William Hindman
dejpolsys at hotmail.com
Fri Jun 10 16:49:53 CDT 2005
..can somebody with a smattering of common sense please delete this. ..OT is the place for this ...not AccessD. William ----- Original Message ----- From: "Heenan, Lambert" <Lambert.Heenan at aig.com> To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'" <accessd at databaseadvisors.com> Sent: Friday, June 10, 2005 5:18 PM Subject: RE: [AccessD] Friday humour > My last comment on this (honest!!! <vbg>) > > I'm wholeheartedly atheist, but I certainly not apolitical. I believe that > everyone should be involved in the political process because politics > impacts everyone. But this is not the place for politics. > > The Kansas situation may have offended more people than it satisfied, but > still the stickers are in the school books. It seems enough Kansans were > convinced that they voted in the measure, and to hell with the > unbelievers. > This country is being taken over by religious > fanatics/extemists/nutters/fools (you choose) who's agenda has nothing at > all to do with the common good and everything to do with their desire for > power. Power of you, me, your dog and cat, and ultimately the rest of the > world. > > Lambert > > -----Original Message----- > From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Charlotte Foust > Sent: Friday, June 10, 2005 5:05 PM > To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving > Subject: RE: [AccessD] Friday humour > > > That didn't prevent any arguments, it started more and offended more > people > than it satisfied. I am areligious and largely apolitical, so I am only > offended by a lack of common sense and basic courtesy. I just think it is > playing with fire to discuss these topics in a public playground where > fistfights are discouraged. <g> > > Charlotte Foust > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Heenan, Lambert [mailto:Lambert.Heenan at aig.com] > Sent: Friday, June 10, 2005 1:55 PM > To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' > Subject: RE: [AccessD] Friday humour > > > In Kansas they add Creationism to the school curriculum in order not to > offend one specific group of people. That doesn't make it right either. > > On the whole though I agree with your comment. I especially do not like to > see politics being discussed in a software developer's group, but every > rule > has its exceptions and pointing out the lunacy of the religions of this > world (not just Christina ones) is an exception for me. > > Politicians can be voted out of office. Religious nuts want us to vote our > brains out of office. But of course they never say that they are willing > to > give up all the benefits and comforts that the hateful world of science > has > given them - like the internet where they can publish their rubbish to the > hearts content, where no paper and glue publisher would have touched it, > and > the computers they use to do it with. This despite the fact that it is > heretical scientific research that made it all possible. Not one single > solitary advance in human technology has come out of the world of > religion. > Stone tools, metal tools, agriculture, writing, you name it, they all came > out of human needs. > > Lambert > > -----Original Message----- > From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Charlotte Foust > Sent: Friday, June 10, 2005 4:03 PM > To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving > Subject: RE: [AccessD] Friday humour > > > Friends, > > In Woody's Lounge, we axe threads like this to avoid offending anyone, > however misinformed they might be in their beliefs. Is there an > equivalent > rule in this list? I get very twitchy when conversations wander into the > areas of religion and politics, since they tend to deteriorate into name > calling and flames. > > Charlotte Foust > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Heenan, Lambert [mailto:Lambert.Heenan at aig.com] > Sent: Friday, June 10, 2005 11:49 AM > To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' > Subject: RE: [AccessD] Friday humour > > > Anyone care to tell us how the Earth Centric types explain stellar > parallax? > Or do they simply deny its existence as their various 'good books' refer > to > the 'fixed stars'? > > > -----Original Message----- > From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Elam, Debbie > Sent: Friday, June 10, 2005 2:39 PM > To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' > Subject: RE: [AccessD] Friday humour > > > No it does not throw it out the window, it just makes the lovely and > simple > orbital mechanics equations into monster equations that take a super > computer to calculate with any proficiency. Of course those other planets > just orbit around the sun while the whole mess orbits around the Earth > ;-). > That was the real reason it became obvious that the best method of > calculation was to put the sun in the center of the system. The whole mess > with the rings was to account for planetary movements. It is a little like > the headaches caused when you try to take the Earth's total motion into > account when compared to the motion of another star in the milky way > galaxy > which is all rotating around a cluster of stars in the galaxy center. > Much > more pleasant to break it into chunks and consider the solar system a > single > unit when talking about motion with respect to the galaxy. > > Debbie > > -----Original Message----- > From: Don Bozarth [mailto:drboz at pacbell.net] > Sent: Friday, June 10, 2005 1:25 PM > To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving > Subject: Re: [AccessD] Friday humour > > > Well, if the solar system is Earth centered, a lot of the math dealing > with > planetary motion goes right out the window... not to mention that little > sniggle called gravity. The math of orbital mechanics suddenly > disappears. > Were all that math wrong, we could never have made it to the Moon, Venus, > Mars, Jupiter, Saturn, and Uranus those places manmade satellites have > visited. > > Don B. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Elam, Debbie" <DElam at jenkens.com> > To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'" > <accessd at databaseadvisors.com> > Sent: Friday, June 10, 2005 11:14 AM > Subject: RE: [AccessD] Friday humour > > >> Actually they are right. The whole thing comes down to perspective. >> Of course the math is a heck of a lot easier if you simply consider >> the sun > the >> center around which the solar system revolves. In this case as many > others, >> why not go with the simplest answer that gives the most correct > predictions? >> Why complicate the issue by insisting that a certain perspective has >> to be maintained? Groan, no doubt they will call it proof. Of course > >> the > reverse >> is just as true. No one can prove that the sun revolves around the >> Earth, but that is a minor detail. >> >> Debbie >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Jim Lawrence [mailto:accessd at shaw.ca] >> Sent: Friday, June 10, 2005 1:00 PM >> To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' >> Subject: [AccessD] Friday humour >> >> >> Hi All: >> >> When first read I thought this was a joke... but I think it is for >> real; which of course would make it more hilarious. Check this out: >> http://www.catholicintl.com/epologetics/articles/science/geochallenge. >> htm >> >> Jim >> >> -- >> AccessD mailing list >> AccessD at databaseadvisors.com >> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd >> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com >> - JENKENS & GILCHRIST E-MAIL NOTICE - This transmission may be: (1) > subject >> to the Attorney-Client Privilege, (2) an attorney work product, or (3) >> strictly confidential. 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