F54509D9119A4F00D0B747349016D74D@main2.marlow.com>
Message-ID: <007001c5773e$dcdc4cf0$6c7aa8c0@ColbyM6805>

ROTFL.  Yea, I am getting old.

I am about to launch a field naming convention discussion so look out.  ;-)

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[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of DWUTKA at marlow.com
Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2005 11:21 AM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Just Checking....


Sheesh JC.....you really must be losing it with old age.... <grin>

What kind of statement is that?  Technically, no one could not use a naming
convention.  <grin>

Drew

-----Original Message-----
From: John W. Colby [mailto:jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com]
Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2005 6:08 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Just Checking....


Precisely so let's start one.  

Anyone who doesn't use a naming convention is a dolt.

;-)

John W. Colby
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[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of DWUTKA at marlow.com
Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2005 5:46 PM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Just Checking....


Nope, just busy...and there hasn't been anything good to argue
about.......we normally just feed off what gets posted.  It's not our fault
the other listers aren't posting juicy stuff to dig into!

Drew

-----Original Message-----
From: dmcafee at pacbell.net [mailto:dmcafee at pacbell.net]
Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2005 2:11 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Just Checking....


JC & Drew must have gone on vacation or called a truce ;)

:P



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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Jim Hewson
Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2005 11:39 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Just Checking....


I was thinking the same thing... 
I haven't received anything for about 24 hours!

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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Bryan Carbonnell
Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2005 12:28 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: [AccessD] Just Checking....

Just checking to see if there is anyone out there or is AccessD down?

It's just too quite.

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From Jim.Hale at FleetPride.com  Wed Jun 22 10:34:50 2005
From: Jim.Hale at FleetPride.com (Hale, Jim)
Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2005 10:34:50 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Classes not recognized in mda
Message-ID: <6A6AA9DF57E4F046BDA1E273BDDB6772337694@corp-es01.fleetpride.com>

Thanks. I'll give it a shot
Jim Hale

-----Original Message-----
From: John W. Colby [mailto:jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com]
Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2005 10:22 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Classes not recognized in mda


Yes, you have to:

1) Export the classes to text files
2) Edit the text file to set two properties
3) Delete the original class in your lib.
4) Insert a new class
5) Insert the file into that class.  
6) Save the new class.

The top of an exported class will look something like:

VERSION 1.0 CLASS
BEGIN
  MultiUse = -1  'True
END
Attribute VB_Name = "clsSysVars"
Attribute VB_GlobalNameSpace = False
Attribute VB_Creatable = False
Attribute VB_PredeclaredId = False
Attribute VB_Exposed = False
Option Compare Database
Option Explicit

You need to change it to look like:

Attribute VB_Name = "clsSysVars"
Attribute VB_GlobalNameSpace = False
Attribute VB_Creatable = True
Attribute VB_PredeclaredId = False
Attribute VB_Exposed = True

Notice all the stuff I got rid of, and also notice that I changed two
properties from False to True.

That should take care of you.

John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com 

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-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Hale, Jim
Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2005 11:01 AM
To: 'Accessd (E-mail)
Subject: [AccessD] Classes not recognized in mda


I have moved some classes and modules out of the front end into a code
library. I set the same references in the code library as in the front end.
In the front end I set a reference to the code library. The FE recognizes
the functions in the library modules fine, no problems but doesn't recognize
the classes (i.e. I get an error in the FE when I try to instantiate the
moved classes). The code ran fine when the classes resided in the front end.
I am obviously doing something simple wrong. Any suggestions? TIA Jim Hale

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From DWUTKA at marlow.com  Wed Jun 22 10:37:36 2005
From: DWUTKA at marlow.com (DWUTKA at marlow.com)
Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2005 10:37:36 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Just Checking....
Message-ID: <123701F54509D9119A4F00D0B747349016D74E@main2.marlow.com>

Okay, now you are really slipping JC...giving me warning?????  What's next,
you're pledge of unfaltering loyalty to the Unbounders?  ;)

Drew

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Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2005 10:27 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Just Checking....


ROTFL.  Yea, I am getting old.

I am about to launch a field naming convention discussion so look out.  ;-)

John W. Colby
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-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of DWUTKA at marlow.com
Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2005 11:21 AM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Just Checking....


Sheesh JC.....you really must be losing it with old age.... <grin>

What kind of statement is that?  Technically, no one could not use a naming
convention.  <grin>

Drew

-----Original Message-----
From: John W. Colby [mailto:jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com]
Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2005 6:08 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Just Checking....


Precisely so let's start one.  

Anyone who doesn't use a naming convention is a dolt.

;-)

John W. Colby
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-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of DWUTKA at marlow.com
Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2005 5:46 PM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Just Checking....


Nope, just busy...and there hasn't been anything good to argue
about.......we normally just feed off what gets posted.  It's not our fault
the other listers aren't posting juicy stuff to dig into!

Drew

-----Original Message-----
From: dmcafee at pacbell.net [mailto:dmcafee at pacbell.net]
Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2005 2:11 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Just Checking....


JC & Drew must have gone on vacation or called a truce ;)

:P



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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Jim Hewson
Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2005 11:39 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Just Checking....


I was thinking the same thing... 
I haven't received anything for about 24 hours!

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[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Bryan Carbonnell
Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2005 12:28 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: [AccessD] Just Checking....

Just checking to see if there is anyone out there or is AccessD down?

It's just too quite.

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From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com  Wed Jun 22 10:48:46 2005
From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (John W. Colby)
Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2005 11:48:46 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Just Checking....
In-Reply-To: <123701F54509D9119A4F00D0B747349016D74E@main2.marlow.com>
Message-ID: <007701c57741$e05bcf60$6c7aa8c0@ColbyM6805>

If I could figure out why unholy unbounders even exist...

;-)

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[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of DWUTKA at marlow.com
Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2005 11:38 AM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Just Checking....


Okay, now you are really slipping JC...giving me warning?????  What's next,
you're pledge of unfaltering loyalty to the Unbounders?  ;)

Drew

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From: John W. Colby [mailto:jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com]
Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2005 10:27 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Just Checking....


ROTFL.  Yea, I am getting old.

I am about to launch a field naming convention discussion so look out.  ;-)

John W. Colby
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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of DWUTKA at marlow.com
Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2005 11:21 AM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Just Checking....


Sheesh JC.....you really must be losing it with old age.... <grin>

What kind of statement is that?  Technically, no one could not use a naming
convention.  <grin>

Drew

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From: John W. Colby [mailto:jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com]
Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2005 6:08 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Just Checking....


Precisely so let's start one.  

Anyone who doesn't use a naming convention is a dolt.

;-)

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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of DWUTKA at marlow.com
Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2005 5:46 PM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Just Checking....


Nope, just busy...and there hasn't been anything good to argue
about.......we normally just feed off what gets posted.  It's not our fault
the other listers aren't posting juicy stuff to dig into!

Drew

-----Original Message-----
From: dmcafee at pacbell.net [mailto:dmcafee at pacbell.net]
Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2005 2:11 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Just Checking....


JC & Drew must have gone on vacation or called a truce ;)

:P



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[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Jim Hewson
Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2005 11:39 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Just Checking....


I was thinking the same thing... 
I haven't received anything for about 24 hours!

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Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2005 12:28 PM
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Subject: [AccessD] Just Checking....

Just checking to see if there is anyone out there or is AccessD down?

It's just too quite.

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From Jim.Hale at FleetPride.com  Wed Jun 22 10:58:39 2005
From: Jim.Hale at FleetPride.com (Hale, Jim)
Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2005 10:58:39 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Classes not recognized in mda
Message-ID: <6A6AA9DF57E4F046BDA1E273BDDB6772337695@corp-es01.fleetpride.com>

The new class doesn't like the Attribute keyword. Am I missing a reference
perhaps?
Jim Hale

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Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2005 10:22 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Classes not recognized in mda


Yes, you have to:

1) Export the classes to text files
2) Edit the text file to set two properties
3) Delete the original class in your lib.
4) Insert a new class
5) Insert the file into that class.  
6) Save the new class.

The top of an exported class will look something like:

VERSION 1.0 CLASS
BEGIN
  MultiUse = -1  'True
END
Attribute VB_Name = "clsSysVars"
Attribute VB_GlobalNameSpace = False
Attribute VB_Creatable = False
Attribute VB_PredeclaredId = False
Attribute VB_Exposed = False
Option Compare Database
Option Explicit

You need to change it to look like:

Attribute VB_Name = "clsSysVars"
Attribute VB_GlobalNameSpace = False
Attribute VB_Creatable = True
Attribute VB_PredeclaredId = False
Attribute VB_Exposed = True

Notice all the stuff I got rid of, and also notice that I changed two
properties from False to True.

That should take care of you.

John W. Colby
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Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2005 11:01 AM
To: 'Accessd (E-mail)
Subject: [AccessD] Classes not recognized in mda


I have moved some classes and modules out of the front end into a code
library. I set the same references in the code library as in the front end.
In the front end I set a reference to the code library. The FE recognizes
the functions in the library modules fine, no problems but doesn't recognize
the classes (i.e. I get an error in the FE when I try to instantiate the
moved classes). The code ran fine when the classes resided in the front end.
I am obviously doing something simple wrong. Any suggestions? TIA Jim Hale

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From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com  Wed Jun 22 11:07:44 2005
From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (John W. Colby)
Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2005 12:07:44 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Classes not recognized in mda
In-Reply-To: <6A6AA9DF57E4F046BDA1E273BDDB6772337695@corp-es01.fleetpride.com>
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Jim,

These things should not even be visible when you pull them back in.  You
MUST:

1) Delete the old class - make SURE you exported it first <grin>
2) INSERT a new (blank) class
3) INSERT the file into that class
4) SAVE the new class

When you do it this way you should not even be able to SEE the ATTRIBUTE
keyword.

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[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Hale, Jim
Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2005 11:59 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Classes not recognized in mda


The new class doesn't like the Attribute keyword. Am I missing a reference
perhaps? Jim Hale

-----Original Message-----
From: John W. Colby [mailto:jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com]
Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2005 10:22 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Classes not recognized in mda


Yes, you have to:

1) Export the classes to text files
2) Edit the text file to set two properties
3) Delete the original class in your lib.
4) Insert a new class
5) Insert the file into that class.  
6) Save the new class.

The top of an exported class will look something like:

VERSION 1.0 CLASS
BEGIN
  MultiUse = -1  'True
END
Attribute VB_Name = "clsSysVars"
Attribute VB_GlobalNameSpace = False
Attribute VB_Creatable = False
Attribute VB_PredeclaredId = False
Attribute VB_Exposed = False
Option Compare Database
Option Explicit

You need to change it to look like:

Attribute VB_Name = "clsSysVars"
Attribute VB_GlobalNameSpace = False
Attribute VB_Creatable = True
Attribute VB_PredeclaredId = False
Attribute VB_Exposed = True

Notice all the stuff I got rid of, and also notice that I changed two
properties from False to True.

That should take care of you.

John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com 

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Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2005 11:01 AM
To: 'Accessd (E-mail)
Subject: [AccessD] Classes not recognized in mda


I have moved some classes and modules out of the front end into a code
library. I set the same references in the code library as in the front end.
In the front end I set a reference to the code library. The FE recognizes
the functions in the library modules fine, no problems but doesn't recognize
the classes (i.e. I get an error in the FE when I try to instantiate the
moved classes). The code ran fine when the classes resided in the front end.
I am obviously doing something simple wrong. Any suggestions? TIA Jim Hale

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From cfoust at infostatsystems.com  Wed Jun 22 11:12:25 2005
From: cfoust at infostatsystems.com (Charlotte Foust)
Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2005 09:12:25 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Just Checking....
Message-ID: <E61FC1D4B1918244905B113C680BEA86873AB2@infoserver01.infostat.local>

OH NO!  Please don't, John!  I know you use one, but I OBJECT violently!

Charlotte Foust


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From: John W. Colby [mailto:jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2005 8:27 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Just Checking....


ROTFL.  Yea, I am getting old.

I am about to launch a field naming convention discussion so look out.
;-)

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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of
DWUTKA at marlow.com
Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2005 11:21 AM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Just Checking....


Sheesh JC.....you really must be losing it with old age.... <grin>

What kind of statement is that?  Technically, no one could not use a
naming convention.  <grin>

Drew

-----Original Message-----
From: John W. Colby [mailto:jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com]
Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2005 6:08 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Just Checking....


Precisely so let's start one.  

Anyone who doesn't use a naming convention is a dolt.

;-)

John W. Colby
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DWUTKA at marlow.com
Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2005 5:46 PM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Just Checking....


Nope, just busy...and there hasn't been anything good to argue
about.......we normally just feed off what gets posted.  It's not our
fault the other listers aren't posting juicy stuff to dig into!

Drew

-----Original Message-----
From: dmcafee at pacbell.net [mailto:dmcafee at pacbell.net]
Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2005 2:11 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Just Checking....


JC & Drew must have gone on vacation or called a truce ;)

:P



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[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Jim Hewson
Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2005 11:39 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Just Checking....


I was thinking the same thing... 
I haven't received anything for about 24 hours!

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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Bryan
Carbonnell
Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2005 12:28 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: [AccessD] Just Checking....

Just checking to see if there is anyone out there or is AccessD down?

It's just too quite.

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From cfoust at infostatsystems.com  Wed Jun 22 11:13:08 2005
From: cfoust at infostatsystems.com (Charlotte Foust)
Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2005 09:13:08 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Just Checking....
Message-ID: <E61FC1D4B1918244905B113C680BEA86873AB3@infoserver01.infostat.local>

To make your life interesting, John. <smirk>

Charlotte Foust


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From: John W. Colby [mailto:jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2005 8:49 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Just Checking....


If I could figure out why unholy unbounders even exist...

;-)

John W. Colby
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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
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DWUTKA at marlow.com
Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2005 11:38 AM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Just Checking....


Okay, now you are really slipping JC...giving me warning?????  What's
next, you're pledge of unfaltering loyalty to the Unbounders?  ;)

Drew

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From: John W. Colby [mailto:jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com]
Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2005 10:27 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Just Checking....


ROTFL.  Yea, I am getting old.

I am about to launch a field naming convention discussion so look out.
;-)

John W. Colby
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Contribute your unused CPU cycles to a good cause:
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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
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DWUTKA at marlow.com
Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2005 11:21 AM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Just Checking....


Sheesh JC.....you really must be losing it with old age.... <grin>

What kind of statement is that?  Technically, no one could not use a
naming convention.  <grin>

Drew

-----Original Message-----
From: John W. Colby [mailto:jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com]
Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2005 6:08 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Just Checking....


Precisely so let's start one.  

Anyone who doesn't use a naming convention is a dolt.

;-)

John W. Colby
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DWUTKA at marlow.com
Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2005 5:46 PM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Just Checking....


Nope, just busy...and there hasn't been anything good to argue
about.......we normally just feed off what gets posted.  It's not our
fault the other listers aren't posting juicy stuff to dig into!

Drew

-----Original Message-----
From: dmcafee at pacbell.net [mailto:dmcafee at pacbell.net]
Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2005 2:11 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Just Checking....


JC & Drew must have gone on vacation or called a truce ;)

:P



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[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Jim Hewson
Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2005 11:39 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Just Checking....


I was thinking the same thing... 
I haven't received anything for about 24 hours!

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[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Bryan
Carbonnell
Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2005 12:28 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: [AccessD] Just Checking....

Just checking to see if there is anyone out there or is AccessD down?

It's just too quite.

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From Lambert.Heenan at AIG.com  Wed Jun 22 11:14:57 2005
From: Lambert.Heenan at AIG.com (Heenan, Lambert)
Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2005 12:14:57 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Classes not recognized in mda
Message-ID: <1D7828CDB8350747AFE9D69E0E90DA1F11CD7202@xlivmbx21.aig.com>

In step 4 that John outlined you do *not* paste the complete text of the
class code into the new, empty class module. Rather, you open the new class
module, and then from the File menu select 'Insert File' (or is it the
Insert menu - I can't tell right now as my copy of Access 2002 is doing its
usual thing right now --- Taking several minutes to save a few lines of
code, which will result in me having YET ANOTHER CORRUPT FILE THAT I NEED TO
RESTORE FROM BACKUP!!!!! Every dammed day this happens to me grrrrr!!!!) ---

Lambert

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[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Hale, Jim
Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2005 11:59 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Classes not recognized in mda


The new class doesn't like the Attribute keyword. Am I missing a reference
perhaps? Jim Hale

-----Original Message-----
From: John W. Colby [mailto:jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com]
Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2005 10:22 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Classes not recognized in mda


Yes, you have to:

1) Export the classes to text files
2) Edit the text file to set two properties
3) Delete the original class in your lib.
4) Insert a new class
5) Insert the file into that class.  
6) Save the new class.

The top of an exported class will look something like:

VERSION 1.0 CLASS
BEGIN
  MultiUse = -1  'True
END
Attribute VB_Name = "clsSysVars"
Attribute VB_GlobalNameSpace = False
Attribute VB_Creatable = False
Attribute VB_PredeclaredId = False
Attribute VB_Exposed = False
Option Compare Database
Option Explicit

You need to change it to look like:

Attribute VB_Name = "clsSysVars"
Attribute VB_GlobalNameSpace = False
Attribute VB_Creatable = True
Attribute VB_PredeclaredId = False
Attribute VB_Exposed = True

Notice all the stuff I got rid of, and also notice that I changed two
properties from False to True.

That should take care of you.

John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com 

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[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Hale, Jim
Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2005 11:01 AM
To: 'Accessd (E-mail)
Subject: [AccessD] Classes not recognized in mda


I have moved some classes and modules out of the front end into a code
library. I set the same references in the code library as in the front end.
In the front end I set a reference to the code library. The FE recognizes
the functions in the library modules fine, no problems but doesn't recognize
the classes (i.e. I get an error in the FE when I try to instantiate the
moved classes). The code ran fine when the classes resided in the front end.
I am obviously doing something simple wrong. Any suggestions? TIA Jim Hale

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From DWUTKA at marlow.com  Wed Jun 22 11:15:23 2005
From: DWUTKA at marlow.com (DWUTKA at marlow.com)
Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2005 11:15:23 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Just Checking....
Message-ID: <123701F54509D9119A4F00D0B747349016D750@main2.marlow.com>

LOL! Okay, we're digressing....and not even kicking up much dirt....I think
we need to regroup! LOL

Drew

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If I could figure out why unholy unbounders even exist...

;-)

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Okay, now you are really slipping JC...giving me warning?????  What's next,
you're pledge of unfaltering loyalty to the Unbounders?  ;)

Drew

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ROTFL.  Yea, I am getting old.

I am about to launch a field naming convention discussion so look out.  ;-)

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Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2005 11:21 AM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
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Sheesh JC.....you really must be losing it with old age.... <grin>

What kind of statement is that?  Technically, no one could not use a naming
convention.  <grin>

Drew

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Precisely so let's start one.  

Anyone who doesn't use a naming convention is a dolt.

;-)

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Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2005 5:46 PM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
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Nope, just busy...and there hasn't been anything good to argue
about.......we normally just feed off what gets posted.  It's not our fault
the other listers aren't posting juicy stuff to dig into!

Drew

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From: dmcafee at pacbell.net [mailto:dmcafee at pacbell.net]
Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2005 2:11 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Just Checking....


JC & Drew must have gone on vacation or called a truce ;)

:P



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Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2005 11:39 AM
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I was thinking the same thing... 
I haven't received anything for about 24 hours!

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Just checking to see if there is anyone out there or is AccessD down?

It's just too quite.

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From Jdemarco at hudsonhealthplan.org  Wed Jun 22 11:32:35 2005
From: Jdemarco at hudsonhealthplan.org (Jim DeMarco)
Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2005 12:32:35 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] OT: Sharepoint Security (SOLVED)
Message-ID: <08F823FD83787D4BA0B99CA580AD3C74016C3A5F@TTNEXCHCL2.hshhp.com>

The culprit seemed to be that the user(s) in question were members of a Desktop Administrators group that was set up for us.  Removing that group from the Sharepoint server machine seems to have corrected the issue (further testing pending).

Thanks to all,

Jim DeMarco

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Well I just set up a non-IT staff member with Read access and that's all he could do (read).  When I removed him from the site he could not access it any longer.  So it looks like it may be using Windows Security to authenticate users.  Unfortunately I need to limit even our IT staff in various sections of the site so I've got to get a work around together.

I'll keep you posted.

Thanks,

Jim DeMarco

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Jim,
I'm a novice, but will become the SharePoint "Expert" when I change
jobs, in my company, next month.  I'm interested in the outcome of your
question.
A couple of random thoughts...
There are two levels of security for SharePoint.  They are Central
Administration and Site Administration rights.  Central take precedence
over site rights.  If a person is a member of the Central Administration
group which manages the settings for the Web Server and virtual servers,
they effectively have Administrative rights to the entire portal.
In Site Administration, IIRC, there is a toggle somewhere to designate a
person to have the same rights as the parent area or site.
Let me know if you have found the solution.
Regards,
Jim H.

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Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2005 8:04 AM
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Subject: [AccessD] OT: Sharepoint Security

List,

I've done some Googling but I can't seem to find the answer to this odd
problem.  I set up a Sharepoint site as a test bed (Sharepoint Services
not Server) and gave a few users access.  No matter what rights I give
the users they have full admin rights to the sight.  I set up custom
security groups and the site is completely ignoring them.  To further
add to the mystery I removed on user (she is not a member of any
security group therefore should not have access to the site) and she can
still get in with full admin rights.  Is it possible that Sharepoint is
deferring to Windows rights?  These are all IT staff here and have more
liberal rights to our network than the average user.

Does anyone have a clue?  A push in the right direction would be
appreciated.

TIA

Jim DeMarco
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From Jim.Hale at FleetPride.com  Wed Jun 22 11:32:22 2005
From: Jim.Hale at FleetPride.com (Hale, Jim)
Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2005 11:32:22 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Classes not recognized in mda
Message-ID: <6A6AA9DF57E4F046BDA1E273BDDB6772337696@corp-es01.fleetpride.com>

Got it! I was pasting instead of inserting. It works now, Muchas Gracias.
BTW I reviewed the "sacred" framework discussion emails and found your
detailed description of how to move classes to libraries. For anyone who
wants to search the archives it is (surprise) "Framework Discussion - Moving
to a library". How did you discover this stuff? It is not discussed anywhere
else that I've seen. 

Jim Hale


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Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2005 11:08 AM
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Jim,

These things should not even be visible when you pull them back in.  You
MUST:

1) Delete the old class - make SURE you exported it first <grin>
2) INSERT a new (blank) class
3) INSERT the file into that class
4) SAVE the new class

When you do it this way you should not even be able to SEE the ATTRIBUTE
keyword.

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Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2005 11:59 AM
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The new class doesn't like the Attribute keyword. Am I missing a reference
perhaps? Jim Hale

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Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2005 10:22 AM
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Subject: RE: [AccessD] Classes not recognized in mda


Yes, you have to:

1) Export the classes to text files
2) Edit the text file to set two properties
3) Delete the original class in your lib.
4) Insert a new class
5) Insert the file into that class.  
6) Save the new class.

The top of an exported class will look something like:

VERSION 1.0 CLASS
BEGIN
  MultiUse = -1  'True
END
Attribute VB_Name = "clsSysVars"
Attribute VB_GlobalNameSpace = False
Attribute VB_Creatable = False
Attribute VB_PredeclaredId = False
Attribute VB_Exposed = False
Option Compare Database
Option Explicit

You need to change it to look like:

Attribute VB_Name = "clsSysVars"
Attribute VB_GlobalNameSpace = False
Attribute VB_Creatable = True
Attribute VB_PredeclaredId = False
Attribute VB_Exposed = True

Notice all the stuff I got rid of, and also notice that I changed two
properties from False to True.

That should take care of you.

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Subject: [AccessD] Classes not recognized in mda


I have moved some classes and modules out of the front end into a code
library. I set the same references in the code library as in the front end.
In the front end I set a reference to the code library. The FE recognizes
the functions in the library modules fine, no problems but doesn't recognize
the classes (i.e. I get an error in the FE when I try to instantiate the
moved classes). The code ran fine when the classes resided in the front end.
I am obviously doing something simple wrong. Any suggestions? TIA Jim Hale

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From jmhecht at earthlink.net  Wed Jun 22 11:36:40 2005
From: jmhecht at earthlink.net (Joe Hecht)
Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2005 09:36:40 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Field Naming ( Just once I want to be ahead of JC )
Message-ID: <004c01c57748$91acf8b0$6401a8c0@laptop1>

When naming fields in table design view I try to prefix the field with
something to identify the source table i.e.:
 
Custfname
custLname
 
 
repfname
replname
 
Joe Hecht
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From accessd at shaw.ca  Wed Jun 22 11:40:16 2005
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2005 09:40:16 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] OT: Sharepoint Security (SOLVED)
In-Reply-To: <08F823FD83787D4BA0B99CA580AD3C74016C3A5F@TTNEXCHCL2.hshhp.com>
Message-ID: <0IIH00C93VMOBK@l-daemon>

Hi All:

Given that this question will seem simple and slightly ignorant... what is a
SharePoint Portal used for and what does it improve or replace.

Jim

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Subject: RE: [AccessD] OT: Sharepoint Security (SOLVED)

The culprit seemed to be that the user(s) in question were members of a
Desktop Administrators group that was set up for us.  Removing that group
from the Sharepoint server machine seems to have corrected the issue
(further testing pending).

Thanks to all,

Jim DeMarco

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[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Jim DeMarco
Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2005 10:30 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] OT: Sharepoint Security


Well I just set up a non-IT staff member with Read access and that's all he
could do (read).  When I removed him from the site he could not access it
any longer.  So it looks like it may be using Windows Security to
authenticate users.  Unfortunately I need to limit even our IT staff in
various sections of the site so I've got to get a work around together.

I'll keep you posted.

Thanks,

Jim DeMarco

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Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2005 10:08 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] OT: Sharepoint Security


Jim,
I'm a novice, but will become the SharePoint "Expert" when I change
jobs, in my company, next month.  I'm interested in the outcome of your
question.
A couple of random thoughts...
There are two levels of security for SharePoint.  They are Central
Administration and Site Administration rights.  Central take precedence
over site rights.  If a person is a member of the Central Administration
group which manages the settings for the Web Server and virtual servers,
they effectively have Administrative rights to the entire portal.
In Site Administration, IIRC, there is a toggle somewhere to designate a
person to have the same rights as the parent area or site.
Let me know if you have found the solution.
Regards,
Jim H.

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Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2005 8:04 AM
To: AccessD (E-mail)
Subject: [AccessD] OT: Sharepoint Security

List,

I've done some Googling but I can't seem to find the answer to this odd
problem.  I set up a Sharepoint site as a test bed (Sharepoint Services
not Server) and gave a few users access.  No matter what rights I give
the users they have full admin rights to the sight.  I set up custom
security groups and the site is completely ignoring them.  To further
add to the mystery I removed on user (she is not a member of any
security group therefore should not have access to the site) and she can
still get in with full admin rights.  Is it possible that Sharepoint is
deferring to Windows rights?  These are all IT staff here and have more
liberal rights to our network than the average user.

Does anyone have a clue?  A push in the right direction would be
appreciated.

TIA

Jim DeMarco
Director of Application Development
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From DWUTKA at marlow.com  Wed Jun 22 11:40:23 2005
From: DWUTKA at marlow.com (DWUTKA at marlow.com)
Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2005 11:40:23 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Field Naming ( Just once I want to be ahead of JC )
Message-ID: <123701F54509D9119A4F00D0B747349016D751@main2.marlow.com>

Not a bad idea.

Drew

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Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2005 11:37 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] Field Naming ( Just once I want to be ahead of JC )


When naming fields in table design view I try to prefix the field with
something to identify the source table i.e.:
 
Custfname
custLname
 
 
repfname
replname
 
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From MarkBoyd at McBeeAssociates.com  Wed Jun 22 11:59:05 2005
From: MarkBoyd at McBeeAssociates.com (Mark Boyd)
Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2005 12:59:05 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Detect specific printer
Message-ID: <974F830FE464C14E8652F95E24DA663C0BF9FF@mail03.Mcbassoc.com>

Is there a way thru VBA to detect if a specific printer has been
installed?
I need to check if the PDF Writer is on the user's machine.  If not,
they'll be prompted to install it.
 
Thanks,
Mark Boyd
I/S Supervisor
McBee Associates, Inc.
 
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From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com  Wed Jun 22 11:56:23 2005
From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (John W. Colby)
Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2005 12:56:23 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Field Naming ( Just once I want to be ahead of JC )
In-Reply-To: <004c01c57748$91acf8b0$6401a8c0@laptop1>
Message-ID: <008501c5774b$551bb960$6c7aa8c0@ColbyM6805>

Good job Joe, my point exactly.

I have seen (and in fact am currently working on) too many tables where the
PK is just called PK or ID or something silly like that.  In the case I am
working on are named something real (TherapyLocationID) but that same field
name is used in several different tables, both as the PK and the FK in the
child tables.

The problem becomes when you try to search on "where is this field used",
without a table prefix in the field name, you get hits from every table
where that field name is used.  I currently am trying to straighten out a
mess where one table has the field TherapyLocationID as a FK. And it needs
to be removed entirely.  The therapy location is NOT one to one, thus there
is now a table that says where the therapy occurs, but in order to find
it... Well... Let's just say there about 100 hits only about 20 of which
have anything to do with the field in the table I need to modify.  I have to
search through all 100 of these forms, reports, modules etc to visually look
at which table that object is referencing when it uses TherapyLocationID.

Can you say PITA?

If all tables had a table prefix, this would not be an issue.

I personally use the first two characters of the table name if the name is a
single word:

Tbl child = 

CH_ID
CH_Lname
CH_Fname

Etc

tblPeople = 

PE_ID
PE_Lname
PE_Fname

Etc.

I use the first letter of each word if the name consists of more than one
word.  

tblInvoiceLineItem - 
ILI_ID
ILI_IDIN	(the FK holding the PK of the INvoice table

Doing this ensures that if I search for PE_ID, I will get ONLY hits from the
PEople table.  If I search for any field with ILI_XXXX I will get only hits
for items referencing the InvoiceLineItem table.

Notice that I then name all FKS with YY_IDXXXX

ILI_IDIN for example

In essence I take the PK name (IN_ID), remove the underscore and reverse the
ID and name part (IDIN) and place it immediately after the underscore
(ILI_IDIN).  

Why do I do this?  Because I push all IDs to the top of the table and then
all FKs look like

YY_IDAAA
YY_IDBB
YY_IDCCCC
YY_IDEEE

Etc.

ALL fields with _IDXXXX are an FK.

Just some things to think about.

John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com 

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-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Joe Hecht
Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2005 12:37 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] Field Naming ( Just once I want to be ahead of JC )


When naming fields in table design view I try to prefix the field with
something to identify the source table i.e.:
 
Custfname
custLname
 
 
repfname
replname
 
Joe Hecht
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From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com  Wed Jun 22 11:57:24 2005
From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (John W. Colby)
Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2005 12:57:24 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Just Checking....
In-Reply-To: <E61FC1D4B1918244905B113C680BEA86873AB2@infoserver01.infostat.local>
Message-ID: <008601c5774b$766bdc80$6c7aa8c0@ColbyM6805>

GOOD, I rarely get to argue with you!

John W. Colby
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-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Charlotte Foust
Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2005 12:12 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Just Checking....


OH NO!  Please don't, John!  I know you use one, but I OBJECT violently!

Charlotte Foust


-----Original Message-----
From: John W. Colby [mailto:jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2005 8:27 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Just Checking....


ROTFL.  Yea, I am getting old.

I am about to launch a field naming convention discussion so look out.
;-)

John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com 

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-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of DWUTKA at marlow.com
Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2005 11:21 AM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Just Checking....


Sheesh JC.....you really must be losing it with old age.... <grin>

What kind of statement is that?  Technically, no one could not use a naming
convention.  <grin>

Drew

-----Original Message-----
From: John W. Colby [mailto:jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com]
Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2005 6:08 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Just Checking....


Precisely so let's start one.  

Anyone who doesn't use a naming convention is a dolt.

;-)

John W. Colby
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-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of DWUTKA at marlow.com
Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2005 5:46 PM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Just Checking....


Nope, just busy...and there hasn't been anything good to argue
about.......we normally just feed off what gets posted.  It's not our fault
the other listers aren't posting juicy stuff to dig into!

Drew

-----Original Message-----
From: dmcafee at pacbell.net [mailto:dmcafee at pacbell.net]
Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2005 2:11 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Just Checking....


JC & Drew must have gone on vacation or called a truce ;)

:P



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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Jim Hewson
Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2005 11:39 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Just Checking....


I was thinking the same thing... 
I haven't received anything for about 24 hours!

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Bryan Carbonnell
Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2005 12:28 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: [AccessD] Just Checking....

Just checking to see if there is anyone out there or is AccessD down?

It's just too quite.

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From cfoust at infostatsystems.com  Wed Jun 22 12:21:04 2005
From: cfoust at infostatsystems.com (Charlotte Foust)
Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2005 10:21:04 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Just Checking....
Message-ID: <E61FC1D4B1918244905B113C680BEA86873AB4@infoserver01.infostat.local>

Sorry to disappoint you, but I name my fields to indicate their table.
I just object to elaborate field naming schemes complete with
underscores, capitalized prefixes, etc., etc., etc.  If that makes for
an argument, we're all hard up for diversions.

Charlotte Foust


-----Original Message-----
From: John W. Colby [mailto:jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2005 9:57 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Just Checking....


GOOD, I rarely get to argue with you!

John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com 

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-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Charlotte
Foust
Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2005 12:12 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Just Checking....


OH NO!  Please don't, John!  I know you use one, but I OBJECT violently!

Charlotte Foust


-----Original Message-----
From: John W. Colby [mailto:jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2005 8:27 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Just Checking....


ROTFL.  Yea, I am getting old.

I am about to launch a field naming convention discussion so look out.
;-)

John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com 

Contribute your unused CPU cycles to a good cause:
http://folding.stanford.edu/

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of
DWUTKA at marlow.com
Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2005 11:21 AM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Just Checking....


Sheesh JC.....you really must be losing it with old age.... <grin>

What kind of statement is that?  Technically, no one could not use a
naming convention.  <grin>

Drew

-----Original Message-----
From: John W. Colby [mailto:jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com]
Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2005 6:08 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Just Checking....


Precisely so let's start one.  

Anyone who doesn't use a naming convention is a dolt.

;-)

John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com 

Contribute your unused CPU cycles to a good cause:
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-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of
DWUTKA at marlow.com
Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2005 5:46 PM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Just Checking....


Nope, just busy...and there hasn't been anything good to argue
about.......we normally just feed off what gets posted.  It's not our
fault the other listers aren't posting juicy stuff to dig into!

Drew

-----Original Message-----
From: dmcafee at pacbell.net [mailto:dmcafee at pacbell.net]
Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2005 2:11 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Just Checking....


JC & Drew must have gone on vacation or called a truce ;)

:P



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[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Jim Hewson
Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2005 11:39 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Just Checking....


I was thinking the same thing... 
I haven't received anything for about 24 hours!

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Bryan
Carbonnell
Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2005 12:28 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: [AccessD] Just Checking....

Just checking to see if there is anyone out there or is AccessD down?

It's just too quite.

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From fhtapia at gmail.com  Wed Jun 22 12:26:35 2005
From: fhtapia at gmail.com (Francisco Tapia)
Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2005 10:26:35 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Just Checking....
In-Reply-To: <007701c57741$e05bcf60$6c7aa8c0@ColbyM6805>
References: <123701F54509D9119A4F00D0B747349016D74E@main2.marlow.com>
	<007701c57741$e05bcf60$6c7aa8c0@ColbyM6805>
Message-ID: <b874372a05062210267315c069@mail.gmail.com>

to fix your db's that are BOUND to be a proble ;-)

<rd&h>

On 6/22/05, John W. Colby <jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com> wrote:
> If I could figure out why unholy unbounders even exist...
> 
> ;-)
> 
> John W. Colby
> www.ColbyConsulting.com
> 
> Contribute your unused CPU cycles to a good cause:
> http://folding.stanford.edu/
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of DWUTKA at marlow.com
> Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2005 11:38 AM
> To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
> Subject: RE: [AccessD] Just Checking....
> 
> 
> Okay, now you are really slipping JC...giving me warning?????  What's next,
> you're pledge of unfaltering loyalty to the Unbounders?  ;)
> 
> Drew
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: John W. Colby [mailto:jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2005 10:27 AM
> To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
> Subject: RE: [AccessD] Just Checking....
> 
> 
> ROTFL.  Yea, I am getting old.
> 
> I am about to launch a field naming convention discussion so look out.  ;-)
> 
> John W. Colby
> www.ColbyConsulting.com
> 
> Contribute your unused CPU cycles to a good cause:
> http://folding.stanford.edu/
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of DWUTKA at marlow.com
> Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2005 11:21 AM
> To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
> Subject: RE: [AccessD] Just Checking....
> 
> 
> Sheesh JC.....you really must be losing it with old age.... <grin>
> 
> What kind of statement is that?  Technically, no one could not use a naming
> convention.  <grin>
> 
> Drew
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: John W. Colby [mailto:jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2005 6:08 PM
> To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
> Subject: RE: [AccessD] Just Checking....
> 
> 
> Precisely so let's start one.
> 
> Anyone who doesn't use a naming convention is a dolt.
> 
> ;-)
> 
> John W. Colby
> www.ColbyConsulting.com
> 
> Contribute your unused CPU cycles to a good cause:
> http://folding.stanford.edu/
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of DWUTKA at marlow.com
> Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2005 5:46 PM
> To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
> Subject: RE: [AccessD] Just Checking....
> 
> 
> Nope, just busy...and there hasn't been anything good to argue
> about.......we normally just feed off what gets posted.  It's not our fault
> the other listers aren't posting juicy stuff to dig into!
> 
> Drew
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: dmcafee at pacbell.net [mailto:dmcafee at pacbell.net]
> Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2005 2:11 PM
> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> Subject: RE: [AccessD] Just Checking....
> 
> 
> JC & Drew must have gone on vacation or called a truce ;)
> 
> :P
> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Jim Hewson
> Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2005 11:39 AM
> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> Subject: RE: [AccessD] Just Checking....
> 
> 
> I was thinking the same thing...
> I haven't received anything for about 24 hours!
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Bryan Carbonnell
> Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2005 12:28 PM
> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> Subject: [AccessD] Just Checking....
> 
> Just checking to see if there is anyone out there or is AccessD down?
> 
> It's just too quite.
> 
> --
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From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com  Wed Jun 22 12:27:46 2005
From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (John W. Colby)
Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2005 13:27:46 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Just Checking....
In-Reply-To: <E61FC1D4B1918244905B113C680BEA86873AB4@infoserver01.infostat.local>
Message-ID: <008701c5774f$b46fe180$6c7aa8c0@ColbyM6805>

Well, as long as a field name is unique...

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-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Charlotte Foust
Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2005 1:21 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Just Checking....


Sorry to disappoint you, but I name my fields to indicate their table. I
just object to elaborate field naming schemes complete with underscores,
capitalized prefixes, etc., etc., etc.  If that makes for an argument, we're
all hard up for diversions.

Charlotte Foust


-----Original Message-----
From: John W. Colby [mailto:jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2005 9:57 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Just Checking....


GOOD, I rarely get to argue with you!

John W. Colby
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-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Charlotte Foust
Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2005 12:12 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Just Checking....


OH NO!  Please don't, John!  I know you use one, but I OBJECT violently!

Charlotte Foust


-----Original Message-----
From: John W. Colby [mailto:jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2005 8:27 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Just Checking....


ROTFL.  Yea, I am getting old.

I am about to launch a field naming convention discussion so look out.
;-)

John W. Colby
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-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of DWUTKA at marlow.com
Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2005 11:21 AM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Just Checking....


Sheesh JC.....you really must be losing it with old age.... <grin>

What kind of statement is that?  Technically, no one could not use a naming
convention.  <grin>

Drew

-----Original Message-----
From: John W. Colby [mailto:jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com]
Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2005 6:08 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Just Checking....


Precisely so let's start one.  

Anyone who doesn't use a naming convention is a dolt.

;-)

John W. Colby
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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
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Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2005 5:46 PM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Just Checking....


Nope, just busy...and there hasn't been anything good to argue
about.......we normally just feed off what gets posted.  It's not our fault
the other listers aren't posting juicy stuff to dig into!

Drew

-----Original Message-----
From: dmcafee at pacbell.net [mailto:dmcafee at pacbell.net]
Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2005 2:11 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Just Checking....


JC & Drew must have gone on vacation or called a truce ;)

:P



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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Jim Hewson
Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2005 11:39 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Just Checking....


I was thinking the same thing... 
I haven't received anything for about 24 hours!

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Bryan Carbonnell
Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2005 12:28 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: [AccessD] Just Checking....

Just checking to see if there is anyone out there or is AccessD down?

It's just too quite.

--
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From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com  Wed Jun 22 12:36:07 2005
From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (John W. Colby)
Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2005 13:36:07 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Classes not recognized in mda
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Message-ID: <008801c57750$df1324f0$6c7aa8c0@ColbyM6805>

We all stand on the shoulders of giants.  In my case the giants were Shamil
and a couple of the old timers of Access whom I don't know (weren't on our
list) but who did so much "back when".

The next step up from a library is a framework.  Let me know when you are
ready for that step.

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Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2005 12:32 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Classes not recognized in mda


Got it! I was pasting instead of inserting. It works now, Muchas Gracias.
BTW I reviewed the "sacred" framework discussion emails and found your
detailed description of how to move classes to libraries. For anyone who
wants to search the archives it is (surprise) "Framework Discussion - Moving
to a library". How did you discover this stuff? It is not discussed anywhere
else that I've seen. 

Jim Hale




From Jdemarco at hudsonhealthplan.org  Wed Jun 22 12:38:29 2005
From: Jdemarco at hudsonhealthplan.org (Jim DeMarco)
Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2005 13:38:29 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] OT: Sharepoint Security (SOLVED)
Message-ID: <08F823FD83787D4BA0B99CA580AD3C74016C3A66@TTNEXCHCL2.hshhp.com>

Here's a link to M$ for the answer: http://www.microsoft.com/windowsserver2003/technologies/sharepoint/default.mspx

In a nutshell it's a collaboration web site where teams can share documents in multiple libraries, share contacts, task lists, calendars and more.  It's easily customizable and a pretty cool tool IMHO.  You can set up your own user groups and customize access at every function level.  If you run Windows Server 2003 you have a copy of SP Services already.  The Portal version is the big brother and must be purchased.

HTH,

Jim DeMarco

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Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2005 12:40 PM
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Subject: RE: [AccessD] OT: Sharepoint Security (SOLVED)


Hi All:

Given that this question will seem simple and slightly ignorant... what is a
SharePoint Portal used for and what does it improve or replace.

Jim

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Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2005 9:33 AM
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Subject: RE: [AccessD] OT: Sharepoint Security (SOLVED)

The culprit seemed to be that the user(s) in question were members of a
Desktop Administrators group that was set up for us.  Removing that group
from the Sharepoint server machine seems to have corrected the issue
(further testing pending).

Thanks to all,

Jim DeMarco

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Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2005 10:30 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] OT: Sharepoint Security


Well I just set up a non-IT staff member with Read access and that's all he
could do (read).  When I removed him from the site he could not access it
any longer.  So it looks like it may be using Windows Security to
authenticate users.  Unfortunately I need to limit even our IT staff in
various sections of the site so I've got to get a work around together.

I'll keep you posted.

Thanks,

Jim DeMarco

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Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2005 10:08 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] OT: Sharepoint Security


Jim,
I'm a novice, but will become the SharePoint "Expert" when I change
jobs, in my company, next month.  I'm interested in the outcome of your
question.
A couple of random thoughts...
There are two levels of security for SharePoint.  They are Central
Administration and Site Administration rights.  Central take precedence
over site rights.  If a person is a member of the Central Administration
group which manages the settings for the Web Server and virtual servers,
they effectively have Administrative rights to the entire portal.
In Site Administration, IIRC, there is a toggle somewhere to designate a
person to have the same rights as the parent area or site.
Let me know if you have found the solution.
Regards,
Jim H.

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[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim DeMarco
Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2005 8:04 AM
To: AccessD (E-mail)
Subject: [AccessD] OT: Sharepoint Security

List,

I've done some Googling but I can't seem to find the answer to this odd
problem.  I set up a Sharepoint site as a test bed (Sharepoint Services
not Server) and gave a few users access.  No matter what rights I give
the users they have full admin rights to the sight.  I set up custom
security groups and the site is completely ignoring them.  To further
add to the mystery I removed on user (she is not a member of any
security group therefore should not have access to the site) and she can
still get in with full admin rights.  Is it possible that Sharepoint is
deferring to Windows rights?  These are all IT staff here and have more
liberal rights to our network than the average user.

Does anyone have a clue?  A push in the right direction would be
appreciated.

TIA

Jim DeMarco
Director of Application Development
Hudson Health Plan



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From bchacc at san.rr.com  Wed Jun 22 12:38:30 2005
From: bchacc at san.rr.com (Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software)
Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2005 10:38:30 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Open File Dialog Box Call Fails
References: <916187228923D311A6FE00A0CC3FAA30ABEC6B@ADGSERVER>
Message-ID: <017201c57751$34f142d0$6c01a8c0@HAL9004>

Bobby:

Thanks.  I'll forward mine to him and see what happens.

Rocky

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Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2005 8:06 AM
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Open File Dialog Box Call Fails


> You might try sending him your version and have him back his dll (or full
> system) up, unregister his version, copy yours to where his was, and
> register it.  This is a big YMMV.
>
> If his is different, you might could try the reverse on your system.  If 
> it
> worked, then recompile your app and then have him re-install.
>
> If the different versions is what is causing the problem, then you have 
> just
> entered that infamous place lovingly called "DLL Hell."
>
> I am just shooting in the dark here, but this is some of the stuff that I
> would investigate.
>
> Bobby
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Rocky Smolin -
> Beach Access Software
> Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2005 10:45 AM
> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> Cc: Ben Saltzer
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] Open File Dialog Box Call Fails
>
>
> I suppose he could check the properties on his comdlg32.dll.  If it 
> doesn't
> match the one I'm using (where the app still works) where could he find 
> the
> old one?
>
> TIA
>
> Rocky
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Bobby Heid" <bheid at appdevgrp.com>
> To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'"
> <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2005 7:39 AM
> Subject: RE: [AccessD] Open File Dialog Box Call Fails
>
>
>>I wonder if it is some sort of service pack that has hosed something?
>>Or  maybe he installed something that put a different version of
>>comdlg32.dll?
>>
>> Bobby
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Rocky
>> Smolin - Beach Access Software
>> Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2005 10:26 AM
>> To: AccessD at databaseadvisors.com; dba-tech
>> Cc: Ben Saltzer
>> Subject: [AccessD] Open File Dialog Box Call Fails
>>
>>
>> Dear List:
>>
>> I have a client who's selling an app I wrote where I use the code from
>> the ADH to call the file open dialog box:
>>
>> Declare Function adh_apiGetOpenFileName Lib "comdlg32.dll" _  Alias
>> "GetOpenFileNameA" (ofn As tagOPENFILENAME) As Boolean
>>
>> I haven't worked on the app for several months and it's been very
>> stable until a couple of weeks ago when this call began to fail with
>> no error message.  Just didn't open the dialog box.  Then it failed on
>> another computer.  Then on another one.  Now no computer in his place
>> runs this api.
>>
>> I went over to his place and stepped through the code and sure enough
>> it goes to the api call and then goes right through the api call
>> without opening the dialog box.
>>
>> If we try to drop the common dialog control onto a form in design view
>> from
>> the additional tools list in the toolbox we get a message that says the
>> OLE
>> server isn't registered.
>>
>> So I need to figure out
>>
>> 1) how to get the OLE server registered (unregistered first I suppose)
>> and see if that is somehow hosing the file open dialog box
>> 2) figure out if there's a problem with comdlg32.dll
>> 3) see if I can determine why this app suddenly went south so that it
>> doesn't happen at one of his customer sites.
>>
>> He's using Access 2000 SP-3 but also fails in AXP.  The app fails on
>> both W2K and WXP.  He's pretty careful about virus scanning.  I don't
>> think it is a virus even though it behaves like one.  Is it possible
>> that it got hosed by an automatic windows update?
>>
>> Any clue as to what's going on here would be greatly appreciated.
>>
>> MTIA,
>>
>> Rocky Smolin
>> Beach Access Software
>> http://www.e-z-mrp.com
>> 858-259-4334
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From mwp.reid at qub.ac.uk  Wed Jun 22 12:45:00 2005
From: mwp.reid at qub.ac.uk (Martin Reid)
Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2005 18:45:00 +0100
Subject: [AccessD] OT: Sharepoint Security (SOLVED)
References: <0IIH00C93VMOBK@l-daemon>
Message-ID: <002b01c57752$1d87f480$0100a8c0@Martin>

SPS provides the ability to search and index many WSS sites. It sites on top 
of WSS and allows you to pull them all together. Its a real cool tool for 
example full file store search, personal sites, auidences etc etc

I have sent you a presentation on the very topic I am giving on Friday LOL


Martin


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Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2005 5:40 PM
Subject: RE: [AccessD] OT: Sharepoint Security (SOLVED)


> Hi All:
>
> Given that this question will seem simple and slightly ignorant... what is 
> a
> SharePoint Portal used for and what does it improve or replace.
>
> Jim
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim DeMarco
> Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2005 9:33 AM
> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> Subject: RE: [AccessD] OT: Sharepoint Security (SOLVED)
>
> The culprit seemed to be that the user(s) in question were members of a
> Desktop Administrators group that was set up for us.  Removing that group
> from the Sharepoint server machine seems to have corrected the issue
> (further testing pending).
>
> Thanks to all,
>
> Jim DeMarco
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Jim DeMarco
> Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2005 10:30 AM
> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> Subject: RE: [AccessD] OT: Sharepoint Security
>
>
> Well I just set up a non-IT staff member with Read access and that's all 
> he
> could do (read).  When I removed him from the site he could not access it
> any longer.  So it looks like it may be using Windows Security to
> authenticate users.  Unfortunately I need to limit even our IT staff in
> various sections of the site so I've got to get a work around together.
>
> I'll keep you posted.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Jim DeMarco
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Jim Hewson
> Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2005 10:08 AM
> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> Subject: RE: [AccessD] OT: Sharepoint Security
>
>
> Jim,
> I'm a novice, but will become the SharePoint "Expert" when I change
> jobs, in my company, next month.  I'm interested in the outcome of your
> question.
> A couple of random thoughts...
> There are two levels of security for SharePoint.  They are Central
> Administration and Site Administration rights.  Central take precedence
> over site rights.  If a person is a member of the Central Administration
> group which manages the settings for the Web Server and virtual servers,
> they effectively have Administrative rights to the entire portal.
> In Site Administration, IIRC, there is a toggle somewhere to designate a
> person to have the same rights as the parent area or site.
> Let me know if you have found the solution.
> Regards,
> Jim H.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim DeMarco
> Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2005 8:04 AM
> To: AccessD (E-mail)
> Subject: [AccessD] OT: Sharepoint Security
>
> List,
>
> I've done some Googling but I can't seem to find the answer to this odd
> problem.  I set up a Sharepoint site as a test bed (Sharepoint Services
> not Server) and gave a few users access.  No matter what rights I give
> the users they have full admin rights to the sight.  I set up custom
> security groups and the site is completely ignoring them.  To further
> add to the mystery I removed on user (she is not a member of any
> security group therefore should not have access to the site) and she can
> still get in with full admin rights.  Is it possible that Sharepoint is
> deferring to Windows rights?  These are all IT staff here and have more
> liberal rights to our network than the average user.
>
> Does anyone have a clue?  A push in the right direction would be
> appreciated.
>
> TIA
>
> Jim DeMarco
> Director of Application Development
> Hudson Health Plan
>
>
>
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From cfoust at infostatsystems.com  Wed Jun 22 12:48:12 2005
From: cfoust at infostatsystems.com (Charlotte Foust)
Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2005 10:48:12 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Just Checking....
Message-ID: <E61FC1D4B1918244905B113C680BEA86873AB5@infoserver01.infostat.local>

I used to design in Vision (before Microsoft took the forward
engineering out of the Pro version :-<) and in the pre-MS versions,
field names had to be unique.  The exception was when you created a
relationships and it automatically inserted a foreign key into the child
table.  That wasn't unique because it wasn't considered another field,
simply a pointer to another table.  Anyhow, I got into the habit way
back.

Charlotte Foust


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Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2005 10:28 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Just Checking....


Well, as long as a field name is unique...

John W. Colby
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[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Charlotte
Foust
Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2005 1:21 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Just Checking....


Sorry to disappoint you, but I name my fields to indicate their table. I
just object to elaborate field naming schemes complete with underscores,
capitalized prefixes, etc., etc., etc.  If that makes for an argument,
we're all hard up for diversions.

Charlotte Foust


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From: John W. Colby [mailto:jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2005 9:57 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
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GOOD, I rarely get to argue with you!

John W. Colby
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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Charlotte
Foust
Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2005 12:12 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Just Checking....


OH NO!  Please don't, John!  I know you use one, but I OBJECT violently!

Charlotte Foust


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Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2005 8:27 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Just Checking....


ROTFL.  Yea, I am getting old.

I am about to launch a field naming convention discussion so look out.
;-)

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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of
DWUTKA at marlow.com
Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2005 11:21 AM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Just Checking....


Sheesh JC.....you really must be losing it with old age.... <grin>

What kind of statement is that?  Technically, no one could not use a
naming convention.  <grin>

Drew

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From: John W. Colby [mailto:jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com]
Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2005 6:08 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Just Checking....


Precisely so let's start one.  

Anyone who doesn't use a naming convention is a dolt.

;-)

John W. Colby
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-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of
DWUTKA at marlow.com
Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2005 5:46 PM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Just Checking....


Nope, just busy...and there hasn't been anything good to argue
about.......we normally just feed off what gets posted.  It's not our
fault the other listers aren't posting juicy stuff to dig into!

Drew

-----Original Message-----
From: dmcafee at pacbell.net [mailto:dmcafee at pacbell.net]
Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2005 2:11 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Just Checking....


JC & Drew must have gone on vacation or called a truce ;)

:P



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[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Jim Hewson
Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2005 11:39 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Just Checking....


I was thinking the same thing... 
I haven't received anything for about 24 hours!

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Carbonnell
Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2005 12:28 PM
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Subject: [AccessD] Just Checking....

Just checking to see if there is anyone out there or is AccessD down?

It's just too quite.

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From Jim.Hale at FleetPride.com  Wed Jun 22 12:49:58 2005
From: Jim.Hale at FleetPride.com (Hale, Jim)
Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2005 12:49:58 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Classes not recognized in mda
Message-ID: <6A6AA9DF57E4F046BDA1E273BDDB6772337698@corp-es01.fleetpride.com>

I've started reviewing the framework discussion. I'll raise my hand when I
get stuck, thanks
Jim Hale

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Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2005 12:36 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Classes not recognized in mda


We all stand on the shoulders of giants.  In my case the giants were Shamil
and a couple of the old timers of Access whom I don't know (weren't on our
list) but who did so much "back when".

The next step up from a library is a framework.  Let me know when you are
ready for that step.

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Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2005 12:32 PM
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Subject: RE: [AccessD] Classes not recognized in mda


Got it! I was pasting instead of inserting. It works now, Muchas Gracias.
BTW I reviewed the "sacred" framework discussion emails and found your
detailed description of how to move classes to libraries. For anyone who
wants to search the archives it is (surprise) "Framework Discussion - Moving
to a library". How did you discover this stuff? It is not discussed anywhere
else that I've seen. 

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From Jdemarco at hudsonhealthplan.org  Wed Jun 22 12:55:45 2005
From: Jdemarco at hudsonhealthplan.org (Jim DeMarco)
Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2005 13:55:45 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] OT: Sharepoint Security (SOLVED)
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True (SPS is the portal version for the uninitiated).  And I didn't even mention the cool hooks into Office 2003 where you can connect Access to DBs posted on a site or link Excel sheets for real time data updates.

JD

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SPS provides the ability to search and index many WSS sites. It sites on top 
of WSS and allows you to pull them all together. Its a real cool tool for example full file store search, personal sites, auidences etc etc

I have sent you a presentation on the very topic I am giving on Friday LOL


Martin


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Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2005 5:40 PM
Subject: RE: [AccessD] OT: Sharepoint Security (SOLVED)


> Hi All:
>
> Given that this question will seem simple and slightly ignorant... what is 
> a
> SharePoint Portal used for and what does it improve or replace.
>
> Jim
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim DeMarco
> Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2005 9:33 AM
> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> Subject: RE: [AccessD] OT: Sharepoint Security (SOLVED)
>
> The culprit seemed to be that the user(s) in question were members of a
> Desktop Administrators group that was set up for us.  Removing that group
> from the Sharepoint server machine seems to have corrected the issue
> (further testing pending).
>
> Thanks to all,
>
> Jim DeMarco
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Jim DeMarco
> Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2005 10:30 AM
> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> Subject: RE: [AccessD] OT: Sharepoint Security
>
>
> Well I just set up a non-IT staff member with Read access and that's all > he
> could do (read).  When I removed him from the site he could not access it
> any longer.  So it looks like it may be using Windows Security to
> authenticate users.  Unfortunately I need to limit even our IT staff in
> various sections of the site so I've got to get a work around together.
>
> I'll keep you posted.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Jim DeMarco
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Jim Hewson
> Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2005 10:08 AM
> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> Subject: RE: [AccessD] OT: Sharepoint Security
>
>
> Jim,
> I'm a novice, but will become the SharePoint "Expert" when I change
> jobs, in my company, next month.  I'm interested in the outcome of your
> question.
> A couple of random thoughts...
> There are two levels of security for SharePoint.  They are Central
> Administration and Site Administration rights.  Central take precedence
> over site rights.  If a person is a member of the Central Administration
> group which manages the settings for the Web Server and virtual servers,
> they effectively have Administrative rights to the entire portal.
> In Site Administration, IIRC, there is a toggle somewhere to designate a
> person to have the same rights as the parent area or site.
> Let me know if you have found the solution.
> Regards,
> Jim H.
>
> -----Original Message-----
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> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim DeMarco
> Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2005 8:04 AM
> To: AccessD (E-mail)
> Subject: [AccessD] OT: Sharepoint Security
>
> List,
>
> I've done some Googling but I can't seem to find the answer to this odd
> problem.  I set up a Sharepoint site as a test bed (Sharepoint Services
> not Server) and gave a few users access.  No matter what rights I give
> the users they have full admin rights to the sight.  I set up custom
> security groups and the site is completely ignoring them.  To further
> add to the mystery I removed on user (she is not a member of any
> security group therefore should not have access to the site) and she can
> still get in with full admin rights.  Is it possible that Sharepoint is
> deferring to Windows rights?  These are all IT staff here and have more
> liberal rights to our network than the average user.
>
> Does anyone have a clue?  A push in the right direction would be
> appreciated.
>
> TIA
>
> Jim DeMarco
> Director of Application Development
> Hudson Health Plan
>
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From JRojas at tnco-inc.com  Wed Jun 22 12:57:13 2005
From: JRojas at tnco-inc.com (Joe Rojas)
Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2005 13:57:13 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] OT: Sharepoint Security (SOLVED)
Message-ID: <0CC84C9461AE6445AD5A602001C41C4B05A374@mercury.tnco-inc.com>

Hi Martin,

Could you please send me a copy of that presentation also?
SPS/WSS looks very nice but I am having a hard time understanding the
differences between WSS and SPS.

Thanks!
JR
jrojas at tnco-inc.com

-----Original Message-----
From: Martin Reid [mailto:mwp.reid at qub.ac.uk]
Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2005 1:45 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] OT: Sharepoint Security (SOLVED)

SPS provides the ability to search and index many WSS sites. It sites on top
of WSS and allows you to pull them all together. Its a real cool tool for
example full file store search, personal sites, auidences etc etc

I have sent you a presentation on the very topic I am giving on Friday LOL


Martin


----- Original Message -----
From: "Jim Lawrence" <accessd at shaw.ca>
To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'"
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2005 5:40 PM
Subject: RE: [AccessD] OT: Sharepoint Security (SOLVED)


> Hi All:
>
> Given that this question will seem simple and slightly ignorant... what is
> a
> SharePoint Portal used for and what does it improve or replace.
>
> Jim
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim DeMarco
> Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2005 9:33 AM
> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> Subject: RE: [AccessD] OT: Sharepoint Security (SOLVED)
>
> The culprit seemed to be that the user(s) in question were members of a
> Desktop Administrators group that was set up for us.  Removing that group
> from the Sharepoint server machine seems to have corrected the issue
> (further testing pending).
>
> Thanks to all,
>
> Jim DeMarco
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Jim DeMarco
> Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2005 10:30 AM
> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> Subject: RE: [AccessD] OT: Sharepoint Security
>
>
> Well I just set up a non-IT staff member with Read access and that's all
> he
> could do (read).  When I removed him from the site he could not access it
> any longer.  So it looks like it may be using Windows Security to
> authenticate users.  Unfortunately I need to limit even our IT staff in
> various sections of the site so I've got to get a work around together.
>
> I'll keep you posted.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Jim DeMarco
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Jim Hewson
> Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2005 10:08 AM
> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> Subject: RE: [AccessD] OT: Sharepoint Security
>
>
> Jim,
> I'm a novice, but will become the SharePoint "Expert" when I change
> jobs, in my company, next month.  I'm interested in the outcome of your
> question.
> A couple of random thoughts...
> There are two levels of security for SharePoint.  They are Central
> Administration and Site Administration rights.  Central take precedence
> over site rights.  If a person is a member of the Central Administration
> group which manages the settings for the Web Server and virtual servers,
> they effectively have Administrative rights to the entire portal.
> In Site Administration, IIRC, there is a toggle somewhere to designate a
> person to have the same rights as the parent area or site.
> Let me know if you have found the solution.
> Regards,
> Jim H.
>
> -----Original Message-----
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> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim DeMarco
> Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2005 8:04 AM
> To: AccessD (E-mail)
> Subject: [AccessD] OT: Sharepoint Security
>
> List,
>
> I've done some Googling but I can't seem to find the answer to this odd
> problem.  I set up a Sharepoint site as a test bed (Sharepoint Services
> not Server) and gave a few users access.  No matter what rights I give
> the users they have full admin rights to the sight.  I set up custom
> security groups and the site is completely ignoring them.  To further
> add to the mystery I removed on user (she is not a member of any
> security group therefore should not have access to the site) and she can
> still get in with full admin rights.  Is it possible that Sharepoint is
> deferring to Windows rights?  These are all IT staff here and have more
> liberal rights to our network than the average user.
>
> Does anyone have a clue?  A push in the right direction would be
> appreciated.
>
> TIA
>
> Jim DeMarco
> Director of Application Development
> Hudson Health Plan
>
>
>
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From jmhecht at earthlink.net  Wed Jun 22 13:00:39 2005
From: jmhecht at earthlink.net (Joe Hecht)
Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2005 11:00:39 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Good Code Bad Code Question
Message-ID: <000001c57754$4d4e6a30$6401a8c0@laptop1>

The following line of code works correctly
 
Me.txtCost.Value = Me.cboPartNum.Column(2)
 
 
When I try to compile the code I get an error message that .cboPartNum    
 
Method or Data member not found.  Any Idea what is up?
 
Option Explicit is set
 
Thanks
 
 
Joe Hecht
Los Angeles CA
 


From mwp.reid at qub.ac.uk  Wed Jun 22 13:01:18 2005
From: mwp.reid at qub.ac.uk (Martin Reid)
Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2005 19:01:18 +0100
Subject: [AccessD] OT: Sharepoint Security (SOLVED)
References: <08F823FD83787D4BA0B99CA580AD3C74016C3A67@TTNEXCHCL2.hshhp.com>
Message-ID: <011401c57754$64dd7380$0100a8c0@Martin>

Hi Jim

I did a paper for Microsoft on this last year.

http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/default.asp?url=/library/en-us/odc_fp2003_ta/html/odc_FP_whatsnew2003.asp

http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/default.asp?url=/library/en-us/odc_fp2003_ta/html/odc_FP_whatsnew2003.asp


May be interesting


Martin




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To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving" 
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2005 6:55 PM
Subject: RE: [AccessD] OT: Sharepoint Security (SOLVED)


> True (SPS is the portal version for the uninitiated).  And I didn't even 
> mention the cool hooks into Office 2003 where you can connect Access to 
> DBs posted on a site or link Excel sheets for real time data updates.
>
> JD
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Martin Reid
> Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2005 1:45 PM
> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] OT: Sharepoint Security (SOLVED)
>
>
> SPS provides the ability to search and index many WSS sites. It sites on 
> top
> of WSS and allows you to pull them all together. Its a real cool tool for 
> example full file store search, personal sites, auidences etc etc
>
> I have sent you a presentation on the very topic I am giving on Friday LOL
>
>
> Martin
>
>
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> To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'"
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> Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2005 5:40 PM
> Subject: RE: [AccessD] OT: Sharepoint Security (SOLVED)
>
>
>> Hi All:
>>
>> Given that this question will seem simple and slightly ignorant... what 
>> is
>> a
>> SharePoint Portal used for and what does it improve or replace.
>>
>> Jim
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim DeMarco
>> Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2005 9:33 AM
>> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
>> Subject: RE: [AccessD] OT: Sharepoint Security (SOLVED)
>>
>> The culprit seemed to be that the user(s) in question were members of a
>> Desktop Administrators group that was set up for us.  Removing that group
>> from the Sharepoint server machine seems to have corrected the issue
>> (further testing pending).
>>
>> Thanks to all,
>>
>> Jim DeMarco
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Jim DeMarco
>> Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2005 10:30 AM
>> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
>> Subject: RE: [AccessD] OT: Sharepoint Security
>>
>>
>> Well I just set up a non-IT staff member with Read access and that's all 
>>  > he
>> could do (read).  When I removed him from the site he could not access it
>> any longer.  So it looks like it may be using Windows Security to
>> authenticate users.  Unfortunately I need to limit even our IT staff in
>> various sections of the site so I've got to get a work around together.
>>
>> I'll keep you posted.
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Jim DeMarco
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Jim Hewson
>> Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2005 10:08 AM
>> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
>> Subject: RE: [AccessD] OT: Sharepoint Security
>>
>>
>> Jim,
>> I'm a novice, but will become the SharePoint "Expert" when I change
>> jobs, in my company, next month.  I'm interested in the outcome of your
>> question.
>> A couple of random thoughts...
>> There are two levels of security for SharePoint.  They are Central
>> Administration and Site Administration rights.  Central take precedence
>> over site rights.  If a person is a member of the Central Administration
>> group which manages the settings for the Web Server and virtual servers,
>> they effectively have Administrative rights to the entire portal.
>> In Site Administration, IIRC, there is a toggle somewhere to designate a
>> person to have the same rights as the parent area or site.
>> Let me know if you have found the solution.
>> Regards,
>> Jim H.
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim DeMarco
>> Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2005 8:04 AM
>> To: AccessD (E-mail)
>> Subject: [AccessD] OT: Sharepoint Security
>>
>> List,
>>
>> I've done some Googling but I can't seem to find the answer to this odd
>> problem.  I set up a Sharepoint site as a test bed (Sharepoint Services
>> not Server) and gave a few users access.  No matter what rights I give
>> the users they have full admin rights to the sight.  I set up custom
>> security groups and the site is completely ignoring them.  To further
>> add to the mystery I removed on user (she is not a member of any
>> security group therefore should not have access to the site) and she can
>> still get in with full admin rights.  Is it possible that Sharepoint is
>> deferring to Windows rights?  These are all IT staff here and have more
>> liberal rights to our network than the average user.
>>
>> Does anyone have a clue?  A push in the right direction would be
>> appreciated.
>>
>> TIA
>>
>> Jim DeMarco
>> Director of Application Development
>> Hudson Health Plan
>>
>>
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From cfoust at infostatsystems.com  Wed Jun 22 13:03:35 2005
From: cfoust at infostatsystems.com (Charlotte Foust)
Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2005 11:03:35 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Just Checking....
Message-ID: <E61FC1D4B1918244905B113C680BEA86873AB6@infoserver01.infostat.local>

Oops!  Make that Visio (no N on the end).  Blame the muscle relaxants
for back spasms, please. <g>

Charlotte Foust


-----Original Message-----
From: Charlotte Foust 
Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2005 10:48 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Just Checking....


I used to design in Vision (before Microsoft took the forward
engineering out of the Pro version :-<) and in the pre-MS versions,
field names had to be unique.  The exception was when you created a
relationships and it automatically inserted a foreign key into the child
table.  That wasn't unique because it wasn't considered another field,
simply a pointer to another table.  Anyhow, I got into the habit way
back.

Charlotte Foust


-----Original Message-----
From: John W. Colby [mailto:jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2005 10:28 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Just Checking....


Well, as long as a field name is unique...

John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com 

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-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Charlotte
Foust
Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2005 1:21 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Just Checking....


Sorry to disappoint you, but I name my fields to indicate their table. I
just object to elaborate field naming schemes complete with underscores,
capitalized prefixes, etc., etc., etc.  If that makes for an argument,
we're all hard up for diversions.

Charlotte Foust


-----Original Message-----
From: John W. Colby [mailto:jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2005 9:57 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Just Checking....


GOOD, I rarely get to argue with you!

John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com 

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-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Charlotte
Foust
Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2005 12:12 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Just Checking....


OH NO!  Please don't, John!  I know you use one, but I OBJECT violently!

Charlotte Foust


-----Original Message-----
From: John W. Colby [mailto:jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2005 8:27 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Just Checking....


ROTFL.  Yea, I am getting old.

I am about to launch a field naming convention discussion so look out.
;-)

John W. Colby
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-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of
DWUTKA at marlow.com
Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2005 11:21 AM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Just Checking....


Sheesh JC.....you really must be losing it with old age.... <grin>

What kind of statement is that?  Technically, no one could not use a
naming convention.  <grin>

Drew

-----Original Message-----
From: John W. Colby [mailto:jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com]
Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2005 6:08 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Just Checking....


Precisely so let's start one.  

Anyone who doesn't use a naming convention is a dolt.

;-)

John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com 

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-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of
DWUTKA at marlow.com
Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2005 5:46 PM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Just Checking....


Nope, just busy...and there hasn't been anything good to argue
about.......we normally just feed off what gets posted.  It's not our
fault the other listers aren't posting juicy stuff to dig into!

Drew

-----Original Message-----
From: dmcafee at pacbell.net [mailto:dmcafee at pacbell.net]
Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2005 2:11 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Just Checking....


JC & Drew must have gone on vacation or called a truce ;)

:P



-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Jim Hewson
Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2005 11:39 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Just Checking....


I was thinking the same thing... 
I haven't received anything for about 24 hours!

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Bryan
Carbonnell
Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2005 12:28 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: [AccessD] Just Checking....

Just checking to see if there is anyone out there or is AccessD down?

It's just too quite.

--
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From jmhecht at earthlink.net  Wed Jun 22 13:04:29 2005
From: jmhecht at earthlink.net (Joe Hecht)
Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2005 11:04:29 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Field Naming ( Just once I want to be ahead of JC )
In-Reply-To: <008501c5774b$551bb960$6c7aa8c0@ColbyM6805>
Message-ID: <001101c57754$d64a29f0$6401a8c0@laptop1>

My day is made.

My work is blessed by John.

Joe Hecht
Los Angeles CA

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of John W. Colby
Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2005 9:56 AM
To: access at joe2.endjunk.com; 'Access Developers discussion and problem
solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Field Naming ( Just once I want to be ahead of JC )

Good job Joe, my point exactly.





From Jdemarco at hudsonhealthplan.org  Wed Jun 22 13:05:56 2005
From: Jdemarco at hudsonhealthplan.org (Jim DeMarco)
Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2005 14:05:56 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] OT: Sharepoint Security (SOLVED)
Message-ID: <08F823FD83787D4BA0B99CA580AD3C74016C3A68@TTNEXCHCL2.hshhp.com>

Very nice.  Thanks.

Jim

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Martin Reid
Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2005 2:01 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] OT: Sharepoint Security (SOLVED)


Hi Jim

I did a paper for Microsoft on this last year.

http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/default.asp?url=/library/en-us/odc_fp2003_ta/html/odc_FP_whatsnew2003.asp

http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/default.asp?url=/library/en-us/odc_fp2003_ta/html/odc_FP_whatsnew2003.asp


May be interesting


Martin




----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Jim DeMarco" <Jdemarco at hudsonhealthplan.org>
To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving" 
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2005 6:55 PM
Subject: RE: [AccessD] OT: Sharepoint Security (SOLVED)


> True (SPS is the portal version for the uninitiated).  And I didn't even > mention the cool hooks into Office 2003 where you can connect Access to > DBs posted on a site or link Excel sheets for real time data updates.
>
> JD
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Martin Reid
> Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2005 1:45 PM
> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] OT: Sharepoint Security (SOLVED)
>
>
> SPS provides the ability to search and index many WSS sites. It sites on > top
> of WSS and allows you to pull them all together. Its a real cool tool for > example full file store search, personal sites, auidences etc etc
>
> I have sent you a presentation on the very topic I am giving on Friday LOL
>
>
> Martin
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Jim Lawrence" <accessd at shaw.ca>
> To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'"
> <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2005 5:40 PM
> Subject: RE: [AccessD] OT: Sharepoint Security (SOLVED)
>
>
>> Hi All:
>>
>> Given that this question will seem simple and slightly ignorant... what >> is
>> a
>> SharePoint Portal used for and what does it improve or replace.
>>
>> Jim
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim DeMarco
>> Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2005 9:33 AM
>> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
>> Subject: RE: [AccessD] OT: Sharepoint Security (SOLVED)
>>
>> The culprit seemed to be that the user(s) in question were members of a
>> Desktop Administrators group that was set up for us.  Removing that group
>> from the Sharepoint server machine seems to have corrected the issue
>> (further testing pending).
>>
>> Thanks to all,
>>
>> Jim DeMarco
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Jim DeMarco
>> Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2005 10:30 AM
>> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
>> Subject: RE: [AccessD] OT: Sharepoint Security
>>
>>
>> Well I just set up a non-IT staff member with Read access and that's all >>  > he
>> could do (read).  When I removed him from the site he could not access it
>> any longer.  So it looks like it may be using Windows Security to
>> authenticate users.  Unfortunately I need to limit even our IT staff in
>> various sections of the site so I've got to get a work around together.
>>
>> I'll keep you posted.
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Jim DeMarco
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Jim Hewson
>> Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2005 10:08 AM
>> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
>> Subject: RE: [AccessD] OT: Sharepoint Security
>>
>>
>> Jim,
>> I'm a novice, but will become the SharePoint "Expert" when I change
>> jobs, in my company, next month.  I'm interested in the outcome of your
>> question.
>> A couple of random thoughts...
>> There are two levels of security for SharePoint.  They are Central
>> Administration and Site Administration rights.  Central take precedence
>> over site rights.  If a person is a member of the Central Administration
>> group which manages the settings for the Web Server and virtual servers,
>> they effectively have Administrative rights to the entire portal.
>> In Site Administration, IIRC, there is a toggle somewhere to designate a
>> person to have the same rights as the parent area or site.
>> Let me know if you have found the solution.
>> Regards,
>> Jim H.
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim DeMarco
>> Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2005 8:04 AM
>> To: AccessD (E-mail)
>> Subject: [AccessD] OT: Sharepoint Security
>>
>> List,
>>
>> I've done some Googling but I can't seem to find the answer to this odd
>> problem.  I set up a Sharepoint site as a test bed (Sharepoint Services
>> not Server) and gave a few users access.  No matter what rights I give
>> the users they have full admin rights to the sight.  I set up custom
>> security groups and the site is completely ignoring them.  To further
>> add to the mystery I removed on user (she is not a member of any
>> security group therefore should not have access to the site) and she can
>> still get in with full admin rights.  Is it possible that Sharepoint is
>> deferring to Windows rights?  These are all IT staff here and have more
>> liberal rights to our network than the average user.
>>
>> Does anyone have a clue?  A push in the right direction would be
>> appreciated.
>>
>> TIA
>>
>> Jim DeMarco
>> Director of Application Development
>> Hudson Health Plan
>>
>>
>>
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From jmhecht at earthlink.net  Wed Jun 22 13:10:49 2005
From: jmhecht at earthlink.net (Joe Hecht)
Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2005 11:10:49 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Field Naming ( Just once I want to be ahead of JC )
In-Reply-To: <123701F54509D9119A4F00D0B747349016D751@main2.marlow.com>
Message-ID: <001201c57755$b8d6d660$6401a8c0@laptop1>

My gosh, I had an idea that drew liked too.

Joe Hecht
Los Angeles CA

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of DWUTKA at marlow.com
 Subject: RE: [AccessD] Field Naming ( Just once I want to be ahead of JC )

Not a bad idea.

Drew

-----Original Message-----
From: Joe Hecht [mailto:jmhecht at earthlink.net]
Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2005 11:37 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] Field Naming ( Just once I want to be ahead of JC )


When naming fields in table design view I try to prefix the field with
something to identify the source table i.e.:
 
Custfname
custLname
 
 
repfname
replname
 
Joe Hecht
Los Angeles CA
 
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From newsgrps at dalyn.co.nz  Wed Jun 22 13:15:04 2005
From: newsgrps at dalyn.co.nz (David Emerson)
Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2005 06:15:04 +1200
Subject: [AccessD] Linking Graph to Report
In-Reply-To: <6.2.1.2.0.20050622131317.031142c0@mail.dalyn.co.nz>
References: <6.2.1.2.0.20050622131317.031142c0@mail.dalyn.co.nz>
Message-ID: <6.2.1.2.0.20050623061343.03205eb0@mail.dalyn.co.nz>

Following up on yesterday's question, I know that there was a bug with A97 
and linked charts but I am not aware of it still being an issue with AXP.

David

At 22/06/2005, you wrote:
>Access XP adp, SQL2000.
>
>I have a report with a graph on it.  The graph is to show the number of 
>days it took to process client information.  Each month should have its 
>own graph on a separate page.  The reports source is a stored procedure 
>which provides the months as an integer in the form yyyymm.
>
>SELECT ttmpPlanTrackGraph.ConsultPlanFranchise, ttmpPlanTrackGraph.YrMth
>FROM ttmpPlanTrackGraph
>GROUP BY ttmpPlanTrackGraph.ConsultPlanFranchise, ttmpPlanTrackGraph.YrMth
>
>The graphs source is also a stored procedure which includes a field with 
>the month in the same format.
>
>SELECT ttmpPlanTrackGraph.ClientName, ttmpPlanTrackGraph.FranDays AS [Work 
>Days in Fran], ttmpPlanTrackGraph.BurDays AS [Work Days in Bureau], 
>ttmpPlanTrackGraph.ConsultPlanFranchise, ttmpPlanTrackGraph.YrMth
>FROM ttmpPlanTrackGraph
>
>I have set the Link Child Field and Link Master fields both to YrMth.  The 
>report shows a different page for each month, however each graph shows all 
>records, not just the one for the pages month.
>
>How do I get only the relevant month's data showing on each page?
>
>Regards
>
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From jmhecht at earthlink.net  Wed Jun 22 13:15:20 2005
From: jmhecht at earthlink.net (Joe Hecht)
Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2005 11:15:20 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Field Names -> Setting control names
Message-ID: <001301c57756$5a781880$6401a8c0@laptop1>

As long as we are here does anyone have a wizard or code or better a John
Colby that can
 
1.	Look at the field name
2.	Look at the property sheet in the table
3.	Create a form that can take a good guess to what the control is
a.	Look at the field  name and
 
    Name the controls when the form is built
                        CboCustName
                        Txtcity 
 
And so on.
 
Joe Hecht
Los Angeles CA
 


From cfoust at infostatsystems.com  Wed Jun 22 13:15:39 2005
From: cfoust at infostatsystems.com (Charlotte Foust)
Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2005 11:15:39 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Good Code Bad Code Question
Message-ID: <E61FC1D4B1918244905B113C680BEA86873AB7@infoserver01.infostat.local>

You lost me, Joe.  You say it works correctly but you get a compile
error??  If you get a compile error, it shouldn't work.  Have you tried
decompile and recompile?  I have to say that in later versions of
Access, I've had better luck using the afterupdate of a combo to put a
non-value column value into another control.  Have you tried that?

Charlotte Foust


-----Original Message-----
From: Joe Hecht [mailto:jmhecht at earthlink.net] 
Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2005 11:01 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] Good Code Bad Code Question


The following line of code works correctly
 
Me.txtCost.Value = Me.cboPartNum.Column(2)
 
 
When I try to compile the code I get an error message that .cboPartNum

 
Method or Data member not found.  Any Idea what is up?
 
Option Explicit is set
 
Thanks
 
 
Joe Hecht
Los Angeles CA
 
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From DWUTKA at marlow.com  Wed Jun 22 13:13:53 2005
From: DWUTKA at marlow.com (DWUTKA at marlow.com)
Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2005 13:13:53 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Field Naming ( Just once I want to be ahead of JC )
Message-ID: <123701F54509D9119A4F00D0B747349016D755@main2.marlow.com>

Go buy a lottery ticket now.... <grin>

Drew

-----Original Message-----
From: Joe Hecht [mailto:jmhecht at earthlink.net]
Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2005 1:11 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Field Naming ( Just once I want to be ahead of JC
)


My gosh, I had an idea that drew liked too.

Joe Hecht
Los Angeles CA

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of DWUTKA at marlow.com
 Subject: RE: [AccessD] Field Naming ( Just once I want to be ahead of JC )

Not a bad idea.

Drew

-----Original Message-----
From: Joe Hecht [mailto:jmhecht at earthlink.net]
Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2005 11:37 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] Field Naming ( Just once I want to be ahead of JC )


When naming fields in table design view I try to prefix the field with
something to identify the source table i.e.:
 
Custfname
custLname
 
 
repfname
replname
 
Joe Hecht
Los Angeles CA
 
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From cfoust at infostatsystems.com  Wed Jun 22 13:17:55 2005
From: cfoust at infostatsystems.com (Charlotte Foust)
Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2005 11:17:55 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Field Naming ( Just once I want to be ahead of JC )
Message-ID: <E61FC1D4B1918244905B113C680BEA86873AB8@infoserver01.infostat.local>

Back in your moment of glory, Joe.  And has anyone checked the
temperature in Hell lately?  Something that both John and Drew think is
a good idea suggests some kind of unexpected occurrence.  LOL

Charlotte Foust


-----Original Message-----
From: Joe Hecht [mailto:jmhecht at earthlink.net] 
Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2005 11:11 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Field Naming ( Just once I want to be ahead of JC
)


My gosh, I had an idea that drew liked too.

Joe Hecht
Los Angeles CA

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of
DWUTKA at marlow.com
 Subject: RE: [AccessD] Field Naming ( Just once I want to be ahead of
JC )

Not a bad idea.

Drew

-----Original Message-----
From: Joe Hecht [mailto:jmhecht at earthlink.net]
Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2005 11:37 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] Field Naming ( Just once I want to be ahead of JC )


When naming fields in table design view I try to prefix the field with
something to identify the source table i.e.:
 
Custfname
custLname
 
 
repfname
replname
 
Joe Hecht
Los Angeles CA
 
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From martyconnelly at shaw.ca  Wed Jun 22 13:20:56 2005
From: martyconnelly at shaw.ca (MartyConnelly)
Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2005 11:20:56 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Question about Animated Graphics
References: <200506180246.j5I2kcR21562@databaseadvisors.com>
Message-ID: <42B9AC08.2020505@shaw.ca>

Well animated graphics seem to be possible from vba
Just run this snippet  in debug window
Please don't hit me ;)

With Assistant
    .On = True
    .Visible = True
    .Move xLeft:=400, yTop:=300
    .MoveWhenInTheWay = True
    .TipOfDay = True
    'need reference to MS Office 11.0 Library
   ' .Animation = msoAnimationGreeting
   .Animation = 2
End With


Arthur Fuller wrote:

>Bummer.... O well.
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Bobby Heid
>Sent: June 17, 2005 8:48 AM
>To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
>Subject: RE: [AccessD] Question about Animated Graphics
>
>Those are animated Gif files which are not supported in Access (well at
>least version 2000 and less).  I think that there are some 3rd-party
>controls that will let you host an animated Gif.
>
>Bobby
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Arthur Fuller
>Sent: Thursday, June 16, 2005 10:31 PM
>To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
>Subject: [AccessD] Question about Animated Graphics
>
>
>I found some cool graphics appropriate to an app I'm building now, but so
>far I can't make them work correctly. For a peek at the graphics, see
>http://www.animation-central.com/gears.htm. The graphics there move. When I
>download one graphic and drop it on an Access form, it's static not
>animated. I want the animation! How do I achieve this?
>
>TIA,
>Arthur
>
>  
>

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From kevinb at bepc.com  Wed Jun 22 13:24:30 2005
From: kevinb at bepc.com (Kevin Bachmeier)
Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2005 13:24:30 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Good Code Bad Code Question
Message-ID: <5C210A2F04B76B4AB2A18E6FEB81713401CDA669@HDQ06.bepc.net>

Try using the '!' instead of the '.' for the control reference:  
 Me!txtCost.Value = Me!cboPartNum.Column(2)
Versus:
 Me.txtCost.Value = Me.cboPartNum.Column(2)

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Joe Hecht
Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2005 1:01 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] Good Code Bad Code Question

The following line of code works correctly
 
Me.txtCost.Value = Me.cboPartNum.Column(2)
 
 
When I try to compile the code I get an error message that .cboPartNum

 
Method or Data member not found.  Any Idea what is up?
 
Option Explicit is set
 
Thanks
 
 
Joe Hecht
Los Angeles CA
 
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From artful at rogers.com  Wed Jun 22 13:29:07 2005
From: artful at rogers.com (Arthur Fuller)
Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2005 14:29:07 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Question about Animated Graphics
In-Reply-To: <42B9AC08.2020505@shaw.ca>
Message-ID: <200506221829.j5MIT9R17944@databaseadvisors.com>

Well, that clearly works, but I think I'll give you a smack upside the
temple anyway LOL. (I wonder if there is a more universally hated developer
in the world than the author(s) of these various assistants.)

So you have demonstrated that we can invoked the Assistant from Access.
Upsizing the question, is this sort of approach possible with other
animations? Case in point -- the gears inside a torn-open skin, that revolve
in synch. Can I use your code to apply to such an animated JPG, and if so,
how?

TIA,
Arthur

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of MartyConnelly
Sent: June 22, 2005 2:21 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Question about Animated Graphics

Well animated graphics seem to be possible from vba
Just run this snippet  in debug window
Please don't hit me ;)

With Assistant
    .On = True
    .Visible = True
    .Move xLeft:=400, yTop:=300
    .MoveWhenInTheWay = True
    .TipOfDay = True
    'need reference to MS Office 11.0 Library
   ' .Animation = msoAnimationGreeting
   .Animation = 2
End With




From artful at rogers.com  Wed Jun 22 13:34:46 2005
From: artful at rogers.com (Arthur Fuller)
Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2005 14:34:46 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Field Naming ( Just once I want to be ahead of JC )
In-Reply-To: <001201c57755$b8d6d660$6401a8c0@laptop1>
Message-ID: <200506221834.j5MIYlR19422@databaseadvisors.com>

My $.02...

I hate such naming conventions, for three reasons:
a) they defeat the natural logic of the various relationship-finding
wizards;
b) there is no need to prefix the column names since you can do so
unambiguously using the table name as a prefix (i.e. Customers.CustomerID =
Orders.CustomerID).
c) the prefixes hide the relationships while admittedly revealing the table
sources... but if we are really going to go in this direction, I would
rather use suffixes (i.e. CustomerID_Customers, CustomerID_Orders,
CustomerID_Payments etc.) -- so they are logically grouped together
according to domain type rather than table name.

Arthur

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Joe Hecht
Sent: June 22, 2005 2:11 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Field Naming ( Just once I want to be ahead of JC )

My gosh, I had an idea that drew liked too.

Joe Hecht
Los Angeles CA

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of DWUTKA at marlow.com
 Subject: RE: [AccessD] Field Naming ( Just once I want to be ahead of JC )

Not a bad idea.

Drew

-----Original Message-----
From: Joe Hecht [mailto:jmhecht at earthlink.net]
Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2005 11:37 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] Field Naming ( Just once I want to be ahead of JC )


When naming fields in table design view I try to prefix the field with
something to identify the source table i.e.:
 
Custfname
custLname
 
 
repfname
replname
 
Joe Hecht
Los Angeles CA
 
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From jmhecht at earthlink.net  Wed Jun 22 13:37:25 2005
From: jmhecht at earthlink.net (Joe Hecht)
Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2005 11:37:25 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Good Code Bad Code Question
In-Reply-To: <E61FC1D4B1918244905B113C680BEA86873AB7@infoserver01.infostat.local>
Message-ID: <001801c57759$70406430$6401a8c0@laptop1>

See inline


Subject: RE: [AccessD] Good Code Bad Code Question

You lost me, Joe.  You say it works correctly but you get a compile
error?  If you get a compile error, it shouldn't work. 

^ Yes I agree

Have you tried decompile and recompile? 

^ I have read posts here but maybe I am thick.(Well I am heavy  : )) I do
not understand how to decompile and recompile


I have to say that in later versions of Access, I've had better luck using
the afterupdate of a combo to put a non-value column value into another
control.  Have you tried that?

^That is where the code is.

Charlotte Foust
Thanks

-----Original Message-----
From: Joe Hecht [mailto:jmhecht at earthlink.net] 
Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2005 11:01 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] Good Code Bad Code Question


The following line of code works correctly
 
Me.txtCost.Value = Me.cboPartNum.Column(2)
 
 
When I try to compile the code I get an error message that .cboPartNum

 
Method or Data member not found.  Any Idea what is up?
 
Option Explicit is set
 
Thanks
 
 
Joe Hecht
Los Angeles CA
 
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From jmhecht at earthlink.net  Wed Jun 22 13:40:43 2005
From: jmhecht at earthlink.net (Joe Hecht)
Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2005 11:40:43 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Field Naming ( Just once I want to be ahead of JC )
In-Reply-To: <123701F54509D9119A4F00D0B747349016D755@main2.marlow.com>
Message-ID: <001d01c57759$e5f48850$6401a8c0@laptop1>

On my Way

Joe Hecht
Los Angeles CA

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of DWUTKA at marlow.com
Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2005 11:14 AM
To: access at joe2.endjunk.com; accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Field Naming ( Just once I want to be ahead of JC )

Go buy a lottery ticket now.... <grin>

Drew

-----Original Message-----
From: Joe Hecht [mailto:jmhecht at earthlink.net]
Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2005 1:11 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Field Naming ( Just once I want to be ahead of JC
)


My gosh, I had an idea that drew liked too.

Joe Hecht
Los Angeles CA

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of DWUTKA at marlow.com
 Subject: RE: [AccessD] Field Naming ( Just once I want to be ahead of JC )

Not a bad idea.

Drew

-----Original Message-----
From: Joe Hecht [mailto:jmhecht at earthlink.net]
Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2005 11:37 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] Field Naming ( Just once I want to be ahead of JC )


When naming fields in table design view I try to prefix the field with
something to identify the source table i.e.:
 
Custfname
custLname
 
 
repfname
replname
 
Joe Hecht
Los Angeles CA
 
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From jmhecht at earthlink.net  Wed Jun 22 13:41:30 2005
From: jmhecht at earthlink.net (Joe Hecht)
Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2005 11:41:30 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Field Naming ( Just once I want to be ahead of JC )
In-Reply-To: <E61FC1D4B1918244905B113C680BEA86873AB8@infoserver01.infostat.local>
Message-ID: <001e01c5775a$020410b0$6401a8c0@laptop1>

It is getting worm here in lost angels. ( Los Angeles)

Joe Hecht
Los Angeles CA

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Charlotte Foust
Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2005 11:18 AM
To: access at joe2.endjunk.com; Access Developers discussion and problem
solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Field Naming ( Just once I want to be ahead of JC )

Back in your moment of glory, Joe.  And has anyone checked the
temperature in Hell lately?  Something that both John and Drew think is
a good idea suggests some kind of unexpected occurrence.  LOL

Charlotte Foust


-----Original Message-----
From: Joe Hecht [mailto:jmhecht at earthlink.net] 
Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2005 11:11 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Field Naming ( Just once I want to be ahead of JC
)


My gosh, I had an idea that drew liked too.

Joe Hecht
Los Angeles CA

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of
DWUTKA at marlow.com
 Subject: RE: [AccessD] Field Naming ( Just once I want to be ahead of
JC )

Not a bad idea.

Drew

-----Original Message-----
From: Joe Hecht [mailto:jmhecht at earthlink.net]
Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2005 11:37 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] Field Naming ( Just once I want to be ahead of JC )


When naming fields in table design view I try to prefix the field with
something to identify the source table i.e.:
 
Custfname
custLname
 
 
repfname
replname
 
Joe Hecht
Los Angeles CA
 
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From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com  Wed Jun 22 13:53:36 2005
From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (John W. Colby)
Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2005 14:53:36 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Field Naming ( Just once I want to be ahead of JC )
In-Reply-To: <200506221834.j5MIYlR19422@databaseadvisors.com>
Message-ID: <008f01c5775b$b1fe00b0$6c7aa8c0@ColbyM6805>

1) Try doing a find on a field name used all over the damned database and
then come back and tell me how much you hate it.
2) Relationship finding wizards are for wusses who don't create explicit
relationships (should be shot BTW).
3) <there is no need to prefix the column names since you can do so
unambiguously using the table name as a prefix (i.e. Customers.CustomerID =
Orders.CustomerID).

Yes, e3xcept that there are a TON of places where this doesn't work such as
the field that a control is bound to.  Try searching for Orders.CustomerID
and you won't find all the places where just CustomerID is used.

>The prefixes hide the relationships while admittedly revealing the table
sources... but if we are really going to go in this direction, I would
rather use suffixes (i.e. CustomerID_Customers, CustomerID_Orders,
CustomerID_Payments etc.) -- so they are logically grouped together
according to domain type rather than table name.

I know you are into suffixes, but this isn't something that you are going to
see in a tab window or something so it is not going to help there.

Here's you change back.  ;-)

John W. Colby
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[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Arthur Fuller
Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2005 2:35 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Field Naming ( Just once I want to be ahead of JC )


My $.02...

I hate such naming conventions, for three reasons:
a) they defeat the natural logic of the various relationship-finding
wizards;
b) there is no need to prefix the column names since you can do so
unambiguously using the table name as a prefix (i.e. Customers.CustomerID =
Orders.CustomerID).
c) the prefixes hide the relationships while admittedly revealing the table
sources... but if we are really going to go in this direction, I would
rather use suffixes (i.e. CustomerID_Customers, CustomerID_Orders,
CustomerID_Payments etc.) -- so they are logically grouped together
according to domain type rather than table name.

Arthur

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Joe Hecht
Sent: June 22, 2005 2:11 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Field Naming ( Just once I want to be ahead of JC )

My gosh, I had an idea that drew liked too.

Joe Hecht
Los Angeles CA

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[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of DWUTKA at marlow.com
 Subject: RE: [AccessD] Field Naming ( Just once I want to be ahead of JC )

Not a bad idea.

Drew

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Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2005 11:37 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] Field Naming ( Just once I want to be ahead of JC )


When naming fields in table design view I try to prefix the field with
something to identify the source table i.e.:
 
Custfname
custLname
 
 
repfname
replname
 
Joe Hecht
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From pedro at plex.nl  Wed Jun 22 13:54:19 2005
From: pedro at plex.nl (Pedro Janssen)
Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2005 20:54:19 +0200
Subject: [AccessD] invalid number of arguments
References: <30BC111F638EB54082001A7E7282FE41114D45@elmo.co.montgomery.ny.us><007b01c57128$6c07acc0$fac581d5@pedro><00ba01c571b1$155f3bc0$0202a8c0@default><002001c57736$2e2e4210$fac581d5@pedro>
	<032e01c5773d$2e85d3c0$0202a8c0@default>
Message-ID: <005401c5775b$f2701c50$fac581d5@pedro>

Hello Michael,

I don't know if you are married, but my wife can be nagging at my head about
finishing this database for here.

I am not sure that i understand you!
Why using a Append query with an autonumbered field.

I will give you a small structure of the tables involved:


"commercial database linked table"

DEBSTM
Nummer        = Text  (but al Id's are numbers)    =  Primary Key
Adres
Plaats


i need following table

tblDEBITEUR
DebID         = Number   (Long Integer)
Postadres
Woonplaats


I need datatype = number because the filtering on this field otherwise isn't
going to be right.


Can you explain more on basis from this structure?


Pedro Janssen






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Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2005 5:15 PM
Subject: Re: [AccessD] invalid number of arguments


> Hi Pedro,
>
> <Snip & Reformat>
>
> - In this (commercial) database ... i can't change anything.
> - don't want to ad each new client in two different databases.
> - want to use the client table from the commercial database (clientID's
> identical).
> - clients [DEBSTM] can be linked to the "brick" database [tblDebiteur].
>
> > I don't want to use a query from this linked table, to adjust the names
> > because i then have to adjust al other query's and tables.
> > Using the same names for the table and fields would be the best way.
>
>
> > Pedro Janssen
>
> Hi Pedro,
>
> Nagging? :)
>
> An append query to an autonumbered table would be best.
> Leave in the text ClientID and use that as criteria in the query
> to make sure there are no duplicates. Alias the fields desired.
> You know macros have no error handling, right?
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From martyconnelly at shaw.ca  Wed Jun 22 14:03:51 2005
From: martyconnelly at shaw.ca (MartyConnelly)
Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2005 12:03:51 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] OT: Sharepoint Security (SOLVED)
References: <0IIH00C93VMOBK@l-daemon>
Message-ID: <42B9B617.8080403@shaw.ca>

I have found you can store ,update and read access tables on a 
sharepoint server
unfortunately my time ran out on the MS test site a few months back.
Wouldn't mind finding another free test one
In Access 2003 you can use soap via web class, direct xmlhttp or 
transferdatabase
to transfer tables or even documents xls or .doc


Sub WWSupload()
On Error GoTo errout

DoCmd.TransferDatabase transfertype:=acExport, databasetype:="WSS", _
                       
databasename:="http://mconnelly.sharepointsite.com", _
                       objecttype:=acTable, Source:="Household Inventory", _
                       Destination:="Household Inventory A", 
structureonly:=False
errout:
Debug.Print Err.Number & "-" & Err.Description
'http://mconnelly.sharepointsite.com/_vti_bin/Lists.asmx
End Sub

Sub WWSuploadPics()
On Error GoTo errout

DoCmd.TransferDatabase transfertype:=acExport, databasetype:="WSS", _
                       
databasename:="http://mconnelly.sharepointsite.com", _
                       objecttype:=acTable, Source:="Employees", _
                       Destination:="Employees", structureonly:=False
errout:
Debug.Print Err.Number & "-" & Err.Description

End Sub


 Sub Click()
On Error GoTo Err_Command8_Click
' To see methods of call
'http://www.xmethods.com/detail.html?id=8
'http://www.xmltoday.com/examples/soap/translate.psp
Dim URL As String
Dim http As New MSXML2.XMLHTTP
Dim objResult As New MSXML2.DOMDocument
Dim objStyle As New MSXML2.DOMDocument
Dim strEnvelopeBegin As String
Dim strEnvelopeEnd As String
Dim xmlReq As String
Dim s As String
Dim strReturned As String
Dim strQuery As String

  s = "<?xml version=""1.0""?>" & vbCrLf
 
    URL = "http://mconnelly.sharepointsite.com/_vti_bin/Lists.asmx"
   
strEnvelopeBegin = "<soap:Envelope " & vbCrLf & _
" xmlns:xsi=""http://www.w3.org/2001/XMLSchema-instance""" & vbCrLf & _
" xmlns:xsd=""http://www.w3.org/2001/XMLSchema""" & vbCrLf & _
" xmlns:soap=""http://schemas.xmlsoap.org/soap/envelope/""> " & vbCrLf & _
" <soap:Body> <GetListCollection 
xmlns=""http://schemas.microsoft.com/sharepoint/soap/"" />"
strEnvelopeEnd = vbCrLf & " </soap:Body> </soap:Envelope>"

    xmlReq = s & strEnvelopeBegin & strEnvelopeEnd
       Debug.Print xmlReq
     '  Me!Text0 = xmlReq
     '  Me!Text2 = URL
   
    http.Open "POST", URL, False
    'http.setRequestHeader "Accept", "text/xml"
    http.setRequestHeader "Content-Type", "text/xml"
   ' http.setRequestHeader "Cache-Control", "no-cache"
    http.setRequestHeader "SOAPAction", 
"http://schemas.microsoft.com/sharepoint/soap/GetListCollection"
   ' http.setRequestHeader "SOAPMethodName", "GetListCollection"

    http.send xmlReq

    Debug.Print http.responseText; Len(http.responseText)
    Debug.Print http.Status; http.statusText
    WriteFile "C:\Access files\sharepoint\" & "test" & _
       Format(Now, "yyyymmddhhmmss") & ".xml", http.responseText

     Debug.Print http.responseBody; Len(http.responseBody)
    ' Debug.Print http.responseXML
    'objResult = new ActiveXObject ("Microsoft.XMLDOM")
    objResult.async = False
    objResult.Load http.responseText
    'strQuery = 
"SOAP:Envelope/SOAP:Body/<namesp13:getTranslationResponse/input"
     strQuery = "SOAP:Envelope/SOAP:Body/"
    strReturned = objResult.selectSingleNode(strQuery).Text
    Debug.Print "*" & strReturned & "*"
  Set http = Nothing
    ''objStyle = new ActiveXObject ("Microsoft.XMLDOM")
    'objStyle.async = False
    'objStyle.Load ("http://212.179.15.36/" + style)
    'Document.all.Message.innerHTML = objResult.transformNode(objStyle)
    Debug.Print "got result"
    'Debug.Print objResult.transformNode(objStyle)
    'mLargeStr = objResult.transformNode(objStyle)

Exit_Command8_Click:
    Exit Sub

Err_Command8_Click:
    MsgBox Err.Description
    Resume Exit_Command8_Click
   
End Sub

' WriteFile "C:\Access files\xmltests\strout" & Format(Now, 
"yyyymmddhhmmss") & ".xml", strOut


Public Sub WriteFile(ByVal sFileName As String, ByVal sContents As String)
' Dump XML  String to File for debugging
    Dim fhFile As Integer
    fhFile = FreeFile
   ' Debug.Print "Length of string=" & Len(sContents)
    Open sFileName For Output As #fhFile
    Print #fhFile, sContents;
    Close #fhFile
    Debug.Print "Out File" & sFileName
End Sub

Jim Lawrence wrote:

>Hi All:
>
>Given that this question will seem simple and slightly ignorant... what is a
>SharePoint Portal used for and what does it improve or replace.
>
>Jim
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim DeMarco
>Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2005 9:33 AM
>To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
>Subject: RE: [AccessD] OT: Sharepoint Security (SOLVED)
>
>The culprit seemed to be that the user(s) in question were members of a
>Desktop Administrators group that was set up for us.  Removing that group
>from the Sharepoint server machine seems to have corrected the issue
>(further testing pending).
>
>Thanks to all,
>
>Jim DeMarco
>
>-----Original Message-----
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>[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Jim DeMarco
>Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2005 10:30 AM
>To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
>Subject: RE: [AccessD] OT: Sharepoint Security
>
>
>Well I just set up a non-IT staff member with Read access and that's all he
>could do (read).  When I removed him from the site he could not access it
>any longer.  So it looks like it may be using Windows Security to
>authenticate users.  Unfortunately I need to limit even our IT staff in
>various sections of the site so I've got to get a work around together.
>
>I'll keep you posted.
>
>Thanks,
>
>Jim DeMarco
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Jim Hewson
>Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2005 10:08 AM
>To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
>Subject: RE: [AccessD] OT: Sharepoint Security
>
>
>Jim,
>I'm a novice, but will become the SharePoint "Expert" when I change
>jobs, in my company, next month.  I'm interested in the outcome of your
>question.
>A couple of random thoughts...
>There are two levels of security for SharePoint.  They are Central
>Administration and Site Administration rights.  Central take precedence
>over site rights.  If a person is a member of the Central Administration
>group which manages the settings for the Web Server and virtual servers,
>they effectively have Administrative rights to the entire portal.
>In Site Administration, IIRC, there is a toggle somewhere to designate a
>person to have the same rights as the parent area or site.
>Let me know if you have found the solution.
>Regards,
>Jim H.
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim DeMarco
>Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2005 8:04 AM
>To: AccessD (E-mail)
>Subject: [AccessD] OT: Sharepoint Security
>
>List,
>
>I've done some Googling but I can't seem to find the answer to this odd
>problem.  I set up a Sharepoint site as a test bed (Sharepoint Services
>not Server) and gave a few users access.  No matter what rights I give
>the users they have full admin rights to the sight.  I set up custom
>security groups and the site is completely ignoring them.  To further
>add to the mystery I removed on user (she is not a member of any
>security group therefore should not have access to the site) and she can
>still get in with full admin rights.  Is it possible that Sharepoint is
>deferring to Windows rights?  These are all IT staff here and have more
>liberal rights to our network than the average user.
>
>Does anyone have a clue?  A push in the right direction would be
>appreciated.
>
>TIA
>
>Jim DeMarco
>Director of Application Development
>Hudson Health Plan
>
>
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From jmhecht at earthlink.net  Wed Jun 22 14:07:13 2005
From: jmhecht at earthlink.net (Joe Hecht)
Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2005 12:07:13 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Field Naming ( Just once I want to be ahead of JC )
In-Reply-To: <008f01c5775b$b1fe00b0$6c7aa8c0@ColbyM6805>
Message-ID: <001f01c5775d$99f8a400$6401a8c0@laptop1>

John,

2) Relationship finding wizards are for wusses who don't create explicit
relationships (should be shot BTW).


I set relationships in either the relationship window or when I build
queries. Is that where you do it?

Have not seen a relationship finding Wizard?

Joe





From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com  Wed Jun 22 14:08:11 2005
From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (John W. Colby)
Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2005 15:08:11 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Field Naming ( Just once I want to be ahead of JC )
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Message-ID: <009001c5775d$bb886830$6c7aa8c0@ColbyM6805>

The relationship window specifically.

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[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Joe Hecht
Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2005 3:07 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Field Naming ( Just once I want to be ahead of JC )


John,

2) Relationship finding wizards are for wusses who don't create explicit
relationships (should be shot BTW).


I set relationships in either the relationship window or when I build
queries. Is that where you do it?

Have not seen a relationship finding Wizard?

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From martyconnelly at shaw.ca  Wed Jun 22 14:20:31 2005
From: martyconnelly at shaw.ca (MartyConnelly)
Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2005 12:20:31 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Detect specific printer
References: <974F830FE464C14E8652F95E24DA663C0BF9FF@mail03.Mcbassoc.com>
Message-ID: <42B9B9FF.7030003@shaw.ca>

This code example should get you started have a look at this,
Access 2002 + uses Printer object
Below Access 2002 you need to use API calls to PrintDev routines

http://allenbrowne.com/AppPrintMgt.html
Printer Selection Utility Allen Browne
If you look down the page there are links to Albert Kallal's  site
for Access 97 and 2000 printer selection methods


Mark Boyd wrote:

>Is there a way thru VBA to detect if a specific printer has been
>installed?
>I need to check if the PDF Writer is on the user's machine.  If not,
>they'll be prompted to install it.
> 
>Thanks,
>Mark Boyd
>I/S Supervisor
>McBee Associates, Inc.
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From MarkBoyd at McBeeAssociates.com  Wed Jun 22 14:37:13 2005
From: MarkBoyd at McBeeAssociates.com (Mark Boyd)
Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2005 15:37:13 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Detect specific printer
Message-ID: <974F830FE464C14E8652F95E24DA663C0BFA05@mail03.Mcbassoc.com>

Thanks Marty.  I was able to create a work-around.
I use some of Ken Ketz's 'defaultprt.zip' code to change the default
printer to the PDF Writer.  Then, I use Access' Printer object to see if
the default printer was changed.  If the user doesn't have the PDF
Writer installed, the default printer will stay the same.
This way, I can throw a message to the screen prompting the user to
install the appropriate software.

Thanks again,
Mark Boyd
I/S Supervisor
McBee Associates, Inc.
610/964-9680 x15

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[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of MartyConnelly
Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2005 3:21 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Detect specific printer

This code example should get you started have a look at this, Access
2002 + uses Printer object Below Access 2002 you need to use API calls
to PrintDev routines

http://allenbrowne.com/AppPrintMgt.html
Printer Selection Utility Allen Browne
If you look down the page there are links to Albert Kallal's  site for
Access 97 and 2000 printer selection methods


Mark Boyd wrote:

>Is there a way thru VBA to detect if a specific printer has been 
>installed?
>I need to check if the PDF Writer is on the user's machine.  If not, 
>they'll be prompted to install it.
> 
>Thanks,
>Mark Boyd
>I/S Supervisor
>McBee Associates, Inc.
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From cfoust at infostatsystems.com  Wed Jun 22 14:48:18 2005
From: cfoust at infostatsystems.com (Charlotte Foust)
Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2005 12:48:18 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Good Code Bad Code Question
Message-ID: <E61FC1D4B1918244905B113C680BEA8689A46D@infoserver01.infostat.local>

To decompile, you start Access with a command line /decompile argument.
Any command line argument requires the full path to the executable be in
the shortcut or the command line arg is ignored.  Then if you open a
database, it will decompile.  The recompile is just going to the VBE and
using Debug-->Compile, but do this after closing the Access session and
restarting normally, without the /decompile switch.

If you hover the mouse over Me.cboPartNum.Column(2) in the code, what do
you see in the tooltip?  And for that matter, how many columns does
cboPartNum have?  Column numbering in the collection starts at zero, so
Me.cboPartNum.Column(2) refers to the third column in the combobox.

Charlotte Foust


-----Original Message-----
From: Joe Hecht [mailto:jmhecht at earthlink.net] 
Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2005 11:37 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Good Code Bad Code Question


See inline


Subject: RE: [AccessD] Good Code Bad Code Question

You lost me, Joe.  You say it works correctly but you get a compile
error?  If you get a compile error, it shouldn't work. 

^ Yes I agree

Have you tried decompile and recompile? 

^ I have read posts here but maybe I am thick.(Well I am heavy  : )) I
do not understand how to decompile and recompile


I have to say that in later versions of Access, I've had better luck
using the afterupdate of a combo to put a non-value column value into
another control.  Have you tried that?

^That is where the code is.

Charlotte Foust
Thanks

-----Original Message-----
From: Joe Hecht [mailto:jmhecht at earthlink.net] 
Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2005 11:01 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] Good Code Bad Code Question


The following line of code works correctly
 
Me.txtCost.Value = Me.cboPartNum.Column(2)
 
 
When I try to compile the code I get an error message that .cboPartNum

 
Method or Data member not found.  Any Idea what is up?
 
Option Explicit is set
 
Thanks
 
 
Joe Hecht
Los Angeles CA
 
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From cfoust at infostatsystems.com  Wed Jun 22 14:57:12 2005
From: cfoust at infostatsystems.com (Charlotte Foust)
Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2005 12:57:12 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Good Code Bad Code Question
Message-ID: <E61FC1D4B1918244905B113C680BEA8689A46F@infoserver01.infostat.local>

Joe,

To decompile, use a command line argument in opening the database.  That
means you have to fully reference the path of the Access executable and
the full path of the target database or the /decompile switch will be
ignored.  After you open the Access database that way, close the Access
session, then reopen the database normally without the decompile switch,
go to the VBE and use Debug-->Compile... To recompile the app.  This
clears out some crud that may otherwise cause you grief.

There was a suggestion about using a bang instead of a dot in
Me.cboPartNum.Column(2) and I encourage you to try that without delay
because I have found that there are places and times in Access where you
must do so.  If that solves the problem, you're ahead of the game.  Also
make sure that cboPartNum has at least 3 columns specified in its
property sheet, since the column numbering is zero based for the
collection.

Charlotte Foust


-----Original Message-----
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Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2005 11:37 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Good Code Bad Code Question


See inline


Subject: RE: [AccessD] Good Code Bad Code Question

You lost me, Joe.  You say it works correctly but you get a compile
error?  If you get a compile error, it shouldn't work. 

^ Yes I agree

Have you tried decompile and recompile? 

^ I have read posts here but maybe I am thick.(Well I am heavy  : )) I
do not understand how to decompile and recompile


I have to say that in later versions of Access, I've had better luck
using the afterupdate of a combo to put a non-value column value into
another control.  Have you tried that?

^That is where the code is.

Charlotte Foust
Thanks

-----Original Message-----
From: Joe Hecht [mailto:jmhecht at earthlink.net] 
Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2005 11:01 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] Good Code Bad Code Question


The following line of code works correctly
 
Me.txtCost.Value = Me.cboPartNum.Column(2)
 
 
When I try to compile the code I get an error message that .cboPartNum

 
Method or Data member not found.  Any Idea what is up?
 
Option Explicit is set
 
Thanks
 
 
Joe Hecht
Los Angeles CA
 
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From donald.a.Mcgillivray at mail.sprint.com  Wed Jun 22 15:43:54 2005
From: donald.a.Mcgillivray at mail.sprint.com (Mcgillivray, Don [ITS])
Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2005 15:43:54 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Reference to the Printer object causing fatal error
Message-ID: <EC829B33DF5B5B48A956B7A2E894AA9A83E520@PLSWB06C.ad.sprint.com>

The message box says that Microsoft is sorry for the inconvenience, but
they're not offering to replace all the hair I'm pulling out over this .
. .

Seems simple enough, and it actually was working for a while.  Here's
the code:

Dim prt as Printer

For Each prt in Application.Printers
	Debug.Print prt.DeviceName
Next

Execute the code and it pauses a few seconds, then crashes Access with a
fatal error and the not-so-helpful "Send this to Microsoft . . ."
message box.

Since it was working for a while (and the same code works fine on my
home machine), I have to think that something in my Access or Office
installation got hosed somehow.  Any ideas where to look/what to try?  

Using AccessXP on Windows 2000.

Thanks!

Don



From stuart at lexacorp.com.pg  Wed Jun 22 16:07:04 2005
From: stuart at lexacorp.com.pg (Stuart McLachlan)
Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2005 07:07:04 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] Just Checking....
In-Reply-To: <007001c5773e$dcdc4cf0$6c7aa8c0@ColbyM6805>
References: <123701F54509D9119A4F00D0B747349016D74D@main2.marlow.com>
Message-ID: <42BA5F98.8107.3B5AFA1@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>

On 22 Jun 2005 at 11:27, John W. Colby wrote:

> ROTFL.  Yea, I am getting old.
> 
> I am about to launch a field naming convention discussion so look out.  ;-)
> 

I've just been asked to taske over some apps which were developed in-house 
by a certain organisation in PNG.

Most of them have a table called "MAIN TABLE" which is, believe it or not 
the main table used for storing data.

So far I have also come across fields named DATE and NAME  as well as 
several fields with 40-50 character fieldnames comprising multiple words 
separated by spaces.





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From Jim.Hale at FleetPride.com  Wed Jun 22 16:50:05 2005
From: Jim.Hale at FleetPride.com (Hale, Jim)
Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2005 16:50:05 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Classes not recognized in mda
Message-ID: <6A6AA9DF57E4F046BDA1E273BDDB6772337699@corp-es01.fleetpride.com>

Can forms be placed in libraries? If so how are they referenced?
Jim Hale

-----Original Message-----
From: John W. Colby [mailto:jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com]
Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2005 10:25 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Classes not recognized in mda


Hmm... This is the other way of doing it.  What Charlotte is saying is that
INSIDE of the library you can set a function that dims a new instance and
returns a pointer to the class.  The problem with doing this is that you
can't use intellisense to see the properties of the class etc. whereas using
the method I described, your classes become just another object and you can
use it just as you would any other object.

John W. Colby
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[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Charlotte Foust
Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2005 11:15 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Classes not recognized in mda


It's a little tricky using classes in a code library because you have to
give them a public interface before they can be used elsewhere.  I don't
have an example on this machine, so I'm working from memory here, but as I
recall, I dimmed a public object variable as a new instance of the class I
wanted to expose.  That allowed the app linked to the library to grab the
public instance of the class and use its methods and
properties.    

Charlotte Foust


-----Original Message-----
From: Hale, Jim [mailto:Jim.Hale at fleetpride.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2005 8:01 AM
To: 'Accessd (E-mail)
Subject: [AccessD] Classes not recognized in mda


I have moved some classes and modules out of the front end into a code
library. I set the same references in the code library as in the front end.
In the front end I set a reference to the code library. The FE recognizes
the functions in the library modules fine, no problems but doesn't recognize
the classes (i.e. I get an error in the FE when I try to instantiate the
moved classes). The code ran fine when the classes resided in the front end.
I am obviously doing something simple wrong. Any suggestions? TIA Jim Hale

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From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com  Wed Jun 22 16:49:15 2005
From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (John W. Colby)
Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2005 17:49:15 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Just Checking....
In-Reply-To: <42BA5F98.8107.3B5AFA1@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>
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LOL, yea ain't life fun.

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Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2005 5:07 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Just Checking....


On 22 Jun 2005 at 11:27, John W. Colby wrote:

> ROTFL.  Yea, I am getting old.
> 
> I am about to launch a field naming convention discussion so look out.  
> ;-)
> 

I've just been asked to taske over some apps which were developed in-house 
by a certain organisation in PNG.

Most of them have a table called "MAIN TABLE" which is, believe it or not 
the main table used for storing data.

So far I have also come across fields named DATE and NAME  as well as 
several fields with 40-50 character fieldnames comprising multiple words 
separated by spaces.





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From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com  Wed Jun 22 16:56:41 2005
From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (John W. Colby)
Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2005 17:56:41 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Classes not recognized in mda
In-Reply-To: <6A6AA9DF57E4F046BDA1E273BDDB6772337699@corp-es01.fleetpride.com>
Message-ID: <009e01c57775$499d1f00$6c7aa8c0@ColbyM6805>

Forms can be placed in libraries.  Unbound forms (non data forms) are easy,
bound forms are trickier.  Referencing them requires calling a function that
opens the form.  The issue with bound forms is that the table name or query
for a form is assumed to be in the database container that the form resides
in.  The easiest way around that is to use a SQL statement that uses an "in
databasename" clause.  Typically you would have the form open not bound to a
recordsource, then have it set it's recordsource to the passed in sql
statement.  Not pretty but it can be made to work.

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[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Hale, Jim
Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2005 5:50 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Classes not recognized in mda


Can forms be placed in libraries? If so how are they referenced? Jim Hale

-----Original Message-----
From: John W. Colby [mailto:jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com]
Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2005 10:25 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Classes not recognized in mda


Hmm... This is the other way of doing it.  What Charlotte is saying is that
INSIDE of the library you can set a function that dims a new instance and
returns a pointer to the class.  The problem with doing this is that you
can't use intellisense to see the properties of the class etc. whereas using
the method I described, your classes become just another object and you can
use it just as you would any other object.

John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com 

Contribute your unused CPU cycles to a good cause:
http://folding.stanford.edu/

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Charlotte Foust
Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2005 11:15 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Classes not recognized in mda


It's a little tricky using classes in a code library because you have to
give them a public interface before they can be used elsewhere.  I don't
have an example on this machine, so I'm working from memory here, but as I
recall, I dimmed a public object variable as a new instance of the class I
wanted to expose.  That allowed the app linked to the library to grab the
public instance of the class and use its methods and
properties.    

Charlotte Foust


-----Original Message-----
From: Hale, Jim [mailto:Jim.Hale at fleetpride.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2005 8:01 AM
To: 'Accessd (E-mail)
Subject: [AccessD] Classes not recognized in mda


I have moved some classes and modules out of the front end into a code
library. I set the same references in the code library as in the front end.
In the front end I set a reference to the code library. The FE recognizes
the functions in the library modules fine, no problems but doesn't recognize
the classes (i.e. I get an error in the FE when I try to instantiate the
moved classes). The code ran fine when the classes resided in the front end.
I am obviously doing something simple wrong. Any suggestions? TIA Jim Hale

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From scapistrant at symphonyinfo.com  Wed Jun 22 17:03:39 2005
From: scapistrant at symphonyinfo.com (Steve Capistrant)
Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2005 17:03:39 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Scanning for corruption
Message-ID: <855499653F55AD4190B242717DF132BC082CDE@dewey.Symphony.local>

Has anyone tried building some routine that scans all tables in an
Access database for corruption?  I'd be interested in implementing this
as part of an overall preventative (sort of) maintenance or
troubleshooting process.

It seems possible to do, because certain routine actions -- like copying
a table -- will fail if the table has a corruption.  Run a routine that
looped through the tables collection, copy each to an external temporary
database, trap for errors at each step, and display the name of each
corrupted table.  Scanning at the record level might be trickier,
because you usually can't return the ID of a corrupted record.

Thoughts?

Steve Capistrant
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From martyconnelly at shaw.ca  Wed Jun 22 17:08:15 2005
From: martyconnelly at shaw.ca (MartyConnelly)
Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2005 15:08:15 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Question about Animated Graphics
References: <200506221829.j5MIT9R17944@databaseadvisors.com>
Message-ID: <42B9E14F.8000303@shaw.ca>

That was just a proof of concept.
Just drop  Leban's animated gif  control on the form from the toolbox
after adding  Ocx via Tools--> ActiveX
I used the Ver 2.5 of the OCX and the gears were whirring beautifully
There are start and stop methods and you can change background colour.
http://www.lebans.com/animatedgifplayer.htm

Private Sub Form_Open(Cancel As Integer)
'Me.AnimatedGifCtl0.LoadGif True 'if true will look up gif filename via 
file dialog
Me.AnimatedGifCtl0.strGifFileName = "C:\Access 
files\Lebans\AnimatedGif\gears5.gif"
Me.AnimatedGifCtl0.LoadGif False
' If you want the  Gif to start
' automatically upon load then
' uncomment out the line below.
Me.AnimatedGifCtl0.StartTimer
DoEvents
Me.Refresh
End Sub

Arthur Fuller wrote:

>Well, that clearly works, but I think I'll give you a smack upside the
>temple anyway LOL. (I wonder if there is a more universally hated developer
>in the world than the author(s) of these various assistants.)
>
>So you have demonstrated that we can invoked the Assistant from Access.
>Upsizing the question, is this sort of approach possible with other
>animations? Case in point -- the gears inside a torn-open skin, that revolve
>in synch. Can I use your code to apply to such an animated JPG, and if so,
>how?
>
>TIA,
>Arthur
>
>-----Original Message-----
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>[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of MartyConnelly
>Sent: June 22, 2005 2:21 PM
>To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
>Subject: Re: [AccessD] Question about Animated Graphics
>
>Well animated graphics seem to be possible from vba
>Just run this snippet  in debug window
>Please don't hit me ;)
>
>With Assistant
>    .On = True
>    .Visible = True
>    .Move xLeft:=400, yTop:=300
>    .MoveWhenInTheWay = True
>    .TipOfDay = True
>    'need reference to MS Office 11.0 Library
>   ' .Animation = msoAnimationGreeting
>   .Animation = 2
>End With
>
>
>  
>

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From accessd at shaw.ca  Wed Jun 22 18:24:22 2005
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2005 16:24:22 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] OT: Sharepoint Security (SOLVED)
In-Reply-To: <08F823FD83787D4BA0B99CA580AD3C74016C3A66@TTNEXCHCL2.hshhp.com>
Message-ID: <0III00H1HECMB7@l-daemon>

Hi Jim:

Thanks for the information. Now I will have to run up a portal and give it a
try and see what happens.

Jim

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Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2005 10:38 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] OT: Sharepoint Security (SOLVED)

Here's a link to M$ for the answer:
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsserver2003/technologies/sharepoint/default.m
spx

In a nutshell it's a collaboration web site where teams can share documents
in multiple libraries, share contacts, task lists, calendars and more.  It's
easily customizable and a pretty cool tool IMHO.  You can set up your own
user groups and customize access at every function level.  If you run
Windows Server 2003 you have a copy of SP Services already.  The Portal
version is the big brother and must be purchased.

HTH,

Jim DeMarco

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Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2005 12:40 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] OT: Sharepoint Security (SOLVED)


Hi All:

Given that this question will seem simple and slightly ignorant... what is a
SharePoint Portal used for and what does it improve or replace.

Jim

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Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2005 9:33 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] OT: Sharepoint Security (SOLVED)

The culprit seemed to be that the user(s) in question were members of a
Desktop Administrators group that was set up for us.  Removing that group
from the Sharepoint server machine seems to have corrected the issue
(further testing pending).

Thanks to all,

Jim DeMarco

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Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2005 10:30 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] OT: Sharepoint Security


Well I just set up a non-IT staff member with Read access and that's all he
could do (read).  When I removed him from the site he could not access it
any longer.  So it looks like it may be using Windows Security to
authenticate users.  Unfortunately I need to limit even our IT staff in
various sections of the site so I've got to get a work around together.

I'll keep you posted.

Thanks,

Jim DeMarco

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[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Jim Hewson
Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2005 10:08 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] OT: Sharepoint Security


Jim,
I'm a novice, but will become the SharePoint "Expert" when I change
jobs, in my company, next month.  I'm interested in the outcome of your
question.
A couple of random thoughts...
There are two levels of security for SharePoint.  They are Central
Administration and Site Administration rights.  Central take precedence
over site rights.  If a person is a member of the Central Administration
group which manages the settings for the Web Server and virtual servers,
they effectively have Administrative rights to the entire portal.
In Site Administration, IIRC, there is a toggle somewhere to designate a
person to have the same rights as the parent area or site.
Let me know if you have found the solution.
Regards,
Jim H.

-----Original Message-----
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Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2005 8:04 AM
To: AccessD (E-mail)
Subject: [AccessD] OT: Sharepoint Security

List,

I've done some Googling but I can't seem to find the answer to this odd
problem.  I set up a Sharepoint site as a test bed (Sharepoint Services
not Server) and gave a few users access.  No matter what rights I give
the users they have full admin rights to the sight.  I set up custom
security groups and the site is completely ignoring them.  To further
add to the mystery I removed on user (she is not a member of any
security group therefore should not have access to the site) and she can
still get in with full admin rights.  Is it possible that Sharepoint is
deferring to Windows rights?  These are all IT staff here and have more
liberal rights to our network than the average user.

Does anyone have a clue?  A push in the right direction would be
appreciated.

TIA

Jim DeMarco
Director of Application Development
Hudson Health Plan



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From accessd at shaw.ca  Wed Jun 22 18:33:05 2005
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2005 16:33:05 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] OT: Sharepoint Security (SOLVED)
In-Reply-To: <42B9B617.8080403@shaw.ca>
Message-ID: <0III0010CER5GE@l-daemon>

Hi Marty:

There are some awesome concepts that can be used. I will have to get a demo
up and running... I think I have a version hidden down in a pile of M$
CDs... Now to find the room on one of the servers.

Jim

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of MartyConnelly
Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2005 12:04 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] OT: Sharepoint Security (SOLVED)

I have found you can store ,update and read access tables on a 
sharepoint server
unfortunately my time ran out on the MS test site a few months back.
Wouldn't mind finding another free test one
In Access 2003 you can use soap via web class, direct xmlhttp or 
transferdatabase
to transfer tables or even documents xls or .doc


Sub WWSupload()
On Error GoTo errout

DoCmd.TransferDatabase transfertype:=acExport, databasetype:="WSS", _
                       
databasename:="http://mconnelly.sharepointsite.com", _
                       objecttype:=acTable, Source:="Household Inventory", _
                       Destination:="Household Inventory A", 
structureonly:=False
errout:
Debug.Print Err.Number & "-" & Err.Description
'http://mconnelly.sharepointsite.com/_vti_bin/Lists.asmx
End Sub

Sub WWSuploadPics()
On Error GoTo errout

DoCmd.TransferDatabase transfertype:=acExport, databasetype:="WSS", _
                       
databasename:="http://mconnelly.sharepointsite.com", _
                       objecttype:=acTable, Source:="Employees", _
                       Destination:="Employees", structureonly:=False
errout:
Debug.Print Err.Number & "-" & Err.Description

End Sub


 Sub Click()
On Error GoTo Err_Command8_Click
' To see methods of call
'http://www.xmethods.com/detail.html?id=8
'http://www.xmltoday.com/examples/soap/translate.psp
Dim URL As String
Dim http As New MSXML2.XMLHTTP
Dim objResult As New MSXML2.DOMDocument
Dim objStyle As New MSXML2.DOMDocument
Dim strEnvelopeBegin As String
Dim strEnvelopeEnd As String
Dim xmlReq As String
Dim s As String
Dim strReturned As String
Dim strQuery As String

  s = "<?xml version=""1.0""?>" & vbCrLf
 
    URL = "http://mconnelly.sharepointsite.com/_vti_bin/Lists.asmx"
   
strEnvelopeBegin = "<soap:Envelope " & vbCrLf & _
" xmlns:xsi=""http://www.w3.org/2001/XMLSchema-instance""" & vbCrLf & _
" xmlns:xsd=""http://www.w3.org/2001/XMLSchema""" & vbCrLf & _
" xmlns:soap=""http://schemas.xmlsoap.org/soap/envelope/""> " & vbCrLf & _
" <soap:Body> <GetListCollection 
xmlns=""http://schemas.microsoft.com/sharepoint/soap/"" />"
strEnvelopeEnd = vbCrLf & " </soap:Body> </soap:Envelope>"

    xmlReq = s & strEnvelopeBegin & strEnvelopeEnd
       Debug.Print xmlReq
     '  Me!Text0 = xmlReq
     '  Me!Text2 = URL
   
    http.Open "POST", URL, False
    'http.setRequestHeader "Accept", "text/xml"
    http.setRequestHeader "Content-Type", "text/xml"
   ' http.setRequestHeader "Cache-Control", "no-cache"
    http.setRequestHeader "SOAPAction", 
"http://schemas.microsoft.com/sharepoint/soap/GetListCollection"
   ' http.setRequestHeader "SOAPMethodName", "GetListCollection"

    http.send xmlReq

    Debug.Print http.responseText; Len(http.responseText)
    Debug.Print http.Status; http.statusText
    WriteFile "C:\Access files\sharepoint\" & "test" & _
       Format(Now, "yyyymmddhhmmss") & ".xml", http.responseText

     Debug.Print http.responseBody; Len(http.responseBody)
    ' Debug.Print http.responseXML
    'objResult = new ActiveXObject ("Microsoft.XMLDOM")
    objResult.async = False
    objResult.Load http.responseText
    'strQuery = 
"SOAP:Envelope/SOAP:Body/<namesp13:getTranslationResponse/input"
     strQuery = "SOAP:Envelope/SOAP:Body/"
    strReturned = objResult.selectSingleNode(strQuery).Text
    Debug.Print "*" & strReturned & "*"
  Set http = Nothing
    ''objStyle = new ActiveXObject ("Microsoft.XMLDOM")
    'objStyle.async = False
    'objStyle.Load ("http://212.179.15.36/" + style)
    'Document.all.Message.innerHTML = objResult.transformNode(objStyle)
    Debug.Print "got result"
    'Debug.Print objResult.transformNode(objStyle)
    'mLargeStr = objResult.transformNode(objStyle)

Exit_Command8_Click:
    Exit Sub

Err_Command8_Click:
    MsgBox Err.Description
    Resume Exit_Command8_Click
   
End Sub

' WriteFile "C:\Access files\xmltests\strout" & Format(Now, 
"yyyymmddhhmmss") & ".xml", strOut


Public Sub WriteFile(ByVal sFileName As String, ByVal sContents As String)
' Dump XML  String to File for debugging
    Dim fhFile As Integer
    fhFile = FreeFile
   ' Debug.Print "Length of string=" & Len(sContents)
    Open sFileName For Output As #fhFile
    Print #fhFile, sContents;
    Close #fhFile
    Debug.Print "Out File" & sFileName
End Sub

Jim Lawrence wrote:

>Hi All:
>
>Given that this question will seem simple and slightly ignorant... what is
a
>SharePoint Portal used for and what does it improve or replace.
>
>Jim
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim DeMarco
>Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2005 9:33 AM
>To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
>Subject: RE: [AccessD] OT: Sharepoint Security (SOLVED)
>
>The culprit seemed to be that the user(s) in question were members of a
>Desktop Administrators group that was set up for us.  Removing that group
>from the Sharepoint server machine seems to have corrected the issue
>(further testing pending).
>
>Thanks to all,
>
>Jim DeMarco
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Jim DeMarco
>Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2005 10:30 AM
>To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
>Subject: RE: [AccessD] OT: Sharepoint Security
>
>
>Well I just set up a non-IT staff member with Read access and that's all he
>could do (read).  When I removed him from the site he could not access it
>any longer.  So it looks like it may be using Windows Security to
>authenticate users.  Unfortunately I need to limit even our IT staff in
>various sections of the site so I've got to get a work around together.
>
>I'll keep you posted.
>
>Thanks,
>
>Jim DeMarco
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Jim Hewson
>Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2005 10:08 AM
>To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
>Subject: RE: [AccessD] OT: Sharepoint Security
>
>
>Jim,
>I'm a novice, but will become the SharePoint "Expert" when I change
>jobs, in my company, next month.  I'm interested in the outcome of your
>question.
>A couple of random thoughts...
>There are two levels of security for SharePoint.  They are Central
>Administration and Site Administration rights.  Central take precedence
>over site rights.  If a person is a member of the Central Administration
>group which manages the settings for the Web Server and virtual servers,
>they effectively have Administrative rights to the entire portal.
>In Site Administration, IIRC, there is a toggle somewhere to designate a
>person to have the same rights as the parent area or site.
>Let me know if you have found the solution.
>Regards,
>Jim H.
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim DeMarco
>Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2005 8:04 AM
>To: AccessD (E-mail)
>Subject: [AccessD] OT: Sharepoint Security
>
>List,
>
>I've done some Googling but I can't seem to find the answer to this odd
>problem.  I set up a Sharepoint site as a test bed (Sharepoint Services
>not Server) and gave a few users access.  No matter what rights I give
>the users they have full admin rights to the sight.  I set up custom
>security groups and the site is completely ignoring them.  To further
>add to the mystery I removed on user (she is not a member of any
>security group therefore should not have access to the site) and she can
>still get in with full admin rights.  Is it possible that Sharepoint is
>deferring to Windows rights?  These are all IT staff here and have more
>liberal rights to our network than the average user.
>
>Does anyone have a clue?  A push in the right direction would be
>appreciated.
>
>TIA
>
>Jim DeMarco
>Director of Application Development
>Hudson Health Plan
>
>
>
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From accessd at shaw.ca  Wed Jun 22 18:34:35 2005
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2005 16:34:35 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] OT: Sharepoint Security (SOLVED)
In-Reply-To: <011401c57754$64dd7380$0100a8c0@Martin>
Message-ID: <0III0010JETNHY@l-daemon>

Hi Martin:

With all this information I should be good to go... I now need to run up
SharePoint.

Thanks you very much.
Jim 

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Martin Reid
Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2005 11:01 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] OT: Sharepoint Security (SOLVED)

Hi Jim

I did a paper for Microsoft on this last year.

http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/default.asp?url=/library/en-us/odc_fp2003_
ta/html/odc_FP_whatsnew2003.asp

http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/default.asp?url=/library/en-us/odc_fp2003_
ta/html/odc_FP_whatsnew2003.asp


May be interesting


Martin




----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Jim DeMarco" <Jdemarco at hudsonhealthplan.org>
To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving" 
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2005 6:55 PM
Subject: RE: [AccessD] OT: Sharepoint Security (SOLVED)


> True (SPS is the portal version for the uninitiated).  And I didn't even 
> mention the cool hooks into Office 2003 where you can connect Access to 
> DBs posted on a site or link Excel sheets for real time data updates.
>
> JD
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Martin Reid
> Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2005 1:45 PM
> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] OT: Sharepoint Security (SOLVED)
>
>
> SPS provides the ability to search and index many WSS sites. It sites on 
> top
> of WSS and allows you to pull them all together. Its a real cool tool for 
> example full file store search, personal sites, auidences etc etc
>
> I have sent you a presentation on the very topic I am giving on Friday LOL
>
>
> Martin
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Jim Lawrence" <accessd at shaw.ca>
> To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'"
> <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2005 5:40 PM
> Subject: RE: [AccessD] OT: Sharepoint Security (SOLVED)
>
>
>> Hi All:
>>
>> Given that this question will seem simple and slightly ignorant... what 
>> is
>> a
>> SharePoint Portal used for and what does it improve or replace.
>>
>> Jim
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim DeMarco
>> Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2005 9:33 AM
>> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
>> Subject: RE: [AccessD] OT: Sharepoint Security (SOLVED)
>>
>> The culprit seemed to be that the user(s) in question were members of a
>> Desktop Administrators group that was set up for us.  Removing that group
>> from the Sharepoint server machine seems to have corrected the issue
>> (further testing pending).
>>
>> Thanks to all,
>>
>> Jim DeMarco
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Jim DeMarco
>> Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2005 10:30 AM
>> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
>> Subject: RE: [AccessD] OT: Sharepoint Security
>>
>>
>> Well I just set up a non-IT staff member with Read access and that's all 
>>  > he
>> could do (read).  When I removed him from the site he could not access it
>> any longer.  So it looks like it may be using Windows Security to
>> authenticate users.  Unfortunately I need to limit even our IT staff in
>> various sections of the site so I've got to get a work around together.
>>
>> I'll keep you posted.
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Jim DeMarco
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Jim Hewson
>> Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2005 10:08 AM
>> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
>> Subject: RE: [AccessD] OT: Sharepoint Security
>>
>>
>> Jim,
>> I'm a novice, but will become the SharePoint "Expert" when I change
>> jobs, in my company, next month.  I'm interested in the outcome of your
>> question.
>> A couple of random thoughts...
>> There are two levels of security for SharePoint.  They are Central
>> Administration and Site Administration rights.  Central take precedence
>> over site rights.  If a person is a member of the Central Administration
>> group which manages the settings for the Web Server and virtual servers,
>> they effectively have Administrative rights to the entire portal.
>> In Site Administration, IIRC, there is a toggle somewhere to designate a
>> person to have the same rights as the parent area or site.
>> Let me know if you have found the solution.
>> Regards,
>> Jim H.
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim DeMarco
>> Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2005 8:04 AM
>> To: AccessD (E-mail)
>> Subject: [AccessD] OT: Sharepoint Security
>>
>> List,
>>
>> I've done some Googling but I can't seem to find the answer to this odd
>> problem.  I set up a Sharepoint site as a test bed (Sharepoint Services
>> not Server) and gave a few users access.  No matter what rights I give
>> the users they have full admin rights to the sight.  I set up custom
>> security groups and the site is completely ignoring them.  To further
>> add to the mystery I removed on user (she is not a member of any
>> security group therefore should not have access to the site) and she can
>> still get in with full admin rights.  Is it possible that Sharepoint is
>> deferring to Windows rights?  These are all IT staff here and have more
>> liberal rights to our network than the average user.
>>
>> Does anyone have a clue?  A push in the right direction would be
>> appreciated.
>>
>> TIA
>>
>> Jim DeMarco
>> Director of Application Development
>> Hudson Health Plan
>>
>>
>>
>> ************************************************************************
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>> recipient, and may contain information from Hudson Health Plan (HHP)
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From accessd at shaw.ca  Wed Jun 22 18:42:34 2005
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2005 16:42:34 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] OT: Sharepoint Security (SOLVED)
In-Reply-To: <011401c57754$64dd7380$0100a8c0@Martin>
Message-ID: <0III00419F6YZH@l-daemon>

Hi All:

If there is anyone who I did not thank for information of the SharePoint
Portal subject consider them-selves thanked.

Jim



From jmhecht at earthlink.net  Wed Jun 22 19:02:13 2005
From: jmhecht at earthlink.net (Joe Hecht)
Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2005 17:02:13 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Good Code Bad Code Question
In-Reply-To: <5C210A2F04B76B4AB2A18E6FEB81713401CDA669@HDQ06.bepc.net>
Message-ID: <000601c57786$cfaf1c90$6401a8c0@laptop1>

Kevin wins.

Need more bangs and less dots.

Joe Hecht
Los Angeles CA

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Kevin Bachmeier
Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2005 11:25 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Good Code Bad Code Question

Try using the '!' instead of the '.' for the control reference:  
 Me!txtCost.Value = Me!cboPartNum.Column(2)
Versus:
 Me.txtCost.Value = Me.cboPartNum.Column(2)

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Joe Hecht
Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2005 1:01 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] Good Code Bad Code Question

The following line of code works correctly
 
Me.txtCost.Value = Me.cboPartNum.Column(2)
 
 
When I try to compile the code I get an error message that .cboPartNum

 
Method or Data member not found.  Any Idea what is up?
 
Option Explicit is set
 
Thanks
 
 
Joe Hecht
Los Angeles CA
 
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From jmhecht at earthlink.net  Wed Jun 22 19:11:26 2005
From: jmhecht at earthlink.net (Joe Hecht)
Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2005 17:11:26 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Good Code Bad Code Question
In-Reply-To: <E61FC1D4B1918244905B113C680BEA8689A46D@infoserver01.infostat.local>
Message-ID: <000701c57788$19176b70$6401a8c0@laptop1>

C:\Program Files\Microsoft Office\Office10\MSACCESS.EXE
C:\Data\K fernan\62205\PosiChargeFS Programs.mdb /decompile  

The installation path for access is the MS default.

When I run the above I get error message
		Windows cannot find C:\Program ( Bla Bla Bla)
Any thoughts


Joe Hecht
Los Angeles CA

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Charlotte Foust
Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2005 12:48 PM
To: access at joe2.endjunk.com; Access Developers discussion and problem
solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Good Code Bad Code Question

To decompile, you start Access with a command line /decompile argument.
Any command line argument requires the full path to the executable be in
the shortcut or the command line arg is ignoredCharlotte Foust


-----Original Message-----
From: Joe Hecht [mailto:jmhecht at earthlink.net] 
Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2005 11:37 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Good Code Bad Code Question


See inline


Subject: RE: [AccessD] Good Code Bad Code Question

You lost me, Joe.  You say it works correctly but you get a compile
error?  If you get a compile error, it shouldn't work. 

^ Yes I agree

Have you tried decompile and recompile? 

^ I have read posts here but maybe I am thick.(Well I am heavy  : )) I
do not understand how to decompile and recompile


I have to say that in later versions of Access, I've had better luck
using the afterupdate of a combo to put a non-value column value into
another control.  Have you tried that?

^That is where the code is.

Charlotte Foust
Thanks

-----Original Message-----
From: Joe Hecht [mailto:jmhecht at earthlink.net] 
Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2005 11:01 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] Good Code Bad Code Question


The following line of code works correctly
 
Me.txtCost.Value = Me.cboPartNum.Column(2)
 
 
When I try to compile the code I get an error message that .cboPartNum

 
Method or Data member not found.  Any Idea what is up?
 
Option Explicit is set
 
Thanks
 
 
Joe Hecht
Los Angeles CA
 
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From cfoust at infostatsystems.com  Wed Jun 22 19:25:02 2005
From: cfoust at infostatsystems.com (Charlotte Foust)
Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2005 17:25:02 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Good Code Bad Code Question
Message-ID: <E61FC1D4B1918244905B113C680BEA86873ABB@infoserver01.infostat.local>

The dot works fine until you try and access the columns collection of
the combobox object.  The syntax just gets Access 2000 and later
confused, since it is seeing the combobox as a property of the form
rather than a member of a collection.  This is one of those increasingly
rare cases where you really do need the bang.  Of course, when you get
to .Net, there *is* no bang .... <VBG>

Charlotte Foust


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Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2005 5:02 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Good Code Bad Code Question


Kevin wins.

Need more bangs and less dots.

Joe Hecht
Los Angeles CA

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Bachmeier
Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2005 11:25 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Good Code Bad Code Question

Try using the '!' instead of the '.' for the control reference:  
 Me!txtCost.Value = Me!cboPartNum.Column(2)
Versus:
 Me.txtCost.Value = Me.cboPartNum.Column(2)

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Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2005 1:01 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] Good Code Bad Code Question

The following line of code works correctly
 
Me.txtCost.Value = Me.cboPartNum.Column(2)
 
 
When I try to compile the code I get an error message that .cboPartNum

 
Method or Data member not found.  Any Idea what is up?
 
Option Explicit is set
 
Thanks
 
 
Joe Hecht
Los Angeles CA
 
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From cfoust at infostatsystems.com  Wed Jun 22 19:26:13 2005
From: cfoust at infostatsystems.com (Charlotte Foust)
Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2005 17:26:13 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Good Code Bad Code Question
Message-ID: <E61FC1D4B1918244905B113C680BEA86873ABC@infoserver01.infostat.local>

You need quotes around any path with spaces in it, so both the
executable path and the mdb path need to be enclosed in a pair of double
quotes each.

Charlotte Foust


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Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2005 5:11 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Good Code Bad Code Question


C:\Program Files\Microsoft Office\Office10\MSACCESS.EXE C:\Data\K
fernan\62205\PosiChargeFS Programs.mdb /decompile  

The installation path for access is the MS default.

When I run the above I get error message
		Windows cannot find C:\Program ( Bla Bla Bla)
Any thoughts


Joe Hecht
Los Angeles CA

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[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Charlotte
Foust
Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2005 12:48 PM
To: access at joe2.endjunk.com; Access Developers discussion and problem
solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Good Code Bad Code Question

To decompile, you start Access with a command line /decompile argument.
Any command line argument requires the full path to the executable be in
the shortcut or the command line arg is ignoredCharlotte Foust


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Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2005 11:37 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Good Code Bad Code Question


See inline


Subject: RE: [AccessD] Good Code Bad Code Question

You lost me, Joe.  You say it works correctly but you get a compile
error?  If you get a compile error, it shouldn't work. 

^ Yes I agree

Have you tried decompile and recompile? 

^ I have read posts here but maybe I am thick.(Well I am heavy  : )) I
do not understand how to decompile and recompile


I have to say that in later versions of Access, I've had better luck
using the afterupdate of a combo to put a non-value column value into
another control.  Have you tried that?

^That is where the code is.

Charlotte Foust
Thanks

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Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2005 11:01 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] Good Code Bad Code Question


The following line of code works correctly
 
Me.txtCost.Value = Me.cboPartNum.Column(2)
 
 
When I try to compile the code I get an error message that .cboPartNum

 
Method or Data member not found.  Any Idea what is up?
 
Option Explicit is set
 
Thanks
 
 
Joe Hecht
Los Angeles CA
 
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From Bruce.Bruen at railcorp.nsw.gov.au  Wed Jun 22 19:37:11 2005
From: Bruce.Bruen at railcorp.nsw.gov.au (Bruen, Bruce)
Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2005 10:37:11 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] Good Code Bad Code Question
Message-ID: <F2BE8EAB3EA585418337B71BCE6F3BF304EBC9@msmet100.rail.nsw.gov.au>

"C:\Program Files\Microsoft Office\Office10\MSACCESS.EXE" "C:\Data\K
fernan\62205\PosiChargeFS Programs.mdb" /decompile   

I just love Moronsoft's implemntation of long file names.

bruce

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Sent: Thursday, 23 June 2005 10:11 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Good Code Bad Code Question

C:\Program Files\Microsoft Office\Office10\MSACCESS.EXE C:\Data\K
fernan\62205\PosiChargeFS Programs.mdb /decompile  

The installation path for access is the MS default.

When I run the above I get error message
		Windows cannot find C:\Program ( Bla Bla Bla) Any
thoughts


Joe Hecht
Los Angeles CA

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Charlotte
Foust
Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2005 12:48 PM
To: access at joe2.endjunk.com; Access Developers discussion and problem
solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Good Code Bad Code Question

To decompile, you start Access with a command line /decompile argument.
Any command line argument requires the full path to the executable be in
the shortcut or the command line arg is ignoredCharlotte Foust


-----Original Message-----
From: Joe Hecht [mailto:jmhecht at earthlink.net]
Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2005 11:37 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Good Code Bad Code Question


See inline


Subject: RE: [AccessD] Good Code Bad Code Question

You lost me, Joe.  You say it works correctly but you get a compile
error?  If you get a compile error, it shouldn't work. 

^ Yes I agree

Have you tried decompile and recompile? 

^ I have read posts here but maybe I am thick.(Well I am heavy  : )) I
do not understand how to decompile and recompile


I have to say that in later versions of Access, I've had better luck
using the afterupdate of a combo to put a non-value column value into
another control.  Have you tried that?

^That is where the code is.

Charlotte Foust
Thanks

-----Original Message-----
From: Joe Hecht [mailto:jmhecht at earthlink.net] 
Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2005 11:01 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] Good Code Bad Code Question


The following line of code works correctly
 
Me.txtCost.Value = Me.cboPartNum.Column(2)
 
 
When I try to compile the code I get an error message that .cboPartNum

 
Method or Data member not found.  Any Idea what is up?
 
Option Explicit is set
 
Thanks
 
 
Joe Hecht
Los Angeles CA
 
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From dejpolsys at hotmail.com  Wed Jun 22 20:55:45 2005
From: dejpolsys at hotmail.com (William Hindman)
Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2005 21:55:45 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Open File Dialog Box Call Fails
References: <00b401c57736$57c70fd0$6c01a8c0@HAL9004>
Message-ID: <BAY103-DAV16EBB48BF01AEA576D80F1AEEA0@phx.gbl>

..the comdlg32.dll is probably the most screwed with dll by 3rd party apps 
..see if his admin has disabled Windows File Protection ...or better yet, 
have him run a System File Check on each affected system ...if that fails to 
correct the problem, try a System Restore to a date before the problem first 
appeared.

William

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From: "Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software" <bchacc at san.rr.com>
To: <AccessD at databaseadvisors.com>; "dba-tech" 
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Cc: "Ben Saltzer" <bsaltzer at consultsse.com>
Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2005 10:26 AM
Subject: [AccessD] Open File Dialog Box Call Fails


Dear List:

I have a client who's selling an app I wrote where I use the code from the 
ADH to call the file open dialog box:

Declare Function adh_apiGetOpenFileName Lib "comdlg32.dll" _
 Alias "GetOpenFileNameA" (ofn As tagOPENFILENAME) As Boolean

I haven't worked on the app for several months and it's been very stable 
until a couple of weeks ago when this call began to fail with no error 
message.  Just didn't open the dialog box.  Then it failed on another 
computer.  Then on another one.  Now no computer in his place runs this api.

I went over to his place and stepped through the code and sure enough it 
goes to the api call and then goes right through the api call without 
opening the dialog box.

If we try to drop the common dialog control onto a form in design view from 
the additional tools list in the toolbox we get a message that says the OLE 
server isn't registered.

So I need to figure out

1) how to get the OLE server registered (unregistered first I suppose) and 
see if that is somehow hosing the file open dialog box
2) figure out if there's a problem with comdlg32.dll
3) see if I can determine why this app suddenly went south so that it 
doesn't happen at one of his customer sites.

He's using Access 2000 SP-3 but also fails in AXP.  The app fails on both 
W2K and WXP.  He's pretty careful about virus scanning.  I don't think it is 
a virus even though it behaves like one.  Is it possible that it got hosed 
by an automatic windows update?

Any clue as to what's going on here would be greatly appreciated.

MTIA,

Rocky Smolin
Beach Access Software
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From jmhecht at earthlink.net  Wed Jun 22 23:55:24 2005
From: jmhecht at earthlink.net (Joe Hecht)
Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2005 21:55:24 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Just Checking....
In-Reply-To: <E61FC1D4B1918244905B113C680BEA86873AB6@infoserver01.infostat.local>
Message-ID: <003e01c577af$c5146f00$6401a8c0@laptop1>

Please share

Joe Hecht
Los Angeles CA

Blame the muscle relaxants
for back spasms, please. <g>







From ssharkins at bellsouth.net  Thu Jun 23 07:49:54 2005
From: ssharkins at bellsouth.net (Susan Harkins)
Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2005 08:49:54 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Expression not working in text box
Message-ID: <20050623124955.QFUR4468.ibm61aec.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>

=Forms!mainform!subform.Form.RecordsetClone.RecordCount
 
I've used the above expression before, in a main form, to return a count of
the records in a subform. It isn't working in 2003. It works in the
Immediate window, so I have no clue what the problem is. :( 
 
I know I can just use Count(*) in the subform and reference that control --
and I will if I have to in the end -- but anyone know what they above won't
work in 2003? 
 
Susan H. 


From ssharkins at bellsouth.net  Thu Jun 23 08:59:59 2005
From: ssharkins at bellsouth.net (Susan Harkins)
Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2005 09:59:59 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Normalizing issue
Message-ID: <20050623135959.FMWJ25470.ibm57aec.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>

How do you guys deal with people that use three or more names
professionally? I do -- Susan Sales Harkins. 
 
Do you store the second name with the first or use three fields? The middle
name really isn't a "middle" name. It's actually part of the last name, but
the last name is the real last name -- so if you stored it with the last
name, you'd have to depend on users to enter it correctly, as in Harkins,
Sales --  which is a mistake before you even get started... And how do you
write in the flexibility that handles 2 or 3 names? 
 
Susan H. 


From jimdettman at earthlink.net  Thu Jun 23 09:32:00 2005
From: jimdettman at earthlink.net (Jim Dettman)
Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2005 10:32:00 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Normalizing issue
In-Reply-To: <20050623135959.FMWJ25470.ibm57aec.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>
Message-ID: <NDEALJOEGMMPCDKIFGNFOEBMDKAA.jimdettman@earthlink.net>

Susan,

  I make it part of the last name field.

Jim.

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Subject: [AccessD] Normalizing issue


How do you guys deal with people that use three or more names
professionally? I do -- Susan Sales Harkins. 
 
Do you store the second name with the first or use three fields? The middle
name really isn't a "middle" name. It's actually part of the last name, but
the last name is the real last name -- so if you stored it with the last
name, you'd have to depend on users to enter it correctly, as in Harkins,
Sales --  which is a mistake before you even get started... And how do you
write in the flexibility that handles 2 or 3 names? 
 
Susan H. 
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From prodevmg at yahoo.com  Thu Jun 23 09:39:10 2005
From: prodevmg at yahoo.com (Lonnie Johnson)
Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2005 07:39:10 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [AccessD] Normalizing issue
In-Reply-To: <NDEALJOEGMMPCDKIFGNFOEBMDKAA.jimdettman@earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <20050623143910.93035.qmail@web33101.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Same here. 
 
The number of records that have a second last name vs those that don't dosen't warrant our efforts to program around it. We put the burden of keying it in properly on the business/clerical departments.

Jim Dettman <jimdettman at earthlink.net> wrote:
Susan,

I make it part of the last name field.

Jim.

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Sent: Thursday, June 23, 2005 10:00 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] Normalizing issue


How do you guys deal with people that use three or more names
professionally? I do -- Susan Sales Harkins. 

Do you store the second name with the first or use three fields? The middle
name really isn't a "middle" name. It's actually part of the last name, but
the last name is the real last name -- so if you stored it with the last
name, you'd have to depend on users to enter it correctly, as in Harkins,
Sales -- which is a mistake before you even get started... And how do you
write in the flexibility that handles 2 or 3 names? 

Susan H. 
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From ssharkins at bellsouth.net  Thu Jun 23 09:46:12 2005
From: ssharkins at bellsouth.net (Susan Harkins)
Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2005 10:46:12 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Normalizing issue
In-Reply-To: <20050623143910.93035.qmail@web33101.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <20050623144612.YQSE5308.ibm66aec.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>

So you both depend on the data entry person to enter Harkins Sales instead
of Sales Harkins? 

That's interesting. ;) 

Susan H. 
 
The number of records that have a second last name vs those that don't
dosen't warrant our efforts to program around it. We put the burden of
keying it in properly on the business/clerical departments.




From kwilliam at ashlandnet.com  Thu Jun 23 09:46:43 2005
From: kwilliam at ashlandnet.com (Keith Williamson)
Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2005 10:46:43 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] DateName Function
In-Reply-To: <20050623135959.FMWJ25470.ibm57aec.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>
Message-ID: <000f01c57802$5fee5610$64aba8c0@ashlandnet.com>

Anyone know how to deal with this?

I am collating data for daily sales.  The data I am given is total sales per
day, for the past three years.  Ideally I want to turn this into a graphic
comparing monthly sales for each year (ie.  3-dimensional comparison of each
month's sales, compared to prior history.)

The problem I am having is that I run a sum query to give me monthly sales,
for each year, using the month function (ie.  Month([date]) &
year([date])...and summarizing on that.)

What I wind up with is:
Expr1:Month([date]) field = 1, 2, 3, 4,....12
Expr2:Year([date]) field = 2003, 2004, 2005
SumofSales field = currency value of sales for that month/year

One row of data that might be returned:

1, 2003, 25000


Now ...I can make a graph of this...but it doesn't look good 1-2003 vs.
1-2004 vs. 1-2005

Obviously...I would rather it say January 2003 vs. January 2004 vs. January
2005

BUT>>>>  When I try to use the DateName Function on Month([date])
field....it doesn't work:

DateName([expr1])

When I run the query, I get a request for value dialogue box for Expr1.

Do I need to format the function a certain way to get it to calculate
DateName on a function(month([date])??

Thanks for any help!!!

Regards,

Keith E. Williamson
Ashland Equipment, Inc
phone # (410) 273-1856
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From reuben at gfconsultants.com  Thu Jun 23 09:59:37 2005
From: reuben at gfconsultants.com (Reuben Cummings)
Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2005 09:59:37 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Normalizing issue
In-Reply-To: <20050623144612.YQSE5308.ibm66aec.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>
Message-ID: <JKEJKMLAODCACEAIJLPAIECFDDAA.reuben@gfconsultants.com>

I use middle name.  My feeling is that no one cares if it's actually a last
name or middle name.  Either way it's in the right place all the time if you
use a middle name field.

The question really is how is that person listed on legal documents.  If,
for example, you are listed on your mortgage or social security (or
whatever) as Last name = Sales Harkins, First name = Susan then that's the
last name, but if you use it "unofficially" then I would make it a middle
name.

Reuben Cummings
GFC, LLC
phone: 812.523.1017
email: reuben at gfconsultants.com


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Sent: Thursday, June 23, 2005 9:46 AM
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Subject: RE: [AccessD] Normalizing issue


So you both depend on the data entry person to enter Harkins Sales instead
of Sales Harkins?

That's interesting. ;)

Susan H.

The number of records that have a second last name vs those that don't
dosen't warrant our efforts to program around it. We put the burden of
keying it in properly on the business/clerical departments.


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From prodevmg at yahoo.com  Thu Jun 23 09:58:05 2005
From: prodevmg at yahoo.com (Lonnie Johnson)
Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2005 07:58:05 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [AccessD] Normalizing issue
In-Reply-To: <20050623144612.YQSE5308.ibm66aec.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>
Message-ID: <20050623145805.90053.qmail@web33109.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Yes, actually our MIS department and our data entery department work together to enforce standards for data entry such as abreviations and use of special characters. There is also a step of quality control after all data is entered each day to ensure acurracy.

Susan Harkins <ssharkins at bellsouth.net> wrote:So you both depend on the data entry person to enter Harkins Sales instead
of Sales Harkins? 

That's interesting. ;) 

Susan H. 

The number of records that have a second last name vs those that don't
dosen't warrant our efforts to program around it. We put the burden of
keying it in properly on the business/clerical departments.


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From john at winhaven.net  Thu Jun 23 10:04:45 2005
From: john at winhaven.net (John Bartow)
Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2005 10:04:45 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Normalizing issue
In-Reply-To: <20050623143910.93035.qmail@web33101.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <200506231504.j5NF4jx8118710@pimout3-ext.prodigy.net>

Ditto - I suppose it varies by region/country but we've very little need for
it in this area.

John B. 

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Sent: Thursday, June 23, 2005 9:39 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Normalizing issue

Same here. 
 
The number of records that have a second last name vs those that don't
dosen't warrant our efforts to program around it. We put the burden of
keying it in properly on the business/clerical departments.

Jim Dettman <jimdettman at earthlink.net> wrote:
Susan,

I make it part of the last name field.

Jim.

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Susan Harkins
Sent: Thursday, June 23, 2005 10:00 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] Normalizing issue


How do you guys deal with people that use three or more names
professionally? I do -- Susan Sales Harkins. 

Do you store the second name with the first or use three fields? The middle
name really isn't a "middle" name. It's actually part of the last name, but
the last name is the real last name -- so if you stored it with the last
name, you'd have to depend on users to enter it correctly, as in Harkins,
Sales -- which is a mistake before you even get started... And how do you
write in the flexibility that handles 2 or 3 names? 

Susan H. 
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From ssharkins at bellsouth.net  Thu Jun 23 10:24:38 2005
From: ssharkins at bellsouth.net (Susan Harkins)
Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2005 11:24:38 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Normalizing issue
In-Reply-To: <20050623145805.90053.qmail@web33109.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <20050623152444.MELP25209.ibm63aec.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>

I wrote a two-part article about training a few years ago -- I thought it
was a good piece, but they hacked it to shreds. :( 

Training is a database developer/designer's best friend. :) 

Susan H. 

Yes, actually our MIS department and our data entery department work
together to enforce standards for data entry such as abreviations and use of
special characters. There is also a step of quality control after all data
is entered each day to ensure acurracy.

Susan Harkins <ssharkins at bellsouth.net> wrote:So you both depend on the data
entry person to enter Harkins Sales instead of Sales Harkins? 

That's interesting. ;) 




From ssharkins at bellsouth.net  Thu Jun 23 10:24:38 2005
From: ssharkins at bellsouth.net (Susan Harkins)
Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2005 11:24:38 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Normalizing issue
In-Reply-To: <JKEJKMLAODCACEAIJLPAIECFDDAA.reuben@gfconsultants.com>
Message-ID: <20050623152456.MEOM25209.ibm63aec.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>

I see your point -- but how do you handle those times when you're not
gleaning middle names, just first and last -- for instance, a simple mailing
list where you don't want to include middle names, but where the person
"goes by" Sales Harkins... You'd leave off Sales -- which isn't a crisis,
but could make some people mad. 

For me, Sales is just part of my writing name -- I don't use it officially
-- don't' sign anything with it, but it's an identifier. 

Years ago, I learned that another Susan Harkins was the editor of another
technical journal -- that was just too close for comfort -- I added the
Sales. 

Now, if you sent me a letter addressed to Susan Harkins, I wouldn't care or
get angry -- but some might. Is this worth considering? I suppose one answer
is to simply always use the middle name in all cases, but that seems
overkill. 

Susan H. 

I use middle name.  My feeling is that no one cares if it's actually a last
name or middle name.  Either way it's in the right place all the time if you
use a middle name field.

The question really is how is that person listed on legal documents.  If,
for example, you are listed on your mortgage or social security (or
whatever) as Last name = Sales Harkins, First name = Susan then that's the
last name, but if you use it "unofficially" then I would make it a middle
name.

Reuben Cummings
GFC, LLC
phone: 812.523.1017
email: reuben at gfconsultants.com


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Sent: Thursday, June 23, 2005 9:46 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Normalizing issue


So you both depend on the data entry person to enter Harkins Sales instead
of Sales Harkins?

That's interesting. ;)

Susan H.

The number of records that have a second last name vs those that don't
dosen't warrant our efforts to program around it. We put the burden of
keying it in properly on the business/clerical departments.


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From cfoust at infostatsystems.com  Thu Jun 23 10:28:32 2005
From: cfoust at infostatsystems.com (Charlotte Foust)
Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2005 08:28:32 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Just Checking....
Message-ID: <E61FC1D4B1918244905B113C680BEA86873ABE@infoserver01.infostat.local>

Um ... The muscle relaxants or the back spasms??

Charlotte Foust


-----Original Message-----
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Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2005 9:55 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Just Checking....


Please share

Joe Hecht
Los Angeles CA

Blame the muscle relaxants
for back spasms, please. <g>





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From mikedorism at verizon.net  Thu Jun 23 10:30:11 2005
From: mikedorism at verizon.net (Mike & Doris Manning)
Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2005 11:30:11 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] DateName Function
In-Reply-To: <000f01c57802$5fee5610$64aba8c0@ashlandnet.com>
Message-ID: <000401c57808$736a8780$2f01a8c0@hargrove.internal>

Use DatePart to get the month name instead.

Doris Manning
Database Administrator
Hargrove Inc.
www.hargroveinc.com

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Sent: Thursday, June 23, 2005 10:47 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] DateName Function


Anyone know how to deal with this?

I am collating data for daily sales.  The data I am given is total sales per
day, for the past three years.  Ideally I want to turn this into a graphic
comparing monthly sales for each year (ie.  3-dimensional comparison of each
month's sales, compared to prior history.)

The problem I am having is that I run a sum query to give me monthly sales,
for each year, using the month function (ie.  Month([date]) &
year([date])...and summarizing on that.)

What I wind up with is:
Expr1:Month([date]) field = 1, 2, 3, 4,....12
Expr2:Year([date]) field = 2003, 2004, 2005
SumofSales field = currency value of sales for that month/year

One row of data that might be returned:

1, 2003, 25000


Now ...I can make a graph of this...but it doesn't look good 1-2003 vs.
1-2004 vs. 1-2005

Obviously...I would rather it say January 2003 vs. January 2004 vs. January
2005

BUT>>>>  When I try to use the DateName Function on Month([date])
field....it doesn't work:

DateName([expr1])

When I run the query, I get a request for value dialogue box for Expr1.

Do I need to format the function a certain way to get it to calculate
DateName on a function(month([date])??

Thanks for any help!!!

Regards,

Keith E. Williamson
Ashland Equipment, Inc
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From cfoust at infostatsystems.com  Thu Jun 23 10:33:23 2005
From: cfoust at infostatsystems.com (Charlotte Foust)
Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2005 08:33:23 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Normalizing issue
Message-ID: <E61FC1D4B1918244905B113C680BEA86873ABF@infoserver01.infostat.local>

If it isn't a middle or maiden name, what is it?  This gets even more
tricky with non-English names where "last" names can get really
confusing.  I generally provide a field for first, middle, and last name
and make it the responsibility of the user to enter the appropriate
value in the appropriate field.  The rules for parsing this can become
so draconian, that it hardly seems worth the work to do anything else.

Charlotte Foust


-----Original Message-----
From: Susan Harkins [mailto:ssharkins at bellsouth.net] 
Sent: Thursday, June 23, 2005 7:00 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] Normalizing issue


How do you guys deal with people that use three or more names
professionally? I do -- Susan Sales Harkins. 
 
Do you store the second name with the first or use three fields? The
middle name really isn't a "middle" name. It's actually part of the last
name, but the last name is the real last name -- so if you stored it
with the last name, you'd have to depend on users to enter it correctly,
as in Harkins, Sales --  which is a mistake before you even get
started... And how do you write in the flexibility that handles 2 or 3
names? 
 
Susan H. 
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From ssharkins at bellsouth.net  Thu Jun 23 10:42:31 2005
From: ssharkins at bellsouth.net (Susan Harkins)
Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2005 11:42:31 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Normalizing issue
In-Reply-To: <E61FC1D4B1918244905B113C680BEA86873ABF@infoserver01.infostat.local>
Message-ID: <20050623154231.MOKU25209.ibm63aec.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>

 
If it isn't a middle or maiden name, what is it?  This gets even more tricky
with non-English names where "last" names can get really confusing.  I
generally provide a field for first, middle, and last name and make it the
responsibility of the user to enter the appropriate value in the appropriate
field.  The rules for parsing this can become so draconian, that it hardly
seems worth the work to do anything else.

========I'm in the middle of creating a database (pro bono) for a writer's
organization. It's a simple deal and will require little work -- but this is
already cropping up. These people will want their "writing" names with their
publications -- I'm thinking about just adding one more field to store their
"pen name" or whatever -- but then that becomes a nuisance if their name and
professional name are the same -- gotta fill in both or allow for the blanks
and go find the real name -- such a nuisance -- 

I think at this point the middle name is the best solution -- 

Susan H. 



From cfoust at infostatsystems.com  Thu Jun 23 10:50:47 2005
From: cfoust at infostatsystems.com (Charlotte Foust)
Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2005 08:50:47 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Normalizing issue
Message-ID: <E61FC1D4B1918244905B113C680BEA86873AC0@infoserver01.infostat.local>

Since it's a writer's database, a separate *table* for pen names makes a
lot of sense.  Some writers use multiple pen names, so creating a
pseudonym table is the safest way to handle that and relate it to the
writer's actual name.  You could always use the real name as the default
when filling in a pen name.

Charlotte Foust


-----Original Message-----
From: Susan Harkins [mailto:ssharkins at bellsouth.net] 
Sent: Thursday, June 23, 2005 8:43 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Normalizing issue


 
If it isn't a middle or maiden name, what is it?  This gets even more
tricky with non-English names where "last" names can get really
confusing.  I generally provide a field for first, middle, and last name
and make it the responsibility of the user to enter the appropriate
value in the appropriate field.  The rules for parsing this can become
so draconian, that it hardly seems worth the work to do anything else.

========I'm in the middle of creating a database (pro bono) for a
writer's organization. It's a simple deal and will require little work
-- but this is already cropping up. These people will want their
"writing" names with their publications -- I'm thinking about just
adding one more field to store their "pen name" or whatever -- but then
that becomes a nuisance if their name and professional name are the same
-- gotta fill in both or allow for the blanks and go find the real name
-- such a nuisance -- 

I think at this point the middle name is the best solution -- 

Susan H. 

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From prodevmg at yahoo.com  Thu Jun 23 10:53:27 2005
From: prodevmg at yahoo.com (Lonnie Johnson)
Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2005 08:53:27 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [AccessD] Normalizing issue
In-Reply-To: <20050623152456.MEOM25209.ibm63aec.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>
Message-ID: <20050623155327.10646.qmail@web33109.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Question:
 
What do you do if they actually have a middle name and two last names?

Susan Harkins <ssharkins at bellsouth.net> wrote:
I see your point -- but how do you handle those times when you're not
gleaning middle names, just first and last -- for instance, a simple mailing
list where you don't want to include middle names, but where the person
"goes by" Sales Harkins... You'd leave off Sales -- which isn't a crisis,
but could make some people mad. 

For me, Sales is just part of my writing name -- I don't use it officially
-- don't' sign anything with it, but it's an identifier. 

Years ago, I learned that another Susan Harkins was the editor of another
technical journal -- that was just too close for comfort -- I added the
Sales. 

Now, if you sent me a letter addressed to Susan Harkins, I wouldn't care or
get angry -- but some might. Is this worth considering? I suppose one answer
is to simply always use the middle name in all cases, but that seems
overkill. 

Susan H. 

I use middle name. My feeling is that no one cares if it's actually a last
name or middle name. Either way it's in the right place all the time if you
use a middle name field.

The question really is how is that person listed on legal documents. If,
for example, you are listed on your mortgage or social security (or
whatever) as Last name = Sales Harkins, First name = Susan then that's the
last name, but if you use it "unofficially" then I would make it a middle
name.

Reuben Cummings
GFC, LLC
phone: 812.523.1017
email: reuben at gfconsultants.com


-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Susan Harkins
Sent: Thursday, June 23, 2005 9:46 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Normalizing issue


So you both depend on the data entry person to enter Harkins Sales instead
of Sales Harkins?

That's interesting. ;)

Susan H.

The number of records that have a second last name vs those that don't
dosen't warrant our efforts to program around it. We put the burden of
keying it in properly on the business/clerical departments.


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From kwilliam at ashlandnet.com  Thu Jun 23 11:00:32 2005
From: kwilliam at ashlandnet.com (Keith Williamson)
Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2005 12:00:32 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] DateName Function
In-Reply-To: <000401c57808$736a8780$2f01a8c0@hargrove.internal>
Message-ID: <000001c5780c$afdcf000$64aba8c0@ashlandnet.com>

AAHHHHH!!  Never used that function.  PERFECT!!!

Thanks!!!!

Keith E. Williamson
Ashland Equipment, Inc
phone # (410) 273-1856
fax #     (410) 273-1859


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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Mike & Doris
Manning
Sent: Thursday, June 23, 2005 11:30 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] DateName Function


Use DatePart to get the month name instead.

Doris Manning
Database Administrator
Hargrove Inc.
www.hargroveinc.com

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Keith Williamson
Sent: Thursday, June 23, 2005 10:47 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] DateName Function


Anyone know how to deal with this?

I am collating data for daily sales.  The data I am given is total sales per
day, for the past three years.  Ideally I want to turn this into a graphic
comparing monthly sales for each year (ie.  3-dimensional comparison of each
month's sales, compared to prior history.)

The problem I am having is that I run a sum query to give me monthly sales,
for each year, using the month function (ie.  Month([date]) &
year([date])...and summarizing on that.)

What I wind up with is:
Expr1:Month([date]) field = 1, 2, 3, 4,....12
Expr2:Year([date]) field = 2003, 2004, 2005
SumofSales field = currency value of sales for that month/year

One row of data that might be returned:

1, 2003, 25000


Now ...I can make a graph of this...but it doesn't look good 1-2003 vs.
1-2004 vs. 1-2005

Obviously...I would rather it say January 2003 vs. January 2004 vs. January
2005

BUT>>>>  When I try to use the DateName Function on Month([date])
field....it doesn't work:

DateName([expr1])

When I run the query, I get a request for value dialogue box for Expr1.

Do I need to format the function a certain way to get it to calculate
DateName on a function(month([date])??

Thanks for any help!!!

Regards,

Keith E. Williamson
Ashland Equipment, Inc
phone # (410) 273-1856
fax #     (410) 273-1859



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From bchacc at san.rr.com  Thu Jun 23 11:25:31 2005
From: bchacc at san.rr.com (Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software)
Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2005 09:25:31 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Turn Off Help Box in Access 2003
Message-ID: <008701c57810$2cf39d20$6701a8c0@HAL9004>

Dear List:
In access 2003 up in the right corner by the maximize, minimize and close buttons there's a help box.  Does anyone know the syntax for turning this thing off through code?

MTIA

Rocky Smolin
Beach Access Software
http://www.e-z-mrp.com
858-259-4334


From reuben at gfconsultants.com  Thu Jun 23 11:38:34 2005
From: reuben at gfconsultants.com (Reuben Cummings)
Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2005 11:38:34 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Normalizing issue
In-Reply-To: <20050623152456.MEOM25209.ibm63aec.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>
Message-ID: <JKEJKMLAODCACEAIJLPAKECIDDAA.reuben@gfconsultants.com>

>>I see your point -- but how do you handle those times when you're not
	gleaning middle names, just first and last

>>What do you do if they actually have a middle name and two last names?

Again, I feel it depends on their legal name or how they register
themselves.  If someone is hell bent on being called Sales Harkins (sorry
Susan, but you are the best example we have going) then that should be
entered as the last name, IMO.

Of course, you could store the names in any manner and do something like
Outlook does where it automatically gives you options of how to store and
show the name.  I think this is the best way - to create a routine for
defining the name to use.

For example, my mom had an employee called Janine (last name Baxter).
However, she insisted that all writing to her or any she signed be done as
N. Janine Baxter.  In the example I am making above you could make the first
name N., middle name Janine, last name Baxter and then define it in a
separate procedure to print that way.

This is one of those never ending arguments, isn't it.  :)

Reuben Cummings
GFC, LLC
phone: 812.523.1017
email: reuben at gfconsultants.com


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Susan Harkins
Sent: Thursday, June 23, 2005 10:25 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Normalizing issue


I see your point -- but how do you handle those times when you're not
gleaning middle names, just first and last -- for instance, a simple mailing
list where you don't want to include middle names, but where the person
"goes by" Sales Harkins... You'd leave off Sales -- which isn't a crisis,
but could make some people mad.

For me, Sales is just part of my writing name -- I don't use it officially
-- don't' sign anything with it, but it's an identifier.

Years ago, I learned that another Susan Harkins was the editor of another
technical journal -- that was just too close for comfort -- I added the
Sales.

Now, if you sent me a letter addressed to Susan Harkins, I wouldn't care or
get angry -- but some might. Is this worth considering? I suppose one answer
is to simply always use the middle name in all cases, but that seems
overkill.

Susan H.

I use middle name.  My feeling is that no one cares if it's actually a last
name or middle name.  Either way it's in the right place all the time if you
use a middle name field.

The question really is how is that person listed on legal documents.  If,
for example, you are listed on your mortgage or social security (or
whatever) as Last name = Sales Harkins, First name = Susan then that's the
last name, but if you use it "unofficially" then I would make it a middle
name.

Reuben Cummings
GFC, LLC
phone: 812.523.1017
email: reuben at gfconsultants.com


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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Susan Harkins
Sent: Thursday, June 23, 2005 9:46 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Normalizing issue


So you both depend on the data entry person to enter Harkins Sales instead
of Sales Harkins?

That's interesting. ;)

Susan H.

The number of records that have a second last name vs those that don't
dosen't warrant our efforts to program around it. We put the burden of
keying it in properly on the business/clerical departments.


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From john at winhaven.net  Thu Jun 23 11:36:30 2005
From: john at winhaven.net (John Bartow)
Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2005 11:36:30 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Normalizing issue
In-Reply-To: <20050623154231.MOKU25209.ibm63aec.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>
Message-ID: <200506231636.j5NGaU81135946@pimout1-ext.prodigy.net>

Some cultures commonly use hyphenated names which include the maternal and
paternal names for offspring. Anyone on the list from such an area? Doesn't
Spain have one of those cultures?

John B.
 
If it isn't a middle or maiden name, what is it?  This gets even more tricky
with non-English names where "last" names can get really confusing.



From john at winhaven.net  Thu Jun 23 11:54:53 2005
From: john at winhaven.net (John Bartow)
Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2005 11:54:53 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Normalizing issue
In-Reply-To: <JKEJKMLAODCACEAIJLPAKECIDDAA.reuben@gfconsultants.com>
Message-ID: <200506231654.j5NGsrX0119546@pimout1-ext.prodigy.net>

I think so. But I hope you all come with a good answer to this so I can
store it in my tips & tricks db :o)

I've run into one really bad name example some years ago. I had an app that
tracked donors for an organization. The couple wanted BOTH of their names on
the address label and she used a hyphenated name but he didn't. Something
like "Joe Smith & Sue Jones-Smith".

I could have easily tracked them as individuals but they only wanted ONE
piece of mail.

I also could have also tracked them as an Organization or Business and used
"Joe Smith & Sue Jones-Smith" as an Organization name, with both of them
listed as contacts for the Organization but that didn't cover every single
instance of mailing and/or reports quite correctly and my customer didn't
want to offend any of their donors by accident.

I think we ended up putting his first & last name in the firstname field and
her first name and hyphenated last-name in the lastname field. Which of
course messed up the alphabetical internal lists of donors.

I considered adding a spousename field and doing some complicated queries to
get things correctly listed on the label but thankfully (for me anyway) they
left the area and quit donating to the organization - problem solved! So the
customer was happy and I quit thinking about it.

John B.


This is one of those never ending arguments, isn't it.  :)

Reuben Cummings
GFC, LLC
phone: 812.523.1017
email: reuben at gfconsultants.com



From ssharkins at bellsouth.net  Thu Jun 23 11:57:53 2005
From: ssharkins at bellsouth.net (Susan Harkins)
Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2005 12:57:53 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Normalizing issue
In-Reply-To: <E61FC1D4B1918244905B113C680BEA86873AC0@infoserver01.infostat.local>
Message-ID: <20050623165754.PKKR11957.ibm56aec.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>

I've been considering this, this morning and I think what I've finally come
up with is this:

A member name -- that's their real name -- which will relate to their books.
I "think" I will add a pen name field to the book table -- if they wrote the
name under another name, it'll be there for searches, write-up's, whatever.
But, there's only going to be one pen name for each book, so I think it's
safe to do this. What do you think? 

Susan H. 

Since it's a writer's database, a separate *table* for pen names makes a lot
of sense.  Some writers use multiple pen names, so creating a pseudonym
table is the safest way to handle that and relate it to the writer's actual
name.  You could always use the real name as the default when filling in a
pen name.

Charlotte Foust


-----Original Message-----
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Sent: Thursday, June 23, 2005 8:43 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Normalizing issue


 
If it isn't a middle or maiden name, what is it?  This gets even more
tricky with non-English names where "last" names can get really
confusing.  I generally provide a field for first, middle, and last name
and make it the responsibility of the user to enter the appropriate
value in the appropriate field.  The rules for parsing this can become
so draconian, that it hardly seems worth the work to do anything else.

========I'm in the middle of creating a database (pro bono) for a
writer's organization. It's a simple deal and will require little work
-- but this is already cropping up. These people will want their
"writing" names with their publications -- I'm thinking about just
adding one more field to store their "pen name" or whatever -- but then
that becomes a nuisance if their name and professional name are the same
-- gotta fill in both or allow for the blanks and go find the real name
-- such a nuisance -- 

I think at this point the middle name is the best solution -- 

Susan H. 

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From jimdettman at earthlink.net  Thu Jun 23 12:08:15 2005
From: jimdettman at earthlink.net (Jim Dettman)
Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2005 13:08:15 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Normalizing issue
In-Reply-To: <20050623165754.PKKR11957.ibm56aec.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>
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Susan,

  I'd second Charlotte's comment.  I'd definitely would have a field for a
pen name.

<<But, there's only going to be one pen name for each book, so I think it's
safe to do this. What do you think? >>

  No, because I might use the same pen name for many books.  If at some
point they want to know something like "when was this pen name created",
then your in trouble.

Should be:

tblMembers
MemberID
MemberName
DateCreated

tblPenNames
PenID
PenName
DateCreated
Bio

tblBooks
BookID
PenID

Jim.


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Susan Harkins
Sent: Thursday, June 23, 2005 12:58 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Normalizing issue


I've been considering this, this morning and I think what I've finally come
up with is this:

A member name -- that's their real name -- which will relate to their books.
I "think" I will add a pen name field to the book table -- if they wrote the
name under another name, it'll be there for searches, write-up's, whatever.
But, there's only going to be one pen name for each book, so I think it's
safe to do this. What do you think?

Susan H.

Since it's a writer's database, a separate *table* for pen names makes a lot
of sense.  Some writers use multiple pen names, so creating a pseudonym
table is the safest way to handle that and relate it to the writer's actual
name.  You could always use the real name as the default when filling in a
pen name.

Charlotte Foust


-----Original Message-----
From: Susan Harkins [mailto:ssharkins at bellsouth.net]
Sent: Thursday, June 23, 2005 8:43 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Normalizing issue



If it isn't a middle or maiden name, what is it?  This gets even more
tricky with non-English names where "last" names can get really
confusing.  I generally provide a field for first, middle, and last name
and make it the responsibility of the user to enter the appropriate
value in the appropriate field.  The rules for parsing this can become
so draconian, that it hardly seems worth the work to do anything else.

========I'm in the middle of creating a database (pro bono) for a
writer's organization. It's a simple deal and will require little work
-- but this is already cropping up. These people will want their
"writing" names with their publications -- I'm thinking about just
adding one more field to store their "pen name" or whatever -- but then
that becomes a nuisance if their name and professional name are the same
-- gotta fill in both or allow for the blanks and go find the real name
-- such a nuisance --

I think at this point the middle name is the best solution --

Susan H.

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From jimdettman at earthlink.net  Thu Jun 23 12:10:17 2005
From: jimdettman at earthlink.net (Jim Dettman)
Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2005 13:10:17 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Normalizing issue
In-Reply-To: <20050623165754.PKKR11957.ibm56aec.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>
Message-ID: <NDEALJOEGMMPCDKIFGNFIECLDKAA.jimdettman@earthlink.net>

Slight correction:

tblMembers
MemberID
MemberName
DateCreated

tblPenNames
PenID
MemberID
PenName
DateCreated
Bio

tblBooks
BookID
PenID

Jim.

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Susan Harkins
Sent: Thursday, June 23, 2005 12:58 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Normalizing issue


I've been considering this, this morning and I think what I've finally come
up with is this:

A member name -- that's their real name -- which will relate to their books.
I "think" I will add a pen name field to the book table -- if they wrote the
name under another name, it'll be there for searches, write-up's, whatever.
But, there's only going to be one pen name for each book, so I think it's
safe to do this. What do you think?

Susan H.

Since it's a writer's database, a separate *table* for pen names makes a lot
of sense.  Some writers use multiple pen names, so creating a pseudonym
table is the safest way to handle that and relate it to the writer's actual
name.  You could always use the real name as the default when filling in a
pen name.

Charlotte Foust


-----Original Message-----
From: Susan Harkins [mailto:ssharkins at bellsouth.net]
Sent: Thursday, June 23, 2005 8:43 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Normalizing issue



If it isn't a middle or maiden name, what is it?  This gets even more
tricky with non-English names where "last" names can get really
confusing.  I generally provide a field for first, middle, and last name
and make it the responsibility of the user to enter the appropriate
value in the appropriate field.  The rules for parsing this can become
so draconian, that it hardly seems worth the work to do anything else.

========I'm in the middle of creating a database (pro bono) for a
writer's organization. It's a simple deal and will require little work
-- but this is already cropping up. These people will want their
"writing" names with their publications -- I'm thinking about just
adding one more field to store their "pen name" or whatever -- but then
that becomes a nuisance if their name and professional name are the same
-- gotta fill in both or allow for the blanks and go find the real name
-- such a nuisance --

I think at this point the middle name is the best solution --

Susan H.

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From ssharkins at bellsouth.net  Thu Jun 23 12:10:42 2005
From: ssharkins at bellsouth.net (Susan Harkins)
Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2005 13:10:42 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Normalizing issue
In-Reply-To: <NDEALJOEGMMPCDKIFGNFMECKDKAA.jimdettman@earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <20050623171043.PSCL11957.ibm56aec.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>

Yes, a field for the book author name -- but a different table? 

I was considering that having it as a field in the book table makes it more
difficult to relate actual members with each author name -- as they may have
more than one. Most in this group aren't going to run into this -- but I'd
rather allow for it now than have it bite me in the butt. 

Susan H. 

Susan,

  I'd second Charlotte's comment.  I'd definitely would have a field for a
pen name.

<<But, there's only going to be one pen name for each book, so I think it's
safe to do this. What do you think? >>

  No, because I might use the same pen name for many books.  If at some
point they want to know something like "when was this pen name created",
then your in trouble.

Should be:

tblMembers
MemberID
MemberName
DateCreated

tblPenNames
PenID
PenName
DateCreated
Bio

tblBooks
BookID
PenID

Jim.


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Susan Harkins
Sent: Thursday, June 23, 2005 12:58 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Normalizing issue


I've been considering this, this morning and I think what I've finally come
up with is this:

A member name -- that's their real name -- which will relate to their books.
I "think" I will add a pen name field to the book table -- if they wrote the
name under another name, it'll be there for searches, write-up's, whatever.
But, there's only going to be one pen name for each book, so I think it's
safe to do this. What do you think?

Susan H.

Since it's a writer's database, a separate *table* for pen names makes a lot
of sense.  Some writers use multiple pen names, so creating a pseudonym
table is the safest way to handle that and relate it to the writer's actual
name.  You could always use the real name as the default when filling in a
pen name.

Charlotte Foust


-----Original Message-----
From: Susan Harkins [mailto:ssharkins at bellsouth.net]
Sent: Thursday, June 23, 2005 8:43 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Normalizing issue



If it isn't a middle or maiden name, what is it?  This gets even more tricky
with non-English names where "last" names can get really confusing.  I
generally provide a field for first, middle, and last name and make it the
responsibility of the user to enter the appropriate value in the appropriate
field.  The rules for parsing this can become so draconian, that it hardly
seems worth the work to do anything else.

========I'm in the middle of creating a database (pro bono) for a writer's
organization. It's a simple deal and will require little work
-- but this is already cropping up. These people will want their "writing"
names with their publications -- I'm thinking about just adding one more
field to store their "pen name" or whatever -- but then that becomes a
nuisance if their name and professional name are the same
-- gotta fill in both or allow for the blanks and go find the real name
-- such a nuisance --

I think at this point the middle name is the best solution --

Susan H.

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From ssharkins at bellsouth.net  Thu Jun 23 12:13:04 2005
From: ssharkins at bellsouth.net (Susan Harkins)
Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2005 13:13:04 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Normalizing issue
In-Reply-To: <NDEALJOEGMMPCDKIFGNFIECLDKAA.jimdettman@earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <20050623171307.PTPV11957.ibm56aec.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>

OK -- so you're relating the pen name table to the member name and then
relating the book table to the pen name table?

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim Dettman
Sent: Thursday, June 23, 2005 1:10 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Normalizing issue

Slight correction:

tblMembers
MemberID
MemberName
DateCreated

tblPenNames
PenID
MemberID
PenName
DateCreated
Bio

tblBooks
BookID
PenID

Jim.

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Susan Harkins
Sent: Thursday, June 23, 2005 12:58 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Normalizing issue


I've been considering this, this morning and I think what I've finally come
up with is this:

A member name -- that's their real name -- which will relate to their books.
I "think" I will add a pen name field to the book table -- if they wrote the
name under another name, it'll be there for searches, write-up's, whatever.
But, there's only going to be one pen name for each book, so I think it's
safe to do this. What do you think?

Susan H.

Since it's a writer's database, a separate *table* for pen names makes a lot
of sense.  Some writers use multiple pen names, so creating a pseudonym
table is the safest way to handle that and relate it to the writer's actual
name.  You could always use the real name as the default when filling in a
pen name.

Charlotte Foust


-----Original Message-----
From: Susan Harkins [mailto:ssharkins at bellsouth.net]
Sent: Thursday, June 23, 2005 8:43 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Normalizing issue



If it isn't a middle or maiden name, what is it?  This gets even more tricky
with non-English names where "last" names can get really confusing.  I
generally provide a field for first, middle, and last name and make it the
responsibility of the user to enter the appropriate value in the appropriate
field.  The rules for parsing this can become so draconian, that it hardly
seems worth the work to do anything else.

========I'm in the middle of creating a database (pro bono) for a writer's
organization. It's a simple deal and will require little work
-- but this is already cropping up. These people will want their "writing"
names with their publications -- I'm thinking about just adding one more
field to store their "pen name" or whatever -- but then that becomes a
nuisance if their name and professional name are the same
-- gotta fill in both or allow for the blanks and go find the real name
-- such a nuisance --

I think at this point the middle name is the best solution --

Susan H.

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From rl_stewart at highstream.net  Thu Jun 23 12:15:23 2005
From: rl_stewart at highstream.net (Robert L. Stewart)
Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2005 12:15:23 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Re: Normalizing issue
In-Reply-To: <200506231636.j5NGaYR14067@databaseadvisors.com>
References: <200506231636.j5NGaYR14067@databaseadvisors.com>
Message-ID: <6.2.1.2.2.20050623121254.0528a990@pop3.highstream.net>

Susan,


tblParty
PartyID

tblPartyAlias
PartyAliasID
PartyID
Company_Last_Name
Middle_Name
First_Name
Name_Suffix

Robert

At 11:36 AM 6/23/2005, you wrote:
>Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2005 09:59:59 -0400
>From: "Susan Harkins" <ssharkins at bellsouth.net>
>Subject: [AccessD] Normalizing issue
>To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'"
>         <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
>Message-ID: <20050623135959.FMWJ25470.ibm57aec.bellsouth.net at SUSANONE>
>Content-Type: text/plain;       charset="us-ascii"
>
>How do you guys deal with people that use three or more names
>professionally? I do -- Susan Sales Harkins.
>
>Do you store the second name with the first or use three fields? The middle
>name really isn't a "middle" name. It's actually part of the last name, but
>the last name is the real last name -- so if you stored it with the last
>name, you'd have to depend on users to enter it correctly, as in Harkins,
>Sales --  which is a mistake before you even get started... And how do you
>write in the flexibility that handles 2 or 3 names?
>
>Susan H.




From rl_stewart at highstream.net  Thu Jun 23 12:21:13 2005
From: rl_stewart at highstream.net (Robert L. Stewart)
Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2005 12:21:13 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Re: Normalizing issue
In-Reply-To: <200506231636.j5NGaYR14067@databaseadvisors.com>
References: <200506231636.j5NGaYR14067@databaseadvisors.com>
Message-ID: <6.2.1.2.2.20050623121942.05229bc8@pop3.highstream.net>

Or like my oldest son:

Robert Christopher Lawrence Stewart

2 middle names.

Not even the social security card shows both, it is C.L. on it.

At 11:36 AM 6/23/2005, you wrote:
>Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2005 08:53:27 -0700 (PDT)
>From: Lonnie Johnson <prodevmg at yahoo.com>
>Subject: RE: [AccessD] Normalizing issue
>To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
>         <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
>Message-ID: <20050623155327.10646.qmail at web33109.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
>Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
>
>Question:
>
>What do you do if they actually have a middle name and two last names?




From jimdettman at earthlink.net  Thu Jun 23 12:23:17 2005
From: jimdettman at earthlink.net (Jim Dettman)
Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2005 13:23:17 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Normalizing issue
In-Reply-To: <20050623171043.PSCL11957.ibm56aec.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>
Message-ID: <NDEALJOEGMMPCDKIFGNFIECNDKAA.jimdettman@earthlink.net>

Susan,

<<Yes, a field for the book author name -- but a different table?>>

  That's one of those tough calls.  Certainly it is possible that I would
have multiple pen names and with each name, may have multiple books.  That
makes me think a separate table right away.

  But also consider this:

tblMembers
MemberID
MemberName

tblBooks
BookID
MemberID
PenName

  I write five books and on the 5th one, the user types in "JMD" instead of
"JND" as the pen name on the book.

  Now when I ask the question, "how many books have been written as "JND"?",
I'll get the wrong answer.  The mistake would get caught if I looked at all
the books written under my member name, but only if they know that "JMD" is
a mistake and really not a different pen name.

  That would not happen with a separate table for the pseudonym's.

Jim.

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[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Susan Harkins
Sent: Thursday, June 23, 2005 1:11 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Normalizing issue


Yes, a field for the book author name -- but a different table?

I was considering that having it as a field in the book table makes it more
difficult to relate actual members with each author name -- as they may have
more than one. Most in this group aren't going to run into this -- but I'd
rather allow for it now than have it bite me in the butt.

Susan H.

Susan,

  I'd second Charlotte's comment.  I'd definitely would have a field for a
pen name.

<<But, there's only going to be one pen name for each book, so I think it's
safe to do this. What do you think? >>

  No, because I might use the same pen name for many books.  If at some
point they want to know something like "when was this pen name created",
then your in trouble.

Should be:

tblMembers
MemberID
MemberName
DateCreated

tblPenNames
PenID
PenName
DateCreated
Bio

tblBooks
BookID
PenID

Jim.


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Susan Harkins
Sent: Thursday, June 23, 2005 12:58 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Normalizing issue


I've been considering this, this morning and I think what I've finally come
up with is this:

A member name -- that's their real name -- which will relate to their books.
I "think" I will add a pen name field to the book table -- if they wrote the
name under another name, it'll be there for searches, write-up's, whatever.
But, there's only going to be one pen name for each book, so I think it's
safe to do this. What do you think?

Susan H.

Since it's a writer's database, a separate *table* for pen names makes a lot
of sense.  Some writers use multiple pen names, so creating a pseudonym
table is the safest way to handle that and relate it to the writer's actual
name.  You could always use the real name as the default when filling in a
pen name.

Charlotte Foust


-----Original Message-----
From: Susan Harkins [mailto:ssharkins at bellsouth.net]
Sent: Thursday, June 23, 2005 8:43 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Normalizing issue



If it isn't a middle or maiden name, what is it?  This gets even more tricky
with non-English names where "last" names can get really confusing.  I
generally provide a field for first, middle, and last name and make it the
responsibility of the user to enter the appropriate value in the appropriate
field.  The rules for parsing this can become so draconian, that it hardly
seems worth the work to do anything else.

========I'm in the middle of creating a database (pro bono) for a writer's
organization. It's a simple deal and will require little work
-- but this is already cropping up. These people will want their "writing"
names with their publications -- I'm thinking about just adding one more
field to store their "pen name" or whatever -- but then that becomes a
nuisance if their name and professional name are the same
-- gotta fill in both or allow for the blanks and go find the real name
-- such a nuisance --

I think at this point the middle name is the best solution --

Susan H.

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From jimdettman at earthlink.net  Thu Jun 23 12:23:17 2005
From: jimdettman at earthlink.net (Jim Dettman)
Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2005 13:23:17 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Normalizing issue
In-Reply-To: <20050623171307.PTPV11957.ibm56aec.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>
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<<OK -- so you're relating the pen name table to the member name and then
relating the book table to the pen name table?>>

  Yes.

Jim.

-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Susan Harkins
Sent: Thursday, June 23, 2005 1:13 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Normalizing issue


OK -- so you're relating the pen name table to the member name and then
relating the book table to the pen name table?

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim Dettman
Sent: Thursday, June 23, 2005 1:10 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Normalizing issue

Slight correction:

tblMembers
MemberID
MemberName
DateCreated

tblPenNames
PenID
MemberID
PenName
DateCreated
Bio

tblBooks
BookID
PenID

Jim.

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Susan Harkins
Sent: Thursday, June 23, 2005 12:58 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Normalizing issue


I've been considering this, this morning and I think what I've finally come
up with is this:

A member name -- that's their real name -- which will relate to their books.
I "think" I will add a pen name field to the book table -- if they wrote the
name under another name, it'll be there for searches, write-up's, whatever.
But, there's only going to be one pen name for each book, so I think it's
safe to do this. What do you think?

Susan H.

Since it's a writer's database, a separate *table* for pen names makes a lot
of sense.  Some writers use multiple pen names, so creating a pseudonym
table is the safest way to handle that and relate it to the writer's actual
name.  You could always use the real name as the default when filling in a
pen name.

Charlotte Foust


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Subject: RE: [AccessD] Normalizing issue



If it isn't a middle or maiden name, what is it?  This gets even more tricky
with non-English names where "last" names can get really confusing.  I
generally provide a field for first, middle, and last name and make it the
responsibility of the user to enter the appropriate value in the appropriate
field.  The rules for parsing this can become so draconian, that it hardly
seems worth the work to do anything else.

========I'm in the middle of creating a database (pro bono) for a writer's
organization. It's a simple deal and will require little work
-- but this is already cropping up. These people will want their "writing"
names with their publications -- I'm thinking about just adding one more
field to store their "pen name" or whatever -- but then that becomes a
nuisance if their name and professional name are the same
-- gotta fill in both or allow for the blanks and go find the real name
-- such a nuisance --

I think at this point the middle name is the best solution --

Susan H.

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From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com  Thu Jun 23 12:26:31 2005
From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (John W. Colby)
Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2005 13:26:31 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Just Checking....
In-Reply-To: <E61FC1D4B1918244905B113C680BEA86873ABE@infoserver01.infostat.local>
Message-ID: <000001c57818$b6055c40$6c7aa8c0@ColbyM6805>

Hey, the way I read it the muscle relaxants CAUSED the back spasms.  At
least she was blaming the spasms on the muscle relaxants.

;-)

John W. Colby
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Sent: Thursday, June 23, 2005 11:29 AM
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Um ... The muscle relaxants or the back spasms??

Charlotte Foust


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Please share

Joe Hecht
Los Angeles CA

Blame the muscle relaxants
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From rl_stewart at highstream.net  Thu Jun 23 12:33:24 2005
From: rl_stewart at highstream.net (Robert L. Stewart)
Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2005 12:33:24 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Re: Normalizing issue
In-Reply-To: <200506231700.j5NH0LR19895@databaseadvisors.com>
References: <200506231700.j5NH0LR19895@databaseadvisors.com>
Message-ID: <6.2.1.2.2.20050623122441.052b36d0@pop3.highstream.net>

In a normalized world, they are two parties with individual names that are 
related to each other by a specific type of relationship.  Translated to db 
design:

tblParty
PartyID
First_Name
Middle_Name
Last_Name
Name_Suffix

tblPartyAlias
PartyAliasID
PartyID
GoesByName

tblPartyRelationship
PartyRelationshipID
PartyID
RelatedPartyID
RelationshipType
RelationshipGreeting

In the case you listed below, the field RelationshipGreeting would hold the 
combination of their names the way they wanted them.  You could have it 
default to "Joe and Sue Smith" after setting a relationship type of 
spouse.  The edit it as needed for the special cases.  This model also 
incorporates an alias table to hold the solution to what Susan needs for 
her pen names.  All she would need to do is add a table to relate the pen 
names to the publisher for the articles being published.

Arguments aside, if you think the design through, you will not need to 
argue. :-)

Robert


At 12:00 PM 6/23/2005, you wrote:
>Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2005 11:54:53 -0500
>From: "John Bartow" <john at winhaven.net>
>Subject: RE: [AccessD] Normalizing issue
>To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'"
>         <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
>Message-ID: <200506231654.j5NGsrX0119546 at pimout1-ext.prodigy.net>
>Content-Type: text/plain;       charset="us-ascii"
>
>I think so. But I hope you all come with a good answer to this so I can
>store it in my tips & tricks db :o)
>
>I've run into one really bad name example some years ago. I had an app that
>tracked donors for an organization. The couple wanted BOTH of their names on
>the address label and she used a hyphenated name but he didn't. Something
>like "Joe Smith & Sue Jones-Smith".
>
>I could have easily tracked them as individuals but they only wanted ONE
>piece of mail.
>
>I also could have also tracked them as an Organization or Business and used
>"Joe Smith & Sue Jones-Smith" as an Organization name, with both of them
>listed as contacts for the Organization but that didn't cover every single
>instance of mailing and/or reports quite correctly and my customer didn't
>want to offend any of their donors by accident.
>
>I think we ended up putting his first & last name in the firstname field and
>her first name and hyphenated last-name in the lastname field. Which of
>course messed up the alphabetical internal lists of donors.
>
>I considered adding a spousename field and doing some complicated queries to
>get things correctly listed on the label but thankfully (for me anyway) they
>left the area and quit donating to the organization - problem solved! So the
>customer was happy and I quit thinking about it.
>
>John B.
>
>
>This is one of those never ending arguments, isn't it.  :)
>
>Reuben Cummings




From DWUTKA at marlow.com  Thu Jun 23 12:38:19 2005
From: DWUTKA at marlow.com (DWUTKA at marlow.com)
Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2005 12:38:19 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] FW: You have been unsubscribed from the Dba-exec mailing
	list
Message-ID: <123701F54509D9119A4F00D0B747349016D774@main2.marlow.com>

Just curious...why was I unsubscribed?  Have I been a bad boy or something?

Drew

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From rl_stewart at highstream.net  Thu Jun 23 12:36:45 2005
From: rl_stewart at highstream.net (Robert L. Stewart)
Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2005 12:36:45 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Re: Normalizing issue
In-Reply-To: <200506231700.j5NH0LR19895@databaseadvisors.com>
References: <200506231700.j5NH0LR19895@databaseadvisors.com>
Message-ID: <6.2.1.2.2.20050623123609.04d87b48@pop3.highstream.net>

Try the alias idea that I sent out a little earlier.  I think that would work.

At 12:00 PM 6/23/2005, you wrote:
>Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2005 12:57:53 -0400
>From: "Susan Harkins" <ssharkins at bellsouth.net>
>Subject: RE: [AccessD] Normalizing issue
>To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'"
>         <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
>Message-ID: <20050623165754.PKKR11957.ibm56aec.bellsouth.net at SUSANONE>
>Content-Type: text/plain;       charset="us-ascii"
>
>I've been considering this, this morning and I think what I've finally come
>up with is this:
>
>A member name -- that's their real name -- which will relate to their books.
>I "think" I will add a pen name field to the book table -- if they wrote the
>name under another name, it'll be there for searches, write-up's, whatever.
>But, there's only going to be one pen name for each book, so I think it's
>safe to do this. What do you think?
>
>Susan H.




From jmhecht at earthlink.net  Thu Jun 23 12:48:20 2005
From: jmhecht at earthlink.net (Joe Hecht)
Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2005 10:48:20 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Just Checking....
In-Reply-To: <E61FC1D4B1918244905B113C680BEA86873ABE@infoserver01.infostat.local>
Message-ID: <000101c5781b$bfaddda0$6401a8c0@laptop1>

The Meds

Joe Hecht
Los Angeles CA

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Sent: Thursday, June 23, 2005 8:29 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Just Checking....

Um ... The muscle relaxants or the back spasms??

Charlotte Foust


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Please share

Joe Hecht
Los Angeles CA

Blame the muscle relaxants
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From john at winhaven.net  Thu Jun 23 12:48:59 2005
From: john at winhaven.net (John Bartow)
Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2005 12:48:59 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] FW: You have been unsubscribed from the Dba-exec
	mailinglist
In-Reply-To: <123701F54509D9119A4F00D0B747349016D774@main2.marlow.com>
Message-ID: <200506231749.j5NHmxWJ424108@pimout2-ext.prodigy.net>

Actually added you by mistake when I was cleaning up the bod list. I clicked
on the wrong shortcut was working in dba-exec and didn't notice right away.

Have you gotten the BOD meeting request via the dba-bod list yet? 

John

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Just curious...why was I unsubscribed?  Have I been a bad boy or something?

Drew

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From john at winhaven.net  Thu Jun 23 12:48:59 2005
From: john at winhaven.net (John Bartow)
Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2005 12:48:59 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Just Checking....
In-Reply-To: <42BA5F98.8107.3B5AFA1@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>
Message-ID: <200506231749.j5NHmxWK424108@pimout2-ext.prodigy.net>

Ee-gads, sounds like a lot of work ahead
:-( 

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Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2005 4:07 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Just Checking....

On 22 Jun 2005 at 11:27, John W. Colby wrote:

> ROTFL.  Yea, I am getting old.
> 
> I am about to launch a field naming convention discussion so look out.  
> ;-)
> 

I've just been asked to taske over some apps which were developed in-house
by a certain organisation in PNG.

Most of them have a table called "MAIN TABLE" which is, believe it or not
the main table used for storing data.

So far I have also come across fields named DATE and NAME  as well as
several fields with 40-50 character fieldnames comprising multiple words
separated by spaces.





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From john at winhaven.net  Thu Jun 23 12:50:35 2005
From: john at winhaven.net (John Bartow)
Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2005 12:50:35 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Re: Normalizing issue
In-Reply-To: <6.2.1.2.2.20050623122441.052b36d0@pop3.highstream.net>
Message-ID: <200506231750.j5NHoZUh298656@pimout2-ext.prodigy.net>

Sounds good, I'm going to give this a whirl when I get a chance.
Thanks,
John B. 

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[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Robert L. Stewart
Sent: Thursday, June 23, 2005 12:33 PM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [AccessD] Re: Normalizing issue

In a normalized world, they are two parties with individual names that are
related to each other by a specific type of relationship.  Translated to db
design:

tblParty
PartyID
First_Name
Middle_Name
Last_Name
Name_Suffix

tblPartyAlias
PartyAliasID
PartyID
GoesByName

tblPartyRelationship
PartyRelationshipID
PartyID
RelatedPartyID
RelationshipType
RelationshipGreeting

In the case you listed below, the field RelationshipGreeting would hold the
combination of their names the way they wanted them.  You could have it
default to "Joe and Sue Smith" after setting a relationship type of spouse.
The edit it as needed for the special cases.  This model also incorporates
an alias table to hold the solution to what Susan needs for her pen names.
All she would need to do is add a table to relate the pen names to the
publisher for the articles being published.

Arguments aside, if you think the design through, you will not need to
argue. :-)

Robert


At 12:00 PM 6/23/2005, you wrote:
>Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2005 11:54:53 -0500
>From: "John Bartow" <john at winhaven.net>
>Subject: RE: [AccessD] Normalizing issue
>To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'"
>         <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
>Message-ID: <200506231654.j5NGsrX0119546 at pimout1-ext.prodigy.net>
>Content-Type: text/plain;       charset="us-ascii"
>
>I think so. But I hope you all come with a good answer to this so I can 
>store it in my tips & tricks db :o)
>
>I've run into one really bad name example some years ago. I had an app 
>that tracked donors for an organization. The couple wanted BOTH of 
>their names on the address label and she used a hyphenated name but he 
>didn't. Something like "Joe Smith & Sue Jones-Smith".
>
>I could have easily tracked them as individuals but they only wanted 
>ONE piece of mail.
>
>I also could have also tracked them as an Organization or Business and 
>used "Joe Smith & Sue Jones-Smith" as an Organization name, with both 
>of them listed as contacts for the Organization but that didn't cover 
>every single instance of mailing and/or reports quite correctly and my 
>customer didn't want to offend any of their donors by accident.
>
>I think we ended up putting his first & last name in the firstname 
>field and her first name and hyphenated last-name in the lastname 
>field. Which of course messed up the alphabetical internal lists of donors.
>
>I considered adding a spousename field and doing some complicated 
>queries to get things correctly listed on the label but thankfully (for 
>me anyway) they left the area and quit donating to the organization - 
>problem solved! So the customer was happy and I quit thinking about it.
>
>John B.
>
>
>This is one of those never ending arguments, isn't it.  :)
>
>Reuben Cummings


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From ssharkins at bellsouth.net  Thu Jun 23 12:51:11 2005
From: ssharkins at bellsouth.net (Susan Harkins)
Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2005 13:51:11 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Just Checking....
In-Reply-To: <200506231749.j5NHmxWK424108@pimout2-ext.prodigy.net>
Message-ID: <20050623175112.VXVF7767.ibm60aec.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>

I wonder if Stuart can say, "...show me the money!" :) 

Susan H. 

Ee-gads, sounds like a lot of work ahead :-( 

> I am about to launch a field naming convention discussion so look out.  
> ;-)



From cfoust at infostatsystems.com  Thu Jun 23 12:54:47 2005
From: cfoust at infostatsystems.com (Charlotte Foust)
Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2005 10:54:47 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Just Checking....
Message-ID: <E61FC1D4B1918244905B113C680BEA86873AC2@infoserver01.infostat.local>

Darn! LOL

Charlotte Foust

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Sent: Thursday, June 23, 2005 10:48 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Just Checking....


The Meds

Joe Hecht
Los Angeles CA

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Foust
Sent: Thursday, June 23, 2005 8:29 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Just Checking....

Um ... The muscle relaxants or the back spasms??

Charlotte Foust


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Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2005 9:55 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
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Please share

Joe Hecht
Los Angeles CA

Blame the muscle relaxants
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From ssharkins at bellsouth.net  Thu Jun 23 12:55:45 2005
From: ssharkins at bellsouth.net (Susan Harkins)
Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2005 13:55:45 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Re: Normalizing issue
In-Reply-To: <200506231750.j5NHoZUh298656@pimout2-ext.prodigy.net>
Message-ID: <20050623175546.WABL7767.ibm60aec.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>

The edit it as needed for the special cases.  This model also incorporates
an alias table to hold the solution to what Susan needs for her pen names.
All she would need to do is add a table to relate the pen names to the
publisher for the articles being published.

===========The alias is all  one field though -- right? I don't think that
would work for pen names as I can see a need for searching on pen name
(think Twain) rather than member name -- and a search for Twain isn't going
to work if the field is "Mark Twain"

Susan H. 



From jmhecht at earthlink.net  Thu Jun 23 12:56:11 2005
From: jmhecht at earthlink.net (Joe Hecht)
Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2005 10:56:11 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Field Naming ( Just once I want to be ahead of JC )
In-Reply-To: <009001c5775d$bb886830$6c7aa8c0@ColbyM6805>
Message-ID: <000201c5781c$d79f35c0$6401a8c0@laptop1>

So does this mean in your world developers should or should not set
relationships in the relationship window.

Joe Hecht
Los Angeles CA

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[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of John W. Colby
Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2005 12:08 PM
To: access at joe2.endjunk.com; 'Access Developers discussion and problem
solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Field Naming ( Just once I want to be ahead of JC )

The relationship window specifically.

John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com 

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[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Joe Hecht
Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2005 3:07 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Field Naming ( Just once I want to be ahead of JC )


John,

2) Relationship finding wizards are for wusses who don't create explicit
relationships (should be shot BTW).


I set relationships in either the relationship window or when I build
queries. Is that where you do it?

Have not seen a relationship finding Wizard?

Joe



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From cfoust at infostatsystems.com  Thu Jun 23 12:56:22 2005
From: cfoust at infostatsystems.com (Charlotte Foust)
Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2005 10:56:22 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Just Checking....
Message-ID: <E61FC1D4B1918244905B113C680BEA86873AC3@infoserver01.infostat.local>

NOT!  I was blaming the *typo* on the muscle relaxants! So there!  I
think.

Charlotte Foust


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From: John W. Colby [mailto:jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com] 
Sent: Thursday, June 23, 2005 10:27 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Just Checking....


Hey, the way I read it the muscle relaxants CAUSED the back spasms.  At
least she was blaming the spasms on the muscle relaxants.

;-)

John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com 

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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Charlotte
Foust
Sent: Thursday, June 23, 2005 11:29 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Just Checking....


Um ... The muscle relaxants or the back spasms??

Charlotte Foust


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From: Joe Hecht [mailto:jmhecht at earthlink.net] 
Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2005 9:55 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Just Checking....


Please share

Joe Hecht
Los Angeles CA

Blame the muscle relaxants
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From martyconnelly at shaw.ca  Thu Jun 23 13:14:51 2005
From: martyconnelly at shaw.ca (MartyConnelly)
Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2005 11:14:51 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Turn Off Help Box in Access 2003
References: <008701c57810$2cf39d20$6701a8c0@HAL9004>
Message-ID: <42BAFC1B.3070008@shaw.ca>

What's This? This property of the form  can only be turned on by default 
to Yes when MinMax property set to No
So just set Form property What's This to No.

Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software wrote:

>Dear List:
>In access 2003 up in the right corner by the maximize, minimize and close buttons there's a help box.  Does anyone know the syntax for turning this thing off through code?
>
>MTIA
>
>Rocky Smolin
>Beach Access Software
>http://www.e-z-mrp.com
>858-259-4334
>  
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From jmhecht at earthlink.net  Thu Jun 23 13:15:12 2005
From: jmhecht at earthlink.net (Joe Hecht)
Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2005 11:15:12 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Normalizing issue
In-Reply-To: <200506231654.j5NGsrX0119546@pimout1-ext.prodigy.net>
Message-ID: <000301c5781f$7fce8f50$6401a8c0@laptop1>

In Designing my invitations tracking DB I looked at today's culture and now
have fields for 2 sets of first, middle and last names. I am still working
out the code for it but the basics would work here.

Joe Hecht
Los Angeles CA

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I think so. But I hope you all come with a good answer to this so I can
store it in my tips & tricks db :o)

I've run into one really bad name example some years ago. I had an app that
tracked donors for an organization. The couple wanted BOTH of their names on
the address label and she used a hyphenated name but he didn't. Something
like "Joe Smith & Sue Jones-Smith".

I could have easily tracked them as individuals but they only wanted ONE
piece of mail.

I also could have also tracked them as an Organization or Business and used
"Joe Smith & Sue Jones-Smith" as an Organization name, with both of them
listed as contacts for the Organization but that didn't cover every single
instance of mailing and/or reports quite correctly and my customer didn't
want to offend any of their donors by accident.

I think we ended up putting his first & last name in the firstname field and
her first name and hyphenated last-name in the lastname field. Which of
course messed up the alphabetical internal lists of donors.

I considered adding a spousename field and doing some complicated queries to
get things correctly listed on the label but thankfully (for me anyway) they
left the area and quit donating to the organization - problem solved! So the
customer was happy and I quit thinking about it.

John B.


This is one of those never ending arguments, isn't it.  :)

Reuben Cummings
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From ssharkins at bellsouth.net  Thu Jun 23 13:28:24 2005
From: ssharkins at bellsouth.net (Susan Harkins)
Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2005 14:28:24 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Normalizing issue
In-Reply-To: <NDEALJOEGMMPCDKIFGNFKECNDKAA.jimdettman@earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <20050623182824.MXAF11273.ibm67aec.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>

This is really getting much more complicated than I had planned. Now I have
to figure out how to deal with books versus articles. :) I thought about one
table that id's each publication as a book, article, etc. but I have one
problem. 

Books are usually in or out of print and that just doesn't apply for
articles. If I use a Yes/No for InPrint, then I've got records when an
inappropriate value -- No for magazines isn't really correct. I could use a
tri-state Yes/No I guess, and put Null to work, but ug... 

I can have a separate table that stores only book InPrint field. Or, I can
just use two different tables, one for books, for mags. 

Susan H.  

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<<OK -- so you're relating the pen name table to the member name and then
relating the book table to the pen name table?>>

  Yes.

Jim.

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Sent: Thursday, June 23, 2005 1:13 PM
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OK -- so you're relating the pen name table to the member name and then
relating the book table to the pen name table?

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Sent: Thursday, June 23, 2005 1:10 PM
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Slight correction:

tblMembers
MemberID
MemberName
DateCreated

tblPenNames
PenID
MemberID
PenName
DateCreated
Bio

tblBooks
BookID
PenID

Jim.

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I've been considering this, this morning and I think what I've finally come
up with is this:

A member name -- that's their real name -- which will relate to their books.
I "think" I will add a pen name field to the book table -- if they wrote the
name under another name, it'll be there for searches, write-up's, whatever.
But, there's only going to be one pen name for each book, so I think it's
safe to do this. What do you think?

Susan H.

Since it's a writer's database, a separate *table* for pen names makes a lot
of sense.  Some writers use multiple pen names, so creating a pseudonym
table is the safest way to handle that and relate it to the writer's actual
name.  You could always use the real name as the default when filling in a
pen name.

Charlotte Foust


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If it isn't a middle or maiden name, what is it?  This gets even more tricky
with non-English names where "last" names can get really confusing.  I
generally provide a field for first, middle, and last name and make it the
responsibility of the user to enter the appropriate value in the appropriate
field.  The rules for parsing this can become so draconian, that it hardly
seems worth the work to do anything else.

========I'm in the middle of creating a database (pro bono) for a writer's
organization. It's a simple deal and will require little work
-- but this is already cropping up. These people will want their "writing"
names with their publications -- I'm thinking about just adding one more
field to store their "pen name" or whatever -- but then that becomes a
nuisance if their name and professional name are the same
-- gotta fill in both or allow for the blanks and go find the real name
-- such a nuisance --

I think at this point the middle name is the best solution --

Susan H.

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From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com  Thu Jun 23 13:28:45 2005
From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (John W. Colby)
Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2005 14:28:45 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Field Naming ( Just once I want to be ahead of JC )
In-Reply-To: <000201c5781c$d79f35c0$6401a8c0@laptop1>
Message-ID: <000301c57821$67019ce0$6c7aa8c0@ColbyM6805>

Absolutely should.  If a relationship exists, and you care about referential
integrity, the database engine should enforce it where possible.

John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com 

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http://folding.stanford.edu/

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[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Joe Hecht
Sent: Thursday, June 23, 2005 1:56 PM
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So does this mean in your world developers should or should not set
relationships in the relationship window.

Joe Hecht
Los Angeles CA

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The relationship window specifically.

John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com 

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John,

2) Relationship finding wizards are for wusses who don't create explicit
relationships (should be shot BTW).


I set relationships in either the relationship window or when I build
queries. Is that where you do it?

Have not seen a relationship finding Wizard?

Joe



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From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com  Thu Jun 23 13:30:17 2005
From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (John W. Colby)
Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2005 14:30:17 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Just Checking....
In-Reply-To: <200506231749.j5NHmxWK424108@pimout2-ext.prodigy.net>
Message-ID: <000401c57821$9ae3ee50$6c7aa8c0@ColbyM6805>

Yep, it sure does.  And of course the last developer to touch the db is
responsible for ALL problems.

John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com 

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Ee-gads, sounds like a lot of work ahead
:-( 

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Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2005 4:07 PM
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On 22 Jun 2005 at 11:27, John W. Colby wrote:

> ROTFL.  Yea, I am getting old.
> 
> I am about to launch a field naming convention discussion so look out.
> ;-)
> 

I've just been asked to taske over some apps which were developed in-house
by a certain organisation in PNG.

Most of them have a table called "MAIN TABLE" which is, believe it or not
the main table used for storing data.

So far I have also come across fields named DATE and NAME  as well as
several fields with 40-50 character fieldnames comprising multiple words
separated by spaces.





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From reuben at gfconsultants.com  Thu Jun 23 13:44:17 2005
From: reuben at gfconsultants.com (Reuben Cummings)
Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2005 13:44:17 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Re: Normalizing issue
In-Reply-To: <6.2.1.2.2.20050623121942.05229bc8@pop3.highstream.net>
Message-ID: <JKEJKMLAODCACEAIJLPAOECNDDAA.reuben@gfconsultants.com>

I feel your pain Robert.

My son's full name is Tiller Ried James Bennet Louise Karnes Cummings (my
wife handled the naming while I wasn't at the hospital).  His SS card shows
Tiller RJBLK Cummings

My daughters are Delaney Annabelle Lee Cummings and Cali Clarabelle Rose
Cummings.

My wife likes long names although niether of us have more than one middle
name.

Reuben Cummings
GFC, LLC
phone: 812.523.1017
email: reuben at gfconsultants.com


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Stewart
Sent: Thursday, June 23, 2005 12:21 PM
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Subject: [AccessD] Re: Normalizing issue


Or like my oldest son:

Robert Christopher Lawrence Stewart

2 middle names.

Not even the social security card shows both, it is C.L. on it.

At 11:36 AM 6/23/2005, you wrote:
>Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2005 08:53:27 -0700 (PDT)
>From: Lonnie Johnson <prodevmg at yahoo.com>
>Subject: RE: [AccessD] Normalizing issue
>To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
>         <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
>Message-ID: <20050623155327.10646.qmail at web33109.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
>Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
>
>Question:
>
>What do you do if they actually have a middle name and two last names?


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From artful at rogers.com  Thu Jun 23 14:25:49 2005
From: artful at rogers.com (Arthur Fuller)
Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2005 15:25:49 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Exit Access with an error code?
In-Reply-To: <JKEJKMLAODCACEAIJLPAOECNDDAA.reuben@gfconsultants.com>
Message-ID: <200506231925.j5NJPoR22825@databaseadvisors.com>

Can anyone tell me how to do this? Assume two cases, to be decided upon
examination of a recordset's single row return value. In case one, I want to
exit Access with an error code of [any value you like, other than zero]. In
case two, I don't want to exit until the user actually exits gracefully (in
which case the exit value would presumably be zero).

Suggestions?

TIA,
Arthur



From DWUTKA at marlow.com  Thu Jun 23 14:30:16 2005
From: DWUTKA at marlow.com (DWUTKA at marlow.com)
Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2005 14:30:16 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] FW: You have been unsubscribed from the Dba-exec ma
	ilinglist
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Nope.

Drew

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Actually added you by mistake when I was cleaning up the bod list. I clicked
on the wrong shortcut was working in dba-exec and didn't notice right away.

Have you gotten the BOD meeting request via the dba-bod list yet? 

John

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Just curious...why was I unsubscribed?  Have I been a bad boy or something?

Drew

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From artful at rogers.com  Thu Jun 23 14:34:13 2005
From: artful at rogers.com (Arthur Fuller)
Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2005 15:34:13 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Re: Normalizing issue
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Message-ID: <200506231934.j5NJYDR24700@databaseadvisors.com>

You wimps don't know the meaning of long names! LOL. The record for longest
given name sequence belongs to a German immigrant to Philadelphia. His given
names were:

Adolph Blaine Charles David Earl Frederick Gerald Hubert 
Irvim John Kenneth Loyd Martin Nero Oliver Paul Quincy 
Randolph Sherman Thomas Uncas Victor Willian Xerxes Yancy 
Zeus

In case you missed it, he's got one name for each letter in the alphabet.
But his surname is even more hilarious:

Surname:
Wolfeschlegelsteinhausenbergerdorffvoralternwarengewissenhaf
tschaferswesenchafewarenwholgepflegeundsorgfaltigkeitbeschut
zenvonangereifenduchihrraubgiriigfeindewelchevorralternzwolf
tausendjahresvorandieerscheinenbanderersteerdeemmeshedrraums
chiffgebrauchlichtalsseinursprungvonkraftgestartseinlangefah
rthinzwischensternartigraumaufdersuchenachdiesternwelshegeha
btbewohnbarplanetenkreisedrehensichundwohinderneurassevanver
standigmenshlichkeittkonntevortpflanzenundsicherfreunanleben
slamdlichfreudeundruhemitnichteinfurchtvorangreifenvonandere
rintlligentgeschopfsvonhinzwischensternartigraum

Senior

It's gonna take one or more of our German listers to make sense out of this
surname! We German-challenged folk have no idea what this might mean.

Arthur


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Subject: RE: [AccessD] Re: Normalizing issue

I feel your pain Robert.

My son's full name is Tiller Ried James Bennet Louise Karnes Cummings (my
wife handled the naming while I wasn't at the hospital).  His SS card shows
Tiller RJBLK Cummings

My daughters are Delaney Annabelle Lee Cummings and Cali Clarabelle Rose
Cummings.

My wife likes long names although niether of us have more than one middle
name.

Reuben Cummings
GFC, LLC
phone: 812.523.1017
email: reuben at gfconsultants.com


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Stewart
Sent: Thursday, June 23, 2005 12:21 PM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [AccessD] Re: Normalizing issue


Or like my oldest son:

Robert Christopher Lawrence Stewart

2 middle names.

Not even the social security card shows both, it is C.L. on it.

At 11:36 AM 6/23/2005, you wrote:
>Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2005 08:53:27 -0700 (PDT)
>From: Lonnie Johnson <prodevmg at yahoo.com>
>Subject: RE: [AccessD] Normalizing issue
>To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
>         <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
>Message-ID: <20050623155327.10646.qmail at web33109.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
>Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
>
>Question:
>
>What do you do if they actually have a middle name and two last names?


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From jimdettman at earthlink.net  Thu Jun 23 14:35:16 2005
From: jimdettman at earthlink.net (Jim Dettman)
Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2005 15:35:16 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Normalizing issue
In-Reply-To: <20050623182824.MXAF11273.ibm67aec.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>
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Susan,

 <<Books are usually in or out of print and that just doesn't apply for
articles. If I use a Yes/No for InPrint, then I've got records when an
inappropriate value -- No for magazines isn't really correct. I could use a
tri-state Yes/No I guess, and put Null to work, but ug... >>

  Not understanding the publishing business, I'm not sure I fully understand
what the problem is.

  But I guess it depends on how hung up you are on following rules.  You can
go the simple route and have one table for publications and include the
field InPrint and inherent in the interface is that fact that it only
applies to books (ie. you hide the control if it's not a book).  That's
basically a no-no as you said, as all fields really don't pertain to what
your supposed to be describing (a publication).

  The next step would be to have a separate table for each publication type;
one for books, one for mag's, video's etc.  Then each table only contains
the fields that pertain to the type of thing your trying to describe.

  Last you can go all out and describe the object, it's attributes, and the
values for those attributes.  For example:

tblPublicationTypes - List of all possible publication types (book, mag,
article, documentary video, etc).
PubTypeID
Description

tblAttributes - List of all possible attributes that any publication might
have.
AttribID - PK
Description

tblPubTypeAttributes - One record for each PubType / Attribute Combination -
So this is a list of attributes for a specific type of publication.
PubTypeAttribID - PK
PubTypeID - FK-A
AttribID - FK-B

tblPublications - one record per publication
PubID - PK
PubTypeID - FK
Name

tblPublicationsValues - One record for each attribute for the type of
publication that holds the actual value.
PubValueID - PK
PubID - FK-A
PubTypeAttribID - FK-B
Value


  An example:

tblPublicationTypes

PubTypeID       Description
1               Book
2               Mag
3               Video


tblAttributes

AttribID  Description
1         Title
2         Date Created
3         In Print
4         Media format
5         Author
6         Publication Date
7         Director


tblPubTypeAttributes

PubTypeAttribID     PubTypeID      AttribID
1                      1              1
2                      1              2
3                      1              3
4                      1              5
5                      1              6
6                      2              1
7                      2              2
8                      2              5
9                      2              6
10                     3              1
11                     3              2
12                     3              4
13                     3              6
14                     3              7


  So books have the attributes: Title, Date Created, In Print, Author, and
publication date.
  Mag has: Title, Date Created, Author, Publication date.
  Video has: Title, Date Created, Media Format, Publication Date, and
Director.


tblPublications - one record per publication
PubID          PubTypeID
1                 1
2                 1
3                 2
4                 3
5                 3

  So we have 2 books, 1 mag, and 2 videos listed.

tblPublicationsValues
PubValueID        PubID        PubTypeAttribID                     Value
1                   1                1                  "Jim's First Access
Book"
2                   1                2                  06/15/05
3                   1                3                  Yes
4                   1                4                  "JND"
5                   1                5                  06/18/05
6                   2                1                  "Jim's Second Access
Book"
7                   2                2                  06/19/05
8                   2                3                  No
9                   2                4                  "JND"
10                  2                5                  <NULL>
11                  3                6                  "Spy vs Spy"
12                  3                7                  02/01/05
13                  3                8                  "JRD"
14                  3                9                  02/10/05
15                  4                10                 "eXtreme Skiing"
16                  4                11                 01/01/00
17                  4                12                 "AVI"
18                  4                13                 01/01/01
19                  4                14                 "Spielberg"
20                  5                10                 "Sky Diving For
beginers"
21                  5                11                 01/01/99
22                  5                12                 "35 mm"
23                  5                13                 01/01/00
24                  5                14                 "JK Rowling"


  Whew...think I got all that right.  This design is the ultimate in
flexability, but certainly the most complex to implement.  Without any
changes in programming, you can add a new type of "thing" to the database
without breaking any normalization rules.  Then add instances of those
things and assign values to the attributes of them.

  Two notes:

1. Some might also add to the attribute table or as a seperate table a range
of possible values that an attribute can have.
2. They layout above is for someone who believes in surrogate keys.  I
wouldn't do it that way myself, but simplify a bit.

Jim.



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[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Susan Harkins
Sent: Thursday, June 23, 2005 2:28 PM
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Subject: RE: [AccessD] Normalizing issue


This is really getting much more complicated than I had planned. Now I have
to figure out how to deal with books versus articles. :) I thought about one
table that id's each publication as a book, article, etc. but I have one
problem.

Books are usually in or out of print and that just doesn't apply for
articles. If I use a Yes/No for InPrint, then I've got records when an
inappropriate value -- No for magazines isn't really correct. I could use a
tri-state Yes/No I guess, and put Null to work, but ug...

I can have a separate table that stores only book InPrint field. Or, I can
just use two different tables, one for books, for mags.

Susan H.

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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim Dettman
Sent: Thursday, June 23, 2005 1:23 PM
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<<OK -- so you're relating the pen name table to the member name and then
relating the book table to the pen name table?>>

  Yes.

Jim.

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[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Susan Harkins
Sent: Thursday, June 23, 2005 1:13 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Normalizing issue


OK -- so you're relating the pen name table to the member name and then
relating the book table to the pen name table?

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim Dettman
Sent: Thursday, June 23, 2005 1:10 PM
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Slight correction:

tblMembers
MemberID
MemberName
DateCreated

tblPenNames
PenID
MemberID
PenName
DateCreated
Bio

tblBooks
BookID
PenID

Jim.

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Sent: Thursday, June 23, 2005 12:58 PM
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I've been considering this, this morning and I think what I've finally come
up with is this:

A member name -- that's their real name -- which will relate to their books.
I "think" I will add a pen name field to the book table -- if they wrote the
name under another name, it'll be there for searches, write-up's, whatever.
But, there's only going to be one pen name for each book, so I think it's
safe to do this. What do you think?

Susan H.

Since it's a writer's database, a separate *table* for pen names makes a lot
of sense.  Some writers use multiple pen names, so creating a pseudonym
table is the safest way to handle that and relate it to the writer's actual
name.  You could always use the real name as the default when filling in a
pen name.

Charlotte Foust


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Sent: Thursday, June 23, 2005 8:43 AM
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If it isn't a middle or maiden name, what is it?  This gets even more tricky
with non-English names where "last" names can get really confusing.  I
generally provide a field for first, middle, and last name and make it the
responsibility of the user to enter the appropriate value in the appropriate
field.  The rules for parsing this can become so draconian, that it hardly
seems worth the work to do anything else.

========I'm in the middle of creating a database (pro bono) for a writer's
organization. It's a simple deal and will require little work
-- but this is already cropping up. These people will want their "writing"
names with their publications -- I'm thinking about just adding one more
field to store their "pen name" or whatever -- but then that becomes a
nuisance if their name and professional name are the same
-- gotta fill in both or allow for the blanks and go find the real name
-- such a nuisance --

I think at this point the middle name is the best solution --

Susan H.

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From john at winhaven.net  Thu Jun 23 14:37:19 2005
From: john at winhaven.net (John Bartow)
Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2005 14:37:19 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] FW: You have been unsubscribed from the Dba-exec
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OK, I'll unsub you from dba-bod and resub you. You should get a welcome and
then shortly after you should get the invite to the meeting.

John 

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Nope.

Drew

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Actually added you by mistake when I was cleaning up the bod list. I clicked
on the wrong shortcut was working in dba-exec and didn't notice right away.

Have you gotten the BOD meeting request via the dba-bod list yet? 

John

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Just curious...why was I unsubscribed?  Have I been a bad boy or something?

Drew

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From dmcafee at pacbell.net  Thu Jun 23 14:38:57 2005
From: dmcafee at pacbell.net (dmcafee at pacbell.net)
Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2005 12:38:57 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Re: Normalizing issue
In-Reply-To: <200506231934.j5NJYDR24700@databaseadvisors.com>
Message-ID: <KDEHKEMIOHGKCDHLPPLKOEMMFFAA.dmcafee@pacbell.net>

I wonder if they nicknamed him "Alfie", short for alphabet ;)

D

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You wimps don't know the meaning of long names! LOL. The record for longest
given name sequence belongs to a German immigrant to Philadelphia. His given
names were:

Adolph Blaine Charles David Earl Frederick Gerald Hubert
Irvim John Kenneth Loyd Martin Nero Oliver Paul Quincy
Randolph Sherman Thomas Uncas Victor Willian Xerxes Yancy
Zeus

In case you missed it, he's got one name for each letter in the alphabet.
But his surname is even more hilarious:

Surname:
Wolfeschlegelsteinhausenbergerdorffvoralternwarengewissenhaf
tschaferswesenchafewarenwholgepflegeundsorgfaltigkeitbeschut
zenvonangereifenduchihrraubgiriigfeindewelchevorralternzwolf
tausendjahresvorandieerscheinenbanderersteerdeemmeshedrraums
chiffgebrauchlichtalsseinursprungvonkraftgestartseinlangefah
rthinzwischensternartigraumaufdersuchenachdiesternwelshegeha
btbewohnbarplanetenkreisedrehensichundwohinderneurassevanver
standigmenshlichkeittkonntevortpflanzenundsicherfreunanleben
slamdlichfreudeundruhemitnichteinfurchtvorangreifenvonandere
rintlligentgeschopfsvonhinzwischensternartigraum

Senior

It's gonna take one or more of our German listers to make sense out of this
surname! We German-challenged folk have no idea what this might mean.

Arthur


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I feel your pain Robert.

My son's full name is Tiller Ried James Bennet Louise Karnes Cummings (my
wife handled the naming while I wasn't at the hospital).  His SS card shows
Tiller RJBLK Cummings

My daughters are Delaney Annabelle Lee Cummings and Cali Clarabelle Rose
Cummings.

My wife likes long names although niether of us have more than one middle
name.

Reuben Cummings
GFC, LLC
phone: 812.523.1017
email: reuben at gfconsultants.com


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Stewart
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Or like my oldest son:

Robert Christopher Lawrence Stewart

2 middle names.

Not even the social security card shows both, it is C.L. on it.

At 11:36 AM 6/23/2005, you wrote:
>Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2005 08:53:27 -0700 (PDT)
>From: Lonnie Johnson <prodevmg at yahoo.com>
>Subject: RE: [AccessD] Normalizing issue
>To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
>         <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
>Message-ID: <20050623155327.10646.qmail at web33109.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
>Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
>
>Question:
>
>What do you do if they actually have a middle name and two last names?


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From ssharkins at bellsouth.net  Thu Jun 23 14:38:59 2005
From: ssharkins at bellsouth.net (Susan Harkins)
Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2005 15:38:59 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Normalizing issue
In-Reply-To: <NDEALJOEGMMPCDKIFGNFKEDIDKAA.jimdettman@earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <20050623193900.PGRZ8050.ibm62aec.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>

Jim, I've already gone with separate tables because I got to thinking -- as
this things grow I may run into other data that doesn't fit both books and
magazines -- 

Right now, we're just kind of playing with this. But if it works well and is
flexible, a lot of different regions could end up using it -- so the more
problems I resolve now, the better. 

Susan H. 

Susan,

 <<Books are usually in or out of print and that just doesn't apply for
articles. If I use a Yes/No for InPrint, then I've got records when an
inappropriate value -- No for magazines isn't really correct. I could use a
tri-state Yes/No I guess, and put Null to work, but ug... >>

  Not understanding the publishing business, I'm not sure I fully understand
what the problem is.

  But I guess it depends on how hung up you are on following rules.  You can
go the simple route and have one table for publications and include the
field InPrint and inherent in the interface is that fact that it only
applies to books (ie. you hide the control if it's not a book).  That's
basically a no-no as you said, as all fields really don't pertain to what
your supposed to be describing (a publication).

  The next step would be to have a separate table for each publication type;
one for books, one for mag's, video's etc.  Then each table only contains
the fields that pertain to the type of thing your trying to describe.

  Last you can go all out and describe the object, it's attributes, and the
values for those attributes.  For example:

tblPublicationTypes - List of all possible publication types (book, mag,
article, documentary video, etc).
PubTypeID
Description

tblAttributes - List of all possible attributes that any publication might
have.
AttribID - PK
Description

tblPubTypeAttributes - One record for each PubType / Attribute Combination -
So this is a list of attributes for a specific type of publication.
PubTypeAttribID - PK
PubTypeID - FK-A
AttribID - FK-B

tblPublications - one record per publication PubID - PK PubTypeID - FK Name

tblPublicationsValues - One record for each attribute for the type of
publication that holds the actual value.
PubValueID - PK
PubID - FK-A
PubTypeAttribID - FK-B
Value


  An example:

tblPublicationTypes

PubTypeID       Description
1               Book
2               Mag
3               Video


tblAttributes

AttribID  Description
1         Title
2         Date Created
3         In Print
4         Media format
5         Author
6         Publication Date
7         Director


tblPubTypeAttributes

PubTypeAttribID     PubTypeID      AttribID
1                      1              1
2                      1              2
3                      1              3
4                      1              5
5                      1              6
6                      2              1
7                      2              2
8                      2              5
9                      2              6
10                     3              1
11                     3              2
12                     3              4
13                     3              6
14                     3              7


  So books have the attributes: Title, Date Created, In Print, Author, and
publication date.
  Mag has: Title, Date Created, Author, Publication date.
  Video has: Title, Date Created, Media Format, Publication Date, and
Director.


tblPublications - one record per publication
PubID          PubTypeID
1                 1
2                 1
3                 2
4                 3
5                 3

  So we have 2 books, 1 mag, and 2 videos listed.

tblPublicationsValues
PubValueID        PubID        PubTypeAttribID                     Value
1                   1                1                  "Jim's First Access
Book"
2                   1                2                  06/15/05
3                   1                3                  Yes
4                   1                4                  "JND"
5                   1                5                  06/18/05
6                   2                1                  "Jim's Second Access
Book"
7                   2                2                  06/19/05
8                   2                3                  No
9                   2                4                  "JND"
10                  2                5                  <NULL>
11                  3                6                  "Spy vs Spy"
12                  3                7                  02/01/05
13                  3                8                  "JRD"
14                  3                9                  02/10/05
15                  4                10                 "eXtreme Skiing"
16                  4                11                 01/01/00
17                  4                12                 "AVI"
18                  4                13                 01/01/01
19                  4                14                 "Spielberg"
20                  5                10                 "Sky Diving For
beginers"
21                  5                11                 01/01/99
22                  5                12                 "35 mm"
23                  5                13                 01/01/00
24                  5                14                 "JK Rowling"


  Whew...think I got all that right.  This design is the ultimate in
flexability, but certainly the most complex to implement.  Without any
changes in programming, you can add a new type of "thing" to the database
without breaking any normalization rules.  Then add instances of those
things and assign values to the attributes of them.

  Two notes:

1. Some might also add to the attribute table or as a seperate table a range
of possible values that an attribute can have.
2. They layout above is for someone who believes in surrogate keys.  I
wouldn't do it that way myself, but simplify a bit.

Jim.



-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Susan Harkins
Sent: Thursday, June 23, 2005 2:28 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Normalizing issue


This is really getting much more complicated than I had planned. Now I have
to figure out how to deal with books versus articles. :) I thought about one
table that id's each publication as a book, article, etc. but I have one
problem.

Books are usually in or out of print and that just doesn't apply for
articles. If I use a Yes/No for InPrint, then I've got records when an
inappropriate value -- No for magazines isn't really correct. I could use a
tri-state Yes/No I guess, and put Null to work, but ug...

I can have a separate table that stores only book InPrint field. Or, I can
just use two different tables, one for books, for mags.

Susan H.

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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim Dettman
Sent: Thursday, June 23, 2005 1:23 PM
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<<OK -- so you're relating the pen name table to the member name and then
relating the book table to the pen name table?>>

  Yes.

Jim.

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[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Susan Harkins
Sent: Thursday, June 23, 2005 1:13 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Normalizing issue


OK -- so you're relating the pen name table to the member name and then
relating the book table to the pen name table?

-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim Dettman
Sent: Thursday, June 23, 2005 1:10 PM
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Slight correction:

tblMembers
MemberID
MemberName
DateCreated

tblPenNames
PenID
MemberID
PenName
DateCreated
Bio

tblBooks
BookID
PenID

Jim.

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Sent: Thursday, June 23, 2005 12:58 PM
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Subject: RE: [AccessD] Normalizing issue


I've been considering this, this morning and I think what I've finally come
up with is this:

A member name -- that's their real name -- which will relate to their books.
I "think" I will add a pen name field to the book table -- if they wrote the
name under another name, it'll be there for searches, write-up's, whatever.
But, there's only going to be one pen name for each book, so I think it's
safe to do this. What do you think?

Susan H.

Since it's a writer's database, a separate *table* for pen names makes a lot
of sense.  Some writers use multiple pen names, so creating a pseudonym
table is the safest way to handle that and relate it to the writer's actual
name.  You could always use the real name as the default when filling in a
pen name.

Charlotte Foust


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Sent: Thursday, June 23, 2005 8:43 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
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If it isn't a middle or maiden name, what is it?  This gets even more tricky
with non-English names where "last" names can get really confusing.  I
generally provide a field for first, middle, and last name and make it the
responsibility of the user to enter the appropriate value in the appropriate
field.  The rules for parsing this can become so draconian, that it hardly
seems worth the work to do anything else.

========I'm in the middle of creating a database (pro bono) for a writer's
organization. It's a simple deal and will require little work
-- but this is already cropping up. These people will want their "writing"
names with their publications -- I'm thinking about just adding one more
field to store their "pen name" or whatever -- but then that becomes a
nuisance if their name and professional name are the same
-- gotta fill in both or allow for the blanks and go find the real name
-- such a nuisance --

I think at this point the middle name is the best solution --

Susan H.

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From DWUTKA at marlow.com  Thu Jun 23 14:36:39 2005
From: DWUTKA at marlow.com (DWUTKA at marlow.com)
Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2005 14:36:39 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] FW: You have been unsubscribed from the Dba-exec ma
	ilinglist
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No I got an unscribed from the BOD list email.

Really...I didn't mean it...whatever I said! <grin>

Drew

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mailinglist


Actually added you by mistake when I was cleaning up the bod list. I clicked
on the wrong shortcut was working in dba-exec and didn't notice right away.

Have you gotten the BOD meeting request via the dba-bod list yet? 

John

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Just curious...why was I unsubscribed?  Have I been a bad boy or something?

Drew

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From rl_stewart at highstream.net  Thu Jun 23 14:39:24 2005
From: rl_stewart at highstream.net (Robert L. Stewart)
Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2005 14:39:24 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Re: Normalizing issue
In-Reply-To: <200506231828.j5NISbR08908@databaseadvisors.com>
References: <200506231828.j5NISbR08908@databaseadvisors.com>
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Susan,

You can incorporate the first, middle, and last name model for the pen name 
also.  Actually, that was the way I had it in the first alias table that I 
sent out.  I compressed it in the last one.

And, LIKE "*TWAIN*" would find all instances of it.  Just easier if you are 
looking in the last name field.

Robert

At 01:28 PM 6/23/2005, you wrote:
>Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2005 13:55:45 -0400
>From: "Susan Harkins" <ssharkins at bellsouth.net>
>Subject: RE: [AccessD] Re: Normalizing issue
>To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'"
>         <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
>Message-ID: <20050623175546.WABL7767.ibm60aec.bellsouth.net at SUSANONE>
>Content-Type: text/plain;       charset="us-ascii"
>
>The edit it as needed for the special cases.  This model also incorporates
>an alias table to hold the solution to what Susan needs for her pen names.
>All she would need to do is add a table to relate the pen names to the
>publisher for the articles being published.
>
>===========The alias is all  one field though -- right? I don't think that
>would work for pen names as I can see a need for searching on pen name
>(think Twain) rather than member name -- and a search for Twain isn't going
>to work if the field is "Mark Twain"
>
>Susan H.




From ssharkins at bellsouth.net  Thu Jun 23 14:44:54 2005
From: ssharkins at bellsouth.net (Susan Harkins)
Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2005 15:44:54 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Re: Normalizing issue
In-Reply-To: <KDEHKEMIOHGKCDHLPPLKOEMMFFAA.dmcafee@pacbell.net>
Message-ID: <20050623194454.PJJJ8050.ibm62aec.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>

I just think Arthur's up to old tricks again... ;) 

Susan H. 

I wonder if they nicknamed him "Alfie", short for alphabet ;)

D


Surname:
Wolfeschlegelsteinhausenbergerdorffvoralternwarengewissenhaf
tschaferswesenchafewarenwholgepflegeundsorgfaltigkeitbeschut



From rl_stewart at highstream.net  Thu Jun 23 14:46:52 2005
From: rl_stewart at highstream.net (Robert L. Stewart)
Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2005 14:46:52 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Re: Normalizing issue
In-Reply-To: <200506231828.j5NISbR08908@databaseadvisors.com>
References: <200506231828.j5NISbR08908@databaseadvisors.com>
Message-ID: <6.2.1.2.2.20050623144137.05532ea8@pop3.highstream.net>

Susan,

tblPublication
PublicationID
PublicationType   (Book, Article, White Paper, etc.)
PublicationTitle
AuthorAliasID

Then you can add any other information appropriate for the publication, 
like InPrintFlag, CopyrightDate, PublisherID, etc.

Over design!!!!  You can always back off an over designed system.  It is 
much harder to fix an under designed system.

Robert

At 01:28 PM 6/23/2005, you wrote:
>Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2005 14:28:24 -0400
>From: "Susan Harkins" <ssharkins at bellsouth.net>
>Subject: RE: [AccessD] Normalizing issue
>To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'"
>         <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
>Message-ID: <20050623182824.MXAF11273.ibm67aec.bellsouth.net at SUSANONE>
>Content-Type: text/plain;       charset="us-ascii"
>
>This is really getting much more complicated than I had planned. Now I have
>to figure out how to deal with books versus articles. :) I thought about one
>table that id's each publication as a book, article, etc. but I have one
>problem.
>
>Books are usually in or out of print and that just doesn't apply for
>articles. If I use a Yes/No for InPrint, then I've got records when an
>inappropriate value -- No for magazines isn't really correct. I could use a
>tri-state Yes/No I guess, and put Null to work, but ug...
>
>I can have a separate table that stores only book InPrint field. Or, I can
>just use two different tables, one for books, for mags.
>
>Susan H.




From stuart at lexacorp.com.pg  Thu Jun 23 17:30:34 2005
From: stuart at lexacorp.com.pg (Stuart McLachlan)
Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2005 08:30:34 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] Re: Normalizing issue
In-Reply-To: <20050623194454.PJJJ8050.ibm62aec.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>
References: <KDEHKEMIOHGKCDHLPPLKOEMMFFAA.dmcafee@pacbell.net>
Message-ID: <42BBC4AA.3771.30398AF@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>

On 23 Jun 2005 at 15:44, Susan Harkins wrote:

> I just think Arthur's up to old tricks again... ;) 
> 

Nope, see http://www.everything2.com/index.pl?node_id=1534419
-- 
Stuart




From bchacc at san.rr.com  Thu Jun 23 17:31:00 2005
From: bchacc at san.rr.com (Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software)
Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2005 15:31:00 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Turn Off Help Box in Access 2003
References: <008701c57810$2cf39d20$6701a8c0@HAL9004> <42BAFC1B.3070008@shaw.ca>
Message-ID: <020f01c57843$3bf3c2e0$6701a8c0@HAL9004>

Marty:

Didn't work.  The help box ( which is a new feature in A2K3) still shows.

Rocky

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "MartyConnelly" <martyconnelly at shaw.ca>
To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving" 
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Thursday, June 23, 2005 11:14 AM
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Turn Off Help Box in Access 2003


> What's This? This property of the form  can only be turned on by default 
> to Yes when MinMax property set to No
> So just set Form property What's This to No.
>
> Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software wrote:
>
>>Dear List:
>>In access 2003 up in the right corner by the maximize, minimize and close 
>>buttons there's a help box.  Does anyone know the syntax for turning this 
>>thing off through code?
>>
>>MTIA
>>
>>Rocky Smolin
>>Beach Access Software
>>http://www.e-z-mrp.com
>>858-259-4334
>>
>
> -- 
> Marty Connelly
> Victoria, B.C.
> Canada
>
>
>
> -- 
> AccessD mailing list
> AccessD at databaseadvisors.com
> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd
> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com
> 



From jmhecht at earthlink.net  Thu Jun 23 19:51:30 2005
From: jmhecht at earthlink.net (Joe Hecht)
Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2005 17:51:30 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Normalizing issue
In-Reply-To: <20050623182824.MXAF11273.ibm67aec.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>
Message-ID: <000401c57856$dcdfc420$6401a8c0@laptop1>

Don't all projects.

Joe Hecht
Los Angeles CA


This is really getting much more complicated than I had planned. 



From martyconnelly at shaw.ca  Thu Jun 23 21:26:35 2005
From: martyconnelly at shaw.ca (MartyConnelly)
Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2005 19:26:35 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Turn Off Help Box in Access 2003
References: <008701c57810$2cf39d20$6701a8c0@HAL9004> <42BAFC1B.3070008@shaw.ca>
	<020f01c57843$3bf3c2e0$6701a8c0@HAL9004>
Message-ID: <42BB6F5B.8000501@shaw.ca>

Works for me in Access 2003
Min Max Buttons     No
Whats this button    No
As a matter of fact on a basic virgin form it will squawk to you that it 
will not let you turn ON the
the Whats This Button to Yes unless MinMax is set to None.

Maybe a corrupted form or you have turned on an odd Application.SetOption




Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software wrote:

> Marty:
>
> Didn't work.  The help box ( which is a new feature in A2K3) still shows.
>
> Rocky
>
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "MartyConnelly" 
> <martyconnelly at shaw.ca>
> To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving" 
> <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
> Sent: Thursday, June 23, 2005 11:14 AM
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] Turn Off Help Box in Access 2003
>
>
>> What's This? This property of the form  can only be turned on by 
>> default to Yes when MinMax property set to No
>> So just set Form property What's This to No.
>>
>> Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software wrote:
>>
>>> Dear List:
>>> In access 2003 up in the right corner by the maximize, minimize and 
>>> close buttons there's a help box.  Does anyone know the syntax for 
>>> turning this thing off through code?
>>>
>>> MTIA
>>>
>>> Rocky Smolin
>>> Beach Access Software
>>> http://www.e-z-mrp.com
>>> 858-259-4334
>>>
>>
>> -- 
>> Marty Connelly
>> Victoria, B.C.
>> Canada
>>
>>
>>
>> -- 
>> AccessD mailing list
>> AccessD at databaseadvisors.com
>> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd
>> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com
>>
>

-- 
Marty Connelly
Victoria, B.C.
Canada





From bchacc at san.rr.com  Thu Jun 23 22:13:30 2005
From: bchacc at san.rr.com (Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software)
Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2005 20:13:30 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Turn Off Help Box in Access 2003
References: <008701c57810$2cf39d20$6701a8c0@HAL9004> <42BAFC1B.3070008@shaw.ca>
	<020f01c57843$3bf3c2e0$6701a8c0@HAL9004> <42BB6F5B.8000501@shaw.ca>
Message-ID: <02b401c5786a$b2d64320$6701a8c0@HAL9004>

MinMax Buttons None.  Close button no. What's this No.  Everything 
disappears but the help box.  And in the mde, the DoCmd.Maximize doesn't 
work.  So the form doesn't open maximized.  But it works for you.  I wonder 
what's going on.  I'm pretty sure the form isn't corrupted.

Rocky

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "MartyConnelly" <martyconnelly at shaw.ca>
To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving" 
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Thursday, June 23, 2005 7:26 PM
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Turn Off Help Box in Access 2003


> Works for me in Access 2003
> Min Max Buttons     No
> Whats this button    No
> As a matter of fact on a basic virgin form it will squawk to you that it 
> will not let you turn ON the
> the Whats This Button to Yes unless MinMax is set to None.
>
> Maybe a corrupted form or you have turned on an odd Application.SetOption
>
>
>
>
> Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software wrote:
>
>> Marty:
>>
>> Didn't work.  The help box ( which is a new feature in A2K3) still shows.
>>
>> Rocky
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "MartyConnelly" 
>> <martyconnelly at shaw.ca>
>> To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving" 
>> <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
>> Sent: Thursday, June 23, 2005 11:14 AM
>> Subject: Re: [AccessD] Turn Off Help Box in Access 2003
>>
>>
>>> What's This? This property of the form  can only be turned on by default 
>>> to Yes when MinMax property set to No
>>> So just set Form property What's This to No.
>>>
>>> Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software wrote:
>>>
>>>> Dear List:
>>>> In access 2003 up in the right corner by the maximize, minimize and 
>>>> close buttons there's a help box.  Does anyone know the syntax for 
>>>> turning this thing off through code?
>>>>
>>>> MTIA
>>>>
>>>> Rocky Smolin
>>>> Beach Access Software
>>>> http://www.e-z-mrp.com
>>>> 858-259-4334
>>>>
>>>
>>> -- 
>>> Marty Connelly
>>> Victoria, B.C.
>>> Canada
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> -- 
>>> AccessD mailing list
>>> AccessD at databaseadvisors.com
>>> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd
>>> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com
>>>
>>
>
> -- 
> Marty Connelly
> Victoria, B.C.
> Canada
>
>
>
> -- 
> AccessD mailing list
> AccessD at databaseadvisors.com
> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd
> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com
> 



From D.Dick at uws.edu.au  Thu Jun 23 23:00:12 2005
From: D.Dick at uws.edu.au (Darren Dick)
Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2005 14:00:12 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] Turn Off Help Box in Access 2003
Message-ID: <2FDE83AF1A69C84796CBD13788DDA88349ACDE@BONHAM.AD.UWS.EDU.AU>

Are you Guys talking about the same thing?
Marty seems to be talking about the What's this Button
Rocky is referring to the Small Search Field Just to the top right of
any open screen (A Unique 2003 Feature)
That's near the Close|Min/Max|Restore Buttons

DD
 

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Rocky Smolin
- Beach Access Software
Sent: Friday, June 24, 2005 1:14 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Turn Off Help Box in Access 2003

MinMax Buttons None.  Close button no. What's this No.  Everything
disappears but the help box.  And in the mde, the DoCmd.Maximize doesn't
work.  So the form doesn't open maximized.  But it works for you.  I
wonder what's going on.  I'm pretty sure the form isn't corrupted.

Rocky

----- Original Message -----
From: "MartyConnelly" <martyconnelly at shaw.ca>
To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving" 
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Thursday, June 23, 2005 7:26 PM
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Turn Off Help Box in Access 2003


> Works for me in Access 2003
> Min Max Buttons     No
> Whats this button    No
> As a matter of fact on a basic virgin form it will squawk to you that
it 
> will not let you turn ON the
> the Whats This Button to Yes unless MinMax is set to None.
>
> Maybe a corrupted form or you have turned on an odd
Application.SetOption
>
>
>
>
> Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software wrote:
>
>> Marty:
>>
>> Didn't work.  The help box ( which is a new feature in A2K3) still
shows.
>>
>> Rocky
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "MartyConnelly" 
>> <martyconnelly at shaw.ca>
>> To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving" 
>> <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
>> Sent: Thursday, June 23, 2005 11:14 AM
>> Subject: Re: [AccessD] Turn Off Help Box in Access 2003
>>
>>
>>> What's This? This property of the form  can only be turned on by
default 
>>> to Yes when MinMax property set to No
>>> So just set Form property What's This to No.
>>>
>>> Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software wrote:
>>>
>>>> Dear List:
>>>> In access 2003 up in the right corner by the maximize, minimize and

>>>> close buttons there's a help box.  Does anyone know the syntax for 
>>>> turning this thing off through code?
>>>>
>>>> MTIA
>>>>
>>>> Rocky Smolin
>>>> Beach Access Software
>>>> http://www.e-z-mrp.com
>>>> 858-259-4334
>>>>
>>>
>>> -- 
>>> Marty Connelly
>>> Victoria, B.C.
>>> Canada
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> -- 
>>> AccessD mailing list
>>> AccessD at databaseadvisors.com
>>> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd
>>> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com
>>>
>>
>
> -- 
> Marty Connelly
> Victoria, B.C.
> Canada
>
>
>
> -- 
> AccessD mailing list
> AccessD at databaseadvisors.com
> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd
> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com
> 

-- 
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AccessD at databaseadvisors.com
http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd
Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com


From bchacc at san.rr.com  Thu Jun 23 23:12:15 2005
From: bchacc at san.rr.com (Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software)
Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2005 21:12:15 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Turn Off Help Box in Access 2003
References: <2FDE83AF1A69C84796CBD13788DDA88349ACDE@BONHAM.AD.UWS.EDU.AU>
Message-ID: <030a01c57872$e7d380d0$6701a8c0@HAL9004>

The small Search Field in the upper right of the form that has the text 
'Type a question for help' is what I'm referring to.  I thought maybe the 
What's This had something to do with that.  Any idea how to rid myself of 
that pesky control, Darren?

