From marklbreen at gmail.com  Wed Nov  1 02:09:20 2006
From: marklbreen at gmail.com (Mark Breen)
Date: Wed, 1 Nov 2006 08:09:20 +0000
Subject: [AccessD] Raid controller
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Hi John,

And do you host your motherboard in the case also, or just the disks?

In fact, is that even possible to have the main PC (and controller) in one
box and the disks in a remote box?

You mention that the two power supplies are not included.  So, does that
mean that you are only using one?  Surely you must be near the capacity of
the PSU?

Anyway, I am sitting in Ireland in admiration of your big disk ;)  wishing I
had only like that.

Mark










On 31/10/06, JWColby <jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com> wrote:
>
> Mark,
>
> This is a Lian Li case:
>
> http://www.newegg.com/product/product.asp?item=N82E16811112108
>
> It has dedicated space for 12 3.5" disks down in the bottom of the case as
> well as two power supplies (not included).  There is also space for SEVEN
> 5.25" drives up in the front of the case, forward of the
> motherboard.  This
> case is... shall we say "large".
>
> I really like the case.
>
> 8~)
>
>
> John W. Colby
> Colby Consulting
> www.ColbyConsulting.com
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Mark Breen
> Sent: Tuesday, October 31, 2006 12:58 PM
> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] Raid controller
>
> Hi John,
>
> What kind of box are you hosting the disks in, seven disks is quite a few,
> especially if you have a CD drive or two also.
>
> Do you have a seperate tower just for disks?  or does your existing case
> have enough space?
>
> Congrats on the controller and disks, sounds great,
>
>
> Mark
>
>
>
>
> On 31/10/06, William Hindman <wdhindman at dejpolsystems.com> wrote:
> >
> > ...thanks for the tip JC ...as a matter of fact I was about to look
> > into just that for a client :)
> >
> > William Hindman
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "JWColby" <jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com>
> > To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'"
> > <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>; "'Discussion of Hardware and Software
> > issues'" <dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>;
> > <dba-sqlserver at databaseadvisors.com>
> > Sent: Monday, October 30, 2006 9:00 PM
> > Subject: [AccessD] Raid controller
> >
> >
> > >I purchased an Areca 1220 SATA 8 disk raid controller, with (7)
> > >Seagate
> > >10.1
> > > 320 gb hard disks to create a raid system with.  One of the disks
> > >was  damaged and had to be RMAd.  I went ahead and created a Raid 5
> > >array
> > using
> > > the 6 remaining drives.  This gave me about 1.0 terra bytes on one
> > volume
> > > and about 370 gb on another volume, both Raid 5.  I just received
> > > the
> > RMAd
> > > drive back, popped it in, added it to the array and told the
> > > controller
> > to
> > > convert to Raid 6 for both volumes.  That was early this afternoon,
> > > and the controller has finished the conversion of the large array to
> > > Raid 6 and
> > is
> > > about 50% finished converting the smaller array to Raid 6, all
> > > consuming ZERO CPU and doing so while I was using the arrays pretty
> > > heavily.  The controller is also very fast.  Raid 5/6 writes are
> > > about the speed of
> > the
> > > individual drives and reads are much faster (~raid 0 speed according
> > > to
> > > Areca)
> > >
> > > These disks are about $95 from Newegg and can be purchased with free
> > > shipping if you keep your eyes open so that is a real $95 / disk.
> > > This particular controller is currently about $500.  This made my
> > > actual cost about $1200 for 1400gb in a Raid 6 config.
> > >
> > > Someday I hope that the Seagate 10.1 750 gb drives drop into this
> > > price range in which case I will upgrade.  ATM those drives are
> > > about
> > $375-$400
> > > each which makes them out of my range.
> > >
> > > I am impressed with this Areca controller which is the point of this
> > > email.
> > > Areca makes controllers that handle various numbers of disks.  The
> > > controller uses a PCI-X8 connection to the CPU so you must have a
> > > PCI-X capable motherboard.
> > >
> > > If you need more disks, they also have a 12, 16 and 24 disk
> > > controller, for more money of course.
> > >
> > > Nice controller so far!
> > >
> > > John W. Colby
> > > Colby Consulting
> > > www.ColbyConsulting.com
> > >
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From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com  Wed Nov  1 06:57:04 2006
From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (JWColby)
Date: Wed, 1 Nov 2006 07:57:04 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Raid controller
In-Reply-To: <c7fd28d00611010009j394c95deya63f220c31030b7e@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <002801c6fdb5$3b6f0fc0$657aa8c0@m6805>

Mark,

The case comes without any power supply, you purchase and install whatever
PS you desire.  Apparently there are supplies that have a cable between them
such that they "hot fail over" in case a PS dies?  Or something.  I
purchased this PS for the system:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16817121012

It is a six hundred watt supply and appears to supply plenty of current for
everything.  I did have to get splitters to get that many (and more) power
connectors for SATA.  The PS manufacturers haven't quite caught up to
reality yet and still provide most of their connections for the old style
IDE drive power.

Anyway, yes, the motherboard is in that chassis as well.  It is just a
normal, if rather oversized chassis. It has 4 120 mm fans included and keeps
everything well ventilated.  A very nice case.

As for the "big disk", it is indeed nice.  These 320gb Seagates are cheap,
at least here in the states.  At $95 each delivered to my door, they are the
lowest price / mb around, the issue is getting them all put together into a
solidly functioning raid array.  I purchased this ASUS motherboard for the
system:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16813131011

Which to be honest I am not thrilled with.  It works fine but it turns out
that the MB manufacturers in general focus on "enthusiasts" which equates to
gamers, intent on over clocking.  I need other things, like a stable, FAST
raid 5 (at least) array.  The Raid controller on this MB just doesn't work.
I got Raid 5 going and I managed to get it stable, but it was dog slow, down
around 5 mbytes / sec write time which is unusable.  That is why I went
looking for the raid card solution.  

The Areca is expensive but it is very fast.  It has a dedicated Intel
processor and about 128 mbytes of ram on the raid card so the card itself
handles all of the overhead of generating the Raid striping stuff.  It is
really too bad it is so expensive, though they are marketing to IT admins
with a budget (not me ;-).  I would have gone with the 12 or even the 16
disk controller but the extra $450 just wasn't there, and since I didn't
have to have it now...

The nice thing is that it just worked.  I plugged it in, plugged the drives
in, booted up, went in the bios and created the drive, waited several hours
while it initialized and then it all just worked.  And FAST!  Writes up
around 80 mbytes / sec and reads up around 300 mbytes / sec.  This thing is
a screamer.

John W. Colby
Colby Consulting
www.ColbyConsulting.com

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Mark Breen
Sent: Wednesday, November 01, 2006 3:09 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Raid controller

Hi John,

And do you host your motherboard in the case also, or just the disks?

In fact, is that even possible to have the main PC (and controller) in one
box and the disks in a remote box?

You mention that the two power supplies are not included.  So, does that
mean that you are only using one?  Surely you must be near the capacity of
the PSU?

Anyway, I am sitting in Ireland in admiration of your big disk ;)  wishing I
had only like that.

Mark










On 31/10/06, JWColby <jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com> wrote:
>
> Mark,
>
> This is a Lian Li case:
>
> http://www.newegg.com/product/product.asp?item=N82E16811112108
>
> It has dedicated space for 12 3.5" disks down in the bottom of the 
> case as well as two power supplies (not included).  There is also 
> space for SEVEN 5.25" drives up in the front of the case, forward of 
> the motherboard.  This case is... shall we say "large".
>
> I really like the case.
>
> 8~)
>
>
> John W. Colby
> Colby Consulting
> www.ColbyConsulting.com
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Mark Breen
> Sent: Tuesday, October 31, 2006 12:58 PM
> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] Raid controller
>
> Hi John,
>
> What kind of box are you hosting the disks in, seven disks is quite a 
> few, especially if you have a CD drive or two also.
>
> Do you have a seperate tower just for disks?  or does your existing 
> case have enough space?
>
> Congrats on the controller and disks, sounds great,
>
>
> Mark
>
>
>
>
> On 31/10/06, William Hindman <wdhindman at dejpolsystems.com> wrote:
> >
> > ...thanks for the tip JC ...as a matter of fact I was about to look 
> > into just that for a client :)
> >
> > William Hindman
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "JWColby" <jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com>
> > To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'"
> > <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>; "'Discussion of Hardware and 
> > Software issues'" <dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>; 
> > <dba-sqlserver at databaseadvisors.com>
> > Sent: Monday, October 30, 2006 9:00 PM
> > Subject: [AccessD] Raid controller
> >
> >
> > >I purchased an Areca 1220 SATA 8 disk raid controller, with (7) 
> > >Seagate
> > >10.1
> > > 320 gb hard disks to create a raid system with.  One of the disks 
> > >was  damaged and had to be RMAd.  I went ahead and created a Raid 5 
> > >array
> > using
> > > the 6 remaining drives.  This gave me about 1.0 terra bytes on one
> > volume
> > > and about 370 gb on another volume, both Raid 5.  I just received 
> > > the
> > RMAd
> > > drive back, popped it in, added it to the array and told the 
> > > controller
> > to
> > > convert to Raid 6 for both volumes.  That was early this 
> > > afternoon, and the controller has finished the conversion of the 
> > > large array to Raid 6 and
> > is
> > > about 50% finished converting the smaller array to Raid 6, all 
> > > consuming ZERO CPU and doing so while I was using the arrays 
> > > pretty heavily.  The controller is also very fast.  Raid 5/6 
> > > writes are about the speed of
> > the
> > > individual drives and reads are much faster (~raid 0 speed 
> > > according to
> > > Areca)
> > >
> > > These disks are about $95 from Newegg and can be purchased with 
> > > free shipping if you keep your eyes open so that is a real $95 / disk.
> > > This particular controller is currently about $500.  This made my 
> > > actual cost about $1200 for 1400gb in a Raid 6 config.
> > >
> > > Someday I hope that the Seagate 10.1 750 gb drives drop into this 
> > > price range in which case I will upgrade.  ATM those drives are 
> > > about
> > $375-$400
> > > each which makes them out of my range.
> > >
> > > I am impressed with this Areca controller which is the point of 
> > > this email.
> > > Areca makes controllers that handle various numbers of disks.  The 
> > > controller uses a PCI-X8 connection to the CPU so you must have a 
> > > PCI-X capable motherboard.
> > >
> > > If you need more disks, they also have a 12, 16 and 24 disk 
> > > controller, for more money of course.
> > >
> > > Nice controller so far!
> > >
> > > John W. Colby
> > > Colby Consulting
> > > www.ColbyConsulting.com
> > >
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> >
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From Gustav at cactus.dk  Wed Nov  1 08:46:03 2006
From: Gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Wed, 01 Nov 2006 15:46:03 +0100
Subject: [AccessD] Limit Text in Field
Message-ID: <s548c14d.033@cactus.dk>

Hi Arthur 

Oh, this _is_ a big deal and I'm glad you brought attention to it. An application should be user-friendly.

/gustav

>>> artful at rogers.com 01-11-2006 05:16 >>>
Slick. My only criticism is that it waits for the user to go too far, rather than cautioning the user that he is about to go too far. (I tend toward guiding users to correctness rather than busting them for errors.) Perhaps your code could be modified to write the [length] + " of 255 characters allowed" to the status bar, so the user anticipates the error rather than commits it. 

Not a big deal. I like your solution. One of my mantras is, "Make the user feel like a dancer." That means preclude error to the best of my ability, and then of course deal with it should it occur.

A.

----- Original Message ----
From: John Bartow <john at winhaven.net>
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Tuesday, October 31, 2006 1:12:03 PM
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Limit Text in Field

Hi Virginia,

FWIW, here's the on change event procedure that I use with a fax form on
which the "regarding" line field (Text 255) is not long enough for a huge
description but the txtMessage field (Memo) is:

Private Sub txtRegarding_Change()
   'Comment: prevents user form adding too much text to the regarding line
   
   On Error GoTo Form_Open_ERR
   
   If Len(Me.txtRegarding.Text) > 255 Then
      MsgBox "The regarding line can only contain 255 characters, " & _
      "please use the message box for longer text."
      Me.txtRegarding.Text = Left(Me.txtRegarding.Text, 255)
   End If

Form_Open_EXIT:
   Exit Sub
   
Form_Open_ERR:
    MsgBox Err.Description
    Resume Form_Open_EXIT
    
End Sub

HTH
John B.



From Gustav at cactus.dk  Wed Nov  1 09:22:27 2006
From: Gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Wed, 01 Nov 2006 16:22:27 +0100
Subject: [AccessD] checkbox concatenation
Message-ID: <s548c9ea.034@cactus.dk>

Hi William

Sorry for the incomplete comment.
Of course you can do bitmapping in Access VBA, even in SQL, it is just not very fast as you miss a bitmapped index to search on - that's what Cach? (as one example) has.

For some inspiration on SQL code, read up the message "Math problem" of 2003-10-15:

http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/htdig/accessd/2003-October/014778.html 

/gustav 


>>> wdhindman at dejpolsystems.com 31-10-2006 21:08 >>>
...oh come on guys! ...first its my dictionary and if I say it grows 
logarithmically then that's what it does, eh.
...geometrically! ...balderdash, I say ...where is Charlotte when we need 
her to maintain discipline? :)

...and then both Gustav and Jim do more than hint that good old Access isn't 
up to bit mapping this :(

...and of course Stuart takes a gratuitous swing at my joins ...see above 
...its MY join, eh!

...sheesh ...if this were the old AccessD ...long before daddyhood mellowed 
the hell out of JC, I'd just have him Colbyize the lot of you!

...and here I am, still as dazed and confused as when I first posted 
...early Alzheimer's anyone?

...thanks :)

William Hindman
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Jim Lawrence" <accessd at shaw.ca>
To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'" 
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Tuesday, October 31, 2006 1:46 PM
Subject: Re: [AccessD] checkbox concatenation


...and a further comment:

If the table was growing *logarithmically*, William would be delighted!  The
problem is that it is growing *geometrically*.

Reading the Cache doc, a bitmap index may just do the trick, especially as
the max number of events is probably not that large.
Since this is a sparse array problem, it may also work well with an R-tree
(as found in PostgreSQL).

Jim

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com 
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gustav Brock
Sent: Tuesday, October 31, 2006 9:10 AM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com 
Subject: Re: [AccessD] checkbox concatenation

Hi William

That would require an engine capable of bit-mapped indexing and searching.
At least one can do this, InterSystems Cach?:

http://www.intersystems.com/cache/ 

http://www.intersystems.com/cache/technology/components/bitmap/index.html 

/gustav

>>> wdhindman at dejpolsystems.com 31-10-2006 15:47:51 >>>
...given four tables

   tblContact pk ContactID fk CompanyId
   tblCompany pk CompanyID
   tbEvent pk EventID
   tblEventReg pkERID fk EventID fk CompanyD fk ContactID

...tblEventRegistration is a join table to show which contacts from which
companies attended which events.
...given that thousands of contacts attend each event, tblEventReg is
growing logarithmically

Q: is it feasible to use a numeric field in the tblContacts to replace
tblEventReg by using event checkboxes instead, assigning them a numeric
value by show and then mathematically summing them in the numeric field
...thus using one integer to represent every event attended by that contact?

...yes/no? ...pros/cons?

William Hindman




From Gustav at cactus.dk  Wed Nov  1 09:39:16 2006
From: Gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Wed, 01 Nov 2006 16:39:16 +0100
Subject: [AccessD] Posters from Microsoft
Message-ID: <s548cdd0.035@cactus.dk>

Hi all

Yes, posters:

 - Developer Roadmap for the 2007 Microsoft Office System. 
  Download this poster to view a developer roadmap for the 2007 Microsoft Office system programs, tools, services, and servers. 

 - Microsoft Office InfoPath 2007 Managed Object Model Poster. 
  Download this poster and get a deep dive into some of the new and enhanced objects in the InfoPath 2007 managed object model. 

 - Developer Map for SharePoint Products and Technologies Poster. 
  Download this poster and discover the developer roadmap for Microsoft SharePoint Products and Technologies. 

http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?familyid=771aeb45-9d27-4d1f-acd1-9b950637d64e&displaylang=en#filelist

/gustav



From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com  Wed Nov  1 09:48:00 2006
From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (JWColby)
Date: Wed, 1 Nov 2006 10:48:00 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] checkbox concatenation
In-Reply-To: <s548c9ea.034@cactus.dk>
Message-ID: <002f01c6fdcd$1cdbd5d0$657aa8c0@m6805>

LOL.  You must forget what daddyhood is like William.  Mellowing it is not!

Out the door without a parachute I say.

Back to your problem, what is the issue, simply the size of the eventreg
table?  Is it up in the millions of records?  Hundreds of millions?  It
seems unlikely that it really matters as long as it is properly indexed.

John W. Colby
Colby Consulting
www.ColbyConsulting.com

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gustav Brock
Sent: Wednesday, November 01, 2006 10:22 AM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: Re: [AccessD] checkbox concatenation

Hi William

Sorry for the incomplete comment.
Of course you can do bitmapping in Access VBA, even in SQL, it is just not
very fast as you miss a bitmapped index to search on - that's what Cach? (as
one example) has.

For some inspiration on SQL code, read up the message "Math problem" of
2003-10-15:

http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/htdig/accessd/2003-October/014778.html 

/gustav 


>>> wdhindman at dejpolsystems.com 31-10-2006 21:08 >>>
...oh come on guys! ...first its my dictionary and if I say it grows
logarithmically then that's what it does, eh.
...geometrically! ...balderdash, I say ...where is Charlotte when we need
her to maintain discipline? :)

...and then both Gustav and Jim do more than hint that good old Access isn't
up to bit mapping this :(

...and of course Stuart takes a gratuitous swing at my joins ...see above
...its MY join, eh!

...sheesh ...if this were the old AccessD ...long before daddyhood mellowed
the hell out of JC, I'd just have him Colbyize the lot of you!

...and here I am, still as dazed and confused as when I first posted
...early Alzheimer's anyone?

...thanks :)

William Hindman
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jim Lawrence" <accessd at shaw.ca>
To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'" 
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Tuesday, October 31, 2006 1:46 PM
Subject: Re: [AccessD] checkbox concatenation


...and a further comment:

If the table was growing *logarithmically*, William would be delighted!  The
problem is that it is growing *geometrically*.

Reading the Cache doc, a bitmap index may just do the trick, especially as
the max number of events is probably not that large.
Since this is a sparse array problem, it may also work well with an R-tree
(as found in PostgreSQL).

Jim

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com 
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gustav Brock
Sent: Tuesday, October 31, 2006 9:10 AM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com 
Subject: Re: [AccessD] checkbox concatenation

Hi William

That would require an engine capable of bit-mapped indexing and searching.
At least one can do this, InterSystems Cach?:

http://www.intersystems.com/cache/ 

http://www.intersystems.com/cache/technology/components/bitmap/index.html 

/gustav

>>> wdhindman at dejpolsystems.com 31-10-2006 15:47:51 >>>
...given four tables

   tblContact pk ContactID fk CompanyId
   tblCompany pk CompanyID
   tbEvent pk EventID
   tblEventReg pkERID fk EventID fk CompanyD fk ContactID

...tblEventRegistration is a join table to show which contacts from which
companies attended which events.
...given that thousands of contacts attend each event, tblEventReg is
growing logarithmically

Q: is it feasible to use a numeric field in the tblContacts to replace
tblEventReg by using event checkboxes instead, assigning them a numeric
value by show and then mathematically summing them in the numeric field
...thus using one integer to represent every event attended by that contact?

...yes/no? ...pros/cons?

William Hindman


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From cfoust at infostatsystems.com  Wed Nov  1 10:16:48 2006
From: cfoust at infostatsystems.com (Charlotte Foust)
Date: Wed, 1 Nov 2006 08:16:48 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] Ideas wanted for Office project requirements
In-Reply-To: <59A61174B1F5B54B97FD4ADDE71E7D0116AC6A@ddi-01.DDI.local>
Message-ID: <F55048AF7E974F429BB24597D7355EEA178261@INFOSERVER04.infostat.local>

I rebuilt a system somewhat like that a few years back for the US Bureau
of Reclamation.  They produced a report annually (well, it was SUPPOSED
to be annually) by extracting data from a mainframe dumping it into
Excel, copying and pasting into a Word doc and then (theoretically)
totalling the whole thing up and printing an 80+ page report as mandated
by statute.  You'd be better off giving the managers a run-time Access
app to enter their data, with a button to push to transmit it to a
central location.  Of course, it would be better if they simply linked
to a central back end, but I'm assuming for the moment that isn't
feasible.  Then you need a single app to import the data and
redistribute it into the appropriate tables.  Then just create the
report in Access or do a merge with Word if you want pretty formatting.

You could certainly do it using Office automation, but you would never
have the central data store at hand should a report need tweaking, and
you would have to find a way to cross-foot and validate any values month
by month.

Charlotte Foust 

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Michael
Maddison
Sent: Tuesday, October 31, 2006 6:31 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: [AccessD] Ideas wanted for Office project requirements

 Hi all,

Slightly OT.  

I have a client who wants to automate a report writing process.

Currently they have about 30 managers who once a month send either a
Excel workbook or Word doc to some lucky person.  He/she then extracts
the contents of each file and pastes it into a Word doc to be made into
a report.

I don't do much with Office these days so maybe someone will have an
easy solution???

Step 1
My favoured idea so far is to create a Com-addin for Word/Excel that
will take selected text/objects and paste them into a blank file, the
copy the file to a file share.

Step 2 the person who collates the files has another addin that loops
through the contents of the share dir and opens and copies the contents
into fields/bookmarks(?) in a Word doc.

A 3rd component may be needed to sync the whole schmoozle.


I wonder how sturdy a process like this would be...

All responses welcome (except abuse... lol)

cheers



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From john at winhaven.net  Wed Nov  1 11:34:05 2006
From: john at winhaven.net (John Bartow)
Date: Wed, 1 Nov 2006 11:34:05 -0600
Subject: [AccessD] A2k3 system.mdw
In-Reply-To: <021101c6fd0e$16570910$1402a8c0@ScuzzPaq>
Message-ID: <008101c6fddb$ee2512b0$1402a8c0@ScuzzPaq>

OK then, I guess not.

Can someone email me theirs?

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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
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Sent: Tuesday, October 31, 2006 11:01 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] A2k3 system.mdw

When I open my System.mdw file with A2k3 it asks whether I want to open or
convert it. This makes me I think I overwrote my default system.mdw file. I
don't use Access's security but I would like to have the correct version on
my system. Anyone know an easy way to extract the original form the setup
disk?
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From dwaters at usinternet.com  Wed Nov  1 11:45:52 2006
From: dwaters at usinternet.com (Dan Waters)
Date: Wed, 1 Nov 2006 11:45:52 -0600
Subject: [AccessD] A2k3 system.mdw
In-Reply-To: <10646833.1162402838723.JavaMail.root@sniper30>
Message-ID: <000301c6fddd$93c46800$0200a8c0@danwaters>

John,

This might be a long shot but you might do a 'Detect and Repair' for Office.
It might ask you to install the setup disk.

Dan 
 
-----Original Message-----
Subject: Re: [AccessD] A2k3 system.mdw

OK then, I guess not.

Can someone email me theirs?

-----Original Message-----
Subject: [AccessD] A2k3 system.mdw

When I open my System.mdw file with A2k3 it asks whether I want to open or
convert it. This makes me I think I overwrote my default system.mdw file. I
don't use Access's security but I would like to have the correct version on
my system. Anyone know an easy way to extract the original form the setup
disk?
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From JRojas at tnco-inc.com  Wed Nov  1 13:36:52 2006
From: JRojas at tnco-inc.com (Joe Rojas)
Date: Wed, 1 Nov 2006 14:36:52 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Dealing with single quotes and double quotes at the same
	time
Message-ID: <758E92433C4F3740B67BE4DD369AF5772EDEC3@ex2k3.corp.tnco-inc.com>

Hello,

If I construct a string in VBA that contains the following string:
1' 5"

How could I update a field using DoCmd.RunSQL?
I know how to handle this if the string only contains a single quote OR
a double quote but not if the string contains both.

Thanks,
Joe Rojas
IT Manager
TNCO, Inc.
781-447-6661 x7506
jrojas at tnco-inc.com


From gjgiever at myway.com  Wed Nov  1 13:45:28 2006
From: gjgiever at myway.com (Gary J. Giever)
Date: Wed,  1 Nov 2006 14:45:28 -0500 (EST)
Subject: [AccessD] Find And Replace
Message-ID: <20061101194529.06441676B4@mprdmxin.myway.com>


Last week someone here recommended Rick Fisher's Find And Replace.  I check it out, liked it and emailed my registration last Monday morning.  Usually, with this kind of transaction, I get a response with a registration number within an hour or so, but it has been more than two days and I have yet to hear from him. Does anyone know if he is still in business?
  


Gary J. Giever, M.A.
Applications Developer
ACCMHS

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From askolits at ot.com  Wed Nov  1 13:57:28 2006
From: askolits at ot.com (John Skolits)
Date: Wed, 1 Nov 2006 14:57:28 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Find And Replace
In-Reply-To: <20061101194529.06441676B4@mprdmxin.myway.com>
Message-ID: <00a101c6fdef$f5de1060$800101df@officexp>

Pretty sure he's still in business. He returned an email I sent about 2
months ago.

p.s. Great program. I use it practically every day.


 

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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gary J. Giever
Sent: Wednesday, November 01, 2006 2:45 PM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [AccessD] Find And Replace


Last week someone here recommended Rick Fisher's Find And Replace.  I check
it out, liked it and emailed my registration last Monday morning.  Usually,
with this kind of transaction, I get a response with a registration number
within an hour or so, but it has been more than two days and I have yet to
hear from him. Does anyone know if he is still in business?
  


Gary J. Giever, M.A.
Applications Developer
ACCMHS

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From askolits at ot.com  Wed Nov  1 14:01:46 2006
From: askolits at ot.com (John Skolits)
Date: Wed, 1 Nov 2006 15:01:46 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Dealing with single quotes and double quotes at the
	sametime
In-Reply-To: <758E92433C4F3740B67BE4DD369AF5772EDEC3@ex2k3.corp.tnco-inc.com>
Message-ID: <03d601c6fdf0$92b9b420$6501a8c0@LaptopXP>

In the past I have used CHR$(34) for a double quote and CHR$(39) for a
single quote.

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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Joe Rojas
Sent: Wednesday, November 01, 2006 2:37 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: [AccessD] Dealing with single quotes and double quotes at the
sametime

Hello,

If I construct a string in VBA that contains the following string:
1' 5"

How could I update a field using DoCmd.RunSQL?
I know how to handle this if the string only contains a single quote OR
a double quote but not if the string contains both.

Thanks,
Joe Rojas
IT Manager
TNCO, Inc.
781-447-6661 x7506
jrojas at tnco-inc.com
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From askolits at ot.com  Wed Nov  1 14:05:20 2006
From: askolits at ot.com (John Skolits)
Date: Wed, 1 Nov 2006 15:05:20 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Dealing with single quotes and double quotes at the
	sametime
In-Reply-To: <758E92433C4F3740B67BE4DD369AF5772EDEC3@ex2k3.corp.tnco-inc.com>
Message-ID: <03d901c6fdf1$11c0c6f0$6501a8c0@LaptopXP>

Here's an example

strText = "1" & chr$(39) & " 5" & chr$(34)

In this case strText would return - 1' 5"

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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Joe Rojas
Sent: Wednesday, November 01, 2006 2:37 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: [AccessD] Dealing with single quotes and double quotes at the
sametime

Hello,

If I construct a string in VBA that contains the following string:
1' 5"

How could I update a field using DoCmd.RunSQL?
I know how to handle this if the string only contains a single quote OR
a double quote but not if the string contains both.

Thanks,
Joe Rojas
IT Manager
TNCO, Inc.
781-447-6661 x7506
jrojas at tnco-inc.com
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From JRojas at tnco-inc.com  Wed Nov  1 14:12:20 2006
From: JRojas at tnco-inc.com (Joe Rojas)
Date: Wed, 1 Nov 2006 15:12:20 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Dealing with single quotes and double quotes at
	thesametime
Message-ID: <758E92433C4F3740B67BE4DD369AF5772EDEC4@ex2k3.corp.tnco-inc.com>

Thanks for the reply John,

If I were to construct a string using your example:
strText = "1" & chr$(39) & " 5" & chr$(34)

and then executed a statement of :
DoCmd.RunSQL "Update someTable SET fieldname = '" & strText & "' WHERE
someField = someValue"

Won't this generate an error because the DoCmd.RunSQL will get confused
with the mixture of quotes and double quotes?

Thanks,
Joe Rojas
IT Manager
TNCO, Inc.
781-447-6661 x7506
jrojas at tnco-inc.com


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of John Skolits
Sent: Wednesday, November 01, 2006 3:05 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Dealing with single quotes and double quotes at
thesametime

Here's an example

strText = "1" & chr$(39) & " 5" & chr$(34)

In this case strText would return - 1' 5"

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Joe Rojas
Sent: Wednesday, November 01, 2006 2:37 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: [AccessD] Dealing with single quotes and double quotes at the
sametime

Hello,

If I construct a string in VBA that contains the following string:
1' 5"

How could I update a field using DoCmd.RunSQL?
I know how to handle this if the string only contains a single quote OR
a double quote but not if the string contains both.

Thanks,
Joe Rojas
IT Manager
TNCO, Inc.
781-447-6661 x7506
jrojas at tnco-inc.com
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From Lambert.Heenan at AIG.com  Wed Nov  1 14:52:26 2006
From: Lambert.Heenan at AIG.com (Heenan, Lambert)
Date: Wed, 1 Nov 2006 14:52:26 -0600 
Subject: [AccessD] Find And Replace
Message-ID: <E762D59BC2D0694998629044C75FA2850330E9CD@xlivmbx26.aig.com>

If I recall correctly, if was a few days before I got my key emailed to me
too (that was a couple of years ago). I might have jogged his elbow with a
quick enquiry email.

He's a one man band as far as I know, and so may get a bit behind, but it is
a great tool, so worth the effort to get it set up.

Lambert

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of John Skolits
Sent: Wednesday, November 01, 2006 2:57 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Find And Replace


Pretty sure he's still in business. He returned an email I sent about 2
months ago.

p.s. Great program. I use it practically every day.


 

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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gary J. Giever
Sent: Wednesday, November 01, 2006 2:45 PM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [AccessD] Find And Replace


Last week someone here recommended Rick Fisher's Find And Replace.  I check
it out, liked it and emailed my registration last Monday morning.  Usually,
with this kind of transaction, I get a response with a registration number
within an hour or so, but it has been more than two days and I have yet to
hear from him. Does anyone know if he is still in business?
  


Gary J. Giever, M.A.
Applications Developer
ACCMHS

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From askolits at ot.com  Wed Nov  1 15:02:13 2006
From: askolits at ot.com (John Skolits)
Date: Wed, 1 Nov 2006 16:02:13 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Dealing with single quotes and double quotes
	atthesametime
In-Reply-To: <758E92433C4F3740B67BE4DD369AF5772EDEC4@ex2k3.corp.tnco-inc.com>
Message-ID: <03ed01c6fdf9$047fdb90$6501a8c0@LaptopXP>

I have to run out so I can' test it, but it should still work. Just try a
few different iterations and I'm sure you'll figure it out.


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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Joe Rojas
Sent: Wednesday, November 01, 2006 3:12 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Dealing with single quotes and double quotes
atthesametime

Thanks for the reply John,

If I were to construct a string using your example:
strText = "1" & chr$(39) & " 5" & chr$(34)

and then executed a statement of :
DoCmd.RunSQL "Update someTable SET fieldname = '" & strText & "' WHERE
someField = someValue"

Won't this generate an error because the DoCmd.RunSQL will get confused
with the mixture of quotes and double quotes?

Thanks,
Joe Rojas
IT Manager
TNCO, Inc.
781-447-6661 x7506
jrojas at tnco-inc.com


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of John Skolits
Sent: Wednesday, November 01, 2006 3:05 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Dealing with single quotes and double quotes at
thesametime

Here's an example

strText = "1" & chr$(39) & " 5" & chr$(34)

In this case strText would return - 1' 5"

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Joe Rojas
Sent: Wednesday, November 01, 2006 2:37 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: [AccessD] Dealing with single quotes and double quotes at the
sametime

Hello,

If I construct a string in VBA that contains the following string:
1' 5"

How could I update a field using DoCmd.RunSQL?
I know how to handle this if the string only contains a single quote OR
a double quote but not if the string contains both.

Thanks,
Joe Rojas
IT Manager
TNCO, Inc.
781-447-6661 x7506
jrojas at tnco-inc.com
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From gjgiever at myway.com  Wed Nov  1 15:27:24 2006
From: gjgiever at myway.com (Gary J. Giever)
Date: Wed,  1 Nov 2006 16:27:24 -0500 (EST)
Subject: [AccessD] Find And Replace
Message-ID: <20061101212724.BDE7B99DFD@mprdmxin.myway.com>


Thanks.  I shall be patient.


Gary J. Giever, M.A.
Applications Developer
ACCMHS



 --- On Wed 11/01, Heenan, Lambert < Lambert.Heenan at aig.com > wrote:
From: Heenan, Lambert [mailto: Lambert.Heenan at aig.com]
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Date: Wed, 1 Nov 2006 14:52:26 -0600
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Find And Replace

If I recall correctly, if was a few days before I got my key emailed to metoo (that was a couple of years ago). I might have jogged his elbow with aquick enquiry email.He's a one man band as far as I know, and so may get a bit behind, but it isa great tool, so worth the effort to get it set up.Lambert-----Original Message-----From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of John SkolitsSent: Wednesday, November 01, 2006 2:57 PMTo: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'Subject: Re: [AccessD] Find And ReplacePretty sure he's still in business. He returned an email I sent about 2months ago.p.s. Great program. I use it practically every day. -----Original Message-----From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gary J. GieverSent: Wednesday, November 01, 2006 2:45 PMTo: accessd at databaseadvisors.comSubject: [AccessD] Find And ReplaceLast week someone here 
recommended Rick Fisher's Find And Replace.  I checkit out, liked it and emailed my registration last Monday morning.  Usually,with this kind of transaction, I get a response with a registration numberwithin an hour or so, but it has been more than two days and I have yet tohear from him. Does anyone know if he is still in business?  Gary J. Giever, M.A.Applications DeveloperACCMHS_______________________________________________No banners. No pop-ups. No kidding.Make My Way  your home on the Web - http://www.myway.com-- AccessD mailing listAccessD at databaseadvisors.comhttp://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessdWebsite: http://www.databaseadvisors.com-- AccessD mailing listAccessD at databaseadvisors.comhttp://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessdWebsite: http://www.databaseadvisors.com-- AccessD mailing listAccessD at databaseadvisors.comhttp://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessdWebsite: http://www.databaseadvisors.com

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From dw-murphy at cox.net  Wed Nov  1 15:38:48 2006
From: dw-murphy at cox.net (Doug Murphy)
Date: Wed, 1 Nov 2006 13:38:48 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] Find And Replace
In-Reply-To: <20061101194529.06441676B4@mprdmxin.myway.com>
Message-ID: <002301c6fdfe$1d5d4490$0200a8c0@murphy3234aaf1>

Gary,

I purchased it last week for Access 2003 and got an email response the same
day.  You might want to check with Rick to make sure he received your info.

Doug 

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Sent: Wednesday, November 01, 2006 11:45 AM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [AccessD] Find And Replace


Last week someone here recommended Rick Fisher's Find And Replace.  I check
it out, liked it and emailed my registration last Monday morning.  Usually,
with this kind of transaction, I get a response with a registration number
within an hour or so, but it has been more than two days and I have yet to
hear from him. Does anyone know if he is still in business?
  


Gary J. Giever, M.A.
Applications Developer
ACCMHS

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From stuart at lexacorp.com.pg  Wed Nov  1 15:58:52 2006
From: stuart at lexacorp.com.pg (Stuart McLachlan)
Date: Thu, 02 Nov 2006 07:58:52 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] Dealing with single quotes and double quotes at the
	same time
In-Reply-To: <758E92433C4F3740B67BE4DD369AF5772EDEC3@ex2k3.corp.tnco-inc.com>
References: <758E92433C4F3740B67BE4DD369AF5772EDEC3@ex2k3.corp.tnco-inc.com>
Message-ID: <4549189C.13025.12987464@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>

On 1 Nov 2006 at 14:36, Joe Rojas wrote:

> Hello,
> 
> If I construct a string in VBA that contains the following string:
> 1' 5"
> 
> How could I update a field using DoCmd.RunSQL?
> I know how to handle this if the string only contains a single quote OR a
> double quote but not if the string contains both.

Escape both quotes by doubling them.  Following example has extra spaces to 
show it more clearly, there shouldn't be any spaces between any of the 
quotes.:

strSQL = " Set myfield = ' 1 '  '  5 " "  '   "



-- 
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From stuart at lexacorp.com.pg  Wed Nov  1 16:07:59 2006
From: stuart at lexacorp.com.pg (Stuart McLachlan)
Date: Thu, 02 Nov 2006 08:07:59 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] Posters from Microsoft
In-Reply-To: <s548cdd0.035@cactus.dk>
References: <s548cdd0.035@cactus.dk>
Message-ID: <45491ABF.1678.12A0CE06@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>

On 1 Nov 2006 at 16:39, Gustav Brock wrote:


>  - Developer Roadmap for the 2007 Microsoft Office System. 
>   Download this poster to view a developer roadmap for the 2007 Microsoft
>   Office system programs, tools, services, and servers. 
> 

Why the f... would they wrap a single  600KB PDF file in a full installer 
exe?

But then I guess that's farily standard for MS - just add totally 
unnecessary bloat to everything :-(
 -- 
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From michael at ddisolutions.com.au  Wed Nov  1 16:36:14 2006
From: michael at ddisolutions.com.au (Michael Maddison)
Date: Thu, 2 Nov 2006 09:36:14 +1100
Subject: [AccessD] Ideas wanted for Office project requirements
Message-ID: <59A61174B1F5B54B97FD4ADDE71E7D0116AC70@ddi-01.DDI.local>

 Thanks Charlotte,

They are also looking at Sharepoint as an option.
I think they just want to know what options they have.
I initially proposed a database solution, we also have a live system
that collates various data
from multiple sources to create a govt dept annual report.  We could
have adapted that but
they didn't seem interested.

I put a nice high price on it so we'll see what happens ;-)))

cheers

Michael M


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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Charlotte
Foust
Sent: Thursday, 2 November 2006 3:17 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Ideas wanted for Office project requirements

I rebuilt a system somewhat like that a few years back for the US Bureau
of Reclamation.  They produced a report annually (well, it was SUPPOSED
to be annually) by extracting data from a mainframe dumping it into
Excel, copying and pasting into a Word doc and then (theoretically)
totalling the whole thing up and printing an 80+ page report as mandated
by statute.  You'd be better off giving the managers a run-time Access
app to enter their data, with a button to push to transmit it to a
central location.  Of course, it would be better if they simply linked
to a central back end, but I'm assuming for the moment that isn't
feasible.  Then you need a single app to import the data and
redistribute it into the appropriate tables.  Then just create the
report in Access or do a merge with Word if you want pretty formatting.

You could certainly do it using Office automation, but you would never
have the central data store at hand should a report need tweaking, and
you would have to find a way to cross-foot and validate any values month
by month.

Charlotte Foust 

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Michael
Maddison
Sent: Tuesday, October 31, 2006 6:31 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: [AccessD] Ideas wanted for Office project requirements

 Hi all,

Slightly OT.  

I have a client who wants to automate a report writing process.

Currently they have about 30 managers who once a month send either a
Excel workbook or Word doc to some lucky person.  He/she then extracts
the contents of each file and pastes it into a Word doc to be made into
a report.

I don't do much with Office these days so maybe someone will have an
easy solution???

Step 1
My favoured idea so far is to create a Com-addin for Word/Excel that
will take selected text/objects and paste them into a blank file, the
copy the file to a file share.

Step 2 the person who collates the files has another addin that loops
through the contents of the share dir and opens and copies the contents
into fields/bookmarks(?) in a Word doc.

A 3rd component may be needed to sync the whole schmoozle.


I wonder how sturdy a process like this would be...

All responses welcome (except abuse... lol)

cheers



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From wdhindman at dejpolsystems.com  Wed Nov  1 23:05:34 2006
From: wdhindman at dejpolsystems.com (William Hindman)
Date: Thu, 2 Nov 2006 00:05:34 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Ideas wanted for Office project requirements
References: <59A61174B1F5B54B97FD4ADDE71E7D0116AC70@ddi-01.DDI.local>
Message-ID: <022d01c6fe3c$8796fcf0$3e3de844@50NM721>

Michael

...I've done something similar using an RTF ocx from lebans site ...each of 
the individual reports is actually an rtf formatted text field in a table in 
the be mdb ...each user only sees the portions they are responsible for 
...the final product is a pretty simple report assembling and formatting 
the individual rtf records.

...the rtf format gives the user most of Word's text formatting abilities 
while retaining the advantages of a database and Access' capable report 
writer ...user response has been very positive.

William Hindman

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Michael Maddison" <michael at ddisolutions.com.au>
To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving" 
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Wednesday, November 01, 2006 5:36 PM
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Ideas wanted for Office project requirements


> Thanks Charlotte,
>
> They are also looking at Sharepoint as an option.
> I think they just want to know what options they have.
> I initially proposed a database solution, we also have a live system
> that collates various data
> from multiple sources to create a govt dept annual report.  We could
> have adapted that but
> they didn't seem interested.
>
> I put a nice high price on it so we'll see what happens ;-)))
>
> cheers
>
> Michael M
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Charlotte
> Foust
> Sent: Thursday, 2 November 2006 3:17 AM
> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] Ideas wanted for Office project requirements
>
> I rebuilt a system somewhat like that a few years back for the US Bureau
> of Reclamation.  They produced a report annually (well, it was SUPPOSED
> to be annually) by extracting data from a mainframe dumping it into
> Excel, copying and pasting into a Word doc and then (theoretically)
> totalling the whole thing up and printing an 80+ page report as mandated
> by statute.  You'd be better off giving the managers a run-time Access
> app to enter their data, with a button to push to transmit it to a
> central location.  Of course, it would be better if they simply linked
> to a central back end, but I'm assuming for the moment that isn't
> feasible.  Then you need a single app to import the data and
> redistribute it into the appropriate tables.  Then just create the
> report in Access or do a merge with Word if you want pretty formatting.
>
> You could certainly do it using Office automation, but you would never
> have the central data store at hand should a report need tweaking, and
> you would have to find a way to cross-foot and validate any values month
> by month.
>
> Charlotte Foust
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Michael
> Maddison
> Sent: Tuesday, October 31, 2006 6:31 PM
> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> Subject: [AccessD] Ideas wanted for Office project requirements
>
> Hi all,
>
> Slightly OT.
>
> I have a client who wants to automate a report writing process.
>
> Currently they have about 30 managers who once a month send either a
> Excel workbook or Word doc to some lucky person.  He/she then extracts
> the contents of each file and pastes it into a Word doc to be made into
> a report.
>
> I don't do much with Office these days so maybe someone will have an
> easy solution???
>
> Step 1
> My favoured idea so far is to create a Com-addin for Word/Excel that
> will take selected text/objects and paste them into a blank file, the
> copy the file to a file share.
>
> Step 2 the person who collates the files has another addin that loops
> through the contents of the share dir and opens and copies the contents
> into fields/bookmarks(?) in a Word doc.
>
> A 3rd component may be needed to sync the whole schmoozle.
>
>
> I wonder how sturdy a process like this would be...
>
> All responses welcome (except abuse... lol)
>
> cheers
>
>
>
> Michael M
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From michael at ddisolutions.com.au  Wed Nov  1 23:36:48 2006
From: michael at ddisolutions.com.au (Michael Maddison)
Date: Thu, 2 Nov 2006 16:36:48 +1100
Subject: [AccessD] Ideas wanted for Office project requirements
Message-ID: <59A61174B1F5B54B97FD4ADDE71E7D0116AC75@ddi-01.DDI.local>

 Hi William,

Unfortunately they insist on embedding charts and Excel data in the
final report.
I don't think rtf can handle that can it?
If it does it would make the process a bit less unwieldy, much easier to
move
data around rather then a bunch files.

cheers

Michael M


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of William
Hindman
Sent: Thursday, 2 November 2006 4:06 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Ideas wanted for Office project requirements

Michael

...I've done something similar using an RTF ocx from lebans site ...each
of the individual reports is actually an rtf formatted text field in a
table in the be mdb ...each user only sees the portions they are
responsible for ...the final product is a pretty simple report
assembling and formatting the individual rtf records.

...the rtf format gives the user most of Word's text formatting
abilities while retaining the advantages of a database and Access'
capable report writer ...user response has been very positive.

William Hindman

----- Original Message -----
From: "Michael Maddison" <michael at ddisolutions.com.au>
To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving" 
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Wednesday, November 01, 2006 5:36 PM
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Ideas wanted for Office project requirements


> Thanks Charlotte,
>
> They are also looking at Sharepoint as an option.
> I think they just want to know what options they have.
> I initially proposed a database solution, we also have a live system
> that collates various data
> from multiple sources to create a govt dept annual report.  We could
> have adapted that but
> they didn't seem interested.
>
> I put a nice high price on it so we'll see what happens ;-)))
>
> cheers
>
> Michael M
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Charlotte
> Foust
> Sent: Thursday, 2 November 2006 3:17 AM
> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] Ideas wanted for Office project requirements
>
> I rebuilt a system somewhat like that a few years back for the US
Bureau
> of Reclamation.  They produced a report annually (well, it was
SUPPOSED
> to be annually) by extracting data from a mainframe dumping it into
> Excel, copying and pasting into a Word doc and then (theoretically)
> totalling the whole thing up and printing an 80+ page report as
mandated
> by statute.  You'd be better off giving the managers a run-time Access
> app to enter their data, with a button to push to transmit it to a
> central location.  Of course, it would be better if they simply linked
> to a central back end, but I'm assuming for the moment that isn't
> feasible.  Then you need a single app to import the data and
> redistribute it into the appropriate tables.  Then just create the
> report in Access or do a merge with Word if you want pretty
formatting.
>
> You could certainly do it using Office automation, but you would never
> have the central data store at hand should a report need tweaking, and
> you would have to find a way to cross-foot and validate any values
month
> by month.
>
> Charlotte Foust
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Michael
> Maddison
> Sent: Tuesday, October 31, 2006 6:31 PM
> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> Subject: [AccessD] Ideas wanted for Office project requirements
>
> Hi all,
>
> Slightly OT.
>
> I have a client who wants to automate a report writing process.
>
> Currently they have about 30 managers who once a month send either a
> Excel workbook or Word doc to some lucky person.  He/she then extracts
> the contents of each file and pastes it into a Word doc to be made
into
> a report.
>
> I don't do much with Office these days so maybe someone will have an
> easy solution???
>
> Step 1
> My favoured idea so far is to create a Com-addin for Word/Excel that
> will take selected text/objects and paste them into a blank file, the
> copy the file to a file share.
>
> Step 2 the person who collates the files has another addin that loops
> through the contents of the share dir and opens and copies the
contents
> into fields/bookmarks(?) in a Word doc.
>
> A 3rd component may be needed to sync the whole schmoozle.
>
>
> I wonder how sturdy a process like this would be...
>
> All responses welcome (except abuse... lol)
>
> cheers
>
>
>
> Michael M
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From wdhindman at dejpolsystems.com  Thu Nov  2 00:35:51 2006
From: wdhindman at dejpolsystems.com (William Hindman)
Date: Thu, 2 Nov 2006 01:35:51 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Ideas wanted for Office project requirements
References: <59A61174B1F5B54B97FD4ADDE71E7D0116AC75@ddi-01.DDI.local>
Message-ID: <024901c6fe49$24bfb8d0$3e3de844@50NM721>

...I use subreports to handle very limited charts ...it works within the 
limitations of the Access report engine ...but if you mean actually 
embedding them so that they can be edited in Excel then of course Access 
won't let you do that afaik ...although you can embed urls in the rtf so 
that a separate edit window could be opened and then update the sub reports.

...I believe you can also import an Excel file into Access and then output 
it as rtf although I've not done that myself ...if you can convert it to rtf 
in that way you may well be able to stuff the results into a table field as 
rtf text data ...might be worth experimenting with ...rtf does support tabs 
which are roughly equivalent to columns so it at least sounds feasible.

...you may also want to look at what you can do with adobe's PDF writer

William Hindman
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Michael Maddison" <michael at ddisolutions.com.au>
To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving" 
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Thursday, November 02, 2006 12:36 AM
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Ideas wanted for Office project requirements


> Hi William,
>
> Unfortunately they insist on embedding charts and Excel data in the
> final report.
> I don't think rtf can handle that can it?
> If it does it would make the process a bit less unwieldy, much easier to
> move
> data around rather then a bunch files.
>
> cheers
>
> Michael M
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of William
> Hindman
> Sent: Thursday, 2 November 2006 4:06 PM
> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] Ideas wanted for Office project requirements
>
> Michael
>
> ...I've done something similar using an RTF ocx from lebans site ...each
> of the individual reports is actually an rtf formatted text field in a
> table in the be mdb ...each user only sees the portions they are
> responsible for ...the final product is a pretty simple report
> assembling and formatting the individual rtf records.
>
> ...the rtf format gives the user most of Word's text formatting
> abilities while retaining the advantages of a database and Access'
> capable report writer ...user response has been very positive.
>
> William Hindman
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Michael Maddison" <michael at ddisolutions.com.au>
> To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving"
> <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, November 01, 2006 5:36 PM
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] Ideas wanted for Office project requirements
>
>
>> Thanks Charlotte,
>>
>> They are also looking at Sharepoint as an option.
>> I think they just want to know what options they have.
>> I initially proposed a database solution, we also have a live system
>> that collates various data
>> from multiple sources to create a govt dept annual report.  We could
>> have adapted that but
>> they didn't seem interested.
>>
>> I put a nice high price on it so we'll see what happens ;-)))
>>
>> cheers
>>
>> Michael M
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Charlotte
>> Foust
>> Sent: Thursday, 2 November 2006 3:17 AM
>> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
>> Subject: Re: [AccessD] Ideas wanted for Office project requirements
>>
>> I rebuilt a system somewhat like that a few years back for the US
> Bureau
>> of Reclamation.  They produced a report annually (well, it was
> SUPPOSED
>> to be annually) by extracting data from a mainframe dumping it into
>> Excel, copying and pasting into a Word doc and then (theoretically)
>> totalling the whole thing up and printing an 80+ page report as
> mandated
>> by statute.  You'd be better off giving the managers a run-time Access
>> app to enter their data, with a button to push to transmit it to a
>> central location.  Of course, it would be better if they simply linked
>> to a central back end, but I'm assuming for the moment that isn't
>> feasible.  Then you need a single app to import the data and
>> redistribute it into the appropriate tables.  Then just create the
>> report in Access or do a merge with Word if you want pretty
> formatting.
>>
>> You could certainly do it using Office automation, but you would never
>> have the central data store at hand should a report need tweaking, and
>> you would have to find a way to cross-foot and validate any values
> month
>> by month.
>>
>> Charlotte Foust
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Michael
>> Maddison
>> Sent: Tuesday, October 31, 2006 6:31 PM
>> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
>> Subject: [AccessD] Ideas wanted for Office project requirements
>>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> Slightly OT.
>>
>> I have a client who wants to automate a report writing process.
>>
>> Currently they have about 30 managers who once a month send either a
>> Excel workbook or Word doc to some lucky person.  He/she then extracts
>> the contents of each file and pastes it into a Word doc to be made
> into
>> a report.
>>
>> I don't do much with Office these days so maybe someone will have an
>> easy solution???
>>
>> Step 1
>> My favoured idea so far is to create a Com-addin for Word/Excel that
>> will take selected text/objects and paste them into a blank file, the
>> copy the file to a file share.
>>
>> Step 2 the person who collates the files has another addin that loops
>> through the contents of the share dir and opens and copies the
> contents
>> into fields/bookmarks(?) in a Word doc.
>>
>> A 3rd component may be needed to sync the whole schmoozle.
>>
>>
>> I wonder how sturdy a process like this would be...
>>
>> All responses welcome (except abuse... lol)
>>
>> cheers
>>
>>
>>
>> Michael M
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From gjgiever at myway.com  Thu Nov  2 06:23:29 2006
From: gjgiever at myway.com (Gary J. Giever)
Date: Thu,  2 Nov 2006 07:23:29 -0500 (EST)
Subject: [AccessD] Find And Replace
Message-ID: <20061102122329.E9EB87E45A@mprdmxin.myway.com>


Thanks for the info.


Gary J. Giever, M.A.
Applications Developer
ACCMHS

 --- On Wed 11/01, Doug Murphy < dw-murphy at cox.net > wrote:
From: Doug Murphy [mailto: dw-murphy at cox.net]
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Date: Wed, 1 Nov 2006 13:38:48 -0800
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Find And Replace

Gary,I purchased it last week for Access 2003 and got an email response the sameday.  You might want to check with Rick to make sure he received your info.Doug -----Original Message-----From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gary J. GieverSent: Wednesday, November 01, 2006 11:45 AMTo: accessd at databaseadvisors.comSubject: [AccessD] Find And ReplaceLast week someone here recommended Rick Fisher's Find And Replace.  I checkit out, liked it and emailed my registration last Monday morning.  Usually,with this kind of transaction, I get a response with a registration numberwithin an hour or so, but it has been more than two days and I have yet tohear from him. Does anyone know if he is still in business?  Gary J. Giever, M.A.Applications DeveloperACCMHS_______________________________________________No banners. No pop-ups. No kidding.Make My Way  your home on the Web - http://www.myway.com--AccessD mailing 
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From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com  Thu Nov  2 09:16:06 2006
From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (JWColby)
Date: Thu, 2 Nov 2006 10:16:06 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Installing SBS2003 - was [dba-SQLServer] What is going on
In-Reply-To: <0J830079Q25MQC10@l-daemon>
Message-ID: <005601c6fe91$d27eb4b0$657aa8c0@m6805>

Well, nothing ever goes as planned.  I own SBS 2003.  I started the install
which proceeded as smoothly as any of this ever does, which means plenty of
"the F6 floppy doesn't work, but it doesn't say that, so spend an hour
figuring that out, find the driver on the internet etc.", and "oh I need an
active network controller, and what do you mean you have to install a driver
disk (right in the middle of the install) to give me that" etc.

In the meantime, it gets to some screen where it just informs me that it is
installing active directory.

>As you are not going, right at the start, into Active Directory (workgroups
will work fine), installing Server2003 is as simple as installing XP.

So now it appears that I AM installing active directory, whether I need or
want it or not.  So (from your email) perhaps the install will NOT be as
easy as installing XP?

I am doing a dual boot, installing SBS2003 to the raid 6 D: drive (might as
well use this raid stuff to make the system install more fault tolerant).

I just got to a screen where it is asking me what components I want, things
like server tools, exchange server, fax service.  So what do I need, and
will it "just install" or will it ask me questions which I am not prepared
to answer?

William, you are the one always touting how great SBS is.  Any words of
wisdom on this?

Man I hate this crap!

John W. Colby
Colby Consulting
www.ColbyConsulting.com

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-sqlserver-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-sqlserver-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim
Lawrence
Sent: Wednesday, November 01, 2006 10:12 PM
To: dba-sqlserver at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: Re: [dba-SQLServer] What is going on

Hi John:

As you are not going, right at the start, into Active Directory (workgroups
will work fine), installing Server2003 is as simple as installing XP.. The
whole process tends to be a disk jockey nodding off between switch disk and
answering such questions as, "What is your product key" and do you want to
install IIS. If I can do it so can you.

Server2003 can run multiple instances and processes. It will run
applications that will over-load any XP desktop box. It has better isolation
so if a program misbehaves it does not bring down the system. I understood
you were on the MS partner plan and therefore you should have access to all
the servers you can stand. Server 2003 standard or developer is just fine
unless you are planning to run virtual and exchange server etc.

I have taken the luxury to run Server 2003 as my desktop, one that has never
gone down... Well only once and that was my fault... But it is really
stable. MS SQL and IIS run as background processes and their impact is
hardly noticeable. 

Sorry if this sounds like a lecture but I am sure your problems can be
solved by going this route.    

Jim

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-sqlserver-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-sqlserver-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of JWColby
Sent: Wednesday, November 01, 2006 2:52 PM
To: dba-sqlserver at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: Re: [dba-SQLServer] What is going on

LOL, borderline insanity.  I can assure you that I am FULLY insane.  Bwaaa
haaaa haaaa.  I am using SP Pro.  SQL Server ran just fine on 2K pro, XP Pro
is the 2K Pro base code.  Why would it not run on that?  I keep hearing that
it isn't supposed to, but it does.  I can tell you I would be irritated
beyond belief if I went to Win 2003 server (which I have but haven't a clue
how to install, since this is a desktop machine in the end) and I still had
this issue.

I actually tried to install 2003 server (in fact I have a disk with the
beginnings of the install) and got to questions that implied I was supposed
to know what I was doing (and I don't) so how am I supposed to install 2003
so that I can test your theory?

I am not a notwork / OS admin, I am a developer.  MS themselves push SQL
Server lite as a developer tool.  

If anyone wants to talk me through a 2003 server install I will do that
but...

John W. Colby
Colby Consulting
www.ColbyConsulting.com

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-sqlserver-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-sqlserver-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim
Lawrence
Sent: Wednesday, November 01, 2006 5:19 PM
To: dba-sqlserver at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: Re: [dba-SQLServer] What is going on

Hi John:

I am trying to cover all the bases. The problems initially appears to be
with the MS SQL sever setting as they run fairly indendendantly from an OS.
If the problem is not in the MS SQL setup, accumulating non responsive
results sort of negates the hardware being the issue, then it has to be in
the process. 

If it is absolutely not in the process then it must be in the MS SQL
settings.

Please tell me you are using server OS as it would be border-line insanity
to use a desktop type OS and then I would assure you, without hesitation,
that that is the problem.

HTH
Jim    

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-sqlserver-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-sqlserver-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of JWColby
Sent: Wednesday, November 01, 2006 12:12 PM
To: dba-sqlserver at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: Re: [dba-SQLServer] What is going on

Jim,

I don't understand what this is doing for me.  I have just one data file
ATM.  I don't know whether that is a good thing or a bad thing.  This sounds
like the process for creating and then redistributing data amongst multiple
files.  If you are saying that it is the existence of one huge file that is
causing my slowdown, then I can certainly do that.  



I have to ask if this is as good as it gets with SQL Server.  I understand
that I am doing stuff with big tables but keerimeny.  I started the build of
a PKID field on the big table.  It tells me that "ansi nulls was not on and
it has to rebuild the table" so I do.  EM just locks up tight, won't even
redraw the screen (blank white) if you switch away and back again.  I
believe that it is hard at work but folks, this is the age of threads.

So I open another instance of EM to work with another table.  EM takes
several seconds to expand each tree (server, databases, specific database)
then when I try to expand the tables, the second instance of EM locks up
tight with an hourglass.  I mean c'mon.  This is 2006, a monster (desktop)
system and EM acts as if it is a DOS app from 1986 running on a '286 with 4
megs and swapping memory.  The second EM instance has been trying to open
the tables icon just to show me what tables are there for 20 minutes now.

To say this is discouraging to work with would be an understatement.  If
this is the best I am going to get I am going to have to look for another
database engine to work with.

And the most discouraging part is that my dual proc system is cruising along
using (average?) well under 25% of the processor while EM is locked up
tight.

Does SQl Server 2005 fix any of this?  Or should I just go look at MySQL or
Oracle personal edition.  I have to get work done on this database and it is
telling me that one job (building a field / index) on one table is all it
can handle.  And by the looks of it I will be locked out of this database
for the next 12 to 24 hours.  

Hell, ACCESS can do better than this!!!  Well, maybe not but SQL Server's
rep is taking a beating here.

John W. Colby
Colby Consulting
www.ColbyConsulting.com

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From Gustav at cactus.dk  Thu Nov  2 09:44:42 2006
From: Gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Thu, 02 Nov 2006 16:44:42 +0100
Subject: [AccessD] Installing SBS2003 - was [dba-SQLServer] What
	is	going on
Message-ID: <s54a20a0.063@cactus.dk>

Hi John

I didn't catch your original post, but installing SBS is not "just to do it". Microsoft has training courses in nothing else than this discipline. That said, I'm sure you could handle it following some of the guides around and good advice but at a cost of many hours. 

However, the install wizard will not know what you want. You have to decide.

>From your post it seems like you need only the server OS and SQL Server 2005. That could be established much simpler with "Windows Server 2003 Web Edition" - which is part of your Action Pack - and "SQL Server 2005 Express" which is a free download.

For anyone else being tempted by all the fun stuff in SBS, stop for a moment and consider seriously the hard core Web Edition, which really is a piece of cake to install and leaves a totally clean desktop you will love. Also, consider seriously to run this in a virtual machine like the free edition of VMware Virtual Server - which itself runs perfectly on the Web Edition server. For deployment, a license for "Windows Server 2003 Web Edition" is only slightly more than that for WinXP - and no CALs as it is not a file server.

/gustav

>>> jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com 02-11-2006 16:16:06 >>>
Well, nothing ever goes as planned.  I own SBS 2003.  I started the install
which proceeded as smoothly as any of this ever does, which means plenty of
"the F6 floppy doesn't work, but it doesn't say that, so spend an hour
figuring that out, find the driver on the internet etc.", and "oh I need an
active network controller, and what do you mean you have to install a driver
disk (right in the middle of the install) to give me that" etc.

In the meantime, it gets to some screen where it just informs me that it is
installing active directory.

>As you are not going, right at the start, into Active Directory (workgroups
will work fine), installing Server2003 is as simple as installing XP.

So now it appears that I AM installing active directory, whether I need or
want it or not.  So (from your email) perhaps the install will NOT be as
easy as installing XP?

I am doing a dual boot, installing SBS2003 to the raid 6 D: drive (might as
well use this raid stuff to make the system install more fault tolerant).

I just got to a screen where it is asking me what components I want, things
like server tools, exchange server, fax service.  So what do I need, and
will it "just install" or will it ask me questions which I am not prepared
to answer?

William, you are the one always touting how great SBS is.  Any words of
wisdom on this?

Man I hate this crap!

John W. Colby
Colby Consulting
www.ColbyConsulting.com 



From wdhindman at dejpolsystems.com  Thu Nov  2 10:36:51 2006
From: wdhindman at dejpolsystems.com (William Hindman)
Date: Thu, 2 Nov 2006 11:36:51 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Installing SBS2003 - was [dba-SQLServer] What is
	going on
References: <005601c6fe91$d27eb4b0$657aa8c0@m6805>
Message-ID: <001b01c6fe9d$1a380f80$3e3de844@50NM721>

...lol ...listen up JC ...SBS2003 is NOT xp ...you must plan your install 
and know ahead of time what services you need and how you want to provide 
them ...that said, it is a whole lot simpler than installing the individual 
applications and getting them to work together ...and a whole lot cheaper 
for your client.

...of course, your first step should have been to RTFM :)

...if you have the server resources, just choose every install option ...I'm 
assuming you have two NICs :)

...but if this is something YOU are planning to use in your office for 
anything more than learning purposes, its probably enormous overkill.

...if you have two or more people sending faxes using the same modems, fax 
services will make it easier.

...if you have a group of people who can use shared calendaring, scheduling, 
contacts, and e-mail, Exchange will make it happen ...but in my office, I 
use OE because Exchange requires Outlook and it is such a resource hog 
...but hey, if you have the resources, its the best groupware going despite 
Gustav's enamoration with Novell :)

...I belong to a listserve, sbs2k on yahoo groups that is very active and 
quite similar to AccessD ...and very tolerant of newbies ...a number of mvps 
hang out there ...despite its name, sbs2k3 is the topic of choice.

...I love SBS and in small offices of 5-25 people it just can't be beat 
...stable as a rock once installed and a real pleasure to support because it 
really doesn't require much :)

...but if you really don't need it, don't install it ...gustav is right 
about their being simpler alternatives for SOHOs that don't need the array 
that SBS provides ...and no matter what you want, if its an MS server, you 
will learn Active Directory ...actually much simpler than it looks at first 
glance ...most of it happens behind the scenes.

William Hindman

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "JWColby" <jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com>
To: <dba-sqlserver at databaseadvisors.com>; "'Access Developers discussion and 
problem solving'" <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Thursday, November 02, 2006 10:16 AM
Subject: [AccessD] Installing SBS2003 - was [dba-SQLServer] What is going on


> Well, nothing ever goes as planned.  I own SBS 2003.  I started the 
> install
> which proceeded as smoothly as any of this ever does, which means plenty 
> of
> "the F6 floppy doesn't work, but it doesn't say that, so spend an hour
> figuring that out, find the driver on the internet etc.", and "oh I need 
> an
> active network controller, and what do you mean you have to install a 
> driver
> disk (right in the middle of the install) to give me that" etc.
>
> In the meantime, it gets to some screen where it just informs me that it 
> is
> installing active directory.
>
>>As you are not going, right at the start, into Active Directory 
>>(workgroups
> will work fine), installing Server2003 is as simple as installing XP.
>
> So now it appears that I AM installing active directory, whether I need or
> want it or not.  So (from your email) perhaps the install will NOT be as
> easy as installing XP?
>
> I am doing a dual boot, installing SBS2003 to the raid 6 D: drive (might 
> as
> well use this raid stuff to make the system install more fault tolerant).
>
> I just got to a screen where it is asking me what components I want, 
> things
> like server tools, exchange server, fax service.  So what do I need, and
> will it "just install" or will it ask me questions which I am not prepared
> to answer?
>
> William, you are the one always touting how great SBS is.  Any words of
> wisdom on this?
>
> Man I hate this crap!
>
> John W. Colby
> Colby Consulting
> www.ColbyConsulting.com
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: dba-sqlserver-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:dba-sqlserver-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim
> Lawrence
> Sent: Wednesday, November 01, 2006 10:12 PM
> To: dba-sqlserver at databaseadvisors.com
> Subject: Re: [dba-SQLServer] What is going on
>
> Hi John:
>
> As you are not going, right at the start, into Active Directory 
> (workgroups
> will work fine), installing Server2003 is as simple as installing XP.. The
> whole process tends to be a disk jockey nodding off between switch disk 
> and
> answering such questions as, "What is your product key" and do you want to
> install IIS. If I can do it so can you.
>
> Server2003 can run multiple instances and processes. It will run
> applications that will over-load any XP desktop box. It has better 
> isolation
> so if a program misbehaves it does not bring down the system. I understood
> you were on the MS partner plan and therefore you should have access to 
> all
> the servers you can stand. Server 2003 standard or developer is just fine
> unless you are planning to run virtual and exchange server etc.
>
> I have taken the luxury to run Server 2003 as my desktop, one that has 
> never
> gone down... Well only once and that was my fault... But it is really
> stable. MS SQL and IIS run as background processes and their impact is
> hardly noticeable.
>
> Sorry if this sounds like a lecture but I am sure your problems can be
> solved by going this route.
>
> Jim
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: dba-sqlserver-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:dba-sqlserver-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of JWColby
> Sent: Wednesday, November 01, 2006 2:52 PM
> To: dba-sqlserver at databaseadvisors.com
> Subject: Re: [dba-SQLServer] What is going on
>
> LOL, borderline insanity.  I can assure you that I am FULLY insane.  Bwaaa
> haaaa haaaa.  I am using SP Pro.  SQL Server ran just fine on 2K pro, XP 
> Pro
> is the 2K Pro base code.  Why would it not run on that?  I keep hearing 
> that
> it isn't supposed to, but it does.  I can tell you I would be irritated
> beyond belief if I went to Win 2003 server (which I have but haven't a 
> clue
> how to install, since this is a desktop machine in the end) and I still 
> had
> this issue.
>
> I actually tried to install 2003 server (in fact I have a disk with the
> beginnings of the install) and got to questions that implied I was 
> supposed
> to know what I was doing (and I don't) so how am I supposed to install 
> 2003
> so that I can test your theory?
>
> I am not a notwork / OS admin, I am a developer.  MS themselves push SQL
> Server lite as a developer tool.
>
> If anyone wants to talk me through a 2003 server install I will do that
> but...
>
> John W. Colby
> Colby Consulting
> www.ColbyConsulting.com
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: dba-sqlserver-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:dba-sqlserver-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim
> Lawrence
> Sent: Wednesday, November 01, 2006 5:19 PM
> To: dba-sqlserver at databaseadvisors.com
> Subject: Re: [dba-SQLServer] What is going on
>
> Hi John:
>
> I am trying to cover all the bases. The problems initially appears to be
> with the MS SQL sever setting as they run fairly indendendantly from an 
> OS.
> If the problem is not in the MS SQL setup, accumulating non responsive
> results sort of negates the hardware being the issue, then it has to be in
> the process.
>
> If it is absolutely not in the process then it must be in the MS SQL
> settings.
>
> Please tell me you are using server OS as it would be border-line insanity
> to use a desktop type OS and then I would assure you, without hesitation,
> that that is the problem.
>
> HTH
> Jim
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: dba-sqlserver-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:dba-sqlserver-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of JWColby
> Sent: Wednesday, November 01, 2006 12:12 PM
> To: dba-sqlserver at databaseadvisors.com
> Subject: Re: [dba-SQLServer] What is going on
>
> Jim,
>
> I don't understand what this is doing for me.  I have just one data file
> ATM.  I don't know whether that is a good thing or a bad thing.  This 
> sounds
> like the process for creating and then redistributing data amongst 
> multiple
> files.  If you are saying that it is the existence of one huge file that 
> is
> causing my slowdown, then I can certainly do that.
>
>
>
> I have to ask if this is as good as it gets with SQL Server.  I understand
> that I am doing stuff with big tables but keerimeny.  I started the build 
> of
> a PKID field on the big table.  It tells me that "ansi nulls was not on 
> and
> it has to rebuild the table" so I do.  EM just locks up tight, won't even
> redraw the screen (blank white) if you switch away and back again.  I
> believe that it is hard at work but folks, this is the age of threads.
>
> So I open another instance of EM to work with another table.  EM takes
> several seconds to expand each tree (server, databases, specific database)
> then when I try to expand the tables, the second instance of EM locks up
> tight with an hourglass.  I mean c'mon.  This is 2006, a monster (desktop)
> system and EM acts as if it is a DOS app from 1986 running on a '286 with 
> 4
> megs and swapping memory.  The second EM instance has been trying to open
> the tables icon just to show me what tables are there for 20 minutes now.
>
> To say this is discouraging to work with would be an understatement.  If
> this is the best I am going to get I am going to have to look for another
> database engine to work with.
>
> And the most discouraging part is that my dual proc system is cruising 
> along
> using (average?) well under 25% of the processor while EM is locked up
> tight.
>
> Does SQl Server 2005 fix any of this?  Or should I just go look at MySQL 
> or
> Oracle personal edition.  I have to get work done on this database and it 
> is
> telling me that one job (building a field / index) on one table is all it
> can handle.  And by the looks of it I will be locked out of this database
> for the next 12 to 24 hours.
>
> Hell, ACCESS can do better than this!!!  Well, maybe not but SQL Server's
> rep is taking a beating here.
>
> John W. Colby
> Colby Consulting
> www.ColbyConsulting.com
>
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From martyconnelly at shaw.ca  Thu Nov  2 14:43:23 2006
From: martyconnelly at shaw.ca (MartyConnelly)
Date: Thu, 02 Nov 2006 12:43:23 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] Creating Managed Add-ins for Access 2007
In-Reply-To: <001b01c6fe9d$1a380f80$3e3de844@50NM721>
References: <005601c6fe91$d27eb4b0$657aa8c0@m6805>
	<001b01c6fe9d$1a380f80$3e3de844@50NM721>
Message-ID: <454A586B.2000805@shaw.ca>

Interesting article from Ken Getz
Creating Managed Add-ins for Access 2007 
http://msdn2.microsoft.com/en-us/library/aa902693.aspx

You can probably do this without installing Visual Studio Tools
and just VB 2005 express but it might require filching
the Shared Add-in template class and installing with GPAC's
instead of a created msi from a wizard.

-- 
Marty Connelly
Victoria, B.C.
Canada



From Donald.A.McGillivray at sprint.com  Thu Nov  2 15:21:06 2006
From: Donald.A.McGillivray at sprint.com (McGillivray, Don [IT])
Date: Thu, 2 Nov 2006 15:21:06 -0600
Subject: [AccessD] Strategies for populating combo boxes
Message-ID: <EC829B33DF5B5B48A956B7A2E894AA9A0A1B1FCF@PLSWB06C.ad.sprint.com>

Hello, All

I am working on a project where I've been asked to provide an interface that allows users to choose selection criteria from a series of combo boxes and use the results to open one of six reports.  This is a fairly simple database - one table with about 20 columns and 1.1 million rows.  They have already built the queries and reports; all they want me to do is provide an easy way to specify selection criteria for the reports.

Since there is only a single table, building rowsources for the combo boxes requires running summary queries against the various columns for all 1.1 million rows.  With 6 to 10 combo boxes on the form, that creates quite a bit of hang time waiting for the combos to populate.  I'm considering strategies for reducing the delay, one being to populate a series of temp tables at DB open that can be used to populate the combos.  That way the big delay happens only once upon DB start, and the UI should respond more quickly.  I also thought of populating a single temp table with two columns - one to identify the combo box in which the values will be used, and the other with the values themselves.

I seek guidance from the experts.  Are either of these ideas worthy of pursuit?  Is there a better way to get there from here?

Any and all comments, critiques, ideas welcome.

Thanks!

Don McGillivray



From martyconnelly at shaw.ca  Thu Nov  2 15:34:08 2006
From: martyconnelly at shaw.ca (MartyConnelly)
Date: Thu, 02 Nov 2006 13:34:08 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] Strategies for populating combo boxes
In-Reply-To: <EC829B33DF5B5B48A956B7A2E894AA9A0A1B1FCF@PLSWB06C.ad.sprint.com>
References: <EC829B33DF5B5B48A956B7A2E894AA9A0A1B1FCF@PLSWB06C.ad.sprint.com>
Message-ID: <454A6450.1000304@shaw.ca>

One suggestion: Load the form, subform, combobox and listbox
record sources at run-time.

http://www.granite.ab.ca/access/performanceforms.htm

McGillivray, Don [IT] wrote:

>Hello, All
>
>I am working on a project where I've been asked to provide an interface that allows users to choose selection criteria from a series of combo boxes and use the results to open one of six reports.  This is a fairly simple database - one table with about 20 columns and 1.1 million rows.  They have already built the queries and reports; all they want me to do is provide an easy way to specify selection criteria for the reports.
>
>Since there is only a single table, building rowsources for the combo boxes requires running summary queries against the various columns for all 1.1 million rows.  With 6 to 10 combo boxes on the form, that creates quite a bit of hang time waiting for the combos to populate.  I'm considering strategies for reducing the delay, one being to populate a series of temp tables at DB open that can be used to populate the combos.  That way the big delay happens only once upon DB start, and the UI should respond more quickly.  I also thought of populating a single temp table with two columns - one to identify the combo box in which the values will be used, and the other with the values themselves.
>
>I seek guidance from the experts.  Are either of these ideas worthy of pursuit?  Is there a better way to get there from here?
>
>Any and all comments, critiques, ideas welcome.
>
>Thanks!
>
>Don McGillivray
>
>  
>

-- 
Marty Connelly
Victoria, B.C.
Canada



From shamil at users.mns.ru  Thu Nov  2 16:01:14 2006
From: shamil at users.mns.ru (Shamil Salakhetdinov)
Date: Fri, 3 Nov 2006 01:01:14 +0300
Subject: [AccessD] Creating Managed Add-ins for Access 2007
In-Reply-To: <454A586B.2000805@shaw.ca>
Message-ID: <000301c6feca$6a2ada40$6401a8c0@nant>

Yes, Marty, it should be doable just using VB 2005 Express.

<<<
installing with GPAC's instead of a created msi from a wizard.
>>>
Yes, should be doable - but also .NET Framework SDK is needed I think to
extract type library from shared add-in's assembly using TlbExp.exe utility,
which is delivered in SDK or is tlbexp.exe also delivered in .NET Framework
itself?...

BTW, did you ever try to use Registration-Free COM
(http://msdn.microsoft.com/msdnmag/issues/05/04/RegFreeCOM/), which William
mentioned here some time ago?

If that works OK then a Shared/COM Add-in can be probably installed using
xcopy given:

- its assembly and related files;
- its typelib;
- its manifest file for RegFree COM (open question here is how(/what is its
format) to make it?)...

That would be great if it would work this way - it still might need to set
several registry entries to "inform" MS Access about presence of com-add-in
to load but this should be as easy as running once a .reg file with needed
registry entries...

--
Shamil
 
-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of MartyConnelly
Sent: Thursday, November 02, 2006 11:43 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: [AccessD] Creating Managed Add-ins for Access 2007

Interesting article from Ken Getz
Creating Managed Add-ins for Access 2007 
http://msdn2.microsoft.com/en-us/library/aa902693.aspx

You can probably do this without installing Visual Studio Tools
and just VB 2005 express but it might require filching
the Shared Add-in template class and installing with GPAC's
instead of a created msi from a wizard.

-- 
Marty Connelly
Victoria, B.C.
Canada

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From Donald.A.McGillivray at sprint.com  Thu Nov  2 16:15:55 2006
From: Donald.A.McGillivray at sprint.com (McGillivray, Don [IT])
Date: Thu, 2 Nov 2006 16:15:55 -0600
Subject: [AccessD] Strategies for populating combo boxes
Message-ID: <EC829B33DF5B5B48A956B7A2E894AA9A0A1B2140@PLSWB06C.ad.sprint.com>

Thanks, Marty.

I can see how this would reduce db size and speed the saving of the form, but will it speed its loading and response for the user?  Seems like whether I'm saving the queries with the form or not, they will still have to load from the million record table to populate the combos, no?  In my trials so far, it seems like only the initial use of a combo suffers from the delay (subsequent uses are lickety-split).  It just feels like a nuisance to make the user wait for controls on the form if I can speed loading the rowsource by driving it with a more concise table created once at start up.  They will still have to wait for that table to populate, but not so much for each control on the form.

Maybe I'm misunderstanding how this works, and how the suggested approach addresses the issue?

FWIW, the data in this db will be refreshed only about once a quarter, and I suppose I could add a process that they run once upon each refresh that produces the more concise tables for the combo row sources.  That would eliminate/reduce even the startup delays.

Don

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of MartyConnelly
Sent: Thursday, November 02, 2006 1:34 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Strategies for populating combo boxes

One suggestion: Load the form, subform, combobox and listbox
record sources at run-time.

http://www.granite.ab.ca/access/performanceforms.htm




From martyconnelly at shaw.ca  Thu Nov  2 17:37:01 2006
From: martyconnelly at shaw.ca (MartyConnelly)
Date: Thu, 02 Nov 2006 15:37:01 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] Creating Managed Add-ins for Access 2007
In-Reply-To: <000301c6feca$6a2ada40$6401a8c0@nant>
References: <000301c6feca$6a2ada40$6401a8c0@nant>
Message-ID: <454A811D.9090008@shaw.ca>

BTW, did you ever try to use Registration-Free COM
(http://msdn.microsoft.com/msdnmag/issues/05/04/RegFreeCOM/), which William
mentioned here some time ago?

Yup it works calling a VB.Net wrapped com class dll from Access
However the download from the article is missing  a comclass.zip
It is only 2 or 3 K, you need this to build any new classes. It is
installed by Visual Studio but not VB Express. I don't have Visual
Studio  but found it in a .msi file downloadable from this simlar article by
same author below. Just install it in the directory indicated in the 
article then
it will appear in temporary templates in vb.Net IDE. It contains
the COM Class template necessary for building new class projects.
I suppose you could workaround it with your own GUID's but don't
know the pitfuls.

Visual Basic Fusion: Best Practices to Use Visual Basic 6 and Visual
Basic .NET Together

http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/default.asp?url=/library/en-us/dnvs05/html/vbbestprac.asp

 You may have a  problem in the registering of the dll.

Two ways to do this

Install the project and open it in VB.Net, then do a Build this will
register the dll with the com registry. There are step by step
instuctions except for doing the final build in the first article. The 
build will
also create a new tlb file and register the assembly in the GAC and 
register
the dll. There are also standalone routines to do this too.

To use Access set a reference to the tlb file that will be in a
directory like below depending on where you installed the project. C:\Access
files\VBFusion\VB2005\FX20Wrapper\bin\Release\FX20Wrapper.tlb
The tlb will allow Access to see the class definitions and do a compile.

Then just run your routine.

The other way is to use the included  install.bat to register the dll It
uses regasm and gacutil to remove any previously named dll and reinstall
in the registry. Haven't tried this method. See

http://samples.gotdotnet.com/quickstart/howto/doc/Interop/Building_Samples_COM2NET.aspx

install batch file looks like this

regasm 
"C:\WINDOWS\Microsoft.NET\Framework\v2.0.50727\system.windows.forms.dll"

gacutil -u FX20Wrapper
regasm /u "VB2005\FX20Wrapper\bin\Release\FX20Wrapper.dll"

regasm /tlb "VB2005\FX20Wrapper\bin\Release\FX20Wrapper.dll"
gacutil -i "VB2005\FX20Wrapper\bin\Release\FX20Wrapper.dll"


Shamil Salakhetdinov wrote:

>Yes, Marty, it should be doable just using VB 2005 Express.
>
><<<
>installing with GPAC's instead of a created msi from a wizard.
>  
>
>Yes, should be doable - but also .NET Framework SDK is needed I think to
>extract type library from shared add-in's assembly using TlbExp.exe utility,
>which is delivered in SDK or is tlbexp.exe also delivered in .NET Framework
>itself?...
>
>BTW, did you ever try to use Registration-Free COM
>(http://msdn.microsoft.com/msdnmag/issues/05/04/RegFreeCOM/), which William
>mentioned here some time ago?
>
>If that works OK then a Shared/COM Add-in can be probably installed using
>xcopy given:
>
>- its assembly and related files;
>- its typelib;
>- its manifest file for RegFree COM (open question here is how(/what is its
>format) to make it?)...
>
>That would be great if it would work this way - it still might need to set
>several registry entries to "inform" MS Access about presence of com-add-in
>to load but this should be as easy as running once a .reg file with needed
>registry entries...
>
>--
>Shamil
> 
>-----Original Message-----
>From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of MartyConnelly
>Sent: Thursday, November 02, 2006 11:43 PM
>To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
>Subject: [AccessD] Creating Managed Add-ins for Access 2007
>
>Interesting article from Ken Getz
>Creating Managed Add-ins for Access 2007 
>http://msdn2.microsoft.com/en-us/library/aa902693.aspx
>
>You can probably do this without installing Visual Studio Tools
>and just VB 2005 express but it might require filching
>the Shared Add-in template class and installing with GPAC's
>instead of a created msi from a wizard.
>
>  
>

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From gjgiever at myway.com  Thu Nov  2 18:29:55 2006
From: gjgiever at myway.com (Gary J. Giever)
Date: Thu,  2 Nov 2006 19:29:55 -0500 (EST)
Subject: [AccessD] Find And Replace
Message-ID: <20061103002955.2043E67675@mprdmxin.myway.com>


He emailed me today.  Apparently his first reply made an unsucessful attempt to travel through the Burmuda Triange.

Thanks again for your help.


Gary J. Giever, M.A.
Applications Developer
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 --- On Thu 11/02, Gary J. Giever < gjgiever at myway.com > wrote:
From: Gary J. Giever [mailto: gjgiever at myway.com]
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Date: Thu,  2 Nov 2006 07:23:29 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Find And Replace

Thanks for the info.Gary J. Giever, M.A.Applications DeveloperACCMHS --- On Wed 11/01, Doug Murphy < dw-murphy at cox.net > wrote:From: Doug Murphy [mailto: dw-murphy at cox.net]To: accessd at databaseadvisors.comDate: Wed, 1 Nov 2006 13:38:48 -0800Subject: Re: [AccessD] Find And ReplaceGary,I purchased it last week for Access 2003 and got an email response the sameday.  You might want to check with Rick to make sure he received your info.Doug -----Original Message-----From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gary J. GieverSent: Wednesday, November 01, 2006 11:45 AMTo: accessd at databaseadvisors.comSubject: [AccessD] Find And ReplaceLast week someone here recommended Rick Fisher's Find And Replace.  I checkit out, liked it and emailed my registration last Monday morning.  Usually,with this kind of transaction, I get a response with a registration numberwithin an hour or so, but it has been more than two days and I have yet 
tohear from him. Does anyone know if he is still in business?  Gary J. Giever, M.A.Applications DeveloperACCMHS_______________________________________________No banners. No pop-ups. No kidding.Make My Way  your home on the Web - http://www.myway.com--AccessD mailing listAccessD at databaseadvisors.comhttp://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessdWebsite: http://www.databaseadvisors.com-- AccessD mailing listAccessD at databaseadvisors.comhttp://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessdWebsite: http://www.databaseadvisors.com_______________________________________________No banners. No pop-ups. No kidding.Make My Way  your home on the Web - http://www.myway.com-- AccessD mailing listAccessD at databaseadvisors.comhttp://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessdWebsite: http://www.databaseadvisors.com

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From newsgrps at dalyn.co.nz  Thu Nov  2 22:28:11 2006
From: newsgrps at dalyn.co.nz (David Emerson)
Date: Fri, 03 Nov 2006 17:28:11 +1300
Subject: [AccessD] Changing Rowsource for Graph (Sproc source)
Message-ID: <7.0.1.0.0.20061103171432.01b52d28@dalyn.co.nz>

Group,

Access XP ADP

I have a report that has a single graph on it (Unbound Object Frame: 
Microsoft Graph Chart).  The RowSource property is set to a sproc 
which has parameters.

If I enter the following direct into the RowSource property the 
report runs fine:
EXEC sprptPipeGateForecastMth 1085207198, '2006-11-01', '2007-10-01'

However, I want to set the parameters based on values on a form.  The 
help I found on the internet said that the reports OnOpen event was 
the place to put it so I added:

Me!graGraph.RowSource = "EXEC sprptPipeGateForecastMth " & 
[Forms]![frmPipeWeldForecast]!cboGateIDNo & ", '" & 
basConvertDate(basFirstMthDay([Forms]![frmPipeWeldForecast]![txtGateMthStartMth])) 
& "', '" & 
basConvertDate(basFirstMthDay([Forms]![frmPipeWeldForecast]![txtGateMthEndMth])) 
& "'"

When the report is run I get Runtime Error 2455 - You entered an 
expression that has an invalid reference to the property 
RowSource.  I get the same error if I try in the OnOpen event of the 
report (this indicates that the property is not even available OnOpen):

MsgBox Reports!rptPipeGateForecastMth!graGraph.RowSource

I know the property exists because the following works it I put it 
into the report detail OnFormat event:
MsgBox Me!graGraph.RowSource

I have tried setting the property on the detail OnFormat event but an 
error comes up saying that you cant set this property after printing 
has started.

Any guidance on what I can try?




From andy at minstersystems.co.uk  Fri Nov  3 02:09:49 2006
From: andy at minstersystems.co.uk (Andy Lacey)
Date: Fri, 3 Nov 2006 08:09:49 -0000
Subject: [AccessD] Changing Rowsource for Graph (Sproc source)
In-Reply-To: <7.0.1.0.0.20061103171432.01b52d28@dalyn.co.nz>
Message-ID: <00bb01c6ff1f$6f502430$e5ad0c54@minster33c3r25>

Hi David
I seem to recall having the same issue a long while ago. I was using queries
and ended up setting the graph's rowsource to a query but modifying the
query's SQL before opening the report. Not being an SQL kind of guy I don't
know how that translates when you have Sprocs, or if it can at all, but I'm
hoping that gives you a steer.

-- Andy Lacey
http://www.minstersystems.co.uk 

> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com 
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of 
> David Emerson
> Sent: 03 November 2006 04:28
> To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
> Subject: [AccessD] Changing Rowsource for Graph (Sproc source)
> 
> 
> Group,
> 
> Access XP ADP
> 
> I have a report that has a single graph on it (Unbound Object Frame: 
> Microsoft Graph Chart).  The RowSource property is set to a sproc 
> which has parameters.
> 
> If I enter the following direct into the RowSource property the 
> report runs fine:
> EXEC sprptPipeGateForecastMth 1085207198, '2006-11-01', '2007-10-01'
> 
> However, I want to set the parameters based on values on a form.  The 
> help I found on the internet said that the reports OnOpen event was 
> the place to put it so I added:
> 
> Me!graGraph.RowSource = "EXEC sprptPipeGateForecastMth " & 
> [Forms]![frmPipeWeldForecast]!cboGateIDNo & ", '" & 
> basConvertDate(basFirstMthDay([Forms]![frmPipeWeldForecast]![t
> xtGateMthStartMth])) 
> & "', '" & 
> basConvertDate(basFirstMthDay([Forms]![frmPipeWeldForecast]![t
> xtGateMthEndMth])) 
> & "'"
> 
> When the report is run I get Runtime Error 2455 - You entered an 
> expression that has an invalid reference to the property 
> RowSource.  I get the same error if I try in the OnOpen event of the 
> report (this indicates that the property is not even 
> available OnOpen):
> 
> MsgBox Reports!rptPipeGateForecastMth!graGraph.RowSource
> 
> I know the property exists because the following works it I put it 
> into the report detail OnFormat event:
> MsgBox Me!graGraph.RowSource
> 
> I have tried setting the property on the detail OnFormat event but an 
> error comes up saying that you cant set this property after printing 
> has started.
> 
> Any guidance on what I can try?
> 
> 
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From artful at rogers.com  Fri Nov  3 03:06:52 2006
From: artful at rogers.com (artful at rogers.com)
Date: Fri, 3 Nov 2006 01:06:52 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [AccessD] Strategies for populating combo boxes
Message-ID: <20061103090653.70671.qmail@web88206.mail.re2.yahoo.com>

My suggestion would be, Don't populate any of the combos until at least one keystroke has been entered in a given combo. Then populate it. I.e. the user enters "A", then you populate it with only those rows beginning with "A". The user then enters "B"; you repopulate it with those rows beginning with "AB". The user enters "C" and you repopulate the combo beginning with "ABC". This can be very quick. Assuming an Access BE, then the query that populates any given combo would be something like "SELECT ID, Description FROM SomeTable WHERE Description LIKE "ABC*". The way I have handled this in previous apps is to rewrite the source statement, which automatically causes a refill.

----- Original Message ----
From: "McGillivray, Don [IT]" <Donald.A.McGillivray at sprint.com>
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Thursday, November 2, 2006 4:21:06 PM
Subject: [AccessD] Strategies for populating combo boxes

Hello, All

I am working on a project where I've been asked to provide an interface that allows users to choose selection criteria from a series of combo boxes and use the results to open one of six reports.  This is a fairly simple database - one table with about 20 columns and 1.1 million rows.  They have already built the queries and reports; all they want me to do is provide an easy way to specify selection criteria for the reports.

Since there is only a single table, building rowsources for the combo boxes requires running summary queries against the various columns for all 1.1 million rows.  With 6 to 10 combo boxes on the form, that creates quite a bit of hang time waiting for the combos to populate.  I'm considering strategies for reducing the delay, one being to populate a series of temp tables at DB open that can be used to populate the combos.  That way the big delay happens only once upon DB start, and the UI should respond more quickly.  I also thought of populating a single temp table with two columns - one to identify the combo box in which the values will be used, and the other with the values themselves.

I seek guidance from the experts.  Are either of these ideas worthy of pursuit?  Is there a better way to get there from here?

Any and all comments, critiques, ideas welcome.

Thanks!

Don McGillivray

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From askolits at ot.com  Fri Nov  3 07:33:39 2006
From: askolits at ot.com (John Skolits)
Date: Fri, 3 Nov 2006 08:33:39 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Changing Rowsource for Graph (Sproc source)
In-Reply-To: <00bb01c6ff1f$6f502430$e5ad0c54@minster33c3r25>
Message-ID: <004901c6ff4c$af6dbdc0$6501a8c0@LaptopXP>

A long shot ideas. 

Use CHR$(39) instead of the single quote.
Not sure the syntax is exactly correct or not but here is what I came up
with.

"EXEC sprptPipeGateForecastMth " & [Forms]![frmPipeWeldForecast]!cboGateIDNo
& ", " & Chr$(39) 
& basConvertDate(basFirstMthDay([Forms]![frmPipeWeldForecast]![t
xtGateMthStartMth])) & Chr$(39) & ", " & Chr$(39) &
"basConvertDate(basFirstMthDay([Forms]![frmPipeWeldForecast]![txtGateMthEndM
th])) " & Chr$(39)


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Andy Lacey
Sent: Friday, November 03, 2006 3:10 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Changing Rowsource for Graph (Sproc source)

Hi David
I seem to recall having the same issue a long while ago. I was using queries
and ended up setting the graph's rowsource to a query but modifying the
query's SQL before opening the report. Not being an SQL kind of guy I don't
know how that translates when you have Sprocs, or if it can at all, but I'm
hoping that gives you a steer.

-- Andy Lacey
http://www.minstersystems.co.uk 

> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com 
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of 
> David Emerson
> Sent: 03 November 2006 04:28
> To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
> Subject: [AccessD] Changing Rowsource for Graph (Sproc source)
> 
> 
> Group,
> 
> Access XP ADP
> 
> I have a report that has a single graph on it (Unbound Object Frame: 
> Microsoft Graph Chart).  The RowSource property is set to a sproc 
> which has parameters.
> 
> If I enter the following direct into the RowSource property the 
> report runs fine:
> EXEC sprptPipeGateForecastMth 1085207198, '2006-11-01', '2007-10-01'
> 
> However, I want to set the parameters based on values on a form.  The 
> help I found on the internet said that the reports OnOpen event was 
> the place to put it so I added:
> 
> Me!graGraph.RowSource = "EXEC sprptPipeGateForecastMth " & 
> [Forms]![frmPipeWeldForecast]!cboGateIDNo & ", '" & 
> basConvertDate(basFirstMthDay([Forms]![frmPipeWeldForecast]![t
> xtGateMthStartMth])) 
> & "', '" & 
> basConvertDate(basFirstMthDay([Forms]![frmPipeWeldForecast]![t
> xtGateMthEndMth])) 
> & "'"
> 
> When the report is run I get Runtime Error 2455 - You entered an 
> expression that has an invalid reference to the property 
> RowSource.  I get the same error if I try in the OnOpen event of the 
> report (this indicates that the property is not even 
> available OnOpen):
> 
> MsgBox Reports!rptPipeGateForecastMth!graGraph.RowSource
> 
> I know the property exists because the following works it I put it 
> into the report detail OnFormat event:
> MsgBox Me!graGraph.RowSource
> 
> I have tried setting the property on the detail OnFormat event but an 
> error comes up saying that you cant set this property after printing 
> has started.
> 
> Any guidance on what I can try?
> 
> 
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From accessd666 at yahoo.com  Fri Nov  3 07:42:05 2006
From: accessd666 at yahoo.com (Sad Der)
Date: Fri, 3 Nov 2006 05:42:05 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [AccessD] OT: ASP.Net Opening Access 2003 reports?
Message-ID: <20061103134205.28298.qmail@web31607.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Hi Jim,

This sounds really nice. Do you happen to have a link to that article?

Sander

----- Original Message ----
From: Jim DeMarco <Jdemarco at hudsonhealthplan.org>
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Tuesday, October 31, 2006 5:00:10 PM
Subject: Re: [AccessD] OT: ASP.Net Opening Access 2003 reports?

Sander,

I read an interestig article a while back that detailed how to use
Access as the reporting engine for ASP.NET applications.  In short it
involves getting input from your user and running the report in Access
(installed on server I'd imagine).  The report is then exported to XML
from Access by your .NET app.  Access does a real good job of creating
XML/XSL so the reports will look like Access reports.

I hope that makes sense (and helps). 


Jim DeMarco

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Sad Der
Sent: Tuesday, October 31, 2006 9:18 AM
To: Acces User Group
Subject: [AccessD] OT: ASP.Net Opening Access 2003 reports?

Hi group,

does anybody know how difficult it is to open a report in an Access 2003
database using Asp.Net?
We're using an intranet and VPN. So that shouldn't be the big issue.

Thnx in @vance.

Regards,

Sander




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From gjgiever at myway.com  Fri Nov  3 08:12:25 2006
From: gjgiever at myway.com (Gary J. Giever)
Date: Fri,  3 Nov 2006 09:12:25 -0500 (EST)
Subject: [AccessD] Simple SQL Statement
Message-ID: <20061103141225.387BE99F02@mprdmxin.myway.com>


I'm setting up a program that must make a copy of a table (dbo_CLIENTMAST)in a different application then make one of the fields in the new table a primary key.  Making the copy is easy but changing the field to a primary key is causing me some problems.  I've tried various SQL statements but none have worked.  This is my last attempt and it seems like it should work but I get the message "Syntax error in CONSTRAINT clause."  tblClientMaster is the new table.

ALTER TABLE tblClientMaster ADD CONSTRAINT UNIQUE (CCASE_NO);

Any help would be much appreciated.


Gary J. Giever, M.A.
Applications Developer
ACCMHS


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From Jdemarco at hudsonhealthplan.org  Fri Nov  3 08:28:44 2006
From: Jdemarco at hudsonhealthplan.org (Jim DeMarco)
Date: Fri, 3 Nov 2006 09:28:44 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] OT: ASP.Net Opening Access 2003 reports?
Message-ID: <08F823FD83787D4BA0B99CA580AD3C740464AB07@TTNEXCHCL2.hshhp.com>

It must be your luck day.  This was in the May 2003 issue of Smart
Access but it looks like M$ posted it in total at:

http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/default.asp?url=/library/en-us/dnsmart
03/html/sa03e1.asp

I find it a most interesting idea. 


Jim

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Sad Der
Sent: Friday, November 03, 2006 8:42 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] OT: ASP.Net Opening Access 2003 reports?

Hi Jim,

This sounds really nice. Do you happen to have a link to that article?

Sander

----- Original Message ----
From: Jim DeMarco <Jdemarco at hudsonhealthplan.org>
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Tuesday, October 31, 2006 5:00:10 PM
Subject: Re: [AccessD] OT: ASP.Net Opening Access 2003 reports?

Sander,

I read an interestig article a while back that detailed how to use
Access as the reporting engine for ASP.NET applications.  In short it
involves getting input from your user and running the report in Access
(installed on server I'd imagine).  The report is then exported to XML
from Access by your .NET app.  Access does a real good job of creating
XML/XSL so the reports will look like Access reports.

I hope that makes sense (and helps). 


Jim DeMarco

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Sad Der
Sent: Tuesday, October 31, 2006 9:18 AM
To: Acces User Group
Subject: [AccessD] OT: ASP.Net Opening Access 2003 reports?

Hi group,

does anybody know how difficult it is to open a report in an Access 2003
database using Asp.Net?
We're using an intranet and VPN. So that shouldn't be the big issue.

Thnx in @vance.

Regards,

Sander




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From accessd at shaw.ca  Fri Nov  3 08:33:55 2006
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Fri, 03 Nov 2006 06:33:55 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] Creating Managed Add-ins for Access 2007
In-Reply-To: <454A811D.9090008@shaw.ca>
Message-ID: <0J85001TESE3YOG0@l-daemon>

Great stuff Marty....

There does seem to be a number of considerations, before using this 
http://msdn.microsoft.com/msdnmag/issues/05/04/RegFreeCOM/default.aspx?loc=&
side=true#a
..and it is available at:
http://download.microsoft.com/download/2/e/9/2e9bde04-3af1-4814-9f1e-733f732
369a3/RegFreeCOM.exe

Just a comment
Jim 

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of MartyConnelly
Sent: Thursday, November 02, 2006 3:37 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Creating Managed Add-ins for Access 2007

BTW, did you ever try to use Registration-Free COM
(http://msdn.microsoft.com/msdnmag/issues/05/04/RegFreeCOM/), which William
mentioned here some time ago?

Yup it works calling a VB.Net wrapped com class dll from Access However the
download from the article is missing  a comclass.zip It is only 2 or 3 K,
you need this to build any new classes. It is installed by Visual Studio but
not VB Express. I don't have Visual Studio  but found it in a .msi file
downloadable from this simlar article by same author below. Just install it
in the directory indicated in the article then it will appear in temporary
templates in vb.Net IDE. It contains the COM Class template necessary for
building new class projects.
I suppose you could workaround it with your own GUID's but don't know the
pitfuls.

Visual Basic Fusion: Best Practices to Use Visual Basic 6 and Visual Basic
.NET Together

http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/default.asp?url=/library/en-us/dnvs05/html
/vbbestprac.asp

 You may have a  problem in the registering of the dll.

Two ways to do this

Install the project and open it in VB.Net, then do a Build this will
register the dll with the com registry. There are step by step instuctions
except for doing the final build in the first article. The build will also
create a new tlb file and register the assembly in the GAC and register the
dll. There are also standalone routines to do this too.

To use Access set a reference to the tlb file that will be in a directory
like below depending on where you installed the project. C:\Access
files\VBFusion\VB2005\FX20Wrapper\bin\Release\FX20Wrapper.tlb
The tlb will allow Access to see the class definitions and do a compile.

Then just run your routine.

The other way is to use the included  install.bat to register the dll It
uses regasm and gacutil to remove any previously named dll and reinstall in
the registry. Haven't tried this method. See

http://samples.gotdotnet.com/quickstart/howto/doc/Interop/Building_Samples_C
OM2NET.aspx

install batch file looks like this

regasm
"C:\WINDOWS\Microsoft.NET\Framework\v2.0.50727\system.windows.forms.dll"

gacutil -u FX20Wrapper
regasm /u "VB2005\FX20Wrapper\bin\Release\FX20Wrapper.dll"

regasm /tlb "VB2005\FX20Wrapper\bin\Release\FX20Wrapper.dll"
gacutil -i "VB2005\FX20Wrapper\bin\Release\FX20Wrapper.dll"


Shamil Salakhetdinov wrote:

>Yes, Marty, it should be doable just using VB 2005 Express.
>
><<<
>installing with GPAC's instead of a created msi from a wizard.
>  
>
>Yes, should be doable - but also .NET Framework SDK is needed I think 
>to extract type library from shared add-in's assembly using TlbExp.exe 
>utility, which is delivered in SDK or is tlbexp.exe also delivered in 
>.NET Framework itself?...
>
>BTW, did you ever try to use Registration-Free COM 
>(http://msdn.microsoft.com/msdnmag/issues/05/04/RegFreeCOM/), which 
>William mentioned here some time ago?
>
>If that works OK then a Shared/COM Add-in can be probably installed 
>using xcopy given:
>
>- its assembly and related files;
>- its typelib;
>- its manifest file for RegFree COM (open question here is how(/what is 
>its
>format) to make it?)...
>
>That would be great if it would work this way - it still might need to 
>set several registry entries to "inform" MS Access about presence of 
>com-add-in to load but this should be as easy as running once a .reg 
>file with needed registry entries...
>
>--
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> 
>-----Original Message-----
>From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of 
>MartyConnelly
>Sent: Thursday, November 02, 2006 11:43 PM
>To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
>Subject: [AccessD] Creating Managed Add-ins for Access 2007
>
>Interesting article from Ken Getz
>Creating Managed Add-ins for Access 2007 
>http://msdn2.microsoft.com/en-us/library/aa902693.aspx
>
>You can probably do this without installing Visual Studio Tools and 
>just VB 2005 express but it might require filching the Shared Add-in 
>template class and installing with GPAC's instead of a created msi from 
>a wizard.
>
>  
>

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From Gustav at cactus.dk  Fri Nov  3 08:42:18 2006
From: Gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Fri, 03 Nov 2006 15:42:18 +0100
Subject: [AccessD] Simple SQL Statement
Message-ID: <s54b636e.012@cactus.dk>

Hi Gary

Try applying a name for the index:

ALTER TABLE tblClientMaster ADD CONSTRAINT IndexName UNIQUE (CCASE_NO);

or:

ALTER TABLE tblClientMaster ADD CONSTRAINT IndexName PRIMARY KEY (CCASE_NO);

/gustav


>>> gjgiever at myway.com 03-11-2006 15:12:25 >>>

I'm setting up a program that must make a copy of a table (dbo_CLIENTMAST)in a different application then make one of the fields in the new table a primary key.  Making the copy is easy but changing the field to a primary key is causing me some problems.  I've tried various SQL statements but none have worked.  This is my last attempt and it seems like it should work but I get the message "Syntax error in CONSTRAINT clause."  tblClientMaster is the new table.

ALTER TABLE tblClientMaster ADD CONSTRAINT UNIQUE (CCASE_NO);

Any help would be much appreciated.


Gary J. Giever, M.A.
Applications Developer
ACCMHS



From Gustav at cactus.dk  Fri Nov  3 08:59:38 2006
From: Gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Fri, 03 Nov 2006 15:59:38 +0100
Subject: [AccessD] OT: ASP.Net Opening Access 2003 reports?
Message-ID: <s54b678b.014@cactus.dk>

Hi Jim

Thanks for that link, very useful.

You may add that the article, in general, describes how to export a report to editable XML which could be useful in other scenarios.

/gustav

>>> Jdemarco at hudsonhealthplan.org 03-11-2006 15:28:44 >>>
It must be your luck day.  This was in the May 2003 issue of Smart
Access but it looks like M$ posted it in total at:

http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/default.asp?url=/library/en-us/dnsmart03/html/sa03e1.asp

I find it a most interesting idea. 


Jim

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com 
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Sad Der
Sent: Friday, November 03, 2006 8:42 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] OT: ASP.Net Opening Access 2003 reports?

Hi Jim,

This sounds really nice. Do you happen to have a link to that article?

Sander

----- Original Message ----
From: Jim DeMarco <Jdemarco at hudsonhealthplan.org>
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Tuesday, October 31, 2006 5:00:10 PM
Subject: Re: [AccessD] OT: ASP.Net Opening Access 2003 reports?

Sander,

I read an interestig article a while back that detailed how to use
Access as the reporting engine for ASP.NET applications.  In short it
involves getting input from your user and running the report in Access
(installed on server I'd imagine).  The report is then exported to XML
from Access by your .NET app.  Access does a real good job of creating
XML/XSL so the reports will look like Access reports.

I hope that makes sense (and helps). 


Jim DeMarco

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com 
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Sad Der
Sent: Tuesday, October 31, 2006 9:18 AM
To: Acces User Group
Subject: [AccessD] OT: ASP.Net Opening Access 2003 reports?

Hi group,

does anybody know how difficult it is to open a report in an Access 2003
database using Asp.Net?
We're using an intranet and VPN. So that shouldn't be the big issue.

Thnx in @vance.

Regards,

Sander



From gjgiever at myway.com  Fri Nov  3 09:27:32 2006
From: gjgiever at myway.com (Gary J. Giever)
Date: Fri,  3 Nov 2006 10:27:32 -0500 (EST)
Subject: [AccessD] Simple SQL Statement
Message-ID: <20061103152732.67F2967680@mprdmxin.myway.com>


YES!  That did it.  Thank you very much.


Gary J. Giever, M.A.
Applications Developer
ACCMHS


 --- On Fri 11/03, Gustav Brock < Gustav at cactus.dk > wrote:
From: Gustav Brock [mailto: Gustav at cactus.dk]
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Date: Fri, 03 Nov 2006 15:42:18 +0100
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Simple SQL Statement

Hi GaryTry applying a name for the index:ALTER TABLE tblClientMaster ADD CONSTRAINT IndexName UNIQUE (CCASE_NO);or:ALTER TABLE tblClientMaster ADD CONSTRAINT IndexName PRIMARY KEY (CCASE_NO);/gustav>>> gjgiever at myway.com 03-11-2006 15:12:25 >>>I'm setting up a program that must make a copy of a table (dbo_CLIENTMAST)in a different application then make one of the fields in the new table a primary key.  Making the copy is easy but changing the field to a primary key is causing me some problems.  I've tried various SQL statements but none have worked.  This is my last attempt and it seems like it should work but I get the message "Syntax error in CONSTRAINT clause."  tblClientMaster is the new table.ALTER TABLE tblClientMaster ADD CONSTRAINT UNIQUE (CCASE_NO);Any help would be much appreciated.Gary J. Giever, M.A.Applications DeveloperACCMHS-- AccessD mailing listAccessD at databaseadvisors.comhttp://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessdWebsite: 
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From gregsmith at starband.net  Fri Nov  3 10:45:36 2006
From: gregsmith at starband.net (Greg Smith)
Date: Fri, 3 Nov 2006 10:45:36 -0600
Subject: [AccessD]  XML Import into Access 2003 (2nd retry w/o html)
Message-ID: <000001c6ff67$88527ee0$130a000a@DadsDell>


 (This is a second resend - my first one was html to illustrate the color
layout for ease of reading the XML, but it turns out to be too large, so
here it is in text only format)

Hi everyone!  It's been a while, or seems like it anyway!  Hope everyone is
well.

Below is a valid XML file, according to the shown DTD, except for the part
inside the <Docmuent> elements, which is normally image in b64 code, but
unnecessary for this example.

I know that Access does not like attribute-centric XML and will not import
it (correctly).  I know that it DOES like element-centric XML and WILL
import that.  I think (which can be dangerous) that what I have below is
attribute-centric, or some version of it, because, looking at examples from
Microsoft of element-centric XML, this does not look like it.  However,
looking at Microsoft's attribute-centric XML, it doesn't look like that
either.  Closer, but not like this.  

What I really need to do is import the data from this file into Access (I'm
using 2003).  Now, I could just read the file as a text file, and strip out
what I want, but that's not terribly efficient and might prove difficult to
do when there are duplicated element names or attribute fields.  

Ideally, I would like to be able to just directly import the xml data, using
a schema or some other document that can define this file, or convert it to
element-centric XML, for Access to accept.

Does anyone know how to do this or done this before or have some pointers I
could use to get me started in the right direction?  The creators of this
beast have NO experience with Access or Access databases so are of no help
in this matter.  My tax dollars at work.  L

Thanks in advance!!!

Greg

Valid XML File for the stated dtd-(watch for wrapping and alignment issues
with this type of file and text):

<!DOCTYPE REQUEST_GROUP SYSTEM 

"http://iowalandrecords.org/portal/dtd/CLRIS_PRIA_Request.dtd">
<REQUEST_GROUP>
  <REQUESTING_PARTY/>
   <RECEIVING_PARTY/>
    <SUBMITTING_PARTY/>
     <REQUEST>
                <KEY _Name="SubmissionID" _Value="4281"/>
                <KEY _Name="GroupName" _Value="JFB_Exemption20060831"/>
                <KEY _Name="SubmissionNumber" _Value="000000061000004281"/>
 
<PRIA_REQUEST_Type="Other"_TypeOtherDescription="ESubmission">
      	<PACKAGE>
            <PRIA_DOCUMENT _Code="" _NonRecordableIndicator="N" _Type="Deed"
_InstrumentDate="20060831" _CountyOfRecordationName="Scott"
_StateOfRecordationName="IA">
            <GRANTOR _FirstName="First" _MiddleName="mi" _LastName="Last"
_NameSuffix="" _UnparsedName="Last First mi" _Capacity=""
_NonPersonEntityIndicator="N"/>
            <GRANTEE _Capacity="" _NonPersonEntityIndicator="N"/>
            <PARTIES>
            <_RETURN_TO_PARTY>
            <NON_PERSON_ENTITY_DETAIL/>
            <CONTACT_DETAIL/>
            </_RETURN_TO_PARTY>
            </PARTIES>
            <EXECUTION/>
            <RECORDING_ENDORSEMENT>
            <_VOLUME_PAGE/>
            <_FEES _TotalAmount="31.00">
            <_FEE _Amount="15.00" _Description="StandardFee"/>
            <_FEE _Amount="3.00" _Description="DocMgmtFee"/>
            <_FEE _Amount="3.00" _Description="ERecordingFee"/>
            <_FEE _Amount="10.00" _Description="TransferFee"/>
            <_FEE _Amount="0.00" _Description="TransferTax"/>
            </_FEES>
            <_EXEMPTIONS _Description="Deed fulfilling contract"/>
            </RECORDING_ENDORSEMENT>
            <EMBEDDED_FILE _Description="" _EncodingType="B64Encode"
_ID="4421" _Name="Cert.pdf" _NumberOfPages="1">
            <DOCUMENT>-BLAH  - IMAGE FILE - BLAH BLAH ==</DOCUMENT>
           </EMBEDDED_FILE>
          </PRIA_DOCUMENT>
         </PACKAGE>
        </PRIA_REQUEST>
       </REQUEST>
</REQUEST_GROUP>





From markamatte at hotmail.com  Fri Nov  3 10:59:24 2006
From: markamatte at hotmail.com (Mark A Matte)
Date: Fri, 03 Nov 2006 16:59:24 +0000
Subject: [AccessD] Access to web
Message-ID: <BAY127-F20016D0BD346B1CE2EF406D2FE0@phx.gbl>

Hello All,

I would consider myself quite competent in SQL, VBA, and Access.  With that 
in mind...I would like to learn to create secure web based apps(convert some 
of my old Access dbs to web).

I need some direction as to what I should start learning/researching to 
accomplish this.  Any ideas, suggestions, or recommendations would be 
greatly appreciated.  I'm just not sure where to begin.

Thanks,

Mark A. Matte

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From newsgrps at dalyn.co.nz  Fri Nov  3 13:20:20 2006
From: newsgrps at dalyn.co.nz (David Emerson)
Date: Sat, 04 Nov 2006 08:20:20 +1300
Subject: [AccessD] Changing Rowsource for Graph (Sproc source)
In-Reply-To: <004901c6ff4c$af6dbdc0$6501a8c0@LaptopXP>
References: <00bb01c6ff1f$6f502430$e5ad0c54@minster33c3r25>
	<004901c6ff4c$af6dbdc0$6501a8c0@LaptopXP>
Message-ID: <7.0.1.0.0.20061104081814.01a97868@dalyn.co.nz>

Thanks for the suggestion.  However the problem seems to be in having 
the property accessible in the OnOpen event.  I get the same error 
when I try to read the property from there.

David

At 4/11/2006, you wrote:
>A long shot ideas.
>
>Use CHR$(39) instead of the single quote.
>Not sure the syntax is exactly correct or not but here is what I came up
>with.
>
>"EXEC sprptPipeGateForecastMth " & [Forms]![frmPipeWeldForecast]!cboGateIDNo
>& ", " & Chr$(39)
>& basConvertDate(basFirstMthDay([Forms]![frmPipeWeldForecast]![t
>xtGateMthStartMth])) & Chr$(39) & ", " & Chr$(39) &
>"basConvertDate(basFirstMthDay([Forms]![frmPipeWeldForecast]![txtGateMthEndM
>th])) " & Chr$(39)
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Andy Lacey
>Sent: Friday, November 03, 2006 3:10 AM
>To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
>Subject: Re: [AccessD] Changing Rowsource for Graph (Sproc source)
>
>Hi David
>I seem to recall having the same issue a long while ago. I was using queries
>and ended up setting the graph's rowsource to a query but modifying the
>query's SQL before opening the report. Not being an SQL kind of guy I don't
>know how that translates when you have Sprocs, or if it can at all, but I'm
>hoping that gives you a steer.
>
>-- Andy Lacey
>http://www.minstersystems.co.uk
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> > [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of
> > David Emerson
> > Sent: 03 November 2006 04:28
> > To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
> > Subject: [AccessD] Changing Rowsource for Graph (Sproc source)
> >
> >
> > Group,
> >
> > Access XP ADP
> >
> > I have a report that has a single graph on it (Unbound Object Frame:
> > Microsoft Graph Chart).  The RowSource property is set to a sproc
> > which has parameters.
> >
> > If I enter the following direct into the RowSource property the
> > report runs fine:
> > EXEC sprptPipeGateForecastMth 1085207198, '2006-11-01', '2007-10-01'
> >
> > However, I want to set the parameters based on values on a form.  The
> > help I found on the internet said that the reports OnOpen event was
> > the place to put it so I added:
> >
> > Me!graGraph.RowSource = "EXEC sprptPipeGateForecastMth " &
> > [Forms]![frmPipeWeldForecast]!cboGateIDNo & ", '" &
> > basConvertDate(basFirstMthDay([Forms]![frmPipeWeldForecast]![t
> > xtGateMthStartMth]))
> > & "', '" &
> > basConvertDate(basFirstMthDay([Forms]![frmPipeWeldForecast]![t
> > xtGateMthEndMth]))
> > & "'"
> >
> > When the report is run I get Runtime Error 2455 - You entered an
> > expression that has an invalid reference to the property
> > RowSource.  I get the same error if I try in the OnOpen event of the
> > report (this indicates that the property is not even
> > available OnOpen):
> >
> > MsgBox Reports!rptPipeGateForecastMth!graGraph.RowSource
> >
> > I know the property exists because the following works it I put it
> > into the report detail OnFormat event:
> > MsgBox Me!graGraph.RowSource
> >
> > I have tried setting the property on the detail OnFormat event but an
> > error comes up saying that you cant set this property after printing
> > has started.
> >
> > Any guidance on what I can try?



From cfoust at infostatsystems.com  Fri Nov  3 13:23:38 2006
From: cfoust at infostatsystems.com (Charlotte Foust)
Date: Fri, 3 Nov 2006 11:23:38 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] Access to web
In-Reply-To: <BAY127-F20016D0BD346B1CE2EF406D2FE0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <F55048AF7E974F429BB24597D7355EEA1782D5@INFOSERVER04.infostat.local>

Look at web design in VS.Net 2005.  

Charlotte Foust 

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Mark A Matte
Sent: Friday, November 03, 2006 8:59 AM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Access to web

Hello All,

I would consider myself quite competent in SQL, VBA, and Access.  With
that in mind...I would like to learn to create secure web based
apps(convert some of my old Access dbs to web).

I need some direction as to what I should start learning/researching to
accomplish this.  Any ideas, suggestions, or recommendations would be
greatly appreciated.  I'm just not sure where to begin.

Thanks,

Mark A. Matte

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From accessd at shaw.ca  Fri Nov  3 13:30:46 2006
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Fri, 03 Nov 2006 11:30:46 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] Access to web
In-Reply-To: <BAY127-F20016D0BD346B1CE2EF406D2FE0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <0J8600A8964T0WC0@l-daemon>

Hi Mark:

Your first option is to decide which language you what to become an expert
with...a Web based language. This assume you have a basic or better
knowledge with creating web pages. (html, css, JavaScript, xml)

The large standards are: Perl(cgi), java, PHP, ASP, ASP.Net and there is
python, ruby. All except ASP and ASP.Net are open source but you would
probably be most familiar with the structures of these two... ASP Lite and
PRO.

There is always Access ADP which I am totally unfamiliar with as there has
always been rumors of its immediate demise for going on more 5 years now....

Jim   

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Mark A Matte
Sent: Friday, November 03, 2006 8:59 AM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Access to web

Hello All,

I would consider myself quite competent in SQL, VBA, and Access.  With that
in mind...I would like to learn to create secure web based apps(convert some
of my old Access dbs to web).

I need some direction as to what I should start learning/researching to
accomplish this.  Any ideas, suggestions, or recommendations would be
greatly appreciated.  I'm just not sure where to begin.

Thanks,

Mark A. Matte

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From martyconnelly at shaw.ca  Fri Nov  3 14:02:13 2006
From: martyconnelly at shaw.ca (MartyConnelly)
Date: Fri, 03 Nov 2006 12:02:13 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] Access to web
In-Reply-To: <BAY127-F20016D0BD346B1CE2EF406D2FE0@phx.gbl>
References: <BAY127-F20016D0BD346B1CE2EF406D2FE0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <454BA045.1070103@shaw.ca>

I would look at some of the introductary AJAX sites
this comprises css html xml and javascript. or the use of ASP.Net
depending on your clients.

For security I would make myself familar with SQL Injection attacks
and cross site scripting.

Mark A Matte wrote:

>Hello All,
>
>I would consider myself quite competent in SQL, VBA, and Access.  With that 
>in mind...I would like to learn to create secure web based apps(convert some 
>of my old Access dbs to web).
>
>I need some direction as to what I should start learning/researching to 
>accomplish this.  Any ideas, suggestions, or recommendations would be 
>greatly appreciated.  I'm just not sure where to begin.
>
>Thanks,
>
>Mark A. Matte
>  
>

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From markamatte at hotmail.com  Fri Nov  3 14:08:13 2006
From: markamatte at hotmail.com (Mark A Matte)
Date: Fri, 03 Nov 2006 20:08:13 +0000
Subject: [AccessD] Access to web
In-Reply-To: <F55048AF7E974F429BB24597D7355EEA1782D5@INFOSERVER04.infostat.local>
Message-ID: <BAY127-F156F0802D25C8F2019440CD2FE0@phx.gbl>

Thanks Charlotte...just to make sure...we're talking about one of the items 
listed below?...or do you think I would need a combination of them...thanks, 
Mark

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>From: "Charlotte Foust" <cfoust at infostatsystems.com>
>Reply-To: Access Developers discussion and problem 
>solving<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
>To: "Access Developers discussion and problem 
>solving"<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
>Subject: Re: [AccessD] Access to web
>Date: Fri, 3 Nov 2006 11:23:38 -0800
>
>Look at web design in VS.Net 2005.
>
>Charlotte Foust
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Mark A Matte
>Sent: Friday, November 03, 2006 8:59 AM
>To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
>Subject: Re: [AccessD] Access to web
>
>Hello All,
>
>I would consider myself quite competent in SQL, VBA, and Access.  With
>that in mind...I would like to learn to create secure web based
>apps(convert some of my old Access dbs to web).
>
>I need some direction as to what I should start learning/researching to
>accomplish this.  Any ideas, suggestions, or recommendations would be
>greatly appreciated.  I'm just not sure where to begin.
>
>Thanks,
>
>Mark A. Matte
>
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From markamatte at hotmail.com  Fri Nov  3 14:20:08 2006
From: markamatte at hotmail.com (Mark A Matte)
Date: Fri, 03 Nov 2006 20:20:08 +0000
Subject: [AccessD] Access to web
In-Reply-To: <0J8600A8964T0WC0@l-daemon>
Message-ID: <BAY127-F38C3A2A39B11C521DC8687D2FE0@phx.gbl>

Marty and Jim,

Thanks for the feedback.  I have heard of almost everyting mentioned(and 
will be researching each)..And that is the question I'm trying to 
answer...which one to pick?

I'm still not sure what criteria I should use to pick a language?

Thanks,

Mark A. Matte


>From: Jim Lawrence <accessd at shaw.ca>
>Reply-To: Access Developers discussion and problem 
>solving<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
>To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem 
>solving'"<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
>Subject: Re: [AccessD] Access to web
>Date: Fri, 03 Nov 2006 11:30:46 -0800
>
>Hi Mark:
>
>Your first option is to decide which language you what to become an expert
>with...a Web based language. This assume you have a basic or better
>knowledge with creating web pages. (html, css, JavaScript, xml)
>
>The large standards are: Perl(cgi), java, PHP, ASP, ASP.Net and there is
>python, ruby. All except ASP and ASP.Net are open source but you would
>probably be most familiar with the structures of these two... ASP Lite and
>PRO.
>
>There is always Access ADP which I am totally unfamiliar with as there has
>always been rumors of its immediate demise for going on more 5 years 
>now....
>
>Jim
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Mark A Matte
>Sent: Friday, November 03, 2006 8:59 AM
>To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
>Subject: Re: [AccessD] Access to web
>
>Hello All,
>
>I would consider myself quite competent in SQL, VBA, and Access.  With that
>in mind...I would like to learn to create secure web based apps(convert 
>some
>of my old Access dbs to web).
>
>I need some direction as to what I should start learning/researching to
>accomplish this.  Any ideas, suggestions, or recommendations would be
>greatly appreciated.  I'm just not sure where to begin.
>
>Thanks,
>
>Mark A. Matte
>
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From DWUTKA at marlow.com  Fri Nov  3 14:24:42 2006
From: DWUTKA at marlow.com (DWUTKA at marlow.com)
Date: Fri, 3 Nov 2006 14:24:42 -0600 
Subject: [AccessD] Strategies for populating combo boxes
Message-ID: <17724746D360394AA3BFE5B8D40A9C1B0139AF9C@MARLOW_MAIN2.marlow.com>

Build a collection, pull the records once to fill the collection, then
populate the combos from a Callback function (which would get the data from
the collection, vs. the recordset)

Drew

-----Original Message-----
From: McGillivray, Don [IT] [mailto:Donald.A.McGillivray at sprint.com] 
Sent: Thursday, November 02, 2006 3:21 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: [AccessD] Strategies for populating combo boxes

Hello, All

I am working on a project where I've been asked to provide an interface that
allows users to choose selection criteria from a series of combo boxes and
use the results to open one of six reports.  This is a fairly simple
database - one table with about 20 columns and 1.1 million rows.  They have
already built the queries and reports; all they want me to do is provide an
easy way to specify selection criteria for the reports.

Since there is only a single table, building rowsources for the combo boxes
requires running summary queries against the various columns for all 1.1
million rows.  With 6 to 10 combo boxes on the form, that creates quite a
bit of hang time waiting for the combos to populate.  I'm considering
strategies for reducing the delay, one being to populate a series of temp
tables at DB open that can be used to populate the combos.  That way the big
delay happens only once upon DB start, and the UI should respond more
quickly.  I also thought of populating a single temp table with two columns
- one to identify the combo box in which the values will be used, and the
other with the values themselves.

I seek guidance from the experts.  Are either of these ideas worthy of
pursuit?  Is there a better way to get there from here?

Any and all comments, critiques, ideas welcome.

Thanks!

Don McGillivray

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From spikee at oatlandspark.org.uk  Fri Nov  3 14:49:34 2006
From: spikee at oatlandspark.org.uk (Chris Foote (Spike))
Date: Fri, 3 Nov 2006 20:49:34 -0000
Subject: [AccessD] Access to web
In-Reply-To: <BAY127-F20016D0BD346B1CE2EF406D2FE0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <200611032049.kA3Knpq22197@databaseadvisors.com>

Hi Mark!

I've been playing with HTML for about eight years now, and consider myself
to be fairly competent.  I've also been using Access and VBA for more or
less the same period. About 18 months or so ago I decided to take the plunge
and convert some of my static sites to use dynamic database-generated pages.
As my chosen web hosting company is Linux/Apache based I chose the MySQL/PHP
route.

I found the "conversion" from Access/VBA to MySQL/PHP very easy. I am not
trained as a programmer (I'm an electronics hardware engineer) but many of
the skills/techniques/disciplines (most learnt from this list) translated
well.

Hope this helps!

Best regards
Chris Foote

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[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Mark A Matte
Sent: 03 November 2006 16:59
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Access to web

Hello All,

I would consider myself quite competent in SQL, VBA, and Access.  With that
in mind...I would like to learn to create secure web based apps(convert some
of my old Access dbs to web).

I need some direction as to what I should start learning/researching to
accomplish this.  Any ideas, suggestions, or recommendations would be
greatly appreciated.  I'm just not sure where to begin.

Thanks,

Mark A. Matte

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From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com  Fri Nov  3 14:50:29 2006
From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (JWColby)
Date: Fri, 3 Nov 2006 15:50:29 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Strategies for populating combo boxes
In-Reply-To: <17724746D360394AA3BFE5B8D40A9C1B0139AF9C@MARLOW_MAIN2.marlow.com>
Message-ID: <00ba01c6ff89$b30fd700$657aa8c0@m6805>

Drew,

I was going to suggest this, however IIRC (and I was going to test this the
other day), collections are limited to 2^15 items in the collection (~32 k
items).  I seem to remember that he has some large tables. 


John W. Colby
Colby Consulting
www.ColbyConsulting.com

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of DWUTKA at marlow.com
Sent: Friday, November 03, 2006 3:25 PM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Strategies for populating combo boxes

Build a collection, pull the records once to fill the collection, then
populate the combos from a Callback function (which would get the data from
the collection, vs. the recordset)

Drew

-----Original Message-----
From: McGillivray, Don [IT] [mailto:Donald.A.McGillivray at sprint.com]
Sent: Thursday, November 02, 2006 3:21 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: [AccessD] Strategies for populating combo boxes

Hello, All

I am working on a project where I've been asked to provide an interface that
allows users to choose selection criteria from a series of combo boxes and
use the results to open one of six reports.  This is a fairly simple
database - one table with about 20 columns and 1.1 million rows.  They have
already built the queries and reports; all they want me to do is provide an
easy way to specify selection criteria for the reports.

Since there is only a single table, building rowsources for the combo boxes
requires running summary queries against the various columns for all 1.1
million rows.  With 6 to 10 combo boxes on the form, that creates quite a
bit of hang time waiting for the combos to populate.  I'm considering
strategies for reducing the delay, one being to populate a series of temp
tables at DB open that can be used to populate the combos.  That way the big
delay happens only once upon DB start, and the UI should respond more
quickly.  I also thought of populating a single temp table with two columns
- one to identify the combo box in which the values will be used, and the
other with the values themselves.

I seek guidance from the experts.  Are either of these ideas worthy of
pursuit?  Is there a better way to get there from here?

Any and all comments, critiques, ideas welcome.

Thanks!

Don McGillivray

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From dw-murphy at cox.net  Fri Nov  3 15:37:17 2006
From: dw-murphy at cox.net (Doug Murphy)
Date: Fri, 3 Nov 2006 13:37:17 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] Access to web
In-Reply-To: <BAY127-F156F0802D25C8F2019440CD2FE0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <003b01c6ff90$3c03e6e0$0200a8c0@murphy3234aaf1>

Check out Visual Web Developer Express on the Microsoft site.  It's free and
is an extrodinary tool for developing ASP.NET sites.

Doug 

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Mark A Matte
Sent: Friday, November 03, 2006 12:08 PM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Access to web

Thanks Charlotte...just to make sure...we're talking about one of the items
listed below?...or do you think I would need a combination of them...thanks,
Mark

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>From: "Charlotte Foust" <cfoust at infostatsystems.com>
>Reply-To: Access Developers discussion and problem 
>solving<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
>To: "Access Developers discussion and problem 
>solving"<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
>Subject: Re: [AccessD] Access to web
>Date: Fri, 3 Nov 2006 11:23:38 -0800
>
>Look at web design in VS.Net 2005.
>
>Charlotte Foust
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Mark A Matte
>Sent: Friday, November 03, 2006 8:59 AM
>To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
>Subject: Re: [AccessD] Access to web
>
>Hello All,
>
>I would consider myself quite competent in SQL, VBA, and Access.  With 
>that in mind...I would like to learn to create secure web based 
>apps(convert some of my old Access dbs to web).
>
>I need some direction as to what I should start learning/researching to 
>accomplish this.  Any ideas, suggestions, or recommendations would be 
>greatly appreciated.  I'm just not sure where to begin.
>
>Thanks,
>
>Mark A. Matte
>
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From DWUTKA at marlow.com  Fri Nov  3 15:42:47 2006
From: DWUTKA at marlow.com (DWUTKA at marlow.com)
Date: Fri, 3 Nov 2006 15:42:47 -0600 
Subject: [AccessD] Strategies for populating combo boxes
Message-ID: <17724746D360394AA3BFE5B8D40A9C1B0139AFC5@MARLOW_MAIN2.marlow.com>

Combos are limited to 65k. But I just whipped together a quick routine to
add a long integer to a collection.  In debug mode, without external
indication of how fast it was going, I stopped it for after about 20
seconds, and it had millions in the collection already.  Populating the
display with the collections count property ran over 65k in about a minute.
I would say the limit is closer to 2^31.

Drew

-----Original Message-----
From: JWColby [mailto:jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com] 
Sent: Friday, November 03, 2006 2:50 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Strategies for populating combo boxes

Drew,

I was going to suggest this, however IIRC (and I was going to test this the
other day), collections are limited to 2^15 items in the collection (~32 k
items).  I seem to remember that he has some large tables. 


John W. Colby
Colby Consulting
www.ColbyConsulting.com

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of DWUTKA at marlow.com
Sent: Friday, November 03, 2006 3:25 PM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Strategies for populating combo boxes

Build a collection, pull the records once to fill the collection, then
populate the combos from a Callback function (which would get the data from
the collection, vs. the recordset)

Drew

-----Original Message-----
From: McGillivray, Don [IT] [mailto:Donald.A.McGillivray at sprint.com]
Sent: Thursday, November 02, 2006 3:21 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: [AccessD] Strategies for populating combo boxes

Hello, All

I am working on a project where I've been asked to provide an interface that
allows users to choose selection criteria from a series of combo boxes and
use the results to open one of six reports.  This is a fairly simple
database - one table with about 20 columns and 1.1 million rows.  They have
already built the queries and reports; all they want me to do is provide an
easy way to specify selection criteria for the reports.

Since there is only a single table, building rowsources for the combo boxes
requires running summary queries against the various columns for all 1.1
million rows.  With 6 to 10 combo boxes on the form, that creates quite a
bit of hang time waiting for the combos to populate.  I'm considering
strategies for reducing the delay, one being to populate a series of temp
tables at DB open that can be used to populate the combos.  That way the big
delay happens only once upon DB start, and the UI should respond more
quickly.  I also thought of populating a single temp table with two columns
- one to identify the combo box in which the values will be used, and the
other with the values themselves.

I seek guidance from the experts.  Are either of these ideas worthy of
pursuit?  Is there a better way to get there from here?

Any and all comments, critiques, ideas welcome.

Thanks!

Don McGillivray

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From markamatte at hotmail.com  Fri Nov  3 16:05:08 2006
From: markamatte at hotmail.com (Mark A Matte)
Date: Fri, 03 Nov 2006 22:05:08 +0000
Subject: [AccessD] Access to web
Message-ID: <BAY127-F35BB73EB5B91751EDEDDD0D2FE0@phx.gbl>

No that's what I'm talking about...Good old fashion taught myself and it 
works!!!!  Sounds like me...I will definitely research.

Thanks,

Mark A. Matte


>From: "Chris Foote (Spike)" <spikee at oatlandspark.org.uk>
>Reply-To: Access Developers discussion and problem 
>solving<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
>To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem 
>solving'"<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
>Subject: Re: [AccessD] Access to web
>Date: Fri, 3 Nov 2006 20:49:34 -0000
>
>Hi Mark!
>
>I've been playing with HTML for about eight years now, and consider myself
>to be fairly competent.  I've also been using Access and VBA for more or
>less the same period. About 18 months or so ago I decided to take the 
>plunge
>and convert some of my static sites to use dynamic database-generated 
>pages.
>As my chosen web hosting company is Linux/Apache based I chose the 
>MySQL/PHP
>route.
>
>I found the "conversion" from Access/VBA to MySQL/PHP very easy. I am not
>trained as a programmer (I'm an electronics hardware engineer) but many of
>the skills/techniques/disciplines (most learnt from this list) translated
>well.
>
>Hope this helps!
>
>Best regards
>Chris Foote
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Mark A Matte
>Sent: 03 November 2006 16:59
>To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
>Subject: Re: [AccessD] Access to web
>
>Hello All,
>
>I would consider myself quite competent in SQL, VBA, and Access.  With that
>in mind...I would like to learn to create secure web based apps(convert 
>some
>of my old Access dbs to web).
>
>I need some direction as to what I should start learning/researching to
>accomplish this.  Any ideas, suggestions, or recommendations would be
>greatly appreciated.  I'm just not sure where to begin.
>
>Thanks,
>
>Mark A. Matte
>
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From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com  Fri Nov  3 16:17:03 2006
From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (JWColby)
Date: Fri, 3 Nov 2006 17:17:03 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Strategies for populating combo boxes
In-Reply-To: <17724746D360394AA3BFE5B8D40A9C1B0139AFC5@MARLOW_MAIN2.marlow.com>
Message-ID: <00c501c6ff95$cb2b4b60$657aa8c0@m6805>

Cool!  Good to know.  

And are you sure that combos are limited to 65K?  I seem to remember
actually running into the 32K limit, but it was awhile ago so don't sue me
if I'm wrong.  I do know that they slooowed waaaaaay doooowwwwwn at that
size. 

Now you can talk him through a callback function.  There's a subject not for
the faint of heart (at least to truly understand).

John W. Colby
Colby Consulting
www.ColbyConsulting.com

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of DWUTKA at marlow.com
Sent: Friday, November 03, 2006 4:43 PM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Strategies for populating combo boxes

Combos are limited to 65k. But I just whipped together a quick routine to
add a long integer to a collection.  In debug mode, without external
indication of how fast it was going, I stopped it for after about 20
seconds, and it had millions in the collection already.  Populating the
display with the collections count property ran over 65k in about a minute.
I would say the limit is closer to 2^31.

Drew

-----Original Message-----
From: JWColby [mailto:jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com]
Sent: Friday, November 03, 2006 2:50 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Strategies for populating combo boxes

Drew,

I was going to suggest this, however IIRC (and I was going to test this the
other day), collections are limited to 2^15 items in the collection (~32 k
items).  I seem to remember that he has some large tables. 


John W. Colby
Colby Consulting
www.ColbyConsulting.com

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of DWUTKA at marlow.com
Sent: Friday, November 03, 2006 3:25 PM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Strategies for populating combo boxes

Build a collection, pull the records once to fill the collection, then
populate the combos from a Callback function (which would get the data from
the collection, vs. the recordset)

Drew



From JHewson at karta.com  Fri Nov  3 16:22:10 2006
From: JHewson at karta.com (Jim Hewson)
Date: Fri, 3 Nov 2006 16:22:10 -0600
Subject: [AccessD] Strategies for populating combo boxes
Message-ID: <9C382E065F54AE48BC3AA7925DCBB01C04908B19@karta-exc-int.Karta.com>

I ran into the 64k limitation a couple of weeks ago.
The combo box and list box are both limited.
Had a little over 65K list of names... wouldn't show the last 1K or so.
It wasn't very slow, but the users would not have found it except they wanted to find a name starting with Z.

Jim 
jhewson at karta.com
 
-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of JWColby
Sent: Friday, November 03, 2006 4:17 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Strategies for populating combo boxes

Cool!  Good to know.  

And are you sure that combos are limited to 65K?  I seem to remember
actually running into the 32K limit, but it was awhile ago so don't sue me
if I'm wrong.  I do know that they slooowed waaaaaay doooowwwwwn at that
size. 

Now you can talk him through a callback function.  There's a subject not for
the faint of heart (at least to truly understand).

John W. Colby
Colby Consulting
www.ColbyConsulting.com

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of DWUTKA at marlow.com
Sent: Friday, November 03, 2006 4:43 PM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Strategies for populating combo boxes

Combos are limited to 65k. But I just whipped together a quick routine to
add a long integer to a collection.  In debug mode, without external
indication of how fast it was going, I stopped it for after about 20
seconds, and it had millions in the collection already.  Populating the
display with the collections count property ran over 65k in about a minute.
I would say the limit is closer to 2^31.

Drew

-----Original Message-----
From: JWColby [mailto:jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com]
Sent: Friday, November 03, 2006 2:50 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Strategies for populating combo boxes

Drew,

I was going to suggest this, however IIRC (and I was going to test this the
other day), collections are limited to 2^15 items in the collection (~32 k
items).  I seem to remember that he has some large tables. 


John W. Colby
Colby Consulting
www.ColbyConsulting.com

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of DWUTKA at marlow.com
Sent: Friday, November 03, 2006 3:25 PM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Strategies for populating combo boxes

Build a collection, pull the records once to fill the collection, then
populate the combos from a Callback function (which would get the data from
the collection, vs. the recordset)

Drew

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From DWUTKA at marlow.com  Fri Nov  3 16:20:57 2006
From: DWUTKA at marlow.com (DWUTKA at marlow.com)
Date: Fri, 3 Nov 2006 16:20:57 -0600 
Subject: [AccessD] Strategies for populating combo boxes
Message-ID: <17724746D360394AA3BFE5B8D40A9C1B0139AFD8@MARLOW_MAIN2.marlow.com>

Access 97's help file was a pretty easy read to do it, along with a sample
function.

Drew

-----Original Message-----
From: JWColby [mailto:jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com] 
Sent: Friday, November 03, 2006 4:17 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Strategies for populating combo boxes

Cool!  Good to know.  

And are you sure that combos are limited to 65K?  I seem to remember
actually running into the 32K limit, but it was awhile ago so don't sue me
if I'm wrong.  I do know that they slooowed waaaaaay doooowwwwwn at that
size. 

Now you can talk him through a callback function.  There's a subject not for
the faint of heart (at least to truly understand).

John W. Colby
Colby Consulting
www.ColbyConsulting.com

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of DWUTKA at marlow.com
Sent: Friday, November 03, 2006 4:43 PM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Strategies for populating combo boxes

Combos are limited to 65k. But I just whipped together a quick routine to
add a long integer to a collection.  In debug mode, without external
indication of how fast it was going, I stopped it for after about 20
seconds, and it had millions in the collection already.  Populating the
display with the collections count property ran over 65k in about a minute.
I would say the limit is closer to 2^31.

Drew

-----Original Message-----
From: JWColby [mailto:jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com]
Sent: Friday, November 03, 2006 2:50 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Strategies for populating combo boxes

Drew,

I was going to suggest this, however IIRC (and I was going to test this the
other day), collections are limited to 2^15 items in the collection (~32 k
items).  I seem to remember that he has some large tables. 


John W. Colby
Colby Consulting
www.ColbyConsulting.com

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of DWUTKA at marlow.com
Sent: Friday, November 03, 2006 3:25 PM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Strategies for populating combo boxes

Build a collection, pull the records once to fill the collection, then
populate the combos from a Callback function (which would get the data from
the collection, vs. the recordset)

Drew

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From DWUTKA at marlow.com  Fri Nov  3 16:21:30 2006
From: DWUTKA at marlow.com (DWUTKA at marlow.com)
Date: Fri, 3 Nov 2006 16:21:30 -0600 
Subject: [AccessD] Access to web
Message-ID: <17724746D360394AA3BFE5B8D40A9C1BDD57@MARLOW_MAIN2.marlow.com>

ASP.  It's free.  If you have Windows 2000 or XP, you can install a local
webserver to play with it.  The 'web server' is identical to what you get on
a server, it's just limited by how many people can hit it concurrently.

ASP is just a script language.  Personally, I use Microsoft Script Editor
10, which comes with Front page.  Handy to write both HTML and ASP.

Drew

-----Original Message-----
From: Mark A Matte [mailto:markamatte at hotmail.com]
Sent: Friday, November 03, 2006 2:20 PM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Access to web


Marty and Jim,

Thanks for the feedback.  I have heard of almost everyting mentioned(and 
will be researching each)..And that is the question I'm trying to 
answer...which one to pick?

I'm still not sure what criteria I should use to pick a language?

Thanks,

Mark A. Matte


>From: Jim Lawrence <accessd at shaw.ca>
>Reply-To: Access Developers discussion and problem 
>solving<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
>To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem 
>solving'"<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
>Subject: Re: [AccessD] Access to web
>Date: Fri, 03 Nov 2006 11:30:46 -0800
>
>Hi Mark:
>
>Your first option is to decide which language you what to become an expert
>with...a Web based language. This assume you have a basic or better
>knowledge with creating web pages. (html, css, JavaScript, xml)
>
>The large standards are: Perl(cgi), java, PHP, ASP, ASP.Net and there is
>python, ruby. All except ASP and ASP.Net are open source but you would
>probably be most familiar with the structures of these two... ASP Lite and
>PRO.
>
>There is always Access ADP which I am totally unfamiliar with as there has
>always been rumors of its immediate demise for going on more 5 years 
>now....
>
>Jim
>
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>Sent: Friday, November 03, 2006 8:59 AM
>To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
>Subject: Re: [AccessD] Access to web
>
>Hello All,
>
>I would consider myself quite competent in SQL, VBA, and Access.  With that
>in mind...I would like to learn to create secure web based apps(convert 
>some
>of my old Access dbs to web).
>
>I need some direction as to what I should start learning/researching to
>accomplish this.  Any ideas, suggestions, or recommendations would be
>greatly appreciated.  I'm just not sure where to begin.
>
>Thanks,
>
>Mark A. Matte
>
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From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com  Fri Nov  3 17:02:06 2006
From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (JWColby)
Date: Fri, 3 Nov 2006 18:02:06 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Strategies for populating combo boxes
In-Reply-To: <17724746D360394AA3BFE5B8D40A9C1B0139AFD8@MARLOW_MAIN2.marlow.com>
Message-ID: <00ca01c6ff9c$16677da0$657aa8c0@m6805>

LOL.  And I did and have, but to actually understand it...  I was trying to
generalize it.  To make a callback where one callback could be used for more
than one object, with more than one datasource.  It got ugly pretty quick.
If you have 500 combos in a big app and wanted to use a callback for many of
them, it gets painful building a new one for each object.

John W. Colby
Colby Consulting
www.ColbyConsulting.com

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of DWUTKA at marlow.com
Sent: Friday, November 03, 2006 5:21 PM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Strategies for populating combo boxes

Access 97's help file was a pretty easy read to do it, along with a sample
function.

Drew

-----Original Message-----
From: JWColby [mailto:jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com]
Sent: Friday, November 03, 2006 4:17 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Strategies for populating combo boxes

Cool!  Good to know.  

And are you sure that combos are limited to 65K?  I seem to remember
actually running into the 32K limit, but it was awhile ago so don't sue me
if I'm wrong.  I do know that they slooowed waaaaaay doooowwwwwn at that
size. 

Now you can talk him through a callback function.  There's a subject not for
the faint of heart (at least to truly understand).

John W. Colby
Colby Consulting
www.ColbyConsulting.com

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of DWUTKA at marlow.com
Sent: Friday, November 03, 2006 4:43 PM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Strategies for populating combo boxes

Combos are limited to 65k. But I just whipped together a quick routine to
add a long integer to a collection.  In debug mode, without external
indication of how fast it was going, I stopped it for after about 20
seconds, and it had millions in the collection already.  Populating the
display with the collections count property ran over 65k in about a minute.
I would say the limit is closer to 2^31.

Drew

-----Original Message-----
From: JWColby [mailto:jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com]
Sent: Friday, November 03, 2006 2:50 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Strategies for populating combo boxes

Drew,

I was going to suggest this, however IIRC (and I was going to test this the
other day), collections are limited to 2^15 items in the collection (~32 k
items).  I seem to remember that he has some large tables. 


John W. Colby
Colby Consulting
www.ColbyConsulting.com

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of DWUTKA at marlow.com
Sent: Friday, November 03, 2006 3:25 PM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Strategies for populating combo boxes

Build a collection, pull the records once to fill the collection, then
populate the combos from a Callback function (which would get the data from
the collection, vs. the recordset)

Drew

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From DWUTKA at marlow.com  Fri Nov  3 17:10:39 2006
From: DWUTKA at marlow.com (DWUTKA at marlow.com)
Date: Fri, 3 Nov 2006 17:10:39 -0600 
Subject: [AccessD] Strategies for populating combo boxes
Message-ID: <17724746D360394AA3BFE5B8D40A9C1B0139AFE8@MARLOW_MAIN2.marlow.com>

Oh, well I only use a callback when it's called for. (pun intended).  Most
common functions of a callback are just fine for 99% of what you need a
combo for.  The callback functionality is best for that other 1%.  For
instance, I wrote a utility that let you print or preview reports in a
database.  Using a value list runs into trouble if you have too many
reports, because it can only be ~2048 characters in length.  A callback did
the trick.

Also in tricky situations, like the one described in this thread, callbacks
provide better control of a combo/listbox.

Drew

-----Original Message-----
From: JWColby [mailto:jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com] 
Sent: Friday, November 03, 2006 5:02 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Strategies for populating combo boxes

LOL.  And I did and have, but to actually understand it...  I was trying to
generalize it.  To make a callback where one callback could be used for more
than one object, with more than one datasource.  It got ugly pretty quick.
If you have 500 combos in a big app and wanted to use a callback for many of
them, it gets painful building a new one for each object.

John W. Colby
Colby Consulting
www.ColbyConsulting.com

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of DWUTKA at marlow.com
Sent: Friday, November 03, 2006 5:21 PM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Strategies for populating combo boxes

Access 97's help file was a pretty easy read to do it, along with a sample
function.

Drew

-----Original Message-----
From: JWColby [mailto:jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com]
Sent: Friday, November 03, 2006 4:17 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Strategies for populating combo boxes

Cool!  Good to know.  

And are you sure that combos are limited to 65K?  I seem to remember
actually running into the 32K limit, but it was awhile ago so don't sue me
if I'm wrong.  I do know that they slooowed waaaaaay doooowwwwwn at that
size. 

Now you can talk him through a callback function.  There's a subject not for
the faint of heart (at least to truly understand).

John W. Colby
Colby Consulting
www.ColbyConsulting.com

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of DWUTKA at marlow.com
Sent: Friday, November 03, 2006 4:43 PM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Strategies for populating combo boxes

Combos are limited to 65k. But I just whipped together a quick routine to
add a long integer to a collection.  In debug mode, without external
indication of how fast it was going, I stopped it for after about 20
seconds, and it had millions in the collection already.  Populating the
display with the collections count property ran over 65k in about a minute.
I would say the limit is closer to 2^31.

Drew

-----Original Message-----
From: JWColby [mailto:jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com]
Sent: Friday, November 03, 2006 2:50 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Strategies for populating combo boxes

Drew,

I was going to suggest this, however IIRC (and I was going to test this the
other day), collections are limited to 2^15 items in the collection (~32 k
items).  I seem to remember that he has some large tables. 


John W. Colby
Colby Consulting
www.ColbyConsulting.com

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of DWUTKA at marlow.com
Sent: Friday, November 03, 2006 3:25 PM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Strategies for populating combo boxes

Build a collection, pull the records once to fill the collection, then
populate the combos from a Callback function (which would get the data from
the collection, vs. the recordset)

Drew

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From stuart at lexacorp.com.pg  Fri Nov  3 17:28:07 2006
From: stuart at lexacorp.com.pg (Stuart McLachlan)
Date: Sat, 04 Nov 2006 09:28:07 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] Access to web
In-Reply-To: <BAY127-F38C3A2A39B11C521DC8687D2FE0@phx.gbl>
References: <0J8600A8964T0WC0@l-daemon>,
	<BAY127-F38C3A2A39B11C521DC8687D2FE0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <454BD087.3169.1D36D481@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>

On 3 Nov 2006 at 20:20, Mark A Matte wrote:

> Marty and Jim,
> 
> Thanks for the feedback.  I have heard of almost everyting mentioned(and
> will be researching each)..And that is the question I'm trying to
> answer...which one to pick?
> 
> I'm still not sure what criteria I should use to pick a language?

The primary criteria is where this will be sited.

If you are usimg an service provider, you are limited to what they support 
My ISP runs on LAMP - Linux, Apache,mySQL, PHP so I can't use ASP there.

If you are setting up your own Intranet on MS servers or have a host that 
supports MS, you'll find ASP has the lowest learning curve with your 
background.

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From martyconnelly at shaw.ca  Fri Nov  3 17:45:08 2006
From: martyconnelly at shaw.ca (MartyConnelly)
Date: Fri, 03 Nov 2006 15:45:08 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] XML Import into Access 2003 (2nd retry w/o html)
In-Reply-To: <000001c6ff67$88527ee0$130a000a@DadsDell>
References: <000001c6ff67$88527ee0$130a000a@DadsDell>
Message-ID: <454BD484.2020903@shaw.ca>

Umm. I won't go on a rant about using DTD's and XML attributes.
I guess this a standard that has been developed by a committee over 10 
years.
I see, they have been discussing switching to the use of xsd schema's 
for 3 years.
When you see a dtd with a self-contained copyright and a disclaimer
that indemnifies against everything including global warning, I head for 
the hills.

However here is why attributes should not be used this way
http://www.xmlfiles.com/xml/xml_attributes.asp

These are some of the problems using attributes:

attributes can not contain multiple values (elements can)
attributes are not expandable (for future changes)
attributes can not describe structures (like child elements can)
attributes are more difficult to manipulate by program code
attribute values are not easy to test against a DTD

If you start using attributes as containers for XML data, you might end
up with documents that are both difficult to maintain and to manipulate.
What I'm trying to say is that you should use elements to describe your 
data.
Use attributes only to provide information that is not relevant to the
reader. Please don't end up like this:

Rules always have exceptions.
You can  assign ID references to elements in my XML documents.
These ID references can be used to access XML element in much the
same way as the NAME or ID attributes in HTML.

A couple of suggestions you might use a product like XMLSPY to do the 
conversion or
 a sister product like MAPForce from Altova, this would be a $5-700 
investment.
I am not sure if it would do all you want.
Good product if working daily with XML.

http://www.altova.com

It would be hard to read this via xmldom, maybe there is code written 
available
via a user group, it would amout to a couple of thousand lines. They may 
have a
an xslt to do the conversion.

You could also easily read via dotNet XMLTextReader class
Maybe write a VB.Net program to do something like this
You would read xml and use a select case to parse your way through.
The XMLTextReader doesn't verify against the DTD however.


<?xml version="1.0"?>
<MMTP>
    <LookUp>
    <ControlType>C1ComboBoxList</ControlType>
    <DBField>LastMedDate</DBField>
    <BookMark></BookMark>
    <ColumnIndex></ColumnIndex>
    <ControlName>cmbGoal5</ControlName>
    <Values VALUE="0" BookMark="Goal5Progress"/>
    <Values VALUE="1" BookMark="Goal5NoProgress"/>
    <Values VALUE="2" BookMark="Goal5NA"/>
</LookUp>
</MMTP>


Private Shared Function FormatXml(ByVal reader As XmlTextReader, ByVal
filename As String) As clsReportElements
Dim ReportElement As clsReportElement
Dim al As new clsReportElements  'ArrayList(117)
Dim lValue as string
Dim lBookmark as String
Try
   ReportElement = New clsReportElement
   While reader.Read()
      Select Case (reader.NodeType)
         Case XmlNodeType.Element
        '''***Other Elements removed for easy reading*****
            If (reader.Name = "Values") Then
               dim isValueAdded as Boolean  = False
               if reader.HasAttributes then
           Do while reader.MoveToNextAttribute ()
                 if len(Reader.Value.Trim) > 0 then
                if Reader.Name = "VALUE" then
                   lValue = Reader.Value
                End If                      
                 end if          
                 if Reader.Name = "BookMark" then
                if len(Reader.Value.Trim) > 0 then
                   lBookmark = Reader.Value.ToString
                   isValueAdded = True  
                end if
                 End If                                
        Loop                            
     End If                        
      if isValueAdded = True then
         ReportElement.AddValue (lValue, lBookmark)
      end if
   End If                      
         case XmlNodeType.EndElement
        If (reader.Name = "LookUp") then
             al.Add(ReportElement)
              ReportElement = New clsReportElement
        End If                
         case xmlnodetype.Attribute
        If (reader.Name = "Values") Then
           ReportElement.AddValue (0, reader.ReadElementString())
        End If                      
         End Select
End While
Return al
Catch ex As Exception
      Console.WriteLine("Operation Failed.")
      Console.WriteLine("Exception: {0}", ex.ToString())
Finally
      'Finished with XmlTextReader
      If Not reader Is Nothing Then
        reader.Close()
      End If
End Try
End Function


Greg Smith wrote:

> (This is a second resend - my first one was html to illustrate the color
>layout for ease of reading the XML, but it turns out to be too large, so
>here it is in text only format)
>
>Hi everyone!  It's been a while, or seems like it anyway!  Hope everyone is
>well.
>
>Below is a valid XML file, according to the shown DTD, except for the part
>inside the <Docmuent> elements, which is normally image in b64 code, but
>unnecessary for this example.
>
>I know that Access does not like attribute-centric XML and will not import
>it (correctly).  I know that it DOES like element-centric XML and WILL
>import that.  I think (which can be dangerous) that what I have below is
>attribute-centric, or some version of it, because, looking at examples from
>Microsoft of element-centric XML, this does not look like it.  However,
>looking at Microsoft's attribute-centric XML, it doesn't look like that
>either.  Closer, but not like this.  
>
>What I really need to do is import the data from this file into Access (I'm
>using 2003).  Now, I could just read the file as a text file, and strip out
>what I want, but that's not terribly efficient and might prove difficult to
>do when there are duplicated element names or attribute fields.  
>
>Ideally, I would like to be able to just directly import the xml data, using
>a schema or some other document that can define this file, or convert it to
>element-centric XML, for Access to accept.
>
>Does anyone know how to do this or done this before or have some pointers I
>could use to get me started in the right direction?  The creators of this
>beast have NO experience with Access or Access databases so are of no help
>in this matter.  My tax dollars at work.  L
>
>Thanks in advance!!!
>
>Greg
>
>Valid XML File for the stated dtd-(watch for wrapping and alignment issues
>with this type of file and text):
>
><!DOCTYPE REQUEST_GROUP SYSTEM 
>
>"http://iowalandrecords.org/portal/dtd/CLRIS_PRIA_Request.dtd">
><REQUEST_GROUP>
>  <REQUESTING_PARTY/>
>   <RECEIVING_PARTY/>
>    <SUBMITTING_PARTY/>
>     <REQUEST>
>                <KEY _Name="SubmissionID" _Value="4281"/>
>                <KEY _Name="GroupName" _Value="JFB_Exemption20060831"/>
>                <KEY _Name="SubmissionNumber" _Value="000000061000004281"/>
> 
><PRIA_REQUEST_Type="Other"_TypeOtherDescription="ESubmission">
>      	<PACKAGE>
>            <PRIA_DOCUMENT _Code="" _NonRecordableIndicator="N" _Type="Deed"
>_InstrumentDate="20060831" _CountyOfRecordationName="Scott"
>_StateOfRecordationName="IA">
>            <GRANTOR _FirstName="First" _MiddleName="mi" _LastName="Last"
>_NameSuffix="" _UnparsedName="Last First mi" _Capacity=""
>_NonPersonEntityIndicator="N"/>
>            <GRANTEE _Capacity="" _NonPersonEntityIndicator="N"/>
>            <PARTIES>
>            <_RETURN_TO_PARTY>
>            <NON_PERSON_ENTITY_DETAIL/>
>            <CONTACT_DETAIL/>
>            </_RETURN_TO_PARTY>
>            </PARTIES>
>            <EXECUTION/>
>            <RECORDING_ENDORSEMENT>
>            <_VOLUME_PAGE/>
>            <_FEES _TotalAmount="31.00">
>            <_FEE _Amount="15.00" _Description="StandardFee"/>
>            <_FEE _Amount="3.00" _Description="DocMgmtFee"/>
>            <_FEE _Amount="3.00" _Description="ERecordingFee"/>
>            <_FEE _Amount="10.00" _Description="TransferFee"/>
>            <_FEE _Amount="0.00" _Description="TransferTax"/>
>            </_FEES>
>            <_EXEMPTIONS _Description="Deed fulfilling contract"/>
>            </RECORDING_ENDORSEMENT>
>            <EMBEDDED_FILE _Description="" _EncodingType="B64Encode"
>_ID="4421" _Name="Cert.pdf" _NumberOfPages="1">
>            <DOCUMENT>-BLAH  - IMAGE FILE - BLAH BLAH ==</DOCUMENT>
>           </EMBEDDED_FILE>
>          </PRIA_DOCUMENT>
>         </PACKAGE>
>        </PRIA_REQUEST>
>       </REQUEST>
></REQUEST_GROUP>
>
>
>
>  
>

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From artful at rogers.com  Fri Nov  3 18:35:45 2006
From: artful at rogers.com (artful at rogers.com)
Date: Fri, 3 Nov 2006 16:35:45 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [AccessD] Access to web
Message-ID: <20061104003545.57918.qmail@web88214.mail.re2.yahoo.com>

Secure, IMO, means that you abandon Access as a back-end and focus on SQL Server or some other server database (MySQL, Oracle, DB/2, PostGres, Sybase, etc.). The security offered in such a platform is superior to that offered by Access. 

Typically, you create roles (groups of equivalent users), and then assign users to roles. You also prevent everyone from directly accessing tables, and allow them access to views, stored procedures and UDFs. You build up a hierarchy of roles, additively (i.e. managers can do everything everyone beneath them can do, but also have rights to do additional thngs such as run reports of salaries.

For the generic web user you create a role WebUser. For employees, you create several roles corresponding to the hierarchy of responsibility. The CEO has, in theory, access to everything, but in practice I am god, not the CEO, because I don't trust him to play safe.

So in a nutshell, if you want to move into web-dev, think SQL Server on the Back End and then choose any Front End that appeals to you (.NET, PHP, Ajax, DreamWeaver, whatever). In all cases the essential thing is to avoid dynamic SQL at all costs, and instead think everything out in stored procedures, views and UDFs.

HTH,
Arthur

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To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Sent: Friday, November 3, 2006 11:59:24 AM
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Access to web

Hello All,

I would consider myself quite competent in SQL, VBA, and Access.  With that 
in mind...I would like to learn to create secure web based apps(convert some 
of my old Access dbs to web).

I need some direction as to what I should start learning/researching to 
accomplish this.  Any ideas, suggestions, or recommendations would be 
greatly appreciated.  I'm just not sure where to begin.

Thanks,

Mark A. Matte

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From martyconnelly at shaw.ca  Fri Nov  3 19:24:35 2006
From: martyconnelly at shaw.ca (MartyConnelly)
Date: Fri, 03 Nov 2006 17:24:35 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] XML Import into Access 2003 (2nd retry w/o html)
In-Reply-To: <000001c6ff67$88527ee0$130a000a@DadsDell>
References: <000001c6ff67$88527ee0$130a000a@DadsDell>
Message-ID: <454BEBD3.8070305@shaw.ca>

Here is another VB.Net  variation that might help
 How Do I...Read XML from an XmlDataDocument?
http://samples.gotdotnet.com/quickstart/howto/doc/Xml/StreamXmlDocument.aspx

I think by rewriting the FormatXML function you could generate Entity 
only XML file


Greg Smith wrote:

> (This is a second resend - my first one was html to illustrate the color
>layout for ease of reading the XML, but it turns out to be too large, so
>here it is in text only format)
>
>Hi everyone!  It's been a while, or seems like it anyway!  Hope everyone is
>well.
>
>Below is a valid XML file, according to the shown DTD, except for the part
>inside the <Docmuent> elements, which is normally image in b64 code, but
>unnecessary for this example.
>
>I know that Access does not like attribute-centric XML and will not import
>it (correctly).  I know that it DOES like element-centric XML and WILL
>import that.  I think (which can be dangerous) that what I have below is
>attribute-centric, or some version of it, because, looking at examples from
>Microsoft of element-centric XML, this does not look like it.  However,
>looking at Microsoft's attribute-centric XML, it doesn't look like that
>either.  Closer, but not like this.  
>
>What I really need to do is import the data from this file into Access (I'm
>using 2003).  Now, I could just read the file as a text file, and strip out
>what I want, but that's not terribly efficient and might prove difficult to
>do when there are duplicated element names or attribute fields.  
>
>Ideally, I would like to be able to just directly import the xml data, using
>a schema or some other document that can define this file, or convert it to
>element-centric XML, for Access to accept.
>
>Does anyone know how to do this or done this before or have some pointers I
>could use to get me started in the right direction?  The creators of this
>beast have NO experience with Access or Access databases so are of no help
>in this matter.  My tax dollars at work.  L
>
>Thanks in advance!!!
>
>Greg
>
>Valid XML File for the stated dtd-(watch for wrapping and alignment issues
>with this type of file and text):
>
><!DOCTYPE REQUEST_GROUP SYSTEM 
>
>"http://iowalandrecords.org/portal/dtd/CLRIS_PRIA_Request.dtd">
><REQUEST_GROUP>
>  <REQUESTING_PARTY/>
>   <RECEIVING_PARTY/>
>    <SUBMITTING_PARTY/>
>     <REQUEST>
>                <KEY _Name="SubmissionID" _Value="4281"/>
>                <KEY _Name="GroupName" _Value="JFB_Exemption20060831"/>
>                <KEY _Name="SubmissionNumber" _Value="000000061000004281"/>
> 
><PRIA_REQUEST_Type="Other"_TypeOtherDescription="ESubmission">
>      	<PACKAGE>
>            <PRIA_DOCUMENT _Code="" _NonRecordableIndicator="N" _Type="Deed"
>_InstrumentDate="20060831" _CountyOfRecordationName="Scott"
>_StateOfRecordationName="IA">
>            <GRANTOR _FirstName="First" _MiddleName="mi" _LastName="Last"
>_NameSuffix="" _UnparsedName="Last First mi" _Capacity=""
>_NonPersonEntityIndicator="N"/>
>            <GRANTEE _Capacity="" _NonPersonEntityIndicator="N"/>
>            <PARTIES>
>            <_RETURN_TO_PARTY>
>            <NON_PERSON_ENTITY_DETAIL/>
>            <CONTACT_DETAIL/>
>            </_RETURN_TO_PARTY>
>            </PARTIES>
>            <EXECUTION/>
>            <RECORDING_ENDORSEMENT>
>            <_VOLUME_PAGE/>
>            <_FEES _TotalAmount="31.00">
>            <_FEE _Amount="15.00" _Description="StandardFee"/>
>            <_FEE _Amount="3.00" _Description="DocMgmtFee"/>
>            <_FEE _Amount="3.00" _Description="ERecordingFee"/>
>            <_FEE _Amount="10.00" _Description="TransferFee"/>
>            <_FEE _Amount="0.00" _Description="TransferTax"/>
>            </_FEES>
>            <_EXEMPTIONS _Description="Deed fulfilling contract"/>
>            </RECORDING_ENDORSEMENT>
>            <EMBEDDED_FILE _Description="" _EncodingType="B64Encode"
>_ID="4421" _Name="Cert.pdf" _NumberOfPages="1">
>            <DOCUMENT>-BLAH  - IMAGE FILE - BLAH BLAH ==</DOCUMENT>
>           </EMBEDDED_FILE>
>          </PRIA_DOCUMENT>
>         </PACKAGE>
>        </PRIA_REQUEST>
>       </REQUEST>
></REQUEST_GROUP>
>
>
>
>  
>

-- 
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Victoria, B.C.
Canada



From robert at servicexp.com  Sat Nov  4 09:15:41 2006
From: robert at servicexp.com (Robert)
Date: Sat, 4 Nov 2006 10:15:41 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] OT: Pricing Method ?
In-Reply-To: <454BEBD3.8070305@shaw.ca>
Message-ID: <000401c70024$188831f0$dcc05005@roberts>

 

This is probably a stupid question but.....

When calculating the selling price of an item, say by margin, do you
calculate based on the current received cost, or does one take the average
cost (of previously received items) + the current price and then perform the
calculations?

Total = AverageCost / (1 - m_dMargin)

Or say 

Total = RecievedCost / (1 - m_dMargin)


Another question....

What do you think is the best method of pricing an item in a Service
Oriented business. The business would sell both labor and components..


Thanks
Robert 



From accessd at shaw.ca  Sat Nov  4 11:19:25 2006
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Sat, 04 Nov 2006 09:19:25 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] OT: Pricing Method ?
In-Reply-To: <000401c70024$188831f0$dcc05005@roberts>
Message-ID: <0J8700F1UUPSR050@l-daemon>

Hi Robert:

There is no right-way. My specialty is POS applications and clients ask for
any number of ways to establish the markup on products.

1. An arbitrary amount. Then the margin is assigned. 
2. Percentage: As the product increases in prices a flat percentage does not
work. Sometimes a client has requested a incremental series of steps or
break points when applying percentage margins against products.
3. If the client sells a group of products of a similar value it is easier
to just apply a fixed margin.
4. Sometimes if a client has really done their research they can calculate
their monthly projected operating cost and then a margin/percentage can be
applied to create projected monthly sales. (Bigger companies use this method
but most small businesses just wing it.)
5. Some businesses just go with the Manufacture's suggested retail price and
then the margins can be all over the map.
6. Many businesses are either full or partial fianc?es and they tend to take
the pricing queues from their parent or partner company. ... But can get to
charge what ever rate they want on some specialty products.

The basic rule-of-thumb is one third principle which recommends 1/3 cost for
product purchase plus 1/3 cost of running the business and 1/3 for
profit/taxes/extra expenses/growth.

This is a long way to say that there is no right way to establish the
selling price. It can be a business model that uses high-markup and lower
volumes or low margins and higher volumes.

Using the method of applying Average Cost would only work if all the
products the store sells are of a similar cost. Most businesses tend to use
a method similar to your last suggestion.

Businesses like to be able to set a default method to establish their base
selling price for their product and I would give them a number of algorithms
to select from but then they want to go in to the view the calculated retail
prices of their product lines and make arbitrary changes.

As I see it there is no wrong way but if you are writing an application for
a client be assured that they want choices.

I hope this helps, does not confuse and has not strayed too far off the
subject.
Jim         

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Robert
Sent: Saturday, November 04, 2006 7:16 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] OT: Pricing Method ?

 

This is probably a stupid question but.....

When calculating the selling price of an item, say by margin, do you
calculate based on the current received cost, or does one take the average
cost (of previously received items) + the current price and then perform the
calculations?

Total = AverageCost / (1 - m_dMargin)

Or say 

Total = RecievedCost / (1 - m_dMargin)


Another question....

What do you think is the best method of pricing an item in a Service
Oriented business. The business would sell both labor and components..


Thanks
Robert 

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From robert at servicexp.com  Sat Nov  4 13:33:59 2006
From: robert at servicexp.com (Robert)
Date: Sat, 4 Nov 2006 14:33:59 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] OT: Pricing Method ?
In-Reply-To: <0J8700F1UUPSR050@l-daemon>
Message-ID: <000501c70048$2e0a70f0$dcc05005@roberts>

Jim,
 Thanks, indeed very helpful.. 

Would you, or have you ever, marked up the item based on it's average cost
plus current cost? If so, would the average be limited by a date frame?

Thanks
Robert 

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim Lawrence
Sent: Saturday, November 04, 2006 12:19 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: Re: [AccessD] OT: Pricing Method ?

Hi Robert:

There is no right-way. My specialty is POS applications and clients ask for
any number of ways to establish the markup on products.

1. An arbitrary amount. Then the margin is assigned. 
2. Percentage: As the product increases in prices a flat percentage does not
work. Sometimes a client has requested a incremental series of steps or
break points when applying percentage margins against products.
3. If the client sells a group of products of a similar value it is easier
to just apply a fixed margin.
4. Sometimes if a client has really done their research they can calculate
their monthly projected operating cost and then a margin/percentage can be
applied to create projected monthly sales. (Bigger companies use this method
but most small businesses just wing it.) 5. Some businesses just go with the
Manufacture's suggested retail price and then the margins can be all over
the map.
6. Many businesses are either full or partial fianc?es and they tend to take
the pricing queues from their parent or partner company. ... But can get to
charge what ever rate they want on some specialty products.

The basic rule-of-thumb is one third principle which recommends 1/3 cost for
product purchase plus 1/3 cost of running the business and 1/3 for
profit/taxes/extra expenses/growth.

This is a long way to say that there is no right way to establish the
selling price. It can be a business model that uses high-markup and lower
volumes or low margins and higher volumes.

Using the method of applying Average Cost would only work if all the
products the store sells are of a similar cost. Most businesses tend to use
a method similar to your last suggestion.

Businesses like to be able to set a default method to establish their base
selling price for their product and I would give them a number of algorithms
to select from but then they want to go in to the view the calculated retail
prices of their product lines and make arbitrary changes.

As I see it there is no wrong way but if you are writing an application for
a client be assured that they want choices.

I hope this helps, does not confuse and has not strayed too far off the
subject.
Jim         

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Robert
Sent: Saturday, November 04, 2006 7:16 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] OT: Pricing Method ?

 

This is probably a stupid question but.....

When calculating the selling price of an item, say by margin, do you
calculate based on the current received cost, or does one take the average
cost (of previously received items) + the current price and then perform the
calculations?

Total = AverageCost / (1 - m_dMargin)

Or say 

Total = RecievedCost / (1 - m_dMargin)


Another question....

What do you think is the best method of pricing an item in a Service
Oriented business. The business would sell both labor and components..


Thanks
Robert 

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From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com  Sat Nov  4 14:51:49 2006
From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (JWColby)
Date: Sat, 4 Nov 2006 15:51:49 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Building runtimes
Message-ID: <000001c70053$0d002f70$657aa8c0@m6805>

Does anyone know if it is possible to build a runtime "without cost"?  I
have built a database pro bono for Learning Disabilities Association, a
(USA) nationwide non-profit association for parents of children with
learning disabilities.  I would like to make it available to all of the
state chapters but when I go look at the Microsoft site, I cannot for the
life of me figure out how to actually get whatever is required to build
runtimes.  I have Office 2000, 2002 (XP) and 2003.  I had the developers
edition for 2K but not since, and am not really sure I can find that.  I am
not making any money on this and don't particularly want to spend any money
on this.
 
John W. Colby
Colby Consulting
www.ColbyConsulting.com
 


From dwaters at usinternet.com  Sat Nov  4 15:16:48 2006
From: dwaters at usinternet.com (Dan Waters)
Date: Sat, 4 Nov 2006 15:16:48 -0600
Subject: [AccessD] Building runtimes
In-Reply-To: <20630972.1162673963464.JavaMail.root@sniper6>
Message-ID: <000301c70056$8b031150$0200a8c0@danwaters>

Hi John,

One way or another, it costs something to make runtimes.  Office 2002
Developer edition cost more, and for 2003 you need Microsoft Office Access
2003 Developer Extensions.

I've made runtimes in both XP and 2003, and I believe that using the 2003
Developer Extensions was better.

I did get the Extensions CD for free about three years ago by attending the
Office 2003 Launch event in Minneapolis.  I got more free software at that
event that I ever used!

Best of Luck!
Dan


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of JWColby
Sent: Saturday, November 04, 2006 2:52 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] Building runtimes

Does anyone know if it is possible to build a runtime "without cost"?  I
have built a database pro bono for Learning Disabilities Association, a
(USA) nationwide non-profit association for parents of children with
learning disabilities.  I would like to make it available to all of the
state chapters but when I go look at the Microsoft site, I cannot for the
life of me figure out how to actually get whatever is required to build
runtimes.  I have Office 2000, 2002 (XP) and 2003.  I had the developers
edition for 2K but not since, and am not really sure I can find that.  I am
not making any money on this and don't particularly want to spend any money
on this.
 
John W. Colby
Colby Consulting
www.ColbyConsulting.com
 
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From DElam at jenkens.com  Sat Nov  4 15:17:09 2006
From: DElam at jenkens.com (Elam, Debbie)
Date: Sat, 4 Nov 2006 15:17:09 -0600 
Subject: [AccessD] Building runtimes
Message-ID: <7B1961ED924D1A459E378C9B1BB22B4C068DE860@natexch.jenkens.com>

I forget what the file name is, but there is one file that you need from the
developer edition.  I had this same issue when I created a runtime version
earlier this year and had to get a developer edition in addition to Sage
software's runtime builder.  The resulting package is huge too.

Debbie

-----Original Message-----
From: JWColby [mailto:jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com] 
Sent: Saturday, November 04, 2006 2:52 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] Building runtimes


Does anyone know if it is possible to build a runtime "without cost"?  I
have built a database pro bono for Learning Disabilities Association, a
(USA) nationwide non-profit association for parents of children with
learning disabilities.  I would like to make it available to all of the
state chapters but when I go look at the Microsoft site, I cannot for the
life of me figure out how to actually get whatever is required to build
runtimes.  I have Office 2000, 2002 (XP) and 2003.  I had the developers
edition for 2K but not since, and am not really sure I can find that.  I am
not making any money on this and don't particularly want to spend any money
on this.
 
John W. Colby
Colby Consulting
www.ColbyConsulting.com
 
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From stuart at lexacorp.com.pg  Sat Nov  4 15:34:11 2006
From: stuart at lexacorp.com.pg (Stuart McLachlan)
Date: Sun, 05 Nov 2006 07:34:11 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] OT: Pricing Method ?
In-Reply-To: <000401c70024$188831f0$dcc05005@roberts>
References: <454BEBD3.8070305@shaw.ca>,
	<000401c70024$188831f0$dcc05005@roberts>
Message-ID: <454D0753.5510.21F4DA6C@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>

Jim gave you a very good exposition of the vatious ways of establishing 
markup. Then one part he skipped over was what cost price to use.

There are several different ways of determining cost price. Which price is 
used is determined  by why it is being used and/or who is using it. 
The most common "Cost" prices are:

Last/Replacement cost.    
Gives you  an  indication of what it is going to cost you to replace your 
current stock when you use/sell it. Good for planners/managers.  Not used 
very often for determining prices/margins. Simple to implement
CurrentCost = NewCost

Average Cost.    
Tells you how much you have paid in total for your current stock and gives 
a reasonable indication of  unit costs to work out margins etc and whether 
you are making a profit in the business. Commonly used for determining 
prices/margins.   Good for accountants. A bit more complex to implement.
((CurrentStockOnHand * CurrentCost) 
+ (NewStockQty * NewCost))
/ (CurrentStockOnHand + NewStockQty) 

First In First Out (FIFO) Item Cost Tells you exactly what each item of 
stock cost you. Favoured by anal retentive accountants and auditors. 
Complicated to implement. You need to keep either a date/qty/cost table for 
each item or.  Every time an item is consumed, you need to check 
QuantityOnHand or keep track of a pointer into this table to work out when 
it was purchased and therefore what it cost.  

Actual Cost.    You store the individual cost against each item, not 
against each item type. It is only useful if you can identify individual 
items when they are bought/sold. 
Used for pricing/margins  when dealing with low volume/big ticket items and 
accountable items such as aircraft spares etc.  


On 4 Nov 2006 at 10:15, Robert wrote:

> 
> 
> This is probably a stupid question but.....
> 
> When calculating the selling price of an item, say by margin, do you
> calculate based on the current received cost, or does one take the average
> cost (of previously received items) + the current price and then perform the
> calculations?
> 
> Total = AverageCost / (1 - m_dMargin)
> 
> Or say 
> 
> Total = RecievedCost / (1 - m_dMargin)
> 
> 
> Another question....
> 
> What do you think is the best method of pricing an item in a Service
> Oriented business. The business would sell both labor and components..
> 
> 
> Thanks
> Robert 
> 
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From accessd at shaw.ca  Sat Nov  4 15:37:08 2006
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Sat, 04 Nov 2006 13:37:08 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] OT: Pricing Method ?
In-Reply-To: <000501c70048$2e0a70f0$dcc05005@roberts>
Message-ID: <0J88008UV6NAJM10@l-daemon>

Hi Robert:

If the item's costs are fairly constant then an average might be an
appropriate way to price an item... Mind you if the item is fairly
consistent there would seem to be no need for an average.... Just set an
reasonable markup and leave it until a major cost change requires a price
increase or decrease. If the items cost fluctuates dramatically then the
average price maybe be below cost.

Unless you are running a cost/price system like a stock exchange or a cost
plus seller store (ie, gas-station or grocery store) oscillating selling
prices would just confuse a customer. I would tend to just apply a
reasonable margin that would buffer the shifting costs until the difference
become to slim or too wide and then have the system trigger a recal of the
margin.

For your averaging system a moving date window would be a reasonable
constraint. No I have never designed an application that could marked up an
items using an averagering... But I have no idea of what type of business
you are designing for. 

HTH
Jim      

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Robert
Sent: Saturday, November 04, 2006 11:34 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: Re: [AccessD] OT: Pricing Method ?

Jim,
 Thanks, indeed very helpful.. 

Would you, or have you ever, marked up the item based on it's average cost
plus current cost? If so, would the average be limited by a date frame?

Thanks
Robert 

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim Lawrence
Sent: Saturday, November 04, 2006 12:19 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: Re: [AccessD] OT: Pricing Method ?

Hi Robert:

There is no right-way. My specialty is POS applications and clients ask for
any number of ways to establish the markup on products.

1. An arbitrary amount. Then the margin is assigned. 
2. Percentage: As the product increases in prices a flat percentage does not
work. Sometimes a client has requested a incremental series of steps or
break points when applying percentage margins against products.
3. If the client sells a group of products of a similar value it is easier
to just apply a fixed margin.
4. Sometimes if a client has really done their research they can calculate
their monthly projected operating cost and then a margin/percentage can be
applied to create projected monthly sales. (Bigger companies use this method
but most small businesses just wing it.) 5. Some businesses just go with the
Manufacture's suggested retail price and then the margins can be all over
the map.
6. Many businesses are either full or partial fianc?es and they tend to take
the pricing queues from their parent or partner company. ... But can get to
charge what ever rate they want on some specialty products.

The basic rule-of-thumb is one third principle which recommends 1/3 cost for
product purchase plus 1/3 cost of running the business and 1/3 for
profit/taxes/extra expenses/growth.

This is a long way to say that there is no right way to establish the
selling price. It can be a business model that uses high-markup and lower
volumes or low margins and higher volumes.

Using the method of applying Average Cost would only work if all the
products the store sells are of a similar cost. Most businesses tend to use
a method similar to your last suggestion.

Businesses like to be able to set a default method to establish their base
selling price for their product and I would give them a number of algorithms
to select from but then they want to go in to the view the calculated retail
prices of their product lines and make arbitrary changes.

As I see it there is no wrong way but if you are writing an application for
a client be assured that they want choices.

I hope this helps, does not confuse and has not strayed too far off the
subject.
Jim         

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Robert
Sent: Saturday, November 04, 2006 7:16 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] OT: Pricing Method ?

 

This is probably a stupid question but.....

When calculating the selling price of an item, say by margin, do you
calculate based on the current received cost, or does one take the average
cost (of previously received items) + the current price and then perform the
calculations?

Total = AverageCost / (1 - m_dMargin)

Or say 

Total = RecievedCost / (1 - m_dMargin)


Another question....

What do you think is the best method of pricing an item in a Service
Oriented business. The business would sell both labor and components..


Thanks
Robert 

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From martyconnelly at shaw.ca  Sat Nov  4 15:40:54 2006
From: martyconnelly at shaw.ca (MartyConnelly)
Date: Sat, 04 Nov 2006 13:40:54 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] Building runtimes
In-Reply-To: <000001c70053$0d002f70$657aa8c0@m6805>
References: <000001c70053$0d002f70$657aa8c0@m6805>
Message-ID: <454D08E6.3070403@shaw.ca>

Unfortunately TANSTAAFL

You will need one developers edition for one version of Access P&D Wizard
and preferably have only that version on the system, with Office
Jet and MDAC updated patches. You may have problems
on OS below Win 2000 ie. Access 2003 wont run on them.

Unless you want to handle a lot of phone support, I would get the Msi.
version of sagekey scripts, it is the cheapest, and will get you around
a lot of possible problems on OS installs. Msi doesn't need Wise installer
$425

Don't forget to test on a non-Admin account as this maybe where it
will be installed.

Maybe someone here has a copy, takes about an hour to do.

http://www.sagekey.com/access_2000.aspx

JWColby wrote:

>Does anyone know if it is possible to build a runtime "without cost"?  I
>have built a database pro bono for Learning Disabilities Association, a
>(USA) nationwide non-profit association for parents of children with
>learning disabilities.  I would like to make it available to all of the
>state chapters but when I go look at the Microsoft site, I cannot for the
>life of me figure out how to actually get whatever is required to build
>runtimes.  I have Office 2000, 2002 (XP) and 2003.  I had the developers
>edition for 2K but not since, and am not really sure I can find that.  I am
>not making any money on this and don't particularly want to spend any money
>on this.
> 
>John W. Colby
>Colby Consulting
>www.ColbyConsulting.com
> 
>  
>

-- 
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Victoria, B.C.
Canada



From billmorrill at comcast.net  Sat Nov  4 16:33:35 2006
From: billmorrill at comcast.net (Bill Morrill)
Date: Sat, 4 Nov 2006 15:33:35 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] DAO Code won't Compile
Message-ID: <e0c8e5110611041433t1979163cya1d91f0b01f9e10f@mail.gmail.com>

Need help on the following DAO code.  Using Access 2003 VBA reference set to
DAO 3.6 Object Library.  When I go to compile the code below the compiler
lights up [CALL_TYPE] and stops.  CALL_TYPE  is a field in the
qryCallAttempt but the compiler doesn't seem to understand this.  If I
comment out THE LINE strCallType = rst.CALL_TYPE then the compile stops at
the next line blnUnsuccessful = rst.UNSUCCESSFUL_ATTEMPT  - same thing it
doesn't see  rst.UNSUCCESSFUL_ATTEMPT ? ANOTHER FIELD IN qryCallAttempt.

Need some illumination.

Thanks,

Bill


 '_________________________________________________________________
DoCmd.Hourglass True

'declare object variables
Dim db As DAO.Database
Dim rst As DAO.Recordset

Set db = CurrentDb
Set rst = db.OpenRecordset("qryCallAttempt")


'declare non-object variables to be used in loop
Dim intCounter As Integer
Dim strCallType As String
Dim blnUnsuccessful As Boolean
Dim blnDeactivate As Boolean


'initialize variable
intCounter = 0

rs.MoveFirst
Do While Not rst.EOF 'loop through each record in the query and set
Deactivated in the recordset where applicable
      'initialize variables
      rs.Edit
      strCallType = rst.[CALL_TYPE]
      blnUnsuccessful = rst.[UNSUCCESSFUL_ATTEMPT]
      blnDeactivate = rst.[DEACTIVATE]

     If strCallType = "Call 1" And blnUnsuccessful = True And
Forms!frmPatientAddUpdate!Program = "NON-SCALE MEMBER" Then
            intCounter = intCounter + 1
            If intCounter = 3 Then
                 'update current record set
                 blnDeactivate = True
                 Me![DEACTIVATE] = blnDeactivate
                 rst.Update
                 rst.Close
                 DoCmd.Hourglass False
                 Exit Sub
            End If
      End If
      rst.Update
      rst.MoveNext
Loop

DoCmd.Hourglass False

'_____________________________________________________


From lizd1 at charter.net  Sat Nov  4 19:04:10 2006
From: lizd1 at charter.net (Liz Doering)
Date: Sat, 4 Nov 2006 19:04:10 -0600
Subject: [AccessD] Building runtimes
In-Reply-To: <000001c70053$0d002f70$657aa8c0@m6805>
Message-ID: <000001c70076$4e1a5d00$6601a8c0@Lillian>

I want to think I remember that this was easier with 97.  And your users
probably wouldn't care, so long as it worked.  Don't you have a stash of
ancient disks around?

 
Liz

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[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of JWColby
Sent: Saturday, November 04, 2006 2:52 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] Building runtimes

Does anyone know if it is possible to build a runtime "without cost"?  I
have built a database pro bono for Learning Disabilities Association, a
(USA) nationwide non-profit association for parents of children with
learning disabilities.  I would like to make it available to all of the
state chapters but when I go look at the Microsoft site, I cannot for the
life of me figure out how to actually get whatever is required to build
runtimes.  I have Office 2000, 2002 (XP) and 2003.  I had the developers
edition for 2K but not since, and am not really sure I can find that.  I am
not making any money on this and don't particularly want to spend any money
on this.
 
John W. Colby
Colby Consulting
www.ColbyConsulting.com
 
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From robert at servicexp.com  Sat Nov  4 19:29:26 2006
From: robert at servicexp.com (Robert)
Date: Sat, 4 Nov 2006 20:29:26 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] OT: Pricing Method ?
In-Reply-To: <454D0753.5510.21F4DA6C@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>
Message-ID: <000001c70079$d620dff0$dcc05005@roberts>


Stuart,
 Thank You Very Much! 

Robert

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Stuart McLachlan
Sent: Saturday, November 04, 2006 4:34 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] OT: Pricing Method ?

Jim gave you a very good exposition of the vatious ways of establishing
markup. Then one part he skipped over was what cost price to use.

There are several different ways of determining cost price. Which price is
used is determined  by why it is being used and/or who is using it. 
The most common "Cost" prices are:

Last/Replacement cost.    
Gives you  an  indication of what it is going to cost you to replace your
current stock when you use/sell it. Good for planners/managers.  Not used
very often for determining prices/margins. Simple to implement CurrentCost =
NewCost

Average Cost.    
Tells you how much you have paid in total for your current stock and gives a
reasonable indication of  unit costs to work out margins etc and whether you
are making a profit in the business. Commonly used for determining 
prices/margins.   Good for accountants. A bit more complex to implement.
((CurrentStockOnHand * CurrentCost) 
+ (NewStockQty * NewCost))
/ (CurrentStockOnHand + NewStockQty) 

First In First Out (FIFO) Item Cost Tells you exactly what each item of
stock cost you. Favoured by anal retentive accountants and auditors. 
Complicated to implement. You need to keep either a date/qty/cost table for
each item or.  Every time an item is consumed, you need to check
QuantityOnHand or keep track of a pointer into this table to work out when
it was purchased and therefore what it cost.  

Actual Cost.    You store the individual cost against each item, not 
against each item type. It is only useful if you can identify individual
items when they are bought/sold. 
Used for pricing/margins  when dealing with low volume/big ticket items and
accountable items such as aircraft spares etc.  


On 4 Nov 2006 at 10:15, Robert wrote:

> 
> 
> This is probably a stupid question but.....
> 
> When calculating the selling price of an item, say by margin, do you 
> calculate based on the current received cost, or does one take the 
> average cost (of previously received items) + the current price and 
> then perform the calculations?
> 
> Total = AverageCost / (1 - m_dMargin)
> 
> Or say
> 
> Total = RecievedCost / (1 - m_dMargin)
> 
> 
> Another question....
> 
> What do you think is the best method of pricing an item in a Service 
> Oriented business. The business would sell both labor and components..
> 
> 
> Thanks
> Robert
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From robert at servicexp.com  Sat Nov  4 19:29:42 2006
From: robert at servicexp.com (Robert)
Date: Sat, 4 Nov 2006 20:29:42 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] OT: Pricing Method ?
In-Reply-To: <0J88008UV6NAJM10@l-daemon>
Message-ID: <000101c70079$df783b70$dcc05005@roberts>

Jim,
  Again Thank You Very Much! 

Robert 

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim Lawrence
Sent: Saturday, November 04, 2006 4:37 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: Re: [AccessD] OT: Pricing Method ?

Hi Robert:

If the item's costs are fairly constant then an average might be an
appropriate way to price an item... Mind you if the item is fairly
consistent there would seem to be no need for an average.... Just set an
reasonable markup and leave it until a major cost change requires a price
increase or decrease. If the items cost fluctuates dramatically then the
average price maybe be below cost.

Unless you are running a cost/price system like a stock exchange or a cost
plus seller store (ie, gas-station or grocery store) oscillating selling
prices would just confuse a customer. I would tend to just apply a
reasonable margin that would buffer the shifting costs until the difference
become to slim or too wide and then have the system trigger a recal of the
margin.

For your averaging system a moving date window would be a reasonable
constraint. No I have never designed an application that could marked up an
items using an averagering... But I have no idea of what type of business
you are designing for. 

HTH
Jim      

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Robert
Sent: Saturday, November 04, 2006 11:34 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: Re: [AccessD] OT: Pricing Method ?

Jim,
 Thanks, indeed very helpful.. 

Would you, or have you ever, marked up the item based on it's average cost
plus current cost? If so, would the average be limited by a date frame?

Thanks
Robert 

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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim Lawrence
Sent: Saturday, November 04, 2006 12:19 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: Re: [AccessD] OT: Pricing Method ?

Hi Robert:

There is no right-way. My specialty is POS applications and clients ask for
any number of ways to establish the markup on products.

1. An arbitrary amount. Then the margin is assigned. 
2. Percentage: As the product increases in prices a flat percentage does not
work. Sometimes a client has requested a incremental series of steps or
break points when applying percentage margins against products.
3. If the client sells a group of products of a similar value it is easier
to just apply a fixed margin.
4. Sometimes if a client has really done their research they can calculate
their monthly projected operating cost and then a margin/percentage can be
applied to create projected monthly sales. (Bigger companies use this method
but most small businesses just wing it.) 5. Some businesses just go with the
Manufacture's suggested retail price and then the margins can be all over
the map.
6. Many businesses are either full or partial fianc?es and they tend to take
the pricing queues from their parent or partner company. ... But can get to
charge what ever rate they want on some specialty products.

The basic rule-of-thumb is one third principle which recommends 1/3 cost for
product purchase plus 1/3 cost of running the business and 1/3 for
profit/taxes/extra expenses/growth.

This is a long way to say that there is no right way to establish the
selling price. It can be a business model that uses high-markup and lower
volumes or low margins and higher volumes.

Using the method of applying Average Cost would only work if all the
products the store sells are of a similar cost. Most businesses tend to use
a method similar to your last suggestion.

Businesses like to be able to set a default method to establish their base
selling price for their product and I would give them a number of algorithms
to select from but then they want to go in to the view the calculated retail
prices of their product lines and make arbitrary changes.

As I see it there is no wrong way but if you are writing an application for
a client be assured that they want choices.

I hope this helps, does not confuse and has not strayed too far off the
subject.
Jim         

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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Robert
Sent: Saturday, November 04, 2006 7:16 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] OT: Pricing Method ?

 

This is probably a stupid question but.....

When calculating the selling price of an item, say by margin, do you
calculate based on the current received cost, or does one take the average
cost (of previously received items) + the current price and then perform the
calculations?

Total = AverageCost / (1 - m_dMargin)

Or say 

Total = RecievedCost / (1 - m_dMargin)


Another question....

What do you think is the best method of pricing an item in a Service
Oriented business. The business would sell both labor and components..


Thanks
Robert 

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From dwaters at usinternet.com  Sat Nov  4 19:42:27 2006
From: dwaters at usinternet.com (Dan Waters)
Date: Sat, 4 Nov 2006 19:42:27 -0600
Subject: [AccessD] DAO Code won't Compile
In-Reply-To: <28113472.1162679927476.JavaMail.root@Sniper26>
Message-ID: <000701c7007b$a73452b0$0200a8c0@danwaters>

Bill,

You might try changing the name CALL-TYPE to something else.  I've found
that I can't use the words Level or Note for the names of fields in tables.
Also, try removing the underscore from the field name.  I think in general,
all field names should be a continuous stream of letters and numbers (with a
letter as the first character).  Doing this removes a possibility for error.

Also, when you are in the code editor screen, select Tools|References, then
see if there are any references missing.  If so, the word MISSING should
precede the name of the reference that should be there.

Hope this helps,
Dan 
 

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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Bill Morrill
Sent: Saturday, November 04, 2006 4:34 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: [AccessD] DAO Code won't Compile

Need help on the following DAO code.  Using Access 2003 VBA reference set to
DAO 3.6 Object Library.  When I go to compile the code below the compiler
lights up [CALL_TYPE] and stops.  CALL_TYPE  is a field in the
qryCallAttempt but the compiler doesn't seem to understand this.  If I
comment out THE LINE strCallType = rst.CALL_TYPE then the compile stops at
the next line blnUnsuccessful = rst.UNSUCCESSFUL_ATTEMPT  - same thing it
doesn't see  rst.UNSUCCESSFUL_ATTEMPT - ANOTHER FIELD IN qryCallAttempt.

Need some illumination.

Thanks,

Bill


 '_________________________________________________________________
DoCmd.Hourglass True

'declare object variables
Dim db As DAO.Database
Dim rst As DAO.Recordset

Set db = CurrentDb
Set rst = db.OpenRecordset("qryCallAttempt")


'declare non-object variables to be used in loop
Dim intCounter As Integer
Dim strCallType As String
Dim blnUnsuccessful As Boolean
Dim blnDeactivate As Boolean


'initialize variable
intCounter = 0

rs.MoveFirst
Do While Not rst.EOF 'loop through each record in the query and set
Deactivated in the recordset where applicable
      'initialize variables
      rs.Edit
      strCallType = rst.[CALL_TYPE]
      blnUnsuccessful = rst.[UNSUCCESSFUL_ATTEMPT]
      blnDeactivate = rst.[DEACTIVATE]

     If strCallType = "Call 1" And blnUnsuccessful = True And
Forms!frmPatientAddUpdate!Program = "NON-SCALE MEMBER" Then
            intCounter = intCounter + 1
            If intCounter = 3 Then
                 'update current record set
                 blnDeactivate = True
                 Me![DEACTIVATE] = blnDeactivate
                 rst.Update
                 rst.Close
                 DoCmd.Hourglass False
                 Exit Sub
            End If
      End If
      rst.Update
      rst.MoveNext
Loop

DoCmd.Hourglass False

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From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com  Sat Nov  4 19:45:44 2006
From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (JWColby)
Date: Sat, 4 Nov 2006 20:45:44 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Building runtimes
In-Reply-To: <000001c70076$4e1a5d00$6601a8c0@Lillian>
Message-ID: <000601c7007c$1c963820$657aa8c0@m6805>

Liz,

In fact I do own the developer's version of '97.  Unfortunately, unless you
are very careful, installing a runtime can damage current installs of later
versions of Access.  That is why the installer companies exist, because they
know how to do it right and charge for the knowledge.  The install builder
of the day just wrote over the top of...

I don't own one of the install builders, and they aren't cheap.  I am not
going to pay that much for this project.  I am not giving up on this yet
though.

John W. Colby
Colby Consulting
www.ColbyConsulting.com

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Liz Doering
Sent: Saturday, November 04, 2006 8:04 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Building runtimes

I want to think I remember that this was easier with 97.  And your users
probably wouldn't care, so long as it worked.  Don't you have a stash of
ancient disks around?

 
Liz

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of JWColby
Sent: Saturday, November 04, 2006 2:52 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] Building runtimes

Does anyone know if it is possible to build a runtime "without cost"?  I
have built a database pro bono for Learning Disabilities Association, a
(USA) nationwide non-profit association for parents of children with
learning disabilities.  I would like to make it available to all of the
state chapters but when I go look at the Microsoft site, I cannot for the
life of me figure out how to actually get whatever is required to build
runtimes.  I have Office 2000, 2002 (XP) and 2003.  I had the developers
edition for 2K but not since, and am not really sure I can find that.  I am
not making any money on this and don't particularly want to spend any money
on this.
 
John W. Colby
Colby Consulting
www.ColbyConsulting.com
 
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From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com  Sat Nov  4 22:42:31 2006
From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (JWColby)
Date: Sat, 4 Nov 2006 23:42:31 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Dual cores running 100%
Message-ID: <000701c70094$d4860060$657aa8c0@m6805>

LOL, well I have nirvana.  Well... sorta.  I am in the process of CASS
validating my 65 million record database using Accuzip software, a rather
kludgy process which uses FoxPro to validate ~3 million record chunks.  I
have two instances running on two different files.  As you guys probably
know by now, my system is now running Windows 2003 SBS, a dual core AMD X2
at 2.8 GHz and 2 gbytes and a raid 6 array with two largish volumes.  
 
Running just one instance of Accuzip the system processes about 6 million
records / hour.  Starting the second instance, leaves the first still
processing about 6 million records per hour but the second is processing
about 2.4 million records per hour.  I find the inequality odd.  My
experience in the past (using XP Pro) is that it slowed down the first
instance and both instances would run at roughly the same speed.  Whatever.

 
So basically I get an additional 40+ % processing using the second instance
of Accuzip.  Boy would it be nice to have a 16x processor array right now,
but this is usable.  I have to process ~22 files, each file would take ~30
minutes if processed by itself.  Once the processing is finished, I delete
the undeliverables and pack the FoxPro database, then start the next file
importing.  
 
Once all 22 files are processed, I then have to re-import them into SQL
Server and process them further there.  At that point after the import I
will have deliverable addresses, I am deleting all undeliverables.  Since
the exported / reimported records have a PK that matches my original (big)
table, I will then have the ability to create a master list of completely
valid deliverable ADDRESSES (not necessarily people at those addresses).  It
appears so far the non-deliverables are running around 14% which means I
will end up with 86% of 64 million addresses in the deliverable master
address table.
 
This is only the address validation side of the picture.  The fun begins
when I normalize the big table into a bunch of smaller tables as discussed
in an earlier email.  I have actually done that for one specific job (a
boating database) in order to do matching on a small (50K) database of names
of yacht owners that they got from a client.  The biggest problem is that in
order to match names (or even addresses) you have to compare apples to
apples and neither database was in CASSed form, and neither database
provided "match codes" do do the comparison on.  Much work quickly to make
this happen.
 
John W. Colby
Colby Consulting
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From shamil at users.mns.ru  Sun Nov  5 02:31:12 2006
From: shamil at users.mns.ru (Shamil Salakhetdinov)
Date: Sun, 5 Nov 2006 11:31:12 +0300
Subject: [AccessD] OT: Recommended weekend reading :) - Ten incredibly
	dangerous software ideas
Message-ID: <000e01c700b4$c0d05320$6401a8c0@nant>

Hi All,

I have just got this link 

http://arxiv.org/ftp/cs/papers/0607/0607022.pdf

via google and I have just finished reading the first page of this document.

It looks interesting and promising to give new insights of software industry
intrinsic troubles. It gives "a systematic critique of the software
industry. This critique is accomplished using classical methods in practical
design science."

This is not an easy stuff to read I must say. Therefore maybe better
postpone its reading for Monday or better Tuesday because Monday is not
usually an easy day by definition :)

Enjoy!

--
Shamil
 




From stuart at lexacorp.com.pg  Sun Nov  5 04:58:56 2006
From: stuart at lexacorp.com.pg (Stuart McLachlan)
Date: Sun, 05 Nov 2006 20:58:56 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] DAO Code won't Compile
In-Reply-To: <e0c8e5110611041433t1979163cya1d91f0b01f9e10f@mail.gmail.com>
References: <e0c8e5110611041433t1979163cya1d91f0b01f9e10f@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <454DC3F0.2951.24D59B3F@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>

On 4 Nov 2006 at 15:33, Bill Morrill wrote:

> Need help on the following DAO code. 
...
     strCallType = rst.[CALL_TYPE]
...
>       blnUnsuccessful = rst.[UNSUCCESSFUL_ATTEMPT]
>       blnDeactivate = rst.[DEACTIVATE]
.
They should all be Bangs, not dots.

rst!Call_Type etc.

-- 
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From martyconnelly at shaw.ca  Sun Nov  5 11:13:19 2006
From: martyconnelly at shaw.ca (MartyConnelly)
Date: Sun, 05 Nov 2006 09:13:19 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] DAO Code won't Compile
In-Reply-To: <454DC3F0.2951.24D59B3F@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>
References: <e0c8e5110611041433t1979163cya1d91f0b01f9e10f@mail.gmail.com>
	<454DC3F0.2951.24D59B3F@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>
Message-ID: <454E1BAF.2060907@shaw.ca>

Here is an explanation

BangVSDot.zip Explains the difference in usage between the Bang (!) and 
Dot (.) in DAO.

http://rogersaccesslibrary.com/knowledge.html

I believed MS started enforcing the documented way of handling this in XP
or 2003. They were lax about this previously.

This might also explain from Peter Walker
http://www.papwalker.com/ref101/me.html

Stuart McLachlan wrote:

>On 4 Nov 2006 at 15:33, Bill Morrill wrote:
>
>  
>
>>Need help on the following DAO code. 
>>    
>>
>...
>     strCallType = rst.[CALL_TYPE]
>...
>  
>
>>      blnUnsuccessful = rst.[UNSUCCESSFUL_ATTEMPT]
>>      blnDeactivate = rst.[DEACTIVATE]
>>    
>>
>.
>They should all be Bangs, not dots.
>
>rst!Call_Type etc.
>
>  
>

-- 
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Victoria, B.C.
Canada



From rl_stewart at highstream.net  Sun Nov  5 17:36:49 2006
From: rl_stewart at highstream.net (Robert L. Stewart)
Date: Sun, 05 Nov 2006 17:36:49 -0600
Subject: [AccessD] Building runtimes
In-Reply-To: <mailman.1.1162749602.12525.accessd@databaseadvisors.com>
References: <mailman.1.1162749602.12525.accessd@databaseadvisors.com>
Message-ID: <200611052340.kA5Nejq28571@databaseadvisors.com>

John,

Check out techsoup.org for software
for non-profits like you are working
with.  Even though you would be paying
for it, the cost would be minimal through
their program.  I would recommend the 2 year
MSDN membership.  Then you have everything
you need to support them.

The hitch is that they have to be a recognized
501C organization.

Robert

At 12:00 PM 11/5/2006, you wrote:
>Date: Sat, 4 Nov 2006 15:51:49 -0500
>From: "JWColby" <jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com>
>Subject: [AccessD] Building runtimes
>To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'"
>         <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
>Message-ID: <000001c70053$0d002f70$657aa8c0 at m6805>
>Content-Type: text/plain;       charset="us-ascii"
>
>Does anyone know if it is possible to build a runtime "without cost"?  I
>have built a database pro bono for Learning Disabilities Association, a
>(USA) nationwide non-profit association for parents of children with
>learning disabilities.  I would like to make it available to all of the
>state chapters but when I go look at the Microsoft site, I cannot for the
>life of me figure out how to actually get whatever is required to build
>runtimes.  I have Office 2000, 2002 (XP) and 2003.  I had the developers
>edition for 2K but not since, and am not really sure I can find that.  I am
>not making any money on this and don't particularly want to spend any money
>on this.
>
>John W. Colby
>Colby Consulting
>www.ColbyConsulting.com
>




From garykjos at gmail.com  Mon Nov  6 07:46:10 2006
From: garykjos at gmail.com (Gary Kjos)
Date: Mon, 6 Nov 2006 07:46:10 -0600
Subject: [AccessD] Building runtimes
In-Reply-To: <000001c70053$0d002f70$657aa8c0@m6805>
References: <000001c70053$0d002f70$657aa8c0@m6805>
Message-ID: <aea6c4950611060546y7aeb54fcydd34ba8a023dc4bf@mail.gmail.com>

Happy Birthday JC!

(yesterday)

See, I put it in my PDA and it will now remind me forever and ever.

On 11/4/06, JWColby <jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com> wrote:
> Does anyone know if it is possible to build a runtime "without cost"?  I
> have built a database pro bono for Learning Disabilities Association, a
> (USA) nationwide non-profit association for parents of children with
> learning disabilities.  I would like to make it available to all of the
> state chapters but when I go look at the Microsoft site, I cannot for the
> life of me figure out how to actually get whatever is required to build
> runtimes.  I have Office 2000, 2002 (XP) and 2003.  I had the developers
> edition for 2K but not since, and am not really sure I can find that.  I am
> not making any money on this and don't particularly want to spend any money
> on this.
>
> John W. Colby
> Colby Consulting
> www.ColbyConsulting.com
>
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From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com  Mon Nov  6 09:27:51 2006
From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (JWColby)
Date: Mon, 6 Nov 2006 10:27:51 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Building runtimes
In-Reply-To: <aea6c4950611060546y7aeb54fcydd34ba8a023dc4bf@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <001f01c701b8$2041ec70$657aa8c0@m6805>

LOL, thanks.  It was a good day.  My son's half brother and his adoptive
family visited from Connecticut, a good time. 

John W. Colby
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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gary Kjos
Sent: Monday, November 06, 2006 8:46 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Building runtimes

Happy Birthday JC!

(yesterday)

See, I put it in my PDA and it will now remind me forever and ever.

On 11/4/06, JWColby <jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com> wrote:
> Does anyone know if it is possible to build a runtime "without cost"?  
> I have built a database pro bono for Learning Disabilities 
> Association, a
> (USA) nationwide non-profit association for parents of children with 
> learning disabilities.  I would like to make it available to all of 
> the state chapters but when I go look at the Microsoft site, I cannot 
> for the life of me figure out how to actually get whatever is required 
> to build runtimes.  I have Office 2000, 2002 (XP) and 2003.  I had the 
> developers edition for 2K but not since, and am not really sure I can 
> find that.  I am not making any money on this and don't particularly 
> want to spend any money on this.
>
> John W. Colby
> Colby Consulting
> www.ColbyConsulting.com
>
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From Jim.Hale at FleetPride.com  Mon Nov  6 10:24:07 2006
From: Jim.Hale at FleetPride.com (Hale, Jim)
Date: Mon, 6 Nov 2006 10:24:07 -0600 
Subject: [AccessD] OT: Recommended weekend reading :) - Ten incredibly	
	dangerous software ideas
Message-ID: <6A6AA9DF57E4F046BDA1E273BDDB67727DE0D0@corp-es01.fleetpride.com>

"Today successful software production depends on pattern programming
craftwork
cleverness.    .....Even so, the software industry can't even begin to
produce most of the software
that its customers really want in this way."

Wow. An entire profession dimissed. Kakfa would be proud. Much food for
thought here, much of which is probably correct but not very tasty.
Interesting read, thanks.
Jim Hale


-----Original Message-----
From: Shamil Salakhetdinov [mailto:shamil at users.mns.ru]
Sent: Sunday, November 05, 2006 2:31 AM
To: 'Access-D'
Subject: [AccessD] OT: Recommended weekend reading :) - Ten incredibly
dangerous software ideas


Hi All,

I have just got this link 

http://arxiv.org/ftp/cs/papers/0607/0607022.pdf

via google and I have just finished reading the first page of this document.

It looks interesting and promising to give new insights of software industry
intrinsic troubles. It gives "a systematic critique of the software
industry. This critique is accomplished using classical methods in practical
design science."

This is not an easy stuff to read I must say. Therefore maybe better
postpone its reading for Monday or better Tuesday because Monday is not
usually an easy day by definition :)

Enjoy!

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From garykjos at gmail.com  Mon Nov  6 10:31:08 2006
From: garykjos at gmail.com (Gary Kjos)
Date: Mon, 6 Nov 2006 10:31:08 -0600
Subject: [AccessD] Building runtimes
In-Reply-To: <001f01c701b8$2041ec70$657aa8c0@m6805>
References: <aea6c4950611060546y7aeb54fcydd34ba8a023dc4bf@mail.gmail.com>
	<001f01c701b8$2041ec70$657aa8c0@m6805>
Message-ID: <aea6c4950611060831p1da1dab3v970899060e749f6b@mail.gmail.com>

Cool. Glad to hear you had an enjoyable time with your extended family.

GK

On 11/6/06, JWColby <jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com> wrote:
> LOL, thanks.  It was a good day.  My son's half brother and his adoptive
> family visited from Connecticut, a good time.
>
> John W. Colby
> Colby Consulting
> www.ColbyConsulting.com
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gary Kjos
> Sent: Monday, November 06, 2006 8:46 AM
> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] Building runtimes
>
> Happy Birthday JC!
>
> (yesterday)
>
> See, I put it in my PDA and it will now remind me forever and ever.
>
> On 11/4/06, JWColby <jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com> wrote:
> > Does anyone know if it is possible to build a runtime "without cost"?
> > I have built a database pro bono for Learning Disabilities
> > Association, a
> > (USA) nationwide non-profit association for parents of children with
> > learning disabilities.  I would like to make it available to all of
> > the state chapters but when I go look at the Microsoft site, I cannot
> > for the life of me figure out how to actually get whatever is required
> > to build runtimes.  I have Office 2000, 2002 (XP) and 2003.  I had the
> > developers edition for 2K but not since, and am not really sure I can
> > find that.  I am not making any money on this and don't particularly
> > want to spend any money on this.
> >
> > John W. Colby
> > Colby Consulting
> > www.ColbyConsulting.com
> >
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From Drawbridge.Jack at ic.gc.ca  Mon Nov  6 10:30:39 2006
From: Drawbridge.Jack at ic.gc.ca (Drawbridge, Jack: #CIO - BPI)
Date: Mon, 6 Nov 2006 11:30:39 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] DAO Code won't Compile
In-Reply-To: <e0c8e5110611041433t1979163cya1d91f0b01f9e10f@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <0F3AFAE449DD4A40BED8B6C4A97ABF5B077531A4@MSG-MB3.icent.ic.gc.ca>

Bill,

I believe the lines referring to columns in your recordset (ie
rst.[CALL_TYPE]) should use the ! Not the . ( ie rst![CALL_TYPE] )

Also, your sample refers to rs and rst which will cause a problem.
Believe the rs may be a typo - all should be the same either rs or rst.

Hope this helps.
jack

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Bill Morrill
Sent: Saturday, November 4, 2006 5:34 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: [AccessD] DAO Code won't Compile

Need help on the following DAO code.  Using Access 2003 VBA reference
set to
DAO 3.6 Object Library.  When I go to compile the code below the
compiler
lights up [CALL_TYPE] and stops.  CALL_TYPE  is a field in the
qryCallAttempt but the compiler doesn't seem to understand this.  If I
comment out THE LINE strCallType = rst.CALL_TYPE then the compile stops
at
the next line blnUnsuccessful = rst.UNSUCCESSFUL_ATTEMPT  - same thing
it
doesn't see  rst.UNSUCCESSFUL_ATTEMPT - ANOTHER FIELD IN qryCallAttempt.

Need some illumination.

Thanks,

Bill


 '_________________________________________________________________
DoCmd.Hourglass True

'declare object variables
Dim db As DAO.Database
Dim rst As DAO.Recordset

Set db = CurrentDb
Set rst = db.OpenRecordset("qryCallAttempt")


'declare non-object variables to be used in loop
Dim intCounter As Integer
Dim strCallType As String
Dim blnUnsuccessful As Boolean
Dim blnDeactivate As Boolean


'initialize variable
intCounter = 0

rs.MoveFirst
Do While Not rst.EOF 'loop through each record in the query and set
Deactivated in the recordset where applicable
      'initialize variables
      rs.Edit
      strCallType = rst.[CALL_TYPE]
      blnUnsuccessful = rst.[UNSUCCESSFUL_ATTEMPT]
      blnDeactivate = rst.[DEACTIVATE]

     If strCallType = "Call 1" And blnUnsuccessful = True And
Forms!frmPatientAddUpdate!Program = "NON-SCALE MEMBER" Then
            intCounter = intCounter + 1
            If intCounter = 3 Then
                 'update current record set
                 blnDeactivate = True
                 Me![DEACTIVATE] = blnDeactivate
                 rst.Update
                 rst.Close
                 DoCmd.Hourglass False
                 Exit Sub
            End If
      End If
      rst.Update
      rst.MoveNext
Loop

DoCmd.Hourglass False

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From askolits at ot.com  Mon Nov  6 11:32:41 2006
From: askolits at ot.com (John Skolits)
Date: Mon, 6 Nov 2006 12:32:41 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Closing an open file
In-Reply-To: <aea6c4950611060831p1da1dab3v970899060e749f6b@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <006201c701c9$92d93070$7001a8c0@LaptopXP>

When running Access, I create reports every night, but inevitably, some user
has opened the file off the network and never closed it. I can't remove it
with KILL.
Any one have code for closing a file that may be open so I can then delete
it?

John




From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com  Mon Nov  6 12:03:47 2006
From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (JWColby)
Date: Mon, 6 Nov 2006 13:03:47 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] OT: Recommended weekend reading :) - Ten
	incredibly	dangerous software ideas
In-Reply-To: <6A6AA9DF57E4F046BDA1E273BDDB67727DE0D0@corp-es01.fleetpride.com>
Message-ID: <002f01c701cd$e89b8c20$657aa8c0@m6805>

ROTFL.  Yep, everyone on this list just IMAGINES that they do real work. 

John W. Colby
Colby Consulting
www.ColbyConsulting.com

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Hale, Jim
Sent: Monday, November 06, 2006 11:24 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: Re: [AccessD] OT: Recommended weekend reading :) - Ten incredibly
dangerous software ideas

"Today successful software production depends on pattern programming
craftwork
cleverness.    .....Even so, the software industry can't even begin to
produce most of the software
that its customers really want in this way."

Wow. An entire profession dimissed. Kakfa would be proud. Much food for
thought here, much of which is probably correct but not very tasty.
Interesting read, thanks.
Jim Hale


-----Original Message-----
From: Shamil Salakhetdinov [mailto:shamil at users.mns.ru]
Sent: Sunday, November 05, 2006 2:31 AM
To: 'Access-D'
Subject: [AccessD] OT: Recommended weekend reading :) - Ten incredibly
dangerous software ideas


Hi All,

I have just got this link 

http://arxiv.org/ftp/cs/papers/0607/0607022.pdf

via google and I have just finished reading the first page of this document.

It looks interesting and promising to give new insights of software industry
intrinsic troubles. It gives "a systematic critique of the software
industry. This critique is accomplished using classical methods in practical
design science."

This is not an easy stuff to read I must say. Therefore maybe better
postpone its reading for Monday or better Tuesday because Monday is not
usually an easy day by definition :)

Enjoy!

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From rusty.hammond at cpiqpc.com  Mon Nov  6 12:06:49 2006
From: rusty.hammond at cpiqpc.com (rusty.hammond at cpiqpc.com)
Date: Mon, 6 Nov 2006 12:06:49 -0600 
Subject: [AccessD] Closing an open file
Message-ID: <8301C8A868251E4C8ECD3D4FFEA40F8A2584B6A2@cpixchng-1.cpiqpc.net>

John,

Do they need to make changes to the report?  If not I've solved this issue
by 
by setting the report to read only on the network.

Something like the following:

Function ExportRpt(strRptName as String, strFileAndPath as string)

     If Dir(strFileAndPath) <> "" Then
        SetAttr strFileAndPath, vbNormal
        Kill strFileAndPath
     End If

     DoCmd.OutputTo acOutputReport, strRptName, acFormatXLS, strFileAndPath
     SetAttr strFileAndPath, vbReadOnly
End


HTH,

Rusty


-----Original Message-----
From: John Skolits [mailto:askolits at ot.com]
Sent: Monday, November 06, 2006 11:33 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] Closing an open file


When running Access, I create reports every night, but inevitably, some user
has opened the file off the network and never closed it. I can't remove it
with KILL.
Any one have code for closing a file that may be open so I can then delete
it?

John


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From shamil at users.mns.ru  Mon Nov  6 12:15:33 2006
From: shamil at users.mns.ru (Shamil Salakhetdinov)
Date: Mon, 6 Nov 2006 21:15:33 +0300
Subject: [AccessD] OT: Recommended weekend reading :) - Ten
	incredibly	dangerous software ideas
In-Reply-To: <6A6AA9DF57E4F046BDA1E273BDDB67727DE0D0@corp-es01.fleetpride.com>
Message-ID: <000601c701cf$8cd6bd90$6401a8c0@nant>

<<<
Wow. An entire profession dismissed
>>>
Hello Jim,

And computer science academic researches also :)

<<<
For fifty years software science researchers have 
struggled to perfect practical set logics. These
efforts so far have been fruitless and futile.
>>>

And then this passage:

<<<
Differential state dynamics logics are the native 
logics of practical reality. The intrinsic order of
physical reality is solely state dynamical. The 
emergent order of practical reality is reducible to
complex physical differential dynamics. We 
conveniently live in a universe where the differential
meaning of intrinsic order is necessary and sufficient 
for all practical purposes.
>>>

Which I think is beyond me. Could that be they 
somehow consider "Chaos theory" (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chaos_theory) 
as a foundation for the "alternative principled
software production approaches" they mention
here in optimistic final part of their writing?:

<<<
These solutions will require alternative principled 
software production approaches. Such approaches appear
to be possible and practical today. They will likely 
be highly profitable as well.
>>>

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-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Hale, Jim
Sent: Monday, November 06, 2006 7:24 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: Re: [AccessD] OT: Recommended weekend reading :) - Ten incredibly
dangerous software ideas

"Today successful software production depends on pattern programming
craftwork
cleverness.    .....Even so, the software industry can't even begin to
produce most of the software
that its customers really want in this way."

Wow. An entire profession dimissed. Kakfa would be proud. Much food for
thought here, much of which is probably correct but not very tasty.
Interesting read, thanks.
Jim Hale


-----Original Message-----
From: Shamil Salakhetdinov [mailto:shamil at users.mns.ru]
Sent: Sunday, November 05, 2006 2:31 AM
To: 'Access-D'
Subject: [AccessD] OT: Recommended weekend reading :) - Ten incredibly
dangerous software ideas


Hi All,

I have just got this link 

http://arxiv.org/ftp/cs/papers/0607/0607022.pdf

via google and I have just finished reading the first page of this document.

It looks interesting and promising to give new insights of software industry
intrinsic troubles. It gives "a systematic critique of the software
industry. This critique is accomplished using classical methods in practical
design science."

This is not an easy stuff to read I must say. Therefore maybe better
postpone its reading for Monday or better Tuesday because Monday is not
usually an easy day by definition :)

Enjoy!

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From newsgrps at dalyn.co.nz  Mon Nov  6 12:53:26 2006
From: newsgrps at dalyn.co.nz (David Emerson)
Date: Tue, 07 Nov 2006 07:53:26 +1300
Subject: [AccessD] Changing Rowsource for Graph (Sproc source)
Message-ID: <7.0.1.0.0.20061107075110.01a54ab0@dalyn.co.nz>

Just for the record, I couldn't find a solution using parameters in 
the report that worked so I ended up creating a temporary table, and 
running an insert sproc from VBA to fill it with the correct records 
before opening the report.  The report was then based on the temporary table.

David

At 4/11/2006, you wrote:
 >A long shot ideas.
 >
 >Use CHR$(39) instead of the single quote.
 >Not sure the syntax is exactly correct or not but here is what I came up
 >with.
 >
 >"EXEC sprptPipeGateForecastMth " & [Forms]![frmPipeWeldForecast]!cboGateIDNo
 >& ", " & Chr$(39)
 >& basConvertDate(basFirstMthDay([Forms]![frmPipeWeldForecast]![t
 >xtGateMthStartMth])) & Chr$(39) & ", " & Chr$(39) &
 >"basConvertDate(basFirstMthDay([Forms]![frmPipeWeldForecast]![txtGateMthEndM
 >th])) " & Chr$(39)
 >
 >
 >-----Original Message-----
 >From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
 >[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Andy Lacey
 >Sent: Friday, November 03, 2006 3:10 AM
 >To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
 >Subject: Re: [AccessD] Changing Rowsource for Graph (Sproc source)
 >
 >Hi David
 >I seem to recall having the same issue a long while ago. I was using queries
 >and ended up setting the graph's rowsource to a query but modifying the
 >query's SQL before opening the report. Not being an SQL kind of guy I don't
 >know how that translates when you have Sprocs, or if it can at all, but I'm
 >hoping that gives you a steer.
 >
 >-- Andy Lacey
 >http://www.minstersystems.co.uk
 >
 > > -----Original Message-----
 > > From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
 > > [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of
 > > David Emerson
 > > Sent: 03 November 2006 04:28
 > > To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
 > > Subject: [AccessD] Changing Rowsource for Graph (Sproc source)
 > >
 > >
 > > Group,
 > >
 > > Access XP ADP
 > >
 > > I have a report that has a single graph on it (Unbound Object Frame:
 > > Microsoft Graph Chart).  The RowSource property is set to a sproc
 > > which has parameters.
 > >
 > > If I enter the following direct into the RowSource property the
 > > report runs fine:
 > > EXEC sprptPipeGateForecastMth 1085207198, '2006-11-01', '2007-10-01'
 > >
 > > However, I want to set the parameters based on values on a form.  The
 > > help I found on the internet said that the reports OnOpen event was
 > > the place to put it so I added:
 > >
 > > Me!graGraph.RowSource = "EXEC sprptPipeGateForecastMth " &
 > > [Forms]![frmPipeWeldForecast]!cboGateIDNo & ", '" &
 > > basConvertDate(basFirstMthDay([Forms]![frmPipeWeldForecast]![t
 > > xtGateMthStartMth]))
 > > & "', '" &
 > > basConvertDate(basFirstMthDay([Forms]![frmPipeWeldForecast]![t
 > > xtGateMthEndMth]))
 > > & "'"
 > >
 > > When the report is run I get Runtime Error 2455 - You entered an
 > > expression that has an invalid reference to the property
 > > RowSource.  I get the same error if I try in the OnOpen event of the
 > > report (this indicates that the property is not even
 > > available OnOpen):
 > >
 > > MsgBox Reports!rptPipeGateForecastMth!graGraph.RowSource
 > >
 > > I know the property exists because the following works it I put it
 > > into the report detail OnFormat event:
 > > MsgBox Me!graGraph.RowSource
 > >
 > > I have tried setting the property on the detail OnFormat event but an
 > > error comes up saying that you cant set this property after printing
 > > has started.
 > >
 > > Any guidance on what I can try?

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From askolits at ot.com  Mon Nov  6 13:00:34 2006
From: askolits at ot.com (John Skolits)
Date: Mon, 6 Nov 2006 14:00:34 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Closing an open file
In-Reply-To: <8301C8A868251E4C8ECD3D4FFEA40F8A2584B6A2@cpixchng-1.cpiqpc.net>
Message-ID: <007e01c701d5$d9bca830$7001a8c0@LaptopXP>

Hmmm. No, they really don't need to make any changes. That may work. 
So you're saying, if the file is opened as read only, I Can delete it even
if someone has it open?

It would still be nice though to figure out a way to close it if it's open
anyway.
I think that would make things a bit cleaner.




-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of
rusty.hammond at cpiqpc.com
Sent: Monday, November 06, 2006 1:07 PM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Closing an open file

John,

Do they need to make changes to the report?  If not I've solved this issue
by 
by setting the report to read only on the network.

Something like the following:

Function ExportRpt(strRptName as String, strFileAndPath as string)

     If Dir(strFileAndPath) <> "" Then
        SetAttr strFileAndPath, vbNormal
        Kill strFileAndPath
     End If

     DoCmd.OutputTo acOutputReport, strRptName, acFormatXLS, strFileAndPath
     SetAttr strFileAndPath, vbReadOnly
End


HTH,

Rusty


-----Original Message-----
From: John Skolits [mailto:askolits at ot.com]
Sent: Monday, November 06, 2006 11:33 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] Closing an open file


When running Access, I create reports every night, but inevitably, some user
has opened the file off the network and never closed it. I can't remove it
with KILL.
Any one have code for closing a file that may be open so I can then delete
it?

John


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From rusty.hammond at cpiqpc.com  Mon Nov  6 13:20:45 2006
From: rusty.hammond at cpiqpc.com (rusty.hammond at cpiqpc.com)
Date: Mon, 6 Nov 2006 13:20:45 -0600 
Subject: [AccessD] Closing an open file
Message-ID: <8301C8A868251E4C8ECD3D4FFEA40F8A2584B6A5@cpixchng-1.cpiqpc.net>

Yes, at least for an excel file anyway. I'm assuming ms word works the same
way.   When the file is read only, a copy gets loaded into excel without the
file being held open.  It also helps avoid the issue of someone making
changes to the report accidentally.  If they want to save changes, they can
to another filename but the master remains intact.

I agree the ability to close an open file would be nice, but for this
situation the read-only setting works great.



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From: John Skolits [mailto:askolits at ot.com]
Sent: Monday, November 06, 2006 1:01 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Closing an open file


Hmmm. No, they really don't need to make any changes. That may work. 
So you're saying, if the file is opened as read only, I Can delete it even
if someone has it open?

It would still be nice though to figure out a way to close it if it's open
anyway.
I think that would make things a bit cleaner.




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rusty.hammond at cpiqpc.com
Sent: Monday, November 06, 2006 1:07 PM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Closing an open file

John,

Do they need to make changes to the report?  If not I've solved this issue
by 
by setting the report to read only on the network.

Something like the following:

Function ExportRpt(strRptName as String, strFileAndPath as string)

     If Dir(strFileAndPath) <> "" Then
        SetAttr strFileAndPath, vbNormal
        Kill strFileAndPath
     End If

     DoCmd.OutputTo acOutputReport, strRptName, acFormatXLS, strFileAndPath
     SetAttr strFileAndPath, vbReadOnly
End


HTH,

Rusty


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Sent: Monday, November 06, 2006 11:33 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] Closing an open file


When running Access, I create reports every night, but inevitably, some user
has opened the file off the network and never closed it. I can't remove it
with KILL.
Any one have code for closing a file that may be open so I can then delete
it?

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From Lambert.Heenan at AIG.com  Mon Nov  6 16:07:17 2006
From: Lambert.Heenan at AIG.com (Heenan, Lambert)
Date: Mon, 6 Nov 2006 16:07:17 -0600 
Subject: [AccessD] OT: Recommended weekend reading :) - Ten
	incredibly		dangerous software ideas
Message-ID: <E762D59BC2D0694998629044C75FA285036C2E81@xlivmbx26.aig.com>

Hmm,

Sound like that text ("Differential state dynamics ...") could have come
from this wonderful postmodernist critical site

http://www.elsewhere.org/pomo

Every time you visit the site you'll get a page or two of utter drivel that
has a style quite similar to this.

Lambert :-)


And then this passage:

<<<
Differential state dynamics logics are the native 
logics of practical reality. The intrinsic order of
physical reality is solely state dynamical. The 
emergent order of practical reality is reducible to
complex physical differential dynamics. We 
conveniently live in a universe where the differential
meaning of intrinsic order is necessary and sufficient 
for all practical purposes.
>>>

Which I think is beyond me. Could that be they 
somehow consider "Chaos theory" (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chaos_theory) 
as a foundation for the "alternative principled
software production approaches" they mention
here in optimistic final part of their writing?:

<<<
These solutions will require alternative principled 
software production approaches. Such approaches appear
to be possible and practical today. They will likely 
be highly profitable as well.
>>>

--
Shamil
 
-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Hale, Jim
Sent: Monday, November 06, 2006 7:24 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: Re: [AccessD] OT: Recommended weekend reading :) - Ten incredibly
dangerous software ideas

"Today successful software production depends on pattern programming
craftwork
cleverness.    .....Even so, the software industry can't even begin to
produce most of the software
that its customers really want in this way."

Wow. An entire profession dimissed. Kakfa would be proud. Much food for
thought here, much of which is probably correct but not very tasty.
Interesting read, thanks. Jim Hale


-----Original Message-----
From: Shamil Salakhetdinov [mailto:shamil at users.mns.ru]
Sent: Sunday, November 05, 2006 2:31 AM
To: 'Access-D'
Subject: [AccessD] OT: Recommended weekend reading :) - Ten incredibly
dangerous software ideas


Hi All,

I have just got this link 

http://arxiv.org/ftp/cs/papers/0607/0607022.pdf

via google and I have just finished reading the first page of this document.

It looks interesting and promising to give new insights of software industry
intrinsic troubles. It gives "a systematic critique of the software
industry. This critique is accomplished using classical methods in practical
design science."

This is not an easy stuff to read I must say. Therefore maybe better
postpone its reading for Monday or better Tuesday because Monday is not
usually an easy day by definition :)

Enjoy!

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From fahooper at trapo.com  Mon Nov  6 16:17:26 2006
From: fahooper at trapo.com (Fred Hooper)
Date: Mon, 6 Nov 2006 17:17:26 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Closing an open file
In-Reply-To: <006201c701c9$92d93070$7001a8c0@LaptopXP>
Message-ID: <000401c701f1$576436c0$b414c048@fredxp>

If the file has been opened from another computer (i.e. not the one that the
file is on), sysinternals.com has tools for identifying and closing the
link. What you want is PsTools, which is on their File and Disk list. I've
used it in the past for the same purpose.

Fred Hooper

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Sent: Monday, November 06, 2006 12:33 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] Closing an open file

When running Access, I create reports every night, but inevitably, some user
has opened the file off the network and never closed it. I can't remove it
with KILL.
Any one have code for closing a file that may be open so I can then delete
it?

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From michael at ddisolutions.com.au  Mon Nov  6 19:46:14 2006
From: michael at ddisolutions.com.au (Michael Maddison)
Date: Tue, 7 Nov 2006 12:46:14 +1100
Subject: [AccessD] OT: Recommended weekend reading :) -
	Tenincredibly		dangerous software ideas
Message-ID: <59A61174B1F5B54B97FD4ADDE71E7D0116AC8C@ddi-01.DDI.local>


My code already embraces "Chaos theory", been doing it for years.
Keeps the maintenance programmers on their toes ;-)))

cheers

Michael M

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Lambert
Sent: Tuesday, 7 November 2006 9:07 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: Re: [AccessD] OT: Recommended weekend reading :) -
Tenincredibly dangerous software ideas

Hmm,

Sound like that text ("Differential state dynamics ...") could have come
from this wonderful postmodernist critical site

http://www.elsewhere.org/pomo

Every time you visit the site you'll get a page or two of utter drivel
that has a style quite similar to this.

Lambert :-)


And then this passage:

<<<
Differential state dynamics logics are the native logics of practical
reality. The intrinsic order of physical reality is solely state
dynamical. The emergent order of practical reality is reducible to
complex physical differential dynamics. We conveniently live in a
universe where the differential meaning of intrinsic order is necessary
and sufficient for all practical purposes.
>>>

Which I think is beyond me. Could that be they somehow consider "Chaos
theory" (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chaos_theory)
as a foundation for the "alternative principled software production
approaches" they mention here in optimistic final part of their
writing?:

<<<
These solutions will require alternative principled software production
approaches. Such approaches appear to be possible and practical today.
They will likely be highly profitable as well.
>>>

--
Shamil
 
-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Hale, Jim
Sent: Monday, November 06, 2006 7:24 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: Re: [AccessD] OT: Recommended weekend reading :) - Ten
incredibly dangerous software ideas

"Today successful software production depends on pattern programming
craftwork
cleverness.    .....Even so, the software industry can't even begin to
produce most of the software
that its customers really want in this way."

Wow. An entire profession dimissed. Kakfa would be proud. Much food for
thought here, much of which is probably correct but not very tasty.
Interesting read, thanks. Jim Hale


-----Original Message-----
From: Shamil Salakhetdinov [mailto:shamil at users.mns.ru]
Sent: Sunday, November 05, 2006 2:31 AM
To: 'Access-D'
Subject: [AccessD] OT: Recommended weekend reading :) - Ten incredibly
dangerous software ideas


Hi All,

I have just got this link 

http://arxiv.org/ftp/cs/papers/0607/0607022.pdf

via google and I have just finished reading the first page of this
document.

It looks interesting and promising to give new insights of software
industry intrinsic troubles. It gives "a systematic critique of the
software industry. This critique is accomplished using classical methods
in practical design science."

This is not an easy stuff to read I must say. Therefore maybe better
postpone its reading for Monday or better Tuesday because Monday is not
usually an easy day by definition :)

Enjoy!

--
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From Donald.A.McGillivray at sprint.com  Mon Nov  6 22:35:34 2006
From: Donald.A.McGillivray at sprint.com (McGillivray, Don [IT])
Date: Mon, 6 Nov 2006 22:35:34 -0600
Subject: [AccessD] Strategies for populating combo boxes
Message-ID: <EC829B33DF5B5B48A956B7A2E894AA9A0A2A98FE@PLSWB06C.ad.sprint.com>

Wow.  I stepped away for a couple of days and find a full blown discussion in my wake.  

There's only one table and it has about 1.1 million records and 35 columns, only about 10 of which contain data that they want to be able to select from the combos.  I settled on a temp table to hold the desired lists.  Col 1 has the control's name, col 2 the value.  The report selection form sets the rowsource for each combo on open.  Takes only a few seconds.  I added a routine to populate the temp table upon demand whenever the main table has been refreshed (about once per quarter, I'm told.)  So far, there are no more than about 27K rows in the largest combo list.  The others are in the tens or hundreds.  I'm glad to know of the limit, though.  I'll be able to warn of a potential for difficulty there.  

Drew, thanks for the idea about callback functions.  And, JC, thanks for the warnings about comprehending them.  I've looked at them before and didn't quite get it.  I feel better knowing that even you found them head-twisting.  I'll have another go.  It seems like an interesting option.

Thanks to all for the suggestions!

Don

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Sent: Friday, November 03, 2006 3:11 PM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Strategies for populating combo boxes

Oh, well I only use a callback when it's called for. (pun intended).  Most
common functions of a callback are just fine for 99% of what you need a
combo for.  The callback functionality is best for that other 1%.  For
instance, I wrote a utility that let you print or preview reports in a
database.  Using a value list runs into trouble if you have too many
reports, because it can only be ~2048 characters in length.  A callback did
the trick.

Also in tricky situations, like the one described in this thread, callbacks
provide better control of a combo/listbox.

Drew

-----Original Message-----
From: JWColby [mailto:jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com] 
Sent: Friday, November 03, 2006 5:02 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Strategies for populating combo boxes

LOL.  And I did and have, but to actually understand it...  I was trying to
generalize it.  To make a callback where one callback could be used for more
than one object, with more than one datasource.  It got ugly pretty quick.
If you have 500 combos in a big app and wanted to use a callback for many of
them, it gets painful building a new one for each object.

John W. Colby
Colby Consulting
www.ColbyConsulting.com

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[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of DWUTKA at marlow.com
Sent: Friday, November 03, 2006 5:21 PM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Strategies for populating combo boxes

Access 97's help file was a pretty easy read to do it, along with a sample
function.

Drew

-----Original Message-----
From: JWColby [mailto:jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com]
Sent: Friday, November 03, 2006 4:17 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Strategies for populating combo boxes

Cool!  Good to know.  

And are you sure that combos are limited to 65K?  I seem to remember
actually running into the 32K limit, but it was awhile ago so don't sue me
if I'm wrong.  I do know that they slooowed waaaaaay doooowwwwwn at that
size. 

Now you can talk him through a callback function.  There's a subject not for
the faint of heart (at least to truly understand).

John W. Colby
Colby Consulting
www.ColbyConsulting.com

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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of DWUTKA at marlow.com
Sent: Friday, November 03, 2006 4:43 PM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Strategies for populating combo boxes

Combos are limited to 65k. But I just whipped together a quick routine to
add a long integer to a collection.  In debug mode, without external
indication of how fast it was going, I stopped it for after about 20
seconds, and it had millions in the collection already.  Populating the
display with the collections count property ran over 65k in about a minute.
I would say the limit is closer to 2^31.

Drew

-----Original Message-----
From: JWColby [mailto:jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com]
Sent: Friday, November 03, 2006 2:50 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Strategies for populating combo boxes

Drew,

I was going to suggest this, however IIRC (and I was going to test this the
other day), collections are limited to 2^15 items in the collection (~32 k
items).  I seem to remember that he has some large tables. 


John W. Colby
Colby Consulting
www.ColbyConsulting.com

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[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of DWUTKA at marlow.com
Sent: Friday, November 03, 2006 3:25 PM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Strategies for populating combo boxes

Build a collection, pull the records once to fill the collection, then
populate the combos from a Callback function (which would get the data from
the collection, vs. the recordset)

Drew

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From shamil at users.mns.ru  Tue Nov  7 06:19:36 2006
From: shamil at users.mns.ru (Shamil Salakhetdinov)
Date: Tue, 7 Nov 2006 15:19:36 +0300
Subject: [AccessD] Strategies for populating combo boxes
In-Reply-To: <EC829B33DF5B5B48A956B7A2E894AA9A0A2A98FE@PLSWB06C.ad.sprint.com>
Message-ID: <000f01c70266$fdb89280$6401a8c0@nant>

<<<
It seems like an interesting option.
>>>
Don,

Yes, that is an interesting and useful option but be careful with combos
having many entries filled by callback functions while using them in
datasheet/continuous view forms - AFAIKR such combos are refilled every time
they get shown while you're scrolling rows - as a result you get "brain
damaged" datasheet forms reacting very slowly while scrolling them: if you,
e.g. have a combo, which is filled by callback function in half a second
them for a datasheet form with 10 visible rows this combo's filling will
take ~5 seconds when you push [PgDn]/[PgUp]...

Talking about that from memory - last time I used combos with callback
functions in MS Access 97 and I had met this nasty side-effect effect
mentioned above. Did they (MS) fix the issue in MS Access 2000/XP/2003/2007?
- I doubt they did but I can be wrong and therefore my above remark has to
be retested...

Temporary tables refilled on demand are usually satisfactory when used as a
base of dynamic combos. Of course these temp tables should be kept in
dedicated temp databases, which should be automatically compacted once in a
while...

Temp tables or dynamic on demand SQL used for combos' rowsource when combos
get focus of user typed a few chars are not the source of the "brain damaged
datasheet" side effect - the easy guess here is that MS Access "knows" (/get
cached) all the entries of such combos and therefore it (MS Access) is able
to go through all the visible rows and to keep shown/clear combos' values -
in the case of callback functions it (MS Access) have to get combos' entries
for every combo of every (newly) displayed row....

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-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of McGillivray, Don
[IT]
Sent: Tuesday, November 07, 2006 7:36 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Strategies for populating combo boxes

Wow.  I stepped away for a couple of days and find a full blown discussion
in my wake.  

There's only one table and it has about 1.1 million records and 35 columns,
only about 10 of which contain data that they want to be able to select from
the combos.  I settled on a temp table to hold the desired lists.  Col 1 has
the control's name, col 2 the value.  The report selection form sets the
rowsource for each combo on open.  Takes only a few seconds.  I added a
routine to populate the temp table upon demand whenever the main table has
been refreshed (about once per quarter, I'm told.)  So far, there are no
more than about 27K rows in the largest combo list.  The others are in the
tens or hundreds.  I'm glad to know of the limit, though.  I'll be able to
warn of a potential for difficulty there.  

Drew, thanks for the idea about callback functions.  And, JC, thanks for the
warnings about comprehending them.  I've looked at them before and didn't
quite get it.  I feel better knowing that even you found them head-twisting.
I'll have another go.  It seems like an interesting option.

Thanks to all for the suggestions!

Don

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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of DWUTKA at marlow.com
Sent: Friday, November 03, 2006 3:11 PM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Strategies for populating combo boxes

Oh, well I only use a callback when it's called for. (pun intended).  Most
common functions of a callback are just fine for 99% of what you need a
combo for.  The callback functionality is best for that other 1%.  For
instance, I wrote a utility that let you print or preview reports in a
database.  Using a value list runs into trouble if you have too many
reports, because it can only be ~2048 characters in length.  A callback did
the trick.

Also in tricky situations, like the one described in this thread, callbacks
provide better control of a combo/listbox.

Drew

-----Original Message-----
From: JWColby [mailto:jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com] 
Sent: Friday, November 03, 2006 5:02 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Strategies for populating combo boxes

LOL.  And I did and have, but to actually understand it...  I was trying to
generalize it.  To make a callback where one callback could be used for more
than one object, with more than one datasource.  It got ugly pretty quick.
If you have 500 combos in a big app and wanted to use a callback for many of
them, it gets painful building a new one for each object.

John W. Colby
Colby Consulting
www.ColbyConsulting.com

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of DWUTKA at marlow.com
Sent: Friday, November 03, 2006 5:21 PM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Strategies for populating combo boxes

Access 97's help file was a pretty easy read to do it, along with a sample
function.

Drew

-----Original Message-----
From: JWColby [mailto:jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com]
Sent: Friday, November 03, 2006 4:17 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Strategies for populating combo boxes

Cool!  Good to know.  

And are you sure that combos are limited to 65K?  I seem to remember
actually running into the 32K limit, but it was awhile ago so don't sue me
if I'm wrong.  I do know that they slooowed waaaaaay doooowwwwwn at that
size. 

Now you can talk him through a callback function.  There's a subject not for
the faint of heart (at least to truly understand).

John W. Colby
Colby Consulting
www.ColbyConsulting.com

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of DWUTKA at marlow.com
Sent: Friday, November 03, 2006 4:43 PM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Strategies for populating combo boxes

Combos are limited to 65k. But I just whipped together a quick routine to
add a long integer to a collection.  In debug mode, without external
indication of how fast it was going, I stopped it for after about 20
seconds, and it had millions in the collection already.  Populating the
display with the collections count property ran over 65k in about a minute.
I would say the limit is closer to 2^31.

Drew

-----Original Message-----
From: JWColby [mailto:jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com]
Sent: Friday, November 03, 2006 2:50 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Strategies for populating combo boxes

Drew,

I was going to suggest this, however IIRC (and I was going to test this the
other day), collections are limited to 2^15 items in the collection (~32 k
items).  I seem to remember that he has some large tables. 


John W. Colby
Colby Consulting
www.ColbyConsulting.com

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Sent: Friday, November 03, 2006 3:25 PM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Strategies for populating combo boxes

Build a collection, pull the records once to fill the collection, then
populate the combos from a Callback function (which would get the data from
the collection, vs. the recordset)

Drew

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From Gustav at cactus.dk  Tue Nov  7 08:31:53 2006
From: Gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Tue, 07 Nov 2006 15:31:53 +0100
Subject: [AccessD] Strategies for populating combo boxes
Message-ID: <s550a709.041@cactus.dk>

Hi Don and Shamil

One method to speed up a callback function is to use a static array as the source. When initializing, check if the array is empty - if not, fill it. Now, whenever the combo or listbox is requeried and that happens very often, the callback function reads from the static array which is very fast.

Here's an example:

Public Function OrderListPrint( _
  ctl As Control, _
  ID As Long, _
  row As Long, _
  col As Long, _
  Code As Integer)
  
  Static astrPrint(1 To 7) As String
  
  Dim varValue            As Variant
  Dim lngCount            As Long
  
  Select Case Code
    Case acLBInitialize
      If Len(astrPrint(1)) = 0 Then
        ' Fill array.
        For lngCount = 1 To 7
          astrPrint(lngCount) = GetMsg("SaleId90" & lngCount)
        Next
      End If
      varValue = True
    Case acLBOpen
      varValue = Timer
    Case acLBGetRowCount
      varValue = 7    ' Rows.
    Case acLBGetColumnCount
      varValue = 2    ' Columns.
    Case acLBGetColumnWidth
      varValue = -1   ' Column width.
    Case acLBGetValue
      If col = 0 Then
        varValue = row + 1
      ElseIf col = 1 Then
        varValue = astrPrint(row + 1)
      End If
    Case acLBGetFormat     ' Format the data.
      ' varValue = strFormat      
    Case acLBEnd
      ' Do something when form with listbox closes or
      ' listbox is requeried.
  End Select
  
  OrderListPrint = varValue
    
End Function

/gustav

>>> shamil at users.mns.ru 07-11-2006 13:19:36 >>>
<<<
It seems like an interesting option.
>>>
Don,

Yes, that is an interesting and useful option but be careful with combos
having many entries filled by callback functions while using them in
datasheet/continuous view forms - AFAIKR such combos are refilled every time
they get shown while you're scrolling rows - as a result you get "brain
damaged" datasheet forms reacting very slowly while scrolling them: if you,
e.g. have a combo, which is filled by callback function in half a second
them for a datasheet form with 10 visible rows this combo's filling will
take ~5 seconds when you push [PgDn]/[PgUp]...

Talking about that from memory - last time I used combos with callback
functions in MS Access 97 and I had met this nasty side-effect effect
mentioned above. Did they (MS) fix the issue in MS Access 2000/XP/2003/2007?
- I doubt they did but I can be wrong and therefore my above remark has to
be retested...

Temporary tables refilled on demand are usually satisfactory when used as a
base of dynamic combos. Of course these temp tables should be kept in
dedicated temp databases, which should be automatically compacted once in a
while...

Temp tables or dynamic on demand SQL used for combos' rowsource when combos
get focus of user typed a few chars are not the source of the "brain damaged
datasheet" side effect - the easy guess here is that MS Access "knows" (/get
cached) all the entries of such combos and therefore it (MS Access) is able
to go through all the visible rows and to keep shown/clear combos' values -
in the case of callback functions it (MS Access) have to get combos' entries
for every combo of every (newly) displayed row....

--
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-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com 
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of McGillivray, Don
[IT]
Sent: Tuesday, November 07, 2006 7:36 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Strategies for populating combo boxes

Wow.  I stepped away for a couple of days and find a full blown discussion
in my wake.  

There's only one table and it has about 1.1 million records and 35 columns,
only about 10 of which contain data that they want to be able to select from
the combos.  I settled on a temp table to hold the desired lists.  Col 1 has
the control's name, col 2 the value.  The report selection form sets the
rowsource for each combo on open.  Takes only a few seconds.  I added a
routine to populate the temp table upon demand whenever the main table has
been refreshed (about once per quarter, I'm told.)  So far, there are no
more than about 27K rows in the largest combo list.  The others are in the
tens or hundreds.  I'm glad to know of the limit, though.  I'll be able to
warn of a potential for difficulty there.  

Drew, thanks for the idea about callback functions.  And, JC, thanks for the
warnings about comprehending them.  I've looked at them before and didn't
quite get it.  I feel better knowing that even you found them head-twisting.
I'll have another go.  It seems like an interesting option.

Thanks to all for the suggestions!

Don

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com 
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of DWUTKA at marlow.com 
Sent: Friday, November 03, 2006 3:11 PM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com 
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Strategies for populating combo boxes

Oh, well I only use a callback when it's called for. (pun intended).  Most
common functions of a callback are just fine for 99% of what you need a
combo for.  The callback functionality is best for that other 1%.  For
instance, I wrote a utility that let you print or preview reports in a
database.  Using a value list runs into trouble if you have too many
reports, because it can only be ~2048 characters in length.  A callback did
the trick.

Also in tricky situations, like the one described in this thread, callbacks
provide better control of a combo/listbox.

Drew


From DWUTKA at marlow.com  Tue Nov  7 09:15:27 2006
From: DWUTKA at marlow.com (DWUTKA at marlow.com)
Date: Tue, 7 Nov 2006 09:15:27 -0600 
Subject: [AccessD] Access to web
Message-ID: <17724746D360394AA3BFE5B8D40A9C1B0139B186@MARLOW_MAIN2.marlow.com>

I've always debated on that one.  If the Access .mdb is located on the
webserver, but in a non-web location (off the folders/files viewable from
the web), I don't see how Access is any more or less secure then a SQL
server.

Drew

-----Original Message-----
From: artful at rogers.com [mailto:artful at rogers.com] 
Sent: Friday, November 03, 2006 6:36 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Access to web

Secure, IMO, means that you abandon Access as a back-end and focus on SQL
Server or some other server database (MySQL, Oracle, DB/2, PostGres, Sybase,
etc.). The security offered in such a platform is superior to that offered
by Access. 

Typically, you create roles (groups of equivalent users), and then assign
users to roles. You also prevent everyone from directly accessing tables,
and allow them access to views, stored procedures and UDFs. You build up a
hierarchy of roles, additively (i.e. managers can do everything everyone
beneath them can do, but also have rights to do additional thngs such as run
reports of salaries.

For the generic web user you create a role WebUser. For employees, you
create several roles corresponding to the hierarchy of responsibility. The
CEO has, in theory, access to everything, but in practice I am god, not the
CEO, because I don't trust him to play safe.

So in a nutshell, if you want to move into web-dev, think SQL Server on the
Back End and then choose any Front End that appeals to you (.NET, PHP, Ajax,
DreamWeaver, whatever). In all cases the essential thing is to avoid dynamic
SQL at all costs, and instead think everything out in stored procedures,
views and UDFs.

