[AccessD] Seeking your Access Runtime Experiences

Charlotte Foust cfoust at infostatsystems.com
Tue Mar 1 16:38:27 CST 2005


SageKey is NOT so expensive when you factor in their excellent support.
Whenever we've had problems with an installer, their help has been
outstanding.

Charlotte Foust


-----Original Message-----
From: dmcafee at pacbell.net [mailto:dmcafee at pacbell.net] 
Sent: Tuesday, March 01, 2005 2:26 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Seeking your Access Runtime Experiences


3) Be prepared to invest in (Installshield or Wise) And Sagekey etc
(preferably Wise :P )

Installshield and wise are both the packagers (either will do, but my
biased self would recommend Wise over Installshield, especially if you
don't need the MSI packager).

Sagekey is just a script that you run with either Install shield or
Wise. Think of it as code (or a function) that you are buying from
someone. Rather expensive for some sample code, but well worth it.

David

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Mark Breen
Sent: Tuesday, March 01, 2005 2:01 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Seeking your Access Runtime Experiences


Hello All you guys that replied to promptly,

firstly, as usual thank you for your detailed comments.

What I am taking from the emails is
1) Runtime is OK to use
2) Be prepared to put a little effort into custom menu's etc.
3) Be prepared to invest installshield or sagekey etc
4) Runtime is common enough.

Just to clarify to you all, the reason I am asking about runtime is that
we have 1000 pc's all with Access 97, but none are licenced for Acc2003
and we need ADO, not to mention the fact that A97 is no longer the
bleeding edge.

So, I have two choices, continue with A97 and attempt to add ADO and
deal with all the associated difficulties of running an App that is
getting a bit long in the tooth, albeit an nice ol' dear, or convert the
entire app to A2003.

It was this concept that raised the question of runtime, if I propose to
the client that they buy 1000 licences for A2003, they may get a little
fright, but if I propose the relatively small costs of getting set up
for Runtime, then it may not be an issue.

I will keep you all informed as to how it goes, but in the mean time,
thank you very much for your help and comments.

Mark Breen
Happy in Ireland with his ol' pal Access 97.

PS, perhaps next week I will build a web application with Access 2.0 and
Windows 3.1




On Tue, 1 Mar 2005 15:44:28 -0600, John Bartow <john at winhaven.net>
wrote:
> IIRC it was InstallShield.
>
> John B.
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of 
> dmcafee at pacbell.net
> Sent: Tuesday, March 01, 2005 3:01 PM
> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> Subject: RE: [AccessD] Seeking your Access Runtime Experiences
>
> I've been wondering the same thing. Didn't MS go to Wise for help
designing
> the MSI?
>
> D
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of 
> MartyConnelly
> Sent: Tuesday, March 01, 2005 12:19 PM
> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] Seeking your Access Runtime Experiences
>
> Just wondering if anyone has used the .msi file install with SageKey
rather
> than Wise or Install Shield and if there any drawbacks.
>
> Mark Breen wrote:
>
> >Hello All,
> >
> >As you may have seen, I am currently enjoying being up to my elbows 
> >in Access 97, a database with 1000 linked oracle tables and hundreds 
> >of forms, reports, queries, pass through queries, dynamically 
> >generated SQL etc and of course loads of code, no errorhandling and 
> >no comments and no documentation!
> >
> >A question arose a few days ago about migrating it to Access 2003 and

> >using the Runtime version.
> >
> >I have gone online and had a quick read of what is required for 
> >runtime, at its simplest level it seems to be to build a complete 
> >GUI, which I normally do anyway.
> >
> >The only thing that I usually depend on is the filter by form etc 
> >context menu's.
> >
> >Have you guys any comments to make on using the runtime?  Rocky, why 
> >did you not use the Runtime for EZ-MRP?  I am guessing that you 
> >evaluated it and found it troublesome.  Is that the case?
> >
> >In fact, I get the impression that most of us do not use the runtime,

> >the question I am curious about is why?  It is surely handy to lock 
> >down an app but is it a heavy handed tool?
> >
> >Thanks all for your advice,
> >
> >Mark Breen
> >Ireland
> >
> >
>
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