Rocky

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Darren Dick" <D.Dick at uws.edu.au>
To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving" 
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Thursday, June 23, 2005 9:00 PM
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Turn Off Help Box in Access 2003


> Are you Guys talking about the same thing?
> Marty seems to be talking about the What's this Button
> Rocky is referring to the Small Search Field Just to the top right of
> any open screen (A Unique 2003 Feature)
> That's near the Close|Min/Max|Restore Buttons
>
> DD
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Rocky Smolin
> - Beach Access Software
> Sent: Friday, June 24, 2005 1:14 PM
> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] Turn Off Help Box in Access 2003
>
> MinMax Buttons None.  Close button no. What's this No.  Everything
> disappears but the help box.  And in the mde, the DoCmd.Maximize doesn't
> work.  So the form doesn't open maximized.  But it works for you.  I
> wonder what's going on.  I'm pretty sure the form isn't corrupted.
>
> Rocky
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "MartyConnelly" <martyconnelly at shaw.ca>
> To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving"
> <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
> Sent: Thursday, June 23, 2005 7:26 PM
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] Turn Off Help Box in Access 2003
>
>
>> Works for me in Access 2003
>> Min Max Buttons     No
>> Whats this button    No
>> As a matter of fact on a basic virgin form it will squawk to you that
> it
>> will not let you turn ON the
>> the Whats This Button to Yes unless MinMax is set to None.
>>
>> Maybe a corrupted form or you have turned on an odd
> Application.SetOption
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software wrote:
>>
>>> Marty:
>>>
>>> Didn't work.  The help box ( which is a new feature in A2K3) still
> shows.
>>>
>>> Rocky
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "MartyConnelly"
>>> <martyconnelly at shaw.ca>
>>> To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving"
>>> <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
>>> Sent: Thursday, June 23, 2005 11:14 AM
>>> Subject: Re: [AccessD] Turn Off Help Box in Access 2003
>>>
>>>
>>>> What's This? This property of the form  can only be turned on by
> default
>>>> to Yes when MinMax property set to No
>>>> So just set Form property What's This to No.
>>>>
>>>> Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Dear List:
>>>>> In access 2003 up in the right corner by the maximize, minimize and
>
>>>>> close buttons there's a help box.  Does anyone know the syntax for
>>>>> turning this thing off through code?
>>>>>
>>>>> MTIA
>>>>>
>>>>> Rocky Smolin
>>>>> Beach Access Software
>>>>> http://www.e-z-mrp.com
>>>>> 858-259-4334
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -- 
>>>> Marty Connelly
>>>> Victoria, B.C.
>>>> Canada
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -- 
>>>> AccessD mailing list
>>>> AccessD at databaseadvisors.com
>>>> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd
>>>> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com
>>>>
>>>
>>
>> -- 
>> Marty Connelly
>> Victoria, B.C.
>> Canada
>>
>>
>>
>> -- 
>> AccessD mailing list
>> AccessD at databaseadvisors.com
>> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd
>> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com
>>
>
> -- 
> AccessD mailing list
> AccessD at databaseadvisors.com
> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd
> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com
> -- 
> AccessD mailing list
> AccessD at databaseadvisors.com
> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd
> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com
> 



From martyconnelly at shaw.ca  Thu Jun 23 23:28:18 2005
From: martyconnelly at shaw.ca (MartyConnelly)
Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2005 21:28:18 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Turn Off Help Box in Access 2003
References: <008701c57810$2cf39d20$6701a8c0@HAL9004> <42BAFC1B.3070008@shaw.ca>
	<020f01c57843$3bf3c2e0$6701a8c0@HAL9004> <42BB6F5B.8000501@shaw.ca>
	<02b401c5786a$b2d64320$6701a8c0@HAL9004>
Message-ID: <42BB8BE2.5050804@shaw.ca>

Try toggling the Control Box property between yes and no, in some cases 
the X disappears like wise ? What is.
In some cases I have a greyed out X close form and no what is



Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software wrote:

> MinMax Buttons None.  Close button no. What's this No.  Everything 
> disappears but the help box.  And in the mde, the DoCmd.Maximize 
> doesn't work.  So the form doesn't open maximized.  But it works for 
> you.  I wonder what's going on.  I'm pretty sure the form isn't 
> corrupted.
>
> Rocky
>
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "MartyConnelly" 
> <martyconnelly at shaw.ca>
> To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving" 
> <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
> Sent: Thursday, June 23, 2005 7:26 PM
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] Turn Off Help Box in Access 2003
>
>
>> Works for me in Access 2003
>> Min Max Buttons     No
>> Whats this button    No
>> As a matter of fact on a basic virgin form it will squawk to you that 
>> it will not let you turn ON the
>> the Whats This Button to Yes unless MinMax is set to None.
>>
>> Maybe a corrupted form or you have turned on an odd 
>> Application.SetOption
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software wrote:
>>
>>> Marty:
>>>
>>> Didn't work.  The help box ( which is a new feature in A2K3) still 
>>> shows.
>>>
>>> Rocky
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "MartyConnelly" 
>>> <martyconnelly at shaw.ca>
>>> To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving" 
>>> <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
>>> Sent: Thursday, June 23, 2005 11:14 AM
>>> Subject: Re: [AccessD] Turn Off Help Box in Access 2003
>>>
>>>
>>>> What's This? This property of the form  can only be turned on by 
>>>> default to Yes when MinMax property set to No
>>>> So just set Form property What's This to No.
>>>>
>>>> Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Dear List:
>>>>> In access 2003 up in the right corner by the maximize, minimize 
>>>>> and close buttons there's a help box.  Does anyone know the syntax 
>>>>> for turning this thing off through code?
>>>>>
>>>>> MTIA
>>>>>
>>>>> Rocky Smolin
>>>>> Beach Access Software
>>>>> http://www.e-z-mrp.com
>>>>> 858-259-4334
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -- 
>>>> Marty Connelly
>>>> Victoria, B.C.
>>>> Canada
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -- 
>>>> AccessD mailing list
>>>> AccessD at databaseadvisors.com
>>>> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd
>>>> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com
>>>>
>>>
>>
>> -- 
>> Marty Connelly
>> Victoria, B.C.
>> Canada
>>
>>
>>
>> -- 
>> AccessD mailing list
>> AccessD at databaseadvisors.com
>> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd
>> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com
>>
>

-- 
Marty Connelly
Victoria, B.C.
Canada





From dejpolsys at hotmail.com  Thu Jun 23 23:42:55 2005
From: dejpolsys at hotmail.com (William Hindman)
Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2005 00:42:55 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Turn Off Help Box in Access 2003
References: <2FDE83AF1A69C84796CBD13788DDA88349ACDE@BONHAM.AD.UWS.EDU.AU>
	<030a01c57872$e7d380d0$6701a8c0@HAL9004>
Message-ID: <BAY103-DAV5688BFC5F0F20CD71C532AEED0@phx.gbl>

http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;283633

William


From bchacc at san.rr.com  Thu Jun 23 23:57:07 2005
From: bchacc at san.rr.com (Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software)
Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2005 21:57:07 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Turn Off Help Box in Access 2003
References: <2FDE83AF1A69C84796CBD13788DDA88349ACDE@BONHAM.AD.UWS.EDU.AU>
	<030a01c57872$e7d380d0$6701a8c0@HAL9004>
	<BAY103-DAV5688BFC5F0F20CD71C532AEED0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <033d01c57879$2c34c940$6701a8c0@HAL9004>

It's for 2002 and of course they changed the dialog boxes in 2003 so it 
doesn't follow the KB. :(

Rocky

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "William Hindman" <dejpolsys at hotmail.com>
To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving" 
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Thursday, June 23, 2005 9:42 PM
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Turn Off Help Box in Access 2003


> http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;283633
>
> William
> -- 
> AccessD mailing list
> AccessD at databaseadvisors.com
> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd
> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com
> 



From D.Dick at uws.edu.au  Fri Jun 24 00:28:32 2005
From: D.Dick at uws.edu.au (Darren Dick)
Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2005 15:28:32 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] Turn Off Help Box in Access 2003
Message-ID: <2FDE83AF1A69C84796CBD13788DDA88349AD6E@BONHAM.AD.UWS.EDU.AU>

Sorry - No - I have no solution for you

DD
 

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Rocky Smolin
- Beach Access Software
Sent: Friday, June 24, 2005 2:12 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Turn Off Help Box in Access 2003

The small Search Field in the upper right of the form that has the text
'Type a question for help' is what I'm referring to.  I thought maybe
the What's This had something to do with that.  Any idea how to rid
myself of that pesky control, Darren?

Rocky

----- Original Message -----
From: "Darren Dick" <D.Dick at uws.edu.au>
To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving" 
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Thursday, June 23, 2005 9:00 PM
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Turn Off Help Box in Access 2003


> Are you Guys talking about the same thing?
> Marty seems to be talking about the What's this Button
> Rocky is referring to the Small Search Field Just to the top right of
> any open screen (A Unique 2003 Feature)
> That's near the Close|Min/Max|Restore Buttons
>
> DD
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Rocky
Smolin
> - Beach Access Software
> Sent: Friday, June 24, 2005 1:14 PM
> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] Turn Off Help Box in Access 2003
>
> MinMax Buttons None.  Close button no. What's this No.  Everything
> disappears but the help box.  And in the mde, the DoCmd.Maximize
doesn't
> work.  So the form doesn't open maximized.  But it works for you.  I
> wonder what's going on.  I'm pretty sure the form isn't corrupted.
>
> Rocky
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "MartyConnelly" <martyconnelly at shaw.ca>
> To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving"
> <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
> Sent: Thursday, June 23, 2005 7:26 PM
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] Turn Off Help Box in Access 2003
>
>
>> Works for me in Access 2003
>> Min Max Buttons     No
>> Whats this button    No
>> As a matter of fact on a basic virgin form it will squawk to you that
> it
>> will not let you turn ON the
>> the Whats This Button to Yes unless MinMax is set to None.
>>
>> Maybe a corrupted form or you have turned on an odd
> Application.SetOption
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software wrote:
>>
>>> Marty:
>>>
>>> Didn't work.  The help box ( which is a new feature in A2K3) still
> shows.
>>>
>>> Rocky
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "MartyConnelly"
>>> <martyconnelly at shaw.ca>
>>> To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving"
>>> <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
>>> Sent: Thursday, June 23, 2005 11:14 AM
>>> Subject: Re: [AccessD] Turn Off Help Box in Access 2003
>>>
>>>
>>>> What's This? This property of the form  can only be turned on by
> default
>>>> to Yes when MinMax property set to No
>>>> So just set Form property What's This to No.
>>>>
>>>> Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Dear List:
>>>>> In access 2003 up in the right corner by the maximize, minimize
and
>
>>>>> close buttons there's a help box.  Does anyone know the syntax for
>>>>> turning this thing off through code?
>>>>>
>>>>> MTIA
>>>>>
>>>>> Rocky Smolin
>>>>> Beach Access Software
>>>>> http://www.e-z-mrp.com
>>>>> 858-259-4334
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -- 
>>>> Marty Connelly
>>>> Victoria, B.C.
>>>> Canada
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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>>>>
>>>
>>
>> -- 
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>> Victoria, B.C.
>> Canada
>>
>>
>>
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From stuart at lexacorp.com.pg  Fri Jun 24 01:25:23 2005
From: stuart at lexacorp.com.pg (Stuart McLachlan)
Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2005 16:25:23 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] Turn Off Help Box in Access 2003
In-Reply-To: <2FDE83AF1A69C84796CBD13788DDA88349AD6E@BONHAM.AD.UWS.EDU.AU>
Message-ID: <42BC33F3.6369.4B64BC4@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>

According to 
http://office.microsoft.com/en-us/assistance/HP030894201033.aspx

   1.  On the Tools menu, click Customize.
   2. On the menu bar, right-click the Type a question for help Question 
Box image box.
   3. Select or deselect Show Ask A Question Box to show or hide it.

Note  If you are hiding the Type a question for help box, it will still 
display until after you close the Customize dialog box.


According to:
http://www.pcreview.co.uk/forums/thread-1113279.php
>From code, you can set CommandBars.DisableAskAQuestionDropdown to True.

-- 
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From Bruce.Bruen at railcorp.nsw.gov.au  Fri Jun 24 01:38:08 2005
From: Bruce.Bruen at railcorp.nsw.gov.au (Bruen, Bruce)
Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2005 16:38:08 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] Setting ListIndex value (A97)
Message-ID: <F2BE8EAB3EA585418337B71BCE6F3BF304EBD4@msmet100.rail.nsw.gov.au>

hi guys,
 
I need to set the selected item of a combobox to a random value when
user clicks a commandbutton.  e.g. [Select random gift] button sets the
Gift: combo next to it to a random value (between 1 and listcount-1!)
 
Since listindex is readonly can anyone tell me how to do this?
 
tia
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From martyconnelly at shaw.ca  Fri Jun 24 01:53:38 2005
From: martyconnelly at shaw.ca (MartyConnelly)
Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2005 23:53:38 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Turn Off Help Box in Access 2003
References: <2FDE83AF1A69C84796CBD13788DDA88349ACDE@BONHAM.AD.UWS.EDU.AU>
Message-ID: <42BBADF2.5080706@shaw.ca>

Ah that Thingy Dingy! I thought it was the  ?  next to the max minimize 
icons on a form
not the Access menu command bar.
This will toggle it in code, found name in object browser then looked 
it  up in help.

Sub ToggleAskQuestionDropdown()
    With Application.CommandBars
        If .DisableAskAQuestionDropdown = True Then
            .DisableAskAQuestionDropdown = False
            Debug.Print "ask question turned on"
        Else
            .DisableAskAQuestionDropdown = True
             Debug.Print "ask question turned Off"
        End If
    End With
End Sub

Darren Dick wrote:

>Are you Guys talking about the same thing?
>Marty seems to be talking about the What's this Button
>Rocky is referring to the Small Search Field Just to the top right of
>any open screen (A Unique 2003 Feature)
>That's near the Close|Min/Max|Restore Buttons
>
>DD
> 
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Rocky Smolin
>- Beach Access Software
>Sent: Friday, June 24, 2005 1:14 PM
>To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
>Subject: Re: [AccessD] Turn Off Help Box in Access 2003
>
>MinMax Buttons None.  Close button no. What's this No.  Everything
>disappears but the help box.  And in the mde, the DoCmd.Maximize doesn't
>work.  So the form doesn't open maximized.  But it works for you.  I
>wonder what's going on.  I'm pretty sure the form isn't corrupted.
>
>Rocky
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "MartyConnelly" <martyconnelly at shaw.ca>
>To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving" 
><accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
>Sent: Thursday, June 23, 2005 7:26 PM
>Subject: Re: [AccessD] Turn Off Help Box in Access 2003
>
>
>  
>
>>Works for me in Access 2003
>>Min Max Buttons     No
>>Whats this button    No
>>As a matter of fact on a basic virgin form it will squawk to you that
>>    
>>
>it 
>  
>
>>will not let you turn ON the
>>the Whats This Button to Yes unless MinMax is set to None.
>>
>>Maybe a corrupted form or you have turned on an odd
>>    
>>
>Application.SetOption
>  
>
>>
>>
>>Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software wrote:
>>
>>    
>>
>>>Marty:
>>>
>>>Didn't work.  The help box ( which is a new feature in A2K3) still
>>>      
>>>
>shows.
>  
>
>>>Rocky
>>>
>>>----- Original Message ----- From: "MartyConnelly" 
>>><martyconnelly at shaw.ca>
>>>To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving" 
>>><accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
>>>Sent: Thursday, June 23, 2005 11:14 AM
>>>Subject: Re: [AccessD] Turn Off Help Box in Access 2003
>>>
>>>
>>>      
>>>
>>>>What's This? This property of the form  can only be turned on by
>>>>        
>>>>
>default 
>  
>
>>>>to Yes when MinMax property set to No
>>>>So just set Form property What's This to No.
>>>>
>>>>Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software wrote:
>>>>
>>>>        
>>>>
>>>>>Dear List:
>>>>>In access 2003 up in the right corner by the maximize, minimize and
>>>>>          
>>>>>
>
>  
>
>>>>>close buttons there's a help box.  Does anyone know the syntax for 
>>>>>turning this thing off through code?
>>>>>
>>>>>MTIA
>>>>>
>>>>>Rocky Smolin
>>>>>Beach Access Software
>>>>>http://www.e-z-mrp.com
>>>>>858-259-4334
>>>>>
>>>>>          
>>>>>
>>>>-- 
>>>>Marty Connelly
>>>>Victoria, B.C.
>>>>Canada
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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>>>>
>>>>        
>>>>
>>-- 
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>>Victoria, B.C.
>>Canada
>>
>>
>>
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>>
>>    
>>
>
>  
>

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From dejpolsys at hotmail.com  Fri Jun 24 02:19:43 2005
From: dejpolsys at hotmail.com (William Hindman)
Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2005 03:19:43 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Turn Off Help Box in Access 2003
References: <2FDE83AF1A69C84796CBD13788DDA88349ACDE@BONHAM.AD.UWS.EDU.AU><030a01c57872$e7d380d0$6701a8c0@HAL9004><BAY103-DAV5688BFC5F0F20CD71C532AEED0@phx.gbl>
	<033d01c57879$2c34c940$6701a8c0@HAL9004>
Message-ID: <BAY103-DAV1B8C1495C66744B2EBA55AEED0@phx.gbl>

Rocky

I am using Access 2003 and in mine it works exactly as the KB article says 
..follow the directions exactly, its not intuitive ...after selecting 
Customize from the Tools Menu, ignore the Customize pane/tabs and Right 
Click directly on the "Ask a Question" box in the upper right of your Menu 
bar ...you will get (with the Customize form open) a "Show Ask a Question 
Box" checkbox ...clear it ...then Close the Customize form ...the "Ask a 
Question" box will be gone.

William
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software" <bchacc at san.rr.com>
To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving" 
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Friday, June 24, 2005 12:57 AM
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Turn Off Help Box in Access 2003


> It's for 2002 and of course they changed the dialog boxes in 2003 so it 
> doesn't follow the KB. :(
>
> Rocky
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "William Hindman" <dejpolsys at hotmail.com>
> To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving" 
> <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
> Sent: Thursday, June 23, 2005 9:42 PM
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] Turn Off Help Box in Access 2003
>
>
>> http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;283633
>>
>> William
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From dejpolsys at hotmail.com  Fri Jun 24 02:25:27 2005
From: dejpolsys at hotmail.com (William Hindman)
Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2005 03:25:27 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Turn Off Help Box in Access 2003
References: <2FDE83AF1A69C84796CBD13788DDA88349ACDE@BONHAM.AD.UWS.EDU.AU>
	<42BBADF2.5080706@shaw.ca>
Message-ID: <BAY103-DAV5E4F1C2A4E2B0617A4D6EAEED0@phx.gbl>

..do you ever do anything the easy way? :)))))
..just one more thing to add to my startup code :(

William

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "MartyConnelly" <martyconnelly at shaw.ca>
To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving" 
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Friday, June 24, 2005 2:53 AM
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Turn Off Help Box in Access 2003


> Ah that Thingy Dingy! I thought it was the  ?  next to the max minimize 
> icons on a form
> not the Access menu command bar.
> This will toggle it in code, found name in object browser then looked it 
> up in help.
>
> Sub ToggleAskQuestionDropdown()
>    With Application.CommandBars
>        If .DisableAskAQuestionDropdown = True Then
>            .DisableAskAQuestionDropdown = False
>            Debug.Print "ask question turned on"
>        Else
>            .DisableAskAQuestionDropdown = True
>             Debug.Print "ask question turned Off"
>        End If
>    End With
> End Sub
>
> Darren Dick wrote:
>
>>Are you Guys talking about the same thing?
>>Marty seems to be talking about the What's this Button
>>Rocky is referring to the Small Search Field Just to the top right of
>>any open screen (A Unique 2003 Feature)
>>That's near the Close|Min/Max|Restore Buttons
>>
>>DD
>>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>>[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Rocky Smolin
>>- Beach Access Software
>>Sent: Friday, June 24, 2005 1:14 PM
>>To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
>>Subject: Re: [AccessD] Turn Off Help Box in Access 2003
>>
>>MinMax Buttons None.  Close button no. What's this No.  Everything
>>disappears but the help box.  And in the mde, the DoCmd.Maximize doesn't
>>work.  So the form doesn't open maximized.  But it works for you.  I
>>wonder what's going on.  I'm pretty sure the form isn't corrupted.
>>
>>Rocky
>>
>>----- Original Message -----
>>From: "MartyConnelly" <martyconnelly at shaw.ca>
>>To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving" 
>><accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
>>Sent: Thursday, June 23, 2005 7:26 PM
>>Subject: Re: [AccessD] Turn Off Help Box in Access 2003
>>
>>
>>
>>>Works for me in Access 2003
>>>Min Max Buttons     No
>>>Whats this button    No
>>>As a matter of fact on a basic virgin form it will squawk to you that
>>>
>>it
>>>will not let you turn ON the
>>>the Whats This Button to Yes unless MinMax is set to None.
>>>
>>>Maybe a corrupted form or you have turned on an odd
>>>
>>Application.SetOption
>>
>>>
>>>
>>>Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>Marty:
>>>>
>>>>Didn't work.  The help box ( which is a new feature in A2K3) still
>>>>
>>shows.
>>
>>>>Rocky
>>>>
>>>>----- Original Message ----- From: "MartyConnelly" 
>>>><martyconnelly at shaw.ca>
>>>>To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving" 
>>>><accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
>>>>Sent: Thursday, June 23, 2005 11:14 AM
>>>>Subject: Re: [AccessD] Turn Off Help Box in Access 2003
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>What's This? This property of the form  can only be turned on by
>>>>>
>>default
>>>>>to Yes when MinMax property set to No
>>>>>So just set Form property What's This to No.
>>>>>
>>>>>Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>Dear List:
>>>>>>In access 2003 up in the right corner by the maximize, minimize and
>>>>>>
>>
>>
>>>>>>close buttons there's a help box.  Does anyone know the syntax for 
>>>>>>turning this thing off through code?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>MTIA
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Rocky Smolin
>>>>>>Beach Access Software
>>>>>>http://www.e-z-mrp.com
>>>>>>858-259-4334
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>-- 
>>>>>Marty Connelly
>>>>>Victoria, B.C.
>>>>>Canada
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>-- 
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>>>>>AccessD at databaseadvisors.com
>>>>>http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd
>>>>>Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>-- 
>>>Marty Connelly
>>>Victoria, B.C.
>>>Canada
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>-- 
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>>>http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd
>>>Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
> -- 
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> Victoria, B.C.
> Canada
>
>
>
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From paul.hartland at fsmail.net  Fri Jun 24 03:24:31 2005
From: paul.hartland at fsmail.net (paul.hartland at fsmail.net)
Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2005 10:24:31 +0200 (CEST)
Subject: [AccessD] OT - Visual Basic 6.0 Data Environment
Message-ID: <18005413.1119601471708.JavaMail.www@wwinf3002>

To all,

Could anyone tell me if there is a way of sorting the commands in a Data Environment in Visual Basic 6.0.  I have taken over a project and there are around 200-300 commands in the one Data Environment and it takes ages to look for an individual one.

Could anyone please help with this, or even tell me if there's a fast way of searching a Data Environment to find a single query ?

Many thanks in advance for any help on this...

Paul Hartland

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From paul.hartland at isharp.co.uk  Fri Jun 24 04:54:27 2005
From: paul.hartland at isharp.co.uk (Paul Hartland (ISHARP))
Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2005 10:54:27 +0100
Subject: [AccessD] OT - Visual Basic 6.0 Data Environment
In-Reply-To: <18005413.1119601471708.JavaMail.www@wwinf3002>
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Lee,

Try the following link to edit car no's etc....

	\\AL-DB\Genesis$\GenesisSQLNew.exe

Paul 

-----Original Message-----
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paul.hartland at fsmail.net
Sent: 24 June 2005 09:25
To: accessd
Subject: [AccessD] OT - Visual Basic 6.0 Data Environment

To all,

Could anyone tell me if there is a way of sorting the commands in a Data
Environment in Visual Basic 6.0.  I have taken over a project and there are
around 200-300 commands in the one Data Environment and it takes ages to
look for an individual one.

Could anyone please help with this, or even tell me if there's a fast way of
searching a Data Environment to find a single query ?

Many thanks in advance for any help on this...

Paul Hartland

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From paul.hartland at fsmail.net  Fri Jun 24 04:56:03 2005
From: paul.hartland at fsmail.net (paul.hartland at fsmail.net)
Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2005 11:56:03 +0200 (CEST)
Subject: [AccessD] OT - Visual Basic 6.0 Data Environment
Message-ID: <17297739.1119606963226.JavaMail.www@wwinf3201>

Sorry about last message, bit of brain confusion on my part





Message date : Jun 24 2005, 10:53 AM
>From : "Paul Hartland (ISHARP)" 
To : "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'" 
Copy to : 
Subject : RE: [AccessD] OT - Visual Basic 6.0 Data Environment
Lee,

Try the following link to edit car no's etc....

\\AL-DB\Genesis$\GenesisSQLNew.exe

Paul 

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[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of
paul.hartland at fsmail.net
Sent: 24 June 2005 09:25
To: accessd
Subject: [AccessD] OT - Visual Basic 6.0 Data Environment

To all,

Could anyone tell me if there is a way of sorting the commands in a Data
Environment in Visual Basic 6.0. I have taken over a project and there are
around 200-300 commands in the one Data Environment and it takes ages to
look for an individual one.

Could anyone please help with this, or even tell me if there's a fast way of
searching a Data Environment to find a single query ?

Many thanks in advance for any help on this...

Paul Hartland

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From HollisVJ at pgdp.usec.com  Fri Jun 24 06:40:22 2005
From: HollisVJ at pgdp.usec.com (Hollis,Virginia)
Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2005 06:40:22 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Import from FoxPro
Message-ID: <66ABA669023AE74B97746FD8E684392010175C@c2k3exchange.pgdp.corp.usec.com>

Ok, what is the secret to importing from FoxPro to Access 2003? It is
not in the list of types anymore. I looked through the KB articles but
still have problems.

 

I pulled the tables up in Visual FoxPro, saved them out as dBase IV
files, and then tried to import them into Access 2003.  I got the
message:

 

"Unexpected Error from External Database Driver (8961)"

 

I was able to create an ODBC datasource based on a FoxPro driver that
was already on my computer.  I tried to import the tables, and it looked
like it was going to do it, but then I got an error, "Decimal field
precision too small...

 

I'm running out of ideas.

 

Virginia

 



From rl_stewart at highstream.net  Fri Jun 24 07:48:26 2005
From: rl_stewart at highstream.net (Robert L. Stewart)
Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2005 07:48:26 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Re: Normalizing issue
In-Reply-To: <200506240412.j5O4CHR26385@databaseadvisors.com>
References: <200506240412.j5O4CHR26385@databaseadvisors.com>
Message-ID: <6.2.1.2.2.20050624071837.0374cc10@pop3.highstream.net>

Susan,

Then you have also painted yourself into a corner.  He gave you the 
ultimate in flexible design with the attribute definition system.  It 
allows you to define and classify attributes for any publication without 
the need for more tables later.  I was going to suggest it, but after 
reading his post, did not.

Jim was partially correct, but not totally.  When you are designing a 
database and you run into super-types and sub-types like what Susan has, 
you have to make a choice.  You can roll all of the sub-type attributes up 
into the super-type structure or, you can create them as separate 
tables.  The ultimate is the attribute schema that he proposed.

Super-Type             Sub-Types

tblPublication         tblPubBook          tblPubMagazine
PublicationID          PublicationID       PublicationID
Columns common to      Columns specific    Columns specific
all publications       to books            to magazines

In the super-type/sub-type schema, you would need to add a table for any 
new publication sub-type that did not completely share the attributes of an 
existing sub-type.

If you roll all the sub-type attributes into the super-type, you have to 
modify the super-type when you come across a new publication type that has 
different attributes you want to record.  You can solve the issue with 
seeing "book" attributes when entering a magazine by simply supplying the 
user with separate data entry screens.

If you use the attribute method, you never have to add a table. You can 
define new publication type and the attributes associated with them.  Your 
GUI can be a common GUI.  After selecting the publication type, your GUI 
can populate a temporary table with all the attributes for that publication 
type, giving the user the ability of entering the value for each attribute 
and then posting the results of that temporary table into the master table 
when data entry for the publication is complete.

With flexibility comes responsibility.  The idea for me is to shift the 
responsibility from me as the programmer to the user for the actual use of 
the program.  I no longer have to "think of everything" from the beginning, 
just show them how to use and report out of the system.

Susan, the following is NOT directed at you personally.

List, there are ways of making your designs totally flexible so your users 
never really need you to reprogram the solution again.  What they will need 
though is your guidance in how to use the solution you provide.  You also 
will need to become very proficient in GUI design to make them work 
well.  Anyone can slap together a table here and there and when something 
new comes up, add another table or even redesign the system because of all 
the tables added over time (like the one John was talking about).  A lot of 
us got into Access in the beginning because it was "easy."  But, good 
database design is not easy.  It takes a lot of thought and dedication to 
doing it correctly no matter what.

Robert


At 11:12 PM 6/23/2005, you wrote:
>Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2005 15:38:59 -0400
>From: "Susan Harkins" <ssharkins at bellsouth.net>
>Subject: RE: [AccessD] Normalizing issue
>To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'"
>         <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
>Message-ID: <20050623193900.PGRZ8050.ibm62aec.bellsouth.net at SUSANONE>
>Content-Type: text/plain;       charset="us-ascii"
>
>Jim, I've already gone with separate tables because I got to thinking -- as
>this things grow I may run into other data that doesn't fit both books and
>magazines --
>
>Right now, we're just kind of playing with this. But if it works well and is
>flexible, a lot of different regions could end up using it -- so the more
>problems I resolve now, the better.
>
>Susan H.




From bheid at appdevgrp.com  Fri Jun 24 08:29:40 2005
From: bheid at appdevgrp.com (Bobby Heid)
Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2005 09:29:40 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] SQL "Like" question.
Message-ID: <916187228923D311A6FE00A0CC3FAA30ABEC7B@ADGSERVER>

Hey,

I have a search screen for an app that has several combo boxes that when the
user clicks the Find button, it builds a SQL query based upon the criteria
that the users have selected.  The user can also use wild cards in the combo
boxes such as 'Carlton*'.  Since they can use wild cards, I use LIKE when
building the SQL statement.

I got an email from a user today asking why a given project search was
returning no records.  I looked at the data and this is what they were
searching for: 'Carlton [D]'.  I suspected the data so I removed the
brackets from around the 'D' and the query worked fine.

My question is, is the bracket a special character?  Are there other
characters that I need to watch out for?  I know about the wild card
characters '*', '?', and the '#' character.

Thanks,
Bobby



From john at winhaven.net  Fri Jun 24 09:51:35 2005
From: john at winhaven.net (John Bartow)
Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2005 09:51:35 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Re: Normalizing issue
In-Reply-To: <6.2.1.2.2.20050624071837.0374cc10@pop3.highstream.net>
Message-ID: <200506241451.j5OEpaXb311954@pimout4-ext.prodigy.net>

While also keeping in mind just how much you are being paid to do this
job...

I'm enjoying this thread but it needs to be said. Not everyone here has a
weekly paycheck being direct deposited on Friday.

Not saying you should do it "wrong" because you're not be paid enough to
make an application that can handle every friggin' possibility in the world.
But an independent developer needs to discuss the greater flexibility that
can be built into an app as the amount of time put into it increases (and
hence the cost). When being paid a set rate for a job you make your system
as flexible as possible AS the funding allows. This of course needs to be on
the table with the customer. A lot of customers will lay out what they want
an app to do and not want you to add this kind of flexibility into it
because they don't see the need. Then 2 years later just expect it to adapt
to their new situation.

I agree with you That "It takes a lot of thought and dedication to doing it
correctly". (My very first publicly sold application has worked for 6 years
now without need for updating.) But the "no matter what" part generally
applies to people working with a regular paycheck.


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Robert L. Stewart
Sent: Friday, June 24, 2005 7:48 AM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [AccessD] Re: Normalizing issue

Susan,

Then you have also painted yourself into a corner.  He gave you the ultimate
in flexible design with the attribute definition system.  It allows you to
define and classify attributes for any publication without the need for more
tables later.  I was going to suggest it, but after reading his post, did
not.

Jim was partially correct, but not totally.  When you are designing a
database and you run into super-types and sub-types like what Susan has, you
have to make a choice.  You can roll all of the sub-type attributes up into
the super-type structure or, you can create them as separate tables.  The
ultimate is the attribute schema that he proposed.

Super-Type             Sub-Types

tblPublication         tblPubBook          tblPubMagazine
PublicationID          PublicationID       PublicationID
Columns common to      Columns specific    Columns specific
all publications       to books            to magazines

In the super-type/sub-type schema, you would need to add a table for any new
publication sub-type that did not completely share the attributes of an
existing sub-type.

If you roll all the sub-type attributes into the super-type, you have to
modify the super-type when you come across a new publication type that has
different attributes you want to record.  You can solve the issue with
seeing "book" attributes when entering a magazine by simply supplying the
user with separate data entry screens.

If you use the attribute method, you never have to add a table. You can
define new publication type and the attributes associated with them.  Your
GUI can be a common GUI.  After selecting the publication type, your GUI can
populate a temporary table with all the attributes for that publication
type, giving the user the ability of entering the value for each attribute
and then posting the results of that temporary table into the master table
when data entry for the publication is complete.

With flexibility comes responsibility.  The idea for me is to shift the
responsibility from me as the programmer to the user for the actual use of
the program.  I no longer have to "think of everything" from the beginning,
just show them how to use and report out of the system.

Susan, the following is NOT directed at you personally.

List, there are ways of making your designs totally flexible so your users
never really need you to reprogram the solution again.  What they will need
though is your guidance in how to use the solution you provide.  You also
will need to become very proficient in GUI design to make them work well.
Anyone can slap together a table here and there and when something new comes
up, add another table or even redesign the system because of all the tables
added over time (like the one John was talking about).  A lot of us got into
Access in the beginning because it was "easy."  But, good database design is
not easy.  It takes a lot of thought and dedication to doing it correctly no
matter what.

Robert


At 11:12 PM 6/23/2005, you wrote:
>Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2005 15:38:59 -0400
>From: "Susan Harkins" <ssharkins at bellsouth.net>
>Subject: RE: [AccessD] Normalizing issue
>To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'"
>         <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
>Message-ID: <20050623193900.PGRZ8050.ibm62aec.bellsouth.net at SUSANONE>
>Content-Type: text/plain;       charset="us-ascii"
>
>Jim, I've already gone with separate tables because I got to thinking 
>-- as this things grow I may run into other data that doesn't fit both 
>books and magazines --
>
>Right now, we're just kind of playing with this. But if it works well 
>and is flexible, a lot of different regions could end up using it -- so 
>the more problems I resolve now, the better.
>
>Susan H.


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From cfoust at infostatsystems.com  Fri Jun 24 10:08:04 2005
From: cfoust at infostatsystems.com (Charlotte Foust)
Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2005 08:08:04 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Setting ListIndex value (A97)
Message-ID: <E61FC1D4B1918244905B113C680BEA86873AC6@infoserver01.infostat.local>


Me.Combo1 = Me.Combo1.ItemData(intRandom)

Charlotte Foust


-----Original Message-----
From: Bruen, Bruce [mailto:Bruce.Bruen at railcorp.nsw.gov.au] 
Sent: Thursday, June 23, 2005 11:38 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: [AccessD] Setting ListIndex value (A97)


hi guys,
 
I need to set the selected item of a combobox to a random value when
user clicks a commandbutton.  e.g. [Select random gift] button sets the
Gift: combo next to it to a random value (between 1 and listcount-1!)
 
Since listindex is readonly can anyone tell me how to do this?
 
tia
bruce
 
 
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From ssharkins at bellsouth.net  Fri Jun 24 10:11:11 2005
From: ssharkins at bellsouth.net (Susan Harkins)
Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2005 11:11:11 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Re: Normalizing issue
In-Reply-To: <200506241451.j5OEpaXb311954@pimout4-ext.prodigy.net>
Message-ID: <20050624151119.KABQ11957.ibm56aec.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>

This is pro bono -- no paycheck. :) I'm also doing it in my spare time -- as
I can -- so there's no time pressure. Ultimately, I will be the only user
unless other regions decide they like it too. Everything I do for me -- but
I do need to keep in mind that it might grow -- it's a consideration. 

I think I'm going with one table. Tomorrow, I may change my mind. :)

Susan H.  


While also keeping in mind just how much you are being paid to do this
job...




From prodevmg at yahoo.com  Fri Jun 24 10:17:00 2005
From: prodevmg at yahoo.com (Lonnie Johnson)
Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2005 08:17:00 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [AccessD] SQL "Like" question.
In-Reply-To: <916187228923D311A6FE00A0CC3FAA30ABEC7B@ADGSERVER>
Message-ID: <20050624151701.44779.qmail@web33112.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Yes, the brackets are reserved for enclosing table, query and field names. You may also want to look out for the tick mark or single quotation mark ('). This can trick your code to thinking you have jumped out of the SQL String. For example the name O'Hare.

Bobby Heid <bheid at appdevgrp.com> wrote:Hey,

I have a search screen for an app that has several combo boxes that when the
user clicks the Find button, it builds a SQL query based upon the criteria
that the users have selected. The user can also use wild cards in the combo
boxes such as 'Carlton*'. Since they can use wild cards, I use LIKE when
building the SQL statement.

I got an email from a user today asking why a given project search was
returning no records. I looked at the data and this is what they were
searching for: 'Carlton [D]'. I suspected the data so I removed the
brackets from around the 'D' and the query worked fine.

My question is, is the bracket a special character? Are there other
characters that I need to watch out for? I know about the wild card
characters '*', '?', and the '#' character.

Thanks,
Bobby

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From jimdettman at earthlink.net  Fri Jun 24 10:43:05 2005
From: jimdettman at earthlink.net (Jim Dettman)
Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2005 11:43:05 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Re: Normalizing issue
In-Reply-To: <20050624151119.KABQ11957.ibm56aec.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>
Message-ID: <NDEALJOEGMMPCDKIFGNFKEHHDKAA.jimdettman@earthlink.net>

Susan,

 John made and excellent point (pay check).  There is also that always fine
line of what a client really needs vs what they can really afford.  As long
as everyone is aware of the limitations that will be imposed by a particular
design, then "best" is not always "better".

<<I think I'm going with one table. Tomorrow, I may change my mind. :)>>

  That's what I'd do<g>.  I also leave design notes within the app on why a
given approach was used and how it could have been made better.  That helps
who ever maintains it down the road understand why it is the way it is.

Jim.

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Susan Harkins
Sent: Friday, June 24, 2005 11:11 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Re: Normalizing issue


This is pro bono -- no paycheck. :) I'm also doing it in my spare time -- as
I can -- so there's no time pressure. Ultimately, I will be the only user
unless other regions decide they like it too. Everything I do for me -- but
I do need to keep in mind that it might grow -- it's a consideration.

I think I'm going with one table. Tomorrow, I may change my mind. :)

Susan H.


While also keeping in mind just how much you are being paid to do this
job...


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From andy at minstersystems.co.uk  Fri Jun 24 12:43:19 2005
From: andy at minstersystems.co.uk (Andy Lacey)
Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2005 17:43:19 -0000
Subject: [AccessD] Setting ListIndex value (A97)
In-Reply-To: <F2BE8EAB3EA585418337B71BCE6F3BF304EBD4@msmet100.rail.nsw.gov.au>
Message-ID: <000001c2b2b4$a6c80920$36530c54@minster33c3r25>

Bruce

IIRC you need to do something like Me!lstControl.Selected(randomnuber)=True

-- Andy Lacey
http://www.minstersystems.co.uk 

> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com 
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of 
> Bruen, Bruce
> Sent: 24 June 2005 07:38
> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> Subject: [AccessD] Setting ListIndex value (A97)
> 
> 
> hi guys,
>  
> I need to set the selected item of a combobox to a random 
> value when user clicks a commandbutton.  e.g. [Select random 
> gift] button sets the
> Gift: combo next to it to a random value (between 1 and listcount-1!)
>  
> Since listindex is readonly can anyone tell me how to do this?
>  
> tia
> bruce
>  
>  
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From bheid at appdevgrp.com  Fri Jun 24 13:16:56 2005
From: bheid at appdevgrp.com (Bobby Heid)
Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2005 14:16:56 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] SQL "Like" question.
In-Reply-To: <916187228923D311A6FE00A0CC3FAA30BFF288@ADGSERVER>
Message-ID: <916187228923D311A6FE00A0CC3FAA30ABEC81@ADGSERVER>

Thanks.  I did not even think about it in terms of enclosing table names.  I
already handle the tick mark thingy.

Bobby

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Lonnie Johnson
Sent: Friday, June 24, 2005 11:17 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] SQL "Like" question.


Yes, the brackets are reserved for enclosing table, query and field names.
You may also want to look out for the tick mark or single quotation mark
('). This can trick your code to thinking you have jumped out of the SQL
String. For example the name O'Hare.

Bobby Heid <bheid at appdevgrp.com> wrote:Hey,

I have a search screen for an app that has several combo boxes that when the
user clicks the Find button, it builds a SQL query based upon the criteria
that the users have selected. The user can also use wild cards in the combo
boxes such as 'Carlton*'. Since they can use wild cards, I use LIKE when
building the SQL statement.

I got an email from a user today asking why a given project search was
returning no records. I looked at the data and this is what they were
searching for: 'Carlton [D]'. I suspected the data so I removed the brackets
from around the 'D' and the query worked fine.

My question is, is the bracket a special character? Are there other
characters that I need to watch out for? I know about the wild card
characters '*', '?', and the '#' character.

Thanks,
Bobby



From bchacc at san.rr.com  Fri Jun 24 13:20:36 2005
From: bchacc at san.rr.com (Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software)
Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2005 11:20:36 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Turn Off Help Box in Access 2003
References: <2FDE83AF1A69C84796CBD13788DDA88349ACDE@BONHAM.AD.UWS.EDU.AU>
	<42BBADF2.5080706@shaw.ca>
Message-ID: <01b701c578e9$6ad2cc40$6701a8c0@HAL9004>

Marty:

Thanks.  I also found this and it worked.  I turned it off through the 
Customize.  I have to take the mde to another machine and see if the setting 
follows it - if it's for the app or the installation of Office.  But your 
code is exactly what I was looking for.

Rocky

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "MartyConnelly" <martyconnelly at shaw.ca>
To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving" 
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Thursday, June 23, 2005 11:53 PM
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Turn Off Help Box in Access 2003


> Ah that Thingy Dingy! I thought it was the  ?  next to the max minimize 
> icons on a form
> not the Access menu command bar.
> This will toggle it in code, found name in object browser then looked it 
> up in help.
>
> Sub ToggleAskQuestionDropdown()
>    With Application.CommandBars
>        If .DisableAskAQuestionDropdown = True Then
>            .DisableAskAQuestionDropdown = False
>            Debug.Print "ask question turned on"
>        Else
>            .DisableAskAQuestionDropdown = True
>             Debug.Print "ask question turned Off"
>        End If
>    End With
> End Sub
>
> Darren Dick wrote:
>
>>Are you Guys talking about the same thing?
>>Marty seems to be talking about the What's this Button
>>Rocky is referring to the Small Search Field Just to the top right of
>>any open screen (A Unique 2003 Feature)
>>That's near the Close|Min/Max|Restore Buttons
>>
>>DD
>>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>>[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Rocky Smolin
>>- Beach Access Software
>>Sent: Friday, June 24, 2005 1:14 PM
>>To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
>>Subject: Re: [AccessD] Turn Off Help Box in Access 2003
>>
>>MinMax Buttons None.  Close button no. What's this No.  Everything
>>disappears but the help box.  And in the mde, the DoCmd.Maximize doesn't
>>work.  So the form doesn't open maximized.  But it works for you.  I
>>wonder what's going on.  I'm pretty sure the form isn't corrupted.
>>
>>Rocky
>>
>>----- Original Message -----
>>From: "MartyConnelly" <martyconnelly at shaw.ca>
>>To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving" 
>><accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
>>Sent: Thursday, June 23, 2005 7:26 PM
>>Subject: Re: [AccessD] Turn Off Help Box in Access 2003
>>
>>
>>
>>>Works for me in Access 2003
>>>Min Max Buttons     No
>>>Whats this button    No
>>>As a matter of fact on a basic virgin form it will squawk to you that
>>>
>>it
>>>will not let you turn ON the
>>>the Whats This Button to Yes unless MinMax is set to None.
>>>
>>>Maybe a corrupted form or you have turned on an odd
>>>
>>Application.SetOption
>>
>>>
>>>
>>>Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>Marty:
>>>>
>>>>Didn't work.  The help box ( which is a new feature in A2K3) still
>>>>
>>shows.
>>
>>>>Rocky
>>>>
>>>>----- Original Message ----- From: "MartyConnelly" 
>>>><martyconnelly at shaw.ca>
>>>>To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving" 
>>>><accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
>>>>Sent: Thursday, June 23, 2005 11:14 AM
>>>>Subject: Re: [AccessD] Turn Off Help Box in Access 2003
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>What's This? This property of the form  can only be turned on by
>>>>>
>>default
>>>>>to Yes when MinMax property set to No
>>>>>So just set Form property What's This to No.
>>>>>
>>>>>Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>Dear List:
>>>>>>In access 2003 up in the right corner by the maximize, minimize and
>>>>>>
>>
>>
>>>>>>close buttons there's a help box.  Does anyone know the syntax for 
>>>>>>turning this thing off through code?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>MTIA
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Rocky Smolin
>>>>>>Beach Access Software
>>>>>>http://www.e-z-mrp.com
>>>>>>858-259-4334
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>-- 
>>>>>Marty Connelly
>>>>>Victoria, B.C.
>>>>>Canada
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
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>>>>>
>>>-- 
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>>>Victoria, B.C.
>>>Canada
>>>
>>>
>>>
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>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
> -- 
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> Victoria, B.C.
> Canada
>
>
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From bchacc at san.rr.com  Fri Jun 24 13:35:53 2005
From: bchacc at san.rr.com (Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software)
Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2005 11:35:53 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Turn Off Help Box in Access 2003
References: <2FDE83AF1A69C84796CBD13788DDA88349ACDE@BONHAM.AD.UWS.EDU.AU>
	<42BBADF2.5080706@shaw.ca> <01b701c578e9$6ad2cc40$6701a8c0@HAL9004>
Message-ID: <020e01c578eb$8d97f140$6701a8c0@HAL9004>

Marty:

What I meant was I also found this: 
http://www.annoyances.org/exec/show/article08-101 and finally figured out 
how to follow their directions.

Rocky


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software" <bchacc at san.rr.com>
To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving" 
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Friday, June 24, 2005 11:20 AM
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Turn Off Help Box in Access 2003


> Marty:
>
> Thanks.  I also found this and it worked.  I turned it off through the 
> Customize.  I have to take the mde to another machine and see if the 
> setting follows it - if it's for the app or the installation of Office. 
> But your code is exactly what I was looking for.
>
> Rocky
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "MartyConnelly" <martyconnelly at shaw.ca>
> To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving" 
> <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
> Sent: Thursday, June 23, 2005 11:53 PM
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] Turn Off Help Box in Access 2003
>
>
>> Ah that Thingy Dingy! I thought it was the  ?  next to the max minimize 
>> icons on a form
>> not the Access menu command bar.
>> This will toggle it in code, found name in object browser then looked it 
>> up in help.
>>
>> Sub ToggleAskQuestionDropdown()
>>    With Application.CommandBars
>>        If .DisableAskAQuestionDropdown = True Then
>>            .DisableAskAQuestionDropdown = False
>>            Debug.Print "ask question turned on"
>>        Else
>>            .DisableAskAQuestionDropdown = True
>>             Debug.Print "ask question turned Off"
>>        End If
>>    End With
>> End Sub
>>
>> Darren Dick wrote:
>>
>>>Are you Guys talking about the same thing?
>>>Marty seems to be talking about the What's this Button
>>>Rocky is referring to the Small Search Field Just to the top right of
>>>any open screen (A Unique 2003 Feature)
>>>That's near the Close|Min/Max|Restore Buttons
>>>
>>>DD
>>>
>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>>>[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Rocky Smolin
>>>- Beach Access Software
>>>Sent: Friday, June 24, 2005 1:14 PM
>>>To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
>>>Subject: Re: [AccessD] Turn Off Help Box in Access 2003
>>>
>>>MinMax Buttons None.  Close button no. What's this No.  Everything
>>>disappears but the help box.  And in the mde, the DoCmd.Maximize doesn't
>>>work.  So the form doesn't open maximized.  But it works for you.  I
>>>wonder what's going on.  I'm pretty sure the form isn't corrupted.
>>>
>>>Rocky
>>>
>>>----- Original Message -----
>>>From: "MartyConnelly" <martyconnelly at shaw.ca>
>>>To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving" 
>>><accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
>>>Sent: Thursday, June 23, 2005 7:26 PM
>>>Subject: Re: [AccessD] Turn Off Help Box in Access 2003
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>Works for me in Access 2003
>>>>Min Max Buttons     No
>>>>Whats this button    No
>>>>As a matter of fact on a basic virgin form it will squawk to you that
>>>>
>>>it
>>>>will not let you turn ON the
>>>>the Whats This Button to Yes unless MinMax is set to None.
>>>>
>>>>Maybe a corrupted form or you have turned on an odd
>>>>
>>>Application.SetOption
>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>Marty:
>>>>>
>>>>>Didn't work.  The help box ( which is a new feature in A2K3) still
>>>>>
>>>shows.
>>>
>>>>>Rocky
>>>>>
>>>>>----- Original Message ----- From: "MartyConnelly" 
>>>>><martyconnelly at shaw.ca>
>>>>>To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving" 
>>>>><accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
>>>>>Sent: Thursday, June 23, 2005 11:14 AM
>>>>>Subject: Re: [AccessD] Turn Off Help Box in Access 2003
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>What's This? This property of the form  can only be turned on by
>>>>>>
>>>default
>>>>>>to Yes when MinMax property set to No
>>>>>>So just set Form property What's This to No.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Dear List:
>>>>>>>In access 2003 up in the right corner by the maximize, minimize and
>>>>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>>>>close buttons there's a help box.  Does anyone know the syntax for 
>>>>>>>turning this thing off through code?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>MTIA
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Rocky Smolin
>>>>>>>Beach Access Software
>>>>>>>http://www.e-z-mrp.com
>>>>>>>858-259-4334
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>-- 
>>>>>>Marty Connelly
>>>>>>Victoria, B.C.
>>>>>>Canada
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
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>>>
>>>
>>
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From jmhecht at earthlink.net  Fri Jun 24 23:17:17 2005
From: jmhecht at earthlink.net (Joe Hecht)
Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2005 21:17:17 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Import from FoxPro
In-Reply-To: <66ABA669023AE74B97746FD8E684392010175C@c2k3exchange.pgdp.corp.usec.com>
Message-ID: <000201c5793c$c6381510$6401a8c0@laptop1>

I have had to through Excel sometimes for FP Tables.

Check your properties after importing to Access

Joe Hecht
Los Angeles CA

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Hollis,Virginia
Sent: Friday, June 24, 2005 4:40 AM
To: accessD at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [AccessD] Import from FoxPro

Ok, what is the secret to importing from FoxPro to Access 2003? It is
not in the list of types anymore. I looked through the KB articles but
still have problems.

 

I pulled the tables up in Visual FoxPro, saved them out as dBase IV
files, and then tried to import them into Access 2003.  I got the
message:

 

"Unexpected Error from External Database Driver (8961)"

 

I was able to create an ODBC datasource based on a FoxPro driver that
was already on my computer.  I tried to import the tables, and it looked
like it was going to do it, but then I got an error, "Decimal field
precision too small...

 

I'm running out of ideas.

 

Virginia

 

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From ralphb at cwgsy.net  Sat Jun 25 01:27:02 2005
From: ralphb at cwgsy.net (Ralph Bryce)
Date: Sat, 25 Jun 2005 07:27:02 +0100
Subject: [AccessD] Import from FoxPro
In-Reply-To: <66ABA669023AE74B97746FD8E684392010175C@c2k3exchange.pgdp.c
	orp.usec.com>
Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.0.20050625072058.044a3eb0@mail.cwgsy.net>

Virginia

Have you looked at these articles?

http://office.microsoft.com/en-us/assistance/HA010546701033.aspx

http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=197893

Ralph Bryce

At 06:40 24/06/2005 -0500, you wrote:

>Ok, what is the secret to importing from FoxPro to Access 2003? It is
>not in the list of types anymore. I looked through the KB articles but
>still have problems.

::
::

>Virginia




From artful at rogers.com  Sat Jun 25 11:27:31 2005
From: artful at rogers.com (Arthur Fuller)
Date: Sat, 25 Jun 2005 12:27:31 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Error in Access 2003 that I've never seen before
In-Reply-To: <020e01c578eb$8d97f140$6701a8c0@HAL9004>
Message-ID: <200506251627.j5PGRYR09998@databaseadvisors.com>

Perhaps I've just been lucky, but I have never seen this error before. I'm
trying to delete a bad record in a data table, and I get the message "The
search key was not found in any record." I clicked Help and it told me
"Error 3709 -- The error occurs when an ISAM Seek is being executed and
there are no matching values in the index."

The value in question was in an autonumber column that was the PK of the
table.

I tried a bunch of different things such as removing the PK and all indexes
but none of them worked. Finally I Saved As to a new table name (without the
indexes) and in the new table I was able to delete the bad record. So I
removed all the relationships to the bad table, renamed it, and renamed the
copy to the original name. Finally I reimposed all the relationships, and
now everything works properly again.

Since I am up and running again, I am fine I suppose. But I am most puzzled
as to why this error occurred in the first place. Anyone got any ideas on
this?

Arthur



From accessd at shaw.ca  Sat Jun 25 13:06:34 2005
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Sat, 25 Jun 2005 11:06:34 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Error in Access 2003 that I've never seen before
In-Reply-To: <200506251627.j5PGRYR09998@databaseadvisors.com>
Message-ID: <0IIN0056RJMUMZ@l-daemon>

Hi Arthur:

It could be that the record you are trying to delete is not being referenced
properly; either the field named used is not correct or the table is
corrupted. It would be caused if the table index did not matching the table
data. I have only seen it once and I resolved it by exporting all the data
into a new table, deleting the old and then renaming the new table. Using
that method excluded a coding or table structure error. Conclusion; Either
the data or index was corrupted.

HTH
Jim 

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Arthur Fuller
Sent: Saturday, June 25, 2005 9:28 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] Error in Access 2003 that I've never seen before

Perhaps I've just been lucky, but I have never seen this error before. I'm
trying to delete a bad record in a data table, and I get the message "The
search key was not found in any record." I clicked Help and it told me
"Error 3709 -- The error occurs when an ISAM Seek is being executed and
there are no matching values in the index."

The value in question was in an autonumber column that was the PK of the
table.

I tried a bunch of different things such as removing the PK and all indexes
but none of them worked. Finally I Saved As to a new table name (without the
indexes) and in the new table I was able to delete the bad record. So I
removed all the relationships to the bad table, renamed it, and renamed the
copy to the original name. Finally I reimposed all the relationships, and
now everything works properly again.

Since I am up and running again, I am fine I suppose. But I am most puzzled
as to why this error occurred in the first place. Anyone got any ideas on
this?

Arthur

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From artful at rogers.com  Sat Jun 25 16:38:31 2005
From: artful at rogers.com (Arthur Fuller)
Date: Sat, 25 Jun 2005 17:38:31 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Error in Access 2003 that I've never seen before
In-Reply-To: <0IIN0056RJMUMZ@l-daemon>
Message-ID: <200506252138.j5PLcUR16468@databaseadvisors.com>

I tend to agree, but two puzzles remain (purely in an academic sense -- I
don't play to lose sleep over them).

1. The data can't be corrupted since the "bad record" copied intact to the
Saved As table.

2. With all the indexes removed, why was it doing an ISAM Seek? One would
have thought that in the absence of indexes, it would be forced to do a
table scan. Perhaps that just reveals how little I understand ISAM tables.
LOL.

Arthur

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim Lawrence
Sent: June 25, 2005 2:07 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Error in Access 2003 that I've never seen before

Hi Arthur:

It could be that the record you are trying to delete is not being referenced
properly; either the field named used is not correct or the table is
corrupted. It would be caused if the table index did not matching the table
data. I have only seen it once and I resolved it by exporting all the data
into a new table, deleting the old and then renaming the new table. Using
that method excluded a coding or table structure error. Conclusion; Either
the data or index was corrupted.

HTH
Jim 



From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com  Sat Jun 25 16:49:14 2005
From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (John W. Colby)
Date: Sat, 25 Jun 2005 17:49:14 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Error in Access 2003 that I've never seen before
In-Reply-To: <200506252138.j5PLcUR16468@databaseadvisors.com>
Message-ID: <000801c579cf$ba680ea0$6c7aa8c0@ColbyM6805>

If this is an Access container you are discussing, any field used in a
relationship has an index created on that field by the Jet engine as the
relationship is created.  This index is hidden.  It simply cannot be seen in
any way that I am aware of.  Thus if you are discussing a field like this,
there is likely that hidden index still in existence.

John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com 

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-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Arthur Fuller
Sent: Saturday, June 25, 2005 5:39 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Error in Access 2003 that I've never seen before


I tend to agree, but two puzzles remain (purely in an academic sense -- I
don't play to lose sleep over them).

1. The data can't be corrupted since the "bad record" copied intact to the
Saved As table.

2. With all the indexes removed, why was it doing an ISAM Seek? One would
have thought that in the absence of indexes, it would be forced to do a
table scan. Perhaps that just reveals how little I understand ISAM tables.
LOL.

Arthur

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim Lawrence
Sent: June 25, 2005 2:07 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Error in Access 2003 that I've never seen before

Hi Arthur:

It could be that the record you are trying to delete is not being referenced
properly; either the field named used is not correct or the table is
corrupted. It would be caused if the table index did not matching the table
data. I have only seen it once and I resolved it by exporting all the data
into a new table, deleting the old and then renaming the new table. Using
that method excluded a coding or table structure error. Conclusion; Either
the data or index was corrupted.

HTH
Jim 

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From accessd at shaw.ca  Sat Jun 25 19:08:56 2005
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Sat, 25 Jun 2005 17:08:56 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Error in Access 2003 that I've never seen before
In-Reply-To: <000801c579cf$ba680ea0$6c7aa8c0@ColbyM6805>
Message-ID: <0IIO0030P0ESXW@l-daemon>

Hi John:

Yes, I could not have said it better as that is the obvious reason.

Jim

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of John W. Colby
Sent: Saturday, June 25, 2005 2:49 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Error in Access 2003 that I've never seen before

If this is an Access container you are discussing, any field used in a
relationship has an index created on that field by the Jet engine as the
relationship is created.  This index is hidden.  It simply cannot be seen in
any way that I am aware of.  Thus if you are discussing a field like this,
there is likely that hidden index still in existence.

John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com 

Contribute your unused CPU cycles to a good cause:
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-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Arthur Fuller
Sent: Saturday, June 25, 2005 5:39 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Error in Access 2003 that I've never seen before


I tend to agree, but two puzzles remain (purely in an academic sense -- I
don't play to lose sleep over them).

1. The data can't be corrupted since the "bad record" copied intact to the
Saved As table.

2. With all the indexes removed, why was it doing an ISAM Seek? One would
have thought that in the absence of indexes, it would be forced to do a
table scan. Perhaps that just reveals how little I understand ISAM tables.
LOL.

Arthur

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim Lawrence
Sent: June 25, 2005 2:07 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Error in Access 2003 that I've never seen before

Hi Arthur:

It could be that the record you are trying to delete is not being referenced
properly; either the field named used is not correct or the table is
corrupted. It would be caused if the table index did not matching the table
data. I have only seen it once and I resolved it by exporting all the data
into a new table, deleting the old and then renaming the new table. Using
that method excluded a coding or table structure error. Conclusion; Either
the data or index was corrupted.

HTH
Jim 

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From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com  Sat Jun 25 19:34:13 2005
From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (John W. Colby)
Date: Sat, 25 Jun 2005 20:34:13 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Drilling down with ADO
Message-ID: <000901c579e6$c6e71880$6c7aa8c0@ColbyM6805>

One of the things that has always fascinated me is the concept (never
actually implemented) of using DAO to "drill down" into a bound control to
discover what field and table the object is bound to, and after that
"drilling down" into that field in the table to discover what datatype the
control is displaying.  For example, a control could be bound to a field
whose datatype is date.  You could have a rule that "all dates should be
displayed in YYYMMDD format", but in the future the powers that be could
decide that they wanted DDMMYYYY.  If you have ever designed a large system,
or worse inherited one, you can probably relate to trying to find all such
controls in a large system and changing the format from whatever the
developer applied (or didn't apply) to a standard format.  Some controls may
have a format in the format property, others may depend on format strings
applied to the field at the database level.  Others may have no specific
format, relying on the windows default.

I believe that it is possible to perform this function with DAO but is it
possible with ADO?  To my knowledge only ADO can access properties of
objects stored in a database container (a form or control).  As for fields
in tables, I know that DAO can do so, I have no idea whether ADO could
return the data type of a field in a table.  Is this possible?

John W. Colby
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From dejpolsys at hotmail.com  Sat Jun 25 20:50:24 2005
From: dejpolsys at hotmail.com (William Hindman)
Date: Sat, 25 Jun 2005 21:50:24 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Error in Access 2003 that I've never seen before
References: <0IIO0030P0ESXW@l-daemon>
Message-ID: <BAY103-DAV11B762E030AC3F584BEAADAEEF0@phx.gbl>

..would a decompile redo those indexes? ...I'm seeing what I consider as an 
unusually high number of errors in xp to 2003 conversions on a number of 
mdbs.

William

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Jim Lawrence" <accessd at shaw.ca>
To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'" 
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Saturday, June 25, 2005 8:08 PM
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Error in Access 2003 that I've never seen before


> Hi John:
>
> Yes, I could not have said it better as that is the obvious reason.
>
> Jim
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of John W. Colby
> Sent: Saturday, June 25, 2005 2:49 PM
> To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
> Subject: RE: [AccessD] Error in Access 2003 that I've never seen before
>
> If this is an Access container you are discussing, any field used in a
> relationship has an index created on that field by the Jet engine as the
> relationship is created.  This index is hidden.  It simply cannot be seen 
> in
> any way that I am aware of.  Thus if you are discussing a field like this,
> there is likely that hidden index still in existence.
>
> John W. Colby
> www.ColbyConsulting.com
>
> Contribute your unused CPU cycles to a good cause:
> http://folding.stanford.edu/
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Arthur Fuller
> Sent: Saturday, June 25, 2005 5:39 PM
> To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
> Subject: RE: [AccessD] Error in Access 2003 that I've never seen before
>
>
> I tend to agree, but two puzzles remain (purely in an academic sense -- I
> don't play to lose sleep over them).
>
> 1. The data can't be corrupted since the "bad record" copied intact to the
> Saved As table.
>
> 2. With all the indexes removed, why was it doing an ISAM Seek? One would
> have thought that in the absence of indexes, it would be forced to do a
> table scan. Perhaps that just reveals how little I understand ISAM tables.
> LOL.
>
> Arthur
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim Lawrence
> Sent: June 25, 2005 2:07 PM
> To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
> Subject: RE: [AccessD] Error in Access 2003 that I've never seen before
>
> Hi Arthur:
>
> It could be that the record you are trying to delete is not being 
> referenced
> properly; either the field named used is not correct or the table is
> corrupted. It would be caused if the table index did not matching the 
> table
> data. I have only seen it once and I resolved it by exporting all the data
> into a new table, deleting the old and then renaming the new table. Using
> that method excluded a coding or table structure error. Conclusion; Either
> the data or index was corrupted.
>
> HTH
> Jim
>
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From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com  Sat Jun 25 20:55:41 2005
From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (John W. Colby)
Date: Sat, 25 Jun 2005 21:55:41 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Error in Access 2003 that I've never seen before
In-Reply-To: <BAY103-DAV11B762E030AC3F584BEAADAEEF0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <000a01c579f2$288b9510$6c7aa8c0@ColbyM6805>

I doubt it seriously.  Decompile throws out the pcode streams built up from
compiling code and thus flushes the container of any "compiled or partially
compiled" code which will force a compile to start from scratch the next
time one is issued.  Indexes have nothing to do with code streams.

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-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of William Hindman
Sent: Saturday, June 25, 2005 9:50 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Error in Access 2003 that I've never seen before


..would a decompile redo those indexes? ...I'm seeing what I consider as an 
unusually high number of errors in xp to 2003 conversions on a number of 
mdbs.

William

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Jim Lawrence" <accessd at shaw.ca>
To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'" 
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Saturday, June 25, 2005 8:08 PM
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Error in Access 2003 that I've never seen before


> Hi John:
>
> Yes, I could not have said it better as that is the obvious reason.
>
> Jim
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of John W. 
> Colby
> Sent: Saturday, June 25, 2005 2:49 PM
> To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
> Subject: RE: [AccessD] Error in Access 2003 that I've never seen before
>
> If this is an Access container you are discussing, any field used in a 
> relationship has an index created on that field by the Jet engine as 
> the relationship is created.  This index is hidden.  It simply cannot 
> be seen in any way that I am aware of.  Thus if you are discussing a 
> field like this, there is likely that hidden index still in existence.
>
> John W. Colby
> www.ColbyConsulting.com
>
> Contribute your unused CPU cycles to a good cause: 
> http://folding.stanford.edu/
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Arthur 
> Fuller
> Sent: Saturday, June 25, 2005 5:39 PM
> To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
> Subject: RE: [AccessD] Error in Access 2003 that I've never seen before
>
>
> I tend to agree, but two puzzles remain (purely in an academic sense 
> -- I don't play to lose sleep over them).
>
> 1. The data can't be corrupted since the "bad record" copied intact to 
> the Saved As table.
>
> 2. With all the indexes removed, why was it doing an ISAM Seek? One 
> would have thought that in the absence of indexes, it would be forced 
> to do a table scan. Perhaps that just reveals how little I understand 
> ISAM tables. LOL.
>
> Arthur
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim 
> Lawrence
> Sent: June 25, 2005 2:07 PM
> To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
> Subject: RE: [AccessD] Error in Access 2003 that I've never seen before
>
> Hi Arthur:
>
> It could be that the record you are trying to delete is not being
> referenced
> properly; either the field named used is not correct or the table is
> corrupted. It would be caused if the table index did not matching the 
> table
> data. I have only seen it once and I resolved it by exporting all the data
> into a new table, deleting the old and then renaming the new table. Using
> that method excluded a coding or table structure error. Conclusion; Either
> the data or index was corrupted.
>
> HTH
> Jim
>
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From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com  Sat Jun 25 21:01:05 2005
From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (John W. Colby)
Date: Sat, 25 Jun 2005 22:01:05 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] DropMyRights
Message-ID: <000b01c579f2$e9a55420$6c7aa8c0@ColbyM6805>

Very interesting tool out there for running anything that interfaces with
the internet under reduced rights so that malicious code doesn't have
administrator rights.

http://nonadmin.editme.com/DropMyRights

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From stuart at lexacorp.com.pg  Sat Jun 25 22:43:10 2005
From: stuart at lexacorp.com.pg (Stuart McLachlan)
Date: Sun, 26 Jun 2005 13:43:10 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] Drilling down with ADO
In-Reply-To: <000901c579e6$c6e71880$6c7aa8c0@ColbyM6805>
Message-ID: <42BEB0EE.17070.E6E73B9@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>

On 25 Jun 2005 at 20:34, John W. Colby wrote:

> objects stored in a database container (a form or control).  As for fields
> in tables, I know that DAO can do so, I have no idea whether ADO could
> return the data type of a field in a table.  Is this possible?
> 

Function ListFieldTypes()
Dim cnn As ADODB.Connection
Dim rst As New ADODB.Recordset
Dim lngLoopcount As Long

Set cnn = CurrentProject.Connection
rst.ActiveConnection = cnn
rst.Open Source:="tbltest", ActiveConnection:=cnn
For lngLoopcount = 0 To rst.Fields.Count - 1
   Debug.Print rst.Fields(lngLoopcount).Type
Next
End Function

Type returns a constant defined in  ADODB.DataTypeEnum

 ' ADODB.DataTypeEnum
Const adBigInt = 20
Const adBinary = 128
Const adBoolean = 11
Const adBSTR = 8
Const adChapter = 136
Const adChar = 129
Const adCurrency = 6
Const adDate = 7
Const adDBDate = 133
Const adDBFileTime = 137
Const adDBTime = 134
Const adDBTimeStamp = 135
Const adDecimal = 14
Const adDouble = 5
Const adEmpty = 0
Const adError = 10
Const adFileTime = 64
Const adGUID = 72
Const adIDispatch = 9
Const adInteger = 3
Const adIUnknown = 13
Const adLongVarBinary = 205
Const adLongVarChar = 201
Const adLongVarWChar = 203 
Const adNumeric = 131
Const adPropVariant = 138 
Const adSingle = 4
Const adSmallInt = 2
Const adTinyInt = 16
Const adUnsignedBigInt = 21
Const adUnsignedInt = 19
Const adUnsignedSmallInt = 18
Const adUnsignedTinyInt = 17
Const adUserDefined = 132
Const adVarBinary = 204
Const adVarChar = 200
Const adVariant = 12
Const adVarNumeric = 139
Const adVarWChar = 202
Const adWChar = 130
-- 
Stuart




From Gustav at cactus.dk  Sun Jun 26 03:32:26 2005
From: Gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Sun, 26 Jun 2005 10:32:26 +0200
Subject: [AccessD] Relationship and hidden index (was: Error in Access 2003
	that I've never seen before)
Message-ID: <s2be844e.016@cactus.dk>

Hi John

>>> jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com 06/25 11:49 pm >>>
If this is an Access container you are discussing, any field used in a
relationship has an index created on that field by the Jet engine as
the
relationship is created.  This index is hidden.  It simply cannot be
seen in
any way that I am aware of.  Thus if you are discussing a field like
this,
there is likely that hidden index still in existence.

---

If not seen, they can be listed.
Here's an old posting of mine:

From: 	Gustav Brock
To:	AccessD at databaseadvisors.com 
Date: 	2001-09-04 11:40:00
Subject: 	Re: [AccessD] indexes in keys

Hi Susan and Mike

> I'm a little confused about indexes where keys are concerned. Jet
> indexes keys -- primary and foreign. When does it index a foreign
key
> and is this an internal function as there's no evidence in the
table's
> Indexed property. I'm assuming it's a temporary index, created as
> needed. Is this correct?

No, the index is not temporary.

I hate to quote myself but this time it is necessary.

Way back - on the old MT Group list - I posted the message below. The
problem is that, although the article referred to can still be found
on
the MS site, it has been edited down and all the notes (the real
stuff)
are gone.

The article has moved, and now is found at:

http://support.microsoft.com/support/kb/articles/Q116/1/45.asp 

The issue is, as Mike states, the hidden indexes. If you move along as
the disciplined developer doing as you have learned, creating indexes
then relations, you end up with duplicate indexes.
>From an advanced user's view this may be a nice feature with
automatically created indexes when needed, but why hide these? Stupid.

Anyway, here's the quote from 1999-09-04, exactly two years ago:

<quote>

Hi Larry,

> .. take a look at MSKB article Q116145 "Create and Drop Tables
> and Relationships Using SQL DDL"

http://technet.microsoft.com/cdonline/default-f.asp?target=http://technet.microsoft.com/cdonline/content/complete/srvnetwk/SQL/Technote/msjet/jetch03.htm


I did that, but I don't think this is what John is looking for:

Setting a referential integrity foreign key constraint is the only form
of
relationship that can be established through SQL DDL. To set other
Relation
object types, such as cascading updates or cascading deletes, you must
create
the Relation object through DAO.


Further, the article states as we might suspect:

There is no way to modify an existing relationship. You must delete
the
relationship and then re-create it.


NB: Finally it states this very interesting detail which I wasn't aware
of:

In the SQL DDL example shown earlier in this chapter, creating a new
relationship between two tables involves creating an index on the
foreign key
field. When you create a new Relation object by using DAO, Microsoft
Jet
automatically creates an index on the foreign key field or fields, even
if one
already exists. If you create a relationship between two tables with
referential
integrity enforced, avoid creating an index on the foreign key, as it
will be a
duplicate index. The foreign key index is necessary for enforcing
referential
integrity, so don't delete it. The index that's created on the foreign
key when
you create a relationship appears in the Indexes collection of the
foreign
table.

I can confirm this!
This simple function (no copyright stated) created for the purpose:

Public Function ChkIndexes()

  Dim dbs As Database
  Dim tdf As TableDef
  Dim intI As Integer
  Dim intF As Integer

  Set dbs = CurrentDb()
  Set tdf = dbs.TableDefs("tblchild")

  For intI = 1 To tdf.Indexes.Count
    With tdf.Indexes(intI - 1)
      Debug.Print .Name
      For intF = 1 To .Fields.Count
        Debug.Print , .Fields(intF - 1).Name
      Next intF
    End With
  Next intI

End Function

- returns:

PrimaryKey
              ID
Sekunda
              FK
tblParenttblChild
              FK


Creating a relationship creates an index given a name from
concatenating the
names of the parent and the child table.
However, this - the third index here, tblParenttblChild - is not
showing up when
opening the table in design view!

So: How many of us are dealing with hidden duplicate indexes??

</quote>

/gustav



From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com  Sun Jun 26 08:07:24 2005
From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (John W. Colby)
Date: Sun, 26 Jun 2005 09:07:24 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Relationship and hidden index (was: Error in Access
	2003that I've never seen before)
In-Reply-To: <s2be844e.016@cactus.dk>
Message-ID: <000201c57a50$02b8b940$6c7aa8c0@ColbyM6805>

I figured that there was a way to see indexes via DAO since it can see
anything in the db, it's just not "visual".

Anyway, thanks for the code and here it is again (up at the top of the email
;), slightly modified to pass in a tablename:

Public Function ChkIndexes(strTblName As String)

  Dim dbs As Database
  Dim tdf As TableDef
  Dim intI As Integer
  Dim intF As Integer

  Set dbs = CurrentDb()
  Set tdf = dbs.TableDefs(strTblName)

  For intI = 1 To tdf.Indexes.Count
    With tdf.Indexes(intI - 1)
      Debug.Print .Name
      For intF = 1 To .Fields.Count
        Debug.Print , .Fields(intF - 1).Name
      Next intF
    End With
  Next intI

End Function

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-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gustav Brock
Sent: Sunday, June 26, 2005 4:32 AM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [AccessD] Relationship and hidden index (was: Error in Access
2003that I've never seen before)


Hi John

>>> jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com 06/25 11:49 pm >>>
If this is an Access container you are discussing, any field used in a
relationship has an index created on that field by the Jet engine as the
relationship is created.  This index is hidden.  It simply cannot be seen in
any way that I am aware of.  Thus if you are discussing a field like this,
there is likely that hidden index still in existence.

---

If not seen, they can be listed.
Here's an old posting of mine:




From ssharkins at bellsouth.net  Sun Jun 26 09:27:00 2005
From: ssharkins at bellsouth.net (Susan Harkins)
Date: Sun, 26 Jun 2005 10:27:00 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Good Code Bad Code Question
In-Reply-To: <E61FC1D4B1918244905B113C680BEA8689A46F@infoserver01.infostat.local>
Message-ID: <20050626142931.RNTM5167.ibm59aec.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>

Charlotte, renaming a database is supposed to force a decompile. When you
open, run Compile from the Debug window. It might be an easier shortcut for
some -- especially for those with really huge systems and path names that
include all kinds of weird convention names and stuff. I know I've always
used it -- rather than the command line switch. 

I'm having trouble with 2003 and 2002 -- just nothing's working all the
sudden. I ran an Office Repair, but they're both still wacky. I'm going to
have to reinstall -- can't see any way out of it. 

But, on a lark this morning, I tried a decompile using the rename trick on
one of the mdb's that's showing distress and I noticed that once it
recompiled, the Compile option on the Debug menu displayed the OLD name, not
the new one -- weird huh? So, I'm wondering if the rename decompile trick
really works as good as it's supposed to? Or, this could just be more of my
exe's wackiness. Anybody but me ever experienced this? 

Susan H. 

Joe,

To decompile, use a command line argument in opening the database.  That
means you have to fully reference the path of the Access executable and the
full path of the target database or the /decompile switch will be ignored.
After you open the Access database that way, close the Access session, then
reopen the database normally without the decompile switch, go to the VBE and
use Debug-->Compile... To recompile the app.  This clears out some crud that
may otherwise cause you grief.




From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com  Sun Jun 26 09:39:34 2005
From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (John W. Colby)
Date: Sun, 26 Jun 2005 10:39:34 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Good Code Bad Code Question
In-Reply-To: <20050626142931.RNTM5167.ibm59aec.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>
Message-ID: <000301c57a5c$e3c7cff0$6c7aa8c0@ColbyM6805>

Set up a shortcut with the /decompile
Open Access with the decompile switch using that shortcut.
Once Access opens, use the File/Open to open the database you wish to
decompile

John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com 

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-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Susan Harkins
Sent: Sunday, June 26, 2005 10:27 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Good Code Bad Code Question


Charlotte, renaming a database is supposed to force a decompile. When you
open, run Compile from the Debug window. It might be an easier shortcut for
some -- especially for those with really huge systems and path names that
include all kinds of weird convention names and stuff. I know I've always
used it -- rather than the command line switch. 

I'm having trouble with 2003 and 2002 -- just nothing's working all the
sudden. I ran an Office Repair, but they're both still wacky. I'm going to
have to reinstall -- can't see any way out of it. 

But, on a lark this morning, I tried a decompile using the rename trick on
one of the mdb's that's showing distress and I noticed that once it
recompiled, the Compile option on the Debug menu displayed the OLD name, not
the new one -- weird huh? So, I'm wondering if the rename decompile trick
really works as good as it's supposed to? Or, this could just be more of my
exe's wackiness. Anybody but me ever experienced this? 

Susan H. 

Joe,

To decompile, use a command line argument in opening the database.  That
means you have to fully reference the path of the Access executable and the
full path of the target database or the /decompile switch will be ignored.
After you open the Access database that way, close the Access session, then
reopen the database normally without the decompile switch, go to the VBE and
use Debug-->Compile... To recompile the app.  This clears out some crud that
may otherwise cause you grief.


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From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com  Sun Jun 26 09:44:07 2005
From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (John W. Colby)
Date: Sun, 26 Jun 2005 10:44:07 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Good Code Bad Code Question
In-Reply-To: <20050626142931.RNTM5167.ibm59aec.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>
Message-ID: <000401c57a5d$84a37820$6c7aa8c0@ColbyM6805>

Susan,

The name displayed on the top blue bar comes from several different places,
depending...

1) The name of the database container
2) Tools/Startup/Application Title
3) In the VBA Editor (looking at code) - Tools / Properties / General /
Project Name



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-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Susan Harkins
Sent: Sunday, June 26, 2005 10:27 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Good Code Bad Code Question


Charlotte, renaming a database is supposed to force a decompile. When you
open, run Compile from the Debug window. It might be an easier shortcut for
some -- especially for those with really huge systems and path names that
include all kinds of weird convention names and stuff. I know I've always
used it -- rather than the command line switch. 

I'm having trouble with 2003 and 2002 -- just nothing's working all the
sudden. I ran an Office Repair, but they're both still wacky. I'm going to
have to reinstall -- can't see any way out of it. 

But, on a lark this morning, I tried a decompile using the rename trick on
one of the mdb's that's showing distress and I noticed that once it
recompiled, the Compile option on the Debug menu displayed the OLD name, not
the new one -- weird huh? So, I'm wondering if the rename decompile trick
really works as good as it's supposed to? Or, this could just be more of my
exe's wackiness. Anybody but me ever experienced this? 

Susan H. 

Joe,

To decompile, use a command line argument in opening the database.  That
means you have to fully reference the path of the Access executable and the
full path of the target database or the /decompile switch will be ignored.
After you open the Access database that way, close the Access session, then
reopen the database normally without the decompile switch, go to the VBE and
use Debug-->Compile... To recompile the app.  This clears out some crud that
may otherwise cause you grief.


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From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com  Sun Jun 26 10:07:41 2005
From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (John W. Colby)
Date: Sun, 26 Jun 2005 11:07:41 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Word "insert picture" bug
Message-ID: <000501c57a60$cfc3c550$6c7aa8c0@ColbyM6805>

I am trying to insert a picture (bmp) into a word document.  I have already
inserted one and it worked fine.  This one only displays as much of the
BOTTOM of the picture as can fit on a line of text.  The rest of the picture
is invisible.  If you click on the picture, you can see the "resize
handles".  You can open the property box and see that it says the size
should be 4.33 x 4.65 inches.

What is going on here?

John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com 

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From artful at rogers.com  Sun Jun 26 10:23:19 2005
From: artful at rogers.com (Arthur Fuller)
Date: Sun, 26 Jun 2005 11:23:19 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Run External App from within Access
In-Reply-To: <000401c57a5d$84a37820$6c7aa8c0@ColbyM6805>
Message-ID: <200506261523.j5QFNNR03716@databaseadvisors.com>

I'm having a senior moment here today, folks. I cannot remember how to run
an external app from within Access. In this case it's a batch file.

Followup question.... Is there a way to specify an exit level (i.e.
errorlevel) when exiting an Access app? Suppose for example that Access is
being invoked from a batch file, and that I want to set an errorlevel of 1
or 0, then take action on this value in the batch file.

I.e.

MyBatch.cmd:
'run a simple Access app
MySimpleApp
'test its exit value
If errorlevel = 1 goto One
If errorlevel = 0 goto Done

:One
Rem Do something cool

:Done
Rem Do nothing at all


TIA,
Arthur



From ssharkins at bellsouth.net  Sun Jun 26 10:54:12 2005
From: ssharkins at bellsouth.net (Susan Harkins)
Date: Sun, 26 Jun 2005 11:54:12 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Good Code Bad Code Question
In-Reply-To: <000401c57a5d$84a37820$6c7aa8c0@ColbyM6805>
Message-ID: <20050626155412.GBHG11957.ibm56aec.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>

<blush>

3) In the VBA Editor (looking at code) - Tools / Properties / General /
Project Name

That was it -- thanks!

Susan H. 


But, on a lark this morning, I tried a decompile using the rename trick on
one of the mdb's that's showing distress and I noticed that once it
recompiled, the Compile option on the Debug menu displayed the OLD name, not
the new one -- weird huh? So, I'm wondering if the rename decompile trick
really works as good as it's supposed to? Or, this could just be more of my
exe's wackiness. Anybody but me ever experienced this? 

Susan H. 



From artful at rogers.com  Sun Jun 26 10:56:50 2005
From: artful at rogers.com (Arthur Fuller)
Date: Sun, 26 Jun 2005 11:56:50 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Normalizing issue
In-Reply-To: <20050623135959.FMWJ25470.ibm57aec.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>
Message-ID: <200506261556.j5QFurR11298@databaseadvisors.com>

Methinks that you are doubly-inviting "trouble" here, Susan! But I love
trouble!

1. An increasing number of women (in Canada at least) choose to double-up
their surnames in the following fashion (don't know if this is how you
derived yours, and no matter): take your "maiden" surname and append to it
the name of your spouse. In your case, if applicable, it would imply that
your maiden name was Sales and that your spouse's surname was Harkins.

2. An increasing number of hetero married couples in Canada hyphenate their
surnames. Which order they choose, and why, I leave to others.

3. My wife's mother, born in Spain, has the surname Castro-Lema and the
given name(s) Flora Azucena. This denotes that her father's surname was
Castro and her mother's Lema. My wife's name is Samantha Ruskin-Lema, which
denotes that her father was named Ruskin and her mother Lema.

4. When we married, Samantha chose to retain her existing surname rather
than appending or adopting mine. Which suited me just fine. As I see it, our
convention in North America leaves women but two choices -- adopt your
father's surname or your husband's -- both inadequate, in my opinion. By
preserving her surname, rather than adopting or appending mine, Samantha
preserved both sides of her lineage.

5. In this case, the names are hyphenated. In your case, they are not. In
the hyphenated case the rule is simple: you sort on the first letter.
(Actually it's not so simple, given a name such as de la Vega, which should
be sorted under "V" not "D".

6. Let's hear from Shamil or some other lister acquainted with Russian
practices. I have read more than a few Russian novels (in translation of
course) but so far as I can conclude, if a man's surname is X then his
sister's surname is Xa, and conversely. Case in point (c.f. the current
Wimbledon tournament): Marat Safin's sister played this year; her surname is
Safina.

Ok, that ought to constitute a kettle of worms for further cooking! LOL.

7. I notice that you abbreviate your surname(s) to "Harkins" frequently.
Given that propensity, I see no harm in regarding "Sales" as a given name,
in terms of sort etc.

Arthur

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Susan Harkins
Sent: June 23, 2005 10:00 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] Normalizing issue

How do you guys deal with people that use three or more names
professionally? I do -- Susan Sales Harkins. 
 
Do you store the second name with the first or use three fields? The middle
name really isn't a "middle" name. It's actually part of the last name, but
the last name is the real last name -- so if you stored it with the last
name, you'd have to depend on users to enter it correctly, as in Harkins,
Sales --  which is a mistake before you even get started... And how do you
write in the flexibility that handles 2 or 3 names? 
 
Susan H. 
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From artful at rogers.com  Sun Jun 26 10:59:49 2005
From: artful at rogers.com (Arthur Fuller)
Date: Sun, 26 Jun 2005 11:59:49 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Normalizing issue
In-Reply-To: <20050623154231.MOKU25209.ibm63aec.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>
Message-ID: <200506261559.j5QFxqR11636@databaseadvisors.com>

The "nuisance" you cite is not much of a nuisance, IMO. Just create a Save
button or a Form_After_Update event that copies actual name to pen name in
the event of a blank pen name. Then the queries are simple.

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Susan Harkins
Sent: June 23, 2005 11:43 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Normalizing issue

 
If it isn't a middle or maiden name, what is it?  This gets even more tricky
with non-English names where "last" names can get really confusing.  I
generally provide a field for first, middle, and last name and make it the
responsibility of the user to enter the appropriate value in the appropriate
field.  The rules for parsing this can become so draconian, that it hardly
seems worth the work to do anything else.

========I'm in the middle of creating a database (pro bono) for a writer's
organization. It's a simple deal and will require little work -- but this is
already cropping up. These people will want their "writing" names with their
publications -- I'm thinking about just adding one more field to store their
"pen name" or whatever -- but then that becomes a nuisance if their name and
professional name are the same -- gotta fill in both or allow for the blanks
and go find the real name -- such a nuisance -- 

I think at this point the middle name is the best solution -- 

Susan H. 

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From artful at rogers.com  Sun Jun 26 11:02:57 2005
From: artful at rogers.com (Arthur Fuller)
Date: Sun, 26 Jun 2005 12:02:57 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Normalizing issue
In-Reply-To: <E61FC1D4B1918244905B113C680BEA86873AC0@infoserver01.infostat.local>
Message-ID: <200506261603.j5QG30R12548@databaseadvisors.com>

Great catch, Charlotte. Once I sold six articles to a single publication and
all appeared in a single issue! The in-house rule was that only two articles
by a single author could appear in any given issue, so I had to manufacture
two pen names. For one I stuck with my initials (Adrian Fischer) and for the
other I borrowed a name from one of my fave novels, Tom Pynchon's V -- Evan
Godolphin. LOL! I haven't thought about that for twenty years! Thanks for
the memories!

Arthur

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Charlotte Foust
Sent: June 23, 2005 11:51 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Normalizing issue

Since it's a writer's database, a separate *table* for pen names makes a
lot of sense.  Some writers use multiple pen names, so creating a
pseudonym table is the safest way to handle that and relate it to the
writer's actual name.  You could always use the real name as the default
when filling in a pen name.

Charlotte Foust



From ssharkins at bellsouth.net  Sun Jun 26 11:04:00 2005
From: ssharkins at bellsouth.net (Susan Harkins)
Date: Sun, 26 Jun 2005 12:04:00 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Normalizing issue
In-Reply-To: <200506261556.j5QFurR11298@databaseadvisors.com>
Message-ID: <20050626160400.GCZV11957.ibm56aec.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>

7. I notice that you abbreviate your surname(s) to "Harkins" frequently.
Given that propensity, I see no harm in regarding "Sales" as a given name,
in terms of sort etc.

=============I never intended Sales to be part of my "last name" -- it was
just a means of separating me from that other Susan Harkins that was in the
technical world at the time. I don't know if she's still out there and at
this point. I could probably drop the Sales and not incur any problems. Now,
it's just habit.

A quick google turns up others -- but none in the technical field that I've
ever found. 

I'll tell you the truth -- it was spooky. Felt like I was living in some
alternative universe when I saw her name the first time. :) I made a copy of
it and taped it to my office door for a while -- "Ripley's Believe it or
Not" kind of thing -- it was too strange. 

Susan H. 



From artful at rogers.com  Sun Jun 26 11:04:09 2005
From: artful at rogers.com (Arthur Fuller)
Date: Sun, 26 Jun 2005 12:04:09 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Normalizing issue
In-Reply-To: <200506231636.j5NGaU81135946@pimout1-ext.prodigy.net>
Message-ID: <200506261604.j5QG4CR12705@databaseadvisors.com>

I just answered this with regard to Spain. For other cultures I cannot offer
the same insight.

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Sent: June 23, 2005 12:37 PM
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Some cultures commonly use hyphenated names which include the maternal and
paternal names for offspring. Anyone on the list from such an area? Doesn't
Spain have one of those cultures?

John B.
 
If it isn't a middle or maiden name, what is it?  This gets even more tricky
with non-English names where "last" names can get really confusing.

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From ssharkins at bellsouth.net  Sun Jun 26 11:07:35 2005
From: ssharkins at bellsouth.net (Susan Harkins)
Date: Sun, 26 Jun 2005 12:07:35 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Normalizing issue
In-Reply-To: <200506261603.j5QG30R12548@databaseadvisors.com>
Message-ID: <20050626160735.GDRT11957.ibm56aec.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>

It's really very common -- especially for people writing in different
venues. For instance, I know people that right "romance" (the steamy kind)
novels -- they use pen names. They're not ashamed of their work, but you
really don't want little Betsy who loves your children's books finding your
hot steamy romance on the racks and thinking it's for her. :) In this case,
this is usually more an agent/publisher issue than for the writers. It's the
publishers that don't want the confusion, not necessarily the writers. 

Susan H. 

Great catch, Charlotte. Once I sold six articles to a single publication and
all appeared in a single issue! The in-house rule was that only two articles
by a single author could appear in any given issue, so I had to manufacture
two pen names. For one I stuck with my initials (Adrian Fischer) and for the
other I borrowed a name from one of my fave novels, Tom Pynchon's V -- Evan
Godolphin. LOL! I haven't thought about that for twenty years! Thanks for
the memories!



From ssharkins at bellsouth.net  Sun Jun 26 11:08:53 2005
From: ssharkins at bellsouth.net (Susan Harkins)
Date: Sun, 26 Jun 2005 12:08:53 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Normalizing issue
In-Reply-To: <20050626160735.GDRT11957.ibm56aec.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>
Message-ID: <20050626160854.GDXL11957.ibm56aec.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>

<gag> 

Oh my gosh... Of course I meant write, not right. Those of you that know me
from OT know that I am challenged in this way. :( 

Susan H. 

know people that right "romance" (the steamy kind) novels -- they use pen
names. They're not 



From artful at rogers.com  Sun Jun 26 11:13:33 2005
From: artful at rogers.com (Arthur Fuller)
Date: Sun, 26 Jun 2005 12:13:33 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Normalizing issue
In-Reply-To: <20050623182824.MXAF11273.ibm67aec.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>
Message-ID: <200506261613.j5QGDdR15009@databaseadvisors.com>

You ask a couple of smart questions here. I should point out however that
some articles at least do go "out of print". For example, my SQL Tips at
builder.com go virtually "out of print" rather quickly (i.e. the URL you
receive that points to them goes obsolete in a week or three). However, they
are changing that so stuff will be retrievable for a long time.

Next, you have the issue of multiple authors on a single book or article.
You may have to distinguish the principal author from the others. Finally,
let's take a case from my own sordid past in which I worked as part of a
team on a book about an O-O language. I wrote three of the approximately 20
chapters, and had no part in the writing of anything else in the book.
Should those 3 instances be regarded as "articles"? In a way they are closer
to articles than to authorship of the entire book.

Finally, the problem with using a pair of tables (Books and Mags) is that
before you're done, a third medium will emerge (DVDs, say), and that will
mean that you need to add a table at minimum. In light of this, my
preference would be to create a table PublicationTypes, containing these
three entries to start, and then have a single table containing the facts
about the publications, and finally an Authors table containing the names of
the authors of the various publications, perhaps also with a flag denoting
"Principal author". This would enable "SQL: Access to SQL Server" to have
either two principal authors or none, in addition to any number of ancillary
authors.

That's how I would model it, anyway. 

HTH,
Arthur

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Susan Harkins
Sent: June 23, 2005 2:28 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Normalizing issue

This is really getting much more complicated than I had planned. Now I have
to figure out how to deal with books versus articles. :) I thought about one
table that id's each publication as a book, article, etc. but I have one
problem. 

Books are usually in or out of print and that just doesn't apply for
articles. If I use a Yes/No for InPrint, then I've got records when an
inappropriate value -- No for magazines isn't really correct. I could use a
tri-state Yes/No I guess, and put Null to work, but ug... 

I can have a separate table that stores only book InPrint field. Or, I can
just use two different tables, one for books, for mags. 

Susan H.  

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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
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Sent: Thursday, June 23, 2005 1:23 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Normalizing issue

<<OK -- so you're relating the pen name table to the member name and then
relating the book table to the pen name table?>>

  Yes.

Jim.

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Susan Harkins
Sent: Thursday, June 23, 2005 1:13 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Normalizing issue


OK -- so you're relating the pen name table to the member name and then
relating the book table to the pen name table?

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim Dettman
Sent: Thursday, June 23, 2005 1:10 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Normalizing issue

Slight correction:

tblMembers
MemberID
MemberName
DateCreated

tblPenNames
PenID
MemberID
PenName
DateCreated
Bio

tblBooks
BookID
PenID

Jim.

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Susan Harkins
Sent: Thursday, June 23, 2005 12:58 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Normalizing issue


I've been considering this, this morning and I think what I've finally come
up with is this:

A member name -- that's their real name -- which will relate to their books.
I "think" I will add a pen name field to the book table -- if they wrote the
name under another name, it'll be there for searches, write-up's, whatever.
But, there's only going to be one pen name for each book, so I think it's
safe to do this. What do you think?

Susan H.

Since it's a writer's database, a separate *table* for pen names makes a lot
of sense.  Some writers use multiple pen names, so creating a pseudonym
table is the safest way to handle that and relate it to the writer's actual
name.  You could always use the real name as the default when filling in a
pen name.

Charlotte Foust


-----Original Message-----
From: Susan Harkins [mailto:ssharkins at bellsouth.net]
Sent: Thursday, June 23, 2005 8:43 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Normalizing issue



If it isn't a middle or maiden name, what is it?  This gets even more tricky
with non-English names where "last" names can get really confusing.  I
generally provide a field for first, middle, and last name and make it the
responsibility of the user to enter the appropriate value in the appropriate
field.  The rules for parsing this can become so draconian, that it hardly
seems worth the work to do anything else.

========I'm in the middle of creating a database (pro bono) for a writer's
organization. It's a simple deal and will require little work
-- but this is already cropping up. These people will want their "writing"
names with their publications -- I'm thinking about just adding one more
field to store their "pen name" or whatever -- but then that becomes a
nuisance if their name and professional name are the same
-- gotta fill in both or allow for the blanks and go find the real name
-- such a nuisance --

I think at this point the middle name is the best solution --

Susan H.

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From artful at rogers.com  Sun Jun 26 11:15:27 2005
From: artful at rogers.com (Arthur Fuller)
Date: Sun, 26 Jun 2005 12:15:27 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Field Naming ( Just once I want to be ahead of JC )
In-Reply-To: <000301c57821$67019ce0$6c7aa8c0@ColbyM6805>
Message-ID: <200506261615.j5QGFUR15380@databaseadvisors.com>

I agree 100% and go one step further: enforce them in the Back End not the
Front End, and enforce RI wherever you can. Don't quit until you nuke all
the rows in all the tables that prevent 100% enforcement of RI.

Arthur

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Sent: June 23, 2005 2:29 PM
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Subject: RE: [AccessD] Field Naming ( Just once I want to be ahead of JC )

Absolutely should.  If a relationship exists, and you care about referential
integrity, the database engine should enforce it where possible.

John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com 



From artful at rogers.com  Sun Jun 26 11:17:44 2005
From: artful at rogers.com (Arthur Fuller)
Date: Sun, 26 Jun 2005 12:17:44 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Re: Normalizing issue
In-Reply-To: <20050623194454.PJJJ8050.ibm62aec.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>
Message-ID: <200506261617.j5QGHmR16133@databaseadvisors.com>

This is fact, Susan. If you doubt me do some Googles etc.

-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Susan Harkins
Sent: June 23, 2005 3:45 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Re: Normalizing issue

I just think Arthur's up to old tricks again... ;) 

Susan H. 

I wonder if they nicknamed him "Alfie", short for alphabet ;)

D


Surname:
Wolfeschlegelsteinhausenbergerdorffvoralternwarengewissenhaf
tschaferswesenchafewarenwholgepflegeundsorgfaltigkeitbeschut

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From artful at rogers.com  Sun Jun 26 11:18:50 2005
From: artful at rogers.com (Arthur Fuller)
Date: Sun, 26 Jun 2005 12:18:50 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Re: Normalizing issue
In-Reply-To: <42BBC4AA.3771.30398AF@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>
Message-ID: <200506261618.j5QGIsR16272@databaseadvisors.com>

Thanks for the verify, Stuart! Now if we could only get a German-speaking
lister to guide us through that surname! LOL.

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Sent: June 23, 2005 6:31 PM
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On 23 Jun 2005 at 15:44, Susan Harkins wrote:

> I just think Arthur's up to old tricks again... ;) 
> 

Nope, see http://www.everything2.com/index.pl?node_id=1534419
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From artful at rogers.com  Sun Jun 26 11:29:29 2005
From: artful at rogers.com (Arthur Fuller)
Date: Sun, 26 Jun 2005 12:29:29 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Normalizing issue
In-Reply-To: <20050626160400.GCZV11957.ibm56aec.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>
Message-ID: <200506261629.j5QGTWR18610@databaseadvisors.com>

Yeah I googled "Arthur Fuller" once and discovered that I was an American
painter in the late 19th Century. So now when I'm telling people to look for
my stuff I tell them "Arthur Fuller SQL", which eliminates the painter. LOL.

A.

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Sent: June 26, 2005 12:04 PM
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7. I notice that you abbreviate your surname(s) to "Harkins" frequently.
Given that propensity, I see no harm in regarding "Sales" as a given name,
in terms of sort etc.

=============I never intended Sales to be part of my "last name" -- it was
just a means of separating me from that other Susan Harkins that was in the
technical world at the time. I don't know if she's still out there and at
this point. I could probably drop the Sales and not incur any problems. Now,
it's just habit.

A quick google turns up others -- but none in the technical field that I've
ever found. 

I'll tell you the truth -- it was spooky. Felt like I was living in some
alternative universe when I saw her name the first time. :) I made a copy of
it and taped it to my office door for a while -- "Ripley's Believe it or
Not" kind of thing -- it was too strange. 

Susan H. 

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From lembit.soobik at t-online.de  Sun Jun 26 11:43:37 2005
From: lembit.soobik at t-online.de (Lembit Soobik)
Date: Sun, 26 Jun 2005 18:43:37 +0200
Subject: [AccessD] Re: Normalizing issue
References: <200506261618.j5QGIsR16272@databaseadvisors.com>
Message-ID: <003c01c57a6e$33ccacd0$0200a8c0@p600>

oh, well, Arthur,
its a concatenation of names, and words.
doesnt make any sense to me.
if this has really been used as name (which I dont beleive), maybe some history
or linguistics professor could make us some story of that.

Lembit

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Subject: RE: [AccessD] Re: Normalizing issue


> Thanks for the verify, Stuart! Now if we could only get a German-speaking
> lister to guide us through that surname! LOL.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Stuart McLachlan
> Sent: June 23, 2005 6:31 PM
> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> Subject: RE: [AccessD] Re: Normalizing issue
>
> On 23 Jun 2005 at 15:44, Susan Harkins wrote:
>
> > I just think Arthur's up to old tricks again... ;)
> >
>
> Nope, see http://www.everything2.com/index.pl?node_id=1534419
> -- 
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From ssharkins at bellsouth.net  Sun Jun 26 11:45:21 2005
From: ssharkins at bellsouth.net (Susan Harkins)
Date: Sun, 26 Jun 2005 12:45:21 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Normalizing issue
In-Reply-To: <200506261613.j5QGDdR15009@databaseadvisors.com>
Message-ID: <20050626164526.WJSK8050.ibm62aec.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>


Next, you have the issue of multiple authors on a single book or article.

=======For the purposes of this database, this won't be an issue. We're
simply tracking the works of individual authors -- not the authors for
individual works. But, if it comes up later, I won't have a problem revising
it. 

You may have to distinguish the principal author from the others. Finally,
let's take a case from my own sordid past in which I worked as part of a
team on a book about an O-O language. I wrote three of the approximately 20
chapters, and had no part in the writing of anything else in the book.
Should those 3 instances be regarded as "articles"? In a way they are closer
to articles than to authorship of the entire book.

===========For the purposes of this db, that won't be an issue either --
ditto above. There wouldn't be a record for an et. Al -- if an author wanted
us to track a book they had contributed to, they would have to list the
book's author, as published. Right now, we're not tracking that sort of
thing, but it could come up later. What you did just push though, is the
difference between writer and illustrator -- many of these people are
illustrators and I haven't even allowed for that. <groan>

Finally, the problem with using a pair of tables (Books and Mags) is that
before you're done, a third medium will emerge (DVDs, say), and that will
mean that you need to add a table at minimum. In light of this, my
preference would be to create a table PublicationTypes, containing these
three entries to start, and then have a single table containing the facts
about the publications, and finally an Authors table containing the names of
the authors of the various publications, perhaps also with a flag denoting
"Principal author". This would enable "SQL: Access to SQL Server" to have
either two principal authors or none, in addition to any number of ancillary
authors.

============Me too -- that is exactly what I've done because I've already
added a third type already: books, periodicals, and online. You're
absolutely right on this one. In the long run, I'd rather deal with the Null
fields than compound all the queries, etc. with multiple tables.  

Susan H. 



From ssharkins at bellsouth.net  Sun Jun 26 11:46:51 2005
From: ssharkins at bellsouth.net (Susan Harkins)
Date: Sun, 26 Jun 2005 12:46:51 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Normalizing issue
In-Reply-To: <200506261613.j5QGDdR15009@databaseadvisors.com>
Message-ID: <20050626164651.WJYP8050.ibm62aec.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>


Next, you have the issue of multiple authors on a single book or article.
You may have to distinguish the principal author from the others. Finally,
let's take a case from my own sordid past in which I worked as part of a
team on a book about an O-O language. I wrote three of the approximately 20
chapters, and had no part in the writing of anything else in the book.
Should those 3 instances be regarded as "articles"? In a way they are closer
to articles than to authorship of the entire book.

===========Arthur -- do you realize how you just complicated my entire
application?????????????

Well... I'm glad it happened now. :) 

We started off tracking authors -- not right -- we have to track
publications -- only way to go. 

Susan H. 



From stuart at lexacorp.com.pg  Sun Jun 26 13:44:10 2005
From: stuart at lexacorp.com.pg (Stuart McLachlan)
Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2005 04:44:10 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] Run External App from within Access
In-Reply-To: <200506261523.j5QFNNR03716@databaseadvisors.com>
References: <000401c57a5d$84a37820$6c7aa8c0@ColbyM6805>
Message-ID: <42BF841A.3653.11A75816@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>

On 26 Jun 2005 at 11:23, Arthur Fuller wrote:

> I'm having a senior moment here today, folks. I cannot remember how to run
> an external app from within Access. In this case it's a batch file.
> 

Shell()

> Followup question.... Is there a way to specify an exit level (i.e.
> errorlevel) when exiting an Access app? Suppose for example that Access is
> being invoked from a batch file, and that I want to set an errorlevel of 1
> or 0, then take action on this value in the batch file.
> 


AFAIK, you can't - the errorlevel would need to be returned by Access 
itself, not your app.

> I.e.
> 
> MyBatch.cmd:
> 'run a simple Access app
> MySimpleApp
> 'test its exit value
> If errorlevel = 1 goto One
> If errorlevel = 0 goto Done
> 

You could use a sentinel file. Create a small file with a filename which 
indicates the level you want to return and use "if exist filename" 


-- 
Stuart




From Gustav at cactus.dk  Sun Jun 26 14:41:28 2005
From: Gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Sun, 26 Jun 2005 21:41:28 +0200
Subject: [AccessD] Run External App from within Access
Message-ID: <s2bf212a.033@cactus.dk>

Hi Arthur

As to the errorlevel ...
Write your codes to a (local) temp text file and read that afterwards -
simple but it works.

/gustav

>>> artful at rogers.com 06/26 5:23 pm >>>
I'm having a senior moment here today, folks. I cannot remember how to
run
an external app from within Access. In this case it's a batch file.

Followup question.... Is there a way to specify an exit level (i.e.
errorlevel) when exiting an Access app? Suppose for example that Access
is
being invoked from a batch file, and that I want to set an errorlevel
of 1
or 0, then take action on this value in the batch file.

I.e.

MyBatch.cmd:
'run a simple Access app
MySimpleApp
'test its exit value
If errorlevel = 1 goto One
If errorlevel = 0 goto Done

:One
Rem Do something cool

:Done
Rem Do nothing at all


TIA,
Arthur



From accessd at shaw.ca  Sun Jun 26 15:12:21 2005
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Sun, 26 Jun 2005 13:12:21 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Run External App from within Access
In-Reply-To: <200506261523.j5QFNNR03716@databaseadvisors.com>
Message-ID: <0IIP00J7FK4KMA@l-daemon>

Hi Arthur:

The part you forgot was the 'choice' dos command option. Here is piece of
sample code from MS help.

@echo off
cls
echo.
echo A   Microsoft Editor
echo B   Microsoft Anti-Virus
echo C   Microsoft Backup
echo.
choice /c:abc Choose an option
if errorlevel 3 goto MSBackup
if errorlevel 2 goto Msav
if errorlevel 1 goto Edit

:Edit
edit
goto End

:Msav
msav
goto End

:Msbackup
msbackup
goto End

:End

HTH
Jim


-----Original Message-----
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Sent: Sunday, June 26, 2005 8:23 AM
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Subject: [AccessD] Run External App from within Access

I'm having a senior moment here today, folks. I cannot remember how to run
an external app from within Access. In this case it's a batch file.

Followup question.... Is there a way to specify an exit level (i.e.
errorlevel) when exiting an Access app? Suppose for example that Access is
being invoked from a batch file, and that I want to set an errorlevel of 1
or 0, then take action on this value in the batch file.

I.e.

MyBatch.cmd:
'run a simple Access app
MySimpleApp
'test its exit value
If errorlevel = 1 goto One
If errorlevel = 0 goto Done

:One
Rem Do something cool

:Done
Rem Do nothing at all


TIA,
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From Robert at servicexp.com  Sun Jun 26 16:50:56 2005
From: Robert at servicexp.com (Robert Gracie)
Date: Sun, 26 Jun 2005 17:50:56 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Mappoint Control ?
In-Reply-To: <0IIP00J7FK4KMA@l-daemon>
Message-ID: <20050626215103.D107C41405@mail01.powweb.com>


Has anyone figured out how to use the control on a form in A2K?  Is the
following still valid?

http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/default.asp?url=/library/en-us/mappoint200
4/BIZAPIMapPointControl.asp

Robert



From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com  Sun Jun 26 21:25:05 2005
From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (John W. Colby)
Date: Sun, 26 Jun 2005 22:25:05 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Mappoint Control ?
In-Reply-To: <20050626215103.D107C41405@mail01.powweb.com>
Message-ID: <000301c57abf$71fd1200$6c7aa8c0@ColbyM6805>

I THINK I used the control in an Access control.  I definitely DID embed a
map in a control somehow.  However I am not doing so this time around.  I am
referencing the Mappoint library and just doing it native.  When I do
anything, an actual instance of mappoint opens.

Any specific reason to use a control in a form?

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Sent: Sunday, June 26, 2005 5:51 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] Mappoint Control ?



Has anyone figured out how to use the control on a form in A2K?  Is the
following still valid?

http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/default.asp?url=/library/en-us/mappoint200
4/BIZAPIMapPointControl.asp

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From newsgrps at dalyn.co.nz  Sun Jun 26 21:43:45 2005
From: newsgrps at dalyn.co.nz (David Emerson)
Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2005 14:43:45 +1200
Subject: [AccessD] Graph Rowsource
Message-ID: <6.2.1.2.0.20050627144335.0340e100@mail.dalyn.co.nz>

AccessXP ADP,  SQL2000

I am trying to change a graphs rowsource via VBA.   When I have the 
following in the Detail_Format section of the report -

     Me!chtincNeeds.RowSource = "SELECT C1stName ...  " (Rest of query omitted)

I get an error 2191 - You can't set the rowsource property in print preview 
or after printing has started.

If I put it on the report's on open event I get error 2455 - You entered an 
expression that has an invalid reference to the property RowSource.

How can I dinamically change the rowsource?



From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com  Sun Jun 26 22:28:33 2005
From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (John W. Colby)
Date: Sun, 26 Jun 2005 23:28:33 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Word and Pictures
Message-ID: <000401c57ac8$502be8f0$6c7aa8c0@ColbyM6805>

I am trying to insert pictures in my Word document and cannot see them.
When I search the web I find that "you can't see pictures in normal view".
What in the world is going on?  This seems rather bizarre to me.

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From accessd at shaw.ca  Sun Jun 26 23:23:57 2005
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Sun, 26 Jun 2005 21:23:57 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Graph Rowsource
In-Reply-To: <6.2.1.2.0.20050627144335.0340e100@mail.dalyn.co.nz>
Message-ID: <0IIQ00F2N6VT8F@l-daemon>

Hi David:

You may have a look at an article posted to DBA site that deals specifically
with changing report data source on the fly. Some of the information may be
helpful:
http://www.databaseadvisors.com/newsletters/newsletter112003/0311UnboundRepo
rts.htm

HTH
Jim

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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of David Emerson
Sent: Sunday, June 26, 2005 7:44 PM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [AccessD] Graph Rowsource

AccessXP ADP,  SQL2000

I am trying to change a graphs rowsource via VBA.   When I have the 
following in the Detail_Format section of the report -

     Me!chtincNeeds.RowSource = "SELECT C1stName ...  " (Rest of query
omitted)

I get an error 2191 - You can't set the rowsource property in print preview 
or after printing has started.

If I put it on the report's on open event I get error 2455 - You entered an 
expression that has an invalid reference to the property RowSource.

How can I dinamically change the rowsource?

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From accessd at shaw.ca  Sun Jun 26 23:28:42 2005
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Sun, 26 Jun 2005 21:28:42 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Word and Pictures
In-Reply-To: <000401c57ac8$502be8f0$6c7aa8c0@ColbyM6805>
Message-ID: <0IIQ00E6573QBT@l-daemon>

Hi John:

I looked into a similar situation a while back and here are a few things you
can check out: http://word.mvps.org/FAQs/DrwGrphcs/InvisibleGraphics.htm

HTH
Jim

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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of John W. Colby
Sent: Sunday, June 26, 2005 8:29 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] Word and Pictures

I am trying to insert pictures in my Word document and cannot see them.
When I search the web I find that "you can't see pictures in normal view".
What in the world is going on?  This seems rather bizarre to me.

John W. Colby
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From dmcafee at pacbell.net  Sun Jun 26 23:57:35 2005
From: dmcafee at pacbell.net (dmcafee at pacbell.net)
Date: Sun, 26 Jun 2005 21:57:35 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Graph Rowsource
In-Reply-To: <6.2.1.2.0.20050627144335.0340e100@mail.dalyn.co.nz>
Message-ID: <KDEHKEMIOHGKCDHLPPLKOEPOFFAA.dmcafee@pacbell.net>

Why don't you make the row source a Stored Procedure (sproc) and have the
sproc do the correct SELECT for you? That way you don't need to anything
fancy in the FE. I tend to not give users select rights to tables and make
everything sproc driven.

D

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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of David Emerson
Sent: Sunday, June 26, 2005 7:44 PM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [AccessD] Graph Rowsource


AccessXP ADP,  SQL2000

I am trying to change a graphs rowsource via VBA.   When I have the
following in the Detail_Format section of the report -

     Me!chtincNeeds.RowSource = "SELECT C1stName ...  " (Rest of query
omitted)

I get an error 2191 - You can't set the rowsource property in print preview
or after printing has started.

If I put it on the report's on open event I get error 2455 - You entered an
expression that has an invalid reference to the property RowSource.

How can I dinamically change the rowsource?

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From newsgrps at dalyn.co.nz  Mon Jun 27 00:40:28 2005
From: newsgrps at dalyn.co.nz (David Emerson)
Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2005 17:40:28 +1200
Subject: [AccessD] Graph Rowsource
In-Reply-To: <KDEHKEMIOHGKCDHLPPLKOEPOFFAA.dmcafee@pacbell.net>
References: <6.2.1.2.0.20050627144335.0340e100@mail.dalyn.co.nz>
	<KDEHKEMIOHGKCDHLPPLKOEPOFFAA.dmcafee@pacbell.net>
Message-ID: <6.2.1.2.0.20050627171902.03200b00@mail.dalyn.co.nz>

Running with this idea, how do I pass a parameter to the sproc.  In the 
recordsource I have:

EXEC dbo.sprptIncomeNeedsChart ClientIDNo

but it seems to be treating the field (ClientIDNo) as a varchar value 
('ClientIDNo'), not an integer (which the value is)

I can't include the ClientIDNo field in the sproc and use child and master 
fields because I can't work out how not to include that field in the data 
being used in the graph itself.

Here is the main part of the sproc:

SELECT C1stName, CDisIncome AS [Required Funds], CDisIncP + CDisLumpSum + 
CDisSuper + CDisOtherInc AS [Available Funds]
FROM vwCashManagement
WHERE ClientIDNo = @txtClientIDNo
UNION SELECT P1stName, PDisIncome AS [Required Funds], PDisIncC + 
PDisLumpSum + PDisSuper + PDisOtherInc AS [Available Funds]
FROM vwCashManagement
WHERE ClientIDNo = @txtClientIDNo


David

At 27/06/2005, you wrote:
>Why don't you make the row source a Stored Procedure (sproc) and have the
>sproc do the correct SELECT for you? That way you don't need to anything
>fancy in the FE. I tend to not give users select rights to tables and make
>everything sproc driven.
>
>D
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of David Emerson
>Sent: Sunday, June 26, 2005 7:44 PM
>To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
>Subject: [AccessD] Graph Rowsource
>
>
>AccessXP ADP,  SQL2000
>
>I am trying to change a graphs rowsource via VBA.   When I have the
>following in the Detail_Format section of the report -
>
>      Me!chtincNeeds.RowSource = "SELECT C1stName ...  " (Rest of query
>omitted)
>
>I get an error 2191 - You can't set the rowsource property in print preview
>or after printing has started.
>
>If I put it on the report's on open event I get error 2455 - You entered an
>expression that has an invalid reference to the property RowSource.
>
>How can I dinamically change the rowsource?
>
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From dmcafee at pacbell.net  Mon Jun 27 01:21:15 2005
From: dmcafee at pacbell.net (dmcafee at pacbell.net)
Date: Sun, 26 Jun 2005 23:21:15 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Graph Rowsource
In-Reply-To: <6.2.1.2.0.20050627171902.03200b00@mail.dalyn.co.nz>
Message-ID: <KDEHKEMIOHGKCDHLPPLKEEACFGAA.dmcafee@pacbell.net>

Are you sure you have an input parameter that is set to an INT and not a
VARCHAR?

Make sure the top line looks like this:

ALTER PROCEDURE sprptIncomeNeedsChart (@txtClientIDNo AS INT) AS

Then in your report, opent he properties box and in the Data tab, you can
type in an Input parameter in either of the following manners:

		@txtClientIDNo = 1234
			or
		@txtClientIDNo = Forms![SomeForm]![txtClientIDNo]

Its late, and I'm not getting everything through my thick skull right now.
I'll take a look at it on the morning if nobody else has chimed in.

David




-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of David Emerson
Sent: Sunday, June 26, 2005 10:40 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Graph Rowsource


Running with this idea, how do I pass a parameter to the sproc.  In the
recordsource I have:

EXEC dbo.sprptIncomeNeedsChart ClientIDNo

but it seems to be treating the field (ClientIDNo) as a varchar value
('ClientIDNo'), not an integer (which the value is)

I can't include the ClientIDNo field in the sproc and use child and master
fields because I can't work out how not to include that field in the data
being used in the graph itself.

Here is the main part of the sproc:

SELECT C1stName, CDisIncome AS [Required Funds], CDisIncP + CDisLumpSum +
CDisSuper + CDisOtherInc AS [Available Funds]
FROM vwCashManagement
WHERE ClientIDNo = @txtClientIDNo
UNION SELECT P1stName, PDisIncome AS [Required Funds], PDisIncC +
PDisLumpSum + PDisSuper + PDisOtherInc AS [Available Funds]
FROM vwCashManagement
WHERE ClientIDNo = @txtClientIDNo


David

At 27/06/2005, you wrote:
>Why don't you make the row source a Stored Procedure (sproc) and have the
>sproc do the correct SELECT for you? That way you don't need to anything
>fancy in the FE. I tend to not give users select rights to tables and make
>everything sproc driven.
>
>D
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of David Emerson
>Sent: Sunday, June 26, 2005 7:44 PM
>To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
>Subject: [AccessD] Graph Rowsource
>
>
>AccessXP ADP,  SQL2000
>
>I am trying to change a graphs rowsource via VBA.   When I have the
>following in the Detail_Format section of the report -
>
>      Me!chtincNeeds.RowSource = "SELECT C1stName ...  " (Rest of query
>omitted)
>
>I get an error 2191 - You can't set the rowsource property in print preview
>or after printing has started.
>
>If I put it on the report's on open event I get error 2455 - You entered an
>expression that has an invalid reference to the property RowSource.
>
>How can I dinamically change the rowsource?
>
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From accessd666 at yahoo.com  Mon Jun 27 04:41:56 2005
From: accessd666 at yahoo.com (Sad Der)
Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2005 02:41:56 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [AccessD] Compact & Repair (Urgent)
Message-ID: <20050627094156.3981.qmail@web31602.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Hi,

I forgot my CD's from the ADHB2K. I've got the book
here but I cannot seem to find the code to compact and
repair an access database.

Has anyone got it or knows where in the book I can
find it?

Thnx!!!!!!!!

Regards,

SD


		
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From paul.hartland at fsmail.net  Mon Jun 27 04:57:08 2005
From: paul.hartland at fsmail.net (paul.hartland at fsmail.net)
Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2005 11:57:08 +0200 (CEST)
Subject: [AccessD] Compact & Repair (Urgent)
Message-ID: <20864317.1119866228342.JavaMail.www@wwinf3201>

This is a snippet of code I used to use, if anyone has a better way I would also like to see it:

Dim MyDate As String
    MyDate = Left(Date, 2) & "_" & Mid(Date, 4, 2) & "_" & Right(Date, 2)
    FileCopy "Database", "Database_Backup" & MyDate & ".mdb"
    DBEngine.CompactDatabase "Database_Backup"& MyDate & ".mdb", "Database_Compact"
    Kill "Database"
    Name "Database_Compact" As "Database"

Database = Original Database
Database_Backup = Backup (Just in case of an OOPS)

Database_Compact = Name of database once compacted & repaired



Message date : Jun 27 2005, 10:43 AM
>From : "Sad Der" 
To : "Acces User Group" 
Copy to : 
Subject : [AccessD] Compact & Repair (Urgent)
Hi,

I forgot my CD's from the ADHB2K. I've got the book
here but I cannot seem to find the code to compact and
repair an access database.

Has anyone got it or knows where in the book I can
find it?

Thnx!!!!!!!!

Regards,

SD



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From accessd666 at yahoo.com  Mon Jun 27 05:01:09 2005
From: accessd666 at yahoo.com (Sad Der)
Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2005 03:01:09 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [AccessD] Compact & Repair (Urgent)
In-Reply-To: <20864317.1119866228342.JavaMail.www@wwinf3201>
Message-ID: <20050627100110.33646.qmail@web31612.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

?? Is that all ??

Nice! Thnx.

Regards
SD

--- paul.hartland at fsmail.net wrote:

> This is a snippet of code I used to use, if anyone
> has a better way I would also like to see it:
> 
> Dim MyDate As String
>     MyDate = Left(Date, 2) & "_" & Mid(Date, 4, 2) &
> "_" & Right(Date, 2)
>     FileCopy "Database", "Database_Backup" & MyDate
> & ".mdb"
>     DBEngine.CompactDatabase "Database_Backup"&
> MyDate & ".mdb", "Database_Compact"
>     Kill "Database"
>     Name "Database_Compact" As "Database"
> 
> Database = Original Database
> Database_Backup = Backup (Just in case of an OOPS)
> 
> Database_Compact = Name of database once compacted &
> repaired
> 
> 
> 
> Message date : Jun 27 2005, 10:43 AM
> >From : "Sad Der" 
> To : "Acces User Group" 
> Copy to : 
> Subject : [AccessD] Compact & Repair (Urgent)
> Hi,
> 
> I forgot my CD's from the ADHB2K. I've got the book
> here but I cannot seem to find the code to compact
> and
> repair an access database.
> 
> Has anyone got it or knows where in the book I can
> find it?
> 
> Thnx!!!!!!!!
> 
> Regards,
> 
> SD
> 
> 
> 
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From paul.hartland at isharp.co.uk  Mon Jun 27 05:23:15 2005
From: paul.hartland at isharp.co.uk (Paul Hartland (ISHARP))
Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2005 11:23:15 +0100
Subject: [AccessD] Compact & Repair (Urgent)
In-Reply-To: <20050627100110.33646.qmail@web31612.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <!~!UENERkVCMDkAAQACAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAC4AAAAAAAAAclrM129q6km1GlSfRwF8CgEAFKerAD79REu7GTojEo2iDgAAAAddkgAAEAAAACirxcxHPZNHkjdNIsJS5coBAAAAAA==@isharp.co.uk>

It's what I used to use in a timer program in Visual Basic 6.0 and used to
work fine 

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Sad Der
Sent: 27 June 2005 11:01
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Compact & Repair (Urgent)

?? Is that all ??

Nice! Thnx.

Regards
SD

--- paul.hartland at fsmail.net wrote:

> This is a snippet of code I used to use, if anyone has a better way I 
> would also like to see it:
> 
> Dim MyDate As String
>     MyDate = Left(Date, 2) & "_" & Mid(Date, 4, 2) & "_" & Right(Date, 
> 2)
>     FileCopy "Database", "Database_Backup" & MyDate & ".mdb"
>     DBEngine.CompactDatabase "Database_Backup"& MyDate & ".mdb", 
> "Database_Compact"
>     Kill "Database"
>     Name "Database_Compact" As "Database"
> 
> Database = Original Database
> Database_Backup = Backup (Just in case of an OOPS)
> 
> Database_Compact = Name of database once compacted & repaired
> 
> 
> 
> Message date : Jun 27 2005, 10:43 AM
> >From : "Sad Der" 
> To : "Acces User Group" 
> Copy to : 
> Subject : [AccessD] Compact & Repair (Urgent) Hi,
> 
> I forgot my CD's from the ADHB2K. I've got the book here but I cannot 
> seem to find the code to compact and repair an access database.
> 
> Has anyone got it or knows where in the book I can find it?
> 
> Thnx!!!!!!!!
> 
> Regards,
> 
> SD
> 
> 
> 
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> 
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From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com  Mon Jun 27 06:02:14 2005
From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (John W. Colby)
Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2005 07:02:14 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Word and Pictures
In-Reply-To: <0IIQ00E6573QBT@l-daemon>
Message-ID: <000b01c57b07$ad6608e0$6c7aa8c0@ColbyM6805>

That got it, thanks.  It was the paragraph EXACTLY thing.

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-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim Lawrence
Sent: Monday, June 27, 2005 12:29 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Word and Pictures


Hi John:

I looked into a similar situation a while back and here are a few things you
can check out: http://word.mvps.org/FAQs/DrwGrphcs/InvisibleGraphics.htm

HTH
Jim

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of John W. Colby
Sent: Sunday, June 26, 2005 8:29 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] Word and Pictures

I am trying to insert pictures in my Word document and cannot see them. When
I search the web I find that "you can't see pictures in normal view". What
in the world is going on?  This seems rather bizarre to me.

John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com 

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From robert at servicexp.com  Mon Jun 27 06:25:13 2005
From: robert at servicexp.com (Robert Gracie)
Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2005 07:25:13 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Mappoint Control ?
Message-ID: <3C6BD610FA11044CADFC8C13E6D5508F4ECA@gbsserver.GBS.local>

John,
 Just looking for a deeper level of integration.

Thanks!!
Robert

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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of John W. Colby
Sent: Monday, June 27, 2005 5:16 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Mappoint Control ?

I THINK I used the control in an Access control.  I definitely DID embed
a map in a control somehow.  However I am not doing so this time around.
I am referencing the Mappoint library and just doing it native.  When I
do anything, an actual instance of mappoint opens.

Any specific reason to use a control in a form?

John W. Colby
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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Robert Gracie
Sent: Sunday, June 26, 2005 5:51 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] Mappoint Control ?



Has anyone figured out how to use the control on a form in A2K?  Is the
following still valid?

http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/default.asp?url=/library/en-us/mappoin
t200
4/BIZAPIMapPointControl.asp

Robert

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From mmattys at rochester.rr.com  Mon Jun 27 07:08:28 2005
From: mmattys at rochester.rr.com (Michael R Mattys)
Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2005 08:08:28 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Mappoint Control ?
References: <3C6BD610FA11044CADFC8C13E6D5508F4ECA@gbsserver.GBS.local>
Message-ID: <01dd01c57b10$efa7ec60$0202a8c0@default>

Robert,

All of my work is done in A2K first.
What is it that needs to be figured out?

----

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Mattys MapLib for Microsoft MapPoint 
http://www.mattysconsulting.com



From dejpolsys at hotmail.com  Mon Jun 27 08:24:06 2005
From: dejpolsys at hotmail.com (William Hindman)
Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2005 09:24:06 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Sandbox Mode A2K3
References: <3C6BD610FA11044CADFC8C13E6D5508F4ECA@gbsserver.GBS.local>
	<01dd01c57b10$efa7ec60$0202a8c0@default>
Message-ID: <BAY103-DAV3409E9B3843D67A7DDD2CAEEE0@phx.gbl>

..anyone with experience using this "feature" ...pros/cons re turning it 
on/off? ...how much code change impact if not presently using any macros?

William


From Jim.Hale at FleetPride.com  Mon Jun 27 09:17:54 2005
From: Jim.Hale at FleetPride.com (Hale, Jim)
Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2005 09:17:54 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Normalizing issue
Message-ID: <6A6AA9DF57E4F046BDA1E273BDDB677233769E@corp-es01.fleetpride.com>

Hey, sometimes Freudian slips are closer to the truth. My favorite (real)
examples are mythologies for methodologies and deceivables for receivables.
Jim

-----Original Message-----
From: Susan Harkins [mailto:ssharkins at bellsouth.net]
Sent: Sunday, June 26, 2005 11:09 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Normalizing issue


<gag> 

Oh my gosh... Of course I meant write, not right. Those of you that know me
from OT know that I am challenged in this way. :( 

Susan H. 

know people that right "romance" (the steamy kind) novels -- they use pen
names. They're not 

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From jimdettman at earthlink.net  Mon Jun 27 10:05:09 2005
From: jimdettman at earthlink.net (Jim Dettman)
Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2005 11:05:09 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Normalizing issue
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Susan,

  I have the same problem.  Except I do it when I speak as well as write.
The worst (and the most embarrassing), is when I mean to say Witch and say
*itch.

Jim.

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<gag>

Oh my gosh... Of course I meant write, not right. Those of you that know me
from OT know that I am challenged in this way. :(

Susan H.

know people that right "romance" (the steamy kind) novels -- they use pen
names. They're not

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From BBarabash at TappeConstruction.com  Mon Jun 27 10:05:56 2005
From: BBarabash at TappeConstruction.com (Brett Barabash)
Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2005 10:05:56 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Normalizing issue
Message-ID: <100F91B31300334B89EC531C9DCB08659F833B@tccexch01.tappeconstruction.net>

My fave was when JC accidentally referred to a composite key as a
"compost key".  Particularily amusing if you've ever heard his rants on
the subject.


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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Hale, Jim
Sent: Monday, June 27, 2005 9:18 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Normalizing issue


Hey, sometimes Freudian slips are closer to the truth. My favorite
(real) examples are mythologies for methodologies and deceivables for
receivables.
Jim

-----Original Message-----
From: Susan Harkins [mailto:ssharkins at bellsouth.net]
Sent: Sunday, June 26, 2005 11:09 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Normalizing issue


<gag> 

Oh my gosh... Of course I meant write, not right. Those of you that know
me from OT know that I am challenged in this way. :( 

Susan H. 

know people that right "romance" (the steamy kind) novels -- they use
pen names. They're not 


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From cfoust at infostatsystems.com  Mon Jun 27 10:11:00 2005
From: cfoust at infostatsystems.com (Charlotte Foust)
Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2005 08:11:00 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Compact & Repair (Urgent)
Message-ID: <E61FC1D4B1918244905B113C680BEA86873ACA@infoserver01.infostat.local>

That's pretty much the way the internal compact and repair works as
well.

Charlotte Foust


-----Original Message-----
From: paul.hartland at fsmail.net [mailto:paul.hartland at fsmail.net] 
Sent: Monday, June 27, 2005 2:57 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Compact & Repair (Urgent)


This is a snippet of code I used to use, if anyone has a better way I
would also like to see it:

Dim MyDate As String
    MyDate = Left(Date, 2) & "_" & Mid(Date, 4, 2) & "_" & Right(Date,
2)
    FileCopy "Database", "Database_Backup" & MyDate & ".mdb"
    DBEngine.CompactDatabase "Database_Backup"& MyDate & ".mdb",
"Database_Compact"
    Kill "Database"
    Name "Database_Compact" As "Database"

Database = Original Database
Database_Backup = Backup (Just in case of an OOPS)

Database_Compact = Name of database once compacted & repaired



Message date : Jun 27 2005, 10:43 AM
>From : "Sad Der"
To : "Acces User Group" 
Copy to : 
Subject : [AccessD] Compact & Repair (Urgent)
Hi,

I forgot my CD's from the ADHB2K. I've got the book
here but I cannot seem to find the code to compact and
repair an access database.

Has anyone got it or knows where in the book I can
find it?

Thnx!!!!!!!!

Regards,

SD



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From martyconnelly at shaw.ca  Mon Jun 27 12:11:30 2005
From: martyconnelly at shaw.ca (MartyConnelly)
Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2005 10:11:30 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Import from FoxPro
References: <000201c5793c$c6381510$6401a8c0@laptop1>
Message-ID: <42C03342.5040407@shaw.ca>

If all else fails there is the VFP 9.0 OLE DB Provider to get at the dbc 
file or directory of tables via ADO

I tried downloading the old ODBC Ver 6.0 driver from the main MS Foxpro 
page but that doesn't work
and maybe bad to install on WinXP or Win2000, Microsoft is unclear on this.


This code will read the VFP 9.0 Northwinds Foxpro Sample database that 
comes with the provider


'With the release of Microsoft Visual FoxPro 9.0,
'a new version of the Microsoft OLE DB Provider for Visual FoxPro is now 
available.
'The OLE DB provider is installed when Visual FoxPro 9.0 is installed
'and is typically saved in the C:\Program Files\Common Files\System\Ole 
DB folder.
'It is a single file that is named VfpOleDb.dll and is version 9.0.0.2412.
'To download the OLE DB provider for free, visit the following Microsoft 
Web site:
'http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyId=E1A87D8F-2D58-491F-A0FA-95A3289C5FD4&displaylang=en
Sub testvfp()
Dim oConn As ADODB.Connection
Dim oRS As ADODB.Recordset
Set oConn = New ADODB.Connection
Set oRS = New ADODB.Recordset
oConn.ConnectionString = "provider=vfpoledb.1;" & _
   "data source=C:\Program Files\Microsoft Visual FoxPro OLE DB 
Provider\Samples\Northwind\northwind.dbc"
  
' ConnStr = "Driver=Microsoft Visual Foxpro Driver; " + _
'   "UID=;SourceType=DBC;SourceDB=C:\VFP\Samples\Tastrade\Data\Tastrade.dbc"
oConn.Open

'Make sure the connection opened:
If Not CBool(oConn.State And adStateOpen) Then
  'Could not open the connection:
  MsgBox "Could not open connection..."
  Set oConn = Nothing
    Set oRS = Nothing
  Exit Sub
Else
  'Process data as usual here...

        Dim oCat As New ADOX.Catalog
        Dim oTbl As ADOX.Table
         Dim oTblc As ADOX.Table
         Dim oname As ADOX.DataTypeEnum
        Dim oCol As Column
       
            oCat.ActiveConnection = oConn

                Debug.Print "TableName   number of columns"
            For Each oTbl In oCat.Tables
                Debug.Print oTbl.Name & "   " & oTbl.Columns.Count
            Next

            Set oTblc = oCat.Tables("Customers")
             Debug.Print ADOX.DataTypeEnum.adChar; ADOX.DataTypeEnum.adChar

            For Each oCol In oTblc.Columns
                Debug.Print oCol.Name & ": " & oCol.DefinedSize & _
                          ": " & oCol.Type
            Next

oRS.Open "SELECT * FROM Customers", oConn

With oRS
  .MoveFirst
  Debug.Print oRS.Fields.Item(0), oRS.Fields.Item(1)
End With
End If
Dim rsSchema As ADODB.Recordset
Dim fld As ADODB.Field
Dim rCriteria As Variant
'Pass in the table name to retrieve index info. The other
'array parameters may be defined as follows:
'    TABLE_CATALOG  (first parameter)
'    TABLE_SCHEMA   (second)
'    INDEX_NAME     (third)
'    TYPE           (fourth)
'    TABLE_NAME     (fifth, e.g. "employee")

rCriteria = Array(Empty, Empty, Empty, Empty, "Customers")

Set rsSchema = oConn.OpenSchema(adSchemaIndexes, rCriteria)

Debug.Print "Recordcount: " & rsSchema.RecordCount

While Not rsSchema.EOF
      Debug.Print "==================================================="

   For Each fld In rsSchema.Fields
      Debug.Print fld.Name & ": " & fld.Value
      'Debug.Print "------------------------------------------------"
   Next
   rsSchema.MoveNext
Wend
rsSchema.Close
Set rsSchema = Nothing
 Set oConn = Nothing
End Sub

Joe Hecht wrote:

>I have had to through Excel sometimes for FP Tables.
>
>Check your properties after importing to Access
>
>Joe Hecht
>Los Angeles CA
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Hollis,Virginia
>Sent: Friday, June 24, 2005 4:40 AM
>To: accessD at databaseadvisors.com
>Subject: [AccessD] Import from FoxPro
>
>Ok, what is the secret to importing from FoxPro to Access 2003? It is
>not in the list of types anymore. I looked through the KB articles but
>still have problems.
>
> 
>
>I pulled the tables up in Visual FoxPro, saved them out as dBase IV
>files, and then tried to import them into Access 2003.  I got the
>message:
>
> 
>
>"Unexpected Error from External Database Driver (8961)"
>
> 
>
>I was able to create an ODBC datasource based on a FoxPro driver that
>was already on my computer.  I tried to import the tables, and it looked
>like it was going to do it, but then I got an error, "Decimal field
>precision too small...
>
> 
>
>I'm running out of ideas.
>
> 
>
>Virginia
>
> 
>
>  
>

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From newsgrps at dalyn.co.nz  Mon Jun 27 12:30:42 2005
From: newsgrps at dalyn.co.nz (David Emerson)
Date: Tue, 28 Jun 2005 05:30:42 +1200
Subject: [AccessD] Graph Rowsource
In-Reply-To: <KDEHKEMIOHGKCDHLPPLKEEACFGAA.dmcafee@pacbell.net>
References: <6.2.1.2.0.20050627171902.03200b00@mail.dalyn.co.nz>
	<KDEHKEMIOHGKCDHLPPLKEEACFGAA.dmcafee@pacbell.net>
Message-ID: <6.2.1.2.0.20050628052801.0312b1d0@mail.dalyn.co.nz>

Input parameter is set to Int.

The rowsource is for a graph on the report, not the report itself.  There 
doesn't seem to be a property for Input parameters in the graph's property box.

David

At 27/06/2005, you wrote:
>Are you sure you have an input parameter that is set to an INT and not a
>VARCHAR?
>
>Make sure the top line looks like this:
>
>ALTER PROCEDURE sprptIncomeNeedsChart (@txtClientIDNo AS INT) AS
>
>Then in your report, opent he properties box and in the Data tab, you can
>type in an Input parameter in either of the following manners:
>
>                 @txtClientIDNo = 1234
>                         or
>                 @txtClientIDNo = Forms![SomeForm]![txtClientIDNo]
>
>Its late, and I'm not getting everything through my thick skull right now.
>I'll take a look at it on the morning if nobody else has chimed in.
>
>David
>
>
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of David Emerson
>Sent: Sunday, June 26, 2005 10:40 PM
>To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
>Subject: RE: [AccessD] Graph Rowsource
>
>
>Running with this idea, how do I pass a parameter to the sproc.  In the
>recordsource I have:
>
>EXEC dbo.sprptIncomeNeedsChart ClientIDNo
>
>but it seems to be treating the field (ClientIDNo) as a varchar value
>('ClientIDNo'), not an integer (which the value is)
>
>I can't include the ClientIDNo field in the sproc and use child and master
>fields because I can't work out how not to include that field in the data
>being used in the graph itself.
>
>Here is the main part of the sproc:
>
>SELECT C1stName, CDisIncome AS [Required Funds], CDisIncP + CDisLumpSum +
>CDisSuper + CDisOtherInc AS [Available Funds]
>FROM vwCashManagement
>WHERE ClientIDNo = @txtClientIDNo
>UNION SELECT P1stName, PDisIncome AS [Required Funds], PDisIncC +
>PDisLumpSum + PDisSuper + PDisOtherInc AS [Available Funds]
>FROM vwCashManagement
>WHERE ClientIDNo = @txtClientIDNo
>
>
>David
>
>At 27/06/2005, you wrote:
> >Why don't you make the row source a Stored Procedure (sproc) and have the
> >sproc do the correct SELECT for you? That way you don't need to anything
> >fancy in the FE. I tend to not give users select rights to tables and make
> >everything sproc driven.
> >
> >D
> >
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> >[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of David Emerson
> >Sent: Sunday, June 26, 2005 7:44 PM
> >To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
> >Subject: [AccessD] Graph Rowsource
> >
> >
> >AccessXP ADP,  SQL2000
> >
> >I am trying to change a graphs rowsource via VBA.   When I have the
> >following in the Detail_Format section of the report -
> >
> >      Me!chtincNeeds.RowSource = "SELECT C1stName ...  " (Rest of query
> >omitted)
> >
> >I get an error 2191 - You can't set the rowsource property in print preview
> >or after printing has started.
> >
> >If I put it on the report's on open event I get error 2455 - You entered an
> >expression that has an invalid reference to the property RowSource.
> >
> >How can I dinamically change the rowsource?



From newsgrps at dalyn.co.nz  Mon Jun 27 12:37:43 2005
From: newsgrps at dalyn.co.nz (David Emerson)
Date: Tue, 28 Jun 2005 05:37:43 +1200
Subject: [AccessD] Graph Rowsource
Message-ID: <6.2.1.2.0.20050628053637.03143220@mail.dalyn.co.nz>

Thanks Jim,

I am starting to think that if I can't pass a parameter to the graph's 
rowsource then I will need to go your suggested way and create a table 
before running the report which has the data in it.

David

At 27/06/2005, you wrote:
>Hi David:
>
>You may have a look at an article posted to DBA site that deals specifically
>with changing report data source on the fly. Some of the information may be
>helpful:
>http://www.databaseadvisors.com/newsletters/newsletter112003/0311UnboundReports.htm
>
>HTH
>Jim
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of David Emerson
>Sent: Sunday, June 26, 2005 7:44 PM
>To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
>Subject: [AccessD] Graph Rowsource
>
>AccessXP ADP,  SQL2000
>
>I am trying to change a graphs rowsource via VBA.   When I have the
>following in the Detail_Format section of the report -
>
>      Me!chtincNeeds.RowSource = "SELECT C1stName ...  " (Rest of query
>omitted)
>
>I get an error 2191 - You can't set the rowsource property in print preview
>or after printing has started.
>
>If I put it on the report's on open event I get error 2455 - You entered an
>expression that has an invalid reference to the property RowSource.
>
>How can I dinamically change the rowsource?



From rl_stewart at highstream.net  Mon Jun 27 13:45:33 2005
From: rl_stewart at highstream.net (Robert L. Stewart)
Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2005 13:45:33 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Re: Normalizing issue
In-Reply-To: <200506261700.j5QH07R25531@databaseadvisors.com>
References: <200506261700.j5QH07R25531@databaseadvisors.com>
Message-ID: <6.2.1.2.2.20050627134219.039ed710@pop3.highstream.net>

Or, you could add a table for related parties and carry their role in that 
table.  Then you can get all the co-authors and illustrators, reviewers, etc.

tblPublicationRelatedParty
PublicationRelatedPartyID
PublicationID
PartyID
RoleID


At 12:00 PM 6/26/2005, you wrote:
>Date: Sun, 26 Jun 2005 12:45:21 -0400
>From: "Susan Harkins" <ssharkins at bellsouth.net>
>Subject: RE: [AccessD] Normalizing issue
>To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'"
>         <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
>Message-ID: <20050626164526.WJSK8050.ibm62aec.bellsouth.net at SUSANONE>
>Content-Type: text/plain;       charset="us-ascii"
>
>
>Next, you have the issue of multiple authors on a single book or article.
>
>=======For the purposes of this database, this won't be an issue. We're
>simply tracking the works of individual authors -- not the authors for
>individual works. But, if it comes up later, I won't have a problem revising
>it.
>
>You may have to distinguish the principal author from the others. Finally,
>let's take a case from my own sordid past in which I worked as part of a
>team on a book about an O-O language. I wrote three of the approximately 20
>chapters, and had no part in the writing of anything else in the book.
>Should those 3 instances be regarded as "articles"? In a way they are closer
>to articles than to authorship of the entire book.
>
>===========For the purposes of this db, that won't be an issue either --
>ditto above. There wouldn't be a record for an et. Al -- if an author wanted
>us to track a book they had contributed to, they would have to list the
>book's author, as published. Right now, we're not tracking that sort of
>thing, but it could come up later. What you did just push though, is the
>difference between writer and illustrator -- many of these people are
>illustrators and I haven't even allowed for that. <groan>
>
>Finally, the problem with using a pair of tables (Books and Mags) is that
>before you're done, a third medium will emerge (DVDs, say), and that will
>mean that you need to add a table at minimum. In light of this, my
>preference would be to create a table PublicationTypes, containing these
>three entries to start, and then have a single table containing the facts
>about the publications, and finally an Authors table containing the names of
>the authors of the various publications, perhaps also with a flag denoting
>"Principal author". This would enable "SQL: Access to SQL Server" to have
>either two principal authors or none, in addition to any number of ancillary
>authors.
>
>============Me too -- that is exactly what I've done because I've already
>added a third type already: books, periodicals, and online. You're
>absolutely right on this one. In the long run, I'd rather deal with the Null
>fields than compound all the queries, etc. with multiple tables.
>
>Susan H.




From ssharkins at bellsouth.net  Mon Jun 27 15:35:57 2005
From: ssharkins at bellsouth.net (Susan Harkins)
Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2005 16:35:57 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Re: Normalizing issue
In-Reply-To: <6.2.1.2.2.20050627134219.039ed710@pop3.highstream.net>
Message-ID: <20050627203557.KNJH29052.ibm68aec.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>

I think I've decided on a simple "people" table -- with a mtm related table
that describes their role in any publication. Seems to make the most sense
at this point. 

Susan H. 

Or, you could add a table for related parties and carry their role in that
table.  Then you can get all the co-authors and illustrators, reviewers,
etc.

tblPublicationRelatedParty
PublicationRelatedPartyID
PublicationID
PartyID
RoleID


At 12:00 PM 6/26/2005, you wrote:
>Date: Sun, 26 Jun 2005 12:45:21 -0400
>From: "Susan Harkins" <ssharkins at bellsouth.net>
>Subject: RE: [AccessD] Normalizing issue
>To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'"
>         <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
>Message-ID: <20050626164526.WJSK8050.ibm62aec.bellsouth.net at SUSANONE>
>Content-Type: text/plain;       charset="us-ascii"
>
>
>Next, you have the issue of multiple authors on a single book or article.
>
>=======For the purposes of this database, this won't be an issue. We're 
>simply tracking the works of individual authors -- not the authors for 
>individual works. But, if it comes up later, I won't have a problem 
>revising it.
>
>You may have to distinguish the principal author from the others. 
>Finally, let's take a case from my own sordid past in which I worked as 
>part of a team on a book about an O-O language. I wrote three of the 
>approximately 20 chapters, and had no part in the writing of anything else
in the book.
>Should those 3 instances be regarded as "articles"? In a way they are 
>closer to articles than to authorship of the entire book.
>
>===========For the purposes of this db, that won't be an issue either 
>-- ditto above. There wouldn't be a record for an et. Al -- if an 
>author wanted us to track a book they had contributed to, they would 
>have to list the book's author, as published. Right now, we're not 
>tracking that sort of thing, but it could come up later. What you did 
>just push though, is the difference between writer and illustrator -- 
>many of these people are illustrators and I haven't even allowed for 
>that. <groan>
>
>Finally, the problem with using a pair of tables (Books and Mags) is 
>that before you're done, a third medium will emerge (DVDs, say), and 
>that will mean that you need to add a table at minimum. In light of 
>this, my preference would be to create a table PublicationTypes, 
>containing these three entries to start, and then have a single table 
>containing the facts about the publications, and finally an Authors 
>table containing the names of the authors of the various publications, 
>perhaps also with a flag denoting "Principal author". This would enable 
>"SQL: Access to SQL Server" to have either two principal authors or 
>none, in addition to any number of ancillary authors.
>
>============Me too -- that is exactly what I've done because I've 
>already added a third type already: books, periodicals, and online. 
>You're absolutely right on this one. In the long run, I'd rather deal 
>with the Null fields than compound all the queries, etc. with multiple
tables.
>
>Susan H.


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From robert at servicexp.com  Mon Jun 27 16:56:29 2005
From: robert at servicexp.com (Robert Gracie)
Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2005 17:56:29 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Mappoint Control ?
Message-ID: <3C6BD610FA11044CADFC8C13E6D5508F4ECB@gbsserver.GBS.local>

Michael,
 MS says that you can't (or should not) use the Mappoint Control in VBA.
Didn't want to walk down a dead end one way street, if you know what I
mean.....

http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/default.asp?url=/library/en-us/mappoin
t2004/BIZAPIMapPointControl.asp

So let me ask you, are their any "gotcha's" working with the control in
VBA. Do you have access to the all the properties and methods in VBA?

Thanks!!!

Robert


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Michael R
Mattys
Sent: Monday, June 27, 2005 10:30 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Mappoint Control ?

Robert,

All of my work is done in A2K first.
What is it that needs to be figured out?

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From mmattys at rochester.rr.com  Mon Jun 27 17:04:26 2005
From: mmattys at rochester.rr.com (Michael R Mattys)
Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2005 18:04:26 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Mappoint Control ?
References: <3C6BD610FA11044CADFC8C13E6D5508F4ECB@gbsserver.GBS.local>
Message-ID: <034a01c57b64$30bcc1f0$0202a8c0@default>

----- Original Message -----
From: "Robert Gracie" <robert at servicexp.com>
To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving"
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Monday, June 27, 2005 5:56 PM
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Mappoint Control ?


> Michael,
>  MS says that you can't (or should not) use the Mappoint Control in VBA.
> Didn't want to walk down a dead end one way street, if you know what I
> mean.....
>
> http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/default.asp?url=/library/en-us/mappoin
> t2004/BIZAPIMapPointControl.asp
>
> So let me ask you, are their any "gotcha's" working with the control in
> VBA. Do you have access to the all the properties and methods in VBA?
>
> Thanks!!!

Robert,

You have access to everything that the MapPoint ActiveX
provides and there are no gotcha's that I have seen after
working with it daily for over 2 years.

Set up public boolean variables to turn on and off within the
Events because the app expects to complete it's own operations
in a timely fashion - you must not interfere with them - but that
is the same in any programming environment that you put it in.

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http://www.mattysconsulting.com



From newsgrps at dalyn.co.nz  Mon Jun 27 18:27:14 2005
From: newsgrps at dalyn.co.nz (David Emerson)
Date: Tue, 28 Jun 2005 11:27:14 +1200
Subject: [AccessD] Linking Graph to Report
Message-ID: <6.2.1.2.0.20050628112403.03148970@mail.dalyn.co.nz>

Access XP adp, SQL2000.

Thanks to all that responded to my previous graph problem.  I solved it by 
creating a temp table and inserted just the data required for the graphs 
into that.  Then I based the rowsource of the graph on the temp table.

Now back to my problem of last week.

I have a report with a graph on it.  The graph is to show the number of 
days it took to process client information.  Each month should have its own 
graph on a separate page.  The report's source is a stored procedure which 
provides the months as an integer in the form yyyymm.

SELECT ttmpPlanTrackGraph.ConsultPlanFranchise, ttmpPlanTrackGraph.YrMth
FROM ttmpPlanTrackGraph
GROUP BY ttmpPlanTrackGraph.ConsultPlanFranchise, ttmpPlanTrackGraph.YrMth

The graph's source is also a stored procedure which includes a field with 
the month in the same format.

SELECT ttmpPlanTrackGraph.ClientName, ttmpPlanTrackGraph.FranDays AS [Work 
Days in Fran], ttmpPlanTrackGraph.BurDays AS [Work Days in Bureau], 
ttmpPlanTrackGraph.ConsultPlanFranchise, ttmpPlanTrackGraph.YrMth
FROM ttmpPlanTrackGraph

I have set the Link Child Field and Link Master fields both to YrMth.  The 
report shows a different page for each month, however each graph shows all 
records, not just the one for the pages month.

How do I get only the relevant month's data showing on each page?

Regards

David Emerson
Dalyn Software Ltd
25 Cunliffe St, Churton Park
Wellington, New Zealand
Ph/Fax (04) 478-7456
Mobile 027-280-9348



From jmhecht at earthlink.net  Mon Jun 27 18:45:11 2005
From: jmhecht at earthlink.net (Joe Hecht)
Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2005 16:45:11 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] MS Reporting Services
Message-ID: <000901c57b72$42bdf280$6401a8c0@laptop1>

I am sending resumes again. Some one is asking for MS Reporting services.
 
What is it ?
 
Joe Hecht
Los Angeles CA
 


From newsgrps at dalyn.co.nz  Mon Jun 27 20:19:01 2005
From: newsgrps at dalyn.co.nz (David Emerson)
Date: Tue, 28 Jun 2005 13:19:01 +1200
Subject: [AccessD] Saving string > 256 chars in field
Message-ID: <6.2.1.2.0.20050628131416.02c78820@mail.dalyn.co.nz>

Access XP adp, SQL2000.

I have a field that needs to be filled with text based on the value of a 
check box.  When the check box is checked, then 1 of two tests are to be 
put into another varchar(1000) field.

However, 1 of the texts is greater than 256 characters long.  When I 
try

Me!txtCashRecommendation = strText

the first 256 characters are truncated and only the last letters appear in 
the field.

I have the latest service packs.  I can enter more than 256 characters 
directly into the field on the form.

How can I put the string into the field without it being truncated?


Regards

David Emerson
Dalyn Software Ltd
25 Cunliffe St, Churton Park
Wellington, New Zealand
Ph/Fax (04) 478-7456
Mobile 027-280-9348 



From ssharkins at bellsouth.net  Mon Jun 27 20:20:24 2005
From: ssharkins at bellsouth.net (Susan Harkins)
Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2005 21:20:24 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Saving string > 256 chars in field
In-Reply-To: <6.2.1.2.0.20050628131416.02c78820@mail.dalyn.co.nz>
Message-ID: <20050628012024.YQDQ25470.ibm57aec.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>

 I can enter more than 256 characters directly into the field on the form.

========The underlying Text field can hold only 255 characters. This is a
bound control, right?

Susan H. 



From newsgrps at dalyn.co.nz  Mon Jun 27 20:34:56 2005
From: newsgrps at dalyn.co.nz (David Emerson)
Date: Tue, 28 Jun 2005 13:34:56 +1200
Subject: [AccessD] Saving string > 256 chars in field
In-Reply-To: <20050628012024.YQDQ25470.ibm57aec.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>
References: <6.2.1.2.0.20050628131416.02c78820@mail.dalyn.co.nz>
	<20050628012024.YQDQ25470.ibm57aec.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>
Message-ID: <6.2.1.2.0.20050628133222.02c7c460@mail.dalyn.co.nz>

Yes it is bound, however the field is a nvarchar(1000).  I can manually 
type in more than 256 characters and they save ok.  It is just when I use VB.

David


At 28/06/2005, you wrote:
>  I can enter more than 256 characters directly into the field on the form.
>
>========The underlying Text field can hold only 255 characters. This is a
>bound control, right?
>
>Susan H.
>
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From ssharkins at bellsouth.net  Mon Jun 27 20:39:49 2005
From: ssharkins at bellsouth.net (Susan Harkins)
Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2005 21:39:49 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Saving string > 256 chars in field
In-Reply-To: <6.2.1.2.0.20050628133222.02c7c460@mail.dalyn.co.nz>
Message-ID: <20050628013949.JJKZ25209.ibm63aec.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>

Are you working in an .adp? 

Susan H. 

Yes it is bound, however the field is a nvarchar(1000).  I can manually type
in more than 256 characters and they save ok.  It is just when I use VB.




From newsgrps at dalyn.co.nz  Mon Jun 27 21:06:46 2005
From: newsgrps at dalyn.co.nz (David Emerson)
Date: Tue, 28 Jun 2005 14:06:46 +1200
Subject: [AccessD] Saving string > 256 chars in field
Message-ID: <6.2.1.2.0.20050628140640.02c78df0@mail.dalyn.co.nz>

Access XP adp, SQL2000.

I have a field that needs to be filled with text based on the value of a 
check box.  When the check box is checked, then 1 of two tests are to be 
put into another varchar(1000) field.

However, 1 of the texts is greater than 256 characters long.  When I 
try

Me!txtCashRecommendation = strText

the first 256 characters are truncated and only the last letters appear in 
the field.

I have the latest service packs.  I can enter more than 256 characters 
directly into the field on the form.

How can I put the string into the field without it being truncated?


Regards

David Emerson
Dalyn Software Ltd
25 Cunliffe St, Churton Park
Wellington, New Zealand
Ph/Fax (04) 478-7456
Mobile 027-280-9348 



From newsgrps at dalyn.co.nz  Mon Jun 27 21:07:36 2005
From: newsgrps at dalyn.co.nz (David Emerson)
Date: Tue, 28 Jun 2005 14:07:36 +1200
Subject: [AccessD] Saving string > 256 chars in field
Message-ID: <6.2.1.2.0.20050628140732.02c77920@mail.dalyn.co.nz>

Yes - Access XP adp, SQL2000.

David

At 28/06/2005, you wrote:
>Are you working in an .adp?
>
>Susan H.
>
>Yes it is bound, however the field is a nvarchar(1000).  I can manually type
>in more than 256 characters and they save ok.  It is just when I use VB.
>
>
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From dmcafee at pacbell.net  Mon Jun 27 21:21:58 2005
From: dmcafee at pacbell.net (dmcafee at pacbell.net)
Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2005 19:21:58 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Saving string > 256 chars in field
In-Reply-To: <6.2.1.2.0.20050628140732.02c77920@mail.dalyn.co.nz>
Message-ID: <KDEHKEMIOHGKCDHLPPLKIEALFGAA.dmcafee@pacbell.net>

This is a known issue. If you search the archives for Francisco Tapia name
you might find the right answer.

But if I remember correctly, you have to do your final select with that
field cast as a Text, so Access (trying to be too smart) will not truncate
what it considers a text field and then assumes it is a memo field.

David

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of David Emerson
Sent: Monday, June 27, 2005 7:08 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Saving string > 256 chars in field


Yes - Access XP adp, SQL2000.

David

At 28/06/2005, you wrote:
>Are you working in an .adp?
>
>Susan H.
>
>Yes it is bound, however the field is a nvarchar(1000).  I can manually
type
>in more than 256 characters and they save ok.  It is just when I use VB.



From newsgrps at dalyn.co.nz  Mon Jun 27 21:29:32 2005
From: newsgrps at dalyn.co.nz (David Emerson)
Date: Tue, 28 Jun 2005 14:29:32 +1200
Subject: [AccessD] Saving string > 256 chars in field
In-Reply-To: <KDEHKEMIOHGKCDHLPPLKIEALFGAA.dmcafee@pacbell.net>
References: <6.2.1.2.0.20050628140732.02c77920@mail.dalyn.co.nz>
	<KDEHKEMIOHGKCDHLPPLKIEALFGAA.dmcafee@pacbell.net>
Message-ID: <6.2.1.2.0.20050628142756.02c7e640@mail.dalyn.co.nz>

Thanks.  The archives haven't been available for the last couple of 
hours.  Will follow this up when they are back up.

David

At 28/06/2005, you wrote:
>This is a known issue. If you search the archives for Francisco Tapia name
>you might find the right answer.
>
>But if I remember correctly, you have to do your final select with that
>field cast as a Text, so Access (trying to be too smart) will not truncate
>what it considers a text field and then assumes it is a memo field.
>
>David
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of David Emerson
>Sent: Monday, June 27, 2005 7:08 PM
>To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
>Subject: RE: [AccessD] Saving string > 256 chars in field
>
>
>Yes - Access XP adp, SQL2000.
>
>David
>
>At 28/06/2005, you wrote:
> >Are you working in an .adp?
> >
> >Susan H.
> >
> >Yes it is bound, however the field is a nvarchar(1000).  I can manually
>type
> >in more than 256 characters and they save ok.  It is just when I use VB.
>
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From newsgrps at dalyn.co.nz  Mon Jun 27 22:50:58 2005
From: newsgrps at dalyn.co.nz (David Emerson)
Date: Tue, 28 Jun 2005 15:50:58 +1200
Subject: [AccessD] Saving string > 256 chars in field
In-Reply-To: <KDEHKEMIOHGKCDHLPPLKIEALFGAA.dmcafee@pacbell.net>
References: <6.2.1.2.0.20050628140732.02c77920@mail.dalyn.co.nz>
	<KDEHKEMIOHGKCDHLPPLKIEALFGAA.dmcafee@pacbell.net>
Message-ID: <6.2.1.2.0.20050628155023.02c7d180@mail.dalyn.co.nz>

I have tried the archives but cant find anything.  Francisco - can you 
remember what the subject was?

David

At 28/06/2005, you wrote:
>This is a known issue. If you search the archives for Francisco Tapia name
>you might find the right answer.
>
>But if I remember correctly, you have to do your final select with that
>field cast as a Text, so Access (trying to be too smart) will not truncate
>what it considers a text field and then assumes it is a memo field.
>
>David
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of David Emerson
>Sent: Monday, June 27, 2005 7:08 PM
>To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
>Subject: RE: [AccessD] Saving string > 256 chars in field
>
>
>Yes - Access XP adp, SQL2000.
>
>David
>
>At 28/06/2005, you wrote:
> >Are you working in an .adp?
> >
> >Susan H.
> >
> >Yes it is bound, however the field is a nvarchar(1000).  I can manually
>type
> >in more than 256 characters and they save ok.  It is just when I use VB.
>
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From accessd666 at yahoo.com  Tue Jun 28 06:44:51 2005
From: accessd666 at yahoo.com (Sad Der)
Date: Tue, 28 Jun 2005 04:44:51 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [AccessD] Multi-User ; Multi-location
Message-ID: <20050628114451.24676.qmail@web31605.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Hi group,

I've created a CRM application in Access for a single
user.
Now, off course, they want to make application
suitable for multi-users AND multi-locations.

Multi-user isn't that big a deal.
Multi-location is.

I've never dealt with a multi-location application
that exceeds the network boundries.

Does anybody have some suggestions, pitt-falls, etc
for me?
Is replication something I can use for this?

Thnx in advance!

Regards,

SD

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From carbonnb at gmail.com  Tue Jun 28 06:46:10 2005
From: carbonnb at gmail.com (Bryan Carbonnell)
Date: Tue, 28 Jun 2005 07:46:10 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Saving string > 256 chars in field
In-Reply-To: <6.2.1.2.0.20050628142756.02c7e640@mail.dalyn.co.nz>
References: <6.2.1.2.0.20050628140732.02c77920@mail.dalyn.co.nz>
	<KDEHKEMIOHGKCDHLPPLKIEALFGAA.dmcafee@pacbell.net>
	<6.2.1.2.0.20050628142756.02c7e640@mail.dalyn.co.nz>
Message-ID: <e04a6c920506280446478a5f16@mail.gmail.com>

On 6/27/05, David Emerson <newsgrps at dalyn.co.nz> wrote:
> Thanks.  The archives haven't been available for the last couple of
> hours.  Will follow this up when they are back up.

Which archives?

Drew's or the ones at databaseadvisors.com?

-- 
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preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, totally worn out,
shouting "What a great ride!"


From jimdettman at earthlink.net  Tue Jun 28 08:31:19 2005
From: jimdettman at earthlink.net (Jim Dettman)
Date: Tue, 28 Jun 2005 09:31:19 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Multi-User ; Multi-location
In-Reply-To: <20050628114451.24676.qmail@web31605.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <NDEALJOEGMMPCDKIFGNFKEGHDLAA.jimdettman@earthlink.net>

SD,

  With JET, replication is about the only answer if large numbers involved
(hundreds).  The other solution is to park a server somewhere  and use
Terminal Services or Citrix to remote in.  I'd do that if the number of
users was lower, say 50 or less.  If more then 50, then use replication or
switch the back end to something other then JET.

Jim.



-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Sad Der
Sent: Tuesday, June 28, 2005 7:45 AM
To: Acces User Group
Subject: [AccessD] Multi-User ; Multi-location


Hi group,

I've created a CRM application in Access for a single
user.
Now, off course, they want to make application
suitable for multi-users AND multi-locations.

Multi-user isn't that big a deal.
Multi-location is.

I've never dealt with a multi-location application
that exceeds the network boundries.

Does anybody have some suggestions, pitt-falls, etc
for me?
Is replication something I can use for this?

Thnx in advance!

Regards,

SD

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From Gustav at cactus.dk  Tue Jun 28 12:01:21 2005
From: Gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Tue, 28 Jun 2005 19:01:21 +0200
Subject: [AccessD] TAPI and IP telephoning and direct call via web interface
Message-ID: <s2c19e8b.069@cactus.dk>

Hi All

We are now selling open-source Asterix PBX running on Linux and the IP
Switchboard here:

  http://ipswitchboard.thorben.dk 

With the new possibilities with IP telephoning TAPI has become much
more interesting as, of course, a TAPI driver is available for Asterix,
AstTapi:

  http://sourceforge.net/projects/asttapi/

Here is TAPI VB sample code, much info, and a demo/test application
called vbTapi.exe:

  http://www.shrinkwrapvb.com/vbtapi.htm 

Much commented source code is included here as well as a class which
should be portable to VBA.

Also, note that many (all?) IP phones do have a web interface. At that
of the Snom phones:

  http://www.snom.com

you can type a number to dial and the phone will dial this number just
like that. I guess you could wrap that into a function which could be
much simpler than the TAPI thing but with no feedback.

/gustav


From DWUTKA at marlow.com  Tue Jun 28 13:18:43 2005
From: DWUTKA at marlow.com (DWUTKA at marlow.com)
Date: Tue, 28 Jun 2005 13:18:43 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Saving string > 256 chars in field
Message-ID: <123701F54509D9119A4F00D0B747349016D7BA@main2.marlow.com>

Mine are down...will be a month or so until I have them up....

Drew

-----Original Message-----
From: Bryan Carbonnell [mailto:carbonnb at gmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, June 28, 2005 6:46 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Saving string > 256 chars in field


On 6/27/05, David Emerson <newsgrps at dalyn.co.nz> wrote:
> Thanks.  The archives haven't been available for the last couple of
> hours.  Will follow this up when they are back up.

Which archives?

Drew's or the ones at databaseadvisors.com?

-- 
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preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, totally worn out,
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From newsgrps at dalyn.co.nz  Tue Jun 28 15:00:32 2005
From: newsgrps at dalyn.co.nz (David Emerson)
Date: Wed, 29 Jun 2005 08:00:32 +1200
Subject: [AccessD] Saving string > 256 chars in field
In-Reply-To: <123701F54509D9119A4F00D0B747349016D7BA@main2.marlow.com>
References: <123701F54509D9119A4F00D0B747349016D7BA@main2.marlow.com>
Message-ID: <6.2.1.2.0.20050629075956.02c88b70@mail.dalyn.co.nz>

It was the databaseadvisors.com website.  It was available again later in 
the day.

David

At 29/06/2005, you wrote:
>Mine are down...will be a month or so until I have them up....
>
>Drew
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Bryan Carbonnell [mailto:carbonnb at gmail.com]
>Sent: Tuesday, June 28, 2005 6:46 AM
>To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
>Subject: Re: [AccessD] Saving string > 256 chars in field
>
>
>On 6/27/05, David Emerson <newsgrps at dalyn.co.nz> wrote:
> > Thanks.  The archives haven't been available for the last couple of
> > hours.  Will follow this up when they are back up.
>
>Which archives?
>
>Drew's or the ones at databaseadvisors.com?
>
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From prodevmg at yahoo.com  Tue Jun 28 16:38:18 2005
From: prodevmg at yahoo.com (Lonnie Johnson)
Date: Tue, 28 Jun 2005 14:38:18 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [AccessD] Can I spell check an unbound field?
In-Reply-To: <6.2.1.2.0.20050629075956.02c88b70@mail.dalyn.co.nz>
Message-ID: <20050628213818.23178.qmail@web33112.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

I think the answer is no, but there is always a guru with a hack.
 
I have a form that is unbound. I have a large memo field and I would like to spellcheck that memo field before appending it to the actual recordset that it will go to.
 
Can it be done?



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From dwaters at usinternet.com  Tue Jun 28 17:10:41 2005
From: dwaters at usinternet.com (Dan Waters)
Date: Tue, 28 Jun 2005 15:10:41 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Can I spell check an unbound field?
In-Reply-To: <5668356.1119994458524.JavaMail.root@sniper21>
Message-ID: <000201c57c2e$3a26ac40$0518820a@danwaters>

Lonnie,

Yes!  But I'll have to get back to you in a few hours.

Dan Waters

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[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Lonnie Johnson
Sent: Tuesday, June 28, 2005 2:38 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: [AccessD] Can I spell check an unbound field?

I think the answer is no, but there is always a guru with a hack.
 
I have a form that is unbound. I have a large memo field and I would like to
spellcheck that memo field before appending it to the actual recordset that
it will go to.
 
Can it be done?



May God bless you beyond your imagination!
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ProDev, Professional Development of MS Access Databases
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From prodevmg at yahoo.com  Tue Jun 28 17:14:28 2005
From: prodevmg at yahoo.com (Lonnie Johnson)
Date: Tue, 28 Jun 2005 15:14:28 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [AccessD] Can I spell check an unbound field?
In-Reply-To: <000201c57c2e$3a26ac40$0518820a@danwaters>
Message-ID: <20050628221428.39535.qmail@web33106.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Thanks. I may have to leave this and come back to it in the morning anyway.

Dan Waters <dwaters at usinternet.com> wrote:Lonnie,

Yes! But I'll have to get back to you in a few hours.

Dan Waters

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Lonnie Johnson
Sent: Tuesday, June 28, 2005 2:38 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: [AccessD] Can I spell check an unbound field?

I think the answer is no, but there is always a guru with a hack.

I have a form that is unbound. I have a large memo field and I would like to
spellcheck that memo field before appending it to the actual recordset that
it will go to.

Can it be done?



May God bless you beyond your imagination!
Lonnie Johnson
ProDev, Professional Development of MS Access Databases
Visit me at ==> http://www.prodev.us











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From accessd at shaw.ca  Tue Jun 28 17:17:00 2005
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Tue, 28 Jun 2005 15:17:00 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] TAPI and IP telephoning and direct call via web
	interface
In-Reply-To: <s2c19e8b.069@cactus.dk>
Message-ID: <0IIT0040HF89MD@l-daemon>

Wow, that is awesome Gustav.

It looks like some very interesting! 
 
Jim

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gustav Brock
Sent: Tuesday, June 28, 2005 10:01 AM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [AccessD] TAPI and IP telephoning and direct call via web interface

Hi All

We are now selling open-source Asterix PBX running on Linux and the IP
Switchboard here:

  http://ipswitchboard.thorben.dk 

With the new possibilities with IP telephoning TAPI has become much
more interesting as, of course, a TAPI driver is available for Asterix,
AstTapi:

  http://sourceforge.net/projects/asttapi/

Here is TAPI VB sample code, much info, and a demo/test application
called vbTapi.exe:

  http://www.shrinkwrapvb.com/vbtapi.htm 

Much commented source code is included here as well as a class which
should be portable to VBA.

Also, note that many (all?) IP phones do have a web interface. At that
of the Snom phones:

  http://www.snom.com

you can type a number to dial and the phone will dial this number just
like that. I guess you could wrap that into a function which could be
much simpler than the TAPI thing but with no feedback.

/gustav
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From darsant at gmail.com  Tue Jun 28 17:19:07 2005
From: darsant at gmail.com (Josh McFarlane)
Date: Tue, 28 Jun 2005 17:19:07 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Can I spell check an unbound field?
In-Reply-To: <20050628213818.23178.qmail@web33112.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <6.2.1.2.0.20050629075956.02c88b70@mail.dalyn.co.nz>
	<20050628213818.23178.qmail@web33112.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <53c8e05a050628151945a82603@mail.gmail.com>

On 6/28/05, Lonnie Johnson <prodevmg at yahoo.com> wrote:
> I think the answer is no, but there is always a guru with a hack.
> 
> I have a form that is unbound. I have a large memo field and I would like to spellcheck that memo field before appending it to the actual recordset that it will go to.
> 
> Can it be done?

Is there a way to do it? Yes.

However, the method I know involves creating a MicrosoftWord object
and piping the text into the document, spellchecking it in word, then
returning the mispelled words along with the suggestions. It's a lot
of hassle, and someone else might know a better way to use Access's
Spellcheck.

If you're still interested though, let me know and I'll throw some
example code up here.
-- 
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-Albert Einstein


From bchacc at san.rr.com  Tue Jun 28 17:27:29 2005
From: bchacc at san.rr.com (Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software)
Date: Tue, 28 Jun 2005 15:27:29 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Can I spell check an unbound field?
References: <20050628213818.23178.qmail@web33112.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <02bd01c57c30$91ec3ce0$6701a8c0@HAL9004>

OK.  Here's my hack.  Create a table with one field.  Bind your form to that 
table (I'm assuming the form's not bound to a table already.  If so I guess 
you could add this field to the table).  Put an invisible text box on your 
form bound to that field.  In the after update event of the text box copy 
the contents of the unbound text box to the field in the table using DAO. 
Requery the form so the text is in the invisible text box.  Spell check the 
bound text box.

There's got to be an easier way.  Stand by for better ideas...

Rocky

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From: "Lonnie Johnson" <prodevmg at yahoo.com>
To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving" 
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Tuesday, June 28, 2005 2:38 PM
Subject: [AccessD] Can I spell check an unbound field?


>I think the answer is no, but there is always a guru with a hack.
>
> I have a form that is unbound. I have a large memo field and I would like 
> to spellcheck that memo field before appending it to the actual recordset 
> that it will go to.
>
> Can it be done?
>
>
>
> May God bless you beyond your imagination!
> Lonnie Johnson
> ProDev, Professional Development of MS Access Databases
> Visit me at ==> http://www.prodev.us
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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From cfoust at infostatsystems.com  Tue Jun 28 18:12:44 2005
From: cfoust at infostatsystems.com (Charlotte Foust)
Date: Tue, 28 Jun 2005 16:12:44 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Can I spell check an unbound field?
Message-ID: <E61FC1D4B1918244905B113C680BEA86873AD8@infoserver01.infostat.local>

Public Function SpellCheckField(ctl As Control)
  'created by Charlotte Foust 3/27/2000
  'runs default spell checker on the control
  'passed into the function
  On Error Resume Next
  ctl.SelStart = 0
  ctl.SelLength = Len(ctl)
  DoCmd.RunCommand acCmdSpelling
End Function 'SpellCheckField(ctl As Control)

Charlotte Foust


-----Original Message-----
From: Lonnie Johnson [mailto:prodevmg at yahoo.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, June 28, 2005 2:38 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: [AccessD] Can I spell check an unbound field?


I think the answer is no, but there is always a guru with a hack.
 
I have a form that is unbound. I have a large memo field and I would
like to spellcheck that memo field before appending it to the actual
recordset that it will go to.
 
Can it be done?



May God bless you beyond your imagination!
Lonnie Johnson
ProDev, Professional Development of MS Access Databases
Visit me at ==> http://www.prodev.us





 





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From Developer at UltraDNT.com  Tue Jun 28 18:34:51 2005
From: Developer at UltraDNT.com (Steve Conklin (Developer@UltraDNT))
Date: Tue, 28 Jun 2005 19:34:51 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] MS Reporting Services
In-Reply-To: <000901c57b72$42bdf280$6401a8c0@laptop1>
Message-ID: <001501c57c39$fe22a2b0$640fa8c0@CONKEY2000>

They must mean MS's SQL Server Reporting Services.
www.microsoft.com/sql/reporting/default.asp 

Hth
Steve


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Joe Hecht
Sent: Monday, June 27, 2005 7:45 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] MS Reporting Services


I am sending resumes again. Some one is asking for MS Reporting
services.
 
What is it ?
 
Joe Hecht
Los Angeles CA
 
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From bheygood at abestsystems.com  Tue Jun 28 20:28:03 2005
From: bheygood at abestsystems.com (Bob Heygood)
Date: Tue, 28 Jun 2005 18:28:03 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] ole Excel in Access report
In-Reply-To: <123701F54509D9119A4F00D0B747349016D7BA@main2.marlow.com>
Message-ID: <AIEKKBIAKDJNAFGABNJKIEHBCOAA.bheygood@abestsystems.com>

Hello to the list,
I would like to display some Excel sheets in an Access report.
I have been successful in getting one page of one sheet of a workbook in an
unbound ole control.
Does someone have an example of how I can place all of a workbook including
all sheets and all pages of each sheet in my report?
This does not have to be "linked", but would be nice.
Size of the database is not a consideration, so embedding is ok.

best,

bob





From carbonnb at gmail.com  Tue Jun 28 21:42:15 2005
From: carbonnb at gmail.com (Bryan Carbonnell)
Date: Tue, 28 Jun 2005 22:42:15 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Saving string > 256 chars in field
In-Reply-To: <6.2.1.2.0.20050629075956.02c88b70@mail.dalyn.co.nz>
References: <123701F54509D9119A4F00D0B747349016D7BA@main2.marlow.com>
	<6.2.1.2.0.20050629075956.02c88b70@mail.dalyn.co.nz>
Message-ID: <e04a6c920506281942774b16d0@mail.gmail.com>

On 6/28/05, David Emerson <newsgrps at dalyn.co.nz> wrote:
> It was the databaseadvisors.com website.  It was available again later in
> the day.

Interesting. I'll see what I can see about why it was down.

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From dba.email at gmail.com  Wed Jun 29 07:39:34 2005
From: dba.email at gmail.com (Admin Sparky)
Date: Wed, 29 Jun 2005 08:39:34 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Shell /cmd
Message-ID: <5f2de24205062905391412a283@mail.gmail.com>

Group,

Can someone interpret this?  This line of code is behind a button on a
PowerPoint slide.  As I understand it, the purpose of the button is to
allow the user to acknowledge that they have read the material.  This
acknowledgement is tracked by an entry into a database.  What exactly
is happening here?  They are obviously checking for an Access
version...but what I'm looking for is a short explanation as to how
this line of code is shelling out to Access and making an entry into a
tracking database.  What am I missing?

Watch for major line wrap.

Thanks for any enlightenment,

Mark

<code>
Private Sub CommandButton2_Click()
    If InStr(1, Me.Application.Version, "11", vbTextCompare) Then
        Shell ("C:\Program Files\Microsoft
Office\Office11\MSAccess.exe
""G:\Quality_Plan\DocuTracker\docutracker.mdb"" /cmd
""G:\Quality_Plan\DocuTracker\E15Insight\2-10 (E12 Info).pps""")
    ElseIf InStr(1, Me.Application.Version, "10", vbTextCompare) Then
        Shell ("C:\Program Files\Microsoft
Office\Office10\MSAccess.exe
""G:\Quality_Plan\DocuTracker\docutracker.mdb"" /cmd
""G:\Quality_Plan\DocuTracker\E15Insight\2-10 (E12 Info).pps""")
    Else
        MsgBox "Old Office version. Not Recorded. Contact admin for
help.", vbCritical + vbOKOnly
    End If
    Me.Application.Quit
End Sub
</code>


From dba.email at gmail.com  Wed Jun 29 07:59:39 2005
From: dba.email at gmail.com (Admin Sparky)
Date: Wed, 29 Jun 2005 08:59:39 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Re: Shell /cmd
In-Reply-To: <5f2de24205062905391412a283@mail.gmail.com>
References: <5f2de24205062905391412a283@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <5f2de2420506290559661d15ee@mail.gmail.com>

Thanks anyway...found it.  This was one of those situations where it
didn't matter how simple the concept was...I had just never seen it or
had a need for it.

"When Microsoft Access is launched from the command line, any portion
of the command line that follows the /cmd option is passed to the
program as the command-line argument. You can use the Command function
to return the argument that has been passed."

Mark


On 6/29/05, Admin Sparky <dba.email at gmail.com> wrote:
> Group,
> 
> Can someone interpret this?  This line of code is behind a button on a
> PowerPoint slide.  As I understand it, the purpose of the button is to
> allow the user to acknowledge that they have read the material.  This
> acknowledgement is tracked by an entry into a database.  What exactly
> is happening here?  They are obviously checking for an Access
> version...but what I'm looking for is a short explanation as to how
> this line of code is shelling out to Access and making an entry into a
> tracking database.  What am I missing?
> 
> Watch for major line wrap.
> 
> Thanks for any enlightenment,
> 
> Mark
> 
> <code>
> Private Sub CommandButton2_Click()
>    If InStr(1, Me.Application.Version, "11", vbTextCompare) Then
>        Shell ("C:\Program Files\Microsoft
> Office\Office11\MSAccess.exe
> ""G:\Quality_Plan\DocuTracker\docutracker.mdb"" /cmd
> ""G:\Quality_Plan\DocuTracker\E15Insight\2-10 (E12 Info).pps""")
>    ElseIf InStr(1, Me.Application.Version, "10", vbTextCompare) Then
>        Shell ("C:\Program Files\Microsoft
> Office\Office10\MSAccess.exe
> ""G:\Quality_Plan\DocuTracker\docutracker.mdb"" /cmd
> ""G:\Quality_Plan\DocuTracker\E15Insight\2-10 (E12 Info).pps""")
>    Else
>        MsgBox "Old Office version. Not Recorded. Contact admin for
> help.", vbCritical + vbOKOnly
>    End If
>    Me.Application.Quit
> End Sub
> </code>
>


From mikedorism at verizon.net  Wed Jun 29 08:08:07 2005
From: mikedorism at verizon.net (Mike & Doris Manning)
Date: Wed, 29 Jun 2005 09:08:07 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Shell /cmd
In-Reply-To: <5f2de24205062905391412a283@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <000501c57cab$980a2260$2f01a8c0@hargrove.internal>

Check the database for an AutoExec macro that runs at startup.  You will
probably find the missing pieces there.

Doris Manning
Database Administrator
Hargrove Inc.
www.hargroveinc.com


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Admin Sparky
Sent: Wednesday, June 29, 2005 8:40 AM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [AccessD] Shell /cmd


Group,

Can someone interpret this?  This line of code is behind a button on a
PowerPoint slide.  As I understand it, the purpose of the button is to allow
the user to acknowledge that they have read the material.  This
acknowledgement is tracked by an entry into a database.  What exactly is
happening here?  They are obviously checking for an Access version...but
what I'm looking for is a short explanation as to how this line of code is
shelling out to Access and making an entry into a tracking database.  What
am I missing?

Watch for major line wrap.

Thanks for any enlightenment,

Mark

<code>
Private Sub CommandButton2_Click()
    If InStr(1, Me.Application.Version, "11", vbTextCompare) Then
        Shell ("C:\Program Files\Microsoft Office\Office11\MSAccess.exe
""G:\Quality_Plan\DocuTracker\docutracker.mdb"" /cmd
""G:\Quality_Plan\DocuTracker\E15Insight\2-10 (E12 Info).pps""")
    ElseIf InStr(1, Me.Application.Version, "10", vbTextCompare) Then
        Shell ("C:\Program Files\Microsoft Office\Office10\MSAccess.exe
""G:\Quality_Plan\DocuTracker\docutracker.mdb"" /cmd
""G:\Quality_Plan\DocuTracker\E15Insight\2-10 (E12 Info).pps""")
    Else
        MsgBox "Old Office version. Not Recorded. Contact admin for help.",
vbCritical + vbOKOnly
    End If
    Me.Application.Quit
End Sub
</code>
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From John.Clark at niagaracounty.com  Wed Jun 29 08:34:56 2005
From: John.Clark at niagaracounty.com (John Clark)
Date: Wed, 29 Jun 2005 09:34:56 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Changing table values via code
Message-ID: <s2c26b91.049@nebnov3.niagaracounty.com>

Hi everybody...long time since I've asked a question here, but I find
myself needing help again.

I am working on a db for a payroll dept. One of the things I need to do
for them is to keep a running total for time off. Basically each
employee will have a record in a table with fields for vacation,
personal, sick, etc., and I need to do two things with these numbers. I
need to add to these totals at the beginning of each years, as they earn
more time. And, I need to subtract from these totals as they use their
time. So, when a payroll clerk enters a value of 7 hrs vacation for an
employee on a given day, I need to subtract seven from their total
vacation hours.

Both of these will be done via code, at the time of the change, but I
have never done this before. I would appreciate any direction you could
offer.

Thank you


John W Clark


From darsant at gmail.com  Wed Jun 29 08:44:37 2005
From: darsant at gmail.com (Josh McFarlane)
Date: Wed, 29 Jun 2005 08:44:37 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Changing table values via code
In-Reply-To: <s2c26b91.049@nebnov3.niagaracounty.com>
References: <s2c26b91.049@nebnov3.niagaracounty.com>
Message-ID: <53c8e05a050629064429623988@mail.gmail.com>

On 6/29/05, John Clark <John.Clark at niagaracounty.com> wrote:
> Hi everybody...long time since I've asked a question here, but I find
> myself needing help again.
> 
> I am working on a db for a payroll dept. One of the things I need to do
> for them is to keep a running total for time off. Basically each
> employee will have a record in a table with fields for vacation,
> personal, sick, etc., and I need to do two things with these numbers. I
> need to add to these totals at the beginning of each years, as they earn
> more time. And, I need to subtract from these totals as they use their
> time. So, when a payroll clerk enters a value of 7 hrs vacation for an
> employee on a given day, I need to subtract seven from their total
> vacation hours.
> 
> Both of these will be done via code, at the time of the change, but I
> have never done this before. I would appreciate any direction you could
> offer.

Well, it depends on how you're looking to do it, but you can
self-reference to get the effect you're looking for in the format of X
= X - Y

rs.Fields("VacationTime") = rs.Fields("VacationTime") - nhoursUsed
or if you have both values form named nVacationTime (bound) and
nHoursUsed (could be unbound or bound)
nVacationTime = nVacationTime - nHoursUsed
-- 
HTH
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-Albert Einstein


From cyx5 at cdc.gov  Wed Jun 29 08:47:32 2005
From: cyx5 at cdc.gov (Nicholson, Karen)
Date: Wed, 29 Jun 2005 09:47:32 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Changing table values via code
Message-ID: <A5B5AA20555F594BA7B6BD2048E49E4376FB05@m-niosh-5.niosh.cdc.gov>

Is there a reason why you need to store a calculated field in a field?
Does this need to be displayed on a form?  On a report? 

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of John Clark
Sent: Wednesday, June 29, 2005 9:35 AM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [AccessD] Changing table values via code

Hi everybody...long time since I've asked a question here, but I find
myself needing help again.

I am working on a db for a payroll dept. One of the things I need to do
for them is to keep a running total for time off. Basically each
employee will have a record in a table with fields for vacation,
personal, sick, etc., and I need to do two things with these numbers. I
need to add to these totals at the beginning of each years, as they earn
more time. And, I need to subtract from these totals as they use their
time. So, when a payroll clerk enters a value of 7 hrs vacation for an
employee on a given day, I need to subtract seven from their total
vacation hours.

Both of these will be done via code, at the time of the change, but I
have never done this before. I would appreciate any direction you could
offer.

Thank you


John W Clark
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From John.Clark at niagaracounty.com  Wed Jun 29 09:05:21 2005
From: John.Clark at niagaracounty.com (John Clark)
Date: Wed, 29 Jun 2005 10:05:21 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Changing table values via code
Message-ID: <s2c272bc.012@nebnov3.niagaracounty.com>

I just need to keep a running tally of time off. An employee may call up
and say, "How much vacation time do I have?" They need to look this up
and give a quick answer. Also, yes, I will be putting these on a
report(s), as well.

>>> cyx5 at cdc.gov 6/29/2005 9:47:32 AM >>>
Is there a reason why you need to store a calculated field in a field?
Does this need to be displayed on a form?  On a report? 

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com 
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of John Clark
Sent: Wednesday, June 29, 2005 9:35 AM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com 
Subject: [AccessD] Changing table values via code

Hi everybody...long time since I've asked a question here, but I find
myself needing help again.

I am working on a db for a payroll dept. One of the things I need to
do
for them is to keep a running total for time off. Basically each
employee will have a record in a table with fields for vacation,
personal, sick, etc., and I need to do two things with these numbers.
I
need to add to these totals at the beginning of each years, as they
earn
more time. And, I need to subtract from these totals as they use their
time. So, when a payroll clerk enters a value of 7 hrs vacation for an
employee on a given day, I need to subtract seven from their total
vacation hours.

Both of these will be done via code, at the time of the change, but I
have never done this before. I would appreciate any direction you
could
offer.

Thank you


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From cyx5 at cdc.gov  Wed Jun 29 09:10:28 2005
From: cyx5 at cdc.gov (Nicholson, Karen)
Date: Wed, 29 Jun 2005 10:10:28 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Changing table values via code
Message-ID: <A5B5AA20555F594BA7B6BD2048E49E4376FB08@m-niosh-5.niosh.cdc.gov>

Put it in a query, grouping my employeeid, totalling by hours offered
and hours taken. 

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of John Clark
Sent: Wednesday, June 29, 2005 10:05 AM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Changing table values via code

I just need to keep a running tally of time off. An employee may call up
and say, "How much vacation time do I have?" They need to look this up
and give a quick answer. Also, yes, I will be putting these on a
report(s), as well.

>>> cyx5 at cdc.gov 6/29/2005 9:47:32 AM >>>
Is there a reason why you need to store a calculated field in a field?
Does this need to be displayed on a form?  On a report? 

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of John Clark
Sent: Wednesday, June 29, 2005 9:35 AM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [AccessD] Changing table values via code

Hi everybody...long time since I've asked a question here, but I find
myself needing help again.

I am working on a db for a payroll dept. One of the things I need to do
for them is to keep a running total for time off. Basically each
employee will have a record in a table with fields for vacation,
personal, sick, etc., and I need to do two things with these numbers.
I
need to add to these totals at the beginning of each years, as they earn
more time. And, I need to subtract from these totals as they use their
time. So, when a payroll clerk enters a value of 7 hrs vacation for an
employee on a given day, I need to subtract seven from their total
vacation hours.

Both of these will be done via code, at the time of the change, but I
have never done this before. I would appreciate any direction you could
offer.

Thank you


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From paul.hartland at fsmail.net  Wed Jun 29 09:36:38 2005
From: paul.hartland at fsmail.net (paul.hartland at fsmail.net)
Date: Wed, 29 Jun 2005 16:36:38 +0200 (CEST)
Subject: [AccessD] Fastest Way To Get Data Field From Recordset
Message-ID: <1029086.1120055798615.JavaMail.www@wwinf3002>

To all,

I have taken over a project and where I would normally use something like

strMinPayroll = rsMinPayroll.Fields("LowPayrollNo")

it is written as

strMinPayroll = rsMinPayroll!LowPayroll

Is there a difference in speed with these, i.e. is one more efficient than the other etc....

Thanks in advance for any help on this...

Paul Hartland

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From jimdettman at earthlink.net  Wed Jun 29 09:44:10 2005
From: jimdettman at earthlink.net (Jim Dettman)
Date: Wed, 29 Jun 2005 10:44:10 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Changing table values via code
In-Reply-To: <A5B5AA20555F594BA7B6BD2048E49E4376FB08@m-niosh-5.niosh.cdc.gov>
Message-ID: <NDEALJOEGMMPCDKIFGNFOENDDLAA.jimdettman@earthlink.net>


  I'd second that.  Definitely keep a record of hours earned and hours used.
When someone doesn't like the answer they get on what's left,  your going to
need that detail<g>.

  Now although it's considered a no-no, you may want keep a summary field in
a record and update that every time you write a record into the above table.

 The approach I like to use though is to always generate a balance by
totaling the records, but include the ability to store a "balance forward"
record when a purge is done.  The balance forward record is a summary of the
purged detail.  This allows a client to purge the table when performance
issues start to creep in, but still maintain a sound relational design.

Jim.

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Nicholson,
Karen
Sent: Wednesday, June 29, 2005 10:10 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Changing table values via code


Put it in a query, grouping my employeeid, totalling by hours offered
and hours taken.

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of John Clark
Sent: Wednesday, June 29, 2005 10:05 AM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Changing table values via code

I just need to keep a running tally of time off. An employee may call up
and say, "How much vacation time do I have?" They need to look this up
and give a quick answer. Also, yes, I will be putting these on a
report(s), as well.

>>> cyx5 at cdc.gov 6/29/2005 9:47:32 AM >>>
Is there a reason why you need to store a calculated field in a field?
Does this need to be displayed on a form?  On a report?

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of John Clark
Sent: Wednesday, June 29, 2005 9:35 AM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [AccessD] Changing table values via code

Hi everybody...long time since I've asked a question here, but I find
myself needing help again.

I am working on a db for a payroll dept. One of the things I need to do
for them is to keep a running total for time off. Basically each
employee will have a record in a table with fields for vacation,
personal, sick, etc., and I need to do two things with these numbers.
I
need to add to these totals at the beginning of each years, as they earn
more time. And, I need to subtract from these totals as they use their
time. So, when a payroll clerk enters a value of 7 hrs vacation for an
employee on a given day, I need to subtract seven from their total
vacation hours.

Both of these will be done via code, at the time of the change, but I
have never done this before. I would appreciate any direction you could
offer.

Thank you


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From cfoust at infostatsystems.com  Wed Jun 29 09:46:47 2005
From: cfoust at infostatsystems.com (Charlotte Foust)
Date: Wed, 29 Jun 2005 07:46:47 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Fastest Way To Get Data Field From Recordset
Message-ID: <E61FC1D4B1918244905B113C680BEA86873AD9@infoserver01.infostat.local>

The first option  is the slowest way.

Charlotte Foust


-----Original Message-----
From: paul.hartland at fsmail.net [mailto:paul.hartland at fsmail.net] 
Sent: Wednesday, June 29, 2005 7:37 AM
To: accessd
Subject: [AccessD] Fastest Way To Get Data Field From Recordset


To all,

I have taken over a project and where I would normally use something
like

strMinPayroll = rsMinPayroll.Fields("LowPayrollNo")

it is written as

strMinPayroll = rsMinPayroll!LowPayroll

Is there a difference in speed with these, i.e. is one more efficient
than the other etc....

Thanks in advance for any help on this...

Paul Hartland

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From dwaters at usinternet.com  Wed Jun 29 09:47:16 2005
From: dwaters at usinternet.com (Dan Waters)
Date: Wed, 29 Jun 2005 07:47:16 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Can I spell check an unbound field?
In-Reply-To: <10044712.1119996830027.JavaMail.root@sniper14>
Message-ID: <000001c57cb9$725cde50$0718820a@danwaters>

Lonnie, 

Charlotte's code is what I was going to suggest.

Dan Waters


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Dan Waters
Sent: Tuesday, June 28, 2005 3:11 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Can I spell check an unbound field?

Lonnie,

Yes!  But I'll have to get back to you in a few hours.

Dan Waters

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Lonnie Johnson
Sent: Tuesday, June 28, 2005 2:38 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: [AccessD] Can I spell check an unbound field?

I think the answer is no, but there is always a guru with a hack.
 
I have a form that is unbound. I have a large memo field and I would like to
spellcheck that memo field before appending it to the actual recordset that
it will go to.
 
Can it be done?



May God bless you beyond your imagination!
Lonnie Johnson
ProDev, Professional Development of MS Access Databases
Visit me at ==> http://www.prodev.us





 





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From Chris.Foote at uk.thalesgroup.com  Wed Jun 29 09:50:49 2005
From: Chris.Foote at uk.thalesgroup.com (Foote, Chris)
Date: Wed, 29 Jun 2005 15:50:49 +0100
Subject: [AccessD] Fastest Way To Get Data Field From Recordset
Message-ID: <97CF276BD8C6D4119C4B00508BB18DE709E0C7F7@ntscxch1.int.rdel.co.uk>


But it presumably will not die if someone has (cough) used a space in the
name Charlotte?

Regards
Chris Foote - UK


> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Charlotte
> Foust
> Sent: Wednesday, June 29, 2005 3:47 PM
> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> Subject: RE: [AccessD] Fastest Way To Get Data Field From Recordset
> 
> 
> The first option  is the slowest way.
> 
> Charlotte Foust
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: paul.hartland at fsmail.net [mailto:paul.hartland at fsmail.net] 
> Sent: Wednesday, June 29, 2005 7:37 AM
> To: accessd
> Subject: [AccessD] Fastest Way To Get Data Field From Recordset
> 
> 
> To all,
> 
> I have taken over a project and where I would normally use something
> like
> 
> strMinPayroll = rsMinPayroll.Fields("LowPayrollNo")
> 
> it is written as
> 
> strMinPayroll = rsMinPayroll!LowPayroll
> 
> Is there a difference in speed with these, i.e. is one more efficient
> than the other etc....
> 
> Thanks in advance for any help on this...
> 
> Paul Hartland


From paul.hartland at fsmail.net  Wed Jun 29 09:55:37 2005
From: paul.hartland at fsmail.net (paul.hartland at fsmail.net)
Date: Wed, 29 Jun 2005 16:55:37 +0200 (CEST)
Subject: [AccessD] Fastest Way To Get Data Field From Recordset
Message-ID: <5968352.1120056937594.JavaMail.www@wwinf3002>

I think you get round that by using the square brakcets rsMinPayroll![LowPayroll]





Message date : Jun 29 2005, 03:53 PM
>From : "Foote, Chris" 
To : "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'" 
Copy to : 
Subject : RE: [AccessD] Fastest Way To Get Data Field From Recordset

But it presumably will not die if someone has (cough) used a space in the
name Charlotte?

Regards
Chris Foote - UK


> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Charlotte
> Foust
> Sent: Wednesday, June 29, 2005 3:47 PM
> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> Subject: RE: [AccessD] Fastest Way To Get Data Field From Recordset
> 
> 
> The first option is the slowest way.
> 
> Charlotte Foust
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: paul.hartland at fsmail.net [mailto:paul.hartland at fsmail.net] 
> Sent: Wednesday, June 29, 2005 7:37 AM
> To: accessd
> Subject: [AccessD] Fastest Way To Get Data Field From Recordset
> 
> 
> To all,
> 
> I have taken over a project and where I would normally use something
> like
> 
> strMinPayroll = rsMinPayroll.Fields("LowPayrollNo")
> 
> it is written as
> 
> strMinPayroll = rsMinPayroll!LowPayroll
> 
> Is there a difference in speed with these, i.e. is one more efficient
> than the other etc....
> 
> Thanks in advance for any help on this...
> 
> Paul Hartland
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From rl_stewart at highstream.net  Wed Jun 29 09:58:43 2005
From: rl_stewart at highstream.net (Robert L. Stewart)
Date: Wed, 29 Jun 2005 09:58:43 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Re: Normalizing issue
In-Reply-To: <200506281700.j5SH0ER29043@databaseadvisors.com>
References: <200506281700.j5SH0ER29043@databaseadvisors.com>
Message-ID: <6.2.1.2.2.20050629095814.03357d20@pop3.highstream.net>

I thought that was what I said. :-)

At 12:00 PM 6/28/2005, you wrote:
>Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2005 16:35:57 -0400
>From: "Susan Harkins" <ssharkins at bellsouth.net>
>Subject: RE: [AccessD] Re: Normalizing issue
>To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'"
>         <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
>Message-ID: <20050627203557.KNJH29052.ibm68aec.bellsouth.net at SUSANONE>
>Content-Type: text/plain;       charset="US-ASCII"
>
>I think I've decided on a simple "people" table -- with a mtm related table
>that describes their role in any publication. Seems to make the most sense
>at this point.
>
>Susan H.
>
>Or, you could add a table for related parties and carry their role in that
>table.  Then you can get all the co-authors and illustrators, reviewers,
>etc.
>
>tblPublicationRelatedParty
>PublicationRelatedPartyID
>PublicationID
>PartyID
>RoleID




From rl_stewart at highstream.net  Wed Jun 29 09:59:49 2005
From: rl_stewart at highstream.net (Robert L. Stewart)
Date: Wed, 29 Jun 2005 09:59:49 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Re: MS Reporting Services
In-Reply-To: <200506281700.j5SH0ER29043@databaseadvisors.com>
References: <200506281700.j5SH0ER29043@databaseadvisors.com>
Message-ID: <6.2.1.2.2.20050629095902.03357a90@pop3.highstream.net>

Joe,

It is an addition onto SQL Server. You need to use .Net to be able to take 
advantage of it.

Robert

At 12:00 PM 6/28/2005, you wrote:
>Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2005 16:45:11 -0700
>From: "Joe Hecht" <jmhecht at earthlink.net>
>Subject: [AccessD] MS Reporting Services
>To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'"
>         <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
>Message-ID: <000901c57b72$42bdf280$6401a8c0 at laptop1>
>Content-Type: text/plain;       charset="us-ascii"
>
>I am sending resumes again. Some one is asking for MS Reporting services.
>
>What is it ?
>
>Joe Hecht




From DWUTKA at marlow.com  Wed Jun 29 10:00:52 2005
From: DWUTKA at marlow.com (DWUTKA at marlow.com)
Date: Wed, 29 Jun 2005 10:00:52 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Changing table values via code
Message-ID: <123701F54509D9119A4F00D0B747349016D7C2@main2.marlow.com>

Just a thought John, but I would recommend that you don't actually change a
value in a record to do this.  Instead, make it a transaction table.  For
example:

tblVacationHours
VHTransactionID (AutoNumber)
EmployeeID (foriegn key)
NumberOfHours (Long, or Currency if there could be hour 'portions')
TransactionTimeStamp (Date/Time)

Now, you could add a third field that would determine the type of
transaction, ie, a credit or a debit, or you could simply use positive or
negative values for the NumberOfHours fields.  Either way, to determine the
employees total current number of vacation hours, simply sum NumberOfHours
for their Employee ID.  I would strongly recommend this method, because if
you simply allow someone to change a value, there is no record of what was
changed.  So if a payroll clerk goofs and removes an extra day or two, there
is no record to see what it was before, and when it was changed.  With a
transaction log (which is summed for the totals), you can see what was
entered, and when, so when someone took a Monday off, and the transaction
shows 80 hours, instead of 8, you can simply fix that transaction, or add
new transactions to compensate.

Drew

-----Original Message-----
From: John Clark [mailto:John.Clark at niagaracounty.com]
Sent: Wednesday, June 29, 2005 8:35 AM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [AccessD] Changing table values via code


Hi everybody...long time since I've asked a question here, but I find
myself needing help again.

I am working on a db for a payroll dept. One of the things I need to do
for them is to keep a running total for time off. Basically each
employee will have a record in a table with fields for vacation,
personal, sick, etc., and I need to do two things with these numbers. I
need to add to these totals at the beginning of each years, as they earn
more time. And, I need to subtract from these totals as they use their
time. So, when a payroll clerk enters a value of 7 hrs vacation for an
employee on a given day, I need to subtract seven from their total
vacation hours.

Both of these will be done via code, at the time of the change, but I
have never done this before. I would appreciate any direction you could
offer.

Thank you


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From john at winhaven.net  Wed Jun 29 10:13:22 2005
From: john at winhaven.net (John Bartow)
Date: Wed, 29 Jun 2005 10:13:22 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Publish it with  MS Word
Message-ID: <200506291513.j5TFDPlw301022@pimout4-ext.prodigy.net>

I need a quick one here...
 
I have to add a command button to an old A97 app that will output a report
right into to Word (rtf).
 
I can't find my code snippet for doing the "Publish it with MS Word" in VBA.
 
Anyone have it handy?
 
TIA
John B.
 



From artful at rogers.com  Wed Jun 29 10:27:36 2005
From: artful at rogers.com (Arthur Fuller)
Date: Wed, 29 Jun 2005 11:27:36 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] MS Reporting Services
In-Reply-To: <000901c57b72$42bdf280$6401a8c0@laptop1>
Message-ID: <200506291527.j5TFRcR03483@databaseadvisors.com>

You can download it from MS. Think of it as an Object-Oriented report writer
designed for use with the DotNET stuff (and others). It is seriously
powerful and a long way past the Access report tool, IMO. But report writers
are in a sense pretty much all the same, especially at the lower levels.
Where they begin to differ, and shine, is in the difficult stuff. You should
grab a copy from MS and take it for a spin. From your previous posts I am
confident that MS-RS will take you about a day to master.

A.



-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Joe Hecht
Sent: June 27, 2005 7:45 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] MS Reporting Services

I am sending resumes again. Some one is asking for MS Reporting services.
 
What is it ?
 
Joe Hecht
Los Angeles CA
 
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From cfoust at infostatsystems.com  Wed Jun 29 10:36:29 2005
From: cfoust at infostatsystems.com (Charlotte Foust)
Date: Wed, 29 Jun 2005 08:36:29 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Fastest Way To Get Data Field From Recordset
Message-ID: <E61FC1D4B1918244905B113C680BEA86873ADC@infoserver01.infostat.local>

If they do, they should be Colbyized! <g>

Charlotte Foust


-----Original Message-----
From: Foote, Chris [mailto:Chris.Foote at uk.thalesgroup.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, June 29, 2005 7:51 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Fastest Way To Get Data Field From Recordset



But it presumably will not die if someone has (cough) used a space in
the name Charlotte?

Regards
Chris Foote - UK


> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Charlotte 
> Foust
> Sent: Wednesday, June 29, 2005 3:47 PM
> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> Subject: RE: [AccessD] Fastest Way To Get Data Field From Recordset
> 
> 
> The first option  is the slowest way.
> 
> Charlotte Foust
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: paul.hartland at fsmail.net [mailto:paul.hartland at fsmail.net]
> Sent: Wednesday, June 29, 2005 7:37 AM
> To: accessd
> Subject: [AccessD] Fastest Way To Get Data Field From Recordset
> 
> 
> To all,
> 
> I have taken over a project and where I would normally use something 
> like
> 
> strMinPayroll = rsMinPayroll.Fields("LowPayrollNo")
> 
> it is written as
> 
> strMinPayroll = rsMinPayroll!LowPayroll
> 
> Is there a difference in speed with these, i.e. is one more efficient 
> than the other etc....
> 
> Thanks in advance for any help on this...
> 
> Paul Hartland
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From artful at rogers.com  Wed Jun 29 10:41:49 2005
From: artful at rogers.com (Arthur Fuller)
Date: Wed, 29 Jun 2005 11:41:49 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Can I spell check an unbound field?
In-Reply-To: <E61FC1D4B1918244905B113C680BEA86873AD8@infoserver01.infostat.local>
Message-ID: <200506291541.j5TFfiR06762@databaseadvisors.com>

You a slick chick, Charlotte! Very nice!

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Charlotte Foust
Sent: June 28, 2005 7:13 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Can I spell check an unbound field?

Public Function SpellCheckField(ctl As Control)
  'created by Charlotte Foust 3/27/2000
  'runs default spell checker on the control
  'passed into the function
  On Error Resume Next
  ctl.SelStart = 0
  ctl.SelLength = Len(ctl)
  DoCmd.RunCommand acCmdSpelling
End Function 'SpellCheckField(ctl As Control)

Charlotte Foust


-----Original Message-----
From: Lonnie Johnson [mailto:prodevmg at yahoo.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, June 28, 2005 2:38 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: [AccessD] Can I spell check an unbound field?


I think the answer is no, but there is always a guru with a hack.
 
I have a form that is unbound. I have a large memo field and I would
like to spellcheck that memo field before appending it to the actual
recordset that it will go to.
 
Can it be done?



May God bless you beyond your imagination!
Lonnie Johnson
ProDev, Professional Development of MS Access Databases
Visit me at ==> http://www.prodev.us





 





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From cfoust at infostatsystems.com  Wed Jun 29 10:44:55 2005
From: cfoust at infostatsystems.com (Charlotte Foust)
Date: Wed, 29 Jun 2005 08:44:55 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Publish it with  MS Word
Message-ID: <E61FC1D4B1918244905B113C680BEA86873ADD@infoserver01.infostat.local>

>From the Help file:

The following example outputs the Employees table in rich-text format
(.rtf) to the Employee.rtf file and immediately opens the file in
Microsoft Word for Windows.

DoCmd.OutputTo acOutputTable, "Employees", _
    acFormatRTF, "Employee.rtf", True


Charlotte Foust


-----Original Message-----
From: John Bartow [mailto:john at winhaven.net] 
Sent: Wednesday, June 29, 2005 8:13 AM
To: _DBA-Access
Subject: [AccessD] Publish it with MS Word


I need a quick one here...
 
I have to add a command button to an old A97 app that will output a
report right into to Word (rtf).
 
I can't find my code snippet for doing the "Publish it with MS Word" in
VBA.
 
Anyone have it handy?
 
TIA
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From cfoust at infostatsystems.com  Wed Jun 29 11:45:18 2005
From: cfoust at infostatsystems.com (Charlotte Foust)
Date: Wed, 29 Jun 2005 09:45:18 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Can I spell check an unbound field?
Message-ID: <E61FC1D4B1918244905B113C680BEA86873ADF@infoserver01.infostat.local>

<blush>

Charlotte Foust


-----Original Message-----
From: Arthur Fuller [mailto:artful at rogers.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, June 29, 2005 8:42 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Can I spell check an unbound field?


You a slick chick, Charlotte! Very nice!

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Charlotte
Foust
Sent: June 28, 2005 7:13 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Can I spell check an unbound field?

Public Function SpellCheckField(ctl As Control)
  'created by Charlotte Foust 3/27/2000
  'runs default spell checker on the control
  'passed into the function
  On Error Resume Next
  ctl.SelStart = 0
  ctl.SelLength = Len(ctl)
  DoCmd.RunCommand acCmdSpelling
End Function 'SpellCheckField(ctl As Control)

Charlotte Foust


-----Original Message-----
From: Lonnie Johnson [mailto:prodevmg at yahoo.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, June 28, 2005 2:38 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: [AccessD] Can I spell check an unbound field?


I think the answer is no, but there is always a guru with a hack.
 
I have a form that is unbound. I have a large memo field and I would
like to spellcheck that memo field before appending it to the actual
recordset that it will go to.
 
Can it be done?



May God bless you beyond your imagination!
Lonnie Johnson
ProDev, Professional Development of MS Access Databases
Visit me at ==> http://www.prodev.us





 





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From jmhecht at earthlink.net  Wed Jun 29 12:02:31 2005
From: jmhecht at earthlink.net (Joe Hecht)
Date: Wed, 29 Jun 2005 10:02:31 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Can I spell check an unbound field?
In-Reply-To: <200506291541.j5TFfiR06762@databaseadvisors.com>
Message-ID: <000001c57ccc$56bff340$6401a8c0@laptop1>

Second


Joe Hecht
Los Angeles CA

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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Arthur Fuller
Sent: Wednesday, June 29, 2005 8:42 AM
To: access at joe2.endjunk.com; 'Access Developers discussion and problem
solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Can I spell check an unbound field?

You a slick chick, Charlotte! Very nice!

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Charlotte Foust
Sent: June 28, 2005 7:13 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Can I spell check an unbound field?

Public Function SpellCheckField(ctl As Control)
  'created by Charlotte Foust 3/27/2000
  'runs default spell checker on the control
  'passed into the function
  On Error Resume Next
  ctl.SelStart = 0
  ctl.SelLength = Len(ctl)
  DoCmd.RunCommand acCmdSpelling
End Function 'SpellCheckField(ctl As Control)

Charlotte Foust


-----Original Message-----
From: Lonnie Johnson [mailto:prodevmg at yahoo.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, June 28, 2005 2:38 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: [AccessD] Can I spell check an unbound field?


I think the answer is no, but there is always a guru with a hack.
 
I have a form that is unbound. I have a large memo field and I would
like to spellcheck that memo field before appending it to the actual
recordset that it will go to.
 
Can it be done?



May God bless you beyond your imagination!
Lonnie Johnson
ProDev, Professional Development of MS Access Databases
Visit me at ==> http://www.prodev.us





 





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From Lambert.Heenan at AIG.com  Wed Jun 29 12:21:16 2005
From: Lambert.Heenan at AIG.com (Heenan, Lambert)
Date: Wed, 29 Jun 2005 13:21:16 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Fastest Way To Get Data Field From Recordset
Message-ID: <1D7828CDB8350747AFE9D69E0E90DA1F1223BE60@xlivmbx21.aig.com>

How slow is slow?

There are at least three ways to access a field in a recordset via VB.

Rs!FieldName
Rs.Fields("FieldName")  and
Rs("FieldName")

Each of these in turn has two variations. You can use
	Rs.this
	Rs.that
	Rs.thenextthing

Or you can write 
	With Rs
		.this
		.that
		.thenextthing
	End With

The use of With / End With used to be recommended by MS as when you
referenced the Rs object Access would apparently refresh its collections,
including the collection of recordsets, and this slowed execution. Using
with/end with cuts the number of references to Rs down to one. It also
reduces the amount of typing that has to be done.

However. I just did some testing in Access 2002, and is seems the alleged
speed benefit of with/end with does not happen. Perhaps the whole collection
refresh issue has been fixed now. Which leaves us with the question of which
syntax *is* faster?  I ran some tests and the results suggest that it does
not make any damned difference. See below...

The code that produces these results simply opens a recordset and then
accesses each record in turn, pulling the value of one field from each
record.

NOT using With Rs
-----------------
1/ Using Rs.Fields('FieldName')
Time to access 683200 records: 4.414063 Seconds
-----------------
2/ Using Rs!FieldName
Time to access 683200 records: 4.4375 Seconds
-----------------
3/ Using With and .Fields('FieldName')
Time to access 683200 records: 4.347656 Seconds
-----------------
4/ Using With and rs('FieldName')
Time to access 683200 records: 4.425781 Seconds
-----------------
5/ Using With and rs!FieldName
Time to access 683200 records: 4.34375 Seconds

So when looping through 680k records it seems like only a few milliseconds
are available to be gained. If you only want to look at one record in a
piece of code then we are approaching quibbling over nanoseconds.

Lambert

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Charlotte Foust
Sent: Wednesday, June 29, 2005 10:47 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Fastest Way To Get Data Field From Recordset


The first option  is the slowest way.

Charlotte Foust


-----Original Message-----
From: paul.hartland at fsmail.net [mailto:paul.hartland at fsmail.net] 
Sent: Wednesday, June 29, 2005 7:37 AM
To: accessd
Subject: [AccessD] Fastest Way To Get Data Field From Recordset


To all,

I have taken over a project and where I would normally use something like

strMinPayroll = rsMinPayroll.Fields("LowPayrollNo")

it is written as

strMinPayroll = rsMinPayroll!LowPayroll

Is there a difference in speed with these, i.e. is one more efficient than
the other etc....

Thanks in advance for any help on this...

Paul Hartland

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From john at winhaven.net  Wed Jun 29 14:53:24 2005
From: john at winhaven.net (John Bartow)
Date: Wed, 29 Jun 2005 14:53:24 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Publish it with  MS Word
In-Reply-To: <E61FC1D4B1918244905B113C680BEA86873ADD@infoserver01.infostat.local>
Message-ID: <200506291953.j5TJrSGY138252@pimout1-ext.prodigy.net>

Thanks Charlotte,

That got me where I needed to go. I'm really rushed right now and even with
the good 'ol A97 help it doesn't work well when you're under extreme
pressure!

John B. 

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Charlotte Foust
Sent: Wednesday, June 29, 2005 10:45 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Publish it with MS Word

>From the Help file:

The following example outputs the Employees table in rich-text format
(.rtf) to the Employee.rtf file and immediately opens the file in Microsoft
Word for Windows.

DoCmd.OutputTo acOutputTable, "Employees", _
    acFormatRTF, "Employee.rtf", True


Charlotte Foust


-----Original Message-----
From: John Bartow [mailto:john at winhaven.net]
Sent: Wednesday, June 29, 2005 8:13 AM
To: _DBA-Access
Subject: [AccessD] Publish it with MS Word


I need a quick one here...
 
I have to add a command button to an old A97 app that will output a
report right into to Word (rtf).
 
I can't find my code snippet for doing the "Publish it with MS Word" in
VBA.
 
Anyone have it handy?
 
TIA
John B.
 

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From Jim.Hale at FleetPride.com  Wed Jun 29 14:58:58 2005
From: Jim.Hale at FleetPride.com (Hale, Jim)
Date: Wed, 29 Jun 2005 14:58:58 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Storing variable names in a table
Message-ID: <6A6AA9DF57E4F046BDA1E273BDDB67723376AA@corp-es01.fleetpride.com>

In a class I have created a method that reads query names from a table and
opens the appropriate record sets. There may be any number of queries that
are run by a single method call. For parameter queries life is more
complicated. I created a method which loads the variables into a ParmArray
and then sets the query parameters to the correct variable. The problem with
this is I can only run one parameter query at a time from my method. a
typical call looks like:

'set parameter values
 Call Xcel.QryParmValues(strareacode, intCo, "AreaActSummaryACT", "dept1",
.Worksheets(y).Range("a11"))
' read query names from table and open the recorsets.
    Xcel.MultiplePasteExcel (119)

119 is the case number so the method knows which the query names to pull
from a table. Ideally I would like to store all the parameters for all the
queries in a table and extract them as needed.  "AreaActSummaryACT", and
"dept1" are no problem since they are strings. What I don't know how to do
is store variable names such as strareacode, intCo as strings in a table and
then assign them the correct value from the procedure all this is running
in. Worksheets(y).Range("a11")) will also be a challenge to store in a table
(it picks up the parameter value from an Excel worksheet) but I may be able
use eval() to create the correct value. If I can solve these problems I will
be able to populate Excel workbooks with one method call since all the info
needed to create recordsets with data to paste into worksheets will reside
in a table. If I can't store the variable names in a table I quess I could
expand the QryParmValues method to handle a multi dimensional array  but I
am not at all sure how to do this either. Any help will be appreciated.

Jim Hale



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From mmattys at rochester.rr.com  Wed Jun 29 15:28:23 2005
From: mmattys at rochester.rr.com (Michael R Mattys)
Date: Wed, 29 Jun 2005 16:28:23 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] invalid number of arguments
References: <005a01c57cda$2eeebdc0$fac581d5@pedro>
Message-ID: <016f01c57ce9$1a535420$0202a8c0@default>

Pedro,

I'm really sorry, I didn't see your message.
See below for what I was thinking about.
It isn't tested, of course, but I think it will do

Michael R. Mattys
Mattys MapLib for Microsoft MapPoint
http://www.mattysconsulting.com


> explain the issue with the append query.
> When there are new values in the commercial database, 
> how does the append query [know] which items are new 
> to append to the tblDebiteur.

Commercial DB
> DEBSTM
> Nummer        = Text  (but al Id's are numbers)    =  Primary Key
> Adres
> Plaats

In your autoexec, run this query:

qryPedro1
INSERT INTO tblDEBITEUR (DebID, Postadres, Woonplaats)
SELECT Clng(Nummer) As DebID, Adres As PostAdres,
Plaats As Woonplaats FROM DEBSTM WHERE IN DEBSTM.DebID
NOT IN (SELECT tblDEBITEUR.DebID FROM tblDEBITEUR) IN
'C:\Wife.mdb'

Your Wife's DB
> tblDEBITEUR
Add AutoNumber Field Here - It has no meaning, it is an index
> DebID         = Number   (Long Integer)
> Postadres
> Woonplaats



From mmattys at rochester.rr.com  Wed Jun 29 15:38:02 2005
From: mmattys at rochester.rr.com (Michael R Mattys)
Date: Wed, 29 Jun 2005 16:38:02 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] invalid number of arguments
References: <005a01c57cda$2eeebdc0$fac581d5@pedro>
	<016f01c57ce9$1a535420$0202a8c0@default>
Message-ID: <019601c57cea$73c29290$0202a8c0@default>

Make that

qryPedro1
INSERT INTO tblDEBITEUR (DebID, Postadres, Woonplaats)
SELECT Clng(Nummer) As DebID, Adres As PostAdres,
Plaats As Woonplaats FROM DEBSTM WHERE DEBSTM.DebID
NOT IN (SELECT tblDEBITEUR.DebID FROM tblDEBITEUR)
IN 'C:\Wife.mdb'


(Note : IN 'C:\Wife.mdb' is either at the end
or after DEBSTM, I can't test it at the moment)

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To: "AccessD" <AccessD at databaseadvisors.com>; "Pedro Janssen"
<pedro at plex.nl>
Sent: Wednesday, June 29, 2005 4:28 PM
Subject: Re: [AccessD] invalid number of arguments


> Pedro,
>
> I'm really sorry, I didn't see your message.
> See below for what I was thinking about.
> It isn't tested, of course, but I think it will do
>
> Michael R. Mattys
> Mattys MapLib for Microsoft MapPoint
> http://www.mattysconsulting.com
>
>
> > explain the issue with the append query.
> > When there are new values in the commercial database,
> > how does the append query [know] which items are new
> > to append to the tblDebiteur.
>
> Commercial DB
> > DEBSTM
> > Nummer        = Text  (but al Id's are numbers)    =  Primary Key
> > Adres
> > Plaats
>
> In your autoexec, run this query:
>
> qryPedro1
> INSERT INTO tblDEBITEUR (DebID, Postadres, Woonplaats)
> SELECT Clng(Nummer) As DebID, Adres As PostAdres,
> Plaats As Woonplaats FROM DEBSTM WHERE IN DEBSTM.DebID
> NOT IN (SELECT tblDEBITEUR.DebID FROM tblDEBITEUR) IN
> 'C:\Wife.mdb'
>
> Your Wife's DB
> > tblDEBITEUR
> Add AutoNumber Field Here - It has no meaning, it is an index
> > DebID         = Number   (Long Integer)
> > Postadres
> > Woonplaats
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From jmhecht at earthlink.net  Wed Jun 29 16:38:40 2005
From: jmhecht at earthlink.net (Joe Hecht)
Date: Wed, 29 Jun 2005 14:38:40 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Re: MS Reporting Services
In-Reply-To: <6.2.1.2.2.20050629095902.03357a90@pop3.highstream.net>
Message-ID: <001701c57cf2$eaa88650$6401a8c0@laptop1>

Thanks.

Not running that yet.

Joe Hecht
Los Angeles CA

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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Robert L. Stewart
Sent: Wednesday, June 29, 2005 8:00 AM
To: access at joe2.endjunk.com; accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [AccessD] Re: MS Reporting Services

Joe,

It is an addition onto SQL Server. You need to use .Net to be able to take 
advantage of it.

Robert

At 12:00 PM 6/28/2005, you wrote:
>Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2005 16:45:11 -0700
>From: "Joe Hecht" <jmhecht at earthlink.net>
>Subject: [AccessD] MS Reporting Services
>To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'"
>         <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
>Message-ID: <000901c57b72$42bdf280$6401a8c0 at laptop1>
>Content-Type: text/plain;       charset="us-ascii"
>
>I am sending resumes again. Some one is asking for MS Reporting services.
>
>What is it ?
>
>Joe Hecht


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From clh at christopherhawkins.com  Wed Jun 29 18:39:47 2005
From: clh at christopherhawkins.com (Christopher Hawkins)
Date: Wed, 29 Jun 2005 17:39:47 -0600
Subject: [AccessD] Using Outlook Redemption in Access
Message-ID: <bb1e11728f4142959f8ba65abcb4c497@christopherhawkins.com>



If you've ever made an Access app that sends eMail, you might be familiar with Outlook Redemption (http://www.dimastr.com/redemption/).? It is a set of COM components that allow you to bypass that messy Outlook dialog that reads "A program is trying to automatically send e-mail on your behalf.? Do you want to allow this?" blah blah blah.

I just downloaded Redemption and am unab;e to get it to work.? I'm hoping that someone who has successfully implemented it can help me here.

I am using code straight from the Redemption site (http://www.dimastr.com/redemption/objects.htm):

[CODE]
Private Sub Blah()
Dim SafeItem, oItem  

??? Set SafeItem = CreateObject("Redemption.SafeMailItem") 'Create an instance of Redemption.SafeMailItem
??? Set oItem = Application.CreateItem(0) 'Create a new message
??? 
??? SafeItem.Item = oItem 'set Item property
??? SafeItem.Recipients.Add "clh at christopherhawkins.com"
??? SafeItem.Recipients.ResolveAll
??? SafeItem.Subject = "Testing Redemption"
??? SafeItem.Send
End Sub
[/CODE]

This code is triggered form a button click on a form.

When I run the code, I get an error message:

"Method or data member not found"

The error is on the .CreateItem method in the line that sets oItem to a new item.

I've double-checked that the Redemption dll?is registered, and I've made sure it is referenced in the Access file.? I suspect that there is some simple aspect of setup that I'm overlooking.

Anybody ever have this same issue?

-C- 


From clh at christopherhawkins.com  Wed Jun 29 18:42:55 2005
From: clh at christopherhawkins.com (Christopher Hawkins)
Date: Wed, 29 Jun 2005 17:42:55 -0600
Subject: [AccessD] re: Using Outlook Redemption in Access
Message-ID: <5007e616e6894aabbf76899919734f9a@christopherhawkins.com>



Wait, I sent the wrong code snippet.? here is the one I am using:

[code]
Private Sub Blah()
Dim SafeItem, oItem  

??? Set Application = CreateObject("Outlook.Application")
??? Set Namespace = Application.GetNamespace("MAPI")
??? Namespace.Logon  

??? Set SafeItem = CreateObject("Redemption.SafeMailItem") 'Create an instance of Redemption.SafeMailItem
??? Set oItem = Application.CreateItem(0) 'Create a new message
??? 
??? SafeItem.Item = oItem 'set Item property
??? SafeItem.Recipients.Add "clh at christopherhawkins.com"
??? SafeItem.Recipients.ResolveAll
??? SafeItem.Subject = "Testing Redemption"
??? SafeItem.Send
End Sub
[/code]

Alright, NOW you can tell me what you think.? :)

-C-

----------------------------------------

From: "Christopher Hawkins" <clh at christopherhawkins.com>
Sent: Wednesday, June 29, 2005 5:39 PM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: Using Outlook Redemption in Access 

If you've ever made an Access app that sends eMail, you might be familiar with Outlook Redemption (http://www.dimastr.com/redemption/).? It is a set of COM components that allow you to bypass that messy Outlook dialog that reads "A program is trying to automatically send e-mail on your behalf.? Do you want to allow this?" blah blah blah.

I just downloaded Redemption and am unab;e to get it to work.? I'm hoping that someone who has successfully implemented it can help me here.

I am using code straight from the Redemption site (http://www.dimastr.com/redemption/objects.htm):

[CODE]
Private Sub Blah()
Dim SafeItem, oItem  

??? Set SafeItem = CreateObject("Redemption.SafeMailItem") 'Create an instance of Redemption.SafeMailItem
??? Set oItem = Application.CreateItem(0) 'Create a new message
??? 
??? SafeItem.Item = oItem 'set Item property
??? SafeItem.Recipients.Add "clh at christopherhawkins.com"
??? SafeItem.Recipients.ResolveAll
??? SafeItem.Subject = "Testing Redemption"
??? SafeItem.Send
End Sub
[/CODE]

This code is triggered form a button click on a form.

When I run the code, I get an error message:

"Method or data member not found"

The error is on the .CreateItem method in the line that sets oItem to a new item.

I've double-checked that the Redemption dll?is registered, and I've made sure it is referenced in the Access file.? I suspect that there is some simple aspect of setup that I'm overlooking.

Anybody ever have this same issue?

-C- 



From cfoust at infostatsystems.com  Wed Jun 29 19:11:28 2005
From: cfoust at infostatsystems.com (Charlotte Foust)
Date: Wed, 29 Jun 2005 17:11:28 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] re: Using Outlook Redemption in Access
Message-ID: <E61FC1D4B1918244905B113C680BEA8689A50A@infoserver01.infostat.local>

Well, I DID wonder! LOL

What exactly are you trying to do with the Application.CreateItem line?   The SafeItem object has a text property for the message body.  And do you have CDO enabled in Outlook?  You need it for early binding a MAPI session.  Then you can do something like this:

Dim objMAPI as MAPI.Session
Dim objMessage as MAPI.Message
Dim objRecipient as MAPI.Recipient

Then down the line, you can do:

SafeItem.Item = objMessage
SafeItem.Text = "This is my message"


Charlotte Foust


-----Original Message-----
From: Christopher Hawkins [mailto:clh at christopherhawkins.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, June 29, 2005 4:43 PM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [AccessD] re: Using Outlook Redemption in Access




Wait, I sent the wrong code snippet.? here is the one I am using:

[code]
Private Sub Blah()
Dim SafeItem, oItem  

??? Set Application = CreateObject("Outlook.Application")
??? Set Namespace = Application.GetNamespace("MAPI")
??? Namespace.Logon  

??? Set SafeItem = CreateObject("Redemption.SafeMailItem") 'Create an instance of Redemption.SafeMailItem
??? Set oItem = Application.CreateItem(0) 'Create a new message
??? 
??? SafeItem.Item = oItem 'set Item property
??? SafeItem.Recipients.Add "clh at christopherhawkins.com"
??? SafeItem.Recipients.ResolveAll
??? SafeItem.Subject = "Testing Redemption"
??? SafeItem.Send
End Sub
[/code]

Alright, NOW you can tell me what you think.? :)

-C-

----------------------------------------

From: "Christopher Hawkins" <clh at christopherhawkins.com>
Sent: Wednesday, June 29, 2005 5:39 PM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: Using Outlook Redemption in Access 

If you've ever made an Access app that sends eMail, you might be familiar with Outlook Redemption (http://www.dimastr.com/redemption/).? It is a set of COM components that allow you to bypass that messy Outlook dialog that reads "A program is trying to automatically send e-mail on your behalf.? Do you want to allow this?" blah blah blah.

I just downloaded Redemption and am unab;e to get it to work.? I'm hoping that someone who has successfully implemented it can help me here.

I am using code straight from the Redemption site (http://www.dimastr.com/redemption/objects.htm):

[CODE]
Private Sub Blah()
Dim SafeItem, oItem  

??? Set SafeItem = CreateObject("Redemption.SafeMailItem") 'Create an instance of Redemption.SafeMailItem
??? Set oItem = Application.CreateItem(0) 'Create a new message
??? 
??? SafeItem.Item = oItem 'set Item property
??? SafeItem.Recipients.Add "clh at christopherhawkins.com"
??? SafeItem.Recipients.ResolveAll
??? SafeItem.Subject = "Testing Redemption"
??? SafeItem.Send
End Sub
[/CODE]

This code is triggered form a button click on a form.

When I run the code, I get an error message:

"Method or data member not found"

The error is on the .CreateItem method in the line that sets oItem to a new item.

I've double-checked that the Redemption dll?is registered, and I've made sure it is referenced in the Access file.? I suspect that there is some simple aspect of setup that I'm overlooking.

Anybody ever have this same issue?

-C- 

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From accessd666 at yahoo.com  Thu Jun 30 00:34:57 2005
From: accessd666 at yahoo.com (Sad Der)
Date: Wed, 29 Jun 2005 22:34:57 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [AccessD] Check date-time problem
Message-ID: <20050630053457.99403.qmail@web31610.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Hi group,

I've got an ini file with the following values:
[PauzeScheduling]
StartPauzeAt=21:00
EndPauzeAt=3:00

I've got a 'service' that checks if the Currenttime:
dtmCurrentTime = CDate(Format(Time(), "hh:mm"))

Is between these values. 

It worked fine. Settings used to be within a day.
Somebody has got to have dealt with this problem
before.
What is a (very) solid way to handle this problem?
Keep in mind that this is a long running schedule
(e.g. forever?!)

Thnx.
SD

Here's my code:

'=========================================================================================
' Function Name      :  PauzeScheduling
' Parameters         :  dtmCurrentTime => Current
Time' Return value       :  (Boolean) True:
CurrentTime between scheduled times
' Purpose            :  Check if current time is
within the scheduled times of the ini file
' Assumptions        :  ---
' Uses               :  ---
' Created            :  2005-Jun-03 08:55, SaDe
' Modifications      :
'=========================================================================================
Public Function PauzeScheduling(dtmCurrentTime As
Date) As Boolean
   Dim dtmStartPauze As Date
   Dim dtmEndPauze As Date
   
   On Error GoTo PauzeScheduling_Error
   
   dtmStartPauze =
CDate(Format(g_oGenSet.GetValue("PauzeScheduling",
"StartPauzeAt"), "HH:mm"))
   dtmEndPauze =
CDate(Format(g_oGenSet.GetValue("PauzeScheduling",
"EndPauzeAt"), "hh:mm"))
   
   
   If (dtmCurrentTime > dtmStartPauze) And
(dtmCurrentTime < dtmEndPauze) Then
      PauzeScheduling = True
   Else
      PauzeScheduling = False
   End If

PauzeScheduling_Exit:
   ' Collect your garbage here
   Exit Function
PauzeScheduling_Error:
   ' Collect your garbage here
   Call
g_oGenErr.Throw("PauzeScheduling.PauzeScheduling",
"PauzeScheduling")
End Function


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From accessd666 at yahoo.com  Thu Jun 30 00:46:32 2005
From: accessd666 at yahoo.com (Sad Der)
Date: Wed, 29 Jun 2005 22:46:32 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [AccessD] Storing variable names in a table
In-Reply-To: <6A6AA9DF57E4F046BDA1E273BDDB67723376AA@corp-es01.fleetpride.com>
Message-ID: <20050630054632.1760.qmail@web31610.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Jim,

I'm probably missing the big picture here but i'll
give it a try.
Suppose you have a table with the following fields:
Query (Text)
Parameter (Text)
ParameterType (Text)

It has the values:
Query Parameter                   ParameterType
A     strareacode                 String
A     intCo                       Integer
A     "AreaActSummaryACT"         String
A     "dept1"                     String
A     .Worksheets(y).Range("a11") Range

You could add all parameters and there types in an 
array
Something like this:
intCntr = Select count(*) from ParameterTable where
Query = "A"
dim avarParameter() as variant
redim avarparameter(1,intCntr)

So now you now how to convert the parameter types.

for lngArrayCntr = 0 to UBOUND(avarparameter)
 ConvertDataType(avarparameter(1,lngArrayCntr)
next lngArrayCntr

Did I mis it completely? :-)

HTH

SD
--- "Hale, Jim" <Jim.Hale at fleetpride.com> wrote:

> In a class I have created a method that reads query
> names from a table and
> opens the appropriate record sets. There may be any
> number of queries that
> are run by a single method call. For parameter
> queries life is more
> complicated. I created a method which loads the
> variables into a ParmArray
> and then sets the query parameters to the correct
> variable. The problem with
> this is I can only run one parameter query at a time
> from my method. a
> typical call looks like:
> 
> 'set parameter values
>  Call Xcel.QryParmValues(strareacode, intCo,
> "AreaActSummaryACT", "dept1",
> .Worksheets(y).Range("a11"))
> ' read query names from table and open the
> recorsets.
>     Xcel.MultiplePasteExcel (119)
> 
> 119 is the case number so the method knows which the
> query names to pull
> from a table. Ideally I would like to store all the
> parameters for all the
> queries in a table and extract them as needed. 
> "AreaActSummaryACT", and
> "dept1" are no problem since they are strings. What
> I don't know how to do
> is store variable names such as strareacode, intCo
> as strings in a table and
> then assign them the correct value from the
> procedure all this is running
> in. Worksheets(y).Range("a11")) will also be a
> challenge to store in a table
> (it picks up the parameter value from an Excel
> worksheet) but I may be able
> use eval() to create the correct value. If I can
> solve these problems I will
> be able to populate Excel workbooks with one method
> call since all the info
> needed to create recordsets with data to paste into
> worksheets will reside
> in a table. If I can't store the variable names in a
> table I quess I could
> expand the QryParmValues method to handle a multi
> dimensional array  but I
> am not at all sure how to do this either. Any help
> will be appreciated.
> 
> Jim Hale
> 
> 
> 
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From Chris.Foote at uk.thalesgroup.com  Thu Jun 30 00:54:42 2005
From: Chris.Foote at uk.thalesgroup.com (Foote, Chris)
Date: Thu, 30 Jun 2005 06:54:42 +0100
Subject: [AccessD] Fastest Way To Get Data Field From Recordset
Message-ID: <97CF276BD8C6D4119C4B00508BB18DE709E0C7F8@ntscxch1.int.rdel.co.uk>

Agreed! <bg>

Chris Foote - UK

> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Charlotte
> Foust
> Sent: Wednesday, June 29, 2005 4:36 PM
> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> Subject: RE: [AccessD] Fastest Way To Get Data Field From Recordset
> 
> 
> If they do, they should be Colbyized! <g>
> 
> Charlotte Foust
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Foote, Chris [mailto:Chris.Foote at uk.thalesgroup.com] 
> Sent: Wednesday, June 29, 2005 7:51 AM
> To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
> Subject: RE: [AccessD] Fastest Way To Get Data Field From Recordset
> 
> 
> 
> But it presumably will not die if someone has (cough) used a space in
> the name Charlotte?
> 
> Regards
> Chris Foote - UK


From JRojas at tnco-inc.com  Thu Jun 30 08:06:59 2005
From: JRojas at tnco-inc.com (Joe Rojas)
Date: Thu, 30 Jun 2005 09:06:59 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] re: Using Outlook Redemption in Access
Message-ID: <0CC84C9461AE6445AD5A602001C41C4B05A38E@mercury.tnco-inc.com>

Hello,

I do use Redemption but I use it for creating and assigning tasks.
The problem with your code is that "Application" is a reserved word in
Access. Access already has an object named Application.

I would rename your "Application" variable to something like OutApplication
and then try it.

JR


-----Original Message-----
From: Christopher Hawkins [mailto:clh at christopherhawkins.com]
Sent: Wednesday, June 29, 2005 7:43 PM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [AccessD] re: Using Outlook Redemption in Access


Wait, I sent the wrong code snippet.  here is the one I am using:

[code]
Private Sub Blah()
Dim SafeItem, oItem 

    Set Application = CreateObject("Outlook.Application")
    Set Namespace = Application.GetNamespace("MAPI")
    Namespace.Logon 

    Set SafeItem = CreateObject("Redemption.SafeMailItem") 'Create an
instance of Redemption.SafeMailItem
    Set oItem = Application.CreateItem(0) 'Create a new message
   
    SafeItem.Item = oItem 'set Item property
    SafeItem.Recipients.Add "clh at christopherhawkins.com"
    SafeItem.Recipients.ResolveAll
    SafeItem.Subject = "Testing Redemption"
    SafeItem.Send
End Sub
[/code]

Alright, NOW you can tell me what you think.  :)

-C-

----------------------------------------

From: "Christopher Hawkins" <clh at christopherhawkins.com>
Sent: Wednesday, June 29, 2005 5:39 PM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: Using Outlook Redemption in Access

If you've ever made an Access app that sends eMail, you might be familiar
with Outlook Redemption (http://www.dimastr.com/redemption/).  It is a set
of COM components that allow you to bypass that messy Outlook dialog that
reads "A program is trying to automatically send e-mail on your behalf.  Do
you want to allow this?" blah blah blah.

I just downloaded Redemption and am unab;e to get it to work.  I'm hoping
that someone who has successfully implemented it can help me here.

I am using code straight from the Redemption site
(http://www.dimastr.com/redemption/objects.htm):

[CODE]
Private Sub Blah()
Dim SafeItem, oItem 

    Set SafeItem = CreateObject("Redemption.SafeMailItem") 'Create an
instance of Redemption.SafeMailItem
    Set oItem = Application.CreateItem(0) 'Create a new message
   
    SafeItem.Item = oItem 'set Item property
    SafeItem.Recipients.Add "clh at christopherhawkins.com"
    SafeItem.Recipients.ResolveAll
    SafeItem.Subject = "Testing Redemption"
    SafeItem.Send
End Sub
[/CODE]

This code is triggered form a button click on a form.

When I run the code, I get an error message:

"Method or data member not found"

The error is on the .CreateItem method in the line that sets oItem to a new
item.

I've double-checked that the Redemption dll is registered, and I've made
sure it is referenced in the Access file.  I suspect that there is some
simple aspect of setup that I'm overlooking.

Anybody ever have this same issue?

-C-

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From bhjohnson at verizon.net  Thu Jun 30 10:05:10 2005
From: bhjohnson at verizon.net (Bruce H. Johnson)
Date: Thu, 30 Jun 2005 08:05:10 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Using Outlook Redemption in Access
In-Reply-To: <bb1e11728f4142959f8ba65abcb4c497@christopherhawkins.com>
Message-ID: <0IIW00G8KKK8O2F0@vms048.mailsrvcs.net>

Here's the code I use in VB. Note the Application is an Outlook Application:
Public Function EMail_SendMail() As Boolean
'Use late binding to avoid version refs?
'Requires only Recipient and Subject
Dim outApp As Object
Dim outNameSpace As Object
Dim redSafeItem As Object
Dim outItem As Object
Dim strItem As String
Dim lngNdx As Long
Dim outRec As Object

If SAFEOUTLOOK_RUNTIME Then On Error GoTo EMail_SendMail_Err
EMail_SendMail = False 'default
If strEMail_Recipient(0) = vbNullString Or strEMail_Subject = vbNullString
Then
   'Convert to messages when ready
   MsgBox "One recipient and subject required.", vbOKOnly Or vbExclamation,
"EMail_SendMail"
   EMail_SendMail = False
   GoTo EMail_SendMail_Exit
End If
Set outApp = CreateObject("Outlook.Application")
Set outNameSpace = outApp.GetNamespace("MAPI")
outNameSpace.Logon

Set redSafeItem = CreateObject("Redemption.SafeMailItem") 'Create an
instance of Redemption.SafeMailItem
Set outItem = outApp.CreateItem(0) 'Create a new Mail Item
redSafeItem.Item = outItem 'set Item property
'Add recipients
For lngNdx = 0 To UBound(strEMail_Recipient)
   strItem = Trim$(strEMail_Recipient(lngNdx))
   If Len(strItem) Then
      Set outRec = redSafeItem.Recipients.Add(strItem)
      outRec.Type = 1 'To
   Else
      Exit For
   End If
Next lngNdx
'redSafeItem.Recipients.ResolveAll
redSafeItem.Subject = strEMail_Subject
'Rest are optional
'CCs
For lngNdx = 0 To UBound(strEMail_CC)
   strItem = Trim$(strEMail_CC(lngNdx))
   If Len(strItem) Then
      Set outRec = redSafeItem.Recipients.Add(strItem)
      outRec.Type = 2 'CC
   Else
      Exit For
   End If
Next lngNdx
'redSafeItem.Recipients.ResolveAll
'BCC
For lngNdx = 0 To UBound(strEMail_BCC)
   strItem = Trim$(strEMail_BCC(lngNdx))
   If Len(strItem) Then
      Set outRec = redSafeItem.Recipients.Add(strItem)
      outRec.Type = 3 'BCC
   Else
      Exit For
   End If
Next lngNdx
redSafeItem.Recipients.ResolveAll
If Len(strEMail_Body) Then redSafeItem.Body = strEMail_Body
'Attachments
For lngNdx = 0 To UBound(strEMail_AttachmentFName)
   strItem = Trim$(strEMail_AttachmentFName(lngNdx))
   If Len(strItem) Then
      redSafeItem.Attachments.Add strItem, 1, CLng(Len(strEMail_Body) + 5)
'Embed by value, position
   Else
      Exit For
   End If
Next lngNdx
'If Len(strEMail_AttachmentFName) Then redSafeItem.Attachments.Add
strEMail_AttachmentFName
redSafeItem.Send 'puts in outbox or actually sends it
EMail_SendMail = True
Set outItem = Nothing
Set redSafeItem = Nothing
Set outNameSpace = Nothing
Set outApp = Nothing
GoTo EMail_SendMail_Exit

EMail_SendMail_Err:
MsgBox Err.Description, vbOKOnly Or vbExclamation, "EMail_SendMail"

EMail_SendMail_Exit:
'let objects fall out of reference
End Function 


Bruce H. Johnson
Sylmar, CA
-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Christopher
Hawkins
Sent: Wednesday, June 29, 2005 4:40 PM
RE: REDEMPTION
Private Sub Blah()
Dim SafeItem, oItem  

??? Set SafeItem = CreateObject("Redemption.SafeMailItem") 'Create an
instance of Redemption.SafeMailItem
??? Set oItem = Application.CreateItem(0) 'Create a new message
??? 
??? SafeItem.Item = oItem 'set Item property
??? SafeItem.Recipients.Add "clh at christopherhawkins.com"
??? SafeItem.Recipients.ResolveAll
??? SafeItem.Subject = "Testing Redemption"
??? SafeItem.Send
End Sub
[/CODE]

This code is triggered form a button click on a form.

When I run the code, I get an error message:

"Method or data member not found"

The error is on the .CreateItem method in the line that sets oItem to a new
item.





From clh at christopherhawkins.com  Thu Jun 30 11:37:30 2005
From: clh at christopherhawkins.com (Christopher Hawkins)
Date: Thu, 30 Jun 2005 10:37:30 -0600
Subject: [AccessD] Getting published...
Message-ID: <8aa897d66e794e48bb3a0eac8d4d49ec@christopherhawkins.com>

SD Magazine eMailed me this morning to tell me they want to publish one of my blog pieces.? I know some of you have been published, so before I respond to them I want to talk with you.? What should I ask for?? I don't want to get taken advantage of.

-C-

 


From clh at christopherhawkins.com  Thu Jun 30 11:46:15 2005
From: clh at christopherhawkins.com (Christopher Hawkins)
Date: Thu, 30 Jun 2005 10:46:15 -0600
Subject: SPAM-LOW:  RE: [AccessD] Using Outlook Redemption in Access
Message-ID: <002be4f99a2f4cd68dd4abee36fb5eb7@christopherhawkins.com>

OK, cool, let me tweak my code a little and see what I can brew up.? ;)

Someone was telling me I should be using ClickYes instead, but I haven't even looksed at it.? Anyone have any insight into that one?

-C-

----------------------------------------
 From: "Bruce H. Johnson" <bhjohnson at verizon.net>
Sent: Thursday, June 30, 2005 9:06 AM
To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'" <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Subject: SPAM-LOW: RE: [AccessD] Using Outlook Redemption in Access 

Here's the code I use in VB. Note the Application is an Outlook Application:
Public Function EMail_SendMail() As Boolean
'Use late binding to avoid version refs?
'Requires only Recipient and Subject
Dim outApp As Object
Dim outNameSpace As Object
Dim redSafeItem As Object
Dim outItem As Object
Dim strItem As String
Dim lngNdx As Long
Dim outRec As Object

If SAFEOUTLOOK_RUNTIME Then On Error GoTo EMail_SendMail_Err
EMail_SendMail = False 'default
If strEMail_Recipient(0) = vbNullString Or strEMail_Subject = vbNullString
Then
'Convert to messages when ready
MsgBox "One recipient and subject required.", vbOKOnly Or vbExclamation,
"EMail_SendMail"
EMail_SendMail = False
GoTo EMail_SendMail_Exit
End If
Set outApp = CreateObject("Outlook.Application")
Set outNameSpace = outApp.GetNamespace("MAPI")
outNameSpace.Logon

Set redSafeItem = CreateObject("Redemption.SafeMailItem") 'Create an
instance of Redemption.SafeMailItem
Set outItem = outApp.CreateItem(0) 'Create a new Mail Item
redSafeItem.Item = outItem 'set Item property
'Add recipients
For lngNdx = 0 To UBound(strEMail_Recipient)
strItem = Trim$(strEMail_Recipient(lngNdx))
If Len(strItem) Then
Set outRec = redSafeItem.Recipients.Add(strItem)
outRec.Type = 1 'To
Else
Exit For
End If
Next lngNdx
'redSafeItem.Recipients.ResolveAll
redSafeItem.Subject = strEMail_Subject
'Rest are optional
'CCs
For lngNdx = 0 To UBound(strEMail_CC)
strItem = Trim$(strEMail_CC(lngNdx))
If Len(strItem) Then
Set outRec = redSafeItem.Recipients.Add(strItem)
outRec.Type = 2 'CC
Else
Exit For
End If
Next lngNdx
'redSafeItem.Recipients.ResolveAll
'BCC
For lngNdx = 0 To UBound(strEMail_BCC)
strItem = Trim$(strEMail_BCC(lngNdx))
If Len(strItem) Then
Set outRec = redSafeItem.Recipients.Add(strItem)
outRec.Type = 3 'BCC
Else
Exit For
End If
Next lngNdx
redSafeItem.Recipients.ResolveAll
If Len(strEMail_Body) Then redSafeItem.Body = strEMail_Body
'Attachments
For lngNdx = 0 To UBound(strEMail_AttachmentFName)
strItem = Trim$(strEMail_AttachmentFName(lngNdx))
If Len(strItem) Then
redSafeItem.Attachments.Add strItem, 1, CLng(Len(strEMail_Body) + 5)
'Embed by value, position
Else
Exit For
End If
Next lngNdx
'If Len(strEMail_AttachmentFName) Then redSafeItem.Attachments.Add
strEMail_AttachmentFName
redSafeItem.Send 'puts in outbox or actually sends it
EMail_SendMail = True
Set outItem = Nothing
Set redSafeItem = Nothing
Set outNameSpace = Nothing
Set outApp = Nothing
GoTo EMail_SendMail_Exit

EMail_SendMail_Err:
MsgBox Err.Description, vbOKOnly Or vbExclamation, "EMail_SendMail"

EMail_SendMail_Exit:
'let objects fall out of reference
End Function 

Bruce H. Johnson
Sylmar, CA
-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Christopher
Hawkins
Sent: Wednesday, June 29, 2005 4:40 PM
RE: REDEMPTION
Private Sub Blah()
Dim SafeItem, oItem 

??? Set SafeItem = CreateObject("Redemption.SafeMailItem") 'Create an
instance of Redemption.SafeMailItem
??? Set oItem = Application.CreateItem(0) 'Create a new message
??? 
??? SafeItem.Item = oItem 'set Item property
??? SafeItem.Recipients.Add "clh at christopherhawkins.com"
??? SafeItem.Recipients.ResolveAll
??? SafeItem.Subject = "Testing Redemption"
??? SafeItem.Send
End Sub
[/CODE]

This code is triggered form a button click on a form.

When I run the code, I get an error message:

"Method or data member not found"

The error is on the .CreateItem method in the line that sets oItem to a new
item.

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From bchacc at san.rr.com  Thu Jun 30 12:18:25 2005
From: bchacc at san.rr.com (Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software)
Date: Thu, 30 Jun 2005 10:18:25 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Getting published...
References: <8aa897d66e794e48bb3a0eac8d4d49ec@christopherhawkins.com>
Message-ID: <01c101c57d97$b98238a0$6701a8c0@HAL9004>

Are they offering payment? If they are you could go to their website and see 
if they say what they pay authors.  You could look in Writer's Market as 
well.

They'll probably give you a boilerplate contract.  They'll probably get 
first North American rights. Generally, you keep the copyright.

Susan could probably tell you a lot more about this.


HEY, SUSAN!!

Rocky

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Christopher Hawkins" <clh at christopherhawkins.com>
To: <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Thursday, June 30, 2005 9:37 AM
Subject: [AccessD] Getting published...


SD Magazine eMailed me this morning to tell me they want to publish one of 
my blog pieces. I know some of you have been published, so before I respond 
to them I want to talk with you. What should I ask for? I don't want to get 
taken advantage of.

-C-


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From dkalsow at yahoo.com  Thu Jun 30 12:21:22 2005
From: dkalsow at yahoo.com (Dale Kalsow)
Date: Thu, 30 Jun 2005 10:21:22 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [AccessD] executing a submodule from a different form
Message-ID: <20050630172122.30019.qmail@web50409.mail.yahoo.com>

Good Afternoon,
 
I have a form that has a subform in it. In the subform there is a subroutine that I want to execute for a new popup form.  Does any one know how I reference this subroutine for the subform from the popup form?
 
Thanks!
 
Dale

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From cfoust at infostatsystems.com  Thu Jun 30 12:46:49 2005
From: cfoust at infostatsystems.com (Charlotte Foust)
Date: Thu, 30 Jun 2005 10:46:49 -0700
Subject: SPAM-LOW:  RE: [AccessD] Using Outlook Redemption in Access
Message-ID: <E61FC1D4B1918244905B113C680BEA86873AEC@infoserver01.infostat.local>

ClickYes is an applet that is used to reply to the dialog box.  It doesn't actually bypass the security annoyances the way Redemption does.

Charlotte Foust


-----Original Message-----
From: Christopher Hawkins [mailto:clh at christopherhawkins.com] 
Sent: Thursday, June 30, 2005 9:46 AM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: re: SPAM-LOW: RE: [AccessD] Using Outlook Redemption in Access


OK, cool, let me tweak my code a little and see what I can brew up.? ;)

Someone was telling me I should be using ClickYes instead, but I haven't even looksed at it.? Anyone have any insight into that one?

-C-

----------------------------------------
 From: "Bruce H. Johnson" <bhjohnson at verizon.net>
Sent: Thursday, June 30, 2005 9:06 AM
To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'" <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Subject: SPAM-LOW: RE: [AccessD] Using Outlook Redemption in Access 

Here's the code I use in VB. Note the Application is an Outlook Application: Public Function EMail_SendMail() As Boolean 'Use late binding to avoid version refs? 'Requires only Recipient and Subject Dim outApp As Object Dim outNameSpace As Object Dim redSafeItem As Object Dim outItem As Object Dim strItem As String Dim lngNdx As Long Dim outRec As Object

If SAFEOUTLOOK_RUNTIME Then On Error GoTo EMail_SendMail_Err EMail_SendMail = False 'default If strEMail_Recipient(0) = vbNullString Or strEMail_Subject = vbNullString Then 'Convert to messages when ready MsgBox "One recipient and subject required.", vbOKOnly Or vbExclamation, "EMail_SendMail" EMail_SendMail = False GoTo EMail_SendMail_Exit End If Set outApp = CreateObject("Outlook.Application")
Set outNameSpace = outApp.GetNamespace("MAPI") outNameSpace.Logon

Set redSafeItem = CreateObject("Redemption.SafeMailItem") 'Create an instance of Redemption.SafeMailItem Set outItem = outApp.CreateItem(0) 'Create a new Mail Item redSafeItem.Item = outItem 'set Item property 'Add recipients For lngNdx = 0 To UBound(strEMail_Recipient) strItem = Trim$(strEMail_Recipient(lngNdx)) If Len(strItem) Then Set outRec = redSafeItem.Recipients.Add(strItem)
outRec.Type = 1 'To
Else
Exit For
End If
Next lngNdx
'redSafeItem.Recipients.ResolveAll
redSafeItem.Subject = strEMail_Subject
'Rest are optional
'CCs
For lngNdx = 0 To UBound(strEMail_CC)
strItem = Trim$(strEMail_CC(lngNdx))
If Len(strItem) Then
Set outRec = redSafeItem.Recipients.Add(strItem)
outRec.Type = 2 'CC
Else
Exit For
End If
Next lngNdx
'redSafeItem.Recipients.ResolveAll
'BCC
For lngNdx = 0 To UBound(strEMail_BCC)
strItem = Trim$(strEMail_BCC(lngNdx))
If Len(strItem) Then
Set outRec = redSafeItem.Recipients.Add(strItem)
outRec.Type = 3 'BCC
Else
Exit For
End If
Next lngNdx
redSafeItem.Recipients.ResolveAll
If Len(strEMail_Body) Then redSafeItem.Body = strEMail_Body 'Attachments For lngNdx = 0 To UBound(strEMail_AttachmentFName) strItem = Trim$(strEMail_AttachmentFName(lngNdx))
If Len(strItem) Then
redSafeItem.Attachments.Add strItem, 1, CLng(Len(strEMail_Body) + 5) 'Embed by value, position Else Exit For End If Next lngNdx 'If Len(strEMail_AttachmentFName) Then redSafeItem.Attachments.Add strEMail_AttachmentFName redSafeItem.Send 'puts in outbox or actually sends it EMail_SendMail = True Set outItem = Nothing Set redSafeItem = Nothing Set outNameSpace = Nothing Set outApp = Nothing GoTo EMail_SendMail_Exit

EMail_SendMail_Err:
MsgBox Err.Description, vbOKOnly Or vbExclamation, "EMail_SendMail"

EMail_SendMail_Exit:
'let objects fall out of reference
End Function 

Bruce H. Johnson
Sylmar, CA
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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Christopher Hawkins
Sent: Wednesday, June 29, 2005 4:40 PM
RE: REDEMPTION
Private Sub Blah()
Dim SafeItem, oItem 

??? Set SafeItem = CreateObject("Redemption.SafeMailItem") 'Create an instance of Redemption.SafeMailItem
??? Set oItem = Application.CreateItem(0) 'Create a new message
??? 
??? SafeItem.Item = oItem 'set Item property
??? SafeItem.Recipients.Add "clh at christopherhawkins.com"
??? SafeItem.Recipients.ResolveAll
??? SafeItem.Subject = "Testing Redemption"
??? SafeItem.Send
End Sub
[/CODE]

This code is triggered form a button click on a form.

When I run the code, I get an error message:

"Method or data member not found"

The error is on the .CreateItem method in the line that sets oItem to a new item.