HTH,
Arthur

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To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Sent: Friday, November 3, 2006 11:59:24 AM
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Access to web

Hello All,

I would consider myself quite competent in SQL, VBA, and Access.  With that 
in mind...I would like to learn to create secure web based apps(convert some

of my old Access dbs to web).

I need some direction as to what I should start learning/researching to 
accomplish this.  Any ideas, suggestions, or recommendations would be 
greatly appreciated.  I'm just not sure where to begin.

Thanks,

Mark A. Matte

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From DWUTKA at marlow.com  Tue Nov  7 09:36:56 2006
From: DWUTKA at marlow.com (DWUTKA at marlow.com)
Date: Tue, 7 Nov 2006 09:36:56 -0600 
Subject: [AccessD] Closing an open file
Message-ID: <17724746D360394AA3BFE5B8D40A9C1B0139B1A5@MARLOW_MAIN2.marlow.com>

The only two ways to do this would be to have a program running on all of
your client machines, which would close the files at a certain time (or
close the files from some type of other prompting (ie, network comms,
inactivity, etc.).  Or, you will have to have admin rights on a server to
force a file closed.  How to do it programmatically, not entirely sure, but
I would start looking into the Window Server OS resource kits, I'd be
surprised if it was something other then a simple shell command (with the
right resource kit util)

Drew

-----Original Message-----
From: rusty.hammond at cpiqpc.com [mailto:rusty.hammond at cpiqpc.com] 
Sent: Monday, November 06, 2006 1:21 PM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Closing an open file

Yes, at least for an excel file anyway. I'm assuming ms word works the same
way.   When the file is read only, a copy gets loaded into excel without the
file being held open.  It also helps avoid the issue of someone making
changes to the report accidentally.  If they want to save changes, they can
to another filename but the master remains intact.

I agree the ability to close an open file would be nice, but for this
situation the read-only setting works great.



-----Original Message-----
From: John Skolits [mailto:askolits at ot.com]
Sent: Monday, November 06, 2006 1:01 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Closing an open file


Hmmm. No, they really don't need to make any changes. That may work. 
So you're saying, if the file is opened as read only, I Can delete it even
if someone has it open?

It would still be nice though to figure out a way to close it if it's open
anyway.
I think that would make things a bit cleaner.




-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of
rusty.hammond at cpiqpc.com
Sent: Monday, November 06, 2006 1:07 PM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Closing an open file

John,

Do they need to make changes to the report?  If not I've solved this issue
by 
by setting the report to read only on the network.

Something like the following:

Function ExportRpt(strRptName as String, strFileAndPath as string)

     If Dir(strFileAndPath) <> "" Then
        SetAttr strFileAndPath, vbNormal
        Kill strFileAndPath
     End If

     DoCmd.OutputTo acOutputReport, strRptName, acFormatXLS, strFileAndPath
     SetAttr strFileAndPath, vbReadOnly
End


HTH,

Rusty


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From: John Skolits [mailto:askolits at ot.com]
Sent: Monday, November 06, 2006 11:33 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] Closing an open file


When running Access, I create reports every night, but inevitably, some user
has opened the file off the network and never closed it. I can't remove it
with KILL.
Any one have code for closing a file that may be open so I can then delete
it?

John


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From DWUTKA at marlow.com  Tue Nov  7 09:42:06 2006
From: DWUTKA at marlow.com (DWUTKA at marlow.com)
Date: Tue, 7 Nov 2006 09:42:06 -0600 
Subject: [AccessD] Strategies for populating combo boxes
Message-ID: <17724746D360394AA3BFE5B8D40A9C1B0139B1AB@MARLOW_MAIN2.marlow.com>

ALL combos/listboxes are doing the same thing as one populated by a callback
function.  It's just simply how a listbox/combobox 'window' works.  

All of the calls to a callback function are just simply being handled by an
internal callback when one of the other three methods are used (recordsoure,
fieldlist, value list).  

If you are experiencing slowdown in your callback function, you need to look
at when your callback function is doing.  If you are requerying at ANY point
other then the initialization, then there is a problem, because that takes
time.

Drew

-----Original Message-----
From: Shamil Salakhetdinov [mailto:shamil at users.mns.ru] 
Sent: Tuesday, November 07, 2006 6:20 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Strategies for populating combo boxes

<<<
It seems like an interesting option.
>>>
Don,

Yes, that is an interesting and useful option but be careful with combos
having many entries filled by callback functions while using them in
datasheet/continuous view forms - AFAIKR such combos are refilled every time
they get shown while you're scrolling rows - as a result you get "brain
damaged" datasheet forms reacting very slowly while scrolling them: if you,
e.g. have a combo, which is filled by callback function in half a second
them for a datasheet form with 10 visible rows this combo's filling will
take ~5 seconds when you push [PgDn]/[PgUp]...

Talking about that from memory - last time I used combos with callback
functions in MS Access 97 and I had met this nasty side-effect effect
mentioned above. Did they (MS) fix the issue in MS Access 2000/XP/2003/2007?
- I doubt they did but I can be wrong and therefore my above remark has to
be retested...

Temporary tables refilled on demand are usually satisfactory when used as a
base of dynamic combos. Of course these temp tables should be kept in
dedicated temp databases, which should be automatically compacted once in a
while...

Temp tables or dynamic on demand SQL used for combos' rowsource when combos
get focus of user typed a few chars are not the source of the "brain damaged
datasheet" side effect - the easy guess here is that MS Access "knows" (/get
cached) all the entries of such combos and therefore it (MS Access) is able
to go through all the visible rows and to keep shown/clear combos' values -
in the case of callback functions it (MS Access) have to get combos' entries
for every combo of every (newly) displayed row....

--
Shamil
 

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of McGillivray, Don
[IT]
Sent: Tuesday, November 07, 2006 7:36 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Strategies for populating combo boxes

Wow.  I stepped away for a couple of days and find a full blown discussion
in my wake.  

There's only one table and it has about 1.1 million records and 35 columns,
only about 10 of which contain data that they want to be able to select from
the combos.  I settled on a temp table to hold the desired lists.  Col 1 has
the control's name, col 2 the value.  The report selection form sets the
rowsource for each combo on open.  Takes only a few seconds.  I added a
routine to populate the temp table upon demand whenever the main table has
been refreshed (about once per quarter, I'm told.)  So far, there are no
more than about 27K rows in the largest combo list.  The others are in the
tens or hundreds.  I'm glad to know of the limit, though.  I'll be able to
warn of a potential for difficulty there.  

Drew, thanks for the idea about callback functions.  And, JC, thanks for the
warnings about comprehending them.  I've looked at them before and didn't
quite get it.  I feel better knowing that even you found them head-twisting.
I'll have another go.  It seems like an interesting option.

Thanks to all for the suggestions!

Don

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of DWUTKA at marlow.com
Sent: Friday, November 03, 2006 3:11 PM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Strategies for populating combo boxes

Oh, well I only use a callback when it's called for. (pun intended).  Most
common functions of a callback are just fine for 99% of what you need a
combo for.  The callback functionality is best for that other 1%.  For
instance, I wrote a utility that let you print or preview reports in a
database.  Using a value list runs into trouble if you have too many
reports, because it can only be ~2048 characters in length.  A callback did
the trick.

Also in tricky situations, like the one described in this thread, callbacks
provide better control of a combo/listbox.

Drew

-----Original Message-----
From: JWColby [mailto:jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com] 
Sent: Friday, November 03, 2006 5:02 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Strategies for populating combo boxes

LOL.  And I did and have, but to actually understand it...  I was trying to
generalize it.  To make a callback where one callback could be used for more
than one object, with more than one datasource.  It got ugly pretty quick.
If you have 500 combos in a big app and wanted to use a callback for many of
them, it gets painful building a new one for each object.

John W. Colby
Colby Consulting
www.ColbyConsulting.com

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of DWUTKA at marlow.com
Sent: Friday, November 03, 2006 5:21 PM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Strategies for populating combo boxes

Access 97's help file was a pretty easy read to do it, along with a sample
function.

Drew

-----Original Message-----
From: JWColby [mailto:jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com]
Sent: Friday, November 03, 2006 4:17 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Strategies for populating combo boxes

Cool!  Good to know.  

And are you sure that combos are limited to 65K?  I seem to remember
actually running into the 32K limit, but it was awhile ago so don't sue me
if I'm wrong.  I do know that they slooowed waaaaaay doooowwwwwn at that
size. 

Now you can talk him through a callback function.  There's a subject not for
the faint of heart (at least to truly understand).

John W. Colby
Colby Consulting
www.ColbyConsulting.com

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of DWUTKA at marlow.com
Sent: Friday, November 03, 2006 4:43 PM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Strategies for populating combo boxes

Combos are limited to 65k. But I just whipped together a quick routine to
add a long integer to a collection.  In debug mode, without external
indication of how fast it was going, I stopped it for after about 20
seconds, and it had millions in the collection already.  Populating the
display with the collections count property ran over 65k in about a minute.
I would say the limit is closer to 2^31.

Drew

-----Original Message-----
From: JWColby [mailto:jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com]
Sent: Friday, November 03, 2006 2:50 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Strategies for populating combo boxes

Drew,

I was going to suggest this, however IIRC (and I was going to test this the
other day), collections are limited to 2^15 items in the collection (~32 k
items).  I seem to remember that he has some large tables. 


John W. Colby
Colby Consulting
www.ColbyConsulting.com

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of DWUTKA at marlow.com
Sent: Friday, November 03, 2006 3:25 PM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Strategies for populating combo boxes

Build a collection, pull the records once to fill the collection, then
populate the combos from a Callback function (which would get the data from
the collection, vs. the recordset)

Drew

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From askolits at ot.com  Tue Nov  7 10:52:27 2006
From: askolits at ot.com (John Skolits)
Date: Tue, 7 Nov 2006 11:52:27 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Closing an open file
In-Reply-To: <17724746D360394AA3BFE5B8D40A9C1B0139B1A5@MARLOW_MAIN2.marlow.com>
Message-ID: <01a001c7028d$1e85adb0$7001a8c0@LaptopXP>

Drew,

I'm looking at sysinternals.com like Fred Hooper suggested. Still trying to
figure out how to use it, especially through VBA. 

If it doesn't work out, I'll go down your suggested road.

John

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Sent: Tuesday, November 07, 2006 10:37 AM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Closing an open file

The only two ways to do this would be to have a program running on all of
your client machines, which would close the files at a certain time (or
close the files from some type of other prompting (ie, network comms,
inactivity, etc.).  Or, you will have to have admin rights on a server to
force a file closed.  How to do it programmatically, not entirely sure, but
I would start looking into the Window Server OS resource kits, I'd be
surprised if it was something other then a simple shell command (with the
right resource kit util)

Drew

-----Original Message-----
From: rusty.hammond at cpiqpc.com [mailto:rusty.hammond at cpiqpc.com] 
Sent: Monday, November 06, 2006 1:21 PM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Closing an open file

Yes, at least for an excel file anyway. I'm assuming ms word works the same
way.   When the file is read only, a copy gets loaded into excel without the
file being held open.  It also helps avoid the issue of someone making
changes to the report accidentally.  If they want to save changes, they can
to another filename but the master remains intact.

I agree the ability to close an open file would be nice, but for this
situation the read-only setting works great.



-----Original Message-----
From: John Skolits [mailto:askolits at ot.com]
Sent: Monday, November 06, 2006 1:01 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Closing an open file


Hmmm. No, they really don't need to make any changes. That may work. 
So you're saying, if the file is opened as read only, I Can delete it even
if someone has it open?

It would still be nice though to figure out a way to close it if it's open
anyway.
I think that would make things a bit cleaner.




-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of
rusty.hammond at cpiqpc.com
Sent: Monday, November 06, 2006 1:07 PM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Closing an open file

John,

Do they need to make changes to the report?  If not I've solved this issue
by 
by setting the report to read only on the network.

Something like the following:

Function ExportRpt(strRptName as String, strFileAndPath as string)

     If Dir(strFileAndPath) <> "" Then
        SetAttr strFileAndPath, vbNormal
        Kill strFileAndPath
     End If

     DoCmd.OutputTo acOutputReport, strRptName, acFormatXLS, strFileAndPath
     SetAttr strFileAndPath, vbReadOnly
End


HTH,

Rusty


-----Original Message-----
From: John Skolits [mailto:askolits at ot.com]
Sent: Monday, November 06, 2006 11:33 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] Closing an open file


When running Access, I create reports every night, but inevitably, some user
has opened the file off the network and never closed it. I can't remove it
with KILL.
Any one have code for closing a file that may be open so I can then delete
it?

John


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From martyconnelly at shaw.ca  Tue Nov  7 11:00:59 2006
From: martyconnelly at shaw.ca (MartyConnelly)
Date: Tue, 07 Nov 2006 09:00:59 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] Closing an open file
In-Reply-To: <006201c701c9$92d93070$7001a8c0@LaptopXP>
References: <006201c701c9$92d93070$7001a8c0@LaptopXP>
Message-ID: <4550BBCB.9080309@shaw.ca>

If you don't care about removing the report, why not just time stamp the 
report file
name, it also gives a unique name.
"C:\temp\MyBigReport - " & Format(Now, "yyyymmddhhmmss") & ".rpt"

John Skolits wrote:

>When running Access, I create reports every night, but inevitably, some user
>has opened the file off the network and never closed it. I can't remove it
>with KILL.
>Any one have code for closing a file that may be open so I can then delete
>it?
>
>John
>
>
>  
>

-- 
Marty Connelly
Victoria, B.C.
Canada



From askolits at ot.com  Tue Nov  7 11:14:54 2006
From: askolits at ot.com (John Skolits)
Date: Tue, 7 Nov 2006 12:14:54 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Closing an open file
In-Reply-To: <4550BBCB.9080309@shaw.ca>
Message-ID: <01aa01c70290$419a83e0$7001a8c0@LaptopXP>

Well, it's a bit complicated. I had to use macros instead of code and did
some OutputTo calls. I can't easily change the names. Plus, it may cause
some confusion with the illiterate computer users if they start seeing all
these reports. I know what you're thinking, but I pushed them way ahead so
far in computer literacy but they still have a ways to go.
Eventually, I'll be able to do it, but not now.

John


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of MartyConnelly
Sent: Tuesday, November 07, 2006 12:01 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Closing an open file

If you don't care about removing the report, why not just time stamp the 
report file
name, it also gives a unique name.
"C:\temp\MyBigReport - " & Format(Now, "yyyymmddhhmmss") & ".rpt"

John Skolits wrote:

>When running Access, I create reports every night, but inevitably, some
user
>has opened the file off the network and never closed it. I can't remove it
>with KILL.
>Any one have code for closing a file that may be open so I can then delete
>it?
>
>John
>
>
>  
>

-- 
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Victoria, B.C.
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From shamil at users.mns.ru  Tue Nov  7 12:29:37 2006
From: shamil at users.mns.ru (Shamil Salakhetdinov)
Date: Tue, 7 Nov 2006 21:29:37 +0300
Subject: [AccessD] Strategies for populating combo boxes
In-Reply-To: <17724746D360394AA3BFE5B8D40A9C1B0139B1AB@MARLOW_MAIN2.marlow.com>
Message-ID: <000301c7029a$aec0ab70$6401a8c0@nant>

Drew and Gustav,

I will try to "cook" a sample where static array caching can't be used and
then a combo could result in datasheet form scrolling slowdown...

If I will not come with such a sample here in a month (no time currently to
trick around it) then the case I mentioned was the case of the bad callback
function design.

BTW, in MS Access online help is written: "The number of times your
user-defined function is called for acLBGetValue and acLBGetFormat to get
list entries and to format strings varies depending on the number of
entries, the user's scrolling, and other factors." 

"The user's scrolling" they say - be aware of that when using callback
functions - this is what I meant first of all...

--
Shamil 

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of DWUTKA at marlow.com
Sent: Tuesday, November 07, 2006 6:42 PM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Strategies for populating combo boxes

ALL combos/listboxes are doing the same thing as one populated by a callback
function.  It's just simply how a listbox/combobox 'window' works.  

All of the calls to a callback function are just simply being handled by an
internal callback when one of the other three methods are used (recordsoure,
fieldlist, value list).  

If you are experiencing slowdown in your callback function, you need to look
at when your callback function is doing.  If you are requerying at ANY point
other then the initialization, then there is a problem, because that takes
time.

Drew

-----Original Message-----
From: Shamil Salakhetdinov [mailto:shamil at users.mns.ru] 
Sent: Tuesday, November 07, 2006 6:20 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Strategies for populating combo boxes

<<<
It seems like an interesting option.
>>>
Don,

Yes, that is an interesting and useful option but be careful with combos
having many entries filled by callback functions while using them in
datasheet/continuous view forms - AFAIKR such combos are refilled every time
they get shown while you're scrolling rows - as a result you get "brain
damaged" datasheet forms reacting very slowly while scrolling them: if you,
e.g. have a combo, which is filled by callback function in half a second
them for a datasheet form with 10 visible rows this combo's filling will
take ~5 seconds when you push [PgDn]/[PgUp]...

Talking about that from memory - last time I used combos with callback
functions in MS Access 97 and I had met this nasty side-effect effect
mentioned above. Did they (MS) fix the issue in MS Access 2000/XP/2003/2007?
- I doubt they did but I can be wrong and therefore my above remark has to
be retested...

Temporary tables refilled on demand are usually satisfactory when used as a
base of dynamic combos. Of course these temp tables should be kept in
dedicated temp databases, which should be automatically compacted once in a
while...

Temp tables or dynamic on demand SQL used for combos' rowsource when combos
get focus of user typed a few chars are not the source of the "brain damaged
datasheet" side effect - the easy guess here is that MS Access "knows" (/get
cached) all the entries of such combos and therefore it (MS Access) is able
to go through all the visible rows and to keep shown/clear combos' values -
in the case of callback functions it (MS Access) have to get combos' entries
for every combo of every (newly) displayed row....

--
Shamil
 

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of McGillivray, Don
[IT]
Sent: Tuesday, November 07, 2006 7:36 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Strategies for populating combo boxes

Wow.  I stepped away for a couple of days and find a full blown discussion
in my wake.  

There's only one table and it has about 1.1 million records and 35 columns,
only about 10 of which contain data that they want to be able to select from
the combos.  I settled on a temp table to hold the desired lists.  Col 1 has
the control's name, col 2 the value.  The report selection form sets the
rowsource for each combo on open.  Takes only a few seconds.  I added a
routine to populate the temp table upon demand whenever the main table has
been refreshed (about once per quarter, I'm told.)  So far, there are no
more than about 27K rows in the largest combo list.  The others are in the
tens or hundreds.  I'm glad to know of the limit, though.  I'll be able to
warn of a potential for difficulty there.  

Drew, thanks for the idea about callback functions.  And, JC, thanks for the
warnings about comprehending them.  I've looked at them before and didn't
quite get it.  I feel better knowing that even you found them head-twisting.
I'll have another go.  It seems like an interesting option.

Thanks to all for the suggestions!

Don

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of DWUTKA at marlow.com
Sent: Friday, November 03, 2006 3:11 PM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Strategies for populating combo boxes

Oh, well I only use a callback when it's called for. (pun intended).  Most
common functions of a callback are just fine for 99% of what you need a
combo for.  The callback functionality is best for that other 1%.  For
instance, I wrote a utility that let you print or preview reports in a
database.  Using a value list runs into trouble if you have too many
reports, because it can only be ~2048 characters in length.  A callback did
the trick.

Also in tricky situations, like the one described in this thread, callbacks
provide better control of a combo/listbox.

Drew

-----Original Message-----
From: JWColby [mailto:jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com] 
Sent: Friday, November 03, 2006 5:02 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Strategies for populating combo boxes

LOL.  And I did and have, but to actually understand it...  I was trying to
generalize it.  To make a callback where one callback could be used for more
than one object, with more than one datasource.  It got ugly pretty quick.
If you have 500 combos in a big app and wanted to use a callback for many of
them, it gets painful building a new one for each object.

John W. Colby
Colby Consulting
www.ColbyConsulting.com

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of DWUTKA at marlow.com
Sent: Friday, November 03, 2006 5:21 PM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Strategies for populating combo boxes

Access 97's help file was a pretty easy read to do it, along with a sample
function.

Drew

-----Original Message-----
From: JWColby [mailto:jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com]
Sent: Friday, November 03, 2006 4:17 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Strategies for populating combo boxes

Cool!  Good to know.  

And are you sure that combos are limited to 65K?  I seem to remember
actually running into the 32K limit, but it was awhile ago so don't sue me
if I'm wrong.  I do know that they slooowed waaaaaay doooowwwwwn at that
size. 

Now you can talk him through a callback function.  There's a subject not for
the faint of heart (at least to truly understand).

John W. Colby
Colby Consulting
www.ColbyConsulting.com

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of DWUTKA at marlow.com
Sent: Friday, November 03, 2006 4:43 PM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Strategies for populating combo boxes

Combos are limited to 65k. But I just whipped together a quick routine to
add a long integer to a collection.  In debug mode, without external
indication of how fast it was going, I stopped it for after about 20
seconds, and it had millions in the collection already.  Populating the
display with the collections count property ran over 65k in about a minute.
I would say the limit is closer to 2^31.

Drew

-----Original Message-----
From: JWColby [mailto:jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com]
Sent: Friday, November 03, 2006 2:50 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Strategies for populating combo boxes

Drew,

I was going to suggest this, however IIRC (and I was going to test this the
other day), collections are limited to 2^15 items in the collection (~32 k
items).  I seem to remember that he has some large tables. 


John W. Colby
Colby Consulting
www.ColbyConsulting.com

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of DWUTKA at marlow.com
Sent: Friday, November 03, 2006 3:25 PM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Strategies for populating combo boxes

Build a collection, pull the records once to fill the collection, then
populate the combos from a Callback function (which would get the data from
the collection, vs. the recordset)

Drew

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From gregsmith at starband.net  Tue Nov  7 13:21:25 2006
From: gregsmith at starband.net (Greg Smith)
Date: Tue, 7 Nov 2006 13:21:25 -0600
Subject: [AccessD] XML Import into Access 2003 (2nd retry w/o html)
In-Reply-To: <BAY127-F35BB73EB5B91751EDEDDD0D2FE0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <000001c702a1$eeef5140$130a000a@DadsDell>

Thanks for the response and help Marty.  Sorry for my slow thanks, but I've
also been working with the people who provide the XML file to me to see if
they can come up with a transform I could use for importing the data into
Access.  

Greg


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of MartyConnelly
Sent: Friday, November 03, 2006 7:25 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] XML Import into Access 2003 (2nd retry w/o html)

Here is another VB.Net  variation that might help  How Do I...Read XML from
an XmlDataDocument?
http://samples.gotdotnet.com/quickstart/howto/doc/Xml/StreamXmlDocument.aspx

I think by rewriting the FormatXML function you could generate Entity only
XML file


Greg Smith wrote:

> (This is a second resend - my first one was html to illustrate the 
>color layout for ease of reading the XML, but it turns out to be too 
>large, so here it is in text only format)
>
>Hi everyone!  It's been a while, or seems like it anyway!  Hope 
>everyone is well...<snip>



From DWUTKA at marlow.com  Tue Nov  7 16:28:18 2006
From: DWUTKA at marlow.com (DWUTKA at marlow.com)
Date: Tue, 7 Nov 2006 16:28:18 -0600 
Subject: [AccessD] Strategies for populating combo boxes
Message-ID: <17724746D360394AA3BFE5B8D40A9C1B0139B2BF@MARLOW_MAIN2.marlow.com>

I completely understand how often the callback function is called, however,
what I was explaining is that the process is identical to how the other
methods work, internally.

Take for example the Window APIs and their callbacks.  Enum windows will go
through all of the windows on your machine, and you can enumerate child
windows too.  I have a little utility that I wrote (to move windows that
have 'lost' their coordinates, and appear off the screen) that enumerates
ALL windows on your machine, including child windows.  It takes a split
second to run, and a lot of the processing time is in building the treeview.

Sometimes you have to take the hit with performance though.  The advantage
of a callback function is that you can present data on the fly, so if you
need to process something when it's is asking for values you can, it's just
going to be slower then a static array (or a collection, or another method
for a data source).

Drew

-----Original Message-----
From: Shamil Salakhetdinov [mailto:shamil at users.mns.ru] 
Sent: Tuesday, November 07, 2006 12:30 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Strategies for populating combo boxes

Drew and Gustav,

I will try to "cook" a sample where static array caching can't be used and
then a combo could result in datasheet form scrolling slowdown...

If I will not come with such a sample here in a month (no time currently to
trick around it) then the case I mentioned was the case of the bad callback
function design.

BTW, in MS Access online help is written: "The number of times your
user-defined function is called for acLBGetValue and acLBGetFormat to get
list entries and to format strings varies depending on the number of
entries, the user's scrolling, and other factors." 

"The user's scrolling" they say - be aware of that when using callback
functions - this is what I meant first of all...

--
Shamil 

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of DWUTKA at marlow.com
Sent: Tuesday, November 07, 2006 6:42 PM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Strategies for populating combo boxes

ALL combos/listboxes are doing the same thing as one populated by a callback
function.  It's just simply how a listbox/combobox 'window' works.  

All of the calls to a callback function are just simply being handled by an
internal callback when one of the other three methods are used (recordsoure,
fieldlist, value list).  

If you are experiencing slowdown in your callback function, you need to look
at when your callback function is doing.  If you are requerying at ANY point
other then the initialization, then there is a problem, because that takes
time.

Drew

-----Original Message-----
From: Shamil Salakhetdinov [mailto:shamil at users.mns.ru] 
Sent: Tuesday, November 07, 2006 6:20 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Strategies for populating combo boxes

<<<
It seems like an interesting option.
>>>
Don,

Yes, that is an interesting and useful option but be careful with combos
having many entries filled by callback functions while using them in
datasheet/continuous view forms - AFAIKR such combos are refilled every time
they get shown while you're scrolling rows - as a result you get "brain
damaged" datasheet forms reacting very slowly while scrolling them: if you,
e.g. have a combo, which is filled by callback function in half a second
them for a datasheet form with 10 visible rows this combo's filling will
take ~5 seconds when you push [PgDn]/[PgUp]...

Talking about that from memory - last time I used combos with callback
functions in MS Access 97 and I had met this nasty side-effect effect
mentioned above. Did they (MS) fix the issue in MS Access 2000/XP/2003/2007?
- I doubt they did but I can be wrong and therefore my above remark has to
be retested...

Temporary tables refilled on demand are usually satisfactory when used as a
base of dynamic combos. Of course these temp tables should be kept in
dedicated temp databases, which should be automatically compacted once in a
while...

Temp tables or dynamic on demand SQL used for combos' rowsource when combos
get focus of user typed a few chars are not the source of the "brain damaged
datasheet" side effect - the easy guess here is that MS Access "knows" (/get
cached) all the entries of such combos and therefore it (MS Access) is able
to go through all the visible rows and to keep shown/clear combos' values -
in the case of callback functions it (MS Access) have to get combos' entries
for every combo of every (newly) displayed row....

--
Shamil
 

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of McGillivray, Don
[IT]
Sent: Tuesday, November 07, 2006 7:36 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Strategies for populating combo boxes

Wow.  I stepped away for a couple of days and find a full blown discussion
in my wake.  

There's only one table and it has about 1.1 million records and 35 columns,
only about 10 of which contain data that they want to be able to select from
the combos.  I settled on a temp table to hold the desired lists.  Col 1 has
the control's name, col 2 the value.  The report selection form sets the
rowsource for each combo on open.  Takes only a few seconds.  I added a
routine to populate the temp table upon demand whenever the main table has
been refreshed (about once per quarter, I'm told.)  So far, there are no
more than about 27K rows in the largest combo list.  The others are in the
tens or hundreds.  I'm glad to know of the limit, though.  I'll be able to
warn of a potential for difficulty there.  

Drew, thanks for the idea about callback functions.  And, JC, thanks for the
warnings about comprehending them.  I've looked at them before and didn't
quite get it.  I feel better knowing that even you found them head-twisting.
I'll have another go.  It seems like an interesting option.

Thanks to all for the suggestions!

Don

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of DWUTKA at marlow.com
Sent: Friday, November 03, 2006 3:11 PM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Strategies for populating combo boxes

Oh, well I only use a callback when it's called for. (pun intended).  Most
common functions of a callback are just fine for 99% of what you need a
combo for.  The callback functionality is best for that other 1%.  For
instance, I wrote a utility that let you print or preview reports in a
database.  Using a value list runs into trouble if you have too many
reports, because it can only be ~2048 characters in length.  A callback did
the trick.

Also in tricky situations, like the one described in this thread, callbacks
provide better control of a combo/listbox.

Drew

-----Original Message-----
From: JWColby [mailto:jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com] 
Sent: Friday, November 03, 2006 5:02 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Strategies for populating combo boxes

LOL.  And I did and have, but to actually understand it...  I was trying to
generalize it.  To make a callback where one callback could be used for more
than one object, with more than one datasource.  It got ugly pretty quick.
If you have 500 combos in a big app and wanted to use a callback for many of
them, it gets painful building a new one for each object.

John W. Colby
Colby Consulting
www.ColbyConsulting.com

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of DWUTKA at marlow.com
Sent: Friday, November 03, 2006 5:21 PM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Strategies for populating combo boxes

Access 97's help file was a pretty easy read to do it, along with a sample
function.

Drew

-----Original Message-----
From: JWColby [mailto:jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com]
Sent: Friday, November 03, 2006 4:17 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Strategies for populating combo boxes

Cool!  Good to know.  

And are you sure that combos are limited to 65K?  I seem to remember
actually running into the 32K limit, but it was awhile ago so don't sue me
if I'm wrong.  I do know that they slooowed waaaaaay doooowwwwwn at that
size. 

Now you can talk him through a callback function.  There's a subject not for
the faint of heart (at least to truly understand).

John W. Colby
Colby Consulting
www.ColbyConsulting.com

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of DWUTKA at marlow.com
Sent: Friday, November 03, 2006 4:43 PM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Strategies for populating combo boxes

Combos are limited to 65k. But I just whipped together a quick routine to
add a long integer to a collection.  In debug mode, without external
indication of how fast it was going, I stopped it for after about 20
seconds, and it had millions in the collection already.  Populating the
display with the collections count property ran over 65k in about a minute.
I would say the limit is closer to 2^31.

Drew

-----Original Message-----
From: JWColby [mailto:jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com]
Sent: Friday, November 03, 2006 2:50 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Strategies for populating combo boxes

Drew,

I was going to suggest this, however IIRC (and I was going to test this the
other day), collections are limited to 2^15 items in the collection (~32 k
items).  I seem to remember that he has some large tables. 


John W. Colby
Colby Consulting
www.ColbyConsulting.com

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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of DWUTKA at marlow.com
Sent: Friday, November 03, 2006 3:25 PM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Strategies for populating combo boxes

Build a collection, pull the records once to fill the collection, then
populate the combos from a Callback function (which would get the data from
the collection, vs. the recordset)

Drew

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From fahooper at trapo.com  Tue Nov  7 18:55:36 2006
From: fahooper at trapo.com (Fred Hooper)
Date: Tue, 7 Nov 2006 19:55:36 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Closing an open file
In-Reply-To: <01a001c7028d$1e85adb0$7001a8c0@LaptopXP>
Message-ID: <002901c702d0$99f59490$b414c048@fredxp>

Hi John,

I'd forgotten how messy it is to use; very flexible but it can be tedious.

The general process is (1) Run one of the PsTools to find out who has the
file open, (2) place a batch file on the server that the file you want to
close is on (actually, you're breaking the link to the open file -- it's
still "open" on the user's pc), (3) place a batch file on your pc that will
execute the batch file on the server using one of the PsTools, and (4) If
you're polite you notify the user that the link has been broken. For most of
these steps you should check that they were successful.

I used it in a VB program for copying Cognos cubes (for which dropping a
direct user is a subset of the issues). I'm sending a copy to you off list
as it's too big to attach. Look particularly at the "Copy Locked Cube"
section.

Fred

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of John Skolits
Sent: Tuesday, November 07, 2006 11:52 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Closing an open file

Drew,

I'm looking at sysinternals.com like Fred Hooper suggested. Still trying to
figure out how to use it, especially through VBA. 

If it doesn't work out, I'll go down your suggested road.

John



From Gustav at cactus.dk  Wed Nov  8 04:34:39 2006
From: Gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Wed, 08 Nov 2006 11:34:39 +0100
Subject: [AccessD] Strategies for populating combo boxes
Message-ID: <s551c0f8.051@cactus.dk>

Hi Shamil

Very good.

Of course, if the data aren't static a static array (or static collection or static recordset) cannot be used or, at least, it has to be refilled/required somehow when the underlying data changes. A global variable can be used which is set when data change and reset after the array is refilled.

To watch how intensely a callback function is called, insert a debug line like this:

Public Function OrderListPrint( _
  ctl As Control, _
  ID As Long, _
  row As Long, _
  col As Long, _
  Code As Integer)
  
  Static astrPrint(1 To 7) As String
  
  Dim varValue            As Variant
  Dim lngCount            As Long
  
  Select Case Code
    Case acLBInitialize
      ' Global variable can be set to force a refill of array.
      If Len(astrPrint(1)) = 0 Or pbooRefill = True Then
        ' Fill array.
        For lngCount = 1 To 7
          astrPrint(lngCount) = GetMsg("SaleId90" & lngCount)
        Next
        ' Reset global variable.
        pbooRefill = False
      End If
      varValue = True
    Case acLBOpen
      varValue = Timer
    Case acLBGetRowCount
      varValue = 7    ' Rows.
    Case acLBGetColumnCount
      varValue = 2    ' Columns.
    Case acLBGetColumnWidth
      varValue = -1   ' Column width.
    Case acLBGetValue
      If col = 0 Then
        varValue = row + 1
      ElseIf col = 1 Then
        varValue = astrPrint(row + 1)
      End If
    Case acLBGetFormat     ' Format the data.
      ' varValue = strFormat      
    Case acLBEnd
      ' Do something when form with listbox closes or
      ' listbox is requeried.
  End Select
  
  Debug.Print code, varValue
  OrderListPrint = varValue
    
End Function

/gustav

>>> shamil at users.mns.ru 07-11-2006 19:29:37 >>>
Drew and Gustav,

I will try to "cook" a sample where static array caching can't be used and
then a combo could result in datasheet form scrolling slowdown...

If I will not come with such a sample here in a month (no time currently to
trick around it) then the case I mentioned was the case of the bad callback
function design.

BTW, in MS Access online help is written: "The number of times your
user-defined function is called for acLBGetValue and acLBGetFormat to get
list entries and to format strings varies depending on the number of
entries, the user's scrolling, and other factors." 

"The user's scrolling" they say - be aware of that when using callback
functions - this is what I meant first of all...

--
Shamil 




From askolits at ot.com  Wed Nov  8 06:37:03 2006
From: askolits at ot.com (John Skolits)
Date: Wed, 8 Nov 2006 07:37:03 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Closing an open file
In-Reply-To: <002901c702d0$99f59490$b414c048@fredxp>
Message-ID: <007001c70332$9b70af50$7001a8c0@LaptopXP>

Thanks Fred! I really appreciate it.

John

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Fred Hooper
Sent: Tuesday, November 07, 2006 7:56 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Closing an open file

Hi John,

I'd forgotten how messy it is to use; very flexible but it can be tedious.

The general process is (1) Run one of the PsTools to find out who has the
file open, (2) place a batch file on the server that the file you want to
close is on (actually, you're breaking the link to the open file -- it's
still "open" on the user's pc), (3) place a batch file on your pc that will
execute the batch file on the server using one of the PsTools, and (4) If
you're polite you notify the user that the link has been broken. For most of
these steps you should check that they were successful.

I used it in a VB program for copying Cognos cubes (for which dropping a
direct user is a subset of the issues). I'm sending a copy to you off list
as it's too big to attach. Look particularly at the "Copy Locked Cube"
section.

Fred

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of John Skolits
Sent: Tuesday, November 07, 2006 11:52 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Closing an open file

Drew,

I'm looking at sysinternals.com like Fred Hooper suggested. Still trying to
figure out how to use it, especially through VBA. 

If it doesn't work out, I'll go down your suggested road.

John

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From Gustav at cactus.dk  Wed Nov  8 10:01:48 2006
From: Gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Wed, 08 Nov 2006 17:01:48 +0100
Subject: [AccessD] DBDesigner 4, database design, documentation
Message-ID: <s5520d8b.065@cactus.dk>

Hi all

Just located the DBDesigner 4 free open source tool for database design
with focus on MySQL:

  http://www.fabforce.net 

<quote>
DBDesigner 4 is a visual database design system that integrates
database design, modeling, creation and maintenance into a single,
seamless environment.

It combines professional features and a clear and simple user interface
to offer the most efficient way to handle your databases.

DBDesigner 4 compares to products like Oracle's Designer?, IBM's
Rational Rose?, Computer Associates's ERwin? and theKompany's
DataArchitect? but is an Open Source Project available for Microsoft
Windows? 2k/XP and Linux KDE/Gnome. It is release on the GPL.
</quote>

It will work with SQL Server, SQLite, Oracle and Access via ODBC as
well. It's not targeted at Access developers but may be of use anyway.

/gustav



From john at winhaven.net  Wed Nov  8 14:00:12 2006
From: john at winhaven.net (John Bartow)
Date: Wed, 8 Nov 2006 14:00:12 -0600
Subject: [AccessD] A2k3 system.mdw
In-Reply-To: <000301c6fddd$93c46800$0200a8c0@danwaters>
Message-ID: <200611082000.kA8K0Eq31931@databaseadvisors.com>

Dan,
BTW good idea, but that didn't work for me. I'm using MSDN subscription
install and I can't seem to get it to work correctly. Probably need the
exact disk I installed it from or something and that would be a major task
to figure out.

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Dan Waters
Sent: Wednesday, November 01, 2006 11:46 AM

This might be a long shot but you might do a 'Detect and Repair' for Office.
It might ask you to install the setup disk.



From Kwilliamson at RTKL.com  Thu Nov  9 08:32:15 2006
From: Kwilliamson at RTKL.com (Keith Williamson)
Date: Thu, 9 Nov 2006 09:32:15 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] test
In-Reply-To: <s5520d8b.065@cactus.dk>
Message-ID: <EFFF0FE60ECFB4429947B7659801327B04EC1FEA@EDGAR.rtkl.rtkl.net>

Test!!  Just testing from my new work.  Haven't seen any posting since
early yesterday.



Keith E. Williamson | Assist. Controller| kwilliamson at rtkl.com

RTKL Associates Inc. | 901 South Bond Street | Baltimore, Maryland
21231-3305

410-537-6098 direct | 410-276-2136 fax | www.rtkl.com



From garykjos at gmail.com  Thu Nov  9 08:57:53 2006
From: garykjos at gmail.com (Gary Kjos)
Date: Thu, 9 Nov 2006 08:57:53 -0600
Subject: [AccessD] test
In-Reply-To: <EFFF0FE60ECFB4429947B7659801327B04EC1FEA@EDGAR.rtkl.rtkl.net>
References: <s5520d8b.065@cactus.dk>
	<EFFF0FE60ECFB4429947B7659801327B04EC1FEA@EDGAR.rtkl.rtkl.net>
Message-ID: <aea6c4950611090657k700d5c3en1487f0e60b46b485@mail.gmail.com>

Hi Keith. How's the new job?  GK

On 11/9/06, Keith Williamson <Kwilliamson at rtkl.com> wrote:
> Test!!  Just testing from my new work.  Haven't seen any posting since
> early yesterday.
>
>
>
> Keith E. Williamson | Assist. Controller| kwilliamson at rtkl.com
>
> RTKL Associates Inc. | 901 South Bond Street | Baltimore, Maryland
> 21231-3305
>
> 410-537-6098 direct | 410-276-2136 fax | www.rtkl.com
>
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From Kwilliamson at RTKL.com  Thu Nov  9 09:12:29 2006
From: Kwilliamson at RTKL.com (Keith Williamson)
Date: Thu, 9 Nov 2006 10:12:29 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] test
In-Reply-To: <aea6c4950611090657k700d5c3en1487f0e60b46b485@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <EFFF0FE60ECFB4429947B7659801327B04EC2080@EDGAR.rtkl.rtkl.net>

Thanks, Gary.  All is great.  Although.....street cleaner might have
been a step up.

:)

Keith E. Williamson | Assist. Controller| kwilliamson at rtkl.com

RTKL Associates Inc. | 901 South Bond Street | Baltimore, Maryland
21231-3305

410-537-6098 direct | 410-276-2136 fax | www.rtkl.com


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gary Kjos
Sent: Thursday, November 09, 2006 9:58 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] test

Hi Keith. How's the new job?  GK

On 11/9/06, Keith Williamson <Kwilliamson at rtkl.com> wrote:
> Test!!  Just testing from my new work.  Haven't seen any posting since
> early yesterday.
>
>
>
> Keith E. Williamson | Assist. Controller| kwilliamson at rtkl.com
>
> RTKL Associates Inc. | 901 South Bond Street | Baltimore, Maryland
> 21231-3305
>
> 410-537-6098 direct | 410-276-2136 fax | www.rtkl.com
>
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From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com  Thu Nov  9 09:23:25 2006
From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (JWColby)
Date: Thu, 9 Nov 2006 10:23:25 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] test
In-Reply-To: <EFFF0FE60ECFB4429947B7659801327B04EC2080@EDGAR.rtkl.rtkl.net>
Message-ID: <001301c70413$0082cb90$657aa8c0@m6805>

LOL, I hope you didn't send that message from the new job.  You might be
applying for street sweeper.

;-)

John W. Colby
Colby Consulting
www.ColbyConsulting.com

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Keith Williamson
Sent: Thursday, November 09, 2006 10:12 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] test

Thanks, Gary.  All is great.  Although.....street cleaner might have been a
step up.

:)

Keith E. Williamson | Assist. Controller| kwilliamson at rtkl.com

RTKL Associates Inc. | 901 South Bond Street | Baltimore, Maryland
21231-3305

410-537-6098 direct | 410-276-2136 fax | www.rtkl.com


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gary Kjos
Sent: Thursday, November 09, 2006 9:58 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] test

Hi Keith. How's the new job?  GK

On 11/9/06, Keith Williamson <Kwilliamson at rtkl.com> wrote:
> Test!!  Just testing from my new work.  Haven't seen any posting since 
> early yesterday.
>
>
>
> Keith E. Williamson | Assist. Controller| kwilliamson at rtkl.com
>
> RTKL Associates Inc. | 901 South Bond Street | Baltimore, Maryland
> 21231-3305
>
> 410-537-6098 direct | 410-276-2136 fax | www.rtkl.com
>
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From Jim.Hale at FleetPride.com  Thu Nov  9 09:28:17 2006
From: Jim.Hale at FleetPride.com (Hale, Jim)
Date: Thu, 9 Nov 2006 09:28:17 -0600 
Subject: [AccessD] test
Message-ID: <6A6AA9DF57E4F046BDA1E273BDDB67727DE0E7@corp-es01.fleetpride.com>

Yea, I'm continually reminded by my cohorts that an auditor is the fella
whose job is to bayonet the wounded after the battle has already been fought
and an accountant is the fella who sweeps up after the elephant has already
passed in the parade. :~]
Jim Hale

-----Original Message-----
From: Keith Williamson [mailto:Kwilliamson at rtkl.com]
Sent: Thursday, November 09, 2006 9:12 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] test


Thanks, Gary.  All is great.  Although.....street cleaner might have
been a step up.

:)

Keith E. Williamson | Assist. Controller| kwilliamson at rtkl.com

RTKL Associates Inc. | 901 South Bond Street | Baltimore, Maryland
21231-3305

410-537-6098 direct | 410-276-2136 fax | www.rtkl.com


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gary Kjos
Sent: Thursday, November 09, 2006 9:58 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] test

Hi Keith. How's the new job?  GK

On 11/9/06, Keith Williamson <Kwilliamson at rtkl.com> wrote:
> Test!!  Just testing from my new work.  Haven't seen any posting since
> early yesterday.
>
>
>
> Keith E. Williamson | Assist. Controller| kwilliamson at rtkl.com
>
> RTKL Associates Inc. | 901 South Bond Street | Baltimore, Maryland
> 21231-3305
>
> 410-537-6098 direct | 410-276-2136 fax | www.rtkl.com
>
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From garykjos at gmail.com  Thu Nov  9 09:29:34 2006
From: garykjos at gmail.com (Gary Kjos)
Date: Thu, 9 Nov 2006 09:29:34 -0600
Subject: [AccessD] test
In-Reply-To: <001301c70413$0082cb90$657aa8c0@m6805>
References: <EFFF0FE60ECFB4429947B7659801327B04EC2080@EDGAR.rtkl.rtkl.net>
	<001301c70413$0082cb90$657aa8c0@m6805>
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As Judge Smales says in Caddyshack, "The world needs ditch diggers too!"

GK

On 11/9/06, JWColby <jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com> wrote:
> LOL, I hope you didn't send that message from the new job.  You might be
> applying for street sweeper.
>
> ;-)
>
> John W. Colby
> Colby Consulting
> www.ColbyConsulting.com
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Keith Williamson
> Sent: Thursday, November 09, 2006 10:12 AM
> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] test
>
> Thanks, Gary.  All is great.  Although.....street cleaner might have been a
> step up.
>
> :)
>
> Keith E. Williamson | Assist. Controller| kwilliamson at rtkl.com
>
> RTKL Associates Inc. | 901 South Bond Street | Baltimore, Maryland
> 21231-3305
>
> 410-537-6098 direct | 410-276-2136 fax | www.rtkl.com
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gary Kjos
> Sent: Thursday, November 09, 2006 9:58 AM
> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] test
>
> Hi Keith. How's the new job?  GK
>
> On 11/9/06, Keith Williamson <Kwilliamson at rtkl.com> wrote:
> > Test!!  Just testing from my new work.  Haven't seen any posting since
> > early yesterday.
> >
> >
> >
> > Keith E. Williamson | Assist. Controller| kwilliamson at rtkl.com
> >
> > RTKL Associates Inc. | 901 South Bond Street | Baltimore, Maryland
> > 21231-3305
> >
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> >
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From Kwilliamson at RTKL.com  Thu Nov  9 09:33:55 2006
From: Kwilliamson at RTKL.com (Keith Williamson)
Date: Thu, 9 Nov 2006 10:33:55 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] test
In-Reply-To: <001301c70413$0082cb90$657aa8c0@m6805>
Message-ID: <EFFF0FE60ECFB4429947B7659801327B04EC20BF@EDGAR.rtkl.rtkl.net>

To be clear, street cleaner would have been a step up from the OLD
job...not the new.  :)

{wanted to make sure that any prying eyes understood...cause yes...this
is from my new job.}

:)

Keith E. Williamson | Assist. Controller| kwilliamson at rtkl.com

RTKL Associates Inc. | 901 South Bond Street | Baltimore, Maryland
21231-3305

410-537-6098 direct | 410-276-2136 fax | www.rtkl.com


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of JWColby
Sent: Thursday, November 09, 2006 10:23 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: Re: [AccessD] test

LOL, I hope you didn't send that message from the new job.  You might be
applying for street sweeper.

;-)

John W. Colby
Colby Consulting
www.ColbyConsulting.com

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Keith
Williamson
Sent: Thursday, November 09, 2006 10:12 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] test

Thanks, Gary.  All is great.  Although.....street cleaner might have
been a
step up.

:)

Keith E. Williamson | Assist. Controller| kwilliamson at rtkl.com

RTKL Associates Inc. | 901 South Bond Street | Baltimore, Maryland
21231-3305

410-537-6098 direct | 410-276-2136 fax | www.rtkl.com


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gary Kjos
Sent: Thursday, November 09, 2006 9:58 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] test

Hi Keith. How's the new job?  GK

On 11/9/06, Keith Williamson <Kwilliamson at rtkl.com> wrote:
> Test!!  Just testing from my new work.  Haven't seen any posting since

> early yesterday.
>
>
>
> Keith E. Williamson | Assist. Controller| kwilliamson at rtkl.com
>
> RTKL Associates Inc. | 901 South Bond Street | Baltimore, Maryland
> 21231-3305
>
> 410-537-6098 direct | 410-276-2136 fax | www.rtkl.com
>
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From dgibso at uark.edu  Thu Nov  9 09:53:59 2006
From: dgibso at uark.edu (David A Gibson)
Date: Thu, 09 Nov 2006 09:53:59 -0600
Subject: [AccessD] test
In-Reply-To: <6A6AA9DF57E4F046BDA1E273BDDB67727DE0E7@corp-es01.fleetprid e.com>
References: <6A6AA9DF57E4F046BDA1E273BDDB67727DE0E7@corp-es01.fleetpride.com>
Message-ID: <7.0.1.0.0.20061109095233.01dbec40@uark.edu>

You might also add that a Statistician is someone who lacks the 
personality to be an Accountant.

David G.

At 09:28 AM 11/9/2006, you wrote:
>Yea, I'm continually reminded by my cohorts that an auditor is the fella
>whose job is to bayonet the wounded after the battle has already been fought
>and an accountant is the fella who sweeps up after the elephant has already
>passed in the parade. :~]
>Jim Hale
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Keith Williamson [mailto:Kwilliamson at rtkl.com]
>Sent: Thursday, November 09, 2006 9:12 AM
>To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
>Subject: Re: [AccessD] test
>
>
>Thanks, Gary.  All is great.  Although.....street cleaner might have
>been a step up.
>
>:)
>
>Keith E. Williamson | Assist. Controller| kwilliamson at rtkl.com
>
>RTKL Associates Inc. | 901 South Bond Street | Baltimore, Maryland
>21231-3305
>
>410-537-6098 direct | 410-276-2136 fax | www.rtkl.com
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gary Kjos
>Sent: Thursday, November 09, 2006 9:58 AM
>To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
>Subject: Re: [AccessD] test
>
>Hi Keith. How's the new job?  GK
>
>On 11/9/06, Keith Williamson <Kwilliamson at rtkl.com> wrote:
> > Test!!  Just testing from my new work.  Haven't seen any posting since
> > early yesterday.
> >
> >
> >
> > Keith E. Williamson | Assist. Controller| kwilliamson at rtkl.com
> >
> > RTKL Associates Inc. | 901 South Bond Street | Baltimore, Maryland
> > 21231-3305
> >
> > 410-537-6098 direct | 410-276-2136 fax | www.rtkl.com
> >
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From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com  Thu Nov  9 10:04:57 2006
From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (JWColby)
Date: Thu, 9 Nov 2006 11:04:57 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] test
In-Reply-To: <EFFF0FE60ECFB4429947B7659801327B04EC20BF@EDGAR.rtkl.rtkl.net>
Message-ID: <001f01c70418$ce1753f0$657aa8c0@m6805>

ROTFLMAO!!! 

John W. Colby
Colby Consulting
www.ColbyConsulting.com

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Keith Williamson
Sent: Thursday, November 09, 2006 10:34 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] test

To be clear, street cleaner would have been a step up from the OLD job...not
the new.  :)

{wanted to make sure that any prying eyes understood...cause yes...this is
from my new job.}

:)

Keith E. Williamson | Assist. Controller| kwilliamson at rtkl.com

RTKL Associates Inc. | 901 South Bond Street | Baltimore, Maryland
21231-3305

410-537-6098 direct | 410-276-2136 fax | www.rtkl.com


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of JWColby
Sent: Thursday, November 09, 2006 10:23 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: Re: [AccessD] test

LOL, I hope you didn't send that message from the new job.  You might be
applying for street sweeper.

;-)

John W. Colby
Colby Consulting
www.ColbyConsulting.com

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Keith Williamson
Sent: Thursday, November 09, 2006 10:12 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] test

Thanks, Gary.  All is great.  Although.....street cleaner might have been a
step up.

:)

Keith E. Williamson | Assist. Controller| kwilliamson at rtkl.com

RTKL Associates Inc. | 901 South Bond Street | Baltimore, Maryland
21231-3305

410-537-6098 direct | 410-276-2136 fax | www.rtkl.com


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gary Kjos
Sent: Thursday, November 09, 2006 9:58 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] test

Hi Keith. How's the new job?  GK

On 11/9/06, Keith Williamson <Kwilliamson at rtkl.com> wrote:
> Test!!  Just testing from my new work.  Haven't seen any posting since

> early yesterday.
>
>
>
> Keith E. Williamson | Assist. Controller| kwilliamson at rtkl.com
>
> RTKL Associates Inc. | 901 South Bond Street | Baltimore, Maryland
> 21231-3305
>
> 410-537-6098 direct | 410-276-2136 fax | www.rtkl.com
>
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From ssharkins at setel.com  Thu Nov  9 12:45:43 2006
From: ssharkins at setel.com (Susan Harkins)
Date: Thu, 9 Nov 2006 13:45:43 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Interesting behavior with Val()
Message-ID: <006901c7042f$43c53480$b034fad1@SUSANONE>

I've read Help looking for an explanation for what I'm about to say, but
haven't found one. 
 
The following expression returns 1 if value has no numeric digits:
 
Len(Val(value))
 
I expected the expression to return 0. You can test this on the Employees
table in Northwind -- there are two records where the Address value is alpha
text, with no numeric digits at the beginning of the value. The above
expression, against those two values, returns 1. 
 
What am I missing? 
 
Susan H. 


From ssharkins at setel.com  Thu Nov  9 13:05:07 2006
From: ssharkins at setel.com (Susan Harkins)
Date: Thu, 9 Nov 2006 14:05:07 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Nevermind (RE:  Interesting behavior with Val())
In-Reply-To: <006901c7042f$43c53480$b034fad1@SUSANONE>
Message-ID: <007c01c70431$fa92ecf0$b034fad1@SUSANONE>

Sometimes I suffer from serious disconnect... 

Susan H. 
 
 
I expected the expression to return 0. You can test this on the Employees
table in Northwind -- there are two records where the 



From bheid at appdevgrp.com  Thu Nov  9 13:06:16 2006
From: bheid at appdevgrp.com (Bobby Heid)
Date: Thu, 9 Nov 2006 14:06:16 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Interesting behavior with Val()
In-Reply-To: <916187228923D311A6FE00A0CC3FAA30E6F48B@ADGSERVER>
Message-ID: <916187228923D311A6FE00A0CC3FAA30D35A86@ADGSERVER>

Because Val returns 0 and the length of "0" is 1.

In the immediate window try: ? val("abc")


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Susan Harkins
Sent: Thursday, November 09, 2006 1:46 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] Interesting behavior with Val()


I've read Help looking for an explanation for what I'm about to say, but
haven't found one. 
 
The following expression returns 1 if value has no numeric digits:
 
Len(Val(value))
 
I expected the expression to return 0. You can test this on the Employees
table in Northwind -- there are two records where the Address value is alpha
text, with no numeric digits at the beginning of the value. The above
expression, against those two values, returns 1. 
 
What am I missing? 
 
Susan H. 



From ssharkins at setel.com  Thu Nov  9 13:19:00 2006
From: ssharkins at setel.com (Susan Harkins)
Date: Thu, 9 Nov 2006 14:19:00 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Interesting behavior with Val()
In-Reply-To: <916187228923D311A6FE00A0CC3FAA30D35A86@ADGSERVER>
Message-ID: <008301c70433$e9aa3e00$b034fad1@SUSANONE>

Bobby, I realized that as soon as I sent the question -- sorry. But thank
you for responding! ;) I had 0 stuck in the brain, without following the
process all the way through. Some days are harder than  others. 

Susan H. 

Because Val returns 0 and the length of "0" is 1.





From Lambert.Heenan at AIG.com  Thu Nov  9 13:22:13 2006
From: Lambert.Heenan at AIG.com (Heenan, Lambert)
Date: Thu, 9 Nov 2006 13:22:13 -0600 
Subject: [AccessD] Interesting behavior with Val()
Message-ID: <E762D59BC2D0694998629044C75FA28503A9C3BC@xlivmbx26.aig.com>

Well, while the help file is not explicit on this, the results you are
seeing do make sense. Val() is supposed to extract a numeric value from the
left end of a string, skipping over any spaces and the recognizing "&O" and
"&H" to indicate Octal and Hex numbers. 

So Val("1abcde") will return 1, but Val("abcd") will return 0 (zero).  This
is because Val() is declare as returning a double, so the "value" of an all
alpha string is treated as zero.

And so Len(Val("abcd")) will be 1 not zero.

If your intent was to find out if a string *begins* with a numeric value
then you could try...

If IsNumeric(Left(Trim(strValue),1)) Then
	' Got a digit
Else
	' Does not start with a digit
End If

Lambert 

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Susan Harkins
Sent: Thursday, November 09, 2006 1:46 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] Interesting behavior with Val()


I've read Help looking for an explanation for what I'm about to say, but
haven't found one. 
 
The following expression returns 1 if value has no numeric digits:
 
Len(Val(value))
 
I expected the expression to return 0. You can test this on the Employees
table in Northwind -- there are two records where the Address value is alpha
text, with no numeric digits at the beginning of the value. The above
expression, against those two values, returns 1. 
 
What am I missing? 
 
Susan H. 
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From DWUTKA at marlow.com  Thu Nov  9 15:46:08 2006
From: DWUTKA at marlow.com (DWUTKA at marlow.com)
Date: Thu, 9 Nov 2006 15:46:08 -0600 
Subject: [AccessD] Interesting behavior with Val()
Message-ID: <17724746D360394AA3BFE5B8D40A9C1B0139B51A@MARLOW_MAIN2.marlow.com>

Val is returning 0, which has a length of 1.

Drew

-----Original Message-----
From: Susan Harkins [mailto:ssharkins at setel.com] 
Sent: Thursday, November 09, 2006 12:46 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] Interesting behavior with Val()

I've read Help looking for an explanation for what I'm about to say, but
haven't found one. 
 
The following expression returns 1 if value has no numeric digits:
 
Len(Val(value))
 
I expected the expression to return 0. You can test this on the Employees
table in Northwind -- there are two records where the Address value is alpha
text, with no numeric digits at the beginning of the value. The above
expression, against those two values, returns 1. 
 
What am I missing? 
 
Susan H. 
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From cclenright at yahoo.com  Thu Nov  9 15:52:07 2006
From: cclenright at yahoo.com (Chris Enright)
Date: Thu, 9 Nov 2006 13:52:07 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [AccessD] test
Message-ID: <20061109215207.80130.qmail@web34304.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

v\:* {behavior:url (#default#vml);}v\:* {	BEHAVIOR: url (#default#vml)}
Which brings to mind the phrase attributed to Benjamin Disraeli:

"There are three kinds of lies: lies, damn lies, and statistics"
 Chris E
 
-------Original Message-------
 
From: David A Gibson
Date: 09/11/2006 15:59:13
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] test

 
You might also add that a Statistician is someone who lacks the
personality to be an Accountant.
 
David G.
 
At 09:28 AM 11/9/2006, you wrote:
>Yea, I'm continually reminded by my cohorts that an auditor is the fella
>whose job is to bayonet the wounded after the battle has already been fought
>and an accountant is the fella who sweeps up after the elephant has already
>passed in the parade. :~]
>Jim Hale
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Keith Williamson [mailto:Kwilliamson at rtkl.com]
>Sent: Thursday, November 09, 2006 9:12 AM
>To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
>Subject: Re: [AccessD] test
>
>
>Thanks, Gary.  All is great.  Although.....street cleaner might have
>been a step up.
>
>:)
>
>Keith E. Williamson | Assist. Controller| kwilliamson at rtkl.com
>
>RTKL Associates Inc. | 901 South Bond Street | Baltimore, Maryland
>21231-3305
>
>410-537-6098 direct | 410-276-2136 fax | www.rtkl.com
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gary Kjos
>Sent: Thursday, November 09, 2006 9:58 AM
>To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
>Subject: Re: [AccessD] test
>
>Hi Keith. How's the new job?  GK
>
>On 11/9/06, Keith Williamson <Kwilliamson at rtkl.com> wrote:
> > Test!!  Just testing from my new work.  Haven't seen any posting since
> > early yesterday.
> >
> >
> >
> > Keith E. Williamson | Assist. Controller| kwilliamson at rtkl.com
> >
> > RTKL Associates Inc. | 901 South Bond Street | Baltimore, Maryland
> > 21231-3305
> >
> > 410-537-6098 direct | 410-276-2136 fax | www.rtkl.com
> >
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> >
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>
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From cclenright at yahoo.com  Thu Nov  9 16:11:43 2006
From: cclenright at yahoo.com (Chris Enright)
Date: Thu, 9 Nov 2006 14:11:43 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [AccessD] OT: Weird email line
Message-ID: <20061109221143.88825.qmail@web34308.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

v\:* {behavior:url (#default#vml);}v\:* {	BEHAVIOR: url (#default#vml)} Could someone please explain this strange line?
 
On the few occasions I send an email to AccessD the copy of my message that comes back to me always begins with the line
 
V\:* {behavior:URL (#default#vml);}v\:* { BEHAVIOR: URL (#default#vml)}
 
It never happens any other time. Only with my messages and this list
 
My incoming mail goes to my yahoo address and is then downloaded into Incredimail using  YPOPs.
 
What is generating that line?
 
 
Chris
 
 

 
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From robert at servicexp.com  Thu Nov  9 17:17:39 2006
From: robert at servicexp.com (Robert)
Date: Thu, 9 Nov 2006 18:17:39 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Xtreme CalendarPro Anyone???
In-Reply-To: <20061109221143.88825.qmail@web34308.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <000c01c70455$4b84e3c0$dcc05005@roberts>

 Hello All,
 I need to create a scheduling calendar, and need multi-resource view
capacities. I'm thinking about using Xtreme CalendarPro ActiveX control?

 Has anyone used this control before? Any better solutions out there?


Thanks
Robert



From dwaters at usinternet.com  Thu Nov  9 17:30:17 2006
From: dwaters at usinternet.com (Dan Waters)
Date: Thu, 9 Nov 2006 17:30:17 -0600
Subject: [AccessD] Xtreme CalendarPro Anyone???
In-Reply-To: <23300175.1163114558183.JavaMail.root@sniper41>
Message-ID: <003901c70457$052a90d0$0200a8c0@danwaters>

Why not use a Project Management application?  Like MS Project (but
hopefully cheaper?).  These are made specifically for scheduling and
managing resources.

Dan Waters
 
-----Original Message-----
Subject: [AccessD] Xtreme CalendarPro Anyone???

 Hello All,
 I need to create a scheduling calendar, and need multi-resource view
capacities. I'm thinking about using Xtreme CalendarPro ActiveX control?

 Has anyone used this control before? Any better solutions out there?


Thanks
Robert



From michael at ddisolutions.com.au  Thu Nov  9 18:43:00 2006
From: michael at ddisolutions.com.au (Michael Maddison)
Date: Fri, 10 Nov 2006 11:43:00 +1100
Subject: [AccessD] Xtreme CalendarPro Anyone???
Message-ID: <59A61174B1F5B54B97FD4ADDE71E7D0116AC99@ddi-01.DDI.local>

Don't know about better but I think Janus do something like that.
www.janusys.com

Their grid rules...


cheers


Michael M


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Robert
Sent: Friday, 10 November 2006 10:18 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] Xtreme CalendarPro Anyone???

 Hello All,
 I need to create a scheduling calendar, and need multi-resource view
capacities. I'm thinking about using Xtreme CalendarPro ActiveX control?

 Has anyone used this control before? Any better solutions out there?


Thanks
Robert

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From bheid at appdevgrp.com  Fri Nov 10 06:09:17 2006
From: bheid at appdevgrp.com (Bobby Heid)
Date: Fri, 10 Nov 2006 07:09:17 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] OT: Weird email line
In-Reply-To: <916187228923D311A6FE00A0CC3FAA30E6F4D7@ADGSERVER>
Message-ID: <916187228923D311A6FE00A0CC3FAA30D35A8A@ADGSERVER>

I've never seen anything like this in my emails from AccessD.  Must be
something on your side.  My ISP does insert [Spam Suspect] many times into
the subject header.

Bobby

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Chris Enright
Sent: Thursday, November 09, 2006 5:12 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: [AccessD] OT: Weird email line


v\:* {behavior:url (#default#vml);}v\:* {	BEHAVIOR: url
(#default#vml)} Could someone please explain this strange line?
 
On the few occasions I send an email to AccessD the copy of my message that
comes back to me always begins with the line
 
V\:* {behavior:URL (#default#vml);}v\:* { BEHAVIOR: URL (#default#vml)}
 
It never happens any other time. Only with my messages and this list
 
My incoming mail goes to my yahoo address and is then downloaded into
Incredimail using  YPOPs.
 
What is generating that line?
 
 
Chris



From carbonnb at gmail.com  Fri Nov 10 06:35:00 2006
From: carbonnb at gmail.com (Bryan Carbonnell)
Date: Fri, 10 Nov 2006 07:35:00 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] OT: Weird email line
In-Reply-To: <20061109221143.88825.qmail@web34308.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <20061109221143.88825.qmail@web34308.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <e04a6c920611100435g2f9bc158s68353529c2432336@mail.gmail.com>

On 11/9/06, Chris Enright <cclenright at yahoo.com> wrote:
> v\:* {behavior:url (#default#vml);}v\:* {       BEHAVIOR: url (#default#vml)} Could someone please explain this strange line?
>
> On the few occasions I send an email to AccessD the copy of my message that comes back to me always begins with the line
>
> V\:* {behavior:URL (#default#vml);}v\:* { BEHAVIOR: URL (#default#vml)}
>
> It never happens any other time. Only with my messages and this list
>
> My incoming mail goes to my yahoo address and is then downloaded into Incredimail using  YPOPs.
>
> What is generating that line?

It's being generated by the HTML mail that you are creating.

The list software will strip the HTML part, but that line appears to
fall outside of the HTML part of the e-mail.

To get rid of the line, create and send e-mail in plain text only.

Your friendly neighbourhood Listmaster,


-- 
Bryan Carbonnell - carbonnb at gmail.com
Life's journey is not to arrive at the grave safely in a well
preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, totally worn out,
shouting "What a great ride!"


From mikedorism at verizon.net  Fri Nov 10 09:06:50 2006
From: mikedorism at verizon.net (Doris Manning)
Date: Fri, 10 Nov 2006 10:06:50 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Xtreme CalendarPro Anyone???
In-Reply-To: <59A61174B1F5B54B97FD4ADDE71E7D0116AC99@ddi-01.DDI.local>
Message-ID: <000301c704d9$da0678a0$2f01a8c0@Kermit>

Yes it does.  I love the whole suite of Janus UI controls and am super happy
that they have now put out web versions.

Doris Manning

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Michael Maddison
Sent: Thursday, November 09, 2006 7:43 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Xtreme CalendarPro Anyone???

Don't know about better but I think Janus do something like that.
www.janusys.com

Their grid rules...


cheers


Michael M




From robert at servicexp.com  Fri Nov 10 09:24:58 2006
From: robert at servicexp.com (robert)
Date: Fri, 10 Nov 2006 10:24:58 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Xtreme CalendarPro Anyone???
In-Reply-To: <000301c704d9$da0678a0$2f01a8c0@Kermit>
Message-ID: <!~!UENERkVCMDkAAQACAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAABgAAAAAAAAANgyuA0h3CUiC3/waruM+ZsKAAAAQAAAAfNBt0xKRuESRvpLnzUZG5AEAAAAA@servicexp.com>


Am I missing something, I don't see an ActiveX version of the schedule
calendar on their site??

Thanks
Robert

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Doris Manning
Sent: Friday, November 10, 2006 10:07 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Xtreme CalendarPro Anyone???

Yes it does.  I love the whole suite of Janus UI controls and am super happy
that they have now put out web versions.

Doris Manning

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Michael Maddison
Sent: Thursday, November 09, 2006 7:43 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Xtreme CalendarPro Anyone???

Don't know about better but I think Janus do something like that.
www.janusys.com

Their grid rules...


cheers


Michael M


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From mikedorism at verizon.net  Fri Nov 10 10:03:43 2006
From: mikedorism at verizon.net (Doris Manning)
Date: Fri, 10 Nov 2006 11:03:43 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Xtreme CalendarPro Anyone???
In-Reply-To: <!~!UENERkVCMDkAAQACAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAABgAAAAAAAAANgyuA0h3CUiC3/waruM+ZsKAAAAQAAAAfNBt0xKRuESRvpLnzUZG5AEAAAAA@servicexp.com>
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Sorry.  Janus used to sell a version 2.0 of their UI controls that was
useable in Visual Studio 2003 as well as Access 2000 and up.  It looks like
they have discontinued that in favor of the controls that only work in
Visual Studio 2005.

Doris Manning

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of robert
Sent: Friday, November 10, 2006 10:25 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Xtreme CalendarPro Anyone???


Am I missing something, I don't see an ActiveX version of the schedule
calendar on their site??

Thanks
Robert




From john at winhaven.net  Fri Nov 10 10:51:12 2006
From: john at winhaven.net (John Bartow)
Date: Fri, 10 Nov 2006 10:51:12 -0600
Subject: [AccessD] Xerox Freeflow
Message-ID: <200611101651.kAAGpHq02596@databaseadvisors.com>

Anyone have experience working with or through the installation of the Xerox
Freeflow system?


From Jim.Hale at FleetPride.com  Fri Nov 10 13:45:17 2006
From: Jim.Hale at FleetPride.com (Hale, Jim)
Date: Fri, 10 Nov 2006 13:45:17 -0600
Subject: [AccessD] OT: Where is everybody? Friday humor to wake you up
Message-ID: <6A6AA9DF57E4F046BDA1E273BDDB67727DE0F0@corp-es01.fleetpride.com>

It's too quiet for a Friday!

WINTER CLASSES FOR MEN AT: THE LEARNING CENTER FOR ADULTS  REGISTRATION MUST
BE COMPLETED BY Saturday, December 12, 2006 NOTE: DUE TO THE COMPLEXITY AND
DIFFICULTY LEVEL OF THEIR CONTENTS, CLASS SIZES WILL BE LIMITED TO 8
PARTICIPANTS MAXIMUM.  
 
Class 1 
How To Fill Up The Ice Cube Trays --- Step by Step, with Slide Presentation.
Meets 4 weeks, Monday and Wednesday for 2 hours beginning at 7:00 PM. 

Class 2 
The Toilet Paper Roll --- Does It Change Itself? Round Table Discussion.
Meets 2 weeks, Saturday 12:00 for 2 hours.  

Class 3 
Is It Possible To Urinate Using The Technique Of Lifting The Seat and
Avoiding The Floor, Walls and Nearby Bathtub? --- Group Practice. Meets 4
weeks, Saturday 10:00 PM for 2 hours.  

Class 4 
Fundamental Differences Between The Laundry Hamper and The Floor ---
Pictures and Explanatory Graphics. Meets Saturdays at 2:00 PM for 3 weeks.  

Class 5 
After Dinner Dishes --- Can They Levitate and Fly Into The Kitchen Sink?
Examples on Video. Meets 4 weeks, Tuesday and Thursday for 2 hours beginning
at 7:00 PM  

Class 6 
Loss Of Identity --- Losing The Remote To Your Significant Other. Help Line
Support and Support Groups. Meets 4 Weeks, Friday and Sunday 7:00 PM  

Class 7 
Learning How To Find Things --- Starting With Looking In The Right Places
And Not Turning The House Upside Down While Screaming. Open Forum . Monday
at 8:00 PM, 2 hours.  

Class 8 
Health Watch --- Bringing Her Flowers Is Not Harmful To Your Health.
Graphics and Audio Tapes. Three nights; Monday, Wednesday, Friday at 7:00 PM
for 2 hours.  

Class 9 
Real Men Ask For Directions When Lost --- Real Life Testimonials. Tuesdays
at 6:00 PM Location to be determined.  

Class 10 
Is It Genetically Impossible To Sit Quietly While She Parallel Parks?
Driving Simulations. 4 weeks, Saturday's noon, 2 hours.  

Class 11 
Learning to Live --- Basic Differences Between Mother and Wife. Online
Classes and role-playing . Tuesdays at 7:00 PM, location to be determined  

Class 12 
How to be the Ideal Shopping Companion Relaxation Exercises, Meditation and
Breathing Techniques. Meets 4 weeks, Tuesday and Thursday for 2 hours
beginning at 7:00 PM.  

Class 13 
How to Fight Cerebral Atrophy --- Remembering Birthdays, Anniversaries and
Other Important Dates and Calling When You're Going To Be Late. Cerebral
Shock Therapy Sessions and Full Lobotomies Offered. Three nights; Monday,
Wednesday, Friday at 7:00 PM for 2 hours. 

Class 14 
The Stove/Oven --- What It Is and How It Is Used. Live Demonstration.
Tuesdays at 6:00 PM, location to be determined.  Upon completion of any of
the above courses, diplomas will be issued to the survivors.    


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From mfisch4 at capex.com.ar  Fri Nov 10 14:15:39 2006
From: mfisch4 at capex.com.ar (MF)
Date: Fri, 10 Nov 2006 17:15:39 -0300
Subject: [AccessD] OT: Friday humor
In-Reply-To: <6A6AA9DF57E4F046BDA1E273BDDB67727DE0F0@corp-es01.fleetprid e.com>
References: <6A6AA9DF57E4F046BDA1E273BDDB67727DE0F0@corp-es01.fleetpride.com>
Message-ID: <6.2.3.4.0.20061110171510.03623f30@bsas-mail>


New Dictionary Terms

Blamestorming: Sitting around in a group discussing why a deadline 
was missed or a project failed, and who was responsible.

Cube Farm: An office filled with cubicles.

Prairie Dogging: When someone yells or drops something loudly in a 
cube farm, and people's heads pop up over the walls to see what's going on.

Ego Surfing: Scanning the Net, databases, print media and so on, 
looking for references to one's own name.

Elvis Year: The peak year of something's or someone's popularity. 
"Barney the Dinosaur's Elvis year was 1993."

404: Someone who's clueless. "Don't bother asking him; he's 404." 
 From the WWW error message "404 Not Found", meaning the requested 
document couldn't be located.

Idea Hamsters: People who always seem to have their idea generators running.

Keyboard Plaque: The disgusting buildup of dirt and crud found on 
computer keyboards.

Mouse Potato: The on-line, wired generation's answer to the couch potato.

Oh-no-second: That minuscule fraction of time in which you realize 
that you've just made a big mistake.

Perot: To quit unexpectedly, as in "My cellular phone just perot'ed."

SITCOM: What yuppies turn into when they have children and one of 
them stops working to stay home with the kids. Stands for Single 
Income, Two Children, Oppressive Mortgage.

Squirt the Bird: To transmit a signal to a satellite.

Starter Marriage: A short-lived first marriage that ends in divorce 
with no kids, no property and no regrets.

Stress Puppy: A person who seems to thrive on being stressed out and whiny.

Body Nazis: Hard-core exercise and weight-lifting fanatics who look 
down on anyone who doesn't work out obsessively.

Swiped Out: An ATM or credit card that has been rendered useless 
because the magnetic strip is worn away from extensive use.

Tourists: People who take training classes just to get a vacation 
from their jobs. "We had three serious students in the class; the 
rest were just tourists."

Uninstalled: Euphemism for being fired.
------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Things You Wish You Could Say At Work

1. Ahhh, I see the fuck-up fairy has visited us again.

2. I don't know what your problem is, but I'll bet it's hard to pronounce.

3. How about never? Is never good for you?

4. I see you've set aside this special time to humiliate yourself in public.

5. I'm really easy to get along with once you people learn to worship me.

6. I'll try being nicer if you'll try being smarter.

7. I'm out of my mind, but feel free to leave a message.

8. I don't work here. I'm a consultant.

9. It sounds like English, but I can't understand a word you're saying.

10. I can see your point, but I still think you're full of shit.

11. I like you. You remind me of when I was young and stupid.

12. You are validating my inherent mistrust of strangers.

13. I have plenty of talent and vision. I just don't give a damn.

14. I'm already visualizing the duct tape over your mouth.

15. I will always cherish the initial misconceptions I had about you.

16. Thank you. We're all refreshed and challenged by your unique point of view.

17. The fact that no one understands you doesn't mean you're an artist.

18. Any connection between your reality and mine is purely coincidental.

19. What am I? Flypaper for freaks!?

20. I'm not being rude. You're just insignificant.

21. It's a thankless job, but I've got a lot of Karma to burn off.

22. Yes, I am an agent of Satan, but my duties are largely ceremonial.

23. You sound reasonable ... Time to up the medication.

24. Who me? I just wander from room to room.
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Cubans

St. Peter came to the Lord and said, "I have to talk to  you."

We have some Cubans up here who are causing problems.
My  flute is missing, mojo sauce is all over the place,
they are making  guayaberas from their robes,
they have domino tables in the cafeteria,  and they're
wearing baseball caps instead of halos.
They refuse to  stop making Cuban Coffee on the heaven's stairs and some
of them are walking around with just one wing."

The Lord said, "Cubans are  Cubans, Peter. Heaven is home to all my
children. If you want to know about real problems, ask the Devil."

Peter calls - the Devil  answered the phone "Hello? Damn, hold on a
minute."

The Devil returned  to the phone, "O.K., I'm back. What can I do for
you?"

Peter  replied, "I just want to know what kind of problems you're having
down  there." The Devil again said Hold on, Hold On....

The Devil said  "I'm back. Now what was the question?"
Peter said "What kind of problems  are you having down there?"

The Devil said "Man, I don't believe  this...Hold on."
This time the Devil was gone 15 minutes. The Devil  returned and said,

"I'm sorry Peter, I can't talk right now. Those damn  Cubans have put out
the fire and are trying to install air  conditioning."
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Here goes Little Tony AGAIN!!!!!

A teacher asks her class, "If there are 5 birds sitting on a fence and you
shoot one of them, how many will be left?" She calls on little TONY.

He replies, "None, they will all fly away with the first gunshot."

The teacher replies, "The correct answer is 4, but I like your thinking."

Then little TONY says, "I have a question for YOU.

There are 3 women sitting on a bench having ice cream:

One is delicately licking the sides of the triple scoop of ice cream . The
second is gobbling down the top and sucking the cone. The third is biting
off
the top of the ice cream. Which one is married?"

The teacher, blushing a great deal, replied, "Well, I suppose the one
that's
gobbled down the top and sucked the cone."

To which Little TONY replied, "The correct answer is 'the one with the
wedding ring on," but I like your thinking."
------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
LITTLE TONY ON MATH (Part 2)

Little TONY retur ns from school and says he got an F in arithmetic.

"Why?" asks the father?

"The teacher asked 'How much is 2x3,'" I said "6", replies TONY.

"But that's right!" says his dad.

"Yeah, but then she asked me "How much is 3x2?'"

"What's the f...... difference?" asks the father.

"That's what I said!"
------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

LITTLE TONY ON ENGLISH

Little TONY goes to school, and the teacher says, "Today we are going to
learn multi-syllable words, class. Does anybody have an example of a
multi-syllable word?"

TONY says "Mas-tur-bate."

Miss Rogers smiles and says, "Wow, little TONY, that's a mouthful."

Little TONY says, "No, Miss Rogers, you're thinking of a blowjob."
------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
LITTLE TONY ON GRAMMAR

Little TONY was sitting in class one day.

All of a sudden, he needed to go to the bathroom . He yelled out, "Miss
Jones, I need to take a piss!!"

The teacher replied, 'Now, TONY, that is NOT the proper word to use in this
situation. The correct word you want to use is 'urinate.' Please use the
word
'ur-i-nate' in a sentence correctly, and I will allow you to go."

Little TONY, thinks for a bit, and then says, "You're an eight, but if you
had bigger boobs, you'd be a TEN!"
------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
LITTLE TONY ON GRAMMAR (Part 2)

One day, during lessons on proper grammar, the teacher asked for a show of
hands from those who could use the word "beautiful" in the same sentence
twice.



First, she called on little Suzie, who responded with, "My father bought my
mother a beautiful dress and she looked beautiful in it."



"Very good, Suzie," replied the teacher. She then called on little
Michael.



"My mommy planned a beautiful banquet and it turned out be autifully."



She said, "Excellent, Michael!" Then the teacher reluctantly called on
little TONY.



"Last night at the dinner table, my sister told my father that she was
pregnant, and he said 'Beautiful, just f...... beautiful!'"


------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------




LITTLE TONY ON GETTING OLDER






Little TONY was sitting on a park bench munching on one candy bar after
another.

After the 6th one a man on the bench across from him said, "Son, you know
eating all that candy isn't good for you. It will give you acne, rot your
teeth, and make you fat."



Little TONY replied, "My grandfather lived to be 107 years old."



The man asked, "Did your grandfather eat 6 candy bars at a time?"

Little TONY answered, "No, he minded his own f....... business.




------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------





From ssharkins at setel.com  Fri Nov 10 17:22:16 2006
From: ssharkins at setel.com (Susan Harkins)
Date: Fri, 10 Nov 2006 18:22:16 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] OT: Where is everybody? Friday humor to wake you up
In-Reply-To: <6A6AA9DF57E4F046BDA1E273BDDB67727DE0F0@corp-es01.fleetpride.com>
Message-ID: <001501c7051f$1033e530$e6b82ad1@SUSANONE>

 
Is It Possible To Urinate Using The Technique Of Lifting The Seat and
Avoiding The Floor, Walls and Nearby Bathtub? --- Group Practice. Meets 4
weeks, Saturday 10:00 PM for 2 hours.  

========I really don't suggest this -- how else are they gonna mark their
territory? 

Susan H. 



From ssharkins at setel.com  Fri Nov 10 17:22:16 2006
From: ssharkins at setel.com (Susan Harkins)
Date: Fri, 10 Nov 2006 18:22:16 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] OT: Friday humor
In-Reply-To: <6.2.3.4.0.20061110171510.03623f30@bsas-mail>
Message-ID: <001601c7051f$10e92b70$e6b82ad1@SUSANONE>

 

Swiped Out: An ATM or credit card that has been rendered useless because the
magnetic strip is worn away from extensive use.

=======Speaking of... I have trouble using my debit card at one Wal-mart
store -- just one Wal-mart and no place else, not even other Wal-marts.
What's up with that?

Susan H. 



From DWUTKA at marlow.com  Fri Nov 10 17:29:07 2006
From: DWUTKA at marlow.com (DWUTKA at marlow.com)
Date: Fri, 10 Nov 2006 17:29:07 -0600
Subject: [AccessD] OT: Friday humor
Message-ID: <17724746D360394AA3BFE5B8D40A9C1B0139B697@MARLOW_MAIN2.marlow.com>

Bad connection to the authorizing agent.  Ask the management if other people
have problems with their cards.

Drew

-----Original Message-----
From: Susan Harkins [mailto:ssharkins at setel.com] 
Sent: Friday, November 10, 2006 5:22 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: Re: [AccessD] OT: Friday humor

 

Swiped Out: An ATM or credit card that has been rendered useless because the
magnetic strip is worn away from extensive use.

=======Speaking of... I have trouble using my debit card at one Wal-mart
store -- just one Wal-mart and no place else, not even other Wal-marts.
What's up with that?

Susan H. 

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From DWUTKA at marlow.com  Fri Nov 10 17:29:34 2006
From: DWUTKA at marlow.com (DWUTKA at marlow.com)
Date: Fri, 10 Nov 2006 17:29:34 -0600
Subject: [AccessD] OT: Where is everybody? Friday humor to wake you up
Message-ID: <17724746D360394AA3BFE5B8D40A9C1B0139B698@MARLOW_MAIN2.marlow.com>

LOL.  There are ways!

Drew

-----Original Message-----
From: Susan Harkins [mailto:ssharkins at setel.com] 
Sent: Friday, November 10, 2006 5:22 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: Re: [AccessD] OT: Where is everybody? Friday humor to wake you up

 
Is It Possible To Urinate Using The Technique Of Lifting The Seat and
Avoiding The Floor, Walls and Nearby Bathtub? --- Group Practice. Meets 4
weeks, Saturday 10:00 PM for 2 hours.  

========I really don't suggest this -- how else are they gonna mark their
territory? 

Susan H. 

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From ssharkins at setel.com  Fri Nov 10 17:42:06 2006
From: ssharkins at setel.com (Susan Harkins)
Date: Fri, 10 Nov 2006 18:42:06 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] OT: Friday humor
In-Reply-To: <17724746D360394AA3BFE5B8D40A9C1B0139B697@MARLOW_MAIN2.marlow.com>
Message-ID: <001801c70521$d5a812d0$e6b82ad1@SUSANONE>

Bill's card always works. After they deny mine, he comes behind me and
swipes his and it goes through every time. 

Susan H. 

Bad connection to the authorizing agent.  Ask the management if other people
have problems with their cards.




From cfoust at infostatsystems.com  Fri Nov 10 17:48:15 2006
From: cfoust at infostatsystems.com (Charlotte Foust)
Date: Fri, 10 Nov 2006 15:48:15 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] OT: Friday humor
In-Reply-To: <001601c7051f$10e92b70$e6b82ad1@SUSANONE>
Message-ID: <F55048AF7E974F429BB24597D7355EEA178396@INFOSERVER04.infostat.local>

In my case, it's always meant the card was about to give up the ghost
and I had found the one reader that realized it early.  Get a
replacement BEFORE it stops working everywhere.

Charlotte 

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Susan Harkins
Sent: Friday, November 10, 2006 3:22 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: Re: [AccessD] OT: Friday humor

 

Swiped Out: An ATM or credit card that has been rendered useless because
the magnetic strip is worn away from extensive use.

=======Speaking of... I have trouble using my debit card at one Wal-mart
store -- just one Wal-mart and no place else, not even other Wal-marts.
What's up with that?

Susan H. 

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From wdhindman at dejpolsystems.com  Fri Nov 10 18:02:41 2006
From: wdhindman at dejpolsystems.com (William Hindman)
Date: Fri, 10 Nov 2006 19:02:41 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] OT: Friday humor
References: <001601c7051f$10e92b70$e6b82ad1@SUSANONE>
Message-ID: <007301c70524$ca9878a0$3e3de844@50NM721>

...karma?

William Hindman
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Susan Harkins" <ssharkins at setel.com>
To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'" 
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Friday, November 10, 2006 6:22 PM
Subject: Re: [AccessD] OT: Friday humor


>
>
> Swiped Out: An ATM or credit card that has been rendered useless because 
> the
> magnetic strip is worn away from extensive use.
>
> =======Speaking of... I have trouble using my debit card at one Wal-mart
> store -- just one Wal-mart and no place else, not even other Wal-marts.
> What's up with that?
>
> Susan H.
>
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From wdhindman at dejpolsystems.com  Fri Nov 10 18:04:02 2006
From: wdhindman at dejpolsystems.com (William Hindman)
Date: Fri, 10 Nov 2006 19:04:02 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] OT: Where is everybody? Friday humor to wake you up
References: <17724746D360394AA3BFE5B8D40A9C1B0139B698@MARLOW_MAIN2.marlow.com>
Message-ID: <007401c70524$e5b51580$3e3de844@50NM721>

...a helping hand is beneficial :)

William Hindman

----- Original Message ----- 
From: <DWUTKA at marlow.com>
To: <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Friday, November 10, 2006 6:29 PM
Subject: Re: [AccessD] OT: Where is everybody? Friday humor to wake you up


> LOL.  There are ways!
>
> Drew
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Susan Harkins [mailto:ssharkins at setel.com]
> Sent: Friday, November 10, 2006 5:22 PM
> To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] OT: Where is everybody? Friday humor to wake you up
>
>
> Is It Possible To Urinate Using The Technique Of Lifting The Seat and
> Avoiding The Floor, Walls and Nearby Bathtub? --- Group Practice. Meets 4
> weeks, Saturday 10:00 PM for 2 hours.
>
> ========I really don't suggest this -- how else are they gonna mark their
> territory?
>
> Susan H.
>
> -- 
> AccessD mailing list
> AccessD at databaseadvisors.com
> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd
> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com
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> 





From wdhindman at dejpolsystems.com  Fri Nov 10 18:04:27 2006
From: wdhindman at dejpolsystems.com (William Hindman)
Date: Fri, 10 Nov 2006 19:04:27 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] OT: Friday humor
References: <001801c70521$d5a812d0$e6b82ad1@SUSANONE>
Message-ID: <007a01c70524$f4d21a40$3e3de844@50NM721>

...karma :)

William Hindman
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Susan Harkins" <ssharkins at setel.com>
To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'" 
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Friday, November 10, 2006 6:42 PM
Subject: Re: [AccessD] OT: Friday humor


> Bill's card always works. After they deny mine, he comes behind me and
> swipes his and it goes through every time.
>
> Susan H.
>
> Bad connection to the authorizing agent.  Ask the management if other 
> people
> have problems with their cards.
>
>
> -- 
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> 





From ssharkins at setel.com  Sat Nov 11 09:25:46 2006
From: ssharkins at setel.com (Susan Harkins)
Date: Sat, 11 Nov 2006 10:25:46 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] OT: Friday humor
In-Reply-To: <F55048AF7E974F429BB24597D7355EEA178396@INFOSERVER04.infostat.local>
Message-ID: <001c01c705a5$aa887200$e6b82ad1@SUSANONE>

Well, that's interesting. Thing is, the card is brand new. :( But, that
doesn't mean it isn't defective -- that could be true. 

Susan H. 

In my case, it's always meant the card was about to give up the ghost and I
had found the one reader that realized it early.  Get a replacement BEFORE
it stops working everywhere.



From lembit.dbamail at t-online.de  Sat Nov 11 12:22:43 2006
From: lembit.dbamail at t-online.de (Lembit Soobik)
Date: Sat, 11 Nov 2006 19:22:43 +0100
Subject: [AccessD] XP-mde on A2003?
References: <6A6AA9DF57E4F046BDA1E273BDDB67727DE0F0@corp-es01.fleetpride.com>
	<6.2.3.4.0.20061110171510.03623f30@bsas-mail>
Message-ID: <005301c705be$6155b340$1800a8c0@s1800>

Hi everyone,
I have been asked to write an Access db for a friend.
I have Access-XP (2002) on my machine
he has Access 2003

can he run an mde from me on his machine?

thank you 
Lembit



From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com  Sat Nov 11 13:47:17 2006
From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (JWColby)
Date: Sat, 11 Nov 2006 14:47:17 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] XP-mde on A2003?
In-Reply-To: <005301c705be$6155b340$1800a8c0@s1800>
Message-ID: <000801c705ca$3285a320$d60f390a@m6805>

Yep, AFAIK. 


John W. Colby
Colby Consulting
www.ColbyConsulting.com

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Lembit Soobik
Sent: Saturday, November 11, 2006 1:23 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: [AccessD] XP-mde on A2003?

Hi everyone,
I have been asked to write an Access db for a friend.
I have Access-XP (2002) on my machine
he has Access 2003

can he run an mde from me on his machine?

thank you
Lembit

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From bchacc at san.rr.com  Sat Nov 11 16:16:22 2006
From: bchacc at san.rr.com (Beach Access Software)
Date: Sat, 11 Nov 2006 14:16:22 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] XP-mde on A2003?
In-Reply-To: <000801c705ca$3285a320$d60f390a@m6805>
Message-ID: <001701c705df$0583ad30$6701a8c0@HAL9005>

But can you run a 2003 mde on an A2K2 machine or an A2K machine?

Rocky


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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
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Sent: Saturday, November 11, 2006 11:47 AM
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Subject: Re: [AccessD] XP-mde on A2003?

Yep, AFAIK. 


John W. Colby
Colby Consulting
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Sent: Saturday, November 11, 2006 1:23 PM
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Subject: [AccessD] XP-mde on A2003?

Hi everyone,
I have been asked to write an Access db for a friend.
I have Access-XP (2002) on my machine
he has Access 2003

can he run an mde from me on his machine?

thank you
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From wdhindman at dejpolsystems.com  Sat Nov 11 16:29:37 2006
From: wdhindman at dejpolsystems.com (William Hindman)
Date: Sat, 11 Nov 2006 17:29:37 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] XP-mde on A2003?
References: <001701c705df$0583ad30$6701a8c0@HAL9005>
Message-ID: <000d01c705e0$dfac6960$3e3de844@50NM721>

...yes, as long as you've saved it in A2K format.

William Hindman

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To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'" 
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Saturday, November 11, 2006 5:16 PM
Subject: Re: [AccessD] XP-mde on A2003?


> But can you run a 2003 mde on an A2K2 machine or an A2K machine?
>
> Rocky
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of JWColby
> Sent: Saturday, November 11, 2006 11:47 AM
> To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] XP-mde on A2003?
>
> Yep, AFAIK.
>
>
> John W. Colby
> Colby Consulting
> www.ColbyConsulting.com
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Lembit Soobik
> Sent: Saturday, November 11, 2006 1:23 PM
> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> Subject: [AccessD] XP-mde on A2003?
>
> Hi everyone,
> I have been asked to write an Access db for a friend.
> I have Access-XP (2002) on my machine
> he has Access 2003
>
> can he run an mde from me on his machine?
>
> thank you
> Lembit
>
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From john at winhaven.net  Sat Nov 11 19:13:25 2006
From: john at winhaven.net (John Bartow)
Date: Sat, 11 Nov 2006 19:13:25 -0600
Subject: [AccessD] XP-mde on A2003?
In-Reply-To: <000d01c705e0$dfac6960$3e3de844@50NM721>
Message-ID: <200611120113.kAC1DQq16748@databaseadvisors.com>

A2k3 can't make an A2k mde. You have to have it in A2k3 format to make an
mde.

I tried opening an A2k3 mde with A2k on a machine with A2k and A2k3
installed and it does not work - unrecognized format.

John B.

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[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of William Hindman
Sent: Saturday, November 11, 2006 4:30 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] XP-mde on A2003?

...yes, as long as you've saved it in A2K format.

William Hindman

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From: "Beach Access Software" <bchacc at san.rr.com>
To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'" 
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Saturday, November 11, 2006 5:16 PM
Subject: Re: [AccessD] XP-mde on A2003?


> But can you run a 2003 mde on an A2K2 machine or an A2K machine?
>
> Rocky
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of JWColby
> Sent: Saturday, November 11, 2006 11:47 AM
> To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] XP-mde on A2003?
>
> Yep, AFAIK.
>
>
> John W. Colby
> Colby Consulting
> www.ColbyConsulting.com
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Lembit Soobik
> Sent: Saturday, November 11, 2006 1:23 PM
> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> Subject: [AccessD] XP-mde on A2003?
>
> Hi everyone,
> I have been asked to write an Access db for a friend.
> I have Access-XP (2002) on my machine
> he has Access 2003
>
> can he run an mde from me on his machine?
>
> thank you
> Lembit
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From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com  Sat Nov 11 20:21:08 2006
From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (JWColby)
Date: Sat, 11 Nov 2006 21:21:08 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] XP-mde on A2003?
In-Reply-To: <001701c705df$0583ad30$6701a8c0@HAL9005>
Message-ID: <001301c70601$37a877b0$d60f390a@m6805>

No, or rather it depends.  If you use an A2K container, and only use
constructs that are native to A2K then yes.  Maybe.  There is an update to
VBA after A2K that you will have to deal with.

John W. Colby
Colby Consulting
www.ColbyConsulting.com

-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Beach Access
Software
Sent: Saturday, November 11, 2006 5:16 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: Re: [AccessD] XP-mde on A2003?

But can you run a 2003 mde on an A2K2 machine or an A2K machine?

Rocky


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Sent: Saturday, November 11, 2006 11:47 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: Re: [AccessD] XP-mde on A2003?

Yep, AFAIK. 


John W. Colby
Colby Consulting
www.ColbyConsulting.com

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Sent: Saturday, November 11, 2006 1:23 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: [AccessD] XP-mde on A2003?

Hi everyone,
I have been asked to write an Access db for a friend.
I have Access-XP (2002) on my machine
he has Access 2003

can he run an mde from me on his machine?

thank you
Lembit

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From wdhindman at dejpolsystems.com  Sat Nov 11 20:45:16 2006
From: wdhindman at dejpolsystems.com (William Hindman)
Date: Sat, 11 Nov 2006 21:45:16 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] XP-mde on A2003?
References: <200611120113.kAC1DQq16748@databaseadvisors.com>
Message-ID: <006d01c70604$9670f710$3e3de844@50NM721>

John

...have you tried using late binding and ensuring the paths are the same?

William Hindman

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "John Bartow" <john at winhaven.net>
To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'" 
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Saturday, November 11, 2006 8:13 PM
Subject: Re: [AccessD] XP-mde on A2003?


> A2k3 can't make an A2k mde. You have to have it in A2k3 format to make an
> mde.
>
> I tried opening an A2k3 mde with A2k on a machine with A2k and A2k3
> installed and it does not work - unrecognized format.
>
> John B.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of William Hindman
> Sent: Saturday, November 11, 2006 4:30 PM
> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] XP-mde on A2003?
>
> ...yes, as long as you've saved it in A2K format.
>
> William Hindman
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Beach Access Software" <bchacc at san.rr.com>
> To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'"
> <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
> Sent: Saturday, November 11, 2006 5:16 PM
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] XP-mde on A2003?
>
>
>> But can you run a 2003 mde on an A2K2 machine or an A2K machine?
>>
>> Rocky
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of JWColby
>> Sent: Saturday, November 11, 2006 11:47 AM
>> To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
>> Subject: Re: [AccessD] XP-mde on A2003?
>>
>> Yep, AFAIK.
>>
>>
>> John W. Colby
>> Colby Consulting
>> www.ColbyConsulting.com
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Lembit Soobik
>> Sent: Saturday, November 11, 2006 1:23 PM
>> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
>> Subject: [AccessD] XP-mde on A2003?
>>
>> Hi everyone,
>> I have been asked to write an Access db for a friend.
>> I have Access-XP (2002) on my machine
>> he has Access 2003
>>
>> can he run an mde from me on his machine?
>>
>> thank you
>> Lembit
>>
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From john at winhaven.net  Sun Nov 12 00:27:29 2006
From: john at winhaven.net (John Bartow)
Date: Sun, 12 Nov 2006 00:27:29 -0600
Subject: [AccessD] XP-mde on A2003?
In-Reply-To: <006d01c70604$9670f710$3e3de844@50NM721>
Message-ID: <200611120627.kAC6RRq12802@databaseadvisors.com>

William,
To test this again, I created a new db db1.mdb
	created (only) one form with a label that says "TEST" and no module
	made it the startup form
created an mde from db1.mdb - error "you cannot create a Microsoft Access
ADE or MDE from a database saved in Microsoft Access 2000 format"
converted db1.mdb to a2k3 - db2.mdb
created an mde from db2.mdb - db2.mde

opened db1.mdb in a2k3 - worked
opened db2.mdb with a2k3 - worked
opened db2.mde with a2k3 - worked

opened db1.mdb in a2k - worked
opened db2.mdb with a2k and get error "this database is in an unrecognized
format"
opened db2.mde with a2k and get error "this database is in an unrecognized
format"

I just reinstalled from scratch a couple of weeks ago so I'd be interested
to know if you can do this same thing successfully.

John B.

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Sent: Saturday, November 11, 2006 8:45 PM
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Subject: Re: [AccessD] XP-mde on A2003?

John

...have you tried using late binding and ensuring the paths are the same?

William Hindman



From lembit.dbamail at t-online.de  Sun Nov 12 04:36:57 2006
From: lembit.dbamail at t-online.de (Lembit Soobik)
Date: Sun, 12 Nov 2006 11:36:57 +0100
Subject: [AccessD] XP-mde on A2003?
References: <000801c705ca$3285a320$d60f390a@m6805>
Message-ID: <002901c70646$7ab07310$1800a8c0@s1800>

thanks, John

btw, did you get my uP mails? and do they help?

Lembit
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To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'" 
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Sent: Saturday, November 11, 2006 8:47 PM
Subject: Re: [AccessD] XP-mde on A2003?


> Yep, AFAIK.
>
>
> John W. Colby
> Colby Consulting
> www.ColbyConsulting.com
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Lembit Soobik
> Sent: Saturday, November 11, 2006 1:23 PM
> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> Subject: [AccessD] XP-mde on A2003?
>
> Hi everyone,
> I have been asked to write an Access db for a friend.
> I have Access-XP (2002) on my machine
> he has Access 2003
>
> can he run an mde from me on his machine?
>
> thank you
> Lembit
>
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From lembit.dbamail at t-online.de  Sun Nov 12 04:45:24 2006
From: lembit.dbamail at t-online.de (Lembit Soobik)
Date: Sun, 12 Nov 2006 11:45:24 +0100
Subject: [AccessD] XP-mde on A2003?
References: <001701c705df$0583ad30$6701a8c0@HAL9005>
	<000d01c705e0$dfac6960$3e3de844@50NM721>
Message-ID: <003401c70647$a914b620$1800a8c0@s1800>

hmm, William, is this an answer to Rocky's question or to mine?
you mean I have to build the database in A2000 format and then convert it to 
mde, and then it will run under A2003?

thanks
Lembit

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From: "William Hindman" <wdhindman at dejpolsystems.com>
To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving" 
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Saturday, November 11, 2006 11:29 PM
Subject: Re: [AccessD] XP-mde on A2003?


> ...yes, as long as you've saved it in A2K format.
>
> William Hindman
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Beach Access Software" <bchacc at san.rr.com>
> To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'"
> <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
> Sent: Saturday, November 11, 2006 5:16 PM
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] XP-mde on A2003?
>
>
>> But can you run a 2003 mde on an A2K2 machine or an A2K machine?
>>
>> Rocky
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of JWColby
>> Sent: Saturday, November 11, 2006 11:47 AM
>> To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
>> Subject: Re: [AccessD] XP-mde on A2003?
>>
>> Yep, AFAIK.
>>
>>
>> John W. Colby
>> Colby Consulting
>> www.ColbyConsulting.com
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Lembit Soobik
>> Sent: Saturday, November 11, 2006 1:23 PM
>> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
>> Subject: [AccessD] XP-mde on A2003?
>>
>> Hi everyone,
>> I have been asked to write an Access db for a friend.
>> I have Access-XP (2002) on my machine
>> he has Access 2003
>>
>> can he run an mde from me on his machine?
>>
>> thank you
>> Lembit
>>
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From prodevmg at yahoo.com  Sun Nov 12 06:37:48 2006
From: prodevmg at yahoo.com (Lonnie Johnson)
Date: Sun, 12 Nov 2006 04:37:48 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [AccessD] Moving items in a listbox with the mouse
Message-ID: <20061112123748.7261.qmail@web33101.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Does anyone know of any method, code or control that I could use to move order of the items within a list box with a mouse.

So if I have three things in a list box 

CAT
DOG
BIRD

I would like to grab DOG with my mouse and move it up above CAT.

Is that possible?

Thanks.
 








May God bless you beyond your imagination!
Lonnie Johnson
ProDev, Professional Development of MS Access Databases
Visit me at ==> http://www.prodev.us



From wdhindman at dejpolsystems.com  Sun Nov 12 07:44:52 2006
From: wdhindman at dejpolsystems.com (William Hindman)
Date: Sun, 12 Nov 2006 08:44:52 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] XP-mde on A2003?
References: <001701c705df$0583ad30$6701a8c0@HAL9005><000d01c705e0$dfac6960$3e3de844@50NM721>
	<003401c70647$a914b620$1800a8c0@s1800>
Message-ID: <004201c70660$bb5315c0$3e3de844@50NM721>

Lembit

...A2K mdes should run fine in A2K3 as long as the paths are the same 
...afaik mdes hardcode the path to the executable and the default install 
puts A2K and A2K3 in different paths.

William Hindman

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To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving" 
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Sunday, November 12, 2006 5:45 AM
Subject: Re: [AccessD] XP-mde on A2003?


> hmm, William, is this an answer to Rocky's question or to mine?
> you mean I have to build the database in A2000 format and then convert it 
> to
> mde, and then it will run under A2003?
>
> thanks
> Lembit
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "William Hindman" <wdhindman at dejpolsystems.com>
> To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving"
> <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
> Sent: Saturday, November 11, 2006 11:29 PM
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] XP-mde on A2003?
>
>
>> ...yes, as long as you've saved it in A2K format.
>>
>> William Hindman
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Beach Access Software" <bchacc at san.rr.com>
>> To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'"
>> <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
>> Sent: Saturday, November 11, 2006 5:16 PM
>> Subject: Re: [AccessD] XP-mde on A2003?
>>
>>
>>> But can you run a 2003 mde on an A2K2 machine or an A2K machine?
>>>
>>> Rocky
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>>> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of JWColby
>>> Sent: Saturday, November 11, 2006 11:47 AM
>>> To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
>>> Subject: Re: [AccessD] XP-mde on A2003?
>>>
>>> Yep, AFAIK.
>>>
>>>
>>> John W. Colby
>>> Colby Consulting
>>> www.ColbyConsulting.com
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>>> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Lembit Soobik
>>> Sent: Saturday, November 11, 2006 1:23 PM
>>> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
>>> Subject: [AccessD] XP-mde on A2003?
>>>
>>> Hi everyone,
>>> I have been asked to write an Access db for a friend.
>>> I have Access-XP (2002) on my machine
>>> he has Access 2003
>>>
>>> can he run an mde from me on his machine?
>>>
>>> thank you
>>> Lembit
>>>
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From shamil at users.mns.ru  Sun Nov 12 07:48:07 2006
From: shamil at users.mns.ru (Shamil Salakhetdinov)
Date: Sun, 12 Nov 2006 16:48:07 +0300
Subject: [AccessD] IATA Airport codes to import into MS Access database
Message-ID: <000001c70661$2f8295b0$6401a8c0@nant>

Hi All,

Is there somewhere a file with IATA Airport codes ready to be imported into
MS Access database?

I mean Airport codes like these:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_airports_by_IATA_code:_L


Thank you.

--
Shamil
 



From wdhindman at dejpolsystems.com  Sun Nov 12 07:51:55 2006
From: wdhindman at dejpolsystems.com (William Hindman)
Date: Sun, 12 Nov 2006 08:51:55 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Moving items in a listbox with the mouse
References: <20061112123748.7261.qmail@web33101.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <004801c70661$b7fe9e20$3e3de844@50NM721>

...if you are working with a full Access install, then www.lebans.com has a 
list box with drag and drop capability.

William Hindman

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Lonnie Johnson" <prodevmg at yahoo.com>
To: "AccessD solving'" <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Sunday, November 12, 2006 7:37 AM
Subject: [AccessD] Moving items in a listbox with the mouse


> Does anyone know of any method, code or control that I could use to move 
> order of the items within a list box with a mouse.
>
> So if I have three things in a list box
>
> CAT
> DOG
> BIRD
>
> I would like to grab DOG with my mouse and move it up above CAT.
>
> Is that possible?
>
> Thanks.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> May God bless you beyond your imagination!
> Lonnie Johnson
> ProDev, Professional Development of MS Access Databases
> Visit me at ==> http://www.prodev.us
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From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com  Sun Nov 12 07:52:27 2006
From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (JWColby)
Date: Sun, 12 Nov 2006 08:52:27 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] XP-mde on A2003?
In-Reply-To: <004201c70660$bb5315c0$3e3de844@50NM721>
Message-ID: <000301c70661$cad5ebc0$d60f390a@m6805>

I think the MDE has to be MADE using A2K, and will then RUN under A2K3 


John W. Colby
Colby Consulting
www.ColbyConsulting.com

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of William Hindman
Sent: Sunday, November 12, 2006 8:45 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] XP-mde on A2003?

Lembit

...A2K mdes should run fine in A2K3 as long as the paths are the same
...afaik mdes hardcode the path to the executable and the default install
puts A2K and A2K3 in different paths.

William Hindman

----- Original Message -----
From: "Lembit Soobik" <lembit.dbamail at t-online.de>
To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving" 
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Sunday, November 12, 2006 5:45 AM
Subject: Re: [AccessD] XP-mde on A2003?


> hmm, William, is this an answer to Rocky's question or to mine?
> you mean I have to build the database in A2000 format and then convert it 
> to
> mde, and then it will run under A2003?
>
> thanks
> Lembit
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "William Hindman" <wdhindman at dejpolsystems.com>
> To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving"
> <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
> Sent: Saturday, November 11, 2006 11:29 PM
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] XP-mde on A2003?
>
>
>> ...yes, as long as you've saved it in A2K format.
>>
>> William Hindman
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Beach Access Software" <bchacc at san.rr.com>
>> To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'"
>> <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
>> Sent: Saturday, November 11, 2006 5:16 PM
>> Subject: Re: [AccessD] XP-mde on A2003?
>>
>>
>>> But can you run a 2003 mde on an A2K2 machine or an A2K machine?
>>>
>>> Rocky
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>>> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of JWColby
>>> Sent: Saturday, November 11, 2006 11:47 AM
>>> To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
>>> Subject: Re: [AccessD] XP-mde on A2003?
>>>
>>> Yep, AFAIK.
>>>
>>>
>>> John W. Colby
>>> Colby Consulting
>>> www.ColbyConsulting.com
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>>> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Lembit Soobik
>>> Sent: Saturday, November 11, 2006 1:23 PM
>>> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
>>> Subject: [AccessD] XP-mde on A2003?
>>>
>>> Hi everyone,
>>> I have been asked to write an Access db for a friend.
>>> I have Access-XP (2002) on my machine
>>> he has Access 2003
>>>
>>> can he run an mde from me on his machine?
>>>
>>> thank you
>>> Lembit
>>>
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From lembit.dbamail at t-online.de  Sun Nov 12 08:50:42 2006
From: lembit.dbamail at t-online.de (Lembit Soobik)
Date: Sun, 12 Nov 2006 15:50:42 +0100
Subject: [AccessD] XP-mde on A2003?
References: <001701c705df$0583ad30$6701a8c0@HAL9005><000d01c705e0$dfac6960$3e3de844@50NM721><003401c70647$a914b620$1800a8c0@s1800>
	<004201c70660$bb5315c0$3e3de844@50NM721>
Message-ID: <002001c70669$ed8b2380$1800a8c0@s1800>

thank you, William

Lembit

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "William Hindman" <wdhindman at dejpolsystems.com>
To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving" 
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Sunday, November 12, 2006 2:44 PM
Subject: Re: [AccessD] XP-mde on A2003?


> Lembit
>
> ...A2K mdes should run fine in A2K3 as long as the paths are the same
> ...afaik mdes hardcode the path to the executable and the default install
> puts A2K and A2K3 in different paths.
>
> William Hindman
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Lembit Soobik" <lembit.dbamail at t-online.de>
> To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving"
> <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
> Sent: Sunday, November 12, 2006 5:45 AM
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] XP-mde on A2003?
>
>
>> hmm, William, is this an answer to Rocky's question or to mine?
>> you mean I have to build the database in A2000 format and then convert it
>> to
>> mde, and then it will run under A2003?
>>
>> thanks
>> Lembit
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "William Hindman" <wdhindman at dejpolsystems.com>
>> To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving"
>> <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
>> Sent: Saturday, November 11, 2006 11:29 PM
>> Subject: Re: [AccessD] XP-mde on A2003?
>>
>>
>>> ...yes, as long as you've saved it in A2K format.
>>>
>>> William Hindman
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>> From: "Beach Access Software" <bchacc at san.rr.com>
>>> To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'"
>>> <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
>>> Sent: Saturday, November 11, 2006 5:16 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [AccessD] XP-mde on A2003?
>>>
>>>
>>>> But can you run a 2003 mde on an A2K2 machine or an A2K machine?
>>>>
>>>> Rocky
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>>>> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of JWColby
>>>> Sent: Saturday, November 11, 2006 11:47 AM
>>>> To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
>>>> Subject: Re: [AccessD] XP-mde on A2003?
>>>>
>>>> Yep, AFAIK.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> John W. Colby
>>>> Colby Consulting
>>>> www.ColbyConsulting.com
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>>>> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Lembit 
>>>> Soobik
>>>> Sent: Saturday, November 11, 2006 1:23 PM
>>>> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
>>>> Subject: [AccessD] XP-mde on A2003?
>>>>
>>>> Hi everyone,
>>>> I have been asked to write an Access db for a friend.
>>>> I have Access-XP (2002) on my machine
>>>> he has Access 2003
>>>>
>>>> can he run an mde from me on his machine?
>>>>
>>>> thank you
>>>> Lembit
>>>>
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From lembit.dbamail at t-online.de  Sun Nov 12 08:51:09 2006
From: lembit.dbamail at t-online.de (Lembit Soobik)
Date: Sun, 12 Nov 2006 15:51:09 +0100
Subject: [AccessD] XP-mde on A2003?
References: <000301c70661$cad5ebc0$d60f390a@m6805>
Message-ID: <002501c70669$fdaee9e0$1800a8c0@s1800>

thank you, John, will try it

Lembit

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "JWColby" <jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com>
To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'" 
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Sunday, November 12, 2006 2:52 PM
Subject: Re: [AccessD] XP-mde on A2003?


>I think the MDE has to be MADE using A2K, and will then RUN under A2K3
>
>
> John W. Colby
> Colby Consulting
> www.ColbyConsulting.com
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of William Hindman
> Sent: Sunday, November 12, 2006 8:45 AM
> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] XP-mde on A2003?
>
> Lembit
>
> ...A2K mdes should run fine in A2K3 as long as the paths are the same
> ...afaik mdes hardcode the path to the executable and the default install
> puts A2K and A2K3 in different paths.
>
> William Hindman
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Lembit Soobik" <lembit.dbamail at t-online.de>
> To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving"
> <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
> Sent: Sunday, November 12, 2006 5:45 AM
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] XP-mde on A2003?
>
>
>> hmm, William, is this an answer to Rocky's question or to mine?
>> you mean I have to build the database in A2000 format and then convert it
>> to
>> mde, and then it will run under A2003?
>>
>> thanks
>> Lembit
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "William Hindman" <wdhindman at dejpolsystems.com>
>> To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving"
>> <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
>> Sent: Saturday, November 11, 2006 11:29 PM
>> Subject: Re: [AccessD] XP-mde on A2003?
>>
>>
>>> ...yes, as long as you've saved it in A2K format.
>>>
>>> William Hindman
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>> From: "Beach Access Software" <bchacc at san.rr.com>
>>> To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'"
>>> <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
>>> Sent: Saturday, November 11, 2006 5:16 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [AccessD] XP-mde on A2003?
>>>
>>>
>>>> But can you run a 2003 mde on an A2K2 machine or an A2K machine?
>>>>
>>>> Rocky
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>>>> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of JWColby
>>>> Sent: Saturday, November 11, 2006 11:47 AM
>>>> To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
>>>> Subject: Re: [AccessD] XP-mde on A2003?
>>>>
>>>> Yep, AFAIK.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> John W. Colby
>>>> Colby Consulting
>>>> www.ColbyConsulting.com
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>>>> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Lembit 
>>>> Soobik
>>>> Sent: Saturday, November 11, 2006 1:23 PM
>>>> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
>>>> Subject: [AccessD] XP-mde on A2003?
>>>>
>>>> Hi everyone,
>>>> I have been asked to write an Access db for a friend.
>>>> I have Access-XP (2002) on my machine
>>>> he has Access 2003
>>>>
>>>> can he run an mde from me on his machine?
>>>>
>>>> thank you
>>>> Lembit
>>>>
>>>> --
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From artful at rogers.com  Sun Nov 12 09:48:37 2006
From: artful at rogers.com (artful at rogers.com)
Date: Sun, 12 Nov 2006 07:48:37 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [AccessD] IATA Airport codes to import into MS Access database
Message-ID: <20061112154838.25114.qmail@web88210.mail.re2.yahoo.com>

I grabbed all the data from an airport list (which was subdivided by initial character) and I'm sending you off-list the MDB. If anyone else wants the list, pvt me and I will send it to you as well.

Arthur

----- Original Message ----
From: Shamil Salakhetdinov <shamil at users.mns.ru>
To: Access-D <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Sunday, November 12, 2006 8:48:07 AM
Subject: [AccessD] IATA Airport codes to import into MS Access database

Hi All,

Is there somewhere a file with IATA Airport codes ready to be imported into
MS Access database?

I mean Airport codes like these:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_airports_by_IATA_code:_L


Thank you.

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From bchacc at san.rr.com  Sun Nov 12 10:06:17 2006
From: bchacc at san.rr.com (Beach Access Software)
Date: Sun, 12 Nov 2006 08:06:17 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] XP-mde on A2003?
In-Reply-To: <000d01c705e0$dfac6960$3e3de844@50NM721>
Message-ID: <001301c70674$7c960d10$6701a8c0@HAL9005>

But I don't think A2K3 will compile and mde from an A2K format mdb.

Rocky


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of William Hindman
Sent: Saturday, November 11, 2006 2:30 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] XP-mde on A2003?

...yes, as long as you've saved it in A2K format.

William Hindman

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Beach Access Software" <bchacc at san.rr.com>
To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'" 
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Saturday, November 11, 2006 5:16 PM
Subject: Re: [AccessD] XP-mde on A2003?


> But can you run a 2003 mde on an A2K2 machine or an A2K machine?
>
> Rocky
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of JWColby
> Sent: Saturday, November 11, 2006 11:47 AM
> To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] XP-mde on A2003?
>
> Yep, AFAIK.
>
>
> John W. Colby
> Colby Consulting
> www.ColbyConsulting.com
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Lembit Soobik
> Sent: Saturday, November 11, 2006 1:23 PM
> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> Subject: [AccessD] XP-mde on A2003?
>
> Hi everyone,
> I have been asked to write an Access db for a friend.
> I have Access-XP (2002) on my machine
> he has Access 2003
>
> can he run an mde from me on his machine?
>
> thank you
> Lembit
>
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From bchacc at san.rr.com  Sun Nov 12 10:11:45 2006
From: bchacc at san.rr.com (Beach Access Software)
Date: Sun, 12 Nov 2006 08:11:45 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] Moving items in a listbox with the mouse
In-Reply-To: <20061112123748.7261.qmail@web33101.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <001401c70675$403a95b0$6701a8c0@HAL9005>

I've done this but only with a couple of command buttons labeled 'Move Up'
and 'Move Down' outside the list box.  Worked pretty well, though with some
brute force code, IIRC.  It was a long time ago but I can try to dig it out
if you want to go in that direction.

Rocky


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Lonnie Johnson
Sent: Sunday, November 12, 2006 4:38 AM
To: AccessD solving'
Subject: [AccessD] Moving items in a listbox with the mouse

Does anyone know of any method, code or control that I could use to move
order of the items within a list box with a mouse.

So if I have three things in a list box 

CAT
DOG
BIRD

I would like to grab DOG with my mouse and move it up above CAT.

Is that possible?

Thanks.
 








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ProDev, Professional Development of MS Access Databases
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From wdhindman at dejpolsystems.com  Sun Nov 12 10:28:34 2006
From: wdhindman at dejpolsystems.com (William Hindman)
Date: Sun, 12 Nov 2006 11:28:34 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] IATA Airport codes to import into MS Access database
References: <20061112154838.25114.qmail@web88210.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <002901c70677$99b1f500$3e3de844@50NM721>

...why not post it on dba ...I've got an updated lat/long/post codes with US 
and many international that I'll put up there soon as well ...its a rpita to 
find high quality data lists that really provide what you need

William Hindman

----- Original Message ----- 
From: <artful at rogers.com>
To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving" 
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Sunday, November 12, 2006 10:48 AM
Subject: Re: [AccessD] IATA Airport codes to import into MS Access database


>I grabbed all the data from an airport list (which was subdivided by 
>initial character) and I'm sending you off-list the MDB. If anyone else 
>wants the list, pvt me and I will send it to you as well.
>
> Arthur
>
> ----- Original Message ----
> From: Shamil Salakhetdinov <shamil at users.mns.ru>
> To: Access-D <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
> Sent: Sunday, November 12, 2006 8:48:07 AM
> Subject: [AccessD] IATA Airport codes to import into MS Access database
>
> Hi All,
>
> Is there somewhere a file with IATA Airport codes ready to be imported 
> into
> MS Access database?
>
> I mean Airport codes like these:
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_airports_by_IATA_code:_L
>
>
> Thank you.
>
> --
> Shamil
>
>
> -- 
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From gustav at cactus.dk  Sun Nov 12 10:45:12 2006
From: gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Sun, 12 Nov 2006 17:45:12 +0100
Subject: [AccessD] IATA Airport codes to import into MS Access	database
Message-ID: <s5575dbc.036@cactus.dk>

Hi William and Shamil

Here's an alternative:

http://crashpads.com/airport_codes/index.cfm

Don't fill in any field, just press the button to retrieve the full list - which can be saved as is to a text file.

/gustav

>>> wdhindman at dejpolsystems.com 12-11-06 17:28 >>>
...why not post it on dba ...I've got an updated lat/long/post codes with US 
and many international that I'll put up there soon as well ...its a rpita to 
find high quality data lists that really provide what you need

William Hindman

----- Original Message ----- 
From: <artful at rogers.com>
To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving" 
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Sunday, November 12, 2006 10:48 AM
Subject: Re: [AccessD] IATA Airport codes to import into MS Access database


>I grabbed all the data from an airport list (which was subdivided by 
>initial character) and I'm sending you off-list the MDB. If anyone else 
>wants the list, pvt me and I will send it to you as well.
>
> Arthur
>
> ----- Original Message ----
> From: Shamil Salakhetdinov <shamil at users.mns.ru>
> To: Access-D <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
> Sent: Sunday, November 12, 2006 8:48:07 AM
> Subject: [AccessD] IATA Airport codes to import into MS Access database
>
> Hi All,
>
> Is there somewhere a file with IATA Airport codes ready to be imported 
> into
> MS Access database?
>
> I mean Airport codes like these:
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_airports_by_IATA_code:_L
>
>
> Thank you.
>
> --
> Shamil


From wdhindman at dejpolsystems.com  Sun Nov 12 12:47:07 2006
From: wdhindman at dejpolsystems.com (William Hindman)
Date: Sun, 12 Nov 2006 13:47:07 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] IATA Airport codes to import into MS Access	database
References: <s5575dbc.036@cactus.dk>
Message-ID: <000301c7068a$f55d62a0$3e3de844@50NM721>

...tks

William Hindman

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Gustav Brock" <gustav at cactus.dk>
To: <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Sunday, November 12, 2006 11:45 AM
Subject: Re: [AccessD] IATA Airport codes to import into MS Access database


> Hi William and Shamil
>
> Here's an alternative:
>
> http://crashpads.com/airport_codes/index.cfm
>
> Don't fill in any field, just press the button to retrieve the full list - 
> which can be saved as is to a text file.
>
> /gustav
>
>>>> wdhindman at dejpolsystems.com 12-11-06 17:28 >>>
> ...why not post it on dba ...I've got an updated lat/long/post codes with 
> US
> and many international that I'll put up there soon as well ...its a rpita 
> to
> find high quality data lists that really provide what you need
>
> William Hindman
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: <artful at rogers.com>
> To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving"
> <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
> Sent: Sunday, November 12, 2006 10:48 AM
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] IATA Airport codes to import into MS Access 
> database
>
>
>>I grabbed all the data from an airport list (which was subdivided by
>>initial character) and I'm sending you off-list the MDB. If anyone else
>>wants the list, pvt me and I will send it to you as well.
>>
>> Arthur
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----
>> From: Shamil Salakhetdinov <shamil at users.mns.ru>
>> To: Access-D <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
>> Sent: Sunday, November 12, 2006 8:48:07 AM
>> Subject: [AccessD] IATA Airport codes to import into MS Access database
>>
>> Hi All,
>>
>> Is there somewhere a file with IATA Airport codes ready to be imported
>> into
>> MS Access database?
>>
>> I mean Airport codes like these:
>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_airports_by_IATA_code:_L
>>
>>
>> Thank you.
>>
>> --
>> Shamil
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From martyconnelly at shaw.ca  Sun Nov 12 13:33:44 2006
From: martyconnelly at shaw.ca (MartyConnelly)
Date: Sun, 12 Nov 2006 11:33:44 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] IATA Airport codes to import into MS Access database
In-Reply-To: <002901c70677$99b1f500$3e3de844@50NM721>
References: <20061112154838.25114.qmail@web88210.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
	<002901c70677$99b1f500$3e3de844@50NM721>
Message-ID: <45577718.1030204@shaw.ca>

It depends on how accurate you need to be

Here is one site that supplies IATA 3 char and IACO 4 char lists of
airport codes 30,000 total for 50$ in csv format.
Probably a more accurate breakdown
It may include military, emergency and dirt strips.
These are the backwoods ones you fly over at night, send a radio signal
on a pre-set frequency and the runway lights turn on..

http://www.mapping.com/airportcodes.html

IATA sell a subscription for $3000

This site states 9,400 large airports
http://www.world-airport-codes.com/

Some airports are a little odd. I have flown in here
BRR Barra in Outer Hebrides.
The runway is a sand beach, landings and take offs depend on the tide
There are scheduled flights in here

click on satellite map
http://www.world-airport-codes.com/united-kingdom/north-bay-630.html


William Hindman wrote:

>...why not post it on dba ...I've got an updated lat/long/post codes with US 
>and many international that I'll put up there soon as well ...its a rpita to 
>find high quality data lists that really provide what you need
>
>William Hindman
>
>----- Original Message ----- 
>From: <artful at rogers.com>
>To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving" 
><accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
>Sent: Sunday, November 12, 2006 10:48 AM
>Subject: Re: [AccessD] IATA Airport codes to import into MS Access database
>
>
>  
>
>>I grabbed all the data from an airport list (which was subdivided by 
>>initial character) and I'm sending you off-list the MDB. If anyone else 
>>wants the list, pvt me and I will send it to you as well.
>>
>>Arthur
>>
>>----- Original Message ----
>>From: Shamil Salakhetdinov <shamil at users.mns.ru>
>>To: Access-D <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
>>Sent: Sunday, November 12, 2006 8:48:07 AM
>>Subject: [AccessD] IATA Airport codes to import into MS Access database
>>
>>Hi All,
>>
>>Is there somewhere a file with IATA Airport codes ready to be imported 
>>into
>>MS Access database?
>>
>>I mean Airport codes like these:
>>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_airports_by_IATA_code:_L
>>
>>
>>Thank you.
>>
>>--
>>Shamil
>>
>>    
>>
>
>
>
>  
>

-- 
Marty Connelly
Victoria, B.C.
Canada



From dwaters at usinternet.com  Sun Nov 12 13:42:36 2006
From: dwaters at usinternet.com (Dan Waters)
Date: Sun, 12 Nov 2006 13:42:36 -0600
Subject: [AccessD] Requirements Management - What do you do?
Message-ID: <000301c70692$b54b6ec0$0200a8c0@danwaters>

Hello to all!

I'm getting to a point with a customer where it would really help to do some
semi-formal requirements management (good customer - big project).  I've
done a little web searching and bought a book (Software Requirements by
Ellen Gottesdiener - which I do like).

Now to get some comments from the experts!  

I'd like to find out what people on this list do for collecting and managing
the requirements on your projects.  Spreadsheets?  Word docs?  Personal
software?  Professional software?  Anything really good or anything really
bad?


Thanks!
Dan Waters




From prodevmg at yahoo.com  Sun Nov 12 14:22:21 2006
From: prodevmg at yahoo.com (Lonnie Johnson)
Date: Sun, 12 Nov 2006 12:22:21 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [AccessD] Moving items in a listbox with the mouse
Message-ID: <20061112202221.17832.qmail@web33106.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Thanks. They changed their mind.
 








May God bless you beyond your imagination!
Lonnie Johnson
ProDev, Professional Development of MS Access Databases
Visit me at ==> http://www.prodev.us






 



----- Original Message ----
From: Beach Access Software <bchacc at san.rr.com>
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Sunday, November 12, 2006 10:11:45 AM
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Moving items in a listbox with the mouse


I've done this but only with a couple of command buttons labeled 'Move Up'
and 'Move Down' outside the list box.  Worked pretty well, though with some
brute force code, IIRC.  It was a long time ago but I can try to dig it out
if you want to go in that direction.

Rocky


-----Original Message-----
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Sent: Sunday, November 12, 2006 4:38 AM
To: AccessD solving'
Subject: [AccessD] Moving items in a listbox with the mouse

Does anyone know of any method, code or control that I could use to move
order of the items within a list box with a mouse.

So if I have three things in a list box 

CAT
DOG
BIRD

I would like to grab DOG with my mouse and move it up above CAT.

Is that possible?

Thanks.









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From stuart at lexacorp.com.pg  Sun Nov 12 16:06:54 2006
From: stuart at lexacorp.com.pg (Stuart McLachlan)
Date: Mon, 13 Nov 2006 08:06:54 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] IATA Airport codes to import into MS Access database
In-Reply-To: <000001c70661$2f8295b0$6401a8c0@nant>
References: <000001c70661$2f8295b0$6401a8c0@nant>
Message-ID: <45579AFE.19436.9185D37@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>

On 12 Nov 2006 at 16:48, Shamil Salakhetdinov wrote:

> Hi All,
> 
> Is there somewhere a file with IATA Airport codes ready to be imported into
> MS Access database?

Yes, but it's very expensive.  IATA owns the information:
http://www.iata.org/ps/publications/9095.htm

-- 
Stuart




From lizd1 at charter.net  Sun Nov 12 19:53:52 2006
From: lizd1 at charter.net (Liz Doering)
Date: Sun, 12 Nov 2006 19:53:52 -0600
Subject: [AccessD] Requirements Management - What do you do?
In-Reply-To: <000301c70692$b54b6ec0$0200a8c0@danwaters>
Message-ID: <001001c706c6$92a8dd60$6601a8c0@Lillian>

Dan,

At Symphony, we built a 'cost detail' spreadsheet, showing a concise
description of each item to be completed, and a number of hours that item
would cost.  That way, if the client decided Report A, bid at 5 hours, was
not desperately necessary right now, they could specifically exclude it, or
save it for later.  They got a 'line item veto' over almost everything we
had heard them ask for.  (Not everything, if they wanted a report grouped by
X and collecting X was a new feature, they had to pay for both.)  

We also built in some text allowing for a 10% overrun in time and cost,
without their additional approval, and an assurance that we would confer
before going ahead with anything over 10%.

They were asked to sign off on the total before ANY work commenced.

It was a pretty simple document, easy to read if not easy to put together.
I can send a sample off-list if you like.

Thanks,
 
Liz

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Dan Waters
Sent: Sunday, November 12, 2006 1:43 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] Requirements Management - What do you do?

Hello to all!

I'm getting to a point with a customer where it would really help to do some
semi-formal requirements management (good customer - big project).  I've
done a little web searching and bought a book (Software Requirements by
Ellen Gottesdiener - which I do like).

Now to get some comments from the experts!  

I'd like to find out what people on this list do for collecting and managing
the requirements on your projects.  Spreadsheets?  Word docs?  Personal
software?  Professional software?  Anything really good or anything really
bad?


Thanks!
Dan Waters


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From max at sherman.org.uk  Mon Nov 13 00:27:54 2006
From: max at sherman.org.uk (Max Home)
Date: Mon, 13 Nov 2006 06:27:54 -0000
Subject: [AccessD] IATA Airport codes to import into MS Access	database
In-Reply-To: <s5575dbc.036@cactus.dk>
Message-ID: <000001c706ec$db7142f0$8119fea9@Server>

Hi All,
Don't know how accurate this link is.  I have just returned from Thailand
and the airport they are now using for BKK is the new one (Sumarahavi or
something like that - sorry about spelling) whereas this link still shows
Don Muang.
Regards
Max


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gustav Brock
Sent: Sunday, November 12, 2006 4:45 PM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: Re: [AccessD] IATA Airport codes to import into MS Access database

Hi William and Shamil

Here's an alternative:

http://crashpads.com/airport_codes/index.cfm

Don't fill in any field, just press the button to retrieve the full list -
which can be saved as is to a text file.

/gustav

>>> wdhindman at dejpolsystems.com 12-11-06 17:28 >>>
...why not post it on dba ...I've got an updated lat/long/post codes with US

and many international that I'll put up there soon as well ...its a rpita to

find high quality data lists that really provide what you need

William Hindman

----- Original Message ----- 
From: <artful at rogers.com>
To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving" 
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Sunday, November 12, 2006 10:48 AM
Subject: Re: [AccessD] IATA Airport codes to import into MS Access database


>I grabbed all the data from an airport list (which was subdivided by 
>initial character) and I'm sending you off-list the MDB. If anyone else 
>wants the list, pvt me and I will send it to you as well.
>
> Arthur
>
> ----- Original Message ----
> From: Shamil Salakhetdinov <shamil at users.mns.ru>
> To: Access-D <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
> Sent: Sunday, November 12, 2006 8:48:07 AM
> Subject: [AccessD] IATA Airport codes to import into MS Access database
>
> Hi All,
>
> Is there somewhere a file with IATA Airport codes ready to be imported 
> into
> MS Access database?
>
> I mean Airport codes like these:
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_airports_by_IATA_code:_L
>
>
> Thank you.
>
> --
> Shamil
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From krosenstiel at comcast.net  Mon Nov 13 00:43:29 2006
From: krosenstiel at comcast.net (Karen Rosenstiel)
Date: Sun, 12 Nov 2006 22:43:29 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] Requirements Management - What do you do?
In-Reply-To: <001001c706c6$92a8dd60$6601a8c0@Lillian>
Message-ID: <000301c706ef$0836fbc0$6401a8c0@bigmama>

I'd like a copy too, if you don't mind.  krosenstiel at hotmail dot com 


Regards,

Karen Rosenstiel
Seattle WA USA 


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Liz Doering
Sent: Sunday, November 12, 2006 5:54 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Requirements Management - What do you do?

Dan,

At Symphony, we built a 'cost detail' spreadsheet, showing a concise
description of each item to be completed, and a number of hours that item
would cost.  That way, if the client decided Report A, bid at 5 hours, was
not desperately necessary right now, they could specifically exclude it, or
save it for later.  They got a 'line item veto' over almost everything we
had heard them ask for.  (Not everything, if they wanted a report grouped by
X and collecting X was a new feature, they had to pay for both.)  

We also built in some text allowing for a 10% overrun in time and cost,
without their additional approval, and an assurance that we would confer
before going ahead with anything over 10%.

They were asked to sign off on the total before ANY work commenced.

It was a pretty simple document, easy to read if not easy to put together.
I can send a sample off-list if you like.

Thanks,
 
Liz

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Dan Waters
Sent: Sunday, November 12, 2006 1:43 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] Requirements Management - What do you do?

Hello to all!

I'm getting to a point with a customer where it would really help to do some
semi-formal requirements management (good customer - big project).  I've
done a little web searching and bought a book (Software Requirements by
Ellen Gottesdiener - which I do like).

Now to get some comments from the experts!  

I'd like to find out what people on this list do for collecting and managing
the requirements on your projects.  Spreadsheets?  Word docs?  Personal
software?  Professional software?  Anything really good or anything really
bad?


Thanks!
Dan Waters


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From stuart at lexacorp.com.pg  Mon Nov 13 00:59:42 2006
From: stuart at lexacorp.com.pg (Stuart McLachlan)
Date: Mon, 13 Nov 2006 16:59:42 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] IATA Airport codes to import into MS Access database
In-Reply-To: <000001c706ec$db7142f0$8119fea9@Server>
References: <s5575dbc.036@cactus.dk>, <000001c706ec$db7142f0$8119fea9@Server>
Message-ID: <4558A47E.23486.67091F65@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>

On 13 Nov 2006 at 6:27, Max Home wrote:

> Hi All,
> Don't know how accurate this link is.  I have just returned from Thailand
> and the airport they are now using for BKK is the new one (Sumarahavi or
> something like that - sorry about spelling) whereas this link still shows

IATA put out monthly updates, it costs about $3000 a year to subscribe to them :-(




From Gustav at cactus.dk  Mon Nov 13 04:03:45 2006
From: Gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Mon, 13 Nov 2006 11:03:45 +0100
Subject: [AccessD] IATA Airport codes to import into MS	Access	database
Message-ID: <s558511c.044@cactus.dk>

Hi Max

I can't tell, but if you only need city and country it should be OK.

But the link from Marty seems to be up to date with the full information:

  http://www.world-airport-codes.com/ 

For BKK it lists:

  Suvarnabhumi International 

/gustav

>>> max at sherman.org.uk 13-11-2006 07:27 >>>
Hi All,
Don't know how accurate this link is.  I have just returned from Thailand
and the airport they are now using for BKK is the new one (Sumarahavi or
something like that - sorry about spelling) whereas this link still shows
Don Muang.
Regards
Max


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com 
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gustav Brock
Sent: Sunday, November 12, 2006 4:45 PM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com 
Subject: Re: [AccessD] IATA Airport codes to import into MS Access database

Hi William and Shamil

Here's an alternative:

http://crashpads.com/airport_codes/index.cfm 

Don't fill in any field, just press the button to retrieve the full list -
which can be saved as is to a text file.

/gustav




From comres at rpa.net  Mon Nov 13 06:09:27 2006
From: comres at rpa.net (Mark Brown)
Date: Mon, 13 Nov 2006 07:09:27 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Requirements Management - What do you do?
In-Reply-To: <000301c706ef$0836fbc0$6401a8c0@bigmama>
Message-ID: <00bb01c7071c$9aa6cd50$7440d90a@marklaptop>

I would appreciate a copy as well.  Comres at rpa net.

Thanks.

Mark H Brown
Computer Resolutions Inc.



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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Karen Rosenstiel
Sent: Monday, November 13, 2006 1:43 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Requirements Management - What do you do?


I'd like a copy too, if you don't mind.  krosenstiel at hotmail dot com 


Regards,

Karen Rosenstiel
Seattle WA USA 


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Liz Doering
Sent: Sunday, November 12, 2006 5:54 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Requirements Management - What do you do?

Dan,

At Symphony, we built a 'cost detail' spreadsheet, showing a concise
description of each item to be completed, and a number of hours that item
would cost.  That way, if the client decided Report A, bid at 5 hours, was
not desperately necessary right now, they could specifically exclude it, or
save it for later.  They got a 'line item veto' over almost everything we
had heard them ask for.  (Not everything, if they wanted a report grouped by
X and collecting X was a new feature, they had to pay for both.)  

We also built in some text allowing for a 10% overrun in time and cost,
without their additional approval, and an assurance that we would confer
before going ahead with anything over 10%.

They were asked to sign off on the total before ANY work commenced.

It was a pretty simple document, easy to read if not easy to put together. I
can send a sample off-list if you like.

Thanks,
 
Liz

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Dan Waters
Sent: Sunday, November 12, 2006 1:43 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] Requirements Management - What do you do?

Hello to all!

I'm getting to a point with a customer where it would really help to do some
semi-formal requirements management (good customer - big project).  I've
done a little web searching and bought a book (Software Requirements by
Ellen Gottesdiener - which I do like).

Now to get some comments from the experts!  

I'd like to find out what people on this list do for collecting and managing
the requirements on your projects.  Spreadsheets?  Word docs?  Personal
software?  Professional software?  Anything really good or anything really
bad?


Thanks!
Dan Waters


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From JRojas at tnco-inc.com  Mon Nov 13 07:08:31 2006
From: JRojas at tnco-inc.com (Joe Rojas)
Date: Mon, 13 Nov 2006 08:08:31 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Requirements Management - What do you do?
Message-ID: <758E92433C4F3740B67BE4DD369AF5772EDF04@ex2k3.corp.tnco-inc.com>

Could I also get a copy please?
joerojas at gmail.com

Thanks,
Joe Rojas
IT Manager
TNCO, Inc.
781-447-6661 x7506
jrojas at tnco-inc.com

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Mark Brown
Sent: Monday, November 13, 2006 7:09 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Requirements Management - What do you do?

I would appreciate a copy as well.  Comres at rpa net.

Thanks.

Mark H Brown
Computer Resolutions Inc.



-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Karen
Rosenstiel
Sent: Monday, November 13, 2006 1:43 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Requirements Management - What do you do?


I'd like a copy too, if you don't mind.  krosenstiel at hotmail dot com 


Regards,

Karen Rosenstiel
Seattle WA USA 


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Liz Doering
Sent: Sunday, November 12, 2006 5:54 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Requirements Management - What do you do?

Dan,

At Symphony, we built a 'cost detail' spreadsheet, showing a concise
description of each item to be completed, and a number of hours that
item
would cost.  That way, if the client decided Report A, bid at 5 hours,
was
not desperately necessary right now, they could specifically exclude it,
or
save it for later.  They got a 'line item veto' over almost everything
we
had heard them ask for.  (Not everything, if they wanted a report
grouped by
X and collecting X was a new feature, they had to pay for both.)  

We also built in some text allowing for a 10% overrun in time and cost,
without their additional approval, and an assurance that we would confer
before going ahead with anything over 10%.

They were asked to sign off on the total before ANY work commenced.

It was a pretty simple document, easy to read if not easy to put
together. I
can send a sample off-list if you like.

Thanks,
 
Liz

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Dan Waters
Sent: Sunday, November 12, 2006 1:43 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] Requirements Management - What do you do?

Hello to all!

I'm getting to a point with a customer where it would really help to do
some
semi-formal requirements management (good customer - big project).  I've
done a little web searching and bought a book (Software Requirements by
Ellen Gottesdiener - which I do like).

Now to get some comments from the experts!  

I'd like to find out what people on this list do for collecting and
managing
the requirements on your projects.  Spreadsheets?  Word docs?  Personal
software?  Professional software?  Anything really good or anything
really
bad?


Thanks!
Dan Waters


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From artful at rogers.com  Mon Nov 13 07:14:54 2006
From: artful at rogers.com (artful at rogers.com)
Date: Mon, 13 Nov 2006 05:14:54 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [AccessD] IATA Airport codes to import into MS Access database
Message-ID: <20061113131455.38611.qmail@web88203.mail.re2.yahoo.com>

I'll do it as soon as I figure out how to. I don't see a button for Uploads, just for Downloads.

----- Original Message ----
From: William Hindman <wdhindman at dejpolsystems.com>
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Sunday, November 12, 2006 11:28:34 AM
Subject: Re: [AccessD] IATA Airport codes to import into MS Access database

...why not post it on dba ...I've got an updated lat/long/post codes with US 
and many international that I'll put up there soon as well ...its a rpita to 
find high quality data lists that really provide what you need

William Hindman






From dwaters at usinternet.com  Mon Nov 13 07:58:01 2006
From: dwaters at usinternet.com (Dan Waters)
Date: Mon, 13 Nov 2006 07:58:01 -0600
Subject: [AccessD] Requirements Management - What do you do?
In-Reply-To: <18330182.1163383512289.JavaMail.root@sniper28>
Message-ID: <001201c7072b$bd50b640$0200a8c0@danwaters>

Hi Liz!

Yes! I'd definitely like to see that.  This sounds very precise.


Thanks!
Dan Waters
ProMation Systems, Inc.
(W) 763-780-2496
(M) 763-639-2960

-----Original Message-----
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Requirements Management - What do you do?

Dan,

At Symphony, we built a 'cost detail' spreadsheet, showing a concise
description of each item to be completed, and a number of hours that item
would cost.  That way, if the client decided Report A, bid at 5 hours, was
not desperately necessary right now, they could specifically exclude it, or
save it for later.  They got a 'line item veto' over almost everything we
had heard them ask for.  (Not everything, if they wanted a report grouped by
X and collecting X was a new feature, they had to pay for both.)  

We also built in some text allowing for a 10% overrun in time and cost,
without their additional approval, and an assurance that we would confer
before going ahead with anything over 10%.

They were asked to sign off on the total before ANY work commenced.

It was a pretty simple document, easy to read if not easy to put together.
I can send a sample off-list if you like.

Thanks,
 
Liz

-----Original Message-----
Subject: [AccessD] Requirements Management - What do you do?

Hello to all!

I'm getting to a point with a customer where it would really help to do some
semi-formal requirements management (good customer - big project).  I've
done a little web searching and bought a book (Software Requirements by
Ellen Gottesdiener - which I do like).

Now to get some comments from the experts!  

I'd like to find out what people on this list do for collecting and managing
the requirements on your projects.  Spreadsheets?  Word docs?  Personal
software?  Professional software?  Anything really good or anything really
bad?


Thanks!
Dan Waters


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From john at winhaven.net  Mon Nov 13 08:40:29 2006
From: john at winhaven.net (John Bartow)
Date: Mon, 13 Nov 2006 08:40:29 -0600
Subject: [AccessD] XP-mde on A2003?
In-Reply-To: <200611120627.kAC6RRq12802@databaseadvisors.com>
Message-ID: <200611131440.kADEeXq30311@databaseadvisors.com>

Looks like the key issue I missed here the other night was "XP-mde"! 

I was testing this with A2k-mdes. Sorry for any confusion that may have
caused.



From carbonnb at gmail.com  Mon Nov 13 09:30:50 2006
From: carbonnb at gmail.com (Bryan Carbonnell)
Date: Mon, 13 Nov 2006 10:30:50 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] IATA Airport codes to import into MS Access database
In-Reply-To: <20061113131455.38611.qmail@web88203.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
References: <20061113131455.38611.qmail@web88203.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <e04a6c920611130730i64ab9e02gf3bbcadc311bf12a@mail.gmail.com>

On 11/13/06, artful at rogers.com <artful at rogers.com> wrote:
> I'll do it as soon as I figure out how to. I don't see a button for Uploads, just for Downloads.

Send an e-mail to Jim Lawrence and let him know that you have a file
you want to put up on the site.

Jim is the webmaster and can be reached at accessd at shaw.ca or if I've
messed up from memory, you can also try webmaster at databaseadvisors.com

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From andy at minstersystems.co.uk  Mon Nov 13 09:50:42 2006
From: andy at minstersystems.co.uk (Andy Lacey)
Date: Mon, 13 Nov 2006 15:50:42 +0000
Subject: [AccessD] Which Word?
Message-ID: <20061113155047.2B21885CC4@smtp.nildram.co.uk>

If I have Word 97 and Word XP on a machine and I use the construct

Set oAppWord = GetObject(, "Word.Application")

how do I determine which version I get? Having just put XP on this machine I
thought changing the Reference to the Word 10 object library instead of Word
8 would do it, but it hasn't. What's the trick?

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From carbonnb at gmail.com  Mon Nov 13 10:53:43 2006
From: carbonnb at gmail.com (Bryan Carbonnell)
Date: Mon, 13 Nov 2006 11:53:43 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Which Word?
In-Reply-To: <20061113155047.2B21885CC4@smtp.nildram.co.uk>
References: <20061113155047.2B21885CC4@smtp.nildram.co.uk>
Message-ID: <e04a6c920611130853u488cd789o8e4bc3dc121c4a51@mail.gmail.com>

On 11/13/06, Andy Lacey <andy at minstersystems.co.uk> wrote:
> If I have Word 97 and Word XP on a machine and I use the construct
>
> Set oAppWord = GetObject(, "Word.Application")
>
> how do I determine which version I get? Having just put XP on this machine I
> thought changing the Reference to the Word 10 object library instead of Word
> 8 would do it, but it hasn't. What's the trick?

If you use Word.Application, you get the default version of Word.

To get a specific version, you need to use:

Set oAppWord = GetObject(, "Word.Application.8") ' Word 97
Set oAppWord = GetObject(, "Word.Application.9") ' Word 2000
Set oAppWord = GetObject(, "Word.Application.10") ' Word 2002

Same for CreateObject if you are creating the word instance

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From andy at minstersystems.co.uk  Mon Nov 13 11:09:16 2006
From: andy at minstersystems.co.uk (Andy Lacey)
Date: Mon, 13 Nov 2006 17:09:16 +0000
Subject: [AccessD] Which Word?
Message-ID: <20061113170921.71AAB2BBB67@smtp2.nildram.co.uk>

Thanks Bryan. If I wanted to how would I make Word 2002 the default when
Word 97 still there?

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--------- Original Message --------
From: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving"
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To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving"
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Which Word?
Date: 13/11/06 16:55


On 11/13/06, Andy Lacey <andy at minstersystems.co.uk> wrote:
> If I have Word 97 and Word XP on a machine and I use the construct
>
> Set oAppWord = GetObject(, "Word.Application")
>
> how do I determine which version I get? Having just put XP on this machine
I
> thought changing the Reference to the Word 10 object library instead of
Word
> 8 would do it, but it hasn't. What's the trick?

If you use Word.Application, you get the default version of Word.

To get a specific version, you need to use:

Set oAppWord = GetObject(, "Word.Application.8") ' Word 97
Set oAppWord = GetObject(, "Word.Application.9") ' Word 2000
Set oAppWord = GetObject(, "Word.Application.10") ' Word 2002

Same for CreateObject if you are creating the word instance

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From carbonnb at gmail.com  Mon Nov 13 11:16:42 2006
From: carbonnb at gmail.com (Bryan Carbonnell)
Date: Mon, 13 Nov 2006 12:16:42 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Which Word?
In-Reply-To: <20061113170921.71AAB2BBB67@smtp2.nildram.co.uk>
References: <20061113170921.71AAB2BBB67@smtp2.nildram.co.uk>
Message-ID: <e04a6c920611130916g29e0d4efv41d61562ff5eefed@mail.gmail.com>

On 11/13/06, Andy Lacey <andy at minstersystems.co.uk> wrote:
> Thanks Bryan. If I wanted to how would I make Word 2002 the default when
> Word 97 still there?

Ummmm......

Got me on that one. I have no Idea.

Which version opens up when you double click a Word doc in Explorer?

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From andy at minstersystems.co.uk  Mon Nov 13 13:19:42 2006
From: andy at minstersystems.co.uk (Andy Lacey)
Date: Mon, 13 Nov 2006 19:19:42 -0000
Subject: [AccessD] Which Word?
In-Reply-To: <e04a6c920611130916g29e0d4efv41d61562ff5eefed@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <000f01c70758$abf560d0$bf3b0c54@minster33c3r25>

2002, so that's not it. Odd.

Andy

> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com 
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of 
> Bryan Carbonnell
> Sent: 13 November 2006 17:17
> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] Which Word?
> 
> 
> On 11/13/06, Andy Lacey <andy at minstersystems.co.uk> wrote:
> > Thanks Bryan. If I wanted to how would I make Word 2002 the default 
> > when Word 97 still there?
> 
> Ummmm......
> 
> Got me on that one. I have no Idea.
> 
> Which version opens up when you double click a Word doc in Explorer?
> 
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From Kwilliamson at RTKL.com  Mon Nov 13 14:20:38 2006
From: Kwilliamson at RTKL.com (Keith Williamson)
Date: Mon, 13 Nov 2006 15:20:38 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] query expression help
In-Reply-To: <000f01c70758$abf560d0$bf3b0c54@minster33c3r25>
Message-ID: <EFFF0FE60ECFB4429947B7659801327B04EF5FE3@EDGAR.rtkl.rtkl.net>

Hey guys....

I'm blanking.  If I want to create an expression, in a query, that
checks another field for specific text....ie:

Check field [ProfitCenterName] with value of:

Associates Retail Balto.Architecture

....to see if "Architect" is within the text...and if so, return a value
of "21".......

How do I do this?  I've got a query, I want to check the text within
another field....to see if certain text is buried within the value of
that field...and if so, populate the expression I am building in the
query.

Thanks,

Keith E. Williamson | Assist. Controller| kwilliamson at rtkl.com

RTKL Associates Inc. | 901 South Bond Street | Baltimore, Maryland
21231-3305

410-537-6098 direct | 410-276-2136 fax | www.rtkl.com



From cfoust at infostatsystems.com  Mon Nov 13 14:37:12 2006
From: cfoust at infostatsystems.com (Charlotte Foust)
Date: Mon, 13 Nov 2006 12:37:12 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] query expression help
In-Reply-To: <EFFF0FE60ECFB4429947B7659801327B04EF5FE3@EDGAR.rtkl.rtkl.net>
Message-ID: <F55048AF7E974F429BB24597D7355EEA1783BC@INFOSERVER04.infostat.local>

Use InStr().  It returns the starting position of one thread in another.

Charlotte Foust 

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Keith
Williamson
Sent: Monday, November 13, 2006 12:21 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: [AccessD] query expression help

Hey guys....

I'm blanking.  If I want to create an expression, in a query, that
checks another field for specific text....ie:

Check field [ProfitCenterName] with value of:

Associates Retail Balto.Architecture

....to see if "Architect" is within the text...and if so, return a value
of "21".......

How do I do this?  I've got a query, I want to check the text within
another field....to see if certain text is buried within the value of
that field...and if so, populate the expression I am building in the
query.

Thanks,

Keith E. Williamson | Assist. Controller| kwilliamson at rtkl.com

RTKL Associates Inc. | 901 South Bond Street | Baltimore, Maryland
21231-3305

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From Lambert.Heenan at AIG.com  Mon Nov 13 14:33:19 2006
From: Lambert.Heenan at AIG.com (Heenan, Lambert)
Date: Mon, 13 Nov 2006 14:33:19 -0600
Subject: [AccessD] query expression help
Message-ID: <34C8A2AB1EF3564CB0D64DB6AFFDD5C206827A@xlivmbx35.aig.com>

Using a calculated field expression in the query...

Calc Field Name: Iif(Instr([ProfitCenterName],"Architect")>0,"True
Value","False Value") 

This example creates a field called "Calc Field Name" which will wind up
with a string value of either "True Value" or "False Value". Of course you
can equally easily arrange for IIF() to return numeric values or date
values, whatever you need.

Lambert

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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Keith Williamson
Sent: Monday, November 13, 2006 3:21 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: [AccessD] query expression help


Hey guys....

I'm blanking.  If I want to create an expression, in a query, that checks
another field for specific text....ie:

Check field [ProfitCenterName] with value of:

Associates Retail Balto.Architecture

....to see if "Architect" is within the text...and if so, return a value of
"21".......

How do I do this?  I've got a query, I want to check the text within another
field....to see if certain text is buried within the value of that
field...and if so, populate the expression I am building in the query.

Thanks,

Keith E. Williamson | Assist. Controller| kwilliamson at rtkl.com

RTKL Associates Inc. | 901 South Bond Street | Baltimore, Maryland
21231-3305

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From carbonnb at gmail.com  Mon Nov 13 16:30:16 2006
From: carbonnb at gmail.com (Bryan Carbonnell)
Date: Mon, 13 Nov 2006 17:30:16 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Which Word?
In-Reply-To: <000f01c70758$abf560d0$bf3b0c54@minster33c3r25>
References: <e04a6c920611130916g29e0d4efv41d61562ff5eefed@mail.gmail.com>
	<000f01c70758$abf560d0$bf3b0c54@minster33c3r25>
Message-ID: <e04a6c920611131430q52634bd5uc0ea48e393b33a95@mail.gmail.com>

On 11/13/06, Andy Lacey <andy at minstersystems.co.uk> wrote:
> 2002, so that's not it. Odd.

Quite. I dunno then. I'm out of ideas.

Maybe a decompile, compact and recompile will do it without the
version in the GetObject.

Just a WAG.

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From Kwilliamson at RTKL.com  Mon Nov 13 16:41:18 2006
From: Kwilliamson at RTKL.com (Keith Williamson)
Date: Mon, 13 Nov 2006 17:41:18 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] query expression help
In-Reply-To: <34C8A2AB1EF3564CB0D64DB6AFFDD5C206827A@xlivmbx35.aig.com>
Message-ID: <EFFF0FE60ECFB4429947B7659801327B04F25AD3@EDGAR.rtkl.rtkl.net>

Thanks guys!!!!

Regards,

Keith E. Williamson | Assist. Controller| kwilliamson at rtkl.com

RTKL Associates Inc. | 901 South Bond Street | Baltimore, Maryland
21231-3305

410-537-6098 direct | 410-276-2136 fax | www.rtkl.com


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Heenan,
Lambert
Sent: Monday, November 13, 2006 3:33 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: Re: [AccessD] query expression help

Using a calculated field expression in the query...

Calc Field Name: Iif(Instr([ProfitCenterName],"Architect")>0,"True
Value","False Value") 

This example creates a field called "Calc Field Name" which will wind up
with a string value of either "True Value" or "False Value". Of course
you
can equally easily arrange for IIF() to return numeric values or date
values, whatever you need.

Lambert

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Keith
Williamson
Sent: Monday, November 13, 2006 3:21 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: [AccessD] query expression help


Hey guys....

I'm blanking.  If I want to create an expression, in a query, that
checks
another field for specific text....ie:

Check field [ProfitCenterName] with value of:

Associates Retail Balto.Architecture

....to see if "Architect" is within the text...and if so, return a value
of
"21".......

How do I do this?  I've got a query, I want to check the text within
another
field....to see if certain text is buried within the value of that
field...and if so, populate the expression I am building in the query.

Thanks,

Keith E. Williamson | Assist. Controller| kwilliamson at rtkl.com

RTKL Associates Inc. | 901 South Bond Street | Baltimore, Maryland
21231-3305

410-537-6098 direct | 410-276-2136 fax | www.rtkl.com

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From Jim.Hale at FleetPride.com  Mon Nov 13 17:27:11 2006
From: Jim.Hale at FleetPride.com (Hale, Jim)
Date: Mon, 13 Nov 2006 17:27:11 -0600
Subject: [AccessD] Which Word?
Message-ID: <6A6AA9DF57E4F046BDA1E273BDDB67727DE0F9@corp-es01.fleetpride.com>

Maybe CreateObject would do the trick instead of GetObject?

"If the pathname argument is omitted, GetObject returns a currently active
object of the specified type. 
Use CreateObject when there is no current instance of the object. If an
instance of the object is already running, a new instance is started, and an
object of the specified type is created. To use the current instance, or to
start the application and have it load a file, use the GetObject function."

Jim Hale

-----Original Message-----
From: Andy Lacey [mailto:andy at minstersystems.co.uk]
Sent: Monday, November 13, 2006 9:51 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: [AccessD] Which Word?


If I have Word 97 and Word XP on a machine and I use the construct

Set oAppWord = GetObject(, "Word.Application")

how do I determine which version I get? Having just put XP on this machine I
thought changing the Reference to the Word 10 object library instead of Word
8 would do it, but it hasn't. What's the trick?

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From DWUTKA at marlow.com  Mon Nov 13 18:15:32 2006
From: DWUTKA at marlow.com (DWUTKA at marlow.com)
Date: Mon, 13 Nov 2006 18:15:32 -0600
Subject: [AccessD] XP-mde on A2003?
Message-ID: <17724746D360394AA3BFE5B8D40A9C1B0139B839@MARLOW_MAIN2.marlow.com>

Probably already answered, but just put it in 2000 format, that way it's
usable to both versions.

Drew

-----Original Message-----
From: Lembit Soobik [mailto:lembit.dbamail at t-online.de] 
Sent: Saturday, November 11, 2006 12:23 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: [AccessD] XP-mde on A2003?

Hi everyone,
I have been asked to write an Access db for a friend.
I have Access-XP (2002) on my machine
he has Access 2003

can he run an mde from me on his machine?

thank you 
Lembit

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From cfoust at infostatsystems.com  Mon Nov 13 18:29:57 2006
From: cfoust at infostatsystems.com (Charlotte Foust)
Date: Mon, 13 Nov 2006 16:29:57 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] XP-mde on A2003?
In-Reply-To: <17724746D360394AA3BFE5B8D40A9C1B0139B839@MARLOW_MAIN2.marlow.com>
Message-ID: <F55048AF7E974F429BB24597D7355EEA1783CC@INFOSERVER04.infostat.local>

But you can't create a 2000 format mde from either XP or 2003, only from
2000.

Charlotte Foust 

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of
DWUTKA at marlow.com
Sent: Monday, November 13, 2006 4:16 PM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: Re: [AccessD] XP-mde on A2003?

Probably already answered, but just put it in 2000 format, that way it's
usable to both versions.

Drew

-----Original Message-----
From: Lembit Soobik [mailto:lembit.dbamail at t-online.de]
Sent: Saturday, November 11, 2006 12:23 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: [AccessD] XP-mde on A2003?

Hi everyone,
I have been asked to write an Access db for a friend.
I have Access-XP (2002) on my machine
he has Access 2003

can he run an mde from me on his machine?

thank you
Lembit

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From darrend at nimble.com.au  Mon Nov 13 18:41:47 2006
From: darrend at nimble.com.au (Darren DICK)
Date: Tue, 14 Nov 2006 11:41:47 +1100
Subject: [AccessD] A2000: Import Needs
Message-ID: <004101c70785$ac10dea0$05000100@DENZILLAP>

Hi all
 
I have been given large (very large) text files to manipulate
 
I can Import them using the fixed width method and I can even attach them using
the get External data wizard - It all works OK
 
But the issue with these files is that one file may contain different data types
- all determined by a 3 character code in the first 3 positions in the left most
position of each line
 
EG we may have 3000 lines of data that start with "ABC" - Cool - I can create an
import spec - Call it the ABC import spec and break up each line into the
relevant fields in a table using fixed width - Easy
 
But after the 3000 "ABC" data type lines in my text file - there may be 1200
lines that start with "DEF" as the left most 3 characters and the data in each
of the "EFG" type lines need to be 'mapped' at different fixed lengths into
different fields
 
So the issue is - has anybody had experience kind of 'merging' several Import
Specs but only across 1 file?
 
Or does anyone have any suggestions on handling this?
 
Many thanks in advance
 
Darren


From DWUTKA at marlow.com  Mon Nov 13 19:12:20 2006
From: DWUTKA at marlow.com (DWUTKA at marlow.com)
Date: Mon, 13 Nov 2006 19:12:20 -0600
Subject: [AccessD] A2000: Import Needs
Message-ID: <17724746D360394AA3BFE5B8D40A9C1B0139B83A@MARLOW_MAIN2.marlow.com>

Just a quick thought, split the file into separate files, and import the
separate ones with their own specs.

For example:

Function RunImports(strPathToFileToImport as string)
Dim f as long
Dim strTemp as string
Dim I as Long
dim ABCCollection as collection
dim DEFCollection as collection
dim EFGCollection as Collection
dim strArray() as string
set ABCCollection=new Collection
set DEFCollection=New Collection
set EFGCollection=New Collection
f=freefile
Open strPathToFileToImport for binary access read as f
Strtemp=space(lof(f))
Get f,,strtemp
Close f
strArray=split(strtemp,vbcrlf)
for i=0 to ubound(strArray())
	select Case Left(strArray(i))
		Case "ABC"
			ABCCollection.Add strArray(i)
		Case "DEF"
			DEFCollection.Add strArray(i)
		Case "EFG"
			EFGCollection.Add strArray(i)
	End select
Next i



Now you have three collections that have the data you want to import.  You
simply have to create temp files with them, ie:

F=freefile
Open "C:\ABCTempFile.txt" for binary access write as f
For i=1 to ABCCollection.Count
	Put f,,ABCCollection(i) & vbcrlf
Next i
Close f

Then run the import, with the right spec:

DoCmd.TransferText .....

Delete the temp file

Kill "C:\ABCTempFile.txt"

Then repeat for the other collections.

You could get more complex, and have it all done with one collection, using
individual collections, etc.  Just depends how much time you want to spend
on creating the process.

Drew

-----Original Message-----
From: Darren DICK [mailto:darrend at nimble.com.au] 
Sent: Monday, November 13, 2006 6:42 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] A2000: Import Needs

Hi all
 
I have been given large (very large) text files to manipulate
 
I can Import them using the fixed width method and I can even attach them
using
the get External data wizard - It all works OK
 
But the issue with these files is that one file may contain different data
types
- all determined by a 3 character code in the first 3 positions in the left
most
position of each line
 
EG we may have 3000 lines of data that start with "ABC" - Cool - I can
create an
import spec - Call it the ABC import spec and break up each line into the
relevant fields in a table using fixed width - Easy
 
But after the 3000 "ABC" data type lines in my text file - there may be 1200
lines that start with "DEF" as the left most 3 characters and the data in
each
of the "EFG" type lines need to be 'mapped' at different fixed lengths into
different fields
 
So the issue is - has anybody had experience kind of 'merging' several
Import
Specs but only across 1 file?
 
Or does anyone have any suggestions on handling this?
 
Many thanks in advance
 
Darren
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From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com  Mon Nov 13 19:41:10 2006
From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (JWColby)
Date: Mon, 13 Nov 2006 20:41:10 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] XP-mde on A2003?
In-Reply-To: <F55048AF7E974F429BB24597D7355EEA1783CC@INFOSERVER04.infostat.local>
Message-ID: <006d01c7078d$f7ac0ee0$657aa8c0@m6805>

IIRC He never actually said he needed 2003 specific stuff, only that it
needed to run on 2003.  Thus do the entire thing in 2000.  Make the MDE in
20000.  Then run it in 2000, 2002 or 2003 as required.

John W. Colby
Colby Consulting
www.ColbyConsulting.com

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Charlotte Foust
Sent: Monday, November 13, 2006 7:30 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] XP-mde on A2003?

But you can't create a 2000 format mde from either XP or 2003, only from
2000.

Charlotte Foust 

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of DWUTKA at marlow.com
Sent: Monday, November 13, 2006 4:16 PM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: Re: [AccessD] XP-mde on A2003?

Probably already answered, but just put it in 2000 format, that way it's
usable to both versions.

Drew

-----Original Message-----
From: Lembit Soobik [mailto:lembit.dbamail at t-online.de]
Sent: Saturday, November 11, 2006 12:23 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: [AccessD] XP-mde on A2003?

Hi everyone,
I have been asked to write an Access db for a friend.
I have Access-XP (2002) on my machine
he has Access 2003

can he run an mde from me on his machine?

thank you
Lembit

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From darrend at nimble.com.au  Mon Nov 13 19:53:53 2006
From: darrend at nimble.com.au (Darren DICK)
Date: Tue, 14 Nov 2006 12:53:53 +1100
Subject: [AccessD] A2000: Import Needs
In-Reply-To: <17724746D360394AA3BFE5B8D40A9C1B0139B83A@MARLOW_MAIN2.marlow.com>
Message-ID: <004601c7078f$be8dcbb0$05000100@DENZILLAP>

Hey Drew

Many thanks for this - I will give it a go - excellent

Way out of my league :-)))
 
See ya

Darren
------------------


-----Original Message-----
From: DWUTKA at marlow.com [mailto:DWUTKA at marlow.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, 14 November 2006 12:12 PM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: Re: [AccessD] A2000: Import Needs

Just a quick thought, split the file into separate files, and import the
separate ones with their own specs.

For example:

Function RunImports(strPathToFileToImport as string)
Dim f as long
Dim strTemp as string
Dim I as Long
dim ABCCollection as collection
dim DEFCollection as collection
dim EFGCollection as Collection
dim strArray() as string
set ABCCollection=new Collection
set DEFCollection=New Collection
set EFGCollection=New Collection
f=freefile
Open strPathToFileToImport for binary access read as f
Strtemp=space(lof(f))
Get f,,strtemp
Close f
strArray=split(strtemp,vbcrlf)
for i=0 to ubound(strArray())
	select Case Left(strArray(i))
		Case "ABC"
			ABCCollection.Add strArray(i)
		Case "DEF"
			DEFCollection.Add strArray(i)
		Case "EFG"
			EFGCollection.Add strArray(i)
	End select
Next i



Now you have three collections that have the data you want to import.  You
simply have to create temp files with them, ie:

F=freefile
Open "C:\ABCTempFile.txt" for binary access write as f
For i=1 to ABCCollection.Count
	Put f,,ABCCollection(i) & vbcrlf
Next i
Close f

Then run the import, with the right spec:

DoCmd.TransferText .....

Delete the temp file

Kill "C:\ABCTempFile.txt"

Then repeat for the other collections.

You could get more complex, and have it all done with one collection, using
individual collections, etc.  Just depends how much time you want to spend
on creating the process.

Drew

-----Original Message-----
From: Darren DICK [mailto:darrend at nimble.com.au] 
Sent: Monday, November 13, 2006 6:42 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] A2000: Import Needs

Hi all
 
I have been given large (very large) text files to manipulate
 
I can Import them using the fixed width method and I can even attach them
using
the get External data wizard - It all works OK
 
But the issue with these files is that one file may contain different data
types
- all determined by a 3 character code in the first 3 positions in the left
most
position of each line
 
EG we may have 3000 lines of data that start with "ABC" - Cool - I can
create an
import spec - Call it the ABC import spec and break up each line into the
relevant fields in a table using fixed width - Easy
 
But after the 3000 "ABC" data type lines in my text file - there may be 1200
lines that start with "DEF" as the left most 3 characters and the data in
each
of the "EFG" type lines need to be 'mapped' at different fixed lengths into
different fields
 
So the issue is - has anybody had experience kind of 'merging' several
Import
Specs but only across 1 file?
 
Or does anyone have any suggestions on handling this?
 
Many thanks in advance
 
Darren
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From accessd at shaw.ca  Mon Nov 13 21:08:53 2006
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Mon, 13 Nov 2006 19:08:53 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] ATA airport list for the DBA list
In-Reply-To: <17724746D360394AA3BFE5B8D40A9C1B0139B83A@MARLOW_MAIN2.marlow.com>
Message-ID: <0J8P008P9A0Q1191@l-daemon>

Hi All:

Please find on the front page of the DBA web site
(http://www.databaseadvisors.com) access to the ATA airport list as provided
by Art Fuller... Thank you very much Arthur.

Regards
Jim

If you have any problems with accessing the site and/or downloading the file
send a note to: webmaster at databaseadvisors.com 



From ssharkins at setel.com  Mon Nov 13 21:30:14 2006
From: ssharkins at setel.com (Susan Harkins)
Date: Mon, 13 Nov 2006 22:30:14 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] ATA airport list for the DBA list
In-Reply-To: <0J8P008P9A0Q1191@l-daemon>
Message-ID: <003201c7079d$33481390$39b82ad1@SUSANONE>

Thanks Jim, but what's the big white overlay block just above the airplane?
Is something supposed to be there? 

Susan H. 

Hi All:

Please find on the front page of the DBA web site
(http://www.databaseadvisors.com) access to the ATA airport list as provided
by Art Fuller... Thank you very much Arthur.

Regards



From prodevmg at yahoo.com  Mon Nov 13 22:28:31 2006
From: prodevmg at yahoo.com (Lonnie Johnson)
Date: Mon, 13 Nov 2006 20:28:31 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [AccessD] Unable to bookmark after record is deleted
Message-ID: <20061114042831.4205.qmail@web33110.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

I have a process that deletes a record in a recordset of a subform via vba, then requeries the subform object. Then I try to move to another record using the bookmark and I get a message that says there is not current record for the recordset clone of the subform?  I know there are records, this only happens when I delete or insert a record into the underlying recordset.
 








May God bless you beyond your imagination!
Lonnie Johnson
ProDev, Professional Development of MS Access Databases
Visit me at ==> http://www.prodev.us



From accessd at shaw.ca  Mon Nov 13 23:03:37 2006
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Mon, 13 Nov 2006 21:03:37 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] ATA airport list for the DBA list
In-Reply-To: <003201c7079d$33481390$39b82ad1@SUSANONE>
Message-ID: <0J8P0079ZFBY0IP0@l-daemon>

Hi Susan:

I have run FF and IE and am not sure what you are seeing... could you send
me a picture of the page your computer produces.

Thanks
Jim 

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Susan Harkins
Sent: Monday, November 13, 2006 7:30 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: Re: [AccessD] ATA airport list for the DBA list

Thanks Jim, but what's the big white overlay block just above the airplane?
Is something supposed to be there? 

Susan H. 

Hi All:

Please find on the front page of the DBA web site
(http://www.databaseadvisors.com) access to the ATA airport list as provided
by Art Fuller... Thank you very much Arthur.

Regards

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From john at winhaven.net  Mon Nov 13 23:21:48 2006
From: john at winhaven.net (John Bartow)
Date: Mon, 13 Nov 2006 23:21:48 -0600
Subject: [AccessD] XP-mde on A2003?
In-Reply-To: <200611120627.kAC6RRq12802@databaseadvisors.com>
Message-ID: <200611140521.kAE5Lhq21212@databaseadvisors.com>

Could someone please try this 5 minute exercise replacing A2k with A2k2 and
let me know for sure? 

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of John Bartow
Sent: Sunday, November 12, 2006 12:27 AM

To test this again, I created a new db db1.mdb
	created (only) one form with a label that says "TEST" and no module
	made it the startup form
created an mde from db1.mdb - error "you cannot create a Microsoft Access
ADE or MDE from a database saved in Microsoft Access 2000 format"
converted db1.mdb to a2k3 - db2.mdb
created an mde from db2.mdb - db2.mde

opened db1.mdb in a2k3 - worked
opened db2.mdb with a2k3 - worked
opened db2.mde with a2k3 - worked

opened db1.mdb in a2k - worked
opened db2.mdb with a2k and get error "this database is in an unrecognized
format"
opened db2.mde with a2k and get error "this database is in an unrecognized
format"




From Johncliviger at aol.com  Tue Nov 14 04:45:19 2006
From: Johncliviger at aol.com (Johncliviger at aol.com)
Date: Tue, 14 Nov 2006 05:45:19 EST
Subject: [AccessD] Offensive Words List
Message-ID: <ca2.1d12900.328af83f@aol.com>

Hi all
 
I'm down loading  product enquiry details from a web site and then posting 
out catalogues via  snail mail. However I?m getting offensive names and 
requests. I Need to filter  out these obscenities. Does anyone have a list of 
proscribed words and what is  the approach to this problem? We are using Windows and 
Access XP. 
I can't alter the web  site so the filtering must be done in Access. 
TIA 
johnc


From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com  Tue Nov 14 05:41:50 2006
From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (JWColby)
Date: Tue, 14 Nov 2006 06:41:50 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Offensive Words List
In-Reply-To: <ca2.1d12900.328af83f@aol.com>
Message-ID: <007901c707e1$e14c52a0$657aa8c0@m6805>

LOL.  The things people do (and we have to undo).  

John W. Colby
Colby Consulting
www.ColbyConsulting.com

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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of
Johncliviger at aol.com
Sent: Tuesday, November 14, 2006 5:45 AM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [AccessD] Offensive Words List

Hi all
 
I'm down loading  product enquiry details from a web site and then posting
out catalogues via  snail mail. However I'm getting offensive names and
requests. I Need to filter  out these obscenities. Does anyone have a list
of proscribed words and what is  the approach to this problem? We are using
Windows and Access XP. 
I can't alter the web  site so the filtering must be done in Access. 
TIA
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From andy at minstersystems.co.uk  Tue Nov 14 05:44:57 2006
From: andy at minstersystems.co.uk (Andy Lacey)
Date: Tue, 14 Nov 2006 11:44:57 +0000
Subject: [AccessD] Offensive Words List
Message-ID: <20061114114500.BDD712BAE27@smtp2.nildram.co.uk>

Hi John

My customer's ISP has 'bad word' lists. I've exported them into text files
and can send them off-list if you want me to. They'll make you blush though!

--
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http://www.minstersystems.co.uk




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From: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving"
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
To: "accessd at databaseadvisors.com" <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Subject: [AccessD] Offensive Words List
Date: 14/11/06 10:46

Hi all

I'm down loading product enquiry details from a web site and then posting
out catalogues via snail mail. However I???m getting offensive names and
requests. I Need to filter out these obscenities. Does anyone have a list of
proscribed words and what is the approach to this problem? We are using
Windows and
Access XP.
I can't alter the web site so the filtering must be done in Access.
TIA
johnc
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From Gustav at cactus.dk  Tue Nov 14 05:53:13 2006
From: Gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Tue, 14 Nov 2006 12:53:13 +0100
Subject: [AccessD] Unable to bookmark after record is deleted
Message-ID: <s559bc57.066@cactus.dk>

Hi Lonnie

When you delete a record the bookmarks are destroyed.
Before you delete, retrieve the ID of the bookmarked record, delete, locate the bookmarked record by its ID, and reestablish the bookmark.

/gustav

>>> prodevmg at yahoo.com 14-11-2006 05:28:31 >>>
I have a process that deletes a record in a recordset of a subform via vba, then requeries the subform object. Then I try to move to another record using the bookmark and I get a message that says there is not current record for the recordset clone of the subform?  I know there are records, this only happens when I delete or insert a record into the underlying recordset.




From Johncliviger at aol.com  Tue Nov 14 06:04:46 2006
From: Johncliviger at aol.com (Johncliviger at aol.com)
Date: Tue, 14 Nov 2006 07:04:46 EST
Subject: [AccessD] Offensive Words List
Message-ID: <cfe.1d68705.328b0ade@aol.com>

Hi Andy
 
Thanks for the offer. I'll take you on it if I may. I've found a list on  
this site _http://www.badscience.net/?p=228_ (http://www.badscience.net/?p=228) 
 
but its not in a format I can use.
 
regards
 
johnc


From andy at minstersystems.co.uk  Tue Nov 14 06:12:09 2006
From: andy at minstersystems.co.uk (Andy Lacey)
Date: Tue, 14 Nov 2006 12:12:09 +0000
Subject: [AccessD] Offensive Words List
Message-ID: <20061114121212.BEBB62B5E2C@smtp2.nildram.co.uk>

On their way.

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To: "accessd at databaseadvisors.com" <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Offensive Words List
Date: 14/11/06 12:05


Hi Andy

Thanks for the offer. I'll take you on it if I may. I've found a list on
this site _http://www.badscience.net/?p=228_
(http://www.badscience.net/?p=228)

but its not in a format I can use.

regards

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From max at sherman.org.uk  Tue Nov 14 07:29:01 2006
From: max at sherman.org.uk (Max Home)
Date: Tue, 14 Nov 2006 13:29:01 -0000
Subject: [AccessD] Offensive Words List
In-Reply-To: <20061114114500.BDD712BAE27@smtp2.nildram.co.uk>
Message-ID: <004b01c707f0$da187590$8119fea9@Server>

Yes please Andy.  I support a charity with on-line merchandise and this may come in handy.
Regards
Max
Please send to max.wanadoo at gmail.com


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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Andy Lacey
Sent: Tuesday, November 14, 2006 11:45 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Offensive Words List

Hi John

My customer's ISP has 'bad word' lists. I've exported them into text files
and can send them off-list if you want me to. They'll make you blush though!

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http://www.minstersystems.co.uk




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<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
To: "accessd at databaseadvisors.com" <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Subject: [AccessD] Offensive Words List
Date: 14/11/06 10:46

Hi all

I'm down loading product enquiry details from a web site and then posting
out catalogues via snail mail. However I???m getting offensive names and
requests. I Need to filter out these obscenities. Does anyone have a list of
proscribed words and what is the approach to this problem? We are using
Windows and
Access XP.
I can't alter the web site so the filtering must be done in Access.
TIA
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From artful at rogers.com  Tue Nov 14 07:57:56 2006
From: artful at rogers.com (artful at rogers.com)
Date: Tue, 14 Nov 2006 05:57:56 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [AccessD] Requirements Development
Message-ID: <20061114135756.73846.qmail@web88204.mail.re2.yahoo.com>

What a timely arrival, given the thread about writing requirements.

http://newsletters.sdmediagroup.com/cgi-bin4/DM/y/h1mC0GGzBY0JSg0ErCM0E1

(You will probably have to register for this, but it's free.)

Arthur



From artful at rogers.com  Tue Nov 14 08:09:49 2006
From: artful at rogers.com (artful at rogers.com)
Date: Tue, 14 Nov 2006 06:09:49 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [AccessD] Unable to bookmark after record is deleted
Message-ID: <20061114140949.62082.qmail@web88212.mail.re2.yahoo.com>

This sounds as if you are creating the bookmark at the wrong moment.

Arthur

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From: Lonnie Johnson <prodevmg at yahoo.com>
To: AccessD solving' <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Monday, November 13, 2006 11:28:31 PM
Subject: [AccessD] Unable to bookmark after record is deleted

I have a process that deletes a record in a recordset of a subform via vba, then requeries the subform object. Then I try to move to another record using the bookmark and I get a message that says there is not current record for the recordset clone of the subform?  I know there are records, this only happens when I delete or insert a record into the underlying recordset.
 








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From artful at rogers.com  Tue Nov 14 08:11:17 2006
From: artful at rogers.com (artful at rogers.com)
Date: Tue, 14 Nov 2006 06:11:17 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [AccessD] ATA airport list for the DBA list
Message-ID: <20061114141117.63374.qmail@web88212.mail.re2.yahoo.com>

I'm running FF and not seeing anything weird. Looks just fine, and perhaps fancy, to me. 

Arthur

----- Original Message ----
From: Jim Lawrence <accessd at shaw.ca>
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Tuesday, November 14, 2006 12:03:37 AM
Subject: Re: [AccessD] ATA airport list for the DBA list

Hi Susan:

I have run FF and IE and am not sure what you are seeing... could you send
me a picture of the page your computer produces.

Thanks
Jim 

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Susan Harkins
Sent: Monday, November 13, 2006 7:30 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: Re: [AccessD] ATA airport list for the DBA list

Thanks Jim, but what's the big white overlay block just above the airplane?
Is something supposed to be there? 

Susan H. 

Hi All:

Please find on the front page of the DBA web site
(http://www.databaseadvisors.com) access to the ATA airport list as provided
by Art Fuller... Thank you very much Arthur.

Regards

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From Gustav at cactus.dk  Tue Nov 14 08:42:21 2006
From: Gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Tue, 14 Nov 2006 15:42:21 +0100
Subject: [AccessD] ATA airport list for the DBA list
Message-ID: <s559e401.073@cactus.dk>

Hi Susan

My browser mirrors the airplane left-right ...

>>> artful at rogers.com 14-11-2006 15:11:17 >>>
I'm running FF and not seeing anything weird. Looks just fine, and perhaps fancy, to me. 

Arthur

----- Original Message ----
From: Jim Lawrence <accessd at shaw.ca>
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Tuesday, November 14, 2006 12:03:37 AM
Subject: Re: [AccessD] ATA airport list for the DBA list

Hi Susan:

I have run FF and IE and am not sure what you are seeing... could you send
me a picture of the page your computer produces.

Thanks
Jim 

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com 
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Susan Harkins
Sent: Monday, November 13, 2006 7:30 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: Re: [AccessD] ATA airport list for the DBA list

Thanks Jim, but what's the big white overlay block just above the airplane?
Is something supposed to be there? 

Susan H. 



From JHewson at karta.com  Tue Nov 14 08:47:14 2006
From: JHewson at karta.com (Jim Hewson)
Date: Tue, 14 Nov 2006 08:47:14 -0600
Subject: [AccessD] ATA airport list for the DBA list
Message-ID: <9C382E065F54AE48BC3AA7925DCBB01C04ABAE3C@karta-exc-int.Karta.com>

It looks fine to me except the Airplane picture is backwards.
The plane is taking off to the right and should be taking off to the left.
The lettering on the aircraft is backwards.

Jim 
jhewson at karta.com
 
-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gustav Brock
Sent: Tuesday, November 14, 2006 8:42 AM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: Re: [AccessD] ATA airport list for the DBA list

Hi Susan

My browser mirrors the airplane left-right ...

>>> artful at rogers.com 14-11-2006 15:11:17 >>>
I'm running FF and not seeing anything weird. Looks just fine, and perhaps fancy, to me. 

Arthur

----- Original Message ----
From: Jim Lawrence <accessd at shaw.ca>
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Tuesday, November 14, 2006 12:03:37 AM
Subject: Re: [AccessD] ATA airport list for the DBA list

Hi Susan:

I have run FF and IE and am not sure what you are seeing... could you send
me a picture of the page your computer produces.

Thanks
Jim 

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com 
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Susan Harkins
Sent: Monday, November 13, 2006 7:30 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: Re: [AccessD] ATA airport list for the DBA list

Thanks Jim, but what's the big white overlay block just above the airplane?
Is something supposed to be there? 

Susan H. 

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From cfoust at infostatsystems.com  Tue Nov 14 10:20:56 2006
From: cfoust at infostatsystems.com (Charlotte Foust)
Date: Tue, 14 Nov 2006 08:20:56 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] XP-mde on A2003?
In-Reply-To: <006d01c7078d$f7ac0ee0$657aa8c0@m6805>
Message-ID: <F55048AF7E974F429BB24597D7355EEA1783D0@INFOSERVER04.infostat.local>

I realize that, but with one machine running XP and one running 2003,
there doesn't appear to be an A2K in the mix to create that pesky mde.

Charlotte Foust 

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of JWColby
Sent: Monday, November 13, 2006 5:41 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: Re: [AccessD] XP-mde on A2003?

IIRC He never actually said he needed 2003 specific stuff, only that it
needed to run on 2003.  Thus do the entire thing in 2000.  Make the MDE
in 20000.  Then run it in 2000, 2002 or 2003 as required.

John W. Colby
Colby Consulting
www.ColbyConsulting.com

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Charlotte
Foust
Sent: Monday, November 13, 2006 7:30 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] XP-mde on A2003?

But you can't create a 2000 format mde from either XP or 2003, only from
2000.

Charlotte Foust 

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of
DWUTKA at marlow.com
Sent: Monday, November 13, 2006 4:16 PM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: Re: [AccessD] XP-mde on A2003?

Probably already answered, but just put it in 2000 format, that way it's
usable to both versions.

Drew

-----Original Message-----
From: Lembit Soobik [mailto:lembit.dbamail at t-online.de]
Sent: Saturday, November 11, 2006 12:23 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: [AccessD] XP-mde on A2003?

Hi everyone,
I have been asked to write an Access db for a friend.
I have Access-XP (2002) on my machine
he has Access 2003

can he run an mde from me on his machine?

thank you
Lembit

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From rl_stewart at highstream.net  Tue Nov 14 10:32:25 2006
From: rl_stewart at highstream.net (Robert L. Stewart)
Date: Tue, 14 Nov 2006 10:32:25 -0600
Subject: [AccessD] XP-mde on A2003?
In-Reply-To: <mailman.14025.1163521322.17650.accessd@databaseadvisors.co
 m>
References: <mailman.14025.1163521322.17650.accessd@databaseadvisors.com>
Message-ID: <200611141636.kAEGaAq01765@databaseadvisors.com>

Lembit,

The simple answer is yes, he can run it.

Robert

At 10:22 AM 11/14/2006, you wrote:
>From: Lembit Soobik [mailto:lembit.dbamail at t-online.de]
>Sent: Saturday, November 11, 2006 12:23 PM
>To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
>Subject: [AccessD] XP-mde on A2003?
>
>Hi everyone,
>I have been asked to write an Access db for a friend.
>I have Access-XP (2002) on my machine
>he has Access 2003
>
>can he run an mde from me on his machine?
>
>thank you
>Lembit




From accessd at shaw.ca  Tue Nov 14 10:43:39 2006
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Tue, 14 Nov 2006 08:43:39 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] ATA airport list for the DBA list
In-Reply-To: <9C382E065F54AE48BC3AA7925DCBB01C04ABAE3C@karta-exc-int.Karta.com>
Message-ID: <0J8Q00IBMBQLNHR3@l-daemon>

Hi Jim:

According to what I read, movement on a graphic should be from left to right
as this is sort-of natural to the Unicode language reading people. I was
actually hoping that Adobe Photoshop would automatically flip the letters.

Jim

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim Hewson
Sent: Tuesday, November 14, 2006 6:47 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] ATA airport list for the DBA list

It looks fine to me except the Airplane picture is backwards.
The plane is taking off to the right and should be taking off to the left.
The lettering on the aircraft is backwards.

Jim 
jhewson at karta.com
 
-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gustav Brock
Sent: Tuesday, November 14, 2006 8:42 AM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: Re: [AccessD] ATA airport list for the DBA list

Hi Susan

My browser mirrors the airplane left-right ...

>>> artful at rogers.com 14-11-2006 15:11:17 >>>
I'm running FF and not seeing anything weird. Looks just fine, and perhaps
fancy, to me. 

Arthur

----- Original Message ----
From: Jim Lawrence <accessd at shaw.ca>
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Tuesday, November 14, 2006 12:03:37 AM
Subject: Re: [AccessD] ATA airport list for the DBA list

Hi Susan:

I have run FF and IE and am not sure what you are seeing... could you send
me a picture of the page your computer produces.

Thanks
Jim 

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com 
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Susan Harkins
Sent: Monday, November 13, 2006 7:30 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: Re: [AccessD] ATA airport list for the DBA list

Thanks Jim, but what's the big white overlay block just above the airplane?
Is something supposed to be there? 

Susan H. 

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From ssharkins at setel.com  Tue Nov 14 11:15:37 2006
From: ssharkins at setel.com (Susan Harkins)
Date: Tue, 14 Nov 2006 12:15:37 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] ATA airport list for the DBA list
In-Reply-To: <s559e401.073@cactus.dk>
Message-ID: <002101c70810$87dfd280$f1bc2ad1@SUSANONE>

I see one plane. Above it and under the page title, there's a rectangular
white box. The only reason I can tell is because it blocks the gray border. 

Susan H. 

My browser mirrors the airplane left-right ...

>>> artful at rogers.com 14-11-2006 15:11:17 >>>
I'm running FF and not seeing anything weird. Looks just fine, and perhaps
fancy, to me. 




From bchacc at san.rr.com  Tue Nov 14 11:46:51 2006
From: bchacc at san.rr.com (Beach Access Software)
Date: Tue, 14 Nov 2006 09:46:51 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] FW: Partition Function
Message-ID: <007901c70814$de0f20d0$6a01a8c0@HAL9005>

Dear List:

 

FYI.  From another developer.

 

Rocky

 

 

  _____  

From: joe anderson [mailto:jka at alldatacorp.com] 
Sent: Monday, November 13, 2006 9:55 AM
To: Subject: Partition Function

 

Well ... here is a VBA function that I've never seen in 14 years!!  Looks
like it could be pretty useful!!! It's not even in Getz's book ... at least
not in the index at the back!

 

I found it in a cool little book Titled "Fixing Access Annyoances' ... a$20
book that has already paid for itself!  By .. Phil Mitchell and Evan
Callahan.

 

jka


" :-1"

" 0: 4"

" 95: 99"

" 100: "


20

199

10

" : 19"

" 20: 29"

" 190: 199"

" 200: "


100

1010

20

" : 99"

" 100: 119"

" 1000: 1010"

" 1011: "

 

In the table shown above, the third line shows the result when start and
stop define a set of numbers that can't be evenly divided by interval. The
last range extends to stop (11 numbers) even though interval is 20.

If necessary, Partition returns a range with enough leading spaces so that
there are the same number of characters to the left and right of the colon
as there are characters in stop, plus one. This ensures that if you use
Partition with other numbers, the resulting text will be handled properly
during any subsequent sort operation.

If interval is 1, the range is number:number, regardless of the start and
stop arguments. For example, if interval is 1, number is 100 and stop is
1000, Partition returns " 100: 100".

If any of the parts is Null <javascript:hhobj_5.Click()> , Partition returns
a Null.


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From bchacc at san.rr.com  Tue Nov 14 12:12:50 2006
From: bchacc at san.rr.com (Beach Access Software)
Date: Tue, 14 Nov 2006 10:12:50 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] FW: Partition Function
In-Reply-To: <007901c70814$de0f20d0$6a01a8c0@HAL9005>
Message-ID: <008101c70818$7f84dec0$6a01a8c0@HAL9005>

Well, that didn't forward very well.  Here's a link to the MSDN page
describing it:

http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/default.asp?url=/library/en-us/vbenlr98/ht
ml/vafctpartition.asp


Rocky


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Beach Access
Software
Sent: Tuesday, November 14, 2006 9:47 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] FW: Partition Function

Dear List:

 

FYI.  From another developer.

 

Rocky

 

 

  _____  

From: joe anderson [mailto:jka at alldatacorp.com] 
Sent: Monday, November 13, 2006 9:55 AM
To: Subject: Partition Function

 

Well ... here is a VBA function that I've never seen in 14 years!!  Looks
like it could be pretty useful!!! It's not even in Getz's book ... at least
not in the index at the back!

 

I found it in a cool little book Titled "Fixing Access Annyoances' ... a$20
book that has already paid for itself!  By .. Phil Mitchell and Evan
Callahan.

 

jka


" :-1"

" 0: 4"

" 95: 99"

" 100: "


20

199

10

" : 19"

" 20: 29"

" 190: 199"

" 200: "


100

1010

20

" : 99"

" 100: 119"

" 1000: 1010"

" 1011: "

 

In the table shown above, the third line shows the result when start and
stop define a set of numbers that can't be evenly divided by interval. The
last range extends to stop (11 numbers) even though interval is 20.

If necessary, Partition returns a range with enough leading spaces so that
there are the same number of characters to the left and right of the colon
as there are characters in stop, plus one. This ensures that if you use
Partition with other numbers, the resulting text will be handled properly
during any subsequent sort operation.

If interval is 1, the range is number:number, regardless of the start and
stop arguments. For example, if interval is 1, number is 100 and stop is
1000, Partition returns " 100: 100".

If any of the parts is Null <javascript:hhobj_5.Click()> , Partition returns
a Null.


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From lembit.dbamail at t-online.de  Tue Nov 14 12:19:29 2006
From: lembit.dbamail at t-online.de (Lembit Soobik)
Date: Tue, 14 Nov 2006 19:19:29 +0100
Subject: [AccessD] XP-mde on A2003?
References: <mailman.14025.1163521322.17650.accessd@databaseadvisors.com>
	<200611141636.kAEGaAq01765@databaseadvisors.com>
Message-ID: <001a01c70819$6d7187f0$1800a8c0@s1800>

Thanks everyone for answering.
I have made a little A2002 MDE and sent him.
will let you all know.

Lembit

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From: "Robert L. Stewart" <rl_stewart at highstream.net>
To: <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Cc: <lembit.dbamail at t-online.de>
Sent: Tuesday, November 14, 2006 5:32 PM
Subject: Re: [AccessD] XP-mde on A2003?


> Lembit,
> 
> The simple answer is yes, he can run it.
> 
> Robert
> 
> At 10:22 AM 11/14/2006, you wrote:
>>From: Lembit Soobik [mailto:lembit.dbamail at t-online.de]
>>Sent: Saturday, November 11, 2006 12:23 PM
>>To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
>>Subject: [AccessD] XP-mde on A2003?
>>
>>Hi everyone,
>>I have been asked to write an Access db for a friend.
>>I have Access-XP (2002) on my machine
>>he has Access 2003
>>
>>can he run an mde from me on his machine?
>>
>>thank you
>>Lembit
> 
> 
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From artful at rogers.com  Tue Nov 14 12:20:41 2006
From: artful at rogers.com (artful at rogers.com)
Date: Tue, 14 Nov 2006 10:20:41 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [AccessD] Useful Lists
Message-ID: <20061114182042.41237.qmail@web88209.mail.re2.yahoo.com>

On the basis of the thread about airport lists, I proposed to Jim Lawrence that we accumulate a bunch of similar lists. As my father said when I joined the CDN Air Force at 17, "Don't volunteer for anything." O well. Jim has invited me to spearhead the acquisition of said lists, and I have accepted the assignment. 

So, to all of you listers, three questions:

1. What lists do you possess that you think would be useful to your fellow AccessD/dba-SQL listers?
2. What lists do you lack that you desire?

(I couldn't resist the old programmer's joke. There are three types of programmers -- those who can count and those who can't.)

Chances are that more than one of you may volunteer to contribute similar or identical lists. The latter is easy to deal with. The former is a little tougher, since it might require UNIONing several lists, but that's ok.

I have one list ready to go, which is the list of words corresponding to letters that travel agents use to spell names. I think it is identical to the similar list from the military, but perhaps not. (In case you don't know what I mean, Able Baker Charlie etc.)

I also have another list of cities within North America, and states and provinces to correspond. It is not ready to go, there are some duplicates, but I could prune the dupes. The list consists only of those cities into which the company I was formerly associated with sold products, but it numbers about 5,000 cities, give or take 3. Far from exhaustive, but a good start, and similar lists could easily be UNIONed. That leaves out all the listers uninterested in cities in North America, but listers residing elsewhere might be able to contribute more cities. On this one, there is a difficulty. Within North America, there are states and provinces. In Switzerland, there are cantons.

On this subject, I have just done some searches in dictionary.com and come up with some hilarious definitions:

City -- an important town
Town -- a large village
Village -- a small community or group of houses in a rural area, larger than a
hamlet and usually smaller than a town, and sometimes (as in parts of
the U.S.) incorporated as a municipality.
Hamlet -- British. a village without a church of its own, belonging to the parish of another village or town.
County (the richest by far) --
1.the largest administrative division of a U.S. state: Miami, Florida, is in Dade County.  

2.one of the chief administrative divisions of a country or state, as in Great Britain and Ireland. 

3.one of the larger divisions for purposes of local administration, as in Canada and New Zealand. 

4.the territory of a county, esp. its rural areas, as in: "We farmed out in the county before moving to town.".  

5.the inhabitants of a county, as in, "It was supposed to be a secret, but you told the whole county.".  

6.the domain of a count or earl. 


All these years I have been under the (clearly false) impression that precise population-numbers defined these terms. Apparently I have wrong, lo these decades. I have just taken a local poll (only 4 people) and the agreement here is that a city is 100,000 people or more; a town is 999,999 people or fewer; a village is 2,000 people or fewer; a hamlet is 500 people or fewer. We four Canadians readily agreed on these numbers, but that might be something we picked up in school that has no relation to the larger world.

Arthur



From markamatte at hotmail.com  Tue Nov 14 12:50:01 2006
From: markamatte at hotmail.com (Mark A Matte)
Date: Tue, 14 Nov 2006 18:50:01 +0000
Subject: [AccessD] FW: Partition Function
Message-ID: <BAY127-F351E899F5BBDD87D54EC77D2EB0@phx.gbl>

Thanks Rocky...

I do a lot of age grouping on age of cases.  This beats the heck out of the 
convoluted IIF statements I've been using.

Thanks,

Mark A. Matte

>From: "Beach Access Software" <bchacc at san.rr.com>
>Reply-To: Access Developers discussion and problem 
>solving<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
>To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem 
>solving'"<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
>Subject: Re: [AccessD] FW: Partition Function
>Date: Tue, 14 Nov 2006 10:12:50 -0800
>
>Well, that didn't forward very well.  Here's a link to the MSDN page
>describing it:
>
>http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/default.asp?url=/library/en-us/vbenlr98/ht
>ml/vafctpartition.asp
>
>
>Rocky
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Beach Access
>Software
>Sent: Tuesday, November 14, 2006 9:47 AM
>To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
>Subject: [AccessD] FW: Partition Function
>
>Dear List:
>
>
>
>FYI.  From another developer.
>
>
>
>Rocky
>
>
>
>
>
>   _____
>
>From: joe anderson [mailto:jka at alldatacorp.com]
>Sent: Monday, November 13, 2006 9:55 AM
>To: Subject: Partition Function
>
>
>
>Well ... here is a VBA function that I've never seen in 14 years!!  Looks
>like it could be pretty useful!!! It's not even in Getz's book ... at least
>not in the index at the back!
>
>
>
>I found it in a cool little book Titled "Fixing Access Annyoances' ... a$20
>book that has already paid for itself!  By .. Phil Mitchell and Evan
>Callahan.
>
>
>
>jka
>
>
>" :-1"
>
>" 0: 4"
>
>" 95: 99"
>
>" 100: "
>
>
>20
>
>199
>
>10
>
>" : 19"
>
>" 20: 29"
>
>" 190: 199"
>
>" 200: "
>
>
>100
>
>1010
>
>20
>
>" : 99"
>
>" 100: 119"
>
>" 1000: 1010"
>
>" 1011: "
>
>
>
>In the table shown above, the third line shows the result when start and
>stop define a set of numbers that can't be evenly divided by interval. The
>last range extends to stop (11 numbers) even though interval is 20.
>
>If necessary, Partition returns a range with enough leading spaces so that
>there are the same number of characters to the left and right of the colon
>as there are characters in stop, plus one. This ensures that if you use
>Partition with other numbers, the resulting text will be handled properly
>during any subsequent sort operation.
>
>If interval is 1, the range is number:number, regardless of the start and
>stop arguments. For example, if interval is 1, number is 100 and stop is
>1000, Partition returns " 100: 100".
>
>If any of the parts is Null <javascript:hhobj_5.Click()> , Partition 
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From markamatte at hotmail.com  Tue Nov 14 12:57:46 2006
From: markamatte at hotmail.com (Mark A Matte)
Date: Tue, 14 Nov 2006 18:57:46 +0000
Subject: [AccessD] Useful Lists
Message-ID: <BAY127-F20191F5945F8FBB375439CD2EB0@phx.gbl>

Arthur,

"I think it is identical to the similar
list from the military, but perhaps not. (In case you don't know what I 
mean,
Able Baker Charlie etc.)
"
Refers to the phonetic alphabet.  US military version would be "Alpha, 
Bravo,Charlie"

Of all the lists you mentioned...its probably the only one I could 
contribute to.  I know that different occupations and english speaking 
peoples use a different variation of the list.

I'd be glad to help any way I can.

Thanks,

Mark A. Matte

>From: artful at rogers.com
>Reply-To: Access Developers discussion and problem 
>solving<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
>To: "AccessD at databaseadvisors. com" <AccessD at databaseadvisors.com>,   
>dba-SQLServer <dba-SQLServer at databaseadvisors.com>
>Subject: [AccessD] Useful Lists
>Date: Tue, 14 Nov 2006 10:20:41 -0800 (PST)
>
>On the basis of the thread about airport lists, I proposed to Jim Lawrence 
>that we accumulate a bunch of similar lists. As my father said when I 
>joined the CDN Air Force at 17, "Don't volunteer for anything." O well. Jim 
>has invited me to spearhead the acquisition of said lists, and I have 
>accepted the assignment.
>
>So, to all of you listers, three questions:
>
>1. What lists do you possess that you think would be useful to your fellow 
>AccessD/dba-SQL listers?
>2. What lists do you lack that you desire?
>
>(I couldn't resist the old programmer's joke. There are three types of 
>programmers -- those who can count and those who can't.)
>
>Chances are that more than one of you may volunteer to contribute similar 
>or identical lists. The latter is easy to deal with. The former is a little 
>tougher, since it might require UNIONing several lists, but that's ok.
>
>I have one list ready to go, which is the list of words corresponding to 
>letters that travel agents use to spell names. I think it is identical to 
>the similar list from the military, but perhaps not. (In case you don't 
>know what I mean, Able Baker Charlie etc.)
>
>I also have another list of cities within North America, and states and 
>provinces to correspond. It is not ready to go, there are some duplicates, 
>but I could prune the dupes. The list consists only of those cities into 
>which the company I was formerly associated with sold products, but it 
>numbers about 5,000 cities, give or take 3. Far from exhaustive, but a good 
>start, and similar lists could easily be UNIONed. That leaves out all the 
>listers uninterested in cities in North America, but listers residing 
>elsewhere might be able to contribute more cities. On this one, there is a 
>difficulty. Within North America, there are states and provinces. In 
>Switzerland, there are cantons.
>
>On this subject, I have just done some searches in dictionary.com and come 
>up with some hilarious definitions:
>
>City -- an important town
>Town -- a large village
>Village -- a small community or group of houses in a rural area, larger 
>than a
>hamlet and usually smaller than a town, and sometimes (as in parts of
>the U.S.) incorporated as a municipality.
>Hamlet -- British. a village without a church of its own, belonging to the 
>parish of another village or town.
>County (the richest by far) --
>1.the largest administrative division of a U.S. state: Miami, Florida, is 
>in Dade County.
>
>2.one of the chief administrative divisions of a country or state, as in 
>Great Britain and Ireland.
>
>3.one of the larger divisions for purposes of local administration, as in 
>Canada and New Zealand.
>
>4.the territory of a county, esp. its rural areas, as in: "We farmed out in 
>the county before moving to town.".
>
>5.the inhabitants of a county, as in, "It was supposed to be a secret, but 
>you told the whole county.".
>
>6.the domain of a count or earl.
>
>
>All these years I have been under the (clearly false) impression that 
>precise population-numbers defined these terms. Apparently I have wrong, lo 
>these decades. I have just taken a local poll (only 4 people) and the 
>agreement here is that a city is 100,000 people or more; a town is 999,999 
>people or fewer; a village is 2,000 people or fewer; a hamlet is 500 people 
>or fewer. We four Canadians readily agreed on these numbers, but that might 
>be something we picked up in school that has no relation to the larger 
>world.
>
>Arthur
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From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com  Tue Nov 14 12:58:53 2006
From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (JWColby)
Date: Tue, 14 Nov 2006 13:58:53 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] XP-mde on A2003?
In-Reply-To: <F55048AF7E974F429BB24597D7355EEA1783D0@INFOSERVER04.infostat.local>
Message-ID: <000d01c7081e$ee8eb740$657aa8c0@m6805>

Ohhhhhh.  Never mind! 


John W. Colby
Colby Consulting
www.ColbyConsulting.com

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Charlotte Foust
Sent: Tuesday, November 14, 2006 11:21 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] XP-mde on A2003?

I realize that, but with one machine running XP and one running 2003, there
doesn't appear to be an A2K in the mix to create that pesky mde.

Charlotte Foust 

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of JWColby
Sent: Monday, November 13, 2006 5:41 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: Re: [AccessD] XP-mde on A2003?

IIRC He never actually said he needed 2003 specific stuff, only that it
needed to run on 2003.  Thus do the entire thing in 2000.  Make the MDE in
20000.  Then run it in 2000, 2002 or 2003 as required.

John W. Colby
Colby Consulting
www.ColbyConsulting.com

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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Charlotte Foust
Sent: Monday, November 13, 2006 7:30 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] XP-mde on A2003?

But you can't create a 2000 format mde from either XP or 2003, only from
2000.

Charlotte Foust 

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of DWUTKA at marlow.com
Sent: Monday, November 13, 2006 4:16 PM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: Re: [AccessD] XP-mde on A2003?

Probably already answered, but just put it in 2000 format, that way it's
usable to both versions.

Drew

-----Original Message-----
From: Lembit Soobik [mailto:lembit.dbamail at t-online.de]
Sent: Saturday, November 11, 2006 12:23 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: [AccessD] XP-mde on A2003?

Hi everyone,
I have been asked to write an Access db for a friend.
I have Access-XP (2002) on my machine
he has Access 2003

can he run an mde from me on his machine?

thank you
Lembit

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From artful at rogers.com  Tue Nov 14 13:44:58 2006
From: artful at rogers.com (artful at rogers.com)
Date: Tue, 14 Nov 2006 11:44:58 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [AccessD] Useful Lists
Message-ID: <20061114194458.44797.qmail@web88203.mail.re2.yahoo.com>

So help! Send me your list. I will rationalize it with the travel agency list, perhaps using columns to designate the lists. After all, we only have 26 letters. Shamil and various others could of course contribute additional alphabets. This obviously doesn't make sense in the various dialects of China, for example. Incidentally, I have heard or read that there are precisely 100 surnames in China. I find this difficult to believe, but it was explained to me as follows: Chang, Chong, Chuang, etc. all refer to the same ideogram, and the differences relate to dialects rather than their single symbolic reference.

I have no idea whether this is correct. But it wouldn't strike me as remarkable if it were. Mind you, the decision about exactly 100 names would strike me as remarkable. If we have any Mandarin/Cantonese/Mongolian/etc. people, it would be useful to receive your input on this subject. A long time ago I was in Japan and used a computer that did translations from a phonetic language to the Japanese characters. I forget the names, but the basic idea was that one could type in "katana" or "shodan" or "wazashi", and this would translate into the appropriate ideograms, occasionally resulting in a listbox of similar words, along with their symbols. This was a long time ago, and I assume that the software has advanced vastly from there, but I haven't been back so I don't know.

Returning to airport codes, I think that the world uses the English list, and that pilots use English as the lingua franca, but I'm not sure about that. Listers outside North America, please assist this ignorant Canadian.

Arthur

----- Original Message ----
From: Mark A Matte <markamatte at hotmail.com>
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Sent: Tuesday, November 14, 2006 1:57:46 PM
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Useful Lists

Arthur,

"I think it is identical to the similar
list from the military, but perhaps not. (In case you don't know what I 
mean,
Able Baker Charlie etc.)
"
Refers to the phonetic alphabet.  US military version would be "Alpha, 
Bravo,Charlie"

Of all the lists you mentioned...its probably the only one I could 
contribute to.  I know that different occupations and english speaking 
peoples use a different variation of the list.

I'd be glad to help any way I can.

Thanks,

Mark A. Matte

>From: artful at rogers.com
>Reply-To: Access Developers discussion and problem 
>solving<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
>To: "AccessD at databaseadvisors. com" <AccessD at databaseadvisors.com>,   
>dba-SQLServer <dba-SQLServer at databaseadvisors.com>
>Subject: [AccessD] Useful Lists
>Date: Tue, 14 Nov 2006 10:20:41 -0800 (PST)
>
>On the basis of the thread about airport lists, I proposed to Jim Lawrence 
>that we accumulate a bunch of similar lists. As my father said when I 
>joined the CDN Air Force at 17, "Don't volunteer for anything." O well. Jim 
>has invited me to spearhead the acquisition of said lists, and I have 
>accepted the assignment.
>
>So, to all of you listers, three questions:
>
>1. What lists do you possess that you think would be useful to your fellow 
>AccessD/dba-SQL listers?
>2. What lists do you lack that you desire?
>
>(I couldn't resist the old programmer's joke. There are three types of 
>programmers -- those who can count and those who can't.)
>
>Chances are that more than one of you may volunteer to contribute similar 
>or identical lists. The latter is easy to deal with. The former is a little 
>tougher, since it might require UNIONing several lists, but that's ok.
>
>I have one list ready to go, which is the list of words corresponding to 
>letters that travel agents use to spell names. I think it is identical to 
>the similar list from the military, but perhaps not. (In case you don't 
>know what I mean, Able Baker Charlie etc.)
>
>I also have another list of cities within North America, and states and 
>provinces to correspond. It is not ready to go, there are some duplicates, 
>but I could prune the dupes. The list consists only of those cities into 
>which the company I was formerly associated with sold products, but it 
>numbers about 5,000 cities, give or take 3. Far from exhaustive, but a good 
>start, and similar lists could easily be UNIONed. That leaves out all the 
>listers uninterested in cities in North America, but listers residing 
>elsewhere might be able to contribute more cities. On this one, there is a 
>difficulty. Within North America, there are states and provinces. In 
>Switzerland, there are cantons.
>
>On this subject, I have just done some searches in dictionary.com and come 
>up with some hilarious definitions:
>
>City -- an important town
>Town -- a large village
>Village -- a small community or group of houses in a rural area, larger 
>than a
>hamlet and usually smaller than a town, and sometimes (as in parts of
>the U.S.) incorporated as a municipality.
>Hamlet -- British. a village without a church of its own, belonging to the 
>parish of another village or town.
>County (the richest by far) --
>1.the largest administrative division of a U.S. state: Miami, Florida, is 
>in Dade County.
>
>2.one of the chief administrative divisions of a country or state, as in 
>Great Britain and Ireland.
>
>3.one of the larger divisions for purposes of local administration, as in 
>Canada and New Zealand.
>
>4.the territory of a county, esp. its rural areas, as in: "We farmed out in 
>the county before moving to town.".
>
>5.the inhabitants of a county, as in, "It was supposed to be a secret, but 
>you told the whole county.".
>
>6.the domain of a count or earl.
>
>
>All these years I have been under the (clearly false) impression that 
>precise population-numbers defined these terms. Apparently I have wrong, lo 
>these decades. I have just taken a local poll (only 4 people) and the 
>agreement here is that a city is 100,000 people or more; a town is 999,999 
>people or fewer; a village is 2,000 people or fewer; a hamlet is 500 people 
>or fewer. We four Canadians readily agreed on these numbers, but that might 
>be something we picked up in school that has no relation to the larger 
>world.
>
>Arthur
>
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From shamil at users.mns.ru  Tue Nov 14 14:39:51 2006
From: shamil at users.mns.ru (Shamil Salakhetdinov)
Date: Tue, 14 Nov 2006 23:39:51 +0300
Subject: [AccessD] Useful Lists
In-Reply-To: <20061114194458.44797.qmail@web88203.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <000401c7082d$08e40420$6401a8c0@nant>

<<<
I think that the world uses the English list, and that pilots use English as
the lingua franca, but I'm not sure about that.
>>>
Arthur,

Russian pilots do use English when they fly abroad.
I think you're correct when you're saying than English is a lingua franca
for all the pilots who work on international flights.

Your list as far as I see is IATA airport codes' list (this is what I was
looking for). It's described here -
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IATA_airport_code

The airport codes from this list are used in Russia and internationally as
far as I have seen when I was abroad.

There is also ICAO airport codes' list AFAIS
(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ICAO_airport_code)


--
Shamil
 

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of artful at rogers.com
Sent: Tuesday, November 14, 2006 10:45 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Useful Lists

So help! Send me your list. I will rationalize it with the travel agency
list, perhaps using columns to designate the lists. After all, we only have
26 letters. Shamil and various others could of course contribute additional
alphabets. This obviously doesn't make sense in the various dialects of
China, for example. Incidentally, I have heard or read that there are
precisely 100 surnames in China. I find this difficult to believe, but it
was explained to me as follows: Chang, Chong, Chuang, etc. all refer to the
same ideogram, and the differences relate to dialects rather than their
single symbolic reference.

I have no idea whether this is correct. But it wouldn't strike me as
remarkable if it were. Mind you, the decision about exactly 100 names would
strike me as remarkable. If we have any Mandarin/Cantonese/Mongolian/etc.
people, it would be useful to receive your input on this subject. A long
time ago I was in Japan and used a computer that did translations from a
phonetic language to the Japanese characters. I forget the names, but the
basic idea was that one could type in "katana" or "shodan" or "wazashi", and
this would translate into the appropriate ideograms, occasionally resulting
in a listbox of similar words, along with their symbols. This was a long
time ago, and I assume that the software has advanced vastly from there, but
I haven't been back so I don't know.

Returning to airport codes, I think that the world uses the English list,
and that pilots use English as the lingua franca, but I'm not sure about
that. Listers outside North America, please assist this ignorant Canadian.

Arthur

----- Original Message ----
From: Mark A Matte <markamatte at hotmail.com>
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Sent: Tuesday, November 14, 2006 1:57:46 PM
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Useful Lists

Arthur,

"I think it is identical to the similar
list from the military, but perhaps not. (In case you don't know what I 
mean,
Able Baker Charlie etc.)
"
Refers to the phonetic alphabet.  US military version would be "Alpha, 
Bravo,Charlie"

Of all the lists you mentioned...its probably the only one I could 
contribute to.  I know that different occupations and english speaking 
peoples use a different variation of the list.

I'd be glad to help any way I can.

Thanks,

Mark A. Matte

<<< tail skipped >>>



From artful at rogers.com  Tue Nov 14 14:46:55 2006
From: artful at rogers.com (artful at rogers.com)
Date: Tue, 14 Nov 2006 12:46:55 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [AccessD] Useful Lists
Message-ID: <20061114204655.54503.qmail@web88214.mail.re2.yahoo.com>

Glad to read your confirmation. Perhaps I ought to expand this table to include columns for the various coding systems.

Arthur

----- Original Message ----
From: Shamil Salakhetdinov <shamil at users.mns.ru>
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Tuesday, November 14, 2006 3:39:51 PM
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Useful Lists

<<<
I think that the world uses the English list, and that pilots use English as
the lingua franca, but I'm not sure about that.
>>>
Arthur,

Russian pilots do use English when they fly abroad.
I think you're correct when you're saying than English is a lingua franca
for all the pilots who work on international flights.

Your list as far as I see is IATA airport codes' list (this is what I was
looking for). It's described here -
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IATA_airport_code

The airport codes from this list are used in Russia and internationally as
far as I have seen when I was abroad.

There is also ICAO airport codes' list AFAIS
(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ICAO_airport_code)


--
Shamil
 

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of artful at rogers.com
Sent: Tuesday, November 14, 2006 10:45 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Useful Lists

So help! Send me your list. I will rationalize it with the travel agency
list, perhaps using columns to designate the lists. After all, we only have
26 letters. Shamil and various others could of course contribute additional
alphabets. This obviously doesn't make sense in the various dialects of
China, for example. Incidentally, I have heard or read that there are
precisely 100 surnames in China. I find this difficult to believe, but it
was explained to me as follows: Chang, Chong, Chuang, etc. all refer to the
same ideogram, and the differences relate to dialects rather than their
single symbolic reference.

I have no idea whether this is correct. But it wouldn't strike me as
remarkable if it were. Mind you, the decision about exactly 100 names would
strike me as remarkable. If we have any Mandarin/Cantonese/Mongolian/etc.
people, it would be useful to receive your input on this subject. A long
time ago I was in Japan and used a computer that did translations from a
phonetic language to the Japanese characters. I forget the names, but the
basic idea was that one could type in "katana" or "shodan" or "wazashi", and
this would translate into the appropriate ideograms, occasionally resulting
in a listbox of similar words, along with their symbols. This was a long
time ago, and I assume that the software has advanced vastly from there, but
I haven't been back so I don't know.

Returning to airport codes, I think that the world uses the English list,
and that pilots use English as the lingua franca, but I'm not sure about
that. Listers outside North America, please assist this ignorant Canadian.

Arthur

----- Original Message ----
From: Mark A Matte <markamatte at hotmail.com>
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Sent: Tuesday, November 14, 2006 1:57:46 PM
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Useful Lists

Arthur,

"I think it is identical to the similar
list from the military, but perhaps not. (In case you don't know what I 
mean,
Able Baker Charlie etc.)
"
Refers to the phonetic alphabet.  US military version would be "Alpha, 
Bravo,Charlie"

Of all the lists you mentioned...its probably the only one I could 
contribute to.  I know that different occupations and english speaking 
peoples use a different variation of the list.

I'd be glad to help any way I can.

Thanks,

Mark A. Matte

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From stuart at lexacorp.com.pg  Tue Nov 14 15:01:07 2006
From: stuart at lexacorp.com.pg (Stuart McLachlan)
Date: Wed, 15 Nov 2006 07:01:07 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] FW: Partition Function
In-Reply-To: <008101c70818$7f84dec0$6a01a8c0@HAL9005>
References: <007901c70814$de0f20d0$6a01a8c0@HAL9005>,
	<008101c70818$7f84dec0$6a01a8c0@HAL9005>
Message-ID: <455A2E93.5324.1328D9F7@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>

On 14 Nov 2006 at 10:12, Beach Access Software wrote:

> Well, that didn't forward very well.  Here's a link to the MSDN page
> describing it:
> 
> http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/default.asp?url=/library/en-us/vbenlr98/ht
> ml/vafctpartition.asp

Or just look it up the VBA Help in Access.

You'll find it under Contents | Functions | M-P | Partition

It's well worth browsing through Contents | Functions periodically.  There 
a many useful but little used functions in VBA.

-- 
Stuart




From markamatte at hotmail.com  Tue Nov 14 15:02:04 2006
From: markamatte at hotmail.com (Mark A Matte)
Date: Tue, 14 Nov 2006 21:02:04 +0000
Subject: [AccessD] Useful Lists
In-Reply-To: <20061114194458.44797.qmail@web88203.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <BAY127-F163D414A318865E5BA5A37D2EB0@phx.gbl>



Arthur,

I searched for a list that I could modify/verify easily and ran into a 
number of interesting things.  The US military changed the phonetic alphabet 
a number of times.  So I have put together a spreadsheet with the following 
that I will send off list:

Morse code for letters and numbers.
US phonetic Alphabet used in 1913,1927,1938,WWII, and 1957-Present
Pronunciation for each of the currently used

Feel free to use/modify however necessary.  If you have any 
questions...please let me know.

Thanks,

Mark A. Matte


>From: artful at rogers.com
>Reply-To: Access Developers discussion and problem 
>solving<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
>To: Access Developers discussion and problem 
>solving<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
>Subject: Re: [AccessD] Useful Lists
>Date: Tue, 14 Nov 2006 11:44:58 -0800 (PST)
>
>So help! Send me your list. I will rationalize it with the travel agency 
>list, perhaps using columns to designate the lists. After all, we only have 
>26 letters. Shamil and various others could of course contribute additional 
>alphabets. This obviously doesn't make sense in the various dialects of 
>China, for example. Incidentally, I have heard or read that there are 
>precisely 100 surnames in China. I find this difficult to believe, but it 
>was explained to me as follows: Chang, Chong, Chuang, etc. all refer to the 
>same ideogram, and the differences relate to dialects rather than their 
>single symbolic reference.
>
>I have no idea whether this is correct. But it wouldn't strike me as 
>remarkable if it were. Mind you, the decision about exactly 100 names would 
>strike me as remarkable. If we have any Mandarin/Cantonese/Mongolian/etc. 
>people, it would be useful to receive your input on this subject. A long 
>time ago I was in Japan and used a computer that did translations from a 
>phonetic language to the Japanese characters. I forget the names, but the 
>basic idea was that one could type in "katana" or "shodan" or "wazashi", 
>and this would translate into the appropriate ideograms, occasionally 
>resulting in a listbox of similar words, along with their symbols. This was 
>a long time ago, and I assume that the software has advanced vastly from 
>there, but I haven't been back so I don't know.
>
>Returning to airport codes, I think that the world uses the English list, 
>and that pilots use English as the lingua franca, but I'm not sure about 
>that. Listers outside North America, please assist this ignorant Canadian.
>
>Arthur
>
>----- Original Message ----
>From: Mark A Matte <markamatte at hotmail.com>
>To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
>Sent: Tuesday, November 14, 2006 1:57:46 PM
>Subject: Re: [AccessD] Useful Lists
>
>Arthur,
>
>"I think it is identical to the similar
>list from the military, but perhaps not. (In case you don't know what I
>mean,
>Able Baker Charlie etc.)
>"
>Refers to the phonetic alphabet.  US military version would be "Alpha,
>Bravo,Charlie"
>
>Of all the lists you mentioned...its probably the only one I could
>contribute to.  I know that different occupations and english speaking
>peoples use a different variation of the list.
>
>I'd be glad to help any way I can.
>
>Thanks,
>
>Mark A. Matte
>
> >From: artful at rogers.com
> >Reply-To: Access Developers discussion and problem
> >solving<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
> >To: "AccessD at databaseadvisors. com" <AccessD at databaseadvisors.com>,
> >dba-SQLServer <dba-SQLServer at databaseadvisors.com>
> >Subject: [AccessD] Useful Lists
> >Date: Tue, 14 Nov 2006 10:20:41 -0800 (PST)
> >
> >On the basis of the thread about airport lists, I proposed to Jim 
>Lawrence
> >that we accumulate a bunch of similar lists. As my father said when I
> >joined the CDN Air Force at 17, "Don't volunteer for anything." O well. 
>Jim
> >has invited me to spearhead the acquisition of said lists, and I have
> >accepted the assignment.
> >
> >So, to all of you listers, three questions:
> >
> >1. What lists do you possess that you think would be useful to your 
>fellow
> >AccessD/dba-SQL listers?
> >2. What lists do you lack that you desire?
> >
> >(I couldn't resist the old programmer's joke. There are three types of
> >programmers -- those who can count and those who can't.)
> >
> >Chances are that more than one of you may volunteer to contribute similar
> >or identical lists. The latter is easy to deal with. The former is a 
>little
> >tougher, since it might require UNIONing several lists, but that's ok.
> >
> >I have one list ready to go, which is the list of words corresponding to
> >letters that travel agents use to spell names. I think it is identical to
> >the similar list from the military, but perhaps not. (In case you don't
> >know what I mean, Able Baker Charlie etc.)
> >
> >I also have another list of cities within North America, and states and
> >provinces to correspond. It is not ready to go, there are some 
>duplicates,
> >but I could prune the dupes. The list consists only of those cities into
> >which the company I was formerly associated with sold products, but it
> >numbers about 5,000 cities, give or take 3. Far from exhaustive, but a 
>good
> >start, and similar lists could easily be UNIONed. That leaves out all the
> >listers uninterested in cities in North America, but listers residing
> >elsewhere might be able to contribute more cities. On this one, there is 
>a
> >difficulty. Within North America, there are states and provinces. In
> >Switzerland, there are cantons.
> >
> >On this subject, I have just done some searches in dictionary.com and 
>come
> >up with some hilarious definitions:
> >
> >City -- an important town
> >Town -- a large village
> >Village -- a small community or group of houses in a rural area, larger
> >than a
> >hamlet and usually smaller than a town, and sometimes (as in parts of
> >the U.S.) incorporated as a municipality.
> >Hamlet -- British. a village without a church of its own, belonging to 
>the
> >parish of another village or town.
> >County (the richest by far) --
> >1.the largest administrative division of a U.S. state: Miami, Florida, is
> >in Dade County.
> >
> >2.one of the chief administrative divisions of a country or state, as in
> >Great Britain and Ireland.
> >
> >3.one of the larger divisions for purposes of local administration, as in
> >Canada and New Zealand.
> >
> >4.the territory of a county, esp. its rural areas, as in: "We farmed out 
>in
> >the county before moving to town.".
> >
> >5.the inhabitants of a county, as in, "It was supposed to be a secret, 
>but
> >you told the whole county.".
> >
> >6.the domain of a count or earl.
> >
> >
> >All these years I have been under the (clearly false) impression that
> >precise population-numbers defined these terms. Apparently I have wrong, 
>lo
> >these decades. I have just taken a local poll (only 4 people) and the
> >agreement here is that a city is 100,000 people or more; a town is 
>999,999
> >people or fewer; a village is 2,000 people or fewer; a hamlet is 500 
>people
> >or fewer. We four Canadians readily agreed on these numbers, but that 
>might
> >be something we picked up in school that has no relation to the larger
> >world.
> >
> >Arthur
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From Chester_Kaup at kindermorgan.com  Tue Nov 14 15:13:03 2006
From: Chester_Kaup at kindermorgan.com (Kaup, Chester)
Date: Tue, 14 Nov 2006 15:13:03 -0600
Subject: [AccessD] Carry Forward in a query
Message-ID: <F1DD538AE6BCE74EBE562DE51564D3220224699C@houexch1.kindermorgan.com>

I have a table of data that has a record about every 6 months. I would
like to generate a record for every month using the previous months data
until there is data for the current records month. I can do this in code
but had a coworker ask if it could be done in a query. I am not coming
up with an answer. Your thoughts please.

 

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Engineering Technician

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Office (432) 688-3797

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From stuart at lexacorp.com.pg  Tue Nov 14 15:15:39 2006
From: stuart at lexacorp.com.pg (Stuart McLachlan)
Date: Wed, 15 Nov 2006 07:15:39 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] Useful Lists
In-Reply-To: <20061114182042.41237.qmail@web88209.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
References: <20061114182042.41237.qmail@web88209.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <455A31FB.15816.13362605@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>

On 14 Nov 2006 at 10:20, artful at rogers.com wrote:

> All these years I have been under the (clearly false) impression that
> precise population-numbers defined these terms. Apparently I have wrong, lo
> these decades. I have just taken a local poll (only 4 people) and the
> agreement here is that a city is 100,000 people or more; a town is 999,999
> people or fewer; a village is 2,000 people or fewer; a hamlet is 500 people
> or fewer. We four Canadians readily agreed on these numbers, but that might
> be something we picked up in school that has no relation to the larger
> world.
> 

In the UK, a city  was originally a town with a cathedral. It is an actual 
status conferred on an urban area by the monarch.

I believe that in the US, individual states define their own cities in 
legislation.
-- 
Stuart




From Lambert.Heenan at AIG.com  Tue Nov 14 15:34:21 2006
From: Lambert.Heenan at AIG.com (Heenan, Lambert)
Date: Tue, 14 Nov 2006 16:34:21 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] FW: Partition Function
Message-ID: <34C8A2AB1EF3564CB0D64DB6AFFDD5C222DFAB@xlivmbx35.aig.com>

There's also the Switch function which allows you to group by ranges, like
this...

Data Range: Switch([SomeDataValue]>8,"a) > 8",[SomeDataValue]>=5,"b) >= 5
and <= 8",[SomeDataValue]>=2,"c) >= 2 and < 5",[SomeDataValue]<2,"d) < 2")

In effect  Switch is like "convoluted IIF statements", but without the
convolutions! :-) Note that the order of the various comparisons in the
statement is significant as Switch stops at the first condition that
evaluates to True.

An advantage over Partition is that you can define the groupings arbitrarily
instead of them being equal groups of size "interval".

Lambert

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Mark A Matte
Sent: Tuesday, November 14, 2006 1:50 PM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: Re: [AccessD] FW: Partition Function


Thanks Rocky...

I do a lot of age grouping on age of cases.  This beats the heck out of the 
convoluted IIF statements I've been using.

Thanks,

Mark A. Matte

>From: "Beach Access Software" <bchacc at san.rr.com>
>Reply-To: Access Developers discussion and problem
>solving<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
>To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem 
>solving'"<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
>Subject: Re: [AccessD] FW: Partition Function
>Date: Tue, 14 Nov 2006 10:12:50 -0800
>
>Well, that didn't forward very well.  Here's a link to the MSDN page 
>describing it:
>
>http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/default.asp?url=/library/en-us/vbenlr
>98/ht
>ml/vafctpartition.asp
>
>
>Rocky
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
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>[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Beach Access 
>Software
>Sent: Tuesday, November 14, 2006 9:47 AM
>To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
>Subject: [AccessD] FW: Partition Function
>
>Dear List:
>
>
>
>FYI.  From another developer.
>
>
>
>Rocky
>
>
>
>
>
>   _____
>
>From: joe anderson [mailto:jka at alldatacorp.com]
>Sent: Monday, November 13, 2006 9:55 AM
>To: Subject: Partition Function
>
>
>
>Well ... here is a VBA function that I've never seen in 14 years!!  
>Looks like it could be pretty useful!!! It's not even in Getz's book 
>... at least not in the index at the back!
>
>
>
>I found it in a cool little book Titled "Fixing Access Annyoances' ... 
>a$20 book that has already paid for itself!  By .. Phil Mitchell and 
>Evan Callahan.
>
>
>
>jka
>
>
>" :-1"
>
>" 0: 4"
>
>" 95: 99"
>
>" 100: "
>
>
>20
>
>199
>
>10
>
>" : 19"
>
>" 20: 29"
>
>" 190: 199"
>
>" 200: "
>
>
>100
>
>1010
>
>20
>
>" : 99"
>
>" 100: 119"
>
>" 1000: 1010"
>
>" 1011: "
>
>
>
>In the table shown above, the third line shows the result when start 
>and stop define a set of numbers that can't be evenly divided by 
>interval. The last range extends to stop (11 numbers) even though 
>interval is 20.
>
>If necessary, Partition returns a range with enough leading spaces so 
>that there are the same number of characters to the left and right of 
>the colon as there are characters in stop, plus one. This ensures that 
>if you use Partition with other numbers, the resulting text will be 
>handled properly during any subsequent sort operation.
>
>If interval is 1, the range is number:number, regardless of the start 
>and stop arguments. For example, if interval is 1, number is 100 and 
>stop is 1000, Partition returns " 100: 100".
>
>If any of the parts is Null <javascript:hhobj_5.Click()> , Partition
>returns
>a Null.
>
>
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From Jim.Hale at FleetPride.com  Tue Nov 14 15:59:10 2006
From: Jim.Hale at FleetPride.com (Hale, Jim)
Date: Tue, 14 Nov 2006 15:59:10 -0600
Subject: [AccessD] Carry Forward in a query
Message-ID: <6A6AA9DF57E4F046BDA1E273BDDB67727DE0FE@corp-es01.fleetpride.com>

If I understand what you want to do, I have done this with a non cartesian
join. I create a table with a one field record and  one record for each
date. In the query window I place this table and the table with the record
you want to duplicate WITHOUT ANY JOIN. the resulting data set produces one
record for each date. HTH
Jim Hale

-----Original Message-----
From: Kaup, Chester [mailto:Chester_Kaup at kindermorgan.com]
Sent: Tuesday, November 14, 2006 3:13 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: [AccessD] Carry Forward in a query


I have a table of data that has a record about every 6 months. I would
like to generate a record for every month using the previous months data
until there is data for the current records month. I can do this in code
but had a coworker ask if it could be done in a query. I am not coming
up with an answer. Your thoughts please.

 

Chester Kaup

Engineering Technician

Kinder Morgan CO2 Company, LLP

Office (432) 688-3797

FAX (432) 688-3799

 

 

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From artful at rogers.com  Tue Nov 14 16:02:45 2006
From: artful at rogers.com (artful at rogers.com)
Date: Tue, 14 Nov 2006 14:02:45 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [AccessD] Useful Lists
Message-ID: <20061114220245.81400.qmail@web88214.mail.re2.yahoo.com>

I think that on both points you hit the mark. I came from a suburb of Winnipeg, Manitoba, called St. Vital. There was a time when St. Vital became a city. I think it was population-based but I was a child back then so I could be way wrong. I will research this some more.

There is an oddity in Canada, private entities not part of the adjacent town, city or whatever. In Toronto, one is Wychwood Park, a private enclave that is responsible for paying its private garbage-gatherers, snow-shovellers, etc. It is surrounded by Toronto, but is somehow legally not part of Toronto. I can name several other enclaves with this status within Ontario. I don't know whether this status exists anywhere else in Canada, but I can name several places of this distinction in Ontario. Here, these places seem to be 100% white.

They may or may not correspond to the gated communities in the USA; in both cases they are inhabited by no one without large funds. Some American on the list might contribute an opinion on gated communities: are the city's police permitted to enter? The fire department? Any non-resident other than a Fedex driver? Any person of color other than the previous designations? Are there any gated communities reserved for blacks or Hispanics, or are they reserved for persons of pallor? Or, alternatively, am I woefully incorrect about this, and the line of demarcation is affluence not color. Just curious.

Arthur

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From: Stuart McLachlan <stuart at lexacorp.com.pg>
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Tuesday, November 14, 2006 4:15:39 PM
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Useful Lists

On 14 Nov 2006 at 10:20, artful at rogers.com wrote:

> All these years I have been under the (clearly false) impression that
> precise population-numbers defined these terms. Apparently I have wrong, lo
> these decades. I have just taken a local poll (only 4 people) and the
> agreement here is that a city is 100,000 people or more; a town is 999,999
> people or fewer; a village is 2,000 people or fewer; a hamlet is 500 people
> or fewer. We four Canadians readily agreed on these numbers, but that might
> be something we picked up in school that has no relation to the larger
> world.
> 

In the UK, a city  was originally a town with a cathedral. It is an actual 
status conferred on an urban area by the monarch.

I believe that in the US, individual states define their own cities in 
legislation.
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From Jim.Hale at FleetPride.com  Tue Nov 14 16:04:43 2006
From: Jim.Hale at FleetPride.com (Hale, Jim)
Date: Tue, 14 Nov 2006 16:04:43 -0600
Subject: [AccessD] FW: Partition Function
Message-ID: <6A6AA9DF57E4F046BDA1E273BDDB67727DE100@corp-es01.fleetpride.com>

Well I'll be damned. A new play pretty to amuse myself with that I never
knew existed. thanks!
Jim Hale

-----Original Message-----
From: Heenan, Lambert [mailto:Lambert.Heenan at aig.com]
Sent: Tuesday, November 14, 2006 3:34 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Cc: 'markamatte at hotmail.com'
Subject: Re: [AccessD] FW: Partition Function


There's also the Switch function which allows you to group by ranges, like
this...

Data Range: Switch([SomeDataValue]>8,"a) > 8",[SomeDataValue]>=5,"b) >= 5
and <= 8",[SomeDataValue]>=2,"c) >= 2 and < 5",[SomeDataValue]<2,"d) < 2")

In effect  Switch is like "convoluted IIF statements", but without the
convolutions! :-) Note that the order of the various comparisons in the
statement is significant as Switch stops at the first condition that
evaluates to True.

An advantage over Partition is that you can define the groupings arbitrarily
instead of them being equal groups of size "interval".

Lambert


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From dgibso at uark.edu  Tue Nov 14 16:28:23 2006
From: dgibso at uark.edu (David A Gibson)
Date: Tue, 14 Nov 2006 16:28:23 -0600
Subject: [AccessD] Useful Lists
In-Reply-To: <20061114220245.81400.qmail@web88214.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
References: <20061114220245.81400.qmail@web88214.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
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My sister lives in a "clothing optional" gated community.  :-D

Police, fire, and delivery are allowed entry.  The guard at the 
gatehouse just keeps out the curious and unwanted.

There are different designations of communities.  One near us (NW 
Arkansas, USA) has been a "village", legally, and run by a 
council.  No mayor, president, chief and so on.  They are now going 
through the growing pains of becoming a "town" with a mayor and 
council.  Elections and all that.  I'll see if I can look up some 
more concrete info but it won't be today as I am headed out.

David G.

At 04:02 PM 11/14/2006, you wrote:
>I think that on both points you hit the mark. I came from a suburb 
>of Winnipeg, Manitoba, called St. Vital. There was a time when St. 
>Vital became a city. I think it was population-based but I was a 
>child back then so I could be way wrong. I will research this some more.
>
>There is an oddity in Canada, private entities not part of the 
>adjacent town, city or whatever. In Toronto, one is Wychwood Park, a 
>private enclave that is responsible for paying its private 
>garbage-gatherers, snow-shovellers, etc. It is surrounded by 
>Toronto, but is somehow legally not part of Toronto. I can name 
>several other enclaves with this status within Ontario. I don't know 
>whether this status exists anywhere else in Canada, but I can name 
>several places of this distinction in Ontario. Here, these places 
>seem to be 100% white.
>
>They may or may not correspond to the gated communities in the USA; 
>in both cases they are inhabited by no one without large funds. Some 
>American on the list might contribute an opinion on gated 
>communities: are the city's police permitted to enter? The fire 
>department? Any non-resident other than a Fedex driver? Any person 
>of color other than the previous designations? Are there any gated 
>communities reserved for blacks or Hispanics, or are they reserved 
>for persons of pallor? Or, alternatively, am I woefully incorrect 
>about this, and the line of demarcation is affluence not color. Just curious.
>
>Arthur

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From Chester_Kaup at kindermorgan.com  Tue Nov 14 16:40:39 2006
From: Chester_Kaup at kindermorgan.com (Kaup, Chester)
Date: Tue, 14 Nov 2006 16:40:39 -0600
Subject: [AccessD] Carry Forward in a query
In-Reply-To: <6A6AA9DF57E4F046BDA1E273BDDB67727DE0FE@corp-es01.fleetpride.com>
Message-ID: <F1DD538AE6BCE74EBE562DE51564D32202246A05@houexch1.kindermorgan.com>

Here is what I have now. One table with dates and one table like below.
Query SQL as below. This works great.

SELECT T_PriceCurrent.SDate, 
(Select Price from T_PriceIndex as T1 where T1.SDate=(Select Max(SDate) 
from T_PriceIndex AS T2 where T2.SDate<=T_PriceCurrent.SDate)) 
AS PriceCurrent
FROM T_PriceCurrent;

SDate		Price
1/1/2005	8.56
1/23/2005	8.73
2/14/2005	8.40
3/1/2005	8.00
3/12/2005	8.45
3/27/2005	8.95
4/7/2005	8.12
4/30/2005	7.95
5/14/2005	8.03
5/27/2005	8.24
6/10/2005	9.03
6/25/2005	9.17
7/3/2005	9.25
7/27/2005	9.40
8/3/2005	9.64

What I cannot figure how to do is make it work if table looks like
below. I need output for each Pattern.
Pattern	SDate	Price
1	1/1/2005	8.56
1	1/23/2005	8.73
1	2/14/2005	8.40
1	3/1/2005	8.00
1	3/12/2005	8.45
1	3/27/2005	8.95
1	4/7/2005	8.12
1	4/30/2005	7.95
1	5/14/2005	8.03
1	5/27/2005	8.24
1	6/10/2005	9.03
1	6/25/2005	9.17
1	7/3/2005	9.25
1	7/27/2005	9.40
1	8/3/2005	9.64
2	1/7/2005	8.27
2	1/24/2005	8.71
2	2/13/2005	8.35
2	3/2/2005	8.02
2	3/13/2005	8.44
2	3/28/2005	8.93
2	4/6/2005	8.10
2	4/28/2005	7.98
2	5/15/2005	8.05
2	5/25/2005	8.20
2	6/9/2005	9.00
2	6/20/2005	9.15
2	7/1/2005	9.23
2	7/25/2005	9.35
2	8/4/2005	9.65
2	8/15/2005	9.50

Thanks for any ideas.

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Hale, Jim
Sent: Tuesday, November 14, 2006 3:59 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Carry Forward in a query

If I understand what you want to do, I have done this with a non
cartesian
join. I create a table with a one field record and  one record for each
date. In the query window I place this table and the table with the
record
you want to duplicate WITHOUT ANY JOIN. the resulting data set produces
one
record for each date. HTH
Jim Hale

-----Original Message-----
From: Kaup, Chester [mailto:Chester_Kaup at kindermorgan.com]
Sent: Tuesday, November 14, 2006 3:13 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: [AccessD] Carry Forward in a query


I have a table of data that has a record about every 6 months. I would
like to generate a record for every month using the previous months data
until there is data for the current records month. I can do this in code
but had a coworker ask if it could be done in a query. I am not coming
up with an answer. Your thoughts please.

 

Chester Kaup

Engineering Technician

Kinder Morgan CO2 Company, LLP

Office (432) 688-3797

FAX (432) 688-3799

 

 

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From wdhindman at dejpolsystems.com  Tue Nov 14 17:54:47 2006
From: wdhindman at dejpolsystems.com (William Hindman)
Date: Tue, 14 Nov 2006 18:54:47 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Useful Lists
References: <20061114220245.81400.qmail@web88214.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
	<7.0.1.0.0.20061114162222.01d4a020@uark.edu>
Message-ID: <004501c70848$44ab8f30$3e3de844@50NM721>

...it varies widely by state in the US ...more variety along the eastern 
seaboard and gulf where various nationalities influenced early conventions 
...less variety in the west where the fed had more of a hand in 
standardizing governmental entities ...here we just had an election where 
the property owners in an unincorporated area of the county had petitioned 
the state legislature to recognize us as a separate government entity from 
that of Palm Beach County ...the county government is effectively run by 
developers who were doing everything they could, legally and illegally, to 
break the original property covenants that didn't allow anything less than 
ten acre homesites in Loxahatchee Groves ...the developers want to buy up 
the property and put in much higher density housing ...the everglades to our 
immediate west creates a finite limit on available property and thus 
developable land is immensely valuable here.

...as for art's question re gated communities, anti-discrimination laws make 
it virtually impossible to create or maintain a racially pure community here 
...such communities are of course limited to those who can afford them and 
increasingly, that includes larger numbers of non-white ethnicities as they 
benefit from greater participation and success in our economic system ...in 
point of fact, if you went looking for racially segregated communities, it 
would be among the poorest communities that you would find them, not the 
richest simply because all too often the rule of law doesn't penetrate very 
far there.

William Hindman

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "David A Gibson" <dgibso at uark.edu>
To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving" 
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Tuesday, November 14, 2006 5:28 PM
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Useful Lists


> My sister lives in a "clothing optional" gated community.  :-D
>
> Police, fire, and delivery are allowed entry.  The guard at the
> gatehouse just keeps out the curious and unwanted.
>
> There are different designations of communities.  One near us (NW
> Arkansas, USA) has been a "village", legally, and run by a
> council.  No mayor, president, chief and so on.  They are now going
> through the growing pains of becoming a "town" with a mayor and
> council.  Elections and all that.  I'll see if I can look up some
> more concrete info but it won't be today as I am headed out.
>
> David G.
>
> At 04:02 PM 11/14/2006, you wrote:
>>I think that on both points you hit the mark. I came from a suburb
>>of Winnipeg, Manitoba, called St. Vital. There was a time when St.
>>Vital became a city. I think it was population-based but I was a
>>child back then so I could be way wrong. I will research this some more.
>>
>>There is an oddity in Canada, private entities not part of the
>>adjacent town, city or whatever. In Toronto, one is Wychwood Park, a
>>private enclave that is responsible for paying its private
>>garbage-gatherers, snow-shovellers, etc. It is surrounded by
>>Toronto, but is somehow legally not part of Toronto. I can name
>>several other enclaves with this status within Ontario. I don't know
>>whether this status exists anywhere else in Canada, but I can name
>>several places of this distinction in Ontario. Here, these places
>>seem to be 100% white.
>>
>>They may or may not correspond to the gated communities in the USA;
>>in both cases they are inhabited by no one without large funds. Some
>>American on the list might contribute an opinion on gated
>>communities: are the city's police permitted to enter? The fire
>>department? Any non-resident other than a Fedex driver? Any person
>>of color other than the previous designations? Are there any gated
>>communities reserved for blacks or Hispanics, or are they reserved
>>for persons of pallor? Or, alternatively, am I woefully incorrect
>>about this, and the line of demarcation is affluence not color. Just 
>>curious.
>>
>>Arthur
>
> David A. Gibson
> Computer Support Specialist II
> University of Arkansas
> 232 Silas H. Hunt Hall
> 1 University of Arkansas
> Fayetteville, Arkansas  72701
> 800-377-8632
> (479) 575-4654
> <http://www.uark.edu>www.uark.<http://www.uark.edu>edu
>
> The University of Arkansas
> Nationally Competitive- Student Centered- Research University
>
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From artful at rogers.com  Tue Nov 14 18:13:39 2006
From: artful at rogers.com (artful at rogers.com)
Date: Tue, 14 Nov 2006 16:13:39 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [AccessD] Useful Lists
Message-ID: <20061115001339.90569.qmail@web88201.mail.re2.yahoo.com>

Cool response, William! Thanks!

----- Original Message ----
From: William Hindman <wdhindman at dejpolsystems.com>
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Tuesday, November 14, 2006 6:54:47 PM
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Useful Lists

...it varies widely by state in the US ...more variety along the eastern 
seaboard and gulf where various nationalities influenced early conventions 
...less variety in the west where the fed had more of a hand in 
standardizing governmental entities ...here we just had an election where 
the property owners in an unincorporated area of the county had petitioned 
the state legislature to recognize us as a separate government entity from 
that of Palm Beach County ...the county government is effectively run by 
developers who were doing everything they could, legally and illegally, to 
break the original property covenants that didn't allow anything less than 
ten acre homesites in Loxahatchee Groves ...the developers want to buy up 
the property and put in much higher density housing ...the everglades to our 
immediate west creates a finite limit on available property and thus 
developable land is immensely valuable here.

...as for art's question re gated communities, anti-discrimination laws make 
it virtually impossible to create or maintain a racially pure community here 
...such communities are of course limited to those who can afford them and 
increasingly, that includes larger numbers of non-white ethnicities as they 
benefit from greater participation and success in our economic system ...in 
point of fact, if you went looking for racially segregated communities, it 
would be among the poorest communities that you would find them, not the 
richest simply because all too often the rule of law doesn't penetrate very 
far there.

William Hindman

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "David A Gibson" <dgibso at uark.edu>
To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving" 
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Tuesday, November 14, 2006 5:28 PM
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Useful Lists


> My sister lives in a "clothing optional" gated community.  :-D
>
> Police, fire, and delivery are allowed entry.  The guard at the
> gatehouse just keeps out the curious and unwanted.
>
> There are different designations of communities.  One near us (NW
> Arkansas, USA) has been a "village", legally, and run by a
> council.  No mayor, president, chief and so on.  They are now going
> through the growing pains of becoming a "town" with a mayor and
> council.  Elections and all that.  I'll see if I can look up some
> more concrete info but it won't be today as I am headed out.
>
> David G.
>
> At 04:02 PM 11/14/2006, you wrote:
>>I think that on both points you hit the mark. I came from a suburb
>>of Winnipeg, Manitoba, called St. Vital. There was a time when St.
>>Vital became a city. I think it was population-based but I was a
>>child back then so I could be way wrong. I will research this some more.
>>
>>There is an oddity in Canada, private entities not part of the
>>adjacent town, city or whatever. In Toronto, one is Wychwood Park, a
>>private enclave that is responsible for paying its private
>>garbage-gatherers, snow-shovellers, etc. It is surrounded by
>>Toronto, but is somehow legally not part of Toronto. I can name
>>several other enclaves with this status within Ontario. I don't know
>>whether this status exists anywhere else in Canada, but I can name
>>several places of this distinction in Ontario. Here, these places
>>seem to be 100% white.
>>
>>They may or may not correspond to the gated communities in the USA;
>>in both cases they are inhabited by no one without large funds. Some
>>American on the list might contribute an opinion on gated
>>communities: are the city's police permitted to enter? The fire
>>department? Any non-resident other than a Fedex driver? Any person
>>of color other than the previous designations? Are there any gated
>>communities reserved for blacks or Hispanics, or are they reserved
>>for persons of pallor? Or, alternatively, am I woefully incorrect
>>about this, and the line of demarcation is affluence not color. Just 
>>curious.
>>
>>Arthur
>
> David A. Gibson
> Computer Support Specialist II
> University of Arkansas
> 232 Silas H. Hunt Hall
> 1 University of Arkansas
> Fayetteville, Arkansas  72701
> 800-377-8632
> (479) 575-4654
> <http://www.uark.edu>www.uark.<http://www.uark.edu>edu>
>
> The University of Arkansas
> Nationally Competitive- Student Centered- Research University
>
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From prodevmg at yahoo.com  Tue Nov 14 18:39:45 2006
From: prodevmg at yahoo.com (Lonnie Johnson)
Date: Tue, 14 Nov 2006 16:39:45 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [AccessD] Unable to bookmark after record is deleted
Message-ID: <20061115003945.56810.qmail@web33106.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Gustav,

You're the man. That did it for me. Never worked much with bookmarks in this capacity. I am all the smarter now because of you.
 








May God bless you beyond your imagination!
Lonnie Johnson
ProDev, Professional Development of MS Access Databases
Visit me at ==> http://www.prodev.us






 



----- Original Message ----
From: Gustav Brock <Gustav at cactus.dk>
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Sent: Tuesday, November 14, 2006 5:53:13 AM
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Unable to bookmark after record is deleted


Hi Lonnie

When you delete a record the bookmarks are destroyed.
Before you delete, retrieve the ID of the bookmarked record, delete, locate the bookmarked record by its ID, and reestablish the bookmark.

/gustav

>>> prodevmg at yahoo.com 14-11-2006 05:28:31 >>>
I have a process that deletes a record in a recordset of a subform via vba, then requeries the subform object. Then I try to move to another record using the bookmark and I get a message that says there is not current record for the recordset clone of the subform?  I know there are records, this only happens when I delete or insert a record into the underlying recordset.


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From bchacc at san.rr.com  Tue Nov 14 19:11:54 2006
From: bchacc at san.rr.com (Beach Access Software)
Date: Tue, 14 Nov 2006 17:11:54 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] Copy a record in a table
Message-ID: <010901c70853$0a2ce290$6a01a8c0@HAL9005>


Dear List:

 

Is there a quick or slick or elegant way to copy a record in a table to a
new record in the same table - just duplicating a record  

 

I've done it using DAO and cycling through the fields and creating the new
record and adding it but that seems awfully crude. 

