MartyConnelly
martyconnelly at shaw.ca
Sat Feb 25 12:46:36 CST 2006
It is not that hard to do with an mde. Here is a utility. Michael Kaplan pointed me here about 3 or 4 years ago for password cracks. MDE forms/reports extractor v2.2 MS Access 2000 add-in This utility is designed to allow you to extract the forms, reports and macros from an mde file to mdb (without the form/report class module code). It wont get the code behind the forms. http://accesstools.narod.ru/index.html Serge Gavrilov seems to be in your backyard. Shamil Salakhetdinov wrote: >All, > >Here is a Friday puzzle on subject I suppose: > >Have a look at this screenshot > >http://www.code-vb.com/help/dlg_frmProcedure.htm > >and now on this one: > >http://www.smartvba.com/methods_builder.htm > >The first (http://www.code-vb.com/help/dlg_frmProcedure.htm) - was first >time released in the beginning of the last year and the latter - in the end. > >These are not related companies. > >I know the history of the first and how it was created. > >Question: How it comes that the design of the latter company's software is >sometimes literally the same? (and many other forms are like that). > >My guess: The designs of the first were replicated manually or >decompiled (there is good VB6 decompiler - the info about it was >published here) then adjusted and published by the second company. > >Anybody believes that designs can be so similar if the second company didn't >know anything about the software products of the first? >Am I getting paranoid? > >If not, then one who publishes MDE apps may expect to see their GUI >designs (and good GUI designs is a lot of work) be published within other >companies' software... > >Shamil > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Charlotte Foust" <cfoust at infostatsystems.com> >To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving" ><accessd at databaseadvisors.com> >Sent: Friday, February 24, 2006 7:08 PM >Subject: Re: [AccessD] Hacking MDE (was Creating a demo Access app?) > > > > >>I think the threat is the same as any other knockoff, from Vuitton bags >>to Rolex watches to custom software, the customer gets something cheap >>and the original manufacturer gets ripped off. >> >>Charlotte Foust >> >> >>-----Original Message----- >>From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com >>[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Rocky Smolin >>- Beach Access Software >>Sent: Friday, February 24, 2006 6:51 AM >>To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving >>Subject: Re: [AccessD] Hacking MDE (was Creating a demo Access app?) >> >> >>I've got two products which I send out as mdes. And I worry about the >>product being knocked off, especially in China where we are beginning to >> >>make some sales with the manufacturing system. >> >>For both of them the primary intellectual value is in the code - The >>Sleep Advisor's diagnostic engine is about 7000 lines and the decision >>tree on the input side, which guides which questions to ask is about >>half that. >> >>The manufacturing system like any system could be knocked off pretty >>much by copying the design and features of the forms and reports. No >>magic there. The MRP calculation and cost-roll up program have some >>tricks in them. >> >>Nevertheless, it's not rocket science, and I suppose someone could >>duplicate the whole thing. >> >>But if a product can be duplicated pretty much by looking at the >>outside, I wonder what the real threat is here? I'm probably missing >>something. >> >>Rocky >> >> >>Bryan Carbonnell wrote: >> >> >>>On 2/24/06, Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software <bchacc at san.rr.com> >>>wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>>>But does it decompile the code? >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>Not acording to the page. >>> >>>"*You cannot alter or gain access to the original VBA code - you must >>>use Macros instead." >>> >>>-- >>>Bryan Carbonnell - carbonnb at gmail.com >>>Life's journey is not to arrive at the grave safely in a well >>>preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, totally worn out, >>>shouting "What a great ride!" >>> >>> >>> >>-- >>Rocky Smolin >>Beach Access Software >>858-259-4334 >>www.e-z-mrp.com >> >> >> >> > > -- Marty Connelly Victoria, B.C. Canada