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From darsant at gmail.com  Thu Jun 30 12:46:58 2005
From: darsant at gmail.com (Josh McFarlane)
Date: Thu, 30 Jun 2005 12:46:58 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] executing a submodule from a different form
In-Reply-To: <20050630172122.30019.qmail@web50409.mail.yahoo.com>
References: <20050630172122.30019.qmail@web50409.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <53c8e05a05063010466dabf724@mail.gmail.com>

On 6/30/05, Dale Kalsow <dkalsow at yahoo.com> wrote:
> Good Afternoon,
> 
> I have a form that has a subform in it. In the subform there is a subroutine that I want to execute for a new popup form.  Does any one know how I reference this subroutine for the subform from the popup form?
> 
> Thanks!
> 
> Dale
If it is a public function, you can refer to it the same way you refer
to a field on the form from another form. It's been a while, but I
think it's Forms_FormName.FunctionName


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-Albert Einstein


From fahooper at trapo.com  Thu Jun 30 12:47:40 2005
From: fahooper at trapo.com (Fred Hooper)
Date: Thu, 30 Jun 2005 13:47:40 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] executing a submodule from a different form
In-Reply-To: <20050630172122.30019.qmail@web50409.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <001201c57d9b$cf64a690$2e01a8c0@fredxp>

Try Form_frmOldSubForm.SubroutineName

Make sure the subroutine you want to name is Public.

Fred Hooper

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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Dale Kalsow
Sent: Thursday, June 30, 2005 1:21 PM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [AccessD] executing a submodule from a different form

Good Afternoon,
 
I have a form that has a subform in it. In the subform there is a subroutine
that I want to execute for a new popup form.  Does any one know how I
reference this subroutine for the subform from the popup form?
 
Thanks!
 
Dale

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From cfoust at infostatsystems.com  Thu Jun 30 12:49:40 2005
From: cfoust at infostatsystems.com (Charlotte Foust)
Date: Thu, 30 Jun 2005 10:49:40 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] executing a submodule from a different form
Message-ID: <E61FC1D4B1918244905B113C680BEA86873AED@infoserver01.infostat.local>

I'm not sure I understand.  You want the popup form to execute a sub on
a subform of an open form?  Or do you mean you want to use the same
routine in the popup?  If the latter, the way to do it is put the
routine in a standard module and call it from each location that needs
to use it.  If the former, what is it you're trying to accomplish?  You
can interact between forms, but it is cleaner to send a message back to
the subform (or whatever) and allow that object to act on itself.

Charlotte Foust


-----Original Message-----
From: Dale Kalsow [mailto:dkalsow at yahoo.com] 
Sent: Thursday, June 30, 2005 10:21 AM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [AccessD] executing a submodule from a different form


Good Afternoon,
 
I have a form that has a subform in it. In the subform there is a
subroutine that I want to execute for a new popup form.  Does any one
know how I reference this subroutine for the subform from the popup
form?
 
Thanks!
 
Dale

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From clh at christopherhawkins.com  Thu Jun 30 13:47:48 2005
From: clh at christopherhawkins.com (Christopher Hawkins)
Date: Thu, 30 Jun 2005 12:47:48 -0600
Subject: SPAM-LOW:  Re: [AccessD] Getting published...
Message-ID: <e3b015c83c034760a6682ff2f59380fa@christopherhawkins.com>

Well, they just asked if they could publish it.? They didn't address anything about rights or compensation.

I suppose I could write back and ask what terms they're proposing....

-C-

----------------------------------------
 From: "Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software" <bchacc at san.rr.com>
Sent: Thursday, June 30, 2005 11:23 AM
To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving" <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Subject: SPAM-LOW: Re: [AccessD] Getting published... 

Are they offering payment? If they are you could go to their website and see 
if they say what they pay authors. You could look in Writer's Market as 
well.

They'll probably give you a boilerplate contract. They'll probably get 
first North American rights. Generally, you keep the copyright.

Susan could probably tell you a lot more about this.

HEY, SUSAN!!

Rocky

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Christopher Hawkins" 
To: 
Sent: Thursday, June 30, 2005 9:37 AM
Subject: [AccessD] Getting published...

SD Magazine eMailed me this morning to tell me they want to publish one of 
my blog pieces. I know some of you have been published, so before I respond 
to them I want to talk with you. What should I ask for? I don't want to get 
taken advantage of.

-C-

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From artful at rogers.com  Thu Jun 30 14:08:48 2005
From: artful at rogers.com (Arthur Fuller)
Date: Thu, 30 Jun 2005 15:08:48 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Getting published...
In-Reply-To: <8aa897d66e794e48bb3a0eac8d4d49ec@christopherhawkins.com>
Message-ID: <200506301908.j5UJ8mR09773@databaseadvisors.com>

They will probably offer you a small amount of money and ask for rights in
perpetuity. Most of them do that nowadays. More to the point is what you
want out of it. Academic recognition? Money? Leads to new gigs? More writing
for them? IMO you need to decide these issues before talking to them.

As for me, I do want to be taken advantage of, but Uma Thurman and Maria
Sharapova seem to be too busy. Alack and alas.

Arthur

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Christopher
Hawkins
Sent: June 30, 2005 12:38 PM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [AccessD] Getting published...

SD Magazine eMailed me this morning to tell me they want to publish one of
my blog pieces.? I know some of you have been published, so before I respond
to them I want to talk with you.? What should I ask for?? I don't want to
get taken advantage of.

-C-



From ssharkins at bellsouth.net  Thu Jun 30 14:12:53 2005
From: ssharkins at bellsouth.net (Susan Harkins)
Date: Thu, 30 Jun 2005 15:12:53 -0400
Subject: SPAM-LOW:  Re: [AccessD] Getting published...
In-Reply-To: <e3b015c83c034760a6682ff2f59380fa@christopherhawkins.com>
Message-ID: <20050630191339.DSIQ25470.ibm57aec.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>

The truth is, you don't really ask for anything -- all publishers have
different requirements, and you either play ball, or you don't get
published. 

Since this is from a blog, you probably won't have much to worry about --
it's already been published, so they probably won't try to buy all rights --
you should be able to republish anyplace you like -- you'll just have to ask
them about that to make sure you don't violate anything. 

They may want to publish it for free -- that's not uncommon with already
published material. If that's the case, all you really get out of it is some
fame. :) 

If they send you a contract and you don't understand the rights clauses,
just ask them. They'll either buy it outright and require that you take it
off your blog and never use it again or they'll buy first publishing rights,
which means you can reprint it but you have to say, "published first by
....," some buy all rights for a year and then it reverts back to you to
republish, resell...  -- there are a few different ways they could go. 

Susan H. 

Well, they just asked if they could publish it.? They didn't address
anything about rights or compensation.

I suppose I could write back and ask what terms they're proposing....

-C-

----------------------------------------
 From: "Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software" <bchacc at san.rr.com>
Sent: Thursday, June 30, 2005 11:23 AM
To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving"
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Subject: SPAM-LOW: Re: [AccessD] Getting published... 

Are they offering payment? If they are you could go to their website and see
if they say what they pay authors. You could look in Writer's Market as
well.

They'll probably give you a boilerplate contract. They'll probably get first
North American rights. Generally, you keep the copyright.

Susan could probably tell you a lot more about this.

HEY, SUSAN!!

Rocky

----- Original Message -----
From: "Christopher Hawkins" 
To: 
Sent: Thursday, June 30, 2005 9:37 AM
Subject: [AccessD] Getting published...

SD Magazine eMailed me this morning to tell me they want to publish one of
my blog pieces. I know some of you have been published, so before I respond
to them I want to talk with you. What should I ask for? I don't want to get
taken advantage of.

-C-

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From prosoft6 at hotmail.com  Thu Jun 30 14:21:41 2005
From: prosoft6 at hotmail.com (Julie Reardon-Taylor)
Date: Thu, 30 Jun 2005 15:21:41 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Copy Existing Record Including Subform
Message-ID: <BAY104-F121A62E2FE15183E421F439AE30@phx.gbl>

Okay...this should be easy, but I'm stumped.

I have a from that is linked to a subform...works great.

The user wants to create an exact duplicate of both the main form, including 
the subform, and have the abililty to simply change the date on the main 
form.  In other words, create an exact duplicate of the records.

I can only get the subform to write the first record.  It won't go to the 
second and third record.  What am I missing?



Julie Reardon-Taylor
PRO-SOFT OF NY, INC.
44 Public Square Suite #5
Watertown, NY 13601
Phone/Fax: (315) 785-0319
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From martyconnelly at shaw.ca  Thu Jun 30 14:29:21 2005
From: martyconnelly at shaw.ca (MartyConnelly)
Date: Thu, 30 Jun 2005 12:29:21 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Check date-time problem
References: <20050630053457.99403.qmail@web31610.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <42C44811.6050000@shaw.ca>

So what is the problem, are you running more than 24 hours?

Sad Der wrote:

>Hi group,
>
>I've got an ini file with the following values:
>[PauzeScheduling]
>StartPauzeAt=21:00
>EndPauzeAt=3:00
>
>I've got a 'service' that checks if the Currenttime:
>dtmCurrentTime = CDate(Format(Time(), "hh:mm"))
>
>Is between these values. 
>
>It worked fine. Settings used to be within a day.
>Somebody has got to have dealt with this problem
>before.
>What is a (very) solid way to handle this problem?
>Keep in mind that this is a long running schedule
>(e.g. forever?!)
>
>Thnx.
>SD
>
>Here's my code:
>
>'=========================================================================================
>' Function Name      :  PauzeScheduling
>' Parameters         :  dtmCurrentTime => Current
>Time' Return value       :  (Boolean) True:
>CurrentTime between scheduled times
>' Purpose            :  Check if current time is
>within the scheduled times of the ini file
>' Assumptions        :  ---
>' Uses               :  ---
>' Created            :  2005-Jun-03 08:55, SaDe
>' Modifications      :
>'=========================================================================================
>Public Function PauzeScheduling(dtmCurrentTime As
>Date) As Boolean
>   Dim dtmStartPauze As Date
>   Dim dtmEndPauze As Date
>   
>   On Error GoTo PauzeScheduling_Error
>   
>   dtmStartPauze =
>CDate(Format(g_oGenSet.GetValue("PauzeScheduling",
>"StartPauzeAt"), "HH:mm"))
>   dtmEndPauze =
>CDate(Format(g_oGenSet.GetValue("PauzeScheduling",
>"EndPauzeAt"), "hh:mm"))
>   
>   
>   If (dtmCurrentTime > dtmStartPauze) And
>(dtmCurrentTime < dtmEndPauze) Then
>      PauzeScheduling = True
>   Else
>      PauzeScheduling = False
>   End If
>
>PauzeScheduling_Exit:
>   ' Collect your garbage here
>   Exit Function
>PauzeScheduling_Error:
>   ' Collect your garbage here
>   Call
>g_oGenErr.Throw("PauzeScheduling.PauzeScheduling",
>"PauzeScheduling")
>End Function
>
>
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From prosoft6 at hotmail.com  Thu Jun 30 14:47:48 2005
From: prosoft6 at hotmail.com (Julie Reardon-Taylor)
Date: Thu, 30 Jun 2005 15:47:48 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Copy Existing Record Including Subform
In-Reply-To: <BAY104-F121A62E2FE15183E421F439AE30@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <BAY104-F90F7B9DD65AF80A3839569AE30@phx.gbl>

Nevermind.  I found what I needed in the MS-KnowlegeBase in Article ID : 
208824 .

Thanks anyway!



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From dkalsow at yahoo.com  Thu Jun 30 14:50:16 2005
From: dkalsow at yahoo.com (Dale Kalsow)
Date: Thu, 30 Jun 2005 12:50:16 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [AccessD] executing a submodule from a different form
In-Reply-To: <001201c57d9b$cf64a690$2e01a8c0@fredxp>
Message-ID: <20050630195016.8222.qmail@web50401.mail.yahoo.com>

Thanks that worked great.  I was using Form!frmOldSubForm.SubroutineName and it just was not working.
 
Dale

Fred Hooper <fahooper at trapo.com> wrote:
Try Form_frmOldSubForm.SubroutineName

Make sure the subroutine you want to name is Public.

Fred Hooper

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Sent: Thursday, June 30, 2005 1:21 PM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [AccessD] executing a submodule from a different form

Good Afternoon,

I have a form that has a subform in it. In the subform there is a subroutine
that I want to execute for a new popup form. Does any one know how I
reference this subroutine for the subform from the popup form?

Thanks!

Dale

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From clh at christopherhawkins.com  Thu Jun 30 15:31:48 2005
From: clh at christopherhawkins.com (Christopher Hawkins)
Date: Thu, 30 Jun 2005 14:31:48 -0600
Subject: SPAM-LOW:  Re: [AccessD] Getting published...
Message-ID: <02b4a6b1169c408b83f1e5a95b331132@christopherhawkins.com>

I just got off the phone with them.? Looks like $500 and first publishing rights for 6 months.? Not a bad deal for an hour of work.? Plus she's asking if I have anything on a couple of other topics.

Cool!? :D

-C-

----------------------------------------
 From: "Susan Harkins" <ssharkins at bellsouth.net>
Sent: Thursday, June 30, 2005 1:17 PM
To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'" <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Subject: RE: SPAM-LOW: Re: [AccessD] Getting published... 

The truth is, you don't really ask for anything -- all publishers have
different requirements, and you either play ball, or you don't get
published. 

Since this is from a blog, you probably won't have much to worry about --
it's already been published, so they probably won't try to buy all rights --
you should be able to republish anyplace you like -- you'll just have to ask
them about that to make sure you don't violate anything. 

They may want to publish it for free -- that's not uncommon with already
published material. If that's the case, all you really get out of it is some
fame. :) 

If they send you a contract and you don't understand the rights clauses,
just ask them. They'll either buy it outright and require that you take it
off your blog and never use it again or they'll buy first publishing rights,
which means you can reprint it but you have to say, "published first by
....," some buy all rights for a year and then it reverts back to you to
republish, resell... -- there are a few different ways they could go. 

Susan H. 

Well, they just asked if they could publish it.? They didn't address
anything about rights or compensation.

I suppose I could write back and ask what terms they're proposing....

-C-

----------------------------------------
From: "Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software" 
Sent: Thursday, June 30, 2005 11:23 AM
To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving"

Subject: SPAM-LOW: Re: [AccessD] Getting published... 

Are they offering payment? If they are you could go to their website and see
if they say what they pay authors. You could look in Writer's Market as
well.

They'll probably give you a boilerplate contract. They'll probably get first
North American rights. Generally, you keep the copyright.

Susan could probably tell you a lot more about this.

HEY, SUSAN!!

Rocky

----- Original Message -----
From: "Christopher Hawkins" 
To: 
Sent: Thursday, June 30, 2005 9:37 AM
Subject: [AccessD] Getting published...

SD Magazine eMailed me this morning to tell me they want to publish one of
my blog pieces. I know some of you have been published, so before I respond
to them I want to talk with you. What should I ask for? I don't want to get
taken advantage of.

-C-

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From susanj at sgmeet.com  Thu Jun 30 16:41:08 2005
From: susanj at sgmeet.com (Susan Jones)
Date: Thu, 30 Jun 2005 16:41:08 -0500
Subject: SPAM-LOW:  Re: [AccessD] Getting published...
In-Reply-To: <02b4a6b1169c408b83f1e5a95b331132@christopherhawkins.com>
References: <02b4a6b1169c408b83f1e5a95b331132@christopherhawkins.com>
Message-ID: <6.0.1.1.2.20050630164046.037aa5c0@192.168.3.99>

Cool, indeed! Congratulations!
Susan

At 03:31 PM 6/30/05, you wrote:
>I just got off the phone with them.  Looks like $500 and first publishing 
>rights for 6 months.  Not a bad deal for an hour of work.  Plus she's 
>asking if I have anything on a couple of other topics.
>
>Cool!  :D
>
>-C-



From starkey at wanadoo.nl  Thu Jun 30 17:02:46 2005
From: starkey at wanadoo.nl (StaRKeY)
Date: Fri, 1 Jul 2005 00:02:46 +0200
Subject: [AccessD] Expression not working in text box
In-Reply-To: <20050623124955.QFUR4468.ibm61aec.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>
Message-ID: <20050630215825.518A2451C0@smtp6.wanadoo.nl>

Susan, 

I understand you use the code in the immediate window however what does the
code in your mainform look like? 

It's my understanding that the code in your mainform would look like this: 
'subform.Form.RecordsetClone.RecordCount' without the 'Forms!mainform!'
since you are already in this form and you only need to reference the
subform, hope this helps. Ofcourse in the immediate window you would need
the reference to the mainform since the focus is not on the mainform then...

The only other thing I can think of what might be troubling is the
recordcount property... I am not sure if this still is needed in 2003 but I
am used to do a movelast and a movefirst to populate the recordset to be
able to get a proper recordcount but ohwell:-) My first guess is the line of
code from what you posted is too long for the mainform.

Let me know whether I am close to the solution ok? If not I'll make my own
sample here in 2003!;-) 

Good luck, 
Eric Starkenburg 

-----Oorspronkelijk bericht----- 
Van: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] Namens Susan Harkins 
Verzonden: donderdag 23 juni 2005 14:50 
Aan: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' 
Onderwerp: [AccessD] Expression not working in text box 

=Forms!mainform!subform.Form.RecordsetClone.RecordCount 
  
I've used the above expression before, in a main form, to return a count of
the records in a subform. It isn't working in 2003. It works in the
Immediate window, so I have no clue what the problem is. :( 

  
I know I can just use Count(*) in the subform and reference that control --
and I will if I have to in the end -- but anyone know what they above won't
work in 2003? 

  
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From starkey at wanadoo.nl  Thu Jun 30 17:11:09 2005
From: starkey at wanadoo.nl (StaRKeY)
Date: Fri, 1 Jul 2005 00:11:09 +0200
Subject: [AccessD] Normalizing issue
In-Reply-To: <20050623135959.FMWJ25470.ibm57aec.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>
Message-ID: <20050630220648.6999044DEC@smtp6.wanadoo.nl>

Hi again, 

Stick to the subject(fieldnames)... So lastname only in lastname field,
firstname could contain something like 'Susan (Sales)'. The middle part is
rather part of your first name then your lastname since people tend to do a
search on lastname and besides that your lastname is Harkins and NOT Sales
Harkins!!

However I am more curious about the why you handle three professional
names?? Isn't it the same person in three different roles?:-P 

In a letter or report or whatever you'd use your real name Susan Harkins and
then maybe followed by a referal like (Sales) or (Teaser) so in short any
data entry person would only enter your name once and then add three roles
to it...

Who the shoe fits... 

BN, 
Eric Starkenburg 

-----Oorspronkelijk bericht----- 
Van: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] Namens Susan Harkins 
Verzonden: donderdag 23 juni 2005 16:00 
Aan: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' 
Onderwerp: [AccessD] Normalizing issue 

How do you guys deal with people that use three or more names
professionally? I do -- Susan Sales Harkins. 
  
Do you store the second name with the first or use three fields? The middle
name really isn't a "middle" name. It's actually part of the last name, but
the last name is the real last name -- so if you stored it with the last
name, you'd have to depend on users to enter it correctly, as in Harkins,
Sales --  which is a mistake before you even get started... And how do you
write in the flexibility that handles 2 or 3 names? 

  
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From starkey at wanadoo.nl  Thu Jun 30 17:13:19 2005
From: starkey at wanadoo.nl (StaRKeY)
Date: Fri, 1 Jul 2005 00:13:19 +0200
Subject: [AccessD] Normalizing issue
In-Reply-To: <20050623154231.MOKU25209.ibm63aec.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>
Message-ID: <20050630220858.88C4B450A4@smtp6.wanadoo.nl>

Mmmzzzz still going strong this thread.... 

So writing names?? Use aliasses instead of roles like i mentioned in earlier
mail... Whatever they want just give i to them and let them have as many
names/aliasses/roles they want:-)

  

-----Oorspronkelijk bericht----- 
Van: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] Namens Susan Harkins 
Verzonden: donderdag 23 juni 2005 17:43 
Aan: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' 
Onderwerp: RE: [AccessD] Normalizing issue 

  
If it isn't a middle or maiden name, what is it?  This gets even more tricky
with non-English names where "last" names can get really confusing.  I
generally provide a field for first, middle, and last name and make it the
responsibility of the user to enter the appropriate value in the appropriate
field.  The rules for parsing this can become so draconian, that it hardly
seems worth the work to do anything else.

========I'm in the middle of creating a database (pro bono) for a writer's
organization. It's a simple deal and will require little work -- but this is
already cropping up. These people will want their "writing" names with their
publications -- I'm thinking about just adding one more field to store their
"pen name" or whatever -- but then that becomes a nuisance if their name and
professional name are the same -- gotta fill in both or allow for the blanks
and go find the real name -- such a nuisance -- 

I think at this point the middle name is the best solution -- 

Susan H. 

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From ssharkins at bellsouth.net  Thu Jun 30 17:31:44 2005
From: ssharkins at bellsouth.net (Susan Harkins)
Date: Thu, 30 Jun 2005 18:31:44 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Expression not working in text box
In-Reply-To: <20050630215825.518A2451C0@smtp6.wanadoo.nl>
Message-ID: <20050630223143.NEPK4468.ibm61aec.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>

 The only other thing I can think of what might be troubling is the
recordcount property... I am not sure if this still is needed in 2003 but I
am used to do a movelast and a movefirst to populate the recordset to be
able to get a proper recordcount but ohwell:-) My first guess is the line of
code from what you posted is too long for the mainform.

==========I put a Recalc in the form's module -- still didn't work. Works in
2002, not in 2003. I think there's something wrong with my copy of 2003 --
not the only flaky business I had last week. 

Susan H. 



From ssharkins at bellsouth.net  Thu Jun 30 17:31:44 2005
From: ssharkins at bellsouth.net (Susan Harkins)
Date: Thu, 30 Jun 2005 18:31:44 -0400
Subject: SPAM-LOW:  Re: [AccessD] Getting published...
In-Reply-To: <02b4a6b1169c408b83f1e5a95b331132@christopherhawkins.com>
Message-ID: <20050630223150.NEQC4468.ibm61aec.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>

Yelp -- good deal. Congratulations! :) 

Susan H. 

I just got off the phone with them.? Looks like $500 and first publishing
rights for 6 months.? Not a bad deal for an hour of work.? Plus she's asking
if I have anything on a couple of other topics.




From clh at christopherhawkins.com  Wed Jun  1 02:43:05 2005
From: clh at christopherhawkins.com (Christopher Hawkins)
Date: Wed, 1 Jun 2005 01:43:05 -0600
Subject: [AccessD] OT: Icons
Message-ID: <71409e737f5144de8915a5d7a975fa34@christopherhawkins.com>

http://www.glyfx.com/?offers a decent set of free icons, and their purchasable sets are pretty good.? Affordable too.? Check them out.

-C-

----------------------------------------
 From: "Andy Lacey" <andy at minstersystems.co.uk>
Sent: Friday, May 27, 2005 2:05 PM
To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'" <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Subject: RE: [AccessD] OT: Icons 

Whoa. That'll keep me occupied. Thanks Brett.

-- Andy Lacey
http://www.minstersystems.co.uk 

> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com 
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of 
> Brett Barabash
> Sent: 27 May 2005 15:39
> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> Subject: RE: [AccessD] OT: Icons
> 
> 
> This was discussed a while ago.
> Credit Goes to Joe Rojas, Joshua B, Martin, Drew and Francisco.
> 
> http://www.marvilla.us/
> http://www.foood.net/icons/ http://www.studiotwentyeight.net/icons.htm
> http://xcession.web1000.com/pages/default.html
> http://www.hardwaregeeks.com/board/forumdisplay.php?s=&forumid=128
> http://www.jonmega.com/~clotz/ 
> http://www.deskmod.com/?show=showcat&cat_name=icons
> http://www.deviantart.com/browse/t/icon/winicons/
> http://www.dotico.com/
> http://icons.visualnoise.net/
> http://icons.wbchug.net/
> http://www.deathlace.tk/
> http://www.logipole.com/
> http://axialis.com
> http://www.aha-soft.com/iconxp/index.htm
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Andy Lacey
> Sent: Friday, May 27, 2005 8:22 AM
> To: Dba
> Subject: [AccessD] OT: Icons
> 
> 
> Hi all
> Does anyone have a source for good icons/images? Serious, 
> neat ones not cartoon-y. I alwsys run into this problem when 
> the customer asks for a picture on a screen. I've got DIB 
> Pictures but that's limited to Windows-related stuff, so when 
> I need a car, an ambulance, a fire, etc I'm stuffed. And when 
> I Google "free icons" I get a million links, mostly to sites 
> which want to charge you in the end. Any good pointers?
> --
> Andy Lacey
> http://www.minstersystems.co.uk
> 
> 
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From lembit.soobik at t-online.de  Wed Jun  1 03:08:22 2005
From: lembit.soobik at t-online.de (Lembit Soobik)
Date: Wed, 1 Jun 2005 10:08:22 +0200
Subject: [AccessD] OT: Icons
References: <71409e737f5144de8915a5d7a975fa34@christopherhawkins.com>
Message-ID: <00b601c56681$141b1260$0800a8c0@s856>

and I just found out that Irfanview, a free software, can convert your JPG 
or BMP or whatever to ICO.
so you can make your own icons also.

Lembit

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From: "Christopher Hawkins" <clh at christopherhawkins.com>
To: <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Wednesday, June 01, 2005 9:43 AM
Subject: RE: [AccessD] OT: Icons


http://www.glyfx.com/ offers a decent set of free icons, and their 
purchasable sets are pretty good. Affordable too. Check them out.

-C-

----------------------------------------
 From: "Andy Lacey" <andy at minstersystems.co.uk>
Sent: Friday, May 27, 2005 2:05 PM
To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'" 
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Subject: RE: [AccessD] OT: Icons

Whoa. That'll keep me occupied. Thanks Brett.

-- Andy Lacey
http://www.minstersystems.co.uk

> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of
> Brett Barabash
> Sent: 27 May 2005 15:39
> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> Subject: RE: [AccessD] OT: Icons
>
>
> This was discussed a while ago.
> Credit Goes to Joe Rojas, Joshua B, Martin, Drew and Francisco.
>
> http://www.marvilla.us/
> http://www.foood.net/icons/ http://www.studiotwentyeight.net/icons.htm
> http://xcession.web1000.com/pages/default.html
> http://www.hardwaregeeks.com/board/forumdisplay.php?s=&forumid=128
> http://www.jonmega.com/~clotz/
> http://www.deskmod.com/?show=showcat&cat_name=icons
> http://www.deviantart.com/browse/t/icon/winicons/
> http://www.dotico.com/
> http://icons.visualnoise.net/
> http://icons.wbchug.net/
> http://www.deathlace.tk/
> http://www.logipole.com/
> http://axialis.com
> http://www.aha-soft.com/iconxp/index.htm
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Andy Lacey
> Sent: Friday, May 27, 2005 8:22 AM
> To: Dba
> Subject: [AccessD] OT: Icons
>
>
> Hi all
> Does anyone have a source for good icons/images? Serious,
> neat ones not cartoon-y. I alwsys run into this problem when
> the customer asks for a picture on a screen. I've got DIB
> Pictures but that's limited to Windows-related stuff, so when
> I need a car, an ambulance, a fire, etc I'm stuffed. And when
> I Google "free icons" I get a million links, mostly to sites
> which want to charge you in the end. Any good pointers?
> --
> Andy Lacey
> http://www.minstersystems.co.uk
>
>
>
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From cyx5 at cdc.gov  Wed Jun  1 05:57:47 2005
From: cyx5 at cdc.gov (Nicholson, Karen)
Date: Wed, 1 Jun 2005 06:57:47 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] The Sleep Advisor - Version 5 - Call for Beta Testers
Message-ID: <A5B5AA20555F594BA7B6BD2048E49E4376F94C@m-niosh-5.niosh.cdc.gov>

I took the survey and sent in my results.  It is a great system.  I did
not try to break it - I answered the questions as ordered.  I will
download again today if that is possible and try to be stupid and not
answer yes or no to some of the questions to see if it error traps me
for a reply. 

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Rocky Smolin
- Beach Access Software
Sent: Tuesday, May 31, 2005 2:49 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] The Sleep Advisor - Version 5 - Call for Beta
Testers

Thanks.  My partner actually caught that one. Fixed but not posted yet.
Any other?  All typo notices gratefully accepted.

Rocky

----- Original Message -----
From: "Nicholson, Karen" <cyx5 at cdc.gov>
To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving" 
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Tuesday, May 31, 2005 10:52 AM
Subject: RE: [AccessD] The Sleep Advisor - Version 5 - Call for Beta
Testers


> Grammar lady.  Assessment is mis-spelled on the overview screen.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Rocky
Smolin
> - Beach Access Software
> Sent: Tuesday, May 31, 2005 12:53 PM
> To: AccessD at databaseadvisors.com
> Subject: [AccessD] The Sleep Advisor - Version 5 - Call for Beta
Testers
>
> Dear List:
>
> Version 5 of The Sleep Advisor is now ready for beta testing:
>
> All new graphics!
> Reorganized friendlier reporting!
> All new bugs!
>
> There is a Wise/Sagekey run-time download available at
> http://www.drnaiman.com/sleepad.php
>
> or for those of you who have Access 2003 you can email me off line and
> I'll send you just the mde.
>
> Although it runs on Windows 2000 I have noticed some problems that
don't
> affect the operation or outcome of the program - just the esthetics
(in
> particular, I have an embedded background graphic that doesn't display
> under W2K but does fine under WXP, go figure).
>
> For those who may not be aware, The Sleep Advisor is an expert system
> designed to diagnose the most common sleep problems - insomnias,
apnea,
> narcolepsy, hypersomnia, etc., as well as identify a variety of sleep
> health related issues such as nocturia, bruxism, jet lag, shift work,
> anxiety disorders, bed and bedroom problems, etc.  The report includes
a
> Guidebook to remedies and recommendations the contents of which are
> tailored to the user's responses and sleep health analysis.
>
> We still need a lot of beta testing to perfect the diagnostic engine.
> In addition, any technical feedback I could get from this list would
be
> of great value.
>
> Hopefully for your time and efforts you'll receive some value from the
> reports.
>
> With many thanks in advance,
>
> Rocky Smolin
> Beach Access Software
> http://www.e-z-mrp.com
> 858-259-4334
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From bchacc at san.rr.com  Wed Jun  1 08:29:53 2005
From: bchacc at san.rr.com (Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software)
Date: Wed, 1 Jun 2005 06:29:53 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] The Sleep Advisor - Version 5 - Call for Beta Testers
References: <A5B5AA20555F594BA7B6BD2048E49E4376F94C@m-niosh-5.niosh.cdc.gov>
Message-ID: <002301c566ad$fe93c680$6501a8c0@HAL9004>

Karen:

You might not be able to download it to the same address.  If so, let me 
know and I'll just send you the mde.

Tanks and regards,

Rocky

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Nicholson, Karen" <cyx5 at cdc.gov>
To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving" 
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Wednesday, June 01, 2005 3:57 AM
Subject: RE: [AccessD] The Sleep Advisor - Version 5 - Call for Beta Testers


>I took the survey and sent in my results.  It is a great system.  I did
> not try to break it - I answered the questions as ordered.  I will
> download again today if that is possible and try to be stupid and not
> answer yes or no to some of the questions to see if it error traps me
> for a reply.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Rocky Smolin
> - Beach Access Software
> Sent: Tuesday, May 31, 2005 2:49 PM
> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] The Sleep Advisor - Version 5 - Call for Beta
> Testers
>
> Thanks.  My partner actually caught that one. Fixed but not posted yet.
> Any other?  All typo notices gratefully accepted.
>
> Rocky
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Nicholson, Karen" <cyx5 at cdc.gov>
> To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving"
> <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, May 31, 2005 10:52 AM
> Subject: RE: [AccessD] The Sleep Advisor - Version 5 - Call for Beta
> Testers
>
>
>> Grammar lady.  Assessment is mis-spelled on the overview screen.
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Rocky
> Smolin
>> - Beach Access Software
>> Sent: Tuesday, May 31, 2005 12:53 PM
>> To: AccessD at databaseadvisors.com
>> Subject: [AccessD] The Sleep Advisor - Version 5 - Call for Beta
> Testers
>>
>> Dear List:
>>
>> Version 5 of The Sleep Advisor is now ready for beta testing:
>>
>> All new graphics!
>> Reorganized friendlier reporting!
>> All new bugs!
>>
>> There is a Wise/Sagekey run-time download available at
>> http://www.drnaiman.com/sleepad.php
>>
>> or for those of you who have Access 2003 you can email me off line and
>> I'll send you just the mde.
>>
>> Although it runs on Windows 2000 I have noticed some problems that
> don't
>> affect the operation or outcome of the program - just the esthetics
> (in
>> particular, I have an embedded background graphic that doesn't display
>> under W2K but does fine under WXP, go figure).
>>
>> For those who may not be aware, The Sleep Advisor is an expert system
>> designed to diagnose the most common sleep problems - insomnias,
> apnea,
>> narcolepsy, hypersomnia, etc., as well as identify a variety of sleep
>> health related issues such as nocturia, bruxism, jet lag, shift work,
>> anxiety disorders, bed and bedroom problems, etc.  The report includes
> a
>> Guidebook to remedies and recommendations the contents of which are
>> tailored to the user's responses and sleep health analysis.
>>
>> We still need a lot of beta testing to perfect the diagnostic engine.
>> In addition, any technical feedback I could get from this list would
> be
>> of great value.
>>
>> Hopefully for your time and efforts you'll receive some value from the
>> reports.
>>
>> With many thanks in advance,
>>
>> Rocky Smolin
>> Beach Access Software
>> http://www.e-z-mrp.com
>> 858-259-4334
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From JRojas at tnco-inc.com  Wed Jun  1 08:31:32 2005
From: JRojas at tnco-inc.com (Joe Rojas)
Date: Wed, 1 Jun 2005 09:31:32 -0400 
Subject: [AccessD] Queries vs In-line SQL
Message-ID: <0CC84C9461AE6445AD5A602001C41C4B05A2FD@mercury.tnco-inc.com>

Is there a performance increase between in-line SQL and queries in Access
2000?

For example:

Going from
CurrentDB.Execute "SELECT * FROM MyTable"

To putting the SELECT statement above in a query?

Thanks!
JR





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From Lambert.Heenan at AIG.com  Wed Jun  1 09:19:55 2005
From: Lambert.Heenan at AIG.com (Heenan, Lambert)
Date: Wed, 1 Jun 2005 10:19:55 -0400 
Subject: [AccessD] More Silly Access 2002 Behavior
Message-ID: <1D7828CDB8350747AFE9D69E0E90DA1F10BB502D@xlivmbx21.aig.com>

X-Posted to Access-L and Access-D

Has anyone yet figured out why Access 2002 often seems to take *for ever* to
save a single line of code changes? For example I just loaded a working
form, added a Stop statement to one event procedure and hit the save button.
After a five minute wait the save operation completed and the mdb was 4
megabytes larger! Fortunately it compacted (often I'll get an error of the
'can I call home to tell MS about this problem' variety).

Lambert (ain't progress wun'erful)



From cfoust at infostatsystems.com  Wed Jun  1 10:10:16 2005
From: cfoust at infostatsystems.com (Charlotte Foust)
Date: Wed, 1 Jun 2005 08:10:16 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Queries vs In-line SQL
Message-ID: <E61FC1D4B1918244905B113C680BEA86873A61@infoserver01.infostat.local>

In 2000 and later, saved queries are optimized and so should execute
faster than on the fly queries, including the sort generated in code.

Charlotte Foust


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From: Joe Rojas [mailto:JRojas at tnco-inc.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, June 01, 2005 6:32 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] Queries vs In-line SQL


Is there a performance increase between in-line SQL and queries in
Access 2000?

For example:

Going from
CurrentDB.Execute "SELECT * FROM MyTable"

To putting the SELECT statement above in a query?

Thanks!
JR





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From cfoust at infostatsystems.com  Wed Jun  1 10:15:09 2005
From: cfoust at infostatsystems.com (Charlotte Foust)
Date: Wed, 1 Jun 2005 08:15:09 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] More Silly Access 2002 Behavior
Message-ID: <E61FC1D4B1918244905B113C680BEA86873A62@infoserver01.infostat.local>

Are you sure that's the only thing going on at that time?  Background
applications can cause this behavior as well.  For example, I use
Junk-Out, and when Outlook is running, I notice occasional pauses in
other applications when it is filtering.  That said, I do notice the
occasional "coffee break" in Access XP, although nothing like you are
describing.

Charlotte Foust


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Sent: Wednesday, June 01, 2005 7:20 AM
To: 'ACCESS-L Email (ACCESS-L at PEACH.EASE.LSOFT.COM)'; 'Access-D Email
(accessd at databaseadvisors.com)'
Subject: [AccessD] More Silly Access 2002 Behavior


X-Posted to Access-L and Access-D

Has anyone yet figured out why Access 2002 often seems to take *for
ever* to save a single line of code changes? For example I just loaded a
working form, added a Stop statement to one event procedure and hit the
save button. After a five minute wait the save operation completed and
the mdb was 4 megabytes larger! Fortunately it compacted (often I'll get
an error of the 'can I call home to tell MS about this problem'
variety).

Lambert (ain't progress wun'erful)

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From MarkBoyd at McBeeAssociates.com  Wed Jun  1 10:53:29 2005
From: MarkBoyd at McBeeAssociates.com (Mark Boyd)
Date: Wed, 1 Jun 2005 11:53:29 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Excel Macro Automation from within Access
Message-ID: <974F830FE464C14E8652F95E24DA663C043F6B@mail03.Mcbassoc.com>

Thanks to everyone who helped with this issue.  I greatly appreciate it.
The only issue that I'm now having is the excel file seems to be created
with Excel 5.0/95.  I'm using Office 2003, and the excel file is created
with ("DoCmd.OutputTo acOutputReport, strXLName, acFormatXLS, "c:\" &
strXLName & ".xls", False").  Why does Access create the file using a
lower version of Office than what is running on the client?  Is there a
way to specify the Office version when exporting the file?

FYI - The macro automation function is below:

Function ExcelMacro(ByVal strFileName As String)
On Error GoTo Err_ExcelMacro
    Dim xlApp         As Excel.Application
    Dim xlWkb         As Excel.Workbook
    
    If fIsAppRunning("Excel") Then
        Set xlApp = GetObject(, "Excel.Application")
    Else
        Set xlApp = CreateObject("Excel.Application")
    End If
       
    xlApp.Application.Visible = True
    Set xlWkb = xlApp.Workbooks.Open(strFileName, 0)
    
    'run Excel macro code here
    '...
    '...
    'end macro code

Exit_ExcelMacro:
On Error Resume Next
    
    Set xlWkb = Nothing
    Set xlApp = Nothing
    Exit Function

Err_ExcelMacro:
    Select Case Err
        Case 0      'insert Errors you wish to ignore here
            Resume Next
        Case Else   'All other errors will trap
            MsgBox Err.Number & " - " & Err.Description, vbCritical,
"Error"
            Resume Exit_ExcelMacro
    End Select
End Function

Thanks again,
Mark Boyd
I/S Supervisor
McBee Associates, Inc.


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gustav Brock
Sent: Thursday, May 26, 2005 5:22 AM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Excel Macro Automation from within Access

Hi Mark

Here is how (as I learned from Mr. Colby). 
It works very reliably:

Function RunExcelMacros( _
  ByVal strFileName As String, _
  ParamArray avarMacros()) As Boolean

Debug.Print "xl ini", Time
  
  On Error GoTo Err_RunExcelMacros

  Static xlApp      As Excel.Application
  Dim xlWkb         As Excel.Workbook
  
  Dim varMacro      As Variant
  Dim booSuccess    As Boolean
  Dim booTerminate  As Boolean

  If Len(strFileName) = 0 Then
    ' Excel shall be closed.
    booTerminate = True
  End If

  If xlApp Is Nothing Then
    If booTerminate = False Then
      Set xlApp = New Excel.Application
    End If
  ElseIf booTerminate = True Then
    xlApp.Quit
    Set xlApp = Nothing
  End If
  
  If booTerminate = False Then
    Set xlWkb = xlApp.Workbooks.Open(FileName:=strFileName,
UpdateLinks:=0, ReadOnly:=True)
  
    ' Make Excel visible (for troubleshooting only) or not.
    xlApp.Visible = False 'True
    
    For Each varMacro In avarMacros()
      If Not Len(varMacro) = 0 Then
  Debug.Print "xl run", Time, varMacro
        booSuccess = xlApp.Run(varMacro)
      End If
    Next varMacro
  Else
    booSuccess = True
  End If
  
  RunExcelMacros = booSuccess

Exit_RunExcelMacros:

  On Error Resume Next
    
  If booTerminate = False Then
    xlWkb.Close SaveChanges:=False
    Set xlWkb = Nothing
  End If
  
Debug.Print "xl end", Time
  Exit Function

Err_RunExcelMacros:
  Select Case Err
    Case 0      'insert Errors you wish to ignore here
      Resume Next
    Case Else   'All other errors will trap
      Beep
      MsgBox "Error: " & Err & ". " & Err.Description, vbCritical +
vbOKOnly, "Error, macro " & varMacro
      Resume Exit_RunExcelMacros
  End Select

End Function

/gustav

>>> MarkBoyd at McBeeAssociates.com 05/25 11:28 pm >>>
I have a need to run Excel macro code from within Access VBA.
Basically, the code logic flows as follows:
1. Export Access report as a new Excel file (DoCmd.OutputTo
acOutputReport, strXLName, acFormatXLS, , True) 2. Run Excel macro (from
within Access VBA) to format the Excel file accordingly.
 
Does anyone have any sample code and/or resources related to this logic?
Any help is greatly appreciated.
 
Thanks,
Mark Boyd
I/S Supervisor
McBee Associates, Inc.

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From donald.a.Mcgillivray at mail.sprint.com  Wed Jun  1 10:54:24 2005
From: donald.a.Mcgillivray at mail.sprint.com (Mcgillivray, Don [ITS])
Date: Wed, 1 Jun 2005 10:54:24 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Queries vs In-line SQL
Message-ID: <EC829B33DF5B5B48A956B7A2E894AA9A051BEC@PLSWB06C.ad.sprint.com>

And (acknowledging that you may have simply banged out a simple SQL
statement for illustrative purposes) "CurrentDB.Execute" works only for
"action" (update, append, delete, etc.) queries.  A select query won't
"execute".

Don

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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Charlotte
Foust
Sent: Wednesday, June 01, 2005 8:10 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Queries vs In-line SQL


In 2000 and later, saved queries are optimized and so should execute
faster than on the fly queries, including the sort generated in code.

Charlotte Foust


-----Original Message-----
From: Joe Rojas [mailto:JRojas at tnco-inc.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, June 01, 2005 6:32 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] Queries vs In-line SQL


Is there a performance increase between in-line SQL and queries in
Access 2000?

For example:

Going from
CurrentDB.Execute "SELECT * FROM MyTable"

To putting the SELECT statement above in a query?

Thanks!
JR



From Lambert.Heenan at AIG.com  Wed Jun  1 11:08:30 2005
From: Lambert.Heenan at AIG.com (Heenan, Lambert)
Date: Wed, 1 Jun 2005 12:08:30 -0400 
Subject: [AccessD] Excel Macro Automation from within Access
Message-ID: <1D7828CDB8350747AFE9D69E0E90DA1F10BB50C1@xlivmbx21.aig.com>

You cannot set the excel type with OutputTo, but with
DoCmd.TransferSpreadsheet you can.

Lambert

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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Mark Boyd
Sent: Wednesday, June 01, 2005 11:53 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Excel Macro Automation from within Access


Thanks to everyone who helped with this issue.  I greatly appreciate it. The
only issue that I'm now having is the excel file seems to be created with
Excel 5.0/95.  I'm using Office 2003, and the excel file is created with
("DoCmd.OutputTo acOutputReport, strXLName, acFormatXLS, "c:\" & strXLName &
".xls", False").  Why does Access create the file using a lower version of
Office than what is running on the client?  Is there a way to specify the
Office version when exporting the file?

FYI - The macro automation function is below:

Function ExcelMacro(ByVal strFileName As String)
On Error GoTo Err_ExcelMacro
    Dim xlApp         As Excel.Application
    Dim xlWkb         As Excel.Workbook
    
    If fIsAppRunning("Excel") Then
        Set xlApp = GetObject(, "Excel.Application")
    Else
        Set xlApp = CreateObject("Excel.Application")
    End If
       
    xlApp.Application.Visible = True
    Set xlWkb = xlApp.Workbooks.Open(strFileName, 0)
    
    'run Excel macro code here
    '...
    '...
    'end macro code

Exit_ExcelMacro:
On Error Resume Next
    
    Set xlWkb = Nothing
    Set xlApp = Nothing
    Exit Function

Err_ExcelMacro:
    Select Case Err
        Case 0      'insert Errors you wish to ignore here
            Resume Next
        Case Else   'All other errors will trap
            MsgBox Err.Number & " - " & Err.Description, vbCritical, "Error"
            Resume Exit_ExcelMacro
    End Select
End Function

Thanks again,
Mark Boyd
I/S Supervisor
McBee Associates, Inc.


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gustav Brock
Sent: Thursday, May 26, 2005 5:22 AM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Excel Macro Automation from within Access

Hi Mark

Here is how (as I learned from Mr. Colby). 
It works very reliably:

Function RunExcelMacros( _
  ByVal strFileName As String, _
  ParamArray avarMacros()) As Boolean

Debug.Print "xl ini", Time
  
  On Error GoTo Err_RunExcelMacros

  Static xlApp      As Excel.Application
  Dim xlWkb         As Excel.Workbook
  
  Dim varMacro      As Variant
  Dim booSuccess    As Boolean
  Dim booTerminate  As Boolean

  If Len(strFileName) = 0 Then
    ' Excel shall be closed.
    booTerminate = True
  End If

  If xlApp Is Nothing Then
    If booTerminate = False Then
      Set xlApp = New Excel.Application
    End If
  ElseIf booTerminate = True Then
    xlApp.Quit
    Set xlApp = Nothing
  End If
  
  If booTerminate = False Then
    Set xlWkb = xlApp.Workbooks.Open(FileName:=strFileName,
UpdateLinks:=0, ReadOnly:=True)
  
    ' Make Excel visible (for troubleshooting only) or not.
    xlApp.Visible = False 'True
    
    For Each varMacro In avarMacros()
      If Not Len(varMacro) = 0 Then
  Debug.Print "xl run", Time, varMacro
        booSuccess = xlApp.Run(varMacro)
      End If
    Next varMacro
  Else
    booSuccess = True
  End If
  
  RunExcelMacros = booSuccess

Exit_RunExcelMacros:

  On Error Resume Next
    
  If booTerminate = False Then
    xlWkb.Close SaveChanges:=False
    Set xlWkb = Nothing
  End If
  
Debug.Print "xl end", Time
  Exit Function

Err_RunExcelMacros:
  Select Case Err
    Case 0      'insert Errors you wish to ignore here
      Resume Next
    Case Else   'All other errors will trap
      Beep
      MsgBox "Error: " & Err & ". " & Err.Description, vbCritical +
vbOKOnly, "Error, macro " & varMacro
      Resume Exit_RunExcelMacros
  End Select

End Function

/gustav

>>> MarkBoyd at McBeeAssociates.com 05/25 11:28 pm >>>
I have a need to run Excel macro code from within Access VBA. Basically, the
code logic flows as follows: 1. Export Access report as a new Excel file
(DoCmd.OutputTo acOutputReport, strXLName, acFormatXLS, , True) 2. Run Excel
macro (from within Access VBA) to format the Excel file accordingly.
 
Does anyone have any sample code and/or resources related to this logic? Any
help is greatly appreciated.
 
Thanks,
Mark Boyd
I/S Supervisor
McBee Associates, Inc.

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From MarkBoyd at McBeeAssociates.com  Wed Jun  1 11:23:33 2005
From: MarkBoyd at McBeeAssociates.com (Mark Boyd)
Date: Wed, 1 Jun 2005 12:23:33 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Excel Macro Automation from within Access
Message-ID: <974F830FE464C14E8652F95E24DA663C043F6C@mail03.Mcbassoc.com>

Thanks Lambert.  I can't use DoCmd.TransferSpreadsheet b/c I need to
send an Access report to Excel, not a table or select query.  I would
use a query, but I need to keep the report headings intact.  The macro
that runs afterward formats the headings and columns appropriately.

Mark Boyd
I/S Supervisor
McBee Associates, Inc.


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Heenan,
Lambert
Sent: Wednesday, June 01, 2005 12:09 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Excel Macro Automation from within Access

You cannot set the excel type with OutputTo, but with
DoCmd.TransferSpreadsheet you can.

Lambert

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Mark Boyd
Sent: Wednesday, June 01, 2005 11:53 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Excel Macro Automation from within Access


Thanks to everyone who helped with this issue.  I greatly appreciate it.
The only issue that I'm now having is the excel file seems to be created
with Excel 5.0/95.  I'm using Office 2003, and the excel file is created
with ("DoCmd.OutputTo acOutputReport, strXLName, acFormatXLS, "c:\" &
strXLName & ".xls", False").  Why does Access create the file using a
lower version of Office than what is running on the client?  Is there a
way to specify the Office version when exporting the file?

FYI - The macro automation function is below:

Function ExcelMacro(ByVal strFileName As String) On Error GoTo
Err_ExcelMacro
    Dim xlApp         As Excel.Application
    Dim xlWkb         As Excel.Workbook
    
    If fIsAppRunning("Excel") Then
        Set xlApp = GetObject(, "Excel.Application")
    Else
        Set xlApp = CreateObject("Excel.Application")
    End If
       
    xlApp.Application.Visible = True
    Set xlWkb = xlApp.Workbooks.Open(strFileName, 0)
    
    'run Excel macro code here
    '...
    '...
    'end macro code

Exit_ExcelMacro:
On Error Resume Next
    
    Set xlWkb = Nothing
    Set xlApp = Nothing
    Exit Function

Err_ExcelMacro:
    Select Case Err
        Case 0      'insert Errors you wish to ignore here
            Resume Next
        Case Else   'All other errors will trap
            MsgBox Err.Number & " - " & Err.Description, vbCritical,
"Error"
            Resume Exit_ExcelMacro
    End Select
End Function

Thanks again,
Mark Boyd
I/S Supervisor
McBee Associates, Inc.


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gustav Brock
Sent: Thursday, May 26, 2005 5:22 AM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Excel Macro Automation from within Access

Hi Mark

Here is how (as I learned from Mr. Colby). 
It works very reliably:

Function RunExcelMacros( _
  ByVal strFileName As String, _
  ParamArray avarMacros()) As Boolean

Debug.Print "xl ini", Time
  
  On Error GoTo Err_RunExcelMacros

  Static xlApp      As Excel.Application
  Dim xlWkb         As Excel.Workbook
  
  Dim varMacro      As Variant
  Dim booSuccess    As Boolean
  Dim booTerminate  As Boolean

  If Len(strFileName) = 0 Then
    ' Excel shall be closed.
    booTerminate = True
  End If

  If xlApp Is Nothing Then
    If booTerminate = False Then
      Set xlApp = New Excel.Application
    End If
  ElseIf booTerminate = True Then
    xlApp.Quit
    Set xlApp = Nothing
  End If
  
  If booTerminate = False Then
    Set xlWkb = xlApp.Workbooks.Open(FileName:=strFileName,
UpdateLinks:=0, ReadOnly:=True)
  
    ' Make Excel visible (for troubleshooting only) or not.
    xlApp.Visible = False 'True
    
    For Each varMacro In avarMacros()
      If Not Len(varMacro) = 0 Then
  Debug.Print "xl run", Time, varMacro
        booSuccess = xlApp.Run(varMacro)
      End If
    Next varMacro
  Else
    booSuccess = True
  End If
  
  RunExcelMacros = booSuccess

Exit_RunExcelMacros:

  On Error Resume Next
    
  If booTerminate = False Then
    xlWkb.Close SaveChanges:=False
    Set xlWkb = Nothing
  End If
  
Debug.Print "xl end", Time
  Exit Function

Err_RunExcelMacros:
  Select Case Err
    Case 0      'insert Errors you wish to ignore here
      Resume Next
    Case Else   'All other errors will trap
      Beep
      MsgBox "Error: " & Err & ". " & Err.Description, vbCritical +
vbOKOnly, "Error, macro " & varMacro
      Resume Exit_RunExcelMacros
  End Select

End Function

/gustav

>>> MarkBoyd at McBeeAssociates.com 05/25 11:28 pm >>>
I have a need to run Excel macro code from within Access VBA. Basically,
the code logic flows as follows: 1. Export Access report as a new Excel
file (DoCmd.OutputTo acOutputReport, strXLName, acFormatXLS, , True) 2.
Run Excel macro (from within Access VBA) to format the Excel file
accordingly.
 
Does anyone have any sample code and/or resources related to this logic?
Any help is greatly appreciated.
 
Thanks,
Mark Boyd
I/S Supervisor
McBee Associates, Inc.

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From Lambert.Heenan at AIG.com  Wed Jun  1 11:43:00 2005
From: Lambert.Heenan at AIG.com (Heenan, Lambert)
Date: Wed, 1 Jun 2005 12:43:00 -0400 
Subject: [AccessD] Excel Macro Automation from within Access
Message-ID: <1D7828CDB8350747AFE9D69E0E90DA1F10BB50DC@xlivmbx21.aig.com>

Can't you just design a query that uses the column headings you want to
display?

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[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Mark Boyd
Sent: Wednesday, June 01, 2005 12:24 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Excel Macro Automation from within Access


Thanks Lambert.  I can't use DoCmd.TransferSpreadsheet b/c I need to send an
Access report to Excel, not a table or select query.  I would use a query,
but I need to keep the report headings intact.  The macro that runs
afterward formats the headings and columns appropriately.

Mark Boyd
I/S Supervisor
McBee Associates, Inc.


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Heenan, Lambert
Sent: Wednesday, June 01, 2005 12:09 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Excel Macro Automation from within Access

You cannot set the excel type with OutputTo, but with
DoCmd.TransferSpreadsheet you can.

Lambert

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[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Mark Boyd
Sent: Wednesday, June 01, 2005 11:53 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Excel Macro Automation from within Access


Thanks to everyone who helped with this issue.  I greatly appreciate it. The
only issue that I'm now having is the excel file seems to be created with
Excel 5.0/95.  I'm using Office 2003, and the excel file is created with
("DoCmd.OutputTo acOutputReport, strXLName, acFormatXLS, "c:\" & strXLName &
".xls", False").  Why does Access create the file using a lower version of
Office than what is running on the client?  Is there a way to specify the
Office version when exporting the file?

FYI - The macro automation function is below:

Function ExcelMacro(ByVal strFileName As String) On Error GoTo
Err_ExcelMacro
    Dim xlApp         As Excel.Application
    Dim xlWkb         As Excel.Workbook
    
    If fIsAppRunning("Excel") Then
        Set xlApp = GetObject(, "Excel.Application")
    Else
        Set xlApp = CreateObject("Excel.Application")
    End If
       
    xlApp.Application.Visible = True
    Set xlWkb = xlApp.Workbooks.Open(strFileName, 0)
    
    'run Excel macro code here
    '...
    '...
    'end macro code

Exit_ExcelMacro:
On Error Resume Next
    
    Set xlWkb = Nothing
    Set xlApp = Nothing
    Exit Function

Err_ExcelMacro:
    Select Case Err
        Case 0      'insert Errors you wish to ignore here
            Resume Next
        Case Else   'All other errors will trap
            MsgBox Err.Number & " - " & Err.Description, vbCritical, "Error"
            Resume Exit_ExcelMacro
    End Select
End Function

Thanks again,
Mark Boyd
I/S Supervisor
McBee Associates, Inc.


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gustav Brock
Sent: Thursday, May 26, 2005 5:22 AM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Excel Macro Automation from within Access

Hi Mark

Here is how (as I learned from Mr. Colby). 
It works very reliably:

Function RunExcelMacros( _
  ByVal strFileName As String, _
  ParamArray avarMacros()) As Boolean

Debug.Print "xl ini", Time
  
  On Error GoTo Err_RunExcelMacros

  Static xlApp      As Excel.Application
  Dim xlWkb         As Excel.Workbook
  
  Dim varMacro      As Variant
  Dim booSuccess    As Boolean
  Dim booTerminate  As Boolean

  If Len(strFileName) = 0 Then
    ' Excel shall be closed.
    booTerminate = True
  End If

  If xlApp Is Nothing Then
    If booTerminate = False Then
      Set xlApp = New Excel.Application
    End If
  ElseIf booTerminate = True Then
    xlApp.Quit
    Set xlApp = Nothing
  End If
  
  If booTerminate = False Then
    Set xlWkb = xlApp.Workbooks.Open(FileName:=strFileName,
UpdateLinks:=0, ReadOnly:=True)
  
    ' Make Excel visible (for troubleshooting only) or not.
    xlApp.Visible = False 'True
    
    For Each varMacro In avarMacros()
      If Not Len(varMacro) = 0 Then
  Debug.Print "xl run", Time, varMacro
        booSuccess = xlApp.Run(varMacro)
      End If
    Next varMacro
  Else
    booSuccess = True
  End If
  
  RunExcelMacros = booSuccess

Exit_RunExcelMacros:

  On Error Resume Next
    
  If booTerminate = False Then
    xlWkb.Close SaveChanges:=False
    Set xlWkb = Nothing
  End If
  
Debug.Print "xl end", Time
  Exit Function

Err_RunExcelMacros:
  Select Case Err
    Case 0      'insert Errors you wish to ignore here
      Resume Next
    Case Else   'All other errors will trap
      Beep
      MsgBox "Error: " & Err & ". " & Err.Description, vbCritical +
vbOKOnly, "Error, macro " & varMacro
      Resume Exit_RunExcelMacros
  End Select

End Function

/gustav

>>> MarkBoyd at McBeeAssociates.com 05/25 11:28 pm >>>
I have a need to run Excel macro code from within Access VBA. Basically, the
code logic flows as follows: 1. Export Access report as a new Excel file
(DoCmd.OutputTo acOutputReport, strXLName, acFormatXLS, , True) 2. Run Excel
macro (from within Access VBA) to format the Excel file accordingly.
 
Does anyone have any sample code and/or resources related to this logic? Any
help is greatly appreciated.
 
Thanks,
Mark Boyd
I/S Supervisor
McBee Associates, Inc.

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From MarkBoyd at McBeeAssociates.com  Wed Jun  1 12:03:14 2005
From: MarkBoyd at McBeeAssociates.com (Mark Boyd)
Date: Wed, 1 Jun 2005 13:03:14 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Excel Macro Automation from within Access
Message-ID: <974F830FE464C14E8652F95E24DA663C043F6E@mail03.Mcbassoc.com>

It isn't the column headings that I need to preserve, but the data in
the Report Header section, such as titles, sub-titles, etc.

Mark Boyd
I/S Supervisor
McBee Associates, Inc.


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Heenan,
Lambert
Sent: Wednesday, June 01, 2005 12:43 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Excel Macro Automation from within Access

Can't you just design a query that uses the column headings you want to
display?

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Mark Boyd
Sent: Wednesday, June 01, 2005 12:24 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Excel Macro Automation from within Access


Thanks Lambert.  I can't use DoCmd.TransferSpreadsheet b/c I need to
send an Access report to Excel, not a table or select query.  I would
use a query, but I need to keep the report headings intact.  The macro
that runs afterward formats the headings and columns appropriately.

Mark Boyd
I/S Supervisor
McBee Associates, Inc.


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Heenan,
Lambert
Sent: Wednesday, June 01, 2005 12:09 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Excel Macro Automation from within Access

You cannot set the excel type with OutputTo, but with
DoCmd.TransferSpreadsheet you can.

Lambert

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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Mark Boyd
Sent: Wednesday, June 01, 2005 11:53 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Excel Macro Automation from within Access


Thanks to everyone who helped with this issue.  I greatly appreciate it.
The only issue that I'm now having is the excel file seems to be created
with Excel 5.0/95.  I'm using Office 2003, and the excel file is created
with ("DoCmd.OutputTo acOutputReport, strXLName, acFormatXLS, "c:\" &
strXLName & ".xls", False").  Why does Access create the file using a
lower version of Office than what is running on the client?  Is there a
way to specify the Office version when exporting the file?

FYI - The macro automation function is below:

Function ExcelMacro(ByVal strFileName As String) On Error GoTo
Err_ExcelMacro
    Dim xlApp         As Excel.Application
    Dim xlWkb         As Excel.Workbook
    
    If fIsAppRunning("Excel") Then
        Set xlApp = GetObject(, "Excel.Application")
    Else
        Set xlApp = CreateObject("Excel.Application")
    End If
       
    xlApp.Application.Visible = True
    Set xlWkb = xlApp.Workbooks.Open(strFileName, 0)
    
    'run Excel macro code here
    '...
    '...
    'end macro code

Exit_ExcelMacro:
On Error Resume Next
    
    Set xlWkb = Nothing
    Set xlApp = Nothing
    Exit Function

Err_ExcelMacro:
    Select Case Err
        Case 0      'insert Errors you wish to ignore here
            Resume Next
        Case Else   'All other errors will trap
            MsgBox Err.Number & " - " & Err.Description, vbCritical,
"Error"
            Resume Exit_ExcelMacro
    End Select
End Function

Thanks again,
Mark Boyd
I/S Supervisor
McBee Associates, Inc.


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gustav Brock
Sent: Thursday, May 26, 2005 5:22 AM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Excel Macro Automation from within Access

Hi Mark

Here is how (as I learned from Mr. Colby). 
It works very reliably:

Function RunExcelMacros( _
  ByVal strFileName As String, _
  ParamArray avarMacros()) As Boolean

Debug.Print "xl ini", Time
  
  On Error GoTo Err_RunExcelMacros

  Static xlApp      As Excel.Application
  Dim xlWkb         As Excel.Workbook
  
  Dim varMacro      As Variant
  Dim booSuccess    As Boolean
  Dim booTerminate  As Boolean

  If Len(strFileName) = 0 Then
    ' Excel shall be closed.
    booTerminate = True
  End If

  If xlApp Is Nothing Then
    If booTerminate = False Then
      Set xlApp = New Excel.Application
    End If
  ElseIf booTerminate = True Then
    xlApp.Quit
    Set xlApp = Nothing
  End If
  
  If booTerminate = False Then
    Set xlWkb = xlApp.Workbooks.Open(FileName:=strFileName,
UpdateLinks:=0, ReadOnly:=True)
  
    ' Make Excel visible (for troubleshooting only) or not.
    xlApp.Visible = False 'True
    
    For Each varMacro In avarMacros()
      If Not Len(varMacro) = 0 Then
  Debug.Print "xl run", Time, varMacro
        booSuccess = xlApp.Run(varMacro)
      End If
    Next varMacro
  Else
    booSuccess = True
  End If
  
  RunExcelMacros = booSuccess

Exit_RunExcelMacros:

  On Error Resume Next
    
  If booTerminate = False Then
    xlWkb.Close SaveChanges:=False
    Set xlWkb = Nothing
  End If
  
Debug.Print "xl end", Time
  Exit Function

Err_RunExcelMacros:
  Select Case Err
    Case 0      'insert Errors you wish to ignore here
      Resume Next
    Case Else   'All other errors will trap
      Beep
      MsgBox "Error: " & Err & ". " & Err.Description, vbCritical +
vbOKOnly, "Error, macro " & varMacro
      Resume Exit_RunExcelMacros
  End Select

End Function

/gustav

>>> MarkBoyd at McBeeAssociates.com 05/25 11:28 pm >>>
I have a need to run Excel macro code from within Access VBA. Basically,
the code logic flows as follows: 1. Export Access report as a new Excel
file (DoCmd.OutputTo acOutputReport, strXLName, acFormatXLS, , True) 2.
Run Excel macro (from within Access VBA) to format the Excel file
accordingly.
 
Does anyone have any sample code and/or resources related to this logic?
Any help is greatly appreciated.
 
Thanks,
Mark Boyd
I/S Supervisor
McBee Associates, Inc.

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From darsant at gmail.com  Wed Jun  1 13:45:08 2005
From: darsant at gmail.com (Darsant Silverstring)
Date: Wed, 1 Jun 2005 13:45:08 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Excel Macro Automation from within Access
In-Reply-To: <974F830FE464C14E8652F95E24DA663C043F6E@mail03.Mcbassoc.com>
References: <974F830FE464C14E8652F95E24DA663C043F6E@mail03.Mcbassoc.com>
Message-ID: <53c8e05a05060111452d4b8d5@mail.gmail.com>

On 6/1/05, Mark Boyd <MarkBoyd at mcbeeassociates.com> wrote:
> It isn't the column headings that I need to preserve, but the data in
> the Report Header section, such as titles, sub-titles, etc.
> 
> Mark Boyd
> I/S Supervisor
> McBee Associates, Inc.

Well, you could take the query that the report is feeding from, and
pipe the data through VBA code to export it to excel.

Err, well, it'd be multiple recordsets depending on what you wanted to
format, but you could use do while loops on each recordset to output
the appropriate heading, then output the data, then total the data,
then move onto the next recordset.

With VBA code linking it to excel you can do whatever formatting you
want, but you're going to have to more softcode the output and modify
the macro that you created to work with the Access interface.

In other words, instead of outputting from report format to excel, you
can output from the module itself. More work but allows you 100%
accessability and formating options vs having to correct the
auto-formatting done by report-->excel procedure.

-- 
Darsant Silverstring 

"Peace cannot be kept by force. It can only be achieved by understanding."
-Albert Einstein


From MarkBoyd at McBeeAssociates.com  Wed Jun  1 14:10:15 2005
From: MarkBoyd at McBeeAssociates.com (Mark Boyd)
Date: Wed, 1 Jun 2005 15:10:15 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Excel Macro Automation from within Access
Message-ID: <974F830FE464C14E8652F95E24DA663C043F72@mail03.Mcbassoc.com>

Thanks Darsant.  This option seems feasible, but sounds like a lot of
coding to get it to work by tomorrow.  
I'll have to use a band-aid until I can look into your approach when I
have more time.

Thanks,
Mark Boyd
I/S Supervisor
McBee Associates, Inc.


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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Darsant
Silverstring
Sent: Wednesday, June 01, 2005 2:45 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Excel Macro Automation from within Access

On 6/1/05, Mark Boyd <MarkBoyd at mcbeeassociates.com> wrote:
> It isn't the column headings that I need to preserve, but the data in 
> the Report Header section, such as titles, sub-titles, etc.
> 
> Mark Boyd
> I/S Supervisor
> McBee Associates, Inc.

Well, you could take the query that the report is feeding from, and pipe
the data through VBA code to export it to excel.

Err, well, it'd be multiple recordsets depending on what you wanted to
format, but you could use do while loops on each recordset to output the
appropriate heading, then output the data, then total the data, then
move onto the next recordset.

With VBA code linking it to excel you can do whatever formatting you
want, but you're going to have to more softcode the output and modify
the macro that you created to work with the Access interface.

In other words, instead of outputting from report format to excel, you
can output from the module itself. More work but allows you 100%
accessability and formating options vs having to correct the
auto-formatting done by report-->excel procedure.

--
Darsant Silverstring 

"Peace cannot be kept by force. It can only be achieved by
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From Jim.Hale at FleetPride.com  Wed Jun  1 14:40:18 2005
From: Jim.Hale at FleetPride.com (Hale, Jim)
Date: Wed, 1 Jun 2005 14:40:18 -0500 
Subject: [AccessD] Excel Macro Automation from within Access
Message-ID: <6A6AA9DF57E4F046BDA1E273BDDB677233761D@corp-es01.fleetpride.com>

Are you saving the file using code? Check out Excel's SaveAs method. It
allows a fileformat parameter. I think xlWorkbookNormal is the correct one.

Jim Hale

-----Original Message-----
From: Mark Boyd [mailto:MarkBoyd at mcbeeassociates.com]
Sent: Wednesday, June 01, 2005 10:53 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Excel Macro Automation from within Access


Thanks to everyone who helped with this issue.  I greatly appreciate it.
The only issue that I'm now having is the excel file seems to be created
with Excel 5.0/95.  I'm using Office 2003, and the excel file is created
with ("DoCmd.OutputTo acOutputReport, strXLName, acFormatXLS, "c:\" &
strXLName & ".xls", False").  Why does Access create the file using a
lower version of Office than what is running on the client?  Is there a
way to specify the Office version when exporting the file?

FYI - The macro automation function is below:

Function ExcelMacro(ByVal strFileName As String)
On Error GoTo Err_ExcelMacro
    Dim xlApp         As Excel.Application
    Dim xlWkb         As Excel.Workbook
    
    If fIsAppRunning("Excel") Then
        Set xlApp = GetObject(, "Excel.Application")
    Else
        Set xlApp = CreateObject("Excel.Application")
    End If
       
    xlApp.Application.Visible = True
    Set xlWkb = xlApp.Workbooks.Open(strFileName, 0)
    
    'run Excel macro code here
    '...
    '...
    'end macro code

Exit_ExcelMacro:
On Error Resume Next
    
    Set xlWkb = Nothing
    Set xlApp = Nothing
    Exit Function

Err_ExcelMacro:
    Select Case Err
        Case 0      'insert Errors you wish to ignore here
            Resume Next
        Case Else   'All other errors will trap
            MsgBox Err.Number & " - " & Err.Description, vbCritical,
"Error"
            Resume Exit_ExcelMacro
    End Select
End Function

Thanks again,
Mark Boyd
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From MarkBoyd at McBeeAssociates.com  Wed Jun  1 17:21:27 2005
From: MarkBoyd at McBeeAssociates.com (Mark Boyd)
Date: Wed, 1 Jun 2005 18:21:27 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Excel Macro Automation from within Access
Message-ID: <974F830FE464C14E8652F95E24DA663C043F78@mail03.Mcbassoc.com>

Thanks Jim, this is pointing me in the right direction.

The export process is as follows:
1. Export report to Excel
2. Format report w/ macro
3. Save formatting changes
4. Attach file to email message

When using the SaveAs method, I'm prompted to overwrite the existing
excel file (the one just formatted).  Am I missing something in regard
to the properties of the SaveAs method, that will allow me to save the
existing, formatted file?  If I select Yes to overwrite the existing
file, all of the macro formats are lost.


Mark Boyd
I/S Supervisor
McBee Associates, Inc.


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Hale, Jim
Sent: Wednesday, June 01, 2005 3:40 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Excel Macro Automation from within Access

Are you saving the file using code? Check out Excel's SaveAs method. It
allows a fileformat parameter. I think xlWorkbookNormal is the correct
one.

Jim Hale

-----Original Message-----
From: Mark Boyd [mailto:MarkBoyd at mcbeeassociates.com]
Sent: Wednesday, June 01, 2005 10:53 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Excel Macro Automation from within Access


Thanks to everyone who helped with this issue.  I greatly appreciate it.
The only issue that I'm now having is the excel file seems to be created
with Excel 5.0/95.  I'm using Office 2003, and the excel file is created
with ("DoCmd.OutputTo acOutputReport, strXLName, acFormatXLS, "c:\" &
strXLName & ".xls", False").  Why does Access create the file using a
lower version of Office than what is running on the client?  Is there a
way to specify the Office version when exporting the file?

FYI - The macro automation function is below:

Function ExcelMacro(ByVal strFileName As String) On Error GoTo
Err_ExcelMacro
    Dim xlApp         As Excel.Application
    Dim xlWkb         As Excel.Workbook
    
    If fIsAppRunning("Excel") Then
        Set xlApp = GetObject(, "Excel.Application")
    Else
        Set xlApp = CreateObject("Excel.Application")
    End If
       
    xlApp.Application.Visible = True
    Set xlWkb = xlApp.Workbooks.Open(strFileName, 0)
    
    'run Excel macro code here
    '...
    '...
    'end macro code

Exit_ExcelMacro:
On Error Resume Next
    
    Set xlWkb = Nothing
    Set xlApp = Nothing
    Exit Function

Err_ExcelMacro:
    Select Case Err
        Case 0      'insert Errors you wish to ignore here
            Resume Next
        Case Else   'All other errors will trap
            MsgBox Err.Number & " - " & Err.Description, vbCritical,
"Error"
            Resume Exit_ExcelMacro
    End Select
End Function

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McBee Associates, Inc.


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From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com  Wed Jun  1 17:29:23 2005
From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (John W. Colby)
Date: Wed, 01 Jun 2005 18:29:23 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Any MapPoint programmers out there?
Message-ID: <002901c566f9$5c6c79f0$6c7aa8c0@ColbyM6805>

I'm getting ready to do some pretty serious MapPoint stuff and wondered if
anyone else out there is doing MapPoint?

John W. Colby
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From DWUTKA at marlow.com  Wed Jun  1 17:42:17 2005
From: DWUTKA at marlow.com (DWUTKA at marlow.com)
Date: Wed, 1 Jun 2005 17:42:17 -0500 
Subject: [AccessD] Any MapPoint programmers out there?
Message-ID: <123701F54509D9119A4F00D0B747349016D61C@main2.marlow.com>

Mike Mattys does Mappoint.

Drew

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Sent: Wednesday, June 01, 2005 5:29 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] Any MapPoint programmers out there?


I'm getting ready to do some pretty serious MapPoint stuff and wondered if
anyone else out there is doing MapPoint?

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From fhtapia at gmail.com  Wed Jun  1 19:46:48 2005
From: fhtapia at gmail.com (Francisco Tapia)
Date: Wed, 1 Jun 2005 17:46:48 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Error Loading Project?
Message-ID: <b874372a0506011746414bbda8@mail.gmail.com>

Recently I've been plauged by this error:

I have 2 Access ADP's , the primary is the dev copy and I write in
this copy all my development code, once compiled, and tested I
"EXPORT" the new form or modified form to the Production .adp copy 
this file used to be on the network, but due to the more recent
network errors that I was plauged w/ I decided to simply create a
folder on my pc called "build" and export to that folder instead,
everything had been working great, and in fact each copy compiles w/o
errors... but if I export from the dev on drive C to the build on
drive C I end up w/ an error on the build copy as "Error Loading
Project, disk or network error, continue loading?" if you click ok I
find that the module is empty.  If I then (while in the build copy),
IMPORT the same form, then I get a new Form1 classic import, I delete
the corrupted form and rename Form1 to Form and all is well again...
why can I not export anymore?


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From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com  Wed Jun  1 19:56:44 2005
From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (John W. Colby)
Date: Wed, 01 Jun 2005 20:56:44 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Error Loading Project?
In-Reply-To: <b874372a0506011746414bbda8@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <002c01c5670d$f64a08d0$6c7aa8c0@ColbyM6805>

Do you happen to have 2K and XP on the same machine?

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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Francisco Tapia
Sent: Wednesday, June 01, 2005 8:47 PM
To: access-l at peach.ease.lsoft.com; Access Developers discussion and problem
solving
Subject: [AccessD] Error Loading Project?


Recently I've been plauged by this error:

I have 2 Access ADP's , the primary is the dev copy and I write in this copy
all my development code, once compiled, and tested I "EXPORT" the new form
or modified form to the Production .adp copy 
this file used to be on the network, but due to the more recent network
errors that I was plauged w/ I decided to simply create a folder on my pc
called "build" and export to that folder instead, everything had been
working great, and in fact each copy compiles w/o errors... but if I export
from the dev on drive C to the build on drive C I end up w/ an error on the
build copy as "Error Loading Project, disk or network error, continue
loading?" if you click ok I find that the module is empty.  If I then (while
in the build copy), IMPORT the same form, then I get a new Form1 classic
import, I delete the corrupted form and rename Form1 to Form and all is well
again... why can I not export anymore?


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From mcaro at bigpond.net.au  Wed Jun  1 21:17:41 2005
From: mcaro at bigpond.net.au (Martin Caro)
Date: Thu, 2 Jun 2005 12:17:41 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] Changing Criteria
Message-ID: <006901c56719$419def80$0100000a@MITSERVER>

Hi Folks

Is it possible to do the following:

I have a query where one of the fields references a text box containing a Filter Code to pick up the required selection criteria for the query. It works fine for Case 1 to 6 but what is the syntax to make Case 7 and 8 work?

Private Sub HotelFilter_AfterUpdate()
    Select Case HotelFilter
        Case Is = 1
            FilterCode = "FH"
        Case Is = 2
            FilterCode = "FHI"
        Case Is = 3
            FilterCode = "LH"
        Case Is = 4
            FilterCode = "B"
        Case Is = 5
            FilterCode = "L"
        Case Is = 6
            FilterCode = "E"
        Case Is = 7
            FilterCode =      Display only those records that do not have a code ie Code is Null
        Case Is = 8
            FilterCode =      Display all records ie no filter
       End Select
    Me.Refresh


From bchacc at san.rr.com  Wed Jun  1 22:16:35 2005
From: bchacc at san.rr.com (Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software)
Date: Wed, 1 Jun 2005 20:16:35 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Changing Criteria
References: <006901c56719$419def80$0100000a@MITSERVER>
Message-ID: <043b01c56721$7b889ee0$6501a8c0@HAL9004>

Martin:

I think case 7 would be IsNull.  You can try it.  Case 8 would be 
Me.Filter="": Me.FilterOn=False.  I think.

Rocky

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Martin Caro" <mcaro at bigpond.net.au>
To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving" 
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Wednesday, June 01, 2005 7:17 PM
Subject: [AccessD] Changing Criteria


Hi Folks

Is it possible to do the following:

I have a query where one of the fields references a text box containing a 
Filter Code to pick up the required selection criteria for the query. It 
works fine for Case 1 to 6 but what is the syntax to make Case 7 and 8 work?

Private Sub HotelFilter_AfterUpdate()
    Select Case HotelFilter
        Case Is = 1
            FilterCode = "FH"
        Case Is = 2
            FilterCode = "FHI"
        Case Is = 3
            FilterCode = "LH"
        Case Is = 4
            FilterCode = "B"
        Case Is = 5
            FilterCode = "L"
        Case Is = 6
            FilterCode = "E"
        Case Is = 7
            FilterCode =      Display only those records that do not have a 
code ie Code is Null
        Case Is = 8
            FilterCode =      Display all records ie no filter
       End Select
    Me.Refresh
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From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com  Wed Jun  1 22:41:31 2005
From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (John W. Colby)
Date: Wed, 01 Jun 2005 23:41:31 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Height and width of usable screen
Message-ID: <002d01c56724$fa56c000$6c7aa8c0@ColbyM6805>

How do you determine the height and width (in pixels) of the USABLE area of
the screen, i.e. the screen dimensions minus any toolbars?

I am working with MapPoint and am able to instantiate it, and display it,
but I am now trying to set it to display full screen and I don't find any
"maximize" method, rather it seems you have to set the top/left/height/width
(in pixels).

0/0/1280/7xx sets it correctly for my laptop, but the 7XX is the issue.  If
I make it too large it simply places some part of the application off the
screen.  Not good.

John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com 

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From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com  Wed Jun  1 22:48:32 2005
From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (John W. Colby)
Date: Wed, 01 Jun 2005 23:48:32 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Height and width of usable screen
In-Reply-To: <002d01c56724$fa56c000$6c7aa8c0@ColbyM6805>
Message-ID: <002e01c56725$f28bb460$6c7aa8c0@ColbyM6805>

Never mind, I found it (WindowState).

John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com 

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-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of John W. Colby
Sent: Wednesday, June 01, 2005 11:42 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] Height and width of usable screen


How do you determine the height and width (in pixels) of the USABLE area of
the screen, i.e. the screen dimensions minus any toolbars?

I am working with MapPoint and am able to instantiate it, and display it,
but I am now trying to set it to display full screen and I don't find any
"maximize" method, rather it seems you have to set the top/left/height/width
(in pixels).

0/0/1280/7xx sets it correctly for my laptop, but the 7XX is the issue.  If
I make it too large it simply places some part of the application off the
screen.  Not good.

John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com 

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From jmhecht at earthlink.net  Wed Jun  1 23:37:44 2005
From: jmhecht at earthlink.net (Joe Hecht)
Date: Wed, 1 Jun 2005 21:37:44 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Invitations DB Design Ideas
Message-ID: <001f01c5672c$d20f09b0$6401a8c0@laptop1>

So my niece got engaged and I figure I better get my DB going soon.
 
Right now the database is one table,
 
These are typed in to readable and not names with spaces etc:
 
I rec num
1st Person first Name
1st person last name
2cd person first name
2cd person last name
Address fields
Adults Invitation Represents
Children Invitation represents
Contact phone
Memo
Source (Bride/Groom/Family/friend?)
Invited Y/N
Coming y/n
Gift received Y/N
Note Sent Y/N
 
 
 
 Looking for ideas to normalize this
 
OK wise guys, I know no wedding is normal but...
 
 
 
Joe Hecht
Los Angeles CA
 


From bchacc at san.rr.com  Thu Jun  2 00:08:27 2005
From: bchacc at san.rr.com (Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software)
Date: Wed, 1 Jun 2005 22:08:27 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Invitations DB Design Ideas
References: <001f01c5672c$d20f09b0$6401a8c0@laptop1>
Message-ID: <048601c56731$1c5d6b70$6501a8c0@HAL9004>

Will there only be two persons' names at most?  If not, then you can put the 
names in a name table with a foreign key to the Invitation table's primary 
key.

Source could also be a table with a FK in the Invitation pointing to the 
source table's PK.

Seems like maybe more trouble than it's worth for this app, though.

Rocky

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Joe Hecht" <jmhecht at earthlink.net>
To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'" 
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Wednesday, June 01, 2005 9:37 PM
Subject: [AccessD] Invitations DB Design Ideas


> So my niece got engaged and I figure I better get my DB going soon.
>
> Right now the database is one table,
>
> These are typed in to readable and not names with spaces etc:
>
> I rec num
> 1st Person first Name
> 1st person last name
> 2cd person first name
> 2cd person last name
> Address fields
> Adults Invitation Represents
> Children Invitation represents
> Contact phone
> Memo
> Source (Bride/Groom/Family/friend?)
> Invited Y/N
> Coming y/n
> Gift received Y/N
> Note Sent Y/N
>
>
>
> Looking for ideas to normalize this
>
> OK wise guys, I know no wedding is normal but...
>
>
>
> Joe Hecht
> Los Angeles CA
>
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From adtp at touchtelindia.net  Thu Jun  2 00:56:35 2005
From: adtp at touchtelindia.net (A.D.Tejpal)
Date: Thu, 2 Jun 2005 11:26:35 +0530
Subject: [AccessD] Changing Criteria
References: <006901c56719$419def80$0100000a@MITSERVER>
Message-ID: <00d601c56738$027cccd0$aa1865cb@winxp>

Martin,

    You wish to incorporate criteria options in a query (to be picked up from a form) for -
    (a) Null values only
    (b) All values (including Nulls)
    These two involve non-string expressions if direct comparison with existing field in the table is attempted. The situation does not directly afford an appropriate string that could straightaway be used in the manner applicable to case statements 1 to 6.

    For getting the desired results, following course of action is suggested. HotelCode is the name of text type field in table T_HotelCode.

    (a) Select query may be modified as shown below. It would  mean that the value of FilterCode on form F_HotelFilter will get tested against  Nz([HotelCode],"") in the query.
    (b) Code in form's module may be modified as shown below. It provides for -
        Case Is = 7
            FilterCode = ""
        Case Is = 8
            FilterCode = "ALL"

Best wishes,
A.D.Tejpal
--------------

Select Query
====================================
SELECT T_HotelCode.* 
FROM T_HotelCode 
WHERE (((Nz([HotelCode],""))=IIf([Forms]![F_HotelFilter]![FilterCode]="ALL",Nz([HotelCode],""),[Forms]![F_HotelFilter]![FilterCode])));
====================================

Code in Form's module
====================================
Private Sub HotelFilter_AfterUpdate()
    Select Case HotelFilter
        Case Is = 1
            FilterCode = "FH"
        Case Is = 2
            FilterCode = "FHI"
        Case Is = 3
            FilterCode = "LH"
        Case Is = 4
            FilterCode = "B"
        Case Is = 5
            FilterCode = "L"
        Case Is = 6
            FilterCode = "E"
        Case Is = 7
            FilterCode = ""
        Case Is = 8
            FilterCode = "ALL"
       End Select
    Me.Refresh
End Sub
====================================

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Martin Caro 
  To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving 
  Sent: Thursday, June 02, 2005 07:47
  Subject: [AccessD] Changing Criteria


  Hi Folks

  Is it possible to do the following:

  I have a query where one of the fields references a text box containing a Filter Code to pick up the required selection criteria for the query. It works fine for Case 1 to 6 but what is the syntax to make Case 7 and 8 work?

  Private Sub HotelFilter_AfterUpdate()
      Select Case HotelFilter
          Case Is = 1
              FilterCode = "FH"
          Case Is = 2
              FilterCode = "FHI"
          Case Is = 3
              FilterCode = "LH"
          Case Is = 4
              FilterCode = "B"
          Case Is = 5
              FilterCode = "L"
          Case Is = 6
              FilterCode = "E"
          Case Is = 7
              FilterCode =      Display only those records that do not have a code ie Code is Null
          Case Is = 8
              FilterCode =      Display all records ie no filter
         End Select
      Me.Refresh



From jmhecht at earthlink.net  Thu Jun  2 01:24:49 2005
From: jmhecht at earthlink.net (Joe Hecht)
Date: Wed, 1 Jun 2005 23:24:49 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Invitations DB Design Ideas
In-Reply-To: <048601c56731$1c5d6b70$6501a8c0@HAL9004>
Message-ID: <002701c5673b$c854a8d0$6401a8c0@laptop1>

Rocky,

I can not see three names on an invitation.

Worst case would be Mr. Rocky Smolin and Ms. Mrs. Smolin.

Maybe and kids?

Joe Hecht
Los Angeles CA

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Rocky Smolin -
Beach Access Software
Sent: Wednesday, June 01, 2005 10:08 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Invitations DB Design Ideas

Will there only be two persons' names at most?  If not, then you can put the

names in a name table with a foreign key to the Invitation table's primary 
key.

Source could also be a table with a FK in the Invitation pointing to the 
source table's PK.

Seems like maybe more trouble than it's worth for this app, though.

Rocky

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Joe Hecht" <jmhecht at earthlink.net>
To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'" 
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Wednesday, June 01, 2005 9:37 PM
Subject: [AccessD] Invitations DB Design Ideas


> So my niece got engaged and I figure I better get my DB going soon.
>
> Right now the database is one table,
>
> These are typed in to readable and not names with spaces etc:
>
> I rec num
> 1st Person first Name
> 1st person last name
> 2cd person first name
> 2cd person last name
> Address fields
> Adults Invitation Represents
> Children Invitation represents
> Contact phone
> Memo
> Source (Bride/Groom/Family/friend?)
> Invited Y/N
> Coming y/n
> Gift received Y/N
> Note Sent Y/N
>
>
>
> Looking for ideas to normalize this
>
> OK wise guys, I know no wedding is normal but...
>
>
>
> Joe Hecht
> Los Angeles CA
>
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From paul.hartland at isharp.co.uk  Thu Jun  2 02:00:09 2005
From: paul.hartland at isharp.co.uk (Paul Hartland (ISHARP))
Date: Thu, 2 Jun 2005 08:00:09 +0100
Subject: [AccessD] Any MapPoint programmers out there?
In-Reply-To: <002901c566f9$5c6c79f0$6c7aa8c0@ColbyM6805>
Message-ID: <!~!UENERkVCMDkAAQACAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAC4AAAAAAAAAclrM129q6km1GlSfRwF8CgEAFKerAD79REu7GTojEo2iDgAAAAddkgAAEAAAAE1D+HSZVqRBtiNI3uOyvA4BAAAAAA==@isharp.co.uk>

I am also getting ready to use MapPoint with VB6 and SQL Server 2000, mainly
want to use it to calculate distances that our employees are from our
clients, but may also want to be able to create maps/directions etc....

So if anyone knows any good sites or can help me with getting started I
would be grateful....

Thanks in advance for any help on this....

Paul Hartland
 

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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of John W. Colby
Sent: 01 June 2005 23:29
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] Any MapPoint programmers out there?

I'm getting ready to do some pretty serious MapPoint stuff and wondered if
anyone else out there is doing MapPoint?

John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com 

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From michael.mattys at verizon.net  Thu Jun  2 04:45:16 2005
From: michael.mattys at verizon.net (Michael R Mattys)
Date: Thu, 02 Jun 2005 05:45:16 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Any MapPoint programmers out there?
References: <!~!UENERkVCMDkAAQACAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAC4AAAAAAAAAclrM129q6km1GlSfRwF8CgEAFKerAD79REu7GTojEo2iDgAAAAddkgAAEAAAAE1D+HSZVqRBtiNI3uOyvA4BAAAAAA==@isharp.co.uk>
Message-ID: <040001c56757$c9d0d7d0$0202a8c0@default>

I have been programming in MapPoint for over 2 years
using both Access and VB6. I have several apps created
that I sell, including a full routing and scheduling app.
Haven't had time to update my website since I started.

My efforts were started at Eric Frost's www.mp2kmag.com,
where you'll find articles and discussion.

I frequently answer questions on Newsgroups:
Microsoft.Public.MapPoint and Microsoft.Public.Street-Trips.
----

Michael R. Mattys
Mattys MapLib for Microsoft MapPoint
http://www.mattysconsulting.com



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From: "Paul Hartland (ISHARP)" <paul.hartland at isharp.co.uk>
To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'"
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Thursday, June 02, 2005 3:00 AM
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Any MapPoint programmers out there?


> I am also getting ready to use MapPoint with VB6 and SQL Server 2000,
mainly
> want to use it to calculate distances that our employees are from our
> clients, but may also want to be able to create maps/directions etc....
>
> So if anyone knows any good sites or can help me with getting started I
> would be grateful....
>
> Thanks in advance for any help on this....
>
> Paul Hartland
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of John W. Colby
> Sent: 01 June 2005 23:29
> To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
> Subject: [AccessD] Any MapPoint programmers out there?
>
> I'm getting ready to do some pretty serious MapPoint stuff and wondered if
> anyone else out there is doing MapPoint?
>
> John W. Colby
> www.ColbyConsulting.com
>
> Contribute your unused CPU cycles to a good cause:
> http://folding.stanford.edu/
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From paul.hartland at isharp.co.uk  Thu Jun  2 05:05:57 2005
From: paul.hartland at isharp.co.uk (Paul Hartland (ISHARP))
Date: Thu, 2 Jun 2005 11:05:57 +0100
Subject: [AccessD] Any MapPoint programmers out there?
In-Reply-To: <040001c56757$c9d0d7d0$0202a8c0@default>
Message-ID: <!~!UENERkVCMDkAAQACAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAC4AAAAAAAAAclrM129q6km1GlSfRwF8CgEAFKerAD79REu7GTojEo2iDgAAAAddkgAAEAAAAPBuRs/Rcq5GsHYgXMgK6bkBAAAAAA==@isharp.co.uk>

Initially all I want to be able to do is pass a clients postcode and several
+ employee postcodes into MapPoint and return the miles from client for
every employee.... 

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Michael R Mattys
Sent: 02 June 2005 10:45
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Any MapPoint programmers out there?

I have been programming in MapPoint for over 2 years using both Access and
VB6. I have several apps created that I sell, including a full routing and
scheduling app.
Haven't had time to update my website since I started.

My efforts were started at Eric Frost's www.mp2kmag.com, where you'll find
articles and discussion.

I frequently answer questions on Newsgroups:
Microsoft.Public.MapPoint and Microsoft.Public.Street-Trips.
----

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Mattys MapLib for Microsoft MapPoint
http://www.mattysconsulting.com



----- Original Message -----
From: "Paul Hartland (ISHARP)" <paul.hartland at isharp.co.uk>
To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'"
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Thursday, June 02, 2005 3:00 AM
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Any MapPoint programmers out there?


> I am also getting ready to use MapPoint with VB6 and SQL Server 2000,
mainly
> want to use it to calculate distances that our employees are from our 
> clients, but may also want to be able to create maps/directions etc....
>
> So if anyone knows any good sites or can help me with getting started 
> I would be grateful....
>
> Thanks in advance for any help on this....
>
> Paul Hartland
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of John W. 
> Colby
> Sent: 01 June 2005 23:29
> To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
> Subject: [AccessD] Any MapPoint programmers out there?
>
> I'm getting ready to do some pretty serious MapPoint stuff and 
> wondered if anyone else out there is doing MapPoint?
>
> John W. Colby
> www.ColbyConsulting.com
>
> Contribute your unused CPU cycles to a good cause:
> http://folding.stanford.edu/
>
>
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From pedro at plex.nl  Thu Jun  2 12:10:16 2005
From: pedro at plex.nl (pedro at plex.nl)
Date: Thu, 02 Jun 2005 12:10:16 (MET DST)
Subject: [AccessD] Any ArcGis vba programmers out there?
Message-ID: <200506021010.j52AAGGB021861@mailhostC.plex.net>

Hello Group,

John W. Colby question about mappoint triggered me to ask the same about ArcGis.

I have a script in Avenue that i need to have in VBA for ArcGis. Who can help me with this.

Pedro Janssen




From michael.mattys at verizon.net  Thu Jun  2 05:24:48 2005
From: michael.mattys at verizon.net (Michael R Mattys)
Date: Thu, 02 Jun 2005 06:24:48 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Any MapPoint programmers out there?
References: <!~!UENERkVCMDkAAQACAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAC4AAAAAAAAAclrM129q6km1GlSfRwF8CgEAFKerAD79REu7GTojEo2iDgAAAAddkgAAEAAAAPBuRs/Rcq5GsHYgXMgK6bkBAAAAAA==@isharp.co.uk>
Message-ID: <042401c5675d$506a2440$0202a8c0@default>

Since you've said 'postcodes', I'll assume you're in the UK
(Not that it makes a difference at the moment.)
You'll be looking to use the .DistanceTo function

Try here:
http://groups-beta.google.com/groups?hl=en&q=mappoint+distanceto

----

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Mattys MapLib for Microsoft MapPoint
http://www.mattysconsulting.com



----- Original Message -----
From: "Paul Hartland (ISHARP)" <paul.hartland at isharp.co.uk>
To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'"
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Thursday, June 02, 2005 6:05 AM
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Any MapPoint programmers out there?


> Initially all I want to be able to do is pass a clients postcode and
several
> + employee postcodes into MapPoint and return the miles from client for
> every employee....
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Michael R
Mattys
> Sent: 02 June 2005 10:45
> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] Any MapPoint programmers out there?
>
> I have been programming in MapPoint for over 2 years using both Access and
> VB6. I have several apps created that I sell, including a full routing and
> scheduling app.
> Haven't had time to update my website since I started.
>
> My efforts were started at Eric Frost's www.mp2kmag.com, where you'll find
> articles and discussion.
>
> I frequently answer questions on Newsgroups:
> Microsoft.Public.MapPoint and Microsoft.Public.Street-Trips.
> ----
>
> Michael R. Mattys
> Mattys MapLib for Microsoft MapPoint
> http://www.mattysconsulting.com
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Paul Hartland (ISHARP)" <paul.hartland at isharp.co.uk>
> To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'"
> <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
> Sent: Thursday, June 02, 2005 3:00 AM
> Subject: RE: [AccessD] Any MapPoint programmers out there?
>
>
> > I am also getting ready to use MapPoint with VB6 and SQL Server 2000,
> mainly
> > want to use it to calculate distances that our employees are from our
> > clients, but may also want to be able to create maps/directions etc....
> >
> > So if anyone knows any good sites or can help me with getting started
> > I would be grateful....
> >
> > Thanks in advance for any help on this....
> >
> > Paul Hartland
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> > [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of John W.
> > Colby
> > Sent: 01 June 2005 23:29
> > To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
> > Subject: [AccessD] Any MapPoint programmers out there?
> >
> > I'm getting ready to do some pretty serious MapPoint stuff and
> > wondered if anyone else out there is doing MapPoint?
> >
> > John W. Colby
> > www.ColbyConsulting.com
> >
> > Contribute your unused CPU cycles to a good cause:
> > http://folding.stanford.edu/
> >
> >
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From paul.hartland at isharp.co.uk  Thu Jun  2 05:31:34 2005
From: paul.hartland at isharp.co.uk (Paul Hartland (ISHARP))
Date: Thu, 2 Jun 2005 11:31:34 +0100
Subject: [AccessD] Any MapPoint programmers out there?
In-Reply-To: <042401c5675d$506a2440$0202a8c0@default>
Message-ID: <!~!UENERkVCMDkAAQACAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAC4AAAAAAAAAclrM129q6km1GlSfRwF8CgEAFKerAD79REu7GTojEo2iDgAAAAddkgAAEAAAAKuFljGximZKinnoSIyhyV8BAAAAAA==@isharp.co.uk>

Thanks, I haven't actually installed our evaluation edition yet but plan on
doing so today or tomorrow so I will look into that... 

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Michael R Mattys
Sent: 02 June 2005 11:25
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Any MapPoint programmers out there?

Since you've said 'postcodes', I'll assume you're in the UK (Not that it
makes a difference at the moment.) You'll be looking to use the .DistanceTo
function

Try here:
http://groups-beta.google.com/groups?hl=en&q=mappoint+distanceto

----

Michael R. Mattys
Mattys MapLib for Microsoft MapPoint
http://www.mattysconsulting.com



----- Original Message -----
From: "Paul Hartland (ISHARP)" <paul.hartland at isharp.co.uk>
To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'"
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Thursday, June 02, 2005 6:05 AM
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Any MapPoint programmers out there?


> Initially all I want to be able to do is pass a clients postcode and
several
> + employee postcodes into MapPoint and return the miles from client 
> + for
> every employee....
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Michael R
Mattys
> Sent: 02 June 2005 10:45
> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] Any MapPoint programmers out there?
>
> I have been programming in MapPoint for over 2 years using both Access 
> and VB6. I have several apps created that I sell, including a full 
> routing and scheduling app.
> Haven't had time to update my website since I started.
>
> My efforts were started at Eric Frost's www.mp2kmag.com, where you'll 
> find articles and discussion.
>
> I frequently answer questions on Newsgroups:
> Microsoft.Public.MapPoint and Microsoft.Public.Street-Trips.
> ----
>
> Michael R. Mattys
> Mattys MapLib for Microsoft MapPoint
> http://www.mattysconsulting.com
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Paul Hartland (ISHARP)" <paul.hartland at isharp.co.uk>
> To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'"
> <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
> Sent: Thursday, June 02, 2005 3:00 AM
> Subject: RE: [AccessD] Any MapPoint programmers out there?
>
>
> > I am also getting ready to use MapPoint with VB6 and SQL Server 
> > 2000,
> mainly
> > want to use it to calculate distances that our employees are from 
> > our clients, but may also want to be able to create maps/directions
etc....
> >
> > So if anyone knows any good sites or can help me with getting 
> > started I would be grateful....
> >
> > Thanks in advance for any help on this....
> >
> > Paul Hartland
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> > [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of John W.
> > Colby
> > Sent: 01 June 2005 23:29
> > To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
> > Subject: [AccessD] Any MapPoint programmers out there?
> >
> > I'm getting ready to do some pretty serious MapPoint stuff and 
> > wondered if anyone else out there is doing MapPoint?
> >
> > John W. Colby
> > www.ColbyConsulting.com
> >
> > Contribute your unused CPU cycles to a good cause:
> > http://folding.stanford.edu/
> >
> >
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From mcaro at bigpond.net.au  Thu Jun  2 05:59:43 2005
From: mcaro at bigpond.net.au (Martin Caro)
Date: Thu, 2 Jun 2005 20:59:43 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] Changing Criteria
References: <006901c56719$419def80$0100000a@MITSERVER>
	<00d601c56738$027cccd0$aa1865cb@winxp>
Message-ID: <008301c56762$2e9a0970$0100000a@MITSERVER>

Thanks A.D. & Rocky for your replies

Managed to get ADs code working although needed to make a slight mod to the
WHERE line first

WHERE
(((Nz([HotelCode],""))=IIf([Forms]![F_HotelFilter]![FilterCode]="ALL",Nz([Ho
telCode],""),[Forms]![F_HotelFilter]![FilterCode])));

Modified to:

WHERE
(((Nz([HotelCode]))=IIf([Forms]![F_HotelFilter]![FilterCode]="ALL",Nz([Hotel
Code]),[Forms]![F_HotelFilter]![FilterCode])));

Thanks again

Martin

----- Original Message -----
From: "A.D.Tejpal" <adtp at touchtelindia.net>
To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving"
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Thursday, June 02, 2005 3:56 PM
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Changing Criteria


Martin,

    You wish to incorporate criteria options in a query (to be picked up
from a form) for -
    (a) Null values only
    (b) All values (including Nulls)
    These two involve non-string expressions if direct comparison with
existing field in the table is attempted. The situation does not directly
afford an appropriate string that could straightaway be used in the manner
applicable to case statements 1 to 6.

    For getting the desired results, following course of action is
suggested. HotelCode is the name of text type field in table T_HotelCode.

    (a) Select query may be modified as shown below. It would  mean that the
value of FilterCode on form F_HotelFilter will get tested against
Nz([HotelCode],"") in the query.
    (b) Code in form's module may be modified as shown below. It provides
for -
        Case Is = 7
            FilterCode = ""
        Case Is = 8
            FilterCode = "ALL"

Best wishes,
A.D.Tejpal
--------------

Select Query
====================================
SELECT T_HotelCode.*
FROM T_HotelCode
WHERE
(((Nz([HotelCode],""))=IIf([Forms]![F_HotelFilter]![FilterCode]="ALL",Nz([Ho
telCode],""),[Forms]![F_HotelFilter]![FilterCode])));
====================================

Code in Form's module
====================================
Private Sub HotelFilter_AfterUpdate()
    Select Case HotelFilter
        Case Is = 1
            FilterCode = "FH"
        Case Is = 2
            FilterCode = "FHI"
        Case Is = 3
            FilterCode = "LH"
        Case Is = 4
            FilterCode = "B"
        Case Is = 5
            FilterCode = "L"
        Case Is = 6
            FilterCode = "E"
        Case Is = 7
            FilterCode = ""
        Case Is = 8
            FilterCode = "ALL"
       End Select
    Me.Refresh
End Sub
====================================

  ----- Original Message -----
  From: Martin Caro
  To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
  Sent: Thursday, June 02, 2005 07:47
  Subject: [AccessD] Changing Criteria


  Hi Folks

  Is it possible to do the following:

  I have a query where one of the fields references a text box containing a
Filter Code to pick up the required selection criteria for the query. It
works fine for Case 1 to 6 but what is the syntax to make Case 7 and 8 work?

  Private Sub HotelFilter_AfterUpdate()
      Select Case HotelFilter
          Case Is = 1
              FilterCode = "FH"
          Case Is = 2
              FilterCode = "FHI"
          Case Is = 3
              FilterCode = "LH"
          Case Is = 4
              FilterCode = "B"
          Case Is = 5
              FilterCode = "L"
          Case Is = 6
              FilterCode = "E"
          Case Is = 7
              FilterCode =      Display only those records that do not have
a code ie Code is Null
          Case Is = 8
              FilterCode =      Display all records ie no filter
         End Select
      Me.Refresh

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From accessd666 at yahoo.com  Thu Jun  2 06:13:55 2005
From: accessd666 at yahoo.com (Sad Der)
Date: Thu, 2 Jun 2005 04:13:55 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [AccessD] Check if array is initialized
Message-ID: <20050602111355.24662.qmail@web31603.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Hi group,

one of our programmers came to me with a question
regarding an error when the UBOUND() of an array was
retrieved. The error occures when an array has been
DIMmed, without specifing the size, but not REDIMmed.

In the sample below I've created a simple example.
When the function is called a byref array is to be
filled with values. However the line:
  for lngCntr = 0 to UBOUND(r_alngMyArray)
Will always fill since it hasn't been ReDimmed.

I suggested a workaround:
1 - use the function IsInitialized() and check if the
function returns -1. If so the array isnt't
intitialized.

However, is there an official way of handling this
error/problem/occurence?

Thnx

Regards,

SD
--------------------
EXAMPLE
--------------------

Main
  Dim alngValues() as long
  Call RetrieveSomething(alngValues())
End Main

Public Function RetrieveSomething(byref
r_alngMyArray() as Long)
dim lngCntr as long 

for lngCntr = 0 to UBOUND(r_alngMyArray)
  Redim PRESERVE r_alngMyArray(lngCntr)
  r_alngMyArray(lngCntr) = "THIS DOES NOT WORK!"
next lngCntr

End Function

------------------
WORKAROUND
------------------
Function IsInitialized(byref r_alngInitialized) as
Long
 On Error Goto error_not_initialized
 
  IsInitialized = UBOUND(r_alngInitialized)

Exit Function
Goto error_not_initialized
  IsInitialized = -1
End Function


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From Gustav at cactus.dk  Thu Jun  2 07:13:28 2005
From: Gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Thu, 02 Jun 2005 14:13:28 +0200
Subject: [AccessD] Check if array is initialized
Message-ID: <s29f1429.051@cactus.dk>

Hi SD

We use this function to check that:

Public Function IsReDimmed(ByRef varArrayToCheck) As Boolean

' Checks a dynamic array to see if it has been ReDim'med.
' This is to prevent errors before applying LBound() or UBound().
'
' Returns False if varArrayToCheck is dynamic and
' never has been ReDim'med or just has been erased.
'
' 2001-08-11. Cactus Data ApS, CPH. Gustav Brock.

  Dim booIsReDimmed As Boolean
  
  On Error GoTo Err_IsReDimmed
   
  If IsArray(varArrayToCheck) = True Then
    ' Check if varArrayToCheck is ReDim'med.
    ' LBound() will fail if varArrayToCheck not has been ReDim'med.
    booIsReDimmed = LBound(varArrayToCheck) Imp True
    ' No error raised; varArrayToCheck is ReDim'med.
  Else
    ' varArrayToCheck is not an array.
  End If
  
  IsReDimmed = booIsReDimmed
  
Exit_IsReDimmed:
  Exit Function
  
Err_IsReDimmed:
  Select Case Err
    Case 9
      ' Subscript (array index) out of range.
      ' varArrayToCheck is dynamic and not ReDim'med.
    Case Else
      ' Other error.
  End Select
    ' Exit function returning False.
  Resume Exit_IsReDimmed

End Function

/gustav


>>> accessd666 at yahoo.com 06/02 1:13 pm >>>
Hi group,

one of our programmers came to me with a question
regarding an error when the UBOUND() of an array was
retrieved. The error occures when an array has been
DIMmed, without specifing the size, but not REDIMmed.

In the sample below I've created a simple example.
When the function is called a byref array is to be
filled with values. However the line:
  for lngCntr = 0 to UBOUND(r_alngMyArray)
Will always fill since it hasn't been ReDimmed.

I suggested a workaround:
1 - use the function IsInitialized() and check if the
function returns -1. If so the array isnt't
intitialized.

However, is there an official way of handling this
error/problem/occurence?

Thnx

Regards,

SD
--------------------
EXAMPLE
--------------------

Main
  Dim alngValues() as long
  Call RetrieveSomething(alngValues())
End Main

Public Function RetrieveSomething(byref
r_alngMyArray() as Long)
dim lngCntr as long 

for lngCntr = 0 to UBOUND(r_alngMyArray)
  Redim PRESERVE r_alngMyArray(lngCntr)
  r_alngMyArray(lngCntr) = "THIS DOES NOT WORK!"
next lngCntr

End Function

------------------
WORKAROUND
------------------
Function IsInitialized(byref r_alngInitialized) as
Long
 On Error Goto error_not_initialized
 
  IsInitialized = UBOUND(r_alngInitialized)

Exit Function
Goto error_not_initialized
  IsInitialized = -1
End Function



From adtp at touchtelindia.net  Thu Jun  2 07:21:37 2005
From: adtp at touchtelindia.net (A.D.Tejpal)
Date: Thu, 2 Jun 2005 17:51:37 +0530
Subject: [AccessD] Changing Criteria
References: <006901c56719$419def80$0100000a@MITSERVER><00d601c56738$027cccd0
	$aa1865cb@winxp> <008301c56762$2e9a0970$0100000a@MITSERVER>
Message-ID: <006901c5676d$bed36b70$c91865cb@winxp>

    You are most welcome Martin! 

    Two clarifications -

    (a) It is seen that your existing code uses the following syntax for Case statement
        Case Is = 1  ' (and so on)
        This can be replaced by
        Case 1    ' (and so on)

    (b) Is it correct that the only modification carried out in Where clause of the suggested SQL statement is by way of omitting the second argument in Nz() function, replacing Nz([HotelCode],"") by  Nz([HotelCode]). Was there any compulsion to do so? Was there any problem with the original one? Although the second argument is optional, and if not supplied, zero length string is assumed as the default value, it is considered a desirable practice to provide this argument explicitly.

Best wishes,
A.D.Tejpal
--------------

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Martin Caro 
  To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving 
  Sent: Thursday, June 02, 2005 16:29
  Subject: Re: [AccessD] Changing Criteria


  Thanks A.D. & Rocky for your replies

  Managed to get ADs code working although needed to make a slight mod to the
  WHERE line first

  WHERE
  (((Nz([HotelCode],""))=IIf([Forms]![F_HotelFilter]![FilterCode]="ALL",Nz([Ho
  telCode],""),[Forms]![F_HotelFilter]![FilterCode])));

  Modified to:

  WHERE
  (((Nz([HotelCode]))=IIf([Forms]![F_HotelFilter]![FilterCode]="ALL",Nz([Hotel
  Code]),[Forms]![F_HotelFilter]![FilterCode])));

  Thanks again

  Martin

  ----- Original Message -----
  From: "A.D.Tejpal" <adtp at touchtelindia.net>
  To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving"
  <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
  Sent: Thursday, June 02, 2005 3:56 PM
  Subject: Re: [AccessD] Changing Criteria


  Martin,

      You wish to incorporate criteria options in a query (to be picked up
  from a form) for -
      (a) Null values only
      (b) All values (including Nulls)
      These two involve non-string expressions if direct comparison with
  existing field in the table is attempted. The situation does not directly
  afford an appropriate string that could straightaway be used in the manner
  applicable to case statements 1 to 6.

      For getting the desired results, following course of action is
  suggested. HotelCode is the name of text type field in table T_HotelCode.

      (a) Select query may be modified as shown below. It would  mean that the
  value of FilterCode on form F_HotelFilter will get tested against
  Nz([HotelCode],"") in the query.
      (b) Code in form's module may be modified as shown below. It provides
  for -
          Case Is = 7
              FilterCode = ""
          Case Is = 8
              FilterCode = "ALL"

  Best wishes,
  A.D.Tejpal
  --------------

  Select Query
  ====================================
  SELECT T_HotelCode.*
  FROM T_HotelCode
  WHERE
  (((Nz([HotelCode],""))=IIf([Forms]![F_HotelFilter]![FilterCode]="ALL",Nz([Ho
  telCode],""),[Forms]![F_HotelFilter]![FilterCode])));
  ====================================

  Code in Form's module
  ====================================
  Private Sub HotelFilter_AfterUpdate()
      Select Case HotelFilter
          Case Is = 1
              FilterCode = "FH"
          Case Is = 2
              FilterCode = "FHI"
          Case Is = 3
              FilterCode = "LH"
          Case Is = 4
              FilterCode = "B"
          Case Is = 5
              FilterCode = "L"
          Case Is = 6
              FilterCode = "E"
          Case Is = 7
              FilterCode = ""
          Case Is = 8
              FilterCode = "ALL"
         End Select
      Me.Refresh
  End Sub
  ====================================

    ----- Original Message -----
    From: Martin Caro
    To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
    Sent: Thursday, June 02, 2005 07:47
    Subject: [AccessD] Changing Criteria


    Hi Folks

    Is it possible to do the following:

    I have a query where one of the fields references a text box containing a
  Filter Code to pick up the required selection criteria for the query. It
  works fine for Case 1 to 6 but what is the syntax to make Case 7 and 8 work?

    Private Sub HotelFilter_AfterUpdate()
        Select Case HotelFilter
            Case Is = 1
                FilterCode = "FH"
            Case Is = 2
                FilterCode = "FHI"
            Case Is = 3
                FilterCode = "LH"
            Case Is = 4
                FilterCode = "B"
            Case Is = 5
                FilterCode = "L"
            Case Is = 6
                FilterCode = "E"
            Case Is = 7
                FilterCode =      Display only those records that do not have
  a code ie Code is Null
            Case Is = 8
                FilterCode =      Display all records ie no filter
           End Select
        Me.Refresh


From accessd666 at yahoo.com  Thu Jun  2 07:50:51 2005
From: accessd666 at yahoo.com (Sad Der)
Date: Thu, 2 Jun 2005 05:50:51 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [AccessD] Check if array is initialized
In-Reply-To: <s29f1429.051@cactus.dk>
Message-ID: <20050602125051.75972.qmail@web31605.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Thnx Gustav. 
It's more or less the same. You've got some extra
checks (is it an array). 
I'll send it through...and the developers can make the
decission. HAHA and I can shoot them down if their
decission doesn't work HAHA. I'm getting DILBERT
visions :-)

thnx again.

SD

--- Gustav Brock <Gustav at cactus.dk> wrote:

> Hi SD
> 
> We use this function to check that:
> 
> Public Function IsReDimmed(ByRef varArrayToCheck) As
> Boolean
> 
> ' Checks a dynamic array to see if it has been
> ReDim'med.
> ' This is to prevent errors before applying LBound()
> or UBound().
> '
> ' Returns False if varArrayToCheck is dynamic and
> ' never has been ReDim'med or just has been erased.
> '
> ' 2001-08-11. Cactus Data ApS, CPH. Gustav Brock.
> 
>   Dim booIsReDimmed As Boolean
>   
>   On Error GoTo Err_IsReDimmed
>    
>   If IsArray(varArrayToCheck) = True Then
>     ' Check if varArrayToCheck is ReDim'med.
>     ' LBound() will fail if varArrayToCheck not has
> been ReDim'med.
>     booIsReDimmed = LBound(varArrayToCheck) Imp True
>     ' No error raised; varArrayToCheck is ReDim'med.
>   Else
>     ' varArrayToCheck is not an array.
>   End If
>   
>   IsReDimmed = booIsReDimmed
>   
> Exit_IsReDimmed:
>   Exit Function
>   
> Err_IsReDimmed:
>   Select Case Err
>     Case 9
>       ' Subscript (array index) out of range.
>       ' varArrayToCheck is dynamic and not
> ReDim'med.
>     Case Else
>       ' Other error.
>   End Select
>     ' Exit function returning False.
>   Resume Exit_IsReDimmed
> 
> End Function
> 
> /gustav
> 
> 
> >>> accessd666 at yahoo.com 06/02 1:13 pm >>>
> Hi group,
> 
> one of our programmers came to me with a question
> regarding an error when the UBOUND() of an array was
> retrieved. The error occures when an array has been
> DIMmed, without specifing the size, but not
> REDIMmed.
> 
> In the sample below I've created a simple example.
> When the function is called a byref array is to be
> filled with values. However the line:
>   for lngCntr = 0 to UBOUND(r_alngMyArray)
> Will always fill since it hasn't been ReDimmed.
> 
> I suggested a workaround:
> 1 - use the function IsInitialized() and check if
> the
> function returns -1. If so the array isnt't
> intitialized.
> 
> However, is there an official way of handling this
> error/problem/occurence?
> 
> Thnx
> 
> Regards,
> 
> SD
> --------------------
> EXAMPLE
> --------------------
> 
> Main
>   Dim alngValues() as long
>   Call RetrieveSomething(alngValues())
> End Main
> 
> Public Function RetrieveSomething(byref
> r_alngMyArray() as Long)
> dim lngCntr as long 
> 
> for lngCntr = 0 to UBOUND(r_alngMyArray)
>   Redim PRESERVE r_alngMyArray(lngCntr)
>   r_alngMyArray(lngCntr) = "THIS DOES NOT WORK!"
> next lngCntr
> 
> End Function
> 
> ------------------
> WORKAROUND
> ------------------
> Function IsInitialized(byref r_alngInitialized) as
> Long
>  On Error Goto error_not_initialized
>  
>   IsInitialized = UBOUND(r_alngInitialized)
> 
> Exit Function
> Goto error_not_initialized
>   IsInitialized = -1
> End Function
> 
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From bheid at appdevgrp.com  Thu Jun  2 08:05:34 2005
From: bheid at appdevgrp.com (Bobby Heid)
Date: Thu, 2 Jun 2005 09:05:34 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] SELECT IN using pw protected db.
In-Reply-To: <916187228923D311A6FE00A0CC3FAA30BC6A5A@ADGSERVER>
Message-ID: <916187228923D311A6FE00A0CC3FAA30ABEBCB@ADGSERVER>

Thanks to all for your input.  I had to get this stuff out fast so I ended
up just opening the external database with a database variable and then just
querying against that database.

I will probably go back and revisit this.

Sorry for the delay in getting back to you all, I took a few days off.

Bobby

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[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of MartyConnelly
Sent: Friday, May 27, 2005 1:59 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] SELECT IN using pw protected db.


hope this helps,

Set rs = cn.Execute("SELECT * FROM [ODBC;DSN={DSN Name};uid={User 
Name};pwd ={Password};database={Name of Database}].{Table in Database} 
WHERE FALSE")

One of these syntaxes may work

select * from customer in [ 'C:\Program Files\Microsoft 
Office\Office\Samples\Copy of Northwind.mdb';UID="Admin";PWD=""]

select * from customers in 'C:\Program Files\Microsoft 
Office\Office\Samples\Copy of Northwind.mdb'[uid="a"];

Bobby Heid wrote:

>Hey,
>
>I've done this before but can not seem to remember how at the moment.
>
>When I use:
>SELECT * 
>	FROM Version IN ';PWD=somepassword;DATABASE=D:\Wrap\WrapMrg\Merge
>5.04\Hudson.mdb;'
>
>I get a "Disk or Network error" error message.
>
>What am I doing wrong?
>
>Thanks,
>Bobby
>
>  
>

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From bchacc at san.rr.com  Thu Jun  2 08:09:53 2005
From: bchacc at san.rr.com (Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software)
Date: Thu, 2 Jun 2005 06:09:53 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Invitations DB Design Ideas
References: <002701c5673b$c854a8d0$6401a8c0@laptop1>
Message-ID: <006201c56774$5dc5ab70$6901a8c0@HAL9004>

Joe:

Actually, although it's absolutely no fun, it would seem that since it could 
be done with one flat file that a spreadsheet would be more quicker and 
easier if all you want to do is manage the data.

Rocky

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From: "Joe Hecht" <jmhecht at earthlink.net>
To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'" 
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Wednesday, June 01, 2005 11:24 PM
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Invitations DB Design Ideas


> Rocky,
>
> I can not see three names on an invitation.
>
> Worst case would be Mr. Rocky Smolin and Ms. Mrs. Smolin.
>
> Maybe and kids?
>
> Joe Hecht
> Los Angeles CA
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Rocky Smolin -
> Beach Access Software
> Sent: Wednesday, June 01, 2005 10:08 PM
> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] Invitations DB Design Ideas
>
> Will there only be two persons' names at most?  If not, then you can put 
> the
>
> names in a name table with a foreign key to the Invitation table's primary
> key.
>
> Source could also be a table with a FK in the Invitation pointing to the
> source table's PK.
>
> Seems like maybe more trouble than it's worth for this app, though.
>
> Rocky
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Joe Hecht" <jmhecht at earthlink.net>
> To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'"
> <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, June 01, 2005 9:37 PM
> Subject: [AccessD] Invitations DB Design Ideas
>
>
>> So my niece got engaged and I figure I better get my DB going soon.
>>
>> Right now the database is one table,
>>
>> These are typed in to readable and not names with spaces etc:
>>
>> I rec num
>> 1st Person first Name
>> 1st person last name
>> 2cd person first name
>> 2cd person last name
>> Address fields
>> Adults Invitation Represents
>> Children Invitation represents
>> Contact phone
>> Memo
>> Source (Bride/Groom/Family/friend?)
>> Invited Y/N
>> Coming y/n
>> Gift received Y/N
>> Note Sent Y/N
>>
>>
>>
>> Looking for ideas to normalize this
>>
>> OK wise guys, I know no wedding is normal but...
>>
>>
>>
>> Joe Hecht
>> Los Angeles CA
>>
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From john at winhaven.net  Thu Jun  2 08:16:09 2005
From: john at winhaven.net (John Bartow)
Date: Thu, 2 Jun 2005 08:16:09 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Any ArcGis vba programmers out there?
In-Reply-To: <200506021010.j52AAGGB021861@mailhostC.plex.net>
Message-ID: <200506021316.j52DGAIJ222210@pimout3-ext.prodigy.net>

Pedro,
I can't help you directly.

There are usually ESRI User Groups in most areas where their products have a
user base of any size. However, I would start with the ESRI Regional staff.
I have found that they are very helpful in this type of endeavor.

Good luck
John B.


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[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of pedro at plex.nl
Sent: Thursday, June 02, 2005 12:10 PM
To: AccessD at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [AccessD] Any ArcGis vba programmers out there?

Hello Group,

John W. Colby question about mappoint triggered me to ask the same about
ArcGis.

I have a script in Avenue that i need to have in VBA for ArcGis. Who can
help me with this.

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From JRojas at tnco-inc.com  Thu Jun  2 08:19:01 2005
From: JRojas at tnco-inc.com (Joe Rojas)
Date: Thu, 2 Jun 2005 09:19:01 -0400 
Subject: [AccessD] Check if array is initialized
Message-ID: <0CC84C9461AE6445AD5A602001C41C4B05A302@mercury.tnco-inc.com>

What I have done is dim the variable and use the IsArray() function is see
if it's an array. If not then I know I the array is not initialized.

Using your example:

Main
  Dim alngValues
  Call RetrieveSomething(alngValues)
End Main

Public Function RetrieveSomething(byref r_alngMyArray() as Long)
dim lngCntr as long

If Not IsArray(r_alngMyArray) Then
	ReDim r_alngMyArray(0)
End If

for lngCntr = 0 to UBOUND(r_alngMyArray)
  Redim PRESERVE r_alngMyArray(lngCntr)
  r_alngMyArray(lngCntr) = "THIS DOES NOT WORK!"
next lngCntr

End Function



Thanks,
Joe Rojas
IT Manager
TNCO, Inc.
781-447-6661 x7506
jrojas at tnco-inc.com

-----Original Message-----
From: Sad Der [mailto:accessd666 at yahoo.com]
Sent: Thursday, June 02, 2005 7:14 AM
To: Acces User Group
Subject: [AccessD] Check if array is initialized

Hi group,

one of our programmers came to me with a question
regarding an error when the UBOUND() of an array was
retrieved. The error occures when an array has been
DIMmed, without specifing the size, but not REDIMmed.

In the sample below I've created a simple example.
When the function is called a byref array is to be
filled with values. However the line:
  for lngCntr = 0 to UBOUND(r_alngMyArray)
Will always fill since it hasn't been ReDimmed.

I suggested a workaround:
1 - use the function IsInitialized() and check if the
function returns -1. If so the array isnt't
intitialized.

However, is there an official way of handling this
error/problem/occurence?

Thnx

Regards,

SD
--------------------
EXAMPLE
--------------------

Main
  Dim alngValues() as long
  Call RetrieveSomething(alngValues())
End Main

Public Function RetrieveSomething(byref
r_alngMyArray() as Long)
dim lngCntr as long

for lngCntr = 0 to UBOUND(r_alngMyArray)
  Redim PRESERVE r_alngMyArray(lngCntr)
  r_alngMyArray(lngCntr) = "THIS DOES NOT WORK!"
next lngCntr

End Function

------------------
WORKAROUND
------------------
Function IsInitialized(byref r_alngInitialized) as
Long
 On Error Goto error_not_initialized

  IsInitialized = UBOUND(r_alngInitialized)

Exit Function
Goto error_not_initialized
  IsInitialized = -1
End Function


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From Jim.Hale at FleetPride.com  Thu Jun  2 09:09:44 2005
From: Jim.Hale at FleetPride.com (Hale, Jim)
Date: Thu, 2 Jun 2005 09:09:44 -0500 
Subject: [AccessD] Excel Macro Automation from within Access
Message-ID: <6A6AA9DF57E4F046BDA1E273BDDB6772337629@corp-es01.fleetpride.com>

I think the sequence you are looking for is similar to this:

Sub rpt_to_excel()
Dim appExcel As Excel.Application, strpathname As String
Dim strpathnew As String, strReport As String

strpathname = "C:\test.xls"
strpathnew = "C:\test2.xls"
strReport = "rptInvsummary"
DoCmd.OutputTo acOutputReport, strReport, acFormatXLS, strpathname

 Set appExcel = New Excel.Application
 
 'format your report
    With appExcel
        .Workbooks.Open strpathname, 0
        .Visible = True 'just to watch the sheet
        .Range("A1:G1").Select
        .Selection.Font.Bold = True
        .Selection.Font.Name = "Arial"
        .Selection.Font.Size = 12
        .ActiveWorkbook.SaveAs Filename:=strpathnew, FileFormat:=xlNormal
    End With
     appExcel.Quit
    Set appExcel = Nothing
End Sub

This opens the file you output and saves it as a current version workbook
under a new name. 

As you debug be aware of leaving orphan instances of Excel in memory. You
can tell if any exist by placing the following script in notepad and running
it:

Dim objXL
	Dim strMessage
	
	On Error Resume Next
	
	'	Try to grab a running instance of
	'	Excel...
	Set objXL = GetObject(, "Excel.Application")
	
	'	What did we find?..
	If Not TypeName(objXL) = "Empty" Then
		strMessage = "Excel Running."
	Else
		strMessage = "Excel Not Running."
	End If
	
	'	Feedback to user...
	MsgBox strMessage, vbInformation, "Excel Status"
	
	'	Make the Excel instance visible 
	'	if we found one
	if strMessage = "Excel Running." then _
				objXL.Visible = true 

-----Original Message-----
From: Mark Boyd [mailto:MarkBoyd at mcbeeassociates.com]
Sent: Wednesday, June 01, 2005 5:21 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Excel Macro Automation from within Access


Thanks Jim, this is pointing me in the right direction.

The export process is as follows:
1. Export report to Excel
2. Format report w/ macro
3. Save formatting changes
4. Attach file to email message

When using the SaveAs method, I'm prompted to overwrite the existing
excel file (the one just formatted).  Am I missing something in regard
to the properties of the SaveAs method, that will allow me to save the
existing, formatted file?  If I select Yes to overwrite the existing
file, all of the macro formats are lost.


Mark Boyd
I/S Supervisor
McBee Associates, Inc.


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Sent: Wednesday, June 01, 2005 3:40 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Excel Macro Automation from within Access

Are you saving the file using code? Check out Excel's SaveAs method. It
allows a fileformat parameter. I think xlWorkbookNormal is the correct
one.

Jim Hale


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From adtp at touchtelindia.net  Thu Jun  2 09:34:32 2005
From: adtp at touchtelindia.net (A.D.Tejpal)
Date: Thu, 2 Jun 2005 20:04:32 +0530
Subject: [AccessD] Check if array is initialized
References: <20050602111355.24662.qmail@web31603.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <005601c56780$75aaf4a0$1c1865cb@winxp>

SD,

    Function Fn_IsInitialized() given below is another simplified  way of getting the desired information. It will return true only if the argument is an array which has been re-dimmed. The following sub-routine illustrates the use of this function. If statement (A) is enabled, the immediate window will show True, otherwise False.

Sub P_Test_IfArrayInitialized()
    Dim StrArray() As String
    ReDim StrArray(5)     ' (A)
    Debug.Print Fn_IsInitialized(StrArray)
End Sub

Best wishes,
A.D.Tejpal
--------------

========================================
Function Fn_IsInitialized(ByVal varArray _
                                        As Variant) As Boolean
    Dim Rtv As Variant    
    On Error Resume Next
    Fn_IsInitialized = Not IsError(Rtv = UBound(varArray))
End Function
========================================

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Sad Der 
  To: Acces User Group 
  Sent: Thursday, June 02, 2005 16:43
  Subject: [AccessD] Check if array is initialized


  Hi group,

  one of our programmers came to me with a question
  regarding an error when the UBOUND() of an array was
  retrieved. The error occures when an array has been
  DIMmed, without specifing the size, but not REDIMmed.

  In the sample below I've created a simple example.
  When the function is called a byref array is to be
  filled with values. However the line:
    for lngCntr = 0 to UBOUND(r_alngMyArray)
  Will always fill since it hasn't been ReDimmed.

  I suggested a workaround:
  1 - use the function IsInitialized() and check if the
  function returns -1. If so the array isnt't
  intitialized.

  However, is there an official way of handling this
  error/problem/occurence?

  Thnx

  Regards,

  SD
  --------------------
  EXAMPLE
  --------------------

  Main
    Dim alngValues() as long
    Call RetrieveSomething(alngValues())
  End Main

  Public Function RetrieveSomething(byref
  r_alngMyArray() as Long)
  dim lngCntr as long 

  for lngCntr = 0 to UBOUND(r_alngMyArray)
    Redim PRESERVE r_alngMyArray(lngCntr)
    r_alngMyArray(lngCntr) = "THIS DOES NOT WORK!"
  next lngCntr

  End Function

  ------------------
  WORKAROUND
  ------------------
  Function IsInitialized(byref r_alngInitialized) as
  Long
   On Error Goto error_not_initialized
   
    IsInitialized = UBOUND(r_alngInitialized)

  Exit Function
  Goto error_not_initialized
    IsInitialized = -1
  End Function



From jmhecht at earthlink.net  Thu Jun  2 10:28:39 2005
From: jmhecht at earthlink.net (Joe Hecht)
Date: Thu, 2 Jun 2005 08:28:39 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Invitations DB Design Ideas
In-Reply-To: <048601c56731$1c5d6b70$6501a8c0@HAL9004>
Message-ID: <000801c56787$c0e339d0$6401a8c0@laptop1>

Need something to do to keep my hand in

Joe Hecht
Los Angeles CA

<snip>
Seems like maybe more trouble than it's worth for this app, though.

Rocky

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From cfoust at infostatsystems.com  Thu Jun  2 10:42:09 2005
From: cfoust at infostatsystems.com (Charlotte Foust)
Date: Thu, 2 Jun 2005 08:42:09 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Error Loading Project?
Message-ID: <E61FC1D4B1918244905B113C680BEA86873A69@infoserver01.infostat.local>

If you have 2k and XP on your either machine, make sure 2k is patched to
SP3 before you do any exporting.  OXP installed a VBE6.dll that breaks
the version in 2k, causing that blasted network connection error to be
thrown erroneously.  Take a look at this MSKB article:
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;304548

Charlotte Foust


-----Original Message-----
From: Francisco Tapia [mailto:fhtapia at gmail.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, June 01, 2005 5:47 PM
To: access-l at peach.ease.lsoft.com; Access Developers discussion and
problem solving
Subject: [AccessD] Error Loading Project?


Recently I've been plauged by this error:

I have 2 Access ADP's , the primary is the dev copy and I write in this
copy all my development code, once compiled, and tested I "EXPORT" the
new form or modified form to the Production .adp copy 
this file used to be on the network, but due to the more recent network
errors that I was plauged w/ I decided to simply create a folder on my
pc called "build" and export to that folder instead, everything had been
working great, and in fact each copy compiles w/o errors... but if I
export from the dev on drive C to the build on drive C I end up w/ an
error on the build copy as "Error Loading Project, disk or network
error, continue loading?" if you click ok I find that the module is
empty.  If I then (while in the build copy), IMPORT the same form, then
I get a new Form1 classic import, I delete the corrupted form and rename
Form1 to Form and all is well again... why can I not export anymore?


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From fhtapia at gmail.com  Thu Jun  2 10:56:03 2005
From: fhtapia at gmail.com (Francisco Tapia)
Date: Thu, 2 Jun 2005 08:56:03 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Error Loading Project?
In-Reply-To: <002c01c5670d$f64a08d0$6c7aa8c0@ColbyM6805>
References: <b874372a0506011746414bbda8@mail.gmail.com>
	<002c01c5670d$f64a08d0$6c7aa8c0@ColbyM6805>
Message-ID: <b874372a05060208561e25dca5@mail.gmail.com>

Not at this time, I Just ordered Access 2003, currenlty I have Office
97 & 2000 w/ Outlook  2003.

On 6/1/05, John W. Colby <jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com> wrote:
> Do you happen to have 2K and XP on the same machine?

> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Francisco Tapia
> Sent: Wednesday, June 01, 2005 8:47 PM
> To: access-l at peach.ease.lsoft.com; Access Developers discussion and problem
> solving
> Subject: [AccessD] Error Loading Project?
> 
> 
> Recently I've been plauged by this error:
> 
> I have 2 Access ADP's , the primary is the dev copy and I write in this copy
> all my development code, once compiled, and tested I "EXPORT" the new form
> or modified form to the Production .adp copy
> this file used to be on the network, but due to the more recent network
> errors that I was plauged w/ I decided to simply create a folder on my pc
> called "build" and export to that folder instead, everything had been
> working great, and in fact each copy compiles w/o errors... but if I export
> from the dev on drive C to the build on drive C I end up w/ an error on the
> build copy as "Error Loading Project, disk or network error, continue
> loading?" if you click ok I find that the module is empty.  If I then (while
> in the build copy), IMPORT the same form, then I get a new Form1 classic
> import, I delete the corrupted form and rename Form1 to Form and all is well
> again... why can I not export anymore?
> 
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From fhtapia at gmail.com  Thu Jun  2 10:56:59 2005
From: fhtapia at gmail.com (Francisco Tapia)
Date: Thu, 2 Jun 2005 08:56:59 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Error Loading Project?
In-Reply-To: <E61FC1D4B1918244905B113C680BEA86873A69@infoserver01.infostat.local>
References: <E61FC1D4B1918244905B113C680BEA86873A69@infoserver01.infostat.local>
Message-ID: <b874372a05060208562b1a3dbc@mail.gmail.com>

SP3 :O
I've only patched up to SR-1 on 2000 before... anything I should watch
out for in SP3?

On 6/2/05, Charlotte Foust <cfoust at infostatsystems.com> wrote:
> If you have 2k and XP on your either machine, make sure 2k is patched to
> SP3 before you do any exporting.  OXP installed a VBE6.dll that breaks
> the version in 2k, causing that blasted network connection error to be
> thrown erroneously.  Take a look at this MSKB article:
> http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;304548
> 
> Charlotte Foust
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Francisco Tapia [mailto:fhtapia at gmail.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, June 01, 2005 5:47 PM
> To: access-l at peach.ease.lsoft.com; Access Developers discussion and
> problem solving
> Subject: [AccessD] Error Loading Project?
> 
> 
> Recently I've been plauged by this error:
> 
> I have 2 Access ADP's , the primary is the dev copy and I write in this
> copy all my development code, once compiled, and tested I "EXPORT" the
> new form or modified form to the Production .adp copy
> this file used to be on the network, but due to the more recent network
> errors that I was plauged w/ I decided to simply create a folder on my
> pc called "build" and export to that folder instead, everything had been
> working great, and in fact each copy compiles w/o errors... but if I
> export from the dev on drive C to the build on drive C I end up w/ an
> error on the build copy as "Error Loading Project, disk or network
> error, continue loading?" if you click ok I find that the module is
> empty.  If I then (while in the build copy), IMPORT the same form, then
> I get a new Form1 classic import, I delete the corrupted form and rename
> Form1 to Form and all is well again... why can I not export anymore?
> 
> 
> --
> -Francisco
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> http://sqlthis.blogspot.com | Tsql and More...
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> 


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From fhtapia at gmail.com  Thu Jun  2 12:19:59 2005
From: fhtapia at gmail.com (Francisco Tapia)
Date: Thu, 2 Jun 2005 10:19:59 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Error Loading Project?
In-Reply-To: <b874372a05060208562b1a3dbc@mail.gmail.com>
References: <E61FC1D4B1918244905B113C680BEA86873A69@infoserver01.infostat.local>
	<b874372a05060208562b1a3dbc@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <b874372a05060210196d767ae5@mail.gmail.com>

I was skeptical because I've been on SR1a for sooo long now, but I did
upgrade to SP3 and everything is now working as expected :).  Just
hope this does not contribute to some additional bug :S

On 6/2/05, Francisco Tapia <fhtapia at gmail.com> wrote:
> SP3 :O
> I've only patched up to SR-1 on 2000 before... anything I should watch
> out for in SP3?
> 
> On 6/2/05, Charlotte Foust <cfoust at infostatsystems.com> wrote:
> > If you have 2k and XP on your either machine, make sure 2k is patched to
> > SP3 before you do any exporting.  OXP installed a VBE6.dll that breaks
> > the version in 2k, causing that blasted network connection error to be
> > thrown erroneously.  Take a look at this MSKB article:
> > http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;304548
> >
> > Charlotte Foust
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Francisco Tapia [mailto:fhtapia at gmail.com]
> > Sent: Wednesday, June 01, 2005 5:47 PM
> > To: access-l at peach.ease.lsoft.com; Access Developers discussion and
> > problem solving
> > Subject: [AccessD] Error Loading Project?
> >
> >
> > Recently I've been plauged by this error:
> >
> > I have 2 Access ADP's , the primary is the dev copy and I write in this
> > copy all my development code, once compiled, and tested I "EXPORT" the
> > new form or modified form to the Production .adp copy
> > this file used to be on the network, but due to the more recent network
> > errors that I was plauged w/ I decided to simply create a folder on my
> > pc called "build" and export to that folder instead, everything had been
> > working great, and in fact each copy compiles w/o errors... but if I
> > export from the dev on drive C to the build on drive C I end up w/ an
> > error on the build copy as "Error Loading Project, disk or network
> > error, continue loading?" if you click ok I find that the module is
> > empty.  If I then (while in the build copy), IMPORT the same form, then
> > I get a new Form1 classic import, I delete the corrupted form and rename
> > Form1 to Form and all is well again... why can I not export anymore?
> >
> >
> > --
> > -Francisco
> > http://pcthis.blogspot.com |PC news with out the jargon!
> > http://sqlthis.blogspot.com | Tsql and More...
> > --
> > AccessD mailing list
> > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com
> > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd
> > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com
> > --
> > AccessD mailing list
> > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com
> > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd
> > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com
> >
> 
> 
> --
> -Francisco
> http://pcthis.blogspot.com |PC news with out the jargon!
> http://sqlthis.blogspot.com | Tsql and More...
> 


-- 
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From cfoust at infostatsystems.com  Thu Jun  2 13:24:39 2005
From: cfoust at infostatsystems.com (Charlotte Foust)
Date: Thu, 2 Jun 2005 11:24:39 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Error Loading Project?
Message-ID: <E61FC1D4B1918244905B113C680BEA86873A6A@infoserver01.infostat.local>

2003 breaks it the same way as XP.

Charlotte Foust


-----Original Message-----
From: Francisco Tapia [mailto:fhtapia at gmail.com] 
Sent: Thursday, June 02, 2005 8:56 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Error Loading Project?


Not at this time, I Just ordered Access 2003, currenlty I have Office 97
& 2000 w/ Outlook  2003.

On 6/1/05, John W. Colby <jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com> wrote:
> Do you happen to have 2K and XP on the same machine?

> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Francisco 
> Tapia
> Sent: Wednesday, June 01, 2005 8:47 PM
> To: access-l at peach.ease.lsoft.com; Access Developers discussion and
problem
> solving
> Subject: [AccessD] Error Loading Project?
> 
> 
> Recently I've been plauged by this error:
> 
> I have 2 Access ADP's , the primary is the dev copy and I write in 
> this copy all my development code, once compiled, and tested I 
> "EXPORT" the new form or modified form to the Production .adp copy 
> this file used to be on the network, but due to the more recent 
> network errors that I was plauged w/ I decided to simply create a 
> folder on my pc called "build" and export to that folder instead, 
> everything had been working great, and in fact each copy compiles w/o 
> errors... but if I export from the dev on drive C to the build on 
> drive C I end up w/ an error on the build copy as "Error Loading 
> Project, disk or network error, continue loading?" if you click ok I 
> find that the module is empty.  If I then (while in the build copy), 
> IMPORT the same form, then I get a new Form1 classic import, I delete 
> the corrupted form and rename Form1 to Form and all is well again... 
> why can I not export anymore?
> 
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From cfoust at infostatsystems.com  Thu Jun  2 13:25:45 2005
From: cfoust at infostatsystems.com (Charlotte Foust)
Date: Thu, 2 Jun 2005 11:25:45 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Error Loading Project?
Message-ID: <E61FC1D4B1918244905B113C680BEA86873A6B@infoserver01.infostat.local>

I seem to recall that it reinstitutes a bug or two cured in earlier SPs,
perhaps something to do with resetting the autonumber seed, but I don't
recall.

Charlotte Foust


-----Original Message-----
From: Francisco Tapia [mailto:fhtapia at gmail.com] 
Sent: Thursday, June 02, 2005 10:20 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Error Loading Project?


I was skeptical because I've been on SR1a for sooo long now, but I did
upgrade to SP3 and everything is now working as expected :).  Just hope
this does not contribute to some additional bug :S

On 6/2/05, Francisco Tapia <fhtapia at gmail.com> wrote:
> SP3 :O
> I've only patched up to SR-1 on 2000 before... anything I should watch

> out for in SP3?
> 
> On 6/2/05, Charlotte Foust <cfoust at infostatsystems.com> wrote:
> > If you have 2k and XP on your either machine, make sure 2k is 
> > patched to SP3 before you do any exporting.  OXP installed a 
> > VBE6.dll that breaks the version in 2k, causing that blasted network

> > connection error to be thrown erroneously.  Take a look at this MSKB

> > article: 
> > http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;304548
> >
> > Charlotte Foust
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Francisco Tapia [mailto:fhtapia at gmail.com]
> > Sent: Wednesday, June 01, 2005 5:47 PM
> > To: access-l at peach.ease.lsoft.com; Access Developers discussion and 
> > problem solving
> > Subject: [AccessD] Error Loading Project?
> >
> >
> > Recently I've been plauged by this error:
> >
> > I have 2 Access ADP's , the primary is the dev copy and I write in 
> > this copy all my development code, once compiled, and tested I 
> > "EXPORT" the new form or modified form to the Production .adp copy 
> > this file used to be on the network, but due to the more recent 
> > network errors that I was plauged w/ I decided to simply create a 
> > folder on my pc called "build" and export to that folder instead, 
> > everything had been working great, and in fact each copy compiles 
> > w/o errors... but if I export from the dev on drive C to the build 
> > on drive C I end up w/ an error on the build copy as "Error Loading 
> > Project, disk or network error, continue loading?" if you click ok I

> > find that the module is empty.  If I then (while in the build copy),

> > IMPORT the same form, then I get a new Form1 classic import, I 
> > delete the corrupted form and rename Form1 to Form and all is well 
> > again... why can I not export anymore?
> >
> >
> > --
> > -Francisco
> > http://pcthis.blogspot.com |PC news with out the jargon! 
> > http://sqlthis.blogspot.com | Tsql and More...
> > --
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> > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com 
> > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd
> > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com
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> > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com 
> > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd
> > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com
> >
> 
> 
> --
> -Francisco
> http://pcthis.blogspot.com |PC news with out the jargon! 
> http://sqlthis.blogspot.com | Tsql and More...
> 


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From accessd at shaw.ca  Thu Jun  2 13:32:09 2005
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Thu, 02 Jun 2005 11:32:09 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Error Loading Project?
In-Reply-To: <E61FC1D4B1918244905B113C680BEA86873A6A@infoserver01.infostat.local>
Message-ID: <0IHG00I0BZHIY6@l-daemon>

So what would be the best way to import Access into XP and 2003 without
major issues other than hand coding?

Jim 

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Charlotte Foust
Sent: Thursday, June 02, 2005 11:25 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Error Loading Project?

2003 breaks it the same way as XP.

Charlotte Foust


-----Original Message-----
From: Francisco Tapia [mailto:fhtapia at gmail.com] 
Sent: Thursday, June 02, 2005 8:56 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Error Loading Project?


Not at this time, I Just ordered Access 2003, currenlty I have Office 97
& 2000 w/ Outlook  2003.

On 6/1/05, John W. Colby <jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com> wrote:
> Do you happen to have 2K and XP on the same machine?

> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Francisco 
> Tapia
> Sent: Wednesday, June 01, 2005 8:47 PM
> To: access-l at peach.ease.lsoft.com; Access Developers discussion and
problem
> solving
> Subject: [AccessD] Error Loading Project?
> 
> 
> Recently I've been plauged by this error:
> 
> I have 2 Access ADP's , the primary is the dev copy and I write in 
> this copy all my development code, once compiled, and tested I 
> "EXPORT" the new form or modified form to the Production .adp copy 
> this file used to be on the network, but due to the more recent 
> network errors that I was plauged w/ I decided to simply create a 
> folder on my pc called "build" and export to that folder instead, 
> everything had been working great, and in fact each copy compiles w/o 
> errors... but if I export from the dev on drive C to the build on 
> drive C I end up w/ an error on the build copy as "Error Loading 
> Project, disk or network error, continue loading?" if you click ok I 
> find that the module is empty.  If I then (while in the build copy), 
> IMPORT the same form, then I get a new Form1 classic import, I delete 
> the corrupted form and rename Form1 to Form and all is well again... 
> why can I not export anymore?
> 
-- 
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From Drawbridge.Jack at ic.gc.ca  Thu Jun  2 14:00:48 2005
From: Drawbridge.Jack at ic.gc.ca (Drawbridge, Jack: #CIO - BPI)
Date: Thu, 2 Jun 2005 15:00:48 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] A2K talking to IE6 - File Save As
Message-ID: <0F3AFAE449DD4A40BED8B6C4A97ABF5B0298AAAA@MSG-MB3.icent.ic.gc.ca>

Looking for help/advice or sample code to open IE6 from code in A2K. Am interested in how to do a File| Save As Webpage, Complete.
We have a database of 60000 companies and want to put extracts of selected 100-500 companies (html and graphics etc) onto a CD for use with Offline Browser.

Can not figure out how to get to IE6 File | Save As.

I have some code to open a page with IE browser and save all the links on the page.

Any help would be appreciated.

TIA 

jack

'---- CODE to GET the Links from a given page ----
'---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
' Procedure : GetLinks
' DateTime  : 2005-06-02 14:19
' Author    :
' Purpose   : get all links from a named webpage URL
'---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
'
Sub GetLinks()

' ** need to set a reference to
' ** Microsoft Internet Controls

    Dim IeApp As InternetExplorer
    Dim sURL As String
    Dim IeDoc As Object
    Dim i As Long
    
   'Create new instance of IE
    Set IeApp = New InternetExplorer
    
    'May wish to make IeApp visible
    'apparently some things don't work
    'unless it's visible
    IeApp.Visible = False
    
    'define the page to open
    sURL = "www.diligens.com"
    
    'navigate to the page based on URL
    IeApp.Navigate sURL
   
    'Pause until the webpage is completely loaded
    Do
    Loop Until IeApp.ReadyState = READYSTATE_COMPLETE
    
    'Create instance of Document object
    Set IeDoc = IeApp.Document
  
    'Loop through the document's links collection.
    For i = 0 To IeDoc.links.Length - 1
        Debug.Print IeDoc.links(i).href
    Next i
    
    'Clean up
    Set IeApp = Nothing
    Set IeDoc = Nothing
End Sub


From cfoust at infostatsystems.com  Thu Jun  2 14:52:44 2005
From: cfoust at infostatsystems.com (Charlotte Foust)
Date: Thu, 2 Jun 2005 12:52:44 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Error Loading Project?
Message-ID: <E61FC1D4B1918244905B113C680BEA86873A6C@infoserver01.infostat.local>

They don't break in XP and 2003, only the other direction.

Charlotte Foust


-----Original Message-----
From: Jim Lawrence [mailto:accessd at shaw.ca] 
Sent: Thursday, June 02, 2005 11:32 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Error Loading Project?


So what would be the best way to import Access into XP and 2003 without
major issues other than hand coding?

Jim 

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Charlotte
Foust
Sent: Thursday, June 02, 2005 11:25 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Error Loading Project?

2003 breaks it the same way as XP.

Charlotte Foust


-----Original Message-----
From: Francisco Tapia [mailto:fhtapia at gmail.com] 
Sent: Thursday, June 02, 2005 8:56 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Error Loading Project?


Not at this time, I Just ordered Access 2003, currenlty I have Office 97
& 2000 w/ Outlook  2003.

On 6/1/05, John W. Colby <jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com> wrote:
> Do you happen to have 2K and XP on the same machine?

> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Francisco
> Tapia
> Sent: Wednesday, June 01, 2005 8:47 PM
> To: access-l at peach.ease.lsoft.com; Access Developers discussion and
problem
> solving
> Subject: [AccessD] Error Loading Project?
> 
> 
> Recently I've been plauged by this error:
> 
> I have 2 Access ADP's , the primary is the dev copy and I write in
> this copy all my development code, once compiled, and tested I 
> "EXPORT" the new form or modified form to the Production .adp copy 
> this file used to be on the network, but due to the more recent 
> network errors that I was plauged w/ I decided to simply create a 
> folder on my pc called "build" and export to that folder instead, 
> everything had been working great, and in fact each copy compiles w/o 
> errors... but if I export from the dev on drive C to the build on 
> drive C I end up w/ an error on the build copy as "Error Loading 
> Project, disk or network error, continue loading?" if you click ok I 
> find that the module is empty.  If I then (while in the build copy), 
> IMPORT the same form, then I get a new Form1 classic import, I delete 
> the corrupted form and rename Form1 to Form and all is well again... 
> why can I not export anymore?
> 
-- 
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From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com  Thu Jun  2 14:59:52 2005
From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (John W. Colby)
Date: Thu, 02 Jun 2005 15:59:52 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Error Loading Project?
In-Reply-To: <E61FC1D4B1918244905B113C680BEA86873A6C@infoserver01.infostat.local>
Message-ID: <004301c567ad$a3fbd2c0$6c7aa8c0@ColbyM6805>

Charlotte,

Why don't you give a synopsis of what the problem is and how it is
triggered.  XP provides new dll, 2K PreSP3 has wrong entry points, etc.

John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com 

Contribute your unused CPU cycles to a good cause:
http://folding.stanford.edu/

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Charlotte Foust
Sent: Thursday, June 02, 2005 3:53 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Error Loading Project?


They don't break in XP and 2003, only the other direction.

Charlotte Foust


-----Original Message-----
From: Jim Lawrence [mailto:accessd at shaw.ca] 
Sent: Thursday, June 02, 2005 11:32 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Error Loading Project?


So what would be the best way to import Access into XP and 2003 without
major issues other than hand coding?

Jim 

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Charlotte Foust
Sent: Thursday, June 02, 2005 11:25 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Error Loading Project?

2003 breaks it the same way as XP.

Charlotte Foust


-----Original Message-----
From: Francisco Tapia [mailto:fhtapia at gmail.com] 
Sent: Thursday, June 02, 2005 8:56 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Error Loading Project?


Not at this time, I Just ordered Access 2003, currenlty I have Office 97 &
2000 w/ Outlook  2003.

On 6/1/05, John W. Colby <jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com> wrote:
> Do you happen to have 2K and XP on the same machine?

> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Francisco 
> Tapia
> Sent: Wednesday, June 01, 2005 8:47 PM
> To: access-l at peach.ease.lsoft.com; Access Developers discussion and
problem
> solving
> Subject: [AccessD] Error Loading Project?
> 
> 
> Recently I've been plauged by this error:
> 
> I have 2 Access ADP's , the primary is the dev copy and I write in 
> this copy all my development code, once compiled, and tested I 
> "EXPORT" the new form or modified form to the Production .adp copy 
> this file used to be on the network, but due to the more recent 
> network errors that I was plauged w/ I decided to simply create a 
> folder on my pc called "build" and export to that folder instead, 
> everything had been working great, and in fact each copy compiles w/o 
> errors... but if I export from the dev on drive C to the build on 
> drive C I end up w/ an error on the build copy as "Error Loading 
> Project, disk or network error, continue loading?" if you click ok I 
> find that the module is empty.  If I then (while in the build copy), 
> IMPORT the same form, then I get a new Form1 classic import, I delete 
> the corrupted form and rename Form1 to Form and all is well again... 
> why can I not export anymore?
> 
-- 
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From pedro at plex.nl  Thu Jun  2 15:34:18 2005
From: pedro at plex.nl (Pedro Janssen)
Date: Thu, 2 Jun 2005 22:34:18 +0200
Subject: [AccessD] Any ArcGis vba programmers out there?
References: <200506021316.j52DGAIJ222210@pimout3-ext.prodigy.net>
Message-ID: <00be01c567b5$35f4bbe0$f4c581d5@pedro>

Hello John,

I asked with the ESRI department in the Netherlands, but they charge money
for the writing of the script.
I still can use the avenue script in ArcView3, but it would be nice to have
it in VBA.

The Workinggroup where i use this script for are all volunteers, and we
don't have the money to let the script be written in VBA.
I now don't have the time to dive into VBA for Gis applications.

Thanks for your response.

Pedro Janssen





----- Original Message -----
From: "John Bartow" <john at winhaven.net>
To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'"
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Thursday, June 02, 2005 3:16 PM
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Any ArcGis vba programmers out there?


> Pedro,
> I can't help you directly.
>
> There are usually ESRI User Groups in most areas where their products have
a
> user base of any size. However, I would start with the ESRI Regional
staff.
> I have found that they are very helpful in this type of endeavor.
>
> Good luck
> John B.
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of pedro at plex.nl
> Sent: Thursday, June 02, 2005 12:10 PM
> To: AccessD at databaseadvisors.com
> Subject: [AccessD] Any ArcGis vba programmers out there?
>
> Hello Group,
>
> John W. Colby question about mappoint triggered me to ask the same about
> ArcGis.
>
> I have a script in Avenue that i need to have in VBA for ArcGis. Who can
> help me with this.
>
> Pedro Janssen
>
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From mmattys at rochester.rr.com  Thu Jun  2 16:18:25 2005
From: mmattys at rochester.rr.com (Michael R Mattys)
Date: Thu, 2 Jun 2005 17:18:25 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Any MapPoint programmers out there?
References: <002901c566f9$5c6c79f0$6c7aa8c0@ColbyM6805>
Message-ID: <018001c567b8$9e7b95f0$0202a8c0@default>

JC,

What solutions will you be coding in MapPoint?

----

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Mattys MapLib for Microsoft MapPoint
http://www.mattysconsulting.com



----- Original Message -----
From: "John W. Colby" <jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com>
To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'"
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Wednesday, June 01, 2005 6:29 PM
Subject: [AccessD] Any MapPoint programmers out there?


> I'm getting ready to do some pretty serious MapPoint stuff and wondered if
> anyone else out there is doing MapPoint?
>
> John W. Colby
> www.ColbyConsulting.com
>
> Contribute your unused CPU cycles to a good cause:
> http://folding.stanford.edu/
>
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From cfoust at infostatsystems.com  Thu Jun  2 17:14:07 2005
From: cfoust at infostatsystems.com (Charlotte Foust)
Date: Thu, 2 Jun 2005 15:14:07 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Error Loading Project?
Message-ID: <E61FC1D4B1918244905B113C680BEA8689A2E6@infoserver01.infostat.local>

Well, it has been discussed here in the past, but the gist is that both
XP and 2003 provide a VBE6.dll that is a different version from that
used by Office 2000.  This is not strictly an Access problem, since I've
seen reports of it toasting Excel and Word as well.  The errors arise
with both Access 2000 pre-SP3 and version 6.3.91.8 of the dll.  So if
you have 2000 and are running it on the same machine with a later
version or are passing code containers between machines with differing
versions, you will run into problems on the 2000 machine unless you have
SP3 installed.  SP3, and also a hot patch that was available prior to
SP3 release, actually patch the A2k executable so that it can cope with
the later version of the dll without going down in flames.

When I first ran into it, way back, I discovered that if I opened an mdb
created elsewhere in Access XP on my machine, which only had 2000, and
tried to view the code I was likely to regret it.  If I tried to
*import* the code containers into an Access 2000 database, I was SURE to
regret it.  The recovery steps listed in MSKB 304548 may or may not
work.  They didn't work for me when I encountered the problem.

Charlotte Foust


-----Original Message-----
From: John W. Colby [mailto:jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com] 
Sent: Thursday, June 02, 2005 1:00 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Error Loading Project?


Charlotte,

Why don't you give a synopsis of what the problem is and how it is
triggered.  XP provides new dll, 2K PreSP3 has wrong entry points, etc.

John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com 

Contribute your unused CPU cycles to a good cause:
http://folding.stanford.edu/

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Charlotte
Foust
Sent: Thursday, June 02, 2005 3:53 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Error Loading Project?


They don't break in XP and 2003, only the other direction.

Charlotte Foust


-----Original Message-----
From: Jim Lawrence [mailto:accessd at shaw.ca] 
Sent: Thursday, June 02, 2005 11:32 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Error Loading Project?


So what would be the best way to import Access into XP and 2003 without
major issues other than hand coding?

Jim 

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Charlotte
Foust
Sent: Thursday, June 02, 2005 11:25 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Error Loading Project?

2003 breaks it the same way as XP.

Charlotte Foust


-----Original Message-----
From: Francisco Tapia [mailto:fhtapia at gmail.com] 
Sent: Thursday, June 02, 2005 8:56 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Error Loading Project?


Not at this time, I Just ordered Access 2003, currenlty I have Office 97
& 2000 w/ Outlook  2003.

On 6/1/05, John W. Colby <jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com> wrote:
> Do you happen to have 2K and XP on the same machine?

> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Francisco
> Tapia
> Sent: Wednesday, June 01, 2005 8:47 PM
> To: access-l at peach.ease.lsoft.com; Access Developers discussion and
problem
> solving
> Subject: [AccessD] Error Loading Project?
> 
> 
> Recently I've been plauged by this error:
> 
> I have 2 Access ADP's , the primary is the dev copy and I write in
> this copy all my development code, once compiled, and tested I 
> "EXPORT" the new form or modified form to the Production .adp copy 
> this file used to be on the network, but due to the more recent 
> network errors that I was plauged w/ I decided to simply create a 
> folder on my pc called "build" and export to that folder instead, 
> everything had been working great, and in fact each copy compiles w/o 
> errors... but if I export from the dev on drive C to the build on 
> drive C I end up w/ an error on the build copy as "Error Loading 
> Project, disk or network error, continue loading?" if you click ok I 
> find that the module is empty.  If I then (while in the build copy), 
> IMPORT the same form, then I get a new Form1 classic import, I delete 
> the corrupted form and rename Form1 to Form and all is well again... 
> why can I not export anymore?
> 
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From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com  Thu Jun  2 17:35:19 2005
From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (John W. Colby)
Date: Thu, 02 Jun 2005 18:35:19 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Any MapPoint programmers out there?
In-Reply-To: <018001c567b8$9e7b95f0$0202a8c0@default>
Message-ID: <004401c567c3$5af6e220$6c7aa8c0@ColbyM6805>

My client calls people about contracts they need to fill.  They want to see
the location of the contract, and the location of the people selected to be
called.  I am well along.  The map is opening (I am programming to the lib,
not the activex control), I have built up a mappoint framework which can
open and close the app, the map, has classes for locations that hold the
pieces of the address as well as a location object for the address (if just
one), a pushpin if the location is put into the map etc.  

Eventually they want to do things like "this person is also close to this
other open contract" so that as they display a person to call, the map will
not only display the contract location they are being called about, they
will be shown other contracts close to that person's address.

Stuff like that.

John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com 

Contribute your unused CPU cycles to a good cause:
http://folding.stanford.edu/

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Michael R Mattys
Sent: Thursday, June 02, 2005 5:18 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Any MapPoint programmers out there?


JC,

What solutions will you be coding in MapPoint?

----

Michael R. Mattys
Mattys MapLib for Microsoft MapPoint http://www.mattysconsulting.com



----- Original Message -----
From: "John W. Colby" <jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com>
To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'"
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Wednesday, June 01, 2005 6:29 PM
Subject: [AccessD] Any MapPoint programmers out there?


> I'm getting ready to do some pretty serious MapPoint stuff and 
> wondered if anyone else out there is doing MapPoint?
>
> John W. Colby
> www.ColbyConsulting.com
>
> Contribute your unused CPU cycles to a good cause: 
> http://folding.stanford.edu/
>
>
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From mmattys at rochester.rr.com  Thu Jun  2 18:12:57 2005
From: mmattys at rochester.rr.com (Michael R Mattys)
Date: Thu, 2 Jun 2005 19:12:57 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Any MapPoint programmers out there?
References: <004401c567c3$5af6e220$6c7aa8c0@ColbyM6805>
Message-ID: <01bf01c567c8$9f42c340$0202a8c0@default>

Hi John,

I have no doubt that everything you do in the next month
will match what I have done in 2 years. Nevertheless, if
you have any questions, I'll try to help.

----

Michael R. Mattys
Mattys MapLib for Microsoft MapPoint
http://www.mattysconsulting.com



----- Original Message -----
From: "John W. Colby" <jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com>
To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'"
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Thursday, June 02, 2005 6:35 PM
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Any MapPoint programmers out there?


> My client calls people about contracts they need to fill.  They want to
see
> the location of the contract, and the location of the people selected to
be
> called.  I am well along.  The map is opening (I am programming to the
lib,
> not the activex control), I have built up a mappoint framework which can
> open and close the app, the map, has classes for locations that hold the
> pieces of the address as well as a location object for the address (if
just
> one), a pushpin if the location is put into the map etc.
>
> Eventually they want to do things like "this person is also close to this
> other open contract" so that as they display a person to call, the map
will
> not only display the contract location they are being called about, they
> will be shown other contracts close to that person's address.
>
> Stuff like that.
>
> John W. Colby
> www.ColbyConsulting.com
>
> Contribute your unused CPU cycles to a good cause:
> http://folding.stanford.edu/
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Michael R
Mattys
> Sent: Thursday, June 02, 2005 5:18 PM
> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] Any MapPoint programmers out there?
>
>
> JC,
>
> What solutions will you be coding in MapPoint?
>
> ----
>
> Michael R. Mattys
> Mattys MapLib for Microsoft MapPoint http://www.mattysconsulting.com
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "John W. Colby" <jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com>
> To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'"
> <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, June 01, 2005 6:29 PM
> Subject: [AccessD] Any MapPoint programmers out there?
>
>
> > I'm getting ready to do some pretty serious MapPoint stuff and
> > wondered if anyone else out there is doing MapPoint?
> >
> > John W. Colby
> > www.ColbyConsulting.com



From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com  Thu Jun  2 18:34:52 2005
From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (John W. Colby)
Date: Thu, 02 Jun 2005 19:34:52 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Any MapPoint programmers out there?
In-Reply-To: <01bf01c567c8$9f42c340$0202a8c0@default>
Message-ID: <004501c567cb$acefb5e0$6c7aa8c0@ColbyM6805>

I appreciate it.  Mostly it's a matter of discovering how to do all those
things that can be done.

John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com 

Contribute your unused CPU cycles to a good cause:
http://folding.stanford.edu/

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Michael R Mattys
Sent: Thursday, June 02, 2005 7:13 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Any MapPoint programmers out there?


Hi John,

I have no doubt that everything you do in the next month
will match what I have done in 2 years. Nevertheless, if
you have any questions, I'll try to help.

----

Michael R. Mattys
Mattys MapLib for Microsoft MapPoint http://www.mattysconsulting.com



----- Original Message -----
From: "John W. Colby" <jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com>
To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'"
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Thursday, June 02, 2005 6:35 PM
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Any MapPoint programmers out there?


> My client calls people about contracts they need to fill.  They want 
> to
see
> the location of the contract, and the location of the people selected 
> to
be
> called.  I am well along.  The map is opening (I am programming to the
lib,
> not the activex control), I have built up a mappoint framework which 
> can open and close the app, the map, has classes for locations that 
> hold the pieces of the address as well as a location object for the 
> address (if
just
> one), a pushpin if the location is put into the map etc.
>
> Eventually they want to do things like "this person is also close to 
> this other open contract" so that as they display a person to call, 
> the map
will
> not only display the contract location they are being called about, 
> they will be shown other contracts close to that person's address.
>
> Stuff like that.
>
> John W. Colby
> www.ColbyConsulting.com
>
> Contribute your unused CPU cycles to a good cause: 
> http://folding.stanford.edu/
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Michael R
Mattys
> Sent: Thursday, June 02, 2005 5:18 PM
> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] Any MapPoint programmers out there?
>
>
> JC,
>
> What solutions will you be coding in MapPoint?
>
> ----
>
> Michael R. Mattys
> Mattys MapLib for Microsoft MapPoint http://www.mattysconsulting.com
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "John W. Colby" <jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com>
> To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'" 
> <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, June 01, 2005 6:29 PM
> Subject: [AccessD] Any MapPoint programmers out there?
>
>
> > I'm getting ready to do some pretty serious MapPoint stuff and 
> > wondered if anyone else out there is doing MapPoint?
> >
> > John W. Colby
> > www.ColbyConsulting.com

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From accessd at shaw.ca  Fri Jun  3 01:42:20 2005
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Thu, 02 Jun 2005 23:42:20 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Error Loading Project?
In-Reply-To: <E61FC1D4B1918244905B113C680BEA86873A6C@infoserver01.infostat.local>
Message-ID: <0IHH00M2OXAFC3@l-daemon>

Charlotte: Good, honestly, who would ever go back... now the going back
option has been eliminated. :-)

It is a good plan.

Thanks
Jim

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Charlotte Foust
Sent: Thursday, June 02, 2005 12:53 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Error Loading Project?

They don't break in XP and 2003, only the other direction.

Charlotte Foust


-----Original Message-----
From: Jim Lawrence [mailto:accessd at shaw.ca] 
Sent: Thursday, June 02, 2005 11:32 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Error Loading Project?


So what would be the best way to import Access into XP and 2003 without
major issues other than hand coding?

Jim 

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Charlotte
Foust
Sent: Thursday, June 02, 2005 11:25 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Error Loading Project?

2003 breaks it the same way as XP.

Charlotte Foust


-----Original Message-----
From: Francisco Tapia [mailto:fhtapia at gmail.com] 
Sent: Thursday, June 02, 2005 8:56 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Error Loading Project?


Not at this time, I Just ordered Access 2003, currenlty I have Office 97
& 2000 w/ Outlook  2003.

On 6/1/05, John W. Colby <jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com> wrote:
> Do you happen to have 2K and XP on the same machine?

> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Francisco
> Tapia
> Sent: Wednesday, June 01, 2005 8:47 PM
> To: access-l at peach.ease.lsoft.com; Access Developers discussion and
problem
> solving
> Subject: [AccessD] Error Loading Project?
> 
> 
> Recently I've been plauged by this error:
> 
> I have 2 Access ADP's , the primary is the dev copy and I write in
> this copy all my development code, once compiled, and tested I 
> "EXPORT" the new form or modified form to the Production .adp copy 
> this file used to be on the network, but due to the more recent 
> network errors that I was plauged w/ I decided to simply create a 
> folder on my pc called "build" and export to that folder instead, 
> everything had been working great, and in fact each copy compiles w/o 
> errors... but if I export from the dev on drive C to the build on 
> drive C I end up w/ an error on the build copy as "Error Loading 
> Project, disk or network error, continue loading?" if you click ok I 
> find that the module is empty.  If I then (while in the build copy), 
> IMPORT the same form, then I get a new Form1 classic import, I delete 
> the corrupted form and rename Form1 to Form and all is well again... 
> why can I not export anymore?
> 
-- 
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From accessd666 at yahoo.com  Fri Jun  3 04:55:14 2005
From: accessd666 at yahoo.com (Sad Der)
Date: Fri, 3 Jun 2005 02:55:14 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [AccessD] OT: Adjust an Outlook Form?
Message-ID: <20050603095514.62793.qmail@web31611.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Hi group,

I need to change an Outlook form. When I click:
  Tools -> Forms -> Choose Form
I see the form in the folder: 
  Organizational Forms Library

I saved this form to a folder on my harddisk.
How the %$%$@ can I change the code/gui for this
form??

When I click:
  Tools -> Forms -> Design Form
I cannot select the form I just saved. I cannot
browse! This button is gray. 

Any ideas?
I want to add some minor changes and implement them
today....I hope.

TIA

SD


		
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From paul.hartland at isharp.co.uk  Fri Jun  3 04:59:06 2005
From: paul.hartland at isharp.co.uk (Paul Hartland (ISHARP))
Date: Fri, 3 Jun 2005 10:59:06 +0100
Subject: [AccessD] Any MapPoint programmers out there?
In-Reply-To: <004501c567cb$acefb5e0$6c7aa8c0@ColbyM6805>
Message-ID: <!~!UENERkVCMDkAAQACAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAC4AAAAAAAAAclrM129q6km1GlSfRwF8CgEAFKerAD79REu7GTojEo2iDgAAAAddkgAAEAAAAOg+kCFI4YxLuoPnkukyUmkBAAAAAA==@isharp.co.uk>

Anyone got any sample code to get me started, I have just installed MapPoint
2004 (60 day evaluation).  All I want to do (using Visual Basic 6.0) is send
two postcodes to MapPoint and have Visual Basic display a message box with
the distance between the two postcodes.

Sample code for this and anything like it will be greatly appreciated.

Many thanks in advance...

Paul Hartland
Database Developer
 

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of John W. Colby
Sent: 03 June 2005 00:35
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Any MapPoint programmers out there?

I appreciate it.  Mostly it's a matter of discovering how to do all those
things that can be done.

John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com 

Contribute your unused CPU cycles to a good cause:
http://folding.stanford.edu/

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Michael R Mattys
Sent: Thursday, June 02, 2005 7:13 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Any MapPoint programmers out there?


Hi John,

I have no doubt that everything you do in the next month will match what I
have done in 2 years. Nevertheless, if you have any questions, I'll try to
help.

----

Michael R. Mattys
Mattys MapLib for Microsoft MapPoint http://www.mattysconsulting.com



----- Original Message -----
From: "John W. Colby" <jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com>
To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'"
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Thursday, June 02, 2005 6:35 PM
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Any MapPoint programmers out there?


> My client calls people about contracts they need to fill.  They want 
> to
see
> the location of the contract, and the location of the people selected 
> to
be
> called.  I am well along.  The map is opening (I am programming to the
lib,
> not the activex control), I have built up a mappoint framework which 
> can open and close the app, the map, has classes for locations that 
> hold the pieces of the address as well as a location object for the 
> address (if
just
> one), a pushpin if the location is put into the map etc.
>
> Eventually they want to do things like "this person is also close to 
> this other open contract" so that as they display a person to call, 
> the map
will
> not only display the contract location they are being called about, 
> they will be shown other contracts close to that person's address.
>
> Stuff like that.
>
> John W. Colby
> www.ColbyConsulting.com
>
> Contribute your unused CPU cycles to a good cause: 
> http://folding.stanford.edu/
>
> -----Original Message-----
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Mattys
> Sent: Thursday, June 02, 2005 5:18 PM
> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] Any MapPoint programmers out there?
>
>
> JC,
>
> What solutions will you be coding in MapPoint?
>
> ----
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> Mattys MapLib for Microsoft MapPoint http://www.mattysconsulting.com
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "John W. Colby" <jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com>
> To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'" 
> <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, June 01, 2005 6:29 PM
> Subject: [AccessD] Any MapPoint programmers out there?
>
>
> > I'm getting ready to do some pretty serious MapPoint stuff and 
> > wondered if anyone else out there is doing MapPoint?
> >
> > John W. Colby
> > www.ColbyConsulting.com

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From paul.hartland at isharp.co.uk  Fri Jun  3 05:44:15 2005
From: paul.hartland at isharp.co.uk (Paul Hartland (ISHARP))
Date: Fri, 3 Jun 2005 11:44:15 +0100
Subject: [AccessD] Any MapPoint programmers out there?
In-Reply-To: <042401c5675d$506a2440$0202a8c0@default>
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The .DistanceTo function seems to return distance as the crow flies....Is
this correct, only I need the actual mileage calculation 

-----Original Message-----
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Sent: 02 June 2005 11:25
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Any MapPoint programmers out there?

Since you've said 'postcodes', I'll assume you're in the UK (Not that it
makes a difference at the moment.) You'll be looking to use the .DistanceTo
function

Try here:
http://groups-beta.google.com/groups?hl=en&q=mappoint+distanceto

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To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'"
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Thursday, June 02, 2005 6:05 AM
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Any MapPoint programmers out there?


> Initially all I want to be able to do is pass a clients postcode and
several
> + employee postcodes into MapPoint and return the miles from client 
> + for
> every employee....
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Michael R
Mattys
> Sent: 02 June 2005 10:45
> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] Any MapPoint programmers out there?
>
> I have been programming in MapPoint for over 2 years using both Access 
> and VB6. I have several apps created that I sell, including a full 
> routing and scheduling app.
> Haven't had time to update my website since I started.
>
> My efforts were started at Eric Frost's www.mp2kmag.com, where you'll 
> find articles and discussion.
>
> I frequently answer questions on Newsgroups:
> Microsoft.Public.MapPoint and Microsoft.Public.Street-Trips.
> ----
>
> Michael R. Mattys
> Mattys MapLib for Microsoft MapPoint
> http://www.mattysconsulting.com
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Paul Hartland (ISHARP)" <paul.hartland at isharp.co.uk>
> To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'"
> <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
> Sent: Thursday, June 02, 2005 3:00 AM
> Subject: RE: [AccessD] Any MapPoint programmers out there?
>
>
> > I am also getting ready to use MapPoint with VB6 and SQL Server 
> > 2000,
> mainly
> > want to use it to calculate distances that our employees are from 
> > our clients, but may also want to be able to create maps/directions
etc....
> >
> > So if anyone knows any good sites or can help me with getting 
> > started I would be grateful....
> >
> > Thanks in advance for any help on this....
> >
> > Paul Hartland
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> > [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of John W.
> > Colby
> > Sent: 01 June 2005 23:29
> > To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
> > Subject: [AccessD] Any MapPoint programmers out there?
> >
> > I'm getting ready to do some pretty serious MapPoint stuff and 
> > wondered if anyone else out there is doing MapPoint?
> >
> > John W. Colby
> > www.ColbyConsulting.com
> >
> > Contribute your unused CPU cycles to a good cause:
> > http://folding.stanford.edu/
> >
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From mmattys at rochester.rr.com  Fri Jun  3 06:15:24 2005
From: mmattys at rochester.rr.com (Michael R Mattys)
Date: Fri, 3 Jun 2005 07:15:24 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Any MapPoint programmers out there?
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Message-ID: <025c01c5682d$8cc142e0$0202a8c0@default>


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To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'"
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Friday, June 03, 2005 6:44 AM
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Any MapPoint programmers out there?


> The .DistanceTo function seems to return distance as the crow flies....Is
> this correct, only I need the actual mileage calculation


Paul,

It's a good approximation. The code that gives you actual
miles involves enumeration of routes directions, which is a
"just a tiny bit more" code to write.

----

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Mattys MapLib for Microsoft MapPoint
http://www.mattysconsulting.com



From paul.hartland at fsmail.net  Fri Jun  3 06:23:16 2005
From: paul.hartland at fsmail.net (paul.hartland at fsmail.net)
Date: Fri,  3 Jun 2005 13:23:16 +0200 (CEST)
Subject: [AccessD] Any MapPoint programmers out there?
Message-ID: <10153117.1117797796484.JavaMail.www@wwinf3001>

That's what I am going to have to do then, cause it will be used to cross reference expense claims on our main system with around a 10% leeway, at the moment I am just playing about with MapPoint as I only installed it today....

So if anyone can help me with getting the actual mileage, it would be very appreciated.

Paul Hartland





Message date : Jun 03 2005, 12:14 PM
>From : "Michael R Mattys" 
To : "Access Developers discussion and problem solving" 
Copy to : 
Subject : Re: [AccessD] Any MapPoint programmers out there?

----- Original Message -----
From: "Paul Hartland (ISHARP)" 
To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'"

Sent: Friday, June 03, 2005 6:44 AM
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Any MapPoint programmers out there?


> The .DistanceTo function seems to return distance as the crow flies....Is
> this correct, only I need the actual mileage calculation


Paul,

It's a good approximation. The code that gives you actual
miles involves enumeration of routes directions, which is a
"just a tiny bit more" code to write.

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From mmattys at rochester.rr.com  Fri Jun  3 06:31:04 2005
From: mmattys at rochester.rr.com (Michael R Mattys)
Date: Fri, 3 Jun 2005 07:31:04 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Any MapPoint programmers out there?
References: <10153117.1117797796484.JavaMail.www@wwinf3001>
Message-ID: <027801c5682f$bbaa9f00$0202a8c0@default>

Hang on, Paul - I'm looking for it.

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Sent: Friday, June 03, 2005 7:23 AM
Subject: Re: Re: [AccessD] Any MapPoint programmers out there?


> That's what I am going to have to do then, cause it will be used to cross
reference expense claims on our main system with around a 10% leeway, at the
moment I am just playing about with MapPoint as I only installed it
today....
>
> So if anyone can help me with getting the actual mileage, it would be very
appreciated.



From cyx5 at cdc.gov  Fri Jun  3 06:34:10 2005
From: cyx5 at cdc.gov (Nicholson, Karen)
Date: Fri, 3 Jun 2005 07:34:10 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Friday Joke Day
Message-ID: <A5B5AA20555F594BA7B6BD2048E49E4376F96A@m-niosh-5.niosh.cdc.gov>

Just a reminder...


From mmattys at rochester.rr.com  Fri Jun  3 06:45:21 2005
From: mmattys at rochester.rr.com (Michael R Mattys)
Date: Fri, 3 Jun 2005 07:45:21 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Any MapPoint programmers out there?
References: <10153117.1117797796484.JavaMail.www@wwinf3001>
	<027801c5682f$bbaa9f00$0202a8c0@default>
Message-ID: <028401c56831$baa41990$0202a8c0@default>

Paul,

I pulled this from an answer on Google
Author is Gilles Kohl (MVP)
************************
>In my custom software I need to provide driving distance and directions
>between any 2 addresses (a map would be nice too). Does MapPoint have an
API
>that I can hook into so I can integrate these features in my software?

Yes it does, no problem. And in case you won't take my word for it,
here's sample code that works with MapPoint 2001 (to prevent
word-wrapping problems, I've also attached it as a text file)

For a map, you could either use the CopyMap method of the Map object
(copies the map as a picture to the clipboard, use like so:

objMap.CopyMap
Image1.Picture = Clipboard.GetData
), or use the full-blown MapPoint ActiveX control available in
MapPoint 2002.

Hope this helps,

Regards,
Gilles.

Option Explicit

' remember to set a reference to the Microsoft MapPoint Object Library
(North American)
Dim objApp As New MapPoint.Application

Private Sub cmdCalcDistance_Click()
Dim objMap As MapPoint.Map
Dim objLocMS As MapPoint.Location
Dim objLocHRC As MapPoint.Location

' Uncomment the following line to make MapPoint visible
' objApp.Visible = True

' Get a map object
Set objMap = objApp.NewMap

' Clear the route (
objMap.ActiveRoute.Clear

'Illustrate finding a United States address
Set objLocMS = objMap.FindAddress("One Microsoft Way", "Redmond",
"Washington", "98052", geoCountryUnitedStates)
If objLocMS Is Nothing Then
MsgBox "Sorry - did not find US address"
Exit Sub
End If

' Found it OK - add to route
objMap.ActiveRoute.Waypoints.A dd objLocMS, "Microsoft"

'Illustrate finding a Canadian address
Set objLocHRC = objMap.FindAddress("4295 Blackcombe Way",
"Whistler", "British Columbia", "VON1B4", geoCountryCanada)
If objLocHRC Is Nothing Then
   MsgBox "Sorry - did not find Canadian address"
   Exit Sub
End If

' Found it OK - add to route
objMap.ActiveRoute.Waypoints.Add objLocHRC, "HRC"

' Compute route
objMap.ActiveRoute.Calculate
If objMap.ActiveRoute.IsCalculated Then
        MsgBox "The distance is " & objMap.ActiveRoute.Distance & _
        IIf(objApp.Units = geoMiles, " miles", " km")
Else
MsgBox "Sorry, could not compute route"
End If
End Sub

Michael R. Mattys
Mattys MapLib for Microsoft MapPoint
http://www.mattysconsulting.com



From paul.hartland at fsmail.net  Fri Jun  3 06:49:51 2005
From: paul.hartland at fsmail.net (paul.hartland at fsmail.net)
Date: Fri,  3 Jun 2005 13:49:51 +0200 (CEST)
Subject: [AccessD] Any MapPoint programmers out there?
Message-ID: <8847644.1117799391745.JavaMail.www@wwinf3102>

Thanks very much, I can start playing now.....





Message date : Jun 03 2005, 12:46 PM
>From : "Michael R Mattys" 
To : "Access Developers discussion and problem solving" 
Copy to : 
Subject : Re: Re: [AccessD] Any MapPoint programmers out there?
Paul,

I pulled this from an answer on Google
Author is Gilles Kohl (MVP)
************************
>In my custom software I need to provide driving distance and directions
>between any 2 addresses (a map would be nice too). Does MapPoint have an
API
>that I can hook into so I can integrate these features in my software?

Yes it does, no problem. And in case you won't take my word for it,
here's sample code that works with MapPoint 2001 (to prevent
word-wrapping problems, I've also attached it as a text file)

For a map, you could either use the CopyMap method of the Map object
(copies the map as a picture to the clipboard, use like so:

objMap.CopyMap
Image1.Picture = Clipboard.GetData
), or use the full-blown MapPoint ActiveX control available in
MapPoint 2002.

Hope this helps,

Regards,
Gilles.

Option Explicit

' remember to set a reference to the Microsoft MapPoint Object Library
(North American)
Dim objApp As New MapPoint.Application

Private Sub cmdCalcDistance_Click()
Dim objMap As MapPoint.Map
Dim objLocMS As MapPoint.Location
Dim objLocHRC As MapPoint.Location

' Uncomment the following line to make MapPoint visible
' objApp.Visible = True

' Get a map object
Set objMap = objApp.NewMap

' Clear the route (
objMap.ActiveRoute.Clear

'Illustrate finding a United States address
Set objLocMS = objMap.FindAddress("One Microsoft Way", "Redmond",
"Washington", "98052", geoCountryUnitedStates)
If objLocMS Is Nothing Then
MsgBox "Sorry - did not find US address"
Exit Sub
End If

' Found it OK - add to route
objMap.ActiveRoute.Waypoints.A dd objLocMS, "Microsoft"

'Illustrate finding a Canadian address
Set objLocHRC = objMap.FindAddress("4295 Blackcombe Way",
"Whistler", "British Columbia", "VON1B4", geoCountryCanada)
If objLocHRC Is Nothing Then
MsgBox "Sorry - did not find Canadian address"
Exit Sub
End If

' Found it OK - add to route
objMap.ActiveRoute.Waypoints.Add objLocHRC, "HRC"

' Compute route
objMap.ActiveRoute.Calculate
If objMap.ActiveRoute.IsCalculated Then
MsgBox "The distance is " & objMap.ActiveRoute.Distance & _
IIf(objApp.Units = geoMiles, " miles", " km")
Else
MsgBox "Sorry, could not compute route"
End If
End Sub

Michael R. Mattys
Mattys MapLib for Microsoft MapPoint
http://www.mattysconsulting.com

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From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com  Fri Jun  3 07:24:06 2005
From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (John W. Colby)
Date: Fri, 03 Jun 2005 08:24:06 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Any MapPoint programmers out there?
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Public Function DistanceAsTheCarDrives(Lat1 As Double, Lon1 As Double, Lat2
As Double, Lon2 As Double) As Double
   Dim oLoc1 As MapPoint.Location
   Dim oLoc2 As MapPoint.Location

   Set oLoc1 = mMap.GetLocation(Lat1, Lon1, 0)
   Set oLoc2 = mMap.GetLocation(Lat2, Lon2, 0)

   mMap.ActiveRoute.Clear
   mMap.ActiveRoute.Waypoints.Add oLoc1, "Start"
   mMap.ActiveRoute.Waypoints.Add oLoc2, "End"
   mMap.ActiveRoute.Calculate
   DistanceAsTheCarDrives = mMap.ActiveRoute.Distance
End Function

Ignore the lat/long thing and start with your two locations.

John W. Colby
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(ISHARP)
Sent: Friday, June 03, 2005 6:44 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Any MapPoint programmers out there?


The .DistanceTo function seems to return distance as the crow flies....Is
this correct, only I need the actual mileage calculation 

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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Michael R Mattys
Sent: 02 June 2005 11:25
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Any MapPoint programmers out there?

Since you've said 'postcodes', I'll assume you're in the UK (Not that it
makes a difference at the moment.) You'll be looking to use the .DistanceTo
function

Try here: http://groups-beta.google.com/groups?hl=en&q=mappoint+distanceto

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From: "Paul Hartland (ISHARP)" <paul.hartland at isharp.co.uk>
To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'"
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Thursday, June 02, 2005 6:05 AM
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Any MapPoint programmers out there?


> Initially all I want to be able to do is pass a clients postcode and
several
> + employee postcodes into MapPoint and return the miles from client
> + for
> every employee....
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Michael R
Mattys
> Sent: 02 June 2005 10:45
> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] Any MapPoint programmers out there?
>
> I have been programming in MapPoint for over 2 years using both Access
> and VB6. I have several apps created that I sell, including a full 
> routing and scheduling app.
> Haven't had time to update my website since I started.
>
> My efforts were started at Eric Frost's www.mp2kmag.com, where you'll
> find articles and discussion.
>
> I frequently answer questions on Newsgroups: Microsoft.Public.MapPoint 
> and Microsoft.Public.Street-Trips.
> ----
>
> Michael R. Mattys
> Mattys MapLib for Microsoft MapPoint http://www.mattysconsulting.com
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Paul Hartland (ISHARP)" <paul.hartland at isharp.co.uk>
> To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'"
> <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
> Sent: Thursday, June 02, 2005 3:00 AM
> Subject: RE: [AccessD] Any MapPoint programmers out there?
>
>
> > I am also getting ready to use MapPoint with VB6 and SQL Server 
> > 2000,
> mainly
> > want to use it to calculate distances that our employees are from 
> > our clients, but may also want to be able to create maps/directions
etc....
> >
> > So if anyone knows any good sites or can help me with getting 
> > started I would be grateful....
> >
> > Thanks in advance for any help on this....
> >
> > Paul Hartland
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> > [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of John W.
> > Colby
> > Sent: 01 June 2005 23:29
> > To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
> > Subject: [AccessD] Any MapPoint programmers out there?
> >
> > I'm getting ready to do some pretty serious MapPoint stuff and 
> > wondered if anyone else out there is doing MapPoint?
> >
> > John W. Colby
> > www.ColbyConsulting.com
> >
> > Contribute your unused CPU cycles to a good cause:
> > http://folding.stanford.edu/
> >
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From paul.hartland at isharp.co.uk  Fri Jun  3 08:36:46 2005
From: paul.hartland at isharp.co.uk (Paul Hartland (ISHARP))
Date: Fri, 3 Jun 2005 14:36:46 +0100
Subject: [AccessD] Any MapPoint programmers out there?
In-Reply-To: <000001c56837$2607c2e0$6c7aa8c0@ColbyM6805>
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Thanks to everyone for their code samples, the day should now fly by with
this for me to play with  

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Sent: 03 June 2005 13:24
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Any MapPoint programmers out there?

Public Function DistanceAsTheCarDrives(Lat1 As Double, Lon1 As Double, Lat2
As Double, Lon2 As Double) As Double
   Dim oLoc1 As MapPoint.Location
   Dim oLoc2 As MapPoint.Location

   Set oLoc1 = mMap.GetLocation(Lat1, Lon1, 0)
   Set oLoc2 = mMap.GetLocation(Lat2, Lon2, 0)

   mMap.ActiveRoute.Clear
   mMap.ActiveRoute.Waypoints.Add oLoc1, "Start"
   mMap.ActiveRoute.Waypoints.Add oLoc2, "End"
   mMap.ActiveRoute.Calculate
   DistanceAsTheCarDrives = mMap.ActiveRoute.Distance End Function

Ignore the lat/long thing and start with your two locations.

John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com 

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The .DistanceTo function seems to return distance as the crow flies....Is
this correct, only I need the actual mileage calculation 

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Sent: 02 June 2005 11:25
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Any MapPoint programmers out there?

Since you've said 'postcodes', I'll assume you're in the UK (Not that it
makes a difference at the moment.) You'll be looking to use the .DistanceTo
function

Try here: http://groups-beta.google.com/groups?hl=en&q=mappoint+distanceto

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----- Original Message -----
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Sent: Thursday, June 02, 2005 6:05 AM
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Any MapPoint programmers out there?


> Initially all I want to be able to do is pass a clients postcode and
several
> + employee postcodes into MapPoint and return the miles from client 
> + for
> every employee....
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Michael R
Mattys
> Sent: 02 June 2005 10:45
> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] Any MapPoint programmers out there?
>
> I have been programming in MapPoint for over 2 years using both Access 
> and VB6. I have several apps created that I sell, including a full 
> routing and scheduling app.
> Haven't had time to update my website since I started.
>
> My efforts were started at Eric Frost's www.mp2kmag.com, where you'll 
> find articles and discussion.
>
> I frequently answer questions on Newsgroups: Microsoft.Public.MapPoint 
> and Microsoft.Public.Street-Trips.
> ----
>
> Michael R. Mattys
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>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Paul Hartland (ISHARP)" <paul.hartland at isharp.co.uk>
> To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'"
> <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
> Sent: Thursday, June 02, 2005 3:00 AM
> Subject: RE: [AccessD] Any MapPoint programmers out there?
>
>
> > I am also getting ready to use MapPoint with VB6 and SQL Server 
> > 2000,
> mainly
> > want to use it to calculate distances that our employees are from 
> > our clients, but may also want to be able to create maps/directions
etc....
> >
> > So if anyone knows any good sites or can help me with getting 
> > started I would be grateful....
> >
> > Thanks in advance for any help on this....
> >
> > Paul Hartland
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> > [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of John W.
> > Colby
> > Sent: 01 June 2005 23:29
> > To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
> > Subject: [AccessD] Any MapPoint programmers out there?
> >
> > I'm getting ready to do some pretty serious MapPoint stuff and 
> > wondered if anyone else out there is doing MapPoint?
> >
> > John W. Colby
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From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com  Fri Jun  3 09:09:26 2005
From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (John W. Colby)
Date: Fri, 03 Jun 2005 10:09:26 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] MapPoint location class
In-Reply-To: <8847644.1117799391745.JavaMail.www@wwinf3102>
Message-ID: <000101c56845$dcc88c90$6c7aa8c0@ColbyM6805>

Paul,

This code (see below this message) is a class clsLocation that I developed
to hold information about a location.  There is only one reference that is
specific to my code which I will get to in a minute.  As you know I prefer
to use classes if the code is going to be more than trivial.  

This class holds all the information and methods that I thought would be
useful for a single location.  I populate it initially from a function that
opens a recordset of addresses I want to map.  Each class instance holds
data about a single location.  

I pass in the address information.  I also pass in a "name" value in order
to allow naming the pushpin etc.  I pass in a "type" integer just so that I
can sort the locations.  For example I am mapping contracts and people to
call about the contracts.  For this purpose, in my application every
contract address is a "type" of 1 and people are "type" of 2.  Type
information is obviously specific to the application and can just be zero if
you don't need to "group" the locations into sets.  All of the data passed
in are stored in private variables in the class.

Function init(strName As String, lintType As Integer, lstrAddr1 As String,
lstrCity As String, _
                lstrState As String, lstrPostalCode As String, _
                Optional lstrCountry As String = "USA")

The one piece of code specific to my MapPoint framework (which is under
development and which this is pulled from) is the line in init:

    Set mcolFindAddrRes = cMPtApp.ActiveMap.FindAddressResults(mstrAddr1,
mstrCity, , lstrState, mstrPostalCode, mstrCountry)

cMPTApp is a function that returns a pointer to the open MapPoint
application.  This corresponds to a single global variable pointer to the
MapPoint Application, dimensioned private to the basInitMapPoint module,
initialized in an InitMapPoint() method, and then a function cMPtApp()
returns the pointer to that private global variable.

This class then can provide properties to get back the data originally
supplied (if you want that) such as the zipcode and so forth.  It also has
built into the class a call to "find" the address - in Init():

    Set mcolFindAddrRes = cMPtApp.ActiveMap.FindAddressResults(mstrAddr1,
mstrCity, , lstrState, mstrPostalCode, mstrCountry)

The ActiveMap.FindAddressResults returns a collection of location objects
that are candidates for the address you passed in.  What happens is that if
the address does not resolve to a single address then MapPoint will return 0
to N possible locations that MIGHT be what you are looking for.

mcolFindAddrRes by the way is a collection in my class which holds all of
the location objects returned by ActiveMap.FindAddressResults.  You may or
may not even want this kept around after the Init() finishes.  It does allow
you to map all the "possible locations" if you want to see them for some
reason.

Having asked MapPoint to find the address, the class then checks to see if
exactly one location was returned in the collection.  First of all, I have
seen issues where the call to the FindAddressResults returned an automation
error so I check for errors first.  I get the feeling that the automation
errors were caused by operator error (me) but it caused me to put in the
check anyway.

If no error, then I check for just one location in the results collection:

        If mcolFindAddrRes.Count = 1 Then
            Set mLoc = mcolFindAddrRes.Item(1)
            mblnOneLoc = True
        Else
            mblnOneLoc = False
        End If

If there is just one location returned, I grab that location object and
store it in mLoc.  Mloc is the key to this class since it is the actual
location object for an address that MapPoint understands.  Having this
location object allows us to create a push pin, get distances to other
locations etc.

So by the time the Init() returns you either have a location object and a
Boolean saying you have just one, or you do not have a location object and
the Boolean says that you didn't find just one location for the address
supplied.  What I have found is that MapPoint is very sensitive to things
like "PO Box XXX" or "Suite 44" in the address1 field and fails to map to a
single location for such addresses.

The class then provides other functions useful to a location such as the
MapIt() method which places a pushpin into the map and stores the pushpin
object.  I do not automatically create push pins since some applications
don't need them.  The class also provides two distance methods which will
return the distance between this location and another location object passed
in.

Obviously error handling is still under development.  I have only been doing
this for two days, and that time includes a bunch of dev on the MapPoint
framework itself - which this class is a part of.

As an example of using this class, I am adding a couple of fields in my
application's Agency table to allow me to iterate through all the agencies
and try and map their address.  I want to do this up front, then not pull an
agency for mapping if I have already found it not mappable.  The code to do
that is immediately below.  As you can see, once the Location class is
built, using it is trivial and allows you to do a lot of stuff pretty
quickly.

Anyway, this should allow for a discussion of possibilities with MapPoint.
By having a class for the location, you can wrap any and all code and
properties that you think a location needs into a wrapper and use it quickly
and easily.  

'****************************************
'Class usage code - map all agencies that are mappable
'****************************************

Function TestAgencyMapAddr()
Dim db As DAO.Database
Dim rst As DAO.Recordset
Dim strSQL As String
Dim lclsLocation As clsLocation
Const cintAgency = 1

    MPtInit CurrentProject.Connection
    With cMPtApp
        .Top = 0
        .Left = 0
        .WindowState = geoWindowStateMaximize
        .Visible = True
    End With
    strSQL = "SELECT * " & _
                "FROM qSelAgencyMapAddr " & _
                "WHERE AG_DteMappable IS NULL"
    Set db = CurrentDb
    Set rst = db.OpenRecordset(strSQL)
    With rst
        While Not .EOF
            Set lclsLocation = New clsLocation
            lclsLocation.init !Name, cintAgency, !Addr1, !City, !State, !Zip
            If lclsLocation.pOneLoc Then
                lclsLocation.mMapIt
            End If
            .MoveNext
            DoEvents
        Wend
    End With
End Function


'****************************************
'The class code
'****************************************

Option Compare Database
Option Explicit

Private mintType As Integer                 'The type of location.  Defined
by application.  For example, 1 = business, 2 = personal etc.
Private mstrName As String                  'The location name - company
name, person name etc.
Private mstrAddr1 As String                 'The address fields needed to
find a location
Private mstrCity As String
Private mstrState As String
Private mstrPostalCode As String
Private mstrCountry As String
Private mblnOneLoc As Boolean            'True if more than one location
matches the address info
Private mblnAutomationErr As Boolean
Private mcolFindAddrRes As MapPoint.FindResults  'The collection of possible
locations if more than one
Private mLoc As MapPoint.Location           'The specific location object if
narrowed down to just one
Private mPushPin As MapPoint.Pushpin        'The pushpin associated with the
location

Private Sub Class_Terminate()
    Set mLoc = Nothing
    Set mcolFindAddrRes = Nothing
    Set mPushPin = Nothing
End Sub
Function init(strName As String, lintType As Integer, lstrAddr1 As String,
lstrCity As String, _
                lstrState As String, lstrPostalCode As String, _
                Optional lstrCountry As String = "USA")
On Error GoTo Err_init
    mstrName = strName
    mintType = lintType
    mstrAddr1 = lstrAddr1
    mstrCity = lstrCity
    mstrState = lstrState
    mstrPostalCode = lstrPostalCode
    mstrCountry = lstrCountry
    On Error Resume Next
    Set mcolFindAddrRes = cMPtApp.ActiveMap.FindAddressResults(mstrAddr1,
mstrCity, , lstrState, mstrPostalCode, mstrCountry)
    If Err = 0 Then
        If mcolFindAddrRes.Count = 1 Then
            Set mLoc = mcolFindAddrRes.Item(1)
            mblnOneLoc = True
        Else
            mblnOneLoc = False
        End If
    Else
        mblnOneLoc = False
        mblnAutomationErr = True
    End If
Exit_init:
Exit Function
Err_init:
        MsgBox Err.Description, , "Error in Function clsLocation.init"
        Resume Exit_init
    Resume 0    '.FOR TROUBLESHOOTING
End Function
Property Get pOneLoc() As Boolean
    pOneLoc = mblnOneLoc
End PropertyProperty Get colFindAddrRes() As MapPoint.FindResults
    Set colFindAddrRes = mcolFindAddrRes
End Property
Property Get pLoc() As MapPoint.Location
    Set pLoc = mLoc
End Property
Property Get pPushPin() As MapPoint.Pushpin
    Set pPushPin = mPushPin
End Property
Property Get pName() As String
    pName = mstrName
End Property
Function mMapIt() As Boolean
On Error GoTo Err_mMapIt
Dim objLoc As MapPoint.Location
    If mblnAutomationErr Then
        Debug.Print mstrName & " Could not be looked up"
    Else
        If mblnOneLoc Then
            Set mPushPin = cMPtApp.ActiveMap.AddPushpin(mcolFindAddrRes(1),
mstrName)
            mMapIt = True
        Else
            Debug.Print mcolFindAddrRes.Count & " locations found for " &
mstrName
        End If
    End If
'    For Each objLoc In mcolFindAddrRes
'        Set mPushPin = cMPtApp.ActiveMap.AddPushpin(objLoc, mstrName)
'    Next objLoc
Exit_mMapIt:
Exit Function
Err_mMapIt:
        MsgBox Err.Description, , "Error in Function clsLocation.mMapIt"
        Resume Exit_mMapIt
    Resume 0    '.FOR TROUBLESHOOTING
End Function

Public Function DistanceAsTheCrowFlies(oLoc2 As MapPoint.Location) As Double
    If mblnOneLoc Then
        DistanceAsTheCrowFlies = mLoc.DistanceTo(oLoc2)
    Else
        DistanceAsTheCrowFlies = 0
    End If
End Function
Public Function DistanceAsTheCarDrives(oLoc2 As MapPoint.Location) As Double
On Error GoTo Err_DistanceAsTheCarDrives
    With cMPt.cMPtMap
        .ActiveRoute.Clear
        .ActiveRoute.Waypoints.Add mLoc, "Start"
        .ActiveRoute.Waypoints.Add oLoc2, "End"
        .ActiveRoute.Calculate
        DistanceAsTheCarDrives = .ActiveRoute.Distance
    End With
Exit_DistanceAsTheCarDrives:
Exit Function
Err_DistanceAsTheCarDrives:
        MsgBox Err.Description, , "Error in Function
clsFWMapPt.DistanceAsTheCarDrives"
        Resume Exit_DistanceAsTheCarDrives
    Resume 0    '.FOR TROUBLESHOOTING
End Function


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From mmattys at rochester.rr.com  Fri Jun  3 09:37:18 2005
From: mmattys at rochester.rr.com (Michael R Mattys)
Date: Fri, 3 Jun 2005 10:37:18 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] MapPoint location class
References: <000101c56845$dcc88c90$6c7aa8c0@ColbyM6805>
Message-ID: <02d801c56849$c0438940$0202a8c0@default>

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From: "John W. Colby" <jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com>
To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'"
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Friday, June 03, 2005 10:09 AM
Subject: [AccessD] MapPoint location class


> Paul,
>
> This code (see below this message) is a class clsLocation that I developed

> '****************************************
> 'The class code
> '****************************************

John,

Nice !
You could optionally add another recordset to populate
addresses that MapPoint can't find and present it at the
end of your routine.

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From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com  Fri Jun  3 10:08:28 2005
From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (John W. Colby)
Date: Fri, 03 Jun 2005 11:08:28 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] MapPoint location class
In-Reply-To: <02d801c56849$c0438940$0202a8c0@default>
Message-ID: <000201c5684e$1bb80630$6c7aa8c0@ColbyM6805>

It is quite cool watching this populate the map with pushpins.  I just setup
a couple of timer classes to time how long it takes to do this.  To "map"
3686 agencies took 217 seconds for about 60 milliseconds per agency.  This
on an AMD64 3ghz laptop with 1.2g ram and a fast hard drive.

Remember though that this processed 3686 agencies but didn't resolve all of
those to a single location.  I didn't count the actual number resolved
(sigh) and pushpins created.

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Sent: Friday, June 03, 2005 10:37 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] MapPoint location class


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To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'"
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Sent: Friday, June 03, 2005 10:09 AM
Subject: [AccessD] MapPoint location class


> Paul,
>
> This code (see below this message) is a class clsLocation that I 
> developed

> '****************************************
> 'The class code
> '****************************************

John,

Nice !
You could optionally add another recordset to populate addresses that
MapPoint can't find and present it at the end of your routine.

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From cfoust at infostatsystems.com  Fri Jun  3 10:10:49 2005
From: cfoust at infostatsystems.com (Charlotte Foust)
Date: Fri, 3 Jun 2005 08:10:49 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Error Loading Project?
Message-ID: <E61FC1D4B1918244905B113C680BEA86873A6E@infoserver01.infostat.local>

I can't say that I agree.  No, I wouldn't go back to 2000, but I don't
think installing a later version on my machine should cause problems on
a machine running 2000 if I share an mdb with them.

Charlotte Foust


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From: Jim Lawrence [mailto:accessd at shaw.ca] 
Sent: Thursday, June 02, 2005 11:42 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Error Loading Project?


Charlotte: Good, honestly, who would ever go back... now the going back
option has been eliminated. :-)

It is a good plan.

Thanks
Jim

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Foust
Sent: Thursday, June 02, 2005 12:53 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Error Loading Project?

They don't break in XP and 2003, only the other direction.

Charlotte Foust


-----Original Message-----
From: Jim Lawrence [mailto:accessd at shaw.ca] 
Sent: Thursday, June 02, 2005 11:32 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Error Loading Project?


So what would be the best way to import Access into XP and 2003 without
major issues other than hand coding?

Jim 

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Sent: Thursday, June 02, 2005 11:25 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Error Loading Project?

2003 breaks it the same way as XP.

Charlotte Foust


-----Original Message-----
From: Francisco Tapia [mailto:fhtapia at gmail.com] 
Sent: Thursday, June 02, 2005 8:56 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Error Loading Project?


Not at this time, I Just ordered Access 2003, currenlty I have Office 97
& 2000 w/ Outlook  2003.

On 6/1/05, John W. Colby <jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com> wrote:
> Do you happen to have 2K and XP on the same machine?

> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Francisco 
> Tapia
> Sent: Wednesday, June 01, 2005 8:47 PM
> To: access-l at peach.ease.lsoft.com; Access Developers discussion and
problem
> solving
> Subject: [AccessD] Error Loading Project?
> 
> 
> Recently I've been plauged by this error:
> 
> I have 2 Access ADP's , the primary is the dev copy and I write in 
> this copy all my development code, once compiled, and tested I 
> "EXPORT" the new form or modified form to the Production .adp copy 
> this file used to be on the network, but due to the more recent 
> network errors that I was plauged w/ I decided to simply create a 
> folder on my pc called "build" and export to that folder instead, 
> everything had been working great, and in fact each copy compiles w/o 
> errors... but if I export from the dev on drive C to the build on 
> drive C I end up w/ an error on the build copy as "Error Loading 
> Project, disk or network error, continue loading?" if you click ok I 
> find that the module is empty.  If I then (while in the build copy), 
> IMPORT the same form, then I get a new Form1 classic import, I delete 
> the corrupted form and rename Form1 to Form and all is well again... 
> why can I not export anymore?
> 
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From carbonnb at gmail.com  Fri Jun  3 10:57:31 2005
From: carbonnb at gmail.com (Bryan Carbonnell)
Date: Fri, 3 Jun 2005 11:57:31 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Friday Joke Day
In-Reply-To: <A5B5AA20555F594BA7B6BD2048E49E4376F96A@m-niosh-5.niosh.cdc.gov>
References: <A5B5AA20555F594BA7B6BD2048E49E4376F96A@m-niosh-5.niosh.cdc.gov>
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On 6/3/05, Nicholson, Karen <cyx5 at cdc.gov> wrote:
> Just a reminder...

OK. Here you go.

An interesting article on new technology:

Article by Freelance Journalist  I. Reid

Introducing the new Bio-Optic Organized Knowledge device - BOOK.

BOOK is a revolutionary breakthrough in technology; no wires, no electric
circuits, no batteries, nothing to be connected or switched on.  It's easy
to use.  Even a child can operate it.

Compact and portable, it can be used anywhere - even sitting in an armchair
by the fire - yet it is powerful enough to hold as much as a CD-ROM.

BOOK is constructed of sequentially numbered sheets of paper (recyclable),
each capable of holding thousands of bits of information.  The pages are
locked together with one of two different custom devices, a BINDER, or
DOUBLE STITCH BINDING, which keep the sheets in their correct sequence.
Opaque Paper Technology (OPT) allows manufacturers to use both sides of the
sheet, doubling the information density.

Each sheet is scanned optically, registering information directly to your
brain.  A flick of the finger takes you to the next sheet.

BOOK never crashes, nor requires rebooting.  The 'browse' function allows
instant movement to any sheet, forward or backward, as one wishes.  Many
come with an 'index' feature, which pinpoints the exact location of any
selected information for instant retrieval.

Portable, durable and affordable, BOOK is being hailed as a precursor of a
new entertainment wave.  BOOK's appeal seems so certain that thousands of
content creators have committed to the platform and investor are reportedly
flocking to the medium.  Look for a flood of new BOOKs at your local
BOOKstore!

-- 
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preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, totally worn out,
shouting "What a great ride!"


From tim at irwingreenhouses.com  Fri Jun  3 11:50:38 2005
From: tim at irwingreenhouses.com (Tim Thiessen)
Date: Fri, 03 Jun 2005 11:50:38 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Friday Joke Day
In-Reply-To: <A5B5AA20555F594BA7B6BD2048E49E4376F96A@m-niosh-5.niosh.cdc.gov>
Message-ID: <42A0440E.17229.B2A3FF6@localhost>

On 3 Jun 2005 at 7:34, Nicholson, Karen wrote:

> Just a reminder...


Have you been guilty of looking at others your own age and thinking, 
"Surely I cannot look that old?" Well, I was sitting in the waiting room 
for my first appointment with a new dentist. I noticed his DDS diploma, 
which bore his full name.

Suddenly, I remembered that a tall, handsome, dark-haired boy with the 
same name had been in my high school class some 40-odd years ago. Could 
he be the same guy that I had a secret crush on, way back then?

Upon seeing him, however, I quickly discarded any such thought. This 
balding, gray-haired man with the deeply lined face was way, way too old 
to have been my classmate...or could he?

After he examined my teeth, I asked him if he had attended Morgan Park 
High School. 

"Yes. Yes. I did...I'm a Morgan Mustang," he gleamed with pride.

"When did you graduate?" I asked.

He answered, "In 1959. Why do you ask?"

"You were in my class!" I exclaimed.

He looked at me closely...and that ugly, old, wrinkled jerk asked, 
"What did you teach?"


today's THOUGHT============================

Why is it that at class reunions you feel younger than everyone else 
looks? 



Tim Thiessen



From tinanfields at torchlake.com  Sat Jun  4 10:20:58 2005
From: tinanfields at torchlake.com (Tina Norris Fields)
Date: Sat, 04 Jun 2005 11:20:58 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Invitations DB Design Ideas
References: <001f01c5672c$d20f09b0$6401a8c0@laptop1>
Message-ID: <42A1C6DA.6020500@torchlake.com>

Joe,
My Mom died January 29, 2005.  She despised funerals, so my Dad planned 
a special celebration of life for her.  Not wanting to put our family 
members and friends at additional risk of travel accident (it being the 
middle of winter here in northern Michigan, he chose April 27 (their 
wedding anniversary) as the date for the celebration.  We had time to 
plan properly, thank those who had already contacted us, organize the 
invitation list, and handle the designation for memorial contributions. 
 I put the little database together.  As Dad thought of people that 
should be notified or invited, the list grew from an anticipated 50 or 
so to over 400 - I needed my database!

For my mother's memorial celebration mailing list I used two tables: 
 tblHouseholds and tblIndividuals.  That allowed me to put as many 
people in a household (or office, as the case often was) as I might 
need.  That was useful in running my "how many people might come" 
reports.  When I got a reply, I updated my HowMany field with the actual 
number given, to help with my "how many people are really coming" 
reports.  There was a special science education fund in our Three Lakes 
Association, begun by my family, and to which and memorial contributions 
were given (some came to us, others were sent directly to TLA, so I 
needed some way to keep track).

tbl Households
HH_ID
HH_Name  (to alphabetize my list)
HH_MailingName  (first line of the mailing label)
HH_Str_Address  (street address)
HH_POB_Address  (po box address)
HH_City
HH_State  (for US and Canada addresses)
HH_Zip  (for US addresses)
HH_PostCode  (for non-US addresses)
HH_Country
HH_Tel
HH_email
HH_Invite (ysn to invite this HH)
HH_Thank (ysn to thank this HH for previous communication)
HH_TLA  (ysn did this HH make a memorial contribution to TLA?)
HH_Coming  (ysn anyone in this HH coming?)
HH_HowMany (after reply to our invitation)
HH_Comments (can't get away from needing this in family celebration 
planning)

tblIndividuals
Ind_ID
HH_ID
IndLastName
IndFirstName

My father was completely amazed to have a mailing list of
1) those to receive only a notification
2) those to receive notification and invitation to the ceremony
3) those to receive notification, invitation, and thanks for earlier 
communication

He was further amazed to have up-to-date reports showing who had 
responded, who was coming (and how many), and who was not.  Many who 
were unable to come wanted Dad to know why, so that information was 
recorded in the Comments field.

I hope this is helpful to you,
Tina


Joe Hecht wrote:

>So my niece got engaged and I figure I better get my DB going soon.
> 
>Right now the database is one table,
> 
>These are typed in to readable and not names with spaces etc:
> 
>I rec num
>1st Person first Name
>1st person last name
>2cd person first name
>2cd person last name
>Address fields
>Adults Invitation Represents
>Children Invitation represents
>Contact phone
>Memo
>Source (Bride/Groom/Family/friend?)
>Invited Y/N
>Coming y/n
>Gift received Y/N
>Note Sent Y/N
> 
> 
> 
> Looking for ideas to normalize this
> 
>OK wise guys, I know no wedding is normal but...
> 
> 
> 
>Joe Hecht
>Los Angeles CA
> 
>  
>




From tinanfields at torchlake.com  Sat Jun  4 12:10:35 2005
From: tinanfields at torchlake.com (Tina Norris Fields)
Date: Sat, 04 Jun 2005 13:10:35 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] The Sleep Advisor - Version 5 - Call for Beta Testers
References: <010d01c56601$38f04cc0$6501a8c0@HAL9004>
Message-ID: <42A1E08B.7020903@torchlake.com>

Hi Rocky,

I downloaded it and completed it and sent off the email to 
rrnaiman at cox.net.  It was interesting and fun to do.  I'll be interested 
in following the "career" of this program.  

Best,
Tina



Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software wrote:

>Dear List:
>
>Version 5 of The Sleep Advisor is now ready for beta testing:
>
>All new graphics!
>Reorganized friendlier reporting!
>All new bugs!
>
>There is a Wise/Sagekey run-time download available at http://www.drnaiman.com/sleepad.php
>
>or for those of you who have Access 2003 you can email me off line and I'll send you just the mde.
>
>Although it runs on Windows 2000 I have noticed some problems that don't affect the operation or outcome of the program - just the esthetics (in particular, I have an embedded background graphic that doesn't display under W2K but does fine under WXP, go figure).
>
>For those who may not be aware, The Sleep Advisor is an expert system designed to diagnose the most common sleep problems - insomnias, apnea, narcolepsy, hypersomnia, etc., as well as identify a variety of sleep health related issues such as nocturia, bruxism, jet lag, shift work, anxiety disorders, bed and bedroom problems, etc.  The report includes a Guidebook to remedies and recommendations the contents of which are tailored to the user's responses and sleep health analysis.
>
>We still need a lot of beta testing to perfect the diagnostic engine.  In addition, any technical feedback I could get from this list would be of great value.  
>
>Hopefully for your time and efforts you'll receive some value from the reports.
>
>With many thanks in advance,
>
>Rocky Smolin
>Beach Access Software
>http://www.e-z-mrp.com
>858-259-4334
>
>  
>




From bchacc at san.rr.com  Sat Jun  4 12:26:20 2005
From: bchacc at san.rr.com (Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software)
Date: Sat, 4 Jun 2005 10:26:20 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] The Sleep Advisor - Version 5 - Call for Beta Testers
References: <010d01c56601$38f04cc0$6501a8c0@HAL9004>
	<42A1E08B.7020903@torchlake.com>
Message-ID: <012c01c5692a$864f3d10$6901a8c0@HAL9004>

Tina:

Many thanks for your time.  We should be sending you your report shortly. 
Hopefully it will have some useful info in it.

Best regards,


Rocky Smolin
Beach Access Software
http://www.e-z-mrp.com
858-259-4334

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Tina Norris Fields" <tinanfields at torchlake.com>
To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving" 
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Saturday, June 04, 2005 10:10 AM
Subject: Re: [AccessD] The Sleep Advisor - Version 5 - Call for Beta Testers


> Hi Rocky,
>
> I downloaded it and completed it and sent off the email to 
> rrnaiman at cox.net.  It was interesting and fun to do.  I'll be interested 
> in following the "career" of this program.
> Best,
> Tina
>
>
>
> Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software wrote:
>
>>Dear List:
>>
>>Version 5 of The Sleep Advisor is now ready for beta testing:
>>
>>All new graphics!
>>Reorganized friendlier reporting!
>>All new bugs!
>>
>>There is a Wise/Sagekey run-time download available at 
>>http://www.drnaiman.com/sleepad.php
>>
>>or for those of you who have Access 2003 you can email me off line and 
>>I'll send you just the mde.
>>
>>Although it runs on Windows 2000 I have noticed some problems that don't 
>>affect the operation or outcome of the program - just the esthetics (in 
>>particular, I have an embedded background graphic that doesn't display 
>>under W2K but does fine under WXP, go figure).
>>
>>For those who may not be aware, The Sleep Advisor is an expert system 
>>designed to diagnose the most common sleep problems - insomnias, apnea, 
>>narcolepsy, hypersomnia, etc., as well as identify a variety of sleep 
>>health related issues such as nocturia, bruxism, jet lag, shift work, 
>>anxiety disorders, bed and bedroom problems, etc.  The report includes a 
>>Guidebook to remedies and recommendations the contents of which are 
>>tailored to the user's responses and sleep health analysis.
>>
>>We still need a lot of beta testing to perfect the diagnostic engine.  In 
>>addition, any technical feedback I could get from this list would be of 
>>great value.
>>Hopefully for your time and efforts you'll receive some value from the 
>>reports.
>>
>>With many thanks in advance,
>>
>>Rocky Smolin
>>Beach Access Software
>>http://www.e-z-mrp.com
>>858-259-4334
>>
>>
>
>
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> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com
> 



From kost36 at otenet.gr  Sat Jun  4 13:58:40 2005
From: kost36 at otenet.gr (Kostas Konstantinidis)
Date: Sat, 4 Jun 2005 21:58:40 +0300
Subject: [AccessD] Trying to Eliminate white space in a report it doesn't
	work
References: <71409e737f5144de8915a5d7a975fa34@christopherhawkins.com>
Message-ID: <012d01c56937$6c7ff4d0$0100a8c0@KOST36>

Hi all,
in a report I use the follown

=IIf(IsNull([Production]);"";[Production] & Chr(13) & Chr(10)) & 
IIf(IsNull([PROD_ADDRESS]);"";[PROD_ADDRESS] & Chr(13) & Chr(10)) & 
IIf(IsNull([Address2]);"";[Address2] & Chr(13) & Chr(10)) & 
IIf(IsNull([Communication]);"";[Communication]) & Chr(13) & Chr(10) & 
IIf(IsNull([PROD_E_MAIL]);"";[PROD_E_MAIL]) & Chr(13) & Chr(10)

but in case one of  the in between Production and Addess2 records are blank 
and PROD_E_MAIL is not, then it seems it doesn't eliminate the vertical 
space holding white space
am I doing something wrong or it needs to CanShrink the Details too?

I also tried the Microsoft's Public Function on 
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;299011 but the 
result remains the same

Thank's
Kostas Konstantinidis 




From mikedorism at verizon.net  Sat Jun  4 19:25:55 2005
From: mikedorism at verizon.net (Mike & Doris Manning)
Date: Sat, 04 Jun 2005 20:25:55 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Trying to Eliminate white space in a report it doesn't
	work
In-Reply-To: <012d01c56937$6c7ff4d0$0100a8c0@KOST36>
Message-ID: <000001c56965$250fe820$2f01a8c0@hargrove.internal>

You are correct that you do need to set the Details section to CanShrink =
Yes.

Doris Manning
Database Administrator
Hargrove Inc.
www.hargroveinc.com


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Kostas
Konstantinidis
Sent: Saturday, June 04, 2005 2:59 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: [AccessD] Trying to Eliminate white space in a report it doesn't
work


Hi all,
in a report I use the follown

=IIf(IsNull([Production]);"";[Production] & Chr(13) & Chr(10)) & 
IIf(IsNull([PROD_ADDRESS]);"";[PROD_ADDRESS] & Chr(13) & Chr(10)) & 
IIf(IsNull([Address2]);"";[Address2] & Chr(13) & Chr(10)) & 
IIf(IsNull([Communication]);"";[Communication]) & Chr(13) & Chr(10) & 
IIf(IsNull([PROD_E_MAIL]);"";[PROD_E_MAIL]) & Chr(13) & Chr(10)

but in case one of  the in between Production and Addess2 records are blank 
and PROD_E_MAIL is not, then it seems it doesn't eliminate the vertical 
space holding white space
am I doing something wrong or it needs to CanShrink the Details too?

I also tried the Microsoft's Public Function on 
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;299011 but the 
result remains the same

Thank's
Kostas Konstantinidis 


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From stuart at lexacorp.com.pg  Sat Jun  4 19:55:37 2005
From: stuart at lexacorp.com.pg (Stuart McLachlan)
Date: Sun, 05 Jun 2005 10:55:37 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] Trying to Eliminate white space in a report it doesn't
	work
In-Reply-To: <012d01c56937$6c7ff4d0$0100a8c0@KOST36>
Message-ID: <42A2DA29.8784.A7540D4@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>

On 4 Jun 2005 at 21:58, Kostas Konstantinidis wrote:

> Hi all,
> in a report I use the follown
> 
> =IIf(IsNull([Production]);"";[Production] & Chr(13) & Chr(10)) & 
> IIf(IsNull([PROD_ADDRESS]);"";[PROD_ADDRESS] & Chr(13) & Chr(10)) & 
> IIf(IsNull([Address2]);"";[Address2] & Chr(13) & Chr(10)) & 
> IIf(IsNull([Communication]);"";[Communication]) & Chr(13) & Chr(10) & 
> IIf(IsNull([PROD_E_MAIL]);"";[PROD_E_MAIL]) & Chr(13) & Chr(10)
> 
> but in case one of  the in between Production and Addess2 records are blank 
> and PROD_E_MAIL is not, then it seems it doesn't eliminate the vertical 
> space holding white space
> am I doing something wrong or it needs to CanShrink the Details too?
> 

There is a difference between Null  an empty string  ("").. If you are 
getting a vertical blank line, I'd suspect that one of the fields contains 
an empty string rather than a Null.

Try replacing IsNull with NZ([Production],"") = ""  




-- 
Stuart




From kost36 at otenet.gr  Sun Jun  5 01:59:52 2005
From: kost36 at otenet.gr (Kostas Konstantinidis)
Date: Sun, 5 Jun 2005 09:59:52 +0300
Subject: [AccessD] Trying to Eliminate white space in a report it
	doesn'twork
References: <42A2DA29.8784.A7540D4@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>
Message-ID: <006101c5699c$2cb6f690$07a1fea9@studio2>

Mike & Doris and Stuart thank's a lot for your responses
here is the query on which the report is based on

SELECT RT_AM_production.AM, IIf(IsNull([Producer]),"",[Producer]) & 
IIf(IsNull([person]),"",(" / " & [person])) AS Production, 
RT_AM_production.PROD_ADDRESS, IIf([PROD_CODE] Is Null,[town] & "" & 
[country],[PROD_CODE] & "" & [town] & "" & [country]) AS Address2, 
IIf(IsNull([PROD_TLE]),"",("Tel: " & [PROD_TLE])) & 
IIf(IsNull([PROD_FAX]),"",(" Fax: " & [PROD_FAX])) AS Communication, 
RT_AM_production.PROD_E_MAIL
FROM T_town RIGHT JOIN (T_producer RIGHT JOIN (T_person RIGHT JOIN 
(T_country RIGHT JOIN RT_AM_production ON T_country.ID_country = 
RT_AM_production.ID_PROD_COUNTRY) ON T_person.ID_person = 
RT_AM_production.ID_PROD_PERSON) ON T_producer.ID_producer = 
RT_AM_production.IDproducer) ON T_town.IDDIR_TOWN = 
RT_AM_production.ID_PROD_TOWN;

Running it seems to keep no blank spaces into the records.
The problem must be between fields Address2 and Communication but I cant 
understand the real reason

thank's
/ kostas


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Stuart McLachlan" <stuart at lexacorp.com.pg>
To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving" 
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Sunday, June 05, 2005 3:55 AM
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Trying to Eliminate white space in a report it 
doesn'twork


> On 4 Jun 2005 at 21:58, Kostas Konstantinidis wrote:
>
>> Hi all,
>> in a report I use the follown
>>
>> =IIf(IsNull([Production]);"";[Production] & Chr(13) & Chr(10)) &
>> IIf(IsNull([PROD_ADDRESS]);"";[PROD_ADDRESS] & Chr(13) & Chr(10)) &
>> IIf(IsNull([Address2]);"";[Address2] & Chr(13) & Chr(10)) &
>> IIf(IsNull([Communication]);"";[Communication]) & Chr(13) & Chr(10) &
>> IIf(IsNull([PROD_E_MAIL]);"";[PROD_E_MAIL]) & Chr(13) & Chr(10)
>>
>> but in case one of  the in between Production and Addess2 records are 
>> blank
>> and PROD_E_MAIL is not, then it seems it doesn't eliminate the vertical
>> space holding white space
>> am I doing something wrong or it needs to CanShrink the Details too?
>>
>
> There is a difference between Null  an empty string  ("").. If you are
> getting a vertical blank line, I'd suspect that one of the fields contains
> an empty string rather than a Null.
>
> Try replacing IsNull with NZ([Production],"") = ""
>
>
>
>
> -- 
> Stuart
>
>
> -- 
> AccessD mailing list
> AccessD at databaseadvisors.com
> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd
> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com
>
> 




From Gustav at cactus.dk  Sun Jun  5 03:52:53 2005
From: Gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Sun, 05 Jun 2005 10:52:53 +0200
Subject: [AccessD] Trying to Eliminate white space in a report
	itdoesn'twork
Message-ID: <s2a2d995.014@cactus.dk>

Hi Kostas

Adjust it to:

SELECT 
  RT_AM_production.AM, 
  [Producer] & (" / " + [person]) AS Production, 
  RT_AM_production.PROD_ADDRESS, 
  ([PROD_CODE] + " ") & [town] & (" " + [country]) AS Address2, 
  ("Tel: " + [PROD_TLE]) & (" Fax: " + [PROD_FAX]) AS Communication, 
  RT_AM_production.PROD_E_MAIL
FROM 
  T_town 
RIGHT JOIN 
  (T_producer RIGHT JOIN 
    (T_person RIGHT JOIN 
      (T_country RIGHT JOIN 
        RT_AM_production 
        ON 
        T_country.ID_country = RT_AM_production.ID_PROD_COUNTRY) 
      ON 
      T_person.ID_person = RT_AM_production.ID_PROD_PERSON) 
    ON 
    T_producer.ID_producer = RT_AM_production.IDproducer) 
  ON 
  T_town.IDDIR_TOWN = RT_AM_production.ID_PROD_TOWN;

This will return Null values for empty fields, and now your code in the
report will work and can be reduced to this:

=([Production] + Chr(13) & Chr(10)) & 
([PROD_ADDRESS] + Chr(13) & Chr(10)) & 
([Address2] + & Chr(13) & Chr(10)) & 
([Communication] + Chr(13) & Chr(10)) & 
[PROD_E_MAIL]

The plus sign has the effect that (Null + somestring) is still Null.

/gustav
 
>>> kost36 at otenet.gr 06/05 8:59 am >>>
Mike & Doris and Stuart thank's a lot for your responses
here is the query on which the report is based on

SELECT RT_AM_production.AM, IIf(IsNull([Producer]),"",[Producer]) & 
IIf(IsNull([person]),"",(" / " & [person])) AS Production, 
RT_AM_production.PROD_ADDRESS, IIf([PROD_CODE] Is Null,[town] & "" & 
[country],[PROD_CODE] & "" & [town] & "" & [country]) AS Address2, 
IIf(IsNull([PROD_TLE]),"",("Tel: " & [PROD_TLE])) & 
IIf(IsNull([PROD_FAX]),"",(" Fax: " & [PROD_FAX])) AS Communication, 
RT_AM_production.PROD_E_MAIL
FROM T_town RIGHT JOIN (T_producer RIGHT JOIN (T_person RIGHT JOIN 
(T_country RIGHT JOIN RT_AM_production ON T_country.ID_country = 
RT_AM_production.ID_PROD_COUNTRY) ON T_person.ID_person = 
RT_AM_production.ID_PROD_PERSON) ON T_producer.ID_producer = 
RT_AM_production.IDproducer) ON T_town.IDDIR_TOWN = 
RT_AM_production.ID_PROD_TOWN;

Running it seems to keep no blank spaces into the records.
The problem must be between fields Address2 and Communication but I
cant 
understand the real reason

thank's
/ kostas


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Stuart McLachlan" <stuart at lexacorp.com.pg>
To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving" 
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Sunday, June 05, 2005 3:55 AM
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Trying to Eliminate white space in a report it 
doesn'twork


> On 4 Jun 2005 at 21:58, Kostas Konstantinidis wrote:
>
>> Hi all,
>> in a report I use the follown
>>
>> =IIf(IsNull([Production]);"";[Production] & Chr(13) & Chr(10)) &
>> IIf(IsNull([PROD_ADDRESS]);"";[PROD_ADDRESS] & Chr(13) & Chr(10)) &
>> IIf(IsNull([Address2]);"";[Address2] & Chr(13) & Chr(10)) &
>> IIf(IsNull([Communication]);"";[Communication]) & Chr(13) & Chr(10)
&
>> IIf(IsNull([PROD_E_MAIL]);"";[PROD_E_MAIL]) & Chr(13) & Chr(10)
>>
>> but in case one of  the in between Production and Addess2 records
are 
>> blank
>> and PROD_E_MAIL is not, then it seems it doesn't eliminate the
vertical
>> space holding white space
>> am I doing something wrong or it needs to CanShrink the Details
too?
>>
>
> There is a difference between Null  an empty string  ("").. If you
are
> getting a vertical blank line, I'd suspect that one of the fields
contains
> an empty string rather than a Null.
>
> Try replacing IsNull with NZ([Production],"") = ""



From kost36 at otenet.gr  Sun Jun  5 04:44:21 2005
From: kost36 at otenet.gr (Kostas Konstantinidis)
Date: Sun, 5 Jun 2005 12:44:21 +0300
Subject: [AccessD] Trying to Eliminate white space in a reportitdoesn'twork
References: <s2a2d995.014@cactus.dk>
Message-ID: <00bd01c569b3$268e9c70$07a1fea9@studio2>

Gustav thank's
now it works perfect

/kostas
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Gustav Brock" <Gustav at cactus.dk>
To: <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Sunday, June 05, 2005 11:52 AM
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Trying to Eliminate white space in a 
reportitdoesn'twork


> Hi Kostas
>
> Adjust it to:
>
> SELECT
>  RT_AM_production.AM,
>  [Producer] & (" / " + [person]) AS Production,
>  RT_AM_production.PROD_ADDRESS,
>  ([PROD_CODE] + " ") & [town] & (" " + [country]) AS Address2,
>  ("Tel: " + [PROD_TLE]) & (" Fax: " + [PROD_FAX]) AS Communication,
>  RT_AM_production.PROD_E_MAIL
> FROM
>  T_town
> RIGHT JOIN
>  (T_producer RIGHT JOIN
>    (T_person RIGHT JOIN
>      (T_country RIGHT JOIN
>        RT_AM_production
>        ON
>        T_country.ID_country = RT_AM_production.ID_PROD_COUNTRY)
>      ON
>      T_person.ID_person = RT_AM_production.ID_PROD_PERSON)
>    ON
>    T_producer.ID_producer = RT_AM_production.IDproducer)
>  ON
>  T_town.IDDIR_TOWN = RT_AM_production.ID_PROD_TOWN;
>
> This will return Null values for empty fields, and now your code in the
> report will work and can be reduced to this:
>
> =([Production] + Chr(13) & Chr(10)) &
> ([PROD_ADDRESS] + Chr(13) & Chr(10)) &
> ([Address2] + & Chr(13) & Chr(10)) &
> ([Communication] + Chr(13) & Chr(10)) &
> [PROD_E_MAIL]
>
> The plus sign has the effect that (Null + somestring) is still Null.
>
> /gustav
>
>>>> kost36 at otenet.gr 06/05 8:59 am >>>
> Mike & Doris and Stuart thank's a lot for your responses
> here is the query on which the report is based on
>
> SELECT RT_AM_production.AM, IIf(IsNull([Producer]),"",[Producer]) &
> IIf(IsNull([person]),"",(" / " & [person])) AS Production,
> RT_AM_production.PROD_ADDRESS, IIf([PROD_CODE] Is Null,[town] & "" &
> [country],[PROD_CODE] & "" & [town] & "" & [country]) AS Address2,
> IIf(IsNull([PROD_TLE]),"",("Tel: " & [PROD_TLE])) &
> IIf(IsNull([PROD_FAX]),"",(" Fax: " & [PROD_FAX])) AS Communication,
> RT_AM_production.PROD_E_MAIL
> FROM T_town RIGHT JOIN (T_producer RIGHT JOIN (T_person RIGHT JOIN
> (T_country RIGHT JOIN RT_AM_production ON T_country.ID_country =
> RT_AM_production.ID_PROD_COUNTRY) ON T_person.ID_person =
> RT_AM_production.ID_PROD_PERSON) ON T_producer.ID_producer =
> RT_AM_production.IDproducer) ON T_town.IDDIR_TOWN =
> RT_AM_production.ID_PROD_TOWN;
>
> Running it seems to keep no blank spaces into the records.
> The problem must be between fields Address2 and Communication but I
> cant
> understand the real reason
>
> thank's
> / kostas
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Stuart McLachlan" <stuart at lexacorp.com.pg>
> To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving"
> <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
> Sent: Sunday, June 05, 2005 3:55 AM
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] Trying to Eliminate white space in a report it
> doesn'twork
>
>
>> On 4 Jun 2005 at 21:58, Kostas Konstantinidis wrote:
>>
>>> Hi all,
>>> in a report I use the follown
>>>
>>> =IIf(IsNull([Production]);"";[Production] & Chr(13) & Chr(10)) &
>>> IIf(IsNull([PROD_ADDRESS]);"";[PROD_ADDRESS] & Chr(13) & Chr(10)) &
>>> IIf(IsNull([Address2]);"";[Address2] & Chr(13) & Chr(10)) &
>>> IIf(IsNull([Communication]);"";[Communication]) & Chr(13) & Chr(10)
> &
>>> IIf(IsNull([PROD_E_MAIL]);"";[PROD_E_MAIL]) & Chr(13) & Chr(10)
>>>
>>> but in case one of  the in between Production and Addess2 records
> are
>>> blank
>>> and PROD_E_MAIL is not, then it seems it doesn't eliminate the
> vertical
>>> space holding white space
>>> am I doing something wrong or it needs to CanShrink the Details
> too?
>>>
>>
>> There is a difference between Null  an empty string  ("").. If you
> are
>> getting a vertical blank line, I'd suspect that one of the fields
> contains
>> an empty string rather than a Null.
>>
>> Try replacing IsNull with NZ([Production],"") = ""
>
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From bgeldart at verizon.net  Sun Jun  5 09:49:47 2005
From: bgeldart at verizon.net (Bob Geldart)
Date: Sun, 05 Jun 2005 10:49:47 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] The Sleep Advisor - Version 5 - Call for Beta Testers
In-Reply-To: <010d01c56601$38f04cc0$6501a8c0@HAL9004>
References: <010d01c56601$38f04cc0$6501a8c0@HAL9004>
Message-ID: <6.2.1.2.0.20050605104652.040f9d38@incoming.verizon.net>

Rocky,

If you are still looking for beta testers, I'll take a look. I've had sleep 
problems off and on for some time. Not as bad now as when I was in college.

My son has also had some problems, too, so I may have him take it too.

I'm currently using Access 2003, so the mde version might be better.

Thanks,
Bob

At 5/31/2005 12:53 PM, you wrote:
>Dear List:
>
>Version 5 of The Sleep Advisor is now ready for beta testing:
>
>There is a Wise/Sagekey run-time download available at 
>http://www.drnaiman.com/sleepad.php
>or for those of you who have Access 2003 you can email me off line and 
>I'll send you just the mde.





Bob Geldart             BGeldart at verizon.net
Maynard, MA


From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com  Sun Jun  5 16:24:04 2005
From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (John W. Colby)
Date: Sun, 05 Jun 2005 17:24:04 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Arrow keys in Excel
Message-ID: <000e01c56a14$eaafd810$6c7aa8c0@ColbyM6805>

Does anyone know why the arrow keys do not move the cursor in Excel?

John W. Colby
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From dwaters at usinternet.com  Sun Jun  5 16:37:29 2005
From: dwaters at usinternet.com (Dan Waters)
Date: Sun, 5 Jun 2005 16:37:29 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Arrow keys in Excel
In-Reply-To: <16642981.1118007213908.JavaMail.root@sniper15>
Message-ID: <000001c56a16$c6c0b530$0300a8c0@danwaters>

John,

I just tried it.  If you've double-clicked in a cell with text/numbers, then
the arrow keys do move the cursor.  Otherwise the arrow keys move your cell
selection.

Dan Waters


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Sent: Sunday, June 05, 2005 4:24 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] Arrow keys in Excel

Does anyone know why the arrow keys do not move the cursor in Excel?

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From stuart at lexacorp.com.pg  Sun Jun  5 16:57:54 2005
From: stuart at lexacorp.com.pg (Stuart McLachlan)
Date: Mon, 06 Jun 2005 07:57:54 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] Arrow keys in Excel
In-Reply-To: <000e01c56a14$eaafd810$6c7aa8c0@ColbyM6805>
Message-ID: <42A40202.17252.EF8DBCA@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>

On 5 Jun 2005 at 17:24, John W. Colby wrote:

> Does anyone know why the arrow keys do not move the cursor in Excel?
> 

Because you've got "scroll lock" in?

-- 
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From relations at rescom.cc  Sun Jun  5 18:16:56 2005
From: relations at rescom.cc (Res-Com Environmental)
Date: Sun, 5 Jun 2005 16:16:56 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Another Commission Dilemma
Message-ID: <JIEKIIMEGLDLMJDHKMOLAEKNCEAA.relations@rescom.cc>

Dear List:

    We have another problem with the commission structure we are trying to
setup. The boss wants the current system where we enter customer and sales
info into the tblCustomers and tblOrders tables. The tblEmployees tracks
each employees sale. We also have a tblReturns for those orders that get
returned. The commission system we use now is in Excel and we would like to
integrate it into Access fully.
    I'm relatively new to database design and am trying to design a system
where each week the sales get totaled for each employee and they get setup
on a special commission structure where: 0-2 sales = no commission, 0-7 =
regular commission %, 8+ sales would get a different commission % as the
sales add up. This is because we have integrated a flat bonus amount ($50
for 8-10 sales, $100 for 10-12 sales, $150 for 10-15, etc, etc.) and we have
to change the commission % for each sale to accommodate this flat bonus
amount.
    However, there is also another variable. There is a special bonus if the
entire sales staff meets a goal that every salesperson who received 5+ sales
that week will receive. It goes $75 for 60-69, $100 for 70-79 and so forth.
    What I need to do is produce a system where it looks at both individual
sales and group sales to produce the total commission amount for each
salesperson on a weekly basis. After this I would need to integrate a
deduction system for order returns and random deductions for employee
tardiness, corrective action, etc.
    If anyone can help me with any part of the design for this project it
would be greatly appreciated.

Sincerely,

Adam Faulkner
Res-Com







From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com  Sun Jun  5 19:01:42 2005
From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (John W. Colby)
Date: Sun, 05 Jun 2005 20:01:42 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Arrow keys in Excel
In-Reply-To: <42A40202.17252.EF8DBCA@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>
Message-ID: <001101c56a2a$ef846890$6c7aa8c0@ColbyM6805>

Nope.  What it is doing is causing the spreadsheet to scroll up and down
instead of the cursor move to the next cell.

John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com 

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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Stuart McLachlan
Sent: Sunday, June 05, 2005 5:58 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Arrow keys in Excel


On 5 Jun 2005 at 17:24, John W. Colby wrote:

> Does anyone know why the arrow keys do not move the cursor in Excel?
> 

Because you've got "scroll lock" in?

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From stuart at lexacorp.com.pg  Sun Jun  5 21:25:11 2005
From: stuart at lexacorp.com.pg (Stuart McLachlan)
Date: Mon, 06 Jun 2005 12:25:11 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] Arrow keys in Excel
In-Reply-To: <001101c56a2a$ef846890$6c7aa8c0@ColbyM6805>
References: <42A40202.17252.EF8DBCA@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>
Message-ID: <42A440A7.14795.FED8D07@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>

On 5 Jun 2005 at 20:01, John W. Colby wrote:

> Nope.  What it is doing is causing the spreadsheet to scroll up and down
> instead of the cursor move to the next cell.
> 

That's what happens when you have "Scroll Lock" turned on.  The Scroll Lock 
key on your keyboard is a toggle, just like Caps lock and Num Lock.

-- 
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From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com  Sun Jun  5 21:35:34 2005
From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (John W. Colby)
Date: Sun, 05 Jun 2005 22:35:34 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Arrow keys in Excel
In-Reply-To: <42A440A7.14795.FED8D07@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>
Message-ID: <001201c56a40$6d959d20$6c7aa8c0@ColbyM6805>

Yes, I understand that, but in this case it happens whether or not I have
scroll lock on.  This is my laptop and there is a blue led that tells me if
the scroll lock is on.  On or off, the arrow keys act the same.  I am
guessing there is some setting in Excel but I haven't found it.

John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com 

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-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Stuart McLachlan
Sent: Sunday, June 05, 2005 10:25 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Arrow keys in Excel


On 5 Jun 2005 at 20:01, John W. Colby wrote:

> Nope.  What it is doing is causing the spreadsheet to scroll up and 
> down instead of the cursor move to the next cell.
> 

That's what happens when you have "Scroll Lock" turned on.  The Scroll Lock 
key on your keyboard is a toggle, just like Caps lock and Num Lock.

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From stuart at lexacorp.com.pg  Sun Jun  5 22:18:49 2005
From: stuart at lexacorp.com.pg (Stuart McLachlan)
Date: Mon, 06 Jun 2005 13:18:49 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] Arrow keys in Excel
In-Reply-To: <001201c56a40$6d959d20$6c7aa8c0@ColbyM6805>
References: <42A440A7.14795.FED8D07@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>
Message-ID: <42A44D39.24659.101EA831@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>

On 5 Jun 2005 at 22:35, John W. Colby wrote:

> Yes, I understand that, but in this case it happens whether or not I have
> scroll lock on.  This is my laptop and there is a blue led that tells me if
> the scroll lock is on.  On or off, the arrow keys act the same.  I am
> guessing there is some setting in Excel but I haven't found it.
> 

AFAIK, it's purely based on the Scroll Lock state. Check whether the status 
bar at the bottom right of the Excel window has "SCRL" showing.  If so, I'd 
suspect a hardware problem with your Scroll Lock key.


-- 
Stuart




From jmhecht at earthlink.net  Sun Jun  5 22:23:54 2005
From: jmhecht at earthlink.net (Joe Hecht)
Date: Sun, 5 Jun 2005 20:23:54 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Is this a really bad Idea in my purchase order database?
Message-ID: <000001c56a47$2be64260$6401a8c0@laptop1>

I have a multiple table query where one field is dept id on my POmaster
table.
 
SELECT DISTINCTROW PurchaseOrders.PurchaseOrderID, Vendors.VendorName,
Vendors.Address, Vendors.City, Vendors.State, Vendors.Zip, Vendors.Phone,
Vendors.Fax, PurchaseOrders.DateOrdered, PurchaseOrders.DateRequired,
PurchaseOrders.ShippingMethodID, Locations.LocationName,
Locations.LocationAddress, Locations.LocationCity, Locations.LocationState,
Locations.LocationZip, Locations.LocationPhone, Locations.LocationFax,
[City] & " " & [State] & " " & [Zip] AS VendaddLine3, [LocationCity] & " " &
[LocationState] & " " & [LocationZip] AS LocationAddLine3, [Shipping
Methods].ShippingMethod, PurchaseOrders.Notes, PurchaseOrders.Initails,
Locations.LocationID, PurchaseOrders.Dept
 
FROM Locations INNER JOIN ([Shipping Methods] INNER JOIN (Vendors INNER JOIN
PurchaseOrders ON Vendors.VendorID = PurchaseOrders.VendorID) ON [Shipping
Methods].ShippingMethodID = PurchaseOrders.ShippingMethodID) ON
Locations.LocationID = PurchaseOrders.LocationID
 
WHERE
(((PurchaseOrders.PurchaseOrderID)=[Forms]![PurchaseOrders]![PurchaseOrderID
]));
 
The above works properly. If I try to add the department table, I get
ambigious outer join error. I can fix that by making a second query.
 
The department is a static item. Is it really bad or wrong to store the
actual department in the table rather than the Dept ID to reduce the number
of queries and generally make the DB work better? I expect to be here till
at least midnight PST if anyone has suggestions?
 
 
 
 
 
Joe Hecht
Los Angeles CA
 


From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com  Sun Jun  5 22:27:41 2005
From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (John W. Colby)
Date: Sun, 05 Jun 2005 23:27:41 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Arrow keys in Excel
In-Reply-To: <42A44D39.24659.101EA831@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>
Message-ID: <001301c56a47$b25def50$6c7aa8c0@ColbyM6805>

ROTFL.  THANKS.  I never knew the scroll lock indicator was there in Excel,
and yes, it WAS on, and it turns out I need to tap the function key WITHOUT
the FN shift key.  All is fine now. 

I have a 4 year old boy who is probably the culprit here. 

Thanks!

John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com 

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-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Stuart McLachlan
Sent: Sunday, June 05, 2005 11:19 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Arrow keys in Excel


On 5 Jun 2005 at 22:35, John W. Colby wrote:

> Yes, I understand that, but in this case it happens whether or not I 
> have scroll lock on.  This is my laptop and there is a blue led that 
> tells me if the scroll lock is on.  On or off, the arrow keys act the 
> same.  I am guessing there is some setting in Excel but I haven't 
> found it.
> 

AFAIK, it's purely based on the Scroll Lock state. Check whether the status 
bar at the bottom right of the Excel window has "SCRL" showing.  If so, I'd 
suspect a hardware problem with your Scroll Lock key.


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From jmhecht at earthlink.net  Sun Jun  5 22:32:24 2005
From: jmhecht at earthlink.net (Joe Hecht)
Date: Sun, 5 Jun 2005 20:32:24 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Arrow keys in Excel
In-Reply-To: <001301c56a47$b25def50$6c7aa8c0@ColbyM6805>
Message-ID: <000501c56a48$5bcd54e0$6401a8c0@laptop1>

Sure John, 
Blame some one else ; )

Joe Hecht
Los Angeles CA

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of John W. Colby
Sent: Sunday, June 05, 2005 8:28 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Arrow keys in Excel

ROTFL.  THANKS.  I never knew the scroll lock indicator was there in Excel,
and yes, it WAS on, and it turns out I need to tap the function key WITHOUT
the FN shift key.  All is fine now. 

I have a 4 year old boy who is probably the culprit here. 

Thanks!

John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com 

Contribute your unused CPU cycles to a good cause:
http://folding.stanford.edu/

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Stuart McLachlan
Sent: Sunday, June 05, 2005 11:19 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Arrow keys in Excel


On 5 Jun 2005 at 22:35, John W. Colby wrote:

> Yes, I understand that, but in this case it happens whether or not I 
> have scroll lock on.  This is my laptop and there is a blue led that 
> tells me if the scroll lock is on.  On or off, the arrow keys act the 
> same.  I am guessing there is some setting in Excel but I haven't 
> found it.
> 

AFAIK, it's purely based on the Scroll Lock state. Check whether the status 
bar at the bottom right of the Excel window has "SCRL" showing.  If so, I'd 
suspect a hardware problem with your Scroll Lock key.


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From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com  Sun Jun  5 22:49:49 2005
From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (John W. Colby)
Date: Sun, 05 Jun 2005 23:49:49 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Arrow keys in Excel
In-Reply-To: <000501c56a48$5bcd54e0$6401a8c0@laptop1>
Message-ID: <001401c56a4a$c9c6f2b0$6c7aa8c0@ColbyM6805>

LOL.  Hey, when you have a 4 year old boy, it is easy to believe.  ;-)

John W. Colby
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-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Joe Hecht
Sent: Sunday, June 05, 2005 11:32 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Arrow keys in Excel


Sure John, 
Blame some one else ; )

Joe Hecht
Los Angeles CA

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of John W. Colby
Sent: Sunday, June 05, 2005 8:28 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Arrow keys in Excel

ROTFL.  THANKS.  I never knew the scroll lock indicator was there in Excel,
and yes, it WAS on, and it turns out I need to tap the function key WITHOUT
the FN shift key.  All is fine now. 

I have a 4 year old boy who is probably the culprit here. 

Thanks!

John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com 

Contribute your unused CPU cycles to a good cause:
http://folding.stanford.edu/

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Stuart McLachlan
Sent: Sunday, June 05, 2005 11:19 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Arrow keys in Excel


On 5 Jun 2005 at 22:35, John W. Colby wrote:

> Yes, I understand that, but in this case it happens whether or not I
> have scroll lock on.  This is my laptop and there is a blue led that 
> tells me if the scroll lock is on.  On or off, the arrow keys act the 
> same.  I am guessing there is some setting in Excel but I haven't 
> found it.
> 

AFAIK, it's purely based on the Scroll Lock state. Check whether the status 
bar at the bottom right of the Excel window has "SCRL" showing.  If so, I'd 
suspect a hardware problem with your Scroll Lock key.


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From jmhecht at earthlink.net  Sun Jun  5 22:52:43 2005
From: jmhecht at earthlink.net (Joe Hecht)
Date: Sun, 5 Jun 2005 20:52:43 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Arrow keys in Excel
In-Reply-To: <001401c56a4a$c9c6f2b0$6c7aa8c0@ColbyM6805>
Message-ID: <000601c56a4b$3260bfe0$6401a8c0@laptop1>

I have me to louse up my work. I do need any help. 
See my other post?

Joe Hecht
Los Angeles CA

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of John W. Colby
Sent: Sunday, June 05, 2005 8:50 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Arrow keys in Excel

LOL.  Hey, when you have a 4 year old boy, it is easy to believe.  ;-)

John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com 

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-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Joe Hecht
Sent: Sunday, June 05, 2005 11:32 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Arrow keys in Excel


Sure John, 
Blame some one else ; )

Joe Hecht
Los Angeles CA

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of John W. Colby
Sent: Sunday, June 05, 2005 8:28 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Arrow keys in Excel

ROTFL.  THANKS.  I never knew the scroll lock indicator was there in Excel,
and yes, it WAS on, and it turns out I need to tap the function key WITHOUT
the FN shift key.  All is fine now. 

I have a 4 year old boy who is probably the culprit here. 

Thanks!

John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com 

Contribute your unused CPU cycles to a good cause:
http://folding.stanford.edu/

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Stuart McLachlan
Sent: Sunday, June 05, 2005 11:19 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Arrow keys in Excel


On 5 Jun 2005 at 22:35, John W. Colby wrote:

> Yes, I understand that, but in this case it happens whether or not I
> have scroll lock on.  This is my laptop and there is a blue led that 
> tells me if the scroll lock is on.  On or off, the arrow keys act the 
> same.  I am guessing there is some setting in Excel but I haven't 
> found it.
> 

AFAIK, it's purely based on the Scroll Lock state. Check whether the status 
bar at the bottom right of the Excel window has "SCRL" showing.  If so, I'd 
suspect a hardware problem with your Scroll Lock key.


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From jmhecht at earthlink.net  Sun Jun  5 23:01:11 2005
From: jmhecht at earthlink.net (Joe Hecht)
Date: Sun, 5 Jun 2005 21:01:11 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Arrow keys in Excel
In-Reply-To: <001401c56a4a$c9c6f2b0$6c7aa8c0@ColbyM6805>
Message-ID: <000c01c56a4c$60df1aa0$6401a8c0@laptop1>

Besides, I a missing half the code for one of those : (

Joe Hecht
Los Angeles CA

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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of John W. Colby
Sent: Sunday, June 05, 2005 8:50 PM
To: access at joe2.endjunk.com; 'Access Developers discussion and problem
solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Arrow keys in Excel

LOL.  Hey, when you have a 4 year old boy, it is easy to believe.  ;-)

John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com 

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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Joe Hecht
Sent: Sunday, June 05, 2005 11:32 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Arrow keys in Excel


Sure John, 
Blame some one else ; )

Joe Hecht
Los Angeles CA

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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of John W. Colby
Sent: Sunday, June 05, 2005 8:28 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Arrow keys in Excel

ROTFL.  THANKS.  I never knew the scroll lock indicator was there in Excel,
and yes, it WAS on, and it turns out I need to tap the function key WITHOUT
the FN shift key.  All is fine now. 

I have a 4 year old boy who is probably the culprit here. 

Thanks!

John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com 

Contribute your unused CPU cycles to a good cause:
http://folding.stanford.edu/

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[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Stuart McLachlan
Sent: Sunday, June 05, 2005 11:19 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Arrow keys in Excel


On 5 Jun 2005 at 22:35, John W. Colby wrote:

> Yes, I understand that, but in this case it happens whether or not I
> have scroll lock on.  This is my laptop and there is a blue led that 
> tells me if the scroll lock is on.  On or off, the arrow keys act the 
> same.  I am guessing there is some setting in Excel but I haven't 
> found it.
> 

AFAIK, it's purely based on the Scroll Lock state. Check whether the status 
bar at the bottom right of the Excel window has "SCRL" showing.  If so, I'd 
suspect a hardware problem with your Scroll Lock key.


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From jmhecht at earthlink.net  Sun Jun  5 23:22:08 2005
From: jmhecht at earthlink.net (Joe Hecht)
Date: Sun, 5 Jun 2005 21:22:08 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Anyone out there
Message-ID: <001201c56a4f$4e3b58c0$6401a8c0@laptop1>

It is 9:20 here in LA Sunday night.
 
Anyone out there? I am deep trouble with a database.
 
Joe Hecht
Los Angeles CA
 


From martyconnelly at shaw.ca  Sun Jun  5 23:55:44 2005
From: martyconnelly at shaw.ca (MartyConnelly)
Date: Sun, 05 Jun 2005 21:55:44 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Anyone out there
References: <001201c56a4f$4e3b58c0$6401a8c0@laptop1>
Message-ID: <42A3D750.1070105@shaw.ca>

Nobody here but us chickens.

Joe Hecht wrote:

>It is 9:20 here in LA Sunday night.
> 
>Anyone out there? I am deep trouble with a database.
> 
>Joe Hecht
>Los Angeles CA
> 
>  
>

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Victoria, B.C.
Canada





From bchacc at san.rr.com  Mon Jun  6 00:01:24 2005
From: bchacc at san.rr.com (Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software)
Date: Sun, 5 Jun 2005 22:01:24 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] For Charles Hise - Fw: Returned mail: see transcript for
	details
Message-ID: <01ee01c56a54$ca09e390$6901a8c0@HAL9004>

Charles Hise:

I'm trying to send you the Sleep Advisor but your address seems to be hosed. 
Do you have another one?

Rocky

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Sent: Sunday, June 05, 2005 8:39 PM
Subject: Returned mail: see transcript for details


> The original message was received at Fri, 3 Jun 2005 18:23:44 -0700 (PDT)
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>
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> <chise at charterr.net>
>
>   ----- Transcript of session follows -----
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> Message could not be delivered for 2 days
> Message will be deleted from queue
>


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From jmhecht at earthlink.net  Mon Jun  6 00:03:25 2005
From: jmhecht at earthlink.net (Joe Hecht)
Date: Sun, 5 Jun 2005 22:03:25 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Anyone out there
In-Reply-To: <42A3D750.1070105@shaw.ca>
Message-ID: <000001c56a55$12822290$6401a8c0@laptop1>

Marty,

You do have to help me. I have one tuff problem and one that is probably
easy.

TIA

Joe Hecht
Los Angeles CA

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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of MartyConnelly
Sent: Sunday, June 05, 2005 9:56 PM
To: access at joe2.endjunk.com; Access Developers discussion and problem
solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Anyone out there

Nobody here but us chickens.

Joe Hecht wrote:

>It is 9:20 here in LA Sunday night.
> 
>Anyone out there? I am deep trouble with a database.
> 
>Joe Hecht
>Los Angeles CA
> 
>  
>

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From jmhecht at earthlink.net  Mon Jun  6 00:09:31 2005
From: jmhecht at earthlink.net (Joe Hecht)
Date: Sun, 5 Jun 2005 22:09:31 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Anyone out there
In-Reply-To: <000001c56a55$12822290$6401a8c0@laptop1>
Message-ID: <001201c56a55$ecdcb9a0$6401a8c0@laptop1>

That was well butchered.

Do you have time to help me tonight?

Joe Hecht
Los Angeles CA

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Joe Hecht
Sent: Sunday, June 05, 2005 10:03 PM
To: access at joe2.endjunk.com; 'Access Developers discussion and problem
solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Anyone out there

Marty,

You do have to help me. I have one tuff problem and one that is probably
easy.

TIA

Joe Hecht
Los Angeles CA

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of MartyConnelly
Sent: Sunday, June 05, 2005 9:56 PM
To: access at joe2.endjunk.com; Access Developers discussion and problem
solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Anyone out there

Nobody here but us chickens.

Joe Hecht wrote:

>It is 9:20 here in LA Sunday night.
> 
>Anyone out there? I am deep trouble with a database.
> 
>Joe Hecht
>Los Angeles CA
> 
>  
>

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Victoria, B.C.
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From jeff at boyes.net  Mon Jun  6 00:13:12 2005
From: jeff at boyes.net (Jeff)
Date: Sun, 5 Jun 2005 23:13:12 -0600
Subject: [AccessD] Anyone out there
In-Reply-To: <001201c56a4f$4e3b58c0$6401a8c0@laptop1>
Message-ID: <200506060513.j565D7s01849@databaseadvisors.com>

Joe...

11:15 in Colorado right now...What's the problem?

Jeff
 

-----Original Message-----
From: Joe Hecht [mailto:jmhecht at earthlink.net] 
Sent: Sunday, June 05, 2005 10:22 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] Anyone out there

It is 9:20 here in LA Sunday night.
 
Anyone out there? I am deep trouble with a database.
 