 

MTIA

 

Rocky

 

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From stuart at lexacorp.com.pg  Tue Nov 14 19:50:06 2006
From: stuart at lexacorp.com.pg (Stuart McLachlan)
Date: Wed, 15 Nov 2006 11:50:06 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] Copy a record in a table
In-Reply-To: <010901c70853$0a2ce290$6a01a8c0@HAL9005>
References: <010901c70853$0a2ce290$6a01a8c0@HAL9005>
Message-ID: <455AFEEE.16670.703A6514@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>

On 14 Nov 2006 at 17:11, Beach Access Software wrote:

> 
> Dear List:
> 
>  
> 
> Is there a quick or slick or elegant way to copy a record in a table to a
> new record in the same table - just duplicating a record  

INSERT INTO tblTable
SELECT tblTable.*
FROM tblTable
WHERE  fldID = IDofRecordToCopy





From bchacc at san.rr.com  Tue Nov 14 22:08:06 2006
From: bchacc at san.rr.com (Beach Access Software)
Date: Tue, 14 Nov 2006 20:08:06 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] Copy a record in a table
In-Reply-To: <455AFEEE.16670.703A6514@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>
Message-ID: <014901c7086b$a7eeb3b0$6a01a8c0@HAL9005>

Stuart:

I'm using
        db.Execute "INSERT INTO tblJobMaster SELECT tblJobMaster.* FROM
tblJobMaster " _
     & "WHERE fldJobMasterID = " & rstJobMasterEquipmentIn!fldJobMasterID

But I get the cryptic 'Too few parameters.  Expected 1'.  Can you see what
I'm doing wrong?

Thanks.

Rocky

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Stuart McLachlan
Sent: Tuesday, November 14, 2006 5:50 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Copy a record in a table

On 14 Nov 2006 at 17:11, Beach Access Software wrote:

> 
> Dear List:
> 
>  
> 
> Is there a quick or slick or elegant way to copy a record in a table to a
> new record in the same table - just duplicating a record  

INSERT INTO tblTable
SELECT tblTable.*
FROM tblTable
WHERE  fldID = IDofRecordToCopy



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From stuart at lexacorp.com.pg  Tue Nov 14 22:24:24 2006
From: stuart at lexacorp.com.pg (Stuart McLachlan)
Date: Wed, 15 Nov 2006 14:24:24 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] Copy a record in a table
In-Reply-To: <014901c7086b$a7eeb3b0$6a01a8c0@HAL9005>
References: <455AFEEE.16670.703A6514@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>,
	<014901c7086b$a7eeb3b0$6a01a8c0@HAL9005>
Message-ID: <455B2318.27169.70C7A8E5@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>

On 14 Nov 2006 at 20:08, Beach Access Software wrote:

> Stuart:
> 
> I'm using
>         db.Execute "INSERT INTO tblJobMaster SELECT tblJobMaster.* FROM
> tblJobMaster " _
>      & "WHERE fldJobMasterID = " & rstJobMasterEquipmentIn!fldJobMasterID
> 
> But I get the cryptic 'Too few parameters.  Expected 1'.  Can you see what
> I'm doing wrong?

WHile developing, try using

strSQL = .....
Docmd.RunSQL strSQL
instead of .Execute.

You get much more helpful error messages that way.

Just a WAG but  is fldJobMasterID a PK or constrained to being unique?

Creating a new record like this, you are trying to create another record in the table with ALL of the fields the same, including any 
unique fields,PK or otherwise.  (You did ask originally to "duplicate" a record in a table) 










From martyconnelly at shaw.ca  Tue Nov 14 22:48:28 2006
From: martyconnelly at shaw.ca (MartyConnelly)
Date: Tue, 14 Nov 2006 20:48:28 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] Useful Lists
In-Reply-To: <20061114220245.81400.qmail@web88214.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
References: <20061114220245.81400.qmail@web88214.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <455A9C1C.4000005@shaw.ca>

Rockliffe Park Village was that way in downtown Ottawa until 
amalgamation in 2001.
It was admittance more by class than affluence, although 
multi-millionaires found a way in.
It was mostly Government ministers and ambassadors. I think the population
was under 2000. In the 80's no house was under a million.


artful at rogers.com wrote:

>I think that on both points you hit the mark. I came from a suburb of Winnipeg, Manitoba, called St. Vital. There was a time when St. Vital became a city. I think it was population-based but I was a child back then so I could be way wrong. I will research this some more.
>
>There is an oddity in Canada, private entities not part of the adjacent town, city or whatever. In Toronto, one is Wychwood Park, a private enclave that is responsible for paying its private garbage-gatherers, snow-shovellers, etc. It is surrounded by Toronto, but is somehow legally not part of Toronto. I can name several other enclaves with this status within Ontario. I don't know whether this status exists anywhere else in Canada, but I can name several places of this distinction in Ontario. Here, these places seem to be 100% white.
>
>They may or may not correspond to the gated communities in the USA; in both cases they are inhabited by no one without large funds. Some American on the list might contribute an opinion on gated communities: are the city's police permitted to enter? The fire department? Any non-resident other than a Fedex driver? Any person of color other than the previous designations? Are there any gated communities reserved for blacks or Hispanics, or are they reserved for persons of pallor? Or, alternatively, am I woefully incorrect about this, and the line of demarcation is affluence not color. Just curious.
>
>Arthur
>
>----- Original Message ----
>From: Stuart McLachlan <stuart at lexacorp.com.pg>
>To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
>Sent: Tuesday, November 14, 2006 4:15:39 PM
>Subject: Re: [AccessD] Useful Lists
>
>On 14 Nov 2006 at 10:20, artful at rogers.com wrote:
>
>  
>
>>All these years I have been under the (clearly false) impression that
>>precise population-numbers defined these terms. Apparently I have wrong, lo
>>these decades. I have just taken a local poll (only 4 people) and the
>>agreement here is that a city is 100,000 people or more; a town is 999,999
>>people or fewer; a village is 2,000 people or fewer; a hamlet is 500 people
>>or fewer. We four Canadians readily agreed on these numbers, but that might
>>be something we picked up in school that has no relation to the larger
>>world.
>>
>>    
>>
>
>In the UK, a city  was originally a town with a cathedral. It is an actual 
>status conferred on an urban area by the monarch.
>
>I believe that in the US, individual states define their own cities in 
>legislation.
>  
>

-- 
Marty Connelly
Victoria, B.C.
Canada



From martyconnelly at shaw.ca  Tue Nov 14 23:08:15 2006
From: martyconnelly at shaw.ca (MartyConnelly)
Date: Tue, 14 Nov 2006 21:08:15 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] Useful Lists
In-Reply-To: <20061114194458.44797.qmail@web88203.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
References: <20061114194458.44797.qmail@web88203.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <455AA0BF.7050407@shaw.ca>

In addition to lists there are public web services that provide things like
those listed below from places like
http://www.webservicex.net/WS/default.aspx

 LloydsRiskCodeService
US Address verification
Barcode Generator
North American Industry Classification System
United Nations Standard Products and Services Code
Medi Care Supplier
FedACH
FedWire
USA Weather Forecast
MortgageIndex
SunSetRiseService
GeoIPService
 Stock Quote
Currency Convertor
Global Weather
London Gold And Silver Fixing
Real Time Market Data
SendSMSWorld
OFAC SDN and Blocked Persons
Translation Engine
ABA Lookup

artful at rogers.com wrote:

>So help! Send me your list. I will rationalize it with the travel agency list, perhaps using columns to designate the lists. After all, we only have 26 letters. Shamil and various others could of course contribute additional alphabets. This obviously doesn't make sense in the various dialects of China, for example. Incidentally, I have heard or read that there are precisely 100 surnames in China. I find this difficult to believe, but it was explained to me as follows: Chang, Chong, Chuang, etc. all refer to the same ideogram, and the differences relate to dialects rather than their single symbolic reference.
>
>I have no idea whether this is correct. But it wouldn't strike me as remarkable if it were. Mind you, the decision about exactly 100 names would strike me as remarkable. If we have any Mandarin/Cantonese/Mongolian/etc. people, it would be useful to receive your input on this subject. A long time ago I was in Japan and used a computer that did translations from a phonetic language to the Japanese characters. I forget the names, but the basic idea was that one could type in "katana" or "shodan" or "wazashi", and this would translate into the appropriate ideograms, occasionally resulting in a listbox of similar words, along with their symbols. This was a long time ago, and I assume that the software has advanced vastly from there, but I haven't been back so I don't know.
>
>Returning to airport codes, I think that the world uses the English list, and that pilots use English as the lingua franca, but I'm not sure about that. Listers outside North America, please assist this ignorant Canadian.
>
>Arthur
>
>----- Original Message ----
>From: Mark A Matte <markamatte at hotmail.com>
>To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
>Sent: Tuesday, November 14, 2006 1:57:46 PM
>Subject: Re: [AccessD] Useful Lists
>
>Arthur,
>
>"I think it is identical to the similar
>list from the military, but perhaps not. (In case you don't know what I 
>mean,
>Able Baker Charlie etc.)
>"
>Refers to the phonetic alphabet.  US military version would be "Alpha, 
>Bravo,Charlie"
>
>Of all the lists you mentioned...its probably the only one I could 
>contribute to.  I know that different occupations and english speaking 
>peoples use a different variation of the list.
>
>I'd be glad to help any way I can.
>
>Thanks,
>
>Mark A. Matte
>
>  
>
>>From: artful at rogers.com
>>Reply-To: Access Developers discussion and problem 
>>solving<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
>>To: "AccessD at databaseadvisors. com" <AccessD at databaseadvisors.com>,   
>>dba-SQLServer <dba-SQLServer at databaseadvisors.com>
>>Subject: [AccessD] Useful Lists
>>Date: Tue, 14 Nov 2006 10:20:41 -0800 (PST)
>>
>>On the basis of the thread about airport lists, I proposed to Jim Lawrence 
>>that we accumulate a bunch of similar lists. As my father said when I 
>>joined the CDN Air Force at 17, "Don't volunteer for anything." O well. Jim 
>>has invited me to spearhead the acquisition of said lists, and I have 
>>accepted the assignment.
>>
>>So, to all of you listers, three questions:
>>
>>1. What lists do you possess that you think would be useful to your fellow 
>>AccessD/dba-SQL listers?
>>2. What lists do you lack that you desire?
>>
>>(I couldn't resist the old programmer's joke. There are three types of 
>>programmers -- those who can count and those who can't.)
>>
>>Chances are that more than one of you may volunteer to contribute similar 
>>or identical lists. The latter is easy to deal with. The former is a little 
>>tougher, since it might require UNIONing several lists, but that's ok.
>>
>>I have one list ready to go, which is the list of words corresponding to 
>>letters that travel agents use to spell names. I think it is identical to 
>>the similar list from the military, but perhaps not. (In case you don't 
>>know what I mean, Able Baker Charlie etc.)
>>
>>I also have another list of cities within North America, and states and 
>>provinces to correspond. It is not ready to go, there are some duplicates, 
>>but I could prune the dupes. The list consists only of those cities into 
>>which the company I was formerly associated with sold products, but it 
>>numbers about 5,000 cities, give or take 3. Far from exhaustive, but a good 
>>start, and similar lists could easily be UNIONed. That leaves out all the 
>>listers uninterested in cities in North America, but listers residing 
>>elsewhere might be able to contribute more cities. On this one, there is a 
>>difficulty. Within North America, there are states and provinces. In 
>>Switzerland, there are cantons.
>>
>>On this subject, I have just done some searches in dictionary.com and come 
>>up with some hilarious definitions:
>>
>>City -- an important town
>>Town -- a large village
>>Village -- a small community or group of houses in a rural area, larger 
>>than a
>>hamlet and usually smaller than a town, and sometimes (as in parts of
>>the U.S.) incorporated as a municipality.
>>Hamlet -- British. a village without a church of its own, belonging to the 
>>parish of another village or town.
>>County (the richest by far) --
>>1.the largest administrative division of a U.S. state: Miami, Florida, is 
>>in Dade County.
>>
>>2.one of the chief administrative divisions of a country or state, as in 
>>Great Britain and Ireland.
>>
>>3.one of the larger divisions for purposes of local administration, as in 
>>Canada and New Zealand.
>>
>>4.the territory of a county, esp. its rural areas, as in: "We farmed out in 
>>the county before moving to town.".
>>
>>5.the inhabitants of a county, as in, "It was supposed to be a secret, but 
>>you told the whole county.".
>>
>>6.the domain of a count or earl.
>>
>>
>>All these years I have been under the (clearly false) impression that 
>>precise population-numbers defined these terms. Apparently I have wrong, lo 
>>these decades. I have just taken a local poll (only 4 people) and the 
>>agreement here is that a city is 100,000 people or more; a town is 999,999 
>>people or fewer; a village is 2,000 people or fewer; a hamlet is 500 people 
>>or fewer. We four Canadians readily agreed on these numbers, but that might 
>>be something we picked up in school that has no relation to the larger 
>>world.
>>
>>Arthur
>>
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>
>_________________________________________________________________
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>route!  http://local.live.com?FORM=MGA001
>
>
>  
>

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From bchacc at san.rr.com  Tue Nov 14 23:10:56 2006
From: bchacc at san.rr.com (Beach Access Software)
Date: Tue, 14 Nov 2006 21:10:56 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] Copy a record in a table
In-Reply-To: <455B2318.27169.70C7A8E5@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>
Message-ID: <016101c70874$6ed01e30$6a01a8c0@HAL9005>

Oops.  My bad.  fldJobMasterID is an the Autonumber PK of tblJobMaster.
Won't work then, will it?

Rocky


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Stuart McLachlan
Sent: Tuesday, November 14, 2006 8:24 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Copy a record in a table

On 14 Nov 2006 at 20:08, Beach Access Software wrote:

> Stuart:
> 
> I'm using
>         db.Execute "INSERT INTO tblJobMaster SELECT tblJobMaster.* FROM
> tblJobMaster " _
>      & "WHERE fldJobMasterID = " & rstJobMasterEquipmentIn!fldJobMasterID
> 
> But I get the cryptic 'Too few parameters.  Expected 1'.  Can you see what
> I'm doing wrong?

WHile developing, try using

strSQL = .....
Docmd.RunSQL strSQL
instead of .Execute.

You get much more helpful error messages that way.

Just a WAG but  is fldJobMasterID a PK or constrained to being unique?

Creating a new record like this, you are trying to create another record in
the table with ALL of the fields the same, including any 
unique fields,PK or otherwise.  (You did ask originally to "duplicate" a
record in a table) 








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From accessd at shaw.ca  Tue Nov 14 23:23:10 2006
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Tue, 14 Nov 2006 21:23:10 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] ATA airport list for the DBA list
In-Reply-To: <002101c70810$87dfd280$f1bc2ad1@SUSANONE>
Message-ID: <0J8R00IQ2AWEIPH0@l-daemon>

Hi Susan:

I can not seem to get the browsers to produce what you are seeing. Could you
display the inconsistency on your monitor, print it to a file and send me
the file off-line. In the meantime, what browser are you using?

TIA

Regards
Jim

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Susan Harkins
Sent: Tuesday, November 14, 2006 9:16 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: Re: [AccessD] ATA airport list for the DBA list

I see one plane. Above it and under the page title, there's a rectangular
white box. The only reason I can tell is because it blocks the gray border. 

Susan H. 

My browser mirrors the airplane left-right ...

>>> artful at rogers.com 14-11-2006 15:11:17 >>>
I'm running FF and not seeing anything weird. Looks just fine, and perhaps
fancy, to me. 


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From artful at rogers.com  Wed Nov 15 00:43:13 2006
From: artful at rogers.com (artful at rogers.com)
Date: Tue, 14 Nov 2006 22:43:13 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [AccessD] Useful Lists
Message-ID: <20061115064313.38029.qmail@web88209.mail.re2.yahoo.com>

I will spend some time turning some of these into Access databases. These can easily be ported to any other database such as MS-SQL or Oracle or Sybase, etc. I admit that I have no idea what some of these designations mean (FedACH for example), but I'll look at the site and import what I can.

I just glanced at the site, and it raises an interesting question. Perhaps it is pointless to grab rapidly changing lists, since by definition they require frequent refreshment. The list of elements, or planets, or sexes, changes relatively infrequently. Maybe we ought to concentrate on infrequently changing lists and leave the rest to net-lookups?

Arthur

----- Original Message ----
From: MartyConnelly <martyconnelly at shaw.ca>
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Wednesday, November 15, 2006 12:08:15 AM
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Useful Lists

In addition to lists there are public web services that provide things like
those listed below from places like
http://www.webservicex.net/WS/default.aspx

 LloydsRiskCodeService
US Address verification
Barcode Generator
North American Industry Classification System
United Nations Standard Products and Services Code
Medi Care Supplier
FedACH
FedWire
USA Weather Forecast
MortgageIndex
SunSetRiseService
GeoIPService
 Stock Quote
Currency Convertor
Global Weather
London Gold And Silver Fixing
Real Time Market Data
SendSMSWorld
OFAC SDN and Blocked Persons
Translation Engine
ABA Lookup

artful at rogers.com wrote:

>So help! Send me your list. I will rationalize it with the travel agency list, perhaps using columns to designate the lists. After all, we only have 26 letters. Shamil and various others could of course contribute additional alphabets. This obviously doesn't make sense in the various dialects of China, for example. Incidentally, I have heard or read that there are precisely 100 surnames in China. I find this difficult to believe, but it was explained to me as follows: Chang, Chong, Chuang, etc. all refer to the same ideogram, and the differences relate to dialects rather than their single symbolic reference.
>
>I have no idea whether this is correct. But it wouldn't strike me as remarkable if it were. Mind you, the decision about exactly 100 names would strike me as remarkable. If we have any Mandarin/Cantonese/Mongolian/etc. people, it would be useful to receive your input on this subject. A long time ago I was in Japan and used a computer that did translations from a phonetic language to the Japanese characters. I forget the names, but the basic idea was that one could type in "katana" or "shodan" or "wazashi", and this would translate into the appropriate ideograms, occasionally resulting in a listbox of similar words, along with their symbols. This was a long time ago, and I assume that the software has advanced vastly from there, but I haven't been back so I don't know.
>
>Returning to airport codes, I think that the world uses the English list, and that pilots use English as the lingua franca, but I'm not sure about that. Listers outside North America, please assist this ignorant Canadian.
>
>Arthur
>
>----- Original Message ----
>From: Mark A Matte <markamatte at hotmail.com>
>To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
>Sent: Tuesday, November 14, 2006 1:57:46 PM
>Subject: Re: [AccessD] Useful Lists
>
>Arthur,
>
>"I think it is identical to the similar
>list from the military, but perhaps not. (In case you don't know what I 
>mean,
>Able Baker Charlie etc.)
>"
>Refers to the phonetic alphabet.  US military version would be "Alpha, 
>Bravo,Charlie"
>
>Of all the lists you mentioned...its probably the only one I could 
>contribute to.  I know that different occupations and english speaking 
>peoples use a different variation of the list.
>
>I'd be glad to help any way I can.
>
>Thanks,
>
>Mark A. Matte
>
>  
>
>>From: artful at rogers.com
>>Reply-To: Access Developers discussion and problem 
>>solving<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
>>To: "AccessD at databaseadvisors. com" <AccessD at databaseadvisors.com>,   
>>dba-SQLServer <dba-SQLServer at databaseadvisors.com>
>>Subject: [AccessD] Useful Lists
>>Date: Tue, 14 Nov 2006 10:20:41 -0800 (PST)
>>
>>On the basis of the thread about airport lists, I proposed to Jim Lawrence 
>>that we accumulate a bunch of similar lists. As my father said when I 
>>joined the CDN Air Force at 17, "Don't volunteer for anything." O well. Jim 
>>has invited me to spearhead the acquisition of said lists, and I have 
>>accepted the assignment.
>>
>>So, to all of you listers, three questions:
>>
>>1. What lists do you possess that you think would be useful to your fellow 
>>AccessD/dba-SQL listers?
>>2. What lists do you lack that you desire?
>>
>>(I couldn't resist the old programmer's joke. There are three types of 
>>programmers -- those who can count and those who can't.)
>>
>>Chances are that more than one of you may volunteer to contribute similar 
>>or identical lists. The latter is easy to deal with. The former is a little 
>>tougher, since it might require UNIONing several lists, but that's ok.
>>
>>I have one list ready to go, which is the list of words corresponding to 
>>letters that travel agents use to spell names. I think it is identical to 
>>the similar list from the military, but perhaps not. (In case you don't 
>>know what I mean, Able Baker Charlie etc.)
>>
>>I also have another list of cities within North America, and states and 
>>provinces to correspond. It is not ready to go, there are some duplicates, 
>>but I could prune the dupes. The list consists only of those cities into 
>>which the company I was formerly associated with sold products, but it 
>>numbers about 5,000 cities, give or take 3. Far from exhaustive, but a good 
>>start, and similar lists could easily be UNIONed. That leaves out all the 
>>listers uninterested in cities in North America, but listers residing 
>>elsewhere might be able to contribute more cities. On this one, there is a 
>>difficulty. Within North America, there are states and provinces. In 
>>Switzerland, there are cantons.
>>
>>On this subject, I have just done some searches in dictionary.com and come 
>>up with some hilarious definitions:
>>
>>City -- an important town
>>Town -- a large village
>>Village -- a small community or group of houses in a rural area, larger 
>>than a
>>hamlet and usually smaller than a town, and sometimes (as in parts of
>>the U.S.) incorporated as a municipality.
>>Hamlet -- British. a village without a church of its own, belonging to the 
>>parish of another village or town.
>>County (the richest by far) --
>>1.the largest administrative division of a U.S. state: Miami, Florida, is 
>>in Dade County.
>>
>>2.one of the chief administrative divisions of a country or state, as in 
>>Great Britain and Ireland.
>>
>>3.one of the larger divisions for purposes of local administration, as in 
>>Canada and New Zealand.
>>
>>4.the territory of a county, esp. its rural areas, as in: "We farmed out in 
>>the county before moving to town.".
>>
>>5.the inhabitants of a county, as in, "It was supposed to be a secret, but 
>>you told the whole county.".
>>
>>6.the domain of a count or earl.
>>
>>
>>All these years I have been under the (clearly false) impression that 
>>precise population-numbers defined these terms. Apparently I have wrong, lo 
>>these decades. I have just taken a local poll (only 4 people) and the 
>>agreement here is that a city is 100,000 people or more; a town is 999,999 
>>people or fewer; a village is 2,000 people or fewer; a hamlet is 500 people 
>>or fewer. We four Canadians readily agreed on these numbers, but that might 
>>be something we picked up in school that has no relation to the larger 
>>world.
>>
>>Arthur
>>
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>>
>
>_________________________________________________________________
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>route!  http://local.live.com?FORM=MGA001
>
>
>  
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From artful at rogers.com  Wed Nov 15 00:46:35 2006
From: artful at rogers.com (artful at rogers.com)
Date: Tue, 14 Nov 2006 22:46:35 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [AccessD] ATA airport list for the DBA list
Message-ID: <20061115064635.85195.qmail@web88207.mail.re2.yahoo.com>

Nor could I. I just tried FF, IE7 and Opera, and I'm failing to see what Susan sees. Of course, this could be due to my age.

----- Original Message ----
From: Jim Lawrence <accessd at shaw.ca>
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Wednesday, November 15, 2006 12:23:10 AM
Subject: Re: [AccessD] ATA airport list for the DBA list

Hi Susan:

I can not seem to get the browsers to produce what you are seeing. Could you
display the inconsistency on your monitor, print it to a file and send me
the file off-line. In the meantime, what browser are you using?

TIA

Regards
Jim

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Susan Harkins
Sent: Tuesday, November 14, 2006 9:16 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: Re: [AccessD] ATA airport list for the DBA list

I see one plane. Above it and under the page title, there's a rectangular
white box. The only reason I can tell is because it blocks the gray border. 

Susan H. 

My browser mirrors the airplane left-right ...

>>> artful at rogers.com 14-11-2006 15:11:17 >>>
I'm running FF and not seeing anything weird. Looks just fine, and perhaps
fancy, to me. 


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From adtp at airtelbroadband.in  Wed Nov 15 01:32:23 2006
From: adtp at airtelbroadband.in (A.D.TEJPAL)
Date: Wed, 15 Nov 2006 13:02:23 +0530
Subject: [AccessD] Copy a record in a table
References: <010901c70853$0a2ce290$6a01a8c0@HAL9005>
Message-ID: <010e01c70888$cc8e97e0$a20c177d@pcadt>

Rocky,

    Apparently, you are looking for a straightforward method to copy an existing record to new record in the same table, without having to  bother with individual field names. It is presumed that the table has autonumber type primary key.

    Use of an insert statement with wild card for field names looks tempting and deceptively simple. However, it gets ruled out as the action would attempt to create a duplicate value in primary key field.

    A rough & ready method involves copying of desired record to clipboard and then pasting it on to the new record. This works smoothly, without attracting any error on a/c of attempted duplication of primary key value. Instead, correct autoonumber gets automatically  assigned to the newly pasted record, over-ruling the PK value in clipboard. Sample sub-routine named P_CopyRecordToNew(), as given at (A) below, demonstrates this approach.

    For ready reference, sample sub-routine P_InsertRecordCopy(), as given at (B) below, represents a more formal approach for accomplishing the same task.

    Once you put these subs in a general module, invoking the one at (B) should be equally convenient as the one at (A). Eventually, you might prefer the one at (B).

Best wishes,
A.D.Tejpal
---------------

A) Copy existing record to new record in same table
     (Rough & Ready method)
==================================
Sub P_CopyRecordToNew(ByVal TableName _
                    As String, ByVal PkName As String, _
                    ByVal PkNum As Long)
    DoCmd.OpenTable TableName
    DoCmd.GoToControl PkName
    DoCmd.FindRecord PkNum
    DoCmd.RunCommand acCmdSelectRecord
    DoCmd.RunCommand acCmdCopy
    DoCmd.GoToRecord , , acNewRec
    DoCmd.RunCommand acCmdPaste
    DoCmd.Close acTable, TableName, acSaveYes
End Sub
==================================

B) Copy existing record to new record in same table
     (Formal method)
==================================
Sub P_InsertRecordCopy(ByVal TableName _
                    As String, ByVal PkName As String, _
                    ByVal PkNum As Long)
    Dim Qst As String, FieldList As String
    Dim fd As Field
    Dim db As DAO.Database
    
    Set db = DBEngine(0)(0)
    FieldList = ""
    For Each fd In db.TableDefs(TableName).Fields
        If fd.Name <> PkName Then
            FieldList = FieldList & _
                            IIf(Len(FieldList) > 0, _
                            ", ", "") & fd.Name
        End If
    Next
    
    Qst = "Insert Into " & TableName & " (" & _
            FieldList & ") Select " & FieldList & _
            " From " & TableName & " Where " & _
            PkName & " = " & PkNum & ";"
    db.Execute Qst, dbFailOnError
    
    Set fd = Nothing
    Set db = Nothing
End Sub
==================================

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Beach Access Software 
  To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' 
  Sent: Wednesday, November 15, 2006 06:41
  Subject: [AccessD] Copy a record in a table

  Dear List: 

  Is there a quick or slick or elegant way to copy a record in a table to a
  new record in the same table - just duplicating a record 

  I've done it using DAO and cycling through the fields and creating the new record and adding it but that seems awfully crude.  

  MTIA 

  Rocky

From Gustav at cactus.dk  Wed Nov 15 04:18:16 2006
From: Gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Wed, 15 Nov 2006 11:18:16 +0100
Subject: [AccessD] Useful Lists
Message-ID: <s55af79c.080@cactus.dk>

Hi Arthur

You have a point here - note the previous message from Max about the outdated info for the BKK airport.

/gustav

>>> artful at rogers.com 15-11-2006 07:43 >>>
I will spend some time turning some of these into Access databases. These can easily be ported to any other database such as MS-SQL or Oracle or Sybase, etc. I admit that I have no idea what some of these designations mean (FedACH for example), but I'll look at the site and import what I can.

I just glanced at the site, and it raises an interesting question. Perhaps it is pointless to grab rapidly changing lists, since by definition they require frequent refreshment. The list of elements, or planets, or sexes, changes relatively infrequently. Maybe we ought to concentrate on infrequently changing lists and leave the rest to net-lookups?

Arthur



From Gustav at cactus.dk  Wed Nov 15 05:02:31 2006
From: Gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Wed, 15 Nov 2006 12:02:31 +0100
Subject: [AccessD] Copy a record in a table
Message-ID: <s55b01f8.082@cactus.dk>

Hi Rocky

Crude? How come? DAO is normally the fastest method to add a record to a recordset.
Here's a basic function:

<code>

Public Function CopyRecord( _
  ByVal strTable As String, _
  ByVal strId As String, _
  ByVal lngId As Long) _
  As Boolean

  Dim dbs     As DAO.Database
  Dim rst     As DAO.Recordset
  Dim rstAdd  As DAO.Recordset
  Dim fld     As DAO.Field
  Dim strFld  As String
  
  Set dbs = CurrentDb
  Set rst = dbs.OpenRecordset("Select * From " & strTable & " Where " & strId & "=" & lngId & ";")
  Set rstAdd = dbs.OpenRecordset("Select Top 1 * From " & strTable & ";")
  
  With rstAdd
    .AddNew
      For Each fld In rstAdd.Fields
        With fld
          strFld = .Name
          If Not strFld = strId Then
            .Value = rst.Fields(strFld).Value
          End If
        End With
      Next
    .Update
    .Close
  End With
  rst.Close
  
  Set fld = Nothing
  Set rstAdd = Nothing
  Set rst = Nothing
  Set dbs = Nothing
  
End Function

</code>

Of course, you will need to refine this for compound indices, other unique indices, OLE fields, default values etc. Also add error handling.

/gustav

>>> bchacc at san.rr.com 15-11-2006 02:11 >>>

Dear List:

Is there a quick or slick or elegant way to copy a record in a table to a
new record in the same table - just duplicating a record  

I've done it using DAO and cycling through the fields and creating the new
record and adding it but that seems awfully crude. 

MTIA
Rocky




From andy at minstersystems.co.uk  Wed Nov 15 05:50:16 2006
From: andy at minstersystems.co.uk (Andy Lacey)
Date: Wed, 15 Nov 2006 11:50:16 +0000
Subject: [AccessD] Useful Lists
Message-ID: <20061115115021.F331086DFE@smtp.nildram.co.uk>

I agree but I wonder, with the frequently changing lists, if having found
such a list and decided it changes too often you might document where to go
for the latest info.

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--------- Original Message --------
From: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving"
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
To: "accessd at databaseadvisors.com" <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Useful Lists
Date: 15/11/06 10:21


Hi Arthur

You have a point here - note the previous message from Max about the
outdated info for the BKK airport.

/gustav

>>> artful at rogers.com 15-11-2006 07:43 >>>
I will spend some time turning some of these into Access databases. These
can easily be ported to any other database such as MS-SQL or Oracle or
Sybase, etc. I admit that I have no idea what some of these designations
mean (FedACH for example), but I'll look at the site and import what I can.

I just glanced at the site, and it raises an interesting question. Perhaps
it is pointless to grab rapidly changing lists, since by definition they
require frequent refreshment. The list of elements, or planets, or sexes,
changes relatively infrequently. Maybe we ought to concentrate on
infrequently changing lists and leave the rest to net-lookups?

Arthur

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From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com  Wed Nov 15 06:35:20 2006
From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (JWColby)
Date: Wed, 15 Nov 2006 07:35:20 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Useful Lists
In-Reply-To: <20061115115021.F331086DFE@smtp.nildram.co.uk>
Message-ID: <001501c708b2$84e157f0$e1265b05@m6805>

Along with instructions on getting it? 


John W. Colby
Colby Consulting
www.ColbyConsulting.com

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Andy Lacey
Sent: Wednesday, November 15, 2006 6:50 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Useful Lists

I agree but I wonder, with the frequently changing lists, if having found
such a list and decided it changes too often you might document where to go
for the latest info.

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--------- Original Message --------
From: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving"
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
To: "accessd at databaseadvisors.com" <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Useful Lists
Date: 15/11/06 10:21


Hi Arthur

You have a point here - note the previous message from Max about the
outdated info for the BKK airport.

/gustav

>>> artful at rogers.com 15-11-2006 07:43 >>>
I will spend some time turning some of these into Access databases. These
can easily be ported to any other database such as MS-SQL or Oracle or
Sybase, etc. I admit that I have no idea what some of these designations
mean (FedACH for example), but I'll look at the site and import what I can.

I just glanced at the site, and it raises an interesting question. Perhaps
it is pointless to grab rapidly changing lists, since by definition they
require frequent refreshment. The list of elements, or planets, or sexes,
changes relatively infrequently. Maybe we ought to concentrate on
infrequently changing lists and leave the rest to net-lookups?

Arthur

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From bheid at appdevgrp.com  Wed Nov 15 06:41:44 2006
From: bheid at appdevgrp.com (Bobby Heid)
Date: Wed, 15 Nov 2006 07:41:44 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Copy a record in a table
In-Reply-To: <916187228923D311A6FE00A0CC3FAA30E6FBB1@ADGSERVER>
Message-ID: <916187228923D311A6FE00A0CC3FAA30D35AB5@ADGSERVER>

Rocky,

It will work, but you will have to name all of the fields except for
fldJobMasterID, which will be created with he autonumber.

Bobby

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Beach Access
Software
Sent: Wednesday, November 15, 2006 12:11 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Copy a record in a table


Oops.  My bad.  fldJobMasterID is an the Autonumber PK of tblJobMaster.
Won't work then, will it?

Rocky


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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Stuart McLachlan
Sent: Tuesday, November 14, 2006 8:24 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Copy a record in a table

On 14 Nov 2006 at 20:08, Beach Access Software wrote:

> Stuart:
> 
> I'm using
>         db.Execute "INSERT INTO tblJobMaster SELECT tblJobMaster.* FROM
> tblJobMaster " _
>      & "WHERE fldJobMasterID = " & rstJobMasterEquipmentIn!fldJobMasterID
> 
> But I get the cryptic 'Too few parameters.  Expected 1'.  Can you see what
> I'm doing wrong?

WHile developing, try using

strSQL = .....
Docmd.RunSQL strSQL
instead of .Execute.

You get much more helpful error messages that way.

Just a WAG but  is fldJobMasterID a PK or constrained to being unique?

Creating a new record like this, you are trying to create another record in
the table with ALL of the fields the same, including any 
unique fields,PK or otherwise.  (You did ask originally to "duplicate" a
record in a table) 



From Gustav at cactus.dk  Wed Nov 15 06:45:40 2006
From: Gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Wed, 15 Nov 2006 13:45:40 +0100
Subject: [AccessD] MS Office SharePoint 2007 book on-line
Message-ID: <s55b1a1a.083@cactus.dk>

Hi all

The 236 page pdf book

7 Development Projects for Microsoft Office SharePoint Server 2007 and Windows SharePoint Services Version 3.0

is for download:

http://go.microsoft.com/?linkid=5775684

/gustav



From prodevmg at yahoo.com  Wed Nov 15 08:09:26 2006
From: prodevmg at yahoo.com (Lonnie Johnson)
Date: Wed, 15 Nov 2006 06:09:26 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [AccessD] Control which record shows at top of subform
Message-ID: <20061115140926.55903.qmail@web33114.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

I have a subform and have buttons that navigate to certain records. Sometimes when the requested record is located it appears in the middle of the subform.

I have the subform sized to show a certain amount of records at a time and want the "found" record to be at the top of my list.

Is this possible?
 








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From dwaters at usinternet.com  Wed Nov 15 08:21:40 2006
From: dwaters at usinternet.com (Dan Waters)
Date: Wed, 15 Nov 2006 08:21:40 -0600
Subject: [AccessD] Requirements Development
In-Reply-To: <21386214.1163519689078.JavaMail.root@sniper25>
Message-ID: <002401c708c1$5eef4d40$0200a8c0@danwaters>

Hi Arthur,

It turns out that your link is issue #2 of a six-part requirements 'E-Zine'
published electronically every 2 months by a company called Ravenflow.  It
looks like excellent information!

Sign up for all six issues here:
http://www.ravenflow.com/


You can get issues #1 and #2 here:
http://www.nxtbook.com/nxtbooks/cmp/ddj-ravenflow1/
http://www.nxtbook.com/nxtbooks/cmp/ddj-ravenflow2/

Apparently issue #3 isn't released yet.


Dan Waters

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Subject: [AccessD] Requirements Development

What a timely arrival, given the thread about writing requirements.

http://newsletters.sdmediagroup.com/cgi-bin4/DM/y/h1mC0GGzBY0JSg0ErCM0E1

(You will probably have to register for this, but it's free.)

Arthur




From artful at rogers.com  Wed Nov 15 08:27:03 2006
From: artful at rogers.com (artful at rogers.com)
Date: Wed, 15 Nov 2006 06:27:03 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [AccessD] Useful Lists
Message-ID: <20061115142703.9547.qmail@web88209.mail.re2.yahoo.com>

That was my point, Andy. Such lists might be better served with lookups to web sites.

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Sent: Wednesday, November 15, 2006 6:50:16 AM
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Useful Lists

I agree but I wonder, with the frequently changing lists, if having found
such a list and decided it changes too often you might document where to go
for the latest info.

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To: "accessd at databaseadvisors.com" <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Useful Lists
Date: 15/11/06 10:21


Hi Arthur

You have a point here - note the previous message from Max about the
outdated info for the BKK airport.

/gustav

>>> artful at rogers.com 15-11-2006 07:43 >>>
I will spend some time turning some of these into Access databases. These
can easily be ported to any other database such as MS-SQL or Oracle or
Sybase, etc. I admit that I have no idea what some of these designations
mean (FedACH for example), but I'll look at the site and import what I can.

I just glanced at the site, and it raises an interesting question. Perhaps
it is pointless to grab rapidly changing lists, since by definition they
require frequent refreshment. The list of elements, or planets, or sexes,
changes relatively infrequently. Maybe we ought to concentrate on
infrequently changing lists and leave the rest to net-lookups?

Arthur

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From bchacc at san.rr.com  Wed Nov 15 08:36:40 2006
From: bchacc at san.rr.com (Beach Access Software)
Date: Wed, 15 Nov 2006 06:36:40 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] Copy a record in a table
In-Reply-To: <010e01c70888$cc8e97e0$a20c177d@pcadt>
Message-ID: <002601c708c3$7735adc0$6401a8c0@HAL9005>

A.D.:

Thanks for those routines.  A looks like it will work only if the recordset
is bound to the form? And then will copy the current record? Or will it work
on any table even if it is not the record source?  

I'm not familiar with all those commands but I'll look them up in Help.

Thanks again fro your response.

Best,

Rocky


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of A.D.TEJPAL
Sent: Tuesday, November 14, 2006 11:32 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Copy a record in a table

Rocky,

    Apparently, you are looking for a straightforward method to copy an
existing record to new record in the same table, without having to  bother
with individual field names. It is presumed that the table has autonumber
type primary key.

    Use of an insert statement with wild card for field names looks tempting
and deceptively simple. However, it gets ruled out as the action would
attempt to create a duplicate value in primary key field.

    A rough & ready method involves copying of desired record to clipboard
and then pasting it on to the new record. This works smoothly, without
attracting any error on a/c of attempted duplication of primary key value.
Instead, correct autoonumber gets automatically  assigned to the newly
pasted record, over-ruling the PK value in clipboard. Sample sub-routine
named P_CopyRecordToNew(), as given at (A) below, demonstrates this
approach.

    For ready reference, sample sub-routine P_InsertRecordCopy(), as given
at (B) below, represents a more formal approach for accomplishing the same
task.

    Once you put these subs in a general module, invoking the one at (B)
should be equally convenient as the one at (A). Eventually, you might prefer
the one at (B).

Best wishes,
A.D.Tejpal
---------------

A) Copy existing record to new record in same table
     (Rough & Ready method)
==================================
Sub P_CopyRecordToNew(ByVal TableName _
                    As String, ByVal PkName As String, _
                    ByVal PkNum As Long)
    DoCmd.OpenTable TableName
    DoCmd.GoToControl PkName
    DoCmd.FindRecord PkNum
    DoCmd.RunCommand acCmdSelectRecord
    DoCmd.RunCommand acCmdCopy
    DoCmd.GoToRecord , , acNewRec
    DoCmd.RunCommand acCmdPaste
    DoCmd.Close acTable, TableName, acSaveYes
End Sub
==================================

B) Copy existing record to new record in same table
     (Formal method)
==================================
Sub P_InsertRecordCopy(ByVal TableName _
                    As String, ByVal PkName As String, _
                    ByVal PkNum As Long)
    Dim Qst As String, FieldList As String
    Dim fd As Field
    Dim db As DAO.Database
    
    Set db = DBEngine(0)(0)
    FieldList = ""
    For Each fd In db.TableDefs(TableName).Fields
        If fd.Name <> PkName Then
            FieldList = FieldList & _
                            IIf(Len(FieldList) > 0, _
                            ", ", "") & fd.Name
        End If
    Next
    
    Qst = "Insert Into " & TableName & " (" & _
            FieldList & ") Select " & FieldList & _
            " From " & TableName & " Where " & _
            PkName & " = " & PkNum & ";"
    db.Execute Qst, dbFailOnError
    
    Set fd = Nothing
    Set db = Nothing
End Sub
==================================

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  From: Beach Access Software 
  To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' 
  Sent: Wednesday, November 15, 2006 06:41
  Subject: [AccessD] Copy a record in a table

  Dear List: 

  Is there a quick or slick or elegant way to copy a record in a table to a
  new record in the same table - just duplicating a record 

  I've done it using DAO and cycling through the fields and creating the new
record and adding it but that seems awfully crude.  

  MTIA 

  Rocky
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From bchacc at san.rr.com  Wed Nov 15 08:42:47 2006
From: bchacc at san.rr.com (Beach Access Software)
Date: Wed, 15 Nov 2006 06:42:47 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] Copy a record in a table
In-Reply-To: <s55b01f8.082@cactus.dk>
Message-ID: <002701c708c4$5182fe60$6401a8c0@HAL9005>

G:

I'm a big DAO fan.  Do lots of little things with it.  So I love the
routine.  My approach on this one, since there were only five fields in the
table was to Dim a variable for each field, put the values in the variables,
do an .AddNew, and copy the variables into the new records fields.  That's
crude!  Yours isn't.

Best,

Rocky


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gustav Brock
Sent: Wednesday, November 15, 2006 3:03 AM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Copy a record in a table

Hi Rocky

Crude? How come? DAO is normally the fastest method to add a record to a
recordset.
Here's a basic function:

<code>

Public Function CopyRecord( _
  ByVal strTable As String, _
  ByVal strId As String, _
  ByVal lngId As Long) _
  As Boolean

  Dim dbs     As DAO.Database
  Dim rst     As DAO.Recordset
  Dim rstAdd  As DAO.Recordset
  Dim fld     As DAO.Field
  Dim strFld  As String
  
  Set dbs = CurrentDb
  Set rst = dbs.OpenRecordset("Select * From " & strTable & " Where " &
strId & "=" & lngId & ";")
  Set rstAdd = dbs.OpenRecordset("Select Top 1 * From " & strTable & ";")
  
  With rstAdd
    .AddNew
      For Each fld In rstAdd.Fields
        With fld
          strFld = .Name
          If Not strFld = strId Then
            .Value = rst.Fields(strFld).Value
          End If
        End With
      Next
    .Update
    .Close
  End With
  rst.Close
  
  Set fld = Nothing
  Set rstAdd = Nothing
  Set rst = Nothing
  Set dbs = Nothing
  
End Function

</code>

Of course, you will need to refine this for compound indices, other unique
indices, OLE fields, default values etc. Also add error handling.

/gustav

>>> bchacc at san.rr.com 15-11-2006 02:11 >>>

Dear List:

Is there a quick or slick or elegant way to copy a record in a table to a
new record in the same table - just duplicating a record  

I've done it using DAO and cycling through the fields and creating the new
record and adding it but that seems awfully crude. 

MTIA
Rocky


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From ewaldt at gdls.com  Wed Nov 15 08:58:53 2006
From: ewaldt at gdls.com (ewaldt at gdls.com)
Date: Wed, 15 Nov 2006 09:58:53 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Filling in the CrossTab Help Request
In-Reply-To: <mailman.14025.1163521322.17650.accessd@databaseadvisors.com>
Message-ID: <OFCC069621.8FF91A60-ON85257227.00521FF0-85257227.005279C9@is002023.gdls.com>

I have a table with steps numbering 1 to 24; those numbers are shown as 
column headers in the crosstab. My crosstab only shows those columns for 
which there is data, of course. Is there a way to adapt it to show all 24 
numbers, even if the columns are empty of data? 

TIA.

Thomas F. Ewald
FCS Database Manager
General Dynamics Land Systems
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From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com  Wed Nov 15 09:19:30 2006
From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (JWColby)
Date: Wed, 15 Nov 2006 10:19:30 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Control which record shows at top of subform
In-Reply-To: <20061115140926.55903.qmail@web33114.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <001e01c708c9$73208bf0$e1265b05@m6805>

The short answer is not easily.

If somebody here provides a solution I too will be smiling!

John W. Colby
Colby Consulting
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[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Lonnie Johnson
Sent: Wednesday, November 15, 2006 9:09 AM
To: AccessD solving'
Subject: [AccessD] Control which record shows at top of subform

I have a subform and have buttons that navigate to certain records.
Sometimes when the requested record is located it appears in the middle of
the subform.

I have the subform sized to show a certain amount of records at a time and
want the "found" record to be at the top of my list.

Is this possible?
 








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From andy at minstersystems.co.uk  Wed Nov 15 09:21:09 2006
From: andy at minstersystems.co.uk (Andy Lacey)
Date: Wed, 15 Nov 2006 15:21:09 +0000
Subject: [AccessD] Useful Lists
Message-ID: <20061115152113.C2A0B5582F@smtp.nildram.co.uk>

Oh yeah I see that now when I reread your post. Sorry Arthur.

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To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving"
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Useful Lists
Date: 15/11/06 14:28


That was my point, Andy. Such lists might be better served with lookups to
web sites.

----- Original Message ----
From: Andy Lacey <andy at minstersystems.co.uk>
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Wednesday, November 15, 2006 6:50:16 AM
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Useful Lists

I agree but I wonder, with the frequently changing lists, if having found
such a list and decided it changes too often you might document where to go
for the latest info.

--
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http://www.minstersystems.co.uk




--------- Original Message --------
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<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
To: "accessd at databaseadvisors.com" <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Useful Lists
Date: 15/11/06 10:21


Hi Arthur

You have a point here - note the previous message from Max about the
outdated info for the BKK airport.

/gustav

>>> artful at rogers.com 15-11-2006 07:43 >>>
I will spend some time turning some of these into Access databases. These
can easily be ported to any other database such as MS-SQL or Oracle or
Sybase, etc. I admit that I have no idea what some of these designations
mean (FedACH for example), but I'll look at the site and import what I can.

I just glanced at the site, and it raises an interesting question. Perhaps
it is pointless to grab rapidly changing lists, since by definition they
require frequent refreshment. The list of elements, or planets, or sexes,
changes relatively infrequently. Maybe we ought to concentrate on
infrequently changing lists and leave the rest to net-lookups?

Arthur

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From Lambert.Heenan at AIG.com  Wed Nov 15 09:22:42 2006
From: Lambert.Heenan at AIG.com (Heenan, Lambert)
Date: Wed, 15 Nov 2006 10:22:42 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Filling in the CrossTab Help Request
Message-ID: <34C8A2AB1EF3564CB0D64DB6AFFDD5C222E082@xlivmbx35.aig.com>

Sure.

Open the Crosstab query in design mode. On the property sheet you will find
a "Column Headings" property. Just fill this with a list of your columns ...

"Qtr 1", "Qtr 2", "Qtr 3", "Qtr 4"

... then you will always have all columns reported, and in the order you
specify.

HTH


Lambert

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Sent: Wednesday, November 15, 2006 9:59 AM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [AccessD] Filling in the CrossTab Help Request


I have a table with steps numbering 1 to 24; those numbers are shown as 
column headers in the crosstab. My crosstab only shows those columns for 
which there is data, of course. Is there a way to adapt it to show all 24 
numbers, even if the columns are empty of data? 

TIA.

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FCS Database Manager
General Dynamics Land Systems
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From gjgiever at myway.com  Wed Nov 15 09:40:31 2006
From: gjgiever at myway.com (Gary J. Giever)
Date: Wed, 15 Nov 2006 10:40:31 -0500 (EST)
Subject: [AccessD] Open a database
Message-ID: <20061115154031.23AFF757F9@mprdmxin.myway.com>


This is frustrating.  All I want to do is open another database from the currently open database.  The code is like the help examples:

Dim dbMyDB As Database
Dim strDBName As String
strDBName = "C:\My Documents\ClientMasterUpdate.mdb"
Set dbMyDB = DBEngine.Workspaces(0).OpenDatabase(strDBName)

But nothing happens.  What am I missing?


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From reuben at gfconsultants.com  Wed Nov 15 09:54:05 2006
From: reuben at gfconsultants.com (Reuben Cummings)
Date: Wed, 15 Nov 2006 10:54:05 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Control which record shows at top of subform
In-Reply-To: <001e01c708c9$73208bf0$e1265b05@m6805>
Message-ID: <DPEKLCIHBOJKCKJECLCPIEFHECAA.reuben@gfconsultants.com>

There's a difference between being at the top of the list and being "shown"
at the top of the list.

I've set up some continuous forms that upon opening highlight the line that
corresponds to today's date.  It doesn't put that line at the top of the
list, but it does "look" like it's the top of the list.  I do this by
running thru the recordset until I find the record I want and then set the
bookmark to that record and refresh the form.

If you actually want it at the top could you add a field to the table and
use it as a "marker"?  When you find what should be the first record set the
record to 0 and all the other records in this recordset = 1.  Sort ascending
and you now have the appropriate record at the top.  You could do all this
using the recordsetclone.

I have never tried the second option - it's just an idea.

Reuben Cummings
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> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of JWColby
> Sent: Wednesday, November 15, 2006 10:20 AM
> To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] Control which record shows at top of subform
>
>
> The short answer is not easily.
>
> If somebody here provides a solution I too will be smiling!
>
> John W. Colby
> Colby Consulting
> www.ColbyConsulting.com
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Lonnie Johnson
> Sent: Wednesday, November 15, 2006 9:09 AM
> To: AccessD solving'
> Subject: [AccessD] Control which record shows at top of subform
>
> I have a subform and have buttons that navigate to certain records.
> Sometimes when the requested record is located it appears in the middle of
> the subform.
>
> I have the subform sized to show a certain amount of records at a time and
> want the "found" record to be at the top of my list.
>
> Is this possible?
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> May God bless you beyond your imagination!
> Lonnie Johnson
> ProDev, Professional Development of MS Access Databases Visit me at ==>
> http://www.prodev.us
>
>
>
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From Lambert.Heenan at AIG.com  Wed Nov 15 09:58:09 2006
From: Lambert.Heenan at AIG.com (Heenan, Lambert)
Date: Wed, 15 Nov 2006 10:58:09 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Open a database
Message-ID: <34C8A2AB1EF3564CB0D64DB6AFFDD5C222E0B9@xlivmbx35.aig.com>

What your code does is create an object (dbMyDB) to point to the external
mdb file. You would then be able to manipulate the tables, queries etc. in
that file via code.

It sounds like you want to actually start up the other database. For that
there are various ways. For example...

Sub OpenAnotherDb()

Dim strDBName As String
Dim dbl_D As Double
Dim strCommandLine As String

        strDBName = "C:\My Documents\ClientMasterUpdate.mdb"
        strCommandLine = Quote(SysCmd(acSysCmdAccessDir) & _
            "MSACCESS.EXE") & " " & Quote(strDBName )
        dbl_D = Shell(strCommandLine, vbNormalFocus)
        Application.Quit acQuitSaveNone ' closes the *current* database
End Sub

Function Quote(aString) As String
    Quote = """" & aString & """"
End Function

HTH

Lambert

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gary J. Giever
Sent: Wednesday, November 15, 2006 10:41 AM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [AccessD] Open a database



This is frustrating.  All I want to do is open another database from the
currently open database.  The code is like the help examples:

Dim dbMyDB As Database
Dim strDBName As String
strDBName = "C:\My Documents\ClientMasterUpdate.mdb"
Set dbMyDB = DBEngine.Workspaces(0).OpenDatabase(strDBName)

But nothing happens.  What am I missing?


Gary J. Giever, M.A.
Applications Developer
ACCMHS

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From cfoust at infostatsystems.com  Wed Nov 15 10:00:44 2006
From: cfoust at infostatsystems.com (Charlotte Foust)
Date: Wed, 15 Nov 2006 08:00:44 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] Open a database
In-Reply-To: <20061115154031.23AFF757F9@mprdmxin.myway.com>
Message-ID: <F55048AF7E974F429BB24597D7355EEA178404@INFOSERVER04.infostat.local>

The code is just a way to open and then manipulate another database from
the current one.  What is it that you want to happen?  If you try to
work with dbMyDB after that line, does it throw an error?   If not, then
it's working. 

Charlotte Foust

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[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gary J.
Giever
Sent: Wednesday, November 15, 2006 7:41 AM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [AccessD] Open a database


This is frustrating.  All I want to do is open another database from the
currently open database.  The code is like the help examples:

Dim dbMyDB As Database
Dim strDBName As String
strDBName = "C:\My Documents\ClientMasterUpdate.mdb"
Set dbMyDB = DBEngine.Workspaces(0).OpenDatabase(strDBName)

But nothing happens.  What am I missing?


Gary J. Giever, M.A.
Applications Developer
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From Jim.Hale at FleetPride.com  Wed Nov 15 10:15:50 2006
From: Jim.Hale at FleetPride.com (Hale, Jim)
Date: Wed, 15 Nov 2006 10:15:50 -0600
Subject: [AccessD] Filling in the CrossTab Help Request
Message-ID: <6A6AA9DF57E4F046BDA1E273BDDB67727DE106@corp-es01.fleetpride.com>

check out p157 of Getz's ADH. He suggests using an IN clause of the form
PIVOT column-headings-field[IN((value1[,value2],...]])]
HTH
Jim Hale

-----Original Message-----
From: ewaldt at gdls.com [mailto:ewaldt at gdls.com]
Sent: Wednesday, November 15, 2006 8:59 AM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [AccessD] Filling in the CrossTab Help Request


I have a table with steps numbering 1 to 24; those numbers are shown as 
column headers in the crosstab. My crosstab only shows those columns for 
which there is data, of course. Is there a way to adapt it to show all 24 
numbers, even if the columns are empty of data? 

TIA.

Thomas F. Ewald
FCS Database Manager
General Dynamics Land Systems
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From rl_stewart at highstream.net  Wed Nov 15 10:29:44 2006
From: rl_stewart at highstream.net (Robert L. Stewart)
Date: Wed, 15 Nov 2006 10:29:44 -0600
Subject: [AccessD] Useful Lists
In-Reply-To: <mailman.14885.1163600827.17650.accessd@databaseadvisors.co
 m>
References: <mailman.14885.1163600827.17650.accessd@databaseadvisors.com>
Message-ID: <200611151630.kAFGU6q12304@databaseadvisors.com>

Oh Well,

I tried their postal code web service for the USA.
Mine is 77418.  The area code changed over 5 years
ago from 409 to 979.  Their service is still returning
409 as the area code.

Are they maintaining the data?  If not, what use is
a bad list of data?

I am willing to host the databases in SQL Server for
all to connect to for the data.  As long as we all
behave and keep the list up to date as well as not
put junk into them.  I have a couple, like the postal
code list, some of the ISO standards lists for country
codes, SIC and NAICS code, and so on that I can start
it with it any one else is interested.  I also have some
of the TIGER data tables for the USA.

Robert

At 08:27 AM 11/15/2006, you wrote:
>Date: Tue, 14 Nov 2006 21:08:15 -0800
>From: MartyConnelly <martyconnelly at shaw.ca>
>Subject: Re: [AccessD] Useful Lists
>To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
>         <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
>Message-ID: <455AA0BF.7050407 at shaw.ca>
>Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed
>
>In addition to lists there are public web services that provide things like
>those listed below from places like
>http://www.webservicex.net/WS/default.aspx




From dwaters at usinternet.com  Wed Nov 15 10:29:45 2006
From: dwaters at usinternet.com (Dan Waters)
Date: Wed, 15 Nov 2006 10:29:45 -0600
Subject: [AccessD] Control which record shows at top of subform
In-Reply-To: <21949219.1163605192781.JavaMail.root@sniper5>
Message-ID: <003f01c708d3$4388d0f0$0200a8c0@danwaters>

Hi Lonnie,

Long ago I found code to do this from a site somewhere.  I'll post it here.
I haven't used it but you may be able to.

---------------------------------------------------------------------

Option Compare Database
Option Explicit

Private Const GWL_STYLE = (-16)

' GetWindow() Constants
Private Const GW_HWNDNEXT = 2
Private Const GW_CHILD = 5

' Scroll Bar Constants
Private Const SB_HORZ = 0
Private Const SB_CTL = 2
Private Const SB_VERT = 1

' ScrollInfo fMask's
Private Const SIF_RANGE = &H1
Private Const SIF_PAGE = &H2
Private Const SIF_POS = &H4
Private Const SIF_DISABLENOSCROLL = &H8
Private Const SIF_TRACKPOS = &H10
Private Const SIF_ALL = (SIF_RANGE Or SIF_PAGE Or SIF_POS Or SIF_TRACKPOS)

' Scroll Bar Styles
Private Const SBS_HORZ = &H0&
Private Const SBS_VERT = &H1&

Private Declare Function apiGetScrollInfo Lib "user32" Alias "GetScrollInfo"
(ByVal hwnd As Long, ByVal n As Long, lpScrollInfo As SCROLLINFO) As Long
Private Declare Function apiGetWindow Lib "user32" Alias "GetWindow" (ByVal
hwnd As Long, ByVal wCmd As Long) As Long
Private Declare Function apiGetWindowLong Lib "user32" Alias
"GetWindowLongA" (ByVal hwnd As Long, ByVal nIndex As Long) As Long
Private Declare Function apiGetClassName Lib "user32" Alias "GetClassNameA"
(ByVal hwnd As Long, ByVal lpClassName As String, ByVal nMaxCount As Long)
As Long

Private Type SCROLLINFO
    cbSize As Long
    fMask As Long
    nMin As Long
    nMax As Long
    nPage As Long
    nPos As Long
    nTrackPos As Long
End Type

Public Function GetScrollBarPosition(frm As Form) As Long
On Error GoTo EH

    ' Return ScrollBar Thumb position for the Vertical Scrollbar attached to
the Form passed to this Function.

    Dim hWndSB As Long
    Dim lngRet As Long
    Dim sinfo As SCROLLINFO

    '-- Init SCROLLINFO structure
    sinfo.fMask = SIF_ALL
    sinfo.cbSize = Len(sinfo)
    sinfo.nPos = 0
    sinfo.nTrackPos = 0

    '-- Call function to get handle to
    '-- ScrollBar control if it is visible
    hWndSB = IsScrollBar(frm)
    If hWndSB = -1 Then
        GetScrollBarPosition = False
        Exit Function
    End If

    '-- Get the window's ScrollBar position
    lngRet = apiGetScrollInfo(hWndSB, SB_CTL, sinfo)
    GetScrollBarPosition = sinfo.nPos + 1

    Exit Function

EH:
    Application.Echo True

End Function

Private Function IsScrollBar(frm As Form) As Long
On Error GoTo EH

    Dim hWnd_VSB As Long
    Dim hwnd As Long

    '-- Get ScrollBar's hWnd
    hwnd = frm.hwnd

    '-- Get first Child Window of the FORM
    hWnd_VSB = apiGetWindow(hwnd, GW_CHILD)

    '-- Walk through every sibling window of the Form
    Do
        If GetClassName(hWnd_VSB) = "scrollBar" Then
            If apiGetWindowLong(hWnd_VSB, GWL_STYLE) And SBS_VERT Then
                IsScrollBar = hWnd_VSB
                Exit Function
            End If
        End If

        '-- Get the NEXT SIBLING Window
        hWnd_VSB = apiGetWindow(hWnd_VSB, GW_HWNDNEXT)

        '-- Start the process from the Top again
        '-- Really just an error check
    Loop While hWnd_VSB <> 0

    '-- If no vertical ScrollBar control is currently visible for this Form
then
    IsScrollBar = -1

    Exit Function

EH:
    Application.Echo True

End Function

Private Function GetClassName(hwnd As Long) As String
On Error GoTo EH

    Dim strBuffer As String
    Dim lngLen As Long

    Const MAX_LEN = 255

    strBuffer = Space$(MAX_LEN)
    lngLen = apiGetClassName(hwnd, strBuffer, MAX_LEN)
    If lngLen > 0 Then
        GetClassName = Left$(strBuffer, lngLen)
    End If

    Exit Function

EH:
    Application.Echo True

End Function

-------------------------------------------------------------------------

Dan Waters


-----Original Message-----
Subject: [AccessD] Control which record shows at top of subform

I have a subform and have buttons that navigate to certain records.
Sometimes when the requested record is located it appears in the middle of
the subform.

I have the subform sized to show a certain amount of records at a time and
want the "found" record to be at the top of my list.

Is this possible?
 








May God bless you beyond your imagination!
Lonnie Johnson
ProDev, Professional Development of MS Access Databases
Visit me at ==> http://www.prodev.us


 
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From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com  Wed Nov 15 10:41:36 2006
From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (JWColby)
Date: Wed, 15 Nov 2006 11:41:36 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Filling in the CrossTab Help Request
In-Reply-To: <6A6AA9DF57E4F046BDA1E273BDDB67727DE106@corp-es01.fleetpride.com>
Message-ID: <001f01c708d4$eb42eff0$e1265b05@m6805>

I do that and it works great.  However if the value of or quantity of these
values change, the in clause has to be manually edited.  Yuk. 


John W. Colby
Colby Consulting
www.ColbyConsulting.com

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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Hale, Jim
Sent: Wednesday, November 15, 2006 11:16 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Filling in the CrossTab Help Request

check out p157 of Getz's ADH. He suggests using an IN clause of the form
PIVOT column-headings-field[IN((value1[,value2],...]])]
HTH
Jim Hale

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From: ewaldt at gdls.com [mailto:ewaldt at gdls.com]
Sent: Wednesday, November 15, 2006 8:59 AM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [AccessD] Filling in the CrossTab Help Request


I have a table with steps numbering 1 to 24; those numbers are shown as
column headers in the crosstab. My crosstab only shows those columns for
which there is data, of course. Is there a way to adapt it to show all 24
numbers, even if the columns are empty of data? 

TIA.

Thomas F. Ewald
FCS Database Manager
General Dynamics Land Systems
(586) 276-1256





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From markamatte at hotmail.com  Wed Nov 15 11:11:10 2006
From: markamatte at hotmail.com (Mark A Matte)
Date: Wed, 15 Nov 2006 17:11:10 +0000
Subject: [AccessD] Carry Forward in a query
In-Reply-To: <F1DD538AE6BCE74EBE562DE51564D32202246A05@houexch1.kindermorgan.com>
Message-ID: <BAY127-F388AEC4E6ECD50CC860A45D2EA0@phx.gbl>

Chester,

Just out of curiosity...why does it have to be a query and not code?...and 
in this scenario could call a custom function from the query?

Just curious,

Mark A. Matte


>From: "Kaup, Chester" <Chester_Kaup at kindermorgan.com>
>Reply-To: Access Developers discussion and problem 
>solving<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
>To: "Access Developers discussion and problem 
>solving"<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
>Subject: Re: [AccessD] Carry Forward in a query
>Date: Tue, 14 Nov 2006 16:40:39 -0600
>
>Here is what I have now. One table with dates and one table like below.
>Query SQL as below. This works great.
>
>SELECT T_PriceCurrent.SDate,
>(Select Price from T_PriceIndex as T1 where T1.SDate=(Select Max(SDate)
>from T_PriceIndex AS T2 where T2.SDate<=T_PriceCurrent.SDate))
>AS PriceCurrent
>FROM T_PriceCurrent;
>
>SDate		Price
>1/1/2005	8.56
>1/23/2005	8.73
>2/14/2005	8.40
>3/1/2005	8.00
>3/12/2005	8.45
>3/27/2005	8.95
>4/7/2005	8.12
>4/30/2005	7.95
>5/14/2005	8.03
>5/27/2005	8.24
>6/10/2005	9.03
>6/25/2005	9.17
>7/3/2005	9.25
>7/27/2005	9.40
>8/3/2005	9.64
>
>What I cannot figure how to do is make it work if table looks like
>below. I need output for each Pattern.
>Pattern	SDate	Price
>1	1/1/2005	8.56
>1	1/23/2005	8.73
>1	2/14/2005	8.40
>1	3/1/2005	8.00
>1	3/12/2005	8.45
>1	3/27/2005	8.95
>1	4/7/2005	8.12
>1	4/30/2005	7.95
>1	5/14/2005	8.03
>1	5/27/2005	8.24
>1	6/10/2005	9.03
>1	6/25/2005	9.17
>1	7/3/2005	9.25
>1	7/27/2005	9.40
>1	8/3/2005	9.64
>2	1/7/2005	8.27
>2	1/24/2005	8.71
>2	2/13/2005	8.35
>2	3/2/2005	8.02
>2	3/13/2005	8.44
>2	3/28/2005	8.93
>2	4/6/2005	8.10
>2	4/28/2005	7.98
>2	5/15/2005	8.05
>2	5/25/2005	8.20
>2	6/9/2005	9.00
>2	6/20/2005	9.15
>2	7/1/2005	9.23
>2	7/25/2005	9.35
>2	8/4/2005	9.65
>2	8/15/2005	9.50
>
>Thanks for any ideas.
>
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>[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Hale, Jim
>Sent: Tuesday, November 14, 2006 3:59 PM
>To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
>Subject: Re: [AccessD] Carry Forward in a query
>
>If I understand what you want to do, I have done this with a non
>cartesian
>join. I create a table with a one field record and  one record for each
>date. In the query window I place this table and the table with the
>record
>you want to duplicate WITHOUT ANY JOIN. the resulting data set produces
>one
>record for each date. HTH
>Jim Hale
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Kaup, Chester [mailto:Chester_Kaup at kindermorgan.com]
>Sent: Tuesday, November 14, 2006 3:13 PM
>To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
>Subject: [AccessD] Carry Forward in a query
>
>
>I have a table of data that has a record about every 6 months. I would
>like to generate a record for every month using the previous months data
>until there is data for the current records month. I can do this in code
>but had a coworker ask if it could be done in a query. I am not coming
>up with an answer. Your thoughts please.
>
>
>
>Chester Kaup
>
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>
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From ewaldt at gdls.com  Wed Nov 15 11:13:23 2006
From: ewaldt at gdls.com (ewaldt at gdls.com)
Date: Wed, 15 Nov 2006 12:13:23 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Filling in the CrossTab Help Request
In-Reply-To: <34C8A2AB1EF3564CB0D64DB6AFFDD5C222E082@xlivmbx35.aig.com>
Message-ID: <OF725AFDC8.0D0AC8CD-ON85257227.005E8783-85257227.005ECA1B@is002023.gdls.com>

Yup, just like with months, days of the week, etc. I just couldn't 
remember how to do it; it had been a long time since I'd needed to do so.

Thanks for your help.

Thomas F. Ewald
FCS Database Manager
General Dynamics Land Systems
(586) 276-1256






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11/15/2006 10:22 AM

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RE: [AccessD] Filling in the CrossTab Help Request






Sure.

Open the Crosstab query in design mode. On the property sheet you will 
find
a "Column Headings" property. Just fill this with a list of your columns 
...

"Qtr 1", "Qtr 2", "Qtr 3", "Qtr 4"

... then you will always have all columns reported, and in the order you
specify.

HTH


Lambert

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Sent: Wednesday, November 15, 2006 9:59 AM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [AccessD] Filling in the CrossTab Help Request


I have a table with steps numbering 1 to 24; those numbers are shown as 
column headers in the crosstab. My crosstab only shows those columns for 
which there is data, of course. Is there a way to adapt it to show all 24 
numbers, even if the columns are empty of data? 

TIA.

Thomas F. Ewald
FCS Database Manager
General Dynamics Land Systems
(586) 276-1256





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From gjgiever at myway.com  Wed Nov 15 11:28:08 2006
From: gjgiever at myway.com (Gary J. Giever)
Date: Wed, 15 Nov 2006 12:28:08 -0500 (EST)
Subject: [AccessD] Open a database
Message-ID: <20061115172808.453E3757D5@mprdmxin.myway.com>


Yes.  That was what I needed.  I misunderstood what the original code was doing.  

Thank you.


Gary J. Giever, M.A.
Applications Developer
ACCMHS



 --- On Wed 11/15, Heenan, Lambert < Lambert.Heenan at aig.com > wrote:
From: Heenan, Lambert [mailto: Lambert.Heenan at aig.com]
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Date: Wed, 15 Nov 2006 10:58:09 -0500
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Open a database

What your code does is create an object (dbMyDB) to point to the externalmdb file. You would then be able to manipulate the tables, queries etc. inthat file via code.It sounds like you want to actually start up the other database. For thatthere are various ways. For example...Sub OpenAnotherDb()Dim strDBName As StringDim dbl_D As DoubleDim strCommandLine As String        strDBName = "C:\My Documents\ClientMasterUpdate.mdb"        strCommandLine = Quote(SysCmd(acSysCmdAccessDir) & _            "MSACCESS.EXE") & " " & Quote(strDBName )        dbl_D = Shell(strCommandLine, vbNormalFocus)        Application.Quit acQuitSaveNone ' closes the *current* databaseEnd SubFunction Quote(aString) As String    Quote = """" & aString & """"End FunctionHTHLambert-----Original Message-----From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gary J. GieverSent: Wednesday, November 15, 2006 10:41 AMTo: accessd at databaseadvisors.comSubject: 
[AccessD] Open a databaseThis is frustrating.  All I want to do is open another database from thecurrently open database.  The code is like the help examples:Dim dbMyDB As DatabaseDim strDBName As StringstrDBName = "C:\My Documents\ClientMasterUpdate.mdb"Set dbMyDB = DBEngine.Workspaces(0).OpenDatabase(strDBName)But nothing happens.  What am I missing?Gary J. Giever, M.A.Applications DeveloperACCMHS_______________________________________________No banners. No pop-ups. No kidding.Make My Way  your home on the Web - http://www.myway.com-- AccessD mailing listAccessD at databaseadvisors.comhttp://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessdWebsite: http://www.databaseadvisors.com-- AccessD mailing listAccessD at databaseadvisors.comhttp://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessdWebsite: http://www.databaseadvisors.com

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From Chester_Kaup at kindermorgan.com  Wed Nov 15 12:42:36 2006
From: Chester_Kaup at kindermorgan.com (Kaup, Chester)
Date: Wed, 15 Nov 2006 12:42:36 -0600
Subject: [AccessD] Carry Forward in a query
In-Reply-To: <BAY127-F388AEC4E6ECD50CC860A45D2EA0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <F1DD538AE6BCE74EBE562DE51564D322022964B8@houexch1.kindermorgan.com>

A fellow employee who does not write code asked if it could be done. I
am thinking not or certainly not the best way or practical way to go
about doing it. 

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Mark A Matte
Sent: Wednesday, November 15, 2006 11:11 AM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Carry Forward in a query

Chester,

Just out of curiosity...why does it have to be a query and not
code?...and 
in this scenario could call a custom function from the query?

Just curious,

Mark A. Matte


>From: "Kaup, Chester" <Chester_Kaup at kindermorgan.com>
>Reply-To: Access Developers discussion and problem 
>solving<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
>To: "Access Developers discussion and problem 
>solving"<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
>Subject: Re: [AccessD] Carry Forward in a query
>Date: Tue, 14 Nov 2006 16:40:39 -0600
>
>Here is what I have now. One table with dates and one table like below.
>Query SQL as below. This works great.
>
>SELECT T_PriceCurrent.SDate,
>(Select Price from T_PriceIndex as T1 where T1.SDate=(Select Max(SDate)
>from T_PriceIndex AS T2 where T2.SDate<=T_PriceCurrent.SDate))
>AS PriceCurrent
>FROM T_PriceCurrent;
>
>SDate		Price
>1/1/2005	8.56
>1/23/2005	8.73
>2/14/2005	8.40
>3/1/2005	8.00
>3/12/2005	8.45
>3/27/2005	8.95
>4/7/2005	8.12
>4/30/2005	7.95
>5/14/2005	8.03
>5/27/2005	8.24
>6/10/2005	9.03
>6/25/2005	9.17
>7/3/2005	9.25
>7/27/2005	9.40
>8/3/2005	9.64
>
>What I cannot figure how to do is make it work if table looks like
>below. I need output for each Pattern.
>Pattern	SDate	Price
>1	1/1/2005	8.56
>1	1/23/2005	8.73
>1	2/14/2005	8.40
>1	3/1/2005	8.00
>1	3/12/2005	8.45
>1	3/27/2005	8.95
>1	4/7/2005	8.12
>1	4/30/2005	7.95
>1	5/14/2005	8.03
>1	5/27/2005	8.24
>1	6/10/2005	9.03
>1	6/25/2005	9.17
>1	7/3/2005	9.25
>1	7/27/2005	9.40
>1	8/3/2005	9.64
>2	1/7/2005	8.27
>2	1/24/2005	8.71
>2	2/13/2005	8.35
>2	3/2/2005	8.02
>2	3/13/2005	8.44
>2	3/28/2005	8.93
>2	4/6/2005	8.10
>2	4/28/2005	7.98
>2	5/15/2005	8.05
>2	5/25/2005	8.20
>2	6/9/2005	9.00
>2	6/20/2005	9.15
>2	7/1/2005	9.23
>2	7/25/2005	9.35
>2	8/4/2005	9.65
>2	8/15/2005	9.50
>
>Thanks for any ideas.
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Hale, Jim
>Sent: Tuesday, November 14, 2006 3:59 PM
>To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
>Subject: Re: [AccessD] Carry Forward in a query
>
>If I understand what you want to do, I have done this with a non
>cartesian
>join. I create a table with a one field record and  one record for each
>date. In the query window I place this table and the table with the
>record
>you want to duplicate WITHOUT ANY JOIN. the resulting data set produces
>one
>record for each date. HTH
>Jim Hale
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Kaup, Chester [mailto:Chester_Kaup at kindermorgan.com]
>Sent: Tuesday, November 14, 2006 3:13 PM
>To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
>Subject: [AccessD] Carry Forward in a query
>
>
>I have a table of data that has a record about every 6 months. I would
>like to generate a record for every month using the previous months
data
>until there is data for the current records month. I can do this in
code
>but had a coworker ask if it could be done in a query. I am not coming
>up with an answer. Your thoughts please.
>
>
>
>Chester Kaup
>
>Engineering Technician
>
>Kinder Morgan CO2 Company, LLP
>
>Office (432) 688-3797
>
>FAX (432) 688-3799
>
>
>
>
>
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>number of electrons were terribly inconvenienced.
>
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From bheid at appdevgrp.com  Wed Nov 15 13:27:51 2006
From: bheid at appdevgrp.com (Bobby Heid)
Date: Wed, 15 Nov 2006 14:27:51 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Carry Forward in a query
In-Reply-To: <916187228923D311A6FE00A0CC3FAA30E6FC82@ADGSERVER>
Message-ID: <916187228923D311A6FE00A0CC3FAA30D35AB9@ADGSERVER>

It can in SQL Server according to this article:
http://builder.com.com/5100-6388_14-6132748.html?tag=nl.e601

Not sure if it can be done in Access.

Bobby

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Kaup, Chester
Sent: Wednesday, November 15, 2006 1:43 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Carry Forward in a query


A fellow employee who does not write code asked if it could be done. I
am thinking not or certainly not the best way or practical way to go
about doing it. 

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Mark A Matte
Sent: Wednesday, November 15, 2006 11:11 AM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Carry Forward in a query

Chester,

Just out of curiosity...why does it have to be a query and not
code?...and 
in this scenario could call a custom function from the query?

Just curious,

Mark A. Matte


>From: "Kaup, Chester" <Chester_Kaup at kindermorgan.com>
>Reply-To: Access Developers discussion and problem 
>solving<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
>To: "Access Developers discussion and problem 
>solving"<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
>Subject: Re: [AccessD] Carry Forward in a query
>Date: Tue, 14 Nov 2006 16:40:39 -0600
>
>Here is what I have now. One table with dates and one table like below.
>Query SQL as below. This works great.
>
>SELECT T_PriceCurrent.SDate,
>(Select Price from T_PriceIndex as T1 where T1.SDate=(Select Max(SDate)
>from T_PriceIndex AS T2 where T2.SDate<=T_PriceCurrent.SDate))
>AS PriceCurrent
>FROM T_PriceCurrent;
>
>SDate		Price
>1/1/2005	8.56
>1/23/2005	8.73
>2/14/2005	8.40
>3/1/2005	8.00
>3/12/2005	8.45
>3/27/2005	8.95
>4/7/2005	8.12
>4/30/2005	7.95
>5/14/2005	8.03
>5/27/2005	8.24
>6/10/2005	9.03
>6/25/2005	9.17
>7/3/2005	9.25
>7/27/2005	9.40
>8/3/2005	9.64
>
>What I cannot figure how to do is make it work if table looks like
>below. I need output for each Pattern.
>Pattern	SDate	Price
>1	1/1/2005	8.56
>1	1/23/2005	8.73
>1	2/14/2005	8.40
>1	3/1/2005	8.00
>1	3/12/2005	8.45
>1	3/27/2005	8.95
>1	4/7/2005	8.12
>1	4/30/2005	7.95
>1	5/14/2005	8.03
>1	5/27/2005	8.24
>1	6/10/2005	9.03
>1	6/25/2005	9.17
>1	7/3/2005	9.25
>1	7/27/2005	9.40
>1	8/3/2005	9.64
>2	1/7/2005	8.27
>2	1/24/2005	8.71
>2	2/13/2005	8.35
>2	3/2/2005	8.02
>2	3/13/2005	8.44
>2	3/28/2005	8.93
>2	4/6/2005	8.10
>2	4/28/2005	7.98
>2	5/15/2005	8.05
>2	5/25/2005	8.20
>2	6/9/2005	9.00
>2	6/20/2005	9.15
>2	7/1/2005	9.23
>2	7/25/2005	9.35
>2	8/4/2005	9.65
>2	8/15/2005	9.50
>
>Thanks for any ideas.
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Hale, Jim
>Sent: Tuesday, November 14, 2006 3:59 PM
>To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
>Subject: Re: [AccessD] Carry Forward in a query
>
>If I understand what you want to do, I have done this with a non
>cartesian
>join. I create a table with a one field record and  one record for each
>date. In the query window I place this table and the table with the
>record
>you want to duplicate WITHOUT ANY JOIN. the resulting data set produces
>one
>record for each date. HTH
>Jim Hale
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Kaup, Chester [mailto:Chester_Kaup at kindermorgan.com]
>Sent: Tuesday, November 14, 2006 3:13 PM
>To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
>Subject: [AccessD] Carry Forward in a query
>
>
>I have a table of data that has a record about every 6 months. I would
>like to generate a record for every month using the previous months
data
>until there is data for the current records month. I can do this in
code
>but had a coworker ask if it could be done in a query. I am not coming
>up with an answer. Your thoughts please.
>
>
>
>Chester Kaup
>
>Engineering Technician
>
>Kinder Morgan CO2 Company, LLP
>
>Office (432) 688-3797
>
>FAX (432) 688-3799
>
>
>
>
>
>No trees were killed in the sending of this message. However a large
>number of electrons were terribly inconvenienced.
>
>
>
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From accessd at shaw.ca  Wed Nov 15 13:20:47 2006
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Wed, 15 Nov 2006 11:20:47 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] ATA airport list for the DBA list
In-Reply-To: <003201c7079d$33481390$39b82ad1@SUSANONE>
Message-ID: <0J8S00MU4DOCTEF0@l-daemon>

Hi Susan:

I finally figured out what the problem is... If the reading area of the
Browser is less than 640px then the image shifts. Having a screen surface of
1280px, I was blissfully unaware of any issues. I have now reduced the image
to 500px. (Please note: That the DBA web site access log shows no viewers
with screen width of 640px, have viewed the site in a couple of years. The
smallest shown is a width of 1024px.)

I have also removed the insignias from the plane fuselage.

Regards
Jim 

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Susan Harkins
Sent: Monday, November 13, 2006 7:30 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: Re: [AccessD] ATA airport list for the DBA list

Thanks Jim, but what's the big white overlay block just above the airplane?
Is something supposed to be there? 

Susan H. 

Hi All:

Please find on the front page of the DBA web site
(http://www.databaseadvisors.com) access to the ATA airport list as provided
by Art Fuller... Thank you very much Arthur.

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From pedro at plex.nl  Wed Nov 15 13:46:06 2006
From: pedro at plex.nl (Pedro Janssen)
Date: Wed, 15 Nov 2006 20:46:06 +0100
Subject: [AccessD] create cascade combobox
Message-ID: <000a01c708ee$b0cd6d40$4001a8c0@qmotionfaa3ad9>

Hello Group, 

i downloaded the create cascade combobox from Candace trip's database. I can't figure out how to store the data from the cascade selection into a headtable.

I have a headtable in which some records are from lookup table (sub).
I use the subtable to create the cascade comboboxes.
How can i store the data in the headtable?

Thanks

Pedro Janssen

From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com  Wed Nov 15 14:03:42 2006
From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (JWColby)
Date: Wed, 15 Nov 2006 15:03:42 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] 3DFTP API
Message-ID: <003a01c708f1$26ab4e90$e1265b05@m6805>

For anyone using 3DFTP (and I recommend it highly) and need to program to
it, I am building a class that encapsulates all of the methods of the API.
The API works against some unknown thing (the EXE itself I believe).  The
result of which is that late binding is not supported, all you can do is dim
an object, then Create() the instance of 3DFTP.  This means that
intellisense is not available.  For this and other reasons I am building a
class that essentially encapsulates  the coding examples (corrected to
actually work) from the PDF help file.
 
If you want it the class, let me know (offline).  The API is free from their
site and the program is dirt cheap.  I am working on stuff that has to FTP
files up/down and 3dFTP is a very solid tool for this.
 
John W. Colby
Colby Consulting
www.ColbyConsulting.com
 


From Jdemarco at hudsonhealthplan.org  Wed Nov 15 14:07:40 2006
From: Jdemarco at hudsonhealthplan.org (Jim DeMarco)
Date: Wed, 15 Nov 2006 15:07:40 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] OT: Moving Web Server
Message-ID: <0B8880A20E2CF24280FA60901E108FB0243B@TTNEXCHSVR.hshhp.com>

List,

Sorry for the OT but our tech staff is forcing a move of our Intranet
server to a new server machine ASAP.  Current server Windows 2000, new
machine Windows 2003 Server.

Having never lived through a move of this type I'd like to ask you all:
How do we move all of our IIS settings (virtual folders, etc.) to the
new machine?  Are there tools or scripts that we can use to do this?

We've got a number of ASP classic as well as some .NET applications on
the current box that I'm concerned about reconfiguring.

Has anyone done this?  I'd love to hear about what planning I'm going to
need to do in advance and what issues you may have had to overcome.

TIA,

Jim DeMarco
Director of Application Development
Hudson Health Plan
Tarrytown, NY



From Jim.Hale at FleetPride.com  Wed Nov 15 15:09:15 2006
From: Jim.Hale at FleetPride.com (Hale, Jim)
Date: Wed, 15 Nov 2006 15:09:15 -0600
Subject: [AccessD] ATA airport list for the DBA list
Message-ID: <6A6AA9DF57E4F046BDA1E273BDDB67727DE111@corp-es01.fleetpride.com>

Wow you are sure accomodating. At least no one complained it was a Boeing
instead of Airbus ;-)
Jim Hale

-----Original Message-----
From: Jim Lawrence [mailto:accessd at shaw.ca]
Sent: Wednesday, November 15, 2006 1:21 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: Re: [AccessD] ATA airport list for the DBA list


Hi Susan:

I finally figured out what the problem is... If the reading area of the
Browser is less than 640px then the image shifts. Having a screen surface of
1280px, I was blissfully unaware of any issues. I have now reduced the image
to 500px. (Please note: That the DBA web site access log shows no viewers
with screen width of 640px, have viewed the site in a couple of years. The
smallest shown is a width of 1024px.)

I have also removed the insignias from the plane fuselage.

Regards
Jim 

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Susan Harkins
Sent: Monday, November 13, 2006 7:30 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: Re: [AccessD] ATA airport list for the DBA list

Thanks Jim, but what's the big white overlay block just above the airplane?
Is something supposed to be there? 

Susan H. 

Hi All:

Please find on the front page of the DBA web site
(http://www.databaseadvisors.com) access to the ATA airport list as provided
by Art Fuller... Thank you very much Arthur.

Regards

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From martyconnelly at shaw.ca  Wed Nov 15 15:27:03 2006
From: martyconnelly at shaw.ca (MartyConnelly)
Date: Wed, 15 Nov 2006 13:27:03 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] Useful Lists
In-Reply-To: <200611151630.kAFGU6q12304@databaseadvisors.com>
References: <mailman.14885.1163600827.17650.accessd@databaseadvisors.com>
	<200611151630.kAFGU6q12304@databaseadvisors.com>
Message-ID: <455B8627.6040001@shaw.ca>

I tried another free web service and got the same result from 
http://www.xmethods.net
So I guess you get what you pay for like a half hour delay on stock and 
commodity quotes.
I have seen bond service quotes handled via soap and they cost $1000 a 
month.
Even Lat Longs of a zip code centroid may not fall within the zip code
if a center of gravity calculation method is used on a concave polygon.

http://www.mindreef.net/tide/scopeit/start.do?referer=xmethods&url=http://www.tilisoft.com/ws/LocInfo/ZipCode.asmx?WSDL

Robert L. Stewart wrote:

>Oh Well,
>
>I tried their postal code web service for the USA.
>Mine is 77418.  The area code changed over 5 years
>ago from 409 to 979.  Their service is still returning
>409 as the area code.
>
>Are they maintaining the data?  If not, what use is
>a bad list of data?
>
>I am willing to host the databases in SQL Server for
>all to connect to for the data.  As long as we all
>behave and keep the list up to date as well as not
>put junk into them.  I have a couple, like the postal
>code list, some of the ISO standards lists for country
>codes, SIC and NAICS code, and so on that I can start
>it with it any one else is interested.  I also have some
>of the TIGER data tables for the USA.
>
>Robert
>
>At 08:27 AM 11/15/2006, you wrote:
>  
>
>>Date: Tue, 14 Nov 2006 21:08:15 -0800
>>From: MartyConnelly <martyconnelly at shaw.ca>
>>Subject: Re: [AccessD] Useful Lists
>>To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
>>        <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
>>Message-ID: <455AA0BF.7050407 at shaw.ca>
>>Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed
>>
>>In addition to lists there are public web services that provide things like
>>those listed below from places like
>>http://www.webservicex.net/WS/default.aspx
>>    
>>
>
>
>  
>

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Victoria, B.C.
Canada



From lembit.dbamail at t-online.de  Wed Nov 15 15:27:40 2006
From: lembit.dbamail at t-online.de (Lembit Soobik)
Date: Wed, 15 Nov 2006 22:27:40 +0100
Subject: [AccessD] XP-mde on A2003?
References: <mailman.14025.1163521322.17650.accessd@databaseadvisors.com><200611141636.kAEGaAq01765@databaseadvisors.com>
	<001a01c70819$6d7187f0$1800a8c0@s1800>
Message-ID: <001e01c708fc$e13fbce0$1800a8c0@s1800>

it worked

Access 2002 - MDE runs under Access 2003

Lembit

----- Original Message ----- 
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Sent: Tuesday, November 14, 2006 7:19 PM
Subject: Re: [AccessD] XP-mde on A2003?


> Thanks everyone for answering.
> I have made a little A2002 MDE and sent him.
> will let you all know.
>
> Lembit
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Robert L. Stewart" <rl_stewart at highstream.net>
> To: <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
> Cc: <lembit.dbamail at t-online.de>
> Sent: Tuesday, November 14, 2006 5:32 PM
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] XP-mde on A2003?
>
>
>> Lembit,
>>
>> The simple answer is yes, he can run it.
>>
>> Robert
>>
>> At 10:22 AM 11/14/2006, you wrote:
>>>From: Lembit Soobik [mailto:lembit.dbamail at t-online.de]
>>>Sent: Saturday, November 11, 2006 12:23 PM
>>>To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
>>>Subject: [AccessD] XP-mde on A2003?
>>>
>>>Hi everyone,
>>>I have been asked to write an Access db for a friend.
>>>I have Access-XP (2002) on my machine
>>>he has Access 2003
>>>
>>>can he run an mde from me on his machine?
>>>
>>>thank you
>>>Lembit
>>
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From accessd at shaw.ca  Wed Nov 15 15:33:17 2006
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Wed, 15 Nov 2006 13:33:17 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] OT: Moving Web Server
In-Reply-To: <0B8880A20E2CF24280FA60901E108FB0243B@TTNEXCHSVR.hshhp.com>
Message-ID: <0J8S00M6YJT6N4A0@l-daemon>

Hi Jim:

There are some tools out there. When I moved our server it was recommended
that we use one of the free (open-source) products. It did not work so I
spent a number of hours migrating everything manually. One product you can
try is from http://www.adsonline.co.uk/IISExport/.

I would suspect that most of the basic items will move without issue but the
extended items will need some tweaking and manual intervention. 

Even if you have to do parts manually it should not take too long. I moved
70 plus clients' design sites in a couple of hours.

If you need any help you can contact me OL.
 
HTH
Jim

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim DeMarco
Sent: Wednesday, November 15, 2006 12:08 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: [AccessD] OT: Moving Web Server

List,

Sorry for the OT but our tech staff is forcing a move of our Intranet
server to a new server machine ASAP.  Current server Windows 2000, new
machine Windows 2003 Server.

Having never lived through a move of this type I'd like to ask you all:
How do we move all of our IIS settings (virtual folders, etc.) to the
new machine?  Are there tools or scripts that we can use to do this?

We've got a number of ASP classic as well as some .NET applications on
the current box that I'm concerned about reconfiguring.

Has anyone done this?  I'd love to hear about what planning I'm going to
need to do in advance and what issues you may have had to overcome.

TIA,

Jim DeMarco
Director of Application Development
Hudson Health Plan
Tarrytown, NY

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From DWUTKA at marlow.com  Wed Nov 15 17:29:29 2006
From: DWUTKA at marlow.com (DWUTKA at marlow.com)
Date: Wed, 15 Nov 2006 17:29:29 -0600
Subject: [AccessD] OT: Moving Web Server
Message-ID: <17724746D360394AA3BFE5B8D40A9C1B014B1666@MARLOW_MAIN2.marlow.com>

I had to look into this a few years ago, going from a 2000 server to a 2000
server.  Our original Intranet was just a file server, not even using an web
server.  I built a 'new' intranet on my workstation, and hosted it there for
the first several months, as it grew into a function intranet.  After it had
grown it's own wings, we moved it to it's own server.......  at that time
(I'd say it was 2002), there were very few utilities to 'move' a webserver
from one box to another.

That may have changed with 2003.  I ended up just doing it manually.  That
allowed me to also clean up some of the mess from the initial creation, and
organize it a little better.

One possibility would be to use Frontpage to 'copy' the website (I know FP
2003 can do this, never tried with previous versions.....and I don't know if
it will setup all the subwebs or not...)

Drew

-----Original Message-----
From: Jim DeMarco [mailto:Jdemarco at hudsonhealthplan.org] 
Sent: Wednesday, November 15, 2006 2:08 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: [AccessD] OT: Moving Web Server

List,

Sorry for the OT but our tech staff is forcing a move of our Intranet
server to a new server machine ASAP.  Current server Windows 2000, new
machine Windows 2003 Server.

Having never lived through a move of this type I'd like to ask you all:
How do we move all of our IIS settings (virtual folders, etc.) to the
new machine?  Are there tools or scripts that we can use to do this?

We've got a number of ASP classic as well as some .NET applications on
the current box that I'm concerned about reconfiguring.

Has anyone done this?  I'd love to hear about what planning I'm going to
need to do in advance and what issues you may have had to overcome.

TIA,

Jim DeMarco
Director of Application Development
Hudson Health Plan
Tarrytown, NY

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From john at winhaven.net  Wed Nov 15 18:29:26 2006
From: john at winhaven.net (John Bartow)
Date: Wed, 15 Nov 2006 18:29:26 -0600
Subject: [AccessD] XP-mde on A2003?
In-Reply-To: <001e01c708fc$e13fbce0$1800a8c0@s1800>
Message-ID: <200611160029.kAG0TPq14754@databaseadvisors.com>

Lembit,
Thanks for the followup.

John B.

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Lembit Soobik
Sent: Wednesday, November 15, 2006 3:28 PM

it worked

Access 2002 - MDE runs under Access 2003




From john at winhaven.net  Wed Nov 15 18:29:26 2006
From: john at winhaven.net (John Bartow)
Date: Wed, 15 Nov 2006 18:29:26 -0600
Subject: [AccessD] OT: Moving Web Server
In-Reply-To: <17724746D360394AA3BFE5B8D40A9C1B014B1666@MARLOW_MAIN2.marlow.com>
Message-ID: <200611160029.kAG0TSq14783@databaseadvisors.com>

That's a good idea. FP 2k3 can do all the subnets (there's a switch in the
settings for that purpose). It would probably need some tweaking but I would
think the majority of the work would be accomplished for you.

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of DWUTKA at marlow.com
Sent: Wednesday, November 15, 2006 5:29 PM

One possibility would be to use Frontpage to 'copy' the website (I know FP
2003 can do this, never tried with previous versions.....and I don't know if
it will setup all the subwebs or not...)



From artful at rogers.com  Wed Nov 15 19:10:49 2006
From: artful at rogers.com (artful at rogers.com)
Date: Wed, 15 Nov 2006 17:10:49 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [AccessD] Useful Lists
Message-ID: <20061116011049.61581.qmail@web88214.mail.re2.yahoo.com>

>> If not, what use is a bad list of data?

It might disorient terrorists. 





From adtp at airtelbroadband.in  Wed Nov 15 23:06:06 2006
From: adtp at airtelbroadband.in (A.D.TEJPAL)
Date: Thu, 16 Nov 2006 10:36:06 +0530
Subject: [AccessD] Copy a record in a table
References: <002601c708c3$7735adc0$6401a8c0@HAL9005>
Message-ID: <004901c7093d$063dd8c0$8808177d@pcadt>

Rocky,

    Both the sub-routines work directly upon the table in question. There is no dependence upon any form or its recordset. You have only to supply the name of table, name of primary key field and PK value of target record (desired to be copied).

    As suggested earlier, the procedure as per (B) should be preferred as it is far more efficient. It does not require opening of the table. Even a recordset is not required to be opened.

    Note - Sub-routine (A), though not the optimum alternative, had been given merely to demonstrate a direct rough & ready approach as  demanded by you.

Best wishes,
A.D.Tejpal
---------------

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Beach Access Software 
  To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' 
  Sent: Wednesday, November 15, 2006 20:06
  Subject: Re: [AccessD] Copy a record in a table


  A.D.:

  Thanks for those routines.  A looks like it will work only if the recordset is bound to the form? And then will copy the current record? Or will it work on any table even if it is not the record source?  

  I'm not familiar with all those commands but I'll look them up in Help.

  Thanks again fro your response.

  Best,

  Rocky


  -----Original Message-----
  From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
  [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of A.D.TEJPAL
  Sent: Tuesday, November 14, 2006 11:32 PM
  To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
  Subject: Re: [AccessD] Copy a record in a table

  Rocky,

      Apparently, you are looking for a straightforward method to copy an existing record to new record in the same table, without having to  bother with individual field names. It is presumed that the table has autonumber type primary key.

      Use of an insert statement with wild card for field names looks tempting and deceptively simple. However, it gets ruled out as the action would attempt to create a duplicate value in primary key field.

      A rough & ready method involves copying of desired record to clipboard and then pasting it on to the new record. This works smoothly, without attracting any error on a/c of attempted duplication of primary key value. Instead, correct autoonumber gets automatically  assigned to the newly pasted record, over-ruling the PK value in clipboard. Sample sub-routine named P_CopyRecordToNew(), as given at (A) below, demonstrates this approach.

      For ready reference, sample sub-routine P_InsertRecordCopy(), as given at (B) below, represents a more formal approach for accomplishing the same task.

      Once you put these subs in a general module, invoking the one at (B) should be equally convenient as the one at (A). Eventually, you might prefer the one at (B).

  Best wishes,
  A.D.Tejpal
  ---------------

  A) Copy existing record to new record in same table
       (Rough & Ready method)
  ==================================
  Sub P_CopyRecordToNew(ByVal TableName _
                      As String, ByVal PkName As String, _
                      ByVal PkNum As Long)
      DoCmd.OpenTable TableName
      DoCmd.GoToControl PkName
      DoCmd.FindRecord PkNum
      DoCmd.RunCommand acCmdSelectRecord
      DoCmd.RunCommand acCmdCopy
      DoCmd.GoToRecord , , acNewRec
      DoCmd.RunCommand acCmdPaste
      DoCmd.Close acTable, TableName, acSaveYes
  End Sub
  ==================================

  B) Copy existing record to new record in same table
       (Formal method)
  ==================================
  Sub P_InsertRecordCopy(ByVal TableName _
                      As String, ByVal PkName As String, _
                      ByVal PkNum As Long)
      Dim Qst As String, FieldList As String
      Dim fd As Field
      Dim db As DAO.Database
      
      Set db = DBEngine(0)(0)
      FieldList = ""
      For Each fd In db.TableDefs(TableName).Fields
          If fd.Name <> PkName Then
              FieldList = FieldList & _
                              IIf(Len(FieldList) > 0, _
                              ", ", "") & fd.Name
          End If
      Next
      
      Qst = "Insert Into " & TableName & " (" & _
              FieldList & ") Select " & FieldList & _
              " From " & TableName & " Where " & _
              PkName & " = " & PkNum & ";"
      db.Execute Qst, dbFailOnError
      
      Set fd = Nothing
      Set db = Nothing
  End Sub
  ==================================

    ----- Original Message ----- 
    From: Beach Access Software 
    To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' 
    Sent: Wednesday, November 15, 2006 06:41
    Subject: [AccessD] Copy a record in a table

    Dear List: 

    Is there a quick or slick or elegant way to copy a record in a table to a new record in the same table - just duplicating a record 

    I've done it using DAO and cycling through the fields and creating the new record and adding it but that seems awfully crude.  

    MTIA 

    Rocky

From prodevmg at yahoo.com  Wed Nov 15 23:15:37 2006
From: prodevmg at yahoo.com (Lonnie Johnson)
Date: Wed, 15 Nov 2006 21:15:37 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [AccessD] Control which record shows at top of subform
Message-ID: <20061116051537.51786.qmail@web33108.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Thanks guys. The user now just wants to filter the records that are need to show in the subform instead of trying to navigate to them. This is simpler and much easier. Thank anyway.
 








May God bless you beyond your imagination!
Lonnie Johnson
ProDev, Professional Development of MS Access Databases
Visit me at ==> http://www.prodev.us






 



----- Original Message ----
From: Reuben Cummings <reuben at gfconsultants.com>
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Wednesday, November 15, 2006 9:54:05 AM
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Control which record shows at top of subform


There's a difference between being at the top of the list and being "shown"
at the top of the list.

I've set up some continuous forms that upon opening highlight the line that
corresponds to today's date.  It doesn't put that line at the top of the
list, but it does "look" like it's the top of the list.  I do this by
running thru the recordset until I find the record I want and then set the
bookmark to that record and refresh the form.

If you actually want it at the top could you add a field to the table and
use it as a "marker"?  When you find what should be the first record set the
record to 0 and all the other records in this recordset = 1.  Sort ascending
and you now have the appropriate record at the top.  You could do all this
using the recordsetclone.

I have never tried the second option - it's just an idea.

Reuben Cummings
GFC, LLC
812.523.1017


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> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of JWColby
> Sent: Wednesday, November 15, 2006 10:20 AM
> To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] Control which record shows at top of subform
>
>
> The short answer is not easily.
>
> If somebody here provides a solution I too will be smiling!
>
> John W. Colby
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> www.ColbyConsulting.com
>
> -----Original Message-----
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> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Lonnie Johnson
> Sent: Wednesday, November 15, 2006 9:09 AM
> To: AccessD solving'
> Subject: [AccessD] Control which record shows at top of subform
>
> I have a subform and have buttons that navigate to certain records.
> Sometimes when the requested record is located it appears in the middle of
> the subform.
>
> I have the subform sized to show a certain amount of records at a time and
> want the "found" record to be at the top of my list.
>
> Is this possible?
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> May God bless you beyond your imagination!
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From adtp at airtelbroadband.in  Thu Nov 16 00:12:55 2006
From: adtp at airtelbroadband.in (A.D.TEJPAL)
Date: Thu, 16 Nov 2006 11:42:55 +0530
Subject: [AccessD] Carry Forward in a query
References: <F1DD538AE6BCE74EBE562DE51564D32202246A05@houexch1.kindermorgan.
	com>
Message-ID: <001501c70946$67f30910$430b65cb@pcadt>

Chester,

    It is presumed that table T_PriceIndex too has the field named Pattern, with appropriate entries. In such a case, you could try modified SQL as follows:

SELECT T_PriceCurrent.SDate, 
(Select Price from T_PriceIndex as T1 where T1.Pattern = T_PriceCurrent.Pattern And T1.SDate=(Select Max(SDate) 
from T_PriceIndex AS T2 where T2.Pattern = T_PriceCurrent.Pattern And  T2.SDate<=T_PriceCurrent.SDate)) AS PriceCurrent
FROM T_PriceCurrent;

    Caution: Thi is AirCode - The suggested SQL has not been subjected to actual test.

Best wishes,
A.D.Tejpal
---------------

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Kaup, Chester 
  To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving 
  Sent: Wednesday, November 15, 2006 04:10
  Subject: Re: [AccessD] Carry Forward in a query


  Here is what I have now. One table with dates and one table like below.
  Query SQL as below. This works great.

  SELECT T_PriceCurrent.SDate, 
  (Select Price from T_PriceIndex as T1 where T1.SDate=(Select Max(SDate) 
  from T_PriceIndex AS T2 where T2.SDate<=T_PriceCurrent.SDate)) 
  AS PriceCurrent
  FROM T_PriceCurrent;

  SDate Price
  1/1/2005 8.56
  1/23/2005 8.73
  2/14/2005 8.40
  3/1/2005 8.00
  3/12/2005 8.45
  3/27/2005 8.95
  4/7/2005 8.12
  4/30/2005 7.95
  5/14/2005 8.03
  5/27/2005 8.24
  6/10/2005 9.03
  6/25/2005 9.17
  7/3/2005 9.25
  7/27/2005 9.40
  8/3/2005 9.64

  What I cannot figure how to do is make it work if table looks like
  below. I need output for each Pattern.
  Pattern SDate Price
  1 1/1/2005 8.56
  1 1/23/2005 8.73
  1 2/14/2005 8.40
  1 3/1/2005 8.00
  1 3/12/2005 8.45
  1 3/27/2005 8.95
  1 4/7/2005 8.12
  1 4/30/2005 7.95
  1 5/14/2005 8.03
  1 5/27/2005 8.24
  1 6/10/2005 9.03
  1 6/25/2005 9.17
  1 7/3/2005 9.25
  1 7/27/2005 9.40
  1 8/3/2005 9.64
  2 1/7/2005 8.27
  2 1/24/2005 8.71
  2 2/13/2005 8.35
  2 3/2/2005 8.02
  2 3/13/2005 8.44
  2 3/28/2005 8.93
  2 4/6/2005 8.10
  2 4/28/2005 7.98
  2 5/15/2005 8.05
  2 5/25/2005 8.20
  2 6/9/2005 9.00
  2 6/20/2005 9.15
  2 7/1/2005 9.23
  2 7/25/2005 9.35
  2 8/4/2005 9.65
  2 8/15/2005 9.50

  Thanks for any ideas.

  -----Original Message-----
  From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
  [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Hale, Jim
  Sent: Tuesday, November 14, 2006 3:59 PM
  To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
  Subject: Re: [AccessD] Carry Forward in a query

  If I understand what you want to do, I have done this with a non
  cartesian
  join. I create a table with a one field record and  one record for each
  date. In the query window I place this table and the table with the
  record
  you want to duplicate WITHOUT ANY JOIN. the resulting data set produces
  one
  record for each date. HTH
  Jim Hale

  -----Original Message-----
  From: Kaup, Chester [mailto:Chester_Kaup at kindermorgan.com]
  Sent: Tuesday, November 14, 2006 3:13 PM
  To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
  Subject: [AccessD] Carry Forward in a query

  I have a table of data that has a record about every 6 months. I would
  like to generate a record for every month using the previous months data until there is data for the current records month. I can do this in code but had a coworker ask if it could be done in a query. I am not coming up with an answer. Your thoughts please. 

  Chester Kaup


From Gustav at cactus.dk  Thu Nov 16 08:18:21 2006
From: Gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Thu, 16 Nov 2006 15:18:21 +0100
Subject: [AccessD] Copy a record in a table
Message-ID: <s55c815c.003@cactus.dk>

Hi Rocky

Thanks. 
I got the idea that using Clone for opening the second recordset would be faster:

 - from

  Set rst = dbs.OpenRecordset("Select * From " & strTable & " Where " & strId & "=" & lngId & ";")
  Set rstAdd = dbs.OpenRecordset("Select Top 1 * From " & strTable & ";")

 - to

  Set rst = dbs.OpenRecordset("Select * From " & strTable & " Where " & strId & "=" & lngId & ";")
  Set rstAdd = rst.Clone

But it isn't; it runs about 5% slower.
On my 2.2 GHz machine the function runs in less than 20 ms.

/gustav

>>> bchacc at san.rr.com 15-11-2006 15:42 >>>
G:

I'm a big DAO fan.  Do lots of little things with it.  So I love the
routine.  My approach on this one, since there were only five fields in the
table was to Dim a variable for each field, put the values in the variables,
do an .AddNew, and copy the variables into the new records fields.  That's
crude!  Yours isn't.

Best,

Rocky


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com 
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gustav Brock
Sent: Wednesday, November 15, 2006 3:03 AM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com 
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Copy a record in a table

Hi Rocky

Crude? How come? DAO is normally the fastest method to add a record to a
recordset.
Here's a basic function:

<code>

Public Function CopyRecord( _
  ByVal strTable As String, _
  ByVal strId As String, _
  ByVal lngId As Long) _
  As Boolean

  Dim dbs     As DAO.Database
  Dim rst     As DAO.Recordset
  Dim rstAdd  As DAO.Recordset
  Dim fld     As DAO.Field
  Dim strFld  As String
  
  Set dbs = CurrentDb
  Set rst = dbs.OpenRecordset("Select * From " & strTable & " Where " &
strId & "=" & lngId & ";")
  Set rstAdd = dbs.OpenRecordset("Select Top 1 * From " & strTable & ";")
  
  With rstAdd
    .AddNew
      For Each fld In rstAdd.Fields
        With fld
          strFld = .Name
          If Not strFld = strId Then
            .Value = rst.Fields(strFld).Value
          End If
        End With
      Next
    .Update
    .Close
  End With
  rst.Close
  
  Set fld = Nothing
  Set rstAdd = Nothing
  Set rst = Nothing
  Set dbs = Nothing
  
End Function

</code>

Of course, you will need to refine this for compound indices, other unique
indices, OLE fields, default values etc. Also add error handling.

/gustav

>>> bchacc at san.rr.com 15-11-2006 02:11 >>>

Dear List:

Is there a quick or slick or elegant way to copy a record in a table to a
new record in the same table - just duplicating a record  

I've done it using DAO and cycling through the fields and creating the new
record and adding it but that seems awfully crude. 

MTIA
Rocky



From Jdemarco at hudsonhealthplan.org  Thu Nov 16 08:26:37 2006
From: Jdemarco at hudsonhealthplan.org (Jim DeMarco)
Date: Thu, 16 Nov 2006 09:26:37 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] OT: Moving Web Server
Message-ID: <0B8880A20E2CF24280FA60901E108FB0245A@TTNEXCHSVR.hshhp.com>

Thanks Drew and Jim.  I'll look into both of those options.  I wonder if
Dreamweaver will move sites too (I know we have copies of that here). 


Jim

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of
DWUTKA at marlow.com
Sent: Wednesday, November 15, 2006 6:29 PM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: Re: [AccessD] OT: Moving Web Server

I had to look into this a few years ago, going from a 2000 server to a
2000 server.  Our original Intranet was just a file server, not even
using an web server.  I built a 'new' intranet on my workstation, and
hosted it there for the first several months, as it grew into a function
intranet.  After it had grown it's own wings, we moved it to it's own
server.......  at that time (I'd say it was 2002), there were very few
utilities to 'move' a webserver from one box to another.

That may have changed with 2003.  I ended up just doing it manually.
That allowed me to also clean up some of the mess from the initial
creation, and organize it a little better.

One possibility would be to use Frontpage to 'copy' the website (I know
FP
2003 can do this, never tried with previous versions.....and I don't
know if it will setup all the subwebs or not...)

Drew

-----Original Message-----
From: Jim DeMarco [mailto:Jdemarco at hudsonhealthplan.org]
Sent: Wednesday, November 15, 2006 2:08 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: [AccessD] OT: Moving Web Server

List,

Sorry for the OT but our tech staff is forcing a move of our Intranet
server to a new server machine ASAP.  Current server Windows 2000, new
machine Windows 2003 Server.

Having never lived through a move of this type I'd like to ask you all:
How do we move all of our IIS settings (virtual folders, etc.) to the
new machine?  Are there tools or scripts that we can use to do this?

We've got a number of ASP classic as well as some .NET applications on
the current box that I'm concerned about reconfiguring.

Has anyone done this?  I'd love to hear about what planning I'm going to
need to do in advance and what issues you may have had to overcome.

TIA,

Jim DeMarco
Director of Application Development
Hudson Health Plan
Tarrytown, NY

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From GregSmith at starband.net  Thu Nov 16 09:46:02 2006
From: GregSmith at starband.net (Greg Smith)
Date: Thu, 16 Nov 2006 09:46:02 -0600 (CST)
Subject: [AccessD]  Parsing XML as a string?
In-Reply-To: <001501c70946$67f30910$430b65cb@pcadt>
References: <001501c70946$67f30910$430b65cb@pcadt>
Message-ID: <37260.65.118.249.214.1163691962.squirrel@cetus.email.starband.net>

Hi everyone!

Ok...I admit that trying to import that XML file I had directly into
Access may have SEEMED like a good, "easy", idea...at the time...but after
looking around and from the comments here, the idea was...well..it sucked.
 If the XML they were sending to me were compatible then I might have had
a chance...but it's just not feasible.  There actually wasn't any way to
define it using a dtd/xls/xlst within my lifetime, so I'm going to have to
use a different approach.

The files they send as XML are not that large, so I could easily import
them as text, separate out what I need and put it into the required
tables.  However, since they send it as a single string, it becomes harder
to parse it since there are multiple duplicated 'keys' that I need to pull
from it.  And they're not necessarily in the same position all of the
time.

I could import it as a single string into a memo field, but I can't figure
out how to disect a memo field string like that.

When I import it as text, I could break it down at the "<" characters,
importing each one into a separate columns, but I need them in rows, not
columns, to search and find the strings of data I need.

So, in summary, my only two choices (that I can think of) are:

1.  Import the XML as a single string into a memo and somehow parse that
into the data I need.
2.  Import the XML as text, separating it on the "<" characters into
columns, then somehow magically (transpose columns into rows?) transform
that to usable information.

ANY suggestions, short of retirement (although not a bad idea...), would
be GREATLY apprecaited!

Thanks!

Greg Smith





From cfoust at infostatsystems.com  Thu Nov 16 10:30:21 2006
From: cfoust at infostatsystems.com (Charlotte Foust)
Date: Thu, 16 Nov 2006 08:30:21 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] Parsing XML as a string?
In-Reply-To: <37260.65.118.249.214.1163691962.squirrel@cetus.email.starband.net>
Message-ID: <F55048AF7E974F429BB24597D7355EEA178444@INFOSERVER04.infostat.local>

Remind me what version of Access you're using.  ADO is capable to
handling xml files, but you need to have a good idea of the structure
involved.  The line breaks don't really count in an xml file, they're
there for human use.  Can you look at the file in an xml parser?

Charlotte Foust 

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Greg Smith
Sent: Thursday, November 16, 2006 7:46 AM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [AccessD] Parsing XML as a string?

Hi everyone!

Ok...I admit that trying to import that XML file I had directly into
Access may have SEEMED like a good, "easy", idea...at the time...but
after looking around and from the comments here, the idea was...well..it
sucked.
 If the XML they were sending to me were compatible then I might have
had a chance...but it's just not feasible.  There actually wasn't any
way to define it using a dtd/xls/xlst within my lifetime, so I'm going
to have to use a different approach.

The files they send as XML are not that large, so I could easily import
them as text, separate out what I need and put it into the required
tables.  However, since they send it as a single string, it becomes
harder to parse it since there are multiple duplicated 'keys' that I
need to pull from it.  And they're not necessarily in the same position
all of the time.

I could import it as a single string into a memo field, but I can't
figure out how to disect a memo field string like that.

When I import it as text, I could break it down at the "<" characters,
importing each one into a separate columns, but I need them in rows, not
columns, to search and find the strings of data I need.

So, in summary, my only two choices (that I can think of) are:

1.  Import the XML as a single string into a memo and somehow parse that
into the data I need.
2.  Import the XML as text, separating it on the "<" characters into
columns, then somehow magically (transpose columns into rows?) transform
that to usable information.

ANY suggestions, short of retirement (although not a bad idea...), would
be GREATLY apprecaited!

Thanks!

Greg Smith



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From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com  Thu Nov 16 10:32:41 2006
From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (JWColby)
Date: Thu, 16 Nov 2006 11:32:41 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Parsing XML as a string?
In-Reply-To: <37260.65.118.249.214.1163691962.squirrel@cetus.email.starband.net>
Message-ID: <006b01c7099c$d689c610$e1265b05@m6805>

Not having followed the original thread... 

It sounds like a good place for a pair of classes.  One class would hold
each "snippet" based on the < characters.  A parent class would break down
the string into these snippets, load them into the snippet classes and hold
the snippet classes in a collection.  Once the huge string is parsed into
snippets, the parent class can process them by iterating the collection of
snippets doing whatever was required for each snippet.

Once you have processed the snippets, you can write the results out to a
table.

That is obviously a "big picture".

Can you paste a sample of the xml into an email so that I can see it.
Sorry, I wasn't following the original discussion.

John W. Colby
Colby Consulting
www.ColbyConsulting.com

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Greg Smith
Sent: Thursday, November 16, 2006 10:46 AM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [AccessD] Parsing XML as a string?

Hi everyone!

Ok...I admit that trying to import that XML file I had directly into Access
may have SEEMED like a good, "easy", idea...at the time...but after looking
around and from the comments here, the idea was...well..it sucked.
 If the XML they were sending to me were compatible then I might have had a
chance...but it's just not feasible.  There actually wasn't any way to
define it using a dtd/xls/xlst within my lifetime, so I'm going to have to
use a different approach.

The files they send as XML are not that large, so I could easily import them
as text, separate out what I need and put it into the required tables.
However, since they send it as a single string, it becomes harder to parse
it since there are multiple duplicated 'keys' that I need to pull from it.
And they're not necessarily in the same position all of the time.

I could import it as a single string into a memo field, but I can't figure
out how to disect a memo field string like that.

When I import it as text, I could break it down at the "<" characters,
importing each one into a separate columns, but I need them in rows, not
columns, to search and find the strings of data I need.

So, in summary, my only two choices (that I can think of) are:

1.  Import the XML as a single string into a memo and somehow parse that
into the data I need.
2.  Import the XML as text, separating it on the "<" characters into
columns, then somehow magically (transpose columns into rows?) transform
that to usable information.

ANY suggestions, short of retirement (although not a bad idea...), would be
GREATLY apprecaited!

Thanks!

Greg Smith



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From shamil at users.mns.ru  Thu Nov 16 10:36:48 2006
From: shamil at users.mns.ru (Shamil Salakhetdinov)
Date: Thu, 16 Nov 2006 19:36:48 +0300
Subject: [AccessD] Parsing XML as a string?
In-Reply-To: <37260.65.118.249.214.1163691962.squirrel@cetus.email.starband.net>
Message-ID: <000f01c7099d$6970e3f0$6401a8c0@nant>

Hello Greg,

Have a look at this topic's code samples:

http://smsconsulting.spb.ru/shamil_s/topics/xmltests.htm

It can give you idea how to parse your XML file(s) using MS XML Core
Services (installed by default (v.5.x) with MS Office/Access 2003).

For other MS Access/Office versions or for the cases when IE is absent on
target PC MSXML Core Services should be downloaded from here
http://msdn.microsoft.com/XML/XMLDownloads/default.aspx and installed.

--
Shamil
 
-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Greg Smith
Sent: Thursday, November 16, 2006 6:46 PM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [AccessD] Parsing XML as a string?

Hi everyone!

Ok...I admit that trying to import that XML file I had directly into
Access may have SEEMED like a good, "easy", idea...at the time...but after
looking around and from the comments here, the idea was...well..it sucked.
 If the XML they were sending to me were compatible then I might have had
a chance...but it's just not feasible.  There actually wasn't any way to
define it using a dtd/xls/xlst within my lifetime, so I'm going to have to
use a different approach.

The files they send as XML are not that large, so I could easily import
them as text, separate out what I need and put it into the required
tables.  However, since they send it as a single string, it becomes harder
to parse it since there are multiple duplicated 'keys' that I need to pull
from it.  And they're not necessarily in the same position all of the
time.

I could import it as a single string into a memo field, but I can't figure
out how to disect a memo field string like that.

When I import it as text, I could break it down at the "<" characters,
importing each one into a separate columns, but I need them in rows, not
columns, to search and find the strings of data I need.

So, in summary, my only two choices (that I can think of) are:

1.  Import the XML as a single string into a memo and somehow parse that
into the data I need.
2.  Import the XML as text, separating it on the "<" characters into
columns, then somehow magically (transpose columns into rows?) transform
that to usable information.

ANY suggestions, short of retirement (although not a bad idea...), would
be GREATLY apprecaited!

Thanks!

Greg Smith



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From GregSmith at starband.net  Thu Nov 16 11:03:50 2006
From: GregSmith at starband.net (Greg Smith)
Date: Thu, 16 Nov 2006 11:03:50 -0600 (CST)
Subject: [AccessD] Parsing XML as a string?
In-Reply-To: <F55048AF7E974F429BB24597D7355EEA178444@INFOSERVER04.infostat.local>
References: <37260.65.118.249.214.1163691962.squirrel@cetus.email.starband.net>
	<F55048AF7E974F429BB24597D7355EEA178444@INFOSERVER04.infostat.local>
Message-ID: <43938.65.118.249.214.1163696630.squirrel@cetus.email.starband.net>

Charlotte:

I'm using MS Access 2003, but the system where it will be implemented is
Access XP.

I can look at the XML file using XLMSpy Home and it authenticates to a DTD
for validity.  However, Access does not recognize it as a valid type
because it's attribute-centric XML, not element-centric XML (or so I've
been told).  When I import it into Access, it just comes up with a bunch
of empty tables.  When I append to those tables, it just adds another
empty row.  And I was told that the reason for that is because of the
attribute/element issue, which MS talks about in their Tech Support, but
doesn't address this type of XML.

Greg

> Remind me what version of Access you're using.  ADO is capable to
> handling xml files, but you need to have a good idea of the structure
> involved.  The line breaks don't really count in an xml file, they're
> there for human use.  Can you look at the file in an xml parser?
>
> Charlotte Foust
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Greg Smith
> Sent: Thursday, November 16, 2006 7:46 AM
> To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
> Subject: [AccessD] Parsing XML as a string?
>
> Hi everyone!
>
> Ok...I admit that trying to import that XML file I had directly into
> Access may have SEEMED like a good, "easy", idea...at the time...but
> after looking around and from the comments here, the idea was...well..it
> sucked.
>  If the XML they were sending to me were compatible then I might have
> had a chance...but it's just not feasible.  There actually wasn't any
> way to define it using a dtd/xls/xlst within my lifetime, so I'm going
> to have to use a different approach.
>
> The files they send as XML are not that large, so I could easily import
> them as text, separate out what I need and put it into the required
> tables.  However, since they send it as a single string, it becomes
> harder to parse it since there are multiple duplicated 'keys' that I
> need to pull from it.  And they're not necessarily in the same position
> all of the time.
>
> I could import it as a single string into a memo field, but I can't
> figure out how to disect a memo field string like that.
>
> When I import it as text, I could break it down at the "<" characters,
> importing each one into a separate columns, but I need them in rows, not
> columns, to search and find the strings of data I need.
>
> So, in summary, my only two choices (that I can think of) are:
>
> 1.  Import the XML as a single string into a memo and somehow parse that
> into the data I need.
> 2.  Import the XML as text, separating it on the "<" characters into
> columns, then somehow magically (transpose columns into rows?) transform
> that to usable information.
>
> ANY suggestions, short of retirement (although not a bad idea...), would
> be GREATLY apprecaited!
>
> Thanks!
>
> Greg Smith
>
>
>
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From GregSmith at starband.net  Thu Nov 16 11:08:41 2006
From: GregSmith at starband.net (Greg Smith)
Date: Thu, 16 Nov 2006 11:08:41 -0600 (CST)
Subject: [AccessD] Parsing XML as a string?
In-Reply-To: <006b01c7099c$d689c610$e1265b05@m6805>
References: <37260.65.118.249.214.1163691962.squirrel@cetus.email.starband.net>
	<006b01c7099c$d689c610$e1265b05@m6805>
Message-ID: <44328.65.118.249.214.1163696921.squirrel@cetus.email.starband.net>

John:

I sent you a full copy of the XML file offline.

Greg

> Not having followed the original thread...
>
> It sounds like a good place for a pair of classes.  One class would hold
> each "snippet" based on the < characters.  A parent class would break
> down the string into these snippets, load them into the snippet classes
> and hold the snippet classes in a collection.  Once the huge string is
> parsed into snippets, the parent class can process them by iterating the
> collection of snippets doing whatever was required for each snippet.
>
> Once you have processed the snippets, you can write the results out to a
> table.
>
> That is obviously a "big picture".
>
> Can you paste a sample of the xml into an email so that I can see it.
> Sorry, I wasn't following the original discussion.
>
> John W. Colby
> Colby Consulting
> www.ColbyConsulting.com
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Greg Smith
> Sent: Thursday, November 16, 2006 10:46 AM
> To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
> Subject: [AccessD] Parsing XML as a string?
>
> Hi everyone!
>
> Ok...I admit that trying to import that XML file I had directly into
> Access may have SEEMED like a good, "easy", idea...at the time...but
> after looking around and from the comments here, the idea was...well..it
> sucked.
>  If the XML they were sending to me were compatible then I might have
> had a
> chance...but it's just not feasible.  There actually wasn't any way to
> define it using a dtd/xls/xlst within my lifetime, so I'm going to have
> to use a different approach.
>
> The files they send as XML are not that large, so I could easily import
> them as text, separate out what I need and put it into the required
> tables. However, since they send it as a single string, it becomes
> harder to parse it since there are multiple duplicated 'keys' that I
> need to pull from it. And they're not necessarily in the same position
> all of the time.
>
> I could import it as a single string into a memo field, but I can't
> figure out how to disect a memo field string like that.
>
> When I import it as text, I could break it down at the "<" characters,
> importing each one into a separate columns, but I need them in rows, not
> columns, to search and find the strings of data I need.
>
> So, in summary, my only two choices (that I can think of) are:
>
> 1.  Import the XML as a single string into a memo and somehow parse that
> into the data I need.
> 2.  Import the XML as text, separating it on the "<" characters into
> columns, then somehow magically (transpose columns into rows?) transform
> that to usable information.
>
> ANY suggestions, short of retirement (although not a bad idea...), would
> be GREATLY apprecaited!
>
> Thanks!
>
> Greg Smith
>
>
>
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From GregSmith at starband.net  Thu Nov 16 11:20:55 2006
From: GregSmith at starband.net (Greg Smith)
Date: Thu, 16 Nov 2006 11:20:55 -0600 (CST)
Subject: [AccessD] Parsing XML as a string?
In-Reply-To: <000f01c7099d$6970e3f0$6401a8c0@nant>
References: <37260.65.118.249.214.1163691962.squirrel@cetus.email.starband.net>
	<000f01c7099d$6970e3f0$6401a8c0@nant>
Message-ID: <45248.65.118.249.214.1163697655.squirrel@cetus.email.starband.net>

Shamil:

Thanks...I'm looking at it now.  This will take a little closer
examination to see if it will work!

Thanks again.

Greg

> Hello Greg,
>
> Have a look at this topic's code samples:
>
> http://smsconsulting.spb.ru/shamil_s/topics/xmltests.htm
>
> It can give you idea how to parse your XML file(s) using MS XML Core
> Services (installed by default (v.5.x) with MS Office/Access 2003).
>
> For other MS Access/Office versions or for the cases when IE is absent
> on target PC MSXML Core Services should be downloaded from here
> http://msdn.microsoft.com/XML/XMLDownloads/default.aspx and installed.
>
> --
> Shamil
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Greg Smith
> Sent: Thursday, November 16, 2006 6:46 PM
> To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
> Subject: [AccessD] Parsing XML as a string?
>
> Hi everyone!
>
> Ok...I admit that trying to import that XML file I had directly into
> Access may have SEEMED like a good, "easy", idea...at the time...but
> after looking around and from the comments here, the idea was...well..it
> sucked.
>  If the XML they were sending to me were compatible then I might have
> had
> a chance...but it's just not feasible.  There actually wasn't any way to
> define it using a dtd/xls/xlst within my lifetime, so I'm going to have
> to use a different approach.
>
> The files they send as XML are not that large, so I could easily import
> them as text, separate out what I need and put it into the required
> tables.  However, since they send it as a single string, it becomes
> harder to parse it since there are multiple duplicated 'keys' that I
> need to pull from it.  And they're not necessarily in the same position
> all of the time.
>
> I could import it as a single string into a memo field, but I can't
> figure out how to disect a memo field string like that.
>
> When I import it as text, I could break it down at the "<" characters,
> importing each one into a separate columns, but I need them in rows, not
> columns, to search and find the strings of data I need.
>
> So, in summary, my only two choices (that I can think of) are:
>
> 1.  Import the XML as a single string into a memo and somehow parse that
> into the data I need.
> 2.  Import the XML as text, separating it on the "<" characters into
> columns, then somehow magically (transpose columns into rows?) transform
> that to usable information.
>
> ANY suggestions, short of retirement (although not a bad idea...), would
> be GREATLY apprecaited!
>
> Thanks!
>
> Greg Smith
>
>
>
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From cfoust at infostatsystems.com  Thu Nov 16 11:29:53 2006
From: cfoust at infostatsystems.com (Charlotte Foust)
Date: Thu, 16 Nov 2006 09:29:53 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] Parsing XML as a string?
In-Reply-To: <43938.65.118.249.214.1163696630.squirrel@cetus.email.starband.net>
Message-ID: <F55048AF7E974F429BB24597D7355EEA17844C@INFOSERVER04.infostat.local>

Ack!  No wonder you're having problems importing.  I've never tried that
type with Access, only Vb.Net, so I'll leave the rescue to Shamil. LOL

Charlotte Foust 

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Greg Smith
Sent: Thursday, November 16, 2006 9:04 AM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Parsing XML as a string?

Charlotte:

I'm using MS Access 2003, but the system where it will be implemented is
Access XP.

I can look at the XML file using XLMSpy Home and it authenticates to a
DTD for validity.  However, Access does not recognize it as a valid type
because it's attribute-centric XML, not element-centric XML (or so I've
been told).  When I import it into Access, it just comes up with a bunch
of empty tables.  When I append to those tables, it just adds another
empty row.  And I was told that the reason for that is because of the
attribute/element issue, which MS talks about in their Tech Support, but
doesn't address this type of XML.

Greg

> Remind me what version of Access you're using.  ADO is capable to 
> handling xml files, but you need to have a good idea of the structure 
> involved.  The line breaks don't really count in an xml file, they're 
> there for human use.  Can you look at the file in an xml parser?
>
> Charlotte Foust
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Greg Smith
> Sent: Thursday, November 16, 2006 7:46 AM
> To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
> Subject: [AccessD] Parsing XML as a string?
>
> Hi everyone!
>
> Ok...I admit that trying to import that XML file I had directly into 
> Access may have SEEMED like a good, "easy", idea...at the time...but 
> after looking around and from the comments here, the idea 
> was...well..it sucked.
>  If the XML they were sending to me were compatible then I might have 
> had a chance...but it's just not feasible.  There actually wasn't any 
> way to define it using a dtd/xls/xlst within my lifetime, so I'm going

> to have to use a different approach.
>
> The files they send as XML are not that large, so I could easily 
> import them as text, separate out what I need and put it into the 
> required tables.  However, since they send it as a single string, it 
> becomes harder to parse it since there are multiple duplicated 'keys' 
> that I need to pull from it.  And they're not necessarily in the same 
> position all of the time.
>
> I could import it as a single string into a memo field, but I can't 
> figure out how to disect a memo field string like that.
>
> When I import it as text, I could break it down at the "<" characters,

> importing each one into a separate columns, but I need them in rows, 
> not columns, to search and find the strings of data I need.
>
> So, in summary, my only two choices (that I can think of) are:
>
> 1.  Import the XML as a single string into a memo and somehow parse 
> that into the data I need.
> 2.  Import the XML as text, separating it on the "<" characters into 
> columns, then somehow magically (transpose columns into rows?) 
> transform that to usable information.
>
> ANY suggestions, short of retirement (although not a bad idea...), 
> would be GREATLY apprecaited!
>
> Thanks!
>
> Greg Smith
>
>
>
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From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com  Thu Nov 16 11:47:14 2006
From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (JWColby)
Date: Thu, 16 Nov 2006 12:47:14 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Parsing XML as a string?
In-Reply-To: <44328.65.118.249.214.1163696921.squirrel@cetus.email.starband.net>
Message-ID: <007301c709a7$40a51ea0$e1265b05@m6805>

OK, so I assume that you want to get the items, enclosed by < /> where there
are two "values" separated by a space?

You want all of them?
Just specific ones?
Are there more than one of the "big items" defined as the entire thing you
sent me) in a single file?

This looks trivial to parse based on the <> pairs as beginning / ending a
field.  This assumes that neither of these characters are found in the image
data.

I am not intimate with XML, but I thought that XML had <FieldName> data
</FieldName>.  This obviously doesn't.

John W. Colby
Colby Consulting
www.ColbyConsulting.com

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Greg Smith
Sent: Thursday, November 16, 2006 12:09 PM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Parsing XML as a string?

John:

I sent you a full copy of the XML file offline.

Greg

> Not having followed the original thread...
>
> It sounds like a good place for a pair of classes.  One class would 
> hold each "snippet" based on the < characters.  A parent class would 
> break down the string into these snippets, load them into the snippet 
> classes and hold the snippet classes in a collection.  Once the huge 
> string is parsed into snippets, the parent class can process them by 
> iterating the collection of snippets doing whatever was required for each
snippet.
>
> Once you have processed the snippets, you can write the results out to 
> a table.
>
> That is obviously a "big picture".
>
> Can you paste a sample of the xml into an email so that I can see it.
> Sorry, I wasn't following the original discussion.
>
> John W. Colby
> Colby Consulting
> www.ColbyConsulting.com
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Greg Smith
> Sent: Thursday, November 16, 2006 10:46 AM
> To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
> Subject: [AccessD] Parsing XML as a string?
>
> Hi everyone!
>
> Ok...I admit that trying to import that XML file I had directly into 
> Access may have SEEMED like a good, "easy", idea...at the time...but 
> after looking around and from the comments here, the idea 
> was...well..it sucked.
>  If the XML they were sending to me were compatible then I might have 
> had a chance...but it's just not feasible.  There actually wasn't any 
> way to define it using a dtd/xls/xlst within my lifetime, so I'm going 
> to have to use a different approach.
>
> The files they send as XML are not that large, so I could easily 
> import them as text, separate out what I need and put it into the 
> required tables. However, since they send it as a single string, it 
> becomes harder to parse it since there are multiple duplicated 'keys' 
> that I need to pull from it. And they're not necessarily in the same 
> position all of the time.
>
> I could import it as a single string into a memo field, but I can't 
> figure out how to disect a memo field string like that.
>
> When I import it as text, I could break it down at the "<" characters, 
> importing each one into a separate columns, but I need them in rows, 
> not columns, to search and find the strings of data I need.
>
> So, in summary, my only two choices (that I can think of) are:
>
> 1.  Import the XML as a single string into a memo and somehow parse 
> that into the data I need.
> 2.  Import the XML as text, separating it on the "<" characters into 
> columns, then somehow magically (transpose columns into rows?) 
> transform that to usable information.
>
> ANY suggestions, short of retirement (although not a bad idea...), 
> would be GREATLY apprecaited!
>
> Thanks!
>
> Greg Smith
>
>
>
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From cfoust at infostatsystems.com  Thu Nov 16 11:59:46 2006
From: cfoust at infostatsystems.com (Charlotte Foust)
Date: Thu, 16 Nov 2006 09:59:46 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] Parsing XML as a string?
In-Reply-To: <007301c709a7$40a51ea0$e1265b05@m6805>
Message-ID: <F55048AF7E974F429BB24597D7355EEA17844F@INFOSERVER04.infostat.local>

More likely something like this, where the attribute readonly, of the
element dbtype, has a value of "False":

 <dbtype readonly="False">0</dbtype> 

Multiple attributes in the element would be separated by spaces.  Each
element can have 0 to many attributes and they could conceivably vary
from node to node.  Ouch!

Charlotte Foust

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of JWColby
Sent: Thursday, November 16, 2006 9:47 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Parsing XML as a string?

OK, so I assume that you want to get the items, enclosed by < /> where
there are two "values" separated by a space?

You want all of them?
Just specific ones?
Are there more than one of the "big items" defined as the entire thing
you sent me) in a single file?

This looks trivial to parse based on the <> pairs as beginning / ending
a field.  This assumes that neither of these characters are found in the
image data.

I am not intimate with XML, but I thought that XML had <FieldName> data
</FieldName>.  This obviously doesn't.

John W. Colby
Colby Consulting
www.ColbyConsulting.com

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Greg Smith
Sent: Thursday, November 16, 2006 12:09 PM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Parsing XML as a string?

John:

I sent you a full copy of the XML file offline.

Greg

> Not having followed the original thread...
>
> It sounds like a good place for a pair of classes.  One class would 
> hold each "snippet" based on the < characters.  A parent class would 
> break down the string into these snippets, load them into the snippet 
> classes and hold the snippet classes in a collection.  Once the huge 
> string is parsed into snippets, the parent class can process them by 
> iterating the collection of snippets doing whatever was required for 
> each
snippet.
>
> Once you have processed the snippets, you can write the results out to

> a table.
>
> That is obviously a "big picture".
>
> Can you paste a sample of the xml into an email so that I can see it.
> Sorry, I wasn't following the original discussion.
>
> John W. Colby
> Colby Consulting
> www.ColbyConsulting.com
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Greg Smith
> Sent: Thursday, November 16, 2006 10:46 AM
> To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
> Subject: [AccessD] Parsing XML as a string?
>
> Hi everyone!
>
> Ok...I admit that trying to import that XML file I had directly into 
> Access may have SEEMED like a good, "easy", idea...at the time...but 
> after looking around and from the comments here, the idea 
> was...well..it sucked.
>  If the XML they were sending to me were compatible then I might have 
> had a chance...but it's just not feasible.  There actually wasn't any 
> way to define it using a dtd/xls/xlst within my lifetime, so I'm going

> to have to use a different approach.
>
> The files they send as XML are not that large, so I could easily 
> import them as text, separate out what I need and put it into the 
> required tables. However, since they send it as a single string, it 
> becomes harder to parse it since there are multiple duplicated 'keys'
> that I need to pull from it. And they're not necessarily in the same 
> position all of the time.
>
> I could import it as a single string into a memo field, but I can't 
> figure out how to disect a memo field string like that.
>
> When I import it as text, I could break it down at the "<" characters,

> importing each one into a separate columns, but I need them in rows, 
> not columns, to search and find the strings of data I need.
>
> So, in summary, my only two choices (that I can think of) are:
>
> 1.  Import the XML as a single string into a memo and somehow parse 
> that into the data I need.
> 2.  Import the XML as text, separating it on the "<" characters into 
> columns, then somehow magically (transpose columns into rows?) 
> transform that to usable information.
>
> ANY suggestions, short of retirement (although not a bad idea...), 
> would be GREATLY apprecaited!
>
> Thanks!
>
> Greg Smith
>
>
>
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From Jdemarco at hudsonhealthplan.org  Thu Nov 16 12:56:42 2006
From: Jdemarco at hudsonhealthplan.org (Jim DeMarco)
Date: Thu, 16 Nov 2006 13:56:42 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Parsing XML as a string?
Message-ID: <0B8880A20E2CF24280FA60901E108FB0248A@TTNEXCHSVR.hshhp.com>

Not to oversimplify (and XSL is not simple) but if this is a file you're
going to handle regularly I'd consider writing an XSL transform to put
the attributes into nodes that Access will understand. Then your import
will be trivial.  You've already noted that the file is validated via
DTD so we know it'll parse.

Great book on subject : "Just XSL" 


Jim DeMarco

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Charlotte
Foust
Sent: Thursday, November 16, 2006 1:00 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Parsing XML as a string?

More likely something like this, where the attribute readonly, of the
element dbtype, has a value of "False":

 <dbtype readonly="False">0</dbtype> 

Multiple attributes in the element would be separated by spaces.  Each
element can have 0 to many attributes and they could conceivably vary
from node to node.  Ouch!

Charlotte Foust

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of JWColby
Sent: Thursday, November 16, 2006 9:47 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Parsing XML as a string?

OK, so I assume that you want to get the items, enclosed by < /> where
there are two "values" separated by a space?

You want all of them?
Just specific ones?
Are there more than one of the "big items" defined as the entire thing
you sent me) in a single file?

This looks trivial to parse based on the <> pairs as beginning / ending
a field.  This assumes that neither of these characters are found in the
image data.

I am not intimate with XML, but I thought that XML had <FieldName> data
</FieldName>.  This obviously doesn't.

John W. Colby
Colby Consulting
www.ColbyConsulting.com

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Greg Smith
Sent: Thursday, November 16, 2006 12:09 PM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Parsing XML as a string?

John:

I sent you a full copy of the XML file offline.

Greg

> Not having followed the original thread...
>
> It sounds like a good place for a pair of classes.  One class would 
> hold each "snippet" based on the < characters.  A parent class would 
> break down the string into these snippets, load them into the snippet 
> classes and hold the snippet classes in a collection.  Once the huge 
> string is parsed into snippets, the parent class can process them by 
> iterating the collection of snippets doing whatever was required for 
> each
snippet.
>
> Once you have processed the snippets, you can write the results out to

> a table.
>
> That is obviously a "big picture".
>
> Can you paste a sample of the xml into an email so that I can see it.
> Sorry, I wasn't following the original discussion.
>
> John W. Colby
> Colby Consulting
> www.ColbyConsulting.com
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Greg Smith
> Sent: Thursday, November 16, 2006 10:46 AM
> To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
> Subject: [AccessD] Parsing XML as a string?
>
> Hi everyone!
>
> Ok...I admit that trying to import that XML file I had directly into 
> Access may have SEEMED like a good, "easy", idea...at the time...but 
> after looking around and from the comments here, the idea 
> was...well..it sucked.
>  If the XML they were sending to me were compatible then I might have 
> had a chance...but it's just not feasible.  There actually wasn't any 
> way to define it using a dtd/xls/xlst within my lifetime, so I'm going

> to have to use a different approach.
>
> The files they send as XML are not that large, so I could easily 
> import them as text, separate out what I need and put it into the 
> required tables. However, since they send it as a single string, it 
> becomes harder to parse it since there are multiple duplicated 'keys'
> that I need to pull from it. And they're not necessarily in the same 
> position all of the time.
>
> I could import it as a single string into a memo field, but I can't 
> figure out how to disect a memo field string like that.
>
> When I import it as text, I could break it down at the "<" characters,

> importing each one into a separate columns, but I need them in rows, 
> not columns, to search and find the strings of data I need.
>
> So, in summary, my only two choices (that I can think of) are:
>
> 1.  Import the XML as a single string into a memo and somehow parse 
> that into the data I need.
> 2.  Import the XML as text, separating it on the "<" characters into 
> columns, then somehow magically (transpose columns into rows?) 
> transform that to usable information.
>
> ANY suggestions, short of retirement (although not a bad idea...), 
> would be GREATLY apprecaited!
>
> Thanks!
>
> Greg Smith
>
>
>
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From GregSmith at starband.net  Thu Nov 16 13:18:14 2006
From: GregSmith at starband.net (Greg Smith)
Date: Thu, 16 Nov 2006 13:18:14 -0600 (CST)
Subject: [AccessD] Parsing XML as a string?
In-Reply-To: <007301c709a7$40a51ea0$e1265b05@m6805>
References: <44328.65.118.249.214.1163696921.squirrel@cetus.email.starband.net>
	<007301c709a7$40a51ea0$e1265b05@m6805>
Message-ID: <54609.65.118.249.214.1163704694.squirrel@cetus.email.starband.net>

John:

Yes...I want a lot of the enclosed < /> fields, but I also need them with
respect to their description, such as the FEES, of which (in this example)
there are 5, each with it's own description "StandardFee", etc.  So I'll
not only need to get the data, such as the fee, but I have to be able to
delineate which fee it is so it can go in the right table field.  For all
practical purposes, I can ignore anything after the start of the
<DOCUMENT> because there's no data past that point.

And you are also correct in that this doesn't fit today's standard xml
format.  I've even asked the people who are sending it to me just WHAT
type of xml is it, but not gotten an answer...which makes me believe they
don't know either.  It works for what they want, so don't mess with it I
guess...and, of course, out of 99 counties, mine is the ONLY one using an
Access db program to do the Recorder's work (so far... :)).

You'll note that some of the Elements (Fee) have two attributes, whereas
some of them (Grantor) have many more.  So a rule that says only get the
two would not work in all cases.  Although maybe breaking it down first by
the < /> and then looking inside each of those...

Greg


> OK, so I assume that you want to get the items, enclosed by < /> where
> there are two "values" separated by a space?
>
> You want all of them?
> Just specific ones?
> Are there more than one of the "big items" defined as the entire thing
> you sent me) in a single file?
>
> This looks trivial to parse based on the <> pairs as beginning / ending
> a field.  This assumes that neither of these characters are found in the
> image data.
>
> I am not intimate with XML, but I thought that XML had <FieldName> data
> </FieldName>.  This obviously doesn't.
>
> John W. Colby
> Colby Consulting
> www.ColbyConsulting.com
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Greg Smith
> Sent: Thursday, November 16, 2006 12:09 PM
> To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] Parsing XML as a string?
>
> John:
>
> I sent you a full copy of the XML file offline.
>
> Greg
>
>> Not having followed the original thread...
>>
>> It sounds like a good place for a pair of classes.  One class would
>> hold each "snippet" based on the < characters.  A parent class would
>> break down the string into these snippets, load them into the snippet
>> classes and hold the snippet classes in a collection.  Once the huge
>> string is parsed into snippets, the parent class can process them by
>> iterating the collection of snippets doing whatever was required for
>> each
> snippet.
>>
>> Once you have processed the snippets, you can write the results out to
>>  a table.
>>
>> That is obviously a "big picture".
>>
>> Can you paste a sample of the xml into an email so that I can see it.
>> Sorry, I wasn't following the original discussion.
>>
>> John W. Colby
>> Colby Consulting
>> www.ColbyConsulting.com
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Greg Smith
>> Sent: Thursday, November 16, 2006 10:46 AM
>> To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
>> Subject: [AccessD] Parsing XML as a string?
>>
>> Hi everyone!
>>
>> Ok...I admit that trying to import that XML file I had directly into
>> Access may have SEEMED like a good, "easy", idea...at the time...but
>> after looking around and from the comments here, the idea
>> was...well..it sucked.
>>  If the XML they were sending to me were compatible then I might have
>> had a chance...but it's just not feasible.  There actually wasn't any
>> way to define it using a dtd/xls/xlst within my lifetime, so I'm going
>>  to have to use a different approach.
>>
>> The files they send as XML are not that large, so I could easily
>> import them as text, separate out what I need and put it into the
>> required tables. However, since they send it as a single string, it
>> becomes harder to parse it since there are multiple duplicated 'keys'
>> that I need to pull from it. And they're not necessarily in the same
>> position all of the time.
>>
>> I could import it as a single string into a memo field, but I can't
>> figure out how to disect a memo field string like that.
>>
>> When I import it as text, I could break it down at the "<" characters,
>>  importing each one into a separate columns, but I need them in rows,
>> not columns, to search and find the strings of data I need.
>>
>> So, in summary, my only two choices (that I can think of) are:
>>
>> 1.  Import the XML as a single string into a memo and somehow parse
>> that into the data I need.
>> 2.  Import the XML as text, separating it on the "<" characters into
>> columns, then somehow magically (transpose columns into rows?)
>> transform that to usable information.
>>
>> ANY suggestions, short of retirement (although not a bad idea...),
>> would be GREATLY apprecaited!
>>
>> Thanks!
>>
>> Greg Smith
>>
>>
>>
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From shamil at users.mns.ru  Thu Nov 16 13:39:56 2006
From: shamil at users.mns.ru (Shamil Salakhetdinov)
Date: Thu, 16 Nov 2006 22:39:56 +0300
Subject: [AccessD] Parsing XML as a string?
In-Reply-To: <54609.65.118.249.214.1163704694.squirrel@cetus.email.starband.net>
Message-ID: <001f01c709b6$fed888d0$6401a8c0@nant>

<<<
Although maybe breaking it down first by the < /> and then looking inside
each of those...
>>>
Greg,

The simplest and the most effective and safe practical approach is to use
MSXML's DOM for relatively small XML files and MSXML's SAX API for large XML
files.

I'd recommend not spending your valuable time trying to parse XML files
using custom code - that's not a trivial task for a general case. And
because you say that the party which supplies you with this XML file has
almost no idea "how they make it" then custom parsing approach looks even
more risky...

--
Shamil
 

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Greg Smith
Sent: Thursday, November 16, 2006 10:18 PM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Parsing XML as a string?

John:

Yes...I want a lot of the enclosed < /> fields, but I also need them with
respect to their description, such as the FEES, of which (in this example)
there are 5, each with it's own description "StandardFee", etc.  So I'll
not only need to get the data, such as the fee, but I have to be able to
delineate which fee it is so it can go in the right table field.  For all
practical purposes, I can ignore anything after the start of the
<DOCUMENT> because there's no data past that point.

And you are also correct in that this doesn't fit today's standard xml
format.  I've even asked the people who are sending it to me just WHAT
type of xml is it, but not gotten an answer...which makes me believe they
don't know either.  It works for what they want, so don't mess with it I
guess...and, of course, out of 99 counties, mine is the ONLY one using an
Access db program to do the Recorder's work (so far... :)).

You'll note that some of the Elements (Fee) have two attributes, whereas
some of them (Grantor) have many more.  So a rule that says only get the
two would not work in all cases.  Although maybe breaking it down first by
the < /> and then looking inside each of those...

Greg

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From lmrazek at lcm-res.com  Thu Nov 16 14:19:41 2006
From: lmrazek at lcm-res.com (Lawrence Mrazek)
Date: Thu, 16 Nov 2006 14:19:41 -0600
Subject: [AccessD] Query / Report Objects in Front End ... Max Number?
In-Reply-To: <001f01c709b6$fed888d0$6401a8c0@nant>
Message-ID: <03a901c709bc$8d33eac0$026fa8c0@stormy>

Hi Folks:

(using Access XP in FE/BE configuration)

I have a database that currently has 40+ query objects and 40+ report
objects for running analyses, and I just got a request from the client
wanting some additional custom reports. 

My question is how many report and query objects is too many for the Front
End? Could I be inviting corruption in the db if I had too many query and
report objects?

Thanks, just wanted to get a few other opinions on this matter. 

Larry Mrazek
LCM Research, Inc.
www.lcm-res.com
lmrazek at lcm-res.com
ph. 314.432.5886
fx. 314.432.3304




From andy at minstersystems.co.uk  Thu Nov 16 15:19:05 2006
From: andy at minstersystems.co.uk (Andy Lacey)
Date: Thu, 16 Nov 2006 21:19:05 -0000
Subject: [AccessD] Query / Report Objects in Front End ... Max Number?
In-Reply-To: <03a901c709bc$8d33eac0$026fa8c0@stormy>
Message-ID: <014601c709c4$d886a050$32990c54@minster33c3r25>

I wouldn't worry Larry. I've an app with over 400 reports and well over
1,000 queries. No problem.

-- Andy Lacey
http://www.minstersystems.co.uk 




> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com 
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of 
> Lawrence Mrazek
> Sent: 16 November 2006 20:20
> To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
> Subject: [AccessD] Query / Report Objects in Front End ... Max Number?
> 
> 
> Hi Folks:
> 
> (using Access XP in FE/BE configuration)
> 
> I have a database that currently has 40+ query objects and 
> 40+ report objects for running analyses, and I just got a 
> request from the client wanting some additional custom reports. 
> 
> My question is how many report and query objects is too many 
> for the Front End? Could I be inviting corruption in the db 
> if I had too many query and report objects?
> 
> Thanks, just wanted to get a few other opinions on this matter. 
> 
> Larry Mrazek
> LCM Research, Inc.
> www.lcm-res.com
> lmrazek at lcm-res.com
> ph. 314.432.5886
> fx. 314.432.3304
> 
> 
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From Chester_Kaup at kindermorgan.com  Thu Nov 16 15:58:16 2006
From: Chester_Kaup at kindermorgan.com (Kaup, Chester)
Date: Thu, 16 Nov 2006 15:58:16 -0600
Subject: [AccessD] Carry Forward in a query
In-Reply-To: <001501c70946$67f30910$430b65cb@pcadt>
Message-ID: <F1DD538AE6BCE74EBE562DE51564D322022968C0@houexch1.kindermorgan.com>

Thanks! Works great.

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of A.D.TEJPAL
Sent: Thursday, November 16, 2006 12:13 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Carry Forward in a query

Chester,

    It is presumed that table T_PriceIndex too has the field named
Pattern, with appropriate entries. In such a case, you could try
modified SQL as follows:

SELECT T_PriceCurrent.SDate, 
(Select Price from T_PriceIndex as T1 where T1.Pattern =
T_PriceCurrent.Pattern And T1.SDate=(Select Max(SDate) 
from T_PriceIndex AS T2 where T2.Pattern = T_PriceCurrent.Pattern And
T2.SDate<=T_PriceCurrent.SDate)) AS PriceCurrent
FROM T_PriceCurrent;

    Caution: Thi is AirCode - The suggested SQL has not been subjected
to actual test.

Best wishes,
A.D.Tejpal
---------------

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Kaup, Chester 
  To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving 
  Sent: Wednesday, November 15, 2006 04:10
  Subject: Re: [AccessD] Carry Forward in a query


  Here is what I have now. One table with dates and one table like
below.
  Query SQL as below. This works great.

  SELECT T_PriceCurrent.SDate, 
  (Select Price from T_PriceIndex as T1 where T1.SDate=(Select
Max(SDate) 
  from T_PriceIndex AS T2 where T2.SDate<=T_PriceCurrent.SDate)) 
  AS PriceCurrent
  FROM T_PriceCurrent;

  SDate Price
  1/1/2005 8.56
  1/23/2005 8.73
  2/14/2005 8.40
  3/1/2005 8.00
  3/12/2005 8.45
  3/27/2005 8.95
  4/7/2005 8.12
  4/30/2005 7.95
  5/14/2005 8.03
  5/27/2005 8.24
  6/10/2005 9.03
  6/25/2005 9.17
  7/3/2005 9.25
  7/27/2005 9.40
  8/3/2005 9.64

  What I cannot figure how to do is make it work if table looks like
  below. I need output for each Pattern.
  Pattern SDate Price
  1 1/1/2005 8.56
  1 1/23/2005 8.73
  1 2/14/2005 8.40
  1 3/1/2005 8.00
  1 3/12/2005 8.45
  1 3/27/2005 8.95
  1 4/7/2005 8.12
  1 4/30/2005 7.95
  1 5/14/2005 8.03
  1 5/27/2005 8.24
  1 6/10/2005 9.03
  1 6/25/2005 9.17
  1 7/3/2005 9.25
  1 7/27/2005 9.40
  1 8/3/2005 9.64
  2 1/7/2005 8.27
  2 1/24/2005 8.71
  2 2/13/2005 8.35
  2 3/2/2005 8.02
  2 3/13/2005 8.44
  2 3/28/2005 8.93
  2 4/6/2005 8.10
  2 4/28/2005 7.98
  2 5/15/2005 8.05
  2 5/25/2005 8.20
  2 6/9/2005 9.00
  2 6/20/2005 9.15
  2 7/1/2005 9.23
  2 7/25/2005 9.35
  2 8/4/2005 9.65
  2 8/15/2005 9.50

  Thanks for any ideas.

  -----Original Message-----
  From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
  [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Hale, Jim
  Sent: Tuesday, November 14, 2006 3:59 PM
  To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
  Subject: Re: [AccessD] Carry Forward in a query

  If I understand what you want to do, I have done this with a non
  cartesian
  join. I create a table with a one field record and  one record for
each
  date. In the query window I place this table and the table with the
  record
  you want to duplicate WITHOUT ANY JOIN. the resulting data set
produces
  one
  record for each date. HTH
  Jim Hale

  -----Original Message-----
  From: Kaup, Chester [mailto:Chester_Kaup at kindermorgan.com]
  Sent: Tuesday, November 14, 2006 3:13 PM
  To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
  Subject: [AccessD] Carry Forward in a query

  I have a table of data that has a record about every 6 months. I would
  like to generate a record for every month using the previous months
data until there is data for the current records month. I can do this in
code but had a coworker ask if it could be done in a query. I am not
coming up with an answer. Your thoughts please. 

  Chester Kaup
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From lmrazek at lcm-res.com  Thu Nov 16 16:49:08 2006
From: lmrazek at lcm-res.com (Lawrence Mrazek)
Date: Thu, 16 Nov 2006 16:49:08 -0600
Subject: [AccessD] SPAM-LOW: Re: Query / Report Objects in Front End ...
	Max Number?
In-Reply-To: <014601c709c4$d886a050$32990c54@minster33c3r25>
Message-ID: <040301c709d1$6e103800$026fa8c0@stormy>

Thanks Andy:

That makes me feel better. I can now worry about other stuff regarding this
app! <G>

Larry 

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Andy Lacey
Sent: Thursday, November 16, 2006 3:19 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: SPAM-LOW: Re: [AccessD] Query / Report Objects in Front End ... Max
Number?

I wouldn't worry Larry. I've an app with over 400 reports and well over
1,000 queries. No problem.

-- Andy Lacey
http://www.minstersystems.co.uk 




> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Lawrence 
> Mrazek
> Sent: 16 November 2006 20:20
> To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
> Subject: [AccessD] Query / Report Objects in Front End ... Max Number?
> 
> 
> Hi Folks:
> 
> (using Access XP in FE/BE configuration)
> 
> I have a database that currently has 40+ query objects and
> 40+ report objects for running analyses, and I just got a
> request from the client wanting some additional custom reports. 
> 
> My question is how many report and query objects is too many for the 
> Front End? Could I be inviting corruption in the db if I had too many 
> query and report objects?
> 
> Thanks, just wanted to get a few other opinions on this matter. 
> 
> Larry Mrazek
> LCM Research, Inc.
> www.lcm-res.com
> lmrazek at lcm-res.com
> ph. 314.432.5886
> fx. 314.432.3304
> 
> 
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From martyconnelly at shaw.ca  Thu Nov 16 18:47:35 2006
From: martyconnelly at shaw.ca (MartyConnelly)
Date: Thu, 16 Nov 2006 16:47:35 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] Parsing XML as a string?
In-Reply-To: <54609.65.118.249.214.1163704694.squirrel@cetus.email.starband.net>
References: <44328.65.118.249.214.1163696921.squirrel@cetus.email.starband.net>
	<007301c709a7$40a51ea0$e1265b05@m6805>
	<54609.65.118.249.214.1163704694.squirrel@cetus.email.starband.net>
Message-ID: <455D06A7.50501@shaw.ca>

Grab a book on XPath syntax; quickest to learn via examples

This code grabs the Fee attributes via XPath parsing of the xml dom

 Sub xpathtest()
Dim strxml As String
Dim xmldoc As MSXML2.DOMDocument40
Dim nodes As MSXML2.IXMLDOMNodeList
Dim node  As MSXML2.IXMLDOMNode
Dim xmlError    As IXMLDOMParseError
Dim lngErrCode As Long

Set xmldoc = New MSXML2.DOMDocument40
    xmldoc.setProperty "SelectionLanguage", "XPath"
    xmldoc.async = False
    xmldoc.validateOnParse = False
   'xmldoc.resolveExternals = False
xmldoc.Load "C:\Access files\xmltests\Pria Path\pria.xml"
'
               lngErrCode = xmldoc.validate
           '  Debug.Print lngErrCode
            If xmldoc.parseError.errorCode <> 0 Then
                   Debug.Print " Reason: " & xmldoc.parseError.reason
                  Set xmlError = xmldoc.parseError
                   reportParseError xmlError
            End If
'xpath entity name case sensitive
'grab attributes with fee via XPath
Set nodes = xmldoc.selectNodes("//_FEE/@*")

'Set nodes = xmldoc.selectNodes("/fee/@*")
'Set nodes = xmldoc.selectNodes("//_FEE")
'look through nodes collection
For Each node In nodes
    Debug.Print node.Text & " - " & node.nodeName
Next node

'Debug.Print xmldoc.xml
Set nodes = Nothing
Set xmldoc = Nothing
End Sub

Function reportParseError(err As IXMLDOMParseError)
  Dim s As String
  Dim r As String
  Dim i As Long
   s = ""
  For i = 1 To err.linepos - 1
    s = s & " "
  Next
  r = "XML Error loading " & err.url & " * " & err.reason
  Debug.Print r
    'show character postion of error; tired of counting
  If (err.Line > 0) Then
    r = "at line " & err.Line & ", character " & err.linepos & vbCrLf & _
         err.srcText & vbCrLf & s & "^"
  End If
  Debug.Print r
  End Function


"pria.xml"


<!DOCTYPE REQUEST_GROUP SYSTEM  
"http://iowalandrecords.org/portal/dtd/CLRIS_PRIA_Request.dtd">
<REQUEST_GROUP>
  <REQUESTING_PARTY/>
   <RECEIVING_PARTY/>
    <SUBMITTING_PARTY/>
     <REQUEST>
                <KEY _Name="SubmissionID" _Value="4281"/>
                <KEY _Name="GroupName" _Value="JFB_Exemption20060831"/>
                <KEY _Name="SubmissionNumber" _Value="000000061000004281"/>
 
<PRIA_REQUEST _Type="Other" _TypeOtherDescription="ESubmission">
          <PACKAGE>
            <PRIA_DOCUMENT _Code="" _NonRecordableIndicator="N" 
_Type="Deed" _InstrumentDate="20060831" 
_CountyOfRecordationName="Scott"  _StateOfRecordationName="IA">
            <GRANTOR _FirstName="First" _MiddleName="mi" 
_LastName="Last" _NameSuffix="" _UnparsedName="Last First mi" 
_Capacity="" NonPersonEntityIndicator="N"/>
            <GRANTEE _Capacity="" _NonPersonEntityIndicator="N"/>
            <PARTIES>
            <_RETURN_TO_PARTY>
            <NON_PERSON_ENTITY_DETAIL/>
            <CONTACT_DETAIL/>
            </_RETURN_TO_PARTY>
            </PARTIES>
            <EXECUTION/>
            <RECORDING_ENDORSEMENT>
            <_VOLUME_PAGE/>
            <_FEES _TotalAmount="31.00">
            <_FEE _Amount="15.00" _Description="StandardFee"/>
            <_FEE _Amount="3.00" _Description="DocMgmtFee"/>
            <_FEE _Amount="3.00" _Description="ERecordingFee"/>
            <_FEE _Amount="10.00" _Description="TransferFee"/>
            <_FEE _Amount="0.00" _Description="TransferTax"/>
            </_FEES>
            <_EXEMPTIONS _Description="Deed fulfilling contract"/>
            </RECORDING_ENDORSEMENT>
            <EMBEDDED_FILE _Description="" _EncodingType="B64Encode" 
_ID="4421" _Name="Cert.pdf" _NumberOfPages="1">
            <DOCUMENT>-BLAH  - IMAGE FILE - BLAH BLAH ==</DOCUMENT>
           </EMBEDDED_FILE>
          </PRIA_DOCUMENT>
         </PACKAGE>
        </PRIA_REQUEST>
       </REQUEST>
</REQUEST_GROUP>

Greg Smith wrote:

>John:
>
>Yes...I want a lot of the enclosed < /> fields, but I also need them with
>respect to their description, such as the FEES, of which (in this example)
>there are 5, each with it's own description "StandardFee", etc.  So I'll
>not only need to get the data, such as the fee, but I have to be able to
>delineate which fee it is so it can go in the right table field.  For all
>practical purposes, I can ignore anything after the start of the
><DOCUMENT> because there's no data past that point.
>
>And you are also correct in that this doesn't fit today's standard xml
>format.  I've even asked the people who are sending it to me just WHAT
>type of xml is it, but not gotten an answer...which makes me believe they
>don't know either.  It works for what they want, so don't mess with it I
>guess...and, of course, out of 99 counties, mine is the ONLY one using an
>Access db program to do the Recorder's work (so far... :)).
>
>You'll note that some of the Elements (Fee) have two attributes, whereas
>some of them (Grantor) have many more.  So a rule that says only get the
>two would not work in all cases.  Although maybe breaking it down first by
>the < /> and then looking inside each of those...
>
>Greg
>
>
>  
>
>>OK, so I assume that you want to get the items, enclosed by < /> where
>>there are two "values" separated by a space?
>>
>>You want all of them?
>>Just specific ones?
>>Are there more than one of the "big items" defined as the entire thing
>>you sent me) in a single file?
>>
>>This looks trivial to parse based on the <> pairs as beginning / ending
>>a field.  This assumes that neither of these characters are found in the
>>image data.
>>
>>I am not intimate with XML, but I thought that XML had <FieldName> data
>></FieldName>.  This obviously doesn't.
>>
>>John W. Colby
>>Colby Consulting
>>www.ColbyConsulting.com
>>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>>[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Greg Smith
>>Sent: Thursday, November 16, 2006 12:09 PM
>>To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
>>Subject: Re: [AccessD] Parsing XML as a string?
>>
>>John:
>>
>>I sent you a full copy of the XML file offline.
>>
>>Greg
>>
>>    
>>
>>>Not having followed the original thread...
>>>
>>>It sounds like a good place for a pair of classes.  One class would
>>>hold each "snippet" based on the < characters.  A parent class would
>>>break down the string into these snippets, load them into the snippet
>>>classes and hold the snippet classes in a collection.  Once the huge
>>>string is parsed into snippets, the parent class can process them by
>>>iterating the collection of snippets doing whatever was required for
>>>each
>>>      
>>>
>>snippet.
>>    
>>
>>>Once you have processed the snippets, you can write the results out to
>>> a table.
>>>
>>>That is obviously a "big picture".
>>>
>>>Can you paste a sample of the xml into an email so that I can see it.
>>>Sorry, I wasn't following the original discussion.
>>>
>>>John W. Colby
>>>Colby Consulting
>>>www.ColbyConsulting.com
>>>
>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>>>[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Greg Smith
>>>Sent: Thursday, November 16, 2006 10:46 AM
>>>To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
>>>Subject: [AccessD] Parsing XML as a string?
>>>
>>>Hi everyone!
>>>
>>>Ok...I admit that trying to import that XML file I had directly into
>>>Access may have SEEMED like a good, "easy", idea...at the time...but
>>>after looking around and from the comments here, the idea
>>>was...well..it sucked.
>>> If the XML they were sending to me were compatible then I might have
>>>had a chance...but it's just not feasible.  There actually wasn't any
>>>way to define it using a dtd/xls/xlst within my lifetime, so I'm going
>>> to have to use a different approach.
>>>
>>>The files they send as XML are not that large, so I could easily
>>>import them as text, separate out what I need and put it into the
>>>required tables. However, since they send it as a single string, it
>>>becomes harder to parse it since there are multiple duplicated 'keys'
>>>that I need to pull from it. And they're not necessarily in the same
>>>position all of the time.
>>>
>>>I could import it as a single string into a memo field, but I can't
>>>figure out how to disect a memo field string like that.
>>>
>>>When I import it as text, I could break it down at the "<" characters,
>>> importing each one into a separate columns, but I need them in rows,
>>>not columns, to search and find the strings of data I need.
>>>
>>>So, in summary, my only two choices (that I can think of) are:
>>>
>>>1.  Import the XML as a single string into a memo and somehow parse
>>>that into the data I need.
>>>2.  Import the XML as text, separating it on the "<" characters into
>>>columns, then somehow magically (transpose columns into rows?)
>>>transform that to usable information.
>>>
>>>ANY suggestions, short of retirement (although not a bad idea...),
>>>would be GREATLY apprecaited!
>>>
>>>Thanks!
>>>
>>>Greg Smith
>>>
>>>      
>>>
>  
>

-- 
Marty Connelly
Victoria, B.C.
Canada



From Gustav at cactus.dk  Fri Nov 17 05:01:41 2006
From: Gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Fri, 17 Nov 2006 12:01:41 +0100
Subject: [AccessD] Parsing XML as a string?
Message-ID: <s55da4c6.006@cactus.dk>

Hi Greg

I would listen closely to the advice from Shamil - manually parsing XML is like reinventing the wheel, only much more difficult.

If, for some reason, the Microsoft tools don't fit your task, take a look at the free (and very fast) XML parser from Chilkat:

  http://www.chilkatsoft.com/xml-activex.asp 

and documentation:

  http://www.chilkatsoft.com/refdoc/xChilkatXmlRef.html

/gustav



From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com  Fri Nov 17 05:15:28 2006
From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (JWColby)
Date: Fri, 17 Nov 2006 06:15:28 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Parsing XML as a string?
In-Reply-To: <54609.65.118.249.214.1163704694.squirrel@cetus.email.starband.net>
Message-ID: <008501c70a39$b0a33c90$e1265b05@m6805>

Greg,

Have you found a parser you are happy with?  I concur with others that you
should use a parser program if you can find one that works with this thing,
but if you can't come back and say so.

John W. Colby
Colby Consulting
www.ColbyConsulting.com

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Greg Smith
Sent: Thursday, November 16, 2006 2:18 PM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Parsing XML as a string?

John:

Yes...I want a lot of the enclosed < /> fields, but I also need them with
respect to their description, such as the FEES, of which (in this example)
there are 5, each with it's own description "StandardFee", etc.  So I'll not
only need to get the data, such as the fee, but I have to be able to
delineate which fee it is so it can go in the right table field.  For all
practical purposes, I can ignore anything after the start of the <DOCUMENT>
because there's no data past that point.

And you are also correct in that this doesn't fit today's standard xml
format.  I've even asked the people who are sending it to me just WHAT type
of xml is it, but not gotten an answer...which makes me believe they don't
know either.  It works for what they want, so don't mess with it I
guess...and, of course, out of 99 counties, mine is the ONLY one using an
Access db program to do the Recorder's work (so far... :)).

You'll note that some of the Elements (Fee) have two attributes, whereas
some of them (Grantor) have many more.  So a rule that says only get the two
would not work in all cases.  Although maybe breaking it down first by the <
/> and then looking inside each of those...

Greg


> OK, so I assume that you want to get the items, enclosed by < /> where 
> there are two "values" separated by a space?
>
> You want all of them?
> Just specific ones?
> Are there more than one of the "big items" defined as the entire thing 
> you sent me) in a single file?
>
> This looks trivial to parse based on the <> pairs as beginning / 
> ending a field.  This assumes that neither of these characters are 
> found in the image data.
>
> I am not intimate with XML, but I thought that XML had <FieldName> 
> data </FieldName>.  This obviously doesn't.
>
> John W. Colby
> Colby Consulting
> www.ColbyConsulting.com
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Greg Smith
> Sent: Thursday, November 16, 2006 12:09 PM
> To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] Parsing XML as a string?
>
> John:
>
> I sent you a full copy of the XML file offline.
>
> Greg
>
>> Not having followed the original thread...
>>
>> It sounds like a good place for a pair of classes.  One class would 
>> hold each "snippet" based on the < characters.  A parent class would 
>> break down the string into these snippets, load them into the snippet 
>> classes and hold the snippet classes in a collection.  Once the huge 
>> string is parsed into snippets, the parent class can process them by 
>> iterating the collection of snippets doing whatever was required for 
>> each
> snippet.
>>
>> Once you have processed the snippets, you can write the results out 
>> to  a table.
>>
>> That is obviously a "big picture".
>>
>> Can you paste a sample of the xml into an email so that I can see it.
>> Sorry, I wasn't following the original discussion.
>>
>> John W. Colby
>> Colby Consulting
>> www.ColbyConsulting.com
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Greg Smith
>> Sent: Thursday, November 16, 2006 10:46 AM
>> To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
>> Subject: [AccessD] Parsing XML as a string?
>>
>> Hi everyone!
>>
>> Ok...I admit that trying to import that XML file I had directly into 
>> Access may have SEEMED like a good, "easy", idea...at the time...but 
>> after looking around and from the comments here, the idea 
>> was...well..it sucked.
>>  If the XML they were sending to me were compatible then I might have 
>> had a chance...but it's just not feasible.  There actually wasn't any 
>> way to define it using a dtd/xls/xlst within my lifetime, so I'm 
>> going  to have to use a different approach.
>>
>> The files they send as XML are not that large, so I could easily 
>> import them as text, separate out what I need and put it into the 
>> required tables. However, since they send it as a single string, it 
>> becomes harder to parse it since there are multiple duplicated 'keys'
>> that I need to pull from it. And they're not necessarily in the same 
>> position all of the time.
>>
>> I could import it as a single string into a memo field, but I can't 
>> figure out how to disect a memo field string like that.
>>
>> When I import it as text, I could break it down at the "<" 
>> characters,  importing each one into a separate columns, but I need 
>> them in rows, not columns, to search and find the strings of data I need.
>>
>> So, in summary, my only two choices (that I can think of) are:
>>
>> 1.  Import the XML as a single string into a memo and somehow parse 
>> that into the data I need.
>> 2.  Import the XML as text, separating it on the "<" characters into 
>> columns, then somehow magically (transpose columns into rows?) 
>> transform that to usable information.
>>
>> ANY suggestions, short of retirement (although not a bad idea...), 
>> would be GREATLY apprecaited!
>>
>> Thanks!
>>
>> Greg Smith
>>
>>
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From max at sherman.org.uk  Fri Nov 17 06:34:59 2006
From: max at sherman.org.uk (Max Home)
Date: Fri, 17 Nov 2006 12:34:59 -0000
Subject: [AccessD] Parsing XML as a string?
In-Reply-To: <37260.65.118.249.214.1163691962.squirrel@cetus.email.starband.net>
Message-ID: <002701c70a44$cd50d8b0$8119fea9@Server>

Hi Gregg,

Would this work:  
Application.ImportXML strPath & strFile & strExtn, acStructureAndData

Max


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[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Greg Smith
Sent: Thursday, November 16, 2006 3:46 PM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [AccessD] Parsing XML as a string?

Hi everyone!

Ok...I admit that trying to import that XML file I had directly into
Access may have SEEMED like a good, "easy", idea...at the time...but after
looking around and from the comments here, the idea was...well..it sucked.
 If the XML they were sending to me were compatible then I might have had
a chance...but it's just not feasible.  There actually wasn't any way to
define it using a dtd/xls/xlst within my lifetime, so I'm going to have to
use a different approach.

The files they send as XML are not that large, so I could easily import
them as text, separate out what I need and put it into the required
tables.  However, since they send it as a single string, it becomes harder
to parse it since there are multiple duplicated 'keys' that I need to pull
from it.  And they're not necessarily in the same position all of the
time.

I could import it as a single string into a memo field, but I can't figure
out how to disect a memo field string like that.

When I import it as text, I could break it down at the "<" characters,
importing each one into a separate columns, but I need them in rows, not
columns, to search and find the strings of data I need.

So, in summary, my only two choices (that I can think of) are:

1.  Import the XML as a single string into a memo and somehow parse that
into the data I need.
2.  Import the XML as text, separating it on the "<" characters into
columns, then somehow magically (transpose columns into rows?) transform
that to usable information.

ANY suggestions, short of retirement (although not a bad idea...), would
be GREATLY apprecaited!

Thanks!

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From Johncliviger at aol.com  Fri Nov 17 08:14:09 2006
From: Johncliviger at aol.com (Johncliviger at aol.com)
Date: Fri, 17 Nov 2006 09:14:09 EST
Subject: [AccessD] Connecting Access to SQL tables
Message-ID: <cde.344de61.328f1db1@aol.com>

Salutations
 
 I am proposing to connect Access FE to SQL 2000 tables  which is simple but 
is it wise?
 With say 40/50 users using an Access runtime FE should a prudent  database
developer be connecting directly to tables. What should be  the
strategy in multi-user environment  where data is being  entered and 
modified??

There must be some documentation around on  this subject comments and
links will be thankfully recieved.

TIA
johnc



From Kwilliamson at RTKL.com  Fri Nov 17 08:25:47 2006
From: Kwilliamson at RTKL.com (Keith Williamson)
Date: Fri, 17 Nov 2006 09:25:47 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Connecting Access to SQL tables
Message-ID: <B7450F806572FD4AA30B664E5FE127FB0E8120@sherman.rtkl.rtkl.net>

John,

All I can tell you is that I have done this before, with no problems.  I
had linked tables in my FE, to the SQL database.  Worked Great.

Regards,

Keith E. Williamson | Assist. Controller| kwilliamson at rtkl.com

RTKL Associates Inc. | 901 South Bond Street | Baltimore, Maryland
21231-3305

410-537-6098 direct | 410-276-2136 fax | www.rtkl.com

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Johncliviger at aol.com
Sent: Friday, November 17, 2006 9:14 AM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [AccessD] Connecting Access to SQL tables

Salutations
 
 I am proposing to connect Access FE to SQL 2000 tables  which is simple
but 
is it wise?
 With say 40/50 users using an Access runtime FE should a prudent
database
developer be connecting directly to tables. What should be  the
strategy in multi-user environment  where data is being  entered and 
modified??

There must be some documentation around on  this subject comments and
links will be thankfully recieved.

TIA
johnc

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From mikedorism at verizon.net  Fri Nov 17 08:43:48 2006
From: mikedorism at verizon.net (Doris Manning)
Date: Fri, 17 Nov 2006 09:43:48 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Connecting Access to SQL tables
In-Reply-To: <cde.344de61.328f1db1@aol.com>
Message-ID: <000001c70a56$cb62bf20$2f01a8c0@Kermit>

A prudent database developer would NEVER EVER allow users to connect
directly to the tables.  Everything should be done through stored
procedures.  

Start by reading Rick Dobson's "SQL Server with Access 2000".  Here is a
link to his website http://www.programmingmsaccess.com/

Doris Manning

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Johncliviger at aol.com
Sent: Friday, November 17, 2006 9:14 AM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [AccessD] Connecting Access to SQL tables

Salutations
 
 I am proposing to connect Access FE to SQL 2000 tables  which is simple but

is it wise?
 With say 40/50 users using an Access runtime FE should a prudent  database
developer be connecting directly to tables. What should be  the
strategy in multi-user environment  where data is being  entered and 
modified??

There must be some documentation around on  this subject comments and
links will be thankfully recieved.

TIA
johnc

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From Johncliviger at aol.com  Fri Nov 17 09:08:54 2006
From: Johncliviger at aol.com (Johncliviger at aol.com)
Date: Fri, 17 Nov 2006 10:08:54 EST
Subject: [AccessD] Connecting Access to SQL tables
Message-ID: <585.69367af.328f2a86@aol.com>

 
In a message dated 17/11/2006 14:57:38 GMT Standard Time,  
mikedorism at verizon.net writes:

http://www.programmingmsaccess.com/



Hi Doris
 
Thank you for the comments and link. I had a feeling that allowing users  
direct access to tables was not a good idea. 
 
Thanks Doris 


From artful at rogers.com  Fri Nov 17 09:11:28 2006
From: artful at rogers.com (artful at rogers.com)
Date: Fri, 17 Nov 2006 07:11:28 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [AccessD] Connecting Access to SQL tables
Message-ID: <20061117151128.21031.qmail@web88213.mail.re2.yahoo.com>

I have written extensively on this subject, but so have many others.

Create an Access ADP project and connect it to your SQL 2000 database. This is a much superior strategy than using ODBC connections from an MDB.

Allow no one but yourself (and other db developers if any) direct access to the tables. Instead, create views and/or stored procedures and/or user-defined functions to access the tables. Then think about your app and create some roles corresponding to users and the power they should have (i.e. the lowest level in the hierarchy should probably not have the ability to run a report listing all salaries at all levels). Always think in terms of roles, not users. There is a huge reason for this: you add users to roles, and you can even add roles to roles. I am a big fan of this approach. For example, a sales manager in a pinch may have to do data-entry of sales. So add the SalesManager role to the DataEntry role: then any SalesManager can do both, whereas the DataEntry people cannot.

That's a thumbnail sketch of how to approach this. Basic two rules: nobody but developers gets access to database objects such as tables; roles define the permissions within the org, and users are simply added to roles. That keeps it all lean and mean and easily manageable.

Arthur

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To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Sent: Friday, November 17, 2006 9:14:09 AM
Subject: [AccessD] Connecting Access to SQL tables

Salutations
 
 I am proposing to connect Access FE to SQL 2000 tables  which is simple but 
is it wise?
 With say 40/50 users using an Access runtime FE should a prudent  database
developer be connecting directly to tables. What should be  the
strategy in multi-user environment  where data is being  entered and 
modified??

There must be some documentation around on  this subject comments and
links will be thankfully recieved.

TIA
johnc

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From Johncliviger at aol.com  Fri Nov 17 09:24:33 2006
From: Johncliviger at aol.com (Johncliviger at aol.com)
Date: Fri, 17 Nov 2006 10:24:33 EST
Subject: [AccessD] Connecting Access to SQL tables
Message-ID: <c3b.71ba7b4.328f2e31@aol.com>

 
In a message dated 17/11/2006 15:19:23 GMT Standard Time, artful at rogers.com  
writes:

Arthur



Cheers Arthur for your comments. Where can I find a more detailed  
explanation on a web site?
 
johnc



From bchacc at san.rr.com  Fri Nov 17 11:24:13 2006
From: bchacc at san.rr.com (Beach Access Software)
Date: Fri, 17 Nov 2006 09:24:13 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] FW: [U] Soldier in Iraq needs Access Help
Message-ID: <003201c70a6d$33c351e0$6401a8c0@HAL9005>

Anyone want to tackle this one?  Sounds like an interesting project.

 

Rocky

 

 

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From: Access Users Group of San Diego [mailto:admin at augsd.org] 
Sent: Friday, November 17, 2006 8:59 AM
To: Wayne Warren-Angelucci; Rocky Smolin; Mark J. Krisburg; Joe Anderson;
Dixon Foss; Barry Hynum (E-mail); Mike Dwyer; Ed Lance; Doug Murphy; Dixon
Foss; Jackie Murphy (E-mail)
Subject: FW: [U] Soldier in Iraq needs Access Help

 

 

-----Original Message-----
From: Newsom Lester SFC MNFI STARTEFF
[mailto:lester.newsom at iraq.centcom.mil]
Sent: Wednesday, November 01, 2006 9:12 AM
To: admin at augsd.org
Subject: [U] Soldier in Iraq needs Access Help

Classification: UNCLASSIFIED 

Greetings from Baghdad.

 

I am not one to ask for help until I have absolutely driven myself to the
edge. It is my hope that you or one of your experts can shed some light on
what I am trying to get Access to do.

 

There are actually two things, but first an explanation of what the database
does. A team of translators interpret local Iraqi newscasts which are
transcribed and input into the database. These transcriptions are referred
back to on a regular basis via requests to my office by the higher-ups. A
typical request would be along the lines of "Give me the instances over the
past two weeks Prime Minister Maliki has said he likes the U.S." or, "Give
me every article referring to IED's exploding in the past month"

 

A simple query of course, returns the date range and all articles whereas
the word "Maliki" appears. I am helped by the fact that Maliki does not
appear in the dictionary so I can scan through the articles, deleting those
that are not relevant. I cannot however discern when IED is actually part of
another word. 

 

What I would like to accomplish, is highlighting my text query, much like
Google does in its cached pages. So, those words that I search for are
highlighted, giving me a visual reference. 

 

I have tried constructing a macro to do the action and have also searched
high and low in the Help files and the Internet.. Perhaps this makes perfect
sense to you and you can point me in the right direction.

 

Thank you in advance for your time.

 

SFC Lester Newsom

Baghdad, Iraq

 

 

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From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com  Fri Nov 17 11:26:03 2006
From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (JWColby)
Date: Fri, 17 Nov 2006 12:26:03 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Boot off of D: drive
Message-ID: <00a301c70a6d$758daa80$e1265b05@m6805>

I installed Windows XP onto my server, then discovered I needed a true RAID
controller.  Once that was installed I had this truly reliable (we hope)
raid system.  Now I discovered (thanks to certain listmembers who shall
remain unnamed) that I really needed to move to Windows Server 2003.  Having
this high powered raid system, I decided to install (dual boot) Windows 2003
to the D: drive.  In and of itself this is not a big issue but it does leave
a single (and small - 80gb) non-raid drive sitting at C:, with a full
install (unused) of Windows XP Pro.
 
Is it possible to:
 
1) Get rid of the dual boot so that the system automatically boots into
Server 2003.
2) Get rid of the C: drive and slide a raid drive into it's place.
3) and REALLY reaching here, migrate all the software stored on my D: drive
onto that C: drive.
4) Have it all work when that is done.  ;-)
 
I would be thrilled with 1 and 2, but figured I might as well ask about 3 as
well.
 
John W. Colby
Colby Consulting
www.ColbyConsulting.com
 


From GregSmith at starband.net  Fri Nov 17 11:49:28 2006
From: GregSmith at starband.net (Greg Smith)
Date: Fri, 17 Nov 2006 11:49:28 -0600 (CST)
Subject: [AccessD] Parsing XML as a string?
In-Reply-To: <s55da4c6.006@cactus.dk>
References: <s55da4c6.006@cactus.dk>
Message-ID: <5436.65.118.249.214.1163785768.squirrel@cetus.email.starband.net>

Hi Gustav:

Thanks...I will.  But I'm having an issue getting back to his site he had
in an email yesterday, and I could get to it yesterday, but today it's not
working...at least from the three different computers I tried...two in
house (behind same firewall) and one from a the local County Court
House...all with the same result ... **NEVER MIND** ...it just worked. :)

http://smsconsulting.spb.ru/shamil_s/topics/xmltests.htm

I was also looking at the active-X Chilkat parser you suggested below but
I'm not sure how I'm supposed to use it.

Thanks again!

Greg

> Hi Greg
>
> I would listen closely to the advice from Shamil - manually parsing XML
> is like reinventing the wheel, only much more difficult.
>
> If, for some reason, the Microsoft tools don't fit your task, take a
> look at the free (and very fast) XML parser from Chilkat:
>
>   http://www.chilkatsoft.com/xml-activex.asp
>
> and documentation:
>
>   http://www.chilkatsoft.com/refdoc/xChilkatXmlRef.html
>
> /gustav
<snip>




From Gustav at cactus.dk  Fri Nov 17 12:21:24 2006
From: Gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Fri, 17 Nov 2006 19:21:24 +0100
Subject: [AccessD] Parsing XML as a string?
Message-ID: <s55e0bc6.024@cactus.dk>

Hi Greg

Go to the documentation and pick example code, Visual Basic.
I have not worked with it myself so I cannot be of much help other than this, sorry. However, support at Chilkat is very responsive so don't hesitate asking for assistance.

/gustav

>>> GregSmith at starband.net 17-11-2006 18:49:28 >>>

I was also looking at the active-X Chilkat parser you suggested below but
I'm not sure how I'm supposed to use it.

Thanks again!

Greg

> Hi Greg
>
> I would listen closely to the advice from Shamil - manually parsing XML
> is like reinventing the wheel, only much more difficult.
>
> If, for some reason, the Microsoft tools don't fit your task, take a
> look at the free (and very fast) XML parser from Chilkat:
>
>   http://www.chilkatsoft.com/xml-activex.asp 
>
> and documentation:
>
>   http://www.chilkatsoft.com/refdoc/xChilkatXmlRef.html 
>
> /gustav




From rusty.hammond at cpiqpc.com  Fri Nov 17 13:16:34 2006
From: rusty.hammond at cpiqpc.com (rusty.hammond at cpiqpc.com)
Date: Fri, 17 Nov 2006 13:16:34 -0600
Subject: [AccessD] FW: [U] Soldier in Iraq needs Access Help
Message-ID: <8301C8A868251E4C8ECD3D4FFEA40F8A2584B6EF@cpixchng-1.cpiqpc.net>

Rocky,

These ideas aren't what he's asking for but they might help him speed up his
search a little bit.

To help his search he could in a query put Like "* IED *" in the criteria of
his query.  That should only return those records where IED is surrounded by
spaces on either side thus not being part of another word.

Another option, which isn't as nice as the Google search he refers to, is to
flag each article that has an instance of IED via an update query, export
those flagged records out to a word document via a report, then run Find and
Replace in Word and use the "Highlight All Items Found In" option. I know
this option is found in Word 2003 and not in 97.  I don't about the versions
in between.

HTH,

Rusty


-----Original Message-----
From: Beach Access Software [mailto:bchacc at san.rr.com]
Sent: Friday, November 17, 2006 11:24 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] FW: [U] Soldier in Iraq needs Access Help


Anyone want to tackle this one?  Sounds like an interesting project.

 

Rocky

 

 

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From: Access Users Group of San Diego [mailto:admin at augsd.org] 
Sent: Friday, November 17, 2006 8:59 AM
To: Wayne Warren-Angelucci; Rocky Smolin; Mark J. Krisburg; Joe Anderson;
Dixon Foss; Barry Hynum (E-mail); Mike Dwyer; Ed Lance; Doug Murphy; Dixon
Foss; Jackie Murphy (E-mail)
Subject: FW: [U] Soldier in Iraq needs Access Help

 

 

-----Original Message-----
From: Newsom Lester SFC MNFI STARTEFF
[mailto:lester.newsom at iraq.centcom.mil]
Sent: Wednesday, November 01, 2006 9:12 AM
To: admin at augsd.org
Subject: [U] Soldier in Iraq needs Access Help

Classification: UNCLASSIFIED 

Greetings from Baghdad.

 

I am not one to ask for help until I have absolutely driven myself to the
edge. It is my hope that you or one of your experts can shed some light on
what I am trying to get Access to do.

 

There are actually two things, but first an explanation of what the database
does. A team of translators interpret local Iraqi newscasts which are
transcribed and input into the database. These transcriptions are referred
back to on a regular basis via requests to my office by the higher-ups. A
typical request would be along the lines of "Give me the instances over the
past two weeks Prime Minister Maliki has said he likes the U.S." or, "Give
me every article referring to IED's exploding in the past month"

 

A simple query of course, returns the date range and all articles whereas
the word "Maliki" appears. I am helped by the fact that Maliki does not
appear in the dictionary so I can scan through the articles, deleting those
that are not relevant. I cannot however discern when IED is actually part of
another word. 

 

What I would like to accomplish, is highlighting my text query, much like
Google does in its cached pages. So, those words that I search for are
highlighted, giving me a visual reference. 

 

I have tried constructing a macro to do the action and have also searched
high and low in the Help files and the Internet.. Perhaps this makes perfect
sense to you and you can point me in the right direction.

 

Thank you in advance for your time.

 

SFC Lester Newsom

Baghdad, Iraq

 

 

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From Jim.Hale at FleetPride.com  Fri Nov 17 13:20:53 2006
From: Jim.Hale at FleetPride.com (Hale, Jim)
Date: Fri, 17 Nov 2006 13:20:53 -0600
Subject: [AccessD] FW: [U] Soldier in Iraq needs Access Help
Message-ID: <6A6AA9DF57E4F046BDA1E273BDDB67727DE11B@corp-es01.fleetpride.com>

The FMS Visual sourcebook has two classes (CBoyerMoore and
CFuzzystringsearch) that may accomplish the objective. Actually, if this
solder contacts Luke Chung at FMS he may be able to get exactly the help he
needs. 
Jim Hale

-----Original Message-----
From: Beach Access Software [mailto:bchacc at san.rr.com]
Sent: Friday, November 17, 2006 11:24 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] FW: [U] Soldier in Iraq needs Access Help


Anyone want to tackle this one?  Sounds like an interesting project.

 

Rocky

 

 

  _____  

From: Access Users Group of San Diego [mailto:admin at augsd.org] 
Sent: Friday, November 17, 2006 8:59 AM
To: Wayne Warren-Angelucci; Rocky Smolin; Mark J. Krisburg; Joe Anderson;
Dixon Foss; Barry Hynum (E-mail); Mike Dwyer; Ed Lance; Doug Murphy; Dixon
Foss; Jackie Murphy (E-mail)
Subject: FW: [U] Soldier in Iraq needs Access Help

 

 

-----Original Message-----
From: Newsom Lester SFC MNFI STARTEFF
[mailto:lester.newsom at iraq.centcom.mil]
Sent: Wednesday, November 01, 2006 9:12 AM
To: admin at augsd.org
Subject: [U] Soldier in Iraq needs Access Help

Classification: UNCLASSIFIED 

Greetings from Baghdad.

 

I am not one to ask for help until I have absolutely driven myself to the
edge. It is my hope that you or one of your experts can shed some light on
what I am trying to get Access to do.

 

There are actually two things, but first an explanation of what the database
does. A team of translators interpret local Iraqi newscasts which are
transcribed and input into the database. These transcriptions are referred
back to on a regular basis via requests to my office by the higher-ups. A
typical request would be along the lines of "Give me the instances over the
past two weeks Prime Minister Maliki has said he likes the U.S." or, "Give
me every article referring to IED's exploding in the past month"

 

A simple query of course, returns the date range and all articles whereas
the word "Maliki" appears. I am helped by the fact that Maliki does not
appear in the dictionary so I can scan through the articles, deleting those
that are not relevant. I cannot however discern when IED is actually part of
another word. 

 

What I would like to accomplish, is highlighting my text query, much like
Google does in its cached pages. So, those words that I search for are
highlighted, giving me a visual reference. 

 

I have tried constructing a macro to do the action and have also searched
high and low in the Help files and the Internet.. Perhaps this makes perfect
sense to you and you can point me in the right direction.

 

Thank you in advance for your time.

 

SFC Lester Newsom

Baghdad, Iraq

 

 

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From: john at winhaven.net (John Bartow)
Date: Fri, 17 Nov 2006 13:32:09 -0600
Subject: [AccessD] Simplify String Concatenations with Nulls and Zero Length
	String
Message-ID: <200611171932.kAHJWGq09711@databaseadvisors.com>

This tip just came through from FMS in their newsletter. Nothin gnew since
I've been using it for near a decade now but I just wanted to get thoughts
on it here. Anyone take issue with this method?

John B.

Tip #49: Simplify String Concatenations with Nulls and Zero Length Strings
Provided by: Luke Chung, FMS President

The concatenation of string values can be a nuisance when referencing fields
with Null values, because you want to avoid having extra spaces where the
missing string value should have appeared. 

A classic example of this is a person's name and their spouse. You want to
add the " and Spouse" to the name if the Spouse field is filled.

Here's the data:

PersonID	 FirstName	 LastName	 Spouse	
1	 Robert	 Jones	  	
2	 Thomas	 Smith	 Jane	
3	 Jack	 Thompson	 Sally	
4	 William	 Johnson	  	

And the results we want:

PersonID	 Person	
1	 Robert Jones	
2	 Thomas and Jane Smith	
3	 Jack and Sally Thompson	
4	 William Johnson	

Zero Length Strings Allowed


If the Spouse field allows zero length string values ("") -- its
AllowZeroLength property is True, you need to consider both Nulls and "".
You should use the NullToZero function NZ, to handle either case:

SELECT PersonID, FirstName & IIF(Nz(Spouse)<>"", " & " & Spouse) & " " &
LastName AS Person
FROM tblPerson

The NZ function evaluates the value it is passed. For text fields, it
returns "" if it's null or "". For numeric and dates fields, it returns zero
if it's null. This makes it easy to handle nulls in either case.


Zero Length Strings Not Allowed


If the Spouse field does not allow zero length strings, blank values are
always null. In this situation, we can avoid using a user-defined/built-in
function to test for null. The concatenation of a string value and a null
value will return a null value. Thus, you eliminate the extra processing
needed:

SELECT PersonID, FirstName & (" and " + Spouse) & " " & LastName AS Person
FROM tblPerson

By using the "+" command to combine the " and " and [Spouse] fields, the
result is nothing if the Spouse field is null. This is a difference from
using the "&" command which concatenates fields and would leave the " and "
if Spouse is null.




From DWUTKA at marlow.com  Fri Nov 17 13:29:10 2006
From: DWUTKA at marlow.com (DWUTKA at marlow.com)
Date: Fri, 17 Nov 2006 13:29:10 -0600
Subject: [AccessD] FW: [U] Soldier in Iraq needs Access Help
Message-ID: <17724746D360394AA3BFE5B8D40A9C1B014B18AF@MARLOW_MAIN2.marlow.com>

If the results are displayed on a web page the highlighting would be a snap!

Drew

-----Original Message-----
From: Beach Access Software [mailto:bchacc at san.rr.com] 
Sent: Friday, November 17, 2006 11:24 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] FW: [U] Soldier in Iraq needs Access Help

Anyone want to tackle this one?  Sounds like an interesting project.

 

Rocky

 

 

  _____  

From: Access Users Group of San Diego [mailto:admin at augsd.org] 
Sent: Friday, November 17, 2006 8:59 AM
To: Wayne Warren-Angelucci; Rocky Smolin; Mark J. Krisburg; Joe Anderson;
Dixon Foss; Barry Hynum (E-mail); Mike Dwyer; Ed Lance; Doug Murphy; Dixon
Foss; Jackie Murphy (E-mail)
Subject: FW: [U] Soldier in Iraq needs Access Help

 

 

-----Original Message-----
From: Newsom Lester SFC MNFI STARTEFF
[mailto:lester.newsom at iraq.centcom.mil]
Sent: Wednesday, November 01, 2006 9:12 AM
To: admin at augsd.org
Subject: [U] Soldier in Iraq needs Access Help

Classification: UNCLASSIFIED 

Greetings from Baghdad.

 

I am not one to ask for help until I have absolutely driven myself to the
edge. It is my hope that you or one of your experts can shed some light on
what I am trying to get Access to do.

 

There are actually two things, but first an explanation of what the database
does. A team of translators interpret local Iraqi newscasts which are
transcribed and input into the database. These transcriptions are referred
back to on a regular basis via requests to my office by the higher-ups. A
typical request would be along the lines of "Give me the instances over the
past two weeks Prime Minister Maliki has said he likes the U.S." or, "Give
me every article referring to IED's exploding in the past month"

 

A simple query of course, returns the date range and all articles whereas
the word "Maliki" appears. I am helped by the fact that Maliki does not
appear in the dictionary so I can scan through the articles, deleting those
that are not relevant. I cannot however discern when IED is actually part of
another word. 

 

What I would like to accomplish, is highlighting my text query, much like
Google does in its cached pages. So, those words that I search for are
highlighted, giving me a visual reference. 

 

I have tried constructing a macro to do the action and have also searched
high and low in the Help files and the Internet.. Perhaps this makes perfect
sense to you and you can point me in the right direction.

 

Thank you in advance for your time.

 

SFC Lester Newsom

Baghdad, Iraq

 

 

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From shamil at users.mns.ru  Fri Nov 17 13:43:38 2006
From: shamil at users.mns.ru (Shamil Salakhetdinov)
Date: Fri, 17 Nov 2006 22:43:38 +0300
Subject: [AccessD] Parsing XML as a string?
In-Reply-To: <5436.65.118.249.214.1163785768.squirrel@cetus.email.starband.net>
Message-ID: <001601c70a80$ae0e68a0$6401a8c0@nant>

Greg,

Please send me your e-mail address and I will send you this page by e-mail
privately. (This page
http://smsconsulting.spb.ru/shamil_s/topics/xmltests.htm works from here,
sorry, if it doesn't work there. That's strange...)

--
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-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Greg Smith
Sent: Friday, November 17, 2006 8:49 PM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Parsing XML as a string?

Hi Gustav:

Thanks...I will.  But I'm having an issue getting back to his site he had
in an email yesterday, and I could get to it yesterday, but today it's not
working...at least from the three different computers I tried...two in
house (behind same firewall) and one from a the local County Court
House...all with the same result ... **NEVER MIND** ...it just worked. :)

http://smsconsulting.spb.ru/shamil_s/topics/xmltests.htm

I was also looking at the active-X Chilkat parser you suggested below but
I'm not sure how I'm supposed to use it.

Thanks again!

Greg

> Hi Greg
>
> I would listen closely to the advice from Shamil - manually parsing XML
> is like reinventing the wheel, only much more difficult.
>
> If, for some reason, the Microsoft tools don't fit your task, take a
> look at the free (and very fast) XML parser from Chilkat:
>
>   http://www.chilkatsoft.com/xml-activex.asp
>
> and documentation:
>
>   http://www.chilkatsoft.com/refdoc/xChilkatXmlRef.html
>
> /gustav
<snip>


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From pedro at plex.nl  Fri Nov 17 15:14:36 2006
From: pedro at plex.nl (Pedro Janssen)
Date: Fri, 17 Nov 2006 22:14:36 +0100
Subject: [AccessD] help with cascade combobox
Message-ID: <002b01c70a8d$62a9cc30$4001a8c0@qmotionfaa3ad9>

Hello Group,

i need some help with an cascade combobox, the storage of the data in a table.

I have a small example database, who can help me with this?

Thanks Pedro Janssen

From martyconnelly at shaw.ca  Fri Nov 17 16:32:44 2006
From: martyconnelly at shaw.ca (MartyConnelly)
Date: Fri, 17 Nov 2006 14:32:44 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] help with cascade combobox
In-Reply-To: <002b01c70a8d$62a9cc30$4001a8c0@qmotionfaa3ad9>
References: <002b01c70a8d$62a9cc30$4001a8c0@qmotionfaa3ad9>
Message-ID: <455E388C.8030004@shaw.ca>

Maybe these examples will help
http://www.rogersaccesslibrary.com/TableOfContents3.asp

CascadingComboBoxes.mdb ( beginner )
This sample illustrates how to restrict the value of one combo box based 
on the value of another.

CascadingComboInSubform.mdb ( intermediate )
Illustrates how to use Cascading Comboboxes in a continuous subform.
 

Pedro Janssen wrote:

>Hello Group,
>
>i need some help with an cascade combobox, the storage of the data in a table.
>
>I have a small example database, who can help me with this?
>
>Thanks Pedro Janssen
>  
>

-- 
Marty Connelly
Victoria, B.C.
Canada



From pedro at plex.nl  Fri Nov 17 17:56:05 2006
From: pedro at plex.nl (Pedro Janssen)
Date: Sat, 18 Nov 2006 00:56:05 +0100
Subject: [AccessD] help with cascade combobox
References: <002b01c70a8d$62a9cc30$4001a8c0@qmotionfaa3ad9>
	<455E388C.8030004@shaw.ca>
Message-ID: <000401c70aa3$f20e29f0$4001a8c0@qmotionfaa3ad9>

Thanks Marty,

Making the cascade comboboxes is no problem, but storing the data in a table 
is the problem.
Is there an easier way to do this then the example in the second example 
that you refered to.

Pedro Janssen



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From: "MartyConnelly" <martyconnelly at shaw.ca>
To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving" 
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Friday, November 17, 2006 11:32 PM
Subject: Re: [AccessD] help with cascade combobox


> Maybe these examples will help
> http://www.rogersaccesslibrary.com/TableOfContents3.asp
>
> CascadingComboBoxes.mdb ( beginner )
> This sample illustrates how to restrict the value of one combo box based
> on the value of another.
>
> CascadingComboInSubform.mdb ( intermediate )
> Illustrates how to use Cascading Comboboxes in a continuous subform.
>
>
> Pedro Janssen wrote:
>
>>Hello Group,
>>
>>i need some help with an cascade combobox, the storage of the data in a 
>>table.
>>
>>I have a small example database, who can help me with this?
>>
>>Thanks Pedro Janssen
>>
>>
>
> -- 
> Marty Connelly
> Victoria, B.C.
> Canada
>
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> 



From martyconnelly at shaw.ca  Fri Nov 17 21:03:58 2006
From: martyconnelly at shaw.ca (MartyConnelly)
Date: Fri, 17 Nov 2006 19:03:58 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] help with cascade combobox
In-Reply-To: <000401c70aa3$f20e29f0$4001a8c0@qmotionfaa3ad9>
References: <002b01c70a8d$62a9cc30$4001a8c0@qmotionfaa3ad9>
	<455E388C.8030004@shaw.ca>
	<000401c70aa3$f20e29f0$4001a8c0@qmotionfaa3ad9>
Message-ID: <455E781E.5080102@shaw.ca>


How about something simple like
    Dim dbs As Database

    ' Modify this line to include the path to Northwind
    ' on your computer.
    Set dbs = OpenDatabase("Northwind.mdb")
   
    ' Create a new record in the Employees table. The
    ' first name is Harry, the last name is Washington,
    ' and the job title is Trainee.
    dbs.Execute " INSERT INTO Employees " _
        & "(FirstName,LastName, Title) VALUES " _
        & "('Harry', 'Washington', 'Trainee');"
       
    dbs.Close

You could ask a question like this to append records to a table or start 
with empty  table

If MsgBox("Do you want to create a new file table (yes: create, no: 
append)", vbYesNo) = vbYes Then
    DoCmd.RunSQL "DELETE DISTINCTROW Employees.FirstName FROM Employees;"
End If

Pedro Janssen wrote:

>Thanks Marty,
>
>Making the cascade comboboxes is no problem, but storing the data in a table 
>is the problem.
>Is there an easier way to do this then the example in the second example 
>that you refered to.
>
>Pedro Janssen
>
>
>
>----- Original Message ----- 
>From: "MartyConnelly" <martyconnelly at shaw.ca>
>To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving" 
><accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
>Sent: Friday, November 17, 2006 11:32 PM
>Subject: Re: [AccessD] help with cascade combobox
>
>
>  
>
>>Maybe these examples will help
>>http://www.rogersaccesslibrary.com/TableOfContents3.asp
>>
>>CascadingComboBoxes.mdb ( beginner )
>>This sample illustrates how to restrict the value of one combo box based
>>on the value of another.
>>
>>CascadingComboInSubform.mdb ( intermediate )
>>Illustrates how to use Cascading Comboboxes in a continuous subform.
>>
>>
>>Pedro Janssen wrote:
>>
>>    
>>
>>>Hello Group,
>>>
>>>i need some help with an cascade combobox, the storage of the data in a 
>>>table.
>>>
>>>I have a small example database, who can help me with this?
>>>
>>>Thanks Pedro Janssen
>>>
>>>
>>>      
>>>
>>-- 
>>Marty Connelly
>>Victoria, B.C.
>>Canada
>>
>>-- 
>>AccessD mailing list
>>AccessD at databaseadvisors.com
>>http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd
>>Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com
>>
>>    
>>
>
>  
>

-- 
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Victoria, B.C.
Canada



From robert at servicexp.com  Sun Nov 19 12:39:15 2006
From: robert at servicexp.com (Robert)
Date: Sun, 19 Nov 2006 13:39:15 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Connection String syntax
In-Reply-To: <455E781E.5080102@shaw.ca>
Message-ID: <000001c70c0a$0ee5dca0$dcc05005@roberts>


What is the correct syntax when opening from within a FE/BE MS Access when
user security has been moved to a difference, non system, .mdw?

This does not seem to do it..

"PROVIDER=Microsoft.Jet.OLEDB.4.0;DATA SOURCE=CurrentProject.Path &
FEDBName;User Id=administrator; Password=adminpassword"

Thanks 

Robert



From Gustav at cactus.dk  Sun Nov 19 13:04:35 2006
From: Gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Sun, 19 Nov 2006 20:04:35 +0100
Subject: [AccessD] Connection String syntax
Message-ID: <s560b8f1.030@cactus.dk>

Hi Robert

Drew posted this in Sep. 2003 which seems close to what you request:

<quote>


Function fDatabaseConnection(CurrCnn As ADODB.Connection, UserName As
String, PassWord As String)
Set CurrCnn = New ADODB.Connection
With CurrCnn
    .Provider = "Microsoft.Jet.OLEDB.4.0"
    .Properties("Jet OLEDB:System database").Value =
"T:\AccessDB\ISReq\Marlow1.mdw"
    .Open "T:\AccessDB\ISReq\ISReqBE.mdb", UserName, PassWord
End With
End Function

To use the function above, here's an example:

Dim cnn as ADODB.Connection
Dim rs as ADODB.Recordset
Dim strSQL as String
fDatabaseConnection cnn,"UserName","Password"
Set rs=new ADODB.recordset
strSQL="Select * From tblData;"
rs.open strSQL,cnn,adOpenKeyset,adLockReadOnly
if rs.EOF=false then rs.MoveFirst
Do until rs.EOF=True
	'Do something
	rs.MoveNext
Loop
rs.Close
Set rs=nothing
cnn.Close
set cnn=Nothing

Just a little sample code.  I know this code uses ADO, which is the default
in A2k, but in A97, DAO is default.  DAO is the native language for Jet
databases, but I find that ADO is FAR more flexible.  I can write code for
connecting to an Access database, and later on, if I change the data source,
I just have to modify the connection routine.

Drew

</quote>

/gustav

>>> robert at servicexp.com 19-11-2006 19:39:15 >>>

What is the correct syntax when opening from within a FE/BE MS Access when
user security has been moved to a difference, non system, .mdw?

This does not seem to do it..

"PROVIDER=Microsoft.Jet.OLEDB.4.0;DATA SOURCE=CurrentProject.Path &
FEDBName;User Id=administrator; Password=adminpassword"

Thanks 

Robert




From martyconnelly at shaw.ca  Sun Nov 19 13:29:04 2006
From: martyconnelly at shaw.ca (MartyConnelly)
Date: Sun, 19 Nov 2006 11:29:04 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] Connection String syntax
In-Reply-To: <000001c70c0a$0ee5dca0$dcc05005@roberts>
References: <000001c70c0a$0ee5dca0$dcc05005@roberts>
Message-ID: <4560B080.2040000@shaw.ca>

Carl Prothman has a site that provides ADO connection strings for a
wide variety  of databases and providers. Even though he has
switched over to the dark side.

http://www.carlprothman.net/Default.aspx?tabid=87#OLEDBProviderForMicrosoftJet

If using a Workgroup (System Database)

oConn.Open "Provider=Microsoft.Jet.OLEDB.4.0;" & _
           "Data Source=c:\somepath\mydb.mdb;" & _
           "Jet OLEDB:System Database=MySystem.mdw", _
           "myUsername", "myPassword"


Robert wrote:

>What is the correct syntax when opening from within a FE/BE MS Access when
>user security has been moved to a difference, non system, .mdw?
>
>This does not seem to do it..
>
>"PROVIDER=Microsoft.Jet.OLEDB.4.0;DATA SOURCE=CurrentProject.Path &
>FEDBName;User Id=administrator; Password=adminpassword"
>
>Thanks 
>
>Robert
>
>  
>

-- 
Marty Connelly
Victoria, B.C.
Canada



From ssharkins at setel.com  Sun Nov 19 13:38:27 2006
From: ssharkins at setel.com (ssharkins at setel.com)
Date: Sun, 19 Nov 2006 14:38:27 -0500 (EST)
Subject: [AccessD] Connection String syntax
In-Reply-To: <4560B080.2040000@shaw.ca>
References: <000001c70c0a$0ee5dca0$dcc05005@roberts> <4560B080.2040000@shaw.ca>
Message-ID: <1598.209.42.188.17.1163965107.squirrel@vmail.setel.com>

YOu can use Windows to create most connection strings -- I wonder if that
technique would apply here too?

Susan H.


 Carl Prothman has a site that provides ADO connection strings for a
> wide variety  of databases and providers. Even though he has
> switched over to the dark side.
>
> http://www.carlprothman.net/Default.aspx?tabid=87#OLEDBProviderForMicrosoftJet
>
> If using a Workgroup (System Database)
>
> oConn.Open "Provider=Microsoft.Jet.OLEDB.4.0;" & _
>            "Data Source=c:\somepath\mydb.mdb;" & _
>            "Jet OLEDB:System Database=MySystem.mdw", _
>            "myUsername", "myPassword"
>
>



From mwp.reid at qub.ac.uk  Sun Nov 19 14:46:44 2006
From: mwp.reid at qub.ac.uk (Martin Reid)
Date: Sun, 19 Nov 2006 20:46:44 -0000
Subject: [AccessD] Connection String syntax
References: <000001c70c0a$0ee5dca0$dcc05005@roberts> <4560B080.2040000@shaw.ca>
	<1598.209.42.188.17.1163965107.squirrel@vmail.setel.com>
Message-ID: <D0BF9C78D1C45C418541C852C8944FE2010861B6@qub-xchange-01.ads.qub.ac.uk>

funny I have never been able to get windows to do that. Creating the text file then changing the name and then using that to create the connection. Never works for me.
 
Maritn
 
Martin WP Reid
Training and Assessment Unit
Riddle Hall
Belfast
 
tel: 02890 974477
 

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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com on behalf of ssharkins at setel.com
Sent: Sun 19/11/2006 19:38
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Connection String syntax



YOu can use Windows to create most connection strings -- I wonder if that
technique would apply here too?

Susan H.


 Carl Prothman has a site that provides ADO connection strings for a
> wide variety  of databases and providers. Even though he has
> switched over to the dark side.
>
> http://www.carlprothman.net/Default.aspx?tabid=87#OLEDBProviderForMicrosoftJet
>
> If using a Workgroup (System Database)
>
> oConn.Open "Provider=Microsoft.Jet.OLEDB.4.0;" & _
>            "Data Source=c:\somepath\mydb.mdb;" & _
>            "Jet OLEDB:System Database=MySystem.mdw", _
>            "myUsername", "myPassword"
>
>

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From ssharkins at setel.com  Sun Nov 19 15:14:01 2006
From: ssharkins at setel.com (ssharkins at setel.com)
Date: Sun, 19 Nov 2006 16:14:01 -0500 (EST)
Subject: [AccessD] Connection String syntax
In-Reply-To: <D0BF9C78D1C45C418541C852C8944FE2010861B6@qub-xchange-01.ads.qub.ac.uk
	>
References: <000001c70c0a$0ee5dca0$dcc05005@roberts> <4560B080.2040000@shaw.ca>
	<1598.209.42.188.17.1163965107.squirrel@vmail.setel.com>
	<D0BF9C78D1C45C418541C852C8944FE2010861B6@qub-xchange-01.ads.qub.ac.uk>
Message-ID: <1673.209.42.184.169.1163970841.squirrel@vmail.setel.com>

> funny I have never been able to get windows to do that. Creating the text
> file then changing the name and then using that to create the connection.
> Never works for me.

=======I don't think we're talking about the same thing -- I'll have to
look up the article, but seems like you can capture the connection
arguments from a Windows property.

Susan H.



From robert at servicexp.com  Sun Nov 19 16:44:30 2006
From: robert at servicexp.com (Robert)
Date: Sun, 19 Nov 2006 17:44:30 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Connection String syntax
In-Reply-To: <4560B080.2040000@shaw.ca>
Message-ID: <000c01c70c2c$48e6d450$dcc05005@roberts>

Thanks A Million !

Happy Holidays!!

Robert 

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of MartyConnelly
Sent: Sunday, November 19, 2006 2:29 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Connection String syntax

Carl Prothman has a site that provides ADO connection strings for a wide
variety  of databases and providers. Even though he has switched over to the
dark side.

http://www.carlprothman.net/Default.aspx?tabid=87#OLEDBProviderForMicrosoftJ
et

If using a Workgroup (System Database)

oConn.Open "Provider=Microsoft.Jet.OLEDB.4.0;" & _
           "Data Source=c:\somepath\mydb.mdb;" & _
           "Jet OLEDB:System Database=MySystem.mdw", _
           "myUsername", "myPassword"


Robert wrote:

>What is the correct syntax when opening from within a FE/BE MS Access 
>when user security has been moved to a difference, non system, .mdw?
>
>This does not seem to do it..
>
>"PROVIDER=Microsoft.Jet.OLEDB.4.0;DATA SOURCE=CurrentProject.Path & 
>FEDBName;User Id=administrator; Password=adminpassword"
>
>Thanks
>
>Robert
>
>  
>

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Canada

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From bheid at sc.rr.com  Sun Nov 19 20:16:05 2006
From: bheid at sc.rr.com (Bobby Heid)
Date: Sun, 19 Nov 2006 21:16:05 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] FW: [U] Soldier in Iraq needs Access Help
In-Reply-To: <8301C8A868251E4C8ECD3D4FFEA40F8A2584B6EF@cpixchng-1.cpiqpc.net>
Message-ID: <000601c70c49$d601b310$2d01a8c0@bhxp>

Rusty,

The only problem with this is IED is at the start of a sentence or is
followed by a period, commas, etc.

Bobby 

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of
rusty.hammond at cpiqpc.com
Sent: Friday, November 17, 2006 2:17 PM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: Re: [AccessD] FW: [U] Soldier in Iraq needs Access Help

Rocky,

These ideas aren't what he's asking for but they might help him speed up his
search a little bit.

To help his search he could in a query put Like "* IED *" in the criteria of
his query.  That should only return those records where IED is surrounded by
spaces on either side thus not being part of another word.

Another option, which isn't as nice as the Google search he refers to, is to
flag each article that has an instance of IED via an update query, export
those flagged records out to a word document via a report, then run Find and
Replace in Word and use the "Highlight All Items Found In" option. I know
this option is found in Word 2003 and not in 97.  I don't about the versions
in between.

HTH,

Rusty


-----Original Message-----
From: Beach Access Software [mailto:bchacc at san.rr.com]
Sent: Friday, November 17, 2006 11:24 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] FW: [U] Soldier in Iraq needs Access Help


Anyone want to tackle this one?  Sounds like an interesting project.

 

Rocky

 

 

  _____  

From: Access Users Group of San Diego [mailto:admin at augsd.org] 
Sent: Friday, November 17, 2006 8:59 AM
To: Wayne Warren-Angelucci; Rocky Smolin; Mark J. Krisburg; Joe Anderson;
Dixon Foss; Barry Hynum (E-mail); Mike Dwyer; Ed Lance; Doug Murphy; Dixon
Foss; Jackie Murphy (E-mail)
Subject: FW: [U] Soldier in Iraq needs Access Help

 

 

-----Original Message-----
From: Newsom Lester SFC MNFI STARTEFF
[mailto:lester.newsom at iraq.centcom.mil]
Sent: Wednesday, November 01, 2006 9:12 AM
To: admin at augsd.org
Subject: [U] Soldier in Iraq needs Access Help

Classification: UNCLASSIFIED 

Greetings from Baghdad.

 

I am not one to ask for help until I have absolutely driven myself to the
edge. It is my hope that you or one of your experts can shed some light on
what I am trying to get Access to do.

 

There are actually two things, but first an explanation of what the database
does. A team of translators interpret local Iraqi newscasts which are
transcribed and input into the database. These transcriptions are referred
back to on a regular basis via requests to my office by the higher-ups. A
typical request would be along the lines of "Give me the instances over the
past two weeks Prime Minister Maliki has said he likes the U.S." or, "Give
me every article referring to IED's exploding in the past month"

 

A simple query of course, returns the date range and all articles whereas
the word "Maliki" appears. I am helped by the fact that Maliki does not
appear in the dictionary so I can scan through the articles, deleting those
that are not relevant. I cannot however discern when IED is actually part of
another word. 

 

What I would like to accomplish, is highlighting my text query, much like
Google does in its cached pages. So, those words that I search for are
highlighted, giving me a visual reference. 

 

I have tried constructing a macro to do the action and have also searched
high and low in the Help files and the Internet.. Perhaps this makes perfect
sense to you and you can point me in the right direction.

 

Thank you in advance for your time.

 

SFC Lester Newsom

Baghdad, Iraq



From rusty.hammond at cpiqpc.com  Sun Nov 19 21:18:02 2006
From: rusty.hammond at cpiqpc.com (rusty.hammond at cpiqpc.com)
Date: Sun, 19 Nov 2006 21:18:02 -0600
Subject: [AccessD] FW: [U] Soldier in Iraq needs Access Help
Message-ID: <8301C8A868251E4C8ECD3D4FFEA40F8A2584B6F8@cpixchng-1.cpiqpc.net>

Good point.  Hmmm, I wonder if there is a way to do what he wants in Access?



-----Original Message-----
From: Bobby Heid [mailto:bheid at sc.rr.com]
Sent: Sunday, November 19, 2006 8:16 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: Re: [AccessD] FW: [U] Soldier in Iraq needs Access Help


Rusty,

The only problem with this is IED is at the start of a sentence or is
followed by a period, commas, etc.

Bobby 

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of
rusty.hammond at cpiqpc.com
Sent: Friday, November 17, 2006 2:17 PM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: Re: [AccessD] FW: [U] Soldier in Iraq needs Access Help

Rocky,

These ideas aren't what he's asking for but they might help him speed up his
search a little bit.

To help his search he could in a query put Like "* IED *" in the criteria of
his query.  That should only return those records where IED is surrounded by
spaces on either side thus not being part of another word.

Another option, which isn't as nice as the Google search he refers to, is to
flag each article that has an instance of IED via an update query, export
those flagged records out to a word document via a report, then run Find and
Replace in Word and use the "Highlight All Items Found In" option. I know
this option is found in Word 2003 and not in 97.  I don't about the versions
in between.

HTH,

Rusty



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From dwaters at usinternet.com  Sun Nov 19 22:36:57 2006
From: dwaters at usinternet.com (Dan Waters)
Date: Sun, 19 Nov 2006 22:36:57 -0600
Subject: [AccessD] FW: [U] Soldier in Iraq needs Access Help
In-Reply-To: <7479825.1163989146973.JavaMail.root@sniper44>
Message-ID: <001101c70c5d$838ee3a0$0200a8c0@danwaters>

How about  

LIKE "*IED*"  ----------  or more generically:  LIKE "*" & txtCriteria & "*"

instead of

LIKE "* IED *"  (leave out the spaces)

I do this in some queries and it picks things up at the beginning, middle,
or end.

Dan Waters



-----Original Message-----
Subject: Re: [AccessD] FW: [U] Soldier in Iraq needs Access Help

Rusty,

The only problem with this is IED is at the start of a sentence or is
followed by a period, commas, etc.

Bobby 

-----Original Message-----
Subject: Re: [AccessD] FW: [U] Soldier in Iraq needs Access Help

Rocky,

These ideas aren't what he's asking for but they might help him speed up his
search a little bit.

To help his search he could in a query put Like "* IED *" in the criteria of
his query.  That should only return those records where IED is surrounded by
spaces on either side thus not being part of another word.

Another option, which isn't as nice as the Google search he refers to, is to
flag each article that has an instance of IED via an update query, export
those flagged records out to a word document via a report, then run Find and
Replace in Word and use the "Highlight All Items Found In" option. I know
this option is found in Word 2003 and not in 97.  I don't about the versions
in between.

HTH,

Rusty


-----Original Message-----
Subject: [AccessD] FW: [U] Soldier in Iraq needs Access Help


Anyone want to tackle this one?  Sounds like an interesting project.

 

Rocky

 

 

Subject: [U] Soldier in Iraq needs Access Help

Classification: UNCLASSIFIED 

Greetings from Baghdad.

 

I am not one to ask for help until I have absolutely driven myself to the
edge. It is my hope that you or one of your experts can shed some light on
what I am trying to get Access to do.

 

There are actually two things, but first an explanation of what the database
does. A team of translators interpret local Iraqi newscasts which are
transcribed and input into the database. These transcriptions are referred
back to on a regular basis via requests to my office by the higher-ups. A
typical request would be along the lines of "Give me the instances over the
past two weeks Prime Minister Maliki has said he likes the U.S." or, "Give
me every article referring to IED's exploding in the past month"

 

A simple query of course, returns the date range and all articles whereas
the word "Maliki" appears. I am helped by the fact that Maliki does not
appear in the dictionary so I can scan through the articles, deleting those
that are not relevant. I cannot however discern when IED is actually part of
another word. 

 

What I would like to accomplish, is highlighting my text query, much like
Google does in its cached pages. So, those words that I search for are
highlighted, giving me a visual reference. 

 

I have tried constructing a macro to do the action and have also searched
high and low in the Help files and the Internet.. Perhaps this makes perfect
sense to you and you can point me in the right direction.

 

Thank you in advance for your time.

 

SFC Lester Newsom

Baghdad, Iraq




From dwaters at usinternet.com  Sun Nov 19 22:39:26 2006
From: dwaters at usinternet.com (Dan Waters)
Date: Sun, 19 Nov 2006 22:39:26 -0600
Subject: [AccessD] Send an Outlook Meeting Invitation
Message-ID: <001201c70c5d$dc5924f0$0200a8c0@danwaters>

Has anyone used Access to send out an Outlook Meeting Invitation?

Or know where I could go to find out how?

Thanks!
Dan Waters



From stuart at lexacorp.com.pg  Sun Nov 19 23:58:40 2006
From: stuart at lexacorp.com.pg (Stuart McLachlan)
Date: Mon, 20 Nov 2006 15:58:40 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] FW: [U] Soldier in Iraq needs Access Help
In-Reply-To: <001101c70c5d$838ee3a0$0200a8c0@danwaters>
References: <7479825.1163989146973.JavaMail.root@sniper44>,
	<001101c70c5d$838ee3a0$0200a8c0@danwaters>
Message-ID: <4561D0B0.25840.8ADDC19C@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>

On 19 Nov 2006 at 22:36, Dan Waters wrote:

> How about  
> 
> LIKE "*IED*"  ----------  or more generically:  LIKE "*" & txtCriteria & "*"
> 
> instead of
> 
> LIKE "* IED *"  (leave out the spaces)
> 

That will pick up anything from  died to antieducational ( and the hundreds of others at 
http://www.morewords.com/contains-by-length/ied/ <g>)

To find text containing IED as a word by itself you need something similar to 

LIKE "*[( "]IED[ ).,:;?]*"
or
LIKE "IED[ ).,:;?]*"
or
LIKE Chr$(13) & chr$(10) & "IED[ ).,:;?]*"
or
LIKE "* IED"


Actually it would probably be a lot easier to add a reference "Microsoft VBScript Regular Expresssion 5.x"
and build a function using a proper Regex to locate text blocks containing the desired targets.







From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com  Mon Nov 20 06:01:24 2006
From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (JWColby)
Date: Mon, 20 Nov 2006 07:01:24 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Create object
Message-ID: <001d01c70c9b$9aa61bb0$657aa8c0@m6805>

I am trying to open multiple instances of 3DFTP and assign each instance to
a different class instance inside of Access.  When I use the syntax:
 
'
'In class header
'
Private mFtpXObj As Object ' FtpXObj

    '
    'In init function
    '
    'Start 3D-FTP loading, if not already running
    Set mFtpXObj = CreateObject("FTP.API")

The first class instance correctly opens 3DFTP but the second class instance
does not, it simply gets a pointer to the already opened 3DFTP instance.
 
AFAIK I can't use the NEW() syntax since I don't have early binding, IOW I
don't have a clue what FTP.API actually is and therefore can't reference it
in Access.  According to the help file, CreateObject is supposed to open a
new instance of the object anyway so I really should be able to do this.
 
Any thoughts?
 
John W. Colby
Colby Consulting
www.ColbyConsulting.com
 


From Gustav at cactus.dk  Mon Nov 20 06:21:48 2006
From: Gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Mon, 20 Nov 2006 13:21:48 +0100
Subject: [AccessD] Create object
Message-ID: <s561abfe.039@cactus.dk>

Hi John

I have no solution for you, but why not address support at support at sitedesigner.com

/gustav

>>> jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com 20-11-2006 13:01:24 >>>
I am trying to open multiple instances of 3DFTP and assign each instance to
a different class instance inside of Access.  When I use the syntax:
 
'
'In class header
'
Private mFtpXObj As Object ' FtpXObj

    '
    'In init function
    '
    'Start 3D-FTP loading, if not already running
    Set mFtpXObj = CreateObject("ftp.API")

The first class instance correctly opens 3DFTP but the second class instance
does not, it simply gets a pointer to the already opened 3DFTP instance.
 
AFAIK I can't use the NEW() syntax since I don't have early binding, IOW I
don't have a clue what ftp.API actually is and therefore can't reference it
in Access.  According to the help file, CreateObject is supposed to open a
new instance of the object anyway so I really should be able to do this.
 
Any thoughts?
 
John W. Colby
Colby Consulting
www.ColbyConsulting.com 




From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com  Mon Nov 20 07:16:24 2006
From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (JWColby)
Date: Mon, 20 Nov 2006 08:16:24 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Create object
In-Reply-To: <s561abfe.039@cactus.dk>
Message-ID: <002201c70ca6$14eeb080$657aa8c0@m6805>

Well basically because this is the smartest bunch of folks I know, and this
is a VBA question.  It is specifically trying to open 3DFTP but the question
would be the same for opening Excel, Word etc.  I assume that they would
react the same way.

I will look at that resource though. 


John W. Colby
Colby Consulting
www.ColbyConsulting.com

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gustav Brock
Sent: Monday, November 20, 2006 7:22 AM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Create object

Hi John

I have no solution for you, but why not address support at
support at sitedesigner.com

/gustav

>>> jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com 20-11-2006 13:01:24 >>>
I am trying to open multiple instances of 3DFTP and assign each instance to
a different class instance inside of Access.  When I use the syntax:
 
'
'In class header
'
Private mFtpXObj As Object ' FtpXObj

    '
    'In init function
    '
    'Start 3D-FTP loading, if not already running
    Set mFtpXObj = CreateObject("ftp.API")

The first class instance correctly opens 3DFTP but the second class instance
does not, it simply gets a pointer to the already opened 3DFTP instance.
 
AFAIK I can't use the NEW() syntax since I don't have early binding, IOW I
don't have a clue what ftp.API actually is and therefore can't reference it
in Access.  According to the help file, CreateObject is supposed to open a
new instance of the object anyway so I really should be able to do this.
 
Any thoughts?
 
John W. Colby
Colby Consulting
www.ColbyConsulting.com 


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From mmattys at rochester.rr.com  Mon Nov 20 07:58:45 2006
From: mmattys at rochester.rr.com (Michael R Mattys)
Date: Mon, 20 Nov 2006 08:58:45 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Create object
References: <002201c70ca6$14eeb080$657aa8c0@m6805>
Message-ID: <00de01c70cab$ffceeac0$0302a8c0@default>

Thought ...

It may be that since this thing is multi-threaded,
you can only create one instance by design.

So, you might look at creating one of their vbs plug-ins
to pass more connections to it or something ...

Michael R. Mattys
A MapPoint Developer
www.mattysconsulting.com

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "JWColby" <jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com>
To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'" 
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Monday, November 20, 2006 8:16 AM
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Create object


> Well basically because this is the smartest bunch of folks I know, and 
> this
> is a VBA question.  It is specifically trying to open 3DFTP but the 
> question
> would be the same for opening Excel, Word etc.  I assume that they would
> react the same way.
>
> I will look at that resource though.
>
>
> John W. Colby
> Colby Consulting
> www.ColbyConsulting.com



From jimdettman at verizon.net  Mon Nov 20 08:05:38 2006
From: jimdettman at verizon.net (Jim Dettman)
Date: Mon, 20 Nov 2006 09:05:38 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Create object
In-Reply-To: <001d01c70c9b$9aa61bb0$657aa8c0@m6805>
Message-ID: <015001c70cac$f80c6aa0$8abea8c0@XPS>

John,

  Even though your using CreateObject, it's really up to the automation
server if it's capable of multi-instance use.

  I would do what gustav suggested and give them a call to find out if it is
multi-instance capable.

Jim. 

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of JWColby
Sent: Monday, November 20, 2006 7:01 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] Create object

I am trying to open multiple instances of 3DFTP and assign each instance to
a different class instance inside of Access.  When I use the syntax:
 
'
'In class header
'
Private mFtpXObj As Object ' FtpXObj

    '
    'In init function
    '
    'Start 3D-FTP loading, if not already running
    Set mFtpXObj = CreateObject("FTP.API")

The first class instance correctly opens 3DFTP but the second class instance
does not, it simply gets a pointer to the already opened 3DFTP instance.
 
AFAIK I can't use the NEW() syntax since I don't have early binding, IOW I
don't have a clue what FTP.API actually is and therefore can't reference it
in Access.  According to the help file, CreateObject is supposed to open a
new instance of the object anyway so I really should be able to do this.
 
Any thoughts?
 
John W. Colby
Colby Consulting
www.ColbyConsulting.com
 
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From mikedorism at verizon.net  Mon Nov 20 08:21:15 2006
From: mikedorism at verizon.net (Doris Manning)
Date: Mon, 20 Nov 2006 09:21:15 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Send an Outlook Meeting Invitation
In-Reply-To: <001201c70c5d$dc5924f0$0200a8c0@danwaters>
Message-ID: <000301c70caf$2d0a5350$2f01a8c0@Kermit>

OutlookCode.com is my favorite research place for questions like this.

Main website... www.outlookcode.com

Sending a meeting request programmatically...
http://www.outlookcode.com/codedetail.aspx?id=88

Doris Manning
Database Administrator
Hargrove Inc.

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Dan Waters
Sent: Sunday, November 19, 2006 11:39 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] Send an Outlook Meeting Invitation

Has anyone used Access to send out an Outlook Meeting Invitation?

Or know where I could go to find out how?

Thanks!
Dan Waters

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From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com  Mon Nov 20 08:22:29 2006
From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (JWColby)
Date: Mon, 20 Nov 2006 09:22:29 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Create object
In-Reply-To: <00de01c70cab$ffceeac0$0302a8c0@default>
Message-ID: <002301c70caf$501b8760$657aa8c0@m6805>

Well, that's a good thought, but I can manually click the 3DFTP hotlink and
it opens multiple times.  Further I can log in to my ftp site with one
instance and an insurer's site with another.  That would indicate that 3DFTP
itself can have multiple instances open at the same time.

I am trying to keep this as simple as possible.  I have written a class that
opens 3DFTP, grabs a pointer and passes through functionality that the API
exposes. It would be nice to be able to instantiate my class more than once,
downloading data from one site, uploading to another.  As we all know, some
sites are faster than others.  If I do this stuff serially, I potentially
waste bandwidth on slow ftp sites that could be used to transfer files in a
second instance of 3DFTP.

Unfortunately as things sit, if a 3DFTP instance is open, my class grabs a
pointer to it.  If I instantiate my class a second time, the second instance
grabs a pointer to the already open 3DFTP instance and starts manipulating
it.  Not exactly what I would like to happen.  

I am writing modules to grab files from insurance companies, unencrypt them
and load the data into tables, displaying the loaded data in a tab of a form
on the user's Access application.  There are multiple insurance companies
that I need to do this for.  Each has their own ftp site and their own file
structure, the data goes into their own table (at least initially) and are
possibly displayed on their own tab.  Additionally I have to upload data
back to the insurance company's FTP site.  These downloads / uploads will
likely be scheduled for the middle of the night but it would still be useful
if I could do them all simultaneously.  

Because of the differences between the files, the encryption etc., my
intention was to have a module / class for each insurer, using my
(standardized) 3DFTP class to do the transfer grunt work.

AFAIK, one instance of 3DFTP can queue files to transfer up/down, but they
all go to the same ftp site.  In my case I need to do up/down to multiple
ftp sites.  It would be disastrous if a second instance of MY CLASS grabbed
an existing instance of 3DFTP which was hard at work, took it over, logged
in to another site and started transferring data.  Or even worse had a queue
of files destined for one FTP site suddenly being sent to someone else's FTP
site.

John W. Colby
Colby Consulting
www.ColbyConsulting.com

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Michael R Mattys
Sent: Monday, November 20, 2006 8:59 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Create object

Thought ...

It may be that since this thing is multi-threaded, you can only create one
instance by design.

So, you might look at creating one of their vbs plug-ins to pass more
connections to it or something ...

Michael R. Mattys
A MapPoint Developer
www.mattysconsulting.com

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From: "JWColby" <jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com>
To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'" 
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Monday, November 20, 2006 8:16 AM
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Create object


> Well basically because this is the smartest bunch of folks I know, and 
> this
> is a VBA question.  It is specifically trying to open 3DFTP but the 
> question
> would be the same for opening Excel, Word etc.  I assume that they would
> react the same way.
>
> I will look at that resource though.
>
>
> John W. Colby
> Colby Consulting
> www.ColbyConsulting.com

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From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com  Mon Nov 20 08:26:24 2006
From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (JWColby)
Date: Mon, 20 Nov 2006 09:26:24 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Create object
In-Reply-To: <s561abfe.039@cactus.dk>
Message-ID: <002401c70caf$dc2682f0$657aa8c0@m6805>

I am a little confused Gustav, SiteDesigner is not 3DFTP.  I could go with
these people if I have to but I have always been very happy with 3D.

John W. Colby
Colby Consulting
www.ColbyConsulting.com

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gustav Brock
Sent: Monday, November 20, 2006 7:22 AM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Create object

Hi John

I have no solution for you, but why not address support at
support at sitedesigner.com

/gustav

>>> jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com 20-11-2006 13:01:24 >>>
I am trying to open multiple instances of 3DFTP and assign each instance to
a different class instance inside of Access.  When I use the syntax:
 
'
'In class header
'
Private mFtpXObj As Object ' FtpXObj

    '
    'In init function
    '
    'Start 3D-FTP loading, if not already running
    Set mFtpXObj = CreateObject("ftp.API")

The first class instance correctly opens 3DFTP but the second class instance
does not, it simply gets a pointer to the already opened 3DFTP instance.
 
AFAIK I can't use the NEW() syntax since I don't have early binding, IOW I
don't have a clue what ftp.API actually is and therefore can't reference it
in Access.  According to the help file, CreateObject is supposed to open a
new instance of the object anyway so I really should be able to do this.
 
Any thoughts?
 
John W. Colby
Colby Consulting
www.ColbyConsulting.com 


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From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com  Mon Nov 20 08:36:25 2006
From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (JWColby)
Date: Mon, 20 Nov 2006 09:36:25 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Create object
In-Reply-To: <002401c70caf$dc2682f0$657aa8c0@m6805>
Message-ID: <002d01c70cb1$4207a350$657aa8c0@m6805>

Gustav,

Never mind, I found that they are referenced in the 3D help.  I have emailed
them.

John W. Colby
Colby Consulting
www.ColbyConsulting.com

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of JWColby
Sent: Monday, November 20, 2006 9:26 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Create object

I am a little confused Gustav, SiteDesigner is not 3DFTP.  I could go with
these people if I have to but I have always been very happy with 3D.

John W. Colby
Colby Consulting
www.ColbyConsulting.com

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gustav Brock
Sent: Monday, November 20, 2006 7:22 AM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Create object

Hi John

I have no solution for you, but why not address support at
support at sitedesigner.com

/gustav

>>> jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com 20-11-2006 13:01:24 >>>
I am trying to open multiple instances of 3DFTP and assign each instance to
a different class instance inside of Access.  When I use the syntax:
 
'
'In class header
'
Private mFtpXObj As Object ' FtpXObj

    '
    'In init function
    '
    'Start 3D-FTP loading, if not already running
    Set mFtpXObj = CreateObject("ftp.API")

The first class instance correctly opens 3DFTP but the second class instance
does not, it simply gets a pointer to the already opened 3DFTP instance.
 
AFAIK I can't use the NEW() syntax since I don't have early binding, IOW I
don't have a clue what ftp.API actually is and therefore can't reference it
in Access.  According to the help file, CreateObject is supposed to open a
new instance of the object anyway so I really should be able to do this.
 
Any thoughts?
 
John W. Colby
Colby Consulting
www.ColbyConsulting.com 


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From mmattys at rochester.rr.com  Mon Nov 20 08:48:24 2006
From: mmattys at rochester.rr.com (Michael R Mattys)
Date: Mon, 20 Nov 2006 09:48:24 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Create object
References: <002301c70caf$501b8760$657aa8c0@m6805>
Message-ID: <010e01c70cb2$f7d657c0$0302a8c0@default>

I've never used it, but I may have to soon.

Is it possible to Shell (the shortcut) and FindWindow,
then get the pointer?

Michael R. Mattys
A MapPoint Developer
www.mattysconsulting.com

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "JWColby" <jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com>
To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'" 
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Monday, November 20, 2006 9:22 AM
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Create object


> Well, that's a good thought, but I can manually click the 3DFTP hotlink 
> and
> it opens multiple times.  Further I can log in to my ftp site with one
> instance and an insurer's site with another.  That would indicate that 
> 3DFTP
> itself can have multiple instances open at the same time.
>
> I am trying to keep this as simple as possible.  I have written a class 
> that
> opens 3DFTP, grabs a pointer and passes through functionality that the API
> exposes. It would be nice to be able to instantiate my class more than 
> once,
> downloading data from one site, uploading to another.  As we all know, 
> some
> sites are faster than others.  If I do this stuff serially, I potentially
> waste bandwidth on slow ftp sites that could be used to transfer files in 
> a
> second instance of 3DFTP.
>
> Unfortunately as things sit, if a 3DFTP instance is open, my class grabs a
> pointer to it.  If I instantiate my class a second time, the second 
> instance
> grabs a pointer to the already open 3DFTP instance and starts manipulating
> it.  Not exactly what I would like to happen.
>
> I am writing modules to grab files from insurance companies, unencrypt 
> them
> and load the data into tables, displaying the loaded data in a tab of a 
> form
> on the user's Access application.  There are multiple insurance companies
> that I need to do this for.  Each has their own ftp site and their own 
> file
> structure, the data goes into their own table (at least initially) and are
> possibly displayed on their own tab.  Additionally I have to upload data
> back to the insurance company's FTP site.  These downloads / uploads will
> likely be scheduled for the middle of the night but it would still be 
> useful
> if I could do them all simultaneously.
>
> Because of the differences between the files, the encryption etc., my
> intention was to have a module / class for each insurer, using my
> (standardized) 3DFTP class to do the transfer grunt work.
>
> AFAIK, one instance of 3DFTP can queue files to transfer up/down, but they
> all go to the same ftp site.  In my case I need to do up/down to multiple
> ftp sites.  It would be disastrous if a second instance of MY CLASS 
> grabbed
> an existing instance of 3DFTP which was hard at work, took it over, logged
> in to another site and started transferring data.  Or even worse had a 
> queue
> of files destined for one FTP site suddenly being sent to someone else's 
> FTP
> site.
>
> John W. Colby
> Colby Consulting
> www.ColbyConsulting.com
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Michael R 
> Mattys
> Sent: Monday, November 20, 2006 8:59 AM
> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] Create object
>
> Thought ...
>
> It may be that since this thing is multi-threaded, you can only create one
> instance by design.
>
> So, you might look at creating one of their vbs plug-ins to pass more
> connections to it or something ...
>
> Michael R. Mattys
> A MapPoint Developer
> www.mattysconsulting.com
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "JWColby" <jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com>
> To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'"
> <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
> Sent: Monday, November 20, 2006 8:16 AM
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] Create object
>
>
>> Well basically because this is the smartest bunch of folks I know, and
>> this
>> is a VBA question.  It is specifically trying to open 3DFTP but the
>> question
>> would be the same for opening Excel, Word etc.  I assume that they would
>> react the same way.
>>
>> I will look at that resource though.
>>
>>
>> John W. Colby
>> Colby Consulting
>> www.ColbyConsulting.com
>
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From Gustav at cactus.dk  Mon Nov 20 08:45:13 2006
From: Gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Mon, 20 Nov 2006 15:45:13 +0100
Subject: [AccessD] Create object
Message-ID: <s561cd9e.047@cactus.dk>

Hi John

Same company:

http://www.sitedesigner.com/history.htm 

/gustav


>>> jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com 20-11-2006 15:36:25 >>>
Gustav,

Never mind, I found that they are referenced in the 3D help.  I have emailed
them.

John W. Colby
Colby Consulting
www.ColbyConsulting.com 

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com 
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of JWColby
Sent: Monday, November 20, 2006 9:26 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Create object

I am a little confused Gustav, SiteDesigner is not 3DFTP.  I could go with
these people if I have to but I have always been very happy with 3D.

John W. Colby
Colby Consulting
www.ColbyConsulting.com 

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com 
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gustav Brock
Sent: Monday, November 20, 2006 7:22 AM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com 
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Create object

Hi John

I have no solution for you, but why not address support at
support at sitedesigner.com 

/gustav




From dwaters at usinternet.com  Mon Nov 20 09:18:49 2006
From: dwaters at usinternet.com (Dan Waters)
Date: Mon, 20 Nov 2006 09:18:49 -0600
Subject: [AccessD] Send an Outlook Meeting Invitation
In-Reply-To: <8948412.1164032942648.JavaMail.root@sniper47>
Message-ID: <001701c70cb7$2e9f78a0$0200a8c0@danwaters>

That's Great!  I can see why this is your favorite Outlook site!

Thank You!

Dan Waters

-----Original Message-----
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Send an Outlook Meeting Invitation

OutlookCode.com is my favorite research place for questions like this.

Main website... www.outlookcode.com

Sending a meeting request programmatically...
http://www.outlookcode.com/codedetail.aspx?id=88

Doris Manning
Database Administrator
Hargrove Inc.

-----Original Message-----
Subject: [AccessD] Send an Outlook Meeting Invitation

Has anyone used Access to send out an Outlook Meeting Invitation?

Or know where I could go to find out how?

Thanks!
Dan Waters



From accessd at shaw.ca  Mon Nov 20 11:26:20 2006
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Mon, 20 Nov 2006 09:26:20 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] Create object
In-Reply-To: <001d01c70c9b$9aa61bb0$657aa8c0@m6805>
Message-ID: <0J9100CJ0HOZNM43@l-daemon>

Hi John:

The problem would appear to be with 3D-FTP which is designed to only open as
a single instance, per computer....

Jim

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of JWColby
Sent: Monday, November 20, 2006 4:01 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] Create object

I am trying to open multiple instances of 3DFTP and assign each instance to
a different class instance inside of Access.  When I use the syntax:
 
'
'In class header
'
Private mFtpXObj As Object ' FtpXObj

    '
    'In init function
    '
    'Start 3D-FTP loading, if not already running
    Set mFtpXObj = CreateObject("FTP.API")

The first class instance correctly opens 3DFTP but the second class instance
does not, it simply gets a pointer to the already opened 3DFTP instance.
 
AFAIK I can't use the NEW() syntax since I don't have early binding, IOW I
don't have a clue what FTP.API actually is and therefore can't reference it
in Access.  According to the help file, CreateObject is supposed to open a
new instance of the object anyway so I really should be able to do this.
 
Any thoughts?
 
John W. Colby
Colby Consulting
www.ColbyConsulting.com
 
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From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com  Mon Nov 20 13:35:45 2006
From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (JWColby)
Date: Mon, 20 Nov 2006 14:35:45 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Create object
In-Reply-To: <0J9100CJ0HOZNM43@l-daemon>
Message-ID: <000601c70cdb$137563e0$657aa8c0@m6805>

Well... I can open multiple instances manually.

John W. Colby
Colby Consulting
www.ColbyConsulting.com

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim Lawrence
Sent: Monday, November 20, 2006 12:26 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Create object

Hi John:

The problem would appear to be with 3D-FTP which is designed to only open as
a single instance, per computer....

Jim

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of JWColby
Sent: Monday, November 20, 2006 4:01 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] Create object

I am trying to open multiple instances of 3DFTP and assign each instance to
a different class instance inside of Access.  When I use the syntax:
 
'
'In class header
'
Private mFtpXObj As Object ' FtpXObj

    '
    'In init function
    '
    'Start 3D-FTP loading, if not already running
    Set mFtpXObj = CreateObject("FTP.API")

The first class instance correctly opens 3DFTP but the second class instance
does not, it simply gets a pointer to the already opened 3DFTP instance.
 
AFAIK I can't use the NEW() syntax since I don't have early binding, IOW I
don't have a clue what FTP.API actually is and therefore can't reference it
in Access.  According to the help file, CreateObject is supposed to open a
new instance of the object anyway so I really should be able to do this.
 
Any thoughts?
 
John W. Colby
Colby Consulting
www.ColbyConsulting.com
 
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From martyconnelly at shaw.ca  Mon Nov 20 13:50:23 2006
From: martyconnelly at shaw.ca (MartyConnelly)
Date: Mon, 20 Nov 2006 11:50:23 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] FW: [U] Soldier in Iraq needs Access Help
In-Reply-To: <003201c70a6d$33c351e0$6401a8c0@HAL9005>
References: <003201c70a6d$33c351e0$6401a8c0@HAL9005>
Message-ID: <456206FF.5030506@shaw.ca>

I would probably do this with SQL Server 2005 Express Edition
with Advanced Services.SQL Server 2005 Express Edition with
Advanced Services is perfect for use as a backend to a small, multiuser
application that requires more advanced features such as Web reporting 
or Full-text Search.
You could do this with the full version of SQL 2000 but now is available 
in Express.

SQL Server 2000 provides a rich text-data retrieval system and
an enhanced full-text search service that enables you to perform a 
linguistic
search of character data in tables enabled for full-text search.
A linguistic search operates on words and phrases.
The linguistic search is not supported for Arabic, but other parts of 
full-text search are.

Creating Full-Text Index
To accomplish a full-text search, you must create a full-text index on 
the specific column
you wish to search. To index a column in a table you are viewing, use 
the Full-Text Indexing Wizard.
In the Select Table Columns page, find the column you wish to index and,
in the Language for Word Breaker list, select Neutral.
Choosing this option enables your index to work with Arabic even though 
that language
is not included in the list of supported languages.
In general, use this option when a column contains data in multiple 
languages or in an unsupported language

http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/default.asp?url=/library/en-us/dnsql2k/html/sql_arabicsupport.asp


You could do this with Google Desktop Search Engine via VBA API calls to 
return xml files
of retrieved data ranked by date or relevance. Caveats Security, Need 
addon's to
look deep into text and pdf files beyond 4000 characters.

Vista is supposed to have an inbuilt text search engine.




Beach Access Software wrote:

>Anyone want to tackle this one?  Sounds like an interesting project.
>
> 
>
>Rocky
>
> 
>
> 
>
>  _____  
>
>From: Access Users Group of San Diego [mailto:admin at augsd.org] 
>Sent: Friday, November 17, 2006 8:59 AM
>To: Wayne Warren-Angelucci; Rocky Smolin; Mark J. Krisburg; Joe Anderson;
>Dixon Foss; Barry Hynum (E-mail); Mike Dwyer; Ed Lance; Doug Murphy; Dixon
>Foss; Jackie Murphy (E-mail)
>Subject: FW: [U] Soldier in Iraq needs Access Help
>
> 
>
> 
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Newsom Lester SFC MNFI STARTEFF
>[mailto:lester.newsom at iraq.centcom.mil]
>Sent: Wednesday, November 01, 2006 9:12 AM
>To: admin at augsd.org
>Subject: [U] Soldier in Iraq needs Access Help
>
>Classification: UNCLASSIFIED 
>
>Greetings from Baghdad.
>
> 
>
>I am not one to ask for help until I have absolutely driven myself to the
>edge. It is my hope that you or one of your experts can shed some light on
>what I am trying to get Access to do.
>
> 
>
>There are actually two things, but first an explanation of what the database
>does. A team of translators interpret local Iraqi newscasts which are
>transcribed and input into the database. These transcriptions are referred
>back to on a regular basis via requests to my office by the higher-ups. A
>typical request would be along the lines of "Give me the instances over the
>past two weeks Prime Minister Maliki has said he likes the U.S." or, "Give
>me every article referring to IED's exploding in the past month"
>
> 
>
>A simple query of course, returns the date range and all articles whereas
>the word "Maliki" appears. I am helped by the fact that Maliki does not
>appear in the dictionary so I can scan through the articles, deleting those
>that are not relevant. I cannot however discern when IED is actually part of
>another word. 
>
> 
>
>What I would like to accomplish, is highlighting my text query, much like
>Google does in its cached pages. So, those words that I search for are
>highlighted, giving me a visual reference. 
>
> 
>
>I have tried constructing a macro to do the action and have also searched
>high and low in the Help files and the Internet.. Perhaps this makes perfect
>sense to you and you can point me in the right direction.
>
> 
>
>Thank you in advance for your time.
>
> 
>
>SFC Lester Newsom
>
>Baghdad, Iraq
>
> 
>
> 
>
>Classification: UNCLASSIFIED
>If this e-mail is marked FOR OFFICIAL USE ONLY it may be exempt from
>mandatory disclosure under FOIA. DoD 5400.7R, "DoD Freedom of Information
>Act Program", DoD Directive 5230.9, "Clearance of DoD Information for Public
>Release", and DoD Instruction 5230.29, "Security and Policy Review of DoD
>Information for Public Release" apply.
>
>
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>
>
>  
>

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Victoria, B.C.
Canada



From bchacc at san.rr.com  Mon Nov 20 14:14:09 2006
From: bchacc at san.rr.com (Beach Access Software)
Date: Mon, 20 Nov 2006 12:14:09 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] FW: [U] Soldier in Iraq needs Access Help
In-Reply-To: <456206FF.5030506@shaw.ca>
Message-ID: <01b601c70ce0$70929250$6401a8c0@HAL9005>

To everyone who responded to this request:

Would it be possible for you to contact this guy directly?  I could forward
all the emails but since I don't really know how to solve this one there's
no point in my getting in the middle.

