Andy Lacey
andy at minstersystems.co.uk
Sat Jun 11 01:35:32 CDT 2005
Gosh, I have a Friday away from the list and miss all the "fun". You lot just can't be trusted can you? I know JB has stepped in but just in case anyone's tempted to get up this morning and add their 2c worth, or somethiong like this off next week, can I just remind everyone that Friday humour is not a free pass to say any old thing which would not be acceptable on the list any other day. It's purpose is to offer light entertainment, not political/religious debate. Those are not, ever, topics for this list. These subjects not only CAN cause offence, they usually DO. And if you want offence go to OT. For all I, or you, know there may be a hundred Catholic fundamentalists part of this list. Opus Dei may log on to us on a daily basis. I've no idea. The point is that if they do they are welcome on the same basis as everyone else. So don't just assume everyone is going to hold your views, whatever they are, and have a good laugh at the other feller. It never works that way. -- Andy Lacey http://www.minstersystems.co.uk > -----Original Message----- > From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of > MartyConnelly > Sent: 11 June 2005 04:37 > To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving > Subject: Re: [AccessD] Friday humour > > > This debate started out by a website of some nutter > catholic's attempted > refutation of the Heliocentric theory. > I pointed out that Copernicus, you know the guy that started > it all, was > a known Cleric in religious orders > He may also have been an ordained priest as he was short listed for a > bishopric by the King of Poland. > So much for no solitary technological advance by religious nuts or > coming out of the world of religion. > > Of course there are humorous advanced scientific > technological advances > in the US > like the following. http://www.big-boys.com/articles/parafire.html > > which brings it all back to humour ;) > > Heenan, Lambert wrote: > > >In Kansas they add Creationism to the school curriculum in > order not to > >offend one specific group of people. That doesn't make it > right either. > > > >On the whole though I agree with your comment. I especially > do not like > >to see politics being discussed in a software developer's group, but > >every rule has its exceptions and pointing out the lunacy of the > >religions of this world (not just Christina ones) is an > exception for > >me. > > > >Politicians can be voted out of office. Religious nuts want > us to vote > >our brains out of office. But of course they never say that they are > >willing to give up all the benefits and comforts that the > hateful world > >of science has given them - like the internet where they can publish > >their rubbish to the hearts content, where no paper and glue > publisher > >would have touched it, and the computers they use to do it > with. This > >despite the fact that it is heretical scientific research > that made it > >all possible. Not one single solitary advance in human > technology has > >come out of the world of religion. Stone tools, metal tools, > >agriculture, writing, you name it, they all came out of human needs. > > > >Lambert > > > >-----Original Message----- > >From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > >[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Charlotte > >Foust > >Sent: Friday, June 10, 2005 4:03 PM > >To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving > >Subject: RE: [AccessD] Friday humour > > > > > >Friends, > > > >In Woody's Lounge, we axe threads like this to avoid > offending anyone, > >however misinformed they might be in their beliefs. Is there an > >equivalent rule in this list? I get very twitchy when conversations > >wander into the areas of religion and politics, since they tend to > >deteriorate into name calling and flames. > > > >Charlotte Foust > > > > > >-----Original Message----- > >From: Heenan, Lambert [mailto:Lambert.Heenan at aig.com] > >Sent: Friday, June 10, 2005 11:49 AM > >To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' > >Subject: RE: [AccessD] Friday humour > > > > > >Anyone care to tell us how the Earth Centric types explain stellar > >parallax? Or do they simply deny its existence as their > various 'good > >books' refer to the 'fixed stars'? > > > > > >-----Original Message----- > >From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > >[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of > Elam, Debbie > >Sent: Friday, June 10, 2005 2:39 PM > >To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' > >Subject: RE: [AccessD] Friday humour > > > > > >No it does not throw it out the window, it just makes the lovely and > >simple orbital mechanics equations into monster equations > that take a > >super computer to calculate with any proficiency. Of course those > >other planets just orbit around the sun while the whole mess orbits > >around the Earth ;-). That was the real reason it became > obvious that > >the best method of calculation was to put the sun in the > center of the > >system. The whole mess with the rings was to account for planetary > >movements. It is a little like the headaches caused when you try to > >take the Earth's total motion into account when compared to > the motion > >of another star in the milky way galaxy which is all > rotating around a > >cluster of stars in the galaxy center. Much more pleasant > to break it > >into chunks and consider the solar system a single unit when talking > >about motion with respect to the galaxy. > > > >Debbie > > > >-----Original Message----- > >From: Don Bozarth [mailto:drboz at pacbell.net] > >Sent: Friday, June 10, 2005 1:25 PM > >To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving > >Subject: Re: [AccessD] Friday humour > > > > > >Well, if the solar system is Earth centered, a lot of the > math dealing > >with planetary motion goes right out the window... not to > mention that > >little sniggle called gravity. The math of orbital > mechanics suddenly > >disappears. Were all that math wrong, we could never have made it to > >the Moon, Venus, Mars, Jupiter, Saturn, and Uranus those > places manmade > >satellites have visited. > > > >Don B. > > > >----- Original Message ----- > >From: "Elam, Debbie" <DElam at jenkens.com> > >To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'" > ><accessd at databaseadvisors.com> > >Sent: Friday, June 10, 2005 11:14 AM > >Subject: RE: [AccessD] Friday humour > > > > > > > > > >>Actually they are right. The whole thing comes down to perspective. > >>Of course the math is a heck of a lot easier if you simply consider > >>the sun > >> > >> > >the > > > > > >>center around which the solar system revolves. In this case as many > >> > >> > >others, > > > > > >>why not go with the simplest answer that gives the most correct > >> > >> > >predictions? > > > > > >>Why complicate the issue by insisting that a certain perspective has > >>to be maintained? Groan, no doubt they will call it proof. > Of course > >> > >> > > > > > > > >>the > >> > >> > >reverse > > > > > >>is just as true. No one can prove that the sun revolves around the > >>Earth, but that is a minor detail. > >> > >>Debbie > >> > >>-----Original Message----- > >>From: Jim Lawrence [mailto:accessd at shaw.ca] > >>Sent: Friday, June 10, 2005 1:00 PM > >>To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' > >>Subject: [AccessD] Friday humour > >> > >> > >>Hi All: > >> > >>When first read I thought this was a joke... but I think it is for > >>real; which of course would make it more hilarious. Check this out: > >>http://www.catholicintl.com/epologetics/articles/science/geo > challenge. > >>htm > >> > >>Jim > >> > >>-- > >>AccessD mailing list > >>AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > >>http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > >>Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > >>- JENKENS & GILCHRIST E-MAIL NOTICE - This transmission may be: (1) > >> > >> > >subject > > > > > >>to the Attorney-Client Privilege, (2) an attorney work > product, or (3) > >>strictly confidential. If you are not the intended > recipient of this > >>message, you may not disclose, print, copy or disseminate this > >> > >> > >information. > > > > > >>If you have received this in error, please reply and notify > the sender > >>(only) and delete the message. 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