Joe Hecht
Los Angeles CA
 
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From jmhecht at earthlink.net  Mon Jun  6 00:26:35 2005
From: jmhecht at earthlink.net (Joe Hecht)
Date: Sun, 5 Jun 2005 22:26:35 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Anyone out there
In-Reply-To: <200506060513.j565D7s01849@databaseadvisors.com>
Message-ID: <001301c56a58$4efd0c00$6401a8c0@laptop1>

Thanks Jeff

This is the sequence

I open a form to show a Purchase order. It shows the first record. I hit the
print preview and all is ok.

I go to other records and the report shows multiple errors and missing data.
I am going nuts trying to get it.

Any thoughts?

Joe Hecht
Los Angeles CA

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jeff
Sent: Sunday, June 05, 2005 10:13 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Anyone out there

Joe...

11:15 in Colorado right now...What's the problem?

Jeff
 

-----Original Message-----
From: Joe Hecht [mailto:jmhecht at earthlink.net] 
Sent: Sunday, June 05, 2005 10:22 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] Anyone out there

It is 9:20 here in LA Sunday night.
 
Anyone out there? I am deep trouble with a database.
 
Joe Hecht
Los Angeles CA
 
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From kost36 at otenet.gr  Mon Jun  6 01:12:42 2005
From: kost36 at otenet.gr (Kostas Konstantinidis)
Date: Mon, 6 Jun 2005 09:12:42 +0300
Subject: [AccessD] Separate selected records from a table
References: <001201c56a4f$4e3b58c0$6401a8c0@laptop1> <42A3D750.1070105@shaw.ca>
Message-ID: <00a301c56a5e$bffd8460$07a1fea9@studio2>

Hi again :)
in a table there are names and in some cases there are two names with a "," 
between them
What I want to do is to separate only the records keeping the second name.

I tried the follown
1st: Right$([director];Len([director])-InStr(1;[director];","))
2nd: Left$([director];InStr(1;[director];",")-1)

but it returns with 2 problems
1. in 2nd (Left$) #ERROR for the blank records
2. in 1st (Right$) a space " " in the begginning of the separated records

thank's
/kostas 




From martyconnelly at shaw.ca  Mon Jun  6 01:13:35 2005
From: martyconnelly at shaw.ca (MartyConnelly)
Date: Sun, 05 Jun 2005 23:13:35 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Anyone out there
References: <001301c56a58$4efd0c00$6401a8c0@laptop1>
Message-ID: <42A3E98F.90906@shaw.ca>

Look at the query feeding the report,  if you can't see anything obvious 
try a full decompile

Do a backup before the /decompile.

1a) Create a shortcut with the following
"C:\Program Files\Microsoft Office\Office\MSACCESS.EXE" "d:\My 
Documents\access\mayapp.mdb" /decompile
As appropriate for your environment of course.  Note that if your path 
to your MDB contains a space it must be enclosed in double quotes just 
as the MSACCESS.EXE component.   You can create a short cut but right 
clicking in the directory of your choice, highlighting new and creating

or

1b) Create a one line .bat or .cmd line with the above text in it it 
using notepad.  

Hint:  Right click in your directory of choice, highlight new and select 
Text Document.  You will be presented with a new file named "New Text 
Document.txt" or similar.   Rename that file to something like 
"decompile.bat".   Then right click that file and select edit.  Notepad 
should then run opening up that file.

2) Click on the short cut or click on the .bat or .cmd file and, in 
Access 97, you'll get the message "... has converted the code in ... to 
your current version of Visual Basic". This message does not appear in 
Access 2000 or newer.  Hold the shift key down when you click on Okay so 
the MDBs autoexec macro won't execute or the start-up form will not be 
opened.  If you have any class modules exit the MDB and re-enter it.  
This will keep the class modules intact.

3) Now compact the MDB to clean out the old VBA code..

4) Hit Ctrl+G to open the debug/immediate window or go into any module 
and click on Debug.  If Access 97 click on Compile and Save All Modules. 
If Access 2000 or newer click on Compile.   Compiling is particularly 
important to see if there were any problems and for performance reasons. 

5) Then compact again.



Joe Hecht wrote:

>Thanks Jeff
>
>This is the sequence
>
>I open a form to show a Purchase order. It shows the first record. I hit the
>print preview and all is ok.
>
>I go to other records and the report shows multiple errors and missing data.
>I am going nuts trying to get it.
>
>Any thoughts?
>
>Joe Hecht
>Los Angeles CA
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jeff
>Sent: Sunday, June 05, 2005 10:13 PM
>To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
>Subject: RE: [AccessD] Anyone out there
>
>Joe...
>
>11:15 in Colorado right now...What's the problem?
>
>Jeff
> 
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Joe Hecht [mailto:jmhecht at earthlink.net] 
>Sent: Sunday, June 05, 2005 10:22 PM
>To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
>Subject: [AccessD] Anyone out there
>
>It is 9:20 here in LA Sunday night.
> 
>Anyone out there? I am deep trouble with a database.
> 
>Joe Hecht
>Los Angeles CA
> 
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From Bruce.Bruen at railcorp.nsw.gov.au  Mon Jun  6 01:28:30 2005
From: Bruce.Bruen at railcorp.nsw.gov.au (Bruen, Bruce)
Date: Mon, 6 Jun 2005 16:28:30 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] Separate selected records from a table
Message-ID: <F2BE8EAB3EA585418337B71BCE6F3BF304EBA8@msmet100.rail.nsw.gov.au>

Try

IIf(InStr(1,[names],",")<>0,Trim(Right$([names],Len([names])-InStr(1,[na
mes],","))),Null)

(replacing "names" with "director")

N.B This is probably not optimal, I just juggled yours to make it work.


Here's a sample:
Input names				returned value
ahab					<<null>>
bhab, chab				chab
dhab,ehab				ehab
fhab, ghab ihab			ghab ihab
jhab khab,lhab mhab		lhab mhab
ohab phab, qhab			qhab
rhab,					<<null>>

Hth
Bruce Bruen

P.s. hello guys - long time no see!

  

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Kostas
Konstantinidis
Sent: Monday, 6 June 2005 4:13 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: [AccessD] Separate selected records from a table

Hi again :)
in a table there are names and in some cases there are two names with a
"," 
between them
What I want to do is to separate only the records keeping the second
name.

I tried the follown
1st: Right$([director];Len([director])-InStr(1;[director];","))
2nd: Left$([director];InStr(1;[director];",")-1)

but it returns with 2 problems
1. in 2nd (Left$) #ERROR for the blank records 2. in 1st (Right$) a
space " " in the begginning of the separated records

thank's
/kostas 


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From jmhecht at earthlink.net  Mon Jun  6 01:44:32 2005
From: jmhecht at earthlink.net (Joe Hecht)
Date: Sun, 5 Jun 2005 23:44:32 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Anyone out there
In-Reply-To: <42A3E98F.90906@shaw.ca>
Message-ID: <000001c56a63$329661f0$6401a8c0@laptop1>

If I make.bat use the quotes?

Joe Hecht
Los Angeles CA

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of MartyConnelly
Sent: Sunday, June 05, 2005 11:14 PM
To: access at joe2.endjunk.com; Access Developers discussion and problem
solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Anyone out there

Look at the query feeding the report,  if you can't see anything obvious 
try a full decompile

Do a backup before the /decompile.

1a) Create a shortcut with the following
"C:\Program Files\Microsoft Office\Office\MSACCESS.EXE" "d:\My 
Documents\access\mayapp.mdb" /decompile
As appropriate for your environment of course.  Note that if your path 
to your MDB contains a space it must be enclosed in double quotes just 
as the MSACCESS.EXE component.   You can create a short cut but right 
clicking in the directory of your choice, highlighting new and creating

or

1b) Create a one line .bat or .cmd line with the above text in it it 
using notepad.  

Hint:  Right click in your directory of choice, highlight new and select 
Text Document.  You will be presented with a new file named "New Text 
Document.txt" or similar.   Rename that file to something like 
"decompile.bat".   Then right click that file and select edit.  Notepad 
should then run opening up that file.

2) Click on the short cut or click on the .bat or .cmd file and, in 
Access 97, you'll get the message "... has converted the code in ... to 
your current version of Visual Basic". This message does not appear in 
Access 2000 or newer.  Hold the shift key down when you click on Okay so 
the MDBs autoexec macro won't execute or the start-up form will not be 
opened.  If you have any class modules exit the MDB and re-enter it.  
This will keep the class modules intact.

3) Now compact the MDB to clean out the old VBA code..

4) Hit Ctrl+G to open the debug/immediate window or go into any module 
and click on Debug.  If Access 97 click on Compile and Save All Modules. 
If Access 2000 or newer click on Compile.   Compiling is particularly 
important to see if there were any problems and for performance reasons. 

5) Then compact again.



Joe Hecht wrote:

>Thanks Jeff
>
>This is the sequence
>
>I open a form to show a Purchase order. It shows the first record. I hit
the
>print preview and all is ok.
>
>I go to other records and the report shows multiple errors and missing
data.
>I am going nuts trying to get it.
>
>Any thoughts?
>
>Joe Hecht
>Los Angeles CA
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jeff
>Sent: Sunday, June 05, 2005 10:13 PM
>To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
>Subject: RE: [AccessD] Anyone out there
>
>Joe...
>
>11:15 in Colorado right now...What's the problem?
>
>Jeff
> 
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Joe Hecht [mailto:jmhecht at earthlink.net] 
>Sent: Sunday, June 05, 2005 10:22 PM
>To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
>Subject: [AccessD] Anyone out there
>
>It is 9:20 here in LA Sunday night.
> 
>Anyone out there? I am deep trouble with a database.
> 
>Joe Hecht
>Los Angeles CA
> 
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From kost36 at otenet.gr  Mon Jun  6 01:54:19 2005
From: kost36 at otenet.gr (Kostas Konstantinidis)
Date: Mon, 6 Jun 2005 09:54:19 +0300
Subject: [AccessD] Separate selected records from a table
References: <F2BE8EAB3EA585418337B71BCE6F3BF304EBA8@msmet100.rail.nsw.gov.au>
Message-ID: <000801c56a64$903e6810$07a1fea9@studio2>

Hi Bruce,
thank's for your quickly response
the 1st of my questions was really solved with your help

/kostas


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Bruen, Bruce" <Bruce.Bruen at railcorp.nsw.gov.au>
To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving" 
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Monday, June 06, 2005 9:28 AM
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Separate selected records from a table


> Try
>
> IIf(InStr(1,[names],",")<>0,Trim(Right$([names],Len([names])-InStr(1,[na
> mes],","))),Null)
>
> (replacing "names" with "director")
>
> N.B This is probably not optimal, I just juggled yours to make it work.
>
>
> Here's a sample:
> Input names returned value
> ahab <<null>>
> bhab, chab chab
> dhab,ehab ehab
> fhab, ghab ihab ghab ihab
> jhab khab,lhab mhab lhab mhab
> ohab phab, qhab qhab
> rhab, <<null>>
>
> Hth
> Bruce Bruen
>
> P.s. hello guys - long time no see!
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Kostas
> Konstantinidis
> Sent: Monday, 6 June 2005 4:13 PM
> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> Subject: [AccessD] Separate selected records from a table
>
> Hi again :)
> in a table there are names and in some cases there are two names with a
> ","
> between them
> What I want to do is to separate only the records keeping the second
> name.
>
> I tried the follown
> 1st: Right$([director];Len([director])-InStr(1;[director];","))
> 2nd: Left$([director];InStr(1;[director];",")-1)
>
> but it returns with 2 problems
> 1. in 2nd (Left$) #ERROR for the blank records 2. in 1st (Right$) a
> space " " in the begginning of the separated records
>
> thank's
> /kostas
>
>
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> 




From kost36 at otenet.gr  Mon Jun  6 04:42:47 2005
From: kost36 at otenet.gr (Kostas Konstantinidis)
Date: Mon, 6 Jun 2005 12:42:47 +0300
Subject: [AccessD] Separate selected records from a table
References: <F2BE8EAB3EA585418337B71BCE6F3BF304EBA8@msmet100.rail.nsw.gov.au>
	<000801c56a64$903e6810$07a1fea9@studio2>
Message-ID: <005701c56a7c$19173f10$07a1fea9@studio2>

Hi Bruce again,

and how to keep the left$ without the ","

thank's
/kostas


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From: "Kostas Konstantinidis" <kost36 at otenet.gr>
To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving" 
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Monday, June 06, 2005 9:54 AM
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Separate selected records from a table


> Hi Bruce,
> thank's for your quickly response
> the 1st of my questions was really solved with your help
>
> /kostas
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Bruen, Bruce" <Bruce.Bruen at railcorp.nsw.gov.au>
> To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving" 
> <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
> Sent: Monday, June 06, 2005 9:28 AM
> Subject: RE: [AccessD] Separate selected records from a table
>
>
>> Try
>>
>> IIf(InStr(1,[names],",")<>0,Trim(Right$([names],Len([names])-InStr(1,[na
>> mes],","))),Null)
>>
>> (replacing "names" with "director")
>>
>> N.B This is probably not optimal, I just juggled yours to make it work.
>>
>>
>> Here's a sample:
>> Input names returned value
>> ahab <<null>>
>> bhab, chab chab
>> dhab,ehab ehab
>> fhab, ghab ihab ghab ihab
>> jhab khab,lhab mhab lhab mhab
>> ohab phab, qhab qhab
>> rhab, <<null>>
>>
>> Hth
>> Bruce Bruen
>>
>> P.s. hello guys - long time no see!
>>
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Kostas
>> Konstantinidis
>> Sent: Monday, 6 June 2005 4:13 PM
>> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
>> Subject: [AccessD] Separate selected records from a table
>>
>> Hi again :)
>> in a table there are names and in some cases there are two names with a
>> ","
>> between them
>> What I want to do is to separate only the records keeping the second
>> name.
>>
>> I tried the follown
>> 1st: Right$([director];Len([director])-InStr(1;[director];","))
>> 2nd: Left$([director];InStr(1;[director];",")-1)
>>
>> but it returns with 2 problems
>> 1. in 2nd (Left$) #ERROR for the blank records 2. in 1st (Right$) a
>> space " " in the begginning of the separated records
>>
>> thank's
>> /kostas
>>
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From vrm at tim-cms.com  Mon Jun  6 05:47:03 2005
From: vrm at tim-cms.com (Marcel Vreuls)
Date: Mon, 6 Jun 2005 12:47:03 +0200
Subject: [AccessD] Support Solutions
In-Reply-To: <20050602125051.75972.qmail@web31605.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <20050606064931.SM04100@ACERVREULS>

Hi Group,

I am wondering what support solutions you are using at this moment and which
you can advice me. I browsed the net for 20 minutes and found a ziljoen
applications which suggest all work perfectly. I receive about 20 e-mail a
day for information request and support calls. Now I arrange this within
outlook with rules. It works, but I keep losing information. I can write a
own Access App and asp frontend but this cost time which I rather spent on
paying customers :-).

What the supportsystem must handle is:
- automaticly convert incoming email to a support call and give a reply
- can handle attachments/screen shots.
- keep a history of call communnications.


Any ideas, suggestions are welcome. I am willing to buy a good working
package if someone has one.

Thanks, Marcel



From BarbaraRyan at cox.net  Mon Jun  6 06:50:01 2005
From: BarbaraRyan at cox.net (Barbara Ryan)
Date: Mon, 6 Jun 2005 07:50:01 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Replication
Message-ID: <001801c56a8d$df236920$0a00a8c0@cx470148a>

I have two Access 2002 databases (appr 40 MB) that will need to be replicated on a regular (daily?) basis.  The replica resides in Missouri and the design master in Virginia (at the company main office).  The Missouri site has dial-up capabilities to the Norfolk network (via T1 line? --- please excuse me, this kind of stuff confuses me!).  The company also has a website --- where databases can uploaded/downloaded.

Any suggestions on the most efficient way to replicate a database of this size over this distance?

Thanks,
Barb Ryan

From BarbaraRyan at cox.net  Mon Jun  6 06:57:41 2005
From: BarbaraRyan at cox.net (Barbara Ryan)
Date: Mon, 6 Jun 2005 07:57:41 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Replication 
Message-ID: <002101c56a8e$f1aeeb40$0a00a8c0@cx470148a>

Another question ---- I created a Design Master in Access 97 (when opened in Access 97, the title bar says "Design Master").  When I convert this Design Master to Access 2002, the title bar says "Replica".  How can I convert a 97 Design Master to a 2002 Design Master?

Thanks Again,
Barb Ryan

From bheid at appdevgrp.com  Mon Jun  6 07:40:09 2005
From: bheid at appdevgrp.com (Bobby Heid)
Date: Mon, 6 Jun 2005 08:40:09 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Copyright stuff
Message-ID: <916187228923D311A6FE00A0CC3FAA30ABEBEB@ADGSERVER>

Hey,

I have an app that I wrote for a church.  They are interested in selling it
to some other local churches.  They asked me to find out about copyrighting
it.  What do I need to know about copyrights?

Thanks,
Bobby



From jmhecht at earthlink.net  Mon Jun  6 09:15:28 2005
From: jmhecht at earthlink.net (Joe Hecht)
Date: Mon, 6 Jun 2005 07:15:28 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Help with a query
Message-ID: <001501c56aa2$314fd990$6401a8c0@laptop1>

I have a database where a query works with about 14 of almost 5000 records.
 
I rewrote the query and still the same results
 
I have added data in some fields that were missing data.
 
Ant thoughts
 
TIA
 
Joe Hecht
Los Angeles CA
 


From roz.clarke at donnslaw.co.uk  Mon Jun  6 09:34:05 2005
From: roz.clarke at donnslaw.co.uk (Roz Clarke)
Date: Mon, 6 Jun 2005 15:34:05 +0100 
Subject: [AccessD] Help with a query
Message-ID: <61F915314798D311A2F800A0C9C8318807225B00@dibble.observatory.donnslaw.co.uk>

your SQL would be helpful Joe

-----Original Message-----
From: Joe Hecht [mailto:jmhecht at earthlink.net] 
Sent: 06 June 2005 15:15
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] Help with a query


I have a database where a query works with about 14 of almost 5000 records.
 
I rewrote the query and still the same results
 
I have added data in some fields that were missing data.
 
Ant thoughts
 
TIA
 
Joe Hecht
Los Angeles CA
 
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From jmhecht at earthlink.net  Mon Jun  6 09:41:12 2005
From: jmhecht at earthlink.net (Joe Hecht)
Date: Mon, 6 Jun 2005 07:41:12 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Help with a query
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Message-ID: <003101c56aa5$c9ee1a60$6401a8c0@laptop1>

You are right

SELECT DISTINCTROW PurchaseOrders.PurchaseOrderID, Vendors.VendorName,
Vendors.Address, Vendors.City, Vendors.State, Vendors.Zip, Vendors.Phone,
Vendors.Fax, PurchaseOrders.DateOrdered, PurchaseOrders.DateRequired,
PurchaseOrders.ShippingMethodID, Locations.LocationName,
Locations.LocationAddress, Locations.LocationCity, Locations.LocationState,
Locations.LocationZip, Locations.LocationPhone, Locations.LocationFax,
[City] & " " & [State] & " " & [Zip] AS VendaddLine3, [LocationCity] & " " &
[LocationState] & " " & [LocationZip] AS LocationAddLine3, [Shipping
Methods].ShippingMethod, PurchaseOrders.Notes, PurchaseOrders.Initails,
Locations.LocationID, Department.Department
FROM Department INNER JOIN (Locations INNER JOIN ([Shipping Methods] INNER
JOIN (Vendors INNER JOIN PurchaseOrders ON Vendors.VendorID =
PurchaseOrders.VendorID) ON [Shipping Methods].ShippingMethodID =
PurchaseOrders.ShippingMethodID) ON Locations.LocationID =
PurchaseOrders.LocationID) ON Department.DeptID = PurchaseOrders.DeptID
WHERE
(((PurchaseOrders.PurchaseOrderID)=[Forms]![PurchaseOrders]![PurchaseOrderID
]));

Joe Hecht
Los Angeles CA

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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Roz Clarke
Sent: Monday, June 06, 2005 7:34 AM
To: access at joe2.endjunk.com; 'Access Developers discussion and problem
solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Help with a query

your SQL would be helpful Joe

-----Original Message-----
From: Joe Hecht [mailto:jmhecht at earthlink.net] 
Sent: 06 June 2005 15:15
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] Help with a query


I have a database where a query works with about 14 of almost 5000 records.
 
I rewrote the query and still the same results
 
I have added data in some fields that were missing data.
 
Ant thoughts
 
TIA
 
Joe Hecht
Los Angeles CA
 
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From john at winhaven.net  Mon Jun  6 09:43:31 2005
From: john at winhaven.net (John Bartow)
Date: Mon, 6 Jun 2005 09:43:31 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Copyright stuff
In-Reply-To: <916187228923D311A6FE00A0CC3FAA30ABEBEB@ADGSERVER>
Message-ID: <200506061443.j56EhZM4400092@pimout2-ext.prodigy.net>

Bobby,
We've discussed it a bit before here and its a country specific question.

Make sure you cover yourself in this venture because you will be the one
answering all the questions!

John B.

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[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Bobby Heid
Sent: Monday, June 06, 2005 7:40 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] Copyright stuff

Hey,

I have an app that I wrote for a church.  They are interested in selling it
to some other local churches.  They asked me to find out about copyrighting
it.  What do I need to know about copyrights?

Thanks,
Bobby

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From roz.clarke at donnslaw.co.uk  Mon Jun  6 09:51:13 2005
From: roz.clarke at donnslaw.co.uk (Roz Clarke)
Date: Mon, 6 Jun 2005 15:51:13 +0100 
Subject: [AccessD] Help with a query
Message-ID: <61F915314798D311A2F800A0C9C8318807225B02@dibble.observatory.donnslaw.co.uk>

Well, your WHERE clause is simple enough that it's unlikely to be the
culprit.

Have you tried making all your joins outer instead of inner, in case any
information is missing from the child side?

-----Original Message-----
From: Joe Hecht [mailto:jmhecht at earthlink.net] 
Sent: 06 June 2005 15:41
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Help with a query


You are right

SELECT DISTINCTROW PurchaseOrders.PurchaseOrderID, Vendors.VendorName,
Vendors.Address, Vendors.City, Vendors.State, Vendors.Zip, Vendors.Phone,
Vendors.Fax, PurchaseOrders.DateOrdered, PurchaseOrders.DateRequired,
PurchaseOrders.ShippingMethodID, Locations.LocationName,
Locations.LocationAddress, Locations.LocationCity, Locations.LocationState,
Locations.LocationZip, Locations.LocationPhone, Locations.LocationFax,
[City] & " " & [State] & " " & [Zip] AS VendaddLine3, [LocationCity] & " " &
[LocationState] & " " & [LocationZip] AS LocationAddLine3, [Shipping
Methods].ShippingMethod, PurchaseOrders.Notes, PurchaseOrders.Initails,
Locations.LocationID, Department.Department FROM Department INNER JOIN
(Locations INNER JOIN ([Shipping Methods] INNER JOIN (Vendors INNER JOIN
PurchaseOrders ON Vendors.VendorID =
PurchaseOrders.VendorID) ON [Shipping Methods].ShippingMethodID =
PurchaseOrders.ShippingMethodID) ON Locations.LocationID =
PurchaseOrders.LocationID) ON Department.DeptID = PurchaseOrders.DeptID
WHERE
(((PurchaseOrders.PurchaseOrderID)=[Forms]![PurchaseOrders]![PurchaseOrderID
]));

Joe Hecht
Los Angeles CA

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Roz Clarke
Sent: Monday, June 06, 2005 7:34 AM
To: access at joe2.endjunk.com; 'Access Developers discussion and problem
solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Help with a query

your SQL would be helpful Joe

-----Original Message-----
From: Joe Hecht [mailto:jmhecht at earthlink.net] 
Sent: 06 June 2005 15:15
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] Help with a query


I have a database where a query works with about 14 of almost 5000 records.
 
I rewrote the query and still the same results
 
I have added data in some fields that were missing data.
 
Ant thoughts
 
TIA
 
Joe Hecht
Los Angeles CA
 
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From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com  Mon Jun  6 09:50:20 2005
From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (John W. Colby)
Date: Mon, 06 Jun 2005 10:50:20 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Help with a query
In-Reply-To: <003101c56aa5$c9ee1a60$6401a8c0@laptop1>
Message-ID: <004001c56aa7$0fb1a430$6c7aa8c0@ColbyM6805>

Make your inner joins into outer joins and see what happens.

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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Joe Hecht
Sent: Monday, June 06, 2005 10:41 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Help with a query


You are right

SELECT DISTINCTROW PurchaseOrders.PurchaseOrderID, Vendors.VendorName,
Vendors.Address, Vendors.City, Vendors.State, Vendors.Zip, Vendors.Phone,
Vendors.Fax, PurchaseOrders.DateOrdered, PurchaseOrders.DateRequired,
PurchaseOrders.ShippingMethodID, Locations.LocationName,
Locations.LocationAddress, Locations.LocationCity, Locations.LocationState,
Locations.LocationZip, Locations.LocationPhone, Locations.LocationFax,
[City] & " " & [State] & " " & [Zip] AS VendaddLine3, [LocationCity] & " " &
[LocationState] & " " & [LocationZip] AS LocationAddLine3, [Shipping
Methods].ShippingMethod, PurchaseOrders.Notes, PurchaseOrders.Initails,
Locations.LocationID, Department.Department FROM Department INNER JOIN
(Locations INNER JOIN ([Shipping Methods] INNER JOIN (Vendors INNER JOIN
PurchaseOrders ON Vendors.VendorID =
PurchaseOrders.VendorID) ON [Shipping Methods].ShippingMethodID =
PurchaseOrders.ShippingMethodID) ON Locations.LocationID =
PurchaseOrders.LocationID) ON Department.DeptID = PurchaseOrders.DeptID
WHERE
(((PurchaseOrders.PurchaseOrderID)=[Forms]![PurchaseOrders]![PurchaseOrderID
]));

Joe Hecht
Los Angeles CA

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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Roz Clarke
Sent: Monday, June 06, 2005 7:34 AM
To: access at joe2.endjunk.com; 'Access Developers discussion and problem
solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Help with a query

your SQL would be helpful Joe

-----Original Message-----
From: Joe Hecht [mailto:jmhecht at earthlink.net] 
Sent: 06 June 2005 15:15
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] Help with a query


I have a database where a query works with about 14 of almost 5000 records.
 
I rewrote the query and still the same results
 
I have added data in some fields that were missing data.
 
Ant thoughts
 
TIA
 
Joe Hecht
Los Angeles CA
 
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From jmhecht at earthlink.net  Mon Jun  6 09:52:47 2005
From: jmhecht at earthlink.net (Joe Hecht)
Date: Mon, 6 Jun 2005 07:52:47 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Help with a query
In-Reply-To: <61F915314798D311A2F800A0C9C8318807225B02@dibble.observatory.donnslaw.co.uk>
Message-ID: <003d01c56aa7$680b7070$6401a8c0@laptop1>

I am building the query again as several queries to find records dropping
out.

How would I force all joins to be outer.

Thanks

Joe Hecht
Los Angeles CA

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Roz Clarke
Sent: Monday, June 06, 2005 7:51 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Help with a query

Well, your WHERE clause is simple enough that it's unlikely to be the
culprit.

Have you tried making all your joins outer instead of inner, in case any
information is missing from the child side?

-----Original Message-----
From: Joe Hecht [mailto:jmhecht at earthlink.net] 
Sent: 06 June 2005 15:41
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Help with a query


You are right

SELECT DISTINCTROW PurchaseOrders.PurchaseOrderID, Vendors.VendorName,
Vendors.Address, Vendors.City, Vendors.State, Vendors.Zip, Vendors.Phone,
Vendors.Fax, PurchaseOrders.DateOrdered, PurchaseOrders.DateRequired,
PurchaseOrders.ShippingMethodID, Locations.LocationName,
Locations.LocationAddress, Locations.LocationCity, Locations.LocationState,
Locations.LocationZip, Locations.LocationPhone, Locations.LocationFax,
[City] & " " & [State] & " " & [Zip] AS VendaddLine3, [LocationCity] & " " &
[LocationState] & " " & [LocationZip] AS LocationAddLine3, [Shipping
Methods].ShippingMethod, PurchaseOrders.Notes, PurchaseOrders.Initails,
Locations.LocationID, Department.Department FROM Department INNER JOIN
(Locations INNER JOIN ([Shipping Methods] INNER JOIN (Vendors INNER JOIN
PurchaseOrders ON Vendors.VendorID =
PurchaseOrders.VendorID) ON [Shipping Methods].ShippingMethodID =
PurchaseOrders.ShippingMethodID) ON Locations.LocationID =
PurchaseOrders.LocationID) ON Department.DeptID = PurchaseOrders.DeptID
WHERE
(((PurchaseOrders.PurchaseOrderID)=[Forms]![PurchaseOrders]![PurchaseOrderID
]));

Joe Hecht
Los Angeles CA

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Roz Clarke
Sent: Monday, June 06, 2005 7:34 AM
To: access at joe2.endjunk.com; 'Access Developers discussion and problem
solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Help with a query

your SQL would be helpful Joe

-----Original Message-----
From: Joe Hecht [mailto:jmhecht at earthlink.net] 
Sent: 06 June 2005 15:15
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] Help with a query


I have a database where a query works with about 14 of almost 5000 records.
 
I rewrote the query and still the same results
 
I have added data in some fields that were missing data.
 
Ant thoughts
 
TIA
 
Joe Hecht
Los Angeles CA
 
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From cfoust at infostatsystems.com  Mon Jun  6 09:52:52 2005
From: cfoust at infostatsystems.com (Charlotte Foust)
Date: Mon, 6 Jun 2005 07:52:52 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Copyright stuff
Message-ID: <E61FC1D4B1918244905B113C680BEA86873A71@infoserver01.infostat.local>

LOL  The name of a good attorney!  Actually, in the absence of a
specific contract that states otherwise, YOU hold the copyright to the
software, the church doesn't.

Charlotte Foust


-----Original Message-----
From: Bobby Heid [mailto:bheid at appdevgrp.com] 
Sent: Monday, June 06, 2005 5:40 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] Copyright stuff


Hey,

I have an app that I wrote for a church.  They are interested in selling
it to some other local churches.  They asked me to find out about
copyrighting it.  What do I need to know about copyrights?

Thanks,
Bobby

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From cfoust at infostatsystems.com  Mon Jun  6 09:57:14 2005
From: cfoust at infostatsystems.com (Charlotte Foust)
Date: Mon, 6 Jun 2005 07:57:14 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Replication 
Message-ID: <E61FC1D4B1918244905B113C680BEA8689A32C@infoserver01.infostat.local>

When you copy or convert a design master, the result is always a
replica.  You will have to turn that into a design master by
"recovering" it.  I don't have replication installed on this machine, so
I can't be more specific, but I'm sure someone else can jump in with the
details.

Charlotte Foust


-----Original Message-----
From: Barbara Ryan [mailto:BarbaraRyan at cox.net] 
Sent: Monday, June 06, 2005 4:58 AM
To: Access List
Subject: [AccessD] Replication 


Another question ---- I created a Design Master in Access 97 (when
opened in Access 97, the title bar says "Design Master").  When I
convert this Design Master to Access 2002, the title bar says "Replica".
How can I convert a 97 Design Master to a 2002 Design Master?

Thanks Again,
Barb Ryan
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From roz.clarke at donnslaw.co.uk  Mon Jun  6 10:24:57 2005
From: roz.clarke at donnslaw.co.uk (Roz Clarke)
Date: Mon, 6 Jun 2005 16:24:57 +0100 
Subject: [AccessD] Help with a query
Message-ID: <61F915314798D311A2F800A0C9C8318807225B04@dibble.observatory.donnslaw.co.uk>

double click on the join in the QBE window, and select the appropriate
option

-----Original Message-----
From: Joe Hecht [mailto:jmhecht at earthlink.net] 
Sent: 06 June 2005 15:53
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Help with a query


I am building the query again as several queries to find records dropping
out.

How would I force all joins to be outer.

Thanks

Joe Hecht
Los Angeles CA

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Roz Clarke
Sent: Monday, June 06, 2005 7:51 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Help with a query

Well, your WHERE clause is simple enough that it's unlikely to be the
culprit.

Have you tried making all your joins outer instead of inner, in case any
information is missing from the child side?

-----Original Message-----
From: Joe Hecht [mailto:jmhecht at earthlink.net] 
Sent: 06 June 2005 15:41
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Help with a query


You are right

SELECT DISTINCTROW PurchaseOrders.PurchaseOrderID, Vendors.VendorName,
Vendors.Address, Vendors.City, Vendors.State, Vendors.Zip, Vendors.Phone,
Vendors.Fax, PurchaseOrders.DateOrdered, PurchaseOrders.DateRequired,
PurchaseOrders.ShippingMethodID, Locations.LocationName,
Locations.LocationAddress, Locations.LocationCity, Locations.LocationState,
Locations.LocationZip, Locations.LocationPhone, Locations.LocationFax,
[City] & " " & [State] & " " & [Zip] AS VendaddLine3, [LocationCity] & " " &
[LocationState] & " " & [LocationZip] AS LocationAddLine3, [Shipping
Methods].ShippingMethod, PurchaseOrders.Notes, PurchaseOrders.Initails,
Locations.LocationID, Department.Department FROM Department INNER JOIN
(Locations INNER JOIN ([Shipping Methods] INNER JOIN (Vendors INNER JOIN
PurchaseOrders ON Vendors.VendorID =
PurchaseOrders.VendorID) ON [Shipping Methods].ShippingMethodID =
PurchaseOrders.ShippingMethodID) ON Locations.LocationID =
PurchaseOrders.LocationID) ON Department.DeptID = PurchaseOrders.DeptID
WHERE
(((PurchaseOrders.PurchaseOrderID)=[Forms]![PurchaseOrders]![PurchaseOrderID
]));

Joe Hecht
Los Angeles CA

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Roz Clarke
Sent: Monday, June 06, 2005 7:34 AM
To: access at joe2.endjunk.com; 'Access Developers discussion and problem
solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Help with a query

your SQL would be helpful Joe

-----Original Message-----
From: Joe Hecht [mailto:jmhecht at earthlink.net] 
Sent: 06 June 2005 15:15
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] Help with a query


I have a database where a query works with about 14 of almost 5000 records.
 
I rewrote the query and still the same results
 
I have added data in some fields that were missing data.
 
Ant thoughts
 
TIA
 
Joe Hecht
Los Angeles CA
 
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From jmhecht at earthlink.net  Mon Jun  6 10:32:02 2005
From: jmhecht at earthlink.net (Joe Hecht)
Date: Mon, 6 Jun 2005 08:32:02 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Help with a query (Solved)
Message-ID: <005901c56aac$e38d61e0$6401a8c0@laptop1>

Thanks to Rocky, Roz and John C
 
It was a join issue.
 
Under their tutelage and Guidance I got it.
 
THANK YOU
 
 
 
Joe Hecht
Los Angeles CA
 


From john at winhaven.net  Mon Jun  6 10:38:13 2005
From: john at winhaven.net (John Bartow)
Date: Mon, 6 Jun 2005 10:38:13 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Copyright stuff
In-Reply-To: <200506061443.j56EhZM4400092@pimout2-ext.prodigy.net>
Message-ID: <200506061538.j56FcGIK204482@pimout3-ext.prodigy.net>

I found it! It was quite receently discussed. Do an archive search on
"Copyright Ownership".

HTH
John 

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of John Bartow
Sent: Monday, June 06, 2005 9:44 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Copyright stuff

Bobby,
We've discussed it a bit before here and its a country specific question.

Make sure you cover yourself in this venture because you will be the one
answering all the questions!

John B.

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Bobby Heid
Sent: Monday, June 06, 2005 7:40 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] Copyright stuff

Hey,

I have an app that I wrote for a church.  They are interested in selling it
to some other local churches.  They asked me to find out about copyrighting
it.  What do I need to know about copyrights?

Thanks,
Bobby

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From martyconnelly at shaw.ca  Mon Jun  6 10:43:38 2005
From: martyconnelly at shaw.ca (MartyConnelly)
Date: Mon, 06 Jun 2005 08:43:38 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Copyright stuff
References: <E61FC1D4B1918244905B113C680BEA86873A71@infoserver01.infostat.local>
Message-ID: <42A46F2A.2010005@shaw.ca>

Copyright on software in US
Just for Info.
One other thing to do is file a copyright, you have a copyright 
automatically
 but you cannot sue for copyright infringement, unless it is registered 
with government
This costs $30. You send in roughly first and last 25 pages of source 
code with blocked out trade secrets.
Government processing time is six months.
For US details see:
Copyright Registration for Computer Programs

http://www.copyright.gov/circs/circ61.html#deposit

I suppose you could use SaveAsText to dump forms queries reports and 
modules to text files.

If you sell MDE's you might want to escrow your source code, there are 
sevice sites that
handle this, cost is about 100 -500 a year depending on dispersion and 
update practices.
You could do this via your local attorney and a couple of CD's but I 
think it would
leave the attorney scratching his head, if he doesn't do it on a regular 
basis.

Charlotte Foust wrote:

>LOL  The name of a good attorney!  Actually, in the absence of a
>specific contract that states otherwise, YOU hold the copyright to the
>software, the church doesn't.
>
>Charlotte Foust
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Bobby Heid [mailto:bheid at appdevgrp.com] 
>Sent: Monday, June 06, 2005 5:40 AM
>To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
>Subject: [AccessD] Copyright stuff
>
>
>Hey,
>
>I have an app that I wrote for a church.  They are interested in selling
>it to some other local churches.  They asked me to find out about
>copyrighting it.  What do I need to know about copyrights?
>
>Thanks,
>Bobby
>
>  
>

-- 
Marty Connelly
Victoria, B.C.
Canada





From bheid at appdevgrp.com  Mon Jun  6 11:19:50 2005
From: bheid at appdevgrp.com (Bobby Heid)
Date: Mon, 6 Jun 2005 12:19:50 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Copyright stuff
In-Reply-To: <916187228923D311A6FE00A0CC3FAA30BDC544@ADGSERVER>
Message-ID: <916187228923D311A6FE00A0CC3FAA30ABEBF4@ADGSERVER>

Thanks all for the links and information, this will get me started.

Bobby

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of MartyConnelly
Sent: Monday, June 06, 2005 11:44 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Copyright stuff


Copyright on software in US
Just for Info.
One other thing to do is file a copyright, you have a copyright 
automatically
 but you cannot sue for copyright infringement, unless it is registered 
with government
This costs $30. You send in roughly first and last 25 pages of source 
code with blocked out trade secrets.
Government processing time is six months.
For US details see:
Copyright Registration for Computer Programs

http://www.copyright.gov/circs/circ61.html#deposit

I suppose you could use SaveAsText to dump forms queries reports and 
modules to text files.

If you sell MDE's you might want to escrow your source code, there are 
sevice sites that
handle this, cost is about 100 -500 a year depending on dispersion and 
update practices.
You could do this via your local attorney and a couple of CD's but I 
think it would
leave the attorney scratching his head, if he doesn't do it on a regular 
basis.

Charlotte Foust wrote:

>LOL  The name of a good attorney!  Actually, in the absence of a 
>specific contract that states otherwise, YOU hold the copyright to the 
>software, the church doesn't.
>
>Charlotte Foust
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Bobby Heid [mailto:bheid at appdevgrp.com]
>Sent: Monday, June 06, 2005 5:40 AM
>To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
>Subject: [AccessD] Copyright stuff
>
>
>Hey,
>
>I have an app that I wrote for a church.  They are interested in 
>selling it to some other local churches.  They asked me to find out 
>about copyrighting it.  What do I need to know about copyrights?
>
>Thanks,
>Bobby
>
>  
>

-- 
Marty Connelly
Victoria, B.C.
Canada



From MarkBoyd at McBeeAssociates.com  Mon Jun  6 11:31:04 2005
From: MarkBoyd at McBeeAssociates.com (Mark Boyd)
Date: Mon, 6 Jun 2005 12:31:04 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Excel Macro Automation from within Access
Message-ID: <974F830FE464C14E8652F95E24DA663C043FA6@mail03.Mcbassoc.com>

Thanks Jim.  This is perfect!

Mark Boyd
I/S Supervisor
McBee Associates, Inc.


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Hale, Jim
Sent: Thursday, June 02, 2005 10:10 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Excel Macro Automation from within Access

I think the sequence you are looking for is similar to this:

Sub rpt_to_excel()
Dim appExcel As Excel.Application, strpathname As String Dim strpathnew
As String, strReport As String

strpathname = "C:\test.xls"
strpathnew = "C:\test2.xls"
strReport = "rptInvsummary"
DoCmd.OutputTo acOutputReport, strReport, acFormatXLS, strpathname

 Set appExcel = New Excel.Application
 
 'format your report
    With appExcel
        .Workbooks.Open strpathname, 0
        .Visible = True 'just to watch the sheet
        .Range("A1:G1").Select
        .Selection.Font.Bold = True
        .Selection.Font.Name = "Arial"
        .Selection.Font.Size = 12
        .ActiveWorkbook.SaveAs Filename:=strpathnew,
FileFormat:=xlNormal
    End With
     appExcel.Quit
    Set appExcel = Nothing
End Sub

This opens the file you output and saves it as a current version
workbook under a new name. 

As you debug be aware of leaving orphan instances of Excel in memory.
You can tell if any exist by placing the following script in notepad and
running
it:

Dim objXL
	Dim strMessage
	
	On Error Resume Next
	
	'	Try to grab a running instance of
	'	Excel...
	Set objXL = GetObject(, "Excel.Application")
	
	'	What did we find?..
	If Not TypeName(objXL) = "Empty" Then
		strMessage = "Excel Running."
	Else
		strMessage = "Excel Not Running."
	End If
	
	'	Feedback to user...
	MsgBox strMessage, vbInformation, "Excel Status"
	
	'	Make the Excel instance visible 
	'	if we found one
	if strMessage = "Excel Running." then _
				objXL.Visible = true 

-----Original Message-----
From: Mark Boyd [mailto:MarkBoyd at mcbeeassociates.com]
Sent: Wednesday, June 01, 2005 5:21 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Excel Macro Automation from within Access


Thanks Jim, this is pointing me in the right direction.

The export process is as follows:
1. Export report to Excel
2. Format report w/ macro
3. Save formatting changes
4. Attach file to email message

When using the SaveAs method, I'm prompted to overwrite the existing
excel file (the one just formatted).  Am I missing something in regard
to the properties of the SaveAs method, that will allow me to save the
existing, formatted file?  If I select Yes to overwrite the existing
file, all of the macro formats are lost.


Mark Boyd
I/S Supervisor
McBee Associates, Inc.


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Hale, Jim
Sent: Wednesday, June 01, 2005 3:40 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Excel Macro Automation from within Access

Are you saving the file using code? Check out Excel's SaveAs method. It
allows a fileformat parameter. I think xlWorkbookNormal is the correct
one.

Jim Hale


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From Jim.Hale at FleetPride.com  Mon Jun  6 13:43:16 2005
From: Jim.Hale at FleetPride.com (Hale, Jim)
Date: Mon, 6 Jun 2005 13:43:16 -0500 
Subject: [AccessD] Excel Macro Automation from within Access
Message-ID: <6A6AA9DF57E4F046BDA1E273BDDB6772337633@corp-es01.fleetpride.com>

I'm glad it worked for you. I was thinking that you might want to add a 
	Kill strpathname 'deletes original Excel sheet
statement after the new copy has been saved so you are left with only the
new copy.

Jim Hale

-----Original Message-----
From: Mark Boyd [mailto:MarkBoyd at mcbeeassociates.com]
Sent: Monday, June 06, 2005 11:31 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Excel Macro Automation from within Access


Thanks Jim.  This is perfect!

Mark Boyd
I/S Supervisor
McBee Associates, Inc.


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Hale, Jim
Sent: Thursday, June 02, 2005 10:10 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Excel Macro Automation from within Access

I think the sequence you are looking for is similar to this:

Sub rpt_to_excel()
Dim appExcel As Excel.Application, strpathname As String Dim strpathnew
As String, strReport As String

strpathname = "C:\test.xls"
strpathnew = "C:\test2.xls"
strReport = "rptInvsummary"
DoCmd.OutputTo acOutputReport, strReport, acFormatXLS, strpathname

 Set appExcel = New Excel.Application
 
 'format your report
    With appExcel
        .Workbooks.Open strpathname, 0
        .Visible = True 'just to watch the sheet
        .Range("A1:G1").Select
        .Selection.Font.Bold = True
        .Selection.Font.Name = "Arial"
        .Selection.Font.Size = 12
        .ActiveWorkbook.SaveAs Filename:=strpathnew,FileFormat:=xlNormal
    End With
     appExcel.Quit
    Set appExcel = Nothing
End Sub

This opens the file you output and saves it as a current version
workbook under a new name. 

As you debug be aware of leaving orphan instances of Excel in memory.
You can tell if any exist by placing the following script in notepad and
running
it:

Dim objXL
	Dim strMessage
	
	On Error Resume Next
	
	'	Try to grab a running instance of
	'	Excel...
	Set objXL = GetObject(, "Excel.Application")
	
	'	What did we find?..
	If Not TypeName(objXL) = "Empty" Then
		strMessage = "Excel Running."
	Else
		strMessage = "Excel Not Running."
	End If
	
	'	Feedback to user...
	MsgBox strMessage, vbInformation, "Excel Status"
	
	'	Make the Excel instance visible 
	'	if we found one
	if strMessage = "Excel Running." then _
				objXL.Visible = true 

-----Original Message-----
From: Mark Boyd [mailto:MarkBoyd at mcbeeassociates.com]
Sent: Wednesday, June 01, 2005 5:21 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Excel Macro Automation from within Access


Thanks Jim, this is pointing me in the right direction.

The export process is as follows:
1. Export report to Excel
2. Format report w/ macro
3. Save formatting changes
4. Attach file to email message

When using the SaveAs method, I'm prompted to overwrite the existing
excel file (the one just formatted).  Am I missing something in regard
to the properties of the SaveAs method, that will allow me to save the
existing, formatted file?  If I select Yes to overwrite the existing
file, all of the macro formats are lost.


Mark Boyd
I/S Supervisor
McBee Associates, Inc.



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From MarkBoyd at McBeeAssociates.com  Mon Jun  6 13:55:51 2005
From: MarkBoyd at McBeeAssociates.com (Mark Boyd)
Date: Mon, 6 Jun 2005 14:55:51 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Excel Macro Automation from within Access
Message-ID: <974F830FE464C14E8652F95E24DA663C043FAF@mail03.Mcbassoc.com>

Great idea.  I wasn't aware of the Kill statement.  My plan was to shell
a batch file to delete it, but this is much easier.

Thanks again,
Mark Boyd
I/S Supervisor
McBee Associates, Inc.


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Hale, Jim
Sent: Monday, June 06, 2005 2:43 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Excel Macro Automation from within Access

I'm glad it worked for you. I was thinking that you might want to add a 
	Kill strpathname 'deletes original Excel sheet statement after
the new copy has been saved so you are left with only the new copy.

Jim Hale

-----Original Message-----
From: Mark Boyd [mailto:MarkBoyd at mcbeeassociates.com]
Sent: Monday, June 06, 2005 11:31 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Excel Macro Automation from within Access


Thanks Jim.  This is perfect!

Mark Boyd
I/S Supervisor
McBee Associates, Inc.


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Hale, Jim
Sent: Thursday, June 02, 2005 10:10 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Excel Macro Automation from within Access

I think the sequence you are looking for is similar to this:

Sub rpt_to_excel()
Dim appExcel As Excel.Application, strpathname As String Dim strpathnew
As String, strReport As String

strpathname = "C:\test.xls"
strpathnew = "C:\test2.xls"
strReport = "rptInvsummary"
DoCmd.OutputTo acOutputReport, strReport, acFormatXLS, strpathname

 Set appExcel = New Excel.Application
 
 'format your report
    With appExcel
        .Workbooks.Open strpathname, 0
        .Visible = True 'just to watch the sheet
        .Range("A1:G1").Select
        .Selection.Font.Bold = True
        .Selection.Font.Name = "Arial"
        .Selection.Font.Size = 12
        .ActiveWorkbook.SaveAs Filename:=strpathnew,FileFormat:=xlNormal
    End With
     appExcel.Quit
    Set appExcel = Nothing
End Sub

This opens the file you output and saves it as a current version
workbook under a new name. 

As you debug be aware of leaving orphan instances of Excel in memory.
You can tell if any exist by placing the following script in notepad and
running
it:

Dim objXL
	Dim strMessage
	
	On Error Resume Next
	
	'	Try to grab a running instance of
	'	Excel...
	Set objXL = GetObject(, "Excel.Application")
	
	'	What did we find?..
	If Not TypeName(objXL) = "Empty" Then
		strMessage = "Excel Running."
	Else
		strMessage = "Excel Not Running."
	End If
	
	'	Feedback to user...
	MsgBox strMessage, vbInformation, "Excel Status"
	
	'	Make the Excel instance visible 
	'	if we found one
	if strMessage = "Excel Running." then _
				objXL.Visible = true 

-----Original Message-----
From: Mark Boyd [mailto:MarkBoyd at mcbeeassociates.com]
Sent: Wednesday, June 01, 2005 5:21 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Excel Macro Automation from within Access


Thanks Jim, this is pointing me in the right direction.

The export process is as follows:
1. Export report to Excel
2. Format report w/ macro
3. Save formatting changes
4. Attach file to email message

When using the SaveAs method, I'm prompted to overwrite the existing
excel file (the one just formatted).  Am I missing something in regard
to the properties of the SaveAs method, that will allow me to save the
existing, formatted file?  If I select Yes to overwrite the existing
file, all of the macro formats are lost.


Mark Boyd
I/S Supervisor
McBee Associates, Inc.



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If you have received this email in error please contact the sender and
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are responsible for screening its contents and the contents of any
attachments for the presence of viruses. No liability is accepted for
any damages caused by any virus transmitted by this email.
 
-----------------------------------------
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From Jim.Hale at FleetPride.com  Mon Jun  6 14:00:46 2005
From: Jim.Hale at FleetPride.com (Hale, Jim)
Date: Mon, 6 Jun 2005 14:00:46 -0500 
Subject: [AccessD] Excel Macro Automation from within Access
Message-ID: <6A6AA9DF57E4F046BDA1E273BDDB6772337634@corp-es01.fleetpride.com>

Just make sure before you kill it that the other file was successfully
created :->
Jim Hale

-----Original Message-----
From: Mark Boyd [mailto:MarkBoyd at mcbeeassociates.com]
Sent: Monday, June 06, 2005 1:56 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Excel Macro Automation from within Access


Great idea.  I wasn't aware of the Kill statement.  My plan was to shell
a batch file to delete it, but this is much easier.

Thanks again,
Mark Boyd
I/S Supervisor
McBee Associates, Inc.


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Hale, Jim
Sent: Monday, June 06, 2005 2:43 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Excel Macro Automation from within Access

I'm glad it worked for you. I was thinking that you might want to add a 
	Kill strpathname 'deletes original Excel sheet statement after
the new copy has been saved so you are left with only the new copy.

Jim Hale

-----Original Message-----
From: Mark Boyd [mailto:MarkBoyd at mcbeeassociates.com]
Sent: Monday, June 06, 2005 11:31 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Excel Macro Automation from within Access


Thanks Jim.  This is perfect!

Mark Boyd
I/S Supervisor
McBee Associates, Inc.


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[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Hale, Jim
Sent: Thursday, June 02, 2005 10:10 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Excel Macro Automation from within Access

I think the sequence you are looking for is similar to this:

Sub rpt_to_excel()
Dim appExcel As Excel.Application, strpathname As String Dim strpathnew
As String, strReport As String

strpathname = "C:\test.xls"
strpathnew = "C:\test2.xls"
strReport = "rptInvsummary"
DoCmd.OutputTo acOutputReport, strReport, acFormatXLS, strpathname

 Set appExcel = New Excel.Application
 
 'format your report
    With appExcel
        .Workbooks.Open strpathname, 0
        .Visible = True 'just to watch the sheet
        .Range("A1:G1").Select
        .Selection.Font.Bold = True
        .Selection.Font.Name = "Arial"
        .Selection.Font.Size = 12
        .ActiveWorkbook.SaveAs Filename:=strpathnew,FileFormat:=xlNormal
    End With
     appExcel.Quit
    Set appExcel = Nothing
End Sub

This opens the file you output and saves it as a current version
workbook under a new name. 

As you debug be aware of leaving orphan instances of Excel in memory.
You can tell if any exist by placing the following script in notepad and
running
it:

Dim objXL
	Dim strMessage
	
	On Error Resume Next
	
	'	Try to grab a running instance of
	'	Excel...
	Set objXL = GetObject(, "Excel.Application")
	
	'	What did we find?..
	If Not TypeName(objXL) = "Empty" Then
		strMessage = "Excel Running."
	Else
		strMessage = "Excel Not Running."
	End If
	
	'	Feedback to user...
	MsgBox strMessage, vbInformation, "Excel Status"
	
	'	Make the Excel instance visible 
	'	if we found one
	if strMessage = "Excel Running." then _
				objXL.Visible = true 

-----Original Message-----
From: Mark Boyd [mailto:MarkBoyd at mcbeeassociates.com]
Sent: Wednesday, June 01, 2005 5:21 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Excel Macro Automation from within Access


Thanks Jim, this is pointing me in the right direction.

The export process is as follows:
1. Export report to Excel
2. Format report w/ macro
3. Save formatting changes
4. Attach file to email message

When using the SaveAs method, I'm prompted to overwrite the existing
excel file (the one just formatted).  Am I missing something in regard
to the properties of the SaveAs method, that will allow me to save the
existing, formatted file?  If I select Yes to overwrite the existing
file, all of the macro formats are lost.


Mark Boyd
I/S Supervisor
McBee Associates, Inc.



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From erbachs at gmail.com  Mon Jun  6 16:21:45 2005
From: erbachs at gmail.com (Steve Erbach)
Date: Mon, 6 Jun 2005 16:21:45 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Access security question
Message-ID: <39cb22f30506061421710cef34@mail.gmail.com>

Dear Group,

I've converted an application to Access 2000 for a client. This
application is running on single user workstations at about a half
dozen places around the U.S. The question my client has is this:  Lets
say that the tables in the BE have Access security invoked. If the
FE/BE is distributed in MDE format with Access Runtime, can a user
with a full-bore package of Access start the application, break out of
it, and wind up with all the tables available to him for editing, etc?
This is provided that the security is administered by the software so
that the actual security password is not known by the user. Only user
names and application passwords would be known.

Or is it even possible for the application to handle Access security
like this. That is, can Access security work without a user explicitly
typing in a password?

Thank you.

Regards,

Steve Erbach
Scientific Marketing
Neenah, WI
www.swerbach.com
Security Page: www.swerbach.com/security


From cfoust at infostatsystems.com  Mon Jun  6 16:34:24 2005
From: cfoust at infostatsystems.com (Charlotte Foust)
Date: Mon, 6 Jun 2005 14:34:24 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Access security question
Message-ID: <E61FC1D4B1918244905B113C680BEA86873A75@infoserver01.infostat.local>

They can if the BE is not adequately secured, which means at the least
that the admin user is stripped of permissions and put in the users
group rather than the admins group.

Charlotte Foust


-----Original Message-----
From: Steve Erbach [mailto:erbachs at gmail.com] 
Sent: Monday, June 06, 2005 2:22 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: [AccessD] Access security question


Dear Group,

I've converted an application to Access 2000 for a client. This
application is running on single user workstations at about a half dozen
places around the U.S. The question my client has is this:  Lets say
that the tables in the BE have Access security invoked. If the FE/BE is
distributed in MDE format with Access Runtime, can a user with a
full-bore package of Access start the application, break out of it, and
wind up with all the tables available to him for editing, etc? This is
provided that the security is administered by the software so that the
actual security password is not known by the user. Only user names and
application passwords would be known.

Or is it even possible for the application to handle Access security
like this. That is, can Access security work without a user explicitly
typing in a password?

Thank you.

Regards,

Steve Erbach
Scientific Marketing
Neenah, WI
www.swerbach.com
Security Page: www.swerbach.com/security
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From jimdettman at earthlink.net  Mon Jun  6 16:50:52 2005
From: jimdettman at earthlink.net (Jim Dettman)
Date: Mon, 6 Jun 2005 17:50:52 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Access security question
In-Reply-To: <39cb22f30506061421710cef34@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <NDEALJOEGMMPCDKIFGNFEEEFDFAA.jimdettman@earthlink.net>

Steve,

<<Or is it even possible for the application to handle Access security
like this. That is, can Access security work without a user explicitly
typing in a password?>>

  Yes it can.  Access security is always "on", it's just that you don't get
a password prompt if the admin user has a blank password (JET always
attempts a logon with username admin and a blank password when it first
tries to open a database).

<<Lets
say that the tables in the BE have Access security invoked. If the
FE/BE is distributed in MDE format with Access Runtime, can a user
with a full-bore package of Access start the application, break out of
it, and wind up with all the tables available to him for editing, etc?
This is provided that the security is administered by the software so
that the actual security password is not known by the user. Only user
names and application passwords would be known.>>

  Without Access user level security in place on the BE tables, yes.  To
prevent that, they need to be properly secured with user level security and
all the queries will need RWO (Run with owner permissions) set or you need
to open a workspace object with the correct username/password in code.

Jim.


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Sent: Monday, June 06, 2005 5:22 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: [AccessD] Access security question


Dear Group,

I've converted an application to Access 2000 for a client. This
application is running on single user workstations at about a half
dozen places around the U.S. The question my client has is this:  Lets
say that the tables in the BE have Access security invoked. If the
FE/BE is distributed in MDE format with Access Runtime, can a user
with a full-bore package of Access start the application, break out of
it, and wind up with all the tables available to him for editing, etc?
This is provided that the security is administered by the software so
that the actual security password is not known by the user. Only user
names and application passwords would be known.

Or is it even possible for the application to handle Access security
like this. That is, can Access security work without a user explicitly
typing in a password?

Thank you.

Regards,

Steve Erbach
Scientific Marketing
Neenah, WI
www.swerbach.com
Security Page: www.swerbach.com/security
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From darsant at gmail.com  Mon Jun  6 17:23:01 2005
From: darsant at gmail.com (Josh McFarlane)
Date: Mon, 6 Jun 2005 17:23:01 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Access security question
In-Reply-To: <NDEALJOEGMMPCDKIFGNFEEEFDFAA.jimdettman@earthlink.net>
References: <39cb22f30506061421710cef34@mail.gmail.com>
	<NDEALJOEGMMPCDKIFGNFEEEFDFAA.jimdettman@earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <53c8e05a0506061523523a63be@mail.gmail.com>

On 6/6/05, Jim Dettman <jimdettman at earthlink.net> wrote:
> Steve,
> 
> <<Or is it even possible for the application to handle Access security
> like this. That is, can Access security work without a user explicitly
> typing in a password?>>
> 
>   Yes it can.  Access security is always "on", it's just that you don't get
> a password prompt if the admin user has a blank password (JET always
> attempts a logon with username admin and a blank password when it first
> tries to open a database).
> 
> <<Lets
> say that the tables in the BE have Access security invoked. If the
> FE/BE is distributed in MDE format with Access Runtime, can a user
> with a full-bore package of Access start the application, break out of
> it, and wind up with all the tables available to him for editing, etc?
> This is provided that the security is administered by the software so
> that the actual security password is not known by the user. Only user
> names and application passwords would be known.>>
> 
>   Without Access user level security in place on the BE tables, yes.  To
> prevent that, they need to be properly secured with user level security and
> all the queries will need RWO (Run with owner permissions) set or you need
> to open a workspace object with the correct username/password in code.
> 
> Jim.
Here's another access security question:

In terms of front-end security, can a front-end truly be locked down
to force a user to remain in the GUI and abide by it's code?

Coding in C++ with an interface to an Access backend allows you to
allow the user to only work in the program your way, without tinkering
with the tables (you can always password protect the Access database
then encode the password into the program itself).

However, in also using Access as a front end, it seems to me that a
user could still break out the loop and use whatever queries had write
access to manually go in and mess around with things, sometimes
allowing a bypass of a transaction log.

Can Access be locked down so someone who knows a thing or two about
Access can't modify data directly?

Thanks,
Josh McFarlane

"Peace cannot be kept by force. It can only be achieved by understanding."
-Albert Einstein


From KIsmert at texassystems.com  Mon Jun  6 18:27:53 2005
From: KIsmert at texassystems.com (Ken Ismert)
Date: Mon, 6 Jun 2005 18:27:53 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Copyright stuff
Message-ID: <B7C87D3ABC87FC4E8CFE054CE2E8868A0708CA@aries.TexasSystems.local>


Bobby,

Given the charitable nature of the organizations that the software is
intended for, you might consider copyrighting it under one of several
open source licenses, and giving it away.

The copyright is still vital, because it establishes authorship, and,
depending on the type of license, places limits on how the software can
be used. 

Also, note that going open source does not preclude the possibility of
making money. The focus merely shifts from selling software to selling
services and support around the software. The software then becomes a
tool for gaining market penetration, an makes you, the author, the
logical person to go to for conversions, training, paid extensions, etc.

Open Source Initiative
http://www.opensource.org/

Free Software Foundation:
http://www.fsf.org/

-Ken

-----Original Message-----
From: Bobby Heid [mailto:bheid at appdevgrp.com] 
Sent: Monday, June 06, 2005 11:20 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Copyright stuff

Thanks all for the links and information, this will get me started.

Bobby



From relations at rescom.cc  Mon Jun  6 18:37:37 2005
From: relations at rescom.cc (Res-Com Environmental)
Date: Mon, 6 Jun 2005 16:37:37 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Insert Access Info Into Web page
Message-ID: <JIEKIIMEGLDLMJDHKMOLKELPCEAA.relations@rescom.cc>

Dear List:

Is there a way that Access information (such as names and addresses) can be
inserted into a website's form fields? We are trying to use a businesses
website that doesn't offer special connections so we have to manually enter
information from our database.

Adam
ResCom




From paul.hartland at isharp.co.uk  Tue Jun  7 02:21:22 2005
From: paul.hartland at isharp.co.uk (Paul Hartland (ISHARP))
Date: Tue, 7 Jun 2005 08:21:22 +0100
Subject: [AccessD] Access security question
In-Reply-To: <E61FC1D4B1918244905B113C680BEA86873A75@infoserver01.infostat.local>
Message-ID: <!~!UENERkVCMDkAAQACAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAC4AAAAAAAAAclrM129q6km1GlSfRwF8CgEAFKerAD79REu7GTojEo2iDgAAAAddkgAAEAAAAKOO38cAfRtLoSX9aH85URoBAAAAAA==@isharp.co.uk>

Talking of Access security, can someone tell me a good point of reference
for a novice in Access security to get started.  I have tinkered about with
it before for a very short while without much success.  Basically I think I
am looking for some sort of total idiots guide to Access Security....

Help/sample web pages etc greatly appreciated....

Paul Hartland 

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Charlotte Foust
Sent: 06 June 2005 22:34
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Access security question

They can if the BE is not adequately secured, which means at the least that
the admin user is stripped of permissions and put in the users group rather
than the admins group.

Charlotte Foust


-----Original Message-----
From: Steve Erbach [mailto:erbachs at gmail.com]
Sent: Monday, June 06, 2005 2:22 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: [AccessD] Access security question


Dear Group,

I've converted an application to Access 2000 for a client. This
application is running on single user workstations at about a half dozen
places around the U.S. The question my client has is this:  Lets say
that the tables in the BE have Access security invoked. If the FE/BE is
distributed in MDE format with Access Runtime, can a user with a
full-bore package of Access start the application, break out of it, and
wind up with all the tables available to him for editing, etc? This is
provided that the security is administered by the software so that the
actual security password is not known by the user. Only user names and
application passwords would be known.

Or is it even possible for the application to handle Access security
like this. That is, can Access security work without a user explicitly
typing in a password?

Thank you.

Regards,

Steve Erbach
Scientific Marketing
Neenah, WI
www.swerbach.com
Security Page: www.swerbach.com/security
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From paul.hartland at fsmail.net  Tue Jun  7 02:36:00 2005
From: paul.hartland at fsmail.net (paul.hartland at fsmail.net)
Date: Tue,  7 Jun 2005 09:36:00 +0200 (CEST)
Subject: [AccessD] More MapPoint Help If Possible
Message-ID: <8071615.1118129760195.JavaMail.www@wwinf3101>

To all,

Firstly many thanks for all the MapPoint help already given.  What I would like to know is what would be the fastest way to send a Client Postcode and around 450 Employee postcodes to either an ActiveX or API call with MapPoint and return the mileage from the Client for every employee.  I have played around a little bit but it seems slow so I am probably doing something wrong.

Many thanks in advance once again for any help on this.....

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From KP at sdsonline.net  Tue Jun  7 04:02:25 2005
From: KP at sdsonline.net (Kath Pelletti)
Date: Tue, 7 Jun 2005 19:02:25 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] Access security question
References: <!~!UENERkVCMDkAAQACAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAC4AAAAAAAAAclrM129q6km1GlSfRwF8CgEAFKerAD79REu7GTojEo2iDgAAAAddkgAAEAAAAKOO38cAfRtLoSX9aH85URoBAAAAAA==@isharp.co.uk>
Message-ID: <004401c56b3f$a0e41120$6601a8c0@user>

Hi Paul - here's the link for the Access security FAQ.

http://support.microsoft.com/support/access/content/secfaq.asp 

HTH
Kath


  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Paul Hartland (ISHARP) 
  To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' 
  Sent: Tuesday, June 07, 2005 5:21 PM
  Subject: RE: [AccessD] Access security question


  Talking of Access security, can someone tell me a good point of reference
  for a novice in Access security to get started.  I have tinkered about with
  it before for a very short while without much success.  Basically I think I
  am looking for some sort of total idiots guide to Access Security....

  Help/sample web pages etc greatly appreciated....

  Paul Hartland 

  -----Original Message-----
  From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
  [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Charlotte Foust
  Sent: 06 June 2005 22:34
  To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
  Subject: RE: [AccessD] Access security question

  They can if the BE is not adequately secured, which means at the least that
  the admin user is stripped of permissions and put in the users group rather
  than the admins group.

  Charlotte Foust


  -----Original Message-----
  From: Steve Erbach [mailto:erbachs at gmail.com]
  Sent: Monday, June 06, 2005 2:22 PM
  To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
  Subject: [AccessD] Access security question


  Dear Group,

  I've converted an application to Access 2000 for a client. This
  application is running on single user workstations at about a half dozen
  places around the U.S. The question my client has is this:  Lets say
  that the tables in the BE have Access security invoked. If the FE/BE is
  distributed in MDE format with Access Runtime, can a user with a
  full-bore package of Access start the application, break out of it, and
  wind up with all the tables available to him for editing, etc? This is
  provided that the security is administered by the software so that the
  actual security password is not known by the user. Only user names and
  application passwords would be known.

  Or is it even possible for the application to handle Access security
  like this. That is, can Access security work without a user explicitly
  typing in a password?

  Thank you.

  Regards,

  Steve Erbach
  Scientific Marketing
  Neenah, WI
  www.swerbach.com
  Security Page: www.swerbach.com/security
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From paul.hartland at isharp.co.uk  Tue Jun  7 04:12:35 2005
From: paul.hartland at isharp.co.uk (Paul Hartland (ISHARP))
Date: Tue, 7 Jun 2005 10:12:35 +0100
Subject: [AccessD] Access security question
In-Reply-To: <004401c56b3f$a0e41120$6601a8c0@user>
Message-ID: <!~!UENERkVCMDkAAQACAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAC4AAAAAAAAAclrM129q6km1GlSfRwF8CgEAFKerAD79REu7GTojEo2iDgAAAAddkgAAEAAAAMqdIwv8ShhEmepN112BxIwBAAAAAA==@isharp.co.uk>

Thanks will look into it 

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Kath Pelletti
Sent: 07 June 2005 10:02
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Access security question

Hi Paul - here's the link for the Access security FAQ.

http://support.microsoft.com/support/access/content/secfaq.asp 

HTH
Kath


  ----- Original Message -----
  From: Paul Hartland (ISHARP)
  To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' 
  Sent: Tuesday, June 07, 2005 5:21 PM
  Subject: RE: [AccessD] Access security question


  Talking of Access security, can someone tell me a good point of reference
  for a novice in Access security to get started.  I have tinkered about
with
  it before for a very short while without much success.  Basically I think
I
  am looking for some sort of total idiots guide to Access Security....

  Help/sample web pages etc greatly appreciated....

  Paul Hartland 

  -----Original Message-----
  From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
  [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Charlotte Foust
  Sent: 06 June 2005 22:34
  To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
  Subject: RE: [AccessD] Access security question

  They can if the BE is not adequately secured, which means at the least
that
  the admin user is stripped of permissions and put in the users group
rather
  than the admins group.

  Charlotte Foust


  -----Original Message-----
  From: Steve Erbach [mailto:erbachs at gmail.com]
  Sent: Monday, June 06, 2005 2:22 PM
  To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
  Subject: [AccessD] Access security question


  Dear Group,

  I've converted an application to Access 2000 for a client. This
  application is running on single user workstations at about a half dozen
  places around the U.S. The question my client has is this:  Lets say
  that the tables in the BE have Access security invoked. If the FE/BE is
  distributed in MDE format with Access Runtime, can a user with a
  full-bore package of Access start the application, break out of it, and
  wind up with all the tables available to him for editing, etc? This is
  provided that the security is administered by the software so that the
  actual security password is not known by the user. Only user names and
  application passwords would be known.

  Or is it even possible for the application to handle Access security
  like this. That is, can Access security work without a user explicitly
  typing in a password?

  Thank you.

  Regards,

  Steve Erbach
  Scientific Marketing
  Neenah, WI
  www.swerbach.com
  Security Page: www.swerbach.com/security
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From mmattys at rochester.rr.com  Tue Jun  7 05:33:26 2005
From: mmattys at rochester.rr.com (Michael R Mattys)
Date: Tue, 7 Jun 2005 06:33:26 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] More MapPoint Help If Possible
References: <8071615.1118129760195.JavaMail.www@wwinf3101>
Message-ID: <013601c56b4c$58b99110$0202a8c0@default>

Paul,

It's best to have the map _not_ visible, 
or at least locked from refreshing, when 
processing that much data. The graphics
in MapPoint are spectacular, but they take
a lot of resources.

Also, allow MapPoint's own Import Wizard 
to do the work when possible. It will make the
fastest routine you have look silly ... and the 
more data you feed it, the faster it goes!

----

Michael R. Mattys
Mattys MapLib for Microsoft MapPoint 
http://www.mattysconsulting.com


From Gustav at cactus.dk  Tue Jun  7 06:41:48 2005
From: Gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Tue, 07 Jun 2005 13:41:48 +0200
Subject: [AccessD] Access security question
Message-ID: <s2a5a427.074@cactus.dk>

Hi Paul

There's a book on the subject:

http://www.vb123.com/toolshed/00_accvb/accesssecurity.htm

/gustav

>>> paul.hartland at isharp.co.uk 06/07 9:21 am >>>
Talking of Access security, can someone tell me a good point of
reference
for a novice in Access security to get started.  I have tinkered about
with
it before for a very short while without much success.  Basically I
think I
am looking for some sort of total idiots guide to Access Security....

Help/sample web pages etc greatly appreciated....

Paul Hartland 



From erbachs at gmail.com  Tue Jun  7 06:46:55 2005
From: erbachs at gmail.com (Steve Erbach)
Date: Tue, 7 Jun 2005 06:46:55 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Access security question
In-Reply-To: <E61FC1D4B1918244905B113C680BEA86873A75@infoserver01.infostat.local>
References: <E61FC1D4B1918244905B113C680BEA86873A75@infoserver01.infostat.local>
Message-ID: <39cb22f305060704465e9785a8@mail.gmail.com>

Charlotte, Jim, and Kath,

Thanks for the clear responses and resources. I appreciate it.

Steve Erbach

On 6/6/05, Charlotte Foust <cfoust at infostatsystems.com> wrote:
> They can if the BE is not adequately secured, which means at the least
> that the admin user is stripped of permissions and put in the users
> group rather than the admins group.
> 
> Charlotte Foust


Without Access user level security in place on the BE tables, yes.  To
prevent that, they need to be properly secured with user level security and
all the queries will need RWO (Run with owner permissions) set or you need
to open a workspace object with the correct username/password in code.

Jim.


here's the link for the Access security FAQ.

http://support.microsoft.com/support/access/content/secfaq.asp

HTH
Kath


From paul.hartland at isharp.co.uk  Tue Jun  7 06:48:30 2005
From: paul.hartland at isharp.co.uk (Paul Hartland (ISHARP))
Date: Tue, 7 Jun 2005 12:48:30 +0100
Subject: [AccessD] Access security question
In-Reply-To: <s2a5a427.074@cactus.dk>
Message-ID: <!~!UENERkVCMDkAAQACAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAC4AAAAAAAAAclrM129q6km1GlSfRwF8CgEAFKerAD79REu7GTojEo2iDgAAAAddkgAAEAAAAMAyWF/1egdHuvkXy8pbv1EBAAAAAA==@isharp.co.uk>

Thanks will look into that as well, really need to get upto speed on Access
Security. 

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[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gustav Brock
Sent: 07 June 2005 12:42
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Access security question

Hi Paul

There's a book on the subject:

http://www.vb123.com/toolshed/00_accvb/accesssecurity.htm

/gustav

>>> paul.hartland at isharp.co.uk 06/07 9:21 am >>>
Talking of Access security, can someone tell me a good point of reference
for a novice in Access security to get started.  I have tinkered about with
it before for a very short while without much success.  Basically I think I
am looking for some sort of total idiots guide to Access Security....

Help/sample web pages etc greatly appreciated....

Paul Hartland 

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From jimdettman at earthlink.net  Tue Jun  7 07:05:26 2005
From: jimdettman at earthlink.net (Jim Dettman)
Date: Tue, 7 Jun 2005 08:05:26 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Access security question
In-Reply-To: <53c8e05a0506061523523a63be@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <NDEALJOEGMMPCDKIFGNFGEGLDFAA.jimdettman@earthlink.net>

Josh,

  First let me say that the security in Access has always been weak.  If
security is a concern, then you need to be using something other then
Access/JET.  This is even outside of the fact that cracking tools for both
database and user level security are now widespread, which makes talking
about Access security at all a rather moot point.  I don't use it at all any
more.  It's not worth the effort.

  Second, keep in mind that we are talking about JET as the database engine,
not with SQL server as the BE.

<<In terms of front-end security, can a front-end truly be locked down
to force a user to remain in the GUI and abide by it's code?>>

  Yes.

<<Coding in C++ with an interface to an Access backend allows you to
allow the user to only work in the program your way, without tinkering
with the tables (you can always password protect the Access database
then encode the password into the program itself).

However, in also using Access as a front end, it seems to me that a
user could still break out the loop and use whatever queries had write
access to manually go in and mess around with things, sometimes
allowing a bypass of a transaction log.>>

  It depends on how you set things up.  If you open workspace objects in
code and access the tables that way and your distributing as a mde, then
there is no way for them to get at them other then through the FE.

  If you setup queries to run with owner permissions, then you must keep
them out of the database container.  That still partially works as they
won't be able to open the tables directly, but they will be able to execute
any of the queries.

  I see someone has already posted the link to the FAQ, which is the #1
resource for the security stuff.  Give it a read if you have time.

Jim.




-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Josh McFarlane
Sent: Monday, June 06, 2005 6:23 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Access security question


On 6/6/05, Jim Dettman <jimdettman at earthlink.net> wrote:
> Steve,
>
> <<Or is it even possible for the application to handle Access security
> like this. That is, can Access security work without a user explicitly
> typing in a password?>>
>
>   Yes it can.  Access security is always "on", it's just that you don't
get
> a password prompt if the admin user has a blank password (JET always
> attempts a logon with username admin and a blank password when it first
> tries to open a database).
>
> <<Lets
> say that the tables in the BE have Access security invoked. If the
> FE/BE is distributed in MDE format with Access Runtime, can a user
> with a full-bore package of Access start the application, break out of
> it, and wind up with all the tables available to him for editing, etc?
> This is provided that the security is administered by the software so
> that the actual security password is not known by the user. Only user
> names and application passwords would be known.>>
>
>   Without Access user level security in place on the BE tables, yes.  To
> prevent that, they need to be properly secured with user level security
and
> all the queries will need RWO (Run with owner permissions) set or you need
> to open a workspace object with the correct username/password in code.
>
> Jim.
Here's another access security question:

In terms of front-end security, can a front-end truly be locked down
to force a user to remain in the GUI and abide by it's code?

Coding in C++ with an interface to an Access backend allows you to
allow the user to only work in the program your way, without tinkering
with the tables (you can always password protect the Access database
then encode the password into the program itself).

However, in also using Access as a front end, it seems to me that a
user could still break out the loop and use whatever queries had write
access to manually go in and mess around with things, sometimes
allowing a bypass of a transaction log.

Can Access be locked down so someone who knows a thing or two about
Access can't modify data directly?

Thanks,
Josh McFarlane

"Peace cannot be kept by force. It can only be achieved by understanding."
-Albert Einstein
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From BarbaraRyan at cox.net  Tue Jun  7 07:35:16 2005
From: BarbaraRyan at cox.net (Barbara Ryan)
Date: Tue, 7 Jun 2005 08:35:16 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Replication Manager
Message-ID: <003701c56b5d$5bd5dc80$0a00a8c0@cx470148a>

Where I can I find Replication Manager for Access 2002?  Is it a separate interface from the Replication option under Tools in Access 2002?  I can't seem to locate it on the Office XP Pro installation CD.

Thanks,
Barb Ryan

From spikee at oatlandspark.org.uk  Tue Jun  7 07:43:34 2005
From: spikee at oatlandspark.org.uk (Chris Foote (Spike))
Date: Tue, 7 Jun 2005 13:43:34 +0100
Subject: [AccessD] Access-based website "hit" analyser?
Message-ID: <NBBBJDKBBONNJNBIILLHKEBCEFAA.spikee@oatlandspark.org.uk>

Hello listers!

Has anyone got, or know where I can find an Access based "hit" analyser for
an Apache web server.

I'm looking for something to analyse the text log files that I get e-mailed
every 24hours. I could craft my own, but if there is an existing app. that I
could use as a basis...

Regards
Chris Foote - UK




From Chester_Kaup at kindermorgan.com  Tue Jun  7 08:54:37 2005
From: Chester_Kaup at kindermorgan.com (Kaup, Chester)
Date: Tue, 7 Jun 2005 08:54:37 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Code to open table fails
Message-ID: <F1DD538AE6BCE74EBE562DE51564D322D14707@houexch1.kindermorgan.com>

I have used this code in many Access 2003 databases successfully. Just
tried it in a 2003 version database and it will not open the table. I
have checked and the table exists and name matched. I can open the table
no problem from the table list. What may be happening here?

 

Sub TableNames()

 

    Set MyDB = CurrentDb()

    Set AllTableDefs = MyDB.TableDefs

    Set myds = MyDB.OpenRecordset("tbl Table Definitions", dbOpenTable)

 

Chester Kaup

Engineering Technician

Kinder Morgan CO2 Company, LLP

Office (432) 688-3797

FAX (432) 688-3799

 



From jeffrey.demulling at usbank.com  Tue Jun  7 09:10:31 2005
From: jeffrey.demulling at usbank.com (jeffrey.demulling at usbank.com)
Date: Tue, 7 Jun 2005 09:10:31 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Code to open table fails
In-Reply-To: <F1DD538AE6BCE74EBE562DE51564D322D14707@houexch1.kindermorgan.com>
Message-ID: <OF680CA92E.A50AEC00-ON86257019.004DB2BA-86257019.004D6737@usbank.com>

Check your references to make sure DAO is selected and then declare your
variables as follows:

Dim MyDB  as DAO.Database
Dim AllTableDefs as DAO.TableDef
Dim myds as DAO.Recordset


Jeffrey F. Demulling
Project Manager
U.S. Bank Corporate Trust Services
60 Livingston Avenue
EP-MN-WS3C
St. Paul, MN  55107-2292
Ph: 651-495-3925
Fax: 651-495-8103
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I have used this code in many Access 2003 databases successfully. Just
tried it in a 2003 version database and it will not open the table. I
have checked and the table exists and name matched. I can open the table
no problem from the table list. What may be happening here?



Sub TableNames()



    Set MyDB = CurrentDb()

    Set AllTableDefs = MyDB.TableDefs

    Set myds = MyDB.OpenRecordset("tbl Table Definitions", dbOpenTable)



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From bheid at appdevgrp.com  Tue Jun  7 09:14:52 2005
From: bheid at appdevgrp.com (Bobby Heid)
Date: Tue, 7 Jun 2005 10:14:52 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Code to open table fails
In-Reply-To: <916187228923D311A6FE00A0CC3FAA30BDC6B6@ADGSERVER>
Message-ID: <916187228923D311A6FE00A0CC3FAA30ABEBFA@ADGSERVER>

What error message are you getting?  
Do you have a reference set to DAO instead of the default ADO?  
If you have a reference to both ADO and DAO, is the DAO first?

Bobby

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Sent: Tuesday, June 07, 2005 9:55 AM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [AccessD] Code to open table fails


I have used this code in many Access 2003 databases successfully. Just tried
it in a 2003 version database and it will not open the table. I have checked
and the table exists and name matched. I can open the table no problem from
the table list. What may be happening here?

 

Sub TableNames()

 

    Set MyDB = CurrentDb()

    Set AllTableDefs = MyDB.TableDefs

    Set myds = MyDB.OpenRecordset("tbl Table Definitions", dbOpenTable)

 

Chester Kaup

Engineering Technician

Kinder Morgan CO2 Company, LLP

Office (432) 688-3797

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From Lambert.Heenan at AIG.com  Tue Jun  7 09:21:42 2005
From: Lambert.Heenan at AIG.com (Heenan, Lambert)
Date: Tue, 7 Jun 2005 10:21:42 -0400 
Subject: [AccessD] Code to open table fails
Message-ID: <1D7828CDB8350747AFE9D69E0E90DA1F1121425A@xlivmbx21.aig.com>

Could it be as simple as the spaces in the table name? Have you tried...

Set myds = MyDB.OpenRecordset("[tbl Table Definitions]", dbOpenTable)

...?

Lambert

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Sent: Tuesday, June 07, 2005 9:55 AM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [AccessD] Code to open table fails


I have used this code in many Access 2003 databases successfully. Just tried
it in a 2003 version database and it will not open the table. I have checked
and the table exists and name matched. I can open the table no problem from
the table list. What may be happening here?

 

Sub TableNames()

 

    Set MyDB = CurrentDb()

    Set AllTableDefs = MyDB.TableDefs

    Set myds = MyDB.OpenRecordset("tbl Table Definitions", dbOpenTable)

 

Chester Kaup

Engineering Technician

Kinder Morgan CO2 Company, LLP

Office (432) 688-3797

FAX (432) 688-3799

 

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From Chester_Kaup at kindermorgan.com  Tue Jun  7 09:21:44 2005
From: Chester_Kaup at kindermorgan.com (Kaup, Chester)
Date: Tue, 7 Jun 2005 09:21:44 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Code to open table fails
Message-ID: <F1DD538AE6BCE74EBE562DE51564D322D14729@houexch1.kindermorgan.com>

Thanks! That was it.

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jeffrey.demulling at usbank.com
Sent: Tuesday, June 07, 2005 9:11 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Code to open table fails

Check your references to make sure DAO is selected and then declare your
variables as follows:

Dim MyDB  as DAO.Database
Dim AllTableDefs as DAO.TableDef
Dim myds as DAO.Recordset


Jeffrey F. Demulling
Project Manager
U.S. Bank Corporate Trust Services
60 Livingston Avenue
EP-MN-WS3C
St. Paul, MN  55107-2292
Ph: 651-495-3925
Fax: 651-495-8103
email: jeffrey.demulling at usbank.com


 

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I have used this code in many Access 2003 databases successfully. Just
tried it in a 2003 version database and it will not open the table. I
have checked and the table exists and name matched. I can open the table
no problem from the table list. What may be happening here?



Sub TableNames()



    Set MyDB = CurrentDb()

    Set AllTableDefs = MyDB.TableDefs

    Set myds = MyDB.OpenRecordset("tbl Table Definitions", dbOpenTable)



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From Chester_Kaup at kindermorgan.com  Tue Jun  7 09:22:19 2005
From: Chester_Kaup at kindermorgan.com (Kaup, Chester)
Date: Tue, 7 Jun 2005 09:22:19 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Code to open table fails
Message-ID: <F1DD538AE6BCE74EBE562DE51564D322D1472B@houexch1.kindermorgan.com>

Needed DAO reference. Thanks!

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Bobby Heid
Sent: Tuesday, June 07, 2005 9:15 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Code to open table fails

What error message are you getting?  
Do you have a reference set to DAO instead of the default ADO?  
If you have a reference to both ADO and DAO, is the DAO first?

Bobby

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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Kaup, Chester
Sent: Tuesday, June 07, 2005 9:55 AM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [AccessD] Code to open table fails


I have used this code in many Access 2003 databases successfully. Just
tried
it in a 2003 version database and it will not open the table. I have
checked
and the table exists and name matched. I can open the table no problem
from
the table list. What may be happening here?

 

Sub TableNames()

 

    Set MyDB = CurrentDb()

    Set AllTableDefs = MyDB.TableDefs

    Set myds = MyDB.OpenRecordset("tbl Table Definitions", dbOpenTable)

 

Chester Kaup

Engineering Technician

Kinder Morgan CO2 Company, LLP

Office (432) 688-3797

FAX (432) 688-3799

 

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From DWUTKA at marlow.com  Tue Jun  7 09:48:20 2005
From: DWUTKA at marlow.com (DWUTKA at marlow.com)
Date: Tue, 7 Jun 2005 09:48:20 -0500 
Subject: [AccessD] Insert Access Info Into Web page
Message-ID: <123701F54509D9119A4F00D0B747349016D667@main2.marlow.com>

You can open an instance of IE (then go to the site you want to 'dump' the
data too), and you can then interact with IE's document object to insert
your data.

Drew

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From: Res-Com Environmental [mailto:relations at rescom.cc]
Sent: Monday, June 06, 2005 6:38 PM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [AccessD] Insert Access Info Into Web page


Dear List:

Is there a way that Access information (such as names and addresses) can be
inserted into a website's form fields? We are trying to use a businesses
website that doesn't offer special connections so we have to manually enter
information from our database.

Adam
ResCom


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From JRojas at tnco-inc.com  Tue Jun  7 10:10:08 2005
From: JRojas at tnco-inc.com (Joe Rojas)
Date: Tue, 7 Jun 2005 11:10:08 -0400 
Subject: [AccessD] Creating SPC charts
Message-ID: <0CC84C9461AE6445AD5A602001C41C4B05A323@mercury.tnco-inc.com>

Hello,
(Access 2000)

I need to create statistical process control charts. Also known as X-bar
charts, R-charts, ect.

I already have the data but I don't know how to generate these kinds of
charts in Access.
Has anyone created these kinds of charts before?

Thanks!
JR




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From Alun.Garraway at otto.de  Tue Jun  7 10:12:20 2005
From: Alun.Garraway at otto.de (Garraway, Alun)
Date: Tue, 7 Jun 2005 17:12:20 +0200
Subject: [AccessD] deleting first line of a text file?
Message-ID: <D096EDDAA3939B45BEAF0F506801709A0806D9@ntovmail03.ov.otto.de>

hallo,

how do I delete the first line of a text file (whats the command)?

or in other words

Function DeleteFirstLine(strFile As String)
    Dim varFile As Variant
    
    varFile = FreeFile
    Open strFile For Input As #varFile (is open For  Input correct?)
    
   what do I put in here??????????


End Function

TIA :-)
alun


From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com  Tue Jun  7 10:22:48 2005
From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (John W. Colby)
Date: Tue, 7 Jun 2005 11:22:48 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] deleting first line of a text file?
In-Reply-To: <D096EDDAA3939B45BEAF0F506801709A0806D9@ntovmail03.ov.otto.de>
Message-ID: <000001c56b74$c6c5b030$6400a8c0@ColbyM6805>

AFAIK there isn't any such thing.  If you want to do that you need to open a
file for input, another for writing, then read the first file, writing back
to the second file and DON'T write the first line.

John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com 

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Sent: Tuesday, June 07, 2005 11:12 AM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [AccessD] deleting first line of a text file?


hallo,

how do I delete the first line of a text file (whats the command)?

or in other words

Function DeleteFirstLine(strFile As String)
    Dim varFile As Variant
    
    varFile = FreeFile
    Open strFile For Input As #varFile (is open For  Input correct?)
    
   what do I put in here??????????


End Function

TIA :-)
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From bheid at appdevgrp.com  Tue Jun  7 10:32:32 2005
From: bheid at appdevgrp.com (Bobby Heid)
Date: Tue, 7 Jun 2005 11:32:32 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] deleting first line of a text file?
In-Reply-To: <916187228923D311A6FE00A0CC3FAA30BDC6E4@ADGSERVER>
Message-ID: <916187228923D311A6FE00A0CC3FAA30ABEBFD@ADGSERVER>

Unless there's some sort of function that I do not know of, you need to:

1) open output file
2) open input file
3) read line of input file
4) read line of input file
5) write input line to output file
6) if not eof, goto #4.
7) close input file
8) close output file
9) delete input file
10) rename output file with the name of the old input file.

Bobby


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[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Garraway, Alun
Sent: Tuesday, June 07, 2005 11:12 AM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [AccessD] deleting first line of a text file?


hallo,

how do I delete the first line of a text file (whats the command)?

or in other words

Function DeleteFirstLine(strFile As String)
    Dim varFile As Variant
    
    varFile = FreeFile
    Open strFile For Input As #varFile (is open For  Input correct?)
    
   what do I put in here??????????


End Function

TIA :-)
alun



From cfoust at infostatsystems.com  Tue Jun  7 10:34:06 2005
From: cfoust at infostatsystems.com (Charlotte Foust)
Date: Tue, 7 Jun 2005 08:34:06 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Replication Manager
Message-ID: <E61FC1D4B1918244905B113C680BEA86873A78@infoserver01.infostat.local>

No, it's on the tools menu.  I just don't have replication installed on
this machine, so all I see is the grayed out item on the tools menu.

Charlotte Foust


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From: Barbara Ryan [mailto:BarbaraRyan at cox.net] 
Sent: Tuesday, June 07, 2005 5:35 AM
To: Access List
Subject: [AccessD] Replication Manager


Where I can I find Replication Manager for Access 2002?  Is it a
separate interface from the Replication option under Tools in Access
2002?  I can't seem to locate it on the Office XP Pro installation CD.

Thanks,
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From Alun.Garraway at otto.de  Tue Jun  7 10:39:15 2005
From: Alun.Garraway at otto.de (Garraway, Alun)
Date: Tue, 7 Jun 2005 17:39:15 +0200
Subject: [AccessD] deleting first line of a text file?
Message-ID: <D096EDDAA3939B45BEAF0F506801709A017276D6@ntovmail03.ov.otto.de>

AHHHH, got it :-)

thanks John & Bobby

all the best
alun

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Sent: Tuesday, June 07, 2005 5:23 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] deleting first line of a text file?


AFAIK there isn't any such thing.  If you want to do that you need to open a
file for input, another for writing, then read the first file, writing back
to the second file and DON'T write the first line.

John W. Colby
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[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Garraway, Alun
Sent: Tuesday, June 07, 2005 11:12 AM
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Subject: [AccessD] deleting first line of a text file?


hallo,

how do I delete the first line of a text file (whats the command)?

or in other words

Function DeleteFirstLine(strFile As String)
    Dim varFile As Variant
    
    varFile = FreeFile
    Open strFile For Input As #varFile (is open For  Input correct?)
    
   what do I put in here??????????


End Function

TIA :-)
alun
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From MarkBoyd at McBeeAssociates.com  Tue Jun  7 10:49:30 2005
From: MarkBoyd at McBeeAssociates.com (Mark Boyd)
Date: Tue, 7 Jun 2005 11:49:30 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Dates From Previous Month
Message-ID: <974F830FE464C14E8652F95E24DA663C043FB6@mail03.Mcbassoc.com>

I'm looking for a way to get the 1st and last dates from the previous
month.  I'm working on an invoicing app, and need to determine the
previous months date range.  Is there a function, or use of the Format
statement that will give me this info?
 
Thanks,
Mark Boyd
I/S Supervisor
McBee Associates, Inc.
 
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From DWUTKA at marlow.com  Tue Jun  7 10:58:15 2005
From: DWUTKA at marlow.com (DWUTKA at marlow.com)
Date: Tue, 7 Jun 2005 10:58:15 -0500 
Subject: [AccessD] Dates From Previous Month
Message-ID: <123701F54509D9119A4F00D0B747349016D669@main2.marlow.com>

1st Previous month=DateSerial(Year(date),Month(date)-1,1)
Last Previous month=DateSerial(Year(date),month(date),0)

Drew
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Subject: [AccessD] Dates From Previous Month


I'm looking for a way to get the 1st and last dates from the previous
month.  I'm working on an invoicing app, and need to determine the
previous months date range.  Is there a function, or use of the Format
statement that will give me this info?
 
Thanks,
Mark Boyd
I/S Supervisor
McBee Associates, Inc.
 
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From jimdettman at earthlink.net  Tue Jun  7 11:05:46 2005
From: jimdettman at earthlink.net (Jim Dettman)
Date: Tue, 7 Jun 2005 12:05:46 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Replication Manager
In-Reply-To: <003701c56b5d$5bd5dc80$0a00a8c0@cx470148a>
Message-ID: <NDEALJOEGMMPCDKIFGNFIEIEDFAA.jimdettman@earthlink.net>


<<I can't seem to locate it on the Office XP Pro installation CD.>>

  It's only in the developers edition.

Jim.

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Sent: Tuesday, June 07, 2005 8:35 AM
To: Access List
Subject: [AccessD] Replication Manager


Where I can I find Replication Manager for Access 2002?  Is it a separate
interface from the Replication option under Tools in Access 2002?  I can't
seem to locate it on the Office XP Pro installation CD.

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From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com  Tue Jun  7 11:05:54 2005
From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (John W. Colby)
Date: Tue, 7 Jun 2005 12:05:54 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Dates From Previous Month
In-Reply-To: <974F830FE464C14E8652F95E24DA663C043FB6@mail03.Mcbassoc.com>
Message-ID: <000101c56b7a$cbe34ae0$6400a8c0@ColbyM6805>

Private Function dateStartRange(intRangeOption As Integer) As Date
On Error GoTo Err_dateStartRange
'Julie Schwalm, Backroads Data, 1999
'Input: interger value of option group containing standard date ranges,
'such as Current Month, Year-to-Date, Last Quarter, etc.  Values equal:
'   1 = Include all Dates
'   2 = Current Month
'   3 = Current Quarter
'   4 = Current Year
'   5 = Month-to-Date
'   6 = Quarter-to-Date
'   7 = Year-to-Date
'   8 = Last Month
'   9 = Last Quarter
'  10 = Last Year
'  11 = Last 12 months
'  12 = Custom Date
'OUTPUT: Date to be placed in unbound text box, representing the beginning
'of the date range for the selected report.
    Dim dateResult As Date
    
    Select Case intRangeOption
        Case 1  'Include all Dates
            Let dateResult = #1/1/1900#
        Case 2, 5   'Current Month
            Let dateResult = DateSerial(Year(Date), Month(Date), 1)
        Case 3, 6
            Let dateResult = DateSerial(Year(Date), Int((Month(Date) - 1) /
3) * 3 + 1, 1)
        Case 4, 7
            Let dateResult = DateSerial(Year(Date), 1, 1)
        Case 8
            Let dateResult = DateSerial(Year(Date), Month(Date) - 1, 1)
        Case 9
            Let dateResult = DateSerial(Year(Date), Int((Month(Date) - 1) /
3) * 3 + 1 - 3, 1)
        Case 10
            Let dateResult = DateSerial(Year(Date) - 1, 1, 1)
        Case 11
            Let dateResult = DateAdd("yyyy", -1, Date) + 1
    End Select
    
    dateStartRange = Format(dateResult, "mm\/dd\/yyyy")
    
Exit_dateStartRange:
Exit Function
Err_dateStartRange:
    Select Case Err
    Case 0      '.insert Errors you wish to ignore here
        Resume Next
    Case Else   '.All other errors will trap
        Beep
        MsgBox Err.Description, , "Error in Function
basDateFunctions.dateStartRange"
        Resume Exit_dateStartRange
    End Select
    Resume 0    '.FOR TROUBLESHOOTING
End Function
Private Function dateEndRange(intRangeOption As Integer) As Date
On Error GoTo Err_dateEndRange
'Julie Schwalm, Backroads Data, 1999
'Input: interger value of option group containing standard date ranges,
'such as Current Month, Year-to-Date, Last Quarter, etc.  Values equal:
'   1 = Include all Dates
'   2 = Current Month
'   3 = Current Quarter
'   4 = Current Year
'   5 = Month-to-Date
'   6 = Quarter-to-Date
'   7 = Year-to-Date
'   8 = Last Month
'   9 = Last Quarter
'  10 = Last Year
'  11 = Last 12 months
'  12 = Custom Date
'OUTPUT: Date to be placed in unbound text box, representing the end
'of the date range for the selected report.
    Dim dateResult As Date
    Dim strDate As Date
    
    Select Case intRangeOption
        Case 1
            Let dateResult = #1/1/2115#
        Case 2
            Let dateResult = DateSerial(Year(Date), Month(Date) + 1, 0)
        Case 3
            Let dateResult = DateSerial(Year(Date), Int((Month(Date) - 1) /
3) * 3 + 4, 0)
        Case 4
            Let dateResult = DateSerial(Year(Date), 12, 31)
        Case 5, 6, 7, 11
            Let dateResult = Date
        Case 8
            Let dateResult = DateSerial(Year(Date), Month(Date), 0)
        Case 9
            Let dateResult = DateSerial(Year(Date), Int((Month(Date) - 1) /
3) * 3 + 4 - 3, 0)
        Case 10
'            Let dateResult = DateAdd("yyyy", -1, Date) + 1
            Let dateResult = DateSerial(Year(Date) - 1, 12, 31)
    End Select
    
    dateEndRange = Format(dateResult, "mm\/dd\/yyyy")
    
Exit_dateEndRange:
Exit Function
Err_dateEndRange:
    Select Case Err
    Case 0      '.insert Errors you wish to ignore here
        Resume Next
    Case Else   '.All other errors will trap
        Beep
        MsgBox Err.Description, , "Error in Function
basDateFunctions.dateEndRange"
        Resume Exit_dateEndRange
    End Select
    Resume 0    '.FOR TROUBLESHOOTING
End Function

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[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Mark Boyd
Sent: Tuesday, June 07, 2005 11:49 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: [AccessD] Dates From Previous Month


I'm looking for a way to get the 1st and last dates from the previous month.
I'm working on an invoicing app, and need to determine the previous months
date range.  Is there a function, or use of the Format statement that will
give me this info?
 
Thanks,
Mark Boyd
I/S Supervisor
McBee Associates, Inc.
 
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From MarkBoyd at McBeeAssociates.com  Tue Jun  7 11:15:23 2005
From: MarkBoyd at McBeeAssociates.com (Mark Boyd)
Date: Tue, 7 Jun 2005 12:15:23 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Dates From Previous Month
Message-ID: <974F830FE464C14E8652F95E24DA663C043FB7@mail03.Mcbassoc.com>

Perfect.  Thanks Drew. 

Mark Boyd
I/S Supervisor
McBee Associates, Inc.


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Subject: RE: [AccessD] Dates From Previous Month

1st Previous month=DateSerial(Year(date),Month(date)-1,1)
Last Previous month=DateSerial(Year(date),month(date),0)

Drew
-----Original Message-----
From: Mark Boyd [mailto:MarkBoyd at mcbeeassociates.com]
Sent: Tuesday, June 07, 2005 10:50 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: [AccessD] Dates From Previous Month


I'm looking for a way to get the 1st and last dates from the previous
month.  I'm working on an invoicing app, and need to determine the
previous months date range.  Is there a function, or use of the Format
statement that will give me this info?
 
Thanks,
Mark Boyd
I/S Supervisor
McBee Associates, Inc.
 
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From reuben at gfconsultants.com  Tue Jun  7 11:16:56 2005
From: reuben at gfconsultants.com (Reuben Cummings)
Date: Tue, 7 Jun 2005 11:16:56 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Dates From Previous Month
In-Reply-To: <974F830FE464C14E8652F95E24DA663C043FB6@mail03.Mcbassoc.com>
Message-ID: <JKEJKMLAODCACEAIJLPAAECMDCAA.reuben@gfconsultants.com>

1st of Previous Month = dateserial(year(date()),month(date())-1,1)

Last of previous month = dateadd("d",-1,dateserial(year(date()),
month(date()),1))

Reuben Cummings
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phone: 812.523.1017
email: reuben at gfconsultants.com


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[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Mark Boyd
Sent: Tuesday, June 07, 2005 10:50 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: [AccessD] Dates From Previous Month


I'm looking for a way to get the 1st and last dates from the previous
month.  I'm working on an invoicing app, and need to determine the
previous months date range.  Is there a function, or use of the Format
statement that will give me this info?

Thanks,
Mark Boyd
I/S Supervisor
McBee Associates, Inc.

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From reuben at gfconsultants.com  Tue Jun  7 11:20:02 2005
From: reuben at gfconsultants.com (Reuben Cummings)
Date: Tue, 7 Jun 2005 11:20:02 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Dates From Previous Month
In-Reply-To: <123701F54509D9119A4F00D0B747349016D669@main2.marlow.com>
Message-ID: <JKEJKMLAODCACEAIJLPAIECMDCAA.reuben@gfconsultants.com>

Drew, does that mean the 6-0-05 = 5-31-05?

I learned something today.  Thanks.

Reuben Cummings
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Subject: RE: [AccessD] Dates From Previous Month


1st Previous month=DateSerial(Year(date),Month(date)-1,1)
Last Previous month=DateSerial(Year(date),month(date),0)

Drew
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From: Mark Boyd [mailto:MarkBoyd at mcbeeassociates.com]
Sent: Tuesday, June 07, 2005 10:50 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: [AccessD] Dates From Previous Month


I'm looking for a way to get the 1st and last dates from the previous
month.  I'm working on an invoicing app, and need to determine the
previous months date range.  Is there a function, or use of the Format
statement that will give me this info?

Thanks,
Mark Boyd
I/S Supervisor
McBee Associates, Inc.

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From martyconnelly at shaw.ca  Tue Jun  7 11:24:41 2005
From: martyconnelly at shaw.ca (MartyConnelly)
Date: Tue, 07 Jun 2005 09:24:41 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Replication Manager
References: <003701c56b5d$5bd5dc80$0a00a8c0@cx470148a>
Message-ID: <42A5CA49.3070604@shaw.ca>

RepMan 4.0  is on the Office XP Developers Edition, not the Pro Edition,
 funnily enough there is no RepMan for 2003.
I don't know what you do here use VB.Net and JRO or old version of 
RepMan with Access 2003

Documentation within MS-Access 2003 states that this tool is still 
required to setup Internet replicated Access databases.
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;828089

 so, unless you have that RepMan from XP
.... you need to write your own using JRO or use a tool like TSI 
Synchronizer
http://www.trigeminal.com/repl?ication/synch.asp?1033

Note that this is not really true, either -- the TSI Synchronizer depends
upon you having the Jet Synchronizer (which comes with Replication 
Manager).

You do not need Replication Manager to use all forms of Jet replication. 
Replication
Manager is a tool for implementing certain advanced replication
functionalities such as synchronizer configuration for indirect or internet
replication or for changing the the retention period of a replication set.
Also, you do not need to have a copy of Replication Manager on every
computer (and probably shouldn't) since it is only an administrators tool.
Anything that can be done with Replication manager can also be accomplished
using DAO or JRO code

Jet 8 SP has a seperate update for replication

http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?kbid=321076

This shows installation procedures for RepMan

Internet Synchronization with the Microsoft Jet Database Engine: A 
Technical Overview
http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/default.asp?url=/library/en-us/dnacc2k/html/intrjet4.asp

Make sure you have read the replication faq and understand indirect and 
direct synchronization

http://support.microsoft.com/kb/q282977/

Here's some DAO code to illustrate a basic synchronization process of BE 
over a Lan...
'Courtesy Lambert Heenan
Private Sub btnUpdateMaster_Click()
Dim msg As String
Dim sReplicaDb As Variant
Dim sMainStore As String
Dim db As Database

    On Error GoTo btnUpdateMaster_err
    'First get the path to the replica file we will synch. with.
    msg = "This procedure will update the MASTER database with one or more
replica databases.@"
    msg = msg & "Do you with to continue?@"
    If MsgBox(msg, vbYesNo Or vbQuestion, "Synchronize Master Database") =
vbYes Then

        sReplicaDb = sDataToSynchFrom() '

' sDataToSynchFrom() is a function that returns the full path to an MDB file

        If sReplicaDb & "" = ""  Then Exit Sub
        sMainStore = GetAttachedDbName(GetFirstAttachedtable)

' GetAttachedDbName() is a function that returns the full path to the back
end database
' given the name of one of the linked tables

        ' sanity check
        If sMainStore = sReplicaDb Then
            MsgBox "Cannot synchronize your main data file with
itself. at Please select the correct replica data file to synchronize with.@",
, "Invalid data file selected"
            Exit Sub
        End If
        DoCmd.Hourglass True
' here is where the synchronization takes place
        Set db = OpenDatabase(sMainStore)
' this does a one-way synchronizatin - just importing changes in the data.
' you can also do two way using the constant "dbRepImpExpChanges"
        db.Synchronize sReplicaDb, dbRepImportChanges
        RenameSynchedFile CStr(sReplicaDb)
        DoCmd.Hourglass False
        MsgBox "Synchronization completed", , "Synchronize Master Database"
    End If
btnUpdateMaster_Click_Exit:
    Set db = Nothing
    Exit Sub
btnUpdateMaster_err:
    DoCmd.Hourglass False
' put your favorite error handler here
    MsgBox "Error synchronizing with " & sReplicaDb & "@" & Err.Description
& "@Error number " & Err.Number
    Resume btnUpdateMaster_Click_Exit
End Sub


Barbara Ryan wrote:

>Where I can I find Replication Manager for Access 2002?  Is it a separate interface from the Replication option under Tools in Access 2002?  I can't seem to locate it on the Office XP Pro installation CD.
>
>Thanks,
>Barb Ryan
>  
>

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From martyconnelly at shaw.ca  Tue Jun  7 11:41:09 2005
From: martyconnelly at shaw.ca (MartyConnelly)
Date: Tue, 07 Jun 2005 09:41:09 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Insert Access Info Into Web page
References: <JIEKIIMEGLDLMJDHKMOLKELPCEAA.relations@rescom.cc>
Message-ID: <42A5CE25.1030709@shaw.ca>


Here are a few good ASP sites:
o ASP101 Samples - http://www.asp101.com/samples
o W3Schools ASP Tutorial - http://www.w3schools.com/asp
o Microsoft VBScript Language Reference -
http://msdn.microsoft.com/scri?pting/default.htm?/scripting/V?BScript/d...

There are several 100 dollar asp IIS Access solutions like

http://www.access2asp.com/

Or for a "quick and dirty" generic ASP open source solution to putting
databases on the Web (often works well for the admin area of a Web site)
that just requires setting up a configuration page for each table or
query and uploading the database to the Web as long as there is an
autonumber field in each table (and you'll probably also separately want
to create login capabilities), perhaps try something like this:
GenericDB by Eli Robillard. It has been around for 7 years
and is used in a lot of university labs.
http://www.genericdb.com and then click on the Tips link to see an
example


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Res-Com Environmental wrote:

>Dear List:
>
>Is there a way that Access information (such as names and addresses) can be
>inserted into a website's form fields? We are trying to use a businesses
>website that doesn't offer special connections so we have to manually enter
>information from our database.
>
>Adam
>ResCom
>
>
>  
>

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From iggy at nanaimo.ark.com  Tue Jun  7 12:19:36 2005
From: iggy at nanaimo.ark.com (Tony Septav)
Date: Tue, 07 Jun 2005 10:19:36 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Converting Access97 app to 2000
Message-ID: <42A5D728.4080206@nanaimo.ark.com>

Hey All

I have converted my first Access97 application to Access2000. Everything 
seems to be working fine.  I have not as yet gone through and changed my 
declarations to DAO.Recordset, DAO.Database, etc..  Are there any other 
things I should be aware of.?

And I know some of you are saying "Geez about time".
I am planning on purchasing Access2003, but one step at a time, it is 
hard to teach an old dog new tricks.


From DWUTKA at marlow.com  Tue Jun  7 12:13:00 2005
From: DWUTKA at marlow.com (DWUTKA at marlow.com)
Date: Tue, 7 Jun 2005 12:13:00 -0500 
Subject: [AccessD] Dates From Previous Month
Message-ID: <123701F54509D9119A4F00D0B747349016D66B@main2.marlow.com>

No problem, glad to help.

Drew

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From: Mark Boyd [mailto:MarkBoyd at mcbeeassociates.com]
Sent: Tuesday, June 07, 2005 11:15 AM
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Perfect.  Thanks Drew. 

Mark Boyd
I/S Supervisor
McBee Associates, Inc.


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Subject: RE: [AccessD] Dates From Previous Month

1st Previous month=DateSerial(Year(date),Month(date)-1,1)
Last Previous month=DateSerial(Year(date),month(date),0)

Drew
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Subject: [AccessD] Dates From Previous Month


I'm looking for a way to get the 1st and last dates from the previous
month.  I'm working on an invoicing app, and need to determine the
previous months date range.  Is there a function, or use of the Format
statement that will give me this info?
 
Thanks,
Mark Boyd
I/S Supervisor
McBee Associates, Inc.
 
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From DWUTKA at marlow.com  Tue Jun  7 12:13:27 2005
From: DWUTKA at marlow.com (DWUTKA at marlow.com)
Date: Tue, 7 Jun 2005 12:13:27 -0500 
Subject: [AccessD] Dates From Previous Month
Message-ID: <123701F54509D9119A4F00D0B747349016D66C@main2.marlow.com>

It does to that function....

Drew

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Drew, does that mean the 6-0-05 = 5-31-05?

I learned something today.  Thanks.

Reuben Cummings
GFC, LLC
phone: 812.523.1017
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1st Previous month=DateSerial(Year(date),Month(date)-1,1)
Last Previous month=DateSerial(Year(date),month(date),0)

Drew
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Subject: [AccessD] Dates From Previous Month


I'm looking for a way to get the 1st and last dates from the previous
month.  I'm working on an invoicing app, and need to determine the
previous months date range.  Is there a function, or use of the Format
statement that will give me this info?

Thanks,
Mark Boyd
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McBee Associates, Inc.

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From cfoust at infostatsystems.com  Tue Jun  7 12:22:04 2005
From: cfoust at infostatsystems.com (Charlotte Foust)
Date: Tue, 7 Jun 2005 10:22:04 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Replication Manager
Message-ID: <E61FC1D4B1918244905B113C680BEA86873A7B@infoserver01.infostat.local>

It may be in VSTO, along with the rest of the developer tools for
Access.

Charlotte Foust


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From: MartyConnelly [mailto:martyconnelly at shaw.ca] 
Sent: Tuesday, June 07, 2005 9:25 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Replication Manager


RepMan 4.0  is on the Office XP Developers Edition, not the Pro Edition,
funnily enough there is no RepMan for 2003. I don't know what you do
here use VB.Net and JRO or old version of 
RepMan with Access 2003

Documentation within MS-Access 2003 states that this tool is still 
required to setup Internet replicated Access databases.
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;828089

 so, unless you have that RepMan from XP
.... you need to write your own using JRO or use a tool like TSI 
Synchronizer http://www.trigeminal.com/repl-ication/synch.asp?1033

Note that this is not really true, either -- the TSI Synchronizer
depends upon you having the Jet Synchronizer (which comes with
Replication 
Manager).

You do not need Replication Manager to use all forms of Jet replication.

Replication
Manager is a tool for implementing certain advanced replication
functionalities such as synchronizer configuration for indirect or
internet replication or for changing the the retention period of a
replication set. Also, you do not need to have a copy of Replication
Manager on every computer (and probably shouldn't) since it is only an
administrators tool. Anything that can be done with Replication manager
can also be accomplished using DAO or JRO code

Jet 8 SP has a seperate update for replication

http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?kbid=321076

This shows installation procedures for RepMan

Internet Synchronization with the Microsoft Jet Database Engine: A 
Technical Overview
http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/default.asp?url=/library/en-us/dnacc2k
/html/intrjet4.asp

Make sure you have read the replication faq and understand indirect and 
direct synchronization

http://support.microsoft.com/kb/q282977/

Here's some DAO code to illustrate a basic synchronization process of BE

over a Lan...
'Courtesy Lambert Heenan
Private Sub btnUpdateMaster_Click()
Dim msg As String
Dim sReplicaDb As Variant
Dim sMainStore As String
Dim db As Database

    On Error GoTo btnUpdateMaster_err
    'First get the path to the replica file we will synch. with.
    msg = "This procedure will update the MASTER database with one or
more replica databases.@"
    msg = msg & "Do you with to continue?@"
    If MsgBox(msg, vbYesNo Or vbQuestion, "Synchronize Master Database")
= vbYes Then

        sReplicaDb = sDataToSynchFrom() '

' sDataToSynchFrom() is a function that returns the full path to an MDB
file

        If sReplicaDb & "" = ""  Then Exit Sub
        sMainStore = GetAttachedDbName(GetFirstAttachedtable)

' GetAttachedDbName() is a function that returns the full path to the
back end database ' given the name of one of the linked tables

        ' sanity check
        If sMainStore = sReplicaDb Then
            MsgBox "Cannot synchronize your main data file with
itself. at Please select the correct replica data file to synchronize
with.@", , "Invalid data file selected"
            Exit Sub
        End If
        DoCmd.Hourglass True
' here is where the synchronization takes place
        Set db = OpenDatabase(sMainStore)
' this does a one-way synchronizatin - just importing changes in the
data. ' you can also do two way using the constant "dbRepImpExpChanges"
        db.Synchronize sReplicaDb, dbRepImportChanges
        RenameSynchedFile CStr(sReplicaDb)
        DoCmd.Hourglass False
        MsgBox "Synchronization completed", , "Synchronize Master
Database"
    End If
btnUpdateMaster_Click_Exit:
    Set db = Nothing
    Exit Sub
btnUpdateMaster_err:
    DoCmd.Hourglass False
' put your favorite error handler here
    MsgBox "Error synchronizing with " & sReplicaDb & "@" &
Err.Description & "@Error number " & Err.Number
    Resume btnUpdateMaster_Click_Exit
End Sub


Barbara Ryan wrote:

>Where I can I find Replication Manager for Access 2002?  Is it a 
>separate interface from the Replication option under Tools in Access 
>2002?  I can't seem to locate it on the Office XP Pro installation CD.
>
>Thanks,
>Barb Ryan
>  
>

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From cfoust at infostatsystems.com  Tue Jun  7 12:28:29 2005
From: cfoust at infostatsystems.com (Charlotte Foust)
Date: Tue, 7 Jun 2005 10:28:29 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Converting Access97 app to 2000
Message-ID: <E61FC1D4B1918244905B113C680BEA8689A34C@infoserver01.infostat.local>

Several things.  If you ever played with pipe concatenation (if you
don't know what it is, you haven't), you'll have to change it to
standard concatenation because 2000 and higher don't interpret it
properly.  If you use parameter queries that reference forms, you'll
have to go into the queries and make sure the query parameters use
proper referencing like [forms]![MyForm]![MyControl].  If any of the
brackets around any of the sections are missing, 2000 and later will put
brackets around the whole thing, like [forms!MyForm![MyControl]], which
breaks the query.  Using @ in messagebox prompts to bold parts of the
text no longer works in 2000+, so you'll have to deal with that if you
used it.

If you used any common controls (calendar controls, datetime picker,
OpenFile dialog, etc.) you'll need to make sure the references point to
the VB6 version, becase the VB5 versions don't work in 2000+.

Charlotte Foust


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From: Tony Septav [mailto:iggy at nanaimo.ark.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, June 07, 2005 10:20 AM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [AccessD] Converting Access97 app to 2000


Hey All

I have converted my first Access97 application to Access2000. Everything

seems to be working fine.  I have not as yet gone through and changed my

declarations to DAO.Recordset, DAO.Database, etc..  Are there any other 
things I should be aware of.?

And I know some of you are saying "Geez about time".
I am planning on purchasing Access2003, but one step at a time, it is 
hard to teach an old dog new tricks.
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From BarbaraRyan at cox.net  Tue Jun  7 12:45:32 2005
From: BarbaraRyan at cox.net (Barbara Ryan)
Date: Tue, 7 Jun 2005 13:45:32 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Replication Manager
References: <003701c56b5d$5bd5dc80$0a00a8c0@cx470148a>
	<42A5CA49.3070604@shaw.ca>
Message-ID: <00af01c56b88$b3f79a40$0a00a8c0@cx470148a>

Thanks, Marty.....I REALLY appreciate all this information.  I'm sure it
took a bit of time to pull it all together....Barb


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Sent: Tuesday, June 07, 2005 12:24 PM
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Replication Manager


> RepMan 4.0  is on the Office XP Developers Edition, not the Pro Edition,
>  funnily enough there is no RepMan for 2003.
> I don't know what you do here use VB.Net and JRO or old version of
> RepMan with Access 2003
>
> Documentation within MS-Access 2003 states that this tool is still
> required to setup Internet replicated Access databases.
> http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;828089
>
>  so, unless you have that RepMan from XP
> .... you need to write your own using JRO or use a tool like TSI
> Synchronizer
> http://www.trigeminal.com/repl?ication/synch.asp?1033
>
> Note that this is not really true, either -- the TSI Synchronizer depends
> upon you having the Jet Synchronizer (which comes with Replication
> Manager).
>
> You do not need Replication Manager to use all forms of Jet replication.
> Replication
> Manager is a tool for implementing certain advanced replication
> functionalities such as synchronizer configuration for indirect or
internet
> replication or for changing the the retention period of a replication set.
> Also, you do not need to have a copy of Replication Manager on every
> computer (and probably shouldn't) since it is only an administrators tool.
> Anything that can be done with Replication manager can also be
accomplished
> using DAO or JRO code
>
> Jet 8 SP has a seperate update for replication
>
> http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?kbid=321076
>
> This shows installation procedures for RepMan
>
> Internet Synchronization with the Microsoft Jet Database Engine: A
> Technical Overview
>
http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/default.asp?url=/library/en-us/dnacc2k/html/intrjet4.asp
>
> Make sure you have read the replication faq and understand indirect and
> direct synchronization
>
> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/q282977/
>
> Here's some DAO code to illustrate a basic synchronization process of BE
> over a Lan...
> 'Courtesy Lambert Heenan
> Private Sub btnUpdateMaster_Click()
> Dim msg As String
> Dim sReplicaDb As Variant
> Dim sMainStore As String
> Dim db As Database
>
>     On Error GoTo btnUpdateMaster_err
>     'First get the path to the replica file we will synch. with.
>     msg = "This procedure will update the MASTER database with one or more
> replica databases.@"
>     msg = msg & "Do you with to continue?@"
>     If MsgBox(msg, vbYesNo Or vbQuestion, "Synchronize Master Database") =
> vbYes Then
>
>         sReplicaDb = sDataToSynchFrom() '
>
> ' sDataToSynchFrom() is a function that returns the full path to an MDB
file
>
>         If sReplicaDb & "" = ""  Then Exit Sub
>         sMainStore = GetAttachedDbName(GetFirstAttachedtable)
>
> ' GetAttachedDbName() is a function that returns the full path to the back
> end database
> ' given the name of one of the linked tables
>
>         ' sanity check
>         If sMainStore = sReplicaDb Then
>             MsgBox "Cannot synchronize your main data file with
> itself. at Please select the correct replica data file to synchronize
with.@",
> , "Invalid data file selected"
>             Exit Sub
>         End If
>         DoCmd.Hourglass True
> ' here is where the synchronization takes place
>         Set db = OpenDatabase(sMainStore)
> ' this does a one-way synchronizatin - just importing changes in the data.
> ' you can also do two way using the constant "dbRepImpExpChanges"
>         db.Synchronize sReplicaDb, dbRepImportChanges
>         RenameSynchedFile CStr(sReplicaDb)
>         DoCmd.Hourglass False
>         MsgBox "Synchronization completed", , "Synchronize Master
Database"
>     End If
> btnUpdateMaster_Click_Exit:
>     Set db = Nothing
>     Exit Sub
> btnUpdateMaster_err:
>     DoCmd.Hourglass False
> ' put your favorite error handler here
>     MsgBox "Error synchronizing with " & sReplicaDb & "@" &
Err.Description
> & "@Error number " & Err.Number
>     Resume btnUpdateMaster_Click_Exit
> End Sub
>
>
> Barbara Ryan wrote:
>
> >Where I can I find Replication Manager for Access 2002?  Is it a separate
interface from the Replication option under Tools in Access 2002?  I can't
seem to locate it on the Office XP Pro installation CD.
> >
> >Thanks,
> >Barb Ryan
> >
> >
>
> -- 
> Marty Connelly
> Victoria, B.C.
> Canada
>
>
>
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From iggy at nanaimo.ark.com  Tue Jun  7 13:04:04 2005
From: iggy at nanaimo.ark.com (Tony Septav)
Date: Tue, 07 Jun 2005 11:04:04 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Converting Access97 app to 2000
Message-ID: <42A5E194.30200@nanaimo.ark.com>

Thanks Charlotte, much appreciated.


From accessd at shaw.ca  Tue Jun  7 13:15:20 2005
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Tue, 07 Jun 2005 11:15:20 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Insert Access Info Into Web page
In-Reply-To: <123701F54509D9119A4F00D0B747349016D667@main2.marlow.com>
Message-ID: <0IHQ004IK81HAL@l-daemon>

Hi Drew:

...That is supposing a superior knowledge in the use of both the MSHTML.TBL
library, Java-Script and write access to the web site. Check out:
http://www.cpcug.org/user/clemenzi/technical/Databases/WebAccess.html for a
simple sample of Access web access.

HTH
Jim

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Sent: Tuesday, June 07, 2005 7:48 AM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Insert Access Info Into Web page

You can open an instance of IE (then go to the site you want to 'dump' the
data too), and you can then interact with IE's document object to insert
your data.

Drew

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Sent: Monday, June 06, 2005 6:38 PM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [AccessD] Insert Access Info Into Web page


Dear List:

Is there a way that Access information (such as names and addresses) can be
inserted into a website's form fields? We are trying to use a businesses
website that doesn't offer special connections so we have to manually enter
information from our database.

Adam
ResCom


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From dwaters at usinternet.com  Tue Jun  7 15:05:15 2005
From: dwaters at usinternet.com (Dan Waters)
Date: Tue, 7 Jun 2005 13:05:15 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Creating SPC charts
In-Reply-To: <3354369.1118157678779.JavaMail.root@sniper17>
Message-ID: <000201c56b9c$398031a0$54018e0a@danwaters>

Hi Joe,

I am a Quality Engineer and have made many SPC charts!  But none in Access
yet.  You can use MS Graph to make these - pretty much anything you can
create in Excel you can make in MS Graph.  

All the best!

Dan Waters


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Subject: [AccessD] Creating SPC charts

Hello,
(Access 2000)

I need to create statistical process control charts. Also known as X-bar
charts, R-charts, ect.

I already have the data but I don't know how to generate these kinds of
charts in Access.
Has anyone created these kinds of charts before?

Thanks!
JR




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From Jim.Hale at FleetPride.com  Tue Jun  7 15:31:32 2005
From: Jim.Hale at FleetPride.com (Hale, Jim)
Date: Tue, 7 Jun 2005 15:31:32 -0500 
Subject: [AccessD] Excel Macro Automation from within Access
Message-ID: <6A6AA9DF57E4F046BDA1E273BDDB677233763F@corp-es01.fleetpride.com>

I believe MicoSith is vaguely ashamed of the Kill statement since it derives
from a simpler era when such barbaric practices were the norm.  Rumors
indicate, as part of their agreement with the European Union, the command
will be 
renamed TerminatedWithoutPrejudice. The damage may have already been done,
however, since certain large files have already requested amnesty and are
seeking refuge in certain unnamed hidden folders. :-)

Jim Hale

-----Original Message-----
From: Mark Boyd [mailto:MarkBoyd at mcbeeassociates.com]
Sent: Monday, June 06, 2005 1:56 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Excel Macro Automation from within Access


Great idea.  I wasn't aware of the Kill statement.  My plan was to shell
a batch file to delete it, but this is much easier.

Thanks again,
Mark Boyd
I/S Supervisor
McBee Associates, Inc.


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[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Hale, Jim
Sent: Monday, June 06, 2005 2:43 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Excel Macro Automation from within Access

I'm glad it worked for you. I was thinking that you might want to add a 
	Kill strpathname 'deletes original Excel sheet statement after
the new copy has been saved so you are left with only the new copy.

Jim Hale

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Sent: Monday, June 06, 2005 11:31 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Excel Macro Automation from within Access


Thanks Jim.  This is perfect!

Mark Boyd
I/S Supervisor
McBee Associates, Inc.


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Sent: Thursday, June 02, 2005 10:10 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Excel Macro Automation from within Access

I think the sequence you are looking for is similar to this:

Sub rpt_to_excel()
Dim appExcel As Excel.Application, strpathname As String Dim strpathnew
As String, strReport As String

strpathname = "C:\test.xls"
strpathnew = "C:\test2.xls"
strReport = "rptInvsummary"
DoCmd.OutputTo acOutputReport, strReport, acFormatXLS, strpathname

 Set appExcel = New Excel.Application
 
 'format your report
    With appExcel
        .Workbooks.Open strpathname, 0
        .Visible = True 'just to watch the sheet
        .Range("A1:G1").Select
        .Selection.Font.Bold = True
        .Selection.Font.Name = "Arial"
        .Selection.Font.Size = 12
        .ActiveWorkbook.SaveAs Filename:=strpathnew,FileFormat:=xlNormal
    End With
     appExcel.Quit
    Set appExcel = Nothing
End Sub

This opens the file you output and saves it as a current version
workbook under a new name. 

As you debug be aware of leaving orphan instances of Excel in memory.
You can tell if any exist by placing the following script in notepad and
running
it:

Dim objXL
	Dim strMessage
	
	On Error Resume Next
	
	'	Try to grab a running instance of
	'	Excel...
	Set objXL = GetObject(, "Excel.Application")
	
	'	What did we find?..
	If Not TypeName(objXL) = "Empty" Then
		strMessage = "Excel Running."
	Else
		strMessage = "Excel Not Running."
	End If
	
	'	Feedback to user...
	MsgBox strMessage, vbInformation, "Excel Status"
	
	'	Make the Excel instance visible 
	'	if we found one
	if strMessage = "Excel Running." then _
				objXL.Visible = true 

-----Original Message-----
From: Mark Boyd [mailto:MarkBoyd at mcbeeassociates.com]
Sent: Wednesday, June 01, 2005 5:21 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Excel Macro Automation from within Access


Thanks Jim, this is pointing me in the right direction.

The export process is as follows:
1. Export report to Excel
2. Format report w/ macro
3. Save formatting changes
4. Attach file to email message

When using the SaveAs method, I'm prompted to overwrite the existing
excel file (the one just formatted).  Am I missing something in regard
to the properties of the SaveAs method, that will allow me to save the
existing, formatted file?  If I select Yes to overwrite the existing
file, all of the macro formats are lost.


Mark Boyd
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From stuart at lexacorp.com.pg  Tue Jun  7 17:33:00 2005
From: stuart at lexacorp.com.pg (Stuart McLachlan)
Date: Wed, 08 Jun 2005 08:33:00 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] Dates From Previous Month
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On 7 Jun 2005 at 11:20, Reuben Cummings wrote:

> Drew, does that mean the 6-0-05 = 5-31-05?
> 
> I learned something today.  Thanks.
> 

As well a 0, try playing around with negative numbers in both the month and 
day parameters of DateSerial

It's often easier than using DateAdd :-)

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From DWUTKA at marlow.com  Tue Jun  7 19:18:13 2005
From: DWUTKA at marlow.com (DWUTKA at marlow.com)
Date: Tue, 7 Jun 2005 19:18:13 -0500 
Subject: [AccessD] Dates From Previous Month
Message-ID: <123701F54509D9119A4F00D0B747349016D678@main2.marlow.com>

I usually chuckle when I see DateAdd all over the place.  I find DateSerial
to be tremendously effective.  One of the more useful purposes is dealing
the 'international' dates.....DateSerial is universally Year, Month,
Day....so there is no need to worry about local settings, if you use it
properly. 

Not trying to bring up the internationally compliant thread... <grin>

Drew

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Sent: Tuesday, June 07, 2005 5:33 PM
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Subject: RE: [AccessD] Dates From Previous Month


On 7 Jun 2005 at 11:20, Reuben Cummings wrote:

> Drew, does that mean the 6-0-05 = 5-31-05?
> 
> I learned something today.  Thanks.
> 

As well a 0, try playing around with negative numbers in both the month and 
day parameters of DateSerial

It's often easier than using DateAdd :-)

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From chise at charter.net  Tue Jun  7 20:38:36 2005
From: chise at charter.net (Charles Hise)
Date: Tue, 7 Jun 2005 20:38:36 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] For Charles Hise - Fw: Returned mail: see transcript
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Sorry, try chise at parkplacecare.com

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Charles Hise:

I'm trying to send you the Sleep Advisor but your address seems to be hosed.

Do you have another one?

Rocky

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From JRojas at tnco-inc.com  Tue Jun  7 20:53:44 2005
From: JRojas at tnco-inc.com (Joe Rojas)
Date: Tue, 7 Jun 2005 21:53:44 -0400 
Subject: [AccessD] Creating SPC charts
Message-ID: <0CC84C9461AE6445AD5A602001C41C4B05A32B@mercury.tnco-inc.com>

Thanks Dan!

I was hoping you were going to say that. I wanted to try and keep this all
in Access.

When you say "MS Graph", does this mean the same thing as inserting a chart
in an access report by going to Insert -> Chart? Or is this something
different?

Thanks,
JR

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Sent: Tuesday, June 07, 2005 4:05 PM
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Subject: RE: [AccessD] Creating SPC charts

Hi Joe,

I am a Quality Engineer and have made many SPC charts!  But none in Access
yet.  You can use MS Graph to make these - pretty much anything you can
create in Excel you can make in MS Graph. 

All the best!

Dan Waters


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Subject: [AccessD] Creating SPC charts

Hello,
(Access 2000)

I need to create statistical process control charts. Also known as X-bar
charts, R-charts, ect.

I already have the data but I don't know how to generate these kinds of
charts in Access.
Has anyone created these kinds of charts before?

Thanks!
JR




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From accessd at shaw.ca  Tue Jun  7 20:55:21 2005
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Tue, 07 Jun 2005 18:55:21 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Excel Macro Automation from within Access
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Jin...very funny.

Jim

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[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Hale, Jim
Sent: Tuesday, June 07, 2005 1:32 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Excel Macro Automation from within Access

I believe MicoSith is vaguely ashamed of the Kill statement since it derives
from a simpler era when such barbaric practices were the norm.  Rumors
indicate, as part of their agreement with the European Union, the command
will be 
renamed TerminatedWithoutPrejudice. The damage may have already been done,
however, since certain large files have already requested amnesty and are
seeking refuge in certain unnamed hidden folders. :-)

Jim Hale

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Sent: Monday, June 06, 2005 1:56 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Excel Macro Automation from within Access


Great idea.  I wasn't aware of the Kill statement.  My plan was to shell
a batch file to delete it, but this is much easier.

Thanks again,
Mark Boyd
I/S Supervisor
McBee Associates, Inc.


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Sent: Monday, June 06, 2005 2:43 PM
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Subject: RE: [AccessD] Excel Macro Automation from within Access

I'm glad it worked for you. I was thinking that you might want to add a 
	Kill strpathname 'deletes original Excel sheet statement after
the new copy has been saved so you are left with only the new copy.

Jim Hale

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Subject: RE: [AccessD] Excel Macro Automation from within Access


Thanks Jim.  This is perfect!

Mark Boyd
I/S Supervisor
McBee Associates, Inc.


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[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Hale, Jim
Sent: Thursday, June 02, 2005 10:10 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Excel Macro Automation from within Access

I think the sequence you are looking for is similar to this:

Sub rpt_to_excel()
Dim appExcel As Excel.Application, strpathname As String Dim strpathnew
As String, strReport As String

strpathname = "C:\test.xls"
strpathnew = "C:\test2.xls"
strReport = "rptInvsummary"
DoCmd.OutputTo acOutputReport, strReport, acFormatXLS, strpathname

 Set appExcel = New Excel.Application
 
 'format your report
    With appExcel
        .Workbooks.Open strpathname, 0
        .Visible = True 'just to watch the sheet
        .Range("A1:G1").Select
        .Selection.Font.Bold = True
        .Selection.Font.Name = "Arial"
        .Selection.Font.Size = 12
        .ActiveWorkbook.SaveAs Filename:=strpathnew,FileFormat:=xlNormal
    End With
     appExcel.Quit
    Set appExcel = Nothing
End Sub

This opens the file you output and saves it as a current version
workbook under a new name. 

As you debug be aware of leaving orphan instances of Excel in memory.
You can tell if any exist by placing the following script in notepad and
running
it:

Dim objXL
	Dim strMessage
	
	On Error Resume Next
	
	'	Try to grab a running instance of
	'	Excel...
	Set objXL = GetObject(, "Excel.Application")
	
	'	What did we find?..
	If Not TypeName(objXL) = "Empty" Then
		strMessage = "Excel Running."
	Else
		strMessage = "Excel Not Running."
	End If
	
	'	Feedback to user...
	MsgBox strMessage, vbInformation, "Excel Status"
	
	'	Make the Excel instance visible 
	'	if we found one
	if strMessage = "Excel Running." then _
				objXL.Visible = true 

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From: Mark Boyd [mailto:MarkBoyd at mcbeeassociates.com]
Sent: Wednesday, June 01, 2005 5:21 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Excel Macro Automation from within Access


Thanks Jim, this is pointing me in the right direction.

The export process is as follows:
1. Export report to Excel
2. Format report w/ macro
3. Save formatting changes
4. Attach file to email message

When using the SaveAs method, I'm prompted to overwrite the existing
excel file (the one just formatted).  Am I missing something in regard
to the properties of the SaveAs method, that will allow me to save the
existing, formatted file?  If I select Yes to overwrite the existing
file, all of the macro formats are lost.


Mark Boyd
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From Bruce.Bruen at railcorp.nsw.gov.au  Tue Jun  7 21:51:25 2005
From: Bruce.Bruen at railcorp.nsw.gov.au (Bruen, Bruce)
Date: Wed, 8 Jun 2005 12:51:25 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] Access-based website "hit" analyser?
Message-ID: <F2BE8EAB3EA585418337B71BCE6F3BF304EBAF@msmet100.rail.nsw.gov.au>

Check out ClickTracks at www.clicktracks.com.au
Hth
bruce 

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Subject: [AccessD] Access-based website "hit" analyser?

Hello listers!

Has anyone got, or know where I can find an Access based "hit" analyser
for an Apache web server.

I'm looking for something to analyse the text log files that I get
e-mailed every 24hours. I could craft my own, but if there is an
existing app. that I could use as a basis...

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From viner at EUnet.yu  Wed Jun  8 01:12:55 2005
From: viner at EUnet.yu (Ervin Brindza)
Date: Wed, 8 Jun 2005 08:12:55 +0200
Subject: [AccessD] Insert Access Info Into Web page
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Message-ID: <013801c56bf1$23408b10$0100a8c0@RazvojErvin>

Adam,
try to find an article in the Database Journal:
Convert Access Tables Into ASP Web Pages by Danny Lesandrini
HTH,

    Ervin

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>
> Here are a few good ASP sites:
> o ASP101 Samples - http://www.asp101.com/samples
> o W3Schools ASP Tutorial - http://www.w3schools.com/asp
> o Microsoft VBScript Language Reference -
> http://msdn.microsoft.com/scri?pting/default.htm?/scripting/V?BScript/d...
>
> There are several 100 dollar asp IIS Access solutions like
>
> http://www.access2asp.com/
>
> Or for a "quick and dirty" generic ASP open source solution to putting
> databases on the Web (often works well for the admin area of a Web site)
> that just requires setting up a configuration page for each table or
> query and uploading the database to the Web as long as there is an
> autonumber field in each table (and you'll probably also separately want
> to create login capabilities), perhaps try something like this:
> GenericDB by Eli Robillard. It has been around for 7 years
> and is used in a lot of university labs.
> http://www.genericdb.com and then click on the Tips link to see an
> example
>
>
> Mail List at
> http://aspadvice.com/SignUp/list.aspx?l=63&c=11
>
> Res-Com Environmental wrote:
>
> >Dear List:
> >
> >Is there a way that Access information (such as names and addresses) can
be
> >inserted into a website's form fields? We are trying to use a businesses
> >website that doesn't offer special connections so we have to manually
enter
> >information from our database.
> >
> >Adam
> >ResCom
> >
> >
> >
> >
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From Chris.Foote at uk.thalesgroup.com  Wed Jun  8 05:44:44 2005
From: Chris.Foote at uk.thalesgroup.com (Foote, Chris)
Date: Wed, 8 Jun 2005 11:44:44 +0100 
Subject: [AccessD] Access-based website "hit" analyser?
Message-ID: <97CF276BD8C6D4119C4B00508BB18DE709E0C778@ntscxch1.int.rdel.co.uk>

Thanks for that Bruce!

My hosting company (http://www.dsvr.co.uk/) provides and supports Webalizer
(http://www.webalizer.com) . I've had problems setting-up Webalizer so was
looking for an Access alternative.

Thanks again for your reply!

Chris Foote - UK

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> From: Bruen, Bruce [mailto:Bruce.Bruen at railcorp.nsw.gov.au]
> Sent: Wednesday, June 08, 2005 3:51 AM
> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> Subject: RE: [AccessD] Access-based website "hit" analyser?
> 
> 
> Check out ClickTracks at www.clicktracks.com.au
> Hth
> bruce 
> 
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> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Chris Foote
> (Spike)
> Sent: Tuesday, 7 June 2005 10:44 PM
> To: AccessD at databaseadvisors.com
> Subject: [AccessD] Access-based website "hit" analyser?
> 
> Hello listers!
> 
> Has anyone got, or know where I can find an Access based 
> "hit" analyser
> for an Apache web server.
> 
> I'm looking for something to analyse the text log files that I get
> e-mailed every 24hours. I could craft my own, but if there is an
> existing app. that I could use as a basis...
> 
> Regards
> Chris Foote - UK
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From paul.hartland at fsmail.net  Wed Jun  8 06:55:49 2005
From: paul.hartland at fsmail.net (paul.hartland at fsmail.net)
Date: Wed,  8 Jun 2005 13:55:49 +0200 (CEST)
Subject: [AccessD] OT - Looping Through Controls on Visual Basic Form
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To all, 

I have a lot of text boxes, combo boxes and check boxes on a form and need them locked for certain users I tried the following code to loop through them and when txt, pv or chk is found to lock or disable the control but it doesn't work....

Dim intFields As Integer
    For intFields = 0 To frmClient.Controls.Count
        If (Left(frmClient.Controls(intFields).Name, 3) = "chk" Or Left(frmClient.Controls(intFields).Name, 3) = "txt") Then
            frmClient(frmClient.Controls(intFields).Name).Locked = True
        End If
        If (Left(frmClient.Controls(intFields).Name, 2) = "PV") Then
            frmClient(frmClient.Controls(intFields).Name).Enabled = False
        End If
    Next intFields

can anyone tell me what I am doing wrong cause I can't seem to see the wood for the tree's at the moment...

Thanks in advance for all your help...

Paul Hartland

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From RRANTHON at sentara.com  Wed Jun  8 07:02:45 2005
From: RRANTHON at sentara.com (Randall R Anthony)
Date: Wed, 08 Jun 2005 08:02:45 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] OT - Looping Through Controls on Visual Basic
	Form
Message-ID: <200506081202.j58C2ws07457@databaseadvisors.com>

Paul,
This is what I'm currently using to do just what you described.  I'm
sure it can be manipulated to search on specific control names, although
I have not done it because I don't need the specificity.

For Each cCtrl In frmFormName.Controls
            If TypeOf cCtrl Is TextBox Then
                cCtrl.Locked = True
            End If
            If TypeOf cCtrl Is ComboBox Then
                cCtrl.Locked = True
            End If
            If TypeOf cCtrl Is DBGrid Then
                cCtrl.AllowAddNew = False
                cCtrl.AllowDelete = False
                cCtrl.AllowUpdate = False
            End If
        Next


From ssharkins at bellsouth.net  Wed Jun  8 07:14:13 2005
From: ssharkins at bellsouth.net (Susan Harkins)
Date: Wed, 8 Jun 2005 08:14:13 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] OT - Looping Through Controls on Visual Basic Form
In-Reply-To: <13281180.1118231749723.JavaMail.www@wwinf3102>
Message-ID: <20050608121416.MKX25470.ibm57aec.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>

It worked for me -- almost. 

I had to qualify all the form references by adding Forms! -- and it worked.


Also, I think you need to add -1 to the count definition: 

 For intFields = 0 To frmClient.Controls.Count - 1

Susan H. 

To all, 

I have a lot of text boxes, combo boxes and check boxes on a form and need
them locked for certain users I tried the following code to loop through
them and when txt, pv or chk is found to lock or disable the control but it
doesn't work....

Dim intFields As Integer
    For intFields = 0 To frmClient.Controls.Count
        If (Left(frmClient.Controls(intFields).Name, 3) = "chk" Or
Left(frmClient.Controls(intFields).Name, 3) = "txt") Then
            frmClient(frmClient.Controls(intFields).Name).Locked = True
        End If
        If (Left(frmClient.Controls(intFields).Name, 2) = "PV") Then
            frmClient(frmClient.Controls(intFields).Name).Enabled = False
        End If
    Next intFields

can anyone tell me what I am doing wrong cause I can't seem to see the wood
for the tree's at the moment...

Thanks in advance for all your help...

Paul Hartland

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From bheygood at abestsystems.com  Wed Jun  8 08:35:15 2005
From: bheygood at abestsystems.com (Bob Heygood)
Date: Wed, 8 Jun 2005 06:35:15 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Scrape Word Part II
In-Reply-To: <6A6AA9DF57E4F046BDA1E273BDDB6772337511@corp-es01.fleetpride.com>
Message-ID: <AIEKKBIAKDJNAFGABNJKIEPICMAA.bheygood@abestsystems.com>

Hello to the list,

Well, my project is alive again. This time I have the luxury of being able
to create the Word document from which I need to cull the info. I still need
to have a Word table but I can create bookmarks or whatever within the table
in the document.
To recap I need to import 10 pieces of text from a Word document and store
them in a mdb table.
Jim Hale's code below worked really good except that we were pressed for
time and did not ever get it to work in all areas of the Word doc.
So my first question is how to search the Word doc to find the text,
bookmarks, fields, custom properties or ????


TIA,

Bob Heygood

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Hale, Jim
Sent: Monday, April 18, 2005 8:54 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Scrape Word


Whatever it takes to get the job done! Sorry I couldn't be more help.
Jim Hale

-----Original Message-----
From: Bob Heygood [mailto:bheygood at abestsystems.com]
Sent: Monday, April 18, 2005 10:09 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Scrape Word


Thanks Jim
I finally just ran the job as it took about 4 hours to process 256
documents.
it is a one time deal and the customer needed to have the results.

your help was fantastic.

bob



-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Hale, Jim
Sent: Friday, April 15, 2005 3:18 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Scrape Word


I'll look at it some more on Monday. You might examine the selection object
in the Word application. It has numerous properties and methods one or more
of which should do the trick.
Jim Hale

-----Original Message-----
From: Bob Heygood [mailto:bheygood at abestsystems.com]
Sent: Friday, April 15, 2005 4:52 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Scrape Word


yes in a table cell.
again your code is working super.
but only grabs the first word, sometimes there is more than one word in the
cell, and I would like to capture all of them.
if you have thought, I would welcome it.


again I tried to manipulate the code further but it acts very erratic when
in a table cell.

thanks for the great help.

bob


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Hale, Jim
Sent: Thursday, April 14, 2005 12:53 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Scrape Word


So the data you want (including the search string) is in a table cell? In
the code I sent you delete
   wd.Selection.Start = wd.Selection.End
   Call wd.Selection.EndOf(wdSentence, wdExtend)

and replace with
   wd.Selection.Next(Unit:=wdWord, Count:=1).Select

Or if the entire string is returned you can replace the search string with
an empty string "" using the following function:

Function ReplaceString(strTextIn As String, strFind As String, strReplace As
String, fCaseSensitive As Boolean) As String

  Dim strTmp As String
  Dim intPos As Integer
  Dim intCaseSensitive As Integer

  intCaseSensitive = IIf(fCaseSensitive, 2, 1)

  strTmp = strTextIn
  intPos = InStr(1, strTmp, strFind, intCaseSensitive)

  Do While intPos > 0
    strTmp = Left$(strTmp, intPos - 1) & strReplace & Mid$(strTmp, intPos +
Len(strFind))
    intPos = InStr(intPos + Len(strReplace), strTmp, strFind,
intCaseSensitive)
  Loop

  ReplaceString = strTmp

End Function

Jim Hale


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From paul.hartland at isharp.co.uk  Wed Jun  8 09:35:52 2005
From: paul.hartland at isharp.co.uk (Paul Hartland (ISHARP))
Date: Wed, 8 Jun 2005 15:35:52 +0100
Subject: [AccessD] OT - Looping Through Controls on Visual BasicForm
In-Reply-To: <200506081202.j58C2ws07457@databaseadvisors.com>
Message-ID: <!~!UENERkVCMDkAAQACAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAC4AAAAAAAAAclrM129q6km1GlSfRwF8CgEAFKerAD79REu7GTojEo2iDgAAAAddkgAAEAAAAA2KOUxQmiRCh0g+g9UHtgABAAAAAA==@isharp.co.uk>

Thanks ever so much, makes my life so much easier

Paul Hartland 

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Randall R Anthony
Sent: 08 June 2005 13:03
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: Re: [AccessD] OT - Looping Through Controls on Visual BasicForm

Paul,
This is what I'm currently using to do just what you described.  I'm sure it
can be manipulated to search on specific control names, although I have not
done it because I don't need the specificity.

For Each cCtrl In frmFormName.Controls
            If TypeOf cCtrl Is TextBox Then
                cCtrl.Locked = True
            End If
            If TypeOf cCtrl Is ComboBox Then
                cCtrl.Locked = True
            End If
            If TypeOf cCtrl Is DBGrid Then
                cCtrl.AllowAddNew = False
                cCtrl.AllowDelete = False
                cCtrl.AllowUpdate = False
            End If
        Next
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From RRANTHON at sentara.com  Wed Jun  8 09:45:20 2005
From: RRANTHON at sentara.com (Randall R Anthony)
Date: Wed, 08 Jun 2005 10:45:20 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] OT - Looping Through Controls on Visual
	BasicForm
Message-ID: <200506081445.j58EjTs14443@databaseadvisors.com>

Glad to be able to help.

>>> paul.hartland at isharp.co.uk 6/8/2005 10:35:52 AM >>>
Thanks ever so much, makes my life so much easier

Paul Hartland 

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com 
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Randall R
Anthony
Sent: 08 June 2005 13:03
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com 
Subject: Re: [AccessD] OT - Looping Through Controls on Visual
BasicForm

Paul,
This is what I'm currently using to do just what you described.  I'm
sure it
can be manipulated to search on specific control names, although I have
not
done it because I don't need the specificity.

For Each cCtrl In frmFormName.Controls
            If TypeOf cCtrl Is TextBox Then
                cCtrl.Locked = True
            End If
            If TypeOf cCtrl Is ComboBox Then
                cCtrl.Locked = True
            End If
            If TypeOf cCtrl Is DBGrid Then
                cCtrl.AllowAddNew = False
                cCtrl.AllowDelete = False
                cCtrl.AllowUpdate = False
            End If
        Next
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From darsant at gmail.com  Wed Jun  8 09:57:21 2005
From: darsant at gmail.com (Josh McFarlane)
Date: Wed, 8 Jun 2005 09:57:21 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] OT - Looping Through Controls on Visual Basic Form
In-Reply-To: <13281180.1118231749723.JavaMail.www@wwinf3102>
References: <13281180.1118231749723.JavaMail.www@wwinf3102>
Message-ID: <53c8e05a05060807575f007e47@mail.gmail.com>

On 6/8/05, paul.hartland at fsmail.net <paul.hartland at fsmail.net> wrote:
> To all,
> 
> I have a lot of text boxes, combo boxes and check boxes on a form and need them locked for certain users I tried the following code to loop through them and when txt, pv or chk is found to lock or disable the control but it doesn't work....
> 
> Dim intFields As Integer
>     For intFields = 0 To frmClient.Controls.Count
>         If (Left(frmClient.Controls(intFields).Name, 3) = "chk" Or Left(frmClient.Controls(intFields).Name, 3) = "txt") Then
>             frmClient(frmClient.Controls(intFields).Name).Locked = True
>         End If
>         If (Left(frmClient.Controls(intFields).Name, 2) = "PV") Then
>             frmClient(frmClient.Controls(intFields).Name).Enabled = False
>         End If
>     Next intFields
> 
> can anyone tell me what I am doing wrong cause I can't seem to see the wood for the tree's at the moment...
> 
> Thanks in advance for all your help...
> 
> Paul Hartland
Sorry I'm getting into this a little late.

I think you might want to take a look into the tag property for
controls. You label controls with any tags (or a number of tags) and
then search for controls based on that tag, and disable / enable
accordingly.

This really comes in handy when different sets of controls need to be
enabled / disabled for different states. Basic structure is a For Each
statement. If you're interested I can give you a code sample.

-- 
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"Peace cannot be kept by force. It can only be achieved by understanding."
-Albert Einstein


From paul.hartland at fsmail.net  Wed Jun  8 10:06:14 2005
From: paul.hartland at fsmail.net (paul.hartland at fsmail.net)
Date: Wed,  8 Jun 2005 17:06:14 +0200 (CEST)
Subject: [AccessD] OT - Looping Through Controls on Visual Basic Form
Message-ID: <2212784.1118243174470.JavaMail.www@wwinf3001>

Thanks but have already had one, I ended up using the For Each as you suggested...

Thanks for the help anyway...

Paul Hartland





Message date : Jun 08 2005, 04:02 PM
>From : "Josh McFarlane" 
To : "Access Developers discussion and problem solving" 
Copy to : 
Subject : Re: [AccessD] OT - Looping Through Controls on Visual Basic Form
On 6/8/05, paul.hartland at fsmail.net wrote:
> To all,
> 
> I have a lot of text boxes, combo boxes and check boxes on a form and need them locked for certain users I tried the following code to loop through them and when txt, pv or chk is found to lock or disable the control but it doesn't work....
> 
> Dim intFields As Integer
> For intFields = 0 To frmClient.Controls.Count
> If (Left(frmClient.Controls(intFields).Name, 3) = "chk" Or Left(frmClient.Controls(intFields).Name, 3) = "txt") Then
> frmClient(frmClient.Controls(intFields).Name).Locked = True
> End If
> If (Left(frmClient.Controls(intFields).Name, 2) = "PV") Then
> frmClient(frmClient.Controls(intFields).Name).Enabled = False
> End If
> Next intFields
> 
> can anyone tell me what I am doing wrong cause I can't seem to see the wood for the tree's at the moment...
> 
> Thanks in advance for all your help...
> 
> Paul Hartland
Sorry I'm getting into this a little late.

I think you might want to take a look into the tag property for
controls. You label controls with any tags (or a number of tags) and
then search for controls based on that tag, and disable / enable
accordingly.

This really comes in handy when different sets of controls need to be
enabled / disabled for different states. Basic structure is a For Each
statement. If you're interested I can give you a code sample.

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From Jim.Hale at FleetPride.com  Wed Jun  8 10:17:02 2005
From: Jim.Hale at FleetPride.com (Hale, Jim)
Date: Wed, 8 Jun 2005 10:17:02 -0500 
Subject: [AccessD] Scrape Word Part II
Message-ID: <6A6AA9DF57E4F046BDA1E273BDDB6772337644@corp-es01.fleetpride.com>

At the very bottom of this link Helen Feddema has some code that may help
you.
http://www.helenfeddema.com/CodeSamples.htm

Jim Hale

-----Original Message-----
From: Bob Heygood [mailto:bheygood at abestsystems.com]
Sent: Wednesday, June 08, 2005 8:35 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: [AccessD] Scrape Word Part II


Hello to the list,

Well, my project is alive again. This time I have the luxury of being able
to create the Word document from which I need to cull the info. I still need
to have a Word table but I can create bookmarks or whatever within the table
in the document.
To recap I need to import 10 pieces of text from a Word document and store
them in a mdb table.
Jim Hale's code below worked really good except that we were pressed for
time and did not ever get it to work in all areas of the Word doc.
So my first question is how to search the Word doc to find the text,
bookmarks, fields, custom properties or ????


TIA,

Bob Heygood

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Hale, Jim
Sent: Monday, April 18, 2005 8:54 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Scrape Word


Whatever it takes to get the job done! Sorry I couldn't be more help.
Jim Hale

-----Original Message-----
From: Bob Heygood [mailto:bheygood at abestsystems.com]
Sent: Monday, April 18, 2005 10:09 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Scrape Word


Thanks Jim
I finally just ran the job as it took about 4 hours to process 256
documents.
it is a one time deal and the customer needed to have the results.

your help was fantastic.

bob



-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Hale, Jim
Sent: Friday, April 15, 2005 3:18 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Scrape Word


I'll look at it some more on Monday. You might examine the selection object
in the Word application. It has numerous properties and methods one or more
of which should do the trick.
Jim Hale

-----Original Message-----
From: Bob Heygood [mailto:bheygood at abestsystems.com]
Sent: Friday, April 15, 2005 4:52 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Scrape Word


yes in a table cell.
again your code is working super.
but only grabs the first word, sometimes there is more than one word in the
cell, and I would like to capture all of them.
if you have thought, I would welcome it.


again I tried to manipulate the code further but it acts very erratic when
in a table cell.

thanks for the great help.

bob


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Hale, Jim
Sent: Thursday, April 14, 2005 12:53 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Scrape Word


So the data you want (including the search string) is in a table cell? In
the code I sent you delete
   wd.Selection.Start = wd.Selection.End
   Call wd.Selection.EndOf(wdSentence, wdExtend)

and replace with
   wd.Selection.Next(Unit:=wdWord, Count:=1).Select

Or if the entire string is returned you can replace the search string with
an empty string "" using the following function:

Function ReplaceString(strTextIn As String, strFind As String, strReplace As
String, fCaseSensitive As Boolean) As String

  Dim strTmp As String
  Dim intPos As Integer
  Dim intCaseSensitive As Integer

  intCaseSensitive = IIf(fCaseSensitive, 2, 1)

  strTmp = strTextIn
  intPos = InStr(1, strTmp, strFind, intCaseSensitive)

  Do While intPos > 0
    strTmp = Left$(strTmp, intPos - 1) & strReplace & Mid$(strTmp, intPos +
Len(strFind))
    intPos = InStr(intPos + Len(strReplace), strTmp, strFind,
intCaseSensitive)
  Loop

  ReplaceString = strTmp

End Function

Jim Hale


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From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com  Wed Jun  8 10:40:54 2005
From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (John W. Colby)
Date: Wed, 08 Jun 2005 11:40:54 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] No anonymous logon allowed
Message-ID: <002b01c56c40$796535f0$6c7aa8c0@ColbyM6805>

When I try and use FireFox to logon to my ftp site I get "Sorry, no
anonymous logon allowed".  It does not pop up the box for asking for the
user name / password.  Any idea why not and how to make it do so?

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From nkling at co.montgomery.ny.us  Wed Jun  8 10:42:02 2005
From: nkling at co.montgomery.ny.us (Neal Kling)
Date: Wed, 8 Jun 2005 11:42:02 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] No anonymous logon allowed
Message-ID: <30BC111F638EB54082001A7E7282FE4107F3AD@elmo.co.montgomery.ny.us>

Tools: Options: Web Features
The Block Popup Windows check box may be blocking it.

You should be able to add your site to the exceptions list.

Neal

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Sent: Wednesday, June 08, 2005 11:41 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] No anonymous logon allowed


When I try and use FireFox to logon to my ftp site I get "Sorry, no
anonymous logon allowed".  It does not pop up the box for asking for the
user name / password.  Any idea why not and how to make it do so?

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From carbonnb at gmail.com  Wed Jun  8 10:48:37 2005
From: carbonnb at gmail.com (Bryan Carbonnell)
Date: Wed, 8 Jun 2005 11:48:37 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] No anonymous logon allowed
In-Reply-To: <002b01c56c40$796535f0$6c7aa8c0@ColbyM6805>
References: <002b01c56c40$796535f0$6c7aa8c0@ColbyM6805>
Message-ID: <e04a6c920506080848dc1af4b@mail.gmail.com>

On 6/8/05, John W. Colby <jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com> wrote:
> When I try and use FireFox to logon to my ftp site I get "Sorry, no
> anonymous logon allowed".  It does not pop up the box for asking for the
> user name / password.  Any idea why not and how to make it do so?

I believe the default is to use anonymous logins for ftp sites.

If you want to login with a specific user, you will have to use the
following format for the URL:

ftp://username at you.host.tld

This will prompt you for the password.

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From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com  Wed Jun  8 10:51:33 2005
From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (John W. Colby)
Date: Wed, 08 Jun 2005 11:51:33 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] No anonymous logon allowed
In-Reply-To: <30BC111F638EB54082001A7E7282FE4107F3AD@elmo.co.montgomery.ny.us>
Message-ID: <002c01c56c41$f4e8d1e0$6c7aa8c0@ColbyM6805>

Nope, that's apparently not it.  I added my site, no help.  I am talking
about the FTP username/password dialog.

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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Neal Kling
Sent: Wednesday, June 08, 2005 11:42 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] No anonymous logon allowed


Tools: Options: Web Features
The Block Popup Windows check box may be blocking it.

You should be able to add your site to the exceptions list.

Neal

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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of John W. Colby
Sent: Wednesday, June 08, 2005 11:41 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] No anonymous logon allowed


When I try and use FireFox to logon to my ftp site I get "Sorry, no
anonymous logon allowed".  It does not pop up the box for asking for the
user name / password.  Any idea why not and how to make it do so?

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From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com  Wed Jun  8 11:01:52 2005
From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (John W. Colby)
Date: Wed, 08 Jun 2005 12:01:52 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] No anonymous logon allowed
In-Reply-To: <e04a6c920506080848dc1af4b@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <002f01c56c43$65da4860$6c7aa8c0@ColbyM6805>

Well, that does it.  FireFox sure sucks as a FTP manager though.  IE at
least allows you to use the windows explorer to drag and drop files both
directions.

John W. Colby
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[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Bryan Carbonnell
Sent: Wednesday, June 08, 2005 11:49 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] No anonymous logon allowed


On 6/8/05, John W. Colby <jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com> wrote:
> When I try and use FireFox to logon to my ftp site I get "Sorry, no 
> anonymous logon allowed".  It does not pop up the box for asking for 
> the user name / password.  Any idea why not and how to make it do so?

I believe the default is to use anonymous logins for ftp sites.

If you want to login with a specific user, you will have to use the
following format for the URL:

ftp://username at you.host.tld

This will prompt you for the password.

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From john at winhaven.net  Wed Jun  8 11:05:25 2005
From: john at winhaven.net (John Bartow)
Date: Wed, 8 Jun 2005 11:05:25 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] No anonymous logon allowed
In-Reply-To: <e04a6c920506080848dc1af4b@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <200506081605.j58G5UM3358744@pimout2-ext.prodigy.net>

And you do have to include the ftp:// otherwise for some odd reason it jumps
back to http://

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Sent: Wednesday, June 08, 2005 10:49 AM
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Subject: Re: [AccessD] No anonymous logon allowed

On 6/8/05, John W. Colby <jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com> wrote:
> When I try and use FireFox to logon to my ftp site I get "Sorry, no 
> anonymous logon allowed".  It does not pop up the box for asking for 
> the user name / password.  Any idea why not and how to make it do so?

I believe the default is to use anonymous logins for ftp sites.

If you want to login with a specific user, you will have to use the
following format for the URL:

ftp://username at you.host.tld

This will prompt you for the password.

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From Lambert.Heenan at AIG.com  Wed Jun  8 11:05:37 2005
From: Lambert.Heenan at AIG.com (Heenan, Lambert)
Date: Wed, 8 Jun 2005 12:05:37 -0400 
Subject: [AccessD] No anonymous logon allowed
Message-ID: <1D7828CDB8350747AFE9D69E0E90DA1F112146B5@xlivmbx21.aig.com>

Have you tried using the neat FTP extension for firefox, fireFTP? It's at...

https://addons.mozilla.org/extensions/moreinfo.php?id=684

Lambert


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of John W. Colby
Sent: Wednesday, June 08, 2005 11:52 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] No anonymous logon allowed


Nope, that's apparently not it.  I added my site, no help.  I am talking
about the FTP username/password dialog.

John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com 

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-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Neal Kling
Sent: Wednesday, June 08, 2005 11:42 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] No anonymous logon allowed


Tools: Options: Web Features
The Block Popup Windows check box may be blocking it.

You should be able to add your site to the exceptions list.

Neal

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[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of John W. Colby
Sent: Wednesday, June 08, 2005 11:41 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] No anonymous logon allowed


When I try and use FireFox to logon to my ftp site I get "Sorry, no
anonymous logon allowed".  It does not pop up the box for asking for the
user name / password.  Any idea why not and how to make it do so?

John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com 

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From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com  Wed Jun  8 11:12:58 2005
From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (John W. Colby)
Date: Wed, 08 Jun 2005 12:12:58 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] No anonymous logon allowed
In-Reply-To: <1D7828CDB8350747AFE9D69E0E90DA1F112146B5@xlivmbx21.aig.com>
Message-ID: <003001c56c44$eff11fa0$6c7aa8c0@ColbyM6805>

Lambert,

I haven't.  I've just heard too Many horror stories about FF and addins.

John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com 

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-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Heenan, Lambert
Sent: Wednesday, June 08, 2005 12:06 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] No anonymous logon allowed


Have you tried using the neat FTP extension for firefox, fireFTP? It's at...

https://addons.mozilla.org/extensions/moreinfo.php?id=684

Lambert


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of John W. Colby
Sent: Wednesday, June 08, 2005 11:52 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] No anonymous logon allowed


Nope, that's apparently not it.  I added my site, no help.  I am talking
about the FTP username/password dialog.

John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com 

Contribute your unused CPU cycles to a good cause:
http://folding.stanford.edu/

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Neal Kling
Sent: Wednesday, June 08, 2005 11:42 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] No anonymous logon allowed


Tools: Options: Web Features
The Block Popup Windows check box may be blocking it.

You should be able to add your site to the exceptions list.

Neal

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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of John W. Colby
Sent: Wednesday, June 08, 2005 11:41 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] No anonymous logon allowed


When I try and use FireFox to logon to my ftp site I get "Sorry, no
anonymous logon allowed".  It does not pop up the box for asking for the
user name / password.  Any idea why not and how to make it do so?

John W. Colby
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From Gustav at cactus.dk  Wed Jun  8 11:24:02 2005
From: Gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Wed, 08 Jun 2005 18:24:02 +0200
Subject: [AccessD] No anonymous logon allowed
Message-ID: <s2a737e2.026@cactus.dk>

** Low Priority **

Hi John et all

Wouldn't this question fit perfectly on our dba-tech list?

/gustav

>>> jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com 06/08 5:40 pm >>>
When I try and use FireFox to logon to my ftp site ..


From Lambert.Heenan at AIG.com  Wed Jun  8 11:28:07 2005
From: Lambert.Heenan at AIG.com (Heenan, Lambert)
Date: Wed, 8 Jun 2005 12:28:07 -0400 
Subject: [AccessD] No anonymous logon allowed
Message-ID: <1D7828CDB8350747AFE9D69E0E90DA1F112146CC@xlivmbx21.aig.com>

I doubt that they (horror stories about FF) are even close in number to the
horror stories we have about IE! 

The only hassle I've had with FireFox (tempting fate, I know) is with the
FlashBlock extension. On some sites that insist of showing us whiz-bang
flash animations, FF will crash in flashblock is enabled. I suspect that the
advertisers may have planed little bombs in the flash animations to force us
to look at them. Thus far the only sites I've come across that do this (and
then only intermittently) are www.refdesk.com and the drudge report. Losing
Drudge was no hardship, but I like Refdest - so I just enable flash for the
problem sites and get on with life. The FTP entn. Works very well for me.

Lambert

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of John W. Colby
Sent: Wednesday, June 08, 2005 12:13 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] No anonymous logon allowed


Lambert,

I haven't.  I've just heard too Many horror stories about FF and addins.

John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com 

Contribute your unused CPU cycles to a good cause:
http://folding.stanford.edu/

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Heenan, Lambert
Sent: Wednesday, June 08, 2005 12:06 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] No anonymous logon allowed


Have you tried using the neat FTP extension for firefox, fireFTP? It's at...

https://addons.mozilla.org/extensions/moreinfo.php?id=684

Lambert


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of John W. Colby
Sent: Wednesday, June 08, 2005 11:52 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] No anonymous logon allowed


Nope, that's apparently not it.  I added my site, no help.  I am talking
about the FTP username/password dialog.

John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com 

Contribute your unused CPU cycles to a good cause:
http://folding.stanford.edu/

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Neal Kling
Sent: Wednesday, June 08, 2005 11:42 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] No anonymous logon allowed


Tools: Options: Web Features
The Block Popup Windows check box may be blocking it.

You should be able to add your site to the exceptions list.

Neal

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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of John W. Colby
Sent: Wednesday, June 08, 2005 11:41 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] No anonymous logon allowed


When I try and use FireFox to logon to my ftp site I get "Sorry, no
anonymous logon allowed".  It does not pop up the box for asking for the
user name / password.  Any idea why not and how to make it do so?

John W. Colby
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From john at winhaven.net  Wed Jun  8 12:18:44 2005
From: john at winhaven.net (John Bartow)
Date: Wed, 8 Jun 2005 12:18:44 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] No anonymous logon allowed
In-Reply-To: <s2a737e2.026@cactus.dk>
Message-ID: <200506081718.j58HImM3393102@pimout2-ext.prodigy.net>

Yes Gustav, you're correct! Sometimes I forget which list I'm replying
too...

John B. 

-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gustav Brock
Sent: Wednesday, June 08, 2005 11:24 AM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: Re: [AccessD] No anonymous logon allowed
Importance: Low

** Low Priority **

Hi John et all

Wouldn't this question fit perfectly on our dba-tech list?

/gustav

>>> jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com 06/08 5:40 pm >>>
When I try and use FireFox to logon to my ftp site ..
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From dwaters at usinternet.com  Wed Jun  8 12:38:54 2005
From: dwaters at usinternet.com (Dan Waters)
Date: Wed, 8 Jun 2005 10:38:54 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Creating SPC charts
In-Reply-To: <17102778.1118195814428.JavaMail.root@sniper16>
Message-ID: <000001c56c50$f1e1fcb0$35018e0a@danwaters>

Joe,

That's it!  But let me get back to you again later today with a little more
info.

Dan Waters


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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Joe Rojas
Sent: Tuesday, June 07, 2005 6:54 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Creating SPC charts

Thanks Dan!

I was hoping you were going to say that. I wanted to try and keep this all
in Access.

When you say "MS Graph", does this mean the same thing as inserting a chart
in an access report by going to Insert -> Chart? Or is this something
different?

Thanks,
JR

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Sent: Tuesday, June 07, 2005 4:05 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Creating SPC charts

Hi Joe,

I am a Quality Engineer and have made many SPC charts!  But none in Access
yet.  You can use MS Graph to make these - pretty much anything you can
create in Excel you can make in MS Graph. 

All the best!

Dan Waters


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Sent: Tuesday, June 07, 2005 8:10 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] Creating SPC charts

Hello,
(Access 2000)

I need to create statistical process control charts. Also known as X-bar
charts, R-charts, ect.

I already have the data but I don't know how to generate these kinds of
charts in Access.
Has anyone created these kinds of charts before?

Thanks!
JR




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From carbonnb at gmail.com  Wed Jun  8 12:52:50 2005
From: carbonnb at gmail.com (Bryan Carbonnell)
Date: Wed, 8 Jun 2005 13:52:50 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] No anonymous logon allowed
In-Reply-To: <002f01c56c43$65da4860$6c7aa8c0@ColbyM6805>
References: <e04a6c920506080848dc1af4b@mail.gmail.com>
	<002f01c56c43$65da4860$6c7aa8c0@ColbyM6805>
Message-ID: <e04a6c9205060810521c17c350@mail.gmail.com>

On 6/8/05, John W. Colby <jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com> wrote:
> Well, that does it.  FireFox sure sucks as a FTP manager though.  IE at
> least allows you to use the windows explorer to drag and drop files both
> directions.

That's because FF is a web browser. Not an FTP client.

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From stuart at lexacorp.com.pg  Wed Jun  8 13:44:35 2005
From: stuart at lexacorp.com.pg (Stuart McLachlan)
Date: Thu, 09 Jun 2005 04:44:35 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] No anonymous logon allowed
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On 8 Jun 2005 at 13:52, Bryan Carbonnell wrote:

> On 6/8/05, John W. Colby <jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com> wrote:
> > Well, that does it.  FireFox sure sucks as a FTP manager though.  IE at
> > least allows you to use the windows explorer to drag and drop files both
> > directions.
> 
> That's because FF is a web browser. Not an FTP client.
> 
That's why I use SmartFTP http://www.smartftp.com-- 
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From fhtapia at gmail.com  Wed Jun  8 17:48:20 2005
From: fhtapia at gmail.com (Francisco Tapia)
Date: Wed, 8 Jun 2005 15:48:20 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Access 2003, and ADPs
Message-ID: <b874372a05060815484fc72c6d@mail.gmail.com>

I just got my copy of Access 2003 along w/ the Developer Extensions...
IF I open up Access 2003 and create a blank ADP, I noticed in the
title bar that the file format is in Access 2000 instead of Access
2003... did I misconfigure something?


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From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com  Wed Jun  8 17:56:07 2005
From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (John W. Colby)
Date: Wed, 08 Jun 2005 18:56:07 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Access 2003, and ADPs
In-Reply-To: <b874372a05060815484fc72c6d@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <004001c56c7d$4166dfe0$6c7aa8c0@ColbyM6805>

I think it is just a continuation of the bug (never fixed) that prevents
compacting any containers after 2K.  Thus the default is to build containers
in the 2K format since they can be compacted.

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Subject: [AccessD] Access 2003, and ADPs


I just got my copy of Access 2003 along w/ the Developer Extensions... IF I
open up Access 2003 and create a blank ADP, I noticed in the title bar that
the file format is in Access 2000 instead of Access 2003... did I
misconfigure something?


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From fhtapia at gmail.com  Wed Jun  8 18:45:09 2005
From: fhtapia at gmail.com (Francisco Tapia)
Date: Wed, 8 Jun 2005 16:45:09 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Access 2003, and ADPs
In-Reply-To: <004001c56c7d$4166dfe0$6c7aa8c0@ColbyM6805>
References: <b874372a05060815484fc72c6d@mail.gmail.com>
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Message-ID: <b874372a05060816456ba79a62@mail.gmail.com>

huh?

damn nobody mentioned this bug when I first asked about problems w/
Access 2003 (before I bought it...) I'm having buyer's remorse ;)

I did a bit of diggin around and if I start a new db, then I can go
into options and choose 2002-2003 format as the default. which is
nice. (i hope).

On 6/8/05, John W. Colby <jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com> wrote:
> I think it is just a continuation of the bug (never fixed) that prevents
> compacting any containers after 2K.  Thus the default is to build containers
> in the 2K format since they can be compacted.
> 
> John W. Colby
> www.ColbyConsulting.com
> 
> Contribute your unused CPU cycles to a good cause:
> http://folding.stanford.edu/
> 
> -----Original Message-----
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> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Francisco Tapia
> Sent: Wednesday, June 08, 2005 6:48 PM
> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> Subject: [AccessD] Access 2003, and ADPs
> 
> 
> I just got my copy of Access 2003 along w/ the Developer Extensions... IF I
> open up Access 2003 and create a blank ADP, I noticed in the title bar that
> the file format is in Access 2000 instead of Access 2003... did I
> misconfigure something?
> 
> 
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From fhtapia at gmail.com  Wed Jun  8 18:59:39 2005
From: fhtapia at gmail.com (Francisco Tapia)
Date: Wed, 8 Jun 2005 16:59:39 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Access 2003, and ADPs
In-Reply-To: <b874372a05060816456ba79a62@mail.gmail.com>
References: <b874372a05060815484fc72c6d@mail.gmail.com>
	<004001c56c7d$4166dfe0$6c7aa8c0@ColbyM6805>
	<b874372a05060816456ba79a62@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <b874372a05060816596a0d26d9@mail.gmail.com>

i'm looking at this error too... 

Microsoft Jet 4.0 Service Pack 8 or later must be installed to block
unsafe expressions without affecting common functionality.

what is the concensus for this?...

On 6/8/05, Francisco Tapia <fhtapia at gmail.com> wrote:
> huh?
> 
> damn nobody mentioned this bug when I first asked about problems w/
> Access 2003 (before I bought it...) I'm having buyer's remorse ;)
> 
> I did a bit of diggin around and if I start a new db, then I can go
> into options and choose 2002-2003 format as the default. which is
> nice. (i hope).
> 
> On 6/8/05, John W. Colby <jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com> wrote:
> > I think it is just a continuation of the bug (never fixed) that prevents
> > compacting any containers after 2K.  Thus the default is to build containers
> > in the 2K format since they can be compacted.
> >
> > John W. Colby
> > www.ColbyConsulting.com
> >
> > Contribute your unused CPU cycles to a good cause:
> > http://folding.stanford.edu/
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> > [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Francisco Tapia
> > Sent: Wednesday, June 08, 2005 6:48 PM
> > To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> > Subject: [AccessD] Access 2003, and ADPs
> >
> >
> > I just got my copy of Access 2003 along w/ the Developer Extensions... IF I
> > open up Access 2003 and create a blank ADP, I noticed in the title bar that
> > the file format is in Access 2000 instead of Access 2003... did I
> > misconfigure something?
> >
> >
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From dwaters at usinternet.com  Wed Jun  8 18:59:41 2005
From: dwaters at usinternet.com (Dan Waters)
Date: Wed, 8 Jun 2005 16:59:41 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Access 2003, and ADPs
In-Reply-To: <24720894.1118274468106.JavaMail.root@sniper15>
Message-ID: <000001c56c86$23fbf720$35018e0a@danwaters>

Francisco!

Don't have buyer's remorse!  All you have to do is keep the database file
format in A2k.  There are no drawbacks (that I know of) to doing this.  It's
just something to remember.

And, keep the Default database format set to A2K as well.

In any case, this will only affect tables.  Since you're making a ADP, this
may not affect you.  Perhaps someone else knows the story on this.

Dan Waters

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Francisco Tapia
Sent: Wednesday, June 08, 2005 4:45 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Access 2003, and ADPs

huh?

damn nobody mentioned this bug when I first asked about problems w/
Access 2003 (before I bought it...) I'm having buyer's remorse ;)

I did a bit of diggin around and if I start a new db, then I can go
into options and choose 2002-2003 format as the default. which is
nice. (i hope).

On 6/8/05, John W. Colby <jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com> wrote:
> I think it is just a continuation of the bug (never fixed) that prevents
> compacting any containers after 2K.  Thus the default is to build
containers
> in the 2K format since they can be compacted.
> 
> John W. Colby
> www.ColbyConsulting.com
> 
> Contribute your unused CPU cycles to a good cause:
> http://folding.stanford.edu/
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Francisco Tapia
> Sent: Wednesday, June 08, 2005 6:48 PM
> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> Subject: [AccessD] Access 2003, and ADPs
> 
> 
> I just got my copy of Access 2003 along w/ the Developer Extensions... IF
I
> open up Access 2003 and create a blank ADP, I noticed in the title bar
that
> the file format is in Access 2000 instead of Access 2003... did I
> misconfigure something?
> 
> 
> --
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From KP at sdsonline.net  Wed Jun  8 19:26:11 2005
From: KP at sdsonline.net (Kath Pelletti)
Date: Thu, 9 Jun 2005 10:26:11 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] Website down?
Message-ID: <00a901c56c89$d72c2100$6601a8c0@user>

Hi all - is the website down? I'm trying to get at the archive and having no luck......

______________________________________________
Kath Pelletti

From KP at sdsonline.net  Wed Jun  8 19:38:16 2005
From: KP at sdsonline.net (Kath Pelletti)
Date: Thu, 9 Jun 2005 10:38:16 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] Website down?
References: <00a901c56c89$d72c2100$6601a8c0@user>
Message-ID: <00c401c56c8b$872e9c80$6601a8c0@user>

Don't worry - there does seem to be some trouble with the home page but I found the archive link - 

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Kath Pelletti 
  To: AccessD at databaseadvisors.com 
  Sent: Thursday, June 09, 2005 10:26 AM
  Subject: [AccessD] Website down?


  Hi all - is the website down? I'm trying to get at the archive and having no luck......

  ______________________________________________
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From KP at sdsonline.net  Wed Jun  8 19:58:07 2005
From: KP at sdsonline.net (Kath Pelletti)
Date: Thu, 9 Jun 2005 10:58:07 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] Website / archive / error loading picture
Message-ID: <003c01c56c8e$4d024f40$6601a8c0@user>

I take it back - when I access the archive it doesnt seem to give me the full history. (I have an idea that this topic may have been covered before..)

In the interim, could someone help with an error 2114.

Situation is existing client with 4 workstations - 1 was replaced this week - Windows XP Pro re-installed, Office 2000 re-installed.

When the user opens a form which attempts to load a .jpg or .gif picture the system come up with "...the database doesn't support the format of 
'E:\Database\Photos\Peru.jpg' so it can't load the picture.

Google brought up a few instances of developers getting this error where the graphics filters in Office haven't been installed. I have gone in to the setup of Office on that PC and re-installed the graphics filters but I am still getting the error.

Can anyone help ?

______________________________________________
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Fax: 9505-6430
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From john at winhaven.net  Wed Jun  8 20:31:11 2005
From: john at winhaven.net (John Bartow)
Date: Wed, 8 Jun 2005 20:31:11 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Website down?
In-Reply-To: <00a901c56c89$d72c2100$6601a8c0@user>
Message-ID: <200506090131.j591VFPA207598@pimout4-ext.prodigy.net>

Hi Kath,
It would appear our web server is down. I cannot ftp in either. We're
working on it...

John Bartow, President
Database Advisors, Inc.
Email: mailto:president at databaseadvisors.com
Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com


-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Kath Pelletti
Sent: Wednesday, June 08, 2005 7:26 PM
To: AccessD at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [AccessD] Website down?

Hi all - is the website down? I'm trying to get at the archive and having no
luck......

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From GregSmith at starband.net  Wed Jun  8 21:41:48 2005
From: GregSmith at starband.net (Greg Smith)
Date: Wed, 8 Jun 2005 21:41:48 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Website down?
In-Reply-To: <00c401c56c8b$872e9c80$6601a8c0@user>
Message-ID: <200506090245.j592jJ3Y022699@apophis.email.starband.net>

I can't get to www.databaseadvisors.com either.  "Page cannot be displayed".

It's toast, at least for the moment.

As for the 2114 error, try going to:

  http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;294255

And see if this is what you are getting.

Greg 

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Kath Pelletti
Sent: Wednesday, June 08, 2005 7:38 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Website down?

Don't worry - there does seem to be some trouble with the home page but I
found the archive link - 

  ----- Original Message -----
  From: Kath Pelletti
  To: AccessD at databaseadvisors.com
  Sent: Thursday, June 09, 2005 10:26 AM
  Subject: [AccessD] Website down?


  Hi all - is the website down? I'm trying to get at the archive and having
no luck......

  ______________________________________________
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From dwaters at usinternet.com  Wed Jun  8 22:05:44 2005
From: dwaters at usinternet.com (Dan Waters)
Date: Wed, 8 Jun 2005 20:05:44 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Creating SPC charts
In-Reply-To: <17102778.1118195814428.JavaMail.root@sniper16>
Message-ID: <000101c56ca0$21861650$7905a8c0@danwaters>

Joe,

After you insert the chart, change the Class property to MSGraph.Chart, not
MSGraph.Chart.8, which will be entered automatically.

Then, in References select Microsoft Graph 10.0 Object Library (for AXP), or
the appropriate reference for your version of Access.

It's been a while, but I seem to remember that once I did this, then
everything else seemed to work out OK.

Actually, creating the queries is more of a challenge than making the chart.
You may need to create a series of queries to get what you're looking for.

HTH!

Dan Waters


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Joe Rojas
Sent: Tuesday, June 07, 2005 6:54 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Creating SPC charts

Thanks Dan!

I was hoping you were going to say that. I wanted to try and keep this all
in Access.

When you say "MS Graph", does this mean the same thing as inserting a chart
in an access report by going to Insert -> Chart? Or is this something
different?

Thanks,
JR

-----Original Message-----
From: Dan Waters [mailto:dwaters at usinternet.com]
Sent: Tuesday, June 07, 2005 4:05 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Creating SPC charts

Hi Joe,

I am a Quality Engineer and have made many SPC charts!  But none in Access
yet.  You can use MS Graph to make these - pretty much anything you can
create in Excel you can make in MS Graph. 

All the best!

Dan Waters


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Joe Rojas
Sent: Tuesday, June 07, 2005 8:10 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] Creating SPC charts

Hello,
(Access 2000)

I need to create statistical process control charts. Also known as X-bar
charts, R-charts, ect.

I already have the data but I don't know how to generate these kinds of
charts in Access.
Has anyone created these kinds of charts before?

Thanks!
JR




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From martyconnelly at shaw.ca  Thu Jun  9 00:10:33 2005
From: martyconnelly at shaw.ca (MartyConnelly)
Date: Wed, 08 Jun 2005 22:10:33 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Website / archive / error loading picture
References: <003c01c56c8e$4d024f40$6601a8c0@user>
Message-ID: <42A7CF49.9020801@shaw.ca>

I know it coughs on jpeg but sometimes just changing extension to jpg works
You need a full install of office I think, If not this works

http://www.lebans.com/loadjpeg?gif.htm
A97LoadJpegGif.zip is a database containing a function to allow for the
Display of Jpeg and Gif files on systems that do not have the Office
Graphic Filters installed.  Here is the A2K version: A2KLoadJpegGif.zip


NEW - April 05 2003 Ver 5.0 Developed to allow Access RunTime
installations to display Jpeg files in a standard Image Control.
Provides functionality to load JPG,GIF,BMP,EMF,WMF,CUR and ICO  files on
systems without the Office Graphics Filters loaded.
Originally developed for Systems with Access Runtime only.  Supports
transparency in Transparent Gifs.  Allows you to resize Images on
Forms/Reports at runtime  with no loss of Image quality.



Kath Pelletti wrote:

>I take it back - when I access the archive it doesnt seem to give me the full history. (I have an idea that this topic may have been covered before..)
>
>In the interim, could someone help with an error 2114.
>
>Situation is existing client with 4 workstations - 1 was replaced this week - Windows XP Pro re-installed, Office 2000 re-installed.
>
>When the user opens a form which attempts to load a .jpg or .gif picture the system come up with "...the database doesn't support the format of 
>'E:\Database\Photos\Peru.jpg' so it can't load the picture.
>
>Google brought up a few instances of developers getting this error where the graphics filters in Office haven't been installed. I have gone in to the setup of Office on that PC and re-installed the graphics filters but I am still getting the error.
>
>Can anyone help ?
>
>______________________________________________
>Kath Pelletti
>Software Design & Solutions Pty Ltd.
>Ph: 9505-6714
>Fax: 9505-6430
>KP at SDSOnline.net
>  
>

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From martyconnelly at shaw.ca  Thu Jun  9 00:38:03 2005
From: martyconnelly at shaw.ca (MartyConnelly)
Date: Wed, 08 Jun 2005 22:38:03 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Website / archive / error loading picture
References: <003c01c56c8e$4d024f40$6601a8c0@user> <42A7CF49.9020801@shaw.ca>
Message-ID: <42A7D5BB.1010807@shaw.ca>

This may also help but I have never used, there are complaints about 
this with Office 2003 and Tiff image filters
which may require a hotfix, this download is supposed to install filters 
commensurate with version you have installed


Additional text converters and image filters are available in the 
Microsoft Office File Converter Pack
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/212265/

MartyConnelly wrote:

> I know it coughs on jpeg but sometimes just changing extension to jpg 
> works
> You need a full install of office I think, If not this works
>
> http://www.lebans.com/loadjpeg?gif.htm
> A97LoadJpegGif.zip is a database containing a function to allow for the
> Display of Jpeg and Gif files on systems that do not have the Office
> Graphic Filters installed.  Here is the A2K version: A2KLoadJpegGif.zip
>
>
> NEW - April 05 2003 Ver 5.0 Developed to allow Access RunTime
> installations to display Jpeg files in a standard Image Control.
> Provides functionality to load JPG,GIF,BMP,EMF,WMF,CUR and ICO  files on
> systems without the Office Graphics Filters loaded.
> Originally developed for Systems with Access Runtime only.  Supports
> transparency in Transparent Gifs.  Allows you to resize Images on
> Forms/Reports at runtime  with no loss of Image quality.
>
>
>
> Kath Pelletti wrote:
>
>> I take it back - when I access the archive it doesnt seem to give me 
>> the full history. (I have an idea that this topic may have been 
>> covered before..)
>>
>> In the interim, could someone help with an error 2114.
>>
>> Situation is existing client with 4 workstations - 1 was replaced 
>> this week - Windows XP Pro re-installed, Office 2000 re-installed.
>>
>> When the user opens a form which attempts to load a .jpg or .gif 
>> picture the system come up with "...the database doesn't support the 
>> format of 'E:\Database\Photos\Peru.jpg' so it can't load the picture.
>>
>> Google brought up a few instances of developers getting this error 
>> where the graphics filters in Office haven't been installed. I have 
>> gone in to the setup of Office on that PC and re-installed the 
>> graphics filters but I am still getting the error.
>>
>> Can anyone help ?
>>
>> ______________________________________________
>> Kath Pelletti
>> Software Design & Solutions Pty Ltd.
>> Ph: 9505-6714
>> Fax: 9505-6430
>> KP at SDSOnline.net
>>  
>>
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From paul.hartland at fsmail.net  Thu Jun  9 04:05:37 2005
From: paul.hartland at fsmail.net (paul.hartland at fsmail.net)
Date: Thu,  9 Jun 2005 11:05:37 +0200 (CEST)
Subject: [AccessD] More MapPoint Help If Possible
Message-ID: <20893438.1118307937034.JavaMail.www@wwinf3102>

To all,

I have the following code which sends a Client postcode and around 475 employee postcodes to MapPoint and returns the Mileage, however this takes around 16 minutes to complete which is far too long for our needs, can anyone see a way of speeding this up we really need this procedure to be as fast as possible.

Private Sub FlyMap_Click()
On Error Resume Next
    Dim rsClient As ADODB.Recordset
    Dim rsEmp As ADODB.Recordset
    Dim oMap As MapPoint.Map
    Dim oLoc1 As MapPoint.Location
    Dim oLoc2 As MapPoint.Location
    Dim strCPC As String
    
    Dim dtStart As Date
    Dim dtFinish As Date
    
    Set rsClient = New ADODB.Recordset
    rsClient.Open ("SELECT InvPostCode FROM tblClaires"), OpenDataConn, adOpenDynamic, adLockReadOnly
    strCPC = rsClient!InvPostCode
    rsClient.Close
    Set rsClient = Nothing
    
    Set rsEmp = New ADODB.Recordset
    rsEmp.Open ("SELECT PayrollNo, Postcode, DistFromClient FROM tblMidlands"), OpenDataConn, adOpenDynamic, adLockOptimistic
    
    Set oMap = CreateObject("MapPoint.Application").ActiveMap
    oMap.Parent.PaneState = geoPaneRoutePlanner
    
    With oMap.ActiveRoute
        rsEmp.MoveFirst
        dtStart = Format(Time(), "HH:MM:SS")
        
        Screen.MousePointer = vbHourglass
        
        Do Until (rsEmp.EOF)
            If (IsNull(rsEmp.Fields("Postcode")) = False Or rsEmp.Fields("Postcode") <> "") Then
                Set oLoc1 = oMap.FindResults(strCPC)(1)
                Set oLoc2 = oMap.FindResults(rsEmp.Fields("Postcode"))(1)
                If (oLoc1 Is Nothing Or oLoc2 Is Nothing) Then
                    ' **** No Results Returned ****
                Else
                    ' **** Results Returned So Calculate Distance Etc ****
                    .Waypoints.Add oLoc1, "Start"
                    .Waypoints.Add oLoc2, "End"
                    .Calculate
                    If (.IsCalculated = True) Then
                        rsEmp.Fields("DistFromClient") = Format(.Distance, "00.00")
                        rsEmp.Update
                    End If
                End If
            End If
            rsEmp.MoveNext
            .Clear
        Loop
        
        Screen.MousePointer = vbDefault
    End With
    rsEmp.Close
    Set rsEmp = Nothing
    oMap.Saved = True
    Set oMap = Nothing
    
    dtFinish = Format(Time(), "HH:MM:SS")
    MsgBox "Finished : " & Format(dtFinish - dtStart, "HH:MM:SS")
End Sub


Thanks in advance for any help and/or code samples

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From mmattys at rochester.rr.com  Thu Jun  9 07:14:58 2005
From: mmattys at rochester.rr.com (Michael R Mattys)
Date: Thu, 9 Jun 2005 08:14:58 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] More MapPoint Help If Possible
References: <20893438.1118307937034.JavaMail.www@wwinf3102>
Message-ID: <034701c56cec$dd4893d0$0202a8c0@default>

----- Original Message ----- 
From: <paul.hartland at fsmail.net>
To: "accessd" <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Thursday, June 09, 2005 5:05 AM
Subject: [AccessD] More MapPoint Help If Possible

Paul,

Try MileCharter here: http://www.mapping-tools.com/

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From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com  Thu Jun  9 07:17:58 2005
From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (John W. Colby)
Date: Thu, 09 Jun 2005 08:17:58 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] More MapPoint Help If Possible
In-Reply-To: <20893438.1118307937034.JavaMail.www@wwinf3102>
Message-ID: <004e01c56ced$490af130$6c7aa8c0@ColbyM6805>

Paul,

Are you pretesting the addresses to ensure that they resolve to a single
location?  In my data I get a ton of addresses which end up with many
possible locations (can't be found so a "set" of possibilities is returned.
.FindResults returns a collection of all the possible locations.  If .Count
is 1 then a single address was found and thus the address is "valid".  You
might want to look at how many addresses are returning a count > 0 and mark
those addresses as invalid (using a field in the table), then do not look
them up in the future until they are fixed.  These location lookups take far
longer than if the address resolves correctly and in the end just shouldn't
be calculated every time.

The thing you need to do is time the various parts of the code.  Here is a
look at a set of data points as I look up the address, and then look up the
distance as the crow flies and distance as the car drives:


Time to find Children's Specialized Hospital and 12 MSec
Time to calc Distance ATCF between Family Resource Associates, Inc. and
Children's Specialized Hospital: 1 MSec - 26.89295 miles"
Time to calc Distance ATCD between Family Resource Associates, Inc. and
Children's Specialized Hospital: 448 MSec - 33.64725 miles
Time to find Fort Lee School District and 7 MSec
Time to calc Distance ATCF between Family Resource Associates, Inc. and Fort
Lee School District: 0 MSec - 35.70896 miles"
Time to calc Distance ATCD between Family Resource Associates, Inc. and Fort
Lee School District: 1143 MSec - 53.54356 miles
Time to find Garfield School District and 4 MSec
Time to calc Distance ATCF between Family Resource Associates, Inc. and
Garfield School District: 0 MSec - 37.72034 miles"
Time to calc Distance ATCD between Family Resource Associates, Inc. and
Garfield School District: 758 MSec - 52.45616 miles
Time to find Garwood School District and 8 MSec
Time to calc Distance ATCF between Family Resource Associates, Inc. and
Garwood School District: 0 MSec - 25.45199 miles"
Time to calc Distance ATCD between Family Resource Associates, Inc. and
Garwood School District: 401 MSec - 30.58389 miles

What this tells me is that the time to look up an address that correctly
resolves to a single address is minimal (~10 milliseconds), the time to calc
the distance as the crow floes is almost nothing, but the time to calc the
distance driven is huge and obviously varies with the number of roads that
have to be found and calculated.  I would guess that you just aren't going
to change that time.

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Sent: Thursday, June 09, 2005 5:06 AM
To: accessd
Subject: [AccessD] More MapPoint Help If Possible


To all,

I have the following code which sends a Client postcode and around 475
employee postcodes to MapPoint and returns the Mileage, however this takes
around 16 minutes to complete which is far too long for our needs, can
anyone see a way of speeding this up we really need this procedure to be as
fast as possible.

Private Sub FlyMap_Click()
On Error Resume Next
    Dim rsClient As ADODB.Recordset
    Dim rsEmp As ADODB.Recordset
    Dim oMap As MapPoint.Map
    Dim oLoc1 As MapPoint.Location
    Dim oLoc2 As MapPoint.Location
    Dim strCPC As String
    
    Dim dtStart As Date
    Dim dtFinish As Date
    
    Set rsClient = New ADODB.Recordset
    rsClient.Open ("SELECT InvPostCode FROM tblClaires"), OpenDataConn,
adOpenDynamic, adLockReadOnly
    strCPC = rsClient!InvPostCode
    rsClient.Close
    Set rsClient = Nothing
    
    Set rsEmp = New ADODB.Recordset
    rsEmp.Open ("SELECT PayrollNo, Postcode, DistFromClient FROM
tblMidlands"), OpenDataConn, adOpenDynamic, adLockOptimistic
    
    Set oMap = CreateObject("MapPoint.Application").ActiveMap
    oMap.Parent.PaneState = geoPaneRoutePlanner
    
    With oMap.ActiveRoute
        rsEmp.MoveFirst
        dtStart = Format(Time(), "HH:MM:SS")
        
        Screen.MousePointer = vbHourglass
        
        Do Until (rsEmp.EOF)
            If (IsNull(rsEmp.Fields("Postcode")) = False Or
rsEmp.Fields("Postcode") <> "") Then
                Set oLoc1 = oMap.FindResults(strCPC)(1)
                Set oLoc2 = oMap.FindResults(rsEmp.Fields("Postcode"))(1)
                If (oLoc1 Is Nothing Or oLoc2 Is Nothing) Then
                    ' **** No Results Returned ****
                Else
                    ' **** Results Returned So Calculate Distance Etc ****
                    .Waypoints.Add oLoc1, "Start"
                    .Waypoints.Add oLoc2, "End"
                    .Calculate
                    If (.IsCalculated = True) Then
                        rsEmp.Fields("DistFromClient") = Format(.Distance,
"00.00")
                        rsEmp.Update
                    End If
                End If
            End If
            rsEmp.MoveNext
            .Clear
        Loop
        
        Screen.MousePointer = vbDefault
    End With
    rsEmp.Close
    Set rsEmp = Nothing
    oMap.Saved = True
    Set oMap = Nothing
    
    dtFinish = Format(Time(), "HH:MM:SS")
    MsgBox "Finished : " & Format(dtFinish - dtStart, "HH:MM:SS") End Sub


Thanks in advance for any help and/or code samples

Paul Hartland

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From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com  Thu Jun  9 07:41:43 2005
From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (John W. Colby)
Date: Thu, 09 Jun 2005 08:41:43 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] More MapPoint Help If Possible
In-Reply-To: <20893438.1118307937034.JavaMail.www@wwinf3102>
Message-ID: <004f01c56cf0$9aa45920$6c7aa8c0@ColbyM6805>

Do these addresses change daily?  If not why not precalc the distances and
store them?

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Sent: Thursday, June 09, 2005 5:06 AM
To: accessd
Subject: [AccessD] More MapPoint Help If Possible


To all,

I have the following code which sends a Client postcode and around 475
employee postcodes to MapPoint and returns the Mileage, however this takes
around 16 minutes to complete which is far too long for our needs, can
anyone see a way of speeding this up we really need this procedure to be as
fast as possible.

Private Sub FlyMap_Click()
On Error Resume Next
    Dim rsClient As ADODB.Recordset
    Dim rsEmp As ADODB.Recordset
    Dim oMap As MapPoint.Map
    Dim oLoc1 As MapPoint.Location
    Dim oLoc2 As MapPoint.Location
    Dim strCPC As String
    
    Dim dtStart As Date
    Dim dtFinish As Date
    
    Set rsClient = New ADODB.Recordset
    rsClient.Open ("SELECT InvPostCode FROM tblClaires"), OpenDataConn,
adOpenDynamic, adLockReadOnly
    strCPC = rsClient!InvPostCode
    rsClient.Close
    Set rsClient = Nothing
    
    Set rsEmp = New ADODB.Recordset
    rsEmp.Open ("SELECT PayrollNo, Postcode, DistFromClient FROM
tblMidlands"), OpenDataConn, adOpenDynamic, adLockOptimistic
    
    Set oMap = CreateObject("MapPoint.Application").ActiveMap
    oMap.Parent.PaneState = geoPaneRoutePlanner
    
    With oMap.ActiveRoute
        rsEmp.MoveFirst
        dtStart = Format(Time(), "HH:MM:SS")
        
        Screen.MousePointer = vbHourglass
        
        Do Until (rsEmp.EOF)
            If (IsNull(rsEmp.Fields("Postcode")) = False Or
rsEmp.Fields("Postcode") <> "") Then
                Set oLoc1 = oMap.FindResults(strCPC)(1)
                Set oLoc2 = oMap.FindResults(rsEmp.Fields("Postcode"))(1)
                If (oLoc1 Is Nothing Or oLoc2 Is Nothing) Then
                    ' **** No Results Returned ****
                Else
                    ' **** Results Returned So Calculate Distance Etc ****
                    .Waypoints.Add oLoc1, "Start"
                    .Waypoints.Add oLoc2, "End"
                    .Calculate
                    If (.IsCalculated = True) Then
                        rsEmp.Fields("DistFromClient") = Format(.Distance,
"00.00")
                        rsEmp.Update
                    End If
                End If
            End If
            rsEmp.MoveNext
            .Clear
        Loop
        
        Screen.MousePointer = vbDefault
    End With
    rsEmp.Close
    Set rsEmp = Nothing
    oMap.Saved = True
    Set oMap = Nothing
    
    dtFinish = Format(Time(), "HH:MM:SS")
    MsgBox "Finished : " & Format(dtFinish - dtStart, "HH:MM:SS") End Sub


Thanks in advance for any help and/or code samples

Paul Hartland

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From BBarabash at TappeConstruction.com  Thu Jun  9 08:57:10 2005
From: BBarabash at TappeConstruction.com (Brett Barabash)
Date: Thu, 9 Jun 2005 08:57:10 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Access 2003, and ADPs
Message-ID: <100F91B31300334B89EC531C9DCB08659F7682@tccexch01.tappeconstruction.net>

I installed it (after a lengthy search through the MS site).  If you
don't, be prepared for non-stop nagging everytime you open a database.

Access 2003 has worked well for me, although functionality wise it is
pretty much on par with Access 2000.


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Francisco
Tapia
Sent: Wednesday, June 08, 2005 7:00 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Access 2003, and ADPs

i'm looking at this error too... 

Microsoft Jet 4.0 Service Pack 8 or later must be installed to block
unsafe expressions without affecting common functionality.

what is the concensus for this?...

On 6/8/05, Francisco Tapia <fhtapia at gmail.com> wrote:
> huh?
> 
> damn nobody mentioned this bug when I first asked about problems w/ 
> Access 2003 (before I bought it...) I'm having buyer's remorse ;)
> 
> I did a bit of diggin around and if I start a new db, then I can go 
> into options and choose 2002-2003 format as the default. which is 
> nice. (i hope).
> 
> On 6/8/05, John W. Colby <jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com> wrote:
> > I think it is just a continuation of the bug (never fixed) that 
> > prevents compacting any containers after 2K.  Thus the default is to

> > build containers in the 2K format since they can be compacted.
> >
> > John W. Colby
> > www.ColbyConsulting.com
> >
> > Contribute your unused CPU cycles to a good cause:
> > http://folding.stanford.edu/
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> > [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Francisco

> > Tapia
> > Sent: Wednesday, June 08, 2005 6:48 PM
> > To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> > Subject: [AccessD] Access 2003, and ADPs
> >
> >
> > I just got my copy of Access 2003 along w/ the Developer 
> > Extensions... IF I open up Access 2003 and create a blank ADP, I 
> > noticed in the title 

> > instead of Access 2003... did I misconfigure something?
> >
> >
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> > http://sqlthis.blogspot.com | Tsql and More...
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From JHewson at karta.com  Thu Jun  9 10:11:47 2005
From: JHewson at karta.com (Jim Hewson)
Date: Thu, 9 Jun 2005 10:11:47 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Close object without saving
Message-ID: <9C382E065F54AE48BC3AA7925DCBB01C034D87CE@karta-exc-int.Karta.com>


I'm having trouble finding the Close Action parameters.
I want to close created and/or modified objects without saving them.
Currently, forms, reports and queries close with any changes saved
automatically.
New Query Defs I get the "Save As" dialog box.
I can't find the toggle to change it.
Where is it?  A2K.
Thanks,
Jim



From RRANTHON at sentara.com  Thu Jun  9 10:16:18 2005
From: RRANTHON at sentara.com (Randall R Anthony)
Date: Thu, 09 Jun 2005 11:16:18 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Close object without saving
Message-ID: <200506091516.j59FGas18254@databaseadvisors.com>

Is this what you're looking for?  Added to the end of the DoCmd.
statement.

, acSaveNo


From JHewson at karta.com  Thu Jun  9 10:27:06 2005
From: JHewson at karta.com (Jim Hewson)
Date: Thu, 9 Jun 2005 10:27:06 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Close object without saving
Message-ID: <9C382E065F54AE48BC3AA7925DCBB01C034D87D8@karta-exc-int.Karta.com>

No, I found that.
What I'm looking for is the dialog box and asks if I want to save the
query, form, etc.
Instead it automatically saves.
Thanks
Jim


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Sent: Thursday, June 09, 2005 10:16 AM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Close object without saving

Is this what you're looking for?  Added to the end of the DoCmd.
statement.

, acSaveNo
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From andy at minstersystems.co.uk  Thu Jun  9 10:39:17 2005
From: andy at minstersystems.co.uk (Andy Lacey)
Date: Thu, 9 Jun 2005 16:39:17 +0100
Subject: [AccessD] Close object without saving
Message-ID: <20050609153913.AED82253ACF@smtp.nildram.co.uk>

Jim
I suspect that your program somewhere has done a Docmd.SetWarnings False and
not set it True again. So I'd a) put Docmd.Setwarnings True at the start of
your MDB to get it sorted, but b) try to find the offending code cos it's
going to keep happening otherwise. One thought is that the code may be
setting it False, falling into an error and the error handler doesn't set it
True again.

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Subject: RE: [AccessD] Close object without saving
Date: 09/06/05 15:27

>
> No, I found that.
> What I'm looking for is the dialog box and asks if I want to save the
> query, form, etc.
> Instead it automatically saves.
> Thanks
> Jim
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Randall R
> Anthony
> Sent: Thursday, June 09, 2005 10:16 AM
> To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] Close object without saving
>
> Is this what you're looking for?  Added to the end of the DoCmd.
> statement.
>
> , acSaveNo
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From Lambert.Heenan at AIG.com  Thu Jun  9 10:54:13 2005
From: Lambert.Heenan at AIG.com (Heenan, Lambert)
Date: Thu, 9 Jun 2005 11:54:13 -0400 
Subject: [AccessD] Close object without saving
Message-ID: <1D7828CDB8350747AFE9D69E0E90DA1F112149F7@xlivmbx21.aig.com>

What you need is 

Docmd.SetWarnings True

Which you can type in the immediate window and hit enter.

This setting is specific to each database, and it defaults to True (On).

Normally this code is used, for example, just before running an update
query, and then the warnings are turned back on with Docmd.SetWarnings True.


I suspect that you have turned warnings off at some point in your code and
then did not turn them back on. This setting persists with the database even
when it is closed and started up again.

A common cause of the problem is where warnings are turned off in code, but
then a runtime error happened and they were never turned back on. That is
why I always ensure that routines that turn off the warnings have an error
handler that turns them back on.

Lambert

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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim Hewson
Sent: Thursday, June 09, 2005 11:27 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Close object without saving


No, I found that.
What I'm looking for is the dialog box and asks if I want to save the query,
form, etc. Instead it automatically saves. Thanks Jim


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Randall R Anthony
Sent: Thursday, June 09, 2005 10:16 AM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Close object without saving

Is this what you're looking for?  Added to the end of the DoCmd. statement.

, acSaveNo
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From RRANTHON at sentara.com  Thu Jun  9 11:20:59 2005
From: RRANTHON at sentara.com (Randall R Anthony)
Date: Thu, 09 Jun 2005 12:20:59 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Close object without saving
Message-ID: <200506091621.j59GLLs04560@databaseadvisors.com>

Another way, which I don't recommend (but found out the hard way) is to
go to Tools >> Options >> Edit/Find tab and uncheck Record Changes,
Document Deletions and Action Queries check boxes.

>>> Lambert.Heenan at aig.com 6/9/2005 11:54:13 AM >>>
What you need is 

Docmd.SetWarnings True

Which you can type in the immediate window and hit enter.

This setting is specific to each database, and it defaults to True
(On).

Normally this code is used, for example, just before running an update
query, and then the warnings are turned back on with Docmd.SetWarnings
True.


I suspect that you have turned warnings off at some point in your code
and
then did not turn them back on. This setting persists with the database
even
when it is closed and started up again.

A common cause of the problem is where warnings are turned off in code,
but
then a runtime error happened and they were never turned back on. That
is
why I always ensure that routines that turn off the warnings have an
error
handler that turns them back on.

Lambert

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com 
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim Hewson
Sent: Thursday, June 09, 2005 11:27 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Close object without saving


No, I found that.
What I'm looking for is the dialog box and asks if I want to save the
query,
form, etc. Instead it automatically saves. Thanks Jim


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com 
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Anthony
Sent: Thursday, June 09, 2005 10:16 AM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com 
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Close object without saving

Is this what you're looking for?  Added to the end of the DoCmd.
statement.

, acSaveNo
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From fhtapia at gmail.com  Thu Jun  9 11:27:48 2005
From: fhtapia at gmail.com (Francisco Tapia)
Date: Thu, 9 Jun 2005 09:27:48 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Access 2003, and ADPs
In-Reply-To: <100F91B31300334B89EC531C9DCB08659F7682@tccexch01.tappeconstruction.net>
References: <100F91B31300334B89EC531C9DCB08659F7682@tccexch01.tappeconstruction.net>
Message-ID: <b874372a05060909274cd6c983@mail.gmail.com>

well I plan on deploying my next DB w/ the Access 2003 runtime... this
means that my wise installer "MUST" include the SP8 for Jet?

On 6/9/05, Brett Barabash <BBarabash at tappeconstruction.com> wrote:
> I installed it (after a lengthy search through the MS site).  If you
> don't, be prepared for non-stop nagging everytime you open a database.
> 
> Access 2003 has worked well for me, although functionality wise it is
> pretty much on par with Access 2000.
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Francisco
> Tapia
> Sent: Wednesday, June 08, 2005 7:00 PM
> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] Access 2003, and ADPs
> 
> i'm looking at this error too...
> 
> Microsoft Jet 4.0 Service Pack 8 or later must be installed to block
> unsafe expressions without affecting common functionality.
> 
> what is the concensus for this?...
> 
> On 6/8/05, Francisco Tapia <fhtapia at gmail.com> wrote:
> > huh?
> >
> > damn nobody mentioned this bug when I first asked about problems w/
> > Access 2003 (before I bought it...) I'm having buyer's remorse ;)
> >
> > I did a bit of diggin around and if I start a new db, then I can go
> > into options and choose 2002-2003 format as the default. which is
> > nice. (i hope).
> >
> > On 6/8/05, John W. Colby <jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com> wrote:
> > > I think it is just a continuation of the bug (never fixed) that
> > > prevents compacting any containers after 2K.  Thus the default is to
> 
> > > build containers in the 2K format since they can be compacted.
> > >
> > > John W. Colby
> > > www.ColbyConsulting.com
> > >
> > > Contribute your unused CPU cycles to a good cause:
> > > http://folding.stanford.edu/
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> > > [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Francisco
> 
> > > Tapia
> > > Sent: Wednesday, June 08, 2005 6:48 PM
> > > To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> > > Subject: [AccessD] Access 2003, and ADPs
> > >
> > >
> > > I just got my copy of Access 2003 along w/ the Developer
> > > Extensions... IF I open up Access 2003 and create a blank ADP, I
> > > noticed in the title
> 
> > > instead of Access 2003... did I misconfigure something?
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > -Francisco
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From BBarabash at TappeConstruction.com  Thu Jun  9 11:50:03 2005
From: BBarabash at TappeConstruction.com (Brett Barabash)
Date: Thu, 9 Jun 2005 11:50:03 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Access 2003, and ADPs
Message-ID: <100F91B31300334B89EC531C9DCB08659F76C8@tccexch01.tappeconstruction.net>

I don't have the A2003 runtime, so I don't know if it will display the
message to the end user.
Try opening a database with /runtime in the command line and see what
happens.

For all intents and purposes, the unsafe expressions vulnerability
probably won't be nearly as problematic as forcing the user to click
past a dialog that most people cannot understand.


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Francisco
Tapia
Sent: Thursday, June 09, 2005 11:28 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Access 2003, and ADPs

well I plan on deploying my next DB w/ the Access 2003 runtime... this
means that my wise installer "MUST" include the SP8 for Jet?

On 6/9/05, Brett Barabash <BBarabash at tappeconstruction.com> wrote:
> I installed it (after a lengthy search through the MS site).  If you 
> don't, be prepared for non-stop nagging everytime you open a database.
> 
> Access 2003 has worked well for me, although functionality wise it is 
> pretty much on par with Access 2000.
> 
> 
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> Tapia
> Sent: Wednesday, June 08, 2005 7:00 PM
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> Subject: Re: [AccessD] Access 2003, and ADPs
> 
> i'm looking at this error too...
> 
> Microsoft Jet 4.0 Service Pack 8 or later must be installed to block 
> unsafe expressions without affecting common functionality.
> 
> what is the concensus for this?...
> 

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From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com  Thu Jun  9 11:50:58 2005
From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (John W. Colby)
Date: Thu, 09 Jun 2005 12:50:58 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Close object without saving
In-Reply-To: <20050609153913.AED82253ACF@smtp.nildram.co.uk>
Message-ID: <005401c56d13$6d6ddd50$6c7aa8c0@ColbyM6805>

And for that reason, the Docmd.SetWarnings True should be placed immediately
in front of the (ONLY) line of code that says Exit sub.

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Sent: Thursday, June 09, 2005 11:39 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Close object without saving


Jim
I suspect that your program somewhere has done a Docmd.SetWarnings False and
not set it True again. So I'd a) put Docmd.Setwarnings True at the start of
your MDB to get it sorted, but b) try to find the offending code cos it's
going to keep happening otherwise. One thought is that the code may be
setting it False, falling into an error and the error handler doesn't set it
True again.

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Subject: RE: [AccessD] Close object without saving
Date: 09/06/05 15:27

>
> No, I found that.
> What I'm looking for is the dialog box and asks if I want to save the 
> query, form, etc. Instead it automatically saves.
> Thanks
> Jim
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
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> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Randall R 
> Anthony
> Sent: Thursday, June 09, 2005 10:16 AM
> To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] Close object without saving
>
> Is this what you're looking for?  Added to the end of the DoCmd. 
> statement.
>
> , acSaveNo
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From scapistrant at symphonyinfo.com  Thu Jun  9 12:11:41 2005
From: scapistrant at symphonyinfo.com (Steve Capistrant)
Date: Thu, 9 Jun 2005 12:11:41 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Access on Macs
Message-ID: <855499653F55AD4190B242717DF132BC082B31@dewey.Symphony.local>

I met yesterday with a prospect for our Access-based software product.
A fifth of their computers are Macs, the remainder PCs.  Based on what I
have assumed for YEARS, I noted that it won't fly with the Mac users,
unless you buy some third party emulator, and even then I've heard about
flaky behavior.

Yet they assured me that Macs can run all MS Office applications.  No
emulator.  Am I in the dark here?  Do Macs have a native MS Office
version?  If so, does it include Access?  And if so, can they work
seamlessly with an Access file generated from a PC, or is there some
format conversion that is required to create a Mac-enabled file?

Steve Capistrant
scapistrant at symphonyinfo.com
Symphony Information Services
7308 Aspen Lane North, Suite 132
Brooklyn Park, MN  55428
763-391-7400
www.symphonyinfo.com



From cfoust at infostatsystems.com  Thu Jun  9 12:19:40 2005
From: cfoust at infostatsystems.com (Charlotte Foust)
Date: Thu, 9 Jun 2005 10:19:40 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Access on Macs
Message-ID: <E61FC1D4B1918244905B113C680BEA86873A84@infoserver01.infostat.local>

Macs have a native version of Office, but it doesn't include Access,
which is strictly PC-based.  They can run Access on a PowerPC, but I
don't know if that requires using an emulator.  I have seen Access
running on a PowerPC notebook, but I quickly ran in the other direction
and didn't ask for the ugly details.

Charlotte Foust


-----Original Message-----
From: Steve Capistrant [mailto:scapistrant at symphonyinfo.com] 
Sent: Thursday, June 09, 2005 10:12 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: [AccessD] Access on Macs


I met yesterday with a prospect for our Access-based software product. A
fifth of their computers are Macs, the remainder PCs.  Based on what I
have assumed for YEARS, I noted that it won't fly with the Mac users,
unless you buy some third party emulator, and even then I've heard about
flaky behavior.

Yet they assured me that Macs can run all MS Office applications.  No
emulator.  Am I in the dark here?  Do Macs have a native MS Office
version?  If so, does it include Access?  And if so, can they work
seamlessly with an Access file generated from a PC, or is there some
format conversion that is required to create a Mac-enabled file?

Steve Capistrant
scapistrant at symphonyinfo.com
Symphony Information Services
7308 Aspen Lane North, Suite 132
Brooklyn Park, MN  55428
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From Mike.W.Gowey at doc.state.or.us  Thu Jun  9 12:34:53 2005
From: Mike.W.Gowey at doc.state.or.us (Gowey Mike W)
Date: Thu, 9 Jun 2005 11:34:53 -0600
Subject: [AccessD] Access on Macs
Message-ID: <05EBB8A3BEB95B4F8216BE4EF48607780579B4DE@srciml1.ds.doc.state.or.us>

 
I want to be able to display the value of the following select statement
on a form.  It should only find one tag number since I do not allow
duplicates.  I want to be able to see the results on the form.

     strSQL = "SELECT DISTINCT tblInventory.[DOC Tag Number+] FROM
tblInventory "
     strSQL = strSQL & " WHERE tblInventory.[DOC Tag Number+] = '" & Tag
& "'"
     strSQL = strSQL & " ORDER BY tblInventory.[DOC Tag Number+];"

Thanks in advance for any advice.

Mike Gowey  MCDST, A+, LME, NET+
Team Leader - East Region
Information Systems Unit




From garykjos at gmail.com  Thu Jun  9 12:39:40 2005
From: garykjos at gmail.com (Gary Kjos)
Date: Thu, 9 Jun 2005 12:39:40 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Access on Macs
In-Reply-To: <855499653F55AD4190B242717DF132BC082B31@dewey.Symphony.local>
References: <855499653F55AD4190B242717DF132BC082B31@dewey.Symphony.local>
Message-ID: <aea6c49505060910394bfed03@mail.gmail.com>

It was announced on Monday that next year Macs willl start using Intel
processors and will be able to run Windows....

http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,1759,1824718,00.asp

VirtualPC is a PC Emulator for the Mac
http://www.microsoft.com/mac/products/virtualpc/virtualpc.aspx?pid=virtualpc



On 6/9/05, Steve Capistrant <scapistrant at symphonyinfo.com> wrote:
> I met yesterday with a prospect for our Access-based software product.
> A fifth of their computers are Macs, the remainder PCs.  Based on what I
> have assumed for YEARS, I noted that it won't fly with the Mac users,
> unless you buy some third party emulator, and even then I've heard about
> flaky behavior.
> 
> Yet they assured me that Macs can run all MS Office applications.  No
> emulator.  Am I in the dark here?  Do Macs have a native MS Office
> version?  If so, does it include Access?  And if so, can they work
> seamlessly with an Access file generated from a PC, or is there some
> format conversion that is required to create a Mac-enabled file?
> 
> Steve Capistrant
> scapistrant at symphonyinfo.com
> Symphony Information Services
> 7308 Aspen Lane North, Suite 132
> Brooklyn Park, MN  55428
> 763-391-7400
> www.symphonyinfo.com
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From dw-murphy at cox.net  Thu Jun  9 12:43:50 2005
From: dw-murphy at cox.net (Doug Murphy)
Date: Thu, 9 Jun 2005 10:43:50 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Access on Macs
In-Reply-To: <855499653F55AD4190B242717DF132BC082B31@dewey.Symphony.local>
Message-ID: <002401c56d1a$cfadd360$c300a8c0@murphyf3vdfepi>

Steve,

To run Access on a Mac you have to do it under Windows emulation.  We have
had folks run our software, which is an Access runtime, on their Macs under
Virtual PC.  I set one of these up a couple of years ago and it wasn't a big
deal, aside from the cost to the client to get virtual PC which included the
licensed version of Windows running in Virtual PC.  Microsoft purchased
VirtualPC a while back and I can't speak to how it works now.  The two
installations I worked with ran well.  There is another Operating system
emulator program available but I can't remember the name at the moment.

Doug

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[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Steve Capistrant
Sent: Thursday, June 09, 2005 10:12 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: [AccessD] Access on Macs


I met yesterday with a prospect for our Access-based software product. A
fifth of their computers are Macs, the remainder PCs.  Based on what I have
assumed for YEARS, I noted that it won't fly with the Mac users, unless you
buy some third party emulator, and even then I've heard about flaky
behavior.

Yet they assured me that Macs can run all MS Office applications.  No
emulator.  Am I in the dark here?  Do Macs have a native MS Office version?
If so, does it include Access?  And if so, can they work seamlessly with an
Access file generated from a PC, or is there some format conversion that is
required to create a Mac-enabled file?

Steve Capistrant
scapistrant at symphonyinfo.com
Symphony Information Services
7308 Aspen Lane North, Suite 132
Brooklyn Park, MN  55428
763-391-7400
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From JHewson at karta.com  Thu Jun  9 12:46:04 2005
From: JHewson at karta.com (Jim Hewson)
Date: Thu, 9 Jun 2005 12:46:04 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Close object without saving
Message-ID: <9C382E065F54AE48BC3AA7925DCBB01C03628EF7@karta-exc-int.Karta.com>

Good point!
I'll do it.
Thanks all.
Jim 

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of John W. Colby
Sent: Thursday, June 09, 2005 11:51 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Close object without saving

And for that reason, the Docmd.SetWarnings True should be placed
immediately in front of the (ONLY) line of code that says Exit sub.

John W. Colby
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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Andy Lacey
Sent: Thursday, June 09, 2005 11:39 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Close object without saving


Jim
I suspect that your program somewhere has done a Docmd.SetWarnings False
and not set it True again. So I'd a) put Docmd.Setwarnings True at the
start of your MDB to get it sorted, but b) try to find the offending
code cos it's going to keep happening otherwise. One thought is that the
code may be setting it False, falling into an error and the error
handler doesn't set it True again.

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To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
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Subject: RE: [AccessD] Close object without saving
Date: 09/06/05 15:27

>
> No, I found that.
> What I'm looking for is the dialog box and asks if I want to save the 
> query, form, etc. Instead it automatically saves.
> Thanks
> Jim
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Randall R 
> Anthony
> Sent: Thursday, June 09, 2005 10:16 AM
> To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] Close object without saving
>
> Is this what you're looking for?  Added to the end of the DoCmd. 
> statement.
>
> , acSaveNo
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From Mike.W.Gowey at doc.state.or.us  Thu Jun  9 12:46:09 2005
From: Mike.W.Gowey at doc.state.or.us (Gowey Mike W)
Date: Thu, 9 Jun 2005 11:46:09 -0600
Subject: [AccessD] Value Retrieval
Message-ID: <05EBB8A3BEB95B4F8216BE4EF48607780579B4DF@srciml1.ds.doc.state.or.us>


I'm wondering if someone can get me out of my brain freeze:

I want to be able to display the value of the following select statement
on a form.  It should only find one tag number since I do not allow
duplicates.  I want to be able to see the results on the form.

     strSQL = "SELECT DISTINCT tblInventory.[DOC Tag Number+] FROM
tblInventory "
     strSQL = strSQL & " WHERE tblInventory.[DOC Tag Number+] = '" & Tag
& "'"
     strSQL = strSQL & " ORDER BY tblInventory.[DOC Tag Number+];"

Thanks in advance for any advice.


Mike Gowey  MCDST, A+, LME, NET+
Team Leader - East Region
Information Systems Unit




From dwaters at usinternet.com  Thu Jun  9 12:46:24 2005
From: dwaters at usinternet.com (Dan Waters)
Date: Thu, 9 Jun 2005 10:46:24 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Access on Macs
In-Reply-To: <15625217.1118337394485.JavaMail.root@sniper17>
Message-ID: <000001c56d1b$28e50750$35018e0a@danwaters>

Steve,

Macs can have a Windows emulator so it can do all that a PC can do.  There
is also an Office version that is developed for Macs without using the
emulator, but does not include Access.  Depending on what they've actually
got, they might be able to use your product!

Dan Waters


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Steve Capistrant
Sent: Thursday, June 09, 2005 10:12 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: [AccessD] Access on Macs

I met yesterday with a prospect for our Access-based software product.
A fifth of their computers are Macs, the remainder PCs.  Based on what I
have assumed for YEARS, I noted that it won't fly with the Mac users,
unless you buy some third party emulator, and even then I've heard about
flaky behavior.

Yet they assured me that Macs can run all MS Office applications.  No
emulator.  Am I in the dark here?  Do Macs have a native MS Office
version?  If so, does it include Access?  And if so, can they work
seamlessly with an Access file generated from a PC, or is there some
format conversion that is required to create a Mac-enabled file?

Steve Capistrant
scapistrant at symphonyinfo.com
Symphony Information Services
7308 Aspen Lane North, Suite 132
Brooklyn Park, MN  55428
763-391-7400
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From Lambert.Heenan at AIG.com  Thu Jun  9 12:55:16 2005
From: Lambert.Heenan at AIG.com (Heenan, Lambert)
Date: Thu, 9 Jun 2005 13:55:16 -0400 
Subject: [AccessD] Close object without saving
Message-ID: <1D7828CDB8350747AFE9D69E0E90DA1F1176BF5A@xlivmbx21.aig.com>

Like I said, I strongly suspect that at one time or another you got a
runtime error in one of your of the routines that turns the warnings off,
and that's what the corresponding line to turn them back on never executed.
That's what I meant by ensuring that your routines have error handlers, so
that the error handler will turn the warning back on regardless of what
error happened.

Lambert

-----Original Message-----
From: Jim Hewson [mailto:JHewson at karta.com] 
Sent: Thursday, June 09, 2005 12:15 PM
To: Heenan, Lambert
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Close object without saving


Thanks.
I reviewed the code and each time SetWarnings was set to false, I have
another line that turns them back on.

I'm not sure what I did, but it's working correctly now....

Thanks,
Jim 

-----Original Message-----
From: Heenan, Lambert [mailto:Lambert.Heenan at AIG.com] 
Sent: Thursday, June 09, 2005 10:54 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Cc: Jim Hewson
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Close object without saving

What you need is 

Docmd.SetWarnings True

Which you can type in the immediate window and hit enter.

This setting is specific to each database, and it defaults to True (On).

Normally this code is used, for example, just before running an update
query, and then the warnings are turned back on with Docmd.SetWarnings True.


I suspect that you have turned warnings off at some point in your code and
then did not turn them back on. This setting persists with the database even
when it is closed and started up again.

A common cause of the problem is where warnings are turned off in code, but
then a runtime error happened and they were never turned back on. That is
why I always ensure that routines that turn off the warnings have an error
handler that turns them back on.

Lambert

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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim Hewson
Sent: Thursday, June 09, 2005 11:27 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Close object without saving


No, I found that.
What I'm looking for is the dialog box and asks if I want to save the query,
form, etc. Instead it automatically saves. Thanks Jim


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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Randall R Anthony
Sent: Thursday, June 09, 2005 10:16 AM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Close object without saving

Is this what you're looking for?  Added to the end of the DoCmd. statement.

, acSaveNo
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From dwaters at usinternet.com  Thu Jun  9 13:48:07 2005
From: dwaters at usinternet.com (Dan Waters)
Date: Thu, 9 Jun 2005 11:48:07 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Value Retrieval
In-Reply-To: <21981408.1118339393758.JavaMail.root@sniper15>
Message-ID: <000001c56d23$c789b1a0$35018e0a@danwaters>

Mike,

1) You have an unneeded space at the end of FROM tblInventory.
2) Check the rules on field names - is a + sign usable?
3) Try running this without DISTINCT to see if it works then.

HTH!

Dan Waters

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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gowey Mike W
Sent: Thursday, June 09, 2005 10:46 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: [AccessD] Value Retrieval


I'm wondering if someone can get me out of my brain freeze:

I want to be able to display the value of the following select statement
on a form.  It should only find one tag number since I do not allow
duplicates.  I want to be able to see the results on the form.

     strSQL = "SELECT DISTINCT tblInventory.[DOC Tag Number+] FROM
tblInventory "
     strSQL = strSQL & " WHERE tblInventory.[DOC Tag Number+] = '" & Tag
& "'"
     strSQL = strSQL & " ORDER BY tblInventory.[DOC Tag Number+];"

Thanks in advance for any advice.


Mike Gowey  MCDST, A+, LME, NET+
Team Leader - East Region
Information Systems Unit


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From martyconnelly at shaw.ca  Thu Jun  9 13:57:27 2005
From: martyconnelly at shaw.ca (MartyConnelly)
Date: Thu, 09 Jun 2005 11:57:27 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Replication Manager
References: <E61FC1D4B1918244905B113C680BEA86873A7B@infoserver01.infostat.local>
Message-ID: <42A89117.80808@shaw.ca>

According to Michael Kaplan's posts dating to last june, it is not 
included as of that date
However you can install the synchronizer with the special extra Jet SP 
8.0 replication upgrade
and then use JRO code, Getz has a couple of hundred pages on vba jro 
coding in one of his ADH
books 2000 or 2002 vol 2.
I don't have the latest VSTO to check for sure.

Charlotte Foust wrote:

>It may be in VSTO, along with the rest of the developer tools for
>Access.
>
>Charlotte Foust
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: MartyConnelly [mailto:martyconnelly at shaw.ca] 
>Sent: Tuesday, June 07, 2005 9:25 AM
>To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
>Subject: Re: [AccessD] Replication Manager
>
>
>RepMan 4.0  is on the Office XP Developers Edition, not the Pro Edition,
>funnily enough there is no RepMan for 2003. I don't know what you do
>here use VB.Net and JRO or old version of 
>RepMan with Access 2003
>
>Documentation within MS-Access 2003 states that this tool is still 
>required to setup Internet replicated Access databases.
>http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;828089
>
> so, unless you have that RepMan from XP
>.... you need to write your own using JRO or use a tool like TSI 
>Synchronizer http://www.trigeminal.com/repl-ication/synch.asp?1033
>
>Note that this is not really true, either -- the TSI Synchronizer
>depends upon you having the Jet Synchronizer (which comes with
>Replication 
>Manager).
>
>You do not need Replication Manager to use all forms of Jet replication.
>
>Replication
>Manager is a tool for implementing certain advanced replication
>functionalities such as synchronizer configuration for indirect or
>internet replication or for changing the the retention period of a
>replication set. Also, you do not need to have a copy of Replication
>Manager on every computer (and probably shouldn't) since it is only an
>administrators tool. Anything that can be done with Replication manager
>can also be accomplished using DAO or JRO code
>
>Jet 8 SP has a seperate update for replication
>
>http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?kbid=321076
>
>This shows installation procedures for RepMan
>
>Internet Synchronization with the Microsoft Jet Database Engine: A 
>Technical Overview
>http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/default.asp?url=/library/en-us/dnacc2k
>/html/intrjet4.asp
>
>Make sure you have read the replication faq and understand indirect and 
>direct synchronization
>
>http://support.microsoft.com/kb/q282977/
>
>Here's some DAO code to illustrate a basic synchronization process of BE
>
>over a Lan...
>'Courtesy Lambert Heenan
>Private Sub btnUpdateMaster_Click()
>Dim msg As String
>Dim sReplicaDb As Variant
>Dim sMainStore As String
>Dim db As Database
>
>    On Error GoTo btnUpdateMaster_err
>    'First get the path to the replica file we will synch. with.
>    msg = "This procedure will update the MASTER database with one or
>more replica databases.@"
>    msg = msg & "Do you with to continue?@"
>    If MsgBox(msg, vbYesNo Or vbQuestion, "Synchronize Master Database")
>= vbYes Then
>
>        sReplicaDb = sDataToSynchFrom() '
>
>' sDataToSynchFrom() is a function that returns the full path to an MDB
>file
>
>        If sReplicaDb & "" = ""  Then Exit Sub
>        sMainStore = GetAttachedDbName(GetFirstAttachedtable)
>
>' GetAttachedDbName() is a function that returns the full path to the
>back end database ' given the name of one of the linked tables
>
>        ' sanity check
>        If sMainStore = sReplicaDb Then
>            MsgBox "Cannot synchronize your main data file with
>itself. at Please select the correct replica data file to synchronize
>with.@", , "Invalid data file selected"
>            Exit Sub
>        End If
>        DoCmd.Hourglass True
>' here is where the synchronization takes place
>        Set db = OpenDatabase(sMainStore)
>' this does a one-way synchronizatin - just importing changes in the
>data. ' you can also do two way using the constant "dbRepImpExpChanges"
>        db.Synchronize sReplicaDb, dbRepImportChanges
>        RenameSynchedFile CStr(sReplicaDb)
>        DoCmd.Hourglass False
>        MsgBox "Synchronization completed", , "Synchronize Master
>Database"
>    End If
>btnUpdateMaster_Click_Exit:
>    Set db = Nothing
>    Exit Sub
>btnUpdateMaster_err:
>    DoCmd.Hourglass False
>' put your favorite error handler here
>    MsgBox "Error synchronizing with " & sReplicaDb & "@" &
>Err.Description & "@Error number " & Err.Number
>    Resume btnUpdateMaster_Click_Exit
>End Sub
>
>
>Barbara Ryan wrote:
>
>  
>
>>Where I can I find Replication Manager for Access 2002?  Is it a 
>>separate interface from the Replication option under Tools in Access 
>>2002?  I can't seem to locate it on the Office XP Pro installation CD.
>>
>>Thanks,
>>Barb Ryan
>> 
>>
>>    
>>
>
>  
>

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Canada





From fhtapia at gmail.com  Thu Jun  9 13:59:32 2005
From: fhtapia at gmail.com (Francisco Tapia)
Date: Thu, 9 Jun 2005 11:59:32 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Access 2003, and ADPs
In-Reply-To: <100F91B31300334B89EC531C9DCB08659F76C8@tccexch01.tappeconstruction.net>
References: <100F91B31300334B89EC531C9DCB08659F76C8@tccexch01.tappeconstruction.net>
Message-ID: <b874372a050609115941fffad6@mail.gmail.com>

I tried the typical /Runtime, apperenatly this is not a valid command
anymore.. anyone know for sure?


On 6/9/05, Brett Barabash <BBarabash at tappeconstruction.com> wrote:
> I don't have the A2003 runtime, so I don't know if it will display the
> message to the end user.
> Try opening a database with /runtime in the command line and see what
> happens.
> 
> For all intents and purposes, the unsafe expressions vulnerability
> probably won't be nearly as problematic as forcing the user to click
> past a dialog that most people cannot understand.
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Francisco
> Tapia
> Sent: Thursday, June 09, 2005 11:28 AM
> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] Access 2003, and ADPs
> 
> well I plan on deploying my next DB w/ the Access 2003 runtime... this
> means that my wise installer "MUST" include the SP8 for Jet?
> 
> On 6/9/05, Brett Barabash <BBarabash at tappeconstruction.com> wrote:
> > I installed it (after a lengthy search through the MS site).  If you
> > don't, be prepared for non-stop nagging everytime you open a database.
> >
> > Access 2003 has worked well for me, although functionality wise it is
> > pretty much on par with Access 2000.
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> > [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Francisco
> > Tapia
> > Sent: Wednesday, June 08, 2005 7:00 PM
> > To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> > Subject: Re: [AccessD] Access 2003, and ADPs
> >
> > i'm looking at this error too...
> >
> > Microsoft Jet 4.0 Service Pack 8 or later must be installed to block
> > unsafe expressions without affecting common functionality.
> >
> > what is the concensus for this?...
> >
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From rbgajewski at adelphia.net  Thu Jun  9 14:09:59 2005
From: rbgajewski at adelphia.net (Bob Gajewski)
Date: Thu, 9 Jun 2005 15:09:59 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Value Retrieval
In-Reply-To: <000001c56d23$c789b1a0$35018e0a@danwaters>
Message-ID: <20050609190756.WFQA4191.mta13.adelphia.net@DG1P2N21>

Mike

I may be missing something, but if this can return one and only one record,
why are you using an ORDER BY clause?

Bob Gajewski 

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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Dan Waters
Sent: Thursday, June 09, 2005 14:48 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Value Retrieval

Mike,

1) You have an unneeded space at the end of FROM tblInventory.
2) Check the rules on field names - is a + sign usable?
3) Try running this without DISTINCT to see if it works then.

HTH!

Dan Waters

-----Original Message-----
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Sent: Thursday, June 09, 2005 10:46 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: [AccessD] Value Retrieval


I'm wondering if someone can get me out of my brain freeze:

I want to be able to display the value of the following select statement on
a form.  It should only find one tag number since I do not allow duplicates.
I want to be able to see the results on the form.

     strSQL = "SELECT DISTINCT tblInventory.[DOC Tag Number+] FROM
tblInventory "
     strSQL = strSQL & " WHERE tblInventory.[DOC Tag Number+] = '" & Tag &
"'"
     strSQL = strSQL & " ORDER BY tblInventory.[DOC Tag Number+];"

Thanks in advance for any advice.


Mike Gowey  MCDST, A+, LME, NET+
Team Leader - East Region
Information Systems Unit


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From accessd at shaw.ca  Thu Jun  9 14:08:09 2005
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Thu, 09 Jun 2005 12:08:09 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Website down?
In-Reply-To: <00a901c56c89$d72c2100$6601a8c0@user>
Message-ID: <0IHT0056AZTITH@l-daemon>

Hi Kath:

I was away in another city yesterday but everything is working fine today.

Jim

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Sent: Wednesday, June 08, 2005 5:26 PM
To: AccessD at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [AccessD] Website down?

Hi all - is the website down? I'm trying to get at the archive and having no
luck......

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From BBarabash at TappeConstruction.com  Thu Jun  9 14:14:19 2005
From: BBarabash at TappeConstruction.com (Brett Barabash)
Date: Thu, 9 Jun 2005 14:14:19 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Access 2003, and ADPs
Message-ID: <100F91B31300334B89EC531C9DCB08659F7712@tccexch01.tappeconstruction.net>

I have A2003 on this machine, and from the Run menu typed msaccess
/runtime.  
It definitely opened in runtime mode (no window caption and it gave the
missing application filename message).

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Francisco
Tapia
Sent: Thursday, June 09, 2005 2:00 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Access 2003, and ADPs

I tried the typical /Runtime, apperenatly this is not a valid command
anymore.. anyone know for sure?


On 6/9/05, Brett Barabash <BBarabash at tappeconstruction.com> wrote:
> I don't have the A2003 runtime, so I don't know if it will display the

> message to the end user.
> Try opening a database with /runtime in the command line and see what 
> happens.
> 
> For all intents and purposes, the unsafe expressions vulnerability 
> probably won't be nearly as problematic as forcing the user to click 
> past a dialog that most people cannot understand.
> 
> 

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From cfoust at infostatsystems.com  Thu Jun  9 14:58:08 2005
From: cfoust at infostatsystems.com (Charlotte Foust)
Date: Thu, 9 Jun 2005 12:58:08 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Replication Manager
Message-ID: <E61FC1D4B1918244905B113C680BEA86873A88@infoserver01.infostat.local>

I bow to your research.  I am working primarily in .Net now, so I don't
even HAVE Access 2003.

Charlotte Foust


-----Original Message-----
From: MartyConnelly [mailto:martyconnelly at shaw.ca] 
Sent: Thursday, June 09, 2005 11:57 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Replication Manager


According to Michael Kaplan's posts dating to last june, it is not 
included as of that date
However you can install the synchronizer with the special extra Jet SP 
8.0 replication upgrade
and then use JRO code, Getz has a couple of hundred pages on vba jro 
coding in one of his ADH
books 2000 or 2002 vol 2.
I don't have the latest VSTO to check for sure.

Charlotte Foust wrote:

>It may be in VSTO, along with the rest of the developer tools for 
>Access.
>
>Charlotte Foust
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: MartyConnelly [mailto:martyconnelly at shaw.ca]
>Sent: Tuesday, June 07, 2005 9:25 AM
>To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
>Subject: Re: [AccessD] Replication Manager
>
>
>RepMan 4.0  is on the Office XP Developers Edition, not the Pro 
>Edition, funnily enough there is no RepMan for 2003. I don't know what 
>you do here use VB.Net and JRO or old version of RepMan with Access 
>2003
>
>Documentation within MS-Access 2003 states that this tool is still
>required to setup Internet replicated Access databases.
>http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;828089
>
> so, unless you have that RepMan from XP
>.... you need to write your own using JRO or use a tool like TSI
>Synchronizer http://www.trigeminal.com/repl-ication/synch.asp?1033
>
>Note that this is not really true, either -- the TSI Synchronizer 
>depends upon you having the Jet Synchronizer (which comes with 
>Replication Manager).
>
>You do not need Replication Manager to use all forms of Jet 
>replication.
>
>Replication
>Manager is a tool for implementing certain advanced replication 
>functionalities such as synchronizer configuration for indirect or 
>internet replication or for changing the the retention period of a 
>replication set. Also, you do not need to have a copy of Replication 
>Manager on every computer (and probably shouldn't) since it is only an 
>administrators tool. Anything that can be done with Replication manager

>can also be accomplished using DAO or JRO code
>
>Jet 8 SP has a seperate update for replication
>
>http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?kbid=321076
>
>This shows installation procedures for RepMan
>
>Internet Synchronization with the Microsoft Jet Database Engine: A
>Technical Overview
>http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/default.asp?url=/library/en-us/dnacc2
k
>/html/intrjet4.asp
>
>Make sure you have read the replication faq and understand indirect and
>direct synchronization
>
>http://support.microsoft.com/kb/q282977/
>
>Here's some DAO code to illustrate a basic synchronization process of 
>BE
>
>over a Lan...
>'Courtesy Lambert Heenan
>Private Sub btnUpdateMaster_Click()
>Dim msg As String
>Dim sReplicaDb As Variant
>Dim sMainStore As String
>Dim db As Database
>
>    On Error GoTo btnUpdateMaster_err
>    'First get the path to the replica file we will synch. with.
>    msg = "This procedure will update the MASTER database with one or 
>more replica databases.@"
>    msg = msg & "Do you with to continue?@"
>    If MsgBox(msg, vbYesNo Or vbQuestion, "Synchronize Master 
>Database") = vbYes Then
>
>        sReplicaDb = sDataToSynchFrom() '
>
>' sDataToSynchFrom() is a function that returns the full path to an MDB

>file
>
>        If sReplicaDb & "" = ""  Then Exit Sub
>        sMainStore = GetAttachedDbName(GetFirstAttachedtable)
>
>' GetAttachedDbName() is a function that returns the full path to the 
>back end database ' given the name of one of the linked tables
>
>        ' sanity check
>        If sMainStore = sReplicaDb Then
>            MsgBox "Cannot synchronize your main data file with 
>itself. at Please select the correct replica data file to synchronize 
>with.@", , "Invalid data file selected"
>            Exit Sub
>        End If
>        DoCmd.Hourglass True
>' here is where the synchronization takes place
>        Set db = OpenDatabase(sMainStore)
>' this does a one-way synchronizatin - just importing changes in the 
>data. ' you can also do two way using the constant "dbRepImpExpChanges"
>        db.Synchronize sReplicaDb, dbRepImportChanges
>        RenameSynchedFile CStr(sReplicaDb)
>        DoCmd.Hourglass False
>        MsgBox "Synchronization completed", , "Synchronize Master 
>Database"
>    End If
>btnUpdateMaster_Click_Exit:
>    Set db = Nothing
>    Exit Sub
>btnUpdateMaster_err:
>    DoCmd.Hourglass False
>' put your favorite error handler here
>    MsgBox "Error synchronizing with " & sReplicaDb & "@" & 
>Err.Description & "@Error number " & Err.Number
>    Resume btnUpdateMaster_Click_Exit
>End Sub
>
>
>Barbara Ryan wrote:
>
>  
>
>>Where I can I find Replication Manager for Access 2002?  Is it a
>>separate interface from the Replication option under Tools in Access 
>>2002?  I can't seem to locate it on the Office XP Pro installation CD.
>>
>>Thanks,
>>Barb Ryan
>> 
>>
>>    
>>
>
>  
>

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From cfoust at infostatsystems.com  Thu Jun  9 15:00:13 2005
From: cfoust at infostatsystems.com (Charlotte Foust)
Date: Thu, 9 Jun 2005 13:00:13 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Access on Macs
Message-ID: <E61FC1D4B1918244905B113C680BEA86873A89@infoserver01.infostat.local>

Are you sure you have the right subject on this post?

Charlotte Foust


-----Original Message-----
From: Gowey Mike W [mailto:Mike.W.Gowey at doc.state.or.us] 
Sent: Thursday, June 09, 2005 10:35 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Access on Macs


 
I want to be able to display the value of the following select statement
on a form.  It should only find one tag number since I do not allow
duplicates.  I want to be able to see the results on the form.

     strSQL = "SELECT DISTINCT tblInventory.[DOC Tag Number+] FROM
tblInventory "
     strSQL = strSQL & " WHERE tblInventory.[DOC Tag Number+] = '" & Tag
& "'"
     strSQL = strSQL & " ORDER BY tblInventory.[DOC Tag Number+];"

Thanks in advance for any advice.

Mike Gowey  MCDST, A+, LME, NET+
Team Leader - East Region
Information Systems Unit


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From fhtapia at gmail.com  Thu Jun  9 15:08:37 2005
From: fhtapia at gmail.com (Francisco Tapia)
Date: Thu, 9 Jun 2005 13:08:37 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Access 2003, and ADPs
In-Reply-To: <100F91B31300334B89EC531C9DCB08659F7712@tccexch01.tappeconstruction.net>
References: <100F91B31300334B89EC531C9DCB08659F7712@tccexch01.tappeconstruction.net>
Message-ID: <b874372a050609130837287498@mail.gmail.com>

haha, i'm starting to feel like a dumbass w/ this new version...
lol...I had mistyped RUNTIME go figure... ... so I load it as a
runtime and yes I still get the JET 4 sp8 error message.. only not as
dramatic as the normal access boot up.


On 6/9/05, Brett Barabash <BBarabash at tappeconstruction.com> wrote:
> I have A2003 on this machine, and from the Run menu typed msaccess
> /runtime.
> It definitely opened in runtime mode (no window caption and it gave the
> missing application filename message).
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Francisco
> Tapia
> Sent: Thursday, June 09, 2005 2:00 PM
> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] Access 2003, and ADPs
> 
> I tried the typical /Runtime, apperenatly this is not a valid command
> anymore.. anyone know for sure?
> 
> 
> On 6/9/05, Brett Barabash <BBarabash at tappeconstruction.com> wrote:
> > I don't have the A2003 runtime, so I don't know if it will display the
> 
> > message to the end user.
> > Try opening a database with /runtime in the command line and see what
> > happens.
> >
> > For all intents and purposes, the unsafe expressions vulnerability
> > probably won't be nearly as problematic as forcing the user to click
> > past a dialog that most people cannot understand.
> >
> >


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From BBarabash at TappeConstruction.com  Thu Jun  9 15:35:45 2005
From: BBarabash at TappeConstruction.com (Brett Barabash)
Date: Thu, 9 Jun 2005 15:35:45 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Access 2003, and ADPs
Message-ID: <100F91B31300334B89EC531C9DCB08659F773D@tccexch01.tappeconstruction.net>

Hmm... You would think that AutoCorrect would fix the misspelling ;-)  
Perhaps the next version?

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Francisco
Tapia
Sent: Thursday, June 09, 2005 3:09 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Access 2003, and ADPs


haha, i'm starting to feel like a dumbass w/ this new version...
lol...I had mistyped RUNTIME go figure... ... so I load it as a runtime
and yes I still get the JET 4 sp8 error message.. only not as dramatic
as the normal access boot up.



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From KP at sdsonline.net  Thu Jun  9 17:33:21 2005
From: KP at sdsonline.net (Kath Pelletti)
Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2005 08:33:21 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] Website down?
References: <0IHT0056AZTITH@l-daemon>
Message-ID: <003001c56d43$3e7ea210$6601a8c0@user>

Thanks Jim
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Jim Lawrence 
  To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' 
  Sent: Friday, June 10, 2005 5:08 AM
  Subject: RE: [AccessD] Website down?


  Hi Kath:

  I was away in another city yesterday but everything is working fine today.

  Jim

  -----Original Message-----
  From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
  [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Kath Pelletti
  Sent: Wednesday, June 08, 2005 5:26 PM
  To: AccessD at databaseadvisors.com
  Subject: [AccessD] Website down?

  Hi all - is the website down? I'm trying to get at the archive and having no
  luck......

  ______________________________________________
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From KP at sdsonline.net  Thu Jun  9 17:33:44 2005
From: KP at sdsonline.net (Kath Pelletti)
Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2005 08:33:44 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] Website / archive / error loading picture
References: <003c01c56c8e$4d024f40$6601a8c0@user> <42A7CF49.9020801@shaw.ca>
Message-ID: <003a01c56d43$4ba38050$6601a8c0@user>

Thanks Marty - I will try this out tomorrow - 

rgds
Kath
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: MartyConnelly 
  To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving 
  Sent: Thursday, June 09, 2005 3:10 PM
  Subject: Re: [AccessD] Website / archive / error loading picture


  I know it coughs on jpeg but sometimes just changing extension to jpg works
  You need a full install of office I think, If not this works

  http://www.lebans.com/loadjpeg?gif.htm
  A97LoadJpegGif.zip is a database containing a function to allow for the
  Display of Jpeg and Gif files on systems that do not have the Office
  Graphic Filters installed.  Here is the A2K version: A2KLoadJpegGif.zip


  NEW - April 05 2003 Ver 5.0 Developed to allow Access RunTime
  installations to display Jpeg files in a standard Image Control.
  Provides functionality to load JPG,GIF,BMP,EMF,WMF,CUR and ICO  files on
  systems without the Office Graphics Filters loaded.
  Originally developed for Systems with Access Runtime only.  Supports
  transparency in Transparent Gifs.  Allows you to resize Images on
  Forms/Reports at runtime  with no loss of Image quality.



  Kath Pelletti wrote:

  >I take it back - when I access the archive it doesnt seem to give me the full history. (I have an idea that this topic may have been covered before..)
  >
  >In the interim, could someone help with an error 2114.
  >
  >Situation is existing client with 4 workstations - 1 was replaced this week - Windows XP Pro re-installed, Office 2000 re-installed.
  >
  >When the user opens a form which attempts to load a .jpg or .gif picture the system come up with "...the database doesn't support the format of 
  >'E:\Database\Photos\Peru.jpg' so it can't load the picture.
  >
  >Google brought up a few instances of developers getting this error where the graphics filters in Office haven't been installed. I have gone in to the setup of Office on that PC and re-installed the graphics filters but I am still getting the error.
  >
  >Can anyone help ?
  >
  >______________________________________________
  >Kath Pelletti
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From KP at sdsonline.net  Thu Jun  9 19:22:21 2005
From: KP at sdsonline.net (Kath Pelletti)
Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2005 10:22:21 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] Australia - find nearest location
Message-ID: <000a01c56d52$78a71990$6601a8c0@user>

Hi all - Just wondering whether there happens to be anyone on list who may already have done this - 

I'm writing a new system for a training company and they want add a geographic search capability - ie. they would like to enter a suburb or postcode and the system displays will show the courses which run closest to them geographically.

Any tips? Or if anyone has done this at all - can you tell me what your approach was?

Thanks - rgds

______________________________________________
Kath Pelletti
Software Design & Solutions Pty Ltd.
Ph: 9505-6714
Fax: 9505-6430
KP at SDSOnline.net

From michael at ddisolutions.com.au  Thu Jun  9 19:48:28 2005
From: michael at ddisolutions.com.au (Michael Maddison)
Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2005 10:48:28 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] Australia - find nearest location
Message-ID: <59A61174B1F5B54B97FD4ADDE71E7D010E4CA3@ddi-01.DDI.local>

Never tried myself, but the discussions here recently on MapPoint might
lead the way.

cheers

Michael M

Hi all - Just wondering whether there happens to be anyone on list who
may already have done this - 

I'm writing a new system for a training company and they want add a
geographic search capability - ie. they would like to enter a suburb or
postcode and the system displays will show the courses which run closest
to them geographically.

Any tips? Or if anyone has done this at all - can you tell me what your
approach was?

Thanks - rgds

______________________________________________
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Software Design & Solutions Pty Ltd.
Ph: 9505-6714
Fax: 9505-6430
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From Mark.Porter at acsalaska.com  Thu Jun  9 20:33:44 2005
From: Mark.Porter at acsalaska.com (Porter, Mark)
Date: Thu, 9 Jun 2005 17:33:44 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] Australia - find nearest location
Message-ID: <635B80FE6C7D5A409586A6A110D97D17A20A9F@ACSANCHOR.corp.acsalaska.com>

They have been doing neat things with Google Maps, maybe something here
will lead you to what you are looking for:

http://www.cnn.com/2005/TECH/internet/06/09/google.map.hacks.ap/index.ht
ml


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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Michael
Maddison
Sent: Thursday, June 09, 2005 4:48 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Australia - find nearest location

Never tried myself, but the discussions here recently on MapPoint might
lead the way.

cheers

Michael M

Hi all - Just wondering whether there happens to be anyone on list who
may already have done this - 

I'm writing a new system for a training company and they want add a
geographic search capability - ie. they would like to enter a suburb or
postcode and the system displays will show the courses which run closest
to them geographically.

Any tips? Or if anyone has done this at all - can you tell me what your
approach was?

Thanks - rgds

______________________________________________
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Software Design & Solutions Pty Ltd.
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Fax: 9505-6430
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From Bruce.Bruen at railcorp.nsw.gov.au  Thu Jun  9 21:08:38 2005
From: Bruce.Bruen at railcorp.nsw.gov.au (Bruen, Bruce)
Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2005 12:08:38 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] Generating a rownumber field in a query
Message-ID: <F2BE8EAB3EA585418337B71BCE6F3BF304EBB3@msmet100.rail.nsw.gov.au>

Hi folks,
 
I want to output a sequence number as a field in a query result.
Everytime the query runs it should restart the sequence number from 1.
 
The query appends rows to a "testscript" table, every new test cycle we
generate a new set of test scripts which is made up of all the tests in
the previous cycle plus new tests that were added during the execution
of the last cycle.  The natural key for the output table is the cycle
number + the sequence number.
 
Cycle    Seq    Testname .....   
   1          1        blah
   1          2        blah blah
...
   2          1        blah blah
   2          2        blah blah blah
etc
 
The cycle number is input as a parameter to the append query.  But how
can I generate the sequence numbers?
 
tia
bruce
 
 
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From Bruce.Bruen at railcorp.nsw.gov.au  Thu Jun  9 21:25:26 2005
From: Bruce.Bruen at railcorp.nsw.gov.au (Bruen, Bruce)
Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2005 12:25:26 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] A2K: How to change subform view
Message-ID: <F2BE8EAB3EA585418337B71BCE6F3BF304EBB4@msmet100.rail.nsw.gov.au>

Hi guys again,
 
Memory has failed me.  In Access 2000, what is the code trick to change
the subform view from datasheet to normal?  
The following 2003 code does not work.
 
Private Sub Test_DblClick(Cancel As Integer)
    DoCmd.RunCommand acCmdSubformFormView
End Sub
 
tia
bruce
 
 
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From mmattys at rochester.rr.com  Thu Jun  9 21:37:58 2005
From: mmattys at rochester.rr.com (Michael R Mattys)
Date: Thu, 9 Jun 2005 22:37:58 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] A2K: How to change subform view
References: <F2BE8EAB3EA585418337B71BCE6F3BF304EBB4@msmet100.rail.nsw.gov.au>
Message-ID: <00c801c56d65$6d454d70$0202a8c0@default>

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Bruen, Bruce" <Bruce.Bruen at railcorp.nsw.gov.au>
To: <AccessD at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Thursday, June 09, 2005 10:25 PM
Subject: [AccessD] A2K: How to change subform view


Hi guys again,
 
Memory has failed me.  In Access 2000, what is the code trick to change
the subform view from datasheet to normal?  
The following 2003 code does not work.
 
Private Sub Test_DblClick(Cancel As Integer)
    DoCmd.RunCommand acCmdSubformFormView
End Sub
--------- 

bruce
 
    'Form to Datasheet (It's a subform)
    If Me.Customers.Form.CurrentView = 1 Then
        Me.Customers.SetFocus
        DoCmd.RunCommand acCmdSubformDatasheet
    End If

    'Datasheet to Form
    If Me.Customers.Form.CurrentView = 2 Then
        Me.Customers.SetFocus
        DoCmd.RunCommand acCmdSubformDatasheet
    End If

----

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Mattys MapLib for Microsoft MapPoint 
http://www.mattysconsulting.com


From KP at sdsonline.net  Thu Jun  9 21:46:22 2005
From: KP at sdsonline.net (Kath Pelletti)
Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2005 12:46:22 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] Australia - find nearest location
References: <635B80FE6C7D5A409586A6A110D97D17A20A9F@ACSANCHOR.corp.acsalaska.com>
Message-ID: <007a01c56d66$9683a9b0$6601a8c0@user>

It's a very hot topic at the moment....thanks Mark
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Porter, Mark 
  To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving 
  Sent: Friday, June 10, 2005 11:33 AM
  Subject: RE: [AccessD] Australia - find nearest location


  They have been doing neat things with Google Maps, maybe something here
  will lead you to what you are looking for:

  http://www.cnn.com/2005/TECH/internet/06/09/google.map.hacks.ap/index.ht
  ml


  -----Original Message-----
  From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
  [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Michael
  Maddison
  Sent: Thursday, June 09, 2005 4:48 PM
  To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
  Subject: RE: [AccessD] Australia - find nearest location

  Never tried myself, but the discussions here recently on MapPoint might
  lead the way.

  cheers

  Michael M

  Hi all - Just wondering whether there happens to be anyone on list who
  may already have done this - 

  I'm writing a new system for a training company and they want add a
  geographic search capability - ie. they would like to enter a suburb or
  postcode and the system displays will show the courses which run closest
  to them geographically.

  Any tips? Or if anyone has done this at all - can you tell me what your
  approach was?

  Thanks - rgds

  ______________________________________________
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  Software Design & Solutions Pty Ltd.
  Ph: 9505-6714
  Fax: 9505-6430
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From Bruce.Bruen at railcorp.nsw.gov.au  Fri Jun 10 00:54:50 2005
From: Bruce.Bruen at railcorp.nsw.gov.au (Bruen, Bruce)
Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2005 15:54:50 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] A2K: How to change subform view
Message-ID: <F2BE8EAB3EA585418337B71BCE6F3BF304EBB5@msmet100.rail.nsw.gov.au>

Michael,

Both your Docmds are the same?????


bruce 

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Mattys
Sent: Friday, 10 June 2005 12:38 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] A2K: How to change subform view

----- Original Message -----
From: "Bruen, Bruce" <Bruce.Bruen at railcorp.nsw.gov.au>
To: <AccessD at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Thursday, June 09, 2005 10:25 PM
Subject: [AccessD] A2K: How to change subform view


Hi guys again,
 
Memory has failed me.  In Access 2000, what is the code trick to change
the subform view from datasheet to normal?  
The following 2003 code does not work.
 