Thanks and regards,

Rocky


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of MartyConnelly
Sent: Monday, November 20, 2006 11:50 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] FW: [U] Soldier in Iraq needs Access Help

I would probably do this with SQL Server 2005 Express Edition
with Advanced Services.SQL Server 2005 Express Edition with
Advanced Services is perfect for use as a backend to a small, multiuser
application that requires more advanced features such as Web reporting 
or Full-text Search.
You could do this with the full version of SQL 2000 but now is available 
in Express.

SQL Server 2000 provides a rich text-data retrieval system and
an enhanced full-text search service that enables you to perform a 
linguistic
search of character data in tables enabled for full-text search.
A linguistic search operates on words and phrases.
The linguistic search is not supported for Arabic, but other parts of 
full-text search are.

Creating Full-Text Index
To accomplish a full-text search, you must create a full-text index on 
the specific column
you wish to search. To index a column in a table you are viewing, use 
the Full-Text Indexing Wizard.
In the Select Table Columns page, find the column you wish to index and,
in the Language for Word Breaker list, select Neutral.
Choosing this option enables your index to work with Arabic even though 
that language
is not included in the list of supported languages.
In general, use this option when a column contains data in multiple 
languages or in an unsupported language

http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/default.asp?url=/library/en-us/dnsql2k/htm
l/sql_arabicsupport.asp


You could do this with Google Desktop Search Engine via VBA API calls to 
return xml files
of retrieved data ranked by date or relevance. Caveats Security, Need 
addon's to
look deep into text and pdf files beyond 4000 characters.

Vista is supposed to have an inbuilt text search engine.




Beach Access Software wrote:

>Anyone want to tackle this one?  Sounds like an interesting project.
>
> 
>
>Rocky
>
> 
>
> 
>
>  _____  
>
>From: Access Users Group of San Diego [mailto:admin at augsd.org] 
>Sent: Friday, November 17, 2006 8:59 AM
>To: Wayne Warren-Angelucci; Rocky Smolin; Mark J. Krisburg; Joe Anderson;
>Dixon Foss; Barry Hynum (E-mail); Mike Dwyer; Ed Lance; Doug Murphy; Dixon
>Foss; Jackie Murphy (E-mail)
>Subject: FW: [U] Soldier in Iraq needs Access Help
>
> 
>
> 
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Newsom Lester SFC MNFI STARTEFF
>[mailto:lester.newsom at iraq.centcom.mil]
>Sent: Wednesday, November 01, 2006 9:12 AM
>To: admin at augsd.org
>Subject: [U] Soldier in Iraq needs Access Help
>
>Classification: UNCLASSIFIED 
>
>Greetings from Baghdad.
>
> 
>
>I am not one to ask for help until I have absolutely driven myself to the
>edge. It is my hope that you or one of your experts can shed some light on
>what I am trying to get Access to do.
>
> 
>
>There are actually two things, but first an explanation of what the
database
>does. A team of translators interpret local Iraqi newscasts which are
>transcribed and input into the database. These transcriptions are referred
>back to on a regular basis via requests to my office by the higher-ups. A
>typical request would be along the lines of "Give me the instances over the
>past two weeks Prime Minister Maliki has said he likes the U.S." or, "Give
>me every article referring to IED's exploding in the past month"
>
> 
>
>A simple query of course, returns the date range and all articles whereas
>the word "Maliki" appears. I am helped by the fact that Maliki does not
>appear in the dictionary so I can scan through the articles, deleting those
>that are not relevant. I cannot however discern when IED is actually part
of
>another word. 
>
> 
>
>What I would like to accomplish, is highlighting my text query, much like
>Google does in its cached pages. So, those words that I search for are
>highlighted, giving me a visual reference. 
>
> 
>
>I have tried constructing a macro to do the action and have also searched
>high and low in the Help files and the Internet.. Perhaps this makes
perfect
>sense to you and you can point me in the right direction.
>
> 
>
>Thank you in advance for your time.
>
> 
>
>SFC Lester Newsom
>
>Baghdad, Iraq
>
> 
>
> 
>
>Classification: UNCLASSIFIED
>If this e-mail is marked FOR OFFICIAL USE ONLY it may be exempt from
>mandatory disclosure under FOIA. DoD 5400.7R, "DoD Freedom of Information
>Act Program", DoD Directive 5230.9, "Clearance of DoD Information for
Public
>Release", and DoD Instruction 5230.29, "Security and Policy Review of DoD
>Information for Public Release" apply.
>
>
>--
>No virus found in this incoming message.
>Checked by AVG Free Edition.
>Version: 7.5.430 / Virus Database: 268.14.6/536 - Release Date: 11/16/2006
>3:51 PM
>
>
>  
>

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Victoria, B.C.
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From bheid at sc.rr.com  Mon Nov 20 14:46:51 2006
From: bheid at sc.rr.com (Bobby Heid)
Date: Mon, 20 Nov 2006 15:46:51 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Create object
In-Reply-To: <000601c70cdb$137563e0$657aa8c0@m6805>
Message-ID: <000801c70ce5$01fcfe70$465a1d05@bhxp>

It's possible that it is really a type of MDI app.  Just like when you open
up IE several times and one crashes, they all die.

Bobby 

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of JWColby
Sent: Monday, November 20, 2006 2:36 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Create object

Well... I can open multiple instances manually.

John W. Colby
Colby Consulting
www.ColbyConsulting.com

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim Lawrence
Sent: Monday, November 20, 2006 12:26 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Create object

Hi John:

The problem would appear to be with 3D-FTP which is designed to only open as
a single instance, per computer....

Jim

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of JWColby
Sent: Monday, November 20, 2006 4:01 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] Create object

I am trying to open multiple instances of 3DFTP and assign each instance to
a different class instance inside of Access.  When I use the syntax:
 
'
'In class header
'
Private mFtpXObj As Object ' FtpXObj

    '
    'In init function
    '
    'Start 3D-FTP loading, if not already running
    Set mFtpXObj = CreateObject("FTP.API")

The first class instance correctly opens 3DFTP but the second class instance
does not, it simply gets a pointer to the already opened 3DFTP instance.
 
AFAIK I can't use the NEW() syntax since I don't have early binding, IOW I
don't have a clue what FTP.API actually is and therefore can't reference it
in Access.  According to the help file, CreateObject is supposed to open a
new instance of the object anyway so I really should be able to do this.
 
Any thoughts?
 
John W. Colby
Colby Consulting
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From accessd at shaw.ca  Mon Nov 20 15:17:08 2006
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Mon, 20 Nov 2006 13:17:08 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] Create object
In-Reply-To: <000601c70cdb$137563e0$657aa8c0@m6805>
Message-ID: <0J9100GP8SDOJ320@l-daemon>

Hi John:

I think it is like Excel in which you can open a number of separate sheets
but if you quit one they all quit. You can close one though... but in
reality it is all the same application...

Jim

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[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of JWColby
Sent: Monday, November 20, 2006 11:36 AM
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Subject: Re: [AccessD] Create object

Well... I can open multiple instances manually.

John W. Colby
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[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim Lawrence
Sent: Monday, November 20, 2006 12:26 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Create object

Hi John:

The problem would appear to be with 3D-FTP which is designed to only open as
a single instance, per computer....

Jim

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Sent: Monday, November 20, 2006 4:01 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] Create object

I am trying to open multiple instances of 3DFTP and assign each instance to
a different class instance inside of Access.  When I use the syntax:
 
'
'In class header
'
Private mFtpXObj As Object ' FtpXObj

    '
    'In init function
    '
    'Start 3D-FTP loading, if not already running
    Set mFtpXObj = CreateObject("FTP.API")

The first class instance correctly opens 3DFTP but the second class instance
does not, it simply gets a pointer to the already opened 3DFTP instance.
 
AFAIK I can't use the NEW() syntax since I don't have early binding, IOW I
don't have a clue what FTP.API actually is and therefore can't reference it
in Access.  According to the help file, CreateObject is supposed to open a
new instance of the object anyway so I really should be able to do this.
 
Any thoughts?
 
John W. Colby
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From ssharkins at setel.com  Mon Nov 20 15:32:11 2006
From: ssharkins at setel.com (Susan Harkins)
Date: Mon, 20 Nov 2006 16:32:11 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] FW: [U] Soldier in Iraq needs Access Help
In-Reply-To: <456206FF.5030506@shaw.ca>
Message-ID: <000e01c70ceb$58dd3b50$bab62ad1@SUSANONE>

 
I would probably do this with SQL Server 2005 Express Edition with Advanced
Services.SQL Server 2005 Express Edition with Advanced Services is perfect
for use as a backend to a small, multiuser application that requires more
advanced features such as Web reporting or Full-text Search.
You could do this with the full version of SQL 2000 but now is available in
Express.

========Are you sure that full-text search is supported by Express? 

Susan H. 



From Kwilliamson at RTKL.com  Mon Nov 20 15:50:09 2006
From: Kwilliamson at RTKL.com (Keith Williamson)
Date: Mon, 20 Nov 2006 16:50:09 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Excel Import
Message-ID: <B7450F806572FD4AA30B664E5FE127FB125325@sherman.rtkl.rtkl.net>

Hey Guys,

I am trying to do an Excel import, into a new table.  There are 98 lines
of data in my Excel file.  However, when I do my import....no matter
what I do, it imports 64,963 records.  I have gone to the excel file and
deleted every blank line, after my data.  But it still imports the same
number of records.  Why would it import all the empty fields??

Thanks,

Keith E. Williamson | Assist. Controller| kwilliamson at rtkl.com

RTKL Associates Inc. | 901 South Bond Street | Baltimore, Maryland
21231-3305

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From ssharkins at setel.com  Mon Nov 20 16:08:16 2006
From: ssharkins at setel.com (Susan Harkins)
Date: Mon, 20 Nov 2006 17:08:16 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Excel Import
In-Reply-To: <B7450F806572FD4AA30B664E5FE127FB125325@sherman.rtkl.rtkl.net>
Message-ID: <000801c70cf0$63ca11a0$9cb82ad1@SUSANONE>

Keith, is it importing each cell entry as a single record or are the records
pretty much intact? If the latter, what's in rows 99 and beyond? 

The first thing I'd suggest is that you copy the 98 records into a clean
sheet and just get rid of the old one. 

Susan H. 

I am trying to do an Excel import, into a new table.  There are 98 lines of
data in my Excel file.  However, when I do my import....no matter what I do,
it imports 64,963 records.  I have gone to the excel file and deleted every
blank line, after my data.  But it still imports the same number of records.
Why would it import all the empty fields??




From Donald.A.McGillivray at sprint.com  Mon Nov 20 16:00:46 2006
From: Donald.A.McGillivray at sprint.com (McGillivray, Don [IT])
Date: Mon, 20 Nov 2006 16:00:46 -0600
Subject: [AccessD] Excel Import
In-Reply-To: <B7450F806572FD4AA30B664E5FE127FB125325@sherman.rtkl.rtkl.net>
Message-ID: <EC829B33DF5B5B48A956B7A2E894AA9A0A71E57D@PLSWB06C.ad.sprint.com>

Hi, Keith

I can't say that I've seen that behavior before, but Access seems to be seeing the entire Excel sheet as the data source when you do the import.  Try naming the range (Insert/Name) of the Excel sheet that holds the data.  Then specify that named range for import into your table.  Named ranges are very useful both within Excel and for this sort of external task.

Hope this helps!

Don McGillivray

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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Keith Williamson
Sent: Monday, November 20, 2006 1:50 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: [AccessD] Excel Import

Hey Guys,

I am trying to do an Excel import, into a new table.  There are 98 lines
of data in my Excel file.  However, when I do my import....no matter
what I do, it imports 64,963 records.  I have gone to the excel file and
deleted every blank line, after my data.  But it still imports the same
number of records.  Why would it import all the empty fields??

Thanks,

Keith E. Williamson | Assist. Controller| kwilliamson at rtkl.com

RTKL Associates Inc. | 901 South Bond Street | Baltimore, Maryland
21231-3305

410-537-6098 direct | 410-276-2136 fax | www.rtkl.com

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From john at winhaven.net  Mon Nov 20 16:33:05 2006
From: john at winhaven.net (John Bartow)
Date: Mon, 20 Nov 2006 16:33:05 -0600
Subject: [AccessD] Excel Import
In-Reply-To: <B7450F806572FD4AA30B664E5FE127FB125325@sherman.rtkl.rtkl.net>
Message-ID: <200611202233.kAKMX5q01881@databaseadvisors.com>

Oh the joy of it, eh?

First thing I'd try is selecting all the empty rows and then deleting them.
(just in case there's zero length string or something akin to that in all of
them. Then try importing again.

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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Keith Williamson
Sent: Monday, November 20, 2006 3:50 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: [AccessD] Excel Import

Hey Guys,

I am trying to do an Excel import, into a new table.  There are 98 lines of
data in my Excel file.  However, when I do my import....no matter what I do,
it imports 64,963 records.  I have gone to the excel file and deleted every
blank line, after my data.  But it still imports the same number of records.
Why would it import all the empty fields??

Thanks,

Keith E. Williamson | Assist. Controller| kwilliamson at rtkl.com

RTKL Associates Inc. | 901 South Bond Street | Baltimore, Maryland
21231-3305

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From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com  Mon Nov 20 16:43:46 2006
From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (JWColby)
Date: Mon, 20 Nov 2006 17:43:46 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Create object
In-Reply-To: <0J9100GP8SDOJ320@l-daemon>
Message-ID: <001501c70cf5$57860430$657aa8c0@m6805>

Interesting idea but I just tested it and I can open and close them
independently.  They truly seem to be separate instances of the program.  Of
course who really knows.  Anytime you open something with:

CreateObject("FTP.API")

Who knows what is really going on.  It certainly LOOKS like Word.Document or
Excel.Sheet where FTP.API is some kind of object of FTP that is exposed for
manipulation.  There are two "objects" that are in the list of things that
can be referenced.  One is 3dFTP.DLL, described as "3D-FTP Transfer Engine
Com Object".  However the properties and methods of that don't match the
API.  It LOOKS like it could be programmed to directly.  I referenced it and
can see the methods and properties.

The other object in the list of referencable objects is called FTP - and is
the 3DFTP.EXE.  Even though I can set a reference to the EXE I can't dim an
object as that, I get an immediate compile error.

So what exactly the .API is, or is a property of remains a mystery.

WHOA, I found it!  If I reference the 3DFTP.exe (as FTP in the reference
list), and then dim an object as FTP.API, I get ahold of the API and can see
exactly and only the API methods.  

Unfortunately this still doesn't get me anywhere since I am again not
getting a pointer to the EXE but apparently just an object inside of the
EXE.

And I still can't programmatically cause a new instance of the EXE to open.

John W. Colby
Colby Consulting
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-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim Lawrence
Sent: Monday, November 20, 2006 4:17 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Create object

Hi John:

I think it is like Excel in which you can open a number of separate sheets
but if you quit one they all quit. You can close one though... but in
reality it is all the same application...

Jim

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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of JWColby
Sent: Monday, November 20, 2006 11:36 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Create object

Well... I can open multiple instances manually.

John W. Colby
Colby Consulting
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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim Lawrence
Sent: Monday, November 20, 2006 12:26 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Create object

Hi John:

The problem would appear to be with 3D-FTP which is designed to only open as
a single instance, per computer....

Jim

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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of JWColby
Sent: Monday, November 20, 2006 4:01 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] Create object

I am trying to open multiple instances of 3DFTP and assign each instance to
a different class instance inside of Access.  When I use the syntax:
 
'
'In class header
'
Private mFtpXObj As Object ' FtpXObj

    '
    'In init function
    '
    'Start 3D-FTP loading, if not already running
    Set mFtpXObj = CreateObject("FTP.API")

The first class instance correctly opens 3DFTP but the second class instance
does not, it simply gets a pointer to the already opened 3DFTP instance.
 
AFAIK I can't use the NEW() syntax since I don't have early binding, IOW I
don't have a clue what FTP.API actually is and therefore can't reference it
in Access.  According to the help file, CreateObject is supposed to open a
new instance of the object anyway so I really should be able to do this.
 
Any thoughts?
 
John W. Colby
Colby Consulting
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From bchacc at san.rr.com  Mon Nov 20 16:46:21 2006
From: bchacc at san.rr.com (Beach Access Software)
Date: Mon, 20 Nov 2006 14:46:21 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] Print report to file
Message-ID: <01cb01c70cf5$b3471750$6401a8c0@HAL9005>

Dear List:

 

I got a program from this list a few years ago which allowed me to print a
report to a file.  Each page was a jpg.  I could then insert them into a
manual.  It worked great. 

 

But I cannot find it any more.  I think it installed like a printer but I
can't remember.  It was a free download from the net and I believe it was
from a Russian author.

 

I searched the archive but no luck. 

 

Does this ring a bell with anybody?

 

MTIA

 

Rocky

 



From bill_Patten at earthlink.net  Mon Nov 20 16:52:08 2006
From: bill_Patten at earthlink.net (Bill Patten)
Date: Mon, 20 Nov 2006 14:52:08 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] FW: [U] Soldier in Iraq needs Access Help
References: <000e01c70ceb$58dd3b50$bab62ad1@SUSANONE>
Message-ID: <006801c70cf6$823359c0$0202fea9@BPCS>

Hi Susan,

Yes , the Advanced Services version does. I tested it and though  I couldn't 
find a wizard I was able to get it working with T-SQL. I  tested it against 
a SQL 2000 box and got the same results, returned 41 records in both out of 
about 350 records and lots of text.

Bill
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Sent: Monday, November 20, 2006 1:32 PM
Subject: Re: [AccessD] FW: [U] Soldier in Iraq needs Access Help



I would probably do this with SQL Server 2005 Express Edition with Advanced
Services.SQL Server 2005 Express Edition with Advanced Services is perfect
for use as a backend to a small, multiuser application that requires more
advanced features such as Web reporting or Full-text Search.
You could do this with the full version of SQL 2000 but now is available in
Express.

========Are you sure that full-text search is supported by Express?

Susan H.

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From Kwilliamson at RTKL.com  Mon Nov 20 16:55:51 2006
From: Kwilliamson at RTKL.com (Keith Williamson)
Date: Mon, 20 Nov 2006 17:55:51 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Excel Import
Message-ID: <B7450F806572FD4AA30B664E5FE127FB125364@sherman.rtkl.rtkl.net>

Record #99 and on, are nothing but blank records.  Actually, I did copy
this data in from a html screen version of excel...into a blank excel
worksheet.  Then uploaded that. 

Keith E. Williamson | Assist. Controller| kwilliamson at rtkl.com

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21231-3305

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-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Susan Harkins
Sent: Monday, November 20, 2006 5:08 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Excel Import

Keith, is it importing each cell entry as a single record or are the
records
pretty much intact? If the latter, what's in rows 99 and beyond? 

The first thing I'd suggest is that you copy the 98 records into a clean
sheet and just get rid of the old one. 

Susan H. 

I am trying to do an Excel import, into a new table.  There are 98 lines
of
data in my Excel file.  However, when I do my import....no matter what I
do,
it imports 64,963 records.  I have gone to the excel file and deleted
every
blank line, after my data.  But it still imports the same number of
records.
Why would it import all the empty fields??


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From Kwilliamson at RTKL.com  Mon Nov 20 17:01:25 2006
From: Kwilliamson at RTKL.com (Keith Williamson)
Date: Mon, 20 Nov 2006 18:01:25 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Excel Import
Message-ID: <B7450F806572FD4AA30B664E5FE127FB125368@sherman.rtkl.rtkl.net>

Thanks.  This worked.  Although, for an ongoing process...I can just see
me forgetting to re-define my range...and not uploading all the proper
data.  :(  For now, however...this worked.  :)

Thanks,

Keith E. Williamson | Assist. Controller| kwilliamson at rtkl.com

RTKL Associates Inc. | 901 South Bond Street | Baltimore, Maryland
21231-3305

410-537-6098 direct | 410-276-2136 fax | www.rtkl.com


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of McGillivray,
Don [IT]
Sent: Monday, November 20, 2006 5:01 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Excel Import

Hi, Keith

I can't say that I've seen that behavior before, but Access seems to be
seeing the entire Excel sheet as the data source when you do the import.
Try naming the range (Insert/Name) of the Excel sheet that holds the
data.  Then specify that named range for import into your table.  Named
ranges are very useful both within Excel and for this sort of external
task.

Hope this helps!

Don McGillivray

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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Keith
Williamson
Sent: Monday, November 20, 2006 1:50 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: [AccessD] Excel Import

Hey Guys,

I am trying to do an Excel import, into a new table.  There are 98 lines
of data in my Excel file.  However, when I do my import....no matter
what I do, it imports 64,963 records.  I have gone to the excel file and
deleted every blank line, after my data.  But it still imports the same
number of records.  Why would it import all the empty fields??

Thanks,

Keith E. Williamson | Assist. Controller| kwilliamson at rtkl.com

RTKL Associates Inc. | 901 South Bond Street | Baltimore, Maryland
21231-3305

410-537-6098 direct | 410-276-2136 fax | www.rtkl.com

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From Kwilliamson at RTKL.com  Mon Nov 20 17:01:47 2006
From: Kwilliamson at RTKL.com (Keith Williamson)
Date: Mon, 20 Nov 2006 18:01:47 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Excel Import
Message-ID: <B7450F806572FD4AA30B664E5FE127FB125369@sherman.rtkl.rtkl.net>

Yeah...tried that a few times.

:(

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-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of John Bartow
Sent: Monday, November 20, 2006 5:33 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Excel Import

Oh the joy of it, eh?

First thing I'd try is selecting all the empty rows and then deleting
them.
(just in case there's zero length string or something akin to that in
all of
them. Then try importing again.

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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Keith
Williamson
Sent: Monday, November 20, 2006 3:50 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: [AccessD] Excel Import

Hey Guys,

I am trying to do an Excel import, into a new table.  There are 98 lines
of
data in my Excel file.  However, when I do my import....no matter what I
do,
it imports 64,963 records.  I have gone to the excel file and deleted
every
blank line, after my data.  But it still imports the same number of
records.
Why would it import all the empty fields??

Thanks,

Keith E. Williamson | Assist. Controller| kwilliamson at rtkl.com

RTKL Associates Inc. | 901 South Bond Street | Baltimore, Maryland
21231-3305

410-537-6098 direct | 410-276-2136 fax | www.rtkl.com

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From dw-murphy at cox.net  Mon Nov 20 17:05:52 2006
From: dw-murphy at cox.net (Doug Murphy)
Date: Mon, 20 Nov 2006 15:05:52 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] Print report to file
In-Reply-To: <01cb01c70cf5$b3471750$6401a8c0@HAL9005>
Message-ID: <006401c70cf8$6d504bb0$0200a8c0@murphy3234aaf1>

Snagit can do this, but you will have to spend a few bucks.  Well worth the
money, $39 from TechSmith.com.

Doug 

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Software
Sent: Monday, November 20, 2006 2:46 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] Print report to file

Dear List:

 

I got a program from this list a few years ago which allowed me to print a
report to a file.  Each page was a jpg.  I could then insert them into a
manual.  It worked great. 

 

But I cannot find it any more.  I think it installed like a printer but I
can't remember.  It was a free download from the net and I believe it was
from a Russian author.

 

I searched the archive but no luck. 

 

Does this ring a bell with anybody?

 

MTIA

 

Rocky

 

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From ssharkins at setel.com  Mon Nov 20 17:12:00 2006
From: ssharkins at setel.com (Susan Harkins)
Date: Mon, 20 Nov 2006 18:12:00 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Excel Import
In-Reply-To: <B7450F806572FD4AA30B664E5FE127FB125368@sherman.rtkl.rtkl.net>
Message-ID: <001e01c70cf9$48e69710$9cb82ad1@SUSANONE>

If you insert a new row at the bottom of the range, you don't have to
redefine the range -- Excel does it for you automatically. You could come up
with a macro that does the work for you. I swear, I wrote about that, but
I'd never find it now. But, here's how it would go -- you'd enter a record,
press Ctrl+I or some other keyboard hot key combination to imitate a macro
that would insert a new row at the bottom of the range and position your
cursor at the first cell in the new row -- that way, Excel is constantly
extending the range. 

Susan H. 

Thanks.  This worked.  Although, for an ongoing process...I can just see me
forgetting to re-define my range...and not uploading all the proper data.
:(  For now, however...this worked.  :)




From stuart at lexacorp.com.pg  Mon Nov 20 17:57:42 2006
From: stuart at lexacorp.com.pg (Stuart McLachlan)
Date: Tue, 21 Nov 2006 09:57:42 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] Print report to file
In-Reply-To: <01cb01c70cf5$b3471750$6401a8c0@HAL9005>
References: <01cb01c70cf5$b3471750$6401a8c0@HAL9005>
Message-ID: <4562CD96.28960.8EB9A65D@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>

On 20 Nov 2006 at 14:46, Beach Access Software wrote:

> I got a program from this list a few years ago which allowed me to print a
> report to a file.  Each page was a jpg.  I could then insert them into a
> manual.  It worked great. 
> 
>  
> 
> But I cannot find it any more.  I think it installed like a printer but I
> can't remember.  It was a free download from the net and I believe it was
> from a Russian author.
> 

I've got an old freeware one floating around somewhere that prints to TIFF, but it's not on this machine.  I'll see if it I can locate 
it later.

There are a number of commercial apps that do this and let you print to all  sorts of graphic formats.
They generally run around $40.

They include:
http://www.dobysoft.com/products/softcopy/index.html 
http://www.zan1011.com/    
http://www.eprintdriver.com/ePrintFilePrinter.html  
http://www.verypdf.com/artprint/




From Donald.A.McGillivray at sprint.com  Mon Nov 20 17:31:00 2006
From: Donald.A.McGillivray at sprint.com (McGillivray, Don [IT])
Date: Mon, 20 Nov 2006 17:31:00 -0600
Subject: [AccessD] Excel Import
In-Reply-To: <001e01c70cf9$48e69710$9cb82ad1@SUSANONE>
Message-ID: <EC829B33DF5B5B48A956B7A2E894AA9A0A71E710@PLSWB06C.ad.sprint.com>

True, but the inserted rows need to be ABOVE the last row in the existing range in order for this to work, no?  Not such a big deal if you're adding a row or two, but when adding large blocks of data, it can be a pain to insert exactly (or slightly more than) the number or rows you want before adding the data.  You definitely don't want to insert fewer than you will need.

I seem to remember somebody (Gustav?) posting some code a few months back that managed the dynamic expansion of a named range in Excel.  Don't remember how it worked, or anything else about it, but it looked like a useful thing for situations like this.  Does that ring a bell with anybody else?

Don

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Susan Harkins
Sent: Monday, November 20, 2006 3:12 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Excel Import

If you insert a new row at the bottom of the range, you don't have to
redefine the range -- Excel does it for you automatically. You could come up
with a macro that does the work for you. I swear, I wrote about that, but
I'd never find it now. But, here's how it would go -- you'd enter a record,
press Ctrl+I or some other keyboard hot key combination to imitate a macro
that would insert a new row at the bottom of the range and position your
cursor at the first cell in the new row -- that way, Excel is constantly
extending the range. 

Susan H. 

Thanks.  This worked.  Although, for an ongoing process...I can just see me
forgetting to re-define my range...and not uploading all the proper data.
:(  For now, however...this worked.  :)


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From bchacc at san.rr.com  Mon Nov 20 18:24:52 2006
From: bchacc at san.rr.com (Beach Access Software)
Date: Mon, 20 Nov 2006 16:24:52 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] Print report to file
In-Reply-To: <4562CD96.28960.8EB9A65D@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>
Message-ID: <01ea01c70d03$76da4ef0$6401a8c0@HAL9005>

Stuart:

IIRC, the one I had printed to a few formats including Windows Metafile.  I
had to do some experimenting to get a format I could use.  I think I opened
the original output from the program in some picture manipulator and saved
it in jpg.  

Rocky

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Stuart McLachlan
Sent: Monday, November 20, 2006 3:58 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Print report to file

On 20 Nov 2006 at 14:46, Beach Access Software wrote:

> I got a program from this list a few years ago which allowed me to print a
> report to a file.  Each page was a jpg.  I could then insert them into a
> manual.  It worked great. 
> 
>  
> 
> But I cannot find it any more.  I think it installed like a printer but I
> can't remember.  It was a free download from the net and I believe it was
> from a Russian author.
> 

I've got an old freeware one floating around somewhere that prints to TIFF,
but it's not on this machine.  I'll see if it I can locate 
it later.

There are a number of commercial apps that do this and let you print to all
sorts of graphic formats.
They generally run around $40.

They include:
http://www.dobysoft.com/products/softcopy/index.html 
http://www.zan1011.com/    
http://www.eprintdriver.com/ePrintFilePrinter.html  
http://www.verypdf.com/artprint/


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From artful at rogers.com  Mon Nov 20 18:24:59 2006
From: artful at rogers.com (artful at rogers.com)
Date: Mon, 20 Nov 2006 16:24:59 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [AccessD] Create object
Message-ID: <20061121002459.2971.qmail@web88214.mail.re2.yahoo.com>

Hmm, a clue. I know nothing about this software, but is there a way to open an instance on another computer?

Arthur

----- Original Message ----
From: Jim Lawrence <accessd at shaw.ca>
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Monday, November 20, 2006 12:26:20 PM
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Create object

Hi John:

The problem would appear to be with 3D-FTP which is designed to only open as
a single instance, per computer....

Jim






From stuart at lexacorp.com.pg  Mon Nov 20 18:47:59 2006
From: stuart at lexacorp.com.pg (Stuart McLachlan)
Date: Tue, 21 Nov 2006 10:47:59 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] Print report to file
In-Reply-To: <4562CD96.28960.8EB9A65D@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>
References: <01cb01c70cf5$b3471750$6401a8c0@HAL9005>,
	<4562CD96.28960.8EB9A65D@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>
Message-ID: <4562D95F.870.8EE7AFA5@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>

On 21 Nov 2006 at 9:57, Stuart McLachlan wrote:

 
> I've got an old freeware one floating around somewhere that prints to TIFF, but it's not on this machine.  I'll see if it I can locate 
> it later.
> 

Found it.   PrintToPicture by Gretchko Juriy.

It creates BMP,PCX or PNG images of printed pages.

His web page at http://progrex.narod.ru/ptp.html doesn't seem to exist any more so
I've put my copy at  http://www.lexacorp.com.pg/printToPicture101.exe






From k.williamson5 at verizon.net  Mon Nov 20 18:59:34 2006
From: k.williamson5 at verizon.net (Keith Williamson)
Date: Mon, 20 Nov 2006 19:59:34 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Excel Import
In-Reply-To: <EC829B33DF5B5B48A956B7A2E894AA9A0A71E710@PLSWB06C.ad.sprint.com>
Message-ID: <001801c70d08$5483ed20$650010ac@KeithHome>

Well, guys...don't sweat it too much.  I'm having to go through hoops right
now, while I wait on our damned MIS person to finally give me an ODBC access
to the application database.  In the meantime, I am downloading data, and
loading it into my own db to work with.  Ultimately, I'll have linked tables
and won't have to do this anymore.

I just found it to be an extremely odd thing to encounter.  Never ran into
this before....and I've done a LOT of excel imports.  {sigh}

Thanks for the advice.

Regards,

Keith

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of McGillivray, Don
[IT]
Sent: Monday, November 20, 2006 6:31 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Excel Import

True, but the inserted rows need to be ABOVE the last row in the existing
range in order for this to work, no?  Not such a big deal if you're adding a
row or two, but when adding large blocks of data, it can be a pain to insert
exactly (or slightly more than) the number or rows you want before adding
the data.  You definitely don't want to insert fewer than you will need.

I seem to remember somebody (Gustav?) posting some code a few months back
that managed the dynamic expansion of a named range in Excel.  Don't
remember how it worked, or anything else about it, but it looked like a
useful thing for situations like this.  Does that ring a bell with anybody
else?

Don

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Susan Harkins
Sent: Monday, November 20, 2006 3:12 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Excel Import

If you insert a new row at the bottom of the range, you don't have to
redefine the range -- Excel does it for you automatically. You could come up
with a macro that does the work for you. I swear, I wrote about that, but
I'd never find it now. But, here's how it would go -- you'd enter a record,
press Ctrl+I or some other keyboard hot key combination to imitate a macro
that would insert a new row at the bottom of the range and position your
cursor at the first cell in the new row -- that way, Excel is constantly
extending the range. 

Susan H. 

Thanks.  This worked.  Although, for an ongoing process...I can just see me
forgetting to re-define my range...and not uploading all the proper data.
:(  For now, however...this worked.  :)


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From ssharkins at setel.com  Mon Nov 20 20:29:10 2006
From: ssharkins at setel.com (Susan Harkins)
Date: Mon, 20 Nov 2006 21:29:10 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Excel Import
In-Reply-To: <EC829B33DF5B5B48A956B7A2E894AA9A0A71E710@PLSWB06C.ad.sprint.com>
Message-ID: <000b01c70d14$e0d08f20$18bc2ad1@SUSANONE>

 

True, but the inserted rows need to be ABOVE the last row in the existing
range in order for this to work, no?  Not such a big deal if you're adding a
row or two, but when adding large blocks of data, it can be a pain to insert
exactly (or slightly more than) the number or rows you want before adding
the data.  You definitely don't want to insert fewer than you will need.

=======Right -- actually, the inserted row can be anywhere within the range.


Susan H. 



From martyconnelly at shaw.ca  Mon Nov 20 20:39:54 2006
From: martyconnelly at shaw.ca (MartyConnelly)
Date: Mon, 20 Nov 2006 18:39:54 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] FW: [U] Soldier in Iraq needs Access Help
In-Reply-To: <000e01c70ceb$58dd3b50$bab62ad1@SUSANONE>
References: <000e01c70ceb$58dd3b50$bab62ad1@SUSANONE>
Message-ID: <456266FA.4050804@shaw.ca>


SQL Server 2005 Express Edition with Advanced Services SP1   234 Meg
http://msdn.microsoft.com/vstudio/express/sql/download/
Advanced Services contains the following features:

SQL Server Management Studio Express, a graphical management tool based 
on SQL Server Management Studio that makes it easy to
manage and administer SQL Server Express databases.

Reporting Services, an integrated report creation and design environment 
to create reports.

Full-Text Search, a powerful search engine for searching text-intensive 
data.


However   Note this about Vista and MSDE non support

In an effort to provide customers with more secure products, Microsoft 
Windows Server "Longhorn" and Microsoft Windows Vista will only
support SQL Server 2005 Service Pack 2 (SP2) or later when it becomes 
available. Earlier versions of SQL Server, including SQL Server 2000
(all editions including Desktop Engine edition, a.k.a MSDE), SQL Server 
7.0, and SQL Server 6.5, will not be supported on Windows Server
"Longhorn" or Windows Vista.

http://www.microsoft.com/sql/howtobuy/sqlonvista.mspx

You can use the Export functionality in Access to send data to a number 
of places, including SQL Server. You should be able to find information

on this in the Access help file, but here is the general process:
http://forums.microsoft.com/MSDN/ShowPost.aspx?PostID=295865&SiteID=1

Open your database in Access and choose the Export option.
Choose ODBC Database from the Files of Type list.
Follow the wizard to create a DSN to your SQL Express instance.
Pick the tables and click OK.
You will need to enable TCP connections to SQL in order for Access to be 
able to connect and if the SQL Express server is on a different

computer than Access you'll need to open Exceptions in the firewall on 
the server computer. Instructions on how to do that are at

http://blogs.msdn.com/sqlexpress/archive/2004/07/23/192044.aspx
http://blogs.msdn.com/sqlexpress/default.aspx
Regards,

Mike Wachal
SQL Express team

FAQ: How to connect to SQL Express from "downlevel clients"(Access 2003, 
VS 2003, VB 6, etc(basically anything that is not using .Net 2.0 or

the new SQL Native Client))
http://blogs.msdn.com/sqlexpress/archive/2004/07/23/192044.aspx

Susan Harkins wrote:

> 
>I would probably do this with SQL Server 2005 Express Edition with Advanced
>Services.SQL Server 2005 Express Edition with Advanced Services is perfect
>for use as a backend to a small, multiuser application that requires more
>advanced features such as Web reporting or Full-text Search.
>You could do this with the full version of SQL 2000 but now is available in
>Express.
>
>========Are you sure that full-text search is supported by Express? 
>
>Susan H. 
>
>  
>

-- 
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Victoria, B.C.
Canada



From martyconnelly at shaw.ca  Mon Nov 20 20:49:56 2006
From: martyconnelly at shaw.ca (MartyConnelly)
Date: Mon, 20 Nov 2006 18:49:56 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] Create object
In-Reply-To: <20061121002459.2971.qmail@web88214.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
References: <20061121002459.2971.qmail@web88214.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <45626954.4040201@shaw.ca>

I think if you look through the registry it will be either multi or 
single instance
registration

artful at rogers.com wrote:

>Hmm, a clue. I know nothing about this software, but is there a way to open an instance on another computer?
>
>Arthur
>
>----- Original Message ----
>From: Jim Lawrence <accessd at shaw.ca>
>To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
>Sent: Monday, November 20, 2006 12:26:20 PM
>Subject: Re: [AccessD] Create object
>
>Hi John:
>
>The problem would appear to be with 3D-FTP which is designed to only open as
>a single instance, per computer....
>
>Jim
>
>
>
>
>  
>

-- 
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Victoria, B.C.
Canada



From kp at sdsonline.net  Mon Nov 20 22:16:12 2006
From: kp at sdsonline.net (Kath Pelletti)
Date: Tue, 21 Nov 2006 15:16:12 +1100
Subject: [AccessD] CommonDialog 2000 to 2003
Message-ID: <000a01c70d23$c81934a0$6501a8c0@office>

I've been working through converting an A2K app to Access 2003 and most issues are resolved. But I am just wondering whther anyone has a sample of a form with a browse / save dialog for me to see in 2003 - I had that all working in 2000 but it seems to have changed significantly.

rgds

______________________________________
Kath Pelletti
Software Design and Solutions Pty Ltd.
Ph: 9505-6714
Fax: 9505-6430
Email: KP at SDSOnline.net

From bchacc at san.rr.com  Tue Nov 21 01:25:27 2006
From: bchacc at san.rr.com (Beach Access Software)
Date: Mon, 20 Nov 2006 23:25:27 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] Print report to file
In-Reply-To: <4562D95F.870.8EE7AFA5@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>
Message-ID: <020401c70d3e$381ce660$6401a8c0@HAL9005>

Stuart:

That's it!  That will be a lifesaver.  

But for some reason the link isn't working.  I get a 404 - not found on this
server.

Can you send it off-line to me?  

Thanks and regards,

Rocky


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Stuart McLachlan
Sent: Monday, November 20, 2006 4:48 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Print report to file

On 21 Nov 2006 at 9:57, Stuart McLachlan wrote:

 
> I've got an old freeware one floating around somewhere that prints to
TIFF, but it's not on this machine.  I'll see if it I can locate 
> it later.
> 

Found it.   PrintToPicture by Gretchko Juriy.

It creates BMP,PCX or PNG images of printed pages.

His web page at http://progrex.narod.ru/ptp.html doesn't seem to exist any
more so
I've put my copy at  http://www.lexacorp.com.pg/printToPicture101.exe




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From andy at minstersystems.co.uk  Tue Nov 21 02:20:57 2006
From: andy at minstersystems.co.uk (Andy Lacey)
Date: Tue, 21 Nov 2006 08:20:57 -0000
Subject: [AccessD] Print report to file
In-Reply-To: <4562D95F.870.8EE7AFA5@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>
Message-ID: <00cc01c70d45$f9f3fdd0$54a20c54@minster33c3r25>

Stuart the link isn't working, or at least not for me.

-- Andy Lacey
http://www.minstersystems.co.uk 

> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com 
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of 
> Stuart McLachlan
> Sent: 21 November 2006 00:48
> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] Print report to file
> 
> 
> On 21 Nov 2006 at 9:57, Stuart McLachlan wrote:
> 
>  
> > I've got an old freeware one floating around somewhere that 
> prints to 
> > TIFF, but it's not on this machine.  I'll see if it I can locate
> > it later.
> > 
> 
> Found it.   PrintToPicture by Gretchko Juriy.
> 
> It creates BMP,PCX or PNG images of printed pages.
> 
> His web page at http://progrex.narod.ru/ptp.html doesn't seem 
> to exist any more so I've put my copy at  
> http://www.lexacorp.com.pg/printToPicture101.exe
> 
> 
> 
> 
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> 




From stuart at lexacorp.com.pg  Tue Nov 21 03:38:51 2006
From: stuart at lexacorp.com.pg (Stuart McLachlan)
Date: Tue, 21 Nov 2006 19:38:51 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] Print report to file
In-Reply-To: <020401c70d3e$381ce660$6401a8c0@HAL9005>
References: <4562D95F.870.8EE7AFA5@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>,
	<020401c70d3e$381ce660$6401a8c0@HAL9005>
Message-ID: <4562C92B.19041.B6F9ED3@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>

Sorry, wrong URL. I forgot to type the directory :-(

http://www.lexacorp.com.pg/soft/printToPicture101.exe

On 20 Nov 2006 at 23:25, Beach Access Software wrote:

> Stuart:
> 
> That's it!  That will be a lifesaver.  
> 
> But for some reason the link isn't working.  I get a 404 - not found on this
> server.
> 
> Can you send it off-line to me?  
> 
> Thanks and regards,
> 
> Rocky
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Stuart McLachlan
> Sent: Monday, November 20, 2006 4:48 PM To: Access Developers discussion and
> problem solving Subject: Re: [AccessD] Print report to file
> 
> On 21 Nov 2006 at 9:57, Stuart McLachlan wrote:
> 
> 
> > I've got an old freeware one floating around somewhere that prints to
> TIFF, but it's not on this machine.  I'll see if it I can locate 
> > it later.
> > 
> 
> Found it.   PrintToPicture by Gretchko Juriy.
> 
> It creates BMP,PCX or PNG images of printed pages.
> 
> His web page at http://progrex.narod.ru/ptp.html doesn't seem to exist any
> more so I've put my copy at 
> http://www.lexacorp.com.pg/printToPicture101.exe
> 
> 
> 
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From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com  Tue Nov 21 04:08:23 2006
From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (JWColby)
Date: Tue, 21 Nov 2006 05:08:23 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Create object
In-Reply-To: <45626954.4040201@shaw.ca>
Message-ID: <001f01c70d54$fb1c0540$657aa8c0@m6805>

And how do you tell this? 


John W. Colby
Colby Consulting
www.ColbyConsulting.com

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of MartyConnelly
Sent: Monday, November 20, 2006 9:50 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Create object

I think if you look through the registry it will be either multi or single
instance registration

artful at rogers.com wrote:

>Hmm, a clue. I know nothing about this software, but is there a way to open
an instance on another computer?
>
>Arthur
>
>----- Original Message ----
>From: Jim Lawrence <accessd at shaw.ca>
>To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving 
><accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
>Sent: Monday, November 20, 2006 12:26:20 PM
>Subject: Re: [AccessD] Create object
>
>Hi John:
>
>The problem would appear to be with 3D-FTP which is designed to only 
>open as a single instance, per computer....
>
>Jim
>
>
>
>
>  
>

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From Gustav at cactus.dk  Tue Nov 21 05:28:23 2006
From: Gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Tue, 21 Nov 2006 12:28:23 +0100
Subject: [AccessD] Excel Import
Message-ID: <s562f104.064@cactus.dk>

Hi Don

Perhaps this about Dynamic Named Ranges:

http://databaseadvisors.com/pipermail/accessd/2006-March/042838.html 

Unfortunately, exactly such a range can _not_ be used as the source when linking or importing.

/gustav

>>> Donald.A.McGillivray at sprint.com 21-11-2006 00:31:00 >>>
True, but the inserted rows need to be ABOVE the last row in the existing range in order for this to work, no?  Not such a big deal if you're adding a row or two, but when adding large blocks of data, it can be a pain to insert exactly (or slightly more than) the number or rows you want before adding the data.  You definitely don't want to insert fewer than you will need.

I seem to remember somebody (Gustav?) posting some code a few months back that managed the dynamic expansion of a named range in Excel.  Don't remember how it worked, or anything else about it, but it looked like a useful thing for situations like this.  Does that ring a bell with anybody else?

Don

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Susan Harkins
Sent: Monday, November 20, 2006 3:12 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Excel Import

If you insert a new row at the bottom of the range, you don't have to
redefine the range -- Excel does it for you automatically. You could come up
with a macro that does the work for you. I swear, I wrote about that, but
I'd never find it now. But, here's how it would go -- you'd enter a record,
press Ctrl+I or some other keyboard hot key combination to imitate a macro
that would insert a new row at the bottom of the range and position your
cursor at the first cell in the new row -- that way, Excel is constantly
extending the range. 

Susan H. 

Thanks.  This worked.  Although, for an ongoing process...I can just see me
forgetting to re-define my range...and not uploading all the proper data.
:(  For now, however...this worked.  :)




From Gustav at cactus.dk  Tue Nov 21 05:47:10 2006
From: Gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Tue, 21 Nov 2006 12:47:10 +0100
Subject: [AccessD] Print report to file
Message-ID: <s562f55b.066@cactus.dk>

Hi Stuart and Rocky

There was a ptp102.zip as well. However, I've lost it, and a Russian site:

http://softok.org/multimedia/oth/3026dload.html 

where it should be for download is offline.

If anyone has the file, please drop me a message.

/gustav


>>> stuart at lexacorp.com.pg 21-11-2006 10:38:51 >>>
Sorry, wrong URL. I forgot to type the directory :-(

http://www.lexacorp.com.pg/soft/printToPicture101.exe 

On 20 Nov 2006 at 23:25, Beach Access Software wrote:

> Stuart:
> 
> That's it!  That will be a lifesaver.  
> 
> But for some reason the link isn't working.  I get a 404 - not found on this
> server.
> 
> Can you send it off-line to me?  
> 
> Thanks and regards,
> 
> Rocky
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com 
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Stuart McLachlan
> Sent: Monday, November 20, 2006 4:48 PM To: Access Developers discussion and
> problem solving Subject: Re: [AccessD] Print report to file
> 
> On 21 Nov 2006 at 9:57, Stuart McLachlan wrote:
> 
> 
> > I've got an old freeware one floating around somewhere that prints to
> TIFF, but it's not on this machine.  I'll see if it I can locate 
> > it later.
> > 
> 
> Found it.   PrintToPicture by Gretchko Juriy.
> 
> It creates BMP,PCX or PNG images of printed pages.
> 
> His web page at http://progrex.narod.ru/ptp.html doesn't seem to exist any
> more so I've put my copy at 
> http://www.lexacorp.com.pg/printToPicture101.exe 




From bchacc at san.rr.com  Tue Nov 21 09:49:49 2006
From: bchacc at san.rr.com (Beach Access Software)
Date: Tue, 21 Nov 2006 07:49:49 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] Print report to file
In-Reply-To: <4562C92B.19041.B6F9ED3@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>
Message-ID: <001701c70d84$ad7727e0$6401a8c0@HAL9005>

Got it, Stuart!  Thanks.  It's a life saver.

Rocky


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Stuart McLachlan
Sent: Tuesday, November 21, 2006 1:39 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Print report to file

Sorry, wrong URL. I forgot to type the directory :-(

http://www.lexacorp.com.pg/soft/printToPicture101.exe

On 20 Nov 2006 at 23:25, Beach Access Software wrote:

> Stuart:
> 
> That's it!  That will be a lifesaver.  
> 
> But for some reason the link isn't working.  I get a 404 - not found on
this
> server.
> 
> Can you send it off-line to me?  
> 
> Thanks and regards,
> 
> Rocky
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Stuart
McLachlan
> Sent: Monday, November 20, 2006 4:48 PM To: Access Developers discussion
and
> problem solving Subject: Re: [AccessD] Print report to file
> 
> On 21 Nov 2006 at 9:57, Stuart McLachlan wrote:
> 
> 
> > I've got an old freeware one floating around somewhere that prints to
> TIFF, but it's not on this machine.  I'll see if it I can locate 
> > it later.
> > 
> 
> Found it.   PrintToPicture by Gretchko Juriy.
> 
> It creates BMP,PCX or PNG images of printed pages.
> 
> His web page at http://progrex.narod.ru/ptp.html doesn't seem to exist any
> more so I've put my copy at 
> http://www.lexacorp.com.pg/printToPicture101.exe
> 
> 
> 
> 
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From shamil at users.mns.ru  Tue Nov 21 09:52:53 2006
From: shamil at users.mns.ru (Shamil Salakhetdinov)
Date: Tue, 21 Nov 2006 18:52:53 +0300
Subject: [AccessD] Print report to file
In-Reply-To: <s562f55b.066@cactus.dk>
Message-ID: <001201c70d85$1b045a30$6401a8c0@nant>

Gustav,

This seems to be a live link to this program but I'm note sure is that the
same version you used or not:

Watch line wraps:

http://ip114-110.cpe.tktor.ru:8000/files/CD-R-%eb%cf%cd%d0%d8%c0%d4%c5%d2%f0
%d2%c5%d3%d3-12-2004/SOFT/soft_grafics/ptp102/


It can be found via www.yandex.com (Russian Internet search engine) using
ptp102.zip as search criteria.

--
Shamil
 
-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gustav Brock
Sent: Tuesday, November 21, 2006 2:47 PM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Print report to file

Hi Stuart and Rocky

There was a ptp102.zip as well. However, I've lost it, and a Russian site:

http://softok.org/multimedia/oth/3026dload.html 

where it should be for download is offline.

If anyone has the file, please drop me a message.

/gustav


>>> stuart at lexacorp.com.pg 21-11-2006 10:38:51 >>>
Sorry, wrong URL. I forgot to type the directory :-(

http://www.lexacorp.com.pg/soft/printToPicture101.exe 

On 20 Nov 2006 at 23:25, Beach Access Software wrote:

> Stuart:
> 
> That's it!  That will be a lifesaver.  
> 
> But for some reason the link isn't working.  I get a 404 - not found on
this
> server.
> 
> Can you send it off-line to me?  
> 
> Thanks and regards,
> 
> Rocky
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com 
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Stuart
McLachlan
> Sent: Monday, November 20, 2006 4:48 PM To: Access Developers discussion
and
> problem solving Subject: Re: [AccessD] Print report to file
> 
> On 21 Nov 2006 at 9:57, Stuart McLachlan wrote:
> 
> 
> > I've got an old freeware one floating around somewhere that prints to
> TIFF, but it's not on this machine.  I'll see if it I can locate 
> > it later.
> > 
> 
> Found it.   PrintToPicture by Gretchko Juriy.
> 
> It creates BMP,PCX or PNG images of printed pages.
> 
> His web page at http://progrex.narod.ru/ptp.html doesn't seem to exist any
> more so I've put my copy at 
> http://www.lexacorp.com.pg/printToPicture101.exe 


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From Gustav at cactus.dk  Tue Nov 21 10:30:46 2006
From: Gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Tue, 21 Nov 2006 17:30:46 +0100
Subject: [AccessD] Print report to file
Message-ID: <s56337da.078@cactus.dk>

Hi Shamil

That's it! Thanks Shamil - never heard of that search engine. Great.

For anyone else interested in transforming or printing reports directly to picture files, here are the notes for that version:

<quote>

Utility Print To Picture (PTP) is intended for transformation of a printer conclusion of applications Windows to sets of raster graphic documents (pictures). 
Easier speaking, with the help of utility PTP, any applications Windows can make a seal in a picture, the same way, as on the printer. 

The basic characteristics of a product:

Operation system Windows 2000 or Windows XP or Windows 2003 Server 
Output format PCX, BMP or PNG 
Colority Black and White 
"Paper" form's A4, A5, square 100x100 mm, 120x120 mm, 150x150 mm, 
envelopes 160x114 mm, 229x114 mm, 229x162 mm 
Resolution 600,300,200,150,100,75,60,50 dpi 
Halftoning Supercell or offset cell from 2x2 to 16x16 points 
Page control Single page per print or multiple pages  
Cutting mode By picture content; optional 

In addition the utility allows to establish and delete printers for a seal in a picture.

</quote>

Note that it is freeware.

/gustav


>>> shamil at users.mns.ru 21-11-2006 16:52:53 >>>
Gustav,

This seems to be a live link to this program but I'm note sure is that the
same version you used or not:

Watch line wraps:

http://ip114-110.cpe.tktor.ru:8000/files/CD-R-%eb%cf%cd%d0%d8%c0%d4%c5%d2%f0%d2%c5%d3%d3-12-2004/SOFT/soft_grafics/ptp102/


It can be found via www.yandex.com (Russian Internet search engine) using
ptp102.zip as search criteria.

--
Shamil
 
-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com 
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gustav Brock
Sent: Tuesday, November 21, 2006 2:47 PM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com 
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Print report to file

Hi Stuart and Rocky

There was a ptp102.zip as well. However, I've lost it, and a Russian site:

http://softok.org/multimedia/oth/3026dload.html 

where it should be for download is offline.

If anyone has the file, please drop me a message.

/gustav


>>> stuart at lexacorp.com.pg 21-11-2006 10:38:51 >>>
Sorry, wrong URL. I forgot to type the directory :-(

http://www.lexacorp.com.pg/soft/printToPicture101.exe 

On 20 Nov 2006 at 23:25, Beach Access Software wrote:

> Stuart:
> 
> That's it!  That will be a lifesaver.  
> 
> But for some reason the link isn't working.  I get a 404 - not found on this
> server.
> 
> Can you send it off-line to me?  
> 
> Thanks and regards,
> 
> Rocky
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com 
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Stuart McLachlan
> Sent: Monday, November 20, 2006 4:48 PM To: Access Developers discussion and
> problem solving Subject: Re: [AccessD] Print report to file
> 
> On 21 Nov 2006 at 9:57, Stuart McLachlan wrote:
> 
> 
> > I've got an old freeware one floating around somewhere that prints to TIFF, but it's not on this machine.  I'll see if it I can locate 
> > it later.
> > 
> 
> Found it.   PrintToPicture by Gretchko Juriy.
> 
> It creates BMP,PCX or PNG images of printed pages.
> 
> His web page at http://progrex.narod.ru/ptp.html doesn't seem to exist any
> more so I've put my copy at 
> http://www.lexacorp.com.pg/printToPicture101.exe 



From shamil at users.mns.ru  Tue Nov 21 12:28:58 2006
From: shamil at users.mns.ru (Shamil Salakhetdinov)
Date: Tue, 21 Nov 2006 21:28:58 +0300
Subject: [AccessD] Print report to file
In-Reply-To: <s56337da.078@cactus.dk>
Message-ID: <001401c70d9a$e95fc1c0$6401a8c0@nant>

<<<
never heard of that search engine.
>>>
Hi Gustav,

I think it appeared before Google, at least I did get it known before
Google. The issue is that it's mainly in Cyrillic but if you have windows
version with Cyrillic fonts installed like e.g. I do have US/English with
Cyrillic then you can just use search textbox of this search engine and you
can type English search keywords in it and you can find some useful stuff in
English, which isn't visible on Google....

BTW, here is a useful rather good free service to translate web pages
including Russian -> English:
http://www.online-translator.com/default.asp?lang=en


--
Shamil
 
-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gustav Brock
Sent: Tuesday, November 21, 2006 7:31 PM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Print report to file

Hi Shamil

That's it! Thanks Shamil - never heard of that search engine. Great.

For anyone else interested in transforming or printing reports directly to
picture files, here are the notes for that version:

<quote>

Utility Print To Picture (PTP) is intended for transformation of a printer
conclusion of applications Windows to sets of raster graphic documents
(pictures). 
Easier speaking, with the help of utility PTP, any applications Windows can
make a seal in a picture, the same way, as on the printer. 

The basic characteristics of a product:

Operation system Windows 2000 or Windows XP or Windows 2003 Server 
Output format PCX, BMP or PNG 
Colority Black and White 
"Paper" form's A4, A5, square 100x100 mm, 120x120 mm, 150x150 mm, 
envelopes 160x114 mm, 229x114 mm, 229x162 mm 
Resolution 600,300,200,150,100,75,60,50 dpi 
Halftoning Supercell or offset cell from 2x2 to 16x16 points 
Page control Single page per print or multiple pages  
Cutting mode By picture content; optional 

In addition the utility allows to establish and delete printers for a seal
in a picture.

</quote>

Note that it is freeware.

/gustav


>>> shamil at users.mns.ru 21-11-2006 16:52:53 >>>
Gustav,

This seems to be a live link to this program but I'm note sure is that the
same version you used or not:

Watch line wraps:

http://ip114-110.cpe.tktor.ru:8000/files/CD-R-%eb%cf%cd%d0%d8%c0%d4%c5%d2%f0
%d2%c5%d3%d3-12-2004/SOFT/soft_grafics/ptp102/


It can be found via www.yandex.com (Russian Internet search engine) using
ptp102.zip as search criteria.

--
Shamil
 
-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com 
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gustav Brock
Sent: Tuesday, November 21, 2006 2:47 PM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com 
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Print report to file

Hi Stuart and Rocky

There was a ptp102.zip as well. However, I've lost it, and a Russian site:

http://softok.org/multimedia/oth/3026dload.html 

where it should be for download is offline.

If anyone has the file, please drop me a message.

/gustav


>>> stuart at lexacorp.com.pg 21-11-2006 10:38:51 >>>
Sorry, wrong URL. I forgot to type the directory :-(

http://www.lexacorp.com.pg/soft/printToPicture101.exe 

On 20 Nov 2006 at 23:25, Beach Access Software wrote:

> Stuart:
> 
> That's it!  That will be a lifesaver.  
> 
> But for some reason the link isn't working.  I get a 404 - not found on
this
> server.
> 
> Can you send it off-line to me?  
> 
> Thanks and regards,
> 
> Rocky
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com 
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Stuart
McLachlan
> Sent: Monday, November 20, 2006 4:48 PM To: Access Developers discussion
and
> problem solving Subject: Re: [AccessD] Print report to file
> 
> On 21 Nov 2006 at 9:57, Stuart McLachlan wrote:
> 
> 
> > I've got an old freeware one floating around somewhere that prints to
TIFF, but it's not on this machine.  I'll see if it I can locate 
> > it later.
> > 
> 
> Found it.   PrintToPicture by Gretchko Juriy.
> 
> It creates BMP,PCX or PNG images of printed pages.
> 
> His web page at http://progrex.narod.ru/ptp.html doesn't seem to exist any
> more so I've put my copy at 
> http://www.lexacorp.com.pg/printToPicture101.exe 

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From Gustav at cactus.dk  Tue Nov 21 13:02:30 2006
From: Gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Tue, 21 Nov 2006 20:02:30 +0100
Subject: [AccessD] Print report to file
Message-ID: <s5635b70.080@cactus.dk>

Hi Shamil

Thanks, that may be of help - though I on another Russian site managed to read "no results" in Russian ...

/gustav

>>> shamil at users.mns.ru 21-11-2006 19:28:58 >>>
<<<
never heard of that search engine.
>>>
Hi Gustav,

I think it appeared before Google, at least I did get it known before
Google. The issue is that it's mainly in Cyrillic but if you have windows
version with Cyrillic fonts installed like e.g. I do have US/English with
Cyrillic then you can just use search textbox of this search engine and you
can type English search keywords in it and you can find some useful stuff in
English, which isn't visible on Google....

BTW, here is a useful rather good free service to translate web pages
including Russian -> English:
http://www.online-translator.com/default.asp?lang=en 


--
Shamil
 
-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com 
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gustav Brock
Sent: Tuesday, November 21, 2006 7:31 PM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com 
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Print report to file

Hi Shamil

That's it! Thanks Shamil - never heard of that search engine. Great.

For anyone else interested in transforming or printing reports directly to
picture files, here are the notes for that version:

<quote>

Utility Print To Picture (PTP) is intended for transformation of a printer
conclusion of applications Windows to sets of raster graphic documents
(pictures). 
Easier speaking, with the help of utility PTP, any applications Windows can
make a seal in a picture, the same way, as on the printer. 

The basic characteristics of a product:

Operation system Windows 2000 or Windows XP or Windows 2003 Server 
Output format PCX, BMP or PNG 
Colority Black and White 
"Paper" form's A4, A5, square 100x100 mm, 120x120 mm, 150x150 mm, 
envelopes 160x114 mm, 229x114 mm, 229x162 mm 
Resolution 600,300,200,150,100,75,60,50 dpi 
Halftoning Supercell or offset cell from 2x2 to 16x16 points 
Page control Single page per print or multiple pages  
Cutting mode By picture content; optional 

In addition the utility allows to establish and delete printers for a seal
in a picture.

</quote>

Note that it is freeware.

/gustav


>>> shamil at users.mns.ru 21-11-2006 16:52:53 >>>
Gustav,

This seems to be a live link to this program but I'm note sure is that the
same version you used or not:

Watch line wraps:

http://ip114-110.cpe.tktor.ru:8000/files/CD-R-%eb%cf%cd%d0%d8%c0%d4%c5%d2%f0 
%d2%c5%d3%d3-12-2004/SOFT/soft_grafics/ptp102/


It can be found via www.yandex.com (Russian Internet search engine) using
ptp102.zip as search criteria.

--
Shamil
 
-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com 
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gustav Brock
Sent: Tuesday, November 21, 2006 2:47 PM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com 
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Print report to file

Hi Stuart and Rocky

There was a ptp102.zip as well. However, I've lost it, and a Russian site:

http://softok.org/multimedia/oth/3026dload.html 

where it should be for download is offline.

If anyone has the file, please drop me a message.

/gustav



From Gustav at cactus.dk  Tue Nov 21 13:06:59 2006
From: Gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Tue, 21 Nov 2006 20:06:59 +0100
Subject: [AccessD] Print report to file
Message-ID: <s5635c7e.081@cactus.dk>

Hi Rocky

You better put this life saver of yours in a safe place this time!
Or we can expect to have you whining here again in a year or so:

http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/htdig/accessd/2005-June/035448.html 

/gustav


> On 20 Nov 2006 at 23:25, Beach Access Software wrote:

> That's it!  That will be a lifesaver.  
> Rocky





From accessd at shaw.ca  Tue Nov 21 13:13:49 2006
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Tue, 21 Nov 2006 11:13:49 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] FW: [U] Soldier in Iraq needs Access Help
In-Reply-To: <456266FA.4050804@shaw.ca>
Message-ID: <0J9300G0GHCPHXA1@l-daemon>

It appears that MS, to that end, has set all their MS SQL products
time-sensitive. Any partner copies of MS SQL 2000 that have not been
installed within a certain time period will not install. 

Upon a discussion with a MS rep, though not official, it was described as an
attempt to move their partners away from supporting older versions and
towards the latest offering. This of course cause some issues with
supporting clients who have large investments in an older MS SQL and the
developer having to borrow their legal copy so a development site can be
created.... legal? I guess the push is not to continue supporting current
SQL but to encourage clients to upgrade and developer to retrain.

Comments?
Jim       

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of MartyConnelly
Sent: Monday, November 20, 2006 6:40 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] FW: [U] Soldier in Iraq needs Access Help


SQL Server 2005 Express Edition with Advanced Services SP1   234 Meg
http://msdn.microsoft.com/vstudio/express/sql/download/
Advanced Services contains the following features:

SQL Server Management Studio Express, a graphical management tool based 
on SQL Server Management Studio that makes it easy to
manage and administer SQL Server Express databases.

Reporting Services, an integrated report creation and design environment 
to create reports.

Full-Text Search, a powerful search engine for searching text-intensive 
data.


However   Note this about Vista and MSDE non support

In an effort to provide customers with more secure products, Microsoft 
Windows Server "Longhorn" and Microsoft Windows Vista will only
support SQL Server 2005 Service Pack 2 (SP2) or later when it becomes 
available. Earlier versions of SQL Server, including SQL Server 2000
(all editions including Desktop Engine edition, a.k.a MSDE), SQL Server 
7.0, and SQL Server 6.5, will not be supported on Windows Server
"Longhorn" or Windows Vista.

http://www.microsoft.com/sql/howtobuy/sqlonvista.mspx

You can use the Export functionality in Access to send data to a number 
of places, including SQL Server. You should be able to find information

on this in the Access help file, but here is the general process:
http://forums.microsoft.com/MSDN/ShowPost.aspx?PostID=295865&SiteID=1

Open your database in Access and choose the Export option.
Choose ODBC Database from the Files of Type list.
Follow the wizard to create a DSN to your SQL Express instance.
Pick the tables and click OK.
You will need to enable TCP connections to SQL in order for Access to be 
able to connect and if the SQL Express server is on a different

computer than Access you'll need to open Exceptions in the firewall on 
the server computer. Instructions on how to do that are at

http://blogs.msdn.com/sqlexpress/archive/2004/07/23/192044.aspx
http://blogs.msdn.com/sqlexpress/default.aspx
Regards,

Mike Wachal
SQL Express team

FAQ: How to connect to SQL Express from "downlevel clients"(Access 2003, 
VS 2003, VB 6, etc(basically anything that is not using .Net 2.0 or

the new SQL Native Client))
http://blogs.msdn.com/sqlexpress/archive/2004/07/23/192044.aspx

Susan Harkins wrote:

> 
>I would probably do this with SQL Server 2005 Express Edition with Advanced
>Services.SQL Server 2005 Express Edition with Advanced Services is perfect
>for use as a backend to a small, multiuser application that requires more
>advanced features such as Web reporting or Full-text Search.
>You could do this with the full version of SQL 2000 but now is available in
>Express.
>
>========Are you sure that full-text search is supported by Express? 
>
>Susan H. 
>
>  
>

-- 
Marty Connelly
Victoria, B.C.
Canada

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From wdhindman at dejpolsystems.com  Tue Nov 21 14:04:43 2006
From: wdhindman at dejpolsystems.com (William Hindman)
Date: Tue, 21 Nov 2006 15:04:43 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Print report to file
References: <s5635c7e.081@cactus.dk>
Message-ID: <002b01c70da8$4a031010$3e3de844@50NM721>

...my, my, my ...taking people to the woodshed before supper :)

...problem is, it's often easier to ask here than go searching through huge 
hard drives on half a dozen different systems ...I know I've done it myself 
:(

...but sometimes, the Watcher catches you :)

William Hindman

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Gustav Brock" <Gustav at cactus.dk>
To: <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Tuesday, November 21, 2006 2:06 PM
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Print report to file


> Hi Rocky
>
> You better put this life saver of yours in a safe place this time!
> Or we can expect to have you whining here again in a year or so:
>
> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/htdig/accessd/2005-June/035448.html
>
> /gustav
>
>
>> On 20 Nov 2006 at 23:25, Beach Access Software wrote:
>
>> That's it!  That will be a lifesaver.
>> Rocky
>
>
>
> -- 
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> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd
> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com
> 





From mwp.reid at qub.ac.uk  Tue Nov 21 14:06:12 2006
From: mwp.reid at qub.ac.uk (Martin Reid)
Date: Tue, 21 Nov 2006 20:06:12 -0000
Subject: [AccessD] Hey Shamil
References: <001401c70d9a$e95fc1c0$6401a8c0@nant>
Message-ID: <D0BF9C78D1C45C418541C852C8944FE2010861DA@qub-xchange-01.ads.qub.ac.uk>

Had a girl from your city on my course today.
 
Svetlana Svyatko
 
Her brother is a student at the University you worked at in St Petersburg.
 
Martin
 
 
Martin WP Reid
Training and Assessment Unit
Riddle Hall
Belfast
 
tel: 02890 974477
 
 

From shamil at users.mns.ru  Tue Nov 21 15:09:51 2006
From: shamil at users.mns.ru (Shamil Salakhetdinov)
Date: Wed, 22 Nov 2006 00:09:51 +0300
Subject: [AccessD] OT: RE:  Hey Shamil
In-Reply-To: <D0BF9C78D1C45C418541C852C8944FE2010861DA@qub-xchange-01.ads.qub.ac.uk>
Message-ID: <000301c70db1$62d7c9b0$6401a8c0@nant>


<<<
Her brother is a student at the University you worked at in St Petersburg.
>>>
Hello Martin,

My greetings to your student from St.Petersburg!

My son is also a student of this local University where her brother is
studying - it's a small World... :)

BTW, my son and my daughter are looking for the possible ways to continue in
the future their professional higher education somewhere abroad - what are
the best ways to do that:

- assuming they both speak English rather fluently (my daughter also speaks
French, German(studying) and some Italian(beginner level);

- I do not expect to make big bucks in the near future to pay for their
higher education abroad...

I mean there could be some grants there and somebody here in this discussion
list may know about such grants and if my kids will be able to win such
grants then they can go there...

Thank you.

--
Shamil
 
-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Martin Reid
Sent: Tuesday, November 21, 2006 11:06 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: [AccessD] Hey Shamil

Had a girl from your city on my course today.
 
Svetlana Svyatko
 
Her brother is a student at the University you worked at in St Petersburg.
 
Martin
 
 
Martin WP Reid
Training and Assessment Unit
Riddle Hall
Belfast
 
tel: 02890 974477
 
 



From mwp.reid at qub.ac.uk  Tue Nov 21 15:19:52 2006
From: mwp.reid at qub.ac.uk (Martin Reid)
Date: Tue, 21 Nov 2006 21:19:52 -0000
Subject: [AccessD] OT: RE:  Hey Shamil
References: <000301c70db1$62d7c9b0$6401a8c0@nant>
Message-ID: <D0BF9C78D1C45C418541C852C8944FE2010861DF@qub-xchange-01.ads.qub.ac.uk>

Shamil
 
I can put you in touch with teh people at my University who deal with overseas students if you woudl like.
 
 
Maritn
 
Martin WP Reid
Training and Assessment Unit
Riddle Hall
Belfast
 
tel: 02890 974477
 

________________________________

From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com on behalf of Shamil Salakhetdinov
Sent: Tue 21/11/2006 21:09
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] OT: RE: Hey Shamil




<<<
Her brother is a student at the University you worked at in St Petersburg.
>>>
Hello Martin,

My greetings to your student from St.Petersburg!

My son is also a student of this local University where her brother is
studying - it's a small World... :)

BTW, my son and my daughter are looking for the possible ways to continue in
the future their professional higher education somewhere abroad - what are
the best ways to do that:

- assuming they both speak English rather fluently (my daughter also speaks
French, German(studying) and some Italian(beginner level);

- I do not expect to make big bucks in the near future to pay for their
higher education abroad...

I mean there could be some grants there and somebody here in this discussion
list may know about such grants and if my kids will be able to win such
grants then they can go there...

Thank you.

--
Shamil

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Martin Reid
Sent: Tuesday, November 21, 2006 11:06 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: [AccessD] Hey Shamil

Had a girl from your city on my course today.

Svetlana Svyatko

Her brother is a student at the University you worked at in St Petersburg.

Martin


Martin WP Reid
Training and Assessment Unit
Riddle Hall
Belfast

tel: 02890 974477



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From dgibso at uark.edu  Tue Nov 21 15:55:31 2006
From: dgibso at uark.edu (David A Gibson)
Date: Tue, 21 Nov 2006 15:55:31 -0600
Subject: [AccessD] OT: RE:  Hey Shamil
In-Reply-To: <000301c70db1$62d7c9b0$6401a8c0@nant>
References: <D0BF9C78D1C45C418541C852C8944FE2010861DA@qub-xchange-01.ads.qub.ac.uk>
	<000301c70db1$62d7c9b0$6401a8c0@nant>
Message-ID: <7.0.1.0.0.20061121155146.01ef29a0@uark.edu>

Shamil,

I work for the University of Arkansas in Fayetteville, Arkansas.  I 
used to work with both Domestic and International Admissions but 
International has since moved toto the Graduate Admissions building.

http://www.uark.edu/ua/iao/

This may provide some information for you.

David G.

At 03:09 PM 11/21/2006, you wrote:

><<<
>Her brother is a student at the University you worked at in St Petersburg.
> >>>
>Hello Martin,
>
>My greetings to your student from St.Petersburg!
>
>My son is also a student of this local University where her brother is
>studying - it's a small World... :)
>
>BTW, my son and my daughter are looking for the possible ways to continue in
>the future their professional higher education somewhere abroad - what are
>the best ways to do that:
>
>- assuming they both speak English rather fluently (my daughter also speaks
>French, German(studying) and some Italian(beginner level);
>
>- I do not expect to make big bucks in the near future to pay for their
>higher education abroad...
>
>I mean there could be some grants there and somebody here in this discussion
>list may know about such grants and if my kids will be able to win such
>grants then they can go there...
>
>Thank you.
>
>--
>Shamil
>


From JHewson at karta.com  Tue Nov 21 16:15:17 2006
From: JHewson at karta.com (Jim Hewson)
Date: Tue, 21 Nov 2006 16:15:17 -0600
Subject: [AccessD] OT: RE:  Hey Shamil
Message-ID: <9C382E065F54AE48BC3AA7925DCBB01C04ABB12B@karta-exc-int.Karta.com>

Shamil,
My wife works for St. Mary's University in San Antonio, Texas.
This link might be of interest to you.

http://www.stmarytx.edu/iss/ 


Jim 
jhewson at karta.com
 
-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of David A Gibson
Sent: Tuesday, November 21, 2006 3:56 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] OT: RE: Hey Shamil

Shamil,

I work for the University of Arkansas in Fayetteville, Arkansas.  I 
used to work with both Domestic and International Admissions but 
International has since moved toto the Graduate Admissions building.

http://www.uark.edu/ua/iao/

This may provide some information for you.

David G.

At 03:09 PM 11/21/2006, you wrote:

><<<
>Her brother is a student at the University you worked at in St Petersburg.
> >>>
>Hello Martin,
>
>My greetings to your student from St.Petersburg!
>
>My son is also a student of this local University where her brother is
>studying - it's a small World... :)
>
>BTW, my son and my daughter are looking for the possible ways to continue in
>the future their professional higher education somewhere abroad - what are
>the best ways to do that:
>
>- assuming they both speak English rather fluently (my daughter also speaks
>French, German(studying) and some Italian(beginner level);
>
>- I do not expect to make big bucks in the near future to pay for their
>higher education abroad...
>
>I mean there could be some grants there and somebody here in this discussion
>list may know about such grants and if my kids will be able to win such
>grants then they can go there...
>
>Thank you.
>
>--
>Shamil
>
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From martyconnelly at shaw.ca  Tue Nov 21 17:14:07 2006
From: martyconnelly at shaw.ca (MartyConnelly)
Date: Tue, 21 Nov 2006 15:14:07 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] Create object
In-Reply-To: <001f01c70d54$fb1c0540$657aa8c0@m6805>
References: <001f01c70d54$fb1c0540$657aa8c0@m6805>
Message-ID: <4563883F.6090706@shaw.ca>

Not sure However
Depends if it is loaded as a service or a process

A service generally defaults to single instance
 A service is defined by a registry key under
HKLM\System\CurrentControlSet\Services, one key per service defined.
Obviously there can only be one key called Foo so you can only have one
Foo service defined.

A process is multi-instance default


CuteFTP has a code
HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\Installer\Products\7A8F1B6E2FE2CD747B4DABE7C088D565
Key Name InstanceType regword 0

JWColby wrote:

>And how do you tell this? 
>Mime-Version: 1.0
>Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
>Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
>
>
>John W. Colby
>Colby Consulting
>www.ColbyConsulting.com
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of MartyConnelly
>Sent: Monday, November 20, 2006 9:50 PM
>To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
>Subject: Re: [AccessD] Create object
>
>I think if you look through the registry it will be either multi or single
>instance registration
>
>artful at rogers.com wrote:
>
>  
>
>>Hmm, a clue. I know nothing about this software, but is there a way to open
>>    
>>
>an instance on another computer?
>  
>
>>Arthur
>>
>>----- Original Message ----
>>From: Jim Lawrence <accessd at shaw.ca>
>>To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving 
>><accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
>>Sent: Monday, November 20, 2006 12:26:20 PM
>>Subject: Re: [AccessD] Create object
>>
>>Hi John:
>>
>>The problem would appear to be with 3D-FTP which is designed to only 
>>open as a single instance, per computer....
>>
>>Jim
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> 
>>
>>    
>>
>
>--
>Marty Connelly
>Victoria, B.C.
>Canada
>
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>  
>

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Victoria, B.C.
Canada



From bchacc at san.rr.com  Tue Nov 21 17:32:47 2006
From: bchacc at san.rr.com (Beach Access Software)
Date: Tue, 21 Nov 2006 15:32:47 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] Print report to file
In-Reply-To: <s5635c7e.081@cactus.dk>
Message-ID: <010101c70dc5$5a3acd70$6401a8c0@HAL9005>

D'oh!  Busted...

Rocky


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gustav Brock
Sent: Tuesday, November 21, 2006 11:07 AM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Print report to file

Hi Rocky

You better put this life saver of yours in a safe place this time!
Or we can expect to have you whining here again in a year or so:

http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/htdig/accessd/2005-June/035448.html 

/gustav


> On 20 Nov 2006 at 23:25, Beach Access Software wrote:

> That's it!  That will be a lifesaver.  
> Rocky



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From john at winhaven.net  Tue Nov 21 17:43:47 2006
From: john at winhaven.net (John Bartow)
Date: Tue, 21 Nov 2006 17:43:47 -0600
Subject: [AccessD] Print report to file
In-Reply-To: <4562CD96.28960.8EB9A65D@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>
Message-ID: <200611212343.kALNhkq31259@databaseadvisors.com>

I've downloaded and installed PrintToPicture101.exe. 101 does work in XP
but...

I then downloaded and meant to install ptp102.zip (which is an upgrade to
101, both are by Gretchko.) The upgrade suggests you first remove the
previous version. The unistall for 101 hangs and does nothing. The
installation for 102 does nothing. I'm stuck in no man's land.

Just a word of caution.



From dwaters at usinternet.com  Tue Nov 21 17:48:34 2006
From: dwaters at usinternet.com (Dan Waters)
Date: Tue, 21 Nov 2006 17:48:34 -0600
Subject: [AccessD] OT: RE:  Hey Shamil
In-Reply-To: <33099401.1164143980850.JavaMail.root@sniper58>
Message-ID: <003c01c70dc7$8f48bbb0$0200a8c0@danwaters>

Hi Shamil!

This is the link to the University of Minnesota International Student
Admissions page.  It may be that the climate in Minneapolis is similar to
St. Petersburg.  http://www.isss.umn.edu/ 

In rummaging around the UM site, I found this link:
http://www.educationusa.state.gov/


Also, have you ever thought of contacting Microsoft to see if you could work
for them in some capacity?  It seems to me that with the skill you
definitely have, that they could find a way for you to make them some money
if they would just give you a little bit of theirs!  Really!  


Best of Luck!

Dan Waters


-----Original Message-----
Subject: [AccessD] OT: RE: Hey Shamil


<<<
Her brother is a student at the University you worked at in St Petersburg.
>>>
Hello Martin,

My greetings to your student from St.Petersburg!

My son is also a student of this local University where her brother is
studying - it's a small World... :)

BTW, my son and my daughter are looking for the possible ways to continue in
the future their professional higher education somewhere abroad - what are
the best ways to do that:

- assuming they both speak English rather fluently (my daughter also speaks
French, German(studying) and some Italian(beginner level);

- I do not expect to make big bucks in the near future to pay for their
higher education abroad...

I mean there could be some grants there and somebody here in this discussion
list may know about such grants and if my kids will be able to win such
grants then they can go there...

Thank you.

--
Shamil
 
-----Original Message-----
Subject: [AccessD] Hey Shamil

Had a girl from your city on my course today.
 
Svetlana Svyatko
 
Her brother is a student at the University you worked at in St Petersburg.
 
Martin
 
 
Martin WP Reid
Training and Assessment Unit
Riddle Hall
Belfast
 
tel: 02890 974477



From garykjos at gmail.com  Tue Nov 21 19:16:06 2006
From: garykjos at gmail.com (Gary Kjos)
Date: Tue, 21 Nov 2006 19:16:06 -0600
Subject: [AccessD] Print report to file
In-Reply-To: <200611212343.kALNhkq31259@databaseadvisors.com>
References: <4562CD96.28960.8EB9A65D@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>
	<200611212343.kALNhkq31259@databaseadvisors.com>
Message-ID: <aea6c4950611211716i1ea83840m8c61b1bd2e72784d@mail.gmail.com>

Reinstall 101 maybe?  Maybe that one will work good enough?

On 11/21/06, John Bartow <john at winhaven.net> wrote:
> I've downloaded and installed PrintToPicture101.exe. 101 does work in XP
> but...
>
> I then downloaded and meant to install ptp102.zip (which is an upgrade to
> 101, both are by Gretchko.) The upgrade suggests you first remove the
> previous version. The unistall for 101 hangs and does nothing. The
> installation for 102 does nothing. I'm stuck in no man's land.
>
> Just a word of caution.
>
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From newsgrps at dalyn.co.nz  Tue Nov 21 19:16:54 2006
From: newsgrps at dalyn.co.nz (David Emerson)
Date: Wed, 22 Nov 2006 14:16:54 +1300
Subject: [AccessD] Stored Procedure not producing results
Message-ID: <20061122011633.TNVW20709.fep02.xtra.co.nz@Dalyn.dalyn.co.nz>

SQL 2000

I have the following query running in Query Analyser:

SELECT dbo.tblCustStatement.StatementID, dbo.tblCustomers.TradingName 
as CustName, dbo.tblCustStatement.StatementDate,
         dbo.tblCustomers.AccountNo, dbo.tblCustStatement.StatementNumber
FROM dbo.tblCustomers INNER JOIN dbo.tblCustICP ON 
dbo.tblCustomers.CustomerID = dbo.tblCustICP.CustIDNo
         INNER JOIN dbo.tblCustStatement ON 
dbo.tblCustomers.CustomerID = dbo.tblCustStatement.CustIDNo
         LEFT OUTER JOIN dbo.vwAgedDebtorReceipt ON 
dbo.tblCustStatement.CustIDNo = dbo.vwAgedDebtorReceipt.CustIDNo
         AND dbo.tblCustStatement.StatementNumber = 
dbo.vwAgedDebtorReceipt.StatNum
         LEFT OUTER JOIN dbo.vwAgedDebtorReceiptInv ON 
dbo.tblCustStatement.CustIDNo = dbo.vwAgedDebtorReceiptInv.CustIDNo
         AND dbo.tblCustStatement.StatementNumber = 
dbo.vwAgedDebtorReceiptInv.InvNum
WHERE
         -- Remming out this statement works (and removing the AND at 
the beginning of the next line)
         (dbo.tblCustStatement.StatementDate >= '2006-11-01' And 
dbo.tblCustStatement.StatementDate <= '2006-11-30')
         -- Remming out this statement works
         AND (dbo.tblCustomers.AccStatus= 'Active')
         AND (dbo.tblCustStatement.[CurrentMth]+ 
dbo.tblCustStatement.[OneMonth]+ 
dbo.tblCustStatement.[TwoMonths]+ 
dbo.tblCustStatement.[ThreeMonths] + 
ISNULL(dbo.vwAgedDebtorReceipt.NetReceipts,0) 
+            ISNULL(dbo.vwAgedDebtorReceipt.GJCredit,0)+ 
ISNULL(dbo.vwAgedDebtorReceiptInv.NetReceiptsInv,0) 
+               ISNULL(dbo.vwAgedDebtorReceiptInv.GJCreditInv,0) > 20)
         AND (dbo.tblCustomers.PayArrange = 0)
         AND (dbo.tblCustomers.NoOverdueNote = 0)
         -- Remming out this statement works
         AND (   CASE
                         WHEN 
ISNUMERIC(LEFT(dbo.tblCustomers.CreditStatus,2)) = 0 THEN '00'
                         ELSE LEFT(dbo.tblCustomers.CreditStatus,2)
                 END < CAST(DAY(GETDATE()) AS varchar(2)))
         AND (dbo.tblCustomers.CreditStatus NOT LIKE 'Last%' OR 
dbo.tblCustomers.CreditStatus IS NULL)
         -- Remming out this statement works
         AND (dbo.tblCustStatement.StatementNumber <> 1)
ORDER BY CustName, dbo.tblCustomers.AccountNo, 
dbo.tblCustStatement.StatementDate

When I remark out any 1 of the AND statements noted above in the 
WHERE clause the results come back in a couple of seconds.
However, when I include all AND statement the query runs doesn't 
return any results (at least not within the first ten minutes!)

There doesn't seem to be any pattern to the lines that can be remmed 
or combinations of remaining lines.  The only clue I have is that 
data from the database from two months ago works fine but there are 
750 more records in each table being filtered.

Any suggestions as to how I can solve this - it seems to be a data 
issue but the various combinations of AND statements above doesn't make sense.




From martyconnelly at shaw.ca  Tue Nov 21 19:31:01 2006
From: martyconnelly at shaw.ca (MartyConnelly)
Date: Tue, 21 Nov 2006 17:31:01 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] OT: RE:  Hey Shamil
In-Reply-To: <000301c70db1$62d7c9b0$6401a8c0@nant>
References: <000301c70db1$62d7c9b0$6401a8c0@nant>
Message-ID: <4563A855.8070707@shaw.ca>

Here is one of interest, they usually try to attract foriegn students
with bursaries in their MA program. It attracts job offers from
External Affairs department and International Banking firms.

Norman Paterson School of International Affairs
Carleton University, Ottawa.
http://www.carleton.ca/npsia/index.html

I coughed when I saw the fees.  I had a roommate who went
through this program. She made it through by working part time
as a bank teller. It didn't interfere with her classes.
I also used to go skiing with Norman's granddaughter Ellen
Patterson who was also in the program at that time. The fees to her
were less than her allowance.

Some Candian Universities offer a CO-OP program
A split work term - university term where the student
gets work experience and enough pay to cover tuition.
Something to look for if tuition a problem.
Although a 4 year degree takes 5 years to complete.
Also you come out with two years work experience.
Microsoft grabs a lot of these guys at Waterloo for work terms.

http://www.cecs.uwaterloo.ca/students/prospective/

Waterloo is one of the top Math/Engineering schools in Canada.
Computer Science is part of the Mathematics Faculty.
Located 120 miles west of Toronto.
http://www.uwaterloo.ca/

Shamil Salakhetdinov wrote:

><<<
>Her brother is a student at the University you worked at in St Petersburg.
>  
>
>Hello Martin,
>
>My greetings to your student from St.Petersburg!
>
>My son is also a student of this local University where her brother is
>studying - it's a small World... :)
>
>BTW, my son and my daughter are looking for the possible ways to continue in
>the future their professional higher education somewhere abroad - what are
>the best ways to do that:
>
>- assuming they both speak English rather fluently (my daughter also speaks
>French, German(studying) and some Italian(beginner level);
>
>- I do not expect to make big bucks in the near future to pay for their
>higher education abroad...
>
>I mean there could be some grants there and somebody here in this discussion
>list may know about such grants and if my kids will be able to win such
>grants then they can go there...
>
>Thank you.
>
>--
>Shamil
> 
>-----Original Message-----
>From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Martin Reid
>Sent: Tuesday, November 21, 2006 11:06 PM
>To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
>Subject: [AccessD] Hey Shamil
>
>Had a girl from your city on my course today.
> 
>Svetlana Svyatko
> 
>Her brother is a student at the University you worked at in St Petersburg.
> 
>Martin
> 
> 
>Martin WP Reid
>Training and Assessment Unit
>Riddle Hall
>Belfast
> 
>tel: 02890 974477
> 
> 
>
>  
>

-- 
Marty Connelly
Victoria, B.C.
Canada



From bchacc at san.rr.com  Tue Nov 21 19:34:02 2006
From: bchacc at san.rr.com (Beach Access Software)
Date: Tue, 21 Nov 2006 17:34:02 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] Print report to file
In-Reply-To: <aea6c4950611211716i1ea83840m8c61b1bd2e72784d@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <014a01c70dd6$4ac8bb20$6401a8c0@HAL9005>

You know, I installed 1.02 right over 1.01 without a problem.  But the first
time it aborted because 1.01 was still running.  After I terminated 1.01,
the install of 1.02 went just fine.

Rocky


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gary Kjos
Sent: Tuesday, November 21, 2006 5:16 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Print report to file

Reinstall 101 maybe?  Maybe that one will work good enough?

On 11/21/06, John Bartow <john at winhaven.net> wrote:
> I've downloaded and installed PrintToPicture101.exe. 101 does work in XP
> but...
>
> I then downloaded and meant to install ptp102.zip (which is an upgrade to
> 101, both are by Gretchko.) The upgrade suggests you first remove the
> previous version. The unistall for 101 hangs and does nothing. The
> installation for 102 does nothing. I'm stuck in no man's land.
>
> Just a word of caution.
>
> --
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>


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From martyconnelly at shaw.ca  Tue Nov 21 20:33:11 2006
From: martyconnelly at shaw.ca (MartyConnelly)
Date: Tue, 21 Nov 2006 18:33:11 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] Stored Procedure not producing results
In-Reply-To: <20061122011633.TNVW20709.fep02.xtra.co.nz@Dalyn.dalyn.co.nz>
References: <20061122011633.TNVW20709.fep02.xtra.co.nz@Dalyn.dalyn.co.nz>
Message-ID: <4563B6E7.8050602@shaw.ca>

How about limiting the returned records with
something like Select TOP  10
I forget the exact syntax for SQL 2000
 like the LIMIT statement in MySQL or WHERE ROWNUM >11
in Oracle or new function ROW_NUMBER()  in SQL 2005


David Emerson wrote:

>SQL 2000
>
>I have the following query running in Query Analyser:
>
>SELECT dbo.tblCustStatement.StatementID, dbo.tblCustomers.TradingName 
>as CustName, dbo.tblCustStatement.StatementDate,
>         dbo.tblCustomers.AccountNo, dbo.tblCustStatement.StatementNumber
>FROM dbo.tblCustomers INNER JOIN dbo.tblCustICP ON 
>dbo.tblCustomers.CustomerID = dbo.tblCustICP.CustIDNo
>         INNER JOIN dbo.tblCustStatement ON 
>dbo.tblCustomers.CustomerID = dbo.tblCustStatement.CustIDNo
>         LEFT OUTER JOIN dbo.vwAgedDebtorReceipt ON 
>dbo.tblCustStatement.CustIDNo = dbo.vwAgedDebtorReceipt.CustIDNo
>         AND dbo.tblCustStatement.StatementNumber = 
>dbo.vwAgedDebtorReceipt.StatNum
>         LEFT OUTER JOIN dbo.vwAgedDebtorReceiptInv ON 
>dbo.tblCustStatement.CustIDNo = dbo.vwAgedDebtorReceiptInv.CustIDNo
>         AND dbo.tblCustStatement.StatementNumber = 
>dbo.vwAgedDebtorReceiptInv.InvNum
>WHERE
>         -- Remming out this statement works (and removing the AND at 
>the beginning of the next line)
>         (dbo.tblCustStatement.StatementDate >= '2006-11-01' And 
>dbo.tblCustStatement.StatementDate <= '2006-11-30')
>         -- Remming out this statement works
>         AND (dbo.tblCustomers.AccStatus= 'Active')
>         AND (dbo.tblCustStatement.[CurrentMth]+ 
>dbo.tblCustStatement.[OneMonth]+ 
>dbo.tblCustStatement.[TwoMonths]+ 
>dbo.tblCustStatement.[ThreeMonths] + 
>ISNULL(dbo.vwAgedDebtorReceipt.NetReceipts,0) 
>+            ISNULL(dbo.vwAgedDebtorReceipt.GJCredit,0)+ 
>ISNULL(dbo.vwAgedDebtorReceiptInv.NetReceiptsInv,0) 
>+               ISNULL(dbo.vwAgedDebtorReceiptInv.GJCreditInv,0) > 20)
>         AND (dbo.tblCustomers.PayArrange = 0)
>         AND (dbo.tblCustomers.NoOverdueNote = 0)
>         -- Remming out this statement works
>         AND (   CASE
>                         WHEN 
>ISNUMERIC(LEFT(dbo.tblCustomers.CreditStatus,2)) = 0 THEN '00'
>                         ELSE LEFT(dbo.tblCustomers.CreditStatus,2)
>                 END < CAST(DAY(GETDATE()) AS varchar(2)))
>         AND (dbo.tblCustomers.CreditStatus NOT LIKE 'Last%' OR 
>dbo.tblCustomers.CreditStatus IS NULL)
>         -- Remming out this statement works
>         AND (dbo.tblCustStatement.StatementNumber <> 1)
>ORDER BY CustName, dbo.tblCustomers.AccountNo, 
>dbo.tblCustStatement.StatementDate
>
>When I remark out any 1 of the AND statements noted above in the 
>WHERE clause the results come back in a couple of seconds.
>However, when I include all AND statement the query runs doesn't 
>return any results (at least not within the first ten minutes!)
>
>There doesn't seem to be any pattern to the lines that can be remmed 
>or combinations of remaining lines.  The only clue I have is that 
>data from the database from two months ago works fine but there are 
>750 more records in each table being filtered.
>
>Any suggestions as to how I can solve this - it seems to be a data 
>issue but the various combinations of AND statements above doesn't make sense.
>
>
>  
>

-- 
Marty Connelly
Victoria, B.C.
Canada



From artful at rogers.com  Tue Nov 21 20:43:18 2006
From: artful at rogers.com (artful at rogers.com)
Date: Tue, 21 Nov 2006 18:43:18 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [AccessD] Stored Procedure not producing results
Message-ID: <20061122024318.35961.qmail@web88206.mail.re2.yahoo.com>

You are forcing table scans everywhere. You must rethink this. Divide the problems into atomic queries and then build up to molecular queries. The ANDs are killing you. Do the OUTER JOINs first, each as an atom, then combine those, then do your query. I suggest that performance will escalate dramatically.

hth,
Arthur

David Emerson wrote:

>SQL 2000
>
>I have the following query running in Query Analyser:
>
>SELECT dbo.tblCustStatement.StatementID, dbo.tblCustomers.TradingName 
>as CustName, dbo.tblCustStatement.StatementDate,
>         dbo.tblCustomers.AccountNo, dbo.tblCustStatement.StatementNumber
>FROM dbo.tblCustomers INNER JOIN dbo.tblCustICP ON 
>dbo.tblCustomers.CustomerID = dbo.tblCustICP.CustIDNo
>         INNER JOIN dbo.tblCustStatement ON 
>dbo.tblCustomers.CustomerID = dbo.tblCustStatement.CustIDNo
>         LEFT OUTER JOIN dbo.vwAgedDebtorReceipt ON 
>dbo.tblCustStatement.CustIDNo = dbo.vwAgedDebtorReceipt.CustIDNo
>         AND dbo.tblCustStatement.StatementNumber = 
>dbo.vwAgedDebtorReceipt.StatNum
>         LEFT OUTER JOIN dbo.vwAgedDebtorReceiptInv ON 
>dbo.tblCustStatement.CustIDNo = dbo.vwAgedDebtorReceiptInv.CustIDNo
>         AND dbo.tblCustStatement.StatementNumber = 
>dbo.vwAgedDebtorReceiptInv.InvNum
>WHERE
>         -- Remming out this statement works (and removing the AND at 
>the beginning of the next line)
>         (dbo.tblCustStatement.StatementDate >= '2006-11-01' And 
>dbo.tblCustStatement.StatementDate <= '2006-11-30')
>         -- Remming out this statement works
>         AND (dbo.tblCustomers.AccStatus= 'Active')
>         AND (dbo.tblCustStatement.[CurrentMth]+ 
>dbo.tblCustStatement.[OneMonth]+ 
>dbo.tblCustStatement.[TwoMonths]+ 
>dbo.tblCustStatement.[ThreeMonths] + 
>ISNULL(dbo.vwAgedDebtorReceipt.NetReceipts,0) 
>+            ISNULL(dbo.vwAgedDebtorReceipt.GJCredit,0)+ 
>ISNULL(dbo.vwAgedDebtorReceiptInv.NetReceiptsInv,0) 
>+               ISNULL(dbo.vwAgedDebtorReceiptInv.GJCreditInv,0) > 20)
>         AND (dbo.tblCustomers.PayArrange = 0)
>         AND (dbo.tblCustomers.NoOverdueNote = 0)
>         -- Remming out this statement works
>         AND (   CASE
>                         WHEN 
>ISNUMERIC(LEFT(dbo.tblCustomers.CreditStatus,2)) = 0 THEN '00'
>                         ELSE LEFT(dbo.tblCustomers.CreditStatus,2)
>                 END < CAST(DAY(GETDATE()) AS varchar(2)))
>         AND (dbo.tblCustomers.CreditStatus NOT LIKE 'Last%' OR 
>dbo.tblCustomers.CreditStatus IS NULL)
>         -- Remming out this statement works
>         AND (dbo.tblCustStatement.StatementNumber <> 1)
>ORDER BY CustName, dbo.tblCustomers.AccountNo, 
>dbo.tblCustStatement.StatementDate
>
>When I remark out any 1 of the AND statements noted above in the 
>WHERE clause the results come back in a couple of seconds.
>However, when I include all AND statement the query runs doesn't 
>return any results (at least not within the first ten minutes!)
>
>There doesn't seem to be any pattern to the lines that can be remmed 
>or combinations of remaining lines.  The only clue I have is that 
>data from the database from two months ago works fine but there are 
>750 more records in each table being filtered.
>
>Any suggestions as to how I can solve this - it seems to be a data 
>issue but the various combinations of AND statements above doesn't make sense.
>
>
>  
>

-- 
Marty Connelly
Victoria, B.C.
Canada

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From newsgrps at dalyn.co.nz  Tue Nov 21 21:18:31 2006
From: newsgrps at dalyn.co.nz (David Emerson)
Date: Wed, 22 Nov 2006 16:18:31 +1300
Subject: [AccessD] Stored Procedure not producing results
In-Reply-To: <20061122024318.35961.qmail@web88206.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
References: <20061122024318.35961.qmail@web88206.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <20061122031958.TUHI27418.fep05.xtra.co.nz@Dalyn.dalyn.co.nz>

Thanks Arthur,

I am not quite sure what you mean.  Are you suggesting that I create 
queries within the query to do the filtering? For example, instead of 
filtering the dbo.tblCustomers table in the WHERE statement, I should 
use a query in the FROM statement based on the dbo.tblCustomers table 
and filter there?

David

At 22/11/2006, you wrote:
>You are forcing table scans everywhere. You must rethink this. 
>Divide the problems into atomic queries and then build up to 
>molecular queries. The ANDs are killing you. Do the OUTER JOINs 
>first, each as an atom, then combine those, then do your query. I 
>suggest that performance will escalate dramatically.
>
>hth,
>Arthur
>
>David Emerson wrote:
>
> >SQL 2000
> >
> >I have the following query running in Query Analyser:
> >
> >SELECT dbo.tblCustStatement.StatementID, dbo.tblCustomers.TradingName
> >as CustName, dbo.tblCustStatement.StatementDate,
> >         dbo.tblCustomers.AccountNo, dbo.tblCustStatement.StatementNumber
> >FROM dbo.tblCustomers INNER JOIN dbo.tblCustICP ON
> >dbo.tblCustomers.CustomerID = dbo.tblCustICP.CustIDNo
> >         INNER JOIN dbo.tblCustStatement ON
> >dbo.tblCustomers.CustomerID = dbo.tblCustStatement.CustIDNo
> >         LEFT OUTER JOIN dbo.vwAgedDebtorReceipt ON
> >dbo.tblCustStatement.CustIDNo = dbo.vwAgedDebtorReceipt.CustIDNo
> >         AND dbo.tblCustStatement.StatementNumber =
> >dbo.vwAgedDebtorReceipt.StatNum
> >         LEFT OUTER JOIN dbo.vwAgedDebtorReceiptInv ON
> >dbo.tblCustStatement.CustIDNo = dbo.vwAgedDebtorReceiptInv.CustIDNo
> >         AND dbo.tblCustStatement.StatementNumber =
> >dbo.vwAgedDebtorReceiptInv.InvNum
> >WHERE
> >         -- Remming out this statement works (and removing the AND at
> >the beginning of the next line)
> >         (dbo.tblCustStatement.StatementDate >= '2006-11-01' And
> >dbo.tblCustStatement.StatementDate <= '2006-11-30')
> >         -- Remming out this statement works
> >         AND (dbo.tblCustomers.AccStatus= 'Active')
> >         AND (dbo.tblCustStatement.[CurrentMth]+
> >dbo.tblCustStatement.[OneMonth]+
> >dbo.tblCustStatement.[TwoMonths]+
> >dbo.tblCustStatement.[ThreeMonths] +
> >ISNULL(dbo.vwAgedDebtorReceipt.NetReceipts,0)
> >+            ISNULL(dbo.vwAgedDebtorReceipt.GJCredit,0)+
> >ISNULL(dbo.vwAgedDebtorReceiptInv.NetReceiptsInv,0)
> >+               ISNULL(dbo.vwAgedDebtorReceiptInv.GJCreditInv,0) > 20)
> >         AND (dbo.tblCustomers.PayArrange = 0)
> >         AND (dbo.tblCustomers.NoOverdueNote = 0)
> >         -- Remming out this statement works
> >         AND (   CASE
> >                         WHEN
> >ISNUMERIC(LEFT(dbo.tblCustomers.CreditStatus,2)) = 0 THEN '00'
> >                         ELSE LEFT(dbo.tblCustomers.CreditStatus,2)
> >                 END < CAST(DAY(GETDATE()) AS varchar(2)))
> >         AND (dbo.tblCustomers.CreditStatus NOT LIKE 'Last%' OR
> >dbo.tblCustomers.CreditStatus IS NULL)
> >         -- Remming out this statement works
> >         AND (dbo.tblCustStatement.StatementNumber <> 1)
> >ORDER BY CustName, dbo.tblCustomers.AccountNo,
> >dbo.tblCustStatement.StatementDate
> >
> >When I remark out any 1 of the AND statements noted above in the
> >WHERE clause the results come back in a couple of seconds.
> >However, when I include all AND statement the query runs doesn't
> >return any results (at least not within the first ten minutes!)
> >
> >There doesn't seem to be any pattern to the lines that can be remmed
> >or combinations of remaining lines.  The only clue I have is that
> >data from the database from two months ago works fine but there are
> >750 more records in each table being filtered.
> >
> >Any suggestions as to how I can solve this - it seems to be a data
> >issue but the various combinations of AND statements above doesn't 
> make sense.
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>--
>Marty Connelly
>Victoria, B.C.
>Canada
>
>--
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>
>
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From newsgrps at dalyn.co.nz  Tue Nov 21 21:24:50 2006
From: newsgrps at dalyn.co.nz (David Emerson)
Date: Wed, 22 Nov 2006 16:24:50 +1300
Subject: [AccessD] Stored Procedure not producing results
In-Reply-To: <4563B6E7.8050602@shaw.ca>
References: <20061122011633.TNVW20709.fep02.xtra.co.nz@Dalyn.dalyn.co.nz>
	<4563B6E7.8050602@shaw.ca>
Message-ID: <20061122032423.TEMG29801.fep06.xtra.co.nz@Dalyn.dalyn.co.nz>

Thanks for the suggestion, however since we want all the records that 
match the filters I can't see how using TOP will help (unless it is TOP 100)?

David

At 22/11/2006, you wrote:
>How about limiting the returned records with
>something like Select TOP  10
>I forget the exact syntax for SQL 2000
>  like the LIMIT statement in MySQL or WHERE ROWNUM >11
>in Oracle or new function ROW_NUMBER()  in SQL 2005
>
>
>David Emerson wrote:
>
> >SQL 2000
> >
> >I have the following query running in Query Analyser:
> >
> >SELECT dbo.tblCustStatement.StatementID, dbo.tblCustomers.TradingName
> >as CustName, dbo.tblCustStatement.StatementDate,
> >         dbo.tblCustomers.AccountNo, dbo.tblCustStatement.StatementNumber
> >FROM dbo.tblCustomers INNER JOIN dbo.tblCustICP ON
> >dbo.tblCustomers.CustomerID = dbo.tblCustICP.CustIDNo
> >         INNER JOIN dbo.tblCustStatement ON
> >dbo.tblCustomers.CustomerID = dbo.tblCustStatement.CustIDNo
> >         LEFT OUTER JOIN dbo.vwAgedDebtorReceipt ON
> >dbo.tblCustStatement.CustIDNo = dbo.vwAgedDebtorReceipt.CustIDNo
> >         AND dbo.tblCustStatement.StatementNumber =
> >dbo.vwAgedDebtorReceipt.StatNum
> >         LEFT OUTER JOIN dbo.vwAgedDebtorReceiptInv ON
> >dbo.tblCustStatement.CustIDNo = dbo.vwAgedDebtorReceiptInv.CustIDNo
> >         AND dbo.tblCustStatement.StatementNumber =
> >dbo.vwAgedDebtorReceiptInv.InvNum
> >WHERE
> >         -- Remming out this statement works (and removing the AND at
> >the beginning of the next line)
> >         (dbo.tblCustStatement.StatementDate >= '2006-11-01' And
> >dbo.tblCustStatement.StatementDate <= '2006-11-30')
> >         -- Remming out this statement works
> >         AND (dbo.tblCustomers.AccStatus= 'Active')
> >         AND (dbo.tblCustStatement.[CurrentMth]+
> >dbo.tblCustStatement.[OneMonth]+
> >dbo.tblCustStatement.[TwoMonths]+
> >dbo.tblCustStatement.[ThreeMonths] +
> >ISNULL(dbo.vwAgedDebtorReceipt.NetReceipts,0)
> >+            ISNULL(dbo.vwAgedDebtorReceipt.GJCredit,0)+
> >ISNULL(dbo.vwAgedDebtorReceiptInv.NetReceiptsInv,0)
> >+               ISNULL(dbo.vwAgedDebtorReceiptInv.GJCreditInv,0) > 20)
> >         AND (dbo.tblCustomers.PayArrange = 0)
> >         AND (dbo.tblCustomers.NoOverdueNote = 0)
> >         -- Remming out this statement works
> >         AND (   CASE
> >                         WHEN
> >ISNUMERIC(LEFT(dbo.tblCustomers.CreditStatus,2)) = 0 THEN '00'
> >                         ELSE LEFT(dbo.tblCustomers.CreditStatus,2)
> >                 END < CAST(DAY(GETDATE()) AS varchar(2)))
> >         AND (dbo.tblCustomers.CreditStatus NOT LIKE 'Last%' OR
> >dbo.tblCustomers.CreditStatus IS NULL)
> >         -- Remming out this statement works
> >         AND (dbo.tblCustStatement.StatementNumber <> 1)
> >ORDER BY CustName, dbo.tblCustomers.AccountNo,
> >dbo.tblCustStatement.StatementDate
> >
> >When I remark out any 1 of the AND statements noted above in the
> >WHERE clause the results come back in a couple of seconds.
> >However, when I include all AND statement the query runs doesn't
> >return any results (at least not within the first ten minutes!)
> >
> >There doesn't seem to be any pattern to the lines that can be remmed
> >or combinations of remaining lines.  The only clue I have is that
> >data from the database from two months ago works fine but there are
> >750 more records in each table being filtered.
> >
> >Any suggestions as to how I can solve this - it seems to be a data
> >issue but the various combinations of AND statements above doesn't 
> make sense.
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>--
>Marty Connelly
>Victoria, B.C.
>Canada
>
>--
>AccessD mailing list
>AccessD at databaseadvisors.com
>http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd
>Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com



From newsgrps at dalyn.co.nz  Tue Nov 21 21:28:26 2006
From: newsgrps at dalyn.co.nz (David Emerson)
Date: Wed, 22 Nov 2006 16:28:26 +1300
Subject: [AccessD] Stored Procedure not producing results
In-Reply-To: <20061122024318.35961.qmail@web88206.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
References: <20061122024318.35961.qmail@web88206.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <20061122032815.UFBO27418.fep05.xtra.co.nz@Dalyn.dalyn.co.nz>

Another thing - I have another database which is basically the same 
structure with over 4 times the number of records in all tables, and 
that works with the same query no problem.

David

At 22/11/2006, you wrote:
>You are forcing table scans everywhere. You must rethink this. 
>Divide the problems into atomic queries and then build up to 
>molecular queries. The ANDs are killing you. Do the OUTER JOINs 
>first, each as an atom, then combine those, then do your query. I 
>suggest that performance will escalate dramatically.
>
>hth,
>Arthur
>
>David Emerson wrote:
>
> >SQL 2000
> >
> >I have the following query running in Query Analyser:
> >
> >SELECT dbo.tblCustStatement.StatementID, dbo.tblCustomers.TradingName
> >as CustName, dbo.tblCustStatement.StatementDate,
> >         dbo.tblCustomers.AccountNo, dbo.tblCustStatement.StatementNumber
> >FROM dbo.tblCustomers INNER JOIN dbo.tblCustICP ON
> >dbo.tblCustomers.CustomerID = dbo.tblCustICP.CustIDNo
> >         INNER JOIN dbo.tblCustStatement ON
> >dbo.tblCustomers.CustomerID = dbo.tblCustStatement.CustIDNo
> >         LEFT OUTER JOIN dbo.vwAgedDebtorReceipt ON
> >dbo.tblCustStatement.CustIDNo = dbo.vwAgedDebtorReceipt.CustIDNo
> >         AND dbo.tblCustStatement.StatementNumber =
> >dbo.vwAgedDebtorReceipt.StatNum
> >         LEFT OUTER JOIN dbo.vwAgedDebtorReceiptInv ON
> >dbo.tblCustStatement.CustIDNo = dbo.vwAgedDebtorReceiptInv.CustIDNo
> >         AND dbo.tblCustStatement.StatementNumber =
> >dbo.vwAgedDebtorReceiptInv.InvNum
> >WHERE
> >         -- Remming out this statement works (and removing the AND at
> >the beginning of the next line)
> >         (dbo.tblCustStatement.StatementDate >= '2006-11-01' And
> >dbo.tblCustStatement.StatementDate <= '2006-11-30')
> >         -- Remming out this statement works
> >         AND (dbo.tblCustomers.AccStatus= 'Active')
> >         AND (dbo.tblCustStatement.[CurrentMth]+
> >dbo.tblCustStatement.[OneMonth]+
> >dbo.tblCustStatement.[TwoMonths]+
> >dbo.tblCustStatement.[ThreeMonths] +
> >ISNULL(dbo.vwAgedDebtorReceipt.NetReceipts,0)
> >+            ISNULL(dbo.vwAgedDebtorReceipt.GJCredit,0)+
> >ISNULL(dbo.vwAgedDebtorReceiptInv.NetReceiptsInv,0)
> >+               ISNULL(dbo.vwAgedDebtorReceiptInv.GJCreditInv,0) > 20)
> >         AND (dbo.tblCustomers.PayArrange = 0)
> >         AND (dbo.tblCustomers.NoOverdueNote = 0)
> >         -- Remming out this statement works
> >         AND (   CASE
> >                         WHEN
> >ISNUMERIC(LEFT(dbo.tblCustomers.CreditStatus,2)) = 0 THEN '00'
> >                         ELSE LEFT(dbo.tblCustomers.CreditStatus,2)
> >                 END < CAST(DAY(GETDATE()) AS varchar(2)))
> >         AND (dbo.tblCustomers.CreditStatus NOT LIKE 'Last%' OR
> >dbo.tblCustomers.CreditStatus IS NULL)
> >         -- Remming out this statement works
> >         AND (dbo.tblCustStatement.StatementNumber <> 1)
> >ORDER BY CustName, dbo.tblCustomers.AccountNo,
> >dbo.tblCustStatement.StatementDate
> >
> >When I remark out any 1 of the AND statements noted above in the
> >WHERE clause the results come back in a couple of seconds.
> >However, when I include all AND statement the query runs doesn't
> >return any results (at least not within the first ten minutes!)
> >
> >There doesn't seem to be any pattern to the lines that can be remmed
> >or combinations of remaining lines.  The only clue I have is that
> >data from the database from two months ago works fine but there are
> >750 more records in each table being filtered.
> >
> >Any suggestions as to how I can solve this - it seems to be a data
> >issue but the various combinations of AND statements above doesn't 
> make sense.
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>--
>Marty Connelly
>Victoria, B.C.
>Canada
>
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>
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From artful at rogers.com  Tue Nov 21 21:33:28 2006
From: artful at rogers.com (artful at rogers.com)
Date: Tue, 21 Nov 2006 19:33:28 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [AccessD] Stored Procedure not producing results
Message-ID: <20061122033328.33489.qmail@web88205.mail.re2.yahoo.com>

Precisely. I call this "Atomic and Molecular Queries." Atomic queries address precisely one table (or view), and molecular queries assemble at least two atomic queries. This gives you a) optimization and b) re-usability.

Arthur

----- Original Message ----
From: David Emerson <newsgrps at dalyn.co.nz>
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Tuesday, November 21, 2006 10:18:31 PM
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Stored Procedure not producing results

Thanks Arthur,

I am not quite sure what you mean.  Are you suggesting that I create 
queries within the query to do the filtering? For example, instead of 
filtering the dbo.tblCustomers table in the WHERE statement, I should 
use a query in the FROM statement based on the dbo.tblCustomers table 
and filter there?

David

At 22/11/2006, you wrote:
>You are forcing table scans everywhere. You must rethink this. 
>Divide the problems into atomic queries and then build up to 
>molecular queries. The ANDs are killing you. Do the OUTER JOINs 
>first, each as an atom, then combine those, then do your query. I 
>suggest that performance will escalate dramatically.
>
>hth,
>Arthur
>
>David Emerson wrote:
>
> >SQL 2000
> >
> >I have the following query running in Query Analyser:
> >
> >SELECT dbo.tblCustStatement.StatementID, dbo.tblCustomers.TradingName
> >as CustName, dbo.tblCustStatement.StatementDate,
> >         dbo.tblCustomers.AccountNo, dbo.tblCustStatement.StatementNumber
> >FROM dbo.tblCustomers INNER JOIN dbo.tblCustICP ON
> >dbo.tblCustomers.CustomerID = dbo.tblCustICP.CustIDNo
> >         INNER JOIN dbo.tblCustStatement ON
> >dbo.tblCustomers.CustomerID = dbo.tblCustStatement.CustIDNo
> >         LEFT OUTER JOIN dbo.vwAgedDebtorReceipt ON
> >dbo.tblCustStatement.CustIDNo = dbo.vwAgedDebtorReceipt.CustIDNo
> >         AND dbo.tblCustStatement.StatementNumber =
> >dbo.vwAgedDebtorReceipt.StatNum
> >         LEFT OUTER JOIN dbo.vwAgedDebtorReceiptInv ON
> >dbo.tblCustStatement.CustIDNo = dbo.vwAgedDebtorReceiptInv.CustIDNo
> >         AND dbo.tblCustStatement.StatementNumber =
> >dbo.vwAgedDebtorReceiptInv.InvNum
> >WHERE
> >         -- Remming out this statement works (and removing the AND at
> >the beginning of the next line)
> >         (dbo.tblCustStatement.StatementDate >= '2006-11-01' And
> >dbo.tblCustStatement.StatementDate <= '2006-11-30')
> >         -- Remming out this statement works
> >         AND (dbo.tblCustomers.AccStatus= 'Active')
> >         AND (dbo.tblCustStatement.[CurrentMth]+
> >dbo.tblCustStatement.[OneMonth]+
> >dbo.tblCustStatement.[TwoMonths]+
> >dbo.tblCustStatement.[ThreeMonths] +
> >ISNULL(dbo.vwAgedDebtorReceipt.NetReceipts,0)
> >+            ISNULL(dbo.vwAgedDebtorReceipt.GJCredit,0)+
> >ISNULL(dbo.vwAgedDebtorReceiptInv.NetReceiptsInv,0)
> >+               ISNULL(dbo.vwAgedDebtorReceiptInv.GJCreditInv,0) > 20)
> >         AND (dbo.tblCustomers.PayArrange = 0)
> >         AND (dbo.tblCustomers.NoOverdueNote = 0)
> >         -- Remming out this statement works
> >         AND (   CASE
> >                         WHEN
> >ISNUMERIC(LEFT(dbo.tblCustomers.CreditStatus,2)) = 0 THEN '00'
> >                         ELSE LEFT(dbo.tblCustomers.CreditStatus,2)
> >                 END < CAST(DAY(GETDATE()) AS varchar(2)))
> >         AND (dbo.tblCustomers.CreditStatus NOT LIKE 'Last%' OR
> >dbo.tblCustomers.CreditStatus IS NULL)
> >         -- Remming out this statement works
> >         AND (dbo.tblCustStatement.StatementNumber <> 1)
> >ORDER BY CustName, dbo.tblCustomers.AccountNo,
> >dbo.tblCustStatement.StatementDate
> >
> >When I remark out any 1 of the AND statements noted above in the
> >WHERE clause the results come back in a couple of seconds.
> >However, when I include all AND statement the query runs doesn't
> >return any results (at least not within the first ten minutes!)
> >
> >There doesn't seem to be any pattern to the lines that can be remmed
> >or combinations of remaining lines.  The only clue I have is that
> >data from the database from two months ago works fine but there are
> >750 more records in each table being filtered.
> >
> >Any suggestions as to how I can solve this - it seems to be a data
> >issue but the various combinations of AND statements above doesn't 
> make sense.
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
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>Canada
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From artful at rogers.com  Tue Nov 21 21:34:30 2006
From: artful at rogers.com (artful at rogers.com)
Date: Tue, 21 Nov 2006 19:34:30 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [AccessD] Stored Procedure not producing results
Message-ID: <20061122033430.98449.qmail@web88209.mail.re2.yahoo.com>

Then compare the table definitions and the index definitions. Something is radically amiss if it works here and not there.

Arthur

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From: David Emerson <newsgrps at dalyn.co.nz>
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Tuesday, November 21, 2006 10:28:26 PM
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Stored Procedure not producing results

Another thing - I have another database which is basically the same 
structure with over 4 times the number of records in all tables, and 
that works with the same query no problem.

David






From newsgrps at dalyn.co.nz  Tue Nov 21 21:53:58 2006
From: newsgrps at dalyn.co.nz (David Emerson)
Date: Wed, 22 Nov 2006 16:53:58 +1300
Subject: [AccessD] Stored Procedure not producing results
In-Reply-To: <20061122033430.98449.qmail@web88209.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
References: <20061122033430.98449.qmail@web88209.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <20061122035352.VPNA27418.fep05.xtra.co.nz@Dalyn.dalyn.co.nz>

Worse - my database from two months ago works fine, but the latest 
version is the one that is causing the problem.  This may indicate a 
data problem perhaps?

David

At 22/11/2006, artful at rogers.com wrote:
>Then compare the table definitions and the index definitions. 
>Something is radically amiss if it works here and not there.
>
>Arthur
>
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>To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving 
><accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
>Sent: Tuesday, November 21, 2006 10:28:26 PM
>Subject: Re: [AccessD] Stored Procedure not producing results
>
>Another thing - I have another database which is basically the same
>structure with over 4 times the number of records in all tables, and
>that works with the same query no problem.
>
>David
>
>
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From artful at rogers.com  Wed Nov 22 05:08:27 2006
From: artful at rogers.com (artful at rogers.com)
Date: Wed, 22 Nov 2006 03:08:27 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [AccessD] Stored Procedure not producing results
Message-ID: <20061122110827.11706.qmail@web88207.mail.re2.yahoo.com>

If the structures haven't changed, then the data is the villain. But you have a concrete clue to work from. Devise some scope that will include only the data from two months ago and verify your assertion. Then expand the scope to "two months ago plus a day" and run it again. Repeat until failure.

This assumes of course that the scope is expandable so easily. (A good reason to have a "DateEntered" column in every table, which defaults to GetDate()). 

----- Original Message ----
From: David Emerson <newsgrps at dalyn.co.nz>
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>; Access Developers discussion and problem solving <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Tuesday, November 21, 2006 10:53:58 PM
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Stored Procedure not producing results

Worse - my database from two months ago works fine, but the latest 
version is the one that is causing the problem.  This may indicate a 
data problem perhaps?

David






From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com  Wed Nov 22 05:16:35 2006
From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (JWColby)
Date: Wed, 22 Nov 2006 06:16:35 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Stored Procedure not producing results
In-Reply-To: <20061122110827.11706.qmail@web88207.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <001a01c70e27$ae2f3030$647aa8c0@m6805>

>This assumes of course that the scope is expandable so easily. (A good
reason to have a "DateEntered" column in every table, which defaults to
GetDate()). 

Amen!  I do that regularly now.  It juts makes managing data so much easier
when you can see when it was entered.  I actually use the date + time so
that I can see things like how long an append query takes to run (time of
last entry in the "batch minus time of first entry in the "batch").


John W. Colby
Colby Consulting
www.ColbyConsulting.com

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of artful at rogers.com
Sent: Wednesday, November 22, 2006 6:08 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Stored Procedure not producing results

If the structures haven't changed, then the data is the villain. But you
have a concrete clue to work from. Devise some scope that will include only
the data from two months ago and verify your assertion. Then expand the
scope to "two months ago plus a day" and run it again. Repeat until failure.

This assumes of course that the scope is expandable so easily. (A good
reason to have a "DateEntered" column in every table, which defaults to
GetDate()). 

----- Original Message ----
From: David Emerson <newsgrps at dalyn.co.nz>
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>; Access Developers discussion and problem
solving <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Tuesday, November 21, 2006 10:53:58 PM
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Stored Procedure not producing results

Worse - my database from two months ago works fine, but the latest version
is the one that is causing the problem.  This may indicate a data problem
perhaps?

David




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From Gustav at cactus.dk  Wed Nov 22 05:53:06 2006
From: Gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Wed, 22 Nov 2006 12:53:06 +0100
Subject: [AccessD] Print report to file
Message-ID: <s5644858.084@cactus.dk>

Hi Rocky and John

Yes, that's what may be required. Gretchko's own advice is a reboot:

5. Setup the new version of the program it is desirable after removal old version. Before installation it is desirable to reboot a computer.

/gustav


>>> bchacc at san.rr.com 22-11-2006 02:34:02 >>>
You know, I installed 1.02 right over 1.01 without a problem.  But the first
time it aborted because 1.01 was still running.  After I terminated 1.01,
the install of 1.02 went just fine.

Rocky


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com 
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gary Kjos
Sent: Tuesday, November 21, 2006 5:16 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Print report to file

Reinstall 101 maybe?  Maybe that one will work good enough?

On 11/21/06, John Bartow <john at winhaven.net> wrote:
> I've downloaded and installed PrintToPicture101.exe. 101 does work in XP
> but...
>
> I then downloaded and meant to install ptp102.zip (which is an upgrade to
> 101, both are by Gretchko.) The upgrade suggests you first remove the
> previous version. The unistall for 101 hangs and does nothing. The
> installation for 102 does nothing. I'm stuck in no man's land.
>
> Just a word of caution.



From accessd at shaw.ca  Wed Nov 22 05:57:28 2006
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Wed, 22 Nov 2006 03:57:28 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] Stored Procedure not producing results
In-Reply-To: <20061122011633.TNVW20709.fep02.xtra.co.nz@Dalyn.dalyn.co.nz>
Message-ID: <0J9400G9ARTCVFL2@l-daemon>

Hi David:

Just a further comment after conferring with a friend; it was noted that
each one of the statements, that were plused together require a complete
scan of their respective tables before they can be added.

The overhead must be immense. Try using the Rollup or Cube statements, which
are highly optimized and should give you a decent speed increase
(http://databases.about.com/od/sql/l/aacuberollup.htm)

It was also suggested that, if you have control over the database tables
designing and this report is needed on a regular bases, a single table
consolidating the flag fields would improve performance.

HTH
Jim       

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of David Emerson
Sent: Tuesday, November 21, 2006 5:17 PM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [AccessD] Stored Procedure not producing results

SQL 2000

I have the following query running in Query Analyser:

SELECT dbo.tblCustStatement.StatementID, dbo.tblCustomers.TradingName 
as CustName, dbo.tblCustStatement.StatementDate,
         dbo.tblCustomers.AccountNo, dbo.tblCustStatement.StatementNumber
FROM dbo.tblCustomers INNER JOIN dbo.tblCustICP ON 
dbo.tblCustomers.CustomerID = dbo.tblCustICP.CustIDNo
         INNER JOIN dbo.tblCustStatement ON 
dbo.tblCustomers.CustomerID = dbo.tblCustStatement.CustIDNo
         LEFT OUTER JOIN dbo.vwAgedDebtorReceipt ON 
dbo.tblCustStatement.CustIDNo = dbo.vwAgedDebtorReceipt.CustIDNo
         AND dbo.tblCustStatement.StatementNumber = 
dbo.vwAgedDebtorReceipt.StatNum
         LEFT OUTER JOIN dbo.vwAgedDebtorReceiptInv ON 
dbo.tblCustStatement.CustIDNo = dbo.vwAgedDebtorReceiptInv.CustIDNo
         AND dbo.tblCustStatement.StatementNumber = 
dbo.vwAgedDebtorReceiptInv.InvNum
WHERE
         -- Remming out this statement works (and removing the AND at 
the beginning of the next line)
         (dbo.tblCustStatement.StatementDate >= '2006-11-01' And 
dbo.tblCustStatement.StatementDate <= '2006-11-30')
         -- Remming out this statement works
         AND (dbo.tblCustomers.AccStatus= 'Active')
         AND (dbo.tblCustStatement.[CurrentMth]+ 
dbo.tblCustStatement.[OneMonth]+ 
dbo.tblCustStatement.[TwoMonths]+ 
dbo.tblCustStatement.[ThreeMonths] + 
ISNULL(dbo.vwAgedDebtorReceipt.NetReceipts,0) 
+            ISNULL(dbo.vwAgedDebtorReceipt.GJCredit,0)+ 
ISNULL(dbo.vwAgedDebtorReceiptInv.NetReceiptsInv,0) 
+               ISNULL(dbo.vwAgedDebtorReceiptInv.GJCreditInv,0) > 20)
         AND (dbo.tblCustomers.PayArrange = 0)
         AND (dbo.tblCustomers.NoOverdueNote = 0)
         -- Remming out this statement works
         AND (   CASE
                         WHEN 
ISNUMERIC(LEFT(dbo.tblCustomers.CreditStatus,2)) = 0 THEN '00'
                         ELSE LEFT(dbo.tblCustomers.CreditStatus,2)
                 END < CAST(DAY(GETDATE()) AS varchar(2)))
         AND (dbo.tblCustomers.CreditStatus NOT LIKE 'Last%' OR 
dbo.tblCustomers.CreditStatus IS NULL)
         -- Remming out this statement works
         AND (dbo.tblCustStatement.StatementNumber <> 1)
ORDER BY CustName, dbo.tblCustomers.AccountNo, 
dbo.tblCustStatement.StatementDate

When I remark out any 1 of the AND statements noted above in the 
WHERE clause the results come back in a couple of seconds.
However, when I include all AND statement the query runs doesn't 
return any results (at least not within the first ten minutes!)

There doesn't seem to be any pattern to the lines that can be remmed 
or combinations of remaining lines.  The only clue I have is that 
data from the database from two months ago works fine but there are 
750 more records in each table being filtered.

Any suggestions as to how I can solve this - it seems to be a data 
issue but the various combinations of AND statements above doesn't make
sense.


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From artful at rogers.com  Wed Nov 22 06:14:50 2006
From: artful at rogers.com (artful at rogers.com)
Date: Wed, 22 Nov 2006 04:14:50 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [AccessD] Stored Procedure not producing results
Message-ID: <20061122121451.37330.qmail@web88207.mail.re2.yahoo.com>

Right on. That's why I suggested the default GetDate(). 

There is a whole other subject on this, about which I have written, but I googled it and it didn't come up, so perhaps I wrote it and forgot to sell it to somebody.  The gist is this: it's called PITA, which doesn't mean pain in the arse, but rather Point In Time Architecture. Without PITA, the central problem with relational databases is that they don't provide an instant "roll back to August 1" capability. With PITA, they do. It's not all that complicated, but it does require a detailed walk-through so you can understand all the implications, the most critical of which is, "Nothing is ever updated. An updated row is actually replaced, and the updated row's EndDate column is updated to reflect the datetime on which the row was "changed". Thus it becomes possible to issue a query that reflects the state of the database on August 1, 2005. Obviously this increases the size of the db significantly, but in certain environments (such as medical), this is critical -- who was
 JWC's physician on that date, and what tests were performed, and by which medicos, and so on.

So. Today's job is to dig out that PITA article and pitch it to somebody. 

Arthur

----- Original Message ----
From: JWColby <jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com>
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Wednesday, November 22, 2006 6:16:35 AM
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Stored Procedure not producing results

>This assumes of course that the scope is expandable so easily. (A good
reason to have a "DateEntered" column in every table, which defaults to
GetDate()). 

Amen!  I do that regularly now.  It juts makes managing data so much easier
when you can see when it was entered.  I actually use the date + time so
that I can see things like how long an append query takes to run (time of
last entry in the "batch minus time of first entry in the "batch").


John W. Colby
Colby Consulting
www.ColbyConsulting.com

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of artful at rogers.com
Sent: Wednesday, November 22, 2006 6:08 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Stored Procedure not producing results

If the structures haven't changed, then the data is the villain. But you
have a concrete clue to work from. Devise some scope that will include only
the data from two months ago and verify your assertion. Then expand the
scope to "two months ago plus a day" and run it again. Repeat until failure.

This assumes of course that the scope is expandable so easily. (A good
reason to have a "DateEntered" column in every table, which defaults to
GetDate()). 

----- Original Message ----
From: David Emerson <newsgrps at dalyn.co.nz>
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>; Access Developers discussion and problem
solving <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Tuesday, November 21, 2006 10:53:58 PM
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Stored Procedure not producing results

Worse - my database from two months ago works fine, but the latest version
is the one that is causing the problem.  This may indicate a data problem
perhaps?

David




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From shamil at users.mns.ru  Wed Nov 22 07:27:43 2006
From: shamil at users.mns.ru (Shamil Salakhetdinov)
Date: Wed, 22 Nov 2006 16:27:43 +0300
Subject: [AccessD] Stored Procedure not producing results
In-Reply-To: <20061122121451.37330.qmail@web88207.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <000601c70e3a$00281f70$6401a8c0@nant>


<<<
So. Today's job is to dig out that PITA article and pitch it to somebody.
>>>
Arthur,

I must say I did "muse" on similar to your PITA ("Point in Time
Architecture") subject somewhere in year 1992 or 1993, that time in FIDO
groups and in Russian...

Am I wrong - wasn't that feature of versioned database data somehow limited
but built-in way implemented in Borland Interbase?

And in MS SQL Server it can be relatively inexpensive way
implemented/simulated using triggers - correct?

--
Shamil
 
-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of artful at rogers.com
Sent: Wednesday, November 22, 2006 3:15 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Stored Procedure not producing results

Right on. That's why I suggested the default GetDate(). 

There is a whole other subject on this, about which I have written, but I
googled it and it didn't come up, so perhaps I wrote it and forgot to sell
it to somebody.  The gist is this: it's called PITA, which doesn't mean pain
in the arse, but rather Point In Time Architecture. Without PITA, the
central problem with relational databases is that they don't provide an
instant "roll back to August 1" capability. With PITA, they do. It's not all
that complicated, but it does require a detailed walk-through so you can
understand all the implications, the most critical of which is, "Nothing is
ever updated. An updated row is actually replaced, and the updated row's
EndDate column is updated to reflect the datetime on which the row was
"changed". Thus it becomes possible to issue a query that reflects the state
of the database on August 1, 2005. Obviously this increases the size of the
db significantly, but in certain environments (such as medical), this is
critical -- who was
 JWC's physician on that date, and what tests were performed, and by which
medicos, and so on.

So. Today's job is to dig out that PITA article and pitch it to somebody. 

Arthur


<<< tail skipped >>>



From Gustav at cactus.dk  Wed Nov 22 07:41:01 2006
From: Gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Wed, 22 Nov 2006 14:41:01 +0100
Subject: [AccessD] Temporal database (was: Stored Procedure not
	producing	results)
Message-ID: <s5646196.088@cactus.dk>

Hi Arthur

I don't recall you have written about PITA here, but what you describe
is generally known as a temporal database.
This is well-known and has been dealt with by some great capacities in
the database world, Michael Boehlen, Christian Jensen, Richard Snodgrass
and Andreas Steiner.

http://www.cs.arizona.edu/people/rts/timecenter/timecenter.html 

A brief explanation and introduction can be found here:

http://www.timeconsult.com/TemporalData/TemporalData.html 

Note the link to TimeDB, a Java implementing of "A Bitemporal
Relational DBMS" for Oracle 10g

Also, look up my previous post(ings) on these:

http://databaseadvisors.com/pipermail/accessd/2005-May/034503.html 
http://databaseadvisors.com/pipermail/accessd/2005-May/034455.html 

This is a very exciting area. For some applications it won't even
require that much more data storage (accounting). 
A simplified approach is a write-only database (which means write and
read but neither delete nor update) which both Cach? and MySQL offers.

Now, wouldn't it be nice if only TSQL2 could be implemented in Access:

http://www.cs.arizona.edu/people/rts/tsql2.html 

/gustav


>>> artful at rogers.com 22-11-2006 13:14:50 >>>
Right on. That's why I suggested the default GetDate(). 

There is a whole other subject on this, about which I have written, but
I googled it and it didn't come up, so perhaps I wrote it and forgot to
sell it to somebody.  The gist is this: it's called PITA, which doesn't
mean pain in the arse, but rather Point In Time Architecture. Without
PITA, the central problem with relational databases is that they don't
provide an instant "roll back to August 1" capability. With PITA, they
do. It's not all that complicated, but it does require a detailed
walk-through so you can understand all the implications, the most
critical of which is, "Nothing is ever updated. An updated row is
actually replaced, and the updated row's EndDate column is updated to
reflect the datetime on which the row was "changed". Thus it becomes
possible to issue a query that reflects the state of the database on
August 1, 2005. Obviously this increases the size of the db
significantly, but in certain environments (such as medical), this is
critical -- who was
 JWC's physician on that date, and what tests were performed, and by
which medicos, and so on.

So. Today's job is to dig out that PITA article and pitch it to
somebody. 

Arthur


From artful at rogers.com  Wed Nov 22 08:03:13 2006
From: artful at rogers.com (artful at rogers.com)
Date: Wed, 22 Nov 2006 06:03:13 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [AccessD] Stored Procedure not producing results
Message-ID: <20061122140314.81269.qmail@web88214.mail.re2.yahoo.com>

I have no way to verify whether you mused on this subject or not, but since you asked, I will provide a thumbnail sketch:

0. You could do it with triggers, but that would not be my first choice.
1. every table will contain two columns called BeginDate and EndDate.
2. any inserted row will have a NOT NULL value in BeginDate, not necessarily equivalent to today (otherwise you couldn't insert a row that takes effect on January 1, 2007).
3. any row  without an EndDate is assumed to be effective now.
4. any update to an existing row copies its data to a new row, fills in the EndDate column on the existing row with GetDate(), and supplies GetDate() as the BeginDate on the new row.
5. Any "deleted" row is not actually deleted. Rather, it is preserved, but its EndDate column is updpated to GetDate().

That's a quick thumbnail sketch of PITA. I may have left out a quirk or two in the sketch, but that's the basic idea. Nothing is destroyed. Everything is kept, and its time-span is demarcated by its BeginDate and EndDate columns. 

Taking a practical example, I just switched doctors yesterday. This involves several operations.

1. The "family physician" has changed, but do not destroy the previous data. Therefore insert a new row whose BeginDate is yesterday, and update the previous row, changing its EndDate to yesterday.
2. Agree that all previous medical data concerning me shall be forwarded to the new physician. (Called Consent, in the medical lingo.)
3. Step two can be further refined, as in "release data about conditions x, y and z, but not t, u and v" to my new physician.

At the end of the day, for various important reasons, not the least of which is litigation, we must be able to determine the state of your particular record(s) in the database as of January 1, 2004. Who was your physician? What rights did she have to your prior data? What tests were performed upon you, and on what dates, and with what results and with what follow-ups?

I chose this example a) because I have been there and written that, and b) because it illustrates the problem vividly. We could easily substitute lawyers for the physicians, or dentists, or any professional, including ourselves, software developers. Consider a project as a metaphorical person in the above. In 2001, the practitioner list comprised Fuller, Colby and Salakhetdinov. In 2002, it comprised Hindman, Carbonell, Colby and Lawrence. In the medical schema, one could easily have several practitioners, one for heart, one for ENT (ear, nose, throat), one for gynecology, etc. And the same holds true for a software client -- she employs an accounting expert, a CRM expert, an Excel macro wizard, an Access expert, and so on.

That was a bit of a sidetrack, but remains on point, I think. The point being, "We need to be able to roll back the database to any given PIT without actually having to do a restore. We just want to specify a date (Jan 1 2004) and without changing a single line of code, run the reports.

That is the point of PITA.

It must be designed in from the outset. Not every app needs PITA, but it becomes very difficult to add it after the fact. As anyone who has followed my threads must know by now, I tend toward extremism. That said, I suggest that you design PITA in, just in case it later becomes needed. In that case, you look like a genius. And if the requirement never emerges, you wasted some very cheap disk space. 

Arthur
 ----- Original Message ----
From: Shamil Salakhetdinov <shamil at users.mns.ru>
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Wednesday, November 22, 2006 8:27:43 AM
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Stored Procedure not producing results


<<<
So. Today's job is to dig out that PITA article and pitch it to somebody.
>>>
Arthur,

I must say I did "muse" on similar to your PITA ("Point in Time
Architecture") subject somewhere in year 1992 or 1993, that time in FIDO
groups and in Russian...

Am I wrong - wasn't that feature of versioned database data somehow limited
but built-in way implemented in Borland Interbase?

And in MS SQL Server it can be relatively inexpensive way
implemented/simulated using triggers - correct?

--
Shamil
 





From artful at rogers.com  Wed Nov 22 08:10:35 2006
From: artful at rogers.com (artful at rogers.com)
Date: Wed, 22 Nov 2006 06:10:35 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [AccessD] Temporal database (was: Stored Procedure not
	producing results)
Message-ID: <20061122141035.57453.qmail@web88213.mail.re2.yahoo.com>

My personal fave in this category is the Kimball Group. Specifically, for MS SQL, I recommend "The Microsoft Data Warehouse Toolkit" by Joy Mundy and Warren Thornthwaite. There is extensive discussion therein about SCDs (slowly changing dimensions).

I will check out your sources, too.

A.

----- Original Message ----
From: Gustav Brock <Gustav at cactus.dk>
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Sent: Wednesday, November 22, 2006 8:41:01 AM
Subject: [AccessD] Temporal database (was: Stored Procedure not producing results)

Hi Arthur

I don't recall you have written about PITA here, but what you describe
is generally known as a temporal database.
This is well-known and has been dealt with by some great capacities in
the database world, Michael Boehlen, Christian Jensen, Richard Snodgrass
and Andreas Steiner.

http://www.cs.arizona.edu/people/rts/timecenter/timecenter.html 

A brief explanation and introduction can be found here:

http://www.timeconsult.com/TemporalData/TemporalData.html 

Note the link to TimeDB, a Java implementing of "A Bitemporal
Relational DBMS" for Oracle 10g

Also, look up my previous post(ings) on these:

http://databaseadvisors.com/pipermail/accessd/2005-May/034503.html 
http://databaseadvisors.com/pipermail/accessd/2005-May/034455.html 

This is a very exciting area. For some applications it won't even
require that much more data storage (accounting). 
A simplified approach is a write-only database (which means write and
read but neither delete nor update) which both Cach? and MySQL offers.

Now, wouldn't it be nice if only TSQL2 could be implemented in Access:

http://www.cs.arizona.edu/people/rts/tsql2.html 

/gustav






From adtp at airtelbroadband.in  Wed Nov 22 08:42:07 2006
From: adtp at airtelbroadband.in (A.D.TEJPAL)
Date: Wed, 22 Nov 2006 20:12:07 +0530
Subject: [AccessD] Excel Import
References: <s562f104.064@cactus.dk>
Message-ID: <012601c70e44$6eef73e0$9f0b65cb@pcadt>

    Updating of data in Access db via import or link from Excel workbook, based upon dynamic named range is demonstrated in my sample db named ExcelToAccess, available at Rogers Access Library (other developers library). Link - http://www.rogersaccesslibrary.com/OtherLibraries.asp#Tejpal,A.D.
 
    The process is driven from excel end. Data blocks can be located anywhere on any of the worksheets. Progressive data transfers, involving more than one sheet (a sheet at a time), can be carried out as required.

    Two alternative styles are covered:
    (a) Select top left column heading of data block and execute.
    (b) No need to select any cell. Data block on active sheet will get transferred.
 
A.D.Tejpal
---------------

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Gustav Brock 
  To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com 
  Sent: Tuesday, November 21, 2006 16:58
  Subject: Re: [AccessD] Excel Import


  Hi Don

  Perhaps this about Dynamic Named Ranges:

  http://databaseadvisors.com/pipermail/accessd/2006-March/042838.html 

  Unfortunately, exactly such a range can _not_ be used as the source when linking or importing.

  /gustav

  >>> Donald.A.McGillivray at sprint.com 21-11-2006 00:31:00 >>>
  True, but the inserted rows need to be ABOVE the last row in the existing range in order for this to work, no?  Not such a big deal if you're adding a row or two, but when adding large blocks of data, it can be a pain to insert exactly (or slightly more than) the number or rows you want before adding the data.  You definitely don't want to insert fewer than you will need.

  I seem to remember somebody (Gustav?) posting some code a few months back that managed the dynamic expansion of a named range in Excel.  Don't remember how it worked, or anything else about it, but it looked like a useful thing for situations like this.  Does that ring a bell with anybody else?

  Don

From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com  Wed Nov 22 08:49:02 2006
From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (JWColby)
Date: Wed, 22 Nov 2006 09:49:02 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Stored Procedure not producing results
In-Reply-To: <20061122140314.81269.qmail@web88214.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <002401c70e45$5bf120d0$647aa8c0@m6805>

Yes, but there has to be a limit somewhere.  Suppose the physician moved.
Do I care what his old address was.  It is the same physician.  Suppose he
gets a new phone number, fax number, etc.  I can see where in some cases you
would want to preserve every piece of data in particular tables, but in
EVERY table?

And in your "family doctor" example, why not simply create a doctor table,
then a FamilyDoctor table that relates family to doctor.  The FamilyDoctor
table has a begin / end date.  New doctor, new entry in the FamilyDoctor
table.  The old FamilyDoctor entry remains and provides the history of who
the family doctor was at any given date.  The m-m FamilyDoctor table is just
two pointers (family and doctor) and a begin / end date.  MUCH simpler than
preserving the entire doctor record whenever any tiny piece of that doctor
record changed, not to mention updating a pointer to that doctor record in
every family's record when some trivial piece of doctor info changes.

Again, I am not arguing with the concept, simply the scope of application of
the concept.

So IF you agree that you limit the scope to specific tables, how do you
determine and automatically apply the concept to specific tables, and not to
others?

John W. Colby
Colby Consulting
www.ColbyConsulting.com

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of artful at rogers.com
Sent: Wednesday, November 22, 2006 9:03 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Stored Procedure not producing results

I have no way to verify whether you mused on this subject or not, but since
you asked, I will provide a thumbnail sketch:

0. You could do it with triggers, but that would not be my first choice.
1. every table will contain two columns called BeginDate and EndDate.
2. any inserted row will have a NOT NULL value in BeginDate, not necessarily
equivalent to today (otherwise you couldn't insert a row that takes effect
on January 1, 2007).
3. any row  without an EndDate is assumed to be effective now.
4. any update to an existing row copies its data to a new row, fills in the
EndDate column on the existing row with GetDate(), and supplies GetDate() as
the BeginDate on the new row.
5. Any "deleted" row is not actually deleted. Rather, it is preserved, but
its EndDate column is updpated to GetDate().

That's a quick thumbnail sketch of PITA. I may have left out a quirk or two
in the sketch, but that's the basic idea. Nothing is destroyed. Everything
is kept, and its time-span is demarcated by its BeginDate and EndDate
columns. 

Taking a practical example, I just switched doctors yesterday. This involves
several operations.

1. The "family physician" has changed, but do not destroy the previous data.
Therefore insert a new row whose BeginDate is yesterday, and update the
previous row, changing its EndDate to yesterday.
2. Agree that all previous medical data concerning me shall be forwarded to
the new physician. (Called Consent, in the medical lingo.) 3. Step two can
be further refined, as in "release data about conditions x, y and z, but not
t, u and v" to my new physician.

At the end of the day, for various important reasons, not the least of which
is litigation, we must be able to determine the state of your particular
record(s) in the database as of January 1, 2004. Who was your physician?
What rights did she have to your prior data? What tests were performed upon
you, and on what dates, and with what results and with what follow-ups?

I chose this example a) because I have been there and written that, and b)
because it illustrates the problem vividly. We could easily substitute
lawyers for the physicians, or dentists, or any professional, including
ourselves, software developers. Consider a project as a metaphorical person
in the above. In 2001, the practitioner list comprised Fuller, Colby and
Salakhetdinov. In 2002, it comprised Hindman, Carbonell, Colby and Lawrence.
In the medical schema, one could easily have several practitioners, one for
heart, one for ENT (ear, nose, throat), one for gynecology, etc. And the
same holds true for a software client -- she employs an accounting expert, a
CRM expert, an Excel macro wizard, an Access expert, and so on.

That was a bit of a sidetrack, but remains on point, I think. The point
being, "We need to be able to roll back the database to any given PIT
without actually having to do a restore. We just want to specify a date (Jan
1 2004) and without changing a single line of code, run the reports.

That is the point of PITA.

It must be designed in from the outset. Not every app needs PITA, but it
becomes very difficult to add it after the fact. As anyone who has followed
my threads must know by now, I tend toward extremism. That said, I suggest
that you design PITA in, just in case it later becomes needed. In that case,
you look like a genius. And if the requirement never emerges, you wasted
some very cheap disk space. 

Arthur
 ----- Original Message ----
From: Shamil Salakhetdinov <shamil at users.mns.ru>
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Wednesday, November 22, 2006 8:27:43 AM
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Stored Procedure not producing results


<<<
So. Today's job is to dig out that PITA article and pitch it to somebody.
>>>
Arthur,

I must say I did "muse" on similar to your PITA ("Point in Time
Architecture") subject somewhere in year 1992 or 1993, that time in FIDO
groups and in Russian...

Am I wrong - wasn't that feature of versioned database data somehow limited
but built-in way implemented in Borland Interbase?

And in MS SQL Server it can be relatively inexpensive way
implemented/simulated using triggers - correct?

--
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From shamil at users.mns.ru  Wed Nov 22 08:49:33 2006
From: shamil at users.mns.ru (Shamil Salakhetdinov)
Date: Wed, 22 Nov 2006 17:49:33 +0300
Subject: [AccessD] Stored Procedure not producing results
In-Reply-To: <20061122140314.81269.qmail@web88214.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <003b01c70e45$6c84e710$6401a8c0@nant>

<<<
As anyone who has followed my threads must
know by now, I tend toward extremism.
>>>
That's so true Arthur! :) (Just kidding of course)

<<<
That said, I suggest that you design PITA in,
just in case it later becomes needed.
>>>
Arthur, these days I'm "biased" toward simple designs and MS SQL triggers
and a parallel OLAP database could be such relatively simple extendable
(plugged/unplugged anytime) solution. I mean I'd just use such triggers to
"replicate" deleted/inserted/updated rows into parallel OLAP database with
tables' structure as you describe i.e. with BeginData and EndDate added.
(And I'd do that only for the tables' customers wanted to have your PITA
enabled with.)
Then all PITA enabled forms/reports/SPs/... will use this parallel OLAP
database together with actual OLTP one if needed...

Do I miss some more effective solutions of this practical task? As you wrote
harddisk memory is cheap these days - I agree with that of course - that's
also a point, which makes rather simple solution with "parallel versioned
data OLAP database" inexpensive...

<<<
"We need to be able to roll back the database to any given PIT without
actually having to do a restore. We just want to specify a date (Jan 1 2004)
and without changing a single line of code, run the reports.
>>> 
You mean "virtual rollback" of course? IOW a "point in time aware"
view/SP/UDF?
 
--
Shamil
 
-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of artful at rogers.com
Sent: Wednesday, November 22, 2006 5:03 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Stored Procedure not producing results

I have no way to verify whether you mused on this subject or not, but since
you asked, I will provide a thumbnail sketch:

0. You could do it with triggers, but that would not be my first choice.
1. every table will contain two columns called BeginDate and EndDate.
2. any inserted row will have a NOT NULL value in BeginDate, not necessarily
equivalent to today (otherwise you couldn't insert a row that takes effect
on January 1, 2007).
3. any row  without an EndDate is assumed to be effective now.
4. any update to an existing row copies its data to a new row, fills in the
EndDate column on the existing row with GetDate(), and supplies GetDate() as
the BeginDate on the new row.
5. Any "deleted" row is not actually deleted. Rather, it is preserved, but
its EndDate column is updpated to GetDate().

That's a quick thumbnail sketch of PITA. I may have left out a quirk or two
in the sketch, but that's the basic idea. Nothing is destroyed. Everything
is kept, and its time-span is demarcated by its BeginDate and EndDate
columns. 

Taking a practical example, I just switched doctors yesterday. This involves
several operations.

1. The "family physician" has changed, but do not destroy the previous data.
Therefore insert a new row whose BeginDate is yesterday, and update the
previous row, changing its EndDate to yesterday.
2. Agree that all previous medical data concerning me shall be forwarded to
the new physician. (Called Consent, in the medical lingo.)
3. Step two can be further refined, as in "release data about conditions x,
y and z, but not t, u and v" to my new physician.

At the end of the day, for various important reasons, not the least of which
is litigation, we must be able to determine the state of your particular
record(s) in the database as of January 1, 2004. Who was your physician?
What rights did she have to your prior data? What tests were performed upon
you, and on what dates, and with what results and with what follow-ups?

I chose this example a) because I have been there and written that, and b)
because it illustrates the problem vividly. We could easily substitute
lawyers for the physicians, or dentists, or any professional, including
ourselves, software developers. Consider a project as a metaphorical person
in the above. In 2001, the practitioner list comprised Fuller, Colby and
Salakhetdinov. In 2002, it comprised Hindman, Carbonell, Colby and Lawrence.
In the medical schema, one could easily have several practitioners, one for
heart, one for ENT (ear, nose, throat), one for gynecology, etc. And the
same holds true for a software client -- she employs an accounting expert, a
CRM expert, an Excel macro wizard, an Access expert, and so on.

That was a bit of a sidetrack, but remains on point, I think. The point
being, "We need to be able to roll back the database to any given PIT
without actually having to do a restore. We just want to specify a date (Jan
1 2004) and without changing a single line of code, run the reports.

That is the point of PITA.

It must be designed in from the outset. Not every app needs PITA, but it
becomes very difficult to add it after the fact. As anyone who has followed
my threads must know by now, I tend toward extremism. That said, I suggest
that you design PITA in, just in case it later becomes needed. In that case,
you look like a genius. And if the requirement never emerges, you wasted
some very cheap disk space. 

Arthur

<<< tail skipped>>>



From artful at rogers.com  Wed Nov 22 09:14:18 2006
From: artful at rogers.com (artful at rogers.com)
Date: Wed, 22 Nov 2006 07:14:18 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [AccessD] Stored Procedure not producing results
Message-ID: <20061122151418.26001.qmail@web88206.mail.re2.yahoo.com>

It seems that you missed the point, JWC. In a PITA setup, nothing is ever destroyed or overwritten. Thus I can roll back the database (metaphorically) and discover that on January 11, 2004 Dr. JWC had his office at 123 Main Street, but on February 1st of the same year, he moved his offices to 234 Side Street. On the former date, Dr. JWC had x clients, and on the latter date he had y clients.

That is the whole point of PITA.

You do not apply the concept to some tables and not others, in general. The distinction lies on QCDs (quickly changing dimensions) versus SCDs (slowly changing dimensions). To be safe, you apply the "do not destroy anything" to all tables in the database. For example, Yugloslavia and the former USSR became several countries recently. But we need to be able to look up JWC as of September, 1990 and see the data as it existed then. At that time, Sarajevo was in Yugoslavia. Now it is not. I still need to preserve your 1990 address.

Arthur

----- Original Message ----
From: JWColby <jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com>
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Wednesday, November 22, 2006 9:49:02 AM
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Stored Procedure not producing results

Yes, but there has to be a limit somewhere.  Suppose the physician moved.
Do I care what his old address was.  It is the same physician.  Suppose he
gets a new phone number, fax number, etc.  I can see where in some cases you
would want to preserve every piece of data in particular tables, but in
EVERY table?

And in your "family doctor" example, why not simply create a doctor table,
then a FamilyDoctor table that relates family to doctor.  The FamilyDoctor
table has a begin / end date.  New doctor, new entry in the FamilyDoctor
table.  The old FamilyDoctor entry remains and provides the history of who
the family doctor was at any given date.  The m-m FamilyDoctor table is just
two pointers (family and doctor) and a begin / end date.  MUCH simpler than
preserving the entire doctor record whenever any tiny piece of that doctor
record changed, not to mention updating a pointer to that doctor record in
every family's record when some trivial piece of doctor info changes.

Again, I am not arguing with the concept, simply the scope of application of
the concept.

So IF you agree that you limit the scope to specific tables, how do you
determine and automatically apply the concept to specific tables, and not to
others?

John W. Colby
Colby Consulting
www.ColbyConsulting.com

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of artful at rogers.com
Sent: Wednesday, November 22, 2006 9:03 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Stored Procedure not producing results

I have no way to verify whether you mused on this subject or not, but since
you asked, I will provide a thumbnail sketch:

0. You could do it with triggers, but that would not be my first choice.
1. every table will contain two columns called BeginDate and EndDate.
2. any inserted row will have a NOT NULL value in BeginDate, not necessarily
equivalent to today (otherwise you couldn't insert a row that takes effect
on January 1, 2007).
3. any row  without an EndDate is assumed to be effective now.
4. any update to an existing row copies its data to a new row, fills in the
EndDate column on the existing row with GetDate(), and supplies GetDate() as
the BeginDate on the new row.
5. Any "deleted" row is not actually deleted. Rather, it is preserved, but
its EndDate column is updpated to GetDate().

That's a quick thumbnail sketch of PITA. I may have left out a quirk or two
in the sketch, but that's the basic idea. Nothing is destroyed. Everything
is kept, and its time-span is demarcated by its BeginDate and EndDate
columns. 

Taking a practical example, I just switched doctors yesterday. This involves
several operations.

1. The "family physician" has changed, but do not destroy the previous data.
Therefore insert a new row whose BeginDate is yesterday, and update the
previous row, changing its EndDate to yesterday.
2. Agree that all previous medical data concerning me shall be forwarded to
the new physician. (Called Consent, in the medical lingo.) 3. Step two can
be further refined, as in "release data about conditions x, y and z, but not
t, u and v" to my new physician.

At the end of the day, for various important reasons, not the least of which
is litigation, we must be able to determine the state of your particular
record(s) in the database as of January 1, 2004. Who was your physician?
What rights did she have to your prior data? What tests were performed upon
you, and on what dates, and with what results and with what follow-ups?

I chose this example a) because I have been there and written that, and b)
because it illustrates the problem vividly. We could easily substitute
lawyers for the physicians, or dentists, or any professional, including
ourselves, software developers. Consider a project as a metaphorical person
in the above. In 2001, the practitioner list comprised Fuller, Colby and
Salakhetdinov. In 2002, it comprised Hindman, Carbonell, Colby and Lawrence.
In the medical schema, one could easily have several practitioners, one for
heart, one for ENT (ear, nose, throat), one for gynecology, etc. And the
same holds true for a software client -- she employs an accounting expert, a
CRM expert, an Excel macro wizard, an Access expert, and so on.

That was a bit of a sidetrack, but remains on point, I think. The point
being, "We need to be able to roll back the database to any given PIT
without actually having to do a restore. We just want to specify a date (Jan
1 2004) and without changing a single line of code, run the reports.

That is the point of PITA.

It must be designed in from the outset. Not every app needs PITA, but it
becomes very difficult to add it after the fact. As anyone who has followed
my threads must know by now, I tend toward extremism. That said, I suggest
that you design PITA in, just in case it later becomes needed. In that case,
you look like a genius. And if the requirement never emerges, you wasted
some very cheap disk space. 

Arthur
 ----- Original Message ----
From: Shamil Salakhetdinov <shamil at users.mns.ru>
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Wednesday, November 22, 2006 8:27:43 AM
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Stored Procedure not producing results


<<<
So. Today's job is to dig out that PITA article and pitch it to somebody.
>>>
Arthur,

I must say I did "muse" on similar to your PITA ("Point in Time
Architecture") subject somewhere in year 1992 or 1993, that time in FIDO
groups and in Russian...

Am I wrong - wasn't that feature of versioned database data somehow limited
but built-in way implemented in Borland Interbase?

And in MS SQL Server it can be relatively inexpensive way
implemented/simulated using triggers - correct?

--
Shamil
 



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From Kwilliamson at RTKL.com  Wed Nov 22 09:18:40 2006
From: Kwilliamson at RTKL.com (Keith Williamson)
Date: Wed, 22 Nov 2006 10:18:40 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Excel Import
Message-ID: <B7450F806572FD4AA30B664E5FE127FB125A6D@sherman.rtkl.rtkl.net>

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21231-3305

410-537-6098 direct | 410-276-2136 fax | www.rtkl.com

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of A.D.TEJPAL
Sent: Wednesday, November 22, 2006 9:42 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Excel Import

    Updating of data in Access db via import or link from Excel
workbook, based upon dynamic named range is demonstrated in my sample db
named ExcelToAccess, available at Rogers Access Library (other
developers library). Link -
http://www.rogersaccesslibrary.com/OtherLibraries.asp#Tejpal,A.D.
 
    The process is driven from excel end. Data blocks can be located
anywhere on any of the worksheets. Progressive data transfers, involving
more than one sheet (a sheet at a time), can be carried out as required.

    Two alternative styles are covered:
    (a) Select top left column heading of data block and execute.
    (b) No need to select any cell. Data block on active sheet will get
transferred.
 
A.D.Tejpal
---------------

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Gustav Brock 
  To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com 
  Sent: Tuesday, November 21, 2006 16:58
  Subject: Re: [AccessD] Excel Import


  Hi Don

  Perhaps this about Dynamic Named Ranges:

  http://databaseadvisors.com/pipermail/accessd/2006-March/042838.html 

  Unfortunately, exactly such a range can _not_ be used as the source
when linking or importing.

  /gustav

  >>> Donald.A.McGillivray at sprint.com 21-11-2006 00:31:00 >>>
  True, but the inserted rows need to be ABOVE the last row in the
existing range in order for this to work, no?  Not such a big deal if
you're adding a row or two, but when adding large blocks of data, it can
be a pain to insert exactly (or slightly more than) the number or rows
you want before adding the data.  You definitely don't want to insert
fewer than you will need.

  I seem to remember somebody (Gustav?) posting some code a few months
back that managed the dynamic expansion of a named range in Excel.
Don't remember how it worked, or anything else about it, but it looked
like a useful thing for situations like this.  Does that ring a bell
with anybody else?

  Don
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From artful at rogers.com  Wed Nov 22 09:18:44 2006
From: artful at rogers.com (artful at rogers.com)
Date: Wed, 22 Nov 2006 07:18:44 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [AccessD] Stored Procedure not producing results
Message-ID: <20061122151845.63792.qmail@web88209.mail.re2.yahoo.com>

I agree with you on the usefulness of triggers, but there are problems (surmountable). Consider a database (or collection of databases) whose size grows by a TB per year. This is going to be a huge problem, literally. Chances are that you won't be able to support the OLTP and OLAP instances on a single server, unless you have a SAN and very fancy hardware. This is going to cause RI problems (on MS-SQL at least; Oracle has table-spaces and can easily work around this issue), and also trigger complexities (fire a trigger on instance X and have it do something to instance Y which resides on another server in another city). It can be done, but it is non-trivial.

And I am "extremely" flattered that you noticed. 

----- Original Message ----
From: Shamil Salakhetdinov <shamil at users.mns.ru>
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Wednesday, November 22, 2006 9:49:33 AM
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Stored Procedure not producing results

<<<
As anyone who has followed my threads must
know by now, I tend toward extremism.
>>>
That's so true Arthur! :) (Just kidding of course)

<<<
That said, I suggest that you design PITA in,
just in case it later becomes needed.
>>>
Arthur, these days I'm "biased" toward simple designs and MS SQL triggers
and a parallel OLAP database could be such relatively simple extendable
(plugged/unplugged anytime) solution. I mean I'd just use such triggers to
"replicate" deleted/inserted/updated rows into parallel OLAP database with
tables' structure as you describe i.e. with BeginData and EndDate added.
(And I'd do that only for the tables' customers wanted to have your PITA
enabled with.)
Then all PITA enabled forms/reports/SPs/... will use this parallel OLAP
database together with actual OLTP one if needed...

Do I miss some more effective solutions of this practical task? As you wrote
harddisk memory is cheap these days - I agree with that of course - that's
also a point, which makes rather simple solution with "parallel versioned
data OLAP database" inexpensive...

<<<
"We need to be able to roll back the database to any given PIT without
actually having to do a restore. We just want to specify a date (Jan 1 2004)
and without changing a single line of code, run the reports.
>>> 
You mean "virtual rollback" of course? IOW a "point in time aware"
view/SP/UDF?
 
--
Shamil
 
-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of artful at rogers.com
Sent: Wednesday, November 22, 2006 5:03 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Stored Procedure not producing results

I have no way to verify whether you mused on this subject or not, but since
you asked, I will provide a thumbnail sketch:

0. You could do it with triggers, but that would not be my first choice.
1. every table will contain two columns called BeginDate and EndDate.
2. any inserted row will have a NOT NULL value in BeginDate, not necessarily
equivalent to today (otherwise you couldn't insert a row that takes effect
on January 1, 2007).
3. any row  without an EndDate is assumed to be effective now.
4. any update to an existing row copies its data to a new row, fills in the
EndDate column on the existing row with GetDate(), and supplies GetDate() as
the BeginDate on the new row.
5. Any "deleted" row is not actually deleted. Rather, it is preserved, but
its EndDate column is updpated to GetDate().

That's a quick thumbnail sketch of PITA. I may have left out a quirk or two
in the sketch, but that's the basic idea. Nothing is destroyed. Everything
is kept, and its time-span is demarcated by its BeginDate and EndDate
columns. 

Taking a practical example, I just switched doctors yesterday. This involves
several operations.

1. The "family physician" has changed, but do not destroy the previous data.
Therefore insert a new row whose BeginDate is yesterday, and update the
previous row, changing its EndDate to yesterday.
2. Agree that all previous medical data concerning me shall be forwarded to
the new physician. (Called Consent, in the medical lingo.)
3. Step two can be further refined, as in "release data about conditions x,
y and z, but not t, u and v" to my new physician.

At the end of the day, for various important reasons, not the least of which
is litigation, we must be able to determine the state of your particular
record(s) in the database as of January 1, 2004. Who was your physician?
What rights did she have to your prior data? What tests were performed upon
you, and on what dates, and with what results and with what follow-ups?

I chose this example a) because I have been there and written that, and b)
because it illustrates the problem vividly. We could easily substitute
lawyers for the physicians, or dentists, or any professional, including
ourselves, software developers. Consider a project as a metaphorical person
in the above. In 2001, the practitioner list comprised Fuller, Colby and
Salakhetdinov. In 2002, it comprised Hindman, Carbonell, Colby and Lawrence.
In the medical schema, one could easily have several practitioners, one for
heart, one for ENT (ear, nose, throat), one for gynecology, etc. And the
same holds true for a software client -- she employs an accounting expert, a
CRM expert, an Excel macro wizard, an Access expert, and so on.

That was a bit of a sidetrack, but remains on point, I think. The point
being, "We need to be able to roll back the database to any given PIT
without actually having to do a restore. We just want to specify a date (Jan
1 2004) and without changing a single line of code, run the reports.

That is the point of PITA.

It must be designed in from the outset. Not every app needs PITA, but it
becomes very difficult to add it after the fact. As anyone who has followed
my threads must know by now, I tend toward extremism. That said, I suggest
that you design PITA in, just in case it later becomes needed. In that case,
you look like a genius. And if the requirement never emerges, you wasted
some very cheap disk space. 

Arthur

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From Gustav at cactus.dk  Wed Nov 22 09:45:32 2006
From: Gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Wed, 22 Nov 2006 16:45:32 +0100
Subject: [AccessD] Temporal database (was: Stored Procedure
	not	producing results)
Message-ID: <s5647ec1.089@cactus.dk>

Hi Arthur and Shamil

"We need to be able to roll back the database to any given PIT without
actually having to do a restore. We just want to specify a date (Jan 1
2004) and without changing a single line of code, run the reports."
>>> 
> You mean "virtual rollback" of course? IOW a "point in time aware"
view/SP/UDF?

Note that to implement a temporal database in full (I guess we will
loose JC here), not two but _four_ time fields must exist:

<quote>

In the literature, two time lines of interest have been mentioned,
transaction time and valid time. The valid time line represents when a
fact is valid in modelled world (i.e. when it was believed) and the
transaction time line represents when a transaction was performed. A
bitemporal database is a combination of valid time and transaction time
databases where these two time lines are considered to be orthogonal.
(Snodgrass & Ahn 1986)

</quote>

Again, accounting can display the beauty of this: Consider writing an
invoice; you do this, of course, "today", while the invoice date may be
either past, present, or future. Later, selecting on transaction dates
will reveal wether this invoice was created or not; selecting on valid
date will show wether this invoice was issued or not.

You may put it in another perspective: Transaction dates record by
themselves an audit trail which allows you to, at any time, to perform a
dynamic virtual rollback to any previous time, while the valid date will
show you the (approved) state of the data at that time. Specifically,
this allows you to correct previous recordings (say, a wrongly typed
invoice number of a supplier's invoice), or record a future change of a
customer's address and - until he moves - to issue invoices correctly
addressed to his present address.

/gustav

>>> artful at rogers.com 22-11-2006 15:10:35 >>>
My personal fave in this category is the Kimball Group. Specifically,
for MS SQL, I recommend "The Microsoft Data Warehouse Toolkit" by Joy
Mundy and Warren Thornthwaite. There is extensive discussion therein
about SCDs (slowly changing dimensions).

I will check out your sources, too.

A.

----- Original Message ----
From: Gustav Brock <Gustav at cactus.dk>
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com 
Sent: Wednesday, November 22, 2006 8:41:01 AM
Subject: [AccessD] Temporal database (was: Stored Procedure not
producing results)

Hi Arthur

I don't recall you have written about PITA here, but what you describe
is generally known as a temporal database.
This is well-known and has been dealt with by some great capacities in
the database world, Michael Boehlen, Christian Jensen, Richard
Snodgrass
and Andreas Steiner.

http://www.cs.arizona.edu/people/rts/timecenter/timecenter.html 

A brief explanation and introduction can be found here:

http://www.timeconsult.com/TemporalData/TemporalData.html 

Note the link to TimeDB, a Java implementing of "A Bitemporal
Relational DBMS" for Oracle 10g

Also, look up my previous post(ings) on these:

http://databaseadvisors.com/pipermail/accessd/2005-May/034503.html 
http://databaseadvisors.com/pipermail/accessd/2005-May/034455.html 

This is a very exciting area. For some applications it won't even
require that much more data storage (accounting). 
A simplified approach is a write-only database (which means write and
read but neither delete nor update) which both Cach? and MySQL offers.

Now, wouldn't it be nice if only TSQL2 could be implemented in Access:

http://www.cs.arizona.edu/people/rts/tsql2.html 

/gustav


From cfoust at infostatsystems.com  Wed Nov 22 09:53:43 2006
From: cfoust at infostatsystems.com (Charlotte Foust)
Date: Wed, 22 Nov 2006 07:53:43 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] Temporal database (was: Stored Procedure notproducing
	results)
In-Reply-To: <20061122141035.57453.qmail@web88213.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <F55048AF7E974F429BB24597D7355EEA17850C@INFOSERVER04.infostat.local>

I'm with you Arthur.  The Kimball Group stuff is where I learned about data warehousing, and I have at least 3 of his books.  Simple concept once you get your head wrapped around it. 

Charlotte Foust

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of artful at rogers.com
Sent: Wednesday, November 22, 2006 6:11 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Temporal database (was: Stored Procedure notproducing results)

My personal fave in this category is the Kimball Group. Specifically, for MS SQL, I recommend "The Microsoft Data Warehouse Toolkit" by Joy Mundy and Warren Thornthwaite. There is extensive discussion therein about SCDs (slowly changing dimensions).

I will check out your sources, too.

A.

----- Original Message ----
From: Gustav Brock <Gustav at cactus.dk>
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Sent: Wednesday, November 22, 2006 8:41:01 AM
Subject: [AccessD] Temporal database (was: Stored Procedure not producing results)

Hi Arthur

I don't recall you have written about PITA here, but what you describe is generally known as a temporal database.
This is well-known and has been dealt with by some great capacities in the database world, Michael Boehlen, Christian Jensen, Richard Snodgrass and Andreas Steiner.

http://www.cs.arizona.edu/people/rts/timecenter/timecenter.html 

A brief explanation and introduction can be found here:

http://www.timeconsult.com/TemporalData/TemporalData.html 

Note the link to TimeDB, a Java implementing of "A Bitemporal Relational DBMS" for Oracle 10g

Also, look up my previous post(ings) on these:

http://databaseadvisors.com/pipermail/accessd/2005-May/034503.html
http://databaseadvisors.com/pipermail/accessd/2005-May/034455.html 

This is a very exciting area. For some applications it won't even require that much more data storage (accounting). 
A simplified approach is a write-only database (which means write and read but neither delete nor update) which both Cach? and MySQL offers.

Now, wouldn't it be nice if only TSQL2 could be implemented in Access:

http://www.cs.arizona.edu/people/rts/tsql2.html 

/gustav




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From artful at rogers.com  Wed Nov 22 10:00:20 2006
From: artful at rogers.com (artful at rogers.com)
Date: Wed, 22 Nov 2006 08:00:20 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [AccessD] Temporal database (was: Stored Procedure not
	producing results)
Message-ID: <20061122160020.13994.qmail@web88204.mail.re2.yahoo.com>

Quite right, on all counts, Gustav. I stated purposely that I was providing a thumbnail sketch, but I ought to have included these points in said thumbnail. Thanks for the amendments.

Arthur



----- Original Message ----
From: Gustav Brock <Gustav at cactus.dk>
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Sent: Wednesday, November 22, 2006 10:45:32 AM
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Temporal database (was: Stored Procedure not producing results)

Hi Arthur and Shamil

"We need to be able to roll back the database to any given PIT without
actually having to do a restore. We just want to specify a date (Jan 1
2004) and without changing a single line of code, run the reports."
>>> 
> You mean "virtual rollback" of course? IOW a "point in time aware"
view/SP/UDF?

Note that to implement a temporal database in full (I guess we will
loose JC here), not two but _four_ time fields must exist:

<quote>

In the literature, two time lines of interest have been mentioned,
transaction time and valid time. The valid time line represents when a
fact is valid in modelled world (i.e. when it was believed) and the
transaction time line represents when a transaction was performed. A
bitemporal database is a combination of valid time and transaction time
databases where these two time lines are considered to be orthogonal.
(Snodgrass & Ahn 1986)

</quote>

Again, accounting can display the beauty of this: Consider writing an
invoice; you do this, of course, "today", while the invoice date may be
either past, present, or future. Later, selecting on transaction dates
will reveal wether this invoice was created or not; selecting on valid
date will show wether this invoice was issued or not.

You may put it in another perspective: Transaction dates record by
themselves an audit trail which allows you to, at any time, to perform a
dynamic virtual rollback to any previous time, while the valid date will
show you the (approved) state of the data at that time. Specifically,
this allows you to correct previous recordings (say, a wrongly typed
invoice number of a supplier's invoice), or record a future change of a
customer's address and - until he moves - to issue invoices correctly
addressed to his present address.

/gustav






From prodevmg at yahoo.com  Wed Nov 22 10:40:51 2006
From: prodevmg at yahoo.com (Lonnie Johnson)
Date: Wed, 22 Nov 2006 08:40:51 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [AccessD] Can I mouse over a continuous form's control and display
	the value?
Message-ID: <20061122164051.42401.qmail@web33114.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

I have a control on a continuous form. It does not show all the text because of size constraints. I want to mouse over this control and have the value of that control for that record to show in the ControlTextTip property. 

The control is also a calculated field. 

Is there any thing any one can think of for me to be able to show that value when I mouse over it?

I do not want to select the control either because there is code that will fire in the On Click event.
Thanks.
 








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From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com  Wed Nov 22 10:41:15 2006
From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (JWColby)
Date: Wed, 22 Nov 2006 11:41:15 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Stored Procedure not producing results
In-Reply-To: <20061122151418.26001.qmail@web88206.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <003101c70e55$0787ae50$647aa8c0@m6805>

I didn't miss your point, perhaps you missed mine.  

IF you need to know that, or are ever going to need that data, so be it and
use that methodology.  

For my purposes I have no use for the doctor's past addresses.  I do have a
use for every bit of his diagnosis data.  Thus "apply it to the whole
database" makes no sense to me. I really don't care where Sarajevo used to
be, I only care about getting my payments to the right place, so I need to
know where it is today.  If I want to know where Sarajevo used to be I will
look it up on old maps.  Where was it before it got in your database?  You
don't know, and you will have to look it up on old maps as well.

You're point is nothing ever changes anywhere in the database.  

My point is that is useless and clumsy in most cases.  Nothing ever changes
in THIS PARTICULAR TABLE(S) is extremely valuable and worth doing.

John W. Colby
Colby Consulting
www.ColbyConsulting.com

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of artful at rogers.com
Sent: Wednesday, November 22, 2006 10:14 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Stored Procedure not producing results

It seems that you missed the point, JWC. In a PITA setup, nothing is ever
destroyed or overwritten. Thus I can roll back the database (metaphorically)
and discover that on January 11, 2004 Dr. JWC had his office at 123 Main
Street, but on February 1st of the same year, he moved his offices to 234
Side Street. On the former date, Dr. JWC had x clients, and on the latter
date he had y clients.

That is the whole point of PITA.

You do not apply the concept to some tables and not others, in general. The
distinction lies on QCDs (quickly changing dimensions) versus SCDs (slowly
changing dimensions). To be safe, you apply the "do not destroy anything" to
all tables in the database. For example, Yugloslavia and the former USSR
became several countries recently. But we need to be able to look up JWC as
of September, 1990 and see the data as it existed then. At that time,
Sarajevo was in Yugoslavia. Now it is not. I still need to preserve your
1990 address.

Arthur

----- Original Message ----
From: JWColby <jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com>
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Wednesday, November 22, 2006 9:49:02 AM
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Stored Procedure not producing results

Yes, but there has to be a limit somewhere.  Suppose the physician moved.
Do I care what his old address was.  It is the same physician.  Suppose he
gets a new phone number, fax number, etc.  I can see where in some cases you
would want to preserve every piece of data in particular tables, but in
EVERY table?

And in your "family doctor" example, why not simply create a doctor table,
then a FamilyDoctor table that relates family to doctor.  The FamilyDoctor
table has a begin / end date.  New doctor, new entry in the FamilyDoctor
table.  The old FamilyDoctor entry remains and provides the history of who
the family doctor was at any given date.  The m-m FamilyDoctor table is just
two pointers (family and doctor) and a begin / end date.  MUCH simpler than
preserving the entire doctor record whenever any tiny piece of that doctor
record changed, not to mention updating a pointer to that doctor record in
every family's record when some trivial piece of doctor info changes.

Again, I am not arguing with the concept, simply the scope of application of
the concept.

So IF you agree that you limit the scope to specific tables, how do you
determine and automatically apply the concept to specific tables, and not to
others?

John W. Colby
Colby Consulting
www.ColbyConsulting.com

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of artful at rogers.com
Sent: Wednesday, November 22, 2006 9:03 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Stored Procedure not producing results

I have no way to verify whether you mused on this subject or not, but since
you asked, I will provide a thumbnail sketch:

0. You could do it with triggers, but that would not be my first choice.
1. every table will contain two columns called BeginDate and EndDate.
2. any inserted row will have a NOT NULL value in BeginDate, not necessarily
equivalent to today (otherwise you couldn't insert a row that takes effect
on January 1, 2007).
3. any row  without an EndDate is assumed to be effective now.
4. any update to an existing row copies its data to a new row, fills in the
EndDate column on the existing row with GetDate(), and supplies GetDate() as
the BeginDate on the new row.
5. Any "deleted" row is not actually deleted. Rather, it is preserved, but
its EndDate column is updpated to GetDate().

That's a quick thumbnail sketch of PITA. I may have left out a quirk or two
in the sketch, but that's the basic idea. Nothing is destroyed. Everything
is kept, and its time-span is demarcated by its BeginDate and EndDate
columns. 

Taking a practical example, I just switched doctors yesterday. This involves
several operations.

1. The "family physician" has changed, but do not destroy the previous data.
Therefore insert a new row whose BeginDate is yesterday, and update the
previous row, changing its EndDate to yesterday.
2. Agree that all previous medical data concerning me shall be forwarded to
the new physician. (Called Consent, in the medical lingo.) 3. Step two can
be further refined, as in "release data about conditions x, y and z, but not
t, u and v" to my new physician.

At the end of the day, for various important reasons, not the least of which
is litigation, we must be able to determine the state of your particular
record(s) in the database as of January 1, 2004. Who was your physician?
What rights did she have to your prior data? What tests were performed upon
you, and on what dates, and with what results and with what follow-ups?

I chose this example a) because I have been there and written that, and b)
because it illustrates the problem vividly. We could easily substitute
lawyers for the physicians, or dentists, or any professional, including
ourselves, software developers. Consider a project as a metaphorical person
in the above. In 2001, the practitioner list comprised Fuller, Colby and
Salakhetdinov. In 2002, it comprised Hindman, Carbonell, Colby and Lawrence.
In the medical schema, one could easily have several practitioners, one for
heart, one for ENT (ear, nose, throat), one for gynecology, etc. And the
same holds true for a software client -- she employs an accounting expert, a
CRM expert, an Excel macro wizard, an Access expert, and so on.

That was a bit of a sidetrack, but remains on point, I think. The point
being, "We need to be able to roll back the database to any given PIT
without actually having to do a restore. We just want to specify a date (Jan
1 2004) and without changing a single line of code, run the reports.

That is the point of PITA.

It must be designed in from the outset. Not every app needs PITA, but it
becomes very difficult to add it after the fact. As anyone who has followed
my threads must know by now, I tend toward extremism. That said, I suggest
that you design PITA in, just in case it later becomes needed. In that case,
you look like a genius. And if the requirement never emerges, you wasted
some very cheap disk space. 

Arthur
 ----- Original Message ----
From: Shamil Salakhetdinov <shamil at users.mns.ru>
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Wednesday, November 22, 2006 8:27:43 AM
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Stored Procedure not producing results


<<<
So. Today's job is to dig out that PITA article and pitch it to somebody.
>>>
Arthur,

I must say I did "muse" on similar to your PITA ("Point in Time
Architecture") subject somewhere in year 1992 or 1993, that time in FIDO
groups and in Russian...

Am I wrong - wasn't that feature of versioned database data somehow limited
but built-in way implemented in Borland Interbase?

And in MS SQL Server it can be relatively inexpensive way
implemented/simulated using triggers - correct?

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From gwsmith at iowatelecom.net  Wed Nov 22 10:39:52 2006
From: gwsmith at iowatelecom.net (gwsmith at iowatelecom.net)
Date: Wed, 22 Nov 2006 10:39:52 -0600 (CST)
Subject: [AccessD]  XML ... again ... or still
In-Reply-To: <003b01c70e45$6c84e710$6401a8c0@nant>
References: <20061122140314.81269.qmail@web88214.mail.re2.yahoo.com>   
	<003b01c70e45$6c84e710$6401a8c0@nant>
Message-ID: <61180.65.118.249.214.1164213592.squirrel@webmail.iowatelecom.net>

Shamil:

I hate to appear dumber than a post, but I may even be past that.  That
link you gave me the other day:

(http://smsconsulting.spb.ru/shamil_s/topics/xmltests.htm)

which has several examples of code to use for importing XML...I can't get
any of it to work.  I'm sure this is probably the right way to go, but,
without being able to test it, I can't be sure.

I'm certain it's something I'm doing (or not) that is the issue, but I'm
clueless as to what it could be.  Could you please explain how to use
this?  Of course, as always, ANYONE can jump in... :)

I'm sure it falls under the "Cant see the forest for the trees" issue, but
any help would be greatly appreciated!!

Thanks!

Greg Smith
gwsmith at iowatelecom.net






From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com  Wed Nov 22 10:46:33 2006
From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (JWColby)
Date: Wed, 22 Nov 2006 11:46:33 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Temporal database (was: Stored Procedurenot	producing
	results)
In-Reply-To: <s5647ec1.089@cactus.dk>
Message-ID: <003201c70e55$c53655f0$647aa8c0@m6805>

LOL, you may or may not lose me.  I can see applications where this would be
invaluable.  I just do not see where an entire database from state tables to
color tables needs to be temporal.

John W. Colby
Colby Consulting
www.ColbyConsulting.com

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gustav Brock
Sent: Wednesday, November 22, 2006 10:46 AM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Temporal database (was: Stored Procedurenot producing
results)

Hi Arthur and Shamil

"We need to be able to roll back the database to any given PIT without
actually having to do a restore. We just want to specify a date (Jan 1
2004) and without changing a single line of code, run the reports."
>>> 
> You mean "virtual rollback" of course? IOW a "point in time aware"
view/SP/UDF?

Note that to implement a temporal database in full (I guess we will loose JC
here), not two but _four_ time fields must exist:

<quote>

In the literature, two time lines of interest have been mentioned,
transaction time and valid time. The valid time line represents when a fact
is valid in modelled world (i.e. when it was believed) and the transaction
time line represents when a transaction was performed. A bitemporal database
is a combination of valid time and transaction time databases where these
two time lines are considered to be orthogonal.
(Snodgrass & Ahn 1986)

</quote>

Again, accounting can display the beauty of this: Consider writing an
invoice; you do this, of course, "today", while the invoice date may be
either past, present, or future. Later, selecting on transaction dates will
reveal wether this invoice was created or not; selecting on valid date will
show wether this invoice was issued or not.

You may put it in another perspective: Transaction dates record by
themselves an audit trail which allows you to, at any time, to perform a
dynamic virtual rollback to any previous time, while the valid date will
show you the (approved) state of the data at that time. Specifically, this
allows you to correct previous recordings (say, a wrongly typed invoice
number of a supplier's invoice), or record a future change of a customer's
address and - until he moves - to issue invoices correctly addressed to his
present address.

/gustav

>>> artful at rogers.com 22-11-2006 15:10:35 >>>
My personal fave in this category is the Kimball Group. Specifically, for MS
SQL, I recommend "The Microsoft Data Warehouse Toolkit" by Joy Mundy and
Warren Thornthwaite. There is extensive discussion therein about SCDs
(slowly changing dimensions).

I will check out your sources, too.

A.

----- Original Message ----
From: Gustav Brock <Gustav at cactus.dk>
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Sent: Wednesday, November 22, 2006 8:41:01 AM
Subject: [AccessD] Temporal database (was: Stored Procedure not producing
results)

Hi Arthur

I don't recall you have written about PITA here, but what you describe is
generally known as a temporal database.
This is well-known and has been dealt with by some great capacities in the
database world, Michael Boehlen, Christian Jensen, Richard Snodgrass and
Andreas Steiner.

http://www.cs.arizona.edu/people/rts/timecenter/timecenter.html 

A brief explanation and introduction can be found here:

http://www.timeconsult.com/TemporalData/TemporalData.html 

Note the link to TimeDB, a Java implementing of "A Bitemporal Relational
DBMS" for Oracle 10g

Also, look up my previous post(ings) on these:

http://databaseadvisors.com/pipermail/accessd/2005-May/034503.html
http://databaseadvisors.com/pipermail/accessd/2005-May/034455.html 

This is a very exciting area. For some applications it won't even require
that much more data storage (accounting). 
A simplified approach is a write-only database (which means write and read
but neither delete nor update) which both Cach? and MySQL offers.

Now, wouldn't it be nice if only TSQL2 could be implemented in Access:

http://www.cs.arizona.edu/people/rts/tsql2.html 

/gustav
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From shamil at users.mns.ru  Wed Nov 22 11:27:34 2006
From: shamil at users.mns.ru (Shamil Salakhetdinov)
Date: Wed, 22 Nov 2006 20:27:34 +0300
Subject: [AccessD] Stored Procedure not producing results
In-Reply-To: <20061122151845.63792.qmail@web88209.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <003701c70e5b$7f70a510$6401a8c0@nant>

<<<
And I am "extremely" flattered that you noticed.
>>>
OK :)

<<<
and also trigger complexities (fire a trigger on instance X and have it do
something to instance Y which resides on another server in another city). It
can be done, but it is non-trivial.
>>>
Well, OLAP PITA database keeping data for only the current working day, week
or month can be always installed on the same server where its "parent" OLTP
database is installed.
Then replication can be used to replicate OLAP PITA database wherever it's
needed to be replicated => to the main OLAP database(s).

Will that work OK?


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-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of artful at rogers.com
Sent: Wednesday, November 22, 2006 6:19 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Stored Procedure not producing results

I agree with you on the usefulness of triggers, but there are problems
(surmountable). Consider a database (or collection of databases) whose size
grows by a TB per year. This is going to be a huge problem, literally.
Chances are that you won't be able to support the OLTP and OLAP instances on
a single server, unless you have a SAN and very fancy hardware. This is
going to cause RI problems (on MS-SQL at least; Oracle has table-spaces and
can easily work around this issue), and also trigger complexities (fire a
trigger on instance X and have it do something to instance Y which resides
on another server in another city). It can be done, but it is non-trivial.

And I am "extremely" flattered that you noticed. 

----- Original Message ----
From: Shamil Salakhetdinov <shamil at users.mns.ru>
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Wednesday, November 22, 2006 9:49:33 AM
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Stored Procedure not producing results

<<<
As anyone who has followed my threads must
know by now, I tend toward extremism.
>>>
That's so true Arthur! :) (Just kidding of course)

<<<
That said, I suggest that you design PITA in,
just in case it later becomes needed.
>>>
Arthur, these days I'm "biased" toward simple designs and MS SQL triggers
and a parallel OLAP database could be such relatively simple extendable
(plugged/unplugged anytime) solution. I mean I'd just use such triggers to
"replicate" deleted/inserted/updated rows into parallel OLAP database with
tables' structure as you describe i.e. with BeginData and EndDate added.
(And I'd do that only for the tables' customers wanted to have your PITA
enabled with.)
Then all PITA enabled forms/reports/SPs/... will use this parallel OLAP
database together with actual OLTP one if needed...

Do I miss some more effective solutions of this practical task? As you wrote
harddisk memory is cheap these days - I agree with that of course - that's
also a point, which makes rather simple solution with "parallel versioned
data OLAP database" inexpensive...

<<<
"We need to be able to roll back the database to any given PIT without
actually having to do a restore. We just want to specify a date (Jan 1 2004)
and without changing a single line of code, run the reports.
>>> 
You mean "virtual rollback" of course? IOW a "point in time aware"
view/SP/UDF?
 
--
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-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of artful at rogers.com
Sent: Wednesday, November 22, 2006 5:03 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Stored Procedure not producing results

I have no way to verify whether you mused on this subject or not, but since
you asked, I will provide a thumbnail sketch:

0. You could do it with triggers, but that would not be my first choice.
1. every table will contain two columns called BeginDate and EndDate.
2. any inserted row will have a NOT NULL value in BeginDate, not necessarily
equivalent to today (otherwise you couldn't insert a row that takes effect
on January 1, 2007).
3. any row  without an EndDate is assumed to be effective now.
4. any update to an existing row copies its data to a new row, fills in the
EndDate column on the existing row with GetDate(), and supplies GetDate() as
the BeginDate on the new row.
5. Any "deleted" row is not actually deleted. Rather, it is preserved, but
its EndDate column is updpated to GetDate().

That's a quick thumbnail sketch of PITA. I may have left out a quirk or two
in the sketch, but that's the basic idea. Nothing is destroyed. Everything
is kept, and its time-span is demarcated by its BeginDate and EndDate
columns. 

Taking a practical example, I just switched doctors yesterday. This involves
several operations.

1. The "family physician" has changed, but do not destroy the previous data.
Therefore insert a new row whose BeginDate is yesterday, and update the
previous row, changing its EndDate to yesterday.
2. Agree that all previous medical data concerning me shall be forwarded to
the new physician. (Called Consent, in the medical lingo.)
3. Step two can be further refined, as in "release data about conditions x,
y and z, but not t, u and v" to my new physician.

At the end of the day, for various important reasons, not the least of which
is litigation, we must be able to determine the state of your particular
record(s) in the database as of January 1, 2004. Who was your physician?
What rights did she have to your prior data? What tests were performed upon
you, and on what dates, and with what results and with what follow-ups?

I chose this example a) because I have been there and written that, and b)
because it illustrates the problem vividly. We could easily substitute
lawyers for the physicians, or dentists, or any professional, including
ourselves, software developers. Consider a project as a metaphorical person
in the above. In 2001, the practitioner list comprised Fuller, Colby and
Salakhetdinov. In 2002, it comprised Hindman, Carbonell, Colby and Lawrence.
In the medical schema, one could easily have several practitioners, one for
heart, one for ENT (ear, nose, throat), one for gynecology, etc. And the
same holds true for a software client -- she employs an accounting expert, a
CRM expert, an Excel macro wizard, an Access expert, and so on.

That was a bit of a sidetrack, but remains on point, I think. The point
being, "We need to be able to roll back the database to any given PIT
without actually having to do a restore. We just want to specify a date (Jan
1 2004) and without changing a single line of code, run the reports.

That is the point of PITA.

It must be designed in from the outset. Not every app needs PITA, but it
becomes very difficult to add it after the fact. As anyone who has followed
my threads must know by now, I tend toward extremism. That said, I suggest
that you design PITA in, just in case it later becomes needed. In that case,
you look like a genius. And if the requirement never emerges, you wasted
some very cheap disk space. 

Arthur

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From dwaters at usinternet.com  Wed Nov 22 11:34:02 2006
From: dwaters at usinternet.com (Dan Waters)
Date: Wed, 22 Nov 2006 11:34:02 -0600
Subject: [AccessD] Can I mouse over a continuous form's control and
	display the value?
In-Reply-To: <32705631.1164214321883.JavaMail.root@sniper55>
Message-ID: <001501c70e5c$680cfc10$0200a8c0@danwaters>

Would it work to programmatically populate the controltip text property at
the same time the field is populated?  Perhaps the calculation could be done
in code subsequent to an event.  I think the controltip text property is
limited to 255 characters.

Dan Waters

-----Original Message-----
Subject: [AccessD] Can I mouse over a continuous form's control and
displaythe value?

I have a control on a continuous form. It does not show all the text because
of size constraints. I want to mouse over this control and have the value of
that control for that record to show in the ControlTextTip property. 

The control is also a calculated field. 

Is there any thing any one can think of for me to be able to show that value
when I mouse over it?

I do not want to select the control either because there is code that will
fire in the On Click event.
Thanks.




From artful at rogers.com  Wed Nov 22 11:37:08 2006
From: artful at rogers.com (artful at rogers.com)
Date: Wed, 22 Nov 2006 09:37:08 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [AccessD] Stored Procedure not producing results
Message-ID: <20061122173708.64444.qmail@web88205.mail.re2.yahoo.com>

In my recent project involving PITA, there were 8 live databases, each growing by an estimated 1 TB per year. To further complicate things, there was a firewall separating 3 of the databases from the other 5. There was not even a remote possibility that the OLAP db could reside on the same server as the OLTP part.

This in turn posed problems, since RI doesn't work across db boundaries (in MS-SQL). We got around this by duplicating some lookup tables -- not that I'm suggesting that this is the best solution, but merely the one that was selected. This caused some fancy trigger-footwork (inserts, updates, etc.) across db and server boundaries.

Arthur

----- Original Message ----
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To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Wednesday, November 22, 2006 12:27:34 PM
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Stored Procedure not producing results

<<<
And I am "extremely" flattered that you noticed.
>>>
OK :)

<<<
and also trigger complexities (fire a trigger on instance X and have it do
something to instance Y which resides on another server in another city). It
can be done, but it is non-trivial.
>>>
Well, OLAP PITA database keeping data for only the current working day, week
or month can be always installed on the same server where its "parent" OLTP
database is installed.
Then replication can be used to replicate OLAP PITA database wherever it's
needed to be replicated => to the main OLAP database(s).

Will that work OK?


--
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-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of artful at rogers.com
Sent: Wednesday, November 22, 2006 6:19 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Stored Procedure not producing results

I agree with you on the usefulness of triggers, but there are problems
(surmountable). Consider a database (or collection of databases) whose size
grows by a TB per year. This is going to be a huge problem, literally.
Chances are that you won't be able to support the OLTP and OLAP instances on
a single server, unless you have a SAN and very fancy hardware. This is
going to cause RI problems (on MS-SQL at least; Oracle has table-spaces and
can easily work around this issue), and also trigger complexities (fire a
trigger on instance X and have it do something to instance Y which resides
on another server in another city). It can be done, but it is non-trivial.

And I am "extremely" flattered that you noticed. 

----- Original Message ----
From: Shamil Salakhetdinov <shamil at users.mns.ru>
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Wednesday, November 22, 2006 9:49:33 AM
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Stored Procedure not producing results

<<<
As anyone who has followed my threads must
know by now, I tend toward extremism.
>>>
That's so true Arthur! :) (Just kidding of course)

<<<
That said, I suggest that you design PITA in,
just in case it later becomes needed.
>>>
Arthur, these days I'm "biased" toward simple designs and MS SQL triggers
and a parallel OLAP database could be such relatively simple extendable
(plugged/unplugged anytime) solution. I mean I'd just use such triggers to
"replicate" deleted/inserted/updated rows into parallel OLAP database with
tables' structure as you describe i.e. with BeginData and EndDate added.
(And I'd do that only for the tables' customers wanted to have your PITA
enabled with.)
Then all PITA enabled forms/reports/SPs/... will use this parallel OLAP
database together with actual OLTP one if needed...

Do I miss some more effective solutions of this practical task? As you wrote
harddisk memory is cheap these days - I agree with that of course - that's
also a point, which makes rather simple solution with "parallel versioned
data OLAP database" inexpensive...

<<<
"We need to be able to roll back the database to any given PIT without
actually having to do a restore. We just want to specify a date (Jan 1 2004)
and without changing a single line of code, run the reports.
>>> 
You mean "virtual rollback" of course? IOW a "point in time aware"
view/SP/UDF?
 
--
Shamil
 
-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of artful at rogers.com
Sent: Wednesday, November 22, 2006 5:03 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Stored Procedure not producing results

I have no way to verify whether you mused on this subject or not, but since
you asked, I will provide a thumbnail sketch:

0. You could do it with triggers, but that would not be my first choice.
1. every table will contain two columns called BeginDate and EndDate.
2. any inserted row will have a NOT NULL value in BeginDate, not necessarily
equivalent to today (otherwise you couldn't insert a row that takes effect
on January 1, 2007).
3. any row  without an EndDate is assumed to be effective now.
4. any update to an existing row copies its data to a new row, fills in the
EndDate column on the existing row with GetDate(), and supplies GetDate() as
the BeginDate on the new row.
5. Any "deleted" row is not actually deleted. Rather, it is preserved, but
its EndDate column is updpated to GetDate().

That's a quick thumbnail sketch of PITA. I may have left out a quirk or two
in the sketch, but that's the basic idea. Nothing is destroyed. Everything
is kept, and its time-span is demarcated by its BeginDate and EndDate
columns. 

Taking a practical example, I just switched doctors yesterday. This involves
several operations.

1. The "family physician" has changed, but do not destroy the previous data.
Therefore insert a new row whose BeginDate is yesterday, and update the
previous row, changing its EndDate to yesterday.
2. Agree that all previous medical data concerning me shall be forwarded to
the new physician. (Called Consent, in the medical lingo.)
3. Step two can be further refined, as in "release data about conditions x,
y and z, but not t, u and v" to my new physician.

At the end of the day, for various important reasons, not the least of which
is litigation, we must be able to determine the state of your particular
record(s) in the database as of January 1, 2004. Who was your physician?
What rights did she have to your prior data? What tests were performed upon
you, and on what dates, and with what results and with what follow-ups?

I chose this example a) because I have been there and written that, and b)
because it illustrates the problem vividly. We could easily substitute
lawyers for the physicians, or dentists, or any professional, including
ourselves, software developers. Consider a project as a metaphorical person
in the above. In 2001, the practitioner list comprised Fuller, Colby and
Salakhetdinov. In 2002, it comprised Hindman, Carbonell, Colby and Lawrence.
In the medical schema, one could easily have several practitioners, one for
heart, one for ENT (ear, nose, throat), one for gynecology, etc. And the
same holds true for a software client -- she employs an accounting expert, a
CRM expert, an Excel macro wizard, an Access expert, and so on.

That was a bit of a sidetrack, but remains on point, I think. The point
being, "We need to be able to roll back the database to any given PIT
without actually having to do a restore. We just want to specify a date (Jan
1 2004) and without changing a single line of code, run the reports.

That is the point of PITA.

It must be designed in from the outset. Not every app needs PITA, but it
becomes very difficult to add it after the fact. As anyone who has followed
my threads must know by now, I tend toward extremism. That said, I suggest
that you design PITA in, just in case it later becomes needed. In that case,
you look like a genius. And if the requirement never emerges, you wasted
some very cheap disk space. 

Arthur

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From john at winhaven.net  Wed Nov 22 11:52:36 2006
From: john at winhaven.net (John Bartow)
Date: Wed, 22 Nov 2006 11:52:36 -0600
Subject: [AccessD] Can I mouse over a continuous form's control
	anddisplay the value?
In-Reply-To: <001501c70e5c$680cfc10$0200a8c0@danwaters>
Message-ID: <200611221752.kAMHqdq23549@databaseadvisors.com>

I think the issue here is how to get the focus on the correct record so that
the mouse over event doesn't display the selected record's text in the
ControlTipText display. I think I know what you're after and I don't have an
answer for you. I've tried in the past but have quickly given up as the
mouse over event fires so frequently that it becomes disturbing. I've gone
to including an icon with the magnifying glass which simply opens a zoom box
form to display the entire contents of the field.

Best of luck to you and please post back if you do find a suitable solution!

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Dan Waters
Sent: Wednesday, November 22, 2006 11:34 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Can I mouse over a continuous form's control
anddisplay the value?

Would it work to programmatically populate the controltip text property at
the same time the field is populated?  Perhaps the calculation could be done
in code subsequent to an event.  I think the controltip text property is
limited to 255 characters.

Dan Waters

-----Original Message-----
Subject: [AccessD] Can I mouse over a continuous form's control and
displaythe value?

I have a control on a continuous form. It does not show all the text because
of size constraints. I want to mouse over this control and have the value of
that control for that record to show in the ControlTextTip property. 

The control is also a calculated field. 

Is there any thing any one can think of for me to be able to show that value
when I mouse over it?

I do not want to select the control either because there is code that will
fire in the On Click event.
Thanks.


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From newsgrps at dalyn.co.nz  Wed Nov 22 11:53:49 2006
From: newsgrps at dalyn.co.nz (David Emerson)
Date: Thu, 23 Nov 2006 06:53:49 +1300
Subject: [AccessD] Stored Procedure not producing results
In-Reply-To: <0J9400G9ARTCVFL2@l-daemon>
References: <20061122011633.TNVW20709.fep02.xtra.co.nz@Dalyn.dalyn.co.nz>
	<0J9400G9ARTCVFL2@l-daemon>
Message-ID: <20061122180006.CUYN20709.fep02.xtra.co.nz@Dalyn.dalyn.co.nz>

Jim,

Thanks for the info - both items to consider for future development.

However, my issue is no speed (my database with 4 times the amount of 
data runs in less than 2 seconds).  It seems to be either data in the 
smaller one, or a change in structure.

David

At 23/11/2006, you wrote:
>Hi David:
>
>Just a further comment after conferring with a friend; it was noted that
>each one of the statements, that were plused together require a complete
>scan of their respective tables before they can be added.
>
>The overhead must be immense. Try using the Rollup or Cube statements, which
>are highly optimized and should give you a decent speed increase
>(http://databases.about.com/od/sql/l/aacuberollup.htm)
>
>It was also suggested that, if you have control over the database tables
>designing and this report is needed on a regular bases, a single table
>consolidating the flag fields would improve performance.
>
>HTH
>Jim
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of David Emerson
>Sent: Tuesday, November 21, 2006 5:17 PM
>To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
>Subject: [AccessD] Stored Procedure not producing results
>
>SQL 2000
>
>I have the following query running in Query Analyser:
>
>SELECT dbo.tblCustStatement.StatementID, dbo.tblCustomers.TradingName
>as CustName, dbo.tblCustStatement.StatementDate,
>          dbo.tblCustomers.AccountNo, dbo.tblCustStatement.StatementNumber
>FROM dbo.tblCustomers INNER JOIN dbo.tblCustICP ON
>dbo.tblCustomers.CustomerID = dbo.tblCustICP.CustIDNo
>          INNER JOIN dbo.tblCustStatement ON
>dbo.tblCustomers.CustomerID = dbo.tblCustStatement.CustIDNo
>          LEFT OUTER JOIN dbo.vwAgedDebtorReceipt ON
>dbo.tblCustStatement.CustIDNo = dbo.vwAgedDebtorReceipt.CustIDNo
>          AND dbo.tblCustStatement.StatementNumber =
>dbo.vwAgedDebtorReceipt.StatNum
>          LEFT OUTER JOIN dbo.vwAgedDebtorReceiptInv ON
>dbo.tblCustStatement.CustIDNo = dbo.vwAgedDebtorReceiptInv.CustIDNo
>          AND dbo.tblCustStatement.StatementNumber =
>dbo.vwAgedDebtorReceiptInv.InvNum
>WHERE
>          -- Remming out this statement works (and removing the AND at
>the beginning of the next line)
>          (dbo.tblCustStatement.StatementDate >= '2006-11-01' And
>dbo.tblCustStatement.StatementDate <= '2006-11-30')
>          -- Remming out this statement works
>          AND (dbo.tblCustomers.AccStatus= 'Active')
>          AND (dbo.tblCustStatement.[CurrentMth]+
>dbo.tblCustStatement.[OneMonth]+
>dbo.tblCustStatement.[TwoMonths]+
>dbo.tblCustStatement.[ThreeMonths] +
>ISNULL(dbo.vwAgedDebtorReceipt.NetReceipts,0)
>+            ISNULL(dbo.vwAgedDebtorReceipt.GJCredit,0)+
>ISNULL(dbo.vwAgedDebtorReceiptInv.NetReceiptsInv,0)
>+               ISNULL(dbo.vwAgedDebtorReceiptInv.GJCreditInv,0) > 20)
>          AND (dbo.tblCustomers.PayArrange = 0)
>          AND (dbo.tblCustomers.NoOverdueNote = 0)
>          -- Remming out this statement works
>          AND (   CASE
>                          WHEN
>ISNUMERIC(LEFT(dbo.tblCustomers.CreditStatus,2)) = 0 THEN '00'
>                          ELSE LEFT(dbo.tblCustomers.CreditStatus,2)
>                  END < CAST(DAY(GETDATE()) AS varchar(2)))
>          AND (dbo.tblCustomers.CreditStatus NOT LIKE 'Last%' OR
>dbo.tblCustomers.CreditStatus IS NULL)
>          -- Remming out this statement works
>          AND (dbo.tblCustStatement.StatementNumber <> 1)
>ORDER BY CustName, dbo.tblCustomers.AccountNo,
>dbo.tblCustStatement.StatementDate
>
>When I remark out any 1 of the AND statements noted above in the
>WHERE clause the results come back in a couple of seconds.
>However, when I include all AND statement the query runs doesn't
>return any results (at least not within the first ten minutes!)
>
>There doesn't seem to be any pattern to the lines that can be remmed
>or combinations of remaining lines.  The only clue I have is that
>data from the database from two months ago works fine but there are
>750 more records in each table being filtered.
>
>Any suggestions as to how I can solve this - it seems to be a data
>issue but the various combinations of AND statements above doesn't make
>sense.
>
>
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From newsgrps at dalyn.co.nz  Wed Nov 22 11:56:55 2006
From: newsgrps at dalyn.co.nz (David Emerson)
Date: Thu, 23 Nov 2006 06:56:55 +1300
Subject: [AccessD] Stored Procedure not producing results
In-Reply-To: <20061122110827.11706.qmail@web88207.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
References: <20061122110827.11706.qmail@web88207.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <20061122180011.CUZP20709.fep02.xtra.co.nz@Dalyn.dalyn.co.nz>

I tried:

1) Running the query using dates from 2 months ago

2) Deleting all the data so that it was back to where it was two 
months ago and running the query using dates from 2 months ago.

Neither test worked.  Maybe it is a structure change.  I will try 
comparing tables to see if there is any differences.

David

At 23/11/2006, you wrote:
>If the structures haven't changed, then the data is the villain. But 
>you have a concrete clue to work from. Devise some scope that will 
>include only the data from two months ago and verify your assertion. 
>Then expand the scope to "two months ago plus a day" and run it 
>again. Repeat until failure.
>
>This assumes of course that the scope is expandable so easily. (A 
>good reason to have a "DateEntered" column in every table, which 
>defaults to GetDate()).
>
>----- Original Message ----
>From: David Emerson <newsgrps at dalyn.co.nz>
>To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving 
><accessd at databaseadvisors.com>; Access Developers discussion and 
>problem solving <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
>Sent: Tuesday, November 21, 2006 10:53:58 PM
>Subject: Re: [AccessD] Stored Procedure not producing results
>
>Worse - my database from two months ago works fine, but the latest
>version is the one that is causing the problem.  This may indicate a
>data problem perhaps?
>
>David
>
>
>
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From forefront at ig.com.br  Wed Nov 22 11:50:51 2006
From: forefront at ig.com.br (forefront)
Date: Wed, 22 Nov 2006 14:50:51 -0300
Subject: [AccessD] A2K - Disappearing menu and toolbar in Module Design
Message-ID: <20061122_175051_037672.forefront@ig.com.br>

Dear Mates! 
I have a really silly question for you: I have re-inatalled Office 2K with 
all features in disk and in all my databases, Module Design has no menu bar 
or toolbar. All other objects have them properly visible. 
Any help... Pleeeeeease  :) 
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From shamil at users.mns.ru  Wed Nov 22 12:30:40 2006
From: shamil at users.mns.ru (Shamil Salakhetdinov)
Date: Wed, 22 Nov 2006 21:30:40 +0300
Subject: [AccessD] Stored Procedure not producing results
In-Reply-To: <20061122173708.64444.qmail@web88205.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <000f01c70e64$50767f10$6401a8c0@nant>

<<<
This caused some fancy trigger-footwork (inserts, 
updates, etc.) across db and server boundaries.
>>>
So, you do use triggers?

<<<
To further complicate things, there was a firewall separating 3 of the
databases from the other 5.
>>>
OK.
How about, e.g., using Extended Stored Procedures called from triggers,
which write inserted/updated/deleted rows in text(bcp-like) or XML formats,
which are then queued by service MS Windows application  to Mail Server,
which then sends them to OLAP server(s), where they are processed?

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Sent: Wednesday, November 22, 2006 8:37 PM
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Subject: Re: [AccessD] Stored Procedure not producing results

In my recent project involving PITA, there were 8 live databases, each
growing by an estimated 1 TB per year. To further complicate things, there
was a firewall separating 3 of the databases from the other 5. There was not
even a remote possibility that the OLAP db could reside on the same server
as the OLTP part.

This in turn posed problems, since RI doesn't work across db boundaries (in
MS-SQL). We got around this by duplicating some lookup tables -- not that
I'm suggesting that this is the best solution, but merely the one that was
selected. This caused some fancy trigger-footwork (inserts, updates, etc.)
across db and server boundaries.

Arthur

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Sent: Wednesday, November 22, 2006 12:27:34 PM
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Stored Procedure not producing results

<<<
And I am "extremely" flattered that you noticed.
>>>
OK :)

<<<
and also trigger complexities (fire a trigger on instance X and have it do
something to instance Y which resides on another server in another city). It
can be done, but it is non-trivial.
>>>
Well, OLAP PITA database keeping data for only the current working day, week
or month can be always installed on the same server where its "parent" OLTP
database is installed.
Then replication can be used to replicate OLAP PITA database wherever it's
needed to be replicated => to the main OLAP database(s).

Will that work OK?


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Sent: Wednesday, November 22, 2006 6:19 PM
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Subject: Re: [AccessD] Stored Procedure not producing results

I agree with you on the usefulness of triggers, but there are problems
(surmountable). Consider a database (or collection of databases) whose size
grows by a TB per year. This is going to be a huge problem, literally.
Chances are that you won't be able to support the OLTP and OLAP instances on
a single server, unless you have a SAN and very fancy hardware. This is
going to cause RI problems (on MS-SQL at least; Oracle has table-spaces and
can easily work around this issue), and also trigger complexities (fire a
trigger on instance X and have it do something to instance Y which resides
on another server in another city). It can be done, but it is non-trivial.

And I am "extremely" flattered that you noticed. 

----- Original Message ----
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Sent: Wednesday, November 22, 2006 9:49:33 AM
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Stored Procedure not producing results

<<<
As anyone who has followed my threads must
know by now, I tend toward extremism.
>>>
That's so true Arthur! :) (Just kidding of course)

<<<
That said, I suggest that you design PITA in,
just in case it later becomes needed.
>>>
Arthur, these days I'm "biased" toward simple designs and MS SQL triggers
and a parallel OLAP database could be such relatively simple extendable
(plugged/unplugged anytime) solution. I mean I'd just use such triggers to
"replicate" deleted/inserted/updated rows into parallel OLAP database with
tables' structure as you describe i.e. with BeginData and EndDate added.
(And I'd do that only for the tables' customers wanted to have your PITA
enabled with.)
Then all PITA enabled forms/reports/SPs/... will use this parallel OLAP
database together with actual OLTP one if needed...

Do I miss some more effective solutions of this practical task? As you wrote
harddisk memory is cheap these days - I agree with that of course - that's
also a point, which makes rather simple solution with "parallel versioned
data OLAP database" inexpensive...

<<<
"We need to be able to roll back the database to any given PIT without
actually having to do a restore. We just want to specify a date (Jan 1 2004)
and without changing a single line of code, run the reports.
>>> 
You mean "virtual rollback" of course? IOW a "point in time aware"
view/SP/UDF?
 
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Sent: Wednesday, November 22, 2006 5:03 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Stored Procedure not producing results

I have no way to verify whether you mused on this subject or not, but since
you asked, I will provide a thumbnail sketch:

0. You could do it with triggers, but that would not be my first choice.
1. every table will contain two columns called BeginDate and EndDate.
2. any inserted row will have a NOT NULL value in BeginDate, not necessarily
equivalent to today (otherwise you couldn't insert a row that takes effect
on January 1, 2007).
3. any row  without an EndDate is assumed to be effective now.
4. any update to an existing row copies its data to a new row, fills in the
EndDate column on the existing row with GetDate(), and supplies GetDate() as
the BeginDate on the new row.
5. Any "deleted" row is not actually deleted. Rather, it is preserved, but
its EndDate column is updpated to GetDate().

That's a quick thumbnail sketch of PITA. I may have left out a quirk or two
in the sketch, but that's the basic idea. Nothing is destroyed. Everything
is kept, and its time-span is demarcated by its BeginDate and EndDate
columns. 

Taking a practical example, I just switched doctors yesterday. This involves
several operations.

1. The "family physician" has changed, but do not destroy the previous data.
Therefore insert a new row whose BeginDate is yesterday, and update the
previous row, changing its EndDate to yesterday.
2. Agree that all previous medical data concerning me shall be forwarded to
the new physician. (Called Consent, in the medical lingo.)
3. Step two can be further refined, as in "release data about conditions x,
y and z, but not t, u and v" to my new physician.

At the end of the day, for various important reasons, not the least of which
is litigation, we must be able to determine the state of your particular
record(s) in the database as of January 1, 2004. Who was your physician?
What rights did she have to your prior data? What tests were performed upon
you, and on what dates, and with what results and with what follow-ups?

I chose this example a) because I have been there and written that, and b)
because it illustrates the problem vividly. We could easily substitute
lawyers for the physicians, or dentists, or any professional, including
ourselves, software developers. Consider a project as a metaphorical person
in the above. In 2001, the practitioner list comprised Fuller, Colby and
Salakhetdinov. In 2002, it comprised Hindman, Carbonell, Colby and Lawrence.
In the medical schema, one could easily have several practitioners, one for
heart, one for ENT (ear, nose, throat), one for gynecology, etc. And the
same holds true for a software client -- she employs an accounting expert, a
CRM expert, an Excel macro wizard, an Access expert, and so on.

That was a bit of a sidetrack, but remains on point, I think. The point
being, "We need to be able to roll back the database to any given PIT
without actually having to do a restore. We just want to specify a date (Jan
1 2004) and without changing a single line of code, run the reports.

That is the point of PITA.

It must be designed in from the outset. Not every app needs PITA, but it
becomes very difficult to add it after the fact. As anyone who has followed
my threads must know by now, I tend toward extremism. That said, I suggest
that you design PITA in, just in case it later becomes needed. In that case,
you look like a genius. And if the requirement never emerges, you wasted
some very cheap disk space. 

Arthur

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From bill_Patten at earthlink.net  Wed Nov 22 12:35:35 2006
From: bill_Patten at earthlink.net (Bill Patten)
Date: Wed, 22 Nov 2006 10:35:35 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] A2K - Disappearing menu and toolbar in Module Design
References: <20061122_175051_037672.forefront@ig.com.br>
Message-ID: <007d01c70e65$004de860$0202fea9@BPCS>

I had a similar problem the other day with my main Access window having no 
menubar. I was able to double click on a front-end that has it's own 
menubar. I then right clicked on my menu and selected customize then went to 
properties, found the menubar selected it and click restore defaults or 
reset and it worked. If you have any tool or menu's in the module window you 
should be able to do the same thing. If no menu's then I have no idea.

HTH

Bill

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Subject: [AccessD] A2K - Disappearing menu and toolbar in Module Design


Dear Mates!
I have a really silly question for you: I have re-inatalled Office 2K with
all features in disk and in all my databases, Module Design has no menu bar
or toolbar. All other objects have them properly visible.
Any help... Pleeeeeease  :)
TIA,
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From artful at rogers.com  Wed Nov 22 13:16:54 2006
From: artful at rogers.com (artful at rogers.com)
Date: Wed, 22 Nov 2006 11:16:54 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [AccessD] Stored Procedure not producing results
Message-ID: <20061122191654.92594.qmail@web88204.mail.re2.yahoo.com>

If the data is the same, the only other possibility is a structure change.

A proviso, which I am unable to document with specific examples, but I have seen this before. Should any query SELECT * FROM SomeTables, then you modify the table(s) of interest, sometimes it gets derailed.

Arthur

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Sent: Wednesday, November 22, 2006 12:56:55 PM
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Stored Procedure not producing results

I tried:

1) Running the query using dates from 2 months ago

2) Deleting all the data so that it was back to where it was two 
months ago and running the query using dates from 2 months ago.

Neither test worked.  Maybe it is a structure change.  I will try 
comparing tables to see if there is any differences.

David

At 23/11/2006, you wrote:
>If the structures haven't changed, then the data is the villain. But 
>you have a concrete clue to work from. Devise some scope that will 
>include only the data from two months ago and verify your assertion. 
>Then expand the scope to "two months ago plus a day" and run it 
>again. Repeat until failure.
>
>This assumes of course that the scope is expandable so easily. (A 
>good reason to have a "DateEntered" column in every table, which 
>defaults to GetDate()).
>
>----- Original Message ----
>From: David Emerson <newsgrps at dalyn.co.nz>
>To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving 
><accessd at databaseadvisors.com>; Access Developers discussion and 
>problem solving <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
>Sent: Tuesday, November 21, 2006 10:53:58 PM
>Subject: Re: [AccessD] Stored Procedure not producing results
>
>Worse - my database from two months ago works fine, but the latest
>version is the one that is causing the problem.  This may indicate a
>data problem perhaps?
>
>David
>
>
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From markamatte at hotmail.com  Wed Nov 22 13:22:55 2006
From: markamatte at hotmail.com (Mark A Matte)
Date: Wed, 22 Nov 2006 19:22:55 +0000
Subject: [AccessD] Can I mouse over a continuous form's
	controlanddisplay the value?
Message-ID: <BAY127-F114D392BD6695EC1A9E709D2E30@phx.gbl>

I programmatically fill the controltiptext in one of my apps....and I just 
found an error in my thinking...this doesn't work as I intended on a 
Continuous Form.  The controltiptext will only be correct for the first 
record...unless you change with each mouse over...but as mentioned will fire 
at a disturbing rate.  I'm not sure what a good solution for this is???


Just my 2?,

Mark A. Matte


>From: "John Bartow" <john at winhaven.net>
>Reply-To: Access Developers discussion and problem 
>solving<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
>To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem 
>solving'"<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
>Subject: Re: [AccessD] Can I mouse over a continuous form's 
>controlanddisplay the value?
>Date: Wed, 22 Nov 2006 11:52:36 -0600
>
>I think the issue here is how to get the focus on the correct record so 
>that
>the mouse over event doesn't display the selected record's text in the
>ControlTipText display. I think I know what you're after and I don't have 
>an
>answer for you. I've tried in the past but have quickly given up as the
>mouse over event fires so frequently that it becomes disturbing. I've gone
>to including an icon with the magnifying glass which simply opens a zoom 
>box
>form to display the entire contents of the field.
>
>Best of luck to you and please post back if you do find a suitable 
>solution!
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Dan Waters
>Sent: Wednesday, November 22, 2006 11:34 AM
>To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
>Subject: Re: [AccessD] Can I mouse over a continuous form's control
>anddisplay the value?
>
>Would it work to programmatically populate the controltip text property at
>the same time the field is populated?  Perhaps the calculation could be 
>done
>in code subsequent to an event.  I think the controltip text property is
>limited to 255 characters.
>
>Dan Waters
>
>-----Original Message-----
>Subject: [AccessD] Can I mouse over a continuous form's control and
>displaythe value?
>
>I have a control on a continuous form. It does not show all the text 
>because
>of size constraints. I want to mouse over this control and have the value 
>of
>that control for that record to show in the ControlTextTip property.
>
>The control is also a calculated field.
>
>Is there any thing any one can think of for me to be able to show that 
>value
>when I mouse over it?
>
>I do not want to select the control either because there is code that will
>fire in the On Click event.
>Thanks.
>
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From shamil at users.mns.ru  Wed Nov 22 13:41:04 2006
From: shamil at users.mns.ru (Shamil Salakhetdinov)
Date: Wed, 22 Nov 2006 22:41:04 +0300
Subject: [AccessD] XML ... again ... or still
In-Reply-To: <61180.65.118.249.214.1164213592.squirrel@webmail.iowatelecom.net>
Message-ID: <004201c70e6e$25d18cf0$6401a8c0@nant>

Hello Greg,

I did send you sample database offline.

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Sent: Wednesday, November 22, 2006 7:40 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: [AccessD] XML ... again ... or still

Shamil:

I hate to appear dumber than a post, but I may even be past that.  That
link you gave me the other day:

(http://smsconsulting.spb.ru/shamil_s/topics/xmltests.htm)

which has several examples of code to use for importing XML...I can't get
any of it to work.  I'm sure this is probably the right way to go, but,
without being able to test it, I can't be sure.

I'm certain it's something I'm doing (or not) that is the issue, but I'm
clueless as to what it could be.  Could you please explain how to use
this?  Of course, as always, ANYONE can jump in... :)

I'm sure it falls under the "Cant see the forest for the trees" issue, but
any help would be greatly appreciated!!

Thanks!

Greg Smith
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From shamil at users.mns.ru  Wed Nov 22 13:57:06 2006
From: shamil at users.mns.ru (Shamil Salakhetdinov)
Date: Wed, 22 Nov 2006 22:57:06 +0300
Subject: [AccessD] OT: RE:  Hey Shamil
In-Reply-To: <4563A855.8070707@shaw.ca>
Message-ID: <004a01c70e70$64d846d0$6401a8c0@nant>

Thank you, Marty!

I will save this information and pass it to my kids...

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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of MartyConnelly
Sent: Wednesday, November 22, 2006 4:31 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] OT: RE: Hey Shamil

Here is one of interest, they usually try to attract foriegn students
with bursaries in their MA program. It attracts job offers from
External Affairs department and International Banking firms.

Norman Paterson School of International Affairs
Carleton University, Ottawa.
http://www.carleton.ca/npsia/index.html

I coughed when I saw the fees.  I had a roommate who went
through this program. She made it through by working part time
as a bank teller. It didn't interfere with her classes.
I also used to go skiing with Norman's granddaughter Ellen
Patterson who was also in the program at that time. The fees to her
were less than her allowance.

Some Candian Universities offer a CO-OP program
A split work term - university term where the student
gets work experience and enough pay to cover tuition.
Something to look for if tuition a problem.
Although a 4 year degree takes 5 years to complete.
Also you come out with two years work experience.
Microsoft grabs a lot of these guys at Waterloo for work terms.

http://www.cecs.uwaterloo.ca/students/prospective/

Waterloo is one of the top Math/Engineering schools in Canada.
Computer Science is part of the Mathematics Faculty.
Located 120 miles west of Toronto.
http://www.uwaterloo.ca/

Shamil Salakhetdinov wrote:

><<<
>Her brother is a student at the University you worked at in St Petersburg.
>  
>
>Hello Martin,
>
>My greetings to your student from St.Petersburg!
>
>My son is also a student of this local University where her brother is
>studying - it's a small World... :)
>
>BTW, my son and my daughter are looking for the possible ways to continue
in
>the future their professional higher education somewhere abroad - what are
>the best ways to do that:
>
>- assuming they both speak English rather fluently (my daughter also speaks
>French, German(studying) and some Italian(beginner level);
>
>- I do not expect to make big bucks in the near future to pay for their
>higher education abroad...
>
>I mean there could be some grants there and somebody here in this
discussion
>list may know about such grants and if my kids will be able to win such
>grants then they can go there...
>
>Thank you.
>
>--
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> 
>-----Original Message-----
>From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Martin Reid
>Sent: Tuesday, November 21, 2006 11:06 PM
>To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
>Subject: [AccessD] Hey Shamil
>
>Had a girl from your city on my course today.
> 
>Svetlana Svyatko
> 
>Her brother is a student at the University you worked at in St Petersburg.
> 
>Martin
> 
> 
>Martin WP Reid
>Training and Assessment Unit
>Riddle Hall
>Belfast
> 
>tel: 02890 974477
> 
> 
>
>  
>

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From shamil at users.mns.ru  Wed Nov 22 13:57:06 2006
From: shamil at users.mns.ru (Shamil Salakhetdinov)
Date: Wed, 22 Nov 2006 22:57:06 +0300
Subject: [AccessD] OT: RE:  Hey Shamil
In-Reply-To: <003c01c70dc7$8f48bbb0$0200a8c0@danwaters>
Message-ID: <004e01c70e70$6551e3a0$6401a8c0@nant>

Thank you for you information, Dan!

<<<
have you ever thought of contacting Microsoft
>>>
Yes, that could work one fine day, we will see...

<<<
Best of Luck!
>>>
Thank you!

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[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Dan Waters
Sent: Wednesday, November 22, 2006 2:49 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: Re: [AccessD] OT: RE: Hey Shamil

Hi Shamil!

This is the link to the University of Minnesota International Student
Admissions page.  It may be that the climate in Minneapolis is similar to
St. Petersburg.  http://www.isss.umn.edu/ 

In rummaging around the UM site, I found this link:
http://www.educationusa.state.gov/


Also, have you ever thought of contacting Microsoft to see if you could work
for them in some capacity?  It seems to me that with the skill you
definitely have, that they could find a way for you to make them some money
if they would just give you a little bit of theirs!  Really!  


Best of Luck!

Dan Waters


-----Original Message-----
Subject: [AccessD] OT: RE: Hey Shamil


<<<
Her brother is a student at the University you worked at in St Petersburg.
>>>
Hello Martin,

My greetings to your student from St.Petersburg!

My son is also a student of this local University where her brother is
studying - it's a small World... :)

BTW, my son and my daughter are looking for the possible ways to continue in
the future their professional higher education somewhere abroad - what are
the best ways to do that:

- assuming they both speak English rather fluently (my daughter also speaks
French, German(studying) and some Italian(beginner level);

- I do not expect to make big bucks in the near future to pay for their
higher education abroad...

I mean there could be some grants there and somebody here in this discussion
list may know about such grants and if my kids will be able to win such
grants then they can go there...

Thank you.

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-----Original Message-----
Subject: [AccessD] Hey Shamil

Had a girl from your city on my course today.
 
Svetlana Svyatko
 
Her brother is a student at the University you worked at in St Petersburg.
 
Martin
 
 
Martin WP Reid
Training and Assessment Unit
Riddle Hall
Belfast
 
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From martyconnelly at shaw.ca  Wed Nov 22 14:55:02 2006
From: martyconnelly at shaw.ca (MartyConnelly)
Date: Wed, 22 Nov 2006 12:55:02 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] OT: RE:  Hey Shamil
In-Reply-To: <004a01c70e70$64d846d0$6401a8c0@nant>
References: <004a01c70e70$64d846d0$6401a8c0@nant>
Message-ID: <4564B926.6020404@shaw.ca>

The real problem maybe International Fees if not a resident,
usually double the standard fee rate. This maybe waived at the
Universities discretion or covered by one of many bursaries
or scholarships. Grad school applications in North America
usually have a Jan 31 deadline and under grad May for the fall term.
There are ways around this but you will have to ask or grovel a bit;)
You would also have to check if visa allows part time student work
most do in Canada.

I know my kid brother who did two degrees in Law in England &
Scotland  and had to pay International fees even though he had a UK
passport but was a Canadian resident. Well my father coughed up
the money. There was an advantage Law in the UK is an under grad
degree unlike North America where it is a grad degree requiring
7 years (4 under grad 3 grad) . Articling for the bar in Canada
presented a problem as only one province Alberta recognized
UK law degrees.


Shamil Salakhetdinov wrote:

>Thank you, Marty!
>
>I will save this information and pass it to my kids...
>
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> 
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of MartyConnelly
>Sent: Wednesday, November 22, 2006 4:31 AM
>To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
>Subject: Re: [AccessD] OT: RE: Hey Shamil
>
>Here is one of interest, they usually try to attract foriegn students
>with bursaries in their MA program. It attracts job offers from
>External Affairs department and International Banking firms.
>
>Norman Paterson School of International Affairs
>Carleton University, Ottawa.
>http://www.carleton.ca/npsia/index.html
>
>I coughed when I saw the fees.  I had a roommate who went
>through this program. She made it through by working part time
>as a bank teller. It didn't interfere with her classes.
>I also used to go skiing with Norman's granddaughter Ellen
>Patterson who was also in the program at that time. The fees to her
>were less than her allowance.
>
>Some Candian Universities offer a CO-OP program
>A split work term - university term where the student
>gets work experience and enough pay to cover tuition.
>Something to look for if tuition a problem.
>Although a 4 year degree takes 5 years to complete.
>Also you come out with two years work experience.
>Microsoft grabs a lot of these guys at Waterloo for work terms.
>
>http://www.cecs.uwaterloo.ca/students/prospective/
>
>Waterloo is one of the top Math/Engineering schools in Canada.
>Computer Science is part of the Mathematics Faculty.
>Located 120 miles west of Toronto.
>http://www.uwaterloo.ca/
>
>Shamil Salakhetdinov wrote:
>
>  
>
>><<<
>>Her brother is a student at the University you worked at in St Petersburg.
>> 
>>
>>Hello Martin,
>>
>>My greetings to your student from St.Petersburg!
>>
>>My son is also a student of this local University where her brother is
>>studying - it's a small World... :)
>>
>>BTW, my son and my daughter are looking for the possible ways to continue
>>    
>>
>in
>  
>
>>the future their professional higher education somewhere abroad - what are
>>the best ways to do that:
>>
>>- assuming they both speak English rather fluently (my daughter also speaks
>>French, German(studying) and some Italian(beginner level);
>>
>>- I do not expect to make big bucks in the near future to pay for their
>>higher education abroad...
>>
>>I mean there could be some grants there and somebody here in this
>>    
>>
>discussion
>  
>
>>list may know about such grants and if my kids will be able to win such
>>grants then they can go there...
>>
>>Thank you.
>>
>>--
>>Shamil
>>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>>[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Martin Reid
>>Sent: Tuesday, November 21, 2006 11:06 PM
>>To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
>>Subject: [AccessD] Hey Shamil
>>
>>Had a girl from your city on my course today.
>>
>>Svetlana Svyatko
>>
>>Her brother is a student at the University you worked at in St Petersburg.
>>
>>Martin
>>
>>
>>Martin WP Reid
>>Training and Assessment Unit
>>Riddle Hall
>>Belfast
>>
>>tel: 02890 974477
>>
>>
>>
>> 
>>
>>    
>>
>
>  
>

-- 
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Victoria, B.C.
Canada



From prodevmg at yahoo.com  Wed Nov 22 15:33:22 2006
From: prodevmg at yahoo.com (Lonnie Johnson)
Date: Wed, 22 Nov 2006 13:33:22 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [AccessD] Can I mouse over a continuous form's
	controlanddisplay the value?
Message-ID: <20061122213322.65384.qmail@web33112.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Thanks guys. This is one of the best forums that I have queried for answers to my problems.

It seems to work on a field that is bound to a table if I load the value of the field in the mouse over event into the ControlTipText.

Have not found a solution for a calculated field. Actually it is an expression 

(IIf([DoneFlag] = True,[Task])

I will keep trying. I may have to move my OnClick code to the DoubleClick event and use the OnClick to through the value in a label at the top of the form or something. Thanks again.
 








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----- Original Message ----
From: Mark A Matte <markamatte at hotmail.com>
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Sent: Wednesday, November 22, 2006 1:22:55 PM
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Can I mouse over a continuous form's controlanddisplay the value?


I programmatically fill the controltiptext in one of my apps....and I just 
found an error in my thinking...this doesn't work as I intended on a 
Continuous Form.  The controltiptext will only be correct for the first 
record...unless you change with each mouse over...but as mentioned will fire 
at a disturbing rate.  I'm not sure what a good solution for this is???


Just my 2?,

Mark A. Matte


>From: "John Bartow" <john at winhaven.net>
>Reply-To: Access Developers discussion and problem 
>solving<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
>To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem 
>solving'"<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
>Subject: Re: [AccessD] Can I mouse over a continuous form's 
>controlanddisplay the value?
>Date: Wed, 22 Nov 2006 11:52:36 -0600
>
>I think the issue here is how to get the focus on the correct record so 
>that
>the mouse over event doesn't display the selected record's text in the
>ControlTipText display. I think I know what you're after and I don't have 
>an
>answer for you. I've tried in the past but have quickly given up as the
>mouse over event fires so frequently that it becomes disturbing. I've gone
>to including an icon with the magnifying glass which simply opens a zoom 
>box
>form to display the entire contents of the field.
>
>Best of luck to you and please post back if you do find a suitable 
>solution!
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Dan Waters
>Sent: Wednesday, November 22, 2006 11:34 AM
>To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
>Subject: Re: [AccessD] Can I mouse over a continuous form's control
>anddisplay the value?
>
>Would it work to programmatically populate the controltip text property at
>the same time the field is populated?  Perhaps the calculation could be 
>done
>in code subsequent to an event.  I think the controltip text property is
>limited to 255 characters.
>
>Dan Waters
>
>-----Original Message-----
>Subject: [AccessD] Can I mouse over a continuous form's control and
>displaythe value?
>
>I have a control on a continuous form. It does not show all the text 
>because
>of size constraints. I want to mouse over this control and have the value 
>of
>that control for that record to show in the ControlTextTip property.
>
>The control is also a calculated field.
>
>Is there any thing any one can think of for me to be able to show that 
>value
>when I mouse over it?
>
>I do not want to select the control either because there is code that will
>fire in the On Click event.
>Thanks.
>
>
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From accessd at shaw.ca  Wed Nov 22 16:20:19 2006
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Wed, 22 Nov 2006 14:20:19 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] Stored Procedure not producing results
In-Reply-To: <000f01c70e64$50767f10$6401a8c0@nant>
Message-ID: <0J9500JLQKNDZJ00@l-daemon>

This sounds like an excellent idea... I would be delighted to see a system
designed using XML for export, with a SOAP wrapper using SMTP to
message/queue the data into an OLAP DB. I have heard it described, seem it
work but have not been able to get it successfully operating on my
servers....
  
Jim  

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Shamil
Salakhetdinov
Sent: Wednesday, November 22, 2006 10:31 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Stored Procedure not producing results

<<<
This caused some fancy trigger-footwork (inserts, 
updates, etc.) across db and server boundaries.
>>>
So, you do use triggers?

<<<
To further complicate things, there was a firewall separating 3 of the
databases from the other 5.
>>>
OK.
How about, e.g., using Extended Stored Procedures called from triggers,
which write inserted/updated/deleted rows in text(bcp-like) or XML formats,
which are then queued by service MS Windows application  to Mail Server,
which then sends them to OLAP server(s), where they are processed?

--
Shamil
 
-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of artful at rogers.com
Sent: Wednesday, November 22, 2006 8:37 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Stored Procedure not producing results

In my recent project involving PITA, there were 8 live databases, each
growing by an estimated 1 TB per year. To further complicate things, there
was a firewall separating 3 of the databases from the other 5. There was not
even a remote possibility that the OLAP db could reside on the same server
as the OLTP part.

This in turn posed problems, since RI doesn't work across db boundaries (in
MS-SQL). We got around this by duplicating some lookup tables -- not that
I'm suggesting that this is the best solution, but merely the one that was
selected. This caused some fancy trigger-footwork (inserts, updates, etc.)
across db and server boundaries.

Arthur

----- Original Message ----
From: Shamil Salakhetdinov <shamil at users.mns.ru>
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Wednesday, November 22, 2006 12:27:34 PM
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Stored Procedure not producing results

<<<
And I am "extremely" flattered that you noticed.
>>>
OK :)

<<<
and also trigger complexities (fire a trigger on instance X and have it do
something to instance Y which resides on another server in another city). It
can be done, but it is non-trivial.
>>>
Well, OLAP PITA database keeping data for only the current working day, week
or month can be always installed on the same server where its "parent" OLTP
database is installed.
Then replication can be used to replicate OLAP PITA database wherever it's
needed to be replicated => to the main OLAP database(s).

Will that work OK?


--
Shamil
 

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of artful at rogers.com
Sent: Wednesday, November 22, 2006 6:19 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Stored Procedure not producing results

I agree with you on the usefulness of triggers, but there are problems
(surmountable). Consider a database (or collection of databases) whose size
grows by a TB per year. This is going to be a huge problem, literally.
Chances are that you won't be able to support the OLTP and OLAP instances on
a single server, unless you have a SAN and very fancy hardware. This is
going to cause RI problems (on MS-SQL at least; Oracle has table-spaces and
can easily work around this issue), and also trigger complexities (fire a
trigger on instance X and have it do something to instance Y which resides
on another server in another city). It can be done, but it is non-trivial.

And I am "extremely" flattered that you noticed. 

----- Original Message ----
From: Shamil Salakhetdinov <shamil at users.mns.ru>
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Wednesday, November 22, 2006 9:49:33 AM
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Stored Procedure not producing results

<<<
As anyone who has followed my threads must
know by now, I tend toward extremism.
>>>
That's so true Arthur! :) (Just kidding of course)

<<<
That said, I suggest that you design PITA in,
just in case it later becomes needed.
>>>
Arthur, these days I'm "biased" toward simple designs and MS SQL triggers
and a parallel OLAP database could be such relatively simple extendable
(plugged/unplugged anytime) solution. I mean I'd just use such triggers to
"replicate" deleted/inserted/updated rows into parallel OLAP database with
tables' structure as you describe i.e. with BeginData and EndDate added.
(And I'd do that only for the tables' customers wanted to have your PITA
enabled with.)
Then all PITA enabled forms/reports/SPs/... will use this parallel OLAP
database together with actual OLTP one if needed...

Do I miss some more effective solutions of this practical task? As you wrote
harddisk memory is cheap these days - I agree with that of course - that's
also a point, which makes rather simple solution with "parallel versioned
data OLAP database" inexpensive...

<<<
"We need to be able to roll back the database to any given PIT without
actually having to do a restore. We just want to specify a date (Jan 1 2004)
and without changing a single line of code, run the reports.
>>> 
You mean "virtual rollback" of course? IOW a "point in time aware"
view/SP/UDF?
 
--
Shamil
 
-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of artful at rogers.com
Sent: Wednesday, November 22, 2006 5:03 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Stored Procedure not producing results

I have no way to verify whether you mused on this subject or not, but since
you asked, I will provide a thumbnail sketch:

0. You could do it with triggers, but that would not be my first choice.
1. every table will contain two columns called BeginDate and EndDate.
2. any inserted row will have a NOT NULL value in BeginDate, not necessarily
equivalent to today (otherwise you couldn't insert a row that takes effect
on January 1, 2007).
3. any row  without an EndDate is assumed to be effective now.
4. any update to an existing row copies its data to a new row, fills in the
EndDate column on the existing row with GetDate(), and supplies GetDate() as
the BeginDate on the new row.
5. Any "deleted" row is not actually deleted. Rather, it is preserved, but
its EndDate column is updpated to GetDate().

That's a quick thumbnail sketch of PITA. I may have left out a quirk or two
in the sketch, but that's the basic idea. Nothing is destroyed. Everything
is kept, and its time-span is demarcated by its BeginDate and EndDate
columns. 

Taking a practical example, I just switched doctors yesterday. This involves
several operations.

1. The "family physician" has changed, but do not destroy the previous data.
Therefore insert a new row whose BeginDate is yesterday, and update the
previous row, changing its EndDate to yesterday.
2. Agree that all previous medical data concerning me shall be forwarded to
the new physician. (Called Consent, in the medical lingo.)
3. Step two can be further refined, as in "release data about conditions x,
y and z, but not t, u and v" to my new physician.

At the end of the day, for various important reasons, not the least of which
is litigation, we must be able to determine the state of your particular
record(s) in the database as of January 1, 2004. Who was your physician?
What rights did she have to your prior data? What tests were performed upon
you, and on what dates, and with what results and with what follow-ups?

I chose this example a) because I have been there and written that, and b)
because it illustrates the problem vividly. We could easily substitute
lawyers for the physicians, or dentists, or any professional, including
ourselves, software developers. Consider a project as a metaphorical person
in the above. In 2001, the practitioner list comprised Fuller, Colby and
Salakhetdinov. In 2002, it comprised Hindman, Carbonell, Colby and Lawrence.
In the medical schema, one could easily have several practitioners, one for
heart, one for ENT (ear, nose, throat), one for gynecology, etc. And the
same holds true for a software client -- she employs an accounting expert, a
CRM expert, an Excel macro wizard, an Access expert, and so on.

That was a bit of a sidetrack, but remains on point, I think. The point
being, "We need to be able to roll back the database to any given PIT
without actually having to do a restore. We just want to specify a date (Jan
1 2004) and without changing a single line of code, run the reports.

That is the point of PITA.

It must be designed in from the outset. Not every app needs PITA, but it
becomes very difficult to add it after the fact. As anyone who has followed
my threads must know by now, I tend toward extremism. That said, I suggest
that you design PITA in, just in case it later becomes needed. In that case,
you look like a genius. And if the requirement never emerges, you wasted
some very cheap disk space. 

Arthur

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From shamil at users.mns.ru  Wed Nov 22 16:55:22 2006
From: shamil at users.mns.ru (Shamil Salakhetdinov)
Date: Thu, 23 Nov 2006 01:55:22 +0300
Subject: [AccessD] Stored Procedure not producing results
In-Reply-To: <0J9500JLQKNDZJ00@l-daemon>
Message-ID: <001f01c70e89$4aedb7f0$6401a8c0@nant>

Jim,

That should be a relatively simple project I think (if I'm not missing
something) - extended procedures are not even needed:

- triggers can store inserted/updates/deleted rows into "buffer" tables in
another database running on the same SQL Server;
- MS Windows service application can scan these "buffer" tables, say, every
minute and check are there any new rows or not;
- If there are new rows then this service can wrap them into SOAP envelopes
and SMTP to the OLAP db server computer...
- ... where they can be processed by another MS Windows service application
and inserted into OLAP database...

If you will use .NET Framework 2.0 then coding using VB.NET/C# promises to
be minimal...

--
Shamil
 

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim Lawrence
Sent: Thursday, November 23, 2006 1:20 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Stored Procedure not producing results

This sounds like an excellent idea... I would be delighted to see a system
designed using XML for export, with a SOAP wrapper using SMTP to
message/queue the data into an OLAP DB. I have heard it described, seem it
work but have not been able to get it successfully operating on my
servers....
  
Jim  

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Shamil
Salakhetdinov
Sent: Wednesday, November 22, 2006 10:31 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Stored Procedure not producing results

<<<
This caused some fancy trigger-footwork (inserts, 
updates, etc.) across db and server boundaries.
>>>
So, you do use triggers?

<<<
To further complicate things, there was a firewall separating 3 of the
databases from the other 5.
>>>
OK.
How about, e.g., using Extended Stored Procedures called from triggers,
which write inserted/updated/deleted rows in text(bcp-like) or XML formats,
which are then queued by service MS Windows application  to Mail Server,
which then sends them to OLAP server(s), where they are processed?

--
Shamil
 
-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of artful at rogers.com
Sent: Wednesday, November 22, 2006 8:37 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Stored Procedure not producing results

In my recent project involving PITA, there were 8 live databases, each
growing by an estimated 1 TB per year. To further complicate things, there
was a firewall separating 3 of the databases from the other 5. There was not
even a remote possibility that the OLAP db could reside on the same server
as the OLTP part.

This in turn posed problems, since RI doesn't work across db boundaries (in
MS-SQL). We got around this by duplicating some lookup tables -- not that
I'm suggesting that this is the best solution, but merely the one that was
selected. This caused some fancy trigger-footwork (inserts, updates, etc.)
across db and server boundaries.

Arthur

----- Original Message ----
From: Shamil Salakhetdinov <shamil at users.mns.ru>
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Wednesday, November 22, 2006 12:27:34 PM
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Stored Procedure not producing results

<<<
And I am "extremely" flattered that you noticed.
>>>
OK :)

<<<
and also trigger complexities (fire a trigger on instance X and have it do
something to instance Y which resides on another server in another city). It
can be done, but it is non-trivial.
>>>
Well, OLAP PITA database keeping data for only the current working day, week
or month can be always installed on the same server where its "parent" OLTP
database is installed.
Then replication can be used to replicate OLAP PITA database wherever it's
needed to be replicated => to the main OLAP database(s).

Will that work OK?


--
Shamil
 

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of artful at rogers.com
Sent: Wednesday, November 22, 2006 6:19 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Stored Procedure not producing results

I agree with you on the usefulness of triggers, but there are problems
(surmountable). Consider a database (or collection of databases) whose size
grows by a TB per year. This is going to be a huge problem, literally.
Chances are that you won't be able to support the OLTP and OLAP instances on
a single server, unless you have a SAN and very fancy hardware. This is
going to cause RI problems (on MS-SQL at least; Oracle has table-spaces and
can easily work around this issue), and also trigger complexities (fire a
trigger on instance X and have it do something to instance Y which resides
on another server in another city). It can be done, but it is non-trivial.

And I am "extremely" flattered that you noticed. 

----- Original Message ----
From: Shamil Salakhetdinov <shamil at users.mns.ru>
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Wednesday, November 22, 2006 9:49:33 AM
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Stored Procedure not producing results

<<<
As anyone who has followed my threads must
know by now, I tend toward extremism.
>>>
That's so true Arthur! :) (Just kidding of course)

<<<
That said, I suggest that you design PITA in,
just in case it later becomes needed.
>>>
Arthur, these days I'm "biased" toward simple designs and MS SQL triggers
and a parallel OLAP database could be such relatively simple extendable
(plugged/unplugged anytime) solution. I mean I'd just use such triggers to
"replicate" deleted/inserted/updated rows into parallel OLAP database with
tables' structure as you describe i.e. with BeginData and EndDate added.
(And I'd do that only for the tables' customers wanted to have your PITA
enabled with.)
Then all PITA enabled forms/reports/SPs/... will use this parallel OLAP
database together with actual OLTP one if needed...

Do I miss some more effective solutions of this practical task? As you wrote
harddisk memory is cheap these days - I agree with that of course - that's
also a point, which makes rather simple solution with "parallel versioned
data OLAP database" inexpensive...

<<<
"We need to be able to roll back the database to any given PIT without
actually having to do a restore. We just want to specify a date (Jan 1 2004)
and without changing a single line of code, run the reports.
>>> 
You mean "virtual rollback" of course? IOW a "point in time aware"
view/SP/UDF?
 
--
Shamil
 
-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of artful at rogers.com
Sent: Wednesday, November 22, 2006 5:03 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Stored Procedure not producing results

I have no way to verify whether you mused on this subject or not, but since
you asked, I will provide a thumbnail sketch:

0. You could do it with triggers, but that would not be my first choice.
1. every table will contain two columns called BeginDate and EndDate.
2. any inserted row will have a NOT NULL value in BeginDate, not necessarily
equivalent to today (otherwise you couldn't insert a row that takes effect
on January 1, 2007).
3. any row  without an EndDate is assumed to be effective now.
4. any update to an existing row copies its data to a new row, fills in the
EndDate column on the existing row with GetDate(), and supplies GetDate() as
the BeginDate on the new row.
5. Any "deleted" row is not actually deleted. Rather, it is preserved, but
its EndDate column is updpated to GetDate().

That's a quick thumbnail sketch of PITA. I may have left out a quirk or two
in the sketch, but that's the basic idea. Nothing is destroyed. Everything
is kept, and its time-span is demarcated by its BeginDate and EndDate
columns. 

Taking a practical example, I just switched doctors yesterday. This involves
several operations.

1. The "family physician" has changed, but do not destroy the previous data.
Therefore insert a new row whose BeginDate is yesterday, and update the
previous row, changing its EndDate to yesterday.
2. Agree that all previous medical data concerning me shall be forwarded to
the new physician. (Called Consent, in the medical lingo.)
3. Step two can be further refined, as in "release data about conditions x,
y and z, but not t, u and v" to my new physician.

At the end of the day, for various important reasons, not the least of which
is litigation, we must be able to determine the state of your particular
record(s) in the database as of January 1, 2004. Who was your physician?
What rights did she have to your prior data? What tests were performed upon
you, and on what dates, and with what results and with what follow-ups?

I chose this example a) because I have been there and written that, and b)
because it illustrates the problem vividly. We could easily substitute
lawyers for the physicians, or dentists, or any professional, including
ourselves, software developers. Consider a project as a metaphorical person
in the above. In 2001, the practitioner list comprised Fuller, Colby and
Salakhetdinov. In 2002, it comprised Hindman, Carbonell, Colby and Lawrence.
In the medical schema, one could easily have several practitioners, one for
heart, one for ENT (ear, nose, throat), one for gynecology, etc. And the
same holds true for a software client -- she employs an accounting expert, a
CRM expert, an Excel macro wizard, an Access expert, and so on.

That was a bit of a sidetrack, but remains on point, I think. The point
being, "We need to be able to roll back the database to any given PIT
without actually having to do a restore. We just want to specify a date (Jan
1 2004) and without changing a single line of code, run the reports.

That is the point of PITA.

It must be designed in from the outset. Not every app needs PITA, but it
becomes very difficult to add it after the fact. As anyone who has followed
my threads must know by now, I tend toward extremism. That said, I suggest
that you design PITA in, just in case it later becomes needed. In that case,
you look like a genius. And if the requirement never emerges, you wasted
some very cheap disk space. 

Arthur

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From accessd at shaw.ca  Wed Nov 22 18:15:07 2006
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Wed, 22 Nov 2006 16:15:07 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] Stored Procedure not producing results
In-Reply-To: <001f01c70e89$4aedb7f0$6401a8c0@nant>
Message-ID: <0J9500M7RPYPLQR0@l-daemon>

Thanks Shamil... I had not thought of transferring the data to local
database but was trying to make a linked DB work (Oracle 10g)... it should.
Is there a way to do the processing within MS SQL and not have to use an
external development language?

Jim

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[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Shamil
Salakhetdinov
Sent: Wednesday, November 22, 2006 2:55 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Stored Procedure not producing results

Jim,

That should be a relatively simple project I think (if I'm not missing
something) - extended procedures are not even needed:

- triggers can store inserted/updates/deleted rows into "buffer" tables in
another database running on the same SQL Server;
- MS Windows service application can scan these "buffer" tables, say, every
minute and check are there any new rows or not;
- If there are new rows then this service can wrap them into SOAP envelopes
and SMTP to the OLAP db server computer...
- ... where they can be processed by another MS Windows service application
and inserted into OLAP database...

If you will use .NET Framework 2.0 then coding using VB.NET/C# promises to
be minimal...

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-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
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Sent: Thursday, November 23, 2006 1:20 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Stored Procedure not producing results

This sounds like an excellent idea... I would be delighted to see a system
designed using XML for export, with a SOAP wrapper using SMTP to
message/queue the data into an OLAP DB. I have heard it described, seem it
work but have not been able to get it successfully operating on my
servers....
  
Jim  

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Salakhetdinov
Sent: Wednesday, November 22, 2006 10:31 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Stored Procedure not producing results

<<<
This caused some fancy trigger-footwork (inserts, 
updates, etc.) across db and server boundaries.
>>>
So, you do use triggers?