Private Sub Test_DblClick(Cancel As Integer)
    DoCmd.RunCommand acCmdSubformFormView
End Sub
--------- 

bruce
 
    'Form to Datasheet (It's a subform)
    If Me.Customers.Form.CurrentView = 1 Then
        Me.Customers.SetFocus
        DoCmd.RunCommand acCmdSubformDatasheet
    End If

    'Datasheet to Form
    If Me.Customers.Form.CurrentView = 2 Then
        Me.Customers.SetFocus
        DoCmd.RunCommand acCmdSubformDatasheet
    End If

----

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From mmattys at rochester.rr.com  Fri Jun 10 06:23:39 2005
From: mmattys at rochester.rr.com (Michael R Mattys)
Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2005 07:23:39 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] A2K: How to change subform view
References: <F2BE8EAB3EA585418337B71BCE6F3BF304EBB5@msmet100.rail.nsw.gov.au>
Message-ID: <008601c56dae$db1746c0$0202a8c0@default>

Hi Bruce,

It was not a mistake.
That's how it works.

----

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Bruen, Bruce" <Bruce.Bruen at railcorp.nsw.gov.au>
To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving"
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Friday, June 10, 2005 1:54 AM
Subject: RE: [AccessD] A2K: How to change subform view


> Michael,
>
> Both your Docmds are the same?????
>
>
> bruce
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Michael R
> Mattys
> Sent: Friday, 10 June 2005 12:38 PM
> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] A2K: How to change subform view
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Bruen, Bruce" <Bruce.Bruen at railcorp.nsw.gov.au>
> To: <AccessD at databaseadvisors.com>
> Sent: Thursday, June 09, 2005 10:25 PM
> Subject: [AccessD] A2K: How to change subform view
>
>
> Hi guys again,
>
> Memory has failed me.  In Access 2000, what is the code trick to change
> the subform view from datasheet to normal?
> The following 2003 code does not work.
>
> Private Sub Test_DblClick(Cancel As Integer)
>     DoCmd.RunCommand acCmdSubformFormView
> End Sub
> ---------
>
> bruce
>
>     'Form to Datasheet (It's a subform)
>     If Me.Customers.Form.CurrentView = 1 Then
>         Me.Customers.SetFocus
>         DoCmd.RunCommand acCmdSubformDatasheet
>     End If
>
>     'Datasheet to Form
>     If Me.Customers.Form.CurrentView = 2 Then
>         Me.Customers.SetFocus
>         DoCmd.RunCommand acCmdSubformDatasheet
>     End If
>
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>
> Michael R. Mattys
> Mattys MapLib for Microsoft MapPoint
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From JHewson at karta.com  Fri Jun 10 07:42:02 2005
From: JHewson at karta.com (Jim Hewson)
Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2005 07:42:02 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Generating a rownumber field in a query
Message-ID: <9C382E065F54AE48BC3AA7925DCBB01C03628F6C@karta-exc-int.Karta.com>

If the results of the query will be used for a report, you don't need
the sequence number from the query.
Use the Group Header in the report to separate the Cycle numbers.
Put a text box in the detail section with "=1" in the Control Source.
Over Group should designated for the Running Sum.
Each time the report is run, the group sequence number is regenerated...
HTH.
Jim

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Bruen, Bruce
Sent: Thursday, June 09, 2005 9:09 PM
To: AccessD at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [AccessD] Generating a rownumber field in a query

Hi folks,
 
I want to output a sequence number as a field in a query result.
Everytime the query runs it should restart the sequence number from 1.
 
The query appends rows to a "testscript" table, every new test cycle we
generate a new set of test scripts which is made up of all the tests in
the previous cycle plus new tests that were added during the execution
of the last cycle.  The natural key for the output table is the cycle
number + the sequence number.
 
Cycle    Seq    Testname .....   
   1          1        blah
   1          2        blah blah
...
   2          1        blah blah
   2          2        blah blah blah
etc
 
The cycle number is input as a parameter to the append query.  But how
can I generate the sequence numbers?
 
tia
bruce
 
 
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From bheygood at abestsystems.com  Fri Jun 10 09:01:24 2005
From: bheygood at abestsystems.com (Bob Heygood)
Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2005 07:01:24 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Scrape Word Part II
In-Reply-To: <6A6AA9DF57E4F046BDA1E273BDDB6772337644@corp-es01.fleetpride.com>
Message-ID: <AIEKKBIAKDJNAFGABNJKOECDCNAA.bheygood@abestsystems.com>

thanks Jim.
I have looked before at Helen's code. Lots of great stuff there.

bob



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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Hale, Jim
Sent: Wednesday, June 08, 2005 8:17 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Scrape Word Part II


At the very bottom of this link Helen Feddema has some code that may help
you.
http://www.helenfeddema.com/CodeSamples.htm

Jim Hale

-----Original Message-----
From: Bob Heygood [mailto:bheygood at abestsystems.com]
Sent: Wednesday, June 08, 2005 8:35 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: [AccessD] Scrape Word Part II


Hello to the list,

Well, my project is alive again. This time I have the luxury of being able
to create the Word document from which I need to cull the info. I still need
to have a Word table but I can create bookmarks or whatever within the table
in the document.
To recap I need to import 10 pieces of text from a Word document and store
them in a mdb table.
Jim Hale's code below worked really good except that we were pressed for
time and did not ever get it to work in all areas of the Word doc.
So my first question is how to search the Word doc to find the text,
bookmarks, fields, custom properties or ????


TIA,

Bob Heygood

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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Hale, Jim
Sent: Monday, April 18, 2005 8:54 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Scrape Word


Whatever it takes to get the job done! Sorry I couldn't be more help.
Jim Hale

-----Original Message-----
From: Bob Heygood [mailto:bheygood at abestsystems.com]
Sent: Monday, April 18, 2005 10:09 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Scrape Word


Thanks Jim
I finally just ran the job as it took about 4 hours to process 256
documents.
it is a one time deal and the customer needed to have the results.

your help was fantastic.

bob



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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Hale, Jim
Sent: Friday, April 15, 2005 3:18 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Scrape Word


I'll look at it some more on Monday. You might examine the selection object
in the Word application. It has numerous properties and methods one or more
of which should do the trick.
Jim Hale

-----Original Message-----
From: Bob Heygood [mailto:bheygood at abestsystems.com]
Sent: Friday, April 15, 2005 4:52 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Scrape Word


yes in a table cell.
again your code is working super.
but only grabs the first word, sometimes there is more than one word in the
cell, and I would like to capture all of them.
if you have thought, I would welcome it.


again I tried to manipulate the code further but it acts very erratic when
in a table cell.

thanks for the great help.

bob


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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Hale, Jim
Sent: Thursday, April 14, 2005 12:53 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Scrape Word


So the data you want (including the search string) is in a table cell? In
the code I sent you delete
   wd.Selection.Start = wd.Selection.End
   Call wd.Selection.EndOf(wdSentence, wdExtend)

and replace with
   wd.Selection.Next(Unit:=wdWord, Count:=1).Select

Or if the entire string is returned you can replace the search string with
an empty string "" using the following function:

Function ReplaceString(strTextIn As String, strFind As String, strReplace As
String, fCaseSensitive As Boolean) As String

  Dim strTmp As String
  Dim intPos As Integer
  Dim intCaseSensitive As Integer

  intCaseSensitive = IIf(fCaseSensitive, 2, 1)

  strTmp = strTextIn
  intPos = InStr(1, strTmp, strFind, intCaseSensitive)

  Do While intPos > 0
    strTmp = Left$(strTmp, intPos - 1) & strReplace & Mid$(strTmp, intPos +
Len(strFind))
    intPos = InStr(intPos + Len(strReplace), strTmp, strFind,
intCaseSensitive)
  Loop

  ReplaceString = strTmp

End Function

Jim Hale


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From mmattys at rochester.rr.com  Fri Jun 10 09:03:47 2005
From: mmattys at rochester.rr.com (Michael R Mattys)
Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2005 10:03:47 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Australia - find nearest location
References: <635B80FE6C7D5A409586A6A110D97D17A20A9F@ACSANCHOR.corp.acsalaska.com>
	<007a01c56d66$9683a9b0$6601a8c0@user>
Message-ID: <00e101c56dc5$39c9f990$0202a8c0@default>

Kath,

Steven Pushee indicates that you can use the
MapPoint Web$ervice for Australia in this link:

http://www.mp2kmag.com/mappoint/discussion/viewtopic.asp?t=6860&sid=e802f4fd
47057ee6724f62a2ff4fbcc2
----

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Mattys MapLib for Microsoft MapPoint
http://www.mattysconsulting.com



----- Original Message -----
From: "Kath Pelletti" <KP at sdsonline.net>
To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving"
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Thursday, June 09, 2005 10:46 PM
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Australia - find nearest location


It's a very hot topic at the moment....thanks Mark
  ----- Original Message -----
  From: Porter, Mark
  To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
  Sent: Friday, June 10, 2005 11:33 AM
  Subject: RE: [AccessD] Australia - find nearest location


  They have been doing neat things with Google Maps, maybe something here
  will lead you to what you are looking for:

  http://www.cnn.com/2005/TECH/internet/06/09/google.map.hacks.ap/index.ht
  ml


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  [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Michael
  Maddison
  Sent: Thursday, June 09, 2005 4:48 PM
  To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
  Subject: RE: [AccessD] Australia - find nearest location

  Never tried myself, but the discussions here recently on MapPoint might
  lead the way.

  cheers

  Michael M

  Hi all - Just wondering whether there happens to be anyone on list who
  may already have done this -

  I'm writing a new system for a training company and they want add a
  geographic search capability - ie. they would like to enter a suburb or
  postcode and the system displays will show the courses which run closest
  to them geographically.

  Any tips? Or if anyone has done this at all - can you tell me what your
  approach was?

  Thanks - rgds

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From dejpolsys at hotmail.com  Fri Jun 10 09:41:01 2005
From: dejpolsys at hotmail.com (William Hindman)
Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2005 10:41:01 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] A2K: How to change subform view
References: <F2BE8EAB3EA585418337B71BCE6F3BF304EBB5@msmet100.rail.nsw.gov.au>
Message-ID: <BAY103-DAV6BF9824505EE0FB7BE7F3AEFF0@phx.gbl>

Bruce:

..Matty's code is correct:

DoCmd.RunCommand acCmdSubformFormView
..switches the Subform to FormView.

DoCmd.RunCommand acCmdSubformDatasheetView
..switches the Subform to DatasheetView

DoCmd.RunCommand acCmdSubformDatasheet
..toggles between the 2 views.

..hth :)

William

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Bruen, Bruce" <Bruce.Bruen at railcorp.nsw.gov.au>
To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving" 
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Friday, June 10, 2005 1:54 AM
Subject: RE: [AccessD] A2K: How to change subform view


> Michael,
>
> Both your Docmds are the same?????
>
>
> bruce
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Michael R
> Mattys
> Sent: Friday, 10 June 2005 12:38 PM
> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] A2K: How to change subform view
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Bruen, Bruce" <Bruce.Bruen at railcorp.nsw.gov.au>
> To: <AccessD at databaseadvisors.com>
> Sent: Thursday, June 09, 2005 10:25 PM
> Subject: [AccessD] A2K: How to change subform view
>
>
> Hi guys again,
>
> Memory has failed me.  In Access 2000, what is the code trick to change
> the subform view from datasheet to normal?
> The following 2003 code does not work.
>
> Private Sub Test_DblClick(Cancel As Integer)
>    DoCmd.RunCommand acCmdSubformFormView
> End Sub
> --------- 
>
> bruce
>
>    'Form to Datasheet (It's a subform)
>    If Me.Customers.Form.CurrentView = 1 Then
>        Me.Customers.SetFocus
>        DoCmd.RunCommand acCmdSubformDatasheet
>    End If
>
>    'Datasheet to Form
>    If Me.Customers.Form.CurrentView = 2 Then
>        Me.Customers.SetFocus
>        DoCmd.RunCommand acCmdSubformDatasheet
>    End If
>
> ----
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From JHewson at karta.com  Fri Jun 10 11:12:23 2005
From: JHewson at karta.com (Jim Hewson)
Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2005 11:12:23 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Filtering a sub-subform
Message-ID: <9C382E065F54AE48BC3AA7925DCBB01C03628FA8@karta-exc-int.Karta.com>


I'm having difficulty filtering a sub-subform in A2K.

The main form has subform1 which contains subform2.
A combobox on subform2 filters the records, which works when the form is
opened as a main form.
Subform1 is filtered using a listbox on subform1 and is not linked to
the main form.
Subform2 is linked to subform1.

I need to filter the records in subform2 with the combobox and still be
able to edit and add records.

How is this done?

Jim 



From martyconnelly at shaw.ca  Fri Jun 10 11:17:26 2005
From: martyconnelly at shaw.ca (MartyConnelly)
Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2005 09:17:26 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Scrape Word Part II
References: <AIEKKBIAKDJNAFGABNJKOECDCNAA.bheygood@abestsystems.com>
Message-ID: <42A9BD16.9050504@shaw.ca>

As to custom properties you could use the dsofiles.dll, it works for any 
ole type file
mdb,doc,xls,ppt or whatever visio uses, this also works from vb.net, 
doesn't require word be installed.
There is also code to search for text which might be modified for 
bookmarks but
there are two types of word bookmarks.
http://www.word.mvps.org/faqs/macrosvba/WorkWithBookmarks.htm

You could try searching this site especially the links to other word 
mvp's like cindy meister
I think you will have to poke around to find all the bits and pieces
http://word.mvps.org
or the main site
http://www.mvps.org


'See MSKB and Dsofile.exe Lets You Edit Office Document Properties from 
Visual Basic and ASP
'Microsoft Knowledge Base Article - 224351
'and download dsofile.exe
'http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=224351
'Add a reference (Tools | References in the VBE window) to it.
' depending on path where you have installed dsofile.dll
'Put the following in a new module and you should be OK

'Dsofile.dll lets you edit Office document properties without
'Office in Visual Basic .NET 2003 and in Visual Basic .NET 2002
'http://support.microsoft.com/?id=224351
'===========================================================
'http://www.word.mvps.org/faqs/macrosvba/WorkWithBookmarks.htm
Private oFilePropReader As DSOleFile.PropertyReader
Private oDocProp As DSOleFile.DocumentProperties

Public Sub GetPropsFromDirectory()
'this routine gets all doc files in a directory and shows Line Count and 
author
 
Dim ffile As String
On Error Resume Next
'careful with above line
'this is Quick and Dirty used to avoid missing propereties on some filetypes
' this can be used with microsoft, doc, ppt, xls and mdb files
    ffile = Dir("c:\wordvba\*.doc")
    Do While ffile <> "" 'recursive search for sub directories can be 
written
        If ffile <> "." And ffile <> ".." Then
            Set oFilePropReader = New DSOleFile.PropertyReader
            Set oDocProp = _
            oFilePropReader.GetDocumentProperties("c:\wordvba\" & ffile)
            MsgBox oDocProp.Name & " " & oDocProp.PageCount & _
               " pages " & oDocProp.Author
              With oDocProp
        Debug.Print "Name " & .Name
        Debug.Print "Application Name " & .AppName
        Debug.Print "Author " & .Author
        Debug.Print "Category " & .Category
        Debug.Print "Class Id " & .CLSID
        Debug.Print "Comments " & .Comments
        Debug.Print "Company " & .Company
        'Debug.Print "Custom " & .CustomProperties 'check index values
        Debug.Print "Create date " & .DateCreated
        Debug.Print "Last edited " & .DateLastEdited
        Debug.Print "Last printed " & .DateLastPrinted
        Debug.Print "Last saved " & .DateLastSaved
        Debug.Print "Contains Macros " & .HasMacros 'doesn't work with 
ppt files
        'Debug.Print .Icon 'you can view thumbnail in picture object
        Debug.Print "Read only " & .IsReadOnly
        Debug.Print "Keywords " & .Keywords
        Debug.Print "Last edited by " & .LastEditedBy
        Debug.Print "Line Count " & .LineCount
        Debug.Print "Location " & .Location
        Debug.Print "Manager " & .Manager
        Debug.Print "Page Count " & .PageCount
        Debug.Print "Paragraphs "; .ParagraphCount
        Debug.Print "Program Id " & .ProgId
        Debug.Print "Revision No. " & .RevisionNumber
        Debug.Print "Slides "; .SlideCount
        Debug.Print "Subject " & .Subject
        Debug.Print "Title " & .Title
        Debug.Print "Version " & .Version
        Debug.Print "WordCount " & .WordCount
        Debug.Print "Char Cnt " & .CharacterCount
        Debug.Print " "
        End With
            ffile = Dir()
            Set oDocProp = Nothing
            Set oFilePropReader = Nothing
           
        End If
    Loop
End Sub

Here is some quick and dirty code that opens a Word doc from inside Access,
searches for the string "special code:" and sets a string variable equal to
the sentence that follows the code string. If your documents all have the
same string you can find that string and select words, sentences or
paragraphs that come after it. from  Jim Hale

Function LiftText()

Dim wd As Word.Application, strPhrase As String, strFindphrase As String
strFindphrase = "special code:"
Set wd = New Word.Application
wd.Documents.Open "C:\Test.doc"
wd.Visible = True
wd.Selection.Find.ClearFormatting
    With wd.Selection.Find
        .Text = strFindphrase
        .Replacement.Text = ""
        .Forward = True
        .Wrap = wdFindContinue
        .Format = False
        .MatchCase = False
        .MatchWholeWord = False
        .MatchWildcards = False
        .MatchSoundsLike = False
        .MatchAllWordForms = False
    End With
    wd.Selection.Find.Execute
    wd.Selection.Start = wd.Selection.End
   Call wd.Selection.EndOf(wdSentence, wdExtend)
    strPhrase = wd.Selection
    MsgBox "Look what I found: " & strPhrase
    wd.ActiveDocument.Close
    wd.Quit
    Set wd = Nothing
End Function


Bob Heygood wrote:

>thanks Jim.
>I have looked before at Helen's code. Lots of great stuff there.
>
>bob
>
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Hale, Jim
>Sent: Wednesday, June 08, 2005 8:17 AM
>To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
>Subject: RE: [AccessD] Scrape Word Part II
>
>
>At the very bottom of this link Helen Feddema has some code that may help
>you.
>http://www.helenfeddema.com/CodeSamples.htm
>
>Jim Hale
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Bob Heygood [mailto:bheygood at abestsystems.com]
>Sent: Wednesday, June 08, 2005 8:35 AM
>To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
>Subject: [AccessD] Scrape Word Part II
>
>
>Hello to the list,
>
>Well, my project is alive again. This time I have the luxury of being able
>to create the Word document from which I need to cull the info. I still need
>to have a Word table but I can create bookmarks or whatever within the table
>in the document.
>To recap I need to import 10 pieces of text from a Word document and store
>them in a mdb table.
>Jim Hale's code below worked really good except that we were pressed for
>time and did not ever get it to work in all areas of the Word doc.
>So my first question is how to search the Word doc to find the text,
>bookmarks, fields, custom properties or ????
>
>
>TIA,
>
>Bob Heygood
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Hale, Jim
>Sent: Monday, April 18, 2005 8:54 AM
>To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
>Subject: RE: [AccessD] Scrape Word
>
>
>Whatever it takes to get the job done! Sorry I couldn't be more help.
>Jim Hale
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Bob Heygood [mailto:bheygood at abestsystems.com]
>Sent: Monday, April 18, 2005 10:09 AM
>To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
>Subject: RE: [AccessD] Scrape Word
>
>
>Thanks Jim
>I finally just ran the job as it took about 4 hours to process 256
>documents.
>it is a one time deal and the customer needed to have the results.
>
>your help was fantastic.
>
>bob
>
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Hale, Jim
>Sent: Friday, April 15, 2005 3:18 PM
>To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
>Subject: RE: [AccessD] Scrape Word
>
>
>I'll look at it some more on Monday. You might examine the selection object
>in the Word application. It has numerous properties and methods one or more
>of which should do the trick.
>Jim Hale
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Bob Heygood [mailto:bheygood at abestsystems.com]
>Sent: Friday, April 15, 2005 4:52 PM
>To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
>Subject: RE: [AccessD] Scrape Word
>
>
>yes in a table cell.
>again your code is working super.
>but only grabs the first word, sometimes there is more than one word in the
>cell, and I would like to capture all of them.
>if you have thought, I would welcome it.
>
>
>again I tried to manipulate the code further but it acts very erratic when
>in a table cell.
>
>thanks for the great help.
>
>bob
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Hale, Jim
>Sent: Thursday, April 14, 2005 12:53 PM
>To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
>Subject: RE: [AccessD] Scrape Word
>
>
>So the data you want (including the search string) is in a table cell? In
>the code I sent you delete
>   wd.Selection.Start = wd.Selection.End
>   Call wd.Selection.EndOf(wdSentence, wdExtend)
>
>and replace with
>   wd.Selection.Next(Unit:=wdWord, Count:=1).Select
>
>Or if the entire string is returned you can replace the search string with
>an empty string "" using the following function:
>
>Function ReplaceString(strTextIn As String, strFind As String, strReplace As
>String, fCaseSensitive As Boolean) As String
>
>  Dim strTmp As String
>  Dim intPos As Integer
>  Dim intCaseSensitive As Integer
>
>  intCaseSensitive = IIf(fCaseSensitive, 2, 1)
>
>  strTmp = strTextIn
>  intPos = InStr(1, strTmp, strFind, intCaseSensitive)
>
>  Do While intPos > 0
>    strTmp = Left$(strTmp, intPos - 1) & strReplace & Mid$(strTmp, intPos +
>Len(strFind))
>    intPos = InStr(intPos + Len(strReplace), strTmp, strFind,
>intCaseSensitive)
>  Loop
>
>  ReplaceString = strTmp
>
>End Function
>
>Jim Hale
>
>
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From darsant at gmail.com  Fri Jun 10 11:21:28 2005
From: darsant at gmail.com (Josh McFarlane)
Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2005 11:21:28 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Filtering a sub-subform
In-Reply-To: <9C382E065F54AE48BC3AA7925DCBB01C03628FA8@karta-exc-int.Karta.com>
References: <9C382E065F54AE48BC3AA7925DCBB01C03628FA8@karta-exc-int.Karta.com>
Message-ID: <53c8e05a050610092144430ca3@mail.gmail.com>

On 6/10/05, Jim Hewson <JHewson at karta.com> wrote:
> 
> I'm having difficulty filtering a sub-subform in A2K.
> 
> The main form has subform1 which contains subform2.
> A combobox on subform2 filters the records, which works when the form is
> opened as a main form.
> Subform1 is filtered using a listbox on subform1 and is not linked to
> the main form.
> Subform2 is linked to subform1.
> 
> I need to filter the records in subform2 with the combobox and still be
> able to edit and add records.
> 
> How is this done?
> 
> Jim
How are you filtering this at the moment? Are you filtering using
filters or by modifying the recordsource on the afterupdate event of
the combo box?

-- 
HTH
Josh McFarlane

"Peace cannot be kept by force. It can only be achieved by understanding."
-Albert Einstein


From martyconnelly at shaw.ca  Fri Jun 10 11:31:22 2005
From: martyconnelly at shaw.ca (MartyConnelly)
Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2005 09:31:22 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Scrape Word Part II
References: <AIEKKBIAKDJNAFGABNJKOECDCNAA.bheygood@abestsystems.com>
Message-ID: <42A9C05A.7030602@shaw.ca>

Just as a matter of interest this will be easy to do in the new Office 
12 XML word formats
you just write an XSLT to pick out the relevant bits. According to Brian 
Jones MS Word Project
Manager at this week's TechED. Microsoft will backward patch most 
versions of word
 to handle or at least read this new format

http://blogs.msdn.com/brian_jones/archive/2005/06/08/426818.aspx#comments

Bob Heygood wrote:

>thanks Jim.
>I have looked before at Helen's code. Lots of great stuff there.
>
>bob
>
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Hale, Jim
>Sent: Wednesday, June 08, 2005 8:17 AM
>To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
>Subject: RE: [AccessD] Scrape Word Part II
>
>
>At the very bottom of this link Helen Feddema has some code that may help
>you.
>http://www.helenfeddema.com/CodeSamples.htm
>
>Jim Hale
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Bob Heygood [mailto:bheygood at abestsystems.com]
>Sent: Wednesday, June 08, 2005 8:35 AM
>To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
>Subject: [AccessD] Scrape Word Part II
>
>
>Hello to the list,
>
>Well, my project is alive again. This time I have the luxury of being able
>to create the Word document from which I need to cull the info. I still need
>to have a Word table but I can create bookmarks or whatever within the table
>in the document.
>To recap I need to import 10 pieces of text from a Word document and store
>them in a mdb table.
>Jim Hale's code below worked really good except that we were pressed for
>time and did not ever get it to work in all areas of the Word doc.
>So my first question is how to search the Word doc to find the text,
>bookmarks, fields, custom properties or ????
>
>
>TIA,
>
>Bob Heygood
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Hale, Jim
>Sent: Monday, April 18, 2005 8:54 AM
>To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
>Subject: RE: [AccessD] Scrape Word
>
>
>Whatever it takes to get the job done! Sorry I couldn't be more help.
>Jim Hale
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Bob Heygood [mailto:bheygood at abestsystems.com]
>Sent: Monday, April 18, 2005 10:09 AM
>To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
>Subject: RE: [AccessD] Scrape Word
>
>
>Thanks Jim
>I finally just ran the job as it took about 4 hours to process 256
>documents.
>it is a one time deal and the customer needed to have the results.
>
>your help was fantastic.
>
>bob
>
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Hale, Jim
>Sent: Friday, April 15, 2005 3:18 PM
>To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
>Subject: RE: [AccessD] Scrape Word
>
>
>I'll look at it some more on Monday. You might examine the selection object
>in the Word application. It has numerous properties and methods one or more
>of which should do the trick.
>Jim Hale
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Bob Heygood [mailto:bheygood at abestsystems.com]
>Sent: Friday, April 15, 2005 4:52 PM
>To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
>Subject: RE: [AccessD] Scrape Word
>
>
>yes in a table cell.
>again your code is working super.
>but only grabs the first word, sometimes there is more than one word in the
>cell, and I would like to capture all of them.
>if you have thought, I would welcome it.
>
>
>again I tried to manipulate the code further but it acts very erratic when
>in a table cell.
>
>thanks for the great help.
>
>bob
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Hale, Jim
>Sent: Thursday, April 14, 2005 12:53 PM
>To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
>Subject: RE: [AccessD] Scrape Word
>
>
>So the data you want (including the search string) is in a table cell? In
>the code I sent you delete
>   wd.Selection.Start = wd.Selection.End
>   Call wd.Selection.EndOf(wdSentence, wdExtend)
>
>and replace with
>   wd.Selection.Next(Unit:=wdWord, Count:=1).Select
>
>Or if the entire string is returned you can replace the search string with
>an empty string "" using the following function:
>
>Function ReplaceString(strTextIn As String, strFind As String, strReplace As
>String, fCaseSensitive As Boolean) As String
>
>  Dim strTmp As String
>  Dim intPos As Integer
>  Dim intCaseSensitive As Integer
>
>  intCaseSensitive = IIf(fCaseSensitive, 2, 1)
>
>  strTmp = strTextIn
>  intPos = InStr(1, strTmp, strFind, intCaseSensitive)
>
>  Do While intPos > 0
>    strTmp = Left$(strTmp, intPos - 1) & strReplace & Mid$(strTmp, intPos +
>Len(strFind))
>    intPos = InStr(intPos + Len(strReplace), strTmp, strFind,
>intCaseSensitive)
>  Loop
>
>  ReplaceString = strTmp
>
>End Function
>
>Jim Hale
>
>
>  
>

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Canada





From JHewson at karta.com  Fri Jun 10 12:45:06 2005
From: JHewson at karta.com (Jim Hewson)
Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2005 12:45:06 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Filtering a sub-subform
Message-ID: <9C382E065F54AE48BC3AA7925DCBB01C03628FBE@karta-exc-int.Karta.com>

There is no filter currently.
I'm adding the filter through the afterupdate event of the combo box.
Thanks,
Jim

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Josh
McFarlane
Sent: Friday, June 10, 2005 11:21 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Filtering a sub-subform

On 6/10/05, Jim Hewson <JHewson at karta.com> wrote:
> 
> I'm having difficulty filtering a sub-subform in A2K.
> 
> The main form has subform1 which contains subform2.
> A combobox on subform2 filters the records, which works when the form 
> is opened as a main form.
> Subform1 is filtered using a listbox on subform1 and is not linked to 
> the main form.
> Subform2 is linked to subform1.
> 
> I need to filter the records in subform2 with the combobox and still 
> be able to edit and add records.
> 
> How is this done?
> 
> Jim
How are you filtering this at the moment? Are you filtering using
filters or by modifying the recordsource on the afterupdate event of the
combo box?

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From accessd at shaw.ca  Fri Jun 10 13:00:01 2005
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2005 11:00:01 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Friday humour
In-Reply-To: <9C382E065F54AE48BC3AA7925DCBB01C03628FBE@karta-exc-int.Karta.com>
Message-ID: <0IHV0011IRBYPU@l-daemon>

Hi All:

When first read I thought this was a joke... but I think it is for real;
which of course would make it more hilarious. Check this out:
http://www.catholicintl.com/epologetics/articles/science/geochallenge.htm

Jim 



From DElam at jenkens.com  Fri Jun 10 13:14:47 2005
From: DElam at jenkens.com (Elam, Debbie)
Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2005 13:14:47 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Friday humour
Message-ID: <7B1961ED924D1A459E378C9B1BB22B4C0492C986@natexch.jenkens.com>

Actually they are right.  The whole thing comes down to perspective.  Of
course the math is a heck of a lot easier if you simply consider the sun the
center around which the solar system revolves.  In this case as many others,
why not go with the simplest answer that gives the most correct predictions?
Why complicate the issue by insisting that a certain perspective has to be
maintained?  Groan, no doubt they will call it proof.  Of course the reverse
is just as true.  No one can prove that the sun revolves around the Earth,
but that is a minor detail.

Debbie

-----Original Message-----
From: Jim Lawrence [mailto:accessd at shaw.ca] 
Sent: Friday, June 10, 2005 1:00 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] Friday humour


Hi All:

When first read I thought this was a joke... but I think it is for real;
which of course would make it more hilarious. Check this out:
http://www.catholicintl.com/epologetics/articles/science/geochallenge.htm

Jim 

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From accessd at shaw.ca  Fri Jun 10 13:23:03 2005
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2005 11:23:03 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Friday humour
In-Reply-To: <7B1961ED924D1A459E378C9B1BB22B4C0492C986@natexch.jenkens.com>
Message-ID: <0IHV00LBLSECYT@l-daemon>

What's next... a challenge from the 'Flat Earth Society'?

Jim

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Elam, Debbie
Sent: Friday, June 10, 2005 11:15 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Friday humour

Actually they are right.  The whole thing comes down to perspective.  Of
course the math is a heck of a lot easier if you simply consider the sun the
center around which the solar system revolves.  In this case as many others,
why not go with the simplest answer that gives the most correct predictions?
Why complicate the issue by insisting that a certain perspective has to be
maintained?  Groan, no doubt they will call it proof.  Of course the reverse
is just as true.  No one can prove that the sun revolves around the Earth,
but that is a minor detail.

Debbie

-----Original Message-----
From: Jim Lawrence [mailto:accessd at shaw.ca] 
Sent: Friday, June 10, 2005 1:00 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] Friday humour


Hi All:

When first read I thought this was a joke... but I think it is for real;
which of course would make it more hilarious. Check this out:
http://www.catholicintl.com/epologetics/articles/science/geochallenge.htm

Jim 

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From drboz at pacbell.net  Fri Jun 10 13:24:57 2005
From: drboz at pacbell.net (Don Bozarth)
Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2005 11:24:57 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Friday humour
References: <7B1961ED924D1A459E378C9B1BB22B4C0492C986@natexch.jenkens.com>
Message-ID: <002701c56de9$b578af40$6401a8c0@don>

Well, if the solar system is Earth centered, a lot of the math dealing with
planetary motion goes right out the window... not to mention that little
sniggle called gravity.  The math of orbital mechanics suddenly disappears.
Were all that math wrong, we could never have made it to the Moon, Venus,
Mars, Jupiter, Saturn, and Uranus those places manmade satellites have
visited.

Don B.

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From: "Elam, Debbie" <DElam at jenkens.com>
To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'"
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Friday, June 10, 2005 11:14 AM
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Friday humour


> Actually they are right.  The whole thing comes down to perspective.  Of
> course the math is a heck of a lot easier if you simply consider the sun
the
> center around which the solar system revolves.  In this case as many
others,
> why not go with the simplest answer that gives the most correct
predictions?
> Why complicate the issue by insisting that a certain perspective has to be
> maintained?  Groan, no doubt they will call it proof.  Of course the
reverse
> is just as true.  No one can prove that the sun revolves around the Earth,
> but that is a minor detail.
>
> Debbie
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jim Lawrence [mailto:accessd at shaw.ca]
> Sent: Friday, June 10, 2005 1:00 PM
> To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
> Subject: [AccessD] Friday humour
>
>
> Hi All:
>
> When first read I thought this was a joke... but I think it is for real;
> which of course would make it more hilarious. Check this out:
> http://www.catholicintl.com/epologetics/articles/science/geochallenge.htm
>
> Jim
>
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From darsant at gmail.com  Fri Jun 10 13:25:55 2005
From: darsant at gmail.com (Josh McFarlane)
Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2005 13:25:55 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Filtering a sub-subform
In-Reply-To: <9C382E065F54AE48BC3AA7925DCBB01C03628FBE@karta-exc-int.Karta.com>
References: <9C382E065F54AE48BC3AA7925DCBB01C03628FBE@karta-exc-int.Karta.com>
Message-ID: <53c8e05a05061011254877bf7a@mail.gmail.com>

On 6/10/05, Jim Hewson <JHewson at karta.com> wrote:
> There is no filter currently.
> I'm adding the filter through the afterupdate event of the combo box.
> Thanks,
> Jim

It may be easiest to set the recordsource on the afterupdate (SELECT *
FROM Table WHERE FilteredField = " & CmbBoxSelection

Don't forget to Requery the form too after updating it.


-- 
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"Peace cannot be kept by force. It can only be achieved by understanding."
-Albert Einstein


From cfoust at infostatsystems.com  Fri Jun 10 13:27:49 2005
From: cfoust at infostatsystems.com (Charlotte Foust)
Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2005 11:27:49 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Friday humour
Message-ID: <E61FC1D4B1918244905B113C680BEA86873A90@infoserver01.infostat.local>

No, I think they're all in public office already! ,wink>

Charlotte Foust


-----Original Message-----
From: Jim Lawrence [mailto:accessd at shaw.ca] 
Sent: Friday, June 10, 2005 11:23 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Friday humour


What's next... a challenge from the 'Flat Earth Society'?

Jim

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Elam, Debbie
Sent: Friday, June 10, 2005 11:15 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Friday humour

Actually they are right.  The whole thing comes down to perspective.  Of
course the math is a heck of a lot easier if you simply consider the sun
the center around which the solar system revolves.  In this case as many
others, why not go with the simplest answer that gives the most correct
predictions? Why complicate the issue by insisting that a certain
perspective has to be maintained?  Groan, no doubt they will call it
proof.  Of course the reverse is just as true.  No one can prove that
the sun revolves around the Earth, but that is a minor detail.

Debbie

-----Original Message-----
From: Jim Lawrence [mailto:accessd at shaw.ca] 
Sent: Friday, June 10, 2005 1:00 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] Friday humour


Hi All:

When first read I thought this was a joke... but I think it is for real;
which of course would make it more hilarious. Check this out:
http://www.catholicintl.com/epologetics/articles/science/geochallenge.ht
m

Jim 

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From Lambert.Heenan at AIG.com  Fri Jun 10 13:33:16 2005
From: Lambert.Heenan at AIG.com (Heenan, Lambert)
Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2005 14:33:16 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Friday humour
Message-ID: <1D7828CDB8350747AFE9D69E0E90DA1F1176C2D3@xlivmbx21.aig.com>

Though I makes me feel unclean to even think about responding to such orgs
as the CAI, I will simply state that the question / challenge not only
points out their inbuilt prejudice on the subject (as does the web site,
which states that no-one *will* be able to offer any proof), but also
reveals their utter ignorance of the theory that their behind the times
dogma wishes to deny.

The sun does not revolve around the Earth and the Earth does not revolve
around the sun. They both orbit a common center of gravity, to which all the
other planets in the solar system contribute.

If they are so damned certain that the sun orbits the Earth then why don't
they offer up their "proof"?

Furthermore, no scientific minded person would be silly enough to suggest
that any theory can be proven. The only thing you can do to a theory is
discover more data that *supports* it and its predictions, or new data that
*refutes* the theory. Once the refutation data is on hand the theory must be
abandoned, or used with the understanding that it has limits. Thus when
Einstein's explanation of the orbit of Mercury was shown to be correct *by
observation*, the previous Newtonian theory had been shown to be wrong. But
then we always knew it was wrong anyway. It's just that it took until
Einstein for someone to explain the differences between observation and
Newton's theory.

Lambert


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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Elam, Debbie
Sent: Friday, June 10, 2005 2:15 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Friday humour


Actually they are right.  The whole thing comes down to perspective.  Of
course the math is a heck of a lot easier if you simply consider the sun the
center around which the solar system revolves.  In this case as many others,
why not go with the simplest answer that gives the most correct predictions?
Why complicate the issue by insisting that a certain perspective has to be
maintained?  Groan, no doubt they will call it proof.  Of course the reverse
is just as true.  No one can prove that the sun revolves around the Earth,
but that is a minor detail.

Debbie

-----Original Message-----
From: Jim Lawrence [mailto:accessd at shaw.ca] 
Sent: Friday, June 10, 2005 1:00 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] Friday humour


Hi All:

When first read I thought this was a joke... but I think it is for real;
which of course would make it more hilarious. Check this out:
http://www.catholicintl.com/epologetics/articles/science/geochallenge.htm

Jim 

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From DElam at jenkens.com  Fri Jun 10 13:39:17 2005
From: DElam at jenkens.com (Elam, Debbie)
Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2005 13:39:17 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Friday humour
Message-ID: <7B1961ED924D1A459E378C9B1BB22B4C0492C988@natexch.jenkens.com>

No it does not throw it out the window, it just makes the lovely and simple
orbital mechanics equations into monster equations that take a super
computer to calculate with any proficiency.  Of course those other planets
just orbit around the sun while the whole mess orbits around the Earth ;-).
That was the real reason it became obvious that the best method of
calculation was to put the sun in the center of the system.  The whole mess
with the rings was to account for planetary movements.  It is a little like
the headaches caused when you try to take the Earth's total motion into
account when compared to the motion of another star in the milky way galaxy
which is all rotating around a cluster of stars in the galaxy center.  Much
more pleasant to break it into chunks and consider the solar system a single
unit when talking about motion with respect to the galaxy.

Debbie

-----Original Message-----
From: Don Bozarth [mailto:drboz at pacbell.net] 
Sent: Friday, June 10, 2005 1:25 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Friday humour


Well, if the solar system is Earth centered, a lot of the math dealing with
planetary motion goes right out the window... not to mention that little
sniggle called gravity.  The math of orbital mechanics suddenly disappears.
Were all that math wrong, we could never have made it to the Moon, Venus,
Mars, Jupiter, Saturn, and Uranus those places manmade satellites have
visited.

Don B.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Elam, Debbie" <DElam at jenkens.com>
To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'"
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Friday, June 10, 2005 11:14 AM
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Friday humour


> Actually they are right.  The whole thing comes down to perspective.  Of
> course the math is a heck of a lot easier if you simply consider the sun
the
> center around which the solar system revolves.  In this case as many
others,
> why not go with the simplest answer that gives the most correct
predictions?
> Why complicate the issue by insisting that a certain perspective has to be
> maintained?  Groan, no doubt they will call it proof.  Of course the
reverse
> is just as true.  No one can prove that the sun revolves around the Earth,
> but that is a minor detail.
>
> Debbie
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jim Lawrence [mailto:accessd at shaw.ca]
> Sent: Friday, June 10, 2005 1:00 PM
> To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
> Subject: [AccessD] Friday humour
>
>
> Hi All:
>
> When first read I thought this was a joke... but I think it is for real;
> which of course would make it more hilarious. Check this out:
> http://www.catholicintl.com/epologetics/articles/science/geochallenge.htm
>
> Jim
>
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From DElam at jenkens.com  Fri Jun 10 13:46:12 2005
From: DElam at jenkens.com (Elam, Debbie)
Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2005 13:46:12 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Friday humour
Message-ID: <7B1961ED924D1A459E378C9B1BB22B4C0492C989@natexch.jenkens.com>

Are any of you under the impression that I support this garbage?  They have
a point, but as I pointed out it is a really ridiculous one.  If two objects
are in motion around each other it is a matter of perspective to say which
orbits the other without a point of reference they are moving against.
Space itself is fairly reference less.  It is the motion of other planets as
well that enables us to pick a gravitational center of the solar system so
we can come up with coherent math that explains it all quite nicely.

Debbie

-----Original Message-----
From: Heenan, Lambert [mailto:Lambert.Heenan at aig.com] 
Sent: Friday, June 10, 2005 1:33 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Friday humour


Though I makes me feel unclean to even think about responding to such orgs
as the CAI, I will simply state that the question / challenge not only
points out their inbuilt prejudice on the subject (as does the web site,
which states that no-one *will* be able to offer any proof), but also
reveals their utter ignorance of the theory that their behind the times
dogma wishes to deny.

The sun does not revolve around the Earth and the Earth does not revolve
around the sun. They both orbit a common center of gravity, to which all the
other planets in the solar system contribute.

If they are so damned certain that the sun orbits the Earth then why don't
they offer up their "proof"?

Furthermore, no scientific minded person would be silly enough to suggest
that any theory can be proven. The only thing you can do to a theory is
discover more data that *supports* it and its predictions, or new data that
*refutes* the theory. Once the refutation data is on hand the theory must be
abandoned, or used with the understanding that it has limits. Thus when
Einstein's explanation of the orbit of Mercury was shown to be correct *by
observation*, the previous Newtonian theory had been shown to be wrong. But
then we always knew it was wrong anyway. It's just that it took until
Einstein for someone to explain the differences between observation and
Newton's theory.

Lambert


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Sent: Friday, June 10, 2005 2:15 PM
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Subject: RE: [AccessD] Friday humour


Actually they are right.  The whole thing comes down to perspective.  Of
course the math is a heck of a lot easier if you simply consider the sun the
center around which the solar system revolves.  In this case as many others,
why not go with the simplest answer that gives the most correct predictions?
Why complicate the issue by insisting that a certain perspective has to be
maintained?  Groan, no doubt they will call it proof.  Of course the reverse
is just as true.  No one can prove that the sun revolves around the Earth,
but that is a minor detail.

Debbie

-----Original Message-----
From: Jim Lawrence [mailto:accessd at shaw.ca] 
Sent: Friday, June 10, 2005 1:00 PM
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Subject: [AccessD] Friday humour


Hi All:

When first read I thought this was a joke... but I think it is for real;
which of course would make it more hilarious. Check this out:
http://www.catholicintl.com/epologetics/articles/science/geochallenge.htm

Jim 

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From drboz at pacbell.net  Fri Jun 10 13:46:26 2005
From: drboz at pacbell.net (Don Bozarth)
Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2005 11:46:26 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Friday humour
References: <7B1961ED924D1A459E378C9B1BB22B4C0492C988@natexch.jenkens.com>
Message-ID: <000701c56dec$b51d4170$6401a8c0@don>

Occams razor applies... the simplest solution is often the best.  Those
monster equations would be unstable on their best days... since the center
of gravity of the total mass of that "mess" would be changing moment to
moment.

Than anyone seriously doubts the sun centric solar system simply astounds
me.  There are more than sufficient observable effects to support that
theory.  There are none... zero.. zip... nada observations that support the
earth centric model.

Don B.

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From: "Elam, Debbie" <DElam at jenkens.com>
To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'"
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Sent: Friday, June 10, 2005 11:39 AM
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Friday humour


> No it does not throw it out the window, it just makes the lovely and
simple
> orbital mechanics equations into monster equations that take a super
> computer to calculate with any proficiency.  Of course those other planets
> just orbit around the sun while the whole mess orbits around the Earth
;-).
> That was the real reason it became obvious that the best method of
> calculation was to put the sun in the center of the system.  The whole
mess
> with the rings was to account for planetary movements.  It is a little
like
> the headaches caused when you try to take the Earth's total motion into
> account when compared to the motion of another star in the milky way
galaxy
> which is all rotating around a cluster of stars in the galaxy center.
Much
> more pleasant to break it into chunks and consider the solar system a
single
> unit when talking about motion with respect to the galaxy.
>
> Debbie
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Don Bozarth [mailto:drboz at pacbell.net]
> Sent: Friday, June 10, 2005 1:25 PM
> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] Friday humour
>
>
> Well, if the solar system is Earth centered, a lot of the math dealing
with
> planetary motion goes right out the window... not to mention that little
> sniggle called gravity.  The math of orbital mechanics suddenly
disappears.
> Were all that math wrong, we could never have made it to the Moon, Venus,
> Mars, Jupiter, Saturn, and Uranus those places manmade satellites have
> visited.
>
> Don B.
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Elam, Debbie" <DElam at jenkens.com>
> To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'"
> <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
> Sent: Friday, June 10, 2005 11:14 AM
> Subject: RE: [AccessD] Friday humour
>
>
> > Actually they are right.  The whole thing comes down to perspective.  Of
> > course the math is a heck of a lot easier if you simply consider the sun
> the
> > center around which the solar system revolves.  In this case as many
> others,
> > why not go with the simplest answer that gives the most correct
> predictions?
> > Why complicate the issue by insisting that a certain perspective has to
be
> > maintained?  Groan, no doubt they will call it proof.  Of course the
> reverse
> > is just as true.  No one can prove that the sun revolves around the
Earth,
> > but that is a minor detail.
> >
> > Debbie
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Jim Lawrence [mailto:accessd at shaw.ca]
> > Sent: Friday, June 10, 2005 1:00 PM
> > To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
> > Subject: [AccessD] Friday humour
> >
> >
> > Hi All:
> >
> > When first read I thought this was a joke... but I think it is for real;
> > which of course would make it more hilarious. Check this out:
> >
http://www.catholicintl.com/epologetics/articles/science/geochallenge.htm
> >
> > Jim
> >
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From Lambert.Heenan at AIG.com  Fri Jun 10 13:49:04 2005
From: Lambert.Heenan at AIG.com (Heenan, Lambert)
Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2005 14:49:04 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Friday humour
Message-ID: <1D7828CDB8350747AFE9D69E0E90DA1F1176C2EC@xlivmbx21.aig.com>

Anyone care to tell us how the Earth Centric types explain stellar parallax?
Or do they simply deny its existence as their various 'good books' refer to
the 'fixed stars'?


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Elam, Debbie
Sent: Friday, June 10, 2005 2:39 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Friday humour


No it does not throw it out the window, it just makes the lovely and simple
orbital mechanics equations into monster equations that take a super
computer to calculate with any proficiency.  Of course those other planets
just orbit around the sun while the whole mess orbits around the Earth ;-).
That was the real reason it became obvious that the best method of
calculation was to put the sun in the center of the system.  The whole mess
with the rings was to account for planetary movements.  It is a little like
the headaches caused when you try to take the Earth's total motion into
account when compared to the motion of another star in the milky way galaxy
which is all rotating around a cluster of stars in the galaxy center.  Much
more pleasant to break it into chunks and consider the solar system a single
unit when talking about motion with respect to the galaxy.

Debbie

-----Original Message-----
From: Don Bozarth [mailto:drboz at pacbell.net] 
Sent: Friday, June 10, 2005 1:25 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Friday humour


Well, if the solar system is Earth centered, a lot of the math dealing with
planetary motion goes right out the window... not to mention that little
sniggle called gravity.  The math of orbital mechanics suddenly disappears.
Were all that math wrong, we could never have made it to the Moon, Venus,
Mars, Jupiter, Saturn, and Uranus those places manmade satellites have
visited.

Don B.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Elam, Debbie" <DElam at jenkens.com>
To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'"
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Friday, June 10, 2005 11:14 AM
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Friday humour


> Actually they are right.  The whole thing comes down to perspective.  
> Of course the math is a heck of a lot easier if you simply consider 
> the sun
the
> center around which the solar system revolves.  In this case as many
others,
> why not go with the simplest answer that gives the most correct
predictions?
> Why complicate the issue by insisting that a certain perspective has 
> to be maintained?  Groan, no doubt they will call it proof.  Of course 
> the
reverse
> is just as true.  No one can prove that the sun revolves around the 
> Earth, but that is a minor detail.
>
> Debbie
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jim Lawrence [mailto:accessd at shaw.ca]
> Sent: Friday, June 10, 2005 1:00 PM
> To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
> Subject: [AccessD] Friday humour
>
>
> Hi All:
>
> When first read I thought this was a joke... but I think it is for 
> real; which of course would make it more hilarious. Check this out: 
> http://www.catholicintl.com/epologetics/articles/science/geochallenge.
> htm
>
> Jim
>
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From accessd at shaw.ca  Fri Jun 10 13:50:31 2005
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2005 11:50:31 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Friday humour
In-Reply-To: <E61FC1D4B1918244905B113C680BEA86873A90@infoserver01.infostat.local>
Message-ID: <0IHV00J7JTO472@l-daemon>

On that subject, an email arrived with this link:

http://www.boreme.com/boreme/funny-2005/bush-ten-years-ago.php?gobackto=home

It sometimes is nice to be one step removed.

Jim

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Charlotte Foust
Sent: Friday, June 10, 2005 11:28 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Friday humour

No, I think they're all in public office already! ,wink>

Charlotte Foust


-----Original Message-----
From: Jim Lawrence [mailto:accessd at shaw.ca] 
Sent: Friday, June 10, 2005 11:23 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Friday humour


What's next... a challenge from the 'Flat Earth Society'?

Jim

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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Elam, Debbie
Sent: Friday, June 10, 2005 11:15 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Friday humour

Actually they are right.  The whole thing comes down to perspective.  Of
course the math is a heck of a lot easier if you simply consider the sun
the center around which the solar system revolves.  In this case as many
others, why not go with the simplest answer that gives the most correct
predictions? Why complicate the issue by insisting that a certain
perspective has to be maintained?  Groan, no doubt they will call it
proof.  Of course the reverse is just as true.  No one can prove that
the sun revolves around the Earth, but that is a minor detail.

Debbie

-----Original Message-----
From: Jim Lawrence [mailto:accessd at shaw.ca] 
Sent: Friday, June 10, 2005 1:00 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] Friday humour


Hi All:

When first read I thought this was a joke... but I think it is for real;
which of course would make it more hilarious. Check this out:
http://www.catholicintl.com/epologetics/articles/science/geochallenge.ht
m

Jim 

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From DElam at jenkens.com  Fri Jun 10 13:52:00 2005
From: DElam at jenkens.com (Elam, Debbie)
Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2005 13:52:00 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Friday humour
Message-ID: <7B1961ED924D1A459E378C9B1BB22B4C0492C98A@natexch.jenkens.com>

Umm...yeah.  Did you read the whole thing?

Debbie

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From: Don Bozarth [mailto:drboz at pacbell.net] 
Sent: Friday, June 10, 2005 1:46 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Friday humour


Occams razor applies... the simplest solution is often the best.  Those
monster equations would be unstable on their best days... since the center
of gravity of the total mass of that "mess" would be changing moment to
moment.

Than anyone seriously doubts the sun centric solar system simply astounds
me.  There are more than sufficient observable effects to support that
theory.  There are none... zero.. zip... nada observations that support the
earth centric model.

Don B.

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From: "Elam, Debbie" <DElam at jenkens.com>
To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'"
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Sent: Friday, June 10, 2005 11:39 AM
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Friday humour


> No it does not throw it out the window, it just makes the lovely and
simple
> orbital mechanics equations into monster equations that take a super
> computer to calculate with any proficiency.  Of course those other planets
> just orbit around the sun while the whole mess orbits around the Earth
;-).
> That was the real reason it became obvious that the best method of
> calculation was to put the sun in the center of the system.  The whole
mess
> with the rings was to account for planetary movements.  It is a little
like
> the headaches caused when you try to take the Earth's total motion into
> account when compared to the motion of another star in the milky way
galaxy
> which is all rotating around a cluster of stars in the galaxy center.
Much
> more pleasant to break it into chunks and consider the solar system a
single
> unit when talking about motion with respect to the galaxy.
>
> Debbie
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Don Bozarth [mailto:drboz at pacbell.net]
> Sent: Friday, June 10, 2005 1:25 PM
> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] Friday humour
>
>
> Well, if the solar system is Earth centered, a lot of the math dealing
with
> planetary motion goes right out the window... not to mention that little
> sniggle called gravity.  The math of orbital mechanics suddenly
disappears.
> Were all that math wrong, we could never have made it to the Moon, Venus,
> Mars, Jupiter, Saturn, and Uranus those places manmade satellites have
> visited.
>
> Don B.
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Elam, Debbie" <DElam at jenkens.com>
> To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'"
> <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
> Sent: Friday, June 10, 2005 11:14 AM
> Subject: RE: [AccessD] Friday humour
>
>
> > Actually they are right.  The whole thing comes down to perspective.  Of
> > course the math is a heck of a lot easier if you simply consider the sun
> the
> > center around which the solar system revolves.  In this case as many
> others,
> > why not go with the simplest answer that gives the most correct
> predictions?
> > Why complicate the issue by insisting that a certain perspective has to
be
> > maintained?  Groan, no doubt they will call it proof.  Of course the
> reverse
> > is just as true.  No one can prove that the sun revolves around the
Earth,
> > but that is a minor detail.
> >
> > Debbie
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Jim Lawrence [mailto:accessd at shaw.ca]
> > Sent: Friday, June 10, 2005 1:00 PM
> > To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
> > Subject: [AccessD] Friday humour
> >
> >
> > Hi All:
> >
> > When first read I thought this was a joke... but I think it is for real;
> > which of course would make it more hilarious. Check this out:
> >
http://www.catholicintl.com/epologetics/articles/science/geochallenge.htm
> >
> > Jim
> >
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From accessd at shaw.ca  Fri Jun 10 13:54:54 2005
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2005 11:54:54 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Friday humour
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As Creationists have established that it is not necessary to prove your
theory it is only necessary to add doubt to the alternative theory.

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Sent: Friday, June 10, 2005 11:49 AM
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Anyone care to tell us how the Earth Centric types explain stellar parallax?
Or do they simply deny its existence as their various 'good books' refer to
the 'fixed stars'?


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Sent: Friday, June 10, 2005 2:39 PM
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No it does not throw it out the window, it just makes the lovely and simple
orbital mechanics equations into monster equations that take a super
computer to calculate with any proficiency.  Of course those other planets
just orbit around the sun while the whole mess orbits around the Earth ;-).
That was the real reason it became obvious that the best method of
calculation was to put the sun in the center of the system.  The whole mess
with the rings was to account for planetary movements.  It is a little like
the headaches caused when you try to take the Earth's total motion into
account when compared to the motion of another star in the milky way galaxy
which is all rotating around a cluster of stars in the galaxy center.  Much
more pleasant to break it into chunks and consider the solar system a single
unit when talking about motion with respect to the galaxy.

Debbie

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Sent: Friday, June 10, 2005 1:25 PM
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Well, if the solar system is Earth centered, a lot of the math dealing with
planetary motion goes right out the window... not to mention that little
sniggle called gravity.  The math of orbital mechanics suddenly disappears.
Were all that math wrong, we could never have made it to the Moon, Venus,
Mars, Jupiter, Saturn, and Uranus those places manmade satellites have
visited.

Don B.

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> Actually they are right.  The whole thing comes down to perspective.  
> Of course the math is a heck of a lot easier if you simply consider 
> the sun
the
> center around which the solar system revolves.  In this case as many
others,
> why not go with the simplest answer that gives the most correct
predictions?
> Why complicate the issue by insisting that a certain perspective has 
> to be maintained?  Groan, no doubt they will call it proof.  Of course 
> the
reverse
> is just as true.  No one can prove that the sun revolves around the 
> Earth, but that is a minor detail.
>
> Debbie
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jim Lawrence [mailto:accessd at shaw.ca]
> Sent: Friday, June 10, 2005 1:00 PM
> To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
> Subject: [AccessD] Friday humour
>
>
> Hi All:
>
> When first read I thought this was a joke... but I think it is for 
> real; which of course would make it more hilarious. Check this out: 
> http://www.catholicintl.com/epologetics/articles/science/geochallenge.
> htm
>
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From Lambert.Heenan at AIG.com  Fri Jun 10 13:55:51 2005
From: Lambert.Heenan at AIG.com (Heenan, Lambert)
Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2005 14:55:51 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Friday humour
Message-ID: <1D7828CDB8350747AFE9D69E0E90DA1F1176C2F5@xlivmbx21.aig.com>

Golly no!  I would seriously doubt if anyone on this group supports these
dogma befuddled notions!

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Sent: Friday, June 10, 2005 2:46 PM
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Are any of you under the impression that I support this garbage?  They have
a point, but as I pointed out it is a really ridiculous one.  If two objects
are in motion around each other it is a matter of perspective to say which
orbits the other without a point of reference they are moving against. Space
itself is fairly reference less.  It is the motion of other planets as well
that enables us to pick a gravitational center of the solar system so we can
come up with coherent math that explains it all quite nicely.

Debbie

-----Original Message-----
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Sent: Friday, June 10, 2005 1:33 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Friday humour


Though I makes me feel unclean to even think about responding to such orgs
as the CAI, I will simply state that the question / challenge not only
points out their inbuilt prejudice on the subject (as does the web site,
which states that no-one *will* be able to offer any proof), but also
reveals their utter ignorance of the theory that their behind the times
dogma wishes to deny.

The sun does not revolve around the Earth and the Earth does not revolve
around the sun. They both orbit a common center of gravity, to which all the
other planets in the solar system contribute.

If they are so damned certain that the sun orbits the Earth then why don't
they offer up their "proof"?

Furthermore, no scientific minded person would be silly enough to suggest
that any theory can be proven. The only thing you can do to a theory is
discover more data that *supports* it and its predictions, or new data that
*refutes* the theory. Once the refutation data is on hand the theory must be
abandoned, or used with the understanding that it has limits. Thus when
Einstein's explanation of the orbit of Mercury was shown to be correct *by
observation*, the previous Newtonian theory had been shown to be wrong. But
then we always knew it was wrong anyway. It's just that it took until
Einstein for someone to explain the differences between observation and
Newton's theory.

Lambert


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Sent: Friday, June 10, 2005 2:15 PM
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Subject: RE: [AccessD] Friday humour


Actually they are right.  The whole thing comes down to perspective.  Of
course the math is a heck of a lot easier if you simply consider the sun the
center around which the solar system revolves.  In this case as many others,
why not go with the simplest answer that gives the most correct predictions?
Why complicate the issue by insisting that a certain perspective has to be
maintained?  Groan, no doubt they will call it proof.  Of course the reverse
is just as true.  No one can prove that the sun revolves around the Earth,
but that is a minor detail.

Debbie

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Sent: Friday, June 10, 2005 1:00 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] Friday humour


Hi All:

When first read I thought this was a joke... but I think it is for real;
which of course would make it more hilarious. Check this out:
http://www.catholicintl.com/epologetics/articles/science/geochallenge.htm

Jim 

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From darsant at gmail.com  Fri Jun 10 14:01:08 2005
From: darsant at gmail.com (Josh McFarlane)
Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2005 14:01:08 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Friday humour
In-Reply-To: <0IHV00JAJTVF5E@l-daemon>
References: <1D7828CDB8350747AFE9D69E0E90DA1F1176C2EC@xlivmbx21.aig.com>
	<0IHV00JAJTVF5E@l-daemon>
Message-ID: <53c8e05a050610120128f44e52@mail.gmail.com>

On 6/10/05, Jim Lawrence <accessd at shaw.ca> wrote:
> As Creationists have established that it is not necessary to prove your
> theory it is only necessary to add doubt to the alternative theory.

Ah, but do not forget that when someone adds doubt your theory, it
does not matter, as they are wrong.<g>

-- 
Josh McFarlane

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-Albert Einstein


From dejpolsys at hotmail.com  Fri Jun 10 14:03:25 2005
From: dejpolsys at hotmail.com (William Hindman)
Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2005 15:03:25 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Friday humour
References: <0IHV0011IRBYPU@l-daemon>
Message-ID: <BAY103-DAV24B4F4D2511E254127A3FAEFF0@phx.gbl>

..cretins arguing with morons :)

William
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Subject: [AccessD] Friday humour


> Hi All:
>
> When first read I thought this was a joke... but I think it is for real;
> which of course would make it more hilarious. Check this out:
> http://www.catholicintl.com/epologetics/articles/science/geochallenge.htm
>
> Jim
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From DElam at jenkens.com  Fri Jun 10 14:11:01 2005
From: DElam at jenkens.com (Elam, Debbie)
Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2005 14:11:01 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Friday humour
Message-ID: <7B1961ED924D1A459E378C9B1BB22B4C0492C98B@natexch.jenkens.com>

They are comparing against one speech 10 years ago, not the best baseline
sample for a reasonable analysis.  As they pointed out they can find current
examples where he is just as articulate today.  What a hack job!

Debbie

-----Original Message-----
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Sent: Friday, June 10, 2005 1:51 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Friday humour


On that subject, an email arrived with this link:

http://www.boreme.com/boreme/funny-2005/bush-ten-years-ago.php?gobackto=home

It sometimes is nice to be one step removed.

Jim

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Charlotte Foust
Sent: Friday, June 10, 2005 11:28 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Friday humour

No, I think they're all in public office already! ,wink>

Charlotte Foust


-----Original Message-----
From: Jim Lawrence [mailto:accessd at shaw.ca] 
Sent: Friday, June 10, 2005 11:23 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Friday humour


What's next... a challenge from the 'Flat Earth Society'?

Jim

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Sent: Friday, June 10, 2005 11:15 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Friday humour

Actually they are right.  The whole thing comes down to perspective.  Of
course the math is a heck of a lot easier if you simply consider the sun
the center around which the solar system revolves.  In this case as many
others, why not go with the simplest answer that gives the most correct
predictions? Why complicate the issue by insisting that a certain
perspective has to be maintained?  Groan, no doubt they will call it
proof.  Of course the reverse is just as true.  No one can prove that
the sun revolves around the Earth, but that is a minor detail.

Debbie

-----Original Message-----
From: Jim Lawrence [mailto:accessd at shaw.ca] 
Sent: Friday, June 10, 2005 1:00 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] Friday humour


Hi All:

When first read I thought this was a joke... but I think it is for real;
which of course would make it more hilarious. Check this out:
http://www.catholicintl.com/epologetics/articles/science/geochallenge.ht
m

Jim 

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From dmcafee at pacbell.net  Fri Jun 10 14:20:44 2005
From: dmcafee at pacbell.net (David Mcafee)
Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2005 12:20:44 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [AccessD] Friday humour (funny)
In-Reply-To: <7B1961ED924D1A459E378C9B1BB22B4C0492C98B@natexch.jenkens.com>
Message-ID: <20050610192044.47500.qmail@web80808.mail.yahoo.com>

A 6-year old and a 4-year old are upstairs in their
bedroom. "You know what?" says the 6-year old. "I
think it's about time we started cussing." 

The 4-year old nods his head in approval. The 6-year
old continues,
"When we go downstairs for breakfast, I'm gonna say
something with hell and you say something with ass."
The 4-year old agrees with enthusiasm.

When the mother walks into the kitchen and asks the
6-year old what he wants for breakfast, he replies,
"Aw, hell, Mom, I guess I'll have some Cheerios."

WHACK! He flies out of his chair, tumbles across the
kitchen floor, gets up, and runs upstairs crying his
eyes out, with his mother in hot pursuit, slapping his
rear with every step. His Mom locks him in his
room and shouts, "You can stay there until I let you
out!"

She then comes back downstairs, looks at the 4-year
old and asks with a stern voice, "And what do YOU want
for breakfast, young man?"

"I don't know," he blubbers, "but you can bet your fat
ass it won't be Cheerios." 



From drboz at pacbell.net  Fri Jun 10 14:23:03 2005
From: drboz at pacbell.net (Don Bozarth)
Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2005 12:23:03 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Friday humour
References: <7B1961ED924D1A459E378C9B1BB22B4C0492C98B@natexch.jenkens.com>
Message-ID: <000d01c56df1$d2c7e9f0$6401a8c0@don>

Yes, I read the whole thing.  Typical defend "the church" at all costs
rhetoric.  According to this group no scientist ever did anything right.

Don B.




From cfoust at infostatsystems.com  Fri Jun 10 15:02:58 2005
From: cfoust at infostatsystems.com (Charlotte Foust)
Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2005 13:02:58 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Friday humour
Message-ID: <E61FC1D4B1918244905B113C680BEA86873A91@infoserver01.infostat.local>

Friends,

In Woody's Lounge, we axe threads like this to avoid offending anyone,
however misinformed they might be in their beliefs.  Is there an
equivalent rule in this list?  I get very twitchy when conversations
wander into the areas of religion and politics, since they tend to
deteriorate into name calling and flames.

Charlotte Foust


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From: Heenan, Lambert [mailto:Lambert.Heenan at aig.com] 
Sent: Friday, June 10, 2005 11:49 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Friday humour


Anyone care to tell us how the Earth Centric types explain stellar
parallax? Or do they simply deny its existence as their various 'good
books' refer to the 'fixed stars'?


-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Elam, Debbie
Sent: Friday, June 10, 2005 2:39 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
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No it does not throw it out the window, it just makes the lovely and
simple orbital mechanics equations into monster equations that take a
super computer to calculate with any proficiency.  Of course those other
planets just orbit around the sun while the whole mess orbits around the
Earth ;-). That was the real reason it became obvious that the best
method of calculation was to put the sun in the center of the system.
The whole mess with the rings was to account for planetary movements.
It is a little like the headaches caused when you try to take the
Earth's total motion into account when compared to the motion of another
star in the milky way galaxy which is all rotating around a cluster of
stars in the galaxy center.  Much more pleasant to break it into chunks
and consider the solar system a single unit when talking about motion
with respect to the galaxy.

Debbie

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From: Don Bozarth [mailto:drboz at pacbell.net] 
Sent: Friday, June 10, 2005 1:25 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Friday humour


Well, if the solar system is Earth centered, a lot of the math dealing
with planetary motion goes right out the window... not to mention that
little sniggle called gravity.  The math of orbital mechanics suddenly
disappears. Were all that math wrong, we could never have made it to the
Moon, Venus, Mars, Jupiter, Saturn, and Uranus those places manmade
satellites have visited.

Don B.

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From: "Elam, Debbie" <DElam at jenkens.com>
To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'"
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Sent: Friday, June 10, 2005 11:14 AM
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Friday humour


> Actually they are right.  The whole thing comes down to perspective.
> Of course the math is a heck of a lot easier if you simply consider 
> the sun
the
> center around which the solar system revolves.  In this case as many
others,
> why not go with the simplest answer that gives the most correct
predictions?
> Why complicate the issue by insisting that a certain perspective has
> to be maintained?  Groan, no doubt they will call it proof.  Of course

> the
reverse
> is just as true.  No one can prove that the sun revolves around the
> Earth, but that is a minor detail.
>
> Debbie
>
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>
>
> Hi All:
>
> When first read I thought this was a joke... but I think it is for
> real; which of course would make it more hilarious. Check this out: 
> http://www.catholicintl.com/epologetics/articles/science/geochallenge.
> htm
>
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From Gustav at cactus.dk  Fri Jun 10 15:03:42 2005
From: Gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2005 22:03:42 +0200
Subject: [AccessD] Friday humour
Message-ID: <s2aa0e58.074@cactus.dk>

Hi Jim

It isn't even funny. Such a site makes me feel sick.

/gustav

>>> accessd at shaw.ca 06/10 8:00 pm >>>
Hi All:

When first read I thought this was a joke... but I think it is for
real;
which of course would make it more hilarious. Check this out:
http://www.catholicintl.com/epologetics/articles/science/geochallenge.htm


Jim 



From cfoust at infostatsystems.com  Fri Jun 10 15:05:28 2005
From: cfoust at infostatsystems.com (Charlotte Foust)
Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2005 13:05:28 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Friday humour
Message-ID: <E61FC1D4B1918244905B113C680BEA86873A92@infoserver01.infostat.local>

Sure, but you have to be demented to want to be in politics anyhow, so
they're at least half right, regardless of who the politician is. ;->

Charlotte Foust


-----Original Message-----
From: Elam, Debbie [mailto:DElam at jenkens.com] 
Sent: Friday, June 10, 2005 12:11 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Friday humour


They are comparing against one speech 10 years ago, not the best
baseline sample for a reasonable analysis.  As they pointed out they can
find current examples where he is just as articulate today.  What a hack
job!

Debbie

-----Original Message-----
From: Jim Lawrence [mailto:accessd at shaw.ca] 
Sent: Friday, June 10, 2005 1:51 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Friday humour


On that subject, an email arrived with this link:

http://www.boreme.com/boreme/funny-2005/bush-ten-years-ago.php?gobackto=
home

It sometimes is nice to be one step removed.

Jim

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Charlotte
Foust
Sent: Friday, June 10, 2005 11:28 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Friday humour

No, I think they're all in public office already! ,wink>

Charlotte Foust


-----Original Message-----
From: Jim Lawrence [mailto:accessd at shaw.ca] 
Sent: Friday, June 10, 2005 11:23 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Friday humour


What's next... a challenge from the 'Flat Earth Society'?

Jim

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Elam, Debbie
Sent: Friday, June 10, 2005 11:15 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Friday humour

Actually they are right.  The whole thing comes down to perspective.  Of
course the math is a heck of a lot easier if you simply consider the sun
the center around which the solar system revolves.  In this case as many
others, why not go with the simplest answer that gives the most correct
predictions? Why complicate the issue by insisting that a certain
perspective has to be maintained?  Groan, no doubt they will call it
proof.  Of course the reverse is just as true.  No one can prove that
the sun revolves around the Earth, but that is a minor detail.

Debbie

-----Original Message-----
From: Jim Lawrence [mailto:accessd at shaw.ca] 
Sent: Friday, June 10, 2005 1:00 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] Friday humour


Hi All:

When first read I thought this was a joke... but I think it is for real;
which of course would make it more hilarious. Check this out:
http://www.catholicintl.com/epologetics/articles/science/geochallenge.ht
m

Jim 

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From DElam at jenkens.com  Fri Jun 10 15:05:23 2005
From: DElam at jenkens.com (Elam, Debbie)
Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2005 15:05:23 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Friday humour
Message-ID: <7B1961ED924D1A459E378C9B1BB22B4C0492C98D@natexch.jenkens.com>

OK, you were talking about the original article.  I thought you were
accusing me of believing what they wrote.

Debbie

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Sent: Friday, June 10, 2005 2:23 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Friday humour


Yes, I read the whole thing.  Typical defend "the church" at all costs
rhetoric.  According to this group no scientist ever did anything right.

Don B.


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From Gustav at cactus.dk  Fri Jun 10 15:06:20 2005
From: Gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2005 22:06:20 +0200
Subject: [AccessD] Access on Macs
Message-ID: <s2aa0eef.075@cactus.dk>

Hi Steve

Install your app on a Windows Terminal Server or - for a few sessions
and running on a standard WinXP Pro:

http://www.thinsoftinc.com/products_winconserver_info.html 

The client for Mac is ready for download at MS:

/gustav

>>> scapistrant at symphonyinfo.com 06/09 7:11 pm >>>
I met yesterday with a prospect for our Access-based software product.
A fifth of their computers are Macs, the remainder PCs.  Based on what
I
have assumed for YEARS, I noted that it won't fly with the Mac users,
unless you buy some third party emulator, and even then I've heard
about
flaky behavior.

Yet they assured me that Macs can run all MS Office applications.  No
emulator.  Am I in the dark here?  Do Macs have a native MS Office
version?  If so, does it include Access?  And if so, can they work
seamlessly with an Access file generated from a PC, or is there some
format conversion that is required to create a Mac-enabled file?

Steve Capistrant



From cfoust at infostatsystems.com  Fri Jun 10 15:07:27 2005
From: cfoust at infostatsystems.com (Charlotte Foust)
Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2005 13:07:27 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Friday humour
Message-ID: <E61FC1D4B1918244905B113C680BEA86873A93@infoserver01.infostat.local>

Erm ... Am I wrong or was Coepernicus exonerated posthumously by the
Church?

Charlotte Foust


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Sent: Friday, June 10, 2005 12:23 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Friday humour


Yes, I read the whole thing.  Typical defend "the church" at all costs
rhetoric.  According to this group no scientist ever did anything right.

Don B.


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From Gustav at cactus.dk  Fri Jun 10 15:11:03 2005
From: Gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2005 22:11:03 +0200
Subject: [AccessD] Generating a rownumber field in a query
Message-ID: <s2aa1003.076@cactus.dk>

Hi Bruce

Here's a function for this purpose:

Public Function SequentialID( _
  ByVal booReset As Boolean, _
  Optional ByVal varDummy, _
  Optional ByVal intIncrement As Integer = 1, _
  Optional ByVal lngInitialID As Long) _
  As Long
  
  ' Increments static variable lngCurrentID with intIncrement.
  ' Returns the new value of lngCurrentID.
  ' Parameter varDummy is used to force repeated calls of
  ' this function when used in a query.
  '
  ' Reset to start counting from zero incrementing by one:
  '   Call SequentialID(True)
  ' Reset to start counting from 1000:
  '   Call SequentialID(True, Null, 1, 1000)
  ' Reset to start counting from zero incrementing by 2:
  '   Call SequentialID(True, Null, 2)
  ' Reset to start counting from -2000 incrementing by -8
  ' and returning initial ID:
  '   lngID = SequentialID(True, Null, -8, -2000)
  '
  ' Retrieve the current ID:
  '   lngID = SequentialID(False)
  ' Do a count by one and retrieve the current ID:
  '   lngID = SequentialID(False, Null, 1)
  ' Do a count by one in a query and retrieve the current ID:
  '   lngID = SequentialID(False, [fldAnyField], 1)
  ' Do a count by minus two and retrieve the current ID:
  '   lngID = SequentialID(False, varAny, -2)
  '
  ' 2001-12-13. Cactus Data ApS, CPH.
  
  Static lngCurrentID As Long
  Dim intSgn          As Integer
  
  If booReset = True Then
    ' Reset ID.
    lngCurrentID = lngInitialID
  ElseIf Not intIncrement = 0 Then
    intSgn = Sgn(intIncrement)
    If intSgn * lngCurrentID < intSgn * lngInitialID Then
      ' Reset ID.
      lngCurrentID = lngInitialID
    Else
      ' Increment ID.
      lngCurrentID = lngCurrentID + intIncrement
    End If
  End If
  
  SequentialID = lngCurrentID
  
End Function

/gustav

>>> Bruce.Bruen at railcorp.nsw.gov.au 06/10 4:08 am >>>
Hi folks,
 
I want to output a sequence number as a field in a query result.
Everytime the query runs it should restart the sequence number from 1.
 
The query appends rows to a "testscript" table, every new test cycle
we
generate a new set of test scripts which is made up of all the tests
in
the previous cycle plus new tests that were added during the execution
of the last cycle.  The natural key for the output table is the cycle
number + the sequence number.
 
Cycle    Seq    Testname .....   
   1          1        blah
   1          2        blah blah
...
   2          1        blah blah
   2          2        blah blah blah
etc
 
The cycle number is input as a parameter to the append query.  But how
can I generate the sequence numbers?



From drboz at pacbell.net  Fri Jun 10 15:23:40 2005
From: drboz at pacbell.net (Don Bozarth)
Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2005 13:23:40 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Friday humour
References: <7B1961ED924D1A459E378C9B1BB22B4C0492C98D@natexch.jenkens.com>
Message-ID: <001f01c56dfa$4a4b5630$6401a8c0@don>

Gawd no!  Sorry if you had that impression it certainly wasn't my intent.

Don B.

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Sent: Friday, June 10, 2005 1:05 PM
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Friday humour


> OK, you were talking about the original article.  I thought you were
> accusing me of believing what they wrote.
>
> Debbie
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Don Bozarth [mailto:drboz at pacbell.net]
> Sent: Friday, June 10, 2005 2:23 PM
> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] Friday humour
>
>
> Yes, I read the whole thing.  Typical defend "the church" at all costs
> rhetoric.  According to this group no scientist ever did anything right.
>
> Don B.
>
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From drboz at pacbell.net  Fri Jun 10 15:24:30 2005
From: drboz at pacbell.net (Don Bozarth)
Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2005 13:24:30 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Friday humour
References: <E61FC1D4B1918244905B113C680BEA86873A93@infoserver01.infostat.local>
Message-ID: <002701c56dfa$68081960$6401a8c0@don>

I belive he was... Galileo too.  Long after they had shed this mortal
coil...

Don B.

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From: "Charlotte Foust" <cfoust at infostatsystems.com>
To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving"
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Friday, June 10, 2005 1:07 PM
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Friday humour


> Erm ... Am I wrong or was Coepernicus exonerated posthumously by the
> Church?
>
> Charlotte Foust
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Don Bozarth [mailto:drboz at pacbell.net]
> Sent: Friday, June 10, 2005 12:23 PM
> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] Friday humour
>
>
> Yes, I read the whole thing.  Typical defend "the church" at all costs
> rhetoric.  According to this group no scientist ever did anything right.
>
> Don B.
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From BBarabash at TappeConstruction.com  Fri Jun 10 15:28:00 2005
From: BBarabash at TappeConstruction.com (Brett Barabash)
Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2005 15:28:00 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] RE: Friday humour
Message-ID: <100F91B31300334B89EC531C9DCB08659F77D5@tccexch01.tappeconstruction.net>

So I open up my inbox this afternoon, and I find 2 Friday "humor"
threads:

1. Science vs. Religion absurdist debate
2. "George W. Bush is so dumb" political rhetoric

Thank goodness that David McAfee tossed in an honest to goodness joke.
Offending people should be the least of your worries.  Boring them to
death is more likely.  ;-)

C'mon people, it's Friday.  Laugh a little!

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From BBarabash at TappeConstruction.com  Fri Jun 10 15:34:22 2005
From: BBarabash at TappeConstruction.com (Brett Barabash)
Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2005 15:34:22 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Friday humor, with 30% more real funny
Message-ID: <100F91B31300334B89EC531C9DCB08659F77D7@tccexch01.tappeconstruction.net>

Since I've done my share of complaining today, I need to back it up with
one of my favorites:

Analogies and Metaphors Found in School Essays, stupid but some funny:

His thoughts tumbled in his head, making and breaking alliances like
underpants in a dryer without Cling Free.

He spoke with the wisdom that can only come from experience, like a guy
who went blind because he looked at a solar eclipse without one of those
boxes with a pinhole in it and now goes around the country speaking at
high schools about the dangers of looking at a solar eclipse without one
of those boxes with a pinhole in it.

The little boat gently drifted across the pond exactly the way a bowling
ball wouldn't.

>From the attic came an unearthly howl. The whole scene had an eerie,
surreal quality, like when you're on vacation in another city and
"Jeopardy" comes on at 7:00 pm instead of 7:30.

Her hair glistened in the rain like nose hair after a sneeze.

Her eyes were like two brown circles with big black dots in the centre.

Her vocabulary was as bad as, like, whatever.

He was as tall as a six-foot-three-inch tree.

The hailstones leaped from the pavement, just like maggots when you fry
them in hot grease.

Long separated by cruel fate, the star-crossed lovers raced across the
grassy field toward each other like two freight trains, one having left
Cleveland at 6:36 p.m. travelling at 55 mph, the other from Topeka at
4:19 p.m. at a speed of 35 mph. 

The politician was gone but unnoticed, like the full stop after the Dr.
on a Dr Pepper can.

John and Mary had never met. They were like two hummingbirds who had
also never met.

The thunder was ominous sounding, much like the sound of a thin sheet of
metal being shaken backstage during the storm scene in a play. 

The red brick wall was the colour of a brick-red crayon.

He fell for her like his heart was a mob informant and she was the East
River.

Even in his last years, Grandpa had a mind like a steel trap, only one
that had been left ou
g, it had rusted shut.

The plan was simple, like my brother-in-law Phil. But unlike Phil, this
plan just might work.

The young fighter had a hungry look, the kind you get from not eating
for a while.

Her artistic sense was exquisitely refined, like someone who can tell
butter from I Can't Believe It's Not Butter.

She had a deep, throaty, genuine laugh like that sound a dog makes just
before it throws up.

It came down the stairs looking very much like something no one had ever
seen before.

The ballerina rose gracefully en pointe and extended one slender leg
behind her, like a dog at a fire hydrant.

It was an American tradition, like fathers chasing kids around with
power tools.

She was as easy as the "TV Guide" crossword.

She grew on him like she was a colony of E. coli and he was
room-temperature beef.

She walked into my office like a centipede with 98 missing legs.

It hurt - the way your tongue hurts after you accidentally staple it to
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From Jim.Hale at FleetPride.com  Fri Jun 10 15:34:25 2005
From: Jim.Hale at FleetPride.com (Hale, Jim)
Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2005 15:34:25 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] RE: Friday humour
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Ok, here is my contribution. This one didn't go through last week for some
reason.
Jim Hale

Classified Ads

Actually Taken From Classified Ad's In Newspapers: 

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---------------------------------- 
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----------------------------- 
FREE PUPPIES... Part German Shepherd, part stupid dog 
------------------------------ 
GERMAN SHEPHERD 85 lbs. Neutered. Speaks German. Free 
---------------------------------- 
FOUND: DIRTY WHITE DOG. Looks like a rat ... been out awhile. Better be 
reward. 
---------------------------------- 
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------------------------------- 
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---------------------------------- 
NICE PARACHUTE: Never opened - used once 
---------------------------------- 
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---------------------------------- 
(AND THE BEST ONE) 
FOR SALE BY OWNER: Complete set of Encyclopedia Britannica. 45 volumes. 
Excellent condition. $1,000 or best offer. No longer needed. Got married 
last month. Wife knows everything. 

-----Original Message-----
From: Brett Barabash [mailto:BBarabash at tappeconstruction.com]
Sent: Friday, June 10, 2005 3:28 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: [AccessD] RE: Friday humour


So I open up my inbox this afternoon, and I find 2 Friday "humor"
threads:

1. Science vs. Religion absurdist debate
2. "George W. Bush is so dumb" political rhetoric

Thank goodness that David McAfee tossed in an honest to goodness joke.
Offending people should be the least of your worries.  Boring them to
death is more likely.  ;-)

C'mon people, it's Friday.  Laugh a little!

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From Jim.Hale at FleetPride.com  Fri Jun 10 15:47:04 2005
From: Jim.Hale at FleetPride.com (Hale, Jim)
Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2005 15:47:04 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Friday humor, with 30% more real funny
Message-ID: <6A6AA9DF57E4F046BDA1E273BDDB6772337653@corp-es01.fleetpride.com>

LOL thanks I needed that today
Jim Hale

-----Original Message-----
From: Brett Barabash [mailto:BBarabash at tappeconstruction.com]
Sent: Friday, June 10, 2005 3:34 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: [AccessD] Friday humor, with 30% more real funny


Since I've done my share of complaining today, I need to back it up with
one of my favorites:

Analogies and Metaphors Found in School Essays, stupid but some funny:

His thoughts tumbled in his head, making and breaking alliances like
underpants in a dryer without Cling Free.

He spoke with the wisdom that can only come from experience, like a guy
who went blind because he looked at a solar eclipse without one of those
boxes with a pinhole in it and now goes around the country speaking at
high schools about the dangers of looking at a solar eclipse without one
of those boxes with a pinhole in it.

The little boat gently drifted across the pond exactly the way a bowling
ball wouldn't.

>From the attic came an unearthly howl. The whole scene had an eerie,
surreal quality, like when you're on vacation in another city and
"Jeopardy" comes on at 7:00 pm instead of 7:30.

Her hair glistened in the rain like nose hair after a sneeze.

Her eyes were like two brown circles with big black dots in the centre.

Her vocabulary was as bad as, like, whatever.

He was as tall as a six-foot-three-inch tree.

The hailstones leaped from the pavement, just like maggots when you fry
them in hot grease.

Long separated by cruel fate, the star-crossed lovers raced across the
grassy field toward each other like two freight trains, one having left
Cleveland at 6:36 p.m. travelling at 55 mph, the other from Topeka at
4:19 p.m. at a speed of 35 mph. 

The politician was gone but unnoticed, like the full stop after the Dr.
on a Dr Pepper can.

John and Mary had never met. They were like two hummingbirds who had
also never met.

The thunder was ominous sounding, much like the sound of a thin sheet of
metal being shaken backstage during the storm scene in a play. 

The red brick wall was the colour of a brick-red crayon.

He fell for her like his heart was a mob informant and she was the East
River.

Even in his last years, Grandpa had a mind like a steel trap, only one
that had been left ou
g, it had rusted shut.

The plan was simple, like my brother-in-law Phil. But unlike Phil, this
plan just might work.

The young fighter had a hungry look, the kind you get from not eating
for a while.

Her artistic sense was exquisitely refined, like someone who can tell
butter from I Can't Believe It's Not Butter.

She had a deep, throaty, genuine laugh like that sound a dog makes just
before it throws up.

It came down the stairs looking very much like something no one had ever
seen before.

The ballerina rose gracefully en pointe and extended one slender leg
behind her, like a dog at a fire hydrant.

It was an American tradition, like fathers chasing kids around with
power tools.

She was as easy as the "TV Guide" crossword.

She grew on him like she was a colony of E. coli and he was
room-temperature beef.

She walked into my office like a centipede with 98 missing legs.

It hurt - the way your tongue hurts after you accidentally staple it to
the wall.

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From Drawbridge.Jack at ic.gc.ca  Fri Jun 10 15:54:30 2005
From: Drawbridge.Jack at ic.gc.ca (Drawbridge, Jack: #CIO - BPI)
Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2005 16:54:30 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Automating - IE6 - File Save As
Message-ID: <0F3AFAE449DD4A40BED8B6C4A97ABF5B0298AABB@MSG-MB3.icent.ic.gc.ca>

Have had no responses with original post. I believe it is a question of automating IE, and how to get to CommonDialog in order to do the File Save As.

IE does a fantastic job of removing relative links and downloading a clean set of files when using the File Save As webpage complete option. I do not want to do the File saves manually. There must be a means to automate this in VBA???

Any advice/help on this would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks,

jack

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Drawbridge,
Jack: #CIO - BPI
Sent: Thursday, June 2, 2005 3:01 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: [AccessD] A2K talking to IE6 - File Save As


Looking for help/advice or sample code to open IE6 from code in A2K. Am interested in how to do a File| Save As Webpage, Complete.
We have a database of 60000 companies and want to put extracts of selected 100-500 companies (html and graphics etc) onto a CD for use with Offline Browser.

Can not figure out how to get to IE6 File | Save As.

I have some code to open a page with IE browser and save all the links on the page.

Any help would be appreciated.

TIA 

jack

'---- CODE to GET the Links from a given page ----
'---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
' Procedure : GetLinks
' DateTime  : 2005-06-02 14:19
' Author    :
' Purpose   : get all links from a named webpage URL
'---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
'
Sub GetLinks()

' ** need to set a reference to
' ** Microsoft Internet Controls

    Dim IeApp As InternetExplorer
    Dim sURL As String
    Dim IeDoc As Object
    Dim i As Long
    
   'Create new instance of IE
    Set IeApp = New InternetExplorer
    
    'May wish to make IeApp visible
    'apparently some things don't work
    'unless it's visible
    IeApp.Visible = False
    
    'define the page to open
    sURL = "www.diligens.com"
    
    'navigate to the page based on URL
    IeApp.Navigate sURL
   
    'Pause until the webpage is completely loaded
    Do
    Loop Until IeApp.ReadyState = READYSTATE_COMPLETE
    
    'Create instance of Document object
    Set IeDoc = IeApp.Document
  
    'Loop through the document's links collection.
    For i = 0 To IeDoc.links.Length - 1
        Debug.Print IeDoc.links(i).href
    Next i
    
    'Clean up
    Set IeApp = Nothing
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From Lambert.Heenan at AIG.com  Fri Jun 10 15:54:37 2005
From: Lambert.Heenan at AIG.com (Heenan, Lambert)
Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2005 16:54:37 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Friday humour
Message-ID: <1D7828CDB8350747AFE9D69E0E90DA1F1176C3A2@xlivmbx21.aig.com>

In Kansas they add Creationism to the school curriculum in order not to
offend one specific group of people. That doesn't make it right either.

On the whole though I agree with your comment. I especially do not like to
see politics being discussed in a software developer's group, but every rule
has its exceptions and pointing out the lunacy of the religions of this
world (not just Christina ones) is an exception for me.

Politicians can be voted out of office. Religious nuts want us to vote our
brains out of office. But of course they never say that they are willing to
give up all the benefits and comforts that the hateful world of science has
given them - like the internet where they can publish their rubbish to the
hearts content, where no paper and glue publisher would have touched it, and
the computers they use to do it with. This despite the fact that it is
heretical scientific research that made it all possible. Not one single
solitary advance in human technology has come out of the world of religion.
Stone tools, metal tools, agriculture, writing, you name it, they all came
out of human needs.

Lambert

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Charlotte Foust
Sent: Friday, June 10, 2005 4:03 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Friday humour


Friends,

In Woody's Lounge, we axe threads like this to avoid offending anyone,
however misinformed they might be in their beliefs.  Is there an equivalent
rule in this list?  I get very twitchy when conversations wander into the
areas of religion and politics, since they tend to deteriorate into name
calling and flames.

Charlotte Foust


-----Original Message-----
From: Heenan, Lambert [mailto:Lambert.Heenan at aig.com] 
Sent: Friday, June 10, 2005 11:49 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Friday humour


Anyone care to tell us how the Earth Centric types explain stellar parallax?
Or do they simply deny its existence as their various 'good books' refer to
the 'fixed stars'?


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Elam, Debbie
Sent: Friday, June 10, 2005 2:39 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Friday humour


No it does not throw it out the window, it just makes the lovely and simple
orbital mechanics equations into monster equations that take a super
computer to calculate with any proficiency.  Of course those other planets
just orbit around the sun while the whole mess orbits around the Earth ;-).
That was the real reason it became obvious that the best method of
calculation was to put the sun in the center of the system. The whole mess
with the rings was to account for planetary movements. It is a little like
the headaches caused when you try to take the Earth's total motion into
account when compared to the motion of another star in the milky way galaxy
which is all rotating around a cluster of stars in the galaxy center.  Much
more pleasant to break it into chunks and consider the solar system a single
unit when talking about motion with respect to the galaxy.

Debbie

-----Original Message-----
From: Don Bozarth [mailto:drboz at pacbell.net] 
Sent: Friday, June 10, 2005 1:25 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Friday humour


Well, if the solar system is Earth centered, a lot of the math dealing with
planetary motion goes right out the window... not to mention that little
sniggle called gravity.  The math of orbital mechanics suddenly disappears.
Were all that math wrong, we could never have made it to the Moon, Venus,
Mars, Jupiter, Saturn, and Uranus those places manmade satellites have
visited.

Don B.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Elam, Debbie" <DElam at jenkens.com>
To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'"
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Friday, June 10, 2005 11:14 AM
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Friday humour


> Actually they are right.  The whole thing comes down to perspective. 
> Of course the math is a heck of a lot easier if you simply consider 
> the sun
the
> center around which the solar system revolves.  In this case as many
others,
> why not go with the simplest answer that gives the most correct
predictions?
> Why complicate the issue by insisting that a certain perspective has 
> to be maintained?  Groan, no doubt they will call it proof.  Of course

> the
reverse
> is just as true.  No one can prove that the sun revolves around the 
> Earth, but that is a minor detail.
>
> Debbie
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jim Lawrence [mailto:accessd at shaw.ca]
> Sent: Friday, June 10, 2005 1:00 PM
> To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
> Subject: [AccessD] Friday humour
>
>
> Hi All:
>
> When first read I thought this was a joke... but I think it is for 
> real; which of course would make it more hilarious. Check this out: 
> http://www.catholicintl.com/epologetics/articles/science/geochallenge.
> htm
>
> Jim
>
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From cfoust at infostatsystems.com  Fri Jun 10 16:04:31 2005
From: cfoust at infostatsystems.com (Charlotte Foust)
Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2005 14:04:31 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Friday humour
Message-ID: <E61FC1D4B1918244905B113C680BEA86873A95@infoserver01.infostat.local>

That didn't prevent any arguments, it started more and offended more
people than it satisfied.  I am areligious and largely apolitical, so I
am only offended by a lack of common sense and basic courtesy.  I just
think it is playing with fire to discuss these topics in a public
playground where fistfights are discouraged.  <g>

Charlotte Foust


-----Original Message-----
From: Heenan, Lambert [mailto:Lambert.Heenan at aig.com] 
Sent: Friday, June 10, 2005 1:55 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Friday humour


In Kansas they add Creationism to the school curriculum in order not to
offend one specific group of people. That doesn't make it right either.

On the whole though I agree with your comment. I especially do not like
to see politics being discussed in a software developer's group, but
every rule has its exceptions and pointing out the lunacy of the
religions of this world (not just Christina ones) is an exception for
me.

Politicians can be voted out of office. Religious nuts want us to vote
our brains out of office. But of course they never say that they are
willing to give up all the benefits and comforts that the hateful world
of science has given them - like the internet where they can publish
their rubbish to the hearts content, where no paper and glue publisher
would have touched it, and the computers they use to do it with. This
despite the fact that it is heretical scientific research that made it
all possible. Not one single solitary advance in human technology has
come out of the world of religion. Stone tools, metal tools,
agriculture, writing, you name it, they all came out of human needs.

Lambert

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Charlotte
Foust
Sent: Friday, June 10, 2005 4:03 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Friday humour


Friends,

In Woody's Lounge, we axe threads like this to avoid offending anyone,
however misinformed they might be in their beliefs.  Is there an
equivalent rule in this list?  I get very twitchy when conversations
wander into the areas of religion and politics, since they tend to
deteriorate into name calling and flames.

Charlotte Foust


-----Original Message-----
From: Heenan, Lambert [mailto:Lambert.Heenan at aig.com] 
Sent: Friday, June 10, 2005 11:49 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Friday humour


Anyone care to tell us how the Earth Centric types explain stellar
parallax? Or do they simply deny its existence as their various 'good
books' refer to the 'fixed stars'?


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Elam, Debbie
Sent: Friday, June 10, 2005 2:39 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Friday humour


No it does not throw it out the window, it just makes the lovely and
simple orbital mechanics equations into monster equations that take a
super computer to calculate with any proficiency.  Of course those other
planets just orbit around the sun while the whole mess orbits around the
Earth ;-). That was the real reason it became obvious that the best
method of calculation was to put the sun in the center of the system.
The whole mess with the rings was to account for planetary movements. It
is a little like the headaches caused when you try to take the Earth's
total motion into account when compared to the motion of another star in
the milky way galaxy which is all rotating around a cluster of stars in
the galaxy center.  Much more pleasant to break it into chunks and
consider the solar system a single unit when talking about motion with
respect to the galaxy.

Debbie

-----Original Message-----
From: Don Bozarth [mailto:drboz at pacbell.net] 
Sent: Friday, June 10, 2005 1:25 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Friday humour


Well, if the solar system is Earth centered, a lot of the math dealing
with planetary motion goes right out the window... not to mention that
little sniggle called gravity.  The math of orbital mechanics suddenly
disappears. Were all that math wrong, we could never have made it to the
Moon, Venus, Mars, Jupiter, Saturn, and Uranus those places manmade
satellites have visited.

Don B.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Elam, Debbie" <DElam at jenkens.com>
To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'"
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Friday, June 10, 2005 11:14 AM
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Friday humour


> Actually they are right.  The whole thing comes down to perspective.
> Of course the math is a heck of a lot easier if you simply consider 
> the sun
the
> center around which the solar system revolves.  In this case as many
others,
> why not go with the simplest answer that gives the most correct
predictions?
> Why complicate the issue by insisting that a certain perspective has
> to be maintained?  Groan, no doubt they will call it proof.  Of course

> the
reverse
> is just as true.  No one can prove that the sun revolves around the
> Earth, but that is a minor detail.
>
> Debbie
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jim Lawrence [mailto:accessd at shaw.ca]
> Sent: Friday, June 10, 2005 1:00 PM
> To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
> Subject: [AccessD] Friday humour
>
>
> Hi All:
>
> When first read I thought this was a joke... but I think it is for
> real; which of course would make it more hilarious. Check this out: 
> http://www.catholicintl.com/epologetics/articles/science/geochallenge.
> htm
>
> Jim
>
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From Lambert.Heenan at AIG.com  Fri Jun 10 16:18:27 2005
From: Lambert.Heenan at AIG.com (Heenan, Lambert)
Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2005 17:18:27 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Friday humour
Message-ID: <1D7828CDB8350747AFE9D69E0E90DA1F1176C3B8@xlivmbx21.aig.com>

My last comment on this (honest!!! <vbg>)

I'm wholeheartedly atheist, but I certainly not apolitical. I believe that
everyone should be involved in the political process because politics
impacts everyone. But this is not the place for politics.

The Kansas situation may have offended more people than it satisfied, but
still the stickers are in the school books. It seems enough Kansans were
convinced that they voted in the measure, and to hell with the unbelievers.
This country is being taken over by religious
fanatics/extemists/nutters/fools (you choose) who's agenda has nothing at
all to do with the common good and everything to do with their desire for
power. Power of you, me, your dog and cat, and ultimately the rest of the
world. 

Lambert

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Charlotte Foust
Sent: Friday, June 10, 2005 5:05 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Friday humour


That didn't prevent any arguments, it started more and offended more people
than it satisfied.  I am areligious and largely apolitical, so I am only
offended by a lack of common sense and basic courtesy.  I just think it is
playing with fire to discuss these topics in a public playground where
fistfights are discouraged.  <g>

Charlotte Foust


-----Original Message-----
From: Heenan, Lambert [mailto:Lambert.Heenan at aig.com] 
Sent: Friday, June 10, 2005 1:55 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Friday humour


In Kansas they add Creationism to the school curriculum in order not to
offend one specific group of people. That doesn't make it right either.

On the whole though I agree with your comment. I especially do not like to
see politics being discussed in a software developer's group, but every rule
has its exceptions and pointing out the lunacy of the religions of this
world (not just Christina ones) is an exception for me.

Politicians can be voted out of office. Religious nuts want us to vote our
brains out of office. But of course they never say that they are willing to
give up all the benefits and comforts that the hateful world of science has
given them - like the internet where they can publish their rubbish to the
hearts content, where no paper and glue publisher would have touched it, and
the computers they use to do it with. This despite the fact that it is
heretical scientific research that made it all possible. Not one single
solitary advance in human technology has come out of the world of religion.
Stone tools, metal tools, agriculture, writing, you name it, they all came
out of human needs.

Lambert

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Charlotte Foust
Sent: Friday, June 10, 2005 4:03 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Friday humour


Friends,

In Woody's Lounge, we axe threads like this to avoid offending anyone,
however misinformed they might be in their beliefs.  Is there an equivalent
rule in this list?  I get very twitchy when conversations wander into the
areas of religion and politics, since they tend to deteriorate into name
calling and flames.

Charlotte Foust


-----Original Message-----
From: Heenan, Lambert [mailto:Lambert.Heenan at aig.com] 
Sent: Friday, June 10, 2005 11:49 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Friday humour


Anyone care to tell us how the Earth Centric types explain stellar parallax?
Or do they simply deny its existence as their various 'good books' refer to
the 'fixed stars'?


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Elam, Debbie
Sent: Friday, June 10, 2005 2:39 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Friday humour


No it does not throw it out the window, it just makes the lovely and simple
orbital mechanics equations into monster equations that take a super
computer to calculate with any proficiency.  Of course those other planets
just orbit around the sun while the whole mess orbits around the Earth ;-).
That was the real reason it became obvious that the best method of
calculation was to put the sun in the center of the system. The whole mess
with the rings was to account for planetary movements. It is a little like
the headaches caused when you try to take the Earth's total motion into
account when compared to the motion of another star in the milky way galaxy
which is all rotating around a cluster of stars in the galaxy center.  Much
more pleasant to break it into chunks and consider the solar system a single
unit when talking about motion with respect to the galaxy.

Debbie

-----Original Message-----
From: Don Bozarth [mailto:drboz at pacbell.net] 
Sent: Friday, June 10, 2005 1:25 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Friday humour


Well, if the solar system is Earth centered, a lot of the math dealing with
planetary motion goes right out the window... not to mention that little
sniggle called gravity.  The math of orbital mechanics suddenly disappears.
Were all that math wrong, we could never have made it to the Moon, Venus,
Mars, Jupiter, Saturn, and Uranus those places manmade satellites have
visited.

Don B.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Elam, Debbie" <DElam at jenkens.com>
To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'"
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Friday, June 10, 2005 11:14 AM
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Friday humour


> Actually they are right.  The whole thing comes down to perspective. 
> Of course the math is a heck of a lot easier if you simply consider 
> the sun
the
> center around which the solar system revolves.  In this case as many
others,
> why not go with the simplest answer that gives the most correct
predictions?
> Why complicate the issue by insisting that a certain perspective has 
> to be maintained?  Groan, no doubt they will call it proof.  Of course

> the
reverse
> is just as true.  No one can prove that the sun revolves around the 
> Earth, but that is a minor detail.
>
> Debbie
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jim Lawrence [mailto:accessd at shaw.ca]
> Sent: Friday, June 10, 2005 1:00 PM
> To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
> Subject: [AccessD] Friday humour
>
>
> Hi All:
>
> When first read I thought this was a joke... but I think it is for 
> real; which of course would make it more hilarious. Check this out: 
> http://www.catholicintl.com/epologetics/articles/science/geochallenge.
> htm
>
> Jim
>
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From stuart at lexacorp.com.pg  Fri Jun 10 16:45:49 2005
From: stuart at lexacorp.com.pg (Stuart McLachlan)
Date: Sat, 11 Jun 2005 07:45:49 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] Friday humour
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On 10 Jun 2005 at 13:39, Elam, Debbie wrote:

> with the rings was to account for planetary movements.  It is a little like
> the headaches caused when you try to take the Earth's total motion into
> account when compared to the motion of another star in the milky way galaxy
> which is all rotating around a cluster of stars in the galaxy center.  


Just remember that you're standing on a planet that's evolving
and revolving at 900 miles an hour,
It's orbiting at 19 miles a second, so it's reckoned,
the sun that is the source of all our power.
The Sun and you and me, and all the stars that we can see,
are moving at a million miles a day,
In the outer spiral arm, at 40,000 miles an hour,
of the Galaxy we call the Milky Way.

Our Galaxy itself contains 100 billion stars,
it's 100,000 light-years side-to-side,
It bulges in the middle, 16 000 light-years thick,
but out by us it's just 3 000 light-years wide.
We're 30,000 light-years from galactic central point,
we go round every 200 million years,
And our galaxy is only one of millions of billions
in this amazing and expanding universe.

The universe itself keeps on expanding and expanding,
in all of the directions it can whizz,
As fast as it can go, at the speed of light you know,
twelve million miles a minute, and that's the fastest speed there is.
So remember, when you're feeling very small and insecure,
how amazingly unlikely is your birth,
Pray that there's intelligent life somewhere up in space,
because there's bugger all down here on Earth.

The Galaxy Song
Composers: Eric Idle & John Du Prez
Author: Eric Idle 
>From the movie "Monty Python's Meaning of Life"-- 
Stuart




From dejpolsys at hotmail.com  Fri Jun 10 16:49:53 2005
From: dejpolsys at hotmail.com (William Hindman)
Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2005 17:49:53 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] MODERATOR NEEDED NOW!!! /was Friday humour
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Message-ID: <BAY103-DAV66F3752853C6FDC089A31AEFF0@phx.gbl>

..can somebody with a smattering of common sense please delete this.

..OT is the place for this ...not AccessD.

William

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Heenan, Lambert" <Lambert.Heenan at aig.com>
To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'" 
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Friday, June 10, 2005 5:18 PM
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Friday humour


> My last comment on this (honest!!! <vbg>)
>
> I'm wholeheartedly atheist, but I certainly not apolitical. I believe that
> everyone should be involved in the political process because politics
> impacts everyone. But this is not the place for politics.
>
> The Kansas situation may have offended more people than it satisfied, but
> still the stickers are in the school books. It seems enough Kansans were
> convinced that they voted in the measure, and to hell with the 
> unbelievers.
> This country is being taken over by religious
> fanatics/extemists/nutters/fools (you choose) who's agenda has nothing at
> all to do with the common good and everything to do with their desire for
> power. Power of you, me, your dog and cat, and ultimately the rest of the
> world.
>
> Lambert
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Charlotte Foust
> Sent: Friday, June 10, 2005 5:05 PM
> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> Subject: RE: [AccessD] Friday humour
>
>
> That didn't prevent any arguments, it started more and offended more 
> people
> than it satisfied.  I am areligious and largely apolitical, so I am only
> offended by a lack of common sense and basic courtesy.  I just think it is
> playing with fire to discuss these topics in a public playground where
> fistfights are discouraged.  <g>
>
> Charlotte Foust
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Heenan, Lambert [mailto:Lambert.Heenan at aig.com]
> Sent: Friday, June 10, 2005 1:55 PM
> To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
> Subject: RE: [AccessD] Friday humour
>
>
> In Kansas they add Creationism to the school curriculum in order not to
> offend one specific group of people. That doesn't make it right either.
>
> On the whole though I agree with your comment. I especially do not like to
> see politics being discussed in a software developer's group, but every 
> rule
> has its exceptions and pointing out the lunacy of the religions of this
> world (not just Christina ones) is an exception for me.
>
> Politicians can be voted out of office. Religious nuts want us to vote our
> brains out of office. But of course they never say that they are willing 
> to
> give up all the benefits and comforts that the hateful world of science 
> has
> given them - like the internet where they can publish their rubbish to the
> hearts content, where no paper and glue publisher would have touched it, 
> and
> the computers they use to do it with. This despite the fact that it is
> heretical scientific research that made it all possible. Not one single
> solitary advance in human technology has come out of the world of 
> religion.
> Stone tools, metal tools, agriculture, writing, you name it, they all came
> out of human needs.
>
> Lambert
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Charlotte Foust
> Sent: Friday, June 10, 2005 4:03 PM
> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> Subject: RE: [AccessD] Friday humour
>
>
> Friends,
>
> In Woody's Lounge, we axe threads like this to avoid offending anyone,
> however misinformed they might be in their beliefs.  Is there an 
> equivalent
> rule in this list?  I get very twitchy when conversations wander into the
> areas of religion and politics, since they tend to deteriorate into name
> calling and flames.
>
> Charlotte Foust
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Heenan, Lambert [mailto:Lambert.Heenan at aig.com]
> Sent: Friday, June 10, 2005 11:49 AM
> To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
> Subject: RE: [AccessD] Friday humour
>
>
> Anyone care to tell us how the Earth Centric types explain stellar 
> parallax?
> Or do they simply deny its existence as their various 'good books' refer 
> to
> the 'fixed stars'?
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Elam, Debbie
> Sent: Friday, June 10, 2005 2:39 PM
> To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
> Subject: RE: [AccessD] Friday humour
>
>
> No it does not throw it out the window, it just makes the lovely and 
> simple
> orbital mechanics equations into monster equations that take a super
> computer to calculate with any proficiency.  Of course those other planets
> just orbit around the sun while the whole mess orbits around the Earth 
> ;-).
> That was the real reason it became obvious that the best method of
> calculation was to put the sun in the center of the system. The whole mess
> with the rings was to account for planetary movements. It is a little like
> the headaches caused when you try to take the Earth's total motion into
> account when compared to the motion of another star in the milky way 
> galaxy
> which is all rotating around a cluster of stars in the galaxy center. 
> Much
> more pleasant to break it into chunks and consider the solar system a 
> single
> unit when talking about motion with respect to the galaxy.
>
> Debbie
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Don Bozarth [mailto:drboz at pacbell.net]
> Sent: Friday, June 10, 2005 1:25 PM
> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] Friday humour
>
>
> Well, if the solar system is Earth centered, a lot of the math dealing 
> with
> planetary motion goes right out the window... not to mention that little
> sniggle called gravity.  The math of orbital mechanics suddenly 
> disappears.
> Were all that math wrong, we could never have made it to the Moon, Venus,
> Mars, Jupiter, Saturn, and Uranus those places manmade satellites have
> visited.
>
> Don B.
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Elam, Debbie" <DElam at jenkens.com>
> To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'"
> <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
> Sent: Friday, June 10, 2005 11:14 AM
> Subject: RE: [AccessD] Friday humour
>
>
>> Actually they are right.  The whole thing comes down to perspective.
>> Of course the math is a heck of a lot easier if you simply consider
>> the sun
> the
>> center around which the solar system revolves.  In this case as many
> others,
>> why not go with the simplest answer that gives the most correct
> predictions?
>> Why complicate the issue by insisting that a certain perspective has
>> to be maintained?  Groan, no doubt they will call it proof.  Of course
>
>> the
> reverse
>> is just as true.  No one can prove that the sun revolves around the
>> Earth, but that is a minor detail.
>>
>> Debbie
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Jim Lawrence [mailto:accessd at shaw.ca]
>> Sent: Friday, June 10, 2005 1:00 PM
>> To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
>> Subject: [AccessD] Friday humour
>>
>>
>> Hi All:
>>
>> When first read I thought this was a joke... but I think it is for
>> real; which of course would make it more hilarious. Check this out:
>> http://www.catholicintl.com/epologetics/articles/science/geochallenge.
>> htm
>>
>> Jim
>>
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From dejpolsys at hotmail.com  Fri Jun 10 16:53:11 2005
From: dejpolsys at hotmail.com (William Hindman)
Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2005 17:53:11 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Automating - IE6 - File Save As
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http://www.vbaexpress.com/forum/archive/index.php?t-863.html
..hth

William

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From: "Drawbridge, Jack: #CIO - BPI" <Drawbridge.Jack at ic.gc.ca>
To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving" 
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Sent: Friday, June 10, 2005 4:54 PM
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Automating - IE6 - File Save As


> Have had no responses with original post. I believe it is a question of 
> automating IE, and how to get to CommonDialog in order to do the File Save 
> As.
>
> IE does a fantastic job of removing relative links and downloading a clean 
> set of files when using the File Save As webpage complete option. I do not 
> want to do the File saves manually. There must be a means to automate this 
> in VBA???
>
> Any advice/help on this would be greatly appreciated.
>
> Thanks,
>
> jack
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Drawbridge,
> Jack: #CIO - BPI
> Sent: Thursday, June 2, 2005 3:01 PM
> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> Subject: [AccessD] A2K talking to IE6 - File Save As
>
>
> Looking for help/advice or sample code to open IE6 from code in A2K. Am 
> interested in how to do a File| Save As Webpage, Complete.
> We have a database of 60000 companies and want to put extracts of selected 
> 100-500 companies (html and graphics etc) onto a CD for use with Offline 
> Browser.
>
> Can not figure out how to get to IE6 File | Save As.
>
> I have some code to open a page with IE browser and save all the links on 
> the page.
>
> Any help would be appreciated.
>
> TIA
>
> jack
>
> '---- CODE to GET the Links from a given page ----
> '---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> ' Procedure : GetLinks
> ' DateTime  : 2005-06-02 14:19
> ' Author    :
> ' Purpose   : get all links from a named webpage URL
> '---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> '
> Sub GetLinks()
>
> ' ** need to set a reference to
> ' ** Microsoft Internet Controls
>
>    Dim IeApp As InternetExplorer
>    Dim sURL As String
>    Dim IeDoc As Object
>    Dim i As Long
>
>   'Create new instance of IE
>    Set IeApp = New InternetExplorer
>
>    'May wish to make IeApp visible
>    'apparently some things don't work
>    'unless it's visible
>    IeApp.Visible = False
>
>    'define the page to open
>    sURL = "www.diligens.com"
>
>    'navigate to the page based on URL
>    IeApp.Navigate sURL
>
>    'Pause until the webpage is completely loaded
>    Do
>    Loop Until IeApp.ReadyState = READYSTATE_COMPLETE
>
>    'Create instance of Document object
>    Set IeDoc = IeApp.Document
>
>    'Loop through the document's links collection.
>    For i = 0 To IeDoc.links.Length - 1
>        Debug.Print IeDoc.links(i).href
>    Next i
>
>    'Clean up
>    Set IeApp = Nothing
>    Set IeDoc = Nothing
> End Sub
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From ssharkins at bellsouth.net  Fri Jun 10 16:54:05 2005
From: ssharkins at bellsouth.net (Susan Harkins)
Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2005 17:54:05 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] MODERATOR NEEDED NOW!!! /was Friday humour
In-Reply-To: <BAY103-DAV66F3752853C6FDC089A31AEFF0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <20050610215409.GVS4468.ibm61aec.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>

If you need a second, I'll second that, and third it, and fourth it...
<slap> <breathe>

Frankly, Lambert was rather tart, even by OT standards! ;)  

Susan H. 

..can somebody with a smattering of common sense please delete this.

..OT is the place for this ...not AccessD.




From dejpolsys at hotmail.com  Fri Jun 10 17:03:44 2005
From: dejpolsys at hotmail.com (William Hindman)
Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2005 18:03:44 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] MODERATOR NEEDED NOW!!! /was Friday humour
References: <20050610215409.GVS4468.ibm61aec.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>
Message-ID: <BAY103-DAV1835A8699980F9CB9A8D54AEFF0@phx.gbl>

..OT has standards? :)

William

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From: "Susan Harkins" <ssharkins at bellsouth.net>
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<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Friday, June 10, 2005 5:54 PM
Subject: RE: [AccessD] MODERATOR NEEDED NOW!!! /was Friday humour


> If you need a second, I'll second that, and third it, and fourth it...
> <slap> <breathe>
>
> Frankly, Lambert was rather tart, even by OT standards! ;)
>
> Susan H.
>
> ..can somebody with a smattering of common sense please delete this.
>
> ..OT is the place for this ...not AccessD.
>
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From dejpolsys at hotmail.com  Fri Jun 10 17:06:41 2005
From: dejpolsys at hotmail.com (William Hindman)
Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2005 18:06:41 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Automating - IE6 - File Save As
References: <0F3AFAE449DD4A40BED8B6C4A97ABF5B0298AABB@MSG-MB3.icent.ic.gc.ca>
	<BAY103-DAV173D5C17FEB849A9E1D8C8AEFF0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <BAY103-DAV1333A989BE02B5AE6D96B5AEFF0@phx.gbl>

..oops ...wrong link ...should have been:
http://www.vbaexpress.com/forum/archive/index.php?t-3484.html

William
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "William Hindman" <dejpolsys at hotmail.com>
To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving" 
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Friday, June 10, 2005 5:53 PM
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Automating - IE6 - File Save As


> http://www.vbaexpress.com/forum/archive/index.php?t-863.html
> ..hth
>
> William
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Drawbridge, Jack: #CIO - BPI" <Drawbridge.Jack at ic.gc.ca>
> To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving" 
> <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
> Sent: Friday, June 10, 2005 4:54 PM
> Subject: RE: [AccessD] Automating - IE6 - File Save As
>
>
>> Have had no responses with original post. I believe it is a question of 
>> automating IE, and how to get to CommonDialog in order to do the File 
>> Save As.
>>
>> IE does a fantastic job of removing relative links and downloading a 
>> clean set of files when using the File Save As webpage complete option. I 
>> do not want to do the File saves manually. There must be a means to 
>> automate this in VBA???
>>
>> Any advice/help on this would be greatly appreciated.
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> jack
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Drawbridge,
>> Jack: #CIO - BPI
>> Sent: Thursday, June 2, 2005 3:01 PM
>> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
>> Subject: [AccessD] A2K talking to IE6 - File Save As
>>
>>
>> Looking for help/advice or sample code to open IE6 from code in A2K. Am 
>> interested in how to do a File| Save As Webpage, Complete.
>> We have a database of 60000 companies and want to put extracts of 
>> selected 100-500 companies (html and graphics etc) onto a CD for use with 
>> Offline Browser.
>>
>> Can not figure out how to get to IE6 File | Save As.
>>
>> I have some code to open a page with IE browser and save all the links on 
>> the page.
>>
>> Any help would be appreciated.
>>
>> TIA
>>
>> jack
>>
>> '---- CODE to GET the Links from a given page ----
>> '---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>> ' Procedure : GetLinks
>> ' DateTime  : 2005-06-02 14:19
>> ' Author    :
>> ' Purpose   : get all links from a named webpage URL
>> '---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>> '
>> Sub GetLinks()
>>
>> ' ** need to set a reference to
>> ' ** Microsoft Internet Controls
>>
>>    Dim IeApp As InternetExplorer
>>    Dim sURL As String
>>    Dim IeDoc As Object
>>    Dim i As Long
>>
>>   'Create new instance of IE
>>    Set IeApp = New InternetExplorer
>>
>>    'May wish to make IeApp visible
>>    'apparently some things don't work
>>    'unless it's visible
>>    IeApp.Visible = False
>>
>>    'define the page to open
>>    sURL = "www.diligens.com"
>>
>>    'navigate to the page based on URL
>>    IeApp.Navigate sURL
>>
>>    'Pause until the webpage is completely loaded
>>    Do
>>    Loop Until IeApp.ReadyState = READYSTATE_COMPLETE
>>
>>    'Create instance of Document object
>>    Set IeDoc = IeApp.Document
>>
>>    'Loop through the document's links collection.
>>    For i = 0 To IeDoc.links.Length - 1
>>        Debug.Print IeDoc.links(i).href
>>    Next i
>>
>>    'Clean up
>>    Set IeApp = Nothing
>>    Set IeDoc = Nothing
>> End Sub
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From cfoust at infostatsystems.com  Fri Jun 10 17:32:35 2005
From: cfoust at infostatsystems.com (Charlotte Foust)
Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2005 15:32:35 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Friday humour
Message-ID: <E61FC1D4B1918244905B113C680BEA86873A96@infoserver01.infostat.local>

Oh, I take politics seriously, but I can't bring myself to take
*politicians* seriously.  I think they're all crooks, which is what I
mean by "apolitical".  I don't support any of them. <g>

Charlotte Foust


-----Original Message-----
From: Heenan, Lambert [mailto:Lambert.Heenan at aig.com] 
Sent: Friday, June 10, 2005 2:18 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Friday humour


My last comment on this (honest!!! <vbg>)

I'm wholeheartedly atheist, but I certainly not apolitical. I believe
that everyone should be involved in the political process because
politics impacts everyone. But this is not the place for politics.

The Kansas situation may have offended more people than it satisfied,
but still the stickers are in the school books. It seems enough Kansans
were convinced that they voted in the measure, and to hell with the
unbelievers. This country is being taken over by religious
fanatics/extemists/nutters/fools (you choose) who's agenda has nothing
at all to do with the common good and everything to do with their desire
for power. Power of you, me, your dog and cat, and ultimately the rest
of the world. 

Lambert

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Charlotte
Foust
Sent: Friday, June 10, 2005 5:05 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Friday humour


That didn't prevent any arguments, it started more and offended more
people than it satisfied.  I am areligious and largely apolitical, so I
am only offended by a lack of common sense and basic courtesy.  I just
think it is playing with fire to discuss these topics in a public
playground where fistfights are discouraged.  <g>

Charlotte Foust


-----Original Message-----
From: Heenan, Lambert [mailto:Lambert.Heenan at aig.com] 
Sent: Friday, June 10, 2005 1:55 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Friday humour


In Kansas they add Creationism to the school curriculum in order not to
offend one specific group of people. That doesn't make it right either.

On the whole though I agree with your comment. I especially do not like
to see politics being discussed in a software developer's group, but
every rule has its exceptions and pointing out the lunacy of the
religions of this world (not just Christina ones) is an exception for
me.

Politicians can be voted out of office. Religious nuts want us to vote
our brains out of office. But of course they never say that they are
willing to give up all the benefits and comforts that the hateful world
of science has given them - like the internet where they can publish
their rubbish to the hearts content, where no paper and glue publisher
would have touched it, and the computers they use to do it with. This
despite the fact that it is heretical scientific research that made it
all possible. Not one single solitary advance in human technology has
come out of the world of religion. Stone tools, metal tools,
agriculture, writing, you name it, they all came out of human needs.

Lambert

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Charlotte
Foust
Sent: Friday, June 10, 2005 4:03 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Friday humour


Friends,

In Woody's Lounge, we axe threads like this to avoid offending anyone,
however misinformed they might be in their beliefs.  Is there an
equivalent rule in this list?  I get very twitchy when conversations
wander into the areas of religion and politics, since they tend to
deteriorate into name calling and flames.

Charlotte Foust


-----Original Message-----
From: Heenan, Lambert [mailto:Lambert.Heenan at aig.com] 
Sent: Friday, June 10, 2005 11:49 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Friday humour


Anyone care to tell us how the Earth Centric types explain stellar
parallax? Or do they simply deny its existence as their various 'good
books' refer to the 'fixed stars'?


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Elam, Debbie
Sent: Friday, June 10, 2005 2:39 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Friday humour


No it does not throw it out the window, it just makes the lovely and
simple orbital mechanics equations into monster equations that take a
super computer to calculate with any proficiency.  Of course those other
planets just orbit around the sun while the whole mess orbits around the
Earth ;-). That was the real reason it became obvious that the best
method of calculation was to put the sun in the center of the system.
The whole mess with the rings was to account for planetary movements. It
is a little like the headaches caused when you try to take the Earth's
total motion into account when compared to the motion of another star in
the milky way galaxy which is all rotating around a cluster of stars in
the galaxy center.  Much more pleasant to break it into chunks and
consider the solar system a single unit when talking about motion with
respect to the galaxy.

Debbie

-----Original Message-----
From: Don Bozarth [mailto:drboz at pacbell.net] 
Sent: Friday, June 10, 2005 1:25 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Friday humour


Well, if the solar system is Earth centered, a lot of the math dealing
with planetary motion goes right out the window... not to mention that
little sniggle called gravity.  The math of orbital mechanics suddenly
disappears. Were all that math wrong, we could never have made it to the
Moon, Venus, Mars, Jupiter, Saturn, and Uranus those places manmade
satellites have visited.

Don B.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Elam, Debbie" <DElam at jenkens.com>
To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'"
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Friday, June 10, 2005 11:14 AM
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Friday humour


> Actually they are right.  The whole thing comes down to perspective.
> Of course the math is a heck of a lot easier if you simply consider 
> the sun
the
> center around which the solar system revolves.  In this case as many
others,
> why not go with the simplest answer that gives the most correct
predictions?
> Why complicate the issue by insisting that a certain perspective has
> to be maintained?  Groan, no doubt they will call it proof.  Of course

> the
reverse
> is just as true.  No one can prove that the sun revolves around the
> Earth, but that is a minor detail.
>
> Debbie
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jim Lawrence [mailto:accessd at shaw.ca]
> Sent: Friday, June 10, 2005 1:00 PM
> To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
> Subject: [AccessD] Friday humour
>
>
> Hi All:
>
> When first read I thought this was a joke... but I think it is for
> real; which of course would make it more hilarious. Check this out: 
> http://www.catholicintl.com/epologetics/articles/science/geochallenge.
> htm
>
> Jim
>
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From cfoust at infostatsystems.com  Fri Jun 10 17:36:27 2005
From: cfoust at infostatsystems.com (Charlotte Foust)
Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2005 15:36:27 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] MODERATOR NEEDED NOW!!! /was Friday humour
Message-ID: <E61FC1D4B1918244905B113C680BEA86873A98@infoserver01.infostat.local>

ROTFL

Charlotte Foust


-----Original Message-----
From: William Hindman [mailto:dejpolsys at hotmail.com] 
Sent: Friday, June 10, 2005 3:04 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] MODERATOR NEEDED NOW!!! /was Friday humour


..OT has standards? :)

William

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Susan Harkins" <ssharkins at bellsouth.net>
To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'" 
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Friday, June 10, 2005 5:54 PM
Subject: RE: [AccessD] MODERATOR NEEDED NOW!!! /was Friday humour


> If you need a second, I'll second that, and third it, and fourth it...

> <slap> <breathe>
>
> Frankly, Lambert was rather tart, even by OT standards! ;)
>
> Susan H.
>
> ..can somebody with a smattering of common sense please delete this.
>
> ..OT is the place for this ...not AccessD.
>
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From martyconnelly at shaw.ca  Fri Jun 10 17:39:37 2005
From: martyconnelly at shaw.ca (MartyConnelly)
Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2005 15:39:37 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Automating - IE6 - File Save As
References: <0F3AFAE449DD4A40BED8B6C4A97ABF5B0298AABB@MSG-MB3.icent.ic.gc.ca>
Message-ID: <42AA16A9.1060801@shaw.ca>

You maynot be able to do this for security reasons on second method.
Ran this okay from WinXP SP2, Access97, IE6.0.2900  xpsp2 patches

Here are two ways.

'This gets around security limitations
'will only save between <body> </body> tags
CreateObject("Scripting.FileSystemObject").OpenTextFile("C:\temp\myurlsaved.htm", 
2, True).Write _
   objExplorer.Document.Body.innerHTML

'or alternate method that security may clobber, saves everthing with 
fileopen box used
With objExplorer.Document
  If .queryCommandEnabled("saveAs") Then .execCommand "saveAs", False, 
"C:\temp\myurl.htm"
 End With

Anywho here is some rough test code, that works both ways.
You can throw out all the commented objdocument code at bottom.


Sub testIESave(strpassHTML As String)
'------------------
'testIESave "http://www.Viescas.com/"
Dim objExplorer As Object
Dim objDocument As Object
Dim strComputer As String

Dim strReturn As String

Set objExplorer = CreateObject("InternetExplorer.Application")

'objExplorer.navigate "about:blank"
objExplorer.navigate strpassHTML
objExplorer.Toolbar = 1 'or 0 to turnoff toolbar turned off maynot save 
all html source
objExplorer.StatusBar = 0
objExplorer.Width = 800
objExplorer.Height = 570
objExplorer.Left = 0
objExplorer.Top = 0
objExplorer.Visible = 1
'dont't need to navigate to file or http site
'just drop html string in document object
'objExplorer.Navigate "file://c:\temp\test.html"
'objExplorer.Navigate "http://www.Viescas.com/"
'objExplorer.Navigate "http://checkip.dyndns.org/"

Do While (objExplorer.Busy)
Loop
Dim webtx As String
Dim strHTML As String
'will only save between <body> </body> tags
CreateObject("Scripting.FileSystemObject").OpenTextFile("C:\temp\myurlsmall.htm", 
2, True).Write _
   objExplorer.Document.Body.innerHTML
'alternate method security may clobber saves everything
With objExplorer.Document
  If .queryCommandEnabled("saveAs") Then .execCommand "saveAs", False, 
"C:\temp\myurl.htm"
 End With
 
'Set objDocument = objExplorer.Document
'objDocument.Open
'objDocument.writeln "<html><head><title>My Continuous 
Pictures</title></head>"
'you probably don't need all this but you could throw in some css
'objDocument.writeln "<body bgcolor='red';" & _
'    " {   background-attachment: fixed; background-position: 97% 
bottom; " & _
'      "  background-image= 'url(logoBackGround.gif)';background-repeat: 
no-repeat;" & _
'       " padding: 5px;font-family='Georgia';font-size: 80%;} >"
   
'objDocument.writeln "<table width='100%'>"
'objDocument.writeln "<tr>"
'objDocument.writeln "<td width='20%'><b>Pictures</b></td>"
'objDocument.writeln "</tr>"
'objDocument.writeln "</table>"

'objDocument.writeln "<h3>Method #2:</h3><img src = ""C:\Access 
files\CandaceTripp\picture\shakes.bmp"" Width = ""150"" Height = ""75"" 
alt = ""Random Image #4"" />"

'objDocument.writeln strpassHTML
'objDocument.writeln "</body></html>"
'objDocument.Write()
'objDocument.Close
'MsgBox "finished"
Set objExplorer = Nothing
Set objDocument = Nothing

End Sub


Drawbridge, Jack: #CIO - BPI wrote:

>Have had no responses with original post. I believe it is a question of automating IE, and how to get to CommonDialog in order to do the File Save As.
>
>IE does a fantastic job of removing relative links and downloading a clean set of files when using the File Save As webpage complete option. I do not want to do the File saves manually. There must be a means to automate this in VBA???
>
>Any advice/help on this would be greatly appreciated.
>
>Thanks,
>
>jack
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Drawbridge,
>Jack: #CIO - BPI
>Sent: Thursday, June 2, 2005 3:01 PM
>To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
>Subject: [AccessD] A2K talking to IE6 - File Save As
>
>
>Looking for help/advice or sample code to open IE6 from code in A2K. Am interested in how to do a File| Save As Webpage, Complete.
>We have a database of 60000 companies and want to put extracts of selected 100-500 companies (html and graphics etc) onto a CD for use with Offline Browser.
>
>Can not figure out how to get to IE6 File | Save As.
>
>I have some code to open a page with IE browser and save all the links on the page.
>
>Any help would be appreciated.
>
>TIA 
>
>jack
>
>'---- CODE to GET the Links from a given page ----
>'---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>' Procedure : GetLinks
>' DateTime  : 2005-06-02 14:19
>' Author    :
>' Purpose   : get all links from a named webpage URL
>'---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>'
>Sub GetLinks()
>
>' ** need to set a reference to
>' ** Microsoft Internet Controls
>
>    Dim IeApp As InternetExplorer
>    Dim sURL As String
>    Dim IeDoc As Object
>    Dim i As Long
>    
>   'Create new instance of IE
>    Set IeApp = New InternetExplorer
>    
>    'May wish to make IeApp visible
>    'apparently some things don't work
>    'unless it's visible
>    IeApp.Visible = False
>    
>    'define the page to open
>    sURL = "www.diligens.com"
>    
>    'navigate to the page based on URL
>    IeApp.Navigate sURL
>   
>    'Pause until the webpage is completely loaded
>    Do
>    Loop Until IeApp.ReadyState = READYSTATE_COMPLETE
>    
>    'Create instance of Document object
>    Set IeDoc = IeApp.Document
>  
>    'Loop through the document's links collection.
>    For i = 0 To IeDoc.links.Length - 1
>        Debug.Print IeDoc.links(i).href
>    Next i
>    
>    'Clean up
>    Set IeApp = Nothing
>    Set IeDoc = Nothing
>End Sub
>  
>

-- 
Marty Connelly
Victoria, B.C.
Canada





From john at winhaven.net  Fri Jun 10 17:40:58 2005
From: john at winhaven.net (John Bartow)
Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2005 17:40:58 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Friday humour - END THIS THREAD
In-Reply-To: <0IHV00J7JTO472@l-daemon>
Message-ID: <200506102241.j5AMewPA265944@pimout4-ext.prodigy.net>

This isn't humor either Jim, please don't abuse the Firday humor allowance
in the future.

John Bartow, President
Database Advisors, Inc.
Email: mailto:president at databaseadvisors.com
Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com 

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim Lawrence
Sent: Friday, June 10, 2005 1:51 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Friday humour

On that subject, an email arrived with this link:

http://www.boreme.com/boreme/funny-2005/bush-ten-years-ago.php?gobackto=home

It sometimes is nice to be one step removed.

Jim

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Charlotte Foust
Sent: Friday, June 10, 2005 11:28 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Friday humour

No, I think they're all in public office already! ,wink>

Charlotte Foust


-----Original Message-----
From: Jim Lawrence [mailto:accessd at shaw.ca]
Sent: Friday, June 10, 2005 11:23 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Friday humour


What's next... a challenge from the 'Flat Earth Society'?

Jim

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Elam, Debbie
Sent: Friday, June 10, 2005 11:15 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Friday humour

Actually they are right.  The whole thing comes down to perspective.  Of
course the math is a heck of a lot easier if you simply consider the sun
the center around which the solar system revolves.  In this case as many
others, why not go with the simplest answer that gives the most correct
predictions? Why complicate the issue by insisting that a certain
perspective has to be maintained?  Groan, no doubt they will call it
proof.  Of course the reverse is just as true.  No one can prove that
the sun revolves around the Earth, but that is a minor detail.

Debbie

-----Original Message-----
From: Jim Lawrence [mailto:accessd at shaw.ca] 
Sent: Friday, June 10, 2005 1:00 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] Friday humour


Hi All:

When first read I thought this was a joke... but I think it is for real;
which of course would make it more hilarious. Check this out:
http://www.catholicintl.com/epologetics/articles/science/geochallenge.ht
m

Jim 

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From john at winhaven.net  Fri Jun 10 17:40:58 2005
From: john at winhaven.net (John Bartow)
Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2005 17:40:58 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Friday humour - END THIS THREAD
In-Reply-To: <0IHV0011IRBYPU@l-daemon>
Message-ID: <200506102241.j5AMewPB265944@pimout4-ext.prodigy.net>

This isn't humor Jim, please don't abuse the Firday humor allowance in the
future.

John Bartow, President
Database Advisors, Inc.
Email: mailto:president at databaseadvisors.com
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Sent: Friday, June 10, 2005 1:00 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] Friday humour

Hi All:

When first read I thought this was a joke... but I think it is for real;
which of course would make it more hilarious. Check this out:
http://www.catholicintl.com/epologetics/articles/science/geochallenge.htm

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From bchacc at san.rr.com  Fri Jun 10 18:31:04 2005
From: bchacc at san.rr.com (Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software)
Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2005 16:31:04 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] RE: Friday humour
References: <6A6AA9DF57E4F046BDA1E273BDDB6772337652@corp-es01.fleetpride.com>
Message-ID: <034301c56e14$7962b340$6901a8c0@HAL9004>

I like: "Kittens.  Five cents or best offer."

Rocky

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Hale, Jim" <Jim.Hale at fleetpride.com>
To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'" 
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Friday, June 10, 2005 1:34 PM
Subject: RE: [AccessD] RE: Friday humour


> Ok, here is my contribution. This one didn't go through last week for some
> reason.
> Jim Hale
>
> Classified Ads
>
> Actually Taken From Classified Ad's In Newspapers:
>
> FREE YORKSHIRE TERRIER. 8 years old Hateful little dog. Bites
> ---------------------------------- 
> FREE PUPPIES: 1/2 Cocker Spaniel, 1/2 sneaky neighbor's dog
> ----------------------------- 
> FREE PUPPIES... Part German Shepherd, part stupid dog
> ------------------------------ 
> GERMAN SHEPHERD 85 lbs. Neutered. Speaks German. Free
> ---------------------------------- 
> FOUND: DIRTY WHITE DOG. Looks like a rat ... been out awhile. Better be
> reward.
> ---------------------------------- 
> COWS, CALVES NEVER BRED.... Also 1 gay bull for sale
> ------------------------------- 
> NORDIC TRACK $300 Hardly used, call Chubby
> ---------------------------------- 
> NICE PARACHUTE: Never opened - used once
> ---------------------------------- 
> JOINING NUDIST COLONY! Must sell washer and dryer $300
> ---------------------------------- 
> (AND THE BEST ONE)
> FOR SALE BY OWNER: Complete set of Encyclopedia Britannica. 45 volumes.
> Excellent condition. $1,000 or best offer. No longer needed. Got married
> last month. Wife knows everything.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Brett Barabash [mailto:BBarabash at tappeconstruction.com]
> Sent: Friday, June 10, 2005 3:28 PM
> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> Subject: [AccessD] RE: Friday humour
>
>
> So I open up my inbox this afternoon, and I find 2 Friday "humor"
> threads:
>
> 1. Science vs. Religion absurdist debate
> 2. "George W. Bush is so dumb" political rhetoric
>
> Thank goodness that David McAfee tossed in an honest to goodness joke.
> Offending people should be the least of your worries.  Boring them to
> death is more likely.  ;-)
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> C'mon people, it's Friday.  Laugh a little!
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From martyconnelly at shaw.ca  Fri Jun 10 19:15:13 2005
From: martyconnelly at shaw.ca (MartyConnelly)
Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2005 17:15:13 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Friday humour
References: <E61FC1D4B1918244905B113C680BEA86873A93@infoserver01.infostat.local>
	<002701c56dfa$68081960$6401a8c0@don>
Message-ID: <42AA2D11.90103@shaw.ca>

Argggh.
Noone knows any history.
1. Copernicus died  in 1543 a week after his book "Six Books on the 
Revolutions of the Celestial Orbits"  otherwise known as "De Revolutionibis"
was finally published.
 In 1533 Albert Widmanstadt lectured before Pope Clement VII on the 
Copernican solar system. His reward consisted of a Greek codex which is 
preserved in the State library of Munich. Three years later Copernicus 
was urged by Cardinal Schonberg, then Archbishop of Capua, in a letter, 
dated at Rome, 1 November, 1536, to publish his discovery, or at least 
to have a copy made at the cardinal's expense. He was also asked to 
reform the Calendar by Pope Leo X.
 Finally Copernicus, at sixty-eight , yielded, as he writes to Paul III, 
to the entreaties of Cardinal Schonberg, of Bishop Giese of Culm, and of 
other learned men to surrender his manuscripts for publication. Bishop 
Giese charged Rheticus, as the ablest disciple of the great master, with 
the task of editing the work.
It was finally edited by Osiander who took out any possible 
objectionable theological bits, and added a preface stating it was an 
hypothesis. This was done not so much to appease the Catholic church but 
knowing the attitude of Luther and Melanchthon against the heliocentric 
system, who were running around Germany at the time.Copernicus was an 
invalid and living in Frauenburg Germany at the time.

There were 6 popes inbetween Copernicus' book and the Galileo 
inquisition and none objected to the heliocentric theory.

On the Catholic side opposition only commenced seventy-three years 
later, when it was started up by Galileo. On 5 March, 1616, the work of 
Copernicus was forbidden by the Congregation of the Index "until 
corrected", and in 1620 these corrections were indicated. Nine 
sentences, by which the heliocentric system was represented as certain, 
had to be either omitted or changed.

In 1820 Canon Settele, a Roman astronomy professor who was a priest 
tried to publish a book in which the Copernican system was treated as 
fact. At first, the censor of the press, a guy named Anfossi, wouldn't 
allow the book to be published unless Settele revised it so that it 
treated the Copernican system as merely a theory. But Settele appealed 
to Pope Pius VII, who referred the matter to the Congregation of the 
Holy Office. On August 16, 1820, it was decided that Settele could, in 
fact, treat the Copernican system as established fact, and that decision 
was approved by Pius VII.

Pope John Paul II referred to this incident in 1992 when he said that as 
far as the Church was concerned, the heliocentric debate "was closed in 
1820 with the imprimatur given to the work of Canon Settele."  This was 
an address to Pontifical Academy of  the Sciences.

I could add corrections on Galileo and all the politics involved which 
was a genuine fubar but here is Cardinal Bellarmine's response.

"I say that if a real proof be found that the sun is fixed and does not 
revolve round the earth, but the earth round the sun, then it will be 
necessary, very carefully, to proceed to the explanation of the passages 
of Scripture which appear to be contrary, and we should rather say that 
we have misunderstood these than pronounce that to be false which is 
demonstrated."

I put  Robert Sungenis in the Art Bell camp.

Don Bozarth wrote:

>I belive he was... Galileo too.  Long after they had shed this mortal
>coil...
>
>Don B.
>
>----- Original Message ----- 
>From: "Charlotte Foust" <cfoust at infostatsystems.com>
>To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving"
><accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
>Sent: Friday, June 10, 2005 1:07 PM
>Subject: RE: [AccessD] Friday humour
>
>
>  
>
>>Erm ... Am I wrong or was Coepernicus exonerated posthumously by the
>>Church?
>>
>>Charlotte Foust
>>
>>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: Don Bozarth [mailto:drboz at pacbell.net]
>>Sent: Friday, June 10, 2005 12:23 PM
>>To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
>>Subject: Re: [AccessD] Friday humour
>>
>>
>>Yes, I read the whole thing.  Typical defend "the church" at all costs
>>rhetoric.  According to this group no scientist ever did anything right.
>>
>>Don B.
>>
>>
>>    
>>
>
>
>  
>

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From cfoust at infostatsystems.com  Fri Jun 10 19:27:31 2005
From: cfoust at infostatsystems.com (Charlotte Foust)
Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2005 17:27:31 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Friday humour
Message-ID: <E61FC1D4B1918244905B113C680BEA86873A99@infoserver01.infostat.local>

Well, since I'm convinced the earth is not the center of the solar
system and I'm much younger than Copernicus, is it really necessary for
me to avoid getting him confused with someone else who had a theory on
completely different subjects?? On a Friday??<g>

Charlotte Foust


-----Original Message-----
From: MartyConnelly [mailto:martyconnelly at shaw.ca] 
Sent: Friday, June 10, 2005 5:15 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Friday humour


Argggh.
Noone knows any history.
1. Copernicus died  in 1543 a week after his book "Six Books on the 
Revolutions of the Celestial Orbits"  otherwise known as "De
Revolutionibis" was finally published.  In 1533 Albert Widmanstadt
lectured before Pope Clement VII on the 
Copernican solar system. His reward consisted of a Greek codex which is 
preserved in the State library of Munich. Three years later Copernicus 
was urged by Cardinal Schonberg, then Archbishop of Capua, in a letter, 
dated at Rome, 1 November, 1536, to publish his discovery, or at least 
to have a copy made at the cardinal's expense. He was also asked to 
reform the Calendar by Pope Leo X.
 Finally Copernicus, at sixty-eight , yielded, as he writes to Paul III,

to the entreaties of Cardinal Schonberg, of Bishop Giese of Culm, and of

other learned men to surrender his manuscripts for publication. Bishop 
Giese charged Rheticus, as the ablest disciple of the great master, with

the task of editing the work.
It was finally edited by Osiander who took out any possible 
objectionable theological bits, and added a preface stating it was an 
hypothesis. This was done not so much to appease the Catholic church but

knowing the attitude of Luther and Melanchthon against the heliocentric 
system, who were running around Germany at the time.Copernicus was an 
invalid and living in Frauenburg Germany at the time.

There were 6 popes inbetween Copernicus' book and the Galileo 
inquisition and none objected to the heliocentric theory.

On the Catholic side opposition only commenced seventy-three years 
later, when it was started up by Galileo. On 5 March, 1616, the work of 
Copernicus was forbidden by the Congregation of the Index "until 
corrected", and in 1620 these corrections were indicated. Nine 
sentences, by which the heliocentric system was represented as certain, 
had to be either omitted or changed.

In 1820 Canon Settele, a Roman astronomy professor who was a priest 
tried to publish a book in which the Copernican system was treated as 
fact. At first, the censor of the press, a guy named Anfossi, wouldn't 
allow the book to be published unless Settele revised it so that it 
treated the Copernican system as merely a theory. But Settele appealed 
to Pope Pius VII, who referred the matter to the Congregation of the 
Holy Office. On August 16, 1820, it was decided that Settele could, in 
fact, treat the Copernican system as established fact, and that decision

was approved by Pius VII.

Pope John Paul II referred to this incident in 1992 when he said that as

far as the Church was concerned, the heliocentric debate "was closed in 
1820 with the imprimatur given to the work of Canon Settele."  This was 
an address to Pontifical Academy of  the Sciences.

I could add corrections on Galileo and all the politics involved which 
was a genuine fubar but here is Cardinal Bellarmine's response.

"I say that if a real proof be found that the sun is fixed and does not 
revolve round the earth, but the earth round the sun, then it will be 
necessary, very carefully, to proceed to the explanation of the passages

of Scripture which appear to be contrary, and we should rather say that 
we have misunderstood these than pronounce that to be false which is 
demonstrated."

I put  Robert Sungenis in the Art Bell camp.

Don Bozarth wrote:

>I belive he was... Galileo too.  Long after they had shed this mortal 
>coil...
>
>Don B.
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Charlotte Foust" <cfoust at infostatsystems.com>
>To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving"
><accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
>Sent: Friday, June 10, 2005 1:07 PM
>Subject: RE: [AccessD] Friday humour
>
>
>  
>
>>Erm ... Am I wrong or was Coepernicus exonerated posthumously by the 
>>Church?
>>
>>Charlotte Foust
>>
>>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: Don Bozarth [mailto:drboz at pacbell.net]
>>Sent: Friday, June 10, 2005 12:23 PM
>>To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
>>Subject: Re: [AccessD] Friday humour
>>
>>
>>Yes, I read the whole thing.  Typical defend "the church" at all costs

>>rhetoric.  According to this group no scientist ever did anything 
>>right.
>>
>>Don B.
>>
>>
>>    
>>
>
>
>  
>

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Canada



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From accessd at shaw.ca  Fri Jun 10 19:30:23 2005
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2005 17:30:23 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Friday humour
In-Reply-To: <E61FC1D4B1918244905B113C680BEA86873A95@infoserver01.infostat.local>
Message-ID: <0IHW002039EKLS@l-daemon>

Hi All:

Sorry about starting this. I did not mean to stir up things... maybe just a
smile for Friday.

Jim  



From artful at rogers.com  Fri Jun 10 20:34:21 2005
From: artful at rogers.com (Arthur Fuller)
Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2005 21:34:21 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Iterate through similarlnamed columns in a recordset
In-Reply-To: <s2a2d995.014@cactus.dk>
References: <s2a2d995.014@cactus.dk>
Message-ID: <42AA3F9D.2010402@rogers.com>

You have a table like this (let's not bring up normalisation)...

PK autonumber
Size1 long
Height1 long
Weight1 long

(The last three are repeated 3 times, so their last digits are 2, 3 and 4.)

Assume the required vars are declared and filled. rs = New 
ADODB.RecordSet. etc.
I want to write a loop something like this:

For i = 1 to 4
    debug.print rs("Size"&i)
    etc.
Next

But I can't seem to get it right. I tried using eval() and various other 
approaches. Ideas?

Arthur


From dejpolsys at hotmail.com  Fri Jun 10 21:23:36 2005
From: dejpolsys at hotmail.com (William Hindman)
Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2005 22:23:36 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Friday humour
References: <0IHW002039EKLS@l-daemon>
Message-ID: <BAY103-DAV11D493F32AC15462414706AEFE0@phx.gbl>

..s'ok Jim ...likely been a smash on OT :)

William
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Jim Lawrence" <accessd at shaw.ca>
To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'" 
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Friday, June 10, 2005 8:30 PM
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Friday humour


> Hi All:
>
> Sorry about starting this. I did not mean to stir up things... maybe just 
> a
> smile for Friday.
>
> Jim
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From martyconnelly at shaw.ca  Fri Jun 10 22:37:03 2005
From: martyconnelly at shaw.ca (MartyConnelly)
Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2005 20:37:03 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Friday humour
References: <1D7828CDB8350747AFE9D69E0E90DA1F1176C3A2@xlivmbx21.aig.com>
Message-ID: <42AA5C5F.3050501@shaw.ca>

This debate started out by a website of some nutter catholic's attempted 
refutation of the Heliocentric theory.
I pointed out that Copernicus, you know the guy that started it all, was 
a known Cleric in religious orders
He may also have been an ordained priest as he was short listed for a 
bishopric by the King of Poland.
So much for no solitary technological advance by religious nuts or 
coming out of the world of religion.

Of course there are humorous advanced scientific technological advances 
in the US
like the following.
http://www.big-boys.com/articles/parafire.html

which brings it all back to humour ;)

Heenan, Lambert wrote:

>In Kansas they add Creationism to the school curriculum in order not to
>offend one specific group of people. That doesn't make it right either.
>
>On the whole though I agree with your comment. I especially do not like to
>see politics being discussed in a software developer's group, but every rule
>has its exceptions and pointing out the lunacy of the religions of this
>world (not just Christina ones) is an exception for me.
>
>Politicians can be voted out of office. Religious nuts want us to vote our
>brains out of office. But of course they never say that they are willing to
>give up all the benefits and comforts that the hateful world of science has
>given them - like the internet where they can publish their rubbish to the
>hearts content, where no paper and glue publisher would have touched it, and
>the computers they use to do it with. This despite the fact that it is
>heretical scientific research that made it all possible. Not one single
>solitary advance in human technology has come out of the world of religion.
>Stone tools, metal tools, agriculture, writing, you name it, they all came
>out of human needs.
>
>Lambert
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Charlotte Foust
>Sent: Friday, June 10, 2005 4:03 PM
>To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
>Subject: RE: [AccessD] Friday humour
>
>
>Friends,
>
>In Woody's Lounge, we axe threads like this to avoid offending anyone,
>however misinformed they might be in their beliefs.  Is there an equivalent
>rule in this list?  I get very twitchy when conversations wander into the
>areas of religion and politics, since they tend to deteriorate into name
>calling and flames.
>
>Charlotte Foust
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Heenan, Lambert [mailto:Lambert.Heenan at aig.com] 
>Sent: Friday, June 10, 2005 11:49 AM
>To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
>Subject: RE: [AccessD] Friday humour
>
>
>Anyone care to tell us how the Earth Centric types explain stellar parallax?
>Or do they simply deny its existence as their various 'good books' refer to
>the 'fixed stars'?
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Elam, Debbie
>Sent: Friday, June 10, 2005 2:39 PM
>To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
>Subject: RE: [AccessD] Friday humour
>
>
>No it does not throw it out the window, it just makes the lovely and simple
>orbital mechanics equations into monster equations that take a super
>computer to calculate with any proficiency.  Of course those other planets
>just orbit around the sun while the whole mess orbits around the Earth ;-).
>That was the real reason it became obvious that the best method of
>calculation was to put the sun in the center of the system. The whole mess
>with the rings was to account for planetary movements. It is a little like
>the headaches caused when you try to take the Earth's total motion into
>account when compared to the motion of another star in the milky way galaxy
>which is all rotating around a cluster of stars in the galaxy center.  Much
>more pleasant to break it into chunks and consider the solar system a single
>unit when talking about motion with respect to the galaxy.
>
>Debbie
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Don Bozarth [mailto:drboz at pacbell.net] 
>Sent: Friday, June 10, 2005 1:25 PM
>To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
>Subject: Re: [AccessD] Friday humour
>
>
>Well, if the solar system is Earth centered, a lot of the math dealing with
>planetary motion goes right out the window... not to mention that little
>sniggle called gravity.  The math of orbital mechanics suddenly disappears.
>Were all that math wrong, we could never have made it to the Moon, Venus,
>Mars, Jupiter, Saturn, and Uranus those places manmade satellites have
>visited.
>
>Don B.
>
>----- Original Message ----- 
>From: "Elam, Debbie" <DElam at jenkens.com>
>To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'"
><accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
>Sent: Friday, June 10, 2005 11:14 AM
>Subject: RE: [AccessD] Friday humour
>
>
>  
>
>>Actually they are right.  The whole thing comes down to perspective. 
>>Of course the math is a heck of a lot easier if you simply consider 
>>the sun
>>    
>>
>the
>  
>
>>center around which the solar system revolves.  In this case as many
>>    
>>
>others,
>  
>
>>why not go with the simplest answer that gives the most correct
>>    
>>
>predictions?
>  
>
>>Why complicate the issue by insisting that a certain perspective has 
>>to be maintained?  Groan, no doubt they will call it proof.  Of course
>>    
>>
>
>  
>
>>the
>>    
>>
>reverse
>  
>
>>is just as true.  No one can prove that the sun revolves around the 
>>Earth, but that is a minor detail.
>>
>>Debbie
>>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: Jim Lawrence [mailto:accessd at shaw.ca]
>>Sent: Friday, June 10, 2005 1:00 PM
>>To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
>>Subject: [AccessD] Friday humour
>>
>>
>>Hi All:
>>
>>When first read I thought this was a joke... but I think it is for 
>>real; which of course would make it more hilarious. Check this out: 
>>http://www.catholicintl.com/epologetics/articles/science/geochallenge.
>>htm
>>
>>Jim
>>
>>--
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>>Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com
>>- JENKENS & GILCHRIST E-MAIL NOTICE - This transmission may be: (1)
>>    
>>
>subject
>  
>
>>to the Attorney-Client Privilege, (2) an attorney work product, or (3) 
>>strictly confidential. If you are not the intended recipient of this 
>>message, you may not disclose, print, copy or disseminate this
>>    
>>
>information.
>  
>
>>If you have received this in error, please reply and notify the sender
>>(only) and delete the message. Unauthorized interception of this 
>>e-mail is
>>    
>>
>a
>  
>
>>violation of federal criminal law.
>>This communication does not reflect an intention by the sender or the 
>>sender's client or principal to conduct a transaction or make any
>>    
>>
>agreement
>  
>
>>by electronic means.  Nothing contained in this message or in any
>>    
>>
>attachment
>  
>
>>shall satisfy the requirements for a writing, and nothing contained 
>>herein shall constitute a contract or electronic signature under the 
>>Electronic Signatures in Global and National Commerce Act, any version
>>    
>>
>
>  
>
>>of the Uniform Electronic Transactions Act or any other statute
>>governing electronic transactions.
>>--
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>>
>>    
>>
>
>
>  
>

-- 
Marty Connelly
Victoria, B.C.
Canada





From andy at minstersystems.co.uk  Sat Jun 11 01:35:32 2005
From: andy at minstersystems.co.uk (Andy Lacey)
Date: Sat, 11 Jun 2005 07:35:32 +0100
Subject: [AccessD] Friday humour - A MODERATOR'S VIEW
In-Reply-To: <42AA5C5F.3050501@shaw.ca>
Message-ID: <005801c56e4f$c475e6a0$c0d80651@minster33c3r25>

Gosh, I have a Friday away from the list and miss all the "fun". You lot
just can't be trusted can you?

I know JB has stepped in but just in case anyone's tempted to get up this
morning and add their 2c worth, or somethiong like this off next week, can I
just remind everyone that Friday humour is not a free pass to say any old
thing which would not be acceptable on the list any other day. It's purpose
is to offer light entertainment, not political/religious debate. Those are
not, ever, topics for this list. These subjects not only CAN cause offence,
they usually DO. And if you want offence go to OT.

For all I, or you, know there may be a hundred Catholic fundamentalists part
of this list. Opus Dei may log on to us on a daily basis. I've no idea. The
point is that if they do they are welcome on the same basis as everyone
else.

So don't just assume everyone is going to hold your views, whatever they
are, and have a good laugh at the other feller. It never works that way.

-- Andy Lacey
http://www.minstersystems.co.uk 

> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com 
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of 
> MartyConnelly
> Sent: 11 June 2005 04:37
> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] Friday humour
> 
> 
> This debate started out by a website of some nutter 
> catholic's attempted 
> refutation of the Heliocentric theory.
> I pointed out that Copernicus, you know the guy that started 
> it all, was 
> a known Cleric in religious orders
> He may also have been an ordained priest as he was short listed for a 
> bishopric by the King of Poland.
> So much for no solitary technological advance by religious nuts or 
> coming out of the world of religion.
> 
> Of course there are humorous advanced scientific 
> technological advances 
> in the US
> like the following. http://www.big-boys.com/articles/parafire.html
> 
> which brings it all back to humour ;)
> 
> Heenan, Lambert wrote:
> 
> >In Kansas they add Creationism to the school curriculum in 
> order not to 
> >offend one specific group of people. That doesn't make it 
> right either.
> >
> >On the whole though I agree with your comment. I especially 
> do not like 
> >to see politics being discussed in a software developer's group, but 
> >every rule has its exceptions and pointing out the lunacy of the 
> >religions of this world (not just Christina ones) is an 
> exception for 
> >me.
> >
> >Politicians can be voted out of office. Religious nuts want 
> us to vote 
> >our brains out of office. But of course they never say that they are 
> >willing to give up all the benefits and comforts that the 
> hateful world 
> >of science has given them - like the internet where they can publish 
> >their rubbish to the hearts content, where no paper and glue 
> publisher 
> >would have touched it, and the computers they use to do it 
> with. This 
> >despite the fact that it is heretical scientific research 
> that made it 
> >all possible. Not one single solitary advance in human 
> technology has 
> >come out of the world of religion. Stone tools, metal tools, 
> >agriculture, writing, you name it, they all came out of human needs.
> >
> >Lambert
> >
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> >[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Charlotte 
> >Foust
> >Sent: Friday, June 10, 2005 4:03 PM
> >To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> >Subject: RE: [AccessD] Friday humour
> >
> >
> >Friends,
> >
> >In Woody's Lounge, we axe threads like this to avoid 
> offending anyone, 
> >however misinformed they might be in their beliefs.  Is there an 
> >equivalent rule in this list?  I get very twitchy when conversations 
> >wander into the areas of religion and politics, since they tend to 
> >deteriorate into name calling and flames.
> >
> >Charlotte Foust
> >
> >
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: Heenan, Lambert [mailto:Lambert.Heenan at aig.com]
> >Sent: Friday, June 10, 2005 11:49 AM
> >To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
> >Subject: RE: [AccessD] Friday humour
> >
> >
> >Anyone care to tell us how the Earth Centric types explain stellar 
> >parallax? Or do they simply deny its existence as their 
> various 'good 
> >books' refer to the 'fixed stars'?
> >
> >
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> >[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of 
> Elam, Debbie
> >Sent: Friday, June 10, 2005 2:39 PM
> >To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
> >Subject: RE: [AccessD] Friday humour
> >
> >
> >No it does not throw it out the window, it just makes the lovely and 
> >simple orbital mechanics equations into monster equations 
> that take a 
> >super computer to calculate with any proficiency.  Of course those 
> >other planets just orbit around the sun while the whole mess orbits 
> >around the Earth ;-). That was the real reason it became 
> obvious that 
> >the best method of calculation was to put the sun in the 
> center of the 
> >system. The whole mess with the rings was to account for planetary 
> >movements. It is a little like the headaches caused when you try to 
> >take the Earth's total motion into account when compared to 
> the motion 
> >of another star in the milky way galaxy which is all 
> rotating around a 
> >cluster of stars in the galaxy center.  Much more pleasant 
> to break it 
> >into chunks and consider the solar system a single unit when talking 
> >about motion with respect to the galaxy.
> >
> >Debbie
> >
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: Don Bozarth [mailto:drboz at pacbell.net]
> >Sent: Friday, June 10, 2005 1:25 PM
> >To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> >Subject: Re: [AccessD] Friday humour
> >
> >
> >Well, if the solar system is Earth centered, a lot of the 
> math dealing 
> >with planetary motion goes right out the window... not to 
> mention that 
> >little sniggle called gravity.  The math of orbital 
> mechanics suddenly 
> >disappears. Were all that math wrong, we could never have made it to 
> >the Moon, Venus, Mars, Jupiter, Saturn, and Uranus those 
> places manmade 
> >satellites have visited.
> >
> >Don B.
> >
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: "Elam, Debbie" <DElam at jenkens.com>
> >To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'"
> ><accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
> >Sent: Friday, June 10, 2005 11:14 AM
> >Subject: RE: [AccessD] Friday humour
> >
> >
> >  
> >
> >>Actually they are right.  The whole thing comes down to perspective.
> >>Of course the math is a heck of a lot easier if you simply consider 
> >>the sun
> >>    
> >>
> >the
> >  
> >
> >>center around which the solar system revolves.  In this case as many
> >>    
> >>
> >others,
> >  
> >
> >>why not go with the simplest answer that gives the most correct
> >>    
> >>
> >predictions?
> >  
> >
> >>Why complicate the issue by insisting that a certain perspective has
> >>to be maintained?  Groan, no doubt they will call it proof. 
>  Of course
> >>    
> >>
> >
> >  
> >
> >>the
> >>    
> >>
> >reverse
> >  
> >
> >>is just as true.  No one can prove that the sun revolves around the
> >>Earth, but that is a minor detail.
> >>
> >>Debbie
> >>
> >>-----Original Message-----
> >>From: Jim Lawrence [mailto:accessd at shaw.ca]
> >>Sent: Friday, June 10, 2005 1:00 PM
> >>To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
> >>Subject: [AccessD] Friday humour
> >>
> >>
> >>Hi All:
> >>
> >>When first read I thought this was a joke... but I think it is for
> >>real; which of course would make it more hilarious. Check this out: 
> >>http://www.catholicintl.com/epologetics/articles/science/geo
> challenge.
> >>htm
> >>
> >>Jim
> >>
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> product, or (3)
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> recipient of this 
> >>message, you may not disclose, print, copy or disseminate this
> >>    
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> >information.
> >  
> >
> >>If you have received this in error, please reply and notify 
> the sender
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> sender or the
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> >>    
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> >  
> >
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> >>    
> >>
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> >  
> >
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> >>herein shall constitute a contract or electronic signature 
> under the 
> >>Electronic Signatures in Global and National Commerce Act, 
> any version
> >>    
> >>
> >
> >  
> >
> >>of the Uniform Electronic Transactions Act or any other statute 
> >>governing electronic transactions.
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> >
> >
> >  
> >
> 
> -- 
> Marty Connelly
> Victoria, B.C.
> Canada
> 
> 
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> 



From Gustav at cactus.dk  Sat Jun 11 02:12:37 2005
From: Gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Sat, 11 Jun 2005 09:12:37 +0200
Subject: [AccessD] Iterate through similarlnamed columns in a
	recordset
Message-ID: <s2aaab10.079@cactus.dk>

Hi Arthur

It should work, at least in the extended version:

  For i = 1 to 4
    debug.print rs.Fields("Size" & i & "").Value
    etc.
  Next

/gustav

>>> artful at rogers.com 06/11 3:34 am >>>
You have a table like this (let's not bring up normalisation)...

PK autonumber
Size1 long
Height1 long
Weight1 long

(The last three are repeated 3 times, so their last digits are 2, 3 and
4.)

Assume the required vars are declared and filled. rs = New 
ADODB.RecordSet. etc.
I want to write a loop something like this:

For i = 1 to 4
    debug.print rs("Size"&i)
    etc.
Next

But I can't seem to get it right. I tried using eval() and various
other 
approaches. Ideas?

Arthur



From bheygood at abestsystems.com  Sat Jun 11 10:28:36 2005
From: bheygood at abestsystems.com (Bob Heygood)
Date: Sat, 11 Jun 2005 08:28:36 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Scrape Word Part II
In-Reply-To: <42A9BD16.9050504@shaw.ca>
Message-ID: <AIEKKBIAKDJNAFGABNJKAEDLCNAA.bheygood@abestsystems.com>

thanks for your response Marty.
I started out this time to use custom properties, but am backing away
because I can't see how to keep the info the user types in at my prompt in
the custom property.

think I'll go back to just a simple bookmark, though that is a hassle as it
is hard to capture particular info once in a cell of a Word table.




bob

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of MartyConnelly
Sent: Friday, June 10, 2005 9:17 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Scrape Word Part II


As to custom properties you could use the dsofiles.dll, it works for any
ole type file
mdb,doc,xls,ppt or whatever visio uses, this also works from vb.net,
doesn't require word be installed.
There is also code to search for text which might be modified for
bookmarks but
there are two types of word bookmarks.
http://www.word.mvps.org/faqs/macrosvba/WorkWithBookmarks.htm

You could try searching this site especially the links to other word
mvp's like cindy meister
I think you will have to poke around to find all the bits and pieces
http://word.mvps.org
or the main site
http://www.mvps.org


'See MSKB and Dsofile.exe Lets You Edit Office Document Properties from
Visual Basic and ASP
'Microsoft Knowledge Base Article - 224351
'and download dsofile.exe
'http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=224351
'Add a reference (Tools | References in the VBE window) to it.
' depending on path where you have installed dsofile.dll
'Put the following in a new module and you should be OK

'Dsofile.dll lets you edit Office document properties without
'Office in Visual Basic .NET 2003 and in Visual Basic .NET 2002
'http://support.microsoft.com/?id=224351
'===========================================================
'http://www.word.mvps.org/faqs/macrosvba/WorkWithBookmarks.htm
Private oFilePropReader As DSOleFile.PropertyReader
Private oDocProp As DSOleFile.DocumentProperties

Public Sub GetPropsFromDirectory()
'this routine gets all doc files in a directory and shows Line Count and
author

Dim ffile As String
On Error Resume Next
'careful with above line
'this is Quick and Dirty used to avoid missing propereties on some filetypes
' this can be used with microsoft, doc, ppt, xls and mdb files
    ffile = Dir("c:\wordvba\*.doc")
    Do While ffile <> "" 'recursive search for sub directories can be
written
        If ffile <> "." And ffile <> ".." Then
            Set oFilePropReader = New DSOleFile.PropertyReader
            Set oDocProp = _
            oFilePropReader.GetDocumentProperties("c:\wordvba\" & ffile)
            MsgBox oDocProp.Name & " " & oDocProp.PageCount & _
               " pages " & oDocProp.Author
              With oDocProp
        Debug.Print "Name " & .Name
        Debug.Print "Application Name " & .AppName
        Debug.Print "Author " & .Author
        Debug.Print "Category " & .Category
        Debug.Print "Class Id " & .CLSID
        Debug.Print "Comments " & .Comments
        Debug.Print "Company " & .Company
        'Debug.Print "Custom " & .CustomProperties 'check index values
        Debug.Print "Create date " & .DateCreated
        Debug.Print "Last edited " & .DateLastEdited
        Debug.Print "Last printed " & .DateLastPrinted
        Debug.Print "Last saved " & .DateLastSaved
        Debug.Print "Contains Macros " & .HasMacros 'doesn't work with
ppt files
        'Debug.Print .Icon 'you can view thumbnail in picture object
        Debug.Print "Read only " & .IsReadOnly
        Debug.Print "Keywords " & .Keywords
        Debug.Print "Last edited by " & .LastEditedBy
        Debug.Print "Line Count " & .LineCount
        Debug.Print "Location " & .Location
        Debug.Print "Manager " & .Manager
        Debug.Print "Page Count " & .PageCount
        Debug.Print "Paragraphs "; .ParagraphCount
        Debug.Print "Program Id " & .ProgId
        Debug.Print "Revision No. " & .RevisionNumber
        Debug.Print "Slides "; .SlideCount
        Debug.Print "Subject " & .Subject
        Debug.Print "Title " & .Title
        Debug.Print "Version " & .Version
        Debug.Print "WordCount " & .WordCount
        Debug.Print "Char Cnt " & .CharacterCount
        Debug.Print " "
        End With
            ffile = Dir()
            Set oDocProp = Nothing
            Set oFilePropReader = Nothing

        End If
    Loop
End Sub

Here is some quick and dirty code that opens a Word doc from inside Access,
searches for the string "special code:" and sets a string variable equal to
the sentence that follows the code string. If your documents all have the
same string you can find that string and select words, sentences or
paragraphs that come after it. from  Jim Hale

Function LiftText()

Dim wd As Word.Application, strPhrase As String, strFindphrase As String
strFindphrase = "special code:"
Set wd = New Word.Application
wd.Documents.Open "C:\Test.doc"
wd.Visible = True
wd.Selection.Find.ClearFormatting
    With wd.Selection.Find
        .Text = strFindphrase
        .Replacement.Text = ""
        .Forward = True
        .Wrap = wdFindContinue
        .Format = False
        .MatchCase = False
        .MatchWholeWord = False
        .MatchWildcards = False
        .MatchSoundsLike = False
        .MatchAllWordForms = False
    End With
    wd.Selection.Find.Execute
    wd.Selection.Start = wd.Selection.End
   Call wd.Selection.EndOf(wdSentence, wdExtend)
    strPhrase = wd.Selection
    MsgBox "Look what I found: " & strPhrase
    wd.ActiveDocument.Close
    wd.Quit
    Set wd = Nothing
End Function


Bob Heygood wrote:

>thanks Jim.
>I have looked before at Helen's code. Lots of great stuff there.
>
>bob
>
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Hale, Jim
>Sent: Wednesday, June 08, 2005 8:17 AM
>To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
>Subject: RE: [AccessD] Scrape Word Part II
>
>
>At the very bottom of this link Helen Feddema has some code that may help
>you.
>http://www.helenfeddema.com/CodeSamples.htm
>
>Jim Hale
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Bob Heygood [mailto:bheygood at abestsystems.com]
>Sent: Wednesday, June 08, 2005 8:35 AM
>To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
>Subject: [AccessD] Scrape Word Part II
>
>
>Hello to the list,
>
>Well, my project is alive again. This time I have the luxury of being able
>to create the Word document from which I need to cull the info. I still
need
>to have a Word table but I can create bookmarks or whatever within the
table
>in the document.
>To recap I need to import 10 pieces of text from a Word document and store
>them in a mdb table.
>Jim Hale's code below worked really good except that we were pressed for
>time and did not ever get it to work in all areas of the Word doc.
>So my first question is how to search the Word doc to find the text,
>bookmarks, fields, custom properties or ????
>
>
>TIA,
>
>Bob Heygood
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Hale, Jim
>Sent: Monday, April 18, 2005 8:54 AM
>To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
>Subject: RE: [AccessD] Scrape Word
>
>
>Whatever it takes to get the job done! Sorry I couldn't be more help.
>Jim Hale
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Bob Heygood [mailto:bheygood at abestsystems.com]
>Sent: Monday, April 18, 2005 10:09 AM
>To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
>Subject: RE: [AccessD] Scrape Word
>
>
>Thanks Jim
>I finally just ran the job as it took about 4 hours to process 256
>documents.
>it is a one time deal and the customer needed to have the results.
>
>your help was fantastic.
>
>bob
>
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Hale, Jim
>Sent: Friday, April 15, 2005 3:18 PM
>To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
>Subject: RE: [AccessD] Scrape Word
>
>
>I'll look at it some more on Monday. You might examine the selection object
>in the Word application. It has numerous properties and methods one or more
>of which should do the trick.
>Jim Hale
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Bob Heygood [mailto:bheygood at abestsystems.com]
>Sent: Friday, April 15, 2005 4:52 PM
>To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
>Subject: RE: [AccessD] Scrape Word
>
>
>yes in a table cell.
>again your code is working super.
>but only grabs the first word, sometimes there is more than one word in the
>cell, and I would like to capture all of them.
>if you have thought, I would welcome it.
>
>
>again I tried to manipulate the code further but it acts very erratic when
>in a table cell.
>
>thanks for the great help.
>
>bob
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Hale, Jim
>Sent: Thursday, April 14, 2005 12:53 PM
>To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
>Subject: RE: [AccessD] Scrape Word
>
>
>So the data you want (including the search string) is in a table cell? In
>the code I sent you delete
>   wd.Selection.Start = wd.Selection.End
>   Call wd.Selection.EndOf(wdSentence, wdExtend)
>
>and replace with
>   wd.Selection.Next(Unit:=wdWord, Count:=1).Select
>
>Or if the entire string is returned you can replace the search string with
>an empty string "" using the following function:
>
>Function ReplaceString(strTextIn As String, strFind As String, strReplace
As
>String, fCaseSensitive As Boolean) As String
>
>  Dim strTmp As String
>  Dim intPos As Integer
>  Dim intCaseSensitive As Integer
>
>  intCaseSensitive = IIf(fCaseSensitive, 2, 1)
>
>  strTmp = strTextIn
>  intPos = InStr(1, strTmp, strFind, intCaseSensitive)
>
>  Do While intPos > 0
>    strTmp = Left$(strTmp, intPos - 1) & strReplace & Mid$(strTmp, intPos +
>Len(strFind))
>    intPos = InStr(intPos + Len(strReplace), strTmp, strFind,
>intCaseSensitive)
>  Loop
>
>  ReplaceString = strTmp
>
>End Function
>
>Jim Hale
>
>
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From KP at sdsonline.net  Sun Jun 12 02:22:02 2005
From: KP at sdsonline.net (Kath Pelletti)
Date: Sun, 12 Jun 2005 17:22:02 +1000
Subject: [AccessD]Error loading picture
Message-ID: <004601c56f1f$6e8c6090$6601a8c0@user>

Re: this problem:

>When the user opens a form which attempts to load a .jpg or .gif picture the system come up with "...the database doesn't support the format of 
>'E:\Database\Photos\Peru.jpg' so it can't load the picture.

I found a bizarre solution in a line on the Lebans website to the effect that if the file extension is upper case it is treated differently by Access to it being in lower case. Disbelieving, I tried it and it works. If I change the file extension of the 350 photos which this system uses (which I can do with one DOS command) from .jpg to .JPG then Access manages to load them correctly.

It's a bit of a bizarre solution but having uninstalled and re-installed the graphics filters for Office twice, then doing a complete re-installation of Office I am relieved to find any kind of a simple solution. 

BTW - Marty - I did spend some tine on this:  http://www.lebans.com/loadjpeg?gif.htm but found that it was difficult to follow. Have you used it?  

Kath

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From artful at rogers.com  Sun Jun 12 15:46:12 2005
From: artful at rogers.com (Arthur Fuller)
Date: Sun, 12 Jun 2005 16:46:12 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Access SaveAs command
In-Reply-To: <6.2.1.2.0.20050605104652.040f9d38@incoming.verizon.net>
References: <010d01c56601$38f04cc0$6501a8c0@HAL9004>
	<6.2.1.2.0.20050605104652.040f9d38@incoming.verizon.net>
Message-ID: <42AC9F14.4020600@rogers.com>

Assume a report Arthur_rpt, which is scoped by the currently selected 
PK. I want to create an HTML file from said rpt and save it to a name 
derived from the PK (i.e. 12345-T1-20050612). What is the command to to 
do this? I have read the Access help and a few related docs and still 
cannot deduce what I am to do, nor where I am to do it.

The exact scenario:
a) I have a Word template AF001.dot.
b) from this, in Access and using the Word object model, I create a new 
Word doc and populate various bookmarks with data.
c) What remains to do is fill in three tables in the created doc with 
rows derived from the principal or ancillary queries.

The template has the table already created, with its headers etc. Now 
supposing that the query returns 8 rows; I need to add 8 rows to the 
table to contain the retrieved data.

On my reading, mail-merge was not designed to do this. It assumes 
instead that each row corresponds to one document.

Let me reiterate to make my requirements as clear as possible.
a) I have an Access report which behaves correctly (i.e. retrieves the 
data desired and places it in the places desired.
b) I have a Word template containing a bunch of boilerplate and places 
for N tables., which correspond exactly to the subforms in the Access 
report aforementioned.
c) Assume N tables that must be embedded in the Word doc. Assume also 
that any of these may contain no rows -- in which case the table(s) must 
be remdered invisible.

I have been looking at the mailmerge docs, the Word objiect-model docs, 
and so on, and I still don;t have a clear handle on this. I know exactly 
what I want to do, and will try to express iti clearly below. I iust 
can't see the way to do it.

Access PK = 12345
SubTable 1
SubTable 2
SubTable 1.1

Most of the Word doc is boilerplate (but even then. conditionals are at 
play). Here and there in the DOT file are bookmarks, which I populate 
without difficulty. The issues I have arise with the embedded tables.

For simplicity's sake. assume one template containing two tables. each 
of whose length varies from doc to doc. Table 1 must be formatted in 
this way (3 cols)  while Table 2 must be formatted in that way (4 cols).

The kludge that works is sickening as judged from my peers' pov... so 
don't waste our bandwidth bitching about that. What I do at the moment 
(permission granted to laugh) is gen an HTML file of the requisite 
tables then import that into the actual document. It sucks I admit but 
it works. for now. I need this all to become a one-button no-brainder 
for the users to use.

Recipe"
1 Word Template with both bookmarks (simple) and slots for tables
2. Access tabular outputs in whatever form will work best
3. Drop the tables into the doc and allow the user to save it to a 
suggeted name.

Table A might have one row; Table B might have 3 rows for every row in T1.

I can make this happen manually (i.e. intervening with keystrokes) but I 
need to automate it.

Any suggestions?

TIA,
Arthur



From martyconnelly at shaw.ca  Sun Jun 12 16:14:26 2005
From: martyconnelly at shaw.ca (MartyConnelly)
Date: Sun, 12 Jun 2005 14:14:26 -0700
Subject: [AccessD]Error loading picture
References: <004601c56f1f$6e8c6090$6601a8c0@user>
Message-ID: <42ACA5B2.6090104@shaw.ca>

Actually it is a bit more bizarre
You don't have to change the actual physical filename extension case.

Just change the filename string or just the extension part via UCase or 
LCase
when you pass to the Picture property of the Image control.

lower case bypasses Office Graphics filters, something to do with 
metafiles in the image.
If the file extension is in uppercase  then the Office Graphicsfilters 
will be used to load the image.

You can also download and install, if something has gone wrong with your 
filters.

Office File Converter Pack   OCONVPCK.EXE
This download provides file converters and image filters for Microsoft 
Office programs, from Microsoft Office 97 to Microsoft Office 2003.
It depends on what version of office is installed.

http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyID=cf196df0-70e5-4595-8a98-370278f40c57&DisplayLang=en

Info here
http://office.microsoft.com/en-us/assistance/HA011513581033.aspx

If you use Lebans method (a bit convoluted) to get .jpeg extensions make 
this change in Function fLoadPicture
 
Select Case right$(strfName, 3)

    Case "bmp", "dib", "Gif", "emf", "Wmf", "ico", "cur", "jpg", "peg"

I gave up using jpegs for other reasons, I was getting microfilm images
and so used djvu format as it can be up to 10 times smaller on black and 
white text type images
and has a text searchable metafile plugins. Some University libraries 
are using for historical
archive display on the web. Things like old manuscripts and folios.

http://www.djvuzone.org/wid/index.html
http://www.djvuzone.org/

Kath Pelletti wrote:

>Re: this problem:
>
>  
>
>>When the user opens a form which attempts to load a .jpg or .gif picture the system come up with "...the database doesn't support the format of 
>>'E:\Database\Photos\Peru.jpg' so it can't load the picture.
>>    
>>
>
>I found a bizarre solution in a line on the Lebans website to the effect that if the file extension is upper case it is treated differently by Access to it being in lower case. Disbelieving, I tried it and it works. If I change the file extension of the 350 photos which this system uses (which I can do with one DOS command) from .jpg to .JPG then Access manages to load them correctly.
>
>It's a bit of a bizarre solution but having uninstalled and re-installed the graphics filters for Office twice, then doing a complete re-installation of Office I am relieved to find any kind of a simple solution. 
>
>BTW - Marty - I did spend some tine on this:  http://www.lebans.com/loadjpeg?gif.htm but found that it was difficult to follow. Have you used it?  
>
>Kath
>
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>  
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From pedro at plex.nl  Sun Jun 12 16:50:37 2005
From: pedro at plex.nl (Pedro Janssen)
Date: Sun, 12 Jun 2005 23:50:37 +0200
Subject: [AccessD] invalid number of arguments
Message-ID: <002a01c56f98$c62e6a90$fac581d5@pedro>

Hello Group,

i am using a function that Neil Kling provided me in the past.
When running it from an expression i get an error:

Invalid number of arguments.

Who can help me with this

Pedro Janssen




Function DeleteTableLink(strTableName As String) As Boolean
On Error GoTo Err_DeleteTableLink
  Dim db As Database
  
  strTableName = "tblDebiteurAlgemeen"
  
  Set db = DBEngine(0)(0)
  db.TableDefs.Delete strTableName
  db.TableDefs.Refresh

  DeleteTableLink = True

Exit_DeleteTableLink:
Exit Function

Err_DeleteTableLink:
  Select Case Err
  Case 0    'insert Errors you wish to ignore here
    Resume Next
  Case 3265      'Item doesn't exist in collection
        Resume Next
  Case Else 'All other errors will trap
    Beep
    MsgBox Err.Number & "; " & Err.Description, , "Error in function basObjectHandlers.DeleteTableLink"
  Resume Exit_DeleteTableLink
  End Select
  Resume 0  'FOR TROUBLESHOOTING
End Function


From mmattys at rochester.rr.com  Sun Jun 12 18:13:08 2005
From: mmattys at rochester.rr.com (Michael R Mattys)
Date: Sun, 12 Jun 2005 19:13:08 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] invalid number of arguments
References: <002a01c56f98$c62e6a90$fac581d5@pedro>
Message-ID: <017001c56fa4$4d7685e0$0202a8c0@default>

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Pedro Janssen" <pedro at plex.nl>
To: <AccessD at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Sunday, June 12, 2005 5:50 PM
Subject: [AccessD] invalid number of arguments


Hello Group,

i am using a function that Neil Kling provided me in the past.
When running it from an expression i get an error:

Invalid number of arguments.

Who can help me with this

------

Pedro,

It should be 

db.TableDefs(strTableName).Delete

----

Michael R. Mattys
Mattys MapLib for Microsoft MapPoint 
http://www.mattysconsulting.com


From lists at theopg.com  Sun Jun 12 18:19:13 2005
From: lists at theopg.com (MarkH)
Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2005 00:19:13 +0100
Subject: [AccessD] invalid number of arguments
In-Reply-To: <017001c56fa4$4d7685e0$0202a8c0@default>
Message-ID: <000501c56fa5$26b3c610$b20b6bd5@netboxxp>

Have you checked strTableName is <>""

Mark

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Mattys
Sent: 13 June 2005 00:13
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] invalid number of arguments


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Pedro Janssen" <pedro at plex.nl>
To: <AccessD at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Sunday, June 12, 2005 5:50 PM
Subject: [AccessD] invalid number of arguments


Hello Group,

i am using a function that Neil Kling provided me in the past. When
running it from an expression i get an error:

Invalid number of arguments.

Who can help me with this

------

Pedro,

It should be 

db.TableDefs(strTableName).Delete

----

Michael R. Mattys
Mattys MapLib for Microsoft MapPoint 
http://www.mattysconsulting.com
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From stuart at lexacorp.com.pg  Sun Jun 12 19:30:56 2005
From: stuart at lexacorp.com.pg (Stuart McLachlan)
Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2005 10:30:56 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] Access SaveAs command
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References: <6.2.1.2.0.20050605104652.040f9d38@incoming.verizon.net>
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On 12 Jun 2005 at 16:46, Arthur Fuller wrote:

> Assume a report Arthur_rpt, which is scoped by the currently selected 
> PK. I want to create an HTML file from said rpt and save it to a name 
> derived from the PK (i.e. 12345-T1-20050612). What is the command to to 
> do this? I have read the Access help and a few related docs and still 
> cannot deduce what I am to do, nor where I am to do it.
> 

I gave up on trying to export reports to HTML.  You get horribly bloated 
HTML.  The worst part is that Access creates a new table for every row and 
bases the cell widths on the contents of that row so rows  NEVER line up 
properly.  

I use  VBA code to Print the HTML code directly to file from the original 
recordset. That way have total control of the end product. Something like:

Open "12345-T1-20050612.htm" for Output as #1
Print #1 "<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC ""-//W3C//DTD XHTML 1.0 Strict//EN""" & _
          """http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml1/DTD/xhtml1-strict.dtd"">"
Print #1 "<html xmlns=""http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml"" xml:lang=""en"" >"
Print #1 "<head>"
......
Print #1, "</head>"
Print #1, "<body>"
........

........
Print #1 "<table  width=""95%"" border=""0"" cellspacing=""3"" 
cellpadding=""4"" >"
While not rs.eof
   Print #1,"<tr>" & _
                "<td><center>" & rs(0) & "</center></td>" & _
                "<td>" &  rs(1) & "</td>" & _
                "<td></bold>" & rs(2) & "</bold></td>" & _
                .............
                "</tr>
   rs.movenext
Wend
Print #1,"</table>
........................

........................
Print "</body>"
Print "</html>
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From adtp at touchtelindia.net  Mon Jun 13 00:19:22 2005
From: adtp at touchtelindia.net (A.D.Tejpal)
Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2005 10:49:22 +0530
Subject: [AccessD] Generating a rownumber field in a query
References: <F2BE8EAB3EA585418337B71BCE6F3BF304EBB3@msmet100.rail.nsw.gov.au >
Message-ID: <006e01c56fd8$1819a4c0$351865cb@winxp>

Bruce,

    So long as the source table has a primary key field, simplified function Fn_RowNum() as given below, gets sequential row numbers, starting from 1. Its use in a sample query is demonstrated below.

    This function has an additional advantage that the output is stable as compared to alternatives using increments to static or global variables, where the results are volatile, prone to change with repeat navigation (up and down) through the column concerned.

    Q_Source is the source query (where contents of source table / tables are duly collected and sorted as desired), while ID is the name of primary key field in source table. If raw data in a single source table is desired to be used directly, without any sorting, name of this table can be used (in lieu of Q_Source), in the sample query given below.

Best wishes,
A.D.Tejpal
--------------

Sample Query (for generating sequential row numbers)
Based upon source query Q_Source.
(ID is the name of primary key field).
=====================================
SELECT Q_Source.*, 
Fn_RowNum("Q_Source","ID",[ID]) AS RowNum 
FROM Q_Source;
=====================================

Fn_RowNum() - User defined function
=====================================
Function Fn_RowNum(ByVal QueryName As String, _
                 ByVal PrimaryKeyName As String, _
                 ByVal PrimaryKeyValue As Long) As Long
' Returns Row number for the record having primary key field
' named PrimaryKeyName with a value = PrimaryKeyValue,
' in source query named QueryName
    Dim Rct As Long
    Dim rst As DAO.Recordset
    
    Rct = 0
    Set rst = CurrentDb.OpenRecordset(QueryName)
    rst.FindFirst PrimaryKeyName & " = " & PrimaryKeyValue
    If Not rst.NoMatch Then
        Rct = rst.AbsolutePosition + 1
    End If
    
    Fn_RowNum = Rct
    rst.Close
    Set rst = Nothing
End Function
=====================================

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Bruen, Bruce 
  To: AccessD at databaseadvisors.com 
  Sent: Friday, June 10, 2005 07:38
  Subject: [AccessD] Generating a rownumber field in a query


  Hi folks,
   
  I want to output a sequence number as a field in a query result.
  Everytime the query runs it should restart the sequence number from 1.
   
  The query appends rows to a "testscript" table, every new test cycle we generate a new set of test scripts which is made up of all the tests in the previous cycle plus new tests that were added during the execution of the last cycle.  The natural key for the output table is the cycle number + the sequence number.
   
  Cycle    Seq    Testname .....   
     1          1        blah
     1          2        blah blah
  ...
     2          1        blah blah
     2          2        blah blah blah
  etc
   
  The cycle number is input as a parameter to the append query.  But how can I generate the sequence numbers?
   
  tia
  bruce



From roz.clarke at donnslaw.co.uk  Mon Jun 13 04:28:38 2005
From: roz.clarke at donnslaw.co.uk (Roz Clarke)
Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2005 10:28:38 +0100
Subject: [AccessD] MODERATOR NEEDED NOW!!! /was Friday humour
Message-ID: <61F915314798D311A2F800A0C9C8318807225B3A@dibble.observatory.donnslaw.co.uk>

Hi all

As a general reminder, please everyone - if you need to refer a thread to
the mods and none seem to be around, email us at
ops-mod at databaseadvisors.com.

Thanks

Roz

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Sent: 10 June 2005 22:54
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] MODERATOR NEEDED NOW!!! /was Friday humour


If you need a second, I'll second that, and third it, and fourth it...
<slap> <breathe>

Frankly, Lambert was rather tart, even by OT standards! ;)  

Susan H. 

..can somebody with a smattering of common sense please delete this.

..OT is the place for this ...not AccessD.


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From carbonnb at gmail.com  Mon Jun 13 06:47:39 2005
From: carbonnb at gmail.com (Bryan Carbonnell)
Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2005 07:47:39 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] MODERATOR NEEDED NOW!!! /was Friday humour
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> ops-mod at databaseadvisors.com.

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From pedro at plex.nl  Mon Jun 13 07:39:33 2005
From: pedro at plex.nl (Pedro Janssen)
Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2005 14:39:33 +0200
Subject: [AccessD] invalid number of arguments
References: <000501c56fa5$26b3c610$b20b6bd5@netboxxp>
Message-ID: <001501c57014$f50b4320$fac581d5@pedro>

Hello Mark,

if you mean; when the strTableName is empty, it gives an error, can't fnd
table.
Otherwise i don't know what you mean.

Pedro Janssen


----- Original Message -----
From: "MarkH" <lists at theopg.com>
To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'"
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Monday, June 13, 2005 1:19 AM
Subject: RE: [AccessD] invalid number of arguments


> Have you checked strTableName is <>""
>
> Mark
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Michael R
> Mattys
> Sent: 13 June 2005 00:13
> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] invalid number of arguments
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Pedro Janssen" <pedro at plex.nl>
> To: <AccessD at databaseadvisors.com>
> Sent: Sunday, June 12, 2005 5:50 PM
> Subject: [AccessD] invalid number of arguments
>
>
> Hello Group,
>
> i am using a function that Neil Kling provided me in the past. When
> running it from an expression i get an error:
>
> Invalid number of arguments.
>
> Who can help me with this
>
> ------
>
> Pedro,
>
> It should be
>
> db.TableDefs(strTableName).Delete
>
> ----
>
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> Mattys MapLib for Microsoft MapPoint
> http://www.mattysconsulting.com
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From pedro at plex.nl  Mon Jun 13 07:41:37 2005
From: pedro at plex.nl (Pedro Janssen)
Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2005 14:41:37 +0200
Subject: [AccessD] invalid number of arguments
References: <002a01c56f98$c62e6a90$fac581d5@pedro>
	<017001c56fa4$4d7685e0$0202a8c0@default>
Message-ID: <001901c57015$3ddf5dc0$fac581d5@pedro>

Hello Michael,

when using db.TableDefs(strTableName).Delete it gives an compile-error:
Can't find methode or member.

Any other ideas.

Pedro Janssen



----- Original Message -----
From: "Michael R Mattys" <mmattys at rochester.rr.com>
To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving"
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Monday, June 13, 2005 1:13 AM
Subject: Re: [AccessD] invalid number of arguments


> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Pedro Janssen" <pedro at plex.nl>
> To: <AccessD at databaseadvisors.com>
> Sent: Sunday, June 12, 2005 5:50 PM
> Subject: [AccessD] invalid number of arguments
>
>
> Hello Group,
>
> i am using a function that Neil Kling provided me in the past.
> When running it from an expression i get an error:
>
> Invalid number of arguments.
>
> Who can help me with this
>
> ------
>
> Pedro,
>
> It should be
>
> db.TableDefs(strTableName).Delete
>
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>
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From nkling at co.montgomery.ny.us  Mon Jun 13 07:52:02 2005
From: nkling at co.montgomery.ny.us (Neal Kling)
Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2005 08:52:02 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] invalid number of arguments
Message-ID: <30BC111F638EB54082001A7E7282FE4107F3BE@elmo.co.montgomery.ny.us>

I see you're setting the table variable right in the function. But the function it's self is still expecting you to pass a table name. I suspect this may be where you are having a problem. Either redeclare the function without the strTableName parameter, or pass it the table name. In other words instead of setting strTableName in the function, call the function like this:

DeleteTableLink "tblDebiteurAlgemeen"

Don't forget to comment out the line
strTableName = "tblDebiteurAlgemeen"

Neal

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Pedro Janssen
Sent: Sunday, June 12, 2005 5:51 PM
To: AccessD at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [AccessD] invalid number of arguments


Hello Group,

i am using a function that Neil Kling provided me in the past.
When running it from an expression i get an error:

Invalid number of arguments.

Who can help me with this

Pedro Janssen




Function DeleteTableLink(strTableName As String) As Boolean
On Error GoTo Err_DeleteTableLink
  Dim db As Database
  
  strTableName = "tblDebiteurAlgemeen"
  
  Set db = DBEngine(0)(0)
  db.TableDefs.Delete strTableName
  db.TableDefs.Refresh

  DeleteTableLink = True

Exit_DeleteTableLink:
Exit Function

Err_DeleteTableLink:
  Select Case Err
  Case 0    'insert Errors you wish to ignore here
    Resume Next
  Case 3265      'Item doesn't exist in collection
        Resume Next
  Case Else 'All other errors will trap
    Beep
    MsgBox Err.Number & "; " & Err.Description, , "Error in function basObjectHandlers.DeleteTableLink"
  Resume Exit_DeleteTableLink
  End Select
  Resume 0  'FOR TROUBLESHOOTING
End Function
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From roz.clarke at donnslaw.co.uk  Mon Jun 13 08:01:41 2005
From: roz.clarke at donnslaw.co.uk (Roz Clarke)
Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2005 14:01:41 +0100
Subject: [AccessD] MODERATOR NEEDED NOW!!! /was Friday humour
Message-ID: <61F915314798D311A2F800A0C9C8318807225B3E@dibble.observatory.donnslaw.co.uk>

oops

/sheepish grin


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Sent: 13 June 2005 12:48
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] MODERATOR NEEDED NOW!!! /was Friday humour


On 6/13/05, Roz Clarke <roz.clarke at donnslaw.co.uk> wrote:

> As a general reminder, please everyone - if you need to refer a thread 
> to the mods and none seem to be around, email us at 
> ops-mod at databaseadvisors.com.

Actually, only Moderators can post to ops-mod at databaseadvisors.com. It's a
closed list for the mods only.

Please sned a note to one or more of the moderators listed at
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From mmattys at rochester.rr.com  Mon Jun 13 08:13:33 2005
From: mmattys at rochester.rr.com (Michael R Mattys)
Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2005 09:13:33 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] invalid number of arguments
References: <002a01c56f98$c62e6a90$fac581d5@pedro>
	<017001c56fa4$4d7685e0$0202a8c0@default>
	<001901c57015$3ddf5dc0$fac581d5@pedro>
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Pedro,

Sorry. This is how I remove linked tables:
To make it so that you remove only specific tables
you modify it so that you end up with Neal's function.

Function RemoveLinkedTbls()
    Dim db As DAO.Database, tdf As DAO.TableDef
    Set db = CurrentDb
    For Each tdf In db.TableDefs
        If tdf.Connect <> "" Then
            DoCmd.DeleteObject acTable, tdf.Name
        End If
    Next
    Set db = Nothing
End Function
----

Michael R. Mattys
Mattys MapLib for Microsoft MapPoint
http://www.mattysconsulting.com



----- Original Message -----
From: "Pedro Janssen" <pedro at plex.nl>
To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving"
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Monday, June 13, 2005 8:41 AM
Subject: Re: [AccessD] invalid number of arguments


> Hello Michael,
>
> when using db.TableDefs(strTableName).Delete it gives an compile-error:
> Can't find methode or member.
>
> Any other ideas.
>
> Pedro Janssen
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Michael R Mattys" <mmattys at rochester.rr.com>
> To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving"
> <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
> Sent: Monday, June 13, 2005 1:13 AM
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] invalid number of arguments
>
>
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Pedro Janssen" <pedro at plex.nl>
> > To: <AccessD at databaseadvisors.com>
> > Sent: Sunday, June 12, 2005 5:50 PM
> > Subject: [AccessD] invalid number of arguments
> >
> >
> > Hello Group,
> >
> > i am using a function that Neil Kling provided me in the past.
> > When running it from an expression i get an error:
> >
> > Invalid number of arguments.
> >
> > Who can help me with this
> >
> > ------
> >
> > Pedro,
> >
> > It should be
> >
> > db.TableDefs(strTableName).Delete
> >
> > ----
> >
> > Michael R. Mattys
> > Mattys MapLib for Microsoft MapPoint
> > http://www.mattysconsulting.com
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From dkalsow at yahoo.com  Mon Jun 13 09:40:53 2005
From: dkalsow at yahoo.com (Dale Kalsow)
Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2005 07:40:53 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [AccessD] Friday humour
In-Reply-To: <7B1961ED924D1A459E378C9B1BB22B4C0492C98D@natexch.jenkens.com>
Message-ID: <20050613144053.92498.qmail@web50409.mail.yahoo.com>


Good Morning Everyone,

Some one told me I can create a visio document and then from visio create my SQL tables.  Does anyone know who to do this?  Does it also work for MS Access?  Can I also go from SQL or Access and have my table documented in Visio?

 

Thanks!

Dale

 

		
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From andy at minstersystems.co.uk  Mon Jun 13 09:46:05 2005
From: andy at minstersystems.co.uk (Andy Lacey)
Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2005 15:46:05 +0100
Subject: [AccessD] Friday humour
Message-ID: <20050613144601.DCEF424E637@smtp.nildram.co.uk>

Hi Dale
Sorry but I don't get it. It must be the way you tell 'em.

(I think you need to change the Subject)

--
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Date: 13/06/05 14:42

>
>
> Good Morning Everyone,
>
> Some one told me I can create a visio document and then from visio create
my SQL tables.  Does anyone know who to do this?  Does it also work for MS
Access?  Can I also go from SQL or Access and have my table documented in
Visio?
>
>
>
> Thanks!
>
> Dale
>
>
>
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From mikedorism at verizon.net  Mon Jun 13 10:41:09 2005
From: mikedorism at verizon.net (Mike & Doris Manning)
Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2005 11:41:09 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Visio Database Question
In-Reply-To: <20050613144053.92498.qmail@web50409.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <001701c5702e$52a4b660$2f01a8c0@hargrove.internal>

You need Visio Professional.  It does work\s with both Access and SQL
Server.  The template you want is the Database Model Diagram.

Doris Manning
Database Administrator
Hargrove Inc.
www.hargroveinc.com


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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
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Sent: Monday, June 13, 2005 10:41 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Friday humour



Good Morning Everyone,

Some one told me I can create a visio document and then from visio create my
SQL tables.  Does anyone know who to do this?  Does it also work for MS
Access?  Can I also go from SQL or Access and have my table documented in
Visio?

 

Thanks!

Dale

 

		
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From Drawbridge.Jack at ic.gc.ca  Mon Jun 13 13:53:01 2005
From: Drawbridge.Jack at ic.gc.ca (Drawbridge, Jack: #CIO - BPI)
Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2005 14:53:01 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Automating - IE6 - File Save As -- Marty
Message-ID: <0F3AFAE449DD4A40BED8B6C4A97ABF5B0298AABE@MSG-MB3.icent.ic.gc.ca>

Marty

Thanks for info. It's close to what I'm looking for. 
Have not seen the ".queryCommandEnabled" or ".execCommand"

In your code
    'or alternate method that security may clobber, saves everthing with 
      fileopen box used
     -With objExplorer.Document
       -If .queryCommandEnabled("saveAs") Then .execCommand "saveAs", False, 
         "C:\temp\myurl.htm"
      -End With
 I'm trying to actually use File SaveAs Webpage, Complete. If you manually do a File SaveAs in Internet explorer, you'll see other options than (htm,html).
Your technique gives me (htm, html). Can you see any means of supplying/gettign other options?

Thanks
jack


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of MartyConnelly
Sent: Friday, June 10, 2005 6:40 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Automating - IE6 - File Save As -- Marty


You maynot be able to do this for security reasons on second method.
Ran this okay from WinXP SP2, Access97, IE6.0.2900  xpsp2 patches

Here are two ways.

'This gets around security limitations
'will only save between <body> </body> tags
CreateObject("Scripting.FileSystemObject").OpenTextFile("C:\temp\myurlsaved.htm", 
2, True).Write _
   objExplorer.Document.Body.innerHTML

'or alternate method that security may clobber, saves everthing with 
fileopen box used
With objExplorer.Document
  If .queryCommandEnabled("saveAs") Then .execCommand "saveAs", False, 
"C:\temp\myurl.htm"
 End With

Anywho here is some rough test code, that works both ways.
You can throw out all the commented objdocument code at bottom.


Sub testIESave(strpassHTML As String)
'------------------
'testIESave "http://www.Viescas.com/"
Dim objExplorer As Object
Dim objDocument As Object
Dim strComputer As String

Dim strReturn As String

Set objExplorer = CreateObject("InternetExplorer.Application")

'objExplorer.navigate "about:blank"
objExplorer.navigate strpassHTML
objExplorer.Toolbar = 1 'or 0 to turnoff toolbar turned off maynot save 
all html source
objExplorer.StatusBar = 0
objExplorer.Width = 800
objExplorer.Height = 570
objExplorer.Left = 0
objExplorer.Top = 0
objExplorer.Visible = 1
'dont't need to navigate to file or http site
'just drop html string in document object
'objExplorer.Navigate "file://c:\temp\test.html"
'objExplorer.Navigate "http://www.Viescas.com/"
'objExplorer.Navigate "http://checkip.dyndns.org/"

Do While (objExplorer.Busy)
Loop
Dim webtx As String
Dim strHTML As String
'will only save between <body> </body> tags
CreateObject("Scripting.FileSystemObject").OpenTextFile("C:\temp\myurlsmall.htm", 
2, True).Write _
   objExplorer.Document.Body.innerHTML
'alternate method security may clobber saves everything
With objExplorer.Document
  If .queryCommandEnabled("saveAs") Then .execCommand "saveAs", False, 
"C:\temp\myurl.htm"
 End With
 
'Set objDocument = objExplorer.Document
'objDocument.Open
'objDocument.writeln "<html><head><title>My Continuous 
Pictures</title></head>"
'you probably don't need all this but you could throw in some css
'objDocument.writeln "<body bgcolor='red';" & _
'    " {   background-attachment: fixed; background-position: 97% 
bottom; " & _
'      "  background-image= 'url(logoBackGround.gif)';background-repeat: 
no-repeat;" & _
'       " padding: 5px;font-family='Georgia';font-size: 80%;} >"
   
'objDocument.writeln "<table width='100%'>"
'objDocument.writeln "<tr>"
'objDocument.writeln "<td width='20%'><b>Pictures</b></td>"
'objDocument.writeln "</tr>"
'objDocument.writeln "</table>"

'objDocument.writeln "<h3>Method #2:</h3><img src = ""C:\Access 
files\CandaceTripp\picture\shakes.bmp"" Width = ""150"" Height = ""75"" 
alt = ""Random Image #4"" />"

'objDocument.writeln strpassHTML
'objDocument.writeln "</body></html>"
'objDocument.Write()
'objDocument.Close
'MsgBox "finished"
Set objExplorer = Nothing
Set objDocument = Nothing

End Sub


Drawbridge, Jack: #CIO - BPI wrote:

>Have had no responses with original post. I believe it is a question of automating IE, and how to get to CommonDialog in order to do the File Save As.
>
>IE does a fantastic job of removing relative links and downloading a clean set of files when using the File Save As webpage complete option. I do not want to do the File saves manually. There must be a means to automate this in VBA???
>
>Any advice/help on this would be greatly appreciated.
>
>Thanks,
>
>jack
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Drawbridge,
>Jack: #CIO - BPI
>Sent: Thursday, June 2, 2005 3:01 PM
>To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
>Subject: [AccessD] A2K talking to IE6 - File Save As
>
>
>Looking for help/advice or sample code to open IE6 from code in A2K. Am interested in how to do a File| Save As Webpage, Complete.
>We have a database of 60000 companies and want to put extracts of selected 100-500 companies (html and graphics etc) onto a CD for use with Offline Browser.
>
>Can not figure out how to get to IE6 File | Save As.
>
>I have some code to open a page with IE browser and save all the links on the page.
>
>Any help would be appreciated.
>
>TIA 
>
>jack
>
>'---- CODE to GET the Links from a given page ----
>'---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>' Procedure : GetLinks
>' DateTime  : 2005-06-02 14:19
>' Author    :
>' Purpose   : get all links from a named webpage URL
>'---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>'
>Sub GetLinks()
>
>' ** need to set a reference to
>' ** Microsoft Internet Controls
>
>    Dim IeApp As InternetExplorer
>    Dim sURL As String
>    Dim IeDoc As Object
>    Dim i As Long
>    
>   'Create new instance of IE
>    Set IeApp = New InternetExplorer
>    
>    'May wish to make IeApp visible
>    'apparently some things don't work
>    'unless it's visible
>    IeApp.Visible = False
>    
>    'define the page to open
>    sURL = "www.diligens.com"
>    
>    'navigate to the page based on URL
>    IeApp.Navigate sURL
>   
>    'Pause until the webpage is completely loaded
>    Do
>    Loop Until IeApp.ReadyState = READYSTATE_COMPLETE
>    
>    'Create instance of Document object
>    Set IeDoc = IeApp.Document
>  
>    'Loop through the document's links collection.
>    For i = 0 To IeDoc.links.Length - 1
>        Debug.Print IeDoc.links(i).href
>    Next i
>    
>    'Clean up
>    Set IeApp = Nothing
>    Set IeDoc = Nothing
>End Sub
>  
>

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From pedro at plex.nl  Mon Jun 13 14:10:46 2005
From: pedro at plex.nl (Pedro Janssen)
Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2005 21:10:46 +0200
Subject: [AccessD] invalid number of arguments
References: <002a01c56f98$c62e6a90$fac581d5@pedro><017001c56fa4$4d7685e0$0202a8c0@default><001901c57015$3ddf5dc0$fac581d5@pedro>
	<00c101c57019$b79955e0$0202a8c0@default>
Message-ID: <002301c5704b$9b1b4180$fac581d5@pedro>

Thanks for this code Michael,

but i need to solve the invalid argument error anyway, because i have other
codes with the same problem.

Pedro Janssen


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From: "Michael R Mattys" <mmattys at rochester.rr.com>
To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving"
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Monday, June 13, 2005 3:13 PM
Subject: Re: [AccessD] invalid number of arguments


> Pedro,
>
> Sorry. This is how I remove linked tables:
> To make it so that you remove only specific tables
> you modify it so that you end up with Neal's function.
>
> Function RemoveLinkedTbls()
>     Dim db As DAO.Database, tdf As DAO.TableDef
>     Set db = CurrentDb
>     For Each tdf In db.TableDefs
>         If tdf.Connect <> "" Then
>             DoCmd.DeleteObject acTable, tdf.Name
>         End If
>     Next
>     Set db = Nothing
> End Function
> ----
>
> Michael R. Mattys
> Mattys MapLib for Microsoft MapPoint
> http://www.mattysconsulting.com
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Pedro Janssen" <pedro at plex.nl>
> To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving"
> <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
> Sent: Monday, June 13, 2005 8:41 AM
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] invalid number of arguments
>
>
> > Hello Michael,
> >
> > when using db.TableDefs(strTableName).Delete it gives an compile-error:
> > Can't find methode or member.
> >
> > Any other ideas.
> >
> > Pedro Janssen
> >
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Michael R Mattys" <mmattys at rochester.rr.com>
> > To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving"
> > <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
> > Sent: Monday, June 13, 2005 1:13 AM
> > Subject: Re: [AccessD] invalid number of arguments
> >
> >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Pedro Janssen" <pedro at plex.nl>
> > > To: <AccessD at databaseadvisors.com>
> > > Sent: Sunday, June 12, 2005 5:50 PM
> > > Subject: [AccessD] invalid number of arguments
> > >
> > >
> > > Hello Group,
> > >
> > > i am using a function that Neil Kling provided me in the past.
> > > When running it from an expression i get an error:
> > >
> > > Invalid number of arguments.
> > >
> > > Who can help me with this
> > >
> > > ------
> > >
> > > Pedro,
> > >
> > > It should be
> > >
> > > db.TableDefs(strTableName).Delete
> > >
> > > ----
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> > > Michael R. Mattys
> > > Mattys MapLib for Microsoft MapPoint
> > > http://www.mattysconsulting.com
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From pedro at plex.nl  Mon Jun 13 14:14:47 2005
From: pedro at plex.nl (Pedro Janssen)
Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2005 21:14:47 +0200
Subject: [AccessD] invalid number of arguments
References: <30BC111F638EB54082001A7E7282FE4107F3BE@elmo.co.montgomery.ny.us>
Message-ID: <002901c5704c$2a9720e0$fac581d5@pedro>

Hello Neal,

i now have tried:

Function DeleteTableLink(tblDebiteurAlgemeen As String) As Boolean
On Error GoTo Err_DeleteTableLink
  Dim db As Database

  Set db = DBEngine(0)(0)
  db.TableDefs.Delete (tblDebiteurAlgemeen)
  db.TableDefs.Refresh

  DeleteTableLink = True

Exit_DeleteTableLink:

etc.etc.etc


but i still have the error.

Anyone any ideas.

Pedro



----- Original Message -----
From: "Neal Kling" <nkling at co.montgomery.ny.us>
To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving"
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Monday, June 13, 2005 2:52 PM
Subject: RE: [AccessD] invalid number of arguments


> I see you're setting the table variable right in the function. But the
function it's self is still expecting you to pass a table name. I suspect
this may be where you are having a problem. Either redeclare the function
without the strTableName parameter, or pass it the table name. In other
words instead of setting strTableName in the function, call the function
like this:
>
> DeleteTableLink "tblDebiteurAlgemeen"
>
> Don't forget to comment out the line
> strTableName = "tblDebiteurAlgemeen"
>
> Neal
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Pedro Janssen
> Sent: Sunday, June 12, 2005 5:51 PM
> To: AccessD at databaseadvisors.com
> Subject: [AccessD] invalid number of arguments
>
>
> Hello Group,
>
> i am using a function that Neil Kling provided me in the past.
> When running it from an expression i get an error:
>
> Invalid number of arguments.
>
> Who can help me with this
>
> Pedro Janssen
>
>
>
>
> Function DeleteTableLink(strTableName As String) As Boolean
> On Error GoTo Err_DeleteTableLink
>   Dim db As Database
>
>   strTableName = "tblDebiteurAlgemeen"
>
>   Set db = DBEngine(0)(0)
>   db.TableDefs.Delete strTableName
>   db.TableDefs.Refresh
>
>   DeleteTableLink = True
>
> Exit_DeleteTableLink:
> Exit Function
>
> Err_DeleteTableLink:
>   Select Case Err
>   Case 0    'insert Errors you wish to ignore here
>     Resume Next
>   Case 3265      'Item doesn't exist in collection
>         Resume Next
>   Case Else 'All other errors will trap
>     Beep
>     MsgBox Err.Number & "; " & Err.Description, , "Error in function
basObjectHandlers.DeleteTableLink"
>   Resume Exit_DeleteTableLink
>   End Select
>   Resume 0  'FOR TROUBLESHOOTING
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From mmattys at rochester.rr.com  Mon Jun 13 14:41:24 2005
From: mmattys at rochester.rr.com (Michael R Mattys)
Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2005 15:41:24 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] invalid number of arguments
References: <002a01c56f98$c62e6a90$fac581d5@pedro>
	<017001c56fa4$4d7685e0$0202a8c0@default>
	<001901c57015$3ddf5dc0$fac581d5@pedro>
	<00c101c57019$b79955e0$0202a8c0@default>
	<002301c5704b$9b1b4180$fac581d5@pedro>
Message-ID: <00be01c5704f$e33b0370$0202a8c0@default>

Pedro,

Will the error go away if you set a reference to DAO 3.6
and then put Dim db As DAO.Database?
----

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Mattys MapLib for Microsoft MapPoint
http://www.mattysconsulting.com



----- Original Message -----
From: "Pedro Janssen" <pedro at plex.nl>
To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving"
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Monday, June 13, 2005 3:10 PM
Subject: Re: [AccessD] invalid number of arguments


> Thanks for this code Michael,
>
> but i need to solve the invalid argument error anyway, because i have
other
> codes with the same problem.
>
> Pedro Janssen
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Michael R Mattys" <mmattys at rochester.rr.com>
> To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving"
> <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
> Sent: Monday, June 13, 2005 3:13 PM
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] invalid number of arguments
>
>
> > Pedro,
> >
> > Sorry. This is how I remove linked tables:
> > To make it so that you remove only specific tables
> > you modify it so that you end up with Neal's function.
> >
> > Function RemoveLinkedTbls()
> >     Dim db As DAO.Database, tdf As DAO.TableDef
> >     Set db = CurrentDb
> >     For Each tdf In db.TableDefs
> >         If tdf.Connect <> "" Then
> >             DoCmd.DeleteObject acTable, tdf.Name
> >         End If
> >     Next
> >     Set db = Nothing
> > End Function
> > ----
> >
> > Michael R. Mattys
> > Mattys MapLib for Microsoft MapPoint
> > http://www.mattysconsulting.com
> >
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Pedro Janssen" <pedro at plex.nl>
> > To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving"
> > <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
> > Sent: Monday, June 13, 2005 8:41 AM
> > Subject: Re: [AccessD] invalid number of arguments
> >
> >
> > > Hello Michael,
> > >
> > > when using db.TableDefs(strTableName).Delete it gives an
compile-error:
> > > Can't find methode or member.
> > >
> > > Any other ideas.
> > >
> > > Pedro Janssen
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Michael R Mattys" <mmattys at rochester.rr.com>
> > > To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving"
> > > <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
> > > Sent: Monday, June 13, 2005 1:13 AM
> > > Subject: Re: [AccessD] invalid number of arguments
> > >
> > >
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: "Pedro Janssen" <pedro at plex.nl>
> > > > To: <AccessD at databaseadvisors.com>
> > > > Sent: Sunday, June 12, 2005 5:50 PM
> > > > Subject: [AccessD] invalid number of arguments
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Hello Group,
> > > >
> > > > i am using a function that Neil Kling provided me in the past.
> > > > When running it from an expression i get an error:
> > > >
> > > > Invalid number of arguments.
> > > >
> > > > Who can help me with this
> > > >
> > > > ------
> > > >
> > > > Pedro,
> > > >
> > > > It should be
> > > >
> > > > db.TableDefs(strTableName).Delete
> > > >
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From mikedorism at verizon.net  Mon Jun 13 14:45:46 2005
From: mikedorism at verizon.net (Mike & Doris Manning)
Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2005 15:45:46 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] invalid number of arguments
In-Reply-To: <002901c5704c$2a9720e0$fac581d5@pedro>
Message-ID: <001a01c57050$7e6d15e0$2f01a8c0@hargrove.internal>

What are you passing in as the value of "tblDebiteurAlgemeen"?

Doris Manning
Database Administrator
Hargrove Inc.
www.hargroveinc.com


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Pedro Janssen
Sent: Monday, June 13, 2005 3:15 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] invalid number of arguments


Hello Neal,

i now have tried:

Function DeleteTableLink(tblDebiteurAlgemeen As String) As Boolean On Error
GoTo Err_DeleteTableLink
  Dim db As Database

  Set db = DBEngine(0)(0)
  db.TableDefs.Delete (tblDebiteurAlgemeen)
  db.TableDefs.Refresh

  DeleteTableLink = True

Exit_DeleteTableLink:

etc.etc.etc


but i still have the error.

Anyone any ideas.

Pedro



----- Original Message -----
From: "Neal Kling" <nkling at co.montgomery.ny.us>
To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving"
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Monday, June 13, 2005 2:52 PM
Subject: RE: [AccessD] invalid number of arguments


> I see you're setting the table variable right in the function. But the
function it's self is still expecting you to pass a table name. I suspect
this may be where you are having a problem. Either redeclare the function
without the strTableName parameter, or pass it the table name. In other
words instead of setting strTableName in the function, call the function
like this:
>
> DeleteTableLink "tblDebiteurAlgemeen"
>
> Don't forget to comment out the line
> strTableName = "tblDebiteurAlgemeen"
>
> Neal
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Pedro 
> Janssen
> Sent: Sunday, June 12, 2005 5:51 PM
> To: AccessD at databaseadvisors.com
> Subject: [AccessD] invalid number of arguments
>
>
> Hello Group,
>
> i am using a function that Neil Kling provided me in the past. When 
> running it from an expression i get an error:
>
> Invalid number of arguments.
>
> Who can help me with this
>
> Pedro Janssen
>
>
>
>
> Function DeleteTableLink(strTableName As String) As Boolean On Error 
> GoTo Err_DeleteTableLink
>   Dim db As Database
>
>   strTableName = "tblDebiteurAlgemeen"
>
>   Set db = DBEngine(0)(0)
>   db.TableDefs.Delete strTableName
>   db.TableDefs.Refresh
>
>   DeleteTableLink = True
>
> Exit_DeleteTableLink:
> Exit Function
>
> Err_DeleteTableLink:
>   Select Case Err
>   Case 0    'insert Errors you wish to ignore here
>     Resume Next
>   Case 3265      'Item doesn't exist in collection
>         Resume Next
>   Case Else 'All other errors will trap
>     Beep
>     MsgBox Err.Number & "; " & Err.Description, , "Error in function
basObjectHandlers.DeleteTableLink"
>   Resume Exit_DeleteTableLink
>   End Select
>   Resume 0  'FOR TROUBLESHOOTING
> End Function
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From nkling at co.montgomery.ny.us  Mon Jun 13 14:49:54 2005
From: nkling at co.montgomery.ny.us (Neal Kling)
Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2005 15:49:54 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] invalid number of arguments
Message-ID: <30BC111F638EB54082001A7E7282FE41114D45@elmo.co.montgomery.ny.us>

Pedro,

This line

Function DeleteTableLink(tblDebiteurAlgemeen As String) As Boolean

is telling the function that it is going to expect you to pass it a string parameter of the name of the table you want to delete.

Where you are calling the function it would have to done like this:
DeleteTableLink "tblDebiteurAlgemeen"

That way the function knows which table to delete. If this is causing you too many problems you can get rid of the requirement for that parameter and declare the function like this:

Function DeleteTableLink() as Boolean

Then you would need to specify which table in the function like this

db.TableDefs.Delete "tblDebiteurAlgemeen"

The problem is now you have a function that will only do one thing. It won't be reusable.

Neal

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[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Pedro Janssen
Sent: Monday, June 13, 2005 3:15 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] invalid number of arguments


Hello Neal,

i now have tried:

Function DeleteTableLink(tblDebiteurAlgemeen As String) As Boolean
On Error GoTo Err_DeleteTableLink
  Dim db As Database

  Set db = DBEngine(0)(0)
  db.TableDefs.Delete (tblDebiteurAlgemeen)
  db.TableDefs.Refresh

  DeleteTableLink = True

Exit_DeleteTableLink:

etc.etc.etc


but i still have the error.

Anyone any ideas.

Pedro



----- Original Message -----
From: "Neal Kling" <nkling at co.montgomery.ny.us>
To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving"
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Monday, June 13, 2005 2:52 PM
Subject: RE: [AccessD] invalid number of arguments


> I see you're setting the table variable right in the function. But the
function it's self is still expecting you to pass a table name. I suspect
this may be where you are having a problem. Either redeclare the function
without the strTableName parameter, or pass it the table name. In other
words instead of setting strTableName in the function, call the function
like this:
>
> DeleteTableLink "tblDebiteurAlgemeen"
>
> Don't forget to comment out the line
> strTableName = "tblDebiteurAlgemeen"
>
> Neal
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Pedro Janssen
> Sent: Sunday, June 12, 2005 5:51 PM
> To: AccessD at databaseadvisors.com
> Subject: [AccessD] invalid number of arguments
>
>
> Hello Group,
>
> i am using a function that Neil Kling provided me in the past.
> When running it from an expression i get an error:
>
> Invalid number of arguments.
>
> Who can help me with this
>
> Pedro Janssen
>
>
>
>
> Function DeleteTableLink(strTableName As String) As Boolean
> On Error GoTo Err_DeleteTableLink
>   Dim db As Database
>
>   strTableName = "tblDebiteurAlgemeen"
>
>   Set db = DBEngine(0)(0)
>   db.TableDefs.Delete strTableName
>   db.TableDefs.Refresh
>
>   DeleteTableLink = True
>
> Exit_DeleteTableLink:
> Exit Function
>
> Err_DeleteTableLink:
>   Select Case Err
>   Case 0    'insert Errors you wish to ignore here
>     Resume Next
>   Case 3265      'Item doesn't exist in collection
>         Resume Next
>   Case Else 'All other errors will trap
>     Beep
>     MsgBox Err.Number & "; " & Err.Description, , "Error in function
basObjectHandlers.DeleteTableLink"
>   Resume Exit_DeleteTableLink
>   End Select
>   Resume 0  'FOR TROUBLESHOOTING
> End Function
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From nkling at co.montgomery.ny.us  Mon Jun 13 14:51:11 2005
From: nkling at co.montgomery.ny.us (Neal Kling)
Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2005 15:51:11 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] invalid number of arguments
Message-ID: <30BC111F638EB54082001A7E7282FE4107F3D6@elmo.co.montgomery.ny.us>

I believe he's passing nothing, which of course results in the missing parameter. Perhaps you can explain this better than I.

Neal

-----Original Message-----
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Manning
Sent: Monday, June 13, 2005 3:46 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] invalid number of arguments


What are you passing in as the value of "tblDebiteurAlgemeen"?

Doris Manning
Database Administrator
Hargrove Inc.
www.hargroveinc.com


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Pedro Janssen
Sent: Monday, June 13, 2005 3:15 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] invalid number of arguments


Hello Neal,

i now have tried:

Function DeleteTableLink(tblDebiteurAlgemeen As String) As Boolean On Error
GoTo Err_DeleteTableLink
  Dim db As Database

  Set db = DBEngine(0)(0)
  db.TableDefs.Delete (tblDebiteurAlgemeen)
  db.TableDefs.Refresh

  DeleteTableLink = True

Exit_DeleteTableLink:

etc.etc.etc


but i still have the error.

Anyone any ideas.

Pedro



----- Original Message -----
From: "Neal Kling" <nkling at co.montgomery.ny.us>
To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving"
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Monday, June 13, 2005 2:52 PM
Subject: RE: [AccessD] invalid number of arguments


> I see you're setting the table variable right in the function. But the
function it's self is still expecting you to pass a table name. I suspect
this may be where you are having a problem. Either redeclare the function
without the strTableName parameter, or pass it the table name. In other
words instead of setting strTableName in the function, call the function
like this:
>
> DeleteTableLink "tblDebiteurAlgemeen"
>
> Don't forget to comment out the line
> strTableName = "tblDebiteurAlgemeen"
>
> Neal
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Pedro 
> Janssen
> Sent: Sunday, June 12, 2005 5:51 PM
> To: AccessD at databaseadvisors.com
> Subject: [AccessD] invalid number of arguments
>
>
> Hello Group,
>
> i am using a function that Neil Kling provided me in the past. When 
> running it from an expression i get an error:
>
> Invalid number of arguments.
>
> Who can help me with this
>
> Pedro Janssen
>
>
>
>
> Function DeleteTableLink(strTableName As String) As Boolean On Error 
> GoTo Err_DeleteTableLink
>   Dim db As Database
>
>   strTableName = "tblDebiteurAlgemeen"
>
>   Set db = DBEngine(0)(0)
>   db.TableDefs.Delete strTableName
>   db.TableDefs.Refresh
>
>   DeleteTableLink = True
>
> Exit_DeleteTableLink:
> Exit Function
>
> Err_DeleteTableLink:
>   Select Case Err
>   Case 0    'insert Errors you wish to ignore here
>     Resume Next
>   Case 3265      'Item doesn't exist in collection
>         Resume Next
>   Case Else 'All other errors will trap
>     Beep
>     MsgBox Err.Number & "; " & Err.Description, , "Error in function
basObjectHandlers.DeleteTableLink"
>   Resume Exit_DeleteTableLink
>   End Select
>   Resume 0  'FOR TROUBLESHOOTING
> End Function
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From marcus at tsstech.com  Mon Jun 13 15:15:24 2005
From: marcus at tsstech.com (Scott Marcus)
Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2005 16:15:24 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Visio data modeling: was Friday humour
Message-ID: <B7B1803D6973C84F97D412AFCDA8EA7D023BC104@2003exchg.TSS.AD>

This requires the enterprise architect version of Visual Studio 2003. 

-----Original Message-----
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Sent: Monday, June 13, 2005 10:41 AM
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Subject: RE: [AccessD] Friday humour


Good Morning Everyone,

Some one told me I can create a visio document and then from visio
create my SQL tables.  Does anyone know who to do this?  Does it also
work for MS Access?  Can I also go from SQL or Access and have my table
documented in Visio?

 

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From mikedorism at verizon.net  Mon Jun 13 15:44:18 2005
From: mikedorism at verizon.net (Mike & Doris Manning)
Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2005 16:44:18 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Visio data modeling: was Friday humour
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No it doesn't.  Visio Professional 2002 and 2003 have the same capabilities.
Visio uses ODBC to link directly to the databases involved.

Doris Manning
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Sent: Monday, June 13, 2005 4:15 PM
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Subject: RE: [AccessD] Visio data modeling: was Friday humour


This requires the enterprise architect version of Visual Studio 2003. 

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Sent: Monday, June 13, 2005 10:41 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Friday humour


Good Morning Everyone,

Some one told me I can create a visio document and then from visio create my
SQL tables.  Does anyone know who to do this?  Does it also work for MS
Access?  Can I also go from SQL or Access and have my table documented in
Visio?

 

Thanks!

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From marcus at tsstech.com  Mon Jun 13 15:54:39 2005
From: marcus at tsstech.com (Scott Marcus)
Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2005 16:54:39 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Visio data modeling: was Friday humour
Message-ID: <B7B1803D6973C84F97D412AFCDA8EA7D023BC10E@2003exchg.TSS.AD>

So you have Visio 2003 Pro? I have it and you cannot generate the
database. But the 2003 version called enterprise architect does (which I
also have).

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Manning
Sent: Monday, June 13, 2005 4:44 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Visio data modeling: was Friday humour

No it doesn't.  Visio Professional 2002 and 2003 have the same
capabilities.
Visio uses ODBC to link directly to the databases involved.

Doris Manning
Database Administrator
Hargrove Inc.
www.hargroveinc.com


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Sent: Monday, June 13, 2005 4:15 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Visio data modeling: was Friday humour


This requires the enterprise architect version of Visual Studio 2003. 

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Dale Kalsow
Sent: Monday, June 13, 2005 10:41 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Friday humour


Good Morning Everyone,

Some one told me I can create a visio document and then from visio
create my
SQL tables.  Does anyone know who to do this?  Does it also work for MS
Access?  Can I also go from SQL or Access and have my table documented
in
Visio?

 

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From cfoust at infostatsystems.com  Mon Jun 13 16:02:05 2005
From: cfoust at infostatsystems.com (Charlotte Foust)
Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2005 14:02:05 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Visio data modeling: was Friday humour
Message-ID: <E61FC1D4B1918244905B113C680BEA86873A9C@infoserver01.infostat.local>

The enterprise edition of Visio is required to *generate* database
structures from a Visio database diagram.  The Pro version will reverse
engineer the structure into a diagram.  The forward engineering was
removed from the Pro version after Microsoft acquired the product.

Charlotte Foust


-----Original Message-----
From: Mike & Doris Manning [mailto:mikedorism at verizon.net] 
Sent: Monday, June 13, 2005 1:44 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Visio data modeling: was Friday humour


No it doesn't.  Visio Professional 2002 and 2003 have the same
capabilities. Visio uses ODBC to link directly to the databases
involved.

Doris Manning
Database Administrator
Hargrove Inc.
www.hargroveinc.com


-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Scott Marcus
Sent: Monday, June 13, 2005 4:15 PM
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Subject: RE: [AccessD] Visio data modeling: was Friday humour


This requires the enterprise architect version of Visual Studio 2003. 

-----Original Message-----
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Sent: Monday, June 13, 2005 10:41 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Friday humour


Good Morning Everyone,

Some one told me I can create a visio document and then from visio
create my SQL tables.  Does anyone know who to do this?  Does it also
work for MS Access?  Can I also go from SQL or Access and have my table
documented in Visio?

 

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From Robert at servicexp.com  Mon Jun 13 18:56:21 2005
From: Robert at servicexp.com (Robert Gracie)
Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2005 19:56:21 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Detecting Database Connection Type?
In-Reply-To: <E61FC1D4B1918244905B113C680BEA86873A9C@infoserver01.infostat.local>
Message-ID: <20050613235623.6E4FB41468@mail01.powweb.com>

 
 How can one check the type of connection to the back end data, making sure
the connection is not wireless?

Robert



From mmattys at rochester.rr.com  Mon Jun 13 19:15:50 2005
From: mmattys at rochester.rr.com (Michael R Mattys)
Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2005 20:15:50 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Detecting Database Connection Type?
References: <20050613235623.6E4FB41468@mail01.powweb.com>
Message-ID: <019a01c57076$3ae95830$0202a8c0@default>

----- Original Message -----
From: "Robert Gracie" <Robert at servicexp.com>
To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'"
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Monday, June 13, 2005 7:56 PM
Subject: [AccessD] Detecting Database Connection Type?


>
>  How can one check the type of connection to the back end data, making
sure
> the connection is not wireless?

Robert,

What prompted your question?
Is it not simply a matter of connection exists
verus connection does not exist?

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From Robert at servicexp.com  Mon Jun 13 19:38:03 2005
From: Robert at servicexp.com (Robert Gracie)
Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2005 20:38:03 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Detecting Database Connection Type?
In-Reply-To: <019a01c57076$3ae95830$0202a8c0@default>
Message-ID: <20050614003805.CF92C4154D@mail01.powweb.com>

Michael,
 The problem is a little deeper that that. We have several laptop users,
each with wireless capabilities that automatically connect to the LAN. I
have instructed them, (sigh) time and time again, that they must plug into
the network, via a LAN jack before logging in the program. I'm at the point
now where I need to come up with a solution that works to prevent a wireless
connection to this one program. All laptop users are running Win XP.

I sure hope there is a "Coded" solution, as I don't want to convert this
program to SQL....

I hope this helps...

Robert

 

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Sent: Monday, June 13, 2005 8:16 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Detecting Database Connection Type?

----- Original Message -----
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To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'"
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Sent: Monday, June 13, 2005 7:56 PM
Subject: [AccessD] Detecting Database Connection Type?


>
>  How can one check the type of connection to the back end data, making
sure
> the connection is not wireless?

Robert,

What prompted your question?
Is it not simply a matter of connection exists verus connection does not
exist?

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From mmattys at rochester.rr.com  Mon Jun 13 20:18:50 2005
From: mmattys at rochester.rr.com (Michael R Mattys)
Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2005 21:18:50 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Detecting Database Connection Type?
References: <20050614003805.CF92C4154D@mail01.powweb.com>
Message-ID: <01ad01c5707f$0c39cfc0$0202a8c0@default>

----- Original Message -----
From: "Robert Gracie" <Robert at servicexp.com>
To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'"
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Monday, June 13, 2005 8:38 PM
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Detecting Database Connection Type?


> Michael,
>  The problem is a little deeper that that. We have several laptop users,
> each with wireless capabilities that automatically connect to the LAN. I
> have instructed them, (sigh) time and time again, that they must plug into
> the network, via a LAN jack before logging in the program. I'm at the
point
> now where I need to come up with a solution that works to prevent a
wireless
> connection to this one program. All laptop users are running Win XP.
>
> I sure hope there is a "Coded" solution, as I don't want to convert this
> program to SQL....
>
> I hope this helps...
>

Robert,

Wow. Well, this is going to be hit or miss.
I figure it must be WMI related. So, I tried a search
on Google for [ wmi wireless +dim ]. 37 hits.

I saw
"How to Detect Network Connection"
"Enable / Disable 802.1x with some script"
"Disabling Wireless Driver"
"WMI MSNdis_80211_ReceivedSignalStrength"

That MSNdis_80211 could be another search term.

I'm thinking the front-end will need to execute code before
connecting that will disable (well, how would you say it?)
wireless connections while the FE is open.
Good luck to you :)
I may need whatever your solution is someday!

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From martyconnelly at shaw.ca  Mon Jun 13 20:24:17 2005
From: martyconnelly at shaw.ca (MartyConnelly)
Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2005 18:24:17 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Automating - IE6 - File Save As -- Marty
References: <0F3AFAE449DD4A40BED8B6C4A97ABF5B0298AABE@MSG-MB3.icent.ic.gc.ca>
Message-ID: <42AE31C1.7010103@shaw.ca>

Ah you want to save the images as well , doing a complete "saveas" will 
save multiple html files and directories, so you might want a single 
archive .mht file.
The reason the "saveas" only allows saves to a text based html  file is 
a security feature. Otherwise the little darlings could save binary 
excutables
onto your disk.
However if you want to risk it, this replacement code will work, 
sendkeys has it own flaws.
It may only work if your browser allows scripting of unsafe ActiveX
Works for me IE 6.01 with Medium security and MS scripting installed

To get an mht archive file you will have to change code to tab around 
with sendkeys.

Dim X As Object
Set X = CreateObject("WScript.Shell")
  X.SendKeys ("%f") ' select IE File Menu
  X.SendKeys ("a") 'selects save as menu
  X.SendKeys ("{del}") 'delete filename
  X.SendKeys ("c:\temp\mycompletehtml") 'double slashes may be required 
if multi folder path
  X.SendKeys ("{Tab}")
  X.SendKeys ("{Tab}") 'get to save button
  X.SendKeys ("{ENTER}") ' comment this out to see what happens on screen

Drawbridge, Jack: #CIO - BPI wrote:

>Marty
>
>Thanks for info. It's close to what I'm looking for. 
>Have not seen the ".queryCommandEnabled" or ".execCommand"
>
>In your code
>    'or alternate method that security may clobber, saves everthing with 
>      fileopen box used
>     -With objExplorer.Document
>       -If .queryCommandEnabled("saveAs") Then .execCommand "saveAs", False, 
>         "C:\temp\myurl.htm"
>      -End With
> I'm trying to actually use File SaveAs Webpage, Complete. If you manually do a File SaveAs in Internet explorer, you'll see other options than (htm,html).
>Your technique gives me (htm, html). Can you see any means of supplying/gettign other options?
>
>Thanks
>jack
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of MartyConnelly
>Sent: Friday, June 10, 2005 6:40 PM
>To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
>Subject: Re: [AccessD] Automating - IE6 - File Save As -- Marty
>
>
>You maynot be able to do this for security reasons on second method.
>Ran this okay from WinXP SP2, Access97, IE6.0.2900  xpsp2 patches
>
>Here are two ways.
>
>'This gets around security limitations
>'will only save between <body> </body> tags
>CreateObject("Scripting.FileSystemObject").OpenTextFile("C:\temp\myurlsaved.htm", 
>2, True).Write _
>   objExplorer.Document.Body.innerHTML
>
>'or alternate method that security may clobber, saves everthing with 
>fileopen box used
>With objExplorer.Document
>  If .queryCommandEnabled("saveAs") Then .execCommand "saveAs", False, 
>"C:\temp\myurl.htm"
> End With
>
>Anywho here is some rough test code, that works both ways.
>You can throw out all the commented objdocument code at bottom.
>
>
>Sub testIESave(strpassHTML As String)
>'------------------
>'testIESave "http://www.Viescas.com/"
>Dim objExplorer As Object
>Dim objDocument As Object
>Dim strComputer As String
>
>Dim strReturn As String
>
>Set objExplorer = CreateObject("InternetExplorer.Application")
>
>'objExplorer.navigate "about:blank"
>objExplorer.navigate strpassHTML
>objExplorer.Toolbar = 1 'or 0 to turnoff toolbar turned off maynot save 
>all html source
>objExplorer.StatusBar = 0
>objExplorer.Width = 800
>objExplorer.Height = 570
>objExplorer.Left = 0
>objExplorer.Top = 0
>objExplorer.Visible = 1
>'dont't need to navigate to file or http site
>'just drop html string in document object
>'objExplorer.Navigate "file://c:\temp\test.html"
>'objExplorer.Navigate "http://www.Viescas.com/"
>'objExplorer.Navigate "http://checkip.dyndns.org/"
>
>Do While (objExplorer.Busy)
>Loop
>Dim webtx As String
>Dim strHTML As String
>'will only save between <body> </body> tags
>CreateObject("Scripting.FileSystemObject").OpenTextFile("C:\temp\myurlsmall.htm", 
>2, True).Write _
>   objExplorer.Document.Body.innerHTML
>'alternate method security may clobber saves everything
>With objExplorer.Document
>  If .queryCommandEnabled("saveAs") Then .execCommand "saveAs", False, 
>"C:\temp\myurl.htm"
> End With
> 
>'Set objDocument = objExplorer.Document
>'objDocument.Open
>'objDocument.writeln "<html><head><title>My Continuous 
>Pictures</title></head>"
>'you probably don't need all this but you could throw in some css
>'objDocument.writeln "<body bgcolor='red';" & _
>'    " {   background-attachment: fixed; background-position: 97% 
>bottom; " & _
>'      "  background-image= 'url(logoBackGround.gif)';background-repeat: 
>no-repeat;" & _
>'       " padding: 5px;font-family='Georgia';font-size: 80%;} >"
>   
>'objDocument.writeln "<table width='100%'>"
>'objDocument.writeln "<tr>"
>'objDocument.writeln "<td width='20%'><b>Pictures</b></td>"
>'objDocument.writeln "</tr>"
>'objDocument.writeln "</table>"
>
>'objDocument.writeln "<h3>Method #2:</h3><img src = ""C:\Access 
>files\CandaceTripp\picture\shakes.bmp"" Width = ""150"" Height = ""75"" 
>alt = ""Random Image #4"" />"
>
>'objDocument.writeln strpassHTML
>'objDocument.writeln "</body></html>"
>'objDocument.Write()
>'objDocument.Close
>'MsgBox "finished"
>Set objExplorer = Nothing
>Set objDocument = Nothing
>
>End Sub
>
>
>Drawbridge, Jack: #CIO - BPI wrote:
>
>  
>
>>Have had no responses with original post. I believe it is a question of automating IE, and how to get to CommonDialog in order to do the File Save As.
>>
>>IE does a fantastic job of removing relative links and downloading a clean set of files when using the File Save As webpage complete option. I do not want to do the File saves manually. There must be a means to automate this in VBA???
>>
>>Any advice/help on this would be greatly appreciated.
>>
>>Thanks,
>>
>>jack
>>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>>[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Drawbridge,
>>Jack: #CIO - BPI
>>Sent: Thursday, June 2, 2005 3:01 PM
>>To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
>>Subject: [AccessD] A2K talking to IE6 - File Save As
>>
>>
>>Looking for help/advice or sample code to open IE6 from code in A2K. Am interested in how to do a File| Save As Webpage, Complete.
>>We have a database of 60000 companies and want to put extracts of selected 100-500 companies (html and graphics etc) onto a CD for use with Offline Browser.
>>
>>Can not figure out how to get to IE6 File | Save As.
>>
>>I have some code to open a page with IE browser and save all the links on the page.
>>
>>Any help would be appreciated.
>>
>>TIA 
>>
>>jack
>>
>>'---- CODE to GET the Links from a given page ----
>>'---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>' Procedure : GetLinks
>>' DateTime  : 2005-06-02 14:19
>>' Author    :
>>' Purpose   : get all links from a named webpage URL
>>'---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>'
>>Sub GetLinks()
>>
>>' ** need to set a reference to
>>' ** Microsoft Internet Controls
>>
>>   Dim IeApp As InternetExplorer
>>   Dim sURL As String
>>   Dim IeDoc As Object
>>   Dim i As Long
>>   
>>  'Create new instance of IE
>>   Set IeApp = New InternetExplorer
>>   
>>   'May wish to make IeApp visible
>>   'apparently some things don't work
>>   'unless it's visible
>>   IeApp.Visible = False
>>   
>>   'define the page to open
>>   sURL = "www.diligens.com"
>>   
>>   'navigate to the page based on URL
>>   IeApp.Navigate sURL
>>  
>>   'Pause until the webpage is completely loaded
>>   Do
>>   Loop Until IeApp.ReadyState = READYSTATE_COMPLETE
>>   
>>   'Create instance of Document object
>>   Set IeDoc = IeApp.Document
>> 
>>   'Loop through the document's links collection.
>>   For i = 0 To IeDoc.links.Length - 1
>>       Debug.Print IeDoc.links(i).href
>>   Next i
>>   
>>   'Clean up
>>   Set IeApp = Nothing
>>   Set IeDoc = Nothing
>>End Sub
>> 
>>
>>    
>>
>
>  
>

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From martyconnelly at shaw.ca  Mon Jun 13 20:37:34 2005
From: martyconnelly at shaw.ca (MartyConnelly)
Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2005 18:37:34 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Visio data modeling: was Friday humour
References: <B7B1803D6973C84F97D412AFCDA8EA7D023BC104@2003exchg.TSS.AD>
Message-ID: <42AE34DE.9050700@shaw.ca>

You could also have a look at various Case Tools. Vast price range from 
a couple of $100 to many thousands.
This is one I prefer Enterprise Architect ,I use to reverse engineer 
Access mdb's, Does Oracle SQL Server and most ODBC
accessible databases, It has a 30 day trial.
Does Data modeling, Forward Database Engineering to DDL and Reverse 
Database Engineering from ODBC
Just point to correct ODBC connection and will turn out an ER diagram, 
with table documentation.

http://www.sparxsystems.com.au/ea.htm

Scott Marcus wrote:

>This requires the enterprise architect version of Visual Studio 2003. 
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Dale Kalsow
>Sent: Monday, June 13, 2005 10:41 AM
>To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
>Subject: RE: [AccessD] Friday humour
>
>
>Good Morning Everyone,
>
>Some one told me I can create a visio document and then from visio
>create my SQL tables.  Does anyone know who to do this?  Does it also
>work for MS Access?  Can I also go from SQL or Access and have my table
>documented in Visio?
>
> 
>
>Thanks!
>
>Dale
>
> 
>
>		
>---------------------------------
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>  
>

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From KP at sdsonline.net  Mon Jun 13 21:01:25 2005
From: KP at sdsonline.net (Kath Pelletti)
Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2005 12:01:25 +1000
Subject: [AccessD]Error loading picture
References: <004601c56f1f$6e8c6090$6601a8c0@user> <42ACA5B2.6090104@shaw.ca>
Message-ID: <006901c57084$f9236e90$6601a8c0@user>

Just change the filename string or just the extension part via UCase or 
LCase
when you pass to the Picture property of the Image control.
Great idea.


You can also download and install, if something has gone wrong with your 
filters.
Office File Converter Pack   OCONVPCK.EXE
Will try.

Kath

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: MartyConnelly 
  To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving 
  Sent: Monday, June 13, 2005 7:14 AM
  Subject: Re: [AccessD]Error loading picture


  Actually it is a bit more bizarre
  You don't have to change the actual physical filename extension case.

  Just change the filename string or just the extension part via UCase or 
  LCase
  when you pass to the Picture property of the Image control.

  lower case bypasses Office Graphics filters, something to do with 
  metafiles in the image.
  If the file extension is in uppercase  then the Office Graphicsfilters 
  will be used to load the image.

  You can also download and install, if something has gone wrong with your 
  filters.

  Office File Converter Pack   OCONVPCK.EXE
  This download provides file converters and image filters for Microsoft 
  Office programs, from Microsoft Office 97 to Microsoft Office 2003.
  It depends on what version of office is installed.

  http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyID=cf196df0-70e5-4595-8a98-370278f40c57&DisplayLang=en

  Info here
  http://office.microsoft.com/en-us/assistance/HA011513581033.aspx

  If you use Lebans method (a bit convoluted) to get .jpeg extensions make 
  this change in Function fLoadPicture
   
  Select Case right$(strfName, 3)

      Case "bmp", "dib", "Gif", "emf", "Wmf", "ico", "cur", "jpg", "peg"

  I gave up using jpegs for other reasons, I was getting microfilm images
  and so used djvu format as it can be up to 10 times smaller on black and 
  white text type images
  and has a text searchable metafile plugins. Some University libraries 
  are using for historical
  archive display on the web. Things like old manuscripts and folios.

  http://www.djvuzone.org/wid/index.html
  http://www.djvuzone.org/

  Kath Pelletti wrote:

  >Re: this problem:
  >
  >  
  >
  >>When the user opens a form which attempts to load a .jpg or .gif picture the system come up with "...the database doesn't support the format of 
  >>'E:\Database\Photos\Peru.jpg' so it can't load the picture.
  >>    
  >>
  >
  >I found a bizarre solution in a line on the Lebans website to the effect that if the file extension is upper case it is treated differently by Access to it being in lower case. Disbelieving, I tried it and it works. If I change the file extension of the 350 photos which this system uses (which I can do with one DOS command) from .jpg to .JPG then Access manages to load them correctly.
  >
  >It's a bit of a bizarre solution but having uninstalled and re-installed the graphics filters for Office twice, then doing a complete re-installation of Office I am relieved to find any kind of a simple solution. 
  >
  >BTW - Marty - I did spend some tine on this:  http://www.lebans.com/loadjpeg?gif.htm but found that it was difficult to follow. Have you used it?  
  >
  >Kath
  >
  >______________________________________________
  >Kath Pelletti
  >Software Design & Solutions Pty Ltd.
  >Ph: 9505-6714
  >Fax: 9505-6430
  >KP at SDSOnline.net
  >  
  >

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From D.Dick at uws.edu.au  Mon Jun 13 21:28:16 2005
From: D.Dick at uws.edu.au (Darren Dick)
Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2005 12:28:16 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] A2003:Connection Method failing
Message-ID: <2FDE83AF1A69C84796CBD13788DDA8833FEECD@BONHAM.AD.UWS.EDU.AU>

Hello all
 
(Cross Posted to Sue and Dmitri's list)
 
The code below used to work - now it doesn't
Our enterprise has moved to Exchange - does that matter?
 
The error is 
ERR.Number =  -2147024769 
ERR.Description = Method 'Connection' of object '_CurrentProject' failed

Any suggestions?
 
Code snip below
 

    Dim rs As Object
    Dim con As Object

    
    Dim objOutlook As Outlook.Application
    Dim objAppt As Outlook.AppointmentItem
    Dim objRecurPattern As Outlook.RecurrencePattern
        
    Set objOutlook = CreateObject("Outlook.Application")
    Set objAppt = objOutlook.CreateItem(olAppointmentItem)
    
    Set rs = CreateObject("ADODB.Recordset")
    Set con = Application.CurrentProject.Connection
'<=============Error here
 


From KP at sdsonline.net  Tue Jun 14 03:33:16 2005
From: KP at sdsonline.net (Kath Pelletti)
Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2005 18:33:16 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] Australia - find nearest location
References: <000a01c56d52$78a71990$6601a8c0@user>
Message-ID: <001c01c570bb$b6e603d0$6601a8c0@user>

What's happening? I posted this last week - and it just appeared on the list now....
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Kath Pelletti 
  To: AccessD at databaseadvisors.com 
  Sent: Friday, June 10, 2005 10:22 AM
  Subject: [AccessD] Australia - find nearest location


  Hi all - Just wondering whether there happens to be anyone on list who may already have done this - 

  I'm writing a new system for a training company and they want add a geographic search capability - ie. they would like to enter a suburb or postcode and the system displays will show the courses which run closest to them geographically.

  Any tips? Or if anyone has done this at all - can you tell me what your approach was?

  Thanks - rgds

  ______________________________________________
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  Software Design & Solutions Pty Ltd.
  Ph: 9505-6714
  Fax: 9505-6430
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From Chris.Foote at uk.thalesgroup.com  Tue Jun 14 03:46:59 2005
From: Chris.Foote at uk.thalesgroup.com (Foote, Chris)
Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2005 09:46:59 +0100
Subject: [AccessD] Australia - find nearest location
Message-ID: <97CF276BD8C6D4119C4B00508BB18DE709E0C79C@ntscxch1.int.rdel.co.uk>

Hi Kath!

Problem may be your end somewhere - I got your original post on Fri 10th
June at 01:24 UK British Summer Time (GMT+1).

There have been at least three replies - did you get them?

Regards
Chris Foote - UK

> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of 
> Kath Pelletti
> Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2005 9:33 AM
> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] Australia - find nearest location
> 
> 
> What's happening? I posted this last week - and it just 
> appeared on the list now....
>   ----- Original Message ----- 
>   From: Kath Pelletti 
>   To: AccessD at databaseadvisors.com 
>   Sent: Friday, June 10, 2005 10:22 AM
>   Subject: [AccessD] Australia - find nearest location
> 
> 
>   Hi all - Just wondering whether there happens to be anyone 
> on list who may already have done this - 
> 
>   I'm writing a new system for a training company and they 
> want add a geographic search capability - ie. they would like 
> to enter a suburb or postcode and the system displays will 
> show the courses which run closest to them geographically.
> 
>   Any tips? Or if anyone has done this at all - can you tell 
> me what your approach was?
> 
>   Thanks - rgds
> 
>   ______________________________________________
>   Kath Pelletti
>   Software Design & Solutions Pty Ltd.
>   Ph: 9505-6714
>   Fax: 9505-6430
>   KP at SDSOnline.net
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From KP at sdsonline.net  Tue Jun 14 04:00:28 2005
From: KP at sdsonline.net (Kath Pelletti)
Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2005 19:00:28 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] Australia - find nearest location
References: <97CF276BD8C6D4119C4B00508BB18DE709E0C79C@ntscxch1.int.rdel.co.uk>
Message-ID: <003801c570bf$82e77b00$6601a8c0@user>

Hi Chris - I got one reply (other than one I also just received from Michael re: Map Point). 

If there were 3 then for some strange reason I didn't get them. I'll search the archive....

rgds
Kath
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Foote, Chris 
  To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' 
  Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2005 6:46 PM
  Subject: RE: [AccessD] Australia - find nearest location


  Hi Kath!

  Problem may be your end somewhere - I got your original post on Fri 10th
  June at 01:24 UK British Summer Time (GMT+1).

  There have been at least three replies - did you get them?

  Regards
  Chris Foote - UK

  > -----Original Message-----
  > From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
  > [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of 
  > Kath Pelletti
  > Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2005 9:33 AM
  > To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
  > Subject: Re: [AccessD] Australia - find nearest location
  > 
  > 
  > What's happening? I posted this last week - and it just 
  > appeared on the list now....
  >   ----- Original Message ----- 
  >   From: Kath Pelletti 
  >   To: AccessD at databaseadvisors.com 
  >   Sent: Friday, June 10, 2005 10:22 AM
  >   Subject: [AccessD] Australia - find nearest location
  > 
  > 
  >   Hi all - Just wondering whether there happens to be anyone 
  > on list who may already have done this - 
  > 
  >   I'm writing a new system for a training company and they 
  > want add a geographic search capability - ie. they would like 
  > to enter a suburb or postcode and the system displays will 
  > show the courses which run closest to them geographically.
  > 
  >   Any tips? Or if anyone has done this at all - can you tell 
  > me what your approach was?
  > 
  >   Thanks - rgds
  > 
  >   ______________________________________________
  >   Kath Pelletti
  >   Software Design & Solutions Pty Ltd.
  >   Ph: 9505-6714
  >   Fax: 9505-6430
  >   KP at SDSOnline.net
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From Chris.Foote at uk.thalesgroup.com  Tue Jun 14 04:03:05 2005
From: Chris.Foote at uk.thalesgroup.com (Foote, Chris)
Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2005 10:03:05 +0100
Subject: [AccessD] Australia - find nearest location
Message-ID: <97CF276BD8C6D4119C4B00508BB18DE709E0C79D@ntscxch1.int.rdel.co.uk>

Strange things happen sometimes!

I'll forward the replies to you off-list Kath!

Regards!
Chris Foote - UK

> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of 
> Kath Pelletti
> Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2005 10:00 AM
> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] Australia - find nearest location
> 
> 
> Hi Chris - I got one reply (other than one I also just 
> received from Michael re: Map Point). 
> 
> If there were 3 then for some strange reason I didn't get 
> them. I'll search the archive....
> 
> rgds
> Kath
>   ----- Original Message ----- 
>   From: Foote, Chris 
>   To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' 
>   Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2005 6:46 PM
>   Subject: RE: [AccessD] Australia - find nearest location
> 
> 
>   Hi Kath!
> 
>   Problem may be your end somewhere - I got your original 
> post on Fri 10th
>   June at 01:24 UK British Summer Time (GMT+1).
> 
>   There have been at least three replies - did you get them?
> 
>   Regards
>   Chris Foote - UK
> 
>   > -----Original Message-----
>   > From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>   > [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of 
>   > Kath Pelletti
>   > Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2005 9:33 AM
>   > To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
>   > Subject: Re: [AccessD] Australia - find nearest location
>   > 
>   > 
>   > What's happening? I posted this last week - and it just 
>   > appeared on the list now....
>   >   ----- Original Message ----- 
>   >   From: Kath Pelletti 
>   >   To: AccessD at databaseadvisors.com 
>   >   Sent: Friday, June 10, 2005 10:22 AM
>   >   Subject: [AccessD] Australia - find nearest location
>   > 
>   > 
>   >   Hi all - Just wondering whether there happens to be anyone 
>   > on list who may already have done this - 
>   > 
>   >   I'm writing a new system for a training company and they 
>   > want add a geographic search capability - ie. they would like 
>   > to enter a suburb or postcode and the system displays will 
>   > show the courses which run closest to them geographically.
>   > 
>   >   Any tips? Or if anyone has done this at all - can you tell 
>   > me what your approach was?
>   > 
>   >   Thanks - rgds
>   > 
>   >   ______________________________________________
>   >   Kath Pelletti
>   >   Software Design & Solutions Pty Ltd.
>   >   Ph: 9505-6714
>   >   Fax: 9505-6430
>   >   KP at SDSOnline.net
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From KP at sdsonline.net  Tue Jun 14 04:05:58 2005
From: KP at sdsonline.net (Kath Pelletti)
Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2005 19:05:58 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] Australia - find nearest location
References: <59A61174B1F5B54B97FD4ADDE71E7D010E4CA3@ddi-01.DDI.local>
Message-ID: <004401c570c0$47bce280$6601a8c0@user>

Thanks Michael - I think I need to learn about the way / rules that postcodes are allocated in my region - that way I may be able to create some sort of process. Just thought someone may have looked into that before.

Basically what I need to know is whether proximity in number = proximity in distance - I am guessing that it won't always be the case...

Kath


----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Michael Maddison 
  To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving 
  Sent: Friday, June 10, 2005 10:48 AM
  Subject: RE: [AccessD] Australia - find nearest location


  Never tried myself, but the discussions here recently on MapPoint might
  lead the way.

  cheers

  Michael M

  Hi all - Just wondering whether there happens to be anyone on list who
  may already have done this - 

  I'm writing a new system for a training company and they want add a
  geographic search capability - ie. they would like to enter a suburb or
  postcode and the system displays will show the courses which run closest
  to them geographically.

  Any tips? Or if anyone has done this at all - can you tell me what your
  approach was?

  Thanks - rgds

  ______________________________________________
  Kath Pelletti
  Software Design & Solutions Pty Ltd.
  Ph: 9505-6714
  Fax: 9505-6430
  KP at SDSOnline.net
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From ssharkins at bellsouth.net  Tue Jun 14 08:25:44 2005
From: ssharkins at bellsouth.net (Susan Harkins)
Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2005 09:25:44 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Australia - find nearest location
In-Reply-To: <001c01c570bb$b6e603d0$6601a8c0@user>
Message-ID: <20050614132543.ULNQ13045.ibm69aec.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>

FWIW, list mail has been bad all week for me -- not just accessd, but all of
the lists I'm on -- I see responses long before the originals -- sometimes
as long as an entire day. Also, my own postings are taking forever to show
up. 

I don't think there's anything we can really do about it, except wait for it
to work itself out. 

Susan H. 

What's happening? I posted this last week - and it just appeared on the list
now....



From Paul.Rogers at SummitMedia.co.uk  Tue Jun 14 08:56:53 2005
From: Paul.Rogers at SummitMedia.co.uk (Paul Rodgers)
Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2005 14:56:53 +0100
Subject: [AccessD] Updating from Text to Number data type
Message-ID: <1FF4D9105232EB4DA1901BB7D175877E03F706@s003.wolds.summitmedia.co.uk>

I'm changing a one-table db over to a relational db.  I have retained old
fields with data so I can update the new look-up fields quickly. 
For example, Hostel records into UnitID via an update query to save doing
hundreds by hand. 

Only ... UnitID becomes a Number data type, and Access2K won't let the data
be moved across. 

Be most grateful for a nod in the right direction. 

All the best
paul 

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From Paul.Rogers at SummitMedia.co.uk  Tue Jun 14 09:01:41 2005
From: Paul.Rogers at SummitMedia.co.uk (Paul Rodgers)
Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2005 15:01:41 +0100
Subject: [AccessD] Web page to Access
Message-ID: <1FF4D9105232EB4DA1901BB7D175877E03F707@s003.wolds.summitmedia.co.uk>

The client asks: Can information in a table (Name, Address, City, etc) on a
webpage be fed (coded) automatically straight into Access 2k?  

I said, 'I don't think so.' But perhaps it is possible. Anyone any
experience, please?

All the best
paul 

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From ssharkins at bellsouth.net  Tue Jun 14 09:02:40 2005
From: ssharkins at bellsouth.net (Susan Harkins)
Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2005 10:02:40 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Web page to Access
In-Reply-To: <1FF4D9105232EB4DA1901BB7D175877E03F707@s003.wolds.summitmedia.co.uk>
Message-ID: <20050614140239.VCVL13045.ibm69aec.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>

I've asked about this and never found a direct way -- but using the Browser
control, you can browse right inside Access, which might make the transfer
process easier. Also, Drew has a cool API that forces an Access form to
"stay on top" even while you're in a browser -- which makes it easier to cut
and paste from the web page directly into your folder -- works well if
you're just gleaning small, infrequent pieces of data. 

Susan H. 

The client asks: Can information in a table (Name, Address, City, etc) on a
webpage be fed (coded) automatically straight into Access 2k?  

I said, 'I don't think so.' But perhaps it is possible. Anyone any
experience, please?




From dejpolsys at hotmail.com  Tue Jun 14 09:08:40 2005
From: dejpolsys at hotmail.com (William Hindman)
Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2005 10:08:40 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Australia - find nearest location
References: <20050614132543.ULNQ13045.ibm69aec.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>
Message-ID: <BAY103-DAV55B8F8EB640D43638F4A8AEF30@phx.gbl>

..move to civilization? :)

William
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Susan Harkins" <ssharkins at bellsouth.net>
To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'" 
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2005 9:25 AM
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Australia - find nearest location


> FWIW, list mail has been bad all week for me -- not just accessd, but all 
> of
> the lists I'm on -- I see responses long before the originals -- sometimes
> as long as an entire day. Also, my own postings are taking forever to show
> up.
>
> I don't think there's anything we can really do about it, except wait for 
> it
> to work itself out.
>
> Susan H.
>
> What's happening? I posted this last week - and it just appeared on the 
> list
> now....
>
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From ssharkins at bellsouth.net  Tue Jun 14 09:14:55 2005
From: ssharkins at bellsouth.net (Susan Harkins)
Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2005 10:14:55 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Australia - find nearest location
In-Reply-To: <BAY103-DAV55B8F8EB640D43638F4A8AEF30@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <20050614141559.OQHC5167.ibm59aec.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>

Hmmmm... William, you could be talking to Kath or me. :) 

Susan H. 

..move to civilization? :)




From reuben at gfconsultants.com  Tue Jun 14 09:26:57 2005
From: reuben at gfconsultants.com (Reuben Cummings)
Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2005 09:26:57 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Updating from Text to Number data type
In-Reply-To: <1FF4D9105232EB4DA1901BB7D175877E03F706@s003.wolds.summitmedia.co.uk>
Message-ID: <JKEJKMLAODCACEAIJLPAEEJODCAA.reuben@gfconsultants.com>

I've always been able to append or update records with text and change to a
number at the same time.  In fact, I did a bunch last week.

Are you sure all the ID's will actually convert to numbers?  Or the number
type is correct for the incoming data.

What is A2K telling you?

Reuben Cummings
GFC, LLC
phone: 812.523.1017
email: reuben at gfconsultants.com


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Paul Rodgers
Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2005 8:57 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Updating from Text to Number data type


I'm changing a one-table db over to a relational db.  I have retained old
fields with data so I can update the new look-up fields quickly.
For example, Hostel records into UnitID via an update query to save doing
hundreds by hand.

Only ... UnitID becomes a Number data type, and Access2K won't let the data
be moved across.

Be most grateful for a nod in the right direction.

All the best
paul

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From Paul.Rogers at SummitMedia.co.uk  Tue Jun 14 10:38:17 2005
From: Paul.Rogers at SummitMedia.co.uk (Paul Rodgers)
Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2005 16:38:17 +0100
Subject: [AccessD] Web page to Access
Message-ID: <1FF4D9105232EB4DA1901BB7D175877E03F708@s003.wolds.summitmedia.co.uk>

Thanks for the direction, Susan. Will explore that way. Cheers
paul

-----Original Message-----
From: Susan Harkins [mailto:ssharkins at bellsouth.net]
Sent: 14 June 2005 15:03
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Web page to Access


I've asked about this and never found a direct way -- but using the Browser
control, you can browse right inside Access, which might make the transfer
process easier. Also, Drew has a cool API that forces an Access form to
"stay on top" even while you're in a browser -- which makes it easier to cut
and paste from the web page directly into your folder -- works well if
you're just gleaning small, infrequent pieces of data. 

Susan H. 

The client asks: Can information in a table (Name, Address, City, etc) on a
webpage be fed (coded) automatically straight into Access 2k?  

I said, 'I don't think so.' But perhaps it is possible. Anyone any
experience, please?


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From martyconnelly at shaw.ca  Tue Jun 14 12:01:10 2005
From: martyconnelly at shaw.ca (MartyConnelly)
Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2005 10:01:10 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Web page to Access
References: <1FF4D9105232EB4DA1901BB7D175877E03F707@s003.wolds.summitmedia.co.uk>
Message-ID: <42AF0D56.2010205@shaw.ca>

It can be done by screen scraping via xmlhttp request object, winhhtp or 
wininet.
Essentially you send a http post command like 
www.somesite.com?table=A&recordrange=100
It then returns a text string which is a copy of the html screen
You then parse the returned html for the values desired.
Really easy if html is xhtml compliant (ha ha rarely true) you can then 
use xslt to parse out values
Drawbacks if html page format changes (common) you may have rewrite 
parser code.
also some sites may do page redirects for security to stop this type of 
scraping or have hidden the asp source.
Some of the bigger or more technically adept companies may provide this 
data as a web service.
Needs some knowledge of html forms to get it to work.You may have to 
figure out button code
on original html source of the request page.

If you don't have a formal data sharing agreement with the company, I 
wouldn't bet the farm on it.
for a whole variety of reasons.

I know one VP of  an airline in Canada went to jail or was severely 
fined for screenscraping a competitors route and load info
from an internal website. He ummm borrowed a password from an 
ex-employee of the competitor and then hit the webpage thousands
of time via code using this method, they sort of noticed the spike of 
hits in the middle of the night.

Here is some sample code that works off a webservice for limited US 
Canada address testing.
See here for info.
http://ws.cdyne.com/psaddress/addresslookup.asmx/
You need a purchased license key other than 0  for a large volume.

To use this code elsewhere
You would just change oXMLHTTP.send string to whatever parameters comes 
behind "?"
and then read or dump returned string to a file with the returned html 
text in oXMLHTTP.responseText
and then parse text string for your values.

This site returns xml rather than straight text so easier to parse with 
DOM or XSLT or XPath query.

Sub test()
Dim strAddress As String
strAddress = AddrCorrect("One Microsoft Way", "Redmond", "WA", 
"98052-6399", "0")
MsgBox strAddress
strAddress = AddrCorrect("1 Microsoft Way", "Redmond", "WA", 
"98052-6399", "0")
MsgBox strAddress
strAddress = AddrCorrect("One Lake St", "Upper Saddle River", "NJ", 
"07458", "0")
MsgBox strAddress
strAddress = AddrCorrect("", "Redmond", "WA", "", "0")
MsgBox strAddress
strAddress = AddrCorrect("417 Fifth Ave", "New York", "NY", "10016", "0")
'more than 1 zip code
MsgBox strAddress
strAddress = AddrCorrect("2400 East Bayshore Road", "Palo Alto", "CA", 
"94303", "0")
MsgBox strAddress
Debug.Print strAddress
End Sub
Public Function AddrCorrect(ByRef address As String, ByRef city As 
String, ByRef state As String, ByRef zip As String, Optional LicenseKey 
As String) As String
  'Dim oXMLHTTP As MSXML2.ServerXMLHTTP
  Dim oXMLHTTP As Object
 
  ' Call the web service to get an XML document
   Set oXMLHTTP = CreateObject("Msxml2.ServerXMLHTTP")
  ' Set oXMLHTTP = New MSXML2.ServerXMLHTTP
  oXMLHTTP.Open "POST", _
                
"http://ws.cdyne.com/psaddress/addresslookup.asmx/CheckAddress", _
                False
  oXMLHTTP.setRequestHeader "Content-Type", _
                            "application/x-www-form-urlencoded"
  oXMLHTTP.send "AddressLine=" & URLEncode(address) & "&ZipCode=" & 
URLEncode(zip) & "&City=" & URLEncode(city) & "&StateAbbrev=" & 
URLEncode(state) & "&LicenseKey=" & URLEncode(LicenseKey)
 
  If oXMLHTTP.status <> 200 Then
    MsgBox "Service Unavailable. Try again later"
    Set oXMLHTTP = Nothing

    Exit Function
  End If
  'Dim oDOM As Object
  ' doesn't work why Dim oDOM As MSXML2.DOMDocument50
  Dim oDOM As MSXML2.DOMDocument40
  Set oDOM = oXMLHTTP.responseXML
   'Debug.Print oDOM.xml
  Dim oNL As Object
  Dim oCN As Object
  Dim oCC As Object
  Set oNL = oDOM.getElementsByTagName("Address")
  For Each oCN In oNL
    For Each oCC In oCN.childNodes
        Select Case LCase(oCC.nodeName)
            Case "serviceerror"
                If CBool(oCC.Text) = True Then
                    AddrCorrect = "Service Error.  Try again Later"
                    GoTo leaveit
                End If
            Case "addresserror"
                If CBool(oCC.Text) = True Then
                    AddrCorrect = "Address uncorrectable."
                     Debug.Print oDOM.xml
                    GoTo leaveit
                End If
            Case "servicecurrentlyunavailable"
                If CBool(oCC.Text) = True Then
                    AddrCorrect = "Service Unavailable.  Try again Later"
                    GoTo leaveit
                End If
            Case "addressfoundbemorespecific"
                If CBool(oCC.Text) = True Then
                    AddrCorrect = "Address Found.  Be more Specific."
                    GoTo leaveit
                End If
            Case "deliveryaddress"
                address = oCC.Text
            Case "city"
                city = oCC.Text
            Case "stateabbrev"
                state = oCC.Text
            Case "zipcode"
                zip = oCC.Text
        End Select
    Next
  Next
AddrCorrect = "OK" ' Address corrected
  
 
leaveit:
  Set oCC = Nothing
  Set oCN = Nothing
  Set oNL = Nothing
  Set oDOM = Nothing
  Set oXMLHTTP = Nothing
 

End Function


Public Function URLEncode(inS As String) As String
  Dim i As Long
  Dim inC, outC As String
  For i = 1 To Len(inS)
    inC = Mid(inS, i, 1)
    Select Case inC
      Case " "
       outC = "+"
      Case "&"
       outC = "%38"
      Case "!" To "~"
       outC = inC
      Case Else
       outC = "%" + Right("00" + Hex(Asc(inC)), 2)
    End Select
    URLEncode = URLEncode + outC
  Next i
End Function



Paul Rodgers wrote:

>The client asks: Can information in a table (Name, Address, City, etc) on a
>webpage be fed (coded) automatically straight into Access 2k?  
>
>I said, 'I don't think so.' But perhaps it is possible. Anyone any
>experience, please?
>
>All the best
>paul 
>
>  
>

-- 
Marty Connelly
Victoria, B.C.
Canada





From dejpolsys at hotmail.com  Tue Jun 14 12:31:44 2005
From: dejpolsys at hotmail.com (William Hindman)
Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2005 13:31:44 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Australia - find nearest location
References: <20050614141559.OQHC5167.ibm59aec.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>
Message-ID: <BAY103-DAV764342F08137050D72560AEF30@phx.gbl>

..no, no, no ...Kath lives in Australia ...you live in the outback :)

William
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Susan Harkins" <ssharkins at bellsouth.net>
To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'" 
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2005 10:14 AM
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Australia - find nearest location


> Hmmmm... William, you could be talking to Kath or me. :)
>
> Susan H.
>
> ..move to civilization? :)
>
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From martyconnelly at shaw.ca  Tue Jun 14 14:54:58 2005
From: martyconnelly at shaw.ca (MartyConnelly)
Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2005 12:54:58 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Detecting Database Connection Type?
References: <20050614003805.CF92C4154D@mail01.powweb.com>
Message-ID: <42AF3612.9020600@shaw.ca>

You can try Win32_NetworkAdapter and Win32_NetworkAdapterConfiguration to
get information about the network adapter. Also, you can obtain the
information about what kind of connection (such as VPN, PPPoE..etc) is 
using
in the remote PC from these two classes.
You can have both wireless and lan connection made at same time.
but you can set opening precedence from Network Control Panel advanced 
options.
This code might tell you if wireless or Lan connection, haven't got 
wireless one to test.
You can code to disable one of the Nics via Shell namespace.

also this DOS command might tell you something
netsh interface show interface > c:\temp\netsh.txt

Sub testnics()
'this code takes several seconds to run initially
Dim NICA As Object
Dim Nic As Variant
Dim lngCount As Long
Dim StrNic As String
Dim StrIP As String
Dim i As Long
Set NICA = 
GetObject("winmgmts:").InstancesOf("Win32_NetworkAdapterConfiguration")

For Each Nic In NICA
    Debug.Print "============================"
     StrNic = Nic.Description 'type of NIC
      Debug.Print StrNic
     If Nic.IPEnabled Then
        lngCount = UBound(Nic.IPAddress)
        'For i = 0 To lngCount
                StrIP = vbTab & Nic.IPAddress(0)  'array
                If StrIP <> "" Then
                        Debug.Print "IP " & StrIP & " MAC address " & 
Nic.MACAddress
                        Debug.Print "DNS Name " & Nic.DNSHostName

                End If
       ' Next
     End If
     Debug.Print vbNewLine
Next

Robert Gracie wrote:

>Michael,
> The problem is a little deeper that that. We have several laptop users,
>each with wireless capabilities that automatically connect to the LAN. I
>have instructed them, (sigh) time and time again, that they must plug into
>the network, via a LAN jack before logging in the program. I'm at the point
>now where I need to come up with a solution that works to prevent a wireless
>connection to this one program. All laptop users are running Win XP.
>
>I sure hope there is a "Coded" solution, as I don't want to convert this
>program to SQL....
>
>I hope this helps...
>
>Robert
>
> 
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Michael R Mattys
>Sent: Monday, June 13, 2005 8:16 PM
>To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
>Subject: Re: [AccessD] Detecting Database Connection Type?
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Robert Gracie" <Robert at servicexp.com>
>To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'"
><accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
>Sent: Monday, June 13, 2005 7:56 PM
>Subject: [AccessD] Detecting Database Connection Type?
>
>
>  
>
>> How can one check the type of connection to the back end data, making
>>    
>>
>sure
>  
>
>>the connection is not wireless?
>>    
>>
>
>Robert,
>
>What prompted your question?
>Is it not simply a matter of connection exists verus connection does not
>exist?
>
>----
>
>Michael R. Mattys
>Mattys MapLib for Microsoft MapPoint
>http://www.mattysconsulting.com
>
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>  
>

-- 
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Victoria, B.C.
Canada





From pedro at plex.nl  Tue Jun 14 15:56:14 2005
From: pedro at plex.nl (Pedro Janssen)
Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2005 22:56:14 +0200
Subject: [AccessD] invalid number of arguments
References: <002a01c56f98$c62e6a90$fac581d5@pedro><017001c56fa4$4d7685e0$0202a8c0@default><001901c57015$3ddf5dc0$fac581d5@pedro><00c101c57019$b79955e0$0202a8c0@default><002301c5704b$9b1b4180$fac581d5@pedro>
	<00be01c5704f$e33b0370$0202a8c0@default>
Message-ID: <007901c57128$6b131390$fac581d5@pedro>

Hello Michael,

no the error then still exists.

Pedro Janssen


----- Original Message -----
From: "Michael R Mattys" <mmattys at rochester.rr.com>
To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving"
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Monday, June 13, 2005 9:41 PM
Subject: Re: [AccessD] invalid number of arguments


> Pedro,
>
> Will the error go away if you set a reference to DAO 3.6
> and then put Dim db As DAO.Database?
> ----
>
> Michael R. Mattys
> Mattys MapLib for Microsoft MapPoint
> http://www.mattysconsulting.com
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Pedro Janssen" <pedro at plex.nl>
> To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving"
> <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
> Sent: Monday, June 13, 2005 3:10 PM
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] invalid number of arguments
>
>
> > Thanks for this code Michael,
> >
> > but i need to solve the invalid argument error anyway, because i have
> other
> > codes with the same problem.
> >
> > Pedro Janssen
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Michael R Mattys" <mmattys at rochester.rr.com>
> > To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving"
> > <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
> > Sent: Monday, June 13, 2005 3:13 PM
> > Subject: Re: [AccessD] invalid number of arguments
> >
> >
> > > Pedro,
> > >
> > > Sorry. This is how I remove linked tables:
> > > To make it so that you remove only specific tables
> > > you modify it so that you end up with Neal's function.
> > >
> > > Function RemoveLinkedTbls()
> > >     Dim db As DAO.Database, tdf As DAO.TableDef
> > >     Set db = CurrentDb
> > >     For Each tdf In db.TableDefs
> > >         If tdf.Connect <> "" Then
> > >             DoCmd.DeleteObject acTable, tdf.Name
> > >         End If
> > >     Next
> > >     Set db = Nothing
> > > End Function
> > > ----
> > >
> > > Michael R. Mattys
> > > Mattys MapLib for Microsoft MapPoint
> > > http://www.mattysconsulting.com
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Pedro Janssen" <pedro at plex.nl>
> > > To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving"
> > > <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
> > > Sent: Monday, June 13, 2005 8:41 AM
> > > Subject: Re: [AccessD] invalid number of arguments
> > >
> > >
> > > > Hello Michael,
> > > >
> > > > when using db.TableDefs(strTableName).Delete it gives an
> compile-error:
> > > > Can't find methode or member.
> > > >
> > > > Any other ideas.
> > > >
> > > > Pedro Janssen
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: "Michael R Mattys" <mmattys at rochester.rr.com>
> > > > To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving"
> > > > <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
> > > > Sent: Monday, June 13, 2005 1:13 AM
> > > > Subject: Re: [AccessD] invalid number of arguments
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > From: "Pedro Janssen" <pedro at plex.nl>
> > > > > To: <AccessD at databaseadvisors.com>
> > > > > Sent: Sunday, June 12, 2005 5:50 PM
> > > > > Subject: [AccessD] invalid number of arguments
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Hello Group,
> > > > >
> > > > > i am using a function that Neil Kling provided me in the past.
> > > > > When running it from an expression i get an error:
> > > > >
> > > > > Invalid number of arguments.
> > > > >
> > > > > Who can help me with this
> > > > >
> > > > > ------
> > > > >
> > > > > Pedro,
> > > > >
> > > > > It should be
> > > > >
> > > > > db.TableDefs(strTableName).Delete
> > > > >
> > > > > ----
> > > > >
> > > > > Michael R. Mattys
> > > > > Mattys MapLib for Microsoft MapPoint
> > > > > http://www.mattysconsulting.com
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From pedro at plex.nl  Tue Jun 14 16:26:37 2005
From: pedro at plex.nl (Pedro Janssen)
Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2005 23:26:37 +0200
Subject: [AccessD] invalid number of arguments
References: <30BC111F638EB54082001A7E7282FE4107F3D6@elmo.co.montgomery.ny.us>
Message-ID: <007a01c57128$6b8d73b0$fac581d5@pedro>

Indeed i am not passing in anything, now i understand why the error occurs.

Is there no other way to work arround this.

Pedro Janssen



----- Original Message -----
From: "Neal Kling" <nkling at co.montgomery.ny.us>
To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving"
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Monday, June 13, 2005 9:51 PM
Subject: RE: [AccessD] invalid number of arguments


> I believe he's passing nothing, which of course results in the missing
parameter. Perhaps you can explain this better than I.
>
> Neal
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Mike & Doris
> Manning
> Sent: Monday, June 13, 2005 3:46 PM
> To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
> Subject: RE: [AccessD] invalid number of arguments
>
>
> What are you passing in as the value of "tblDebiteurAlgemeen"?
>
> Doris Manning
> Database Administrator
> Hargrove Inc.
> www.hargroveinc.com
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Pedro Janssen
> Sent: Monday, June 13, 2005 3:15 PM
> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] invalid number of arguments
>
>
> Hello Neal,
>
> i now have tried:
>
> Function DeleteTableLink(tblDebiteurAlgemeen As String) As Boolean On
Error
> GoTo Err_DeleteTableLink
>   Dim db As Database
>
>   Set db = DBEngine(0)(0)
>   db.TableDefs.Delete (tblDebiteurAlgemeen)
>   db.TableDefs.Refresh
>
>   DeleteTableLink = True
>
> Exit_DeleteTableLink:
>
> etc.etc.etc
>
>
> but i still have the error.
>
> Anyone any ideas.
>
> Pedro
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Neal Kling" <nkling at co.montgomery.ny.us>
> To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving"
> <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
> Sent: Monday, June 13, 2005 2:52 PM
> Subject: RE: [AccessD] invalid number of arguments
>
>
> > I see you're setting the table variable right in the function. But the
> function it's self is still expecting you to pass a table name. I suspect
> this may be where you are having a problem. Either redeclare the function
> without the strTableName parameter, or pass it the table name. In other
> words instead of setting strTableName in the function, call the function
> like this:
> >
> > DeleteTableLink "tblDebiteurAlgemeen"
> >
> > Don't forget to comment out the line
> > strTableName = "tblDebiteurAlgemeen"
> >
> > Neal
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> > [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Pedro
> > Janssen
> > Sent: Sunday, June 12, 2005 5:51 PM
> > To: AccessD at databaseadvisors.com
> > Subject: [AccessD] invalid number of arguments
> >
> >
> > Hello Group,
> >
> > i am using a function that Neil Kling provided me in the past. When
> > running it from an expression i get an error:
> >
> > Invalid number of arguments.
> >
> > Who can help me with this
> >
> > Pedro Janssen
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Function DeleteTableLink(strTableName As String) As Boolean On Error
> > GoTo Err_DeleteTableLink
> >   Dim db As Database
> >
> >   strTableName = "tblDebiteurAlgemeen"
> >
> >   Set db = DBEngine(0)(0)
> >   db.TableDefs.Delete strTableName
> >   db.TableDefs.Refresh
> >
> >   DeleteTableLink = True
> >
> > Exit_DeleteTableLink:
> > Exit Function
> >
> > Err_DeleteTableLink:
> >   Select Case Err
> >   Case 0    'insert Errors you wish to ignore here
> >     Resume Next
> >   Case 3265      'Item doesn't exist in collection
> >         Resume Next
> >   Case Else 'All other errors will trap
> >     Beep
> >     MsgBox Err.Number & "; " & Err.Description, , "Error in function
> basObjectHandlers.DeleteTableLink"
> >   Resume Exit_DeleteTableLink
> >   End Select
> >   Resume 0  'FOR TROUBLESHOOTING
> > End Function
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From pedro at plex.nl  Tue Jun 14 16:30:19 2005
From: pedro at plex.nl (Pedro Janssen)
Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2005 23:30:19 +0200
Subject: [AccessD] invalid number of arguments
References: <30BC111F638EB54082001A7E7282FE41114D45@elmo.co.montgomery.ny.us>
Message-ID: <007b01c57128$6c07acc0$fac581d5@pedro>

Hello Neal,

WQhen using:

""Function DeleteTableLink() as Boolean

Then you would need to specify which table in the function like this

db.TableDefs.Delete "tblDebiteurAlgemeen"       ""


It  not only removes the link, but also deletes the table.

What i would like is to remove the link, so that the table can be used.

Can you explain, where and how to use:  DeleteTableLink
"tblDebiteurAlgemeen" in the code.
Maybe i misunderstand what you mean because when using this after Function,
i get Compiling errors, because the code expects instruction ends.



Let me explain a little more why i need to delete the link:
I have a linked table.
I need a copy of that table (structure and data) , without the copy is
beeing linked to.
After that i need to adjust, by code some field names.

Who has done this before and can help me with this??

Pedro Janssen



----- Original Message -----
From: "Neal Kling" <nkling at co.montgomery.ny.us>
To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving"
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Monday, June 13, 2005 9:49 PM
Subject: RE: [AccessD] invalid number of arguments


> Pedro,
>
> This line
>
> Function DeleteTableLink(tblDebiteurAlgemeen As String) As Boolean
>
> is telling the function that it is going to expect you to pass it a string
parameter of the name of the table you want to delete.
>
> Where you are calling the function it would have to done like this:
> DeleteTableLink "tblDebiteurAlgemeen"
>
> That way the function knows which table to delete. If this is causing you
too many problems you can get rid of the requirement for that parameter and
declare the function like this:
>
> Function DeleteTableLink() as Boolean
>
> Then you would need to specify which table in the function like this
>
> db.TableDefs.Delete "tblDebiteurAlgemeen"
>
> The problem is now you have a function that will only do one thing. It
won't be reusable.
>
> Neal
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Pedro Janssen
> Sent: Monday, June 13, 2005 3:15 PM
> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] invalid number of arguments
>
>
> Hello Neal,
>
> i now have tried:
>
> Function DeleteTableLink(tblDebiteurAlgemeen As String) As Boolean
> On Error GoTo Err_DeleteTableLink
>   Dim db As Database
>
>   Set db = DBEngine(0)(0)
>   db.TableDefs.Delete (tblDebiteurAlgemeen)
>   db.TableDefs.Refresh
>
>   DeleteTableLink = True
>
> Exit_DeleteTableLink:
>
> etc.etc.etc
>
>
> but i still have the error.
>
> Anyone any ideas.
>
> Pedro
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Neal Kling" <nkling at co.montgomery.ny.us>
> To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving"
> <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
> Sent: Monday, June 13, 2005 2:52 PM
> Subject: RE: [AccessD] invalid number of arguments
>
>
> > I see you're setting the table variable right in the function. But the
> function it's self is still expecting you to pass a table name. I suspect
> this may be where you are having a problem. Either redeclare the function
> without the strTableName parameter, or pass it the table name. In other
> words instead of setting strTableName in the function, call the function
> like this:
> >
> > DeleteTableLink "tblDebiteurAlgemeen"
> >
> > Don't forget to comment out the line
> > strTableName = "tblDebiteurAlgemeen"
> >
> > Neal
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> > [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Pedro Janssen
> > Sent: Sunday, June 12, 2005 5:51 PM
> > To: AccessD at databaseadvisors.com
> > Subject: [AccessD] invalid number of arguments
> >
> >
> > Hello Group,
> >
> > i am using a function that Neil Kling provided me in the past.
> > When running it from an expression i get an error:
> >
> > Invalid number of arguments.
> >
> > Who can help me with this
> >
> > Pedro Janssen
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Function DeleteTableLink(strTableName As String) As Boolean
> > On Error GoTo Err_DeleteTableLink
> >   Dim db As Database
> >
> >   strTableName = "tblDebiteurAlgemeen"
> >
> >   Set db = DBEngine(0)(0)
> >   db.TableDefs.Delete strTableName
> >   db.TableDefs.Refresh
> >
> >   DeleteTableLink = True
> >
> > Exit_DeleteTableLink:
> > Exit Function
> >
> > Err_DeleteTableLink:
> >   Select Case Err
> >   Case 0    'insert Errors you wish to ignore here
> >     Resume Next
> >   Case 3265      'Item doesn't exist in collection
> >         Resume Next
> >   Case Else 'All other errors will trap
> >     Beep
> >     MsgBox Err.Number & "; " & Err.Description, , "Error in function
> basObjectHandlers.DeleteTableLink"
> >   Resume Exit_DeleteTableLink
> >   End Select
> >   Resume 0  'FOR TROUBLESHOOTING
> > End Function
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From D.Dick at uws.edu.au  Tue Jun 14 23:31:11 2005
From: D.Dick at uws.edu.au (Darren Dick)
Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2005 14:31:11 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] A2003:Connection Method failing (SOLVED)
Message-ID: <2FDE83AF1A69C84796CBD13788DDA8833FF3C8@BONHAM.AD.UWS.EDU.AU>

Never Mind
Updated to latest MDAC and that sorted it 
See ya

DD
 

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Darren Dick
Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2005 12:28 PM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [AccessD] A2003:Connection Method failing

Hello all
 
(Cross Posted to Sue and Dmitri's list)
 
The code below used to work - now it doesn't Our enterprise has moved to
Exchange - does that matter?
 
The error is
ERR.Number =  -2147024769
ERR.Description = Method 'Connection' of object '_CurrentProject' failed

Any suggestions?
 
Code snip below
 

    Dim rs As Object
    Dim con As Object

    
    Dim objOutlook As Outlook.Application
    Dim objAppt As Outlook.AppointmentItem
    Dim objRecurPattern As Outlook.RecurrencePattern
        
    Set objOutlook = CreateObject("Outlook.Application")
    Set objAppt = objOutlook.CreateItem(olAppointmentItem)
    
    Set rs = CreateObject("ADODB.Recordset")
    Set con = Application.CurrentProject.Connection
'<=============Error here
 
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From marvkin at hotmail.com  Wed Jun 15 01:25:32 2005
From: marvkin at hotmail.com (marvin hunkin)
Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2005 16:25:32 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] ms access 2003 query
Message-ID: <BAY102-F288F0228CF80914D081583ABF20@phx.gbl>

Hi.
some one mentioned on the list a while back, how to get round of activating 
the advanced wizards using the tool box in ms access 2003.
how to get round, having no short cut keys, and no way to activate the say 
command button wizard in form or report design of a form or report in ms 
access 2003.
if any one got any tips on how to get round this problem, without dragging 
and dropping the mouse, and tried the jaws drag and drop feature, but still 
would not activate it without sighted assistance.
did ask freedom scientific, but had no plans to fix this problem, and did 
report it to tech support over 12 months ago before jaws 6.0 came out last 
year.
so if any one has got me the answer i am looking for, then let me know.
cheers Marvin.




From Paul.Rogers at SummitMedia.co.uk  Wed Jun 15 03:11:02 2005
From: Paul.Rogers at SummitMedia.co.uk (Paul Rodgers)
Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2005 09:11:02 +0100
Subject: [AccessD] Web page to Access
Message-ID: <1FF4D9105232EB4DA1901BB7D175877E03F70A@s003.wolds.summitmedia.co.uk>

That's amazing, Marty. Thanks very much for the guidance and for the code
etc. Much obliged to you.
Cheers paul 

-----Original Message-----
From: MartyConnelly [mailto:martyconnelly at shaw.ca]
Sent: 14 June 2005 18:01
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Web page to Access


It can be done by screen scraping via xmlhttp request object, winhhtp or 
wininet.
Essentially you send a http post command like 
www.somesite.com?table=A&recordrange=100
It then returns a text string which is a copy of the html screen
You then parse the returned html for the values desired.
Really easy if html is xhtml compliant (ha ha rarely true) you can then 
use xslt to parse out values
Drawbacks if html page format changes (common) you may have rewrite 
parser code.
also some sites may do page redirects for security to stop this type of 
scraping or have hidden the asp source.
Some of the bigger or more technically adept companies may provide this 
data as a web service.
Needs some knowledge of html forms to get it to work.You may have to 
figure out button code
on original html source of the request page.

If you don't have a formal data sharing agreement with the company, I 
wouldn't bet the farm on it.
for a whole variety of reasons.

I know one VP of  an airline in Canada went to jail or was severely 
fined for screenscraping a competitors route and load info
from an internal website. He ummm borrowed a password from an 
ex-employee of the competitor and then hit the webpage thousands
of time via code using this method, they sort of noticed the spike of 
hits in the middle of the night.

Here is some sample code that works off a webservice for limited US 
Canada address testing.
See here for info.
http://ws.cdyne.com/psaddress/addresslookup.asmx/
You need a purchased license key other than 0  for a large volume.

To use this code elsewhere
You would just change oXMLHTTP.send string to whatever parameters comes 
behind "?"
and then read or dump returned string to a file with the returned html 
text in oXMLHTTP.responseText
and then parse text string for your values.

This site returns xml rather than straight text so easier to parse with 
DOM or XSLT or XPath query.

Sub test()
Dim strAddress As String
strAddress = AddrCorrect("One Microsoft Way", "Redmond", "WA", 
"98052-6399", "0")
MsgBox strAddress
strAddress = AddrCorrect("1 Microsoft Way", "Redmond", "WA", 
"98052-6399", "0")
MsgBox strAddress
strAddress = AddrCorrect("One Lake St", "Upper Saddle River", "NJ", 
"07458", "0")
MsgBox strAddress
strAddress = AddrCorrect("", "Redmond", "WA", "", "0")
MsgBox strAddress
strAddress = AddrCorrect("417 Fifth Ave", "New York", "NY", "10016", "0")
'more than 1 zip code
MsgBox strAddress
strAddress = AddrCorrect("2400 East Bayshore Road", "Palo Alto", "CA", 
"94303", "0")
MsgBox strAddress
Debug.Print strAddress
End Sub
Public Function AddrCorrect(ByRef address As String, ByRef city As 
String, ByRef state As String, ByRef zip As String, Optional LicenseKey 
As String) As String
  'Dim oXMLHTTP As MSXML2.ServerXMLHTTP
  Dim oXMLHTTP As Object
 
  ' Call the web service to get an XML document
   Set oXMLHTTP = CreateObject("Msxml2.ServerXMLHTTP")
  ' Set oXMLHTTP = New MSXML2.ServerXMLHTTP
  oXMLHTTP.Open "POST", _
                
"http://ws.cdyne.com/psaddress/addresslookup.asmx/CheckAddress", _
                False
  oXMLHTTP.setRequestHeader "Content-Type", _
                            "application/x-www-form-urlencoded"
  oXMLHTTP.send "AddressLine=" & URLEncode(address) & "&ZipCode=" & 
URLEncode(zip) & "&City=" & URLEncode(city) & "&StateAbbrev=" & 
URLEncode(state) & "&LicenseKey=" & URLEncode(LicenseKey)
 
  If oXMLHTTP.status <> 200 Then
    MsgBox "Service Unavailable. Try again later"
    Set oXMLHTTP = Nothing

    Exit Function
  End If
  'Dim oDOM As Object
  ' doesn't work why Dim oDOM As MSXML2.DOMDocument50
  Dim oDOM As MSXML2.DOMDocument40
  Set oDOM = oXMLHTTP.responseXML
   'Debug.Print oDOM.xml
  Dim oNL As Object
  Dim oCN As Object
  Dim oCC As Object
  Set oNL = oDOM.getElementsByTagName("Address")
  For Each oCN In oNL
    For Each oCC In oCN.childNodes
        Select Case LCase(oCC.nodeName)
            Case "serviceerror"
                If CBool(oCC.Text) = True Then
                    AddrCorrect = "Service Error.  Try again Later"
                    GoTo leaveit
                End If
            Case "addresserror"
                If CBool(oCC.Text) = True Then
                    AddrCorrect = "Address uncorrectable."
                     Debug.Print oDOM.xml
                    GoTo leaveit
                End If
            Case "servicecurrentlyunavailable"
                If CBool(oCC.Text) = True Then
                    AddrCorrect = "Service Unavailable.  Try again Later"
                    GoTo leaveit
                End If
            Case "addressfoundbemorespecific"
                If CBool(oCC.Text) = True Then
                    AddrCorrect = "Address Found.  Be more Specific."
                    GoTo leaveit
                End If
            Case "deliveryaddress"
                address = oCC.Text
            Case "city"
                city = oCC.Text
            Case "stateabbrev"
                state = oCC.Text
            Case "zipcode"
                zip = oCC.Text
        End Select
    Next
  Next
AddrCorrect = "OK" ' Address corrected
  
 
leaveit:
  Set oCC = Nothing
  Set oCN = Nothing
  Set oNL = Nothing
  Set oDOM = Nothing
  Set oXMLHTTP = Nothing
 

End Function


Public Function URLEncode(inS As String) As String
  Dim i As Long
  Dim inC, outC As String
  For i = 1 To Len(inS)
    inC = Mid(inS, i, 1)
    Select Case inC
      Case " "
       outC = "+"
      Case "&"
       outC = "%38"
      Case "!" To "~"
       outC = inC
      Case Else
       outC = "%" + Right("00" + Hex(Asc(inC)), 2)
    End Select
    URLEncode = URLEncode + outC
  Next i
End Function



Paul Rodgers wrote:

>The client asks: Can information in a table (Name, Address, City, etc) on a
>webpage be fed (coded) automatically straight into Access 2k?  
>
>I said, 'I don't think so.' But perhaps it is possible. Anyone any
>experience, please?
>
>All the best
>paul 
>
>  
>

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From Paul.Rogers at SummitMedia.co.uk  Wed Jun 15 03:32:04 2005
From: Paul.Rogers at SummitMedia.co.uk (Paul Rodgers)
Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2005 09:32:04 +0100
Subject: [AccessD] Updating from Text to Number data type
Message-ID: <1FF4D9105232EB4DA1901BB7D175877E03F70C@s003.wolds.summitmedia.co.uk>

Hi Reuben

You are right, but in this case the field is linked to a lookup table. To
make it 'easy', I have a field with the information I want to appear in the
new lookup field. 

The lookup field's data type is Number. The information's data type is text,
because it is text. 

It seems the only way is to update it all by hand because I can't change the
data types ... 

Many thanks
paul



-----Original Message-----
From: Reuben Cummings [mailto:reuben at gfconsultants.com]
Sent: 14 June 2005 15:27
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Updating from Text to Number data type


I've always been able to append or update records with text and change to a
number at the same time.  In fact, I did a bunch last week.

Are you sure all the ID's will actually convert to numbers?  Or the number
type is correct for the incoming data.

What is A2K telling you?

Reuben Cummings
GFC, LLC
phone: 812.523.1017
email: reuben at gfconsultants.com


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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Paul Rodgers
Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2005 8:57 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Updating from Text to Number data type


I'm changing a one-table db over to a relational db.  I have retained old
fields with data so I can update the new look-up fields quickly.
For example, Hostel records into UnitID via an update query to save doing
hundreds by hand.

Only ... UnitID becomes a Number data type, and Access2K won't let the data
be moved across.

Be most grateful for a nod in the right direction.

All the best
paul

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From artful at rogers.com  Wed Jun 15 06:08:02 2005
From: artful at rogers.com (Arthur Fuller)
Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2005 07:08:02 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Iterate through similarlnamed columns in a recordset
In-Reply-To: <s2a2d995.014@cactus.dk>
References: <s2a2d995.014@cactus.dk>
Message-ID: <42B00C12.6090004@rogers.com>

You have a table like this (let's not bring up normalisation)...

PK autonumber
Size1 long
Height1 long
Weight1 long

(The last three are repeated 3 times, so their last digits are 2, 3 and 4.)

Assume the required vars are declared and filled. rs = New
ADODB.RecordSet. etc.
I want to write a loop something like this:

For i = 1 to 4
    debug.print rs("Size"&i)
    etc.
Next

But I can't seem to get it right. I tried using eval() and various other
approaches. Ideas?

Arthur



From Gustav at cactus.dk  Wed Jun 15 06:49:18 2005
From: Gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2005 13:49:18 +0200
Subject: [AccessD] Iterate through similarlnamed columns in a
	recordset
Message-ID: <s2b031f5.069@cactus.dk>

Hi Arthur

Did you send this today? And the 11. June too?

/gustav

>>> artful at rogers.com 06/15 1:08 pm >>>
You have a table like this (let's not bring up normalisation)...

PK autonumber
Size1 long
Height1 long
Weight1 long

(The last three are repeated 3 times, so their last digits are 2, 3 and
4.)

Assume the required vars are declared and filled. rs = New
ADODB.RecordSet. etc.
I want to write a loop something like this:

For i = 1 to 4
    debug.print rs("Size"&i)
    etc.
Next

But I can't seem to get it right. I tried using eval() and various
other
approaches. Ideas?

Arthur

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From artful at rogers.com  Wed Jun 15 08:17:30 2005
From: artful at rogers.com (Arthur Fuller)
Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2005 09:17:30 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Iterate through similarlnamed columns in a	recordset
In-Reply-To: <s2b031f5.069@cactus.dk>
References: <s2b031f5.069@cactus.dk>
Message-ID: <42B02A6A.1080004@rogers.com>

Gustav Brock wrote:

>Hi Arthur
>
>Did you send this today? And the 11. June too?
>
>/gustav
>
>  
>
>>>>artful at rogers.com 06/15 1:08 pm >>>
>>>>        
>>>>
>You have a table like this (let's not bring up normalisation)...
>
>PK autonumber
>Size1 long
>Height1 long
>Weight1 long
>
>(The last three are repeated 3 times, so their last digits are 2, 3 and
>4.)
>
>Assume the required vars are declared and filled. rs = New
>ADODB.RecordSet. etc.
>I want to write a loop something like this:
>
>For i = 1 to 4
>    debug.print rs("Size"&i)
>    etc.
>Next
>
>But I can't seem to get it right. I tried using eval() and various
>other
>approaches. Ideas?
>
>Arthur
>
>  
>
I guess I did. Suddenly Thunderbird is screwing up on me big time. I may 
(gasp) return to Outlook.


From mmattys at rochester.rr.com  Wed Jun 15 08:49:39 2005
From: mmattys at rochester.rr.com (Michael R Mattys)
Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2005 09:49:39 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] invalid number of arguments
References: <30BC111F638EB54082001A7E7282FE41114D45@elmo.co.montgomery.ny.us>
	<007b01c57128$6c07acc0$fac581d5@pedro>
Message-ID: <00ba01c571b1$155f3bc0$0202a8c0@default>

----- Original Message -----
From: "Pedro Janssen" <pedro at plex.nl>
To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving"
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2005 5:30 PM
Subject: Re: [AccessD] invalid number of arguments
[Snip]

> Let me explain a little more why i need to delete the link:
> I have a linked table.
> I need a copy of that table (structure and data) , without the copy is
> beeing linked to.
> After that i need to adjust, by code some field names.
>
> Who has done this before and can help me with this??
[Snip]

Pedro,

I have done and can do what you're asking.

It may be that you only need to ALIAS fields from your
linked table in a query. Then again, you may have to delete
the link in order to manipulate fields in the external database.

Please explain exactly what you are going to do and
we'll see which option needs implementation.
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From Gustav at cactus.dk  Wed Jun 15 09:54:17 2005
From: Gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2005 16:54:17 +0200
Subject: [AccessD] Iterate through similarlnamed columns in
	a	recordset
Message-ID: <s2b05d56.080@cactus.dk>

Hi Arthur

I see. But did you find out?

/gustav

>>> artful at rogers.com 06/15 3:17 pm >>>
Gustav Brock wrote:

>Hi Arthur
>
>Did you send this today? And the 11. June too?
>
>/gustav
>
>  
>
>>>>artful at rogers.com 06/15 1:08 pm >>>
>>>>        
>>>>
>You have a table like this (let's not bring up normalisation)...
>
>PK autonumber
>Size1 long
>Height1 long
>Weight1 long
>
>(The last three are repeated 3 times, so their last digits are 2, 3
and
>4.)
>
>Assume the required vars are declared and filled. rs = New
>ADODB.RecordSet. etc.
>I want to write a loop something like this:
>
>For i = 1 to 4
>    debug.print rs("Size"&i)
>    etc.
>Next
>
>But I can't seem to get it right. I tried using eval() and various
>other
>approaches. Ideas?
>
>Arthur
>
>  
>
I guess I did. Suddenly Thunderbird is screwing up on me big time. I
may 
(gasp) return to Outlook.



From reuben at gfconsultants.com  Wed Jun 15 09:57:04 2005
From: reuben at gfconsultants.com (Reuben Cummings)
Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2005 09:57:04 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Updating from Text to Number data type
In-Reply-To: <1FF4D9105232EB4DA1901BB7D175877E03F70C@s003.wolds.summitmedia.co.uk>
Message-ID: <JKEJKMLAODCACEAIJLPAOEKNDCAA.reuben@gfconsultants.com>

I think you are saying that you have a field in one table with datatype
text.  It is being filled by a combo box using a table with datatype number.

Is that correct?

I'm sure it can be done (I've been doing a lot of this stuff lately due to
some new contracts we have).  Send me the tables (including any
relationships) offline and I'll check it out.

Reuben Cummings
GFC, LLC
phone: 812.523.1017
email: reuben at gfconsultants.com


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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Paul Rodgers
Sent: Wednesday, June 15, 2005 3:32 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Updating from Text to Number data type


Hi Reuben

You are right, but in this case the field is linked to a lookup table. To
make it 'easy', I have a field with the information I want to appear in the
new lookup field.

The lookup field's data type is Number. The information's data type is text,
because it is text.

It seems the only way is to update it all by hand because I can't change the
data types ...

Many thanks
paul



-----Original Message-----
From: Reuben Cummings [mailto:reuben at gfconsultants.com]
Sent: 14 June 2005 15:27
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Updating from Text to Number data type


I've always been able to append or update records with text and change to a
number at the same time.  In fact, I did a bunch last week.

Are you sure all the ID's will actually convert to numbers?  Or the number
type is correct for the incoming data.

What is A2K telling you?

Reuben Cummings
GFC, LLC
phone: 812.523.1017
email: reuben at gfconsultants.com


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Paul Rodgers
Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2005 8:57 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Updating from Text to Number data type


I'm changing a one-table db over to a relational db.  I have retained old
fields with data so I can update the new look-up fields quickly.
For example, Hostel records into UnitID via an update query to save doing
hundreds by hand.

Only ... UnitID becomes a Number data type, and Access2K won't let the data
be moved across.

Be most grateful for a nod in the right direction.

All the best
paul

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From fhtapia at gmail.com  Wed Jun 15 11:30:00 2005
From: fhtapia at gmail.com (Francisco Tapia)
Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2005 09:30:00 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] ms access 2003 query
In-Reply-To: <BAY102-F288F0228CF80914D081583ABF20@phx.gbl>
References: <BAY102-F288F0228CF80914D081583ABF20@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <b874372a05061509305b3ebf76@mail.gmail.com>

I did a quick search in my inbox for all the accessD mail that I've 
received, and found nothing in either the Access-L or AccessD list for 
"advanced wizards" I just received my copy of Access 2003 last week and it 
seems everything is fine w/ it except I must load jet 4sp8 in order for it 
to stop crying like a baby ;).

for me to do that I have to have the helpdesk "PUSH" out the upgrade to the 
clients as many people won't have the admin rights required for this.

On 6/14/05, marvin hunkin <marvkin at hotmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Hi.
> some one mentioned on the list a while back, how to get round of 
> activating
> the advanced wizards using the tool box in ms access 2003.
> how to get round, having no short cut keys, and no way to activate the say
> command button wizard in form or report design of a form or report in ms
> access 2003.
> if any one got any tips on how to get round this problem, without dragging
> and dropping the mouse, and tried the jaws drag and drop feature, but 
> still
> would not activate it without sighted assistance.
> did ask freedom scientific, but had no plans to fix this problem, and did
> report it to tech support over 12 months ago before jaws 6.0 came out last
> year.
> so if any one has got me the answer i am looking for, then let me know.
> cheers Marvin.
> 
> 
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From accessd at shaw.ca  Wed Jun 15 12:30:48 2005
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2005 10:30:48 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Iterate through similarlnamed columns in a recordset
In-Reply-To: <42B00C12.6090004@rogers.com>
Message-ID: <0II40031UZB9PW@l-daemon>

Hi Arthur:

 

Here is a piece of code that loops through a couple tables and all fields.

 

With rs1

 .MoveLast

 .MoveFirst

 Do While .EOF = False

  rs2.AddNew

  For i = 0 To .Fields.Count - 1

   rs2.Fields(i).Value = .Fields(i).Value

  Next

  rs2.Update

  .MoveNext

 Loop

End with

 

HTH

Jim

 

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Arthur Fuller
Sent: Wednesday, June 15, 2005 4:08 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: [AccessD] Iterate through similarlnamed columns in a recordset

 

You have a table like this (let's not bring up normalisation)...

 

PK autonumber

Size1 long

Height1 long

Weight1 long

 

(The last three are repeated 3 times, so their last digits are 2, 3 and 4.)

 

Assume the required vars are declared and filled. rs = New

ADODB.RecordSet. etc.

I want to write a loop something like this:

 

For i = 1 to 4

    debug.print rs("Size"&i)

    etc.

Next

 

But I can't seem to get it right. I tried using eval() and various other

approaches. Ideas?

 

Arthur

 

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From bchacc at san.rr.com  Wed Jun 15 12:39:25 2005
From: bchacc at san.rr.com (Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software)
Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2005 10:39:25 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Design View Increment
Message-ID: <018701c571d1$2c609d80$6801a8c0@HAL9004>

Dear List:

I use the control and arrow keys to move controls around on forms and reports because of the fine control your get that way.  In Access 2000 the increment (ctrl-Up Arrow, for instance) was very small. I recently moved to Access 2003 and the increment is very large.  I tries increasing the Grid X Grid Y values but it didn't help.  

Is there a setting that controls the increment?

MTIA,

Rocky Smolin
Beach Access Software
http://www.e-z-mrp.com
858-259-4334


From newsgrps at dalyn.co.nz  Wed Jun 15 12:55:40 2005
From: newsgrps at dalyn.co.nz (David Emerson)
Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2005 05:55:40 +1200
Subject: [AccessD] Design View Increment
In-Reply-To: <018701c571d1$2c609d80$6801a8c0@HAL9004>
References: <018701c571d1$2c609d80$6801a8c0@HAL9004>
Message-ID: <6.2.1.2.0.20050616055031.02b302d0@mail.dalyn.co.nz>

Rocky,

I don't have A2003 but have noticed funny behaviour in A2002 - sometimes 
holding the Ctrl key combination behaves as if the Snap To Grid option is 
checked in the format menu bar (ie with large increments).  Then when I 
check the Snap to Grid option, the Ctrl combination works with small 
increments and not larger ones. :-\

Regards

David Emerson
Dalyn Software Ltd
25 Cunliffe St, Churton Park
Wellington, New Zealand
Ph/Fax (04) 478-7456
Mobile 027-280-9348

At 16/06/2005, you wrote:
>Dear List:
>
>I use the control and arrow keys to move controls around on forms and 
>reports because of the fine control your get that way.  In Access 2000 the 
>increment (ctrl-Up Arrow, for instance) was very small. I recently moved 
>to Access 2003 and the increment is very large.  I tries increasing the 
>Grid X Grid Y values but it didn't help.
>
>Is there a setting that controls the increment?
>
>MTIA,
>
>Rocky Smolin
>Beach Access Software
>http://www.e-z-mrp.com
>858-259-4334
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From pedro at plex.nl  Wed Jun 15 16:05:36 2005
From: pedro at plex.nl (Pedro Janssen)
Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2005 23:05:36 +0200
Subject: [AccessD] invalid number of arguments
References: <30BC111F638EB54082001A7E7282FE41114D45@elmo.co.montgomery.ny.us><007b01c57128$6c07acc0$fac581d5@pedro>
	<00ba01c571b1$155f3bc0$0202a8c0@default>
Message-ID: <005001c571f0$06e703e0$fac581d5@pedro>

Hello Michael,

thanks for your help.
I will send you an Email tomorrow or friday which will give you some extra
details.

Pedro Janssen


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From: "Michael R Mattys" <mmattys at rochester.rr.com>
To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving"
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Sent: Wednesday, June 15, 2005 3:49 PM
Subject: Re: [AccessD] invalid number of arguments


> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Pedro Janssen" <pedro at plex.nl>
> To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving"
> <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2005 5:30 PM
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] invalid number of arguments
> [Snip]
>
> > Let me explain a little more why i need to delete the link:
> > I have a linked table.
> > I need a copy of that table (structure and data) , without the copy is
> > beeing linked to.
> > After that i need to adjust, by code some field names.
> >
> > Who has done this before and can help me with this??
> [Snip]
>
> Pedro,
>
> I have done and can do what you're asking.
>
> It may be that you only need to ALIAS fields from your
> linked table in a query. Then again, you may have to delete
> the link in order to manipulate fields in the external database.
>
> Please explain exactly what you are going to do and
> we'll see which option needs implementation.
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From KP at sdsonline.net  Wed Jun 15 19:50:32 2005
From: KP at sdsonline.net (Kath Pelletti)
Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2005 10:50:32 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] Australia - find nearest location
References: <20050614141559.OQHC5167.ibm59aec.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>
	<BAY103-DAV764342F08137050D72560AEF30@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <003d01c5720d$67331730$6601a8c0@user>

Not sure where Susan lives - but were not that civilised........
:)
Kath
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: William Hindman 
  To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving 
  Sent: Wednesday, June 15, 2005 3:31 AM
  Subject: Re: [AccessD] Australia - find nearest location


  ..no, no, no ...Kath lives in Australia ...you live in the outback :)

  William
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: "Susan Harkins" <ssharkins at bellsouth.net>
  To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'" 
  <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
  Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2005 10:14 AM
  Subject: RE: [AccessD] Australia - find nearest location


  > Hmmmm... William, you could be talking to Kath or me. :)
  >
  > Susan H.
  >
  > ..move to civilization? :)
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From KP at sdsonline.net  Wed Jun 15 19:50:50 2005
From: KP at sdsonline.net (Kath Pelletti)
Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2005 10:50:50 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] Australia - find nearest location
References: <20050614132543.ULNQ13045.ibm69aec.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>
Message-ID: <004b01c5720d$712f8c50$6601a8c0@user>

Yeah - me too.
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Susan Harkins 
  To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' 
  Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2005 11:25 PM
  Subject: RE: [AccessD] Australia - find nearest location


  FWIW, list mail has been bad all week for me -- not just accessd, but all of
  the lists I'm on -- I see responses long before the originals -- sometimes
  as long as an entire day. Also, my own postings are taking forever to show
  up. 

  I don't think there's anything we can really do about it, except wait for it
  to work itself out. 

  Susan H. 

  What's happening? I posted this last week - and it just appeared on the list
  now....

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From dejpolsys at hotmail.com  Wed Jun 15 20:13:47 2005
From: dejpolsys at hotmail.com (William Hindman)
Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2005 21:13:47 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Australia - find nearest location
References: <20050614141559.OQHC5167.ibm59aec.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE><BAY103-DAV764342F08137050D72560AEF30@phx.gbl>
	<003d01c5720d$67331730$6601a8c0@user>
Message-ID: <BAY103-DAV8D27BF374E6EB4824B897AEF50@phx.gbl>

..the wilds of Kentucky ...uncivilized by any standards :))))

William
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Kath Pelletti" <KP at sdsonline.net>
To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving" 
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Wednesday, June 15, 2005 8:50 PM
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Australia - find nearest location


Not sure where Susan lives - but were not that civilised........
:)
Kath
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: William Hindman
  To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
  Sent: Wednesday, June 15, 2005 3:31 AM
  Subject: Re: [AccessD] Australia - find nearest location


  ..no, no, no ...Kath lives in Australia ...you live in the outback :)

  William
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: "Susan Harkins" <ssharkins at bellsouth.net>
  To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'"
  <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
  Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2005 10:14 AM
  Subject: RE: [AccessD] Australia - find nearest location


  > Hmmmm... William, you could be talking to Kath or me. :)
  >
  > Susan H.
  >
  > ..move to civilization? :)
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From ssharkins at bellsouth.net  Wed Jun 15 20:18:48 2005
From: ssharkins at bellsouth.net (Susan Harkins)
Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2005 21:18:48 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Australia - find nearest location
In-Reply-To: <003d01c5720d$67331730$6601a8c0@user>
Message-ID: <20050616011855.VLOI13045.ibm69aec.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>

Cowpoke, Kentucky :) Beautiful women, fast horses, and smooth bourbon. :) 

Susan H. 

Not sure where Susan lives - but were not that civilised........
:)



From dejpolsys at hotmail.com  Wed Jun 15 20:38:14 2005
From: dejpolsys at hotmail.com (William Hindman)
Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2005 21:38:14 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Australia - find nearest location
References: <20050616011855.VLOI13045.ibm69aec.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>
Message-ID: <BAY103-DAV434E3838C823F7E1D2F72AEF50@phx.gbl>

..the way I heard it was ...fast women, beautiful horses, and hard liquor 
..not necessarily in that order :)))

William

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Susan Harkins" <ssharkins at bellsouth.net>
To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'" 
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Wednesday, June 15, 2005 9:18 PM
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Australia - find nearest location


> Cowpoke, Kentucky :) Beautiful women, fast horses, and smooth bourbon. :)
>
> Susan H.
>
> Not sure where Susan lives - but were not that civilised........
> :)
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From ssharkins at bellsouth.net  Wed Jun 15 20:42:48 2005
From: ssharkins at bellsouth.net (Susan Harkins)
Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2005 21:42:48 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Australia - find nearest location
In-Reply-To: <BAY103-DAV434E3838C823F7E1D2F72AEF50@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <20050616014247.HBTZ25209.ibm63aec.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>

You've been here?????????? ;) 

I'm sorry -- that's my absolute last -- William, do NOT respond or we're
going to get spanked! ;) 

Susan H. 

..the way I heard it was ...fast women, beautiful horses, and hard liquor
..not necessarily in that order :)))



From Bruce.Bruen at railcorp.nsw.gov.au  Wed Jun 15 20:58:43 2005
From: Bruce.Bruen at railcorp.nsw.gov.au (Bruen, Bruce)
Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2005 11:58:43 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] Australia - find nearest location
Message-ID: <F2BE8EAB3EA585418337B71BCE6F3BF304EBBD@msmet100.rail.nsw.gov.au>

"Basically what I need to know is whether proximity in number =
proximity in distance - I am guessing that it won't always be the
case..."

You have guessed correctly.  It wont work, a) the original postcodes
were allocated as a loose function of distance from the mail clearance
centre - (way back in the 60's??)
b)since then new codes have been allocated and old ones modified and
reallocated under a series of illogic that thoroughly eliminates any
possibility of determining relative geographic co-ordinates across
Australia.  However, there is a correlation between a postcode and a
thing, IIRC, a mail delivery point (which in some cases goes down to a
building or even a location within a building.) APO has occassionally
published this database but I haven't seen or had any use for it for
over 4 years - so I've lost the access to it.

Sensis, yahoo/local and even the website that lists your company have
functionality that provides this type of lookup but I'm d*mned if I know
how they do it.

regards
bruce


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Kath Pelletti
Sent: Tuesday, 14 June 2005 7:06 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Australia - find nearest location

Thanks Michael - I think I need to learn about the way / rules that
postcodes are allocated in my region - that way I may be able to create
some sort of process. Just thought someone may have looked into that
before.

Basically what I need to know is whether proximity in number = proximity
in distance - I am guessing that it won't always be the case...

Kath


----- Original Message -----
  From: Michael Maddison
  To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
  Sent: Friday, June 10, 2005 10:48 AM
  Subject: RE: [AccessD] Australia - find nearest location


  Never tried myself, but the discussions here recently on MapPoint
might
  lead the way.

  cheers

  Michael M

  Hi all - Just wondering whether there happens to be anyone on list who
  may already have done this - 

  I'm writing a new system for a training company and they want add a
  geographic search capability - ie. they would like to enter a suburb
or
  postcode and the system displays will show the courses which run
closest
  to them geographically.

  Any tips? Or if anyone has done this at all - can you tell me what
your
  approach was?

  Thanks - rgds

  ______________________________________________
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From bchacc at san.rr.com  Thu Jun 16 00:35:24 2005
From: bchacc at san.rr.com (Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software)
Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2005 22:35:24 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Design View Increment
References: <018701c571d1$2c609d80$6801a8c0@HAL9004>
	<6.2.1.2.0.20050616055031.02b302d0@mail.dalyn.co.nz>
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Can't get it to behave correctly in 2003.

Rocky

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To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving" 
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Wednesday, June 15, 2005 10:55 AM
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Design View Increment


> Rocky,
>
> I don't have A2003 but have noticed funny behaviour in A2002 - sometimes 
> holding the Ctrl key combination behaves as if the Snap To Grid option is 
> checked in the format menu bar (ie with large increments).  Then when I 
> check the Snap to Grid option, the Ctrl combination works with small 
> increments and not larger ones. :-\
>
> Regards
>
> David Emerson
> Dalyn Software Ltd
> 25 Cunliffe St, Churton Park
> Wellington, New Zealand
> Ph/Fax (04) 478-7456
> Mobile 027-280-9348
>
> At 16/06/2005, you wrote:
>>Dear List:
>>
>>I use the control and arrow keys to move controls around on forms and 
>>reports because of the fine control your get that way.  In Access 2000 the 
>>increment (ctrl-Up Arrow, for instance) was very small. I recently moved 
>>to Access 2003 and the increment is very large.  I tries increasing the 
>>Grid X Grid Y values but it didn't help.
>>
>>Is there a setting that controls the increment?
>>
>>MTIA,
>>
>>Rocky Smolin
>>Beach Access Software
>>http://www.e-z-mrp.com
>>858-259-4334
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From Erwin.Craps at ithelps.be  Thu Jun 16 06:43:18 2005
From: Erwin.Craps at ithelps.be (Erwin Craps - IT Helps)
Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2005 13:43:18 +0200
Subject: [AccessD] Urgent help needed with IIS
	server.CreateObject("ADODB.Connection")
Message-ID: <46B976F2B698FF46A4FE7636509B22DF1B5C7F@stekelbes.ithelps.local>

 
I'm getting desperate over here.
 
Yesterday I installed this mont security fixes on my W2K server.
I also took the opportunity to install SQL SP4.
 
>From that reboot on, non of my database driven website no longer
functions.
 
For both "JET 4 MDB" and "SQL server" access I get an error on this
command where it always used to work before the updates. 
failing command server.CreateObject("ADODB.Connection")
Retunred error
Server object error 'ASP 0178 : 80070005' 
Server.CreateObject Access Error
The call to Server.CreateObject failed while checking permissions.
Access is denied to this object. 
 

 

I checked al my NTFS permissons according to the MSKB, but I believe
everything is ok.

Anyway, it worked for years before this update.

 

Is this a bug in the windows fiexes????

 

 

 

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From nkling at co.montgomery.ny.us  Thu Jun 16 07:16:06 2005
From: nkling at co.montgomery.ny.us (Neal Kling)
Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2005 08:16:06 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Urgent help needed with
	IISserver.CreateObject("ADODB.Connection")
Message-ID: <30BC111F638EB54082001A7E7282FE41114D4A@elmo.co.montgomery.ny.us>

Google returned this possibility

http://www.developersdex.com/asp/message.asp?p=575&ID=%3C%23J3kRXQyEHA.2012%40TK2MSFTNGP15.phx.gbl%3E

and

http://support.microsoft.com/kb/198432/EN-US/

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Sent: Thursday, June 16, 2005 7:43 AM
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Subject: [AccessD] Urgent help needed with
IISserver.CreateObject("ADODB.Connection")
Importance: High


 
I'm getting desperate over here.
 
Yesterday I installed this mont security fixes on my W2K server.
I also took the opportunity to install SQL SP4.
 
>From that reboot on, non of my database driven website no longer
functions.
 
For both "JET 4 MDB" and "SQL server" access I get an error on this
command where it always used to work before the updates. 
failing command server.CreateObject("ADODB.Connection")
Retunred error
Server object error 'ASP 0178 : 80070005' 
Server.CreateObject Access Error
The call to Server.CreateObject failed while checking permissions.
Access is denied to this object. 
 

 

I checked al my NTFS permissons according to the MSKB, but I believe
everything is ok.

Anyway, it worked for years before this update.

 

Is this a bug in the windows fiexes????

 

 

 

Erwin Craps

Zaakvoerder 

www.ithelps.be/onsgezin

 

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From Erwin.Craps at ithelps.be  Thu Jun 16 07:36:56 2005
From: Erwin.Craps at ithelps.be (Erwin Craps - IT Helps)
Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2005 14:36:56 +0200
Subject: [AccessD] Urgent help needed
	withIISserver.CreateObject("ADODB.Connection")
Message-ID: <46B976F2B698FF46A4FE7636509B22DF1B5C80@stekelbes.ithelps.local>

Already checked those, was already OK.

It is however a security issue, turning of anonimous access and loggin
on as a administrator works. Afterwards I can put back anonymous on and
it still works until reboot.

So there must be a DLL with insuffciant rights that needs to be launched
with IUSR rights.
Some dll must be changed while installing these fixes and lost its IUSR
or everyone rights.
But which one, I already checked "common Files\system\ado", "common
Files\system\msadc", "common Files\system\ole db",
"system32\msvbvm50.dll" and "system32\msvbvm60.dll"
 
Erwin


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Sent: Thursday, June 16, 2005 2:16 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Urgent help needed
withIISserver.CreateObject("ADODB.Connection")

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012%40TK2MSFTNGP15.phx.gbl%3E

and

http://support.microsoft.com/kb/198432/EN-US/

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Sent: Thursday, June 16, 2005 7:43 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: [AccessD] Urgent help needed with
IISserver.CreateObject("ADODB.Connection")
Importance: High


 
I'm getting desperate over here.
 
Yesterday I installed this mont security fixes on my W2K server.
I also took the opportunity to install SQL SP4.
 
>From that reboot on, non of my database driven website no longer
functions.
 
For both "JET 4 MDB" and "SQL server" access I get an error on this
command where it always used to work before the updates. 
failing command server.CreateObject("ADODB.Connection")
Retunred error
Server object error 'ASP 0178 : 80070005' 
Server.CreateObject Access Error
The call to Server.CreateObject failed while checking permissions.
Access is denied to this object. 
 

 

I checked al my NTFS permissons according to the MSKB, but I believe
everything is ok.

Anyway, it worked for years before this update.

 

Is this a bug in the windows fiexes????

 

 

 

Erwin Craps

Zaakvoerder 

www.ithelps.be/onsgezin

 

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From Erwin.Craps at ithelps.be  Thu Jun 16 09:20:39 2005
From: Erwin.Craps at ithelps.be (Erwin Craps - IT Helps)
Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2005 16:20:39 +0200
Subject: [AccessD] Urgent help
	neededwithIISserver.CreateObject("ADODB.Connection")
Message-ID: <46B976F2B698FF46A4FE7636509B22DF1B5C81@stekelbes.ithelps.local>

I still havent found the origin of the problem but it is related to the
windows updates of last night or the SQL SP4.

I have workaround the problem by this.
Starting from a freshly booted server.

Turn of anonymous access for one of the database driven webs/subwebs.
Goto the the database driven webpage.
A login popup screen asks for the loging >>> ignore it by canceling.
The page loads normaly with access to the database.
Turn back on the anonymous access so the popup is no longer presented to
the user.

All website now function again until reboot...
So it is clearly a security issue with the IUSR account, I believe there
a problem with the synchronisation of this password.
Executing "cscript.exe adsutil.vbs get w3svc/anonymoususerpass" to
retrieve the password results in a "Parameter anonymoususerpass not set
in this node" error.

So when deactivating the anonymous option, I supose it load with some
other right (everyone???).
Posibly some dll with missing IUSR ReX rights.

My website (database part) is already down for almost 24 hours now..





 

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IT Helps
Sent: Thursday, June 16, 2005 2:37 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Urgent help
neededwithIISserver.CreateObject("ADODB.Connection")

Already checked those, was already OK.

It is however a security issue, turning of anonimous access and loggin
on as a administrator works. Afterwards I can put back anonymous on and
it still works until reboot.

So there must be a DLL with insuffciant rights that needs to be launched
with IUSR rights.
Some dll must be changed while installing these fixes and lost its IUSR
or everyone rights.
But which one, I already checked "common Files\system\ado", "common
Files\system\msadc", "common Files\system\ole db",
"system32\msvbvm50.dll" and "system32\msvbvm60.dll"
 
Erwin


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[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Neal Kling
Sent: Thursday, June 16, 2005 2:16 PM
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Subject: RE: [AccessD] Urgent help needed
withIISserver.CreateObject("ADODB.Connection")

Google returned this possibility

http://www.developersdex.com/asp/message.asp?p=575&ID=%3C%23J3kRXQyEHA.2
012%40TK2MSFTNGP15.phx.gbl%3E

and

http://support.microsoft.com/kb/198432/EN-US/

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Sent: Thursday, June 16, 2005 7:43 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: [AccessD] Urgent help needed with
IISserver.CreateObject("ADODB.Connection")
Importance: High


 
I'm getting desperate over here.
 
Yesterday I installed this mont security fixes on my W2K server.
I also took the opportunity to install SQL SP4.
 
>From that reboot on, non of my database driven website no longer
functions.
 
For both "JET 4 MDB" and "SQL server" access I get an error on this
command where it always used to work before the updates. 
failing command server.CreateObject("ADODB.Connection")
Retunred error
Server object error 'ASP 0178 : 80070005' 
Server.CreateObject Access Error
The call to Server.CreateObject failed while checking permissions.
Access is denied to this object. 
 

 

I checked al my NTFS permissons according to the MSKB, but I believe
everything is ok.

Anyway, it worked for years before this update.

 

Is this a bug in the windows fiexes????

 

 

 

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From accessd at shaw.ca  Thu Jun 16 10:06:54 2005
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2005 08:06:54 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Urgent help needed with
	IISserver.CreateObject("ADODB.Connection")
In-Reply-To: <46B976F2B698FF46A4FE7636509B22DF1B5C7F@stekelbes.ithelps.local>
Message-ID: <0II600MHTNBGJZ@l-daemon>

Hi Erwin:

Have you seen this article from MS?
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/198432/EN-US/

<Microsoft>
Solution:
You need to give the IUSR_<machine_name> account permissions to launch and
access your OOP COM object using dcomcnfg by doing the following: 
1. Launch DCOMCNFG by clicking the Start button, selecting Run, and typing
"Dcomcnfg" in the Run dialog box.  
2. In the Default Security tab, click the "Edit Default" in the "Default
Access Permissions" frame. The Registry Value Permissions dialog box
appears.  
3. Add the IUSR_<machine_name>account and the INTERACTIVE account to the
Registry Value Permissions dialog box, and click OK. 
4. In the Default Security tab, click the Edit Default in the Default Launch
Permissions frame. The Registry Value Permissions dialog box appears.  
5. Add the IUSR_<machine_name> account to the Registry Value Permissions
dialog box0, and click OK.  
</Microsoft>

HTH
Jim

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Helps
Sent: Thursday, June 16, 2005 4:43 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: [AccessD] Urgent help needed with
IISserver.CreateObject("ADODB.Connection")
Importance: High

 
I'm getting desperate over here.
 
Yesterday I installed this mont security fixes on my W2K server.
I also took the opportunity to install SQL SP4.
 
>From that reboot on, non of my database driven website no longer
functions.
 
For both "JET 4 MDB" and "SQL server" access I get an error on this
command where it always used to work before the updates. 
failing command server.CreateObject("ADODB.Connection")
Retunred error
Server object error 'ASP 0178 : 80070005' 
Server.CreateObject Access Error
The call to Server.CreateObject failed while checking permissions.
Access is denied to this object. 
 

 

I checked al my NTFS permissons according to the MSKB, but I believe
everything is ok.

Anyway, it worked for years before this update.

 

Is this a bug in the windows fiexes????

 

 

 

Erwin Craps

Zaakvoerder 

www.ithelps.be/onsgezin

 

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From Jim.Hale at FleetPride.com  Thu Jun 16 13:06:16 2005
From: Jim.Hale at FleetPride.com (Hale, Jim)
Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2005 13:06:16 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Select case is too cumbersome
Message-ID: <6A6AA9DF57E4F046BDA1E273BDDB6772337677@corp-es01.fleetpride.com>

I have a form which lists different Excel workbooks I can populate. When I
make a selection from the form I read the path to the appropriate excel
template  and the select case number from a table. I pass these to a
function  "Public Function Load_Financials(intCaseno As Integer, strpathname
As String)" for processing. The function opens the appropriate Excel
template and, based upon the select case number, populates the template from
various recordsets and formats the workbook as appropriate. All of this
works fine. My problem is that I am up to case 40 in my select statement.
Many of the cases are quite lengthy so Load_Financials is getting out of
hand. 5 cases was no big deal, 40 and 500 lines of code is a bit much.
Surely there is a more elegant way to arrange this. For example, I read "Two
functions you don't use enough" in this month's Smart Access which suggested
each case can be placed in its own function and the EVAL function can be
used to execute them. How do ya'll handle this issue?

Jim Hale

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From darsant at gmail.com  Thu Jun 16 13:17:59 2005
From: darsant at gmail.com (Josh McFarlane)
Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2005 13:17:59 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Select case is too cumbersome
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On 6/16/05, Hale, Jim <Jim.Hale at fleetpride.com> wrote:
> I have a form which lists different Excel workbooks I can populate. When I
> make a selection from the form I read the path to the appropriate excel
> template  and the select case number from a table. I pass these to a
> function  "Public Function Load_Financials(intCaseno As Integer, strpathname
> As String)" for processing. The function opens the appropriate Excel
> template and, based upon the select case number, populates the template from
> various recordsets and formats the workbook as appropriate. All of this
> works fine. My problem is that I am up to case 40 in my select statement.
> Many of the cases are quite lengthy so Load_Financials is getting out of
> hand. 5 cases was no big deal, 40 and 500 lines of code is a bit much.
> Surely there is a more elegant way to arrange this. For example, I read "Two
> functions you don't use enough" in this month's Smart Access which suggested
> each case can be placed in its own function and the EVAL function can be
> used to execute them. How do ya'll handle this issue?
> 
> Jim Hale
> 
If you're just speaking from an Access perspective, I'd haev one
function with just the SELECT / CASE statement, then for each case,
call a seperate function for the differences.

If some of your cases have the same code for chunks, you could group
them in one function and call the function in the Case statement.

For example, creating an excel file, formating a header, formatting
the data, then saving, you could seperate it into 4 functions: Create
file (before the case), Format Header and Format Data within the case,
then Save File / Write Data at the end.

This way you would have a set of stable functions and can save
yourself from redundant work / large files.

-- 
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"Peace cannot be kept by force. It can only be achieved by understanding."
-Albert Einstein


From marcus at tsstech.com  Thu Jun 16 13:26:07 2005
From: marcus at tsstech.com (Scott Marcus)
Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2005 14:26:07 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Select case is too cumbersome
Message-ID: <B7B1803D6973C84F97D412AFCDA8EA7D023BC44D@2003exchg.TSS.AD>

Why not this?

Public Function Load_Financials(intCaseno As Integer, strpathname As
String)
	Select Case intCaseno
		Case 1
			Call SubroutineForFirstCase(strpathname)
		Case 2
            	Call SubroutineForSecondCase(strpathname)
			.
			.
			.
		Case n
			Call SubroutineForNthCase(strpathname)
	End Select
End Function

Private Sub SubroutineForFirstCase(strpathname as string)
	'Do some work.
End Sub

Scott Marcus
TSS Technologies, Inc.
marcus at tsstech.com
 




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From Jim.Hale at FleetPride.com  Thu Jun 16 14:29:17 2005
From: Jim.Hale at FleetPride.com (Hale, Jim)
Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2005 14:29:17 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Select case is too cumbersome
Message-ID: <6A6AA9DF57E4F046BDA1E273BDDB6772337678@corp-es01.fleetpride.com>

I think what you suggest is doable. I have created a class that handles
opening and saving the Excel spreadsheet. I think  much of the remaining
code deals with opening recordsets and pasting data. I think I'll create a
table to hold all the query names and work sheet names and execute the paste
function as a method from within my class. This will still leave a fairly
bodacious, if somewhat slimmed down, select statement. The trick as you
suggest is to identify the truly repeating elements and build functions.
Anyone used used the EVAL function like the Article I mentioned suggests?

Jim Hale

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Sent: Thursday, June 16, 2005 1:18 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Select case is too cumbersome


On 6/16/05, Hale, Jim <Jim.Hale at fleetpride.com> wrote:
> I have a form which lists different Excel workbooks I can populate. When I
> make a selection from the form I read the path to the appropriate excel
> template  and the select case number from a table. I pass these to a
> function  "Public Function Load_Financials(intCaseno As Integer,
strpathname
> As String)" for processing. The function opens the appropriate Excel
> template and, based upon the select case number, populates the template
from
> various recordsets and formats the workbook as appropriate. All of this
> works fine. My problem is that I am up to case 40 in my select statement.
> Many of the cases are quite lengthy so Load_Financials is getting out of
> hand. 5 cases was no big deal, 40 and 500 lines of code is a bit much.
> Surely there is a more elegant way to arrange this. For example, I read
"Two
> functions you don't use enough" in this month's Smart Access which
suggested
> each case can be placed in its own function and the EVAL function can be
> used to execute them. How do ya'll handle this issue?
> 
> Jim Hale
> 
If you're just speaking from an Access perspective, I'd haev one
function with just the SELECT / CASE statement, then for each case,
call a seperate function for the differences.

If some of your cases have the same code for chunks, you could group
them in one function and call the function in the Case statement.

For example, creating an excel file, formating a header, formatting
the data, then saving, you could seperate it into 4 functions: Create
file (before the case), Format Header and Format Data within the case,
then Save File / Write Data at the end.

This way you would have a set of stable functions and can save
yourself from redundant work / large files.

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From dejpolsys at hotmail.com  Thu Jun 16 15:15:29 2005
From: dejpolsys at hotmail.com (William Hindman)
Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2005 16:15:29 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Select case is too cumbersome
References: <6A6AA9DF57E4F046BDA1E273BDDB6772337678@corp-es01.fleetpride.com>
Message-ID: <BAY103-DAV13E85EF2EADEDEF38F2062AEF50@phx.gbl>

..I'm missing something here (not the first time) ...but why are you using 
a select here rather than building a combo on the fly and using that 
instead? ...rename all the applicable queries from qryxxx to zqryxxx and 
fill your combo with a qry on zqryxxx ...much faster than a select and you 
don't have to recode it everytime you add a new qry.

William

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Subject: RE: [AccessD] Select case is too cumbersome


>I think what you suggest is doable. I have created a class that handles
> opening and saving the Excel spreadsheet. I think  much of the remaining
> code deals with opening recordsets and pasting data. I think I'll create a
> table to hold all the query names and work sheet names and execute the 
> paste
> function as a method from within my class. This will still leave a fairly
> bodacious, if somewhat slimmed down, select statement. The trick as you
> suggest is to identify the truly repeating elements and build functions.
> Anyone used used the EVAL function like the Article I mentioned suggests?
>
> Jim Hale
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Josh McFarlane [mailto:darsant at gmail.com]
> Sent: Thursday, June 16, 2005 1:18 PM
> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] Select case is too cumbersome
>
>
> On 6/16/05, Hale, Jim <Jim.Hale at fleetpride.com> wrote:
>> I have a form which lists different Excel workbooks I can populate. When 
>> I
>> make a selection from the form I read the path to the appropriate excel
>> template  and the select case number from a table. I pass these to a
>> function  "Public Function Load_Financials(intCaseno As Integer,
> strpathname
>> As String)" for processing. The function opens the appropriate Excel
>> template and, based upon the select case number, populates the template
> from
>> various recordsets and formats the workbook as appropriate. All of this
>> works fine. My problem is that I am up to case 40 in my select statement.
>> Many of the cases are quite lengthy so Load_Financials is getting out of
>> hand. 5 cases was no big deal, 40 and 500 lines of code is a bit much.
>> Surely there is a more elegant way to arrange this. For example, I read
> "Two
>> functions you don't use enough" in this month's Smart Access which
> suggested
>> each case can be placed in its own function and the EVAL function can be
>> used to execute them. How do ya'll handle this issue?
>>
>> Jim Hale
>>
> If you're just speaking from an Access perspective, I'd haev one
> function with just the SELECT / CASE statement, then for each case,
> call a seperate function for the differences.
>
> If some of your cases have the same code for chunks, you could group
> them in one function and call the function in the Case statement.
>
> For example, creating an excel file, formating a header, formatting
> the data, then saving, you could seperate it into 4 functions: Create
> file (before the case), Format Header and Format Data within the case,
> then Save File / Write Data at the end.
>
> This way you would have a set of stable functions and can save
> yourself from redundant work / large files.
>
> -- 
> Josh McFarlane
> "Peace cannot be kept by force. It can only be achieved by understanding."
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From martyconnelly at shaw.ca  Thu Jun 16 15:19:37 2005
From: martyconnelly at shaw.ca (MartyConnelly)
Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2005 13:19:37 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] ms access 2003 query
References: <BAY102-F288F0228CF80914D081583ABF20@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <42B1DED9.2050102@shaw.ca>

Ah you are trying to toggle the control wizards button on the toolbox 
menu in form design view.
If anyone else is wondering why this is needed, we have a blind 
programmer here.
An accomplishment with Access GUI.

Create a function in modules like this

Function toggleControlWizard()
Dim ctl As Variant
For Each ctl In CommandBars("Toolbox").Controls
'  Debug.Print ctl.Caption 'List all Caption Names
  If ctl.Caption = "Control &Wizards" Then
  'toggle the button on of off
  ctl.Execute
  End If
Next

Then create a special macro called "autokeys"
There is a catch 22 for you here you have to toggle macro names on
but you can set this to be automatically turned on for all Access via 
this menu sequence
Tools --> Options --> View
There are two check boxes under this part of menu Show in Macro Design
Check off both.
Names Column
Conditions Column

Now open up a new Macro

under macro name put a control key sequence I chose CTRL - F12 as it is 
not used much

^{F12}
under Action put
RunCode
under Action put
Beep
This will give you an auditory clue.

in function name
toggleControlWizard()
save the autokeys macro call it autokeys

Now in Forms Design
Pressing CTL + F12
will toggle Control Wizards On and Off
Pressing this key combinations elsewhere will generate an error

You may have login and out of the mdb to initialize autokeys, can't 
remember.

There maybe another way to do this via code that I haven't puzzled out.
since it is mostly used by excel programmers.
using something like a statement of this variety using direct control of 
the IDE or as it is called VBE

With Application.VBE.CommandBars("Menu Bar").Controls("Toolbox")
See these articles
http://www.cpearson.com/excel/vbe.htm
http://www.cpearson.com/excel/vbemenus.htm





marvin hunkin wrote:

> Hi.
> some one mentioned on the list a while back, how to get round of 
> activating the advanced wizards using the tool box in ms access 2003.
> how to get round, having no short cut keys, and no way to activate the 
> say command button wizard in form or report design of a form or report 
> in ms access 2003.
> if any one got any tips on how to get round this problem, without 
> dragging and dropping the mouse, and tried the jaws drag and drop 
> feature, but still would not activate it without sighted assistance.
> did ask freedom scientific, but had no plans to fix this problem, and 
> did report it to tech support over 12 months ago before jaws 6.0 came 
> out last year.
> so if any one has got me the answer i am looking for, then let me know.
> cheers Marvin.
>
>

-- 
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Victoria, B.C.
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From Jim.Hale at FleetPride.com  Thu Jun 16 15:54:46 2005
From: Jim.Hale at FleetPride.com (Hale, Jim)
Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2005 15:54:46 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Select case is too cumbersome
Message-ID: <6A6AA9DF57E4F046BDA1E273BDDB677233767A@corp-es01.fleetpride.com>

I don't follow. I am selecting  from a combo box the name of an excel
template to be filled. The template may require data from one or more
recordsets. Additionally, special formatting may be necessary. The way I
identify the unique code required by each template to open the separate
recordsets, paste the data, do the formatting etc.  is by assigning it a
select case no which is stored in a table. Make sense?
Jim Hale 

-----Original Message-----
From: William Hindman [mailto:dejpolsys at hotmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, June 16, 2005 3:15 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Select case is too cumbersome


..I'm missing something here (not the first time) ...but why are you using 
a select here rather than building a combo on the fly and using that 
instead? ...rename all the applicable queries from qryxxx to zqryxxx and 
fill your combo with a qry on zqryxxx ...much faster than a select and you 
don't have to recode it everytime you add a new qry.

William

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Hale, Jim" <Jim.Hale at fleetpride.com>
To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'" 
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Thursday, June 16, 2005 3:29 PM
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Select case is too cumbersome


>I think what you suggest is doable. I have created a class that handles
> opening and saving the Excel spreadsheet. I think  much of the remaining
> code deals with opening recordsets and pasting data. I think I'll create a
> table to hold all the query names and work sheet names and execute the 
> paste
> function as a method from within my class. This will still leave a fairly
> bodacious, if somewhat slimmed down, select statement. The trick as you
> suggest is to identify the truly repeating elements and build functions.
> Anyone used used the EVAL function like the Article I mentioned suggests?
>
> Jim Hale
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Josh McFarlane [mailto:darsant at gmail.com]
> Sent: Thursday, June 16, 2005 1:18 PM
> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] Select case is too cumbersome
>
>
> On 6/16/05, Hale, Jim <Jim.Hale at fleetpride.com> wrote:
>> I have a form which lists different Excel workbooks I can populate. When 
>> I
>> make a selection from the form I read the path to the appropriate excel
>> template  and the select case number from a table. I pass these to a
>> function  "Public Function Load_Financials(intCaseno As Integer,
> strpathname
>> As String)" for processing. The function opens the appropriate Excel
>> template and, based upon the select case number, populates the template
> from
>> various recordsets and formats the workbook as appropriate. All of this
>> works fine. My problem is that I am up to case 40 in my select statement.
>> Many of the cases are quite lengthy so Load_Financials is getting out of
>> hand. 5 cases was no big deal, 40 and 500 lines of code is a bit much.
>> Surely there is a more elegant way to arrange this. For example, I read
> "Two
>> functions you don't use enough" in this month's Smart Access which
> suggested
>> each case can be placed in its own function and the EVAL function can be
>> used to execute them. How do ya'll handle this issue?
>>
>> Jim Hale
>>
> If you're just speaking from an Access perspective, I'd haev one
> function with just the SELECT / CASE statement, then for each case,
> call a seperate function for the differences.
>
> If some of your cases have the same code for chunks, you could group
> them in one function and call the function in the Case statement.
>
> For example, creating an excel file, formating a header, formatting
> the data, then saving, you could seperate it into 4 functions: Create
> file (before the case), Format Header and Format Data within the case,
> then Save File / Write Data at the end.
>
> This way you would have a set of stable functions and can save
> yourself from redundant work / large files.
>
> -- 
> Josh McFarlane
> "Peace cannot be kept by force. It can only be achieved by understanding."
> -Albert Einstein
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From bchacc at san.rr.com  Thu Jun 16 16:18:00 2005
From: bchacc at san.rr.com (Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software)
Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2005 14:18:00 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Print To Picture
Message-ID: <0cf901c572b8$e01441a0$6801a8c0@HAL9004>

Dear List:

I have a great utility on my old machine called print to picture.  Installs like a printer and will print to a file which you can then copy into a word doc.  I need it on my new machine but can't find it anymore.  Anyone know where it is?

TIA,

Rocky Smolin
Beach Access Software
http://www.e-z-mrp.com
858-259-4334


From dejpolsys at hotmail.com  Thu Jun 16 16:24:43 2005
From: dejpolsys at hotmail.com (William Hindman)
Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2005 17:24:43 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Select case is too cumbersome
References: <6A6AA9DF57E4F046BDA1E273BDDB677233767A@corp-es01.fleetpride.com>
Message-ID: <BAY103-DAV108B1523A4F5765C334520AEF50@phx.gbl>

..if you're selecting a template from a combo why not have it open another 
cascading combo with the options for the selected template rather than a 
lengthy select operation which requires recoding every time you change 
something?

William

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Hale, Jim" <Jim.Hale at fleetpride.com>
To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'" 
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Thursday, June 16, 2005 4:54 PM
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Select case is too cumbersome


>I don't follow. I am selecting  from a combo box the name of an excel
> template to be filled. The template may require data from one or more
> recordsets. Additionally, special formatting may be necessary. The way I
> identify the unique code required by each template to open the separate
> recordsets, paste the data, do the formatting etc.  is by assigning it a
> select case no which is stored in a table. Make sense?
> Jim Hale
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: William Hindman [mailto:dejpolsys at hotmail.com]
> Sent: Thursday, June 16, 2005 3:15 PM
> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] Select case is too cumbersome
>
>
> ..I'm missing something here (not the first time) ...but why are you using
> a select here rather than building a combo on the fly and using that
> instead? ...rename all the applicable queries from qryxxx to zqryxxx and
> fill your combo with a qry on zqryxxx ...much faster than a select and you
> don't have to recode it everytime you add a new qry.
>
> William
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Hale, Jim" <Jim.Hale at fleetpride.com>
> To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'"
> <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
> Sent: Thursday, June 16, 2005 3:29 PM
> Subject: RE: [AccessD] Select case is too cumbersome
>
>
>>I think what you suggest is doable. I have created a class that handles
>> opening and saving the Excel spreadsheet. I think  much of the remaining
>> code deals with opening recordsets and pasting data. I think I'll create 
>> a
>> table to hold all the query names and work sheet names and execute the
>> paste
>> function as a method from within my class. This will still leave a fairly
>> bodacious, if somewhat slimmed down, select statement. The trick as you
>> suggest is to identify the truly repeating elements and build functions.
>> Anyone used used the EVAL function like the Article I mentioned suggests?
>>
>> Jim Hale
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Josh McFarlane [mailto:darsant at gmail.com]
>> Sent: Thursday, June 16, 2005 1:18 PM
>> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
>> Subject: Re: [AccessD] Select case is too cumbersome
>>
>>
>> On 6/16/05, Hale, Jim <Jim.Hale at fleetpride.com> wrote:
>>> I have a form which lists different Excel workbooks I can populate. When
>>> I
>>> make a selection from the form I read the path to the appropriate excel
>>> template  and the select case number from a table. I pass these to a
>>> function  "Public Function Load_Financials(intCaseno As Integer,
>> strpathname
>>> As String)" for processing. The function opens the appropriate Excel
>>> template and, based upon the select case number, populates the template
>> from
>>> various recordsets and formats the workbook as appropriate. All of this
>>> works fine. My problem is that I am up to case 40 in my select 
>>> statement.
>>> Many of the cases are quite lengthy so Load_Financials is getting out of
>>> hand. 5 cases was no big deal, 40 and 500 lines of code is a bit much.
>>> Surely there is a more elegant way to arrange this. For example, I read
>> "Two
>>> functions you don't use enough" in this month's Smart Access which
>> suggested
>>> each case can be placed in its own function and the EVAL function can be
>>> used to execute them. How do ya'll handle this issue?
>>>
>>> Jim Hale
>>>
>> If you're just speaking from an Access perspective, I'd haev one
>> function with just the SELECT / CASE statement, then for each case,
>> call a seperate function for the differences.
>>
>> If some of your cases have the same code for chunks, you could group
>> them in one function and call the function in the Case statement.
>>
>> For example, creating an excel file, formating a header, formatting
>> the data, then saving, you could seperate it into 4 functions: Create
>> file (before the case), Format Header and Format Data within the case,
>> then Save File / Write Data at the end.
>>
>> This way you would have a set of stable functions and can save
>> yourself from redundant work / large files.
>>
>> -- 
>> Josh McFarlane
>> "Peace cannot be kept by force. It can only be achieved by 
>> understanding."
>> -Albert Einstein
>> -- 
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>> any damages caused by any virus transmitted by this email.
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From dejpolsys at hotmail.com  Thu Jun 16 16:40:14 2005
From: dejpolsys at hotmail.com (William Hindman)
Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2005 17:40:14 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Print To Picture
References: <0cf901c572b8$e01441a0$6801a8c0@HAL9004>
Message-ID: <BAY103-DAV831AB0E750F787DD66861AEF50@phx.gbl>

http://www.verypdf.com/artprint/document-printer/print-to-picture.html
http://narod.yandex.ru/100.xhtml?progrex.narod.ru/files/ptp102.zip

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software" <bchacc at san.rr.com>
To: <AccessD at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Thursday, June 16, 2005 5:18 PM
Subject: [AccessD] Print To Picture


Dear List:

I have a great utility on my old machine called print to picture.  Installs 
like a printer and will print to a file which you can then copy into a word 
doc.  I need it on my new machine but can't find it anymore.  Anyone know 
where it is?

TIA,

Rocky Smolin
Beach Access Software
http://www.e-z-mrp.com
858-259-4334
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From bchacc at san.rr.com  Thu Jun 16 16:44:21 2005
From: bchacc at san.rr.com (Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software)
Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2005 14:44:21 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Print To Picture
References: <0cf901c572b8$e01441a0$6801a8c0@HAL9004>
Message-ID: <0d5001c572bc$8e5d1450$6801a8c0@HAL9004>

Never mind.  Found the .exe on my old machine.  But the original link is 
404.  So if anyone wants it, I've got it.

Rocky

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software" <bchacc at san.rr.com>
To: <AccessD at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Thursday, June 16, 2005 2:18 PM
Subject: [AccessD] Print To Picture


Dear List:

I have a great utility on my old machine called print to picture.  Installs 
like a printer and will print to a file which you can then copy into a word 
doc.  I need it on my new machine but can't find it anymore.  Anyone know 
where it is?

TIA,

Rocky Smolin
Beach Access Software
http://www.e-z-mrp.com
858-259-4334
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From JHewson at karta.com  Thu Jun 16 16:50:35 2005
From: JHewson at karta.com (Jim Hewson)
Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2005 16:50:35 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Print To Picture
Message-ID: <9C382E065F54AE48BC3AA7925DCBB01C0362957B@karta-exc-int.Karta.com>

Sounds like a useful tool.
I've never heard of 404.  I'd like to be able to get it.
Thanks,
Jim 

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Rocky Smolin
- Beach Access Software
Sent: Thursday, June 16, 2005 4:44 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Print To Picture

Never mind.  Found the .exe on my old machine.  But the original link is
404.  So if anyone wants it, I've got it.

Rocky

----- Original Message -----
From: "Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software" <bchacc at san.rr.com>
To: <AccessD at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Thursday, June 16, 2005 2:18 PM
Subject: [AccessD] Print To Picture


Dear List:

I have a great utility on my old machine called print to picture.
Installs 
like a printer and will print to a file which you can then copy into a
word 
doc.  I need it on my new machine but can't find it anymore.  Anyone
know 
where it is?

TIA,

Rocky Smolin
Beach Access Software
http://www.e-z-mrp.com
858-259-4334
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From cfoust at infostatsystems.com  Thu Jun 16 16:58:22 2005
From: cfoust at infostatsystems.com (Charlotte Foust)
Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2005 14:58:22 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Print To Picture
Message-ID: <E61FC1D4B1918244905B113C680BEA86873AAC@infoserver01.infostat.local>

LOL!  Just find any invalid link.

Charlotte Foust


-----Original Message-----
From: Jim Hewson [mailto:JHewson at karta.com] 
Sent: Thursday, June 16, 2005 2:51 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Print To Picture


Sounds like a useful tool.
I've never heard of 404.  I'd like to be able to get it. Thanks, Jim 

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Rocky Smolin
- Beach Access Software
Sent: Thursday, June 16, 2005 4:44 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Print To Picture

Never mind.  Found the .exe on my old machine.  But the original link is
404.  So if anyone wants it, I've got it.

Rocky

----- Original Message -----
From: "Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software" <bchacc at san.rr.com>
To: <AccessD at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Thursday, June 16, 2005 2:18 PM
Subject: [AccessD] Print To Picture


Dear List:

I have a great utility on my old machine called print to picture.
Installs 
like a printer and will print to a file which you can then copy into a
word 
doc.  I need it on my new machine but can't find it anymore.  Anyone
know 
where it is?

TIA,

Rocky Smolin
Beach Access Software
http://www.e-z-mrp.com
858-259-4334
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From dejpolsys at hotmail.com  Thu Jun 16 17:01:45 2005
From: dejpolsys at hotmail.com (William Hindman)
Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2005 18:01:45 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Print To Picture
References: <9C382E065F54AE48BC3AA7925DCBB01C0362957B@karta-exc-int.Karta.com>
Message-ID: <BAY103-DAV22EF9AB0C5CC2169B84B9AEF50@phx.gbl>

..never heard of 404? ...lucky man! :)

William
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Jim Hewson" <JHewson at karta.com>
To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving" 
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Thursday, June 16, 2005 5:50 PM
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Print To Picture


> Sounds like a useful tool.
> I've never heard of 404.  I'd like to be able to get it.
> Thanks,
> Jim
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Rocky Smolin
> - Beach Access Software
> Sent: Thursday, June 16, 2005 4:44 PM
> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] Print To Picture
>
> Never mind.  Found the .exe on my old machine.  But the original link is
> 404.  So if anyone wants it, I've got it.
>
> Rocky
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software" <bchacc at san.rr.com>
> To: <AccessD at databaseadvisors.com>
> Sent: Thursday, June 16, 2005 2:18 PM
> Subject: [AccessD] Print To Picture
>
>
> Dear List:
>
> I have a great utility on my old machine called print to picture.
> Installs
> like a printer and will print to a file which you can then copy into a
> word
> doc.  I need it on my new machine but can't find it anymore.  Anyone
> know
> where it is?
>
> TIA,
>
> Rocky Smolin
> Beach Access Software
> http://www.e-z-mrp.com
> 858-259-4334
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From bchacc at san.rr.com  Thu Jun 16 17:17:13 2005
From: bchacc at san.rr.com (Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software)
Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2005 15:17:13 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Print To Picture
References: <9C382E065F54AE48BC3AA7925DCBB01C0362957B@karta-exc-int.Karta.com>
Message-ID: <0d9301c572c1$25a56ca0$6801a8c0@HAL9004>

404 means a broken link.  I'll send it to you off line, however.  It's from 
a Russian guy who apparently has taken his site down.  It installs like a 
printer and when you print to it it produces either a .PCX or .BMP format 
which you can insert into a word doc.  I used it to put sample reports into 
a manual.

Regards,

Rocky Smolin
Beach Access Software
http://www.e-z-mrp.com
858-259-4334

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Jim Hewson" <JHewson at karta.com>
To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving" 
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Thursday, June 16, 2005 2:50 PM
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Print To Picture


> Sounds like a useful tool.
> I've never heard of 404.  I'd like to be able to get it.
> Thanks,
> Jim
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Rocky Smolin
> - Beach Access Software
> Sent: Thursday, June 16, 2005 4:44 PM
> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] Print To Picture
>
> Never mind.  Found the .exe on my old machine.  But the original link is
> 404.  So if anyone wants it, I've got it.
>
> Rocky
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software" <bchacc at san.rr.com>
> To: <AccessD at databaseadvisors.com>
> Sent: Thursday, June 16, 2005 2:18 PM
> Subject: [AccessD] Print To Picture
>
>
> Dear List:
>
> I have a great utility on my old machine called print to picture.
> Installs
> like a printer and will print to a file which you can then copy into a
> word
> doc.  I need it on my new machine but can't find it anymore.  Anyone
> know
> where it is?
>
> TIA,
>
> Rocky Smolin
> Beach Access Software
> http://www.e-z-mrp.com
> 858-259-4334
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From dmcafee at pacbell.net  Thu Jun 16 17:53:48 2005
From: dmcafee at pacbell.net (dmcafee at pacbell.net)
Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2005 15:53:48 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Print To Picture
In-Reply-To: <0d9301c572c1$25a56ca0$6801a8c0@HAL9004>
Message-ID: <KDEHKEMIOHGKCDHLPPLKOEFKFFAA.dmcafee@pacbell.net>

So it's easier to use than Alt+Print Screen and Ctrl+V?

I guess no editing.

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Rocky Smolin -
Beach Access Software
Sent: Thursday, June 16, 2005 3:17 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Print To Picture


404 means a broken link.  I'll send it to you off line, however.  It's from
a Russian guy who apparently has taken his site down.  It installs like a
printer and when you print to it it produces either a .PCX or .BMP format
which you can insert into a word doc.  I used it to put sample reports into
a manual.

Regards,

Rocky Smolin
Beach Access Software
http://www.e-z-mrp.com
858-259-4334

----- Original Message -----
From: "Jim Hewson" <JHewson at karta.com>
To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving"
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Thursday, June 16, 2005 2:50 PM
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Print To Picture


> Sounds like a useful tool.
> I've never heard of 404.  I'd like to be able to get it.
> Thanks,
> Jim
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Rocky Smolin
> - Beach Access Software
> Sent: Thursday, June 16, 2005 4:44 PM
> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] Print To Picture
>
> Never mind.  Found the .exe on my old machine.  But the original link is
> 404.  So if anyone wants it, I've got it.
>
> Rocky
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software" <bchacc at san.rr.com>
> To: <AccessD at databaseadvisors.com>
> Sent: Thursday, June 16, 2005 2:18 PM
> Subject: [AccessD] Print To Picture
>
>
> Dear List:
>
> I have a great utility on my old machine called print to picture.
> Installs
> like a printer and will print to a file which you can then copy into a
> word
> doc.  I need it on my new machine but can't find it anymore.  Anyone
> know
> where it is?
>
> TIA,
>
> Rocky Smolin
> Beach Access Software
> http://www.e-z-mrp.com
> 858-259-4334
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From KP at sdsonline.net  Thu Jun 16 18:08:57 2005
From: KP at sdsonline.net (Kath Pelletti)
Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2005 09:08:57 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] Australia - find nearest location
References: <F2BE8EAB3EA585418337B71BCE6F3BF304EBBD@msmet100.rail.nsw.gov.au>
Message-ID: <003601c572c8$608df970$6601a8c0@user>

OK - thanks Bruce. At least I know not to waste my time trying that - and if client really wants it then I know to look further....
Kath
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Bruen, Bruce 
  To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving 
  Sent: Thursday, June 16, 2005 11:58 AM
  Subject: RE: [AccessD] Australia - find nearest location


  "Basically what I need to know is whether proximity in number =
  proximity in distance - I am guessing that it won't always be the
  case..."

  You have guessed correctly.  It wont work, a) the original postcodes
  were allocated as a loose function of distance from the mail clearance
  centre - (way back in the 60's??)
  b)since then new codes have been allocated and old ones modified and
  reallocated under a series of illogic that thoroughly eliminates any
  possibility of determining relative geographic co-ordinates across
  Australia.  However, there is a correlation between a postcode and a
  thing, IIRC, a mail delivery point (which in some cases goes down to a
  building or even a location within a building.) APO has occassionally
  published this database but I haven't seen or had any use for it for
  over 4 years - so I've lost the access to it.

  Sensis, yahoo/local and even the website that lists your company have
  functionality that provides this type of lookup but I'm d*mned if I know
  how they do it.

  regards
  bruce


  -----Original Message-----
  From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
  [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Kath Pelletti
  Sent: Tuesday, 14 June 2005 7:06 PM
  To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
  Subject: Re: [AccessD] Australia - find nearest location

  Thanks Michael - I think I need to learn about the way / rules that
  postcodes are allocated in my region - that way I may be able to create
  some sort of process. Just thought someone may have looked into that
  before.

  Basically what I need to know is whether proximity in number = proximity
  in distance - I am guessing that it won't always be the case...

  Kath


  ----- Original Message -----
    From: Michael Maddison
    To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
    Sent: Friday, June 10, 2005 10:48 AM
    Subject: RE: [AccessD] Australia - find nearest location


    Never tried myself, but the discussions here recently on MapPoint
  might
    lead the way.

    cheers

    Michael M

    Hi all - Just wondering whether there happens to be anyone on list who
    may already have done this - 

    I'm writing a new system for a training company and they want add a
    geographic search capability - ie. they would like to enter a suburb
  or
    postcode and the system displays will show the courses which run
  closest
    to them geographically.

    Any tips? Or if anyone has done this at all - can you tell me what
  your
    approach was?

    Thanks - rgds

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    Fax: 9505-6430
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From martyconnelly at shaw.ca  Thu Jun 16 18:50:56 2005
From: martyconnelly at shaw.ca (MartyConnelly)
Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2005 16:50:56 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Australia - find nearest location
References: <F2BE8EAB3EA585418337B71BCE6F3BF304EBBD@msmet100.rail.nsw.gov.au>
	<003601c572c8$608df970$6601a8c0@user>
Message-ID: <42B21060.6070003@shaw.ca>

Same thing in Canada. The post office wil provide a new postal code to a 
recently completed building complex.
However the do have a database that is purchaseable that will give the 
geo coordinates of the postal code
either to the building or the block face centroid.
Except for Santa Claus's postal code H0H0H0 and the geo centroid is sort 
of obvious.

Kath Pelletti wrote:

>OK - thanks Bruce. At least I know not to waste my time trying that - and if client really wants it then I know to look further....
>Kath
>  ----- Original Message ----- 
>  From: Bruen, Bruce 
>  To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving 
>  Sent: Thursday, June 16, 2005 11:58 AM
>  Subject: RE: [AccessD] Australia - find nearest location
>
>
>  "Basically what I need to know is whether proximity in number =
>  proximity in distance - I am guessing that it won't always be the
>  case..."
>
>  You have guessed correctly.  It wont work, a) the original postcodes
>  were allocated as a loose function of distance from the mail clearance
>  centre - (way back in the 60's??)
>  b)since then new codes have been allocated and old ones modified and
>  reallocated under a series of illogic that thoroughly eliminates any
>  possibility of determining relative geographic co-ordinates across
>  Australia.  However, there is a correlation between a postcode and a
>  thing, IIRC, a mail delivery point (which in some cases goes down to a
>  building or even a location within a building.) APO has occassionally
>  published this database but I haven't seen or had any use for it for
>  over 4 years - so I've lost the access to it.
>
>  Sensis, yahoo/local and even the website that lists your company have
>  functionality that provides this type of lookup but I'm d*mned if I know
>  how they do it.
>
>  regards
>  bruce
>
>
>  -----Original Message-----
>  From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>  [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Kath Pelletti
>  Sent: Tuesday, 14 June 2005 7:06 PM
>  To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
>  Subject: Re: [AccessD] Australia - find nearest location
>
>  Thanks Michael - I think I need to learn about the way / rules that
>  postcodes are allocated in my region - that way I may be able to create
>  some sort of process. Just thought someone may have looked into that
>  before.
>
>  Basically what I need to know is whether proximity in number = proximity
>  in distance - I am guessing that it won't always be the case...
>
>  Kath
>
>
>  ----- Original Message -----
>    From: Michael Maddison
>    To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
>    Sent: Friday, June 10, 2005 10:48 AM
>    Subject: RE: [AccessD] Australia - find nearest location
>
>
>    Never tried myself, but the discussions here recently on MapPoint
>  might
>    lead the way.
>
>    cheers
>
>    Michael M
>
>    Hi all - Just wondering whether there happens to be anyone on list who
>    may already have done this - 
>
>    I'm writing a new system for a training company and they want add a
>    geographic search capability - ie. they would like to enter a suburb
>  or
>    postcode and the system displays will show the courses which run
>  closest
>    to them geographically.
>
>    Any tips? Or if anyone has done this at all - can you tell me what
>  your
>    approach was?
>
>    Thanks - rgds
>
>    ______________________________________________
>    Kath Pelletti
>    Software Design & Solutions Pty Ltd.
>    Ph: 9505-6714
>    Fax: 9505-6430
>    KP at SDSOnline.net
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From bchacc at san.rr.com  Thu Jun 16 19:54:59 2005
From: bchacc at san.rr.com (Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software)
Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2005 17:54:59 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Print To Picture
References: <KDEHKEMIOHGKCDHLPPLKOEFKFFAA.dmcafee@pacbell.net>
Message-ID: <0e3801c572d7$2fffb730$6801a8c0@HAL9004>

I found that a screen print image was limited to the resolution of the 
screen.  Copying a full page of a report from the screen just didn't provide 
the detail needed. Alt+Print Screen and Ctrl+V works good for dropping forms 
shots into a word doc.

Rocky

----- Original Message ----- 
From: <dmcafee at pacbell.net>
To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving" 
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Thursday, June 16, 2005 3:53 PM
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Print To Picture


> So it's easier to use than Alt+Print Screen and Ctrl+V?
>
> I guess no editing.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Rocky Smolin -
> Beach Access Software
> Sent: Thursday, June 16, 2005 3:17 PM
> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] Print To Picture
>
>
> 404 means a broken link.  I'll send it to you off line, however.  It's 
> from
> a Russian guy who apparently has taken his site down.  It installs like a
> printer and when you print to it it produces either a .PCX or .BMP format
> which you can insert into a word doc.  I used it to put sample reports 
> into
> a manual.
>
> Regards,
>
> Rocky Smolin
> Beach Access Software
> http://www.e-z-mrp.com
> 858-259-4334
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Jim Hewson" <JHewson at karta.com>
> To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving"
> <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
> Sent: Thursday, June 16, 2005 2:50 PM
> Subject: RE: [AccessD] Print To Picture
>
>
>> Sounds like a useful tool.
>> I've never heard of 404.  I'd like to be able to get it.
>> Thanks,
>> Jim
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Rocky Smolin
>> - Beach Access Software
>> Sent: Thursday, June 16, 2005 4:44 PM
>> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
>> Subject: Re: [AccessD] Print To Picture
>>
>> Never mind.  Found the .exe on my old machine.  But the original link is
>> 404.  So if anyone wants it, I've got it.
>>
>> Rocky
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software" <bchacc at san.rr.com>
>> To: <AccessD at databaseadvisors.com>
>> Sent: Thursday, June 16, 2005 2:18 PM
>> Subject: [AccessD] Print To Picture
>>
>>
>> Dear List:
>>
>> I have a great utility on my old machine called print to picture.
>> Installs
>> like a printer and will print to a file which you can then copy into a
>> word
>> doc.  I need it on my new machine but can't find it anymore.  Anyone
>> know
>> where it is?
>>
>> TIA,
>>
>> Rocky Smolin
>> Beach Access Software
>> http://www.e-z-mrp.com
>> 858-259-4334
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From artful at rogers.com  Thu Jun 16 21:31:06 2005
From: artful at rogers.com (Arthur Fuller)
Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2005 22:31:06 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Question about Animated Graphics
In-Reply-To: <0e3801c572d7$2fffb730$6801a8c0@HAL9004>
Message-ID: <200506170231.j5H2V2R21831@databaseadvisors.com>

I found some cool graphics appropriate to an app I'm building now, but so
far I can't make them work correctly. For a peek at the graphics, see
http://www.animation-central.com/gears.htm. The graphics there move. When I
download one graphic and drop it on an Access form, it's static not
animated. I want the animation! How do I achieve this?

TIA,
Arthur



From Bruce.Bruen at railcorp.nsw.gov.au  Thu Jun 16 21:38:19 2005
From: Bruce.Bruen at railcorp.nsw.gov.au (Bruen, Bruce)
Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2005 12:38:19 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] Question about Animated Graphics
Message-ID: <F2BE8EAB3EA585418337B71BCE6F3BF304EBC0@msmet100.rail.nsw.gov.au>

Arthur,

AFAIK you can't.  I tried this about two years ago.  It seems that the
screen representation of the object you embed is NOT the same as the
screen representation provided by the explorer base window.  i.e. Access
does not use the windows natives to render the things.

Someone else may have other opinions though.

bruce

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Sent: Friday, 17 June 2005 12:31 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] Question about Animated Graphics

I found some cool graphics appropriate to an app I'm building now, but
so far I can't make them work correctly. For a peek at the graphics, see
http://www.animation-central.com/gears.htm. The graphics there move.
When I download one graphic and drop it on an Access form, it's static
not animated. I want the animation! How do I achieve this?

TIA,
Arthur

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From dejpolsys at hotmail.com  Thu Jun 16 21:51:44 2005
From: dejpolsys at hotmail.com (William Hindman)
Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2005 22:51:44 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Question about Animated Graphics
References: <200506170231.j5H2V2R21831@databaseadvisors.com>
Message-ID: <BAY103-DAV17F65C4D9BA3B4E1C120E8AEF40@phx.gbl>

http://www.lebans.com/animatedgifplayer.htm
..hth :)

William
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Sent: Thursday, June 16, 2005 10:31 PM
Subject: [AccessD] Question about Animated Graphics


>I found some cool graphics appropriate to an app I'm building now, but so
> far I can't make them work correctly. For a peek at the graphics, see
> http://www.animation-central.com/gears.htm. The graphics there move. When 
> I
> download one graphic and drop it on an Access form, it's static not
> animated. I want the animation! How do I achieve this?
>
> TIA,
> Arthur
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From martyconnelly at shaw.ca  Fri Jun 17 00:22:46 2005
From: martyconnelly at shaw.ca (MartyConnelly)
Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2005 22:22:46 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Print To Picture
References: <KDEHKEMIOHGKCDHLPPLKOEFKFFAA.dmcafee@pacbell.net>
	<0e3801c572d7$2fffb730$6801a8c0@HAL9004>
Message-ID: <42B25E26.905@shaw.ca>

 You could use some rough code like this to snapshot either screen or 
form to the clipboard
and then dump clipboard  into word, I think it is all there.

Option Compare Database
Option Explicit

'_______________________________________________________
' Snap a picture of the screen and send error messages,
'  screen picture and tasklist to a word document
'________________________________________________________

Private Const VK_LWIN = &H5B 'Left window button
Private Const VK_RETURN = &HD  'ENTER key
Private Const VK_SHIFT = &H10 'SHIFT key
Private Const VK_CONTROL = &H11 'CTRL key
Private Const VK_MENU = &H12 'ALT key
Private Const VK_PAUSE = &H13 'PAUSE key
Private Const VK_CAPITAL = &H14 'CAPS LOCK key
Private Const VK_SNAPSHOT = &H2C  'Print Screen
Private Const VK_APPS = &H5D
         'Applications key on a Microsoft Natural Keyboard
'from http://support.microsoft.com/view/dev.asp?kb=242971

Const GW_HWNDFIRST = 0
Const GW_HWNDNEXT = 2
Private Const KEYEVENTF_KEYUP = &H2

Private Declare Sub keybd_event Lib "user32" (ByVal bVk As Byte, _
    ByVal bScan As Byte, ByVal dwflags As Long, ByVal dwExtraInfo As Long)
Private Declare Function GetWindow Lib "user32" _
   (ByVal hWnd As Long, ByVal wCmd As Long) As Long
Private Declare Function GetParent Lib "user32" _
   (ByVal hWnd As Long) As Long
Private Declare Function GetWindowTextLength Lib _
   "user32" Alias "GetWindowTextLengthA" (ByVal hWnd As Long) As Long
Private Declare Function GetWindowText Lib "user32" _
   Alias "GetWindowTextA" (ByVal hWnd As Long, ByVal _
   lpString As String, ByVal cch As Long) As Long
Private Declare Function FindWindow Lib "user32" Alias "FindWindowA" _
   (ByVal lpClassName As String, ByVal lpWindowName As String) As Long
Private Declare Function SetFocusAPI Lib "user32" Alias "SetFocus" _
   (ByVal hWnd As Long) As Long

Sub ErrorScreenReport()
'turn on reference to Microsoft Word Object Library
  SnapPrintScreen
  'SnapPrintForm
  ErrorReportToWord
End Sub

 Sub ErrorReportToWord()
 Dim ObjWord As Word.Application
    Dim temp As String
    Dim strFileName As String
    Dim strErrDesc As String
    Dim strLoadTaskList As String
    Dim appPathAccess As String
    '  grab the Task List
    strLoadTaskList = LoadTaskList()
   ' On Error Resume Next

   Set ObjWord = New Word.Application
'   Disable command button to prevent object being recreated
'   If you have an error in here, it will litter memory with copies of word
'   so put in error handling

     ObjWord.Documents.Add
     ObjWord.Selection.Paste 'copy clipboard

strErrDesc = "Error No: " & Err.Number & "; Description: " & Err.Description
    'no range selected so text placed at end of document
      ObjWord.Application.Selection.Font.Size = 14
      ObjWord.Application.Selection.Font.Bold = True
      strErrDesc = strErrDesc & " Module name = ..." & vbCrLf & vbCrLf
       ObjWord.Application.Selection.Font.Size = 10
      ObjWord.Application.Selection.Font.Bold = True
      strErrDesc = strErrDesc & strLoadTaskList
    ObjWord.ActiveDocument.Content.InsertAfter Text:=strErrDesc

'   Saves report with a new filename
'   Name of report file, change path to whatever is applicable
      appPathAccess = CurrentDBDir
      strFileName = appPathAccess & "ErrorReport"
      strFileName = strFileName & Format(Now, "yyyymmddhhmmss") & ".doc"

    ObjWord.ActiveDocument.SaveAs (strFileName)
'   Quit Word
    ObjWord.Documents.Close
    ObjWord.Quit
'   Inform user that report is created
    MsgBox "Error Report Created in File" & vbCrLf & strFileName
'   Clear our pointer to word
    Set ObjWord = Nothing
End Sub


'Determining Which Tasks Are Running

'With the Microsoft Windows operating system,
'you can run any number of applications simultaneously.
'Occasionally, you may need to determine which tasks are currently being
'run.
'This can be accomplished by using several Windows application programming
'interface
'(API) functions.
'To find the names of all currently executing tasks,
'you must first determine the handle of the window that is currently
'at the top of the z-order. This, of course, would be the window of your
'own Microsoft Visual Basic application.
'You can use the Windows API GetWindow function to retrieve the handle
'of your application's window with the statement:

'    CurrWnd = GetWindow(Form1.hwnd, GW_HWNDFIRST)
' To use in Access replace with the following
'     parent_hwnd = FindWindow(vbNullString, "Microsoft Access")
'The first argument of the GetWindow function is the handle of the window
'that is at the top of the z-order. In this case, this is the handle of
'Form1.

'The second argument of the GetWindow function specifies the window
'you want to retrieve the handle for.
'This argument can have one of the following values:

'  GW_CHILD Retrieve the handle for the child window.
'  GW_HWNDFIRST Retrieve the handle for the window at the top of the z-
'order.
'  GW_HWNDLAST Retrieve the handle for the window at the bottom of the z-
'order.
'  GW_HWNDNEXT Retrieve the handle of the window below the specified window
'in the z-order.
'  GW_HWNDPREV Retrieve the handle of the window above the specified window
'in the z-order.
'  GW_OWNER Retrieve the handle of the window that owns the specified
'window, if any.

'After you have retrieved the application's window handle,
'you can use the Windows API GetParent function to retrieve this window's
'child window handle. Next, you call the Windows API GetWindowText and
'GetWindowTextLength functions to retrieve the text in the window's title
'bar
'and the length of this text, respectively. You can then use the text string
'in your own application. For example, you can save the title bar text
'to a List Box control.

'All of the above steps are repeated until you have processed all running
'tasks.
'You know that you have gone through each task when the current window is
'that'of your own application.


Function LoadTaskList() As String
Dim CurrWnd As Long
Dim Length As Long
Dim TaskName As String
Dim Parent As Long
Dim parent_hwnd As Long
Dim strMyTaskList As String
  strMyTaskList = " Task List " & vbCrLf

' This line below works from VB form
'CurrWnd = GetWindow(Form1.hwnd, GW_HWNDFIRST)
' get Parent Window Handle
     parent_hwnd = FindWindow(vbNullString, "Microsoft Access")
    If parent_hwnd = 0 Then
     MsgBox "Access Not Found"
      Exit Function
     End If
      'SetFocusAPI parent_hwnd
       CurrWnd = parent_hwnd
While CurrWnd <> 0
  Parent = GetParent(CurrWnd)
  Length = GetWindowTextLength(CurrWnd)
  TaskName = Space$(Length + 1)
  Length = GetWindowText(CurrWnd, TaskName, Length + 1)
  TaskName = Left$(TaskName, Len(TaskName) - 1)

  If Length > 0 Then
  'If TaskName <> Me.Caption Then
  'If TaskName <> "Microsoft Access" Then
     'List1.AddItem TaskName
     strMyTaskList = strMyTaskList & TaskName & vbCrLf
     Debug.Print TaskName
   'End If
  End If
  CurrWnd = GetWindow(CurrWnd, GW_HWNDNEXT)

    DoEvents
Wend
LoadTaskList = strMyTaskList
End Function
'
Function CurrentDBDir() As String
' get Current Database Path string
Dim strDBPath As String
Dim strDBFile As String
    strDBPath = CurrentDb.Name
    strDBFile = Dir(strDBPath)
    CurrentDBDir = Left(strDBPath, Len(strDBPath) - Len(strDBFile))
End Function
Option Compare Database
Option Explicit

'_______________________________________________________
' Snap a picture of the screen and send error messages,
'  screen picture and tasklist to a word document
'________________________________________________________

Private Const VK_LWIN = &H5B 'Left window button
Private Const VK_RETURN = &HD  'ENTER key
Private Const VK_SHIFT = &H10 'SHIFT key
Private Const VK_CONTROL = &H11 'CTRL key
Private Const VK_MENU = &H12 'ALT key
Private Const VK_PAUSE = &H13 'PAUSE key
Private Const VK_CAPITAL = &H14 'CAPS LOCK key
Private Const VK_SNAPSHOT = &H2C  'Print Screen
Private Const VK_APPS = &H5D
         'Applications key on a Microsoft Natural Keyboard
'from http://support.microsoft.com/view/dev.asp?kb=242971

Const GW_HWNDFIRST = 0
Const GW_HWNDNEXT = 2
Private Const KEYEVENTF_KEYUP = &H2

Private Declare Sub keybd_event Lib "user32" (ByVal bVk As Byte, _
    ByVal bScan As Byte, ByVal dwflags As Long, ByVal dwExtraInfo As Long)
Private Declare Function GetWindow Lib "user32" _
   (ByVal hWnd As Long, ByVal wCmd As Long) As Long
Private Declare Function GetParent Lib "user32" _
   (ByVal hWnd As Long) As Long
Private Declare Function GetWindowTextLength Lib _
   "user32" Alias "GetWindowTextLengthA" (ByVal hWnd As Long) As Long
Private Declare Function GetWindowText Lib "user32" _
   Alias "GetWindowTextA" (ByVal hWnd As Long, ByVal _
   lpString As String, ByVal cch As Long) As Long
Private Declare Function FindWindow Lib "user32" Alias "FindWindowA" _
   (ByVal lpClassName As String, ByVal lpWindowName As String) As Long
Private Declare Function SetFocusAPI Lib "user32" Alias "SetFocus" _
   (ByVal hWnd As Long) As Long

Sub OpenWindowsHelp()
' Open the Windows Help
'
' You can use the same technique to programmatically "press" any other
' key, including Shift, Ctrl, Alt and keys combinations that can't be
' simulated through SendKeys
    ' programmatically press the Windows key
    keybd_event VK_LWIN, 0, 0, 0
    ' then press and then release the F1 key
    keybd_event vbKeyF1, 0, 0, 0
    keybd_event vbKeyF1, 0, KEYEVENTF_KEYUP, 0
    ' and finally release the Windows Key
    keybd_event VK_LWIN, 0, KEYEVENTF_KEYUP, 0
End Sub
Sub CloseAllWindows()
' Minimize all open windows
'Const acaltMask
    ' programmatically press the Windows key
    keybd_event VK_LWIN, 0, 0, 0
    ' then press and then release the M key
    keybd_event vbKeyM, 0, 0, 0
    keybd_event vbKeyM, 0, KEYEVENTF_KEYUP, 0
    ' and finally release the Windows Key
    keybd_event VK_LWIN, 0, KEYEVENTF_KEYUP, 0
End Sub
Sub SnapPrintForm()
'use the following code inside form or focused window
'to simulate the Alt / PrintScreen = key combination:
'If form popup in Access will capture form
' programmatically press the ALT key
  '  keybd_event VK_MENU, 0, 0, 0
     ' then press and then release the PrtScreen key
  keybd_event VK_SNAPSHOT, 1, 0, 0
  DoEvents
 '  keybd_event VK_SNAPSHOT, 0, KEYEVENTF_KEYUP, 0
  ' and finally release the ALT Key
  '  keybd_event VK_MENU, 0, KEYEVENTF_KEYUP, 0

End Sub
Sub SnapPrintScreen()
'To print the entire screen (rather than the current focused window
 'programmatically press the ALT key
    'keybd_event VK_MENU, 0, 0, 0
     ' then press and then release the PrtScreen key
    keybd_event VK_SNAPSHOT, 0, 0, 0
    DoEvents
    'keybd_event VK_SNAPSHOT, 0, KEYEVENTF_KEYUP, 0
  ' and finally release the ALT Key
    'keybd_event VK_MENU, 0, KEYEVENTF_KEYUP, 0
' The second argument for the keybd_event call is the hardware scan code,
' and, in this case, you could use the value 1. This may have to change
' with Win 2000
' However, applications should not use this scan code according to Microsoft
' The screen is now captured in the clipboard as a bmp
End Sub





Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software wrote:

> I found that a screen print image was limited to the resolution of the 
> screen.  Copying a full page of a report from the screen just didn't 
> provide the detail needed. Alt+Print Screen and Ctrl+V works good for 
> dropping forms shots into a word doc.
>
> Rocky
>
> ----- Original Message ----- From: <dmcafee at pacbell.net>
> To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving" 
> <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
> Sent: Thursday, June 16, 2005 3:53 PM
> Subject: RE: [AccessD] Print To Picture
>
>
>> So it's easier to use than Alt+Print Screen and Ctrl+V?
>>
>> I guess no editing.
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Rocky Smolin -
>> Beach Access Software
>> Sent: Thursday, June 16, 2005 3:17 PM
>> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
>> Subject: Re: [AccessD] Print To Picture
>>
>>
>> 404 means a broken link.  I'll send it to you off line, however.  
>> It's from
>> a Russian guy who apparently has taken his site down.  It installs 
>> like a
>> printer and when you print to it it produces either a .PCX or .BMP 
>> format
>> which you can insert into a word doc.  I used it to put sample 
>> reports into
>> a manual.
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Rocky Smolin
>> Beach Access Software
>> http://www.e-z-mrp.com
>> 858-259-4334
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Jim Hewson" <JHewson at karta.com>
>> To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving"
>> <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
>> Sent: Thursday, June 16, 2005 2:50 PM
>> Subject: RE: [AccessD] Print To Picture
>>
>>
>>> Sounds like a useful tool.
>>> I've never heard of 404.  I'd like to be able to get it.
>>> Thanks,
>>> Jim
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>>> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Rocky Smolin
>>> - Beach Access Software
>>> Sent: Thursday, June 16, 2005 4:44 PM
>>> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
>>> Subject: Re: [AccessD] Print To Picture
>>>
>>> Never mind.  Found the .exe on my old machine.  But the original 
>>> link is
>>> 404.  So if anyone wants it, I've got it.
>>>
>>> Rocky
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software" <bchacc at san.rr.com>
>>> To: <AccessD at databaseadvisors.com>
>>> Sent: Thursday, June 16, 2005 2:18 PM
>>> Subject: [AccessD] Print To Picture
>>>
>>>
>>> Dear List:
>>>
>>> I have a great utility on my old machine called print to picture.
>>> Installs
>>> like a printer and will print to a file which you can then copy into a
>>> word
>>> doc.  I need it on my new machine but can't find it anymore.  Anyone
>>> know
>>> where it is?
>>>
>>> TIA,
>>>
>>> Rocky Smolin
>>> Beach Access Software
>>> http://www.e-z-mrp.com
>>> 858-259-4334
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From Erwin.Craps at ithelps.be  Fri Jun 17 01:50:16 2005
From: Erwin.Craps at ithelps.be (Erwin Craps - IT Helps)
Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2005 08:50:16 +0200
Subject: [AccessD] Urgent help needed
	withIISserver.CreateObject("ADODB.Connection")
Message-ID: <46B976F2B698FF46A4FE7636509B22DF1B5C8F@stekelbes.ithelps.local>

Noop, Doesnt solve the problem.
Already added those.

Problem is persistent..
  

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Verzonden: donderdag 16 juni 2005 17:07
Aan: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Onderwerp: RE: [AccessD] Urgent help needed
withIISserver.CreateObject("ADODB.Connection")

Hi Erwin:

Have you seen this article from MS?
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/198432/EN-US/

<Microsoft>
Solution:
You need to give the IUSR_<machine_name> account permissions to launch
and access your OOP COM object using dcomcnfg by doing the following: 
1. Launch DCOMCNFG by clicking the Start button, selecting Run, and
typing "Dcomcnfg" in the Run dialog box.  
2. In the Default Security tab, click the "Edit Default" in the "Default
Access Permissions" frame. The Registry Value Permissions dialog box
appears.  
3. Add the IUSR_<machine_name>account and the INTERACTIVE account to the
Registry Value Permissions dialog box, and click OK. 
4. In the Default Security tab, click the Edit Default in the Default
Launch Permissions frame. The Registry Value Permissions dialog box
appears.  
5. Add the IUSR_<machine_name> account to the Registry Value Permissions
dialog box0, and click OK.  
</Microsoft>

HTH
Jim

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Sent: Thursday, June 16, 2005 4:43 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: [AccessD] Urgent help needed with
IISserver.CreateObject("ADODB.Connection")
Importance: High

 
I'm getting desperate over here.
 
Yesterday I installed this mont security fixes on my W2K server.
I also took the opportunity to install SQL SP4.
 
>From that reboot on, non of my database driven website no longer
functions.
 
For both "JET 4 MDB" and "SQL server" access I get an error on this
command where it always used to work before the updates. 
failing command server.CreateObject("ADODB.Connection")
Retunred error
Server object error 'ASP 0178 : 80070005' 
Server.CreateObject Access Error
The call to Server.CreateObject failed while checking permissions.
Access is denied to this object. 
 

 

I checked al my NTFS permissons according to the MSKB, but I believe
everything is ok.

Anyway, it worked for years before this update.

 

Is this a bug in the windows fiexes????

 

 

 

Erwin Craps

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From paul.hartland at fsmail.net  Fri Jun 17 06:42:50 2005
From: paul.hartland at fsmail.net (paul.hartland at fsmail.net)
Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2005 13:42:50 +0200 (CEST)
Subject: [AccessD] OT - Visual Basic 6.0 - Is Form Open
Message-ID: <10661170.1119008570079.JavaMail.www@wwinf3001>

To all,

Does anyone know how to find out if a form is open in a Visual Basic 6.0 application ?

Thanks in advance for any help on this.

Paul Hartland
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From accessd666 at yahoo.com  Fri Jun 17 07:00:33 2005
From: accessd666 at yahoo.com (Sad Der)
Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2005 05:00:33 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [AccessD] Query: Filter date column on year
Message-ID: <20050617120033.81643.qmail@web31609.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Hi group,

I've got a query with a date field in it. Values are
formatted like:
mm-dd-yyyy

I want to retrieve all values equal to a certain year.
With what statement can I do this?

TIA

SD


		
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From JHewson at karta.com  Fri Jun 17 07:13:58 2005
From: JHewson at karta.com (Jim Hewson)
Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2005 07:13:58 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Print To Picture
Message-ID: <9C382E065F54AE48BC3AA7925DCBB01C036295AC@karta-exc-int.Karta.com>


I've heard of THAT 404.  I wasn't thinking of a broken link....
Geez, I thought of a website like www.404.com .... Which is actually a
valid website.
Never mind.
Jim

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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of William
Hindman
Sent: Thursday, June 16, 2005 5:02 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Print To Picture

..never heard of 404? ...lucky man! :)

William
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jim Hewson" <JHewson at karta.com>
To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving" 
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Thursday, June 16, 2005 5:50 PM
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Print To Picture


> Sounds like a useful tool.
> I've never heard of 404.  I'd like to be able to get it.
> Thanks,
> Jim
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Rocky
Smolin
> - Beach Access Software
> Sent: Thursday, June 16, 2005 4:44 PM
> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] Print To Picture
>
> Never mind.  Found the .exe on my old machine.  But the original link
is
> 404.  So if anyone wants it, I've got it.
>
> Rocky
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software" <bchacc at san.rr.com>
> To: <AccessD at databaseadvisors.com>
> Sent: Thursday, June 16, 2005 2:18 PM
> Subject: [AccessD] Print To Picture
>
>
> Dear List:
>
> I have a great utility on my old machine called print to picture.
> Installs
> like a printer and will print to a file which you can then copy into a
> word
> doc.  I need it on my new machine but can't find it anymore.  Anyone
> know
> where it is?
>
> TIA,
>
> Rocky Smolin
> Beach Access Software
> http://www.e-z-mrp.com
> 858-259-4334
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From DElam at jenkens.com  Fri Jun 17 07:24:19 2005
From: DElam at jenkens.com (Elam, Debbie)
Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2005 07:24:19 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Query: Filter date column on year
Message-ID: <7B1961ED924D1A459E378C9B1BB22B4C0492C9C4@natexch.jenkens.com>

Where DatePart('yyyy',[DateField]) = 2005

Debbie

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Sent: Friday, June 17, 2005 7:01 AM
To: Acces User Group
Subject: [AccessD] Query: Filter date column on year


Hi group,

I've got a query with a date field in it. Values are
formatted like:
mm-dd-yyyy

I want to retrieve all values equal to a certain year.
With what statement can I do this?

TIA

SD


		
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From bheid at appdevgrp.com  Fri Jun 17 07:47:49 2005
From: bheid at appdevgrp.com (Bobby Heid)
Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2005 08:47:49 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Question about Animated Graphics
In-Reply-To: <916187228923D311A6FE00A0CC3FAA30BECDBC@ADGSERVER>
Message-ID: <916187228923D311A6FE00A0CC3FAA30ABEC3F@ADGSERVER>

Those are animated Gif files which are not supported in Access (well at
least version 2000 and less).  I think that there are some 3rd-party
controls that will let you host an animated Gif.

Bobby

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[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Arthur Fuller
Sent: Thursday, June 16, 2005 10:31 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] Question about Animated Graphics


I found some cool graphics appropriate to an app I'm building now, but so
far I can't make them work correctly. For a peek at the graphics, see
http://www.animation-central.com/gears.htm. The graphics there move. When I
download one graphic and drop it on an Access form, it's static not
animated. I want the animation! How do I achieve this?

TIA,
Arthur



From R.Griffiths at bury.gov.uk  Fri Jun 17 07:56:19 2005
From: R.Griffiths at bury.gov.uk (Griffiths, Richard)
Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2005 13:56:19 +0100
Subject: [AccessD] OT - Visual Basic 6.0 - Is Form Open
Message-ID: <200506171247.j5HClmA19797@smarthost.yourcomms.net>

Maybe this


Private Sub Form_Load()

If IsLoaded("Form1") = True Then
MsgBox "Yep, loaded"
End If

End Sub

Private Function IsLoaded(ByVal FormName As String) As Boolean

Dim f As Form

'check all open forms
For Each f In Forms

If f.Name = FormName Then

'yep, form is loaded
IsLoaded = True

'no need to loop again...
Exit For

End If

Next ' f

End Function

Richard

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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
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paul.hartland at fsmail.net
Sent: 17 June 2005 12:43
To: accessd
Subject: [AccessD] OT - Visual Basic 6.0 - Is Form Open


To all,

Does anyone know how to find out if a form is open in a Visual Basic 6.0
application ?

Thanks in advance for any help on this.

Paul Hartland
Database Developer

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From paul.hartland at isharp.co.uk  Fri Jun 17 08:09:07 2005
From: paul.hartland at isharp.co.uk (Paul Hartland (ISHARP))
Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2005 14:09:07 +0100
Subject: [AccessD] OT - Visual Basic 6.0 - Is Form Open
In-Reply-To: <200506171247.j5HClmA19797@smarthost.yourcomms.net>
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Thanks, works a treat.....

Hope I can help out sometime

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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Griffiths,
Richard
Sent: 17 June 2005 13:56
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] OT - Visual Basic 6.0 - Is Form Open

Maybe this


Private Sub Form_Load()

If IsLoaded("Form1") = True Then
MsgBox "Yep, loaded"
End If

End Sub

Private Function IsLoaded(ByVal FormName As String) As Boolean

Dim f As Form

'check all open forms
For Each f In Forms

If f.Name = FormName Then

'yep, form is loaded
IsLoaded = True

'no need to loop again...
Exit For

End If

Next ' f

End Function

Richard

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paul.hartland at fsmail.net
Sent: 17 June 2005 12:43
To: accessd
Subject: [AccessD] OT - Visual Basic 6.0 - Is Form Open


To all,

Does anyone know how to find out if a form is open in a Visual Basic 6.0
application ?

Thanks in advance for any help on this.

Paul Hartland
Database Developer

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From accessd666 at yahoo.com  Fri Jun 17 08:21:54 2005
From: accessd666 at yahoo.com (Sad Der)
Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2005 06:21:54 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [AccessD] Query: Filter date column on year SOLVED!
In-Reply-To: <7B1961ED924D1A459E378C9B1BB22B4C0492C9C4@natexch.jenkens.com>
Message-ID: <20050617132154.92793.qmail@web31611.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Thnx debbie!
Works like a charm.

Regards,

SD

--- "Elam, Debbie" <DElam at jenkens.com> wrote:

> Where DatePart('yyyy',[DateField]) = 2005
> 
> Debbie
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Sad Der [mailto:accessd666 at yahoo.com] 
> Sent: Friday, June 17, 2005 7:01 AM
> To: Acces User Group
> Subject: [AccessD] Query: Filter date column on year
> 
> 
> Hi group,
> 
> I've got a query with a date field in it. Values are
> formatted like:
> mm-dd-yyyy
> 
> I want to retrieve all values equal to a certain
> year.
> With what statement can I do this?
> 
> TIA
> 
> SD
> 
> 
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From paul.hartland at fsmail.net  Fri Jun 17 08:54:15 2005
From: paul.hartland at fsmail.net (paul.hartland at fsmail.net)
Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2005 15:54:15 +0200 (CEST)
Subject: [AccessD] Executing Internet Links From Within Access
Message-ID: <30349590.1119016455234.JavaMail.www@wwinf3001>

To all,

A friend of mine has a website which he has to go to everyday to exceute several other pages, would it be possible to insert these into an Access table and run some code which would trigger them ?

Thanks in advance for any help/sample code on this issue

Paul Hartland

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From martyconnelly at shaw.ca  Fri Jun 17 10:08:26 2005
From: martyconnelly at shaw.ca (MartyConnelly)
Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2005 08:08:26 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Executing Internet Links From Within Access
References: <30349590.1119016455234.JavaMail.www@wwinf3001>
Message-ID: <42B2E76A.5040205@shaw.ca>

Code below is easiest way otherwise you have to enter address in a 
hyperlink field of table
which requires a specific format  URL Name#URL address#subaddress
"My MS site"#"http://www.microsoft.com"#
Then you can assign this field to a clickable Label or TextBox

The following function prompts a user for a hyperlink address and then 
follows the hyperlink:
You could assign this function to a command button

Function GetUserAddress() As Boolean
    Dim strInput As String

    On Error GoTo Error_GetUserAddress
    strInput = InputBox("Enter a valid address")
    Application.FollowHyperlink strInput, , True
    GetUserAddress = True

Exit_GetUserAddress:
    Exit Function

Error_GetUserAddress:
    MsgBox Err & ": " & Err.Description
    GetUserAddress = False
    Resume Exit_GetUserAddress
End Function

paul.hartland at fsmail.net wrote:

>To all,
>
>A friend of mine has a website which he has to go to everyday to exceute several other pages, would it be possible to insert these into an Access table and run some code which would trigger them ?
>
>Thanks in advance for any help/sample code on this issue
>
>Paul Hartland
>
>  
>

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From paul.hartland at fsmail.net  Fri Jun 17 10:12:23 2005
From: paul.hartland at fsmail.net (paul.hartland at fsmail.net)
Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2005 17:12:23 +0200 (CEST)
Subject: [AccessD] Executing Internet Links From Within Access
Message-ID: <24451050.1119021143158.JavaMail.www@wwinf3102>


Thanks for that, will test it out after the weekend.




Message date : Jun 17 2005, 04:10 PM
>From : "MartyConnelly" 
To : "Access Developers discussion and problem solving" 
Copy to : 
Subject : Re: [AccessD] Executing Internet Links From Within Access
Code below is easiest way otherwise you have to enter address in a 
hyperlink field of table
which requires a specific format URL Name#URL address#subaddress
"My MS site"#"http://www.microsoft.com"#
Then you can assign this field to a clickable Label or TextBox

The following function prompts a user for a hyperlink address and then 
follows the hyperlink:
You could assign this function to a command button

Function GetUserAddress() As Boolean
Dim strInput As String

On Error GoTo Error_GetUserAddress
strInput = InputBox("Enter a valid address")
Application.FollowHyperlink strInput, , True
GetUserAddress = True

Exit_GetUserAddress:
Exit Function

Error_GetUserAddress:
MsgBox Err & ": " & Err.Description
GetUserAddress = False
Resume Exit_GetUserAddress
End Function

paul.hartland at fsmail.net wrote:

>To all,
>
>A friend of mine has a website which he has to go to everyday to exceute several other pages, would it be possible to insert these into an Access table and run some code which would trigger them ?
>
>Thanks in advance for any help/sample code on this issue
>
>Paul Hartland
>
> 
>

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From martyconnelly at shaw.ca  Fri Jun 17 10:26:18 2005
From: martyconnelly at shaw.ca (MartyConnelly)
Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2005 08:26:18 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Urgent help needed
	withIISserver.CreateObject("ADODB.Connection")
References: <46B976F2B698FF46A4FE7636509B22DF1B5C8F@stekelbes.ithelps.local>
Message-ID: <42B2EB9A.40209@shaw.ca>

Have you tried  filemon from sysinternals.com to trace the access 
permission error

Erwin Craps - IT Helps wrote:

>Noop, Doesnt solve the problem.
>Already added those.
>
>Problem is persistent..
>  
>
>-----Oorspronkelijk bericht-----
>Van: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] Namens Jim Lawrence
>Verzonden: donderdag 16 juni 2005 17:07
>Aan: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
>Onderwerp: RE: [AccessD] Urgent help needed
>withIISserver.CreateObject("ADODB.Connection")
>
>Hi Erwin:
>
>Have you seen this article from MS?
>http://support.microsoft.com/kb/198432/EN-US/
>
><Microsoft>
>Solution:
>You need to give the IUSR_<machine_name> account permissions to launch
>and access your OOP COM object using dcomcnfg by doing the following: 
>1. Launch DCOMCNFG by clicking the Start button, selecting Run, and
>typing "Dcomcnfg" in the Run dialog box.  
>2. In the Default Security tab, click the "Edit Default" in the "Default
>Access Permissions" frame. The Registry Value Permissions dialog box
>appears.  
>3. Add the IUSR_<machine_name>account and the INTERACTIVE account to the
>Registry Value Permissions dialog box, and click OK. 
>4. In the Default Security tab, click the Edit Default in the Default
>Launch Permissions frame. The Registry Value Permissions dialog box
>appears.  
>5. Add the IUSR_<machine_name> account to the Registry Value Permissions
>dialog box0, and click OK.  
></Microsoft>
>
>HTH
>Jim
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Erwin Craps -
>IT Helps
>Sent: Thursday, June 16, 2005 4:43 AM
>To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
>Subject: [AccessD] Urgent help needed with
>IISserver.CreateObject("ADODB.Connection")
>Importance: High
>
> 
>I'm getting desperate over here.
> 
>Yesterday I installed this mont security fixes on my W2K server.
>I also took the opportunity to install SQL SP4.
> 
>>From that reboot on, non of my database driven website no longer
>functions.
> 
>For both "JET 4 MDB" and "SQL server" access I get an error on this
>command where it always used to work before the updates. 
>failing command server.CreateObject("ADODB.Connection")
>Retunred error
>Server object error 'ASP 0178 : 80070005' 
>Server.CreateObject Access Error
>The call to Server.CreateObject failed while checking permissions.
>Access is denied to this object. 
> 
>
> 
>
>I checked al my NTFS permissons according to the MSKB, but I believe
>everything is ok.
>
>Anyway, it worked for years before this update.
>
> 
>
>Is this a bug in the windows fiexes????
>
> 
>
> 
>
> 
>
>Erwin Craps
>
>Zaakvoerder 
>
>www.ithelps.be/onsgezin
>
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From Erwin.Craps at ithelps.be  Fri Jun 17 14:15:32 2005
From: Erwin.Craps at ithelps.be (Erwin Craps - IT Helps)
Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2005 21:15:32 +0200
Subject: [AccessD] Urgent help
	neededwithIISserver.CreateObject("ADODB.Connection")
Message-ID: <46B976F2B698FF46A4FE7636509B22DF1B5C90@stekelbes.ithelps.local>

Il give it a shot.
I noticed now that also FSO does not work anymore in ASP...

Must be clearly one of this months windows updates that has caused this.

Erwin

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of MartyConnelly
Sent: Friday, June 17, 2005 5:26 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Urgent help
neededwithIISserver.CreateObject("ADODB.Connection")

Have you tried  filemon from sysinternals.com to trace the access
permission error

Erwin Craps - IT Helps wrote:

>Noop, Doesnt solve the problem.
>Already added those.
>
>Problem is persistent..
>  
>
>-----Oorspronkelijk bericht-----
>Van: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] Namens Jim Lawrence
>Verzonden: donderdag 16 juni 2005 17:07
>Aan: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
>Onderwerp: RE: [AccessD] Urgent help needed
>withIISserver.CreateObject("ADODB.Connection")
>
>Hi Erwin:
>
>Have you seen this article from MS?
>http://support.microsoft.com/kb/198432/EN-US/
>
><Microsoft>
>Solution:
>You need to give the IUSR_<machine_name> account permissions to launch 
>and access your OOP COM object using dcomcnfg by doing the following:
>1. Launch DCOMCNFG by clicking the Start button, selecting Run, and 
>typing "Dcomcnfg" in the Run dialog box.
>2. In the Default Security tab, click the "Edit Default" in the 
>"Default Access Permissions" frame. The Registry Value Permissions 
>dialog box appears.
>3. Add the IUSR_<machine_name>account and the INTERACTIVE account to 
>the Registry Value Permissions dialog box, and click OK.
>4. In the Default Security tab, click the Edit Default in the Default 
>Launch Permissions frame. The Registry Value Permissions dialog box 
>appears.
>5. Add the IUSR_<machine_name> account to the Registry Value 
>Permissions dialog box0, and click OK.
></Microsoft>
>
>HTH
>Jim
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Erwin Craps 
>- IT Helps
>Sent: Thursday, June 16, 2005 4:43 AM
>To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
>Subject: [AccessD] Urgent help needed with
>IISserver.CreateObject("ADODB.Connection")
>Importance: High
>
> 
>I'm getting desperate over here.
> 
>Yesterday I installed this mont security fixes on my W2K server.
>I also took the opportunity to install SQL SP4.
> 
>>From that reboot on, non of my database driven website no longer
>functions.
> 
>For both "JET 4 MDB" and "SQL server" access I get an error on this 
>command where it always used to work before the updates.
>failing command server.CreateObject("ADODB.Connection")
>Retunred error
>Server object error 'ASP 0178 : 80070005' 
>Server.CreateObject Access Error
>The call to Server.CreateObject failed while checking permissions.
>Access is denied to this object. 
> 
>
> 
>
>I checked al my NTFS permissons according to the MSKB, but I believe 
>everything is ok.
>
>Anyway, it worked for years before this update.
>
> 
>
>Is this a bug in the windows fiexes????
>
> 
>
> 
>
> 
>
>Erwin Craps
>
>Zaakvoerder
>
>www.ithelps.be/onsgezin
>
> 
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From artful at rogers.com  Fri Jun 17 21:46:43 2005
From: artful at rogers.com (Arthur Fuller)
Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2005 22:46:43 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Question about Animated Graphics
In-Reply-To: <916187228923D311A6FE00A0CC3FAA30ABEC3F@ADGSERVER>
Message-ID: <200506180246.j5I2kcR21562@databaseadvisors.com>

Bummer.... O well.

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Bobby Heid
Sent: June 17, 2005 8:48 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Question about Animated Graphics

Those are animated Gif files which are not supported in Access (well at
least version 2000 and less).  I think that there are some 3rd-party
controls that will let you host an animated Gif.

Bobby

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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Arthur Fuller
Sent: Thursday, June 16, 2005 10:31 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] Question about Animated Graphics


I found some cool graphics appropriate to an app I'm building now, but so
far I can't make them work correctly. For a peek at the graphics, see
http://www.animation-central.com/gears.htm. The graphics there move. When I
download one graphic and drop it on an Access form, it's static not
animated. I want the animation! How do I achieve this?

TIA,
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From Erwin.Craps at ithelps.be  Sat Jun 18 04:17:27 2005
From: Erwin.Craps at ithelps.be (Erwin Craps - IT Helps)
Date: Sat, 18 Jun 2005 11:17:27 +0200
Subject: [AccessD] Urgent helpneededwithIISserver SOLVED
Message-ID: <46B976F2B698FF46A4FE7636509B22DF1B5C91@stekelbes.ithelps.local>


I Was able to locate and solve the problem with aid of the MDAC
component checker.

I noticed that some ADO files where located at "Z:\program Files\Common
Files\system" instead of the normal C: drive.

The NTFS file security for this system folder where not correctly set as
specified in the MS articles.
I always checked the C drive folder!!!

That leaves me with the question why these MDAC are installed in the Z
drive.
My account data specifies drive Z: for the home directory, but again I
don't see the point why my common files are set to the Z drive. I
changed the registry entries from all Z: to C: and noticed the a
registry key commonfilesfolder (or something) was set to the z drive. I
changed that to to C:

To conclude this problem I blmieve what happened is this.
1) I analised my server with MSBA that resulted in a MDAC that needed
updating.
2) I updated the MDAC but also windows updates an SQL SP4 to save time.
3) For some resaon MDAC update installed onto the Z drive instead of the
C
4) The Z: drive is a user folder where only administrators (group) and
the user (in this case the administrator (user) has access to. Due to
NTFS security limitations on the Z drive the IIS could not load MDAC
components using thr IUSR failing all data access from my website.


Probably lost 12 working hours and 3 days of website problems.

Thank you whomever to thank (maybe myself with that home folder thing,
but this has worked for 2 years)

Erwin


 

-----Oorspronkelijk bericht-----
Van: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] Namens Erwin Craps - IT
Helps
Verzonden: vrijdag 17 juni 2005 21:16
Aan: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Onderwerp: RE: [AccessD] Urgent
helpneededwithIISserver.CreateObject("ADODB.Connection")

Il give it a shot.
I noticed now that also FSO does not work anymore in ASP...

Must be clearly one of this months windows updates that has caused this.

Erwin

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of MartyConnelly
Sent: Friday, June 17, 2005 5:26 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Urgent help
neededwithIISserver.CreateObject("ADODB.Connection")

Have you tried  filemon from sysinternals.com to trace the access
permission error

Erwin Craps - IT Helps wrote:

>Noop, Doesnt solve the problem.
>Already added those.
>
>Problem is persistent..
>  
>
>-----Oorspronkelijk bericht-----
>Van: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] Namens Jim Lawrence
>Verzonden: donderdag 16 juni 2005 17:07
>Aan: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
>Onderwerp: RE: [AccessD] Urgent help needed
>withIISserver.CreateObject("ADODB.Connection")
>
>Hi Erwin:
>
>Have you seen this article from MS?
>http://support.microsoft.com/kb/198432/EN-US/
>
><Microsoft>
>Solution:
>You need to give the IUSR_<machine_name> account permissions to launch 
>and access your OOP COM object using dcomcnfg by doing the following:
>1. Launch DCOMCNFG by clicking the Start button, selecting Run, and 
>typing "Dcomcnfg" in the Run dialog box.
>2. In the Default Security tab, click the "Edit Default" in the 
>"Default Access Permissions" frame. The Registry Value Permissions 
>dialog box appears.
>3. Add the IUSR_<machine_name>account and the INTERACTIVE account to 
>the Registry Value Permissions dialog box, and click OK.
>4. In the Default Security tab, click the Edit Default in the Default 
>Launch Permissions frame. The Registry Value Permissions dialog box 
>appears.
>5. Add the IUSR_<machine_name> account to the Registry Value 
>Permissions dialog box0, and click OK.
></Microsoft>
>
>HTH
>Jim
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Erwin Craps
>- IT Helps
>Sent: Thursday, June 16, 2005 4:43 AM
>To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
>Subject: [AccessD] Urgent help needed with
>IISserver.CreateObject("ADODB.Connection")
>Importance: High
>
> 
>I'm getting desperate over here.
> 
>Yesterday I installed this mont security fixes on my W2K server.
>I also took the opportunity to install SQL SP4.
> 
>>From that reboot on, non of my database driven website no longer
>functions.
> 
>For both "JET 4 MDB" and "SQL server" access I get an error on this 
>command where it always used to work before the updates.
>failing command server.CreateObject("ADODB.Connection")
>Retunred error
>Server object error 'ASP 0178 : 80070005' 
>Server.CreateObject Access Error
>The call to Server.CreateObject failed while checking permissions.
>Access is denied to this object. 
> 
>
> 
>
>I checked al my NTFS permissons according to the MSKB, but I believe 
>everything is ok.
>
>Anyway, it worked for years before this update.
>
> 
>
>Is this a bug in the windows fiexes????
>
> 
>
> 
>
> 
>
>Erwin Craps
>
>Zaakvoerder
>
>www.ithelps.be/onsgezin
>
> 
>
>This E-mail is confidential, may be legally privileged, and is for the 
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From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com  Sat Jun 18 07:40:22 2005
From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (John W. Colby)
Date: Sat, 18 Jun 2005 08:40:22 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] OT: Firefox password store
Message-ID: <000201c57402$e80893c0$6c7aa8c0@ColbyM6805>

I use FF to store my passwords for web pages.  What I haven't figured out is
why it sometimes does not offer to save the username / password?  Anyone
know?

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From martyconnelly at shaw.ca  Sat Jun 18 10:58:25 2005
From: martyconnelly at shaw.ca (MartyConnelly)
Date: Sat, 18 Jun 2005 08:58:25 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Urgent helpneededwithIISserver SOLVED
References: <46B976F2B698FF46A4FE7636509B22DF1B5C91@stekelbes.ithelps.local>
Message-ID: <42B444A1.3090000@shaw.ca>

Well if it is any consolation, Microsoft is firing the MDAC installs.

MDAC Microsoft Data Access Components version 2.8 SP-1 is the last stand
alone redistributable of MDAC that Microsoft will ship.

The end of the MDAC Redistributable

http://blogs.msdn.com/dataaccess/archive/2005/05/23/421039.aspx

It might have been dependant on what user you were logged on as
when you started the installs. Some program installs ask do you want 
accessible to all users
or just logged on user, this maybe dependant on your groups policy.

Erwin Craps - IT Helps wrote:

>I Was able to locate and solve the problem with aid of the MDAC
>component checker.
>
>I noticed that some ADO files where located at "Z:\program Files\Common
>Files\system" instead of the normal C: drive.
>
>The NTFS file security for this system folder where not correctly set as
>specified in the MS articles.
>I always checked the C drive folder!!!
>
>That leaves me with the question why these MDAC are installed in the Z
>drive.
>My account data specifies drive Z: for the home directory, but again I
>don't see the point why my common files are set to the Z drive. I
>changed the registry entries from all Z: to C: and noticed the a
>registry key commonfilesfolder (or something) was set to the z drive. I
>changed that to to C:
>
>To conclude this problem I blmieve what happened is this.
>1) I analised my server with MSBA that resulted in a MDAC that needed
>updating.
>2) I updated the MDAC but also windows updates an SQL SP4 to save time.
>3) For some resaon MDAC update installed onto the Z drive instead of the
>C
>4) The Z: drive is a user folder where only administrators (group) and
>the user (in this case the administrator (user) has access to. Due to
>NTFS security limitations on the Z drive the IIS could not load MDAC
>components using thr IUSR failing all data access from my website.
>
>
>Probably lost 12 working hours and 3 days of website problems.
>
>Thank you whomever to thank (maybe myself with that home folder thing,
>but this has worked for 2 years)
>
>Erwin
>
>
> 
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>Aan: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
>Onderwerp: RE: [AccessD] Urgent
>helpneededwithIISserver.CreateObject("ADODB.Connection")
>
>Il give it a shot.
>I noticed now that also FSO does not work anymore in ASP...
>
>Must be clearly one of this months windows updates that has caused this.
>
>Erwin
>
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>[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of MartyConnelly
>Sent: Friday, June 17, 2005 5:26 PM
>To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
>Subject: Re: [AccessD] Urgent help
>neededwithIISserver.CreateObject("ADODB.Connection")
>
>Have you tried  filemon from sysinternals.com to trace the access
>permission error
>
>Erwin Craps - IT Helps wrote:
>
>  
>
>>Noop, Doesnt solve the problem.
>>Already added those.
>>
>>Problem is persistent..
>> 
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>>Verzonden: donderdag 16 juni 2005 17:07
>>Aan: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
>>Onderwerp: RE: [AccessD] Urgent help needed
>>withIISserver.CreateObject("ADODB.Connection")
>>
>>Hi Erwin:
>>
>>Have you seen this article from MS?
>>http://support.microsoft.com/kb/198432/EN-US/
>>
>><Microsoft>
>>Solution:
>>You need to give the IUSR_<machine_name> account permissions to launch 
>>and access your OOP COM object using dcomcnfg by doing the following:
>>1. Launch DCOMCNFG by clicking the Start button, selecting Run, and 
>>typing "Dcomcnfg" in the Run dialog box.
>>2. In the Default Security tab, click the "Edit Default" in the 
>>"Default Access Permissions" frame. The Registry Value Permissions 
>>dialog box appears.
>>3. Add the IUSR_<machine_name>account and the INTERACTIVE account to 
>>the Registry Value Permissions dialog box, and click OK.
>>4. In the Default Security tab, click the Edit Default in the Default 
>>Launch Permissions frame. The Registry Value Permissions dialog box 
>>appears.
>>5. Add the IUSR_<machine_name> account to the Registry Value 
>>Permissions dialog box0, and click OK.
>></Microsoft>
>>
>>HTH
>>Jim
>>
>>-----Original Message-----
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>>[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Erwin Craps
>>- IT Helps
>>Sent: Thursday, June 16, 2005 4:43 AM
>>To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
>>Subject: [AccessD] Urgent help needed with
>>IISserver.CreateObject("ADODB.Connection")
>>Importance: High
>>
>>
>>I'm getting desperate over here.
>>
>>Yesterday I installed this mont security fixes on my W2K server.
>>I also took the opportunity to install SQL SP4.
>>
>>>From that reboot on, non of my database driven website no longer
>>functions.
>>
>>For both "JET 4 MDB" and "SQL server" access I get an error on this 
>>command where it always used to work before the updates.
>>failing command server.CreateObject("ADODB.Connection")
>>Retunred error
>>Server object error 'ASP 0178 : 80070005' 
>>Server.CreateObject Access Error
>>The call to Server.CreateObject failed while checking permissions.
>>Access is denied to this object. 
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>I checked al my NTFS permissons according to the MSKB, but I believe 
>>everything is ok.
>>
>>Anyway, it worked for years before this update.
>>
>>
>>
>>Is this a bug in the windows fiexes????
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
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From D.Dick at uws.edu.au  Sun Jun 19 19:00:30 2005
From: D.Dick at uws.edu.au (Darren Dick)
Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2005 10:00:30 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] Question about Animated Graphics
Message-ID: <2FDE83AF1A69C84796CBD13788DDA8834518F8@BONHAM.AD.UWS.EDU.AU>

Hi Arthur

Drew had some code (In Access 97 I think) in his minicalendar that
allowed
for animated graphics. Not sure if it was for an AVI or an animated GIF
If you have A97 download the minicalendar and have a look

But it can be also done with timers
I have also seen in some of Candace's demos the "Gears turning inside
the head" animation
It was a handful of stills made visible or not-visible using the timer.
Looked cool
But to get it to go fast caused screen flicker - and the screen flicker
varied from Not visible at all on some pewtas
To a real PITA in others

But as for inserting a native animated GIF and getting it to do what you
know an animated GIF can do
Is traditionally very tricky in Access and does require some sort of
smoke and mirrors

See ya

DD



-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Arthur Fuller
Sent: Saturday, June 18, 2005 12:47 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Question about Animated Graphics

Bummer.... O well.

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Sent: June 17, 2005 8:48 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Question about Animated Graphics

Those are animated Gif files which are not supported in Access (well at
least version 2000 and less).  I think that there are some 3rd-party
controls that will let you host an animated Gif.

Bobby

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Sent: Thursday, June 16, 2005 10:31 PM
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Subject: [AccessD] Question about Animated Graphics


I found some cool graphics appropriate to an app I'm building now, but
so far I can't make them work correctly. For a peek at the graphics, see
http://www.animation-central.com/gears.htm. The graphics there move.
When I download one graphic and drop it on an Access form, it's static
not animated. I want the animation! How do I achieve this?

TIA,
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From Erwin.Craps at ithelps.be  Mon Jun 20 12:19:43 2005
From: Erwin.Craps at ithelps.be (Erwin Craps - IT Helps)
Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2005 19:19:43 +0200
Subject: [AccessD] OT - Visual Basic 6.0 - Is Form Open
Message-ID: <46B976F2B698FF46A4FE7636509B22DF1B5CA3@stekelbes.ithelps.local>

I recal it is much easier than in access.

If formname.load  = true then


Erwin

	


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Verzonden: vrijdag 17 juni 2005 15:09
Aan: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Onderwerp: RE: [AccessD] OT - Visual Basic 6.0 - Is Form Open

Thanks, works a treat.....

Hope I can help out sometime

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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
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Richard
Sent: 17 June 2005 13:56
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] OT - Visual Basic 6.0 - Is Form Open

Maybe this


Private Sub Form_Load()

If IsLoaded("Form1") = True Then
MsgBox "Yep, loaded"
End If

End Sub

Private Function IsLoaded(ByVal FormName As String) As Boolean

Dim f As Form

'check all open forms
For Each f In Forms

If f.Name = FormName Then

'yep, form is loaded
IsLoaded = True

'no need to loop again...
Exit For

End If

Next ' f

End Function

Richard

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To: accessd
Subject: [AccessD] OT - Visual Basic 6.0 - Is Form Open


To all,

Does anyone know how to find out if a form is open in a Visual Basic 6.0
application ?

Thanks in advance for any help on this.

Paul Hartland
Database Developer

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From carbonnb at gmail.com  Tue Jun 21 12:28:01 2005
From: carbonnb at gmail.com (Bryan Carbonnell)
Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2005 13:28:01 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Just Checking....
Message-ID: <e04a6c9205062110283583db8a@mail.gmail.com>

Just checking to see if there is anyone out there or is AccessD down?

It's just too quite.

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From RRANTHON at sentara.com  Tue Jun 21 12:33:21 2005
From: RRANTHON at sentara.com (Randall R Anthony)
Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2005 13:33:21 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Just Checking....
Message-ID: <200506211733.j5LHXZR26514@databaseadvisors.com>

I'm-a still a-lurking...

Randy Anthony, MCP
Software Engineer
Sentara Health Plan/IT
(757)687-6207

>>> carbonnb at gmail.com 6/21/2005 1:28:01 PM >>>
Just checking to see if there is anyone out there or is AccessD down?

It's just too quite.

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From dwaters at usinternet.com  Tue Jun 21 12:58:42 2005
From: dwaters at usinternet.com (Dan Waters)
Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2005 10:58:42 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Just Checking....
In-Reply-To: <2983521.1119375486655.JavaMail.root@sniper17>
Message-ID: <000001c5768a$dfe0c020$0518820a@danwaters>

Well - it was quiet until now.   :-)

Dan Waters


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Subject: [AccessD] Just Checking....

Just checking to see if there is anyone out there or is AccessD down?

It's just too quite.

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From JHewson at karta.com  Tue Jun 21 13:39:13 2005
From: JHewson at karta.com (Jim Hewson)
Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2005 13:39:13 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Just Checking....
Message-ID: <9C382E065F54AE48BC3AA7925DCBB01C036297C6@karta-exc-int.Karta.com>

I was thinking the same thing... 
I haven't received anything for about 24 hours!

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Subject: [AccessD] Just Checking....

Just checking to see if there is anyone out there or is AccessD down?

It's just too quite.

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From jim.moss at jlmoss.net  Tue Jun 21 13:37:11 2005
From: jim.moss at jlmoss.net (Jim Moss)
Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2005 13:37:11 -0500 (CDT)
Subject: [AccessD] Just Checking....
In-Reply-To: <e04a6c9205062110283583db8a@mail.gmail.com>
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Old Egyptian proverb: Just because the surface of the water is calm
doesn't mean that there are no crcodiles

> Just checking to see if there is anyone out there or is AccessD down?
>
> It's just too quite.
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From starkey at wanadoo.nl  Tue Jun 21 13:59:52 2005
From: starkey at wanadoo.nl (StaRKeY)
Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2005 20:59:52 +0200
Subject: [AccessD] OT - Visual Basic 6.0 - Is Form Open
In-Reply-To: <46B976F2B698FF46A4FE7636509B22DF1B5CA3@stekelbes.ithelps.local>
Message-ID: <20050621185543.593F545784@smtp6.wanadoo.nl>

Hi all, 

Also have a look at the form's objectstate in Access, you can use this also
instead of looping through each form, which could get lengthy. If I remember
right though I am not sure as of which Access version this functionality
exists.

Eg. 
    If SysCmd(acSysCmdGetObjectState, acForm, <FORM-NAME>) = OBJSTATE_OPEN
Then 
        MsgBox "Form is open" 
    End If 


Regards, 
Eric Starkenburg 


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Verzonden: maandag 20 juni 2005 19:20 
Aan: Access Developers discussion and problem solving 
Onderwerp: RE: [AccessD] OT - Visual Basic 6.0 - Is Form Open 

I recal it is much easier than in access. 

If formname.load  = true then 


Erwin 

        


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[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] Namens Paul Hartland 
(ISHARP) 
Verzonden: vrijdag 17 juni 2005 15:09 
Aan: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' 
Onderwerp: RE: [AccessD] OT - Visual Basic 6.0 - Is Form Open 

Thanks, works a treat..... 

Hope I can help out sometime 

-----Original Message----- 
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com 
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Griffiths,
Richard 
Sent: 17 June 2005 13:56 
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving 
Subject: RE: [AccessD] OT - Visual Basic 6.0 - Is Form Open 

Maybe this 


Private Sub Form_Load() 

If IsLoaded("Form1") = True Then 
MsgBox "Yep, loaded" 
End If 

End Sub 

Private Function IsLoaded(ByVal FormName As String) As Boolean 

Dim f As Form 

'check all open forms 
For Each f In Forms 

If f.Name = FormName Then 

'yep, form is loaded 
IsLoaded = True 

'no need to loop again... 
Exit For 

End If 

Next ' f 

End Function 

Richard 

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Sent: 17 June 2005 12:43 
To: accessd 
Subject: [AccessD] OT - Visual Basic 6.0 - Is Form Open 


To all, 

Does anyone know how to find out if a form is open in a Visual Basic 6.0
application ? 

Thanks in advance for any help on this. 

Paul Hartland 
Database Developer 

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From Jim.Hale at FleetPride.com  Tue Jun 21 14:04:14 2005
From: Jim.Hale at FleetPride.com (Hale, Jim)
Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2005 14:04:14 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Eval function
Message-ID: <6A6AA9DF57E4F046BDA1E273BDDB6772337685@corp-es01.fleetpride.com>

Okay, since it is quiet maybe we can start a discussion about the Eval()
function. The article I just finished reading says  "The Eval function lets
you deliver applications that can create themselves dynamicaly at runtime.
You can build your app code at runtime, pass it to the Eval statement, and
have your dynamically generated line of code processed." Sounds
interesting.Anybody use it? 
Jim Hale

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From dmcafee at pacbell.net  Tue Jun 21 14:11:27 2005
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Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2005 12:11:27 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Just Checking....
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JC & Drew must have gone on vacation or called a truce ;)

:P



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[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Jim Hewson
Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2005 11:39 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Just Checking....


I was thinking the same thing... 
I haven't received anything for about 24 hours!

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[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Bryan
Carbonnell
Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2005 12:28 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: [AccessD] Just Checking....

Just checking to see if there is anyone out there or is AccessD down?

It's just too quite.

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From mmattys at rochester.rr.com  Tue Jun 21 15:03:32 2005
From: mmattys at rochester.rr.com (Michael R Mattys)
Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2005 16:03:32 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Eval function
References: <6A6AA9DF57E4F046BDA1E273BDDB6772337685@corp-es01.fleetpride.com>
Message-ID: <016a01c5769c$4e59c950$0202a8c0@default>

----- Original Message -----
From: "Hale, Jim" <Jim.Hale at fleetpride.com>
To: "'Accessd (E-mail)" <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2005 3:04 PM
Subject: [AccessD] Eval function


> Okay, since it is quiet maybe we can start a discussion about the Eval()
> function. The article I just finished reading says  "The Eval function
lets
> you deliver applications that can create themselves dynamicaly at runtime.
> You can build your app code at runtime, pass it to the Eval statement, and
> have your dynamically generated line of code processed." Sounds
> interesting.Anybody use it?
> Jim Hale


Jim,

What else does this article say?
Why do I need the eval function if I've already
written the code to create a form, controls, CBF etc?

----

Michael R. Mattys
Mattys MapLib for Microsoft MapPoint
http://www.mattysconsulting.com



From scapistrant at symphonyinfo.com  Tue Jun 21 15:49:19 2005
From: scapistrant at symphonyinfo.com (Steve Capistrant)
Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2005 15:49:19 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Eval function
Message-ID: <855499653F55AD4190B242717DF132BC082CA8@dewey.Symphony.local>

The EVAL function is indispensable for calling function procedures whose
names are stored on tables.  For example, in our applications, we
maintain a central table named "Output", which is a list of all reports,
export function, etc., making it very easy to present a list of outputs
on a searchable screen, or to use them dynamically in menu structures.

Every output requires that you first open a  certain "launchpad" form to
enter parameters (date range, font size, sort order, etc).  We have a
function written that opens this launchpad.  The outputs table stores
the function name -- e.g. "SetupLabels()" -- in a field named
"TargetProcedure".  Once the user chooses that output, your code needs
to grab that function name and run it.  That's where the EVAL() function
comes in.  Use code like this:

-------
Public Function RunOutput(lngOutputID As Long) As Boolean
Dim strProc As String
strX = "Select * from Output WHERE OutputID = " & lngOutputID
Set rs = db.OpenRecordset(strX, dbOpenDynaset, dbSeeChanges)
strProc = rs!TargetProcedure
Eval (strProc)
---------

The only odd thing is that the function name as stored in the table MUST
include parentheses, even if there are no parameters specified.  

Steve Capistrant
scapistrant at symphonyinfo.com
Symphony Information Services
7308 Aspen Lane North, Suite 132
Brooklyn Park, MN  55428
763-391-7400
www.symphonyinfo.com

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Michael R
Mattys
Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2005 3:31 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Eval function

----- Original Message -----
From: "Hale, Jim" <Jim.Hale at fleetpride.com>
To: "'Accessd (E-mail)" <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2005 3:04 PM
Subject: [AccessD] Eval function


> Okay, since it is quiet maybe we can start a discussion about the
Eval()
> function. The article I just finished reading says  "The Eval function
lets
> you deliver applications that can create themselves dynamicaly at
runtime.
> You can build your app code at runtime, pass it to the Eval statement,
and
> have your dynamically generated line of code processed." Sounds
> interesting.Anybody use it?
> Jim Hale


Jim,

What else does this article say?
Why do I need the eval function if I've already
written the code to create a form, controls, CBF etc?

----

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Mattys MapLib for Microsoft MapPoint
http://www.mattysconsulting.com

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From stephen at bondsoftware.co.nz  Tue Jun 21 15:56:56 2005
From: stephen at bondsoftware.co.nz (Stephen Bond)
Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2005 08:56:56 +1200
Subject: [AccessD] Eval function
Message-ID: <70F3D727890C784291D8433E9C418F29088B08@server.bondsoftware.co.nz>

Back in the early releases of Access you could use the @ character to pretty up the default MsgBox display.  The @ character divided the display into 3 separate entities, the first bold, the second two not, each delimited by a blank line.  So, 
MsgBox "File missing at The file FredDagg is missing at Please correct and re-try"
would give you a nicely laid out msgbox.

Somewhere in the last couple of releases, Access changed where MsgBox was processed.  Somebody else will have to fill in the precise details here but the end result was that the @ characters were not recognised any more.  So, this was the workaround:  

     eval("Msgbox(""" & prompt & """, " & Buttons & ", """ & Title & """)")

Apparently the Eval takes the String passed to it, evaluates it, and then processes it as a line of code.  And it does give the nicely laid out msgbox. 

My 2cents 

Stephen Bond


> -----Original Message-----
> From: Michael R Mattys [mailto:mmattys at rochester.rr.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, 22 June 2005 8:04 a.m.
> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] Eval function
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Hale, Jim" <Jim.Hale at fleetpride.com>
> To: "'Accessd (E-mail)" <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2005 3:04 PM
> Subject: [AccessD] Eval function
> 
> 
> > Okay, since it is quiet maybe we can start a discussion 
> about the Eval()
> > function. The article I just finished reading says  "The 
> Eval function
> lets
> > you deliver applications that can create themselves 
> dynamicaly at runtime.
> > You can build your app code at runtime, pass it to the Eval 
> statement, and
> > have your dynamically generated line of code processed." Sounds
> > interesting.Anybody use it?
> > Jim Hale
> 
> 
> Jim,
> 
> What else does this article say?
> Why do I need the eval function if I've already
> written the code to create a form, controls, CBF etc?
> 
> ----
> 
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> Mattys MapLib for Microsoft MapPoint
> http://www.mattysconsulting.com
> 
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From Jim.Hale at FleetPride.com  Tue Jun 21 16:21:50 2005
From: Jim.Hale at FleetPride.com (Hale, Jim)
Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2005 16:21:50 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Eval function
Message-ID: <6A6AA9DF57E4F046BDA1E273BDDB677233768D@corp-es01.fleetpride.com>

Interesting. Does it work in mdes? I ask because the article says "for a
function like Eval to work its magic, your application execution environment
must have access to the language's interpreter. Because Access is
distributed with the VBA interpreter we get to use the Eval function." But
since mdes are already compiled how can it work?
Jim

-----Original Message-----
From: Steve Capistrant [mailto:scapistrant at symphonyinfo.com]
Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2005 3:49 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Eval function


The EVAL function is indispensable for calling function procedures whose
names are stored on tables.  For example, in our applications, we
maintain a central table named "Output", which is a list of all reports,
export function, etc., making it very easy to present a list of outputs
on a searchable screen, or to use them dynamically in menu structures.

Every output requires that you first open a  certain "launchpad" form to
enter parameters (date range, font size, sort order, etc).  We have a
function written that opens this launchpad.  The outputs table stores
the function name -- e.g. "SetupLabels()" -- in a field named
"TargetProcedure".  Once the user chooses that output, your code needs
to grab that function name and run it.  That's where the EVAL() function
comes in.  Use code like this:

-------
Public Function RunOutput(lngOutputID As Long) As Boolean
Dim strProc As String
strX = "Select * from Output WHERE OutputID = " & lngOutputID
Set rs = db.OpenRecordset(strX, dbOpenDynaset, dbSeeChanges)
strProc = rs!TargetProcedure
Eval (strProc)
---------

The only odd thing is that the function name as stored in the table MUST
include parentheses, even if there are no parameters specified.  

Steve Capistrant
scapistrant at symphonyinfo.com
Symphony Information Services
7308 Aspen Lane North, Suite 132
Brooklyn Park, MN  55428
763-391-7400
www.symphonyinfo.com

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Michael R
Mattys
Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2005 3:31 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Eval function

----- Original Message -----
From: "Hale, Jim" <Jim.Hale at fleetpride.com>
To: "'Accessd (E-mail)" <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2005 3:04 PM
Subject: [AccessD] Eval function


> Okay, since it is quiet maybe we can start a discussion about the
Eval()
> function. The article I just finished reading says  "The Eval function
lets
> you deliver applications that can create themselves dynamicaly at
runtime.
> You can build your app code at runtime, pass it to the Eval statement,
and
> have your dynamically generated line of code processed." Sounds
> interesting.Anybody use it?
> Jim Hale


Jim,

What else does this article say?
Why do I need the eval function if I've already
written the code to create a form, controls, CBF etc?

----

Michael R. Mattys
Mattys MapLib for Microsoft MapPoint
http://www.mattysconsulting.com

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From Jim.Hale at FleetPride.com  Tue Jun 21 16:28:44 2005
From: Jim.Hale at FleetPride.com (Hale, Jim)
Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2005 16:28:44 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Eval function
Message-ID: <6A6AA9DF57E4F046BDA1E273BDDB677233768E@corp-es01.fleetpride.com>

the article says code like this:

Select Case (me.txtProcessingtype)
Case "Update"
	Call UpdateRoutine
Case "Delete"
	Call DeleteRoutine
Case "Add"
	Call AddRoutine
End Select

can be written
Eval me.txtProcessingtype & "Routine"

Jim Hale

-----Original Message-----
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Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2005 3:04 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Eval function


----- Original Message -----
From: "Hale, Jim" <Jim.Hale at fleetpride.com>
To: "'Accessd (E-mail)" <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2005 3:04 PM
Subject: [AccessD] Eval function


> Okay, since it is quiet maybe we can start a discussion about the Eval()
> function. The article I just finished reading says  "The Eval function
lets
> you deliver applications that can create themselves dynamicaly at runtime.
> You can build your app code at runtime, pass it to the Eval statement, and
> have your dynamically generated line of code processed." Sounds
> interesting.Anybody use it?
> Jim Hale


Jim,

What else does this article say?
Why do I need the eval function if I've already
written the code to create a form, controls, CBF etc?

----

Michael R. Mattys
Mattys MapLib for Microsoft MapPoint
http://www.mattysconsulting.com

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From cfoust at infostatsystems.com  Tue Jun 21 16:44:37 2005
From: cfoust at infostatsystems.com (Charlotte Foust)
Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2005 14:44:37 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] FileMaker Pro
Message-ID: <E61FC1D4B1918244905B113C680BEA86873AAF@infoserver01.infostat.local>

Since it's so slow today, if anyone is into pain, there is a 30-day free
trial (warning! HUGE download) of FileMaker Pro 7 available from the
FileMaker website.  Of all the versions so far, this comes the closest
to being relational in that you can create "relationships" between
mutliple tables rather than just linking two tables at a time and they
have switched from the file per table format that they used to use.
However, You can ONLY create relationships and indexes.  You can't
create a primary or unique key but you can cascade updates and deletes
through any relationship!  They are touting a huge maximum size of
terabytes, but that includes the equivalent of memo fields and ole
objects.  There is no provision for a split FE-BE, but they allow you to
run it on the web. 

Charlotte Foust
Infostat Systems, Inc.


From scapistrant at symphonyinfo.com  Tue Jun 21 16:45:10 2005
From: scapistrant at symphonyinfo.com (Steve Capistrant)
Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2005 16:45:10 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Eval function
Message-ID: <855499653F55AD4190B242717DF132BC082CAB@dewey.Symphony.local>

Yep. Works without a hitch in MDEs.

Steve Capistrant
scapistrant at symphonyinfo.com
Symphony Information Services
7308 Aspen Lane North, Suite 132
Brooklyn Park, MN  55428
763-391-7400
www.symphonyinfo.com

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Hale, Jim
Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2005 4:31 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Eval function

Interesting. Does it work in mdes? I ask because the article says "for a
function like Eval to work its magic, your application execution
environment
must have access to the language's interpreter. Because Access is
distributed with the VBA interpreter we get to use the Eval function."
But
since mdes are already compiled how can it work?
Jim

-----Original Message-----
From: Steve Capistrant [mailto:scapistrant at symphonyinfo.com]
Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2005 3:49 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Eval function


The EVAL function is indispensable for calling function procedures whose
names are stored on tables.  For example, in our applications, we
maintain a central table named "Output", which is a list of all reports,
export function, etc., making it very easy to present a list of outputs
on a searchable screen, or to use them dynamically in menu structures.

Every output requires that you first open a  certain "launchpad" form to
enter parameters (date range, font size, sort order, etc).  We have a
function written that opens this launchpad.  The outputs table stores
the function name -- e.g. "SetupLabels()" -- in a field named
"TargetProcedure".  Once the user chooses that output, your code needs
to grab that function name and run it.  That's where the EVAL() function
comes in.  Use code like this:

-------
Public Function RunOutput(lngOutputID As Long) As Boolean
Dim strProc As String
strX = "Select * from Output WHERE OutputID = " & lngOutputID
Set rs = db.OpenRecordset(strX, dbOpenDynaset, dbSeeChanges)
strProc = rs!TargetProcedure
Eval (strProc)
---------

The only odd thing is that the function name as stored in the table MUST
include parentheses, even if there are no parameters specified.  

Steve Capistrant
scapistrant at symphonyinfo.com
Symphony Information Services
7308 Aspen Lane North, Suite 132
Brooklyn Park, MN  55428
763-391-7400
www.symphonyinfo.com

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Michael R
Mattys
Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2005 3:31 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Eval function

----- Original Message -----
From: "Hale, Jim" <Jim.Hale at fleetpride.com>
To: "'Accessd (E-mail)" <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2005 3:04 PM
Subject: [AccessD] Eval function


> Okay, since it is quiet maybe we can start a discussion about the
Eval()
> function. The article I just finished reading says  "The Eval function
lets
> you deliver applications that can create themselves dynamicaly at
runtime.
> You can build your app code at runtime, pass it to the Eval statement,
and
> have your dynamically generated line of code processed." Sounds
> interesting.Anybody use it?
> Jim Hale


Jim,

What else does this article say?
Why do I need the eval function if I've already
written the code to create a form, controls, CBF etc?

----

Michael R. Mattys
Mattys MapLib for Microsoft MapPoint
http://www.mattysconsulting.com

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From DWUTKA at marlow.com  Tue Jun 21 16:45:52 2005
From: DWUTKA at marlow.com (DWUTKA at marlow.com)
Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2005 16:45:52 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Just Checking....
Message-ID: <123701F54509D9119A4F00D0B747349016D74B@main2.marlow.com>

Nope, just busy...and there hasn't been anything good to argue
about.......we normally just feed off what gets posted.  It's not our fault
the other listers aren't posting juicy stuff to dig into!

Drew

-----Original Message-----
From: dmcafee at pacbell.net [mailto:dmcafee at pacbell.net]
Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2005 2:11 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Just Checking....


JC & Drew must have gone on vacation or called a truce ;)

:P



-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Jim Hewson
Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2005 11:39 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Just Checking....


I was thinking the same thing... 
I haven't received anything for about 24 hours!

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Bryan
Carbonnell
Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2005 12:28 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: [AccessD] Just Checking....

Just checking to see if there is anyone out there or is AccessD down?

It's just too quite.

--
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body, but rather to skid in sideways, totally worn out, shouting "What a
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From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com  Tue Jun 21 18:07:58 2005
From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (John W. Colby)
Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2005 19:07:58 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Just Checking....
In-Reply-To: <123701F54509D9119A4F00D0B747349016D74B@main2.marlow.com>
Message-ID: <002e01c576b6$10ba7df0$6c7aa8c0@ColbyM6805>

Precisely so let's start one.  

Anyone who doesn't use a naming convention is a dolt.

;-)

John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com 

Contribute your unused CPU cycles to a good cause:
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[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of DWUTKA at marlow.com
Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2005 5:46 PM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Just Checking....


Nope, just busy...and there hasn't been anything good to argue
about.......we normally just feed off what gets posted.  It's not our fault
the other listers aren't posting juicy stuff to dig into!

Drew

-----Original Message-----
From: dmcafee at pacbell.net [mailto:dmcafee at pacbell.net]
Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2005 2:11 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Just Checking....


JC & Drew must have gone on vacation or called a truce ;)

:P



-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Jim Hewson
Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2005 11:39 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Just Checking....


I was thinking the same thing... 
I haven't received anything for about 24 hours!

-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Bryan Carbonnell
Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2005 12:28 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: [AccessD] Just Checking....

Just checking to see if there is anyone out there or is AccessD down?

It's just too quite.

--
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From jmhecht at earthlink.net  Tue Jun 21 19:15:19 2005
From: jmhecht at earthlink.net (Joe Hecht)
Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2005 17:15:19 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Just Checking....
In-Reply-To: <002e01c576b6$10ba7df0$6c7aa8c0@ColbyM6805>
Message-ID: <002601c576bf$7a219720$6401a8c0@laptop1>

John is right. ( Just trying to be helpful)

Joe Hecht
Los Angeles CA

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of John W. Colby
Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2005 4:08 PM
To: access at joe2.endjunk.com; 'Access Developers discussion and problem
solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Just Checking....

Precisely so let's start one.  

Anyone who doesn't use a naming convention is a dolt.

;-)

John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com 

Contribute your unused CPU cycles to a good cause:
http://folding.stanford.edu/

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[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of DWUTKA at marlow.com
Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2005 5:46 PM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Just Checking....


Nope, just busy...and there hasn't been anything good to argue
about.......we normally just feed off what gets posted.  It's not our fault
the other listers aren't posting juicy stuff to dig into!

Drew

-----Original Message-----
From: dmcafee at pacbell.net [mailto:dmcafee at pacbell.net]
Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2005 2:11 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Just Checking....


JC & Drew must have gone on vacation or called a truce ;)

:P



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[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Jim Hewson
Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2005 11:39 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Just Checking....


I was thinking the same thing... 
I haven't received anything for about 24 hours!

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[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Bryan Carbonnell
Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2005 12:28 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: [AccessD] Just Checking....

Just checking to see if there is anyone out there or is AccessD down?

It's just too quite.

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From nd500_lo at charter.net  Tue Jun 21 19:37:10 2005
From: nd500_lo at charter.net (Dian)
Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2005 17:37:10 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Just Checking....
In-Reply-To: <002601c576bf$7a219720$6401a8c0@laptop1>
Message-ID: <4532ph$vqgrh4@mxip05a.cluster1.charter.net>

Agreed...

-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Joe Hecht
Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2005 5:15 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Just Checking....

John is right. ( Just trying to be helpful)

Joe Hecht
Los Angeles CA

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[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of John W. Colby
Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2005 4:08 PM
To: access at joe2.endjunk.com; 'Access Developers discussion and problem
solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Just Checking....

Precisely so let's start one.  

Anyone who doesn't use a naming convention is a dolt.

;-)

John W. Colby
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[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of DWUTKA at marlow.com
Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2005 5:46 PM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Just Checking....


Nope, just busy...and there hasn't been anything good to argue
about.......we normally just feed off what gets posted.  It's not our fault
the other listers aren't posting juicy stuff to dig into!

Drew

-----Original Message-----
From: dmcafee at pacbell.net [mailto:dmcafee at pacbell.net]
Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2005 2:11 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Just Checking....


JC & Drew must have gone on vacation or called a truce ;)

:P



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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Jim Hewson
Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2005 11:39 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Just Checking....


I was thinking the same thing... 
I haven't received anything for about 24 hours!

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[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Bryan Carbonnell
Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2005 12:28 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: [AccessD] Just Checking....

Just checking to see if there is anyone out there or is AccessD down?

It's just too quite.

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From newsgrps at dalyn.co.nz  Tue Jun 21 20:24:57 2005
From: newsgrps at dalyn.co.nz (David Emerson)
Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2005 13:24:57 +1200
Subject: [AccessD] Linking Graph to Report
Message-ID: <6.2.1.2.0.20050622131317.031142c0@mail.dalyn.co.nz>

Access XP adp, SQL2000.

I have a report with a graph on it.  The graph is to show the number of 
days it took to process client information.  Each month should have its own 
graph on a separate page.  The reports source is a stored procedure which 
provides the months as an integer in the form yyyymm.

SELECT ttmpPlanTrackGraph.ConsultPlanFranchise, ttmpPlanTrackGraph.YrMth
FROM ttmpPlanTrackGraph
GROUP BY ttmpPlanTrackGraph.ConsultPlanFranchise, ttmpPlanTrackGraph.YrMth

The graphs source is also a stored procedure which includes a field with 
the month in the same format.

SELECT ttmpPlanTrackGraph.ClientName, ttmpPlanTrackGraph.FranDays AS [Work 
Days in Fran], ttmpPlanTrackGraph.BurDays AS [Work Days in Bureau], 
ttmpPlanTrackGraph.ConsultPlanFranchise, ttmpPlanTrackGraph.YrMth
FROM ttmpPlanTrackGraph

I have set the Link Child Field and Link Master fields both to YrMth.  The 
report shows a different page for each month, however each graph shows all 
records, not just the one for the pages month.

How do I get only the relevant month's data showing on each page?

Regards

David Emerson
Dalyn Software Ltd
25 Cunliffe St, Churton Park
Wellington, New Zealand
Ph/Fax (04) 478-7456
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From Bruce.Bruen at railcorp.nsw.gov.au  Tue Jun 21 21:44:57 2005
From: Bruce.Bruen at railcorp.nsw.gov.au (Bruen, Bruce)
Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2005 12:44:57 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] A2K: How to change subform view
Message-ID: <F2BE8EAB3EA585418337B71BCE6F3BF304EBC6@msmet100.rail.nsw.gov.au>

Sorry about the delayed thanks guys but Thanks.

It's a weird concept tho!

bruce 

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Sent: Friday, 10 June 2005 9:24 PM
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Subject: Re: [AccessD] A2K: How to change subform view

Hi Bruce,

It was not a mistake.
That's how it works.

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Subject: RE: [AccessD] A2K: How to change subform view


> Michael,
>
> Both your Docmds are the same?????
>
>
> bruce
>
> -----Original Message-----
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> Mattys
> Sent: Friday, 10 June 2005 12:38 PM
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>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Bruen, Bruce" <Bruce.Bruen at railcorp.nsw.gov.au>
> To: <AccessD at databaseadvisors.com>
> Sent: Thursday, June 09, 2005 10:25 PM
> Subject: [AccessD] A2K: How to change subform view
>
>
> Hi guys again,
>
> Memory has failed me.  In Access 2000, what is the code trick to 
> change the subform view from datasheet to normal?
> The following 2003 code does not work.
>
> Private Sub Test_DblClick(Cancel As Integer)
>     DoCmd.RunCommand acCmdSubformFormView End Sub
> ---------
>
> bruce
>
>     'Form to Datasheet (It's a subform)
>     If Me.Customers.Form.CurrentView = 1 Then
>         Me.Customers.SetFocus
>         DoCmd.RunCommand acCmdSubformDatasheet
>     End If
>
>     'Datasheet to Form
>     If Me.Customers.Form.CurrentView = 2 Then
>         Me.Customers.SetFocus
>         DoCmd.RunCommand acCmdSubformDatasheet
>     End If
>
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From andy at minstersystems.co.uk  Wed Jun 22 01:34:00 2005
From: andy at minstersystems.co.uk (Andy Lacey)
Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2005 07:34:00 +0100
Subject: [AccessD] Eval function
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Yes I use it for a table-driven menu system.

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> Steve Capistrant
> Sent: 21 June 2005 22:45
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> Subject: RE: [AccessD] Eval function
> 
> 
> Yep. Works without a hitch in MDEs.
> 
> Steve Capistrant
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> Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2005 4:31 PM
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> 
> Interesting. Does it work in mdes? I ask because the article 
> says "for a function like Eval to work its magic, your 
> application execution environment must have access to the 
> language's interpreter. Because Access is distributed with 
> the VBA interpreter we get to use the Eval function." But 
> since mdes are already compiled how can it work? Jim
> 
> -----Original Message-----
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> Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2005 3:49 PM
> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> Subject: RE: [AccessD] Eval function
> 
> 
> The EVAL function is indispensable for calling function 
> procedures whose names are stored on tables.  For example, in 
> our applications, we maintain a central table named "Output", 
> which is a list of all reports, export function, etc., making 
> it very easy to present a list of outputs on a searchable 
> screen, or to use them dynamically in menu structures.
> 
> Every output requires that you first open a  certain 
> "launchpad" form to enter parameters (date range, font size, 
> sort order, etc).  We have a function written that opens this 
> launchpad.  The outputs table stores the function name -- 
> e.g. "SetupLabels()" -- in a field named "TargetProcedure".  
> Once the user chooses that output, your code needs to grab 
> that function name and run it.  That's where the EVAL() 
> function comes in.  Use code like this:
> 
> -------
> Public Function RunOutput(lngOutputID As Long) As Boolean
> Dim strProc As String
> strX = "Select * from Output WHERE OutputID = " & lngOutputID 
> Set rs = db.OpenRecordset(strX, dbOpenDynaset, dbSeeChanges) 
> strProc = rs!TargetProcedure Eval (strProc)
> ---------
> 
> The only odd thing is that the function name as stored in the 
> table MUST include parentheses, even if there are no 
> parameters specified.  
> 
> Steve Capistrant
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> Michael R Mattys
> Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2005 3:31 PM
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> To: "'Accessd (E-mail)" <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2005 3:04 PM
> Subject: [AccessD] Eval function
> 
> 
> > Okay, since it is quiet maybe we can start a discussion about the
> Eval()
> > function. The article I just finished reading says  "The 
> Eval function
> lets
> > you deliver applications that can create themselves dynamicaly at
> runtime.
> > You can build your app code at runtime, pass it to the Eval 
> statement,
> and
> > have your dynamically generated line of code processed." Sounds 
> > interesting.Anybody use it? Jim Hale
> 
> 
> Jim,
> 
> What else does this article say?
> Why do I need the eval function if I've already
> written the code to create a form, controls, CBF etc?
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From Jdemarco at hudsonhealthplan.org  Wed Jun 22 08:03:44 2005
From: Jdemarco at hudsonhealthplan.org (Jim DeMarco)
Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2005 09:03:44 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] OT: Sharepoint Security
Message-ID: <08F823FD83787D4BA0B99CA580AD3C74016C3A55@TTNEXCHCL2.hshhp.com>

List,

I've done some Googling but I can't seem to find the answer to this odd problem.  I set up a Sharepoint site as a test bed (Sharepoint Services not Server) and gave a few users access.  No matter what rights I give the users they have full admin rights to the sight.  I set up custom security groups and the site is completely ignoring them.  To further add to the mystery I removed on user (she is not a member of any security group therefore should not have access to the site) and she can still get in with full admin rights.  Is it possible that Sharepoint is deferring to Windows rights?  These are all IT staff here and have more liberal rights to our network than the average user.

Does anyone have a clue?  A push in the right direction would be appreciated.

TIA

Jim DeMarco
Director of Application Development
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From Chester_Kaup at kindermorgan.com  Wed Jun 22 09:05:15 2005
From: Chester_Kaup at kindermorgan.com (Kaup, Chester)
Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2005 09:05:15 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Comparing tables question
Message-ID: <F1DD538AE6BCE74EBE562DE51564D322DB86B7@houexch1.kindermorgan.com>

I have two tables both of which have the fields Pattern and Well. The
field pattern will appear several times with a different corresponding
well. I need to compare each unique pattern well combination in table1
to see if the same unique combination exists in table2 and output a list
of the ones that have no match. I am at a loss of how to do this. Thanks
for ideas.

 

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Kinder Morgan CO2 Company, LLP

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From JHewson at karta.com  Wed Jun 22 09:08:09 2005
From: JHewson at karta.com (Jim Hewson)
Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2005 09:08:09 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] OT: Sharepoint Security
Message-ID: <9C382E065F54AE48BC3AA7925DCBB01C0362982C@karta-exc-int.Karta.com>

Jim,
I'm a novice, but will become the SharePoint "Expert" when I change
jobs, in my company, next month.  I'm interested in the outcome of your
question.
A couple of random thoughts...
There are two levels of security for SharePoint.  They are Central
Administration and Site Administration rights.  Central take precedence
over site rights.  If a person is a member of the Central Administration
group which manages the settings for the Web Server and virtual servers,
they effectively have Administrative rights to the entire portal.
In Site Administration, IIRC, there is a toggle somewhere to designate a
person to have the same rights as the parent area or site.
Let me know if you have found the solution.
Regards,
Jim H.

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Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2005 8:04 AM
To: AccessD (E-mail)
Subject: [AccessD] OT: Sharepoint Security

List,

I've done some Googling but I can't seem to find the answer to this odd
problem.  I set up a Sharepoint site as a test bed (Sharepoint Services
not Server) and gave a few users access.  No matter what rights I give
the users they have full admin rights to the sight.  I set up custom
security groups and the site is completely ignoring them.  To further
add to the mystery I removed on user (she is not a member of any
security group therefore should not have access to the site) and she can
still get in with full admin rights.  Is it possible that Sharepoint is
deferring to Windows rights?  These are all IT staff here and have more
liberal rights to our network than the average user.

Does anyone have a clue?  A push in the right direction would be
appreciated.

TIA

Jim DeMarco
Director of Application Development
Hudson Health Plan



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From bchacc at san.rr.com  Wed Jun 22 09:26:12 2005
From: bchacc at san.rr.com (Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software)
Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2005 07:26:12 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Open File Dialog Box Call Fails
Message-ID: <00b401c57736$57c70fd0$6c01a8c0@HAL9004>

Dear List:

I have a client who's selling an app I wrote where I use the code from the ADH to call the file open dialog box:

Declare Function adh_apiGetOpenFileName Lib "comdlg32.dll" _
 Alias "GetOpenFileNameA" (ofn As tagOPENFILENAME) As Boolean

I haven't worked on the app for several months and it's been very stable until a couple of weeks ago when this call began to fail with no error message.  Just didn't open the dialog box.  Then it failed on another computer.  Then on another one.  Now no computer in his place runs this api.

I went over to his place and stepped through the code and sure enough it goes to the api call and then goes right through the api call without opening the dialog box.

If we try to drop the common dialog control onto a form in design view from the additional tools list in the toolbox we get a message that says the OLE server isn't registered.

So I need to figure out 

1) how to get the OLE server registered (unregistered first I suppose) and see if that is somehow hosing the file open dialog box
2) figure out if there's a problem with comdlg32.dll
3) see if I can determine why this app suddenly went south so that it doesn't happen at one of his customer sites.

He's using Access 2000 SP-3 but also fails in AXP.  The app fails on both W2K and WXP.  He's pretty careful about virus scanning.  I don't think it is a virus even though it behaves like one.  Is it possible that it got hosed by an automatic windows update?

Any clue as to what's going on here would be greatly appreciated.

MTIA,

Rocky Smolin
Beach Access Software
http://www.e-z-mrp.com
858-259-4334


From pedro at plex.nl  Wed Jun 22 09:24:03 2005
From: pedro at plex.nl (Pedro Janssen)
Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2005 16:24:03 +0200
Subject: [AccessD] invalid number of arguments
References: <30BC111F638EB54082001A7E7282FE41114D45@elmo.co.montgomery.ny.us><007b01c57128$6c07acc0$fac581d5@pedro>
	<00ba01c571b1$155f3bc0$0202a8c0@default>
Message-ID: <002001c57736$2e2e4210$fac581d5@pedro>

Hello Michael and others,

i have made a database for my wife who works in a small firm that sells
bricks for building houses. In this database data about the brick and the
clients who sell them, is stored. When the firm grew bigger, they invested
in a
commercial database for administration purposes. In this database however,
i can't change anything. My wife don't want to ad each new client in two
different databases. So i want to use the client table from the commercial
database, because the clientID's are identical. The commercial database
table with clients [DEBSTM] can be linked to the "brick" database
[tblDebiteur].
 When i make a copy and rename the table [DEBSTM], with a macro to
[tblDebiteur], the table is still linked, so that i can't make any changes
to it.

I need the following changes (with an autoexec macro)
- unlink the table or copy the [DEBSTM] in a way that i have a unlinked
table left.
- Change the name of [DEBSTM] to [tblDebiteur]
- Change the IDfield Nummer into DebID and from text to Number
- Changing fieldname Plaats to Woonplaats

i have asked a few times question in accessd about this subject the last
months, but i never had the time to finished it. My wife is still naging
about it, so i really want to complete it now.
Last weeks i became some codes for unlinking, but stumbled into errors.

I don't want to use a query from this linked table, to adjust the names
because i then have to adjust al other query's and tables.
Using the same names for the table and fields would be the best way.

Or is it an idea ( it came to my mind when i typed this mail), to use
a table make query from [DEBSTM], use aliases for the fields
and name it [tblDebiteur], by autoexec macro. But what about changing the
data type from text to number??

TIA

Pedro Janssen
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To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving"
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Sent: Wednesday, June 15, 2005 3:49 PM
Subject: Re: [AccessD] invalid number of arguments


> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Pedro Janssen" <pedro at plex.nl>
> To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving"
> <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2005 5:30 PM
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] invalid number of arguments
> [Snip]
>
> > Let me explain a little more why i need to delete the link:
> > I have a linked table.
> > I need a copy of that table (structure and data) , without the copy is
> > beeing linked to.
> > After that i need to adjust, by code some field names.
> >
> > Who has done this before and can help me with this??
> [Snip]
>
> Pedro,
>
> I have done and can do what you're asking.
>
> It may be that you only need to ALIAS fields from your
> linked table in a query. Then again, you may have to delete
> the link in order to manipulate fields in the external database.
>
> Please explain exactly what you are going to do and
> we'll see which option needs implementation.
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From Jdemarco at hudsonhealthplan.org  Wed Jun 22 09:30:22 2005
From: Jdemarco at hudsonhealthplan.org (Jim DeMarco)
Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2005 10:30:22 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] OT: Sharepoint Security
Message-ID: <08F823FD83787D4BA0B99CA580AD3C74016C3A5B@TTNEXCHCL2.hshhp.com>

Well I just set up a non-IT staff member with Read access and that's all he could do (read).  When I removed him from the site he could not access it any longer.  So it looks like it may be using Windows Security to authenticate users.  Unfortunately I need to limit even our IT staff in various sections of the site so I've got to get a work around together.

I'll keep you posted.

Thanks,

Jim DeMarco

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Jim Hewson
Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2005 10:08 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] OT: Sharepoint Security


Jim,
I'm a novice, but will become the SharePoint "Expert" when I change
jobs, in my company, next month.  I'm interested in the outcome of your
question.
A couple of random thoughts...
There are two levels of security for SharePoint.  They are Central
Administration and Site Administration rights.  Central take precedence
over site rights.  If a person is a member of the Central Administration
group which manages the settings for the Web Server and virtual servers,
they effectively have Administrative rights to the entire portal.
In Site Administration, IIRC, there is a toggle somewhere to designate a
person to have the same rights as the parent area or site.
Let me know if you have found the solution.
Regards,
Jim H.

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim DeMarco
Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2005 8:04 AM
To: AccessD (E-mail)
Subject: [AccessD] OT: Sharepoint Security

List,

I've done some Googling but I can't seem to find the answer to this odd
problem.  I set up a Sharepoint site as a test bed (Sharepoint Services
not Server) and gave a few users access.  No matter what rights I give
the users they have full admin rights to the sight.  I set up custom
security groups and the site is completely ignoring them.  To further
add to the mystery I removed on user (she is not a member of any
security group therefore should not have access to the site) and she can
still get in with full admin rights.  Is it possible that Sharepoint is
deferring to Windows rights?  These are all IT staff here and have more
liberal rights to our network than the average user.

Does anyone have a clue?  A push in the right direction would be
appreciated.

TIA

Jim DeMarco
Director of Application Development
Hudson Health Plan



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From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com  Wed Jun 22 09:33:15 2005
From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (John W. Colby)
Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2005 10:33:15 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Comparing tables question
In-Reply-To: <F1DD538AE6BCE74EBE562DE51564D322DB86B7@houexch1.kindermorgan.com>
Message-ID: <004f01c57737$57e68940$6c7aa8c0@ColbyM6805>

The process is infinitely easier if you have a single field PK in each table
- such as an autonumber.

1) Create a join on the two tables, joining pattern in one table to pattern
in the other table, and well in one table to well in the other table.  In
this query pull the PKs (autonumber) so that you have the PKID of each
record from each table where you DO HAVE A MATCH.

2) Save that query.

3) Now create a second "not in" query, where you pull the PK of the table
that you want to know is NOT IN the result set.  Join to the corresponding
PK in the result saved.  Make the join an outer join, all records in the
table you want to see the results in.  Now pull the PK of the saved query
and set a "not null" in the selection area.

The query should now show you only the records that are "not in" the saved
query created in step 1.

This kind of query is quite common and you will most likely eventually
become quite adept at creating them.


John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com 

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-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Kaup, Chester
Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2005 10:05 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: [AccessD] Comparing tables question


I have two tables both of which have the fields Pattern and Well. The field
pattern will appear several times with a different corresponding well. I
need to compare each unique pattern well combination in table1 to see if the
same unique combination exists in table2 and output a list of the ones that
have no match. I am at a loss of how to do this. Thanks for ideas.

 

Chester Kaup

Engineering Technician

Kinder Morgan CO2 Company, LLP

Office (432) 688-3797

FAX (432) 688-3799

 

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From bheid at appdevgrp.com  Wed Jun 22 09:39:58 2005
From: bheid at appdevgrp.com (Bobby Heid)
Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2005 10:39:58 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Open File Dialog Box Call Fails
In-Reply-To: <916187228923D311A6FE00A0CC3FAA30BED42E@ADGSERVER>
Message-ID: <916187228923D311A6FE00A0CC3FAA30ABEC67@ADGSERVER>

I wonder if it is some sort of service pack that has hosed something?  Or
maybe he installed something that put a different version of comdlg32.dll?

Bobby

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Rocky Smolin -
Beach Access Software
Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2005 10:26 AM
To: AccessD at databaseadvisors.com; dba-tech
Cc: Ben Saltzer
Subject: [AccessD] Open File Dialog Box Call Fails


Dear List:

I have a client who's selling an app I wrote where I use the code from the
ADH to call the file open dialog box:

Declare Function adh_apiGetOpenFileName Lib "comdlg32.dll" _  Alias
"GetOpenFileNameA" (ofn As tagOPENFILENAME) As Boolean

I haven't worked on the app for several months and it's been very stable
until a couple of weeks ago when this call began to fail with no error
message.  Just didn't open the dialog box.  Then it failed on another
computer.  Then on another one.  Now no computer in his place runs this api.

I went over to his place and stepped through the code and sure enough it
goes to the api call and then goes right through the api call without
opening the dialog box.

If we try to drop the common dialog control onto a form in design view from
the additional tools list in the toolbox we get a message that says the OLE
server isn't registered.

So I need to figure out 

1) how to get the OLE server registered (unregistered first I suppose) and
see if that is somehow hosing the file open dialog box
2) figure out if there's a problem with comdlg32.dll
3) see if I can determine why this app suddenly went south so that it
doesn't happen at one of his customer sites.

He's using Access 2000 SP-3 but also fails in AXP.  The app fails on both
W2K and WXP.  He's pretty careful about virus scanning.  I don't think it is
a virus even though it behaves like one.  Is it possible that it got hosed
by an automatic windows update?

Any clue as to what's going on here would be greatly appreciated.

MTIA,

Rocky Smolin
Beach Access Software
http://www.e-z-mrp.com
858-259-4334



From bchacc at san.rr.com  Wed Jun 22 09:44:00 2005
From: bchacc at san.rr.com (Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software)
Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2005 07:44:00 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Open File Dialog Box Call Fails
References: <916187228923D311A6FE00A0CC3FAA30ABEC67@ADGSERVER>
Message-ID: <00f401c57738$d3ed37e0$6c01a8c0@HAL9004>

Are you thinking Windows or Office service pack?

Rocky

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Bobby Heid" <bheid at appdevgrp.com>
To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'" 
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2005 7:39 AM
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Open File Dialog Box Call Fails


>I wonder if it is some sort of service pack that has hosed something?  Or
> maybe he installed something that put a different version of comdlg32.dll?
>
> Bobby
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Rocky Smolin -
> Beach Access Software
> Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2005 10:26 AM
> To: AccessD at databaseadvisors.com; dba-tech
> Cc: Ben Saltzer
> Subject: [AccessD] Open File Dialog Box Call Fails
>
>
> Dear List:
>
> I have a client who's selling an app I wrote where I use the code from the
> ADH to call the file open dialog box:
>
> Declare Function adh_apiGetOpenFileName Lib "comdlg32.dll" _  Alias
> "GetOpenFileNameA" (ofn As tagOPENFILENAME) As Boolean
>
> I haven't worked on the app for several months and it's been very stable
> until a couple of weeks ago when this call began to fail with no error
> message.  Just didn't open the dialog box.  Then it failed on another
> computer.  Then on another one.  Now no computer in his place runs this 
> api.
>
> I went over to his place and stepped through the code and sure enough it
> goes to the api call and then goes right through the api call without
> opening the dialog box.
>
> If we try to drop the common dialog control onto a form in design view 
> from
> the additional tools list in the toolbox we get a message that says the 
> OLE
> server isn't registered.
>
> So I need to figure out
>
> 1) how to get the OLE server registered (unregistered first I suppose) and
> see if that is somehow hosing the file open dialog box
> 2) figure out if there's a problem with comdlg32.dll
> 3) see if I can determine why this app suddenly went south so that it
> doesn't happen at one of his customer sites.
>
> He's using Access 2000 SP-3 but also fails in AXP.  The app fails on both
> W2K and WXP.  He's pretty careful about virus scanning.  I don't think it 
> is
> a virus even though it behaves like one.  Is it possible that it got hosed
> by an automatic windows update?
>
> Any clue as to what's going on here would be greatly appreciated.
>
> MTIA,
>
> Rocky Smolin
> Beach Access Software
> http://www.e-z-mrp.com
> 858-259-4334
>
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From bchacc at san.rr.com  Wed Jun 22 09:45:10 2005
From: bchacc at san.rr.com (Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software)
Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2005 07:45:10 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Open File Dialog Box Call Fails
References: <916187228923D311A6FE00A0CC3FAA30ABEC67@ADGSERVER>
Message-ID: <00f701c57738$fe18cfc0$6c01a8c0@HAL9004>

I suppose he could check the properties on his comdlg32.dll.  If it doesn't 
match the one I'm using (where the app still works) where could he find the 
old one?

TIA

Rocky

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Bobby Heid" <bheid at appdevgrp.com>
To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'" 
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2005 7:39 AM
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Open File Dialog Box Call Fails


>I wonder if it is some sort of service pack that has hosed something?  Or
> maybe he installed something that put a different version of comdlg32.dll?
>
> Bobby
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Rocky Smolin -
> Beach Access Software
> Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2005 10:26 AM
> To: AccessD at databaseadvisors.com; dba-tech
> Cc: Ben Saltzer
> Subject: [AccessD] Open File Dialog Box Call Fails
>
>
> Dear List:
>
> I have a client who's selling an app I wrote where I use the code from the
> ADH to call the file open dialog box:
>
> Declare Function adh_apiGetOpenFileName Lib "comdlg32.dll" _  Alias
> "GetOpenFileNameA" (ofn As tagOPENFILENAME) As Boolean
>
> I haven't worked on the app for several months and it's been very stable
> until a couple of weeks ago when this call began to fail with no error
> message.  Just didn't open the dialog box.  Then it failed on another
> computer.  Then on another one.  Now no computer in his place runs this 
> api.
>
> I went over to his place and stepped through the code and sure enough it
> goes to the api call and then goes right through the api call without
> opening the dialog box.
>
> If we try to drop the common dialog control onto a form in design view 
> from
> the additional tools list in the toolbox we get a message that says the 
> OLE
> server isn't registered.
>
> So I need to figure out
>
> 1) how to get the OLE server registered (unregistered first I suppose) and
> see if that is somehow hosing the file open dialog box
> 2) figure out if there's a problem with comdlg32.dll
> 3) see if I can determine why this app suddenly went south so that it
> doesn't happen at one of his customer sites.
>
> He's using Access 2000 SP-3 but also fails in AXP.  The app fails on both
> W2K and WXP.  He's pretty careful about virus scanning.  I don't think it 
> is
> a virus even though it behaves like one.  Is it possible that it got hosed
> by an automatic windows update?
>
> Any clue as to what's going on here would be greatly appreciated.
>
> MTIA,
>
> Rocky Smolin
> Beach Access Software
> http://www.e-z-mrp.com
> 858-259-4334
>
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From Jim.Hale at FleetPride.com  Wed Jun 22 09:49:30 2005
From: Jim.Hale at FleetPride.com (Hale, Jim)
Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2005 09:49:30 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Comparing tables question
Message-ID: <6A6AA9DF57E4F046BDA1E273BDDB6772337690@corp-es01.fleetpride.com>

Try this:
1) Create a groupby query on the fields pattern and well for table one
2)Create a groupby query on the fields pattern and well for table two
3)use the unmatched query wizard to create the needed query
4) the only trick is, after the wizard has created the query, go into design
view and make the second outer join(the wizard only creates one join)
5) you will wnd up with something like this

SELECT Table1.Patterns, Table1.Wells
FROM Table1 LEFT JOIN Table2 ON (Table1.Wells = Table2.Wells) AND
(Table1.Patterns = Table2.Patterns)
WHERE (((Table2.Patterns) Is Null));

the resulting query produces a data set of pattern/well combos not found in
table 2. HTH
Jim Hale
-----Original Message-----
From: Kaup, Chester [mailto:Chester_Kaup at kindermorgan.com]
Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2005 9:05 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: [AccessD] Comparing tables question


I have two tables both of which have the fields Pattern and Well. The
field pattern will appear several times with a different corresponding
well. I need to compare each unique pattern well combination in table1
to see if the same unique combination exists in table2 and output a list
of the ones that have no match. I am at a loss of how to do this. Thanks
for ideas.

 

Chester Kaup

Engineering Technician

Kinder Morgan CO2 Company, LLP

Office (432) 688-3797

FAX (432) 688-3799

 

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From Jim.Hale at FleetPride.com  Wed Jun 22 10:00:34 2005
From: Jim.Hale at FleetPride.com (Hale, Jim)
Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2005 10:00:34 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Classes not recognized in mda
Message-ID: <6A6AA9DF57E4F046BDA1E273BDDB6772337691@corp-es01.fleetpride.com>

I have moved some classes and modules out of the front end into a code
library. I set the same references in the code library as in the front end.
In the front end I set a reference to the code library. The FE recognizes
the functions in the library modules fine, no problems but doesn't recognize
the classes (i.e. I get an error in the FE when I try to instantiate the
moved classes). The code ran fine when the classes resided in the front end.
I am obviously doing something simple wrong. Any suggestions? TIA
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From bheid at appdevgrp.com  Wed Jun 22 10:02:02 2005
From: bheid at appdevgrp.com (Bobby Heid)
Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2005 11:02:02 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Open File Dialog Box Call Fails
In-Reply-To: <916187228923D311A6FE00A0CC3FAA30BED441@ADGSERVER>
Message-ID: <916187228923D311A6FE00A0CC3FAA30ABEC6A@ADGSERVER>

It could be either.

Bobby

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Rocky Smolin -
Beach Access Software
Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2005 10:44 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Open File Dialog Box Call Fails


Are you thinking Windows or Office service pack?

Rocky

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Bobby Heid" <bheid at appdevgrp.com>
To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'" 
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2005 7:39 AM
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Open File Dialog Box Call Fails


>I wonder if it is some sort of service pack that has hosed something?  
>Or  maybe he installed something that put a different version of 
>comdlg32.dll?
>
> Bobby
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Rocky 
> Smolin - Beach Access Software
> Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2005 10:26 AM
> To: AccessD at databaseadvisors.com; dba-tech
> Cc: Ben Saltzer
> Subject: [AccessD] Open File Dialog Box Call Fails
>
>
> Dear List:
>
> I have a client who's selling an app I wrote where I use the code from 
> the ADH to call the file open dialog box:
>
> Declare Function adh_apiGetOpenFileName Lib "comdlg32.dll" _  Alias 
> "GetOpenFileNameA" (ofn As tagOPENFILENAME) As Boolean
>
> I haven't worked on the app for several months and it's been very 
> stable until a couple of weeks ago when this call began to fail with 
> no error message.  Just didn't open the dialog box.  Then it failed on 
> another computer.  Then on another one.  Now no computer in his place 
> runs this api.
>
> I went over to his place and stepped through the code and sure enough 
> it goes to the api call and then goes right through the api call 
> without opening the dialog box.
>
> If we try to drop the common dialog control onto a form in design view
> from
> the additional tools list in the toolbox we get a message that says the 
> OLE
> server isn't registered.
>
> So I need to figure out
>
> 1) how to get the OLE server registered (unregistered first I suppose) 
> and see if that is somehow hosing the file open dialog box
> 2) figure out if there's a problem with comdlg32.dll
> 3) see if I can determine why this app suddenly went south so that it 
> doesn't happen at one of his customer sites.
>
> He's using Access 2000 SP-3 but also fails in AXP.  The app fails on 
> both W2K and WXP.  He's pretty careful about virus scanning.  I don't 
> think it is a virus even though it behaves like one.  Is it possible 
> that it got hosed by an automatic windows update?
>
> Any clue as to what's going on here would be greatly appreciated.
>
> MTIA,
>
> Rocky Smolin
> Beach Access Software
> http://www.e-z-mrp.com
> 858-259-4334



From bheid at appdevgrp.com  Wed Jun 22 10:06:24 2005
From: bheid at appdevgrp.com (Bobby Heid)
Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2005 11:06:24 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Open File Dialog Box Call Fails
In-Reply-To: <916187228923D311A6FE00A0CC3FAA30BED443@ADGSERVER>
Message-ID: <916187228923D311A6FE00A0CC3FAA30ABEC6B@ADGSERVER>

You might try sending him your version and have him back his dll (or full
system) up, unregister his version, copy yours to where his was, and
register it.  This is a big YMMV.

If his is different, you might could try the reverse on your system.  If it
worked, then recompile your app and then have him re-install.

If the different versions is what is causing the problem, then you have just
entered that infamous place lovingly called "DLL Hell."

I am just shooting in the dark here, but this is some of the stuff that I
would investigate.

Bobby

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Rocky Smolin -
Beach Access Software
Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2005 10:45 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Cc: Ben Saltzer
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Open File Dialog Box Call Fails


I suppose he could check the properties on his comdlg32.dll.  If it doesn't 
match the one I'm using (where the app still works) where could he find the 
old one?

TIA

Rocky

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Bobby Heid" <bheid at appdevgrp.com>
To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'" 
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2005 7:39 AM
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Open File Dialog Box Call Fails


>I wonder if it is some sort of service pack that has hosed something?  
>Or  maybe he installed something that put a different version of 
>comdlg32.dll?
>
> Bobby
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Rocky 
> Smolin - Beach Access Software
> Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2005 10:26 AM
> To: AccessD at databaseadvisors.com; dba-tech
> Cc: Ben Saltzer
> Subject: [AccessD] Open File Dialog Box Call Fails
>
>
> Dear List:
>
> I have a client who's selling an app I wrote where I use the code from 
> the ADH to call the file open dialog box:
>
> Declare Function adh_apiGetOpenFileName Lib "comdlg32.dll" _  Alias 
> "GetOpenFileNameA" (ofn As tagOPENFILENAME) As Boolean
>
> I haven't worked on the app for several months and it's been very 
> stable until a couple of weeks ago when this call began to fail with 
> no error message.  Just didn't open the dialog box.  Then it failed on 
> another computer.  Then on another one.  Now no computer in his place 
> runs this api.
>
> I went over to his place and stepped through the code and sure enough 
> it goes to the api call and then goes right through the api call 
> without opening the dialog box.
>
> If we try to drop the common dialog control onto a form in design view
> from
> the additional tools list in the toolbox we get a message that says the 
> OLE
> server isn't registered.
>
> So I need to figure out
>
> 1) how to get the OLE server registered (unregistered first I suppose) 
> and see if that is somehow hosing the file open dialog box
> 2) figure out if there's a problem with comdlg32.dll
> 3) see if I can determine why this app suddenly went south so that it 
> doesn't happen at one of his customer sites.
>
> He's using Access 2000 SP-3 but also fails in AXP.  The app fails on 
> both W2K and WXP.  He's pretty careful about virus scanning.  I don't 
> think it is a virus even though it behaves like one.  Is it possible 
> that it got hosed by an automatic windows update?
>
> Any clue as to what's going on here would be greatly appreciated.
>
> MTIA,
>
> Rocky Smolin
> Beach Access Software
> http://www.e-z-mrp.com
> 858-259-4334



From Jim.Hale at FleetPride.com  Wed Jun 22 10:11:01 2005
From: Jim.Hale at FleetPride.com (Hale, Jim)
Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2005 10:11:01 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Comparing tables question
Message-ID: <6A6AA9DF57E4F046BDA1E273BDDB6772337693@corp-es01.fleetpride.com>

You don't have to use the groupby queries. I mentioned them because they
show the two lists with one instance of each pattern/well combo. In fact, in
my query below I ignored them and wrote the query directly using the tables.
Sorry for the confusion.
Jim Hale

-----Original Message-----
From: Hale, Jim [mailto:Jim.Hale at fleetpride.com]
Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2005 9:50 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Comparing tables question


Try this:
1) Create a groupby query on the fields pattern and well for table one
2)Create a groupby query on the fields pattern and well for table two
3)use the unmatched query wizard to create the needed query
4) the only trick is, after the wizard has created the query, go into design
view and make the second outer join(the wizard only creates one join)
5) you will wnd up with something like this

SELECT Table1.Patterns, Table1.Wells
FROM Table1 LEFT JOIN Table2 ON (Table1.Wells = Table2.Wells) AND
(Table1.Patterns = Table2.Patterns)
WHERE (((Table2.Patterns) Is Null));

the resulting query produces a data set of pattern/well combos not found in
table 2. HTH
Jim Hale
-----Original Message-----
From: Kaup, Chester [mailto:Chester_Kaup at kindermorgan.com]
Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2005 9:05 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: [AccessD] Comparing tables question


I have two tables both of which have the fields Pattern and Well. The
field pattern will appear several times with a different corresponding
well. I need to compare each unique pattern well combination in table1
to see if the same unique combination exists in table2 and output a list
of the ones that have no match. I am at a loss of how to do this. Thanks
for ideas.

 

Chester Kaup

Engineering Technician

Kinder Morgan CO2 Company, LLP

Office (432) 688-3797

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From mmattys at rochester.rr.com  Wed Jun 22 10:15:08 2005
From: mmattys at rochester.rr.com (Michael R Mattys)
Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2005 11:15:08 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] invalid number of arguments
References: <30BC111F638EB54082001A7E7282FE41114D45@elmo.co.montgomery.ny.us>
	<007b01c57128$6c07acc0$fac581d5@pedro>
	<00ba01c571b1$155f3bc0$0202a8c0@default>
	<002001c57736$2e2e4210$fac581d5@pedro>
Message-ID: <032e01c5773d$2e85d3c0$0202a8c0@default>

Hi Pedro,

<Snip & Reformat>

- In this (commercial) database ... i can't change anything.
- don't want to ad each new client in two different databases.
- want to use the client table from the commercial database (clientID's
identical).
- clients [DEBSTM] can be linked to the "brick" database [tblDebiteur].

> I don't want to use a query from this linked table, to adjust the names
> because i then have to adjust al other query's and tables.
> Using the same names for the table and fields would be the best way.


> Pedro Janssen

Hi Pedro,

Nagging? :)

An append query to an autonumbered table would be best.
Leave in the text ClientID and use that as criteria in the query
to make sure there are no duplicates. Alias the fields desired.
You know macros have no error handling, right?

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From cfoust at infostatsystems.com  Wed Jun 22 10:14:57 2005
From: cfoust at infostatsystems.com (Charlotte Foust)
Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2005 08:14:57 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Classes not recognized in mda
Message-ID: <E61FC1D4B1918244905B113C680BEA8689A45E@infoserver01.infostat.local>

It's a little tricky using classes in a code library because you have to
give them a public interface before they can be used elsewhere.  I don't
have an example on this machine, so I'm working from memory here, but as
I recall, I dimmed a public object variable as a new instance of the
class I wanted to expose.  That allowed the app linked to the library to
grab the public instance of the class and use its methods and
properties.    

Charlotte Foust


-----Original Message-----
From: Hale, Jim [mailto:Jim.Hale at fleetpride.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2005 8:01 AM
To: 'Accessd (E-mail)
Subject: [AccessD] Classes not recognized in mda


I have moved some classes and modules out of the front end into a code
library. I set the same references in the code library as in the front
end. In the front end I set a reference to the code library. The FE
recognizes the functions in the library modules fine, no problems but
doesn't recognize the classes (i.e. I get an error in the FE when I try
to instantiate the moved classes). The code ran fine when the classes
resided in the front end. I am obviously doing something simple wrong.
Any suggestions? TIA Jim Hale

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From Rich_Lavsa at pghcorning.com  Wed Jun 22 10:20:22 2005
From: Rich_Lavsa at pghcorning.com (Lavsa, Rich)
Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2005 11:20:22 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Pass Through Query vs SQL Stored Procedure
Message-ID: <2A261FF9D5EBCA46940C11688CE872EE01E969DD@goexchange2.pghcorning.com>

HELLO ALL,

Summary: Pass through query in Access using DSN (Oracle is faster then
Linked Server in SQL Server with procedure).


I currently have an application that pulls data from our ERP system
which is in Oracle 9i, Net8 client.  The current application has an
Access Front end (A2k2) and a SQL server back end.  What I have been
trying to do over the last 2 days is convert all PassThrough queries,
into stored procedures.  So far this has worked beautifully, and
eliminated a ton of code which I had developed to dynamically alter the
where clause and now only have to pass in a parameter for a stored
procedure.  

Anyway, I ran into a stumbling block.  The above approach helped in both
simplicity and speed for all information stored in SQL server.  However
the information stored in Oracle hasn't gone so easy.  I set up a linked
server, so that all authentication will come from the server and won't
have to worry about adding a new user, and having to make sure they have
access to the DNS.  Anyway, the current pass through query will run in
roughly 1-2 seconds.  When converted to a procedure to use the linked
server, it jumps up to 1 minute 47 seconds.  The fastest I could get it
down to is 1 minute 30 seconds.

Any tips/tricks/criticism welcome... 

Here are the basics of what I have tried...

======================================================================
ACCESS PASS THROUGH (1-2 seconds)
SELECT A.ORDER_NUMBER, A.ORDER_LINE_NUMBER, B.PART_CODE, B.PART_DESC_1,
c.UNIT_OF_MEASURE , c.ORDER_QUANTITY FROM fin_Prod.SALES_ORDER_LINES A,
fin_Prod.PRODUCT_MASTER B, fin_Prod.SALES_ORDER_LINE_QTYS C Where
(A.COMPANY_CODE = B.COMPANY_CODE) And (A.ORDER_LINE_NUMBER =
C.ORDER_LINE_NUMBER) AND (A.ORDER_NUMBER = C.ORDER_NUMBER) AND
(A.DIVISION = C.DIVISION) AND (A.COMPANY_CODE = C.COMPANY_CODE) AND
(A.PART_CODE = B.PART_CODE) AND (A.Unit_Sales = c.UNIT_OF_MEASURE)  And
A.ORDER_NUMBER = '310376' AND C.ORDER_NUMBER = '310376'

======================================================================

======================================================================
SQL Server Stored Procedure(1) sql(1min 47 seconds)
SELECT 
A.ORDER_NUMBER, A.ORDER_LINE_NUMBER, 
B.PART_CODE, B.PART_DESC_1, 
c.UNIT_OF_MEASURE , c.ORDER_QUANTITY 
FROM 
RENCS..FIN_PROD.SALES_ORDER_LINES A, 
RENCS..FIN_PROD.PRODUCT_MASTER B, 
RENCS..FIN_PROD.SALES_ORDER_LINE_QTYS C
Where 
A.ORDER_NUMBER = '310376' AND C.oRDER_NUMBER = '310376' AND 
(A.PART_CODE = B.PART_CODE) AND (A.COMPANY_CODE = B.COMPANY_CODE) And 
(A.ORDER_LINE_NUMBER = C.ORDER_LINE_NUMBER) AND 
(A.ORDER_NUMBER = C.ORDER_NUMBER) AND 
(A.DIVISION = C.DIVISION) AND 
(A.COMPANY_CODE = C.COMPANY_CODE) AND 
(A.Unit_Sales = c.UNIT_OF_MEASURE)
======================================================================

======================================================================
SQL Server Stored Procedure (2) sql (1min 30 seconds)


SELECT     A.ORDER_NUMBER, A.ORDER_LINE_NUMBER, B.PART_CODE,
B.PART_DESC_1, C.UNIT_OF_MEASURE, 
                      C.ORDER_QUANTITY
FROM         
OPENQUERY(RENCS, 'select ORDER_NUMBER, ORDER_LINE_NUMBER, COMPANY_CODE,
PART_CODE, 
DIVISION, Unit_Sales from fin_Prod.SALES_ORDER_LINES') A 

LEFT OUTER JOIN

OPENQUERY(RENCS,'select UNIT_OF_MEASURE, ORDER_QUANTITY, 
ORDER_LINE_NUMBER, ORDER_NUMBER, COMPANY_CODE, DIVISION from
fin_Prod.SALES_ORDER_LINE_QTYS') C
ON 
A.ORDER_NUMBER = C.ORDER_NUMBER AND A.ORDER_LINE_NUMBER =
C.ORDER_LINE_NUMBER AND 
A.COMPANY_CODE = C.COMPANY_CODE AND A.DIVISION = C.DIVISION AND 
A.UNIT_SALES = C.UNIT_OF_MEASURE 

LEFT OUTER JOIN

OPENQUERY(RENCS, 'select PART_CODE, PART_DESC_1,COMPANY_CODE from
fin_Prod.PRODUCT_MASTER') B 
ON 
A.COMPANY_CODE = B.COMPANY_CODE AND A.PART_CODE = B.PART_CODE

WHERE     (A.ORDER_NUMBER = '310376') and (c.ORDER_NUMBER = '310376')
======================================================================


Rich 


From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com  Wed Jun 22 10:22:24 2005
From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (John W. Colby)
Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2005 11:22:24 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Classes not recognized in mda
In-Reply-To: <6A6AA9DF57E4F046BDA1E273BDDB6772337691@corp-es01.fleetpride.com>
Message-ID: <006801c5773e$33f24400$6c7aa8c0@ColbyM6805>

Yes, you have to:

1) Export the classes to text files
2) Edit the text file to set two properties
3) Delete the original class in your lib.
4) Insert a new class
5) Insert the file into that class.  
6) Save the new class.

The top of an exported class will look something like:

VERSION 1.0 CLASS
BEGIN
  MultiUse = -1  'True
END
Attribute VB_Name = "clsSysVars"
Attribute VB_GlobalNameSpace = False
Attribute VB_Creatable = False
Attribute VB_PredeclaredId = False
Attribute VB_Exposed = False
Option Compare Database
Option Explicit

You need to change it to look like:

Attribute VB_Name = "clsSysVars"
Attribute VB_GlobalNameSpace = False
Attribute VB_Creatable = True
Attribute VB_PredeclaredId = False
Attribute VB_Exposed = True

Notice all the stuff I got rid of, and also notice that I changed two
properties from False to True.

That should take care of you.

John W. Colby
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[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Hale, Jim
Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2005 11:01 AM
To: 'Accessd (E-mail)
Subject: [AccessD] Classes not recognized in mda


I have moved some classes and modules out of the front end into a code
library. I set the same references in the code library as in the front end.
In the front end I set a reference to the code library. The FE recognizes
the functions in the library modules fine, no problems but doesn't recognize
the classes (i.e. I get an error in the FE when I try to instantiate the
moved classes). The code ran fine when the classes resided in the front end.
I am obviously doing something simple wrong. Any suggestions? TIA Jim Hale

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From DWUTKA at marlow.com  Wed Jun 22 10:20:54 2005
From: DWUTKA at marlow.com (DWUTKA at marlow.com)
Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2005 10:20:54 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Just Checking....
Message-ID: <123701F54509D9119A4F00D0B747349016D74D@main2.marlow.com>

Sheesh JC.....you really must be losing it with old age.... <grin>

What kind of statement is that?  Technically, no one could not use a naming
convention.  <grin>

Drew

-----Original Message-----
From: John W. Colby [mailto:jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com]
Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2005 6:08 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Just Checking....


Precisely so let's start one.  

Anyone who doesn't use a naming convention is a dolt.

;-)

John W. Colby
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[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of DWUTKA at marlow.com
Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2005 5:46 PM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Just Checking....


Nope, just busy...and there hasn't been anything good to argue
about.......we normally just feed off what gets posted.  It's not our fault
the other listers aren't posting juicy stuff to dig into!

Drew

-----Original Message-----
From: dmcafee at pacbell.net [mailto:dmcafee at pacbell.net]
Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2005 2:11 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Just Checking....


JC & Drew must have gone on vacation or called a truce ;)

:P



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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Jim Hewson
Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2005 11:39 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Just Checking....


I was thinking the same thing... 
I haven't received anything for about 24 hours!

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[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Bryan Carbonnell
Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2005 12:28 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: [AccessD] Just Checking....

Just checking to see if there is anyone out there or is AccessD down?

It's just too quite.

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From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com  Wed Jun 22 10:24:50 2005
From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (John W. Colby)
Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2005 11:24:50 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Classes not recognized in mda
In-Reply-To: <E61FC1D4B1918244905B113C680BEA8689A45E@infoserver01.infostat.local>
Message-ID: <006901c5773e$883b1be0$6c7aa8c0@ColbyM6805>

Hmm... This is the other way of doing it.  What Charlotte is saying is that
INSIDE of the library you can set a function that dims a new instance and
returns a pointer to the class.  The problem with doing this is that you
can't use intellisense to see the properties of the class etc. whereas using
the method I described, your classes become just another object and you can
use it just as you would any other object.

John W. Colby
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[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Charlotte Foust
Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2005 11:15 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Classes not recognized in mda


It's a little tricky using classes in a code library because you have to
give them a public interface before they can be used elsewhere.  I don't
have an example on this machine, so I'm working from memory here, but as I
recall, I dimmed a public object variable as a new instance of the class I
wanted to expose.  That allowed the app linked to the library to grab the
public instance of the class and use its methods and
properties.    

Charlotte Foust


-----Original Message-----
From: Hale, Jim [mailto:Jim.Hale at fleetpride.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2005 8:01 AM
To: 'Accessd (E-mail)
Subject: [AccessD] Classes not recognized in mda


I have moved some classes and modules out of the front end into a code
library. I set the same references in the code library as in the front end.
In the front end I set a reference to the code library. The FE recognizes
the functions in the library modules fine, no problems but doesn't recognize
the classes (i.e. I get an error in the FE when I try to instantiate the
moved classes). The code ran fine when the classes resided in the front end.
I am obviously doing something simple wrong. Any suggestions? TIA Jim Hale

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From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com  Wed Jun 22 10:27:12 2005
From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (John W. Colby)
Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2005 11:27:12 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Just Checking....
In-Reply-To: <123701F54509D9119A4F00D0B747349016D74D@main2.marlow.com>
Message-ID: <007001c5773e$dcdc4cf0$6c7aa8c0@ColbyM6805>

ROTFL.  Yea, I am getting old.

I am about to launch a field naming convention discussion so look out.  ;-)

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[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of DWUTKA at marlow.com
Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2005 11:21 AM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Just Checking....


Sheesh JC.....you really must be losing it with old age.... <grin>

What kind of statement is that?  Technically, no one could not use a naming
convention.  <grin>

Drew

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Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2005 6:08 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Just Checking....


Precisely so let's start one.  

Anyone who doesn't use a naming convention is a dolt.

;-)

John W. Colby
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Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2005 5:46 PM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Just Checking....


Nope, just busy...and there hasn't been anything good to argue
about.......we normally just feed off what gets posted.  It's not our fault
the other listers aren't posting juicy stuff to dig into!

Drew

-----Original Message-----
From: dmcafee at pacbell.net [mailto:dmcafee at pacbell.net]
Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2005 2:11 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Just Checking....


JC & Drew must have gone on vacation or called a truce ;)

:P



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Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2005 11:39 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Just Checking....


I was thinking the same thing... 
I haven't received anything for about 24 hours!

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[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Bryan Carbonnell
Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2005 12:28 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: [AccessD] Just Checking....

Just checking to see if there is anyone out there or is AccessD down?

It's just too quite.

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From Jim.Hale at FleetPride.com  Wed Jun 22 10:34:50 2005
From: Jim.Hale at FleetPride.com (Hale, Jim)
Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2005 10:34:50 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Classes not recognized in mda
Message-ID: <6A6AA9DF57E4F046BDA1E273BDDB6772337694@corp-es01.fleetpride.com>

Thanks. I'll give it a shot
Jim Hale

-----Original Message-----
From: John W. Colby [mailto:jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com]
Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2005 10:22 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Classes not recognized in mda


Yes, you have to:

1) Export the classes to text files
2) Edit the text file to set two properties
3) Delete the original class in your lib.
4) Insert a new class
5) Insert the file into that class.  
6) Save the new class.

The top of an exported class will look something like:

VERSION 1.0 CLASS
BEGIN
  MultiUse = -1  'True
END
Attribute VB_Name = "clsSysVars"
Attribute VB_GlobalNameSpace = False
Attribute VB_Creatable = False
Attribute VB_PredeclaredId = False
Attribute VB_Exposed = False
Option Compare Database
Option Explicit

You need to change it to look like:

Attribute VB_Name = "clsSysVars"
Attribute VB_GlobalNameSpace = False
Attribute VB_Creatable = True
Attribute VB_PredeclaredId = False
Attribute VB_Exposed = True

Notice all the stuff I got rid of, and also notice that I changed two
properties from False to True.

That should take care of you.

John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com 

Contribute your unused CPU cycles to a good cause:
http://folding.stanford.edu/

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[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Hale, Jim
Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2005 11:01 AM
To: 'Accessd (E-mail)
Subject: [AccessD] Classes not recognized in mda


I have moved some classes and modules out of the front end into a code
library. I set the same references in the code library as in the front end.
In the front end I set a reference to the code library. The FE recognizes
the functions in the library modules fine, no problems but doesn't recognize
the classes (i.e. I get an error in the FE when I try to instantiate the
moved classes). The code ran fine when the classes resided in the front end.
I am obviously doing something simple wrong. Any suggestions? TIA Jim Hale

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From DWUTKA at marlow.com  Wed Jun 22 10:37:36 2005
From: DWUTKA at marlow.com (DWUTKA at marlow.com)
Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2005 10:37:36 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Just Checking....
Message-ID: <123701F54509D9119A4F00D0B747349016D74E@main2.marlow.com>

Okay, now you are really slipping JC...giving me warning?????  What's next,
you're pledge of unfaltering loyalty to the Unbounders?  ;)

Drew

-----Original Message-----
From: John W. Colby [mailto:jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com]
Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2005 10:27 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Just Checking....


ROTFL.  Yea, I am getting old.

I am about to launch a field naming convention discussion so look out.  ;-)

John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com 

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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of DWUTKA at marlow.com
Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2005 11:21 AM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Just Checking....


Sheesh JC.....you really must be losing it with old age.... <grin>

What kind of statement is that?  Technically, no one could not use a naming
convention.  <grin>

Drew

-----Original Message-----
From: John W. Colby [mailto:jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com]
Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2005 6:08 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Just Checking....


Precisely so let's start one.  

Anyone who doesn't use a naming convention is a dolt.

;-)

John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com 

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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of DWUTKA at marlow.com
Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2005 5:46 PM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Just Checking....


Nope, just busy...and there hasn't been anything good to argue
about.......we normally just feed off what gets posted.  It's not our fault
the other listers aren't posting juicy stuff to dig into!

Drew

-----Original Message-----
From: dmcafee at pacbell.net [mailto:dmcafee at pacbell.net]
Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2005 2:11 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Just Checking....


JC & Drew must have gone on vacation or called a truce ;)

:P



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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Jim Hewson
Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2005 11:39 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Just Checking....


I was thinking the same thing... 
I haven't received anything for about 24 hours!

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[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Bryan Carbonnell
Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2005 12:28 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: [AccessD] Just Checking....

Just checking to see if there is anyone out there or is AccessD down?

It's just too quite.

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From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com  Wed Jun 22 10:48:46 2005
From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (John W. Colby)
Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2005 11:48:46 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Just Checking....
In-Reply-To: <123701F54509D9119A4F00D0B747349016D74E@main2.marlow.com>
Message-ID: <007701c57741$e05bcf60$6c7aa8c0@ColbyM6805>

If I could figure out why unholy unbounders even exist...

;-)

John W. Colby
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-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of DWUTKA at marlow.com
Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2005 11:38 AM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Just Checking....


Okay, now you are really slipping JC...giving me warning?????  What's next,
you're pledge of unfaltering loyalty to the Unbounders?  ;)

Drew

-----Original Message-----
From: John W. Colby [mailto:jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com]
Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2005 10:27 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Just Checking....


ROTFL.  Yea, I am getting old.

I am about to launch a field naming convention discussion so look out.  ;-)

John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com 

Contribute your unused CPU cycles to a good cause:
http://folding.stanford.edu/

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of DWUTKA at marlow.com
Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2005 11:21 AM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Just Checking....


Sheesh JC.....you really must be losing it with old age.... <grin>

What kind of statement is that?  Technically, no one could not use a naming
convention.  <grin>

Drew

-----Original Message-----
From: John W. Colby [mailto:jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com]
Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2005 6:08 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Just Checking....


Precisely so let's start one.  

Anyone who doesn't use a naming convention is a dolt.

;-)

John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com 

Contribute your unused CPU cycles to a good cause:
http://folding.stanford.edu/

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of DWUTKA at marlow.com
Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2005 5:46 PM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Just Checking....


Nope, just busy...and there hasn't been anything good to argue
about.......we normally just feed off what gets posted.  It's not our fault
the other listers aren't posting juicy stuff to dig into!

Drew

-----Original Message-----
From: dmcafee at pacbell.net [mailto:dmcafee at pacbell.net]
Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2005 2:11 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Just Checking....


JC & Drew must have gone on vacation or called a truce ;)

:P



-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Jim Hewson
Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2005 11:39 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Just Checking....


I was thinking the same thing... 
I haven't received anything for about 24 hours!

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Bryan Carbonnell
Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2005 12:28 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: [AccessD] Just Checking....

Just checking to see if there is anyone out there or is AccessD down?

It's just too quite.

--
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From Jim.Hale at FleetPride.com  Wed Jun 22 10:58:39 2005
From: Jim.Hale at FleetPride.com (Hale, Jim)
Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2005 10:58:39 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Classes not recognized in mda
Message-ID: <6A6AA9DF57E4F046BDA1E273BDDB6772337695@corp-es01.fleetpride.com>

The new class doesn't like the Attribute keyword. Am I missing a reference
perhaps?
Jim Hale

-----Original Message-----
From: John W. Colby [mailto:jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com]
Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2005 10:22 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Classes not recognized in mda


Yes, you have to:

1) Export the classes to text files
2) Edit the text file to set two properties
3) Delete the original class in your lib.
4) Insert a new class
5) Insert the file into that class.  
6) Save the new class.

The top of an exported class will look something like:

VERSION 1.0 CLASS
BEGIN
  MultiUse = -1  'True
END
Attribute VB_Name = "clsSysVars"
Attribute VB_GlobalNameSpace = False
Attribute VB_Creatable = False
Attribute VB_PredeclaredId = False
Attribute VB_Exposed = False
Option Compare Database
Option Explicit

You need to change it to look like:

Attribute VB_Name = "clsSysVars"
Attribute VB_GlobalNameSpace = False
Attribute VB_Creatable = True
Attribute VB_PredeclaredId = False
Attribute VB_Exposed = True

Notice all the stuff I got rid of, and also notice that I changed two
properties from False to True.

That should take care of you.

John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com 

Contribute your unused CPU cycles to a good cause:
http://folding.stanford.edu/

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Hale, Jim
Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2005 11:01 AM
To: 'Accessd (E-mail)
Subject: [AccessD] Classes not recognized in mda


I have moved some classes and modules out of the front end into a code
library. I set the same references in the code library as in the front end.
In the front end I set a reference to the code library. The FE recognizes
the functions in the library modules fine, no problems but doesn't recognize
the classes (i.e. I get an error in the FE when I try to instantiate the
moved classes). The code ran fine when the classes resided in the front end.
I am obviously doing something simple wrong. Any suggestions? TIA Jim Hale

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From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com  Wed Jun 22 11:07:44 2005
From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (John W. Colby)
Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2005 12:07:44 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Classes not recognized in mda
In-Reply-To: <6A6AA9DF57E4F046BDA1E273BDDB6772337695@corp-es01.fleetpride.com>
Message-ID: <007e01c57744$8a7f30c0$6c7aa8c0@ColbyM6805>

Jim,

These things should not even be visible when you pull them back in.  You
MUST:

1) Delete the old class - make SURE you exported it first <grin>
2) INSERT a new (blank) class
3) INSERT the file into that class
4) SAVE the new class

When you do it this way you should not even be able to SEE the ATTRIBUTE
keyword.

John W. Colby
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-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Hale, Jim
Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2005 11:59 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Classes not recognized in mda


The new class doesn't like the Attribute keyword. Am I missing a reference
perhaps? Jim Hale

-----Original Message-----
From: John W. Colby [mailto:jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com]
Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2005 10:22 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Classes not recognized in mda


Yes, you have to:

1) Export the classes to text files
2) Edit the text file to set two properties
3) Delete the original class in your lib.
4) Insert a new class
5) Insert the file into that class.  
6) Save the new class.

The top of an exported class will look something like:

VERSION 1.0 CLASS
BEGIN
  MultiUse = -1  'True
END
Attribute VB_Name = "clsSysVars"
Attribute VB_GlobalNameSpace = False
Attribute VB_Creatable = False
Attribute VB_PredeclaredId = False
Attribute VB_Exposed = False
Option Compare Database
Option Explicit

You need to change it to look like:

Attribute VB_Name = "clsSysVars"
Attribute VB_GlobalNameSpace = False
Attribute VB_Creatable = True
Attribute VB_PredeclaredId = False
Attribute VB_Exposed = True

Notice all the stuff I got rid of, and also notice that I changed two
properties from False to True.

That should take care of you.

John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com 

Contribute your unused CPU cycles to a good cause:
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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Hale, Jim
Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2005 11:01 AM
To: 'Accessd (E-mail)
Subject: [AccessD] Classes not recognized in mda


I have moved some classes and modules out of the front end into a code
library. I set the same references in the code library as in the front end.
In the front end I set a reference to the code library. The FE recognizes
the functions in the library modules fine, no problems but doesn't recognize
the classes (i.e. I get an error in the FE when I try to instantiate the
moved classes). The code ran fine when the classes resided in the front end.
I am obviously doing something simple wrong. Any suggestions? TIA Jim Hale

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From cfoust at infostatsystems.com  Wed Jun 22 11:12:25 2005
From: cfoust at infostatsystems.com (Charlotte Foust)
Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2005 09:12:25 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Just Checking....
Message-ID: <E61FC1D4B1918244905B113C680BEA86873AB2@infoserver01.infostat.local>

OH NO!  Please don't, John!  I know you use one, but I OBJECT violently!

Charlotte Foust


-----Original Message-----
From: John W. Colby [mailto:jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2005 8:27 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Just Checking....


ROTFL.  Yea, I am getting old.

I am about to launch a field naming convention discussion so look out.
;-)

John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com 

Contribute your unused CPU cycles to a good cause:
http://folding.stanford.edu/

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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of
DWUTKA at marlow.com
Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2005 11:21 AM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Just Checking....


Sheesh JC.....you really must be losing it with old age.... <grin>

What kind of statement is that?  Technically, no one could not use a
naming convention.  <grin>

Drew

-----Original Message-----
From: John W. Colby [mailto:jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com]
Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2005 6:08 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Just Checking....


Precisely so let's start one.  

Anyone who doesn't use a naming convention is a dolt.

;-)

John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com 

Contribute your unused CPU cycles to a good cause:
http://folding.stanford.edu/

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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of
DWUTKA at marlow.com
Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2005 5:46 PM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Just Checking....


Nope, just busy...and there hasn't been anything good to argue
about.......we normally just feed off what gets posted.  It's not our
fault the other listers aren't posting juicy stuff to dig into!

Drew

-----Original Message-----
From: dmcafee at pacbell.net [mailto:dmcafee at pacbell.net]
Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2005 2:11 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Just Checking....


JC & Drew must have gone on vacation or called a truce ;)

:P



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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Jim Hewson
Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2005 11:39 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Just Checking....


I was thinking the same thing... 
I haven't received anything for about 24 hours!

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Bryan
Carbonnell
Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2005 12:28 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: [AccessD] Just Checking....

Just checking to see if there is anyone out there or is AccessD down?

It's just too quite.

--
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From cfoust at infostatsystems.com  Wed Jun 22 11:13:08 2005
From: cfoust at infostatsystems.com (Charlotte Foust)
Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2005 09:13:08 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Just Checking....
Message-ID: <E61FC1D4B1918244905B113C680BEA86873AB3@infoserver01.infostat.local>

To make your life interesting, John. <smirk>

Charlotte Foust


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If I could figure out why unholy unbounders even exist...

;-)

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Okay, now you are really slipping JC...giving me warning?????  What's
next, you're pledge of unfaltering loyalty to the Unbounders?  ;)

Drew

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ROTFL.  Yea, I am getting old.

I am about to launch a field naming convention discussion so look out.
;-)

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Sheesh JC.....you really must be losing it with old age.... <grin>

What kind of statement is that?  Technically, no one could not use a
naming convention.  <grin>

Drew

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Precisely so let's start one.  

Anyone who doesn't use a naming convention is a dolt.

;-)

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Nope, just busy...and there hasn't been anything good to argue
about.......we normally just feed off what gets posted.  It's not our
fault the other listers aren't posting juicy stuff to dig into!

Drew

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Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2005 2:11 PM
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JC & Drew must have gone on vacation or called a truce ;)

:P



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I was thinking the same thing... 
I haven't received anything for about 24 hours!

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Just checking to see if there is anyone out there or is AccessD down?

It's just too quite.

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From Lambert.Heenan at AIG.com  Wed Jun 22 11:14:57 2005
From: Lambert.Heenan at AIG.com (Heenan, Lambert)
Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2005 12:14:57 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Classes not recognized in mda
Message-ID: <1D7828CDB8350747AFE9D69E0E90DA1F11CD7202@xlivmbx21.aig.com>

In step 4 that John outlined you do *not* paste the complete text of the
class code into the new, empty class module. Rather, you open the new class
module, and then from the File menu select 'Insert File' (or is it the
Insert menu - I can't tell right now as my copy of Access 2002 is doing its
usual thing right now --- Taking several minutes to save a few lines of
code, which will result in me having YET ANOTHER CORRUPT FILE THAT I NEED TO
RESTORE FROM BACKUP!!!!! Every dammed day this happens to me grrrrr!!!!) ---

Lambert

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The new class doesn't like the Attribute keyword. Am I missing a reference
perhaps? Jim Hale

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Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2005 10:22 AM
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Yes, you have to:

1) Export the classes to text files
2) Edit the text file to set two properties
3) Delete the original class in your lib.
4) Insert a new class
5) Insert the file into that class.  
6) Save the new class.

The top of an exported class will look something like:

VERSION 1.0 CLASS
BEGIN
  MultiUse = -1  'True
END
Attribute VB_Name = "clsSysVars"
Attribute VB_GlobalNameSpace = False
Attribute VB_Creatable = False
Attribute VB_PredeclaredId = False
Attribute VB_Exposed = False
Option Compare Database
Option Explicit

You need to change it to look like:

Attribute VB_Name = "clsSysVars"
Attribute VB_GlobalNameSpace = False
Attribute VB_Creatable = True
Attribute VB_PredeclaredId = False
Attribute VB_Exposed = True

Notice all the stuff I got rid of, and also notice that I changed two
properties from False to True.

That should take care of you.

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Subject: [AccessD] Classes not recognized in mda


I have moved some classes and modules out of the front end into a code
library. I set the same references in the code library as in the front end.
In the front end I set a reference to the code library. The FE recognizes
the functions in the library modules fine, no problems but doesn't recognize
the classes (i.e. I get an error in the FE when I try to instantiate the
moved classes). The code ran fine when the classes resided in the front end.
I am obviously doing something simple wrong. Any suggestions? TIA Jim Hale

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From DWUTKA at marlow.com  Wed Jun 22 11:15:23 2005
From: DWUTKA at marlow.com (DWUTKA at marlow.com)
Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2005 11:15:23 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Just Checking....
Message-ID: <123701F54509D9119A4F00D0B747349016D750@main2.marlow.com>

LOL! Okay, we're digressing....and not even kicking up much dirt....I think
we need to regroup! LOL

Drew

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If I could figure out why unholy unbounders even exist...

;-)

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Okay, now you are really slipping JC...giving me warning?????  What's next,
you're pledge of unfaltering loyalty to the Unbounders?  ;)

Drew

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Subject: RE: [AccessD] Just Checking....


ROTFL.  Yea, I am getting old.

I am about to launch a field naming convention discussion so look out.  ;-)

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Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2005 11:21 AM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Just Checking....


Sheesh JC.....you really must be losing it with old age.... <grin>

What kind of statement is that?  Technically, no one could not use a naming
convention.  <grin>

Drew

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Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2005 6:08 PM
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Subject: RE: [AccessD] Just Checking....


Precisely so let's start one.  

Anyone who doesn't use a naming convention is a dolt.

;-)

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Nope, just busy...and there hasn't been anything good to argue
about.......we normally just feed off what gets posted.  It's not our fault
the other listers aren't posting juicy stuff to dig into!

Drew

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From: dmcafee at pacbell.net [mailto:dmcafee at pacbell.net]
Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2005 2:11 PM
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Subject: RE: [AccessD] Just Checking....


JC & Drew must have gone on vacation or called a truce ;)

:P



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Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2005 11:39 AM
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Subject: RE: [AccessD] Just Checking....


I was thinking the same thing... 
I haven't received anything for about 24 hours!

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Subject: [AccessD] Just Checking....

Just checking to see if there is anyone out there or is AccessD down?

It's just too quite.

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From Jdemarco at hudsonhealthplan.org  Wed Jun 22 11:32:35 2005
From: Jdemarco at hudsonhealthplan.org (Jim DeMarco)
Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2005 12:32:35 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] OT: Sharepoint Security (SOLVED)
Message-ID: <08F823FD83787D4BA0B99CA580AD3C74016C3A5F@TTNEXCHCL2.hshhp.com>

The culprit seemed to be that the user(s) in question were members of a Desktop Administrators group that was set up for us.  Removing that group from the Sharepoint server machine seems to have corrected the issue (further testing pending).

Thanks to all,

Jim DeMarco

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Well I just set up a non-IT staff member with Read access and that's all he could do (read).  When I removed him from the site he could not access it any longer.  So it looks like it may be using Windows Security to authenticate users.  Unfortunately I need to limit even our IT staff in various sections of the site so I've got to get a work around together.

I'll keep you posted.

Thanks,

Jim DeMarco

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Subject: RE: [AccessD] OT: Sharepoint Security


Jim,
I'm a novice, but will become the SharePoint "Expert" when I change
jobs, in my company, next month.  I'm interested in the outcome of your
question.
A couple of random thoughts...
There are two levels of security for SharePoint.  They are Central
Administration and Site Administration rights.  Central take precedence
over site rights.  If a person is a member of the Central Administration
group which manages the settings for the Web Server and virtual servers,
they effectively have Administrative rights to the entire portal.
In Site Administration, IIRC, there is a toggle somewhere to designate a
person to have the same rights as the parent area or site.
Let me know if you have found the solution.
Regards,
Jim H.

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Subject: [AccessD] OT: Sharepoint Security

List,

I've done some Googling but I can't seem to find the answer to this odd
problem.  I set up a Sharepoint site as a test bed (Sharepoint Services
not Server) and gave a few users access.  No matter what rights I give
the users they have full admin rights to the sight.  I set up custom
security groups and the site is completely ignoring them.  To further
add to the mystery I removed on user (she is not a member of any
security group therefore should not have access to the site) and she can
still get in with full admin rights.  Is it possible that Sharepoint is
deferring to Windows rights?  These are all IT staff here and have more
liberal rights to our network than the average user.

Does anyone have a clue?  A push in the right direction would be
appreciated.

TIA

Jim DeMarco
Director of Application Development
Hudson Health Plan



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From Jim.Hale at FleetPride.com  Wed Jun 22 11:32:22 2005
From: Jim.Hale at FleetPride.com (Hale, Jim)
Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2005 11:32:22 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Classes not recognized in mda
Message-ID: <6A6AA9DF57E4F046BDA1E273BDDB6772337696@corp-es01.fleetpride.com>

Got it! I was pasting instead of inserting. It works now, Muchas Gracias.
BTW I reviewed the "sacred" framework discussion emails and found your
detailed description of how to move classes to libraries. For anyone who
wants to search the archives it is (surprise) "Framework Discussion - Moving
to a library". How did you discover this stuff? It is not discussed anywhere
else that I've seen. 

Jim Hale


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Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2005 11:08 AM
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Subject: RE: [AccessD] Classes not recognized in mda


Jim,

These things should not even be visible when you pull them back in.  You
MUST:

1) Delete the old class - make SURE you exported it first <grin>
2) INSERT a new (blank) class
3) INSERT the file into that class
4) SAVE the new class

When you do it this way you should not even be able to SEE the ATTRIBUTE
keyword.

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Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2005 11:59 AM
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The new class doesn't like the Attribute keyword. Am I missing a reference
perhaps? Jim Hale

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Subject: RE: [AccessD] Classes not recognized in mda


Yes, you have to:

1) Export the classes to text files
2) Edit the text file to set two properties
3) Delete the original class in your lib.
4) Insert a new class
5) Insert the file into that class.  
6) Save the new class.

The top of an exported class will look something like:

VERSION 1.0 CLASS
BEGIN
  MultiUse = -1  'True
END
Attribute VB_Name = "clsSysVars"
Attribute VB_GlobalNameSpace = False
Attribute VB_Creatable = False
Attribute VB_PredeclaredId = False
Attribute VB_Exposed = False
Option Compare Database
Option Explicit

You need to change it to look like:

Attribute VB_Name = "clsSysVars"
Attribute VB_GlobalNameSpace = False
Attribute VB_Creatable = True
Attribute VB_PredeclaredId = False
Attribute VB_Exposed = True

Notice all the stuff I got rid of, and also notice that I changed two
properties from False to True.

That should take care of you.

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Subject: [AccessD] Classes not recognized in mda


I have moved some classes and modules out of the front end into a code
library. I set the same references in the code library as in the front end.
In the front end I set a reference to the code library. The FE recognizes
the functions in the library modules fine, no problems but doesn't recognize
the classes (i.e. I get an error in the FE when I try to instantiate the
moved classes). The code ran fine when the classes resided in the front end.
I am obviously doing something simple wrong. Any suggestions? TIA Jim Hale

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From jmhecht at earthlink.net  Wed Jun 22 11:36:40 2005
From: jmhecht at earthlink.net (Joe Hecht)
Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2005 09:36:40 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Field Naming ( Just once I want to be ahead of JC )
Message-ID: <004c01c57748$91acf8b0$6401a8c0@laptop1>

When naming fields in table design view I try to prefix the field with
something to identify the source table i.e.:
 
Custfname
custLname
 
 
repfname
replname
 
Joe Hecht
Los Angeles CA
 


From accessd at shaw.ca  Wed Jun 22 11:40:16 2005
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2005 09:40:16 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] OT: Sharepoint Security (SOLVED)
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Message-ID: <0IIH00C93VMOBK@l-daemon>

Hi All:

Given that this question will seem simple and slightly ignorant... what is a
SharePoint Portal used for and what does it improve or replace.