<<<
To further complicate things, there was a firewall separating 3 of the
databases from the other 5.
>>>
OK.
How about, e.g., using Extended Stored Procedures called from triggers,
which write inserted/updated/deleted rows in text(bcp-like) or XML formats,
which are then queued by service MS Windows application  to Mail Server,
which then sends them to OLAP server(s), where they are processed?

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Sent: Wednesday, November 22, 2006 8:37 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Stored Procedure not producing results

In my recent project involving PITA, there were 8 live databases, each
growing by an estimated 1 TB per year. To further complicate things, there
was a firewall separating 3 of the databases from the other 5. There was not
even a remote possibility that the OLAP db could reside on the same server
as the OLTP part.

This in turn posed problems, since RI doesn't work across db boundaries (in
MS-SQL). We got around this by duplicating some lookup tables -- not that
I'm suggesting that this is the best solution, but merely the one that was
selected. This caused some fancy trigger-footwork (inserts, updates, etc.)
across db and server boundaries.

Arthur

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To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
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Sent: Wednesday, November 22, 2006 12:27:34 PM
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Stored Procedure not producing results

<<<
And I am "extremely" flattered that you noticed.
>>>
OK :)

<<<
and also trigger complexities (fire a trigger on instance X and have it do
something to instance Y which resides on another server in another city). It
can be done, but it is non-trivial.
>>>
Well, OLAP PITA database keeping data for only the current working day, week
or month can be always installed on the same server where its "parent" OLTP
database is installed.
Then replication can be used to replicate OLAP PITA database wherever it's
needed to be replicated => to the main OLAP database(s).

Will that work OK?


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Sent: Wednesday, November 22, 2006 6:19 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Stored Procedure not producing results

I agree with you on the usefulness of triggers, but there are problems
(surmountable). Consider a database (or collection of databases) whose size
grows by a TB per year. This is going to be a huge problem, literally.
Chances are that you won't be able to support the OLTP and OLAP instances on
a single server, unless you have a SAN and very fancy hardware. This is
going to cause RI problems (on MS-SQL at least; Oracle has table-spaces and
can easily work around this issue), and also trigger complexities (fire a
trigger on instance X and have it do something to instance Y which resides
on another server in another city). It can be done, but it is non-trivial.

And I am "extremely" flattered that you noticed. 

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Sent: Wednesday, November 22, 2006 9:49:33 AM
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Stored Procedure not producing results

<<<
As anyone who has followed my threads must
know by now, I tend toward extremism.
>>>
That's so true Arthur! :) (Just kidding of course)

<<<
That said, I suggest that you design PITA in,
just in case it later becomes needed.
>>>
Arthur, these days I'm "biased" toward simple designs and MS SQL triggers
and a parallel OLAP database could be such relatively simple extendable
(plugged/unplugged anytime) solution. I mean I'd just use such triggers to
"replicate" deleted/inserted/updated rows into parallel OLAP database with
tables' structure as you describe i.e. with BeginData and EndDate added.
(And I'd do that only for the tables' customers wanted to have your PITA
enabled with.)
Then all PITA enabled forms/reports/SPs/... will use this parallel OLAP
database together with actual OLTP one if needed...

Do I miss some more effective solutions of this practical task? As you wrote
harddisk memory is cheap these days - I agree with that of course - that's
also a point, which makes rather simple solution with "parallel versioned
data OLAP database" inexpensive...

<<<
"We need to be able to roll back the database to any given PIT without
actually having to do a restore. We just want to specify a date (Jan 1 2004)
and without changing a single line of code, run the reports.
>>> 
You mean "virtual rollback" of course? IOW a "point in time aware"
view/SP/UDF?
 
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Sent: Wednesday, November 22, 2006 5:03 PM
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Subject: Re: [AccessD] Stored Procedure not producing results

I have no way to verify whether you mused on this subject or not, but since
you asked, I will provide a thumbnail sketch:

0. You could do it with triggers, but that would not be my first choice.
1. every table will contain two columns called BeginDate and EndDate.
2. any inserted row will have a NOT NULL value in BeginDate, not necessarily
equivalent to today (otherwise you couldn't insert a row that takes effect
on January 1, 2007).
3. any row  without an EndDate is assumed to be effective now.
4. any update to an existing row copies its data to a new row, fills in the
EndDate column on the existing row with GetDate(), and supplies GetDate() as
the BeginDate on the new row.
5. Any "deleted" row is not actually deleted. Rather, it is preserved, but
its EndDate column is updpated to GetDate().

That's a quick thumbnail sketch of PITA. I may have left out a quirk or two
in the sketch, but that's the basic idea. Nothing is destroyed. Everything
is kept, and its time-span is demarcated by its BeginDate and EndDate
columns. 

Taking a practical example, I just switched doctors yesterday. This involves
several operations.

1. The "family physician" has changed, but do not destroy the previous data.
Therefore insert a new row whose BeginDate is yesterday, and update the
previous row, changing its EndDate to yesterday.
2. Agree that all previous medical data concerning me shall be forwarded to
the new physician. (Called Consent, in the medical lingo.)
3. Step two can be further refined, as in "release data about conditions x,
y and z, but not t, u and v" to my new physician.

At the end of the day, for various important reasons, not the least of which
is litigation, we must be able to determine the state of your particular
record(s) in the database as of January 1, 2004. Who was your physician?
What rights did she have to your prior data? What tests were performed upon
you, and on what dates, and with what results and with what follow-ups?

I chose this example a) because I have been there and written that, and b)
because it illustrates the problem vividly. We could easily substitute
lawyers for the physicians, or dentists, or any professional, including
ourselves, software developers. Consider a project as a metaphorical person
in the above. In 2001, the practitioner list comprised Fuller, Colby and
Salakhetdinov. In 2002, it comprised Hindman, Carbonell, Colby and Lawrence.
In the medical schema, one could easily have several practitioners, one for
heart, one for ENT (ear, nose, throat), one for gynecology, etc. And the
same holds true for a software client -- she employs an accounting expert, a
CRM expert, an Excel macro wizard, an Access expert, and so on.

That was a bit of a sidetrack, but remains on point, I think. The point
being, "We need to be able to roll back the database to any given PIT
without actually having to do a restore. We just want to specify a date (Jan
1 2004) and without changing a single line of code, run the reports.

That is the point of PITA.

It must be designed in from the outset. Not every app needs PITA, but it
becomes very difficult to add it after the fact. As anyone who has followed
my threads must know by now, I tend toward extremism. That said, I suggest
that you design PITA in, just in case it later becomes needed. In that case,
you look like a genius. And if the requirement never emerges, you wasted
some very cheap disk space. 

Arthur

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From Gustav at cactus.dk  Thu Nov 23 04:04:07 2006
From: Gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Thu, 23 Nov 2006 11:04:07 +0100
Subject: [AccessD] Can I mouse over a continuous
	form's	controlanddisplay the value?
Message-ID: <s5658041.098@cactus.dk>

Hi Lonnie

Stephen Lebans has done this for a listbox. It might be possible to evolve the technique to cover continuous forms or datasheet forms as well:

http://www.lebans.com/tooltip.htm 

/gustav

>>> prodevmg at yahoo.com 22-11-2006 22:33 >>>
Thanks guys. This is one of the best forums that I have queried for answers to my problems.

It seems to work on a field that is bound to a table if I load the value of the field in the mouse over event into the ControlTipText.

Have not found a solution for a calculated field. Actually it is an expression 

(IIf([DoneFlag] = True,[Task])

I will keep trying. I may have to move my OnClick code to the DoubleClick event and use the OnClick to through the value in a label at the top of the form or something. Thanks again.




From bchacc at san.rr.com  Thu Nov 23 10:35:11 2006
From: bchacc at san.rr.com (Beach Access Software)
Date: Thu, 23 Nov 2006 08:35:11 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] Sending an exe attachment
Message-ID: <000501c70f1d$58c93cc0$6401a8c0@HAL9005>

Dear List:

 

Sorry for the somewhat OT.  I am using Wise/Sagekey combo to make a
setup.exe file so it will be dead simple to install my app - create a
folder, put shortcut on the desktop, etc., etc.

 

Works great but the problem came on the first time I sent to it a dealer to
check it out.  Outlook blocked the exe attachment.

 

I resent it zipped, which will work, but it kind of defeats the purpose
because the user would have to know how to unzip and where the unzipped
setup.exe file landed so they could run it.  This is past the technical
capability of many users.

 

I could also change the extension from exe to abc and that would get it past
the censors but then I would have to instruct the user to change the
extension before running it.

 

Has anyone encountered this problem before and know how to get around it?

 

MTIA,

 

Rocky

 



From Gustav at cactus.dk  Thu Nov 23 10:53:51 2006
From: Gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Thu, 23 Nov 2006 17:53:51 +0100
Subject: [AccessD] Sending an exe attachment
Message-ID: <s565e03c.018@cactus.dk>

Hi Rocky

Yes. 
No (except for the two methods you describe).

/gustav

>>> bchacc at san.rr.com 23-11-2006 17:35 >>>

Has anyone encountered this problem before and know how to get around it?




From dwaters at usinternet.com  Thu Nov 23 10:59:46 2006
From: dwaters at usinternet.com (Dan Waters)
Date: Thu, 23 Nov 2006 10:59:46 -0600
Subject: [AccessD] Sending an exe attachment
In-Reply-To: <28462357.1164300157935.JavaMail.root@sniper53>
Message-ID: <001301c70f20$c8735440$0200a8c0@danwaters>

Hi Rocky,

I have changed the extension (to .pdf) and included good instructions on how
to change it back to .exe.  That seems to work well enough.  I guess you
could create an instruction document which you could attach to the email.

Another thing I've done is to upload the file to my website.  I have a
client download page there which has text in bold letters: "Right-click to
Save File . . .", which is exactly what you see if you right click a file
link on a web page.  I haven't had any .mdb files blocked by doing this.  I
haven't tried with .exe files.

Best of Luck!

Dan Waters

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Subject: [AccessD] Sending an exe attachment

Dear List:

 

Sorry for the somewhat OT.  I am using Wise/Sagekey combo to make a
setup.exe file so it will be dead simple to install my app - create a
folder, put shortcut on the desktop, etc., etc.

 

Works great but the problem came on the first time I sent to it a dealer to
check it out.  Outlook blocked the exe attachment.

 

I resent it zipped, which will work, but it kind of defeats the purpose
because the user would have to know how to unzip and where the unzipped
setup.exe file landed so they could run it.  This is past the technical
capability of many users.

 

I could also change the extension from exe to abc and that would get it past
the censors but then I would have to instruct the user to change the
extension before running it.

 

Has anyone encountered this problem before and know how to get around it?

 

MTIA,

 

Rocky




From bill_Patten at earthlink.net  Thu Nov 23 11:26:11 2006
From: bill_Patten at earthlink.net (Bill Patten)
Date: Thu, 23 Nov 2006 09:26:11 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] Sending an exe attachment
References: <000501c70f1d$58c93cc0$6401a8c0@HAL9005>
Message-ID: <006701c70f24$78830440$0202fea9@BPCS>

Hi Rocky,

I couldn't figure out any good solution either. I often rename the file to 
.ex with instructions to add an e at the end. But even that doesn't work for 
some county's as the Exchange Server wont allow attachments. I now place the 
exe file in an FTP site and send user name and password to the users. They 
type in ftp:// IP address for my site or ftp://ftp-www.earthlink.net  in 
there browser and drag the file to there desktop. Been working well. Might 
not be a good solution for lots of users though.]

Bill
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Sent: Thursday, November 23, 2006 8:35 AM
Subject: [AccessD] Sending an exe attachment


Dear List:



Sorry for the somewhat OT.  I am using Wise/Sagekey combo to make a
setup.exe file so it will be dead simple to install my app - create a
folder, put shortcut on the desktop, etc., etc.



Works great but the problem came on the first time I sent to it a dealer to
check it out.  Outlook blocked the exe attachment.



I resent it zipped, which will work, but it kind of defeats the purpose
because the user would have to know how to unzip and where the unzipped
setup.exe file landed so they could run it.  This is past the technical
capability of many users.



I could also change the extension from exe to abc and that would get it past
the censors but then I would have to instruct the user to change the
extension before running it.



Has anyone encountered this problem before and know how to get around it?



MTIA,



Rocky



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From john at winhaven.net  Thu Nov 23 13:06:09 2006
From: john at winhaven.net (John Bartow)
Date: Thu, 23 Nov 2006 13:06:09 -0600
Subject: [AccessD] Sending an exe attachment
In-Reply-To: <000501c70f1d$58c93cc0$6401a8c0@HAL9005>
Message-ID: <200611231906.kANJ6Bq30342@databaseadvisors.com>

Hi Rocky,
I've resorted to the same issues you have or if the other end can do it
posting on FTP. The problem is that it depends on the end user's system not
ours.

HTH
John B. 

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[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Beach Access
Software
Sent: Thursday, November 23, 2006 10:35 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] Sending an exe attachment

Dear List:

 

Sorry for the somewhat OT.  I am using Wise/Sagekey combo to make a
setup.exe file so it will be dead simple to install my app - create a
folder, put shortcut on the desktop, etc., etc.

 

Works great but the problem came on the first time I sent to it a dealer to
check it out.  Outlook blocked the exe attachment.

 

I resent it zipped, which will work, but it kind of defeats the purpose
because the user would have to know how to unzip and where the unzipped
setup.exe file landed so they could run it.  This is past the technical
capability of many users.

 

I could also change the extension from exe to abc and that would get it past
the censors but then I would have to instruct the user to change the
extension before running it.

 

Has anyone encountered this problem before and know how to get around it?

 

MTIA,

 

Rocky

 

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From dw-murphy at cox.net  Thu Nov 23 13:57:40 2006
From: dw-murphy at cox.net (Doug Murphy)
Date: Thu, 23 Nov 2006 11:57:40 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] Sending an exe attachment
In-Reply-To: <000501c70f1d$58c93cc0$6401a8c0@HAL9005>
Message-ID: <002701c70f39$a1cce220$0200a8c0@murphy3234aaf1>

Rocky,

This seems to be a universal problem.  When outlook started blocking exe
files I started changing the file extensions and sending that way to
clients, but it is a crude solution.  I then found that gmail, which is
free, could be used to transfer files, so I set each client up with a gmail
account and they could download my files.  Now Gmail is blocking
executables.  I think the best solution would be to put the files on your
web site for users or set up an ftp site where they can download.  That puts
the least demand on the user.

Another option if you and your client use Skype, a great free VOIP service,
is to send the file via skype while you and the client are on line.

Let us know if you find a good solution using email.

Doug 

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[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Beach Access
Software
Sent: Thursday, November 23, 2006 8:35 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] Sending an exe attachment

Dear List:

 

Sorry for the somewhat OT.  I am using Wise/Sagekey combo to make a
setup.exe file so it will be dead simple to install my app - create a
folder, put shortcut on the desktop, etc., etc.

 

Works great but the problem came on the first time I sent to it a dealer to
check it out.  Outlook blocked the exe attachment.

 

I resent it zipped, which will work, but it kind of defeats the purpose
because the user would have to know how to unzip and where the unzipped
setup.exe file landed so they could run it.  This is past the technical
capability of many users.

 

I could also change the extension from exe to abc and that would get it past
the censors but then I would have to instruct the user to change the
extension before running it.

 

Has anyone encountered this problem before and know how to get around it?

 

MTIA,

 

Rocky

 

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From wdhindman at dejpolsystems.com  Thu Nov 23 13:58:18 2006
From: wdhindman at dejpolsystems.com (William Hindman)
Date: Thu, 23 Nov 2006 14:58:18 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Sending an exe attachment
References: <000501c70f1d$58c93cc0$6401a8c0@HAL9005>
Message-ID: <008401c70f39$b8d97500$3e3de844@50NM721>

...have you looked at the Wise/Sagekey forums? ...I use an ftp site to 
distribute my apps but then I have direct access to each client to train on 
how to do that easily and efficiently ...but it would seem to me that this 
is precisely the kind of problem that those using wise/sagekey for 
distribution would frequently face and thus I'd assume that their forums 
would have an extensive kb on it.

William Hindman

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To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'" 
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Sent: Thursday, November 23, 2006 11:35 AM
Subject: [AccessD] Sending an exe attachment


> Dear List:
>
>
>
> Sorry for the somewhat OT.  I am using Wise/Sagekey combo to make a
> setup.exe file so it will be dead simple to install my app - create a
> folder, put shortcut on the desktop, etc., etc.
>
>
>
> Works great but the problem came on the first time I sent to it a dealer 
> to
> check it out.  Outlook blocked the exe attachment.
>
>
>
> I resent it zipped, which will work, but it kind of defeats the purpose
> because the user would have to know how to unzip and where the unzipped
> setup.exe file landed so they could run it.  This is past the technical
> capability of many users.
>
>
>
> I could also change the extension from exe to abc and that would get it 
> past
> the censors but then I would have to instruct the user to change the
> extension before running it.
>
>
>
> Has anyone encountered this problem before and know how to get around it?
>
>
>
> MTIA,
>
>
>
> Rocky
>
>
>
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From martyconnelly at shaw.ca  Thu Nov 23 14:38:42 2006
From: martyconnelly at shaw.ca (MartyConnelly)
Date: Thu, 23 Nov 2006 12:38:42 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] Info Access Security
In-Reply-To: <006701c70f24$78830440$0202fea9@BPCS>
References: <000501c70f1d$58c93cc0$6401a8c0@HAL9005>
	<006701c70f24$78830440$0202fea9@BPCS>
Message-ID: <456606D2.5050702@shaw.ca>

Just came across this, might be useful.

Okay I found a complete step by step online guide to Access security
complete with pictures, screen shots and diagrams. Includes tips on
distributing the secured application.

http://www.databasedev.co.uk/access_security.html

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Victoria, B.C.
Canada



From shamil at users.mns.ru  Thu Nov 23 15:01:09 2006
From: shamil at users.mns.ru (Shamil Salakhetdinov)
Date: Fri, 24 Nov 2006 00:01:09 +0300
Subject: [AccessD] OT: 3 US cities airport codes
Message-ID: <001501c70f42$80a2a770$6401a8c0@nant>

Hi All,

I can't get what IATA airport codes to use for the following cities:

Lake Forest, IL, 60045
Olathe, KS, 66062
Walnut, CA, 91789

Could you please help me to solve this issue?

Thank you.

--
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From pedro at plex.nl  Thu Nov 23 15:27:33 2006
From: pedro at plex.nl (Pedro Janssen)
Date: Thu, 23 Nov 2006 22:27:33 +0100
Subject: [AccessD] #Name?
Message-ID: <000a01c70f46$303203e0$4001a8c0@qmotionfaa3ad9>

Hello Group,

i don't understand why i get: #Name?, in a textbox, when setting control source to:

=[Forms]![frmFossielData]![txtEralID].[Column](1)

The form, field en column exist.

Pedro Janssen

From pedro at plex.nl  Thu Nov 23 15:32:01 2006
From: pedro at plex.nl (Pedro Janssen)
Date: Thu, 23 Nov 2006 22:32:01 +0100
Subject: [AccessD] saving values
Message-ID: <001101c70f46$d05f91c0$4001a8c0@qmotionfaa3ad9>

Hello Group,

i still have troubles saving values from unbound comboxes (cascade) in table fields.

What is the best way to do this.

Pedro Janssen

From bchacc at san.rr.com  Thu Nov 23 15:36:01 2006
From: bchacc at san.rr.com (Beach Access Software)
Date: Thu, 23 Nov 2006 13:36:01 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] Date problem in Bound Form
Message-ID: <005201c70f47$5f8ba370$6401a8c0@HAL9005>

Dear List:

 

I have a bound form which has as one of its fields fldScheduledStartDate.
On the form I allow the user to input a scheduled start date filter - a >= a
scheduled start date and a <= a scheduled start date.  This works real well
in American date format - mm/dd/yyyy - but when I change regional settings
to UK it doesn't.  Everything on the bound form appears dd/mm/yyyy.  The
date filter appears dd/mm/yyyy.  But it doesn't filter.  

 

The filter which is set to limit records with a scheduled start date in
November looks like this:

 

fldPMScheduleStartDate >= #01/11/2006# AND fldPMScheduleStartDate <=
#30/11/2006#

 

The two date are copied out of the unbound text boxes on the form just as
they appear.  The text boxes have their format set to Short Date.

 

Anyone know why the filter is failing to filter?

 

MTIA,

 

Rocky

 



From stuart at lexacorp.com.pg  Thu Nov 23 15:53:54 2006
From: stuart at lexacorp.com.pg (Stuart McLachlan)
Date: Fri, 24 Nov 2006 07:53:54 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] Date problem in Bound Form
In-Reply-To: <005201c70f47$5f8ba370$6401a8c0@HAL9005>
References: <005201c70f47$5f8ba370$6401a8c0@HAL9005>
Message-ID: <45661872.20153.342C693@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>

Ah, the joys of internationalisation :-)

See below

On 23 Nov 2006 at 13:36, Beach Access Software wrote:

> The filter which is set to limit records with a scheduled start date in
> November looks like this:
...
> fldPMScheduleStartDate >= #01/11/2006# AND fldPMScheduleStartDate <=
> #30/11/2006#
> 
> The two date are copied out of the unbound text boxes on the form just as
> they appear.  The text boxes have their format set to Short Date.
> 
> Anyone know why the filter is failing to filter?

Because SQL and "#"'s require US format.

Assuming you are getting the two dates from txtStart and txtEnd, use 
something like the following, then it doesn't matter what the machine's 
local date settings are:

strFilter = "fldPMScheduleStartDate >= Datevalue('" & txtstart & "') AND 
fldPMScheduleStartDate <= Datevalue('" & txtend & "')"

-- 
Stuart




From wdhindman at dejpolsystems.com  Thu Nov 23 15:54:46 2006
From: wdhindman at dejpolsystems.com (William Hindman)
Date: Thu, 23 Nov 2006 16:54:46 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Date problem in Bound Form
References: <005201c70f47$5f8ba370$6401a8c0@HAL9005>
Message-ID: <002b01c70f49$fe54ad60$3e3de844@50NM721>

...the same field name is used in both filter fields in your example?

William Hindman

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Beach Access Software" <bchacc at san.rr.com>
To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'" 
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Thursday, November 23, 2006 4:36 PM
Subject: [AccessD] Date problem in Bound Form


> Dear List:
>
>
>
> I have a bound form which has as one of its fields fldScheduledStartDate.
> On the form I allow the user to input a scheduled start date filter - a >= 
> a
> scheduled start date and a <= a scheduled start date.  This works real 
> well
> in American date format - mm/dd/yyyy - but when I change regional settings
> to UK it doesn't.  Everything on the bound form appears dd/mm/yyyy.  The
> date filter appears dd/mm/yyyy.  But it doesn't filter.
>
>
>
> The filter which is set to limit records with a scheduled start date in
> November looks like this:
>
>
>
> fldPMScheduleStartDate >= #01/11/2006# AND fldPMScheduleStartDate <=
> #30/11/2006#
>
>
>
> The two date are copied out of the unbound text boxes on the form just as
> they appear.  The text boxes have their format set to Short Date.
>
>
>
> Anyone know why the filter is failing to filter?
>
>
>
> MTIA,
>
>
>
> Rocky
>
>
>
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From martyconnelly at shaw.ca  Thu Nov 23 16:10:23 2006
From: martyconnelly at shaw.ca (MartyConnelly)
Date: Thu, 23 Nov 2006 14:10:23 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] OT: 3 US cities airport codes
In-Reply-To: <001501c70f42$80a2a770$6401a8c0@nant>
References: <001501c70f42$80a2a770$6401a8c0@nant>
Message-ID: <45661C4F.6040308@shaw.ca>

 From http://www.mapping.com/airportcodes.html

ICAO Code FAA or IATA Code Town or CIty State or Province Airport Name 
Country

  IXD Olathe KS [New Century Aircenter Airport] USA
  OJC Olathe KS/Kansas City MO [Johnson County Executive Airport] USA
  51K Olathe KS [Cedar Airpark Airport] USA

ICAO Code FAA or IATA Code Town or CIty State or Province Airport Name 
Country

  CA63 Walnut Creek CA [John Muir Memorial Hospital] USA

ICAO Code FAA or IATA Code Town or CIty State or Province Airport Name 
Country
  ME28 Cumberland ME [Forest Lake] USA
  MY82 Forest Lake MN [Du Fresne] USA
  UT18 Salt Lake City UT [U S Forest Service] USA
  25D Forest Lake MN [Forest Lake Airport] USA

I dunno about Lake Forest Illinois, it is a suburb of Chicago
where major fields are Midway and O'Hare
But Lake Forest is the headquarters of United Airlines
so it could be a private strip or a helipad.



Shamil Salakhetdinov wrote:

>Hi All,
>
>I can't get what IATA airport codes to use for the following cities:
>
>Lake Forest, IL, 60045
>Olathe, KS, 66062
>Walnut, CA, 91789
>
>Could you please help me to solve this issue?
>
>Thank you.
>
>--
>Shamil
> 
>
>  
>

-- 
Marty Connelly
Victoria, B.C.
Canada



From shamil at users.mns.ru  Thu Nov 23 16:29:37 2006
From: shamil at users.mns.ru (Shamil Salakhetdinov)
Date: Fri, 24 Nov 2006 01:29:37 +0300
Subject: [AccessD] OT: 3 US cities airport codes
In-Reply-To: <45661C4F.6040308@shaw.ca>
Message-ID: <002101c70f4e$dc567db0$6401a8c0@nant>

Thank you Marty!

--
Shamil
 

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of MartyConnelly
Sent: Friday, November 24, 2006 1:10 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] OT: 3 US cities airport codes

 From http://www.mapping.com/airportcodes.html

ICAO Code FAA or IATA Code Town or CIty State or Province Airport Name 
Country

  IXD Olathe KS [New Century Aircenter Airport] USA
  OJC Olathe KS/Kansas City MO [Johnson County Executive Airport] USA
  51K Olathe KS [Cedar Airpark Airport] USA

ICAO Code FAA or IATA Code Town or CIty State or Province Airport Name 
Country

  CA63 Walnut Creek CA [John Muir Memorial Hospital] USA

ICAO Code FAA or IATA Code Town or CIty State or Province Airport Name 
Country
  ME28 Cumberland ME [Forest Lake] USA
  MY82 Forest Lake MN [Du Fresne] USA
  UT18 Salt Lake City UT [U S Forest Service] USA
  25D Forest Lake MN [Forest Lake Airport] USA

I dunno about Lake Forest Illinois, it is a suburb of Chicago
where major fields are Midway and O'Hare
But Lake Forest is the headquarters of United Airlines
so it could be a private strip or a helipad.



Shamil Salakhetdinov wrote:

>Hi All,
>
>I can't get what IATA airport codes to use for the following cities:
>
>Lake Forest, IL, 60045
>Olathe, KS, 66062
>Walnut, CA, 91789
>
>Could you please help me to solve this issue?
>
>Thank you.
>
>--
>Shamil
> 
>
>  
>

-- 
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Victoria, B.C.
Canada

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From bchacc at san.rr.com  Thu Nov 23 17:07:04 2006
From: bchacc at san.rr.com (Beach Access Software)
Date: Thu, 23 Nov 2006 15:07:04 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] saving values
In-Reply-To: <001101c70f46$d05f91c0$4001a8c0@qmotionfaa3ad9>
Message-ID: <005701c70f54$17d987b0$6401a8c0@HAL9005>

I'd use Dao, open the record in question, push the value in, and requery the
form.

Rocky


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Pedro Janssen
Sent: 23 November 2006 13:32
To: AccessD
Subject: [AccessD] saving values

Hello Group,

i still have troubles saving values from unbound comboxes (cascade) in table
fields.

What is the best way to do this.

Pedro Janssen
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From bchacc at san.rr.com  Thu Nov 23 17:07:46 2006
From: bchacc at san.rr.com (Beach Access Software)
Date: Thu, 23 Nov 2006 15:07:46 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] Date problem in Bound Form
In-Reply-To: <002b01c70f49$fe54ad60$3e3de844@50NM721>
Message-ID: <005801c70f54$30cf25e0$6401a8c0@HAL9005>

Yep

R


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of William Hindman
Sent: 23 November 2006 13:55
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Date problem in Bound Form

...the same field name is used in both filter fields in your example?

William Hindman

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Beach Access Software" <bchacc at san.rr.com>
To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'" 
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Thursday, November 23, 2006 4:36 PM
Subject: [AccessD] Date problem in Bound Form


> Dear List:
>
>
>
> I have a bound form which has as one of its fields fldScheduledStartDate.
> On the form I allow the user to input a scheduled start date filter - a >=

> a
> scheduled start date and a <= a scheduled start date.  This works real 
> well
> in American date format - mm/dd/yyyy - but when I change regional settings
> to UK it doesn't.  Everything on the bound form appears dd/mm/yyyy.  The
> date filter appears dd/mm/yyyy.  But it doesn't filter.
>
>
>
> The filter which is set to limit records with a scheduled start date in
> November looks like this:
>
>
>
> fldPMScheduleStartDate >= #01/11/2006# AND fldPMScheduleStartDate <=
> #30/11/2006#
>
>
>
> The two date are copied out of the unbound text boxes on the form just as
> they appear.  The text boxes have their format set to Short Date.
>
>
>
> Anyone know why the filter is failing to filter?
>
>
>
> MTIA,
>
>
>
> Rocky
>
>
>
> -- 
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From bchacc at san.rr.com  Thu Nov 23 17:11:55 2006
From: bchacc at san.rr.com (Beach Access Software)
Date: Thu, 23 Nov 2006 15:11:55 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] Date problem in Bound Form
In-Reply-To: <45661872.20153.342C693@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>
Message-ID: <005901c70f54$c51f49a0$6401a8c0@HAL9005>

That worked!!  Thank you, thank you, thaaank you.

Now I can go eat a turkey. 

Rocky


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Stuart McLachlan
Sent: 23 November 2006 13:54
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Date problem in Bound Form

Ah, the joys of internationalisation :-)

See below

On 23 Nov 2006 at 13:36, Beach Access Software wrote:

> The filter which is set to limit records with a scheduled start date in
> November looks like this:
...
> fldPMScheduleStartDate >= #01/11/2006# AND fldPMScheduleStartDate <=
> #30/11/2006#
> 
> The two date are copied out of the unbound text boxes on the form just as
> they appear.  The text boxes have their format set to Short Date.
> 
> Anyone know why the filter is failing to filter?

Because SQL and "#"'s require US format.

Assuming you are getting the two dates from txtStart and txtEnd, use 
something like the following, then it doesn't matter what the machine's 
local date settings are:

strFilter = "fldPMScheduleStartDate >= Datevalue('" & txtstart & "') AND 
fldPMScheduleStartDate <= Datevalue('" & txtend & "')"

-- 
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From pedro at plex.nl  Thu Nov 23 17:34:34 2006
From: pedro at plex.nl (Pedro Janssen)
Date: Fri, 24 Nov 2006 00:34:34 +0100
Subject: [AccessD] saving values
References: <005701c70f54$17d987b0$6401a8c0@HAL9005>
Message-ID: <003301c70f57$ef1a2d30$4001a8c0@qmotionfaa3ad9>

Hello Rocky,

could you give me an example of that, preferably in a example database.
I have tried several things until now but nothing is working perfect.

Pedro Janssen


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Beach Access Software" <bchacc at san.rr.com>
To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'" 
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Friday, November 24, 2006 12:07 AM
Subject: Re: [AccessD] saving values


> I'd use Dao, open the record in question, push the value in, and requery 
> the
> form.
>
> Rocky
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Pedro Janssen
> Sent: 23 November 2006 13:32
> To: AccessD
> Subject: [AccessD] saving values
>
> Hello Group,
>
> i still have troubles saving values from unbound comboxes (cascade) in 
> table
> fields.
>
> What is the best way to do this.
>
> Pedro Janssen
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> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com
>
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From accessd at shaw.ca  Fri Nov 24 13:12:41 2006
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Fri, 24 Nov 2006 11:12:41 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] OT Friday
In-Reply-To: <45661C4F.6040308@shaw.ca>
Message-ID: <0J9900F6Y1AXD4Y1@l-daemon>

OT Friday:

Here is an interesting link: http://www.spoj.pl/problems/classical/

Jim



From tinanfields at torchlake.com  Fri Nov 24 13:42:40 2006
From: tinanfields at torchlake.com (Tina Norris Fields)
Date: Fri, 24 Nov 2006 14:42:40 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] #Name?
In-Reply-To: <000a01c70f46$303203e0$4001a8c0@qmotionfaa3ad9>
References: <000a01c70f46$303203e0$4001a8c0@qmotionfaa3ad9>
Message-ID: <45674B30.8080901@torchlake.com>

Pedro,
Column (0) instead of Column (1) maybe?
Tina

Pedro Janssen wrote:
> Hello Group,
>
> i don't understand why i get: #Name?, in a textbox, when setting control source to:
>
> =[Forms]![frmFossielData]![txtEralID].[Column](1)
>
> The form, field en column exist.
>
> Pedro Janssen
>   


From bchacc at san.rr.com  Fri Nov 24 14:09:39 2006
From: bchacc at san.rr.com (Beach Access Software)
Date: Fri, 24 Nov 2006 12:09:39 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] saving values
In-Reply-To: <003301c70f57$ef1a2d30$4001a8c0@qmotionfaa3ad9>
Message-ID: <006101c71004$790c47b0$6401a8c0@HAL9005>

Pedro:

Just off the top and untested:

Dim db as DAO.Database
Dim rs as DAO.Recordset

Set db = CurrentDb
Set rs = db.OpenRecordset("Select fldOne, fldTwo, fldThree FROM tblMyTable
WHERE fldPK = " & lngPrimaryKey) 

' Note: You could use any criteria you want in the WHERE clause; doesn't
have to be the primary key.

rs.Edit
rs!fldOne = cboComboBox1
rs!fldTwo = cboComboBox2
rs!fldThree = cboComboBox3
rs.Update

rs.Close
db.Close

set rs = Nothing
set db = Nothing

Me.Requery (assuming you want the values to show on the bound form.


Or here's another approach which I think should work but I haven't tested:

Set db = CurrentDb
Db.Execute "UPDATE tblMyTable SET tblMyTable.fldOne = '" & cboComboBox1 &
"', tblMyTable.fldTwo= '" & cboComboBox2 & "', tblMyTable.fldThree = '" &
cboComboBox3 & "';"

Note that I have assumes that the values are string values and so need to
have preceding and following apostrophes.  If the values are numeric then
they won't need the '.

I'm sure someone else looking at this code will make the appropriate
corrections.

Regards,

Rocky


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Pedro Janssen
Sent: Thursday, November 23, 2006 3:35 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] saving values

Hello Rocky,

could you give me an example of that, preferably in a example database.
I have tried several things until now but nothing is working perfect.

Pedro Janssen


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Beach Access Software" <bchacc at san.rr.com>
To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'" 
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Friday, November 24, 2006 12:07 AM
Subject: Re: [AccessD] saving values


> I'd use Dao, open the record in question, push the value in, and requery 
> the
> form.
>
> Rocky
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Pedro Janssen
> Sent: 23 November 2006 13:32
> To: AccessD
> Subject: [AccessD] saving values
>
> Hello Group,
>
> i still have troubles saving values from unbound comboxes (cascade) in 
> table
> fields.
>
> What is the best way to do this.
>
> Pedro Janssen
> -- 
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>
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From markamatte at hotmail.com  Fri Nov 24 14:15:44 2006
From: markamatte at hotmail.com (Mark A Matte)
Date: Fri, 24 Nov 2006 20:15:44 +0000
Subject: [AccessD] OT Friday
In-Reply-To: <0J9900F6Y1AXD4Y1@l-daemon>
Message-ID: <BAY127-F5381AEE0CF87D889BB70BD2E10@phx.gbl>

Jim,

Thats really cool...I just spent the last 30 minutes learning  how to to 
Mayan arithmatic.  I know thats not the purpose of the site...but it caught 
my attention.

Thanks,

Mark A. Matte


>From: Jim Lawrence <accessd at shaw.ca>
>Reply-To: Access Developers discussion and problem 
>solving<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
>To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem 
>solving'"<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
>Subject: [AccessD] OT Friday
>Date: Fri, 24 Nov 2006 11:12:41 -0800
>
>OT Friday:
>
>Here is an interesting link: http://www.spoj.pl/problems/classical/
>
>Jim
>
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From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com  Sat Nov 25 05:28:52 2006
From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (JWColby)
Date: Sat, 25 Nov 2006 06:28:52 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Cursor selects everything to the right
Message-ID: <000301c71084$e37d5dc0$657aa8c0@m6805>

I have seen this before and managed to get rid of it but don't remember how.
In a query, the cursor is selecting everything to the right of the cursor,
anywhere you place the cursor in query design.  Very annoying.
 
Closing the db and re-opening makes it go away.  Does anyone know why this
happens and how to get rid of it short of close / re-open.  I seem to
remember it has something to do with the sticky keys stuff but I could be
mistaken.
 
John W. Colby
Colby Consulting
www.ColbyConsulting.com
 


From bchacc at san.rr.com  Sat Nov 25 08:08:23 2006
From: bchacc at san.rr.com (Beach Access Software)
Date: Sat, 25 Nov 2006 06:08:23 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] Checking control property in an external mde database
Message-ID: <001501c7109b$2bb0f0a0$6401a8c0@HAL9005>

Dear List:

 

Is it possible to check the visible property of a control on a form in
another database which is an mde?  Would it be necessary to have that
database is currently open with that form opened?

 

MTIA

 

Rocky

 



From cjlabs at worldnet.att.net  Sat Nov 25 08:28:05 2006
From: cjlabs at worldnet.att.net (Carolyn Johnson)
Date: Sat, 25 Nov 2006 08:28:05 -0600
Subject: [AccessD] Cursor selects everything to the right
References: <000301c71084$e37d5dc0$657aa8c0@m6805>
Message-ID: <001c01c7109d$ecfb4ab0$0500a8c0@TOSHIBA>

I don't know if this is the same thing, but sometimes I apparently hit a key 
combination that turns on the "EXT" in the tray and the cursor shows similar 
behavior.

Hitting ESC stops it.

HTH,
Carolyn Johnson



----- Original Message ----- 
From: "JWColby" <jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com>
To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'" 
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Saturday, November 25, 2006 5:28 AM
Subject: [AccessD] Cursor selects everything to the right


>I have seen this before and managed to get rid of it but don't remember 
>how.
> In a query, the cursor is selecting everything to the right of the cursor,
> anywhere you place the cursor in query design.  Very annoying.
>
> Closing the db and re-opening makes it go away.  Does anyone know why this
> happens and how to get rid of it short of close / re-open.  I seem to
> remember it has something to do with the sticky keys stuff but I could be
> mistaken.
>
> John W. Colby
> Colby Consulting
> www.ColbyConsulting.com
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From pedro at plex.nl  Sat Nov 25 14:13:33 2006
From: pedro at plex.nl (Pedro Janssen)
Date: Sat, 25 Nov 2006 21:13:33 +0100
Subject: [AccessD] #Name?
References: <000a01c70f46$303203e0$4001a8c0@qmotionfaa3ad9>
	<45674B30.8080901@torchlake.com>
Message-ID: <001301c710ce$2f309950$4001a8c0@qmotionfaa3ad9>

Hello Tina,

it couldn't be the column-number, because there were three columns in the 
rowsource.
I think this form was corrupt, because when i imported the fields into a new 
form, the unbound field gave the exact value,

Pedro Janssen



----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Tina Norris Fields" <tinanfields at torchlake.com>
To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving" 
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Friday, November 24, 2006 8:42 PM
Subject: Re: [AccessD] #Name?


> Pedro,
> Column (0) instead of Column (1) maybe?
> Tina
>
> Pedro Janssen wrote:
>> Hello Group,
>>
>> i don't understand why i get: #Name?, in a textbox, when setting control 
>> source to:
>>
>> =[Forms]![frmFossielData]![txtEralID].[Column](1)
>>
>> The form, field en column exist.
>>
>> Pedro Janssen
>>
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From pedro at plex.nl  Sat Nov 25 14:36:43 2006
From: pedro at plex.nl (Pedro Janssen)
Date: Sat, 25 Nov 2006 21:36:43 +0100
Subject: [AccessD] saving values
References: <006101c71004$790c47b0$6401a8c0@HAL9005>
Message-ID: <000801c710d1$6d2810a0$4001a8c0@qmotionfaa3ad9>

Hello Rocky (and Others),

the code is working fine, but only for the first record on the form.
When i try to use it on the second record (after closing) it jumps to record 
one and overwrite's the data there.
Trying to put the where statement in it to state that ID = ID, it gives an 
error on record two that it expects parameter = 1.

The code that i use now:

Private Sub Form_Close()

Dim db As DAO.Database
Dim rs As DAO.Recordset

Set db = CurrentDb
Set rs = db.OpenRecordset("Select Era, Periode, Epoch, Etage, Tijd FROM 
tblFossielData")

rs.Edit
rs!Era = cboEra
rs!Periode = cboPeriode
rs!Epoch = cboEpoch
rs!Etage = cboEtage
rs!Tijd = cboTijd
rs.Update

rs.Close
db.Close

Set rs = Nothing
Set db = Nothing

Me.Requery

End Sub

What can i do about this?

Pedro Janssen






----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Beach Access Software" <bchacc at san.rr.com>
To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'" 
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Friday, November 24, 2006 9:09 PM
Subject: Re: [AccessD] saving values


> Pedro:
>
> Just off the top and untested:
>
> Dim db as DAO.Database
> Dim rs as DAO.Recordset
>
> Set db = CurrentDb
> Set rs = db.OpenRecordset("Select fldOne, fldTwo, fldThree FROM tblMyTable
> WHERE fldPK = " & lngPrimaryKey)
>
> ' Note: You could use any criteria you want in the WHERE clause; doesn't
> have to be the primary key.
>
> rs.Edit
> rs!fldOne = cboComboBox1
> rs!fldTwo = cboComboBox2
> rs!fldThree = cboComboBox3
> rs.Update
>
> rs.Close
> db.Close
>
> set rs = Nothing
> set db = Nothing
>
> Me.Requery (assuming you want the values to show on the bound form.
>
>
> Or here's another approach which I think should work but I haven't tested:
>
> Set db = CurrentDb
> Db.Execute "UPDATE tblMyTable SET tblMyTable.fldOne = '" & cboComboBox1 &
> "', tblMyTable.fldTwo= '" & cboComboBox2 & "', tblMyTable.fldThree = '" &
> cboComboBox3 & "';"
>
> Note that I have assumes that the values are string values and so need to
> have preceding and following apostrophes.  If the values are numeric then
> they won't need the '.
>
> I'm sure someone else looking at this code will make the appropriate
> corrections.
>
> Regards,
>
> Rocky
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Pedro Janssen
> Sent: Thursday, November 23, 2006 3:35 PM
> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] saving values
>
> Hello Rocky,
>
> could you give me an example of that, preferably in a example database.
> I have tried several things until now but nothing is working perfect.
>
> Pedro Janssen
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Beach Access Software" <bchacc at san.rr.com>
> To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'"
> <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
> Sent: Friday, November 24, 2006 12:07 AM
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] saving values
>
>
>> I'd use Dao, open the record in question, push the value in, and requery
>> the
>> form.
>>
>> Rocky
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Pedro Janssen
>> Sent: 23 November 2006 13:32
>> To: AccessD
>> Subject: [AccessD] saving values
>>
>> Hello Group,
>>
>> i still have troubles saving values from unbound comboxes (cascade) in
>> table
>> fields.
>>
>> What is the best way to do this.
>>
>> Pedro Janssen
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From bill_Patten at earthlink.net  Sat Nov 25 15:24:55 2006
From: bill_Patten at earthlink.net (Bill Patten)
Date: Sat, 25 Nov 2006 13:24:55 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] saving values
References: <006101c71004$790c47b0$6401a8c0@HAL9005>
	<000801c710d1$6d2810a0$4001a8c0@qmotionfaa3ad9>
Message-ID: <003701c710d8$27316f40$0202fea9@BPCS>

Pedro,

I haven't been following the thread, but perhaps you need an rs.addnew 
instead of rs.edit???

HTH

Bill
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Pedro Janssen" <pedro at plex.nl>
To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving" 
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Saturday, November 25, 2006 12:36 PM
Subject: Re: [AccessD] saving values


Hello Rocky (and Others),

the code is working fine, but only for the first record on the form.
When i try to use it on the second record (after closing) it jumps to record
one and overwrite's the data there.
Trying to put the where statement in it to state that ID = ID, it gives an
error on record two that it expects parameter = 1.

The code that i use now:

Private Sub Form_Close()

Dim db As DAO.Database
Dim rs As DAO.Recordset

Set db = CurrentDb
Set rs = db.OpenRecordset("Select Era, Periode, Epoch, Etage, Tijd FROM
tblFossielData")

rs.Edit
rs!Era = cboEra
rs!Periode = cboPeriode
rs!Epoch = cboEpoch
rs!Etage = cboEtage
rs!Tijd = cboTijd
rs.Update

rs.Close
db.Close

Set rs = Nothing
Set db = Nothing

Me.Requery

End Sub

What can i do about this?

Pedro Janssen






----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Beach Access Software" <bchacc at san.rr.com>
To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'"
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Friday, November 24, 2006 9:09 PM
Subject: Re: [AccessD] saving values


> Pedro:
>
> Just off the top and untested:
>
> Dim db as DAO.Database
> Dim rs as DAO.Recordset
>
> Set db = CurrentDb
> Set rs = db.OpenRecordset("Select fldOne, fldTwo, fldThree FROM tblMyTable
> WHERE fldPK = " & lngPrimaryKey)
>
> ' Note: You could use any criteria you want in the WHERE clause; doesn't
> have to be the primary key.
>
> rs.Edit
> rs!fldOne = cboComboBox1
> rs!fldTwo = cboComboBox2
> rs!fldThree = cboComboBox3
> rs.Update
>
> rs.Close
> db.Close
>
> set rs = Nothing
> set db = Nothing
>
> Me.Requery (assuming you want the values to show on the bound form.
>
>
> Or here's another approach which I think should work but I haven't tested:
>
> Set db = CurrentDb
> Db.Execute "UPDATE tblMyTable SET tblMyTable.fldOne = '" & cboComboBox1 &
> "', tblMyTable.fldTwo= '" & cboComboBox2 & "', tblMyTable.fldThree = '" &
> cboComboBox3 & "';"
>
> Note that I have assumes that the values are string values and so need to
> have preceding and following apostrophes.  If the values are numeric then
> they won't need the '.
>
> I'm sure someone else looking at this code will make the appropriate
> corrections.
>
> Regards,
>
> Rocky
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Pedro Janssen
> Sent: Thursday, November 23, 2006 3:35 PM
> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] saving values
>
> Hello Rocky,
>
> could you give me an example of that, preferably in a example database.
> I have tried several things until now but nothing is working perfect.
>
> Pedro Janssen
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Beach Access Software" <bchacc at san.rr.com>
> To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'"
> <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
> Sent: Friday, November 24, 2006 12:07 AM
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] saving values
>
>
>> I'd use Dao, open the record in question, push the value in, and requery
>> the
>> form.
>>
>> Rocky
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Pedro Janssen
>> Sent: 23 November 2006 13:32
>> To: AccessD
>> Subject: [AccessD] saving values
>>
>> Hello Group,
>>
>> i still have troubles saving values from unbound comboxes (cascade) in
>> table
>> fields.
>>
>> What is the best way to do this.
>>
>> Pedro Janssen
>> -- 
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>> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com
>>
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>> 22/11/2006
>> 17:41
>>
>>
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From bchacc at san.rr.com  Sat Nov 25 15:30:32 2006
From: bchacc at san.rr.com (Beach Access Software)
Date: Sat, 25 Nov 2006 13:30:32 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] saving values
In-Reply-To: <000801c710d1$6d2810a0$4001a8c0@qmotionfaa3ad9>
Message-ID: <006f01c710d8$effbdeb0$6401a8c0@HAL9005>

Pedro:

It looks like you are opening the table with all of the records.  So the
record pointer of the recor4dset is always pointing to the first record.
You need to either 1) use a WHERE clause in the Set rs = db.OpenRecordset so
you get only the record you want, or 2) after opening the recordset use
rs.FindFirst and specify the primary key of the record you want to update.
Then the recordset will be positioned at the record you want to update.  Be
sure to use if rs.NoMatch just in case the FindFirst doesn't find the
record.

Regards,

Rocky


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Pedro Janssen
Sent: Saturday, November 25, 2006 12:37 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] saving values

Hello Rocky (and Others),

the code is working fine, but only for the first record on the form.
When i try to use it on the second record (after closing) it jumps to record

one and overwrite's the data there.
Trying to put the where statement in it to state that ID = ID, it gives an 
error on record two that it expects parameter = 1.

The code that i use now:

Private Sub Form_Close()

Dim db As DAO.Database
Dim rs As DAO.Recordset

Set db = CurrentDb
Set rs = db.OpenRecordset("Select Era, Periode, Epoch, Etage, Tijd FROM 
tblFossielData")

rs.Edit
rs!Era = cboEra
rs!Periode = cboPeriode
rs!Epoch = cboEpoch
rs!Etage = cboEtage
rs!Tijd = cboTijd
rs.Update

rs.Close
db.Close

Set rs = Nothing
Set db = Nothing

Me.Requery

End Sub

What can i do about this?

Pedro Janssen






----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Beach Access Software" <bchacc at san.rr.com>
To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'" 
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Friday, November 24, 2006 9:09 PM
Subject: Re: [AccessD] saving values


> Pedro:
>
> Just off the top and untested:
>
> Dim db as DAO.Database
> Dim rs as DAO.Recordset
>
> Set db = CurrentDb
> Set rs = db.OpenRecordset("Select fldOne, fldTwo, fldThree FROM tblMyTable
> WHERE fldPK = " & lngPrimaryKey)
>
> ' Note: You could use any criteria you want in the WHERE clause; doesn't
> have to be the primary key.
>
> rs.Edit
> rs!fldOne = cboComboBox1
> rs!fldTwo = cboComboBox2
> rs!fldThree = cboComboBox3
> rs.Update
>
> rs.Close
> db.Close
>
> set rs = Nothing
> set db = Nothing
>
> Me.Requery (assuming you want the values to show on the bound form.
>
>
> Or here's another approach which I think should work but I haven't tested:
>
> Set db = CurrentDb
> Db.Execute "UPDATE tblMyTable SET tblMyTable.fldOne = '" & cboComboBox1 &
> "', tblMyTable.fldTwo= '" & cboComboBox2 & "', tblMyTable.fldThree = '" &
> cboComboBox3 & "';"
>
> Note that I have assumes that the values are string values and so need to
> have preceding and following apostrophes.  If the values are numeric then
> they won't need the '.
>
> I'm sure someone else looking at this code will make the appropriate
> corrections.
>
> Regards,
>
> Rocky
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Pedro Janssen
> Sent: Thursday, November 23, 2006 3:35 PM
> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] saving values
>
> Hello Rocky,
>
> could you give me an example of that, preferably in a example database.
> I have tried several things until now but nothing is working perfect.
>
> Pedro Janssen
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Beach Access Software" <bchacc at san.rr.com>
> To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'"
> <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
> Sent: Friday, November 24, 2006 12:07 AM
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] saving values
>
>
>> I'd use Dao, open the record in question, push the value in, and requery
>> the
>> form.
>>
>> Rocky
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Pedro Janssen
>> Sent: 23 November 2006 13:32
>> To: AccessD
>> Subject: [AccessD] saving values
>>
>> Hello Group,
>>
>> i still have troubles saving values from unbound comboxes (cascade) in
>> table
>> fields.
>>
>> What is the best way to do this.
>>
>> Pedro Janssen
>> -- 
>> AccessD mailing list
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>> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com
>>
>> -- 
>> No virus found in this incoming message.
>> Checked by AVG Free Edition.
>> Version: 7.5.430 / Virus Database: 268.14.14/547 - Release Date:
>> 22/11/2006
>> 17:41
>>
>>
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>
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From dwaters at usinternet.com  Sat Nov 25 15:53:42 2006
From: dwaters at usinternet.com (Dan Waters)
Date: Sat, 25 Nov 2006 15:53:42 -0600
Subject: [AccessD] #Name?
In-Reply-To: <25918643.1164486033513.JavaMail.root@sniper3>
Message-ID: <000201c710dc$2cd98190$0200a8c0@danwaters>

Pedro,

You appear to be referencing a textbox, which does not have a column
property.  Just reference the textbox without the column property.  A
textbox only has one column.

Dan Waters

-----Original Message-----
Subject: Re: [AccessD] #Name?

Hello Tina,

it couldn't be the column-number, because there were three columns in the 
rowsource.
I think this form was corrupt, because when i imported the fields into a new

form, the unbound field gave the exact value,

Pedro Janssen



----- Original Message ----- 
Subject: Re: [AccessD] #Name?


> Pedro,
> Column (0) instead of Column (1) maybe?
> Tina
>
> Pedro Janssen wrote:
>> Hello Group,
>>
>> i don't understand why i get: #Name?, in a textbox, when setting control 
>> source to:
>>
>> =[Forms]![frmFossielData]![txtEralID].[Column](1)
>>
>> The form, field en column exist.
>>
>> Pedro Janssen
>>
> -- 



From pedro at plex.nl  Sun Nov 26 04:30:30 2006
From: pedro at plex.nl (Pedro Janssen)
Date: Sun, 26 Nov 2006 11:30:30 +0100
Subject: [AccessD] saving values
References: <006f01c710d8$effbdeb0$6401a8c0@HAL9005>
Message-ID: <000801c71145$e5e2f360$4001a8c0@qmotionfaa3ad9>

Hello,

how would i point to the first record in the Where clausule with the ID?
I am placing values from a unbound form, with no ID in a bound form with an 
ID (= FossielID).


Please give me an idea to do this in the code below?

Pedro Janssen



----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Beach Access Software" <bchacc at san.rr.com>
To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'" 
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Saturday, November 25, 2006 10:30 PM
Subject: Re: [AccessD] saving values


> Pedro:
>
> It looks like you are opening the table with all of the records.  So the
> record pointer of the recor4dset is always pointing to the first record.
> You need to either 1) use a WHERE clause in the Set rs = db.OpenRecordset 
> so
> you get only the record you want, or 2) after opening the recordset use
> rs.FindFirst and specify the primary key of the record you want to update.
> Then the recordset will be positioned at the record you want to update. 
> Be
> sure to use if rs.NoMatch just in case the FindFirst doesn't find the
> record.
>
> Regards,
>
> Rocky
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Pedro Janssen
> Sent: Saturday, November 25, 2006 12:37 PM
> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] saving values
>
> Hello Rocky (and Others),
>
> the code is working fine, but only for the first record on the form.
> When i try to use it on the second record (after closing) it jumps to 
> record
>
> one and overwrite's the data there.
> Trying to put the where statement in it to state that ID = ID, it gives an
> error on record two that it expects parameter = 1.
>
> The code that i use now:
>
> Private Sub Form_Close()
>
> Dim db As DAO.Database
> Dim rs As DAO.Recordset
>
> Set db = CurrentDb
> Set rs = db.OpenRecordset("Select Era, Periode, Epoch, Etage, Tijd FROM
> tblFossielData")
>
> rs.Edit
> rs!Era = cboEra
> rs!Periode = cboPeriode
> rs!Epoch = cboEpoch
> rs!Etage = cboEtage
> rs!Tijd = cboTijd
> rs.Update
>
> rs.Close
> db.Close
>
> Set rs = Nothing
> Set db = Nothing
>
> Me.Requery
>
> End Sub
>
> What can i do about this?
>
> Pedro Janssen
>
>
>
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Beach Access Software" <bchacc at san.rr.com>
> To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'"
> <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
> Sent: Friday, November 24, 2006 9:09 PM
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] saving values
>
>
>> Pedro:
>>
>> Just off the top and untested:
>>
>> Dim db as DAO.Database
>> Dim rs as DAO.Recordset
>>
>> Set db = CurrentDb
>> Set rs = db.OpenRecordset("Select fldOne, fldTwo, fldThree FROM 
>> tblMyTable
>> WHERE fldPK = " & lngPrimaryKey)
>>
>> ' Note: You could use any criteria you want in the WHERE clause; doesn't
>> have to be the primary key.
>>
>> rs.Edit
>> rs!fldOne = cboComboBox1
>> rs!fldTwo = cboComboBox2
>> rs!fldThree = cboComboBox3
>> rs.Update
>>
>> rs.Close
>> db.Close
>>
>> set rs = Nothing
>> set db = Nothing
>>
>> Me.Requery (assuming you want the values to show on the bound form.
>>
>>
>> Or here's another approach which I think should work but I haven't 
>> tested:
>>
>> Set db = CurrentDb
>> Db.Execute "UPDATE tblMyTable SET tblMyTable.fldOne = '" & cboComboBox1 &
>> "', tblMyTable.fldTwo= '" & cboComboBox2 & "', tblMyTable.fldThree = '" &
>> cboComboBox3 & "';"
>>
>> Note that I have assumes that the values are string values and so need to
>> have preceding and following apostrophes.  If the values are numeric then
>> they won't need the '.
>>
>> I'm sure someone else looking at this code will make the appropriate
>> corrections.
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Rocky
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Pedro Janssen
>> Sent: Thursday, November 23, 2006 3:35 PM
>> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
>> Subject: Re: [AccessD] saving values
>>
>> Hello Rocky,
>>
>> could you give me an example of that, preferably in a example database.
>> I have tried several things until now but nothing is working perfect.
>>
>> Pedro Janssen
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Beach Access Software" <bchacc at san.rr.com>
>> To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'"
>> <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
>> Sent: Friday, November 24, 2006 12:07 AM
>> Subject: Re: [AccessD] saving values
>>
>>
>>> I'd use Dao, open the record in question, push the value in, and requery
>>> the
>>> form.
>>>
>>> Rocky
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>>> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Pedro Janssen
>>> Sent: 23 November 2006 13:32
>>> To: AccessD
>>> Subject: [AccessD] saving values
>>>
>>> Hello Group,
>>>
>>> i still have troubles saving values from unbound comboxes (cascade) in
>>> table
>>> fields.
>>>
>>> What is the best way to do this.
>>>
>>> Pedro Janssen
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From artful at rogers.com  Sun Nov 26 04:50:11 2006
From: artful at rogers.com (artful at rogers.com)
Date: Sun, 26 Nov 2006 02:50:11 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [AccessD] saving values
Message-ID: <20061126105011.26166.qmail@web88201.mail.re2.yahoo.com>

One approach is doing it with a static function, setting the value of said function with a form-event and then getting it from the code. Look in the archives for "static functions" for example code.

Arthur

----- Original Message ----
From: Pedro Janssen <pedro at plex.nl>
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Sunday, November 26, 2006 5:30:30 AM
Subject: Re: [AccessD] saving values

Hello,

how would i point to the first record in the Where clausule with the ID?
I am placing values from a unbound form, with no ID in a bound form with an 
ID (= FossielID).


Please give me an idea to do this in the code below?

Pedro Janssen



----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Beach Access Software" <bchacc at san.rr.com>
To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'" 
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Saturday, November 25, 2006 10:30 PM
Subject: Re: [AccessD] saving values


> Pedro:
>
> It looks like you are opening the table with all of the records.  So the
> record pointer of the recor4dset is always pointing to the first record.
> You need to either 1) use a WHERE clause in the Set rs = db.OpenRecordset 
> so
> you get only the record you want, or 2) after opening the recordset use
> rs.FindFirst and specify the primary key of the record you want to update.
> Then the recordset will be positioned at the record you want to update. 
> Be
> sure to use if rs.NoMatch just in case the FindFirst doesn't find the
> record.
>
> Regards,
>
> Rocky
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Pedro Janssen
> Sent: Saturday, November 25, 2006 12:37 PM
> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] saving values
>
> Hello Rocky (and Others),
>
> the code is working fine, but only for the first record on the form.
> When i try to use it on the second record (after closing) it jumps to 
> record
>
> one and overwrite's the data there.
> Trying to put the where statement in it to state that ID = ID, it gives an
> error on record two that it expects parameter = 1.
>
> The code that i use now:
>
> Private Sub Form_Close()
>
> Dim db As DAO.Database
> Dim rs As DAO.Recordset
>
> Set db = CurrentDb
> Set rs = db.OpenRecordset("Select Era, Periode, Epoch, Etage, Tijd FROM
> tblFossielData")
>
> rs.Edit
> rs!Era = cboEra
> rs!Periode = cboPeriode
> rs!Epoch = cboEpoch
> rs!Etage = cboEtage
> rs!Tijd = cboTijd
> rs.Update
>
> rs.Close
> db.Close
>
> Set rs = Nothing
> Set db = Nothing
>
> Me.Requery
>
> End Sub
>
> What can i do about this?
>
> Pedro Janssen
>
>
>
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Beach Access Software" <bchacc at san.rr.com>
> To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'"
> <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
> Sent: Friday, November 24, 2006 9:09 PM
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] saving values
>
>
>> Pedro:
>>
>> Just off the top and untested:
>>
>> Dim db as DAO.Database
>> Dim rs as DAO.Recordset
>>
>> Set db = CurrentDb
>> Set rs = db.OpenRecordset("Select fldOne, fldTwo, fldThree FROM 
>> tblMyTable
>> WHERE fldPK = " & lngPrimaryKey)
>>
>> ' Note: You could use any criteria you want in the WHERE clause; doesn't
>> have to be the primary key.
>>
>> rs.Edit
>> rs!fldOne = cboComboBox1
>> rs!fldTwo = cboComboBox2
>> rs!fldThree = cboComboBox3
>> rs.Update
>>
>> rs.Close
>> db.Close
>>
>> set rs = Nothing
>> set db = Nothing
>>
>> Me.Requery (assuming you want the values to show on the bound form.
>>
>>
>> Or here's another approach which I think should work but I haven't 
>> tested:
>>
>> Set db = CurrentDb
>> Db.Execute "UPDATE tblMyTable SET tblMyTable.fldOne = '" & cboComboBox1 &
>> "', tblMyTable.fldTwo= '" & cboComboBox2 & "', tblMyTable.fldThree = '" &
>> cboComboBox3 & "';"
>>
>> Note that I have assumes that the values are string values and so need to
>> have preceding and following apostrophes.  If the values are numeric then
>> they won't need the '.
>>
>> I'm sure someone else looking at this code will make the appropriate
>> corrections.
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Rocky
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Pedro Janssen
>> Sent: Thursday, November 23, 2006 3:35 PM
>> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
>> Subject: Re: [AccessD] saving values
>>
>> Hello Rocky,
>>
>> could you give me an example of that, preferably in a example database.
>> I have tried several things until now but nothing is working perfect.
>>
>> Pedro Janssen
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Beach Access Software" <bchacc at san.rr.com>
>> To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'"
>> <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
>> Sent: Friday, November 24, 2006 12:07 AM
>> Subject: Re: [AccessD] saving values
>>
>>
>>> I'd use Dao, open the record in question, push the value in, and requery
>>> the
>>> form.
>>>
>>> Rocky
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>>> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Pedro Janssen
>>> Sent: 23 November 2006 13:32
>>> To: AccessD
>>> Subject: [AccessD] saving values
>>>
>>> Hello Group,
>>>
>>> i still have troubles saving values from unbound comboxes (cascade) in
>>> table
>>> fields.
>>>
>>> What is the best way to do this.
>>>
>>> Pedro Janssen
>>> -- 
>>> AccessD mailing list
>>> AccessD at databaseadvisors.com
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>>> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com
>>>
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>>> Checked by AVG Free Edition.
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>>> 22/11/2006
>>> 17:41
>>>
>>>
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>>
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From pedro at plex.nl  Sun Nov 26 05:57:32 2006
From: pedro at plex.nl (Pedro Janssen)
Date: Sun, 26 Nov 2006 12:57:32 +0100
Subject: [AccessD] saving values
References: <20061126105011.26166.qmail@web88201.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <000e01c71152$0e1b2940$4001a8c0@qmotionfaa3ad9>

Hello Arthur,

in your first mail (at the archives) you gave this static function, but 
after a few reply's from others, you agreed to rewrite the template.
Have you done this? I can't find it.

Could you point me in the right direction with your template and my code 
below?

Thanks
Pedro Janssen



----- Original Message ----- 
From: <artful at rogers.com>
To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving" 
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Sunday, November 26, 2006 11:50 AM
Subject: Re: [AccessD] saving values


> One approach is doing it with a static function, setting the value of said 
> function with a form-event and then getting it from the code. Look in the 
> archives for "static functions" for example code.
>
> Arthur
>
> ----- Original Message ----
> From: Pedro Janssen <pedro at plex.nl>
> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving 
> <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
> Sent: Sunday, November 26, 2006 5:30:30 AM
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] saving values
>
> Hello,
>
> how would i point to the first record in the Where clausule with the ID?
> I am placing values from a unbound form, with no ID in a bound form with 
> an
> ID (= FossielID).
>
>
> Please give me an idea to do this in the code below?
>
> Pedro Janssen
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Beach Access Software" <bchacc at san.rr.com>
> To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'"
> <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
> Sent: Saturday, November 25, 2006 10:30 PM
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] saving values
>
>
>> Pedro:
>>
>> It looks like you are opening the table with all of the records.  So the
>> record pointer of the recor4dset is always pointing to the first record.
>> You need to either 1) use a WHERE clause in the Set rs = db.OpenRecordset
>> so
>> you get only the record you want, or 2) after opening the recordset use
>> rs.FindFirst and specify the primary key of the record you want to 
>> update.
>> Then the recordset will be positioned at the record you want to update.
>> Be
>> sure to use if rs.NoMatch just in case the FindFirst doesn't find the
>> record.
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Rocky
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Pedro Janssen
>> Sent: Saturday, November 25, 2006 12:37 PM
>> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
>> Subject: Re: [AccessD] saving values
>>
>> Hello Rocky (and Others),
>>
>> the code is working fine, but only for the first record on the form.
>> When i try to use it on the second record (after closing) it jumps to
>> record
>>
>> one and overwrite's the data there.
>> Trying to put the where statement in it to state that ID = ID, it gives 
>> an
>> error on record two that it expects parameter = 1.
>>
>> The code that i use now:
>>
>> Private Sub Form_Close()
>>
>> Dim db As DAO.Database
>> Dim rs As DAO.Recordset
>>
>> Set db = CurrentDb
>> Set rs = db.OpenRecordset("Select Era, Periode, Epoch, Etage, Tijd FROM
>> tblFossielData")
>>
>> rs.Edit
>> rs!Era = cboEra
>> rs!Periode = cboPeriode
>> rs!Epoch = cboEpoch
>> rs!Etage = cboEtage
>> rs!Tijd = cboTijd
>> rs.Update
>>
>> rs.Close
>> db.Close
>>
>> Set rs = Nothing
>> Set db = Nothing
>>
>> Me.Requery
>>
>> End Sub
>>
>> What can i do about this?
>>
>> Pedro Janssen
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Beach Access Software" <bchacc at san.rr.com>
>> To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'"
>> <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
>> Sent: Friday, November 24, 2006 9:09 PM
>> Subject: Re: [AccessD] saving values
>>
>>
>>> Pedro:
>>>
>>> Just off the top and untested:
>>>
>>> Dim db as DAO.Database
>>> Dim rs as DAO.Recordset
>>>
>>> Set db = CurrentDb
>>> Set rs = db.OpenRecordset("Select fldOne, fldTwo, fldThree FROM
>>> tblMyTable
>>> WHERE fldPK = " & lngPrimaryKey)
>>>
>>> ' Note: You could use any criteria you want in the WHERE clause; doesn't
>>> have to be the primary key.
>>>
>>> rs.Edit
>>> rs!fldOne = cboComboBox1
>>> rs!fldTwo = cboComboBox2
>>> rs!fldThree = cboComboBox3
>>> rs.Update
>>>
>>> rs.Close
>>> db.Close
>>>
>>> set rs = Nothing
>>> set db = Nothing
>>>
>>> Me.Requery (assuming you want the values to show on the bound form.
>>>
>>>
>>> Or here's another approach which I think should work but I haven't
>>> tested:
>>>
>>> Set db = CurrentDb
>>> Db.Execute "UPDATE tblMyTable SET tblMyTable.fldOne = '" & cboComboBox1 
>>> &
>>> "', tblMyTable.fldTwo= '" & cboComboBox2 & "', tblMyTable.fldThree = '" 
>>> &
>>> cboComboBox3 & "';"
>>>
>>> Note that I have assumes that the values are string values and so need 
>>> to
>>> have preceding and following apostrophes.  If the values are numeric 
>>> then
>>> they won't need the '.
>>>
>>> I'm sure someone else looking at this code will make the appropriate
>>> corrections.
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>>
>>> Rocky
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>>> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Pedro Janssen
>>> Sent: Thursday, November 23, 2006 3:35 PM
>>> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
>>> Subject: Re: [AccessD] saving values
>>>
>>> Hello Rocky,
>>>
>>> could you give me an example of that, preferably in a example database.
>>> I have tried several things until now but nothing is working perfect.
>>>
>>> Pedro Janssen
>>>
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>> From: "Beach Access Software" <bchacc at san.rr.com>
>>> To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'"
>>> <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
>>> Sent: Friday, November 24, 2006 12:07 AM
>>> Subject: Re: [AccessD] saving values
>>>
>>>
>>>> I'd use Dao, open the record in question, push the value in, and 
>>>> requery
>>>> the
>>>> form.
>>>>
>>>> Rocky
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>>>> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Pedro 
>>>> Janssen
>>>> Sent: 23 November 2006 13:32
>>>> To: AccessD
>>>> Subject: [AccessD] saving values
>>>>
>>>> Hello Group,
>>>>
>>>> i still have troubles saving values from unbound comboxes (cascade) in
>>>> table
>>>> fields.
>>>>
>>>> What is the best way to do this.
>>>>
>>>> Pedro Janssen
>>>> -- 
>>>> AccessD mailing list
>>>> AccessD at databaseadvisors.com
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>>>> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com
>>>>
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>>>> Checked by AVG Free Edition.
>>>> Version: 7.5.430 / Virus Database: 268.14.14/547 - Release Date:
>>>> 22/11/2006
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>>>>
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>>>
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From dwaters at usinternet.com  Sun Nov 26 15:38:10 2006
From: dwaters at usinternet.com (Dan Waters)
Date: Sun, 26 Nov 2006 15:38:10 -0600
Subject: [AccessD] Table Relationships
Message-ID: <000d01c711a3$2c4836a0$0200a8c0@danwaters>

I currently have some apparently 'ghost' tables in my table relationships
view.

For example I show tblPeopleMain_1 in addition to tblPeopleMain.  There is
no actual tblPeopleMain_1, but its ghost redisplays every time I reopen the
table relationships window.

How do I get rid of this?

Thanks!
Dan Waters



From stuart at lexacorp.com.pg  Sun Nov 26 15:51:01 2006
From: stuart at lexacorp.com.pg (Stuart McLachlan)
Date: Mon, 27 Nov 2006 07:51:01 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] Table Relationships
In-Reply-To: <000d01c711a3$2c4836a0$0200a8c0@danwaters>
References: <000d01c711a3$2c4836a0$0200a8c0@danwaters>
Message-ID: <456A0C45.22865.12B320D2@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>

On 26 Nov 2006 at 15:38, Dan Waters wrote:

> I currently have some apparently 'ghost' tables in my table relationships
> view.
> 
> For example I show tblPeopleMain_1 in addition to tblPeopleMain.  There is
> no actual tblPeopleMain_1, but its ghost redisplays every time I reopen the
> table relationships window.

That is just a second instance of tblPeopleMain which you have opened in 
the Relationships Window.  Just click on it and hit "Del".



 -- 
Stuart




From dwaters at usinternet.com  Sun Nov 26 18:39:57 2006
From: dwaters at usinternet.com (Dan Waters)
Date: Sun, 26 Nov 2006 18:39:57 -0600
Subject: [AccessD] Table Relationships
In-Reply-To: <25771870.1164578213478.JavaMail.root@Sniper26>
Message-ID: <001601c711bc$90c8a1a0$0200a8c0@danwaters>

Hi Stuart,

Well - I did that but the duplicate instances were there again after I
repaired, compacted & closed the database and reopened it.

Is there anything else that might work?  

Dan Waters


-----Original Message-----
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Table Relationships

On 26 Nov 2006 at 15:38, Dan Waters wrote:

> I currently have some apparently 'ghost' tables in my table relationships
> view.
> 
> For example I show tblPeopleMain_1 in addition to tblPeopleMain.  There is
> no actual tblPeopleMain_1, but its ghost redisplays every time I reopen
the
> table relationships window.

That is just a second instance of tblPeopleMain which you have opened in 
the Relationships Window.  Just click on it and hit "Del".



 -- 
Stuart




From gwsmith at iowatelecom.net  Sun Nov 26 18:52:32 2006
From: gwsmith at iowatelecom.net (Greg Smith)
Date: Sun, 26 Nov 2006 18:52:32 -0600
Subject: [AccessD] Table Relationships
In-Reply-To: <001601c711bc$90c8a1a0$0200a8c0@danwaters>
Message-ID: <001801c711be$54dfa5b0$6401a8c0@dads>

Dan:

Does the 'ghost' table have a relationship (or an apparent one)?  If so, you
may have to delete it first, then delete the ghost table, and then save the
relationships.  That's always gotten rid of the ones I occasionally get.

Greg 

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Dan Waters
Sent: Sunday, November 26, 2006 6:40 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Table Relationships

Hi Stuart,

Well - I did that but the duplicate instances were there again after I
repaired, compacted & closed the database and reopened it.

Is there anything else that might work?  

Dan Waters




From forefront at ig.com.br  Sun Nov 26 19:10:14 2006
From: forefront at ig.com.br (forefront)
Date: Sun, 26 Nov 2006 22:10:14 -0300
Subject: [AccessD] A2K - Disappearing menu and toolbar in Module Design
Message-ID: <20061127_011014_061812.forefront@ig.com.br>

Thanks for your answer, but now I know the problem. It is called Windows XP 
Starter Edition... :( 

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From bchacc at san.rr.com  Sun Nov 26 19:59:32 2006
From: bchacc at san.rr.com (Beach Access Software)
Date: Sun, 26 Nov 2006 17:59:32 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] saving values
In-Reply-To: <000801c71145$e5e2f360$4001a8c0@qmotionfaa3ad9>
Message-ID: <007a01c711c7$ae666a20$6401a8c0@HAL9005>

Pedro:

You need to add the WHERE clause to your set statement:

Set rs = db.OpenRecordset("Select Era, Periode, Epoch, Etage, Tijd FROM
tblFossielData WHERE tblFossielDataPrimaryKey = " & lngKeyValue)

Do you know what the primary key value is of the record you want to update
with the values from the unbound text boxes?

Rocky



-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Pedro Janssen
Sent: Sunday, November 26, 2006 2:31 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] saving values

Hello,

how would i point to the first record in the Where clausule with the ID?
I am placing values from a unbound form, with no ID in a bound form with an 
ID (= FossielID).


Please give me an idea to do this in the code below?

Pedro Janssen



----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Beach Access Software" <bchacc at san.rr.com>
To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'" 
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Saturday, November 25, 2006 10:30 PM
Subject: Re: [AccessD] saving values


> Pedro:
>
> It looks like you are opening the table with all of the records.  So the
> record pointer of the recor4dset is always pointing to the first record.
> You need to either 1) use a WHERE clause in the Set rs = db.OpenRecordset 
> so
> you get only the record you want, or 2) after opening the recordset use
> rs.FindFirst and specify the primary key of the record you want to update.
> Then the recordset will be positioned at the record you want to update. 
> Be
> sure to use if rs.NoMatch just in case the FindFirst doesn't find the
> record.
>
> Regards,
>
> Rocky
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Pedro Janssen
> Sent: Saturday, November 25, 2006 12:37 PM
> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] saving values
>
> Hello Rocky (and Others),
>
> the code is working fine, but only for the first record on the form.
> When i try to use it on the second record (after closing) it jumps to 
> record
>
> one and overwrite's the data there.
> Trying to put the where statement in it to state that ID = ID, it gives an
> error on record two that it expects parameter = 1.
>
> The code that i use now:
>
> Private Sub Form_Close()
>
> Dim db As DAO.Database
> Dim rs As DAO.Recordset
>
> Set db = CurrentDb
> Set rs = db.OpenRecordset("Select Era, Periode, Epoch, Etage, Tijd FROM
> tblFossielData")
>
> rs.Edit
> rs!Era = cboEra
> rs!Periode = cboPeriode
> rs!Epoch = cboEpoch
> rs!Etage = cboEtage
> rs!Tijd = cboTijd
> rs.Update
>
> rs.Close
> db.Close
>
> Set rs = Nothing
> Set db = Nothing
>
> Me.Requery
>
> End Sub
>
> What can i do about this?
>
> Pedro Janssen
>
>
>
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Beach Access Software" <bchacc at san.rr.com>
> To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'"
> <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
> Sent: Friday, November 24, 2006 9:09 PM
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] saving values
>
>
>> Pedro:
>>
>> Just off the top and untested:
>>
>> Dim db as DAO.Database
>> Dim rs as DAO.Recordset
>>
>> Set db = CurrentDb
>> Set rs = db.OpenRecordset("Select fldOne, fldTwo, fldThree FROM 
>> tblMyTable
>> WHERE fldPK = " & lngPrimaryKey)
>>
>> ' Note: You could use any criteria you want in the WHERE clause; doesn't
>> have to be the primary key.
>>
>> rs.Edit
>> rs!fldOne = cboComboBox1
>> rs!fldTwo = cboComboBox2
>> rs!fldThree = cboComboBox3
>> rs.Update
>>
>> rs.Close
>> db.Close
>>
>> set rs = Nothing
>> set db = Nothing
>>
>> Me.Requery (assuming you want the values to show on the bound form.
>>
>>
>> Or here's another approach which I think should work but I haven't 
>> tested:
>>
>> Set db = CurrentDb
>> Db.Execute "UPDATE tblMyTable SET tblMyTable.fldOne = '" & cboComboBox1 &
>> "', tblMyTable.fldTwo= '" & cboComboBox2 & "', tblMyTable.fldThree = '" &
>> cboComboBox3 & "';"
>>
>> Note that I have assumes that the values are string values and so need to
>> have preceding and following apostrophes.  If the values are numeric then
>> they won't need the '.
>>
>> I'm sure someone else looking at this code will make the appropriate
>> corrections.
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Rocky
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Pedro Janssen
>> Sent: Thursday, November 23, 2006 3:35 PM
>> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
>> Subject: Re: [AccessD] saving values
>>
>> Hello Rocky,
>>
>> could you give me an example of that, preferably in a example database.
>> I have tried several things until now but nothing is working perfect.
>>
>> Pedro Janssen
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Beach Access Software" <bchacc at san.rr.com>
>> To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'"
>> <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
>> Sent: Friday, November 24, 2006 12:07 AM
>> Subject: Re: [AccessD] saving values
>>
>>
>>> I'd use Dao, open the record in question, push the value in, and requery
>>> the
>>> form.
>>>
>>> Rocky
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>>> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Pedro Janssen
>>> Sent: 23 November 2006 13:32
>>> To: AccessD
>>> Subject: [AccessD] saving values
>>>
>>> Hello Group,
>>>
>>> i still have troubles saving values from unbound comboxes (cascade) in
>>> table
>>> fields.
>>>
>>> What is the best way to do this.
>>>
>>> Pedro Janssen
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From dwaters at usinternet.com  Sun Nov 26 20:06:53 2006
From: dwaters at usinternet.com (Dan Waters)
Date: Sun, 26 Nov 2006 20:06:53 -0600
Subject: [AccessD] Table Relationships
In-Reply-To: <13278171.1164588993796.JavaMail.root@sniper11>
Message-ID: <000301c711c8$b5cf46a0$0200a8c0@danwaters>

That was it!

Thanks Greg - I was getting a little spooked!

Dan Waters

-----Original Message-----
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Table Relationships

Dan:

Does the 'ghost' table have a relationship (or an apparent one)?  If so, you
may have to delete it first, then delete the ghost table, and then save the
relationships.  That's always gotten rid of the ones I occasionally get.

Greg 

-----Original Message-----
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Table Relationships

Hi Stuart,

Well - I did that but the duplicate instances were there again after I
repaired, compacted & closed the database and reopened it.

Is there anything else that might work?  

Dan Waters




From Gustav at cactus.dk  Mon Nov 27 02:25:04 2006
From: Gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Mon, 27 Nov 2006 09:25:04 +0100
Subject: [AccessD] Table Relationships
Message-ID: <s56aaf03.036@cactus.dk>

Hi

Maybe. 
It was not a "ghost" table. If you had more than one relation to a table, the second and third are by default named _1, _2 and so on. 
Now that second relation is lost. 

/gustav

>>> dwaters at usinternet.com 27-11-2006 03:06 >>>
That was it!

Thanks Greg - I was getting a little spooked!

Dan Waters

-----Original Message-----
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Table Relationships

Dan:

Does the 'ghost' table have a relationship (or an apparent one)?  If so, you
may have to delete it first, then delete the ghost table, and then save the
relationships.  That's always gotten rid of the ones I occasionally get.

Greg 



From pedro at plex.nl  Mon Nov 27 08:54:37 2006
From: pedro at plex.nl (Pedro Janssen)
Date: Mon, 27 Nov 2006 15:54:37 +0100
Subject: [AccessD] saving values
References: <007a01c711c7$ae666a20$6401a8c0@HAL9005>
Message-ID: <000601c71233$f5d900e0$4001a8c0@qmotionfaa3ad9>

Hello Rocky,

i included the Where statement, but get an eror when closing the subform 
with the code:
Runtime error 3201, no current record.
When clicking debug button, rs!edit is highlited yellow.

I used help, but still do not understand it.

Pedro Janssen




----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Beach Access Software" <bchacc at san.rr.com>
To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'" 
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Monday, November 27, 2006 2:59 AM
Subject: Re: [AccessD] saving values


> Pedro:
>
> You need to add the WHERE clause to your set statement:
>
> Set rs = db.OpenRecordset("Select Era, Periode, Epoch, Etage, Tijd FROM
> tblFossielData WHERE tblFossielDataPrimaryKey = " & lngKeyValue)
>
> Do you know what the primary key value is of the record you want to update
> with the values from the unbound text boxes?
>
> Rocky
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Pedro Janssen
> Sent: Sunday, November 26, 2006 2:31 AM
> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] saving values
>
> Hello,
>
> how would i point to the first record in the Where clausule with the ID?
> I am placing values from a unbound form, with no ID in a bound form with 
> an
> ID (= FossielID).
>
>
> Please give me an idea to do this in the code below?
>
> Pedro Janssen
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Beach Access Software" <bchacc at san.rr.com>
> To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'"
> <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
> Sent: Saturday, November 25, 2006 10:30 PM
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] saving values
>
>
>> Pedro:
>>
>> It looks like you are opening the table with all of the records.  So the
>> record pointer of the recor4dset is always pointing to the first record.
>> You need to either 1) use a WHERE clause in the Set rs = db.OpenRecordset
>> so
>> you get only the record you want, or 2) after opening the recordset use
>> rs.FindFirst and specify the primary key of the record you want to 
>> update.
>> Then the recordset will be positioned at the record you want to update.
>> Be
>> sure to use if rs.NoMatch just in case the FindFirst doesn't find the
>> record.
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Rocky
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Pedro Janssen
>> Sent: Saturday, November 25, 2006 12:37 PM
>> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
>> Subject: Re: [AccessD] saving values
>>
>> Hello Rocky (and Others),
>>
>> the code is working fine, but only for the first record on the form.
>> When i try to use it on the second record (after closing) it jumps to
>> record
>>
>> one and overwrite's the data there.
>> Trying to put the where statement in it to state that ID = ID, it gives 
>> an
>> error on record two that it expects parameter = 1.
>>
>> The code that i use now:
>>
>> Private Sub Form_Close()
>>
>> Dim db As DAO.Database
>> Dim rs As DAO.Recordset
>>
>> Set db = CurrentDb
>> Set rs = db.OpenRecordset("Select Era, Periode, Epoch, Etage, Tijd FROM
>> tblFossielData")
>>
>> rs.Edit
>> rs!Era = cboEra
>> rs!Periode = cboPeriode
>> rs!Epoch = cboEpoch
>> rs!Etage = cboEtage
>> rs!Tijd = cboTijd
>> rs.Update
>>
>> rs.Close
>> db.Close
>>
>> Set rs = Nothing
>> Set db = Nothing
>>
>> Me.Requery
>>
>> End Sub
>>
>> What can i do about this?
>>
>> Pedro Janssen
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Beach Access Software" <bchacc at san.rr.com>
>> To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'"
>> <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
>> Sent: Friday, November 24, 2006 9:09 PM
>> Subject: Re: [AccessD] saving values
>>
>>
>>> Pedro:
>>>
>>> Just off the top and untested:
>>>
>>> Dim db as DAO.Database
>>> Dim rs as DAO.Recordset
>>>
>>> Set db = CurrentDb
>>> Set rs = db.OpenRecordset("Select fldOne, fldTwo, fldThree FROM
>>> tblMyTable
>>> WHERE fldPK = " & lngPrimaryKey)
>>>
>>> ' Note: You could use any criteria you want in the WHERE clause; doesn't
>>> have to be the primary key.
>>>
>>> rs.Edit
>>> rs!fldOne = cboComboBox1
>>> rs!fldTwo = cboComboBox2
>>> rs!fldThree = cboComboBox3
>>> rs.Update
>>>
>>> rs.Close
>>> db.Close
>>>
>>> set rs = Nothing
>>> set db = Nothing
>>>
>>> Me.Requery (assuming you want the values to show on the bound form.
>>>
>>>
>>> Or here's another approach which I think should work but I haven't
>>> tested:
>>>
>>> Set db = CurrentDb
>>> Db.Execute "UPDATE tblMyTable SET tblMyTable.fldOne = '" & cboComboBox1 
>>> &
>>> "', tblMyTable.fldTwo= '" & cboComboBox2 & "', tblMyTable.fldThree = '" 
>>> &
>>> cboComboBox3 & "';"
>>>
>>> Note that I have assumes that the values are string values and so need 
>>> to
>>> have preceding and following apostrophes.  If the values are numeric 
>>> then
>>> they won't need the '.
>>>
>>> I'm sure someone else looking at this code will make the appropriate
>>> corrections.
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>>
>>> Rocky
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>>> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Pedro Janssen
>>> Sent: Thursday, November 23, 2006 3:35 PM
>>> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
>>> Subject: Re: [AccessD] saving values
>>>
>>> Hello Rocky,
>>>
>>> could you give me an example of that, preferably in a example database.
>>> I have tried several things until now but nothing is working perfect.
>>>
>>> Pedro Janssen
>>>
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>> From: "Beach Access Software" <bchacc at san.rr.com>
>>> To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'"
>>> <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
>>> Sent: Friday, November 24, 2006 12:07 AM
>>> Subject: Re: [AccessD] saving values
>>>
>>>
>>>> I'd use Dao, open the record in question, push the value in, and 
>>>> requery
>>>> the
>>>> form.
>>>>
>>>> Rocky
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>>>> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Pedro 
>>>> Janssen
>>>> Sent: 23 November 2006 13:32
>>>> To: AccessD
>>>> Subject: [AccessD] saving values
>>>>
>>>> Hello Group,
>>>>
>>>> i still have troubles saving values from unbound comboxes (cascade) in
>>>> table
>>>> fields.
>>>>
>>>> What is the best way to do this.
>>>>
>>>> Pedro Janssen
>>>> -- 
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>>>> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com
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From dwaters at usinternet.com  Mon Nov 27 09:04:37 2006
From: dwaters at usinternet.com (Dan Waters)
Date: Mon, 27 Nov 2006 09:04:37 -0600
Subject: [AccessD] Table Relationships
In-Reply-To: <32464957.1164616329996.JavaMail.root@sniper25>
Message-ID: <001401c71235$5b9dbfa0$0200a8c0@danwaters>

Thanks Gustav - that's good to know.

With what I was looking at, it was truly a duplicate relationship and was
not needed.

Dan Waters

-----Original Message-----
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Table Relationships

Hi

Maybe. 
It was not a "ghost" table. If you had more than one relation to a table,
the second and third are by default named _1, _2 and so on. 
Now that second relation is lost. 

/gustav

>>> dwaters at usinternet.com 27-11-2006 03:06 >>>
That was it!

Thanks Greg - I was getting a little spooked!

Dan Waters

-----Original Message-----
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Table Relationships

Dan:

Does the 'ghost' table have a relationship (or an apparent one)?  If so, you
may have to delete it first, then delete the ghost table, and then save the
relationships.  That's always gotten rid of the ones I occasionally get.

Greg 




From dwaters at usinternet.com  Mon Nov 27 09:27:34 2006
From: dwaters at usinternet.com (Dan Waters)
Date: Mon, 27 Nov 2006 09:27:34 -0600
Subject: [AccessD] saving values
In-Reply-To: <12132737.1164640754292.JavaMail.root@Sniper26>
Message-ID: <004301c71238$9057a500$0200a8c0@danwaters>

Try rs.edit instead of rs!edit.

Dan Waters


-----Original Message-----
Subject: Re: [AccessD] saving values

Hello Rocky,

i included the Where statement, but get an eror when closing the subform 
with the code:
Runtime error 3201, no current record.
When clicking debug button, rs!edit is highlited yellow.

I used help, but still do not understand it.

Pedro Janssen




----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Beach Access Software" <bchacc at san.rr.com>
To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'" 
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Monday, November 27, 2006 2:59 AM
Subject: Re: [AccessD] saving values


> Pedro:
>
> You need to add the WHERE clause to your set statement:
>
> Set rs = db.OpenRecordset("Select Era, Periode, Epoch, Etage, Tijd FROM
> tblFossielData WHERE tblFossielDataPrimaryKey = " & lngKeyValue)
>
> Do you know what the primary key value is of the record you want to update
> with the values from the unbound text boxes?
>
> Rocky
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Pedro Janssen
> Sent: Sunday, November 26, 2006 2:31 AM
> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] saving values
>
> Hello,
>
> how would i point to the first record in the Where clausule with the ID?
> I am placing values from a unbound form, with no ID in a bound form with 
> an
> ID (= FossielID).
>
>
> Please give me an idea to do this in the code below?
>
> Pedro Janssen
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Beach Access Software" <bchacc at san.rr.com>
> To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'"
> <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
> Sent: Saturday, November 25, 2006 10:30 PM
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] saving values
>
>
>> Pedro:
>>
>> It looks like you are opening the table with all of the records.  So the
>> record pointer of the recor4dset is always pointing to the first record.
>> You need to either 1) use a WHERE clause in the Set rs = db.OpenRecordset
>> so
>> you get only the record you want, or 2) after opening the recordset use
>> rs.FindFirst and specify the primary key of the record you want to 
>> update.
>> Then the recordset will be positioned at the record you want to update.
>> Be
>> sure to use if rs.NoMatch just in case the FindFirst doesn't find the
>> record.
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Rocky
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Pedro Janssen
>> Sent: Saturday, November 25, 2006 12:37 PM
>> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
>> Subject: Re: [AccessD] saving values
>>
>> Hello Rocky (and Others),
>>
>> the code is working fine, but only for the first record on the form.
>> When i try to use it on the second record (after closing) it jumps to
>> record
>>
>> one and overwrite's the data there.
>> Trying to put the where statement in it to state that ID = ID, it gives 
>> an
>> error on record two that it expects parameter = 1.
>>
>> The code that i use now:
>>
>> Private Sub Form_Close()
>>
>> Dim db As DAO.Database
>> Dim rs As DAO.Recordset
>>
>> Set db = CurrentDb
>> Set rs = db.OpenRecordset("Select Era, Periode, Epoch, Etage, Tijd FROM
>> tblFossielData")
>>
>> rs.Edit
>> rs!Era = cboEra
>> rs!Periode = cboPeriode
>> rs!Epoch = cboEpoch
>> rs!Etage = cboEtage
>> rs!Tijd = cboTijd
>> rs.Update
>>
>> rs.Close
>> db.Close
>>
>> Set rs = Nothing
>> Set db = Nothing
>>
>> Me.Requery
>>
>> End Sub
>>
>> What can i do about this?
>>
>> Pedro Janssen
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Beach Access Software" <bchacc at san.rr.com>
>> To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'"
>> <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
>> Sent: Friday, November 24, 2006 9:09 PM
>> Subject: Re: [AccessD] saving values
>>
>>
>>> Pedro:
>>>
>>> Just off the top and untested:
>>>
>>> Dim db as DAO.Database
>>> Dim rs as DAO.Recordset
>>>
>>> Set db = CurrentDb
>>> Set rs = db.OpenRecordset("Select fldOne, fldTwo, fldThree FROM
>>> tblMyTable
>>> WHERE fldPK = " & lngPrimaryKey)
>>>
>>> ' Note: You could use any criteria you want in the WHERE clause; doesn't
>>> have to be the primary key.
>>>
>>> rs.Edit
>>> rs!fldOne = cboComboBox1
>>> rs!fldTwo = cboComboBox2
>>> rs!fldThree = cboComboBox3
>>> rs.Update
>>>
>>> rs.Close
>>> db.Close
>>>
>>> set rs = Nothing
>>> set db = Nothing
>>>
>>> Me.Requery (assuming you want the values to show on the bound form.
>>>
>>>
>>> Or here's another approach which I think should work but I haven't
>>> tested:
>>>
>>> Set db = CurrentDb
>>> Db.Execute "UPDATE tblMyTable SET tblMyTable.fldOne = '" & cboComboBox1 
>>> &
>>> "', tblMyTable.fldTwo= '" & cboComboBox2 & "', tblMyTable.fldThree = '" 
>>> &
>>> cboComboBox3 & "';"
>>>
>>> Note that I have assumes that the values are string values and so need 
>>> to
>>> have preceding and following apostrophes.  If the values are numeric 
>>> then
>>> they won't need the '.
>>>
>>> I'm sure someone else looking at this code will make the appropriate
>>> corrections.
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>>
>>> Rocky
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>>> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Pedro Janssen
>>> Sent: Thursday, November 23, 2006 3:35 PM
>>> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
>>> Subject: Re: [AccessD] saving values
>>>
>>> Hello Rocky,
>>>
>>> could you give me an example of that, preferably in a example database.
>>> I have tried several things until now but nothing is working perfect.
>>>
>>> Pedro Janssen
>>>
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>> From: "Beach Access Software" <bchacc at san.rr.com>
>>> To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'"
>>> <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
>>> Sent: Friday, November 24, 2006 12:07 AM
>>> Subject: Re: [AccessD] saving values
>>>
>>>
>>>> I'd use Dao, open the record in question, push the value in, and 
>>>> requery
>>>> the
>>>> form.
>>>>
>>>> Rocky
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
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>>>> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Pedro 
>>>> Janssen
>>>> Sent: 23 November 2006 13:32
>>>> To: AccessD
>>>> Subject: [AccessD] saving values
>>>>
>>>> Hello Group,
>>>>
>>>> i still have troubles saving values from unbound comboxes (cascade) in
>>>> table
>>>> fields.
>>>>
>>>> What is the best way to do this.
>>>>
>>>> Pedro Janssen
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From bchacc at san.rr.com  Mon Nov 27 09:39:55 2006
From: bchacc at san.rr.com (Beach Access Software)
Date: Mon, 27 Nov 2006 07:39:55 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] saving values
In-Reply-To: <000601c71233$f5d900e0$4001a8c0@qmotionfaa3ad9>
Message-ID: <001101c7123a$49d88c00$6401a8c0@HAL9005>

Pedro:

Just a guess but perhaps using the WHERE clause returns no records because
the value for the PK you're using is invalid.

After the set rs = statement put

	If rs.bof=true and rs.eof=true then 
		Msgbox "Holy Moly!  There's No Records In Here!!! - " &
lngKeyValue
		Exit sub
	End if

To see if that's the case and what the value is of the key you're apssing.

Post the set rs = statement and let's have a look at it.

Regards,

Rocky


If it is then 
-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Pedro Janssen
Sent: Monday, November 27, 2006 6:55 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] saving values

Hello Rocky,

i included the Where statement, but get an eror when closing the subform 
with the code:
Runtime error 3201, no current record.
When clicking debug button, rs!edit is highlited yellow.

I used help, but still do not understand it.

Pedro Janssen




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From: "Beach Access Software" <bchacc at san.rr.com>
To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'" 
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Monday, November 27, 2006 2:59 AM
Subject: Re: [AccessD] saving values


> Pedro:
>
> You need to add the WHERE clause to your set statement:
>
> Set rs = db.OpenRecordset("Select Era, Periode, Epoch, Etage, Tijd FROM
> tblFossielData WHERE tblFossielDataPrimaryKey = " & lngKeyValue)
>
> Do you know what the primary key value is of the record you want to update
> with the values from the unbound text boxes?
>
> Rocky
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Pedro Janssen
> Sent: Sunday, November 26, 2006 2:31 AM
> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] saving values
>
> Hello,
>
> how would i point to the first record in the Where clausule with the ID?
> I am placing values from a unbound form, with no ID in a bound form with 
> an
> ID (= FossielID).
>
>
> Please give me an idea to do this in the code below?
>
> Pedro Janssen
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Beach Access Software" <bchacc at san.rr.com>
> To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'"
> <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
> Sent: Saturday, November 25, 2006 10:30 PM
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] saving values
>
>
>> Pedro:
>>
>> It looks like you are opening the table with all of the records.  So the
>> record pointer of the recor4dset is always pointing to the first record.
>> You need to either 1) use a WHERE clause in the Set rs = db.OpenRecordset
>> so
>> you get only the record you want, or 2) after opening the recordset use
>> rs.FindFirst and specify the primary key of the record you want to 
>> update.
>> Then the recordset will be positioned at the record you want to update.
>> Be
>> sure to use if rs.NoMatch just in case the FindFirst doesn't find the
>> record.
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Rocky
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Pedro Janssen
>> Sent: Saturday, November 25, 2006 12:37 PM
>> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
>> Subject: Re: [AccessD] saving values
>>
>> Hello Rocky (and Others),
>>
>> the code is working fine, but only for the first record on the form.
>> When i try to use it on the second record (after closing) it jumps to
>> record
>>
>> one and overwrite's the data there.
>> Trying to put the where statement in it to state that ID = ID, it gives 
>> an
>> error on record two that it expects parameter = 1.
>>
>> The code that i use now:
>>
>> Private Sub Form_Close()
>>
>> Dim db As DAO.Database
>> Dim rs As DAO.Recordset
>>
>> Set db = CurrentDb
>> Set rs = db.OpenRecordset("Select Era, Periode, Epoch, Etage, Tijd FROM
>> tblFossielData")
>>
>> rs.Edit
>> rs!Era = cboEra
>> rs!Periode = cboPeriode
>> rs!Epoch = cboEpoch
>> rs!Etage = cboEtage
>> rs!Tijd = cboTijd
>> rs.Update
>>
>> rs.Close
>> db.Close
>>
>> Set rs = Nothing
>> Set db = Nothing
>>
>> Me.Requery
>>
>> End Sub
>>
>> What can i do about this?
>>
>> Pedro Janssen
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Beach Access Software" <bchacc at san.rr.com>
>> To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'"
>> <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
>> Sent: Friday, November 24, 2006 9:09 PM
>> Subject: Re: [AccessD] saving values
>>
>>
>>> Pedro:
>>>
>>> Just off the top and untested:
>>>
>>> Dim db as DAO.Database
>>> Dim rs as DAO.Recordset
>>>
>>> Set db = CurrentDb
>>> Set rs = db.OpenRecordset("Select fldOne, fldTwo, fldThree FROM
>>> tblMyTable
>>> WHERE fldPK = " & lngPrimaryKey)
>>>
>>> ' Note: You could use any criteria you want in the WHERE clause; doesn't
>>> have to be the primary key.
>>>
>>> rs.Edit
>>> rs!fldOne = cboComboBox1
>>> rs!fldTwo = cboComboBox2
>>> rs!fldThree = cboComboBox3
>>> rs.Update
>>>
>>> rs.Close
>>> db.Close
>>>
>>> set rs = Nothing
>>> set db = Nothing
>>>
>>> Me.Requery (assuming you want the values to show on the bound form.
>>>
>>>
>>> Or here's another approach which I think should work but I haven't
>>> tested:
>>>
>>> Set db = CurrentDb
>>> Db.Execute "UPDATE tblMyTable SET tblMyTable.fldOne = '" & cboComboBox1 
>>> &
>>> "', tblMyTable.fldTwo= '" & cboComboBox2 & "', tblMyTable.fldThree = '" 
>>> &
>>> cboComboBox3 & "';"
>>>
>>> Note that I have assumes that the values are string values and so need 
>>> to
>>> have preceding and following apostrophes.  If the values are numeric 
>>> then
>>> they won't need the '.
>>>
>>> I'm sure someone else looking at this code will make the appropriate
>>> corrections.
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>>
>>> Rocky
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>>> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Pedro Janssen
>>> Sent: Thursday, November 23, 2006 3:35 PM
>>> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
>>> Subject: Re: [AccessD] saving values
>>>
>>> Hello Rocky,
>>>
>>> could you give me an example of that, preferably in a example database.
>>> I have tried several things until now but nothing is working perfect.
>>>
>>> Pedro Janssen
>>>
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>> From: "Beach Access Software" <bchacc at san.rr.com>
>>> To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'"
>>> <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
>>> Sent: Friday, November 24, 2006 12:07 AM
>>> Subject: Re: [AccessD] saving values
>>>
>>>
>>>> I'd use Dao, open the record in question, push the value in, and 
>>>> requery
>>>> the
>>>> form.
>>>>
>>>> Rocky
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>>>> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Pedro 
>>>> Janssen
>>>> Sent: 23 November 2006 13:32
>>>> To: AccessD
>>>> Subject: [AccessD] saving values
>>>>
>>>> Hello Group,
>>>>
>>>> i still have troubles saving values from unbound comboxes (cascade) in
>>>> table
>>>> fields.
>>>>
>>>> What is the best way to do this.
>>>>
>>>> Pedro Janssen
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From gwsmith at iowatelecom.net  Mon Nov 27 11:40:51 2006
From: gwsmith at iowatelecom.net (gwsmith at iowatelecom.net)
Date: Mon, 27 Nov 2006 11:40:51 -0600 (CST)
Subject: [AccessD]  XML Import Sample File
In-Reply-To: <004301c71238$9057a500$0200a8c0@danwaters>
References: <12132737.1164640754292.JavaMail.root@Sniper26>
	<004301c71238$9057a500$0200a8c0@danwaters>
Message-ID: <1520.65.118.249.214.1164649251.squirrel@webmail.iowatelecom.net>

Shamil:

Thanks again for the sample file code, by the way.

The first two functions, XmlImportTest1() and XmlImportTest2() both work
just fine.  However, when I try to test XmlImportTest3() or
XmlImportTest4(), I get the following error:

  Run Time Error '429'
  Active X Component Can't Create Object

and the following line of code is highlighted as the culprit:

  obj.ImportData CurrentDb, "Shippers", Array _
    ("CompanyName", "Phone"), mcstrXml1FullPath2

where ...FullPath1 is for ...Test3() and ...FullPath2 is for ...Test4().

I have the sneaky feeling I don't have something installed or properly
referenced, but I'm not sure what.

Any suggestions?

Thanks!

Greg Smith



From bheygood at abestsystems.com  Mon Nov 27 13:23:49 2006
From: bheygood at abestsystems.com (Bob Heygood)
Date: Mon, 27 Nov 2006 11:23:49 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] DAO Fiekd Name String/Variable
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Hello to the list,

I woild like to:
1. get a value from one table as a string
2. lookup the value of a field in a second table 
where the field name = the value of field in table 1
Using !s if possible.

TIA

best 


Bob



From Jim.Hale at FleetPride.com  Mon Nov 27 13:46:54 2006
From: Jim.Hale at FleetPride.com (Hale, Jim)
Date: Mon, 27 Nov 2006 13:46:54 -0600
Subject: [AccessD] Excel Import
Message-ID: <6A6AA9DF57E4F046BDA1E273BDDB67727DE125@corp-es01.fleetpride.com>

Sorry, I was out for the week. Here is the secret to using dynamic ranges.
HTH
Jim Hale
http://www.ozgrid.com/Excel/DynamicRanges.htm

-----Original Message-----
From: McGillivray, Don [IT] [mailto:Donald.A.McGillivray at sprint.com]
Sent: Monday, November 20, 2006 5:31 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Excel Import


True, but the inserted rows need to be ABOVE the last row in the existing
range in order for this to work, no?  Not such a big deal if you're adding a
row or two, but when adding large blocks of data, it can be a pain to insert
exactly (or slightly more than) the number or rows you want before adding
the data.  You definitely don't want to insert fewer than you will need.

I seem to remember somebody (Gustav?) posting some code a few months back
that managed the dynamic expansion of a named range in Excel.  Don't
remember how it worked, or anything else about it, but it looked like a
useful thing for situations like this.  Does that ring a bell with anybody
else?

Don

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Susan Harkins
Sent: Monday, November 20, 2006 3:12 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Excel Import

If you insert a new row at the bottom of the range, you don't have to
redefine the range -- Excel does it for you automatically. You could come up
with a macro that does the work for you. I swear, I wrote about that, but
I'd never find it now. But, here's how it would go -- you'd enter a record,
press Ctrl+I or some other keyboard hot key combination to imitate a macro
that would insert a new row at the bottom of the range and position your
cursor at the first cell in the new row -- that way, Excel is constantly
extending the range. 

Susan H. 

Thanks.  This worked.  Although, for an ongoing process...I can just see me
forgetting to re-define my range...and not uploading all the proper data.
:(  For now, however...this worked.  :)


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From pedro at plex.nl  Mon Nov 27 13:50:37 2006
From: pedro at plex.nl (Pedro Janssen)
Date: Mon, 27 Nov 2006 20:50:37 +0100
Subject: [AccessD] saving values
References: <001101c7123a$49d88c00$6401a8c0@HAL9005>
Message-ID: <003d01c7125d$4f725560$4001a8c0@qmotionfaa3ad9>

Hello Rocky,

the message that is get back is "Holy Moly!  There's No Records In Here!!! - 
0

That is strange, because in record two the FossielID (Primary Key of the 
table) value is 2 (auto Number field).

Ik could sent you the small test.mdb,
maybe you have seen the problem then in a minute?

Pedro Janssen


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From: "Beach Access Software" <bchacc at san.rr.com>
To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'" 
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Monday, November 27, 2006 4:39 PM
Subject: Re: [AccessD] saving values


> Pedro:
>
> Just a guess but perhaps using the WHERE clause returns no records because
> the value for the PK you're using is invalid.
>
> After the set rs = statement put
>
> If rs.bof=true and rs.eof=true then
> Msgbox "Holy Moly!  There's No Records In Here!!! - " &
> lngKeyValue
> Exit sub
> End if
>
> To see if that's the case and what the value is of the key you're apssing.
>
> Post the set rs = statement and let's have a look at it.
>
> Regards,
>
> Rocky
>
>
> If it is then
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Pedro Janssen
> Sent: Monday, November 27, 2006 6:55 AM
> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] saving values
>
> Hello Rocky,
>
> i included the Where statement, but get an eror when closing the subform
> with the code:
> Runtime error 3201, no current record.
> When clicking debug button, rs!edit is highlited yellow.
>
> I used help, but still do not understand it.
>
> Pedro Janssen
>
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Beach Access Software" <bchacc at san.rr.com>
> To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'"
> <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
> Sent: Monday, November 27, 2006 2:59 AM
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] saving values
>
>
>> Pedro:
>>
>> You need to add the WHERE clause to your set statement:
>>
>> Set rs = db.OpenRecordset("Select Era, Periode, Epoch, Etage, Tijd FROM
>> tblFossielData WHERE tblFossielDataPrimaryKey = " & lngKeyValue)
>>
>> Do you know what the primary key value is of the record you want to 
>> update
>> with the values from the unbound text boxes?
>>
>> Rocky
>>
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Pedro Janssen
>> Sent: Sunday, November 26, 2006 2:31 AM
>> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
>> Subject: Re: [AccessD] saving values
>>
>> Hello,
>>
>> how would i point to the first record in the Where clausule with the ID?
>> I am placing values from a unbound form, with no ID in a bound form with
>> an
>> ID (= FossielID).
>>
>>
>> Please give me an idea to do this in the code below?
>>
>> Pedro Janssen
>>
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Beach Access Software" <bchacc at san.rr.com>
>> To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'"
>> <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
>> Sent: Saturday, November 25, 2006 10:30 PM
>> Subject: Re: [AccessD] saving values
>>
>>
>>> Pedro:
>>>
>>> It looks like you are opening the table with all of the records.  So the
>>> record pointer of the recor4dset is always pointing to the first record.
>>> You need to either 1) use a WHERE clause in the Set rs = 
>>> db.OpenRecordset
>>> so
>>> you get only the record you want, or 2) after opening the recordset use
>>> rs.FindFirst and specify the primary key of the record you want to
>>> update.
>>> Then the recordset will be positioned at the record you want to update.
>>> Be
>>> sure to use if rs.NoMatch just in case the FindFirst doesn't find the
>>> record.
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>>
>>> Rocky
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>>> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Pedro Janssen
>>> Sent: Saturday, November 25, 2006 12:37 PM
>>> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
>>> Subject: Re: [AccessD] saving values
>>>
>>> Hello Rocky (and Others),
>>>
>>> the code is working fine, but only for the first record on the form.
>>> When i try to use it on the second record (after closing) it jumps to
>>> record
>>>
>>> one and overwrite's the data there.
>>> Trying to put the where statement in it to state that ID = ID, it gives
>>> an
>>> error on record two that it expects parameter = 1.
>>>
>>> The code that i use now:
>>>
>>> Private Sub Form_Close()
>>>
>>> Dim db As DAO.Database
>>> Dim rs As DAO.Recordset
>>>
>>> Set db = CurrentDb
>>> Set rs = db.OpenRecordset("Select Era, Periode, Epoch, Etage, Tijd FROM
>>> tblFossielData")
>>>
>>> rs.Edit
>>> rs!Era = cboEra
>>> rs!Periode = cboPeriode
>>> rs!Epoch = cboEpoch
>>> rs!Etage = cboEtage
>>> rs!Tijd = cboTijd
>>> rs.Update
>>>
>>> rs.Close
>>> db.Close
>>>
>>> Set rs = Nothing
>>> Set db = Nothing
>>>
>>> Me.Requery
>>>
>>> End Sub
>>>
>>> What can i do about this?
>>>
>>> Pedro Janssen
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>> From: "Beach Access Software" <bchacc at san.rr.com>
>>> To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'"
>>> <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
>>> Sent: Friday, November 24, 2006 9:09 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [AccessD] saving values
>>>
>>>
>>>> Pedro:
>>>>
>>>> Just off the top and untested:
>>>>
>>>> Dim db as DAO.Database
>>>> Dim rs as DAO.Recordset
>>>>
>>>> Set db = CurrentDb
>>>> Set rs = db.OpenRecordset("Select fldOne, fldTwo, fldThree FROM
>>>> tblMyTable
>>>> WHERE fldPK = " & lngPrimaryKey)
>>>>
>>>> ' Note: You could use any criteria you want in the WHERE clause; 
>>>> doesn't
>>>> have to be the primary key.
>>>>
>>>> rs.Edit
>>>> rs!fldOne = cboComboBox1
>>>> rs!fldTwo = cboComboBox2
>>>> rs!fldThree = cboComboBox3
>>>> rs.Update
>>>>
>>>> rs.Close
>>>> db.Close
>>>>
>>>> set rs = Nothing
>>>> set db = Nothing
>>>>
>>>> Me.Requery (assuming you want the values to show on the bound form.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Or here's another approach which I think should work but I haven't
>>>> tested:
>>>>
>>>> Set db = CurrentDb
>>>> Db.Execute "UPDATE tblMyTable SET tblMyTable.fldOne = '" & cboComboBox1
>>>> &
>>>> "', tblMyTable.fldTwo= '" & cboComboBox2 & "', tblMyTable.fldThree = '"
>>>> &
>>>> cboComboBox3 & "';"
>>>>
>>>> Note that I have assumes that the values are string values and so need
>>>> to
>>>> have preceding and following apostrophes.  If the values are numeric
>>>> then
>>>> they won't need the '.
>>>>
>>>> I'm sure someone else looking at this code will make the appropriate
>>>> corrections.
>>>>
>>>> Regards,
>>>>
>>>> Rocky
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>>>> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Pedro 
>>>> Janssen
>>>> Sent: Thursday, November 23, 2006 3:35 PM
>>>> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
>>>> Subject: Re: [AccessD] saving values
>>>>
>>>> Hello Rocky,
>>>>
>>>> could you give me an example of that, preferably in a example database.
>>>> I have tried several things until now but nothing is working perfect.
>>>>
>>>> Pedro Janssen
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>>> From: "Beach Access Software" <bchacc at san.rr.com>
>>>> To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'"
>>>> <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
>>>> Sent: Friday, November 24, 2006 12:07 AM
>>>> Subject: Re: [AccessD] saving values
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> I'd use Dao, open the record in question, push the value in, and
>>>>> requery
>>>>> the
>>>>> form.
>>>>>
>>>>> Rocky
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>>>>> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Pedro
>>>>> Janssen
>>>>> Sent: 23 November 2006 13:32
>>>>> To: AccessD
>>>>> Subject: [AccessD] saving values
>>>>>
>>>>> Hello Group,
>>>>>
>>>>> i still have troubles saving values from unbound comboxes (cascade) in
>>>>> table
>>>>> fields.
>>>>>
>>>>> What is the best way to do this.
>>>>>
>>>>> Pedro Janssen
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From bchacc at san.rr.com  Mon Nov 27 14:19:55 2006
From: bchacc at san.rr.com (Beach Access Software)
Date: Mon, 27 Nov 2006 12:19:55 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] DAO Field Name String/Variable
In-Reply-To: <AIEKKBIAKDJNAFGABNJKIEMLGOAA.bheygood@abestsystems.com>
Message-ID: <005601c71261$678510d0$6401a8c0@HAL9005>

So table one contains the field names of table 2?

Rocky

P.S. Swing by my office with your laptop and I'll do it for you on the spot
(yes I have an ulterior motive).


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[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Bob Heygood
Sent: Monday, November 27, 2006 11:24 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: [AccessD] DAO Fiekd Name String/Variable

Hello to the list,

I woild like to:
1. get a value from one table as a string
2. lookup the value of a field in a second table 
where the field name = the value of field in table 1
Using !s if possible.

TIA

best 


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From bchacc at san.rr.com  Mon Nov 27 14:21:50 2006
From: bchacc at san.rr.com (Beach Access Software)
Date: Mon, 27 Nov 2006 12:21:50 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] saving values
In-Reply-To: <003d01c7125d$4f725560$4001a8c0@qmotionfaa3ad9>
Message-ID: <005701c71261$ac5f4180$6401a8c0@HAL9005>

Sure, send it over.  But perhaps you are using my air code for the search
key - lngKeyValue - instead of your primary key value in FossielID? The
message tells me that you are using the value 0 in the WHERE clause.

Rocky


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Pedro Janssen
Sent: Monday, November 27, 2006 11:51 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] saving values

Hello Rocky,

the message that is get back is "Holy Moly!  There's No Records In Here!!! -

0

That is strange, because in record two the FossielID (Primary Key of the 
table) value is 2 (auto Number field).

Ik could sent you the small test.mdb,
maybe you have seen the problem then in a minute?

Pedro Janssen


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Beach Access Software" <bchacc at san.rr.com>
To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'" 
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Monday, November 27, 2006 4:39 PM
Subject: Re: [AccessD] saving values


> Pedro:
>
> Just a guess but perhaps using the WHERE clause returns no records because
> the value for the PK you're using is invalid.
>
> After the set rs = statement put
>
> If rs.bof=true and rs.eof=true then
> Msgbox "Holy Moly!  There's No Records In Here!!! - " &
> lngKeyValue
> Exit sub
> End if
>
> To see if that's the case and what the value is of the key you're apssing.
>
> Post the set rs = statement and let's have a look at it.
>
> Regards,
>
> Rocky
>
>
> If it is then
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Pedro Janssen
> Sent: Monday, November 27, 2006 6:55 AM
> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] saving values
>
> Hello Rocky,
>
> i included the Where statement, but get an eror when closing the subform
> with the code:
> Runtime error 3201, no current record.
> When clicking debug button, rs!edit is highlited yellow.
>
> I used help, but still do not understand it.
>
> Pedro Janssen
>
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Beach Access Software" <bchacc at san.rr.com>
> To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'"
> <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
> Sent: Monday, November 27, 2006 2:59 AM
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] saving values
>
>
>> Pedro:
>>
>> You need to add the WHERE clause to your set statement:
>>
>> Set rs = db.OpenRecordset("Select Era, Periode, Epoch, Etage, Tijd FROM
>> tblFossielData WHERE tblFossielDataPrimaryKey = " & lngKeyValue)
>>
>> Do you know what the primary key value is of the record you want to 
>> update
>> with the values from the unbound text boxes?
>>
>> Rocky
>>
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Pedro Janssen
>> Sent: Sunday, November 26, 2006 2:31 AM
>> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
>> Subject: Re: [AccessD] saving values
>>
>> Hello,
>>
>> how would i point to the first record in the Where clausule with the ID?
>> I am placing values from a unbound form, with no ID in a bound form with
>> an
>> ID (= FossielID).
>>
>>
>> Please give me an idea to do this in the code below?
>>
>> Pedro Janssen
>>
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Beach Access Software" <bchacc at san.rr.com>
>> To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'"
>> <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
>> Sent: Saturday, November 25, 2006 10:30 PM
>> Subject: Re: [AccessD] saving values
>>
>>
>>> Pedro:
>>>
>>> It looks like you are opening the table with all of the records.  So the
>>> record pointer of the recor4dset is always pointing to the first record.
>>> You need to either 1) use a WHERE clause in the Set rs = 
>>> db.OpenRecordset
>>> so
>>> you get only the record you want, or 2) after opening the recordset use
>>> rs.FindFirst and specify the primary key of the record you want to
>>> update.
>>> Then the recordset will be positioned at the record you want to update.
>>> Be
>>> sure to use if rs.NoMatch just in case the FindFirst doesn't find the
>>> record.
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>>
>>> Rocky
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>>> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Pedro Janssen
>>> Sent: Saturday, November 25, 2006 12:37 PM
>>> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
>>> Subject: Re: [AccessD] saving values
>>>
>>> Hello Rocky (and Others),
>>>
>>> the code is working fine, but only for the first record on the form.
>>> When i try to use it on the second record (after closing) it jumps to
>>> record
>>>
>>> one and overwrite's the data there.
>>> Trying to put the where statement in it to state that ID = ID, it gives
>>> an
>>> error on record two that it expects parameter = 1.
>>>
>>> The code that i use now:
>>>
>>> Private Sub Form_Close()
>>>
>>> Dim db As DAO.Database
>>> Dim rs As DAO.Recordset
>>>
>>> Set db = CurrentDb
>>> Set rs = db.OpenRecordset("Select Era, Periode, Epoch, Etage, Tijd FROM
>>> tblFossielData")
>>>
>>> rs.Edit
>>> rs!Era = cboEra
>>> rs!Periode = cboPeriode
>>> rs!Epoch = cboEpoch
>>> rs!Etage = cboEtage
>>> rs!Tijd = cboTijd
>>> rs.Update
>>>
>>> rs.Close
>>> db.Close
>>>
>>> Set rs = Nothing
>>> Set db = Nothing
>>>
>>> Me.Requery
>>>
>>> End Sub
>>>
>>> What can i do about this?
>>>
>>> Pedro Janssen
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>> From: "Beach Access Software" <bchacc at san.rr.com>
>>> To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'"
>>> <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
>>> Sent: Friday, November 24, 2006 9:09 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [AccessD] saving values
>>>
>>>
>>>> Pedro:
>>>>
>>>> Just off the top and untested:
>>>>
>>>> Dim db as DAO.Database
>>>> Dim rs as DAO.Recordset
>>>>
>>>> Set db = CurrentDb
>>>> Set rs = db.OpenRecordset("Select fldOne, fldTwo, fldThree FROM
>>>> tblMyTable
>>>> WHERE fldPK = " & lngPrimaryKey)
>>>>
>>>> ' Note: You could use any criteria you want in the WHERE clause; 
>>>> doesn't
>>>> have to be the primary key.
>>>>
>>>> rs.Edit
>>>> rs!fldOne = cboComboBox1
>>>> rs!fldTwo = cboComboBox2
>>>> rs!fldThree = cboComboBox3
>>>> rs.Update
>>>>
>>>> rs.Close
>>>> db.Close
>>>>
>>>> set rs = Nothing
>>>> set db = Nothing
>>>>
>>>> Me.Requery (assuming you want the values to show on the bound form.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Or here's another approach which I think should work but I haven't
>>>> tested:
>>>>
>>>> Set db = CurrentDb
>>>> Db.Execute "UPDATE tblMyTable SET tblMyTable.fldOne = '" & cboComboBox1
>>>> &
>>>> "', tblMyTable.fldTwo= '" & cboComboBox2 & "', tblMyTable.fldThree = '"
>>>> &
>>>> cboComboBox3 & "';"
>>>>
>>>> Note that I have assumes that the values are string values and so need
>>>> to
>>>> have preceding and following apostrophes.  If the values are numeric
>>>> then
>>>> they won't need the '.
>>>>
>>>> I'm sure someone else looking at this code will make the appropriate
>>>> corrections.
>>>>
>>>> Regards,
>>>>
>>>> Rocky
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>>>> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Pedro 
>>>> Janssen
>>>> Sent: Thursday, November 23, 2006 3:35 PM
>>>> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
>>>> Subject: Re: [AccessD] saving values
>>>>
>>>> Hello Rocky,
>>>>
>>>> could you give me an example of that, preferably in a example database.
>>>> I have tried several things until now but nothing is working perfect.
>>>>
>>>> Pedro Janssen
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>>> From: "Beach Access Software" <bchacc at san.rr.com>
>>>> To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'"
>>>> <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
>>>> Sent: Friday, November 24, 2006 12:07 AM
>>>> Subject: Re: [AccessD] saving values
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> I'd use Dao, open the record in question, push the value in, and
>>>>> requery
>>>>> the
>>>>> form.
>>>>>
>>>>> Rocky
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>>>>> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Pedro
>>>>> Janssen
>>>>> Sent: 23 November 2006 13:32
>>>>> To: AccessD
>>>>> Subject: [AccessD] saving values
>>>>>
>>>>> Hello Group,
>>>>>
>>>>> i still have troubles saving values from unbound comboxes (cascade) in
>>>>> table
>>>>> fields.
>>>>>
>>>>> What is the best way to do this.
>>>>>
>>>>> Pedro Janssen
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From shamil at users.mns.ru  Mon Nov 27 14:37:26 2006
From: shamil at users.mns.ru (Shamil Salakhetdinov)
Date: Mon, 27 Nov 2006 23:37:26 +0300
Subject: [AccessD] [Access-D]  XML Import Sample File
In-Reply-To: <1520.65.118.249.214.1164649251.squirrel@webmail.iowatelecom.net>
Message-ID: <000301c71263$e1763070$6401a8c0@nant>

Hello Greg,

Try to change reference to MSXML v.4.0 or above....

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Sent: Monday, November 27, 2006 8:41 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: [AccessD] XML Import Sample File

Shamil:

Thanks again for the sample file code, by the way.

The first two functions, XmlImportTest1() and XmlImportTest2() both work
just fine.  However, when I try to test XmlImportTest3() or
XmlImportTest4(), I get the following error:

  Run Time Error '429'
  Active X Component Can't Create Object

and the following line of code is highlighted as the culprit:

  obj.ImportData CurrentDb, "Shippers", Array _
    ("CompanyName", "Phone"), mcstrXml1FullPath2

where ...FullPath1 is for ...Test3() and ...FullPath2 is for ...Test4().

I have the sneaky feeling I don't have something installed or properly
referenced, but I'm not sure what.

Any suggestions?

Thanks!

Greg Smith

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From martyconnelly at shaw.ca  Mon Nov 27 15:52:36 2006
From: martyconnelly at shaw.ca (MartyConnelly)
Date: Mon, 27 Nov 2006 13:52:36 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] [Access-D]  XML Import Sample File
In-Reply-To: <000301c71263$e1763070$6401a8c0@nant>
References: <000301c71263$e1763070$6401a8c0@nant>
Message-ID: <456B5E24.6@shaw.ca>

You might want to grab MSXML 4.0 SP2,  mostly security fixes.
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyID=3144b72b-b4f2-46da-b4b6-c5d7485f2b42&DisplayLang=en#Requirements

MSXML 3.0 is up to SP 7, this runs with OS below Win2000

There are versions  MSXML 5.0 and  6.0 but I only need for advanced 
XPath standards and XLINQ
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyID=993c0bcf-3bcf-4009-be21-27e85e1857b1&DisplayLang=en#Requirements

Shamil Salakhetdinov wrote:

>Hello Greg,
>
>Try to change reference to MSXML v.4.0 or above....
>
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> 
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of
>gwsmith at iowatelecom.net
>Sent: Monday, November 27, 2006 8:41 PM
>To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
>Subject: [AccessD] XML Import Sample File
>
>Shamil:
>
>Thanks again for the sample file code, by the way.
>
>The first two functions, XmlImportTest1() and XmlImportTest2() both work
>just fine.  However, when I try to test XmlImportTest3() or
>XmlImportTest4(), I get the following error:
>
>  Run Time Error '429'
>  Active X Component Can't Create Object
>
>and the following line of code is highlighted as the culprit:
>
>  obj.ImportData CurrentDb, "Shippers", Array _
>    ("CompanyName", "Phone"), mcstrXml1FullPath2
>
>where ...FullPath1 is for ...Test3() and ...FullPath2 is for ...Test4().
>
>I have the sneaky feeling I don't have something installed or properly
>referenced, but I'm not sure what.
>
>Any suggestions?
>
>Thanks!
>
>Greg Smith
>
>  
>

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From gwsmith at iowatelecom.net  Mon Nov 27 15:53:42 2006
From: gwsmith at iowatelecom.net (Greg Smith)
Date: Mon, 27 Nov 2006 15:53:42 -0600 (CST)
Subject: [AccessD] [Access-D]  XML Import Sample File
In-Reply-To: <000301c71263$e1763070$6401a8c0@nant>
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	<000301c71263$e1763070$6401a8c0@nant>
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Hi Shamil:

I'm currently set at MSXML 6 (MSXML6.dll).

Greg

> Hello Greg,
>
> Try to change reference to MSXML v.4.0 or above....
>
> --
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>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of
> gwsmith at iowatelecom.net
> Sent: Monday, November 27, 2006 8:41 PM
> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> Subject: [AccessD] XML Import Sample File
>
> Shamil:
>
> Thanks again for the sample file code, by the way.
>
> The first two functions, XmlImportTest1() and XmlImportTest2() both work
> just fine.  However, when I try to test XmlImportTest3() or
> XmlImportTest4(), I get the following error:
>
>   Run Time Error '429'
>   Active X Component Can't Create Object
>
> and the following line of code is highlighted as the culprit:
>
>   obj.ImportData CurrentDb, "Shippers", Array _
>     ("CompanyName", "Phone"), mcstrXml1FullPath2
>
> where ...FullPath1 is for ...Test3() and ...FullPath2 is for ...Test4().
>
> I have the sneaky feeling I don't have something installed or properly
> referenced, but I'm not sure what.
>
> Any suggestions?
>
> Thanks!
>
> Greg Smith
>



From bheygood at abestsystems.com  Mon Nov 27 16:20:14 2006
From: bheygood at abestsystems.com (Bob Heygood)
Date: Mon, 27 Nov 2006 14:20:14 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] DAO Field Name String/Variable
In-Reply-To: <005601c71261$678510d0$6401a8c0@HAL9005>
Message-ID: <AIEKKBIAKDJNAFGABNJKAENBGOAA.bheygood@abestsystems.com>

in my example the field names are in table 1.

Sorry i'm Vegas working on a laptop.....
Will visit soon.

bob




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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Beach Access
Software
Sent: Monday, November 27, 2006 12:20 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: Re: [AccessD] DAO Field Name String/Variable


So table one contains the field names of table 2?

Rocky

P.S. Swing by my office with your laptop and I'll do it for you on the spot
(yes I have an ulterior motive).


-----Original Message-----
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Sent: Monday, November 27, 2006 11:24 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: [AccessD] DAO Fiekd Name String/Variable

Hello to the list,

I woild like to:
1. get a value from one table as a string
2. lookup the value of a field in a second table 
where the field name = the value of field in table 1
Using !s if possible.

TIA

best 


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From bchacc at san.rr.com  Mon Nov 27 16:31:17 2006
From: bchacc at san.rr.com (Beach Access Software)
Date: Mon, 27 Nov 2006 14:31:17 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] saving values
In-Reply-To: <003d01c7125d$4f725560$4001a8c0@qmotionfaa3ad9>
Message-ID: <002301c71273$c1dfd800$6401a8c0@HAL9005>

Pedro:

You are using my variable name lngKeyValue for the criterion in the WHERE
clause to limit the recordset to the one record you are looking for.  You
should use the value of the field from the combo box, instead.  

And I'm not clear on what you're trying to store or what the relationship is
between the two tables.  So I can't be more precise.  

Tell me again the user process and what you're trying to accomplish.

Regards,

Rocky


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Pedro Janssen
Sent: Monday, November 27, 2006 11:51 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] saving values

Hello Rocky,

the message that is get back is "Holy Moly!  There's No Records In Here!!! -

0

That is strange, because in record two the FossielID (Primary Key of the 
table) value is 2 (auto Number field).

Ik could sent you the small test.mdb,
maybe you have seen the problem then in a minute?

Pedro Janssen


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From: "Beach Access Software" <bchacc at san.rr.com>
To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'" 
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Monday, November 27, 2006 4:39 PM
Subject: Re: [AccessD] saving values


> Pedro:
>
> Just a guess but perhaps using the WHERE clause returns no records because
> the value for the PK you're using is invalid.
>
> After the set rs = statement put
>
> If rs.bof=true and rs.eof=true then
> Msgbox "Holy Moly!  There's No Records In Here!!! - " &
> lngKeyValue
> Exit sub
> End if
>
> To see if that's the case and what the value is of the key you're apssing.
>
> Post the set rs = statement and let's have a look at it.
>
> Regards,
>
> Rocky
>
>
> If it is then
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Pedro Janssen
> Sent: Monday, November 27, 2006 6:55 AM
> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] saving values
>
> Hello Rocky,
>
> i included the Where statement, but get an eror when closing the subform
> with the code:
> Runtime error 3201, no current record.
> When clicking debug button, rs!edit is highlited yellow.
>
> I used help, but still do not understand it.
>
> Pedro Janssen
>
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Beach Access Software" <bchacc at san.rr.com>
> To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'"
> <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
> Sent: Monday, November 27, 2006 2:59 AM
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] saving values
>
>
>> Pedro:
>>
>> You need to add the WHERE clause to your set statement:
>>
>> Set rs = db.OpenRecordset("Select Era, Periode, Epoch, Etage, Tijd FROM
>> tblFossielData WHERE tblFossielDataPrimaryKey = " & lngKeyValue)
>>
>> Do you know what the primary key value is of the record you want to 
>> update
>> with the values from the unbound text boxes?
>>
>> Rocky
>>
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Pedro Janssen
>> Sent: Sunday, November 26, 2006 2:31 AM
>> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
>> Subject: Re: [AccessD] saving values
>>
>> Hello,
>>
>> how would i point to the first record in the Where clausule with the ID?
>> I am placing values from a unbound form, with no ID in a bound form with
>> an
>> ID (= FossielID).
>>
>>
>> Please give me an idea to do this in the code below?
>>
>> Pedro Janssen
>>
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Beach Access Software" <bchacc at san.rr.com>
>> To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'"
>> <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
>> Sent: Saturday, November 25, 2006 10:30 PM
>> Subject: Re: [AccessD] saving values
>>
>>
>>> Pedro:
>>>
>>> It looks like you are opening the table with all of the records.  So the
>>> record pointer of the recor4dset is always pointing to the first record.
>>> You need to either 1) use a WHERE clause in the Set rs = 
>>> db.OpenRecordset
>>> so
>>> you get only the record you want, or 2) after opening the recordset use
>>> rs.FindFirst and specify the primary key of the record you want to
>>> update.
>>> Then the recordset will be positioned at the record you want to update.
>>> Be
>>> sure to use if rs.NoMatch just in case the FindFirst doesn't find the
>>> record.
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>>
>>> Rocky
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>>> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Pedro Janssen
>>> Sent: Saturday, November 25, 2006 12:37 PM
>>> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
>>> Subject: Re: [AccessD] saving values
>>>
>>> Hello Rocky (and Others),
>>>
>>> the code is working fine, but only for the first record on the form.
>>> When i try to use it on the second record (after closing) it jumps to
>>> record
>>>
>>> one and overwrite's the data there.
>>> Trying to put the where statement in it to state that ID = ID, it gives
>>> an
>>> error on record two that it expects parameter = 1.
>>>
>>> The code that i use now:
>>>
>>> Private Sub Form_Close()
>>>
>>> Dim db As DAO.Database
>>> Dim rs As DAO.Recordset
>>>
>>> Set db = CurrentDb
>>> Set rs = db.OpenRecordset("Select Era, Periode, Epoch, Etage, Tijd FROM
>>> tblFossielData")
>>>
>>> rs.Edit
>>> rs!Era = cboEra
>>> rs!Periode = cboPeriode
>>> rs!Epoch = cboEpoch
>>> rs!Etage = cboEtage
>>> rs!Tijd = cboTijd
>>> rs.Update
>>>
>>> rs.Close
>>> db.Close
>>>
>>> Set rs = Nothing
>>> Set db = Nothing
>>>
>>> Me.Requery
>>>
>>> End Sub
>>>
>>> What can i do about this?
>>>
>>> Pedro Janssen
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>> From: "Beach Access Software" <bchacc at san.rr.com>
>>> To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'"
>>> <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
>>> Sent: Friday, November 24, 2006 9:09 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [AccessD] saving values
>>>
>>>
>>>> Pedro:
>>>>
>>>> Just off the top and untested:
>>>>
>>>> Dim db as DAO.Database
>>>> Dim rs as DAO.Recordset
>>>>
>>>> Set db = CurrentDb
>>>> Set rs = db.OpenRecordset("Select fldOne, fldTwo, fldThree FROM
>>>> tblMyTable
>>>> WHERE fldPK = " & lngPrimaryKey)
>>>>
>>>> ' Note: You could use any criteria you want in the WHERE clause; 
>>>> doesn't
>>>> have to be the primary key.
>>>>
>>>> rs.Edit
>>>> rs!fldOne = cboComboBox1
>>>> rs!fldTwo = cboComboBox2
>>>> rs!fldThree = cboComboBox3
>>>> rs.Update
>>>>
>>>> rs.Close
>>>> db.Close
>>>>
>>>> set rs = Nothing
>>>> set db = Nothing
>>>>
>>>> Me.Requery (assuming you want the values to show on the bound form.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Or here's another approach which I think should work but I haven't
>>>> tested:
>>>>
>>>> Set db = CurrentDb
>>>> Db.Execute "UPDATE tblMyTable SET tblMyTable.fldOne = '" & cboComboBox1
>>>> &
>>>> "', tblMyTable.fldTwo= '" & cboComboBox2 & "', tblMyTable.fldThree = '"
>>>> &
>>>> cboComboBox3 & "';"
>>>>
>>>> Note that I have assumes that the values are string values and so need
>>>> to
>>>> have preceding and following apostrophes.  If the values are numeric
>>>> then
>>>> they won't need the '.
>>>>
>>>> I'm sure someone else looking at this code will make the appropriate
>>>> corrections.
>>>>
>>>> Regards,
>>>>
>>>> Rocky
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>>>> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Pedro 
>>>> Janssen
>>>> Sent: Thursday, November 23, 2006 3:35 PM
>>>> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
>>>> Subject: Re: [AccessD] saving values
>>>>
>>>> Hello Rocky,
>>>>
>>>> could you give me an example of that, preferably in a example database.
>>>> I have tried several things until now but nothing is working perfect.
>>>>
>>>> Pedro Janssen
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>>> From: "Beach Access Software" <bchacc at san.rr.com>
>>>> To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'"
>>>> <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
>>>> Sent: Friday, November 24, 2006 12:07 AM
>>>> Subject: Re: [AccessD] saving values
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> I'd use Dao, open the record in question, push the value in, and
>>>>> requery
>>>>> the
>>>>> form.
>>>>>
>>>>> Rocky
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>>>>> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Pedro
>>>>> Janssen
>>>>> Sent: 23 November 2006 13:32
>>>>> To: AccessD
>>>>> Subject: [AccessD] saving values
>>>>>
>>>>> Hello Group,
>>>>>
>>>>> i still have troubles saving values from unbound comboxes (cascade) in
>>>>> table
>>>>> fields.
>>>>>
>>>>> What is the best way to do this.
>>>>>
>>>>> Pedro Janssen
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From bchacc at san.rr.com  Mon Nov 27 16:34:15 2006
From: bchacc at san.rr.com (Beach Access Software)
Date: Mon, 27 Nov 2006 14:34:15 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] DAO Field Name String/Variable
In-Reply-To: <AIEKKBIAKDJNAFGABNJKAENBGOAA.bheygood@abestsystems.com>
Message-ID: <002401c71274$2bcb2b70$6401a8c0@HAL9005>

Bob:

Right off the top of my head, I think, after you get the field name from the
first recordset into a string variable like strFieldName, then in the second
recordset you'd want to use rs2(strFieldName) to get reference the value
from that field of the record that recordset rs2 is currently pointing to.

Clear as mud?

Call me if you want to - 858-259-4334.

Rocky




-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Bob Heygood
Sent: Monday, November 27, 2006 2:20 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] DAO Field Name String/Variable

in my example the field names are in table 1.

Sorry i'm Vegas working on a laptop.....
Will visit soon.

bob




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Software
Sent: Monday, November 27, 2006 12:20 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: Re: [AccessD] DAO Field Name String/Variable


So table one contains the field names of table 2?

Rocky

P.S. Swing by my office with your laptop and I'll do it for you on the spot
(yes I have an ulterior motive).


-----Original Message-----
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Sent: Monday, November 27, 2006 11:24 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: [AccessD] DAO Fiekd Name String/Variable

Hello to the list,

I woild like to:
1. get a value from one table as a string
2. lookup the value of a field in a second table 
where the field name = the value of field in table 1
Using !s if possible.

TIA

best 


Bob

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From shamil at users.mns.ru  Mon Nov 27 16:40:02 2006
From: shamil at users.mns.ru (Shamil Salakhetdinov)
Date: Tue, 28 Nov 2006 01:40:02 +0300
Subject: [AccessD] XML Import Sample File
In-Reply-To: <21609.65.118.249.214.1164664422.squirrel@webmail.iowatelecom.net>
Message-ID: <000001c71274$fa875d30$6401a8c0@nant>

Greg,

I did try sample code with MSXML 6.0 and it worked OK.

Try to debug/trace this function:

My guess the problem is in this function:

Public Function Parse(ByVal vstrURL As String, ByVal vstrTableName As
String, ByVal vavarFields As Variant)
Dim reader As SAXXMLReader40
    mavarFields = vavarFields
    mstrTableName = vstrTableName
    mintFieldIndex = -1
    mintFieldsCount = 0
    Set reader = New SAXXMLReader40
    Set reader.contentHandler = Me
    Set reader.errorHandler = Me
    reader.parseURL vstrURL
End Function

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-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Greg Smith
Sent: Tuesday, November 28, 2006 12:54 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] [Access-D] XML Import Sample File

Hi Shamil:

I'm currently set at MSXML 6 (MSXML6.dll).

Greg

> Hello Greg,
>
> Try to change reference to MSXML v.4.0 or above....
>
> --
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>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of
> gwsmith at iowatelecom.net
> Sent: Monday, November 27, 2006 8:41 PM
> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> Subject: [AccessD] XML Import Sample File
>
> Shamil:
>
> Thanks again for the sample file code, by the way.
>
> The first two functions, XmlImportTest1() and XmlImportTest2() both work
> just fine.  However, when I try to test XmlImportTest3() or
> XmlImportTest4(), I get the following error:
>
>   Run Time Error '429'
>   Active X Component Can't Create Object
>
> and the following line of code is highlighted as the culprit:
>
>   obj.ImportData CurrentDb, "Shippers", Array _
>     ("CompanyName", "Phone"), mcstrXml1FullPath2
>
> where ...FullPath1 is for ...Test3() and ...FullPath2 is for ...Test4().
>
> I have the sneaky feeling I don't have something installed or properly
> referenced, but I'm not sure what.
>
> Any suggestions?
>
> Thanks!
>
> Greg Smith
>

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From pedro at plex.nl  Mon Nov 27 17:05:23 2006
From: pedro at plex.nl (Pedro Janssen)
Date: Tue, 28 Nov 2006 00:05:23 +0100
Subject: [AccessD] saving values
References: <002301c71273$c1dfd800$6401a8c0@HAL9005>
Message-ID: <001e01c71278$89ab5130$4001a8c0@qmotionfaa3ad9>

Hello Rocky,

In this testdatabase is just want to make the cascadecombox selection trying 
to work, for a major Fossil Database.
The Main Table in the test is tblFossieldata (fossildata). The form 
frmFossielData is bound to that table.
In this table you see the fields Era, Periode, Epoch, Etage and Tijd. These 
are Geological Timetable fields. These fields are just textfields

The table tblTijdschaal (timescale) I filled with the vlues that i want to 
use in the tblFossielData, in the fields that i mentioned before.
Normally i would do this with a combobox for each, but the list of timescale 
is very large, so i would simplify that by using a cascadecombo, that is 
present in frmTijdschaal.

When opening a record in frmFossielData, and field Era gets the focus (in 
the real database there wil be a button click event), the unbound subform 
gets the focus.
By using the cascade, Each field is filtered by the value of the combobox 
before.
When selected the values in the five cascade comboboxes, i want to close the 
frmTijdschaal en the values of Era.frmTijdschaal must be placed in the field 
Era of frmFossielData, etc for the other four fields.

Pedro Janssen


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Beach Access Software" <bchacc at san.rr.com>
To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'" 
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Monday, November 27, 2006 11:31 PM
Subject: Re: [AccessD] saving values


> Pedro:
>
> You are using my variable name lngKeyValue for the criterion in the WHERE
> clause to limit the recordset to the one record you are looking for.  You
> should use the value of the field from the combo box, instead.
>
> And I'm not clear on what you're trying to store or what the relationship 
> is
> between the two tables.  So I can't be more precise.
>
> Tell me again the user process and what you're trying to accomplish.
>
> Regards,
>
> Rocky
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Pedro Janssen
> Sent: Monday, November 27, 2006 11:51 AM
> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] saving values
>
> Hello Rocky,
>
> the message that is get back is "Holy Moly!  There's No Records In 
> Here!!! -
>
> 0
>
> That is strange, because in record two the FossielID (Primary Key of the
> table) value is 2 (auto Number field).
>
> Ik could sent you the small test.mdb,
> maybe you have seen the problem then in a minute?
>
> Pedro Janssen
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Beach Access Software" <bchacc at san.rr.com>
> To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'"
> <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
> Sent: Monday, November 27, 2006 4:39 PM
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] saving values
>
>
>> Pedro:
>>
>> Just a guess but perhaps using the WHERE clause returns no records 
>> because
>> the value for the PK you're using is invalid.
>>
>> After the set rs = statement put
>>
>> If rs.bof=true and rs.eof=true then
>> Msgbox "Holy Moly!  There's No Records In Here!!! - " &
>> lngKeyValue
>> Exit sub
>> End if
>>
>> To see if that's the case and what the value is of the key you're 
>> apssing.
>>
>> Post the set rs = statement and let's have a look at it.
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Rocky
>>
>>
>> If it is then
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Pedro Janssen
>> Sent: Monday, November 27, 2006 6:55 AM
>> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
>> Subject: Re: [AccessD] saving values
>>
>> Hello Rocky,
>>
>> i included the Where statement, but get an eror when closing the subform
>> with the code:
>> Runtime error 3201, no current record.
>> When clicking debug button, rs!edit is highlited yellow.
>>
>> I used help, but still do not understand it.
>>
>> Pedro Janssen
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Beach Access Software" <bchacc at san.rr.com>
>> To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'"
>> <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
>> Sent: Monday, November 27, 2006 2:59 AM
>> Subject: Re: [AccessD] saving values
>>
>>
>>> Pedro:
>>>
>>> You need to add the WHERE clause to your set statement:
>>>
>>> Set rs = db.OpenRecordset("Select Era, Periode, Epoch, Etage, Tijd FROM
>>> tblFossielData WHERE tblFossielDataPrimaryKey = " & lngKeyValue)
>>>
>>> Do you know what the primary key value is of the record you want to
>>> update
>>> with the values from the unbound text boxes?
>>>
>>> Rocky
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>>> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Pedro Janssen
>>> Sent: Sunday, November 26, 2006 2:31 AM
>>> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
>>> Subject: Re: [AccessD] saving values
>>>
>>> Hello,
>>>
>>> how would i point to the first record in the Where clausule with the ID?
>>> I am placing values from a unbound form, with no ID in a bound form with
>>> an
>>> ID (= FossielID).
>>>
>>>
>>> Please give me an idea to do this in the code below?
>>>
>>> Pedro Janssen
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>> From: "Beach Access Software" <bchacc at san.rr.com>
>>> To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'"
>>> <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
>>> Sent: Saturday, November 25, 2006 10:30 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [AccessD] saving values
>>>
>>>
>>>> Pedro:
>>>>
>>>> It looks like you are opening the table with all of the records.  So 
>>>> the
>>>> record pointer of the recor4dset is always pointing to the first 
>>>> record.
>>>> You need to either 1) use a WHERE clause in the Set rs =
>>>> db.OpenRecordset
>>>> so
>>>> you get only the record you want, or 2) after opening the recordset use
>>>> rs.FindFirst and specify the primary key of the record you want to
>>>> update.
>>>> Then the recordset will be positioned at the record you want to update.
>>>> Be
>>>> sure to use if rs.NoMatch just in case the FindFirst doesn't find the
>>>> record.
>>>>
>>>> Regards,
>>>>
>>>> Rocky
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>>>> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Pedro 
>>>> Janssen
>>>> Sent: Saturday, November 25, 2006 12:37 PM
>>>> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
>>>> Subject: Re: [AccessD] saving values
>>>>
>>>> Hello Rocky (and Others),
>>>>
>>>> the code is working fine, but only for the first record on the form.
>>>> When i try to use it on the second record (after closing) it jumps to
>>>> record
>>>>
>>>> one and overwrite's the data there.
>>>> Trying to put the where statement in it to state that ID = ID, it gives
>>>> an
>>>> error on record two that it expects parameter = 1.
>>>>
>>>> The code that i use now:
>>>>
>>>> Private Sub Form_Close()
>>>>
>>>> Dim db As DAO.Database
>>>> Dim rs As DAO.Recordset
>>>>
>>>> Set db = CurrentDb
>>>> Set rs = db.OpenRecordset("Select Era, Periode, Epoch, Etage, Tijd FROM
>>>> tblFossielData")
>>>>
>>>> rs.Edit
>>>> rs!Era = cboEra
>>>> rs!Periode = cboPeriode
>>>> rs!Epoch = cboEpoch
>>>> rs!Etage = cboEtage
>>>> rs!Tijd = cboTijd
>>>> rs.Update
>>>>
>>>> rs.Close
>>>> db.Close
>>>>
>>>> Set rs = Nothing
>>>> Set db = Nothing
>>>>
>>>> Me.Requery
>>>>
>>>> End Sub
>>>>
>>>> What can i do about this?
>>>>
>>>> Pedro Janssen
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>>> From: "Beach Access Software" <bchacc at san.rr.com>
>>>> To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'"
>>>> <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
>>>> Sent: Friday, November 24, 2006 9:09 PM
>>>> Subject: Re: [AccessD] saving values
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Pedro:
>>>>>
>>>>> Just off the top and untested:
>>>>>
>>>>> Dim db as DAO.Database
>>>>> Dim rs as DAO.Recordset
>>>>>
>>>>> Set db = CurrentDb
>>>>> Set rs = db.OpenRecordset("Select fldOne, fldTwo, fldThree FROM
>>>>> tblMyTable
>>>>> WHERE fldPK = " & lngPrimaryKey)
>>>>>
>>>>> ' Note: You could use any criteria you want in the WHERE clause;
>>>>> doesn't
>>>>> have to be the primary key.
>>>>>
>>>>> rs.Edit
>>>>> rs!fldOne = cboComboBox1
>>>>> rs!fldTwo = cboComboBox2
>>>>> rs!fldThree = cboComboBox3
>>>>> rs.Update
>>>>>
>>>>> rs.Close
>>>>> db.Close
>>>>>
>>>>> set rs = Nothing
>>>>> set db = Nothing
>>>>>
>>>>> Me.Requery (assuming you want the values to show on the bound form.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Or here's another approach which I think should work but I haven't
>>>>> tested:
>>>>>
>>>>> Set db = CurrentDb
>>>>> Db.Execute "UPDATE tblMyTable SET tblMyTable.fldOne = '" & 
>>>>> cboComboBox1
>>>>> &
>>>>> "', tblMyTable.fldTwo= '" & cboComboBox2 & "', tblMyTable.fldThree = 
>>>>> '"
>>>>> &
>>>>> cboComboBox3 & "';"
>>>>>
>>>>> Note that I have assumes that the values are string values and so need
>>>>> to
>>>>> have preceding and following apostrophes.  If the values are numeric
>>>>> then
>>>>> they won't need the '.
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm sure someone else looking at this code will make the appropriate
>>>>> corrections.
>>>>>
>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>
>>>>> Rocky
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>>>>> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Pedro
>>>>> Janssen
>>>>> Sent: Thursday, November 23, 2006 3:35 PM
>>>>> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
>>>>> Subject: Re: [AccessD] saving values
>>>>>
>>>>> Hello Rocky,
>>>>>
>>>>> could you give me an example of that, preferably in a example 
>>>>> database.
>>>>> I have tried several things until now but nothing is working perfect.
>>>>>
>>>>> Pedro Janssen
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>>>> From: "Beach Access Software" <bchacc at san.rr.com>
>>>>> To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'"
>>>>> <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
>>>>> Sent: Friday, November 24, 2006 12:07 AM
>>>>> Subject: Re: [AccessD] saving values
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> I'd use Dao, open the record in question, push the value in, and
>>>>>> requery
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> form.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Rocky
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>>>>>> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Pedro
>>>>>> Janssen
>>>>>> Sent: 23 November 2006 13:32
>>>>>> To: AccessD
>>>>>> Subject: [AccessD] saving values
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hello Group,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> i still have troubles saving values from unbound comboxes (cascade) 
>>>>>> in
>>>>>> table
>>>>>> fields.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> What is the best way to do this.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Pedro Janssen
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From bchacc at san.rr.com  Mon Nov 27 17:08:24 2006
From: bchacc at san.rr.com (Beach Access Software)
Date: Mon, 27 Nov 2006 15:08:24 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] Designing Reports Bogs Down
Message-ID: <003001c71278$f11550f0$6401a8c0@HAL9005>

Dear List:

 

My Access changed behavior today.  When I go onto design mode on a report
(not of forms, though), and designing I do runs as slow as a stuck pig.

 

So I popped up the task manager and it turns out that every time I move or
copy a control the program spoolsv.exe sucks up 20-50% of the cycles for
5-10 seconds.  

 

I tried repair, but have not tried a complete reinstall.  This does not
happen on machine number2.  Or 3.  Just this, which is (unfortunately) my
primary development box at the moment.

 

Anyone have a clue as to why this should start happening?

 

MTIA

 

Rocky

 



From cfoust at infostatsystems.com  Mon Nov 27 17:51:50 2006
From: cfoust at infostatsystems.com (Charlotte Foust)
Date: Mon, 27 Nov 2006 15:51:50 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] Designing Reports Bogs Down
In-Reply-To: <003001c71278$f11550f0$6401a8c0@HAL9005>
Message-ID: <F55048AF7E974F429BB24597D7355EEA17854B@INFOSERVER04.infostat.local>

What printer is that machine talking to, local or network?  And on that
machine, do you have background printing turned on?  I remember running
into this some time ago, but I can't recall the cause or cure, but
printing to a local printer and having background printing turned off
may help.

Charlotte Foust 

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Beach Access
Software
Sent: Monday, November 27, 2006 3:08 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] Designing Reports Bogs Down

Dear List:

 

My Access changed behavior today.  When I go onto design mode on a
report (not of forms, though), and designing I do runs as slow as a
stuck pig.

 

So I popped up the task manager and it turns out that every time I move
or copy a control the program spoolsv.exe sucks up 20-50% of the cycles
for 5-10 seconds.  

 

I tried repair, but have not tried a complete reinstall.  This does not
happen on machine number2.  Or 3.  Just this, which is (unfortunately)
my primary development box at the moment.

 

Anyone have a clue as to why this should start happening?

 

MTIA

 

Rocky

 

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From bchacc at san.rr.com  Mon Nov 27 17:54:44 2006
From: bchacc at san.rr.com (Beach Access Software)
Date: Mon, 27 Nov 2006 15:54:44 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] Designing Reports Bogs Down
In-Reply-To: <003001c71278$f11550f0$6401a8c0@HAL9005>
Message-ID: <000001c7127f$69aed300$6401a8c0@HAL9005>

Never mind.  Found it (I think).  The printers window showed the default
printer, which was a network printer on another machine, having 1 job in the
queue.  But nothing in the jobs window.  On the machine where this printer
is hooked up it showed zero jobs in the queue.  Even after rebooting the
first machine it still showed one job in the queue.  So I deleted and
reinstalled the printer.

Now when I copy a text box on a report in design mode, spoolsv.exe still
shows up in the task list but only briefly.

Rocky


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Beach Access
Software
Sent: Monday, November 27, 2006 3:08 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] Designing Reports Bogs Down

Dear List:

 

My Access changed behavior today.  When I go onto design mode on a report
(not of forms, though), and designing I do runs as slow as a stuck pig.

 

So I popped up the task manager and it turns out that every time I move or
copy a control the program spoolsv.exe sucks up 20-50% of the cycles for
5-10 seconds.  

 

I tried repair, but have not tried a complete reinstall.  This does not
happen on machine number2.  Or 3.  Just this, which is (unfortunately) my
primary development box at the moment.

 

Anyone have a clue as to why this should start happening?

 

MTIA

 

Rocky

 

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From martyconnelly at shaw.ca  Mon Nov 27 18:00:11 2006
From: martyconnelly at shaw.ca (MartyConnelly)
Date: Mon, 27 Nov 2006 16:00:11 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] Designing Reports Bogs Down
In-Reply-To: <003001c71278$f11550f0$6401a8c0@HAL9005>
References: <003001c71278$f11550f0$6401a8c0@HAL9005>
Message-ID: <456B7C0B.6050306@shaw.ca>

Try turning this off, Track name AutoCorrect
Tools >> Options >> General >>.Track name AutoCorrect info should be off.

http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=290181

Also report could be corrupt so use SaveAsText and LoadFromText to
save and rebuild report from text file.


Beach Access Software wrote:

>Dear List:
>
> 
>
>My Access changed behavior today.  When I go onto design mode on a report
>(not of forms, though), and designing I do runs as slow as a stuck pig.
>
> 
>
>So I popped up the task manager and it turns out that every time I move or
>copy a control the program spoolsv.exe sucks up 20-50% of the cycles for
>5-10 seconds.  
>
> 
>
>I tried repair, but have not tried a complete reinstall.  This does not
>happen on machine number2.  Or 3.  Just this, which is (unfortunately) my
>primary development box at the moment.
>
> 
>
>Anyone have a clue as to why this should start happening?
>
> 
>
>MTIA
>
> 
>
>Rocky
>
> 
>
>  
>

-- 
Marty Connelly
Victoria, B.C.
Canada



From bchacc at san.rr.com  Mon Nov 27 18:33:30 2006
From: bchacc at san.rr.com (Beach Access Software)
Date: Mon, 27 Nov 2006 16:33:30 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] Designing Reports Bogs Down
In-Reply-To: <456B7C0B.6050306@shaw.ca>
Message-ID: <000001c71284$d47f15f0$6401a8c0@HAL9005>

It was already turned off by default (I guess MS finally learned their
lesson about this 'feature').  But I think I've traced the problem to a bad
remote printer queue.  Had to delete and reinstall the printer.

Rocky


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of MartyConnelly
Sent: Monday, November 27, 2006 4:00 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Designing Reports Bogs Down

Try turning this off, Track name AutoCorrect
Tools >> Options >> General >>.Track name AutoCorrect info should be off.

http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=290181

Also report could be corrupt so use SaveAsText and LoadFromText to
save and rebuild report from text file.


Beach Access Software wrote:

>Dear List:
>
> 
>
>My Access changed behavior today.  When I go onto design mode on a report
>(not of forms, though), and designing I do runs as slow as a stuck pig.
>
> 
>
>So I popped up the task manager and it turns out that every time I move or
>copy a control the program spoolsv.exe sucks up 20-50% of the cycles for
>5-10 seconds.  
>
> 
>
>I tried repair, but have not tried a complete reinstall.  This does not
>happen on machine number2.  Or 3.  Just this, which is (unfortunately) my
>primary development box at the moment.
>
> 
>
>Anyone have a clue as to why this should start happening?
>
> 
>
>MTIA
>
> 
>
>Rocky
>
> 
>
>  
>

-- 
Marty Connelly
Victoria, B.C.
Canada

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From bheid at sc.rr.com  Mon Nov 27 18:55:19 2006
From: bheid at sc.rr.com (Bobby Heid)
Date: Mon, 27 Nov 2006 19:55:19 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Designing Reports Bogs Down
In-Reply-To: <003001c71278$f11550f0$6401a8c0@HAL9005>
Message-ID: <000301c71287$e1396b30$2d01a8c0@bhxp>

I just noticed this happening to me today also!  And all I did was rebuild
from source.

Bobby 

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Beach Access
Software
Sent: Monday, November 27, 2006 6:08 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] Designing Reports Bogs Down

Dear List:

 

My Access changed behavior today.  When I go onto design mode on a report
(not of forms, though), and designing I do runs as slow as a stuck pig.

 

So I popped up the task manager and it turns out that every time I move or
copy a control the program spoolsv.exe sucks up 20-50% of the cycles for
5-10 seconds.  

 

I tried repair, but have not tried a complete reinstall.  This does not
happen on machine number2.  Or 3.  Just this, which is (unfortunately) my
primary development box at the moment.

 

Anyone have a clue as to why this should start happening?

 

MTIA

 

Rocky



From kp at sdsonline.net  Mon Nov 27 19:22:52 2006
From: kp at sdsonline.net (Kath Pelletti)
Date: Tue, 28 Nov 2006 12:22:52 +1100
Subject: [AccessD] vba bookmarks unreliable Access 2003?
Message-ID: <000a01c7128b$badf02c0$6501a8c0@office>

Has anyone noticed that when you create bookmarks in the code window in Access 2003 you can't always move from one to another ? Seems to get itself stuck......sometime it works and sometimes no luck. V. annoying..

______________________________________
Kath Pelletti
Software Design and Solutions Pty Ltd.
Ph: 9505-6714
Fax: 9505-6430
Email: KP at SDSOnline.net

From kp at sdsonline.net  Mon Nov 27 19:36:27 2006
From: kp at sdsonline.net (Kath Pelletti)
Date: Tue, 28 Nov 2006 12:36:27 +1100
Subject: [AccessD] Upgrading from Access 2000 to 2003
Message-ID: <001201c7128d$a00b1cc0$6501a8c0@office>

I've been keeping track of issues I have faced when I had to upgrade a client's system from Access 2000 to 2003 this month. 

I thought it might be worthwhile posting my brief list in case anyone else needs to do the same - and maybe those of you who have worked in 2003 more than I have can add to it.....

- Start with new 2003 database, and change default file format to 2002-2003 before importing all objects, file import specs, relationships.
- Recreate Startup options and update all references
- Check all report settings for reports which do not use the default printer. (I found that those that use a specific printer, eg. pdf995 had reverted to default printer on import).
- Check that toolbars are displayed. Even though they are imported, I found that I had to turn then on manually (change properties to allow them to be turned on / turn them on / change properties back again)
- All references to the commondialog control need to be re-written (browse / save dialogues)
- Change the [Tools] [Macro] [Security] level to Low to prevent users getting the msg "Do you want to block unsafe expressions?"
- There is a new level of error checking in 2003. Any controls that do not have tne control source in a form's source will create new error messages (shouldn't have any of those but it found a couple!) . Error checking levels can be adjusted thru the menu. (tools, options, error checking).

______________________________________
Kath Pelletti


From kp at sdsonline.net  Mon Nov 27 20:27:26 2006
From: kp at sdsonline.net (Kath Pelletti)
Date: Tue, 28 Nov 2006 13:27:26 +1100
Subject: [AccessD] Rich text control as html
Message-ID: <001901c71294$bf6c8b10$6501a8c0@office>

Can anyone recommend a text box control I could get which would allow me to display it in a form and allow users full format ability (need to change fonts / colour, bold , bullets, paragraph indents etc).

I then need to export the contents of the field to an external mdb where it gets read from for the website. The web developer has asked me to use a control which exports in html format so he can read the formatting and display as the users defined it in the mdb.
(Access 2003)

______________________________________
Kath Pelletti
Software Design and Solutions Pty Ltd.
Ph: 9505-6714
Fax: 9505-6430
Email: KP at SDSOnline.net

From stuart at lexacorp.com.pg  Mon Nov 27 21:41:04 2006
From: stuart at lexacorp.com.pg (Stuart McLachlan)
Date: Tue, 28 Nov 2006 13:41:04 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] Rich text control as html
In-Reply-To: <001901c71294$bf6c8b10$6501a8c0@office>
References: <001901c71294$bf6c8b10$6501a8c0@office>
Message-ID: <456C3C70.18365.15A0C525@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>

On 28 Nov 2006 at 13:27, Kath Pelletti wrote:

> Can anyone recommend a text box control I could get which would allow
> me to display it in a form and allow users full format ability (need
> to change fonts / colour, bold , bullets, paragraph indents etc). 
> 

> I then need to export the contents of the field to an external mdb
> where it gets read from for the website. The web developer has asked
> me to use a control which exports in html format so he can read the
> formatting and display as the users defined it in the mdb. (Access
> 2003) 


How much do you want to spend?

"TX Text Control" , "TE Edit Control" with the "HTML Add-on" and "SpellEditor"  are all good but expensive options.

http://www.textcontrol.com/
http://www.subsystems.com/
http://www.spelltext.com/aboutspe.htm





From adtp at airtelbroadband.in  Mon Nov 27 23:49:56 2006
From: adtp at airtelbroadband.in (A.D.TEJPAL)
Date: Tue, 28 Nov 2006 11:19:56 +0530
Subject: [AccessD] Checking control property in an external mde database
References: <001501c7109b$2bb0f0a0$6401a8c0@HAL9005>
Message-ID: <012301c712b1$5eebede0$6d2a177d@pcadt>

Rocky,

    For accessing control's properties, the form has to be open either in design or run time view. In case of mde, design view is ruled out.

    Function Fn_IsControlVisibleInExternalDb() as given below, will get you the visible status of desired control in external db. Though it involves opening & closing of target form in external db, the process remains invisible to the user.

    Note - If the target form is in datasheet view, mere checking of visible property does not conclusively establish whether the column in question is displayed or not. For that, ColumnHidden property has to be verified. Interestingly, ColumnHidden property is detectable only at run time (not in design view).

Best wishes,
A.D.Tejpal
----------------

=====================================
Function Fn_IsControlVisibleInExternalDb( _
                ByVal FilePath As String, _
                ByVal FormName As String, _
                ByVal ControlName As String) As Boolean
    ' Returns True if the control is visible.
    ' Otherwise False
    On Error GoTo ErrTrap
    Dim acp As Access.Application
    
    Fn_IsControlVisibleInExternalDb = False     ' Default
    
    Set acp = New Access.Application
    acp.OpenCurrentDatabase FilePath
    
    acp.DoCmd.OpenForm FormName
    
    If acp.Forms(FormName)(ControlName).Visible _
                                                            = True Then
        Fn_IsControlVisibleInExternalDb = True
    End If
    acp.DoCmd.Close acForm, FormName
    
ExitPoint:
    On Error Resume Next
    acp.Quit
    Set acp = Nothing
    On Error GoTo 0
    Exit Function

ErrTrap:
    MsgBox "Err " & Err.Number & " - " & Err.Description
    Resume ExitPoint
End Function
=====================================

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Beach Access Software 
  To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' 
  Sent: Saturday, November 25, 2006 19:38
  Subject: [AccessD] Checking control property in an external mde database


  Dear List: 

  Is it possible to check the visible property of a control on a form in
  another database which is an mde?  Would it be necessary to have that database is currently open with that form opened? 

  MTIA 

  Rocky

From bchacc at san.rr.com  Tue Nov 28 00:05:17 2006
From: bchacc at san.rr.com (Beach Access Software)
Date: Mon, 27 Nov 2006 22:05:17 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] Checking control property in an external mde database
In-Reply-To: <012301c712b1$5eebede0$6d2a177d@pcadt>
Message-ID: <001c01c712b3$2e114c40$6401a8c0@HAL9005>

A.D.:

Thanks for that function.  My Chinese distributor wants to be able to make
demo systems over there. I want to let them make demos only from the very
restricted 35 part version.  So if the 35 part limit label is visible in the
mde, I will let the program run which creates an encrypted key with a thirty
day limit.

This will solve the problem.

Thanks and regards,

Rocky
  

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of A.D.TEJPAL
Sent: Monday, November 27, 2006 9:50 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Checking control property in an external mde database

Rocky,

    For accessing control's properties, the form has to be open either in
design or run time view. In case of mde, design view is ruled out.

    Function Fn_IsControlVisibleInExternalDb() as given below, will get you
the visible status of desired control in external db. Though it involves
opening & closing of target form in external db, the process remains
invisible to the user.

    Note - If the target form is in datasheet view, mere checking of visible
property does not conclusively establish whether the column in question is
displayed or not. For that, ColumnHidden property has to be verified.
Interestingly, ColumnHidden property is detectable only at run time (not in
design view).

Best wishes,
A.D.Tejpal
----------------

=====================================
Function Fn_IsControlVisibleInExternalDb( _
                ByVal FilePath As String, _
                ByVal FormName As String, _
                ByVal ControlName As String) As Boolean
    ' Returns True if the control is visible.
    ' Otherwise False
    On Error GoTo ErrTrap
    Dim acp As Access.Application
    
    Fn_IsControlVisibleInExternalDb = False     ' Default
    
    Set acp = New Access.Application
    acp.OpenCurrentDatabase FilePath
    
    acp.DoCmd.OpenForm FormName
    
    If acp.Forms(FormName)(ControlName).Visible _
                                                            = True Then
        Fn_IsControlVisibleInExternalDb = True
    End If
    acp.DoCmd.Close acForm, FormName
    
ExitPoint:
    On Error Resume Next
    acp.Quit
    Set acp = Nothing
    On Error GoTo 0
    Exit Function

ErrTrap:
    MsgBox "Err " & Err.Number & " - " & Err.Description
    Resume ExitPoint
End Function
=====================================

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Beach Access Software 
  To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' 
  Sent: Saturday, November 25, 2006 19:38
  Subject: [AccessD] Checking control property in an external mde database


  Dear List: 

  Is it possible to check the visible property of a control on a form in
  another database which is an mde?  Would it be necessary to have that
database is currently open with that form opened? 

  MTIA 

  Rocky
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From bheygood at abestsystems.com  Tue Nov 28 00:05:47 2006
From: bheygood at abestsystems.com (Bob Heygood)
Date: Mon, 27 Nov 2006 22:05:47 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] DAO Field Name String/Variable
In-Reply-To: <002401c71274$2bcb2b70$6401a8c0@HAL9005>
Message-ID: <AIEKKBIAKDJNAFGABNJKAEOPGOAA.bheygood@abestsystems.com>

Hey Rocky,
Yeah, but i was truing to use teh !String convention.
Oh well workied around it.

Looks like i missed teh rain back home.

See you soon.

bob


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Beach Access
Software
Sent: Monday, November 27, 2006 2:34 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: Re: [AccessD] DAO Field Name String/Variable


Bob:

Right off the top of my head, I think, after you get the field name from the
first recordset into a string variable like strFieldName, then in the second
recordset you'd want to use rs2(strFieldName) to get reference the value
from that field of the record that recordset rs2 is currently pointing to.

Clear as mud?

Call me if you want to - 858-259-4334.

Rocky




-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Bob Heygood
Sent: Monday, November 27, 2006 2:20 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] DAO Field Name String/Variable

in my example the field names are in table 1.

Sorry i'm Vegas working on a laptop.....
Will visit soon.

bob




-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Beach Access
Software
Sent: Monday, November 27, 2006 12:20 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: Re: [AccessD] DAO Field Name String/Variable


So table one contains the field names of table 2?

Rocky

P.S. Swing by my office with your laptop and I'll do it for you on the spot
(yes I have an ulterior motive).


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Bob Heygood
Sent: Monday, November 27, 2006 11:24 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: [AccessD] DAO Fiekd Name String/Variable

Hello to the list,

I woild like to:
1. get a value from one table as a string
2. lookup the value of a field in a second table
where the field name = the value of field in table 1
Using !s if possible.

TIA

best


Bob

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From wdhindman at dejpolsystems.com  Tue Nov 28 00:21:44 2006
From: wdhindman at dejpolsystems.com (William Hindman)
Date: Tue, 28 Nov 2006 01:21:44 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Rich text control as html
References: <001901c71294$bf6c8b10$6501a8c0@office>
	<456C3C70.18365.15A0C525@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>
Message-ID: <002201c712b5$7ab98e70$3e3de844@50NM721>

Kath

www.lebans.com ...look for his RTF ocx ...its free and works well in all 
versions A97-A2k3 ...plus he's on the msaccess newsgroups regularly and will 
answer any problems you might have in your implementation if you post it 
there ...I use it in several apps to allow user edit and format of text 
portions of reports that go to their customers ...since the rtf is stored in 
an mdb table you should be able to export it as html using Access' own 
export capabilities.

William Hindman

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Stuart McLachlan" <stuart at lexacorp.com.pg>
To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving" 
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Monday, November 27, 2006 10:41 PM
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Rich text control as html


> On 28 Nov 2006 at 13:27, Kath Pelletti wrote:
>
>> Can anyone recommend a text box control I could get which would allow
>> me to display it in a form and allow users full format ability (need
>> to change fonts / colour, bold , bullets, paragraph indents etc).
>>
>
>> I then need to export the contents of the field to an external mdb
>> where it gets read from for the website. The web developer has asked
>> me to use a control which exports in html format so he can read the
>> formatting and display as the users defined it in the mdb. (Access
>> 2003)
>
>
> How much do you want to spend?
>
> "TX Text Control" , "TE Edit Control" with the "HTML Add-on" and 
> "SpellEditor"  are all good but expensive options.
>
> http://www.textcontrol.com/
> http://www.subsystems.com/
> http://www.spelltext.com/aboutspe.htm
>
>
>
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From stuart at lexacorp.com.pg  Tue Nov 28 00:49:09 2006
From: stuart at lexacorp.com.pg (Stuart McLachlan)
Date: Tue, 28 Nov 2006 16:49:09 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] Rich text control as html
In-Reply-To: <002201c712b5$7ab98e70$3e3de844@50NM721>
References: <001901c71294$bf6c8b10$6501a8c0@office>,
	<002201c712b5$7ab98e70$3e3de844@50NM721>
Message-ID: <456C6885.23119.164CF691@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>

On 28 Nov 2006 at 1:21, William Hindman wrote:

> Kath
> 
> www.lebans.com ...look for his RTF ocx ...its free and works well in all 
> versions A97-A2k3 ...plus he's on the msaccess newsgroups regularly and will 
> answer any problems you might have in your implementation if you post it 
> there ...I use it in several apps to allow user edit and format of text 
> portions of reports that go to their customers ...since the rtf is stored in 
> an mdb table you should be able to export it as html using Access' own 
> export capabilities.


Alternatively, once you have the text as RTF,  use
RTF2HTML from http://www2.bitstream.net/~bradyh/downloads/rtf2htmlrm.html
to convert the RFT string to an HTML string and use standard File IO to write the string to a file.









From wdhindman at dejpolsystems.com  Tue Nov 28 00:58:48 2006
From: wdhindman at dejpolsystems.com (William Hindman)
Date: Tue, 28 Nov 2006 01:58:48 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Checking control property in an external mde database
References: <001c01c712b3$2e114c40$6401a8c0@HAL9005>
Message-ID: <000501c712ba$a82ce500$3e3de844@50NM721>

...isn't it fairly easy to modify labels on mde forms using 3rd party 
software?

William Hindman

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Beach Access Software" <bchacc at san.rr.com>
To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'" 
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Tuesday, November 28, 2006 1:05 AM
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Checking control property in an external mde database


> A.D.:
>
> Thanks for that function.  My Chinese distributor wants to be able to make
> demo systems over there. I want to let them make demos only from the very
> restricted 35 part version.  So if the 35 part limit label is visible in 
> the
> mde, I will let the program run which creates an encrypted key with a 
> thirty
> day limit.
>
> This will solve the problem.
>
> Thanks and regards,
>
> Rocky
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of A.D.TEJPAL
> Sent: Monday, November 27, 2006 9:50 PM
> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] Checking control property in an external mde 
> database
>
> Rocky,
>
>    For accessing control's properties, the form has to be open either in
> design or run time view. In case of mde, design view is ruled out.
>
>    Function Fn_IsControlVisibleInExternalDb() as given below, will get you
> the visible status of desired control in external db. Though it involves
> opening & closing of target form in external db, the process remains
> invisible to the user.
>
>    Note - If the target form is in datasheet view, mere checking of 
> visible
> property does not conclusively establish whether the column in question is
> displayed or not. For that, ColumnHidden property has to be verified.
> Interestingly, ColumnHidden property is detectable only at run time (not 
> in
> design view).
>
> Best wishes,
> A.D.Tejpal
> ----------------
>
> =====================================
> Function Fn_IsControlVisibleInExternalDb( _
>                ByVal FilePath As String, _
>                ByVal FormName As String, _
>                ByVal ControlName As String) As Boolean
>    ' Returns True if the control is visible.
>    ' Otherwise False
>    On Error GoTo ErrTrap
>    Dim acp As Access.Application
>
>    Fn_IsControlVisibleInExternalDb = False     ' Default
>
>    Set acp = New Access.Application
>    acp.OpenCurrentDatabase FilePath
>
>    acp.DoCmd.OpenForm FormName
>
>    If acp.Forms(FormName)(ControlName).Visible _
>                                                            = True Then
>        Fn_IsControlVisibleInExternalDb = True
>    End If
>    acp.DoCmd.Close acForm, FormName
>
> ExitPoint:
>    On Error Resume Next
>    acp.Quit
>    Set acp = Nothing
>    On Error GoTo 0
>    Exit Function
>
> ErrTrap:
>    MsgBox "Err " & Err.Number & " - " & Err.Description
>    Resume ExitPoint
> End Function
> =====================================
>
>  ----- Original Message ----- 
>  From: Beach Access Software
>  To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
>  Sent: Saturday, November 25, 2006 19:38
>  Subject: [AccessD] Checking control property in an external mde database
>
>
>  Dear List:
>
>  Is it possible to check the visible property of a control on a form in
>  another database which is an mde?  Would it be necessary to have that
> database is currently open with that form opened?
>
>  MTIA
>
>  Rocky
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From michael at ddisolutions.com.au  Tue Nov 28 03:46:02 2006
From: michael at ddisolutions.com.au (Michael Maddison)
Date: Tue, 28 Nov 2006 20:46:02 +1100
Subject: [AccessD] TableDefs.Append issue
Message-ID: <59A61174B1F5B54B97FD4ADDE71E7D0116AD36@ddi-01.DDI.local>

Hi all,

I'm writing a tool for a client that requested VB6 FE and Access (2003)
BE.

I need to import some dbf files.
What I've done is create a link to the dbf file using
DAO.TableDefs.Append

Works fine when I step through the code...
Take out the breakpoints and I get 'table cannot be found errors'

It seems that the tdf doesn't refresh quickly enough, I do call refresh
after the append.

What to do?

cheers

Michael M


From JRojas at tnco-inc.com  Tue Nov 28 07:48:19 2006
From: JRojas at tnco-inc.com (Joe Rojas)
Date: Tue, 28 Nov 2006 08:48:19 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Problem linking to an ODBC table
Message-ID: <758E92433C4F3740B67BE4DD369AF5772EDF6E@ex2k3.corp.tnco-inc.com>

Hello,

I am using Access 2003 to connect to a Progress OpenEdge 10 database via
ODBC.
Everything is setup correctly but I am having a problem connecting to
one particular table.

Each time I try to connect to it, I get an error message that says "The
size of a field is too long."

Any ideas for a possible work around?

Thanks,
Joe Rojas
IT Manager
TNCO, Inc.
781-447-6661 x7506
jrojas at tnco-inc.com


From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com  Tue Nov 28 07:48:15 2006
From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (JWColby)
Date: Tue, 28 Nov 2006 08:48:15 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Outer join speed
Message-ID: <002a01c712f3$db344fe0$657aa8c0@m6805>

Are outer joins inherently any slower than inner joins?  In particular is an
outer join slower where the number of records pulled is equal to the number
pulled using an inner join?
 
John W. Colby
Colby Consulting
www.ColbyConsulting.com
 


From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com  Tue Nov 28 08:14:07 2006
From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (JWColby)
Date: Tue, 28 Nov 2006 09:14:07 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Problem linking to an ODBC table
In-Reply-To: <758E92433C4F3740B67BE4DD369AF5772EDF6E@ex2k3.corp.tnco-inc.com>
Message-ID: <002f01c712f7$780df070$657aa8c0@m6805>

If I had to guess, I would say that one field in the table you are linking
to is able to contain more data than Access can handle.  Perhaps Access is
mapping a field as text when it actually contains more data than a text
field can handle (255 characters).  Or perhaps there is a field that Access
simply does not understand how to map, contains a data type that Access
simply cannot handle.  I would look at the table itself, inside of OpenEdge
and see what kinds of data the table contains. 


John W. Colby
Colby Consulting
www.ColbyConsulting.com

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Joe Rojas
Sent: Tuesday, November 28, 2006 8:48 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: [AccessD] Problem linking to an ODBC table

Hello,

I am using Access 2003 to connect to a Progress OpenEdge 10 database via
ODBC.
Everything is setup correctly but I am having a problem connecting to one
particular table.

Each time I try to connect to it, I get an error message that says "The size
of a field is too long."

Any ideas for a possible work around?

Thanks,
Joe Rojas
IT Manager
TNCO, Inc.
781-447-6661 x7506
jrojas at tnco-inc.com
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From bchacc at san.rr.com  Tue Nov 28 08:50:30 2006
From: bchacc at san.rr.com (Beach Access Software)
Date: Tue, 28 Nov 2006 06:50:30 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] DAO Field Name String/Variable
In-Reply-To: <AIEKKBIAKDJNAFGABNJKAEOPGOAA.bheygood@abestsystems.com>
Message-ID: <003701c712fc$8cef4ca0$6401a8c0@HAL9005>

Yeah, real gully washer.  As you know we had several hundredths of an inch
last week - our first in about nine months - and 90 accidents on the
freeways.  Yesterday we had 9 hundredths of an inch!!! With commensurate
loss of life and property.  

Rocky


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Bob Heygood
Sent: Monday, November 27, 2006 10:06 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] DAO Field Name String/Variable

Hey Rocky,
Yeah, but i was truing to use teh !String convention.
Oh well workied around it.

Looks like i missed teh rain back home.

See you soon.

bob


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Beach Access
Software
Sent: Monday, November 27, 2006 2:34 PM
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Subject: Re: [AccessD] DAO Field Name String/Variable


Bob:

Right off the top of my head, I think, after you get the field name from the
first recordset into a string variable like strFieldName, then in the second
recordset you'd want to use rs2(strFieldName) to get reference the value
from that field of the record that recordset rs2 is currently pointing to.

Clear as mud?

Call me if you want to - 858-259-4334.

Rocky




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[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Bob Heygood
Sent: Monday, November 27, 2006 2:20 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] DAO Field Name String/Variable

in my example the field names are in table 1.

Sorry i'm Vegas working on a laptop.....
Will visit soon.

bob




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Sent: Monday, November 27, 2006 12:20 PM
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Subject: Re: [AccessD] DAO Field Name String/Variable


So table one contains the field names of table 2?

Rocky

P.S. Swing by my office with your laptop and I'll do it for you on the spot
(yes I have an ulterior motive).


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Sent: Monday, November 27, 2006 11:24 AM
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Subject: [AccessD] DAO Fiekd Name String/Variable

Hello to the list,

I woild like to:
1. get a value from one table as a string
2. lookup the value of a field in a second table
where the field name = the value of field in table 1
Using !s if possible.

TIA

best


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From bchacc at san.rr.com  Tue Nov 28 08:51:51 2006
From: bchacc at san.rr.com (Beach Access Software)
Date: Tue, 28 Nov 2006 06:51:51 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] Checking control property in an external mde database
In-Reply-To: <000501c712ba$a82ce500$3e3de844@50NM721>
Message-ID: <003801c712fc$bd55e4d0$6401a8c0@HAL9005>

I use the best first party software from A.D. Tejpal, Pty.  Who you gonna
call?

Rocky


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[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of William Hindman
Sent: Monday, November 27, 2006 10:59 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Checking control property in an external mde database

...isn't it fairly easy to modify labels on mde forms using 3rd party 
software?

William Hindman

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Sent: Tuesday, November 28, 2006 1:05 AM
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Checking control property in an external mde database


> A.D.:
>
> Thanks for that function.  My Chinese distributor wants to be able to make
> demo systems over there. I want to let them make demos only from the very
> restricted 35 part version.  So if the 35 part limit label is visible in 
> the
> mde, I will let the program run which creates an encrypted key with a 
> thirty
> day limit.
>
> This will solve the problem.
>
> Thanks and regards,
>
> Rocky
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of A.D.TEJPAL
> Sent: Monday, November 27, 2006 9:50 PM
> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] Checking control property in an external mde 
> database
>
> Rocky,
>
>    For accessing control's properties, the form has to be open either in
> design or run time view. In case of mde, design view is ruled out.
>
>    Function Fn_IsControlVisibleInExternalDb() as given below, will get you
> the visible status of desired control in external db. Though it involves
> opening & closing of target form in external db, the process remains
> invisible to the user.
>
>    Note - If the target form is in datasheet view, mere checking of 
> visible
> property does not conclusively establish whether the column in question is
> displayed or not. For that, ColumnHidden property has to be verified.
> Interestingly, ColumnHidden property is detectable only at run time (not 
> in
> design view).
>
> Best wishes,
> A.D.Tejpal
> ----------------
>
> =====================================
> Function Fn_IsControlVisibleInExternalDb( _
>                ByVal FilePath As String, _
>                ByVal FormName As String, _
>                ByVal ControlName As String) As Boolean
>    ' Returns True if the control is visible.
>    ' Otherwise False
>    On Error GoTo ErrTrap
>    Dim acp As Access.Application
>
>    Fn_IsControlVisibleInExternalDb = False     ' Default
>
>    Set acp = New Access.Application
>    acp.OpenCurrentDatabase FilePath
>
>    acp.DoCmd.OpenForm FormName
>
>    If acp.Forms(FormName)(ControlName).Visible _
>                                                            = True Then
>        Fn_IsControlVisibleInExternalDb = True
>    End If
>    acp.DoCmd.Close acForm, FormName
>
> ExitPoint:
>    On Error Resume Next
>    acp.Quit
>    Set acp = Nothing
>    On Error GoTo 0
>    Exit Function
>
> ErrTrap:
>    MsgBox "Err " & Err.Number & " - " & Err.Description
>    Resume ExitPoint
> End Function
> =====================================
>
>  ----- Original Message ----- 
>  From: Beach Access Software
>  To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
>  Sent: Saturday, November 25, 2006 19:38
>  Subject: [AccessD] Checking control property in an external mde database
>
>
>  Dear List:
>
>  Is it possible to check the visible property of a control on a form in
>  another database which is an mde?  Would it be necessary to have that
> database is currently open with that form opened?
>
>  MTIA
>
>  Rocky
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From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com  Tue Nov 28 09:15:18 2006
From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (JWColby)
Date: Tue, 28 Nov 2006 10:15:18 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] DAO Field Name String/Variable
In-Reply-To: <003701c712fc$8cef4ca0$6401a8c0@HAL9005>
Message-ID: <003601c71300$04620950$657aa8c0@m6805>

LOL, and even then you get about twice as much per year as they do over the
mountains in Yuma. 


John W. Colby
Colby Consulting
www.ColbyConsulting.com

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[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Beach Access
Software
Sent: Tuesday, November 28, 2006 9:51 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: Re: [AccessD] DAO Field Name String/Variable

Yeah, real gully washer.  As you know we had several hundredths of an inch
last week - our first in about nine months - and 90 accidents on the
freeways.  Yesterday we had 9 hundredths of an inch!!! With commensurate
loss of life and property.  

Rocky


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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Bob Heygood
Sent: Monday, November 27, 2006 10:06 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] DAO Field Name String/Variable

Hey Rocky,
Yeah, but i was truing to use teh !String convention.
Oh well workied around it.

Looks like i missed teh rain back home.

See you soon.

bob


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Software
Sent: Monday, November 27, 2006 2:34 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: Re: [AccessD] DAO Field Name String/Variable


Bob:

Right off the top of my head, I think, after you get the field name from the
first recordset into a string variable like strFieldName, then in the second
recordset you'd want to use rs2(strFieldName) to get reference the value
from that field of the record that recordset rs2 is currently pointing to.

Clear as mud?

Call me if you want to - 858-259-4334.

Rocky




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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Bob Heygood
Sent: Monday, November 27, 2006 2:20 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] DAO Field Name String/Variable

in my example the field names are in table 1.

Sorry i'm Vegas working on a laptop.....
Will visit soon.

bob




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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
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Software
Sent: Monday, November 27, 2006 12:20 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: Re: [AccessD] DAO Field Name String/Variable


So table one contains the field names of table 2?

Rocky

P.S. Swing by my office with your laptop and I'll do it for you on the spot
(yes I have an ulterior motive).


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Sent: Monday, November 27, 2006 11:24 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: [AccessD] DAO Fiekd Name String/Variable

Hello to the list,

I woild like to:
1. get a value from one table as a string 2. lookup the value of a field in
a second table where the field name = the value of field in table 1 Using !s
if possible.

TIA

best


Bob

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From cclenright at yahoo.com  Tue Nov 28 09:40:45 2006
From: cclenright at yahoo.com (Chris Enright)
Date: Tue, 28 Nov 2006 07:40:45 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [AccessD] Text Box Control Source Problem
Message-ID: <515508.89023.qm@web34309.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

I am doing a small job on Access 2K and having strange happenings!
   
  I have a series of Text Boxes in the Form Footer which should add up minutes spent by employees on different tasks. However they are all showing #Error
   
  If I enter into the Control Source of one Text Box:    
   
  =Sum([qryIG_Wed].[DBAdminEventTime])
   
  and try to save it, it changes to 
   
  =Sum(qryIG_Wed.DBAdminEventTime)
   
  If I enter 
   
  =Sum(qryIG_Wed.DBAdminEventTime)
   
  and press Enter, it changes to
   
  =Sum([qryIG_Wed].[DBAdminEventTime])
   
  If I View the Form I have #Error, however if I have the Properties Box open in View Mode and enter
   
  =Sum(qryIG_Wed.DBAdminEventTime)
   
  it converts it to
   
  =Sum([qryIG_Wed].[DBAdminEventTime])
   
  and the correct figure is shown in the Text Box.
   
  I have spent 4 hours on this problem and it is driving me crazy!  I have tried importing everything into a new database. Compacted and repaired. In fact everything I can think of short of using a hammer on the computer. (within the next hour).
  I am sure I am missing something very easy.
   
  Someone help me please
   
  Chris

 
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From rusty.hammond at cpiqpc.com  Tue Nov 28 09:45:50 2006
From: rusty.hammond at cpiqpc.com (rusty.hammond at cpiqpc.com)
Date: Tue, 28 Nov 2006 09:45:50 -0600
Subject: [AccessD] Text Box Control Source Problem
Message-ID: <8301C8A868251E4C8ECD3D4FFEA40F8A2584B71C@cpixchng-1.cpiqpc.net>

Chris,

Try 
=Sum([qryIG_Wed]![DBAdminEventTime])

HTH

Rusty

-----Original Message-----
From: Chris Enright [mailto:cclenright at yahoo.com]
Sent: Tuesday, November 28, 2006 9:41 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: [AccessD] Text Box Control Source Problem


I am doing a small job on Access 2K and having strange happenings!
   
  I have a series of Text Boxes in the Form Footer which should add up
minutes spent by employees on different tasks. However they are all showing
#Error
   
  If I enter into the Control Source of one Text Box:    
   
  =Sum([qryIG_Wed].[DBAdminEventTime])
   
  and try to save it, it changes to 
   
  =Sum(qryIG_Wed.DBAdminEventTime)
   
  If I enter 
   
  =Sum(qryIG_Wed.DBAdminEventTime)
   
  and press Enter, it changes to
   
  =Sum([qryIG_Wed].[DBAdminEventTime])
   
  If I View the Form I have #Error, however if I have the Properties Box
open in View Mode and enter
   
  =Sum(qryIG_Wed.DBAdminEventTime)
   
  it converts it to
   
  =Sum([qryIG_Wed].[DBAdminEventTime])
   
  and the correct figure is shown in the Text Box.
   
  I have spent 4 hours on this problem and it is driving me crazy!  I have
tried importing everything into a new database. Compacted and repaired. In
fact everything I can think of short of using a hammer on the computer.
(within the next hour).
  I am sure I am missing something very easy.
   
  Someone help me please
   
  Chris

 
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From gwsmith at iowatelecom.net  Tue Nov 28 09:46:42 2006
From: gwsmith at iowatelecom.net (Greg Smith)
Date: Tue, 28 Nov 2006 09:46:42 -0600 (CST)
Subject: [AccessD] XML Import Sample File
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	<000001c71274$fa875d30$6401a8c0@nant>
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Shamil:

That is where the issue was.  I changed the SAXXMLReader40 to
SAXXMLReader60 in both places and now it runs without error.  HOWEVER, it
does not do anything.  The table remains empty...nothing is imported. 
Samples 1 & 2 both import from the text files, but neither 3 nor 4 import
anything.  The table, if it has any contents, the contents are deleted and
the table stays empty.

Maybe SAXXMLReader60 will not work?

Thanks!

Greg


=============================
Greg,

I did try sample code with MSXML 6.0 and it worked OK.

Try to debug/trace this function:

My guess the problem is in this function:

Public Function Parse(ByVal vstrURL As String, ByVal vstrTableName As
String, ByVal vavarFields As Variant)
Dim reader As SAXXMLReader40
    mavarFields = vavarFields
    mstrTableName = vstrTableName
    mintFieldIndex = -1
    mintFieldsCount = 0
    Set reader = New SAXXMLReader40
    Set reader.contentHandler = Me
    Set reader.errorHandler = Me
    reader.parseURL vstrURL
End Function

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[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Greg Smith
Sent: Tuesday, November 28, 2006 12:54 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] [Access-D] XML Import Sample File

Hi Shamil:

I'm currently set at MSXML 6 (MSXML6.dll).

Greg

> Hello Greg,
>
> Try to change reference to MSXML v.4.0 or above....
>
> --
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<snip>



From cclenright at yahoo.com  Tue Nov 28 10:04:04 2006
From: cclenright at yahoo.com (Chris Enright)
Date: Tue, 28 Nov 2006 08:04:04 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [AccessD] Text Box Control Source Problem
In-Reply-To: <8301C8A868251E4C8ECD3D4FFEA40F8A2584B71C@cpixchng-1.cpiqpc.net>
Message-ID: <20061128160404.47097.qmail@web34301.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Thanks Rusty, but tried that. Exactly the same results except for dot read bang!
   
  Chris

rusty.hammond at cpiqpc.com wrote:
  Chris,

Try 
=Sum([qryIG_Wed]![DBAdminEventTime])

HTH

Rusty

-----Original Message-----
From: Chris Enright [mailto:cclenright at yahoo.com]
Sent: Tuesday, November 28, 2006 9:41 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: [AccessD] Text Box Control Source Problem


I am doing a small job on Access 2K and having strange happenings!

I have a series of Text Boxes in the Form Footer which should add up
minutes spent by employees on different tasks. However they are all showing
#Error

If I enter into the Control Source of one Text Box: 

=Sum([qryIG_Wed].[DBAdminEventTime])

and try to save it, it changes to 

=Sum(qryIG_Wed.DBAdminEventTime)

If I enter 

=Sum(qryIG_Wed.DBAdminEventTime)

and press Enter, it changes to

=Sum([qryIG_Wed].[DBAdminEventTime])

If I View the Form I have #Error, however if I have the Properties Box
open in View Mode and enter

=Sum(qryIG_Wed.DBAdminEventTime)

it converts it to

=Sum([qryIG_Wed].[DBAdminEventTime])

and the correct figure is shown in the Text Box.

I have spent 4 hours on this problem and it is driving me crazy! I have
tried importing everything into a new database. Compacted and repaired. In
fact everything I can think of short of using a hammer on the computer.
(within the next hour).
I am sure I am missing something very easy.

Someone help me please

Chris


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From shamil at users.mns.ru  Tue Nov 28 10:18:20 2006
From: shamil at users.mns.ru (Shamil Salakhetdinov)
Date: Tue, 28 Nov 2006 19:18:20 +0300
Subject: [AccessD] XML Import Sample File
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Message-ID: <001201c71308$d252b410$6401a8c0@nant>

Hello Greg,

It works well here with MSXML v.6.0 - data are imported:

Public Function Parse(ByVal vstrURL As String, ByVal vstrTableName As
String, ByVal vavarFields As Variant)
Dim reader As SAXXMLReader60 '30
    mavarFields = vavarFields
    mstrTableName = vstrTableName
    mintFieldIndex = -1
    mintFieldsCount = 0
    Set reader = New SAXXMLReader60 '30
    Set reader.contentHandler = Me
    Set reader.errorHandler = Me
    reader.parseURL vstrURL
End Function

I have no clear idea why it doesn't work there on you PC.
Try to put breakpoints and debug/trace it...

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Sent: Tuesday, November 28, 2006 6:47 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] XML Import Sample File

Shamil:

That is where the issue was.  I changed the SAXXMLReader40 to
SAXXMLReader60 in both places and now it runs without error.  HOWEVER, it
does not do anything.  The table remains empty...nothing is imported. 
Samples 1 & 2 both import from the text files, but neither 3 nor 4 import
anything.  The table, if it has any contents, the contents are deleted and
the table stays empty.

Maybe SAXXMLReader60 will not work?

Thanks!

Greg


=============================
Greg,

I did try sample code with MSXML 6.0 and it worked OK.

Try to debug/trace this function:

My guess the problem is in this function:

Public Function Parse(ByVal vstrURL As String, ByVal vstrTableName As
String, ByVal vavarFields As Variant)
Dim reader As SAXXMLReader40
    mavarFields = vavarFields
    mstrTableName = vstrTableName
    mintFieldIndex = -1
    mintFieldsCount = 0
    Set reader = New SAXXMLReader40
    Set reader.contentHandler = Me
    Set reader.errorHandler = Me
    reader.parseURL vstrURL
End Function

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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Greg Smith
Sent: Tuesday, November 28, 2006 12:54 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] [Access-D] XML Import Sample File

Hi Shamil:

I'm currently set at MSXML 6 (MSXML6.dll).

Greg

> Hello Greg,
>
> Try to change reference to MSXML v.4.0 or above....
>
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From andy at minstersystems.co.uk  Tue Nov 28 10:26:21 2006
From: andy at minstersystems.co.uk (Andy Lacey)
Date: Tue, 28 Nov 2006 16:26:21 +0000
Subject: [AccessD] Text Box Control Source Problem
Message-ID: <20061128162626.3983B2C7629@smtp.nildram.co.uk>

I may be missing the point here Chris, in which case I apologise, but
wouldn't

=DSum("DBAdminEventTime","qryIG_Wed")

do it?

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Subject: [AccessD] Text Box Control Source Problem
Date: 28/11/06 15:42


I am doing a small job on Access 2K and having strange happenings!

I have a series of Text Boxes in the Form Footer which should add up minutes
spent by employees on different tasks. However they are all showing #Error

If I enter into the Control Source of one Text Box:

=Sum([qryIG_Wed].[DBAdminEventTime])

and try to save it, it changes to

=Sum(qryIG_Wed.DBAdminEventTime)

If I enter

=Sum(qryIG_Wed.DBAdminEventTime)

and press Enter, it changes to

=Sum([qryIG_Wed].[DBAdminEventTime])

If I View the Form I have #Error, however if I have the Properties Box open
in View Mode and enter

=Sum(qryIG_Wed.DBAdminEventTime)

it converts it to

=Sum([qryIG_Wed].[DBAdminEventTime])

and the correct figure is shown in the Text Box.

I have spent 4 hours on this problem and it is driving me crazy! I have
tried importing everything into a new database. Compacted and repaired. In
fact everything I can think of short of using a hammer on the computer.
(within the next hour).
I am sure I am missing something very easy.

Someone help me please

Chris


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From rusty.hammond at cpiqpc.com  Tue Nov 28 10:37:25 2006
From: rusty.hammond at cpiqpc.com (rusty.hammond at cpiqpc.com)
Date: Tue, 28 Nov 2006 10:37:25 -0600
Subject: [AccessD] Text Box Control Source Problem
Message-ID: <8301C8A868251E4C8ECD3D4FFEA40F8A2584B71E@cpixchng-1.cpiqpc.net>

How about just referencing the field name:

=Sum([DBAdminEventTime])


-----Original Message-----
From: Chris Enright [mailto:cclenright at yahoo.com]
Sent: Tuesday, November 28, 2006 10:04 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Text Box Control Source Problem


Thanks Rusty, but tried that. Exactly the same results except for dot read
bang!
   
  Chris

rusty.hammond at cpiqpc.com wrote:
  Chris,

Try 
=Sum([qryIG_Wed]![DBAdminEventTime])

HTH

Rusty

-----Original Message-----
From: Chris Enright [mailto:cclenright at yahoo.com]
Sent: Tuesday, November 28, 2006 9:41 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: [AccessD] Text Box Control Source Problem


I am doing a small job on Access 2K and having strange happenings!

I have a series of Text Boxes in the Form Footer which should add up
minutes spent by employees on different tasks. However they are all showing
#Error

If I enter into the Control Source of one Text Box: 

=Sum([qryIG_Wed].[DBAdminEventTime])

and try to save it, it changes to 

=Sum(qryIG_Wed.DBAdminEventTime)

If I enter 

=Sum(qryIG_Wed.DBAdminEventTime)

and press Enter, it changes to

=Sum([qryIG_Wed].[DBAdminEventTime])

If I View the Form I have #Error, however if I have the Properties Box
open in View Mode and enter

=Sum(qryIG_Wed.DBAdminEventTime)

it converts it to

=Sum([qryIG_Wed].[DBAdminEventTime])

and the correct figure is shown in the Text Box.

I have spent 4 hours on this problem and it is driving me crazy! I have
tried importing everything into a new database. Compacted and repaired. In
fact everything I can think of short of using a hammer on the computer.
(within the next hour).
I am sure I am missing something very easy.

Someone help me please

Chris


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From cclenright at yahoo.com  Tue Nov 28 10:45:21 2006
From: cclenright at yahoo.com (Chris Enright)
Date: Tue, 28 Nov 2006 08:45:21 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [AccessD] Text Box Control Source Problem
In-Reply-To: <20061128162626.3983B2C7629@smtp.nildram.co.uk>
Message-ID: <20061128164521.50889.qmail@web34311.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Andy,
   
  You didn't and it did! :-)
   
  Many thanks. Go home in twenty minutes and would have worried about it all night.
   
  Out of curiosity, why doesn't the other work?
   
  Many thanks,
   
  Can go to the pub now
   
  Chris

Andy Lacey <andy at minstersystems.co.uk> wrote:
  I may be missing the point here Chris, in which case I apologise, but
wouldn't

=DSum("DBAdminEventTime","qryIG_Wed")

do it?

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To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving"

Subject: [AccessD] Text Box Control Source Problem
Date: 28/11/06 15:42


I am doing a small job on Access 2K and having strange happenings!

I have a series of Text Boxes in the Form Footer which should add up minutes
spent by employees on different tasks. However they are all showing #Error

If I enter into the Control Source of one Text Box:

=Sum([qryIG_Wed].[DBAdminEventTime])

and try to save it, it changes to

=Sum(qryIG_Wed.DBAdminEventTime)

If I enter

=Sum(qryIG_Wed.DBAdminEventTime)

and press Enter, it changes to

=Sum([qryIG_Wed].[DBAdminEventTime])

If I View the Form I have #Error, however if I have the Properties Box open
in View Mode and enter

=Sum(qryIG_Wed.DBAdminEventTime)

it converts it to

=Sum([qryIG_Wed].[DBAdminEventTime])

and the correct figure is shown in the Text Box.

I have spent 4 hours on this problem and it is driving me crazy! I have
tried importing everything into a new database. Compacted and repaired. In
fact everything I can think of short of using a hammer on the computer.
(within the next hour).
I am sure I am missing something very easy.

Someone help me please

Chris


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From bchacc at san.rr.com  Tue Nov 28 10:54:01 2006
From: bchacc at san.rr.com (Beach Access Software)
Date: Tue, 28 Nov 2006 08:54:01 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] saving values
In-Reply-To: <001e01c71278$89ab5130$4001a8c0@qmotionfaa3ad9>
Message-ID: <007101c7130d$cebf61e0$6401a8c0@HAL9005>

Pedro:

Haven't forgotten about you but I'm a little backed up this morning.  Stand
by...

Rocky


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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Pedro Janssen
Sent: Monday, November 27, 2006 3:05 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] saving values

Hello Rocky,

In this testdatabase is just want to make the cascadecombox selection trying

to work, for a major Fossil Database.
The Main Table in the test is tblFossieldata (fossildata). The form 
frmFossielData is bound to that table.
In this table you see the fields Era, Periode, Epoch, Etage and Tijd. These 
are Geological Timetable fields. These fields are just textfields

The table tblTijdschaal (timescale) I filled with the vlues that i want to 
use in the tblFossielData, in the fields that i mentioned before.
Normally i would do this with a combobox for each, but the list of timescale

is very large, so i would simplify that by using a cascadecombo, that is 
present in frmTijdschaal.

When opening a record in frmFossielData, and field Era gets the focus (in 
the real database there wil be a button click event), the unbound subform 
gets the focus.
By using the cascade, Each field is filtered by the value of the combobox 
before.
When selected the values in the five cascade comboboxes, i want to close the

frmTijdschaal en the values of Era.frmTijdschaal must be placed in the field

Era of frmFossielData, etc for the other four fields.

Pedro Janssen


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Beach Access Software" <bchacc at san.rr.com>
To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'" 
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Monday, November 27, 2006 11:31 PM
Subject: Re: [AccessD] saving values


> Pedro:
>
> You are using my variable name lngKeyValue for the criterion in the WHERE
> clause to limit the recordset to the one record you are looking for.  You
> should use the value of the field from the combo box, instead.
>
> And I'm not clear on what you're trying to store or what the relationship 
> is
> between the two tables.  So I can't be more precise.
>
> Tell me again the user process and what you're trying to accomplish.
>
> Regards,
>
> Rocky
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Pedro Janssen
> Sent: Monday, November 27, 2006 11:51 AM
> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] saving values
>
> Hello Rocky,
>
> the message that is get back is "Holy Moly!  There's No Records In 
> Here!!! -
>
> 0
>
> That is strange, because in record two the FossielID (Primary Key of the
> table) value is 2 (auto Number field).
>
> Ik could sent you the small test.mdb,
> maybe you have seen the problem then in a minute?
>
> Pedro Janssen
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Beach Access Software" <bchacc at san.rr.com>
> To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'"
> <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
> Sent: Monday, November 27, 2006 4:39 PM
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] saving values
>
>
>> Pedro:
>>
>> Just a guess but perhaps using the WHERE clause returns no records 
>> because
>> the value for the PK you're using is invalid.
>>
>> After the set rs = statement put
>>
>> If rs.bof=true and rs.eof=true then
>> Msgbox "Holy Moly!  There's No Records In Here!!! - " &
>> lngKeyValue
>> Exit sub
>> End if
>>
>> To see if that's the case and what the value is of the key you're 
>> apssing.
>>
>> Post the set rs = statement and let's have a look at it.
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Rocky
>>
>>
>> If it is then
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Pedro Janssen
>> Sent: Monday, November 27, 2006 6:55 AM
>> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
>> Subject: Re: [AccessD] saving values
>>
>> Hello Rocky,
>>
>> i included the Where statement, but get an eror when closing the subform
>> with the code:
>> Runtime error 3201, no current record.
>> When clicking debug button, rs!edit is highlited yellow.
>>
>> I used help, but still do not understand it.
>>
>> Pedro Janssen
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Beach Access Software" <bchacc at san.rr.com>
>> To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'"
>> <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
>> Sent: Monday, November 27, 2006 2:59 AM
>> Subject: Re: [AccessD] saving values
>>
>>
>>> Pedro:
>>>
>>> You need to add the WHERE clause to your set statement:
>>>
>>> Set rs = db.OpenRecordset("Select Era, Periode, Epoch, Etage, Tijd FROM
>>> tblFossielData WHERE tblFossielDataPrimaryKey = " & lngKeyValue)
>>>
>>> Do you know what the primary key value is of the record you want to
>>> update
>>> with the values from the unbound text boxes?
>>>
>>> Rocky
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>>> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Pedro Janssen
>>> Sent: Sunday, November 26, 2006 2:31 AM
>>> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
>>> Subject: Re: [AccessD] saving values
>>>
>>> Hello,
>>>
>>> how would i point to the first record in the Where clausule with the ID?
>>> I am placing values from a unbound form, with no ID in a bound form with
>>> an
>>> ID (= FossielID).
>>>
>>>
>>> Please give me an idea to do this in the code below?
>>>
>>> Pedro Janssen
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>> From: "Beach Access Software" <bchacc at san.rr.com>
>>> To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'"
>>> <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
>>> Sent: Saturday, November 25, 2006 10:30 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [AccessD] saving values
>>>
>>>
>>>> Pedro:
>>>>
>>>> It looks like you are opening the table with all of the records.  So 
>>>> the
>>>> record pointer of the recor4dset is always pointing to the first 
>>>> record.
>>>> You need to either 1) use a WHERE clause in the Set rs =
>>>> db.OpenRecordset
>>>> so
>>>> you get only the record you want, or 2) after opening the recordset use
>>>> rs.FindFirst and specify the primary key of the record you want to
>>>> update.
>>>> Then the recordset will be positioned at the record you want to update.
>>>> Be
>>>> sure to use if rs.NoMatch just in case the FindFirst doesn't find the
>>>> record.
>>>>
>>>> Regards,
>>>>
>>>> Rocky
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>>>> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Pedro 
>>>> Janssen
>>>> Sent: Saturday, November 25, 2006 12:37 PM
>>>> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
>>>> Subject: Re: [AccessD] saving values
>>>>
>>>> Hello Rocky (and Others),
>>>>
>>>> the code is working fine, but only for the first record on the form.
>>>> When i try to use it on the second record (after closing) it jumps to
>>>> record
>>>>
>>>> one and overwrite's the data there.
>>>> Trying to put the where statement in it to state that ID = ID, it gives
>>>> an
>>>> error on record two that it expects parameter = 1.
>>>>
>>>> The code that i use now:
>>>>
>>>> Private Sub Form_Close()
>>>>
>>>> Dim db As DAO.Database
>>>> Dim rs As DAO.Recordset
>>>>
>>>> Set db = CurrentDb
>>>> Set rs = db.OpenRecordset("Select Era, Periode, Epoch, Etage, Tijd FROM
>>>> tblFossielData")
>>>>
>>>> rs.Edit
>>>> rs!Era = cboEra
>>>> rs!Periode = cboPeriode
>>>> rs!Epoch = cboEpoch
>>>> rs!Etage = cboEtage
>>>> rs!Tijd = cboTijd
>>>> rs.Update
>>>>
>>>> rs.Close
>>>> db.Close
>>>>
>>>> Set rs = Nothing
>>>> Set db = Nothing
>>>>
>>>> Me.Requery
>>>>
>>>> End Sub
>>>>
>>>> What can i do about this?
>>>>
>>>> Pedro Janssen
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>>> From: "Beach Access Software" <bchacc at san.rr.com>
>>>> To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'"
>>>> <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
>>>> Sent: Friday, November 24, 2006 9:09 PM
>>>> Subject: Re: [AccessD] saving values
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Pedro:
>>>>>
>>>>> Just off the top and untested:
>>>>>
>>>>> Dim db as DAO.Database
>>>>> Dim rs as DAO.Recordset
>>>>>
>>>>> Set db = CurrentDb
>>>>> Set rs = db.OpenRecordset("Select fldOne, fldTwo, fldThree FROM
>>>>> tblMyTable
>>>>> WHERE fldPK = " & lngPrimaryKey)
>>>>>
>>>>> ' Note: You could use any criteria you want in the WHERE clause;
>>>>> doesn't
>>>>> have to be the primary key.
>>>>>
>>>>> rs.Edit
>>>>> rs!fldOne = cboComboBox1
>>>>> rs!fldTwo = cboComboBox2
>>>>> rs!fldThree = cboComboBox3
>>>>> rs.Update
>>>>>
>>>>> rs.Close
>>>>> db.Close
>>>>>
>>>>> set rs = Nothing
>>>>> set db = Nothing
>>>>>
>>>>> Me.Requery (assuming you want the values to show on the bound form.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Or here's another approach which I think should work but I haven't
>>>>> tested:
>>>>>
>>>>> Set db = CurrentDb
>>>>> Db.Execute "UPDATE tblMyTable SET tblMyTable.fldOne = '" & 
>>>>> cboComboBox1
>>>>> &
>>>>> "', tblMyTable.fldTwo= '" & cboComboBox2 & "', tblMyTable.fldThree = 
>>>>> '"
>>>>> &
>>>>> cboComboBox3 & "';"
>>>>>
>>>>> Note that I have assumes that the values are string values and so need
>>>>> to
>>>>> have preceding and following apostrophes.  If the values are numeric
>>>>> then
>>>>> they won't need the '.
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm sure someone else looking at this code will make the appropriate
>>>>> corrections.
>>>>>
>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>
>>>>> Rocky
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>>>>> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Pedro
>>>>> Janssen
>>>>> Sent: Thursday, November 23, 2006 3:35 PM
>>>>> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
>>>>> Subject: Re: [AccessD] saving values
>>>>>
>>>>> Hello Rocky,
>>>>>
>>>>> could you give me an example of that, preferably in a example 
>>>>> database.
>>>>> I have tried several things until now but nothing is working perfect.
>>>>>
>>>>> Pedro Janssen
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>>>> From: "Beach Access Software" <bchacc at san.rr.com>
>>>>> To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'"
>>>>> <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
>>>>> Sent: Friday, November 24, 2006 12:07 AM
>>>>> Subject: Re: [AccessD] saving values
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> I'd use Dao, open the record in question, push the value in, and
>>>>>> requery
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> form.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Rocky
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>>>>>> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Pedro
>>>>>> Janssen
>>>>>> Sent: 23 November 2006 13:32
>>>>>> To: AccessD
>>>>>> Subject: [AccessD] saving values
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hello Group,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> i still have troubles saving values from unbound comboxes (cascade) 
>>>>>> in
>>>>>> table
>>>>>> fields.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> What is the best way to do this.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Pedro Janssen
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From JRojas at tnco-inc.com  Tue Nov 28 11:07:31 2006
From: JRojas at tnco-inc.com (Joe Rojas)
Date: Tue, 28 Nov 2006 12:07:31 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Problem linking to an ODBC table
Message-ID: <758E92433C4F3740B67BE4DD369AF5772EDF76@ex2k3.corp.tnco-inc.com>

Thanks John,

I contacted software support and the solution was to use a pass-through
query.

Thanks,
Joe Rojas
IT Manager
TNCO, Inc.
781-447-6661 x7506
jrojas at tnco-inc.com


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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of JWColby
Sent: Tuesday, November 28, 2006 9:14 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Problem linking to an ODBC table

If I had to guess, I would say that one field in the table you are
linking
to is able to contain more data than Access can handle.  Perhaps Access
is
mapping a field as text when it actually contains more data than a text
field can handle (255 characters).  Or perhaps there is a field that
Access
simply does not understand how to map, contains a data type that Access
simply cannot handle.  I would look at the table itself, inside of
OpenEdge
and see what kinds of data the table contains. 


John W. Colby
Colby Consulting
www.ColbyConsulting.com

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Joe Rojas
Sent: Tuesday, November 28, 2006 8:48 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: [AccessD] Problem linking to an ODBC table

Hello,

I am using Access 2003 to connect to a Progress OpenEdge 10 database via
ODBC.
Everything is setup correctly but I am having a problem connecting to
one
particular table.

Each time I try to connect to it, I get an error message that says "The
size
of a field is too long."

Any ideas for a possible work around?

Thanks,
Joe Rojas
IT Manager
TNCO, Inc.
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From cclenright at yahoo.com  Tue Nov 28 11:24:13 2006
From: cclenright at yahoo.com (Chris Enright)
Date: Tue, 28 Nov 2006 09:24:13 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [AccessD] Text Box Source - Chapter 2
Message-ID: <20061128172413.81140.qmail@web34301.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Thanks Andy for solving the previous problem and Rusty for trying.
   
  This I am certain is equaly easy but I am getting something wrong.
   
  There are 42 Text Boxes on the Form and 20 employees and they want a separate form for each employee.
   
  I do not want to go through every form changing, for example, IG to SW and whilst I have read threads in the past about software that will do this sort of thing, I do not have it.
   
  So I thought that if the form was populating the Text Boxes by code On Open I could do a Search and Replace in the module.
   
  However, I seem unable to get it right. I tried for example
   
  Me.Mon_DBAdminEventTime = Me.[qryIG_Mon]![DBAdminEventTime]
   
  and I get 
   
  DbName can't find the field "?" referred to in your expression
   
  except that ? is a continuous line.
   
  How do I put 
  qryIG_Mon.DBAdminEventTime
  into the Source Code?
   
   
  Chris 
   
  ps Leaving now so won't read replies until tomorrow

 
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From bchacc at san.rr.com  Tue Nov 28 12:15:13 2006
From: bchacc at san.rr.com (Beach Access Software)
Date: Tue, 28 Nov 2006 10:15:13 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] ADO Problem
Message-ID: <008501c71319$265e68a0$6401a8c0@HAL9005>

Dear List:

A colleague (who thinks I know ADO) writes in to ask why the following:

?? Conn.Execute "INSERT INTO tWeeklyUpdateSent ( DateSent ) " & _
???????????????? "SELECT " & dtToday & ""

Inserts a record into tWeeklyUpdateSent so the conection is OK.  But but the
date is 1/1/1900 instead of today?s date.

I had him check the contents of dtToday and it does indeed have 11/28/2006
in it.

Does anyone see what he's doing wrong here?


MTIA

Rocky




From garykjos at gmail.com  Tue Nov 28 12:33:40 2006
From: garykjos at gmail.com (Gary Kjos)
Date: Tue, 28 Nov 2006 12:33:40 -0600
Subject: [AccessD] ADO Problem
In-Reply-To: <008501c71319$265e68a0$6401a8c0@HAL9005>
References: <008501c71319$265e68a0$6401a8c0@HAL9005>
Message-ID: <aea6c4950611281033xaccd4b4m54244bfde7225db2@mail.gmail.com>

Don't know DAO at all but don't you usually have # signs around dates
in SQL statements to mean Date Format enclosed.

GK

On 11/28/06, Beach Access Software <bchacc at san.rr.com> wrote:
> Dear List:
>
> A colleague (who thinks I know ADO) writes in to ask why the following:
>
>  Conn.Execute "INSERT INTO tWeeklyUpdateSent ( DateSent ) " & _
>  "SELECT " & dtToday & ""
>
> Inserts a record into tWeeklyUpdateSent so the conection is OK.  But but the
> date is 1/1/1900 instead of today's date.
>
> I had him check the contents of dtToday and it does indeed have 11/28/2006
> in it.
>
> Does anyone see what he's doing wrong here?
>
>
> MTIA
>
> Rocky
>
>
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From Donald.A.McGillivray at sprint.com  Tue Nov 28 12:38:30 2006
From: Donald.A.McGillivray at sprint.com (McGillivray, Don [IT])
Date: Tue, 28 Nov 2006 12:38:30 -0600
Subject: [AccessD] ADO Problem
In-Reply-To: <008501c71319$265e68a0$6401a8c0@HAL9005>
Message-ID: <EC829B33DF5B5B48A956B7A2E894AA9A0A8AAF38@PLSWB06C.ad.sprint.com>

Hi, Rocky.  

Just a WAG (I don't know ADO), but how 'bout:

?? Conn.Execute "INSERT INTO tWeeklyUpdateSent ( DateSent ) " & _
???????????????? "SELECT #" & dtToday & "#;" 

Don

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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Beach Access Software
Sent: Tuesday, November 28, 2006 10:15 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] ADO Problem

Dear List:

A colleague (who thinks I know ADO) writes in to ask why the following:

?? Conn.Execute "INSERT INTO tWeeklyUpdateSent ( DateSent ) " & _
???????????????? "SELECT " & dtToday & ""

Inserts a record into tWeeklyUpdateSent so the conection is OK.  But but the
date is 1/1/1900 instead of today's date.

I had him check the contents of dtToday and it does indeed have 11/28/2006
in it.

Does anyone see what he's doing wrong here?


MTIA

Rocky


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From bchacc at san.rr.com  Tue Nov 28 12:48:03 2006
From: bchacc at san.rr.com (Beach Access Software)
Date: Tue, 28 Nov 2006 10:48:03 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] ADO Problem
In-Reply-To: <aea6c4950611281033xaccd4b4m54244bfde7225db2@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <00a701c7131d$bcbd2440$6401a8c0@HAL9005>

I'll have him give it a try.

Rocky


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gary Kjos
Sent: Tuesday, November 28, 2006 10:34 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] ADO Problem

Don't know DAO at all but don't you usually have # signs around dates
in SQL statements to mean Date Format enclosed.

GK

On 11/28/06, Beach Access Software <bchacc at san.rr.com> wrote:
> Dear List:
>
> A colleague (who thinks I know ADO) writes in to ask why the following:
>
>  Conn.Execute "INSERT INTO tWeeklyUpdateSent ( DateSent ) " & _
>  "SELECT " & dtToday & ""
>
> Inserts a record into tWeeklyUpdateSent so the conection is OK.  But but
the
> date is 1/1/1900 instead of today's date.
>
> I had him check the contents of dtToday and it does indeed have 11/28/2006
> in it.
>
> Does anyone see what he's doing wrong here?
>
>
> MTIA
>
> Rocky
>
>
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From bchacc at san.rr.com  Tue Nov 28 13:36:03 2006
From: bchacc at san.rr.com (Beach Access Software)
Date: Tue, 28 Nov 2006 11:36:03 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] ADO Problem
In-Reply-To: <EC829B33DF5B5B48A956B7A2E894AA9A0A8AAF38@PLSWB06C.ad.sprint.com>
Message-ID: <00b901c71324$71176ee0$6401a8c0@HAL9005>

Using:

"SELECT #" & dtToday & "#"

He gets an error message: 

Invalid column name '#11'

dtToaday does contain 11/28/2006

What else could it be?

MTIA

Rocky


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of McGillivray, Don
[IT]
Sent: Tuesday, November 28, 2006 10:39 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] ADO Problem

Hi, Rocky.  

Just a WAG (I don't know ADO), but how 'bout:

?? Conn.Execute "INSERT INTO tWeeklyUpdateSent ( DateSent ) " & _
???????????????? "SELECT #" & dtToday & "#;" 

Don

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Beach Access
Software
Sent: Tuesday, November 28, 2006 10:15 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] ADO Problem

Dear List:

A colleague (who thinks I know ADO) writes in to ask why the following:

?? Conn.Execute "INSERT INTO tWeeklyUpdateSent ( DateSent ) " & _
???????????????? "SELECT " & dtToday & ""

Inserts a record into tWeeklyUpdateSent so the conection is OK.  But but the
date is 1/1/1900 instead of today's date.

I had him check the contents of dtToday and it does indeed have 11/28/2006
in it.

Does anyone see what he's doing wrong here?


MTIA

Rocky


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From gwsmith at iowatelecom.net  Tue Nov 28 13:40:19 2006
From: gwsmith at iowatelecom.net (Greg Smith)
Date: Tue, 28 Nov 2006 13:40:19 -0600 (CST)
Subject: [AccessD] XML Import Sample File
In-Reply-To: <001201c71308$d252b410$6401a8c0@nant>
References: <7848.65.118.249.214.1164728802.squirrel@webmail.iowatelecom.net>
	<001201c71308$d252b410$6401a8c0@nant>
Message-ID: <27904.65.118.249.214.1164742819.squirrel@webmail.iowatelecom.net>

Hi Shamil!

Well, it was a DUH on me...I'd forgotten that I'd changed the text files
somewhat and it was looking for information that wasn't in there ... once
I fixed that, it worked!  Thanks!

Now I have another question (endless, aren't they?).  All of these samples
work fine with the XML text files that are "two" levels deep, such as, for
the Shippers.xml2.txt file (I truncated the phone number because they were
wrapping around):

<?xml version="1.0"?>
<datarows>
    <Shippers CompanyName="Speedy Express" Phone="(503) ...
    <Shippers CompanyName="United Package" Phone="(704) ...
    <Shippers CompanyName="Federal Shipping" Phone="(503) ...
</datarows>

The XML text file that I am trying to extract data from has many levels to
it, although only a few are pertinent, they are several layers up inside
the XML file (See below):

<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?>
<REQUEST_GROUP>
   <REQUESTING_PARTY/>
   <RECEIVING_PARTY/>
   <SUBMITTING_PARTY/>
      <REQUEST>
         <KEY _Name="SubmissionID" _Value="4281"/>
         <KEY _Name="GroupName" _Value="JFB_Exemption20060831"/>
         <KEY _Name="SubmissionNumber" _Value="0000000610...
           <PRIA_REQUEST _Type="Other"_TypeOtherDescription="ES....
	<PACKAGE>
                      .
                      .
                      .

When I take the existing 'working' file and add one layer to it, nothing
is imported.  I don't get any errors, but I don't get any data either.

Will these samples only work for one/two levels?  If I could use these
(any one of them) to get the data from where I want, that would be
perfect!  But in order to do that, I need to be able to search 'into' the
xml file past the first level.

For example, I have gotten it to work if I use the text file format as
shown below:

<REQUEST>
  <KEY _Name="..../>
  <KEY _Name=".../>
</REQUEST>

But if I add another grouping around the outside, it fails and extracts no
data:

<REQUEST_GROUP>
  <REQUEST>
    <KEY _Name="..../>
    <KEY _Name=".../>
  </REQUEST>
</REQUEST_GROUP>

Or is there a way to make it hit whatever level I want?  So far I've not
been able to do that (yet).

Thanks!
Greg

================
Hello Greg,

It works well here with MSXML v.6.0 - data are imported:

Public Function Parse(ByVal vstrURL As String, ByVal vstrTableName As
String, ByVal vavarFields As Variant)
Dim reader As SAXXMLReader60 '30
    mavarFields = vavarFields
    mstrTableName = vstrTableName
    mintFieldIndex = -1
    mintFieldsCount = 0
    Set reader = New SAXXMLReader60 '30
    Set reader.contentHandler = Me
    Set reader.errorHandler = Me
    reader.parseURL vstrURL
End Function

I have no clear idea why it doesn't work there on you PC.
Try to put breakpoints and debug/trace it...

--
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From mwp.reid at qub.ac.uk  Tue Nov 28 13:46:29 2006
From: mwp.reid at qub.ac.uk (Martin Reid)
Date: Tue, 28 Nov 2006 19:46:29 -0000
Subject: [AccessD] ADO Problem
References: <00b901c71324$71176ee0$6401a8c0@HAL9005>
Message-ID: <D0BF9C78D1C45C418541C852C8944FE20108626D@qub-xchange-01.ads.qub.ac.uk>

Rocky
 
have a look at this
http://forums.microsoft.com/MSDN/ShowPost.aspx?PostID=741812&SiteID=1
 
Martin
 
 
Martin WP Reid
Training and Assessment Unit
Riddle Hall
Belfast
 
tel: 02890 974477
 

________________________________

From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com on behalf of Beach Access Software
Sent: Tue 28/11/2006 19:36
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: Re: [AccessD] ADO Problem



Using:

"SELECT #" & dtToday & "#"

He gets an error message:

Invalid column name '#11'

dtToaday does contain 11/28/2006

What else could it be?

MTIA

Rocky


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of McGillivray, Don
[IT]
Sent: Tuesday, November 28, 2006 10:39 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] ADO Problem

Hi, Rocky. 

Just a WAG (I don't know ADO), but how 'bout:

   Conn.Execute "INSERT INTO tWeeklyUpdateSent ( DateSent ) " & _
                 "SELECT #" & dtToday & "#;"

Don

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Beach Access
Software
Sent: Tuesday, November 28, 2006 10:15 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] ADO Problem

Dear List:

A colleague (who thinks I know ADO) writes in to ask why the following:

   Conn.Execute "INSERT INTO tWeeklyUpdateSent ( DateSent ) " & _
                 "SELECT " & dtToday & ""

Inserts a record into tWeeklyUpdateSent so the conection is OK.  But but the
date is 1/1/1900 instead of today's date.

I had him check the contents of dtToday and it does indeed have 11/28/2006
in it.

Does anyone see what he's doing wrong here?


MTIA

Rocky


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From James at fcidms.com  Tue Nov 28 13:55:01 2006
From: James at fcidms.com (James Barash)
Date: Tue, 28 Nov 2006 14:55:01 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] ADO Problem
In-Reply-To: <00b901c71324$71176ee0$6401a8c0@HAL9005>
Message-ID: <001201c71327$175be860$800101df@fci.local>

Rocky:
You probably want something like:

Conn.Execute "INSERT INTO tWeeklyUpdateSent ( DateSent ) Values (#" &
dtToday & "#)" 

This will work with an ADODB connection to Access. If you are linking to SQL
Server, you should replace the # with ' (Single Quote).

Hope this helps.

James Barash

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Beach Access
Software
Sent: Tuesday, November 28, 2006 2:36 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: Re: [AccessD] ADO Problem

Using:

"SELECT #" & dtToday & "#"

He gets an error message: 

Invalid column name '#11'

dtToaday does contain 11/28/2006

What else could it be?

MTIA

Rocky


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of McGillivray, Don
[IT]
Sent: Tuesday, November 28, 2006 10:39 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] ADO Problem

Hi, Rocky.  

Just a WAG (I don't know ADO), but how 'bout:

?? Conn.Execute "INSERT INTO tWeeklyUpdateSent ( DateSent ) " & _
???????????????? "SELECT #" & dtToday & "#;" 

Don

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Beach Access
Software
Sent: Tuesday, November 28, 2006 10:15 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] ADO Problem

Dear List:

A colleague (who thinks I know ADO) writes in to ask why the following:

?? Conn.Execute "INSERT INTO tWeeklyUpdateSent ( DateSent ) " & _
???????????????? "SELECT " & dtToday & ""

Inserts a record into tWeeklyUpdateSent so the conection is OK.  But but the
date is 1/1/1900 instead of today's date.

I had him check the contents of dtToday and it does indeed have 11/28/2006
in it.

Does anyone see what he's doing wrong here?


MTIA

Rocky


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From Donald.A.McGillivray at sprint.com  Tue Nov 28 14:01:55 2006
From: Donald.A.McGillivray at sprint.com (McGillivray, Don [IT])
Date: Tue, 28 Nov 2006 14:01:55 -0600
Subject: [AccessD] ADO Problem
In-Reply-To: <00b901c71324$71176ee0$6401a8c0@HAL9005>
Message-ID: <EC829B33DF5B5B48A956B7A2E894AA9A0A8AB238@PLSWB06C.ad.sprint.com>

Let's assume that the original error was the result of 11/28/2006 being interpreted as "11 divided by 28 divided by 2006".  That's near enough to zero to cause the date result of 1/1/1900.  The new error suggests that since "#11" is not a number it is being seen as as a column name which is to be divided by 28 and then by 2006.  #11 does not exist as a column name, hence the error.  Is dtToday dimmed as a date datatype?  If not, that might be the problem.

HTH

Don

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Beach Access Software
Sent: Tuesday, November 28, 2006 11:36 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: Re: [AccessD] ADO Problem

Using:

"SELECT #" & dtToday & "#"

He gets an error message: 

Invalid column name '#11'

dtToaday does contain 11/28/2006

What else could it be?

MTIA

Rocky


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of McGillivray, Don
[IT]
Sent: Tuesday, November 28, 2006 10:39 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] ADO Problem

Hi, Rocky.  

Just a WAG (I don't know ADO), but how 'bout:

?? Conn.Execute "INSERT INTO tWeeklyUpdateSent ( DateSent ) " & _
???????????????? "SELECT #" & dtToday & "#;" 

Don

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Beach Access
Software
Sent: Tuesday, November 28, 2006 10:15 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] ADO Problem

Dear List:

A colleague (who thinks I know ADO) writes in to ask why the following:

?? Conn.Execute "INSERT INTO tWeeklyUpdateSent ( DateSent ) " & _
???????????????? "SELECT " & dtToday & ""

Inserts a record into tWeeklyUpdateSent so the conection is OK.  But but the
date is 1/1/1900 instead of today's date.

I had him check the contents of dtToday and it does indeed have 11/28/2006
in it.

Does anyone see what he's doing wrong here?


MTIA

Rocky


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From gwsmith at iowatelecom.net  Tue Nov 28 14:19:59 2006
From: gwsmith at iowatelecom.net (Greg Smith)
Date: Tue, 28 Nov 2006 14:19:59 -0600 (CST)
Subject: [AccessD] XML Import Sample File
In-Reply-To: <001201c71308$d252b410$6401a8c0@nant>
References: <7848.65.118.249.214.1164728802.squirrel@webmail.iowatelecom.net>
	<001201c71308$d252b410$6401a8c0@nant>
Message-ID: <31585.65.118.249.214.1164745199.squirrel@webmail.iowatelecom.net>

Shamil:

Hold the bus...on my last email (which hasn't appeared at this time). 
Maybe I should TEST more thoroughly before opening my mouth (fingers?). 
I've done some more testing against the original text file you sent with
the samples and it apparently WILL pull the data from whatever level I
make it go to in the XML text file.  I must've had something wrong in my
original test code or file (can't imagine THAT ever happening.... ).

I'll run a boatload of other tests on it to see if it will work with the
file I expect them to send.


Greg


======================
Hello Greg,

It works well here with MSXML v.6.0 - data are imported:

Public Function Parse(ByVal vstrURL As String, ByVal vstrTableName As
String, ByVal vavarFields As Variant)
Dim reader As SAXXMLReader60 '30
    mavarFields = vavarFields
    mstrTableName = vstrTableName
    mintFieldIndex = -1
    mintFieldsCount = 0
    Set reader = New SAXXMLReader60 '30
    Set reader.contentHandler = Me
    Set reader.errorHandler = Me
    reader.parseURL vstrURL
End Function

I have no clear idea why it doesn't work there on you PC.
Try to put breakpoints and debug/trace it...

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From accessd at shaw.ca  Tue Nov 28 14:24:24 2006
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Tue, 28 Nov 2006 12:24:24 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] OT Great reference site
In-Reply-To: <EC829B33DF5B5B48A956B7A2E894AA9A0A8AB238@PLSWB06C.ad.sprint.com>
Message-ID: <0J9G00AMEJA01ZR0@l-daemon>

Hi All:

Just discovered this site and it has already been able to resolve a system
issues. It is a great site of utilities and diagnostic tools. 

http://www.microsoft.com/technet/sysinternals/default.mspx

HTH
Jim 



From martyconnelly at shaw.ca  Tue Nov 28 14:31:49 2006
From: martyconnelly at shaw.ca (MartyConnelly)
Date: Tue, 28 Nov 2006 12:31:49 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] XML Import Sample File
In-Reply-To: <27904.65.118.249.214.1164742819.squirrel@webmail.iowatelecom.net>
References: <7848.65.118.249.214.1164728802.squirrel@webmail.iowatelecom.net>
	<001201c71308$d252b410$6401a8c0@nant>
	<27904.65.118.249.214.1164742819.squirrel@webmail.iowatelecom.net>
Message-ID: <456C9CB5.30107@shaw.ca>

Try using XPATH  where syntax would  be "//SUBMITTING_PARTY/REQUEST/KEY/@*"
to move attributes into a collection that can be read.
or failing that just parse xmldoc.xml  for the attributes in partial xml 
string.

Sub xpathtest()
Dim strxml As String
Dim xmldoc As MSXML2.DOMDocument40
Dim nodes As MSXML2.IXMLDOMNodeList
Dim node  As MSXML2.IXMLDOMNode
Dim xmlError    As IXMLDOMParseError
Dim lngErrCode As Long

Set xmldoc = New MSXML2.DOMDocument40
    xmldoc.setProperty "SelectionLanguage", "XPath"
    xmldoc.async = False
    xmldoc.validateOnParse = False
   'xmldoc.resolveExternals = False
xmldoc.Load "C:\Access files\xmltests\Pria Path\pria.xml"
'
               lngErrCode = xmldoc.validate
           '  Debug.Print lngErrCode
            If xmldoc.parseError.errorCode <> 0 Then
                   Debug.Print " Reason: " & xmldoc.parseError.reason
                  Set xmlError = xmldoc.parseError
                   reportParseError xmlError
            End If
'xpath entity name case sensitive
'grab attributes with fee via XPath
Set nodes = xmldoc.selectNodes("//SUBMITTING_PARTY/REQUEST/KEY/@*")

'look through nodes collection
For Each node In nodes
    Debug.Print node.Text & " - " & node.nodeName
Next node

  Debug.Print xmldoc.xml
Set nodes = Nothing
Set xmldoc = Nothing
End Sub

Function reportParseError(err As IXMLDOMParseError)
  Dim s As String
  Dim r As String
  Dim i As Long
   s = ""
  For i = 1 To err.linepos - 1
    s = s & " "
  Next
  r = "XML Error loading " & err.url & " * " & err.reason
  Debug.Print r
    'show character postion of error; tired of counting
  If (err.Line > 0) Then
    r = "at line " & err.Line & ", character " & err.linepos & vbCrLf & _
         err.srcText & vbCrLf & s & "^"
  End If
  Debug.Print r
  End Function

Greg Smith wrote:

>Hi Shamil!
>
>Well, it was a DUH on me...I'd forgotten that I'd changed the text files
>somewhat and it was looking for information that wasn't in there ... once
>I fixed that, it worked!  Thanks!
>
>Now I have another question (endless, aren't they?).  All of these samples
>work fine with the XML text files that are "two" levels deep, such as, for
>the Shippers.xml2.txt file (I truncated the phone number because they were
>wrapping around):
>
><?xml version="1.0"?>
><datarows>
>    <Shippers CompanyName="Speedy Express" Phone="(503) ...
>    <Shippers CompanyName="United Package" Phone="(704) ...
>    <Shippers CompanyName="Federal Shipping" Phone="(503) ...
></datarows>
>
>The XML text file that I am trying to extract data from has many levels to
>it, although only a few are pertinent, they are several layers up inside
>the XML file (See below):
>
><?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?>
><REQUEST_GROUP>
>   <REQUESTING_PARTY/>
>   <RECEIVING_PARTY/>
>   <SUBMITTING_PARTY/>
>      <REQUEST>
>         <KEY _Name="SubmissionID" _Value="4281"/>
>         <KEY _Name="GroupName" _Value="JFB_Exemption20060831"/>
>         <KEY _Name="SubmissionNumber" _Value="0000000610...
>           <PRIA_REQUEST _Type="Other"_TypeOtherDescription="ES....
>	<PACKAGE>
>                      .
>                      .
>                      .
>
>When I take the existing 'working' file and add one layer to it, nothing
>is imported.  I don't get any errors, but I don't get any data either.
>
>Will these samples only work for one/two levels?  If I could use these
>(any one of them) to get the data from where I want, that would be
>perfect!  But in order to do that, I need to be able to search 'into' the
>xml file past the first level.
>
>For example, I have gotten it to work if I use the text file format as
>shown below:
>
><REQUEST>
>  <KEY _Name="..../>
>  <KEY _Name=".../>
></REQUEST>
>
>But if I add another grouping around the outside, it fails and extracts no
>data:
>
><REQUEST_GROUP>
>  <REQUEST>
>    <KEY _Name="..../>
>    <KEY _Name=".../>
>  </REQUEST>
></REQUEST_GROUP>
>
>Or is there a way to make it hit whatever level I want?  So far I've not
>been able to do that (yet).
>
>Thanks!
>Greg
>
>================
>Hello Greg,
>
>It works well here with MSXML v.6.0 - data are imported:
>
>Public Function Parse(ByVal vstrURL As String, ByVal vstrTableName As
>String, ByVal vavarFields As Variant)
>Dim reader As SAXXMLReader60 '30
>    mavarFields = vavarFields
>    mstrTableName = vstrTableName
>    mintFieldIndex = -1
>    mintFieldsCount = 0
>    Set reader = New SAXXMLReader60 '30
>    Set reader.contentHandler = Me
>    Set reader.errorHandler = Me
>    reader.parseURL vstrURL
>End Function
>
>I have no clear idea why it doesn't work there on you PC.
>Try to put breakpoints and debug/trace it...
>
>--
>Shamil
>
>
>
>  
>

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From martyconnelly at shaw.ca  Tue Nov 28 14:40:35 2006
From: martyconnelly at shaw.ca (MartyConnelly)
Date: Tue, 28 Nov 2006 12:40:35 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] OT Great reference site
In-Reply-To: <0J9G00AMEJA01ZR0@l-daemon>
References: <0J9G00AMEJA01ZR0@l-daemon>
Message-ID: <456C9EC3.2080800@shaw.ca>

Microsoft bought the company sysinternals.com  a couple of months back.

Jim Lawrence wrote:

>Hi All:
>
>Just discovered this site and it has already been able to resolve a system
>issues. It is a great site of utilities and diagnostic tools. 
>
>http://www.microsoft.com/technet/sysinternals/default.mspx
>
>HTH
>Jim 
>
>  
>

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From Kwilliamson at RTKL.com  Tue Nov 28 14:43:44 2006
From: Kwilliamson at RTKL.com (Keith Williamson)
Date: Tue, 28 Nov 2006 15:43:44 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Linked Table to SQL Database
Message-ID: <B61870319AC0CC42A143BA69E5798D08028A2E@fenwick.rtkl.rtkl.net>

Hey guys,

 

I've got a linked table to a Sql Server database.  The table has
approximately 2,000,000 (yes..that is TWO MILLION...PLUS) records in it.
The data goes back at least 10 years.  I only need the data for, at
most, this year onward.  Is there a way to limit the link, to only pull
out data older than 01/01/06?  I am sure that Access will really chug,
trying to go through the 2,000,000 records (if a query will even be able
to handle it.)

 

Thanks,

 

Keith E. Williamson | Assist. Controller| kwilliamson at rtkl.com

RTKL Associates Inc. | 901 South Bond Street | Baltimore, Maryland
21231-3305

410-537-6098 direct | 410-276-2136 fax | www.rtkl.com
<http://www.rtkl.com/> 

 



From bchacc at san.rr.com  Tue Nov 28 14:53:33 2006
From: bchacc at san.rr.com (Beach Access Software)
Date: Tue, 28 Nov 2006 12:53:33 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] ADO Problem
In-Reply-To: <EC829B33DF5B5B48A956B7A2E894AA9A0A8AB238@PLSWB06C.ad.sprint.com>
Message-ID: <011001c7132f$449d5220$6401a8c0@HAL9005>

I'll ask.  Thanks.

Rocky


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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of McGillivray, Don
[IT]
Sent: Tuesday, November 28, 2006 12:02 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] ADO Problem

Let's assume that the original error was the result of 11/28/2006 being
interpreted as "11 divided by 28 divided by 2006".  That's near enough to
zero to cause the date result of 1/1/1900.  The new error suggests that
since "#11" is not a number it is being seen as as a column name which is to
be divided by 28 and then by 2006.  #11 does not exist as a column name,
hence the error.  Is dtToday dimmed as a date datatype?  If not, that might
be the problem.

HTH

Don

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Software
Sent: Tuesday, November 28, 2006 11:36 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: Re: [AccessD] ADO Problem

Using:

"SELECT #" & dtToday & "#"

He gets an error message: 

Invalid column name '#11'

dtToaday does contain 11/28/2006

What else could it be?

MTIA

Rocky


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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of McGillivray, Don
[IT]
Sent: Tuesday, November 28, 2006 10:39 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] ADO Problem

Hi, Rocky.  

Just a WAG (I don't know ADO), but how 'bout:

?? Conn.Execute "INSERT INTO tWeeklyUpdateSent ( DateSent ) " & _
???????????????? "SELECT #" & dtToday & "#;" 

Don

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Sent: Tuesday, November 28, 2006 10:15 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] ADO Problem

Dear List:

A colleague (who thinks I know ADO) writes in to ask why the following:

?? Conn.Execute "INSERT INTO tWeeklyUpdateSent ( DateSent ) " & _
???????????????? "SELECT " & dtToday & ""

Inserts a record into tWeeklyUpdateSent so the conection is OK.  But but the
date is 1/1/1900 instead of today's date.

I had him check the contents of dtToday and it does indeed have 11/28/2006
in it.

Does anyone see what he's doing wrong here?


MTIA

Rocky


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From bchacc at san.rr.com  Tue Nov 28 14:58:34 2006
From: bchacc at san.rr.com (Beach Access Software)
Date: Tue, 28 Nov 2006 12:58:34 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] ADO Problem
In-Reply-To: <D0BF9C78D1C45C418541C852C8944FE20108626D@qub-xchange-01.ads.qub.ac.uk>
Message-ID: <011b01c7132f$f8385320$6401a8c0@HAL9005>

Seems to confirm that single quotes are needed to delimit the dates. 

Thanks Martin.

Rocky


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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Martin Reid
Sent: Tuesday, November 28, 2006 11:46 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] ADO Problem

Rocky
 
have a look at this
http://forums.microsoft.com/MSDN/ShowPost.aspx?PostID=741812&SiteID=1
 
Martin
 
 
Martin WP Reid
Training and Assessment Unit
Riddle Hall
Belfast
 
tel: 02890 974477
 

________________________________

From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com on behalf of Beach Access
Software
Sent: Tue 28/11/2006 19:36
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: Re: [AccessD] ADO Problem



Using:

"SELECT #" & dtToday & "#"

He gets an error message:

Invalid column name '#11'

dtToaday does contain 11/28/2006

What else could it be?

MTIA

Rocky


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of McGillivray, Don
[IT]
Sent: Tuesday, November 28, 2006 10:39 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] ADO Problem

Hi, Rocky. 

Just a WAG (I don't know ADO), but how 'bout:

   Conn.Execute "INSERT INTO tWeeklyUpdateSent ( DateSent ) " & _
                 "SELECT #" & dtToday & "#;"

Don

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Beach Access
Software
Sent: Tuesday, November 28, 2006 10:15 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] ADO Problem

Dear List:

A colleague (who thinks I know ADO) writes in to ask why the following:

   Conn.Execute "INSERT INTO tWeeklyUpdateSent ( DateSent ) " & _
                 "SELECT " & dtToday & ""

Inserts a record into tWeeklyUpdateSent so the conection is OK.  But but the
date is 1/1/1900 instead of today's date.

I had him check the contents of dtToday and it does indeed have 11/28/2006
in it.

Does anyone see what he's doing wrong here?


MTIA

Rocky


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From rusty.hammond at cpiqpc.com  Tue Nov 28 15:22:00 2006
From: rusty.hammond at cpiqpc.com (rusty.hammond at cpiqpc.com)
Date: Tue, 28 Nov 2006 15:22:00 -0600
Subject: [AccessD] Linked Table to SQL Database
Message-ID: <8301C8A868251E4C8ECD3D4FFEA40F8A2584B720@cpixchng-1.cpiqpc.net>

Keith,

Create a view on the SQL server that limits your records, then create the
link in Access to that view.

If you don't have the rights to the sql server to create the view, you can
create a pass-through query in Access and limit your records via a SQL
statement in the pass-through query.  A limitation of a pass-through query
is the data returned is read-only, which may may not work for your needs.

HTH,

Rusty

-----Original Message-----
From: Keith Williamson [mailto:Kwilliamson at rtkl.com]
Sent: Tuesday, November 28, 2006 2:44 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: [AccessD] Linked Table to SQL Database


Hey guys,

 

I've got a linked table to a Sql Server database.  The table has
approximately 2,000,000 (yes..that is TWO MILLION...PLUS) records in it.
The data goes back at least 10 years.  I only need the data for, at
most, this year onward.  Is there a way to limit the link, to only pull
out data older than 01/01/06?  I am sure that Access will really chug,
trying to go through the 2,000,000 records (if a query will even be able
to handle it.)

 

Thanks,

 

Keith E. Williamson | Assist. Controller| kwilliamson at rtkl.com

RTKL Associates Inc. | 901 South Bond Street | Baltimore, Maryland
21231-3305

410-537-6098 direct | 410-276-2136 fax | www.rtkl.com
<http://www.rtkl.com/> 

 

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From Kwilliamson at RTKL.com  Tue Nov 28 15:34:10 2006
From: Kwilliamson at RTKL.com (Keith Williamson)
Date: Tue, 28 Nov 2006 16:34:10 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Linked Table to SQL Database
In-Reply-To: <8301C8A868251E4C8ECD3D4FFEA40F8A2584B720@cpixchng-1.cpiqpc.net>
Message-ID: <B61870319AC0CC42A143BA69E5798D08028A66@fenwick.rtkl.rtkl.net>

Okay.  Thanks a lot!!

Regards,

Keith E. Williamson | Assist. Controller| kwilliamson at rtkl.com

RTKL Associates Inc. | 901 South Bond Street | Baltimore, Maryland
21231-3305

410-537-6098 direct | 410-276-2136 fax | www.rtkl.com

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of
rusty.hammond at cpiqpc.com
Sent: Tuesday, November 28, 2006 4:22 PM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Linked Table to SQL Database

Keith,

Create a view on the SQL server that limits your records, then create
the
link in Access to that view.

If you don't have the rights to the sql server to create the view, you
can
create a pass-through query in Access and limit your records via a SQL
statement in the pass-through query.  A limitation of a pass-through
query
is the data returned is read-only, which may may not work for your
needs.

HTH,

Rusty

-----Original Message-----
From: Keith Williamson [mailto:Kwilliamson at rtkl.com]
Sent: Tuesday, November 28, 2006 2:44 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: [AccessD] Linked Table to SQL Database


Hey guys,

 

I've got a linked table to a Sql Server database.  The table has
approximately 2,000,000 (yes..that is TWO MILLION...PLUS) records in it.
The data goes back at least 10 years.  I only need the data for, at
most, this year onward.  Is there a way to limit the link, to only pull
out data older than 01/01/06?  I am sure that Access will really chug,
trying to go through the 2,000,000 records (if a query will even be able
to handle it.)

 

Thanks,

 

Keith E. Williamson | Assist. Controller| kwilliamson at rtkl.com

RTKL Associates Inc. | 901 South Bond Street | Baltimore, Maryland
21231-3305

410-537-6098 direct | 410-276-2136 fax | www.rtkl.com
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From cfoust at infostatsystems.com  Tue Nov 28 15:37:21 2006
From: cfoust at infostatsystems.com (Charlotte Foust)
Date: Tue, 28 Nov 2006 13:37:21 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] ADO Problem
In-Reply-To: <011b01c7132f$f8385320$6401a8c0@HAL9005>
Message-ID: <F55048AF7E974F429BB24597D7355EEA17855E@INFOSERVER04.infostat.local>

ADO generally uses SQL Server syntax (i.e., no ; at the end and single
quotes around dates) rather than the Access SQL that DAO handles.

Charlotte Foust 

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Software
Sent: Tuesday, November 28, 2006 12:59 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: Re: [AccessD] ADO Problem

Seems to confirm that single quotes are needed to delimit the dates. 

Thanks Martin.

Rocky


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[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Martin Reid
Sent: Tuesday, November 28, 2006 11:46 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] ADO Problem

Rocky
 
have a look at this
http://forums.microsoft.com/MSDN/ShowPost.aspx?PostID=741812&SiteID=1
 
Martin
 
 
Martin WP Reid
Training and Assessment Unit
Riddle Hall
Belfast
 
tel: 02890 974477
 

________________________________

From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com on behalf of Beach Access
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Sent: Tue 28/11/2006 19:36
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: Re: [AccessD] ADO Problem



Using:

"SELECT #" & dtToday & "#"

He gets an error message:

Invalid column name '#11'

dtToaday does contain 11/28/2006

What else could it be?

MTIA

Rocky


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of McGillivray,
Don [IT]
Sent: Tuesday, November 28, 2006 10:39 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] ADO Problem

Hi, Rocky. 

Just a WAG (I don't know ADO), but how 'bout:

   Conn.Execute "INSERT INTO tWeeklyUpdateSent ( DateSent ) " & _
                 "SELECT #" & dtToday & "#;"

Don

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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Beach Access
Software
Sent: Tuesday, November 28, 2006 10:15 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] ADO Problem

Dear List:

A colleague (who thinks I know ADO) writes in to ask why the following:

   Conn.Execute "INSERT INTO tWeeklyUpdateSent ( DateSent ) " & _
                 "SELECT " & dtToday & ""

Inserts a record into tWeeklyUpdateSent so the conection is OK.  But but
the date is 1/1/1900 instead of today's date.