Jim

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Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2005 9:33 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] OT: Sharepoint Security (SOLVED)

The culprit seemed to be that the user(s) in question were members of a
Desktop Administrators group that was set up for us.  Removing that group
from the Sharepoint server machine seems to have corrected the issue
(further testing pending).

Thanks to all,

Jim DeMarco

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Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2005 10:30 AM
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Subject: RE: [AccessD] OT: Sharepoint Security


Well I just set up a non-IT staff member with Read access and that's all he
could do (read).  When I removed him from the site he could not access it
any longer.  So it looks like it may be using Windows Security to
authenticate users.  Unfortunately I need to limit even our IT staff in
various sections of the site so I've got to get a work around together.

I'll keep you posted.

Thanks,

Jim DeMarco

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Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2005 10:08 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] OT: Sharepoint Security


Jim,
I'm a novice, but will become the SharePoint "Expert" when I change
jobs, in my company, next month.  I'm interested in the outcome of your
question.
A couple of random thoughts...
There are two levels of security for SharePoint.  They are Central
Administration and Site Administration rights.  Central take precedence
over site rights.  If a person is a member of the Central Administration
group which manages the settings for the Web Server and virtual servers,
they effectively have Administrative rights to the entire portal.
In Site Administration, IIRC, there is a toggle somewhere to designate a
person to have the same rights as the parent area or site.
Let me know if you have found the solution.
Regards,
Jim H.

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Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2005 8:04 AM
To: AccessD (E-mail)
Subject: [AccessD] OT: Sharepoint Security

List,

I've done some Googling but I can't seem to find the answer to this odd
problem.  I set up a Sharepoint site as a test bed (Sharepoint Services
not Server) and gave a few users access.  No matter what rights I give
the users they have full admin rights to the sight.  I set up custom
security groups and the site is completely ignoring them.  To further
add to the mystery I removed on user (she is not a member of any
security group therefore should not have access to the site) and she can
still get in with full admin rights.  Is it possible that Sharepoint is
deferring to Windows rights?  These are all IT staff here and have more
liberal rights to our network than the average user.

Does anyone have a clue?  A push in the right direction would be
appreciated.

TIA

Jim DeMarco
Director of Application Development
Hudson Health Plan



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From DWUTKA at marlow.com  Wed Jun 22 11:40:23 2005
From: DWUTKA at marlow.com (DWUTKA at marlow.com)
Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2005 11:40:23 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Field Naming ( Just once I want to be ahead of JC )
Message-ID: <123701F54509D9119A4F00D0B747349016D751@main2.marlow.com>

Not a bad idea.

Drew

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Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2005 11:37 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] Field Naming ( Just once I want to be ahead of JC )


When naming fields in table design view I try to prefix the field with
something to identify the source table i.e.:
 
Custfname
custLname
 
 
repfname
replname
 
Joe Hecht
Los Angeles CA
 
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From MarkBoyd at McBeeAssociates.com  Wed Jun 22 11:59:05 2005
From: MarkBoyd at McBeeAssociates.com (Mark Boyd)
Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2005 12:59:05 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Detect specific printer
Message-ID: <974F830FE464C14E8652F95E24DA663C0BF9FF@mail03.Mcbassoc.com>

Is there a way thru VBA to detect if a specific printer has been
installed?
I need to check if the PDF Writer is on the user's machine.  If not,
they'll be prompted to install it.
 
Thanks,
Mark Boyd
I/S Supervisor
McBee Associates, Inc.
 
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From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com  Wed Jun 22 11:56:23 2005
From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (John W. Colby)
Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2005 12:56:23 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Field Naming ( Just once I want to be ahead of JC )
In-Reply-To: <004c01c57748$91acf8b0$6401a8c0@laptop1>
Message-ID: <008501c5774b$551bb960$6c7aa8c0@ColbyM6805>

Good job Joe, my point exactly.

I have seen (and in fact am currently working on) too many tables where the
PK is just called PK or ID or something silly like that.  In the case I am
working on are named something real (TherapyLocationID) but that same field
name is used in several different tables, both as the PK and the FK in the
child tables.

The problem becomes when you try to search on "where is this field used",
without a table prefix in the field name, you get hits from every table
where that field name is used.  I currently am trying to straighten out a
mess where one table has the field TherapyLocationID as a FK. And it needs
to be removed entirely.  The therapy location is NOT one to one, thus there
is now a table that says where the therapy occurs, but in order to find
it... Well... Let's just say there about 100 hits only about 20 of which
have anything to do with the field in the table I need to modify.  I have to
search through all 100 of these forms, reports, modules etc to visually look
at which table that object is referencing when it uses TherapyLocationID.

Can you say PITA?

If all tables had a table prefix, this would not be an issue.

I personally use the first two characters of the table name if the name is a
single word:

Tbl child = 

CH_ID
CH_Lname
CH_Fname

Etc

tblPeople = 

PE_ID
PE_Lname
PE_Fname

Etc.

I use the first letter of each word if the name consists of more than one
word.  

tblInvoiceLineItem - 
ILI_ID
ILI_IDIN	(the FK holding the PK of the INvoice table

Doing this ensures that if I search for PE_ID, I will get ONLY hits from the
PEople table.  If I search for any field with ILI_XXXX I will get only hits
for items referencing the InvoiceLineItem table.

Notice that I then name all FKS with YY_IDXXXX

ILI_IDIN for example

In essence I take the PK name (IN_ID), remove the underscore and reverse the
ID and name part (IDIN) and place it immediately after the underscore
(ILI_IDIN).  

Why do I do this?  Because I push all IDs to the top of the table and then
all FKs look like

YY_IDAAA
YY_IDBB
YY_IDCCCC
YY_IDEEE

Etc.

ALL fields with _IDXXXX are an FK.

Just some things to think about.

John W. Colby
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Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2005 12:37 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] Field Naming ( Just once I want to be ahead of JC )


When naming fields in table design view I try to prefix the field with
something to identify the source table i.e.:
 
Custfname
custLname
 
 
repfname
replname
 
Joe Hecht
Los Angeles CA
 
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From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com  Wed Jun 22 11:57:24 2005
From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (John W. Colby)
Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2005 12:57:24 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Just Checking....
In-Reply-To: <E61FC1D4B1918244905B113C680BEA86873AB2@infoserver01.infostat.local>
Message-ID: <008601c5774b$766bdc80$6c7aa8c0@ColbyM6805>

GOOD, I rarely get to argue with you!

John W. Colby
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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Charlotte Foust
Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2005 12:12 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Just Checking....


OH NO!  Please don't, John!  I know you use one, but I OBJECT violently!

Charlotte Foust


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From: John W. Colby [mailto:jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2005 8:27 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Just Checking....


ROTFL.  Yea, I am getting old.

I am about to launch a field naming convention discussion so look out.
;-)

John W. Colby
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[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of DWUTKA at marlow.com
Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2005 11:21 AM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Just Checking....


Sheesh JC.....you really must be losing it with old age.... <grin>

What kind of statement is that?  Technically, no one could not use a naming
convention.  <grin>

Drew

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From: John W. Colby [mailto:jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com]
Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2005 6:08 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Just Checking....


Precisely so let's start one.  

Anyone who doesn't use a naming convention is a dolt.

;-)

John W. Colby
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[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of DWUTKA at marlow.com
Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2005 5:46 PM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Just Checking....


Nope, just busy...and there hasn't been anything good to argue
about.......we normally just feed off what gets posted.  It's not our fault
the other listers aren't posting juicy stuff to dig into!

Drew

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From: dmcafee at pacbell.net [mailto:dmcafee at pacbell.net]
Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2005 2:11 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Just Checking....


JC & Drew must have gone on vacation or called a truce ;)

:P



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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Jim Hewson
Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2005 11:39 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Just Checking....


I was thinking the same thing... 
I haven't received anything for about 24 hours!

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[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Bryan Carbonnell
Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2005 12:28 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: [AccessD] Just Checking....

Just checking to see if there is anyone out there or is AccessD down?

It's just too quite.

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From cfoust at infostatsystems.com  Wed Jun 22 12:21:04 2005
From: cfoust at infostatsystems.com (Charlotte Foust)
Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2005 10:21:04 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Just Checking....
Message-ID: <E61FC1D4B1918244905B113C680BEA86873AB4@infoserver01.infostat.local>

Sorry to disappoint you, but I name my fields to indicate their table.
I just object to elaborate field naming schemes complete with
underscores, capitalized prefixes, etc., etc., etc.  If that makes for
an argument, we're all hard up for diversions.

Charlotte Foust


-----Original Message-----
From: John W. Colby [mailto:jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2005 9:57 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Just Checking....


GOOD, I rarely get to argue with you!

John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com 

Contribute your unused CPU cycles to a good cause:
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-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Charlotte
Foust
Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2005 12:12 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Just Checking....


OH NO!  Please don't, John!  I know you use one, but I OBJECT violently!

Charlotte Foust


-----Original Message-----
From: John W. Colby [mailto:jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2005 8:27 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Just Checking....


ROTFL.  Yea, I am getting old.

I am about to launch a field naming convention discussion so look out.
;-)

John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com 

Contribute your unused CPU cycles to a good cause:
http://folding.stanford.edu/

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of
DWUTKA at marlow.com
Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2005 11:21 AM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Just Checking....


Sheesh JC.....you really must be losing it with old age.... <grin>

What kind of statement is that?  Technically, no one could not use a
naming convention.  <grin>

Drew

-----Original Message-----
From: John W. Colby [mailto:jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com]
Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2005 6:08 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Just Checking....


Precisely so let's start one.  

Anyone who doesn't use a naming convention is a dolt.

;-)

John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com 

Contribute your unused CPU cycles to a good cause:
http://folding.stanford.edu/

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
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DWUTKA at marlow.com
Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2005 5:46 PM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Just Checking....


Nope, just busy...and there hasn't been anything good to argue
about.......we normally just feed off what gets posted.  It's not our
fault the other listers aren't posting juicy stuff to dig into!

Drew

-----Original Message-----
From: dmcafee at pacbell.net [mailto:dmcafee at pacbell.net]
Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2005 2:11 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Just Checking....


JC & Drew must have gone on vacation or called a truce ;)

:P



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[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Jim Hewson
Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2005 11:39 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Just Checking....


I was thinking the same thing... 
I haven't received anything for about 24 hours!

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Carbonnell
Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2005 12:28 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: [AccessD] Just Checking....

Just checking to see if there is anyone out there or is AccessD down?

It's just too quite.

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From fhtapia at gmail.com  Wed Jun 22 12:26:35 2005
From: fhtapia at gmail.com (Francisco Tapia)
Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2005 10:26:35 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Just Checking....
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to fix your db's that are BOUND to be a proble ;-)

<rd&h>

On 6/22/05, John W. Colby <jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com> wrote:
> If I could figure out why unholy unbounders even exist...
> 
> ;-)
> 
> John W. Colby
> www.ColbyConsulting.com
> 
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> http://folding.stanford.edu/
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of DWUTKA at marlow.com
> Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2005 11:38 AM
> To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
> Subject: RE: [AccessD] Just Checking....
> 
> 
> Okay, now you are really slipping JC...giving me warning?????  What's next,
> you're pledge of unfaltering loyalty to the Unbounders?  ;)
> 
> Drew
> 
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> 
> 
> ROTFL.  Yea, I am getting old.
> 
> I am about to launch a field naming convention discussion so look out.  ;-)
> 
> John W. Colby
> www.ColbyConsulting.com
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> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of DWUTKA at marlow.com
> Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2005 11:21 AM
> To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
> Subject: RE: [AccessD] Just Checking....
> 
> 
> Sheesh JC.....you really must be losing it with old age.... <grin>
> 
> What kind of statement is that?  Technically, no one could not use a naming
> convention.  <grin>
> 
> Drew
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: John W. Colby [mailto:jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2005 6:08 PM
> To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
> Subject: RE: [AccessD] Just Checking....
> 
> 
> Precisely so let's start one.
> 
> Anyone who doesn't use a naming convention is a dolt.
> 
> ;-)
> 
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> www.ColbyConsulting.com
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> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of DWUTKA at marlow.com
> Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2005 5:46 PM
> To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
> Subject: RE: [AccessD] Just Checking....
> 
> 
> Nope, just busy...and there hasn't been anything good to argue
> about.......we normally just feed off what gets posted.  It's not our fault
> the other listers aren't posting juicy stuff to dig into!
> 
> Drew
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: dmcafee at pacbell.net [mailto:dmcafee at pacbell.net]
> Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2005 2:11 PM
> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> Subject: RE: [AccessD] Just Checking....
> 
> 
> JC & Drew must have gone on vacation or called a truce ;)
> 
> :P
> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Jim Hewson
> Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2005 11:39 AM
> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> Subject: RE: [AccessD] Just Checking....
> 
> 
> I was thinking the same thing...
> I haven't received anything for about 24 hours!
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Bryan Carbonnell
> Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2005 12:28 PM
> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> Subject: [AccessD] Just Checking....
> 
> Just checking to see if there is anyone out there or is AccessD down?
> 
> It's just too quite.
> 
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From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com  Wed Jun 22 12:27:46 2005
From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (John W. Colby)
Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2005 13:27:46 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Just Checking....
In-Reply-To: <E61FC1D4B1918244905B113C680BEA86873AB4@infoserver01.infostat.local>
Message-ID: <008701c5774f$b46fe180$6c7aa8c0@ColbyM6805>

Well, as long as a field name is unique...

John W. Colby
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-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Charlotte Foust
Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2005 1:21 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Just Checking....


Sorry to disappoint you, but I name my fields to indicate their table. I
just object to elaborate field naming schemes complete with underscores,
capitalized prefixes, etc., etc., etc.  If that makes for an argument, we're
all hard up for diversions.

Charlotte Foust


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From: John W. Colby [mailto:jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2005 9:57 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Just Checking....


GOOD, I rarely get to argue with you!

John W. Colby
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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Charlotte Foust
Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2005 12:12 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Just Checking....


OH NO!  Please don't, John!  I know you use one, but I OBJECT violently!

Charlotte Foust


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From: John W. Colby [mailto:jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2005 8:27 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Just Checking....


ROTFL.  Yea, I am getting old.

I am about to launch a field naming convention discussion so look out.
;-)

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[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of DWUTKA at marlow.com
Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2005 11:21 AM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Just Checking....


Sheesh JC.....you really must be losing it with old age.... <grin>

What kind of statement is that?  Technically, no one could not use a naming
convention.  <grin>

Drew

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From: John W. Colby [mailto:jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com]
Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2005 6:08 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Just Checking....


Precisely so let's start one.  

Anyone who doesn't use a naming convention is a dolt.

;-)

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Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2005 5:46 PM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Just Checking....


Nope, just busy...and there hasn't been anything good to argue
about.......we normally just feed off what gets posted.  It's not our fault
the other listers aren't posting juicy stuff to dig into!

Drew

-----Original Message-----
From: dmcafee at pacbell.net [mailto:dmcafee at pacbell.net]
Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2005 2:11 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Just Checking....


JC & Drew must have gone on vacation or called a truce ;)

:P



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[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Jim Hewson
Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2005 11:39 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Just Checking....


I was thinking the same thing... 
I haven't received anything for about 24 hours!

-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Bryan Carbonnell
Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2005 12:28 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: [AccessD] Just Checking....

Just checking to see if there is anyone out there or is AccessD down?

It's just too quite.

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From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com  Wed Jun 22 12:36:07 2005
From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (John W. Colby)
Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2005 13:36:07 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Classes not recognized in mda
In-Reply-To: <6A6AA9DF57E4F046BDA1E273BDDB6772337696@corp-es01.fleetpride.com>
Message-ID: <008801c57750$df1324f0$6c7aa8c0@ColbyM6805>

We all stand on the shoulders of giants.  In my case the giants were Shamil
and a couple of the old timers of Access whom I don't know (weren't on our
list) but who did so much "back when".

The next step up from a library is a framework.  Let me know when you are
ready for that step.

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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Hale, Jim
Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2005 12:32 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Classes not recognized in mda


Got it! I was pasting instead of inserting. It works now, Muchas Gracias.
BTW I reviewed the "sacred" framework discussion emails and found your
detailed description of how to move classes to libraries. For anyone who
wants to search the archives it is (surprise) "Framework Discussion - Moving
to a library". How did you discover this stuff? It is not discussed anywhere
else that I've seen. 

Jim Hale




From Jdemarco at hudsonhealthplan.org  Wed Jun 22 12:38:29 2005
From: Jdemarco at hudsonhealthplan.org (Jim DeMarco)
Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2005 13:38:29 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] OT: Sharepoint Security (SOLVED)
Message-ID: <08F823FD83787D4BA0B99CA580AD3C74016C3A66@TTNEXCHCL2.hshhp.com>

Here's a link to M$ for the answer: http://www.microsoft.com/windowsserver2003/technologies/sharepoint/default.mspx

In a nutshell it's a collaboration web site where teams can share documents in multiple libraries, share contacts, task lists, calendars and more.  It's easily customizable and a pretty cool tool IMHO.  You can set up your own user groups and customize access at every function level.  If you run Windows Server 2003 you have a copy of SP Services already.  The Portal version is the big brother and must be purchased.

HTH,

Jim DeMarco

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Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2005 12:40 PM
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Subject: RE: [AccessD] OT: Sharepoint Security (SOLVED)


Hi All:

Given that this question will seem simple and slightly ignorant... what is a
SharePoint Portal used for and what does it improve or replace.

Jim

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Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2005 9:33 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] OT: Sharepoint Security (SOLVED)

The culprit seemed to be that the user(s) in question were members of a
Desktop Administrators group that was set up for us.  Removing that group
from the Sharepoint server machine seems to have corrected the issue
(further testing pending).

Thanks to all,

Jim DeMarco

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Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2005 10:30 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] OT: Sharepoint Security


Well I just set up a non-IT staff member with Read access and that's all he
could do (read).  When I removed him from the site he could not access it
any longer.  So it looks like it may be using Windows Security to
authenticate users.  Unfortunately I need to limit even our IT staff in
various sections of the site so I've got to get a work around together.

I'll keep you posted.

Thanks,

Jim DeMarco

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[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Jim Hewson
Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2005 10:08 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] OT: Sharepoint Security


Jim,
I'm a novice, but will become the SharePoint "Expert" when I change
jobs, in my company, next month.  I'm interested in the outcome of your
question.
A couple of random thoughts...
There are two levels of security for SharePoint.  They are Central
Administration and Site Administration rights.  Central take precedence
over site rights.  If a person is a member of the Central Administration
group which manages the settings for the Web Server and virtual servers,
they effectively have Administrative rights to the entire portal.
In Site Administration, IIRC, there is a toggle somewhere to designate a
person to have the same rights as the parent area or site.
Let me know if you have found the solution.
Regards,
Jim H.

-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim DeMarco
Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2005 8:04 AM
To: AccessD (E-mail)
Subject: [AccessD] OT: Sharepoint Security

List,

I've done some Googling but I can't seem to find the answer to this odd
problem.  I set up a Sharepoint site as a test bed (Sharepoint Services
not Server) and gave a few users access.  No matter what rights I give
the users they have full admin rights to the sight.  I set up custom
security groups and the site is completely ignoring them.  To further
add to the mystery I removed on user (she is not a member of any
security group therefore should not have access to the site) and she can
still get in with full admin rights.  Is it possible that Sharepoint is
deferring to Windows rights?  These are all IT staff here and have more
liberal rights to our network than the average user.

Does anyone have a clue?  A push in the right direction would be
appreciated.

TIA

Jim DeMarco
Director of Application Development
Hudson Health Plan



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From bchacc at san.rr.com  Wed Jun 22 12:38:30 2005
From: bchacc at san.rr.com (Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software)
Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2005 10:38:30 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Open File Dialog Box Call Fails
References: <916187228923D311A6FE00A0CC3FAA30ABEC6B@ADGSERVER>
Message-ID: <017201c57751$34f142d0$6c01a8c0@HAL9004>

Bobby:

Thanks.  I'll forward mine to him and see what happens.

Rocky

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Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2005 8:06 AM
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Open File Dialog Box Call Fails


> You might try sending him your version and have him back his dll (or full
> system) up, unregister his version, copy yours to where his was, and
> register it.  This is a big YMMV.
>
> If his is different, you might could try the reverse on your system.  If 
> it
> worked, then recompile your app and then have him re-install.
>
> If the different versions is what is causing the problem, then you have 
> just
> entered that infamous place lovingly called "DLL Hell."
>
> I am just shooting in the dark here, but this is some of the stuff that I
> would investigate.
>
> Bobby
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Rocky Smolin -
> Beach Access Software
> Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2005 10:45 AM
> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> Cc: Ben Saltzer
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] Open File Dialog Box Call Fails
>
>
> I suppose he could check the properties on his comdlg32.dll.  If it 
> doesn't
> match the one I'm using (where the app still works) where could he find 
> the
> old one?
>
> TIA
>
> Rocky
>
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> From: "Bobby Heid" <bheid at appdevgrp.com>
> To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'"
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> Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2005 7:39 AM
> Subject: RE: [AccessD] Open File Dialog Box Call Fails
>
>
>>I wonder if it is some sort of service pack that has hosed something?
>>Or  maybe he installed something that put a different version of
>>comdlg32.dll?
>>
>> Bobby
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Rocky
>> Smolin - Beach Access Software
>> Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2005 10:26 AM
>> To: AccessD at databaseadvisors.com; dba-tech
>> Cc: Ben Saltzer
>> Subject: [AccessD] Open File Dialog Box Call Fails
>>
>>
>> Dear List:
>>
>> I have a client who's selling an app I wrote where I use the code from
>> the ADH to call the file open dialog box:
>>
>> Declare Function adh_apiGetOpenFileName Lib "comdlg32.dll" _  Alias
>> "GetOpenFileNameA" (ofn As tagOPENFILENAME) As Boolean
>>
>> I haven't worked on the app for several months and it's been very
>> stable until a couple of weeks ago when this call began to fail with
>> no error message.  Just didn't open the dialog box.  Then it failed on
>> another computer.  Then on another one.  Now no computer in his place
>> runs this api.
>>
>> I went over to his place and stepped through the code and sure enough
>> it goes to the api call and then goes right through the api call
>> without opening the dialog box.
>>
>> If we try to drop the common dialog control onto a form in design view
>> from
>> the additional tools list in the toolbox we get a message that says the
>> OLE
>> server isn't registered.
>>
>> So I need to figure out
>>
>> 1) how to get the OLE server registered (unregistered first I suppose)
>> and see if that is somehow hosing the file open dialog box
>> 2) figure out if there's a problem with comdlg32.dll
>> 3) see if I can determine why this app suddenly went south so that it
>> doesn't happen at one of his customer sites.
>>
>> He's using Access 2000 SP-3 but also fails in AXP.  The app fails on
>> both W2K and WXP.  He's pretty careful about virus scanning.  I don't
>> think it is a virus even though it behaves like one.  Is it possible
>> that it got hosed by an automatic windows update?
>>
>> Any clue as to what's going on here would be greatly appreciated.
>>
>> MTIA,
>>
>> Rocky Smolin
>> Beach Access Software
>> http://www.e-z-mrp.com
>> 858-259-4334
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From mwp.reid at qub.ac.uk  Wed Jun 22 12:45:00 2005
From: mwp.reid at qub.ac.uk (Martin Reid)
Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2005 18:45:00 +0100
Subject: [AccessD] OT: Sharepoint Security (SOLVED)
References: <0IIH00C93VMOBK@l-daemon>
Message-ID: <002b01c57752$1d87f480$0100a8c0@Martin>

SPS provides the ability to search and index many WSS sites. It sites on top 
of WSS and allows you to pull them all together. Its a real cool tool for 
example full file store search, personal sites, auidences etc etc

I have sent you a presentation on the very topic I am giving on Friday LOL


Martin


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Subject: RE: [AccessD] OT: Sharepoint Security (SOLVED)


> Hi All:
>
> Given that this question will seem simple and slightly ignorant... what is 
> a
> SharePoint Portal used for and what does it improve or replace.
>
> Jim
>
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> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim DeMarco
> Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2005 9:33 AM
> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> Subject: RE: [AccessD] OT: Sharepoint Security (SOLVED)
>
> The culprit seemed to be that the user(s) in question were members of a
> Desktop Administrators group that was set up for us.  Removing that group
> from the Sharepoint server machine seems to have corrected the issue
> (further testing pending).
>
> Thanks to all,
>
> Jim DeMarco
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Jim DeMarco
> Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2005 10:30 AM
> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> Subject: RE: [AccessD] OT: Sharepoint Security
>
>
> Well I just set up a non-IT staff member with Read access and that's all 
> he
> could do (read).  When I removed him from the site he could not access it
> any longer.  So it looks like it may be using Windows Security to
> authenticate users.  Unfortunately I need to limit even our IT staff in
> various sections of the site so I've got to get a work around together.
>
> I'll keep you posted.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Jim DeMarco
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Jim Hewson
> Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2005 10:08 AM
> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> Subject: RE: [AccessD] OT: Sharepoint Security
>
>
> Jim,
> I'm a novice, but will become the SharePoint "Expert" when I change
> jobs, in my company, next month.  I'm interested in the outcome of your
> question.
> A couple of random thoughts...
> There are two levels of security for SharePoint.  They are Central
> Administration and Site Administration rights.  Central take precedence
> over site rights.  If a person is a member of the Central Administration
> group which manages the settings for the Web Server and virtual servers,
> they effectively have Administrative rights to the entire portal.
> In Site Administration, IIRC, there is a toggle somewhere to designate a
> person to have the same rights as the parent area or site.
> Let me know if you have found the solution.
> Regards,
> Jim H.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim DeMarco
> Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2005 8:04 AM
> To: AccessD (E-mail)
> Subject: [AccessD] OT: Sharepoint Security
>
> List,
>
> I've done some Googling but I can't seem to find the answer to this odd
> problem.  I set up a Sharepoint site as a test bed (Sharepoint Services
> not Server) and gave a few users access.  No matter what rights I give
> the users they have full admin rights to the sight.  I set up custom
> security groups and the site is completely ignoring them.  To further
> add to the mystery I removed on user (she is not a member of any
> security group therefore should not have access to the site) and she can
> still get in with full admin rights.  Is it possible that Sharepoint is
> deferring to Windows rights?  These are all IT staff here and have more
> liberal rights to our network than the average user.
>
> Does anyone have a clue?  A push in the right direction would be
> appreciated.
>
> TIA
>
> Jim DeMarco
> Director of Application Development
> Hudson Health Plan
>
>
>
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From cfoust at infostatsystems.com  Wed Jun 22 12:48:12 2005
From: cfoust at infostatsystems.com (Charlotte Foust)
Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2005 10:48:12 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Just Checking....
Message-ID: <E61FC1D4B1918244905B113C680BEA86873AB5@infoserver01.infostat.local>

I used to design in Vision (before Microsoft took the forward
engineering out of the Pro version :-<) and in the pre-MS versions,
field names had to be unique.  The exception was when you created a
relationships and it automatically inserted a foreign key into the child
table.  That wasn't unique because it wasn't considered another field,
simply a pointer to another table.  Anyhow, I got into the habit way
back.

Charlotte Foust


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From: John W. Colby [mailto:jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2005 10:28 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Just Checking....


Well, as long as a field name is unique...

John W. Colby
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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Charlotte
Foust
Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2005 1:21 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Just Checking....


Sorry to disappoint you, but I name my fields to indicate their table. I
just object to elaborate field naming schemes complete with underscores,
capitalized prefixes, etc., etc., etc.  If that makes for an argument,
we're all hard up for diversions.

Charlotte Foust


-----Original Message-----
From: John W. Colby [mailto:jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2005 9:57 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Just Checking....


GOOD, I rarely get to argue with you!

John W. Colby
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-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Charlotte
Foust
Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2005 12:12 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Just Checking....


OH NO!  Please don't, John!  I know you use one, but I OBJECT violently!

Charlotte Foust


-----Original Message-----
From: John W. Colby [mailto:jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2005 8:27 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Just Checking....


ROTFL.  Yea, I am getting old.

I am about to launch a field naming convention discussion so look out.
;-)

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-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of
DWUTKA at marlow.com
Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2005 11:21 AM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Just Checking....


Sheesh JC.....you really must be losing it with old age.... <grin>

What kind of statement is that?  Technically, no one could not use a
naming convention.  <grin>

Drew

-----Original Message-----
From: John W. Colby [mailto:jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com]
Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2005 6:08 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Just Checking....


Precisely so let's start one.  

Anyone who doesn't use a naming convention is a dolt.

;-)

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-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of
DWUTKA at marlow.com
Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2005 5:46 PM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Just Checking....


Nope, just busy...and there hasn't been anything good to argue
about.......we normally just feed off what gets posted.  It's not our
fault the other listers aren't posting juicy stuff to dig into!

Drew

-----Original Message-----
From: dmcafee at pacbell.net [mailto:dmcafee at pacbell.net]
Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2005 2:11 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Just Checking....


JC & Drew must have gone on vacation or called a truce ;)

:P



-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Jim Hewson
Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2005 11:39 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Just Checking....


I was thinking the same thing... 
I haven't received anything for about 24 hours!

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Bryan
Carbonnell
Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2005 12:28 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: [AccessD] Just Checking....

Just checking to see if there is anyone out there or is AccessD down?

It's just too quite.

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From Jim.Hale at FleetPride.com  Wed Jun 22 12:49:58 2005
From: Jim.Hale at FleetPride.com (Hale, Jim)
Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2005 12:49:58 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Classes not recognized in mda
Message-ID: <6A6AA9DF57E4F046BDA1E273BDDB6772337698@corp-es01.fleetpride.com>

I've started reviewing the framework discussion. I'll raise my hand when I
get stuck, thanks
Jim Hale

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Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2005 12:36 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Classes not recognized in mda


We all stand on the shoulders of giants.  In my case the giants were Shamil
and a couple of the old timers of Access whom I don't know (weren't on our
list) but who did so much "back when".

The next step up from a library is a framework.  Let me know when you are
ready for that step.

John W. Colby
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Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2005 12:32 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Classes not recognized in mda


Got it! I was pasting instead of inserting. It works now, Muchas Gracias.
BTW I reviewed the "sacred" framework discussion emails and found your
detailed description of how to move classes to libraries. For anyone who
wants to search the archives it is (surprise) "Framework Discussion - Moving
to a library". How did you discover this stuff? It is not discussed anywhere
else that I've seen. 

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From Jdemarco at hudsonhealthplan.org  Wed Jun 22 12:55:45 2005
From: Jdemarco at hudsonhealthplan.org (Jim DeMarco)
Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2005 13:55:45 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] OT: Sharepoint Security (SOLVED)
Message-ID: <08F823FD83787D4BA0B99CA580AD3C74016C3A67@TTNEXCHCL2.hshhp.com>

True (SPS is the portal version for the uninitiated).  And I didn't even mention the cool hooks into Office 2003 where you can connect Access to DBs posted on a site or link Excel sheets for real time data updates.

JD

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Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2005 1:45 PM
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SPS provides the ability to search and index many WSS sites. It sites on top 
of WSS and allows you to pull them all together. Its a real cool tool for example full file store search, personal sites, auidences etc etc

I have sent you a presentation on the very topic I am giving on Friday LOL


Martin


----- Original Message ----- 
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Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2005 5:40 PM
Subject: RE: [AccessD] OT: Sharepoint Security (SOLVED)


> Hi All:
>
> Given that this question will seem simple and slightly ignorant... what is 
> a
> SharePoint Portal used for and what does it improve or replace.
>
> Jim
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
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> Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2005 9:33 AM
> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> Subject: RE: [AccessD] OT: Sharepoint Security (SOLVED)
>
> The culprit seemed to be that the user(s) in question were members of a
> Desktop Administrators group that was set up for us.  Removing that group
> from the Sharepoint server machine seems to have corrected the issue
> (further testing pending).
>
> Thanks to all,
>
> Jim DeMarco
>
> -----Original Message-----
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> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Jim DeMarco
> Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2005 10:30 AM
> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> Subject: RE: [AccessD] OT: Sharepoint Security
>
>
> Well I just set up a non-IT staff member with Read access and that's all > he
> could do (read).  When I removed him from the site he could not access it
> any longer.  So it looks like it may be using Windows Security to
> authenticate users.  Unfortunately I need to limit even our IT staff in
> various sections of the site so I've got to get a work around together.
>
> I'll keep you posted.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Jim DeMarco
>
> -----Original Message-----
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> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Jim Hewson
> Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2005 10:08 AM
> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> Subject: RE: [AccessD] OT: Sharepoint Security
>
>
> Jim,
> I'm a novice, but will become the SharePoint "Expert" when I change
> jobs, in my company, next month.  I'm interested in the outcome of your
> question.
> A couple of random thoughts...
> There are two levels of security for SharePoint.  They are Central
> Administration and Site Administration rights.  Central take precedence
> over site rights.  If a person is a member of the Central Administration
> group which manages the settings for the Web Server and virtual servers,
> they effectively have Administrative rights to the entire portal.
> In Site Administration, IIRC, there is a toggle somewhere to designate a
> person to have the same rights as the parent area or site.
> Let me know if you have found the solution.
> Regards,
> Jim H.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim DeMarco
> Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2005 8:04 AM
> To: AccessD (E-mail)
> Subject: [AccessD] OT: Sharepoint Security
>
> List,
>
> I've done some Googling but I can't seem to find the answer to this odd
> problem.  I set up a Sharepoint site as a test bed (Sharepoint Services
> not Server) and gave a few users access.  No matter what rights I give
> the users they have full admin rights to the sight.  I set up custom
> security groups and the site is completely ignoring them.  To further
> add to the mystery I removed on user (she is not a member of any
> security group therefore should not have access to the site) and she can
> still get in with full admin rights.  Is it possible that Sharepoint is
> deferring to Windows rights?  These are all IT staff here and have more
> liberal rights to our network than the average user.
>
> Does anyone have a clue?  A push in the right direction would be
> appreciated.
>
> TIA
>
> Jim DeMarco
> Director of Application Development
> Hudson Health Plan
>
>
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From JRojas at tnco-inc.com  Wed Jun 22 12:57:13 2005
From: JRojas at tnco-inc.com (Joe Rojas)
Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2005 13:57:13 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] OT: Sharepoint Security (SOLVED)
Message-ID: <0CC84C9461AE6445AD5A602001C41C4B05A374@mercury.tnco-inc.com>

Hi Martin,

Could you please send me a copy of that presentation also?
SPS/WSS looks very nice but I am having a hard time understanding the
differences between WSS and SPS.

Thanks!
JR
jrojas at tnco-inc.com

-----Original Message-----
From: Martin Reid [mailto:mwp.reid at qub.ac.uk]
Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2005 1:45 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] OT: Sharepoint Security (SOLVED)

SPS provides the ability to search and index many WSS sites. It sites on top
of WSS and allows you to pull them all together. Its a real cool tool for
example full file store search, personal sites, auidences etc etc

I have sent you a presentation on the very topic I am giving on Friday LOL


Martin


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From: "Jim Lawrence" <accessd at shaw.ca>
To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'"
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Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2005 5:40 PM
Subject: RE: [AccessD] OT: Sharepoint Security (SOLVED)


> Hi All:
>
> Given that this question will seem simple and slightly ignorant... what is
> a
> SharePoint Portal used for and what does it improve or replace.
>
> Jim
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim DeMarco
> Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2005 9:33 AM
> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> Subject: RE: [AccessD] OT: Sharepoint Security (SOLVED)
>
> The culprit seemed to be that the user(s) in question were members of a
> Desktop Administrators group that was set up for us.  Removing that group
> from the Sharepoint server machine seems to have corrected the issue
> (further testing pending).
>
> Thanks to all,
>
> Jim DeMarco
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Jim DeMarco
> Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2005 10:30 AM
> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> Subject: RE: [AccessD] OT: Sharepoint Security
>
>
> Well I just set up a non-IT staff member with Read access and that's all
> he
> could do (read).  When I removed him from the site he could not access it
> any longer.  So it looks like it may be using Windows Security to
> authenticate users.  Unfortunately I need to limit even our IT staff in
> various sections of the site so I've got to get a work around together.
>
> I'll keep you posted.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Jim DeMarco
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Jim Hewson
> Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2005 10:08 AM
> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> Subject: RE: [AccessD] OT: Sharepoint Security
>
>
> Jim,
> I'm a novice, but will become the SharePoint "Expert" when I change
> jobs, in my company, next month.  I'm interested in the outcome of your
> question.
> A couple of random thoughts...
> There are two levels of security for SharePoint.  They are Central
> Administration and Site Administration rights.  Central take precedence
> over site rights.  If a person is a member of the Central Administration
> group which manages the settings for the Web Server and virtual servers,
> they effectively have Administrative rights to the entire portal.
> In Site Administration, IIRC, there is a toggle somewhere to designate a
> person to have the same rights as the parent area or site.
> Let me know if you have found the solution.
> Regards,
> Jim H.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim DeMarco
> Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2005 8:04 AM
> To: AccessD (E-mail)
> Subject: [AccessD] OT: Sharepoint Security
>
> List,
>
> I've done some Googling but I can't seem to find the answer to this odd
> problem.  I set up a Sharepoint site as a test bed (Sharepoint Services
> not Server) and gave a few users access.  No matter what rights I give
> the users they have full admin rights to the sight.  I set up custom
> security groups and the site is completely ignoring them.  To further
> add to the mystery I removed on user (she is not a member of any
> security group therefore should not have access to the site) and she can
> still get in with full admin rights.  Is it possible that Sharepoint is
> deferring to Windows rights?  These are all IT staff here and have more
> liberal rights to our network than the average user.
>
> Does anyone have a clue?  A push in the right direction would be
> appreciated.
>
> TIA
>
> Jim DeMarco
> Director of Application Development
> Hudson Health Plan
>
>
>
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From jmhecht at earthlink.net  Wed Jun 22 13:00:39 2005
From: jmhecht at earthlink.net (Joe Hecht)
Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2005 11:00:39 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Good Code Bad Code Question
Message-ID: <000001c57754$4d4e6a30$6401a8c0@laptop1>

The following line of code works correctly
 
Me.txtCost.Value = Me.cboPartNum.Column(2)
 
 
When I try to compile the code I get an error message that .cboPartNum    
 
Method or Data member not found.  Any Idea what is up?
 
Option Explicit is set
 
Thanks
 
 
Joe Hecht
Los Angeles CA
 


From mwp.reid at qub.ac.uk  Wed Jun 22 13:01:18 2005
From: mwp.reid at qub.ac.uk (Martin Reid)
Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2005 19:01:18 +0100
Subject: [AccessD] OT: Sharepoint Security (SOLVED)
References: <08F823FD83787D4BA0B99CA580AD3C74016C3A67@TTNEXCHCL2.hshhp.com>
Message-ID: <011401c57754$64dd7380$0100a8c0@Martin>

Hi Jim

I did a paper for Microsoft on this last year.

http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/default.asp?url=/library/en-us/odc_fp2003_ta/html/odc_FP_whatsnew2003.asp

http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/default.asp?url=/library/en-us/odc_fp2003_ta/html/odc_FP_whatsnew2003.asp


May be interesting


Martin




----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Jim DeMarco" <Jdemarco at hudsonhealthplan.org>
To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving" 
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2005 6:55 PM
Subject: RE: [AccessD] OT: Sharepoint Security (SOLVED)


> True (SPS is the portal version for the uninitiated).  And I didn't even 
> mention the cool hooks into Office 2003 where you can connect Access to 
> DBs posted on a site or link Excel sheets for real time data updates.
>
> JD
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Martin Reid
> Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2005 1:45 PM
> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] OT: Sharepoint Security (SOLVED)
>
>
> SPS provides the ability to search and index many WSS sites. It sites on 
> top
> of WSS and allows you to pull them all together. Its a real cool tool for 
> example full file store search, personal sites, auidences etc etc
>
> I have sent you a presentation on the very topic I am giving on Friday LOL
>
>
> Martin
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Jim Lawrence" <accessd at shaw.ca>
> To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'"
> <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2005 5:40 PM
> Subject: RE: [AccessD] OT: Sharepoint Security (SOLVED)
>
>
>> Hi All:
>>
>> Given that this question will seem simple and slightly ignorant... what 
>> is
>> a
>> SharePoint Portal used for and what does it improve or replace.
>>
>> Jim
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim DeMarco
>> Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2005 9:33 AM
>> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
>> Subject: RE: [AccessD] OT: Sharepoint Security (SOLVED)
>>
>> The culprit seemed to be that the user(s) in question were members of a
>> Desktop Administrators group that was set up for us.  Removing that group
>> from the Sharepoint server machine seems to have corrected the issue
>> (further testing pending).
>>
>> Thanks to all,
>>
>> Jim DeMarco
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Jim DeMarco
>> Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2005 10:30 AM
>> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
>> Subject: RE: [AccessD] OT: Sharepoint Security
>>
>>
>> Well I just set up a non-IT staff member with Read access and that's all 
>>  > he
>> could do (read).  When I removed him from the site he could not access it
>> any longer.  So it looks like it may be using Windows Security to
>> authenticate users.  Unfortunately I need to limit even our IT staff in
>> various sections of the site so I've got to get a work around together.
>>
>> I'll keep you posted.
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Jim DeMarco
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Jim Hewson
>> Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2005 10:08 AM
>> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
>> Subject: RE: [AccessD] OT: Sharepoint Security
>>
>>
>> Jim,
>> I'm a novice, but will become the SharePoint "Expert" when I change
>> jobs, in my company, next month.  I'm interested in the outcome of your
>> question.
>> A couple of random thoughts...
>> There are two levels of security for SharePoint.  They are Central
>> Administration and Site Administration rights.  Central take precedence
>> over site rights.  If a person is a member of the Central Administration
>> group which manages the settings for the Web Server and virtual servers,
>> they effectively have Administrative rights to the entire portal.
>> In Site Administration, IIRC, there is a toggle somewhere to designate a
>> person to have the same rights as the parent area or site.
>> Let me know if you have found the solution.
>> Regards,
>> Jim H.
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim DeMarco
>> Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2005 8:04 AM
>> To: AccessD (E-mail)
>> Subject: [AccessD] OT: Sharepoint Security
>>
>> List,
>>
>> I've done some Googling but I can't seem to find the answer to this odd
>> problem.  I set up a Sharepoint site as a test bed (Sharepoint Services
>> not Server) and gave a few users access.  No matter what rights I give
>> the users they have full admin rights to the sight.  I set up custom
>> security groups and the site is completely ignoring them.  To further
>> add to the mystery I removed on user (she is not a member of any
>> security group therefore should not have access to the site) and she can
>> still get in with full admin rights.  Is it possible that Sharepoint is
>> deferring to Windows rights?  These are all IT staff here and have more
>> liberal rights to our network than the average user.
>>
>> Does anyone have a clue?  A push in the right direction would be
>> appreciated.
>>
>> TIA
>>
>> Jim DeMarco
>> Director of Application Development
>> Hudson Health Plan
>>
>>
>>
>> ************************************************************************
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>> recipient, and may contain information from Hudson Health Plan (HHP)
>> that is confidential or privileged.  If you are not the intended
>> recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, copying,
>> distribution or use of the contents of this message is strictly
>> prohibited.  If you have received this message in error or are not the
>> named recipient, please notify us immediately, either by contacting the
>> sender at the electronic mail address noted above or calling HHP at
>> (914) 631-1611. If you are not the intended recipient, please do not
>> forward this email to anyone, and delete and destroy all copies of this
>> message.  Thank You".
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>> immediately, either by contacting the sender at the electronic mail
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>> recipient, please do not forward this email to anyone, and delete and
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From cfoust at infostatsystems.com  Wed Jun 22 13:03:35 2005
From: cfoust at infostatsystems.com (Charlotte Foust)
Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2005 11:03:35 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Just Checking....
Message-ID: <E61FC1D4B1918244905B113C680BEA86873AB6@infoserver01.infostat.local>

Oops!  Make that Visio (no N on the end).  Blame the muscle relaxants
for back spasms, please. <g>

Charlotte Foust


-----Original Message-----
From: Charlotte Foust 
Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2005 10:48 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Just Checking....


I used to design in Vision (before Microsoft took the forward
engineering out of the Pro version :-<) and in the pre-MS versions,
field names had to be unique.  The exception was when you created a
relationships and it automatically inserted a foreign key into the child
table.  That wasn't unique because it wasn't considered another field,
simply a pointer to another table.  Anyhow, I got into the habit way
back.

Charlotte Foust


-----Original Message-----
From: John W. Colby [mailto:jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2005 10:28 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Just Checking....


Well, as long as a field name is unique...

John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com 

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-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Charlotte
Foust
Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2005 1:21 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Just Checking....


Sorry to disappoint you, but I name my fields to indicate their table. I
just object to elaborate field naming schemes complete with underscores,
capitalized prefixes, etc., etc., etc.  If that makes for an argument,
we're all hard up for diversions.

Charlotte Foust


-----Original Message-----
From: John W. Colby [mailto:jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2005 9:57 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Just Checking....


GOOD, I rarely get to argue with you!

John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com 

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-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Charlotte
Foust
Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2005 12:12 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Just Checking....


OH NO!  Please don't, John!  I know you use one, but I OBJECT violently!

Charlotte Foust


-----Original Message-----
From: John W. Colby [mailto:jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2005 8:27 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Just Checking....


ROTFL.  Yea, I am getting old.

I am about to launch a field naming convention discussion so look out.
;-)

John W. Colby
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-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of
DWUTKA at marlow.com
Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2005 11:21 AM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Just Checking....


Sheesh JC.....you really must be losing it with old age.... <grin>

What kind of statement is that?  Technically, no one could not use a
naming convention.  <grin>

Drew

-----Original Message-----
From: John W. Colby [mailto:jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com]
Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2005 6:08 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Just Checking....


Precisely so let's start one.  

Anyone who doesn't use a naming convention is a dolt.

;-)

John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com 

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-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of
DWUTKA at marlow.com
Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2005 5:46 PM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Just Checking....


Nope, just busy...and there hasn't been anything good to argue
about.......we normally just feed off what gets posted.  It's not our
fault the other listers aren't posting juicy stuff to dig into!

Drew

-----Original Message-----
From: dmcafee at pacbell.net [mailto:dmcafee at pacbell.net]
Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2005 2:11 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Just Checking....


JC & Drew must have gone on vacation or called a truce ;)

:P



-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Jim Hewson
Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2005 11:39 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Just Checking....


I was thinking the same thing... 
I haven't received anything for about 24 hours!

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Bryan
Carbonnell
Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2005 12:28 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: [AccessD] Just Checking....

Just checking to see if there is anyone out there or is AccessD down?

It's just too quite.

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From jmhecht at earthlink.net  Wed Jun 22 13:04:29 2005
From: jmhecht at earthlink.net (Joe Hecht)
Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2005 11:04:29 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Field Naming ( Just once I want to be ahead of JC )
In-Reply-To: <008501c5774b$551bb960$6c7aa8c0@ColbyM6805>
Message-ID: <001101c57754$d64a29f0$6401a8c0@laptop1>

My day is made.

My work is blessed by John.

Joe Hecht
Los Angeles CA

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of John W. Colby
Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2005 9:56 AM
To: access at joe2.endjunk.com; 'Access Developers discussion and problem
solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Field Naming ( Just once I want to be ahead of JC )

Good job Joe, my point exactly.





From Jdemarco at hudsonhealthplan.org  Wed Jun 22 13:05:56 2005
From: Jdemarco at hudsonhealthplan.org (Jim DeMarco)
Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2005 14:05:56 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] OT: Sharepoint Security (SOLVED)
Message-ID: <08F823FD83787D4BA0B99CA580AD3C74016C3A68@TTNEXCHCL2.hshhp.com>

Very nice.  Thanks.

Jim

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[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Martin Reid
Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2005 2:01 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] OT: Sharepoint Security (SOLVED)


Hi Jim

I did a paper for Microsoft on this last year.

http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/default.asp?url=/library/en-us/odc_fp2003_ta/html/odc_FP_whatsnew2003.asp

http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/default.asp?url=/library/en-us/odc_fp2003_ta/html/odc_FP_whatsnew2003.asp


May be interesting


Martin




----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Jim DeMarco" <Jdemarco at hudsonhealthplan.org>
To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving" 
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2005 6:55 PM
Subject: RE: [AccessD] OT: Sharepoint Security (SOLVED)


> True (SPS is the portal version for the uninitiated).  And I didn't even > mention the cool hooks into Office 2003 where you can connect Access to > DBs posted on a site or link Excel sheets for real time data updates.
>
> JD
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Martin Reid
> Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2005 1:45 PM
> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] OT: Sharepoint Security (SOLVED)
>
>
> SPS provides the ability to search and index many WSS sites. It sites on > top
> of WSS and allows you to pull them all together. Its a real cool tool for > example full file store search, personal sites, auidences etc etc
>
> I have sent you a presentation on the very topic I am giving on Friday LOL
>
>
> Martin
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Jim Lawrence" <accessd at shaw.ca>
> To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'"
> <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2005 5:40 PM
> Subject: RE: [AccessD] OT: Sharepoint Security (SOLVED)
>
>
>> Hi All:
>>
>> Given that this question will seem simple and slightly ignorant... what >> is
>> a
>> SharePoint Portal used for and what does it improve or replace.
>>
>> Jim
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim DeMarco
>> Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2005 9:33 AM
>> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
>> Subject: RE: [AccessD] OT: Sharepoint Security (SOLVED)
>>
>> The culprit seemed to be that the user(s) in question were members of a
>> Desktop Administrators group that was set up for us.  Removing that group
>> from the Sharepoint server machine seems to have corrected the issue
>> (further testing pending).
>>
>> Thanks to all,
>>
>> Jim DeMarco
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Jim DeMarco
>> Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2005 10:30 AM
>> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
>> Subject: RE: [AccessD] OT: Sharepoint Security
>>
>>
>> Well I just set up a non-IT staff member with Read access and that's all >>  > he
>> could do (read).  When I removed him from the site he could not access it
>> any longer.  So it looks like it may be using Windows Security to
>> authenticate users.  Unfortunately I need to limit even our IT staff in
>> various sections of the site so I've got to get a work around together.
>>
>> I'll keep you posted.
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Jim DeMarco
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Jim Hewson
>> Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2005 10:08 AM
>> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
>> Subject: RE: [AccessD] OT: Sharepoint Security
>>
>>
>> Jim,
>> I'm a novice, but will become the SharePoint "Expert" when I change
>> jobs, in my company, next month.  I'm interested in the outcome of your
>> question.
>> A couple of random thoughts...
>> There are two levels of security for SharePoint.  They are Central
>> Administration and Site Administration rights.  Central take precedence
>> over site rights.  If a person is a member of the Central Administration
>> group which manages the settings for the Web Server and virtual servers,
>> they effectively have Administrative rights to the entire portal.
>> In Site Administration, IIRC, there is a toggle somewhere to designate a
>> person to have the same rights as the parent area or site.
>> Let me know if you have found the solution.
>> Regards,
>> Jim H.
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim DeMarco
>> Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2005 8:04 AM
>> To: AccessD (E-mail)
>> Subject: [AccessD] OT: Sharepoint Security
>>
>> List,
>>
>> I've done some Googling but I can't seem to find the answer to this odd
>> problem.  I set up a Sharepoint site as a test bed (Sharepoint Services
>> not Server) and gave a few users access.  No matter what rights I give
>> the users they have full admin rights to the sight.  I set up custom
>> security groups and the site is completely ignoring them.  To further
>> add to the mystery I removed on user (she is not a member of any
>> security group therefore should not have access to the site) and she can
>> still get in with full admin rights.  Is it possible that Sharepoint is
>> deferring to Windows rights?  These are all IT staff here and have more
>> liberal rights to our network than the average user.
>>
>> Does anyone have a clue?  A push in the right direction would be
>> appreciated.
>>
>> TIA
>>
>> Jim DeMarco
>> Director of Application Development
>> Hudson Health Plan
>>
>>
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From jmhecht at earthlink.net  Wed Jun 22 13:10:49 2005
From: jmhecht at earthlink.net (Joe Hecht)
Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2005 11:10:49 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Field Naming ( Just once I want to be ahead of JC )
In-Reply-To: <123701F54509D9119A4F00D0B747349016D751@main2.marlow.com>
Message-ID: <001201c57755$b8d6d660$6401a8c0@laptop1>

My gosh, I had an idea that drew liked too.

Joe Hecht
Los Angeles CA

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of DWUTKA at marlow.com
 Subject: RE: [AccessD] Field Naming ( Just once I want to be ahead of JC )

Not a bad idea.

Drew

-----Original Message-----
From: Joe Hecht [mailto:jmhecht at earthlink.net]
Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2005 11:37 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] Field Naming ( Just once I want to be ahead of JC )


When naming fields in table design view I try to prefix the field with
something to identify the source table i.e.:
 
Custfname
custLname
 
 
repfname
replname
 
Joe Hecht
Los Angeles CA
 
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From newsgrps at dalyn.co.nz  Wed Jun 22 13:15:04 2005
From: newsgrps at dalyn.co.nz (David Emerson)
Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2005 06:15:04 +1200
Subject: [AccessD] Linking Graph to Report
In-Reply-To: <6.2.1.2.0.20050622131317.031142c0@mail.dalyn.co.nz>
References: <6.2.1.2.0.20050622131317.031142c0@mail.dalyn.co.nz>
Message-ID: <6.2.1.2.0.20050623061343.03205eb0@mail.dalyn.co.nz>

Following up on yesterday's question, I know that there was a bug with A97 
and linked charts but I am not aware of it still being an issue with AXP.

David

At 22/06/2005, you wrote:
>Access XP adp, SQL2000.
>
>I have a report with a graph on it.  The graph is to show the number of 
>days it took to process client information.  Each month should have its 
>own graph on a separate page.  The reports source is a stored procedure 
>which provides the months as an integer in the form yyyymm.
>
>SELECT ttmpPlanTrackGraph.ConsultPlanFranchise, ttmpPlanTrackGraph.YrMth
>FROM ttmpPlanTrackGraph
>GROUP BY ttmpPlanTrackGraph.ConsultPlanFranchise, ttmpPlanTrackGraph.YrMth
>
>The graphs source is also a stored procedure which includes a field with 
>the month in the same format.
>
>SELECT ttmpPlanTrackGraph.ClientName, ttmpPlanTrackGraph.FranDays AS [Work 
>Days in Fran], ttmpPlanTrackGraph.BurDays AS [Work Days in Bureau], 
>ttmpPlanTrackGraph.ConsultPlanFranchise, ttmpPlanTrackGraph.YrMth
>FROM ttmpPlanTrackGraph
>
>I have set the Link Child Field and Link Master fields both to YrMth.  The 
>report shows a different page for each month, however each graph shows all 
>records, not just the one for the pages month.
>
>How do I get only the relevant month's data showing on each page?
>
>Regards
>
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From jmhecht at earthlink.net  Wed Jun 22 13:15:20 2005
From: jmhecht at earthlink.net (Joe Hecht)
Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2005 11:15:20 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Field Names -> Setting control names
Message-ID: <001301c57756$5a781880$6401a8c0@laptop1>

As long as we are here does anyone have a wizard or code or better a John
Colby that can
 
1.	Look at the field name
2.	Look at the property sheet in the table
3.	Create a form that can take a good guess to what the control is
a.	Look at the field  name and
 
    Name the controls when the form is built
                        CboCustName
                        Txtcity 
 
And so on.
 
Joe Hecht
Los Angeles CA
 


From cfoust at infostatsystems.com  Wed Jun 22 13:15:39 2005
From: cfoust at infostatsystems.com (Charlotte Foust)
Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2005 11:15:39 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Good Code Bad Code Question
Message-ID: <E61FC1D4B1918244905B113C680BEA86873AB7@infoserver01.infostat.local>

You lost me, Joe.  You say it works correctly but you get a compile
error??  If you get a compile error, it shouldn't work.  Have you tried
decompile and recompile?  I have to say that in later versions of
Access, I've had better luck using the afterupdate of a combo to put a
non-value column value into another control.  Have you tried that?

Charlotte Foust


-----Original Message-----
From: Joe Hecht [mailto:jmhecht at earthlink.net] 
Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2005 11:01 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] Good Code Bad Code Question


The following line of code works correctly
 
Me.txtCost.Value = Me.cboPartNum.Column(2)
 
 
When I try to compile the code I get an error message that .cboPartNum

 
Method or Data member not found.  Any Idea what is up?
 
Option Explicit is set
 
Thanks
 
 
Joe Hecht
Los Angeles CA
 
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From DWUTKA at marlow.com  Wed Jun 22 13:13:53 2005
From: DWUTKA at marlow.com (DWUTKA at marlow.com)
Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2005 13:13:53 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Field Naming ( Just once I want to be ahead of JC )
Message-ID: <123701F54509D9119A4F00D0B747349016D755@main2.marlow.com>

Go buy a lottery ticket now.... <grin>

Drew

-----Original Message-----
From: Joe Hecht [mailto:jmhecht at earthlink.net]
Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2005 1:11 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Field Naming ( Just once I want to be ahead of JC
)


My gosh, I had an idea that drew liked too.

Joe Hecht
Los Angeles CA

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of DWUTKA at marlow.com
 Subject: RE: [AccessD] Field Naming ( Just once I want to be ahead of JC )

Not a bad idea.

Drew

-----Original Message-----
From: Joe Hecht [mailto:jmhecht at earthlink.net]
Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2005 11:37 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] Field Naming ( Just once I want to be ahead of JC )


When naming fields in table design view I try to prefix the field with
something to identify the source table i.e.:
 
Custfname
custLname
 
 
repfname
replname
 
Joe Hecht
Los Angeles CA
 
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From cfoust at infostatsystems.com  Wed Jun 22 13:17:55 2005
From: cfoust at infostatsystems.com (Charlotte Foust)
Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2005 11:17:55 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Field Naming ( Just once I want to be ahead of JC )
Message-ID: <E61FC1D4B1918244905B113C680BEA86873AB8@infoserver01.infostat.local>

Back in your moment of glory, Joe.  And has anyone checked the
temperature in Hell lately?  Something that both John and Drew think is
a good idea suggests some kind of unexpected occurrence.  LOL

Charlotte Foust


-----Original Message-----
From: Joe Hecht [mailto:jmhecht at earthlink.net] 
Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2005 11:11 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Field Naming ( Just once I want to be ahead of JC
)


My gosh, I had an idea that drew liked too.

Joe Hecht
Los Angeles CA

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of
DWUTKA at marlow.com
 Subject: RE: [AccessD] Field Naming ( Just once I want to be ahead of
JC )

Not a bad idea.

Drew

-----Original Message-----
From: Joe Hecht [mailto:jmhecht at earthlink.net]
Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2005 11:37 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] Field Naming ( Just once I want to be ahead of JC )


When naming fields in table design view I try to prefix the field with
something to identify the source table i.e.:
 
Custfname
custLname
 
 
repfname
replname
 
Joe Hecht
Los Angeles CA
 
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From martyconnelly at shaw.ca  Wed Jun 22 13:20:56 2005
From: martyconnelly at shaw.ca (MartyConnelly)
Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2005 11:20:56 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Question about Animated Graphics
References: <200506180246.j5I2kcR21562@databaseadvisors.com>
Message-ID: <42B9AC08.2020505@shaw.ca>

Well animated graphics seem to be possible from vba
Just run this snippet  in debug window
Please don't hit me ;)

With Assistant
    .On = True
    .Visible = True
    .Move xLeft:=400, yTop:=300
    .MoveWhenInTheWay = True
    .TipOfDay = True
    'need reference to MS Office 11.0 Library
   ' .Animation = msoAnimationGreeting
   .Animation = 2
End With


Arthur Fuller wrote:

>Bummer.... O well.
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Bobby Heid
>Sent: June 17, 2005 8:48 AM
>To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
>Subject: RE: [AccessD] Question about Animated Graphics
>
>Those are animated Gif files which are not supported in Access (well at
>least version 2000 and less).  I think that there are some 3rd-party
>controls that will let you host an animated Gif.
>
>Bobby
>
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>[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Arthur Fuller
>Sent: Thursday, June 16, 2005 10:31 PM
>To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
>Subject: [AccessD] Question about Animated Graphics
>
>
>I found some cool graphics appropriate to an app I'm building now, but so
>far I can't make them work correctly. For a peek at the graphics, see
>http://www.animation-central.com/gears.htm. The graphics there move. When I
>download one graphic and drop it on an Access form, it's static not
>animated. I want the animation! How do I achieve this?
>
>TIA,
>Arthur
>
>  
>

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From kevinb at bepc.com  Wed Jun 22 13:24:30 2005
From: kevinb at bepc.com (Kevin Bachmeier)
Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2005 13:24:30 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Good Code Bad Code Question
Message-ID: <5C210A2F04B76B4AB2A18E6FEB81713401CDA669@HDQ06.bepc.net>

Try using the '!' instead of the '.' for the control reference:  
 Me!txtCost.Value = Me!cboPartNum.Column(2)
Versus:
 Me.txtCost.Value = Me.cboPartNum.Column(2)

-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Joe Hecht
Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2005 1:01 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] Good Code Bad Code Question

The following line of code works correctly
 
Me.txtCost.Value = Me.cboPartNum.Column(2)
 
 
When I try to compile the code I get an error message that .cboPartNum

 
Method or Data member not found.  Any Idea what is up?
 
Option Explicit is set
 
Thanks
 
 
Joe Hecht
Los Angeles CA
 
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From artful at rogers.com  Wed Jun 22 13:29:07 2005
From: artful at rogers.com (Arthur Fuller)
Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2005 14:29:07 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Question about Animated Graphics
In-Reply-To: <42B9AC08.2020505@shaw.ca>
Message-ID: <200506221829.j5MIT9R17944@databaseadvisors.com>

Well, that clearly works, but I think I'll give you a smack upside the
temple anyway LOL. (I wonder if there is a more universally hated developer
in the world than the author(s) of these various assistants.)

So you have demonstrated that we can invoked the Assistant from Access.
Upsizing the question, is this sort of approach possible with other
animations? Case in point -- the gears inside a torn-open skin, that revolve
in synch. Can I use your code to apply to such an animated JPG, and if so,
how?

TIA,
Arthur

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of MartyConnelly
Sent: June 22, 2005 2:21 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Question about Animated Graphics

Well animated graphics seem to be possible from vba
Just run this snippet  in debug window
Please don't hit me ;)

With Assistant
    .On = True
    .Visible = True
    .Move xLeft:=400, yTop:=300
    .MoveWhenInTheWay = True
    .TipOfDay = True
    'need reference to MS Office 11.0 Library
   ' .Animation = msoAnimationGreeting
   .Animation = 2
End With




From artful at rogers.com  Wed Jun 22 13:34:46 2005
From: artful at rogers.com (Arthur Fuller)
Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2005 14:34:46 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Field Naming ( Just once I want to be ahead of JC )
In-Reply-To: <001201c57755$b8d6d660$6401a8c0@laptop1>
Message-ID: <200506221834.j5MIYlR19422@databaseadvisors.com>

My $.02...

I hate such naming conventions, for three reasons:
a) they defeat the natural logic of the various relationship-finding
wizards;
b) there is no need to prefix the column names since you can do so
unambiguously using the table name as a prefix (i.e. Customers.CustomerID =
Orders.CustomerID).
c) the prefixes hide the relationships while admittedly revealing the table
sources... but if we are really going to go in this direction, I would
rather use suffixes (i.e. CustomerID_Customers, CustomerID_Orders,
CustomerID_Payments etc.) -- so they are logically grouped together
according to domain type rather than table name.

Arthur

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Joe Hecht
Sent: June 22, 2005 2:11 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Field Naming ( Just once I want to be ahead of JC )

My gosh, I had an idea that drew liked too.

Joe Hecht
Los Angeles CA

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[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of DWUTKA at marlow.com
 Subject: RE: [AccessD] Field Naming ( Just once I want to be ahead of JC )

Not a bad idea.

Drew

-----Original Message-----
From: Joe Hecht [mailto:jmhecht at earthlink.net]
Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2005 11:37 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] Field Naming ( Just once I want to be ahead of JC )


When naming fields in table design view I try to prefix the field with
something to identify the source table i.e.:
 
Custfname
custLname
 
 
repfname
replname
 
Joe Hecht
Los Angeles CA
 
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From jmhecht at earthlink.net  Wed Jun 22 13:37:25 2005
From: jmhecht at earthlink.net (Joe Hecht)
Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2005 11:37:25 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Good Code Bad Code Question
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Message-ID: <001801c57759$70406430$6401a8c0@laptop1>

See inline


Subject: RE: [AccessD] Good Code Bad Code Question

You lost me, Joe.  You say it works correctly but you get a compile
error?  If you get a compile error, it shouldn't work. 

^ Yes I agree

Have you tried decompile and recompile? 

^ I have read posts here but maybe I am thick.(Well I am heavy  : )) I do
not understand how to decompile and recompile


I have to say that in later versions of Access, I've had better luck using
the afterupdate of a combo to put a non-value column value into another
control.  Have you tried that?

^That is where the code is.

Charlotte Foust
Thanks

-----Original Message-----
From: Joe Hecht [mailto:jmhecht at earthlink.net] 
Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2005 11:01 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] Good Code Bad Code Question


The following line of code works correctly
 
Me.txtCost.Value = Me.cboPartNum.Column(2)
 
 
When I try to compile the code I get an error message that .cboPartNum

 
Method or Data member not found.  Any Idea what is up?
 
Option Explicit is set
 
Thanks
 
 
Joe Hecht
Los Angeles CA
 
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From jmhecht at earthlink.net  Wed Jun 22 13:40:43 2005
From: jmhecht at earthlink.net (Joe Hecht)
Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2005 11:40:43 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Field Naming ( Just once I want to be ahead of JC )
In-Reply-To: <123701F54509D9119A4F00D0B747349016D755@main2.marlow.com>
Message-ID: <001d01c57759$e5f48850$6401a8c0@laptop1>

On my Way

Joe Hecht
Los Angeles CA

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of DWUTKA at marlow.com
Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2005 11:14 AM
To: access at joe2.endjunk.com; accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Field Naming ( Just once I want to be ahead of JC )

Go buy a lottery ticket now.... <grin>

Drew

-----Original Message-----
From: Joe Hecht [mailto:jmhecht at earthlink.net]
Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2005 1:11 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Field Naming ( Just once I want to be ahead of JC
)


My gosh, I had an idea that drew liked too.

Joe Hecht
Los Angeles CA

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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of DWUTKA at marlow.com
 Subject: RE: [AccessD] Field Naming ( Just once I want to be ahead of JC )

Not a bad idea.

Drew

-----Original Message-----
From: Joe Hecht [mailto:jmhecht at earthlink.net]
Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2005 11:37 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] Field Naming ( Just once I want to be ahead of JC )


When naming fields in table design view I try to prefix the field with
something to identify the source table i.e.:
 
Custfname
custLname
 
 
repfname
replname
 
Joe Hecht
Los Angeles CA
 
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From jmhecht at earthlink.net  Wed Jun 22 13:41:30 2005
From: jmhecht at earthlink.net (Joe Hecht)
Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2005 11:41:30 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Field Naming ( Just once I want to be ahead of JC )
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Message-ID: <001e01c5775a$020410b0$6401a8c0@laptop1>

It is getting worm here in lost angels. ( Los Angeles)

Joe Hecht
Los Angeles CA

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Charlotte Foust
Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2005 11:18 AM
To: access at joe2.endjunk.com; Access Developers discussion and problem
solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Field Naming ( Just once I want to be ahead of JC )

Back in your moment of glory, Joe.  And has anyone checked the
temperature in Hell lately?  Something that both John and Drew think is
a good idea suggests some kind of unexpected occurrence.  LOL

Charlotte Foust


-----Original Message-----
From: Joe Hecht [mailto:jmhecht at earthlink.net] 
Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2005 11:11 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Field Naming ( Just once I want to be ahead of JC
)


My gosh, I had an idea that drew liked too.

Joe Hecht
Los Angeles CA

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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of
DWUTKA at marlow.com
 Subject: RE: [AccessD] Field Naming ( Just once I want to be ahead of
JC )

Not a bad idea.

Drew

-----Original Message-----
From: Joe Hecht [mailto:jmhecht at earthlink.net]
Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2005 11:37 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] Field Naming ( Just once I want to be ahead of JC )


When naming fields in table design view I try to prefix the field with
something to identify the source table i.e.:
 
Custfname
custLname
 
 
repfname
replname
 
Joe Hecht
Los Angeles CA
 
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From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com  Wed Jun 22 13:53:36 2005
From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (John W. Colby)
Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2005 14:53:36 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Field Naming ( Just once I want to be ahead of JC )
In-Reply-To: <200506221834.j5MIYlR19422@databaseadvisors.com>
Message-ID: <008f01c5775b$b1fe00b0$6c7aa8c0@ColbyM6805>

1) Try doing a find on a field name used all over the damned database and
then come back and tell me how much you hate it.
2) Relationship finding wizards are for wusses who don't create explicit
relationships (should be shot BTW).
3) <there is no need to prefix the column names since you can do so
unambiguously using the table name as a prefix (i.e. Customers.CustomerID =
Orders.CustomerID).

Yes, e3xcept that there are a TON of places where this doesn't work such as
the field that a control is bound to.  Try searching for Orders.CustomerID
and you won't find all the places where just CustomerID is used.

>The prefixes hide the relationships while admittedly revealing the table
sources... but if we are really going to go in this direction, I would
rather use suffixes (i.e. CustomerID_Customers, CustomerID_Orders,
CustomerID_Payments etc.) -- so they are logically grouped together
according to domain type rather than table name.

I know you are into suffixes, but this isn't something that you are going to
see in a tab window or something so it is not going to help there.

Here's you change back.  ;-)

John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com 

Contribute your unused CPU cycles to a good cause:
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-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Arthur Fuller
Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2005 2:35 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Field Naming ( Just once I want to be ahead of JC )


My $.02...

I hate such naming conventions, for three reasons:
a) they defeat the natural logic of the various relationship-finding
wizards;
b) there is no need to prefix the column names since you can do so
unambiguously using the table name as a prefix (i.e. Customers.CustomerID =
Orders.CustomerID).
c) the prefixes hide the relationships while admittedly revealing the table
sources... but if we are really going to go in this direction, I would
rather use suffixes (i.e. CustomerID_Customers, CustomerID_Orders,
CustomerID_Payments etc.) -- so they are logically grouped together
according to domain type rather than table name.

Arthur

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Joe Hecht
Sent: June 22, 2005 2:11 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Field Naming ( Just once I want to be ahead of JC )

My gosh, I had an idea that drew liked too.

Joe Hecht
Los Angeles CA

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[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of DWUTKA at marlow.com
 Subject: RE: [AccessD] Field Naming ( Just once I want to be ahead of JC )

Not a bad idea.

Drew

-----Original Message-----
From: Joe Hecht [mailto:jmhecht at earthlink.net]
Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2005 11:37 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] Field Naming ( Just once I want to be ahead of JC )


When naming fields in table design view I try to prefix the field with
something to identify the source table i.e.:
 
Custfname
custLname
 
 
repfname
replname
 
Joe Hecht
Los Angeles CA
 
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From pedro at plex.nl  Wed Jun 22 13:54:19 2005
From: pedro at plex.nl (Pedro Janssen)
Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2005 20:54:19 +0200
Subject: [AccessD] invalid number of arguments
References: <30BC111F638EB54082001A7E7282FE41114D45@elmo.co.montgomery.ny.us><007b01c57128$6c07acc0$fac581d5@pedro><00ba01c571b1$155f3bc0$0202a8c0@default><002001c57736$2e2e4210$fac581d5@pedro>
	<032e01c5773d$2e85d3c0$0202a8c0@default>
Message-ID: <005401c5775b$f2701c50$fac581d5@pedro>

Hello Michael,

I don't know if you are married, but my wife can be nagging at my head about
finishing this database for here.

I am not sure that i understand you!
Why using a Append query with an autonumbered field.

I will give you a small structure of the tables involved:


"commercial database linked table"

DEBSTM
Nummer        = Text  (but al Id's are numbers)    =  Primary Key
Adres
Plaats


i need following table

tblDEBITEUR
DebID         = Number   (Long Integer)
Postadres
Woonplaats


I need datatype = number because the filtering on this field otherwise isn't
going to be right.


Can you explain more on basis from this structure?


Pedro Janssen






----- Original Message -----
From: "Michael R Mattys" <mmattys at rochester.rr.com>
To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving"
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Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2005 5:15 PM
Subject: Re: [AccessD] invalid number of arguments


> Hi Pedro,
>
> <Snip & Reformat>
>
> - In this (commercial) database ... i can't change anything.
> - don't want to ad each new client in two different databases.
> - want to use the client table from the commercial database (clientID's
> identical).
> - clients [DEBSTM] can be linked to the "brick" database [tblDebiteur].
>
> > I don't want to use a query from this linked table, to adjust the names
> > because i then have to adjust al other query's and tables.
> > Using the same names for the table and fields would be the best way.
>
>
> > Pedro Janssen
>
> Hi Pedro,
>
> Nagging? :)
>
> An append query to an autonumbered table would be best.
> Leave in the text ClientID and use that as criteria in the query
> to make sure there are no duplicates. Alias the fields desired.
> You know macros have no error handling, right?
>
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From martyconnelly at shaw.ca  Wed Jun 22 14:03:51 2005
From: martyconnelly at shaw.ca (MartyConnelly)
Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2005 12:03:51 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] OT: Sharepoint Security (SOLVED)
References: <0IIH00C93VMOBK@l-daemon>
Message-ID: <42B9B617.8080403@shaw.ca>

I have found you can store ,update and read access tables on a 
sharepoint server
unfortunately my time ran out on the MS test site a few months back.
Wouldn't mind finding another free test one
In Access 2003 you can use soap via web class, direct xmlhttp or 
transferdatabase
to transfer tables or even documents xls or .doc


Sub WWSupload()
On Error GoTo errout

DoCmd.TransferDatabase transfertype:=acExport, databasetype:="WSS", _
                       
databasename:="http://mconnelly.sharepointsite.com", _
                       objecttype:=acTable, Source:="Household Inventory", _
                       Destination:="Household Inventory A", 
structureonly:=False
errout:
Debug.Print Err.Number & "-" & Err.Description
'http://mconnelly.sharepointsite.com/_vti_bin/Lists.asmx
End Sub

Sub WWSuploadPics()
On Error GoTo errout

DoCmd.TransferDatabase transfertype:=acExport, databasetype:="WSS", _
                       
databasename:="http://mconnelly.sharepointsite.com", _
                       objecttype:=acTable, Source:="Employees", _
                       Destination:="Employees", structureonly:=False
errout:
Debug.Print Err.Number & "-" & Err.Description

End Sub


 Sub Click()
On Error GoTo Err_Command8_Click
' To see methods of call
'http://www.xmethods.com/detail.html?id=8
'http://www.xmltoday.com/examples/soap/translate.psp
Dim URL As String
Dim http As New MSXML2.XMLHTTP
Dim objResult As New MSXML2.DOMDocument
Dim objStyle As New MSXML2.DOMDocument
Dim strEnvelopeBegin As String
Dim strEnvelopeEnd As String
Dim xmlReq As String
Dim s As String
Dim strReturned As String
Dim strQuery As String

  s = "<?xml version=""1.0""?>" & vbCrLf
 
    URL = "http://mconnelly.sharepointsite.com/_vti_bin/Lists.asmx"
   
strEnvelopeBegin = "<soap:Envelope " & vbCrLf & _
" xmlns:xsi=""http://www.w3.org/2001/XMLSchema-instance""" & vbCrLf & _
" xmlns:xsd=""http://www.w3.org/2001/XMLSchema""" & vbCrLf & _
" xmlns:soap=""http://schemas.xmlsoap.org/soap/envelope/""> " & vbCrLf & _
" <soap:Body> <GetListCollection 
xmlns=""http://schemas.microsoft.com/sharepoint/soap/"" />"
strEnvelopeEnd = vbCrLf & " </soap:Body> </soap:Envelope>"

    xmlReq = s & strEnvelopeBegin & strEnvelopeEnd
       Debug.Print xmlReq
     '  Me!Text0 = xmlReq
     '  Me!Text2 = URL
   
    http.Open "POST", URL, False
    'http.setRequestHeader "Accept", "text/xml"
    http.setRequestHeader "Content-Type", "text/xml"
   ' http.setRequestHeader "Cache-Control", "no-cache"
    http.setRequestHeader "SOAPAction", 
"http://schemas.microsoft.com/sharepoint/soap/GetListCollection"
   ' http.setRequestHeader "SOAPMethodName", "GetListCollection"

    http.send xmlReq

    Debug.Print http.responseText; Len(http.responseText)
    Debug.Print http.Status; http.statusText
    WriteFile "C:\Access files\sharepoint\" & "test" & _
       Format(Now, "yyyymmddhhmmss") & ".xml", http.responseText

     Debug.Print http.responseBody; Len(http.responseBody)
    ' Debug.Print http.responseXML
    'objResult = new ActiveXObject ("Microsoft.XMLDOM")
    objResult.async = False
    objResult.Load http.responseText
    'strQuery = 
"SOAP:Envelope/SOAP:Body/<namesp13:getTranslationResponse/input"
     strQuery = "SOAP:Envelope/SOAP:Body/"
    strReturned = objResult.selectSingleNode(strQuery).Text
    Debug.Print "*" & strReturned & "*"
  Set http = Nothing
    ''objStyle = new ActiveXObject ("Microsoft.XMLDOM")
    'objStyle.async = False
    'objStyle.Load ("http://212.179.15.36/" + style)
    'Document.all.Message.innerHTML = objResult.transformNode(objStyle)
    Debug.Print "got result"
    'Debug.Print objResult.transformNode(objStyle)
    'mLargeStr = objResult.transformNode(objStyle)

Exit_Command8_Click:
    Exit Sub

Err_Command8_Click:
    MsgBox Err.Description
    Resume Exit_Command8_Click
   
End Sub

' WriteFile "C:\Access files\xmltests\strout" & Format(Now, 
"yyyymmddhhmmss") & ".xml", strOut


Public Sub WriteFile(ByVal sFileName As String, ByVal sContents As String)
' Dump XML  String to File for debugging
    Dim fhFile As Integer
    fhFile = FreeFile
   ' Debug.Print "Length of string=" & Len(sContents)
    Open sFileName For Output As #fhFile
    Print #fhFile, sContents;
    Close #fhFile
    Debug.Print "Out File" & sFileName
End Sub

Jim Lawrence wrote:

>Hi All:
>
>Given that this question will seem simple and slightly ignorant... what is a
>SharePoint Portal used for and what does it improve or replace.
>
>Jim
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim DeMarco
>Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2005 9:33 AM
>To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
>Subject: RE: [AccessD] OT: Sharepoint Security (SOLVED)
>
>The culprit seemed to be that the user(s) in question were members of a
>Desktop Administrators group that was set up for us.  Removing that group
>from the Sharepoint server machine seems to have corrected the issue
>(further testing pending).
>
>Thanks to all,
>
>Jim DeMarco
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Jim DeMarco
>Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2005 10:30 AM
>To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
>Subject: RE: [AccessD] OT: Sharepoint Security
>
>
>Well I just set up a non-IT staff member with Read access and that's all he
>could do (read).  When I removed him from the site he could not access it
>any longer.  So it looks like it may be using Windows Security to
>authenticate users.  Unfortunately I need to limit even our IT staff in
>various sections of the site so I've got to get a work around together.
>
>I'll keep you posted.
>
>Thanks,
>
>Jim DeMarco
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Jim Hewson
>Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2005 10:08 AM
>To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
>Subject: RE: [AccessD] OT: Sharepoint Security
>
>
>Jim,
>I'm a novice, but will become the SharePoint "Expert" when I change
>jobs, in my company, next month.  I'm interested in the outcome of your
>question.
>A couple of random thoughts...
>There are two levels of security for SharePoint.  They are Central
>Administration and Site Administration rights.  Central take precedence
>over site rights.  If a person is a member of the Central Administration
>group which manages the settings for the Web Server and virtual servers,
>they effectively have Administrative rights to the entire portal.
>In Site Administration, IIRC, there is a toggle somewhere to designate a
>person to have the same rights as the parent area or site.
>Let me know if you have found the solution.
>Regards,
>Jim H.
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim DeMarco
>Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2005 8:04 AM
>To: AccessD (E-mail)
>Subject: [AccessD] OT: Sharepoint Security
>
>List,
>
>I've done some Googling but I can't seem to find the answer to this odd
>problem.  I set up a Sharepoint site as a test bed (Sharepoint Services
>not Server) and gave a few users access.  No matter what rights I give
>the users they have full admin rights to the sight.  I set up custom
>security groups and the site is completely ignoring them.  To further
>add to the mystery I removed on user (she is not a member of any
>security group therefore should not have access to the site) and she can
>still get in with full admin rights.  Is it possible that Sharepoint is
>deferring to Windows rights?  These are all IT staff here and have more
>liberal rights to our network than the average user.
>
>Does anyone have a clue?  A push in the right direction would be
>appreciated.
>
>TIA
>
>Jim DeMarco
>Director of Application Development
>Hudson Health Plan
>
>
>
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From jmhecht at earthlink.net  Wed Jun 22 14:07:13 2005
From: jmhecht at earthlink.net (Joe Hecht)
Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2005 12:07:13 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Field Naming ( Just once I want to be ahead of JC )
In-Reply-To: <008f01c5775b$b1fe00b0$6c7aa8c0@ColbyM6805>
Message-ID: <001f01c5775d$99f8a400$6401a8c0@laptop1>

John,

2) Relationship finding wizards are for wusses who don't create explicit
relationships (should be shot BTW).


I set relationships in either the relationship window or when I build
queries. Is that where you do it?

Have not seen a relationship finding Wizard?

Joe





From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com  Wed Jun 22 14:08:11 2005
From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (John W. Colby)
Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2005 15:08:11 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Field Naming ( Just once I want to be ahead of JC )
In-Reply-To: <001f01c5775d$99f8a400$6401a8c0@laptop1>
Message-ID: <009001c5775d$bb886830$6c7aa8c0@ColbyM6805>

The relationship window specifically.

John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com 

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Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2005 3:07 PM
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Subject: RE: [AccessD] Field Naming ( Just once I want to be ahead of JC )


John,

2) Relationship finding wizards are for wusses who don't create explicit
relationships (should be shot BTW).


I set relationships in either the relationship window or when I build
queries. Is that where you do it?

Have not seen a relationship finding Wizard?

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From martyconnelly at shaw.ca  Wed Jun 22 14:20:31 2005
From: martyconnelly at shaw.ca (MartyConnelly)
Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2005 12:20:31 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Detect specific printer
References: <974F830FE464C14E8652F95E24DA663C0BF9FF@mail03.Mcbassoc.com>
Message-ID: <42B9B9FF.7030003@shaw.ca>

This code example should get you started have a look at this,
Access 2002 + uses Printer object
Below Access 2002 you need to use API calls to PrintDev routines

http://allenbrowne.com/AppPrintMgt.html
Printer Selection Utility Allen Browne
If you look down the page there are links to Albert Kallal's  site
for Access 97 and 2000 printer selection methods


Mark Boyd wrote:

>Is there a way thru VBA to detect if a specific printer has been
>installed?
>I need to check if the PDF Writer is on the user's machine.  If not,
>they'll be prompted to install it.
> 
>Thanks,
>Mark Boyd
>I/S Supervisor
>McBee Associates, Inc.
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From MarkBoyd at McBeeAssociates.com  Wed Jun 22 14:37:13 2005
From: MarkBoyd at McBeeAssociates.com (Mark Boyd)
Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2005 15:37:13 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Detect specific printer
Message-ID: <974F830FE464C14E8652F95E24DA663C0BFA05@mail03.Mcbassoc.com>

Thanks Marty.  I was able to create a work-around.
I use some of Ken Ketz's 'defaultprt.zip' code to change the default
printer to the PDF Writer.  Then, I use Access' Printer object to see if
the default printer was changed.  If the user doesn't have the PDF
Writer installed, the default printer will stay the same.
This way, I can throw a message to the screen prompting the user to
install the appropriate software.

Thanks again,
Mark Boyd
I/S Supervisor
McBee Associates, Inc.
610/964-9680 x15

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Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2005 3:21 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Detect specific printer

This code example should get you started have a look at this, Access
2002 + uses Printer object Below Access 2002 you need to use API calls
to PrintDev routines

http://allenbrowne.com/AppPrintMgt.html
Printer Selection Utility Allen Browne
If you look down the page there are links to Albert Kallal's  site for
Access 97 and 2000 printer selection methods


Mark Boyd wrote:

>Is there a way thru VBA to detect if a specific printer has been 
>installed?
>I need to check if the PDF Writer is on the user's machine.  If not, 
>they'll be prompted to install it.
> 
>Thanks,
>Mark Boyd
>I/S Supervisor
>McBee Associates, Inc.
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From cfoust at infostatsystems.com  Wed Jun 22 14:48:18 2005
From: cfoust at infostatsystems.com (Charlotte Foust)
Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2005 12:48:18 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Good Code Bad Code Question
Message-ID: <E61FC1D4B1918244905B113C680BEA8689A46D@infoserver01.infostat.local>

To decompile, you start Access with a command line /decompile argument.
Any command line argument requires the full path to the executable be in
the shortcut or the command line arg is ignored.  Then if you open a
database, it will decompile.  The recompile is just going to the VBE and
using Debug-->Compile, but do this after closing the Access session and
restarting normally, without the /decompile switch.

If you hover the mouse over Me.cboPartNum.Column(2) in the code, what do
you see in the tooltip?  And for that matter, how many columns does
cboPartNum have?  Column numbering in the collection starts at zero, so
Me.cboPartNum.Column(2) refers to the third column in the combobox.

Charlotte Foust


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Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2005 11:37 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Good Code Bad Code Question


See inline


Subject: RE: [AccessD] Good Code Bad Code Question

You lost me, Joe.  You say it works correctly but you get a compile
error?  If you get a compile error, it shouldn't work. 

^ Yes I agree

Have you tried decompile and recompile? 

^ I have read posts here but maybe I am thick.(Well I am heavy  : )) I
do not understand how to decompile and recompile


I have to say that in later versions of Access, I've had better luck
using the afterupdate of a combo to put a non-value column value into
another control.  Have you tried that?

^That is where the code is.

Charlotte Foust
Thanks

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Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2005 11:01 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] Good Code Bad Code Question


The following line of code works correctly
 
Me.txtCost.Value = Me.cboPartNum.Column(2)
 
 
When I try to compile the code I get an error message that .cboPartNum

 
Method or Data member not found.  Any Idea what is up?
 
Option Explicit is set
 
Thanks
 
 
Joe Hecht
Los Angeles CA
 
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From cfoust at infostatsystems.com  Wed Jun 22 14:57:12 2005
From: cfoust at infostatsystems.com (Charlotte Foust)
Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2005 12:57:12 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Good Code Bad Code Question
Message-ID: <E61FC1D4B1918244905B113C680BEA8689A46F@infoserver01.infostat.local>

Joe,

To decompile, use a command line argument in opening the database.  That
means you have to fully reference the path of the Access executable and
the full path of the target database or the /decompile switch will be
ignored.  After you open the Access database that way, close the Access
session, then reopen the database normally without the decompile switch,
go to the VBE and use Debug-->Compile... To recompile the app.  This
clears out some crud that may otherwise cause you grief.

There was a suggestion about using a bang instead of a dot in
Me.cboPartNum.Column(2) and I encourage you to try that without delay
because I have found that there are places and times in Access where you
must do so.  If that solves the problem, you're ahead of the game.  Also
make sure that cboPartNum has at least 3 columns specified in its
property sheet, since the column numbering is zero based for the
collection.

Charlotte Foust


-----Original Message-----
From: Joe Hecht [mailto:jmhecht at earthlink.net] 
Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2005 11:37 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Good Code Bad Code Question


See inline


Subject: RE: [AccessD] Good Code Bad Code Question

You lost me, Joe.  You say it works correctly but you get a compile
error?  If you get a compile error, it shouldn't work. 

^ Yes I agree

Have you tried decompile and recompile? 

^ I have read posts here but maybe I am thick.(Well I am heavy  : )) I
do not understand how to decompile and recompile


I have to say that in later versions of Access, I've had better luck
using the afterupdate of a combo to put a non-value column value into
another control.  Have you tried that?

^That is where the code is.

Charlotte Foust
Thanks

-----Original Message-----
From: Joe Hecht [mailto:jmhecht at earthlink.net] 
Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2005 11:01 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] Good Code Bad Code Question


The following line of code works correctly
 
Me.txtCost.Value = Me.cboPartNum.Column(2)
 
 
When I try to compile the code I get an error message that .cboPartNum

 
Method or Data member not found.  Any Idea what is up?
 
Option Explicit is set
 
Thanks
 
 
Joe Hecht
Los Angeles CA
 
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From donald.a.Mcgillivray at mail.sprint.com  Wed Jun 22 15:43:54 2005
From: donald.a.Mcgillivray at mail.sprint.com (Mcgillivray, Don [ITS])
Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2005 15:43:54 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Reference to the Printer object causing fatal error
Message-ID: <EC829B33DF5B5B48A956B7A2E894AA9A83E520@PLSWB06C.ad.sprint.com>

The message box says that Microsoft is sorry for the inconvenience, but
they're not offering to replace all the hair I'm pulling out over this .
. .

Seems simple enough, and it actually was working for a while.  Here's
the code:

Dim prt as Printer

For Each prt in Application.Printers
	Debug.Print prt.DeviceName
Next

Execute the code and it pauses a few seconds, then crashes Access with a
fatal error and the not-so-helpful "Send this to Microsoft . . ."
message box.

Since it was working for a while (and the same code works fine on my
home machine), I have to think that something in my Access or Office
installation got hosed somehow.  Any ideas where to look/what to try?  

Using AccessXP on Windows 2000.

Thanks!

Don



From stuart at lexacorp.com.pg  Wed Jun 22 16:07:04 2005
From: stuart at lexacorp.com.pg (Stuart McLachlan)
Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2005 07:07:04 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] Just Checking....
In-Reply-To: <007001c5773e$dcdc4cf0$6c7aa8c0@ColbyM6805>
References: <123701F54509D9119A4F00D0B747349016D74D@main2.marlow.com>
Message-ID: <42BA5F98.8107.3B5AFA1@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>

On 22 Jun 2005 at 11:27, John W. Colby wrote:

> ROTFL.  Yea, I am getting old.
> 
> I am about to launch a field naming convention discussion so look out.  ;-)
> 

I've just been asked to taske over some apps which were developed in-house 
by a certain organisation in PNG.

Most of them have a table called "MAIN TABLE" which is, believe it or not 
the main table used for storing data.

So far I have also come across fields named DATE and NAME  as well as 
several fields with 40-50 character fieldnames comprising multiple words 
separated by spaces.





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From Jim.Hale at FleetPride.com  Wed Jun 22 16:50:05 2005
From: Jim.Hale at FleetPride.com (Hale, Jim)
Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2005 16:50:05 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Classes not recognized in mda
Message-ID: <6A6AA9DF57E4F046BDA1E273BDDB6772337699@corp-es01.fleetpride.com>

Can forms be placed in libraries? If so how are they referenced?
Jim Hale

-----Original Message-----
From: John W. Colby [mailto:jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com]
Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2005 10:25 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Classes not recognized in mda


Hmm... This is the other way of doing it.  What Charlotte is saying is that
INSIDE of the library you can set a function that dims a new instance and
returns a pointer to the class.  The problem with doing this is that you
can't use intellisense to see the properties of the class etc. whereas using
the method I described, your classes become just another object and you can
use it just as you would any other object.

John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com 

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[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Charlotte Foust
Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2005 11:15 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Classes not recognized in mda


It's a little tricky using classes in a code library because you have to
give them a public interface before they can be used elsewhere.  I don't
have an example on this machine, so I'm working from memory here, but as I
recall, I dimmed a public object variable as a new instance of the class I
wanted to expose.  That allowed the app linked to the library to grab the
public instance of the class and use its methods and
properties.    

Charlotte Foust


-----Original Message-----
From: Hale, Jim [mailto:Jim.Hale at fleetpride.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2005 8:01 AM
To: 'Accessd (E-mail)
Subject: [AccessD] Classes not recognized in mda


I have moved some classes and modules out of the front end into a code
library. I set the same references in the code library as in the front end.
In the front end I set a reference to the code library. The FE recognizes
the functions in the library modules fine, no problems but doesn't recognize
the classes (i.e. I get an error in the FE when I try to instantiate the
moved classes). The code ran fine when the classes resided in the front end.
I am obviously doing something simple wrong. Any suggestions? TIA Jim Hale

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From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com  Wed Jun 22 16:49:15 2005
From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (John W. Colby)
Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2005 17:49:15 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Just Checking....
In-Reply-To: <42BA5F98.8107.3B5AFA1@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>
Message-ID: <009701c57774$3c061370$6c7aa8c0@ColbyM6805>

LOL, yea ain't life fun.

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[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Stuart McLachlan
Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2005 5:07 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Just Checking....


On 22 Jun 2005 at 11:27, John W. Colby wrote:

> ROTFL.  Yea, I am getting old.
> 
> I am about to launch a field naming convention discussion so look out.  
> ;-)
> 

I've just been asked to taske over some apps which were developed in-house 
by a certain organisation in PNG.

Most of them have a table called "MAIN TABLE" which is, believe it or not 
the main table used for storing data.

So far I have also come across fields named DATE and NAME  as well as 
several fields with 40-50 character fieldnames comprising multiple words 
separated by spaces.





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From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com  Wed Jun 22 16:56:41 2005
From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (John W. Colby)
Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2005 17:56:41 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Classes not recognized in mda
In-Reply-To: <6A6AA9DF57E4F046BDA1E273BDDB6772337699@corp-es01.fleetpride.com>
Message-ID: <009e01c57775$499d1f00$6c7aa8c0@ColbyM6805>

Forms can be placed in libraries.  Unbound forms (non data forms) are easy,
bound forms are trickier.  Referencing them requires calling a function that
opens the form.  The issue with bound forms is that the table name or query
for a form is assumed to be in the database container that the form resides
in.  The easiest way around that is to use a SQL statement that uses an "in
databasename" clause.  Typically you would have the form open not bound to a
recordsource, then have it set it's recordsource to the passed in sql
statement.  Not pretty but it can be made to work.

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Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2005 5:50 PM
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Subject: RE: [AccessD] Classes not recognized in mda


Can forms be placed in libraries? If so how are they referenced? Jim Hale

-----Original Message-----
From: John W. Colby [mailto:jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com]
Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2005 10:25 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Classes not recognized in mda


Hmm... This is the other way of doing it.  What Charlotte is saying is that
INSIDE of the library you can set a function that dims a new instance and
returns a pointer to the class.  The problem with doing this is that you
can't use intellisense to see the properties of the class etc. whereas using
the method I described, your classes become just another object and you can
use it just as you would any other object.

John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com 

Contribute your unused CPU cycles to a good cause:
http://folding.stanford.edu/

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Charlotte Foust
Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2005 11:15 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Classes not recognized in mda


It's a little tricky using classes in a code library because you have to
give them a public interface before they can be used elsewhere.  I don't
have an example on this machine, so I'm working from memory here, but as I
recall, I dimmed a public object variable as a new instance of the class I
wanted to expose.  That allowed the app linked to the library to grab the
public instance of the class and use its methods and
properties.    

Charlotte Foust


-----Original Message-----
From: Hale, Jim [mailto:Jim.Hale at fleetpride.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2005 8:01 AM
To: 'Accessd (E-mail)
Subject: [AccessD] Classes not recognized in mda


I have moved some classes and modules out of the front end into a code
library. I set the same references in the code library as in the front end.
In the front end I set a reference to the code library. The FE recognizes
the functions in the library modules fine, no problems but doesn't recognize
the classes (i.e. I get an error in the FE when I try to instantiate the
moved classes). The code ran fine when the classes resided in the front end.
I am obviously doing something simple wrong. Any suggestions? TIA Jim Hale

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From scapistrant at symphonyinfo.com  Wed Jun 22 17:03:39 2005
From: scapistrant at symphonyinfo.com (Steve Capistrant)
Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2005 17:03:39 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Scanning for corruption
Message-ID: <855499653F55AD4190B242717DF132BC082CDE@dewey.Symphony.local>

Has anyone tried building some routine that scans all tables in an
Access database for corruption?  I'd be interested in implementing this
as part of an overall preventative (sort of) maintenance or
troubleshooting process.

It seems possible to do, because certain routine actions -- like copying
a table -- will fail if the table has a corruption.  Run a routine that
looped through the tables collection, copy each to an external temporary
database, trap for errors at each step, and display the name of each
corrupted table.  Scanning at the record level might be trickier,
because you usually can't return the ID of a corrupted record.

Thoughts?

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From martyconnelly at shaw.ca  Wed Jun 22 17:08:15 2005
From: martyconnelly at shaw.ca (MartyConnelly)
Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2005 15:08:15 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Question about Animated Graphics
References: <200506221829.j5MIT9R17944@databaseadvisors.com>
Message-ID: <42B9E14F.8000303@shaw.ca>

That was just a proof of concept.
Just drop  Leban's animated gif  control on the form from the toolbox
after adding  Ocx via Tools--> ActiveX
I used the Ver 2.5 of the OCX and the gears were whirring beautifully
There are start and stop methods and you can change background colour.
http://www.lebans.com/animatedgifplayer.htm

Private Sub Form_Open(Cancel As Integer)
'Me.AnimatedGifCtl0.LoadGif True 'if true will look up gif filename via 
file dialog
Me.AnimatedGifCtl0.strGifFileName = "C:\Access 
files\Lebans\AnimatedGif\gears5.gif"
Me.AnimatedGifCtl0.LoadGif False
' If you want the  Gif to start
' automatically upon load then
' uncomment out the line below.
Me.AnimatedGifCtl0.StartTimer
DoEvents
Me.Refresh
End Sub

Arthur Fuller wrote:

>Well, that clearly works, but I think I'll give you a smack upside the
>temple anyway LOL. (I wonder if there is a more universally hated developer
>in the world than the author(s) of these various assistants.)
>
>So you have demonstrated that we can invoked the Assistant from Access.
>Upsizing the question, is this sort of approach possible with other
>animations? Case in point -- the gears inside a torn-open skin, that revolve
>in synch. Can I use your code to apply to such an animated JPG, and if so,
>how?
>
>TIA,
>Arthur
>
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>[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of MartyConnelly
>Sent: June 22, 2005 2:21 PM
>To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
>Subject: Re: [AccessD] Question about Animated Graphics
>
>Well animated graphics seem to be possible from vba
>Just run this snippet  in debug window
>Please don't hit me ;)
>
>With Assistant
>    .On = True
>    .Visible = True
>    .Move xLeft:=400, yTop:=300
>    .MoveWhenInTheWay = True
>    .TipOfDay = True
>    'need reference to MS Office 11.0 Library
>   ' .Animation = msoAnimationGreeting
>   .Animation = 2
>End With
>
>
>  
>

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From accessd at shaw.ca  Wed Jun 22 18:24:22 2005
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2005 16:24:22 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] OT: Sharepoint Security (SOLVED)
In-Reply-To: <08F823FD83787D4BA0B99CA580AD3C74016C3A66@TTNEXCHCL2.hshhp.com>
Message-ID: <0III00H1HECMB7@l-daemon>

Hi Jim:

Thanks for the information. Now I will have to run up a portal and give it a
try and see what happens.

Jim

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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim DeMarco
Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2005 10:38 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] OT: Sharepoint Security (SOLVED)

Here's a link to M$ for the answer:
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsserver2003/technologies/sharepoint/default.m
spx

In a nutshell it's a collaboration web site where teams can share documents
in multiple libraries, share contacts, task lists, calendars and more.  It's
easily customizable and a pretty cool tool IMHO.  You can set up your own
user groups and customize access at every function level.  If you run
Windows Server 2003 you have a copy of SP Services already.  The Portal
version is the big brother and must be purchased.

HTH,

Jim DeMarco

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Jim Lawrence
Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2005 12:40 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] OT: Sharepoint Security (SOLVED)


Hi All:

Given that this question will seem simple and slightly ignorant... what is a
SharePoint Portal used for and what does it improve or replace.

Jim

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim DeMarco
Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2005 9:33 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] OT: Sharepoint Security (SOLVED)

The culprit seemed to be that the user(s) in question were members of a
Desktop Administrators group that was set up for us.  Removing that group
from the Sharepoint server machine seems to have corrected the issue
(further testing pending).

Thanks to all,

Jim DeMarco

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Jim DeMarco
Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2005 10:30 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] OT: Sharepoint Security


Well I just set up a non-IT staff member with Read access and that's all he
could do (read).  When I removed him from the site he could not access it
any longer.  So it looks like it may be using Windows Security to
authenticate users.  Unfortunately I need to limit even our IT staff in
various sections of the site so I've got to get a work around together.

I'll keep you posted.

Thanks,

Jim DeMarco

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Jim Hewson
Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2005 10:08 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] OT: Sharepoint Security


Jim,
I'm a novice, but will become the SharePoint "Expert" when I change
jobs, in my company, next month.  I'm interested in the outcome of your
question.
A couple of random thoughts...
There are two levels of security for SharePoint.  They are Central
Administration and Site Administration rights.  Central take precedence
over site rights.  If a person is a member of the Central Administration
group which manages the settings for the Web Server and virtual servers,
they effectively have Administrative rights to the entire portal.
In Site Administration, IIRC, there is a toggle somewhere to designate a
person to have the same rights as the parent area or site.
Let me know if you have found the solution.
Regards,
Jim H.

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim DeMarco
Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2005 8:04 AM
To: AccessD (E-mail)
Subject: [AccessD] OT: Sharepoint Security

List,

I've done some Googling but I can't seem to find the answer to this odd
problem.  I set up a Sharepoint site as a test bed (Sharepoint Services
not Server) and gave a few users access.  No matter what rights I give
the users they have full admin rights to the sight.  I set up custom
security groups and the site is completely ignoring them.  To further
add to the mystery I removed on user (she is not a member of any
security group therefore should not have access to the site) and she can
still get in with full admin rights.  Is it possible that Sharepoint is
deferring to Windows rights?  These are all IT staff here and have more
liberal rights to our network than the average user.

Does anyone have a clue?  A push in the right direction would be
appreciated.

TIA

Jim DeMarco
Director of Application Development
Hudson Health Plan



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From accessd at shaw.ca  Wed Jun 22 18:33:05 2005
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2005 16:33:05 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] OT: Sharepoint Security (SOLVED)
In-Reply-To: <42B9B617.8080403@shaw.ca>
Message-ID: <0III0010CER5GE@l-daemon>

Hi Marty:

There are some awesome concepts that can be used. I will have to get a demo
up and running... I think I have a version hidden down in a pile of M$
CDs... Now to find the room on one of the servers.

Jim

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of MartyConnelly
Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2005 12:04 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] OT: Sharepoint Security (SOLVED)

I have found you can store ,update and read access tables on a 
sharepoint server
unfortunately my time ran out on the MS test site a few months back.
Wouldn't mind finding another free test one
In Access 2003 you can use soap via web class, direct xmlhttp or 
transferdatabase
to transfer tables or even documents xls or .doc


Sub WWSupload()
On Error GoTo errout

DoCmd.TransferDatabase transfertype:=acExport, databasetype:="WSS", _
                       
databasename:="http://mconnelly.sharepointsite.com", _
                       objecttype:=acTable, Source:="Household Inventory", _
                       Destination:="Household Inventory A", 
structureonly:=False
errout:
Debug.Print Err.Number & "-" & Err.Description
'http://mconnelly.sharepointsite.com/_vti_bin/Lists.asmx
End Sub

Sub WWSuploadPics()
On Error GoTo errout

DoCmd.TransferDatabase transfertype:=acExport, databasetype:="WSS", _
                       
databasename:="http://mconnelly.sharepointsite.com", _
                       objecttype:=acTable, Source:="Employees", _
                       Destination:="Employees", structureonly:=False
errout:
Debug.Print Err.Number & "-" & Err.Description

End Sub


 Sub Click()
On Error GoTo Err_Command8_Click
' To see methods of call
'http://www.xmethods.com/detail.html?id=8
'http://www.xmltoday.com/examples/soap/translate.psp
Dim URL As String
Dim http As New MSXML2.XMLHTTP
Dim objResult As New MSXML2.DOMDocument
Dim objStyle As New MSXML2.DOMDocument
Dim strEnvelopeBegin As String
Dim strEnvelopeEnd As String
Dim xmlReq As String
Dim s As String
Dim strReturned As String
Dim strQuery As String

  s = "<?xml version=""1.0""?>" & vbCrLf
 
    URL = "http://mconnelly.sharepointsite.com/_vti_bin/Lists.asmx"
   
strEnvelopeBegin = "<soap:Envelope " & vbCrLf & _
" xmlns:xsi=""http://www.w3.org/2001/XMLSchema-instance""" & vbCrLf & _
" xmlns:xsd=""http://www.w3.org/2001/XMLSchema""" & vbCrLf & _
" xmlns:soap=""http://schemas.xmlsoap.org/soap/envelope/""> " & vbCrLf & _
" <soap:Body> <GetListCollection 
xmlns=""http://schemas.microsoft.com/sharepoint/soap/"" />"
strEnvelopeEnd = vbCrLf & " </soap:Body> </soap:Envelope>"

    xmlReq = s & strEnvelopeBegin & strEnvelopeEnd
       Debug.Print xmlReq
     '  Me!Text0 = xmlReq
     '  Me!Text2 = URL
   
    http.Open "POST", URL, False
    'http.setRequestHeader "Accept", "text/xml"
    http.setRequestHeader "Content-Type", "text/xml"
   ' http.setRequestHeader "Cache-Control", "no-cache"
    http.setRequestHeader "SOAPAction", 
"http://schemas.microsoft.com/sharepoint/soap/GetListCollection"
   ' http.setRequestHeader "SOAPMethodName", "GetListCollection"

    http.send xmlReq

    Debug.Print http.responseText; Len(http.responseText)
    Debug.Print http.Status; http.statusText
    WriteFile "C:\Access files\sharepoint\" & "test" & _
       Format(Now, "yyyymmddhhmmss") & ".xml", http.responseText

     Debug.Print http.responseBody; Len(http.responseBody)
    ' Debug.Print http.responseXML
    'objResult = new ActiveXObject ("Microsoft.XMLDOM")
    objResult.async = False
    objResult.Load http.responseText
    'strQuery = 
"SOAP:Envelope/SOAP:Body/<namesp13:getTranslationResponse/input"
     strQuery = "SOAP:Envelope/SOAP:Body/"
    strReturned = objResult.selectSingleNode(strQuery).Text
    Debug.Print "*" & strReturned & "*"
  Set http = Nothing
    ''objStyle = new ActiveXObject ("Microsoft.XMLDOM")
    'objStyle.async = False
    'objStyle.Load ("http://212.179.15.36/" + style)
    'Document.all.Message.innerHTML = objResult.transformNode(objStyle)
    Debug.Print "got result"
    'Debug.Print objResult.transformNode(objStyle)
    'mLargeStr = objResult.transformNode(objStyle)

Exit_Command8_Click:
    Exit Sub

Err_Command8_Click:
    MsgBox Err.Description
    Resume Exit_Command8_Click
   
End Sub

' WriteFile "C:\Access files\xmltests\strout" & Format(Now, 
"yyyymmddhhmmss") & ".xml", strOut


Public Sub WriteFile(ByVal sFileName As String, ByVal sContents As String)
' Dump XML  String to File for debugging
    Dim fhFile As Integer
    fhFile = FreeFile
   ' Debug.Print "Length of string=" & Len(sContents)
    Open sFileName For Output As #fhFile
    Print #fhFile, sContents;
    Close #fhFile
    Debug.Print "Out File" & sFileName
End Sub

Jim Lawrence wrote:

>Hi All:
>
>Given that this question will seem simple and slightly ignorant... what is
a
>SharePoint Portal used for and what does it improve or replace.
>
>Jim
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim DeMarco
>Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2005 9:33 AM
>To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
>Subject: RE: [AccessD] OT: Sharepoint Security (SOLVED)
>
>The culprit seemed to be that the user(s) in question were members of a
>Desktop Administrators group that was set up for us.  Removing that group
>from the Sharepoint server machine seems to have corrected the issue
>(further testing pending).
>
>Thanks to all,
>
>Jim DeMarco
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Jim DeMarco
>Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2005 10:30 AM
>To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
>Subject: RE: [AccessD] OT: Sharepoint Security
>
>
>Well I just set up a non-IT staff member with Read access and that's all he
>could do (read).  When I removed him from the site he could not access it
>any longer.  So it looks like it may be using Windows Security to
>authenticate users.  Unfortunately I need to limit even our IT staff in
>various sections of the site so I've got to get a work around together.
>
>I'll keep you posted.
>
>Thanks,
>
>Jim DeMarco
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Jim Hewson
>Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2005 10:08 AM
>To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
>Subject: RE: [AccessD] OT: Sharepoint Security
>
>
>Jim,
>I'm a novice, but will become the SharePoint "Expert" when I change
>jobs, in my company, next month.  I'm interested in the outcome of your
>question.
>A couple of random thoughts...
>There are two levels of security for SharePoint.  They are Central
>Administration and Site Administration rights.  Central take precedence
>over site rights.  If a person is a member of the Central Administration
>group which manages the settings for the Web Server and virtual servers,
>they effectively have Administrative rights to the entire portal.
>In Site Administration, IIRC, there is a toggle somewhere to designate a
>person to have the same rights as the parent area or site.
>Let me know if you have found the solution.
>Regards,
>Jim H.
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim DeMarco
>Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2005 8:04 AM
>To: AccessD (E-mail)
>Subject: [AccessD] OT: Sharepoint Security
>
>List,
>
>I've done some Googling but I can't seem to find the answer to this odd
>problem.  I set up a Sharepoint site as a test bed (Sharepoint Services
>not Server) and gave a few users access.  No matter what rights I give
>the users they have full admin rights to the sight.  I set up custom
>security groups and the site is completely ignoring them.  To further
>add to the mystery I removed on user (she is not a member of any
>security group therefore should not have access to the site) and she can
>still get in with full admin rights.  Is it possible that Sharepoint is
>deferring to Windows rights?  These are all IT staff here and have more
>liberal rights to our network than the average user.
>
>Does anyone have a clue?  A push in the right direction would be
>appreciated.
>
>TIA
>
>Jim DeMarco
>Director of Application Development
>Hudson Health Plan
>
>
>
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>distribution or use of the contents of this message is strictly
>prohibited.  If you have received this message in error or are not the
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From accessd at shaw.ca  Wed Jun 22 18:34:35 2005
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2005 16:34:35 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] OT: Sharepoint Security (SOLVED)
In-Reply-To: <011401c57754$64dd7380$0100a8c0@Martin>
Message-ID: <0III0010JETNHY@l-daemon>

Hi Martin:

With all this information I should be good to go... I now need to run up
SharePoint.

Thanks you very much.
Jim 

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Martin Reid
Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2005 11:01 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] OT: Sharepoint Security (SOLVED)

Hi Jim

I did a paper for Microsoft on this last year.

http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/default.asp?url=/library/en-us/odc_fp2003_
ta/html/odc_FP_whatsnew2003.asp

http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/default.asp?url=/library/en-us/odc_fp2003_
ta/html/odc_FP_whatsnew2003.asp


May be interesting


Martin




----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Jim DeMarco" <Jdemarco at hudsonhealthplan.org>
To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving" 
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2005 6:55 PM
Subject: RE: [AccessD] OT: Sharepoint Security (SOLVED)


> True (SPS is the portal version for the uninitiated).  And I didn't even 
> mention the cool hooks into Office 2003 where you can connect Access to 
> DBs posted on a site or link Excel sheets for real time data updates.
>
> JD
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Martin Reid
> Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2005 1:45 PM
> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] OT: Sharepoint Security (SOLVED)
>
>
> SPS provides the ability to search and index many WSS sites. It sites on 
> top
> of WSS and allows you to pull them all together. Its a real cool tool for 
> example full file store search, personal sites, auidences etc etc
>
> I have sent you a presentation on the very topic I am giving on Friday LOL
>
>
> Martin
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Jim Lawrence" <accessd at shaw.ca>
> To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'"
> <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2005 5:40 PM
> Subject: RE: [AccessD] OT: Sharepoint Security (SOLVED)
>
>
>> Hi All:
>>
>> Given that this question will seem simple and slightly ignorant... what 
>> is
>> a
>> SharePoint Portal used for and what does it improve or replace.
>>
>> Jim
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim DeMarco
>> Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2005 9:33 AM
>> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
>> Subject: RE: [AccessD] OT: Sharepoint Security (SOLVED)
>>
>> The culprit seemed to be that the user(s) in question were members of a
>> Desktop Administrators group that was set up for us.  Removing that group
>> from the Sharepoint server machine seems to have corrected the issue
>> (further testing pending).
>>
>> Thanks to all,
>>
>> Jim DeMarco
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Jim DeMarco
>> Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2005 10:30 AM
>> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
>> Subject: RE: [AccessD] OT: Sharepoint Security
>>
>>
>> Well I just set up a non-IT staff member with Read access and that's all 
>>  > he
>> could do (read).  When I removed him from the site he could not access it
>> any longer.  So it looks like it may be using Windows Security to
>> authenticate users.  Unfortunately I need to limit even our IT staff in
>> various sections of the site so I've got to get a work around together.
>>
>> I'll keep you posted.
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Jim DeMarco
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Jim Hewson
>> Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2005 10:08 AM
>> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
>> Subject: RE: [AccessD] OT: Sharepoint Security
>>
>>
>> Jim,
>> I'm a novice, but will become the SharePoint "Expert" when I change
>> jobs, in my company, next month.  I'm interested in the outcome of your
>> question.
>> A couple of random thoughts...
>> There are two levels of security for SharePoint.  They are Central
>> Administration and Site Administration rights.  Central take precedence
>> over site rights.  If a person is a member of the Central Administration
>> group which manages the settings for the Web Server and virtual servers,
>> they effectively have Administrative rights to the entire portal.
>> In Site Administration, IIRC, there is a toggle somewhere to designate a
>> person to have the same rights as the parent area or site.
>> Let me know if you have found the solution.
>> Regards,
>> Jim H.
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim DeMarco
>> Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2005 8:04 AM
>> To: AccessD (E-mail)
>> Subject: [AccessD] OT: Sharepoint Security
>>
>> List,
>>
>> I've done some Googling but I can't seem to find the answer to this odd
>> problem.  I set up a Sharepoint site as a test bed (Sharepoint Services
>> not Server) and gave a few users access.  No matter what rights I give
>> the users they have full admin rights to the sight.  I set up custom
>> security groups and the site is completely ignoring them.  To further
>> add to the mystery I removed on user (she is not a member of any
>> security group therefore should not have access to the site) and she can
>> still get in with full admin rights.  Is it possible that Sharepoint is
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From accessd at shaw.ca  Wed Jun 22 18:42:34 2005
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2005 16:42:34 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] OT: Sharepoint Security (SOLVED)
In-Reply-To: <011401c57754$64dd7380$0100a8c0@Martin>
Message-ID: <0III00419F6YZH@l-daemon>

Hi All:

If there is anyone who I did not thank for information of the SharePoint
Portal subject consider them-selves thanked.

Jim



From jmhecht at earthlink.net  Wed Jun 22 19:02:13 2005
From: jmhecht at earthlink.net (Joe Hecht)
Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2005 17:02:13 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Good Code Bad Code Question
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Kevin wins.

Need more bangs and less dots.

Joe Hecht
Los Angeles CA

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[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Kevin Bachmeier
Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2005 11:25 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Good Code Bad Code Question

Try using the '!' instead of the '.' for the control reference:  
 Me!txtCost.Value = Me!cboPartNum.Column(2)
Versus:
 Me.txtCost.Value = Me.cboPartNum.Column(2)

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Subject: [AccessD] Good Code Bad Code Question

The following line of code works correctly
 
Me.txtCost.Value = Me.cboPartNum.Column(2)
 
 
When I try to compile the code I get an error message that .cboPartNum

 
Method or Data member not found.  Any Idea what is up?
 
Option Explicit is set
 
Thanks
 
 
Joe Hecht
Los Angeles CA
 
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From jmhecht at earthlink.net  Wed Jun 22 19:11:26 2005
From: jmhecht at earthlink.net (Joe Hecht)
Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2005 17:11:26 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Good Code Bad Code Question
In-Reply-To: <E61FC1D4B1918244905B113C680BEA8689A46D@infoserver01.infostat.local>
Message-ID: <000701c57788$19176b70$6401a8c0@laptop1>

C:\Program Files\Microsoft Office\Office10\MSACCESS.EXE
C:\Data\K fernan\62205\PosiChargeFS Programs.mdb /decompile  

The installation path for access is the MS default.

When I run the above I get error message
		Windows cannot find C:\Program ( Bla Bla Bla)
Any thoughts


Joe Hecht
Los Angeles CA

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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Charlotte Foust
Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2005 12:48 PM
To: access at joe2.endjunk.com; Access Developers discussion and problem
solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Good Code Bad Code Question

To decompile, you start Access with a command line /decompile argument.
Any command line argument requires the full path to the executable be in
the shortcut or the command line arg is ignoredCharlotte Foust


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Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2005 11:37 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Good Code Bad Code Question


See inline


Subject: RE: [AccessD] Good Code Bad Code Question

You lost me, Joe.  You say it works correctly but you get a compile
error?  If you get a compile error, it shouldn't work. 

^ Yes I agree

Have you tried decompile and recompile? 

^ I have read posts here but maybe I am thick.(Well I am heavy  : )) I
do not understand how to decompile and recompile


I have to say that in later versions of Access, I've had better luck
using the afterupdate of a combo to put a non-value column value into
another control.  Have you tried that?

^That is where the code is.

Charlotte Foust
Thanks

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Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2005 11:01 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] Good Code Bad Code Question


The following line of code works correctly
 
Me.txtCost.Value = Me.cboPartNum.Column(2)
 
 
When I try to compile the code I get an error message that .cboPartNum

 
Method or Data member not found.  Any Idea what is up?
 
Option Explicit is set
 
Thanks
 
 
Joe Hecht
Los Angeles CA
 
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From cfoust at infostatsystems.com  Wed Jun 22 19:25:02 2005
From: cfoust at infostatsystems.com (Charlotte Foust)
Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2005 17:25:02 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Good Code Bad Code Question
Message-ID: <E61FC1D4B1918244905B113C680BEA86873ABB@infoserver01.infostat.local>

The dot works fine until you try and access the columns collection of
the combobox object.  The syntax just gets Access 2000 and later
confused, since it is seeing the combobox as a property of the form
rather than a member of a collection.  This is one of those increasingly
rare cases where you really do need the bang.  Of course, when you get
to .Net, there *is* no bang .... <VBG>

Charlotte Foust


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From: Joe Hecht [mailto:jmhecht at earthlink.net] 
Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2005 5:02 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Good Code Bad Code Question


Kevin wins.

Need more bangs and less dots.

Joe Hecht
Los Angeles CA

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Kevin
Bachmeier
Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2005 11:25 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Good Code Bad Code Question

Try using the '!' instead of the '.' for the control reference:  
 Me!txtCost.Value = Me!cboPartNum.Column(2)
Versus:
 Me.txtCost.Value = Me.cboPartNum.Column(2)

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Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2005 1:01 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] Good Code Bad Code Question

The following line of code works correctly
 
Me.txtCost.Value = Me.cboPartNum.Column(2)
 
 
When I try to compile the code I get an error message that .cboPartNum

 
Method or Data member not found.  Any Idea what is up?
 
Option Explicit is set
 
Thanks
 
 
Joe Hecht
Los Angeles CA
 
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From cfoust at infostatsystems.com  Wed Jun 22 19:26:13 2005
From: cfoust at infostatsystems.com (Charlotte Foust)
Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2005 17:26:13 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Good Code Bad Code Question
Message-ID: <E61FC1D4B1918244905B113C680BEA86873ABC@infoserver01.infostat.local>

You need quotes around any path with spaces in it, so both the
executable path and the mdb path need to be enclosed in a pair of double
quotes each.

Charlotte Foust


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Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2005 5:11 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Good Code Bad Code Question


C:\Program Files\Microsoft Office\Office10\MSACCESS.EXE C:\Data\K
fernan\62205\PosiChargeFS Programs.mdb /decompile  

The installation path for access is the MS default.

When I run the above I get error message
		Windows cannot find C:\Program ( Bla Bla Bla)
Any thoughts


Joe Hecht
Los Angeles CA

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Charlotte
Foust
Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2005 12:48 PM
To: access at joe2.endjunk.com; Access Developers discussion and problem
solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Good Code Bad Code Question

To decompile, you start Access with a command line /decompile argument.
Any command line argument requires the full path to the executable be in
the shortcut or the command line arg is ignoredCharlotte Foust


-----Original Message-----
From: Joe Hecht [mailto:jmhecht at earthlink.net] 
Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2005 11:37 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Good Code Bad Code Question


See inline


Subject: RE: [AccessD] Good Code Bad Code Question

You lost me, Joe.  You say it works correctly but you get a compile
error?  If you get a compile error, it shouldn't work. 

^ Yes I agree

Have you tried decompile and recompile? 

^ I have read posts here but maybe I am thick.(Well I am heavy  : )) I
do not understand how to decompile and recompile


I have to say that in later versions of Access, I've had better luck
using the afterupdate of a combo to put a non-value column value into
another control.  Have you tried that?

^That is where the code is.

Charlotte Foust
Thanks

-----Original Message-----
From: Joe Hecht [mailto:jmhecht at earthlink.net] 
Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2005 11:01 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] Good Code Bad Code Question


The following line of code works correctly
 
Me.txtCost.Value = Me.cboPartNum.Column(2)
 
 
When I try to compile the code I get an error message that .cboPartNum

 
Method or Data member not found.  Any Idea what is up?
 
Option Explicit is set
 
Thanks
 
 
Joe Hecht
Los Angeles CA
 
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From Bruce.Bruen at railcorp.nsw.gov.au  Wed Jun 22 19:37:11 2005
From: Bruce.Bruen at railcorp.nsw.gov.au (Bruen, Bruce)
Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2005 10:37:11 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] Good Code Bad Code Question
Message-ID: <F2BE8EAB3EA585418337B71BCE6F3BF304EBC9@msmet100.rail.nsw.gov.au>

"C:\Program Files\Microsoft Office\Office10\MSACCESS.EXE" "C:\Data\K
fernan\62205\PosiChargeFS Programs.mdb" /decompile   

I just love Moronsoft's implemntation of long file names.

bruce

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Sent: Thursday, 23 June 2005 10:11 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Good Code Bad Code Question

C:\Program Files\Microsoft Office\Office10\MSACCESS.EXE C:\Data\K
fernan\62205\PosiChargeFS Programs.mdb /decompile  

The installation path for access is the MS default.

When I run the above I get error message
		Windows cannot find C:\Program ( Bla Bla Bla) Any
thoughts


Joe Hecht
Los Angeles CA

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Charlotte
Foust
Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2005 12:48 PM
To: access at joe2.endjunk.com; Access Developers discussion and problem
solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Good Code Bad Code Question

To decompile, you start Access with a command line /decompile argument.
Any command line argument requires the full path to the executable be in
the shortcut or the command line arg is ignoredCharlotte Foust


-----Original Message-----
From: Joe Hecht [mailto:jmhecht at earthlink.net]
Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2005 11:37 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Good Code Bad Code Question


See inline


Subject: RE: [AccessD] Good Code Bad Code Question

You lost me, Joe.  You say it works correctly but you get a compile
error?  If you get a compile error, it shouldn't work. 

^ Yes I agree

Have you tried decompile and recompile? 

^ I have read posts here but maybe I am thick.(Well I am heavy  : )) I
do not understand how to decompile and recompile


I have to say that in later versions of Access, I've had better luck
using the afterupdate of a combo to put a non-value column value into
another control.  Have you tried that?

^That is where the code is.

Charlotte Foust
Thanks

-----Original Message-----
From: Joe Hecht [mailto:jmhecht at earthlink.net] 
Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2005 11:01 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] Good Code Bad Code Question


The following line of code works correctly
 
Me.txtCost.Value = Me.cboPartNum.Column(2)
 
 
When I try to compile the code I get an error message that .cboPartNum

 
Method or Data member not found.  Any Idea what is up?
 
Option Explicit is set
 
Thanks
 
 
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Los Angeles CA
 
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From dejpolsys at hotmail.com  Wed Jun 22 20:55:45 2005
From: dejpolsys at hotmail.com (William Hindman)
Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2005 21:55:45 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Open File Dialog Box Call Fails
References: <00b401c57736$57c70fd0$6c01a8c0@HAL9004>
Message-ID: <BAY103-DAV16EBB48BF01AEA576D80F1AEEA0@phx.gbl>

..the comdlg32.dll is probably the most screwed with dll by 3rd party apps 
..see if his admin has disabled Windows File Protection ...or better yet, 
have him run a System File Check on each affected system ...if that fails to 
correct the problem, try a System Restore to a date before the problem first 
appeared.

William

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From: "Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software" <bchacc at san.rr.com>
To: <AccessD at databaseadvisors.com>; "dba-tech" 
<dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>
Cc: "Ben Saltzer" <bsaltzer at consultsse.com>
Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2005 10:26 AM
Subject: [AccessD] Open File Dialog Box Call Fails


Dear List:

I have a client who's selling an app I wrote where I use the code from the 
ADH to call the file open dialog box:

Declare Function adh_apiGetOpenFileName Lib "comdlg32.dll" _
 Alias "GetOpenFileNameA" (ofn As tagOPENFILENAME) As Boolean

I haven't worked on the app for several months and it's been very stable 
until a couple of weeks ago when this call began to fail with no error 
message.  Just didn't open the dialog box.  Then it failed on another 
computer.  Then on another one.  Now no computer in his place runs this api.

I went over to his place and stepped through the code and sure enough it 
goes to the api call and then goes right through the api call without 
opening the dialog box.

If we try to drop the common dialog control onto a form in design view from 
the additional tools list in the toolbox we get a message that says the OLE 
server isn't registered.

So I need to figure out

1) how to get the OLE server registered (unregistered first I suppose) and 
see if that is somehow hosing the file open dialog box
2) figure out if there's a problem with comdlg32.dll
3) see if I can determine why this app suddenly went south so that it 
doesn't happen at one of his customer sites.

He's using Access 2000 SP-3 but also fails in AXP.  The app fails on both 
W2K and WXP.  He's pretty careful about virus scanning.  I don't think it is 
a virus even though it behaves like one.  Is it possible that it got hosed 
by an automatic windows update?

Any clue as to what's going on here would be greatly appreciated.

MTIA,

Rocky Smolin
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From jmhecht at earthlink.net  Wed Jun 22 23:55:24 2005
From: jmhecht at earthlink.net (Joe Hecht)
Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2005 21:55:24 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Just Checking....
In-Reply-To: <E61FC1D4B1918244905B113C680BEA86873AB6@infoserver01.infostat.local>
Message-ID: <003e01c577af$c5146f00$6401a8c0@laptop1>

Please share

Joe Hecht
Los Angeles CA

Blame the muscle relaxants
for back spasms, please. <g>







From ssharkins at bellsouth.net  Thu Jun 23 07:49:54 2005
From: ssharkins at bellsouth.net (Susan Harkins)
Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2005 08:49:54 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Expression not working in text box
Message-ID: <20050623124955.QFUR4468.ibm61aec.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>

=Forms!mainform!subform.Form.RecordsetClone.RecordCount
 
I've used the above expression before, in a main form, to return a count of
the records in a subform. It isn't working in 2003. It works in the
Immediate window, so I have no clue what the problem is. :( 
 
I know I can just use Count(*) in the subform and reference that control --
and I will if I have to in the end -- but anyone know what they above won't
work in 2003? 
 
Susan H. 


From ssharkins at bellsouth.net  Thu Jun 23 08:59:59 2005
From: ssharkins at bellsouth.net (Susan Harkins)
Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2005 09:59:59 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Normalizing issue
Message-ID: <20050623135959.FMWJ25470.ibm57aec.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>

How do you guys deal with people that use three or more names
professionally? I do -- Susan Sales Harkins. 
 
Do you store the second name with the first or use three fields? The middle
name really isn't a "middle" name. It's actually part of the last name, but
the last name is the real last name -- so if you stored it with the last
name, you'd have to depend on users to enter it correctly, as in Harkins,
Sales --  which is a mistake before you even get started... And how do you
write in the flexibility that handles 2 or 3 names? 
 
Susan H. 


From jimdettman at earthlink.net  Thu Jun 23 09:32:00 2005
From: jimdettman at earthlink.net (Jim Dettman)
Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2005 10:32:00 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Normalizing issue
In-Reply-To: <20050623135959.FMWJ25470.ibm57aec.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>
Message-ID: <NDEALJOEGMMPCDKIFGNFOEBMDKAA.jimdettman@earthlink.net>

Susan,

  I make it part of the last name field.

Jim.

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[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Susan Harkins
Sent: Thursday, June 23, 2005 10:00 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] Normalizing issue


How do you guys deal with people that use three or more names
professionally? I do -- Susan Sales Harkins. 
 
Do you store the second name with the first or use three fields? The middle
name really isn't a "middle" name. It's actually part of the last name, but
the last name is the real last name -- so if you stored it with the last
name, you'd have to depend on users to enter it correctly, as in Harkins,
Sales --  which is a mistake before you even get started... And how do you
write in the flexibility that handles 2 or 3 names? 
 
Susan H. 
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From prodevmg at yahoo.com  Thu Jun 23 09:39:10 2005
From: prodevmg at yahoo.com (Lonnie Johnson)
Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2005 07:39:10 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [AccessD] Normalizing issue
In-Reply-To: <NDEALJOEGMMPCDKIFGNFOEBMDKAA.jimdettman@earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <20050623143910.93035.qmail@web33101.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Same here. 
 
The number of records that have a second last name vs those that don't dosen't warrant our efforts to program around it. We put the burden of keying it in properly on the business/clerical departments.

Jim Dettman <jimdettman at earthlink.net> wrote:
Susan,

I make it part of the last name field.

Jim.

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Susan Harkins
Sent: Thursday, June 23, 2005 10:00 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] Normalizing issue


How do you guys deal with people that use three or more names
professionally? I do -- Susan Sales Harkins. 

Do you store the second name with the first or use three fields? The middle
name really isn't a "middle" name. It's actually part of the last name, but
the last name is the real last name -- so if you stored it with the last
name, you'd have to depend on users to enter it correctly, as in Harkins,
Sales -- which is a mistake before you even get started... And how do you
write in the flexibility that handles 2 or 3 names? 

Susan H. 
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From ssharkins at bellsouth.net  Thu Jun 23 09:46:12 2005
From: ssharkins at bellsouth.net (Susan Harkins)
Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2005 10:46:12 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Normalizing issue
In-Reply-To: <20050623143910.93035.qmail@web33101.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <20050623144612.YQSE5308.ibm66aec.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>

So you both depend on the data entry person to enter Harkins Sales instead
of Sales Harkins? 

That's interesting. ;) 

Susan H. 
 
The number of records that have a second last name vs those that don't
dosen't warrant our efforts to program around it. We put the burden of
keying it in properly on the business/clerical departments.




From kwilliam at ashlandnet.com  Thu Jun 23 09:46:43 2005
From: kwilliam at ashlandnet.com (Keith Williamson)
Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2005 10:46:43 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] DateName Function
In-Reply-To: <20050623135959.FMWJ25470.ibm57aec.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>
Message-ID: <000f01c57802$5fee5610$64aba8c0@ashlandnet.com>

Anyone know how to deal with this?

I am collating data for daily sales.  The data I am given is total sales per
day, for the past three years.  Ideally I want to turn this into a graphic
comparing monthly sales for each year (ie.  3-dimensional comparison of each
month's sales, compared to prior history.)

The problem I am having is that I run a sum query to give me monthly sales,
for each year, using the month function (ie.  Month([date]) &
year([date])...and summarizing on that.)

What I wind up with is:
Expr1:Month([date]) field = 1, 2, 3, 4,....12
Expr2:Year([date]) field = 2003, 2004, 2005
SumofSales field = currency value of sales for that month/year

One row of data that might be returned:

1, 2003, 25000


Now ...I can make a graph of this...but it doesn't look good 1-2003 vs.
1-2004 vs. 1-2005

Obviously...I would rather it say January 2003 vs. January 2004 vs. January
2005

BUT>>>>  When I try to use the DateName Function on Month([date])
field....it doesn't work:

DateName([expr1])

When I run the query, I get a request for value dialogue box for Expr1.

Do I need to format the function a certain way to get it to calculate
DateName on a function(month([date])??

Thanks for any help!!!

Regards,

Keith E. Williamson
Ashland Equipment, Inc
phone # (410) 273-1856
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From reuben at gfconsultants.com  Thu Jun 23 09:59:37 2005
From: reuben at gfconsultants.com (Reuben Cummings)
Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2005 09:59:37 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Normalizing issue
In-Reply-To: <20050623144612.YQSE5308.ibm66aec.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>
Message-ID: <JKEJKMLAODCACEAIJLPAIECFDDAA.reuben@gfconsultants.com>

I use middle name.  My feeling is that no one cares if it's actually a last
name or middle name.  Either way it's in the right place all the time if you
use a middle name field.

The question really is how is that person listed on legal documents.  If,
for example, you are listed on your mortgage or social security (or
whatever) as Last name = Sales Harkins, First name = Susan then that's the
last name, but if you use it "unofficially" then I would make it a middle
name.

Reuben Cummings
GFC, LLC
phone: 812.523.1017
email: reuben at gfconsultants.com


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Susan Harkins
Sent: Thursday, June 23, 2005 9:46 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Normalizing issue


So you both depend on the data entry person to enter Harkins Sales instead
of Sales Harkins?

That's interesting. ;)

Susan H.

The number of records that have a second last name vs those that don't
dosen't warrant our efforts to program around it. We put the burden of
keying it in properly on the business/clerical departments.


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From prodevmg at yahoo.com  Thu Jun 23 09:58:05 2005
From: prodevmg at yahoo.com (Lonnie Johnson)
Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2005 07:58:05 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [AccessD] Normalizing issue
In-Reply-To: <20050623144612.YQSE5308.ibm66aec.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>
Message-ID: <20050623145805.90053.qmail@web33109.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Yes, actually our MIS department and our data entery department work together to enforce standards for data entry such as abreviations and use of special characters. There is also a step of quality control after all data is entered each day to ensure acurracy.

Susan Harkins <ssharkins at bellsouth.net> wrote:So you both depend on the data entry person to enter Harkins Sales instead
of Sales Harkins? 

That's interesting. ;) 

Susan H. 

The number of records that have a second last name vs those that don't
dosen't warrant our efforts to program around it. We put the burden of
keying it in properly on the business/clerical departments.


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From john at winhaven.net  Thu Jun 23 10:04:45 2005
From: john at winhaven.net (John Bartow)
Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2005 10:04:45 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Normalizing issue
In-Reply-To: <20050623143910.93035.qmail@web33101.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <200506231504.j5NF4jx8118710@pimout3-ext.prodigy.net>

Ditto - I suppose it varies by region/country but we've very little need for
it in this area.

John B. 

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Lonnie Johnson
Sent: Thursday, June 23, 2005 9:39 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Normalizing issue

Same here. 
 
The number of records that have a second last name vs those that don't
dosen't warrant our efforts to program around it. We put the burden of
keying it in properly on the business/clerical departments.

Jim Dettman <jimdettman at earthlink.net> wrote:
Susan,

I make it part of the last name field.

Jim.

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Susan Harkins
Sent: Thursday, June 23, 2005 10:00 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] Normalizing issue


How do you guys deal with people that use three or more names
professionally? I do -- Susan Sales Harkins. 

Do you store the second name with the first or use three fields? The middle
name really isn't a "middle" name. It's actually part of the last name, but
the last name is the real last name -- so if you stored it with the last
name, you'd have to depend on users to enter it correctly, as in Harkins,
Sales -- which is a mistake before you even get started... And how do you
write in the flexibility that handles 2 or 3 names? 

Susan H. 
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From ssharkins at bellsouth.net  Thu Jun 23 10:24:38 2005
From: ssharkins at bellsouth.net (Susan Harkins)
Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2005 11:24:38 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Normalizing issue
In-Reply-To: <20050623145805.90053.qmail@web33109.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <20050623152444.MELP25209.ibm63aec.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>

I wrote a two-part article about training a few years ago -- I thought it
was a good piece, but they hacked it to shreds. :( 

Training is a database developer/designer's best friend. :) 

Susan H. 

Yes, actually our MIS department and our data entery department work
together to enforce standards for data entry such as abreviations and use of
special characters. There is also a step of quality control after all data
is entered each day to ensure acurracy.

Susan Harkins <ssharkins at bellsouth.net> wrote:So you both depend on the data
entry person to enter Harkins Sales instead of Sales Harkins? 

That's interesting. ;) 




From ssharkins at bellsouth.net  Thu Jun 23 10:24:38 2005
From: ssharkins at bellsouth.net (Susan Harkins)
Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2005 11:24:38 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Normalizing issue
In-Reply-To: <JKEJKMLAODCACEAIJLPAIECFDDAA.reuben@gfconsultants.com>
Message-ID: <20050623152456.MEOM25209.ibm63aec.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>

I see your point -- but how do you handle those times when you're not
gleaning middle names, just first and last -- for instance, a simple mailing
list where you don't want to include middle names, but where the person
"goes by" Sales Harkins... You'd leave off Sales -- which isn't a crisis,
but could make some people mad. 

For me, Sales is just part of my writing name -- I don't use it officially
-- don't' sign anything with it, but it's an identifier. 

Years ago, I learned that another Susan Harkins was the editor of another
technical journal -- that was just too close for comfort -- I added the
Sales. 

Now, if you sent me a letter addressed to Susan Harkins, I wouldn't care or
get angry -- but some might. Is this worth considering? I suppose one answer
is to simply always use the middle name in all cases, but that seems
overkill. 

Susan H. 

I use middle name.  My feeling is that no one cares if it's actually a last
name or middle name.  Either way it's in the right place all the time if you
use a middle name field.

The question really is how is that person listed on legal documents.  If,
for example, you are listed on your mortgage or social security (or
whatever) as Last name = Sales Harkins, First name = Susan then that's the
last name, but if you use it "unofficially" then I would make it a middle
name.

Reuben Cummings
GFC, LLC
phone: 812.523.1017
email: reuben at gfconsultants.com


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Susan Harkins
Sent: Thursday, June 23, 2005 9:46 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Normalizing issue


So you both depend on the data entry person to enter Harkins Sales instead
of Sales Harkins?

That's interesting. ;)

Susan H.

The number of records that have a second last name vs those that don't
dosen't warrant our efforts to program around it. We put the burden of
keying it in properly on the business/clerical departments.


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From cfoust at infostatsystems.com  Thu Jun 23 10:28:32 2005
From: cfoust at infostatsystems.com (Charlotte Foust)
Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2005 08:28:32 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Just Checking....
Message-ID: <E61FC1D4B1918244905B113C680BEA86873ABE@infoserver01.infostat.local>

Um ... The muscle relaxants or the back spasms??

Charlotte Foust


-----Original Message-----
From: Joe Hecht [mailto:jmhecht at earthlink.net] 
Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2005 9:55 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Just Checking....


Please share

Joe Hecht
Los Angeles CA

Blame the muscle relaxants
for back spasms, please. <g>





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From mikedorism at verizon.net  Thu Jun 23 10:30:11 2005
From: mikedorism at verizon.net (Mike & Doris Manning)
Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2005 11:30:11 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] DateName Function
In-Reply-To: <000f01c57802$5fee5610$64aba8c0@ashlandnet.com>
Message-ID: <000401c57808$736a8780$2f01a8c0@hargrove.internal>

Use DatePart to get the month name instead.

Doris Manning
Database Administrator
Hargrove Inc.
www.hargroveinc.com

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Keith Williamson
Sent: Thursday, June 23, 2005 10:47 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] DateName Function


Anyone know how to deal with this?

I am collating data for daily sales.  The data I am given is total sales per
day, for the past three years.  Ideally I want to turn this into a graphic
comparing monthly sales for each year (ie.  3-dimensional comparison of each
month's sales, compared to prior history.)

The problem I am having is that I run a sum query to give me monthly sales,
for each year, using the month function (ie.  Month([date]) &
year([date])...and summarizing on that.)

What I wind up with is:
Expr1:Month([date]) field = 1, 2, 3, 4,....12
Expr2:Year([date]) field = 2003, 2004, 2005
SumofSales field = currency value of sales for that month/year

One row of data that might be returned:

1, 2003, 25000


Now ...I can make a graph of this...but it doesn't look good 1-2003 vs.
1-2004 vs. 1-2005

Obviously...I would rather it say January 2003 vs. January 2004 vs. January
2005

BUT>>>>  When I try to use the DateName Function on Month([date])
field....it doesn't work:

DateName([expr1])

When I run the query, I get a request for value dialogue box for Expr1.

Do I need to format the function a certain way to get it to calculate
DateName on a function(month([date])??

Thanks for any help!!!

Regards,

Keith E. Williamson
Ashland Equipment, Inc
phone # (410) 273-1856
fax #     (410) 273-1859



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From cfoust at infostatsystems.com  Thu Jun 23 10:33:23 2005
From: cfoust at infostatsystems.com (Charlotte Foust)
Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2005 08:33:23 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Normalizing issue
Message-ID: <E61FC1D4B1918244905B113C680BEA86873ABF@infoserver01.infostat.local>

If it isn't a middle or maiden name, what is it?  This gets even more
tricky with non-English names where "last" names can get really
confusing.  I generally provide a field for first, middle, and last name
and make it the responsibility of the user to enter the appropriate
value in the appropriate field.  The rules for parsing this can become
so draconian, that it hardly seems worth the work to do anything else.

Charlotte Foust


-----Original Message-----
From: Susan Harkins [mailto:ssharkins at bellsouth.net] 
Sent: Thursday, June 23, 2005 7:00 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] Normalizing issue


How do you guys deal with people that use three or more names
professionally? I do -- Susan Sales Harkins. 
 
Do you store the second name with the first or use three fields? The
middle name really isn't a "middle" name. It's actually part of the last
name, but the last name is the real last name -- so if you stored it
with the last name, you'd have to depend on users to enter it correctly,
as in Harkins, Sales --  which is a mistake before you even get
started... And how do you write in the flexibility that handles 2 or 3
names? 
 
Susan H. 
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From ssharkins at bellsouth.net  Thu Jun 23 10:42:31 2005
From: ssharkins at bellsouth.net (Susan Harkins)
Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2005 11:42:31 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Normalizing issue
In-Reply-To: <E61FC1D4B1918244905B113C680BEA86873ABF@infoserver01.infostat.local>
Message-ID: <20050623154231.MOKU25209.ibm63aec.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>

 
If it isn't a middle or maiden name, what is it?  This gets even more tricky
with non-English names where "last" names can get really confusing.  I
generally provide a field for first, middle, and last name and make it the
responsibility of the user to enter the appropriate value in the appropriate
field.  The rules for parsing this can become so draconian, that it hardly
seems worth the work to do anything else.

========I'm in the middle of creating a database (pro bono) for a writer's
organization. It's a simple deal and will require little work -- but this is
already cropping up. These people will want their "writing" names with their
publications -- I'm thinking about just adding one more field to store their
"pen name" or whatever -- but then that becomes a nuisance if their name and
professional name are the same -- gotta fill in both or allow for the blanks
and go find the real name -- such a nuisance -- 

I think at this point the middle name is the best solution -- 

Susan H. 



From cfoust at infostatsystems.com  Thu Jun 23 10:50:47 2005
From: cfoust at infostatsystems.com (Charlotte Foust)
Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2005 08:50:47 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Normalizing issue
Message-ID: <E61FC1D4B1918244905B113C680BEA86873AC0@infoserver01.infostat.local>

Since it's a writer's database, a separate *table* for pen names makes a
lot of sense.  Some writers use multiple pen names, so creating a
pseudonym table is the safest way to handle that and relate it to the
writer's actual name.  You could always use the real name as the default
when filling in a pen name.

Charlotte Foust


-----Original Message-----
From: Susan Harkins [mailto:ssharkins at bellsouth.net] 
Sent: Thursday, June 23, 2005 8:43 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Normalizing issue


 
If it isn't a middle or maiden name, what is it?  This gets even more
tricky with non-English names where "last" names can get really
confusing.  I generally provide a field for first, middle, and last name
and make it the responsibility of the user to enter the appropriate
value in the appropriate field.  The rules for parsing this can become
so draconian, that it hardly seems worth the work to do anything else.

========I'm in the middle of creating a database (pro bono) for a
writer's organization. It's a simple deal and will require little work
-- but this is already cropping up. These people will want their
"writing" names with their publications -- I'm thinking about just
adding one more field to store their "pen name" or whatever -- but then
that becomes a nuisance if their name and professional name are the same
-- gotta fill in both or allow for the blanks and go find the real name
-- such a nuisance -- 

I think at this point the middle name is the best solution -- 

Susan H. 

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From prodevmg at yahoo.com  Thu Jun 23 10:53:27 2005
From: prodevmg at yahoo.com (Lonnie Johnson)
Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2005 08:53:27 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [AccessD] Normalizing issue
In-Reply-To: <20050623152456.MEOM25209.ibm63aec.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>
Message-ID: <20050623155327.10646.qmail@web33109.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Question:
 
What do you do if they actually have a middle name and two last names?

Susan Harkins <ssharkins at bellsouth.net> wrote:
I see your point -- but how do you handle those times when you're not
gleaning middle names, just first and last -- for instance, a simple mailing
list where you don't want to include middle names, but where the person
"goes by" Sales Harkins... You'd leave off Sales -- which isn't a crisis,
but could make some people mad. 

For me, Sales is just part of my writing name -- I don't use it officially
-- don't' sign anything with it, but it's an identifier. 

Years ago, I learned that another Susan Harkins was the editor of another
technical journal -- that was just too close for comfort -- I added the
Sales. 

Now, if you sent me a letter addressed to Susan Harkins, I wouldn't care or
get angry -- but some might. Is this worth considering? I suppose one answer
is to simply always use the middle name in all cases, but that seems
overkill. 

Susan H. 

I use middle name. My feeling is that no one cares if it's actually a last
name or middle name. Either way it's in the right place all the time if you
use a middle name field.

The question really is how is that person listed on legal documents. If,
for example, you are listed on your mortgage or social security (or
whatever) as Last name = Sales Harkins, First name = Susan then that's the
last name, but if you use it "unofficially" then I would make it a middle
name.

Reuben Cummings
GFC, LLC
phone: 812.523.1017
email: reuben at gfconsultants.com


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Susan Harkins
Sent: Thursday, June 23, 2005 9:46 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Normalizing issue


So you both depend on the data entry person to enter Harkins Sales instead
of Sales Harkins?

That's interesting. ;)

Susan H.

The number of records that have a second last name vs those that don't
dosen't warrant our efforts to program around it. We put the burden of
keying it in properly on the business/clerical departments.


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From kwilliam at ashlandnet.com  Thu Jun 23 11:00:32 2005
From: kwilliam at ashlandnet.com (Keith Williamson)
Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2005 12:00:32 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] DateName Function
In-Reply-To: <000401c57808$736a8780$2f01a8c0@hargrove.internal>
Message-ID: <000001c5780c$afdcf000$64aba8c0@ashlandnet.com>

AAHHHHH!!  Never used that function.  PERFECT!!!

Thanks!!!!

Keith E. Williamson
Ashland Equipment, Inc
phone # (410) 273-1856
fax #     (410) 273-1859


-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Mike & Doris
Manning
Sent: Thursday, June 23, 2005 11:30 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] DateName Function


Use DatePart to get the month name instead.

Doris Manning
Database Administrator
Hargrove Inc.
www.hargroveinc.com

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Sent: Thursday, June 23, 2005 10:47 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] DateName Function


Anyone know how to deal with this?

I am collating data for daily sales.  The data I am given is total sales per
day, for the past three years.  Ideally I want to turn this into a graphic
comparing monthly sales for each year (ie.  3-dimensional comparison of each
month's sales, compared to prior history.)

The problem I am having is that I run a sum query to give me monthly sales,
for each year, using the month function (ie.  Month([date]) &
year([date])...and summarizing on that.)

What I wind up with is:
Expr1:Month([date]) field = 1, 2, 3, 4,....12
Expr2:Year([date]) field = 2003, 2004, 2005
SumofSales field = currency value of sales for that month/year

One row of data that might be returned:

1, 2003, 25000


Now ...I can make a graph of this...but it doesn't look good 1-2003 vs.
1-2004 vs. 1-2005

Obviously...I would rather it say January 2003 vs. January 2004 vs. January
2005

BUT>>>>  When I try to use the DateName Function on Month([date])
field....it doesn't work:

DateName([expr1])

When I run the query, I get a request for value dialogue box for Expr1.

Do I need to format the function a certain way to get it to calculate
DateName on a function(month([date])??

Thanks for any help!!!

Regards,

Keith E. Williamson
Ashland Equipment, Inc
phone # (410) 273-1856
fax #     (410) 273-1859



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From bchacc at san.rr.com  Thu Jun 23 11:25:31 2005
From: bchacc at san.rr.com (Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software)
Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2005 09:25:31 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Turn Off Help Box in Access 2003
Message-ID: <008701c57810$2cf39d20$6701a8c0@HAL9004>

Dear List:
In access 2003 up in the right corner by the maximize, minimize and close buttons there's a help box.  Does anyone know the syntax for turning this thing off through code?

MTIA

Rocky Smolin
Beach Access Software
http://www.e-z-mrp.com
858-259-4334


From reuben at gfconsultants.com  Thu Jun 23 11:38:34 2005
From: reuben at gfconsultants.com (Reuben Cummings)
Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2005 11:38:34 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Normalizing issue
In-Reply-To: <20050623152456.MEOM25209.ibm63aec.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>
Message-ID: <JKEJKMLAODCACEAIJLPAKECIDDAA.reuben@gfconsultants.com>

>>I see your point -- but how do you handle those times when you're not
	gleaning middle names, just first and last

>>What do you do if they actually have a middle name and two last names?

Again, I feel it depends on their legal name or how they register
themselves.  If someone is hell bent on being called Sales Harkins (sorry
Susan, but you are the best example we have going) then that should be
entered as the last name, IMO.

Of course, you could store the names in any manner and do something like
Outlook does where it automatically gives you options of how to store and
show the name.  I think this is the best way - to create a routine for
defining the name to use.

For example, my mom had an employee called Janine (last name Baxter).
However, she insisted that all writing to her or any she signed be done as
N. Janine Baxter.  In the example I am making above you could make the first
name N., middle name Janine, last name Baxter and then define it in a
separate procedure to print that way.

This is one of those never ending arguments, isn't it.  :)

Reuben Cummings
GFC, LLC
phone: 812.523.1017
email: reuben at gfconsultants.com


-----Original Message-----
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Sent: Thursday, June 23, 2005 10:25 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Normalizing issue


I see your point -- but how do you handle those times when you're not
gleaning middle names, just first and last -- for instance, a simple mailing
list where you don't want to include middle names, but where the person
"goes by" Sales Harkins... You'd leave off Sales -- which isn't a crisis,
but could make some people mad.

For me, Sales is just part of my writing name -- I don't use it officially
-- don't' sign anything with it, but it's an identifier.

Years ago, I learned that another Susan Harkins was the editor of another
technical journal -- that was just too close for comfort -- I added the
Sales.

Now, if you sent me a letter addressed to Susan Harkins, I wouldn't care or
get angry -- but some might. Is this worth considering? I suppose one answer
is to simply always use the middle name in all cases, but that seems
overkill.

Susan H.

I use middle name.  My feeling is that no one cares if it's actually a last
name or middle name.  Either way it's in the right place all the time if you
use a middle name field.

The question really is how is that person listed on legal documents.  If,
for example, you are listed on your mortgage or social security (or
whatever) as Last name = Sales Harkins, First name = Susan then that's the
last name, but if you use it "unofficially" then I would make it a middle
name.

Reuben Cummings
GFC, LLC
phone: 812.523.1017
email: reuben at gfconsultants.com


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Sent: Thursday, June 23, 2005 9:46 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Normalizing issue


So you both depend on the data entry person to enter Harkins Sales instead
of Sales Harkins?

That's interesting. ;)

Susan H.

The number of records that have a second last name vs those that don't
dosen't warrant our efforts to program around it. We put the burden of
keying it in properly on the business/clerical departments.


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From john at winhaven.net  Thu Jun 23 11:36:30 2005
From: john at winhaven.net (John Bartow)
Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2005 11:36:30 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Normalizing issue
In-Reply-To: <20050623154231.MOKU25209.ibm63aec.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>
Message-ID: <200506231636.j5NGaU81135946@pimout1-ext.prodigy.net>

Some cultures commonly use hyphenated names which include the maternal and
paternal names for offspring. Anyone on the list from such an area? Doesn't
Spain have one of those cultures?

John B.
 
If it isn't a middle or maiden name, what is it?  This gets even more tricky
with non-English names where "last" names can get really confusing.



From john at winhaven.net  Thu Jun 23 11:54:53 2005
From: john at winhaven.net (John Bartow)
Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2005 11:54:53 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Normalizing issue
In-Reply-To: <JKEJKMLAODCACEAIJLPAKECIDDAA.reuben@gfconsultants.com>
Message-ID: <200506231654.j5NGsrX0119546@pimout1-ext.prodigy.net>

I think so. But I hope you all come with a good answer to this so I can
store it in my tips & tricks db :o)

I've run into one really bad name example some years ago. I had an app that
tracked donors for an organization. The couple wanted BOTH of their names on
the address label and she used a hyphenated name but he didn't. Something
like "Joe Smith & Sue Jones-Smith".

I could have easily tracked them as individuals but they only wanted ONE
piece of mail.

I also could have also tracked them as an Organization or Business and used
"Joe Smith & Sue Jones-Smith" as an Organization name, with both of them
listed as contacts for the Organization but that didn't cover every single
instance of mailing and/or reports quite correctly and my customer didn't
want to offend any of their donors by accident.

I think we ended up putting his first & last name in the firstname field and
her first name and hyphenated last-name in the lastname field. Which of
course messed up the alphabetical internal lists of donors.

I considered adding a spousename field and doing some complicated queries to
get things correctly listed on the label but thankfully (for me anyway) they
left the area and quit donating to the organization - problem solved! So the
customer was happy and I quit thinking about it.

John B.


This is one of those never ending arguments, isn't it.  :)

Reuben Cummings
GFC, LLC
phone: 812.523.1017
email: reuben at gfconsultants.com



From ssharkins at bellsouth.net  Thu Jun 23 11:57:53 2005
From: ssharkins at bellsouth.net (Susan Harkins)
Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2005 12:57:53 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Normalizing issue
In-Reply-To: <E61FC1D4B1918244905B113C680BEA86873AC0@infoserver01.infostat.local>
Message-ID: <20050623165754.PKKR11957.ibm56aec.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>

I've been considering this, this morning and I think what I've finally come
up with is this:

A member name -- that's their real name -- which will relate to their books.
I "think" I will add a pen name field to the book table -- if they wrote the
name under another name, it'll be there for searches, write-up's, whatever.
But, there's only going to be one pen name for each book, so I think it's
safe to do this. What do you think? 

Susan H. 

Since it's a writer's database, a separate *table* for pen names makes a lot
of sense.  Some writers use multiple pen names, so creating a pseudonym
table is the safest way to handle that and relate it to the writer's actual
name.  You could always use the real name as the default when filling in a
pen name.

Charlotte Foust


-----Original Message-----
From: Susan Harkins [mailto:ssharkins at bellsouth.net]
Sent: Thursday, June 23, 2005 8:43 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Normalizing issue


 
If it isn't a middle or maiden name, what is it?  This gets even more
tricky with non-English names where "last" names can get really
confusing.  I generally provide a field for first, middle, and last name
and make it the responsibility of the user to enter the appropriate
value in the appropriate field.  The rules for parsing this can become
so draconian, that it hardly seems worth the work to do anything else.

========I'm in the middle of creating a database (pro bono) for a
writer's organization. It's a simple deal and will require little work
-- but this is already cropping up. These people will want their
"writing" names with their publications -- I'm thinking about just
adding one more field to store their "pen name" or whatever -- but then
that becomes a nuisance if their name and professional name are the same
-- gotta fill in both or allow for the blanks and go find the real name
-- such a nuisance -- 

I think at this point the middle name is the best solution -- 

Susan H. 

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From jimdettman at earthlink.net  Thu Jun 23 12:08:15 2005
From: jimdettman at earthlink.net (Jim Dettman)
Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2005 13:08:15 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Normalizing issue
In-Reply-To: <20050623165754.PKKR11957.ibm56aec.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>
Message-ID: <NDEALJOEGMMPCDKIFGNFMECKDKAA.jimdettman@earthlink.net>

Susan,

  I'd second Charlotte's comment.  I'd definitely would have a field for a
pen name.

<<But, there's only going to be one pen name for each book, so I think it's
safe to do this. What do you think? >>

  No, because I might use the same pen name for many books.  If at some
point they want to know something like "when was this pen name created",
then your in trouble.

Should be:

tblMembers
MemberID
MemberName
DateCreated

tblPenNames
PenID
PenName
DateCreated
Bio

tblBooks
BookID
PenID

Jim.


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Susan Harkins
Sent: Thursday, June 23, 2005 12:58 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Normalizing issue


I've been considering this, this morning and I think what I've finally come
up with is this:

A member name -- that's their real name -- which will relate to their books.
I "think" I will add a pen name field to the book table -- if they wrote the
name under another name, it'll be there for searches, write-up's, whatever.
But, there's only going to be one pen name for each book, so I think it's
safe to do this. What do you think?

Susan H.

Since it's a writer's database, a separate *table* for pen names makes a lot
of sense.  Some writers use multiple pen names, so creating a pseudonym
table is the safest way to handle that and relate it to the writer's actual
name.  You could always use the real name as the default when filling in a
pen name.

Charlotte Foust


-----Original Message-----
From: Susan Harkins [mailto:ssharkins at bellsouth.net]
Sent: Thursday, June 23, 2005 8:43 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Normalizing issue



If it isn't a middle or maiden name, what is it?  This gets even more
tricky with non-English names where "last" names can get really
confusing.  I generally provide a field for first, middle, and last name
and make it the responsibility of the user to enter the appropriate
value in the appropriate field.  The rules for parsing this can become
so draconian, that it hardly seems worth the work to do anything else.

========I'm in the middle of creating a database (pro bono) for a
writer's organization. It's a simple deal and will require little work
-- but this is already cropping up. These people will want their
"writing" names with their publications -- I'm thinking about just
adding one more field to store their "pen name" or whatever -- but then
that becomes a nuisance if their name and professional name are the same
-- gotta fill in both or allow for the blanks and go find the real name
-- such a nuisance --

I think at this point the middle name is the best solution --

Susan H.

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From jimdettman at earthlink.net  Thu Jun 23 12:10:17 2005
From: jimdettman at earthlink.net (Jim Dettman)
Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2005 13:10:17 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Normalizing issue
In-Reply-To: <20050623165754.PKKR11957.ibm56aec.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>
Message-ID: <NDEALJOEGMMPCDKIFGNFIECLDKAA.jimdettman@earthlink.net>

Slight correction:

tblMembers
MemberID
MemberName
DateCreated

tblPenNames
PenID
MemberID
PenName
DateCreated
Bio

tblBooks
BookID
PenID

Jim.

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Susan Harkins
Sent: Thursday, June 23, 2005 12:58 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Normalizing issue


I've been considering this, this morning and I think what I've finally come
up with is this:

A member name -- that's their real name -- which will relate to their books.
I "think" I will add a pen name field to the book table -- if they wrote the
name under another name, it'll be there for searches, write-up's, whatever.
But, there's only going to be one pen name for each book, so I think it's
safe to do this. What do you think?

Susan H.

Since it's a writer's database, a separate *table* for pen names makes a lot
of sense.  Some writers use multiple pen names, so creating a pseudonym
table is the safest way to handle that and relate it to the writer's actual
name.  You could always use the real name as the default when filling in a
pen name.

Charlotte Foust


-----Original Message-----
From: Susan Harkins [mailto:ssharkins at bellsouth.net]
Sent: Thursday, June 23, 2005 8:43 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Normalizing issue



If it isn't a middle or maiden name, what is it?  This gets even more
tricky with non-English names where "last" names can get really
confusing.  I generally provide a field for first, middle, and last name
and make it the responsibility of the user to enter the appropriate
value in the appropriate field.  The rules for parsing this can become
so draconian, that it hardly seems worth the work to do anything else.

========I'm in the middle of creating a database (pro bono) for a
writer's organization. It's a simple deal and will require little work
-- but this is already cropping up. These people will want their
"writing" names with their publications -- I'm thinking about just
adding one more field to store their "pen name" or whatever -- but then
that becomes a nuisance if their name and professional name are the same
-- gotta fill in both or allow for the blanks and go find the real name
-- such a nuisance --

I think at this point the middle name is the best solution --

Susan H.

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From ssharkins at bellsouth.net  Thu Jun 23 12:10:42 2005
From: ssharkins at bellsouth.net (Susan Harkins)
Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2005 13:10:42 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Normalizing issue
In-Reply-To: <NDEALJOEGMMPCDKIFGNFMECKDKAA.jimdettman@earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <20050623171043.PSCL11957.ibm56aec.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>

Yes, a field for the book author name -- but a different table? 

I was considering that having it as a field in the book table makes it more
difficult to relate actual members with each author name -- as they may have
more than one. Most in this group aren't going to run into this -- but I'd
rather allow for it now than have it bite me in the butt. 

Susan H. 

Susan,

  I'd second Charlotte's comment.  I'd definitely would have a field for a
pen name.

<<But, there's only going to be one pen name for each book, so I think it's
safe to do this. What do you think? >>

  No, because I might use the same pen name for many books.  If at some
point they want to know something like "when was this pen name created",
then your in trouble.

Should be:

tblMembers
MemberID
MemberName
DateCreated

tblPenNames
PenID
PenName
DateCreated
Bio

tblBooks
BookID
PenID

Jim.


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Susan Harkins
Sent: Thursday, June 23, 2005 12:58 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Normalizing issue


I've been considering this, this morning and I think what I've finally come
up with is this:

A member name -- that's their real name -- which will relate to their books.
I "think" I will add a pen name field to the book table -- if they wrote the
name under another name, it'll be there for searches, write-up's, whatever.
But, there's only going to be one pen name for each book, so I think it's
safe to do this. What do you think?

Susan H.

Since it's a writer's database, a separate *table* for pen names makes a lot
of sense.  Some writers use multiple pen names, so creating a pseudonym
table is the safest way to handle that and relate it to the writer's actual
name.  You could always use the real name as the default when filling in a
pen name.

Charlotte Foust


-----Original Message-----
From: Susan Harkins [mailto:ssharkins at bellsouth.net]
Sent: Thursday, June 23, 2005 8:43 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Normalizing issue



If it isn't a middle or maiden name, what is it?  This gets even more tricky
with non-English names where "last" names can get really confusing.  I
generally provide a field for first, middle, and last name and make it the
responsibility of the user to enter the appropriate value in the appropriate
field.  The rules for parsing this can become so draconian, that it hardly
seems worth the work to do anything else.

========I'm in the middle of creating a database (pro bono) for a writer's
organization. It's a simple deal and will require little work
-- but this is already cropping up. These people will want their "writing"
names with their publications -- I'm thinking about just adding one more
field to store their "pen name" or whatever -- but then that becomes a
nuisance if their name and professional name are the same
-- gotta fill in both or allow for the blanks and go find the real name
-- such a nuisance --

I think at this point the middle name is the best solution --

Susan H.

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From ssharkins at bellsouth.net  Thu Jun 23 12:13:04 2005
From: ssharkins at bellsouth.net (Susan Harkins)
Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2005 13:13:04 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Normalizing issue
In-Reply-To: <NDEALJOEGMMPCDKIFGNFIECLDKAA.jimdettman@earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <20050623171307.PTPV11957.ibm56aec.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>

OK -- so you're relating the pen name table to the member name and then
relating the book table to the pen name table?

-----Original Message-----
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Sent: Thursday, June 23, 2005 1:10 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Normalizing issue

Slight correction:

tblMembers
MemberID
MemberName
DateCreated

tblPenNames
PenID
MemberID
PenName
DateCreated
Bio

tblBooks
BookID
PenID

Jim.

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Susan Harkins
Sent: Thursday, June 23, 2005 12:58 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Normalizing issue


I've been considering this, this morning and I think what I've finally come
up with is this:

A member name -- that's their real name -- which will relate to their books.
I "think" I will add a pen name field to the book table -- if they wrote the
name under another name, it'll be there for searches, write-up's, whatever.
But, there's only going to be one pen name for each book, so I think it's
safe to do this. What do you think?

Susan H.

Since it's a writer's database, a separate *table* for pen names makes a lot
of sense.  Some writers use multiple pen names, so creating a pseudonym
table is the safest way to handle that and relate it to the writer's actual
name.  You could always use the real name as the default when filling in a
pen name.

Charlotte Foust


-----Original Message-----
From: Susan Harkins [mailto:ssharkins at bellsouth.net]
Sent: Thursday, June 23, 2005 8:43 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Normalizing issue



If it isn't a middle or maiden name, what is it?  This gets even more tricky
with non-English names where "last" names can get really confusing.  I
generally provide a field for first, middle, and last name and make it the
responsibility of the user to enter the appropriate value in the appropriate
field.  The rules for parsing this can become so draconian, that it hardly
seems worth the work to do anything else.

========I'm in the middle of creating a database (pro bono) for a writer's
organization. It's a simple deal and will require little work
-- but this is already cropping up. These people will want their "writing"
names with their publications -- I'm thinking about just adding one more
field to store their "pen name" or whatever -- but then that becomes a
nuisance if their name and professional name are the same
-- gotta fill in both or allow for the blanks and go find the real name
-- such a nuisance --

I think at this point the middle name is the best solution --

Susan H.

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From rl_stewart at highstream.net  Thu Jun 23 12:15:23 2005
From: rl_stewart at highstream.net (Robert L. Stewart)
Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2005 12:15:23 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Re: Normalizing issue
In-Reply-To: <200506231636.j5NGaYR14067@databaseadvisors.com>
References: <200506231636.j5NGaYR14067@databaseadvisors.com>
Message-ID: <6.2.1.2.2.20050623121254.0528a990@pop3.highstream.net>

Susan,


tblParty
PartyID

tblPartyAlias
PartyAliasID
PartyID
Company_Last_Name
Middle_Name
First_Name
Name_Suffix

Robert

At 11:36 AM 6/23/2005, you wrote:
>Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2005 09:59:59 -0400
>From: "Susan Harkins" <ssharkins at bellsouth.net>
>Subject: [AccessD] Normalizing issue
>To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'"
>         <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
>Message-ID: <20050623135959.FMWJ25470.ibm57aec.bellsouth.net at SUSANONE>
>Content-Type: text/plain;       charset="us-ascii"
>
>How do you guys deal with people that use three or more names
>professionally? I do -- Susan Sales Harkins.
>
>Do you store the second name with the first or use three fields? The middle
>name really isn't a "middle" name. It's actually part of the last name, but
>the last name is the real last name -- so if you stored it with the last
>name, you'd have to depend on users to enter it correctly, as in Harkins,
>Sales --  which is a mistake before you even get started... And how do you
>write in the flexibility that handles 2 or 3 names?
>
>Susan H.




From rl_stewart at highstream.net  Thu Jun 23 12:21:13 2005
From: rl_stewart at highstream.net (Robert L. Stewart)
Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2005 12:21:13 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Re: Normalizing issue
In-Reply-To: <200506231636.j5NGaYR14067@databaseadvisors.com>
References: <200506231636.j5NGaYR14067@databaseadvisors.com>
Message-ID: <6.2.1.2.2.20050623121942.05229bc8@pop3.highstream.net>

Or like my oldest son:

Robert Christopher Lawrence Stewart

2 middle names.

Not even the social security card shows both, it is C.L. on it.

At 11:36 AM 6/23/2005, you wrote:
>Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2005 08:53:27 -0700 (PDT)
>From: Lonnie Johnson <prodevmg at yahoo.com>
>Subject: RE: [AccessD] Normalizing issue
>To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
>         <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
>Message-ID: <20050623155327.10646.qmail at web33109.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
>Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
>
>Question:
>
>What do you do if they actually have a middle name and two last names?




From jimdettman at earthlink.net  Thu Jun 23 12:23:17 2005
From: jimdettman at earthlink.net (Jim Dettman)
Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2005 13:23:17 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Normalizing issue
In-Reply-To: <20050623171043.PSCL11957.ibm56aec.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>
Message-ID: <NDEALJOEGMMPCDKIFGNFIECNDKAA.jimdettman@earthlink.net>

Susan,

<<Yes, a field for the book author name -- but a different table?>>

  That's one of those tough calls.  Certainly it is possible that I would
have multiple pen names and with each name, may have multiple books.  That
makes me think a separate table right away.

  But also consider this:

tblMembers
MemberID
MemberName

tblBooks
BookID
MemberID
PenName

  I write five books and on the 5th one, the user types in "JMD" instead of
"JND" as the pen name on the book.

  Now when I ask the question, "how many books have been written as "JND"?",
I'll get the wrong answer.  The mistake would get caught if I looked at all
the books written under my member name, but only if they know that "JMD" is
a mistake and really not a different pen name.

  That would not happen with a separate table for the pseudonym's.

Jim.

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Susan Harkins
Sent: Thursday, June 23, 2005 1:11 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Normalizing issue


Yes, a field for the book author name -- but a different table?

I was considering that having it as a field in the book table makes it more
difficult to relate actual members with each author name -- as they may have
more than one. Most in this group aren't going to run into this -- but I'd
rather allow for it now than have it bite me in the butt.

Susan H.

Susan,

  I'd second Charlotte's comment.  I'd definitely would have a field for a
pen name.

<<But, there's only going to be one pen name for each book, so I think it's
safe to do this. What do you think? >>

  No, because I might use the same pen name for many books.  If at some
point they want to know something like "when was this pen name created",
then your in trouble.

Should be:

tblMembers
MemberID
MemberName
DateCreated

tblPenNames
PenID
PenName
DateCreated
Bio

tblBooks
BookID
PenID

Jim.


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Susan Harkins
Sent: Thursday, June 23, 2005 12:58 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Normalizing issue


I've been considering this, this morning and I think what I've finally come
up with is this:

A member name -- that's their real name -- which will relate to their books.
I "think" I will add a pen name field to the book table -- if they wrote the
name under another name, it'll be there for searches, write-up's, whatever.
But, there's only going to be one pen name for each book, so I think it's
safe to do this. What do you think?

Susan H.

Since it's a writer's database, a separate *table* for pen names makes a lot
of sense.  Some writers use multiple pen names, so creating a pseudonym
table is the safest way to handle that and relate it to the writer's actual
name.  You could always use the real name as the default when filling in a
pen name.

Charlotte Foust


-----Original Message-----
From: Susan Harkins [mailto:ssharkins at bellsouth.net]
Sent: Thursday, June 23, 2005 8:43 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Normalizing issue



If it isn't a middle or maiden name, what is it?  This gets even more tricky
with non-English names where "last" names can get really confusing.  I
generally provide a field for first, middle, and last name and make it the
responsibility of the user to enter the appropriate value in the appropriate
field.  The rules for parsing this can become so draconian, that it hardly
seems worth the work to do anything else.

========I'm in the middle of creating a database (pro bono) for a writer's
organization. It's a simple deal and will require little work
-- but this is already cropping up. These people will want their "writing"
names with their publications -- I'm thinking about just adding one more
field to store their "pen name" or whatever -- but then that becomes a
nuisance if their name and professional name are the same
-- gotta fill in both or allow for the blanks and go find the real name
-- such a nuisance --

I think at this point the middle name is the best solution --

Susan H.

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From jimdettman at earthlink.net  Thu Jun 23 12:23:17 2005
From: jimdettman at earthlink.net (Jim Dettman)
Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2005 13:23:17 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Normalizing issue
In-Reply-To: <20050623171307.PTPV11957.ibm56aec.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>
Message-ID: <NDEALJOEGMMPCDKIFGNFKECNDKAA.jimdettman@earthlink.net>

<<OK -- so you're relating the pen name table to the member name and then
relating the book table to the pen name table?>>

  Yes.

Jim.

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Susan Harkins
Sent: Thursday, June 23, 2005 1:13 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Normalizing issue


OK -- so you're relating the pen name table to the member name and then
relating the book table to the pen name table?

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim Dettman
Sent: Thursday, June 23, 2005 1:10 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Normalizing issue

Slight correction:

tblMembers
MemberID
MemberName
DateCreated

tblPenNames
PenID
MemberID
PenName
DateCreated
Bio

tblBooks
BookID
PenID

Jim.

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Susan Harkins
Sent: Thursday, June 23, 2005 12:58 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Normalizing issue


I've been considering this, this morning and I think what I've finally come
up with is this:

A member name -- that's their real name -- which will relate to their books.
I "think" I will add a pen name field to the book table -- if they wrote the
name under another name, it'll be there for searches, write-up's, whatever.
But, there's only going to be one pen name for each book, so I think it's
safe to do this. What do you think?

Susan H.

Since it's a writer's database, a separate *table* for pen names makes a lot
of sense.  Some writers use multiple pen names, so creating a pseudonym
table is the safest way to handle that and relate it to the writer's actual
name.  You could always use the real name as the default when filling in a
pen name.

Charlotte Foust


-----Original Message-----
From: Susan Harkins [mailto:ssharkins at bellsouth.net]
Sent: Thursday, June 23, 2005 8:43 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Normalizing issue



If it isn't a middle or maiden name, what is it?  This gets even more tricky
with non-English names where "last" names can get really confusing.  I
generally provide a field for first, middle, and last name and make it the
responsibility of the user to enter the appropriate value in the appropriate
field.  The rules for parsing this can become so draconian, that it hardly
seems worth the work to do anything else.

========I'm in the middle of creating a database (pro bono) for a writer's
organization. It's a simple deal and will require little work
-- but this is already cropping up. These people will want their "writing"
names with their publications -- I'm thinking about just adding one more
field to store their "pen name" or whatever -- but then that becomes a
nuisance if their name and professional name are the same
-- gotta fill in both or allow for the blanks and go find the real name
-- such a nuisance --

I think at this point the middle name is the best solution --

Susan H.

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From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com  Thu Jun 23 12:26:31 2005
From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (John W. Colby)
Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2005 13:26:31 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Just Checking....
In-Reply-To: <E61FC1D4B1918244905B113C680BEA86873ABE@infoserver01.infostat.local>
Message-ID: <000001c57818$b6055c40$6c7aa8c0@ColbyM6805>

Hey, the way I read it the muscle relaxants CAUSED the back spasms.  At
least she was blaming the spasms on the muscle relaxants.

;-)

John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com 

Contribute your unused CPU cycles to a good cause:
http://folding.stanford.edu/

-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Charlotte Foust
Sent: Thursday, June 23, 2005 11:29 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Just Checking....


Um ... The muscle relaxants or the back spasms??

Charlotte Foust


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Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2005 9:55 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
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Please share

Joe Hecht
Los Angeles CA

Blame the muscle relaxants
for back spasms, please. <g>





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From rl_stewart at highstream.net  Thu Jun 23 12:33:24 2005
From: rl_stewart at highstream.net (Robert L. Stewart)
Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2005 12:33:24 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Re: Normalizing issue
In-Reply-To: <200506231700.j5NH0LR19895@databaseadvisors.com>
References: <200506231700.j5NH0LR19895@databaseadvisors.com>
Message-ID: <6.2.1.2.2.20050623122441.052b36d0@pop3.highstream.net>

In a normalized world, they are two parties with individual names that are 
related to each other by a specific type of relationship.  Translated to db 
design:

tblParty
PartyID
First_Name
Middle_Name
Last_Name
Name_Suffix

tblPartyAlias
PartyAliasID
PartyID
GoesByName

tblPartyRelationship
PartyRelationshipID
PartyID
RelatedPartyID
RelationshipType
RelationshipGreeting

In the case you listed below, the field RelationshipGreeting would hold the 
combination of their names the way they wanted them.  You could have it 
default to "Joe and Sue Smith" after setting a relationship type of 
spouse.  The edit it as needed for the special cases.  This model also 
incorporates an alias table to hold the solution to what Susan needs for 
her pen names.  All she would need to do is add a table to relate the pen 
names to the publisher for the articles being published.

Arguments aside, if you think the design through, you will not need to 
argue. :-)

Robert


At 12:00 PM 6/23/2005, you wrote:
>Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2005 11:54:53 -0500
>From: "John Bartow" <john at winhaven.net>
>Subject: RE: [AccessD] Normalizing issue
>To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'"
>         <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
>Message-ID: <200506231654.j5NGsrX0119546 at pimout1-ext.prodigy.net>
>Content-Type: text/plain;       charset="us-ascii"
>
>I think so. But I hope you all come with a good answer to this so I can
>store it in my tips & tricks db :o)
>
>I've run into one really bad name example some years ago. I had an app that
>tracked donors for an organization. The couple wanted BOTH of their names on
>the address label and she used a hyphenated name but he didn't. Something
>like "Joe Smith & Sue Jones-Smith".
>
>I could have easily tracked them as individuals but they only wanted ONE
>piece of mail.
>
>I also could have also tracked them as an Organization or Business and used
>"Joe Smith & Sue Jones-Smith" as an Organization name, with both of them
>listed as contacts for the Organization but that didn't cover every single
>instance of mailing and/or reports quite correctly and my customer didn't
>want to offend any of their donors by accident.
>
>I think we ended up putting his first & last name in the firstname field and
>her first name and hyphenated last-name in the lastname field. Which of
>course messed up the alphabetical internal lists of donors.
>
>I considered adding a spousename field and doing some complicated queries to
>get things correctly listed on the label but thankfully (for me anyway) they
>left the area and quit donating to the organization - problem solved! So the
>customer was happy and I quit thinking about it.
>
>John B.
>
>
>This is one of those never ending arguments, isn't it.  :)
>
>Reuben Cummings




From DWUTKA at marlow.com  Thu Jun 23 12:38:19 2005
From: DWUTKA at marlow.com (DWUTKA at marlow.com)
Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2005 12:38:19 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] FW: You have been unsubscribed from the Dba-exec mailing
	list
Message-ID: <123701F54509D9119A4F00D0B747349016D774@main2.marlow.com>

Just curious...why was I unsubscribed?  Have I been a bad boy or something?

Drew

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Thank you for participating in the managent of DBA


From rl_stewart at highstream.net  Thu Jun 23 12:36:45 2005
From: rl_stewart at highstream.net (Robert L. Stewart)
Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2005 12:36:45 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Re: Normalizing issue
In-Reply-To: <200506231700.j5NH0LR19895@databaseadvisors.com>
References: <200506231700.j5NH0LR19895@databaseadvisors.com>
Message-ID: <6.2.1.2.2.20050623123609.04d87b48@pop3.highstream.net>

Try the alias idea that I sent out a little earlier.  I think that would work.

At 12:00 PM 6/23/2005, you wrote:
>Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2005 12:57:53 -0400
>From: "Susan Harkins" <ssharkins at bellsouth.net>
>Subject: RE: [AccessD] Normalizing issue
>To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'"
>         <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
>Message-ID: <20050623165754.PKKR11957.ibm56aec.bellsouth.net at SUSANONE>
>Content-Type: text/plain;       charset="us-ascii"
>
>I've been considering this, this morning and I think what I've finally come
>up with is this:
>
>A member name -- that's their real name -- which will relate to their books.
>I "think" I will add a pen name field to the book table -- if they wrote the
>name under another name, it'll be there for searches, write-up's, whatever.
>But, there's only going to be one pen name for each book, so I think it's
>safe to do this. What do you think?
>
>Susan H.




From jmhecht at earthlink.net  Thu Jun 23 12:48:20 2005
From: jmhecht at earthlink.net (Joe Hecht)
Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2005 10:48:20 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Just Checking....
In-Reply-To: <E61FC1D4B1918244905B113C680BEA86873ABE@infoserver01.infostat.local>
Message-ID: <000101c5781b$bfaddda0$6401a8c0@laptop1>

The Meds

Joe Hecht
Los Angeles CA

-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Charlotte Foust
Sent: Thursday, June 23, 2005 8:29 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Just Checking....

Um ... The muscle relaxants or the back spasms??

Charlotte Foust


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Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2005 9:55 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Just Checking....


Please share

Joe Hecht
Los Angeles CA

Blame the muscle relaxants
for back spasms, please. <g>





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From john at winhaven.net  Thu Jun 23 12:48:59 2005
From: john at winhaven.net (John Bartow)
Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2005 12:48:59 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] FW: You have been unsubscribed from the Dba-exec
	mailinglist
In-Reply-To: <123701F54509D9119A4F00D0B747349016D774@main2.marlow.com>
Message-ID: <200506231749.j5NHmxWJ424108@pimout2-ext.prodigy.net>

Actually added you by mistake when I was cleaning up the bod list. I clicked
on the wrong shortcut was working in dba-exec and didn't notice right away.

Have you gotten the BOD meeting request via the dba-bod list yet? 

John

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Just curious...why was I unsubscribed?  Have I been a bad boy or something?

Drew

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From john at winhaven.net  Thu Jun 23 12:48:59 2005
From: john at winhaven.net (John Bartow)
Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2005 12:48:59 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Just Checking....
In-Reply-To: <42BA5F98.8107.3B5AFA1@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>
Message-ID: <200506231749.j5NHmxWK424108@pimout2-ext.prodigy.net>

Ee-gads, sounds like a lot of work ahead
:-( 

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Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2005 4:07 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Just Checking....

On 22 Jun 2005 at 11:27, John W. Colby wrote:

> ROTFL.  Yea, I am getting old.
> 
> I am about to launch a field naming convention discussion so look out.  
> ;-)
> 

I've just been asked to taske over some apps which were developed in-house
by a certain organisation in PNG.

Most of them have a table called "MAIN TABLE" which is, believe it or not
the main table used for storing data.

So far I have also come across fields named DATE and NAME  as well as
several fields with 40-50 character fieldnames comprising multiple words
separated by spaces.





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From john at winhaven.net  Thu Jun 23 12:50:35 2005
From: john at winhaven.net (John Bartow)
Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2005 12:50:35 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Re: Normalizing issue
In-Reply-To: <6.2.1.2.2.20050623122441.052b36d0@pop3.highstream.net>
Message-ID: <200506231750.j5NHoZUh298656@pimout2-ext.prodigy.net>

Sounds good, I'm going to give this a whirl when I get a chance.
Thanks,
John B. 

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[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Robert L. Stewart
Sent: Thursday, June 23, 2005 12:33 PM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [AccessD] Re: Normalizing issue

In a normalized world, they are two parties with individual names that are
related to each other by a specific type of relationship.  Translated to db
design:

tblParty
PartyID
First_Name
Middle_Name
Last_Name
Name_Suffix

tblPartyAlias
PartyAliasID
PartyID
GoesByName

tblPartyRelationship
PartyRelationshipID
PartyID
RelatedPartyID
RelationshipType
RelationshipGreeting

In the case you listed below, the field RelationshipGreeting would hold the
combination of their names the way they wanted them.  You could have it
default to "Joe and Sue Smith" after setting a relationship type of spouse.
The edit it as needed for the special cases.  This model also incorporates
an alias table to hold the solution to what Susan needs for her pen names.
All she would need to do is add a table to relate the pen names to the
publisher for the articles being published.

Arguments aside, if you think the design through, you will not need to
argue. :-)

Robert


At 12:00 PM 6/23/2005, you wrote:
>Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2005 11:54:53 -0500
>From: "John Bartow" <john at winhaven.net>
>Subject: RE: [AccessD] Normalizing issue
>To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'"
>         <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
>Message-ID: <200506231654.j5NGsrX0119546 at pimout1-ext.prodigy.net>
>Content-Type: text/plain;       charset="us-ascii"
>
>I think so. But I hope you all come with a good answer to this so I can 
>store it in my tips & tricks db :o)
>
>I've run into one really bad name example some years ago. I had an app 
>that tracked donors for an organization. The couple wanted BOTH of 
>their names on the address label and she used a hyphenated name but he 
>didn't. Something like "Joe Smith & Sue Jones-Smith".
>
>I could have easily tracked them as individuals but they only wanted 
>ONE piece of mail.
>
>I also could have also tracked them as an Organization or Business and 
>used "Joe Smith & Sue Jones-Smith" as an Organization name, with both 
>of them listed as contacts for the Organization but that didn't cover 
>every single instance of mailing and/or reports quite correctly and my 
>customer didn't want to offend any of their donors by accident.
>
>I think we ended up putting his first & last name in the firstname 
>field and her first name and hyphenated last-name in the lastname 
>field. Which of course messed up the alphabetical internal lists of donors.
>
>I considered adding a spousename field and doing some complicated 
>queries to get things correctly listed on the label but thankfully (for 
>me anyway) they left the area and quit donating to the organization - 
>problem solved! So the customer was happy and I quit thinking about it.
>
>John B.
>
>
>This is one of those never ending arguments, isn't it.  :)
>
>Reuben Cummings


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From ssharkins at bellsouth.net  Thu Jun 23 12:51:11 2005
From: ssharkins at bellsouth.net (Susan Harkins)
Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2005 13:51:11 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Just Checking....
In-Reply-To: <200506231749.j5NHmxWK424108@pimout2-ext.prodigy.net>
Message-ID: <20050623175112.VXVF7767.ibm60aec.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>

I wonder if Stuart can say, "...show me the money!" :) 

Susan H. 

Ee-gads, sounds like a lot of work ahead :-( 

> I am about to launch a field naming convention discussion so look out.  
> ;-)



From cfoust at infostatsystems.com  Thu Jun 23 12:54:47 2005
From: cfoust at infostatsystems.com (Charlotte Foust)
Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2005 10:54:47 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Just Checking....
Message-ID: <E61FC1D4B1918244905B113C680BEA86873AC2@infoserver01.infostat.local>

Darn! LOL

Charlotte Foust

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The Meds

Joe Hecht
Los Angeles CA

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Foust
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Um ... The muscle relaxants or the back spasms??

Charlotte Foust


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Please share

Joe Hecht
Los Angeles CA

Blame the muscle relaxants
for back spasms, please. <g>





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From ssharkins at bellsouth.net  Thu Jun 23 12:55:45 2005
From: ssharkins at bellsouth.net (Susan Harkins)
Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2005 13:55:45 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Re: Normalizing issue
In-Reply-To: <200506231750.j5NHoZUh298656@pimout2-ext.prodigy.net>
Message-ID: <20050623175546.WABL7767.ibm60aec.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>

The edit it as needed for the special cases.  This model also incorporates
an alias table to hold the solution to what Susan needs for her pen names.
All she would need to do is add a table to relate the pen names to the
publisher for the articles being published.

===========The alias is all  one field though -- right? I don't think that
would work for pen names as I can see a need for searching on pen name
(think Twain) rather than member name -- and a search for Twain isn't going
to work if the field is "Mark Twain"

Susan H. 



From jmhecht at earthlink.net  Thu Jun 23 12:56:11 2005
From: jmhecht at earthlink.net (Joe Hecht)
Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2005 10:56:11 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Field Naming ( Just once I want to be ahead of JC )
In-Reply-To: <009001c5775d$bb886830$6c7aa8c0@ColbyM6805>
Message-ID: <000201c5781c$d79f35c0$6401a8c0@laptop1>

So does this mean in your world developers should or should not set
relationships in the relationship window.

Joe Hecht
Los Angeles CA

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Subject: RE: [AccessD] Field Naming ( Just once I want to be ahead of JC )

The relationship window specifically.

John W. Colby
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Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2005 3:07 PM
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John,

2) Relationship finding wizards are for wusses who don't create explicit
relationships (should be shot BTW).


I set relationships in either the relationship window or when I build
queries. Is that where you do it?

Have not seen a relationship finding Wizard?

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From cfoust at infostatsystems.com  Thu Jun 23 12:56:22 2005
From: cfoust at infostatsystems.com (Charlotte Foust)
Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2005 10:56:22 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Just Checking....
Message-ID: <E61FC1D4B1918244905B113C680BEA86873AC3@infoserver01.infostat.local>

NOT!  I was blaming the *typo* on the muscle relaxants! So there!  I
think.

Charlotte Foust


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Sent: Thursday, June 23, 2005 10:27 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
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Hey, the way I read it the muscle relaxants CAUSED the back spasms.  At
least she was blaming the spasms on the muscle relaxants.

;-)

John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com 

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[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Charlotte
Foust
Sent: Thursday, June 23, 2005 11:29 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Just Checking....


Um ... The muscle relaxants or the back spasms??

Charlotte Foust


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Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2005 9:55 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
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Please share

Joe Hecht
Los Angeles CA

Blame the muscle relaxants
for back spasms, please. <g>





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From martyconnelly at shaw.ca  Thu Jun 23 13:14:51 2005
From: martyconnelly at shaw.ca (MartyConnelly)
Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2005 11:14:51 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Turn Off Help Box in Access 2003
References: <008701c57810$2cf39d20$6701a8c0@HAL9004>
Message-ID: <42BAFC1B.3070008@shaw.ca>

What's This? This property of the form  can only be turned on by default 
to Yes when MinMax property set to No
So just set Form property What's This to No.

Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software wrote:

>Dear List:
>In access 2003 up in the right corner by the maximize, minimize and close buttons there's a help box.  Does anyone know the syntax for turning this thing off through code?
>
>MTIA
>
>Rocky Smolin
>Beach Access Software
>http://www.e-z-mrp.com
>858-259-4334
>  
>

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From jmhecht at earthlink.net  Thu Jun 23 13:15:12 2005
From: jmhecht at earthlink.net (Joe Hecht)
Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2005 11:15:12 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Normalizing issue
In-Reply-To: <200506231654.j5NGsrX0119546@pimout1-ext.prodigy.net>
Message-ID: <000301c5781f$7fce8f50$6401a8c0@laptop1>

In Designing my invitations tracking DB I looked at today's culture and now
have fields for 2 sets of first, middle and last names. I am still working
out the code for it but the basics would work here.

Joe Hecht
Los Angeles CA

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Sent: Thursday, June 23, 2005 9:55 AM
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I think so. But I hope you all come with a good answer to this so I can
store it in my tips & tricks db :o)

I've run into one really bad name example some years ago. I had an app that
tracked donors for an organization. The couple wanted BOTH of their names on
the address label and she used a hyphenated name but he didn't. Something
like "Joe Smith & Sue Jones-Smith".

I could have easily tracked them as individuals but they only wanted ONE
piece of mail.

I also could have also tracked them as an Organization or Business and used
"Joe Smith & Sue Jones-Smith" as an Organization name, with both of them
listed as contacts for the Organization but that didn't cover every single
instance of mailing and/or reports quite correctly and my customer didn't
want to offend any of their donors by accident.

I think we ended up putting his first & last name in the firstname field and
her first name and hyphenated last-name in the lastname field. Which of
course messed up the alphabetical internal lists of donors.

I considered adding a spousename field and doing some complicated queries to
get things correctly listed on the label but thankfully (for me anyway) they
left the area and quit donating to the organization - problem solved! So the
customer was happy and I quit thinking about it.

John B.


This is one of those never ending arguments, isn't it.  :)

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From ssharkins at bellsouth.net  Thu Jun 23 13:28:24 2005
From: ssharkins at bellsouth.net (Susan Harkins)
Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2005 14:28:24 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Normalizing issue
In-Reply-To: <NDEALJOEGMMPCDKIFGNFKECNDKAA.jimdettman@earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <20050623182824.MXAF11273.ibm67aec.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>

This is really getting much more complicated than I had planned. Now I have
to figure out how to deal with books versus articles. :) I thought about one
table that id's each publication as a book, article, etc. but I have one
problem. 

Books are usually in or out of print and that just doesn't apply for
articles. If I use a Yes/No for InPrint, then I've got records when an
inappropriate value -- No for magazines isn't really correct. I could use a
tri-state Yes/No I guess, and put Null to work, but ug... 

I can have a separate table that stores only book InPrint field. Or, I can
just use two different tables, one for books, for mags. 

Susan H.  

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Sent: Thursday, June 23, 2005 1:23 PM
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<<OK -- so you're relating the pen name table to the member name and then
relating the book table to the pen name table?>>

  Yes.

Jim.

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[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Susan Harkins
Sent: Thursday, June 23, 2005 1:13 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Normalizing issue


OK -- so you're relating the pen name table to the member name and then
relating the book table to the pen name table?

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim Dettman
Sent: Thursday, June 23, 2005 1:10 PM
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Slight correction:

tblMembers
MemberID
MemberName
DateCreated

tblPenNames
PenID
MemberID
PenName
DateCreated
Bio

tblBooks
BookID
PenID

Jim.

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Sent: Thursday, June 23, 2005 12:58 PM
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I've been considering this, this morning and I think what I've finally come
up with is this:

A member name -- that's their real name -- which will relate to their books.
I "think" I will add a pen name field to the book table -- if they wrote the
name under another name, it'll be there for searches, write-up's, whatever.
But, there's only going to be one pen name for each book, so I think it's
safe to do this. What do you think?

Susan H.

Since it's a writer's database, a separate *table* for pen names makes a lot
of sense.  Some writers use multiple pen names, so creating a pseudonym
table is the safest way to handle that and relate it to the writer's actual
name.  You could always use the real name as the default when filling in a
pen name.

Charlotte Foust


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Sent: Thursday, June 23, 2005 8:43 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Normalizing issue



If it isn't a middle or maiden name, what is it?  This gets even more tricky
with non-English names where "last" names can get really confusing.  I
generally provide a field for first, middle, and last name and make it the
responsibility of the user to enter the appropriate value in the appropriate
field.  The rules for parsing this can become so draconian, that it hardly
seems worth the work to do anything else.

========I'm in the middle of creating a database (pro bono) for a writer's
organization. It's a simple deal and will require little work
-- but this is already cropping up. These people will want their "writing"
names with their publications -- I'm thinking about just adding one more
field to store their "pen name" or whatever -- but then that becomes a
nuisance if their name and professional name are the same
-- gotta fill in both or allow for the blanks and go find the real name
-- such a nuisance --

I think at this point the middle name is the best solution --

Susan H.

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From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com  Thu Jun 23 13:28:45 2005
From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (John W. Colby)
Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2005 14:28:45 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Field Naming ( Just once I want to be ahead of JC )
In-Reply-To: <000201c5781c$d79f35c0$6401a8c0@laptop1>
Message-ID: <000301c57821$67019ce0$6c7aa8c0@ColbyM6805>

Absolutely should.  If a relationship exists, and you care about referential
integrity, the database engine should enforce it where possible.

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Sent: Thursday, June 23, 2005 1:56 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Field Naming ( Just once I want to be ahead of JC )


So does this mean in your world developers should or should not set
relationships in the relationship window.

Joe Hecht
Los Angeles CA

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The relationship window specifically.

John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com 

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Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2005 3:07 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
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John,

2) Relationship finding wizards are for wusses who don't create explicit
relationships (should be shot BTW).


I set relationships in either the relationship window or when I build
queries. Is that where you do it?

Have not seen a relationship finding Wizard?

Joe



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From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com  Thu Jun 23 13:30:17 2005
From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (John W. Colby)
Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2005 14:30:17 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Just Checking....
In-Reply-To: <200506231749.j5NHmxWK424108@pimout2-ext.prodigy.net>
Message-ID: <000401c57821$9ae3ee50$6c7aa8c0@ColbyM6805>

Yep, it sure does.  And of course the last developer to touch the db is
responsible for ALL problems.

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Sent: Thursday, June 23, 2005 1:49 PM
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Ee-gads, sounds like a lot of work ahead
:-( 

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Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2005 4:07 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
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On 22 Jun 2005 at 11:27, John W. Colby wrote:

> ROTFL.  Yea, I am getting old.
> 
> I am about to launch a field naming convention discussion so look out.
> ;-)
> 

I've just been asked to taske over some apps which were developed in-house
by a certain organisation in PNG.

Most of them have a table called "MAIN TABLE" which is, believe it or not
the main table used for storing data.

So far I have also come across fields named DATE and NAME  as well as
several fields with 40-50 character fieldnames comprising multiple words
separated by spaces.





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From reuben at gfconsultants.com  Thu Jun 23 13:44:17 2005
From: reuben at gfconsultants.com (Reuben Cummings)
Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2005 13:44:17 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Re: Normalizing issue
In-Reply-To: <6.2.1.2.2.20050623121942.05229bc8@pop3.highstream.net>
Message-ID: <JKEJKMLAODCACEAIJLPAOECNDDAA.reuben@gfconsultants.com>

I feel your pain Robert.

My son's full name is Tiller Ried James Bennet Louise Karnes Cummings (my
wife handled the naming while I wasn't at the hospital).  His SS card shows
Tiller RJBLK Cummings

My daughters are Delaney Annabelle Lee Cummings and Cali Clarabelle Rose
Cummings.

My wife likes long names although niether of us have more than one middle
name.

Reuben Cummings
GFC, LLC
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Stewart
Sent: Thursday, June 23, 2005 12:21 PM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [AccessD] Re: Normalizing issue


Or like my oldest son:

Robert Christopher Lawrence Stewart

2 middle names.

Not even the social security card shows both, it is C.L. on it.

At 11:36 AM 6/23/2005, you wrote:
>Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2005 08:53:27 -0700 (PDT)
>From: Lonnie Johnson <prodevmg at yahoo.com>
>Subject: RE: [AccessD] Normalizing issue
>To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
>         <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
>Message-ID: <20050623155327.10646.qmail at web33109.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
>Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
>
>Question:
>
>What do you do if they actually have a middle name and two last names?


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From artful at rogers.com  Thu Jun 23 14:25:49 2005
From: artful at rogers.com (Arthur Fuller)
Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2005 15:25:49 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Exit Access with an error code?
In-Reply-To: <JKEJKMLAODCACEAIJLPAOECNDDAA.reuben@gfconsultants.com>
Message-ID: <200506231925.j5NJPoR22825@databaseadvisors.com>

Can anyone tell me how to do this? Assume two cases, to be decided upon
examination of a recordset's single row return value. In case one, I want to
exit Access with an error code of [any value you like, other than zero]. In
case two, I don't want to exit until the user actually exits gracefully (in
which case the exit value would presumably be zero).

Suggestions?

TIA,
Arthur



From DWUTKA at marlow.com  Thu Jun 23 14:30:16 2005
From: DWUTKA at marlow.com (DWUTKA at marlow.com)
Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2005 14:30:16 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] FW: You have been unsubscribed from the Dba-exec ma
	ilinglist
Message-ID: <123701F54509D9119A4F00D0B747349016D776@main2.marlow.com>

Nope.

Drew

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mailinglist


Actually added you by mistake when I was cleaning up the bod list. I clicked
on the wrong shortcut was working in dba-exec and didn't notice right away.

Have you gotten the BOD meeting request via the dba-bod list yet? 

John

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Just curious...why was I unsubscribed?  Have I been a bad boy or something?

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From artful at rogers.com  Thu Jun 23 14:34:13 2005
From: artful at rogers.com (Arthur Fuller)
Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2005 15:34:13 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Re: Normalizing issue
In-Reply-To: <JKEJKMLAODCACEAIJLPAOECNDDAA.reuben@gfconsultants.com>
Message-ID: <200506231934.j5NJYDR24700@databaseadvisors.com>

You wimps don't know the meaning of long names! LOL. The record for longest
given name sequence belongs to a German immigrant to Philadelphia. His given
names were:

Adolph Blaine Charles David Earl Frederick Gerald Hubert 
Irvim John Kenneth Loyd Martin Nero Oliver Paul Quincy 
Randolph Sherman Thomas Uncas Victor Willian Xerxes Yancy 
Zeus

In case you missed it, he's got one name for each letter in the alphabet.
But his surname is even more hilarious:

Surname:
Wolfeschlegelsteinhausenbergerdorffvoralternwarengewissenhaf
tschaferswesenchafewarenwholgepflegeundsorgfaltigkeitbeschut
zenvonangereifenduchihrraubgiriigfeindewelchevorralternzwolf
tausendjahresvorandieerscheinenbanderersteerdeemmeshedrraums
chiffgebrauchlichtalsseinursprungvonkraftgestartseinlangefah
rthinzwischensternartigraumaufdersuchenachdiesternwelshegeha
btbewohnbarplanetenkreisedrehensichundwohinderneurassevanver
standigmenshlichkeittkonntevortpflanzenundsicherfreunanleben
slamdlichfreudeundruhemitnichteinfurchtvorangreifenvonandere
rintlligentgeschopfsvonhinzwischensternartigraum

Senior

It's gonna take one or more of our German listers to make sense out of this
surname! We German-challenged folk have no idea what this might mean.

Arthur


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Sent: June 23, 2005 2:44 PM
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Subject: RE: [AccessD] Re: Normalizing issue

I feel your pain Robert.

My son's full name is Tiller Ried James Bennet Louise Karnes Cummings (my
wife handled the naming while I wasn't at the hospital).  His SS card shows
Tiller RJBLK Cummings

My daughters are Delaney Annabelle Lee Cummings and Cali Clarabelle Rose
Cummings.

My wife likes long names although niether of us have more than one middle
name.

Reuben Cummings
GFC, LLC
phone: 812.523.1017
email: reuben at gfconsultants.com


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Sent: Thursday, June 23, 2005 12:21 PM
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Or like my oldest son:

Robert Christopher Lawrence Stewart

2 middle names.

Not even the social security card shows both, it is C.L. on it.

At 11:36 AM 6/23/2005, you wrote:
>Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2005 08:53:27 -0700 (PDT)
>From: Lonnie Johnson <prodevmg at yahoo.com>
>Subject: RE: [AccessD] Normalizing issue
>To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
>         <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
>Message-ID: <20050623155327.10646.qmail at web33109.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
>Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
>
>Question:
>
>What do you do if they actually have a middle name and two last names?


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From jimdettman at earthlink.net  Thu Jun 23 14:35:16 2005
From: jimdettman at earthlink.net (Jim Dettman)
Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2005 15:35:16 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Normalizing issue
In-Reply-To: <20050623182824.MXAF11273.ibm67aec.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>
Message-ID: <NDEALJOEGMMPCDKIFGNFKEDIDKAA.jimdettman@earthlink.net>

Susan,

 <<Books are usually in or out of print and that just doesn't apply for
articles. If I use a Yes/No for InPrint, then I've got records when an
inappropriate value -- No for magazines isn't really correct. I could use a
tri-state Yes/No I guess, and put Null to work, but ug... >>

  Not understanding the publishing business, I'm not sure I fully understand
what the problem is.

  But I guess it depends on how hung up you are on following rules.  You can
go the simple route and have one table for publications and include the
field InPrint and inherent in the interface is that fact that it only
applies to books (ie. you hide the control if it's not a book).  That's
basically a no-no as you said, as all fields really don't pertain to what
your supposed to be describing (a publication).

  The next step would be to have a separate table for each publication type;
one for books, one for mag's, video's etc.  Then each table only contains
the fields that pertain to the type of thing your trying to describe.

  Last you can go all out and describe the object, it's attributes, and the
values for those attributes.  For example:

tblPublicationTypes - List of all possible publication types (book, mag,
article, documentary video, etc).
PubTypeID
Description

tblAttributes - List of all possible attributes that any publication might
have.
AttribID - PK
Description

tblPubTypeAttributes - One record for each PubType / Attribute Combination -
So this is a list of attributes for a specific type of publication.
PubTypeAttribID - PK
PubTypeID - FK-A
AttribID - FK-B

tblPublications - one record per publication
PubID - PK
PubTypeID - FK
Name

tblPublicationsValues - One record for each attribute for the type of
publication that holds the actual value.
PubValueID - PK
PubID - FK-A
PubTypeAttribID - FK-B
Value


  An example:

tblPublicationTypes

PubTypeID       Description
1               Book
2               Mag
3               Video


tblAttributes

AttribID  Description
1         Title
2         Date Created
3         In Print
4         Media format
5         Author
6         Publication Date
7         Director


tblPubTypeAttributes

PubTypeAttribID     PubTypeID      AttribID
1                      1              1
2                      1              2
3                      1              3
4                      1              5
5                      1              6
6                      2              1
7                      2              2
8                      2              5
9                      2              6
10                     3              1
11                     3              2
12                     3              4
13                     3              6
14                     3              7


  So books have the attributes: Title, Date Created, In Print, Author, and
publication date.
  Mag has: Title, Date Created, Author, Publication date.
  Video has: Title, Date Created, Media Format, Publication Date, and
Director.


tblPublications - one record per publication
PubID          PubTypeID
1                 1
2                 1
3                 2
4                 3
5                 3

  So we have 2 books, 1 mag, and 2 videos listed.

tblPublicationsValues
PubValueID        PubID        PubTypeAttribID                     Value
1                   1                1                  "Jim's First Access
Book"
2                   1                2                  06/15/05
3                   1                3                  Yes
4                   1                4                  "JND"
5                   1                5                  06/18/05
6                   2                1                  "Jim's Second Access
Book"
7                   2                2                  06/19/05
8                   2                3                  No
9                   2                4                  "JND"
10                  2                5                  <NULL>
11                  3                6                  "Spy vs Spy"
12                  3                7                  02/01/05
13                  3                8                  "JRD"
14                  3                9                  02/10/05
15                  4                10                 "eXtreme Skiing"
16                  4                11                 01/01/00
17                  4                12                 "AVI"
18                  4                13                 01/01/01
19                  4                14                 "Spielberg"
20                  5                10                 "Sky Diving For
beginers"
21                  5                11                 01/01/99
22                  5                12                 "35 mm"
23                  5                13                 01/01/00
24                  5                14                 "JK Rowling"


  Whew...think I got all that right.  This design is the ultimate in
flexability, but certainly the most complex to implement.  Without any
changes in programming, you can add a new type of "thing" to the database
without breaking any normalization rules.  Then add instances of those
things and assign values to the attributes of them.

  Two notes:

1. Some might also add to the attribute table or as a seperate table a range
of possible values that an attribute can have.
2. They layout above is for someone who believes in surrogate keys.  I
wouldn't do it that way myself, but simplify a bit.

Jim.



-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Susan Harkins
Sent: Thursday, June 23, 2005 2:28 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Normalizing issue


This is really getting much more complicated than I had planned. Now I have
to figure out how to deal with books versus articles. :) I thought about one
table that id's each publication as a book, article, etc. but I have one
problem.

Books are usually in or out of print and that just doesn't apply for
articles. If I use a Yes/No for InPrint, then I've got records when an
inappropriate value -- No for magazines isn't really correct. I could use a
tri-state Yes/No I guess, and put Null to work, but ug...

I can have a separate table that stores only book InPrint field. Or, I can
just use two different tables, one for books, for mags.

Susan H.

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Sent: Thursday, June 23, 2005 1:23 PM
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<<OK -- so you're relating the pen name table to the member name and then
relating the book table to the pen name table?>>

  Yes.

Jim.

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Sent: Thursday, June 23, 2005 1:13 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Normalizing issue


OK -- so you're relating the pen name table to the member name and then
relating the book table to the pen name table?

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[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim Dettman
Sent: Thursday, June 23, 2005 1:10 PM
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Subject: RE: [AccessD] Normalizing issue

Slight correction:

tblMembers
MemberID
MemberName
DateCreated

tblPenNames
PenID
MemberID
PenName
DateCreated
Bio

tblBooks
BookID
PenID

Jim.

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Sent: Thursday, June 23, 2005 12:58 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Normalizing issue


I've been considering this, this morning and I think what I've finally come
up with is this:

A member name -- that's their real name -- which will relate to their books.
I "think" I will add a pen name field to the book table -- if they wrote the
name under another name, it'll be there for searches, write-up's, whatever.
But, there's only going to be one pen name for each book, so I think it's
safe to do this. What do you think?

Susan H.

Since it's a writer's database, a separate *table* for pen names makes a lot
of sense.  Some writers use multiple pen names, so creating a pseudonym
table is the safest way to handle that and relate it to the writer's actual
name.  You could always use the real name as the default when filling in a
pen name.

Charlotte Foust


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Sent: Thursday, June 23, 2005 8:43 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Normalizing issue



If it isn't a middle or maiden name, what is it?  This gets even more tricky
with non-English names where "last" names can get really confusing.  I
generally provide a field for first, middle, and last name and make it the
responsibility of the user to enter the appropriate value in the appropriate
field.  The rules for parsing this can become so draconian, that it hardly
seems worth the work to do anything else.

========I'm in the middle of creating a database (pro bono) for a writer's
organization. It's a simple deal and will require little work
-- but this is already cropping up. These people will want their "writing"
names with their publications -- I'm thinking about just adding one more
field to store their "pen name" or whatever -- but then that becomes a
nuisance if their name and professional name are the same
-- gotta fill in both or allow for the blanks and go find the real name
-- such a nuisance --

I think at this point the middle name is the best solution --

Susan H.

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From john at winhaven.net  Thu Jun 23 14:37:19 2005
From: john at winhaven.net (John Bartow)
Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2005 14:37:19 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] FW: You have been unsubscribed from the Dba-exec
	mailinglist
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Message-ID: <200506231937.j5NJbJkt090452@pimout3-ext.prodigy.net>

OK, I'll unsub you from dba-bod and resub you. You should get a welcome and
then shortly after you should get the invite to the meeting.

John 

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Nope.

Drew

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Sent: Thursday, June 23, 2005 12:49 PM
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Actually added you by mistake when I was cleaning up the bod list. I clicked
on the wrong shortcut was working in dba-exec and didn't notice right away.

Have you gotten the BOD meeting request via the dba-bod list yet? 

John

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Just curious...why was I unsubscribed?  Have I been a bad boy or something?

Drew

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From dmcafee at pacbell.net  Thu Jun 23 14:38:57 2005
From: dmcafee at pacbell.net (dmcafee at pacbell.net)
Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2005 12:38:57 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Re: Normalizing issue
In-Reply-To: <200506231934.j5NJYDR24700@databaseadvisors.com>
Message-ID: <KDEHKEMIOHGKCDHLPPLKOEMMFFAA.dmcafee@pacbell.net>

I wonder if they nicknamed him "Alfie", short for alphabet ;)

D

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[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Arthur Fuller
Sent: Thursday, June 23, 2005 12:34 PM
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Subject: RE: [AccessD] Re: Normalizing issue


You wimps don't know the meaning of long names! LOL. The record for longest
given name sequence belongs to a German immigrant to Philadelphia. His given
names were:

Adolph Blaine Charles David Earl Frederick Gerald Hubert
Irvim John Kenneth Loyd Martin Nero Oliver Paul Quincy
Randolph Sherman Thomas Uncas Victor Willian Xerxes Yancy
Zeus

In case you missed it, he's got one name for each letter in the alphabet.
But his surname is even more hilarious:

Surname:
Wolfeschlegelsteinhausenbergerdorffvoralternwarengewissenhaf
tschaferswesenchafewarenwholgepflegeundsorgfaltigkeitbeschut
zenvonangereifenduchihrraubgiriigfeindewelchevorralternzwolf
tausendjahresvorandieerscheinenbanderersteerdeemmeshedrraums
chiffgebrauchlichtalsseinursprungvonkraftgestartseinlangefah
rthinzwischensternartigraumaufdersuchenachdiesternwelshegeha
btbewohnbarplanetenkreisedrehensichundwohinderneurassevanver
standigmenshlichkeittkonntevortpflanzenundsicherfreunanleben
slamdlichfreudeundruhemitnichteinfurchtvorangreifenvonandere
rintlligentgeschopfsvonhinzwischensternartigraum

Senior

It's gonna take one or more of our German listers to make sense out of this
surname! We German-challenged folk have no idea what this might mean.

Arthur


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Sent: June 23, 2005 2:44 PM
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Subject: RE: [AccessD] Re: Normalizing issue

I feel your pain Robert.

My son's full name is Tiller Ried James Bennet Louise Karnes Cummings (my
wife handled the naming while I wasn't at the hospital).  His SS card shows
Tiller RJBLK Cummings

My daughters are Delaney Annabelle Lee Cummings and Cali Clarabelle Rose
Cummings.

My wife likes long names although niether of us have more than one middle
name.

Reuben Cummings
GFC, LLC
phone: 812.523.1017
email: reuben at gfconsultants.com


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Stewart
Sent: Thursday, June 23, 2005 12:21 PM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [AccessD] Re: Normalizing issue


Or like my oldest son:

Robert Christopher Lawrence Stewart

2 middle names.

Not even the social security card shows both, it is C.L. on it.

At 11:36 AM 6/23/2005, you wrote:
>Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2005 08:53:27 -0700 (PDT)
>From: Lonnie Johnson <prodevmg at yahoo.com>
>Subject: RE: [AccessD] Normalizing issue
>To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
>         <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
>Message-ID: <20050623155327.10646.qmail at web33109.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
>Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
>
>Question:
>
>What do you do if they actually have a middle name and two last names?


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From ssharkins at bellsouth.net  Thu Jun 23 14:38:59 2005
From: ssharkins at bellsouth.net (Susan Harkins)
Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2005 15:38:59 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Normalizing issue
In-Reply-To: <NDEALJOEGMMPCDKIFGNFKEDIDKAA.jimdettman@earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <20050623193900.PGRZ8050.ibm62aec.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>

Jim, I've already gone with separate tables because I got to thinking -- as
this things grow I may run into other data that doesn't fit both books and
magazines -- 

Right now, we're just kind of playing with this. But if it works well and is
flexible, a lot of different regions could end up using it -- so the more
problems I resolve now, the better. 

Susan H. 

Susan,

 <<Books are usually in or out of print and that just doesn't apply for
articles. If I use a Yes/No for InPrint, then I've got records when an
inappropriate value -- No for magazines isn't really correct. I could use a
tri-state Yes/No I guess, and put Null to work, but ug... >>

  Not understanding the publishing business, I'm not sure I fully understand
what the problem is.

  But I guess it depends on how hung up you are on following rules.  You can
go the simple route and have one table for publications and include the
field InPrint and inherent in the interface is that fact that it only
applies to books (ie. you hide the control if it's not a book).  That's
basically a no-no as you said, as all fields really don't pertain to what
your supposed to be describing (a publication).

  The next step would be to have a separate table for each publication type;
one for books, one for mag's, video's etc.  Then each table only contains
the fields that pertain to the type of thing your trying to describe.

  Last you can go all out and describe the object, it's attributes, and the
values for those attributes.  For example:

tblPublicationTypes - List of all possible publication types (book, mag,
article, documentary video, etc).
PubTypeID
Description

tblAttributes - List of all possible attributes that any publication might
have.
AttribID - PK
Description

tblPubTypeAttributes - One record for each PubType / Attribute Combination -
So this is a list of attributes for a specific type of publication.
PubTypeAttribID - PK
PubTypeID - FK-A
AttribID - FK-B

tblPublications - one record per publication PubID - PK PubTypeID - FK Name

tblPublicationsValues - One record for each attribute for the type of
publication that holds the actual value.
PubValueID - PK
PubID - FK-A
PubTypeAttribID - FK-B
Value


  An example:

tblPublicationTypes

PubTypeID       Description
1               Book
2               Mag
3               Video


tblAttributes

AttribID  Description
1         Title
2         Date Created
3         In Print
4         Media format
5         Author
6         Publication Date
7         Director


tblPubTypeAttributes

PubTypeAttribID     PubTypeID      AttribID
1                      1              1
2                      1              2
3                      1              3
4                      1              5
5                      1              6
6                      2              1
7                      2              2
8                      2              5
9                      2              6
10                     3              1
11                     3              2
12                     3              4
13                     3              6
14                     3              7


  So books have the attributes: Title, Date Created, In Print, Author, and
publication date.
  Mag has: Title, Date Created, Author, Publication date.
  Video has: Title, Date Created, Media Format, Publication Date, and
Director.


tblPublications - one record per publication
PubID          PubTypeID
1                 1
2                 1
3                 2
4                 3
5                 3

  So we have 2 books, 1 mag, and 2 videos listed.

tblPublicationsValues
PubValueID        PubID        PubTypeAttribID                     Value
1                   1                1                  "Jim's First Access
Book"
2                   1                2                  06/15/05
3                   1                3                  Yes
4                   1                4                  "JND"
5                   1                5                  06/18/05
6                   2                1                  "Jim's Second Access
Book"
7                   2                2                  06/19/05
8                   2                3                  No
9                   2                4                  "JND"
10                  2                5                  <NULL>
11                  3                6                  "Spy vs Spy"
12                  3                7                  02/01/05
13                  3                8                  "JRD"
14                  3                9                  02/10/05
15                  4                10                 "eXtreme Skiing"
16                  4                11                 01/01/00
17                  4                12                 "AVI"
18                  4                13                 01/01/01
19                  4                14                 "Spielberg"
20                  5                10                 "Sky Diving For
beginers"
21                  5                11                 01/01/99
22                  5                12                 "35 mm"
23                  5                13                 01/01/00
24                  5                14                 "JK Rowling"


  Whew...think I got all that right.  This design is the ultimate in
flexability, but certainly the most complex to implement.  Without any
changes in programming, you can add a new type of "thing" to the database
without breaking any normalization rules.  Then add instances of those
things and assign values to the attributes of them.

  Two notes:

1. Some might also add to the attribute table or as a seperate table a range
of possible values that an attribute can have.
2. They layout above is for someone who believes in surrogate keys.  I
wouldn't do it that way myself, but simplify a bit.

Jim.



-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Susan Harkins
Sent: Thursday, June 23, 2005 2:28 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Normalizing issue


This is really getting much more complicated than I had planned. Now I have
to figure out how to deal with books versus articles. :) I thought about one
table that id's each publication as a book, article, etc. but I have one
problem.

Books are usually in or out of print and that just doesn't apply for
articles. If I use a Yes/No for InPrint, then I've got records when an
inappropriate value -- No for magazines isn't really correct. I could use a
tri-state Yes/No I guess, and put Null to work, but ug...

I can have a separate table that stores only book InPrint field. Or, I can
just use two different tables, one for books, for mags.

Susan H.

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim Dettman
Sent: Thursday, June 23, 2005 1:23 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Normalizing issue

<<OK -- so you're relating the pen name table to the member name and then
relating the book table to the pen name table?>>

  Yes.

Jim.

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Susan Harkins
Sent: Thursday, June 23, 2005 1:13 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Normalizing issue


OK -- so you're relating the pen name table to the member name and then
relating the book table to the pen name table?

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim Dettman
Sent: Thursday, June 23, 2005 1:10 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Normalizing issue

Slight correction:

tblMembers
MemberID
MemberName
DateCreated

tblPenNames
PenID
MemberID
PenName
DateCreated
Bio

tblBooks
BookID
PenID

Jim.

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Susan Harkins
Sent: Thursday, June 23, 2005 12:58 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Normalizing issue


I've been considering this, this morning and I think what I've finally come
up with is this:

A member name -- that's their real name -- which will relate to their books.
I "think" I will add a pen name field to the book table -- if they wrote the
name under another name, it'll be there for searches, write-up's, whatever.
But, there's only going to be one pen name for each book, so I think it's
safe to do this. What do you think?

Susan H.

Since it's a writer's database, a separate *table* for pen names makes a lot
of sense.  Some writers use multiple pen names, so creating a pseudonym
table is the safest way to handle that and relate it to the writer's actual
name.  You could always use the real name as the default when filling in a
pen name.

Charlotte Foust


-----Original Message-----
From: Susan Harkins [mailto:ssharkins at bellsouth.net]
Sent: Thursday, June 23, 2005 8:43 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Normalizing issue



If it isn't a middle or maiden name, what is it?  This gets even more tricky
with non-English names where "last" names can get really confusing.  I
generally provide a field for first, middle, and last name and make it the
responsibility of the user to enter the appropriate value in the appropriate
field.  The rules for parsing this can become so draconian, that it hardly
seems worth the work to do anything else.

========I'm in the middle of creating a database (pro bono) for a writer's
organization. It's a simple deal and will require little work
-- but this is already cropping up. These people will want their "writing"
names with their publications -- I'm thinking about just adding one more
field to store their "pen name" or whatever -- but then that becomes a
nuisance if their name and professional name are the same
-- gotta fill in both or allow for the blanks and go find the real name
-- such a nuisance --

I think at this point the middle name is the best solution --

Susan H.

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From DWUTKA at marlow.com  Thu Jun 23 14:36:39 2005
From: DWUTKA at marlow.com (DWUTKA at marlow.com)
Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2005 14:36:39 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] FW: You have been unsubscribed from the Dba-exec ma
	ilinglist
Message-ID: <123701F54509D9119A4F00D0B747349016D778@main2.marlow.com>

No I got an unscribed from the BOD list email.

Really...I didn't mean it...whatever I said! <grin>

Drew

-----Original Message-----
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Sent: Thursday, June 23, 2005 12:49 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] FW: You have been unsubscribed from the Dba-exec
mailinglist


Actually added you by mistake when I was cleaning up the bod list. I clicked
on the wrong shortcut was working in dba-exec and didn't notice right away.

Have you gotten the BOD meeting request via the dba-bod list yet? 

John

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Subject: [AccessD] FW: You have been unsubscribed from the Dba-exec
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Just curious...why was I unsubscribed?  Have I been a bad boy or something?

Drew

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From rl_stewart at highstream.net  Thu Jun 23 14:39:24 2005
From: rl_stewart at highstream.net (Robert L. Stewart)
Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2005 14:39:24 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Re: Normalizing issue
In-Reply-To: <200506231828.j5NISbR08908@databaseadvisors.com>
References: <200506231828.j5NISbR08908@databaseadvisors.com>
Message-ID: <6.2.1.2.2.20050623143607.05596ee0@pop3.highstream.net>

Susan,

You can incorporate the first, middle, and last name model for the pen name 
also.  Actually, that was the way I had it in the first alias table that I 
sent out.  I compressed it in the last one.

And, LIKE "*TWAIN*" would find all instances of it.  Just easier if you are 
looking in the last name field.

Robert

At 01:28 PM 6/23/2005, you wrote:
>Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2005 13:55:45 -0400
>From: "Susan Harkins" <ssharkins at bellsouth.net>
>Subject: RE: [AccessD] Re: Normalizing issue
>To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'"
>         <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
>Message-ID: <20050623175546.WABL7767.ibm60aec.bellsouth.net at SUSANONE>
>Content-Type: text/plain;       charset="us-ascii"
>
>The edit it as needed for the special cases.  This model also incorporates
>an alias table to hold the solution to what Susan needs for her pen names.
>All she would need to do is add a table to relate the pen names to the
>publisher for the articles being published.
>
>===========The alias is all  one field though -- right? I don't think that
>would work for pen names as I can see a need for searching on pen name
>(think Twain) rather than member name -- and a search for Twain isn't going
>to work if the field is "Mark Twain"
>
>Susan H.




From ssharkins at bellsouth.net  Thu Jun 23 14:44:54 2005
From: ssharkins at bellsouth.net (Susan Harkins)
Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2005 15:44:54 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Re: Normalizing issue
In-Reply-To: <KDEHKEMIOHGKCDHLPPLKOEMMFFAA.dmcafee@pacbell.net>
Message-ID: <20050623194454.PJJJ8050.ibm62aec.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>

I just think Arthur's up to old tricks again... ;) 

Susan H. 

I wonder if they nicknamed him "Alfie", short for alphabet ;)

D


Surname:
Wolfeschlegelsteinhausenbergerdorffvoralternwarengewissenhaf
tschaferswesenchafewarenwholgepflegeundsorgfaltigkeitbeschut



From rl_stewart at highstream.net  Thu Jun 23 14:46:52 2005
From: rl_stewart at highstream.net (Robert L. Stewart)
Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2005 14:46:52 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Re: Normalizing issue
In-Reply-To: <200506231828.j5NISbR08908@databaseadvisors.com>
References: <200506231828.j5NISbR08908@databaseadvisors.com>
Message-ID: <6.2.1.2.2.20050623144137.05532ea8@pop3.highstream.net>

Susan,

tblPublication
PublicationID
PublicationType   (Book, Article, White Paper, etc.)
PublicationTitle
AuthorAliasID

Then you can add any other information appropriate for the publication, 
like InPrintFlag, CopyrightDate, PublisherID, etc.

Over design!!!!  You can always back off an over designed system.  It is 
much harder to fix an under designed system.

Robert

At 01:28 PM 6/23/2005, you wrote:
>Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2005 14:28:24 -0400
>From: "Susan Harkins" <ssharkins at bellsouth.net>
>Subject: RE: [AccessD] Normalizing issue
>To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'"
>         <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
>Message-ID: <20050623182824.MXAF11273.ibm67aec.bellsouth.net at SUSANONE>
>Content-Type: text/plain;       charset="us-ascii"
>
>This is really getting much more complicated than I had planned. Now I have
>to figure out how to deal with books versus articles. :) I thought about one
>table that id's each publication as a book, article, etc. but I have one
>problem.
>
>Books are usually in or out of print and that just doesn't apply for
>articles. If I use a Yes/No for InPrint, then I've got records when an
>inappropriate value -- No for magazines isn't really correct. I could use a
>tri-state Yes/No I guess, and put Null to work, but ug...
>
>I can have a separate table that stores only book InPrint field. Or, I can
>just use two different tables, one for books, for mags.
>
>Susan H.




From stuart at lexacorp.com.pg  Thu Jun 23 17:30:34 2005
From: stuart at lexacorp.com.pg (Stuart McLachlan)
Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2005 08:30:34 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] Re: Normalizing issue
In-Reply-To: <20050623194454.PJJJ8050.ibm62aec.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>
References: <KDEHKEMIOHGKCDHLPPLKOEMMFFAA.dmcafee@pacbell.net>
Message-ID: <42BBC4AA.3771.30398AF@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>

On 23 Jun 2005 at 15:44, Susan Harkins wrote:

> I just think Arthur's up to old tricks again... ;) 
> 

Nope, see http://www.everything2.com/index.pl?node_id=1534419
-- 
Stuart




From bchacc at san.rr.com  Thu Jun 23 17:31:00 2005
From: bchacc at san.rr.com (Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software)
Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2005 15:31:00 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Turn Off Help Box in Access 2003
References: <008701c57810$2cf39d20$6701a8c0@HAL9004> <42BAFC1B.3070008@shaw.ca>
Message-ID: <020f01c57843$3bf3c2e0$6701a8c0@HAL9004>

Marty:

Didn't work.  The help box ( which is a new feature in A2K3) still shows.

Rocky

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From: "MartyConnelly" <martyconnelly at shaw.ca>
To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving" 
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Thursday, June 23, 2005 11:14 AM
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Turn Off Help Box in Access 2003


> What's This? This property of the form  can only be turned on by default 
> to Yes when MinMax property set to No
> So just set Form property What's This to No.
>
> Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software wrote:
>
>>Dear List:
>>In access 2003 up in the right corner by the maximize, minimize and close 
>>buttons there's a help box.  Does anyone know the syntax for turning this 
>>thing off through code?
>>
>>MTIA
>>
>>Rocky Smolin
>>Beach Access Software
>>http://www.e-z-mrp.com
>>858-259-4334
>>
>
> -- 
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> Canada
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From jmhecht at earthlink.net  Thu Jun 23 19:51:30 2005
From: jmhecht at earthlink.net (Joe Hecht)
Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2005 17:51:30 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Normalizing issue
In-Reply-To: <20050623182824.MXAF11273.ibm67aec.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>
Message-ID: <000401c57856$dcdfc420$6401a8c0@laptop1>

Don't all projects.

Joe Hecht
Los Angeles CA


This is really getting much more complicated than I had planned. 



From martyconnelly at shaw.ca  Thu Jun 23 21:26:35 2005
From: martyconnelly at shaw.ca (MartyConnelly)
Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2005 19:26:35 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Turn Off Help Box in Access 2003
References: <008701c57810$2cf39d20$6701a8c0@HAL9004> <42BAFC1B.3070008@shaw.ca>
	<020f01c57843$3bf3c2e0$6701a8c0@HAL9004>
Message-ID: <42BB6F5B.8000501@shaw.ca>

Works for me in Access 2003
Min Max Buttons     No
Whats this button    No
As a matter of fact on a basic virgin form it will squawk to you that it 
will not let you turn ON the
the Whats This Button to Yes unless MinMax is set to None.

Maybe a corrupted form or you have turned on an odd Application.SetOption




Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software wrote:

> Marty:
>
> Didn't work.  The help box ( which is a new feature in A2K3) still shows.
>
> Rocky
>
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "MartyConnelly" 
> <martyconnelly at shaw.ca>
> To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving" 
> <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
> Sent: Thursday, June 23, 2005 11:14 AM
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] Turn Off Help Box in Access 2003
>
>
>> What's This? This property of the form  can only be turned on by 
>> default to Yes when MinMax property set to No
>> So just set Form property What's This to No.
>>
>> Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software wrote:
>>
>>> Dear List:
>>> In access 2003 up in the right corner by the maximize, minimize and 
>>> close buttons there's a help box.  Does anyone know the syntax for 
>>> turning this thing off through code?
>>>
>>> MTIA
>>>
>>> Rocky Smolin
>>> Beach Access Software
>>> http://www.e-z-mrp.com
>>> 858-259-4334
>>>
>>
>> -- 
>> Marty Connelly
>> Victoria, B.C.
>> Canada
>>
>>
>>
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>>
>

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Canada





From bchacc at san.rr.com  Thu Jun 23 22:13:30 2005
From: bchacc at san.rr.com (Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software)
Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2005 20:13:30 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Turn Off Help Box in Access 2003
References: <008701c57810$2cf39d20$6701a8c0@HAL9004> <42BAFC1B.3070008@shaw.ca>
	<020f01c57843$3bf3c2e0$6701a8c0@HAL9004> <42BB6F5B.8000501@shaw.ca>
Message-ID: <02b401c5786a$b2d64320$6701a8c0@HAL9004>

MinMax Buttons None.  Close button no. What's this No.  Everything 
disappears but the help box.  And in the mde, the DoCmd.Maximize doesn't 
work.  So the form doesn't open maximized.  But it works for you.  I wonder 
what's going on.  I'm pretty sure the form isn't corrupted.

Rocky

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "MartyConnelly" <martyconnelly at shaw.ca>
To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving" 
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Thursday, June 23, 2005 7:26 PM
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Turn Off Help Box in Access 2003


> Works for me in Access 2003
> Min Max Buttons     No
> Whats this button    No
> As a matter of fact on a basic virgin form it will squawk to you that it 
> will not let you turn ON the
> the Whats This Button to Yes unless MinMax is set to None.
>
> Maybe a corrupted form or you have turned on an odd Application.SetOption
>
>
>
>
> Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software wrote:
>
>> Marty:
>>
>> Didn't work.  The help box ( which is a new feature in A2K3) still shows.
>>
>> Rocky
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "MartyConnelly" 
>> <martyconnelly at shaw.ca>
>> To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving" 
>> <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
>> Sent: Thursday, June 23, 2005 11:14 AM
>> Subject: Re: [AccessD] Turn Off Help Box in Access 2003
>>
>>
>>> What's This? This property of the form  can only be turned on by default 
>>> to Yes when MinMax property set to No
>>> So just set Form property What's This to No.
>>>
>>> Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software wrote:
>>>
>>>> Dear List:
>>>> In access 2003 up in the right corner by the maximize, minimize and 
>>>> close buttons there's a help box.  Does anyone know the syntax for 
>>>> turning this thing off through code?
>>>>
>>>> MTIA
>>>>
>>>> Rocky Smolin
>>>> Beach Access Software
>>>> http://www.e-z-mrp.com
>>>> 858-259-4334
>>>>
>>>
>>> -- 
>>> Marty Connelly
>>> Victoria, B.C.
>>> Canada
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> -- 
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>>>
>>
>
> -- 
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> Victoria, B.C.
> Canada
>
>
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From D.Dick at uws.edu.au  Thu Jun 23 23:00:12 2005
From: D.Dick at uws.edu.au (Darren Dick)
Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2005 14:00:12 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] Turn Off Help Box in Access 2003
Message-ID: <2FDE83AF1A69C84796CBD13788DDA88349ACDE@BONHAM.AD.UWS.EDU.AU>

Are you Guys talking about the same thing?
Marty seems to be talking about the What's this Button
Rocky is referring to the Small Search Field Just to the top right of
any open screen (A Unique 2003 Feature)
That's near the Close|Min/Max|Restore Buttons

DD
 

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- Beach Access Software
Sent: Friday, June 24, 2005 1:14 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Turn Off Help Box in Access 2003

MinMax Buttons None.  Close button no. What's this No.  Everything
disappears but the help box.  And in the mde, the DoCmd.Maximize doesn't
work.  So the form doesn't open maximized.  But it works for you.  I
wonder what's going on.  I'm pretty sure the form isn't corrupted.

Rocky

----- Original Message -----
From: "MartyConnelly" <martyconnelly at shaw.ca>
To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving" 
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Thursday, June 23, 2005 7:26 PM
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Turn Off Help Box in Access 2003


> Works for me in Access 2003
> Min Max Buttons     No
> Whats this button    No
> As a matter of fact on a basic virgin form it will squawk to you that
it 
> will not let you turn ON the
> the Whats This Button to Yes unless MinMax is set to None.
>
> Maybe a corrupted form or you have turned on an odd
Application.SetOption
>
>
>
>
> Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software wrote:
>
>> Marty:
>>
>> Didn't work.  The help box ( which is a new feature in A2K3) still
shows.
>>
>> Rocky
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "MartyConnelly" 
>> <martyconnelly at shaw.ca>
>> To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving" 
>> <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
>> Sent: Thursday, June 23, 2005 11:14 AM
>> Subject: Re: [AccessD] Turn Off Help Box in Access 2003
>>
>>
>>> What's This? This property of the form  can only be turned on by
default 
>>> to Yes when MinMax property set to No
>>> So just set Form property What's This to No.
>>>
>>> Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software wrote:
>>>
>>>> Dear List:
>>>> In access 2003 up in the right corner by the maximize, minimize and

>>>> close buttons there's a help box.  Does anyone know the syntax for 
>>>> turning this thing off through code?
>>>>
>>>> MTIA
>>>>
>>>> Rocky Smolin
>>>> Beach Access Software
>>>> http://www.e-z-mrp.com
>>>> 858-259-4334
>>>>
>>>
>>> -- 
>>> Marty Connelly
>>> Victoria, B.C.
>>> Canada
>>>
>>>
>>>
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>>
>
> -- 
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From bchacc at san.rr.com  Thu Jun 23 23:12:15 2005
From: bchacc at san.rr.com (Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software)
Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2005 21:12:15 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Turn Off Help Box in Access 2003
References: <2FDE83AF1A69C84796CBD13788DDA88349ACDE@BONHAM.AD.UWS.EDU.AU>
Message-ID: <030a01c57872$e7d380d0$6701a8c0@HAL9004>

The small Search Field in the upper right of the form that has the text 
'Type a question for help' is what I'm referring to.  I thought maybe the 
What's This had something to do with that.  Any idea how to rid myself of 
that pesky control, Darren?

Rocky

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Darren Dick" <D.Dick at uws.edu.au>
To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving" 
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Thursday, June 23, 2005 9:00 PM
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Turn Off Help Box in Access 2003


> Are you Guys talking about the same thing?
> Marty seems to be talking about the What's this Button
> Rocky is referring to the Small Search Field Just to the top right of
> any open screen (A Unique 2003 Feature)
> That's near the Close|Min/Max|Restore Buttons
>
> DD
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Rocky Smolin
> - Beach Access Software
> Sent: Friday, June 24, 2005 1:14 PM
> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] Turn Off Help Box in Access 2003
>
> MinMax Buttons None.  Close button no. What's this No.  Everything
> disappears but the help box.  And in the mde, the DoCmd.Maximize doesn't
> work.  So the form doesn't open maximized.  But it works for you.  I
> wonder what's going on.  I'm pretty sure the form isn't corrupted.
>
> Rocky
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "MartyConnelly" <martyconnelly at shaw.ca>
> To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving"
> <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
> Sent: Thursday, June 23, 2005 7:26 PM
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] Turn Off Help Box in Access 2003
>
>
>> Works for me in Access 2003
>> Min Max Buttons     No
>> Whats this button    No
>> As a matter of fact on a basic virgin form it will squawk to you that
> it
>> will not let you turn ON the
>> the Whats This Button to Yes unless MinMax is set to None.
>>
>> Maybe a corrupted form or you have turned on an odd
> Application.SetOption
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software wrote:
>>
>>> Marty:
>>>
>>> Didn't work.  The help box ( which is a new feature in A2K3) still
> shows.
>>>
>>> Rocky
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "MartyConnelly"
>>> <martyconnelly at shaw.ca>
>>> To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving"
>>> <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
>>> Sent: Thursday, June 23, 2005 11:14 AM
>>> Subject: Re: [AccessD] Turn Off Help Box in Access 2003
>>>
>>>
>>>> What's This? This property of the form  can only be turned on by
> default
>>>> to Yes when MinMax property set to No
>>>> So just set Form property What's This to No.
>>>>
>>>> Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Dear List:
>>>>> In access 2003 up in the right corner by the maximize, minimize and
>
>>>>> close buttons there's a help box.  Does anyone know the syntax for
>>>>> turning this thing off through code?
>>>>>
>>>>> MTIA
>>>>>
>>>>> Rocky Smolin
>>>>> Beach Access Software
>>>>> http://www.e-z-mrp.com
>>>>> 858-259-4334
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -- 
>>>> Marty Connelly
>>>> Victoria, B.C.
>>>> Canada
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -- 
>>>> AccessD mailing list
>>>> AccessD at databaseadvisors.com
>>>> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd
>>>> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com
>>>>
>>>
>>
>> -- 
>> Marty Connelly
>> Victoria, B.C.
>> Canada
>>
>>
>>
>> -- 
>> AccessD mailing list
>> AccessD at databaseadvisors.com
>> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd
>> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com
>>
>
> -- 
> AccessD mailing list
> AccessD at databaseadvisors.com
> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd
> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com
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> AccessD at databaseadvisors.com
> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd
> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com
> 



From martyconnelly at shaw.ca  Thu Jun 23 23:28:18 2005
From: martyconnelly at shaw.ca (MartyConnelly)
Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2005 21:28:18 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Turn Off Help Box in Access 2003
References: <008701c57810$2cf39d20$6701a8c0@HAL9004> <42BAFC1B.3070008@shaw.ca>
	<020f01c57843$3bf3c2e0$6701a8c0@HAL9004> <42BB6F5B.8000501@shaw.ca>
	<02b401c5786a$b2d64320$6701a8c0@HAL9004>
Message-ID: <42BB8BE2.5050804@shaw.ca>

Try toggling the Control Box property between yes and no, in some cases 
the X disappears like wise ? What is.
In some cases I have a greyed out X close form and no what is



Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software wrote:

> MinMax Buttons None.  Close button no. What's this No.  Everything 
> disappears but the help box.  And in the mde, the DoCmd.Maximize 
> doesn't work.  So the form doesn't open maximized.  But it works for 
> you.  I wonder what's going on.  I'm pretty sure the form isn't 
> corrupted.
>
> Rocky
>
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "MartyConnelly" 
> <martyconnelly at shaw.ca>
> To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving" 
> <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
> Sent: Thursday, June 23, 2005 7:26 PM
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] Turn Off Help Box in Access 2003
>
>
>> Works for me in Access 2003
>> Min Max Buttons     No
>> Whats this button    No
>> As a matter of fact on a basic virgin form it will squawk to you that 
>> it will not let you turn ON the
>> the Whats This Button to Yes unless MinMax is set to None.
>>
>> Maybe a corrupted form or you have turned on an odd 
>> Application.SetOption
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software wrote:
>>
>>> Marty:
>>>
>>> Didn't work.  The help box ( which is a new feature in A2K3) still 
>>> shows.
>>>
>>> Rocky
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "MartyConnelly" 
>>> <martyconnelly at shaw.ca>
>>> To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving" 
>>> <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
>>> Sent: Thursday, June 23, 2005 11:14 AM
>>> Subject: Re: [AccessD] Turn Off Help Box in Access 2003
>>>
>>>
>>>> What's This? This property of the form  can only be turned on by 
>>>> default to Yes when MinMax property set to No
>>>> So just set Form property What's This to No.
>>>>
>>>> Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Dear List:
>>>>> In access 2003 up in the right corner by the maximize, minimize 
>>>>> and close buttons there's a help box.  Does anyone know the syntax 
>>>>> for turning this thing off through code?
>>>>>
>>>>> MTIA
>>>>>
>>>>> Rocky Smolin
>>>>> Beach Access Software
>>>>> http://www.e-z-mrp.com
>>>>> 858-259-4334
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -- 
>>>> Marty Connelly
>>>> Victoria, B.C.
>>>> Canada
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -- 
>>>> AccessD mailing list
>>>> AccessD at databaseadvisors.com
>>>> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd
>>>> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com
>>>>
>>>
>>
>> -- 
>> Marty Connelly
>> Victoria, B.C.
>> Canada
>>
>>
>>
>> -- 
>> AccessD mailing list
>> AccessD at databaseadvisors.com
>> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd
>> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com
>>
>

-- 
Marty Connelly
Victoria, B.C.
Canada





From dejpolsys at hotmail.com  Thu Jun 23 23:42:55 2005
From: dejpolsys at hotmail.com (William Hindman)
Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2005 00:42:55 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Turn Off Help Box in Access 2003
References: <2FDE83AF1A69C84796CBD13788DDA88349ACDE@BONHAM.AD.UWS.EDU.AU>
	<030a01c57872$e7d380d0$6701a8c0@HAL9004>
Message-ID: <BAY103-DAV5688BFC5F0F20CD71C532AEED0@phx.gbl>

http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;283633

William


From bchacc at san.rr.com  Thu Jun 23 23:57:07 2005
From: bchacc at san.rr.com (Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software)
Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2005 21:57:07 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Turn Off Help Box in Access 2003
References: <2FDE83AF1A69C84796CBD13788DDA88349ACDE@BONHAM.AD.UWS.EDU.AU>
	<030a01c57872$e7d380d0$6701a8c0@HAL9004>
	<BAY103-DAV5688BFC5F0F20CD71C532AEED0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <033d01c57879$2c34c940$6701a8c0@HAL9004>

It's for 2002 and of course they changed the dialog boxes in 2003 so it 
doesn't follow the KB. :(

Rocky

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "William Hindman" <dejpolsys at hotmail.com>
To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving" 
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Thursday, June 23, 2005 9:42 PM
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Turn Off Help Box in Access 2003


> http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;283633
>
> William
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> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd
> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com
> 



From D.Dick at uws.edu.au  Fri Jun 24 00:28:32 2005
From: D.Dick at uws.edu.au (Darren Dick)
Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2005 15:28:32 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] Turn Off Help Box in Access 2003
Message-ID: <2FDE83AF1A69C84796CBD13788DDA88349AD6E@BONHAM.AD.UWS.EDU.AU>

Sorry - No - I have no solution for you

DD
 

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Rocky Smolin
- Beach Access Software
Sent: Friday, June 24, 2005 2:12 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Turn Off Help Box in Access 2003

The small Search Field in the upper right of the form that has the text
'Type a question for help' is what I'm referring to.  I thought maybe
the What's This had something to do with that.  Any idea how to rid
myself of that pesky control, Darren?

Rocky

----- Original Message -----
From: "Darren Dick" <D.Dick at uws.edu.au>
To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving" 
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Thursday, June 23, 2005 9:00 PM
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Turn Off Help Box in Access 2003


> Are you Guys talking about the same thing?
> Marty seems to be talking about the What's this Button
> Rocky is referring to the Small Search Field Just to the top right of
> any open screen (A Unique 2003 Feature)
> That's near the Close|Min/Max|Restore Buttons
>
> DD
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Rocky
Smolin
> - Beach Access Software
> Sent: Friday, June 24, 2005 1:14 PM
> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] Turn Off Help Box in Access 2003
>
> MinMax Buttons None.  Close button no. What's this No.  Everything
> disappears but the help box.  And in the mde, the DoCmd.Maximize
doesn't
> work.  So the form doesn't open maximized.  But it works for you.  I
> wonder what's going on.  I'm pretty sure the form isn't corrupted.
>
> Rocky
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "MartyConnelly" <martyconnelly at shaw.ca>
> To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving"
> <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
> Sent: Thursday, June 23, 2005 7:26 PM
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] Turn Off Help Box in Access 2003
>
>
>> Works for me in Access 2003
>> Min Max Buttons     No
>> Whats this button    No
>> As a matter of fact on a basic virgin form it will squawk to you that
> it
>> will not let you turn ON the
>> the Whats This Button to Yes unless MinMax is set to None.
>>
>> Maybe a corrupted form or you have turned on an odd
> Application.SetOption
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software wrote:
>>
>>> Marty:
>>>
>>> Didn't work.  The help box ( which is a new feature in A2K3) still
> shows.
>>>
>>> Rocky
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "MartyConnelly"
>>> <martyconnelly at shaw.ca>
>>> To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving"
>>> <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
>>> Sent: Thursday, June 23, 2005 11:14 AM
>>> Subject: Re: [AccessD] Turn Off Help Box in Access 2003
>>>
>>>
>>>> What's This? This property of the form  can only be turned on by
> default
>>>> to Yes when MinMax property set to No
>>>> So just set Form property What's This to No.
>>>>
>>>> Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Dear List:
>>>>> In access 2003 up in the right corner by the maximize, minimize
and
>
>>>>> close buttons there's a help box.  Does anyone know the syntax for
>>>>> turning this thing off through code?
>>>>>
>>>>> MTIA
>>>>>
>>>>> Rocky Smolin
>>>>> Beach Access Software
>>>>> http://www.e-z-mrp.com
>>>>> 858-259-4334
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -- 
>>>> Marty Connelly
>>>> Victoria, B.C.
>>>> Canada
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -- 
>>>> AccessD mailing list
>>>> AccessD at databaseadvisors.com
>>>> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd
>>>> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com
>>>>
>>>
>>
>> -- 
>> Marty Connelly
>> Victoria, B.C.
>> Canada
>>
>>
>>
>> -- 
>> AccessD mailing list
>> AccessD at databaseadvisors.com
>> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd
>> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com
>>
>
> -- 
> AccessD mailing list
> AccessD at databaseadvisors.com
> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd
> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com
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> 

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From stuart at lexacorp.com.pg  Fri Jun 24 01:25:23 2005
From: stuart at lexacorp.com.pg (Stuart McLachlan)
Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2005 16:25:23 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] Turn Off Help Box in Access 2003
In-Reply-To: <2FDE83AF1A69C84796CBD13788DDA88349AD6E@BONHAM.AD.UWS.EDU.AU>
Message-ID: <42BC33F3.6369.4B64BC4@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>

According to 
http://office.microsoft.com/en-us/assistance/HP030894201033.aspx

   1.  On the Tools menu, click Customize.
   2. On the menu bar, right-click the Type a question for help Question 
Box image box.
   3. Select or deselect Show Ask A Question Box to show or hide it.

Note  If you are hiding the Type a question for help box, it will still 
display until after you close the Customize dialog box.


According to:
http://www.pcreview.co.uk/forums/thread-1113279.php
>From code, you can set CommandBars.DisableAskAQuestionDropdown to True.

-- 
Stuart




From Bruce.Bruen at railcorp.nsw.gov.au  Fri Jun 24 01:38:08 2005
From: Bruce.Bruen at railcorp.nsw.gov.au (Bruen, Bruce)
Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2005 16:38:08 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] Setting ListIndex value (A97)
Message-ID: <F2BE8EAB3EA585418337B71BCE6F3BF304EBD4@msmet100.rail.nsw.gov.au>

hi guys,
 
I need to set the selected item of a combobox to a random value when
user clicks a commandbutton.  e.g. [Select random gift] button sets the
Gift: combo next to it to a random value (between 1 and listcount-1!)
 
Since listindex is readonly can anyone tell me how to do this?
 
tia
bruce
 
 
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From martyconnelly at shaw.ca  Fri Jun 24 01:53:38 2005
From: martyconnelly at shaw.ca (MartyConnelly)
Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2005 23:53:38 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Turn Off Help Box in Access 2003
References: <2FDE83AF1A69C84796CBD13788DDA88349ACDE@BONHAM.AD.UWS.EDU.AU>
Message-ID: <42BBADF2.5080706@shaw.ca>

Ah that Thingy Dingy! I thought it was the  ?  next to the max minimize 
icons on a form
not the Access menu command bar.
This will toggle it in code, found name in object browser then looked 
it  up in help.

Sub ToggleAskQuestionDropdown()
    With Application.CommandBars
        If .DisableAskAQuestionDropdown = True Then
            .DisableAskAQuestionDropdown = False
            Debug.Print "ask question turned on"
        Else
            .DisableAskAQuestionDropdown = True
             Debug.Print "ask question turned Off"
        End If
    End With
End Sub

Darren Dick wrote:

>Are you Guys talking about the same thing?
>Marty seems to be talking about the What's this Button
>Rocky is referring to the Small Search Field Just to the top right of
>any open screen (A Unique 2003 Feature)
>That's near the Close|Min/Max|Restore Buttons
>
>DD
> 
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Rocky Smolin
>- Beach Access Software
>Sent: Friday, June 24, 2005 1:14 PM
>To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
>Subject: Re: [AccessD] Turn Off Help Box in Access 2003
>
>MinMax Buttons None.  Close button no. What's this No.  Everything
>disappears but the help box.  And in the mde, the DoCmd.Maximize doesn't
>work.  So the form doesn't open maximized.  But it works for you.  I
>wonder what's going on.  I'm pretty sure the form isn't corrupted.
>
>Rocky
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "MartyConnelly" <martyconnelly at shaw.ca>
>To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving" 
><accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
>Sent: Thursday, June 23, 2005 7:26 PM
>Subject: Re: [AccessD] Turn Off Help Box in Access 2003
>
>
>  
>
>>Works for me in Access 2003
>>Min Max Buttons     No
>>Whats this button    No
>>As a matter of fact on a basic virgin form it will squawk to you that
>>    
>>
>it 
>  
>
>>will not let you turn ON the
>>the Whats This Button to Yes unless MinMax is set to None.
>>
>>Maybe a corrupted form or you have turned on an odd
>>    
>>
>Application.SetOption
>  
>
>>
>>
>>Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software wrote:
>>
>>    
>>
>>>Marty:
>>>
>>>Didn't work.  The help box ( which is a new feature in A2K3) still
>>>      
>>>
>shows.
>  
>
>>>Rocky
>>>
>>>----- Original Message ----- From: "MartyConnelly" 
>>><martyconnelly at shaw.ca>
>>>To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving" 
>>><accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
>>>Sent: Thursday, June 23, 2005 11:14 AM
>>>Subject: Re: [AccessD] Turn Off Help Box in Access 2003
>>>
>>>
>>>      
>>>
>>>>What's This? This property of the form  can only be turned on by
>>>>        
>>>>
>default 
>  
>
>>>>to Yes when MinMax property set to No
>>>>So just set Form property What's This to No.
>>>>
>>>>Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software wrote:
>>>>
>>>>        
>>>>
>>>>>Dear List:
>>>>>In access 2003 up in the right corner by the maximize, minimize and
>>>>>          
>>>>>
>
>  
>
>>>>>close buttons there's a help box.  Does anyone know the syntax for 
>>>>>turning this thing off through code?
>>>>>
>>>>>MTIA
>>>>>
>>>>>Rocky Smolin
>>>>>Beach Access Software
>>>>>http://www.e-z-mrp.com
>>>>>858-259-4334
>>>>>
>>>>>          
>>>>>
>>>>-- 
>>>>Marty Connelly
>>>>Victoria, B.C.
>>>>Canada
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>-- 
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>>>>AccessD at databaseadvisors.com
>>>>http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd
>>>>Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com
>>>>
>>>>        
>>>>
>>-- 
>>Marty Connelly
>>Victoria, B.C.
>>Canada
>>
>>
>>
>>-- 
>>AccessD mailing list
>>AccessD at databaseadvisors.com
>>http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd
>>Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com
>>
>>    
>>
>
>  
>

-- 
Marty Connelly
Victoria, B.C.
Canada





From dejpolsys at hotmail.com  Fri Jun 24 02:19:43 2005
From: dejpolsys at hotmail.com (William Hindman)
Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2005 03:19:43 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Turn Off Help Box in Access 2003
References: <2FDE83AF1A69C84796CBD13788DDA88349ACDE@BONHAM.AD.UWS.EDU.AU><030a01c57872$e7d380d0$6701a8c0@HAL9004><BAY103-DAV5688BFC5F0F20CD71C532AEED0@phx.gbl>
	<033d01c57879$2c34c940$6701a8c0@HAL9004>
Message-ID: <BAY103-DAV1B8C1495C66744B2EBA55AEED0@phx.gbl>

Rocky

I am using Access 2003 and in mine it works exactly as the KB article says 
..follow the directions exactly, its not intuitive ...after selecting 
Customize from the Tools Menu, ignore the Customize pane/tabs and Right 
Click directly on the "Ask a Question" box in the upper right of your Menu 
bar ...you will get (with the Customize form open) a "Show Ask a Question 
Box" checkbox ...clear it ...then Close the Customize form ...the "Ask a 
Question" box will be gone.

William
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software" <bchacc at san.rr.com>
To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving" 
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Friday, June 24, 2005 12:57 AM
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Turn Off Help Box in Access 2003


> It's for 2002 and of course they changed the dialog boxes in 2003 so it 
> doesn't follow the KB. :(
>
> Rocky
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "William Hindman" <dejpolsys at hotmail.com>
> To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving" 
> <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
> Sent: Thursday, June 23, 2005 9:42 PM
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] Turn Off Help Box in Access 2003
>
>
>> http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;283633
>>
>> William
>> -- 
>> AccessD mailing list
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>> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd
>> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com
>>
>
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> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd
> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com
> 


From dejpolsys at hotmail.com  Fri Jun 24 02:25:27 2005
From: dejpolsys at hotmail.com (William Hindman)
Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2005 03:25:27 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Turn Off Help Box in Access 2003
References: <2FDE83AF1A69C84796CBD13788DDA88349ACDE@BONHAM.AD.UWS.EDU.AU>
	<42BBADF2.5080706@shaw.ca>
Message-ID: <BAY103-DAV5E4F1C2A4E2B0617A4D6EAEED0@phx.gbl>

..do you ever do anything the easy way? :)))))
..just one more thing to add to my startup code :(

William

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "MartyConnelly" <martyconnelly at shaw.ca>
To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving" 
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Friday, June 24, 2005 2:53 AM
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Turn Off Help Box in Access 2003


> Ah that Thingy Dingy! I thought it was the  ?  next to the max minimize 
> icons on a form
> not the Access menu command bar.
> This will toggle it in code, found name in object browser then looked it 
> up in help.
>
> Sub ToggleAskQuestionDropdown()
>    With Application.CommandBars
>        If .DisableAskAQuestionDropdown = True Then
>            .DisableAskAQuestionDropdown = False
>            Debug.Print "ask question turned on"
>        Else
>            .DisableAskAQuestionDropdown = True
>             Debug.Print "ask question turned Off"
>        End If
>    End With
> End Sub
>
> Darren Dick wrote:
>
>>Are you Guys talking about the same thing?
>>Marty seems to be talking about the What's this Button
>>Rocky is referring to the Small Search Field Just to the top right of
>>any open screen (A Unique 2003 Feature)
>>That's near the Close|Min/Max|Restore Buttons
>>
>>DD
>>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>>[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Rocky Smolin
>>- Beach Access Software
>>Sent: Friday, June 24, 2005 1:14 PM
>>To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
>>Subject: Re: [AccessD] Turn Off Help Box in Access 2003
>>
>>MinMax Buttons None.  Close button no. What's this No.  Everything
>>disappears but the help box.  And in the mde, the DoCmd.Maximize doesn't
>>work.  So the form doesn't open maximized.  But it works for you.  I
>>wonder what's going on.  I'm pretty sure the form isn't corrupted.
>>
>>Rocky
>>
>>----- Original Message -----
>>From: "MartyConnelly" <martyconnelly at shaw.ca>
>>To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving" 
>><accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
>>Sent: Thursday, June 23, 2005 7:26 PM
>>Subject: Re: [AccessD] Turn Off Help Box in Access 2003
>>
>>
>>
>>>Works for me in Access 2003
>>>Min Max Buttons     No
>>>Whats this button    No
>>>As a matter of fact on a basic virgin form it will squawk to you that
>>>
>>it
>>>will not let you turn ON the
>>>the Whats This Button to Yes unless MinMax is set to None.
>>>
>>>Maybe a corrupted form or you have turned on an odd
>>>
>>Application.SetOption
>>
>>>
>>>
>>>Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>Marty:
>>>>
>>>>Didn't work.  The help box ( which is a new feature in A2K3) still
>>>>
>>shows.
>>
>>>>Rocky
>>>>
>>>>----- Original Message ----- From: "MartyConnelly" 
>>>><martyconnelly at shaw.ca>
>>>>To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving" 
>>>><accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
>>>>Sent: Thursday, June 23, 2005 11:14 AM
>>>>Subject: Re: [AccessD] Turn Off Help Box in Access 2003
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>What's This? This property of the form  can only be turned on by
>>>>>
>>default
>>>>>to Yes when MinMax property set to No
>>>>>So just set Form property What's This to No.
>>>>>
>>>>>Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>Dear List:
>>>>>>In access 2003 up in the right corner by the maximize, minimize and
>>>>>>
>>
>>
>>>>>>close buttons there's a help box.  Does anyone know the syntax for 
>>>>>>turning this thing off through code?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>MTIA
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Rocky Smolin
>>>>>>Beach Access Software
>>>>>>http://www.e-z-mrp.com
>>>>>>858-259-4334
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>-- 
>>>>>Marty Connelly
>>>>>Victoria, B.C.
>>>>>Canada
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From paul.hartland at fsmail.net  Fri Jun 24 03:24:31 2005
From: paul.hartland at fsmail.net (paul.hartland at fsmail.net)
Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2005 10:24:31 +0200 (CEST)
Subject: [AccessD] OT - Visual Basic 6.0 Data Environment
Message-ID: <18005413.1119601471708.JavaMail.www@wwinf3002>

To all,

Could anyone tell me if there is a way of sorting the commands in a Data Environment in Visual Basic 6.0.  I have taken over a project and there are around 200-300 commands in the one Data Environment and it takes ages to look for an individual one.

Could anyone please help with this, or even tell me if there's a fast way of searching a Data Environment to find a single query ?

Many thanks in advance for any help on this...

Paul Hartland

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From paul.hartland at isharp.co.uk  Fri Jun 24 04:54:27 2005
From: paul.hartland at isharp.co.uk (Paul Hartland (ISHARP))
Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2005 10:54:27 +0100
Subject: [AccessD] OT - Visual Basic 6.0 Data Environment
In-Reply-To: <18005413.1119601471708.JavaMail.www@wwinf3002>
Message-ID: <!~!UENERkVCMDkAAQACAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAC4AAAAAAAAAclrM129q6km1GlSfRwF8CgEAFKerAD79REu7GTojEo2iDgAAAAddkgAAEAAAAJueodiXERlNuVzBP6GEpfgBAAAAAA==@isharp.co.uk>

Lee,

Try the following link to edit car no's etc....

	\\AL-DB\Genesis$\GenesisSQLNew.exe

Paul 

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Sent: 24 June 2005 09:25
To: accessd
Subject: [AccessD] OT - Visual Basic 6.0 Data Environment

To all,

Could anyone tell me if there is a way of sorting the commands in a Data
Environment in Visual Basic 6.0.  I have taken over a project and there are
around 200-300 commands in the one Data Environment and it takes ages to
look for an individual one.

Could anyone please help with this, or even tell me if there's a fast way of
searching a Data Environment to find a single query ?

Many thanks in advance for any help on this...

Paul Hartland

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From paul.hartland at fsmail.net  Fri Jun 24 04:56:03 2005
From: paul.hartland at fsmail.net (paul.hartland at fsmail.net)
Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2005 11:56:03 +0200 (CEST)
Subject: [AccessD] OT - Visual Basic 6.0 Data Environment
Message-ID: <17297739.1119606963226.JavaMail.www@wwinf3201>

Sorry about last message, bit of brain confusion on my part





Message date : Jun 24 2005, 10:53 AM
>From : "Paul Hartland (ISHARP)" 
To : "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'" 
Copy to : 
Subject : RE: [AccessD] OT - Visual Basic 6.0 Data Environment
Lee,

Try the following link to edit car no's etc....

\\AL-DB\Genesis$\GenesisSQLNew.exe

Paul 

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Sent: 24 June 2005 09:25
To: accessd
Subject: [AccessD] OT - Visual Basic 6.0 Data Environment

To all,

Could anyone tell me if there is a way of sorting the commands in a Data
Environment in Visual Basic 6.0. I have taken over a project and there are
around 200-300 commands in the one Data Environment and it takes ages to
look for an individual one.

Could anyone please help with this, or even tell me if there's a fast way of
searching a Data Environment to find a single query ?

Many thanks in advance for any help on this...

Paul Hartland

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From HollisVJ at pgdp.usec.com  Fri Jun 24 06:40:22 2005
From: HollisVJ at pgdp.usec.com (Hollis,Virginia)
Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2005 06:40:22 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Import from FoxPro
Message-ID: <66ABA669023AE74B97746FD8E684392010175C@c2k3exchange.pgdp.corp.usec.com>

Ok, what is the secret to importing from FoxPro to Access 2003? It is
not in the list of types anymore. I looked through the KB articles but
still have problems.

 

I pulled the tables up in Visual FoxPro, saved them out as dBase IV
files, and then tried to import them into Access 2003.  I got the
message:

 

"Unexpected Error from External Database Driver (8961)"

 

I was able to create an ODBC datasource based on a FoxPro driver that
was already on my computer.  I tried to import the tables, and it looked
like it was going to do it, but then I got an error, "Decimal field
precision too small...

 

I'm running out of ideas.

 

Virginia

 



From rl_stewart at highstream.net  Fri Jun 24 07:48:26 2005
From: rl_stewart at highstream.net (Robert L. Stewart)
Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2005 07:48:26 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Re: Normalizing issue
In-Reply-To: <200506240412.j5O4CHR26385@databaseadvisors.com>
References: <200506240412.j5O4CHR26385@databaseadvisors.com>
Message-ID: <6.2.1.2.2.20050624071837.0374cc10@pop3.highstream.net>

Susan,

Then you have also painted yourself into a corner.  He gave you the 
ultimate in flexible design with the attribute definition system.  It 
allows you to define and classify attributes for any publication without 
the need for more tables later.  I was going to suggest it, but after 
reading his post, did not.

Jim was partially correct, but not totally.  When you are designing a 
database and you run into super-types and sub-types like what Susan has, 
you have to make a choice.  You can roll all of the sub-type attributes up 
into the super-type structure or, you can create them as separate 
tables.  The ultimate is the attribute schema that he proposed.

Super-Type             Sub-Types

tblPublication         tblPubBook          tblPubMagazine
PublicationID          PublicationID       PublicationID
Columns common to      Columns specific    Columns specific
all publications       to books            to magazines

In the super-type/sub-type schema, you would need to add a table for any 
new publication sub-type that did not completely share the attributes of an 
existing sub-type.

If you roll all the sub-type attributes into the super-type, you have to 
modify the super-type when you come across a new publication type that has 
different attributes you want to record.  You can solve the issue with 
seeing "book" attributes when entering a magazine by simply supplying the 
user with separate data entry screens.

If you use the attribute method, you never have to add a table. You can 
define new publication type and the attributes associated with them.  Your 
GUI can be a common GUI.  After selecting the publication type, your GUI 
can populate a temporary table with all the attributes for that publication 
type, giving the user the ability of entering the value for each attribute 
and then posting the results of that temporary table into the master table 
when data entry for the publication is complete.

With flexibility comes responsibility.  The idea for me is to shift the 
responsibility from me as the programmer to the user for the actual use of 
the program.  I no longer have to "think of everything" from the beginning, 
just show them how to use and report out of the system.

Susan, the following is NOT directed at you personally.

List, there are ways of making your designs totally flexible so your users 
never really need you to reprogram the solution again.  What they will need 
though is your guidance in how to use the solution you provide.  You also 
will need to become very proficient in GUI design to make them work 
well.  Anyone can slap together a table here and there and when something 
new comes up, add another table or even redesign the system because of all 
the tables added over time (like the one John was talking about).  A lot of 
us got into Access in the beginning because it was "easy."  But, good 
database design is not easy.  It takes a lot of thought and dedication to 
doing it correctly no matter what.

Robert


At 11:12 PM 6/23/2005, you wrote:
>Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2005 15:38:59 -0400
>From: "Susan Harkins" <ssharkins at bellsouth.net>
>Subject: RE: [AccessD] Normalizing issue
>To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'"
>         <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
>Message-ID: <20050623193900.PGRZ8050.ibm62aec.bellsouth.net at SUSANONE>
>Content-Type: text/plain;       charset="us-ascii"
>
>Jim, I've already gone with separate tables because I got to thinking -- as
>this things grow I may run into other data that doesn't fit both books and
>magazines --
>
>Right now, we're just kind of playing with this. But if it works well and is
>flexible, a lot of different regions could end up using it -- so the more
>problems I resolve now, the better.
>
>Susan H.




From bheid at appdevgrp.com  Fri Jun 24 08:29:40 2005
From: bheid at appdevgrp.com (Bobby Heid)
Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2005 09:29:40 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] SQL "Like" question.
Message-ID: <916187228923D311A6FE00A0CC3FAA30ABEC7B@ADGSERVER>

Hey,

I have a search screen for an app that has several combo boxes that when the
user clicks the Find button, it builds a SQL query based upon the criteria
that the users have selected.  The user can also use wild cards in the combo
boxes such as 'Carlton*'.  Since they can use wild cards, I use LIKE when
building the SQL statement.

I got an email from a user today asking why a given project search was
returning no records.  I looked at the data and this is what they were
searching for: 'Carlton [D]'.  I suspected the data so I removed the
brackets from around the 'D' and the query worked fine.

My question is, is the bracket a special character?  Are there other
characters that I need to watch out for?  I know about the wild card
characters '*', '?', and the '#' character.

Thanks,
Bobby



From john at winhaven.net  Fri Jun 24 09:51:35 2005
From: john at winhaven.net (John Bartow)
Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2005 09:51:35 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Re: Normalizing issue
In-Reply-To: <6.2.1.2.2.20050624071837.0374cc10@pop3.highstream.net>
Message-ID: <200506241451.j5OEpaXb311954@pimout4-ext.prodigy.net>

While also keeping in mind just how much you are being paid to do this
job...

I'm enjoying this thread but it needs to be said. Not everyone here has a
weekly paycheck being direct deposited on Friday.

Not saying you should do it "wrong" because you're not be paid enough to
make an application that can handle every friggin' possibility in the world.
But an independent developer needs to discuss the greater flexibility that
can be built into an app as the amount of time put into it increases (and
hence the cost). When being paid a set rate for a job you make your system
as flexible as possible AS the funding allows. This of course needs to be on
the table with the customer. A lot of customers will lay out what they want
an app to do and not want you to add this kind of flexibility into it
because they don't see the need. Then 2 years later just expect it to adapt
to their new situation.

I agree with you That "It takes a lot of thought and dedication to doing it
correctly". (My very first publicly sold application has worked for 6 years
now without need for updating.) But the "no matter what" part generally
applies to people working with a regular paycheck.


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Robert L. Stewart
Sent: Friday, June 24, 2005 7:48 AM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [AccessD] Re: Normalizing issue

Susan,

Then you have also painted yourself into a corner.  He gave you the ultimate
in flexible design with the attribute definition system.  It allows you to
define and classify attributes for any publication without the need for more
tables later.  I was going to suggest it, but after reading his post, did
not.

Jim was partially correct, but not totally.  When you are designing a
database and you run into super-types and sub-types like what Susan has, you
have to make a choice.  You can roll all of the sub-type attributes up into
the super-type structure or, you can create them as separate tables.  The
ultimate is the attribute schema that he proposed.

Super-Type             Sub-Types

tblPublication         tblPubBook          tblPubMagazine
PublicationID          PublicationID       PublicationID
Columns common to      Columns specific    Columns specific
all publications       to books            to magazines

In the super-type/sub-type schema, you would need to add a table for any new
publication sub-type that did not completely share the attributes of an
existing sub-type.

If you roll all the sub-type attributes into the super-type, you have to
modify the super-type when you come across a new publication type that has
different attributes you want to record.  You can solve the issue with
seeing "book" attributes when entering a magazine by simply supplying the
user with separate data entry screens.

If you use the attribute method, you never have to add a table. You can
define new publication type and the attributes associated with them.  Your
GUI can be a common GUI.  After selecting the publication type, your GUI can
populate a temporary table with all the attributes for that publication
type, giving the user the ability of entering the value for each attribute
and then posting the results of that temporary table into the master table
when data entry for the publication is complete.

With flexibility comes responsibility.  The idea for me is to shift the
responsibility from me as the programmer to the user for the actual use of
the program.  I no longer have to "think of everything" from the beginning,
just show them how to use and report out of the system.

Susan, the following is NOT directed at you personally.

List, there are ways of making your designs totally flexible so your users
never really need you to reprogram the solution again.  What they will need
though is your guidance in how to use the solution you provide.  You also
will need to become very proficient in GUI design to make them work well.
Anyone can slap together a table here and there and when something new comes
up, add another table or even redesign the system because of all the tables
added over time (like the one John was talking about).  A lot of us got into
Access in the beginning because it was "easy."  But, good database design is
not easy.  It takes a lot of thought and dedication to doing it correctly no
matter what.

Robert


At 11:12 PM 6/23/2005, you wrote:
>Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2005 15:38:59 -0400
>From: "Susan Harkins" <ssharkins at bellsouth.net>
>Subject: RE: [AccessD] Normalizing issue
>To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'"
>         <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
>Message-ID: <20050623193900.PGRZ8050.ibm62aec.bellsouth.net at SUSANONE>
>Content-Type: text/plain;       charset="us-ascii"
>
>Jim, I've already gone with separate tables because I got to thinking 
>-- as this things grow I may run into other data that doesn't fit both 
>books and magazines --
>
>Right now, we're just kind of playing with this. But if it works well 
>and is flexible, a lot of different regions could end up using it -- so 
>the more problems I resolve now, the better.
>
>Susan H.


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From cfoust at infostatsystems.com  Fri Jun 24 10:08:04 2005
From: cfoust at infostatsystems.com (Charlotte Foust)
Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2005 08:08:04 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Setting ListIndex value (A97)
Message-ID: <E61FC1D4B1918244905B113C680BEA86873AC6@infoserver01.infostat.local>


Me.Combo1 = Me.Combo1.ItemData(intRandom)

Charlotte Foust


-----Original Message-----
From: Bruen, Bruce [mailto:Bruce.Bruen at railcorp.nsw.gov.au] 
Sent: Thursday, June 23, 2005 11:38 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: [AccessD] Setting ListIndex value (A97)


hi guys,
 
I need to set the selected item of a combobox to a random value when
user clicks a commandbutton.  e.g. [Select random gift] button sets the
Gift: combo next to it to a random value (between 1 and listcount-1!)
 
Since listindex is readonly can anyone tell me how to do this?
 
tia
bruce
 
 
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From ssharkins at bellsouth.net  Fri Jun 24 10:11:11 2005
From: ssharkins at bellsouth.net (Susan Harkins)
Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2005 11:11:11 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Re: Normalizing issue
In-Reply-To: <200506241451.j5OEpaXb311954@pimout4-ext.prodigy.net>
Message-ID: <20050624151119.KABQ11957.ibm56aec.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>

This is pro bono -- no paycheck. :) I'm also doing it in my spare time -- as
I can -- so there's no time pressure. Ultimately, I will be the only user
unless other regions decide they like it too. Everything I do for me -- but
I do need to keep in mind that it might grow -- it's a consideration. 

I think I'm going with one table. Tomorrow, I may change my mind. :)

Susan H.  


While also keeping in mind just how much you are being paid to do this
job...




From prodevmg at yahoo.com  Fri Jun 24 10:17:00 2005
From: prodevmg at yahoo.com (Lonnie Johnson)
Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2005 08:17:00 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [AccessD] SQL "Like" question.
In-Reply-To: <916187228923D311A6FE00A0CC3FAA30ABEC7B@ADGSERVER>
Message-ID: <20050624151701.44779.qmail@web33112.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Yes, the brackets are reserved for enclosing table, query and field names. You may also want to look out for the tick mark or single quotation mark ('). This can trick your code to thinking you have jumped out of the SQL String. For example the name O'Hare.

Bobby Heid <bheid at appdevgrp.com> wrote:Hey,

I have a search screen for an app that has several combo boxes that when the
user clicks the Find button, it builds a SQL query based upon the criteria
that the users have selected. The user can also use wild cards in the combo
boxes such as 'Carlton*'. Since they can use wild cards, I use LIKE when
building the SQL statement.

I got an email from a user today asking why a given project search was
returning no records. I looked at the data and this is what they were
searching for: 'Carlton [D]'. I suspected the data so I removed the
brackets from around the 'D' and the query worked fine.

My question is, is the bracket a special character? Are there other
characters that I need to watch out for? I know about the wild card
characters '*', '?', and the '#' character.

Thanks,
Bobby

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From jimdettman at earthlink.net  Fri Jun 24 10:43:05 2005
From: jimdettman at earthlink.net (Jim Dettman)
Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2005 11:43:05 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Re: Normalizing issue
In-Reply-To: <20050624151119.KABQ11957.ibm56aec.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>
Message-ID: <NDEALJOEGMMPCDKIFGNFKEHHDKAA.jimdettman@earthlink.net>

Susan,

 John made and excellent point (pay check).  There is also that always fine
line of what a client really needs vs what they can really afford.  As long
as everyone is aware of the limitations that will be imposed by a particular
design, then "best" is not always "better".

<<I think I'm going with one table. Tomorrow, I may change my mind. :)>>

  That's what I'd do<g>.  I also leave design notes within the app on why a
given approach was used and how it could have been made better.  That helps
who ever maintains it down the road understand why it is the way it is.

Jim.

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Susan Harkins
Sent: Friday, June 24, 2005 11:11 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Re: Normalizing issue


This is pro bono -- no paycheck. :) I'm also doing it in my spare time -- as
I can -- so there's no time pressure. Ultimately, I will be the only user
unless other regions decide they like it too. Everything I do for me -- but
I do need to keep in mind that it might grow -- it's a consideration.

I think I'm going with one table. Tomorrow, I may change my mind. :)

Susan H.


While also keeping in mind just how much you are being paid to do this
job...


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From andy at minstersystems.co.uk  Fri Jun 24 12:43:19 2005
From: andy at minstersystems.co.uk (Andy Lacey)
Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2005 17:43:19 -0000
Subject: [AccessD] Setting ListIndex value (A97)
In-Reply-To: <F2BE8EAB3EA585418337B71BCE6F3BF304EBD4@msmet100.rail.nsw.gov.au>
Message-ID: <000001c2b2b4$a6c80920$36530c54@minster33c3r25>

Bruce

IIRC you need to do something like Me!lstControl.Selected(randomnuber)=True

-- Andy Lacey
http://www.minstersystems.co.uk 

> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com 
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of 
> Bruen, Bruce
> Sent: 24 June 2005 07:38
> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> Subject: [AccessD] Setting ListIndex value (A97)
> 
> 
> hi guys,
>  
> I need to set the selected item of a combobox to a random 
> value when user clicks a commandbutton.  e.g. [Select random 
> gift] button sets the
> Gift: combo next to it to a random value (between 1 and listcount-1!)
>  
> Since listindex is readonly can anyone tell me how to do this?
>  
> tia
> bruce
>  
>  
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From bheid at appdevgrp.com  Fri Jun 24 13:16:56 2005
From: bheid at appdevgrp.com (Bobby Heid)
Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2005 14:16:56 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] SQL "Like" question.
In-Reply-To: <916187228923D311A6FE00A0CC3FAA30BFF288@ADGSERVER>
Message-ID: <916187228923D311A6FE00A0CC3FAA30ABEC81@ADGSERVER>

Thanks.  I did not even think about it in terms of enclosing table names.  I
already handle the tick mark thingy.

Bobby

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Lonnie Johnson
Sent: Friday, June 24, 2005 11:17 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] SQL "Like" question.


Yes, the brackets are reserved for enclosing table, query and field names.
You may also want to look out for the tick mark or single quotation mark
('). This can trick your code to thinking you have jumped out of the SQL
String. For example the name O'Hare.

Bobby Heid <bheid at appdevgrp.com> wrote:Hey,

I have a search screen for an app that has several combo boxes that when the
user clicks the Find button, it builds a SQL query based upon the criteria
that the users have selected. The user can also use wild cards in the combo
boxes such as 'Carlton*'. Since they can use wild cards, I use LIKE when
building the SQL statement.

I got an email from a user today asking why a given project search was
returning no records. I looked at the data and this is what they were
searching for: 'Carlton [D]'. I suspected the data so I removed the brackets
from around the 'D' and the query worked fine.

My question is, is the bracket a special character? Are there other
characters that I need to watch out for? I know about the wild card
characters '*', '?', and the '#' character.

Thanks,
Bobby



From bchacc at san.rr.com  Fri Jun 24 13:20:36 2005
From: bchacc at san.rr.com (Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software)
Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2005 11:20:36 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Turn Off Help Box in Access 2003
References: <2FDE83AF1A69C84796CBD13788DDA88349ACDE@BONHAM.AD.UWS.EDU.AU>
	<42BBADF2.5080706@shaw.ca>
Message-ID: <01b701c578e9$6ad2cc40$6701a8c0@HAL9004>

Marty:

Thanks.  I also found this and it worked.  I turned it off through the 
Customize.  I have to take the mde to another machine and see if the setting 
follows it - if it's for the app or the installation of Office.  But your 
code is exactly what I was looking for.

Rocky

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "MartyConnelly" <martyconnelly at shaw.ca>
To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving" 
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Thursday, June 23, 2005 11:53 PM
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Turn Off Help Box in Access 2003


> Ah that Thingy Dingy! I thought it was the  ?  next to the max minimize 
> icons on a form
> not the Access menu command bar.
> This will toggle it in code, found name in object browser then looked it 
> up in help.
>
> Sub ToggleAskQuestionDropdown()
>    With Application.CommandBars
>        If .DisableAskAQuestionDropdown = True Then
>            .DisableAskAQuestionDropdown = False
>            Debug.Print "ask question turned on"
>        Else
>            .DisableAskAQuestionDropdown = True
>             Debug.Print "ask question turned Off"
>        End If
>    End With
> End Sub
>
> Darren Dick wrote:
>
>>Are you Guys talking about the same thing?
>>Marty seems to be talking about the What's this Button
>>Rocky is referring to the Small Search Field Just to the top right of
>>any open screen (A Unique 2003 Feature)
>>That's near the Close|Min/Max|Restore Buttons
>>
>>DD
>>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>>[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Rocky Smolin
>>- Beach Access Software
>>Sent: Friday, June 24, 2005 1:14 PM
>>To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
>>Subject: Re: [AccessD] Turn Off Help Box in Access 2003
>>
>>MinMax Buttons None.  Close button no. What's this No.  Everything
>>disappears but the help box.  And in the mde, the DoCmd.Maximize doesn't
>>work.  So the form doesn't open maximized.  But it works for you.  I
>>wonder what's going on.  I'm pretty sure the form isn't corrupted.
>>
>>Rocky
>>
>>----- Original Message -----
>>From: "MartyConnelly" <martyconnelly at shaw.ca>
>>To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving" 
>><accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
>>Sent: Thursday, June 23, 2005 7:26 PM
>>Subject: Re: [AccessD] Turn Off Help Box in Access 2003
>>
>>
>>
>>>Works for me in Access 2003
>>>Min Max Buttons     No
>>>Whats this button    No
>>>As a matter of fact on a basic virgin form it will squawk to you that
>>>
>>it
>>>will not let you turn ON the
>>>the Whats This Button to Yes unless MinMax is set to None.
>>>
>>>Maybe a corrupted form or you have turned on an odd
>>>
>>Application.SetOption
>>
>>>
>>>
>>>Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>Marty:
>>>>
>>>>Didn't work.  The help box ( which is a new feature in A2K3) still
>>>>
>>shows.
>>
>>>>Rocky
>>>>
>>>>----- Original Message ----- From: "MartyConnelly" 
>>>><martyconnelly at shaw.ca>
>>>>To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving" 
>>>><accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
>>>>Sent: Thursday, June 23, 2005 11:14 AM
>>>>Subject: Re: [AccessD] Turn Off Help Box in Access 2003
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>What's This? This property of the form  can only be turned on by
>>>>>
>>default
>>>>>to Yes when MinMax property set to No
>>>>>So just set Form property What's This to No.
>>>>>
>>>>>Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>Dear List:
>>>>>>In access 2003 up in the right corner by the maximize, minimize and
>>>>>>
>>
>>
>>>>>>close buttons there's a help box.  Does anyone know the syntax for 
>>>>>>turning this thing off through code?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>MTIA
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Rocky Smolin
>>>>>>Beach Access Software
>>>>>>http://www.e-z-mrp.com
>>>>>>858-259-4334
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>-- 
>>>>>Marty Connelly
>>>>>Victoria, B.C.
>>>>>Canada
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>-- 
>>>>>AccessD mailing list
>>>>>AccessD at databaseadvisors.com
>>>>>http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd
>>>>>Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>-- 
>>>Marty Connelly
>>>Victoria, B.C.
>>>Canada
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>-- 
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>>>AccessD at databaseadvisors.com
>>>http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd
>>>Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
> -- 
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> Victoria, B.C.
> Canada
>
>
>
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From bchacc at san.rr.com  Fri Jun 24 13:35:53 2005
From: bchacc at san.rr.com (Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software)
Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2005 11:35:53 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Turn Off Help Box in Access 2003
References: <2FDE83AF1A69C84796CBD13788DDA88349ACDE@BONHAM.AD.UWS.EDU.AU>
	<42BBADF2.5080706@shaw.ca> <01b701c578e9$6ad2cc40$6701a8c0@HAL9004>
Message-ID: <020e01c578eb$8d97f140$6701a8c0@HAL9004>

Marty:

What I meant was I also found this: 
http://www.annoyances.org/exec/show/article08-101 and finally figured out 
how to follow their directions.

Rocky


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software" <bchacc at san.rr.com>
To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving" 
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Friday, June 24, 2005 11:20 AM
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Turn Off Help Box in Access 2003


> Marty:
>
> Thanks.  I also found this and it worked.  I turned it off through the 
> Customize.  I have to take the mde to another machine and see if the 
> setting follows it - if it's for the app or the installation of Office. 
> But your code is exactly what I was looking for.
>
> Rocky
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "MartyConnelly" <martyconnelly at shaw.ca>
> To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving" 
> <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
> Sent: Thursday, June 23, 2005 11:53 PM
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] Turn Off Help Box in Access 2003
>
>
>> Ah that Thingy Dingy! I thought it was the  ?  next to the max minimize 
>> icons on a form
>> not the Access menu command bar.
>> This will toggle it in code, found name in object browser then looked it 
>> up in help.
>>
>> Sub ToggleAskQuestionDropdown()
>>    With Application.CommandBars
>>        If .DisableAskAQuestionDropdown = True Then
>>            .DisableAskAQuestionDropdown = False
>>            Debug.Print "ask question turned on"
>>        Else
>>            .DisableAskAQuestionDropdown = True
>>             Debug.Print "ask question turned Off"
>>        End If
>>    End With
>> End Sub
>>
>> Darren Dick wrote:
>>
>>>Are you Guys talking about the same thing?
>>>Marty seems to be talking about the What's this Button
>>>Rocky is referring to the Small Search Field Just to the top right of
>>>any open screen (A Unique 2003 Feature)
>>>That's near the Close|Min/Max|Restore Buttons
>>>
>>>DD
>>>
>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>>>[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Rocky Smolin
>>>- Beach Access Software
>>>Sent: Friday, June 24, 2005 1:14 PM
>>>To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
>>>Subject: Re: [AccessD] Turn Off Help Box in Access 2003
>>>
>>>MinMax Buttons None.  Close button no. What's this No.  Everything
>>>disappears but the help box.  And in the mde, the DoCmd.Maximize doesn't
>>>work.  So the form doesn't open maximized.  But it works for you.  I
>>>wonder what's going on.  I'm pretty sure the form isn't corrupted.
>>>
>>>Rocky
>>>
>>>----- Original Message -----
>>>From: "MartyConnelly" <martyconnelly at shaw.ca>
>>>To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving" 
>>><accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
>>>Sent: Thursday, June 23, 2005 7:26 PM
>>>Subject: Re: [AccessD] Turn Off Help Box in Access 2003
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>Works for me in Access 2003
>>>>Min Max Buttons     No
>>>>Whats this button    No
>>>>As a matter of fact on a basic virgin form it will squawk to you that
>>>>
>>>it
>>>>will not let you turn ON the
>>>>the Whats This Button to Yes unless MinMax is set to None.
>>>>
>>>>Maybe a corrupted form or you have turned on an odd
>>>>
>>>Application.SetOption
>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>Marty:
>>>>>
>>>>>Didn't work.  The help box ( which is a new feature in A2K3) still
>>>>>
>>>shows.
>>>
>>>>>Rocky
>>>>>
>>>>>----- Original Message ----- From: "MartyConnelly" 
>>>>><martyconnelly at shaw.ca>
>>>>>To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving" 
>>>>><accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
>>>>>Sent: Thursday, June 23, 2005 11:14 AM
>>>>>Subject: Re: [AccessD] Turn Off Help Box in Access 2003
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>What's This? This property of the form  can only be turned on by
>>>>>>
>>>default
>>>>>>to Yes when MinMax property set to No
>>>>>>So just set Form property What's This to No.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Dear List:
>>>>>>>In access 2003 up in the right corner by the maximize, minimize and
>>>>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>>>>close buttons there's a help box.  Does anyone know the syntax for 
>>>>>>>turning this thing off through code?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>MTIA
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Rocky Smolin
>>>>>>>Beach Access Software
>>>>>>>http://www.e-z-mrp.com
>>>>>>>858-259-4334
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>-- 
>>>>>>Marty Connelly
>>>>>>Victoria, B.C.
>>>>>>Canada
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>-- 
>>>>>>AccessD mailing list
>>>>>>AccessD at databaseadvisors.com
>>>>>>http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd
>>>>>>Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>-- 
>>>>Marty Connelly
>>>>Victoria, B.C.
>>>>Canada
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>-- 
>>>>AccessD mailing list
>>>>AccessD at databaseadvisors.com
>>>>http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd
>>>>Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>> -- 
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>> Victoria, B.C.
>> Canada
>>
>>
>>
>> -- 
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From jmhecht at earthlink.net  Fri Jun 24 23:17:17 2005
From: jmhecht at earthlink.net (Joe Hecht)
Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2005 21:17:17 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Import from FoxPro
In-Reply-To: <66ABA669023AE74B97746FD8E684392010175C@c2k3exchange.pgdp.corp.usec.com>
Message-ID: <000201c5793c$c6381510$6401a8c0@laptop1>

I have had to through Excel sometimes for FP Tables.

Check your properties after importing to Access

Joe Hecht
Los Angeles CA

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Hollis,Virginia
Sent: Friday, June 24, 2005 4:40 AM
To: accessD at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [AccessD] Import from FoxPro

Ok, what is the secret to importing from FoxPro to Access 2003? It is
not in the list of types anymore. I looked through the KB articles but
still have problems.

 

I pulled the tables up in Visual FoxPro, saved them out as dBase IV
files, and then tried to import them into Access 2003.  I got the
message:

 

"Unexpected Error from External Database Driver (8961)"

 

I was able to create an ODBC datasource based on a FoxPro driver that
was already on my computer.  I tried to import the tables, and it looked
like it was going to do it, but then I got an error, "Decimal field
precision too small...

 

I'm running out of ideas.

 

Virginia

 

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From ralphb at cwgsy.net  Sat Jun 25 01:27:02 2005
From: ralphb at cwgsy.net (Ralph Bryce)
Date: Sat, 25 Jun 2005 07:27:02 +0100
Subject: [AccessD] Import from FoxPro
In-Reply-To: <66ABA669023AE74B97746FD8E684392010175C@c2k3exchange.pgdp.c
	orp.usec.com>
Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.0.20050625072058.044a3eb0@mail.cwgsy.net>

Virginia

Have you looked at these articles?

http://office.microsoft.com/en-us/assistance/HA010546701033.aspx

http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=197893

Ralph Bryce

At 06:40 24/06/2005 -0500, you wrote:

>Ok, what is the secret to importing from FoxPro to Access 2003? It is
>not in the list of types anymore. I looked through the KB articles but
>still have problems.

::
::

>Virginia




From artful at rogers.com  Sat Jun 25 11:27:31 2005
From: artful at rogers.com (Arthur Fuller)
Date: Sat, 25 Jun 2005 12:27:31 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Error in Access 2003 that I've never seen before
In-Reply-To: <020e01c578eb$8d97f140$6701a8c0@HAL9004>
Message-ID: <200506251627.j5PGRYR09998@databaseadvisors.com>

Perhaps I've just been lucky, but I have never seen this error before. I'm
trying to delete a bad record in a data table, and I get the message "The
search key was not found in any record." I clicked Help and it told me
"Error 3709 -- The error occurs when an ISAM Seek is being executed and
there are no matching values in the index."

The value in question was in an autonumber column that was the PK of the
table.

I tried a bunch of different things such as removing the PK and all indexes
but none of them worked. Finally I Saved As to a new table name (without the
indexes) and in the new table I was able to delete the bad record. So I
removed all the relationships to the bad table, renamed it, and renamed the
copy to the original name. Finally I reimposed all the relationships, and
now everything works properly again.

Since I am up and running again, I am fine I suppose. But I am most puzzled
as to why this error occurred in the first place. Anyone got any ideas on
this?

Arthur



From accessd at shaw.ca  Sat Jun 25 13:06:34 2005
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Sat, 25 Jun 2005 11:06:34 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Error in Access 2003 that I've never seen before
In-Reply-To: <200506251627.j5PGRYR09998@databaseadvisors.com>
Message-ID: <0IIN0056RJMUMZ@l-daemon>

Hi Arthur:

It could be that the record you are trying to delete is not being referenced
properly; either the field named used is not correct or the table is
corrupted. It would be caused if the table index did not matching the table
data. I have only seen it once and I resolved it by exporting all the data
into a new table, deleting the old and then renaming the new table. Using
that method excluded a coding or table structure error. Conclusion; Either
the data or index was corrupted.

HTH
Jim 

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Arthur Fuller
Sent: Saturday, June 25, 2005 9:28 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] Error in Access 2003 that I've never seen before

Perhaps I've just been lucky, but I have never seen this error before. I'm
trying to delete a bad record in a data table, and I get the message "The
search key was not found in any record." I clicked Help and it told me
"Error 3709 -- The error occurs when an ISAM Seek is being executed and
there are no matching values in the index."

The value in question was in an autonumber column that was the PK of the
table.

I tried a bunch of different things such as removing the PK and all indexes
but none of them worked. Finally I Saved As to a new table name (without the
indexes) and in the new table I was able to delete the bad record. So I
removed all the relationships to the bad table, renamed it, and renamed the
copy to the original name. Finally I reimposed all the relationships, and
now everything works properly again.

Since I am up and running again, I am fine I suppose. But I am most puzzled
as to why this error occurred in the first place. Anyone got any ideas on
this?

Arthur

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From artful at rogers.com  Sat Jun 25 16:38:31 2005
From: artful at rogers.com (Arthur Fuller)
Date: Sat, 25 Jun 2005 17:38:31 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Error in Access 2003 that I've never seen before
In-Reply-To: <0IIN0056RJMUMZ@l-daemon>
Message-ID: <200506252138.j5PLcUR16468@databaseadvisors.com>

I tend to agree, but two puzzles remain (purely in an academic sense -- I
don't play to lose sleep over them).

1. The data can't be corrupted since the "bad record" copied intact to the
Saved As table.

2. With all the indexes removed, why was it doing an ISAM Seek? One would
have thought that in the absence of indexes, it would be forced to do a
table scan. Perhaps that just reveals how little I understand ISAM tables.
LOL.

Arthur

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim Lawrence
Sent: June 25, 2005 2:07 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Error in Access 2003 that I've never seen before

Hi Arthur:

It could be that the record you are trying to delete is not being referenced
properly; either the field named used is not correct or the table is
corrupted. It would be caused if the table index did not matching the table
data. I have only seen it once and I resolved it by exporting all the data
into a new table, deleting the old and then renaming the new table. Using
that method excluded a coding or table structure error. Conclusion; Either
the data or index was corrupted.

HTH
Jim 



From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com  Sat Jun 25 16:49:14 2005
From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (John W. Colby)
Date: Sat, 25 Jun 2005 17:49:14 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Error in Access 2003 that I've never seen before
In-Reply-To: <200506252138.j5PLcUR16468@databaseadvisors.com>
Message-ID: <000801c579cf$ba680ea0$6c7aa8c0@ColbyM6805>

If this is an Access container you are discussing, any field used in a
relationship has an index created on that field by the Jet engine as the
relationship is created.  This index is hidden.  It simply cannot be seen in
any way that I am aware of.  Thus if you are discussing a field like this,
there is likely that hidden index still in existence.

John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com 

Contribute your unused CPU cycles to a good cause:
http://folding.stanford.edu/

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Arthur Fuller
Sent: Saturday, June 25, 2005 5:39 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Error in Access 2003 that I've never seen before


I tend to agree, but two puzzles remain (purely in an academic sense -- I
don't play to lose sleep over them).

1. The data can't be corrupted since the "bad record" copied intact to the
Saved As table.

2. With all the indexes removed, why was it doing an ISAM Seek? One would
have thought that in the absence of indexes, it would be forced to do a
table scan. Perhaps that just reveals how little I understand ISAM tables.
LOL.

Arthur

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim Lawrence
Sent: June 25, 2005 2:07 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Error in Access 2003 that I've never seen before

Hi Arthur:

It could be that the record you are trying to delete is not being referenced
properly; either the field named used is not correct or the table is
corrupted. It would be caused if the table index did not matching the table
data. I have only seen it once and I resolved it by exporting all the data
into a new table, deleting the old and then renaming the new table. Using
that method excluded a coding or table structure error. Conclusion; Either
the data or index was corrupted.

HTH
Jim 

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From accessd at shaw.ca  Sat Jun 25 19:08:56 2005
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Sat, 25 Jun 2005 17:08:56 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Error in Access 2003 that I've never seen before
In-Reply-To: <000801c579cf$ba680ea0$6c7aa8c0@ColbyM6805>
Message-ID: <0IIO0030P0ESXW@l-daemon>

Hi John:

Yes, I could not have said it better as that is the obvious reason.

Jim

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of John W. Colby
Sent: Saturday, June 25, 2005 2:49 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Error in Access 2003 that I've never seen before

If this is an Access container you are discussing, any field used in a
relationship has an index created on that field by the Jet engine as the
relationship is created.  This index is hidden.  It simply cannot be seen in
any way that I am aware of.  Thus if you are discussing a field like this,
there is likely that hidden index still in existence.

John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com 

Contribute your unused CPU cycles to a good cause:
http://folding.stanford.edu/

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Arthur Fuller
Sent: Saturday, June 25, 2005 5:39 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Error in Access 2003 that I've never seen before


I tend to agree, but two puzzles remain (purely in an academic sense -- I
don't play to lose sleep over them).

1. The data can't be corrupted since the "bad record" copied intact to the
Saved As table.

2. With all the indexes removed, why was it doing an ISAM Seek? One would
have thought that in the absence of indexes, it would be forced to do a
table scan. Perhaps that just reveals how little I understand ISAM tables.
LOL.

Arthur

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim Lawrence
Sent: June 25, 2005 2:07 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Error in Access 2003 that I've never seen before

Hi Arthur:

It could be that the record you are trying to delete is not being referenced
properly; either the field named used is not correct or the table is
corrupted. It would be caused if the table index did not matching the table
data. I have only seen it once and I resolved it by exporting all the data
into a new table, deleting the old and then renaming the new table. Using
that method excluded a coding or table structure error. Conclusion; Either
the data or index was corrupted.

HTH
Jim 

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From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com  Sat Jun 25 19:34:13 2005
From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (John W. Colby)
Date: Sat, 25 Jun 2005 20:34:13 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Drilling down with ADO
Message-ID: <000901c579e6$c6e71880$6c7aa8c0@ColbyM6805>

One of the things that has always fascinated me is the concept (never
actually implemented) of using DAO to "drill down" into a bound control to
discover what field and table the object is bound to, and after that
"drilling down" into that field in the table to discover what datatype the
control is displaying.  For example, a control could be bound to a field
whose datatype is date.  You could have a rule that "all dates should be
displayed in YYYMMDD format", but in the future the powers that be could
decide that they wanted DDMMYYYY.  If you have ever designed a large system,
or worse inherited one, you can probably relate to trying to find all such
controls in a large system and changing the format from whatever the
developer applied (or didn't apply) to a standard format.  Some controls may
have a format in the format property, others may depend on format strings
applied to the field at the database level.  Others may have no specific
format, relying on the windows default.

I believe that it is possible to perform this function with DAO but is it
possible with ADO?  To my knowledge only ADO can access properties of
objects stored in a database container (a form or control).  As for fields
in tables, I know that DAO can do so, I have no idea whether ADO could
return the data type of a field in a table.  Is this possible?

John W. Colby
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From dejpolsys at hotmail.com  Sat Jun 25 20:50:24 2005
From: dejpolsys at hotmail.com (William Hindman)
Date: Sat, 25 Jun 2005 21:50:24 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Error in Access 2003 that I've never seen before
References: <0IIO0030P0ESXW@l-daemon>
Message-ID: <BAY103-DAV11B762E030AC3F584BEAADAEEF0@phx.gbl>

..would a decompile redo those indexes? ...I'm seeing what I consider as an 
unusually high number of errors in xp to 2003 conversions on a number of 
mdbs.

William

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Jim Lawrence" <accessd at shaw.ca>
To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'" 
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Saturday, June 25, 2005 8:08 PM
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Error in Access 2003 that I've never seen before


> Hi John:
>
> Yes, I could not have said it better as that is the obvious reason.
>
> Jim
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of John W. Colby
> Sent: Saturday, June 25, 2005 2:49 PM
> To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
> Subject: RE: [AccessD] Error in Access 2003 that I've never seen before
>
> If this is an Access container you are discussing, any field used in a
> relationship has an index created on that field by the Jet engine as the
> relationship is created.  This index is hidden.  It simply cannot be seen 
> in
> any way that I am aware of.  Thus if you are discussing a field like this,
> there is likely that hidden index still in existence.
>
> John W. Colby
> www.ColbyConsulting.com
>
> Contribute your unused CPU cycles to a good cause:
> http://folding.stanford.edu/
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Arthur Fuller
> Sent: Saturday, June 25, 2005 5:39 PM
> To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
> Subject: RE: [AccessD] Error in Access 2003 that I've never seen before
>
>
> I tend to agree, but two puzzles remain (purely in an academic sense -- I
> don't play to lose sleep over them).
>
> 1. The data can't be corrupted since the "bad record" copied intact to the
> Saved As table.
>
> 2. With all the indexes removed, why was it doing an ISAM Seek? One would
> have thought that in the absence of indexes, it would be forced to do a
> table scan. Perhaps that just reveals how little I understand ISAM tables.
> LOL.
>
> Arthur
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim Lawrence
> Sent: June 25, 2005 2:07 PM
> To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
> Subject: RE: [AccessD] Error in Access 2003 that I've never seen before
>
> Hi Arthur:
>
> It could be that the record you are trying to delete is not being 
> referenced
> properly; either the field named used is not correct or the table is
> corrupted. It would be caused if the table index did not matching the 
> table
> data. I have only seen it once and I resolved it by exporting all the data
> into a new table, deleting the old and then renaming the new table. Using
> that method excluded a coding or table structure error. Conclusion; Either
> the data or index was corrupted.
>
> HTH
> Jim
>
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From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com  Sat Jun 25 20:55:41 2005
From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (John W. Colby)
Date: Sat, 25 Jun 2005 21:55:41 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Error in Access 2003 that I've never seen before
In-Reply-To: <BAY103-DAV11B762E030AC3F584BEAADAEEF0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <000a01c579f2$288b9510$6c7aa8c0@ColbyM6805>

I doubt it seriously.  Decompile throws out the pcode streams built up from
compiling code and thus flushes the container of any "compiled or partially
compiled" code which will force a compile to start from scratch the next
time one is issued.  Indexes have nothing to do with code streams.

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-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of William Hindman
Sent: Saturday, June 25, 2005 9:50 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Error in Access 2003 that I've never seen before


..would a decompile redo those indexes? ...I'm seeing what I consider as an 
unusually high number of errors in xp to 2003 conversions on a number of 
mdbs.

William

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Jim Lawrence" <accessd at shaw.ca>
To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'" 
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Saturday, June 25, 2005 8:08 PM
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Error in Access 2003 that I've never seen before


> Hi John:
>
> Yes, I could not have said it better as that is the obvious reason.
>
> Jim
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of John W. 
> Colby
> Sent: Saturday, June 25, 2005 2:49 PM
> To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
> Subject: RE: [AccessD] Error in Access 2003 that I've never seen before
>
> If this is an Access container you are discussing, any field used in a 
> relationship has an index created on that field by the Jet engine as 
> the relationship is created.  This index is hidden.  It simply cannot 
> be seen in any way that I am aware of.  Thus if you are discussing a 
> field like this, there is likely that hidden index still in existence.
>
> John W. Colby
> www.ColbyConsulting.com
>
> Contribute your unused CPU cycles to a good cause: 
> http://folding.stanford.edu/
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Arthur 
> Fuller
> Sent: Saturday, June 25, 2005 5:39 PM
> To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
> Subject: RE: [AccessD] Error in Access 2003 that I've never seen before
>
>
> I tend to agree, but two puzzles remain (purely in an academic sense 
> -- I don't play to lose sleep over them).
>
> 1. The data can't be corrupted since the "bad record" copied intact to 
> the Saved As table.
>
> 2. With all the indexes removed, why was it doing an ISAM Seek? One 
> would have thought that in the absence of indexes, it would be forced 
> to do a table scan. Perhaps that just reveals how little I understand 
> ISAM tables. LOL.
>
> Arthur
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim 
> Lawrence
> Sent: June 25, 2005 2:07 PM
> To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
> Subject: RE: [AccessD] Error in Access 2003 that I've never seen before
>
> Hi Arthur:
>
> It could be that the record you are trying to delete is not being
> referenced
> properly; either the field named used is not correct or the table is
> corrupted. It would be caused if the table index did not matching the 
> table
> data. I have only seen it once and I resolved it by exporting all the data
> into a new table, deleting the old and then renaming the new table. Using
> that method excluded a coding or table structure error. Conclusion; Either
> the data or index was corrupted.
>
> HTH
> Jim
>
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From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com  Sat Jun 25 21:01:05 2005
From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (John W. Colby)
Date: Sat, 25 Jun 2005 22:01:05 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] DropMyRights
Message-ID: <000b01c579f2$e9a55420$6c7aa8c0@ColbyM6805>

Very interesting tool out there for running anything that interfaces with
the internet under reduced rights so that malicious code doesn't have
administrator rights.

http://nonadmin.editme.com/DropMyRights

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From stuart at lexacorp.com.pg  Sat Jun 25 22:43:10 2005
From: stuart at lexacorp.com.pg (Stuart McLachlan)
Date: Sun, 26 Jun 2005 13:43:10 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] Drilling down with ADO
In-Reply-To: <000901c579e6$c6e71880$6c7aa8c0@ColbyM6805>
Message-ID: <42BEB0EE.17070.E6E73B9@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>

On 25 Jun 2005 at 20:34, John W. Colby wrote:

> objects stored in a database container (a form or control).  As for fields
> in tables, I know that DAO can do so, I have no idea whether ADO could
> return the data type of a field in a table.  Is this possible?
> 

Function ListFieldTypes()
Dim cnn As ADODB.Connection
Dim rst As New ADODB.Recordset
Dim lngLoopcount As Long

Set cnn = CurrentProject.Connection
rst.ActiveConnection = cnn
rst.Open Source:="tbltest", ActiveConnection:=cnn
For lngLoopcount = 0 To rst.Fields.Count - 1
   Debug.Print rst.Fields(lngLoopcount).Type
Next
End Function

Type returns a constant defined in  ADODB.DataTypeEnum

 ' ADODB.DataTypeEnum
Const adBigInt = 20
Const adBinary = 128
Const adBoolean = 11
Const adBSTR = 8
Const adChapter = 136
Const adChar = 129
Const adCurrency = 6
Const adDate = 7
Const adDBDate = 133
Const adDBFileTime = 137
Const adDBTime = 134
Const adDBTimeStamp = 135
Const adDecimal = 14
Const adDouble = 5
Const adEmpty = 0
Const adError = 10
Const adFileTime = 64
Const adGUID = 72
Const adIDispatch = 9
Const adInteger = 3
Const adIUnknown = 13
Const adLongVarBinary = 205
Const adLongVarChar = 201
Const adLongVarWChar = 203 
Const adNumeric = 131
Const adPropVariant = 138 
Const adSingle = 4
Const adSmallInt = 2
Const adTinyInt = 16
Const adUnsignedBigInt = 21
Const adUnsignedInt = 19
Const adUnsignedSmallInt = 18
Const adUnsignedTinyInt = 17
Const adUserDefined = 132
Const adVarBinary = 204
Const adVarChar = 200
Const adVariant = 12
Const adVarNumeric = 139
Const adVarWChar = 202
Const adWChar = 130
-- 
Stuart




From Gustav at cactus.dk  Sun Jun 26 03:32:26 2005
From: Gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Sun, 26 Jun 2005 10:32:26 +0200
Subject: [AccessD] Relationship and hidden index (was: Error in Access 2003
	that I've never seen before)
Message-ID: <s2be844e.016@cactus.dk>

Hi John

>>> jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com 06/25 11:49 pm >>>
If this is an Access container you are discussing, any field used in a
relationship has an index created on that field by the Jet engine as
the
relationship is created.  This index is hidden.  It simply cannot be
seen in
any way that I am aware of.  Thus if you are discussing a field like
this,
there is likely that hidden index still in existence.

---

If not seen, they can be listed.
Here's an old posting of mine:

From: 	Gustav Brock
To:	AccessD at databaseadvisors.com 
Date: 	2001-09-04 11:40:00
Subject: 	Re: [AccessD] indexes in keys

Hi Susan and Mike

> I'm a little confused about indexes where keys are concerned. Jet
> indexes keys -- primary and foreign. When does it index a foreign
key
> and is this an internal function as there's no evidence in the
table's
> Indexed property. I'm assuming it's a temporary index, created as
> needed. Is this correct?

No, the index is not temporary.

I hate to quote myself but this time it is necessary.

Way back - on the old MT Group list - I posted the message below. The
problem is that, although the article referred to can still be found
on
the MS site, it has been edited down and all the notes (the real
stuff)
are gone.

The article has moved, and now is found at:

http://support.microsoft.com/support/kb/articles/Q116/1/45.asp 

The issue is, as Mike states, the hidden indexes. If you move along as
the disciplined developer doing as you have learned, creating indexes
then relations, you end up with duplicate indexes.
>From an advanced user's view this may be a nice feature with
automatically created indexes when needed, but why hide these? Stupid.

Anyway, here's the quote from 1999-09-04, exactly two years ago:

<quote>

Hi Larry,

> .. take a look at MSKB article Q116145 "Create and Drop Tables
> and Relationships Using SQL DDL"

http://technet.microsoft.com/cdonline/default-f.asp?target=http://technet.microsoft.com/cdonline/content/complete/srvnetwk/SQL/Technote/msjet/jetch03.htm


I did that, but I don't think this is what John is looking for:

Setting a referential integrity foreign key constraint is the only form
of
relationship that can be established through SQL DDL. To set other
Relation
object types, such as cascading updates or cascading deletes, you must
create
the Relation object through DAO.


Further, the article states as we might suspect:

There is no way to modify an existing relationship. You must delete
the
relationship and then re-create it.


NB: Finally it states this very interesting detail which I wasn't aware
of:

In the SQL DDL example shown earlier in this chapter, creating a new
relationship between two tables involves creating an index on the
foreign key
field. When you create a new Relation object by using DAO, Microsoft
Jet
automatically creates an index on the foreign key field or fields, even
if one
already exists. If you create a relationship between two tables with
referential
integrity enforced, avoid creating an index on the foreign key, as it
will be a
duplicate index. The foreign key index is necessary for enforcing
referential
integrity, so don't delete it. The index that's created on the foreign
key when
you create a relationship appears in the Indexes collection of the
foreign
table.

I can confirm this!
This simple function (no copyright stated) created for the purpose:

Public Function ChkIndexes()

  Dim dbs As Database
  Dim tdf As TableDef
  Dim intI As Integer
  Dim intF As Integer

  Set dbs = CurrentDb()
  Set tdf = dbs.TableDefs("tblchild")

  For intI = 1 To tdf.Indexes.Count
    With tdf.Indexes(intI - 1)
      Debug.Print .Name
      For intF = 1 To .Fields.Count
        Debug.Print , .Fields(intF - 1).Name
      Next intF
    End With
  Next intI

End Function

- returns:

PrimaryKey
              ID
Sekunda
              FK
tblParenttblChild
              FK


Creating a relationship creates an index given a name from
concatenating the
names of the parent and the child table.
However, this - the third index here, tblParenttblChild - is not
showing up when
opening the table in design view!

So: How many of us are dealing with hidden duplicate indexes??

</quote>

/gustav



From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com  Sun Jun 26 08:07:24 2005
From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (John W. Colby)
Date: Sun, 26 Jun 2005 09:07:24 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Relationship and hidden index (was: Error in Access
	2003that I've never seen before)
In-Reply-To: <s2be844e.016@cactus.dk>
Message-ID: <000201c57a50$02b8b940$6c7aa8c0@ColbyM6805>

I figured that there was a way to see indexes via DAO since it can see
anything in the db, it's just not "visual".

Anyway, thanks for the code and here it is again (up at the top of the email
;), slightly modified to pass in a tablename:

Public Function ChkIndexes(strTblName As String)

  Dim dbs As Database
  Dim tdf As TableDef
  Dim intI As Integer
  Dim intF As Integer

  Set dbs = CurrentDb()
  Set tdf = dbs.TableDefs(strTblName)

  For intI = 1 To tdf.Indexes.Count
    With tdf.Indexes(intI - 1)
      Debug.Print .Name
      For intF = 1 To .Fields.Count
        Debug.Print , .Fields(intF - 1).Name
      Next intF
    End With
  Next intI

End Function

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-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gustav Brock
Sent: Sunday, June 26, 2005 4:32 AM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [AccessD] Relationship and hidden index (was: Error in Access
2003that I've never seen before)


Hi John

>>> jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com 06/25 11:49 pm >>>
If this is an Access container you are discussing, any field used in a
relationship has an index created on that field by the Jet engine as the
relationship is created.  This index is hidden.  It simply cannot be seen in
any way that I am aware of.  Thus if you are discussing a field like this,
there is likely that hidden index still in existence.

---

If not seen, they can be listed.
Here's an old posting of mine:




From ssharkins at bellsouth.net  Sun Jun 26 09:27:00 2005
From: ssharkins at bellsouth.net (Susan Harkins)
Date: Sun, 26 Jun 2005 10:27:00 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Good Code Bad Code Question
In-Reply-To: <E61FC1D4B1918244905B113C680BEA8689A46F@infoserver01.infostat.local>
Message-ID: <20050626142931.RNTM5167.ibm59aec.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>

Charlotte, renaming a database is supposed to force a decompile. When you
open, run Compile from the Debug window. It might be an easier shortcut for
some -- especially for those with really huge systems and path names that
include all kinds of weird convention names and stuff. I know I've always
used it -- rather than the command line switch. 

I'm having trouble with 2003 and 2002 -- just nothing's working all the
sudden. I ran an Office Repair, but they're both still wacky. I'm going to
have to reinstall -- can't see any way out of it. 

But, on a lark this morning, I tried a decompile using the rename trick on
one of the mdb's that's showing distress and I noticed that once it
recompiled, the Compile option on the Debug menu displayed the OLD name, not
the new one -- weird huh? So, I'm wondering if the rename decompile trick
really works as good as it's supposed to? Or, this could just be more of my
exe's wackiness. Anybody but me ever experienced this? 

Susan H. 

Joe,

To decompile, use a command line argument in opening the database.  That
means you have to fully reference the path of the Access executable and the
full path of the target database or the /decompile switch will be ignored.
After you open the Access database that way, close the Access session, then
reopen the database normally without the decompile switch, go to the VBE and
use Debug-->Compile... To recompile the app.  This clears out some crud that
may otherwise cause you grief.




From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com  Sun Jun 26 09:39:34 2005
From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (John W. Colby)
Date: Sun, 26 Jun 2005 10:39:34 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Good Code Bad Code Question
In-Reply-To: <20050626142931.RNTM5167.ibm59aec.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>
Message-ID: <000301c57a5c$e3c7cff0$6c7aa8c0@ColbyM6805>

Set up a shortcut with the /decompile
Open Access with the decompile switch using that shortcut.
Once Access opens, use the File/Open to open the database you wish to
decompile

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-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Susan Harkins
Sent: Sunday, June 26, 2005 10:27 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Good Code Bad Code Question


Charlotte, renaming a database is supposed to force a decompile. When you
open, run Compile from the Debug window. It might be an easier shortcut for
some -- especially for those with really huge systems and path names that
include all kinds of weird convention names and stuff. I know I've always
used it -- rather than the command line switch. 

I'm having trouble with 2003 and 2002 -- just nothing's working all the
sudden. I ran an Office Repair, but they're both still wacky. I'm going to
have to reinstall -- can't see any way out of it. 

But, on a lark this morning, I tried a decompile using the rename trick on
one of the mdb's that's showing distress and I noticed that once it
recompiled, the Compile option on the Debug menu displayed the OLD name, not
the new one -- weird huh? So, I'm wondering if the rename decompile trick
really works as good as it's supposed to? Or, this could just be more of my
exe's wackiness. Anybody but me ever experienced this? 

Susan H. 

Joe,

To decompile, use a command line argument in opening the database.  That
means you have to fully reference the path of the Access executable and the
full path of the target database or the /decompile switch will be ignored.
After you open the Access database that way, close the Access session, then
reopen the database normally without the decompile switch, go to the VBE and
use Debug-->Compile... To recompile the app.  This clears out some crud that
may otherwise cause you grief.


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From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com  Sun Jun 26 09:44:07 2005
From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (John W. Colby)
Date: Sun, 26 Jun 2005 10:44:07 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Good Code Bad Code Question
In-Reply-To: <20050626142931.RNTM5167.ibm59aec.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>
Message-ID: <000401c57a5d$84a37820$6c7aa8c0@ColbyM6805>

Susan,

The name displayed on the top blue bar comes from several different places,
depending...

1) The name of the database container
2) Tools/Startup/Application Title
3) In the VBA Editor (looking at code) - Tools / Properties / General /
Project Name



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-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Susan Harkins
Sent: Sunday, June 26, 2005 10:27 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Good Code Bad Code Question


Charlotte, renaming a database is supposed to force a decompile. When you
open, run Compile from the Debug window. It might be an easier shortcut for
some -- especially for those with really huge systems and path names that
include all kinds of weird convention names and stuff. I know I've always
used it -- rather than the command line switch. 

I'm having trouble with 2003 and 2002 -- just nothing's working all the
sudden. I ran an Office Repair, but they're both still wacky. I'm going to
have to reinstall -- can't see any way out of it. 

But, on a lark this morning, I tried a decompile using the rename trick on
one of the mdb's that's showing distress and I noticed that once it
recompiled, the Compile option on the Debug menu displayed the OLD name, not
the new one -- weird huh? So, I'm wondering if the rename decompile trick
really works as good as it's supposed to? Or, this could just be more of my
exe's wackiness. Anybody but me ever experienced this? 

Susan H. 

Joe,

To decompile, use a command line argument in opening the database.  That
means you have to fully reference the path of the Access executable and the
full path of the target database or the /decompile switch will be ignored.
After you open the Access database that way, close the Access session, then
reopen the database normally without the decompile switch, go to the VBE and
use Debug-->Compile... To recompile the app.  This clears out some crud that
may otherwise cause you grief.


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From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com  Sun Jun 26 10:07:41 2005
From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (John W. Colby)
Date: Sun, 26 Jun 2005 11:07:41 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Word "insert picture" bug
Message-ID: <000501c57a60$cfc3c550$6c7aa8c0@ColbyM6805>

I am trying to insert a picture (bmp) into a word document.  I have already
inserted one and it worked fine.  This one only displays as much of the
BOTTOM of the picture as can fit on a line of text.  The rest of the picture
is invisible.  If you click on the picture, you can see the "resize
handles".  You can open the property box and see that it says the size
should be 4.33 x 4.65 inches.

What is going on here?

John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com 

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http://folding.stanford.edu/




From artful at rogers.com  Sun Jun 26 10:23:19 2005
From: artful at rogers.com (Arthur Fuller)
Date: Sun, 26 Jun 2005 11:23:19 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Run External App from within Access
In-Reply-To: <000401c57a5d$84a37820$6c7aa8c0@ColbyM6805>
Message-ID: <200506261523.j5QFNNR03716@databaseadvisors.com>

I'm having a senior moment here today, folks. I cannot remember how to run
an external app from within Access. In this case it's a batch file.

Followup question.... Is there a way to specify an exit level (i.e.
errorlevel) when exiting an Access app? Suppose for example that Access is
being invoked from a batch file, and that I want to set an errorlevel of 1
or 0, then take action on this value in the batch file.

I.e.

MyBatch.cmd:
'run a simple Access app
MySimpleApp
'test its exit value
If errorlevel = 1 goto One
If errorlevel = 0 goto Done

:One
Rem Do something cool

:Done
Rem Do nothing at all


TIA,
Arthur



From ssharkins at bellsouth.net  Sun Jun 26 10:54:12 2005
From: ssharkins at bellsouth.net (Susan Harkins)
Date: Sun, 26 Jun 2005 11:54:12 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Good Code Bad Code Question
In-Reply-To: <000401c57a5d$84a37820$6c7aa8c0@ColbyM6805>
Message-ID: <20050626155412.GBHG11957.ibm56aec.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>

<blush>

3) In the VBA Editor (looking at code) - Tools / Properties / General /
Project Name

That was it -- thanks!

Susan H. 


But, on a lark this morning, I tried a decompile using the rename trick on
one of the mdb's that's showing distress and I noticed that once it
recompiled, the Compile option on the Debug menu displayed the OLD name, not
the new one -- weird huh? So, I'm wondering if the rename decompile trick
really works as good as it's supposed to? Or, this could just be more of my
exe's wackiness. Anybody but me ever experienced this? 

Susan H. 



From artful at rogers.com  Sun Jun 26 10:56:50 2005
From: artful at rogers.com (Arthur Fuller)
Date: Sun, 26 Jun 2005 11:56:50 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Normalizing issue
In-Reply-To: <20050623135959.FMWJ25470.ibm57aec.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>
Message-ID: <200506261556.j5QFurR11298@databaseadvisors.com>

Methinks that you are doubly-inviting "trouble" here, Susan! But I love
trouble!

1. An increasing number of women (in Canada at least) choose to double-up
their surnames in the following fashion (don't know if this is how you
derived yours, and no matter): take your "maiden" surname and append to it
the name of your spouse. In your case, if applicable, it would imply that
your maiden name was Sales and that your spouse's surname was Harkins.

2. An increasing number of hetero married couples in Canada hyphenate their
surnames. Which order they choose, and why, I leave to others.

3. My wife's mother, born in Spain, has the surname Castro-Lema and the
given name(s) Flora Azucena. This denotes that her father's surname was
Castro and her mother's Lema. My wife's name is Samantha Ruskin-Lema, which
denotes that her father was named Ruskin and her mother Lema.

4. When we married, Samantha chose to retain her existing surname rather
than appending or adopting mine. Which suited me just fine. As I see it, our
convention in North America leaves women but two choices -- adopt your
father's surname or your husband's -- both inadequate, in my opinion. By
preserving her surname, rather than adopting or appending mine, Samantha
preserved both sides of her lineage.

5. In this case, the names are hyphenated. In your case, they are not. In
the hyphenated case the rule is simple: you sort on the first letter.
(Actually it's not so simple, given a name such as de la Vega, which should
be sorted under "V" not "D".

6. Let's hear from Shamil or some other lister acquainted with Russian
practices. I have read more than a few Russian novels (in translation of
course) but so far as I can conclude, if a man's surname is X then his
sister's surname is Xa, and conversely. Case in point (c.f. the current
Wimbledon tournament): Marat Safin's sister played this year; her surname is
Safina.

Ok, that ought to constitute a kettle of worms for further cooking! LOL.

7. I notice that you abbreviate your surname(s) to "Harkins" frequently.
Given that propensity, I see no harm in regarding "Sales" as a given name,
in terms of sort etc.

Arthur

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Susan Harkins
Sent: June 23, 2005 10:00 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] Normalizing issue

How do you guys deal with people that use three or more names
professionally? I do -- Susan Sales Harkins. 
 
Do you store the second name with the first or use three fields? The middle
name really isn't a "middle" name. It's actually part of the last name, but
the last name is the real last name -- so if you stored it with the last
name, you'd have to depend on users to enter it correctly, as in Harkins,
Sales --  which is a mistake before you even get started... And how do you
write in the flexibility that handles 2 or 3 names? 
 
Susan H. 
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From artful at rogers.com  Sun Jun 26 10:59:49 2005
From: artful at rogers.com (Arthur Fuller)
Date: Sun, 26 Jun 2005 11:59:49 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Normalizing issue
In-Reply-To: <20050623154231.MOKU25209.ibm63aec.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>
Message-ID: <200506261559.j5QFxqR11636@databaseadvisors.com>

The "nuisance" you cite is not much of a nuisance, IMO. Just create a Save
button or a Form_After_Update event that copies actual name to pen name in
the event of a blank pen name. Then the queries are simple.

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Susan Harkins
Sent: June 23, 2005 11:43 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Normalizing issue

 
If it isn't a middle or maiden name, what is it?  This gets even more tricky
with non-English names where "last" names can get really confusing.  I
generally provide a field for first, middle, and last name and make it the
responsibility of the user to enter the appropriate value in the appropriate
field.  The rules for parsing this can become so draconian, that it hardly
seems worth the work to do anything else.

========I'm in the middle of creating a database (pro bono) for a writer's
organization. It's a simple deal and will require little work -- but this is
already cropping up. These people will want their "writing" names with their
publications -- I'm thinking about just adding one more field to store their
"pen name" or whatever -- but then that becomes a nuisance if their name and
professional name are the same -- gotta fill in both or allow for the blanks
and go find the real name -- such a nuisance -- 

I think at this point the middle name is the best solution -- 

Susan H. 

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From artful at rogers.com  Sun Jun 26 11:02:57 2005
From: artful at rogers.com (Arthur Fuller)
Date: Sun, 26 Jun 2005 12:02:57 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Normalizing issue
In-Reply-To: <E61FC1D4B1918244905B113C680BEA86873AC0@infoserver01.infostat.local>
Message-ID: <200506261603.j5QG30R12548@databaseadvisors.com>

Great catch, Charlotte. Once I sold six articles to a single publication and
all appeared in a single issue! The in-house rule was that only two articles
by a single author could appear in any given issue, so I had to manufacture
two pen names. For one I stuck with my initials (Adrian Fischer) and for the
other I borrowed a name from one of my fave novels, Tom Pynchon's V -- Evan
Godolphin. LOL! I haven't thought about that for twenty years! Thanks for
the memories!

Arthur

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Charlotte Foust
Sent: June 23, 2005 11:51 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Normalizing issue

Since it's a writer's database, a separate *table* for pen names makes a
lot of sense.  Some writers use multiple pen names, so creating a
pseudonym table is the safest way to handle that and relate it to the
writer's actual name.  You could always use the real name as the default
when filling in a pen name.

Charlotte Foust



From ssharkins at bellsouth.net  Sun Jun 26 11:04:00 2005
From: ssharkins at bellsouth.net (Susan Harkins)
Date: Sun, 26 Jun 2005 12:04:00 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Normalizing issue
In-Reply-To: <200506261556.j5QFurR11298@databaseadvisors.com>
Message-ID: <20050626160400.GCZV11957.ibm56aec.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>

7. I notice that you abbreviate your surname(s) to "Harkins" frequently.
Given that propensity, I see no harm in regarding "Sales" as a given name,
in terms of sort etc.

=============I never intended Sales to be part of my "last name" -- it was
just a means of separating me from that other Susan Harkins that was in the
technical world at the time. I don't know if she's still out there and at
this point. I could probably drop the Sales and not incur any problems. Now,
it's just habit.

A quick google turns up others -- but none in the technical field that I've
ever found. 

I'll tell you the truth -- it was spooky. Felt like I was living in some
alternative universe when I saw her name the first time. :) I made a copy of
it and taped it to my office door for a while -- "Ripley's Believe it or
Not" kind of thing -- it was too strange. 

Susan H. 



From artful at rogers.com  Sun Jun 26 11:04:09 2005
From: artful at rogers.com (Arthur Fuller)
Date: Sun, 26 Jun 2005 12:04:09 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Normalizing issue
In-Reply-To: <200506231636.j5NGaU81135946@pimout1-ext.prodigy.net>
Message-ID: <200506261604.j5QG4CR12705@databaseadvisors.com>

I just answered this with regard to Spain. For other cultures I cannot offer
the same insight.

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of John Bartow
Sent: June 23, 2005 12:37 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Normalizing issue

Some cultures commonly use hyphenated names which include the maternal and
paternal names for offspring. Anyone on the list from such an area? Doesn't
Spain have one of those cultures?

John B.
 
If it isn't a middle or maiden name, what is it?  This gets even more tricky
with non-English names where "last" names can get really confusing.

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From ssharkins at bellsouth.net  Sun Jun 26 11:07:35 2005
From: ssharkins at bellsouth.net (Susan Harkins)
Date: Sun, 26 Jun 2005 12:07:35 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Normalizing issue
In-Reply-To: <200506261603.j5QG30R12548@databaseadvisors.com>
Message-ID: <20050626160735.GDRT11957.ibm56aec.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>

It's really very common -- especially for people writing in different
venues. For instance, I know people that right "romance" (the steamy kind)
novels -- they use pen names. They're not ashamed of their work, but you
really don't want little Betsy who loves your children's books finding your
hot steamy romance on the racks and thinking it's for her. :) In this case,
this is usually more an agent/publisher issue than for the writers. It's the
publishers that don't want the confusion, not necessarily the writers. 

Susan H. 

Great catch, Charlotte. Once I sold six articles to a single publication and
all appeared in a single issue! The in-house rule was that only two articles
by a single author could appear in any given issue, so I had to manufacture
two pen names. For one I stuck with my initials (Adrian Fischer) and for the
other I borrowed a name from one of my fave novels, Tom Pynchon's V -- Evan
Godolphin. LOL! I haven't thought about that for twenty years! Thanks for
the memories!



From ssharkins at bellsouth.net  Sun Jun 26 11:08:53 2005
From: ssharkins at bellsouth.net (Susan Harkins)
Date: Sun, 26 Jun 2005 12:08:53 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Normalizing issue
In-Reply-To: <20050626160735.GDRT11957.ibm56aec.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>
Message-ID: <20050626160854.GDXL11957.ibm56aec.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>

<gag> 

Oh my gosh... Of course I meant write, not right. Those of you that know me
from OT know that I am challenged in this way. :( 

Susan H. 

know people that right "romance" (the steamy kind) novels -- they use pen
names. They're not 



From artful at rogers.com  Sun Jun 26 11:13:33 2005
From: artful at rogers.com (Arthur Fuller)
Date: Sun, 26 Jun 2005 12:13:33 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Normalizing issue
In-Reply-To: <20050623182824.MXAF11273.ibm67aec.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>
Message-ID: <200506261613.j5QGDdR15009@databaseadvisors.com>

You ask a couple of smart questions here. I should point out however that
some articles at least do go "out of print". For example, my SQL Tips at
builder.com go virtually "out of print" rather quickly (i.e. the URL you
receive that points to them goes obsolete in a week or three). However, they
are changing that so stuff will be retrievable for a long time.

Next, you have the issue of multiple authors on a single book or article.
You may have to distinguish the principal author from the others. Finally,
let's take a case from my own sordid past in which I worked as part of a
team on a book about an O-O language. I wrote three of the approximately 20
chapters, and had no part in the writing of anything else in the book.
Should those 3 instances be regarded as "articles"? In a way they are closer
to articles than to authorship of the entire book.

Finally, the problem with using a pair of tables (Books and Mags) is that
before you're done, a third medium will emerge (DVDs, say), and that will
mean that you need to add a table at minimum. In light of this, my
preference would be to create a table PublicationTypes, containing these
three entries to start, and then have a single table containing the facts
about the publications, and finally an Authors table containing the names of
the authors of the various publications, perhaps also with a flag denoting
"Principal author". This would enable "SQL: Access to SQL Server" to have
either two principal authors or none, in addition to any number of ancillary
authors.

That's how I would model it, anyway. 

HTH,
Arthur

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Susan Harkins
Sent: June 23, 2005 2:28 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Normalizing issue

This is really getting much more complicated than I had planned. Now I have
to figure out how to deal with books versus articles. :) I thought about one
table that id's each publication as a book, article, etc. but I have one
problem. 

Books are usually in or out of print and that just doesn't apply for
articles. If I use a Yes/No for InPrint, then I've got records when an
inappropriate value -- No for magazines isn't really correct. I could use a
tri-state Yes/No I guess, and put Null to work, but ug... 

I can have a separate table that stores only book InPrint field. Or, I can
just use two different tables, one for books, for mags. 

Susan H.  

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim Dettman
Sent: Thursday, June 23, 2005 1:23 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Normalizing issue

<<OK -- so you're relating the pen name table to the member name and then
relating the book table to the pen name table?>>

  Yes.

Jim.

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Susan Harkins
Sent: Thursday, June 23, 2005 1:13 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Normalizing issue


OK -- so you're relating the pen name table to the member name and then
relating the book table to the pen name table?

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim Dettman
Sent: Thursday, June 23, 2005 1:10 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Normalizing issue

Slight correction:

tblMembers
MemberID
MemberName
DateCreated

tblPenNames
PenID
MemberID
PenName
DateCreated
Bio

tblBooks
BookID
PenID

Jim.

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Susan Harkins
Sent: Thursday, June 23, 2005 12:58 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Normalizing issue


I've been considering this, this morning and I think what I've finally come
up with is this:

A member name -- that's their real name -- which will relate to their books.
I "think" I will add a pen name field to the book table -- if they wrote the
name under another name, it'll be there for searches, write-up's, whatever.
But, there's only going to be one pen name for each book, so I think it's
safe to do this. What do you think?

Susan H.

Since it's a writer's database, a separate *table* for pen names makes a lot
of sense.  Some writers use multiple pen names, so creating a pseudonym
table is the safest way to handle that and relate it to the writer's actual
name.  You could always use the real name as the default when filling in a
pen name.

Charlotte Foust


-----Original Message-----
From: Susan Harkins [mailto:ssharkins at bellsouth.net]
Sent: Thursday, June 23, 2005 8:43 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Normalizing issue



If it isn't a middle or maiden name, what is it?  This gets even more tricky
with non-English names where "last" names can get really confusing.  I
generally provide a field for first, middle, and last name and make it the
responsibility of the user to enter the appropriate value in the appropriate
field.  The rules for parsing this can become so draconian, that it hardly
seems worth the work to do anything else.

========I'm in the middle of creating a database (pro bono) for a writer's
organization. It's a simple deal and will require little work
-- but this is already cropping up. These people will want their "writing"
names with their publications -- I'm thinking about just adding one more
field to store their "pen name" or whatever -- but then that becomes a
nuisance if their name and professional name are the same
-- gotta fill in both or allow for the blanks and go find the real name
-- such a nuisance --

I think at this point the middle name is the best solution --

Susan H.

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From artful at rogers.com  Sun Jun 26 11:15:27 2005
From: artful at rogers.com (Arthur Fuller)
Date: Sun, 26 Jun 2005 12:15:27 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Field Naming ( Just once I want to be ahead of JC )
In-Reply-To: <000301c57821$67019ce0$6c7aa8c0@ColbyM6805>
Message-ID: <200506261615.j5QGFUR15380@databaseadvisors.com>

I agree 100% and go one step further: enforce them in the Back End not the
Front End, and enforce RI wherever you can. Don't quit until you nuke all
the rows in all the tables that prevent 100% enforcement of RI.

Arthur

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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of John W. Colby
Sent: June 23, 2005 2:29 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Field Naming ( Just once I want to be ahead of JC )

Absolutely should.  If a relationship exists, and you care about referential
integrity, the database engine should enforce it where possible.

John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com 



From artful at rogers.com  Sun Jun 26 11:17:44 2005
From: artful at rogers.com (Arthur Fuller)
Date: Sun, 26 Jun 2005 12:17:44 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Re: Normalizing issue
In-Reply-To: <20050623194454.PJJJ8050.ibm62aec.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>
Message-ID: <200506261617.j5QGHmR16133@databaseadvisors.com>

This is fact, Susan. If you doubt me do some Googles etc.

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Susan Harkins
Sent: June 23, 2005 3:45 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Re: Normalizing issue

I just think Arthur's up to old tricks again... ;) 

Susan H. 

I wonder if they nicknamed him "Alfie", short for alphabet ;)

D


Surname:
Wolfeschlegelsteinhausenbergerdorffvoralternwarengewissenhaf
tschaferswesenchafewarenwholgepflegeundsorgfaltigkeitbeschut

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From artful at rogers.com  Sun Jun 26 11:18:50 2005
From: artful at rogers.com (Arthur Fuller)
Date: Sun, 26 Jun 2005 12:18:50 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Re: Normalizing issue
In-Reply-To: <42BBC4AA.3771.30398AF@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>
Message-ID: <200506261618.j5QGIsR16272@databaseadvisors.com>

Thanks for the verify, Stuart! Now if we could only get a German-speaking
lister to guide us through that surname! LOL.

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Stuart McLachlan
Sent: June 23, 2005 6:31 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Re: Normalizing issue

On 23 Jun 2005 at 15:44, Susan Harkins wrote:

> I just think Arthur's up to old tricks again... ;) 
> 

Nope, see http://www.everything2.com/index.pl?node_id=1534419
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From artful at rogers.com  Sun Jun 26 11:29:29 2005
From: artful at rogers.com (Arthur Fuller)
Date: Sun, 26 Jun 2005 12:29:29 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Normalizing issue
In-Reply-To: <20050626160400.GCZV11957.ibm56aec.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>
Message-ID: <200506261629.j5QGTWR18610@databaseadvisors.com>

Yeah I googled "Arthur Fuller" once and discovered that I was an American
painter in the late 19th Century. So now when I'm telling people to look for
my stuff I tell them "Arthur Fuller SQL", which eliminates the painter. LOL.

A.

-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Susan Harkins
Sent: June 26, 2005 12:04 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Normalizing issue

7. I notice that you abbreviate your surname(s) to "Harkins" frequently.
Given that propensity, I see no harm in regarding "Sales" as a given name,
in terms of sort etc.

=============I never intended Sales to be part of my "last name" -- it was
just a means of separating me from that other Susan Harkins that was in the
technical world at the time. I don't know if she's still out there and at
this point. I could probably drop the Sales and not incur any problems. Now,
it's just habit.

A quick google turns up others -- but none in the technical field that I've
ever found. 

I'll tell you the truth -- it was spooky. Felt like I was living in some
alternative universe when I saw her name the first time. :) I made a copy of
it and taped it to my office door for a while -- "Ripley's Believe it or
Not" kind of thing -- it was too strange. 

Susan H. 

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From lembit.soobik at t-online.de  Sun Jun 26 11:43:37 2005
From: lembit.soobik at t-online.de (Lembit Soobik)
Date: Sun, 26 Jun 2005 18:43:37 +0200
Subject: [AccessD] Re: Normalizing issue
References: <200506261618.j5QGIsR16272@databaseadvisors.com>
Message-ID: <003c01c57a6e$33ccacd0$0200a8c0@p600>

oh, well, Arthur,
its a concatenation of names, and words.
doesnt make any sense to me.
if this has really been used as name (which I dont beleive), maybe some history
or linguistics professor could make us some story of that.

Lembit

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Arthur Fuller" <artful at rogers.com>
To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'"
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Sunday, June 26, 2005 6:18 PM
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Re: Normalizing issue


> Thanks for the verify, Stuart! Now if we could only get a German-speaking
> lister to guide us through that surname! LOL.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Stuart McLachlan
> Sent: June 23, 2005 6:31 PM
> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> Subject: RE: [AccessD] Re: Normalizing issue
>
> On 23 Jun 2005 at 15:44, Susan Harkins wrote:
>
> > I just think Arthur's up to old tricks again... ;)
> >
>
> Nope, see http://www.everything2.com/index.pl?node_id=1534419
> -- 
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From ssharkins at bellsouth.net  Sun Jun 26 11:45:21 2005
From: ssharkins at bellsouth.net (Susan Harkins)
Date: Sun, 26 Jun 2005 12:45:21 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Normalizing issue
In-Reply-To: <200506261613.j5QGDdR15009@databaseadvisors.com>
Message-ID: <20050626164526.WJSK8050.ibm62aec.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>


Next, you have the issue of multiple authors on a single book or article.

=======For the purposes of this database, this won't be an issue. We're
simply tracking the works of individual authors -- not the authors for
individual works. But, if it comes up later, I won't have a problem revising
it. 

You may have to distinguish the principal author from the others. Finally,
let's take a case from my own sordid past in which I worked as part of a
team on a book about an O-O language. I wrote three of the approximately 20
chapters, and had no part in the writing of anything else in the book.
Should those 3 instances be regarded as "articles"? In a way they are closer
to articles than to authorship of the entire book.

===========For the purposes of this db, that won't be an issue either --
ditto above. There wouldn't be a record for an et. Al -- if an author wanted
us to track a book they had contributed to, they would have to list the
book's author, as published. Right now, we're not tracking that sort of
thing, but it could come up later. What you did just push though, is the
difference between writer and illustrator -- many of these people are
illustrators and I haven't even allowed for that. <groan>

Finally, the problem with using a pair of tables (Books and Mags) is that
before you're done, a third medium will emerge (DVDs, say), and that will
mean that you need to add a table at minimum. In light of this, my
preference would be to create a table PublicationTypes, containing these
three entries to start, and then have a single table containing the facts
about the publications, and finally an Authors table containing the names of
the authors of the various publications, perhaps also with a flag denoting
"Principal author". This would enable "SQL: Access to SQL Server" to have
either two principal authors or none, in addition to any number of ancillary
authors.

============Me too -- that is exactly what I've done because I've already
added a third type already: books, periodicals, and online. You're
absolutely right on this one. In the long run, I'd rather deal with the Null
fields than compound all the queries, etc. with multiple tables.  

Susan H. 



From ssharkins at bellsouth.net  Sun Jun 26 11:46:51 2005
From: ssharkins at bellsouth.net (Susan Harkins)
Date: Sun, 26 Jun 2005 12:46:51 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Normalizing issue
In-Reply-To: <200506261613.j5QGDdR15009@databaseadvisors.com>
Message-ID: <20050626164651.WJYP8050.ibm62aec.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>


Next, you have the issue of multiple authors on a single book or article.
You may have to distinguish the principal author from the others. Finally,
let's take a case from my own sordid past in which I worked as part of a
team on a book about an O-O language. I wrote three of the approximately 20
chapters, and had no part in the writing of anything else in the book.
Should those 3 instances be regarded as "articles"? In a way they are closer
to articles than to authorship of the entire book.

===========Arthur -- do you realize how you just complicated my entire
application?????????????

Well... I'm glad it happened now. :) 

We started off tracking authors -- not right -- we have to track
publications -- only way to go. 

Susan H. 



From stuart at lexacorp.com.pg  Sun Jun 26 13:44:10 2005
From: stuart at lexacorp.com.pg (Stuart McLachlan)
Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2005 04:44:10 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] Run External App from within Access
In-Reply-To: <200506261523.j5QFNNR03716@databaseadvisors.com>
References: <000401c57a5d$84a37820$6c7aa8c0@ColbyM6805>
Message-ID: <42BF841A.3653.11A75816@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>

On 26 Jun 2005 at 11:23, Arthur Fuller wrote:

> I'm having a senior moment here today, folks. I cannot remember how to run
> an external app from within Access. In this case it's a batch file.
> 

Shell()

> Followup question.... Is there a way to specify an exit level (i.e.
> errorlevel) when exiting an Access app? Suppose for example that Access is
> being invoked from a batch file, and that I want to set an errorlevel of 1
> or 0, then take action on this value in the batch file.
> 


AFAIK, you can't - the errorlevel would need to be returned by Access 
itself, not your app.

> I.e.
> 
> MyBatch.cmd:
> 'run a simple Access app
> MySimpleApp
> 'test its exit value
> If errorlevel = 1 goto One
> If errorlevel = 0 goto Done
> 

You could use a sentinel file. Create a small file with a filename which 
indicates the level you want to return and use "if exist filename" 


-- 
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From Gustav at cactus.dk  Sun Jun 26 14:41:28 2005
From: Gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Sun, 26 Jun 2005 21:41:28 +0200
Subject: [AccessD] Run External App from within Access
Message-ID: <s2bf212a.033@cactus.dk>

Hi Arthur

As to the errorlevel ...
Write your codes to a (local) temp text file and read that afterwards -
simple but it works.

/gustav

>>> artful at rogers.com 06/26 5:23 pm >>>
I'm having a senior moment here today, folks. I cannot remember how to
run
an external app from within Access. In this case it's a batch file.

Followup question.... Is there a way to specify an exit level (i.e.
errorlevel) when exiting an Access app? Suppose for example that Access
is
being invoked from a batch file, and that I want to set an errorlevel
of 1
or 0, then take action on this value in the batch file.

I.e.

MyBatch.cmd:
'run a simple Access app
MySimpleApp
'test its exit value
If errorlevel = 1 goto One
If errorlevel = 0 goto Done

:One
Rem Do something cool

:Done
Rem Do nothing at all


TIA,
Arthur



From accessd at shaw.ca  Sun Jun 26 15:12:21 2005
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Sun, 26 Jun 2005 13:12:21 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Run External App from within Access
In-Reply-To: <200506261523.j5QFNNR03716@databaseadvisors.com>
Message-ID: <0IIP00J7FK4KMA@l-daemon>

Hi Arthur:

The part you forgot was the 'choice' dos command option. Here is piece of
sample code from MS help.

@echo off
cls
echo.
echo A   Microsoft Editor
echo B   Microsoft Anti-Virus
echo C   Microsoft Backup
echo.
choice /c:abc Choose an option
if errorlevel 3 goto MSBackup
if errorlevel 2 goto Msav
if errorlevel 1 goto Edit

:Edit
edit
goto End

:Msav
msav
goto End

:Msbackup
msbackup
goto End

:End

HTH
Jim


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Arthur Fuller
Sent: Sunday, June 26, 2005 8:23 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] Run External App from within Access

I'm having a senior moment here today, folks. I cannot remember how to run
an external app from within Access. In this case it's a batch file.

Followup question.... Is there a way to specify an exit level (i.e.
errorlevel) when exiting an Access app? Suppose for example that Access is
being invoked from a batch file, and that I want to set an errorlevel of 1
or 0, then take action on this value in the batch file.

I.e.

MyBatch.cmd:
'run a simple Access app
MySimpleApp
'test its exit value
If errorlevel = 1 goto One
If errorlevel = 0 goto Done

:One
Rem Do something cool

:Done
Rem Do nothing at all


TIA,
Arthur

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From Robert at servicexp.com  Sun Jun 26 16:50:56 2005
From: Robert at servicexp.com (Robert Gracie)
Date: Sun, 26 Jun 2005 17:50:56 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Mappoint Control ?
In-Reply-To: <0IIP00J7FK4KMA@l-daemon>
Message-ID: <20050626215103.D107C41405@mail01.powweb.com>


Has anyone figured out how to use the control on a form in A2K?  Is the
following still valid?

http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/default.asp?url=/library/en-us/mappoint200
4/BIZAPIMapPointControl.asp

Robert



From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com  Sun Jun 26 21:25:05 2005
From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (John W. Colby)
Date: Sun, 26 Jun 2005 22:25:05 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Mappoint Control ?
In-Reply-To: <20050626215103.D107C41405@mail01.powweb.com>
Message-ID: <000301c57abf$71fd1200$6c7aa8c0@ColbyM6805>

I THINK I used the control in an Access control.  I definitely DID embed a
map in a control somehow.  However I am not doing so this time around.  I am
referencing the Mappoint library and just doing it native.  When I do
anything, an actual instance of mappoint opens.

Any specific reason to use a control in a form?

John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com 

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Sent: Sunday, June 26, 2005 5:51 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] Mappoint Control ?



Has anyone figured out how to use the control on a form in A2K?  Is the
following still valid?

http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/default.asp?url=/library/en-us/mappoint200
4/BIZAPIMapPointControl.asp

Robert

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From newsgrps at dalyn.co.nz  Sun Jun 26 21:43:45 2005
From: newsgrps at dalyn.co.nz (David Emerson)
Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2005 14:43:45 +1200
Subject: [AccessD] Graph Rowsource
Message-ID: <6.2.1.2.0.20050627144335.0340e100@mail.dalyn.co.nz>

AccessXP ADP,  SQL2000

I am trying to change a graphs rowsource via VBA.   When I have the 
following in the Detail_Format section of the report -

     Me!chtincNeeds.RowSource = "SELECT C1stName ...  " (Rest of query omitted)

I get an error 2191 - You can't set the rowsource property in print preview 
or after printing has started.

If I put it on the report's on open event I get error 2455 - You entered an 
expression that has an invalid reference to the property RowSource.

How can I dinamically change the rowsource?



From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com  Sun Jun 26 22:28:33 2005
From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (John W. Colby)
Date: Sun, 26 Jun 2005 23:28:33 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Word and Pictures
Message-ID: <000401c57ac8$502be8f0$6c7aa8c0@ColbyM6805>

I am trying to insert pictures in my Word document and cannot see them.
When I search the web I find that "you can't see pictures in normal view".
What in the world is going on?  This seems rather bizarre to me.

John W. Colby
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From accessd at shaw.ca  Sun Jun 26 23:23:57 2005
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Sun, 26 Jun 2005 21:23:57 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Graph Rowsource
In-Reply-To: <6.2.1.2.0.20050627144335.0340e100@mail.dalyn.co.nz>
Message-ID: <0IIQ00F2N6VT8F@l-daemon>

Hi David:

You may have a look at an article posted to DBA site that deals specifically
with changing report data source on the fly. Some of the information may be
helpful:
http://www.databaseadvisors.com/newsletters/newsletter112003/0311UnboundRepo
rts.htm

HTH
Jim

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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of David Emerson
Sent: Sunday, June 26, 2005 7:44 PM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [AccessD] Graph Rowsource

AccessXP ADP,  SQL2000

I am trying to change a graphs rowsource via VBA.   When I have the 
following in the Detail_Format section of the report -

     Me!chtincNeeds.RowSource = "SELECT C1stName ...  " (Rest of query
omitted)

I get an error 2191 - You can't set the rowsource property in print preview 
or after printing has started.

If I put it on the report's on open event I get error 2455 - You entered an 
expression that has an invalid reference to the property RowSource.

How can I dinamically change the rowsource?

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From accessd at shaw.ca  Sun Jun 26 23:28:42 2005
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Sun, 26 Jun 2005 21:28:42 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Word and Pictures
In-Reply-To: <000401c57ac8$502be8f0$6c7aa8c0@ColbyM6805>
Message-ID: <0IIQ00E6573QBT@l-daemon>

Hi John:

I looked into a similar situation a while back and here are a few things you
can check out: http://word.mvps.org/FAQs/DrwGrphcs/InvisibleGraphics.htm

HTH
Jim

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[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of John W. Colby
Sent: Sunday, June 26, 2005 8:29 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] Word and Pictures

I am trying to insert pictures in my Word document and cannot see them.
When I search the web I find that "you can't see pictures in normal view".
What in the world is going on?  This seems rather bizarre to me.

John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com 

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From dmcafee at pacbell.net  Sun Jun 26 23:57:35 2005
From: dmcafee at pacbell.net (dmcafee at pacbell.net)
Date: Sun, 26 Jun 2005 21:57:35 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Graph Rowsource
In-Reply-To: <6.2.1.2.0.20050627144335.0340e100@mail.dalyn.co.nz>
Message-ID: <KDEHKEMIOHGKCDHLPPLKOEPOFFAA.dmcafee@pacbell.net>

Why don't you make the row source a Stored Procedure (sproc) and have the
sproc do the correct SELECT for you? That way you don't need to anything
fancy in the FE. I tend to not give users select rights to tables and make
everything sproc driven.

D

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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of David Emerson
Sent: Sunday, June 26, 2005 7:44 PM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [AccessD] Graph Rowsource


AccessXP ADP,  SQL2000

I am trying to change a graphs rowsource via VBA.   When I have the
following in the Detail_Format section of the report -

     Me!chtincNeeds.RowSource = "SELECT C1stName ...  " (Rest of query
omitted)

I get an error 2191 - You can't set the rowsource property in print preview
or after printing has started.

If I put it on the report's on open event I get error 2455 - You entered an
expression that has an invalid reference to the property RowSource.

How can I dinamically change the rowsource?

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From newsgrps at dalyn.co.nz  Mon Jun 27 00:40:28 2005
From: newsgrps at dalyn.co.nz (David Emerson)
Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2005 17:40:28 +1200
Subject: [AccessD] Graph Rowsource
In-Reply-To: <KDEHKEMIOHGKCDHLPPLKOEPOFFAA.dmcafee@pacbell.net>
References: <6.2.1.2.0.20050627144335.0340e100@mail.dalyn.co.nz>
	<KDEHKEMIOHGKCDHLPPLKOEPOFFAA.dmcafee@pacbell.net>
Message-ID: <6.2.1.2.0.20050627171902.03200b00@mail.dalyn.co.nz>

Running with this idea, how do I pass a parameter to the sproc.  In the 
recordsource I have:

EXEC dbo.sprptIncomeNeedsChart ClientIDNo

but it seems to be treating the field (ClientIDNo) as a varchar value 
('ClientIDNo'), not an integer (which the value is)

I can't include the ClientIDNo field in the sproc and use child and master 
fields because I can't work out how not to include that field in the data 
being used in the graph itself.

Here is the main part of the sproc:

SELECT C1stName, CDisIncome AS [Required Funds], CDisIncP + CDisLumpSum + 
CDisSuper + CDisOtherInc AS [Available Funds]
FROM vwCashManagement
WHERE ClientIDNo = @txtClientIDNo
UNION SELECT P1stName, PDisIncome AS [Required Funds], PDisIncC + 
PDisLumpSum + PDisSuper + PDisOtherInc AS [Available Funds]
FROM vwCashManagement
WHERE ClientIDNo = @txtClientIDNo


David

At 27/06/2005, you wrote:
>Why don't you make the row source a Stored Procedure (sproc) and have the
>sproc do the correct SELECT for you? That way you don't need to anything
>fancy in the FE. I tend to not give users select rights to tables and make
>everything sproc driven.
>
>D
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of David Emerson
>Sent: Sunday, June 26, 2005 7:44 PM
>To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
>Subject: [AccessD] Graph Rowsource
>
>
>AccessXP ADP,  SQL2000
>
>I am trying to change a graphs rowsource via VBA.   When I have the
>following in the Detail_Format section of the report -
>
>      Me!chtincNeeds.RowSource = "SELECT C1stName ...  " (Rest of query
>omitted)
>
>I get an error 2191 - You can't set the rowsource property in print preview
>or after printing has started.
>
>If I put it on the report's on open event I get error 2455 - You entered an
>expression that has an invalid reference to the property RowSource.
>
>How can I dinamically change the rowsource?
>
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From dmcafee at pacbell.net  Mon Jun 27 01:21:15 2005
From: dmcafee at pacbell.net (dmcafee at pacbell.net)
Date: Sun, 26 Jun 2005 23:21:15 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Graph Rowsource
In-Reply-To: <6.2.1.2.0.20050627171902.03200b00@mail.dalyn.co.nz>
Message-ID: <KDEHKEMIOHGKCDHLPPLKEEACFGAA.dmcafee@pacbell.net>

Are you sure you have an input parameter that is set to an INT and not a
VARCHAR?

Make sure the top line looks like this:

ALTER PROCEDURE sprptIncomeNeedsChart (@txtClientIDNo AS INT) AS

Then in your report, opent he properties box and in the Data tab, you can
type in an Input parameter in either of the following manners:

		@txtClientIDNo = 1234
			or
		@txtClientIDNo = Forms![SomeForm]![txtClientIDNo]

Its late, and I'm not getting everything through my thick skull right now.
I'll take a look at it on the morning if nobody else has chimed in.

David




-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of David Emerson
Sent: Sunday, June 26, 2005 10:40 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Graph Rowsource


Running with this idea, how do I pass a parameter to the sproc.  In the
recordsource I have:

EXEC dbo.sprptIncomeNeedsChart ClientIDNo

but it seems to be treating the field (ClientIDNo) as a varchar value
('ClientIDNo'), not an integer (which the value is)

I can't include the ClientIDNo field in the sproc and use child and master
fields because I can't work out how not to include that field in the data
being used in the graph itself.

Here is the main part of the sproc:

SELECT C1stName, CDisIncome AS [Required Funds], CDisIncP + CDisLumpSum +
CDisSuper + CDisOtherInc AS [Available Funds]
FROM vwCashManagement
WHERE ClientIDNo = @txtClientIDNo
UNION SELECT P1stName, PDisIncome AS [Required Funds], PDisIncC +
PDisLumpSum + PDisSuper + PDisOtherInc AS [Available Funds]
FROM vwCashManagement
WHERE ClientIDNo = @txtClientIDNo


David

At 27/06/2005, you wrote:
>Why don't you make the row source a Stored Procedure (sproc) and have the
>sproc do the correct SELECT for you? That way you don't need to anything
>fancy in the FE. I tend to not give users select rights to tables and make
>everything sproc driven.
>
>D
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of David Emerson
>Sent: Sunday, June 26, 2005 7:44 PM
>To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
>Subject: [AccessD] Graph Rowsource
>
>
>AccessXP ADP,  SQL2000
>
>I am trying to change a graphs rowsource via VBA.   When I have the
>following in the Detail_Format section of the report -
>
>      Me!chtincNeeds.RowSource = "SELECT C1stName ...  " (Rest of query
>omitted)
>
>I get an error 2191 - You can't set the rowsource property in print preview
>or after printing has started.
>
>If I put it on the report's on open event I get error 2455 - You entered an
>expression that has an invalid reference to the property RowSource.
>
>How can I dinamically change the rowsource?
>
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From accessd666 at yahoo.com  Mon Jun 27 04:41:56 2005
From: accessd666 at yahoo.com (Sad Der)
Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2005 02:41:56 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [AccessD] Compact & Repair (Urgent)
Message-ID: <20050627094156.3981.qmail@web31602.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Hi,

I forgot my CD's from the ADHB2K. I've got the book
here but I cannot seem to find the code to compact and
repair an access database.

Has anyone got it or knows where in the book I can
find it?

Thnx!!!!!!!!

Regards,

SD


		
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From paul.hartland at fsmail.net  Mon Jun 27 04:57:08 2005
From: paul.hartland at fsmail.net (paul.hartland at fsmail.net)
Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2005 11:57:08 +0200 (CEST)
Subject: [AccessD] Compact & Repair (Urgent)
Message-ID: <20864317.1119866228342.JavaMail.www@wwinf3201>

This is a snippet of code I used to use, if anyone has a better way I would also like to see it:

Dim MyDate As String
    MyDate = Left(Date, 2) & "_" & Mid(Date, 4, 2) & "_" & Right(Date, 2)
    FileCopy "Database", "Database_Backup" & MyDate & ".mdb"
    DBEngine.CompactDatabase "Database_Backup"& MyDate & ".mdb", "Database_Compact"
    Kill "Database"
    Name "Database_Compact" As "Database"

Database = Original Database
Database_Backup = Backup (Just in case of an OOPS)

Database_Compact = Name of database once compacted & repaired



Message date : Jun 27 2005, 10:43 AM
>From : "Sad Der" 
To : "Acces User Group" 
Copy to : 
Subject : [AccessD] Compact & Repair (Urgent)
Hi,

I forgot my CD's from the ADHB2K. I've got the book
here but I cannot seem to find the code to compact and
repair an access database.

Has anyone got it or knows where in the book I can
find it?

Thnx!!!!!!!!

Regards,

SD



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From accessd666 at yahoo.com  Mon Jun 27 05:01:09 2005
From: accessd666 at yahoo.com (Sad Der)
Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2005 03:01:09 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [AccessD] Compact & Repair (Urgent)
In-Reply-To: <20864317.1119866228342.JavaMail.www@wwinf3201>
Message-ID: <20050627100110.33646.qmail@web31612.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

?? Is that all ??

Nice! Thnx.

Regards
SD

--- paul.hartland at fsmail.net wrote:

> This is a snippet of code I used to use, if anyone
> has a better way I would also like to see it:
> 
> Dim MyDate As String
>     MyDate = Left(Date, 2) & "_" & Mid(Date, 4, 2) &
> "_" & Right(Date, 2)
>     FileCopy "Database", "Database_Backup" & MyDate
> & ".mdb"
>     DBEngine.CompactDatabase "Database_Backup"&
> MyDate & ".mdb", "Database_Compact"
>     Kill "Database"
>     Name "Database_Compact" As "Database"
> 
> Database = Original Database
> Database_Backup = Backup (Just in case of an OOPS)
> 
> Database_Compact = Name of database once compacted &
> repaired
> 
> 
> 
> Message date : Jun 27 2005, 10:43 AM
> >From : "Sad Der" 
> To : "Acces User Group" 
> Copy to : 
> Subject : [AccessD] Compact & Repair (Urgent)
> Hi,
> 
> I forgot my CD's from the ADHB2K. I've got the book
> here but I cannot seem to find the code to compact
> and
> repair an access database.
> 
> Has anyone got it or knows where in the book I can
> find it?
> 
> Thnx!!!!!!!!
> 
> Regards,
> 
> SD
> 
> 
> 
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From paul.hartland at isharp.co.uk  Mon Jun 27 05:23:15 2005
From: paul.hartland at isharp.co.uk (Paul Hartland (ISHARP))
Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2005 11:23:15 +0100
Subject: [AccessD] Compact & Repair (Urgent)
In-Reply-To: <20050627100110.33646.qmail@web31612.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <!~!UENERkVCMDkAAQACAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAC4AAAAAAAAAclrM129q6km1GlSfRwF8CgEAFKerAD79REu7GTojEo2iDgAAAAddkgAAEAAAACirxcxHPZNHkjdNIsJS5coBAAAAAA==@isharp.co.uk>

It's what I used to use in a timer program in Visual Basic 6.0 and used to
work fine 

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Sad Der
Sent: 27 June 2005 11:01
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Compact & Repair (Urgent)

?? Is that all ??

Nice! Thnx.

Regards
SD

--- paul.hartland at fsmail.net wrote:

> This is a snippet of code I used to use, if anyone has a better way I 
> would also like to see it:
> 
> Dim MyDate As String
>     MyDate = Left(Date, 2) & "_" & Mid(Date, 4, 2) & "_" & Right(Date, 
> 2)
>     FileCopy "Database", "Database_Backup" & MyDate & ".mdb"
>     DBEngine.CompactDatabase "Database_Backup"& MyDate & ".mdb", 
> "Database_Compact"
>     Kill "Database"
>     Name "Database_Compact" As "Database"
> 
> Database = Original Database
> Database_Backup = Backup (Just in case of an OOPS)
> 
> Database_Compact = Name of database once compacted & repaired
> 
> 
> 
> Message date : Jun 27 2005, 10:43 AM
> >From : "Sad Der" 
> To : "Acces User Group" 
> Copy to : 
> Subject : [AccessD] Compact & Repair (Urgent) Hi,
> 
> I forgot my CD's from the ADHB2K. I've got the book here but I cannot 
> seem to find the code to compact and repair an access database.
> 
> Has anyone got it or knows where in the book I can find it?
> 
> Thnx!!!!!!!!
> 
> Regards,
> 
> SD
> 
> 
> 
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> 
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From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com  Mon Jun 27 06:02:14 2005
From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (John W. Colby)
Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2005 07:02:14 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Word and Pictures
In-Reply-To: <0IIQ00E6573QBT@l-daemon>
Message-ID: <000b01c57b07$ad6608e0$6c7aa8c0@ColbyM6805>

That got it, thanks.  It was the paragraph EXACTLY thing.

John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com 

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-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim Lawrence
Sent: Monday, June 27, 2005 12:29 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Word and Pictures


Hi John:

I looked into a similar situation a while back and here are a few things you
can check out: http://word.mvps.org/FAQs/DrwGrphcs/InvisibleGraphics.htm

HTH
Jim

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of John W. Colby
Sent: Sunday, June 26, 2005 8:29 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] Word and Pictures

I am trying to insert pictures in my Word document and cannot see them. When
I search the web I find that "you can't see pictures in normal view". What
in the world is going on?  This seems rather bizarre to me.

John W. Colby
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From robert at servicexp.com  Mon Jun 27 06:25:13 2005
From: robert at servicexp.com (Robert Gracie)
Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2005 07:25:13 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Mappoint Control ?
Message-ID: <3C6BD610FA11044CADFC8C13E6D5508F4ECA@gbsserver.GBS.local>

John,
 Just looking for a deeper level of integration.

Thanks!!
Robert

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of John W. Colby
Sent: Monday, June 27, 2005 5:16 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Mappoint Control ?

I THINK I used the control in an Access control.  I definitely DID embed
a map in a control somehow.  However I am not doing so this time around.
I am referencing the Mappoint library and just doing it native.  When I
do anything, an actual instance of mappoint opens.

Any specific reason to use a control in a form?

John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com 

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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Robert Gracie
Sent: Sunday, June 26, 2005 5:51 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] Mappoint Control ?



Has anyone figured out how to use the control on a form in A2K?  Is the
following still valid?

http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/default.asp?url=/library/en-us/mappoin
t200
4/BIZAPIMapPointControl.asp

Robert

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From mmattys at rochester.rr.com  Mon Jun 27 07:08:28 2005
From: mmattys at rochester.rr.com (Michael R Mattys)
Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2005 08:08:28 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Mappoint Control ?
References: <3C6BD610FA11044CADFC8C13E6D5508F4ECA@gbsserver.GBS.local>
Message-ID: <01dd01c57b10$efa7ec60$0202a8c0@default>

Robert,

All of my work is done in A2K first.
What is it that needs to be figured out?

----

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From dejpolsys at hotmail.com  Mon Jun 27 08:24:06 2005
From: dejpolsys at hotmail.com (William Hindman)
Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2005 09:24:06 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Sandbox Mode A2K3
References: <3C6BD610FA11044CADFC8C13E6D5508F4ECA@gbsserver.GBS.local>
	<01dd01c57b10$efa7ec60$0202a8c0@default>
Message-ID: <BAY103-DAV3409E9B3843D67A7DDD2CAEEE0@phx.gbl>

..anyone with experience using this "feature" ...pros/cons re turning it 
on/off? ...how much code change impact if not presently using any macros?

William


From Jim.Hale at FleetPride.com  Mon Jun 27 09:17:54 2005
From: Jim.Hale at FleetPride.com (Hale, Jim)
Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2005 09:17:54 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Normalizing issue
Message-ID: <6A6AA9DF57E4F046BDA1E273BDDB677233769E@corp-es01.fleetpride.com>

Hey, sometimes Freudian slips are closer to the truth. My favorite (real)
examples are mythologies for methodologies and deceivables for receivables.
Jim

-----Original Message-----
From: Susan Harkins [mailto:ssharkins at bellsouth.net]
Sent: Sunday, June 26, 2005 11:09 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Normalizing issue


<gag> 

Oh my gosh... Of course I meant write, not right. Those of you that know me
from OT know that I am challenged in this way. :( 

Susan H. 

know people that right "romance" (the steamy kind) novels -- they use pen
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From jimdettman at earthlink.net  Mon Jun 27 10:05:09 2005
From: jimdettman at earthlink.net (Jim Dettman)
Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2005 11:05:09 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Normalizing issue
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Susan,

  I have the same problem.  Except I do it when I speak as well as write.
The worst (and the most embarrassing), is when I mean to say Witch and say
*itch.

Jim.

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Sent: Sunday, June 26, 2005 12:09 PM
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Subject: RE: [AccessD] Normalizing issue


<gag>

Oh my gosh... Of course I meant write, not right. Those of you that know me
from OT know that I am challenged in this way. :(

Susan H.

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From BBarabash at TappeConstruction.com  Mon Jun 27 10:05:56 2005
From: BBarabash at TappeConstruction.com (Brett Barabash)
Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2005 10:05:56 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Normalizing issue
Message-ID: <100F91B31300334B89EC531C9DCB08659F833B@tccexch01.tappeconstruction.net>

My fave was when JC accidentally referred to a composite key as a
"compost key".  Particularily amusing if you've ever heard his rants on
the subject.


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Hale, Jim
Sent: Monday, June 27, 2005 9:18 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Normalizing issue


Hey, sometimes Freudian slips are closer to the truth. My favorite
(real) examples are mythologies for methodologies and deceivables for
receivables.
Jim

-----Original Message-----
From: Susan Harkins [mailto:ssharkins at bellsouth.net]
Sent: Sunday, June 26, 2005 11:09 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Normalizing issue


<gag> 

Oh my gosh... Of course I meant write, not right. Those of you that know
me from OT know that I am challenged in this way. :( 

Susan H. 

know people that right "romance" (the steamy kind) novels -- they use
pen names. They're not 


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From cfoust at infostatsystems.com  Mon Jun 27 10:11:00 2005
From: cfoust at infostatsystems.com (Charlotte Foust)
Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2005 08:11:00 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Compact & Repair (Urgent)
Message-ID: <E61FC1D4B1918244905B113C680BEA86873ACA@infoserver01.infostat.local>

That's pretty much the way the internal compact and repair works as
well.

Charlotte Foust


-----Original Message-----
From: paul.hartland at fsmail.net [mailto:paul.hartland at fsmail.net] 
Sent: Monday, June 27, 2005 2:57 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Compact & Repair (Urgent)


This is a snippet of code I used to use, if anyone has a better way I
would also like to see it:

Dim MyDate As String
    MyDate = Left(Date, 2) & "_" & Mid(Date, 4, 2) & "_" & Right(Date,
2)
    FileCopy "Database", "Database_Backup" & MyDate & ".mdb"
    DBEngine.CompactDatabase "Database_Backup"& MyDate & ".mdb",
"Database_Compact"
    Kill "Database"
    Name "Database_Compact" As "Database"

Database = Original Database
Database_Backup = Backup (Just in case of an OOPS)

Database_Compact = Name of database once compacted & repaired



Message date : Jun 27 2005, 10:43 AM
>From : "Sad Der"
To : "Acces User Group" 
Copy to : 
Subject : [AccessD] Compact & Repair (Urgent)
Hi,

I forgot my CD's from the ADHB2K. I've got the book
here but I cannot seem to find the code to compact and
repair an access database.

Has anyone got it or knows where in the book I can
find it?

Thnx!!!!!!!!

Regards,

SD



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From martyconnelly at shaw.ca  Mon Jun 27 12:11:30 2005
From: martyconnelly at shaw.ca (MartyConnelly)
Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2005 10:11:30 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Import from FoxPro
References: <000201c5793c$c6381510$6401a8c0@laptop1>
Message-ID: <42C03342.5040407@shaw.ca>

If all else fails there is the VFP 9.0 OLE DB Provider to get at the dbc 
file or directory of tables via ADO

I tried downloading the old ODBC Ver 6.0 driver from the main MS Foxpro 
page but that doesn't work
and maybe bad to install on WinXP or Win2000, Microsoft is unclear on this.


This code will read the VFP 9.0 Northwinds Foxpro Sample database that 
comes with the provider


'With the release of Microsoft Visual FoxPro 9.0,
'a new version of the Microsoft OLE DB Provider for Visual FoxPro is now 
available.
'The OLE DB provider is installed when Visual FoxPro 9.0 is installed
'and is typically saved in the C:\Program Files\Common Files\System\Ole 
DB folder.
'It is a single file that is named VfpOleDb.dll and is version 9.0.0.2412.
'To download the OLE DB provider for free, visit the following Microsoft 
Web site:
'http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyId=E1A87D8F-2D58-491F-A0FA-95A3289C5FD4&displaylang=en
Sub testvfp()
Dim oConn As ADODB.Connection
Dim oRS As ADODB.Recordset
Set oConn = New ADODB.Connection
Set oRS = New ADODB.Recordset
oConn.ConnectionString = "provider=vfpoledb.1;" & _
   "data source=C:\Program Files\Microsoft Visual FoxPro OLE DB 
Provider\Samples\Northwind\northwind.dbc"
  
' ConnStr = "Driver=Microsoft Visual Foxpro Driver; " + _
'   "UID=;SourceType=DBC;SourceDB=C:\VFP\Samples\Tastrade\Data\Tastrade.dbc"
oConn.Open

'Make sure the connection opened:
If Not CBool(oConn.State And adStateOpen) Then
  'Could not open the connection:
  MsgBox "Could not open connection..."
  Set oConn = Nothing
    Set oRS = Nothing
  Exit Sub
Else
  'Process data as usual here...

        Dim oCat As New ADOX.Catalog
        Dim oTbl As ADOX.Table
         Dim oTblc As ADOX.Table
         Dim oname As ADOX.DataTypeEnum
        Dim oCol As Column
       
            oCat.ActiveConnection = oConn

                Debug.Print "TableName   number of columns"
            For Each oTbl In oCat.Tables
                Debug.Print oTbl.Name & "   " & oTbl.Columns.Count
            Next

            Set oTblc = oCat.Tables("Customers")
             Debug.Print ADOX.DataTypeEnum.adChar; ADOX.DataTypeEnum.adChar

            For Each oCol In oTblc.Columns
                Debug.Print oCol.Name & ": " & oCol.DefinedSize & _
                          ": " & oCol.Type
            Next

oRS.Open "SELECT * FROM Customers", oConn

With oRS
  .MoveFirst
  Debug.Print oRS.Fields.Item(0), oRS.Fields.Item(1)
End With
End If
Dim rsSchema As ADODB.Recordset
Dim fld As ADODB.Field
Dim rCriteria As Variant
'Pass in the table name to retrieve index info. The other
'array parameters may be defined as follows:
'    TABLE_CATALOG  (first parameter)
'    TABLE_SCHEMA   (second)
'    INDEX_NAME     (third)
'    TYPE           (fourth)
'    TABLE_NAME     (fifth, e.g. "employee")

rCriteria = Array(Empty, Empty, Empty, Empty, "Customers")

Set rsSchema = oConn.OpenSchema(adSchemaIndexes, rCriteria)

Debug.Print "Recordcount: " & rsSchema.RecordCount

While Not rsSchema.EOF
      Debug.Print "==================================================="

   For Each fld In rsSchema.Fields
      Debug.Print fld.Name & ": " & fld.Value
      'Debug.Print "------------------------------------------------"
   Next
   rsSchema.MoveNext
Wend
rsSchema.Close
Set rsSchema = Nothing
 Set oConn = Nothing
End Sub

Joe Hecht wrote:

>I have had to through Excel sometimes for FP Tables.
>
>Check your properties after importing to Access
>
>Joe Hecht
>Los Angeles CA
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Hollis,Virginia
>Sent: Friday, June 24, 2005 4:40 AM
>To: accessD at databaseadvisors.com
>Subject: [AccessD] Import from FoxPro
>
>Ok, what is the secret to importing from FoxPro to Access 2003? It is
>not in the list of types anymore. I looked through the KB articles but
>still have problems.
>
> 
>
>I pulled the tables up in Visual FoxPro, saved them out as dBase IV
>files, and then tried to import them into Access 2003.  I got the
>message:
>
> 
>
>"Unexpected Error from External Database Driver (8961)"
>
> 
>
>I was able to create an ODBC datasource based on a FoxPro driver that
>was already on my computer.  I tried to import the tables, and it looked
>like it was going to do it, but then I got an error, "Decimal field
>precision too small...
>
> 
>
>I'm running out of ideas.
>
> 
>
>Virginia
>
> 
>
>  
>

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From newsgrps at dalyn.co.nz  Mon Jun 27 12:30:42 2005
From: newsgrps at dalyn.co.nz (David Emerson)
Date: Tue, 28 Jun 2005 05:30:42 +1200
Subject: [AccessD] Graph Rowsource
In-Reply-To: <KDEHKEMIOHGKCDHLPPLKEEACFGAA.dmcafee@pacbell.net>
References: <6.2.1.2.0.20050627171902.03200b00@mail.dalyn.co.nz>
	<KDEHKEMIOHGKCDHLPPLKEEACFGAA.dmcafee@pacbell.net>
Message-ID: <6.2.1.2.0.20050628052801.0312b1d0@mail.dalyn.co.nz>

Input parameter is set to Int.

The rowsource is for a graph on the report, not the report itself.  There 
doesn't seem to be a property for Input parameters in the graph's property box.

David

At 27/06/2005, you wrote:
>Are you sure you have an input parameter that is set to an INT and not a
>VARCHAR?
>
>Make sure the top line looks like this:
>
>ALTER PROCEDURE sprptIncomeNeedsChart (@txtClientIDNo AS INT) AS
>
>Then in your report, opent he properties box and in the Data tab, you can
>type in an Input parameter in either of the following manners:
>
>                 @txtClientIDNo = 1234
>                         or
>                 @txtClientIDNo = Forms![SomeForm]![txtClientIDNo]
>
>Its late, and I'm not getting everything through my thick skull right now.
>I'll take a look at it on the morning if nobody else has chimed in.
>
>David
>
>
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of David Emerson
>Sent: Sunday, June 26, 2005 10:40 PM
>To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
>Subject: RE: [AccessD] Graph Rowsource
>
>
>Running with this idea, how do I pass a parameter to the sproc.  In the
>recordsource I have:
>
>EXEC dbo.sprptIncomeNeedsChart ClientIDNo
>
>but it seems to be treating the field (ClientIDNo) as a varchar value
>('ClientIDNo'), not an integer (which the value is)
>
>I can't include the ClientIDNo field in the sproc and use child and master
>fields because I can't work out how not to include that field in the data
>being used in the graph itself.
>
>Here is the main part of the sproc:
>
>SELECT C1stName, CDisIncome AS [Required Funds], CDisIncP + CDisLumpSum +
>CDisSuper + CDisOtherInc AS [Available Funds]
>FROM vwCashManagement
>WHERE ClientIDNo = @txtClientIDNo
>UNION SELECT P1stName, PDisIncome AS [Required Funds], PDisIncC +
>PDisLumpSum + PDisSuper + PDisOtherInc AS [Available Funds]
>FROM vwCashManagement
>WHERE ClientIDNo = @txtClientIDNo
>
>
>David
>
>At 27/06/2005, you wrote:
> >Why don't you make the row source a Stored Procedure (sproc) and have the
> >sproc do the correct SELECT for you? That way you don't need to anything
> >fancy in the FE. I tend to not give users select rights to tables and make
> >everything sproc driven.
> >
> >D
> >
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> >[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of David Emerson
> >Sent: Sunday, June 26, 2005 7:44 PM
> >To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
> >Subject: [AccessD] Graph Rowsource
> >
> >
> >AccessXP ADP,  SQL2000
> >
> >I am trying to change a graphs rowsource via VBA.   When I have the
> >following in the Detail_Format section of the report -
> >
> >      Me!chtincNeeds.RowSource = "SELECT C1stName ...  " (Rest of query
> >omitted)
> >
> >I get an error 2191 - You can't set the rowsource property in print preview
> >or after printing has started.
> >
> >If I put it on the report's on open event I get error 2455 - You entered an
> >expression that has an invalid reference to the property RowSource.
> >
> >How can I dinamically change the rowsource?



From newsgrps at dalyn.co.nz  Mon Jun 27 12:37:43 2005
From: newsgrps at dalyn.co.nz (David Emerson)
Date: Tue, 28 Jun 2005 05:37:43 +1200
Subject: [AccessD] Graph Rowsource
Message-ID: <6.2.1.2.0.20050628053637.03143220@mail.dalyn.co.nz>

Thanks Jim,

I am starting to think that if I can't pass a parameter to the graph's 
rowsource then I will need to go your suggested way and create a table 
before running the report which has the data in it.

David

At 27/06/2005, you wrote:
>Hi David:
>
>You may have a look at an article posted to DBA site that deals specifically
>with changing report data source on the fly. Some of the information may be
>helpful:
>http://www.databaseadvisors.com/newsletters/newsletter112003/0311UnboundReports.htm
>
>HTH
>Jim
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of David Emerson
>Sent: Sunday, June 26, 2005 7:44 PM
>To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
>Subject: [AccessD] Graph Rowsource
>
>AccessXP ADP,  SQL2000
>
>I am trying to change a graphs rowsource via VBA.   When I have the
>following in the Detail_Format section of the report -
>
>      Me!chtincNeeds.RowSource = "SELECT C1stName ...  " (Rest of query
>omitted)
>
>I get an error 2191 - You can't set the rowsource property in print preview
>or after printing has started.
>
>If I put it on the report's on open event I get error 2455 - You entered an
>expression that has an invalid reference to the property RowSource.
>
>How can I dinamically change the rowsource?



From rl_stewart at highstream.net  Mon Jun 27 13:45:33 2005
From: rl_stewart at highstream.net (Robert L. Stewart)
Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2005 13:45:33 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Re: Normalizing issue
In-Reply-To: <200506261700.j5QH07R25531@databaseadvisors.com>
References: <200506261700.j5QH07R25531@databaseadvisors.com>
Message-ID: <6.2.1.2.2.20050627134219.039ed710@pop3.highstream.net>

Or, you could add a table for related parties and carry their role in that 
table.  Then you can get all the co-authors and illustrators, reviewers, etc.

tblPublicationRelatedParty
PublicationRelatedPartyID
PublicationID
PartyID
RoleID


At 12:00 PM 6/26/2005, you wrote:
>Date: Sun, 26 Jun 2005 12:45:21 -0400
>From: "Susan Harkins" <ssharkins at bellsouth.net>
>Subject: RE: [AccessD] Normalizing issue
>To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'"
>         <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
>Message-ID: <20050626164526.WJSK8050.ibm62aec.bellsouth.net at SUSANONE>
>Content-Type: text/plain;       charset="us-ascii"
>
>
>Next, you have the issue of multiple authors on a single book or article.
>
>=======For the purposes of this database, this won't be an issue. We're
>simply tracking the works of individual authors -- not the authors for
>individual works. But, if it comes up later, I won't have a problem revising
>it.
>
>You may have to distinguish the principal author from the others. Finally,
>let's take a case from my own sordid past in which I worked as part of a
>team on a book about an O-O language. I wrote three of the approximately 20
>chapters, and had no part in the writing of anything else in the book.
>Should those 3 instances be regarded as "articles"? In a way they are closer
>to articles than to authorship of the entire book.
>
>===========For the purposes of this db, that won't be an issue either --
>ditto above. There wouldn't be a record for an et. Al -- if an author wanted
>us to track a book they had contributed to, they would have to list the
>book's author, as published. Right now, we're not tracking that sort of
>thing, but it could come up later. What you did just push though, is the
>difference between writer and illustrator -- many of these people are
>illustrators and I haven't even allowed for that. <groan>
>
>Finally, the problem with using a pair of tables (Books and Mags) is that
>before you're done, a third medium will emerge (DVDs, say), and that will
>mean that you need to add a table at minimum. In light of this, my
>preference would be to create a table PublicationTypes, containing these
>three entries to start, and then have a single table containing the facts
>about the publications, and finally an Authors table containing the names of
>the authors of the various publications, perhaps also with a flag denoting
>"Principal author". This would enable "SQL: Access to SQL Server" to have
>either two principal authors or none, in addition to any number of ancillary
>authors.
>
>============Me too -- that is exactly what I've done because I've already
>added a third type already: books, periodicals, and online. You're
>absolutely right on this one. In the long run, I'd rather deal with the Null
>fields than compound all the queries, etc. with multiple tables.
>
>Susan H.




From ssharkins at bellsouth.net  Mon Jun 27 15:35:57 2005
From: ssharkins at bellsouth.net (Susan Harkins)
Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2005 16:35:57 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Re: Normalizing issue
In-Reply-To: <6.2.1.2.2.20050627134219.039ed710@pop3.highstream.net>
Message-ID: <20050627203557.KNJH29052.ibm68aec.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>

I think I've decided on a simple "people" table -- with a mtm related table
that describes their role in any publication. Seems to make the most sense
at this point. 

Susan H. 

Or, you could add a table for related parties and carry their role in that
table.  Then you can get all the co-authors and illustrators, reviewers,
etc.

tblPublicationRelatedParty
PublicationRelatedPartyID
PublicationID
PartyID
RoleID


At 12:00 PM 6/26/2005, you wrote:
>Date: Sun, 26 Jun 2005 12:45:21 -0400
>From: "Susan Harkins" <ssharkins at bellsouth.net>
>Subject: RE: [AccessD] Normalizing issue
>To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'"
>         <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
>Message-ID: <20050626164526.WJSK8050.ibm62aec.bellsouth.net at SUSANONE>
>Content-Type: text/plain;       charset="us-ascii"
>
>
>Next, you have the issue of multiple authors on a single book or article.
>
>=======For the purposes of this database, this won't be an issue. We're 
>simply tracking the works of individual authors -- not the authors for 
>individual works. But, if it comes up later, I won't have a problem 
>revising it.
>
>You may have to distinguish the principal author from the others. 
>Finally, let's take a case from my own sordid past in which I worked as 
>part of a team on a book about an O-O language. I wrote three of the 
>approximately 20 chapters, and had no part in the writing of anything else
in the book.
>Should those 3 instances be regarded as "articles"? In a way they are 
>closer to articles than to authorship of the entire book.
>
>===========For the purposes of this db, that won't be an issue either 
>-- ditto above. There wouldn't be a record for an et. Al -- if an 
>author wanted us to track a book they had contributed to, they would 
>have to list the book's author, as published. Right now, we're not 
>tracking that sort of thing, but it could come up later. What you did 
>just push though, is the difference between writer and illustrator -- 
>many of these people are illustrators and I haven't even allowed for 
>that. <groan>
>
>Finally, the problem with using a pair of tables (Books and Mags) is 
>that before you're done, a third medium will emerge (DVDs, say), and 
>that will mean that you need to add a table at minimum. In light of 
>this, my preference would be to create a table PublicationTypes, 
>containing these three entries to start, and then have a single table 
>containing the facts about the publications, and finally an Authors 
>table containing the names of the authors of the various publications, 
>perhaps also with a flag denoting "Principal author". This would enable 
>"SQL: Access to SQL Server" to have either two principal authors or 
>none, in addition to any number of ancillary authors.
>
>============Me too -- that is exactly what I've done because I've 
>already added a third type already: books, periodicals, and online. 
>You're absolutely right on this one. In the long run, I'd rather deal 
>with the Null fields than compound all the queries, etc. with multiple
tables.
>
>Susan H.


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From robert at servicexp.com  Mon Jun 27 16:56:29 2005
From: robert at servicexp.com (Robert Gracie)
Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2005 17:56:29 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Mappoint Control ?
Message-ID: <3C6BD610FA11044CADFC8C13E6D5508F4ECB@gbsserver.GBS.local>

Michael,
 MS says that you can't (or should not) use the Mappoint Control in VBA.
Didn't want to walk down a dead end one way street, if you know what I
mean.....

http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/default.asp?url=/library/en-us/mappoin
t2004/BIZAPIMapPointControl.asp

So let me ask you, are their any "gotcha's" working with the control in
VBA. Do you have access to the all the properties and methods in VBA?

Thanks!!!

Robert


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Michael R
Mattys
Sent: Monday, June 27, 2005 10:30 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Mappoint Control ?

Robert,

All of my work is done in A2K first.
What is it that needs to be figured out?

----

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Mattys MapLib for Microsoft MapPoint
http://www.mattysconsulting.com

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From mmattys at rochester.rr.com  Mon Jun 27 17:04:26 2005
From: mmattys at rochester.rr.com (Michael R Mattys)
Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2005 18:04:26 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Mappoint Control ?
References: <3C6BD610FA11044CADFC8C13E6D5508F4ECB@gbsserver.GBS.local>
Message-ID: <034a01c57b64$30bcc1f0$0202a8c0@default>

----- Original Message -----
From: "Robert Gracie" <robert at servicexp.com>
To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving"
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Monday, June 27, 2005 5:56 PM
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Mappoint Control ?


> Michael,
>  MS says that you can't (or should not) use the Mappoint Control in VBA.
> Didn't want to walk down a dead end one way street, if you know what I
> mean.....
>
> http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/default.asp?url=/library/en-us/mappoin
> t2004/BIZAPIMapPointControl.asp
>
> So let me ask you, are their any "gotcha's" working with the control in
> VBA. Do you have access to the all the properties and methods in VBA?
>
> Thanks!!!

Robert,

You have access to everything that the MapPoint ActiveX
provides and there are no gotcha's that I have seen after
working with it daily for over 2 years.

Set up public boolean variables to turn on and off within the
Events because the app expects to complete it's own operations
in a timely fashion - you must not interfere with them - but that
is the same in any programming environment that you put it in.

----
Michael R. Mattys
Mattys MapLib for Microsoft MapPoint
http://www.mattysconsulting.com



From newsgrps at dalyn.co.nz  Mon Jun 27 18:27:14 2005
From: newsgrps at dalyn.co.nz (David Emerson)
Date: Tue, 28 Jun 2005 11:27:14 +1200
Subject: [AccessD] Linking Graph to Report
Message-ID: <6.2.1.2.0.20050628112403.03148970@mail.dalyn.co.nz>

Access XP adp, SQL2000.

Thanks to all that responded to my previous graph problem.  I solved it by 
creating a temp table and inserted just the data required for the graphs 
into that.  Then I based the rowsource of the graph on the temp table.

Now back to my problem of last week.

I have a report with a graph on it.  The graph is to show the number of 
days it took to process client information.  Each month should have its own 
graph on a separate page.  The report's source is a stored procedure which 
provides the months as an integer in the form yyyymm.

SELECT ttmpPlanTrackGraph.ConsultPlanFranchise, ttmpPlanTrackGraph.YrMth
FROM ttmpPlanTrackGraph
GROUP BY ttmpPlanTrackGraph.ConsultPlanFranchise, ttmpPlanTrackGraph.YrMth

The graph's source is also a stored procedure which includes a field with 
the month in the same format.

SELECT ttmpPlanTrackGraph.ClientName, ttmpPlanTrackGraph.FranDays AS [Work 
Days in Fran], ttmpPlanTrackGraph.BurDays AS [Work Days in Bureau], 
ttmpPlanTrackGraph.ConsultPlanFranchise, ttmpPlanTrackGraph.YrMth
FROM ttmpPlanTrackGraph

I have set the Link Child Field and Link Master fields both to YrMth.  The 
report shows a different page for each month, however each graph shows all 
records, not just the one for the pages month.

How do I get only the relevant month's data showing on each page?

Regards

David Emerson
Dalyn Software Ltd
25 Cunliffe St, Churton Park
Wellington, New Zealand
Ph/Fax (04) 478-7456
Mobile 027-280-9348



From jmhecht at earthlink.net  Mon Jun 27 18:45:11 2005
From: jmhecht at earthlink.net (Joe Hecht)
Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2005 16:45:11 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] MS Reporting Services
Message-ID: <000901c57b72$42bdf280$6401a8c0@laptop1>

I am sending resumes again. Some one is asking for MS Reporting services.
 
What is it ?
 
Joe Hecht
Los Angeles CA
 


From newsgrps at dalyn.co.nz  Mon Jun 27 20:19:01 2005
From: newsgrps at dalyn.co.nz (David Emerson)
Date: Tue, 28 Jun 2005 13:19:01 +1200
Subject: [AccessD] Saving string > 256 chars in field
Message-ID: <6.2.1.2.0.20050628131416.02c78820@mail.dalyn.co.nz>

Access XP adp, SQL2000.

I have a field that needs to be filled with text based on the value of a 
check box.  When the check box is checked, then 1 of two tests are to be 
put into another varchar(1000) field.

However, 1 of the texts is greater than 256 characters long.  When I 
try

Me!txtCashRecommendation = strText

the first 256 characters are truncated and only the last letters appear in 
the field.

I have the latest service packs.  I can enter more than 256 characters 
directly into the field on the form.

How can I put the string into the field without it being truncated?


Regards

David Emerson
Dalyn Software Ltd
25 Cunliffe St, Churton Park
Wellington, New Zealand
Ph/Fax (04) 478-7456
Mobile 027-280-9348 



From ssharkins at bellsouth.net  Mon Jun 27 20:20:24 2005
From: ssharkins at bellsouth.net (Susan Harkins)
Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2005 21:20:24 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Saving string > 256 chars in field
In-Reply-To: <6.2.1.2.0.20050628131416.02c78820@mail.dalyn.co.nz>
Message-ID: <20050628012024.YQDQ25470.ibm57aec.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>

 I can enter more than 256 characters directly into the field on the form.

========The underlying Text field can hold only 255 characters. This is a
bound control, right?

Susan H. 



From newsgrps at dalyn.co.nz  Mon Jun 27 20:34:56 2005
From: newsgrps at dalyn.co.nz (David Emerson)
Date: Tue, 28 Jun 2005 13:34:56 +1200
Subject: [AccessD] Saving string > 256 chars in field
In-Reply-To: <20050628012024.YQDQ25470.ibm57aec.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>
References: <6.2.1.2.0.20050628131416.02c78820@mail.dalyn.co.nz>
	<20050628012024.YQDQ25470.ibm57aec.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>
Message-ID: <6.2.1.2.0.20050628133222.02c7c460@mail.dalyn.co.nz>

Yes it is bound, however the field is a nvarchar(1000).  I can manually 
type in more than 256 characters and they save ok.  It is just when I use VB.

David


At 28/06/2005, you wrote:
>  I can enter more than 256 characters directly into the field on the form.
>
>========The underlying Text field can hold only 255 characters. This is a
>bound control, right?
>
>Susan H.
>
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From ssharkins at bellsouth.net  Mon Jun 27 20:39:49 2005
From: ssharkins at bellsouth.net (Susan Harkins)
Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2005 21:39:49 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Saving string > 256 chars in field
In-Reply-To: <6.2.1.2.0.20050628133222.02c7c460@mail.dalyn.co.nz>
Message-ID: <20050628013949.JJKZ25209.ibm63aec.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>

Are you working in an .adp? 

Susan H. 

Yes it is bound, however the field is a nvarchar(1000).  I can manually type
in more than 256 characters and they save ok.  It is just when I use VB.




From newsgrps at dalyn.co.nz  Mon Jun 27 21:06:46 2005
From: newsgrps at dalyn.co.nz (David Emerson)
Date: Tue, 28 Jun 2005 14:06:46 +1200
Subject: [AccessD] Saving string > 256 chars in field
Message-ID: <6.2.1.2.0.20050628140640.02c78df0@mail.dalyn.co.nz>

Access XP adp, SQL2000.

I have a field that needs to be filled with text based on the value of a 
check box.  When the check box is checked, then 1 of two tests are to be 
put into another varchar(1000) field.

However, 1 of the texts is greater than 256 characters long.  When I 
try

Me!txtCashRecommendation = strText

the first 256 characters are truncated and only the last letters appear in 
the field.

I have the latest service packs.  I can enter more than 256 characters 
directly into the field on the form.

How can I put the string into the field without it being truncated?


Regards

David Emerson
Dalyn Software Ltd
25 Cunliffe St, Churton Park
Wellington, New Zealand
Ph/Fax (04) 478-7456
Mobile 027-280-9348 



From newsgrps at dalyn.co.nz  Mon Jun 27 21:07:36 2005
From: newsgrps at dalyn.co.nz (David Emerson)
Date: Tue, 28 Jun 2005 14:07:36 +1200
Subject: [AccessD] Saving string > 256 chars in field
Message-ID: <6.2.1.2.0.20050628140732.02c77920@mail.dalyn.co.nz>

Yes - Access XP adp, SQL2000.

David

At 28/06/2005, you wrote:
>Are you working in an .adp?
>
>Susan H.
>
>Yes it is bound, however the field is a nvarchar(1000).  I can manually type
>in more than 256 characters and they save ok.  It is just when I use VB.
>
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From dmcafee at pacbell.net  Mon Jun 27 21:21:58 2005
From: dmcafee at pacbell.net (dmcafee at pacbell.net)
Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2005 19:21:58 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Saving string > 256 chars in field
In-Reply-To: <6.2.1.2.0.20050628140732.02c77920@mail.dalyn.co.nz>
Message-ID: <KDEHKEMIOHGKCDHLPPLKIEALFGAA.dmcafee@pacbell.net>

This is a known issue. If you search the archives for Francisco Tapia name
you might find the right answer.

But if I remember correctly, you have to do your final select with that
field cast as a Text, so Access (trying to be too smart) will not truncate
what it considers a text field and then assumes it is a memo field.

David

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of David Emerson
Sent: Monday, June 27, 2005 7:08 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Saving string > 256 chars in field


Yes - Access XP adp, SQL2000.

David

At 28/06/2005, you wrote:
>Are you working in an .adp?
>
>Susan H.
>
>Yes it is bound, however the field is a nvarchar(1000).  I can manually
type
>in more than 256 characters and they save ok.  It is just when I use VB.



From newsgrps at dalyn.co.nz  Mon Jun 27 21:29:32 2005
From: newsgrps at dalyn.co.nz (David Emerson)
Date: Tue, 28 Jun 2005 14:29:32 +1200
Subject: [AccessD] Saving string > 256 chars in field
In-Reply-To: <KDEHKEMIOHGKCDHLPPLKIEALFGAA.dmcafee@pacbell.net>
References: <6.2.1.2.0.20050628140732.02c77920@mail.dalyn.co.nz>
	<KDEHKEMIOHGKCDHLPPLKIEALFGAA.dmcafee@pacbell.net>
Message-ID: <6.2.1.2.0.20050628142756.02c7e640@mail.dalyn.co.nz>

Thanks.  The archives haven't been available for the last couple of 
hours.  Will follow this up when they are back up.

David

At 28/06/2005, you wrote:
>This is a known issue. If you search the archives for Francisco Tapia name
>you might find the right answer.
>
>But if I remember correctly, you have to do your final select with that
>field cast as a Text, so Access (trying to be too smart) will not truncate
>what it considers a text field and then assumes it is a memo field.
>
>David
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of David Emerson
>Sent: Monday, June 27, 2005 7:08 PM
>To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
>Subject: RE: [AccessD] Saving string > 256 chars in field
>
>
>Yes - Access XP adp, SQL2000.
>
>David
>
>At 28/06/2005, you wrote:
> >Are you working in an .adp?
> >
> >Susan H.
> >
> >Yes it is bound, however the field is a nvarchar(1000).  I can manually
>type
> >in more than 256 characters and they save ok.  It is just when I use VB.
>
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From newsgrps at dalyn.co.nz  Mon Jun 27 22:50:58 2005
From: newsgrps at dalyn.co.nz (David Emerson)
Date: Tue, 28 Jun 2005 15:50:58 +1200
Subject: [AccessD] Saving string > 256 chars in field
In-Reply-To: <KDEHKEMIOHGKCDHLPPLKIEALFGAA.dmcafee@pacbell.net>
References: <6.2.1.2.0.20050628140732.02c77920@mail.dalyn.co.nz>
	<KDEHKEMIOHGKCDHLPPLKIEALFGAA.dmcafee@pacbell.net>
Message-ID: <6.2.1.2.0.20050628155023.02c7d180@mail.dalyn.co.nz>

I have tried the archives but cant find anything.  Francisco - can you 
remember what the subject was?

David

At 28/06/2005, you wrote:
>This is a known issue. If you search the archives for Francisco Tapia name
>you might find the right answer.
>
>But if I remember correctly, you have to do your final select with that
>field cast as a Text, so Access (trying to be too smart) will not truncate
>what it considers a text field and then assumes it is a memo field.
>
>David
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of David Emerson
>Sent: Monday, June 27, 2005 7:08 PM
>To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
>Subject: RE: [AccessD] Saving string > 256 chars in field
>
>
>Yes - Access XP adp, SQL2000.
>
>David
>
>At 28/06/2005, you wrote:
> >Are you working in an .adp?
> >
> >Susan H.
> >
> >Yes it is bound, however the field is a nvarchar(1000).  I can manually
>type
> >in more than 256 characters and they save ok.  It is just when I use VB.
>
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From accessd666 at yahoo.com  Tue Jun 28 06:44:51 2005
From: accessd666 at yahoo.com (Sad Der)
Date: Tue, 28 Jun 2005 04:44:51 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [AccessD] Multi-User ; Multi-location
Message-ID: <20050628114451.24676.qmail@web31605.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Hi group,

I've created a CRM application in Access for a single
user.
Now, off course, they want to make application
suitable for multi-users AND multi-locations.

Multi-user isn't that big a deal.
Multi-location is.

I've never dealt with a multi-location application
that exceeds the network boundries.

Does anybody have some suggestions, pitt-falls, etc
for me?
Is replication something I can use for this?

Thnx in advance!

Regards,

SD

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From carbonnb at gmail.com  Tue Jun 28 06:46:10 2005
From: carbonnb at gmail.com (Bryan Carbonnell)
Date: Tue, 28 Jun 2005 07:46:10 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Saving string > 256 chars in field
In-Reply-To: <6.2.1.2.0.20050628142756.02c7e640@mail.dalyn.co.nz>
References: <6.2.1.2.0.20050628140732.02c77920@mail.dalyn.co.nz>
	<KDEHKEMIOHGKCDHLPPLKIEALFGAA.dmcafee@pacbell.net>
	<6.2.1.2.0.20050628142756.02c7e640@mail.dalyn.co.nz>
Message-ID: <e04a6c920506280446478a5f16@mail.gmail.com>

On 6/27/05, David Emerson <newsgrps at dalyn.co.nz> wrote:
> Thanks.  The archives haven't been available for the last couple of
> hours.  Will follow this up when they are back up.

Which archives?

Drew's or the ones at databaseadvisors.com?

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preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, totally worn out,
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From jimdettman at earthlink.net  Tue Jun 28 08:31:19 2005
From: jimdettman at earthlink.net (Jim Dettman)
Date: Tue, 28 Jun 2005 09:31:19 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Multi-User ; Multi-location
In-Reply-To: <20050628114451.24676.qmail@web31605.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <NDEALJOEGMMPCDKIFGNFKEGHDLAA.jimdettman@earthlink.net>

SD,

  With JET, replication is about the only answer if large numbers involved
(hundreds).  The other solution is to park a server somewhere  and use
Terminal Services or Citrix to remote in.  I'd do that if the number of
users was lower, say 50 or less.  If more then 50, then use replication or
switch the back end to something other then JET.

Jim.



-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Sad Der
Sent: Tuesday, June 28, 2005 7:45 AM
To: Acces User Group
Subject: [AccessD] Multi-User ; Multi-location


Hi group,

I've created a CRM application in Access for a single
user.
Now, off course, they want to make application
suitable for multi-users AND multi-locations.

Multi-user isn't that big a deal.
Multi-location is.

I've never dealt with a multi-location application
that exceeds the network boundries.

Does anybody have some suggestions, pitt-falls, etc
for me?
Is replication something I can use for this?

Thnx in advance!

Regards,

SD

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From Gustav at cactus.dk  Tue Jun 28 12:01:21 2005
From: Gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Tue, 28 Jun 2005 19:01:21 +0200
Subject: [AccessD] TAPI and IP telephoning and direct call via web interface
Message-ID: <s2c19e8b.069@cactus.dk>

Hi All

We are now selling open-source Asterix PBX running on Linux and the IP
Switchboard here:

  http://ipswitchboard.thorben.dk 

With the new possibilities with IP telephoning TAPI has become much
more interesting as, of course, a TAPI driver is available for Asterix,
AstTapi:

  http://sourceforge.net/projects/asttapi/

Here is TAPI VB sample code, much info, and a demo/test application
called vbTapi.exe:

  http://www.shrinkwrapvb.com/vbtapi.htm 

Much commented source code is included here as well as a class which
should be portable to VBA.

Also, note that many (all?) IP phones do have a web interface. At that
of the Snom phones:

  http://www.snom.com

you can type a number to dial and the phone will dial this number just
like that. I guess you could wrap that into a function which could be
much simpler than the TAPI thing but with no feedback.

/gustav


From DWUTKA at marlow.com  Tue Jun 28 13:18:43 2005
From: DWUTKA at marlow.com (DWUTKA at marlow.com)
Date: Tue, 28 Jun 2005 13:18:43 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Saving string > 256 chars in field
Message-ID: <123701F54509D9119A4F00D0B747349016D7BA@main2.marlow.com>

Mine are down...will be a month or so until I have them up....

Drew

-----Original Message-----
From: Bryan Carbonnell [mailto:carbonnb at gmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, June 28, 2005 6:46 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Saving string > 256 chars in field


On 6/27/05, David Emerson <newsgrps at dalyn.co.nz> wrote:
> Thanks.  The archives haven't been available for the last couple of
> hours.  Will follow this up when they are back up.

Which archives?

Drew's or the ones at databaseadvisors.com?

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From newsgrps at dalyn.co.nz  Tue Jun 28 15:00:32 2005
From: newsgrps at dalyn.co.nz (David Emerson)
Date: Wed, 29 Jun 2005 08:00:32 +1200
Subject: [AccessD] Saving string > 256 chars in field
In-Reply-To: <123701F54509D9119A4F00D0B747349016D7BA@main2.marlow.com>
References: <123701F54509D9119A4F00D0B747349016D7BA@main2.marlow.com>
Message-ID: <6.2.1.2.0.20050629075956.02c88b70@mail.dalyn.co.nz>

It was the databaseadvisors.com website.  It was available again later in 
the day.

David

At 29/06/2005, you wrote:
>Mine are down...will be a month or so until I have them up....
>
>Drew
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Bryan Carbonnell [mailto:carbonnb at gmail.com]
>Sent: Tuesday, June 28, 2005 6:46 AM
>To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
>Subject: Re: [AccessD] Saving string > 256 chars in field
>
>
>On 6/27/05, David Emerson <newsgrps at dalyn.co.nz> wrote:
> > Thanks.  The archives haven't been available for the last couple of
> > hours.  Will follow this up when they are back up.
>
>Which archives?
>
>Drew's or the ones at databaseadvisors.com?
>
>--
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>preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, totally worn out,
>shouting "What a great ride!"
>--



From prodevmg at yahoo.com  Tue Jun 28 16:38:18 2005
From: prodevmg at yahoo.com (Lonnie Johnson)
Date: Tue, 28 Jun 2005 14:38:18 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [AccessD] Can I spell check an unbound field?
In-Reply-To: <6.2.1.2.0.20050629075956.02c88b70@mail.dalyn.co.nz>
Message-ID: <20050628213818.23178.qmail@web33112.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

I think the answer is no, but there is always a guru with a hack.
 
I have a form that is unbound. I have a large memo field and I would like to spellcheck that memo field before appending it to the actual recordset that it will go to.
 
Can it be done?



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From dwaters at usinternet.com  Tue Jun 28 17:10:41 2005
From: dwaters at usinternet.com (Dan Waters)
Date: Tue, 28 Jun 2005 15:10:41 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Can I spell check an unbound field?
In-Reply-To: <5668356.1119994458524.JavaMail.root@sniper21>
Message-ID: <000201c57c2e$3a26ac40$0518820a@danwaters>

Lonnie,

Yes!  But I'll have to get back to you in a few hours.

Dan Waters

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Lonnie Johnson
Sent: Tuesday, June 28, 2005 2:38 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: [AccessD] Can I spell check an unbound field?

I think the answer is no, but there is always a guru with a hack.
 
I have a form that is unbound. I have a large memo field and I would like to
spellcheck that memo field before appending it to the actual recordset that
it will go to.
 
Can it be done?



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ProDev, Professional Development of MS Access Databases
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From prodevmg at yahoo.com  Tue Jun 28 17:14:28 2005
From: prodevmg at yahoo.com (Lonnie Johnson)
Date: Tue, 28 Jun 2005 15:14:28 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [AccessD] Can I spell check an unbound field?
In-Reply-To: <000201c57c2e$3a26ac40$0518820a@danwaters>
Message-ID: <20050628221428.39535.qmail@web33106.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Thanks. I may have to leave this and come back to it in the morning anyway.

Dan Waters <dwaters at usinternet.com> wrote:Lonnie,

Yes! But I'll have to get back to you in a few hours.

Dan Waters

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Lonnie Johnson
Sent: Tuesday, June 28, 2005 2:38 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: [AccessD] Can I spell check an unbound field?

I think the answer is no, but there is always a guru with a hack.

I have a form that is unbound. I have a large memo field and I would like to
spellcheck that memo field before appending it to the actual recordset that
it will go to.

Can it be done?



May God bless you beyond your imagination!
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ProDev, Professional Development of MS Access Databases
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From accessd at shaw.ca  Tue Jun 28 17:17:00 2005
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Tue, 28 Jun 2005 15:17:00 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] TAPI and IP telephoning and direct call via web
	interface
In-Reply-To: <s2c19e8b.069@cactus.dk>
Message-ID: <0IIT0040HF89MD@l-daemon>

Wow, that is awesome Gustav.

It looks like some very interesting! 
 
Jim

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gustav Brock
Sent: Tuesday, June 28, 2005 10:01 AM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [AccessD] TAPI and IP telephoning and direct call via web interface

Hi All

We are now selling open-source Asterix PBX running on Linux and the IP
Switchboard here:

  http://ipswitchboard.thorben.dk 

With the new possibilities with IP telephoning TAPI has become much
more interesting as, of course, a TAPI driver is available for Asterix,
AstTapi:

  http://sourceforge.net/projects/asttapi/

Here is TAPI VB sample code, much info, and a demo/test application
called vbTapi.exe:

  http://www.shrinkwrapvb.com/vbtapi.htm 

Much commented source code is included here as well as a class which
should be portable to VBA.

Also, note that many (all?) IP phones do have a web interface. At that
of the Snom phones:

  http://www.snom.com

you can type a number to dial and the phone will dial this number just
like that. I guess you could wrap that into a function which could be
much simpler than the TAPI thing but with no feedback.

/gustav
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From darsant at gmail.com  Tue Jun 28 17:19:07 2005
From: darsant at gmail.com (Josh McFarlane)
Date: Tue, 28 Jun 2005 17:19:07 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Can I spell check an unbound field?
In-Reply-To: <20050628213818.23178.qmail@web33112.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <6.2.1.2.0.20050629075956.02c88b70@mail.dalyn.co.nz>
	<20050628213818.23178.qmail@web33112.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <53c8e05a050628151945a82603@mail.gmail.com>

On 6/28/05, Lonnie Johnson <prodevmg at yahoo.com> wrote:
> I think the answer is no, but there is always a guru with a hack.
> 
> I have a form that is unbound. I have a large memo field and I would like to spellcheck that memo field before appending it to the actual recordset that it will go to.
> 
> Can it be done?

Is there a way to do it? Yes.

However, the method I know involves creating a MicrosoftWord object
and piping the text into the document, spellchecking it in word, then
returning the mispelled words along with the suggestions. It's a lot
of hassle, and someone else might know a better way to use Access's
Spellcheck.

If you're still interested though, let me know and I'll throw some
example code up here.
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From bchacc at san.rr.com  Tue Jun 28 17:27:29 2005
From: bchacc at san.rr.com (Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software)
Date: Tue, 28 Jun 2005 15:27:29 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Can I spell check an unbound field?
References: <20050628213818.23178.qmail@web33112.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <02bd01c57c30$91ec3ce0$6701a8c0@HAL9004>

OK.  Here's my hack.  Create a table with one field.  Bind your form to that 
table (I'm assuming the form's not bound to a table already.  If so I guess 
you could add this field to the table).  Put an invisible text box on your 
form bound to that field.  In the after update event of the text box copy 
the contents of the unbound text box to the field in the table using DAO. 
Requery the form so the text is in the invisible text box.  Spell check the 
bound text box.

There's got to be an easier way.  Stand by for better ideas...

Rocky

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Lonnie Johnson" <prodevmg at yahoo.com>
To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving" 
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Tuesday, June 28, 2005 2:38 PM
Subject: [AccessD] Can I spell check an unbound field?


>I think the answer is no, but there is always a guru with a hack.
>
> I have a form that is unbound. I have a large memo field and I would like 
> to spellcheck that memo field before appending it to the actual recordset 
> that it will go to.
>
> Can it be done?
>
>
>
> May God bless you beyond your imagination!
> Lonnie Johnson
> ProDev, Professional Development of MS Access Databases
> Visit me at ==> http://www.prodev.us
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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From cfoust at infostatsystems.com  Tue Jun 28 18:12:44 2005
From: cfoust at infostatsystems.com (Charlotte Foust)
Date: Tue, 28 Jun 2005 16:12:44 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Can I spell check an unbound field?
Message-ID: <E61FC1D4B1918244905B113C680BEA86873AD8@infoserver01.infostat.local>

Public Function SpellCheckField(ctl As Control)
  'created by Charlotte Foust 3/27/2000
  'runs default spell checker on the control
  'passed into the function
  On Error Resume Next
  ctl.SelStart = 0
  ctl.SelLength = Len(ctl)
  DoCmd.RunCommand acCmdSpelling
End Function 'SpellCheckField(ctl As Control)

Charlotte Foust


-----Original Message-----
From: Lonnie Johnson [mailto:prodevmg at yahoo.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, June 28, 2005 2:38 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: [AccessD] Can I spell check an unbound field?


I think the answer is no, but there is always a guru with a hack.
 
I have a form that is unbound. I have a large memo field and I would
like to spellcheck that memo field before appending it to the actual
recordset that it will go to.
 
Can it be done?



May God bless you beyond your imagination!
Lonnie Johnson
ProDev, Professional Development of MS Access Databases
Visit me at ==> http://www.prodev.us





 





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From Developer at UltraDNT.com  Tue Jun 28 18:34:51 2005
From: Developer at UltraDNT.com (Steve Conklin (Developer@UltraDNT))
Date: Tue, 28 Jun 2005 19:34:51 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] MS Reporting Services
In-Reply-To: <000901c57b72$42bdf280$6401a8c0@laptop1>
Message-ID: <001501c57c39$fe22a2b0$640fa8c0@CONKEY2000>

They must mean MS's SQL Server Reporting Services.
www.microsoft.com/sql/reporting/default.asp 

Hth
Steve


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Joe Hecht
Sent: Monday, June 27, 2005 7:45 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] MS Reporting Services


I am sending resumes again. Some one is asking for MS Reporting
services.
 
What is it ?
 
Joe Hecht
Los Angeles CA
 
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From bheygood at abestsystems.com  Tue Jun 28 20:28:03 2005
From: bheygood at abestsystems.com (Bob Heygood)
Date: Tue, 28 Jun 2005 18:28:03 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] ole Excel in Access report
In-Reply-To: <123701F54509D9119A4F00D0B747349016D7BA@main2.marlow.com>
Message-ID: <AIEKKBIAKDJNAFGABNJKIEHBCOAA.bheygood@abestsystems.com>

Hello to the list,
I would like to display some Excel sheets in an Access report.
I have been successful in getting one page of one sheet of a workbook in an
unbound ole control.
Does someone have an example of how I can place all of a workbook including
all sheets and all pages of each sheet in my report?
This does not have to be "linked", but would be nice.
Size of the database is not a consideration, so embedding is ok.

best,

bob





From carbonnb at gmail.com  Tue Jun 28 21:42:15 2005
From: carbonnb at gmail.com (Bryan Carbonnell)
Date: Tue, 28 Jun 2005 22:42:15 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Saving string > 256 chars in field
In-Reply-To: <6.2.1.2.0.20050629075956.02c88b70@mail.dalyn.co.nz>
References: <123701F54509D9119A4F00D0B747349016D7BA@main2.marlow.com>
	<6.2.1.2.0.20050629075956.02c88b70@mail.dalyn.co.nz>
Message-ID: <e04a6c920506281942774b16d0@mail.gmail.com>

On 6/28/05, David Emerson <newsgrps at dalyn.co.nz> wrote:
> It was the databaseadvisors.com website.  It was available again later in
> the day.

Interesting. I'll see what I can see about why it was down.

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preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, totally worn out,
shouting "What a great ride!"


From dba.email at gmail.com  Wed Jun 29 07:39:34 2005
From: dba.email at gmail.com (Admin Sparky)
Date: Wed, 29 Jun 2005 08:39:34 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Shell /cmd
Message-ID: <5f2de24205062905391412a283@mail.gmail.com>

Group,

Can someone interpret this?  This line of code is behind a button on a
PowerPoint slide.  As I understand it, the purpose of the button is to
allow the user to acknowledge that they have read the material.  This
acknowledgement is tracked by an entry into a database.  What exactly
is happening here?  They are obviously checking for an Access
version...but what I'm looking for is a short explanation as to how
this line of code is shelling out to Access and making an entry into a
tracking database.  What am I missing?

Watch for major line wrap.

Thanks for any enlightenment,

Mark

<code>
Private Sub CommandButton2_Click()
    If InStr(1, Me.Application.Version, "11", vbTextCompare) Then
        Shell ("C:\Program Files\Microsoft
Office\Office11\MSAccess.exe
""G:\Quality_Plan\DocuTracker\docutracker.mdb"" /cmd
""G:\Quality_Plan\DocuTracker\E15Insight\2-10 (E12 Info).pps""")
    ElseIf InStr(1, Me.Application.Version, "10", vbTextCompare) Then
        Shell ("C:\Program Files\Microsoft
Office\Office10\MSAccess.exe
""G:\Quality_Plan\DocuTracker\docutracker.mdb"" /cmd
""G:\Quality_Plan\DocuTracker\E15Insight\2-10 (E12 Info).pps""")
    Else
        MsgBox "Old Office version. Not Recorded. Contact admin for
help.", vbCritical + vbOKOnly
    End If
    Me.Application.Quit
End Sub
</code>


From dba.email at gmail.com  Wed Jun 29 07:59:39 2005
From: dba.email at gmail.com (Admin Sparky)
Date: Wed, 29 Jun 2005 08:59:39 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Re: Shell /cmd
In-Reply-To: <5f2de24205062905391412a283@mail.gmail.com>
References: <5f2de24205062905391412a283@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <5f2de2420506290559661d15ee@mail.gmail.com>

Thanks anyway...found it.  This was one of those situations where it
didn't matter how simple the concept was...I had just never seen it or
had a need for it.

"When Microsoft Access is launched from the command line, any portion
of the command line that follows the /cmd option is passed to the
program as the command-line argument. You can use the Command function
to return the argument that has been passed."

Mark


On 6/29/05, Admin Sparky <dba.email at gmail.com> wrote:
> Group,
> 
> Can someone interpret this?  This line of code is behind a button on a
> PowerPoint slide.  As I understand it, the purpose of the button is to
> allow the user to acknowledge that they have read the material.  This
> acknowledgement is tracked by an entry into a database.  What exactly
> is happening here?  They are obviously checking for an Access
> version...but what I'm looking for is a short explanation as to how
> this line of code is shelling out to Access and making an entry into a
> tracking database.  What am I missing?
> 
> Watch for major line wrap.
> 
> Thanks for any enlightenment,
> 
> Mark
> 
> <code>
> Private Sub CommandButton2_Click()
>    If InStr(1, Me.Application.Version, "11", vbTextCompare) Then
>        Shell ("C:\Program Files\Microsoft
> Office\Office11\MSAccess.exe
> ""G:\Quality_Plan\DocuTracker\docutracker.mdb"" /cmd
> ""G:\Quality_Plan\DocuTracker\E15Insight\2-10 (E12 Info).pps""")
>    ElseIf InStr(1, Me.Application.Version, "10", vbTextCompare) Then
>        Shell ("C:\Program Files\Microsoft
> Office\Office10\MSAccess.exe
> ""G:\Quality_Plan\DocuTracker\docutracker.mdb"" /cmd
> ""G:\Quality_Plan\DocuTracker\E15Insight\2-10 (E12 Info).pps""")
>    Else
>        MsgBox "Old Office version. Not Recorded. Contact admin for
> help.", vbCritical + vbOKOnly
>    End If
>    Me.Application.Quit
> End Sub
> </code>
>


From mikedorism at verizon.net  Wed Jun 29 08:08:07 2005
From: mikedorism at verizon.net (Mike & Doris Manning)
Date: Wed, 29 Jun 2005 09:08:07 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Shell /cmd
In-Reply-To: <5f2de24205062905391412a283@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <000501c57cab$980a2260$2f01a8c0@hargrove.internal>

Check the database for an AutoExec macro that runs at startup.  You will
probably find the missing pieces there.

Doris Manning
Database Administrator
Hargrove Inc.
www.hargroveinc.com


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Admin Sparky
Sent: Wednesday, June 29, 2005 8:40 AM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [AccessD] Shell /cmd


Group,

Can someone interpret this?  This line of code is behind a button on a
PowerPoint slide.  As I understand it, the purpose of the button is to allow
the user to acknowledge that they have read the material.  This
acknowledgement is tracked by an entry into a database.  What exactly is
happening here?  They are obviously checking for an Access version...but
what I'm looking for is a short explanation as to how this line of code is
shelling out to Access and making an entry into a tracking database.  What
am I missing?

Watch for major line wrap.

Thanks for any enlightenment,

Mark

<code>
Private Sub CommandButton2_Click()
    If InStr(1, Me.Application.Version, "11", vbTextCompare) Then
        Shell ("C:\Program Files\Microsoft Office\Office11\MSAccess.exe
""G:\Quality_Plan\DocuTracker\docutracker.mdb"" /cmd
""G:\Quality_Plan\DocuTracker\E15Insight\2-10 (E12 Info).pps""")
    ElseIf InStr(1, Me.Application.Version, "10", vbTextCompare) Then
        Shell ("C:\Program Files\Microsoft Office\Office10\MSAccess.exe
""G:\Quality_Plan\DocuTracker\docutracker.mdb"" /cmd
""G:\Quality_Plan\DocuTracker\E15Insight\2-10 (E12 Info).pps""")
    Else
        MsgBox "Old Office version. Not Recorded. Contact admin for help.",
vbCritical + vbOKOnly
    End If
    Me.Application.Quit
End Sub
</code>
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From John.Clark at niagaracounty.com  Wed Jun 29 08:34:56 2005
From: John.Clark at niagaracounty.com (John Clark)
Date: Wed, 29 Jun 2005 09:34:56 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Changing table values via code
Message-ID: <s2c26b91.049@nebnov3.niagaracounty.com>

Hi everybody...long time since I've asked a question here, but I find
myself needing help again.

I am working on a db for a payroll dept. One of the things I need to do
for them is to keep a running total for time off. Basically each
employee will have a record in a table with fields for vacation,
personal, sick, etc., and I need to do two things with these numbers. I
need to add to these totals at the beginning of each years, as they earn
more time. And, I need to subtract from these totals as they use their
time. So, when a payroll clerk enters a value of 7 hrs vacation for an
employee on a given day, I need to subtract seven from their total
vacation hours.

Both of these will be done via code, at the time of the change, but I
have never done this before. I would appreciate any direction you could
offer.

Thank you


John W Clark


From darsant at gmail.com  Wed Jun 29 08:44:37 2005
From: darsant at gmail.com (Josh McFarlane)
Date: Wed, 29 Jun 2005 08:44:37 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Changing table values via code
In-Reply-To: <s2c26b91.049@nebnov3.niagaracounty.com>
References: <s2c26b91.049@nebnov3.niagaracounty.com>
Message-ID: <53c8e05a050629064429623988@mail.gmail.com>

On 6/29/05, John Clark <John.Clark at niagaracounty.com> wrote:
> Hi everybody...long time since I've asked a question here, but I find
> myself needing help again.
> 
> I am working on a db for a payroll dept. One of the things I need to do
> for them is to keep a running total for time off. Basically each
> employee will have a record in a table with fields for vacation,
> personal, sick, etc., and I need to do two things with these numbers. I
> need to add to these totals at the beginning of each years, as they earn
> more time. And, I need to subtract from these totals as they use their
> time. So, when a payroll clerk enters a value of 7 hrs vacation for an
> employee on a given day, I need to subtract seven from their total
> vacation hours.
> 
> Both of these will be done via code, at the time of the change, but I
> have never done this before. I would appreciate any direction you could
> offer.

Well, it depends on how you're looking to do it, but you can
self-reference to get the effect you're looking for in the format of X
= X - Y

rs.Fields("VacationTime") = rs.Fields("VacationTime") - nhoursUsed
or if you have both values form named nVacationTime (bound) and
nHoursUsed (could be unbound or bound)
nVacationTime = nVacationTime - nHoursUsed
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From cyx5 at cdc.gov  Wed Jun 29 08:47:32 2005
From: cyx5 at cdc.gov (Nicholson, Karen)
Date: Wed, 29 Jun 2005 09:47:32 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Changing table values via code
Message-ID: <A5B5AA20555F594BA7B6BD2048E49E4376FB05@m-niosh-5.niosh.cdc.gov>

Is there a reason why you need to store a calculated field in a field?
Does this need to be displayed on a form?  On a report? 

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of John Clark
Sent: Wednesday, June 29, 2005 9:35 AM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [AccessD] Changing table values via code

Hi everybody...long time since I've asked a question here, but I find
myself needing help again.

I am working on a db for a payroll dept. One of the things I need to do
for them is to keep a running total for time off. Basically each
employee will have a record in a table with fields for vacation,
personal, sick, etc., and I need to do two things with these numbers. I
need to add to these totals at the beginning of each years, as they earn
more time. And, I need to subtract from these totals as they use their
time. So, when a payroll clerk enters a value of 7 hrs vacation for an
employee on a given day, I need to subtract seven from their total
vacation hours.

Both of these will be done via code, at the time of the change, but I
have never done this before. I would appreciate any direction you could
offer.

Thank you


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From John.Clark at niagaracounty.com  Wed Jun 29 09:05:21 2005
From: John.Clark at niagaracounty.com (John Clark)
Date: Wed, 29 Jun 2005 10:05:21 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Changing table values via code
Message-ID: <s2c272bc.012@nebnov3.niagaracounty.com>

I just need to keep a running tally of time off. An employee may call up
and say, "How much vacation time do I have?" They need to look this up
and give a quick answer. Also, yes, I will be putting these on a
report(s), as well.

>>> cyx5 at cdc.gov 6/29/2005 9:47:32 AM >>>
Is there a reason why you need to store a calculated field in a field?
Does this need to be displayed on a form?  On a report? 

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com 
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of John Clark
Sent: Wednesday, June 29, 2005 9:35 AM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com 
Subject: [AccessD] Changing table values via code

Hi everybody...long time since I've asked a question here, but I find
myself needing help again.

I am working on a db for a payroll dept. One of the things I need to
do
for them is to keep a running total for time off. Basically each
employee will have a record in a table with fields for vacation,
personal, sick, etc., and I need to do two things with these numbers.
I
need to add to these totals at the beginning of each years, as they
earn
more time. And, I need to subtract from these totals as they use their
time. So, when a payroll clerk enters a value of 7 hrs vacation for an
employee on a given day, I need to subtract seven from their total
vacation hours.

Both of these will be done via code, at the time of the change, but I
have never done this before. I would appreciate any direction you
could
offer.

Thank you


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From cyx5 at cdc.gov  Wed Jun 29 09:10:28 2005
From: cyx5 at cdc.gov (Nicholson, Karen)
Date: Wed, 29 Jun 2005 10:10:28 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Changing table values via code
Message-ID: <A5B5AA20555F594BA7B6BD2048E49E4376FB08@m-niosh-5.niosh.cdc.gov>

Put it in a query, grouping my employeeid, totalling by hours offered
and hours taken. 

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of John Clark
Sent: Wednesday, June 29, 2005 10:05 AM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Changing table values via code

I just need to keep a running tally of time off. An employee may call up
and say, "How much vacation time do I have?" They need to look this up
and give a quick answer. Also, yes, I will be putting these on a
report(s), as well.

>>> cyx5 at cdc.gov 6/29/2005 9:47:32 AM >>>
Is there a reason why you need to store a calculated field in a field?
Does this need to be displayed on a form?  On a report? 

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of John Clark
Sent: Wednesday, June 29, 2005 9:35 AM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [AccessD] Changing table values via code

Hi everybody...long time since I've asked a question here, but I find
myself needing help again.

I am working on a db for a payroll dept. One of the things I need to do
for them is to keep a running total for time off. Basically each
employee will have a record in a table with fields for vacation,
personal, sick, etc., and I need to do two things with these numbers.
I
need to add to these totals at the beginning of each years, as they earn
more time. And, I need to subtract from these totals as they use their
time. So, when a payroll clerk enters a value of 7 hrs vacation for an
employee on a given day, I need to subtract seven from their total
vacation hours.

Both of these will be done via code, at the time of the change, but I
have never done this before. I would appreciate any direction you could
offer.

Thank you


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From paul.hartland at fsmail.net  Wed Jun 29 09:36:38 2005
From: paul.hartland at fsmail.net (paul.hartland at fsmail.net)
Date: Wed, 29 Jun 2005 16:36:38 +0200 (CEST)
Subject: [AccessD] Fastest Way To Get Data Field From Recordset
Message-ID: <1029086.1120055798615.JavaMail.www@wwinf3002>

To all,

I have taken over a project and where I would normally use something like

strMinPayroll = rsMinPayroll.Fields("LowPayrollNo")

it is written as

strMinPayroll = rsMinPayroll!LowPayroll

Is there a difference in speed with these, i.e. is one more efficient than the other etc....

Thanks in advance for any help on this...

Paul Hartland

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From jimdettman at earthlink.net  Wed Jun 29 09:44:10 2005
From: jimdettman at earthlink.net (Jim Dettman)
Date: Wed, 29 Jun 2005 10:44:10 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Changing table values via code
In-Reply-To: <A5B5AA20555F594BA7B6BD2048E49E4376FB08@m-niosh-5.niosh.cdc.gov>
Message-ID: <NDEALJOEGMMPCDKIFGNFOENDDLAA.jimdettman@earthlink.net>


  I'd second that.  Definitely keep a record of hours earned and hours used.
When someone doesn't like the answer they get on what's left,  your going to
need that detail<g>.

  Now although it's considered a no-no, you may want keep a summary field in
a record and update that every time you write a record into the above table.

 The approach I like to use though is to always generate a balance by
totaling the records, but include the ability to store a "balance forward"
record when a purge is done.  The balance forward record is a summary of the
purged detail.  This allows a client to purge the table when performance
issues start to creep in, but still maintain a sound relational design.

Jim.

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Nicholson,
Karen
Sent: Wednesday, June 29, 2005 10:10 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Changing table values via code


Put it in a query, grouping my employeeid, totalling by hours offered
and hours taken.

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of John Clark
Sent: Wednesday, June 29, 2005 10:05 AM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Changing table values via code

I just need to keep a running tally of time off. An employee may call up
and say, "How much vacation time do I have?" They need to look this up
and give a quick answer. Also, yes, I will be putting these on a
report(s), as well.

>>> cyx5 at cdc.gov 6/29/2005 9:47:32 AM >>>
Is there a reason why you need to store a calculated field in a field?
Does this need to be displayed on a form?  On a report?

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of John Clark
Sent: Wednesday, June 29, 2005 9:35 AM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [AccessD] Changing table values via code

Hi everybody...long time since I've asked a question here, but I find
myself needing help again.

I am working on a db for a payroll dept. One of the things I need to do
for them is to keep a running total for time off. Basically each
employee will have a record in a table with fields for vacation,
personal, sick, etc., and I need to do two things with these numbers.
I
need to add to these totals at the beginning of each years, as they earn
more time. And, I need to subtract from these totals as they use their
time. So, when a payroll clerk enters a value of 7 hrs vacation for an
employee on a given day, I need to subtract seven from their total
vacation hours.

Both of these will be done via code, at the time of the change, but I
have never done this before. I would appreciate any direction you could
offer.

Thank you


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From cfoust at infostatsystems.com  Wed Jun 29 09:46:47 2005
From: cfoust at infostatsystems.com (Charlotte Foust)
Date: Wed, 29 Jun 2005 07:46:47 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Fastest Way To Get Data Field From Recordset
Message-ID: <E61FC1D4B1918244905B113C680BEA86873AD9@infoserver01.infostat.local>

The first option  is the slowest way.

Charlotte Foust


-----Original Message-----
From: paul.hartland at fsmail.net [mailto:paul.hartland at fsmail.net] 
Sent: Wednesday, June 29, 2005 7:37 AM
To: accessd
Subject: [AccessD] Fastest Way To Get Data Field From Recordset


To all,

I have taken over a project and where I would normally use something
like

strMinPayroll = rsMinPayroll.Fields("LowPayrollNo")

it is written as

strMinPayroll = rsMinPayroll!LowPayroll

Is there a difference in speed with these, i.e. is one more efficient
than the other etc....

Thanks in advance for any help on this...

Paul Hartland

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From dwaters at usinternet.com  Wed Jun 29 09:47:16 2005
From: dwaters at usinternet.com (Dan Waters)
Date: Wed, 29 Jun 2005 07:47:16 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Can I spell check an unbound field?
In-Reply-To: <10044712.1119996830027.JavaMail.root@sniper14>
Message-ID: <000001c57cb9$725cde50$0718820a@danwaters>

Lonnie, 

Charlotte's code is what I was going to suggest.

Dan Waters


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Dan Waters
Sent: Tuesday, June 28, 2005 3:11 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Can I spell check an unbound field?

Lonnie,

Yes!  But I'll have to get back to you in a few hours.

Dan Waters

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Lonnie Johnson
Sent: Tuesday, June 28, 2005 2:38 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: [AccessD] Can I spell check an unbound field?

I think the answer is no, but there is always a guru with a hack.
 
I have a form that is unbound. I have a large memo field and I would like to
spellcheck that memo field before appending it to the actual recordset that
it will go to.
 
Can it be done?



May God bless you beyond your imagination!
Lonnie Johnson
ProDev, Professional Development of MS Access Databases
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From Chris.Foote at uk.thalesgroup.com  Wed Jun 29 09:50:49 2005
From: Chris.Foote at uk.thalesgroup.com (Foote, Chris)
Date: Wed, 29 Jun 2005 15:50:49 +0100
Subject: [AccessD] Fastest Way To Get Data Field From Recordset
Message-ID: <97CF276BD8C6D4119C4B00508BB18DE709E0C7F7@ntscxch1.int.rdel.co.uk>


But it presumably will not die if someone has (cough) used a space in the
name Charlotte?

Regards
Chris Foote - UK


> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Charlotte
> Foust
> Sent: Wednesday, June 29, 2005 3:47 PM
> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> Subject: RE: [AccessD] Fastest Way To Get Data Field From Recordset
> 
> 
> The first option  is the slowest way.
> 
> Charlotte Foust
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: paul.hartland at fsmail.net [mailto:paul.hartland at fsmail.net] 
> Sent: Wednesday, June 29, 2005 7:37 AM
> To: accessd
> Subject: [AccessD] Fastest Way To Get Data Field From Recordset
> 
> 
> To all,
> 
> I have taken over a project and where I would normally use something
> like
> 
> strMinPayroll = rsMinPayroll.Fields("LowPayrollNo")
> 
> it is written as
> 
> strMinPayroll = rsMinPayroll!LowPayroll
> 
> Is there a difference in speed with these, i.e. is one more efficient
> than the other etc....
> 
> Thanks in advance for any help on this...
> 
> Paul Hartland


From paul.hartland at fsmail.net  Wed Jun 29 09:55:37 2005
From: paul.hartland at fsmail.net (paul.hartland at fsmail.net)
Date: Wed, 29 Jun 2005 16:55:37 +0200 (CEST)
Subject: [AccessD] Fastest Way To Get Data Field From Recordset
Message-ID: <5968352.1120056937594.JavaMail.www@wwinf3002>

I think you get round that by using the square brakcets rsMinPayroll![LowPayroll]





Message date : Jun 29 2005, 03:53 PM
>From : "Foote, Chris" 
To : "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'" 
Copy to : 
Subject : RE: [AccessD] Fastest Way To Get Data Field From Recordset

But it presumably will not die if someone has (cough) used a space in the
name Charlotte?

Regards
Chris Foote - UK


> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Charlotte
> Foust
> Sent: Wednesday, June 29, 2005 3:47 PM
> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> Subject: RE: [AccessD] Fastest Way To Get Data Field From Recordset
> 
> 
> The first option is the slowest way.
> 
> Charlotte Foust
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: paul.hartland at fsmail.net [mailto:paul.hartland at fsmail.net] 
> Sent: Wednesday, June 29, 2005 7:37 AM
> To: accessd
> Subject: [AccessD] Fastest Way To Get Data Field From Recordset
> 
> 
> To all,
> 
> I have taken over a project and where I would normally use something
> like
> 
> strMinPayroll = rsMinPayroll.Fields("LowPayrollNo")
> 
> it is written as
> 
> strMinPayroll = rsMinPayroll!LowPayroll
> 
> Is there a difference in speed with these, i.e. is one more efficient
> than the other etc....
> 
> Thanks in advance for any help on this...
> 
> Paul Hartland
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From rl_stewart at highstream.net  Wed Jun 29 09:58:43 2005
From: rl_stewart at highstream.net (Robert L. Stewart)
Date: Wed, 29 Jun 2005 09:58:43 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Re: Normalizing issue
In-Reply-To: <200506281700.j5SH0ER29043@databaseadvisors.com>
References: <200506281700.j5SH0ER29043@databaseadvisors.com>
Message-ID: <6.2.1.2.2.20050629095814.03357d20@pop3.highstream.net>

I thought that was what I said. :-)

At 12:00 PM 6/28/2005, you wrote:
>Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2005 16:35:57 -0400
>From: "Susan Harkins" <ssharkins at bellsouth.net>
>Subject: RE: [AccessD] Re: Normalizing issue
>To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'"
>         <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
>Message-ID: <20050627203557.KNJH29052.ibm68aec.bellsouth.net at SUSANONE>
>Content-Type: text/plain;       charset="US-ASCII"
>
>I think I've decided on a simple "people" table -- with a mtm related table
>that describes their role in any publication. Seems to make the most sense
>at this point.
>
>Susan H.
>
>Or, you could add a table for related parties and carry their role in that
>table.  Then you can get all the co-authors and illustrators, reviewers,
>etc.
>
>tblPublicationRelatedParty
>PublicationRelatedPartyID
>PublicationID
>PartyID
>RoleID




From rl_stewart at highstream.net  Wed Jun 29 09:59:49 2005
From: rl_stewart at highstream.net (Robert L. Stewart)
Date: Wed, 29 Jun 2005 09:59:49 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Re: MS Reporting Services
In-Reply-To: <200506281700.j5SH0ER29043@databaseadvisors.com>
References: <200506281700.j5SH0ER29043@databaseadvisors.com>
Message-ID: <6.2.1.2.2.20050629095902.03357a90@pop3.highstream.net>

Joe,

It is an addition onto SQL Server. You need to use .Net to be able to take 
advantage of it.

Robert

At 12:00 PM 6/28/2005, you wrote:
>Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2005 16:45:11 -0700
>From: "Joe Hecht" <jmhecht at earthlink.net>
>Subject: [AccessD] MS Reporting Services
>To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'"
>         <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
>Message-ID: <000901c57b72$42bdf280$6401a8c0 at laptop1>
>Content-Type: text/plain;       charset="us-ascii"
>
>I am sending resumes again. Some one is asking for MS Reporting services.
>
>What is it ?
>
>Joe Hecht




From DWUTKA at marlow.com  Wed Jun 29 10:00:52 2005
From: DWUTKA at marlow.com (DWUTKA at marlow.com)
Date: Wed, 29 Jun 2005 10:00:52 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Changing table values via code
Message-ID: <123701F54509D9119A4F00D0B747349016D7C2@main2.marlow.com>

Just a thought John, but I would recommend that you don't actually change a
value in a record to do this.  Instead, make it a transaction table.  For
example:

tblVacationHours
VHTransactionID (AutoNumber)
EmployeeID (foriegn key)
NumberOfHours (Long, or Currency if there could be hour 'portions')
TransactionTimeStamp (Date/Time)

Now, you could add a third field that would determine the type of
transaction, ie, a credit or a debit, or you could simply use positive or
negative values for the NumberOfHours fields.  Either way, to determine the
employees total current number of vacation hours, simply sum NumberOfHours
for their Employee ID.  I would strongly recommend this method, because if
you simply allow someone to change a value, there is no record of what was
changed.  So if a payroll clerk goofs and removes an extra day or two, there
is no record to see what it was before, and when it was changed.  With a
transaction log (which is summed for the totals), you can see what was
entered, and when, so when someone took a Monday off, and the transaction
shows 80 hours, instead of 8, you can simply fix that transaction, or add
new transactions to compensate.

Drew

-----Original Message-----
From: John Clark [mailto:John.Clark at niagaracounty.com]
Sent: Wednesday, June 29, 2005 8:35 AM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [AccessD] Changing table values via code


Hi everybody...long time since I've asked a question here, but I find
myself needing help again.

I am working on a db for a payroll dept. One of the things I need to do
for them is to keep a running total for time off. Basically each
employee will have a record in a table with fields for vacation,
personal, sick, etc., and I need to do two things with these numbers. I
need to add to these totals at the beginning of each years, as they earn
more time. And, I need to subtract from these totals as they use their
time. So, when a payroll clerk enters a value of 7 hrs vacation for an
employee on a given day, I need to subtract seven from their total
vacation hours.

Both of these will be done via code, at the time of the change, but I
have never done this before. I would appreciate any direction you could
offer.

Thank you


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From john at winhaven.net  Wed Jun 29 10:13:22 2005
From: john at winhaven.net (John Bartow)
Date: Wed, 29 Jun 2005 10:13:22 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Publish it with  MS Word
Message-ID: <200506291513.j5TFDPlw301022@pimout4-ext.prodigy.net>

I need a quick one here...
 
I have to add a command button to an old A97 app that will output a report
right into to Word (rtf).
 
I can't find my code snippet for doing the "Publish it with MS Word" in VBA.
 
Anyone have it handy?
 
TIA
John B.
 



From artful at rogers.com  Wed Jun 29 10:27:36 2005
From: artful at rogers.com (Arthur Fuller)
Date: Wed, 29 Jun 2005 11:27:36 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] MS Reporting Services
In-Reply-To: <000901c57b72$42bdf280$6401a8c0@laptop1>
Message-ID: <200506291527.j5TFRcR03483@databaseadvisors.com>

You can download it from MS. Think of it as an Object-Oriented report writer
designed for use with the DotNET stuff (and others). It is seriously
powerful and a long way past the Access report tool, IMO. But report writers
are in a sense pretty much all the same, especially at the lower levels.
Where they begin to differ, and shine, is in the difficult stuff. You should
grab a copy from MS and take it for a spin. From your previous posts I am
confident that MS-RS will take you about a day to master.

A.



-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Joe Hecht
Sent: June 27, 2005 7:45 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] MS Reporting Services

I am sending resumes again. Some one is asking for MS Reporting services.
 
What is it ?
 
Joe Hecht
Los Angeles CA
 
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From cfoust at infostatsystems.com  Wed Jun 29 10:36:29 2005
From: cfoust at infostatsystems.com (Charlotte Foust)
Date: Wed, 29 Jun 2005 08:36:29 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Fastest Way To Get Data Field From Recordset
Message-ID: <E61FC1D4B1918244905B113C680BEA86873ADC@infoserver01.infostat.local>

If they do, they should be Colbyized! <g>

Charlotte Foust


-----Original Message-----
From: Foote, Chris [mailto:Chris.Foote at uk.thalesgroup.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, June 29, 2005 7:51 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Fastest Way To Get Data Field From Recordset



But it presumably will not die if someone has (cough) used a space in
the name Charlotte?

Regards
Chris Foote - UK


> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Charlotte 
> Foust
> Sent: Wednesday, June 29, 2005 3:47 PM
> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> Subject: RE: [AccessD] Fastest Way To Get Data Field From Recordset
> 
> 
> The first option  is the slowest way.
> 
> Charlotte Foust
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: paul.hartland at fsmail.net [mailto:paul.hartland at fsmail.net]
> Sent: Wednesday, June 29, 2005 7:37 AM
> To: accessd
> Subject: [AccessD] Fastest Way To Get Data Field From Recordset
> 
> 
> To all,
> 
> I have taken over a project and where I would normally use something 
> like
> 
> strMinPayroll = rsMinPayroll.Fields("LowPayrollNo")
> 
> it is written as
> 
> strMinPayroll = rsMinPayroll!LowPayroll
> 
> Is there a difference in speed with these, i.e. is one more efficient 
> than the other etc....
> 
> Thanks in advance for any help on this...
> 
> Paul Hartland
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From artful at rogers.com  Wed Jun 29 10:41:49 2005
From: artful at rogers.com (Arthur Fuller)
Date: Wed, 29 Jun 2005 11:41:49 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Can I spell check an unbound field?
In-Reply-To: <E61FC1D4B1918244905B113C680BEA86873AD8@infoserver01.infostat.local>
Message-ID: <200506291541.j5TFfiR06762@databaseadvisors.com>

You a slick chick, Charlotte! Very nice!

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Charlotte Foust
Sent: June 28, 2005 7:13 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Can I spell check an unbound field?

Public Function SpellCheckField(ctl As Control)
  'created by Charlotte Foust 3/27/2000
  'runs default spell checker on the control
  'passed into the function
  On Error Resume Next
  ctl.SelStart = 0
  ctl.SelLength = Len(ctl)
  DoCmd.RunCommand acCmdSpelling
End Function 'SpellCheckField(ctl As Control)

Charlotte Foust


-----Original Message-----
From: Lonnie Johnson [mailto:prodevmg at yahoo.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, June 28, 2005 2:38 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: [AccessD] Can I spell check an unbound field?


I think the answer is no, but there is always a guru with a hack.
 
I have a form that is unbound. I have a large memo field and I would
like to spellcheck that memo field before appending it to the actual
recordset that it will go to.
 
Can it be done?



May God bless you beyond your imagination!
Lonnie Johnson
ProDev, Professional Development of MS Access Databases
Visit me at ==> http://www.prodev.us





 





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From cfoust at infostatsystems.com  Wed Jun 29 10:44:55 2005
From: cfoust at infostatsystems.com (Charlotte Foust)
Date: Wed, 29 Jun 2005 08:44:55 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Publish it with  MS Word
Message-ID: <E61FC1D4B1918244905B113C680BEA86873ADD@infoserver01.infostat.local>

>From the Help file:

The following example outputs the Employees table in rich-text format
(.rtf) to the Employee.rtf file and immediately opens the file in
Microsoft Word for Windows.

DoCmd.OutputTo acOutputTable, "Employees", _
    acFormatRTF, "Employee.rtf", True


Charlotte Foust


-----Original Message-----
From: John Bartow [mailto:john at winhaven.net] 
Sent: Wednesday, June 29, 2005 8:13 AM
To: _DBA-Access
Subject: [AccessD] Publish it with MS Word


I need a quick one here...
 
I have to add a command button to an old A97 app that will output a
report right into to Word (rtf).
 
I can't find my code snippet for doing the "Publish it with MS Word" in
VBA.
 
Anyone have it handy?
 
TIA
John B.
 

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From cfoust at infostatsystems.com  Wed Jun 29 11:45:18 2005
From: cfoust at infostatsystems.com (Charlotte Foust)
Date: Wed, 29 Jun 2005 09:45:18 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Can I spell check an unbound field?
Message-ID: <E61FC1D4B1918244905B113C680BEA86873ADF@infoserver01.infostat.local>

<blush>

Charlotte Foust


-----Original Message-----
From: Arthur Fuller [mailto:artful at rogers.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, June 29, 2005 8:42 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Can I spell check an unbound field?


You a slick chick, Charlotte! Very nice!

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Charlotte
Foust
Sent: June 28, 2005 7:13 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Can I spell check an unbound field?

Public Function SpellCheckField(ctl As Control)
  'created by Charlotte Foust 3/27/2000
  'runs default spell checker on the control
  'passed into the function
  On Error Resume Next
  ctl.SelStart = 0
  ctl.SelLength = Len(ctl)
  DoCmd.RunCommand acCmdSpelling
End Function 'SpellCheckField(ctl As Control)

Charlotte Foust


-----Original Message-----
From: Lonnie Johnson [mailto:prodevmg at yahoo.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, June 28, 2005 2:38 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: [AccessD] Can I spell check an unbound field?


I think the answer is no, but there is always a guru with a hack.
 
I have a form that is unbound. I have a large memo field and I would
like to spellcheck that memo field before appending it to the actual
recordset that it will go to.
 
Can it be done?



May God bless you beyond your imagination!
Lonnie Johnson
ProDev, Professional Development of MS Access Databases
Visit me at ==> http://www.prodev.us





 





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From jmhecht at earthlink.net  Wed Jun 29 12:02:31 2005
From: jmhecht at earthlink.net (Joe Hecht)
Date: Wed, 29 Jun 2005 10:02:31 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Can I spell check an unbound field?
In-Reply-To: <200506291541.j5TFfiR06762@databaseadvisors.com>
Message-ID: <000001c57ccc$56bff340$6401a8c0@laptop1>

Second


Joe Hecht
Los Angeles CA

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Arthur Fuller
Sent: Wednesday, June 29, 2005 8:42 AM
To: access at joe2.endjunk.com; 'Access Developers discussion and problem
solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Can I spell check an unbound field?

You a slick chick, Charlotte! Very nice!

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Charlotte Foust
Sent: June 28, 2005 7:13 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Can I spell check an unbound field?

Public Function SpellCheckField(ctl As Control)
  'created by Charlotte Foust 3/27/2000
  'runs default spell checker on the control
  'passed into the function
  On Error Resume Next
  ctl.SelStart = 0
  ctl.SelLength = Len(ctl)
  DoCmd.RunCommand acCmdSpelling
End Function 'SpellCheckField(ctl As Control)

Charlotte Foust


-----Original Message-----
From: Lonnie Johnson [mailto:prodevmg at yahoo.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, June 28, 2005 2:38 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: [AccessD] Can I spell check an unbound field?


I think the answer is no, but there is always a guru with a hack.
 
I have a form that is unbound. I have a large memo field and I would
like to spellcheck that memo field before appending it to the actual
recordset that it will go to.
 
Can it be done?



May God bless you beyond your imagination!
Lonnie Johnson
ProDev, Professional Development of MS Access Databases
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From Lambert.Heenan at AIG.com  Wed Jun 29 12:21:16 2005
From: Lambert.Heenan at AIG.com (Heenan, Lambert)
Date: Wed, 29 Jun 2005 13:21:16 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Fastest Way To Get Data Field From Recordset
Message-ID: <1D7828CDB8350747AFE9D69E0E90DA1F1223BE60@xlivmbx21.aig.com>

How slow is slow?

There are at least three ways to access a field in a recordset via VB.

Rs!FieldName
Rs.Fields("FieldName")  and
Rs("FieldName")

Each of these in turn has two variations. You can use
	Rs.this
	Rs.that
	Rs.thenextthing

Or you can write 
	With Rs
		.this
		.that
		.thenextthing
	End With

The use of With / End With used to be recommended by MS as when you
referenced the Rs object Access would apparently refresh its collections,
including the collection of recordsets, and this slowed execution. Using
with/end with cuts the number of references to Rs down to one. It also
reduces the amount of typing that has to be done.

However. I just did some testing in Access 2002, and is seems the alleged
speed benefit of with/end with does not happen. Perhaps the whole collection
refresh issue has been fixed now. Which leaves us with the question of which
syntax *is* faster?  I ran some tests and the results suggest that it does
not make any damned difference. See below...

The code that produces these results simply opens a recordset and then
accesses each record in turn, pulling the value of one field from each
record.

NOT using With Rs
-----------------
1/ Using Rs.Fields('FieldName')
Time to access 683200 records: 4.414063 Seconds
-----------------
2/ Using Rs!FieldName
Time to access 683200 records: 4.4375 Seconds
-----------------
3/ Using With and .Fields('FieldName')
Time to access 683200 records: 4.347656 Seconds
-----------------
4/ Using With and rs('FieldName')
Time to access 683200 records: 4.425781 Seconds
-----------------
5/ Using With and rs!FieldName
Time to access 683200 records: 4.34375 Seconds

So when looping through 680k records it seems like only a few milliseconds
are available to be gained. If you only want to look at one record in a
piece of code then we are approaching quibbling over nanoseconds.

Lambert

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Charlotte Foust
Sent: Wednesday, June 29, 2005 10:47 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Fastest Way To Get Data Field From Recordset


The first option  is the slowest way.

Charlotte Foust


-----Original Message-----
From: paul.hartland at fsmail.net [mailto:paul.hartland at fsmail.net] 
Sent: Wednesday, June 29, 2005 7:37 AM
To: accessd
Subject: [AccessD] Fastest Way To Get Data Field From Recordset


To all,

I have taken over a project and where I would normally use something like

strMinPayroll = rsMinPayroll.Fields("LowPayrollNo")

it is written as

strMinPayroll = rsMinPayroll!LowPayroll

Is there a difference in speed with these, i.e. is one more efficient than
the other etc....

Thanks in advance for any help on this...

Paul Hartland

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From john at winhaven.net  Wed Jun 29 14:53:24 2005
From: john at winhaven.net (John Bartow)
Date: Wed, 29 Jun 2005 14:53:24 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Publish it with  MS Word
In-Reply-To: <E61FC1D4B1918244905B113C680BEA86873ADD@infoserver01.infostat.local>
Message-ID: <200506291953.j5TJrSGY138252@pimout1-ext.prodigy.net>

Thanks Charlotte,

That got me where I needed to go. I'm really rushed right now and even with
the good 'ol A97 help it doesn't work well when you're under extreme
pressure!

John B. 

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Charlotte Foust
Sent: Wednesday, June 29, 2005 10:45 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Publish it with MS Word

>From the Help file:

The following example outputs the Employees table in rich-text format
(.rtf) to the Employee.rtf file and immediately opens the file in Microsoft
Word for Windows.

DoCmd.OutputTo acOutputTable, "Employees", _
    acFormatRTF, "Employee.rtf", True


Charlotte Foust


-----Original Message-----
From: John Bartow [mailto:john at winhaven.net]
Sent: Wednesday, June 29, 2005 8:13 AM
To: _DBA-Access
Subject: [AccessD] Publish it with MS Word


I need a quick one here...
 
I have to add a command button to an old A97 app that will output a
report right into to Word (rtf).
 
I can't find my code snippet for doing the "Publish it with MS Word" in
VBA.
 
Anyone have it handy?
 
TIA
John B.
 

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From Jim.Hale at FleetPride.com  Wed Jun 29 14:58:58 2005
From: Jim.Hale at FleetPride.com (Hale, Jim)
Date: Wed, 29 Jun 2005 14:58:58 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Storing variable names in a table
Message-ID: <6A6AA9DF57E4F046BDA1E273BDDB67723376AA@corp-es01.fleetpride.com>

In a class I have created a method that reads query names from a table and
opens the appropriate record sets. There may be any number of queries that
are run by a single method call. For parameter queries life is more
complicated. I created a method which loads the variables into a ParmArray
and then sets the query parameters to the correct variable. The problem with
this is I can only run one parameter query at a time from my method. a
typical call looks like:

'set parameter values
 Call Xcel.QryParmValues(strareacode, intCo, "AreaActSummaryACT", "dept1",
.Worksheets(y).Range("a11"))
' read query names from table and open the recorsets.
    Xcel.MultiplePasteExcel (119)

119 is the case number so the method knows which the query names to pull
from a table. Ideally I would like to store all the parameters for all the
queries in a table and extract them as needed.  "AreaActSummaryACT", and
"dept1" are no problem since they are strings. What I don't know how to do
is store variable names such as strareacode, intCo as strings in a table and
then assign them the correct value from the procedure all this is running
in. Worksheets(y).Range("a11")) will also be a challenge to store in a table
(it picks up the parameter value from an Excel worksheet) but I may be able
use eval() to create the correct value. If I can solve these problems I will
be able to populate Excel workbooks with one method call since all the info
needed to create recordsets with data to paste into worksheets will reside
in a table. If I can't store the variable names in a table I quess I could
expand the QryParmValues method to handle a multi dimensional array  but I
am not at all sure how to do this either. Any help will be appreciated.

Jim Hale



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From mmattys at rochester.rr.com  Wed Jun 29 15:28:23 2005
From: mmattys at rochester.rr.com (Michael R Mattys)
Date: Wed, 29 Jun 2005 16:28:23 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] invalid number of arguments
References: <005a01c57cda$2eeebdc0$fac581d5@pedro>
Message-ID: <016f01c57ce9$1a535420$0202a8c0@default>

Pedro,

I'm really sorry, I didn't see your message.
See below for what I was thinking about.
It isn't tested, of course, but I think it will do

Michael R. Mattys
Mattys MapLib for Microsoft MapPoint
http://www.mattysconsulting.com


> explain the issue with the append query.
> When there are new values in the commercial database, 
> how does the append query [know] which items are new 
> to append to the tblDebiteur.

Commercial DB
> DEBSTM
> Nummer        = Text  (but al Id's are numbers)    =  Primary Key
> Adres
> Plaats

In your autoexec, run this query:

qryPedro1
INSERT INTO tblDEBITEUR (DebID, Postadres, Woonplaats)
SELECT Clng(Nummer) As DebID, Adres As PostAdres,
Plaats As Woonplaats FROM DEBSTM WHERE IN DEBSTM.DebID
NOT IN (SELECT tblDEBITEUR.DebID FROM tblDEBITEUR) IN
'C:\Wife.mdb'

Your Wife's DB
> tblDEBITEUR
Add AutoNumber Field Here - It has no meaning, it is an index
> DebID         = Number   (Long Integer)
> Postadres
> Woonplaats



From mmattys at rochester.rr.com  Wed Jun 29 15:38:02 2005
From: mmattys at rochester.rr.com (Michael R Mattys)
Date: Wed, 29 Jun 2005 16:38:02 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] invalid number of arguments
References: <005a01c57cda$2eeebdc0$fac581d5@pedro>
	<016f01c57ce9$1a535420$0202a8c0@default>
Message-ID: <019601c57cea$73c29290$0202a8c0@default>

Make that

qryPedro1
INSERT INTO tblDEBITEUR (DebID, Postadres, Woonplaats)
SELECT Clng(Nummer) As DebID, Adres As PostAdres,
Plaats As Woonplaats FROM DEBSTM WHERE DEBSTM.DebID
NOT IN (SELECT tblDEBITEUR.DebID FROM tblDEBITEUR)
IN 'C:\Wife.mdb'


(Note : IN 'C:\Wife.mdb' is either at the end
or after DEBSTM, I can't test it at the moment)

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Mattys MapLib for Microsoft MapPoint
http://www.mattysconsulting.com



----- Original Message -----
From: "Michael R Mattys" <mmattys at rochester.rr.com>
To: "AccessD" <AccessD at databaseadvisors.com>; "Pedro Janssen"
<pedro at plex.nl>
Sent: Wednesday, June 29, 2005 4:28 PM
Subject: Re: [AccessD] invalid number of arguments


> Pedro,
>
> I'm really sorry, I didn't see your message.
> See below for what I was thinking about.
> It isn't tested, of course, but I think it will do
>
> Michael R. Mattys
> Mattys MapLib for Microsoft MapPoint
> http://www.mattysconsulting.com
>
>
> > explain the issue with the append query.
> > When there are new values in the commercial database,
> > how does the append query [know] which items are new
> > to append to the tblDebiteur.
>
> Commercial DB
> > DEBSTM
> > Nummer        = Text  (but al Id's are numbers)    =  Primary Key
> > Adres
> > Plaats
>
> In your autoexec, run this query:
>
> qryPedro1
> INSERT INTO tblDEBITEUR (DebID, Postadres, Woonplaats)
> SELECT Clng(Nummer) As DebID, Adres As PostAdres,
> Plaats As Woonplaats FROM DEBSTM WHERE IN DEBSTM.DebID
> NOT IN (SELECT tblDEBITEUR.DebID FROM tblDEBITEUR) IN
> 'C:\Wife.mdb'
>
> Your Wife's DB
> > tblDEBITEUR
> Add AutoNumber Field Here - It has no meaning, it is an index
> > DebID         = Number   (Long Integer)
> > Postadres
> > Woonplaats
>
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From jmhecht at earthlink.net  Wed Jun 29 16:38:40 2005
From: jmhecht at earthlink.net (Joe Hecht)
Date: Wed, 29 Jun 2005 14:38:40 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Re: MS Reporting Services
In-Reply-To: <6.2.1.2.2.20050629095902.03357a90@pop3.highstream.net>
Message-ID: <001701c57cf2$eaa88650$6401a8c0@laptop1>

Thanks.

Not running that yet.

Joe Hecht
Los Angeles CA

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Robert L. Stewart
Sent: Wednesday, June 29, 2005 8:00 AM
To: access at joe2.endjunk.com; accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [AccessD] Re: MS Reporting Services

Joe,

It is an addition onto SQL Server. You need to use .Net to be able to take 
advantage of it.

Robert

At 12:00 PM 6/28/2005, you wrote:
>Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2005 16:45:11 -0700
>From: "Joe Hecht" <jmhecht at earthlink.net>
>Subject: [AccessD] MS Reporting Services
>To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'"
>         <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
>Message-ID: <000901c57b72$42bdf280$6401a8c0 at laptop1>
>Content-Type: text/plain;       charset="us-ascii"
>
>I am sending resumes again. Some one is asking for MS Reporting services.
>
>What is it ?
>
>Joe Hecht


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From clh at christopherhawkins.com  Wed Jun 29 18:39:47 2005
From: clh at christopherhawkins.com (Christopher Hawkins)
Date: Wed, 29 Jun 2005 17:39:47 -0600
Subject: [AccessD] Using Outlook Redemption in Access
Message-ID: <bb1e11728f4142959f8ba65abcb4c497@christopherhawkins.com>



If you've ever made an Access app that sends eMail, you might be familiar with Outlook Redemption (http://www.dimastr.com/redemption/).? It is a set of COM components that allow you to bypass that messy Outlook dialog that reads "A program is trying to automatically send e-mail on your behalf.? Do you want to allow this?" blah blah blah.

I just downloaded Redemption and am unab;e to get it to work.? I'm hoping that someone who has successfully implemented it can help me here.

I am using code straight from the Redemption site (http://www.dimastr.com/redemption/objects.htm):

[CODE]
Private Sub Blah()
Dim SafeItem, oItem  

??? Set SafeItem = CreateObject("Redemption.SafeMailItem") 'Create an instance of Redemption.SafeMailItem
??? Set oItem = Application.CreateItem(0) 'Create a new message
??? 
??? SafeItem.Item = oItem 'set Item property
??? SafeItem.Recipients.Add "clh at christopherhawkins.com"
??? SafeItem.Recipients.ResolveAll
??? SafeItem.Subject = "Testing Redemption"
??? SafeItem.Send
End Sub
[/CODE]

This code is triggered form a button click on a form.

When I run the code, I get an error message:

"Method or data member not found"

The error is on the .CreateItem method in the line that sets oItem to a new item.

I've double-checked that the Redemption dll?is registered, and I've made sure it is referenced in the Access file.? I suspect that there is some simple aspect of setup that I'm overlooking.

Anybody ever have this same issue?

-C- 


From clh at christopherhawkins.com  Wed Jun 29 18:42:55 2005
From: clh at christopherhawkins.com (Christopher Hawkins)
Date: Wed, 29 Jun 2005 17:42:55 -0600
Subject: [AccessD] re: Using Outlook Redemption in Access
Message-ID: <5007e616e6894aabbf76899919734f9a@christopherhawkins.com>



Wait, I sent the wrong code snippet.? here is the one I am using:

[code]
Private Sub Blah()
Dim SafeItem, oItem  

??? Set Application = CreateObject("Outlook.Application")
??? Set Namespace = Application.GetNamespace("MAPI")
??? Namespace.Logon  

??? Set SafeItem = CreateObject("Redemption.SafeMailItem") 'Create an instance of Redemption.SafeMailItem
??? Set oItem = Application.CreateItem(0) 'Create a new message
??? 
??? SafeItem.Item = oItem 'set Item property
??? SafeItem.Recipients.Add "clh at christopherhawkins.com"
??? SafeItem.Recipients.ResolveAll
??? SafeItem.Subject = "Testing Redemption"
??? SafeItem.Send
End Sub
[/code]

Alright, NOW you can tell me what you think.? :)

-C-

----------------------------------------

From: "Christopher Hawkins" <clh at christopherhawkins.com>
Sent: Wednesday, June 29, 2005 5:39 PM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: Using Outlook Redemption in Access 

If you've ever made an Access app that sends eMail, you might be familiar with Outlook Redemption (http://www.dimastr.com/redemption/).? It is a set of COM components that allow you to bypass that messy Outlook dialog that reads "A program is trying to automatically send e-mail on your behalf.? Do you want to allow this?" blah blah blah.

I just downloaded Redemption and am unab;e to get it to work.? I'm hoping that someone who has successfully implemented it can help me here.

I am using code straight from the Redemption site (http://www.dimastr.com/redemption/objects.htm):

[CODE]
Private Sub Blah()
Dim SafeItem, oItem  

??? Set SafeItem = CreateObject("Redemption.SafeMailItem") 'Create an instance of Redemption.SafeMailItem
??? Set oItem = Application.CreateItem(0) 'Create a new message
??? 
??? SafeItem.Item = oItem 'set Item property
??? SafeItem.Recipients.Add "clh at christopherhawkins.com"
??? SafeItem.Recipients.ResolveAll
??? SafeItem.Subject = "Testing Redemption"
??? SafeItem.Send
End Sub
[/CODE]

This code is triggered form a button click on a form.

When I run the code, I get an error message:

"Method or data member not found"

The error is on the .CreateItem method in the line that sets oItem to a new item.

I've double-checked that the Redemption dll?is registered, and I've made sure it is referenced in the Access file.? I suspect that there is some simple aspect of setup that I'm overlooking.

Anybody ever have this same issue?

-C- 



From cfoust at infostatsystems.com  Wed Jun 29 19:11:28 2005
From: cfoust at infostatsystems.com (Charlotte Foust)
Date: Wed, 29 Jun 2005 17:11:28 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] re: Using Outlook Redemption in Access
Message-ID: <E61FC1D4B1918244905B113C680BEA8689A50A@infoserver01.infostat.local>

Well, I DID wonder! LOL

What exactly are you trying to do with the Application.CreateItem line?   The SafeItem object has a text property for the message body.  And do you have CDO enabled in Outlook?  You need it for early binding a MAPI session.  Then you can do something like this:

Dim objMAPI as MAPI.Session
Dim objMessage as MAPI.Message
Dim objRecipient as MAPI.Recipient

Then down the line, you can do:

SafeItem.Item = objMessage
SafeItem.Text = "This is my message"


Charlotte Foust


-----Original Message-----
From: Christopher Hawkins [mailto:clh at christopherhawkins.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, June 29, 2005 4:43 PM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [AccessD] re: Using Outlook Redemption in Access




Wait, I sent the wrong code snippet.? here is the one I am using:

[code]
Private Sub Blah()
Dim SafeItem, oItem  

??? Set Application = CreateObject("Outlook.Application")
??? Set Namespace = Application.GetNamespace("MAPI")
??? Namespace.Logon  

??? Set SafeItem = CreateObject("Redemption.SafeMailItem") 'Create an instance of Redemption.SafeMailItem
??? Set oItem = Application.CreateItem(0) 'Create a new message
??? 
??? SafeItem.Item = oItem 'set Item property
??? SafeItem.Recipients.Add "clh at christopherhawkins.com"
??? SafeItem.Recipients.ResolveAll
??? SafeItem.Subject = "Testing Redemption"
??? SafeItem.Send
End Sub
[/code]

Alright, NOW you can tell me what you think.? :)

-C-

----------------------------------------

From: "Christopher Hawkins" <clh at christopherhawkins.com>
Sent: Wednesday, June 29, 2005 5:39 PM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: Using Outlook Redemption in Access 

If you've ever made an Access app that sends eMail, you might be familiar with Outlook Redemption (http://www.dimastr.com/redemption/).? It is a set of COM components that allow you to bypass that messy Outlook dialog that reads "A program is trying to automatically send e-mail on your behalf.? Do you want to allow this?" blah blah blah.

I just downloaded Redemption and am unab;e to get it to work.? I'm hoping that someone who has successfully implemented it can help me here.

I am using code straight from the Redemption site (http://www.dimastr.com/redemption/objects.htm):

[CODE]
Private Sub Blah()
Dim SafeItem, oItem  

??? Set SafeItem = CreateObject("Redemption.SafeMailItem") 'Create an instance of Redemption.SafeMailItem
??? Set oItem = Application.CreateItem(0) 'Create a new message
??? 
??? SafeItem.Item = oItem 'set Item property
??? SafeItem.Recipients.Add "clh at christopherhawkins.com"
??? SafeItem.Recipients.ResolveAll
??? SafeItem.Subject = "Testing Redemption"
??? SafeItem.Send
End Sub
[/CODE]

This code is triggered form a button click on a form.

When I run the code, I get an error message:

"Method or data member not found"

The error is on the .CreateItem method in the line that sets oItem to a new item.

I've double-checked that the Redemption dll?is registered, and I've made sure it is referenced in the Access file.? I suspect that there is some simple aspect of setup that I'm overlooking.

Anybody ever have this same issue?

-C- 

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From accessd666 at yahoo.com  Thu Jun 30 00:34:57 2005
From: accessd666 at yahoo.com (Sad Der)
Date: Wed, 29 Jun 2005 22:34:57 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [AccessD] Check date-time problem
Message-ID: <20050630053457.99403.qmail@web31610.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Hi group,

I've got an ini file with the following values:
[PauzeScheduling]
StartPauzeAt=21:00
EndPauzeAt=3:00

I've got a 'service' that checks if the Currenttime:
dtmCurrentTime = CDate(Format(Time(), "hh:mm"))

Is between these values. 

It worked fine. Settings used to be within a day.
Somebody has got to have dealt with this problem
before.
What is a (very) solid way to handle this problem?
Keep in mind that this is a long running schedule
(e.g. forever?!)

Thnx.
SD

Here's my code:

'=========================================================================================
' Function Name      :  PauzeScheduling
' Parameters         :  dtmCurrentTime => Current
Time' Return value       :  (Boolean) True:
CurrentTime between scheduled times
' Purpose            :  Check if current time is
within the scheduled times of the ini file
' Assumptions        :  ---
' Uses               :  ---
' Created            :  2005-Jun-03 08:55, SaDe
' Modifications      :
'=========================================================================================
Public Function PauzeScheduling(dtmCurrentTime As
Date) As Boolean
   Dim dtmStartPauze As Date
   Dim dtmEndPauze As Date
   
   On Error GoTo PauzeScheduling_Error
   
   dtmStartPauze =
CDate(Format(g_oGenSet.GetValue("PauzeScheduling",
"StartPauzeAt"), "HH:mm"))
   dtmEndPauze =
CDate(Format(g_oGenSet.GetValue("PauzeScheduling",
"EndPauzeAt"), "hh:mm"))
   
   
   If (dtmCurrentTime > dtmStartPauze) And
(dtmCurrentTime < dtmEndPauze) Then
      PauzeScheduling = True
   Else
      PauzeScheduling = False
   End If

PauzeScheduling_Exit:
   ' Collect your garbage here
   Exit Function
PauzeScheduling_Error:
   ' Collect your garbage here
   Call
g_oGenErr.Throw("PauzeScheduling.PauzeScheduling",
"PauzeScheduling")
End Function


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From accessd666 at yahoo.com  Thu Jun 30 00:46:32 2005
From: accessd666 at yahoo.com (Sad Der)
Date: Wed, 29 Jun 2005 22:46:32 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [AccessD] Storing variable names in a table
In-Reply-To: <6A6AA9DF57E4F046BDA1E273BDDB67723376AA@corp-es01.fleetpride.com>
Message-ID: <20050630054632.1760.qmail@web31610.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Jim,

I'm probably missing the big picture here but i'll
give it a try.
Suppose you have a table with the following fields:
Query (Text)
Parameter (Text)
ParameterType (Text)

It has the values:
Query Parameter                   ParameterType
A     strareacode                 String
A     intCo                       Integer
A     "AreaActSummaryACT"         String
A     "dept1"                     String
A     .Worksheets(y).Range("a11") Range

You could add all parameters and there types in an 
array
Something like this:
intCntr = Select count(*) from ParameterTable where
Query = "A"
dim avarParameter() as variant
redim avarparameter(1,intCntr)

So now you now how to convert the parameter types.

for lngArrayCntr = 0 to UBOUND(avarparameter)
 ConvertDataType(avarparameter(1,lngArrayCntr)
next lngArrayCntr

Did I mis it completely? :-)

HTH

SD
--- "Hale, Jim" <Jim.Hale at fleetpride.com> wrote:

> In a class I have created a method that reads query
> names from a table and
> opens the appropriate record sets. There may be any
> number of queries that
> are run by a single method call. For parameter
> queries life is more
> complicated. I created a method which loads the
> variables into a ParmArray
> and then sets the query parameters to the correct
> variable. The problem with
> this is I can only run one parameter query at a time
> from my method. a
> typical call looks like:
> 
> 'set parameter values
>  Call Xcel.QryParmValues(strareacode, intCo,
> "AreaActSummaryACT", "dept1",
> .Worksheets(y).Range("a11"))
> ' read query names from table and open the
> recorsets.
>     Xcel.MultiplePasteExcel (119)
> 
> 119 is the case number so the method knows which the
> query names to pull
> from a table. Ideally I would like to store all the
> parameters for all the
> queries in a table and extract them as needed. 
> "AreaActSummaryACT", and
> "dept1" are no problem since they are strings. What
> I don't know how to do
> is store variable names such as strareacode, intCo
> as strings in a table and
> then assign them the correct value from the
> procedure all this is running
> in. Worksheets(y).Range("a11")) will also be a
> challenge to store in a table
> (it picks up the parameter value from an Excel
> worksheet) but I may be able
> use eval() to create the correct value. If I can
> solve these problems I will
> be able to populate Excel workbooks with one method
> call since all the info
> needed to create recordsets with data to paste into
> worksheets will reside
> in a table. If I can't store the variable names in a
> table I quess I could
> expand the QryParmValues method to handle a multi
> dimensional array  but I
> am not at all sure how to do this either. Any help
> will be appreciated.
> 
> Jim Hale
> 
> 
> 
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From Chris.Foote at uk.thalesgroup.com  Thu Jun 30 00:54:42 2005
From: Chris.Foote at uk.thalesgroup.com (Foote, Chris)
Date: Thu, 30 Jun 2005 06:54:42 +0100
Subject: [AccessD] Fastest Way To Get Data Field From Recordset
Message-ID: <97CF276BD8C6D4119C4B00508BB18DE709E0C7F8@ntscxch1.int.rdel.co.uk>

Agreed! <bg>

Chris Foote - UK

> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Charlotte
> Foust
> Sent: Wednesday, June 29, 2005 4:36 PM
> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> Subject: RE: [AccessD] Fastest Way To Get Data Field From Recordset
> 
> 
> If they do, they should be Colbyized! <g>
> 
> Charlotte Foust
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Foote, Chris [mailto:Chris.Foote at uk.thalesgroup.com] 
> Sent: Wednesday, June 29, 2005 7:51 AM
> To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
> Subject: RE: [AccessD] Fastest Way To Get Data Field From Recordset
> 
> 
> 
> But it presumably will not die if someone has (cough) used a space in
> the name Charlotte?
> 
> Regards
> Chris Foote - UK


From JRojas at tnco-inc.com  Thu Jun 30 08:06:59 2005
From: JRojas at tnco-inc.com (Joe Rojas)
Date: Thu, 30 Jun 2005 09:06:59 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] re: Using Outlook Redemption in Access
Message-ID: <0CC84C9461AE6445AD5A602001C41C4B05A38E@mercury.tnco-inc.com>

Hello,

I do use Redemption but I use it for creating and assigning tasks.
The problem with your code is that "Application" is a reserved word in
Access. Access already has an object named Application.

I would rename your "Application" variable to something like OutApplication
and then try it.

JR


-----Original Message-----
From: Christopher Hawkins [mailto:clh at christopherhawkins.com]
Sent: Wednesday, June 29, 2005 7:43 PM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [AccessD] re: Using Outlook Redemption in Access


Wait, I sent the wrong code snippet.  here is the one I am using:

[code]
Private Sub Blah()
Dim SafeItem, oItem 

    Set Application = CreateObject("Outlook.Application")
    Set Namespace = Application.GetNamespace("MAPI")
    Namespace.Logon 

    Set SafeItem = CreateObject("Redemption.SafeMailItem") 'Create an
instance of Redemption.SafeMailItem
    Set oItem = Application.CreateItem(0) 'Create a new message
   
    SafeItem.Item = oItem 'set Item property
    SafeItem.Recipients.Add "clh at christopherhawkins.com"
    SafeItem.Recipients.ResolveAll
    SafeItem.Subject = "Testing Redemption"
    SafeItem.Send
End Sub
[/code]

Alright, NOW you can tell me what you think.  :)

-C-

----------------------------------------

From: "Christopher Hawkins" <clh at christopherhawkins.com>
Sent: Wednesday, June 29, 2005 5:39 PM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: Using Outlook Redemption in Access

If you've ever made an Access app that sends eMail, you might be familiar
with Outlook Redemption (http://www.dimastr.com/redemption/).  It is a set
of COM components that allow you to bypass that messy Outlook dialog that
reads "A program is trying to automatically send e-mail on your behalf.  Do
you want to allow this?" blah blah blah.

I just downloaded Redemption and am unab;e to get it to work.  I'm hoping
that someone who has successfully implemented it can help me here.

I am using code straight from the Redemption site
(http://www.dimastr.com/redemption/objects.htm):

[CODE]
Private Sub Blah()
Dim SafeItem, oItem 

    Set SafeItem = CreateObject("Redemption.SafeMailItem") 'Create an
instance of Redemption.SafeMailItem
    Set oItem = Application.CreateItem(0) 'Create a new message
   
    SafeItem.Item = oItem 'set Item property
    SafeItem.Recipients.Add "clh at christopherhawkins.com"
    SafeItem.Recipients.ResolveAll
    SafeItem.Subject = "Testing Redemption"
    SafeItem.Send
End Sub
[/CODE]

This code is triggered form a button click on a form.

When I run the code, I get an error message:

"Method or data member not found"

The error is on the .CreateItem method in the line that sets oItem to a new
item.

I've double-checked that the Redemption dll is registered, and I've made
sure it is referenced in the Access file.  I suspect that there is some
simple aspect of setup that I'm overlooking.

Anybody ever have this same issue?

-C-

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From bhjohnson at verizon.net  Thu Jun 30 10:05:10 2005
From: bhjohnson at verizon.net (Bruce H. Johnson)
Date: Thu, 30 Jun 2005 08:05:10 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Using Outlook Redemption in Access
In-Reply-To: <bb1e11728f4142959f8ba65abcb4c497@christopherhawkins.com>
Message-ID: <0IIW00G8KKK8O2F0@vms048.mailsrvcs.net>

Here's the code I use in VB. Note the Application is an Outlook Application:
Public Function EMail_SendMail() As Boolean
'Use late binding to avoid version refs?
'Requires only Recipient and Subject
Dim outApp As Object
Dim outNameSpace As Object
Dim redSafeItem As Object
Dim outItem As Object
Dim strItem As String
Dim lngNdx As Long
Dim outRec As Object

If SAFEOUTLOOK_RUNTIME Then On Error GoTo EMail_SendMail_Err
EMail_SendMail = False 'default
If strEMail_Recipient(0) = vbNullString Or strEMail_Subject = vbNullString
Then
   'Convert to messages when ready
   MsgBox "One recipient and subject required.", vbOKOnly Or vbExclamation,
"EMail_SendMail"
   EMail_SendMail = False
   GoTo EMail_SendMail_Exit
End If
Set outApp = CreateObject("Outlook.Application")
Set outNameSpace = outApp.GetNamespace("MAPI")
outNameSpace.Logon

Set redSafeItem = CreateObject("Redemption.SafeMailItem") 'Create an
instance of Redemption.SafeMailItem
Set outItem = outApp.CreateItem(0) 'Create a new Mail Item
redSafeItem.Item = outItem 'set Item property
'Add recipients
For lngNdx = 0 To UBound(strEMail_Recipient)
   strItem = Trim$(strEMail_Recipient(lngNdx))
   If Len(strItem) Then
      Set outRec = redSafeItem.Recipients.Add(strItem)
      outRec.Type = 1 'To
   Else
      Exit For
   End If
Next lngNdx
'redSafeItem.Recipients.ResolveAll
redSafeItem.Subject = strEMail_Subject
'Rest are optional
'CCs
For lngNdx = 0 To UBound(strEMail_CC)
   strItem = Trim$(strEMail_CC(lngNdx))
   If Len(strItem) Then
      Set outRec = redSafeItem.Recipients.Add(strItem)
      outRec.Type = 2 'CC
   Else
      Exit For
   End If
Next lngNdx
'redSafeItem.Recipients.ResolveAll
'BCC
For lngNdx = 0 To UBound(strEMail_BCC)
   strItem = Trim$(strEMail_BCC(lngNdx))
   If Len(strItem) Then
      Set outRec = redSafeItem.Recipients.Add(strItem)
      outRec.Type = 3 'BCC
   Else
      Exit For
   End If
Next lngNdx
redSafeItem.Recipients.ResolveAll
If Len(strEMail_Body) Then redSafeItem.Body = strEMail_Body
'Attachments
For lngNdx = 0 To UBound(strEMail_AttachmentFName)
   strItem = Trim$(strEMail_AttachmentFName(lngNdx))
   If Len(strItem) Then
      redSafeItem.Attachments.Add strItem, 1, CLng(Len(strEMail_Body) + 5)
'Embed by value, position
   Else
      Exit For
   End If
Next lngNdx
'If Len(strEMail_AttachmentFName) Then redSafeItem.Attachments.Add
strEMail_AttachmentFName
redSafeItem.Send 'puts in outbox or actually sends it
EMail_SendMail = True
Set outItem = Nothing
Set redSafeItem = Nothing
Set outNameSpace = Nothing
Set outApp = Nothing
GoTo EMail_SendMail_Exit

EMail_SendMail_Err:
MsgBox Err.Description, vbOKOnly Or vbExclamation, "EMail_SendMail"

EMail_SendMail_Exit:
'let objects fall out of reference
End Function 


Bruce H. Johnson
Sylmar, CA
-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Christopher
Hawkins
Sent: Wednesday, June 29, 2005 4:40 PM
RE: REDEMPTION
Private Sub Blah()
Dim SafeItem, oItem  

??? Set SafeItem = CreateObject("Redemption.SafeMailItem") 'Create an
instance of Redemption.SafeMailItem
??? Set oItem = Application.CreateItem(0) 'Create a new message
??? 
??? SafeItem.Item = oItem 'set Item property
??? SafeItem.Recipients.Add "clh at christopherhawkins.com"
??? SafeItem.Recipients.ResolveAll
??? SafeItem.Subject = "Testing Redemption"
??? SafeItem.Send
End Sub
[/CODE]

This code is triggered form a button click on a form.

When I run the code, I get an error message:

"Method or data member not found"

The error is on the .CreateItem method in the line that sets oItem to a new
item.





From clh at christopherhawkins.com  Thu Jun 30 11:37:30 2005
From: clh at christopherhawkins.com (Christopher Hawkins)
Date: Thu, 30 Jun 2005 10:37:30 -0600
Subject: [AccessD] Getting published...
Message-ID: <8aa897d66e794e48bb3a0eac8d4d49ec@christopherhawkins.com>

SD Magazine eMailed me this morning to tell me they want to publish one of my blog pieces.? I know some of you have been published, so before I respond to them I want to talk with you.? What should I ask for?? I don't want to get taken advantage of.

-C-

 


From clh at christopherhawkins.com  Thu Jun 30 11:46:15 2005
From: clh at christopherhawkins.com (Christopher Hawkins)
Date: Thu, 30 Jun 2005 10:46:15 -0600
Subject: SPAM-LOW:  RE: [AccessD] Using Outlook Redemption in Access
Message-ID: <002be4f99a2f4cd68dd4abee36fb5eb7@christopherhawkins.com>

OK, cool, let me tweak my code a little and see what I can brew up.? ;)

Someone was telling me I should be using ClickYes instead, but I haven't even looksed at it.? Anyone have any insight into that one?

-C-

----------------------------------------
 From: "Bruce H. Johnson" <bhjohnson at verizon.net>
Sent: Thursday, June 30, 2005 9:06 AM
To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'" <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Subject: SPAM-LOW: RE: [AccessD] Using Outlook Redemption in Access 

Here's the code I use in VB. Note the Application is an Outlook Application:
Public Function EMail_SendMail() As Boolean
'Use late binding to avoid version refs?
'Requires only Recipient and Subject
Dim outApp As Object
Dim outNameSpace As Object
Dim redSafeItem As Object
Dim outItem As Object
Dim strItem As String
Dim lngNdx As Long
Dim outRec As Object

If SAFEOUTLOOK_RUNTIME Then On Error GoTo EMail_SendMail_Err
EMail_SendMail = False 'default
If strEMail_Recipient(0) = vbNullString Or strEMail_Subject = vbNullString
Then
'Convert to messages when ready
MsgBox "One recipient and subject required.", vbOKOnly Or vbExclamation,
"EMail_SendMail"
EMail_SendMail = False
GoTo EMail_SendMail_Exit
End If
Set outApp = CreateObject("Outlook.Application")
Set outNameSpace = outApp.GetNamespace("MAPI")
outNameSpace.Logon

Set redSafeItem = CreateObject("Redemption.SafeMailItem") 'Create an
instance of Redemption.SafeMailItem
Set outItem = outApp.CreateItem(0) 'Create a new Mail Item
redSafeItem.Item = outItem 'set Item property
'Add recipients
For lngNdx = 0 To UBound(strEMail_Recipient)
strItem = Trim$(strEMail_Recipient(lngNdx))
If Len(strItem) Then
Set outRec = redSafeItem.Recipients.Add(strItem)
outRec.Type = 1 'To
Else
Exit For
End If
Next lngNdx
'redSafeItem.Recipients.ResolveAll
redSafeItem.Subject = strEMail_Subject
'Rest are optional
'CCs
For lngNdx = 0 To UBound(strEMail_CC)
strItem = Trim$(strEMail_CC(lngNdx))
If Len(strItem) Then
Set outRec = redSafeItem.Recipients.Add(strItem)
outRec.Type = 2 'CC
Else
Exit For
End If
Next lngNdx
'redSafeItem.Recipients.ResolveAll
'BCC
For lngNdx = 0 To UBound(strEMail_BCC)
strItem = Trim$(strEMail_BCC(lngNdx))
If Len(strItem) Then
Set outRec = redSafeItem.Recipients.Add(strItem)
outRec.Type = 3 'BCC
Else
Exit For
End If
Next lngNdx
redSafeItem.Recipients.ResolveAll
If Len(strEMail_Body) Then redSafeItem.Body = strEMail_Body
'Attachments
For lngNdx = 0 To UBound(strEMail_AttachmentFName)
strItem = Trim$(strEMail_AttachmentFName(lngNdx))
If Len(strItem) Then
redSafeItem.Attachments.Add strItem, 1, CLng(Len(strEMail_Body) + 5)
'Embed by value, position
Else
Exit For
End If
Next lngNdx
'If Len(strEMail_AttachmentFName) Then redSafeItem.Attachments.Add
strEMail_AttachmentFName
redSafeItem.Send 'puts in outbox or actually sends it
EMail_SendMail = True
Set outItem = Nothing
Set redSafeItem = Nothing
Set outNameSpace = Nothing
Set outApp = Nothing
GoTo EMail_SendMail_Exit

EMail_SendMail_Err:
MsgBox Err.Description, vbOKOnly Or vbExclamation, "EMail_SendMail"

EMail_SendMail_Exit:
'let objects fall out of reference
End Function 

Bruce H. Johnson
Sylmar, CA
-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Christopher
Hawkins
Sent: Wednesday, June 29, 2005 4:40 PM
RE: REDEMPTION
Private Sub Blah()
Dim SafeItem, oItem 

??? Set SafeItem = CreateObject("Redemption.SafeMailItem") 'Create an
instance of Redemption.SafeMailItem
??? Set oItem = Application.CreateItem(0) 'Create a new message
??? 
??? SafeItem.Item = oItem 'set Item property
??? SafeItem.Recipients.Add "clh at christopherhawkins.com"
??? SafeItem.Recipients.ResolveAll
??? SafeItem.Subject = "Testing Redemption"
??? SafeItem.Send
End Sub
[/CODE]

This code is triggered form a button click on a form.

When I run the code, I get an error message:

"Method or data member not found"

The error is on the .CreateItem method in the line that sets oItem to a new
item.

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From bchacc at san.rr.com  Thu Jun 30 12:18:25 2005
From: bchacc at san.rr.com (Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software)
Date: Thu, 30 Jun 2005 10:18:25 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Getting published...
References: <8aa897d66e794e48bb3a0eac8d4d49ec@christopherhawkins.com>
Message-ID: <01c101c57d97$b98238a0$6701a8c0@HAL9004>

Are they offering payment? If they are you could go to their website and see 
if they say what they pay authors.  You could look in Writer's Market as 
well.

They'll probably give you a boilerplate contract.  They'll probably get 
first North American rights. Generally, you keep the copyright.

Susan could probably tell you a lot more about this.


HEY, SUSAN!!

Rocky

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Christopher Hawkins" <clh at christopherhawkins.com>
To: <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Thursday, June 30, 2005 9:37 AM
Subject: [AccessD] Getting published...


SD Magazine eMailed me this morning to tell me they want to publish one of 
my blog pieces. I know some of you have been published, so before I respond 
to them I want to talk with you. What should I ask for? I don't want to get 
taken advantage of.

-C-


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From dkalsow at yahoo.com  Thu Jun 30 12:21:22 2005
From: dkalsow at yahoo.com (Dale Kalsow)
Date: Thu, 30 Jun 2005 10:21:22 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [AccessD] executing a submodule from a different form
Message-ID: <20050630172122.30019.qmail@web50409.mail.yahoo.com>

Good Afternoon,
 
I have a form that has a subform in it. In the subform there is a subroutine that I want to execute for a new popup form.  Does any one know how I reference this subroutine for the subform from the popup form?
 
Thanks!
 
Dale

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From cfoust at infostatsystems.com  Thu Jun 30 12:46:49 2005
From: cfoust at infostatsystems.com (Charlotte Foust)
Date: Thu, 30 Jun 2005 10:46:49 -0700
Subject: SPAM-LOW:  RE: [AccessD] Using Outlook Redemption in Access
Message-ID: <E61FC1D4B1918244905B113C680BEA86873AEC@infoserver01.infostat.local>

ClickYes is an applet that is used to reply to the dialog box.  It doesn't actually bypass the security annoyances the way Redemption does.

Charlotte Foust


-----Original Message-----
From: Christopher Hawkins [mailto:clh at christopherhawkins.com] 
Sent: Thursday, June 30, 2005 9:46 AM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: re: SPAM-LOW: RE: [AccessD] Using Outlook Redemption in Access


OK, cool, let me tweak my code a little and see what I can brew up.? ;)

Someone was telling me I should be using ClickYes instead, but I haven't even looksed at it.? Anyone have any insight into that one?

-C-

----------------------------------------
 From: "Bruce H. Johnson" <bhjohnson at verizon.net>
Sent: Thursday, June 30, 2005 9:06 AM
To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'" <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Subject: SPAM-LOW: RE: [AccessD] Using Outlook Redemption in Access 

Here's the code I use in VB. Note the Application is an Outlook Application: Public Function EMail_SendMail() As Boolean 'Use late binding to avoid version refs? 'Requires only Recipient and Subject Dim outApp As Object Dim outNameSpace As Object Dim redSafeItem As Object Dim outItem As Object Dim strItem As String Dim lngNdx As Long Dim outRec As Object

If SAFEOUTLOOK_RUNTIME Then On Error GoTo EMail_SendMail_Err EMail_SendMail = False 'default If strEMail_Recipient(0) = vbNullString Or strEMail_Subject = vbNullString Then 'Convert to messages when ready MsgBox "One recipient and subject required.", vbOKOnly Or vbExclamation, "EMail_SendMail" EMail_SendMail = False GoTo EMail_SendMail_Exit End If Set outApp = CreateObject("Outlook.Application")
Set outNameSpace = outApp.GetNamespace("MAPI") outNameSpace.Logon

Set redSafeItem = CreateObject("Redemption.SafeMailItem") 'Create an instance of Redemption.SafeMailItem Set outItem = outApp.CreateItem(0) 'Create a new Mail Item redSafeItem.Item = outItem 'set Item property 'Add recipients For lngNdx = 0 To UBound(strEMail_Recipient) strItem = Trim$(strEMail_Recipient(lngNdx)) If Len(strItem) Then Set outRec = redSafeItem.Recipients.Add(strItem)
outRec.Type = 1 'To
Else
Exit For
End If
Next lngNdx
'redSafeItem.Recipients.ResolveAll
redSafeItem.Subject = strEMail_Subject
'Rest are optional
'CCs
For lngNdx = 0 To UBound(strEMail_CC)
strItem = Trim$(strEMail_CC(lngNdx))
If Len(strItem) Then
Set outRec = redSafeItem.Recipients.Add(strItem)
outRec.Type = 2 'CC
Else
Exit For
End If
Next lngNdx
'redSafeItem.Recipients.ResolveAll
'BCC
For lngNdx = 0 To UBound(strEMail_BCC)
strItem = Trim$(strEMail_BCC(lngNdx))
If Len(strItem) Then
Set outRec = redSafeItem.Recipients.Add(strItem)
outRec.Type = 3 'BCC
Else
Exit For
End If
Next lngNdx
redSafeItem.Recipients.ResolveAll
If Len(strEMail_Body) Then redSafeItem.Body = strEMail_Body 'Attachments For lngNdx = 0 To UBound(strEMail_AttachmentFName) strItem = Trim$(strEMail_AttachmentFName(lngNdx))
If Len(strItem) Then
redSafeItem.Attachments.Add strItem, 1, CLng(Len(strEMail_Body) + 5) 'Embed by value, position Else Exit For End If Next lngNdx 'If Len(strEMail_AttachmentFName) Then redSafeItem.Attachments.Add strEMail_AttachmentFName redSafeItem.Send 'puts in outbox or actually sends it EMail_SendMail = True Set outItem = Nothing Set redSafeItem = Nothing Set outNameSpace = Nothing Set outApp = Nothing GoTo EMail_SendMail_Exit

EMail_SendMail_Err:
MsgBox Err.Description, vbOKOnly Or vbExclamation, "EMail_SendMail"

EMail_SendMail_Exit:
'let objects fall out of reference
End Function 

Bruce H. Johnson
Sylmar, CA
-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Christopher Hawkins
Sent: Wednesday, June 29, 2005 4:40 PM
RE: REDEMPTION
Private Sub Blah()
Dim SafeItem, oItem 

??? Set SafeItem = CreateObject("Redemption.SafeMailItem") 'Create an instance of Redemption.SafeMailItem
??? Set oItem = Application.CreateItem(0) 'Create a new message
??? 
??? SafeItem.Item = oItem 'set Item property
??? SafeItem.Recipients.Add "clh at christopherhawkins.com"
??? SafeItem.Recipients.ResolveAll
??? SafeItem.Subject = "Testing Redemption"
??? SafeItem.Send
End Sub
[/CODE]

This code is triggered form a button click on a form.

When I run the code, I get an error message:

"Method or data member not found"

The error is on the .CreateItem method in the line that sets oItem to a new item.

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From darsant at gmail.com  Thu Jun 30 12:46:58 2005
From: darsant at gmail.com (Josh McFarlane)
Date: Thu, 30 Jun 2005 12:46:58 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] executing a submodule from a different form
In-Reply-To: <20050630172122.30019.qmail@web50409.mail.yahoo.com>
References: <20050630172122.30019.qmail@web50409.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <53c8e05a05063010466dabf724@mail.gmail.com>

On 6/30/05, Dale Kalsow <dkalsow at yahoo.com> wrote:
> Good Afternoon,
> 
> I have a form that has a subform in it. In the subform there is a subroutine that I want to execute for a new popup form.  Does any one know how I reference this subroutine for the subform from the popup form?
> 
> Thanks!
> 
> Dale
If it is a public function, you can refer to it the same way you refer
to a field on the form from another form. It's been a while, but I
think it's Forms_FormName.FunctionName


-- 
HTH
Josh McFarlane

"Peace cannot be kept by force. It can only be achieved by understanding."
-Albert Einstein


From fahooper at trapo.com  Thu Jun 30 12:47:40 2005
From: fahooper at trapo.com (Fred Hooper)
Date: Thu, 30 Jun 2005 13:47:40 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] executing a submodule from a different form
In-Reply-To: <20050630172122.30019.qmail@web50409.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <001201c57d9b$cf64a690$2e01a8c0@fredxp>

Try Form_frmOldSubForm.SubroutineName

Make sure the subroutine you want to name is Public.

Fred Hooper

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Dale Kalsow
Sent: Thursday, June 30, 2005 1:21 PM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [AccessD] executing a submodule from a different form

Good Afternoon,
 
I have a form that has a subform in it. In the subform there is a subroutine
that I want to execute for a new popup form.  Does any one know how I
reference this subroutine for the subform from the popup form?
 
Thanks!
 
Dale

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From cfoust at infostatsystems.com  Thu Jun 30 12:49:40 2005
From: cfoust at infostatsystems.com (Charlotte Foust)
Date: Thu, 30 Jun 2005 10:49:40 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] executing a submodule from a different form
Message-ID: <E61FC1D4B1918244905B113C680BEA86873AED@infoserver01.infostat.local>

I'm not sure I understand.  You want the popup form to execute a sub on
a subform of an open form?  Or do you mean you want to use the same
routine in the popup?  If the latter, the way to do it is put the
routine in a standard module and call it from each location that needs
to use it.  If the former, what is it you're trying to accomplish?  You
can interact between forms, but it is cleaner to send a message back to
the subform (or whatever) and allow that object to act on itself.

Charlotte Foust


-----Original Message-----
From: Dale Kalsow [mailto:dkalsow at yahoo.com] 
Sent: Thursday, June 30, 2005 10:21 AM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [AccessD] executing a submodule from a different form


Good Afternoon,
 
I have a form that has a subform in it. In the subform there is a
subroutine that I want to execute for a new popup form.  Does any one
know how I reference this subroutine for the subform from the popup
form?
 
Thanks!
 
Dale

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From clh at christopherhawkins.com  Thu Jun 30 13:47:48 2005
From: clh at christopherhawkins.com (Christopher Hawkins)
Date: Thu, 30 Jun 2005 12:47:48 -0600
Subject: SPAM-LOW:  Re: [AccessD] Getting published...
Message-ID: <e3b015c83c034760a6682ff2f59380fa@christopherhawkins.com>

Well, they just asked if they could publish it.? They didn't address anything about rights or compensation.

I suppose I could write back and ask what terms they're proposing....

-C-

----------------------------------------
 From: "Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software" <bchacc at san.rr.com>
Sent: Thursday, June 30, 2005 11:23 AM
To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving" <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Subject: SPAM-LOW: Re: [AccessD] Getting published... 

Are they offering payment? If they are you could go to their website and see 
if they say what they pay authors. You could look in Writer's Market as 
well.

They'll probably give you a boilerplate contract. They'll probably get 
first North American rights. Generally, you keep the copyright.

Susan could probably tell you a lot more about this.

HEY, SUSAN!!

Rocky

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Christopher Hawkins" 
To: 
Sent: Thursday, June 30, 2005 9:37 AM
Subject: [AccessD] Getting published...

SD Magazine eMailed me this morning to tell me they want to publish one of 
my blog pieces. I know some of you have been published, so before I respond 
to them I want to talk with you. What should I ask for? I don't want to get 
taken advantage of.

-C-

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From artful at rogers.com  Thu Jun 30 14:08:48 2005
From: artful at rogers.com (Arthur Fuller)
Date: Thu, 30 Jun 2005 15:08:48 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Getting published...
In-Reply-To: <8aa897d66e794e48bb3a0eac8d4d49ec@christopherhawkins.com>
Message-ID: <200506301908.j5UJ8mR09773@databaseadvisors.com>

They will probably offer you a small amount of money and ask for rights in
perpetuity. Most of them do that nowadays. More to the point is what you
want out of it. Academic recognition? Money? Leads to new gigs? More writing
for them? IMO you need to decide these issues before talking to them.

As for me, I do want to be taken advantage of, but Uma Thurman and Maria
Sharapova seem to be too busy. Alack and alas.

Arthur

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Christopher
Hawkins
Sent: June 30, 2005 12:38 PM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [AccessD] Getting published...

SD Magazine eMailed me this morning to tell me they want to publish one of
my blog pieces.? I know some of you have been published, so before I respond
to them I want to talk with you.? What should I ask for?? I don't want to
get taken advantage of.

-C-



From ssharkins at bellsouth.net  Thu Jun 30 14:12:53 2005
From: ssharkins at bellsouth.net (Susan Harkins)
Date: Thu, 30 Jun 2005 15:12:53 -0400
Subject: SPAM-LOW:  Re: [AccessD] Getting published...
In-Reply-To: <e3b015c83c034760a6682ff2f59380fa@christopherhawkins.com>
Message-ID: <20050630191339.DSIQ25470.ibm57aec.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>

The truth is, you don't really ask for anything -- all publishers have
different requirements, and you either play ball, or you don't get
published. 

Since this is from a blog, you probably won't have much to worry about --
it's already been published, so they probably won't try to buy all rights --
you should be able to republish anyplace you like -- you'll just have to ask
them about that to make sure you don't violate anything. 

They may want to publish it for free -- that's not uncommon with already
published material. If that's the case, all you really get out of it is some
fame. :) 

If they send you a contract and you don't understand the rights clauses,
just ask them. They'll either buy it outright and require that you take it
off your blog and never use it again or they'll buy first publishing rights,
which means you can reprint it but you have to say, "published first by
....," some buy all rights for a year and then it reverts back to you to
republish, resell...  -- there are a few different ways they could go. 

Susan H. 

Well, they just asked if they could publish it.? They didn't address
anything about rights or compensation.

I suppose I could write back and ask what terms they're proposing....

-C-

----------------------------------------
 From: "Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software" <bchacc at san.rr.com>
Sent: Thursday, June 30, 2005 11:23 AM
To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving"
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Subject: SPAM-LOW: Re: [AccessD] Getting published... 

Are they offering payment? If they are you could go to their website and see
if they say what they pay authors. You could look in Writer's Market as
well.

They'll probably give you a boilerplate contract. They'll probably get first
North American rights. Generally, you keep the copyright.

Susan could probably tell you a lot more about this.

HEY, SUSAN!!

Rocky

----- Original Message -----
From: "Christopher Hawkins" 
To: 
Sent: Thursday, June 30, 2005 9:37 AM
Subject: [AccessD] Getting published...

SD Magazine eMailed me this morning to tell me they want to publish one of
my blog pieces. I know some of you have been published, so before I respond
to them I want to talk with you. What should I ask for? I don't want to get
taken advantage of.

-C-

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From prosoft6 at hotmail.com  Thu Jun 30 14:21:41 2005
From: prosoft6 at hotmail.com (Julie Reardon-Taylor)
Date: Thu, 30 Jun 2005 15:21:41 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Copy Existing Record Including Subform
Message-ID: <BAY104-F121A62E2FE15183E421F439AE30@phx.gbl>

Okay...this should be easy, but I'm stumped.

I have a from that is linked to a subform...works great.

The user wants to create an exact duplicate of both the main form, including 
the subform, and have the abililty to simply change the date on the main 
form.  In other words, create an exact duplicate of the records.

I can only get the subform to write the first record.  It won't go to the 
second and third record.  What am I missing?



Julie Reardon-Taylor
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From martyconnelly at shaw.ca  Thu Jun 30 14:29:21 2005
From: martyconnelly at shaw.ca (MartyConnelly)
Date: Thu, 30 Jun 2005 12:29:21 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Check date-time problem
References: <20050630053457.99403.qmail@web31610.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <42C44811.6050000@shaw.ca>

So what is the problem, are you running more than 24 hours?

Sad Der wrote:

>Hi group,
>
>I've got an ini file with the following values:
>[PauzeScheduling]
>StartPauzeAt=21:00
>EndPauzeAt=3:00
>
>I've got a 'service' that checks if the Currenttime:
>dtmCurrentTime = CDate(Format(Time(), "hh:mm"))
>
>Is between these values. 
>
>It worked fine. Settings used to be within a day.
>Somebody has got to have dealt with this problem
>before.
>What is a (very) solid way to handle this problem?
>Keep in mind that this is a long running schedule
>(e.g. forever?!)
>
>Thnx.
>SD
>
>Here's my code:
>
>'=========================================================================================
>' Function Name      :  PauzeScheduling
>' Parameters         :  dtmCurrentTime => Current
>Time' Return value       :  (Boolean) True:
>CurrentTime between scheduled times
>' Purpose            :  Check if current time is
>within the scheduled times of the ini file
>' Assumptions        :  ---
>' Uses               :  ---
>' Created            :  2005-Jun-03 08:55, SaDe
>' Modifications      :
>'=========================================================================================
>Public Function PauzeScheduling(dtmCurrentTime As
>Date) As Boolean
>   Dim dtmStartPauze As Date
>   Dim dtmEndPauze As Date
>   
>   On Error GoTo PauzeScheduling_Error
>   
>   dtmStartPauze =
>CDate(Format(g_oGenSet.GetValue("PauzeScheduling",
>"StartPauzeAt"), "HH:mm"))
>   dtmEndPauze =
>CDate(Format(g_oGenSet.GetValue("PauzeScheduling",
>"EndPauzeAt"), "hh:mm"))
>   
>   
>   If (dtmCurrentTime > dtmStartPauze) And
>(dtmCurrentTime < dtmEndPauze) Then
>      PauzeScheduling = True
>   Else
>      PauzeScheduling = False
>   End If
>
>PauzeScheduling_Exit:
>   ' Collect your garbage here
>   Exit Function
>PauzeScheduling_Error:
>   ' Collect your garbage here
>   Call
>g_oGenErr.Throw("PauzeScheduling.PauzeScheduling",
>"PauzeScheduling")
>End Function
>
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From prosoft6 at hotmail.com  Thu Jun 30 14:47:48 2005
From: prosoft6 at hotmail.com (Julie Reardon-Taylor)
Date: Thu, 30 Jun 2005 15:47:48 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Copy Existing Record Including Subform
In-Reply-To: <BAY104-F121A62E2FE15183E421F439AE30@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <BAY104-F90F7B9DD65AF80A3839569AE30@phx.gbl>

Nevermind.  I found what I needed in the MS-KnowlegeBase in Article ID : 
208824 .

Thanks anyway!



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From dkalsow at yahoo.com  Thu Jun 30 14:50:16 2005
From: dkalsow at yahoo.com (Dale Kalsow)
Date: Thu, 30 Jun 2005 12:50:16 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [AccessD] executing a submodule from a different form
In-Reply-To: <001201c57d9b$cf64a690$2e01a8c0@fredxp>
Message-ID: <20050630195016.8222.qmail@web50401.mail.yahoo.com>

Thanks that worked great.  I was using Form!frmOldSubForm.SubroutineName and it just was not working.
 
Dale

Fred Hooper <fahooper at trapo.com> wrote:
Try Form_frmOldSubForm.SubroutineName

Make sure the subroutine you want to name is Public.

Fred Hooper

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Subject: [AccessD] executing a submodule from a different form

Good Afternoon,

I have a form that has a subform in it. In the subform there is a subroutine
that I want to execute for a new popup form. Does any one know how I
reference this subroutine for the subform from the popup form?

Thanks!

Dale

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From clh at christopherhawkins.com  Thu Jun 30 15:31:48 2005
From: clh at christopherhawkins.com (Christopher Hawkins)
Date: Thu, 30 Jun 2005 14:31:48 -0600
Subject: SPAM-LOW:  Re: [AccessD] Getting published...
Message-ID: <02b4a6b1169c408b83f1e5a95b331132@christopherhawkins.com>

I just got off the phone with them.? Looks like $500 and first publishing rights for 6 months.? Not a bad deal for an hour of work.? Plus she's asking if I have anything on a couple of other topics.

Cool!? :D

-C-

----------------------------------------
 From: "Susan Harkins" <ssharkins at bellsouth.net>
Sent: Thursday, June 30, 2005 1:17 PM
To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'" <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Subject: RE: SPAM-LOW: Re: [AccessD] Getting published... 

The truth is, you don't really ask for anything -- all publishers have
different requirements, and you either play ball, or you don't get
published. 

Since this is from a blog, you probably won't have much to worry about --
it's already been published, so they probably won't try to buy all rights --
you should be able to republish anyplace you like -- you'll just have to ask
them about that to make sure you don't violate anything. 

They may want to publish it for free -- that's not uncommon with already
published material. If that's the case, all you really get out of it is some
fame. :) 

If they send you a contract and you don't understand the rights clauses,
just ask them. They'll either buy it outright and require that you take it
off your blog and never use it again or they'll buy first publishing rights,
which means you can reprint it but you have to say, "published first by
....," some buy all rights for a year and then it reverts back to you to
republish, resell... -- there are a few different ways they could go. 

Susan H. 

Well, they just asked if they could publish it.? They didn't address
anything about rights or compensation.

I suppose I could write back and ask what terms they're proposing....

-C-

----------------------------------------
From: "Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software" 
Sent: Thursday, June 30, 2005 11:23 AM
To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving"

Subject: SPAM-LOW: Re: [AccessD] Getting published... 

Are they offering payment? If they are you could go to their website and see
if they say what they pay authors. You could look in Writer's Market as
well.

They'll probably give you a boilerplate contract. They'll probably get first
North American rights. Generally, you keep the copyright.

Susan could probably tell you a lot more about this.

HEY, SUSAN!!

Rocky

----- Original Message -----
From: "Christopher Hawkins" 
To: 
Sent: Thursday, June 30, 2005 9:37 AM
Subject: [AccessD] Getting published...

SD Magazine eMailed me this morning to tell me they want to publish one of
my blog pieces. I know some of you have been published, so before I respond
to them I want to talk with you. What should I ask for? I don't want to get
taken advantage of.

-C-

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From susanj at sgmeet.com  Thu Jun 30 16:41:08 2005
From: susanj at sgmeet.com (Susan Jones)
Date: Thu, 30 Jun 2005 16:41:08 -0500
Subject: SPAM-LOW:  Re: [AccessD] Getting published...
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Message-ID: <6.0.1.1.2.20050630164046.037aa5c0@192.168.3.99>

Cool, indeed! Congratulations!
Susan

At 03:31 PM 6/30/05, you wrote:
>I just got off the phone with them.  Looks like $500 and first publishing 
>rights for 6 months.  Not a bad deal for an hour of work.  Plus she's 
>asking if I have anything on a couple of other topics.
>
>Cool!  :D
>
>-C-



From starkey at wanadoo.nl  Thu Jun 30 17:02:46 2005
From: starkey at wanadoo.nl (StaRKeY)
Date: Fri, 1 Jul 2005 00:02:46 +0200
Subject: [AccessD] Expression not working in text box
In-Reply-To: <20050623124955.QFUR4468.ibm61aec.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>
Message-ID: <20050630215825.518A2451C0@smtp6.wanadoo.nl>

Susan, 

I understand you use the code in the immediate window however what does the
code in your mainform look like? 

It's my understanding that the code in your mainform would look like this: 
'subform.Form.RecordsetClone.RecordCount' without the 'Forms!mainform!'
since you are already in this form and you only need to reference the
subform, hope this helps. Ofcourse in the immediate window you would need
the reference to the mainform since the focus is not on the mainform then...

The only other thing I can think of what might be troubling is the
recordcount property... I am not sure if this still is needed in 2003 but I
am used to do a movelast and a movefirst to populate the recordset to be
able to get a proper recordcount but ohwell:-) My first guess is the line of
code from what you posted is too long for the mainform.

Let me know whether I am close to the solution ok? If not I'll make my own
sample here in 2003!;-) 

Good luck, 
Eric Starkenburg 

-----Oorspronkelijk bericht----- 
Van: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] Namens Susan Harkins 
Verzonden: donderdag 23 juni 2005 14:50 
Aan: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' 
Onderwerp: [AccessD] Expression not working in text box 

=Forms!mainform!subform.Form.RecordsetClone.RecordCount 
  
I've used the above expression before, in a main form, to return a count of
the records in a subform. It isn't working in 2003. It works in the
Immediate window, so I have no clue what the problem is. :( 

  
I know I can just use Count(*) in the subform and reference that control --
and I will if I have to in the end -- but anyone know what they above won't
work in 2003? 

  
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From starkey at wanadoo.nl  Thu Jun 30 17:11:09 2005
From: starkey at wanadoo.nl (StaRKeY)
Date: Fri, 1 Jul 2005 00:11:09 +0200
Subject: [AccessD] Normalizing issue
In-Reply-To: <20050623135959.FMWJ25470.ibm57aec.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>
Message-ID: <20050630220648.6999044DEC@smtp6.wanadoo.nl>

Hi again, 

Stick to the subject(fieldnames)... So lastname only in lastname field,
firstname could contain something like 'Susan (Sales)'. The middle part is
rather part of your first name then your lastname since people tend to do a
search on lastname and besides that your lastname is Harkins and NOT Sales
Harkins!!

However I am more curious about the why you handle three professional
names?? Isn't it the same person in three different roles?:-P 

In a letter or report or whatever you'd use your real name Susan Harkins and
then maybe followed by a referal like (Sales) or (Teaser) so in short any
data entry person would only enter your name once and then add three roles
to it...

Who the shoe fits... 

BN, 
Eric Starkenburg 

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Verzonden: donderdag 23 juni 2005 16:00 
Aan: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' 
Onderwerp: [AccessD] Normalizing issue 

How do you guys deal with people that use three or more names
professionally? I do -- Susan Sales Harkins. 
  
Do you store the second name with the first or use three fields? The middle
name really isn't a "middle" name. It's actually part of the last name, but
the last name is the real last name -- so if you stored it with the last
name, you'd have to depend on users to enter it correctly, as in Harkins,
Sales --  which is a mistake before you even get started... And how do you
write in the flexibility that handles 2 or 3 names? 

  
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From starkey at wanadoo.nl  Thu Jun 30 17:13:19 2005
From: starkey at wanadoo.nl (StaRKeY)
Date: Fri, 1 Jul 2005 00:13:19 +0200
Subject: [AccessD] Normalizing issue
In-Reply-To: <20050623154231.MOKU25209.ibm63aec.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>
Message-ID: <20050630220858.88C4B450A4@smtp6.wanadoo.nl>

Mmmzzzz still going strong this thread.... 

So writing names?? Use aliasses instead of roles like i mentioned in earlier
mail... Whatever they want just give i to them and let them have as many
names/aliasses/roles they want:-)

  

-----Oorspronkelijk bericht----- 
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[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] Namens Susan Harkins 
Verzonden: donderdag 23 juni 2005 17:43 
Aan: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' 
Onderwerp: RE: [AccessD] Normalizing issue 

  
If it isn't a middle or maiden name, what is it?  This gets even more tricky
with non-English names where "last" names can get really confusing.  I
generally provide a field for first, middle, and last name and make it the
responsibility of the user to enter the appropriate value in the appropriate
field.  The rules for parsing this can become so draconian, that it hardly
seems worth the work to do anything else.

========I'm in the middle of creating a database (pro bono) for a writer's
organization. It's a simple deal and will require little work -- but this is
already cropping up. These people will want their "writing" names with their
publications -- I'm thinking about just adding one more field to store their
"pen name" or whatever -- but then that becomes a nuisance if their name and
professional name are the same -- gotta fill in both or allow for the blanks
and go find the real name -- such a nuisance -- 

I think at this point the middle name is the best solution -- 

Susan H. 

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From ssharkins at bellsouth.net  Thu Jun 30 17:31:44 2005
From: ssharkins at bellsouth.net (Susan Harkins)
Date: Thu, 30 Jun 2005 18:31:44 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Expression not working in text box
In-Reply-To: <20050630215825.518A2451C0@smtp6.wanadoo.nl>
Message-ID: <20050630223143.NEPK4468.ibm61aec.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>

 The only other thing I can think of what might be troubling is the
recordcount property... I am not sure if this still is needed in 2003 but I
am used to do a movelast and a movefirst to populate the recordset to be
able to get a proper recordcount but ohwell:-) My first guess is the line of
code from what you posted is too long for the mainform.

==========I put a Recalc in the form's module -- still didn't work. Works in
2002, not in 2003. I think there's something wrong with my copy of 2003 --
not the only flaky business I had last week. 

Susan H. 



From ssharkins at bellsouth.net  Thu Jun 30 17:31:44 2005
From: ssharkins at bellsouth.net (Susan Harkins)
Date: Thu, 30 Jun 2005 18:31:44 -0400
Subject: SPAM-LOW:  Re: [AccessD] Getting published...
In-Reply-To: <02b4a6b1169c408b83f1e5a95b331132@christopherhawkins.com>
Message-ID: <20050630223150.NEQC4468.ibm61aec.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>

Yelp -- good deal. Congratulations! :) 

Susan H. 

I just got off the phone with them.? Looks like $500 and first publishing
rights for 6 months.? Not a bad deal for an hour of work.? Plus she's asking
if I have anything on a couple of other topics.