I had him check the contents of dtToday and it does indeed have
11/28/2006 in it.

Does anyone see what he's doing wrong here?


MTIA

Rocky


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From stuart at lexacorp.com.pg  Tue Nov 28 15:43:20 2006
From: stuart at lexacorp.com.pg (Stuart McLachlan)
Date: Wed, 29 Nov 2006 07:43:20 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] ADO Problem
In-Reply-To: <008501c71319$265e68a0$6401a8c0@HAL9005>
References: <008501c71319$265e68a0$6401a8c0@HAL9005>
Message-ID: <456CAD78.3567.1CF8BFAE@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>

On 28 Nov 2006 at 10:15, Beach Access Software wrote:

> Dear List:
> 
> A colleague (who thinks I know ADO) writes in to ask why the following:
> 
> ?? Conn.Execute "INSERT INTO tWeeklyUpdateSent ( DateSent ) " & _
> ???????????????? "SELECT " & dtToday & ""
> 
> Inserts a record into tWeeklyUpdateSent so the conection is OK.  But but the
> date is 1/1/1900 instead of today?s date.

You are building  a string which looks like:
INSERT INTO tWeeklyUpdateSent ( DateSent ) SELECT 11/28/2006

What you want is:
INSERT INTO tWeeklyUpdateSent ( DateSent ) SELECT '11/28/2006'

so you need to use
 ... "SELECT '" & dtToday & "'"
(note the two single quotes)

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From martyconnelly at shaw.ca  Tue Nov 28 15:49:58 2006
From: martyconnelly at shaw.ca (MartyConnelly)
Date: Tue, 28 Nov 2006 13:49:58 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] ADO Problem
In-Reply-To: <011001c7132f$449d5220$6401a8c0@HAL9005>
References: <011001c7132f$449d5220$6401a8c0@HAL9005>
Message-ID: <456CAF06.7070001@shaw.ca>

Try this to see what is happening.

Debug.Print "INSERT INTO tWeeklyUpdateSent ( DateSent ) " &  "SELECT #" 
& dtToday & "#;"

Beach Access Software wrote:

>I'll ask.  Thanks.
>
>Rocky
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of McGillivray, Don
>[IT]
>Sent: Tuesday, November 28, 2006 12:02 PM
>To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
>Subject: Re: [AccessD] ADO Problem
>
>Let's assume that the original error was the result of 11/28/2006 being
>interpreted as "11 divided by 28 divided by 2006".  That's near enough to
>zero to cause the date result of 1/1/1900.  The new error suggests that
>since "#11" is not a number it is being seen as as a column name which is to
>be divided by 28 and then by 2006.  #11 does not exist as a column name,
>hence the error.  Is dtToday dimmed as a date datatype?  If not, that might
>be the problem.
>
>HTH
>
>Don
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Beach Access
>Software
>Sent: Tuesday, November 28, 2006 11:36 AM
>To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
>Subject: Re: [AccessD] ADO Problem
>
>Using:
>
>"SELECT #" & dtToday & "#"
>
>He gets an error message: 
>
>Invalid column name '#11'
>
>dtToaday does contain 11/28/2006
>
>What else could it be?
>
>MTIA
>
>Rocky
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of McGillivray, Don
>[IT]
>Sent: Tuesday, November 28, 2006 10:39 AM
>To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
>Subject: Re: [AccessD] ADO Problem
>
>Hi, Rocky.  
>
>Just a WAG (I don't know ADO), but how 'bout:
>
>   Conn.Execute "INSERT INTO tWeeklyUpdateSent ( DateSent ) " & _
>                 "SELECT #" & dtToday & "#;" 
>
>Don
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Beach Access
>Software
>Sent: Tuesday, November 28, 2006 10:15 AM
>To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
>Subject: [AccessD] ADO Problem
>
>Dear List:
>
>A colleague (who thinks I know ADO) writes in to ask why the following:
>
>   Conn.Execute "INSERT INTO tWeeklyUpdateSent ( DateSent ) " & _
>                 "SELECT " & dtToday & ""
>
>Inserts a record into tWeeklyUpdateSent so the conection is OK.  But but the
>date is 1/1/1900 instead of today's date.
>
>I had him check the contents of dtToday and it does indeed have 11/28/2006
>in it.
>
>Does anyone see what he's doing wrong here?
>
>
>MTIA
>
>Rocky
>
>
>  
>

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Canada



From artful at rogers.com  Tue Nov 28 16:00:15 2006
From: artful at rogers.com (artful at rogers.com)
Date: Tue, 28 Nov 2006 14:00:15 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [AccessD] ADO Problem
Message-ID: <20061128220015.76125.qmail@web88207.mail.re2.yahoo.com>

It would appear that dtToday has been declared but not initialized with value other than its default.


----- Original Message ----
From: Beach Access Software <bchacc at san.rr.com>
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Tuesday, November 28, 2006 1:15:13 PM
Subject: [AccessD] ADO Problem


Dear List:

A colleague (who thinks I know ADO) writes in to ask why the following:

   Conn.Execute "INSERT INTO tWeeklyUpdateSent ( DateSent ) " & _
                 "SELECT " & dtToday & ""

Inserts a record into tWeeklyUpdateSent so the conection is OK.  But but the
date is 1/1/1900 instead of today?s date.

I had him check the contents of dtToday and it does indeed have 11/28/2006
in it.

Does anyone see what he's doing wrong here?


MTIA

Rocky


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From kp at sdsonline.net  Tue Nov 28 16:03:38 2006
From: kp at sdsonline.net (Kath Pelletti)
Date: Wed, 29 Nov 2006 09:03:38 +1100
Subject: [AccessD] Rich text control as html
References: <001901c71294$bf6c8b10$6501a8c0@office>,
	<002201c712b5$7ab98e70$3e3de844@50NM721>
	<456C6885.23119.164CF691@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>
Message-ID: <001301c71339$0f87a540$6501a8c0@office>

Thanks Stuart / William

Kath
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Stuart McLachlan 
  To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving 
  Sent: Tuesday, November 28, 2006 5:49 PM
  Subject: Re: [AccessD] Rich text control as html


  On 28 Nov 2006 at 1:21, William Hindman wrote:

  > Kath
  > 
  > www.lebans.com ...look for his RTF ocx ...its free and works well in all 
  > versions A97-A2k3 ...plus he's on the msaccess newsgroups regularly and will 
  > answer any problems you might have in your implementation if you post it 
  > there ...I use it in several apps to allow user edit and format of text 
  > portions of reports that go to their customers ...since the rtf is stored in 
  > an mdb table you should be able to export it as html using Access' own 
  > export capabilities.


  Alternatively, once you have the text as RTF,  use
  RTF2HTML from http://www2.bitstream.net/~bradyh/downloads/rtf2htmlrm.html
  to convert the RFT string to an HTML string and use standard File IO to write the string to a file.







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From artful at rogers.com  Tue Nov 28 16:20:35 2006
From: artful at rogers.com (artful at rogers.com)
Date: Tue, 28 Nov 2006 14:20:35 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [AccessD] Linked Table to SQL Database
Message-ID: <20061128222035.313.qmail@web88211.mail.re2.yahoo.com>

You can also employ a technique called horizontal partitioning, which will break the large table into two or more chunks that exist as several physical files. The advantage to this approach is that if and when you ever need to, you can address the whole table easily. Look in BOL for Horizontal Partitioning.

Arthur


----- Original Message ----
From: Keith Williamson <Kwilliamson at rtkl.com>
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Tuesday, November 28, 2006 4:34:10 PM
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Linked Table to SQL Database


Okay.  Thanks a lot!!

Regards,

Keith E. Williamson | Assist. Controller| kwilliamson at rtkl.com

RTKL Associates Inc. | 901 South Bond Street | Baltimore, Maryland
21231-3305

410-537-6098 direct | 410-276-2136 fax | www.rtkl.com

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of
rusty.hammond at cpiqpc.com
Sent: Tuesday, November 28, 2006 4:22 PM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Linked Table to SQL Database

Keith,

Create a view on the SQL server that limits your records, then create
the
link in Access to that view.

If you don't have the rights to the sql server to create the view, you
can
create a pass-through query in Access and limit your records via a SQL
statement in the pass-through query.  A limitation of a pass-through
query
is the data returned is read-only, which may may not work for your
needs.

HTH,

Rusty

-----Original Message-----
From: Keith Williamson [mailto:Kwilliamson at rtkl.com]
Sent: Tuesday, November 28, 2006 2:44 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: [AccessD] Linked Table to SQL Database


Hey guys,



I've got a linked table to a Sql Server database.  The table has
approximately 2,000,000 (yes..that is TWO MILLION...PLUS) records in it.
The data goes back at least 10 years.  I only need the data for, at
most, this year onward.  Is there a way to limit the link, to only pull
out data older than 01/01/06?  I am sure that Access will really chug,
trying to go through the 2,000,000 records (if a query will even be able
to handle it.)



Thanks,



Keith E. Williamson | Assist. Controller| kwilliamson at rtkl.com

RTKL Associates Inc. | 901 South Bond Street | Baltimore, Maryland
21231-3305

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From pedro at plex.nl  Tue Nov 28 16:43:47 2006
From: pedro at plex.nl (Pedro Janssen)
Date: Tue, 28 Nov 2006 23:43:47 +0100
Subject: [AccessD] saving values
References: <007101c7130d$cebf61e0$6401a8c0@HAL9005>
Message-ID: <006401c7133e$aaa468b0$4001a8c0@qmotionfaa3ad9>

Hello Rocky,

no problem,
i am glad you wil have a look at the problem.

Pedro Janssen



----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Beach Access Software" <bchacc at san.rr.com>
To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'" 
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Tuesday, November 28, 2006 5:54 PM
Subject: Re: [AccessD] saving values


> Pedro:
>
> Haven't forgotten about you but I'm a little backed up this morning. 
> Stand
> by...
>
> Rocky
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Pedro Janssen
> Sent: Monday, November 27, 2006 3:05 PM
> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] saving values
>
> Hello Rocky,
>
> In this testdatabase is just want to make the cascadecombox selection 
> trying
>
> to work, for a major Fossil Database.
> The Main Table in the test is tblFossieldata (fossildata). The form
> frmFossielData is bound to that table.
> In this table you see the fields Era, Periode, Epoch, Etage and Tijd. 
> These
> are Geological Timetable fields. These fields are just textfields
>
> The table tblTijdschaal (timescale) I filled with the vlues that i want to
> use in the tblFossielData, in the fields that i mentioned before.
> Normally i would do this with a combobox for each, but the list of 
> timescale
>
> is very large, so i would simplify that by using a cascadecombo, that is
> present in frmTijdschaal.
>
> When opening a record in frmFossielData, and field Era gets the focus (in
> the real database there wil be a button click event), the unbound subform
> gets the focus.
> By using the cascade, Each field is filtered by the value of the combobox
> before.
> When selected the values in the five cascade comboboxes, i want to close 
> the
>
> frmTijdschaal en the values of Era.frmTijdschaal must be placed in the 
> field
>
> Era of frmFossielData, etc for the other four fields.
>
> Pedro Janssen
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Beach Access Software" <bchacc at san.rr.com>
> To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'"
> <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
> Sent: Monday, November 27, 2006 11:31 PM
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] saving values
>
>
>> Pedro:
>>
>> You are using my variable name lngKeyValue for the criterion in the WHERE
>> clause to limit the recordset to the one record you are looking for.  You
>> should use the value of the field from the combo box, instead.
>>
>> And I'm not clear on what you're trying to store or what the relationship
>> is
>> between the two tables.  So I can't be more precise.
>>
>> Tell me again the user process and what you're trying to accomplish.
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Rocky
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Pedro Janssen
>> Sent: Monday, November 27, 2006 11:51 AM
>> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
>> Subject: Re: [AccessD] saving values
>>
>> Hello Rocky,
>>
>> the message that is get back is "Holy Moly!  There's No Records In
>> Here!!! -
>>
>> 0
>>
>> That is strange, because in record two the FossielID (Primary Key of the
>> table) value is 2 (auto Number field).
>>
>> Ik could sent you the small test.mdb,
>> maybe you have seen the problem then in a minute?
>>
>> Pedro Janssen
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Beach Access Software" <bchacc at san.rr.com>
>> To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'"
>> <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
>> Sent: Monday, November 27, 2006 4:39 PM
>> Subject: Re: [AccessD] saving values
>>
>>
>>> Pedro:
>>>
>>> Just a guess but perhaps using the WHERE clause returns no records
>>> because
>>> the value for the PK you're using is invalid.
>>>
>>> After the set rs = statement put
>>>
>>> If rs.bof=true and rs.eof=true then
>>> Msgbox "Holy Moly!  There's No Records In Here!!! - " &
>>> lngKeyValue
>>> Exit sub
>>> End if
>>>
>>> To see if that's the case and what the value is of the key you're
>>> apssing.
>>>
>>> Post the set rs = statement and let's have a look at it.
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>>
>>> Rocky
>>>
>>>
>>> If it is then
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>>> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Pedro Janssen
>>> Sent: Monday, November 27, 2006 6:55 AM
>>> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
>>> Subject: Re: [AccessD] saving values
>>>
>>> Hello Rocky,
>>>
>>> i included the Where statement, but get an eror when closing the subform
>>> with the code:
>>> Runtime error 3201, no current record.
>>> When clicking debug button, rs!edit is highlited yellow.
>>>
>>> I used help, but still do not understand it.
>>>
>>> Pedro Janssen
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>> From: "Beach Access Software" <bchacc at san.rr.com>
>>> To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'"
>>> <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
>>> Sent: Monday, November 27, 2006 2:59 AM
>>> Subject: Re: [AccessD] saving values
>>>
>>>
>>>> Pedro:
>>>>
>>>> You need to add the WHERE clause to your set statement:
>>>>
>>>> Set rs = db.OpenRecordset("Select Era, Periode, Epoch, Etage, Tijd FROM
>>>> tblFossielData WHERE tblFossielDataPrimaryKey = " & lngKeyValue)
>>>>
>>>> Do you know what the primary key value is of the record you want to
>>>> update
>>>> with the values from the unbound text boxes?
>>>>
>>>> Rocky
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>>>> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Pedro 
>>>> Janssen
>>>> Sent: Sunday, November 26, 2006 2:31 AM
>>>> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
>>>> Subject: Re: [AccessD] saving values
>>>>
>>>> Hello,
>>>>
>>>> how would i point to the first record in the Where clausule with the 
>>>> ID?
>>>> I am placing values from a unbound form, with no ID in a bound form 
>>>> with
>>>> an
>>>> ID (= FossielID).
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Please give me an idea to do this in the code below?
>>>>
>>>> Pedro Janssen
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>>> From: "Beach Access Software" <bchacc at san.rr.com>
>>>> To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'"
>>>> <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
>>>> Sent: Saturday, November 25, 2006 10:30 PM
>>>> Subject: Re: [AccessD] saving values
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Pedro:
>>>>>
>>>>> It looks like you are opening the table with all of the records.  So
>>>>> the
>>>>> record pointer of the recor4dset is always pointing to the first
>>>>> record.
>>>>> You need to either 1) use a WHERE clause in the Set rs =
>>>>> db.OpenRecordset
>>>>> so
>>>>> you get only the record you want, or 2) after opening the recordset 
>>>>> use
>>>>> rs.FindFirst and specify the primary key of the record you want to
>>>>> update.
>>>>> Then the recordset will be positioned at the record you want to 
>>>>> update.
>>>>> Be
>>>>> sure to use if rs.NoMatch just in case the FindFirst doesn't find the
>>>>> record.
>>>>>
>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>
>>>>> Rocky
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>>>>> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Pedro
>>>>> Janssen
>>>>> Sent: Saturday, November 25, 2006 12:37 PM
>>>>> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
>>>>> Subject: Re: [AccessD] saving values
>>>>>
>>>>> Hello Rocky (and Others),
>>>>>
>>>>> the code is working fine, but only for the first record on the form.
>>>>> When i try to use it on the second record (after closing) it jumps to
>>>>> record
>>>>>
>>>>> one and overwrite's the data there.
>>>>> Trying to put the where statement in it to state that ID = ID, it 
>>>>> gives
>>>>> an
>>>>> error on record two that it expects parameter = 1.
>>>>>
>>>>> The code that i use now:
>>>>>
>>>>> Private Sub Form_Close()
>>>>>
>>>>> Dim db As DAO.Database
>>>>> Dim rs As DAO.Recordset
>>>>>
>>>>> Set db = CurrentDb
>>>>> Set rs = db.OpenRecordset("Select Era, Periode, Epoch, Etage, Tijd 
>>>>> FROM
>>>>> tblFossielData")
>>>>>
>>>>> rs.Edit
>>>>> rs!Era = cboEra
>>>>> rs!Periode = cboPeriode
>>>>> rs!Epoch = cboEpoch
>>>>> rs!Etage = cboEtage
>>>>> rs!Tijd = cboTijd
>>>>> rs.Update
>>>>>
>>>>> rs.Close
>>>>> db.Close
>>>>>
>>>>> Set rs = Nothing
>>>>> Set db = Nothing
>>>>>
>>>>> Me.Requery
>>>>>
>>>>> End Sub
>>>>>
>>>>> What can i do about this?
>>>>>
>>>>> Pedro Janssen
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>>>> From: "Beach Access Software" <bchacc at san.rr.com>
>>>>> To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'"
>>>>> <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
>>>>> Sent: Friday, November 24, 2006 9:09 PM
>>>>> Subject: Re: [AccessD] saving values
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Pedro:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Just off the top and untested:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Dim db as DAO.Database
>>>>>> Dim rs as DAO.Recordset
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Set db = CurrentDb
>>>>>> Set rs = db.OpenRecordset("Select fldOne, fldTwo, fldThree FROM
>>>>>> tblMyTable
>>>>>> WHERE fldPK = " & lngPrimaryKey)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ' Note: You could use any criteria you want in the WHERE clause;
>>>>>> doesn't
>>>>>> have to be the primary key.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> rs.Edit
>>>>>> rs!fldOne = cboComboBox1
>>>>>> rs!fldTwo = cboComboBox2
>>>>>> rs!fldThree = cboComboBox3
>>>>>> rs.Update
>>>>>>
>>>>>> rs.Close
>>>>>> db.Close
>>>>>>
>>>>>> set rs = Nothing
>>>>>> set db = Nothing
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Me.Requery (assuming you want the values to show on the bound form.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Or here's another approach which I think should work but I haven't
>>>>>> tested:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Set db = CurrentDb
>>>>>> Db.Execute "UPDATE tblMyTable SET tblMyTable.fldOne = '" &
>>>>>> cboComboBox1
>>>>>> &
>>>>>> "', tblMyTable.fldTwo= '" & cboComboBox2 & "', tblMyTable.fldThree =
>>>>>> '"
>>>>>> &
>>>>>> cboComboBox3 & "';"
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Note that I have assumes that the values are string values and so 
>>>>>> need
>>>>>> to
>>>>>> have preceding and following apostrophes.  If the values are numeric
>>>>>> then
>>>>>> they won't need the '.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I'm sure someone else looking at this code will make the appropriate
>>>>>> corrections.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Rocky
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>>>>>> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Pedro
>>>>>> Janssen
>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, November 23, 2006 3:35 PM
>>>>>> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [AccessD] saving values
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hello Rocky,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> could you give me an example of that, preferably in a example
>>>>>> database.
>>>>>> I have tried several things until now but nothing is working perfect.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Pedro Janssen
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>>>>> From: "Beach Access Software" <bchacc at san.rr.com>
>>>>>> To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'"
>>>>>> <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
>>>>>> Sent: Friday, November 24, 2006 12:07 AM
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [AccessD] saving values
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I'd use Dao, open the record in question, push the value in, and
>>>>>>> requery
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>> form.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Rocky
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>>>>>>> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Pedro
>>>>>>> Janssen
>>>>>>> Sent: 23 November 2006 13:32
>>>>>>> To: AccessD
>>>>>>> Subject: [AccessD] saving values
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hello Group,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> i still have troubles saving values from unbound comboxes (cascade)
>>>>>>> in
>>>>>>> table
>>>>>>> fields.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> What is the best way to do this.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Pedro Janssen
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From rusty.hammond at cpiqpc.com  Tue Nov 28 16:43:40 2006
From: rusty.hammond at cpiqpc.com (rusty.hammond at cpiqpc.com)
Date: Tue, 28 Nov 2006 16:43:40 -0600
Subject: [AccessD] Linked Table to SQL Database
Message-ID: <8301C8A868251E4C8ECD3D4FFEA40F8A2584B722@cpixchng-1.cpiqpc.net>

Arthur,

Interesting approach.  I've done some brief reading BOL and I can see where
this could speed up a few applications I have here.

Thanks!

Rusty

-----Original Message-----
From: artful at rogers.com [mailto:artful at rogers.com]
Sent: Tuesday, November 28, 2006 4:21 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Linked Table to SQL Database


You can also employ a technique called horizontal partitioning, which will
break the large table into two or more chunks that exist as several physical
files. The advantage to this approach is that if and when you ever need to,
you can address the whole table easily. Look in BOL for Horizontal
Partitioning.

Arthur


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To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
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Sent: Tuesday, November 28, 2006 4:34:10 PM
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Linked Table to SQL Database


Okay.  Thanks a lot!!

Regards,

Keith E. Williamson | Assist. Controller| kwilliamson at rtkl.com

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21231-3305

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Sent: Tuesday, November 28, 2006 4:22 PM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Linked Table to SQL Database

Keith,

Create a view on the SQL server that limits your records, then create
the
link in Access to that view.

If you don't have the rights to the sql server to create the view, you
can
create a pass-through query in Access and limit your records via a SQL
statement in the pass-through query.  A limitation of a pass-through
query
is the data returned is read-only, which may may not work for your
needs.

HTH,

Rusty

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Sent: Tuesday, November 28, 2006 2:44 PM
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Subject: [AccessD] Linked Table to SQL Database


Hey guys,



I've got a linked table to a Sql Server database.  The table has
approximately 2,000,000 (yes..that is TWO MILLION...PLUS) records in it.
The data goes back at least 10 years.  I only need the data for, at
most, this year onward.  Is there a way to limit the link, to only pull
out data older than 01/01/06?  I am sure that Access will really chug,
trying to go through the 2,000,000 records (if a query will even be able
to handle it.)



Thanks,



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From pedro at plex.nl  Tue Nov 28 17:10:09 2006
From: pedro at plex.nl (Pedro Janssen)
Date: Wed, 29 Nov 2006 00:10:09 +0100
Subject: [AccessD] saving values
References: <007101c7130d$cebf61e0$6401a8c0@HAL9005>
Message-ID: <000c01c71342$59e52ff0$4001a8c0@qmotionfaa3ad9>

Hello Rocky,

i have thought about the problem to.
On the unbound form i have put a textbos with the controlsource is refered 
to the ID-field in the Bound form,
so ik kan put both in the Where statement, but then the field is requeried 
after losing the focus (values are filled in),
it jumps to record one.
I will send you the zipped testdatabase again.

Pedro Janssen



----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Beach Access Software" <bchacc at san.rr.com>
To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'" 
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Tuesday, November 28, 2006 5:54 PM
Subject: Re: [AccessD] saving values


> Pedro:
>
> Haven't forgotten about you but I'm a little backed up this morning. 
> Stand
> by...
>
> Rocky
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Pedro Janssen
> Sent: Monday, November 27, 2006 3:05 PM
> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] saving values
>
> Hello Rocky,
>
> In this testdatabase is just want to make the cascadecombox selection 
> trying
>
> to work, for a major Fossil Database.
> The Main Table in the test is tblFossieldata (fossildata). The form
> frmFossielData is bound to that table.
> In this table you see the fields Era, Periode, Epoch, Etage and Tijd. 
> These
> are Geological Timetable fields. These fields are just textfields
>
> The table tblTijdschaal (timescale) I filled with the vlues that i want to
> use in the tblFossielData, in the fields that i mentioned before.
> Normally i would do this with a combobox for each, but the list of 
> timescale
>
> is very large, so i would simplify that by using a cascadecombo, that is
> present in frmTijdschaal.
>
> When opening a record in frmFossielData, and field Era gets the focus (in
> the real database there wil be a button click event), the unbound subform
> gets the focus.
> By using the cascade, Each field is filtered by the value of the combobox
> before.
> When selected the values in the five cascade comboboxes, i want to close 
> the
>
> frmTijdschaal en the values of Era.frmTijdschaal must be placed in the 
> field
>
> Era of frmFossielData, etc for the other four fields.
>
> Pedro Janssen
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Beach Access Software" <bchacc at san.rr.com>
> To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'"
> <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
> Sent: Monday, November 27, 2006 11:31 PM
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] saving values
>
>
>> Pedro:
>>
>> You are using my variable name lngKeyValue for the criterion in the WHERE
>> clause to limit the recordset to the one record you are looking for.  You
>> should use the value of the field from the combo box, instead.
>>
>> And I'm not clear on what you're trying to store or what the relationship
>> is
>> between the two tables.  So I can't be more precise.
>>
>> Tell me again the user process and what you're trying to accomplish.
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Rocky
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Pedro Janssen
>> Sent: Monday, November 27, 2006 11:51 AM
>> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
>> Subject: Re: [AccessD] saving values
>>
>> Hello Rocky,
>>
>> the message that is get back is "Holy Moly!  There's No Records In
>> Here!!! -
>>
>> 0
>>
>> That is strange, because in record two the FossielID (Primary Key of the
>> table) value is 2 (auto Number field).
>>
>> Ik could sent you the small test.mdb,
>> maybe you have seen the problem then in a minute?
>>
>> Pedro Janssen
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Beach Access Software" <bchacc at san.rr.com>
>> To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'"
>> <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
>> Sent: Monday, November 27, 2006 4:39 PM
>> Subject: Re: [AccessD] saving values
>>
>>
>>> Pedro:
>>>
>>> Just a guess but perhaps using the WHERE clause returns no records
>>> because
>>> the value for the PK you're using is invalid.
>>>
>>> After the set rs = statement put
>>>
>>> If rs.bof=true and rs.eof=true then
>>> Msgbox "Holy Moly!  There's No Records In Here!!! - " &
>>> lngKeyValue
>>> Exit sub
>>> End if
>>>
>>> To see if that's the case and what the value is of the key you're
>>> apssing.
>>>
>>> Post the set rs = statement and let's have a look at it.
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>>
>>> Rocky
>>>
>>>
>>> If it is then
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>>> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Pedro Janssen
>>> Sent: Monday, November 27, 2006 6:55 AM
>>> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
>>> Subject: Re: [AccessD] saving values
>>>
>>> Hello Rocky,
>>>
>>> i included the Where statement, but get an eror when closing the subform
>>> with the code:
>>> Runtime error 3201, no current record.
>>> When clicking debug button, rs!edit is highlited yellow.
>>>
>>> I used help, but still do not understand it.
>>>
>>> Pedro Janssen
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>> From: "Beach Access Software" <bchacc at san.rr.com>
>>> To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'"
>>> <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
>>> Sent: Monday, November 27, 2006 2:59 AM
>>> Subject: Re: [AccessD] saving values
>>>
>>>
>>>> Pedro:
>>>>
>>>> You need to add the WHERE clause to your set statement:
>>>>
>>>> Set rs = db.OpenRecordset("Select Era, Periode, Epoch, Etage, Tijd FROM
>>>> tblFossielData WHERE tblFossielDataPrimaryKey = " & lngKeyValue)
>>>>
>>>> Do you know what the primary key value is of the record you want to
>>>> update
>>>> with the values from the unbound text boxes?
>>>>
>>>> Rocky
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>>>> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Pedro 
>>>> Janssen
>>>> Sent: Sunday, November 26, 2006 2:31 AM
>>>> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
>>>> Subject: Re: [AccessD] saving values
>>>>
>>>> Hello,
>>>>
>>>> how would i point to the first record in the Where clausule with the 
>>>> ID?
>>>> I am placing values from a unbound form, with no ID in a bound form 
>>>> with
>>>> an
>>>> ID (= FossielID).
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Please give me an idea to do this in the code below?
>>>>
>>>> Pedro Janssen
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>>> From: "Beach Access Software" <bchacc at san.rr.com>
>>>> To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'"
>>>> <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
>>>> Sent: Saturday, November 25, 2006 10:30 PM
>>>> Subject: Re: [AccessD] saving values
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Pedro:
>>>>>
>>>>> It looks like you are opening the table with all of the records.  So
>>>>> the
>>>>> record pointer of the recor4dset is always pointing to the first
>>>>> record.
>>>>> You need to either 1) use a WHERE clause in the Set rs =
>>>>> db.OpenRecordset
>>>>> so
>>>>> you get only the record you want, or 2) after opening the recordset 
>>>>> use
>>>>> rs.FindFirst and specify the primary key of the record you want to
>>>>> update.
>>>>> Then the recordset will be positioned at the record you want to 
>>>>> update.
>>>>> Be
>>>>> sure to use if rs.NoMatch just in case the FindFirst doesn't find the
>>>>> record.
>>>>>
>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>
>>>>> Rocky
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>>>>> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Pedro
>>>>> Janssen
>>>>> Sent: Saturday, November 25, 2006 12:37 PM
>>>>> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
>>>>> Subject: Re: [AccessD] saving values
>>>>>
>>>>> Hello Rocky (and Others),
>>>>>
>>>>> the code is working fine, but only for the first record on the form.
>>>>> When i try to use it on the second record (after closing) it jumps to
>>>>> record
>>>>>
>>>>> one and overwrite's the data there.
>>>>> Trying to put the where statement in it to state that ID = ID, it 
>>>>> gives
>>>>> an
>>>>> error on record two that it expects parameter = 1.
>>>>>
>>>>> The code that i use now:
>>>>>
>>>>> Private Sub Form_Close()
>>>>>
>>>>> Dim db As DAO.Database
>>>>> Dim rs As DAO.Recordset
>>>>>
>>>>> Set db = CurrentDb
>>>>> Set rs = db.OpenRecordset("Select Era, Periode, Epoch, Etage, Tijd 
>>>>> FROM
>>>>> tblFossielData")
>>>>>
>>>>> rs.Edit
>>>>> rs!Era = cboEra
>>>>> rs!Periode = cboPeriode
>>>>> rs!Epoch = cboEpoch
>>>>> rs!Etage = cboEtage
>>>>> rs!Tijd = cboTijd
>>>>> rs.Update
>>>>>
>>>>> rs.Close
>>>>> db.Close
>>>>>
>>>>> Set rs = Nothing
>>>>> Set db = Nothing
>>>>>
>>>>> Me.Requery
>>>>>
>>>>> End Sub
>>>>>
>>>>> What can i do about this?
>>>>>
>>>>> Pedro Janssen
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>>>> From: "Beach Access Software" <bchacc at san.rr.com>
>>>>> To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'"
>>>>> <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
>>>>> Sent: Friday, November 24, 2006 9:09 PM
>>>>> Subject: Re: [AccessD] saving values
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Pedro:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Just off the top and untested:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Dim db as DAO.Database
>>>>>> Dim rs as DAO.Recordset
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Set db = CurrentDb
>>>>>> Set rs = db.OpenRecordset("Select fldOne, fldTwo, fldThree FROM
>>>>>> tblMyTable
>>>>>> WHERE fldPK = " & lngPrimaryKey)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ' Note: You could use any criteria you want in the WHERE clause;
>>>>>> doesn't
>>>>>> have to be the primary key.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> rs.Edit
>>>>>> rs!fldOne = cboComboBox1
>>>>>> rs!fldTwo = cboComboBox2
>>>>>> rs!fldThree = cboComboBox3
>>>>>> rs.Update
>>>>>>
>>>>>> rs.Close
>>>>>> db.Close
>>>>>>
>>>>>> set rs = Nothing
>>>>>> set db = Nothing
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Me.Requery (assuming you want the values to show on the bound form.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Or here's another approach which I think should work but I haven't
>>>>>> tested:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Set db = CurrentDb
>>>>>> Db.Execute "UPDATE tblMyTable SET tblMyTable.fldOne = '" &
>>>>>> cboComboBox1
>>>>>> &
>>>>>> "', tblMyTable.fldTwo= '" & cboComboBox2 & "', tblMyTable.fldThree =
>>>>>> '"
>>>>>> &
>>>>>> cboComboBox3 & "';"
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Note that I have assumes that the values are string values and so 
>>>>>> need
>>>>>> to
>>>>>> have preceding and following apostrophes.  If the values are numeric
>>>>>> then
>>>>>> they won't need the '.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I'm sure someone else looking at this code will make the appropriate
>>>>>> corrections.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Rocky
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>>>>>> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Pedro
>>>>>> Janssen
>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, November 23, 2006 3:35 PM
>>>>>> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [AccessD] saving values
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hello Rocky,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> could you give me an example of that, preferably in a example
>>>>>> database.
>>>>>> I have tried several things until now but nothing is working perfect.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Pedro Janssen
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>>>>> From: "Beach Access Software" <bchacc at san.rr.com>
>>>>>> To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'"
>>>>>> <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
>>>>>> Sent: Friday, November 24, 2006 12:07 AM
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [AccessD] saving values
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I'd use Dao, open the record in question, push the value in, and
>>>>>>> requery
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>> form.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Rocky
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>>>>>>> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Pedro
>>>>>>> Janssen
>>>>>>> Sent: 23 November 2006 13:32
>>>>>>> To: AccessD
>>>>>>> Subject: [AccessD] saving values
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hello Group,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> i still have troubles saving values from unbound comboxes (cascade)
>>>>>>> in
>>>>>>> table
>>>>>>> fields.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> What is the best way to do this.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Pedro Janssen
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From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com  Tue Nov 28 17:53:25 2006
From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (JWColby)
Date: Tue, 28 Nov 2006 18:53:25 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Linked Table to SQL Database
In-Reply-To: <20061128222035.313.qmail@web88211.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <006c01c71348$65b014c0$657aa8c0@m6805>

Whoa, that sounds handy. 


John W. Colby
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-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of artful at rogers.com
Sent: Tuesday, November 28, 2006 5:21 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Linked Table to SQL Database

You can also employ a technique called horizontal partitioning, which will
break the large table into two or more chunks that exist as several physical
files. The advantage to this approach is that if and when you ever need to,
you can address the whole table easily. Look in BOL for Horizontal
Partitioning.

Arthur


----- Original Message ----
From: Keith Williamson <Kwilliamson at rtkl.com>
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Tuesday, November 28, 2006 4:34:10 PM
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Linked Table to SQL Database


Okay.  Thanks a lot!!

Regards,

Keith E. Williamson | Assist. Controller| kwilliamson at rtkl.com

RTKL Associates Inc. | 901 South Bond Street | Baltimore, Maryland
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-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of
rusty.hammond at cpiqpc.com
Sent: Tuesday, November 28, 2006 4:22 PM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Linked Table to SQL Database

Keith,

Create a view on the SQL server that limits your records, then create the
link in Access to that view.

If you don't have the rights to the sql server to create the view, you can
create a pass-through query in Access and limit your records via a SQL
statement in the pass-through query.  A limitation of a pass-through query
is the data returned is read-only, which may may not work for your needs.

HTH,

Rusty

-----Original Message-----
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Sent: Tuesday, November 28, 2006 2:44 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: [AccessD] Linked Table to SQL Database


Hey guys,



I've got a linked table to a Sql Server database.  The table has
approximately 2,000,000 (yes..that is TWO MILLION...PLUS) records in it.
The data goes back at least 10 years.  I only need the data for, at most,
this year onward.  Is there a way to limit the link, to only pull out data
older than 01/01/06?  I am sure that Access will really chug, trying to go
through the 2,000,000 records (if a query will even be able to handle it.)



Thanks,



Keith E. Williamson | Assist. Controller| kwilliamson at rtkl.com

RTKL Associates Inc. | 901 South Bond Street | Baltimore, Maryland
21231-3305

410-537-6098 direct | 410-276-2136 fax | www.rtkl.com <http://www.rtkl.com/>




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From shamil at users.mns.ru  Tue Nov 28 14:03:40 2006
From: shamil at users.mns.ru (Shamil Salakhetdinov)
Date: Tue, 28 Nov 2006 23:03:40 +0300
Subject: [AccessD] ADO Problem
In-Reply-To: <00b901c71324$71176ee0$6401a8c0@HAL9005>
Message-ID: <000801c71328$4c8458f0$6401a8c0@nant>

Hello Rocky,

Is that MS Access BE, which is used with ADO? - then this should work:

   conn.Execute "INSERT INTO tWeeklyUpdateSent ( DateSent ) " & _
                 "SELECT " & CLng(dtToday)


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-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Beach Access
Software
Sent: Tuesday, November 28, 2006 10:36 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: Re: [AccessD] ADO Problem

Using:

"SELECT #" & dtToday & "#"

He gets an error message: 

Invalid column name '#11'

dtToaday does contain 11/28/2006

What else could it be?

MTIA

Rocky


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of McGillivray, Don
[IT]
Sent: Tuesday, November 28, 2006 10:39 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] ADO Problem

Hi, Rocky.  

Just a WAG (I don't know ADO), but how 'bout:

?? Conn.Execute "INSERT INTO tWeeklyUpdateSent ( DateSent ) " & _
???????????????? "SELECT #" & dtToday & "#;" 

Don

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Beach Access
Software
Sent: Tuesday, November 28, 2006 10:15 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] ADO Problem

Dear List:

A colleague (who thinks I know ADO) writes in to ask why the following:

?? Conn.Execute "INSERT INTO tWeeklyUpdateSent ( DateSent ) " & _
???????????????? "SELECT " & dtToday & ""

Inserts a record into tWeeklyUpdateSent so the conection is OK.  But but the
date is 1/1/1900 instead of today's date.

I had him check the contents of dtToday and it does indeed have 11/28/2006
in it.

Does anyone see what he's doing wrong here?


MTIA

Rocky





From bchacc at san.rr.com  Tue Nov 28 18:19:44 2006
From: bchacc at san.rr.com (Beach Access Software)
Date: Tue, 28 Nov 2006 16:19:44 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] ADO Problem
In-Reply-To: <456CAD78.3567.1CF8BFAE@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>
Message-ID: <013301c7134c$1290f300$6401a8c0@HAL9005>

Single quotes did it!!! Thanks everybody for your assistance.

Best,

Rocky


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Stuart McLachlan
Sent: Tuesday, November 28, 2006 1:43 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] ADO Problem

On 28 Nov 2006 at 10:15, Beach Access Software wrote:

> Dear List:
> 
> A colleague (who thinks I know ADO) writes in to ask why the following:
> 
> ?? Conn.Execute "INSERT INTO tWeeklyUpdateSent ( DateSent ) " & _
> ???????????????? "SELECT " & dtToday & ""
> 
> Inserts a record into tWeeklyUpdateSent so the conection is OK.  But but
the
> date is 1/1/1900 instead of today?s date.

You are building  a string which looks like:
INSERT INTO tWeeklyUpdateSent ( DateSent ) SELECT 11/28/2006

What you want is:
INSERT INTO tWeeklyUpdateSent ( DateSent ) SELECT '11/28/2006'

so you need to use
 ... "SELECT '" & dtToday & "'"
(note the two single quotes)

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From bheygood at abestsystems.com  Tue Nov 28 19:20:34 2006
From: bheygood at abestsystems.com (Bob Heygood)
Date: Tue, 28 Nov 2006 17:20:34 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] Clipboard message
In-Reply-To: <AIEKKBIAKDJNAFGABNJKIEMLGOAA.bheygood@abestsystems.com>
Message-ID: <AIEKKBIAKDJNAFGABNJKIEAIGPAA.bheygood@abestsystems.com>



Hello to the list,

I am getting a message when closing a form on which I use the standard copy
record code. The message states that I have a large amount of data on the
clipboard, do I want to keep it or not.

I could care less, but my client would like not to see the message.

Is there a way to suppress???

What event to set warnings false???


TIA

best


Bob




From wdhindman at dejpolsystems.com  Tue Nov 28 19:40:27 2006
From: wdhindman at dejpolsystems.com (William Hindman)
Date: Tue, 28 Nov 2006 20:40:27 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Checking control property in an external mde database
References: <003801c712fc$bd55e4d0$6401a8c0@HAL9005>
Message-ID: <007201c71357$59c406d0$3e3de844@50NM721>

...lol ...the intent was to suggest that your method of protecting your 
product could be bypassed. :)

William Hindman
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To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'" 
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Tuesday, November 28, 2006 9:51 AM
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Checking control property in an external mde database


>I use the best first party software from A.D. Tejpal, Pty.  Who you gonna
> call?
>
> Rocky
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of William Hindman
> Sent: Monday, November 27, 2006 10:59 PM
> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] Checking control property in an external mde 
> database
>
> ...isn't it fairly easy to modify labels on mde forms using 3rd party
> software?
>
> William Hindman
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Beach Access Software" <bchacc at san.rr.com>
> To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'"
> <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, November 28, 2006 1:05 AM
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] Checking control property in an external mde 
> database
>
>
>> A.D.:
>>
>> Thanks for that function.  My Chinese distributor wants to be able to 
>> make
>> demo systems over there. I want to let them make demos only from the very
>> restricted 35 part version.  So if the 35 part limit label is visible in
>> the
>> mde, I will let the program run which creates an encrypted key with a
>> thirty
>> day limit.
>>
>> This will solve the problem.
>>
>> Thanks and regards,
>>
>> Rocky
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of A.D.TEJPAL
>> Sent: Monday, November 27, 2006 9:50 PM
>> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
>> Subject: Re: [AccessD] Checking control property in an external mde
>> database
>>
>> Rocky,
>>
>>    For accessing control's properties, the form has to be open either in
>> design or run time view. In case of mde, design view is ruled out.
>>
>>    Function Fn_IsControlVisibleInExternalDb() as given below, will get 
>> you
>> the visible status of desired control in external db. Though it involves
>> opening & closing of target form in external db, the process remains
>> invisible to the user.
>>
>>    Note - If the target form is in datasheet view, mere checking of
>> visible
>> property does not conclusively establish whether the column in question 
>> is
>> displayed or not. For that, ColumnHidden property has to be verified.
>> Interestingly, ColumnHidden property is detectable only at run time (not
>> in
>> design view).
>>
>> Best wishes,
>> A.D.Tejpal
>> ----------------
>>
>> =====================================
>> Function Fn_IsControlVisibleInExternalDb( _
>>                ByVal FilePath As String, _
>>                ByVal FormName As String, _
>>                ByVal ControlName As String) As Boolean
>>    ' Returns True if the control is visible.
>>    ' Otherwise False
>>    On Error GoTo ErrTrap
>>    Dim acp As Access.Application
>>
>>    Fn_IsControlVisibleInExternalDb = False     ' Default
>>
>>    Set acp = New Access.Application
>>    acp.OpenCurrentDatabase FilePath
>>
>>    acp.DoCmd.OpenForm FormName
>>
>>    If acp.Forms(FormName)(ControlName).Visible _
>>                                                            = True Then
>>        Fn_IsControlVisibleInExternalDb = True
>>    End If
>>    acp.DoCmd.Close acForm, FormName
>>
>> ExitPoint:
>>    On Error Resume Next
>>    acp.Quit
>>    Set acp = Nothing
>>    On Error GoTo 0
>>    Exit Function
>>
>> ErrTrap:
>>    MsgBox "Err " & Err.Number & " - " & Err.Description
>>    Resume ExitPoint
>> End Function
>> =====================================
>>
>>  ----- Original Message ----- 
>>  From: Beach Access Software
>>  To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
>>  Sent: Saturday, November 25, 2006 19:38
>>  Subject: [AccessD] Checking control property in an external mde database
>>
>>
>>  Dear List:
>>
>>  Is it possible to check the visible property of a control on a form in
>>  another database which is an mde?  Would it be necessary to have that
>> database is currently open with that form opened?
>>
>>  MTIA
>>
>>  Rocky
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From developer at ultradnt.com  Tue Nov 28 20:10:14 2006
From: developer at ultradnt.com (Steve Conklin)
Date: Tue, 28 Nov 2006 21:10:14 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Upgrading from Access 2000 to 2003
In-Reply-To: <001201c7128d$a00b1cc0$6501a8c0@office>
Message-ID: <011101c7135b$85178010$0200a8c0@ULTRADNT>

Kath:
>>>>>>>There is a new level of error checking in 2003. Any controls that do
not have tne control source in a form's source will create new error
messages (shouldn't have any of those but it found a couple!) . Error
checking levels can be adjusted thru the menu. (tools, options, error
checking).
>>>>>>>
Is this why I get, in A2k2-3, random #error in text boxes that have
"=GetDefault()" or some such function call as their source?  I have been
just moving these function calls to the code in form.current, and that has
worked around it.  Lowering, or turning off one these options in Error
Checking will prevent this?

Thanks,
Steve



-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Kath Pelletti
Sent: Monday, November 27, 2006 8:36 PM
To: Access D Normal List
Subject: [AccessD] Upgrading from Access 2000 to 2003

I've been keeping track of issues I have faced when I had to upgrade a
client's system from Access 2000 to 2003 this month. 

I thought it might be worthwhile posting my brief list in case anyone else
needs to do the same - and maybe those of you who have worked in 2003 more
than I have can add to it.....

- Start with new 2003 database, and change default file format to 2002-2003
before importing all objects, file import specs, relationships.
- Recreate Startup options and update all references
- Check all report settings for reports which do not use the default
printer. (I found that those that use a specific printer, eg. pdf995 had
reverted to default printer on import).
- Check that toolbars are displayed. Even though they are imported, I found
that I had to turn then on manually (change properties to allow them to be
turned on / turn them on / change properties back again)
- All references to the commondialog control need to be re-written (browse /
save dialogues)
- Change the [Tools] [Macro] [Security] level to Low to prevent users
getting the msg "Do you want to block unsafe expressions?"
- There is a new level of error checking in 2003. Any controls that do not
have tne control source in a form's source will create new error messages
(shouldn't have any of those but it found a couple!) . Error checking levels
can be adjusted thru the menu. (tools, options, error checking).

______________________________________
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From kp at sdsonline.net  Tue Nov 28 20:19:06 2006
From: kp at sdsonline.net (Kath Pelletti)
Date: Wed, 29 Nov 2006 13:19:06 +1100
Subject: [AccessD] Upgrading from Access 2000 to 2003
References: <011101c7135b$85178010$0200a8c0@ULTRADNT>
Message-ID: <002d01c7135c$bfa0bd90$6501a8c0@office>

Steve - if you are calling a function which it can't locate then I'd say that would be why you're getting the error messages. The setting under tools, options, error checking looks like it would allow you to turn it all off or select individually, in your case you could turn off 'invalid control properties'. 

I'm still deciding because I'm new to 2003 how much to turn off but some of them seem ridiculous, eg. 'unassociated labels'.

Kath
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Steve Conklin 
  To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' 
  Sent: Wednesday, November 29, 2006 1:10 PM
  Subject: Re: [AccessD] Upgrading from Access 2000 to 2003


  Kath:
  >>>>>>>There is a new level of error checking in 2003. Any controls that do
  not have tne control source in a form's source will create new error
  messages (shouldn't have any of those but it found a couple!) . Error
  checking levels can be adjusted thru the menu. (tools, options, error
  checking).
  >>>>>>>
  Is this why I get, in A2k2-3, random #error in text boxes that have
  "=GetDefault()" or some such function call as their source?  I have been
  just moving these function calls to the code in form.current, and that has
  worked around it.  Lowering, or turning off one these options in Error
  Checking will prevent this?

  Thanks,
  Steve



  -----Original Message-----
  From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
  [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Kath Pelletti
  Sent: Monday, November 27, 2006 8:36 PM
  To: Access D Normal List
  Subject: [AccessD] Upgrading from Access 2000 to 2003

  I've been keeping track of issues I have faced when I had to upgrade a
  client's system from Access 2000 to 2003 this month. 

  I thought it might be worthwhile posting my brief list in case anyone else
  needs to do the same - and maybe those of you who have worked in 2003 more
  than I have can add to it.....

  - Start with new 2003 database, and change default file format to 2002-2003
  before importing all objects, file import specs, relationships.
  - Recreate Startup options and update all references
  - Check all report settings for reports which do not use the default
  printer. (I found that those that use a specific printer, eg. pdf995 had
  reverted to default printer on import).
  - Check that toolbars are displayed. Even though they are imported, I found
  that I had to turn then on manually (change properties to allow them to be
  turned on / turn them on / change properties back again)
  - All references to the commondialog control need to be re-written (browse /
  save dialogues)
  - Change the [Tools] [Macro] [Security] level to Low to prevent users
  getting the msg "Do you want to block unsafe expressions?"
  - There is a new level of error checking in 2003. Any controls that do not
  have tne control source in a form's source will create new error messages
  (shouldn't have any of those but it found a couple!) . Error checking levels
  can be adjusted thru the menu. (tools, options, error checking).

  ______________________________________
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From developer at ultradnt.com  Tue Nov 28 22:49:41 2006
From: developer at ultradnt.com (Steve Conklin)
Date: Tue, 28 Nov 2006 23:49:41 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Upgrading from Access 2000 to 2003
In-Reply-To: <002d01c7135c$bfa0bd90$6501a8c0@office>
Message-ID: <012901c71371$cbb83df0$0200a8c0@ULTRADNT>

Kath - I still can't understand  why the form can't find the function, but
the vba behind the form can ... Next time this hits, I'll try turning off
'invalid control properties'.

Thanks,
Steve


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Kath Pelletti
Sent: Tuesday, November 28, 2006 9:19 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Upgrading from Access 2000 to 2003

Steve - if you are calling a function which it can't locate then I'd say
that would be why you're getting the error messages. The setting under
tools, options, error checking looks like it would allow you to turn it all
off or select individually, in your case you could turn off 'invalid control
properties'. 

I'm still deciding because I'm new to 2003 how much to turn off but some of
them seem ridiculous, eg. 'unassociated labels'.

Kath
  ----- Original Message -----
  From: Steve Conklin
  To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' 
  Sent: Wednesday, November 29, 2006 1:10 PM
  Subject: Re: [AccessD] Upgrading from Access 2000 to 2003


  Kath:
  >>>>>>>There is a new level of error checking in 2003. Any controls that
do
  not have tne control source in a form's source will create new error
  messages (shouldn't have any of those but it found a couple!) . Error
  checking levels can be adjusted thru the menu. (tools, options, error
  checking).
  >>>>>>>
  Is this why I get, in A2k2-3, random #error in text boxes that have
  "=GetDefault()" or some such function call as their source?  I have been
  just moving these function calls to the code in form.current, and that has
  worked around it.  Lowering, or turning off one these options in Error
  Checking will prevent this?

  Thanks,
  Steve



  -----Original Message-----
  From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
  [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Kath Pelletti
  Sent: Monday, November 27, 2006 8:36 PM
  To: Access D Normal List
  Subject: [AccessD] Upgrading from Access 2000 to 2003

  I've been keeping track of issues I have faced when I had to upgrade a
  client's system from Access 2000 to 2003 this month. 

  I thought it might be worthwhile posting my brief list in case anyone else
  needs to do the same - and maybe those of you who have worked in 2003 more
  than I have can add to it.....

  - Start with new 2003 database, and change default file format to
2002-2003
  before importing all objects, file import specs, relationships.
  - Recreate Startup options and update all references
  - Check all report settings for reports which do not use the default
  printer. (I found that those that use a specific printer, eg. pdf995 had
  reverted to default printer on import).
  - Check that toolbars are displayed. Even though they are imported, I
found
  that I had to turn then on manually (change properties to allow them to be
  turned on / turn them on / change properties back again)
  - All references to the commondialog control need to be re-written (browse
/
  save dialogues)
  - Change the [Tools] [Macro] [Security] level to Low to prevent users
  getting the msg "Do you want to block unsafe expressions?"
  - There is a new level of error checking in 2003. Any controls that do not
  have tne control source in a form's source will create new error messages
  (shouldn't have any of those but it found a couple!) . Error checking
levels
  can be adjusted thru the menu. (tools, options, error checking).

  ______________________________________
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From adtp at airtelbroadband.in  Tue Nov 28 23:29:04 2006
From: adtp at airtelbroadband.in (A.D.TEJPAL)
Date: Wed, 29 Nov 2006 10:59:04 +0530
Subject: [AccessD] ADO Problem
References: <008501c71319$265e68a0$6401a8c0@HAL9005>
Message-ID: <001801c71377$77172530$1b1665cb@pcadt>


Rocky,

    You might recall the thread "Date Comparison Problem" initiated by you in march-2006. It elicited the overall consensus that in order to avoid any possible pitfalls on account of various regional settings (that might differ from US date format), any date variable to be concatenated into a VBA string should first be preformatted to "mm/dd/yyyy" format.

    Accordingly, the following syntax should ideally be adopted:

    "INSERT INTO tWeeklyUpdateSent " & _
    "(DateSent) VALUES (#" & _
    Format(dtToday, "mm/dd/yyyy") & "#);"

Best wishes,
A.D.Tejpal
---------------

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Beach Access Software 
  To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' 
  Sent: Tuesday, November 28, 2006 23:45
  Subject: [AccessD] ADO Problem


  Dear List:

  A colleague (who thinks I know ADO) writes in to ask why the following:

  Conn.Execute "INSERT INTO tWeeklyUpdateSent ( DateSent ) " & _
  "SELECT " & dtToday & ""

  Inserts a record into tWeeklyUpdateSent so the conection is OK.  But but the date is 1/1/1900 instead of today's date.

  I had him check the contents of dtToday and it does indeed have 11/28/2006 in it.

  Does anyone see what he's doing wrong here?

  MTIA

  Rocky

From kp at sdsonline.net  Tue Nov 28 23:35:39 2006
From: kp at sdsonline.net (Kath Pelletti)
Date: Wed, 29 Nov 2006 16:35:39 +1100
Subject: [AccessD] Upgrading from Access 2000 to 2003
References: <012901c71371$cbb83df0$0200a8c0@ULTRADNT>
Message-ID: <004f01c71378$35021280$6501a8c0@office>

Steve - I'm not quite sure what you mean when you say the vba can but the form can't.....

You have a control with =getdefault() which throws an error but you can use the same code in the vba window to force the control to be populated and it works? That's interesting because I had a control with syntax something like this =txtjob.column(1). When I opened the form the text box would be empty but if I clicked into it then the contents would display.

I had to add code to the form's load event to set the value to get it to work. (even though it worked in A2K). 
Sounds like a bug - I don't know that adjusting the level of error checking will help that.

Kath

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Steve Conklin 
  To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' 
  Sent: Wednesday, November 29, 2006 3:49 PM
  Subject: Re: [AccessD] Upgrading from Access 2000 to 2003


  Kath - I still can't understand  why the form can't find the function, but
  the vba behind the form can ... Next time this hits, I'll try turning off
  'invalid control properties'.

  Thanks,
  Steve


  -----Original Message-----
  From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
  [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Kath Pelletti
  Sent: Tuesday, November 28, 2006 9:19 PM
  To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
  Subject: Re: [AccessD] Upgrading from Access 2000 to 2003

  Steve - if you are calling a function which it can't locate then I'd say
  that would be why you're getting the error messages. The setting under
  tools, options, error checking looks like it would allow you to turn it all
  off or select individually, in your case you could turn off 'invalid control
  properties'. 

  I'm still deciding because I'm new to 2003 how much to turn off but some of
  them seem ridiculous, eg. 'unassociated labels'.

  Kath
    ----- Original Message -----
    From: Steve Conklin
    To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' 
    Sent: Wednesday, November 29, 2006 1:10 PM
    Subject: Re: [AccessD] Upgrading from Access 2000 to 2003


    Kath:
    >>>>>>>There is a new level of error checking in 2003. Any controls that
  do
    not have tne control source in a form's source will create new error
    messages (shouldn't have any of those but it found a couple!) . Error
    checking levels can be adjusted thru the menu. (tools, options, error
    checking).
    >>>>>>>
    Is this why I get, in A2k2-3, random #error in text boxes that have
    "=GetDefault()" or some such function call as their source?  I have been
    just moving these function calls to the code in form.current, and that has
    worked around it.  Lowering, or turning off one these options in Error
    Checking will prevent this?

    Thanks,
    Steve



    -----Original Message-----
    From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
    [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Kath Pelletti
    Sent: Monday, November 27, 2006 8:36 PM
    To: Access D Normal List
    Subject: [AccessD] Upgrading from Access 2000 to 2003

    I've been keeping track of issues I have faced when I had to upgrade a
    client's system from Access 2000 to 2003 this month. 

    I thought it might be worthwhile posting my brief list in case anyone else
    needs to do the same - and maybe those of you who have worked in 2003 more
    than I have can add to it.....

    - Start with new 2003 database, and change default file format to
  2002-2003
    before importing all objects, file import specs, relationships.
    - Recreate Startup options and update all references
    - Check all report settings for reports which do not use the default
    printer. (I found that those that use a specific printer, eg. pdf995 had
    reverted to default printer on import).
    - Check that toolbars are displayed. Even though they are imported, I
  found
    that I had to turn then on manually (change properties to allow them to be
    turned on / turn them on / change properties back again)
    - All references to the commondialog control need to be re-written (browse
  /
    save dialogues)
    - Change the [Tools] [Macro] [Security] level to Low to prevent users
    getting the msg "Do you want to block unsafe expressions?"
    - There is a new level of error checking in 2003. Any controls that do not
    have tne control source in a form's source will create new error messages
    (shouldn't have any of those but it found a couple!) . Error checking
  levels
    can be adjusted thru the menu. (tools, options, error checking).

    ______________________________________
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From bchacc at san.rr.com  Wed Nov 29 00:32:28 2006
From: bchacc at san.rr.com (Beach Access Software)
Date: Tue, 28 Nov 2006 22:32:28 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] ADO Problem
In-Reply-To: <001801c71377$77172530$1b1665cb@pcadt>
Message-ID: <016801c71380$24ab82b0$6401a8c0@HAL9005>

A.D.:

It seems that the apostrophe solved the problem and that the # didn't work.
Do you think it will work in conjunction with Format?

Regards,

Rocky


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[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of A.D.TEJPAL
Sent: Tuesday, November 28, 2006 9:29 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] ADO Problem


Rocky,

    You might recall the thread "Date Comparison Problem" initiated by you
in march-2006. It elicited the overall consensus that in order to avoid any
possible pitfalls on account of various regional settings (that might differ
from US date format), any date variable to be concatenated into a VBA string
should first be preformatted to "mm/dd/yyyy" format.

    Accordingly, the following syntax should ideally be adopted:

    "INSERT INTO tWeeklyUpdateSent " & _
    "(DateSent) VALUES (#" & _
    Format(dtToday, "mm/dd/yyyy") & "#);"

Best wishes,
A.D.Tejpal
---------------

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Beach Access Software 
  To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' 
  Sent: Tuesday, November 28, 2006 23:45
  Subject: [AccessD] ADO Problem


  Dear List:

  A colleague (who thinks I know ADO) writes in to ask why the following:

  Conn.Execute "INSERT INTO tWeeklyUpdateSent ( DateSent ) " & _
  "SELECT " & dtToday & ""

  Inserts a record into tWeeklyUpdateSent so the conection is OK.  But but
the date is 1/1/1900 instead of today's date.

  I had him check the contents of dtToday and it does indeed have 11/28/2006
in it.

  Does anyone see what he's doing wrong here?

  MTIA

  Rocky
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From Gustav at cactus.dk  Wed Nov 29 02:28:34 2006
From: Gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Wed, 29 Nov 2006 09:28:34 +0100
Subject: [AccessD] ADO Problem
Message-ID: <s56d52e7.008@cactus.dk>

Hi James and Rocky

Well, this will only work in a US environment. 
As A.D states, anyone else will have to format the date value as a US formatted date/time expression or - most SQL engines accept that nowadays - an ISO formatted date/time expression with or without slashes: yyyy-mm-dd hh:nn:ss

/gustav

>>> James at fcidms.com 28-11-2006 20:55:01 >>>
Rocky:
You probably want something like:

Conn.Execute "INSERT INTO tWeeklyUpdateSent ( DateSent ) Values (#" &
dtToday & "#)" 

This will work with an ADODB connection to Access. If you are linking to SQL
Server, you should replace the # with ' (Single Quote).

Hope this helps.

James Barash



From cclenright at yahoo.com  Wed Nov 29 05:14:08 2006
From: cclenright at yahoo.com (Chris Enright)
Date: Wed, 29 Nov 2006 03:14:08 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [AccessD] Single and Double Inverted Commas!
Message-ID: <20061129111408.35698.qmail@web34304.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

  I am getting too old and have been away from programming far too long
  I never have understood the use of " and ' completely
  Could someone please correct this for me,
  Me.MonTotDBAdmin.ControlSource =
  and what I want it to equal is
  =DSum("DCAdminEventTime","qryIG_Mon") 
  but with the IG being replaced with strInitials
  My attempt with strInitials="EM" came out as =DSum('DCAdminEventTime','qryEM_Mon') and wouldn't work
   
  Thanks 
  Chris

 
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From developer at ultradnt.com  Wed Nov 29 06:00:23 2006
From: developer at ultradnt.com (Steve Conklin)
Date: Wed, 29 Nov 2006 07:00:23 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Upgrading from Access 2000 to 2003
In-Reply-To: <004f01c71378$35021280$6501a8c0@office>
Message-ID: <014001c713ad$f63fe140$0200a8c0@ULTRADNT>

Kath:
Yes, that's exactly it: >>but you can use the same code in the vba window to
force the control to be populated and it works?>>
I even also had it happen to the buttons on an Access-generated switchboard.
After moving it from 2000 to 2002, the  "=HandleButtonClick(1)" in the
property sheet caused on-click errors.  Moved those expressions to code
behind the form, and now the buttons work.  Report text boxes, too.
Anything that can be set to an expression in a property sheet - I lost a lot
of time at first with this, but now my first move is to move the expression
to code, and it works. (I've seen this on 2002 & 2003 and on machines with
Win 2000 & XP, its not just my PC.)

Steve


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Kath Pelletti
Sent: Wednesday, November 29, 2006 12:36 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Upgrading from Access 2000 to 2003

Steve - I'm not quite sure what you mean when you say the vba can but the
form can't.....

You have a control with =getdefault() which throws an error but you can use
the same code in the vba window to force the control to be populated and it
works? That's interesting because I had a control with syntax something like
this =txtjob.column(1). When I opened the form the text box would be empty
but if I clicked into it then the contents would display.

I had to add code to the form's load event to set the value to get it to
work. (even though it worked in A2K). 
Sounds like a bug - I don't know that adjusting the level of error checking
will help that.

Kath

  ----- Original Message -----
  From: Steve Conklin
  To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' 
  Sent: Wednesday, November 29, 2006 3:49 PM
  Subject: Re: [AccessD] Upgrading from Access 2000 to 2003


  Kath - I still can't understand  why the form can't find the function, but
  the vba behind the form can ... Next time this hits, I'll try turning off
  'invalid control properties'.

  Thanks,
  Steve


  -----Original Message-----
  From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
  [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Kath Pelletti
  Sent: Tuesday, November 28, 2006 9:19 PM
  To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
  Subject: Re: [AccessD] Upgrading from Access 2000 to 2003

  Steve - if you are calling a function which it can't locate then I'd say
  that would be why you're getting the error messages. The setting under
  tools, options, error checking looks like it would allow you to turn it
all
  off or select individually, in your case you could turn off 'invalid
control
  properties'. 

  I'm still deciding because I'm new to 2003 how much to turn off but some
of
  them seem ridiculous, eg. 'unassociated labels'.

  Kath
    ----- Original Message -----
    From: Steve Conklin
    To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' 
    Sent: Wednesday, November 29, 2006 1:10 PM
    Subject: Re: [AccessD] Upgrading from Access 2000 to 2003


    Kath:
    >>>>>>>There is a new level of error checking in 2003. Any controls that
  do
    not have tne control source in a form's source will create new error
    messages (shouldn't have any of those but it found a couple!) . Error
    checking levels can be adjusted thru the menu. (tools, options, error
    checking).
    >>>>>>>
    Is this why I get, in A2k2-3, random #error in text boxes that have
    "=GetDefault()" or some such function call as their source?  I have been
    just moving these function calls to the code in form.current, and that
has
    worked around it.  Lowering, or turning off one these options in Error
    Checking will prevent this?

    Thanks,
    Steve



    -----Original Message-----
    From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
    [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Kath Pelletti
    Sent: Monday, November 27, 2006 8:36 PM
    To: Access D Normal List
    Subject: [AccessD] Upgrading from Access 2000 to 2003

    I've been keeping track of issues I have faced when I had to upgrade a
    client's system from Access 2000 to 2003 this month. 

    I thought it might be worthwhile posting my brief list in case anyone
else
    needs to do the same - and maybe those of you who have worked in 2003
more
    than I have can add to it.....

    - Start with new 2003 database, and change default file format to
  2002-2003
    before importing all objects, file import specs, relationships.
    - Recreate Startup options and update all references
    - Check all report settings for reports which do not use the default
    printer. (I found that those that use a specific printer, eg. pdf995 had
    reverted to default printer on import).
    - Check that toolbars are displayed. Even though they are imported, I
  found
    that I had to turn then on manually (change properties to allow them to
be
    turned on / turn them on / change properties back again)
    - All references to the commondialog control need to be re-written
(browse
  /
    save dialogues)
    - Change the [Tools] [Macro] [Security] level to Low to prevent users
    getting the msg "Do you want to block unsafe expressions?"
    - There is a new level of error checking in 2003. Any controls that do
not
    have tne control source in a form's source will create new error
messages
    (shouldn't have any of those but it found a couple!) . Error checking
  levels
    can be adjusted thru the menu. (tools, options, error checking).

    ______________________________________
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From adtp at airtelbroadband.in  Wed Nov 29 06:22:27 2006
From: adtp at airtelbroadband.in (A.D.TEJPAL)
Date: Wed, 29 Nov 2006 17:52:27 +0530
Subject: [AccessD] ADO Problem
References: <016801c71380$24ab82b0$6401a8c0@HAL9005>
Message-ID: <006201c713b1$38378410$e70265cb@pcadt>

Rocky,

    The syntax suggested in my post was duly tested before dispatch. As pointed out by Gustav, the alternative one, involving direct concatenation, that was successfully tried by you, worked because you must have tested it on a system having regional settings conforming to US date format.

    For consistent results internationally, it would be safest to adhere to the syntax mentioned in my post.

Best wishes,
A.D.Tejpal
---------------

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Beach Access Software 
  To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' 
  Sent: Wednesday, November 29, 2006 12:02
  Subject: Re: [AccessD] ADO Problem


  A.D.:

  It seems that the apostrophe solved the problem and that the # didn't work. Do you think it will work in conjunction with Format?

  Regards,

  Rocky


  -----Original Message-----
  From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
  [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of A.D.TEJPAL
  Sent: Tuesday, November 28, 2006 9:29 PM
  To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
  Subject: Re: [AccessD] ADO Problem

  Rocky,

      You might recall the thread "Date Comparison Problem" initiated by you in march-2006. It elicited the overall consensus that in order to avoid any possible pitfalls on account of various regional settings (that might differ from US date format), any date variable to be concatenated into a VBA string should first be preformatted to "mm/dd/yyyy" format.

      Accordingly, the following syntax should ideally be adopted:

      "INSERT INTO tWeeklyUpdateSent " & _
      "(DateSent) VALUES (#" & _
      Format(dtToday, "mm/dd/yyyy") & "#);"

  Best wishes,
  A.D.Tejpal
  ---------------

    ----- Original Message ----- 
    From: Beach Access Software 
    To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' 
    Sent: Tuesday, November 28, 2006 23:45
    Subject: [AccessD] ADO Problem

    Dear List:

    A colleague (who thinks I know ADO) writes in to ask why the following:

    Conn.Execute "INSERT INTO tWeeklyUpdateSent ( DateSent ) " & _
    "SELECT " & dtToday & ""

    Inserts a record into tWeeklyUpdateSent so the conection is OK.  But but
  the date is 1/1/1900 instead of today's date.

    I had him check the contents of dtToday and it does indeed have 11/28/2006
  in it.

    Does anyone see what he's doing wrong here?

    MTIA

    Rocky

From Kwilliamson at RTKL.com  Wed Nov 29 08:13:28 2006
From: Kwilliamson at RTKL.com (Keith Williamson)
Date: Wed, 29 Nov 2006 09:13:28 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Linked Table to SQL Database
In-Reply-To: <20061128222035.313.qmail@web88211.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <B61870319AC0CC42A143BA69E5798D08028B12@fenwick.rtkl.rtkl.net>

Unfortunately, I really don't have access to the original table.  I only
get an ODBC link to it.  I might be able to get a limited "view" to a
couple of the really hefty tables, as Rusty recommended.

Thanks,

Keith E. Williamson | Assist. Controller| kwilliamson at rtkl.com

RTKL Associates Inc. | 901 South Bond Street | Baltimore, Maryland
21231-3305

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-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of
artful at rogers.com
Sent: Tuesday, November 28, 2006 5:21 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Linked Table to SQL Database

You can also employ a technique called horizontal partitioning, which
will break the large table into two or more chunks that exist as several
physical files. The advantage to this approach is that if and when you
ever need to, you can address the whole table easily. Look in BOL for
Horizontal Partitioning.

Arthur


----- Original Message ----
From: Keith Williamson <Kwilliamson at rtkl.com>
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Tuesday, November 28, 2006 4:34:10 PM
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Linked Table to SQL Database


Okay.  Thanks a lot!!

Regards,

Keith E. Williamson | Assist. Controller| kwilliamson at rtkl.com

RTKL Associates Inc. | 901 South Bond Street | Baltimore, Maryland
21231-3305

410-537-6098 direct | 410-276-2136 fax | www.rtkl.com

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of
rusty.hammond at cpiqpc.com
Sent: Tuesday, November 28, 2006 4:22 PM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Linked Table to SQL Database

Keith,

Create a view on the SQL server that limits your records, then create
the
link in Access to that view.

If you don't have the rights to the sql server to create the view, you
can
create a pass-through query in Access and limit your records via a SQL
statement in the pass-through query.  A limitation of a pass-through
query
is the data returned is read-only, which may may not work for your
needs.

HTH,

Rusty

-----Original Message-----
From: Keith Williamson [mailto:Kwilliamson at rtkl.com]
Sent: Tuesday, November 28, 2006 2:44 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: [AccessD] Linked Table to SQL Database


Hey guys,



I've got a linked table to a Sql Server database.  The table has
approximately 2,000,000 (yes..that is TWO MILLION...PLUS) records in it.
The data goes back at least 10 years.  I only need the data for, at
most, this year onward.  Is there a way to limit the link, to only pull
out data older than 01/01/06?  I am sure that Access will really chug,
trying to go through the 2,000,000 records (if a query will even be able
to handle it.)



Thanks,



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From Kwilliamson at RTKL.com  Wed Nov 29 08:17:32 2006
From: Kwilliamson at RTKL.com (Keith Williamson)
Date: Wed, 29 Nov 2006 09:17:32 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] CSV export
Message-ID: <B61870319AC0CC42A143BA69E5798D08028B19@fenwick.rtkl.rtkl.net>

Guys, I am probably showing my rustiness now.....   :-).........but how
do I do a VBA export of a report.  I have a report that I need to export
in CSV format, for uploading into another program.  I can't really just
use the query behind the report for the "TransferText" command....as the
report actually calculates some ledger codes, and summaries.  I would
hate to do an excel export, and then convert out of excel.  

 

Any help would be appreciated.

 

By the way........I am sure that I will be much more active on this side
of the lists (rather than OT), as my new job is getting me back into
some coding (at least for the short term).  I also don't have time for
OT at work (just the odd, untimely responses, from home.)

 

:-)

 

Thanks again,

 

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From garykjos at gmail.com  Wed Nov 29 09:43:15 2006
From: garykjos at gmail.com (Gary Kjos)
Date: Wed, 29 Nov 2006 09:43:15 -0600
Subject: [AccessD] CSV export
In-Reply-To: <B61870319AC0CC42A143BA69E5798D08028B19@fenwick.rtkl.rtkl.net>
References: <B61870319AC0CC42A143BA69E5798D08028B19@fenwick.rtkl.rtkl.net>
Message-ID: <aea6c4950611290743l1d54c7a5m83b494899b0246c4@mail.gmail.com>

According to the Access 97 help you would use the Output To method of
the DoCmd Object.

Something like

DoCmd.OutputTo acOutputReport, "rptKeithsReport", acFormatTXT,
"C:\WORK\KeithsReportOutput.CSV", True

I'm thinking you will be getting less than satisfactory results though
if my experience exporting reports to Excel format from Access is any
indication. I think you would do well to clone the query and introduce
the logical stuff the report does to come up with any fields that
don't exist in the orginal query. With reports exported directly to
Excel I always get lots of extraneous columns.

Good luck.

GK

Here's more info on the Output To;
-------------------------------------------------------
The OutputTo method carries out the OutputTo action in Visual Basic.
For more information on how the action and its arguments work, see the
action topic.

Syntax

DoCmd.OutputTo objecttype[, objectname][, outputformat][,
outputfile][, autostart][, templatefile]

The OutputTo method has the following arguments.

Argument	Description

objecttype	One of the following intrinsic constants:
acOutputForm
acOutputModule
acOutputQuery
acOutputReport
acOutputTable
objectname	A string expression that's the valid name of an object of
the type selected by the objecttype argument. If you want to output
the active object, specify the object's type for the objecttype
argument and leave this argument blank.
If you run Visual Basic code containing the OutputTo method in a
library database, Microsoft Access looks for the object with this name
first in the library database, then in the current database.
outputformat	One of the following intrinsic constants:
acFormatActiveXServer
acFormatHTML
acFormatIIS
acFormatRTF
acFormatTXT
acFormatXLS
If you leave this argument blank, Microsoft Access prompts you for the
output format.
outputfile	A string expression that's the full name, including the
path, of the file you want to output the object to.
If you leave this argument blank, Microsoft Access prompts you for an
output file name.
autostart	Use True (?1) to start the appropriate Microsoft
Windows?based application immediately, with the file specified by the
outputfile argument loaded. Use False (0) if you don't want to start
the application. This argument is ignored for Microsoft Internet
Information Server (.htx, .idc) files and Microsoft ActiveX Server
(*.asp) files.
If you leave this argument blank, the default (False) is assumed.
templatefile	A string expression that's the full name, including the
path, of the file you want to use as a template for an HTML, HTX, or
ASP file.
Remarks

Modules can be output only in MS-DOS Text format, so if you specify
acOutputModule for the objecttype argument, you must specify
acFormatTXT for the outputformat argument. Microsoft Internet
Information Server and Microsoft ActiveX Server formats are available
only for tables, queries, and forms, so if you specify acFormatIIS or
acFormatActiveXServer for the outputformat argument, you must specify
acOutputTable, acOutputQuery, or acOutputForm for the objecttype
argument.

You can leave an optional argument blank in the middle of the syntax,
but you must include the argument's comma. If you leave a trailing
argument blank, don't use a comma following the last argument you
specify.

-- 
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From mmmtbig at bellsouth.net  Wed Nov 29 09:45:49 2006
From: mmmtbig at bellsouth.net (Myke Myers)
Date: Wed, 29 Nov 2006 10:45:49 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Email Automation to Outlook problem
Message-ID: <00ab01c713cd$7aa95690$6701a8c0@tbig1>

I have several Access 2003 apps that use automation to send email through
Outlook (on Exchange server).

Recently at a client site the Outlook-Exchange server quit sending the
email.

It is rejecting the email address because it has apostrophes around it,
e.g.,

	'johndoe at aol.com'

Until last week it sent the email with apostrophes around it without any
hesitation.

Does anyone have any insight into what could have caused the problem and/or
solutions?

TIA,

Myke




From bchacc at san.rr.com  Wed Nov 29 09:58:41 2006
From: bchacc at san.rr.com (Beach Access Software)
Date: Wed, 29 Nov 2006 07:58:41 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] CSV export
In-Reply-To: <B61870319AC0CC42A143BA69E5798D08028B19@fenwick.rtkl.rtkl.net>
Message-ID: <004901c713cf$3de05ae0$6401a8c0@HAL9005>

Keith:

I wouldn't export the report.  I'd probably create a temp table to store the
values and export to an Excel spreadsheet.  You could actually export the
formulas this way if you wanted to.

Rocky


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Keith Williamson
Sent: Wednesday, November 29, 2006 6:18 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: [AccessD] CSV export

Guys, I am probably showing my rustiness now.....   :-).........but how
do I do a VBA export of a report.  I have a report that I need to export
in CSV format, for uploading into another program.  I can't really just
use the query behind the report for the "TransferText" command....as the
report actually calculates some ledger codes, and summaries.  I would
hate to do an excel export, and then convert out of excel.  

 

Any help would be appreciated.

 

By the way........I am sure that I will be much more active on this side
of the lists (rather than OT), as my new job is getting me back into
some coding (at least for the short term).  I also don't have time for
OT at work (just the odd, untimely responses, from home.)

 

:-)

 

Thanks again,

 

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From Gustav at cactus.dk  Wed Nov 29 10:10:54 2006
From: Gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Wed, 29 Nov 2006 17:10:54 +0100
Subject: [AccessD] Email Automation to Outlook problem
Message-ID: <s56dbf29.014@cactus.dk>

Hi Myke

The obvious solution is to adjust your code to stop wrapping the address in apostrophes. 
If, for some reason, that can't be done, change these to brackets like:

  <johndoe at aol.com>

/gustav


>>> mmmtbig at bellsouth.net 29-11-2006 16:45:49 >>>
I have several Access 2003 apps that use automation to send email through
Outlook (on Exchange server).

Recently at a client site the Outlook-Exchange server quit sending the
email.

It is rejecting the email address because it has apostrophes around it,
e.g.,

	'johndoe at aol.com'

Until last week it sent the email with apostrophes around it without any
hesitation.

Does anyone have any insight into what could have caused the problem and/or
solutions?

TIA,

Myke



From Gustav at cactus.dk  Wed Nov 29 10:19:32 2006
From: Gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Wed, 29 Nov 2006 17:19:32 +0100
Subject: [AccessD] Single and Double Inverted Commas!
Message-ID: <s56dc147.015@cactus.dk>

Hi Chris

How about a lazy solution:

  strControlSource = "=DSum('DCAdminEventTime','qryEM_Mon')"
  Me.MonTotDBAdmin.ControlSource = Replace(strControlSource,"'","""")

/gustav


>>> cclenright at yahoo.com 29-11-2006 12:14:08 >>>
  I am getting too old and have been away from programming far too long
  I never have understood the use of " and ' completely
  Could someone please correct this for me,
  Me.MonTotDBAdmin.ControlSource =
  and what I want it to equal is
  =DSum("DCAdminEventTime","qryIG_Mon") 
  but with the IG being replaced with strInitials
  My attempt with strInitials="EM" came out as =DSum('DCAdminEventTime','qryEM_Mon') and wouldn't work
   
  Thanks 
  Chris




From ssharkins at setel.com  Wed Nov 29 10:40:32 2006
From: ssharkins at setel.com (Susan Harkins)
Date: Wed, 29 Nov 2006 11:40:32 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Email Automation to Outlook problem
In-Reply-To: <s56dbf29.014@cactus.dk>
Message-ID: <000101c713d5$16e97970$8bbc2ad1@SUSANONE>

Gustav,

	This is something that Outlook seems to do on its own -- at least on
my system. An address that's worked for years will suddenly not send. In the
header, I can see the apostrophes. I delete the address, re-enter it, and 9
times out of 10, it goes. No clue... 

	In my case, there's no code involved -- this is all Outlook. 

Susan H. 

The obvious solution is to adjust your code to stop wrapping the address in
apostrophes. 
If, for some reason, that can't be done, change these to brackets like:

  <johndoe at aol.com>




From Gustav at cactus.dk  Wed Nov 29 11:09:03 2006
From: Gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Wed, 29 Nov 2006 18:09:03 +0100
Subject: [AccessD] Email Automation to Outlook problem
Message-ID: <s56dcce3.017@cactus.dk>

Hi Susan and Chris

Oh, that's another story - I don't use Outlook - so I cannot help. 
Could it be an automatic Windows Updating issue?

/gustav

>>> ssharkins at setel.com 29-11-2006 17:40:32 >>>
Gustav,

	This is something that Outlook seems to do on its own -- at least on
my system. An address that's worked for years will suddenly not send. In the
header, I can see the apostrophes. I delete the address, re-enter it, and 9
times out of 10, it goes. No clue... 

	In my case, there's no code involved -- this is all Outlook. 

Susan H. 

The obvious solution is to adjust your code to stop wrapping the address in
apostrophes. 
If, for some reason, that can't be done, change these to brackets like:

  <johndoe at aol.com>



From markamatte at hotmail.com  Wed Nov 29 14:24:22 2006
From: markamatte at hotmail.com (Mark A Matte)
Date: Wed, 29 Nov 2006 20:24:22 +0000
Subject: [AccessD] Email Automation to Outlook problem
In-Reply-To: <s56dcce3.017@cactus.dk>
Message-ID: <BAY127-F11CCC2599B0D5DB7749C4BD2E40@phx.gbl>

I am actually having a related issue right now.  I have a db that imports 
data every 30 minutes...does an analysis...and emails results using outlook. 
  It worked fine for a year...and now outlook crashes almost everytime with 
"An unknown Error".  If I execute the exact same code from a button instead 
of a timer, it runs fine...I'm lost at this time.  I need a way to send an 
email without using outlook...I guess?

Thanks,

Mark A. Matte

>From: "Gustav Brock" <Gustav at cactus.dk>
>Reply-To: Access Developers discussion and problem 
>solving<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
>To: <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
>Subject: Re: [AccessD] Email Automation to Outlook problem
>Date: Wed, 29 Nov 2006 18:09:03 +0100
>
>Hi Susan and Chris
>
>Oh, that's another story - I don't use Outlook - so I cannot help.
>Could it be an automatic Windows Updating issue?
>
>/gustav
>
> >>> ssharkins at setel.com 29-11-2006 17:40:32 >>>
>Gustav,
>
>	This is something that Outlook seems to do on its own -- at least on
>my system. An address that's worked for years will suddenly not send. In 
>the
>header, I can see the apostrophes. I delete the address, re-enter it, and 9
>times out of 10, it goes. No clue...
>
>	In my case, there's no code involved -- this is all Outlook.
>
>Susan H.
>
>The obvious solution is to adjust your code to stop wrapping the address in
>apostrophes.
>If, for some reason, that can't be done, change these to brackets like:
>
>   <johndoe at aol.com>
>
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From wdhindman at dejpolsystems.com  Wed Nov 29 15:12:25 2006
From: wdhindman at dejpolsystems.com (William Hindman)
Date: Wed, 29 Nov 2006 16:12:25 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Email Automation to Outlook problem
References: <BAY127-F11CCC2599B0D5DB7749C4BD2E40@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <005b01c713fb$121bcf80$3e3de844@50NM721>

...have you tried a restore point before it started failing ...imnsho 
Microsoft has returned to issuing updates without thoroughly vetting them 
...it seems everytime MS does an update these days, my phone starts ringing 
:(

William Hindman
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Mark A Matte" <markamatte at hotmail.com>
To: <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Wednesday, November 29, 2006 3:24 PM
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Email Automation to Outlook problem


>I am actually having a related issue right now.  I have a db that imports
> data every 30 minutes...does an analysis...and emails results using 
> outlook.
>  It worked fine for a year...and now outlook crashes almost everytime with
> "An unknown Error".  If I execute the exact same code from a button 
> instead
> of a timer, it runs fine...I'm lost at this time.  I need a way to send an
> email without using outlook...I guess?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Mark A. Matte
>
>>From: "Gustav Brock" <Gustav at cactus.dk>
>>Reply-To: Access Developers discussion and problem
>>solving<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
>>To: <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
>>Subject: Re: [AccessD] Email Automation to Outlook problem
>>Date: Wed, 29 Nov 2006 18:09:03 +0100
>>
>>Hi Susan and Chris
>>
>>Oh, that's another story - I don't use Outlook - so I cannot help.
>>Could it be an automatic Windows Updating issue?
>>
>>/gustav
>>
>> >>> ssharkins at setel.com 29-11-2006 17:40:32 >>>
>>Gustav,
>>
>> This is something that Outlook seems to do on its own -- at least on
>>my system. An address that's worked for years will suddenly not send. In
>>the
>>header, I can see the apostrophes. I delete the address, re-enter it, and 
>>9
>>times out of 10, it goes. No clue...
>>
>> In my case, there's no code involved -- this is all Outlook.
>>
>>Susan H.
>>
>>The obvious solution is to adjust your code to stop wrapping the address 
>>in
>>apostrophes.
>>If, for some reason, that can't be done, change these to brackets like:
>>
>>   <johndoe at aol.com>
>>
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From markamatte at hotmail.com  Wed Nov 29 15:22:31 2006
From: markamatte at hotmail.com (Mark A Matte)
Date: Wed, 29 Nov 2006 21:22:31 +0000
Subject: [AccessD] Email Automation to Outlook problem
In-Reply-To: <005b01c713fb$121bcf80$3e3de844@50NM721>
Message-ID: <BAY127-F40B28E3F17624F99571B91D2E40@phx.gbl>


I'll have to give this a try...but if it had any updates...they would have 
to have been automatic...its an old box running 2K Server...and I haven't 
run any updates in quite sometime.  The weird part for me...is I can run the 
code from a button...but not a timer event???

Thanks,

Mark A. Matte

>From: "William Hindman" <wdhindman at dejpolsystems.com>
>Reply-To: Access Developers discussion and problem 
>solving<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
>To: "Access Developers discussion and problem 
>solving"<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
>Subject: Re: [AccessD] Email Automation to Outlook problem
>Date: Wed, 29 Nov 2006 16:12:25 -0500
>
>...have you tried a restore point before it started failing ...imnsho
>Microsoft has returned to issuing updates without thoroughly vetting them
>...it seems everytime MS does an update these days, my phone starts ringing
>:(
>
>William Hindman
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Mark A Matte" <markamatte at hotmail.com>
>To: <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
>Sent: Wednesday, November 29, 2006 3:24 PM
>Subject: Re: [AccessD] Email Automation to Outlook problem
>
>
> >I am actually having a related issue right now.  I have a db that imports
> > data every 30 minutes...does an analysis...and emails results using
> > outlook.
> >  It worked fine for a year...and now outlook crashes almost everytime 
>with
> > "An unknown Error".  If I execute the exact same code from a button
> > instead
> > of a timer, it runs fine...I'm lost at this time.  I need a way to send 
>an
> > email without using outlook...I guess?
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Mark A. Matte
> >
> >>From: "Gustav Brock" <Gustav at cactus.dk>
> >>Reply-To: Access Developers discussion and problem
> >>solving<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
> >>To: <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
> >>Subject: Re: [AccessD] Email Automation to Outlook problem
> >>Date: Wed, 29 Nov 2006 18:09:03 +0100
> >>
> >>Hi Susan and Chris
> >>
> >>Oh, that's another story - I don't use Outlook - so I cannot help.
> >>Could it be an automatic Windows Updating issue?
> >>
> >>/gustav
> >>
> >> >>> ssharkins at setel.com 29-11-2006 17:40:32 >>>
> >>Gustav,
> >>
> >> This is something that Outlook seems to do on its own -- at least on
> >>my system. An address that's worked for years will suddenly not send. In
> >>the
> >>header, I can see the apostrophes. I delete the address, re-enter it, 
>and
> >>9
> >>times out of 10, it goes. No clue...
> >>
> >> In my case, there's no code involved -- this is all Outlook.
> >>
> >>Susan H.
> >>
> >>The obvious solution is to adjust your code to stop wrapping the address
> >>in
> >>apostrophes.
> >>If, for some reason, that can't be done, change these to brackets like:
> >>
> >>   <johndoe at aol.com>
> >>
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From mmmtbig at bellsouth.net  Wed Nov 29 15:23:11 2006
From: mmmtbig at bellsouth.net (Myke Myers)
Date: Wed, 29 Nov 2006 16:23:11 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Email Automation to Outlook problem
In-Reply-To: <BAY127-F11CCC2599B0D5DB7749C4BD2E40@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <015a01c713fc$964f3c50$6701a8c0@tbig1>

I don't seem to be able to get rid of the apostrophes around the email
address.

Per Susan H.'s recommendation, I added brackets:
	itm.To = "<" & strEmailAddr & ">"

Still shows up in Outlook with apostrophes and no brackets.

Maybe this is some spam-fighting patch in Outlook implemented by Microsoft
recently.

It is causing big trouble for my client (and me).

Myke

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Mark A Matte
Sent: Wednesday, November 29, 2006 3:24 PM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Email Automation to Outlook problem


I am actually having a related issue right now.  I have a db that imports 
data every 30 minutes...does an analysis...and emails results using outlook.

  It worked fine for a year...and now outlook crashes almost everytime with 
"An unknown Error".  If I execute the exact same code from a button instead 
of a timer, it runs fine...I'm lost at this time.  I need a way to send an 
email without using outlook...I guess?

Thanks,

Mark A. Matte

>From: "Gustav Brock" <Gustav at cactus.dk>
>Reply-To: Access Developers discussion and problem
>solving<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
>To: <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
>Subject: Re: [AccessD] Email Automation to Outlook problem
>Date: Wed, 29 Nov 2006 18:09:03 +0100
>
>Hi Susan and Chris
>
>Oh, that's another story - I don't use Outlook - so I cannot help. 
>Could it be an automatic Windows Updating issue?
>
>/gustav
>
> >>> ssharkins at setel.com 29-11-2006 17:40:32 >>>
>Gustav,
>
>	This is something that Outlook seems to do on its own -- at least on

>my system. An address that's worked for years will suddenly not send. 
>In the header, I can see the apostrophes. I delete the address, 
>re-enter it, and 9 times out of 10, it goes. No clue...
>
>	In my case, there's no code involved -- this is all Outlook.
>
>Susan H.
>
>The obvious solution is to adjust your code to stop wrapping the 
>address in apostrophes. If, for some reason, that can't be done, change 
>these to brackets like:
>
>   <johndoe at aol.com>
>
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From cclenright at yahoo.com  Wed Nov 29 15:39:36 2006
From: cclenright at yahoo.com (Chris Enright)
Date: Wed, 29 Nov 2006 13:39:36 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [AccessD] Single and Double Inverted Commas!
Message-ID: <20061129213936.71003.qmail@web34307.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

v\:* {behavior:url (#default#vml);}v\:* {	BEHAVIOR: url (#default#vml)}Hi Gustav,
 
I love lazy!
 
Problem is though that there are 42 controls that I want to change depending on the "strInitials" picked up when the name of the member of staff is selected to open the form.
What I am looking for is the correct syntax for something like
 
Me.MonTotDBAdmin.ControlSource = "=DSum('DCAdminEventTime','qry"   & strInitials &  "_Mon')"
 
Which I know is completely wrong but I have forgotten how to use those %$*^"?$   "s and 's but would create 
=DSum("DCAdminEventTime","qryEM_Mon") if strInitials="EM"

 
Chris
 
-------Original Message-------
 
From: Gustav Brock
Date: 29/11/2006 16:22:02
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Single and Double Inverted Commas!

 
Hi Chris
 
How about a lazy solution:
 
  strControlSource = "=DSum('DCAdminEventTime','qryEM_Mon')"
  Me.MonTotDBAdmin.ControlSource = Replace(strControlSource,"'","""")
 
/gustav
 
 
>>> cclenright at yahoo.com 29-11-2006 12:14:08 >>>
  I am getting too old and have been away from programming far too long
  I never have understood the use of " and ' completely
  Could someone please correct this for me,
  Me.MonTotDBAdmin.ControlSource =
  and what I want it to equal is
  =DSum("DCAdminEventTime","qryIG_Mon")
  but with the IG being replaced with strInitials
  My attempt with strInitials="EM" came out as =DSum('DCAdminEventTime','qryEM_Mon') and wouldn't work
 
  Thanks
  Chris
 
 
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From shamil at users.mns.ru  Wed Nov 29 15:46:47 2006
From: shamil at users.mns.ru (Shamil Salakhetdinov)
Date: Thu, 30 Nov 2006 00:46:47 +0300
Subject: [AccessD] OT: Where can I get good free Code39 barcode's TTF font?
Message-ID: <000901c713ff$de9603b0$6501a8c0@nant>

Hi All,

Could you please advise where to get good TTF fonts for Code 39 barcodes?
I see many choices on Internet - do you know which one is the most useful
and reliable?

Thank you.

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From markamatte at hotmail.com  Wed Nov 29 15:45:29 2006
From: markamatte at hotmail.com (Mark A Matte)
Date: Wed, 29 Nov 2006 21:45:29 +0000
Subject: [AccessD] Email Automation to Outlook problem
In-Reply-To: <015a01c713fc$964f3c50$6701a8c0@tbig1>
Message-ID: <BAY127-F20646324D988D7278B80AAD2E40@phx.gbl>

I was using (before my new issues) the Docmd.SendObject with double quotes:

DoCmd.SendObject , , acFormatHTML, "3362535270 at messaging.sprintpcs.com", 
"1111111111 at messaging.sprintpcs.com", , "Stock", Body, 0


Now it only works when I run the code manually.  Anyway...just thought I'd 
share.

Thanks,

Mark A. Matte


>From: "Myke Myers" <mmmtbig at bellsouth.net>
>Reply-To: Access Developers discussion and problem 
>solving<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
>To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem 
>solving'"<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
>Subject: Re: [AccessD] Email Automation to Outlook problem
>Date: Wed, 29 Nov 2006 16:23:11 -0500
>
>I don't seem to be able to get rid of the apostrophes around the email
>address.
>
>Per Susan H.'s recommendation, I added brackets:
>	itm.To = "<" & strEmailAddr & ">"
>
>Still shows up in Outlook with apostrophes and no brackets.
>
>Maybe this is some spam-fighting patch in Outlook implemented by Microsoft
>recently.
>
>It is causing big trouble for my client (and me).
>
>Myke
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Mark A Matte
>Sent: Wednesday, November 29, 2006 3:24 PM
>To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
>Subject: Re: [AccessD] Email Automation to Outlook problem
>
>
>I am actually having a related issue right now.  I have a db that imports
>data every 30 minutes...does an analysis...and emails results using 
>outlook.
>
>   It worked fine for a year...and now outlook crashes almost everytime 
>with
>"An unknown Error".  If I execute the exact same code from a button instead
>of a timer, it runs fine...I'm lost at this time.  I need a way to send an
>email without using outlook...I guess?
>
>Thanks,
>
>Mark A. Matte
>
> >From: "Gustav Brock" <Gustav at cactus.dk>
> >Reply-To: Access Developers discussion and problem
> >solving<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
> >To: <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
> >Subject: Re: [AccessD] Email Automation to Outlook problem
> >Date: Wed, 29 Nov 2006 18:09:03 +0100
> >
> >Hi Susan and Chris
> >
> >Oh, that's another story - I don't use Outlook - so I cannot help.
> >Could it be an automatic Windows Updating issue?
> >
> >/gustav
> >
> > >>> ssharkins at setel.com 29-11-2006 17:40:32 >>>
> >Gustav,
> >
> >	This is something that Outlook seems to do on its own -- at least on
>
> >my system. An address that's worked for years will suddenly not send.
> >In the header, I can see the apostrophes. I delete the address,
> >re-enter it, and 9 times out of 10, it goes. No clue...
> >
> >	In my case, there's no code involved -- this is all Outlook.
> >
> >Susan H.
> >
> >The obvious solution is to adjust your code to stop wrapping the
> >address in apostrophes. If, for some reason, that can't be done, change
> >these to brackets like:
> >
> >   <johndoe at aol.com>
> >
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From dw-murphy at cox.net  Wed Nov 29 15:52:54 2006
From: dw-murphy at cox.net (Doug Murphy)
Date: Wed, 29 Nov 2006 13:52:54 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] Email Automation to Outlook problem
In-Reply-To: <BAY127-F40B28E3F17624F99571B91D2E40@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <008401c71400$b96b21f0$0200a8c0@murphy3234aaf1>

It may be a windows event conflict.  I am not sure if the timer is an Access
thing or Access running a windows api.  I do know that if Outlook happens to
be sending or receiving when I try and send an email from Access an error is
generated.  This may be way out in left field but something to consider.

Doug 

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Mark A Matte
Sent: Wednesday, November 29, 2006 1:23 PM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Email Automation to Outlook problem


I'll have to give this a try...but if it had any updates...they would have
to have been automatic...its an old box running 2K Server...and I haven't
run any updates in quite sometime.  The weird part for me...is I can run the
code from a button...but not a timer event???

Thanks,

Mark A. Matte

>From: "William Hindman" <wdhindman at dejpolsystems.com>
>Reply-To: Access Developers discussion and problem 
>solving<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
>To: "Access Developers discussion and problem 
>solving"<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
>Subject: Re: [AccessD] Email Automation to Outlook problem
>Date: Wed, 29 Nov 2006 16:12:25 -0500
>
>...have you tried a restore point before it started failing ...imnsho 
>Microsoft has returned to issuing updates without thoroughly vetting 
>them ...it seems everytime MS does an update these days, my phone 
>starts ringing :(
>
>William Hindman
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Mark A Matte" <markamatte at hotmail.com>
>To: <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
>Sent: Wednesday, November 29, 2006 3:24 PM
>Subject: Re: [AccessD] Email Automation to Outlook problem
>
>
> >I am actually having a related issue right now.  I have a db that 
> >imports  data every 30 minutes...does an analysis...and emails 
> >results using  outlook.
> >  It worked fine for a year...and now outlook crashes almost 
> >everytime
>with
> > "An unknown Error".  If I execute the exact same code from a button 
> > instead of a timer, it runs fine...I'm lost at this time.  I need a 
> > way to send
>an
> > email without using outlook...I guess?
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Mark A. Matte
> >
> >>From: "Gustav Brock" <Gustav at cactus.dk>
> >>Reply-To: Access Developers discussion and problem 
> >>solving<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
> >>To: <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
> >>Subject: Re: [AccessD] Email Automation to Outlook problem
> >>Date: Wed, 29 Nov 2006 18:09:03 +0100
> >>
> >>Hi Susan and Chris
> >>
> >>Oh, that's another story - I don't use Outlook - so I cannot help.
> >>Could it be an automatic Windows Updating issue?
> >>
> >>/gustav
> >>
> >> >>> ssharkins at setel.com 29-11-2006 17:40:32 >>>
> >>Gustav,
> >>
> >> This is something that Outlook seems to do on its own -- at least 
> >>on my system. An address that's worked for years will suddenly not 
> >>send. In the header, I can see the apostrophes. I delete the 
> >>address, re-enter it,
>and
> >>9
> >>times out of 10, it goes. No clue...
> >>
> >> In my case, there's no code involved -- this is all Outlook.
> >>
> >>Susan H.
> >>
> >>The obvious solution is to adjust your code to stop wrapping the 
> >>address in apostrophes.
> >>If, for some reason, that can't be done, change these to brackets like:
> >>
> >>   <johndoe at aol.com>
> >>
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From dmcafee at pacbell.net  Wed Nov 29 16:03:13 2006
From: dmcafee at pacbell.net (David Mcafee)
Date: Wed, 29 Nov 2006 14:03:13 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [AccessD] OT: Where can I get good free Code39 barcode's TTF
	font?
Message-ID: <20061129220313.42453.qmail@web80812.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

I've used this one for a while now.

http://www.squaregear.net/fonts/

David

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To: Access-D <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Wednesday, November 29, 2006 1:46:47 PM
Subject: [AccessD] OT: Where can I get good free Code39 barcode's TTF font?

Hi All,

Could you please advise where to get good TTF fonts for Code 39 barcodes?
I see many choices on Internet - do you know which one is the most useful
and reliable?

Thank you.

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From markamatte at hotmail.com  Wed Nov 29 16:11:06 2006
From: markamatte at hotmail.com (Mark A Matte)
Date: Wed, 29 Nov 2006 22:11:06 +0000
Subject: [AccessD] Email Automation to Outlook problem
In-Reply-To: <008401c71400$b96b21f0$0200a8c0@murphy3234aaf1>
Message-ID: <BAY127-F2356897ACE30E1D05A52C4D2E40@phx.gbl>

Also...like I said...no updates that I know of...but this ran fine for over 
a year.

Thanks,

Mark


>From: "Doug Murphy" <dw-murphy at cox.net>
>Reply-To: Access Developers discussion and problem 
>solving<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
>To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem 
>solving'"<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
>Subject: Re: [AccessD] Email Automation to Outlook problem
>Date: Wed, 29 Nov 2006 13:52:54 -0800
>
>It may be a windows event conflict.  I am not sure if the timer is an 
>Access
>thing or Access running a windows api.  I do know that if Outlook happens 
>to
>be sending or receiving when I try and send an email from Access an error 
>is
>generated.  This may be way out in left field but something to consider.
>
>Doug
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Mark A Matte
>Sent: Wednesday, November 29, 2006 1:23 PM
>To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
>Subject: Re: [AccessD] Email Automation to Outlook problem
>
>
>I'll have to give this a try...but if it had any updates...they would have
>to have been automatic...its an old box running 2K Server...and I haven't
>run any updates in quite sometime.  The weird part for me...is I can run 
>the
>code from a button...but not a timer event???
>
>Thanks,
>
>Mark A. Matte
>
> >From: "William Hindman" <wdhindman at dejpolsystems.com>
> >Reply-To: Access Developers discussion and problem
> >solving<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
> >To: "Access Developers discussion and problem
> >solving"<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
> >Subject: Re: [AccessD] Email Automation to Outlook problem
> >Date: Wed, 29 Nov 2006 16:12:25 -0500
> >
> >...have you tried a restore point before it started failing ...imnsho
> >Microsoft has returned to issuing updates without thoroughly vetting
> >them ...it seems everytime MS does an update these days, my phone
> >starts ringing :(
> >
> >William Hindman
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: "Mark A Matte" <markamatte at hotmail.com>
> >To: <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
> >Sent: Wednesday, November 29, 2006 3:24 PM
> >Subject: Re: [AccessD] Email Automation to Outlook problem
> >
> >
> > >I am actually having a related issue right now.  I have a db that
> > >imports  data every 30 minutes...does an analysis...and emails
> > >results using  outlook.
> > >  It worked fine for a year...and now outlook crashes almost
> > >everytime
> >with
> > > "An unknown Error".  If I execute the exact same code from a button
> > > instead of a timer, it runs fine...I'm lost at this time.  I need a
> > > way to send
> >an
> > > email without using outlook...I guess?
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > >
> > > Mark A. Matte
> > >
> > >>From: "Gustav Brock" <Gustav at cactus.dk>
> > >>Reply-To: Access Developers discussion and problem
> > >>solving<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
> > >>To: <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
> > >>Subject: Re: [AccessD] Email Automation to Outlook problem
> > >>Date: Wed, 29 Nov 2006 18:09:03 +0100
> > >>
> > >>Hi Susan and Chris
> > >>
> > >>Oh, that's another story - I don't use Outlook - so I cannot help.
> > >>Could it be an automatic Windows Updating issue?
> > >>
> > >>/gustav
> > >>
> > >> >>> ssharkins at setel.com 29-11-2006 17:40:32 >>>
> > >>Gustav,
> > >>
> > >> This is something that Outlook seems to do on its own -- at least
> > >>on my system. An address that's worked for years will suddenly not
> > >>send. In the header, I can see the apostrophes. I delete the
> > >>address, re-enter it,
> >and
> > >>9
> > >>times out of 10, it goes. No clue...
> > >>
> > >> In my case, there's no code involved -- this is all Outlook.
> > >>
> > >>Susan H.
> > >>
> > >>The obvious solution is to adjust your code to stop wrapping the
> > >>address in apostrophes.
> > >>If, for some reason, that can't be done, change these to brackets 
>like:
> > >>
> > >>   <johndoe at aol.com>
> > >>
> > >>--
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From Lambert.Heenan at AIG.com  Wed Nov 29 16:15:04 2006
From: Lambert.Heenan at AIG.com (Heenan, Lambert)
Date: Wed, 29 Nov 2006 16:15:04 -0600
Subject: [AccessD] Email Automation to Outlook problem
Message-ID: <34C8A2AB1EF3564CB0D64DB6AFFDD5C29DA7A2@xlivmbx35.aig.com>

Hmm.

I notice you are directly assigning the email address to the Item.To field.
No idea why this might suddenly stop working, but as it happens this is
*not* how I address emails. 

Instead I create an Outlook Mail Item...

    Set objOutlookMsg = objOutlook.CreateItem(olMailItem)

...and then add an email address to the collection...

    With objOutlookMsg
         ' Add the To recipient(s) to the message.
          .Recipients.Add("Foo at bar.com") ' add an email address to the
collection

... and define the recipient type ...

          .Recipients.Type = olTo

... and lastly the address is verified using the Resolve method - this will
verify Exchange Server addresses.

        ' Resolve each Recipient's name.
        For Each objOutlookRecip In .Recipients
            If Not objOutlookRecip.Resolve = True Then
                MsgBox "Address " & objOutlookRecip.Name & " does not exist"
                objOutlookRecip.Delete
            End If
        Next
       ...
  End With

I have similar code that takes a delimited list of addresses and adds them
one by one to the Recipients collection.

This "works for me", and has done for years. Currently I'm using it with
Outlook XP (2002).

HTH

Lambert

-----Original Message-----


From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Myke Myers
Sent: Wednesday, November 29, 2006 4:23 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Email Automation to Outlook problem


I don't seem to be able to get rid of the apostrophes around the email
address.

Per Susan H.'s recommendation, I added brackets:
	itm.To = "<" & strEmailAddr & ">"

Still shows up in Outlook with apostrophes and no brackets.

Maybe this is some spam-fighting patch in Outlook implemented by Microsoft
recently.

It is causing big trouble for my client (and me).

Myke

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Mark A Matte
Sent: Wednesday, November 29, 2006 3:24 PM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Email Automation to Outlook problem


I am actually having a related issue right now.  I have a db that imports 
data every 30 minutes...does an analysis...and emails results using outlook.

  It worked fine for a year...and now outlook crashes almost everytime with 
"An unknown Error".  If I execute the exact same code from a button instead 
of a timer, it runs fine...I'm lost at this time.  I need a way to send an 
email without using outlook...I guess?

Thanks,

Mark A. Matte

>From: "Gustav Brock" <Gustav at cactus.dk>
>Reply-To: Access Developers discussion and problem 
>solving<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
>To: <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
>Subject: Re: [AccessD] Email Automation to Outlook problem
>Date: Wed, 29 Nov 2006 18:09:03 +0100
>
>Hi Susan and Chris
>
>Oh, that's another story - I don't use Outlook - so I cannot help.
>Could it be an automatic Windows Updating issue?
>
>/gustav
>
> >>> ssharkins at setel.com 29-11-2006 17:40:32 >>>
>Gustav,
>
>	This is something that Outlook seems to do on its own -- at least on

>my system. An address that's worked for years will suddenly not send.
>In the header, I can see the apostrophes. I delete the address, 
>re-enter it, and 9 times out of 10, it goes. No clue...
>
>	In my case, there's no code involved -- this is all Outlook.
>
>Susan H.
>
>The obvious solution is to adjust your code to stop wrapping the
>address in apostrophes. If, for some reason, that can't be done, change 
>these to brackets like:
>
>   <johndoe at aol.com>
>
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From darrend at nimble.com.au  Wed Nov 29 16:17:18 2006
From: darrend at nimble.com.au (Darren DICK)
Date: Thu, 30 Nov 2006 09:17:18 +1100
Subject: [AccessD] Single and Double Inverted Commas!
In-Reply-To: <20061129111408.35698.qmail@web34304.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <000601c71404$2d985090$631aa53a@DENZILLAP>

Hi Chris

Demo sent off list

I am not too sure the dot controlsource property can be set at runtime (IE
Changed via code with the form 'running') - I am sure someone on the list will
correct me if I have it wrong

See ya
 
Darren
------------------
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-----Original Message-----
From: Chris Enright [mailto:cclenright at yahoo.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, 29 November 2006 10:14 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] Single and Double Inverted Commas!

  I am getting too old and have been away from programming far too long
  I never have understood the use of " and ' completely
  Could someone please correct this for me,
  Me.MonTotDBAdmin.ControlSource =
  and what I want it to equal is
  =DSum("DCAdminEventTime","qryIG_Mon") 
  but with the IG being replaced with strInitials
  My attempt with strInitials="EM" came out as
=DSum('DCAdminEventTime','qryEM_Mon') and wouldn't work
   
  Thanks 
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From cclenright at yahoo.com  Wed Nov 29 16:30:13 2006
From: cclenright at yahoo.com (Chris Enright)
Date: Wed, 29 Nov 2006 14:30:13 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [AccessD] Single and Double Inverted Commas!
Message-ID: <504913.67568.qm@web34311.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

v\:* {behavior:url (#default#vml);}v\:* {	BEHAVIOR: url (#default#vml)}Ah! Thanks Darren, that explains why some simpler attempts are causing problems.
Does that mean I can change them in the Form B from Form A before opening Form B?
 
Chris
 
-------Original Message-------
 
From: Darren DICK
Date: 29/11/2006 22:19:25
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Single and Double Inverted Commas!

 
Hi Chris
 
Demo sent off list
 
I am not too sure the dot controlsource property can be set at runtime (IE
Changed via code with the form 'running') - I am sure someone on the list will
correct me if I have it wrong
 
See ya
 
Darren
------------------
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-----Original Message-----
From: Chris Enright [mailto:cclenright at yahoo.com]
Sent: Wednesday, 29 November 2006 10:14 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] Single and Double Inverted Commas!
 
  I am getting too old and have been away from programming far too long
  I never have understood the use of " and ' completely
  Could someone please correct this for me,
  Me.MonTotDBAdmin.ControlSource =
  and what I want it to equal is
  =DSum("DCAdminEventTime","qryIG_Mon")
  but with the IG being replaced with strInitials
  My attempt with strInitials="EM" came out as
=DSum('DCAdminEventTime','qryEM_Mon') and wouldn't work
 
  Thanks
  Chris
 
 
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From cclenright at yahoo.com  Wed Nov 29 16:36:49 2006
From: cclenright at yahoo.com (Chris Enright)
Date: Wed, 29 Nov 2006 14:36:49 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [AccessD] Single and Double Inverted Commas!
Message-ID: <882726.1924.qm@web34314.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

v\:* {behavior:url (#default#vml);}v\:* {	BEHAVIOR: url (#default#vml)}Hi Darren,
 
Thanks for sending me the demo. Sadly I am still using Access 2K and can't run it. 
 
Chris
-------Original Message-------
 
From: Darren DICK
Date: 29/11/2006 22:19:25
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Single and Double Inverted Commas!

 
Hi Chris
 
Demo sent off list
 
I am not too sure the dot controlsource property can be set at runtime (IE
Changed via code with the form 'running') - I am sure someone on the list will
correct me if I have it wrong
 
See ya
 
Darren
------------------
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-----Original Message-----
From: Chris Enright [mailto:cclenright at yahoo.com]
Sent: Wednesday, 29 November 2006 10:14 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] Single and Double Inverted Commas!
 
  I am getting too old and have been away from programming far too long
  I never have understood the use of " and ' completely
  Could someone please correct this for me,
  Me.MonTotDBAdmin.ControlSource =
  and what I want it to equal is
  =DSum("DCAdminEventTime","qryIG_Mon")
  but with the IG being replaced with strInitials
  My attempt with strInitials="EM" came out as
=DSum('DCAdminEventTime','qryEM_Mon') and wouldn't work
 
  Thanks
  Chris
 
 
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From artful at rogers.com  Wed Nov 29 18:09:50 2006
From: artful at rogers.com (artful at rogers.com)
Date: Wed, 29 Nov 2006 16:09:50 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [AccessD] Email Automation to Outlook problem
Message-ID: <20061130000950.63940.qmail@web88208.mail.re2.yahoo.com>

LOL. I didn't realize that anyone still did use Outlook. Ok, I stand corrected.


----- Original Message ----
From: Gustav Brock <Gustav at cactus.dk>
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Sent: Wednesday, November 29, 2006 12:09:03 PM
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Email Automation to Outlook problem


Hi Susan and Chris

Oh, that's another story - I don't use Outlook - so I cannot help. 
Could it be an automatic Windows Updating issue?

/gustav

From darrend at nimble.com.au  Thu Nov 30 00:30:38 2006
From: darrend at nimble.com.au (Darren DICK)
Date: Thu, 30 Nov 2006 17:30:38 +1100
Subject: [AccessD] Single and Double Inverted Commas!
In-Reply-To: <882726.1924.qm@web34314.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <001601c71449$277ba050$5e04a53a@DENZILLAP>

Howdy

New demo sent

However in relation to changing controlsources from other forms or via code

As far as I know ControlSources (for controls) can't be set other than in design
mode - again the list will let me know if I have it wrong though 

Darren


-----Original Message-----
From: Chris Enright [mailto:cclenright at yahoo.com] 
Sent: Thursday, 30 November 2006 9:37 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Single and Double Inverted Commas!

v\:* {behavior:url (#default#vml);}v\:* {	BEHAVIOR: url (#default#vml)}Hi
Darren,
 
Thanks for sending me the demo. Sadly I am still using Access 2K and can't run
it. 
 
Chris
-------Original Message-------
 
From: Darren DICK
Date: 29/11/2006 22:19:25
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Single and Double Inverted Commas!

 
Hi Chris
 
Demo sent off list
 
I am not too sure the dot controlsource property can be set at runtime (IE
Changed via code with the form 'running') - I am sure someone on the list will
correct me if I have it wrong
 
See ya
 
Darren
------------------
T: 0424 696 433
 
-----Original Message-----
From: Chris Enright [mailto:cclenright at yahoo.com]
Sent: Wednesday, 29 November 2006 10:14 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] Single and Double Inverted Commas!
 
  I am getting too old and have been away from programming far too long
  I never have understood the use of " and ' completely
  Could someone please correct this for me,
  Me.MonTotDBAdmin.ControlSource =
  and what I want it to equal is
  =DSum("DCAdminEventTime","qryIG_Mon")
  but with the IG being replaced with strInitials
  My attempt with strInitials="EM" came out as
=DSum('DCAdminEventTime','qryEM_Mon') and wouldn't work
 
  Thanks
  Chris
 
 
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From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com  Thu Nov 30 05:44:45 2006
From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (JWColby)
Date: Thu, 30 Nov 2006 06:44:45 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Where to place a filter
Message-ID: <004301c71474$efa70210$e1265b05@m6805>

I found an interesting anomaly today.  I was troubleshooting why a query was
two orders of magnitude slower in a query in a new version of a database vs.
the same query in an older version of the database.  To make a long story
short:
 
Two tables, Agency / child
 
Agency has a PKID
Child has a FK for the agency PKID
Child joined to agency on this PK/FK
 
Filter on the FK in child yields a query 3 minutes long
Move the filter to the Agency PKID the time drops to 3 seconds!!!
 
I have to assume that the difference lies in the fact that the PK is a
unique index vs. a non-unique index for a FK.
 
I have to say that I had never thought about this specific subject and just
treated an index as an index, but in the future I will examine carefully
applying a filter on an FK as opposed to joining to the required table and
filtering on the PK.
 
Any thoughts on the subject?
 
John W. Colby
Colby Consulting
www.ColbyConsulting.com
 


From Gustav at cactus.dk  Thu Nov 30 06:15:16 2006
From: Gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Thu, 30 Nov 2006 13:15:16 +0100
Subject: [AccessD] Single and Double Inverted Commas!
Message-ID: <s56ed983.028@cactus.dk>

Hi Chris

Well, still lazy, so why not:

  Me.MonTotDBAdmin.ControlSource = Replace("=DSum('DCAdminEventTime','qry" & strInitials & "_Mon')","'","""")

/gustav


>>> cclenright at yahoo.com 29-11-2006 22:39:36 >>>
v\:* {behavior:url (#default#vml);}v\:* {	BEHAVIOR: url (#default#vml)}Hi Gustav,
 
I love lazy!
 
Problem is though that there are 42 controls that I want to change depending on the "strInitials" picked up when the name of the member of staff is selected to open the form.
What I am looking for is the correct syntax for something like
 
Me.MonTotDBAdmin.ControlSource = "=DSum('DCAdminEventTime','qry"   & strInitials &  "_Mon')"
 
Which I know is completely wrong but I have forgotten how to use those %$*^"?$   "s and 's but would create 
=DSum("DCAdminEventTime","qryEM_Mon") if strInitials="EM"

 
Chris
 
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From: Gustav Brock
Date: 29/11/2006 16:22:02
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com 
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Single and Double Inverted Commas!

 
Hi Chris
 
How about a lazy solution:
 
  strControlSource = "=DSum('DCAdminEventTime','qryEM_Mon')"
  Me.MonTotDBAdmin.ControlSource = Replace(strControlSource,"'","""")
 
/gustav
 
 
>>> cclenright at yahoo.com 29-11-2006 12:14:08 >>>
  I am getting too old and have been away from programming far too long
  I never have understood the use of " and ' completely
  Could someone please correct this for me,
  Me.MonTotDBAdmin.ControlSource =
  and what I want it to equal is
  =DSum("DCAdminEventTime","qryIG_Mon")
  but with the IG being replaced with strInitials
  My attempt with strInitials="EM" came out as =DSum('DCAdminEventTime','qryEM_Mon') and wouldn't work
 
  Thanks
  Chris



From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com  Thu Nov 30 06:50:57 2006
From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (JWColby)
Date: Thu, 30 Nov 2006 07:50:57 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Where to place a filter
In-Reply-To: <004301c71474$efa70210$e1265b05@m6805>
Message-ID: <004d01c7147e$2ede8bc0$e1265b05@m6805>

There is more to the story, which leaves me completely confused.  

In the process of fixing the problem, I had dropped the AgencyID FK from the
tblChild table and pulled in the AgencyID PK from tblAgency, and then
applied the filter to the AgencyID PK.  To do further testing I then pulled
in the FK from the tblChild table again and moved the filter back to that FK
field and the speed was still 3 seconds!

To summarize, I had an extremely slow query.  I discovered that if I simply
pulled the PK from the tblAgency and applied the filter to that (dropping
the FK AgencyID from the tblChild out of the query in the process) the query
went from 3 minutes down to 3 seconds.  However when I pulled the AgencyID
FK back out of the tblChild and reapplied the filter to the FK, the query
time remained at 3 seconds.

Hmmmm.....

It certainly sounds like something about the query was saved in the
background, and whatever that something was it was corrupted or something.
Changing the query by pulling the PK and applying the filter to that,
dropping the FK in the process, perhaps caused something in the background
to be corrected.

I dunno.  I have never seen anything like this before.  

Sadly it means I cannot necessarily look for speedups in my existing
database by moving a filter from an FK to the corresponding PK.


John W. Colby
Colby Consulting
www.ColbyConsulting.com

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[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of JWColby
Sent: Thursday, November 30, 2006 6:45 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] Where to place a filter

I found an interesting anomaly today.  I was troubleshooting why a query was
two orders of magnitude slower in a query in a new version of a database vs.
the same query in an older version of the database.  To make a long story
short:
 
Two tables, Agency / child
 
Agency has a PKID
Child has a FK for the agency PKID
Child joined to agency on this PK/FK
 
Filter on the FK in child yields a query 3 minutes long Move the filter to
the Agency PKID the time drops to 3 seconds!!!
 
I have to assume that the difference lies in the fact that the PK is a
unique index vs. a non-unique index for a FK.
 
I have to say that I had never thought about this specific subject and just
treated an index as an index, but in the future I will examine carefully
applying a filter on an FK as opposed to joining to the required table and
filtering on the PK.
 
Any thoughts on the subject?
 
John W. Colby
Colby Consulting
www.ColbyConsulting.com
 
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From Kwilliamson at RTKL.com  Thu Nov 30 08:18:58 2006
From: Kwilliamson at RTKL.com (Keith Williamson)
Date: Thu, 30 Nov 2006 09:18:58 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] CSV export
In-Reply-To: <004901c713cf$3de05ae0$6401a8c0@HAL9005>
Message-ID: <B61870319AC0CC42A143BA69E5798D08033F42@fenwick.rtkl.rtkl.net>

Thanks, Rocky.

Regards,

Keith E. Williamson | Assist. Controller| kwilliamson at rtkl.com

RTKL Associates Inc. | 901 South Bond Street | Baltimore, Maryland
21231-3305

410-537-6098 direct | 410-276-2136 fax | www.rtkl.com


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Beach Access
Software
Sent: Wednesday, November 29, 2006 10:59 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: Re: [AccessD] CSV export

Keith:

I wouldn't export the report.  I'd probably create a temp table to store
the
values and export to an Excel spreadsheet.  You could actually export
the
formulas this way if you wanted to.

Rocky


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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Keith
Williamson
Sent: Wednesday, November 29, 2006 6:18 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: [AccessD] CSV export

Guys, I am probably showing my rustiness now.....   :-).........but how
do I do a VBA export of a report.  I have a report that I need to export
in CSV format, for uploading into another program.  I can't really just
use the query behind the report for the "TransferText" command....as the
report actually calculates some ledger codes, and summaries.  I would
hate to do an excel export, and then convert out of excel.  

 

Any help would be appreciated.

 

By the way........I am sure that I will be much more active on this side
of the lists (rather than OT), as my new job is getting me back into
some coding (at least for the short term).  I also don't have time for
OT at work (just the odd, untimely responses, from home.)

 

:-)

 

Thanks again,

 

Keith E. Williamson | Assist. Controller| kwilliamson at rtkl.com

RTKL Associates Inc. | 901 South Bond Street | Baltimore, Maryland
21231-3305

410-537-6098 direct | 410-276-2136 fax | www.rtkl.com
<http://www.rtkl.com/> 

 

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From bchacc at san.rr.com  Thu Nov 30 08:55:00 2006
From: bchacc at san.rr.com (Beach Access Software)
Date: Thu, 30 Nov 2006 06:55:00 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] CSV export
In-Reply-To: <B61870319AC0CC42A143BA69E5798D08033F42@fenwick.rtkl.rtkl.net>
Message-ID: <001b01c7148f$82bb2490$6401a8c0@HAL9005>

Keith:

I've got a bunch of automation code exporting stuff to Excel if you want a
sample. It's not elegant but it works.

I've also got code where I had to do a bunch of formatting and other things
in a spreadsheet I was creating from Access.  I used the macro recorder in
Excel and just copied out the code it generated into my module.  I can send
you some snips of that as well if you need to make a full on spreadsheet
instead of just a CSV file that will open in Excel.

Best,

Rocky


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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Keith Williamson
Sent: Thursday, November 30, 2006 6:19 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] CSV export

Thanks, Rocky.

Regards,

Keith E. Williamson | Assist. Controller| kwilliamson at rtkl.com

RTKL Associates Inc. | 901 South Bond Street | Baltimore, Maryland
21231-3305

410-537-6098 direct | 410-276-2136 fax | www.rtkl.com


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Beach Access
Software
Sent: Wednesday, November 29, 2006 10:59 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: Re: [AccessD] CSV export

Keith:

I wouldn't export the report.  I'd probably create a temp table to store
the
values and export to an Excel spreadsheet.  You could actually export
the
formulas this way if you wanted to.

Rocky


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Keith
Williamson
Sent: Wednesday, November 29, 2006 6:18 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: [AccessD] CSV export

Guys, I am probably showing my rustiness now.....   :-).........but how
do I do a VBA export of a report.  I have a report that I need to export
in CSV format, for uploading into another program.  I can't really just
use the query behind the report for the "TransferText" command....as the
report actually calculates some ledger codes, and summaries.  I would
hate to do an excel export, and then convert out of excel.  

 

Any help would be appreciated.

 

By the way........I am sure that I will be much more active on this side
of the lists (rather than OT), as my new job is getting me back into
some coding (at least for the short term).  I also don't have time for
OT at work (just the odd, untimely responses, from home.)

 

:-)

 

Thanks again,

 

Keith E. Williamson | Assist. Controller| kwilliamson at rtkl.com

RTKL Associates Inc. | 901 South Bond Street | Baltimore, Maryland
21231-3305

410-537-6098 direct | 410-276-2136 fax | www.rtkl.com
<http://www.rtkl.com/> 

 

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From Kwilliamson at RTKL.com  Thu Nov 30 09:08:07 2006
From: Kwilliamson at RTKL.com (Keith Williamson)
Date: Thu, 30 Nov 2006 10:08:07 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Still on the Reporting
Message-ID: <B61870319AC0CC42A143BA69E5798D08033FBA@fenwick.rtkl.rtkl.net>

Man...I forgot what a pain in the A@& getting reports out of Access is.

 

I asked earlier how to export a report into csv format....doesn't seem
that is likely.  I need to ultimately generate a csv format file, to
import into our sql-based application.  This is for journal entries.  I
have written a couple of reports to generate journal
entries....utilizing the different levels of grouping and summing.  A
good bit of the report is taking data, at different groupings, and
calculating percentages to apply to user-entered data (for allocating
overhead to different entities and account numbers.)  Since csv is out,
I am resigned to bring the data into excel...and then export to csv
format.

 

The problem is that, oddly, when I am looking at the data on the report
(on screen) and then hit the "Analyze It with Excel" button....the
columns come over in different order than the report.  Plus, one of the
fields is a text field = "00".  It keeps coming into Excel as = 0
(general format.)  I can't think of a way to store the values, and
export values and formulas to Excel...as Rocky suggested.  

 

Any help is greatly appreciated.

 

Regards,

 

Keith E. Williamson | Assist. Controller| kwilliamson at rtkl.com

RTKL Associates Inc. | 901 South Bond Street | Baltimore, Maryland
21231-3305

410-537-6098 direct | 410-276-2136 fax | www.rtkl.com
<http://www.rtkl.com/> 

 



From bchacc at san.rr.com  Thu Nov 30 09:20:56 2006
From: bchacc at san.rr.com (Beach Access Software)
Date: Thu, 30 Nov 2006 07:20:56 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] Still on the Reporting
In-Reply-To: <B61870319AC0CC42A143BA69E5798D08033FBA@fenwick.rtkl.rtkl.net>
Message-ID: <002c01c71493$2240f960$6401a8c0@HAL9005>

Keith:

I've also got a module that exports to a comma delimited, CSV file with
quotes around the text fields.  Can send that off-line if it would help.

Why is CSV out of the running now?

Rocky


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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Keith Williamson
Sent: Thursday, November 30, 2006 7:08 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: [AccessD] Still on the Reporting

Man...I forgot what a pain in the A@& getting reports out of Access is.

 

I asked earlier how to export a report into csv format....doesn't seem
that is likely.  I need to ultimately generate a csv format file, to
import into our sql-based application.  This is for journal entries.  I
have written a couple of reports to generate journal
entries....utilizing the different levels of grouping and summing.  A
good bit of the report is taking data, at different groupings, and
calculating percentages to apply to user-entered data (for allocating
overhead to different entities and account numbers.)  Since csv is out,
I am resigned to bring the data into excel...and then export to csv
format.

 

The problem is that, oddly, when I am looking at the data on the report
(on screen) and then hit the "Analyze It with Excel" button....the
columns come over in different order than the report.  Plus, one of the
fields is a text field = "00".  It keeps coming into Excel as = 0
(general format.)  I can't think of a way to store the values, and
export values and formulas to Excel...as Rocky suggested.  

 

Any help is greatly appreciated.

 

Regards,

 

Keith E. Williamson | Assist. Controller| kwilliamson at rtkl.com

RTKL Associates Inc. | 901 South Bond Street | Baltimore, Maryland
21231-3305

410-537-6098 direct | 410-276-2136 fax | www.rtkl.com
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From wdhindman at dejpolsystems.com  Thu Nov 30 09:23:40 2006
From: wdhindman at dejpolsystems.com (William Hindman)
Date: Thu, 30 Nov 2006 10:23:40 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Where to place a filter
References: <004d01c7147e$2ede8bc0$e1265b05@m6805>
Message-ID: <003301c71493$84061e50$3e3de844@50NM721>

...or not ...remember that Access uses the Rushmore query optimization 
algorithms which build adhoc indices based on the actual data in addition to 
the indices you've spec'd ...it could be that when you changed the index the 
first time that you forced a new query optimization that gave a much better 
result ...and that when you redid the query, Access retained the optimized 
adhoc indices because the change was actually immaterial ...in other words 
you had added a lot of data since you first built the query and when you 
forced it to review its optimization it did so with the additional data 
considered ...and when you reverted, the optimization held because the speed 
increase was based on the data rather than the index.

...or something like that :)

...so the real answer is that when you've added a large amount of data into 
an Access database, you may find that your original queries work much faster 
if you force them to reoptimize.

William Hindman

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From: "JWColby" <jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com>
To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'" 
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Thursday, November 30, 2006 7:50 AM
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Where to place a filter


> There is more to the story, which leaves me completely confused.
>
> In the process of fixing the problem, I had dropped the AgencyID FK from 
> the
> tblChild table and pulled in the AgencyID PK from tblAgency, and then
> applied the filter to the AgencyID PK.  To do further testing I then 
> pulled
> in the FK from the tblChild table again and moved the filter back to that 
> FK
> field and the speed was still 3 seconds!
>
> To summarize, I had an extremely slow query.  I discovered that if I 
> simply
> pulled the PK from the tblAgency and applied the filter to that (dropping
> the FK AgencyID from the tblChild out of the query in the process) the 
> query
> went from 3 minutes down to 3 seconds.  However when I pulled the AgencyID
> FK back out of the tblChild and reapplied the filter to the FK, the query
> time remained at 3 seconds.
>
> Hmmmm.....
>
> It certainly sounds like something about the query was saved in the
> background, and whatever that something was it was corrupted or something.
> Changing the query by pulling the PK and applying the filter to that,
> dropping the FK in the process, perhaps caused something in the background
> to be corrected.
>
> I dunno.  I have never seen anything like this before.
>
> Sadly it means I cannot necessarily look for speedups in my existing
> database by moving a filter from an FK to the corresponding PK.
>
>
> John W. Colby
> Colby Consulting
> www.ColbyConsulting.com
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of JWColby
> Sent: Thursday, November 30, 2006 6:45 AM
> To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
> Subject: [AccessD] Where to place a filter
>
> I found an interesting anomaly today.  I was troubleshooting why a query 
> was
> two orders of magnitude slower in a query in a new version of a database 
> vs.
> the same query in an older version of the database.  To make a long story
> short:
>
> Two tables, Agency / child
>
> Agency has a PKID
> Child has a FK for the agency PKID
> Child joined to agency on this PK/FK
>
> Filter on the FK in child yields a query 3 minutes long Move the filter to
> the Agency PKID the time drops to 3 seconds!!!
>
> I have to assume that the difference lies in the fact that the PK is a
> unique index vs. a non-unique index for a FK.
>
> I have to say that I had never thought about this specific subject and 
> just
> treated an index as an index, but in the future I will examine carefully
> applying a filter on an FK as opposed to joining to the required table and
> filtering on the PK.
>
> Any thoughts on the subject?
>
> John W. Colby
> Colby Consulting
> www.ColbyConsulting.com
>
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From Kwilliamson at RTKL.com  Thu Nov 30 09:38:48 2006
From: Kwilliamson at RTKL.com (Keith Williamson)
Date: Thu, 30 Nov 2006 10:38:48 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Still on the Reporting
In-Reply-To: <002c01c71493$2240f960$6401a8c0@HAL9005>
Message-ID: <B61870319AC0CC42A143BA69E5798D08033FDE@fenwick.rtkl.rtkl.net>

Thanks, Rocky.  

Well...it is only out of the running...because I couldn't find any
reference online for doing this....that wasn't A) bought; and B)
problematic.  If you've got something otherwise.....I'd LOVE to put it
back into the running.

:)

Thanks,

Keith E. Williamson | Assist. Controller| kwilliamson at rtkl.com

RTKL Associates Inc. | 901 South Bond Street | Baltimore, Maryland
21231-3305

410-537-6098 direct | 410-276-2136 fax | www.rtkl.com


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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Beach Access
Software
Sent: Thursday, November 30, 2006 10:21 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Still on the Reporting

Keith:

I've also got a module that exports to a comma delimited, CSV file with
quotes around the text fields.  Can send that off-line if it would help.

Why is CSV out of the running now?

Rocky


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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Keith
Williamson
Sent: Thursday, November 30, 2006 7:08 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: [AccessD] Still on the Reporting

Man...I forgot what a pain in the A@& getting reports out of Access is.

 

I asked earlier how to export a report into csv format....doesn't seem
that is likely.  I need to ultimately generate a csv format file, to
import into our sql-based application.  This is for journal entries.  I
have written a couple of reports to generate journal
entries....utilizing the different levels of grouping and summing.  A
good bit of the report is taking data, at different groupings, and
calculating percentages to apply to user-entered data (for allocating
overhead to different entities and account numbers.)  Since csv is out,
I am resigned to bring the data into excel...and then export to csv
format.

 

The problem is that, oddly, when I am looking at the data on the report
(on screen) and then hit the "Analyze It with Excel" button....the
columns come over in different order than the report.  Plus, one of the
fields is a text field = "00".  It keeps coming into Excel as = 0
(general format.)  I can't think of a way to store the values, and
export values and formulas to Excel...as Rocky suggested.  

 

Any help is greatly appreciated.

 

Regards,

 

Keith E. Williamson | Assist. Controller| kwilliamson at rtkl.com

RTKL Associates Inc. | 901 South Bond Street | Baltimore, Maryland
21231-3305

410-537-6098 direct | 410-276-2136 fax | www.rtkl.com
<http://www.rtkl.com/> 

 

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From wdhindman at dejpolsystems.com  Thu Nov 30 09:51:25 2006
From: wdhindman at dejpolsystems.com (William Hindman)
Date: Thu, 30 Nov 2006 10:51:25 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Still on the Reporting
References: <B61870319AC0CC42A143BA69E5798D08033FBA@fenwick.rtkl.rtkl.net>
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Keith

...I'd backup a bit and seriously consider redesigning the report to do all 
its calcs in the source query or subqueries ...that way you can either 
export the query results directly to csv or create a table to do the export 
from ...either way, you avoid having to use external software to derive the 
data you want, get much better data reliability, and probably spend a heck 
of a lot less time doing it.

William Hindman

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Keith Williamson" <Kwilliamson at rtkl.com>
To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving" 
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Thursday, November 30, 2006 10:08 AM
Subject: [AccessD] Still on the Reporting


> Man...I forgot what a pain in the A@& getting reports out of Access is.
>
>
>
> I asked earlier how to export a report into csv format....doesn't seem
> that is likely.  I need to ultimately generate a csv format file, to
> import into our sql-based application.  This is for journal entries.  I
> have written a couple of reports to generate journal
> entries....utilizing the different levels of grouping and summing.  A
> good bit of the report is taking data, at different groupings, and
> calculating percentages to apply to user-entered data (for allocating
> overhead to different entities and account numbers.)  Since csv is out,
> I am resigned to bring the data into excel...and then export to csv
> format.
>
>
>
> The problem is that, oddly, when I am looking at the data on the report
> (on screen) and then hit the "Analyze It with Excel" button....the
> columns come over in different order than the report.  Plus, one of the
> fields is a text field = "00".  It keeps coming into Excel as = 0
> (general format.)  I can't think of a way to store the values, and
> export values and formulas to Excel...as Rocky suggested.
>
>
>
> Any help is greatly appreciated.
>
>
>
> Regards,
>
>
>
> Keith E. Williamson | Assist. Controller| kwilliamson at rtkl.com
>
> RTKL Associates Inc. | 901 South Bond Street | Baltimore, Maryland
> 21231-3305
>
> 410-537-6098 direct | 410-276-2136 fax | www.rtkl.com
> <http://www.rtkl.com/>
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From bchacc at san.rr.com  Thu Nov 30 09:55:17 2006
From: bchacc at san.rr.com (Beach Access Software)
Date: Thu, 30 Nov 2006 07:55:17 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] Still on the Reporting
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Message-ID: <004d01c71497$ee829160$6401a8c0@HAL9005>

Keith:

Here's a simple, brute force method of creating a CSV file with quotes
around the strings.  But if you need to do the formulas, you'll need to make
a spreadsheet.  I'll send you a doc with that method in it off line.

Rocky

Private Sub cmdExport_Click()
    
strSQL = "SELECT tblEmployer.fldEmployerLBFCode, tblEmployee.fldEmployeeSSN,
" _
    & " [fldWorkDetailMonth] & [fldWorkDetailYear] AS [Month] , " _
    & "[fldEmployeeLastName] & ',' & [fldEmployeeFirstName] AS Name, " _
    & "Sum(tblWorkDetail.fldWorkDetailHours) AS SumOffldWorkDetailHours, " _
    & "Sum(tblWorkDetail.fldWorkDetailTotal) AS SumOffldWorkDetailTotal FROM
" _
    & "tblEmployer RIGHT JOIN (tblPlan INNER JOIN (tblEmployee INNER JOIN "
_
    & "tblWorkDetail ON tblEmployee.fldEmployeeID =
tblWorkDetail.fldEmployeeID) ON " _
    & "tblPlan.fldPlanID = tblWorkDetail.fldPlanID) ON
tblEmployer.fldEmployerID = " _
    & "tblWorkDetail.fldEmployerID WHERE (((tblPlan.fldPlanName) = '401a')
And " _
    & "((tblWorkDetail.fldWorkDetailEntryMonth) = " _
    & Forms!frm401aMonthlyReport!cboEntryMonth.Column(0) & ") And " _
    & "((tblWorkDetail.fldWorkDetailEntryYear) = " _
    & Forms!frm401aMonthlyReport!cboEntryYear.Column(0) & ")) GROUP BY " _
    & "tblEmployer.fldEmployerLBFCode, tblEmployee.fldEmployeeSSN, " _
    & "[fldWorkDetailMonth] & [fldWorkDetailYear], " _
    & "[fldEmployeeLastName] & ',' & [fldEmployeeFirstName] " _
    & "ORDER BY tblEmployee.fldEmployeeSSN;"
    
Set db = CurrentDb
Set rs = db.OpenRecordset(strSQL)

If rs.BOF = True And rs.EOF = True Then
    MsgBox "No Records to Export.", vbExclamation
    Exit Sub
End If

txtExportFile = db.Name

Do While Right(txtExportFile, 1) <> "\"
    txtExportFile = Left(txtExportFile, Len(txtExportFile) - 1)
Loop
txtExportFile = txtExportFile & "401 Text File For " &
Me.cboEntryMonth.Column(1) & " " & Me.cboEntryYear.Column(0) & ".txt"

On Error Resume Next
Kill txtExportFile
On Error GoTo 0

Open txtExportFile For Output As #1

Do While Not rs.EOF
    Print #1, """" & Right("00000" & Trim(str(Nz(rs!fldEmployerLBFCode))),
5) _
        & """" & "," & """" & Right("000000000" &
Trim(str(rs!fldEmployeeSSN)), 9) _
        & """" & "," & """" & rs!Name & """" _
        & "," & """" & AlphaMonthYear(rs!Month) & """" & "," _
        & rs![SumOffldWorkDetailHours] & "," & rs![SumOffldWorkDetailTotal]
    rs.MoveNext
Loop

Close #1

MsgBox "Export Done.", vbExclamation

End Sub

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Keith Williamson
Sent: Thursday, November 30, 2006 7:39 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Still on the Reporting

Thanks, Rocky.  

Well...it is only out of the running...because I couldn't find any
reference online for doing this....that wasn't A) bought; and B)
problematic.  If you've got something otherwise.....I'd LOVE to put it
back into the running.

:)

Thanks,

Keith E. Williamson | Assist. Controller| kwilliamson at rtkl.com

RTKL Associates Inc. | 901 South Bond Street | Baltimore, Maryland
21231-3305

410-537-6098 direct | 410-276-2136 fax | www.rtkl.com


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Beach Access
Software
Sent: Thursday, November 30, 2006 10:21 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Still on the Reporting

Keith:

I've also got a module that exports to a comma delimited, CSV file with
quotes around the text fields.  Can send that off-line if it would help.

Why is CSV out of the running now?

Rocky


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Keith
Williamson
Sent: Thursday, November 30, 2006 7:08 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: [AccessD] Still on the Reporting

Man...I forgot what a pain in the A@& getting reports out of Access is.

 

I asked earlier how to export a report into csv format....doesn't seem
that is likely.  I need to ultimately generate a csv format file, to
import into our sql-based application.  This is for journal entries.  I
have written a couple of reports to generate journal
entries....utilizing the different levels of grouping and summing.  A
good bit of the report is taking data, at different groupings, and
calculating percentages to apply to user-entered data (for allocating
overhead to different entities and account numbers.)  Since csv is out,
I am resigned to bring the data into excel...and then export to csv
format.

 

The problem is that, oddly, when I am looking at the data on the report
(on screen) and then hit the "Analyze It with Excel" button....the
columns come over in different order than the report.  Plus, one of the
fields is a text field = "00".  It keeps coming into Excel as = 0
(general format.)  I can't think of a way to store the values, and
export values and formulas to Excel...as Rocky suggested.  

 

Any help is greatly appreciated.

 

Regards,

 

Keith E. Williamson | Assist. Controller| kwilliamson at rtkl.com

RTKL Associates Inc. | 901 South Bond Street | Baltimore, Maryland
21231-3305

410-537-6098 direct | 410-276-2136 fax | www.rtkl.com
<http://www.rtkl.com/> 

 

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From jimdettman at verizon.net  Thu Nov 30 10:08:45 2006
From: jimdettman at verizon.net (Jim Dettman)
Date: Thu, 30 Nov 2006 11:08:45 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Where to place a filter
In-Reply-To: <004301c71474$efa70210$e1265b05@m6805>
Message-ID: <011d01c71499$d14ec260$8abea8c0@XPS>

John,

<<Any thoughts on the subject?>>

A.  JET has more options for query optimizations on a unique index.

B.  When filtering is done, it's a toss up if you should filter on the one
or the many side.  Table sizes can have a big impact, so best practice is to
test both and use the one that is the fastest.

Jim.

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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of JWColby
Sent: Thursday, November 30, 2006 6:45 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] Where to place a filter

I found an interesting anomaly today.  I was troubleshooting why a query was
two orders of magnitude slower in a query in a new version of a database vs.
the same query in an older version of the database.  To make a long story
short:
 
Two tables, Agency / child
 
Agency has a PKID
Child has a FK for the agency PKID
Child joined to agency on this PK/FK
 
Filter on the FK in child yields a query 3 minutes long
Move the filter to the Agency PKID the time drops to 3 seconds!!!
 
I have to assume that the difference lies in the fact that the PK is a
unique index vs. a non-unique index for a FK.
 
I have to say that I had never thought about this specific subject and just
treated an index as an index, but in the future I will examine carefully
applying a filter on an FK as opposed to joining to the required table and
filtering on the PK.
 
Any thoughts on the subject?
 
John W. Colby
Colby Consulting
www.ColbyConsulting.com
 
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From dgibso at uark.edu  Thu Nov 30 10:16:14 2006
From: dgibso at uark.edu (David A Gibson)
Date: Thu, 30 Nov 2006 10:16:14 -0600
Subject: [AccessD] Still on the Reporting
In-Reply-To: <004d01c71497$ee829160$6401a8c0@HAL9005>
References: <B61870319AC0CC42A143BA69E5798D08033FDE@fenwick.rtkl.rtkl.net>
	<004d01c71497$ee829160$6401a8c0@HAL9005>
Message-ID: <7.0.1.0.0.20061130100558.01e40a38@uark.edu>

Been following this topic with interest.  I do an XLS export from a 
Form command button onClick event.

DoCmd.TransferSpreadsheet acExport, acSpreadsheetTypeExcel3, 
"qry1234", "Drive:\Dir\subDir\Filename" & ".xls", yes, ""

It will overwrite the file each time but you can always append the 
date by using

Filename_" & Format(Date, "mmddyy") & ".xls"

Works for me.

David G.


At 09:55 AM 11/30/2006, you wrote:
>Keith:
>
>Here's a simple, brute force method of creating a CSV file with quotes
>around the strings.  But if you need to do the formulas, you'll need to make
>a spreadsheet.  I'll send you a doc with that method in it off line.
>
>Rocky
>
>Private Sub cmdExport_Click()
>
>strSQL = "SELECT tblEmployer.fldEmployerLBFCode, tblEmployee.fldEmployeeSSN,
>" _
>     & " [fldWorkDetailMonth] & [fldWorkDetailYear] AS [Month] , " _
>     & "[fldEmployeeLastName] & ',' & [fldEmployeeFirstName] AS Name, " _
>     & "Sum(tblWorkDetail.fldWorkDetailHours) AS SumOffldWorkDetailHours, " _
>     & "Sum(tblWorkDetail.fldWorkDetailTotal) AS SumOffldWorkDetailTotal FROM
>" _
>     & "tblEmployer RIGHT JOIN (tblPlan INNER JOIN (tblEmployee INNER JOIN "
>_
>     & "tblWorkDetail ON tblEmployee.fldEmployeeID =
>tblWorkDetail.fldEmployeeID) ON " _
>     & "tblPlan.fldPlanID = tblWorkDetail.fldPlanID) ON
>tblEmployer.fldEmployerID = " _
>     & "tblWorkDetail.fldEmployerID WHERE (((tblPlan.fldPlanName) = '401a')
>And " _
>     & "((tblWorkDetail.fldWorkDetailEntryMonth) = " _
>     & Forms!frm401aMonthlyReport!cboEntryMonth.Column(0) & ") And " _
>     & "((tblWorkDetail.fldWorkDetailEntryYear) = " _
>     & Forms!frm401aMonthlyReport!cboEntryYear.Column(0) & ")) GROUP BY " _
>     & "tblEmployer.fldEmployerLBFCode, tblEmployee.fldEmployeeSSN, " _
>     & "[fldWorkDetailMonth] & [fldWorkDetailYear], " _
>     & "[fldEmployeeLastName] & ',' & [fldEmployeeFirstName] " _
>     & "ORDER BY tblEmployee.fldEmployeeSSN;"
>
>Set db = CurrentDb
>Set rs = db.OpenRecordset(strSQL)
>
>If rs.BOF = True And rs.EOF = True Then
>     MsgBox "No Records to Export.", vbExclamation
>     Exit Sub
>End If
>
>txtExportFile = db.Name
>
>Do While Right(txtExportFile, 1) <> "\"
>     txtExportFile = Left(txtExportFile, Len(txtExportFile) - 1)
>Loop
>txtExportFile = txtExportFile & "401 Text File For " &
>Me.cboEntryMonth.Column(1) & " " & Me.cboEntryYear.Column(0) & ".txt"
>
>On Error Resume Next
>Kill txtExportFile
>On Error GoTo 0
>
>Open txtExportFile For Output As #1
>
>Do While Not rs.EOF
>     Print #1, """" & Right("00000" & Trim(str(Nz(rs!fldEmployerLBFCode))),
>5) _
>         & """" & "," & """" & Right("000000000" &
>Trim(str(rs!fldEmployeeSSN)), 9) _
>         & """" & "," & """" & rs!Name & """" _
>         & "," & """" & AlphaMonthYear(rs!Month) & """" & "," _
>         & rs![SumOffldWorkDetailHours] & "," & rs![SumOffldWorkDetailTotal]
>     rs.MoveNext
>Loop
>
>Close #1
>
>MsgBox "Export Done.", vbExclamation
>
>End Sub
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Keith Williamson
>Sent: Thursday, November 30, 2006 7:39 AM
>To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
>Subject: Re: [AccessD] Still on the Reporting
>
>Thanks, Rocky.
>
>Well...it is only out of the running...because I couldn't find any
>reference online for doing this....that wasn't A) bought; and B)
>problematic.  If you've got something otherwise.....I'd LOVE to put it
>back into the running.
>
>:)
>
>Thanks,
>
>Keith E. Williamson | Assist. Controller| kwilliamson at rtkl.com
>
>RTKL Associates Inc. | 901 South Bond Street | Baltimore, Maryland
>21231-3305
>
>410-537-6098 direct | 410-276-2136 fax | www.rtkl.com
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Beach Access
>Software
>Sent: Thursday, November 30, 2006 10:21 AM
>To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
>Subject: Re: [AccessD] Still on the Reporting
>
>Keith:
>
>I've also got a module that exports to a comma delimited, CSV file with
>quotes around the text fields.  Can send that off-line if it would help.
>
>Why is CSV out of the running now?
>
>Rocky
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Keith
>Williamson
>Sent: Thursday, November 30, 2006 7:08 AM
>To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
>Subject: [AccessD] Still on the Reporting
>
>Man...I forgot what a pain in the A@& getting reports out of Access is.
>
>
>
>I asked earlier how to export a report into csv format....doesn't seem
>that is likely.  I need to ultimately generate a csv format file, to
>import into our sql-based application.  This is for journal entries.  I
>have written a couple of reports to generate journal
>entries....utilizing the different levels of grouping and summing.  A
>good bit of the report is taking data, at different groupings, and
>calculating percentages to apply to user-entered data (for allocating
>overhead to different entities and account numbers.)  Since csv is out,
>I am resigned to bring the data into excel...and then export to csv
>format.
>
>
>
>The problem is that, oddly, when I am looking at the data on the report
>(on screen) and then hit the "Analyze It with Excel" button....the
>columns come over in different order than the report.  Plus, one of the
>fields is a text field = "00".  It keeps coming into Excel as = 0
>(general format.)  I can't think of a way to store the values, and
>export values and formulas to Excel...as Rocky suggested.
>
>
>
>Any help is greatly appreciated.
>
>
>
>Regards,
>
>
>
>Keith E. Williamson | Assist. Controller| kwilliamson at rtkl.com
>
>RTKL Associates Inc. | 901 South Bond Street | Baltimore, Maryland
>21231-3305
>
>410-537-6098 direct | 410-276-2136 fax | www.rtkl.com
><http://www.rtkl.com/>
>
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From Jim.Hale at FleetPride.com  Thu Nov 30 10:41:19 2006
From: Jim.Hale at FleetPride.com (Hale, Jim)
Date: Thu, 30 Nov 2006 10:41:19 -0600
Subject: [AccessD] Still on the Reporting
Message-ID: <6A6AA9DF57E4F046BDA1E273BDDB67727DE132@corp-es01.fleetpride.com>

I have automated a number of JEs including allocations. Generally I create
the queries in Access and export the results directly to an Excel template.
Usually I do all the calculations in Access so that Excel is used simply as
a platform to upload the JE. I have a sheet in Excel that prepares the JE
(makes sure it balances, etc.) and code which generates a csv file from this
worksheet, a bat and cmd file and uploads the data to the AS400. If the
calculations are too complicated  using queries I still send the
intermediate data (usually the result of group queries) to Excel and compute
the allocations and then upload the result. I can send you the Excel sheet
with the code if you are interested.

Regards,
Jim Hale

-----Original Message-----
From: Keith Williamson [mailto:Kwilliamson at rtkl.com]
Sent: Thursday, November 30, 2006 9:08 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: [AccessD] Still on the Reporting


Man...I forgot what a pain in the A@& getting reports out of Access is.

 

I asked earlier how to export a report into csv format....doesn't seem
that is likely.  I need to ultimately generate a csv format file, to
import into our sql-based application.  This is for journal entries.  I
have written a couple of reports to generate journal
entries....utilizing the different levels of grouping and summing.  A
good bit of the report is taking data, at different groupings, and
calculating percentages to apply to user-entered data (for allocating
overhead to different entities and account numbers.)  Since csv is out,
I am resigned to bring the data into excel...and then export to csv
format.

 

The problem is that, oddly, when I am looking at the data on the report
(on screen) and then hit the "Analyze It with Excel" button....the
columns come over in different order than the report.  Plus, one of the
fields is a text field = "00".  It keeps coming into Excel as = 0
(general format.)  I can't think of a way to store the values, and
export values and formulas to Excel...as Rocky suggested.  

 

Any help is greatly appreciated.

 

Regards,

 

Keith E. Williamson | Assist. Controller| kwilliamson at rtkl.com

RTKL Associates Inc. | 901 South Bond Street | Baltimore, Maryland
21231-3305

410-537-6098 direct | 410-276-2136 fax | www.rtkl.com
<http://www.rtkl.com/> 

 

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From Jim.Hale at FleetPride.com  Thu Nov 30 11:00:35 2006
From: Jim.Hale at FleetPride.com (Hale, Jim)
Date: Thu, 30 Nov 2006 11:00:35 -0600
Subject: [AccessD] Still on the Reporting
Message-ID: <6A6AA9DF57E4F046BDA1E273BDDB67727DE133@corp-es01.fleetpride.com>

BTW allocations are another great use of non cartesian joins. First create a
groupby query which generates a total (one field one record). Create a query
with the detail records which add to the total. Place the two queries in the
design grid without any join. The result set will have the total as a field
in every record so it is a simple matter to divide the detail by the total
to generate a percentage.

As I think about it another reason I dump the data to Excel is because
allocations inevitably don't balance (usually by pennies) due to rounding.
It is a simple matter in Excel to create a formula to handle the rounding.

Jim Hale

-----Original Message-----
From: Keith Williamson [mailto:Kwilliamson at rtkl.com]
Sent: Thursday, November 30, 2006 9:08 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: [AccessD] Still on the Reporting


Man...I forgot what a pain in the A@& getting reports out of Access is.

 

I asked earlier how to export a report into csv format....doesn't seem
that is likely.  I need to ultimately generate a csv format file, to
import into our sql-based application.  This is for journal entries.  I
have written a couple of reports to generate journal
entries....utilizing the different levels of grouping and summing.  A
good bit of the report is taking data, at different groupings, and
calculating percentages to apply to user-entered data (for allocating
overhead to different entities and account numbers.)  Since csv is out,
I am resigned to bring the data into excel...and then export to csv
format.

 

The problem is that, oddly, when I am looking at the data on the report
(on screen) and then hit the "Analyze It with Excel" button....the
columns come over in different order than the report.  Plus, one of the
fields is a text field = "00".  It keeps coming into Excel as = 0
(general format.)  I can't think of a way to store the values, and
export values and formulas to Excel...as Rocky suggested.  

 

Any help is greatly appreciated.

 

Regards,

 

Keith E. Williamson | Assist. Controller| kwilliamson at rtkl.com


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From Gustav at cactus.dk  Thu Nov 30 11:08:52 2006
From: Gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Thu, 30 Nov 2006 18:08:52 +0100
Subject: [AccessD] Still on the Reporting
Message-ID: <s56f1e5b.038@cactus.dk>

Hi Keith

I think you need to rethink this. Creating reports to export to Excel to export to csv .. doesn't make sense.

If you can't extract and build the requested records with one query, use two or more and collect them in a union query - or write to a temp table - which you use as source for the export to csv (if this is the optimum format for the import).

Writing a csv in VBA - without the built-in export tool which can cause some troubles - is piece of cake and has been described numerous times here.
You can also use a query to write the text file directly with the help of the schema.ini file:

http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/htdig/accessd/2004-October/028800.html 

/gustav


>>> Kwilliamson at RTKL.com 30-11-2006 16:08:07 >>>
Man...I forgot what a pain in the A@& getting reports out of Access is.

 

I asked earlier how to export a report into csv format....doesn't seem
that is likely.  I need to ultimately generate a csv format file, to
import into our sql-based application.  This is for journal entries.  I
have written a couple of reports to generate journal
entries....utilizing the different levels of grouping and summing.  A
good bit of the report is taking data, at different groupings, and
calculating percentages to apply to user-entered data (for allocating
overhead to different entities and account numbers.)  Since csv is out,
I am resigned to bring the data into excel...and then export to csv
format.

 

The problem is that, oddly, when I am looking at the data on the report
(on screen) and then hit the "Analyze It with Excel" button....the
columns come over in different order than the report.  Plus, one of the
fields is a text field = "00".  It keeps coming into Excel as = 0
(general format.)  I can't think of a way to store the values, and
export values and formulas to Excel...as Rocky suggested.  

 

Any help is greatly appreciated.

 

Regards,

 

Keith E. Williamson | Assist. Controller| kwilliamson at rtkl.com 

RTKL Associates Inc. | 901 South Bond Street | Baltimore, Maryland
21231-3305

410-537-6098 direct | 410-276-2136 fax | www.rtkl.com 
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From Kwilliamson at RTKL.com  Thu Nov 30 11:16:19 2006
From: Kwilliamson at RTKL.com (Keith Williamson)
Date: Thu, 30 Nov 2006 12:16:19 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Still on the Reporting
In-Reply-To: <6A6AA9DF57E4F046BDA1E273BDDB67727DE133@corp-es01.fleetpride.com>
Message-ID: <B61870319AC0CC42A143BA69E5798D0803405C@fenwick.rtkl.rtkl.net>

Good thoughts.  Thanks.

I suppose this is what I will have to do, as well.  I was trying to do
something quick and easy.  In the end......it is neither.  :)

Keith E. Williamson | Assist. Controller| kwilliamson at rtkl.com

RTKL Associates Inc. | 901 South Bond Street | Baltimore, Maryland
21231-3305

410-537-6098 direct | 410-276-2136 fax | www.rtkl.com


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Hale, Jim
Sent: Thursday, November 30, 2006 12:01 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Still on the Reporting

BTW allocations are another great use of non cartesian joins. First
create a
groupby query which generates a total (one field one record). Create a
query
with the detail records which add to the total. Place the two queries in
the
design grid without any join. The result set will have the total as a
field
in every record so it is a simple matter to divide the detail by the
total
to generate a percentage.

As I think about it another reason I dump the data to Excel is because
allocations inevitably don't balance (usually by pennies) due to
rounding.
It is a simple matter in Excel to create a formula to handle the
rounding.

Jim Hale

-----Original Message-----
From: Keith Williamson [mailto:Kwilliamson at rtkl.com]
Sent: Thursday, November 30, 2006 9:08 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: [AccessD] Still on the Reporting


Man...I forgot what a pain in the A@& getting reports out of Access is.

 

I asked earlier how to export a report into csv format....doesn't seem
that is likely.  I need to ultimately generate a csv format file, to
import into our sql-based application.  This is for journal entries.  I
have written a couple of reports to generate journal
entries....utilizing the different levels of grouping and summing.  A
good bit of the report is taking data, at different groupings, and
calculating percentages to apply to user-entered data (for allocating
overhead to different entities and account numbers.)  Since csv is out,
I am resigned to bring the data into excel...and then export to csv
format.

 

The problem is that, oddly, when I am looking at the data on the report
(on screen) and then hit the "Analyze It with Excel" button....the
columns come over in different order than the report.  Plus, one of the
fields is a text field = "00".  It keeps coming into Excel as = 0
(general format.)  I can't think of a way to store the values, and
export values and formulas to Excel...as Rocky suggested.  

 

Any help is greatly appreciated.

 

Regards,

 

Keith E. Williamson | Assist. Controller| kwilliamson at rtkl.com


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From Jim.Hale at FleetPride.com  Thu Nov 30 11:21:04 2006
From: Jim.Hale at FleetPride.com (Hale, Jim)
Date: Thu, 30 Nov 2006 11:21:04 -0600
Subject: [AccessD] Still on the Reporting
Message-ID: <6A6AA9DF57E4F046BDA1E273BDDB67727DE134@corp-es01.fleetpride.com>

quick allocations is an oxymoron :-)
Jim Hale

-----Original Message-----
From: Keith Williamson [mailto:Kwilliamson at rtkl.com]
Sent: Thursday, November 30, 2006 11:16 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Still on the Reporting


Good thoughts.  Thanks.

I suppose this is what I will have to do, as well.  I was trying to do
something quick and easy.  In the end......it is neither.  :)

Keith E. Williamson | Assist. Controller| kwilliamson at rtkl.com

RTKL Associates Inc. | 901 South Bond Street | Baltimore, Maryland
21231-3305

410-537-6098 direct | 410-276-2136 fax | www.rtkl.com


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Hale, Jim
Sent: Thursday, November 30, 2006 12:01 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Still on the Reporting

BTW allocations are another great use of non cartesian joins. First
create a
groupby query which generates a total (one field one record). Create a
query
with the detail records which add to the total. Place the two queries in
the
design grid without any join. The result set will have the total as a
field
in every record so it is a simple matter to divide the detail by the
total
to generate a percentage.

As I think about it another reason I dump the data to Excel is because
allocations inevitably don't balance (usually by pennies) due to
rounding.
It is a simple matter in Excel to create a formula to handle the
rounding.

Jim Hale

-----Original Message-----
From: Keith Williamson [mailto:Kwilliamson at rtkl.com]
Sent: Thursday, November 30, 2006 9:08 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: [AccessD] Still on the Reporting


Man...I forgot what a pain in the A@& getting reports out of Access is.

 

I asked earlier how to export a report into csv format....doesn't seem
that is likely.  I need to ultimately generate a csv format file, to
import into our sql-based application.  This is for journal entries.  I
have written a couple of reports to generate journal
entries....utilizing the different levels of grouping and summing.  A
good bit of the report is taking data, at different groupings, and
calculating percentages to apply to user-entered data (for allocating
overhead to different entities and account numbers.)  Since csv is out,
I am resigned to bring the data into excel...and then export to csv
format.

 

The problem is that, oddly, when I am looking at the data on the report
(on screen) and then hit the "Analyze It with Excel" button....the
columns come over in different order than the report.  Plus, one of the
fields is a text field = "00".  It keeps coming into Excel as = 0
(general format.)  I can't think of a way to store the values, and
export values and formulas to Excel...as Rocky suggested.  

 

Any help is greatly appreciated.

 

Regards,

 

Keith E. Williamson | Assist. Controller| kwilliamson at rtkl.com


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From markamatte at hotmail.com  Thu Nov 30 12:11:57 2006
From: markamatte at hotmail.com (Mark A Matte)
Date: Thu, 30 Nov 2006 18:11:57 +0000
Subject: [AccessD] Email Automation to Outlook problem
In-Reply-To: <20061130000950.63940.qmail@web88208.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <BAY127-F12C6AC8F0075E4DAE67231D2DB0@phx.gbl>

The only reason I use it because it was already on the box and easy to 
automate...but its not working now.  All I need to send is a short text 
message...and be automated...any easy suggestions other than outlook?

Thanks,

Mark A. Matte


>From: artful at rogers.com
>Reply-To: Access Developers discussion and problem 
>solving<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
>To: Access Developers discussion and problem 
>solving<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
>Subject: Re: [AccessD] Email Automation to Outlook problem
>Date: Wed, 29 Nov 2006 16:09:50 -0800 (PST)
>
>LOL. I didn't realize that anyone still did use Outlook. Ok, I stand 
>corrected.
>
>
>----- Original Message ----
>From: Gustav Brock <Gustav at cactus.dk>
>To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
>Sent: Wednesday, November 29, 2006 12:09:03 PM
>Subject: Re: [AccessD] Email Automation to Outlook problem
>
>
>Hi Susan and Chris
>
>Oh, that's another story - I don't use Outlook - so I cannot help.
>Could it be an automatic Windows Updating issue?
>
>/gustav
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From adtp at airtelbroadband.in  Thu Nov 30 12:06:06 2006
From: adtp at airtelbroadband.in (A.D.TEJPAL)
Date: Thu, 30 Nov 2006 23:36:06 +0530
Subject: [AccessD] Still on the Reporting
References: <B61870319AC0CC42A143BA69E5798D08033FBA@fenwick.rtkl.rtkl.net>
Message-ID: <012101c714aa$6394f210$da0265cb@pcadt>

Keith,

    For ensuring proper alignment & formatting along with appropriate display of group footers, while exporting an access report to excel, my sample db named  Reports_AccessToExcelAndWord  might be of interest to you. It is available at Rogers Access Library (other developers library). Link - http://www.rogersaccesslibrary.com/OtherLibraries.asp#Tejpal,A.D.
 
    You could adapt the underlying approach suitably, for your specific needs.
 
Best wishes,
A.D.Tejpal
---------------

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Keith Williamson 
  To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving 
  Sent: Thursday, November 30, 2006 20:38
  Subject: [AccessD] Still on the Reporting


  Man...I forgot what a pain in the A@& getting reports out of Access is. 

  I asked earlier how to export a report into csv format....doesn't seem
  that is likely.  I need to ultimately generate a csv format file, to
  import into our sql-based application.  This is for journal entries.  I
  have written a couple of reports to generate journal
  entries....utilizing the different levels of grouping and summing.  A
  good bit of the report is taking data, at different groupings, and
  calculating percentages to apply to user-entered data (for allocating
  overhead to different entities and account numbers.)  Since csv is out,
  I am resigned to bring the data into excel...and then export to csv
  format. 

  The problem is that, oddly, when I am looking at the data on the report (on screen) and then hit the "Analyze It with Excel" button....the columns come over in different order than the report.  Plus, one of the fields is a text field = "00".  It keeps coming into Excel as = 0 (general format.)  I can't think of a way to store the values, and export values and formulas to Excel...as Rocky suggested.   

  Any help is greatly appreciated. 

  Regards, 

  Keith E. Williamson | Assist. Controller| kwilliamson at rtkl.com

From dgibso at uark.edu  Thu Nov 30 12:27:11 2006
From: dgibso at uark.edu (David A Gibson)
Date: Thu, 30 Nov 2006 12:27:11 -0600
Subject: [AccessD] Email Automation to Outlook problem
In-Reply-To: <BAY127-F12C6AC8F0075E4DAE67231D2DB0@phx.gbl>
References: <20061130000950.63940.qmail@web88208.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
	<BAY127-F12C6AC8F0075E4DAE67231D2DB0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <7.0.1.0.0.20061130122159.01e48838@uark.edu>

Have used this in the past and it worked well.

http://www.geocel.com/devmailer/

DevMailer is a COM (Component Object Model) object designed to send 
Email via SMTP
  from any COM / OLE / ActiveX enabled application. Currently 
DevMailer can be used from the following platforms:
    * Active Server Pages (Microsoft IIS or Chili!ASP extensions)
    * Microsoft Visual Basic 4.x/5.x/6.x
    * Microsoft Word, Access, Excel 95/97 (VBA)
    * Windows Scripting Host (cscript / wscript)
    * Perl 5.x for Win32
    * Inprise Delphi 4
    * Microsoft Visual C++ 4.x/5.x/6.x
    * Microsoft Visual J++ 1.x/6.0 (Java)
$99 for 1 user

David G

At 12:11 PM 11/30/2006, you wrote:
>The only reason I use it because it was already on the box and easy 
>to automate...but its not working now.  All I need to send is a 
>short text message...and be automated...any easy suggestions other 
>than outlook?
>
>Thanks,
>
>Mark A. Matte


From jimdettman at verizon.net  Thu Nov 30 14:59:13 2006
From: jimdettman at verizon.net (Jim Dettman)
Date: Thu, 30 Nov 2006 15:59:13 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Where to place a filter
In-Reply-To: <004d01c7147e$2ede8bc0$e1265b05@m6805>
Message-ID: <002401c714c2$65393f50$8abea8c0@XPS>

John,

  Through Experts-Exchange, I bumped into something similar, but the
opposite of what you've encountered.  A query opened in design view and
saved while the tables were empty would yield a fast execution, but if the
tables were full, a very slow execution would result.

  Using JET showplan, I found that JET was not choosing an optimal plan when
the tables were full.  It was performing the joins on the tables in reverse
(vs. the fast plan), which caused a sort to be required.  If the joins were
done the other  way, no sort was required and thus a lot of time was saved.
Basically it was a bug in the query optimizer.  Although "bug" may be too
strong of a word; the query optimizer has to draw the line somewhere in the
number of different plans it checks or it would never finish.

  Since there was no way around it, the guy I was helping finally decided on
writing a routine to empty the table, perform the query, then fill the table
back up.  As long as the query was not resaved, the fast execution plan was
always used.

Jim.

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of JWColby
Sent: Thursday, November 30, 2006 7:51 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Where to place a filter

There is more to the story, which leaves me completely confused.  

In the process of fixing the problem, I had dropped the AgencyID FK from the
tblChild table and pulled in the AgencyID PK from tblAgency, and then
applied the filter to the AgencyID PK.  To do further testing I then pulled
in the FK from the tblChild table again and moved the filter back to that FK
field and the speed was still 3 seconds!

To summarize, I had an extremely slow query.  I discovered that if I simply
pulled the PK from the tblAgency and applied the filter to that (dropping
the FK AgencyID from the tblChild out of the query in the process) the query
went from 3 minutes down to 3 seconds.  However when I pulled the AgencyID
FK back out of the tblChild and reapplied the filter to the FK, the query
time remained at 3 seconds.

Hmmmm.....

It certainly sounds like something about the query was saved in the
background, and whatever that something was it was corrupted or something.
Changing the query by pulling the PK and applying the filter to that,
dropping the FK in the process, perhaps caused something in the background
to be corrected.

I dunno.  I have never seen anything like this before.  

Sadly it means I cannot necessarily look for speedups in my existing
database by moving a filter from an FK to the corresponding PK.


John W. Colby
Colby Consulting
www.ColbyConsulting.com

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of JWColby
Sent: Thursday, November 30, 2006 6:45 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] Where to place a filter

I found an interesting anomaly today.  I was troubleshooting why a query was
two orders of magnitude slower in a query in a new version of a database vs.
the same query in an older version of the database.  To make a long story
short:
 
Two tables, Agency / child
 
Agency has a PKID
Child has a FK for the agency PKID
Child joined to agency on this PK/FK
 
Filter on the FK in child yields a query 3 minutes long Move the filter to
the Agency PKID the time drops to 3 seconds!!!
 
I have to assume that the difference lies in the fact that the PK is a
unique index vs. a non-unique index for a FK.
 
I have to say that I had never thought about this specific subject and just
treated an index as an index, but in the future I will examine carefully
applying a filter on an FK as opposed to joining to the required table and
filtering on the PK.
 
Any thoughts on the subject?
 
John W. Colby
Colby Consulting
www.ColbyConsulting.com
 
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From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com  Thu Nov 30 16:13:45 2006
From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (JWColby)
Date: Thu, 30 Nov 2006 17:13:45 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Where to place a filter
In-Reply-To: <002401c714c2$65393f50$8abea8c0@XPS>
Message-ID: <00be01c714cc$ce20f9e0$e1265b05@m6805>

LOL, that is one heck of a workaround!


John W. Colby
Colby Consulting
www.ColbyConsulting.com

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim Dettman
Sent: Thursday, November 30, 2006 3:59 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Where to place a filter

John,

  Through Experts-Exchange, I bumped into something similar, but the
opposite of what you've encountered.  A query opened in design view and
saved while the tables were empty would yield a fast execution, but if the
tables were full, a very slow execution would result.

  Using JET showplan, I found that JET was not choosing an optimal plan when
the tables were full.  It was performing the joins on the tables in reverse
(vs. the fast plan), which caused a sort to be required.  If the joins were
done the other  way, no sort was required and thus a lot of time was saved.
Basically it was a bug in the query optimizer.  Although "bug" may be too
strong of a word; the query optimizer has to draw the line somewhere in the
number of different plans it checks or it would never finish.

  Since there was no way around it, the guy I was helping finally decided on
writing a routine to empty the table, perform the query, then fill the table
back up.  As long as the query was not resaved, the fast execution plan was
always used.

Jim.

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of JWColby
Sent: Thursday, November 30, 2006 7:51 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Where to place a filter

There is more to the story, which leaves me completely confused.  

In the process of fixing the problem, I had dropped the AgencyID FK from the
tblChild table and pulled in the AgencyID PK from tblAgency, and then
applied the filter to the AgencyID PK.  To do further testing I then pulled
in the FK from the tblChild table again and moved the filter back to that FK
field and the speed was still 3 seconds!

To summarize, I had an extremely slow query.  I discovered that if I simply
pulled the PK from the tblAgency and applied the filter to that (dropping
the FK AgencyID from the tblChild out of the query in the process) the query
went from 3 minutes down to 3 seconds.  However when I pulled the AgencyID
FK back out of the tblChild and reapplied the filter to the FK, the query
time remained at 3 seconds.

Hmmmm.....

It certainly sounds like something about the query was saved in the
background, and whatever that something was it was corrupted or something.
Changing the query by pulling the PK and applying the filter to that,
dropping the FK in the process, perhaps caused something in the background
to be corrected.

I dunno.  I have never seen anything like this before.  

Sadly it means I cannot necessarily look for speedups in my existing
database by moving a filter from an FK to the corresponding PK.


John W. Colby
Colby Consulting
www.ColbyConsulting.com

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of JWColby
Sent: Thursday, November 30, 2006 6:45 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] Where to place a filter

I found an interesting anomaly today.  I was troubleshooting why a query was
two orders of magnitude slower in a query in a new version of a database vs.
the same query in an older version of the database.  To make a long story
short:
 
Two tables, Agency / child
 
Agency has a PKID
Child has a FK for the agency PKID
Child joined to agency on this PK/FK
 
Filter on the FK in child yields a query 3 minutes long Move the filter to
the Agency PKID the time drops to 3 seconds!!!
 
I have to assume that the difference lies in the fact that the PK is a
unique index vs. a non-unique index for a FK.
 
I have to say that I had never thought about this specific subject and just
treated an index as an index, but in the future I will examine carefully
applying a filter on an FK as opposed to joining to the required table and
filtering on the PK.
 
Any thoughts on the subject?
 
John W. Colby
Colby Consulting
www.ColbyConsulting.com
 
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From bchacc at san.rr.com  Thu Nov 30 23:10:33 2006
From: bchacc at san.rr.com (Beach Access Software)
Date: Thu, 30 Nov 2006 21:10:33 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] OT: Splitting a PDF file
Message-ID: <013201c71507$07e3ea40$6401a8c0@HAL9005>

Dear List:

 

Is there any way to split up a PDF file without having the full Adobe?  

 

Our community planning group has a 128 page doc of which someone would like
just the first 23 pages.  

 

MTIA

 

Rocky

 



From darrend at nimble.com.au  Thu Nov 30 23:26:03 2006
From: darrend at nimble.com.au (Darren DICK)
Date: Fri, 1 Dec 2006 16:26:03 +1100
Subject: [AccessD] OT: Splitting a PDF file
In-Reply-To: <013201c71507$07e3ea40$6401a8c0@HAL9005>
Message-ID: <004601c71509$33206b00$111b910a@DENZILLAP>

Hi Rocky

Just a way out suggestion

Get PDF995 from PDF995.com (it's a free PDF writer) then 'print' pages 1 - 23 or
whatever to the PDF995 'printer'

That should create a new 23 page PDF file 

HTH
 
See ya

Darren
------------------


-----Original Message-----
From: Beach Access Software [mailto:bchacc at san.rr.com] 
Sent: Friday, 1 December 2006 4:11 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] OT: Splitting a PDF file

Dear List:

 

Is there any way to split up a PDF file without having the full Adobe?  

 

Our community planning group has a 128 page doc of which someone would like
just the first 23 pages.  

 

MTIA

 

Rocky

 

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From marklbreen at gmail.com  Wed Nov  1 02:09:20 2006
From: marklbreen at gmail.com (Mark Breen)
Date: Wed, 1 Nov 2006 08:09:20 +0000
Subject: [AccessD] Raid controller
In-Reply-To: <000601c6fd28$9e622870$657aa8c0@m6805>
References: <c7fd28d00610310957k62010b9dy75fe98c114bc85f8@mail.gmail.com>
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Hi John,

And do you host your motherboard in the case also, or just the disks?

In fact, is that even possible to have the main PC (and controller) in one
box and the disks in a remote box?

You mention that the two power supplies are not included.  So, does that
mean that you are only using one?  Surely you must be near the capacity of
the PSU?

Anyway, I am sitting in Ireland in admiration of your big disk ;)  wishing I
had only like that.

Mark










On 31/10/06, JWColby <jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com> wrote:
>
> Mark,
>
> This is a Lian Li case:
>
> http://www.newegg.com/product/product.asp?item=N82E16811112108
>
> It has dedicated space for 12 3.5" disks down in the bottom of the case as
> well as two power supplies (not included).  There is also space for SEVEN
> 5.25" drives up in the front of the case, forward of the
> motherboard.  This
> case is... shall we say "large".
>
> I really like the case.
>
> 8~)
>
>
> John W. Colby
> Colby Consulting
> www.ColbyConsulting.com
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Mark Breen
> Sent: Tuesday, October 31, 2006 12:58 PM
> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] Raid controller
>
> Hi John,
>
> What kind of box are you hosting the disks in, seven disks is quite a few,
> especially if you have a CD drive or two also.
>
> Do you have a seperate tower just for disks?  or does your existing case
> have enough space?
>
> Congrats on the controller and disks, sounds great,
>
>
> Mark
>
>
>
>
> On 31/10/06, William Hindman <wdhindman at dejpolsystems.com> wrote:
> >
> > ...thanks for the tip JC ...as a matter of fact I was about to look
> > into just that for a client :)
> >
> > William Hindman
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "JWColby" <jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com>
> > To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'"
> > <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>; "'Discussion of Hardware and Software
> > issues'" <dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>;
> > <dba-sqlserver at databaseadvisors.com>
> > Sent: Monday, October 30, 2006 9:00 PM
> > Subject: [AccessD] Raid controller
> >
> >
> > >I purchased an Areca 1220 SATA 8 disk raid controller, with (7)
> > >Seagate
> > >10.1
> > > 320 gb hard disks to create a raid system with.  One of the disks
> > >was  damaged and had to be RMAd.  I went ahead and created a Raid 5
> > >array
> > using
> > > the 6 remaining drives.  This gave me about 1.0 terra bytes on one
> > volume
> > > and about 370 gb on another volume, both Raid 5.  I just received
> > > the
> > RMAd
> > > drive back, popped it in, added it to the array and told the
> > > controller
> > to
> > > convert to Raid 6 for both volumes.  That was early this afternoon,
> > > and the controller has finished the conversion of the large array to
> > > Raid 6 and
> > is
> > > about 50% finished converting the smaller array to Raid 6, all
> > > consuming ZERO CPU and doing so while I was using the arrays pretty
> > > heavily.  The controller is also very fast.  Raid 5/6 writes are
> > > about the speed of
> > the
> > > individual drives and reads are much faster (~raid 0 speed according
> > > to
> > > Areca)
> > >
> > > These disks are about $95 from Newegg and can be purchased with free
> > > shipping if you keep your eyes open so that is a real $95 / disk.
> > > This particular controller is currently about $500.  This made my
> > > actual cost about $1200 for 1400gb in a Raid 6 config.
> > >
> > > Someday I hope that the Seagate 10.1 750 gb drives drop into this
> > > price range in which case I will upgrade.  ATM those drives are
> > > about
> > $375-$400
> > > each which makes them out of my range.
> > >
> > > I am impressed with this Areca controller which is the point of this
> > > email.
> > > Areca makes controllers that handle various numbers of disks.  The
> > > controller uses a PCI-X8 connection to the CPU so you must have a
> > > PCI-X capable motherboard.
> > >
> > > If you need more disks, they also have a 12, 16 and 24 disk
> > > controller, for more money of course.
> > >
> > > Nice controller so far!
> > >
> > > John W. Colby
> > > Colby Consulting
> > > www.ColbyConsulting.com
> > >
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From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com  Wed Nov  1 06:57:04 2006
From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (JWColby)
Date: Wed, 1 Nov 2006 07:57:04 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Raid controller
In-Reply-To: <c7fd28d00611010009j394c95deya63f220c31030b7e@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <002801c6fdb5$3b6f0fc0$657aa8c0@m6805>

Mark,

The case comes without any power supply, you purchase and install whatever
PS you desire.  Apparently there are supplies that have a cable between them
such that they "hot fail over" in case a PS dies?  Or something.  I
purchased this PS for the system:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16817121012

It is a six hundred watt supply and appears to supply plenty of current for
everything.  I did have to get splitters to get that many (and more) power
connectors for SATA.  The PS manufacturers haven't quite caught up to
reality yet and still provide most of their connections for the old style
IDE drive power.

Anyway, yes, the motherboard is in that chassis as well.  It is just a
normal, if rather oversized chassis. It has 4 120 mm fans included and keeps
everything well ventilated.  A very nice case.

As for the "big disk", it is indeed nice.  These 320gb Seagates are cheap,
at least here in the states.  At $95 each delivered to my door, they are the
lowest price / mb around, the issue is getting them all put together into a
solidly functioning raid array.  I purchased this ASUS motherboard for the
system:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16813131011

Which to be honest I am not thrilled with.  It works fine but it turns out
that the MB manufacturers in general focus on "enthusiasts" which equates to
gamers, intent on over clocking.  I need other things, like a stable, FAST
raid 5 (at least) array.  The Raid controller on this MB just doesn't work.
I got Raid 5 going and I managed to get it stable, but it was dog slow, down
around 5 mbytes / sec write time which is unusable.  That is why I went
looking for the raid card solution.  

The Areca is expensive but it is very fast.  It has a dedicated Intel
processor and about 128 mbytes of ram on the raid card so the card itself
handles all of the overhead of generating the Raid striping stuff.  It is
really too bad it is so expensive, though they are marketing to IT admins
with a budget (not me ;-).  I would have gone with the 12 or even the 16
disk controller but the extra $450 just wasn't there, and since I didn't
have to have it now...

The nice thing is that it just worked.  I plugged it in, plugged the drives
in, booted up, went in the bios and created the drive, waited several hours
while it initialized and then it all just worked.  And FAST!  Writes up
around 80 mbytes / sec and reads up around 300 mbytes / sec.  This thing is
a screamer.

John W. Colby
Colby Consulting
www.ColbyConsulting.com

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Mark Breen
Sent: Wednesday, November 01, 2006 3:09 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Raid controller

Hi John,

And do you host your motherboard in the case also, or just the disks?

In fact, is that even possible to have the main PC (and controller) in one
box and the disks in a remote box?

You mention that the two power supplies are not included.  So, does that
mean that you are only using one?  Surely you must be near the capacity of
the PSU?

Anyway, I am sitting in Ireland in admiration of your big disk ;)  wishing I
had only like that.

Mark










On 31/10/06, JWColby <jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com> wrote:
>
> Mark,
>
> This is a Lian Li case:
>
> http://www.newegg.com/product/product.asp?item=N82E16811112108
>
> It has dedicated space for 12 3.5" disks down in the bottom of the 
> case as well as two power supplies (not included).  There is also 
> space for SEVEN 5.25" drives up in the front of the case, forward of 
> the motherboard.  This case is... shall we say "large".
>
> I really like the case.
>
> 8~)
>
>
> John W. Colby
> Colby Consulting
> www.ColbyConsulting.com
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Mark Breen
> Sent: Tuesday, October 31, 2006 12:58 PM
> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] Raid controller
>
> Hi John,
>
> What kind of box are you hosting the disks in, seven disks is quite a 
> few, especially if you have a CD drive or two also.
>
> Do you have a seperate tower just for disks?  or does your existing 
> case have enough space?
>
> Congrats on the controller and disks, sounds great,
>
>
> Mark
>
>
>
>
> On 31/10/06, William Hindman <wdhindman at dejpolsystems.com> wrote:
> >
> > ...thanks for the tip JC ...as a matter of fact I was about to look 
> > into just that for a client :)
> >
> > William Hindman
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "JWColby" <jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com>
> > To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'"
> > <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>; "'Discussion of Hardware and 
> > Software issues'" <dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com>; 
> > <dba-sqlserver at databaseadvisors.com>
> > Sent: Monday, October 30, 2006 9:00 PM
> > Subject: [AccessD] Raid controller
> >
> >
> > >I purchased an Areca 1220 SATA 8 disk raid controller, with (7) 
> > >Seagate
> > >10.1
> > > 320 gb hard disks to create a raid system with.  One of the disks 
> > >was  damaged and had to be RMAd.  I went ahead and created a Raid 5 
> > >array
> > using
> > > the 6 remaining drives.  This gave me about 1.0 terra bytes on one
> > volume
> > > and about 370 gb on another volume, both Raid 5.  I just received 
> > > the
> > RMAd
> > > drive back, popped it in, added it to the array and told the 
> > > controller
> > to
> > > convert to Raid 6 for both volumes.  That was early this 
> > > afternoon, and the controller has finished the conversion of the 
> > > large array to Raid 6 and
> > is
> > > about 50% finished converting the smaller array to Raid 6, all 
> > > consuming ZERO CPU and doing so while I was using the arrays 
> > > pretty heavily.  The controller is also very fast.  Raid 5/6 
> > > writes are about the speed of
> > the
> > > individual drives and reads are much faster (~raid 0 speed 
> > > according to
> > > Areca)
> > >
> > > These disks are about $95 from Newegg and can be purchased with 
> > > free shipping if you keep your eyes open so that is a real $95 / disk.
> > > This particular controller is currently about $500.  This made my 
> > > actual cost about $1200 for 1400gb in a Raid 6 config.
> > >
> > > Someday I hope that the Seagate 10.1 750 gb drives drop into this 
> > > price range in which case I will upgrade.  ATM those drives are 
> > > about
> > $375-$400
> > > each which makes them out of my range.
> > >
> > > I am impressed with this Areca controller which is the point of 
> > > this email.
> > > Areca makes controllers that handle various numbers of disks.  The 
> > > controller uses a PCI-X8 connection to the CPU so you must have a 
> > > PCI-X capable motherboard.
> > >
> > > If you need more disks, they also have a 12, 16 and 24 disk 
> > > controller, for more money of course.
> > >
> > > Nice controller so far!
> > >
> > > John W. Colby
> > > Colby Consulting
> > > www.ColbyConsulting.com
> > >
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From Gustav at cactus.dk  Wed Nov  1 08:46:03 2006
From: Gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Wed, 01 Nov 2006 15:46:03 +0100
Subject: [AccessD] Limit Text in Field
Message-ID: <s548c14d.033@cactus.dk>

Hi Arthur 

Oh, this _is_ a big deal and I'm glad you brought attention to it. An application should be user-friendly.

/gustav

>>> artful at rogers.com 01-11-2006 05:16 >>>
Slick. My only criticism is that it waits for the user to go too far, rather than cautioning the user that he is about to go too far. (I tend toward guiding users to correctness rather than busting them for errors.) Perhaps your code could be modified to write the [length] + " of 255 characters allowed" to the status bar, so the user anticipates the error rather than commits it. 

Not a big deal. I like your solution. One of my mantras is, "Make the user feel like a dancer." That means preclude error to the best of my ability, and then of course deal with it should it occur.

A.

----- Original Message ----
From: John Bartow <john at winhaven.net>
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Tuesday, October 31, 2006 1:12:03 PM
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Limit Text in Field

Hi Virginia,

FWIW, here's the on change event procedure that I use with a fax form on
which the "regarding" line field (Text 255) is not long enough for a huge
description but the txtMessage field (Memo) is:

Private Sub txtRegarding_Change()
   'Comment: prevents user form adding too much text to the regarding line
   
   On Error GoTo Form_Open_ERR
   
   If Len(Me.txtRegarding.Text) > 255 Then
      MsgBox "The regarding line can only contain 255 characters, " & _
      "please use the message box for longer text."
      Me.txtRegarding.Text = Left(Me.txtRegarding.Text, 255)
   End If

Form_Open_EXIT:
   Exit Sub
   
Form_Open_ERR:
    MsgBox Err.Description
    Resume Form_Open_EXIT
    
End Sub

HTH
John B.



From Gustav at cactus.dk  Wed Nov  1 09:22:27 2006
From: Gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Wed, 01 Nov 2006 16:22:27 +0100
Subject: [AccessD] checkbox concatenation
Message-ID: <s548c9ea.034@cactus.dk>

Hi William

Sorry for the incomplete comment.
Of course you can do bitmapping in Access VBA, even in SQL, it is just not very fast as you miss a bitmapped index to search on - that's what Cach? (as one example) has.

For some inspiration on SQL code, read up the message "Math problem" of 2003-10-15:

http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/htdig/accessd/2003-October/014778.html 

/gustav 


>>> wdhindman at dejpolsystems.com 31-10-2006 21:08 >>>
...oh come on guys! ...first its my dictionary and if I say it grows 
logarithmically then that's what it does, eh.
...geometrically! ...balderdash, I say ...where is Charlotte when we need 
her to maintain discipline? :)

...and then both Gustav and Jim do more than hint that good old Access isn't 
up to bit mapping this :(

...and of course Stuart takes a gratuitous swing at my joins ...see above 
...its MY join, eh!

...sheesh ...if this were the old AccessD ...long before daddyhood mellowed 
the hell out of JC, I'd just have him Colbyize the lot of you!

...and here I am, still as dazed and confused as when I first posted 
...early Alzheimer's anyone?

...thanks :)

William Hindman
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Jim Lawrence" <accessd at shaw.ca>
To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'" 
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Tuesday, October 31, 2006 1:46 PM
Subject: Re: [AccessD] checkbox concatenation


...and a further comment:

If the table was growing *logarithmically*, William would be delighted!  The
problem is that it is growing *geometrically*.

Reading the Cache doc, a bitmap index may just do the trick, especially as
the max number of events is probably not that large.
Since this is a sparse array problem, it may also work well with an R-tree
(as found in PostgreSQL).

Jim

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com 
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gustav Brock
Sent: Tuesday, October 31, 2006 9:10 AM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com 
Subject: Re: [AccessD] checkbox concatenation

Hi William

That would require an engine capable of bit-mapped indexing and searching.
At least one can do this, InterSystems Cach?:

http://www.intersystems.com/cache/ 

http://www.intersystems.com/cache/technology/components/bitmap/index.html 

/gustav

>>> wdhindman at dejpolsystems.com 31-10-2006 15:47:51 >>>
...given four tables

   tblContact pk ContactID fk CompanyId
   tblCompany pk CompanyID
   tbEvent pk EventID
   tblEventReg pkERID fk EventID fk CompanyD fk ContactID

...tblEventRegistration is a join table to show which contacts from which
companies attended which events.
...given that thousands of contacts attend each event, tblEventReg is
growing logarithmically

Q: is it feasible to use a numeric field in the tblContacts to replace
tblEventReg by using event checkboxes instead, assigning them a numeric
value by show and then mathematically summing them in the numeric field
...thus using one integer to represent every event attended by that contact?

...yes/no? ...pros/cons?

William Hindman




From Gustav at cactus.dk  Wed Nov  1 09:39:16 2006
From: Gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Wed, 01 Nov 2006 16:39:16 +0100
Subject: [AccessD] Posters from Microsoft
Message-ID: <s548cdd0.035@cactus.dk>

Hi all

Yes, posters:

 - Developer Roadmap for the 2007 Microsoft Office System. 
  Download this poster to view a developer roadmap for the 2007 Microsoft Office system programs, tools, services, and servers. 

 - Microsoft Office InfoPath 2007 Managed Object Model Poster. 
  Download this poster and get a deep dive into some of the new and enhanced objects in the InfoPath 2007 managed object model. 

 - Developer Map for SharePoint Products and Technologies Poster. 
  Download this poster and discover the developer roadmap for Microsoft SharePoint Products and Technologies. 

http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?familyid=771aeb45-9d27-4d1f-acd1-9b950637d64e&displaylang=en#filelist

/gustav



From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com  Wed Nov  1 09:48:00 2006
From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (JWColby)
Date: Wed, 1 Nov 2006 10:48:00 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] checkbox concatenation
In-Reply-To: <s548c9ea.034@cactus.dk>
Message-ID: <002f01c6fdcd$1cdbd5d0$657aa8c0@m6805>

LOL.  You must forget what daddyhood is like William.  Mellowing it is not!

Out the door without a parachute I say.

Back to your problem, what is the issue, simply the size of the eventreg
table?  Is it up in the millions of records?  Hundreds of millions?  It
seems unlikely that it really matters as long as it is properly indexed.

John W. Colby
Colby Consulting
www.ColbyConsulting.com

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gustav Brock
Sent: Wednesday, November 01, 2006 10:22 AM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: Re: [AccessD] checkbox concatenation

Hi William

Sorry for the incomplete comment.
Of course you can do bitmapping in Access VBA, even in SQL, it is just not
very fast as you miss a bitmapped index to search on - that's what Cach? (as
one example) has.

For some inspiration on SQL code, read up the message "Math problem" of
2003-10-15:

http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/htdig/accessd/2003-October/014778.html 

/gustav 


>>> wdhindman at dejpolsystems.com 31-10-2006 21:08 >>>
...oh come on guys! ...first its my dictionary and if I say it grows
logarithmically then that's what it does, eh.
...geometrically! ...balderdash, I say ...where is Charlotte when we need
her to maintain discipline? :)

...and then both Gustav and Jim do more than hint that good old Access isn't
up to bit mapping this :(

...and of course Stuart takes a gratuitous swing at my joins ...see above
...its MY join, eh!

...sheesh ...if this were the old AccessD ...long before daddyhood mellowed
the hell out of JC, I'd just have him Colbyize the lot of you!

...and here I am, still as dazed and confused as when I first posted
...early Alzheimer's anyone?

...thanks :)

William Hindman
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jim Lawrence" <accessd at shaw.ca>
To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'" 
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Tuesday, October 31, 2006 1:46 PM
Subject: Re: [AccessD] checkbox concatenation


...and a further comment:

If the table was growing *logarithmically*, William would be delighted!  The
problem is that it is growing *geometrically*.

Reading the Cache doc, a bitmap index may just do the trick, especially as
the max number of events is probably not that large.
Since this is a sparse array problem, it may also work well with an R-tree
(as found in PostgreSQL).

Jim

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com 
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gustav Brock
Sent: Tuesday, October 31, 2006 9:10 AM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com 
Subject: Re: [AccessD] checkbox concatenation

Hi William

That would require an engine capable of bit-mapped indexing and searching.
At least one can do this, InterSystems Cach?:

http://www.intersystems.com/cache/ 

http://www.intersystems.com/cache/technology/components/bitmap/index.html 

/gustav

>>> wdhindman at dejpolsystems.com 31-10-2006 15:47:51 >>>
...given four tables

   tblContact pk ContactID fk CompanyId
   tblCompany pk CompanyID
   tbEvent pk EventID
   tblEventReg pkERID fk EventID fk CompanyD fk ContactID

...tblEventRegistration is a join table to show which contacts from which
companies attended which events.
...given that thousands of contacts attend each event, tblEventReg is
growing logarithmically

Q: is it feasible to use a numeric field in the tblContacts to replace
tblEventReg by using event checkboxes instead, assigning them a numeric
value by show and then mathematically summing them in the numeric field
...thus using one integer to represent every event attended by that contact?

...yes/no? ...pros/cons?

William Hindman


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From cfoust at infostatsystems.com  Wed Nov  1 10:16:48 2006
From: cfoust at infostatsystems.com (Charlotte Foust)
Date: Wed, 1 Nov 2006 08:16:48 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] Ideas wanted for Office project requirements
In-Reply-To: <59A61174B1F5B54B97FD4ADDE71E7D0116AC6A@ddi-01.DDI.local>
Message-ID: <F55048AF7E974F429BB24597D7355EEA178261@INFOSERVER04.infostat.local>

I rebuilt a system somewhat like that a few years back for the US Bureau
of Reclamation.  They produced a report annually (well, it was SUPPOSED
to be annually) by extracting data from a mainframe dumping it into
Excel, copying and pasting into a Word doc and then (theoretically)
totalling the whole thing up and printing an 80+ page report as mandated
by statute.  You'd be better off giving the managers a run-time Access
app to enter their data, with a button to push to transmit it to a
central location.  Of course, it would be better if they simply linked
to a central back end, but I'm assuming for the moment that isn't
feasible.  Then you need a single app to import the data and
redistribute it into the appropriate tables.  Then just create the
report in Access or do a merge with Word if you want pretty formatting.

You could certainly do it using Office automation, but you would never
have the central data store at hand should a report need tweaking, and
you would have to find a way to cross-foot and validate any values month
by month.

Charlotte Foust 

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Michael
Maddison
Sent: Tuesday, October 31, 2006 6:31 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: [AccessD] Ideas wanted for Office project requirements

 Hi all,

Slightly OT.  

I have a client who wants to automate a report writing process.

Currently they have about 30 managers who once a month send either a
Excel workbook or Word doc to some lucky person.  He/she then extracts
the contents of each file and pastes it into a Word doc to be made into
a report.

I don't do much with Office these days so maybe someone will have an
easy solution???

Step 1
My favoured idea so far is to create a Com-addin for Word/Excel that
will take selected text/objects and paste them into a blank file, the
copy the file to a file share.

Step 2 the person who collates the files has another addin that loops
through the contents of the share dir and opens and copies the contents
into fields/bookmarks(?) in a Word doc.

A 3rd component may be needed to sync the whole schmoozle.


I wonder how sturdy a process like this would be...

All responses welcome (except abuse... lol)

cheers



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From john at winhaven.net  Wed Nov  1 11:34:05 2006
From: john at winhaven.net (John Bartow)
Date: Wed, 1 Nov 2006 11:34:05 -0600
Subject: [AccessD] A2k3 system.mdw
In-Reply-To: <021101c6fd0e$16570910$1402a8c0@ScuzzPaq>
Message-ID: <008101c6fddb$ee2512b0$1402a8c0@ScuzzPaq>

OK then, I guess not.

Can someone email me theirs?

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Sent: Tuesday, October 31, 2006 11:01 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] A2k3 system.mdw

When I open my System.mdw file with A2k3 it asks whether I want to open or
convert it. This makes me I think I overwrote my default system.mdw file. I
don't use Access's security but I would like to have the correct version on
my system. Anyone know an easy way to extract the original form the setup
disk?
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From dwaters at usinternet.com  Wed Nov  1 11:45:52 2006
From: dwaters at usinternet.com (Dan Waters)
Date: Wed, 1 Nov 2006 11:45:52 -0600
Subject: [AccessD] A2k3 system.mdw
In-Reply-To: <10646833.1162402838723.JavaMail.root@sniper30>
Message-ID: <000301c6fddd$93c46800$0200a8c0@danwaters>

John,

This might be a long shot but you might do a 'Detect and Repair' for Office.
It might ask you to install the setup disk.

Dan 
 
-----Original Message-----
Subject: Re: [AccessD] A2k3 system.mdw

OK then, I guess not.

Can someone email me theirs?

-----Original Message-----
Subject: [AccessD] A2k3 system.mdw

When I open my System.mdw file with A2k3 it asks whether I want to open or
convert it. This makes me I think I overwrote my default system.mdw file. I
don't use Access's security but I would like to have the correct version on
my system. Anyone know an easy way to extract the original form the setup
disk?
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From JRojas at tnco-inc.com  Wed Nov  1 13:36:52 2006
From: JRojas at tnco-inc.com (Joe Rojas)
Date: Wed, 1 Nov 2006 14:36:52 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Dealing with single quotes and double quotes at the same
	time
Message-ID: <758E92433C4F3740B67BE4DD369AF5772EDEC3@ex2k3.corp.tnco-inc.com>

Hello,

If I construct a string in VBA that contains the following string:
1' 5"

How could I update a field using DoCmd.RunSQL?
I know how to handle this if the string only contains a single quote OR
a double quote but not if the string contains both.

Thanks,
Joe Rojas
IT Manager
TNCO, Inc.
781-447-6661 x7506
jrojas at tnco-inc.com


From gjgiever at myway.com  Wed Nov  1 13:45:28 2006
From: gjgiever at myway.com (Gary J. Giever)
Date: Wed,  1 Nov 2006 14:45:28 -0500 (EST)
Subject: [AccessD] Find And Replace
Message-ID: <20061101194529.06441676B4@mprdmxin.myway.com>


Last week someone here recommended Rick Fisher's Find And Replace.  I check it out, liked it and emailed my registration last Monday morning.  Usually, with this kind of transaction, I get a response with a registration number within an hour or so, but it has been more than two days and I have yet to hear from him. Does anyone know if he is still in business?
  


Gary J. Giever, M.A.
Applications Developer
ACCMHS

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From askolits at ot.com  Wed Nov  1 13:57:28 2006
From: askolits at ot.com (John Skolits)
Date: Wed, 1 Nov 2006 14:57:28 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Find And Replace
In-Reply-To: <20061101194529.06441676B4@mprdmxin.myway.com>
Message-ID: <00a101c6fdef$f5de1060$800101df@officexp>

Pretty sure he's still in business. He returned an email I sent about 2
months ago.

p.s. Great program. I use it practically every day.


 

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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gary J. Giever
Sent: Wednesday, November 01, 2006 2:45 PM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [AccessD] Find And Replace


Last week someone here recommended Rick Fisher's Find And Replace.  I check
it out, liked it and emailed my registration last Monday morning.  Usually,
with this kind of transaction, I get a response with a registration number
within an hour or so, but it has been more than two days and I have yet to
hear from him. Does anyone know if he is still in business?
  


Gary J. Giever, M.A.
Applications Developer
ACCMHS

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From askolits at ot.com  Wed Nov  1 14:01:46 2006
From: askolits at ot.com (John Skolits)
Date: Wed, 1 Nov 2006 15:01:46 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Dealing with single quotes and double quotes at the
	sametime
In-Reply-To: <758E92433C4F3740B67BE4DD369AF5772EDEC3@ex2k3.corp.tnco-inc.com>
Message-ID: <03d601c6fdf0$92b9b420$6501a8c0@LaptopXP>

In the past I have used CHR$(34) for a double quote and CHR$(39) for a
single quote.

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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
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Sent: Wednesday, November 01, 2006 2:37 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: [AccessD] Dealing with single quotes and double quotes at the
sametime

Hello,

If I construct a string in VBA that contains the following string:
1' 5"

How could I update a field using DoCmd.RunSQL?
I know how to handle this if the string only contains a single quote OR
a double quote but not if the string contains both.

Thanks,
Joe Rojas
IT Manager
TNCO, Inc.
781-447-6661 x7506
jrojas at tnco-inc.com
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From askolits at ot.com  Wed Nov  1 14:05:20 2006
From: askolits at ot.com (John Skolits)
Date: Wed, 1 Nov 2006 15:05:20 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Dealing with single quotes and double quotes at the
	sametime
In-Reply-To: <758E92433C4F3740B67BE4DD369AF5772EDEC3@ex2k3.corp.tnco-inc.com>
Message-ID: <03d901c6fdf1$11c0c6f0$6501a8c0@LaptopXP>

Here's an example

strText = "1" & chr$(39) & " 5" & chr$(34)

In this case strText would return - 1' 5"

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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Joe Rojas
Sent: Wednesday, November 01, 2006 2:37 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: [AccessD] Dealing with single quotes and double quotes at the
sametime

Hello,

If I construct a string in VBA that contains the following string:
1' 5"

How could I update a field using DoCmd.RunSQL?
I know how to handle this if the string only contains a single quote OR
a double quote but not if the string contains both.

Thanks,
Joe Rojas
IT Manager
TNCO, Inc.
781-447-6661 x7506
jrojas at tnco-inc.com
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From JRojas at tnco-inc.com  Wed Nov  1 14:12:20 2006
From: JRojas at tnco-inc.com (Joe Rojas)
Date: Wed, 1 Nov 2006 15:12:20 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Dealing with single quotes and double quotes at
	thesametime
Message-ID: <758E92433C4F3740B67BE4DD369AF5772EDEC4@ex2k3.corp.tnco-inc.com>

Thanks for the reply John,

If I were to construct a string using your example:
strText = "1" & chr$(39) & " 5" & chr$(34)

and then executed a statement of :
DoCmd.RunSQL "Update someTable SET fieldname = '" & strText & "' WHERE
someField = someValue"

Won't this generate an error because the DoCmd.RunSQL will get confused
with the mixture of quotes and double quotes?

Thanks,
Joe Rojas
IT Manager
TNCO, Inc.
781-447-6661 x7506
jrojas at tnco-inc.com


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of John Skolits
Sent: Wednesday, November 01, 2006 3:05 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Dealing with single quotes and double quotes at
thesametime

Here's an example

strText = "1" & chr$(39) & " 5" & chr$(34)

In this case strText would return - 1' 5"

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Joe Rojas
Sent: Wednesday, November 01, 2006 2:37 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: [AccessD] Dealing with single quotes and double quotes at the
sametime

Hello,

If I construct a string in VBA that contains the following string:
1' 5"

How could I update a field using DoCmd.RunSQL?
I know how to handle this if the string only contains a single quote OR
a double quote but not if the string contains both.

Thanks,
Joe Rojas
IT Manager
TNCO, Inc.
781-447-6661 x7506
jrojas at tnco-inc.com
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From Lambert.Heenan at AIG.com  Wed Nov  1 14:52:26 2006
From: Lambert.Heenan at AIG.com (Heenan, Lambert)
Date: Wed, 1 Nov 2006 14:52:26 -0600 
Subject: [AccessD] Find And Replace
Message-ID: <E762D59BC2D0694998629044C75FA2850330E9CD@xlivmbx26.aig.com>

If I recall correctly, if was a few days before I got my key emailed to me
too (that was a couple of years ago). I might have jogged his elbow with a
quick enquiry email.

He's a one man band as far as I know, and so may get a bit behind, but it is
a great tool, so worth the effort to get it set up.

Lambert

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of John Skolits
Sent: Wednesday, November 01, 2006 2:57 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Find And Replace


Pretty sure he's still in business. He returned an email I sent about 2
months ago.

p.s. Great program. I use it practically every day.


 

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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gary J. Giever
Sent: Wednesday, November 01, 2006 2:45 PM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [AccessD] Find And Replace


Last week someone here recommended Rick Fisher's Find And Replace.  I check
it out, liked it and emailed my registration last Monday morning.  Usually,
with this kind of transaction, I get a response with a registration number
within an hour or so, but it has been more than two days and I have yet to
hear from him. Does anyone know if he is still in business?
  


Gary J. Giever, M.A.
Applications Developer
ACCMHS

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From askolits at ot.com  Wed Nov  1 15:02:13 2006
From: askolits at ot.com (John Skolits)
Date: Wed, 1 Nov 2006 16:02:13 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Dealing with single quotes and double quotes
	atthesametime
In-Reply-To: <758E92433C4F3740B67BE4DD369AF5772EDEC4@ex2k3.corp.tnco-inc.com>
Message-ID: <03ed01c6fdf9$047fdb90$6501a8c0@LaptopXP>

I have to run out so I can' test it, but it should still work. Just try a
few different iterations and I'm sure you'll figure it out.


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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Joe Rojas
Sent: Wednesday, November 01, 2006 3:12 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Dealing with single quotes and double quotes
atthesametime

Thanks for the reply John,

If I were to construct a string using your example:
strText = "1" & chr$(39) & " 5" & chr$(34)

and then executed a statement of :
DoCmd.RunSQL "Update someTable SET fieldname = '" & strText & "' WHERE
someField = someValue"

Won't this generate an error because the DoCmd.RunSQL will get confused
with the mixture of quotes and double quotes?

Thanks,
Joe Rojas
IT Manager
TNCO, Inc.
781-447-6661 x7506
jrojas at tnco-inc.com


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of John Skolits
Sent: Wednesday, November 01, 2006 3:05 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Dealing with single quotes and double quotes at
thesametime

Here's an example

strText = "1" & chr$(39) & " 5" & chr$(34)

In this case strText would return - 1' 5"

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Joe Rojas
Sent: Wednesday, November 01, 2006 2:37 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: [AccessD] Dealing with single quotes and double quotes at the
sametime

Hello,

If I construct a string in VBA that contains the following string:
1' 5"

How could I update a field using DoCmd.RunSQL?
I know how to handle this if the string only contains a single quote OR
a double quote but not if the string contains both.

Thanks,
Joe Rojas
IT Manager
TNCO, Inc.
781-447-6661 x7506
jrojas at tnco-inc.com
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From gjgiever at myway.com  Wed Nov  1 15:27:24 2006
From: gjgiever at myway.com (Gary J. Giever)
Date: Wed,  1 Nov 2006 16:27:24 -0500 (EST)
Subject: [AccessD] Find And Replace
Message-ID: <20061101212724.BDE7B99DFD@mprdmxin.myway.com>


Thanks.  I shall be patient.


Gary J. Giever, M.A.
Applications Developer
ACCMHS



 --- On Wed 11/01, Heenan, Lambert < Lambert.Heenan at aig.com > wrote:
From: Heenan, Lambert [mailto: Lambert.Heenan at aig.com]
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Date: Wed, 1 Nov 2006 14:52:26 -0600
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Find And Replace

If I recall correctly, if was a few days before I got my key emailed to metoo (that was a couple of years ago). I might have jogged his elbow with aquick enquiry email.He's a one man band as far as I know, and so may get a bit behind, but it isa great tool, so worth the effort to get it set up.Lambert-----Original Message-----From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of John SkolitsSent: Wednesday, November 01, 2006 2:57 PMTo: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'Subject: Re: [AccessD] Find And ReplacePretty sure he's still in business. He returned an email I sent about 2months ago.p.s. Great program. I use it practically every day. -----Original Message-----From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gary J. GieverSent: Wednesday, November 01, 2006 2:45 PMTo: accessd at databaseadvisors.comSubject: [AccessD] Find And ReplaceLast week someone here 
recommended Rick Fisher's Find And Replace.  I checkit out, liked it and emailed my registration last Monday morning.  Usually,with this kind of transaction, I get a response with a registration numberwithin an hour or so, but it has been more than two days and I have yet tohear from him. Does anyone know if he is still in business?  Gary J. Giever, M.A.Applications DeveloperACCMHS_______________________________________________No banners. No pop-ups. No kidding.Make My Way  your home on the Web - http://www.myway.com-- AccessD mailing listAccessD at databaseadvisors.comhttp://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessdWebsite: http://www.databaseadvisors.com-- AccessD mailing listAccessD at databaseadvisors.comhttp://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessdWebsite: http://www.databaseadvisors.com-- AccessD mailing listAccessD at databaseadvisors.comhttp://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessdWebsite: http://www.databaseadvisors.com

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From dw-murphy at cox.net  Wed Nov  1 15:38:48 2006
From: dw-murphy at cox.net (Doug Murphy)
Date: Wed, 1 Nov 2006 13:38:48 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] Find And Replace
In-Reply-To: <20061101194529.06441676B4@mprdmxin.myway.com>
Message-ID: <002301c6fdfe$1d5d4490$0200a8c0@murphy3234aaf1>

Gary,

I purchased it last week for Access 2003 and got an email response the same
day.  You might want to check with Rick to make sure he received your info.

Doug 

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Sent: Wednesday, November 01, 2006 11:45 AM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [AccessD] Find And Replace


Last week someone here recommended Rick Fisher's Find And Replace.  I check
it out, liked it and emailed my registration last Monday morning.  Usually,
with this kind of transaction, I get a response with a registration number
within an hour or so, but it has been more than two days and I have yet to
hear from him. Does anyone know if he is still in business?
  


Gary J. Giever, M.A.
Applications Developer
ACCMHS

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From stuart at lexacorp.com.pg  Wed Nov  1 15:58:52 2006
From: stuart at lexacorp.com.pg (Stuart McLachlan)
Date: Thu, 02 Nov 2006 07:58:52 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] Dealing with single quotes and double quotes at the
	same time
In-Reply-To: <758E92433C4F3740B67BE4DD369AF5772EDEC3@ex2k3.corp.tnco-inc.com>
References: <758E92433C4F3740B67BE4DD369AF5772EDEC3@ex2k3.corp.tnco-inc.com>
Message-ID: <4549189C.13025.12987464@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>

On 1 Nov 2006 at 14:36, Joe Rojas wrote:

> Hello,
> 
> If I construct a string in VBA that contains the following string:
> 1' 5"
> 
> How could I update a field using DoCmd.RunSQL?
> I know how to handle this if the string only contains a single quote OR a
> double quote but not if the string contains both.

Escape both quotes by doubling them.  Following example has extra spaces to 
show it more clearly, there shouldn't be any spaces between any of the 
quotes.:

strSQL = " Set myfield = ' 1 '  '  5 " "  '   "



-- 
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From stuart at lexacorp.com.pg  Wed Nov  1 16:07:59 2006
From: stuart at lexacorp.com.pg (Stuart McLachlan)
Date: Thu, 02 Nov 2006 08:07:59 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] Posters from Microsoft
In-Reply-To: <s548cdd0.035@cactus.dk>
References: <s548cdd0.035@cactus.dk>
Message-ID: <45491ABF.1678.12A0CE06@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>

On 1 Nov 2006 at 16:39, Gustav Brock wrote:


>  - Developer Roadmap for the 2007 Microsoft Office System. 
>   Download this poster to view a developer roadmap for the 2007 Microsoft
>   Office system programs, tools, services, and servers. 
> 

Why the f... would they wrap a single  600KB PDF file in a full installer 
exe?

But then I guess that's farily standard for MS - just add totally 
unnecessary bloat to everything :-(
 -- 
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From michael at ddisolutions.com.au  Wed Nov  1 16:36:14 2006
From: michael at ddisolutions.com.au (Michael Maddison)
Date: Thu, 2 Nov 2006 09:36:14 +1100
Subject: [AccessD] Ideas wanted for Office project requirements
Message-ID: <59A61174B1F5B54B97FD4ADDE71E7D0116AC70@ddi-01.DDI.local>

 Thanks Charlotte,

They are also looking at Sharepoint as an option.
I think they just want to know what options they have.
I initially proposed a database solution, we also have a live system
that collates various data
from multiple sources to create a govt dept annual report.  We could
have adapted that but
they didn't seem interested.

I put a nice high price on it so we'll see what happens ;-)))

cheers

Michael M


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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Charlotte
Foust
Sent: Thursday, 2 November 2006 3:17 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Ideas wanted for Office project requirements

I rebuilt a system somewhat like that a few years back for the US Bureau
of Reclamation.  They produced a report annually (well, it was SUPPOSED
to be annually) by extracting data from a mainframe dumping it into
Excel, copying and pasting into a Word doc and then (theoretically)
totalling the whole thing up and printing an 80+ page report as mandated
by statute.  You'd be better off giving the managers a run-time Access
app to enter their data, with a button to push to transmit it to a
central location.  Of course, it would be better if they simply linked
to a central back end, but I'm assuming for the moment that isn't
feasible.  Then you need a single app to import the data and
redistribute it into the appropriate tables.  Then just create the
report in Access or do a merge with Word if you want pretty formatting.

You could certainly do it using Office automation, but you would never
have the central data store at hand should a report need tweaking, and
you would have to find a way to cross-foot and validate any values month
by month.

Charlotte Foust 

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Michael
Maddison
Sent: Tuesday, October 31, 2006 6:31 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: [AccessD] Ideas wanted for Office project requirements

 Hi all,

Slightly OT.  

I have a client who wants to automate a report writing process.

Currently they have about 30 managers who once a month send either a
Excel workbook or Word doc to some lucky person.  He/she then extracts
the contents of each file and pastes it into a Word doc to be made into
a report.

I don't do much with Office these days so maybe someone will have an
easy solution???

Step 1
My favoured idea so far is to create a Com-addin for Word/Excel that
will take selected text/objects and paste them into a blank file, the
copy the file to a file share.

Step 2 the person who collates the files has another addin that loops
through the contents of the share dir and opens and copies the contents
into fields/bookmarks(?) in a Word doc.

A 3rd component may be needed to sync the whole schmoozle.


I wonder how sturdy a process like this would be...

All responses welcome (except abuse... lol)

cheers



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From wdhindman at dejpolsystems.com  Wed Nov  1 23:05:34 2006
From: wdhindman at dejpolsystems.com (William Hindman)
Date: Thu, 2 Nov 2006 00:05:34 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Ideas wanted for Office project requirements
References: <59A61174B1F5B54B97FD4ADDE71E7D0116AC70@ddi-01.DDI.local>
Message-ID: <022d01c6fe3c$8796fcf0$3e3de844@50NM721>

Michael

...I've done something similar using an RTF ocx from lebans site ...each of 
the individual reports is actually an rtf formatted text field in a table in 
the be mdb ...each user only sees the portions they are responsible for 
...the final product is a pretty simple report assembling and formatting 
the individual rtf records.

...the rtf format gives the user most of Word's text formatting abilities 
while retaining the advantages of a database and Access' capable report 
writer ...user response has been very positive.

William Hindman

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Michael Maddison" <michael at ddisolutions.com.au>
To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving" 
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Wednesday, November 01, 2006 5:36 PM
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Ideas wanted for Office project requirements


> Thanks Charlotte,
>
> They are also looking at Sharepoint as an option.
> I think they just want to know what options they have.
> I initially proposed a database solution, we also have a live system
> that collates various data
> from multiple sources to create a govt dept annual report.  We could
> have adapted that but
> they didn't seem interested.
>
> I put a nice high price on it so we'll see what happens ;-)))
>
> cheers
>
> Michael M
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Charlotte
> Foust
> Sent: Thursday, 2 November 2006 3:17 AM
> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] Ideas wanted for Office project requirements
>
> I rebuilt a system somewhat like that a few years back for the US Bureau
> of Reclamation.  They produced a report annually (well, it was SUPPOSED
> to be annually) by extracting data from a mainframe dumping it into
> Excel, copying and pasting into a Word doc and then (theoretically)
> totalling the whole thing up and printing an 80+ page report as mandated
> by statute.  You'd be better off giving the managers a run-time Access
> app to enter their data, with a button to push to transmit it to a
> central location.  Of course, it would be better if they simply linked
> to a central back end, but I'm assuming for the moment that isn't
> feasible.  Then you need a single app to import the data and
> redistribute it into the appropriate tables.  Then just create the
> report in Access or do a merge with Word if you want pretty formatting.
>
> You could certainly do it using Office automation, but you would never
> have the central data store at hand should a report need tweaking, and
> you would have to find a way to cross-foot and validate any values month
> by month.
>
> Charlotte Foust
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Michael
> Maddison
> Sent: Tuesday, October 31, 2006 6:31 PM
> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> Subject: [AccessD] Ideas wanted for Office project requirements
>
> Hi all,
>
> Slightly OT.
>
> I have a client who wants to automate a report writing process.
>
> Currently they have about 30 managers who once a month send either a
> Excel workbook or Word doc to some lucky person.  He/she then extracts
> the contents of each file and pastes it into a Word doc to be made into
> a report.
>
> I don't do much with Office these days so maybe someone will have an
> easy solution???
>
> Step 1
> My favoured idea so far is to create a Com-addin for Word/Excel that
> will take selected text/objects and paste them into a blank file, the
> copy the file to a file share.
>
> Step 2 the person who collates the files has another addin that loops
> through the contents of the share dir and opens and copies the contents
> into fields/bookmarks(?) in a Word doc.
>
> A 3rd component may be needed to sync the whole schmoozle.
>
>
> I wonder how sturdy a process like this would be...
>
> All responses welcome (except abuse... lol)
>
> cheers
>
>
>
> Michael M
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From michael at ddisolutions.com.au  Wed Nov  1 23:36:48 2006
From: michael at ddisolutions.com.au (Michael Maddison)
Date: Thu, 2 Nov 2006 16:36:48 +1100
Subject: [AccessD] Ideas wanted for Office project requirements
Message-ID: <59A61174B1F5B54B97FD4ADDE71E7D0116AC75@ddi-01.DDI.local>

 Hi William,

Unfortunately they insist on embedding charts and Excel data in the
final report.
I don't think rtf can handle that can it?
If it does it would make the process a bit less unwieldy, much easier to
move
data around rather then a bunch files.

cheers

Michael M


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of William
Hindman
Sent: Thursday, 2 November 2006 4:06 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Ideas wanted for Office project requirements

Michael

...I've done something similar using an RTF ocx from lebans site ...each
of the individual reports is actually an rtf formatted text field in a
table in the be mdb ...each user only sees the portions they are
responsible for ...the final product is a pretty simple report
assembling and formatting the individual rtf records.

...the rtf format gives the user most of Word's text formatting
abilities while retaining the advantages of a database and Access'
capable report writer ...user response has been very positive.

William Hindman

----- Original Message -----
From: "Michael Maddison" <michael at ddisolutions.com.au>
To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving" 
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Wednesday, November 01, 2006 5:36 PM
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Ideas wanted for Office project requirements


> Thanks Charlotte,
>
> They are also looking at Sharepoint as an option.
> I think they just want to know what options they have.
> I initially proposed a database solution, we also have a live system
> that collates various data
> from multiple sources to create a govt dept annual report.  We could
> have adapted that but
> they didn't seem interested.
>
> I put a nice high price on it so we'll see what happens ;-)))
>
> cheers
>
> Michael M
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Charlotte
> Foust
> Sent: Thursday, 2 November 2006 3:17 AM
> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] Ideas wanted for Office project requirements
>
> I rebuilt a system somewhat like that a few years back for the US
Bureau
> of Reclamation.  They produced a report annually (well, it was
SUPPOSED
> to be annually) by extracting data from a mainframe dumping it into
> Excel, copying and pasting into a Word doc and then (theoretically)
> totalling the whole thing up and printing an 80+ page report as
mandated
> by statute.  You'd be better off giving the managers a run-time Access
> app to enter their data, with a button to push to transmit it to a
> central location.  Of course, it would be better if they simply linked
> to a central back end, but I'm assuming for the moment that isn't
> feasible.  Then you need a single app to import the data and
> redistribute it into the appropriate tables.  Then just create the
> report in Access or do a merge with Word if you want pretty
formatting.
>
> You could certainly do it using Office automation, but you would never
> have the central data store at hand should a report need tweaking, and
> you would have to find a way to cross-foot and validate any values
month
> by month.
>
> Charlotte Foust
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Michael
> Maddison
> Sent: Tuesday, October 31, 2006 6:31 PM
> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> Subject: [AccessD] Ideas wanted for Office project requirements
>
> Hi all,
>
> Slightly OT.
>
> I have a client who wants to automate a report writing process.
>
> Currently they have about 30 managers who once a month send either a
> Excel workbook or Word doc to some lucky person.  He/she then extracts
> the contents of each file and pastes it into a Word doc to be made
into
> a report.
>
> I don't do much with Office these days so maybe someone will have an
> easy solution???
>
> Step 1
> My favoured idea so far is to create a Com-addin for Word/Excel that
> will take selected text/objects and paste them into a blank file, the
> copy the file to a file share.
>
> Step 2 the person who collates the files has another addin that loops
> through the contents of the share dir and opens and copies the
contents
> into fields/bookmarks(?) in a Word doc.
>
> A 3rd component may be needed to sync the whole schmoozle.
>
>
> I wonder how sturdy a process like this would be...
>
> All responses welcome (except abuse... lol)
>
> cheers
>
>
>
> Michael M
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From wdhindman at dejpolsystems.com  Thu Nov  2 00:35:51 2006
From: wdhindman at dejpolsystems.com (William Hindman)
Date: Thu, 2 Nov 2006 01:35:51 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Ideas wanted for Office project requirements
References: <59A61174B1F5B54B97FD4ADDE71E7D0116AC75@ddi-01.DDI.local>
Message-ID: <024901c6fe49$24bfb8d0$3e3de844@50NM721>

...I use subreports to handle very limited charts ...it works within the 
limitations of the Access report engine ...but if you mean actually 
embedding them so that they can be edited in Excel then of course Access 
won't let you do that afaik ...although you can embed urls in the rtf so 
that a separate edit window could be opened and then update the sub reports.

...I believe you can also import an Excel file into Access and then output 
it as rtf although I've not done that myself ...if you can convert it to rtf 
in that way you may well be able to stuff the results into a table field as 
rtf text data ...might be worth experimenting with ...rtf does support tabs 
which are roughly equivalent to columns so it at least sounds feasible.

...you may also want to look at what you can do with adobe's PDF writer

William Hindman
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Michael Maddison" <michael at ddisolutions.com.au>
To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving" 
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Thursday, November 02, 2006 12:36 AM
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Ideas wanted for Office project requirements


> Hi William,
>
> Unfortunately they insist on embedding charts and Excel data in the
> final report.
> I don't think rtf can handle that can it?
> If it does it would make the process a bit less unwieldy, much easier to
> move
> data around rather then a bunch files.
>
> cheers
>
> Michael M
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of William
> Hindman
> Sent: Thursday, 2 November 2006 4:06 PM
> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] Ideas wanted for Office project requirements
>
> Michael
>
> ...I've done something similar using an RTF ocx from lebans site ...each
> of the individual reports is actually an rtf formatted text field in a
> table in the be mdb ...each user only sees the portions they are
> responsible for ...the final product is a pretty simple report
> assembling and formatting the individual rtf records.
>
> ...the rtf format gives the user most of Word's text formatting
> abilities while retaining the advantages of a database and Access'
> capable report writer ...user response has been very positive.
>
> William Hindman
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Michael Maddison" <michael at ddisolutions.com.au>
> To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving"
> <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, November 01, 2006 5:36 PM
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] Ideas wanted for Office project requirements
>
>
>> Thanks Charlotte,
>>
>> They are also looking at Sharepoint as an option.
>> I think they just want to know what options they have.
>> I initially proposed a database solution, we also have a live system
>> that collates various data
>> from multiple sources to create a govt dept annual report.  We could
>> have adapted that but
>> they didn't seem interested.
>>
>> I put a nice high price on it so we'll see what happens ;-)))
>>
>> cheers
>>
>> Michael M
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Charlotte
>> Foust
>> Sent: Thursday, 2 November 2006 3:17 AM
>> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
>> Subject: Re: [AccessD] Ideas wanted for Office project requirements
>>
>> I rebuilt a system somewhat like that a few years back for the US
> Bureau
>> of Reclamation.  They produced a report annually (well, it was
> SUPPOSED
>> to be annually) by extracting data from a mainframe dumping it into
>> Excel, copying and pasting into a Word doc and then (theoretically)
>> totalling the whole thing up and printing an 80+ page report as
> mandated
>> by statute.  You'd be better off giving the managers a run-time Access
>> app to enter their data, with a button to push to transmit it to a
>> central location.  Of course, it would be better if they simply linked
>> to a central back end, but I'm assuming for the moment that isn't
>> feasible.  Then you need a single app to import the data and
>> redistribute it into the appropriate tables.  Then just create the
>> report in Access or do a merge with Word if you want pretty
> formatting.
>>
>> You could certainly do it using Office automation, but you would never
>> have the central data store at hand should a report need tweaking, and
>> you would have to find a way to cross-foot and validate any values
> month
>> by month.
>>
>> Charlotte Foust
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Michael
>> Maddison
>> Sent: Tuesday, October 31, 2006 6:31 PM
>> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
>> Subject: [AccessD] Ideas wanted for Office project requirements
>>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> Slightly OT.
>>
>> I have a client who wants to automate a report writing process.
>>
>> Currently they have about 30 managers who once a month send either a
>> Excel workbook or Word doc to some lucky person.  He/she then extracts
>> the contents of each file and pastes it into a Word doc to be made
> into
>> a report.
>>
>> I don't do much with Office these days so maybe someone will have an
>> easy solution???
>>
>> Step 1
>> My favoured idea so far is to create a Com-addin for Word/Excel that
>> will take selected text/objects and paste them into a blank file, the
>> copy the file to a file share.
>>
>> Step 2 the person who collates the files has another addin that loops
>> through the contents of the share dir and opens and copies the
> contents
>> into fields/bookmarks(?) in a Word doc.
>>
>> A 3rd component may be needed to sync the whole schmoozle.
>>
>>
>> I wonder how sturdy a process like this would be...
>>
>> All responses welcome (except abuse... lol)
>>
>> cheers
>>
>>
>>
>> Michael M
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From gjgiever at myway.com  Thu Nov  2 06:23:29 2006
From: gjgiever at myway.com (Gary J. Giever)
Date: Thu,  2 Nov 2006 07:23:29 -0500 (EST)
Subject: [AccessD] Find And Replace
Message-ID: <20061102122329.E9EB87E45A@mprdmxin.myway.com>


Thanks for the info.


Gary J. Giever, M.A.
Applications Developer
ACCMHS

 --- On Wed 11/01, Doug Murphy < dw-murphy at cox.net > wrote:
From: Doug Murphy [mailto: dw-murphy at cox.net]
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Date: Wed, 1 Nov 2006 13:38:48 -0800
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Find And Replace

Gary,I purchased it last week for Access 2003 and got an email response the sameday.  You might want to check with Rick to make sure he received your info.Doug -----Original Message-----From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gary J. GieverSent: Wednesday, November 01, 2006 11:45 AMTo: accessd at databaseadvisors.comSubject: [AccessD] Find And ReplaceLast week someone here recommended Rick Fisher's Find And Replace.  I checkit out, liked it and emailed my registration last Monday morning.  Usually,with this kind of transaction, I get a response with a registration numberwithin an hour or so, but it has been more than two days and I have yet tohear from him. Does anyone know if he is still in business?  Gary J. Giever, M.A.Applications DeveloperACCMHS_______________________________________________No banners. No pop-ups. No kidding.Make My Way  your home on the Web - http://www.myway.com--AccessD mailing 
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From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com  Thu Nov  2 09:16:06 2006
From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (JWColby)
Date: Thu, 2 Nov 2006 10:16:06 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Installing SBS2003 - was [dba-SQLServer] What is going on
In-Reply-To: <0J830079Q25MQC10@l-daemon>
Message-ID: <005601c6fe91$d27eb4b0$657aa8c0@m6805>

Well, nothing ever goes as planned.  I own SBS 2003.  I started the install
which proceeded as smoothly as any of this ever does, which means plenty of
"the F6 floppy doesn't work, but it doesn't say that, so spend an hour
figuring that out, find the driver on the internet etc.", and "oh I need an
active network controller, and what do you mean you have to install a driver
disk (right in the middle of the install) to give me that" etc.

In the meantime, it gets to some screen where it just informs me that it is
installing active directory.

>As you are not going, right at the start, into Active Directory (workgroups
will work fine), installing Server2003 is as simple as installing XP.

So now it appears that I AM installing active directory, whether I need or
want it or not.  So (from your email) perhaps the install will NOT be as
easy as installing XP?

I am doing a dual boot, installing SBS2003 to the raid 6 D: drive (might as
well use this raid stuff to make the system install more fault tolerant).

I just got to a screen where it is asking me what components I want, things
like server tools, exchange server, fax service.  So what do I need, and
will it "just install" or will it ask me questions which I am not prepared
to answer?

William, you are the one always touting how great SBS is.  Any words of
wisdom on this?

Man I hate this crap!

John W. Colby
Colby Consulting
www.ColbyConsulting.com

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-sqlserver-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-sqlserver-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim
Lawrence
Sent: Wednesday, November 01, 2006 10:12 PM
To: dba-sqlserver at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: Re: [dba-SQLServer] What is going on

Hi John:

As you are not going, right at the start, into Active Directory (workgroups
will work fine), installing Server2003 is as simple as installing XP.. The
whole process tends to be a disk jockey nodding off between switch disk and
answering such questions as, "What is your product key" and do you want to
install IIS. If I can do it so can you.

Server2003 can run multiple instances and processes. It will run
applications that will over-load any XP desktop box. It has better isolation
so if a program misbehaves it does not bring down the system. I understood
you were on the MS partner plan and therefore you should have access to all
the servers you can stand. Server 2003 standard or developer is just fine
unless you are planning to run virtual and exchange server etc.

I have taken the luxury to run Server 2003 as my desktop, one that has never
gone down... Well only once and that was my fault... But it is really
stable. MS SQL and IIS run as background processes and their impact is
hardly noticeable. 

Sorry if this sounds like a lecture but I am sure your problems can be
solved by going this route.    

Jim

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-sqlserver-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-sqlserver-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of JWColby
Sent: Wednesday, November 01, 2006 2:52 PM
To: dba-sqlserver at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: Re: [dba-SQLServer] What is going on

LOL, borderline insanity.  I can assure you that I am FULLY insane.  Bwaaa
haaaa haaaa.  I am using SP Pro.  SQL Server ran just fine on 2K pro, XP Pro
is the 2K Pro base code.  Why would it not run on that?  I keep hearing that
it isn't supposed to, but it does.  I can tell you I would be irritated
beyond belief if I went to Win 2003 server (which I have but haven't a clue
how to install, since this is a desktop machine in the end) and I still had
this issue.

I actually tried to install 2003 server (in fact I have a disk with the
beginnings of the install) and got to questions that implied I was supposed
to know what I was doing (and I don't) so how am I supposed to install 2003
so that I can test your theory?

I am not a notwork / OS admin, I am a developer.  MS themselves push SQL
Server lite as a developer tool.  

If anyone wants to talk me through a 2003 server install I will do that
but...

John W. Colby
Colby Consulting
www.ColbyConsulting.com

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-sqlserver-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-sqlserver-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim
Lawrence
Sent: Wednesday, November 01, 2006 5:19 PM
To: dba-sqlserver at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: Re: [dba-SQLServer] What is going on

Hi John:

I am trying to cover all the bases. The problems initially appears to be
with the MS SQL sever setting as they run fairly indendendantly from an OS.
If the problem is not in the MS SQL setup, accumulating non responsive
results sort of negates the hardware being the issue, then it has to be in
the process. 

If it is absolutely not in the process then it must be in the MS SQL
settings.

Please tell me you are using server OS as it would be border-line insanity
to use a desktop type OS and then I would assure you, without hesitation,
that that is the problem.

HTH
Jim    

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-sqlserver-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-sqlserver-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of JWColby
Sent: Wednesday, November 01, 2006 12:12 PM
To: dba-sqlserver at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: Re: [dba-SQLServer] What is going on

Jim,

I don't understand what this is doing for me.  I have just one data file
ATM.  I don't know whether that is a good thing or a bad thing.  This sounds
like the process for creating and then redistributing data amongst multiple
files.  If you are saying that it is the existence of one huge file that is
causing my slowdown, then I can certainly do that.  



I have to ask if this is as good as it gets with SQL Server.  I understand
that I am doing stuff with big tables but keerimeny.  I started the build of
a PKID field on the big table.  It tells me that "ansi nulls was not on and
it has to rebuild the table" so I do.  EM just locks up tight, won't even
redraw the screen (blank white) if you switch away and back again.  I
believe that it is hard at work but folks, this is the age of threads.

So I open another instance of EM to work with another table.  EM takes
several seconds to expand each tree (server, databases, specific database)
then when I try to expand the tables, the second instance of EM locks up
tight with an hourglass.  I mean c'mon.  This is 2006, a monster (desktop)
system and EM acts as if it is a DOS app from 1986 running on a '286 with 4
megs and swapping memory.  The second EM instance has been trying to open
the tables icon just to show me what tables are there for 20 minutes now.

To say this is discouraging to work with would be an understatement.  If
this is the best I am going to get I am going to have to look for another
database engine to work with.

And the most discouraging part is that my dual proc system is cruising along
using (average?) well under 25% of the processor while EM is locked up
tight.

Does SQl Server 2005 fix any of this?  Or should I just go look at MySQL or
Oracle personal edition.  I have to get work done on this database and it is
telling me that one job (building a field / index) on one table is all it
can handle.  And by the looks of it I will be locked out of this database
for the next 12 to 24 hours.  

Hell, ACCESS can do better than this!!!  Well, maybe not but SQL Server's
rep is taking a beating here.

John W. Colby
Colby Consulting
www.ColbyConsulting.com

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From Gustav at cactus.dk  Thu Nov  2 09:44:42 2006
From: Gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Thu, 02 Nov 2006 16:44:42 +0100
Subject: [AccessD] Installing SBS2003 - was [dba-SQLServer] What
	is	going on
Message-ID: <s54a20a0.063@cactus.dk>

Hi John

I didn't catch your original post, but installing SBS is not "just to do it". Microsoft has training courses in nothing else than this discipline. That said, I'm sure you could handle it following some of the guides around and good advice but at a cost of many hours. 

However, the install wizard will not know what you want. You have to decide.

>From your post it seems like you need only the server OS and SQL Server 2005. That could be established much simpler with "Windows Server 2003 Web Edition" - which is part of your Action Pack - and "SQL Server 2005 Express" which is a free download.

For anyone else being tempted by all the fun stuff in SBS, stop for a moment and consider seriously the hard core Web Edition, which really is a piece of cake to install and leaves a totally clean desktop you will love. Also, consider seriously to run this in a virtual machine like the free edition of VMware Virtual Server - which itself runs perfectly on the Web Edition server. For deployment, a license for "Windows Server 2003 Web Edition" is only slightly more than that for WinXP - and no CALs as it is not a file server.

/gustav

>>> jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com 02-11-2006 16:16:06 >>>
Well, nothing ever goes as planned.  I own SBS 2003.  I started the install
which proceeded as smoothly as any of this ever does, which means plenty of
"the F6 floppy doesn't work, but it doesn't say that, so spend an hour
figuring that out, find the driver on the internet etc.", and "oh I need an
active network controller, and what do you mean you have to install a driver
disk (right in the middle of the install) to give me that" etc.

In the meantime, it gets to some screen where it just informs me that it is
installing active directory.

>As you are not going, right at the start, into Active Directory (workgroups
will work fine), installing Server2003 is as simple as installing XP.

So now it appears that I AM installing active directory, whether I need or
want it or not.  So (from your email) perhaps the install will NOT be as
easy as installing XP?

I am doing a dual boot, installing SBS2003 to the raid 6 D: drive (might as
well use this raid stuff to make the system install more fault tolerant).

I just got to a screen where it is asking me what components I want, things
like server tools, exchange server, fax service.  So what do I need, and
will it "just install" or will it ask me questions which I am not prepared
to answer?

William, you are the one always touting how great SBS is.  Any words of
wisdom on this?

Man I hate this crap!

John W. Colby
Colby Consulting
www.ColbyConsulting.com 



From wdhindman at dejpolsystems.com  Thu Nov  2 10:36:51 2006
From: wdhindman at dejpolsystems.com (William Hindman)
Date: Thu, 2 Nov 2006 11:36:51 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Installing SBS2003 - was [dba-SQLServer] What is
	going on
References: <005601c6fe91$d27eb4b0$657aa8c0@m6805>
Message-ID: <001b01c6fe9d$1a380f80$3e3de844@50NM721>

...lol ...listen up JC ...SBS2003 is NOT xp ...you must plan your install 
and know ahead of time what services you need and how you want to provide 
them ...that said, it is a whole lot simpler than installing the individual 
applications and getting them to work together ...and a whole lot cheaper 
for your client.

...of course, your first step should have been to RTFM :)

...if you have the server resources, just choose every install option ...I'm 
assuming you have two NICs :)

...but if this is something YOU are planning to use in your office for 
anything more than learning purposes, its probably enormous overkill.

...if you have two or more people sending faxes using the same modems, fax 
services will make it easier.

...if you have a group of people who can use shared calendaring, scheduling, 
contacts, and e-mail, Exchange will make it happen ...but in my office, I 
use OE because Exchange requires Outlook and it is such a resource hog 
...but hey, if you have the resources, its the best groupware going despite 
Gustav's enamoration with Novell :)

...I belong to a listserve, sbs2k on yahoo groups that is very active and 
quite similar to AccessD ...and very tolerant of newbies ...a number of mvps 
hang out there ...despite its name, sbs2k3 is the topic of choice.

...I love SBS and in small offices of 5-25 people it just can't be beat 
...stable as a rock once installed and a real pleasure to support because it 
really doesn't require much :)

...but if you really don't need it, don't install it ...gustav is right 
about their being simpler alternatives for SOHOs that don't need the array 
that SBS provides ...and no matter what you want, if its an MS server, you 
will learn Active Directory ...actually much simpler than it looks at first 
glance ...most of it happens behind the scenes.

William Hindman

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "JWColby" <jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com>
To: <dba-sqlserver at databaseadvisors.com>; "'Access Developers discussion and 
problem solving'" <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Thursday, November 02, 2006 10:16 AM
Subject: [AccessD] Installing SBS2003 - was [dba-SQLServer] What is going on


> Well, nothing ever goes as planned.  I own SBS 2003.  I started the 
> install
> which proceeded as smoothly as any of this ever does, which means plenty 
> of
> "the F6 floppy doesn't work, but it doesn't say that, so spend an hour
> figuring that out, find the driver on the internet etc.", and "oh I need 
> an
> active network controller, and what do you mean you have to install a 
> driver
> disk (right in the middle of the install) to give me that" etc.
>
> In the meantime, it gets to some screen where it just informs me that it 
> is
> installing active directory.
>
>>As you are not going, right at the start, into Active Directory 
>>(workgroups
> will work fine), installing Server2003 is as simple as installing XP.
>
> So now it appears that I AM installing active directory, whether I need or
> want it or not.  So (from your email) perhaps the install will NOT be as
> easy as installing XP?
>
> I am doing a dual boot, installing SBS2003 to the raid 6 D: drive (might 
> as
> well use this raid stuff to make the system install more fault tolerant).
>
> I just got to a screen where it is asking me what components I want, 
> things
> like server tools, exchange server, fax service.  So what do I need, and
> will it "just install" or will it ask me questions which I am not prepared
> to answer?
>
> William, you are the one always touting how great SBS is.  Any words of
> wisdom on this?
>
> Man I hate this crap!
>
> John W. Colby
> Colby Consulting
> www.ColbyConsulting.com
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: dba-sqlserver-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:dba-sqlserver-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim
> Lawrence
> Sent: Wednesday, November 01, 2006 10:12 PM
> To: dba-sqlserver at databaseadvisors.com
> Subject: Re: [dba-SQLServer] What is going on
>
> Hi John:
>
> As you are not going, right at the start, into Active Directory 
> (workgroups
> will work fine), installing Server2003 is as simple as installing XP.. The
> whole process tends to be a disk jockey nodding off between switch disk 
> and
> answering such questions as, "What is your product key" and do you want to
> install IIS. If I can do it so can you.
>
> Server2003 can run multiple instances and processes. It will run
> applications that will over-load any XP desktop box. It has better 
> isolation
> so if a program misbehaves it does not bring down the system. I understood
> you were on the MS partner plan and therefore you should have access to 
> all
> the servers you can stand. Server 2003 standard or developer is just fine
> unless you are planning to run virtual and exchange server etc.
>
> I have taken the luxury to run Server 2003 as my desktop, one that has 
> never
> gone down... Well only once and that was my fault... But it is really
> stable. MS SQL and IIS run as background processes and their impact is
> hardly noticeable.
>
> Sorry if this sounds like a lecture but I am sure your problems can be
> solved by going this route.
>
> Jim
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: dba-sqlserver-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:dba-sqlserver-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of JWColby
> Sent: Wednesday, November 01, 2006 2:52 PM
> To: dba-sqlserver at databaseadvisors.com
> Subject: Re: [dba-SQLServer] What is going on
>
> LOL, borderline insanity.  I can assure you that I am FULLY insane.  Bwaaa
> haaaa haaaa.  I am using SP Pro.  SQL Server ran just fine on 2K pro, XP 
> Pro
> is the 2K Pro base code.  Why would it not run on that?  I keep hearing 
> that
> it isn't supposed to, but it does.  I can tell you I would be irritated
> beyond belief if I went to Win 2003 server (which I have but haven't a 
> clue
> how to install, since this is a desktop machine in the end) and I still 
> had
> this issue.
>
> I actually tried to install 2003 server (in fact I have a disk with the
> beginnings of the install) and got to questions that implied I was 
> supposed
> to know what I was doing (and I don't) so how am I supposed to install 
> 2003
> so that I can test your theory?
>
> I am not a notwork / OS admin, I am a developer.  MS themselves push SQL
> Server lite as a developer tool.
>
> If anyone wants to talk me through a 2003 server install I will do that
> but...
>
> John W. Colby
> Colby Consulting
> www.ColbyConsulting.com
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: dba-sqlserver-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:dba-sqlserver-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim
> Lawrence
> Sent: Wednesday, November 01, 2006 5:19 PM
> To: dba-sqlserver at databaseadvisors.com
> Subject: Re: [dba-SQLServer] What is going on
>
> Hi John:
>
> I am trying to cover all the bases. The problems initially appears to be
> with the MS SQL sever setting as they run fairly indendendantly from an 
> OS.
> If the problem is not in the MS SQL setup, accumulating non responsive
> results sort of negates the hardware being the issue, then it has to be in
> the process.
>
> If it is absolutely not in the process then it must be in the MS SQL
> settings.
>
> Please tell me you are using server OS as it would be border-line insanity
> to use a desktop type OS and then I would assure you, without hesitation,
> that that is the problem.
>
> HTH
> Jim
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: dba-sqlserver-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:dba-sqlserver-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of JWColby
> Sent: Wednesday, November 01, 2006 12:12 PM
> To: dba-sqlserver at databaseadvisors.com
> Subject: Re: [dba-SQLServer] What is going on
>
> Jim,
>
> I don't understand what this is doing for me.  I have just one data file
> ATM.  I don't know whether that is a good thing or a bad thing.  This 
> sounds
> like the process for creating and then redistributing data amongst 
> multiple
> files.  If you are saying that it is the existence of one huge file that 
> is
> causing my slowdown, then I can certainly do that.
>
>
>
> I have to ask if this is as good as it gets with SQL Server.  I understand
> that I am doing stuff with big tables but keerimeny.  I started the build 
> of
> a PKID field on the big table.  It tells me that "ansi nulls was not on 
> and
> it has to rebuild the table" so I do.  EM just locks up tight, won't even
> redraw the screen (blank white) if you switch away and back again.  I
> believe that it is hard at work but folks, this is the age of threads.
>
> So I open another instance of EM to work with another table.  EM takes
> several seconds to expand each tree (server, databases, specific database)
> then when I try to expand the tables, the second instance of EM locks up
> tight with an hourglass.  I mean c'mon.  This is 2006, a monster (desktop)
> system and EM acts as if it is a DOS app from 1986 running on a '286 with 
> 4
> megs and swapping memory.  The second EM instance has been trying to open
> the tables icon just to show me what tables are there for 20 minutes now.
>
> To say this is discouraging to work with would be an understatement.  If
> this is the best I am going to get I am going to have to look for another
> database engine to work with.
>
> And the most discouraging part is that my dual proc system is cruising 
> along
> using (average?) well under 25% of the processor while EM is locked up
> tight.
>
> Does SQl Server 2005 fix any of this?  Or should I just go look at MySQL 
> or
> Oracle personal edition.  I have to get work done on this database and it 
> is
> telling me that one job (building a field / index) on one table is all it
> can handle.  And by the looks of it I will be locked out of this database
> for the next 12 to 24 hours.
>
> Hell, ACCESS can do better than this!!!  Well, maybe not but SQL Server's
> rep is taking a beating here.
>
> John W. Colby
> Colby Consulting
> www.ColbyConsulting.com
>
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From martyconnelly at shaw.ca  Thu Nov  2 14:43:23 2006
From: martyconnelly at shaw.ca (MartyConnelly)
Date: Thu, 02 Nov 2006 12:43:23 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] Creating Managed Add-ins for Access 2007
In-Reply-To: <001b01c6fe9d$1a380f80$3e3de844@50NM721>
References: <005601c6fe91$d27eb4b0$657aa8c0@m6805>
	<001b01c6fe9d$1a380f80$3e3de844@50NM721>
Message-ID: <454A586B.2000805@shaw.ca>

Interesting article from Ken Getz
Creating Managed Add-ins for Access 2007 
http://msdn2.microsoft.com/en-us/library/aa902693.aspx

You can probably do this without installing Visual Studio Tools
and just VB 2005 express but it might require filching
the Shared Add-in template class and installing with GPAC's
instead of a created msi from a wizard.

-- 
Marty Connelly
Victoria, B.C.
Canada



From Donald.A.McGillivray at sprint.com  Thu Nov  2 15:21:06 2006
From: Donald.A.McGillivray at sprint.com (McGillivray, Don [IT])
Date: Thu, 2 Nov 2006 15:21:06 -0600
Subject: [AccessD] Strategies for populating combo boxes
Message-ID: <EC829B33DF5B5B48A956B7A2E894AA9A0A1B1FCF@PLSWB06C.ad.sprint.com>

Hello, All

I am working on a project where I've been asked to provide an interface that allows users to choose selection criteria from a series of combo boxes and use the results to open one of six reports.  This is a fairly simple database - one table with about 20 columns and 1.1 million rows.  They have already built the queries and reports; all they want me to do is provide an easy way to specify selection criteria for the reports.

Since there is only a single table, building rowsources for the combo boxes requires running summary queries against the various columns for all 1.1 million rows.  With 6 to 10 combo boxes on the form, that creates quite a bit of hang time waiting for the combos to populate.  I'm considering strategies for reducing the delay, one being to populate a series of temp tables at DB open that can be used to populate the combos.  That way the big delay happens only once upon DB start, and the UI should respond more quickly.  I also thought of populating a single temp table with two columns - one to identify the combo box in which the values will be used, and the other with the values themselves.

I seek guidance from the experts.  Are either of these ideas worthy of pursuit?  Is there a better way to get there from here?

Any and all comments, critiques, ideas welcome.

Thanks!

Don McGillivray



From martyconnelly at shaw.ca  Thu Nov  2 15:34:08 2006
From: martyconnelly at shaw.ca (MartyConnelly)
Date: Thu, 02 Nov 2006 13:34:08 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] Strategies for populating combo boxes
In-Reply-To: <EC829B33DF5B5B48A956B7A2E894AA9A0A1B1FCF@PLSWB06C.ad.sprint.com>
References: <EC829B33DF5B5B48A956B7A2E894AA9A0A1B1FCF@PLSWB06C.ad.sprint.com>
Message-ID: <454A6450.1000304@shaw.ca>

One suggestion: Load the form, subform, combobox and listbox
record sources at run-time.

http://www.granite.ab.ca/access/performanceforms.htm

McGillivray, Don [IT] wrote:

>Hello, All
>
>I am working on a project where I've been asked to provide an interface that allows users to choose selection criteria from a series of combo boxes and use the results to open one of six reports.  This is a fairly simple database - one table with about 20 columns and 1.1 million rows.  They have already built the queries and reports; all they want me to do is provide an easy way to specify selection criteria for the reports.
>
>Since there is only a single table, building rowsources for the combo boxes requires running summary queries against the various columns for all 1.1 million rows.  With 6 to 10 combo boxes on the form, that creates quite a bit of hang time waiting for the combos to populate.  I'm considering strategies for reducing the delay, one being to populate a series of temp tables at DB open that can be used to populate the combos.  That way the big delay happens only once upon DB start, and the UI should respond more quickly.  I also thought of populating a single temp table with two columns - one to identify the combo box in which the values will be used, and the other with the values themselves.
>
>I seek guidance from the experts.  Are either of these ideas worthy of pursuit?  Is there a better way to get there from here?
>
>Any and all comments, critiques, ideas welcome.
>
>Thanks!
>
>Don McGillivray
>
>  
>

-- 
Marty Connelly
Victoria, B.C.
Canada



From shamil at users.mns.ru  Thu Nov  2 16:01:14 2006
From: shamil at users.mns.ru (Shamil Salakhetdinov)
Date: Fri, 3 Nov 2006 01:01:14 +0300
Subject: [AccessD] Creating Managed Add-ins for Access 2007
In-Reply-To: <454A586B.2000805@shaw.ca>
Message-ID: <000301c6feca$6a2ada40$6401a8c0@nant>

Yes, Marty, it should be doable just using VB 2005 Express.

<<<
installing with GPAC's instead of a created msi from a wizard.
>>>
Yes, should be doable - but also .NET Framework SDK is needed I think to
extract type library from shared add-in's assembly using TlbExp.exe utility,
which is delivered in SDK or is tlbexp.exe also delivered in .NET Framework
itself?...

BTW, did you ever try to use Registration-Free COM
(http://msdn.microsoft.com/msdnmag/issues/05/04/RegFreeCOM/), which William
mentioned here some time ago?

If that works OK then a Shared/COM Add-in can be probably installed using
xcopy given:

- its assembly and related files;
- its typelib;
- its manifest file for RegFree COM (open question here is how(/what is its
format) to make it?)...

That would be great if it would work this way - it still might need to set
several registry entries to "inform" MS Access about presence of com-add-in
to load but this should be as easy as running once a .reg file with needed
registry entries...

--
Shamil
 
-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of MartyConnelly
Sent: Thursday, November 02, 2006 11:43 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: [AccessD] Creating Managed Add-ins for Access 2007

Interesting article from Ken Getz
Creating Managed Add-ins for Access 2007 
http://msdn2.microsoft.com/en-us/library/aa902693.aspx

You can probably do this without installing Visual Studio Tools
and just VB 2005 express but it might require filching
the Shared Add-in template class and installing with GPAC's
instead of a created msi from a wizard.

-- 
Marty Connelly
Victoria, B.C.
Canada

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From Donald.A.McGillivray at sprint.com  Thu Nov  2 16:15:55 2006
From: Donald.A.McGillivray at sprint.com (McGillivray, Don [IT])
Date: Thu, 2 Nov 2006 16:15:55 -0600
Subject: [AccessD] Strategies for populating combo boxes
Message-ID: <EC829B33DF5B5B48A956B7A2E894AA9A0A1B2140@PLSWB06C.ad.sprint.com>

Thanks, Marty.

I can see how this would reduce db size and speed the saving of the form, but will it speed its loading and response for the user?  Seems like whether I'm saving the queries with the form or not, they will still have to load from the million record table to populate the combos, no?  In my trials so far, it seems like only the initial use of a combo suffers from the delay (subsequent uses are lickety-split).  It just feels like a nuisance to make the user wait for controls on the form if I can speed loading the rowsource by driving it with a more concise table created once at start up.  They will still have to wait for that table to populate, but not so much for each control on the form.

Maybe I'm misunderstanding how this works, and how the suggested approach addresses the issue?

FWIW, the data in this db will be refreshed only about once a quarter, and I suppose I could add a process that they run once upon each refresh that produces the more concise tables for the combo row sources.  That would eliminate/reduce even the startup delays.

Don

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of MartyConnelly
Sent: Thursday, November 02, 2006 1:34 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Strategies for populating combo boxes

One suggestion: Load the form, subform, combobox and listbox
record sources at run-time.

http://www.granite.ab.ca/access/performanceforms.htm




From martyconnelly at shaw.ca  Thu Nov  2 17:37:01 2006
From: martyconnelly at shaw.ca (MartyConnelly)
Date: Thu, 02 Nov 2006 15:37:01 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] Creating Managed Add-ins for Access 2007
In-Reply-To: <000301c6feca$6a2ada40$6401a8c0@nant>
References: <000301c6feca$6a2ada40$6401a8c0@nant>
Message-ID: <454A811D.9090008@shaw.ca>

BTW, did you ever try to use Registration-Free COM
(http://msdn.microsoft.com/msdnmag/issues/05/04/RegFreeCOM/), which William
mentioned here some time ago?

Yup it works calling a VB.Net wrapped com class dll from Access
However the download from the article is missing  a comclass.zip
It is only 2 or 3 K, you need this to build any new classes. It is
installed by Visual Studio but not VB Express. I don't have Visual
Studio  but found it in a .msi file downloadable from this simlar article by
same author below. Just install it in the directory indicated in the 
article then
it will appear in temporary templates in vb.Net IDE. It contains
the COM Class template necessary for building new class projects.
I suppose you could workaround it with your own GUID's but don't
know the pitfuls.

Visual Basic Fusion: Best Practices to Use Visual Basic 6 and Visual
Basic .NET Together

http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/default.asp?url=/library/en-us/dnvs05/html/vbbestprac.asp

 You may have a  problem in the registering of the dll.

Two ways to do this

Install the project and open it in VB.Net, then do a Build this will
register the dll with the com registry. There are step by step
instuctions except for doing the final build in the first article. The 
build will
also create a new tlb file and register the assembly in the GAC and 
register
the dll. There are also standalone routines to do this too.

To use Access set a reference to the tlb file that will be in a
directory like below depending on where you installed the project. C:\Access
files\VBFusion\VB2005\FX20Wrapper\bin\Release\FX20Wrapper.tlb
The tlb will allow Access to see the class definitions and do a compile.

Then just run your routine.

The other way is to use the included  install.bat to register the dll It
uses regasm and gacutil to remove any previously named dll and reinstall
in the registry. Haven't tried this method. See

http://samples.gotdotnet.com/quickstart/howto/doc/Interop/Building_Samples_COM2NET.aspx

install batch file looks like this

regasm 
"C:\WINDOWS\Microsoft.NET\Framework\v2.0.50727\system.windows.forms.dll"

gacutil -u FX20Wrapper
regasm /u "VB2005\FX20Wrapper\bin\Release\FX20Wrapper.dll"

regasm /tlb "VB2005\FX20Wrapper\bin\Release\FX20Wrapper.dll"
gacutil -i "VB2005\FX20Wrapper\bin\Release\FX20Wrapper.dll"


Shamil Salakhetdinov wrote:

>Yes, Marty, it should be doable just using VB 2005 Express.
>
><<<
>installing with GPAC's instead of a created msi from a wizard.
>  
>
>Yes, should be doable - but also .NET Framework SDK is needed I think to
>extract type library from shared add-in's assembly using TlbExp.exe utility,
>which is delivered in SDK or is tlbexp.exe also delivered in .NET Framework
>itself?...
>
>BTW, did you ever try to use Registration-Free COM
>(http://msdn.microsoft.com/msdnmag/issues/05/04/RegFreeCOM/), which William
>mentioned here some time ago?
>
>If that works OK then a Shared/COM Add-in can be probably installed using
>xcopy given:
>
>- its assembly and related files;
>- its typelib;
>- its manifest file for RegFree COM (open question here is how(/what is its
>format) to make it?)...
>
>That would be great if it would work this way - it still might need to set
>several registry entries to "inform" MS Access about presence of com-add-in
>to load but this should be as easy as running once a .reg file with needed
>registry entries...
>
>--
>Shamil
> 
>-----Original Message-----
>From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of MartyConnelly
>Sent: Thursday, November 02, 2006 11:43 PM
>To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
>Subject: [AccessD] Creating Managed Add-ins for Access 2007
>
>Interesting article from Ken Getz
>Creating Managed Add-ins for Access 2007 
>http://msdn2.microsoft.com/en-us/library/aa902693.aspx
>
>You can probably do this without installing Visual Studio Tools
>and just VB 2005 express but it might require filching
>the Shared Add-in template class and installing with GPAC's
>instead of a created msi from a wizard.
>
>  
>

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From gjgiever at myway.com  Thu Nov  2 18:29:55 2006
From: gjgiever at myway.com (Gary J. Giever)
Date: Thu,  2 Nov 2006 19:29:55 -0500 (EST)
Subject: [AccessD] Find And Replace
Message-ID: <20061103002955.2043E67675@mprdmxin.myway.com>


He emailed me today.  Apparently his first reply made an unsucessful attempt to travel through the Burmuda Triange.

Thanks again for your help.


Gary J. Giever, M.A.
Applications Developer
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 --- On Thu 11/02, Gary J. Giever < gjgiever at myway.com > wrote:
From: Gary J. Giever [mailto: gjgiever at myway.com]
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Date: Thu,  2 Nov 2006 07:23:29 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Find And Replace

Thanks for the info.Gary J. Giever, M.A.Applications DeveloperACCMHS --- On Wed 11/01, Doug Murphy < dw-murphy at cox.net > wrote:From: Doug Murphy [mailto: dw-murphy at cox.net]To: accessd at databaseadvisors.comDate: Wed, 1 Nov 2006 13:38:48 -0800Subject: Re: [AccessD] Find And ReplaceGary,I purchased it last week for Access 2003 and got an email response the sameday.  You might want to check with Rick to make sure he received your info.Doug -----Original Message-----From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gary J. GieverSent: Wednesday, November 01, 2006 11:45 AMTo: accessd at databaseadvisors.comSubject: [AccessD] Find And ReplaceLast week someone here recommended Rick Fisher's Find And Replace.  I checkit out, liked it and emailed my registration last Monday morning.  Usually,with this kind of transaction, I get a response with a registration numberwithin an hour or so, but it has been more than two days and I have yet 
tohear from him. Does anyone know if he is still in business?  Gary J. Giever, M.A.Applications DeveloperACCMHS_______________________________________________No banners. No pop-ups. No kidding.Make My Way  your home on the Web - http://www.myway.com--AccessD mailing listAccessD at databaseadvisors.comhttp://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessdWebsite: http://www.databaseadvisors.com-- AccessD mailing listAccessD at databaseadvisors.comhttp://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessdWebsite: http://www.databaseadvisors.com_______________________________________________No banners. No pop-ups. No kidding.Make My Way  your home on the Web - http://www.myway.com-- AccessD mailing listAccessD at databaseadvisors.comhttp://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessdWebsite: http://www.databaseadvisors.com

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From newsgrps at dalyn.co.nz  Thu Nov  2 22:28:11 2006
From: newsgrps at dalyn.co.nz (David Emerson)
Date: Fri, 03 Nov 2006 17:28:11 +1300
Subject: [AccessD] Changing Rowsource for Graph (Sproc source)
Message-ID: <7.0.1.0.0.20061103171432.01b52d28@dalyn.co.nz>

Group,

Access XP ADP

I have a report that has a single graph on it (Unbound Object Frame: 
Microsoft Graph Chart).  The RowSource property is set to a sproc 
which has parameters.

If I enter the following direct into the RowSource property the 
report runs fine:
EXEC sprptPipeGateForecastMth 1085207198, '2006-11-01', '2007-10-01'

However, I want to set the parameters based on values on a form.  The 
help I found on the internet said that the reports OnOpen event was 
the place to put it so I added:

Me!graGraph.RowSource = "EXEC sprptPipeGateForecastMth " & 
[Forms]![frmPipeWeldForecast]!cboGateIDNo & ", '" & 
basConvertDate(basFirstMthDay([Forms]![frmPipeWeldForecast]![txtGateMthStartMth])) 
& "', '" & 
basConvertDate(basFirstMthDay([Forms]![frmPipeWeldForecast]![txtGateMthEndMth])) 
& "'"

When the report is run I get Runtime Error 2455 - You entered an 
expression that has an invalid reference to the property 
RowSource.  I get the same error if I try in the OnOpen event of the 
report (this indicates that the property is not even available OnOpen):

MsgBox Reports!rptPipeGateForecastMth!graGraph.RowSource

I know the property exists because the following works it I put it 
into the report detail OnFormat event:
MsgBox Me!graGraph.RowSource

I have tried setting the property on the detail OnFormat event but an 
error comes up saying that you cant set this property after printing 
has started.

Any guidance on what I can try?




From andy at minstersystems.co.uk  Fri Nov  3 02:09:49 2006
From: andy at minstersystems.co.uk (Andy Lacey)
Date: Fri, 3 Nov 2006 08:09:49 -0000
Subject: [AccessD] Changing Rowsource for Graph (Sproc source)
In-Reply-To: <7.0.1.0.0.20061103171432.01b52d28@dalyn.co.nz>
Message-ID: <00bb01c6ff1f$6f502430$e5ad0c54@minster33c3r25>

Hi David
I seem to recall having the same issue a long while ago. I was using queries
and ended up setting the graph's rowsource to a query but modifying the
query's SQL before opening the report. Not being an SQL kind of guy I don't
know how that translates when you have Sprocs, or if it can at all, but I'm
hoping that gives you a steer.

-- Andy Lacey
http://www.minstersystems.co.uk 

> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com 
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of 
> David Emerson
> Sent: 03 November 2006 04:28
> To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
> Subject: [AccessD] Changing Rowsource for Graph (Sproc source)
> 
> 
> Group,
> 
> Access XP ADP
> 
> I have a report that has a single graph on it (Unbound Object Frame: 
> Microsoft Graph Chart).  The RowSource property is set to a sproc 
> which has parameters.
> 
> If I enter the following direct into the RowSource property the 
> report runs fine:
> EXEC sprptPipeGateForecastMth 1085207198, '2006-11-01', '2007-10-01'
> 
> However, I want to set the parameters based on values on a form.  The 
> help I found on the internet said that the reports OnOpen event was 
> the place to put it so I added:
> 
> Me!graGraph.RowSource = "EXEC sprptPipeGateForecastMth " & 
> [Forms]![frmPipeWeldForecast]!cboGateIDNo & ", '" & 
> basConvertDate(basFirstMthDay([Forms]![frmPipeWeldForecast]![t
> xtGateMthStartMth])) 
> & "', '" & 
> basConvertDate(basFirstMthDay([Forms]![frmPipeWeldForecast]![t
> xtGateMthEndMth])) 
> & "'"
> 
> When the report is run I get Runtime Error 2455 - You entered an 
> expression that has an invalid reference to the property 
> RowSource.  I get the same error if I try in the OnOpen event of the 
> report (this indicates that the property is not even 
> available OnOpen):
> 
> MsgBox Reports!rptPipeGateForecastMth!graGraph.RowSource
> 
> I know the property exists because the following works it I put it 
> into the report detail OnFormat event:
> MsgBox Me!graGraph.RowSource
> 
> I have tried setting the property on the detail OnFormat event but an 
> error comes up saying that you cant set this property after printing 
> has started.
> 
> Any guidance on what I can try?
> 
> 
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From artful at rogers.com  Fri Nov  3 03:06:52 2006
From: artful at rogers.com (artful at rogers.com)
Date: Fri, 3 Nov 2006 01:06:52 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [AccessD] Strategies for populating combo boxes
Message-ID: <20061103090653.70671.qmail@web88206.mail.re2.yahoo.com>

My suggestion would be, Don't populate any of the combos until at least one keystroke has been entered in a given combo. Then populate it. I.e. the user enters "A", then you populate it with only those rows beginning with "A". The user then enters "B"; you repopulate it with those rows beginning with "AB". The user enters "C" and you repopulate the combo beginning with "ABC". This can be very quick. Assuming an Access BE, then the query that populates any given combo would be something like "SELECT ID, Description FROM SomeTable WHERE Description LIKE "ABC*". The way I have handled this in previous apps is to rewrite the source statement, which automatically causes a refill.

----- Original Message ----
From: "McGillivray, Don [IT]" <Donald.A.McGillivray at sprint.com>
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Thursday, November 2, 2006 4:21:06 PM
Subject: [AccessD] Strategies for populating combo boxes

Hello, All

I am working on a project where I've been asked to provide an interface that allows users to choose selection criteria from a series of combo boxes and use the results to open one of six reports.  This is a fairly simple database - one table with about 20 columns and 1.1 million rows.  They have already built the queries and reports; all they want me to do is provide an easy way to specify selection criteria for the reports.

Since there is only a single table, building rowsources for the combo boxes requires running summary queries against the various columns for all 1.1 million rows.  With 6 to 10 combo boxes on the form, that creates quite a bit of hang time waiting for the combos to populate.  I'm considering strategies for reducing the delay, one being to populate a series of temp tables at DB open that can be used to populate the combos.  That way the big delay happens only once upon DB start, and the UI should respond more quickly.  I also thought of populating a single temp table with two columns - one to identify the combo box in which the values will be used, and the other with the values themselves.

I seek guidance from the experts.  Are either of these ideas worthy of pursuit?  Is there a better way to get there from here?

Any and all comments, critiques, ideas welcome.

Thanks!

Don McGillivray

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From askolits at ot.com  Fri Nov  3 07:33:39 2006
From: askolits at ot.com (John Skolits)
Date: Fri, 3 Nov 2006 08:33:39 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Changing Rowsource for Graph (Sproc source)
In-Reply-To: <00bb01c6ff1f$6f502430$e5ad0c54@minster33c3r25>
Message-ID: <004901c6ff4c$af6dbdc0$6501a8c0@LaptopXP>

A long shot ideas. 

Use CHR$(39) instead of the single quote.
Not sure the syntax is exactly correct or not but here is what I came up
with.

"EXEC sprptPipeGateForecastMth " & [Forms]![frmPipeWeldForecast]!cboGateIDNo
& ", " & Chr$(39) 
& basConvertDate(basFirstMthDay([Forms]![frmPipeWeldForecast]![t
xtGateMthStartMth])) & Chr$(39) & ", " & Chr$(39) &
"basConvertDate(basFirstMthDay([Forms]![frmPipeWeldForecast]![txtGateMthEndM
th])) " & Chr$(39)


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Andy Lacey
Sent: Friday, November 03, 2006 3:10 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Changing Rowsource for Graph (Sproc source)

Hi David
I seem to recall having the same issue a long while ago. I was using queries
and ended up setting the graph's rowsource to a query but modifying the
query's SQL before opening the report. Not being an SQL kind of guy I don't
know how that translates when you have Sprocs, or if it can at all, but I'm
hoping that gives you a steer.

-- Andy Lacey
http://www.minstersystems.co.uk 

> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com 
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of 
> David Emerson
> Sent: 03 November 2006 04:28
> To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
> Subject: [AccessD] Changing Rowsource for Graph (Sproc source)
> 
> 
> Group,
> 
> Access XP ADP
> 
> I have a report that has a single graph on it (Unbound Object Frame: 
> Microsoft Graph Chart).  The RowSource property is set to a sproc 
> which has parameters.
> 
> If I enter the following direct into the RowSource property the 
> report runs fine:
> EXEC sprptPipeGateForecastMth 1085207198, '2006-11-01', '2007-10-01'
> 
> However, I want to set the parameters based on values on a form.  The 
> help I found on the internet said that the reports OnOpen event was 
> the place to put it so I added:
> 
> Me!graGraph.RowSource = "EXEC sprptPipeGateForecastMth " & 
> [Forms]![frmPipeWeldForecast]!cboGateIDNo & ", '" & 
> basConvertDate(basFirstMthDay([Forms]![frmPipeWeldForecast]![t
> xtGateMthStartMth])) 
> & "', '" & 
> basConvertDate(basFirstMthDay([Forms]![frmPipeWeldForecast]![t
> xtGateMthEndMth])) 
> & "'"
> 
> When the report is run I get Runtime Error 2455 - You entered an 
> expression that has an invalid reference to the property 
> RowSource.  I get the same error if I try in the OnOpen event of the 
> report (this indicates that the property is not even 
> available OnOpen):
> 
> MsgBox Reports!rptPipeGateForecastMth!graGraph.RowSource
> 
> I know the property exists because the following works it I put it 
> into the report detail OnFormat event:
> MsgBox Me!graGraph.RowSource
> 
> I have tried setting the property on the detail OnFormat event but an 
> error comes up saying that you cant set this property after printing 
> has started.
> 
> Any guidance on what I can try?
> 
> 
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From accessd666 at yahoo.com  Fri Nov  3 07:42:05 2006
From: accessd666 at yahoo.com (Sad Der)
Date: Fri, 3 Nov 2006 05:42:05 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [AccessD] OT: ASP.Net Opening Access 2003 reports?
Message-ID: <20061103134205.28298.qmail@web31607.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Hi Jim,

This sounds really nice. Do you happen to have a link to that article?

Sander

----- Original Message ----
From: Jim DeMarco <Jdemarco at hudsonhealthplan.org>
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Tuesday, October 31, 2006 5:00:10 PM
Subject: Re: [AccessD] OT: ASP.Net Opening Access 2003 reports?

Sander,

I read an interestig article a while back that detailed how to use
Access as the reporting engine for ASP.NET applications.  In short it
involves getting input from your user and running the report in Access
(installed on server I'd imagine).  The report is then exported to XML
from Access by your .NET app.  Access does a real good job of creating
XML/XSL so the reports will look like Access reports.

I hope that makes sense (and helps). 


Jim DeMarco

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Sad Der
Sent: Tuesday, October 31, 2006 9:18 AM
To: Acces User Group
Subject: [AccessD] OT: ASP.Net Opening Access 2003 reports?

Hi group,

does anybody know how difficult it is to open a report in an Access 2003
database using Asp.Net?
We're using an intranet and VPN. So that shouldn't be the big issue.

Thnx in @vance.

Regards,

Sander




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From gjgiever at myway.com  Fri Nov  3 08:12:25 2006
From: gjgiever at myway.com (Gary J. Giever)
Date: Fri,  3 Nov 2006 09:12:25 -0500 (EST)
Subject: [AccessD] Simple SQL Statement
Message-ID: <20061103141225.387BE99F02@mprdmxin.myway.com>


I'm setting up a program that must make a copy of a table (dbo_CLIENTMAST)in a different application then make one of the fields in the new table a primary key.  Making the copy is easy but changing the field to a primary key is causing me some problems.  I've tried various SQL statements but none have worked.  This is my last attempt and it seems like it should work but I get the message "Syntax error in CONSTRAINT clause."  tblClientMaster is the new table.

ALTER TABLE tblClientMaster ADD CONSTRAINT UNIQUE (CCASE_NO);

Any help would be much appreciated.


Gary J. Giever, M.A.
Applications Developer
ACCMHS


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From Jdemarco at hudsonhealthplan.org  Fri Nov  3 08:28:44 2006
From: Jdemarco at hudsonhealthplan.org (Jim DeMarco)
Date: Fri, 3 Nov 2006 09:28:44 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] OT: ASP.Net Opening Access 2003 reports?
Message-ID: <08F823FD83787D4BA0B99CA580AD3C740464AB07@TTNEXCHCL2.hshhp.com>

It must be your luck day.  This was in the May 2003 issue of Smart
Access but it looks like M$ posted it in total at:

http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/default.asp?url=/library/en-us/dnsmart
03/html/sa03e1.asp

I find it a most interesting idea. 


Jim

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Sad Der
Sent: Friday, November 03, 2006 8:42 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] OT: ASP.Net Opening Access 2003 reports?

Hi Jim,

This sounds really nice. Do you happen to have a link to that article?

Sander

----- Original Message ----
From: Jim DeMarco <Jdemarco at hudsonhealthplan.org>
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Tuesday, October 31, 2006 5:00:10 PM
Subject: Re: [AccessD] OT: ASP.Net Opening Access 2003 reports?

Sander,

I read an interestig article a while back that detailed how to use
Access as the reporting engine for ASP.NET applications.  In short it
involves getting input from your user and running the report in Access
(installed on server I'd imagine).  The report is then exported to XML
from Access by your .NET app.  Access does a real good job of creating
XML/XSL so the reports will look like Access reports.

I hope that makes sense (and helps). 


Jim DeMarco

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Sad Der
Sent: Tuesday, October 31, 2006 9:18 AM
To: Acces User Group
Subject: [AccessD] OT: ASP.Net Opening Access 2003 reports?

Hi group,

does anybody know how difficult it is to open a report in an Access 2003
database using Asp.Net?
We're using an intranet and VPN. So that shouldn't be the big issue.

Thnx in @vance.

Regards,

Sander




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From accessd at shaw.ca  Fri Nov  3 08:33:55 2006
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Fri, 03 Nov 2006 06:33:55 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] Creating Managed Add-ins for Access 2007
In-Reply-To: <454A811D.9090008@shaw.ca>
Message-ID: <0J85001TESE3YOG0@l-daemon>

Great stuff Marty....

There does seem to be a number of considerations, before using this 
http://msdn.microsoft.com/msdnmag/issues/05/04/RegFreeCOM/default.aspx?loc=&
side=true#a
..and it is available at:
http://download.microsoft.com/download/2/e/9/2e9bde04-3af1-4814-9f1e-733f732
369a3/RegFreeCOM.exe

Just a comment
Jim 

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of MartyConnelly
Sent: Thursday, November 02, 2006 3:37 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Creating Managed Add-ins for Access 2007

BTW, did you ever try to use Registration-Free COM
(http://msdn.microsoft.com/msdnmag/issues/05/04/RegFreeCOM/), which William
mentioned here some time ago?

Yup it works calling a VB.Net wrapped com class dll from Access However the
download from the article is missing  a comclass.zip It is only 2 or 3 K,
you need this to build any new classes. It is installed by Visual Studio but
not VB Express. I don't have Visual Studio  but found it in a .msi file
downloadable from this simlar article by same author below. Just install it
in the directory indicated in the article then it will appear in temporary
templates in vb.Net IDE. It contains the COM Class template necessary for
building new class projects.
I suppose you could workaround it with your own GUID's but don't know the
pitfuls.

Visual Basic Fusion: Best Practices to Use Visual Basic 6 and Visual Basic
.NET Together

http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/default.asp?url=/library/en-us/dnvs05/html
/vbbestprac.asp

 You may have a  problem in the registering of the dll.

Two ways to do this

Install the project and open it in VB.Net, then do a Build this will
register the dll with the com registry. There are step by step instuctions
except for doing the final build in the first article. The build will also
create a new tlb file and register the assembly in the GAC and register the
dll. There are also standalone routines to do this too.

To use Access set a reference to the tlb file that will be in a directory
like below depending on where you installed the project. C:\Access
files\VBFusion\VB2005\FX20Wrapper\bin\Release\FX20Wrapper.tlb
The tlb will allow Access to see the class definitions and do a compile.

Then just run your routine.

The other way is to use the included  install.bat to register the dll It
uses regasm and gacutil to remove any previously named dll and reinstall in
the registry. Haven't tried this method. See

http://samples.gotdotnet.com/quickstart/howto/doc/Interop/Building_Samples_C
OM2NET.aspx

install batch file looks like this

regasm
"C:\WINDOWS\Microsoft.NET\Framework\v2.0.50727\system.windows.forms.dll"

gacutil -u FX20Wrapper
regasm /u "VB2005\FX20Wrapper\bin\Release\FX20Wrapper.dll"

regasm /tlb "VB2005\FX20Wrapper\bin\Release\FX20Wrapper.dll"
gacutil -i "VB2005\FX20Wrapper\bin\Release\FX20Wrapper.dll"


Shamil Salakhetdinov wrote:

>Yes, Marty, it should be doable just using VB 2005 Express.
>
><<<
>installing with GPAC's instead of a created msi from a wizard.
>  
>
>Yes, should be doable - but also .NET Framework SDK is needed I think 
>to extract type library from shared add-in's assembly using TlbExp.exe 
>utility, which is delivered in SDK or is tlbexp.exe also delivered in 
>.NET Framework itself?...
>
>BTW, did you ever try to use Registration-Free COM 
>(http://msdn.microsoft.com/msdnmag/issues/05/04/RegFreeCOM/), which 
>William mentioned here some time ago?
>
>If that works OK then a Shared/COM Add-in can be probably installed 
>using xcopy given:
>
>- its assembly and related files;
>- its typelib;
>- its manifest file for RegFree COM (open question here is how(/what is 
>its
>format) to make it?)...
>
>That would be great if it would work this way - it still might need to 
>set several registry entries to "inform" MS Access about presence of 
>com-add-in to load but this should be as easy as running once a .reg 
>file with needed registry entries...
>
>--
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> 
>-----Original Message-----
>From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of 
>MartyConnelly
>Sent: Thursday, November 02, 2006 11:43 PM
>To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
>Subject: [AccessD] Creating Managed Add-ins for Access 2007
>
>Interesting article from Ken Getz
>Creating Managed Add-ins for Access 2007 
>http://msdn2.microsoft.com/en-us/library/aa902693.aspx
>
>You can probably do this without installing Visual Studio Tools and 
>just VB 2005 express but it might require filching the Shared Add-in 
>template class and installing with GPAC's instead of a created msi from 
>a wizard.
>
>  
>

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From Gustav at cactus.dk  Fri Nov  3 08:42:18 2006
From: Gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Fri, 03 Nov 2006 15:42:18 +0100
Subject: [AccessD] Simple SQL Statement
Message-ID: <s54b636e.012@cactus.dk>

Hi Gary

Try applying a name for the index:

ALTER TABLE tblClientMaster ADD CONSTRAINT IndexName UNIQUE (CCASE_NO);

or:

ALTER TABLE tblClientMaster ADD CONSTRAINT IndexName PRIMARY KEY (CCASE_NO);

/gustav


>>> gjgiever at myway.com 03-11-2006 15:12:25 >>>

I'm setting up a program that must make a copy of a table (dbo_CLIENTMAST)in a different application then make one of the fields in the new table a primary key.  Making the copy is easy but changing the field to a primary key is causing me some problems.  I've tried various SQL statements but none have worked.  This is my last attempt and it seems like it should work but I get the message "Syntax error in CONSTRAINT clause."  tblClientMaster is the new table.

ALTER TABLE tblClientMaster ADD CONSTRAINT UNIQUE (CCASE_NO);

Any help would be much appreciated.


Gary J. Giever, M.A.
Applications Developer
ACCMHS



From Gustav at cactus.dk  Fri Nov  3 08:59:38 2006
From: Gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Fri, 03 Nov 2006 15:59:38 +0100
Subject: [AccessD] OT: ASP.Net Opening Access 2003 reports?
Message-ID: <s54b678b.014@cactus.dk>

Hi Jim

Thanks for that link, very useful.

You may add that the article, in general, describes how to export a report to editable XML which could be useful in other scenarios.

/gustav

>>> Jdemarco at hudsonhealthplan.org 03-11-2006 15:28:44 >>>
It must be your luck day.  This was in the May 2003 issue of Smart
Access but it looks like M$ posted it in total at:

http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/default.asp?url=/library/en-us/dnsmart03/html/sa03e1.asp

I find it a most interesting idea. 


Jim

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com 
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Sad Der
Sent: Friday, November 03, 2006 8:42 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] OT: ASP.Net Opening Access 2003 reports?

Hi Jim,

This sounds really nice. Do you happen to have a link to that article?

Sander

----- Original Message ----
From: Jim DeMarco <Jdemarco at hudsonhealthplan.org>
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Tuesday, October 31, 2006 5:00:10 PM
Subject: Re: [AccessD] OT: ASP.Net Opening Access 2003 reports?

Sander,

I read an interestig article a while back that detailed how to use
Access as the reporting engine for ASP.NET applications.  In short it
involves getting input from your user and running the report in Access
(installed on server I'd imagine).  The report is then exported to XML
from Access by your .NET app.  Access does a real good job of creating
XML/XSL so the reports will look like Access reports.

I hope that makes sense (and helps). 


Jim DeMarco

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com 
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Sad Der
Sent: Tuesday, October 31, 2006 9:18 AM
To: Acces User Group
Subject: [AccessD] OT: ASP.Net Opening Access 2003 reports?

Hi group,

does anybody know how difficult it is to open a report in an Access 2003
database using Asp.Net?
We're using an intranet and VPN. So that shouldn't be the big issue.

Thnx in @vance.

Regards,

Sander



From gjgiever at myway.com  Fri Nov  3 09:27:32 2006
From: gjgiever at myway.com (Gary J. Giever)
Date: Fri,  3 Nov 2006 10:27:32 -0500 (EST)
Subject: [AccessD] Simple SQL Statement
Message-ID: <20061103152732.67F2967680@mprdmxin.myway.com>


YES!  That did it.  Thank you very much.


Gary J. Giever, M.A.
Applications Developer
ACCMHS


 --- On Fri 11/03, Gustav Brock < Gustav at cactus.dk > wrote:
From: Gustav Brock [mailto: Gustav at cactus.dk]
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Date: Fri, 03 Nov 2006 15:42:18 +0100
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Simple SQL Statement

Hi GaryTry applying a name for the index:ALTER TABLE tblClientMaster ADD CONSTRAINT IndexName UNIQUE (CCASE_NO);or:ALTER TABLE tblClientMaster ADD CONSTRAINT IndexName PRIMARY KEY (CCASE_NO);/gustav>>> gjgiever at myway.com 03-11-2006 15:12:25 >>>I'm setting up a program that must make a copy of a table (dbo_CLIENTMAST)in a different application then make one of the fields in the new table a primary key.  Making the copy is easy but changing the field to a primary key is causing me some problems.  I've tried various SQL statements but none have worked.  This is my last attempt and it seems like it should work but I get the message "Syntax error in CONSTRAINT clause."  tblClientMaster is the new table.ALTER TABLE tblClientMaster ADD CONSTRAINT UNIQUE (CCASE_NO);Any help would be much appreciated.Gary J. Giever, M.A.Applications DeveloperACCMHS-- AccessD mailing listAccessD at databaseadvisors.comhttp://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessdWebsite: 
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From gregsmith at starband.net  Fri Nov  3 10:45:36 2006
From: gregsmith at starband.net (Greg Smith)
Date: Fri, 3 Nov 2006 10:45:36 -0600
Subject: [AccessD]  XML Import into Access 2003 (2nd retry w/o html)
Message-ID: <000001c6ff67$88527ee0$130a000a@DadsDell>


 (This is a second resend - my first one was html to illustrate the color
layout for ease of reading the XML, but it turns out to be too large, so
here it is in text only format)

Hi everyone!  It's been a while, or seems like it anyway!  Hope everyone is
well.

Below is a valid XML file, according to the shown DTD, except for the part
inside the <Docmuent> elements, which is normally image in b64 code, but
unnecessary for this example.

I know that Access does not like attribute-centric XML and will not import
it (correctly).  I know that it DOES like element-centric XML and WILL
import that.  I think (which can be dangerous) that what I have below is
attribute-centric, or some version of it, because, looking at examples from
Microsoft of element-centric XML, this does not look like it.  However,
looking at Microsoft's attribute-centric XML, it doesn't look like that
either.  Closer, but not like this.  

What I really need to do is import the data from this file into Access (I'm
using 2003).  Now, I could just read the file as a text file, and strip out
what I want, but that's not terribly efficient and might prove difficult to
do when there are duplicated element names or attribute fields.  

Ideally, I would like to be able to just directly import the xml data, using
a schema or some other document that can define this file, or convert it to
element-centric XML, for Access to accept.

Does anyone know how to do this or done this before or have some pointers I
could use to get me started in the right direction?  The creators of this
beast have NO experience with Access or Access databases so are of no help
in this matter.  My tax dollars at work.  L

Thanks in advance!!!

Greg

Valid XML File for the stated dtd-(watch for wrapping and alignment issues
with this type of file and text):

<!DOCTYPE REQUEST_GROUP SYSTEM 

"http://iowalandrecords.org/portal/dtd/CLRIS_PRIA_Request.dtd">
<REQUEST_GROUP>
  <REQUESTING_PARTY/>
   <RECEIVING_PARTY/>
    <SUBMITTING_PARTY/>
     <REQUEST>
                <KEY _Name="SubmissionID" _Value="4281"/>
                <KEY _Name="GroupName" _Value="JFB_Exemption20060831"/>
                <KEY _Name="SubmissionNumber" _Value="000000061000004281"/>
 
<PRIA_REQUEST_Type="Other"_TypeOtherDescription="ESubmission">
      	<PACKAGE>
            <PRIA_DOCUMENT _Code="" _NonRecordableIndicator="N" _Type="Deed"
_InstrumentDate="20060831" _CountyOfRecordationName="Scott"
_StateOfRecordationName="IA">
            <GRANTOR _FirstName="First" _MiddleName="mi" _LastName="Last"
_NameSuffix="" _UnparsedName="Last First mi" _Capacity=""
_NonPersonEntityIndicator="N"/>
            <GRANTEE _Capacity="" _NonPersonEntityIndicator="N"/>
            <PARTIES>
            <_RETURN_TO_PARTY>
            <NON_PERSON_ENTITY_DETAIL/>
            <CONTACT_DETAIL/>
            </_RETURN_TO_PARTY>
            </PARTIES>
            <EXECUTION/>
            <RECORDING_ENDORSEMENT>
            <_VOLUME_PAGE/>
            <_FEES _TotalAmount="31.00">
            <_FEE _Amount="15.00" _Description="StandardFee"/>
            <_FEE _Amount="3.00" _Description="DocMgmtFee"/>
            <_FEE _Amount="3.00" _Description="ERecordingFee"/>
            <_FEE _Amount="10.00" _Description="TransferFee"/>
            <_FEE _Amount="0.00" _Description="TransferTax"/>
            </_FEES>
            <_EXEMPTIONS _Description="Deed fulfilling contract"/>
            </RECORDING_ENDORSEMENT>
            <EMBEDDED_FILE _Description="" _EncodingType="B64Encode"
_ID="4421" _Name="Cert.pdf" _NumberOfPages="1">
            <DOCUMENT>-BLAH  - IMAGE FILE - BLAH BLAH ==</DOCUMENT>
           </EMBEDDED_FILE>
          </PRIA_DOCUMENT>
         </PACKAGE>
        </PRIA_REQUEST>
       </REQUEST>
</REQUEST_GROUP>





From markamatte at hotmail.com  Fri Nov  3 10:59:24 2006
From: markamatte at hotmail.com (Mark A Matte)
Date: Fri, 03 Nov 2006 16:59:24 +0000
Subject: [AccessD] Access to web
Message-ID: <BAY127-F20016D0BD346B1CE2EF406D2FE0@phx.gbl>

Hello All,

I would consider myself quite competent in SQL, VBA, and Access.  With that 
in mind...I would like to learn to create secure web based apps(convert some 
of my old Access dbs to web).

I need some direction as to what I should start learning/researching to 
accomplish this.  Any ideas, suggestions, or recommendations would be 
greatly appreciated.  I'm just not sure where to begin.

Thanks,

Mark A. Matte

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From newsgrps at dalyn.co.nz  Fri Nov  3 13:20:20 2006
From: newsgrps at dalyn.co.nz (David Emerson)
Date: Sat, 04 Nov 2006 08:20:20 +1300
Subject: [AccessD] Changing Rowsource for Graph (Sproc source)
In-Reply-To: <004901c6ff4c$af6dbdc0$6501a8c0@LaptopXP>
References: <00bb01c6ff1f$6f502430$e5ad0c54@minster33c3r25>
	<004901c6ff4c$af6dbdc0$6501a8c0@LaptopXP>
Message-ID: <7.0.1.0.0.20061104081814.01a97868@dalyn.co.nz>

Thanks for the suggestion.  However the problem seems to be in having 
the property accessible in the OnOpen event.  I get the same error 
when I try to read the property from there.

David

At 4/11/2006, you wrote:
>A long shot ideas.
>
>Use CHR$(39) instead of the single quote.
>Not sure the syntax is exactly correct or not but here is what I came up
>with.
>
>"EXEC sprptPipeGateForecastMth " & [Forms]![frmPipeWeldForecast]!cboGateIDNo
>& ", " & Chr$(39)
>& basConvertDate(basFirstMthDay([Forms]![frmPipeWeldForecast]![t
>xtGateMthStartMth])) & Chr$(39) & ", " & Chr$(39) &
>"basConvertDate(basFirstMthDay([Forms]![frmPipeWeldForecast]![txtGateMthEndM
>th])) " & Chr$(39)
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Andy Lacey
>Sent: Friday, November 03, 2006 3:10 AM
>To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
>Subject: Re: [AccessD] Changing Rowsource for Graph (Sproc source)
>
>Hi David
>I seem to recall having the same issue a long while ago. I was using queries
>and ended up setting the graph's rowsource to a query but modifying the
>query's SQL before opening the report. Not being an SQL kind of guy I don't
>know how that translates when you have Sprocs, or if it can at all, but I'm
>hoping that gives you a steer.
>
>-- Andy Lacey
>http://www.minstersystems.co.uk
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> > [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of
> > David Emerson
> > Sent: 03 November 2006 04:28
> > To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
> > Subject: [AccessD] Changing Rowsource for Graph (Sproc source)
> >
> >
> > Group,
> >
> > Access XP ADP
> >
> > I have a report that has a single graph on it (Unbound Object Frame:
> > Microsoft Graph Chart).  The RowSource property is set to a sproc
> > which has parameters.
> >
> > If I enter the following direct into the RowSource property the
> > report runs fine:
> > EXEC sprptPipeGateForecastMth 1085207198, '2006-11-01', '2007-10-01'
> >
> > However, I want to set the parameters based on values on a form.  The
> > help I found on the internet said that the reports OnOpen event was
> > the place to put it so I added:
> >
> > Me!graGraph.RowSource = "EXEC sprptPipeGateForecastMth " &
> > [Forms]![frmPipeWeldForecast]!cboGateIDNo & ", '" &
> > basConvertDate(basFirstMthDay([Forms]![frmPipeWeldForecast]![t
> > xtGateMthStartMth]))
> > & "', '" &
> > basConvertDate(basFirstMthDay([Forms]![frmPipeWeldForecast]![t
> > xtGateMthEndMth]))
> > & "'"
> >
> > When the report is run I get Runtime Error 2455 - You entered an
> > expression that has an invalid reference to the property
> > RowSource.  I get the same error if I try in the OnOpen event of the
> > report (this indicates that the property is not even
> > available OnOpen):
> >
> > MsgBox Reports!rptPipeGateForecastMth!graGraph.RowSource
> >
> > I know the property exists because the following works it I put it
> > into the report detail OnFormat event:
> > MsgBox Me!graGraph.RowSource
> >
> > I have tried setting the property on the detail OnFormat event but an
> > error comes up saying that you cant set this property after printing
> > has started.
> >
> > Any guidance on what I can try?



From cfoust at infostatsystems.com  Fri Nov  3 13:23:38 2006
From: cfoust at infostatsystems.com (Charlotte Foust)
Date: Fri, 3 Nov 2006 11:23:38 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] Access to web
In-Reply-To: <BAY127-F20016D0BD346B1CE2EF406D2FE0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <F55048AF7E974F429BB24597D7355EEA1782D5@INFOSERVER04.infostat.local>

Look at web design in VS.Net 2005.  

Charlotte Foust 

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Mark A Matte
Sent: Friday, November 03, 2006 8:59 AM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Access to web

Hello All,

I would consider myself quite competent in SQL, VBA, and Access.  With
that in mind...I would like to learn to create secure web based
apps(convert some of my old Access dbs to web).

I need some direction as to what I should start learning/researching to
accomplish this.  Any ideas, suggestions, or recommendations would be
greatly appreciated.  I'm just not sure where to begin.

Thanks,

Mark A. Matte

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From accessd at shaw.ca  Fri Nov  3 13:30:46 2006
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Fri, 03 Nov 2006 11:30:46 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] Access to web
In-Reply-To: <BAY127-F20016D0BD346B1CE2EF406D2FE0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <0J8600A8964T0WC0@l-daemon>

Hi Mark:

Your first option is to decide which language you what to become an expert
with...a Web based language. This assume you have a basic or better
knowledge with creating web pages. (html, css, JavaScript, xml)

The large standards are: Perl(cgi), java, PHP, ASP, ASP.Net and there is
python, ruby. All except ASP and ASP.Net are open source but you would
probably be most familiar with the structures of these two... ASP Lite and
PRO.

There is always Access ADP which I am totally unfamiliar with as there has
always been rumors of its immediate demise for going on more 5 years now....

Jim   

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Mark A Matte
Sent: Friday, November 03, 2006 8:59 AM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Access to web

Hello All,

I would consider myself quite competent in SQL, VBA, and Access.  With that
in mind...I would like to learn to create secure web based apps(convert some
of my old Access dbs to web).

I need some direction as to what I should start learning/researching to
accomplish this.  Any ideas, suggestions, or recommendations would be
greatly appreciated.  I'm just not sure where to begin.

Thanks,

Mark A. Matte

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From martyconnelly at shaw.ca  Fri Nov  3 14:02:13 2006
From: martyconnelly at shaw.ca (MartyConnelly)
Date: Fri, 03 Nov 2006 12:02:13 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] Access to web
In-Reply-To: <BAY127-F20016D0BD346B1CE2EF406D2FE0@phx.gbl>
References: <BAY127-F20016D0BD346B1CE2EF406D2FE0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <454BA045.1070103@shaw.ca>

I would look at some of the introductary AJAX sites
this comprises css html xml and javascript. or the use of ASP.Net
depending on your clients.

For security I would make myself familar with SQL Injection attacks
and cross site scripting.

Mark A Matte wrote:

>Hello All,
>
>I would consider myself quite competent in SQL, VBA, and Access.  With that 
>in mind...I would like to learn to create secure web based apps(convert some 
>of my old Access dbs to web).
>
>I need some direction as to what I should start learning/researching to 
>accomplish this.  Any ideas, suggestions, or recommendations would be 
>greatly appreciated.  I'm just not sure where to begin.
>
>Thanks,
>
>Mark A. Matte
>  
>

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From markamatte at hotmail.com  Fri Nov  3 14:08:13 2006
From: markamatte at hotmail.com (Mark A Matte)
Date: Fri, 03 Nov 2006 20:08:13 +0000
Subject: [AccessD] Access to web
In-Reply-To: <F55048AF7E974F429BB24597D7355EEA1782D5@INFOSERVER04.infostat.local>
Message-ID: <BAY127-F156F0802D25C8F2019440CD2FE0@phx.gbl>

Thanks Charlotte...just to make sure...we're talking about one of the items 
listed below?...or do you think I would need a combination of them...thanks, 
Mark

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>From: "Charlotte Foust" <cfoust at infostatsystems.com>
>Reply-To: Access Developers discussion and problem 
>solving<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
>To: "Access Developers discussion and problem 
>solving"<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
>Subject: Re: [AccessD] Access to web
>Date: Fri, 3 Nov 2006 11:23:38 -0800
>
>Look at web design in VS.Net 2005.
>
>Charlotte Foust
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Mark A Matte
>Sent: Friday, November 03, 2006 8:59 AM
>To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
>Subject: Re: [AccessD] Access to web
>
>Hello All,
>
>I would consider myself quite competent in SQL, VBA, and Access.  With
>that in mind...I would like to learn to create secure web based
>apps(convert some of my old Access dbs to web).
>
>I need some direction as to what I should start learning/researching to
>accomplish this.  Any ideas, suggestions, or recommendations would be
>greatly appreciated.  I'm just not sure where to begin.
>
>Thanks,
>
>Mark A. Matte
>
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From markamatte at hotmail.com  Fri Nov  3 14:20:08 2006
From: markamatte at hotmail.com (Mark A Matte)
Date: Fri, 03 Nov 2006 20:20:08 +0000
Subject: [AccessD] Access to web
In-Reply-To: <0J8600A8964T0WC0@l-daemon>
Message-ID: <BAY127-F38C3A2A39B11C521DC8687D2FE0@phx.gbl>

Marty and Jim,

Thanks for the feedback.  I have heard of almost everyting mentioned(and 
will be researching each)..And that is the question I'm trying to 
answer...which one to pick?

I'm still not sure what criteria I should use to pick a language?

Thanks,

Mark A. Matte


>From: Jim Lawrence <accessd at shaw.ca>
>Reply-To: Access Developers discussion and problem 
>solving<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
>To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem 
>solving'"<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
>Subject: Re: [AccessD] Access to web
>Date: Fri, 03 Nov 2006 11:30:46 -0800
>
>Hi Mark:
>
>Your first option is to decide which language you what to become an expert
>with...a Web based language. This assume you have a basic or better
>knowledge with creating web pages. (html, css, JavaScript, xml)
>
>The large standards are: Perl(cgi), java, PHP, ASP, ASP.Net and there is
>python, ruby. All except ASP and ASP.Net are open source but you would
>probably be most familiar with the structures of these two... ASP Lite and
>PRO.
>
>There is always Access ADP which I am totally unfamiliar with as there has
>always been rumors of its immediate demise for going on more 5 years 
>now....
>
>Jim
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Mark A Matte
>Sent: Friday, November 03, 2006 8:59 AM
>To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
>Subject: Re: [AccessD] Access to web
>
>Hello All,
>
>I would consider myself quite competent in SQL, VBA, and Access.  With that
>in mind...I would like to learn to create secure web based apps(convert 
>some
>of my old Access dbs to web).
>
>I need some direction as to what I should start learning/researching to
>accomplish this.  Any ideas, suggestions, or recommendations would be
>greatly appreciated.  I'm just not sure where to begin.
>
>Thanks,
>
>Mark A. Matte
>
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From DWUTKA at marlow.com  Fri Nov  3 14:24:42 2006
From: DWUTKA at marlow.com (DWUTKA at marlow.com)
Date: Fri, 3 Nov 2006 14:24:42 -0600 
Subject: [AccessD] Strategies for populating combo boxes
Message-ID: <17724746D360394AA3BFE5B8D40A9C1B0139AF9C@MARLOW_MAIN2.marlow.com>

Build a collection, pull the records once to fill the collection, then
populate the combos from a Callback function (which would get the data from
the collection, vs. the recordset)

Drew

-----Original Message-----
From: McGillivray, Don [IT] [mailto:Donald.A.McGillivray at sprint.com] 
Sent: Thursday, November 02, 2006 3:21 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: [AccessD] Strategies for populating combo boxes

Hello, All

I am working on a project where I've been asked to provide an interface that
allows users to choose selection criteria from a series of combo boxes and
use the results to open one of six reports.  This is a fairly simple
database - one table with about 20 columns and 1.1 million rows.  They have
already built the queries and reports; all they want me to do is provide an
easy way to specify selection criteria for the reports.

Since there is only a single table, building rowsources for the combo boxes
requires running summary queries against the various columns for all 1.1
million rows.  With 6 to 10 combo boxes on the form, that creates quite a
bit of hang time waiting for the combos to populate.  I'm considering
strategies for reducing the delay, one being to populate a series of temp
tables at DB open that can be used to populate the combos.  That way the big
delay happens only once upon DB start, and the UI should respond more
quickly.  I also thought of populating a single temp table with two columns
- one to identify the combo box in which the values will be used, and the
other with the values themselves.

I seek guidance from the experts.  Are either of these ideas worthy of
pursuit?  Is there a better way to get there from here?

Any and all comments, critiques, ideas welcome.

Thanks!

Don McGillivray

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From spikee at oatlandspark.org.uk  Fri Nov  3 14:49:34 2006
From: spikee at oatlandspark.org.uk (Chris Foote (Spike))
Date: Fri, 3 Nov 2006 20:49:34 -0000
Subject: [AccessD] Access to web
In-Reply-To: <BAY127-F20016D0BD346B1CE2EF406D2FE0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <200611032049.kA3Knpq22197@databaseadvisors.com>

Hi Mark!

I've been playing with HTML for about eight years now, and consider myself
to be fairly competent.  I've also been using Access and VBA for more or
less the same period. About 18 months or so ago I decided to take the plunge
and convert some of my static sites to use dynamic database-generated pages.
As my chosen web hosting company is Linux/Apache based I chose the MySQL/PHP
route.

I found the "conversion" from Access/VBA to MySQL/PHP very easy. I am not
trained as a programmer (I'm an electronics hardware engineer) but many of
the skills/techniques/disciplines (most learnt from this list) translated
well.

Hope this helps!

Best regards
Chris Foote

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[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Mark A Matte
Sent: 03 November 2006 16:59
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Access to web

Hello All,

I would consider myself quite competent in SQL, VBA, and Access.  With that
in mind...I would like to learn to create secure web based apps(convert some
of my old Access dbs to web).

I need some direction as to what I should start learning/researching to
accomplish this.  Any ideas, suggestions, or recommendations would be
greatly appreciated.  I'm just not sure where to begin.

Thanks,

Mark A. Matte

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From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com  Fri Nov  3 14:50:29 2006
From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (JWColby)
Date: Fri, 3 Nov 2006 15:50:29 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Strategies for populating combo boxes
In-Reply-To: <17724746D360394AA3BFE5B8D40A9C1B0139AF9C@MARLOW_MAIN2.marlow.com>
Message-ID: <00ba01c6ff89$b30fd700$657aa8c0@m6805>

Drew,

I was going to suggest this, however IIRC (and I was going to test this the
other day), collections are limited to 2^15 items in the collection (~32 k
items).  I seem to remember that he has some large tables. 


John W. Colby
Colby Consulting
www.ColbyConsulting.com

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of DWUTKA at marlow.com
Sent: Friday, November 03, 2006 3:25 PM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Strategies for populating combo boxes

Build a collection, pull the records once to fill the collection, then
populate the combos from a Callback function (which would get the data from
the collection, vs. the recordset)

Drew

-----Original Message-----
From: McGillivray, Don [IT] [mailto:Donald.A.McGillivray at sprint.com]
Sent: Thursday, November 02, 2006 3:21 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: [AccessD] Strategies for populating combo boxes

Hello, All

I am working on a project where I've been asked to provide an interface that
allows users to choose selection criteria from a series of combo boxes and
use the results to open one of six reports.  This is a fairly simple
database - one table with about 20 columns and 1.1 million rows.  They have
already built the queries and reports; all they want me to do is provide an
easy way to specify selection criteria for the reports.

Since there is only a single table, building rowsources for the combo boxes
requires running summary queries against the various columns for all 1.1
million rows.  With 6 to 10 combo boxes on the form, that creates quite a
bit of hang time waiting for the combos to populate.  I'm considering
strategies for reducing the delay, one being to populate a series of temp
tables at DB open that can be used to populate the combos.  That way the big
delay happens only once upon DB start, and the UI should respond more
quickly.  I also thought of populating a single temp table with two columns
- one to identify the combo box in which the values will be used, and the
other with the values themselves.

I seek guidance from the experts.  Are either of these ideas worthy of
pursuit?  Is there a better way to get there from here?

Any and all comments, critiques, ideas welcome.

Thanks!

Don McGillivray

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From dw-murphy at cox.net  Fri Nov  3 15:37:17 2006
From: dw-murphy at cox.net (Doug Murphy)
Date: Fri, 3 Nov 2006 13:37:17 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] Access to web
In-Reply-To: <BAY127-F156F0802D25C8F2019440CD2FE0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <003b01c6ff90$3c03e6e0$0200a8c0@murphy3234aaf1>

Check out Visual Web Developer Express on the Microsoft site.  It's free and
is an extrodinary tool for developing ASP.NET sites.

Doug 

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Mark A Matte
Sent: Friday, November 03, 2006 12:08 PM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Access to web

Thanks Charlotte...just to make sure...we're talking about one of the items
listed below?...or do you think I would need a combination of them...thanks,
Mark

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>From: "Charlotte Foust" <cfoust at infostatsystems.com>
>Reply-To: Access Developers discussion and problem 
>solving<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
>To: "Access Developers discussion and problem 
>solving"<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
>Subject: Re: [AccessD] Access to web
>Date: Fri, 3 Nov 2006 11:23:38 -0800
>
>Look at web design in VS.Net 2005.
>
>Charlotte Foust
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Mark A Matte
>Sent: Friday, November 03, 2006 8:59 AM
>To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
>Subject: Re: [AccessD] Access to web
>
>Hello All,
>
>I would consider myself quite competent in SQL, VBA, and Access.  With 
>that in mind...I would like to learn to create secure web based 
>apps(convert some of my old Access dbs to web).
>
>I need some direction as to what I should start learning/researching to 
>accomplish this.  Any ideas, suggestions, or recommendations would be 
>greatly appreciated.  I'm just not sure where to begin.
>
>Thanks,
>
>Mark A. Matte
>
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From DWUTKA at marlow.com  Fri Nov  3 15:42:47 2006
From: DWUTKA at marlow.com (DWUTKA at marlow.com)
Date: Fri, 3 Nov 2006 15:42:47 -0600 
Subject: [AccessD] Strategies for populating combo boxes
Message-ID: <17724746D360394AA3BFE5B8D40A9C1B0139AFC5@MARLOW_MAIN2.marlow.com>

Combos are limited to 65k. But I just whipped together a quick routine to
add a long integer to a collection.  In debug mode, without external
indication of how fast it was going, I stopped it for after about 20
seconds, and it had millions in the collection already.  Populating the
display with the collections count property ran over 65k in about a minute.
I would say the limit is closer to 2^31.

Drew

-----Original Message-----
From: JWColby [mailto:jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com] 
Sent: Friday, November 03, 2006 2:50 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Strategies for populating combo boxes

Drew,

I was going to suggest this, however IIRC (and I was going to test this the
other day), collections are limited to 2^15 items in the collection (~32 k
items).  I seem to remember that he has some large tables. 


John W. Colby
Colby Consulting
www.ColbyConsulting.com

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of DWUTKA at marlow.com
Sent: Friday, November 03, 2006 3:25 PM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Strategies for populating combo boxes

Build a collection, pull the records once to fill the collection, then
populate the combos from a Callback function (which would get the data from
the collection, vs. the recordset)

Drew

-----Original Message-----
From: McGillivray, Don [IT] [mailto:Donald.A.McGillivray at sprint.com]
Sent: Thursday, November 02, 2006 3:21 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: [AccessD] Strategies for populating combo boxes

Hello, All

I am working on a project where I've been asked to provide an interface that
allows users to choose selection criteria from a series of combo boxes and
use the results to open one of six reports.  This is a fairly simple
database - one table with about 20 columns and 1.1 million rows.  They have
already built the queries and reports; all they want me to do is provide an
easy way to specify selection criteria for the reports.

Since there is only a single table, building rowsources for the combo boxes
requires running summary queries against the various columns for all 1.1
million rows.  With 6 to 10 combo boxes on the form, that creates quite a
bit of hang time waiting for the combos to populate.  I'm considering
strategies for reducing the delay, one being to populate a series of temp
tables at DB open that can be used to populate the combos.  That way the big
delay happens only once upon DB start, and the UI should respond more
quickly.  I also thought of populating a single temp table with two columns
- one to identify the combo box in which the values will be used, and the
other with the values themselves.

I seek guidance from the experts.  Are either of these ideas worthy of
pursuit?  Is there a better way to get there from here?

Any and all comments, critiques, ideas welcome.

Thanks!

Don McGillivray

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From markamatte at hotmail.com  Fri Nov  3 16:05:08 2006
From: markamatte at hotmail.com (Mark A Matte)
Date: Fri, 03 Nov 2006 22:05:08 +0000
Subject: [AccessD] Access to web
Message-ID: <BAY127-F35BB73EB5B91751EDEDDD0D2FE0@phx.gbl>

No that's what I'm talking about...Good old fashion taught myself and it 
works!!!!  Sounds like me...I will definitely research.

Thanks,

Mark A. Matte


>From: "Chris Foote (Spike)" <spikee at oatlandspark.org.uk>
>Reply-To: Access Developers discussion and problem 
>solving<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
>To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem 
>solving'"<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
>Subject: Re: [AccessD] Access to web
>Date: Fri, 3 Nov 2006 20:49:34 -0000
>
>Hi Mark!
>
>I've been playing with HTML for about eight years now, and consider myself
>to be fairly competent.  I've also been using Access and VBA for more or
>less the same period. About 18 months or so ago I decided to take the 
>plunge
>and convert some of my static sites to use dynamic database-generated 
>pages.
>As my chosen web hosting company is Linux/Apache based I chose the 
>MySQL/PHP
>route.
>
>I found the "conversion" from Access/VBA to MySQL/PHP very easy. I am not
>trained as a programmer (I'm an electronics hardware engineer) but many of
>the skills/techniques/disciplines (most learnt from this list) translated
>well.
>
>Hope this helps!
>
>Best regards
>Chris Foote
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Mark A Matte
>Sent: 03 November 2006 16:59
>To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
>Subject: Re: [AccessD] Access to web
>
>Hello All,
>
>I would consider myself quite competent in SQL, VBA, and Access.  With that
>in mind...I would like to learn to create secure web based apps(convert 
>some
>of my old Access dbs to web).
>
>I need some direction as to what I should start learning/researching to
>accomplish this.  Any ideas, suggestions, or recommendations would be
>greatly appreciated.  I'm just not sure where to begin.
>
>Thanks,
>
>Mark A. Matte
>
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From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com  Fri Nov  3 16:17:03 2006
From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (JWColby)
Date: Fri, 3 Nov 2006 17:17:03 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Strategies for populating combo boxes
In-Reply-To: <17724746D360394AA3BFE5B8D40A9C1B0139AFC5@MARLOW_MAIN2.marlow.com>
Message-ID: <00c501c6ff95$cb2b4b60$657aa8c0@m6805>

Cool!  Good to know.  

And are you sure that combos are limited to 65K?  I seem to remember
actually running into the 32K limit, but it was awhile ago so don't sue me
if I'm wrong.  I do know that they slooowed waaaaaay doooowwwwwn at that
size. 

Now you can talk him through a callback function.  There's a subject not for
the faint of heart (at least to truly understand).

John W. Colby
Colby Consulting
www.ColbyConsulting.com

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of DWUTKA at marlow.com
Sent: Friday, November 03, 2006 4:43 PM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Strategies for populating combo boxes

Combos are limited to 65k. But I just whipped together a quick routine to
add a long integer to a collection.  In debug mode, without external
indication of how fast it was going, I stopped it for after about 20
seconds, and it had millions in the collection already.  Populating the
display with the collections count property ran over 65k in about a minute.
I would say the limit is closer to 2^31.

Drew

-----Original Message-----
From: JWColby [mailto:jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com]
Sent: Friday, November 03, 2006 2:50 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Strategies for populating combo boxes

Drew,

I was going to suggest this, however IIRC (and I was going to test this the
other day), collections are limited to 2^15 items in the collection (~32 k
items).  I seem to remember that he has some large tables. 


John W. Colby
Colby Consulting
www.ColbyConsulting.com

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of DWUTKA at marlow.com
Sent: Friday, November 03, 2006 3:25 PM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Strategies for populating combo boxes

Build a collection, pull the records once to fill the collection, then
populate the combos from a Callback function (which would get the data from
the collection, vs. the recordset)

Drew



From JHewson at karta.com  Fri Nov  3 16:22:10 2006
From: JHewson at karta.com (Jim Hewson)
Date: Fri, 3 Nov 2006 16:22:10 -0600
Subject: [AccessD] Strategies for populating combo boxes
Message-ID: <9C382E065F54AE48BC3AA7925DCBB01C04908B19@karta-exc-int.Karta.com>

I ran into the 64k limitation a couple of weeks ago.
The combo box and list box are both limited.
Had a little over 65K list of names... wouldn't show the last 1K or so.
It wasn't very slow, but the users would not have found it except they wanted to find a name starting with Z.

Jim 
jhewson at karta.com
 
-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of JWColby
Sent: Friday, November 03, 2006 4:17 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Strategies for populating combo boxes

Cool!  Good to know.  

And are you sure that combos are limited to 65K?  I seem to remember
actually running into the 32K limit, but it was awhile ago so don't sue me
if I'm wrong.  I do know that they slooowed waaaaaay doooowwwwwn at that
size. 

Now you can talk him through a callback function.  There's a subject not for
the faint of heart (at least to truly understand).

John W. Colby
Colby Consulting
www.ColbyConsulting.com

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of DWUTKA at marlow.com
Sent: Friday, November 03, 2006 4:43 PM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Strategies for populating combo boxes

Combos are limited to 65k. But I just whipped together a quick routine to
add a long integer to a collection.  In debug mode, without external
indication of how fast it was going, I stopped it for after about 20
seconds, and it had millions in the collection already.  Populating the
display with the collections count property ran over 65k in about a minute.
I would say the limit is closer to 2^31.

Drew

-----Original Message-----
From: JWColby [mailto:jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com]
Sent: Friday, November 03, 2006 2:50 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Strategies for populating combo boxes

Drew,

I was going to suggest this, however IIRC (and I was going to test this the
other day), collections are limited to 2^15 items in the collection (~32 k
items).  I seem to remember that he has some large tables. 


John W. Colby
Colby Consulting
www.ColbyConsulting.com

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of DWUTKA at marlow.com
Sent: Friday, November 03, 2006 3:25 PM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Strategies for populating combo boxes

Build a collection, pull the records once to fill the collection, then
populate the combos from a Callback function (which would get the data from
the collection, vs. the recordset)

Drew

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From DWUTKA at marlow.com  Fri Nov  3 16:20:57 2006
From: DWUTKA at marlow.com (DWUTKA at marlow.com)
Date: Fri, 3 Nov 2006 16:20:57 -0600 
Subject: [AccessD] Strategies for populating combo boxes
Message-ID: <17724746D360394AA3BFE5B8D40A9C1B0139AFD8@MARLOW_MAIN2.marlow.com>

Access 97's help file was a pretty easy read to do it, along with a sample
function.

Drew

-----Original Message-----
From: JWColby [mailto:jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com] 
Sent: Friday, November 03, 2006 4:17 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Strategies for populating combo boxes

Cool!  Good to know.  

And are you sure that combos are limited to 65K?  I seem to remember
actually running into the 32K limit, but it was awhile ago so don't sue me
if I'm wrong.  I do know that they slooowed waaaaaay doooowwwwwn at that
size. 

Now you can talk him through a callback function.  There's a subject not for
the faint of heart (at least to truly understand).

John W. Colby
Colby Consulting
www.ColbyConsulting.com

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of DWUTKA at marlow.com
Sent: Friday, November 03, 2006 4:43 PM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Strategies for populating combo boxes

Combos are limited to 65k. But I just whipped together a quick routine to
add a long integer to a collection.  In debug mode, without external
indication of how fast it was going, I stopped it for after about 20
seconds, and it had millions in the collection already.  Populating the
display with the collections count property ran over 65k in about a minute.
I would say the limit is closer to 2^31.

Drew

-----Original Message-----
From: JWColby [mailto:jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com]
Sent: Friday, November 03, 2006 2:50 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Strategies for populating combo boxes

Drew,

I was going to suggest this, however IIRC (and I was going to test this the
other day), collections are limited to 2^15 items in the collection (~32 k
items).  I seem to remember that he has some large tables. 


John W. Colby
Colby Consulting
www.ColbyConsulting.com

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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of DWUTKA at marlow.com
Sent: Friday, November 03, 2006 3:25 PM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Strategies for populating combo boxes

Build a collection, pull the records once to fill the collection, then
populate the combos from a Callback function (which would get the data from
the collection, vs. the recordset)

Drew

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From DWUTKA at marlow.com  Fri Nov  3 16:21:30 2006
From: DWUTKA at marlow.com (DWUTKA at marlow.com)
Date: Fri, 3 Nov 2006 16:21:30 -0600 
Subject: [AccessD] Access to web
Message-ID: <17724746D360394AA3BFE5B8D40A9C1BDD57@MARLOW_MAIN2.marlow.com>

ASP.  It's free.  If you have Windows 2000 or XP, you can install a local
webserver to play with it.  The 'web server' is identical to what you get on
a server, it's just limited by how many people can hit it concurrently.

ASP is just a script language.  Personally, I use Microsoft Script Editor
10, which comes with Front page.  Handy to write both HTML and ASP.

Drew

-----Original Message-----
From: Mark A Matte [mailto:markamatte at hotmail.com]
Sent: Friday, November 03, 2006 2:20 PM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Access to web


Marty and Jim,

Thanks for the feedback.  I have heard of almost everyting mentioned(and 
will be researching each)..And that is the question I'm trying to 
answer...which one to pick?

I'm still not sure what criteria I should use to pick a language?

Thanks,

Mark A. Matte


>From: Jim Lawrence <accessd at shaw.ca>
>Reply-To: Access Developers discussion and problem 
>solving<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
>To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem 
>solving'"<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
>Subject: Re: [AccessD] Access to web
>Date: Fri, 03 Nov 2006 11:30:46 -0800
>
>Hi Mark:
>
>Your first option is to decide which language you what to become an expert
>with...a Web based language. This assume you have a basic or better
>knowledge with creating web pages. (html, css, JavaScript, xml)
>
>The large standards are: Perl(cgi), java, PHP, ASP, ASP.Net and there is
>python, ruby. All except ASP and ASP.Net are open source but you would
>probably be most familiar with the structures of these two... ASP Lite and
>PRO.
>
>There is always Access ADP which I am totally unfamiliar with as there has
>always been rumors of its immediate demise for going on more 5 years 
>now....
>
>Jim
>
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>From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Mark A Matte
>Sent: Friday, November 03, 2006 8:59 AM
>To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
>Subject: Re: [AccessD] Access to web
>
>Hello All,
>
>I would consider myself quite competent in SQL, VBA, and Access.  With that
>in mind...I would like to learn to create secure web based apps(convert 
>some
>of my old Access dbs to web).
>
>I need some direction as to what I should start learning/researching to
>accomplish this.  Any ideas, suggestions, or recommendations would be
>greatly appreciated.  I'm just not sure where to begin.
>
>Thanks,
>
>Mark A. Matte
>
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From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com  Fri Nov  3 17:02:06 2006
From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (JWColby)
Date: Fri, 3 Nov 2006 18:02:06 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Strategies for populating combo boxes
In-Reply-To: <17724746D360394AA3BFE5B8D40A9C1B0139AFD8@MARLOW_MAIN2.marlow.com>
Message-ID: <00ca01c6ff9c$16677da0$657aa8c0@m6805>

LOL.  And I did and have, but to actually understand it...  I was trying to
generalize it.  To make a callback where one callback could be used for more
than one object, with more than one datasource.  It got ugly pretty quick.
If you have 500 combos in a big app and wanted to use a callback for many of
them, it gets painful building a new one for each object.

John W. Colby
Colby Consulting
www.ColbyConsulting.com

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of DWUTKA at marlow.com
Sent: Friday, November 03, 2006 5:21 PM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Strategies for populating combo boxes

Access 97's help file was a pretty easy read to do it, along with a sample
function.

Drew

-----Original Message-----
From: JWColby [mailto:jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com]
Sent: Friday, November 03, 2006 4:17 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Strategies for populating combo boxes

Cool!  Good to know.  

And are you sure that combos are limited to 65K?  I seem to remember
actually running into the 32K limit, but it was awhile ago so don't sue me
if I'm wrong.  I do know that they slooowed waaaaaay doooowwwwwn at that
size. 

Now you can talk him through a callback function.  There's a subject not for
the faint of heart (at least to truly understand).

John W. Colby
Colby Consulting
www.ColbyConsulting.com

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of DWUTKA at marlow.com
Sent: Friday, November 03, 2006 4:43 PM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Strategies for populating combo boxes

Combos are limited to 65k. But I just whipped together a quick routine to
add a long integer to a collection.  In debug mode, without external
indication of how fast it was going, I stopped it for after about 20
seconds, and it had millions in the collection already.  Populating the
display with the collections count property ran over 65k in about a minute.
I would say the limit is closer to 2^31.

Drew

-----Original Message-----
From: JWColby [mailto:jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com]
Sent: Friday, November 03, 2006 2:50 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Strategies for populating combo boxes

Drew,

I was going to suggest this, however IIRC (and I was going to test this the
other day), collections are limited to 2^15 items in the collection (~32 k
items).  I seem to remember that he has some large tables. 


John W. Colby
Colby Consulting
www.ColbyConsulting.com

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of DWUTKA at marlow.com
Sent: Friday, November 03, 2006 3:25 PM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Strategies for populating combo boxes

Build a collection, pull the records once to fill the collection, then
populate the combos from a Callback function (which would get the data from
the collection, vs. the recordset)

Drew

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From DWUTKA at marlow.com  Fri Nov  3 17:10:39 2006
From: DWUTKA at marlow.com (DWUTKA at marlow.com)
Date: Fri, 3 Nov 2006 17:10:39 -0600 
Subject: [AccessD] Strategies for populating combo boxes
Message-ID: <17724746D360394AA3BFE5B8D40A9C1B0139AFE8@MARLOW_MAIN2.marlow.com>

Oh, well I only use a callback when it's called for. (pun intended).  Most
common functions of a callback are just fine for 99% of what you need a
combo for.  The callback functionality is best for that other 1%.  For
instance, I wrote a utility that let you print or preview reports in a
database.  Using a value list runs into trouble if you have too many
reports, because it can only be ~2048 characters in length.  A callback did
the trick.

Also in tricky situations, like the one described in this thread, callbacks
provide better control of a combo/listbox.

Drew

-----Original Message-----
From: JWColby [mailto:jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com] 
Sent: Friday, November 03, 2006 5:02 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Strategies for populating combo boxes

LOL.  And I did and have, but to actually understand it...  I was trying to
generalize it.  To make a callback where one callback could be used for more
than one object, with more than one datasource.  It got ugly pretty quick.
If you have 500 combos in a big app and wanted to use a callback for many of
them, it gets painful building a new one for each object.

John W. Colby
Colby Consulting
www.ColbyConsulting.com

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of DWUTKA at marlow.com
Sent: Friday, November 03, 2006 5:21 PM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Strategies for populating combo boxes

Access 97's help file was a pretty easy read to do it, along with a sample
function.

Drew

-----Original Message-----
From: JWColby [mailto:jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com]
Sent: Friday, November 03, 2006 4:17 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Strategies for populating combo boxes

Cool!  Good to know.  

And are you sure that combos are limited to 65K?  I seem to remember
actually running into the 32K limit, but it was awhile ago so don't sue me
if I'm wrong.  I do know that they slooowed waaaaaay doooowwwwwn at that
size. 

Now you can talk him through a callback function.  There's a subject not for
the faint of heart (at least to truly understand).

John W. Colby
Colby Consulting
www.ColbyConsulting.com

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of DWUTKA at marlow.com
Sent: Friday, November 03, 2006 4:43 PM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Strategies for populating combo boxes

Combos are limited to 65k. But I just whipped together a quick routine to
add a long integer to a collection.  In debug mode, without external
indication of how fast it was going, I stopped it for after about 20
seconds, and it had millions in the collection already.  Populating the
display with the collections count property ran over 65k in about a minute.
I would say the limit is closer to 2^31.

Drew

-----Original Message-----
From: JWColby [mailto:jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com]
Sent: Friday, November 03, 2006 2:50 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Strategies for populating combo boxes

Drew,

I was going to suggest this, however IIRC (and I was going to test this the
other day), collections are limited to 2^15 items in the collection (~32 k
items).  I seem to remember that he has some large tables. 


John W. Colby
Colby Consulting
www.ColbyConsulting.com

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of DWUTKA at marlow.com
Sent: Friday, November 03, 2006 3:25 PM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Strategies for populating combo boxes

Build a collection, pull the records once to fill the collection, then
populate the combos from a Callback function (which would get the data from
the collection, vs. the recordset)

Drew

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From stuart at lexacorp.com.pg  Fri Nov  3 17:28:07 2006
From: stuart at lexacorp.com.pg (Stuart McLachlan)
Date: Sat, 04 Nov 2006 09:28:07 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] Access to web
In-Reply-To: <BAY127-F38C3A2A39B11C521DC8687D2FE0@phx.gbl>
References: <0J8600A8964T0WC0@l-daemon>,
	<BAY127-F38C3A2A39B11C521DC8687D2FE0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <454BD087.3169.1D36D481@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>

On 3 Nov 2006 at 20:20, Mark A Matte wrote:

> Marty and Jim,
> 
> Thanks for the feedback.  I have heard of almost everyting mentioned(and
> will be researching each)..And that is the question I'm trying to
> answer...which one to pick?
> 
> I'm still not sure what criteria I should use to pick a language?

The primary criteria is where this will be sited.

If you are usimg an service provider, you are limited to what they support 
My ISP runs on LAMP - Linux, Apache,mySQL, PHP so I can't use ASP there.

If you are setting up your own Intranet on MS servers or have a host that 
supports MS, you'll find ASP has the lowest learning curve with your 
background.

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From martyconnelly at shaw.ca  Fri Nov  3 17:45:08 2006
From: martyconnelly at shaw.ca (MartyConnelly)
Date: Fri, 03 Nov 2006 15:45:08 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] XML Import into Access 2003 (2nd retry w/o html)
In-Reply-To: <000001c6ff67$88527ee0$130a000a@DadsDell>
References: <000001c6ff67$88527ee0$130a000a@DadsDell>
Message-ID: <454BD484.2020903@shaw.ca>

Umm. I won't go on a rant about using DTD's and XML attributes.
I guess this a standard that has been developed by a committee over 10 
years.
I see, they have been discussing switching to the use of xsd schema's 
for 3 years.
When you see a dtd with a self-contained copyright and a disclaimer
that indemnifies against everything including global warning, I head for 
the hills.

However here is why attributes should not be used this way
http://www.xmlfiles.com/xml/xml_attributes.asp

These are some of the problems using attributes:

attributes can not contain multiple values (elements can)
attributes are not expandable (for future changes)
attributes can not describe structures (like child elements can)
attributes are more difficult to manipulate by program code
attribute values are not easy to test against a DTD

If you start using attributes as containers for XML data, you might end
up with documents that are both difficult to maintain and to manipulate.
What I'm trying to say is that you should use elements to describe your 
data.
Use attributes only to provide information that is not relevant to the
reader. Please don't end up like this:

Rules always have exceptions.
You can  assign ID references to elements in my XML documents.
These ID references can be used to access XML element in much the
same way as the NAME or ID attributes in HTML.

A couple of suggestions you might use a product like XMLSPY to do the 
conversion or
 a sister product like MAPForce from Altova, this would be a $5-700 
investment.
I am not sure if it would do all you want.
Good product if working daily with XML.

http://www.altova.com

It would be hard to read this via xmldom, maybe there is code written 
available
via a user group, it would amout to a couple of thousand lines. They may 
have a
an xslt to do the conversion.

You could also easily read via dotNet XMLTextReader class
Maybe write a VB.Net program to do something like this
You would read xml and use a select case to parse your way through.
The XMLTextReader doesn't verify against the DTD however.


<?xml version="1.0"?>
<MMTP>
    <LookUp>
    <ControlType>C1ComboBoxList</ControlType>
    <DBField>LastMedDate</DBField>
    <BookMark></BookMark>
    <ColumnIndex></ColumnIndex>
    <ControlName>cmbGoal5</ControlName>
    <Values VALUE="0" BookMark="Goal5Progress"/>
    <Values VALUE="1" BookMark="Goal5NoProgress"/>
    <Values VALUE="2" BookMark="Goal5NA"/>
</LookUp>
</MMTP>


Private Shared Function FormatXml(ByVal reader As XmlTextReader, ByVal
filename As String) As clsReportElements
Dim ReportElement As clsReportElement
Dim al As new clsReportElements  'ArrayList(117)
Dim lValue as string
Dim lBookmark as String
Try
   ReportElement = New clsReportElement
   While reader.Read()
      Select Case (reader.NodeType)
         Case XmlNodeType.Element
        '''***Other Elements removed for easy reading*****
            If (reader.Name = "Values") Then
               dim isValueAdded as Boolean  = False
               if reader.HasAttributes then
           Do while reader.MoveToNextAttribute ()
                 if len(Reader.Value.Trim) > 0 then
                if Reader.Name = "VALUE" then
                   lValue = Reader.Value
                End If                      
                 end if          
                 if Reader.Name = "BookMark" then
                if len(Reader.Value.Trim) > 0 then
                   lBookmark = Reader.Value.ToString
                   isValueAdded = True  
                end if
                 End If                                
        Loop                            
     End If                        
      if isValueAdded = True then
         ReportElement.AddValue (lValue, lBookmark)
      end if
   End If                      
         case XmlNodeType.EndElement
        If (reader.Name = "LookUp") then
             al.Add(ReportElement)
              ReportElement = New clsReportElement
        End If                
         case xmlnodetype.Attribute
        If (reader.Name = "Values") Then
           ReportElement.AddValue (0, reader.ReadElementString())
        End If                      
         End Select
End While
Return al
Catch ex As Exception
      Console.WriteLine("Operation Failed.")
      Console.WriteLine("Exception: {0}", ex.ToString())
Finally
      'Finished with XmlTextReader
      If Not reader Is Nothing Then
        reader.Close()
      End If
End Try
End Function


Greg Smith wrote:

> (This is a second resend - my first one was html to illustrate the color
>layout for ease of reading the XML, but it turns out to be too large, so
>here it is in text only format)
>
>Hi everyone!  It's been a while, or seems like it anyway!  Hope everyone is
>well.
>
>Below is a valid XML file, according to the shown DTD, except for the part
>inside the <Docmuent> elements, which is normally image in b64 code, but
>unnecessary for this example.
>
>I know that Access does not like attribute-centric XML and will not import
>it (correctly).  I know that it DOES like element-centric XML and WILL
>import that.  I think (which can be dangerous) that what I have below is
>attribute-centric, or some version of it, because, looking at examples from
>Microsoft of element-centric XML, this does not look like it.  However,
>looking at Microsoft's attribute-centric XML, it doesn't look like that
>either.  Closer, but not like this.  
>
>What I really need to do is import the data from this file into Access (I'm
>using 2003).  Now, I could just read the file as a text file, and strip out
>what I want, but that's not terribly efficient and might prove difficult to
>do when there are duplicated element names or attribute fields.  
>
>Ideally, I would like to be able to just directly import the xml data, using
>a schema or some other document that can define this file, or convert it to
>element-centric XML, for Access to accept.
>
>Does anyone know how to do this or done this before or have some pointers I
>could use to get me started in the right direction?  The creators of this
>beast have NO experience with Access or Access databases so are of no help
>in this matter.  My tax dollars at work.  L
>
>Thanks in advance!!!
>
>Greg
>
>Valid XML File for the stated dtd-(watch for wrapping and alignment issues
>with this type of file and text):
>
><!DOCTYPE REQUEST_GROUP SYSTEM 
>
>"http://iowalandrecords.org/portal/dtd/CLRIS_PRIA_Request.dtd">
><REQUEST_GROUP>
>  <REQUESTING_PARTY/>
>   <RECEIVING_PARTY/>
>    <SUBMITTING_PARTY/>
>     <REQUEST>
>                <KEY _Name="SubmissionID" _Value="4281"/>
>                <KEY _Name="GroupName" _Value="JFB_Exemption20060831"/>
>                <KEY _Name="SubmissionNumber" _Value="000000061000004281"/>
> 
><PRIA_REQUEST_Type="Other"_TypeOtherDescription="ESubmission">
>      	<PACKAGE>
>            <PRIA_DOCUMENT _Code="" _NonRecordableIndicator="N" _Type="Deed"
>_InstrumentDate="20060831" _CountyOfRecordationName="Scott"
>_StateOfRecordationName="IA">
>            <GRANTOR _FirstName="First" _MiddleName="mi" _LastName="Last"
>_NameSuffix="" _UnparsedName="Last First mi" _Capacity=""
>_NonPersonEntityIndicator="N"/>
>            <GRANTEE _Capacity="" _NonPersonEntityIndicator="N"/>
>            <PARTIES>
>            <_RETURN_TO_PARTY>
>            <NON_PERSON_ENTITY_DETAIL/>
>            <CONTACT_DETAIL/>
>            </_RETURN_TO_PARTY>
>            </PARTIES>
>            <EXECUTION/>
>            <RECORDING_ENDORSEMENT>
>            <_VOLUME_PAGE/>
>            <_FEES _TotalAmount="31.00">
>            <_FEE _Amount="15.00" _Description="StandardFee"/>
>            <_FEE _Amount="3.00" _Description="DocMgmtFee"/>
>            <_FEE _Amount="3.00" _Description="ERecordingFee"/>
>            <_FEE _Amount="10.00" _Description="TransferFee"/>
>            <_FEE _Amount="0.00" _Description="TransferTax"/>
>            </_FEES>
>            <_EXEMPTIONS _Description="Deed fulfilling contract"/>
>            </RECORDING_ENDORSEMENT>
>            <EMBEDDED_FILE _Description="" _EncodingType="B64Encode"
>_ID="4421" _Name="Cert.pdf" _NumberOfPages="1">
>            <DOCUMENT>-BLAH  - IMAGE FILE - BLAH BLAH ==</DOCUMENT>
>           </EMBEDDED_FILE>
>          </PRIA_DOCUMENT>
>         </PACKAGE>
>        </PRIA_REQUEST>
>       </REQUEST>
></REQUEST_GROUP>
>
>
>
>  
>

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From artful at rogers.com  Fri Nov  3 18:35:45 2006
From: artful at rogers.com (artful at rogers.com)
Date: Fri, 3 Nov 2006 16:35:45 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [AccessD] Access to web
Message-ID: <20061104003545.57918.qmail@web88214.mail.re2.yahoo.com>

Secure, IMO, means that you abandon Access as a back-end and focus on SQL Server or some other server database (MySQL, Oracle, DB/2, PostGres, Sybase, etc.). The security offered in such a platform is superior to that offered by Access. 

Typically, you create roles (groups of equivalent users), and then assign users to roles. You also prevent everyone from directly accessing tables, and allow them access to views, stored procedures and UDFs. You build up a hierarchy of roles, additively (i.e. managers can do everything everyone beneath them can do, but also have rights to do additional thngs such as run reports of salaries.

For the generic web user you create a role WebUser. For employees, you create several roles corresponding to the hierarchy of responsibility. The CEO has, in theory, access to everything, but in practice I am god, not the CEO, because I don't trust him to play safe.

So in a nutshell, if you want to move into web-dev, think SQL Server on the Back End and then choose any Front End that appeals to you (.NET, PHP, Ajax, DreamWeaver, whatever). In all cases the essential thing is to avoid dynamic SQL at all costs, and instead think everything out in stored procedures, views and UDFs.

HTH,
Arthur

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To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Sent: Friday, November 3, 2006 11:59:24 AM
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Access to web

Hello All,

I would consider myself quite competent in SQL, VBA, and Access.  With that 
in mind...I would like to learn to create secure web based apps(convert some 
of my old Access dbs to web).

I need some direction as to what I should start learning/researching to 
accomplish this.  Any ideas, suggestions, or recommendations would be 
greatly appreciated.  I'm just not sure where to begin.

Thanks,

Mark A. Matte

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From martyconnelly at shaw.ca  Fri Nov  3 19:24:35 2006
From: martyconnelly at shaw.ca (MartyConnelly)
Date: Fri, 03 Nov 2006 17:24:35 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] XML Import into Access 2003 (2nd retry w/o html)
In-Reply-To: <000001c6ff67$88527ee0$130a000a@DadsDell>
References: <000001c6ff67$88527ee0$130a000a@DadsDell>
Message-ID: <454BEBD3.8070305@shaw.ca>

Here is another VB.Net  variation that might help
 How Do I...Read XML from an XmlDataDocument?
http://samples.gotdotnet.com/quickstart/howto/doc/Xml/StreamXmlDocument.aspx

I think by rewriting the FormatXML function you could generate Entity 
only XML file


Greg Smith wrote:

> (This is a second resend - my first one was html to illustrate the color
>layout for ease of reading the XML, but it turns out to be too large, so
>here it is in text only format)
>
>Hi everyone!  It's been a while, or seems like it anyway!  Hope everyone is
>well.
>
>Below is a valid XML file, according to the shown DTD, except for the part
>inside the <Docmuent> elements, which is normally image in b64 code, but
>unnecessary for this example.
>
>I know that Access does not like attribute-centric XML and will not import
>it (correctly).  I know that it DOES like element-centric XML and WILL
>import that.  I think (which can be dangerous) that what I have below is
>attribute-centric, or some version of it, because, looking at examples from
>Microsoft of element-centric XML, this does not look like it.  However,
>looking at Microsoft's attribute-centric XML, it doesn't look like that
>either.  Closer, but not like this.  
>
>What I really need to do is import the data from this file into Access (I'm
>using 2003).  Now, I could just read the file as a text file, and strip out
>what I want, but that's not terribly efficient and might prove difficult to
>do when there are duplicated element names or attribute fields.  
>
>Ideally, I would like to be able to just directly import the xml data, using
>a schema or some other document that can define this file, or convert it to
>element-centric XML, for Access to accept.
>
>Does anyone know how to do this or done this before or have some pointers I
>could use to get me started in the right direction?  The creators of this
>beast have NO experience with Access or Access databases so are of no help
>in this matter.  My tax dollars at work.  L
>
>Thanks in advance!!!
>
>Greg
>
>Valid XML File for the stated dtd-(watch for wrapping and alignment issues
>with this type of file and text):
>
><!DOCTYPE REQUEST_GROUP SYSTEM 
>
>"http://iowalandrecords.org/portal/dtd/CLRIS_PRIA_Request.dtd">
><REQUEST_GROUP>
>  <REQUESTING_PARTY/>
>   <RECEIVING_PARTY/>
>    <SUBMITTING_PARTY/>
>     <REQUEST>
>                <KEY _Name="SubmissionID" _Value="4281"/>
>                <KEY _Name="GroupName" _Value="JFB_Exemption20060831"/>
>                <KEY _Name="SubmissionNumber" _Value="000000061000004281"/>
> 
><PRIA_REQUEST_Type="Other"_TypeOtherDescription="ESubmission">
>      	<PACKAGE>
>            <PRIA_DOCUMENT _Code="" _NonRecordableIndicator="N" _Type="Deed"
>_InstrumentDate="20060831" _CountyOfRecordationName="Scott"
>_StateOfRecordationName="IA">
>            <GRANTOR _FirstName="First" _MiddleName="mi" _LastName="Last"
>_NameSuffix="" _UnparsedName="Last First mi" _Capacity=""
>_NonPersonEntityIndicator="N"/>
>            <GRANTEE _Capacity="" _NonPersonEntityIndicator="N"/>
>            <PARTIES>
>            <_RETURN_TO_PARTY>
>            <NON_PERSON_ENTITY_DETAIL/>
>            <CONTACT_DETAIL/>
>            </_RETURN_TO_PARTY>
>            </PARTIES>
>            <EXECUTION/>
>            <RECORDING_ENDORSEMENT>
>            <_VOLUME_PAGE/>
>            <_FEES _TotalAmount="31.00">
>            <_FEE _Amount="15.00" _Description="StandardFee"/>
>            <_FEE _Amount="3.00" _Description="DocMgmtFee"/>
>            <_FEE _Amount="3.00" _Description="ERecordingFee"/>
>            <_FEE _Amount="10.00" _Description="TransferFee"/>
>            <_FEE _Amount="0.00" _Description="TransferTax"/>
>            </_FEES>
>            <_EXEMPTIONS _Description="Deed fulfilling contract"/>
>            </RECORDING_ENDORSEMENT>
>            <EMBEDDED_FILE _Description="" _EncodingType="B64Encode"
>_ID="4421" _Name="Cert.pdf" _NumberOfPages="1">
>            <DOCUMENT>-BLAH  - IMAGE FILE - BLAH BLAH ==</DOCUMENT>
>           </EMBEDDED_FILE>
>          </PRIA_DOCUMENT>
>         </PACKAGE>
>        </PRIA_REQUEST>
>       </REQUEST>
></REQUEST_GROUP>
>
>
>
>  
>

-- 
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Victoria, B.C.
Canada



From robert at servicexp.com  Sat Nov  4 09:15:41 2006
From: robert at servicexp.com (Robert)
Date: Sat, 4 Nov 2006 10:15:41 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] OT: Pricing Method ?
In-Reply-To: <454BEBD3.8070305@shaw.ca>
Message-ID: <000401c70024$188831f0$dcc05005@roberts>

 

This is probably a stupid question but.....

When calculating the selling price of an item, say by margin, do you
calculate based on the current received cost, or does one take the average
cost (of previously received items) + the current price and then perform the
calculations?

Total = AverageCost / (1 - m_dMargin)

Or say 

Total = RecievedCost / (1 - m_dMargin)


Another question....

What do you think is the best method of pricing an item in a Service
Oriented business. The business would sell both labor and components..


Thanks
Robert 



From accessd at shaw.ca  Sat Nov  4 11:19:25 2006
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Sat, 04 Nov 2006 09:19:25 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] OT: Pricing Method ?
In-Reply-To: <000401c70024$188831f0$dcc05005@roberts>
Message-ID: <0J8700F1UUPSR050@l-daemon>

Hi Robert:

There is no right-way. My specialty is POS applications and clients ask for
any number of ways to establish the markup on products.

1. An arbitrary amount. Then the margin is assigned. 
2. Percentage: As the product increases in prices a flat percentage does not
work. Sometimes a client has requested a incremental series of steps or
break points when applying percentage margins against products.
3. If the client sells a group of products of a similar value it is easier
to just apply a fixed margin.
4. Sometimes if a client has really done their research they can calculate
their monthly projected operating cost and then a margin/percentage can be
applied to create projected monthly sales. (Bigger companies use this method
but most small businesses just wing it.)
5. Some businesses just go with the Manufacture's suggested retail price and
then the margins can be all over the map.
6. Many businesses are either full or partial fianc?es and they tend to take
the pricing queues from their parent or partner company. ... But can get to
charge what ever rate they want on some specialty products.

The basic rule-of-thumb is one third principle which recommends 1/3 cost for
product purchase plus 1/3 cost of running the business and 1/3 for
profit/taxes/extra expenses/growth.

This is a long way to say that there is no right way to establish the
selling price. It can be a business model that uses high-markup and lower
volumes or low margins and higher volumes.

Using the method of applying Average Cost would only work if all the
products the store sells are of a similar cost. Most businesses tend to use
a method similar to your last suggestion.

Businesses like to be able to set a default method to establish their base
selling price for their product and I would give them a number of algorithms
to select from but then they want to go in to the view the calculated retail
prices of their product lines and make arbitrary changes.

As I see it there is no wrong way but if you are writing an application for
a client be assured that they want choices.

I hope this helps, does not confuse and has not strayed too far off the
subject.
Jim         

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Robert
Sent: Saturday, November 04, 2006 7:16 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] OT: Pricing Method ?

 

This is probably a stupid question but.....

When calculating the selling price of an item, say by margin, do you
calculate based on the current received cost, or does one take the average
cost (of previously received items) + the current price and then perform the
calculations?

Total = AverageCost / (1 - m_dMargin)

Or say 

Total = RecievedCost / (1 - m_dMargin)


Another question....

What do you think is the best method of pricing an item in a Service
Oriented business. The business would sell both labor and components..


Thanks
Robert 

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From robert at servicexp.com  Sat Nov  4 13:33:59 2006
From: robert at servicexp.com (Robert)
Date: Sat, 4 Nov 2006 14:33:59 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] OT: Pricing Method ?
In-Reply-To: <0J8700F1UUPSR050@l-daemon>
Message-ID: <000501c70048$2e0a70f0$dcc05005@roberts>

Jim,
 Thanks, indeed very helpful.. 

Would you, or have you ever, marked up the item based on it's average cost
plus current cost? If so, would the average be limited by a date frame?

Thanks
Robert 

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim Lawrence
Sent: Saturday, November 04, 2006 12:19 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: Re: [AccessD] OT: Pricing Method ?

Hi Robert:

There is no right-way. My specialty is POS applications and clients ask for
any number of ways to establish the markup on products.

1. An arbitrary amount. Then the margin is assigned. 
2. Percentage: As the product increases in prices a flat percentage does not
work. Sometimes a client has requested a incremental series of steps or
break points when applying percentage margins against products.
3. If the client sells a group of products of a similar value it is easier
to just apply a fixed margin.
4. Sometimes if a client has really done their research they can calculate
their monthly projected operating cost and then a margin/percentage can be
applied to create projected monthly sales. (Bigger companies use this method
but most small businesses just wing it.) 5. Some businesses just go with the
Manufacture's suggested retail price and then the margins can be all over
the map.
6. Many businesses are either full or partial fianc?es and they tend to take
the pricing queues from their parent or partner company. ... But can get to
charge what ever rate they want on some specialty products.

The basic rule-of-thumb is one third principle which recommends 1/3 cost for
product purchase plus 1/3 cost of running the business and 1/3 for
profit/taxes/extra expenses/growth.

This is a long way to say that there is no right way to establish the
selling price. It can be a business model that uses high-markup and lower
volumes or low margins and higher volumes.

Using the method of applying Average Cost would only work if all the
products the store sells are of a similar cost. Most businesses tend to use
a method similar to your last suggestion.

Businesses like to be able to set a default method to establish their base
selling price for their product and I would give them a number of algorithms
to select from but then they want to go in to the view the calculated retail
prices of their product lines and make arbitrary changes.

As I see it there is no wrong way but if you are writing an application for
a client be assured that they want choices.

I hope this helps, does not confuse and has not strayed too far off the
subject.
Jim         

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Robert
Sent: Saturday, November 04, 2006 7:16 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] OT: Pricing Method ?

 

This is probably a stupid question but.....

When calculating the selling price of an item, say by margin, do you
calculate based on the current received cost, or does one take the average
cost (of previously received items) + the current price and then perform the
calculations?

Total = AverageCost / (1 - m_dMargin)

Or say 

Total = RecievedCost / (1 - m_dMargin)


Another question....

What do you think is the best method of pricing an item in a Service
Oriented business. The business would sell both labor and components..


Thanks
Robert 

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From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com  Sat Nov  4 14:51:49 2006
From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (JWColby)
Date: Sat, 4 Nov 2006 15:51:49 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Building runtimes
Message-ID: <000001c70053$0d002f70$657aa8c0@m6805>

Does anyone know if it is possible to build a runtime "without cost"?  I
have built a database pro bono for Learning Disabilities Association, a
(USA) nationwide non-profit association for parents of children with
learning disabilities.  I would like to make it available to all of the
state chapters but when I go look at the Microsoft site, I cannot for the
life of me figure out how to actually get whatever is required to build
runtimes.  I have Office 2000, 2002 (XP) and 2003.  I had the developers
edition for 2K but not since, and am not really sure I can find that.  I am
not making any money on this and don't particularly want to spend any money
on this.
 
John W. Colby
Colby Consulting
www.ColbyConsulting.com
 


From dwaters at usinternet.com  Sat Nov  4 15:16:48 2006
From: dwaters at usinternet.com (Dan Waters)
Date: Sat, 4 Nov 2006 15:16:48 -0600
Subject: [AccessD] Building runtimes
In-Reply-To: <20630972.1162673963464.JavaMail.root@sniper6>
Message-ID: <000301c70056$8b031150$0200a8c0@danwaters>

Hi John,

One way or another, it costs something to make runtimes.  Office 2002
Developer edition cost more, and for 2003 you need Microsoft Office Access
2003 Developer Extensions.

I've made runtimes in both XP and 2003, and I believe that using the 2003
Developer Extensions was better.

I did get the Extensions CD for free about three years ago by attending the
Office 2003 Launch event in Minneapolis.  I got more free software at that
event that I ever used!

Best of Luck!
Dan


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of JWColby
Sent: Saturday, November 04, 2006 2:52 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] Building runtimes

Does anyone know if it is possible to build a runtime "without cost"?  I
have built a database pro bono for Learning Disabilities Association, a
(USA) nationwide non-profit association for parents of children with
learning disabilities.  I would like to make it available to all of the
state chapters but when I go look at the Microsoft site, I cannot for the
life of me figure out how to actually get whatever is required to build
runtimes.  I have Office 2000, 2002 (XP) and 2003.  I had the developers
edition for 2K but not since, and am not really sure I can find that.  I am
not making any money on this and don't particularly want to spend any money
on this.
 
John W. Colby
Colby Consulting
www.ColbyConsulting.com
 
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From DElam at jenkens.com  Sat Nov  4 15:17:09 2006
From: DElam at jenkens.com (Elam, Debbie)
Date: Sat, 4 Nov 2006 15:17:09 -0600 
Subject: [AccessD] Building runtimes
Message-ID: <7B1961ED924D1A459E378C9B1BB22B4C068DE860@natexch.jenkens.com>

I forget what the file name is, but there is one file that you need from the
developer edition.  I had this same issue when I created a runtime version
earlier this year and had to get a developer edition in addition to Sage
software's runtime builder.  The resulting package is huge too.

Debbie

-----Original Message-----
From: JWColby [mailto:jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com] 
Sent: Saturday, November 04, 2006 2:52 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] Building runtimes


Does anyone know if it is possible to build a runtime "without cost"?  I
have built a database pro bono for Learning Disabilities Association, a
(USA) nationwide non-profit association for parents of children with
learning disabilities.  I would like to make it available to all of the
state chapters but when I go look at the Microsoft site, I cannot for the
life of me figure out how to actually get whatever is required to build
runtimes.  I have Office 2000, 2002 (XP) and 2003.  I had the developers
edition for 2K but not since, and am not really sure I can find that.  I am
not making any money on this and don't particularly want to spend any money
on this.
 
John W. Colby
Colby Consulting
www.ColbyConsulting.com
 
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From stuart at lexacorp.com.pg  Sat Nov  4 15:34:11 2006
From: stuart at lexacorp.com.pg (Stuart McLachlan)
Date: Sun, 05 Nov 2006 07:34:11 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] OT: Pricing Method ?
In-Reply-To: <000401c70024$188831f0$dcc05005@roberts>
References: <454BEBD3.8070305@shaw.ca>,
	<000401c70024$188831f0$dcc05005@roberts>
Message-ID: <454D0753.5510.21F4DA6C@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>

Jim gave you a very good exposition of the vatious ways of establishing 
markup. Then one part he skipped over was what cost price to use.

There are several different ways of determining cost price. Which price is 
used is determined  by why it is being used and/or who is using it. 
The most common "Cost" prices are:

Last/Replacement cost.    
Gives you  an  indication of what it is going to cost you to replace your 
current stock when you use/sell it. Good for planners/managers.  Not used 
very often for determining prices/margins. Simple to implement
CurrentCost = NewCost

Average Cost.    
Tells you how much you have paid in total for your current stock and gives 
a reasonable indication of  unit costs to work out margins etc and whether 
you are making a profit in the business. Commonly used for determining 
prices/margins.   Good for accountants. A bit more complex to implement.
((CurrentStockOnHand * CurrentCost) 
+ (NewStockQty * NewCost))
/ (CurrentStockOnHand + NewStockQty) 

First In First Out (FIFO) Item Cost Tells you exactly what each item of 
stock cost you. Favoured by anal retentive accountants and auditors. 
Complicated to implement. You need to keep either a date/qty/cost table for 
each item or.  Every time an item is consumed, you need to check 
QuantityOnHand or keep track of a pointer into this table to work out when 
it was purchased and therefore what it cost.  

Actual Cost.    You store the individual cost against each item, not 
against each item type. It is only useful if you can identify individual 
items when they are bought/sold. 
Used for pricing/margins  when dealing with low volume/big ticket items and 
accountable items such as aircraft spares etc.  


On 4 Nov 2006 at 10:15, Robert wrote:

> 
> 
> This is probably a stupid question but.....
> 
> When calculating the selling price of an item, say by margin, do you
> calculate based on the current received cost, or does one take the average
> cost (of previously received items) + the current price and then perform the
> calculations?
> 
> Total = AverageCost / (1 - m_dMargin)
> 
> Or say 
> 
> Total = RecievedCost / (1 - m_dMargin)
> 
> 
> Another question....
> 
> What do you think is the best method of pricing an item in a Service
> Oriented business. The business would sell both labor and components..
> 
> 
> Thanks
> Robert 
> 
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From accessd at shaw.ca  Sat Nov  4 15:37:08 2006
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Sat, 04 Nov 2006 13:37:08 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] OT: Pricing Method ?
In-Reply-To: <000501c70048$2e0a70f0$dcc05005@roberts>
Message-ID: <0J88008UV6NAJM10@l-daemon>

Hi Robert:

If the item's costs are fairly constant then an average might be an
appropriate way to price an item... Mind you if the item is fairly
consistent there would seem to be no need for an average.... Just set an
reasonable markup and leave it until a major cost change requires a price
increase or decrease. If the items cost fluctuates dramatically then the
average price maybe be below cost.

Unless you are running a cost/price system like a stock exchange or a cost
plus seller store (ie, gas-station or grocery store) oscillating selling
prices would just confuse a customer. I would tend to just apply a
reasonable margin that would buffer the shifting costs until the difference
become to slim or too wide and then have the system trigger a recal of the
margin.

For your averaging system a moving date window would be a reasonable
constraint. No I have never designed an application that could marked up an
items using an averagering... But I have no idea of what type of business
you are designing for. 

HTH
Jim      

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Robert
Sent: Saturday, November 04, 2006 11:34 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: Re: [AccessD] OT: Pricing Method ?

Jim,
 Thanks, indeed very helpful.. 

Would you, or have you ever, marked up the item based on it's average cost
plus current cost? If so, would the average be limited by a date frame?

Thanks
Robert 

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim Lawrence
Sent: Saturday, November 04, 2006 12:19 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: Re: [AccessD] OT: Pricing Method ?

Hi Robert:

There is no right-way. My specialty is POS applications and clients ask for
any number of ways to establish the markup on products.

1. An arbitrary amount. Then the margin is assigned. 
2. Percentage: As the product increases in prices a flat percentage does not
work. Sometimes a client has requested a incremental series of steps or
break points when applying percentage margins against products.
3. If the client sells a group of products of a similar value it is easier
to just apply a fixed margin.
4. Sometimes if a client has really done their research they can calculate
their monthly projected operating cost and then a margin/percentage can be
applied to create projected monthly sales. (Bigger companies use this method
but most small businesses just wing it.) 5. Some businesses just go with the
Manufacture's suggested retail price and then the margins can be all over
the map.
6. Many businesses are either full or partial fianc?es and they tend to take
the pricing queues from their parent or partner company. ... But can get to
charge what ever rate they want on some specialty products.

The basic rule-of-thumb is one third principle which recommends 1/3 cost for
product purchase plus 1/3 cost of running the business and 1/3 for
profit/taxes/extra expenses/growth.

This is a long way to say that there is no right way to establish the
selling price. It can be a business model that uses high-markup and lower
volumes or low margins and higher volumes.

Using the method of applying Average Cost would only work if all the
products the store sells are of a similar cost. Most businesses tend to use
a method similar to your last suggestion.

Businesses like to be able to set a default method to establish their base
selling price for their product and I would give them a number of algorithms
to select from but then they want to go in to the view the calculated retail
prices of their product lines and make arbitrary changes.

As I see it there is no wrong way but if you are writing an application for
a client be assured that they want choices.

I hope this helps, does not confuse and has not strayed too far off the
subject.
Jim         

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Robert
Sent: Saturday, November 04, 2006 7:16 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] OT: Pricing Method ?

 

This is probably a stupid question but.....

When calculating the selling price of an item, say by margin, do you
calculate based on the current received cost, or does one take the average
cost (of previously received items) + the current price and then perform the
calculations?

Total = AverageCost / (1 - m_dMargin)

Or say 

Total = RecievedCost / (1 - m_dMargin)


Another question....

What do you think is the best method of pricing an item in a Service
Oriented business. The business would sell both labor and components..


Thanks
Robert 

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From martyconnelly at shaw.ca  Sat Nov  4 15:40:54 2006
From: martyconnelly at shaw.ca (MartyConnelly)
Date: Sat, 04 Nov 2006 13:40:54 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] Building runtimes
In-Reply-To: <000001c70053$0d002f70$657aa8c0@m6805>
References: <000001c70053$0d002f70$657aa8c0@m6805>
Message-ID: <454D08E6.3070403@shaw.ca>

Unfortunately TANSTAAFL

You will need one developers edition for one version of Access P&D Wizard
and preferably have only that version on the system, with Office
Jet and MDAC updated patches. You may have problems
on OS below Win 2000 ie. Access 2003 wont run on them.

Unless you want to handle a lot of phone support, I would get the Msi.
version of sagekey scripts, it is the cheapest, and will get you around
a lot of possible problems on OS installs. Msi doesn't need Wise installer
$425

Don't forget to test on a non-Admin account as this maybe where it
will be installed.

Maybe someone here has a copy, takes about an hour to do.

http://www.sagekey.com/access_2000.aspx

JWColby wrote:

>Does anyone know if it is possible to build a runtime "without cost"?  I
>have built a database pro bono for Learning Disabilities Association, a
>(USA) nationwide non-profit association for parents of children with
>learning disabilities.  I would like to make it available to all of the
>state chapters but when I go look at the Microsoft site, I cannot for the
>life of me figure out how to actually get whatever is required to build
>runtimes.  I have Office 2000, 2002 (XP) and 2003.  I had the developers
>edition for 2K but not since, and am not really sure I can find that.  I am
>not making any money on this and don't particularly want to spend any money
>on this.
> 
>John W. Colby
>Colby Consulting
>www.ColbyConsulting.com
> 
>  
>

-- 
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Victoria, B.C.
Canada



From billmorrill at comcast.net  Sat Nov  4 16:33:35 2006
From: billmorrill at comcast.net (Bill Morrill)
Date: Sat, 4 Nov 2006 15:33:35 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] DAO Code won't Compile
Message-ID: <e0c8e5110611041433t1979163cya1d91f0b01f9e10f@mail.gmail.com>

Need help on the following DAO code.  Using Access 2003 VBA reference set to
DAO 3.6 Object Library.  When I go to compile the code below the compiler
lights up [CALL_TYPE] and stops.  CALL_TYPE  is a field in the
qryCallAttempt but the compiler doesn't seem to understand this.  If I
comment out THE LINE strCallType = rst.CALL_TYPE then the compile stops at
the next line blnUnsuccessful = rst.UNSUCCESSFUL_ATTEMPT  - same thing it
doesn't see  rst.UNSUCCESSFUL_ATTEMPT ? ANOTHER FIELD IN qryCallAttempt.

Need some illumination.

Thanks,

Bill


 '_________________________________________________________________
DoCmd.Hourglass True

'declare object variables
Dim db As DAO.Database
Dim rst As DAO.Recordset

Set db = CurrentDb
Set rst = db.OpenRecordset("qryCallAttempt")


'declare non-object variables to be used in loop
Dim intCounter As Integer
Dim strCallType As String
Dim blnUnsuccessful As Boolean
Dim blnDeactivate As Boolean


'initialize variable
intCounter = 0

rs.MoveFirst
Do While Not rst.EOF 'loop through each record in the query and set
Deactivated in the recordset where applicable
      'initialize variables
      rs.Edit
      strCallType = rst.[CALL_TYPE]
      blnUnsuccessful = rst.[UNSUCCESSFUL_ATTEMPT]
      blnDeactivate = rst.[DEACTIVATE]

     If strCallType = "Call 1" And blnUnsuccessful = True And
Forms!frmPatientAddUpdate!Program = "NON-SCALE MEMBER" Then
            intCounter = intCounter + 1
            If intCounter = 3 Then
                 'update current record set
                 blnDeactivate = True
                 Me![DEACTIVATE] = blnDeactivate
                 rst.Update
                 rst.Close
                 DoCmd.Hourglass False
                 Exit Sub
            End If
      End If
      rst.Update
      rst.MoveNext
Loop

DoCmd.Hourglass False

'_____________________________________________________


From lizd1 at charter.net  Sat Nov  4 19:04:10 2006
From: lizd1 at charter.net (Liz Doering)
Date: Sat, 4 Nov 2006 19:04:10 -0600
Subject: [AccessD] Building runtimes
In-Reply-To: <000001c70053$0d002f70$657aa8c0@m6805>
Message-ID: <000001c70076$4e1a5d00$6601a8c0@Lillian>

I want to think I remember that this was easier with 97.  And your users
probably wouldn't care, so long as it worked.  Don't you have a stash of
ancient disks around?

 
Liz

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[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of JWColby
Sent: Saturday, November 04, 2006 2:52 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] Building runtimes

Does anyone know if it is possible to build a runtime "without cost"?  I
have built a database pro bono for Learning Disabilities Association, a
(USA) nationwide non-profit association for parents of children with
learning disabilities.  I would like to make it available to all of the
state chapters but when I go look at the Microsoft site, I cannot for the
life of me figure out how to actually get whatever is required to build
runtimes.  I have Office 2000, 2002 (XP) and 2003.  I had the developers
edition for 2K but not since, and am not really sure I can find that.  I am
not making any money on this and don't particularly want to spend any money
on this.
 
John W. Colby
Colby Consulting
www.ColbyConsulting.com
 
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From robert at servicexp.com  Sat Nov  4 19:29:26 2006
From: robert at servicexp.com (Robert)
Date: Sat, 4 Nov 2006 20:29:26 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] OT: Pricing Method ?
In-Reply-To: <454D0753.5510.21F4DA6C@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>
Message-ID: <000001c70079$d620dff0$dcc05005@roberts>


Stuart,
 Thank You Very Much! 

Robert

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Stuart McLachlan
Sent: Saturday, November 04, 2006 4:34 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] OT: Pricing Method ?

Jim gave you a very good exposition of the vatious ways of establishing
markup. Then one part he skipped over was what cost price to use.

There are several different ways of determining cost price. Which price is
used is determined  by why it is being used and/or who is using it. 
The most common "Cost" prices are:

Last/Replacement cost.    
Gives you  an  indication of what it is going to cost you to replace your
current stock when you use/sell it. Good for planners/managers.  Not used
very often for determining prices/margins. Simple to implement CurrentCost =
NewCost

Average Cost.    
Tells you how much you have paid in total for your current stock and gives a
reasonable indication of  unit costs to work out margins etc and whether you
are making a profit in the business. Commonly used for determining 
prices/margins.   Good for accountants. A bit more complex to implement.
((CurrentStockOnHand * CurrentCost) 
+ (NewStockQty * NewCost))
/ (CurrentStockOnHand + NewStockQty) 

First In First Out (FIFO) Item Cost Tells you exactly what each item of
stock cost you. Favoured by anal retentive accountants and auditors. 
Complicated to implement. You need to keep either a date/qty/cost table for
each item or.  Every time an item is consumed, you need to check
QuantityOnHand or keep track of a pointer into this table to work out when
it was purchased and therefore what it cost.  

Actual Cost.    You store the individual cost against each item, not 
against each item type. It is only useful if you can identify individual
items when they are bought/sold. 
Used for pricing/margins  when dealing with low volume/big ticket items and
accountable items such as aircraft spares etc.  


On 4 Nov 2006 at 10:15, Robert wrote:

> 
> 
> This is probably a stupid question but.....
> 
> When calculating the selling price of an item, say by margin, do you 
> calculate based on the current received cost, or does one take the 
> average cost (of previously received items) + the current price and 
> then perform the calculations?
> 
> Total = AverageCost / (1 - m_dMargin)
> 
> Or say
> 
> Total = RecievedCost / (1 - m_dMargin)
> 
> 
> Another question....
> 
> What do you think is the best method of pricing an item in a Service 
> Oriented business. The business would sell both labor and components..
> 
> 
> Thanks
> Robert
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From robert at servicexp.com  Sat Nov  4 19:29:42 2006
From: robert at servicexp.com (Robert)
Date: Sat, 4 Nov 2006 20:29:42 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] OT: Pricing Method ?
In-Reply-To: <0J88008UV6NAJM10@l-daemon>
Message-ID: <000101c70079$df783b70$dcc05005@roberts>

Jim,
  Again Thank You Very Much! 

Robert 

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim Lawrence
Sent: Saturday, November 04, 2006 4:37 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: Re: [AccessD] OT: Pricing Method ?

Hi Robert:

If the item's costs are fairly constant then an average might be an
appropriate way to price an item... Mind you if the item is fairly
consistent there would seem to be no need for an average.... Just set an
reasonable markup and leave it until a major cost change requires a price
increase or decrease. If the items cost fluctuates dramatically then the
average price maybe be below cost.

Unless you are running a cost/price system like a stock exchange or a cost
plus seller store (ie, gas-station or grocery store) oscillating selling
prices would just confuse a customer. I would tend to just apply a
reasonable margin that would buffer the shifting costs until the difference
become to slim or too wide and then have the system trigger a recal of the
margin.

For your averaging system a moving date window would be a reasonable
constraint. No I have never designed an application that could marked up an
items using an averagering... But I have no idea of what type of business
you are designing for. 

HTH
Jim      

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Robert
Sent: Saturday, November 04, 2006 11:34 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: Re: [AccessD] OT: Pricing Method ?

Jim,
 Thanks, indeed very helpful.. 

Would you, or have you ever, marked up the item based on it's average cost
plus current cost? If so, would the average be limited by a date frame?

Thanks
Robert 

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim Lawrence
Sent: Saturday, November 04, 2006 12:19 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: Re: [AccessD] OT: Pricing Method ?

Hi Robert:

There is no right-way. My specialty is POS applications and clients ask for
any number of ways to establish the markup on products.

1. An arbitrary amount. Then the margin is assigned. 
2. Percentage: As the product increases in prices a flat percentage does not
work. Sometimes a client has requested a incremental series of steps or
break points when applying percentage margins against products.
3. If the client sells a group of products of a similar value it is easier
to just apply a fixed margin.
4. Sometimes if a client has really done their research they can calculate
their monthly projected operating cost and then a margin/percentage can be
applied to create projected monthly sales. (Bigger companies use this method
but most small businesses just wing it.) 5. Some businesses just go with the
Manufacture's suggested retail price and then the margins can be all over
the map.
6. Many businesses are either full or partial fianc?es and they tend to take
the pricing queues from their parent or partner company. ... But can get to
charge what ever rate they want on some specialty products.

The basic rule-of-thumb is one third principle which recommends 1/3 cost for
product purchase plus 1/3 cost of running the business and 1/3 for
profit/taxes/extra expenses/growth.

This is a long way to say that there is no right way to establish the
selling price. It can be a business model that uses high-markup and lower
volumes or low margins and higher volumes.

Using the method of applying Average Cost would only work if all the
products the store sells are of a similar cost. Most businesses tend to use
a method similar to your last suggestion.

Businesses like to be able to set a default method to establish their base
selling price for their product and I would give them a number of algorithms
to select from but then they want to go in to the view the calculated retail
prices of their product lines and make arbitrary changes.

As I see it there is no wrong way but if you are writing an application for
a client be assured that they want choices.

I hope this helps, does not confuse and has not strayed too far off the
subject.
Jim         

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Robert
Sent: Saturday, November 04, 2006 7:16 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] OT: Pricing Method ?

 

This is probably a stupid question but.....

When calculating the selling price of an item, say by margin, do you
calculate based on the current received cost, or does one take the average
cost (of previously received items) + the current price and then perform the
calculations?

Total = AverageCost / (1 - m_dMargin)

Or say 

Total = RecievedCost / (1 - m_dMargin)


Another question....

What do you think is the best method of pricing an item in a Service
Oriented business. The business would sell both labor and components..


Thanks
Robert 

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From dwaters at usinternet.com  Sat Nov  4 19:42:27 2006
From: dwaters at usinternet.com (Dan Waters)
Date: Sat, 4 Nov 2006 19:42:27 -0600
Subject: [AccessD] DAO Code won't Compile
In-Reply-To: <28113472.1162679927476.JavaMail.root@Sniper26>
Message-ID: <000701c7007b$a73452b0$0200a8c0@danwaters>

Bill,

You might try changing the name CALL-TYPE to something else.  I've found
that I can't use the words Level or Note for the names of fields in tables.
Also, try removing the underscore from the field name.  I think in general,
all field names should be a continuous stream of letters and numbers (with a
letter as the first character).  Doing this removes a possibility for error.

Also, when you are in the code editor screen, select Tools|References, then
see if there are any references missing.  If so, the word MISSING should
precede the name of the reference that should be there.

Hope this helps,
Dan 
 

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Bill Morrill
Sent: Saturday, November 04, 2006 4:34 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: [AccessD] DAO Code won't Compile

Need help on the following DAO code.  Using Access 2003 VBA reference set to
DAO 3.6 Object Library.  When I go to compile the code below the compiler
lights up [CALL_TYPE] and stops.  CALL_TYPE  is a field in the
qryCallAttempt but the compiler doesn't seem to understand this.  If I
comment out THE LINE strCallType = rst.CALL_TYPE then the compile stops at
the next line blnUnsuccessful = rst.UNSUCCESSFUL_ATTEMPT  - same thing it
doesn't see  rst.UNSUCCESSFUL_ATTEMPT - ANOTHER FIELD IN qryCallAttempt.

Need some illumination.

Thanks,

Bill


 '_________________________________________________________________
DoCmd.Hourglass True

'declare object variables
Dim db As DAO.Database
Dim rst As DAO.Recordset

Set db = CurrentDb
Set rst = db.OpenRecordset("qryCallAttempt")


'declare non-object variables to be used in loop
Dim intCounter As Integer
Dim strCallType As String
Dim blnUnsuccessful As Boolean
Dim blnDeactivate As Boolean


'initialize variable
intCounter = 0

rs.MoveFirst
Do While Not rst.EOF 'loop through each record in the query and set
Deactivated in the recordset where applicable
      'initialize variables
      rs.Edit
      strCallType = rst.[CALL_TYPE]
      blnUnsuccessful = rst.[UNSUCCESSFUL_ATTEMPT]
      blnDeactivate = rst.[DEACTIVATE]

     If strCallType = "Call 1" And blnUnsuccessful = True And
Forms!frmPatientAddUpdate!Program = "NON-SCALE MEMBER" Then
            intCounter = intCounter + 1
            If intCounter = 3 Then
                 'update current record set
                 blnDeactivate = True
                 Me![DEACTIVATE] = blnDeactivate
                 rst.Update
                 rst.Close
                 DoCmd.Hourglass False
                 Exit Sub
            End If
      End If
      rst.Update
      rst.MoveNext
Loop

DoCmd.Hourglass False

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From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com  Sat Nov  4 19:45:44 2006
From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (JWColby)
Date: Sat, 4 Nov 2006 20:45:44 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Building runtimes
In-Reply-To: <000001c70076$4e1a5d00$6601a8c0@Lillian>
Message-ID: <000601c7007c$1c963820$657aa8c0@m6805>

Liz,

In fact I do own the developer's version of '97.  Unfortunately, unless you
are very careful, installing a runtime can damage current installs of later
versions of Access.  That is why the installer companies exist, because they
know how to do it right and charge for the knowledge.  The install builder
of the day just wrote over the top of...

I don't own one of the install builders, and they aren't cheap.  I am not
going to pay that much for this project.  I am not giving up on this yet
though.

John W. Colby
Colby Consulting
www.ColbyConsulting.com

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Liz Doering
Sent: Saturday, November 04, 2006 8:04 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Building runtimes

I want to think I remember that this was easier with 97.  And your users
probably wouldn't care, so long as it worked.  Don't you have a stash of
ancient disks around?

 
Liz

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of JWColby
Sent: Saturday, November 04, 2006 2:52 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] Building runtimes

Does anyone know if it is possible to build a runtime "without cost"?  I
have built a database pro bono for Learning Disabilities Association, a
(USA) nationwide non-profit association for parents of children with
learning disabilities.  I would like to make it available to all of the
state chapters but when I go look at the Microsoft site, I cannot for the
life of me figure out how to actually get whatever is required to build
runtimes.  I have Office 2000, 2002 (XP) and 2003.  I had the developers
edition for 2K but not since, and am not really sure I can find that.  I am
not making any money on this and don't particularly want to spend any money
on this.
 
John W. Colby
Colby Consulting
www.ColbyConsulting.com
 
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From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com  Sat Nov  4 22:42:31 2006
From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (JWColby)
Date: Sat, 4 Nov 2006 23:42:31 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Dual cores running 100%
Message-ID: <000701c70094$d4860060$657aa8c0@m6805>

LOL, well I have nirvana.  Well... sorta.  I am in the process of CASS
validating my 65 million record database using Accuzip software, a rather
kludgy process which uses FoxPro to validate ~3 million record chunks.  I
have two instances running on two different files.  As you guys probably
know by now, my system is now running Windows 2003 SBS, a dual core AMD X2
at 2.8 GHz and 2 gbytes and a raid 6 array with two largish volumes.  
 
Running just one instance of Accuzip the system processes about 6 million
records / hour.  Starting the second instance, leaves the first still
processing about 6 million records per hour but the second is processing
about 2.4 million records per hour.  I find the inequality odd.  My
experience in the past (using XP Pro) is that it slowed down the first
instance and both instances would run at roughly the same speed.  Whatever.

 
So basically I get an additional 40+ % processing using the second instance
of Accuzip.  Boy would it be nice to have a 16x processor array right now,
but this is usable.  I have to process ~22 files, each file would take ~30
minutes if processed by itself.  Once the processing is finished, I delete
the undeliverables and pack the FoxPro database, then start the next file
importing.  
 
Once all 22 files are processed, I then have to re-import them into SQL
Server and process them further there.  At that point after the import I
will have deliverable addresses, I am deleting all undeliverables.  Since
the exported / reimported records have a PK that matches my original (big)
table, I will then have the ability to create a master list of completely
valid deliverable ADDRESSES (not necessarily people at those addresses).  It
appears so far the non-deliverables are running around 14% which means I
will end up with 86% of 64 million addresses in the deliverable master
address table.
 
This is only the address validation side of the picture.  The fun begins
when I normalize the big table into a bunch of smaller tables as discussed
in an earlier email.  I have actually done that for one specific job (a
boating database) in order to do matching on a small (50K) database of names
of yacht owners that they got from a client.  The biggest problem is that in
order to match names (or even addresses) you have to compare apples to
apples and neither database was in CASSed form, and neither database
provided "match codes" do do the comparison on.  Much work quickly to make
this happen.
 
John W. Colby
Colby Consulting
www.ColbyConsulting.com
 


From shamil at users.mns.ru  Sun Nov  5 02:31:12 2006
From: shamil at users.mns.ru (Shamil Salakhetdinov)
Date: Sun, 5 Nov 2006 11:31:12 +0300
Subject: [AccessD] OT: Recommended weekend reading :) - Ten incredibly
	dangerous software ideas
Message-ID: <000e01c700b4$c0d05320$6401a8c0@nant>

Hi All,

I have just got this link 

http://arxiv.org/ftp/cs/papers/0607/0607022.pdf

via google and I have just finished reading the first page of this document.

It looks interesting and promising to give new insights of software industry
intrinsic troubles. It gives "a systematic critique of the software
industry. This critique is accomplished using classical methods in practical
design science."

This is not an easy stuff to read I must say. Therefore maybe better
postpone its reading for Monday or better Tuesday because Monday is not
usually an easy day by definition :)

Enjoy!

--
Shamil
 




From stuart at lexacorp.com.pg  Sun Nov  5 04:58:56 2006
From: stuart at lexacorp.com.pg (Stuart McLachlan)
Date: Sun, 05 Nov 2006 20:58:56 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] DAO Code won't Compile
In-Reply-To: <e0c8e5110611041433t1979163cya1d91f0b01f9e10f@mail.gmail.com>
References: <e0c8e5110611041433t1979163cya1d91f0b01f9e10f@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <454DC3F0.2951.24D59B3F@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>

On 4 Nov 2006 at 15:33, Bill Morrill wrote:

> Need help on the following DAO code. 
...
     strCallType = rst.[CALL_TYPE]
...
>       blnUnsuccessful = rst.[UNSUCCESSFUL_ATTEMPT]
>       blnDeactivate = rst.[DEACTIVATE]
.
They should all be Bangs, not dots.

rst!Call_Type etc.

-- 
Stuart




From martyconnelly at shaw.ca  Sun Nov  5 11:13:19 2006
From: martyconnelly at shaw.ca (MartyConnelly)
Date: Sun, 05 Nov 2006 09:13:19 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] DAO Code won't Compile
In-Reply-To: <454DC3F0.2951.24D59B3F@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>
References: <e0c8e5110611041433t1979163cya1d91f0b01f9e10f@mail.gmail.com>
	<454DC3F0.2951.24D59B3F@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>
Message-ID: <454E1BAF.2060907@shaw.ca>

Here is an explanation

BangVSDot.zip Explains the difference in usage between the Bang (!) and 
Dot (.) in DAO.

http://rogersaccesslibrary.com/knowledge.html

I believed MS started enforcing the documented way of handling this in XP
or 2003. They were lax about this previously.

This might also explain from Peter Walker
http://www.papwalker.com/ref101/me.html

Stuart McLachlan wrote:

>On 4 Nov 2006 at 15:33, Bill Morrill wrote:
>
>  
>
>>Need help on the following DAO code. 
>>    
>>
>...
>     strCallType = rst.[CALL_TYPE]
>...
>  
>
>>      blnUnsuccessful = rst.[UNSUCCESSFUL_ATTEMPT]
>>      blnDeactivate = rst.[DEACTIVATE]
>>    
>>
>.
>They should all be Bangs, not dots.
>
>rst!Call_Type etc.
>
>  
>

-- 
Marty Connelly
Victoria, B.C.
Canada



From rl_stewart at highstream.net  Sun Nov  5 17:36:49 2006
From: rl_stewart at highstream.net (Robert L. Stewart)
Date: Sun, 05 Nov 2006 17:36:49 -0600
Subject: [AccessD] Building runtimes
In-Reply-To: <mailman.1.1162749602.12525.accessd@databaseadvisors.com>
References: <mailman.1.1162749602.12525.accessd@databaseadvisors.com>
Message-ID: <200611052340.kA5Nejq28571@databaseadvisors.com>

John,

Check out techsoup.org for software
for non-profits like you are working
with.  Even though you would be paying
for it, the cost would be minimal through
their program.  I would recommend the 2 year
MSDN membership.  Then you have everything
you need to support them.

The hitch is that they have to be a recognized
501C organization.

Robert

At 12:00 PM 11/5/2006, you wrote:
>Date: Sat, 4 Nov 2006 15:51:49 -0500
>From: "JWColby" <jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com>
>Subject: [AccessD] Building runtimes
>To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'"
>         <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
>Message-ID: <000001c70053$0d002f70$657aa8c0 at m6805>
>Content-Type: text/plain;       charset="us-ascii"
>
>Does anyone know if it is possible to build a runtime "without cost"?  I
>have built a database pro bono for Learning Disabilities Association, a
>(USA) nationwide non-profit association for parents of children with
>learning disabilities.  I would like to make it available to all of the
>state chapters but when I go look at the Microsoft site, I cannot for the
>life of me figure out how to actually get whatever is required to build
>runtimes.  I have Office 2000, 2002 (XP) and 2003.  I had the developers
>edition for 2K but not since, and am not really sure I can find that.  I am
>not making any money on this and don't particularly want to spend any money
>on this.
>
>John W. Colby
>Colby Consulting
>www.ColbyConsulting.com
>




From garykjos at gmail.com  Mon Nov  6 07:46:10 2006
From: garykjos at gmail.com (Gary Kjos)
Date: Mon, 6 Nov 2006 07:46:10 -0600
Subject: [AccessD] Building runtimes
In-Reply-To: <000001c70053$0d002f70$657aa8c0@m6805>
References: <000001c70053$0d002f70$657aa8c0@m6805>
Message-ID: <aea6c4950611060546y7aeb54fcydd34ba8a023dc4bf@mail.gmail.com>

Happy Birthday JC!

(yesterday)

See, I put it in my PDA and it will now remind me forever and ever.

On 11/4/06, JWColby <jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com> wrote:
> Does anyone know if it is possible to build a runtime "without cost"?  I
> have built a database pro bono for Learning Disabilities Association, a
> (USA) nationwide non-profit association for parents of children with
> learning disabilities.  I would like to make it available to all of the
> state chapters but when I go look at the Microsoft site, I cannot for the
> life of me figure out how to actually get whatever is required to build
> runtimes.  I have Office 2000, 2002 (XP) and 2003.  I had the developers
> edition for 2K but not since, and am not really sure I can find that.  I am
> not making any money on this and don't particularly want to spend any money
> on this.
>
> John W. Colby
> Colby Consulting
> www.ColbyConsulting.com
>
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From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com  Mon Nov  6 09:27:51 2006
From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (JWColby)
Date: Mon, 6 Nov 2006 10:27:51 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Building runtimes
In-Reply-To: <aea6c4950611060546y7aeb54fcydd34ba8a023dc4bf@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <001f01c701b8$2041ec70$657aa8c0@m6805>

LOL, thanks.  It was a good day.  My son's half brother and his adoptive
family visited from Connecticut, a good time. 

John W. Colby
Colby Consulting
www.ColbyConsulting.com

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gary Kjos
Sent: Monday, November 06, 2006 8:46 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Building runtimes

Happy Birthday JC!

(yesterday)

See, I put it in my PDA and it will now remind me forever and ever.

On 11/4/06, JWColby <jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com> wrote:
> Does anyone know if it is possible to build a runtime "without cost"?  
> I have built a database pro bono for Learning Disabilities 
> Association, a
> (USA) nationwide non-profit association for parents of children with 
> learning disabilities.  I would like to make it available to all of 
> the state chapters but when I go look at the Microsoft site, I cannot 
> for the life of me figure out how to actually get whatever is required 
> to build runtimes.  I have Office 2000, 2002 (XP) and 2003.  I had the 
> developers edition for 2K but not since, and am not really sure I can 
> find that.  I am not making any money on this and don't particularly 
> want to spend any money on this.
>
> John W. Colby
> Colby Consulting
> www.ColbyConsulting.com
>
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From Jim.Hale at FleetPride.com  Mon Nov  6 10:24:07 2006
From: Jim.Hale at FleetPride.com (Hale, Jim)
Date: Mon, 6 Nov 2006 10:24:07 -0600 
Subject: [AccessD] OT: Recommended weekend reading :) - Ten incredibly	
	dangerous software ideas
Message-ID: <6A6AA9DF57E4F046BDA1E273BDDB67727DE0D0@corp-es01.fleetpride.com>

"Today successful software production depends on pattern programming
craftwork
cleverness.    .....Even so, the software industry can't even begin to
produce most of the software
that its customers really want in this way."

Wow. An entire profession dimissed. Kakfa would be proud. Much food for
thought here, much of which is probably correct but not very tasty.
Interesting read, thanks.
Jim Hale


-----Original Message-----
From: Shamil Salakhetdinov [mailto:shamil at users.mns.ru]
Sent: Sunday, November 05, 2006 2:31 AM
To: 'Access-D'
Subject: [AccessD] OT: Recommended weekend reading :) - Ten incredibly
dangerous software ideas


Hi All,

I have just got this link 

http://arxiv.org/ftp/cs/papers/0607/0607022.pdf

via google and I have just finished reading the first page of this document.

It looks interesting and promising to give new insights of software industry
intrinsic troubles. It gives "a systematic critique of the software
industry. This critique is accomplished using classical methods in practical
design science."

This is not an easy stuff to read I must say. Therefore maybe better
postpone its reading for Monday or better Tuesday because Monday is not
usually an easy day by definition :)

Enjoy!

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From garykjos at gmail.com  Mon Nov  6 10:31:08 2006
From: garykjos at gmail.com (Gary Kjos)
Date: Mon, 6 Nov 2006 10:31:08 -0600
Subject: [AccessD] Building runtimes
In-Reply-To: <001f01c701b8$2041ec70$657aa8c0@m6805>
References: <aea6c4950611060546y7aeb54fcydd34ba8a023dc4bf@mail.gmail.com>
	<001f01c701b8$2041ec70$657aa8c0@m6805>
Message-ID: <aea6c4950611060831p1da1dab3v970899060e749f6b@mail.gmail.com>

Cool. Glad to hear you had an enjoyable time with your extended family.

GK

On 11/6/06, JWColby <jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com> wrote:
> LOL, thanks.  It was a good day.  My son's half brother and his adoptive
> family visited from Connecticut, a good time.
>
> John W. Colby
> Colby Consulting
> www.ColbyConsulting.com
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gary Kjos
> Sent: Monday, November 06, 2006 8:46 AM
> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] Building runtimes
>
> Happy Birthday JC!
>
> (yesterday)
>
> See, I put it in my PDA and it will now remind me forever and ever.
>
> On 11/4/06, JWColby <jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com> wrote:
> > Does anyone know if it is possible to build a runtime "without cost"?
> > I have built a database pro bono for Learning Disabilities
> > Association, a
> > (USA) nationwide non-profit association for parents of children with
> > learning disabilities.  I would like to make it available to all of
> > the state chapters but when I go look at the Microsoft site, I cannot
> > for the life of me figure out how to actually get whatever is required
> > to build runtimes.  I have Office 2000, 2002 (XP) and 2003.  I had the
> > developers edition for 2K but not since, and am not really sure I can
> > find that.  I am not making any money on this and don't particularly
> > want to spend any money on this.
> >
> > John W. Colby
> > Colby Consulting
> > www.ColbyConsulting.com
> >
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From Drawbridge.Jack at ic.gc.ca  Mon Nov  6 10:30:39 2006
From: Drawbridge.Jack at ic.gc.ca (Drawbridge, Jack: #CIO - BPI)
Date: Mon, 6 Nov 2006 11:30:39 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] DAO Code won't Compile
In-Reply-To: <e0c8e5110611041433t1979163cya1d91f0b01f9e10f@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <0F3AFAE449DD4A40BED8B6C4A97ABF5B077531A4@MSG-MB3.icent.ic.gc.ca>

Bill,

I believe the lines referring to columns in your recordset (ie
rst.[CALL_TYPE]) should use the ! Not the . ( ie rst![CALL_TYPE] )

Also, your sample refers to rs and rst which will cause a problem.
Believe the rs may be a typo - all should be the same either rs or rst.

Hope this helps.
jack

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Bill Morrill
Sent: Saturday, November 4, 2006 5:34 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: [AccessD] DAO Code won't Compile

Need help on the following DAO code.  Using Access 2003 VBA reference
set to
DAO 3.6 Object Library.  When I go to compile the code below the
compiler
lights up [CALL_TYPE] and stops.  CALL_TYPE  is a field in the
qryCallAttempt but the compiler doesn't seem to understand this.  If I
comment out THE LINE strCallType = rst.CALL_TYPE then the compile stops
at
the next line blnUnsuccessful = rst.UNSUCCESSFUL_ATTEMPT  - same thing
it
doesn't see  rst.UNSUCCESSFUL_ATTEMPT - ANOTHER FIELD IN qryCallAttempt.

Need some illumination.

Thanks,

Bill


 '_________________________________________________________________
DoCmd.Hourglass True

'declare object variables
Dim db As DAO.Database
Dim rst As DAO.Recordset

Set db = CurrentDb
Set rst = db.OpenRecordset("qryCallAttempt")


'declare non-object variables to be used in loop
Dim intCounter As Integer
Dim strCallType As String
Dim blnUnsuccessful As Boolean
Dim blnDeactivate As Boolean


'initialize variable
intCounter = 0

rs.MoveFirst
Do While Not rst.EOF 'loop through each record in the query and set
Deactivated in the recordset where applicable
      'initialize variables
      rs.Edit
      strCallType = rst.[CALL_TYPE]
      blnUnsuccessful = rst.[UNSUCCESSFUL_ATTEMPT]
      blnDeactivate = rst.[DEACTIVATE]

     If strCallType = "Call 1" And blnUnsuccessful = True And
Forms!frmPatientAddUpdate!Program = "NON-SCALE MEMBER" Then
            intCounter = intCounter + 1
            If intCounter = 3 Then
                 'update current record set
                 blnDeactivate = True
                 Me![DEACTIVATE] = blnDeactivate
                 rst.Update
                 rst.Close
                 DoCmd.Hourglass False
                 Exit Sub
            End If
      End If
      rst.Update
      rst.MoveNext
Loop

DoCmd.Hourglass False

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From askolits at ot.com  Mon Nov  6 11:32:41 2006
From: askolits at ot.com (John Skolits)
Date: Mon, 6 Nov 2006 12:32:41 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Closing an open file
In-Reply-To: <aea6c4950611060831p1da1dab3v970899060e749f6b@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <006201c701c9$92d93070$7001a8c0@LaptopXP>

When running Access, I create reports every night, but inevitably, some user
has opened the file off the network and never closed it. I can't remove it
with KILL.
Any one have code for closing a file that may be open so I can then delete
it?

John




From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com  Mon Nov  6 12:03:47 2006
From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (JWColby)
Date: Mon, 6 Nov 2006 13:03:47 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] OT: Recommended weekend reading :) - Ten
	incredibly	dangerous software ideas
In-Reply-To: <6A6AA9DF57E4F046BDA1E273BDDB67727DE0D0@corp-es01.fleetpride.com>
Message-ID: <002f01c701cd$e89b8c20$657aa8c0@m6805>

ROTFL.  Yep, everyone on this list just IMAGINES that they do real work. 

John W. Colby
Colby Consulting
www.ColbyConsulting.com

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Hale, Jim
Sent: Monday, November 06, 2006 11:24 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: Re: [AccessD] OT: Recommended weekend reading :) - Ten incredibly
dangerous software ideas

"Today successful software production depends on pattern programming
craftwork
cleverness.    .....Even so, the software industry can't even begin to
produce most of the software
that its customers really want in this way."

Wow. An entire profession dimissed. Kakfa would be proud. Much food for
thought here, much of which is probably correct but not very tasty.
Interesting read, thanks.
Jim Hale


-----Original Message-----
From: Shamil Salakhetdinov [mailto:shamil at users.mns.ru]
Sent: Sunday, November 05, 2006 2:31 AM
To: 'Access-D'
Subject: [AccessD] OT: Recommended weekend reading :) - Ten incredibly
dangerous software ideas


Hi All,

I have just got this link 

http://arxiv.org/ftp/cs/papers/0607/0607022.pdf

via google and I have just finished reading the first page of this document.

It looks interesting and promising to give new insights of software industry
intrinsic troubles. It gives "a systematic critique of the software
industry. This critique is accomplished using classical methods in practical
design science."

This is not an easy stuff to read I must say. Therefore maybe better
postpone its reading for Monday or better Tuesday because Monday is not
usually an easy day by definition :)

Enjoy!

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From rusty.hammond at cpiqpc.com  Mon Nov  6 12:06:49 2006
From: rusty.hammond at cpiqpc.com (rusty.hammond at cpiqpc.com)
Date: Mon, 6 Nov 2006 12:06:49 -0600 
Subject: [AccessD] Closing an open file
Message-ID: <8301C8A868251E4C8ECD3D4FFEA40F8A2584B6A2@cpixchng-1.cpiqpc.net>

John,

Do they need to make changes to the report?  If not I've solved this issue
by 
by setting the report to read only on the network.

Something like the following:

Function ExportRpt(strRptName as String, strFileAndPath as string)

     If Dir(strFileAndPath) <> "" Then
        SetAttr strFileAndPath, vbNormal
        Kill strFileAndPath
     End If

     DoCmd.OutputTo acOutputReport, strRptName, acFormatXLS, strFileAndPath
     SetAttr strFileAndPath, vbReadOnly
End


HTH,

Rusty


-----Original Message-----
From: John Skolits [mailto:askolits at ot.com]
Sent: Monday, November 06, 2006 11:33 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] Closing an open file


When running Access, I create reports every night, but inevitably, some user
has opened the file off the network and never closed it. I can't remove it
with KILL.
Any one have code for closing a file that may be open so I can then delete
it?

John


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From shamil at users.mns.ru  Mon Nov  6 12:15:33 2006
From: shamil at users.mns.ru (Shamil Salakhetdinov)
Date: Mon, 6 Nov 2006 21:15:33 +0300
Subject: [AccessD] OT: Recommended weekend reading :) - Ten
	incredibly	dangerous software ideas
In-Reply-To: <6A6AA9DF57E4F046BDA1E273BDDB67727DE0D0@corp-es01.fleetpride.com>
Message-ID: <000601c701cf$8cd6bd90$6401a8c0@nant>

<<<
Wow. An entire profession dismissed
>>>
Hello Jim,

And computer science academic researches also :)

<<<
For fifty years software science researchers have 
struggled to perfect practical set logics. These
efforts so far have been fruitless and futile.
>>>

And then this passage:

<<<
Differential state dynamics logics are the native 
logics of practical reality. The intrinsic order of
physical reality is solely state dynamical. The 
emergent order of practical reality is reducible to
complex physical differential dynamics. We 
conveniently live in a universe where the differential
meaning of intrinsic order is necessary and sufficient 
for all practical purposes.
>>>

Which I think is beyond me. Could that be they 
somehow consider "Chaos theory" (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chaos_theory) 
as a foundation for the "alternative principled
software production approaches" they mention
here in optimistic final part of their writing?:

<<<
These solutions will require alternative principled 
software production approaches. Such approaches appear
to be possible and practical today. They will likely 
be highly profitable as well.
>>>

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-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Hale, Jim
Sent: Monday, November 06, 2006 7:24 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: Re: [AccessD] OT: Recommended weekend reading :) - Ten incredibly
dangerous software ideas

"Today successful software production depends on pattern programming
craftwork
cleverness.    .....Even so, the software industry can't even begin to
produce most of the software
that its customers really want in this way."

Wow. An entire profession dimissed. Kakfa would be proud. Much food for
thought here, much of which is probably correct but not very tasty.
Interesting read, thanks.
Jim Hale


-----Original Message-----
From: Shamil Salakhetdinov [mailto:shamil at users.mns.ru]
Sent: Sunday, November 05, 2006 2:31 AM
To: 'Access-D'
Subject: [AccessD] OT: Recommended weekend reading :) - Ten incredibly
dangerous software ideas


Hi All,

I have just got this link 

http://arxiv.org/ftp/cs/papers/0607/0607022.pdf

via google and I have just finished reading the first page of this document.

It looks interesting and promising to give new insights of software industry
intrinsic troubles. It gives "a systematic critique of the software
industry. This critique is accomplished using classical methods in practical
design science."

This is not an easy stuff to read I must say. Therefore maybe better
postpone its reading for Monday or better Tuesday because Monday is not
usually an easy day by definition :)

Enjoy!

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From newsgrps at dalyn.co.nz  Mon Nov  6 12:53:26 2006
From: newsgrps at dalyn.co.nz (David Emerson)
Date: Tue, 07 Nov 2006 07:53:26 +1300
Subject: [AccessD] Changing Rowsource for Graph (Sproc source)
Message-ID: <7.0.1.0.0.20061107075110.01a54ab0@dalyn.co.nz>

Just for the record, I couldn't find a solution using parameters in 
the report that worked so I ended up creating a temporary table, and 
running an insert sproc from VBA to fill it with the correct records 
before opening the report.  The report was then based on the temporary table.

David

At 4/11/2006, you wrote:
 >A long shot ideas.
 >
 >Use CHR$(39) instead of the single quote.
 >Not sure the syntax is exactly correct or not but here is what I came up
 >with.
 >
 >"EXEC sprptPipeGateForecastMth " & [Forms]![frmPipeWeldForecast]!cboGateIDNo
 >& ", " & Chr$(39)
 >& basConvertDate(basFirstMthDay([Forms]![frmPipeWeldForecast]![t
 >xtGateMthStartMth])) & Chr$(39) & ", " & Chr$(39) &
 >"basConvertDate(basFirstMthDay([Forms]![frmPipeWeldForecast]![txtGateMthEndM
 >th])) " & Chr$(39)
 >
 >
 >-----Original Message-----
 >From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
 >[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Andy Lacey
 >Sent: Friday, November 03, 2006 3:10 AM
 >To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
 >Subject: Re: [AccessD] Changing Rowsource for Graph (Sproc source)
 >
 >Hi David
 >I seem to recall having the same issue a long while ago. I was using queries
 >and ended up setting the graph's rowsource to a query but modifying the
 >query's SQL before opening the report. Not being an SQL kind of guy I don't
 >know how that translates when you have Sprocs, or if it can at all, but I'm
 >hoping that gives you a steer.
 >
 >-- Andy Lacey
 >http://www.minstersystems.co.uk
 >
 > > -----Original Message-----
 > > From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
 > > [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of
 > > David Emerson
 > > Sent: 03 November 2006 04:28
 > > To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
 > > Subject: [AccessD] Changing Rowsource for Graph (Sproc source)
 > >
 > >
 > > Group,
 > >
 > > Access XP ADP
 > >
 > > I have a report that has a single graph on it (Unbound Object Frame:
 > > Microsoft Graph Chart).  The RowSource property is set to a sproc
 > > which has parameters.
 > >
 > > If I enter the following direct into the RowSource property the
 > > report runs fine:
 > > EXEC sprptPipeGateForecastMth 1085207198, '2006-11-01', '2007-10-01'
 > >
 > > However, I want to set the parameters based on values on a form.  The
 > > help I found on the internet said that the reports OnOpen event was
 > > the place to put it so I added:
 > >
 > > Me!graGraph.RowSource = "EXEC sprptPipeGateForecastMth " &
 > > [Forms]![frmPipeWeldForecast]!cboGateIDNo & ", '" &
 > > basConvertDate(basFirstMthDay([Forms]![frmPipeWeldForecast]![t
 > > xtGateMthStartMth]))
 > > & "', '" &
 > > basConvertDate(basFirstMthDay([Forms]![frmPipeWeldForecast]![t
 > > xtGateMthEndMth]))
 > > & "'"
 > >
 > > When the report is run I get Runtime Error 2455 - You entered an
 > > expression that has an invalid reference to the property
 > > RowSource.  I get the same error if I try in the OnOpen event of the
 > > report (this indicates that the property is not even
 > > available OnOpen):
 > >
 > > MsgBox Reports!rptPipeGateForecastMth!graGraph.RowSource
 > >
 > > I know the property exists because the following works it I put it
 > > into the report detail OnFormat event:
 > > MsgBox Me!graGraph.RowSource
 > >
 > > I have tried setting the property on the detail OnFormat event but an
 > > error comes up saying that you cant set this property after printing
 > > has started.
 > >
 > > Any guidance on what I can try?

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From askolits at ot.com  Mon Nov  6 13:00:34 2006
From: askolits at ot.com (John Skolits)
Date: Mon, 6 Nov 2006 14:00:34 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Closing an open file
In-Reply-To: <8301C8A868251E4C8ECD3D4FFEA40F8A2584B6A2@cpixchng-1.cpiqpc.net>
Message-ID: <007e01c701d5$d9bca830$7001a8c0@LaptopXP>

Hmmm. No, they really don't need to make any changes. That may work. 
So you're saying, if the file is opened as read only, I Can delete it even
if someone has it open?

It would still be nice though to figure out a way to close it if it's open
anyway.
I think that would make things a bit cleaner.




-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of
rusty.hammond at cpiqpc.com
Sent: Monday, November 06, 2006 1:07 PM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Closing an open file

John,

Do they need to make changes to the report?  If not I've solved this issue
by 
by setting the report to read only on the network.

Something like the following:

Function ExportRpt(strRptName as String, strFileAndPath as string)

     If Dir(strFileAndPath) <> "" Then
        SetAttr strFileAndPath, vbNormal
        Kill strFileAndPath
     End If

     DoCmd.OutputTo acOutputReport, strRptName, acFormatXLS, strFileAndPath
     SetAttr strFileAndPath, vbReadOnly
End


HTH,

Rusty


-----Original Message-----
From: John Skolits [mailto:askolits at ot.com]
Sent: Monday, November 06, 2006 11:33 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] Closing an open file


When running Access, I create reports every night, but inevitably, some user
has opened the file off the network and never closed it. I can't remove it
with KILL.
Any one have code for closing a file that may be open so I can then delete
it?

John


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From rusty.hammond at cpiqpc.com  Mon Nov  6 13:20:45 2006
From: rusty.hammond at cpiqpc.com (rusty.hammond at cpiqpc.com)
Date: Mon, 6 Nov 2006 13:20:45 -0600 
Subject: [AccessD] Closing an open file
Message-ID: <8301C8A868251E4C8ECD3D4FFEA40F8A2584B6A5@cpixchng-1.cpiqpc.net>

Yes, at least for an excel file anyway. I'm assuming ms word works the same
way.   When the file is read only, a copy gets loaded into excel without the
file being held open.  It also helps avoid the issue of someone making
changes to the report accidentally.  If they want to save changes, they can
to another filename but the master remains intact.

I agree the ability to close an open file would be nice, but for this
situation the read-only setting works great.



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From: John Skolits [mailto:askolits at ot.com]
Sent: Monday, November 06, 2006 1:01 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Closing an open file


Hmmm. No, they really don't need to make any changes. That may work. 
So you're saying, if the file is opened as read only, I Can delete it even
if someone has it open?

It would still be nice though to figure out a way to close it if it's open
anyway.
I think that would make things a bit cleaner.




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rusty.hammond at cpiqpc.com
Sent: Monday, November 06, 2006 1:07 PM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Closing an open file

John,

Do they need to make changes to the report?  If not I've solved this issue
by 
by setting the report to read only on the network.

Something like the following:

Function ExportRpt(strRptName as String, strFileAndPath as string)

     If Dir(strFileAndPath) <> "" Then
        SetAttr strFileAndPath, vbNormal
        Kill strFileAndPath
     End If

     DoCmd.OutputTo acOutputReport, strRptName, acFormatXLS, strFileAndPath
     SetAttr strFileAndPath, vbReadOnly
End


HTH,

Rusty


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Sent: Monday, November 06, 2006 11:33 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] Closing an open file


When running Access, I create reports every night, but inevitably, some user
has opened the file off the network and never closed it. I can't remove it
with KILL.
Any one have code for closing a file that may be open so I can then delete
it?

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From Lambert.Heenan at AIG.com  Mon Nov  6 16:07:17 2006
From: Lambert.Heenan at AIG.com (Heenan, Lambert)
Date: Mon, 6 Nov 2006 16:07:17 -0600 
Subject: [AccessD] OT: Recommended weekend reading :) - Ten
	incredibly		dangerous software ideas
Message-ID: <E762D59BC2D0694998629044C75FA285036C2E81@xlivmbx26.aig.com>

Hmm,

Sound like that text ("Differential state dynamics ...") could have come
from this wonderful postmodernist critical site

http://www.elsewhere.org/pomo

Every time you visit the site you'll get a page or two of utter drivel that
has a style quite similar to this.

Lambert :-)


And then this passage:

<<<
Differential state dynamics logics are the native 
logics of practical reality. The intrinsic order of
physical reality is solely state dynamical. The 
emergent order of practical reality is reducible to
complex physical differential dynamics. We 
conveniently live in a universe where the differential
meaning of intrinsic order is necessary and sufficient 
for all practical purposes.
>>>

Which I think is beyond me. Could that be they 
somehow consider "Chaos theory" (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chaos_theory) 
as a foundation for the "alternative principled
software production approaches" they mention
here in optimistic final part of their writing?:

<<<
These solutions will require alternative principled 
software production approaches. Such approaches appear
to be possible and practical today. They will likely 
be highly profitable as well.
>>>

--
Shamil
 
-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Hale, Jim
Sent: Monday, November 06, 2006 7:24 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: Re: [AccessD] OT: Recommended weekend reading :) - Ten incredibly
dangerous software ideas

"Today successful software production depends on pattern programming
craftwork
cleverness.    .....Even so, the software industry can't even begin to
produce most of the software
that its customers really want in this way."

Wow. An entire profession dimissed. Kakfa would be proud. Much food for
thought here, much of which is probably correct but not very tasty.
Interesting read, thanks. Jim Hale


-----Original Message-----
From: Shamil Salakhetdinov [mailto:shamil at users.mns.ru]
Sent: Sunday, November 05, 2006 2:31 AM
To: 'Access-D'
Subject: [AccessD] OT: Recommended weekend reading :) - Ten incredibly
dangerous software ideas


Hi All,

I have just got this link 

http://arxiv.org/ftp/cs/papers/0607/0607022.pdf

via google and I have just finished reading the first page of this document.

It looks interesting and promising to give new insights of software industry
intrinsic troubles. It gives "a systematic critique of the software
industry. This critique is accomplished using classical methods in practical
design science."

This is not an easy stuff to read I must say. Therefore maybe better
postpone its reading for Monday or better Tuesday because Monday is not
usually an easy day by definition :)

Enjoy!

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From fahooper at trapo.com  Mon Nov  6 16:17:26 2006
From: fahooper at trapo.com (Fred Hooper)
Date: Mon, 6 Nov 2006 17:17:26 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Closing an open file
In-Reply-To: <006201c701c9$92d93070$7001a8c0@LaptopXP>
Message-ID: <000401c701f1$576436c0$b414c048@fredxp>

If the file has been opened from another computer (i.e. not the one that the
file is on), sysinternals.com has tools for identifying and closing the
link. What you want is PsTools, which is on their File and Disk list. I've
used it in the past for the same purpose.

Fred Hooper

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Sent: Monday, November 06, 2006 12:33 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] Closing an open file

When running Access, I create reports every night, but inevitably, some user
has opened the file off the network and never closed it. I can't remove it
with KILL.
Any one have code for closing a file that may be open so I can then delete
it?

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From michael at ddisolutions.com.au  Mon Nov  6 19:46:14 2006
From: michael at ddisolutions.com.au (Michael Maddison)
Date: Tue, 7 Nov 2006 12:46:14 +1100
Subject: [AccessD] OT: Recommended weekend reading :) -
	Tenincredibly		dangerous software ideas
Message-ID: <59A61174B1F5B54B97FD4ADDE71E7D0116AC8C@ddi-01.DDI.local>


My code already embraces "Chaos theory", been doing it for years.
Keeps the maintenance programmers on their toes ;-)))

cheers

Michael M

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Lambert
Sent: Tuesday, 7 November 2006 9:07 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: Re: [AccessD] OT: Recommended weekend reading :) -
Tenincredibly dangerous software ideas

Hmm,

Sound like that text ("Differential state dynamics ...") could have come
from this wonderful postmodernist critical site

http://www.elsewhere.org/pomo

Every time you visit the site you'll get a page or two of utter drivel
that has a style quite similar to this.

Lambert :-)


And then this passage:

<<<
Differential state dynamics logics are the native logics of practical
reality. The intrinsic order of physical reality is solely state
dynamical. The emergent order of practical reality is reducible to
complex physical differential dynamics. We conveniently live in a
universe where the differential meaning of intrinsic order is necessary
and sufficient for all practical purposes.
>>>

Which I think is beyond me. Could that be they somehow consider "Chaos
theory" (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chaos_theory)
as a foundation for the "alternative principled software production
approaches" they mention here in optimistic final part of their
writing?:

<<<
These solutions will require alternative principled software production
approaches. Such approaches appear to be possible and practical today.
They will likely be highly profitable as well.
>>>

--
Shamil
 
-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Hale, Jim
Sent: Monday, November 06, 2006 7:24 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: Re: [AccessD] OT: Recommended weekend reading :) - Ten
incredibly dangerous software ideas

"Today successful software production depends on pattern programming
craftwork
cleverness.    .....Even so, the software industry can't even begin to
produce most of the software
that its customers really want in this way."

Wow. An entire profession dimissed. Kakfa would be proud. Much food for
thought here, much of which is probably correct but not very tasty.
Interesting read, thanks. Jim Hale


-----Original Message-----
From: Shamil Salakhetdinov [mailto:shamil at users.mns.ru]
Sent: Sunday, November 05, 2006 2:31 AM
To: 'Access-D'
Subject: [AccessD] OT: Recommended weekend reading :) - Ten incredibly
dangerous software ideas


Hi All,

I have just got this link 

http://arxiv.org/ftp/cs/papers/0607/0607022.pdf

via google and I have just finished reading the first page of this
document.

It looks interesting and promising to give new insights of software
industry intrinsic troubles. It gives "a systematic critique of the
software industry. This critique is accomplished using classical methods
in practical design science."

This is not an easy stuff to read I must say. Therefore maybe better
postpone its reading for Monday or better Tuesday because Monday is not
usually an easy day by definition :)

Enjoy!

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From Donald.A.McGillivray at sprint.com  Mon Nov  6 22:35:34 2006
From: Donald.A.McGillivray at sprint.com (McGillivray, Don [IT])
Date: Mon, 6 Nov 2006 22:35:34 -0600
Subject: [AccessD] Strategies for populating combo boxes
Message-ID: <EC829B33DF5B5B48A956B7A2E894AA9A0A2A98FE@PLSWB06C.ad.sprint.com>

Wow.  I stepped away for a couple of days and find a full blown discussion in my wake.  

There's only one table and it has about 1.1 million records and 35 columns, only about 10 of which contain data that they want to be able to select from the combos.  I settled on a temp table to hold the desired lists.  Col 1 has the control's name, col 2 the value.  The report selection form sets the rowsource for each combo on open.  Takes only a few seconds.  I added a routine to populate the temp table upon demand whenever the main table has been refreshed (about once per quarter, I'm told.)  So far, there are no more than about 27K rows in the largest combo list.  The others are in the tens or hundreds.  I'm glad to know of the limit, though.  I'll be able to warn of a potential for difficulty there.  

Drew, thanks for the idea about callback functions.  And, JC, thanks for the warnings about comprehending them.  I've looked at them before and didn't quite get it.  I feel better knowing that even you found them head-twisting.  I'll have another go.  It seems like an interesting option.

Thanks to all for the suggestions!

Don

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Sent: Friday, November 03, 2006 3:11 PM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Strategies for populating combo boxes

Oh, well I only use a callback when it's called for. (pun intended).  Most
common functions of a callback are just fine for 99% of what you need a
combo for.  The callback functionality is best for that other 1%.  For
instance, I wrote a utility that let you print or preview reports in a
database.  Using a value list runs into trouble if you have too many
reports, because it can only be ~2048 characters in length.  A callback did
the trick.

Also in tricky situations, like the one described in this thread, callbacks
provide better control of a combo/listbox.

Drew

-----Original Message-----
From: JWColby [mailto:jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com] 
Sent: Friday, November 03, 2006 5:02 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Strategies for populating combo boxes

LOL.  And I did and have, but to actually understand it...  I was trying to
generalize it.  To make a callback where one callback could be used for more
than one object, with more than one datasource.  It got ugly pretty quick.
If you have 500 combos in a big app and wanted to use a callback for many of
them, it gets painful building a new one for each object.

John W. Colby
Colby Consulting
www.ColbyConsulting.com

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[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of DWUTKA at marlow.com
Sent: Friday, November 03, 2006 5:21 PM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Strategies for populating combo boxes

Access 97's help file was a pretty easy read to do it, along with a sample
function.

Drew

-----Original Message-----
From: JWColby [mailto:jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com]
Sent: Friday, November 03, 2006 4:17 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Strategies for populating combo boxes

Cool!  Good to know.  

And are you sure that combos are limited to 65K?  I seem to remember
actually running into the 32K limit, but it was awhile ago so don't sue me
if I'm wrong.  I do know that they slooowed waaaaaay doooowwwwwn at that
size. 

Now you can talk him through a callback function.  There's a subject not for
the faint of heart (at least to truly understand).

John W. Colby
Colby Consulting
www.ColbyConsulting.com

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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of DWUTKA at marlow.com
Sent: Friday, November 03, 2006 4:43 PM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Strategies for populating combo boxes

Combos are limited to 65k. But I just whipped together a quick routine to
add a long integer to a collection.  In debug mode, without external
indication of how fast it was going, I stopped it for after about 20
seconds, and it had millions in the collection already.  Populating the
display with the collections count property ran over 65k in about a minute.
I would say the limit is closer to 2^31.

Drew

-----Original Message-----
From: JWColby [mailto:jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com]
Sent: Friday, November 03, 2006 2:50 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Strategies for populating combo boxes

Drew,

I was going to suggest this, however IIRC (and I was going to test this the
other day), collections are limited to 2^15 items in the collection (~32 k
items).  I seem to remember that he has some large tables. 


John W. Colby
Colby Consulting
www.ColbyConsulting.com

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[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of DWUTKA at marlow.com
Sent: Friday, November 03, 2006 3:25 PM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Strategies for populating combo boxes

Build a collection, pull the records once to fill the collection, then
populate the combos from a Callback function (which would get the data from
the collection, vs. the recordset)

Drew

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From shamil at users.mns.ru  Tue Nov  7 06:19:36 2006
From: shamil at users.mns.ru (Shamil Salakhetdinov)
Date: Tue, 7 Nov 2006 15:19:36 +0300
Subject: [AccessD] Strategies for populating combo boxes
In-Reply-To: <EC829B33DF5B5B48A956B7A2E894AA9A0A2A98FE@PLSWB06C.ad.sprint.com>
Message-ID: <000f01c70266$fdb89280$6401a8c0@nant>

<<<
It seems like an interesting option.
>>>
Don,

Yes, that is an interesting and useful option but be careful with combos
having many entries filled by callback functions while using them in
datasheet/continuous view forms - AFAIKR such combos are refilled every time
they get shown while you're scrolling rows - as a result you get "brain
damaged" datasheet forms reacting very slowly while scrolling them: if you,
e.g. have a combo, which is filled by callback function in half a second
them for a datasheet form with 10 visible rows this combo's filling will
take ~5 seconds when you push [PgDn]/[PgUp]...

Talking about that from memory - last time I used combos with callback
functions in MS Access 97 and I had met this nasty side-effect effect
mentioned above. Did they (MS) fix the issue in MS Access 2000/XP/2003/2007?
- I doubt they did but I can be wrong and therefore my above remark has to
be retested...

Temporary tables refilled on demand are usually satisfactory when used as a
base of dynamic combos. Of course these temp tables should be kept in
dedicated temp databases, which should be automatically compacted once in a
while...

Temp tables or dynamic on demand SQL used for combos' rowsource when combos
get focus of user typed a few chars are not the source of the "brain damaged
datasheet" side effect - the easy guess here is that MS Access "knows" (/get
cached) all the entries of such combos and therefore it (MS Access) is able
to go through all the visible rows and to keep shown/clear combos' values -
in the case of callback functions it (MS Access) have to get combos' entries
for every combo of every (newly) displayed row....

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-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of McGillivray, Don
[IT]
Sent: Tuesday, November 07, 2006 7:36 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Strategies for populating combo boxes

Wow.  I stepped away for a couple of days and find a full blown discussion
in my wake.  

There's only one table and it has about 1.1 million records and 35 columns,
only about 10 of which contain data that they want to be able to select from
the combos.  I settled on a temp table to hold the desired lists.  Col 1 has
the control's name, col 2 the value.  The report selection form sets the
rowsource for each combo on open.  Takes only a few seconds.  I added a
routine to populate the temp table upon demand whenever the main table has
been refreshed (about once per quarter, I'm told.)  So far, there are no
more than about 27K rows in the largest combo list.  The others are in the
tens or hundreds.  I'm glad to know of the limit, though.  I'll be able to
warn of a potential for difficulty there.  

Drew, thanks for the idea about callback functions.  And, JC, thanks for the
warnings about comprehending them.  I've looked at them before and didn't
quite get it.  I feel better knowing that even you found them head-twisting.
I'll have another go.  It seems like an interesting option.

Thanks to all for the suggestions!

Don

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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of DWUTKA at marlow.com
Sent: Friday, November 03, 2006 3:11 PM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Strategies for populating combo boxes

Oh, well I only use a callback when it's called for. (pun intended).  Most
common functions of a callback are just fine for 99% of what you need a
combo for.  The callback functionality is best for that other 1%.  For
instance, I wrote a utility that let you print or preview reports in a
database.  Using a value list runs into trouble if you have too many
reports, because it can only be ~2048 characters in length.  A callback did
the trick.

Also in tricky situations, like the one described in this thread, callbacks
provide better control of a combo/listbox.

Drew

-----Original Message-----
From: JWColby [mailto:jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com] 
Sent: Friday, November 03, 2006 5:02 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Strategies for populating combo boxes

LOL.  And I did and have, but to actually understand it...  I was trying to
generalize it.  To make a callback where one callback could be used for more
than one object, with more than one datasource.  It got ugly pretty quick.
If you have 500 combos in a big app and wanted to use a callback for many of
them, it gets painful building a new one for each object.

John W. Colby
Colby Consulting
www.ColbyConsulting.com

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of DWUTKA at marlow.com
Sent: Friday, November 03, 2006 5:21 PM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Strategies for populating combo boxes

Access 97's help file was a pretty easy read to do it, along with a sample
function.

Drew

-----Original Message-----
From: JWColby [mailto:jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com]
Sent: Friday, November 03, 2006 4:17 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Strategies for populating combo boxes

Cool!  Good to know.  

And are you sure that combos are limited to 65K?  I seem to remember
actually running into the 32K limit, but it was awhile ago so don't sue me
if I'm wrong.  I do know that they slooowed waaaaaay doooowwwwwn at that
size. 

Now you can talk him through a callback function.  There's a subject not for
the faint of heart (at least to truly understand).

John W. Colby
Colby Consulting
www.ColbyConsulting.com

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of DWUTKA at marlow.com
Sent: Friday, November 03, 2006 4:43 PM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Strategies for populating combo boxes

Combos are limited to 65k. But I just whipped together a quick routine to
add a long integer to a collection.  In debug mode, without external
indication of how fast it was going, I stopped it for after about 20
seconds, and it had millions in the collection already.  Populating the
display with the collections count property ran over 65k in about a minute.
I would say the limit is closer to 2^31.

Drew

-----Original Message-----
From: JWColby [mailto:jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com]
Sent: Friday, November 03, 2006 2:50 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Strategies for populating combo boxes

Drew,

I was going to suggest this, however IIRC (and I was going to test this the
other day), collections are limited to 2^15 items in the collection (~32 k
items).  I seem to remember that he has some large tables. 


John W. Colby
Colby Consulting
www.ColbyConsulting.com

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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
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Sent: Friday, November 03, 2006 3:25 PM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Strategies for populating combo boxes

Build a collection, pull the records once to fill the collection, then
populate the combos from a Callback function (which would get the data from
the collection, vs. the recordset)

Drew

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From Gustav at cactus.dk  Tue Nov  7 08:31:53 2006
From: Gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Tue, 07 Nov 2006 15:31:53 +0100
Subject: [AccessD] Strategies for populating combo boxes
Message-ID: <s550a709.041@cactus.dk>

Hi Don and Shamil

One method to speed up a callback function is to use a static array as the source. When initializing, check if the array is empty - if not, fill it. Now, whenever the combo or listbox is requeried and that happens very often, the callback function reads from the static array which is very fast.

Here's an example:

Public Function OrderListPrint( _
  ctl As Control, _
  ID As Long, _
  row As Long, _
  col As Long, _
  Code As Integer)
  
  Static astrPrint(1 To 7) As String
  
  Dim varValue            As Variant
  Dim lngCount            As Long
  
  Select Case Code
    Case acLBInitialize
      If Len(astrPrint(1)) = 0 Then
        ' Fill array.
        For lngCount = 1 To 7
          astrPrint(lngCount) = GetMsg("SaleId90" & lngCount)
        Next
      End If
      varValue = True
    Case acLBOpen
      varValue = Timer
    Case acLBGetRowCount
      varValue = 7    ' Rows.
    Case acLBGetColumnCount
      varValue = 2    ' Columns.
    Case acLBGetColumnWidth
      varValue = -1   ' Column width.
    Case acLBGetValue
      If col = 0 Then
        varValue = row + 1
      ElseIf col = 1 Then
        varValue = astrPrint(row + 1)
      End If
    Case acLBGetFormat     ' Format the data.
      ' varValue = strFormat      
    Case acLBEnd
      ' Do something when form with listbox closes or
      ' listbox is requeried.
  End Select
  
  OrderListPrint = varValue
    
End Function

/gustav

>>> shamil at users.mns.ru 07-11-2006 13:19:36 >>>
<<<
It seems like an interesting option.
>>>
Don,

Yes, that is an interesting and useful option but be careful with combos
having many entries filled by callback functions while using them in
datasheet/continuous view forms - AFAIKR such combos are refilled every time
they get shown while you're scrolling rows - as a result you get "brain
damaged" datasheet forms reacting very slowly while scrolling them: if you,
e.g. have a combo, which is filled by callback function in half a second
them for a datasheet form with 10 visible rows this combo's filling will
take ~5 seconds when you push [PgDn]/[PgUp]...

Talking about that from memory - last time I used combos with callback
functions in MS Access 97 and I had met this nasty side-effect effect
mentioned above. Did they (MS) fix the issue in MS Access 2000/XP/2003/2007?
- I doubt they did but I can be wrong and therefore my above remark has to
be retested...

Temporary tables refilled on demand are usually satisfactory when used as a
base of dynamic combos. Of course these temp tables should be kept in
dedicated temp databases, which should be automatically compacted once in a
while...

Temp tables or dynamic on demand SQL used for combos' rowsource when combos
get focus of user typed a few chars are not the source of the "brain damaged
datasheet" side effect - the easy guess here is that MS Access "knows" (/get
cached) all the entries of such combos and therefore it (MS Access) is able
to go through all the visible rows and to keep shown/clear combos' values -
in the case of callback functions it (MS Access) have to get combos' entries
for every combo of every (newly) displayed row....

--
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-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com 
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of McGillivray, Don
[IT]
Sent: Tuesday, November 07, 2006 7:36 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Strategies for populating combo boxes

Wow.  I stepped away for a couple of days and find a full blown discussion
in my wake.  

There's only one table and it has about 1.1 million records and 35 columns,
only about 10 of which contain data that they want to be able to select from
the combos.  I settled on a temp table to hold the desired lists.  Col 1 has
the control's name, col 2 the value.  The report selection form sets the
rowsource for each combo on open.  Takes only a few seconds.  I added a
routine to populate the temp table upon demand whenever the main table has
been refreshed (about once per quarter, I'm told.)  So far, there are no
more than about 27K rows in the largest combo list.  The others are in the
tens or hundreds.  I'm glad to know of the limit, though.  I'll be able to
warn of a potential for difficulty there.  

Drew, thanks for the idea about callback functions.  And, JC, thanks for the
warnings about comprehending them.  I've looked at them before and didn't
quite get it.  I feel better knowing that even you found them head-twisting.
I'll have another go.  It seems like an interesting option.

Thanks to all for the suggestions!

Don

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com 
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of DWUTKA at marlow.com 
Sent: Friday, November 03, 2006 3:11 PM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com 
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Strategies for populating combo boxes

Oh, well I only use a callback when it's called for. (pun intended).  Most
common functions of a callback are just fine for 99% of what you need a
combo for.  The callback functionality is best for that other 1%.  For
instance, I wrote a utility that let you print or preview reports in a
database.  Using a value list runs into trouble if you have too many
reports, because it can only be ~2048 characters in length.  A callback did
the trick.

Also in tricky situations, like the one described in this thread, callbacks
provide better control of a combo/listbox.

Drew


From DWUTKA at marlow.com  Tue Nov  7 09:15:27 2006
From: DWUTKA at marlow.com (DWUTKA at marlow.com)
Date: Tue, 7 Nov 2006 09:15:27 -0600 
Subject: [AccessD] Access to web
Message-ID: <17724746D360394AA3BFE5B8D40A9C1B0139B186@MARLOW_MAIN2.marlow.com>

I've always debated on that one.  If the Access .mdb is located on the
webserver, but in a non-web location (off the folders/files viewable from
the web), I don't see how Access is any more or less secure then a SQL
server.

Drew

-----Original Message-----
From: artful at rogers.com [mailto:artful at rogers.com] 
Sent: Friday, November 03, 2006 6:36 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Access to web

Secure, IMO, means that you abandon Access as a back-end and focus on SQL
Server or some other server database (MySQL, Oracle, DB/2, PostGres, Sybase,
etc.). The security offered in such a platform is superior to that offered
by Access. 

Typically, you create roles (groups of equivalent users), and then assign
users to roles. You also prevent everyone from directly accessing tables,
and allow them access to views, stored procedures and UDFs. You build up a
hierarchy of roles, additively (i.e. managers can do everything everyone
beneath them can do, but also have rights to do additional thngs such as run
reports of salaries.

For the generic web user you create a role WebUser. For employees, you
create several roles corresponding to the hierarchy of responsibility. The
CEO has, in theory, access to everything, but in practice I am god, not the
CEO, because I don't trust him to play safe.

So in a nutshell, if you want to move into web-dev, think SQL Server on the
Back End and then choose any Front End that appeals to you (.NET, PHP, Ajax,
DreamWeaver, whatever). In all cases the essential thing is to avoid dynamic
SQL at all costs, and instead think everything out in stored procedures,
views and UDFs.

HTH,
Arthur

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To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Sent: Friday, November 3, 2006 11:59:24 AM
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Access to web

Hello All,

I would consider myself quite competent in SQL, VBA, and Access.  With that 
in mind...I would like to learn to create secure web based apps(convert some

of my old Access dbs to web).

I need some direction as to what I should start learning/researching to 
accomplish this.  Any ideas, suggestions, or recommendations would be 
greatly appreciated.  I'm just not sure where to begin.

Thanks,

Mark A. Matte

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From DWUTKA at marlow.com  Tue Nov  7 09:36:56 2006
From: DWUTKA at marlow.com (DWUTKA at marlow.com)
Date: Tue, 7 Nov 2006 09:36:56 -0600 
Subject: [AccessD] Closing an open file
Message-ID: <17724746D360394AA3BFE5B8D40A9C1B0139B1A5@MARLOW_MAIN2.marlow.com>

The only two ways to do this would be to have a program running on all of
your client machines, which would close the files at a certain time (or
close the files from some type of other prompting (ie, network comms,
inactivity, etc.).  Or, you will have to have admin rights on a server to
force a file closed.  How to do it programmatically, not entirely sure, but
I would start looking into the Window Server OS resource kits, I'd be
surprised if it was something other then a simple shell command (with the
right resource kit util)

Drew

-----Original Message-----
From: rusty.hammond at cpiqpc.com [mailto:rusty.hammond at cpiqpc.com] 
Sent: Monday, November 06, 2006 1:21 PM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Closing an open file

Yes, at least for an excel file anyway. I'm assuming ms word works the same
way.   When the file is read only, a copy gets loaded into excel without the
file being held open.  It also helps avoid the issue of someone making
changes to the report accidentally.  If they want to save changes, they can
to another filename but the master remains intact.

I agree the ability to close an open file would be nice, but for this
situation the read-only setting works great.



-----Original Message-----
From: John Skolits [mailto:askolits at ot.com]
Sent: Monday, November 06, 2006 1:01 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Closing an open file


Hmmm. No, they really don't need to make any changes. That may work. 
So you're saying, if the file is opened as read only, I Can delete it even
if someone has it open?

It would still be nice though to figure out a way to close it if it's open
anyway.
I think that would make things a bit cleaner.




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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of
rusty.hammond at cpiqpc.com
Sent: Monday, November 06, 2006 1:07 PM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Closing an open file

John,

Do they need to make changes to the report?  If not I've solved this issue
by 
by setting the report to read only on the network.

Something like the following:

Function ExportRpt(strRptName as String, strFileAndPath as string)

     If Dir(strFileAndPath) <> "" Then
        SetAttr strFileAndPath, vbNormal
        Kill strFileAndPath
     End If

     DoCmd.OutputTo acOutputReport, strRptName, acFormatXLS, strFileAndPath
     SetAttr strFileAndPath, vbReadOnly
End


HTH,

Rusty


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From: John Skolits [mailto:askolits at ot.com]
Sent: Monday, November 06, 2006 11:33 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] Closing an open file


When running Access, I create reports every night, but inevitably, some user
has opened the file off the network and never closed it. I can't remove it
with KILL.
Any one have code for closing a file that may be open so I can then delete
it?

John


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From DWUTKA at marlow.com  Tue Nov  7 09:42:06 2006
From: DWUTKA at marlow.com (DWUTKA at marlow.com)
Date: Tue, 7 Nov 2006 09:42:06 -0600 
Subject: [AccessD] Strategies for populating combo boxes
Message-ID: <17724746D360394AA3BFE5B8D40A9C1B0139B1AB@MARLOW_MAIN2.marlow.com>

ALL combos/listboxes are doing the same thing as one populated by a callback
function.  It's just simply how a listbox/combobox 'window' works.  

All of the calls to a callback function are just simply being handled by an
internal callback when one of the other three methods are used (recordsoure,
fieldlist, value list).  

If you are experiencing slowdown in your callback function, you need to look
at when your callback function is doing.  If you are requerying at ANY point
other then the initialization, then there is a problem, because that takes
time.

Drew

-----Original Message-----
From: Shamil Salakhetdinov [mailto:shamil at users.mns.ru] 
Sent: Tuesday, November 07, 2006 6:20 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Strategies for populating combo boxes

<<<
It seems like an interesting option.
>>>
Don,

Yes, that is an interesting and useful option but be careful with combos
having many entries filled by callback functions while using them in
datasheet/continuous view forms - AFAIKR such combos are refilled every time
they get shown while you're scrolling rows - as a result you get "brain
damaged" datasheet forms reacting very slowly while scrolling them: if you,
e.g. have a combo, which is filled by callback function in half a second
them for a datasheet form with 10 visible rows this combo's filling will
take ~5 seconds when you push [PgDn]/[PgUp]...

Talking about that from memory - last time I used combos with callback
functions in MS Access 97 and I had met this nasty side-effect effect
mentioned above. Did they (MS) fix the issue in MS Access 2000/XP/2003/2007?
- I doubt they did but I can be wrong and therefore my above remark has to
be retested...

Temporary tables refilled on demand are usually satisfactory when used as a
base of dynamic combos. Of course these temp tables should be kept in
dedicated temp databases, which should be automatically compacted once in a
while...

Temp tables or dynamic on demand SQL used for combos' rowsource when combos
get focus of user typed a few chars are not the source of the "brain damaged
datasheet" side effect - the easy guess here is that MS Access "knows" (/get
cached) all the entries of such combos and therefore it (MS Access) is able
to go through all the visible rows and to keep shown/clear combos' values -
in the case of callback functions it (MS Access) have to get combos' entries
for every combo of every (newly) displayed row....

--
Shamil
 

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of McGillivray, Don
[IT]
Sent: Tuesday, November 07, 2006 7:36 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Strategies for populating combo boxes

Wow.  I stepped away for a couple of days and find a full blown discussion
in my wake.  

There's only one table and it has about 1.1 million records and 35 columns,
only about 10 of which contain data that they want to be able to select from
the combos.  I settled on a temp table to hold the desired lists.  Col 1 has
the control's name, col 2 the value.  The report selection form sets the
rowsource for each combo on open.  Takes only a few seconds.  I added a
routine to populate the temp table upon demand whenever the main table has
been refreshed (about once per quarter, I'm told.)  So far, there are no
more than about 27K rows in the largest combo list.  The others are in the
tens or hundreds.  I'm glad to know of the limit, though.  I'll be able to
warn of a potential for difficulty there.  

Drew, thanks for the idea about callback functions.  And, JC, thanks for the
warnings about comprehending them.  I've looked at them before and didn't
quite get it.  I feel better knowing that even you found them head-twisting.
I'll have another go.  It seems like an interesting option.

Thanks to all for the suggestions!

Don

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of DWUTKA at marlow.com
Sent: Friday, November 03, 2006 3:11 PM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Strategies for populating combo boxes

Oh, well I only use a callback when it's called for. (pun intended).  Most
common functions of a callback are just fine for 99% of what you need a
combo for.  The callback functionality is best for that other 1%.  For
instance, I wrote a utility that let you print or preview reports in a
database.  Using a value list runs into trouble if you have too many
reports, because it can only be ~2048 characters in length.  A callback did
the trick.

Also in tricky situations, like the one described in this thread, callbacks
provide better control of a combo/listbox.

Drew

-----Original Message-----
From: JWColby [mailto:jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com] 
Sent: Friday, November 03, 2006 5:02 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Strategies for populating combo boxes

LOL.  And I did and have, but to actually understand it...  I was trying to
generalize it.  To make a callback where one callback could be used for more
than one object, with more than one datasource.  It got ugly pretty quick.
If you have 500 combos in a big app and wanted to use a callback for many of
them, it gets painful building a new one for each object.

John W. Colby
Colby Consulting
www.ColbyConsulting.com

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of DWUTKA at marlow.com
Sent: Friday, November 03, 2006 5:21 PM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Strategies for populating combo boxes

Access 97's help file was a pretty easy read to do it, along with a sample
function.

Drew

-----Original Message-----
From: JWColby [mailto:jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com]
Sent: Friday, November 03, 2006 4:17 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Strategies for populating combo boxes

Cool!  Good to know.  

And are you sure that combos are limited to 65K?  I seem to remember
actually running into the 32K limit, but it was awhile ago so don't sue me
if I'm wrong.  I do know that they slooowed waaaaaay doooowwwwwn at that
size. 

Now you can talk him through a callback function.  There's a subject not for
the faint of heart (at least to truly understand).

John W. Colby
Colby Consulting
www.ColbyConsulting.com

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of DWUTKA at marlow.com
Sent: Friday, November 03, 2006 4:43 PM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Strategies for populating combo boxes

Combos are limited to 65k. But I just whipped together a quick routine to
add a long integer to a collection.  In debug mode, without external
indication of how fast it was going, I stopped it for after about 20
seconds, and it had millions in the collection already.  Populating the
display with the collections count property ran over 65k in about a minute.
I would say the limit is closer to 2^31.

Drew

-----Original Message-----
From: JWColby [mailto:jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com]
Sent: Friday, November 03, 2006 2:50 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Strategies for populating combo boxes

Drew,

I was going to suggest this, however IIRC (and I was going to test this the
other day), collections are limited to 2^15 items in the collection (~32 k
items).  I seem to remember that he has some large tables. 


John W. Colby
Colby Consulting
www.ColbyConsulting.com

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of DWUTKA at marlow.com
Sent: Friday, November 03, 2006 3:25 PM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Strategies for populating combo boxes

Build a collection, pull the records once to fill the collection, then
populate the combos from a Callback function (which would get the data from
the collection, vs. the recordset)

Drew

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From askolits at ot.com  Tue Nov  7 10:52:27 2006
From: askolits at ot.com (John Skolits)
Date: Tue, 7 Nov 2006 11:52:27 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Closing an open file
In-Reply-To: <17724746D360394AA3BFE5B8D40A9C1B0139B1A5@MARLOW_MAIN2.marlow.com>
Message-ID: <01a001c7028d$1e85adb0$7001a8c0@LaptopXP>

Drew,

I'm looking at sysinternals.com like Fred Hooper suggested. Still trying to
figure out how to use it, especially through VBA. 

If it doesn't work out, I'll go down your suggested road.

John

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Sent: Tuesday, November 07, 2006 10:37 AM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Closing an open file

The only two ways to do this would be to have a program running on all of
your client machines, which would close the files at a certain time (or
close the files from some type of other prompting (ie, network comms,
inactivity, etc.).  Or, you will have to have admin rights on a server to
force a file closed.  How to do it programmatically, not entirely sure, but
I would start looking into the Window Server OS resource kits, I'd be
surprised if it was something other then a simple shell command (with the
right resource kit util)

Drew

-----Original Message-----
From: rusty.hammond at cpiqpc.com [mailto:rusty.hammond at cpiqpc.com] 
Sent: Monday, November 06, 2006 1:21 PM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Closing an open file

Yes, at least for an excel file anyway. I'm assuming ms word works the same
way.   When the file is read only, a copy gets loaded into excel without the
file being held open.  It also helps avoid the issue of someone making
changes to the report accidentally.  If they want to save changes, they can
to another filename but the master remains intact.

I agree the ability to close an open file would be nice, but for this
situation the read-only setting works great.



-----Original Message-----
From: John Skolits [mailto:askolits at ot.com]
Sent: Monday, November 06, 2006 1:01 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Closing an open file


Hmmm. No, they really don't need to make any changes. That may work. 
So you're saying, if the file is opened as read only, I Can delete it even
if someone has it open?

It would still be nice though to figure out a way to close it if it's open
anyway.
I think that would make things a bit cleaner.




-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of
rusty.hammond at cpiqpc.com
Sent: Monday, November 06, 2006 1:07 PM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Closing an open file

John,

Do they need to make changes to the report?  If not I've solved this issue
by 
by setting the report to read only on the network.

Something like the following:

Function ExportRpt(strRptName as String, strFileAndPath as string)

     If Dir(strFileAndPath) <> "" Then
        SetAttr strFileAndPath, vbNormal
        Kill strFileAndPath
     End If

     DoCmd.OutputTo acOutputReport, strRptName, acFormatXLS, strFileAndPath
     SetAttr strFileAndPath, vbReadOnly
End


HTH,

Rusty


-----Original Message-----
From: John Skolits [mailto:askolits at ot.com]
Sent: Monday, November 06, 2006 11:33 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] Closing an open file


When running Access, I create reports every night, but inevitably, some user
has opened the file off the network and never closed it. I can't remove it
with KILL.
Any one have code for closing a file that may be open so I can then delete
it?

John


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From martyconnelly at shaw.ca  Tue Nov  7 11:00:59 2006
From: martyconnelly at shaw.ca (MartyConnelly)
Date: Tue, 07 Nov 2006 09:00:59 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] Closing an open file
In-Reply-To: <006201c701c9$92d93070$7001a8c0@LaptopXP>
References: <006201c701c9$92d93070$7001a8c0@LaptopXP>
Message-ID: <4550BBCB.9080309@shaw.ca>

If you don't care about removing the report, why not just time stamp the 
report file
name, it also gives a unique name.
"C:\temp\MyBigReport - " & Format(Now, "yyyymmddhhmmss") & ".rpt"

John Skolits wrote:

>When running Access, I create reports every night, but inevitably, some user
>has opened the file off the network and never closed it. I can't remove it
>with KILL.
>Any one have code for closing a file that may be open so I can then delete
>it?
>
>John
>
>
>  
>

-- 
Marty Connelly
Victoria, B.C.
Canada



From askolits at ot.com  Tue Nov  7 11:14:54 2006
From: askolits at ot.com (John Skolits)
Date: Tue, 7 Nov 2006 12:14:54 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Closing an open file
In-Reply-To: <4550BBCB.9080309@shaw.ca>
Message-ID: <01aa01c70290$419a83e0$7001a8c0@LaptopXP>

Well, it's a bit complicated. I had to use macros instead of code and did
some OutputTo calls. I can't easily change the names. Plus, it may cause
some confusion with the illiterate computer users if they start seeing all
these reports. I know what you're thinking, but I pushed them way ahead so
far in computer literacy but they still have a ways to go.
Eventually, I'll be able to do it, but not now.

John


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of MartyConnelly
Sent: Tuesday, November 07, 2006 12:01 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Closing an open file

If you don't care about removing the report, why not just time stamp the 
report file
name, it also gives a unique name.
"C:\temp\MyBigReport - " & Format(Now, "yyyymmddhhmmss") & ".rpt"

John Skolits wrote:

>When running Access, I create reports every night, but inevitably, some
user
>has opened the file off the network and never closed it. I can't remove it
>with KILL.
>Any one have code for closing a file that may be open so I can then delete
>it?
>
>John
>
>
>  
>

-- 
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Victoria, B.C.
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From shamil at users.mns.ru  Tue Nov  7 12:29:37 2006
From: shamil at users.mns.ru (Shamil Salakhetdinov)
Date: Tue, 7 Nov 2006 21:29:37 +0300
Subject: [AccessD] Strategies for populating combo boxes
In-Reply-To: <17724746D360394AA3BFE5B8D40A9C1B0139B1AB@MARLOW_MAIN2.marlow.com>
Message-ID: <000301c7029a$aec0ab70$6401a8c0@nant>

Drew and Gustav,

I will try to "cook" a sample where static array caching can't be used and
then a combo could result in datasheet form scrolling slowdown...

If I will not come with such a sample here in a month (no time currently to
trick around it) then the case I mentioned was the case of the bad callback
function design.

BTW, in MS Access online help is written: "The number of times your
user-defined function is called for acLBGetValue and acLBGetFormat to get
list entries and to format strings varies depending on the number of
entries, the user's scrolling, and other factors." 

"The user's scrolling" they say - be aware of that when using callback
functions - this is what I meant first of all...

--
Shamil 

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of DWUTKA at marlow.com
Sent: Tuesday, November 07, 2006 6:42 PM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Strategies for populating combo boxes

ALL combos/listboxes are doing the same thing as one populated by a callback
function.  It's just simply how a listbox/combobox 'window' works.  

All of the calls to a callback function are just simply being handled by an
internal callback when one of the other three methods are used (recordsoure,
fieldlist, value list).  

If you are experiencing slowdown in your callback function, you need to look
at when your callback function is doing.  If you are requerying at ANY point
other then the initialization, then there is a problem, because that takes
time.

Drew

-----Original Message-----
From: Shamil Salakhetdinov [mailto:shamil at users.mns.ru] 
Sent: Tuesday, November 07, 2006 6:20 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Strategies for populating combo boxes

<<<
It seems like an interesting option.
>>>
Don,

Yes, that is an interesting and useful option but be careful with combos
having many entries filled by callback functions while using them in
datasheet/continuous view forms - AFAIKR such combos are refilled every time
they get shown while you're scrolling rows - as a result you get "brain
damaged" datasheet forms reacting very slowly while scrolling them: if you,
e.g. have a combo, which is filled by callback function in half a second
them for a datasheet form with 10 visible rows this combo's filling will
take ~5 seconds when you push [PgDn]/[PgUp]...

Talking about that from memory - last time I used combos with callback
functions in MS Access 97 and I had met this nasty side-effect effect
mentioned above. Did they (MS) fix the issue in MS Access 2000/XP/2003/2007?
- I doubt they did but I can be wrong and therefore my above remark has to
be retested...

Temporary tables refilled on demand are usually satisfactory when used as a
base of dynamic combos. Of course these temp tables should be kept in
dedicated temp databases, which should be automatically compacted once in a
while...

Temp tables or dynamic on demand SQL used for combos' rowsource when combos
get focus of user typed a few chars are not the source of the "brain damaged
datasheet" side effect - the easy guess here is that MS Access "knows" (/get
cached) all the entries of such combos and therefore it (MS Access) is able
to go through all the visible rows and to keep shown/clear combos' values -
in the case of callback functions it (MS Access) have to get combos' entries
for every combo of every (newly) displayed row....

--
Shamil
 

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of McGillivray, Don
[IT]
Sent: Tuesday, November 07, 2006 7:36 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Strategies for populating combo boxes

Wow.  I stepped away for a couple of days and find a full blown discussion
in my wake.  

There's only one table and it has about 1.1 million records and 35 columns,
only about 10 of which contain data that they want to be able to select from
the combos.  I settled on a temp table to hold the desired lists.  Col 1 has
the control's name, col 2 the value.  The report selection form sets the
rowsource for each combo on open.  Takes only a few seconds.  I added a
routine to populate the temp table upon demand whenever the main table has
been refreshed (about once per quarter, I'm told.)  So far, there are no
more than about 27K rows in the largest combo list.  The others are in the
tens or hundreds.  I'm glad to know of the limit, though.  I'll be able to
warn of a potential for difficulty there.  

Drew, thanks for the idea about callback functions.  And, JC, thanks for the
warnings about comprehending them.  I've looked at them before and didn't
quite get it.  I feel better knowing that even you found them head-twisting.
I'll have another go.  It seems like an interesting option.

Thanks to all for the suggestions!

Don

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of DWUTKA at marlow.com
Sent: Friday, November 03, 2006 3:11 PM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Strategies for populating combo boxes

Oh, well I only use a callback when it's called for. (pun intended).  Most
common functions of a callback are just fine for 99% of what you need a
combo for.  The callback functionality is best for that other 1%.  For
instance, I wrote a utility that let you print or preview reports in a
database.  Using a value list runs into trouble if you have too many
reports, because it can only be ~2048 characters in length.  A callback did
the trick.

Also in tricky situations, like the one described in this thread, callbacks
provide better control of a combo/listbox.

Drew

-----Original Message-----
From: JWColby [mailto:jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com] 
Sent: Friday, November 03, 2006 5:02 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Strategies for populating combo boxes

LOL.  And I did and have, but to actually understand it...  I was trying to
generalize it.  To make a callback where one callback could be used for more
than one object, with more than one datasource.  It got ugly pretty quick.
If you have 500 combos in a big app and wanted to use a callback for many of
them, it gets painful building a new one for each object.

John W. Colby
Colby Consulting
www.ColbyConsulting.com

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of DWUTKA at marlow.com
Sent: Friday, November 03, 2006 5:21 PM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Strategies for populating combo boxes

Access 97's help file was a pretty easy read to do it, along with a sample
function.

Drew

-----Original Message-----
From: JWColby [mailto:jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com]
Sent: Friday, November 03, 2006 4:17 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Strategies for populating combo boxes

Cool!  Good to know.  

And are you sure that combos are limited to 65K?  I seem to remember
actually running into the 32K limit, but it was awhile ago so don't sue me
if I'm wrong.  I do know that they slooowed waaaaaay doooowwwwwn at that
size. 

Now you can talk him through a callback function.  There's a subject not for
the faint of heart (at least to truly understand).

John W. Colby
Colby Consulting
www.ColbyConsulting.com

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of DWUTKA at marlow.com
Sent: Friday, November 03, 2006 4:43 PM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Strategies for populating combo boxes

Combos are limited to 65k. But I just whipped together a quick routine to
add a long integer to a collection.  In debug mode, without external
indication of how fast it was going, I stopped it for after about 20
seconds, and it had millions in the collection already.  Populating the
display with the collections count property ran over 65k in about a minute.
I would say the limit is closer to 2^31.

Drew

-----Original Message-----
From: JWColby [mailto:jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com]
Sent: Friday, November 03, 2006 2:50 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Strategies for populating combo boxes

Drew,

I was going to suggest this, however IIRC (and I was going to test this the
other day), collections are limited to 2^15 items in the collection (~32 k
items).  I seem to remember that he has some large tables. 


John W. Colby
Colby Consulting
www.ColbyConsulting.com

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of DWUTKA at marlow.com
Sent: Friday, November 03, 2006 3:25 PM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Strategies for populating combo boxes

Build a collection, pull the records once to fill the collection, then
populate the combos from a Callback function (which would get the data from
the collection, vs. the recordset)

Drew

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From gregsmith at starband.net  Tue Nov  7 13:21:25 2006
From: gregsmith at starband.net (Greg Smith)
Date: Tue, 7 Nov 2006 13:21:25 -0600
Subject: [AccessD] XML Import into Access 2003 (2nd retry w/o html)
In-Reply-To: <BAY127-F35BB73EB5B91751EDEDDD0D2FE0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <000001c702a1$eeef5140$130a000a@DadsDell>

Thanks for the response and help Marty.  Sorry for my slow thanks, but I've
also been working with the people who provide the XML file to me to see if
they can come up with a transform I could use for importing the data into
Access.  

Greg


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of MartyConnelly
Sent: Friday, November 03, 2006 7:25 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] XML Import into Access 2003 (2nd retry w/o html)

Here is another VB.Net  variation that might help  How Do I...Read XML from
an XmlDataDocument?
http://samples.gotdotnet.com/quickstart/howto/doc/Xml/StreamXmlDocument.aspx

I think by rewriting the FormatXML function you could generate Entity only
XML file


Greg Smith wrote:

> (This is a second resend - my first one was html to illustrate the 
>color layout for ease of reading the XML, but it turns out to be too 
>large, so here it is in text only format)
>
>Hi everyone!  It's been a while, or seems like it anyway!  Hope 
>everyone is well...<snip>



From DWUTKA at marlow.com  Tue Nov  7 16:28:18 2006
From: DWUTKA at marlow.com (DWUTKA at marlow.com)
Date: Tue, 7 Nov 2006 16:28:18 -0600 
Subject: [AccessD] Strategies for populating combo boxes
Message-ID: <17724746D360394AA3BFE5B8D40A9C1B0139B2BF@MARLOW_MAIN2.marlow.com>

I completely understand how often the callback function is called, however,
what I was explaining is that the process is identical to how the other
methods work, internally.

Take for example the Window APIs and their callbacks.  Enum windows will go
through all of the windows on your machine, and you can enumerate child
windows too.  I have a little utility that I wrote (to move windows that
have 'lost' their coordinates, and appear off the screen) that enumerates
ALL windows on your machine, including child windows.  It takes a split
second to run, and a lot of the processing time is in building the treeview.

Sometimes you have to take the hit with performance though.  The advantage
of a callback function is that you can present data on the fly, so if you
need to process something when it's is asking for values you can, it's just
going to be slower then a static array (or a collection, or another method
for a data source).

Drew

-----Original Message-----
From: Shamil Salakhetdinov [mailto:shamil at users.mns.ru] 
Sent: Tuesday, November 07, 2006 12:30 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Strategies for populating combo boxes

Drew and Gustav,

I will try to "cook" a sample where static array caching can't be used and
then a combo could result in datasheet form scrolling slowdown...

If I will not come with such a sample here in a month (no time currently to
trick around it) then the case I mentioned was the case of the bad callback
function design.

BTW, in MS Access online help is written: "The number of times your
user-defined function is called for acLBGetValue and acLBGetFormat to get
list entries and to format strings varies depending on the number of
entries, the user's scrolling, and other factors." 

"The user's scrolling" they say - be aware of that when using callback
functions - this is what I meant first of all...

--
Shamil 

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of DWUTKA at marlow.com
Sent: Tuesday, November 07, 2006 6:42 PM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Strategies for populating combo boxes

ALL combos/listboxes are doing the same thing as one populated by a callback
function.  It's just simply how a listbox/combobox 'window' works.  

All of the calls to a callback function are just simply being handled by an
internal callback when one of the other three methods are used (recordsoure,
fieldlist, value list).  

If you are experiencing slowdown in your callback function, you need to look
at when your callback function is doing.  If you are requerying at ANY point
other then the initialization, then there is a problem, because that takes
time.

Drew

-----Original Message-----
From: Shamil Salakhetdinov [mailto:shamil at users.mns.ru] 
Sent: Tuesday, November 07, 2006 6:20 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Strategies for populating combo boxes

<<<
It seems like an interesting option.
>>>
Don,

Yes, that is an interesting and useful option but be careful with combos
having many entries filled by callback functions while using them in
datasheet/continuous view forms - AFAIKR such combos are refilled every time
they get shown while you're scrolling rows - as a result you get "brain
damaged" datasheet forms reacting very slowly while scrolling them: if you,
e.g. have a combo, which is filled by callback function in half a second
them for a datasheet form with 10 visible rows this combo's filling will
take ~5 seconds when you push [PgDn]/[PgUp]...

Talking about that from memory - last time I used combos with callback
functions in MS Access 97 and I had met this nasty side-effect effect
mentioned above. Did they (MS) fix the issue in MS Access 2000/XP/2003/2007?
- I doubt they did but I can be wrong and therefore my above remark has to
be retested...

Temporary tables refilled on demand are usually satisfactory when used as a
base of dynamic combos. Of course these temp tables should be kept in
dedicated temp databases, which should be automatically compacted once in a
while...

Temp tables or dynamic on demand SQL used for combos' rowsource when combos
get focus of user typed a few chars are not the source of the "brain damaged
datasheet" side effect - the easy guess here is that MS Access "knows" (/get
cached) all the entries of such combos and therefore it (MS Access) is able
to go through all the visible rows and to keep shown/clear combos' values -
in the case of callback functions it (MS Access) have to get combos' entries
for every combo of every (newly) displayed row....

--
Shamil
 

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of McGillivray, Don
[IT]
Sent: Tuesday, November 07, 2006 7:36 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Strategies for populating combo boxes

Wow.  I stepped away for a couple of days and find a full blown discussion
in my wake.  

There's only one table and it has about 1.1 million records and 35 columns,
only about 10 of which contain data that they want to be able to select from
the combos.  I settled on a temp table to hold the desired lists.  Col 1 has
the control's name, col 2 the value.  The report selection form sets the
rowsource for each combo on open.  Takes only a few seconds.  I added a
routine to populate the temp table upon demand whenever the main table has
been refreshed (about once per quarter, I'm told.)  So far, there are no
more than about 27K rows in the largest combo list.  The others are in the
tens or hundreds.  I'm glad to know of the limit, though.  I'll be able to
warn of a potential for difficulty there.  

Drew, thanks for the idea about callback functions.  And, JC, thanks for the
warnings about comprehending them.  I've looked at them before and didn't
quite get it.  I feel better knowing that even you found them head-twisting.
I'll have another go.  It seems like an interesting option.

Thanks to all for the suggestions!

Don

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of DWUTKA at marlow.com
Sent: Friday, November 03, 2006 3:11 PM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Strategies for populating combo boxes

Oh, well I only use a callback when it's called for. (pun intended).  Most
common functions of a callback are just fine for 99% of what you need a
combo for.  The callback functionality is best for that other 1%.  For
instance, I wrote a utility that let you print or preview reports in a
database.  Using a value list runs into trouble if you have too many
reports, because it can only be ~2048 characters in length.  A callback did
the trick.

Also in tricky situations, like the one described in this thread, callbacks
provide better control of a combo/listbox.

Drew

-----Original Message-----
From: JWColby [mailto:jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com] 
Sent: Friday, November 03, 2006 5:02 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Strategies for populating combo boxes

LOL.  And I did and have, but to actually understand it...  I was trying to
generalize it.  To make a callback where one callback could be used for more
than one object, with more than one datasource.  It got ugly pretty quick.
If you have 500 combos in a big app and wanted to use a callback for many of
them, it gets painful building a new one for each object.

John W. Colby
Colby Consulting
www.ColbyConsulting.com

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of DWUTKA at marlow.com
Sent: Friday, November 03, 2006 5:21 PM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Strategies for populating combo boxes

Access 97's help file was a pretty easy read to do it, along with a sample
function.

Drew

-----Original Message-----
From: JWColby [mailto:jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com]
Sent: Friday, November 03, 2006 4:17 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Strategies for populating combo boxes

Cool!  Good to know.  

And are you sure that combos are limited to 65K?  I seem to remember
actually running into the 32K limit, but it was awhile ago so don't sue me
if I'm wrong.  I do know that they slooowed waaaaaay doooowwwwwn at that
size. 

Now you can talk him through a callback function.  There's a subject not for
the faint of heart (at least to truly understand).

John W. Colby
Colby Consulting
www.ColbyConsulting.com

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of DWUTKA at marlow.com
Sent: Friday, November 03, 2006 4:43 PM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Strategies for populating combo boxes

Combos are limited to 65k. But I just whipped together a quick routine to
add a long integer to a collection.  In debug mode, without external
indication of how fast it was going, I stopped it for after about 20
seconds, and it had millions in the collection already.  Populating the
display with the collections count property ran over 65k in about a minute.
I would say the limit is closer to 2^31.

Drew

-----Original Message-----
From: JWColby [mailto:jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com]
Sent: Friday, November 03, 2006 2:50 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Strategies for populating combo boxes

Drew,

I was going to suggest this, however IIRC (and I was going to test this the
other day), collections are limited to 2^15 items in the collection (~32 k
items).  I seem to remember that he has some large tables. 


John W. Colby
Colby Consulting
www.ColbyConsulting.com

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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of DWUTKA at marlow.com
Sent: Friday, November 03, 2006 3:25 PM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Strategies for populating combo boxes

Build a collection, pull the records once to fill the collection, then
populate the combos from a Callback function (which would get the data from
the collection, vs. the recordset)

Drew

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From fahooper at trapo.com  Tue Nov  7 18:55:36 2006
From: fahooper at trapo.com (Fred Hooper)
Date: Tue, 7 Nov 2006 19:55:36 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Closing an open file
In-Reply-To: <01a001c7028d$1e85adb0$7001a8c0@LaptopXP>
Message-ID: <002901c702d0$99f59490$b414c048@fredxp>

Hi John,

I'd forgotten how messy it is to use; very flexible but it can be tedious.

The general process is (1) Run one of the PsTools to find out who has the
file open, (2) place a batch file on the server that the file you want to
close is on (actually, you're breaking the link to the open file -- it's
still "open" on the user's pc), (3) place a batch file on your pc that will
execute the batch file on the server using one of the PsTools, and (4) If
you're polite you notify the user that the link has been broken. For most of
these steps you should check that they were successful.

I used it in a VB program for copying Cognos cubes (for which dropping a
direct user is a subset of the issues). I'm sending a copy to you off list
as it's too big to attach. Look particularly at the "Copy Locked Cube"
section.

Fred

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of John Skolits
Sent: Tuesday, November 07, 2006 11:52 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Closing an open file

Drew,

I'm looking at sysinternals.com like Fred Hooper suggested. Still trying to
figure out how to use it, especially through VBA. 

If it doesn't work out, I'll go down your suggested road.

John



From Gustav at cactus.dk  Wed Nov  8 04:34:39 2006
From: Gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Wed, 08 Nov 2006 11:34:39 +0100
Subject: [AccessD] Strategies for populating combo boxes
Message-ID: <s551c0f8.051@cactus.dk>

Hi Shamil

Very good.

Of course, if the data aren't static a static array (or static collection or static recordset) cannot be used or, at least, it has to be refilled/required somehow when the underlying data changes. A global variable can be used which is set when data change and reset after the array is refilled.

To watch how intensely a callback function is called, insert a debug line like this:

Public Function OrderListPrint( _
  ctl As Control, _
  ID As Long, _
  row As Long, _
  col As Long, _
  Code As Integer)
  
  Static astrPrint(1 To 7) As String
  
  Dim varValue            As Variant
  Dim lngCount            As Long
  
  Select Case Code
    Case acLBInitialize
      ' Global variable can be set to force a refill of array.
      If Len(astrPrint(1)) = 0 Or pbooRefill = True Then
        ' Fill array.
        For lngCount = 1 To 7
          astrPrint(lngCount) = GetMsg("SaleId90" & lngCount)
        Next
        ' Reset global variable.
        pbooRefill = False
      End If
      varValue = True
    Case acLBOpen
      varValue = Timer
    Case acLBGetRowCount
      varValue = 7    ' Rows.
    Case acLBGetColumnCount
      varValue = 2    ' Columns.
    Case acLBGetColumnWidth
      varValue = -1   ' Column width.
    Case acLBGetValue
      If col = 0 Then
        varValue = row + 1
      ElseIf col = 1 Then
        varValue = astrPrint(row + 1)
      End If
    Case acLBGetFormat     ' Format the data.
      ' varValue = strFormat      
    Case acLBEnd
      ' Do something when form with listbox closes or
      ' listbox is requeried.
  End Select
  
  Debug.Print code, varValue
  OrderListPrint = varValue
    
End Function

/gustav

>>> shamil at users.mns.ru 07-11-2006 19:29:37 >>>
Drew and Gustav,

I will try to "cook" a sample where static array caching can't be used and
then a combo could result in datasheet form scrolling slowdown...

If I will not come with such a sample here in a month (no time currently to
trick around it) then the case I mentioned was the case of the bad callback
function design.

BTW, in MS Access online help is written: "The number of times your
user-defined function is called for acLBGetValue and acLBGetFormat to get
list entries and to format strings varies depending on the number of
entries, the user's scrolling, and other factors." 

"The user's scrolling" they say - be aware of that when using callback
functions - this is what I meant first of all...

--
Shamil 




From askolits at ot.com  Wed Nov  8 06:37:03 2006
From: askolits at ot.com (John Skolits)
Date: Wed, 8 Nov 2006 07:37:03 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Closing an open file
In-Reply-To: <002901c702d0$99f59490$b414c048@fredxp>
Message-ID: <007001c70332$9b70af50$7001a8c0@LaptopXP>

Thanks Fred! I really appreciate it.

John

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Fred Hooper
Sent: Tuesday, November 07, 2006 7:56 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Closing an open file

Hi John,

I'd forgotten how messy it is to use; very flexible but it can be tedious.

The general process is (1) Run one of the PsTools to find out who has the
file open, (2) place a batch file on the server that the file you want to
close is on (actually, you're breaking the link to the open file -- it's
still "open" on the user's pc), (3) place a batch file on your pc that will
execute the batch file on the server using one of the PsTools, and (4) If
you're polite you notify the user that the link has been broken. For most of
these steps you should check that they were successful.

I used it in a VB program for copying Cognos cubes (for which dropping a
direct user is a subset of the issues). I'm sending a copy to you off list
as it's too big to attach. Look particularly at the "Copy Locked Cube"
section.

Fred

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of John Skolits
Sent: Tuesday, November 07, 2006 11:52 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Closing an open file

Drew,

I'm looking at sysinternals.com like Fred Hooper suggested. Still trying to
figure out how to use it, especially through VBA. 

If it doesn't work out, I'll go down your suggested road.

John

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From Gustav at cactus.dk  Wed Nov  8 10:01:48 2006
From: Gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Wed, 08 Nov 2006 17:01:48 +0100
Subject: [AccessD] DBDesigner 4, database design, documentation
Message-ID: <s5520d8b.065@cactus.dk>

Hi all

Just located the DBDesigner 4 free open source tool for database design
with focus on MySQL:

  http://www.fabforce.net 

<quote>
DBDesigner 4 is a visual database design system that integrates
database design, modeling, creation and maintenance into a single,
seamless environment.

It combines professional features and a clear and simple user interface
to offer the most efficient way to handle your databases.

DBDesigner 4 compares to products like Oracle's Designer?, IBM's
Rational Rose?, Computer Associates's ERwin? and theKompany's
DataArchitect? but is an Open Source Project available for Microsoft
Windows? 2k/XP and Linux KDE/Gnome. It is release on the GPL.
</quote>

It will work with SQL Server, SQLite, Oracle and Access via ODBC as
well. It's not targeted at Access developers but may be of use anyway.

/gustav



From john at winhaven.net  Wed Nov  8 14:00:12 2006
From: john at winhaven.net (John Bartow)
Date: Wed, 8 Nov 2006 14:00:12 -0600
Subject: [AccessD] A2k3 system.mdw
In-Reply-To: <000301c6fddd$93c46800$0200a8c0@danwaters>
Message-ID: <200611082000.kA8K0Eq31931@databaseadvisors.com>

Dan,
BTW good idea, but that didn't work for me. I'm using MSDN subscription
install and I can't seem to get it to work correctly. Probably need the
exact disk I installed it from or something and that would be a major task
to figure out.

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Dan Waters
Sent: Wednesday, November 01, 2006 11:46 AM

This might be a long shot but you might do a 'Detect and Repair' for Office.
It might ask you to install the setup disk.



From Kwilliamson at RTKL.com  Thu Nov  9 08:32:15 2006
From: Kwilliamson at RTKL.com (Keith Williamson)
Date: Thu, 9 Nov 2006 09:32:15 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] test
In-Reply-To: <s5520d8b.065@cactus.dk>
Message-ID: <EFFF0FE60ECFB4429947B7659801327B04EC1FEA@EDGAR.rtkl.rtkl.net>

Test!!  Just testing from my new work.  Haven't seen any posting since
early yesterday.



Keith E. Williamson | Assist. Controller| kwilliamson at rtkl.com

RTKL Associates Inc. | 901 South Bond Street | Baltimore, Maryland
21231-3305

410-537-6098 direct | 410-276-2136 fax | www.rtkl.com



From garykjos at gmail.com  Thu Nov  9 08:57:53 2006
From: garykjos at gmail.com (Gary Kjos)
Date: Thu, 9 Nov 2006 08:57:53 -0600
Subject: [AccessD] test
In-Reply-To: <EFFF0FE60ECFB4429947B7659801327B04EC1FEA@EDGAR.rtkl.rtkl.net>
References: <s5520d8b.065@cactus.dk>
	<EFFF0FE60ECFB4429947B7659801327B04EC1FEA@EDGAR.rtkl.rtkl.net>
Message-ID: <aea6c4950611090657k700d5c3en1487f0e60b46b485@mail.gmail.com>

Hi Keith. How's the new job?  GK

On 11/9/06, Keith Williamson <Kwilliamson at rtkl.com> wrote:
> Test!!  Just testing from my new work.  Haven't seen any posting since
> early yesterday.
>
>
>
> Keith E. Williamson | Assist. Controller| kwilliamson at rtkl.com
>
> RTKL Associates Inc. | 901 South Bond Street | Baltimore, Maryland
> 21231-3305
>
> 410-537-6098 direct | 410-276-2136 fax | www.rtkl.com
>
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From Kwilliamson at RTKL.com  Thu Nov  9 09:12:29 2006
From: Kwilliamson at RTKL.com (Keith Williamson)
Date: Thu, 9 Nov 2006 10:12:29 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] test
In-Reply-To: <aea6c4950611090657k700d5c3en1487f0e60b46b485@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <EFFF0FE60ECFB4429947B7659801327B04EC2080@EDGAR.rtkl.rtkl.net>

Thanks, Gary.  All is great.  Although.....street cleaner might have
been a step up.

:)

Keith E. Williamson | Assist. Controller| kwilliamson at rtkl.com

RTKL Associates Inc. | 901 South Bond Street | Baltimore, Maryland
21231-3305

410-537-6098 direct | 410-276-2136 fax | www.rtkl.com


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gary Kjos
Sent: Thursday, November 09, 2006 9:58 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] test

Hi Keith. How's the new job?  GK

On 11/9/06, Keith Williamson <Kwilliamson at rtkl.com> wrote:
> Test!!  Just testing from my new work.  Haven't seen any posting since
> early yesterday.
>
>
>
> Keith E. Williamson | Assist. Controller| kwilliamson at rtkl.com
>
> RTKL Associates Inc. | 901 South Bond Street | Baltimore, Maryland
> 21231-3305
>
> 410-537-6098 direct | 410-276-2136 fax | www.rtkl.com
>
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From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com  Thu Nov  9 09:23:25 2006
From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (JWColby)
Date: Thu, 9 Nov 2006 10:23:25 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] test
In-Reply-To: <EFFF0FE60ECFB4429947B7659801327B04EC2080@EDGAR.rtkl.rtkl.net>
Message-ID: <001301c70413$0082cb90$657aa8c0@m6805>

LOL, I hope you didn't send that message from the new job.  You might be
applying for street sweeper.

;-)

John W. Colby
Colby Consulting
www.ColbyConsulting.com

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Keith Williamson
Sent: Thursday, November 09, 2006 10:12 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] test

Thanks, Gary.  All is great.  Although.....street cleaner might have been a
step up.

:)

Keith E. Williamson | Assist. Controller| kwilliamson at rtkl.com

RTKL Associates Inc. | 901 South Bond Street | Baltimore, Maryland
21231-3305

410-537-6098 direct | 410-276-2136 fax | www.rtkl.com


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gary Kjos
Sent: Thursday, November 09, 2006 9:58 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] test

Hi Keith. How's the new job?  GK

On 11/9/06, Keith Williamson <Kwilliamson at rtkl.com> wrote:
> Test!!  Just testing from my new work.  Haven't seen any posting since 
> early yesterday.
>
>
>
> Keith E. Williamson | Assist. Controller| kwilliamson at rtkl.com
>
> RTKL Associates Inc. | 901 South Bond Street | Baltimore, Maryland
> 21231-3305
>
> 410-537-6098 direct | 410-276-2136 fax | www.rtkl.com
>
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From Jim.Hale at FleetPride.com  Thu Nov  9 09:28:17 2006
From: Jim.Hale at FleetPride.com (Hale, Jim)
Date: Thu, 9 Nov 2006 09:28:17 -0600 
Subject: [AccessD] test
Message-ID: <6A6AA9DF57E4F046BDA1E273BDDB67727DE0E7@corp-es01.fleetpride.com>

Yea, I'm continually reminded by my cohorts that an auditor is the fella
whose job is to bayonet the wounded after the battle has already been fought
and an accountant is the fella who sweeps up after the elephant has already
passed in the parade. :~]
Jim Hale

-----Original Message-----
From: Keith Williamson [mailto:Kwilliamson at rtkl.com]
Sent: Thursday, November 09, 2006 9:12 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] test


Thanks, Gary.  All is great.  Although.....street cleaner might have
been a step up.

:)

Keith E. Williamson | Assist. Controller| kwilliamson at rtkl.com

RTKL Associates Inc. | 901 South Bond Street | Baltimore, Maryland
21231-3305

410-537-6098 direct | 410-276-2136 fax | www.rtkl.com


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gary Kjos
Sent: Thursday, November 09, 2006 9:58 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] test

Hi Keith. How's the new job?  GK

On 11/9/06, Keith Williamson <Kwilliamson at rtkl.com> wrote:
> Test!!  Just testing from my new work.  Haven't seen any posting since
> early yesterday.
>
>
>
> Keith E. Williamson | Assist. Controller| kwilliamson at rtkl.com
>
> RTKL Associates Inc. | 901 South Bond Street | Baltimore, Maryland
> 21231-3305
>
> 410-537-6098 direct | 410-276-2136 fax | www.rtkl.com
>
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From garykjos at gmail.com  Thu Nov  9 09:29:34 2006
From: garykjos at gmail.com (Gary Kjos)
Date: Thu, 9 Nov 2006 09:29:34 -0600
Subject: [AccessD] test
In-Reply-To: <001301c70413$0082cb90$657aa8c0@m6805>
References: <EFFF0FE60ECFB4429947B7659801327B04EC2080@EDGAR.rtkl.rtkl.net>
	<001301c70413$0082cb90$657aa8c0@m6805>
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As Judge Smales says in Caddyshack, "The world needs ditch diggers too!"

GK

On 11/9/06, JWColby <jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com> wrote:
> LOL, I hope you didn't send that message from the new job.  You might be
> applying for street sweeper.
>
> ;-)
>
> John W. Colby
> Colby Consulting
> www.ColbyConsulting.com
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Keith Williamson
> Sent: Thursday, November 09, 2006 10:12 AM
> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] test
>
> Thanks, Gary.  All is great.  Although.....street cleaner might have been a
> step up.
>
> :)
>
> Keith E. Williamson | Assist. Controller| kwilliamson at rtkl.com
>
> RTKL Associates Inc. | 901 South Bond Street | Baltimore, Maryland
> 21231-3305
>
> 410-537-6098 direct | 410-276-2136 fax | www.rtkl.com
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gary Kjos
> Sent: Thursday, November 09, 2006 9:58 AM
> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] test
>
> Hi Keith. How's the new job?  GK
>
> On 11/9/06, Keith Williamson <Kwilliamson at rtkl.com> wrote:
> > Test!!  Just testing from my new work.  Haven't seen any posting since
> > early yesterday.
> >
> >
> >
> > Keith E. Williamson | Assist. Controller| kwilliamson at rtkl.com
> >
> > RTKL Associates Inc. | 901 South Bond Street | Baltimore, Maryland
> > 21231-3305
> >
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> >
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From Kwilliamson at RTKL.com  Thu Nov  9 09:33:55 2006
From: Kwilliamson at RTKL.com (Keith Williamson)
Date: Thu, 9 Nov 2006 10:33:55 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] test
In-Reply-To: <001301c70413$0082cb90$657aa8c0@m6805>
Message-ID: <EFFF0FE60ECFB4429947B7659801327B04EC20BF@EDGAR.rtkl.rtkl.net>

To be clear, street cleaner would have been a step up from the OLD
job...not the new.  :)

{wanted to make sure that any prying eyes understood...cause yes...this
is from my new job.}

:)

Keith E. Williamson | Assist. Controller| kwilliamson at rtkl.com

RTKL Associates Inc. | 901 South Bond Street | Baltimore, Maryland
21231-3305

410-537-6098 direct | 410-276-2136 fax | www.rtkl.com


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of JWColby
Sent: Thursday, November 09, 2006 10:23 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: Re: [AccessD] test

LOL, I hope you didn't send that message from the new job.  You might be
applying for street sweeper.

;-)

John W. Colby
Colby Consulting
www.ColbyConsulting.com

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Keith
Williamson
Sent: Thursday, November 09, 2006 10:12 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] test

Thanks, Gary.  All is great.  Although.....street cleaner might have
been a
step up.

:)

Keith E. Williamson | Assist. Controller| kwilliamson at rtkl.com

RTKL Associates Inc. | 901 South Bond Street | Baltimore, Maryland
21231-3305

410-537-6098 direct | 410-276-2136 fax | www.rtkl.com


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gary Kjos
Sent: Thursday, November 09, 2006 9:58 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] test

Hi Keith. How's the new job?  GK

On 11/9/06, Keith Williamson <Kwilliamson at rtkl.com> wrote:
> Test!!  Just testing from my new work.  Haven't seen any posting since

> early yesterday.
>
>
>
> Keith E. Williamson | Assist. Controller| kwilliamson at rtkl.com
>
> RTKL Associates Inc. | 901 South Bond Street | Baltimore, Maryland
> 21231-3305
>
> 410-537-6098 direct | 410-276-2136 fax | www.rtkl.com
>
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From dgibso at uark.edu  Thu Nov  9 09:53:59 2006
From: dgibso at uark.edu (David A Gibson)
Date: Thu, 09 Nov 2006 09:53:59 -0600
Subject: [AccessD] test
In-Reply-To: <6A6AA9DF57E4F046BDA1E273BDDB67727DE0E7@corp-es01.fleetprid e.com>
References: <6A6AA9DF57E4F046BDA1E273BDDB67727DE0E7@corp-es01.fleetpride.com>
Message-ID: <7.0.1.0.0.20061109095233.01dbec40@uark.edu>

You might also add that a Statistician is someone who lacks the 
personality to be an Accountant.

David G.

At 09:28 AM 11/9/2006, you wrote:
>Yea, I'm continually reminded by my cohorts that an auditor is the fella
>whose job is to bayonet the wounded after the battle has already been fought
>and an accountant is the fella who sweeps up after the elephant has already
>passed in the parade. :~]
>Jim Hale
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Keith Williamson [mailto:Kwilliamson at rtkl.com]
>Sent: Thursday, November 09, 2006 9:12 AM
>To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
>Subject: Re: [AccessD] test
>
>
>Thanks, Gary.  All is great.  Although.....street cleaner might have
>been a step up.
>
>:)
>
>Keith E. Williamson | Assist. Controller| kwilliamson at rtkl.com
>
>RTKL Associates Inc. | 901 South Bond Street | Baltimore, Maryland
>21231-3305
>
>410-537-6098 direct | 410-276-2136 fax | www.rtkl.com
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gary Kjos
>Sent: Thursday, November 09, 2006 9:58 AM
>To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
>Subject: Re: [AccessD] test
>
>Hi Keith. How's the new job?  GK
>
>On 11/9/06, Keith Williamson <Kwilliamson at rtkl.com> wrote:
> > Test!!  Just testing from my new work.  Haven't seen any posting since
> > early yesterday.
> >
> >
> >
> > Keith E. Williamson | Assist. Controller| kwilliamson at rtkl.com
> >
> > RTKL Associates Inc. | 901 South Bond Street | Baltimore, Maryland
> > 21231-3305
> >
> > 410-537-6098 direct | 410-276-2136 fax | www.rtkl.com
> >
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From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com  Thu Nov  9 10:04:57 2006
From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (JWColby)
Date: Thu, 9 Nov 2006 11:04:57 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] test
In-Reply-To: <EFFF0FE60ECFB4429947B7659801327B04EC20BF@EDGAR.rtkl.rtkl.net>
Message-ID: <001f01c70418$ce1753f0$657aa8c0@m6805>

ROTFLMAO!!! 

John W. Colby
Colby Consulting
www.ColbyConsulting.com

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Keith Williamson
Sent: Thursday, November 09, 2006 10:34 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] test

To be clear, street cleaner would have been a step up from the OLD job...not
the new.  :)

{wanted to make sure that any prying eyes understood...cause yes...this is
from my new job.}

:)

Keith E. Williamson | Assist. Controller| kwilliamson at rtkl.com

RTKL Associates Inc. | 901 South Bond Street | Baltimore, Maryland
21231-3305

410-537-6098 direct | 410-276-2136 fax | www.rtkl.com


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of JWColby
Sent: Thursday, November 09, 2006 10:23 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: Re: [AccessD] test

LOL, I hope you didn't send that message from the new job.  You might be
applying for street sweeper.

;-)

John W. Colby
Colby Consulting
www.ColbyConsulting.com

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Keith Williamson
Sent: Thursday, November 09, 2006 10:12 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] test

Thanks, Gary.  All is great.  Although.....street cleaner might have been a
step up.

:)

Keith E. Williamson | Assist. Controller| kwilliamson at rtkl.com

RTKL Associates Inc. | 901 South Bond Street | Baltimore, Maryland
21231-3305

410-537-6098 direct | 410-276-2136 fax | www.rtkl.com


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gary Kjos
Sent: Thursday, November 09, 2006 9:58 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] test

Hi Keith. How's the new job?  GK

On 11/9/06, Keith Williamson <Kwilliamson at rtkl.com> wrote:
> Test!!  Just testing from my new work.  Haven't seen any posting since

> early yesterday.
>
>
>
> Keith E. Williamson | Assist. Controller| kwilliamson at rtkl.com
>
> RTKL Associates Inc. | 901 South Bond Street | Baltimore, Maryland
> 21231-3305
>
> 410-537-6098 direct | 410-276-2136 fax | www.rtkl.com
>
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From ssharkins at setel.com  Thu Nov  9 12:45:43 2006
From: ssharkins at setel.com (Susan Harkins)
Date: Thu, 9 Nov 2006 13:45:43 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Interesting behavior with Val()
Message-ID: <006901c7042f$43c53480$b034fad1@SUSANONE>

I've read Help looking for an explanation for what I'm about to say, but
haven't found one. 
 
The following expression returns 1 if value has no numeric digits:
 
Len(Val(value))
 
I expected the expression to return 0. You can test this on the Employees
table in Northwind -- there are two records where the Address value is alpha
text, with no numeric digits at the beginning of the value. The above
expression, against those two values, returns 1. 
 
What am I missing? 
 
Susan H. 


From ssharkins at setel.com  Thu Nov  9 13:05:07 2006
From: ssharkins at setel.com (Susan Harkins)
Date: Thu, 9 Nov 2006 14:05:07 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Nevermind (RE:  Interesting behavior with Val())
In-Reply-To: <006901c7042f$43c53480$b034fad1@SUSANONE>
Message-ID: <007c01c70431$fa92ecf0$b034fad1@SUSANONE>

Sometimes I suffer from serious disconnect... 

Susan H. 
 
 
I expected the expression to return 0. You can test this on the Employees
table in Northwind -- there are two records where the 



From bheid at appdevgrp.com  Thu Nov  9 13:06:16 2006
From: bheid at appdevgrp.com (Bobby Heid)
Date: Thu, 9 Nov 2006 14:06:16 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Interesting behavior with Val()
In-Reply-To: <916187228923D311A6FE00A0CC3FAA30E6F48B@ADGSERVER>
Message-ID: <916187228923D311A6FE00A0CC3FAA30D35A86@ADGSERVER>

Because Val returns 0 and the length of "0" is 1.

In the immediate window try: ? val("abc")


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Susan Harkins
Sent: Thursday, November 09, 2006 1:46 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] Interesting behavior with Val()


I've read Help looking for an explanation for what I'm about to say, but
haven't found one. 
 
The following expression returns 1 if value has no numeric digits:
 
Len(Val(value))
 
I expected the expression to return 0. You can test this on the Employees
table in Northwind -- there are two records where the Address value is alpha
text, with no numeric digits at the beginning of the value. The above
expression, against those two values, returns 1. 
 
What am I missing? 
 
Susan H. 



From ssharkins at setel.com  Thu Nov  9 13:19:00 2006
From: ssharkins at setel.com (Susan Harkins)
Date: Thu, 9 Nov 2006 14:19:00 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Interesting behavior with Val()
In-Reply-To: <916187228923D311A6FE00A0CC3FAA30D35A86@ADGSERVER>
Message-ID: <008301c70433$e9aa3e00$b034fad1@SUSANONE>

Bobby, I realized that as soon as I sent the question -- sorry. But thank
you for responding! ;) I had 0 stuck in the brain, without following the
process all the way through. Some days are harder than  others. 

Susan H. 

Because Val returns 0 and the length of "0" is 1.





From Lambert.Heenan at AIG.com  Thu Nov  9 13:22:13 2006
From: Lambert.Heenan at AIG.com (Heenan, Lambert)
Date: Thu, 9 Nov 2006 13:22:13 -0600 
Subject: [AccessD] Interesting behavior with Val()
Message-ID: <E762D59BC2D0694998629044C75FA28503A9C3BC@xlivmbx26.aig.com>

Well, while the help file is not explicit on this, the results you are
seeing do make sense. Val() is supposed to extract a numeric value from the
left end of a string, skipping over any spaces and the recognizing "&O" and
"&H" to indicate Octal and Hex numbers. 

So Val("1abcde") will return 1, but Val("abcd") will return 0 (zero).  This
is because Val() is declare as returning a double, so the "value" of an all
alpha string is treated as zero.

And so Len(Val("abcd")) will be 1 not zero.

If your intent was to find out if a string *begins* with a numeric value
then you could try...

If IsNumeric(Left(Trim(strValue),1)) Then
	' Got a digit
Else
	' Does not start with a digit
End If

Lambert 

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Susan Harkins
Sent: Thursday, November 09, 2006 1:46 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] Interesting behavior with Val()


I've read Help looking for an explanation for what I'm about to say, but
haven't found one. 
 
The following expression returns 1 if value has no numeric digits:
 
Len(Val(value))
 
I expected the expression to return 0. You can test this on the Employees
table in Northwind -- there are two records where the Address value is alpha
text, with no numeric digits at the beginning of the value. The above
expression, against those two values, returns 1. 
 
What am I missing? 
 
Susan H. 
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From DWUTKA at marlow.com  Thu Nov  9 15:46:08 2006
From: DWUTKA at marlow.com (DWUTKA at marlow.com)
Date: Thu, 9 Nov 2006 15:46:08 -0600 
Subject: [AccessD] Interesting behavior with Val()
Message-ID: <17724746D360394AA3BFE5B8D40A9C1B0139B51A@MARLOW_MAIN2.marlow.com>

Val is returning 0, which has a length of 1.

Drew

-----Original Message-----
From: Susan Harkins [mailto:ssharkins at setel.com] 
Sent: Thursday, November 09, 2006 12:46 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] Interesting behavior with Val()

I've read Help looking for an explanation for what I'm about to say, but
haven't found one. 
 
The following expression returns 1 if value has no numeric digits:
 
Len(Val(value))
 
I expected the expression to return 0. You can test this on the Employees
table in Northwind -- there are two records where the Address value is alpha
text, with no numeric digits at the beginning of the value. The above
expression, against those two values, returns 1. 
 
What am I missing? 
 
Susan H. 
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From cclenright at yahoo.com  Thu Nov  9 15:52:07 2006
From: cclenright at yahoo.com (Chris Enright)
Date: Thu, 9 Nov 2006 13:52:07 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [AccessD] test
Message-ID: <20061109215207.80130.qmail@web34304.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

v\:* {behavior:url (#default#vml);}v\:* {	BEHAVIOR: url (#default#vml)}
Which brings to mind the phrase attributed to Benjamin Disraeli:

"There are three kinds of lies: lies, damn lies, and statistics"
 Chris E
 
-------Original Message-------
 
From: David A Gibson
Date: 09/11/2006 15:59:13
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] test

 
You might also add that a Statistician is someone who lacks the
personality to be an Accountant.
 
David G.
 
At 09:28 AM 11/9/2006, you wrote:
>Yea, I'm continually reminded by my cohorts that an auditor is the fella
>whose job is to bayonet the wounded after the battle has already been fought
>and an accountant is the fella who sweeps up after the elephant has already
>passed in the parade. :~]
>Jim Hale
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Keith Williamson [mailto:Kwilliamson at rtkl.com]
>Sent: Thursday, November 09, 2006 9:12 AM
>To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
>Subject: Re: [AccessD] test
>
>
>Thanks, Gary.  All is great.  Although.....street cleaner might have
>been a step up.
>
>:)
>
>Keith E. Williamson | Assist. Controller| kwilliamson at rtkl.com
>
>RTKL Associates Inc. | 901 South Bond Street | Baltimore, Maryland
>21231-3305
>
>410-537-6098 direct | 410-276-2136 fax | www.rtkl.com
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gary Kjos
>Sent: Thursday, November 09, 2006 9:58 AM
>To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
>Subject: Re: [AccessD] test
>
>Hi Keith. How's the new job?  GK
>
>On 11/9/06, Keith Williamson <Kwilliamson at rtkl.com> wrote:
> > Test!!  Just testing from my new work.  Haven't seen any posting since
> > early yesterday.
> >
> >
> >
> > Keith E. Williamson | Assist. Controller| kwilliamson at rtkl.com
> >
> > RTKL Associates Inc. | 901 South Bond Street | Baltimore, Maryland
> > 21231-3305
> >
> > 410-537-6098 direct | 410-276-2136 fax | www.rtkl.com
> >
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> >
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>
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From cclenright at yahoo.com  Thu Nov  9 16:11:43 2006
From: cclenright at yahoo.com (Chris Enright)
Date: Thu, 9 Nov 2006 14:11:43 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [AccessD] OT: Weird email line
Message-ID: <20061109221143.88825.qmail@web34308.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

v\:* {behavior:url (#default#vml);}v\:* {	BEHAVIOR: url (#default#vml)} Could someone please explain this strange line?
 
On the few occasions I send an email to AccessD the copy of my message that comes back to me always begins with the line
 
V\:* {behavior:URL (#default#vml);}v\:* { BEHAVIOR: URL (#default#vml)}
 
It never happens any other time. Only with my messages and this list
 
My incoming mail goes to my yahoo address and is then downloaded into Incredimail using  YPOPs.
 
What is generating that line?
 
 
Chris
 
 

 
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From robert at servicexp.com  Thu Nov  9 17:17:39 2006
From: robert at servicexp.com (Robert)
Date: Thu, 9 Nov 2006 18:17:39 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Xtreme CalendarPro Anyone???
In-Reply-To: <20061109221143.88825.qmail@web34308.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <000c01c70455$4b84e3c0$dcc05005@roberts>

 Hello All,
 I need to create a scheduling calendar, and need multi-resource view
capacities. I'm thinking about using Xtreme CalendarPro ActiveX control?

 Has anyone used this control before? Any better solutions out there?


Thanks
Robert



From dwaters at usinternet.com  Thu Nov  9 17:30:17 2006
From: dwaters at usinternet.com (Dan Waters)
Date: Thu, 9 Nov 2006 17:30:17 -0600
Subject: [AccessD] Xtreme CalendarPro Anyone???
In-Reply-To: <23300175.1163114558183.JavaMail.root@sniper41>
Message-ID: <003901c70457$052a90d0$0200a8c0@danwaters>

Why not use a Project Management application?  Like MS Project (but
hopefully cheaper?).  These are made specifically for scheduling and
managing resources.

Dan Waters
 
-----Original Message-----
Subject: [AccessD] Xtreme CalendarPro Anyone???

 Hello All,
 I need to create a scheduling calendar, and need multi-resource view
capacities. I'm thinking about using Xtreme CalendarPro ActiveX control?

 Has anyone used this control before? Any better solutions out there?


Thanks
Robert



From michael at ddisolutions.com.au  Thu Nov  9 18:43:00 2006
From: michael at ddisolutions.com.au (Michael Maddison)
Date: Fri, 10 Nov 2006 11:43:00 +1100
Subject: [AccessD] Xtreme CalendarPro Anyone???
Message-ID: <59A61174B1F5B54B97FD4ADDE71E7D0116AC99@ddi-01.DDI.local>

Don't know about better but I think Janus do something like that.
www.janusys.com

Their grid rules...


cheers


Michael M


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Robert
Sent: Friday, 10 November 2006 10:18 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] Xtreme CalendarPro Anyone???

 Hello All,
 I need to create a scheduling calendar, and need multi-resource view
capacities. I'm thinking about using Xtreme CalendarPro ActiveX control?

 Has anyone used this control before? Any better solutions out there?


Thanks
Robert

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From bheid at appdevgrp.com  Fri Nov 10 06:09:17 2006
From: bheid at appdevgrp.com (Bobby Heid)
Date: Fri, 10 Nov 2006 07:09:17 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] OT: Weird email line
In-Reply-To: <916187228923D311A6FE00A0CC3FAA30E6F4D7@ADGSERVER>
Message-ID: <916187228923D311A6FE00A0CC3FAA30D35A8A@ADGSERVER>

I've never seen anything like this in my emails from AccessD.  Must be
something on your side.  My ISP does insert [Spam Suspect] many times into
the subject header.

Bobby

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Chris Enright
Sent: Thursday, November 09, 2006 5:12 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: [AccessD] OT: Weird email line


v\:* {behavior:url (#default#vml);}v\:* {	BEHAVIOR: url
(#default#vml)} Could someone please explain this strange line?
 
On the few occasions I send an email to AccessD the copy of my message that
comes back to me always begins with the line
 
V\:* {behavior:URL (#default#vml);}v\:* { BEHAVIOR: URL (#default#vml)}
 
It never happens any other time. Only with my messages and this list
 
My incoming mail goes to my yahoo address and is then downloaded into
Incredimail using  YPOPs.
 
What is generating that line?
 
 
Chris



From carbonnb at gmail.com  Fri Nov 10 06:35:00 2006
From: carbonnb at gmail.com (Bryan Carbonnell)
Date: Fri, 10 Nov 2006 07:35:00 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] OT: Weird email line
In-Reply-To: <20061109221143.88825.qmail@web34308.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <20061109221143.88825.qmail@web34308.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <e04a6c920611100435g2f9bc158s68353529c2432336@mail.gmail.com>

On 11/9/06, Chris Enright <cclenright at yahoo.com> wrote:
> v\:* {behavior:url (#default#vml);}v\:* {       BEHAVIOR: url (#default#vml)} Could someone please explain this strange line?
>
> On the few occasions I send an email to AccessD the copy of my message that comes back to me always begins with the line
>
> V\:* {behavior:URL (#default#vml);}v\:* { BEHAVIOR: URL (#default#vml)}
>
> It never happens any other time. Only with my messages and this list
>
> My incoming mail goes to my yahoo address and is then downloaded into Incredimail using  YPOPs.
>
> What is generating that line?

It's being generated by the HTML mail that you are creating.

The list software will strip the HTML part, but that line appears to
fall outside of the HTML part of the e-mail.

To get rid of the line, create and send e-mail in plain text only.

Your friendly neighbourhood Listmaster,


-- 
Bryan Carbonnell - carbonnb at gmail.com
Life's journey is not to arrive at the grave safely in a well
preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, totally worn out,
shouting "What a great ride!"


From mikedorism at verizon.net  Fri Nov 10 09:06:50 2006
From: mikedorism at verizon.net (Doris Manning)
Date: Fri, 10 Nov 2006 10:06:50 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Xtreme CalendarPro Anyone???
In-Reply-To: <59A61174B1F5B54B97FD4ADDE71E7D0116AC99@ddi-01.DDI.local>
Message-ID: <000301c704d9$da0678a0$2f01a8c0@Kermit>

Yes it does.  I love the whole suite of Janus UI controls and am super happy
that they have now put out web versions.

Doris Manning

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Michael Maddison
Sent: Thursday, November 09, 2006 7:43 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Xtreme CalendarPro Anyone???

Don't know about better but I think Janus do something like that.
www.janusys.com

Their grid rules...


cheers


Michael M




From robert at servicexp.com  Fri Nov 10 09:24:58 2006
From: robert at servicexp.com (robert)
Date: Fri, 10 Nov 2006 10:24:58 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Xtreme CalendarPro Anyone???
In-Reply-To: <000301c704d9$da0678a0$2f01a8c0@Kermit>
Message-ID: <!~!UENERkVCMDkAAQACAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAABgAAAAAAAAANgyuA0h3CUiC3/waruM+ZsKAAAAQAAAAfNBt0xKRuESRvpLnzUZG5AEAAAAA@servicexp.com>


Am I missing something, I don't see an ActiveX version of the schedule
calendar on their site??

Thanks
Robert

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Doris Manning
Sent: Friday, November 10, 2006 10:07 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Xtreme CalendarPro Anyone???

Yes it does.  I love the whole suite of Janus UI controls and am super happy
that they have now put out web versions.

Doris Manning

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Michael Maddison
Sent: Thursday, November 09, 2006 7:43 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Xtreme CalendarPro Anyone???

Don't know about better but I think Janus do something like that.
www.janusys.com

Their grid rules...


cheers


Michael M


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From mikedorism at verizon.net  Fri Nov 10 10:03:43 2006
From: mikedorism at verizon.net (Doris Manning)
Date: Fri, 10 Nov 2006 11:03:43 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Xtreme CalendarPro Anyone???
In-Reply-To: <!~!UENERkVCMDkAAQACAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAABgAAAAAAAAANgyuA0h3CUiC3/waruM+ZsKAAAAQAAAAfNBt0xKRuESRvpLnzUZG5AEAAAAA@servicexp.com>
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Sorry.  Janus used to sell a version 2.0 of their UI controls that was
useable in Visual Studio 2003 as well as Access 2000 and up.  It looks like
they have discontinued that in favor of the controls that only work in
Visual Studio 2005.

Doris Manning

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of robert
Sent: Friday, November 10, 2006 10:25 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Xtreme CalendarPro Anyone???


Am I missing something, I don't see an ActiveX version of the schedule
calendar on their site??

Thanks
Robert




From john at winhaven.net  Fri Nov 10 10:51:12 2006
From: john at winhaven.net (John Bartow)
Date: Fri, 10 Nov 2006 10:51:12 -0600
Subject: [AccessD] Xerox Freeflow
Message-ID: <200611101651.kAAGpHq02596@databaseadvisors.com>

Anyone have experience working with or through the installation of the Xerox
Freeflow system?


From Jim.Hale at FleetPride.com  Fri Nov 10 13:45:17 2006
From: Jim.Hale at FleetPride.com (Hale, Jim)
Date: Fri, 10 Nov 2006 13:45:17 -0600
Subject: [AccessD] OT: Where is everybody? Friday humor to wake you up
Message-ID: <6A6AA9DF57E4F046BDA1E273BDDB67727DE0F0@corp-es01.fleetpride.com>

It's too quiet for a Friday!

WINTER CLASSES FOR MEN AT: THE LEARNING CENTER FOR ADULTS  REGISTRATION MUST
BE COMPLETED BY Saturday, December 12, 2006 NOTE: DUE TO THE COMPLEXITY AND
DIFFICULTY LEVEL OF THEIR CONTENTS, CLASS SIZES WILL BE LIMITED TO 8
PARTICIPANTS MAXIMUM.  
 
Class 1 
How To Fill Up The Ice Cube Trays --- Step by Step, with Slide Presentation.
Meets 4 weeks, Monday and Wednesday for 2 hours beginning at 7:00 PM. 

Class 2 
The Toilet Paper Roll --- Does It Change Itself? Round Table Discussion.
Meets 2 weeks, Saturday 12:00 for 2 hours.  

Class 3 
Is It Possible To Urinate Using The Technique Of Lifting The Seat and
Avoiding The Floor, Walls and Nearby Bathtub? --- Group Practice. Meets 4
weeks, Saturday 10:00 PM for 2 hours.  

Class 4 
Fundamental Differences Between The Laundry Hamper and The Floor ---
Pictures and Explanatory Graphics. Meets Saturdays at 2:00 PM for 3 weeks.  

Class 5 
After Dinner Dishes --- Can They Levitate and Fly Into The Kitchen Sink?
Examples on Video. Meets 4 weeks, Tuesday and Thursday for 2 hours beginning
at 7:00 PM  

Class 6 
Loss Of Identity --- Losing The Remote To Your Significant Other. Help Line
Support and Support Groups. Meets 4 Weeks, Friday and Sunday 7:00 PM  

Class 7 
Learning How To Find Things --- Starting With Looking In The Right Places
And Not Turning The House Upside Down While Screaming. Open Forum . Monday
at 8:00 PM, 2 hours.  

Class 8 
Health Watch --- Bringing Her Flowers Is Not Harmful To Your Health.
Graphics and Audio Tapes. Three nights; Monday, Wednesday, Friday at 7:00 PM
for 2 hours.  

Class 9 
Real Men Ask For Directions When Lost --- Real Life Testimonials. Tuesdays
at 6:00 PM Location to be determined.  

Class 10 
Is It Genetically Impossible To Sit Quietly While She Parallel Parks?
Driving Simulations. 4 weeks, Saturday's noon, 2 hours.  

Class 11 
Learning to Live --- Basic Differences Between Mother and Wife. Online
Classes and role-playing . Tuesdays at 7:00 PM, location to be determined  

Class 12 
How to be the Ideal Shopping Companion Relaxation Exercises, Meditation and
Breathing Techniques. Meets 4 weeks, Tuesday and Thursday for 2 hours
beginning at 7:00 PM.  

Class 13 
How to Fight Cerebral Atrophy --- Remembering Birthdays, Anniversaries and
Other Important Dates and Calling When You're Going To Be Late. Cerebral
Shock Therapy Sessions and Full Lobotomies Offered. Three nights; Monday,
Wednesday, Friday at 7:00 PM for 2 hours. 

Class 14 
The Stove/Oven --- What It Is and How It Is Used. Live Demonstration.
Tuesdays at 6:00 PM, location to be determined.  Upon completion of any of
the above courses, diplomas will be issued to the survivors.    


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From mfisch4 at capex.com.ar  Fri Nov 10 14:15:39 2006
From: mfisch4 at capex.com.ar (MF)
Date: Fri, 10 Nov 2006 17:15:39 -0300
Subject: [AccessD] OT: Friday humor
In-Reply-To: <6A6AA9DF57E4F046BDA1E273BDDB67727DE0F0@corp-es01.fleetprid e.com>
References: <6A6AA9DF57E4F046BDA1E273BDDB67727DE0F0@corp-es01.fleetpride.com>
Message-ID: <6.2.3.4.0.20061110171510.03623f30@bsas-mail>


New Dictionary Terms

Blamestorming: Sitting around in a group discussing why a deadline 
was missed or a project failed, and who was responsible.

Cube Farm: An office filled with cubicles.

Prairie Dogging: When someone yells or drops something loudly in a 
cube farm, and people's heads pop up over the walls to see what's going on.

Ego Surfing: Scanning the Net, databases, print media and so on, 
looking for references to one's own name.

Elvis Year: The peak year of something's or someone's popularity. 
"Barney the Dinosaur's Elvis year was 1993."

404: Someone who's clueless. "Don't bother asking him; he's 404." 
 From the WWW error message "404 Not Found", meaning the requested 
document couldn't be located.

Idea Hamsters: People who always seem to have their idea generators running.

Keyboard Plaque: The disgusting buildup of dirt and crud found on 
computer keyboards.

Mouse Potato: The on-line, wired generation's answer to the couch potato.

Oh-no-second: That minuscule fraction of time in which you realize 
that you've just made a big mistake.

Perot: To quit unexpectedly, as in "My cellular phone just perot'ed."

SITCOM: What yuppies turn into when they have children and one of 
them stops working to stay home with the kids. Stands for Single 
Income, Two Children, Oppressive Mortgage.

Squirt the Bird: To transmit a signal to a satellite.

Starter Marriage: A short-lived first marriage that ends in divorce 
with no kids, no property and no regrets.

Stress Puppy: A person who seems to thrive on being stressed out and whiny.

Body Nazis: Hard-core exercise and weight-lifting fanatics who look 
down on anyone who doesn't work out obsessively.

Swiped Out: An ATM or credit card that has been rendered useless 
because the magnetic strip is worn away from extensive use.

Tourists: People who take training classes just to get a vacation 
from their jobs. "We had three serious students in the class; the 
rest were just tourists."

Uninstalled: Euphemism for being fired.
------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Things You Wish You Could Say At Work

1. Ahhh, I see the fuck-up fairy has visited us again.

2. I don't know what your problem is, but I'll bet it's hard to pronounce.

3. How about never? Is never good for you?

4. I see you've set aside this special time to humiliate yourself in public.

5. I'm really easy to get along with once you people learn to worship me.

6. I'll try being nicer if you'll try being smarter.

7. I'm out of my mind, but feel free to leave a message.

8. I don't work here. I'm a consultant.

9. It sounds like English, but I can't understand a word you're saying.

10. I can see your point, but I still think you're full of shit.

11. I like you. You remind me of when I was young and stupid.

12. You are validating my inherent mistrust of strangers.

13. I have plenty of talent and vision. I just don't give a damn.

14. I'm already visualizing the duct tape over your mouth.

15. I will always cherish the initial misconceptions I had about you.

16. Thank you. We're all refreshed and challenged by your unique point of view.

17. The fact that no one understands you doesn't mean you're an artist.

18. Any connection between your reality and mine is purely coincidental.

19. What am I? Flypaper for freaks!?

20. I'm not being rude. You're just insignificant.

21. It's a thankless job, but I've got a lot of Karma to burn off.

22. Yes, I am an agent of Satan, but my duties are largely ceremonial.

23. You sound reasonable ... Time to up the medication.

24. Who me? I just wander from room to room.
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Cubans

St. Peter came to the Lord and said, "I have to talk to  you."

We have some Cubans up here who are causing problems.
My  flute is missing, mojo sauce is all over the place,
they are making  guayaberas from their robes,
they have domino tables in the cafeteria,  and they're
wearing baseball caps instead of halos.
They refuse to  stop making Cuban Coffee on the heaven's stairs and some
of them are walking around with just one wing."

The Lord said, "Cubans are  Cubans, Peter. Heaven is home to all my
children. If you want to know about real problems, ask the Devil."

Peter calls - the Devil  answered the phone "Hello? Damn, hold on a
minute."

The Devil returned  to the phone, "O.K., I'm back. What can I do for
you?"

Peter  replied, "I just want to know what kind of problems you're having
down  there." The Devil again said Hold on, Hold On....

The Devil said  "I'm back. Now what was the question?"
Peter said "What kind of problems  are you having down there?"

The Devil said "Man, I don't believe  this...Hold on."
This time the Devil was gone 15 minutes. The Devil  returned and said,

"I'm sorry Peter, I can't talk right now. Those damn  Cubans have put out
the fire and are trying to install air  conditioning."
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Here goes Little Tony AGAIN!!!!!

A teacher asks her class, "If there are 5 birds sitting on a fence and you
shoot one of them, how many will be left?" She calls on little TONY.

He replies, "None, they will all fly away with the first gunshot."

The teacher replies, "The correct answer is 4, but I like your thinking."

Then little TONY says, "I have a question for YOU.

There are 3 women sitting on a bench having ice cream:

One is delicately licking the sides of the triple scoop of ice cream . The
second is gobbling down the top and sucking the cone. The third is biting
off
the top of the ice cream. Which one is married?"

The teacher, blushing a great deal, replied, "Well, I suppose the one
that's
gobbled down the top and sucked the cone."

To which Little TONY replied, "The correct answer is 'the one with the
wedding ring on," but I like your thinking."
------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
LITTLE TONY ON MATH (Part 2)

Little TONY retur ns from school and says he got an F in arithmetic.

"Why?" asks the father?

"The teacher asked 'How much is 2x3,'" I said "6", replies TONY.

"But that's right!" says his dad.

"Yeah, but then she asked me "How much is 3x2?'"

"What's the f...... difference?" asks the father.

"That's what I said!"
------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

LITTLE TONY ON ENGLISH

Little TONY goes to school, and the teacher says, "Today we are going to
learn multi-syllable words, class. Does anybody have an example of a
multi-syllable word?"

TONY says "Mas-tur-bate."

Miss Rogers smiles and says, "Wow, little TONY, that's a mouthful."

Little TONY says, "No, Miss Rogers, you're thinking of a blowjob."
------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
LITTLE TONY ON GRAMMAR

Little TONY was sitting in class one day.

All of a sudden, he needed to go to the bathroom . He yelled out, "Miss
Jones, I need to take a piss!!"

The teacher replied, 'Now, TONY, that is NOT the proper word to use in this
situation. The correct word you want to use is 'urinate.' Please use the
word
'ur-i-nate' in a sentence correctly, and I will allow you to go."

Little TONY, thinks for a bit, and then says, "You're an eight, but if you
had bigger boobs, you'd be a TEN!"
------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
LITTLE TONY ON GRAMMAR (Part 2)

One day, during lessons on proper grammar, the teacher asked for a show of
hands from those who could use the word "beautiful" in the same sentence
twice.



First, she called on little Suzie, who responded with, "My father bought my
mother a beautiful dress and she looked beautiful in it."



"Very good, Suzie," replied the teacher. She then called on little
Michael.



"My mommy planned a beautiful banquet and it turned out be autifully."



She said, "Excellent, Michael!" Then the teacher reluctantly called on
little TONY.



"Last night at the dinner table, my sister told my father that she was
pregnant, and he said 'Beautiful, just f...... beautiful!'"


------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------




LITTLE TONY ON GETTING OLDER






Little TONY was sitting on a park bench munching on one candy bar after
another.

After the 6th one a man on the bench across from him said, "Son, you know
eating all that candy isn't good for you. It will give you acne, rot your
teeth, and make you fat."



Little TONY replied, "My grandfather lived to be 107 years old."



The man asked, "Did your grandfather eat 6 candy bars at a time?"

Little TONY answered, "No, he minded his own f....... business.




------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------





From ssharkins at setel.com  Fri Nov 10 17:22:16 2006
From: ssharkins at setel.com (Susan Harkins)
Date: Fri, 10 Nov 2006 18:22:16 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] OT: Where is everybody? Friday humor to wake you up
In-Reply-To: <6A6AA9DF57E4F046BDA1E273BDDB67727DE0F0@corp-es01.fleetpride.com>
Message-ID: <001501c7051f$1033e530$e6b82ad1@SUSANONE>

 
Is It Possible To Urinate Using The Technique Of Lifting The Seat and
Avoiding The Floor, Walls and Nearby Bathtub? --- Group Practice. Meets 4
weeks, Saturday 10:00 PM for 2 hours.  

========I really don't suggest this -- how else are they gonna mark their
territory? 

Susan H. 



From ssharkins at setel.com  Fri Nov 10 17:22:16 2006
From: ssharkins at setel.com (Susan Harkins)
Date: Fri, 10 Nov 2006 18:22:16 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] OT: Friday humor
In-Reply-To: <6.2.3.4.0.20061110171510.03623f30@bsas-mail>
Message-ID: <001601c7051f$10e92b70$e6b82ad1@SUSANONE>

 

Swiped Out: An ATM or credit card that has been rendered useless because the
magnetic strip is worn away from extensive use.

=======Speaking of... I have trouble using my debit card at one Wal-mart
store -- just one Wal-mart and no place else, not even other Wal-marts.
What's up with that?

Susan H. 



From DWUTKA at marlow.com  Fri Nov 10 17:29:07 2006
From: DWUTKA at marlow.com (DWUTKA at marlow.com)
Date: Fri, 10 Nov 2006 17:29:07 -0600
Subject: [AccessD] OT: Friday humor
Message-ID: <17724746D360394AA3BFE5B8D40A9C1B0139B697@MARLOW_MAIN2.marlow.com>

Bad connection to the authorizing agent.  Ask the management if other people
have problems with their cards.

Drew

-----Original Message-----
From: Susan Harkins [mailto:ssharkins at setel.com] 
Sent: Friday, November 10, 2006 5:22 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: Re: [AccessD] OT: Friday humor

 

Swiped Out: An ATM or credit card that has been rendered useless because the
magnetic strip is worn away from extensive use.

=======Speaking of... I have trouble using my debit card at one Wal-mart
store -- just one Wal-mart and no place else, not even other Wal-marts.
What's up with that?

Susan H. 

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From DWUTKA at marlow.com  Fri Nov 10 17:29:34 2006
From: DWUTKA at marlow.com (DWUTKA at marlow.com)
Date: Fri, 10 Nov 2006 17:29:34 -0600
Subject: [AccessD] OT: Where is everybody? Friday humor to wake you up
Message-ID: <17724746D360394AA3BFE5B8D40A9C1B0139B698@MARLOW_MAIN2.marlow.com>

LOL.  There are ways!

Drew

-----Original Message-----
From: Susan Harkins [mailto:ssharkins at setel.com] 
Sent: Friday, November 10, 2006 5:22 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: Re: [AccessD] OT: Where is everybody? Friday humor to wake you up

 
Is It Possible To Urinate Using The Technique Of Lifting The Seat and
Avoiding The Floor, Walls and Nearby Bathtub? --- Group Practice. Meets 4
weeks, Saturday 10:00 PM for 2 hours.  

========I really don't suggest this -- how else are they gonna mark their
territory? 

Susan H. 

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From ssharkins at setel.com  Fri Nov 10 17:42:06 2006
From: ssharkins at setel.com (Susan Harkins)
Date: Fri, 10 Nov 2006 18:42:06 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] OT: Friday humor
In-Reply-To: <17724746D360394AA3BFE5B8D40A9C1B0139B697@MARLOW_MAIN2.marlow.com>
Message-ID: <001801c70521$d5a812d0$e6b82ad1@SUSANONE>

Bill's card always works. After they deny mine, he comes behind me and
swipes his and it goes through every time. 

Susan H. 

Bad connection to the authorizing agent.  Ask the management if other people
have problems with their cards.




From cfoust at infostatsystems.com  Fri Nov 10 17:48:15 2006
From: cfoust at infostatsystems.com (Charlotte Foust)
Date: Fri, 10 Nov 2006 15:48:15 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] OT: Friday humor
In-Reply-To: <001601c7051f$10e92b70$e6b82ad1@SUSANONE>
Message-ID: <F55048AF7E974F429BB24597D7355EEA178396@INFOSERVER04.infostat.local>

In my case, it's always meant the card was about to give up the ghost
and I had found the one reader that realized it early.  Get a
replacement BEFORE it stops working everywhere.

Charlotte 

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Susan Harkins
Sent: Friday, November 10, 2006 3:22 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: Re: [AccessD] OT: Friday humor

 

Swiped Out: An ATM or credit card that has been rendered useless because
the magnetic strip is worn away from extensive use.

=======Speaking of... I have trouble using my debit card at one Wal-mart
store -- just one Wal-mart and no place else, not even other Wal-marts.
What's up with that?

Susan H. 

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From wdhindman at dejpolsystems.com  Fri Nov 10 18:02:41 2006
From: wdhindman at dejpolsystems.com (William Hindman)
Date: Fri, 10 Nov 2006 19:02:41 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] OT: Friday humor
References: <001601c7051f$10e92b70$e6b82ad1@SUSANONE>
Message-ID: <007301c70524$ca9878a0$3e3de844@50NM721>

...karma?

William Hindman
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Susan Harkins" <ssharkins at setel.com>
To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'" 
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Friday, November 10, 2006 6:22 PM
Subject: Re: [AccessD] OT: Friday humor


>
>
> Swiped Out: An ATM or credit card that has been rendered useless because 
> the
> magnetic strip is worn away from extensive use.
>
> =======Speaking of... I have trouble using my debit card at one Wal-mart
> store -- just one Wal-mart and no place else, not even other Wal-marts.
> What's up with that?
>
> Susan H.
>
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From wdhindman at dejpolsystems.com  Fri Nov 10 18:04:02 2006
From: wdhindman at dejpolsystems.com (William Hindman)
Date: Fri, 10 Nov 2006 19:04:02 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] OT: Where is everybody? Friday humor to wake you up
References: <17724746D360394AA3BFE5B8D40A9C1B0139B698@MARLOW_MAIN2.marlow.com>
Message-ID: <007401c70524$e5b51580$3e3de844@50NM721>

...a helping hand is beneficial :)

William Hindman

----- Original Message ----- 
From: <DWUTKA at marlow.com>
To: <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Friday, November 10, 2006 6:29 PM
Subject: Re: [AccessD] OT: Where is everybody? Friday humor to wake you up


> LOL.  There are ways!
>
> Drew
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Susan Harkins [mailto:ssharkins at setel.com]
> Sent: Friday, November 10, 2006 5:22 PM
> To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] OT: Where is everybody? Friday humor to wake you up
>
>
> Is It Possible To Urinate Using The Technique Of Lifting The Seat and
> Avoiding The Floor, Walls and Nearby Bathtub? --- Group Practice. Meets 4
> weeks, Saturday 10:00 PM for 2 hours.
>
> ========I really don't suggest this -- how else are they gonna mark their
> territory?
>
> Susan H.
>
> -- 
> AccessD mailing list
> AccessD at databaseadvisors.com
> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd
> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com
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> 





From wdhindman at dejpolsystems.com  Fri Nov 10 18:04:27 2006
From: wdhindman at dejpolsystems.com (William Hindman)
Date: Fri, 10 Nov 2006 19:04:27 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] OT: Friday humor
References: <001801c70521$d5a812d0$e6b82ad1@SUSANONE>
Message-ID: <007a01c70524$f4d21a40$3e3de844@50NM721>

...karma :)

William Hindman
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Susan Harkins" <ssharkins at setel.com>
To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'" 
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Friday, November 10, 2006 6:42 PM
Subject: Re: [AccessD] OT: Friday humor


> Bill's card always works. After they deny mine, he comes behind me and
> swipes his and it goes through every time.
>
> Susan H.
>
> Bad connection to the authorizing agent.  Ask the management if other 
> people
> have problems with their cards.
>
>
> -- 
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> 





From ssharkins at setel.com  Sat Nov 11 09:25:46 2006
From: ssharkins at setel.com (Susan Harkins)
Date: Sat, 11 Nov 2006 10:25:46 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] OT: Friday humor
In-Reply-To: <F55048AF7E974F429BB24597D7355EEA178396@INFOSERVER04.infostat.local>
Message-ID: <001c01c705a5$aa887200$e6b82ad1@SUSANONE>

Well, that's interesting. Thing is, the card is brand new. :( But, that
doesn't mean it isn't defective -- that could be true. 

Susan H. 

In my case, it's always meant the card was about to give up the ghost and I
had found the one reader that realized it early.  Get a replacement BEFORE
it stops working everywhere.



From lembit.dbamail at t-online.de  Sat Nov 11 12:22:43 2006
From: lembit.dbamail at t-online.de (Lembit Soobik)
Date: Sat, 11 Nov 2006 19:22:43 +0100
Subject: [AccessD] XP-mde on A2003?
References: <6A6AA9DF57E4F046BDA1E273BDDB67727DE0F0@corp-es01.fleetpride.com>
	<6.2.3.4.0.20061110171510.03623f30@bsas-mail>
Message-ID: <005301c705be$6155b340$1800a8c0@s1800>

Hi everyone,
I have been asked to write an Access db for a friend.
I have Access-XP (2002) on my machine
he has Access 2003

can he run an mde from me on his machine?

thank you 
Lembit



From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com  Sat Nov 11 13:47:17 2006
From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (JWColby)
Date: Sat, 11 Nov 2006 14:47:17 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] XP-mde on A2003?
In-Reply-To: <005301c705be$6155b340$1800a8c0@s1800>
Message-ID: <000801c705ca$3285a320$d60f390a@m6805>

Yep, AFAIK. 


John W. Colby
Colby Consulting
www.ColbyConsulting.com

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Lembit Soobik
Sent: Saturday, November 11, 2006 1:23 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: [AccessD] XP-mde on A2003?

Hi everyone,
I have been asked to write an Access db for a friend.
I have Access-XP (2002) on my machine
he has Access 2003

can he run an mde from me on his machine?

thank you
Lembit

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From bchacc at san.rr.com  Sat Nov 11 16:16:22 2006
From: bchacc at san.rr.com (Beach Access Software)
Date: Sat, 11 Nov 2006 14:16:22 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] XP-mde on A2003?
In-Reply-To: <000801c705ca$3285a320$d60f390a@m6805>
Message-ID: <001701c705df$0583ad30$6701a8c0@HAL9005>

But can you run a 2003 mde on an A2K2 machine or an A2K machine?

Rocky


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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
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Sent: Saturday, November 11, 2006 11:47 AM
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Subject: Re: [AccessD] XP-mde on A2003?

Yep, AFAIK. 


John W. Colby
Colby Consulting
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Sent: Saturday, November 11, 2006 1:23 PM
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Subject: [AccessD] XP-mde on A2003?

Hi everyone,
I have been asked to write an Access db for a friend.
I have Access-XP (2002) on my machine
he has Access 2003

can he run an mde from me on his machine?

thank you
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From wdhindman at dejpolsystems.com  Sat Nov 11 16:29:37 2006
From: wdhindman at dejpolsystems.com (William Hindman)
Date: Sat, 11 Nov 2006 17:29:37 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] XP-mde on A2003?
References: <001701c705df$0583ad30$6701a8c0@HAL9005>
Message-ID: <000d01c705e0$dfac6960$3e3de844@50NM721>

...yes, as long as you've saved it in A2K format.

William Hindman

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To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'" 
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Saturday, November 11, 2006 5:16 PM
Subject: Re: [AccessD] XP-mde on A2003?


> But can you run a 2003 mde on an A2K2 machine or an A2K machine?
>
> Rocky
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of JWColby
> Sent: Saturday, November 11, 2006 11:47 AM
> To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] XP-mde on A2003?
>
> Yep, AFAIK.
>
>
> John W. Colby
> Colby Consulting
> www.ColbyConsulting.com
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Lembit Soobik
> Sent: Saturday, November 11, 2006 1:23 PM
> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> Subject: [AccessD] XP-mde on A2003?
>
> Hi everyone,
> I have been asked to write an Access db for a friend.
> I have Access-XP (2002) on my machine
> he has Access 2003
>
> can he run an mde from me on his machine?
>
> thank you
> Lembit
>
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From john at winhaven.net  Sat Nov 11 19:13:25 2006
From: john at winhaven.net (John Bartow)
Date: Sat, 11 Nov 2006 19:13:25 -0600
Subject: [AccessD] XP-mde on A2003?
In-Reply-To: <000d01c705e0$dfac6960$3e3de844@50NM721>
Message-ID: <200611120113.kAC1DQq16748@databaseadvisors.com>

A2k3 can't make an A2k mde. You have to have it in A2k3 format to make an
mde.

I tried opening an A2k3 mde with A2k on a machine with A2k and A2k3
installed and it does not work - unrecognized format.

John B.

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[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of William Hindman
Sent: Saturday, November 11, 2006 4:30 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] XP-mde on A2003?

...yes, as long as you've saved it in A2K format.

William Hindman

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From: "Beach Access Software" <bchacc at san.rr.com>
To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'" 
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Saturday, November 11, 2006 5:16 PM
Subject: Re: [AccessD] XP-mde on A2003?


> But can you run a 2003 mde on an A2K2 machine or an A2K machine?
>
> Rocky
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of JWColby
> Sent: Saturday, November 11, 2006 11:47 AM
> To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] XP-mde on A2003?
>
> Yep, AFAIK.
>
>
> John W. Colby
> Colby Consulting
> www.ColbyConsulting.com
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Lembit Soobik
> Sent: Saturday, November 11, 2006 1:23 PM
> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> Subject: [AccessD] XP-mde on A2003?
>
> Hi everyone,
> I have been asked to write an Access db for a friend.
> I have Access-XP (2002) on my machine
> he has Access 2003
>
> can he run an mde from me on his machine?
>
> thank you
> Lembit
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From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com  Sat Nov 11 20:21:08 2006
From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (JWColby)
Date: Sat, 11 Nov 2006 21:21:08 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] XP-mde on A2003?
In-Reply-To: <001701c705df$0583ad30$6701a8c0@HAL9005>
Message-ID: <001301c70601$37a877b0$d60f390a@m6805>

No, or rather it depends.  If you use an A2K container, and only use
constructs that are native to A2K then yes.  Maybe.  There is an update to
VBA after A2K that you will have to deal with.

John W. Colby
Colby Consulting
www.ColbyConsulting.com

-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Beach Access
Software
Sent: Saturday, November 11, 2006 5:16 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: Re: [AccessD] XP-mde on A2003?

But can you run a 2003 mde on an A2K2 machine or an A2K machine?

Rocky


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Sent: Saturday, November 11, 2006 11:47 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: Re: [AccessD] XP-mde on A2003?

Yep, AFAIK. 


John W. Colby
Colby Consulting
www.ColbyConsulting.com

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Sent: Saturday, November 11, 2006 1:23 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: [AccessD] XP-mde on A2003?

Hi everyone,
I have been asked to write an Access db for a friend.
I have Access-XP (2002) on my machine
he has Access 2003

can he run an mde from me on his machine?

thank you
Lembit

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From wdhindman at dejpolsystems.com  Sat Nov 11 20:45:16 2006
From: wdhindman at dejpolsystems.com (William Hindman)
Date: Sat, 11 Nov 2006 21:45:16 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] XP-mde on A2003?
References: <200611120113.kAC1DQq16748@databaseadvisors.com>
Message-ID: <006d01c70604$9670f710$3e3de844@50NM721>

John

...have you tried using late binding and ensuring the paths are the same?

William Hindman

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "John Bartow" <john at winhaven.net>
To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'" 
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Saturday, November 11, 2006 8:13 PM
Subject: Re: [AccessD] XP-mde on A2003?


> A2k3 can't make an A2k mde. You have to have it in A2k3 format to make an
> mde.
>
> I tried opening an A2k3 mde with A2k on a machine with A2k and A2k3
> installed and it does not work - unrecognized format.
>
> John B.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of William Hindman
> Sent: Saturday, November 11, 2006 4:30 PM
> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] XP-mde on A2003?
>
> ...yes, as long as you've saved it in A2K format.
>
> William Hindman
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Beach Access Software" <bchacc at san.rr.com>
> To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'"
> <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
> Sent: Saturday, November 11, 2006 5:16 PM
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] XP-mde on A2003?
>
>
>> But can you run a 2003 mde on an A2K2 machine or an A2K machine?
>>
>> Rocky
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of JWColby
>> Sent: Saturday, November 11, 2006 11:47 AM
>> To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
>> Subject: Re: [AccessD] XP-mde on A2003?
>>
>> Yep, AFAIK.
>>
>>
>> John W. Colby
>> Colby Consulting
>> www.ColbyConsulting.com
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Lembit Soobik
>> Sent: Saturday, November 11, 2006 1:23 PM
>> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
>> Subject: [AccessD] XP-mde on A2003?
>>
>> Hi everyone,
>> I have been asked to write an Access db for a friend.
>> I have Access-XP (2002) on my machine
>> he has Access 2003
>>
>> can he run an mde from me on his machine?
>>
>> thank you
>> Lembit
>>
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From john at winhaven.net  Sun Nov 12 00:27:29 2006
From: john at winhaven.net (John Bartow)
Date: Sun, 12 Nov 2006 00:27:29 -0600
Subject: [AccessD] XP-mde on A2003?
In-Reply-To: <006d01c70604$9670f710$3e3de844@50NM721>
Message-ID: <200611120627.kAC6RRq12802@databaseadvisors.com>

William,
To test this again, I created a new db db1.mdb
	created (only) one form with a label that says "TEST" and no module
	made it the startup form
created an mde from db1.mdb - error "you cannot create a Microsoft Access
ADE or MDE from a database saved in Microsoft Access 2000 format"
converted db1.mdb to a2k3 - db2.mdb
created an mde from db2.mdb - db2.mde

opened db1.mdb in a2k3 - worked
opened db2.mdb with a2k3 - worked
opened db2.mde with a2k3 - worked

opened db1.mdb in a2k - worked
opened db2.mdb with a2k and get error "this database is in an unrecognized
format"
opened db2.mde with a2k and get error "this database is in an unrecognized
format"

I just reinstalled from scratch a couple of weeks ago so I'd be interested
to know if you can do this same thing successfully.

John B.

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Sent: Saturday, November 11, 2006 8:45 PM
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Subject: Re: [AccessD] XP-mde on A2003?

John

...have you tried using late binding and ensuring the paths are the same?

William Hindman



From lembit.dbamail at t-online.de  Sun Nov 12 04:36:57 2006
From: lembit.dbamail at t-online.de (Lembit Soobik)
Date: Sun, 12 Nov 2006 11:36:57 +0100
Subject: [AccessD] XP-mde on A2003?
References: <000801c705ca$3285a320$d60f390a@m6805>
Message-ID: <002901c70646$7ab07310$1800a8c0@s1800>

thanks, John

btw, did you get my uP mails? and do they help?

Lembit
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To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'" 
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Sent: Saturday, November 11, 2006 8:47 PM
Subject: Re: [AccessD] XP-mde on A2003?


> Yep, AFAIK.
>
>
> John W. Colby
> Colby Consulting
> www.ColbyConsulting.com
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Lembit Soobik
> Sent: Saturday, November 11, 2006 1:23 PM
> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> Subject: [AccessD] XP-mde on A2003?
>
> Hi everyone,
> I have been asked to write an Access db for a friend.
> I have Access-XP (2002) on my machine
> he has Access 2003
>
> can he run an mde from me on his machine?
>
> thank you
> Lembit
>
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From lembit.dbamail at t-online.de  Sun Nov 12 04:45:24 2006
From: lembit.dbamail at t-online.de (Lembit Soobik)
Date: Sun, 12 Nov 2006 11:45:24 +0100
Subject: [AccessD] XP-mde on A2003?
References: <001701c705df$0583ad30$6701a8c0@HAL9005>
	<000d01c705e0$dfac6960$3e3de844@50NM721>
Message-ID: <003401c70647$a914b620$1800a8c0@s1800>

hmm, William, is this an answer to Rocky's question or to mine?
you mean I have to build the database in A2000 format and then convert it to 
mde, and then it will run under A2003?

thanks
Lembit

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From: "William Hindman" <wdhindman at dejpolsystems.com>
To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving" 
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Saturday, November 11, 2006 11:29 PM
Subject: Re: [AccessD] XP-mde on A2003?


> ...yes, as long as you've saved it in A2K format.
>
> William Hindman
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Beach Access Software" <bchacc at san.rr.com>
> To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'"
> <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
> Sent: Saturday, November 11, 2006 5:16 PM
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] XP-mde on A2003?
>
>
>> But can you run a 2003 mde on an A2K2 machine or an A2K machine?
>>
>> Rocky
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of JWColby
>> Sent: Saturday, November 11, 2006 11:47 AM
>> To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
>> Subject: Re: [AccessD] XP-mde on A2003?
>>
>> Yep, AFAIK.
>>
>>
>> John W. Colby
>> Colby Consulting
>> www.ColbyConsulting.com
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Lembit Soobik
>> Sent: Saturday, November 11, 2006 1:23 PM
>> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
>> Subject: [AccessD] XP-mde on A2003?
>>
>> Hi everyone,
>> I have been asked to write an Access db for a friend.
>> I have Access-XP (2002) on my machine
>> he has Access 2003
>>
>> can he run an mde from me on his machine?
>>
>> thank you
>> Lembit
>>
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From prodevmg at yahoo.com  Sun Nov 12 06:37:48 2006
From: prodevmg at yahoo.com (Lonnie Johnson)
Date: Sun, 12 Nov 2006 04:37:48 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [AccessD] Moving items in a listbox with the mouse
Message-ID: <20061112123748.7261.qmail@web33101.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Does anyone know of any method, code or control that I could use to move order of the items within a list box with a mouse.

So if I have three things in a list box 

CAT
DOG
BIRD

I would like to grab DOG with my mouse and move it up above CAT.

Is that possible?

Thanks.
 








May God bless you beyond your imagination!
Lonnie Johnson
ProDev, Professional Development of MS Access Databases
Visit me at ==> http://www.prodev.us



From wdhindman at dejpolsystems.com  Sun Nov 12 07:44:52 2006
From: wdhindman at dejpolsystems.com (William Hindman)
Date: Sun, 12 Nov 2006 08:44:52 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] XP-mde on A2003?
References: <001701c705df$0583ad30$6701a8c0@HAL9005><000d01c705e0$dfac6960$3e3de844@50NM721>
	<003401c70647$a914b620$1800a8c0@s1800>
Message-ID: <004201c70660$bb5315c0$3e3de844@50NM721>

Lembit

...A2K mdes should run fine in A2K3 as long as the paths are the same 
...afaik mdes hardcode the path to the executable and the default install 
puts A2K and A2K3 in different paths.

William Hindman

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To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving" 
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Sunday, November 12, 2006 5:45 AM
Subject: Re: [AccessD] XP-mde on A2003?


> hmm, William, is this an answer to Rocky's question or to mine?
> you mean I have to build the database in A2000 format and then convert it 
> to
> mde, and then it will run under A2003?
>
> thanks
> Lembit
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "William Hindman" <wdhindman at dejpolsystems.com>
> To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving"
> <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
> Sent: Saturday, November 11, 2006 11:29 PM
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] XP-mde on A2003?
>
>
>> ...yes, as long as you've saved it in A2K format.
>>
>> William Hindman
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Beach Access Software" <bchacc at san.rr.com>
>> To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'"
>> <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
>> Sent: Saturday, November 11, 2006 5:16 PM
>> Subject: Re: [AccessD] XP-mde on A2003?
>>
>>
>>> But can you run a 2003 mde on an A2K2 machine or an A2K machine?
>>>
>>> Rocky
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>>> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of JWColby
>>> Sent: Saturday, November 11, 2006 11:47 AM
>>> To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
>>> Subject: Re: [AccessD] XP-mde on A2003?
>>>
>>> Yep, AFAIK.
>>>
>>>
>>> John W. Colby
>>> Colby Consulting
>>> www.ColbyConsulting.com
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>>> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Lembit Soobik
>>> Sent: Saturday, November 11, 2006 1:23 PM
>>> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
>>> Subject: [AccessD] XP-mde on A2003?
>>>
>>> Hi everyone,
>>> I have been asked to write an Access db for a friend.
>>> I have Access-XP (2002) on my machine
>>> he has Access 2003
>>>
>>> can he run an mde from me on his machine?
>>>
>>> thank you
>>> Lembit
>>>
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From shamil at users.mns.ru  Sun Nov 12 07:48:07 2006
From: shamil at users.mns.ru (Shamil Salakhetdinov)
Date: Sun, 12 Nov 2006 16:48:07 +0300
Subject: [AccessD] IATA Airport codes to import into MS Access database
Message-ID: <000001c70661$2f8295b0$6401a8c0@nant>

Hi All,

Is there somewhere a file with IATA Airport codes ready to be imported into
MS Access database?

I mean Airport codes like these:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_airports_by_IATA_code:_L


Thank you.

--
Shamil
 



From wdhindman at dejpolsystems.com  Sun Nov 12 07:51:55 2006
From: wdhindman at dejpolsystems.com (William Hindman)
Date: Sun, 12 Nov 2006 08:51:55 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Moving items in a listbox with the mouse
References: <20061112123748.7261.qmail@web33101.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <004801c70661$b7fe9e20$3e3de844@50NM721>

...if you are working with a full Access install, then www.lebans.com has a 
list box with drag and drop capability.

William Hindman

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Lonnie Johnson" <prodevmg at yahoo.com>
To: "AccessD solving'" <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Sunday, November 12, 2006 7:37 AM
Subject: [AccessD] Moving items in a listbox with the mouse


> Does anyone know of any method, code or control that I could use to move 
> order of the items within a list box with a mouse.
>
> So if I have three things in a list box
>
> CAT
> DOG
> BIRD
>
> I would like to grab DOG with my mouse and move it up above CAT.
>
> Is that possible?
>
> Thanks.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> May God bless you beyond your imagination!
> Lonnie Johnson
> ProDev, Professional Development of MS Access Databases
> Visit me at ==> http://www.prodev.us
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From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com  Sun Nov 12 07:52:27 2006
From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (JWColby)
Date: Sun, 12 Nov 2006 08:52:27 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] XP-mde on A2003?
In-Reply-To: <004201c70660$bb5315c0$3e3de844@50NM721>
Message-ID: <000301c70661$cad5ebc0$d60f390a@m6805>

I think the MDE has to be MADE using A2K, and will then RUN under A2K3 


John W. Colby
Colby Consulting
www.ColbyConsulting.com

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of William Hindman
Sent: Sunday, November 12, 2006 8:45 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] XP-mde on A2003?

Lembit

...A2K mdes should run fine in A2K3 as long as the paths are the same
...afaik mdes hardcode the path to the executable and the default install
puts A2K and A2K3 in different paths.

William Hindman

----- Original Message -----
From: "Lembit Soobik" <lembit.dbamail at t-online.de>
To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving" 
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Sunday, November 12, 2006 5:45 AM
Subject: Re: [AccessD] XP-mde on A2003?


> hmm, William, is this an answer to Rocky's question or to mine?
> you mean I have to build the database in A2000 format and then convert it 
> to
> mde, and then it will run under A2003?
>
> thanks
> Lembit
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "William Hindman" <wdhindman at dejpolsystems.com>
> To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving"
> <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
> Sent: Saturday, November 11, 2006 11:29 PM
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] XP-mde on A2003?
>
>
>> ...yes, as long as you've saved it in A2K format.
>>
>> William Hindman
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Beach Access Software" <bchacc at san.rr.com>
>> To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'"
>> <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
>> Sent: Saturday, November 11, 2006 5:16 PM
>> Subject: Re: [AccessD] XP-mde on A2003?
>>
>>
>>> But can you run a 2003 mde on an A2K2 machine or an A2K machine?
>>>
>>> Rocky
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>>> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of JWColby
>>> Sent: Saturday, November 11, 2006 11:47 AM
>>> To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
>>> Subject: Re: [AccessD] XP-mde on A2003?
>>>
>>> Yep, AFAIK.
>>>
>>>
>>> John W. Colby
>>> Colby Consulting
>>> www.ColbyConsulting.com
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>>> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Lembit Soobik
>>> Sent: Saturday, November 11, 2006 1:23 PM
>>> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
>>> Subject: [AccessD] XP-mde on A2003?
>>>
>>> Hi everyone,
>>> I have been asked to write an Access db for a friend.
>>> I have Access-XP (2002) on my machine
>>> he has Access 2003
>>>
>>> can he run an mde from me on his machine?
>>>
>>> thank you
>>> Lembit
>>>
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From lembit.dbamail at t-online.de  Sun Nov 12 08:50:42 2006
From: lembit.dbamail at t-online.de (Lembit Soobik)
Date: Sun, 12 Nov 2006 15:50:42 +0100
Subject: [AccessD] XP-mde on A2003?
References: <001701c705df$0583ad30$6701a8c0@HAL9005><000d01c705e0$dfac6960$3e3de844@50NM721><003401c70647$a914b620$1800a8c0@s1800>
	<004201c70660$bb5315c0$3e3de844@50NM721>
Message-ID: <002001c70669$ed8b2380$1800a8c0@s1800>

thank you, William

Lembit

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "William Hindman" <wdhindman at dejpolsystems.com>
To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving" 
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Sunday, November 12, 2006 2:44 PM
Subject: Re: [AccessD] XP-mde on A2003?


> Lembit
>
> ...A2K mdes should run fine in A2K3 as long as the paths are the same
> ...afaik mdes hardcode the path to the executable and the default install
> puts A2K and A2K3 in different paths.
>
> William Hindman
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Lembit Soobik" <lembit.dbamail at t-online.de>
> To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving"
> <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
> Sent: Sunday, November 12, 2006 5:45 AM
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] XP-mde on A2003?
>
>
>> hmm, William, is this an answer to Rocky's question or to mine?
>> you mean I have to build the database in A2000 format and then convert it
>> to
>> mde, and then it will run under A2003?
>>
>> thanks
>> Lembit
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "William Hindman" <wdhindman at dejpolsystems.com>
>> To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving"
>> <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
>> Sent: Saturday, November 11, 2006 11:29 PM
>> Subject: Re: [AccessD] XP-mde on A2003?
>>
>>
>>> ...yes, as long as you've saved it in A2K format.
>>>
>>> William Hindman
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>> From: "Beach Access Software" <bchacc at san.rr.com>
>>> To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'"
>>> <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
>>> Sent: Saturday, November 11, 2006 5:16 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [AccessD] XP-mde on A2003?
>>>
>>>
>>>> But can you run a 2003 mde on an A2K2 machine or an A2K machine?
>>>>
>>>> Rocky
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>>>> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of JWColby
>>>> Sent: Saturday, November 11, 2006 11:47 AM
>>>> To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
>>>> Subject: Re: [AccessD] XP-mde on A2003?
>>>>
>>>> Yep, AFAIK.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> John W. Colby
>>>> Colby Consulting
>>>> www.ColbyConsulting.com
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>>>> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Lembit 
>>>> Soobik
>>>> Sent: Saturday, November 11, 2006 1:23 PM
>>>> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
>>>> Subject: [AccessD] XP-mde on A2003?
>>>>
>>>> Hi everyone,
>>>> I have been asked to write an Access db for a friend.
>>>> I have Access-XP (2002) on my machine
>>>> he has Access 2003
>>>>
>>>> can he run an mde from me on his machine?
>>>>
>>>> thank you
>>>> Lembit
>>>>
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From lembit.dbamail at t-online.de  Sun Nov 12 08:51:09 2006
From: lembit.dbamail at t-online.de (Lembit Soobik)
Date: Sun, 12 Nov 2006 15:51:09 +0100
Subject: [AccessD] XP-mde on A2003?
References: <000301c70661$cad5ebc0$d60f390a@m6805>
Message-ID: <002501c70669$fdaee9e0$1800a8c0@s1800>

thank you, John, will try it

Lembit

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "JWColby" <jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com>
To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'" 
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Sunday, November 12, 2006 2:52 PM
Subject: Re: [AccessD] XP-mde on A2003?


>I think the MDE has to be MADE using A2K, and will then RUN under A2K3
>
>
> John W. Colby
> Colby Consulting
> www.ColbyConsulting.com
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of William Hindman
> Sent: Sunday, November 12, 2006 8:45 AM
> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] XP-mde on A2003?
>
> Lembit
>
> ...A2K mdes should run fine in A2K3 as long as the paths are the same
> ...afaik mdes hardcode the path to the executable and the default install
> puts A2K and A2K3 in different paths.
>
> William Hindman
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Lembit Soobik" <lembit.dbamail at t-online.de>
> To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving"
> <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
> Sent: Sunday, November 12, 2006 5:45 AM
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] XP-mde on A2003?
>
>
>> hmm, William, is this an answer to Rocky's question or to mine?
>> you mean I have to build the database in A2000 format and then convert it
>> to
>> mde, and then it will run under A2003?
>>
>> thanks
>> Lembit
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "William Hindman" <wdhindman at dejpolsystems.com>
>> To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving"
>> <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
>> Sent: Saturday, November 11, 2006 11:29 PM
>> Subject: Re: [AccessD] XP-mde on A2003?
>>
>>
>>> ...yes, as long as you've saved it in A2K format.
>>>
>>> William Hindman
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>> From: "Beach Access Software" <bchacc at san.rr.com>
>>> To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'"
>>> <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
>>> Sent: Saturday, November 11, 2006 5:16 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [AccessD] XP-mde on A2003?
>>>
>>>
>>>> But can you run a 2003 mde on an A2K2 machine or an A2K machine?
>>>>
>>>> Rocky
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>>>> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of JWColby
>>>> Sent: Saturday, November 11, 2006 11:47 AM
>>>> To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
>>>> Subject: Re: [AccessD] XP-mde on A2003?
>>>>
>>>> Yep, AFAIK.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> John W. Colby
>>>> Colby Consulting
>>>> www.ColbyConsulting.com
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>>>> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Lembit 
>>>> Soobik
>>>> Sent: Saturday, November 11, 2006 1:23 PM
>>>> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
>>>> Subject: [AccessD] XP-mde on A2003?
>>>>
>>>> Hi everyone,
>>>> I have been asked to write an Access db for a friend.
>>>> I have Access-XP (2002) on my machine
>>>> he has Access 2003
>>>>
>>>> can he run an mde from me on his machine?
>>>>
>>>> thank you
>>>> Lembit
>>>>
>>>> --
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From artful at rogers.com  Sun Nov 12 09:48:37 2006
From: artful at rogers.com (artful at rogers.com)
Date: Sun, 12 Nov 2006 07:48:37 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [AccessD] IATA Airport codes to import into MS Access database
Message-ID: <20061112154838.25114.qmail@web88210.mail.re2.yahoo.com>

I grabbed all the data from an airport list (which was subdivided by initial character) and I'm sending you off-list the MDB. If anyone else wants the list, pvt me and I will send it to you as well.

Arthur

----- Original Message ----
From: Shamil Salakhetdinov <shamil at users.mns.ru>
To: Access-D <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Sunday, November 12, 2006 8:48:07 AM
Subject: [AccessD] IATA Airport codes to import into MS Access database

Hi All,

Is there somewhere a file with IATA Airport codes ready to be imported into
MS Access database?

I mean Airport codes like these:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_airports_by_IATA_code:_L


Thank you.

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From bchacc at san.rr.com  Sun Nov 12 10:06:17 2006
From: bchacc at san.rr.com (Beach Access Software)
Date: Sun, 12 Nov 2006 08:06:17 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] XP-mde on A2003?
In-Reply-To: <000d01c705e0$dfac6960$3e3de844@50NM721>
Message-ID: <001301c70674$7c960d10$6701a8c0@HAL9005>

But I don't think A2K3 will compile and mde from an A2K format mdb.

Rocky


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of William Hindman
Sent: Saturday, November 11, 2006 2:30 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] XP-mde on A2003?

...yes, as long as you've saved it in A2K format.

William Hindman

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Beach Access Software" <bchacc at san.rr.com>
To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'" 
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Saturday, November 11, 2006 5:16 PM
Subject: Re: [AccessD] XP-mde on A2003?


> But can you run a 2003 mde on an A2K2 machine or an A2K machine?
>
> Rocky
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of JWColby
> Sent: Saturday, November 11, 2006 11:47 AM
> To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] XP-mde on A2003?
>
> Yep, AFAIK.
>
>
> John W. Colby
> Colby Consulting
> www.ColbyConsulting.com
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Lembit Soobik
> Sent: Saturday, November 11, 2006 1:23 PM
> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> Subject: [AccessD] XP-mde on A2003?
>
> Hi everyone,
> I have been asked to write an Access db for a friend.
> I have Access-XP (2002) on my machine
> he has Access 2003
>
> can he run an mde from me on his machine?
>
> thank you
> Lembit
>
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From bchacc at san.rr.com  Sun Nov 12 10:11:45 2006
From: bchacc at san.rr.com (Beach Access Software)
Date: Sun, 12 Nov 2006 08:11:45 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] Moving items in a listbox with the mouse
In-Reply-To: <20061112123748.7261.qmail@web33101.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <001401c70675$403a95b0$6701a8c0@HAL9005>

I've done this but only with a couple of command buttons labeled 'Move Up'
and 'Move Down' outside the list box.  Worked pretty well, though with some
brute force code, IIRC.  It was a long time ago but I can try to dig it out
if you want to go in that direction.

Rocky


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Lonnie Johnson
Sent: Sunday, November 12, 2006 4:38 AM
To: AccessD solving'
Subject: [AccessD] Moving items in a listbox with the mouse

Does anyone know of any method, code or control that I could use to move
order of the items within a list box with a mouse.

So if I have three things in a list box 

CAT
DOG
BIRD

I would like to grab DOG with my mouse and move it up above CAT.

Is that possible?

Thanks.
 








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ProDev, Professional Development of MS Access Databases
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From wdhindman at dejpolsystems.com  Sun Nov 12 10:28:34 2006
From: wdhindman at dejpolsystems.com (William Hindman)
Date: Sun, 12 Nov 2006 11:28:34 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] IATA Airport codes to import into MS Access database
References: <20061112154838.25114.qmail@web88210.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <002901c70677$99b1f500$3e3de844@50NM721>

...why not post it on dba ...I've got an updated lat/long/post codes with US 
and many international that I'll put up there soon as well ...its a rpita to 
find high quality data lists that really provide what you need

William Hindman

----- Original Message ----- 
From: <artful at rogers.com>
To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving" 
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Sunday, November 12, 2006 10:48 AM
Subject: Re: [AccessD] IATA Airport codes to import into MS Access database


>I grabbed all the data from an airport list (which was subdivided by 
>initial character) and I'm sending you off-list the MDB. If anyone else 
>wants the list, pvt me and I will send it to you as well.
>
> Arthur
>
> ----- Original Message ----
> From: Shamil Salakhetdinov <shamil at users.mns.ru>
> To: Access-D <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
> Sent: Sunday, November 12, 2006 8:48:07 AM
> Subject: [AccessD] IATA Airport codes to import into MS Access database
>
> Hi All,
>
> Is there somewhere a file with IATA Airport codes ready to be imported 
> into
> MS Access database?
>
> I mean Airport codes like these:
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_airports_by_IATA_code:_L
>
>
> Thank you.
>
> --
> Shamil
>
>
> -- 
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From gustav at cactus.dk  Sun Nov 12 10:45:12 2006
From: gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Sun, 12 Nov 2006 17:45:12 +0100
Subject: [AccessD] IATA Airport codes to import into MS Access	database
Message-ID: <s5575dbc.036@cactus.dk>

Hi William and Shamil

Here's an alternative:

http://crashpads.com/airport_codes/index.cfm

Don't fill in any field, just press the button to retrieve the full list - which can be saved as is to a text file.

/gustav

>>> wdhindman at dejpolsystems.com 12-11-06 17:28 >>>
...why not post it on dba ...I've got an updated lat/long/post codes with US 
and many international that I'll put up there soon as well ...its a rpita to 
find high quality data lists that really provide what you need

William Hindman

----- Original Message ----- 
From: <artful at rogers.com>
To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving" 
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Sunday, November 12, 2006 10:48 AM
Subject: Re: [AccessD] IATA Airport codes to import into MS Access database


>I grabbed all the data from an airport list (which was subdivided by 
>initial character) and I'm sending you off-list the MDB. If anyone else 
>wants the list, pvt me and I will send it to you as well.
>
> Arthur
>
> ----- Original Message ----
> From: Shamil Salakhetdinov <shamil at users.mns.ru>
> To: Access-D <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
> Sent: Sunday, November 12, 2006 8:48:07 AM
> Subject: [AccessD] IATA Airport codes to import into MS Access database
>
> Hi All,
>
> Is there somewhere a file with IATA Airport codes ready to be imported 
> into
> MS Access database?
>
> I mean Airport codes like these:
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_airports_by_IATA_code:_L
>
>
> Thank you.
>
> --
> Shamil


From wdhindman at dejpolsystems.com  Sun Nov 12 12:47:07 2006
From: wdhindman at dejpolsystems.com (William Hindman)
Date: Sun, 12 Nov 2006 13:47:07 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] IATA Airport codes to import into MS Access	database
References: <s5575dbc.036@cactus.dk>
Message-ID: <000301c7068a$f55d62a0$3e3de844@50NM721>

...tks

William Hindman

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Gustav Brock" <gustav at cactus.dk>
To: <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Sunday, November 12, 2006 11:45 AM
Subject: Re: [AccessD] IATA Airport codes to import into MS Access database


> Hi William and Shamil
>
> Here's an alternative:
>
> http://crashpads.com/airport_codes/index.cfm
>
> Don't fill in any field, just press the button to retrieve the full list - 
> which can be saved as is to a text file.
>
> /gustav
>
>>>> wdhindman at dejpolsystems.com 12-11-06 17:28 >>>
> ...why not post it on dba ...I've got an updated lat/long/post codes with 
> US
> and many international that I'll put up there soon as well ...its a rpita 
> to
> find high quality data lists that really provide what you need
>
> William Hindman
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: <artful at rogers.com>
> To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving"
> <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
> Sent: Sunday, November 12, 2006 10:48 AM
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] IATA Airport codes to import into MS Access 
> database
>
>
>>I grabbed all the data from an airport list (which was subdivided by
>>initial character) and I'm sending you off-list the MDB. If anyone else
>>wants the list, pvt me and I will send it to you as well.
>>
>> Arthur
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----
>> From: Shamil Salakhetdinov <shamil at users.mns.ru>
>> To: Access-D <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
>> Sent: Sunday, November 12, 2006 8:48:07 AM
>> Subject: [AccessD] IATA Airport codes to import into MS Access database
>>
>> Hi All,
>>
>> Is there somewhere a file with IATA Airport codes ready to be imported
>> into
>> MS Access database?
>>
>> I mean Airport codes like these:
>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_airports_by_IATA_code:_L
>>
>>
>> Thank you.
>>
>> --
>> Shamil
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From martyconnelly at shaw.ca  Sun Nov 12 13:33:44 2006
From: martyconnelly at shaw.ca (MartyConnelly)
Date: Sun, 12 Nov 2006 11:33:44 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] IATA Airport codes to import into MS Access database
In-Reply-To: <002901c70677$99b1f500$3e3de844@50NM721>
References: <20061112154838.25114.qmail@web88210.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
	<002901c70677$99b1f500$3e3de844@50NM721>
Message-ID: <45577718.1030204@shaw.ca>

It depends on how accurate you need to be

Here is one site that supplies IATA 3 char and IACO 4 char lists of
airport codes 30,000 total for 50$ in csv format.
Probably a more accurate breakdown
It may include military, emergency and dirt strips.
These are the backwoods ones you fly over at night, send a radio signal
on a pre-set frequency and the runway lights turn on..

http://www.mapping.com/airportcodes.html

IATA sell a subscription for $3000

This site states 9,400 large airports
http://www.world-airport-codes.com/

Some airports are a little odd. I have flown in here
BRR Barra in Outer Hebrides.
The runway is a sand beach, landings and take offs depend on the tide
There are scheduled flights in here

click on satellite map
http://www.world-airport-codes.com/united-kingdom/north-bay-630.html


William Hindman wrote:

>...why not post it on dba ...I've got an updated lat/long/post codes with US 
>and many international that I'll put up there soon as well ...its a rpita to 
>find high quality data lists that really provide what you need
>
>William Hindman
>
>----- Original Message ----- 
>From: <artful at rogers.com>
>To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving" 
><accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
>Sent: Sunday, November 12, 2006 10:48 AM
>Subject: Re: [AccessD] IATA Airport codes to import into MS Access database
>
>
>  
>
>>I grabbed all the data from an airport list (which was subdivided by 
>>initial character) and I'm sending you off-list the MDB. If anyone else 
>>wants the list, pvt me and I will send it to you as well.
>>
>>Arthur
>>
>>----- Original Message ----
>>From: Shamil Salakhetdinov <shamil at users.mns.ru>
>>To: Access-D <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
>>Sent: Sunday, November 12, 2006 8:48:07 AM
>>Subject: [AccessD] IATA Airport codes to import into MS Access database
>>
>>Hi All,
>>
>>Is there somewhere a file with IATA Airport codes ready to be imported 
>>into
>>MS Access database?
>>
>>I mean Airport codes like these:
>>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_airports_by_IATA_code:_L
>>
>>
>>Thank you.
>>
>>--
>>Shamil
>>
>>    
>>
>
>
>
>  
>

-- 
Marty Connelly
Victoria, B.C.
Canada



From dwaters at usinternet.com  Sun Nov 12 13:42:36 2006
From: dwaters at usinternet.com (Dan Waters)
Date: Sun, 12 Nov 2006 13:42:36 -0600
Subject: [AccessD] Requirements Management - What do you do?
Message-ID: <000301c70692$b54b6ec0$0200a8c0@danwaters>

Hello to all!

I'm getting to a point with a customer where it would really help to do some
semi-formal requirements management (good customer - big project).  I've
done a little web searching and bought a book (Software Requirements by
Ellen Gottesdiener - which I do like).

Now to get some comments from the experts!  

I'd like to find out what people on this list do for collecting and managing
the requirements on your projects.  Spreadsheets?  Word docs?  Personal
software?  Professional software?  Anything really good or anything really
bad?


Thanks!
Dan Waters




From prodevmg at yahoo.com  Sun Nov 12 14:22:21 2006
From: prodevmg at yahoo.com (Lonnie Johnson)
Date: Sun, 12 Nov 2006 12:22:21 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [AccessD] Moving items in a listbox with the mouse
Message-ID: <20061112202221.17832.qmail@web33106.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Thanks. They changed their mind.
 








May God bless you beyond your imagination!
Lonnie Johnson
ProDev, Professional Development of MS Access Databases
Visit me at ==> http://www.prodev.us






 



----- Original Message ----
From: Beach Access Software <bchacc at san.rr.com>
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Sunday, November 12, 2006 10:11:45 AM
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Moving items in a listbox with the mouse


I've done this but only with a couple of command buttons labeled 'Move Up'
and 'Move Down' outside the list box.  Worked pretty well, though with some
brute force code, IIRC.  It was a long time ago but I can try to dig it out
if you want to go in that direction.

Rocky


-----Original Message-----
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Sent: Sunday, November 12, 2006 4:38 AM
To: AccessD solving'
Subject: [AccessD] Moving items in a listbox with the mouse

Does anyone know of any method, code or control that I could use to move
order of the items within a list box with a mouse.

So if I have three things in a list box 

CAT
DOG
BIRD

I would like to grab DOG with my mouse and move it up above CAT.

Is that possible?

Thanks.









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From stuart at lexacorp.com.pg  Sun Nov 12 16:06:54 2006
From: stuart at lexacorp.com.pg (Stuart McLachlan)
Date: Mon, 13 Nov 2006 08:06:54 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] IATA Airport codes to import into MS Access database
In-Reply-To: <000001c70661$2f8295b0$6401a8c0@nant>
References: <000001c70661$2f8295b0$6401a8c0@nant>
Message-ID: <45579AFE.19436.9185D37@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>

On 12 Nov 2006 at 16:48, Shamil Salakhetdinov wrote:

> Hi All,
> 
> Is there somewhere a file with IATA Airport codes ready to be imported into
> MS Access database?

Yes, but it's very expensive.  IATA owns the information:
http://www.iata.org/ps/publications/9095.htm

-- 
Stuart




From lizd1 at charter.net  Sun Nov 12 19:53:52 2006
From: lizd1 at charter.net (Liz Doering)
Date: Sun, 12 Nov 2006 19:53:52 -0600
Subject: [AccessD] Requirements Management - What do you do?
In-Reply-To: <000301c70692$b54b6ec0$0200a8c0@danwaters>
Message-ID: <001001c706c6$92a8dd60$6601a8c0@Lillian>

Dan,

At Symphony, we built a 'cost detail' spreadsheet, showing a concise
description of each item to be completed, and a number of hours that item
would cost.  That way, if the client decided Report A, bid at 5 hours, was
not desperately necessary right now, they could specifically exclude it, or
save it for later.  They got a 'line item veto' over almost everything we
had heard them ask for.  (Not everything, if they wanted a report grouped by
X and collecting X was a new feature, they had to pay for both.)  

We also built in some text allowing for a 10% overrun in time and cost,
without their additional approval, and an assurance that we would confer
before going ahead with anything over 10%.

They were asked to sign off on the total before ANY work commenced.

It was a pretty simple document, easy to read if not easy to put together.
I can send a sample off-list if you like.

Thanks,
 
Liz

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Dan Waters
Sent: Sunday, November 12, 2006 1:43 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] Requirements Management - What do you do?

Hello to all!

I'm getting to a point with a customer where it would really help to do some
semi-formal requirements management (good customer - big project).  I've
done a little web searching and bought a book (Software Requirements by
Ellen Gottesdiener - which I do like).

Now to get some comments from the experts!  

I'd like to find out what people on this list do for collecting and managing
the requirements on your projects.  Spreadsheets?  Word docs?  Personal
software?  Professional software?  Anything really good or anything really
bad?


Thanks!
Dan Waters


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From max at sherman.org.uk  Mon Nov 13 00:27:54 2006
From: max at sherman.org.uk (Max Home)
Date: Mon, 13 Nov 2006 06:27:54 -0000
Subject: [AccessD] IATA Airport codes to import into MS Access	database
In-Reply-To: <s5575dbc.036@cactus.dk>
Message-ID: <000001c706ec$db7142f0$8119fea9@Server>

Hi All,
Don't know how accurate this link is.  I have just returned from Thailand
and the airport they are now using for BKK is the new one (Sumarahavi or
something like that - sorry about spelling) whereas this link still shows
Don Muang.
Regards
Max


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gustav Brock
Sent: Sunday, November 12, 2006 4:45 PM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: Re: [AccessD] IATA Airport codes to import into MS Access database

Hi William and Shamil

Here's an alternative:

http://crashpads.com/airport_codes/index.cfm

Don't fill in any field, just press the button to retrieve the full list -
which can be saved as is to a text file.

/gustav

>>> wdhindman at dejpolsystems.com 12-11-06 17:28 >>>
...why not post it on dba ...I've got an updated lat/long/post codes with US

and many international that I'll put up there soon as well ...its a rpita to

find high quality data lists that really provide what you need

William Hindman

----- Original Message ----- 
From: <artful at rogers.com>
To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving" 
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Sunday, November 12, 2006 10:48 AM
Subject: Re: [AccessD] IATA Airport codes to import into MS Access database


>I grabbed all the data from an airport list (which was subdivided by 
>initial character) and I'm sending you off-list the MDB. If anyone else 
>wants the list, pvt me and I will send it to you as well.
>
> Arthur
>
> ----- Original Message ----
> From: Shamil Salakhetdinov <shamil at users.mns.ru>
> To: Access-D <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
> Sent: Sunday, November 12, 2006 8:48:07 AM
> Subject: [AccessD] IATA Airport codes to import into MS Access database
>
> Hi All,
>
> Is there somewhere a file with IATA Airport codes ready to be imported 
> into
> MS Access database?
>
> I mean Airport codes like these:
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_airports_by_IATA_code:_L
>
>
> Thank you.
>
> --
> Shamil
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From krosenstiel at comcast.net  Mon Nov 13 00:43:29 2006
From: krosenstiel at comcast.net (Karen Rosenstiel)
Date: Sun, 12 Nov 2006 22:43:29 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] Requirements Management - What do you do?
In-Reply-To: <001001c706c6$92a8dd60$6601a8c0@Lillian>
Message-ID: <000301c706ef$0836fbc0$6401a8c0@bigmama>

I'd like a copy too, if you don't mind.  krosenstiel at hotmail dot com 


Regards,

Karen Rosenstiel
Seattle WA USA 


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Liz Doering
Sent: Sunday, November 12, 2006 5:54 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Requirements Management - What do you do?

Dan,

At Symphony, we built a 'cost detail' spreadsheet, showing a concise
description of each item to be completed, and a number of hours that item
would cost.  That way, if the client decided Report A, bid at 5 hours, was
not desperately necessary right now, they could specifically exclude it, or
save it for later.  They got a 'line item veto' over almost everything we
had heard them ask for.  (Not everything, if they wanted a report grouped by
X and collecting X was a new feature, they had to pay for both.)  

We also built in some text allowing for a 10% overrun in time and cost,
without their additional approval, and an assurance that we would confer
before going ahead with anything over 10%.

They were asked to sign off on the total before ANY work commenced.

It was a pretty simple document, easy to read if not easy to put together.
I can send a sample off-list if you like.

Thanks,
 
Liz

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Dan Waters
Sent: Sunday, November 12, 2006 1:43 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] Requirements Management - What do you do?

Hello to all!

I'm getting to a point with a customer where it would really help to do some
semi-formal requirements management (good customer - big project).  I've
done a little web searching and bought a book (Software Requirements by
Ellen Gottesdiener - which I do like).

Now to get some comments from the experts!  

I'd like to find out what people on this list do for collecting and managing
the requirements on your projects.  Spreadsheets?  Word docs?  Personal
software?  Professional software?  Anything really good or anything really
bad?


Thanks!
Dan Waters


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From stuart at lexacorp.com.pg  Mon Nov 13 00:59:42 2006
From: stuart at lexacorp.com.pg (Stuart McLachlan)
Date: Mon, 13 Nov 2006 16:59:42 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] IATA Airport codes to import into MS Access database
In-Reply-To: <000001c706ec$db7142f0$8119fea9@Server>
References: <s5575dbc.036@cactus.dk>, <000001c706ec$db7142f0$8119fea9@Server>
Message-ID: <4558A47E.23486.67091F65@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>

On 13 Nov 2006 at 6:27, Max Home wrote:

> Hi All,
> Don't know how accurate this link is.  I have just returned from Thailand
> and the airport they are now using for BKK is the new one (Sumarahavi or
> something like that - sorry about spelling) whereas this link still shows

IATA put out monthly updates, it costs about $3000 a year to subscribe to them :-(




From Gustav at cactus.dk  Mon Nov 13 04:03:45 2006
From: Gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Mon, 13 Nov 2006 11:03:45 +0100
Subject: [AccessD] IATA Airport codes to import into MS	Access	database
Message-ID: <s558511c.044@cactus.dk>

Hi Max

I can't tell, but if you only need city and country it should be OK.

But the link from Marty seems to be up to date with the full information:

  http://www.world-airport-codes.com/ 

For BKK it lists:

  Suvarnabhumi International 

/gustav

>>> max at sherman.org.uk 13-11-2006 07:27 >>>
Hi All,
Don't know how accurate this link is.  I have just returned from Thailand
and the airport they are now using for BKK is the new one (Sumarahavi or
something like that - sorry about spelling) whereas this link still shows
Don Muang.
Regards
Max


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com 
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gustav Brock
Sent: Sunday, November 12, 2006 4:45 PM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com 
Subject: Re: [AccessD] IATA Airport codes to import into MS Access database

Hi William and Shamil

Here's an alternative:

http://crashpads.com/airport_codes/index.cfm 

Don't fill in any field, just press the button to retrieve the full list -
which can be saved as is to a text file.

/gustav




From comres at rpa.net  Mon Nov 13 06:09:27 2006
From: comres at rpa.net (Mark Brown)
Date: Mon, 13 Nov 2006 07:09:27 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Requirements Management - What do you do?
In-Reply-To: <000301c706ef$0836fbc0$6401a8c0@bigmama>
Message-ID: <00bb01c7071c$9aa6cd50$7440d90a@marklaptop>

I would appreciate a copy as well.  Comres at rpa net.

Thanks.

Mark H Brown
Computer Resolutions Inc.



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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Karen Rosenstiel
Sent: Monday, November 13, 2006 1:43 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Requirements Management - What do you do?


I'd like a copy too, if you don't mind.  krosenstiel at hotmail dot com 


Regards,

Karen Rosenstiel
Seattle WA USA 


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Liz Doering
Sent: Sunday, November 12, 2006 5:54 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Requirements Management - What do you do?

Dan,

At Symphony, we built a 'cost detail' spreadsheet, showing a concise
description of each item to be completed, and a number of hours that item
would cost.  That way, if the client decided Report A, bid at 5 hours, was
not desperately necessary right now, they could specifically exclude it, or
save it for later.  They got a 'line item veto' over almost everything we
had heard them ask for.  (Not everything, if they wanted a report grouped by
X and collecting X was a new feature, they had to pay for both.)  

We also built in some text allowing for a 10% overrun in time and cost,
without their additional approval, and an assurance that we would confer
before going ahead with anything over 10%.

They were asked to sign off on the total before ANY work commenced.

It was a pretty simple document, easy to read if not easy to put together. I
can send a sample off-list if you like.

Thanks,
 
Liz

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Dan Waters
Sent: Sunday, November 12, 2006 1:43 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] Requirements Management - What do you do?

Hello to all!

I'm getting to a point with a customer where it would really help to do some
semi-formal requirements management (good customer - big project).  I've
done a little web searching and bought a book (Software Requirements by
Ellen Gottesdiener - which I do like).

Now to get some comments from the experts!  

I'd like to find out what people on this list do for collecting and managing
the requirements on your projects.  Spreadsheets?  Word docs?  Personal
software?  Professional software?  Anything really good or anything really
bad?


Thanks!
Dan Waters


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From JRojas at tnco-inc.com  Mon Nov 13 07:08:31 2006
From: JRojas at tnco-inc.com (Joe Rojas)
Date: Mon, 13 Nov 2006 08:08:31 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Requirements Management - What do you do?
Message-ID: <758E92433C4F3740B67BE4DD369AF5772EDF04@ex2k3.corp.tnco-inc.com>

Could I also get a copy please?
joerojas at gmail.com

Thanks,
Joe Rojas
IT Manager
TNCO, Inc.
781-447-6661 x7506
jrojas at tnco-inc.com

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Mark Brown
Sent: Monday, November 13, 2006 7:09 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Requirements Management - What do you do?

I would appreciate a copy as well.  Comres at rpa net.

Thanks.

Mark H Brown
Computer Resolutions Inc.



-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Karen
Rosenstiel
Sent: Monday, November 13, 2006 1:43 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Requirements Management - What do you do?


I'd like a copy too, if you don't mind.  krosenstiel at hotmail dot com 


Regards,

Karen Rosenstiel
Seattle WA USA 


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Liz Doering
Sent: Sunday, November 12, 2006 5:54 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Requirements Management - What do you do?

Dan,

At Symphony, we built a 'cost detail' spreadsheet, showing a concise
description of each item to be completed, and a number of hours that
item
would cost.  That way, if the client decided Report A, bid at 5 hours,
was
not desperately necessary right now, they could specifically exclude it,
or
save it for later.  They got a 'line item veto' over almost everything
we
had heard them ask for.  (Not everything, if they wanted a report
grouped by
X and collecting X was a new feature, they had to pay for both.)  

We also built in some text allowing for a 10% overrun in time and cost,
without their additional approval, and an assurance that we would confer
before going ahead with anything over 10%.

They were asked to sign off on the total before ANY work commenced.

It was a pretty simple document, easy to read if not easy to put
together. I
can send a sample off-list if you like.

Thanks,
 
Liz

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Dan Waters
Sent: Sunday, November 12, 2006 1:43 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] Requirements Management - What do you do?

Hello to all!

I'm getting to a point with a customer where it would really help to do
some
semi-formal requirements management (good customer - big project).  I've
done a little web searching and bought a book (Software Requirements by
Ellen Gottesdiener - which I do like).

Now to get some comments from the experts!  

I'd like to find out what people on this list do for collecting and
managing
the requirements on your projects.  Spreadsheets?  Word docs?  Personal
software?  Professional software?  Anything really good or anything
really
bad?


Thanks!
Dan Waters


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From artful at rogers.com  Mon Nov 13 07:14:54 2006
From: artful at rogers.com (artful at rogers.com)
Date: Mon, 13 Nov 2006 05:14:54 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [AccessD] IATA Airport codes to import into MS Access database
Message-ID: <20061113131455.38611.qmail@web88203.mail.re2.yahoo.com>

I'll do it as soon as I figure out how to. I don't see a button for Uploads, just for Downloads.

----- Original Message ----
From: William Hindman <wdhindman at dejpolsystems.com>
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Sunday, November 12, 2006 11:28:34 AM
Subject: Re: [AccessD] IATA Airport codes to import into MS Access database

...why not post it on dba ...I've got an updated lat/long/post codes with US 
and many international that I'll put up there soon as well ...its a rpita to 
find high quality data lists that really provide what you need

William Hindman






From dwaters at usinternet.com  Mon Nov 13 07:58:01 2006
From: dwaters at usinternet.com (Dan Waters)
Date: Mon, 13 Nov 2006 07:58:01 -0600
Subject: [AccessD] Requirements Management - What do you do?
In-Reply-To: <18330182.1163383512289.JavaMail.root@sniper28>
Message-ID: <001201c7072b$bd50b640$0200a8c0@danwaters>

Hi Liz!

Yes! I'd definitely like to see that.  This sounds very precise.


Thanks!
Dan Waters
ProMation Systems, Inc.
(W) 763-780-2496
(M) 763-639-2960

-----Original Message-----
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Requirements Management - What do you do?

Dan,

At Symphony, we built a 'cost detail' spreadsheet, showing a concise
description of each item to be completed, and a number of hours that item
would cost.  That way, if the client decided Report A, bid at 5 hours, was
not desperately necessary right now, they could specifically exclude it, or
save it for later.  They got a 'line item veto' over almost everything we
had heard them ask for.  (Not everything, if they wanted a report grouped by
X and collecting X was a new feature, they had to pay for both.)  

We also built in some text allowing for a 10% overrun in time and cost,
without their additional approval, and an assurance that we would confer
before going ahead with anything over 10%.

They were asked to sign off on the total before ANY work commenced.

It was a pretty simple document, easy to read if not easy to put together.
I can send a sample off-list if you like.

Thanks,
 
Liz

-----Original Message-----
Subject: [AccessD] Requirements Management - What do you do?

Hello to all!

I'm getting to a point with a customer where it would really help to do some
semi-formal requirements management (good customer - big project).  I've
done a little web searching and bought a book (Software Requirements by
Ellen Gottesdiener - which I do like).

Now to get some comments from the experts!  

I'd like to find out what people on this list do for collecting and managing
the requirements on your projects.  Spreadsheets?  Word docs?  Personal
software?  Professional software?  Anything really good or anything really
bad?


Thanks!
Dan Waters


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From john at winhaven.net  Mon Nov 13 08:40:29 2006
From: john at winhaven.net (John Bartow)
Date: Mon, 13 Nov 2006 08:40:29 -0600
Subject: [AccessD] XP-mde on A2003?
In-Reply-To: <200611120627.kAC6RRq12802@databaseadvisors.com>
Message-ID: <200611131440.kADEeXq30311@databaseadvisors.com>

Looks like the key issue I missed here the other night was "XP-mde"! 

I was testing this with A2k-mdes. Sorry for any confusion that may have
caused.



From carbonnb at gmail.com  Mon Nov 13 09:30:50 2006
From: carbonnb at gmail.com (Bryan Carbonnell)
Date: Mon, 13 Nov 2006 10:30:50 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] IATA Airport codes to import into MS Access database
In-Reply-To: <20061113131455.38611.qmail@web88203.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
References: <20061113131455.38611.qmail@web88203.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <e04a6c920611130730i64ab9e02gf3bbcadc311bf12a@mail.gmail.com>

On 11/13/06, artful at rogers.com <artful at rogers.com> wrote:
> I'll do it as soon as I figure out how to. I don't see a button for Uploads, just for Downloads.

Send an e-mail to Jim Lawrence and let him know that you have a file
you want to put up on the site.

Jim is the webmaster and can be reached at accessd at shaw.ca or if I've
messed up from memory, you can also try webmaster at databaseadvisors.com

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From andy at minstersystems.co.uk  Mon Nov 13 09:50:42 2006
From: andy at minstersystems.co.uk (Andy Lacey)
Date: Mon, 13 Nov 2006 15:50:42 +0000
Subject: [AccessD] Which Word?
Message-ID: <20061113155047.2B21885CC4@smtp.nildram.co.uk>

If I have Word 97 and Word XP on a machine and I use the construct

Set oAppWord = GetObject(, "Word.Application")

how do I determine which version I get? Having just put XP on this machine I
thought changing the Reference to the Word 10 object library instead of Word
8 would do it, but it hasn't. What's the trick?

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From carbonnb at gmail.com  Mon Nov 13 10:53:43 2006
From: carbonnb at gmail.com (Bryan Carbonnell)
Date: Mon, 13 Nov 2006 11:53:43 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Which Word?
In-Reply-To: <20061113155047.2B21885CC4@smtp.nildram.co.uk>
References: <20061113155047.2B21885CC4@smtp.nildram.co.uk>
Message-ID: <e04a6c920611130853u488cd789o8e4bc3dc121c4a51@mail.gmail.com>

On 11/13/06, Andy Lacey <andy at minstersystems.co.uk> wrote:
> If I have Word 97 and Word XP on a machine and I use the construct
>
> Set oAppWord = GetObject(, "Word.Application")
>
> how do I determine which version I get? Having just put XP on this machine I
> thought changing the Reference to the Word 10 object library instead of Word
> 8 would do it, but it hasn't. What's the trick?

If you use Word.Application, you get the default version of Word.

To get a specific version, you need to use:

Set oAppWord = GetObject(, "Word.Application.8") ' Word 97
Set oAppWord = GetObject(, "Word.Application.9") ' Word 2000
Set oAppWord = GetObject(, "Word.Application.10") ' Word 2002

Same for CreateObject if you are creating the word instance

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From andy at minstersystems.co.uk  Mon Nov 13 11:09:16 2006
From: andy at minstersystems.co.uk (Andy Lacey)
Date: Mon, 13 Nov 2006 17:09:16 +0000
Subject: [AccessD] Which Word?
Message-ID: <20061113170921.71AAB2BBB67@smtp2.nildram.co.uk>

Thanks Bryan. If I wanted to how would I make Word 2002 the default when
Word 97 still there?

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--------- Original Message --------
From: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving"
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To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving"
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Which Word?
Date: 13/11/06 16:55


On 11/13/06, Andy Lacey <andy at minstersystems.co.uk> wrote:
> If I have Word 97 and Word XP on a machine and I use the construct
>
> Set oAppWord = GetObject(, "Word.Application")
>
> how do I determine which version I get? Having just put XP on this machine
I
> thought changing the Reference to the Word 10 object library instead of
Word
> 8 would do it, but it hasn't. What's the trick?

If you use Word.Application, you get the default version of Word.

To get a specific version, you need to use:

Set oAppWord = GetObject(, "Word.Application.8") ' Word 97
Set oAppWord = GetObject(, "Word.Application.9") ' Word 2000
Set oAppWord = GetObject(, "Word.Application.10") ' Word 2002

Same for CreateObject if you are creating the word instance

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From carbonnb at gmail.com  Mon Nov 13 11:16:42 2006
From: carbonnb at gmail.com (Bryan Carbonnell)
Date: Mon, 13 Nov 2006 12:16:42 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Which Word?
In-Reply-To: <20061113170921.71AAB2BBB67@smtp2.nildram.co.uk>
References: <20061113170921.71AAB2BBB67@smtp2.nildram.co.uk>
Message-ID: <e04a6c920611130916g29e0d4efv41d61562ff5eefed@mail.gmail.com>

On 11/13/06, Andy Lacey <andy at minstersystems.co.uk> wrote:
> Thanks Bryan. If I wanted to how would I make Word 2002 the default when
> Word 97 still there?

Ummmm......

Got me on that one. I have no Idea.

Which version opens up when you double click a Word doc in Explorer?

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From andy at minstersystems.co.uk  Mon Nov 13 13:19:42 2006
From: andy at minstersystems.co.uk (Andy Lacey)
Date: Mon, 13 Nov 2006 19:19:42 -0000
Subject: [AccessD] Which Word?
In-Reply-To: <e04a6c920611130916g29e0d4efv41d61562ff5eefed@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <000f01c70758$abf560d0$bf3b0c54@minster33c3r25>

2002, so that's not it. Odd.

Andy

> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com 
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of 
> Bryan Carbonnell
> Sent: 13 November 2006 17:17
> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] Which Word?
> 
> 
> On 11/13/06, Andy Lacey <andy at minstersystems.co.uk> wrote:
> > Thanks Bryan. If I wanted to how would I make Word 2002 the default 
> > when Word 97 still there?
> 
> Ummmm......
> 
> Got me on that one. I have no Idea.
> 
> Which version opens up when you double click a Word doc in Explorer?
> 
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From Kwilliamson at RTKL.com  Mon Nov 13 14:20:38 2006
From: Kwilliamson at RTKL.com (Keith Williamson)
Date: Mon, 13 Nov 2006 15:20:38 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] query expression help
In-Reply-To: <000f01c70758$abf560d0$bf3b0c54@minster33c3r25>
Message-ID: <EFFF0FE60ECFB4429947B7659801327B04EF5FE3@EDGAR.rtkl.rtkl.net>

Hey guys....

I'm blanking.  If I want to create an expression, in a query, that
checks another field for specific text....ie:

Check field [ProfitCenterName] with value of:

Associates Retail Balto.Architecture

....to see if "Architect" is within the text...and if so, return a value
of "21".......

How do I do this?  I've got a query, I want to check the text within
another field....to see if certain text is buried within the value of
that field...and if so, populate the expression I am building in the
query.

Thanks,

Keith E. Williamson | Assist. Controller| kwilliamson at rtkl.com

RTKL Associates Inc. | 901 South Bond Street | Baltimore, Maryland
21231-3305

410-537-6098 direct | 410-276-2136 fax | www.rtkl.com



From cfoust at infostatsystems.com  Mon Nov 13 14:37:12 2006
From: cfoust at infostatsystems.com (Charlotte Foust)
Date: Mon, 13 Nov 2006 12:37:12 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] query expression help
In-Reply-To: <EFFF0FE60ECFB4429947B7659801327B04EF5FE3@EDGAR.rtkl.rtkl.net>
Message-ID: <F55048AF7E974F429BB24597D7355EEA1783BC@INFOSERVER04.infostat.local>

Use InStr().  It returns the starting position of one thread in another.

Charlotte Foust 

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Keith
Williamson
Sent: Monday, November 13, 2006 12:21 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: [AccessD] query expression help

Hey guys....

I'm blanking.  If I want to create an expression, in a query, that
checks another field for specific text....ie:

Check field [ProfitCenterName] with value of:

Associates Retail Balto.Architecture

....to see if "Architect" is within the text...and if so, return a value
of "21".......

How do I do this?  I've got a query, I want to check the text within
another field....to see if certain text is buried within the value of
that field...and if so, populate the expression I am building in the
query.

Thanks,

Keith E. Williamson | Assist. Controller| kwilliamson at rtkl.com

RTKL Associates Inc. | 901 South Bond Street | Baltimore, Maryland
21231-3305

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From Lambert.Heenan at AIG.com  Mon Nov 13 14:33:19 2006
From: Lambert.Heenan at AIG.com (Heenan, Lambert)
Date: Mon, 13 Nov 2006 14:33:19 -0600
Subject: [AccessD] query expression help
Message-ID: <34C8A2AB1EF3564CB0D64DB6AFFDD5C206827A@xlivmbx35.aig.com>

Using a calculated field expression in the query...

Calc Field Name: Iif(Instr([ProfitCenterName],"Architect")>0,"True
Value","False Value") 

This example creates a field called "Calc Field Name" which will wind up
with a string value of either "True Value" or "False Value". Of course you
can equally easily arrange for IIF() to return numeric values or date
values, whatever you need.

Lambert

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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Keith Williamson
Sent: Monday, November 13, 2006 3:21 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: [AccessD] query expression help


Hey guys....

I'm blanking.  If I want to create an expression, in a query, that checks
another field for specific text....ie:

Check field [ProfitCenterName] with value of:

Associates Retail Balto.Architecture

....to see if "Architect" is within the text...and if so, return a value of
"21".......

How do I do this?  I've got a query, I want to check the text within another
field....to see if certain text is buried within the value of that
field...and if so, populate the expression I am building in the query.

Thanks,

Keith E. Williamson | Assist. Controller| kwilliamson at rtkl.com

RTKL Associates Inc. | 901 South Bond Street | Baltimore, Maryland
21231-3305

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From carbonnb at gmail.com  Mon Nov 13 16:30:16 2006
From: carbonnb at gmail.com (Bryan Carbonnell)
Date: Mon, 13 Nov 2006 17:30:16 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Which Word?
In-Reply-To: <000f01c70758$abf560d0$bf3b0c54@minster33c3r25>
References: <e04a6c920611130916g29e0d4efv41d61562ff5eefed@mail.gmail.com>
	<000f01c70758$abf560d0$bf3b0c54@minster33c3r25>
Message-ID: <e04a6c920611131430q52634bd5uc0ea48e393b33a95@mail.gmail.com>

On 11/13/06, Andy Lacey <andy at minstersystems.co.uk> wrote:
> 2002, so that's not it. Odd.

Quite. I dunno then. I'm out of ideas.

Maybe a decompile, compact and recompile will do it without the
version in the GetObject.

Just a WAG.

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From Kwilliamson at RTKL.com  Mon Nov 13 16:41:18 2006
From: Kwilliamson at RTKL.com (Keith Williamson)
Date: Mon, 13 Nov 2006 17:41:18 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] query expression help
In-Reply-To: <34C8A2AB1EF3564CB0D64DB6AFFDD5C206827A@xlivmbx35.aig.com>
Message-ID: <EFFF0FE60ECFB4429947B7659801327B04F25AD3@EDGAR.rtkl.rtkl.net>

Thanks guys!!!!

Regards,

Keith E. Williamson | Assist. Controller| kwilliamson at rtkl.com

RTKL Associates Inc. | 901 South Bond Street | Baltimore, Maryland
21231-3305

410-537-6098 direct | 410-276-2136 fax | www.rtkl.com


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Heenan,
Lambert
Sent: Monday, November 13, 2006 3:33 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: Re: [AccessD] query expression help

Using a calculated field expression in the query...

Calc Field Name: Iif(Instr([ProfitCenterName],"Architect")>0,"True
Value","False Value") 

This example creates a field called "Calc Field Name" which will wind up
with a string value of either "True Value" or "False Value". Of course
you
can equally easily arrange for IIF() to return numeric values or date
values, whatever you need.

Lambert

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Keith
Williamson
Sent: Monday, November 13, 2006 3:21 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: [AccessD] query expression help


Hey guys....

I'm blanking.  If I want to create an expression, in a query, that
checks
another field for specific text....ie:

Check field [ProfitCenterName] with value of:

Associates Retail Balto.Architecture

....to see if "Architect" is within the text...and if so, return a value
of
"21".......

How do I do this?  I've got a query, I want to check the text within
another
field....to see if certain text is buried within the value of that
field...and if so, populate the expression I am building in the query.

Thanks,

Keith E. Williamson | Assist. Controller| kwilliamson at rtkl.com

RTKL Associates Inc. | 901 South Bond Street | Baltimore, Maryland
21231-3305

410-537-6098 direct | 410-276-2136 fax | www.rtkl.com

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From Jim.Hale at FleetPride.com  Mon Nov 13 17:27:11 2006
From: Jim.Hale at FleetPride.com (Hale, Jim)
Date: Mon, 13 Nov 2006 17:27:11 -0600
Subject: [AccessD] Which Word?
Message-ID: <6A6AA9DF57E4F046BDA1E273BDDB67727DE0F9@corp-es01.fleetpride.com>

Maybe CreateObject would do the trick instead of GetObject?

"If the pathname argument is omitted, GetObject returns a currently active
object of the specified type. 
Use CreateObject when there is no current instance of the object. If an
instance of the object is already running, a new instance is started, and an
object of the specified type is created. To use the current instance, or to
start the application and have it load a file, use the GetObject function."

Jim Hale

-----Original Message-----
From: Andy Lacey [mailto:andy at minstersystems.co.uk]
Sent: Monday, November 13, 2006 9:51 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: [AccessD] Which Word?


If I have Word 97 and Word XP on a machine and I use the construct

Set oAppWord = GetObject(, "Word.Application")

how do I determine which version I get? Having just put XP on this machine I
thought changing the Reference to the Word 10 object library instead of Word
8 would do it, but it hasn't. What's the trick?

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From DWUTKA at marlow.com  Mon Nov 13 18:15:32 2006
From: DWUTKA at marlow.com (DWUTKA at marlow.com)
Date: Mon, 13 Nov 2006 18:15:32 -0600
Subject: [AccessD] XP-mde on A2003?
Message-ID: <17724746D360394AA3BFE5B8D40A9C1B0139B839@MARLOW_MAIN2.marlow.com>

Probably already answered, but just put it in 2000 format, that way it's
usable to both versions.

Drew

-----Original Message-----
From: Lembit Soobik [mailto:lembit.dbamail at t-online.de] 
Sent: Saturday, November 11, 2006 12:23 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: [AccessD] XP-mde on A2003?

Hi everyone,
I have been asked to write an Access db for a friend.
I have Access-XP (2002) on my machine
he has Access 2003

can he run an mde from me on his machine?

thank you 
Lembit

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From cfoust at infostatsystems.com  Mon Nov 13 18:29:57 2006
From: cfoust at infostatsystems.com (Charlotte Foust)
Date: Mon, 13 Nov 2006 16:29:57 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] XP-mde on A2003?
In-Reply-To: <17724746D360394AA3BFE5B8D40A9C1B0139B839@MARLOW_MAIN2.marlow.com>
Message-ID: <F55048AF7E974F429BB24597D7355EEA1783CC@INFOSERVER04.infostat.local>

But you can't create a 2000 format mde from either XP or 2003, only from
2000.

Charlotte Foust 

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of
DWUTKA at marlow.com
Sent: Monday, November 13, 2006 4:16 PM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: Re: [AccessD] XP-mde on A2003?

Probably already answered, but just put it in 2000 format, that way it's
usable to both versions.

Drew

-----Original Message-----
From: Lembit Soobik [mailto:lembit.dbamail at t-online.de]
Sent: Saturday, November 11, 2006 12:23 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: [AccessD] XP-mde on A2003?

Hi everyone,
I have been asked to write an Access db for a friend.
I have Access-XP (2002) on my machine
he has Access 2003

can he run an mde from me on his machine?

thank you
Lembit

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From darrend at nimble.com.au  Mon Nov 13 18:41:47 2006
From: darrend at nimble.com.au (Darren DICK)
Date: Tue, 14 Nov 2006 11:41:47 +1100
Subject: [AccessD] A2000: Import Needs
Message-ID: <004101c70785$ac10dea0$05000100@DENZILLAP>

Hi all
 
I have been given large (very large) text files to manipulate
 
I can Import them using the fixed width method and I can even attach them using
the get External data wizard - It all works OK
 
But the issue with these files is that one file may contain different data types
- all determined by a 3 character code in the first 3 positions in the left most
position of each line
 
EG we may have 3000 lines of data that start with "ABC" - Cool - I can create an
import spec - Call it the ABC import spec and break up each line into the
relevant fields in a table using fixed width - Easy
 
But after the 3000 "ABC" data type lines in my text file - there may be 1200
lines that start with "DEF" as the left most 3 characters and the data in each
of the "EFG" type lines need to be 'mapped' at different fixed lengths into
different fields
 
So the issue is - has anybody had experience kind of 'merging' several Import
Specs but only across 1 file?
 
Or does anyone have any suggestions on handling this?
 
Many thanks in advance
 
Darren


From DWUTKA at marlow.com  Mon Nov 13 19:12:20 2006
From: DWUTKA at marlow.com (DWUTKA at marlow.com)
Date: Mon, 13 Nov 2006 19:12:20 -0600
Subject: [AccessD] A2000: Import Needs
Message-ID: <17724746D360394AA3BFE5B8D40A9C1B0139B83A@MARLOW_MAIN2.marlow.com>

Just a quick thought, split the file into separate files, and import the
separate ones with their own specs.

For example:

Function RunImports(strPathToFileToImport as string)
Dim f as long
Dim strTemp as string
Dim I as Long
dim ABCCollection as collection
dim DEFCollection as collection
dim EFGCollection as Collection
dim strArray() as string
set ABCCollection=new Collection
set DEFCollection=New Collection
set EFGCollection=New Collection
f=freefile
Open strPathToFileToImport for binary access read as f
Strtemp=space(lof(f))
Get f,,strtemp
Close f
strArray=split(strtemp,vbcrlf)
for i=0 to ubound(strArray())
	select Case Left(strArray(i))
		Case "ABC"
			ABCCollection.Add strArray(i)
		Case "DEF"
			DEFCollection.Add strArray(i)
		Case "EFG"
			EFGCollection.Add strArray(i)
	End select
Next i



Now you have three collections that have the data you want to import.  You
simply have to create temp files with them, ie:

F=freefile
Open "C:\ABCTempFile.txt" for binary access write as f
For i=1 to ABCCollection.Count
	Put f,,ABCCollection(i) & vbcrlf
Next i
Close f

Then run the import, with the right spec:

DoCmd.TransferText .....

Delete the temp file

Kill "C:\ABCTempFile.txt"

Then repeat for the other collections.

You could get more complex, and have it all done with one collection, using
individual collections, etc.  Just depends how much time you want to spend
on creating the process.

Drew

-----Original Message-----
From: Darren DICK [mailto:darrend at nimble.com.au] 
Sent: Monday, November 13, 2006 6:42 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] A2000: Import Needs

Hi all
 
I have been given large (very large) text files to manipulate
 
I can Import them using the fixed width method and I can even attach them
using
the get External data wizard - It all works OK
 
But the issue with these files is that one file may contain different data
types
- all determined by a 3 character code in the first 3 positions in the left
most
position of each line
 
EG we may have 3000 lines of data that start with "ABC" - Cool - I can
create an
import spec - Call it the ABC import spec and break up each line into the
relevant fields in a table using fixed width - Easy
 
But after the 3000 "ABC" data type lines in my text file - there may be 1200
lines that start with "DEF" as the left most 3 characters and the data in
each
of the "EFG" type lines need to be 'mapped' at different fixed lengths into
different fields
 
So the issue is - has anybody had experience kind of 'merging' several
Import
Specs but only across 1 file?
 
Or does anyone have any suggestions on handling this?
 
Many thanks in advance
 
Darren
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From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com  Mon Nov 13 19:41:10 2006
From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (JWColby)
Date: Mon, 13 Nov 2006 20:41:10 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] XP-mde on A2003?
In-Reply-To: <F55048AF7E974F429BB24597D7355EEA1783CC@INFOSERVER04.infostat.local>
Message-ID: <006d01c7078d$f7ac0ee0$657aa8c0@m6805>

IIRC He never actually said he needed 2003 specific stuff, only that it
needed to run on 2003.  Thus do the entire thing in 2000.  Make the MDE in
20000.  Then run it in 2000, 2002 or 2003 as required.

John W. Colby
Colby Consulting
www.ColbyConsulting.com

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Charlotte Foust
Sent: Monday, November 13, 2006 7:30 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] XP-mde on A2003?

But you can't create a 2000 format mde from either XP or 2003, only from
2000.

Charlotte Foust 

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of DWUTKA at marlow.com
Sent: Monday, November 13, 2006 4:16 PM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: Re: [AccessD] XP-mde on A2003?

Probably already answered, but just put it in 2000 format, that way it's
usable to both versions.

Drew

-----Original Message-----
From: Lembit Soobik [mailto:lembit.dbamail at t-online.de]
Sent: Saturday, November 11, 2006 12:23 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: [AccessD] XP-mde on A2003?

Hi everyone,
I have been asked to write an Access db for a friend.
I have Access-XP (2002) on my machine
he has Access 2003

can he run an mde from me on his machine?

thank you
Lembit

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From darrend at nimble.com.au  Mon Nov 13 19:53:53 2006
From: darrend at nimble.com.au (Darren DICK)
Date: Tue, 14 Nov 2006 12:53:53 +1100
Subject: [AccessD] A2000: Import Needs
In-Reply-To: <17724746D360394AA3BFE5B8D40A9C1B0139B83A@MARLOW_MAIN2.marlow.com>
Message-ID: <004601c7078f$be8dcbb0$05000100@DENZILLAP>

Hey Drew

Many thanks for this - I will give it a go - excellent

Way out of my league :-)))
 
See ya

Darren
------------------


-----Original Message-----
From: DWUTKA at marlow.com [mailto:DWUTKA at marlow.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, 14 November 2006 12:12 PM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: Re: [AccessD] A2000: Import Needs

Just a quick thought, split the file into separate files, and import the
separate ones with their own specs.

For example:

Function RunImports(strPathToFileToImport as string)
Dim f as long
Dim strTemp as string
Dim I as Long
dim ABCCollection as collection
dim DEFCollection as collection
dim EFGCollection as Collection
dim strArray() as string
set ABCCollection=new Collection
set DEFCollection=New Collection
set EFGCollection=New Collection
f=freefile
Open strPathToFileToImport for binary access read as f
Strtemp=space(lof(f))
Get f,,strtemp
Close f
strArray=split(strtemp,vbcrlf)
for i=0 to ubound(strArray())
	select Case Left(strArray(i))
		Case "ABC"
			ABCCollection.Add strArray(i)
		Case "DEF"
			DEFCollection.Add strArray(i)
		Case "EFG"
			EFGCollection.Add strArray(i)
	End select
Next i



Now you have three collections that have the data you want to import.  You
simply have to create temp files with them, ie:

F=freefile
Open "C:\ABCTempFile.txt" for binary access write as f
For i=1 to ABCCollection.Count
	Put f,,ABCCollection(i) & vbcrlf
Next i
Close f

Then run the import, with the right spec:

DoCmd.TransferText .....

Delete the temp file

Kill "C:\ABCTempFile.txt"

Then repeat for the other collections.

You could get more complex, and have it all done with one collection, using
individual collections, etc.  Just depends how much time you want to spend
on creating the process.

Drew

-----Original Message-----
From: Darren DICK [mailto:darrend at nimble.com.au] 
Sent: Monday, November 13, 2006 6:42 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] A2000: Import Needs

Hi all
 
I have been given large (very large) text files to manipulate
 
I can Import them using the fixed width method and I can even attach them
using
the get External data wizard - It all works OK
 
But the issue with these files is that one file may contain different data
types
- all determined by a 3 character code in the first 3 positions in the left
most
position of each line
 
EG we may have 3000 lines of data that start with "ABC" - Cool - I can
create an
import spec - Call it the ABC import spec and break up each line into the
relevant fields in a table using fixed width - Easy
 
But after the 3000 "ABC" data type lines in my text file - there may be 1200
lines that start with "DEF" as the left most 3 characters and the data in
each
of the "EFG" type lines need to be 'mapped' at different fixed lengths into
different fields
 
So the issue is - has anybody had experience kind of 'merging' several
Import
Specs but only across 1 file?
 
Or does anyone have any suggestions on handling this?
 
Many thanks in advance
 
Darren
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From accessd at shaw.ca  Mon Nov 13 21:08:53 2006
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Mon, 13 Nov 2006 19:08:53 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] ATA airport list for the DBA list
In-Reply-To: <17724746D360394AA3BFE5B8D40A9C1B0139B83A@MARLOW_MAIN2.marlow.com>
Message-ID: <0J8P008P9A0Q1191@l-daemon>

Hi All:

Please find on the front page of the DBA web site
(http://www.databaseadvisors.com) access to the ATA airport list as provided
by Art Fuller... Thank you very much Arthur.

Regards
Jim

If you have any problems with accessing the site and/or downloading the file
send a note to: webmaster at databaseadvisors.com 



From ssharkins at setel.com  Mon Nov 13 21:30:14 2006
From: ssharkins at setel.com (Susan Harkins)
Date: Mon, 13 Nov 2006 22:30:14 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] ATA airport list for the DBA list
In-Reply-To: <0J8P008P9A0Q1191@l-daemon>
Message-ID: <003201c7079d$33481390$39b82ad1@SUSANONE>

Thanks Jim, but what's the big white overlay block just above the airplane?
Is something supposed to be there? 

Susan H. 

Hi All:

Please find on the front page of the DBA web site
(http://www.databaseadvisors.com) access to the ATA airport list as provided
by Art Fuller... Thank you very much Arthur.

Regards



From prodevmg at yahoo.com  Mon Nov 13 22:28:31 2006
From: prodevmg at yahoo.com (Lonnie Johnson)
Date: Mon, 13 Nov 2006 20:28:31 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [AccessD] Unable to bookmark after record is deleted
Message-ID: <20061114042831.4205.qmail@web33110.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

I have a process that deletes a record in a recordset of a subform via vba, then requeries the subform object. Then I try to move to another record using the bookmark and I get a message that says there is not current record for the recordset clone of the subform?  I know there are records, this only happens when I delete or insert a record into the underlying recordset.
 








May God bless you beyond your imagination!
Lonnie Johnson
ProDev, Professional Development of MS Access Databases
Visit me at ==> http://www.prodev.us



From accessd at shaw.ca  Mon Nov 13 23:03:37 2006
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Mon, 13 Nov 2006 21:03:37 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] ATA airport list for the DBA list
In-Reply-To: <003201c7079d$33481390$39b82ad1@SUSANONE>
Message-ID: <0J8P0079ZFBY0IP0@l-daemon>

Hi Susan:

I have run FF and IE and am not sure what you are seeing... could you send
me a picture of the page your computer produces.

Thanks
Jim 

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Susan Harkins
Sent: Monday, November 13, 2006 7:30 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: Re: [AccessD] ATA airport list for the DBA list

Thanks Jim, but what's the big white overlay block just above the airplane?
Is something supposed to be there? 

Susan H. 

Hi All:

Please find on the front page of the DBA web site
(http://www.databaseadvisors.com) access to the ATA airport list as provided
by Art Fuller... Thank you very much Arthur.

Regards

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From john at winhaven.net  Mon Nov 13 23:21:48 2006
From: john at winhaven.net (John Bartow)
Date: Mon, 13 Nov 2006 23:21:48 -0600
Subject: [AccessD] XP-mde on A2003?
In-Reply-To: <200611120627.kAC6RRq12802@databaseadvisors.com>
Message-ID: <200611140521.kAE5Lhq21212@databaseadvisors.com>

Could someone please try this 5 minute exercise replacing A2k with A2k2 and
let me know for sure? 

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of John Bartow
Sent: Sunday, November 12, 2006 12:27 AM

To test this again, I created a new db db1.mdb
	created (only) one form with a label that says "TEST" and no module
	made it the startup form
created an mde from db1.mdb - error "you cannot create a Microsoft Access
ADE or MDE from a database saved in Microsoft Access 2000 format"
converted db1.mdb to a2k3 - db2.mdb
created an mde from db2.mdb - db2.mde

opened db1.mdb in a2k3 - worked
opened db2.mdb with a2k3 - worked
opened db2.mde with a2k3 - worked

opened db1.mdb in a2k - worked
opened db2.mdb with a2k and get error "this database is in an unrecognized
format"
opened db2.mde with a2k and get error "this database is in an unrecognized
format"




From Johncliviger at aol.com  Tue Nov 14 04:45:19 2006
From: Johncliviger at aol.com (Johncliviger at aol.com)
Date: Tue, 14 Nov 2006 05:45:19 EST
Subject: [AccessD] Offensive Words List
Message-ID: <ca2.1d12900.328af83f@aol.com>

Hi all
 
I'm down loading  product enquiry details from a web site and then posting 
out catalogues via  snail mail. However I?m getting offensive names and 
requests. I Need to filter  out these obscenities. Does anyone have a list of 
proscribed words and what is  the approach to this problem? We are using Windows and 
Access XP. 
I can't alter the web  site so the filtering must be done in Access. 
TIA 
johnc


From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com  Tue Nov 14 05:41:50 2006
From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (JWColby)
Date: Tue, 14 Nov 2006 06:41:50 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Offensive Words List
In-Reply-To: <ca2.1d12900.328af83f@aol.com>
Message-ID: <007901c707e1$e14c52a0$657aa8c0@m6805>

LOL.  The things people do (and we have to undo).  

John W. Colby
Colby Consulting
www.ColbyConsulting.com

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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of
Johncliviger at aol.com
Sent: Tuesday, November 14, 2006 5:45 AM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [AccessD] Offensive Words List

Hi all
 
I'm down loading  product enquiry details from a web site and then posting
out catalogues via  snail mail. However I'm getting offensive names and
requests. I Need to filter  out these obscenities. Does anyone have a list
of proscribed words and what is  the approach to this problem? We are using
Windows and Access XP. 
I can't alter the web  site so the filtering must be done in Access. 
TIA
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From andy at minstersystems.co.uk  Tue Nov 14 05:44:57 2006
From: andy at minstersystems.co.uk (Andy Lacey)
Date: Tue, 14 Nov 2006 11:44:57 +0000
Subject: [AccessD] Offensive Words List
Message-ID: <20061114114500.BDD712BAE27@smtp2.nildram.co.uk>

Hi John

My customer's ISP has 'bad word' lists. I've exported them into text files
and can send them off-list if you want me to. They'll make you blush though!

--
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http://www.minstersystems.co.uk




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From: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving"
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
To: "accessd at databaseadvisors.com" <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Subject: [AccessD] Offensive Words List
Date: 14/11/06 10:46

Hi all

I'm down loading product enquiry details from a web site and then posting
out catalogues via snail mail. However I???m getting offensive names and
requests. I Need to filter out these obscenities. Does anyone have a list of
proscribed words and what is the approach to this problem? We are using
Windows and
Access XP.
I can't alter the web site so the filtering must be done in Access.
TIA
johnc
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From Gustav at cactus.dk  Tue Nov 14 05:53:13 2006
From: Gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Tue, 14 Nov 2006 12:53:13 +0100
Subject: [AccessD] Unable to bookmark after record is deleted
Message-ID: <s559bc57.066@cactus.dk>

Hi Lonnie

When you delete a record the bookmarks are destroyed.
Before you delete, retrieve the ID of the bookmarked record, delete, locate the bookmarked record by its ID, and reestablish the bookmark.

/gustav

>>> prodevmg at yahoo.com 14-11-2006 05:28:31 >>>
I have a process that deletes a record in a recordset of a subform via vba, then requeries the subform object. Then I try to move to another record using the bookmark and I get a message that says there is not current record for the recordset clone of the subform?  I know there are records, this only happens when I delete or insert a record into the underlying recordset.




From Johncliviger at aol.com  Tue Nov 14 06:04:46 2006
From: Johncliviger at aol.com (Johncliviger at aol.com)
Date: Tue, 14 Nov 2006 07:04:46 EST
Subject: [AccessD] Offensive Words List
Message-ID: <cfe.1d68705.328b0ade@aol.com>

Hi Andy
 
Thanks for the offer. I'll take you on it if I may. I've found a list on  
this site _http://www.badscience.net/?p=228_ (http://www.badscience.net/?p=228) 
 
but its not in a format I can use.
 
regards
 
johnc


From andy at minstersystems.co.uk  Tue Nov 14 06:12:09 2006
From: andy at minstersystems.co.uk (Andy Lacey)
Date: Tue, 14 Nov 2006 12:12:09 +0000
Subject: [AccessD] Offensive Words List
Message-ID: <20061114121212.BEBB62B5E2C@smtp2.nildram.co.uk>

On their way.

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To: "accessd at databaseadvisors.com" <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Offensive Words List
Date: 14/11/06 12:05


Hi Andy

Thanks for the offer. I'll take you on it if I may. I've found a list on
this site _http://www.badscience.net/?p=228_
(http://www.badscience.net/?p=228)

but its not in a format I can use.

regards

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From max at sherman.org.uk  Tue Nov 14 07:29:01 2006
From: max at sherman.org.uk (Max Home)
Date: Tue, 14 Nov 2006 13:29:01 -0000
Subject: [AccessD] Offensive Words List
In-Reply-To: <20061114114500.BDD712BAE27@smtp2.nildram.co.uk>
Message-ID: <004b01c707f0$da187590$8119fea9@Server>

Yes please Andy.  I support a charity with on-line merchandise and this may come in handy.
Regards
Max
Please send to max.wanadoo at gmail.com


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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Andy Lacey
Sent: Tuesday, November 14, 2006 11:45 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Offensive Words List

Hi John

My customer's ISP has 'bad word' lists. I've exported them into text files
and can send them off-list if you want me to. They'll make you blush though!

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http://www.minstersystems.co.uk




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<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
To: "accessd at databaseadvisors.com" <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Subject: [AccessD] Offensive Words List
Date: 14/11/06 10:46

Hi all

I'm down loading product enquiry details from a web site and then posting
out catalogues via snail mail. However I???m getting offensive names and
requests. I Need to filter out these obscenities. Does anyone have a list of
proscribed words and what is the approach to this problem? We are using
Windows and
Access XP.
I can't alter the web site so the filtering must be done in Access.
TIA
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From artful at rogers.com  Tue Nov 14 07:57:56 2006
From: artful at rogers.com (artful at rogers.com)
Date: Tue, 14 Nov 2006 05:57:56 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [AccessD] Requirements Development
Message-ID: <20061114135756.73846.qmail@web88204.mail.re2.yahoo.com>

What a timely arrival, given the thread about writing requirements.

http://newsletters.sdmediagroup.com/cgi-bin4/DM/y/h1mC0GGzBY0JSg0ErCM0E1

(You will probably have to register for this, but it's free.)

Arthur



From artful at rogers.com  Tue Nov 14 08:09:49 2006
From: artful at rogers.com (artful at rogers.com)
Date: Tue, 14 Nov 2006 06:09:49 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [AccessD] Unable to bookmark after record is deleted
Message-ID: <20061114140949.62082.qmail@web88212.mail.re2.yahoo.com>

This sounds as if you are creating the bookmark at the wrong moment.

Arthur

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From: Lonnie Johnson <prodevmg at yahoo.com>
To: AccessD solving' <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Monday, November 13, 2006 11:28:31 PM
Subject: [AccessD] Unable to bookmark after record is deleted

I have a process that deletes a record in a recordset of a subform via vba, then requeries the subform object. Then I try to move to another record using the bookmark and I get a message that says there is not current record for the recordset clone of the subform?  I know there are records, this only happens when I delete or insert a record into the underlying recordset.
 








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From artful at rogers.com  Tue Nov 14 08:11:17 2006
From: artful at rogers.com (artful at rogers.com)
Date: Tue, 14 Nov 2006 06:11:17 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [AccessD] ATA airport list for the DBA list
Message-ID: <20061114141117.63374.qmail@web88212.mail.re2.yahoo.com>

I'm running FF and not seeing anything weird. Looks just fine, and perhaps fancy, to me. 

Arthur

----- Original Message ----
From: Jim Lawrence <accessd at shaw.ca>
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Tuesday, November 14, 2006 12:03:37 AM
Subject: Re: [AccessD] ATA airport list for the DBA list

Hi Susan:

I have run FF and IE and am not sure what you are seeing... could you send
me a picture of the page your computer produces.

Thanks
Jim 

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Susan Harkins
Sent: Monday, November 13, 2006 7:30 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: Re: [AccessD] ATA airport list for the DBA list

Thanks Jim, but what's the big white overlay block just above the airplane?
Is something supposed to be there? 

Susan H. 

Hi All:

Please find on the front page of the DBA web site
(http://www.databaseadvisors.com) access to the ATA airport list as provided
by Art Fuller... Thank you very much Arthur.

Regards

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From Gustav at cactus.dk  Tue Nov 14 08:42:21 2006
From: Gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Tue, 14 Nov 2006 15:42:21 +0100
Subject: [AccessD] ATA airport list for the DBA list
Message-ID: <s559e401.073@cactus.dk>

Hi Susan

My browser mirrors the airplane left-right ...

>>> artful at rogers.com 14-11-2006 15:11:17 >>>
I'm running FF and not seeing anything weird. Looks just fine, and perhaps fancy, to me. 

Arthur

----- Original Message ----
From: Jim Lawrence <accessd at shaw.ca>
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Tuesday, November 14, 2006 12:03:37 AM
Subject: Re: [AccessD] ATA airport list for the DBA list

Hi Susan:

I have run FF and IE and am not sure what you are seeing... could you send
me a picture of the page your computer produces.

Thanks
Jim 

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com 
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Susan Harkins
Sent: Monday, November 13, 2006 7:30 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: Re: [AccessD] ATA airport list for the DBA list

Thanks Jim, but what's the big white overlay block just above the airplane?
Is something supposed to be there? 

Susan H. 



From JHewson at karta.com  Tue Nov 14 08:47:14 2006
From: JHewson at karta.com (Jim Hewson)
Date: Tue, 14 Nov 2006 08:47:14 -0600
Subject: [AccessD] ATA airport list for the DBA list
Message-ID: <9C382E065F54AE48BC3AA7925DCBB01C04ABAE3C@karta-exc-int.Karta.com>

It looks fine to me except the Airplane picture is backwards.
The plane is taking off to the right and should be taking off to the left.
The lettering on the aircraft is backwards.

Jim 
jhewson at karta.com
 
-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gustav Brock
Sent: Tuesday, November 14, 2006 8:42 AM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: Re: [AccessD] ATA airport list for the DBA list

Hi Susan

My browser mirrors the airplane left-right ...

>>> artful at rogers.com 14-11-2006 15:11:17 >>>
I'm running FF and not seeing anything weird. Looks just fine, and perhaps fancy, to me. 

Arthur

----- Original Message ----
From: Jim Lawrence <accessd at shaw.ca>
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Tuesday, November 14, 2006 12:03:37 AM
Subject: Re: [AccessD] ATA airport list for the DBA list

Hi Susan:

I have run FF and IE and am not sure what you are seeing... could you send
me a picture of the page your computer produces.

Thanks
Jim 

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com 
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Susan Harkins
Sent: Monday, November 13, 2006 7:30 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: Re: [AccessD] ATA airport list for the DBA list

Thanks Jim, but what's the big white overlay block just above the airplane?
Is something supposed to be there? 

Susan H. 

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From cfoust at infostatsystems.com  Tue Nov 14 10:20:56 2006
From: cfoust at infostatsystems.com (Charlotte Foust)
Date: Tue, 14 Nov 2006 08:20:56 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] XP-mde on A2003?
In-Reply-To: <006d01c7078d$f7ac0ee0$657aa8c0@m6805>
Message-ID: <F55048AF7E974F429BB24597D7355EEA1783D0@INFOSERVER04.infostat.local>

I realize that, but with one machine running XP and one running 2003,
there doesn't appear to be an A2K in the mix to create that pesky mde.

Charlotte Foust 

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of JWColby
Sent: Monday, November 13, 2006 5:41 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: Re: [AccessD] XP-mde on A2003?

IIRC He never actually said he needed 2003 specific stuff, only that it
needed to run on 2003.  Thus do the entire thing in 2000.  Make the MDE
in 20000.  Then run it in 2000, 2002 or 2003 as required.

John W. Colby
Colby Consulting
www.ColbyConsulting.com

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Charlotte
Foust
Sent: Monday, November 13, 2006 7:30 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] XP-mde on A2003?

But you can't create a 2000 format mde from either XP or 2003, only from
2000.

Charlotte Foust 

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of
DWUTKA at marlow.com
Sent: Monday, November 13, 2006 4:16 PM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: Re: [AccessD] XP-mde on A2003?

Probably already answered, but just put it in 2000 format, that way it's
usable to both versions.

Drew

-----Original Message-----
From: Lembit Soobik [mailto:lembit.dbamail at t-online.de]
Sent: Saturday, November 11, 2006 12:23 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: [AccessD] XP-mde on A2003?

Hi everyone,
I have been asked to write an Access db for a friend.
I have Access-XP (2002) on my machine
he has Access 2003

can he run an mde from me on his machine?

thank you
Lembit

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From rl_stewart at highstream.net  Tue Nov 14 10:32:25 2006
From: rl_stewart at highstream.net (Robert L. Stewart)
Date: Tue, 14 Nov 2006 10:32:25 -0600
Subject: [AccessD] XP-mde on A2003?
In-Reply-To: <mailman.14025.1163521322.17650.accessd@databaseadvisors.co
 m>
References: <mailman.14025.1163521322.17650.accessd@databaseadvisors.com>
Message-ID: <200611141636.kAEGaAq01765@databaseadvisors.com>

Lembit,

The simple answer is yes, he can run it.

Robert

At 10:22 AM 11/14/2006, you wrote:
>From: Lembit Soobik [mailto:lembit.dbamail at t-online.de]
>Sent: Saturday, November 11, 2006 12:23 PM
>To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
>Subject: [AccessD] XP-mde on A2003?
>
>Hi everyone,
>I have been asked to write an Access db for a friend.
>I have Access-XP (2002) on my machine
>he has Access 2003
>
>can he run an mde from me on his machine?
>
>thank you
>Lembit




From accessd at shaw.ca  Tue Nov 14 10:43:39 2006
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Tue, 14 Nov 2006 08:43:39 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] ATA airport list for the DBA list
In-Reply-To: <9C382E065F54AE48BC3AA7925DCBB01C04ABAE3C@karta-exc-int.Karta.com>
Message-ID: <0J8Q00IBMBQLNHR3@l-daemon>

Hi Jim:

According to what I read, movement on a graphic should be from left to right
as this is sort-of natural to the Unicode language reading people. I was
actually hoping that Adobe Photoshop would automatically flip the letters.

Jim

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim Hewson
Sent: Tuesday, November 14, 2006 6:47 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] ATA airport list for the DBA list

It looks fine to me except the Airplane picture is backwards.
The plane is taking off to the right and should be taking off to the left.
The lettering on the aircraft is backwards.

Jim 
jhewson at karta.com
 
-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gustav Brock
Sent: Tuesday, November 14, 2006 8:42 AM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: Re: [AccessD] ATA airport list for the DBA list

Hi Susan

My browser mirrors the airplane left-right ...

>>> artful at rogers.com 14-11-2006 15:11:17 >>>
I'm running FF and not seeing anything weird. Looks just fine, and perhaps
fancy, to me. 

Arthur

----- Original Message ----
From: Jim Lawrence <accessd at shaw.ca>
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Tuesday, November 14, 2006 12:03:37 AM
Subject: Re: [AccessD] ATA airport list for the DBA list

Hi Susan:

I have run FF and IE and am not sure what you are seeing... could you send
me a picture of the page your computer produces.

Thanks
Jim 

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com 
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Susan Harkins
Sent: Monday, November 13, 2006 7:30 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: Re: [AccessD] ATA airport list for the DBA list

Thanks Jim, but what's the big white overlay block just above the airplane?
Is something supposed to be there? 

Susan H. 

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From ssharkins at setel.com  Tue Nov 14 11:15:37 2006
From: ssharkins at setel.com (Susan Harkins)
Date: Tue, 14 Nov 2006 12:15:37 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] ATA airport list for the DBA list
In-Reply-To: <s559e401.073@cactus.dk>
Message-ID: <002101c70810$87dfd280$f1bc2ad1@SUSANONE>

I see one plane. Above it and under the page title, there's a rectangular
white box. The only reason I can tell is because it blocks the gray border. 

Susan H. 

My browser mirrors the airplane left-right ...

>>> artful at rogers.com 14-11-2006 15:11:17 >>>
I'm running FF and not seeing anything weird. Looks just fine, and perhaps
fancy, to me. 




From bchacc at san.rr.com  Tue Nov 14 11:46:51 2006
From: bchacc at san.rr.com (Beach Access Software)
Date: Tue, 14 Nov 2006 09:46:51 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] FW: Partition Function
Message-ID: <007901c70814$de0f20d0$6a01a8c0@HAL9005>

Dear List:

 

FYI.  From another developer.

 

Rocky

 

 

  _____  

From: joe anderson [mailto:jka at alldatacorp.com] 
Sent: Monday, November 13, 2006 9:55 AM
To: Subject: Partition Function

 

Well ... here is a VBA function that I've never seen in 14 years!!  Looks
like it could be pretty useful!!! It's not even in Getz's book ... at least
not in the index at the back!

 

I found it in a cool little book Titled "Fixing Access Annyoances' ... a$20
book that has already paid for itself!  By .. Phil Mitchell and Evan
Callahan.

 

jka


" :-1"

" 0: 4"

" 95: 99"

" 100: "


20

199

10

" : 19"

" 20: 29"

" 190: 199"

" 200: "


100

1010

20

" : 99"

" 100: 119"

" 1000: 1010"

" 1011: "

 

In the table shown above, the third line shows the result when start and
stop define a set of numbers that can't be evenly divided by interval. The
last range extends to stop (11 numbers) even though interval is 20.

If necessary, Partition returns a range with enough leading spaces so that
there are the same number of characters to the left and right of the colon
as there are characters in stop, plus one. This ensures that if you use
Partition with other numbers, the resulting text will be handled properly
during any subsequent sort operation.

If interval is 1, the range is number:number, regardless of the start and
stop arguments. For example, if interval is 1, number is 100 and stop is
1000, Partition returns " 100: 100".

If any of the parts is Null <javascript:hhobj_5.Click()> , Partition returns
a Null.


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From bchacc at san.rr.com  Tue Nov 14 12:12:50 2006
From: bchacc at san.rr.com (Beach Access Software)
Date: Tue, 14 Nov 2006 10:12:50 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] FW: Partition Function
In-Reply-To: <007901c70814$de0f20d0$6a01a8c0@HAL9005>
Message-ID: <008101c70818$7f84dec0$6a01a8c0@HAL9005>

Well, that didn't forward very well.  Here's a link to the MSDN page
describing it:

http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/default.asp?url=/library/en-us/vbenlr98/ht
ml/vafctpartition.asp


Rocky


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Beach Access
Software
Sent: Tuesday, November 14, 2006 9:47 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] FW: Partition Function

Dear List:

 

FYI.  From another developer.

 

Rocky

 

 

  _____  

From: joe anderson [mailto:jka at alldatacorp.com] 
Sent: Monday, November 13, 2006 9:55 AM
To: Subject: Partition Function

 

Well ... here is a VBA function that I've never seen in 14 years!!  Looks
like it could be pretty useful!!! It's not even in Getz's book ... at least
not in the index at the back!

 

I found it in a cool little book Titled "Fixing Access Annyoances' ... a$20
book that has already paid for itself!  By .. Phil Mitchell and Evan
Callahan.

 

jka


" :-1"

" 0: 4"

" 95: 99"

" 100: "


20

199

10

" : 19"

" 20: 29"

" 190: 199"

" 200: "


100

1010

20

" : 99"

" 100: 119"

" 1000: 1010"

" 1011: "

 

In the table shown above, the third line shows the result when start and
stop define a set of numbers that can't be evenly divided by interval. The
last range extends to stop (11 numbers) even though interval is 20.

If necessary, Partition returns a range with enough leading spaces so that
there are the same number of characters to the left and right of the colon
as there are characters in stop, plus one. This ensures that if you use
Partition with other numbers, the resulting text will be handled properly
during any subsequent sort operation.

If interval is 1, the range is number:number, regardless of the start and
stop arguments. For example, if interval is 1, number is 100 and stop is
1000, Partition returns " 100: 100".

If any of the parts is Null <javascript:hhobj_5.Click()> , Partition returns
a Null.


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From lembit.dbamail at t-online.de  Tue Nov 14 12:19:29 2006
From: lembit.dbamail at t-online.de (Lembit Soobik)
Date: Tue, 14 Nov 2006 19:19:29 +0100
Subject: [AccessD] XP-mde on A2003?
References: <mailman.14025.1163521322.17650.accessd@databaseadvisors.com>
	<200611141636.kAEGaAq01765@databaseadvisors.com>
Message-ID: <001a01c70819$6d7187f0$1800a8c0@s1800>

Thanks everyone for answering.
I have made a little A2002 MDE and sent him.
will let you all know.

Lembit

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From: "Robert L. Stewart" <rl_stewart at highstream.net>
To: <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Cc: <lembit.dbamail at t-online.de>
Sent: Tuesday, November 14, 2006 5:32 PM
Subject: Re: [AccessD] XP-mde on A2003?


> Lembit,
> 
> The simple answer is yes, he can run it.
> 
> Robert
> 
> At 10:22 AM 11/14/2006, you wrote:
>>From: Lembit Soobik [mailto:lembit.dbamail at t-online.de]
>>Sent: Saturday, November 11, 2006 12:23 PM
>>To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
>>Subject: [AccessD] XP-mde on A2003?
>>
>>Hi everyone,
>>I have been asked to write an Access db for a friend.
>>I have Access-XP (2002) on my machine
>>he has Access 2003
>>
>>can he run an mde from me on his machine?
>>
>>thank you
>>Lembit
> 
> 
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From artful at rogers.com  Tue Nov 14 12:20:41 2006
From: artful at rogers.com (artful at rogers.com)
Date: Tue, 14 Nov 2006 10:20:41 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [AccessD] Useful Lists
Message-ID: <20061114182042.41237.qmail@web88209.mail.re2.yahoo.com>

On the basis of the thread about airport lists, I proposed to Jim Lawrence that we accumulate a bunch of similar lists. As my father said when I joined the CDN Air Force at 17, "Don't volunteer for anything." O well. Jim has invited me to spearhead the acquisition of said lists, and I have accepted the assignment. 

So, to all of you listers, three questions:

1. What lists do you possess that you think would be useful to your fellow AccessD/dba-SQL listers?
2. What lists do you lack that you desire?

(I couldn't resist the old programmer's joke. There are three types of programmers -- those who can count and those who can't.)

Chances are that more than one of you may volunteer to contribute similar or identical lists. The latter is easy to deal with. The former is a little tougher, since it might require UNIONing several lists, but that's ok.

I have one list ready to go, which is the list of words corresponding to letters that travel agents use to spell names. I think it is identical to the similar list from the military, but perhaps not. (In case you don't know what I mean, Able Baker Charlie etc.)

I also have another list of cities within North America, and states and provinces to correspond. It is not ready to go, there are some duplicates, but I could prune the dupes. The list consists only of those cities into which the company I was formerly associated with sold products, but it numbers about 5,000 cities, give or take 3. Far from exhaustive, but a good start, and similar lists could easily be UNIONed. That leaves out all the listers uninterested in cities in North America, but listers residing elsewhere might be able to contribute more cities. On this one, there is a difficulty. Within North America, there are states and provinces. In Switzerland, there are cantons.

On this subject, I have just done some searches in dictionary.com and come up with some hilarious definitions:

City -- an important town
Town -- a large village
Village -- a small community or group of houses in a rural area, larger than a
hamlet and usually smaller than a town, and sometimes (as in parts of
the U.S.) incorporated as a municipality.
Hamlet -- British. a village without a church of its own, belonging to the parish of another village or town.
County (the richest by far) --
1.the largest administrative division of a U.S. state: Miami, Florida, is in Dade County.  

2.one of the chief administrative divisions of a country or state, as in Great Britain and Ireland. 

3.one of the larger divisions for purposes of local administration, as in Canada and New Zealand. 

4.the territory of a county, esp. its rural areas, as in: "We farmed out in the county before moving to town.".  

5.the inhabitants of a county, as in, "It was supposed to be a secret, but you told the whole county.".  

6.the domain of a count or earl. 


All these years I have been under the (clearly false) impression that precise population-numbers defined these terms. Apparently I have wrong, lo these decades. I have just taken a local poll (only 4 people) and the agreement here is that a city is 100,000 people or more; a town is 999,999 people or fewer; a village is 2,000 people or fewer; a hamlet is 500 people or fewer. We four Canadians readily agreed on these numbers, but that might be something we picked up in school that has no relation to the larger world.

Arthur



From markamatte at hotmail.com  Tue Nov 14 12:50:01 2006
From: markamatte at hotmail.com (Mark A Matte)
Date: Tue, 14 Nov 2006 18:50:01 +0000
Subject: [AccessD] FW: Partition Function
Message-ID: <BAY127-F351E899F5BBDD87D54EC77D2EB0@phx.gbl>

Thanks Rocky...

I do a lot of age grouping on age of cases.  This beats the heck out of the 
convoluted IIF statements I've been using.

Thanks,

Mark A. Matte

>From: "Beach Access Software" <bchacc at san.rr.com>
>Reply-To: Access Developers discussion and problem 
>solving<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
>To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem 
>solving'"<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
>Subject: Re: [AccessD] FW: Partition Function
>Date: Tue, 14 Nov 2006 10:12:50 -0800
>
>Well, that didn't forward very well.  Here's a link to the MSDN page
>describing it:
>
>http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/default.asp?url=/library/en-us/vbenlr98/ht
>ml/vafctpartition.asp
>
>
>Rocky
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Beach Access
>Software
>Sent: Tuesday, November 14, 2006 9:47 AM
>To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
>Subject: [AccessD] FW: Partition Function
>
>Dear List:
>
>
>
>FYI.  From another developer.
>
>
>
>Rocky
>
>
>
>
>
>   _____
>
>From: joe anderson [mailto:jka at alldatacorp.com]
>Sent: Monday, November 13, 2006 9:55 AM
>To: Subject: Partition Function
>
>
>
>Well ... here is a VBA function that I've never seen in 14 years!!  Looks
>like it could be pretty useful!!! It's not even in Getz's book ... at least
>not in the index at the back!
>
>
>
>I found it in a cool little book Titled "Fixing Access Annyoances' ... a$20
>book that has already paid for itself!  By .. Phil Mitchell and Evan
>Callahan.
>
>
>
>jka
>
>
>" :-1"
>
>" 0: 4"
>
>" 95: 99"
>
>" 100: "
>
>
>20
>
>199
>
>10
>
>" : 19"
>
>" 20: 29"
>
>" 190: 199"
>
>" 200: "
>
>
>100
>
>1010
>
>20
>
>" : 99"
>
>" 100: 119"
>
>" 1000: 1010"
>
>" 1011: "
>
>
>
>In the table shown above, the third line shows the result when start and
>stop define a set of numbers that can't be evenly divided by interval. The
>last range extends to stop (11 numbers) even though interval is 20.
>
>If necessary, Partition returns a range with enough leading spaces so that
>there are the same number of characters to the left and right of the colon
>as there are characters in stop, plus one. This ensures that if you use
>Partition with other numbers, the resulting text will be handled properly
>during any subsequent sort operation.
>
>If interval is 1, the range is number:number, regardless of the start and
>stop arguments. For example, if interval is 1, number is 100 and stop is
>1000, Partition returns " 100: 100".
>
>If any of the parts is Null <javascript:hhobj_5.Click()> , Partition 
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From markamatte at hotmail.com  Tue Nov 14 12:57:46 2006
From: markamatte at hotmail.com (Mark A Matte)
Date: Tue, 14 Nov 2006 18:57:46 +0000
Subject: [AccessD] Useful Lists
Message-ID: <BAY127-F20191F5945F8FBB375439CD2EB0@phx.gbl>

Arthur,

"I think it is identical to the similar
list from the military, but perhaps not. (In case you don't know what I 
mean,
Able Baker Charlie etc.)
"
Refers to the phonetic alphabet.  US military version would be "Alpha, 
Bravo,Charlie"

Of all the lists you mentioned...its probably the only one I could 
contribute to.  I know that different occupations and english speaking 
peoples use a different variation of the list.

I'd be glad to help any way I can.

Thanks,

Mark A. Matte

>From: artful at rogers.com
>Reply-To: Access Developers discussion and problem 
>solving<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
>To: "AccessD at databaseadvisors. com" <AccessD at databaseadvisors.com>,   
>dba-SQLServer <dba-SQLServer at databaseadvisors.com>
>Subject: [AccessD] Useful Lists
>Date: Tue, 14 Nov 2006 10:20:41 -0800 (PST)
>
>On the basis of the thread about airport lists, I proposed to Jim Lawrence 
>that we accumulate a bunch of similar lists. As my father said when I 
>joined the CDN Air Force at 17, "Don't volunteer for anything." O well. Jim 
>has invited me to spearhead the acquisition of said lists, and I have 
>accepted the assignment.
>
>So, to all of you listers, three questions:
>
>1. What lists do you possess that you think would be useful to your fellow 
>AccessD/dba-SQL listers?
>2. What lists do you lack that you desire?
>
>(I couldn't resist the old programmer's joke. There are three types of 
>programmers -- those who can count and those who can't.)
>
>Chances are that more than one of you may volunteer to contribute similar 
>or identical lists. The latter is easy to deal with. The former is a little 
>tougher, since it might require UNIONing several lists, but that's ok.
>
>I have one list ready to go, which is the list of words corresponding to 
>letters that travel agents use to spell names. I think it is identical to 
>the similar list from the military, but perhaps not. (In case you don't 
>know what I mean, Able Baker Charlie etc.)
>
>I also have another list of cities within North America, and states and 
>provinces to correspond. It is not ready to go, there are some duplicates, 
>but I could prune the dupes. The list consists only of those cities into 
>which the company I was formerly associated with sold products, but it 
>numbers about 5,000 cities, give or take 3. Far from exhaustive, but a good 
>start, and similar lists could easily be UNIONed. That leaves out all the 
>listers uninterested in cities in North America, but listers residing 
>elsewhere might be able to contribute more cities. On this one, there is a 
>difficulty. Within North America, there are states and provinces. In 
>Switzerland, there are cantons.
>
>On this subject, I have just done some searches in dictionary.com and come 
>up with some hilarious definitions:
>
>City -- an important town
>Town -- a large village
>Village -- a small community or group of houses in a rural area, larger 
>than a
>hamlet and usually smaller than a town, and sometimes (as in parts of
>the U.S.) incorporated as a municipality.
>Hamlet -- British. a village without a church of its own, belonging to the 
>parish of another village or town.
>County (the richest by far) --
>1.the largest administrative division of a U.S. state: Miami, Florida, is 
>in Dade County.
>
>2.one of the chief administrative divisions of a country or state, as in 
>Great Britain and Ireland.
>
>3.one of the larger divisions for purposes of local administration, as in 
>Canada and New Zealand.
>
>4.the territory of a county, esp. its rural areas, as in: "We farmed out in 
>the county before moving to town.".
>
>5.the inhabitants of a county, as in, "It was supposed to be a secret, but 
>you told the whole county.".
>
>6.the domain of a count or earl.
>
>
>All these years I have been under the (clearly false) impression that 
>precise population-numbers defined these terms. Apparently I have wrong, lo 
>these decades. I have just taken a local poll (only 4 people) and the 
>agreement here is that a city is 100,000 people or more; a town is 999,999 
>people or fewer; a village is 2,000 people or fewer; a hamlet is 500 people 
>or fewer. We four Canadians readily agreed on these numbers, but that might 
>be something we picked up in school that has no relation to the larger 
>world.
>
>Arthur
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From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com  Tue Nov 14 12:58:53 2006
From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (JWColby)
Date: Tue, 14 Nov 2006 13:58:53 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] XP-mde on A2003?
In-Reply-To: <F55048AF7E974F429BB24597D7355EEA1783D0@INFOSERVER04.infostat.local>
Message-ID: <000d01c7081e$ee8eb740$657aa8c0@m6805>

Ohhhhhh.  Never mind! 


John W. Colby
Colby Consulting
www.ColbyConsulting.com

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Charlotte Foust
Sent: Tuesday, November 14, 2006 11:21 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] XP-mde on A2003?

I realize that, but with one machine running XP and one running 2003, there
doesn't appear to be an A2K in the mix to create that pesky mde.

Charlotte Foust 

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of JWColby
Sent: Monday, November 13, 2006 5:41 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: Re: [AccessD] XP-mde on A2003?

IIRC He never actually said he needed 2003 specific stuff, only that it
needed to run on 2003.  Thus do the entire thing in 2000.  Make the MDE in
20000.  Then run it in 2000, 2002 or 2003 as required.

John W. Colby
Colby Consulting
www.ColbyConsulting.com

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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Charlotte Foust
Sent: Monday, November 13, 2006 7:30 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] XP-mde on A2003?

But you can't create a 2000 format mde from either XP or 2003, only from
2000.

Charlotte Foust 

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of DWUTKA at marlow.com
Sent: Monday, November 13, 2006 4:16 PM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: Re: [AccessD] XP-mde on A2003?

Probably already answered, but just put it in 2000 format, that way it's
usable to both versions.

Drew

-----Original Message-----
From: Lembit Soobik [mailto:lembit.dbamail at t-online.de]
Sent: Saturday, November 11, 2006 12:23 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: [AccessD] XP-mde on A2003?

Hi everyone,
I have been asked to write an Access db for a friend.
I have Access-XP (2002) on my machine
he has Access 2003

can he run an mde from me on his machine?

thank you
Lembit

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From artful at rogers.com  Tue Nov 14 13:44:58 2006
From: artful at rogers.com (artful at rogers.com)
Date: Tue, 14 Nov 2006 11:44:58 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [AccessD] Useful Lists
Message-ID: <20061114194458.44797.qmail@web88203.mail.re2.yahoo.com>

So help! Send me your list. I will rationalize it with the travel agency list, perhaps using columns to designate the lists. After all, we only have 26 letters. Shamil and various others could of course contribute additional alphabets. This obviously doesn't make sense in the various dialects of China, for example. Incidentally, I have heard or read that there are precisely 100 surnames in China. I find this difficult to believe, but it was explained to me as follows: Chang, Chong, Chuang, etc. all refer to the same ideogram, and the differences relate to dialects rather than their single symbolic reference.

I have no idea whether this is correct. But it wouldn't strike me as remarkable if it were. Mind you, the decision about exactly 100 names would strike me as remarkable. If we have any Mandarin/Cantonese/Mongolian/etc. people, it would be useful to receive your input on this subject. A long time ago I was in Japan and used a computer that did translations from a phonetic language to the Japanese characters. I forget the names, but the basic idea was that one could type in "katana" or "shodan" or "wazashi", and this would translate into the appropriate ideograms, occasionally resulting in a listbox of similar words, along with their symbols. This was a long time ago, and I assume that the software has advanced vastly from there, but I haven't been back so I don't know.

Returning to airport codes, I think that the world uses the English list, and that pilots use English as the lingua franca, but I'm not sure about that. Listers outside North America, please assist this ignorant Canadian.

Arthur

----- Original Message ----
From: Mark A Matte <markamatte at hotmail.com>
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Sent: Tuesday, November 14, 2006 1:57:46 PM
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Useful Lists

Arthur,

"I think it is identical to the similar
list from the military, but perhaps not. (In case you don't know what I 
mean,
Able Baker Charlie etc.)
"
Refers to the phonetic alphabet.  US military version would be "Alpha, 
Bravo,Charlie"

Of all the lists you mentioned...its probably the only one I could 
contribute to.  I know that different occupations and english speaking 
peoples use a different variation of the list.

I'd be glad to help any way I can.

Thanks,

Mark A. Matte

>From: artful at rogers.com
>Reply-To: Access Developers discussion and problem 
>solving<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
>To: "AccessD at databaseadvisors. com" <AccessD at databaseadvisors.com>,   
>dba-SQLServer <dba-SQLServer at databaseadvisors.com>
>Subject: [AccessD] Useful Lists
>Date: Tue, 14 Nov 2006 10:20:41 -0800 (PST)
>
>On the basis of the thread about airport lists, I proposed to Jim Lawrence 
>that we accumulate a bunch of similar lists. As my father said when I 
>joined the CDN Air Force at 17, "Don't volunteer for anything." O well. Jim 
>has invited me to spearhead the acquisition of said lists, and I have 
>accepted the assignment.
>
>So, to all of you listers, three questions:
>
>1. What lists do you possess that you think would be useful to your fellow 
>AccessD/dba-SQL listers?
>2. What lists do you lack that you desire?
>
>(I couldn't resist the old programmer's joke. There are three types of 
>programmers -- those who can count and those who can't.)
>
>Chances are that more than one of you may volunteer to contribute similar 
>or identical lists. The latter is easy to deal with. The former is a little 
>tougher, since it might require UNIONing several lists, but that's ok.
>
>I have one list ready to go, which is the list of words corresponding to 
>letters that travel agents use to spell names. I think it is identical to 
>the similar list from the military, but perhaps not. (In case you don't 
>know what I mean, Able Baker Charlie etc.)
>
>I also have another list of cities within North America, and states and 
>provinces to correspond. It is not ready to go, there are some duplicates, 
>but I could prune the dupes. The list consists only of those cities into 
>which the company I was formerly associated with sold products, but it 
>numbers about 5,000 cities, give or take 3. Far from exhaustive, but a good 
>start, and similar lists could easily be UNIONed. That leaves out all the 
>listers uninterested in cities in North America, but listers residing 
>elsewhere might be able to contribute more cities. On this one, there is a 
>difficulty. Within North America, there are states and provinces. In 
>Switzerland, there are cantons.
>
>On this subject, I have just done some searches in dictionary.com and come 
>up with some hilarious definitions:
>
>City -- an important town
>Town -- a large village
>Village -- a small community or group of houses in a rural area, larger 
>than a
>hamlet and usually smaller than a town, and sometimes (as in parts of
>the U.S.) incorporated as a municipality.
>Hamlet -- British. a village without a church of its own, belonging to the 
>parish of another village or town.
>County (the richest by far) --
>1.the largest administrative division of a U.S. state: Miami, Florida, is 
>in Dade County.
>
>2.one of the chief administrative divisions of a country or state, as in 
>Great Britain and Ireland.
>
>3.one of the larger divisions for purposes of local administration, as in 
>Canada and New Zealand.
>
>4.the territory of a county, esp. its rural areas, as in: "We farmed out in 
>the county before moving to town.".
>
>5.the inhabitants of a county, as in, "It was supposed to be a secret, but 
>you told the whole county.".
>
>6.the domain of a count or earl.
>
>
>All these years I have been under the (clearly false) impression that 
>precise population-numbers defined these terms. Apparently I have wrong, lo 
>these decades. I have just taken a local poll (only 4 people) and the 
>agreement here is that a city is 100,000 people or more; a town is 999,999 
>people or fewer; a village is 2,000 people or fewer; a hamlet is 500 people 
>or fewer. We four Canadians readily agreed on these numbers, but that might 
>be something we picked up in school that has no relation to the larger 
>world.
>
>Arthur
>
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From shamil at users.mns.ru  Tue Nov 14 14:39:51 2006
From: shamil at users.mns.ru (Shamil Salakhetdinov)
Date: Tue, 14 Nov 2006 23:39:51 +0300
Subject: [AccessD] Useful Lists
In-Reply-To: <20061114194458.44797.qmail@web88203.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <000401c7082d$08e40420$6401a8c0@nant>

<<<
I think that the world uses the English list, and that pilots use English as
the lingua franca, but I'm not sure about that.
>>>
Arthur,

Russian pilots do use English when they fly abroad.
I think you're correct when you're saying than English is a lingua franca
for all the pilots who work on international flights.

Your list as far as I see is IATA airport codes' list (this is what I was
looking for). It's described here -
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IATA_airport_code

The airport codes from this list are used in Russia and internationally as
far as I have seen when I was abroad.

There is also ICAO airport codes' list AFAIS
(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ICAO_airport_code)


--
Shamil
 

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of artful at rogers.com
Sent: Tuesday, November 14, 2006 10:45 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Useful Lists

So help! Send me your list. I will rationalize it with the travel agency
list, perhaps using columns to designate the lists. After all, we only have
26 letters. Shamil and various others could of course contribute additional
alphabets. This obviously doesn't make sense in the various dialects of
China, for example. Incidentally, I have heard or read that there are
precisely 100 surnames in China. I find this difficult to believe, but it
was explained to me as follows: Chang, Chong, Chuang, etc. all refer to the
same ideogram, and the differences relate to dialects rather than their
single symbolic reference.

I have no idea whether this is correct. But it wouldn't strike me as
remarkable if it were. Mind you, the decision about exactly 100 names would
strike me as remarkable. If we have any Mandarin/Cantonese/Mongolian/etc.
people, it would be useful to receive your input on this subject. A long
time ago I was in Japan and used a computer that did translations from a
phonetic language to the Japanese characters. I forget the names, but the
basic idea was that one could type in "katana" or "shodan" or "wazashi", and
this would translate into the appropriate ideograms, occasionally resulting
in a listbox of similar words, along with their symbols. This was a long
time ago, and I assume that the software has advanced vastly from there, but
I haven't been back so I don't know.

Returning to airport codes, I think that the world uses the English list,
and that pilots use English as the lingua franca, but I'm not sure about
that. Listers outside North America, please assist this ignorant Canadian.

Arthur

----- Original Message ----
From: Mark A Matte <markamatte at hotmail.com>
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Sent: Tuesday, November 14, 2006 1:57:46 PM
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Useful Lists

Arthur,

"I think it is identical to the similar
list from the military, but perhaps not. (In case you don't know what I 
mean,
Able Baker Charlie etc.)
"
Refers to the phonetic alphabet.  US military version would be "Alpha, 
Bravo,Charlie"

Of all the lists you mentioned...its probably the only one I could 
contribute to.  I know that different occupations and english speaking 
peoples use a different variation of the list.

I'd be glad to help any way I can.

Thanks,

Mark A. Matte

<<< tail skipped >>>



From artful at rogers.com  Tue Nov 14 14:46:55 2006
From: artful at rogers.com (artful at rogers.com)
Date: Tue, 14 Nov 2006 12:46:55 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [AccessD] Useful Lists
Message-ID: <20061114204655.54503.qmail@web88214.mail.re2.yahoo.com>

Glad to read your confirmation. Perhaps I ought to expand this table to include columns for the various coding systems.

Arthur

----- Original Message ----
From: Shamil Salakhetdinov <shamil at users.mns.ru>
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Tuesday, November 14, 2006 3:39:51 PM
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Useful Lists

<<<
I think that the world uses the English list, and that pilots use English as
the lingua franca, but I'm not sure about that.
>>>
Arthur,

Russian pilots do use English when they fly abroad.
I think you're correct when you're saying than English is a lingua franca
for all the pilots who work on international flights.

Your list as far as I see is IATA airport codes' list (this is what I was
looking for). It's described here -
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IATA_airport_code

The airport codes from this list are used in Russia and internationally as
far as I have seen when I was abroad.

There is also ICAO airport codes' list AFAIS
(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ICAO_airport_code)


--
Shamil
 

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of artful at rogers.com
Sent: Tuesday, November 14, 2006 10:45 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Useful Lists

So help! Send me your list. I will rationalize it with the travel agency
list, perhaps using columns to designate the lists. After all, we only have
26 letters. Shamil and various others could of course contribute additional
alphabets. This obviously doesn't make sense in the various dialects of
China, for example. Incidentally, I have heard or read that there are
precisely 100 surnames in China. I find this difficult to believe, but it
was explained to me as follows: Chang, Chong, Chuang, etc. all refer to the
same ideogram, and the differences relate to dialects rather than their
single symbolic reference.

I have no idea whether this is correct. But it wouldn't strike me as
remarkable if it were. Mind you, the decision about exactly 100 names would
strike me as remarkable. If we have any Mandarin/Cantonese/Mongolian/etc.
people, it would be useful to receive your input on this subject. A long
time ago I was in Japan and used a computer that did translations from a
phonetic language to the Japanese characters. I forget the names, but the
basic idea was that one could type in "katana" or "shodan" or "wazashi", and
this would translate into the appropriate ideograms, occasionally resulting
in a listbox of similar words, along with their symbols. This was a long
time ago, and I assume that the software has advanced vastly from there, but
I haven't been back so I don't know.

Returning to airport codes, I think that the world uses the English list,
and that pilots use English as the lingua franca, but I'm not sure about
that. Listers outside North America, please assist this ignorant Canadian.

Arthur

----- Original Message ----
From: Mark A Matte <markamatte at hotmail.com>
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Sent: Tuesday, November 14, 2006 1:57:46 PM
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Useful Lists

Arthur,

"I think it is identical to the similar
list from the military, but perhaps not. (In case you don't know what I 
mean,
Able Baker Charlie etc.)
"
Refers to the phonetic alphabet.  US military version would be "Alpha, 
Bravo,Charlie"

Of all the lists you mentioned...its probably the only one I could 
contribute to.  I know that different occupations and english speaking 
peoples use a different variation of the list.

I'd be glad to help any way I can.

Thanks,

Mark A. Matte

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From stuart at lexacorp.com.pg  Tue Nov 14 15:01:07 2006
From: stuart at lexacorp.com.pg (Stuart McLachlan)
Date: Wed, 15 Nov 2006 07:01:07 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] FW: Partition Function
In-Reply-To: <008101c70818$7f84dec0$6a01a8c0@HAL9005>
References: <007901c70814$de0f20d0$6a01a8c0@HAL9005>,
	<008101c70818$7f84dec0$6a01a8c0@HAL9005>
Message-ID: <455A2E93.5324.1328D9F7@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>

On 14 Nov 2006 at 10:12, Beach Access Software wrote:

> Well, that didn't forward very well.  Here's a link to the MSDN page
> describing it:
> 
> http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/default.asp?url=/library/en-us/vbenlr98/ht
> ml/vafctpartition.asp

Or just look it up the VBA Help in Access.

You'll find it under Contents | Functions | M-P | Partition

It's well worth browsing through Contents | Functions periodically.  There 
a many useful but little used functions in VBA.

-- 
Stuart




From markamatte at hotmail.com  Tue Nov 14 15:02:04 2006
From: markamatte at hotmail.com (Mark A Matte)
Date: Tue, 14 Nov 2006 21:02:04 +0000
Subject: [AccessD] Useful Lists
In-Reply-To: <20061114194458.44797.qmail@web88203.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <BAY127-F163D414A318865E5BA5A37D2EB0@phx.gbl>



Arthur,

I searched for a list that I could modify/verify easily and ran into a 
number of interesting things.  The US military changed the phonetic alphabet 
a number of times.  So I have put together a spreadsheet with the following 
that I will send off list:

Morse code for letters and numbers.
US phonetic Alphabet used in 1913,1927,1938,WWII, and 1957-Present
Pronunciation for each of the currently used

Feel free to use/modify however necessary.  If you have any 
questions...please let me know.

Thanks,

Mark A. Matte


>From: artful at rogers.com
>Reply-To: Access Developers discussion and problem 
>solving<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
>To: Access Developers discussion and problem 
>solving<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
>Subject: Re: [AccessD] Useful Lists
>Date: Tue, 14 Nov 2006 11:44:58 -0800 (PST)
>
>So help! Send me your list. I will rationalize it with the travel agency 
>list, perhaps using columns to designate the lists. After all, we only have 
>26 letters. Shamil and various others could of course contribute additional 
>alphabets. This obviously doesn't make sense in the various dialects of 
>China, for example. Incidentally, I have heard or read that there are 
>precisely 100 surnames in China. I find this difficult to believe, but it 
>was explained to me as follows: Chang, Chong, Chuang, etc. all refer to the 
>same ideogram, and the differences relate to dialects rather than their 
>single symbolic reference.
>
>I have no idea whether this is correct. But it wouldn't strike me as 
>remarkable if it were. Mind you, the decision about exactly 100 names would 
>strike me as remarkable. If we have any Mandarin/Cantonese/Mongolian/etc. 
>people, it would be useful to receive your input on this subject. A long 
>time ago I was in Japan and used a computer that did translations from a 
>phonetic language to the Japanese characters. I forget the names, but the 
>basic idea was that one could type in "katana" or "shodan" or "wazashi", 
>and this would translate into the appropriate ideograms, occasionally 
>resulting in a listbox of similar words, along with their symbols. This was 
>a long time ago, and I assume that the software has advanced vastly from 
>there, but I haven't been back so I don't know.
>
>Returning to airport codes, I think that the world uses the English list, 
>and that pilots use English as the lingua franca, but I'm not sure about 
>that. Listers outside North America, please assist this ignorant Canadian.
>
>Arthur
>
>----- Original Message ----
>From: Mark A Matte <markamatte at hotmail.com>
>To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
>Sent: Tuesday, November 14, 2006 1:57:46 PM
>Subject: Re: [AccessD] Useful Lists
>
>Arthur,
>
>"I think it is identical to the similar
>list from the military, but perhaps not. (In case you don't know what I
>mean,
>Able Baker Charlie etc.)
>"
>Refers to the phonetic alphabet.  US military version would be "Alpha,
>Bravo,Charlie"
>
>Of all the lists you mentioned...its probably the only one I could
>contribute to.  I know that different occupations and english speaking
>peoples use a different variation of the list.
>
>I'd be glad to help any way I can.
>
>Thanks,
>
>Mark A. Matte
>
> >From: artful at rogers.com
> >Reply-To: Access Developers discussion and problem
> >solving<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
> >To: "AccessD at databaseadvisors. com" <AccessD at databaseadvisors.com>,
> >dba-SQLServer <dba-SQLServer at databaseadvisors.com>
> >Subject: [AccessD] Useful Lists
> >Date: Tue, 14 Nov 2006 10:20:41 -0800 (PST)
> >
> >On the basis of the thread about airport lists, I proposed to Jim 
>Lawrence
> >that we accumulate a bunch of similar lists. As my father said when I
> >joined the CDN Air Force at 17, "Don't volunteer for anything." O well. 
>Jim
> >has invited me to spearhead the acquisition of said lists, and I have
> >accepted the assignment.
> >
> >So, to all of you listers, three questions:
> >
> >1. What lists do you possess that you think would be useful to your 
>fellow
> >AccessD/dba-SQL listers?
> >2. What lists do you lack that you desire?
> >
> >(I couldn't resist the old programmer's joke. There are three types of
> >programmers -- those who can count and those who can't.)
> >
> >Chances are that more than one of you may volunteer to contribute similar
> >or identical lists. The latter is easy to deal with. The former is a 
>little
> >tougher, since it might require UNIONing several lists, but that's ok.
> >
> >I have one list ready to go, which is the list of words corresponding to
> >letters that travel agents use to spell names. I think it is identical to
> >the similar list from the military, but perhaps not. (In case you don't
> >know what I mean, Able Baker Charlie etc.)
> >
> >I also have another list of cities within North America, and states and
> >provinces to correspond. It is not ready to go, there are some 
>duplicates,
> >but I could prune the dupes. The list consists only of those cities into
> >which the company I was formerly associated with sold products, but it
> >numbers about 5,000 cities, give or take 3. Far from exhaustive, but a 
>good
> >start, and similar lists could easily be UNIONed. That leaves out all the
> >listers uninterested in cities in North America, but listers residing
> >elsewhere might be able to contribute more cities. On this one, there is 
>a
> >difficulty. Within North America, there are states and provinces. In
> >Switzerland, there are cantons.
> >
> >On this subject, I have just done some searches in dictionary.com and 
>come
> >up with some hilarious definitions:
> >
> >City -- an important town
> >Town -- a large village
> >Village -- a small community or group of houses in a rural area, larger
> >than a
> >hamlet and usually smaller than a town, and sometimes (as in parts of
> >the U.S.) incorporated as a municipality.
> >Hamlet -- British. a village without a church of its own, belonging to 
>the
> >parish of another village or town.
> >County (the richest by far) --
> >1.the largest administrative division of a U.S. state: Miami, Florida, is
> >in Dade County.
> >
> >2.one of the chief administrative divisions of a country or state, as in
> >Great Britain and Ireland.
> >
> >3.one of the larger divisions for purposes of local administration, as in
> >Canada and New Zealand.
> >
> >4.the territory of a county, esp. its rural areas, as in: "We farmed out 
>in
> >the county before moving to town.".
> >
> >5.the inhabitants of a county, as in, "It was supposed to be a secret, 
>but
> >you told the whole county.".
> >
> >6.the domain of a count or earl.
> >
> >
> >All these years I have been under the (clearly false) impression that
> >precise population-numbers defined these terms. Apparently I have wrong, 
>lo
> >these decades. I have just taken a local poll (only 4 people) and the
> >agreement here is that a city is 100,000 people or more; a town is 
>999,999
> >people or fewer; a village is 2,000 people or fewer; a hamlet is 500 
>people
> >or fewer. We four Canadians readily agreed on these numbers, but that 
>might
> >be something we picked up in school that has no relation to the larger
> >world.
> >
> >Arthur
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From Chester_Kaup at kindermorgan.com  Tue Nov 14 15:13:03 2006
From: Chester_Kaup at kindermorgan.com (Kaup, Chester)
Date: Tue, 14 Nov 2006 15:13:03 -0600
Subject: [AccessD] Carry Forward in a query
Message-ID: <F1DD538AE6BCE74EBE562DE51564D3220224699C@houexch1.kindermorgan.com>

I have a table of data that has a record about every 6 months. I would
like to generate a record for every month using the previous months data
until there is data for the current records month. I can do this in code
but had a coworker ask if it could be done in a query. I am not coming
up with an answer. Your thoughts please.

 

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Engineering Technician

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Office (432) 688-3797

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From stuart at lexacorp.com.pg  Tue Nov 14 15:15:39 2006
From: stuart at lexacorp.com.pg (Stuart McLachlan)
Date: Wed, 15 Nov 2006 07:15:39 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] Useful Lists
In-Reply-To: <20061114182042.41237.qmail@web88209.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
References: <20061114182042.41237.qmail@web88209.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <455A31FB.15816.13362605@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>

On 14 Nov 2006 at 10:20, artful at rogers.com wrote:

> All these years I have been under the (clearly false) impression that
> precise population-numbers defined these terms. Apparently I have wrong, lo
> these decades. I have just taken a local poll (only 4 people) and the
> agreement here is that a city is 100,000 people or more; a town is 999,999
> people or fewer; a village is 2,000 people or fewer; a hamlet is 500 people
> or fewer. We four Canadians readily agreed on these numbers, but that might
> be something we picked up in school that has no relation to the larger
> world.
> 

In the UK, a city  was originally a town with a cathedral. It is an actual 
status conferred on an urban area by the monarch.

I believe that in the US, individual states define their own cities in 
legislation.
-- 
Stuart




From Lambert.Heenan at AIG.com  Tue Nov 14 15:34:21 2006
From: Lambert.Heenan at AIG.com (Heenan, Lambert)
Date: Tue, 14 Nov 2006 16:34:21 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] FW: Partition Function
Message-ID: <34C8A2AB1EF3564CB0D64DB6AFFDD5C222DFAB@xlivmbx35.aig.com>

There's also the Switch function which allows you to group by ranges, like
this...

Data Range: Switch([SomeDataValue]>8,"a) > 8",[SomeDataValue]>=5,"b) >= 5
and <= 8",[SomeDataValue]>=2,"c) >= 2 and < 5",[SomeDataValue]<2,"d) < 2")

In effect  Switch is like "convoluted IIF statements", but without the
convolutions! :-) Note that the order of the various comparisons in the
statement is significant as Switch stops at the first condition that
evaluates to True.

An advantage over Partition is that you can define the groupings arbitrarily
instead of them being equal groups of size "interval".

Lambert

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Mark A Matte
Sent: Tuesday, November 14, 2006 1:50 PM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: Re: [AccessD] FW: Partition Function


Thanks Rocky...

I do a lot of age grouping on age of cases.  This beats the heck out of the 
convoluted IIF statements I've been using.

Thanks,

Mark A. Matte

>From: "Beach Access Software" <bchacc at san.rr.com>
>Reply-To: Access Developers discussion and problem
>solving<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
>To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem 
>solving'"<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
>Subject: Re: [AccessD] FW: Partition Function
>Date: Tue, 14 Nov 2006 10:12:50 -0800
>
>Well, that didn't forward very well.  Here's a link to the MSDN page 
>describing it:
>
>http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/default.asp?url=/library/en-us/vbenlr
>98/ht
>ml/vafctpartition.asp
>
>
>Rocky
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
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>[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Beach Access 
>Software
>Sent: Tuesday, November 14, 2006 9:47 AM
>To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
>Subject: [AccessD] FW: Partition Function
>
>Dear List:
>
>
>
>FYI.  From another developer.
>
>
>
>Rocky
>
>
>
>
>
>   _____
>
>From: joe anderson [mailto:jka at alldatacorp.com]
>Sent: Monday, November 13, 2006 9:55 AM
>To: Subject: Partition Function
>
>
>
>Well ... here is a VBA function that I've never seen in 14 years!!  
>Looks like it could be pretty useful!!! It's not even in Getz's book 
>... at least not in the index at the back!
>
>
>
>I found it in a cool little book Titled "Fixing Access Annyoances' ... 
>a$20 book that has already paid for itself!  By .. Phil Mitchell and 
>Evan Callahan.
>
>
>
>jka
>
>
>" :-1"
>
>" 0: 4"
>
>" 95: 99"
>
>" 100: "
>
>
>20
>
>199
>
>10
>
>" : 19"
>
>" 20: 29"
>
>" 190: 199"
>
>" 200: "
>
>
>100
>
>1010
>
>20
>
>" : 99"
>
>" 100: 119"
>
>" 1000: 1010"
>
>" 1011: "
>
>
>
>In the table shown above, the third line shows the result when start 
>and stop define a set of numbers that can't be evenly divided by 
>interval. The last range extends to stop (11 numbers) even though 
>interval is 20.
>
>If necessary, Partition returns a range with enough leading spaces so 
>that there are the same number of characters to the left and right of 
>the colon as there are characters in stop, plus one. This ensures that 
>if you use Partition with other numbers, the resulting text will be 
>handled properly during any subsequent sort operation.
>
>If interval is 1, the range is number:number, regardless of the start 
>and stop arguments. For example, if interval is 1, number is 100 and 
>stop is 1000, Partition returns " 100: 100".
>
>If any of the parts is Null <javascript:hhobj_5.Click()> , Partition
>returns
>a Null.
>
>
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From Jim.Hale at FleetPride.com  Tue Nov 14 15:59:10 2006
From: Jim.Hale at FleetPride.com (Hale, Jim)
Date: Tue, 14 Nov 2006 15:59:10 -0600
Subject: [AccessD] Carry Forward in a query
Message-ID: <6A6AA9DF57E4F046BDA1E273BDDB67727DE0FE@corp-es01.fleetpride.com>

If I understand what you want to do, I have done this with a non cartesian
join. I create a table with a one field record and  one record for each
date. In the query window I place this table and the table with the record
you want to duplicate WITHOUT ANY JOIN. the resulting data set produces one
record for each date. HTH
Jim Hale

-----Original Message-----
From: Kaup, Chester [mailto:Chester_Kaup at kindermorgan.com]
Sent: Tuesday, November 14, 2006 3:13 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: [AccessD] Carry Forward in a query


I have a table of data that has a record about every 6 months. I would
like to generate a record for every month using the previous months data
until there is data for the current records month. I can do this in code
but had a coworker ask if it could be done in a query. I am not coming
up with an answer. Your thoughts please.

 

Chester Kaup

Engineering Technician

Kinder Morgan CO2 Company, LLP

Office (432) 688-3797

FAX (432) 688-3799

 

 

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From artful at rogers.com  Tue Nov 14 16:02:45 2006
From: artful at rogers.com (artful at rogers.com)
Date: Tue, 14 Nov 2006 14:02:45 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [AccessD] Useful Lists
Message-ID: <20061114220245.81400.qmail@web88214.mail.re2.yahoo.com>

I think that on both points you hit the mark. I came from a suburb of Winnipeg, Manitoba, called St. Vital. There was a time when St. Vital became a city. I think it was population-based but I was a child back then so I could be way wrong. I will research this some more.

There is an oddity in Canada, private entities not part of the adjacent town, city or whatever. In Toronto, one is Wychwood Park, a private enclave that is responsible for paying its private garbage-gatherers, snow-shovellers, etc. It is surrounded by Toronto, but is somehow legally not part of Toronto. I can name several other enclaves with this status within Ontario. I don't know whether this status exists anywhere else in Canada, but I can name several places of this distinction in Ontario. Here, these places seem to be 100% white.

They may or may not correspond to the gated communities in the USA; in both cases they are inhabited by no one without large funds. Some American on the list might contribute an opinion on gated communities: are the city's police permitted to enter? The fire department? Any non-resident other than a Fedex driver? Any person of color other than the previous designations? Are there any gated communities reserved for blacks or Hispanics, or are they reserved for persons of pallor? Or, alternatively, am I woefully incorrect about this, and the line of demarcation is affluence not color. Just curious.

Arthur

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From: Stuart McLachlan <stuart at lexacorp.com.pg>
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Tuesday, November 14, 2006 4:15:39 PM
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Useful Lists

On 14 Nov 2006 at 10:20, artful at rogers.com wrote:

> All these years I have been under the (clearly false) impression that
> precise population-numbers defined these terms. Apparently I have wrong, lo
> these decades. I have just taken a local poll (only 4 people) and the
> agreement here is that a city is 100,000 people or more; a town is 999,999
> people or fewer; a village is 2,000 people or fewer; a hamlet is 500 people
> or fewer. We four Canadians readily agreed on these numbers, but that might
> be something we picked up in school that has no relation to the larger
> world.
> 

In the UK, a city  was originally a town with a cathedral. It is an actual 
status conferred on an urban area by the monarch.

I believe that in the US, individual states define their own cities in 
legislation.
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From Jim.Hale at FleetPride.com  Tue Nov 14 16:04:43 2006
From: Jim.Hale at FleetPride.com (Hale, Jim)
Date: Tue, 14 Nov 2006 16:04:43 -0600
Subject: [AccessD] FW: Partition Function
Message-ID: <6A6AA9DF57E4F046BDA1E273BDDB67727DE100@corp-es01.fleetpride.com>

Well I'll be damned. A new play pretty to amuse myself with that I never
knew existed. thanks!
Jim Hale

-----Original Message-----
From: Heenan, Lambert [mailto:Lambert.Heenan at aig.com]
Sent: Tuesday, November 14, 2006 3:34 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Cc: 'markamatte at hotmail.com'
Subject: Re: [AccessD] FW: Partition Function


There's also the Switch function which allows you to group by ranges, like
this...

Data Range: Switch([SomeDataValue]>8,"a) > 8",[SomeDataValue]>=5,"b) >= 5
and <= 8",[SomeDataValue]>=2,"c) >= 2 and < 5",[SomeDataValue]<2,"d) < 2")

In effect  Switch is like "convoluted IIF statements", but without the
convolutions! :-) Note that the order of the various comparisons in the
statement is significant as Switch stops at the first condition that
evaluates to True.

An advantage over Partition is that you can define the groupings arbitrarily
instead of them being equal groups of size "interval".

Lambert


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From dgibso at uark.edu  Tue Nov 14 16:28:23 2006
From: dgibso at uark.edu (David A Gibson)
Date: Tue, 14 Nov 2006 16:28:23 -0600
Subject: [AccessD] Useful Lists
In-Reply-To: <20061114220245.81400.qmail@web88214.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
References: <20061114220245.81400.qmail@web88214.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
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My sister lives in a "clothing optional" gated community.  :-D

Police, fire, and delivery are allowed entry.  The guard at the 
gatehouse just keeps out the curious and unwanted.

There are different designations of communities.  One near us (NW 
Arkansas, USA) has been a "village", legally, and run by a 
council.  No mayor, president, chief and so on.  They are now going 
through the growing pains of becoming a "town" with a mayor and 
council.  Elections and all that.  I'll see if I can look up some 
more concrete info but it won't be today as I am headed out.

David G.

At 04:02 PM 11/14/2006, you wrote:
>I think that on both points you hit the mark. I came from a suburb 
>of Winnipeg, Manitoba, called St. Vital. There was a time when St. 
>Vital became a city. I think it was population-based but I was a 
>child back then so I could be way wrong. I will research this some more.
>
>There is an oddity in Canada, private entities not part of the 
>adjacent town, city or whatever. In Toronto, one is Wychwood Park, a 
>private enclave that is responsible for paying its private 
>garbage-gatherers, snow-shovellers, etc. It is surrounded by 
>Toronto, but is somehow legally not part of Toronto. I can name 
>several other enclaves with this status within Ontario. I don't know 
>whether this status exists anywhere else in Canada, but I can name 
>several places of this distinction in Ontario. Here, these places 
>seem to be 100% white.
>
>They may or may not correspond to the gated communities in the USA; 
>in both cases they are inhabited by no one without large funds. Some 
>American on the list might contribute an opinion on gated 
>communities: are the city's police permitted to enter? The fire 
>department? Any non-resident other than a Fedex driver? Any person 
>of color other than the previous designations? Are there any gated 
>communities reserved for blacks or Hispanics, or are they reserved 
>for persons of pallor? Or, alternatively, am I woefully incorrect 
>about this, and the line of demarcation is affluence not color. Just curious.
>
>Arthur

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From Chester_Kaup at kindermorgan.com  Tue Nov 14 16:40:39 2006
From: Chester_Kaup at kindermorgan.com (Kaup, Chester)
Date: Tue, 14 Nov 2006 16:40:39 -0600
Subject: [AccessD] Carry Forward in a query
In-Reply-To: <6A6AA9DF57E4F046BDA1E273BDDB67727DE0FE@corp-es01.fleetpride.com>
Message-ID: <F1DD538AE6BCE74EBE562DE51564D32202246A05@houexch1.kindermorgan.com>

Here is what I have now. One table with dates and one table like below.
Query SQL as below. This works great.

SELECT T_PriceCurrent.SDate, 
(Select Price from T_PriceIndex as T1 where T1.SDate=(Select Max(SDate) 
from T_PriceIndex AS T2 where T2.SDate<=T_PriceCurrent.SDate)) 
AS PriceCurrent
FROM T_PriceCurrent;

SDate		Price
1/1/2005	8.56
1/23/2005	8.73
2/14/2005	8.40
3/1/2005	8.00
3/12/2005	8.45
3/27/2005	8.95
4/7/2005	8.12
4/30/2005	7.95
5/14/2005	8.03
5/27/2005	8.24
6/10/2005	9.03
6/25/2005	9.17
7/3/2005	9.25
7/27/2005	9.40
8/3/2005	9.64

What I cannot figure how to do is make it work if table looks like
below. I need output for each Pattern.
Pattern	SDate	Price
1	1/1/2005	8.56
1	1/23/2005	8.73
1	2/14/2005	8.40
1	3/1/2005	8.00
1	3/12/2005	8.45
1	3/27/2005	8.95
1	4/7/2005	8.12
1	4/30/2005	7.95
1	5/14/2005	8.03
1	5/27/2005	8.24
1	6/10/2005	9.03
1	6/25/2005	9.17
1	7/3/2005	9.25
1	7/27/2005	9.40
1	8/3/2005	9.64
2	1/7/2005	8.27
2	1/24/2005	8.71
2	2/13/2005	8.35
2	3/2/2005	8.02
2	3/13/2005	8.44
2	3/28/2005	8.93
2	4/6/2005	8.10
2	4/28/2005	7.98
2	5/15/2005	8.05
2	5/25/2005	8.20
2	6/9/2005	9.00
2	6/20/2005	9.15
2	7/1/2005	9.23
2	7/25/2005	9.35
2	8/4/2005	9.65
2	8/15/2005	9.50

Thanks for any ideas.

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Hale, Jim
Sent: Tuesday, November 14, 2006 3:59 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Carry Forward in a query

If I understand what you want to do, I have done this with a non
cartesian
join. I create a table with a one field record and  one record for each
date. In the query window I place this table and the table with the
record
you want to duplicate WITHOUT ANY JOIN. the resulting data set produces
one
record for each date. HTH
Jim Hale

-----Original Message-----
From: Kaup, Chester [mailto:Chester_Kaup at kindermorgan.com]
Sent: Tuesday, November 14, 2006 3:13 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: [AccessD] Carry Forward in a query


I have a table of data that has a record about every 6 months. I would
like to generate a record for every month using the previous months data
until there is data for the current records month. I can do this in code
but had a coworker ask if it could be done in a query. I am not coming
up with an answer. Your thoughts please.

 

Chester Kaup

Engineering Technician

Kinder Morgan CO2 Company, LLP

Office (432) 688-3797

FAX (432) 688-3799

 

 

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From wdhindman at dejpolsystems.com  Tue Nov 14 17:54:47 2006
From: wdhindman at dejpolsystems.com (William Hindman)
Date: Tue, 14 Nov 2006 18:54:47 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Useful Lists
References: <20061114220245.81400.qmail@web88214.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
	<7.0.1.0.0.20061114162222.01d4a020@uark.edu>
Message-ID: <004501c70848$44ab8f30$3e3de844@50NM721>

...it varies widely by state in the US ...more variety along the eastern 
seaboard and gulf where various nationalities influenced early conventions 
...less variety in the west where the fed had more of a hand in 
standardizing governmental entities ...here we just had an election where 
the property owners in an unincorporated area of the county had petitioned 
the state legislature to recognize us as a separate government entity from 
that of Palm Beach County ...the county government is effectively run by 
developers who were doing everything they could, legally and illegally, to 
break the original property covenants that didn't allow anything less than 
ten acre homesites in Loxahatchee Groves ...the developers want to buy up 
the property and put in much higher density housing ...the everglades to our 
immediate west creates a finite limit on available property and thus 
developable land is immensely valuable here.

...as for art's question re gated communities, anti-discrimination laws make 
it virtually impossible to create or maintain a racially pure community here 
...such communities are of course limited to those who can afford them and 
increasingly, that includes larger numbers of non-white ethnicities as they 
benefit from greater participation and success in our economic system ...in 
point of fact, if you went looking for racially segregated communities, it 
would be among the poorest communities that you would find them, not the 
richest simply because all too often the rule of law doesn't penetrate very 
far there.

William Hindman

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "David A Gibson" <dgibso at uark.edu>
To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving" 
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Tuesday, November 14, 2006 5:28 PM
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Useful Lists


> My sister lives in a "clothing optional" gated community.  :-D
>
> Police, fire, and delivery are allowed entry.  The guard at the
> gatehouse just keeps out the curious and unwanted.
>
> There are different designations of communities.  One near us (NW
> Arkansas, USA) has been a "village", legally, and run by a
> council.  No mayor, president, chief and so on.  They are now going
> through the growing pains of becoming a "town" with a mayor and
> council.  Elections and all that.  I'll see if I can look up some
> more concrete info but it won't be today as I am headed out.
>
> David G.
>
> At 04:02 PM 11/14/2006, you wrote:
>>I think that on both points you hit the mark. I came from a suburb
>>of Winnipeg, Manitoba, called St. Vital. There was a time when St.
>>Vital became a city. I think it was population-based but I was a
>>child back then so I could be way wrong. I will research this some more.
>>
>>There is an oddity in Canada, private entities not part of the
>>adjacent town, city or whatever. In Toronto, one is Wychwood Park, a
>>private enclave that is responsible for paying its private
>>garbage-gatherers, snow-shovellers, etc. It is surrounded by
>>Toronto, but is somehow legally not part of Toronto. I can name
>>several other enclaves with this status within Ontario. I don't know
>>whether this status exists anywhere else in Canada, but I can name
>>several places of this distinction in Ontario. Here, these places
>>seem to be 100% white.
>>
>>They may or may not correspond to the gated communities in the USA;
>>in both cases they are inhabited by no one without large funds. Some
>>American on the list might contribute an opinion on gated
>>communities: are the city's police permitted to enter? The fire
>>department? Any non-resident other than a Fedex driver? Any person
>>of color other than the previous designations? Are there any gated
>>communities reserved for blacks or Hispanics, or are they reserved
>>for persons of pallor? Or, alternatively, am I woefully incorrect
>>about this, and the line of demarcation is affluence not color. Just 
>>curious.
>>
>>Arthur
>
> David A. Gibson
> Computer Support Specialist II
> University of Arkansas
> 232 Silas H. Hunt Hall
> 1 University of Arkansas
> Fayetteville, Arkansas  72701
> 800-377-8632
> (479) 575-4654
> <http://www.uark.edu>www.uark.<http://www.uark.edu>edu
>
> The University of Arkansas
> Nationally Competitive- Student Centered- Research University
>
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From artful at rogers.com  Tue Nov 14 18:13:39 2006
From: artful at rogers.com (artful at rogers.com)
Date: Tue, 14 Nov 2006 16:13:39 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [AccessD] Useful Lists
Message-ID: <20061115001339.90569.qmail@web88201.mail.re2.yahoo.com>

Cool response, William! Thanks!

----- Original Message ----
From: William Hindman <wdhindman at dejpolsystems.com>
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Tuesday, November 14, 2006 6:54:47 PM
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Useful Lists

...it varies widely by state in the US ...more variety along the eastern 
seaboard and gulf where various nationalities influenced early conventions 
...less variety in the west where the fed had more of a hand in 
standardizing governmental entities ...here we just had an election where 
the property owners in an unincorporated area of the county had petitioned 
the state legislature to recognize us as a separate government entity from 
that of Palm Beach County ...the county government is effectively run by 
developers who were doing everything they could, legally and illegally, to 
break the original property covenants that didn't allow anything less than 
ten acre homesites in Loxahatchee Groves ...the developers want to buy up 
the property and put in much higher density housing ...the everglades to our 
immediate west creates a finite limit on available property and thus 
developable land is immensely valuable here.

...as for art's question re gated communities, anti-discrimination laws make 
it virtually impossible to create or maintain a racially pure community here 
...such communities are of course limited to those who can afford them and 
increasingly, that includes larger numbers of non-white ethnicities as they 
benefit from greater participation and success in our economic system ...in 
point of fact, if you went looking for racially segregated communities, it 
would be among the poorest communities that you would find them, not the 
richest simply because all too often the rule of law doesn't penetrate very 
far there.

William Hindman

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "David A Gibson" <dgibso at uark.edu>
To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving" 
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Tuesday, November 14, 2006 5:28 PM
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Useful Lists


> My sister lives in a "clothing optional" gated community.  :-D
>
> Police, fire, and delivery are allowed entry.  The guard at the
> gatehouse just keeps out the curious and unwanted.
>
> There are different designations of communities.  One near us (NW
> Arkansas, USA) has been a "village", legally, and run by a
> council.  No mayor, president, chief and so on.  They are now going
> through the growing pains of becoming a "town" with a mayor and
> council.  Elections and all that.  I'll see if I can look up some
> more concrete info but it won't be today as I am headed out.
>
> David G.
>
> At 04:02 PM 11/14/2006, you wrote:
>>I think that on both points you hit the mark. I came from a suburb
>>of Winnipeg, Manitoba, called St. Vital. There was a time when St.
>>Vital became a city. I think it was population-based but I was a
>>child back then so I could be way wrong. I will research this some more.
>>
>>There is an oddity in Canada, private entities not part of the
>>adjacent town, city or whatever. In Toronto, one is Wychwood Park, a
>>private enclave that is responsible for paying its private
>>garbage-gatherers, snow-shovellers, etc. It is surrounded by
>>Toronto, but is somehow legally not part of Toronto. I can name
>>several other enclaves with this status within Ontario. I don't know
>>whether this status exists anywhere else in Canada, but I can name
>>several places of this distinction in Ontario. Here, these places
>>seem to be 100% white.
>>
>>They may or may not correspond to the gated communities in the USA;
>>in both cases they are inhabited by no one without large funds. Some
>>American on the list might contribute an opinion on gated
>>communities: are the city's police permitted to enter? The fire
>>department? Any non-resident other than a Fedex driver? Any person
>>of color other than the previous designations? Are there any gated
>>communities reserved for blacks or Hispanics, or are they reserved
>>for persons of pallor? Or, alternatively, am I woefully incorrect
>>about this, and the line of demarcation is affluence not color. Just 
>>curious.
>>
>>Arthur
>
> David A. Gibson
> Computer Support Specialist II
> University of Arkansas
> 232 Silas H. Hunt Hall
> 1 University of Arkansas
> Fayetteville, Arkansas  72701
> 800-377-8632
> (479) 575-4654
> <http://www.uark.edu>www.uark.<http://www.uark.edu>edu>
>
> The University of Arkansas
> Nationally Competitive- Student Centered- Research University
>
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From prodevmg at yahoo.com  Tue Nov 14 18:39:45 2006
From: prodevmg at yahoo.com (Lonnie Johnson)
Date: Tue, 14 Nov 2006 16:39:45 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [AccessD] Unable to bookmark after record is deleted
Message-ID: <20061115003945.56810.qmail@web33106.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Gustav,

You're the man. That did it for me. Never worked much with bookmarks in this capacity. I am all the smarter now because of you.
 








May God bless you beyond your imagination!
Lonnie Johnson
ProDev, Professional Development of MS Access Databases
Visit me at ==> http://www.prodev.us






 



----- Original Message ----
From: Gustav Brock <Gustav at cactus.dk>
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Sent: Tuesday, November 14, 2006 5:53:13 AM
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Unable to bookmark after record is deleted


Hi Lonnie

When you delete a record the bookmarks are destroyed.
Before you delete, retrieve the ID of the bookmarked record, delete, locate the bookmarked record by its ID, and reestablish the bookmark.

/gustav

>>> prodevmg at yahoo.com 14-11-2006 05:28:31 >>>
I have a process that deletes a record in a recordset of a subform via vba, then requeries the subform object. Then I try to move to another record using the bookmark and I get a message that says there is not current record for the recordset clone of the subform?  I know there are records, this only happens when I delete or insert a record into the underlying recordset.


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From bchacc at san.rr.com  Tue Nov 14 19:11:54 2006
From: bchacc at san.rr.com (Beach Access Software)
Date: Tue, 14 Nov 2006 17:11:54 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] Copy a record in a table
Message-ID: <010901c70853$0a2ce290$6a01a8c0@HAL9005>


Dear List:

 

Is there a quick or slick or elegant way to copy a record in a table to a
new record in the same table - just duplicating a record  

 

I've done it using DAO and cycling through the fields and creating the new
record and adding it but that seems awfully crude. 

 

MTIA

 

Rocky

 

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From stuart at lexacorp.com.pg  Tue Nov 14 19:50:06 2006
From: stuart at lexacorp.com.pg (Stuart McLachlan)
Date: Wed, 15 Nov 2006 11:50:06 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] Copy a record in a table
In-Reply-To: <010901c70853$0a2ce290$6a01a8c0@HAL9005>
References: <010901c70853$0a2ce290$6a01a8c0@HAL9005>
Message-ID: <455AFEEE.16670.703A6514@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>

On 14 Nov 2006 at 17:11, Beach Access Software wrote:

> 
> Dear List:
> 
>  
> 
> Is there a quick or slick or elegant way to copy a record in a table to a
> new record in the same table - just duplicating a record  

INSERT INTO tblTable
SELECT tblTable.*
FROM tblTable
WHERE  fldID = IDofRecordToCopy





From bchacc at san.rr.com  Tue Nov 14 22:08:06 2006
From: bchacc at san.rr.com (Beach Access Software)
Date: Tue, 14 Nov 2006 20:08:06 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] Copy a record in a table
In-Reply-To: <455AFEEE.16670.703A6514@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>
Message-ID: <014901c7086b$a7eeb3b0$6a01a8c0@HAL9005>

Stuart:

I'm using
        db.Execute "INSERT INTO tblJobMaster SELECT tblJobMaster.* FROM
tblJobMaster " _
     & "WHERE fldJobMasterID = " & rstJobMasterEquipmentIn!fldJobMasterID

But I get the cryptic 'Too few parameters.  Expected 1'.  Can you see what
I'm doing wrong?

Thanks.

Rocky

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Stuart McLachlan
Sent: Tuesday, November 14, 2006 5:50 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Copy a record in a table

On 14 Nov 2006 at 17:11, Beach Access Software wrote:

> 
> Dear List:
> 
>  
> 
> Is there a quick or slick or elegant way to copy a record in a table to a
> new record in the same table - just duplicating a record  

INSERT INTO tblTable
SELECT tblTable.*
FROM tblTable
WHERE  fldID = IDofRecordToCopy



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From stuart at lexacorp.com.pg  Tue Nov 14 22:24:24 2006
From: stuart at lexacorp.com.pg (Stuart McLachlan)
Date: Wed, 15 Nov 2006 14:24:24 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] Copy a record in a table
In-Reply-To: <014901c7086b$a7eeb3b0$6a01a8c0@HAL9005>
References: <455AFEEE.16670.703A6514@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>,
	<014901c7086b$a7eeb3b0$6a01a8c0@HAL9005>
Message-ID: <455B2318.27169.70C7A8E5@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>

On 14 Nov 2006 at 20:08, Beach Access Software wrote:

> Stuart:
> 
> I'm using
>         db.Execute "INSERT INTO tblJobMaster SELECT tblJobMaster.* FROM
> tblJobMaster " _
>      & "WHERE fldJobMasterID = " & rstJobMasterEquipmentIn!fldJobMasterID
> 
> But I get the cryptic 'Too few parameters.  Expected 1'.  Can you see what
> I'm doing wrong?

WHile developing, try using

strSQL = .....
Docmd.RunSQL strSQL
instead of .Execute.

You get much more helpful error messages that way.

Just a WAG but  is fldJobMasterID a PK or constrained to being unique?

Creating a new record like this, you are trying to create another record in the table with ALL of the fields the same, including any 
unique fields,PK or otherwise.  (You did ask originally to "duplicate" a record in a table) 










From martyconnelly at shaw.ca  Tue Nov 14 22:48:28 2006
From: martyconnelly at shaw.ca (MartyConnelly)
Date: Tue, 14 Nov 2006 20:48:28 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] Useful Lists
In-Reply-To: <20061114220245.81400.qmail@web88214.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
References: <20061114220245.81400.qmail@web88214.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <455A9C1C.4000005@shaw.ca>

Rockliffe Park Village was that way in downtown Ottawa until 
amalgamation in 2001.
It was admittance more by class than affluence, although 
multi-millionaires found a way in.
It was mostly Government ministers and ambassadors. I think the population
was under 2000. In the 80's no house was under a million.


artful at rogers.com wrote:

>I think that on both points you hit the mark. I came from a suburb of Winnipeg, Manitoba, called St. Vital. There was a time when St. Vital became a city. I think it was population-based but I was a child back then so I could be way wrong. I will research this some more.
>
>There is an oddity in Canada, private entities not part of the adjacent town, city or whatever. In Toronto, one is Wychwood Park, a private enclave that is responsible for paying its private garbage-gatherers, snow-shovellers, etc. It is surrounded by Toronto, but is somehow legally not part of Toronto. I can name several other enclaves with this status within Ontario. I don't know whether this status exists anywhere else in Canada, but I can name several places of this distinction in Ontario. Here, these places seem to be 100% white.
>
>They may or may not correspond to the gated communities in the USA; in both cases they are inhabited by no one without large funds. Some American on the list might contribute an opinion on gated communities: are the city's police permitted to enter? The fire department? Any non-resident other than a Fedex driver? Any person of color other than the previous designations? Are there any gated communities reserved for blacks or Hispanics, or are they reserved for persons of pallor? Or, alternatively, am I woefully incorrect about this, and the line of demarcation is affluence not color. Just curious.
>
>Arthur
>
>----- Original Message ----
>From: Stuart McLachlan <stuart at lexacorp.com.pg>
>To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
>Sent: Tuesday, November 14, 2006 4:15:39 PM
>Subject: Re: [AccessD] Useful Lists
>
>On 14 Nov 2006 at 10:20, artful at rogers.com wrote:
>
>  
>
>>All these years I have been under the (clearly false) impression that
>>precise population-numbers defined these terms. Apparently I have wrong, lo
>>these decades. I have just taken a local poll (only 4 people) and the
>>agreement here is that a city is 100,000 people or more; a town is 999,999
>>people or fewer; a village is 2,000 people or fewer; a hamlet is 500 people
>>or fewer. We four Canadians readily agreed on these numbers, but that might
>>be something we picked up in school that has no relation to the larger
>>world.
>>
>>    
>>
>
>In the UK, a city  was originally a town with a cathedral. It is an actual 
>status conferred on an urban area by the monarch.
>
>I believe that in the US, individual states define their own cities in 
>legislation.
>  
>

-- 
Marty Connelly
Victoria, B.C.
Canada



From martyconnelly at shaw.ca  Tue Nov 14 23:08:15 2006
From: martyconnelly at shaw.ca (MartyConnelly)
Date: Tue, 14 Nov 2006 21:08:15 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] Useful Lists
In-Reply-To: <20061114194458.44797.qmail@web88203.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
References: <20061114194458.44797.qmail@web88203.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <455AA0BF.7050407@shaw.ca>

In addition to lists there are public web services that provide things like
those listed below from places like
http://www.webservicex.net/WS/default.aspx

 LloydsRiskCodeService
US Address verification
Barcode Generator
North American Industry Classification System
United Nations Standard Products and Services Code
Medi Care Supplier
FedACH
FedWire
USA Weather Forecast
MortgageIndex
SunSetRiseService
GeoIPService
 Stock Quote
Currency Convertor
Global Weather
London Gold And Silver Fixing
Real Time Market Data
SendSMSWorld
OFAC SDN and Blocked Persons
Translation Engine
ABA Lookup

artful at rogers.com wrote:

>So help! Send me your list. I will rationalize it with the travel agency list, perhaps using columns to designate the lists. After all, we only have 26 letters. Shamil and various others could of course contribute additional alphabets. This obviously doesn't make sense in the various dialects of China, for example. Incidentally, I have heard or read that there are precisely 100 surnames in China. I find this difficult to believe, but it was explained to me as follows: Chang, Chong, Chuang, etc. all refer to the same ideogram, and the differences relate to dialects rather than their single symbolic reference.
>
>I have no idea whether this is correct. But it wouldn't strike me as remarkable if it were. Mind you, the decision about exactly 100 names would strike me as remarkable. If we have any Mandarin/Cantonese/Mongolian/etc. people, it would be useful to receive your input on this subject. A long time ago I was in Japan and used a computer that did translations from a phonetic language to the Japanese characters. I forget the names, but the basic idea was that one could type in "katana" or "shodan" or "wazashi", and this would translate into the appropriate ideograms, occasionally resulting in a listbox of similar words, along with their symbols. This was a long time ago, and I assume that the software has advanced vastly from there, but I haven't been back so I don't know.
>
>Returning to airport codes, I think that the world uses the English list, and that pilots use English as the lingua franca, but I'm not sure about that. Listers outside North America, please assist this ignorant Canadian.
>
>Arthur
>
>----- Original Message ----
>From: Mark A Matte <markamatte at hotmail.com>
>To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
>Sent: Tuesday, November 14, 2006 1:57:46 PM
>Subject: Re: [AccessD] Useful Lists
>
>Arthur,
>
>"I think it is identical to the similar
>list from the military, but perhaps not. (In case you don't know what I 
>mean,
>Able Baker Charlie etc.)
>"
>Refers to the phonetic alphabet.  US military version would be "Alpha, 
>Bravo,Charlie"
>
>Of all the lists you mentioned...its probably the only one I could 
>contribute to.  I know that different occupations and english speaking 
>peoples use a different variation of the list.
>
>I'd be glad to help any way I can.
>
>Thanks,
>
>Mark A. Matte
>
>  
>
>>From: artful at rogers.com
>>Reply-To: Access Developers discussion and problem 
>>solving<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
>>To: "AccessD at databaseadvisors. com" <AccessD at databaseadvisors.com>,   
>>dba-SQLServer <dba-SQLServer at databaseadvisors.com>
>>Subject: [AccessD] Useful Lists
>>Date: Tue, 14 Nov 2006 10:20:41 -0800 (PST)
>>
>>On the basis of the thread about airport lists, I proposed to Jim Lawrence 
>>that we accumulate a bunch of similar lists. As my father said when I 
>>joined the CDN Air Force at 17, "Don't volunteer for anything." O well. Jim 
>>has invited me to spearhead the acquisition of said lists, and I have 
>>accepted the assignment.
>>
>>So, to all of you listers, three questions:
>>
>>1. What lists do you possess that you think would be useful to your fellow 
>>AccessD/dba-SQL listers?
>>2. What lists do you lack that you desire?
>>
>>(I couldn't resist the old programmer's joke. There are three types of 
>>programmers -- those who can count and those who can't.)
>>
>>Chances are that more than one of you may volunteer to contribute similar 
>>or identical lists. The latter is easy to deal with. The former is a little 
>>tougher, since it might require UNIONing several lists, but that's ok.
>>
>>I have one list ready to go, which is the list of words corresponding to 
>>letters that travel agents use to spell names. I think it is identical to 
>>the similar list from the military, but perhaps not. (In case you don't 
>>know what I mean, Able Baker Charlie etc.)
>>
>>I also have another list of cities within North America, and states and 
>>provinces to correspond. It is not ready to go, there are some duplicates, 
>>but I could prune the dupes. The list consists only of those cities into 
>>which the company I was formerly associated with sold products, but it 
>>numbers about 5,000 cities, give or take 3. Far from exhaustive, but a good 
>>start, and similar lists could easily be UNIONed. That leaves out all the 
>>listers uninterested in cities in North America, but listers residing 
>>elsewhere might be able to contribute more cities. On this one, there is a 
>>difficulty. Within North America, there are states and provinces. In 
>>Switzerland, there are cantons.
>>
>>On this subject, I have just done some searches in dictionary.com and come 
>>up with some hilarious definitions:
>>
>>City -- an important town
>>Town -- a large village
>>Village -- a small community or group of houses in a rural area, larger 
>>than a
>>hamlet and usually smaller than a town, and sometimes (as in parts of
>>the U.S.) incorporated as a municipality.
>>Hamlet -- British. a village without a church of its own, belonging to the 
>>parish of another village or town.
>>County (the richest by far) --
>>1.the largest administrative division of a U.S. state: Miami, Florida, is 
>>in Dade County.
>>
>>2.one of the chief administrative divisions of a country or state, as in 
>>Great Britain and Ireland.
>>
>>3.one of the larger divisions for purposes of local administration, as in 
>>Canada and New Zealand.
>>
>>4.the territory of a county, esp. its rural areas, as in: "We farmed out in 
>>the county before moving to town.".
>>
>>5.the inhabitants of a county, as in, "It was supposed to be a secret, but 
>>you told the whole county.".
>>
>>6.the domain of a count or earl.
>>
>>
>>All these years I have been under the (clearly false) impression that 
>>precise population-numbers defined these terms. Apparently I have wrong, lo 
>>these decades. I have just taken a local poll (only 4 people) and the 
>>agreement here is that a city is 100,000 people or more; a town is 999,999 
>>people or fewer; a village is 2,000 people or fewer; a hamlet is 500 people 
>>or fewer. We four Canadians readily agreed on these numbers, but that might 
>>be something we picked up in school that has no relation to the larger 
>>world.
>>
>>Arthur
>>
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>
>_________________________________________________________________
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>route!  http://local.live.com?FORM=MGA001
>
>
>  
>

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From bchacc at san.rr.com  Tue Nov 14 23:10:56 2006
From: bchacc at san.rr.com (Beach Access Software)
Date: Tue, 14 Nov 2006 21:10:56 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] Copy a record in a table
In-Reply-To: <455B2318.27169.70C7A8E5@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>
Message-ID: <016101c70874$6ed01e30$6a01a8c0@HAL9005>

Oops.  My bad.  fldJobMasterID is an the Autonumber PK of tblJobMaster.
Won't work then, will it?

Rocky


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Stuart McLachlan
Sent: Tuesday, November 14, 2006 8:24 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Copy a record in a table

On 14 Nov 2006 at 20:08, Beach Access Software wrote:

> Stuart:
> 
> I'm using
>         db.Execute "INSERT INTO tblJobMaster SELECT tblJobMaster.* FROM
> tblJobMaster " _
>      & "WHERE fldJobMasterID = " & rstJobMasterEquipmentIn!fldJobMasterID
> 
> But I get the cryptic 'Too few parameters.  Expected 1'.  Can you see what
> I'm doing wrong?

WHile developing, try using

strSQL = .....
Docmd.RunSQL strSQL
instead of .Execute.

You get much more helpful error messages that way.

Just a WAG but  is fldJobMasterID a PK or constrained to being unique?

Creating a new record like this, you are trying to create another record in
the table with ALL of the fields the same, including any 
unique fields,PK or otherwise.  (You did ask originally to "duplicate" a
record in a table) 








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From accessd at shaw.ca  Tue Nov 14 23:23:10 2006
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Tue, 14 Nov 2006 21:23:10 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] ATA airport list for the DBA list
In-Reply-To: <002101c70810$87dfd280$f1bc2ad1@SUSANONE>
Message-ID: <0J8R00IQ2AWEIPH0@l-daemon>

Hi Susan:

I can not seem to get the browsers to produce what you are seeing. Could you
display the inconsistency on your monitor, print it to a file and send me
the file off-line. In the meantime, what browser are you using?

TIA

Regards
Jim

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Susan Harkins
Sent: Tuesday, November 14, 2006 9:16 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: Re: [AccessD] ATA airport list for the DBA list

I see one plane. Above it and under the page title, there's a rectangular
white box. The only reason I can tell is because it blocks the gray border. 

Susan H. 

My browser mirrors the airplane left-right ...

>>> artful at rogers.com 14-11-2006 15:11:17 >>>
I'm running FF and not seeing anything weird. Looks just fine, and perhaps
fancy, to me. 


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From artful at rogers.com  Wed Nov 15 00:43:13 2006
From: artful at rogers.com (artful at rogers.com)
Date: Tue, 14 Nov 2006 22:43:13 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [AccessD] Useful Lists
Message-ID: <20061115064313.38029.qmail@web88209.mail.re2.yahoo.com>

I will spend some time turning some of these into Access databases. These can easily be ported to any other database such as MS-SQL or Oracle or Sybase, etc. I admit that I have no idea what some of these designations mean (FedACH for example), but I'll look at the site and import what I can.

I just glanced at the site, and it raises an interesting question. Perhaps it is pointless to grab rapidly changing lists, since by definition they require frequent refreshment. The list of elements, or planets, or sexes, changes relatively infrequently. Maybe we ought to concentrate on infrequently changing lists and leave the rest to net-lookups?

Arthur

----- Original Message ----
From: MartyConnelly <martyconnelly at shaw.ca>
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Wednesday, November 15, 2006 12:08:15 AM
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Useful Lists

In addition to lists there are public web services that provide things like
those listed below from places like
http://www.webservicex.net/WS/default.aspx

 LloydsRiskCodeService
US Address verification
Barcode Generator
North American Industry Classification System
United Nations Standard Products and Services Code
Medi Care Supplier
FedACH
FedWire
USA Weather Forecast
MortgageIndex
SunSetRiseService
GeoIPService
 Stock Quote
Currency Convertor
Global Weather
London Gold And Silver Fixing
Real Time Market Data
SendSMSWorld
OFAC SDN and Blocked Persons
Translation Engine
ABA Lookup

artful at rogers.com wrote:

>So help! Send me your list. I will rationalize it with the travel agency list, perhaps using columns to designate the lists. After all, we only have 26 letters. Shamil and various others could of course contribute additional alphabets. This obviously doesn't make sense in the various dialects of China, for example. Incidentally, I have heard or read that there are precisely 100 surnames in China. I find this difficult to believe, but it was explained to me as follows: Chang, Chong, Chuang, etc. all refer to the same ideogram, and the differences relate to dialects rather than their single symbolic reference.
>
>I have no idea whether this is correct. But it wouldn't strike me as remarkable if it were. Mind you, the decision about exactly 100 names would strike me as remarkable. If we have any Mandarin/Cantonese/Mongolian/etc. people, it would be useful to receive your input on this subject. A long time ago I was in Japan and used a computer that did translations from a phonetic language to the Japanese characters. I forget the names, but the basic idea was that one could type in "katana" or "shodan" or "wazashi", and this would translate into the appropriate ideograms, occasionally resulting in a listbox of similar words, along with their symbols. This was a long time ago, and I assume that the software has advanced vastly from there, but I haven't been back so I don't know.
>
>Returning to airport codes, I think that the world uses the English list, and that pilots use English as the lingua franca, but I'm not sure about that. Listers outside North America, please assist this ignorant Canadian.
>
>Arthur
>
>----- Original Message ----
>From: Mark A Matte <markamatte at hotmail.com>
>To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
>Sent: Tuesday, November 14, 2006 1:57:46 PM
>Subject: Re: [AccessD] Useful Lists
>
>Arthur,
>
>"I think it is identical to the similar
>list from the military, but perhaps not. (In case you don't know what I 
>mean,
>Able Baker Charlie etc.)
>"
>Refers to the phonetic alphabet.  US military version would be "Alpha, 
>Bravo,Charlie"
>
>Of all the lists you mentioned...its probably the only one I could 
>contribute to.  I know that different occupations and english speaking 
>peoples use a different variation of the list.
>
>I'd be glad to help any way I can.
>
>Thanks,
>
>Mark A. Matte
>
>  
>
>>From: artful at rogers.com
>>Reply-To: Access Developers discussion and problem 
>>solving<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
>>To: "AccessD at databaseadvisors. com" <AccessD at databaseadvisors.com>,   
>>dba-SQLServer <dba-SQLServer at databaseadvisors.com>
>>Subject: [AccessD] Useful Lists
>>Date: Tue, 14 Nov 2006 10:20:41 -0800 (PST)
>>
>>On the basis of the thread about airport lists, I proposed to Jim Lawrence 
>>that we accumulate a bunch of similar lists. As my father said when I 
>>joined the CDN Air Force at 17, "Don't volunteer for anything." O well. Jim 
>>has invited me to spearhead the acquisition of said lists, and I have 
>>accepted the assignment.
>>
>>So, to all of you listers, three questions:
>>
>>1. What lists do you possess that you think would be useful to your fellow 
>>AccessD/dba-SQL listers?
>>2. What lists do you lack that you desire?
>>
>>(I couldn't resist the old programmer's joke. There are three types of 
>>programmers -- those who can count and those who can't.)
>>
>>Chances are that more than one of you may volunteer to contribute similar 
>>or identical lists. The latter is easy to deal with. The former is a little 
>>tougher, since it might require UNIONing several lists, but that's ok.
>>
>>I have one list ready to go, which is the list of words corresponding to 
>>letters that travel agents use to spell names. I think it is identical to 
>>the similar list from the military, but perhaps not. (In case you don't 
>>know what I mean, Able Baker Charlie etc.)
>>
>>I also have another list of cities within North America, and states and 
>>provinces to correspond. It is not ready to go, there are some duplicates, 
>>but I could prune the dupes. The list consists only of those cities into 
>>which the company I was formerly associated with sold products, but it 
>>numbers about 5,000 cities, give or take 3. Far from exhaustive, but a good 
>>start, and similar lists could easily be UNIONed. That leaves out all the 
>>listers uninterested in cities in North America, but listers residing 
>>elsewhere might be able to contribute more cities. On this one, there is a 
>>difficulty. Within North America, there are states and provinces. In 
>>Switzerland, there are cantons.
>>
>>On this subject, I have just done some searches in dictionary.com and come 
>>up with some hilarious definitions:
>>
>>City -- an important town
>>Town -- a large village
>>Village -- a small community or group of houses in a rural area, larger 
>>than a
>>hamlet and usually smaller than a town, and sometimes (as in parts of
>>the U.S.) incorporated as a municipality.
>>Hamlet -- British. a village without a church of its own, belonging to the 
>>parish of another village or town.
>>County (the richest by far) --
>>1.the largest administrative division of a U.S. state: Miami, Florida, is 
>>in Dade County.
>>
>>2.one of the chief administrative divisions of a country or state, as in 
>>Great Britain and Ireland.
>>
>>3.one of the larger divisions for purposes of local administration, as in 
>>Canada and New Zealand.
>>
>>4.the territory of a county, esp. its rural areas, as in: "We farmed out in 
>>the county before moving to town.".
>>
>>5.the inhabitants of a county, as in, "It was supposed to be a secret, but 
>>you told the whole county.".
>>
>>6.the domain of a count or earl.
>>
>>
>>All these years I have been under the (clearly false) impression that 
>>precise population-numbers defined these terms. Apparently I have wrong, lo 
>>these decades. I have just taken a local poll (only 4 people) and the 
>>agreement here is that a city is 100,000 people or more; a town is 999,999 
>>people or fewer; a village is 2,000 people or fewer; a hamlet is 500 people 
>>or fewer. We four Canadians readily agreed on these numbers, but that might 
>>be something we picked up in school that has no relation to the larger 
>>world.
>>
>>Arthur
>>
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>>
>
>_________________________________________________________________
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>route!  http://local.live.com?FORM=MGA001
>
>
>  
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From artful at rogers.com  Wed Nov 15 00:46:35 2006
From: artful at rogers.com (artful at rogers.com)
Date: Tue, 14 Nov 2006 22:46:35 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [AccessD] ATA airport list for the DBA list
Message-ID: <20061115064635.85195.qmail@web88207.mail.re2.yahoo.com>

Nor could I. I just tried FF, IE7 and Opera, and I'm failing to see what Susan sees. Of course, this could be due to my age.

----- Original Message ----
From: Jim Lawrence <accessd at shaw.ca>
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Wednesday, November 15, 2006 12:23:10 AM
Subject: Re: [AccessD] ATA airport list for the DBA list

Hi Susan:

I can not seem to get the browsers to produce what you are seeing. Could you
display the inconsistency on your monitor, print it to a file and send me
the file off-line. In the meantime, what browser are you using?

TIA

Regards
Jim

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Susan Harkins
Sent: Tuesday, November 14, 2006 9:16 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: Re: [AccessD] ATA airport list for the DBA list

I see one plane. Above it and under the page title, there's a rectangular
white box. The only reason I can tell is because it blocks the gray border. 

Susan H. 

My browser mirrors the airplane left-right ...

>>> artful at rogers.com 14-11-2006 15:11:17 >>>
I'm running FF and not seeing anything weird. Looks just fine, and perhaps
fancy, to me. 


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From adtp at airtelbroadband.in  Wed Nov 15 01:32:23 2006
From: adtp at airtelbroadband.in (A.D.TEJPAL)
Date: Wed, 15 Nov 2006 13:02:23 +0530
Subject: [AccessD] Copy a record in a table
References: <010901c70853$0a2ce290$6a01a8c0@HAL9005>
Message-ID: <010e01c70888$cc8e97e0$a20c177d@pcadt>

Rocky,

    Apparently, you are looking for a straightforward method to copy an existing record to new record in the same table, without having to  bother with individual field names. It is presumed that the table has autonumber type primary key.

    Use of an insert statement with wild card for field names looks tempting and deceptively simple. However, it gets ruled out as the action would attempt to create a duplicate value in primary key field.

    A rough & ready method involves copying of desired record to clipboard and then pasting it on to the new record. This works smoothly, without attracting any error on a/c of attempted duplication of primary key value. Instead, correct autoonumber gets automatically  assigned to the newly pasted record, over-ruling the PK value in clipboard. Sample sub-routine named P_CopyRecordToNew(), as given at (A) below, demonstrates this approach.

    For ready reference, sample sub-routine P_InsertRecordCopy(), as given at (B) below, represents a more formal approach for accomplishing the same task.

    Once you put these subs in a general module, invoking the one at (B) should be equally convenient as the one at (A). Eventually, you might prefer the one at (B).

Best wishes,
A.D.Tejpal
---------------

A) Copy existing record to new record in same table
     (Rough & Ready method)
==================================
Sub P_CopyRecordToNew(ByVal TableName _
                    As String, ByVal PkName As String, _
                    ByVal PkNum As Long)
    DoCmd.OpenTable TableName
    DoCmd.GoToControl PkName
    DoCmd.FindRecord PkNum
    DoCmd.RunCommand acCmdSelectRecord
    DoCmd.RunCommand acCmdCopy
    DoCmd.GoToRecord , , acNewRec
    DoCmd.RunCommand acCmdPaste
    DoCmd.Close acTable, TableName, acSaveYes
End Sub
==================================

B) Copy existing record to new record in same table
     (Formal method)
==================================
Sub P_InsertRecordCopy(ByVal TableName _
                    As String, ByVal PkName As String, _
                    ByVal PkNum As Long)
    Dim Qst As String, FieldList As String
    Dim fd As Field
    Dim db As DAO.Database
    
    Set db = DBEngine(0)(0)
    FieldList = ""
    For Each fd In db.TableDefs(TableName).Fields
        If fd.Name <> PkName Then
            FieldList = FieldList & _
                            IIf(Len(FieldList) > 0, _
                            ", ", "") & fd.Name
        End If
    Next
    
    Qst = "Insert Into " & TableName & " (" & _
            FieldList & ") Select " & FieldList & _
            " From " & TableName & " Where " & _
            PkName & " = " & PkNum & ";"
    db.Execute Qst, dbFailOnError
    
    Set fd = Nothing
    Set db = Nothing
End Sub
==================================

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Beach Access Software 
  To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' 
  Sent: Wednesday, November 15, 2006 06:41
  Subject: [AccessD] Copy a record in a table

  Dear List: 

  Is there a quick or slick or elegant way to copy a record in a table to a
  new record in the same table - just duplicating a record 

  I've done it using DAO and cycling through the fields and creating the new record and adding it but that seems awfully crude.  

  MTIA 

  Rocky

From Gustav at cactus.dk  Wed Nov 15 04:18:16 2006
From: Gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Wed, 15 Nov 2006 11:18:16 +0100
Subject: [AccessD] Useful Lists
Message-ID: <s55af79c.080@cactus.dk>

Hi Arthur

You have a point here - note the previous message from Max about the outdated info for the BKK airport.

/gustav

>>> artful at rogers.com 15-11-2006 07:43 >>>
I will spend some time turning some of these into Access databases. These can easily be ported to any other database such as MS-SQL or Oracle or Sybase, etc. I admit that I have no idea what some of these designations mean (FedACH for example), but I'll look at the site and import what I can.

I just glanced at the site, and it raises an interesting question. Perhaps it is pointless to grab rapidly changing lists, since by definition they require frequent refreshment. The list of elements, or planets, or sexes, changes relatively infrequently. Maybe we ought to concentrate on infrequently changing lists and leave the rest to net-lookups?

Arthur



From Gustav at cactus.dk  Wed Nov 15 05:02:31 2006
From: Gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Wed, 15 Nov 2006 12:02:31 +0100
Subject: [AccessD] Copy a record in a table
Message-ID: <s55b01f8.082@cactus.dk>

Hi Rocky

Crude? How come? DAO is normally the fastest method to add a record to a recordset.
Here's a basic function:

<code>

Public Function CopyRecord( _
  ByVal strTable As String, _
  ByVal strId As String, _
  ByVal lngId As Long) _
  As Boolean

  Dim dbs     As DAO.Database
  Dim rst     As DAO.Recordset
  Dim rstAdd  As DAO.Recordset
  Dim fld     As DAO.Field
  Dim strFld  As String
  
  Set dbs = CurrentDb
  Set rst = dbs.OpenRecordset("Select * From " & strTable & " Where " & strId & "=" & lngId & ";")
  Set rstAdd = dbs.OpenRecordset("Select Top 1 * From " & strTable & ";")
  
  With rstAdd
    .AddNew
      For Each fld In rstAdd.Fields
        With fld
          strFld = .Name
          If Not strFld = strId Then
            .Value = rst.Fields(strFld).Value
          End If
        End With
      Next
    .Update
    .Close
  End With
  rst.Close
  
  Set fld = Nothing
  Set rstAdd = Nothing
  Set rst = Nothing
  Set dbs = Nothing
  
End Function

</code>

Of course, you will need to refine this for compound indices, other unique indices, OLE fields, default values etc. Also add error handling.

/gustav

>>> bchacc at san.rr.com 15-11-2006 02:11 >>>

Dear List:

Is there a quick or slick or elegant way to copy a record in a table to a
new record in the same table - just duplicating a record  

I've done it using DAO and cycling through the fields and creating the new
record and adding it but that seems awfully crude. 

MTIA
Rocky




From andy at minstersystems.co.uk  Wed Nov 15 05:50:16 2006
From: andy at minstersystems.co.uk (Andy Lacey)
Date: Wed, 15 Nov 2006 11:50:16 +0000
Subject: [AccessD] Useful Lists
Message-ID: <20061115115021.F331086DFE@smtp.nildram.co.uk>

I agree but I wonder, with the frequently changing lists, if having found
such a list and decided it changes too often you might document where to go
for the latest info.

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--------- Original Message --------
From: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving"
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
To: "accessd at databaseadvisors.com" <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Useful Lists
Date: 15/11/06 10:21


Hi Arthur

You have a point here - note the previous message from Max about the
outdated info for the BKK airport.

/gustav

>>> artful at rogers.com 15-11-2006 07:43 >>>
I will spend some time turning some of these into Access databases. These
can easily be ported to any other database such as MS-SQL or Oracle or
Sybase, etc. I admit that I have no idea what some of these designations
mean (FedACH for example), but I'll look at the site and import what I can.

I just glanced at the site, and it raises an interesting question. Perhaps
it is pointless to grab rapidly changing lists, since by definition they
require frequent refreshment. The list of elements, or planets, or sexes,
changes relatively infrequently. Maybe we ought to concentrate on
infrequently changing lists and leave the rest to net-lookups?

Arthur

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From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com  Wed Nov 15 06:35:20 2006
From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (JWColby)
Date: Wed, 15 Nov 2006 07:35:20 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Useful Lists
In-Reply-To: <20061115115021.F331086DFE@smtp.nildram.co.uk>
Message-ID: <001501c708b2$84e157f0$e1265b05@m6805>

Along with instructions on getting it? 


John W. Colby
Colby Consulting
www.ColbyConsulting.com

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Andy Lacey
Sent: Wednesday, November 15, 2006 6:50 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Useful Lists

I agree but I wonder, with the frequently changing lists, if having found
such a list and decided it changes too often you might document where to go
for the latest info.

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--------- Original Message --------
From: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving"
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
To: "accessd at databaseadvisors.com" <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Useful Lists
Date: 15/11/06 10:21


Hi Arthur

You have a point here - note the previous message from Max about the
outdated info for the BKK airport.

/gustav

>>> artful at rogers.com 15-11-2006 07:43 >>>
I will spend some time turning some of these into Access databases. These
can easily be ported to any other database such as MS-SQL or Oracle or
Sybase, etc. I admit that I have no idea what some of these designations
mean (FedACH for example), but I'll look at the site and import what I can.

I just glanced at the site, and it raises an interesting question. Perhaps
it is pointless to grab rapidly changing lists, since by definition they
require frequent refreshment. The list of elements, or planets, or sexes,
changes relatively infrequently. Maybe we ought to concentrate on
infrequently changing lists and leave the rest to net-lookups?

Arthur

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From bheid at appdevgrp.com  Wed Nov 15 06:41:44 2006
From: bheid at appdevgrp.com (Bobby Heid)
Date: Wed, 15 Nov 2006 07:41:44 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Copy a record in a table
In-Reply-To: <916187228923D311A6FE00A0CC3FAA30E6FBB1@ADGSERVER>
Message-ID: <916187228923D311A6FE00A0CC3FAA30D35AB5@ADGSERVER>

Rocky,

It will work, but you will have to name all of the fields except for
fldJobMasterID, which will be created with he autonumber.

Bobby

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Beach Access
Software
Sent: Wednesday, November 15, 2006 12:11 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Copy a record in a table


Oops.  My bad.  fldJobMasterID is an the Autonumber PK of tblJobMaster.
Won't work then, will it?

Rocky


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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Stuart McLachlan
Sent: Tuesday, November 14, 2006 8:24 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Copy a record in a table

On 14 Nov 2006 at 20:08, Beach Access Software wrote:

> Stuart:
> 
> I'm using
>         db.Execute "INSERT INTO tblJobMaster SELECT tblJobMaster.* FROM
> tblJobMaster " _
>      & "WHERE fldJobMasterID = " & rstJobMasterEquipmentIn!fldJobMasterID
> 
> But I get the cryptic 'Too few parameters.  Expected 1'.  Can you see what
> I'm doing wrong?

WHile developing, try using

strSQL = .....
Docmd.RunSQL strSQL
instead of .Execute.

You get much more helpful error messages that way.

Just a WAG but  is fldJobMasterID a PK or constrained to being unique?

Creating a new record like this, you are trying to create another record in
the table with ALL of the fields the same, including any 
unique fields,PK or otherwise.  (You did ask originally to "duplicate" a
record in a table) 



From Gustav at cactus.dk  Wed Nov 15 06:45:40 2006
From: Gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Wed, 15 Nov 2006 13:45:40 +0100
Subject: [AccessD] MS Office SharePoint 2007 book on-line
Message-ID: <s55b1a1a.083@cactus.dk>

Hi all

The 236 page pdf book

7 Development Projects for Microsoft Office SharePoint Server 2007 and Windows SharePoint Services Version 3.0

is for download:

http://go.microsoft.com/?linkid=5775684

/gustav



From prodevmg at yahoo.com  Wed Nov 15 08:09:26 2006
From: prodevmg at yahoo.com (Lonnie Johnson)
Date: Wed, 15 Nov 2006 06:09:26 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [AccessD] Control which record shows at top of subform
Message-ID: <20061115140926.55903.qmail@web33114.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

I have a subform and have buttons that navigate to certain records. Sometimes when the requested record is located it appears in the middle of the subform.

I have the subform sized to show a certain amount of records at a time and want the "found" record to be at the top of my list.

Is this possible?
 








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From dwaters at usinternet.com  Wed Nov 15 08:21:40 2006
From: dwaters at usinternet.com (Dan Waters)
Date: Wed, 15 Nov 2006 08:21:40 -0600
Subject: [AccessD] Requirements Development
In-Reply-To: <21386214.1163519689078.JavaMail.root@sniper25>
Message-ID: <002401c708c1$5eef4d40$0200a8c0@danwaters>

Hi Arthur,

It turns out that your link is issue #2 of a six-part requirements 'E-Zine'
published electronically every 2 months by a company called Ravenflow.  It
looks like excellent information!

Sign up for all six issues here:
http://www.ravenflow.com/


You can get issues #1 and #2 here:
http://www.nxtbook.com/nxtbooks/cmp/ddj-ravenflow1/
http://www.nxtbook.com/nxtbooks/cmp/ddj-ravenflow2/

Apparently issue #3 isn't released yet.


Dan Waters

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Subject: [AccessD] Requirements Development

What a timely arrival, given the thread about writing requirements.

http://newsletters.sdmediagroup.com/cgi-bin4/DM/y/h1mC0GGzBY0JSg0ErCM0E1

(You will probably have to register for this, but it's free.)

Arthur




From artful at rogers.com  Wed Nov 15 08:27:03 2006
From: artful at rogers.com (artful at rogers.com)
Date: Wed, 15 Nov 2006 06:27:03 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [AccessD] Useful Lists
Message-ID: <20061115142703.9547.qmail@web88209.mail.re2.yahoo.com>

That was my point, Andy. Such lists might be better served with lookups to web sites.

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Sent: Wednesday, November 15, 2006 6:50:16 AM
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Useful Lists

I agree but I wonder, with the frequently changing lists, if having found
such a list and decided it changes too often you might document where to go
for the latest info.

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To: "accessd at databaseadvisors.com" <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Useful Lists
Date: 15/11/06 10:21


Hi Arthur

You have a point here - note the previous message from Max about the
outdated info for the BKK airport.

/gustav

>>> artful at rogers.com 15-11-2006 07:43 >>>
I will spend some time turning some of these into Access databases. These
can easily be ported to any other database such as MS-SQL or Oracle or
Sybase, etc. I admit that I have no idea what some of these designations
mean (FedACH for example), but I'll look at the site and import what I can.

I just glanced at the site, and it raises an interesting question. Perhaps
it is pointless to grab rapidly changing lists, since by definition they
require frequent refreshment. The list of elements, or planets, or sexes,
changes relatively infrequently. Maybe we ought to concentrate on
infrequently changing lists and leave the rest to net-lookups?

Arthur

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From bchacc at san.rr.com  Wed Nov 15 08:36:40 2006
From: bchacc at san.rr.com (Beach Access Software)
Date: Wed, 15 Nov 2006 06:36:40 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] Copy a record in a table
In-Reply-To: <010e01c70888$cc8e97e0$a20c177d@pcadt>
Message-ID: <002601c708c3$7735adc0$6401a8c0@HAL9005>

A.D.:

Thanks for those routines.  A looks like it will work only if the recordset
is bound to the form? And then will copy the current record? Or will it work
on any table even if it is not the record source?  

I'm not familiar with all those commands but I'll look them up in Help.

Thanks again fro your response.

Best,

Rocky


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of A.D.TEJPAL
Sent: Tuesday, November 14, 2006 11:32 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Copy a record in a table

Rocky,

    Apparently, you are looking for a straightforward method to copy an
existing record to new record in the same table, without having to  bother
with individual field names. It is presumed that the table has autonumber
type primary key.

    Use of an insert statement with wild card for field names looks tempting
and deceptively simple. However, it gets ruled out as the action would
attempt to create a duplicate value in primary key field.

    A rough & ready method involves copying of desired record to clipboard
and then pasting it on to the new record. This works smoothly, without
attracting any error on a/c of attempted duplication of primary key value.
Instead, correct autoonumber gets automatically  assigned to the newly
pasted record, over-ruling the PK value in clipboard. Sample sub-routine
named P_CopyRecordToNew(), as given at (A) below, demonstrates this
approach.

    For ready reference, sample sub-routine P_InsertRecordCopy(), as given
at (B) below, represents a more formal approach for accomplishing the same
task.

    Once you put these subs in a general module, invoking the one at (B)
should be equally convenient as the one at (A). Eventually, you might prefer
the one at (B).

Best wishes,
A.D.Tejpal
---------------

A) Copy existing record to new record in same table
     (Rough & Ready method)
==================================
Sub P_CopyRecordToNew(ByVal TableName _
                    As String, ByVal PkName As String, _
                    ByVal PkNum As Long)
    DoCmd.OpenTable TableName
    DoCmd.GoToControl PkName
    DoCmd.FindRecord PkNum
    DoCmd.RunCommand acCmdSelectRecord
    DoCmd.RunCommand acCmdCopy
    DoCmd.GoToRecord , , acNewRec
    DoCmd.RunCommand acCmdPaste
    DoCmd.Close acTable, TableName, acSaveYes
End Sub
==================================

B) Copy existing record to new record in same table
     (Formal method)
==================================
Sub P_InsertRecordCopy(ByVal TableName _
                    As String, ByVal PkName As String, _
                    ByVal PkNum As Long)
    Dim Qst As String, FieldList As String
    Dim fd As Field
    Dim db As DAO.Database
    
    Set db = DBEngine(0)(0)
    FieldList = ""
    For Each fd In db.TableDefs(TableName).Fields
        If fd.Name <> PkName Then
            FieldList = FieldList & _
                            IIf(Len(FieldList) > 0, _
                            ", ", "") & fd.Name
        End If
    Next
    
    Qst = "Insert Into " & TableName & " (" & _
            FieldList & ") Select " & FieldList & _
            " From " & TableName & " Where " & _
            PkName & " = " & PkNum & ";"
    db.Execute Qst, dbFailOnError
    
    Set fd = Nothing
    Set db = Nothing
End Sub
==================================

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  From: Beach Access Software 
  To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' 
  Sent: Wednesday, November 15, 2006 06:41
  Subject: [AccessD] Copy a record in a table

  Dear List: 

  Is there a quick or slick or elegant way to copy a record in a table to a
  new record in the same table - just duplicating a record 

  I've done it using DAO and cycling through the fields and creating the new
record and adding it but that seems awfully crude.  

  MTIA 

  Rocky
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From bchacc at san.rr.com  Wed Nov 15 08:42:47 2006
From: bchacc at san.rr.com (Beach Access Software)
Date: Wed, 15 Nov 2006 06:42:47 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] Copy a record in a table
In-Reply-To: <s55b01f8.082@cactus.dk>
Message-ID: <002701c708c4$5182fe60$6401a8c0@HAL9005>

G:

I'm a big DAO fan.  Do lots of little things with it.  So I love the
routine.  My approach on this one, since there were only five fields in the
table was to Dim a variable for each field, put the values in the variables,
do an .AddNew, and copy the variables into the new records fields.  That's
crude!  Yours isn't.

Best,

Rocky


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gustav Brock
Sent: Wednesday, November 15, 2006 3:03 AM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Copy a record in a table

Hi Rocky

Crude? How come? DAO is normally the fastest method to add a record to a
recordset.
Here's a basic function:

<code>

Public Function CopyRecord( _
  ByVal strTable As String, _
  ByVal strId As String, _
  ByVal lngId As Long) _
  As Boolean

  Dim dbs     As DAO.Database
  Dim rst     As DAO.Recordset
  Dim rstAdd  As DAO.Recordset
  Dim fld     As DAO.Field
  Dim strFld  As String
  
  Set dbs = CurrentDb
  Set rst = dbs.OpenRecordset("Select * From " & strTable & " Where " &
strId & "=" & lngId & ";")
  Set rstAdd = dbs.OpenRecordset("Select Top 1 * From " & strTable & ";")
  
  With rstAdd
    .AddNew
      For Each fld In rstAdd.Fields
        With fld
          strFld = .Name
          If Not strFld = strId Then
            .Value = rst.Fields(strFld).Value
          End If
        End With
      Next
    .Update
    .Close
  End With
  rst.Close
  
  Set fld = Nothing
  Set rstAdd = Nothing
  Set rst = Nothing
  Set dbs = Nothing
  
End Function

</code>

Of course, you will need to refine this for compound indices, other unique
indices, OLE fields, default values etc. Also add error handling.

/gustav

>>> bchacc at san.rr.com 15-11-2006 02:11 >>>

Dear List:

Is there a quick or slick or elegant way to copy a record in a table to a
new record in the same table - just duplicating a record  

I've done it using DAO and cycling through the fields and creating the new
record and adding it but that seems awfully crude. 

MTIA
Rocky


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From ewaldt at gdls.com  Wed Nov 15 08:58:53 2006
From: ewaldt at gdls.com (ewaldt at gdls.com)
Date: Wed, 15 Nov 2006 09:58:53 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Filling in the CrossTab Help Request
In-Reply-To: <mailman.14025.1163521322.17650.accessd@databaseadvisors.com>
Message-ID: <OFCC069621.8FF91A60-ON85257227.00521FF0-85257227.005279C9@is002023.gdls.com>

I have a table with steps numbering 1 to 24; those numbers are shown as 
column headers in the crosstab. My crosstab only shows those columns for 
which there is data, of course. Is there a way to adapt it to show all 24 
numbers, even if the columns are empty of data? 

TIA.

Thomas F. Ewald
FCS Database Manager
General Dynamics Land Systems
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From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com  Wed Nov 15 09:19:30 2006
From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (JWColby)
Date: Wed, 15 Nov 2006 10:19:30 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Control which record shows at top of subform
In-Reply-To: <20061115140926.55903.qmail@web33114.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <001e01c708c9$73208bf0$e1265b05@m6805>

The short answer is not easily.

If somebody here provides a solution I too will be smiling!

John W. Colby
Colby Consulting
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[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Lonnie Johnson
Sent: Wednesday, November 15, 2006 9:09 AM
To: AccessD solving'
Subject: [AccessD] Control which record shows at top of subform

I have a subform and have buttons that navigate to certain records.
Sometimes when the requested record is located it appears in the middle of
the subform.

I have the subform sized to show a certain amount of records at a time and
want the "found" record to be at the top of my list.

Is this possible?
 








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From andy at minstersystems.co.uk  Wed Nov 15 09:21:09 2006
From: andy at minstersystems.co.uk (Andy Lacey)
Date: Wed, 15 Nov 2006 15:21:09 +0000
Subject: [AccessD] Useful Lists
Message-ID: <20061115152113.C2A0B5582F@smtp.nildram.co.uk>

Oh yeah I see that now when I reread your post. Sorry Arthur.

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To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving"
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Useful Lists
Date: 15/11/06 14:28


That was my point, Andy. Such lists might be better served with lookups to
web sites.

----- Original Message ----
From: Andy Lacey <andy at minstersystems.co.uk>
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Wednesday, November 15, 2006 6:50:16 AM
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Useful Lists

I agree but I wonder, with the frequently changing lists, if having found
such a list and decided it changes too often you might document where to go
for the latest info.

--
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http://www.minstersystems.co.uk




--------- Original Message --------
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<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
To: "accessd at databaseadvisors.com" <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Useful Lists
Date: 15/11/06 10:21


Hi Arthur

You have a point here - note the previous message from Max about the
outdated info for the BKK airport.

/gustav

>>> artful at rogers.com 15-11-2006 07:43 >>>
I will spend some time turning some of these into Access databases. These
can easily be ported to any other database such as MS-SQL or Oracle or
Sybase, etc. I admit that I have no idea what some of these designations
mean (FedACH for example), but I'll look at the site and import what I can.

I just glanced at the site, and it raises an interesting question. Perhaps
it is pointless to grab rapidly changing lists, since by definition they
require frequent refreshment. The list of elements, or planets, or sexes,
changes relatively infrequently. Maybe we ought to concentrate on
infrequently changing lists and leave the rest to net-lookups?

Arthur

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From Lambert.Heenan at AIG.com  Wed Nov 15 09:22:42 2006
From: Lambert.Heenan at AIG.com (Heenan, Lambert)
Date: Wed, 15 Nov 2006 10:22:42 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Filling in the CrossTab Help Request
Message-ID: <34C8A2AB1EF3564CB0D64DB6AFFDD5C222E082@xlivmbx35.aig.com>

Sure.

Open the Crosstab query in design mode. On the property sheet you will find
a "Column Headings" property. Just fill this with a list of your columns ...

"Qtr 1", "Qtr 2", "Qtr 3", "Qtr 4"

... then you will always have all columns reported, and in the order you
specify.

HTH


Lambert

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Sent: Wednesday, November 15, 2006 9:59 AM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [AccessD] Filling in the CrossTab Help Request


I have a table with steps numbering 1 to 24; those numbers are shown as 
column headers in the crosstab. My crosstab only shows those columns for 
which there is data, of course. Is there a way to adapt it to show all 24 
numbers, even if the columns are empty of data? 

TIA.

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FCS Database Manager
General Dynamics Land Systems
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From gjgiever at myway.com  Wed Nov 15 09:40:31 2006
From: gjgiever at myway.com (Gary J. Giever)
Date: Wed, 15 Nov 2006 10:40:31 -0500 (EST)
Subject: [AccessD] Open a database
Message-ID: <20061115154031.23AFF757F9@mprdmxin.myway.com>


This is frustrating.  All I want to do is open another database from the currently open database.  The code is like the help examples:

Dim dbMyDB As Database
Dim strDBName As String
strDBName = "C:\My Documents\ClientMasterUpdate.mdb"
Set dbMyDB = DBEngine.Workspaces(0).OpenDatabase(strDBName)

But nothing happens.  What am I missing?


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From reuben at gfconsultants.com  Wed Nov 15 09:54:05 2006
From: reuben at gfconsultants.com (Reuben Cummings)
Date: Wed, 15 Nov 2006 10:54:05 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Control which record shows at top of subform
In-Reply-To: <001e01c708c9$73208bf0$e1265b05@m6805>
Message-ID: <DPEKLCIHBOJKCKJECLCPIEFHECAA.reuben@gfconsultants.com>

There's a difference between being at the top of the list and being "shown"
at the top of the list.

I've set up some continuous forms that upon opening highlight the line that
corresponds to today's date.  It doesn't put that line at the top of the
list, but it does "look" like it's the top of the list.  I do this by
running thru the recordset until I find the record I want and then set the
bookmark to that record and refresh the form.

If you actually want it at the top could you add a field to the table and
use it as a "marker"?  When you find what should be the first record set the
record to 0 and all the other records in this recordset = 1.  Sort ascending
and you now have the appropriate record at the top.  You could do all this
using the recordsetclone.

I have never tried the second option - it's just an idea.

Reuben Cummings
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> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of JWColby
> Sent: Wednesday, November 15, 2006 10:20 AM
> To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] Control which record shows at top of subform
>
>
> The short answer is not easily.
>
> If somebody here provides a solution I too will be smiling!
>
> John W. Colby
> Colby Consulting
> www.ColbyConsulting.com
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Lonnie Johnson
> Sent: Wednesday, November 15, 2006 9:09 AM
> To: AccessD solving'
> Subject: [AccessD] Control which record shows at top of subform
>
> I have a subform and have buttons that navigate to certain records.
> Sometimes when the requested record is located it appears in the middle of
> the subform.
>
> I have the subform sized to show a certain amount of records at a time and
> want the "found" record to be at the top of my list.
>
> Is this possible?
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> May God bless you beyond your imagination!
> Lonnie Johnson
> ProDev, Professional Development of MS Access Databases Visit me at ==>
> http://www.prodev.us
>
>
>
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From Lambert.Heenan at AIG.com  Wed Nov 15 09:58:09 2006
From: Lambert.Heenan at AIG.com (Heenan, Lambert)
Date: Wed, 15 Nov 2006 10:58:09 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Open a database
Message-ID: <34C8A2AB1EF3564CB0D64DB6AFFDD5C222E0B9@xlivmbx35.aig.com>

What your code does is create an object (dbMyDB) to point to the external
mdb file. You would then be able to manipulate the tables, queries etc. in
that file via code.

It sounds like you want to actually start up the other database. For that
there are various ways. For example...

Sub OpenAnotherDb()

Dim strDBName As String
Dim dbl_D As Double
Dim strCommandLine As String

        strDBName = "C:\My Documents\ClientMasterUpdate.mdb"
        strCommandLine = Quote(SysCmd(acSysCmdAccessDir) & _
            "MSACCESS.EXE") & " " & Quote(strDBName )
        dbl_D = Shell(strCommandLine, vbNormalFocus)
        Application.Quit acQuitSaveNone ' closes the *current* database
End Sub

Function Quote(aString) As String
    Quote = """" & aString & """"
End Function

HTH

Lambert

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gary J. Giever
Sent: Wednesday, November 15, 2006 10:41 AM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [AccessD] Open a database



This is frustrating.  All I want to do is open another database from the
currently open database.  The code is like the help examples:

Dim dbMyDB As Database
Dim strDBName As String
strDBName = "C:\My Documents\ClientMasterUpdate.mdb"
Set dbMyDB = DBEngine.Workspaces(0).OpenDatabase(strDBName)

But nothing happens.  What am I missing?


Gary J. Giever, M.A.
Applications Developer
ACCMHS

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From cfoust at infostatsystems.com  Wed Nov 15 10:00:44 2006
From: cfoust at infostatsystems.com (Charlotte Foust)
Date: Wed, 15 Nov 2006 08:00:44 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] Open a database
In-Reply-To: <20061115154031.23AFF757F9@mprdmxin.myway.com>
Message-ID: <F55048AF7E974F429BB24597D7355EEA178404@INFOSERVER04.infostat.local>

The code is just a way to open and then manipulate another database from
the current one.  What is it that you want to happen?  If you try to
work with dbMyDB after that line, does it throw an error?   If not, then
it's working. 

Charlotte Foust

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[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gary J.
Giever
Sent: Wednesday, November 15, 2006 7:41 AM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [AccessD] Open a database


This is frustrating.  All I want to do is open another database from the
currently open database.  The code is like the help examples:

Dim dbMyDB As Database
Dim strDBName As String
strDBName = "C:\My Documents\ClientMasterUpdate.mdb"
Set dbMyDB = DBEngine.Workspaces(0).OpenDatabase(strDBName)

But nothing happens.  What am I missing?


Gary J. Giever, M.A.
Applications Developer
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From Jim.Hale at FleetPride.com  Wed Nov 15 10:15:50 2006
From: Jim.Hale at FleetPride.com (Hale, Jim)
Date: Wed, 15 Nov 2006 10:15:50 -0600
Subject: [AccessD] Filling in the CrossTab Help Request
Message-ID: <6A6AA9DF57E4F046BDA1E273BDDB67727DE106@corp-es01.fleetpride.com>

check out p157 of Getz's ADH. He suggests using an IN clause of the form
PIVOT column-headings-field[IN((value1[,value2],...]])]
HTH
Jim Hale

-----Original Message-----
From: ewaldt at gdls.com [mailto:ewaldt at gdls.com]
Sent: Wednesday, November 15, 2006 8:59 AM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [AccessD] Filling in the CrossTab Help Request


I have a table with steps numbering 1 to 24; those numbers are shown as 
column headers in the crosstab. My crosstab only shows those columns for 
which there is data, of course. Is there a way to adapt it to show all 24 
numbers, even if the columns are empty of data? 

TIA.

Thomas F. Ewald
FCS Database Manager
General Dynamics Land Systems
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From rl_stewart at highstream.net  Wed Nov 15 10:29:44 2006
From: rl_stewart at highstream.net (Robert L. Stewart)
Date: Wed, 15 Nov 2006 10:29:44 -0600
Subject: [AccessD] Useful Lists
In-Reply-To: <mailman.14885.1163600827.17650.accessd@databaseadvisors.co
 m>
References: <mailman.14885.1163600827.17650.accessd@databaseadvisors.com>
Message-ID: <200611151630.kAFGU6q12304@databaseadvisors.com>

Oh Well,

I tried their postal code web service for the USA.
Mine is 77418.  The area code changed over 5 years
ago from 409 to 979.  Their service is still returning
409 as the area code.

Are they maintaining the data?  If not, what use is
a bad list of data?

I am willing to host the databases in SQL Server for
all to connect to for the data.  As long as we all
behave and keep the list up to date as well as not
put junk into them.  I have a couple, like the postal
code list, some of the ISO standards lists for country
codes, SIC and NAICS code, and so on that I can start
it with it any one else is interested.  I also have some
of the TIGER data tables for the USA.

Robert

At 08:27 AM 11/15/2006, you wrote:
>Date: Tue, 14 Nov 2006 21:08:15 -0800
>From: MartyConnelly <martyconnelly at shaw.ca>
>Subject: Re: [AccessD] Useful Lists
>To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
>         <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
>Message-ID: <455AA0BF.7050407 at shaw.ca>
>Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed
>
>In addition to lists there are public web services that provide things like
>those listed below from places like
>http://www.webservicex.net/WS/default.aspx




From dwaters at usinternet.com  Wed Nov 15 10:29:45 2006
From: dwaters at usinternet.com (Dan Waters)
Date: Wed, 15 Nov 2006 10:29:45 -0600
Subject: [AccessD] Control which record shows at top of subform
In-Reply-To: <21949219.1163605192781.JavaMail.root@sniper5>
Message-ID: <003f01c708d3$4388d0f0$0200a8c0@danwaters>

Hi Lonnie,

Long ago I found code to do this from a site somewhere.  I'll post it here.
I haven't used it but you may be able to.

---------------------------------------------------------------------

Option Compare Database
Option Explicit

Private Const GWL_STYLE = (-16)

' GetWindow() Constants
Private Const GW_HWNDNEXT = 2
Private Const GW_CHILD = 5

' Scroll Bar Constants
Private Const SB_HORZ = 0
Private Const SB_CTL = 2
Private Const SB_VERT = 1

' ScrollInfo fMask's
Private Const SIF_RANGE = &H1
Private Const SIF_PAGE = &H2
Private Const SIF_POS = &H4
Private Const SIF_DISABLENOSCROLL = &H8
Private Const SIF_TRACKPOS = &H10
Private Const SIF_ALL = (SIF_RANGE Or SIF_PAGE Or SIF_POS Or SIF_TRACKPOS)

' Scroll Bar Styles
Private Const SBS_HORZ = &H0&
Private Const SBS_VERT = &H1&

Private Declare Function apiGetScrollInfo Lib "user32" Alias "GetScrollInfo"
(ByVal hwnd As Long, ByVal n As Long, lpScrollInfo As SCROLLINFO) As Long
Private Declare Function apiGetWindow Lib "user32" Alias "GetWindow" (ByVal
hwnd As Long, ByVal wCmd As Long) As Long
Private Declare Function apiGetWindowLong Lib "user32" Alias
"GetWindowLongA" (ByVal hwnd As Long, ByVal nIndex As Long) As Long
Private Declare Function apiGetClassName Lib "user32" Alias "GetClassNameA"
(ByVal hwnd As Long, ByVal lpClassName As String, ByVal nMaxCount As Long)
As Long

Private Type SCROLLINFO
    cbSize As Long
    fMask As Long
    nMin As Long
    nMax As Long
    nPage As Long
    nPos As Long
    nTrackPos As Long
End Type

Public Function GetScrollBarPosition(frm As Form) As Long
On Error GoTo EH

    ' Return ScrollBar Thumb position for the Vertical Scrollbar attached to
the Form passed to this Function.

    Dim hWndSB As Long
    Dim lngRet As Long
    Dim sinfo As SCROLLINFO

    '-- Init SCROLLINFO structure
    sinfo.fMask = SIF_ALL
    sinfo.cbSize = Len(sinfo)
    sinfo.nPos = 0
    sinfo.nTrackPos = 0

    '-- Call function to get handle to
    '-- ScrollBar control if it is visible
    hWndSB = IsScrollBar(frm)
    If hWndSB = -1 Then
        GetScrollBarPosition = False
        Exit Function
    End If

    '-- Get the window's ScrollBar position
    lngRet = apiGetScrollInfo(hWndSB, SB_CTL, sinfo)
    GetScrollBarPosition = sinfo.nPos + 1

    Exit Function

EH:
    Application.Echo True

End Function

Private Function IsScrollBar(frm As Form) As Long
On Error GoTo EH

    Dim hWnd_VSB As Long
    Dim hwnd As Long

    '-- Get ScrollBar's hWnd
    hwnd = frm.hwnd

    '-- Get first Child Window of the FORM
    hWnd_VSB = apiGetWindow(hwnd, GW_CHILD)

    '-- Walk through every sibling window of the Form
    Do
        If GetClassName(hWnd_VSB) = "scrollBar" Then
            If apiGetWindowLong(hWnd_VSB, GWL_STYLE) And SBS_VERT Then
                IsScrollBar = hWnd_VSB
                Exit Function
            End If
        End If

        '-- Get the NEXT SIBLING Window
        hWnd_VSB = apiGetWindow(hWnd_VSB, GW_HWNDNEXT)

        '-- Start the process from the Top again
        '-- Really just an error check
    Loop While hWnd_VSB <> 0

    '-- If no vertical ScrollBar control is currently visible for this Form
then
    IsScrollBar = -1

    Exit Function

EH:
    Application.Echo True

End Function

Private Function GetClassName(hwnd As Long) As String
On Error GoTo EH

    Dim strBuffer As String
    Dim lngLen As Long

    Const MAX_LEN = 255

    strBuffer = Space$(MAX_LEN)
    lngLen = apiGetClassName(hwnd, strBuffer, MAX_LEN)
    If lngLen > 0 Then
        GetClassName = Left$(strBuffer, lngLen)
    End If

    Exit Function

EH:
    Application.Echo True

End Function

-------------------------------------------------------------------------

Dan Waters


-----Original Message-----
Subject: [AccessD] Control which record shows at top of subform

I have a subform and have buttons that navigate to certain records.
Sometimes when the requested record is located it appears in the middle of
the subform.

I have the subform sized to show a certain amount of records at a time and
want the "found" record to be at the top of my list.

Is this possible?
 








May God bless you beyond your imagination!
Lonnie Johnson
ProDev, Professional Development of MS Access Databases
Visit me at ==> http://www.prodev.us


 
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From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com  Wed Nov 15 10:41:36 2006
From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (JWColby)
Date: Wed, 15 Nov 2006 11:41:36 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Filling in the CrossTab Help Request
In-Reply-To: <6A6AA9DF57E4F046BDA1E273BDDB67727DE106@corp-es01.fleetpride.com>
Message-ID: <001f01c708d4$eb42eff0$e1265b05@m6805>

I do that and it works great.  However if the value of or quantity of these
values change, the in clause has to be manually edited.  Yuk. 


John W. Colby
Colby Consulting
www.ColbyConsulting.com

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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Hale, Jim
Sent: Wednesday, November 15, 2006 11:16 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Filling in the CrossTab Help Request

check out p157 of Getz's ADH. He suggests using an IN clause of the form
PIVOT column-headings-field[IN((value1[,value2],...]])]
HTH
Jim Hale

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From: ewaldt at gdls.com [mailto:ewaldt at gdls.com]
Sent: Wednesday, November 15, 2006 8:59 AM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [AccessD] Filling in the CrossTab Help Request


I have a table with steps numbering 1 to 24; those numbers are shown as
column headers in the crosstab. My crosstab only shows those columns for
which there is data, of course. Is there a way to adapt it to show all 24
numbers, even if the columns are empty of data? 

TIA.

Thomas F. Ewald
FCS Database Manager
General Dynamics Land Systems
(586) 276-1256





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From markamatte at hotmail.com  Wed Nov 15 11:11:10 2006
From: markamatte at hotmail.com (Mark A Matte)
Date: Wed, 15 Nov 2006 17:11:10 +0000
Subject: [AccessD] Carry Forward in a query
In-Reply-To: <F1DD538AE6BCE74EBE562DE51564D32202246A05@houexch1.kindermorgan.com>
Message-ID: <BAY127-F388AEC4E6ECD50CC860A45D2EA0@phx.gbl>

Chester,

Just out of curiosity...why does it have to be a query and not code?...and 
in this scenario could call a custom function from the query?

Just curious,

Mark A. Matte


>From: "Kaup, Chester" <Chester_Kaup at kindermorgan.com>
>Reply-To: Access Developers discussion and problem 
>solving<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
>To: "Access Developers discussion and problem 
>solving"<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
>Subject: Re: [AccessD] Carry Forward in a query
>Date: Tue, 14 Nov 2006 16:40:39 -0600
>
>Here is what I have now. One table with dates and one table like below.
>Query SQL as below. This works great.
>
>SELECT T_PriceCurrent.SDate,
>(Select Price from T_PriceIndex as T1 where T1.SDate=(Select Max(SDate)
>from T_PriceIndex AS T2 where T2.SDate<=T_PriceCurrent.SDate))
>AS PriceCurrent
>FROM T_PriceCurrent;
>
>SDate		Price
>1/1/2005	8.56
>1/23/2005	8.73
>2/14/2005	8.40
>3/1/2005	8.00
>3/12/2005	8.45
>3/27/2005	8.95
>4/7/2005	8.12
>4/30/2005	7.95
>5/14/2005	8.03
>5/27/2005	8.24
>6/10/2005	9.03
>6/25/2005	9.17
>7/3/2005	9.25
>7/27/2005	9.40
>8/3/2005	9.64
>
>What I cannot figure how to do is make it work if table looks like
>below. I need output for each Pattern.
>Pattern	SDate	Price
>1	1/1/2005	8.56
>1	1/23/2005	8.73
>1	2/14/2005	8.40
>1	3/1/2005	8.00
>1	3/12/2005	8.45
>1	3/27/2005	8.95
>1	4/7/2005	8.12
>1	4/30/2005	7.95
>1	5/14/2005	8.03
>1	5/27/2005	8.24
>1	6/10/2005	9.03
>1	6/25/2005	9.17
>1	7/3/2005	9.25
>1	7/27/2005	9.40
>1	8/3/2005	9.64
>2	1/7/2005	8.27
>2	1/24/2005	8.71
>2	2/13/2005	8.35
>2	3/2/2005	8.02
>2	3/13/2005	8.44
>2	3/28/2005	8.93
>2	4/6/2005	8.10
>2	4/28/2005	7.98
>2	5/15/2005	8.05
>2	5/25/2005	8.20
>2	6/9/2005	9.00
>2	6/20/2005	9.15
>2	7/1/2005	9.23
>2	7/25/2005	9.35
>2	8/4/2005	9.65
>2	8/15/2005	9.50
>
>Thanks for any ideas.
>
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>[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Hale, Jim
>Sent: Tuesday, November 14, 2006 3:59 PM
>To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
>Subject: Re: [AccessD] Carry Forward in a query
>
>If I understand what you want to do, I have done this with a non
>cartesian
>join. I create a table with a one field record and  one record for each
>date. In the query window I place this table and the table with the
>record
>you want to duplicate WITHOUT ANY JOIN. the resulting data set produces
>one
>record for each date. HTH
>Jim Hale
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Kaup, Chester [mailto:Chester_Kaup at kindermorgan.com]
>Sent: Tuesday, November 14, 2006 3:13 PM
>To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
>Subject: [AccessD] Carry Forward in a query
>
>
>I have a table of data that has a record about every 6 months. I would
>like to generate a record for every month using the previous months data
>until there is data for the current records month. I can do this in code
>but had a coworker ask if it could be done in a query. I am not coming
>up with an answer. Your thoughts please.
>
>
>
>Chester Kaup
>
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>
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From ewaldt at gdls.com  Wed Nov 15 11:13:23 2006
From: ewaldt at gdls.com (ewaldt at gdls.com)
Date: Wed, 15 Nov 2006 12:13:23 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Filling in the CrossTab Help Request
In-Reply-To: <34C8A2AB1EF3564CB0D64DB6AFFDD5C222E082@xlivmbx35.aig.com>
Message-ID: <OF725AFDC8.0D0AC8CD-ON85257227.005E8783-85257227.005ECA1B@is002023.gdls.com>

Yup, just like with months, days of the week, etc. I just couldn't 
remember how to do it; it had been a long time since I'd needed to do so.

Thanks for your help.

Thomas F. Ewald
FCS Database Manager
General Dynamics Land Systems
(586) 276-1256






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11/15/2006 10:22 AM

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RE: [AccessD] Filling in the CrossTab Help Request






Sure.

Open the Crosstab query in design mode. On the property sheet you will 
find
a "Column Headings" property. Just fill this with a list of your columns 
...

"Qtr 1", "Qtr 2", "Qtr 3", "Qtr 4"

... then you will always have all columns reported, and in the order you
specify.

HTH


Lambert

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Sent: Wednesday, November 15, 2006 9:59 AM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [AccessD] Filling in the CrossTab Help Request


I have a table with steps numbering 1 to 24; those numbers are shown as 
column headers in the crosstab. My crosstab only shows those columns for 
which there is data, of course. Is there a way to adapt it to show all 24 
numbers, even if the columns are empty of data? 

TIA.

Thomas F. Ewald
FCS Database Manager
General Dynamics Land Systems
(586) 276-1256





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From gjgiever at myway.com  Wed Nov 15 11:28:08 2006
From: gjgiever at myway.com (Gary J. Giever)
Date: Wed, 15 Nov 2006 12:28:08 -0500 (EST)
Subject: [AccessD] Open a database
Message-ID: <20061115172808.453E3757D5@mprdmxin.myway.com>


Yes.  That was what I needed.  I misunderstood what the original code was doing.  

Thank you.


Gary J. Giever, M.A.
Applications Developer
ACCMHS



 --- On Wed 11/15, Heenan, Lambert < Lambert.Heenan at aig.com > wrote:
From: Heenan, Lambert [mailto: Lambert.Heenan at aig.com]
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Date: Wed, 15 Nov 2006 10:58:09 -0500
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Open a database

What your code does is create an object (dbMyDB) to point to the externalmdb file. You would then be able to manipulate the tables, queries etc. inthat file via code.It sounds like you want to actually start up the other database. For thatthere are various ways. For example...Sub OpenAnotherDb()Dim strDBName As StringDim dbl_D As DoubleDim strCommandLine As String        strDBName = "C:\My Documents\ClientMasterUpdate.mdb"        strCommandLine = Quote(SysCmd(acSysCmdAccessDir) & _            "MSACCESS.EXE") & " " & Quote(strDBName )        dbl_D = Shell(strCommandLine, vbNormalFocus)        Application.Quit acQuitSaveNone ' closes the *current* databaseEnd SubFunction Quote(aString) As String    Quote = """" & aString & """"End FunctionHTHLambert-----Original Message-----From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gary J. GieverSent: Wednesday, November 15, 2006 10:41 AMTo: accessd at databaseadvisors.comSubject: 
[AccessD] Open a databaseThis is frustrating.  All I want to do is open another database from thecurrently open database.  The code is like the help examples:Dim dbMyDB As DatabaseDim strDBName As StringstrDBName = "C:\My Documents\ClientMasterUpdate.mdb"Set dbMyDB = DBEngine.Workspaces(0).OpenDatabase(strDBName)But nothing happens.  What am I missing?Gary J. Giever, M.A.Applications DeveloperACCMHS_______________________________________________No banners. No pop-ups. No kidding.Make My Way  your home on the Web - http://www.myway.com-- AccessD mailing listAccessD at databaseadvisors.comhttp://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessdWebsite: http://www.databaseadvisors.com-- AccessD mailing listAccessD at databaseadvisors.comhttp://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessdWebsite: http://www.databaseadvisors.com

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From Chester_Kaup at kindermorgan.com  Wed Nov 15 12:42:36 2006
From: Chester_Kaup at kindermorgan.com (Kaup, Chester)
Date: Wed, 15 Nov 2006 12:42:36 -0600
Subject: [AccessD] Carry Forward in a query
In-Reply-To: <BAY127-F388AEC4E6ECD50CC860A45D2EA0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <F1DD538AE6BCE74EBE562DE51564D322022964B8@houexch1.kindermorgan.com>

A fellow employee who does not write code asked if it could be done. I
am thinking not or certainly not the best way or practical way to go
about doing it. 

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Mark A Matte
Sent: Wednesday, November 15, 2006 11:11 AM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Carry Forward in a query

Chester,

Just out of curiosity...why does it have to be a query and not
code?...and 
in this scenario could call a custom function from the query?

Just curious,

Mark A. Matte


>From: "Kaup, Chester" <Chester_Kaup at kindermorgan.com>
>Reply-To: Access Developers discussion and problem 
>solving<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
>To: "Access Developers discussion and problem 
>solving"<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
>Subject: Re: [AccessD] Carry Forward in a query
>Date: Tue, 14 Nov 2006 16:40:39 -0600
>
>Here is what I have now. One table with dates and one table like below.
>Query SQL as below. This works great.
>
>SELECT T_PriceCurrent.SDate,
>(Select Price from T_PriceIndex as T1 where T1.SDate=(Select Max(SDate)
>from T_PriceIndex AS T2 where T2.SDate<=T_PriceCurrent.SDate))
>AS PriceCurrent
>FROM T_PriceCurrent;
>
>SDate		Price
>1/1/2005	8.56
>1/23/2005	8.73
>2/14/2005	8.40
>3/1/2005	8.00
>3/12/2005	8.45
>3/27/2005	8.95
>4/7/2005	8.12
>4/30/2005	7.95
>5/14/2005	8.03
>5/27/2005	8.24
>6/10/2005	9.03
>6/25/2005	9.17
>7/3/2005	9.25
>7/27/2005	9.40
>8/3/2005	9.64
>
>What I cannot figure how to do is make it work if table looks like
>below. I need output for each Pattern.
>Pattern	SDate	Price
>1	1/1/2005	8.56
>1	1/23/2005	8.73
>1	2/14/2005	8.40
>1	3/1/2005	8.00
>1	3/12/2005	8.45
>1	3/27/2005	8.95
>1	4/7/2005	8.12
>1	4/30/2005	7.95
>1	5/14/2005	8.03
>1	5/27/2005	8.24
>1	6/10/2005	9.03
>1	6/25/2005	9.17
>1	7/3/2005	9.25
>1	7/27/2005	9.40
>1	8/3/2005	9.64
>2	1/7/2005	8.27
>2	1/24/2005	8.71
>2	2/13/2005	8.35
>2	3/2/2005	8.02
>2	3/13/2005	8.44
>2	3/28/2005	8.93
>2	4/6/2005	8.10
>2	4/28/2005	7.98
>2	5/15/2005	8.05
>2	5/25/2005	8.20
>2	6/9/2005	9.00
>2	6/20/2005	9.15
>2	7/1/2005	9.23
>2	7/25/2005	9.35
>2	8/4/2005	9.65
>2	8/15/2005	9.50
>
>Thanks for any ideas.
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Hale, Jim
>Sent: Tuesday, November 14, 2006 3:59 PM
>To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
>Subject: Re: [AccessD] Carry Forward in a query
>
>If I understand what you want to do, I have done this with a non
>cartesian
>join. I create a table with a one field record and  one record for each
>date. In the query window I place this table and the table with the
>record
>you want to duplicate WITHOUT ANY JOIN. the resulting data set produces
>one
>record for each date. HTH
>Jim Hale
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Kaup, Chester [mailto:Chester_Kaup at kindermorgan.com]
>Sent: Tuesday, November 14, 2006 3:13 PM
>To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
>Subject: [AccessD] Carry Forward in a query
>
>
>I have a table of data that has a record about every 6 months. I would
>like to generate a record for every month using the previous months
data
>until there is data for the current records month. I can do this in
code
>but had a coworker ask if it could be done in a query. I am not coming
>up with an answer. Your thoughts please.
>
>
>
>Chester Kaup
>
>Engineering Technician
>
>Kinder Morgan CO2 Company, LLP
>
>Office (432) 688-3797
>
>FAX (432) 688-3799
>
>
>
>
>
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>number of electrons were terribly inconvenienced.
>
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From bheid at appdevgrp.com  Wed Nov 15 13:27:51 2006
From: bheid at appdevgrp.com (Bobby Heid)
Date: Wed, 15 Nov 2006 14:27:51 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Carry Forward in a query
In-Reply-To: <916187228923D311A6FE00A0CC3FAA30E6FC82@ADGSERVER>
Message-ID: <916187228923D311A6FE00A0CC3FAA30D35AB9@ADGSERVER>

It can in SQL Server according to this article:
http://builder.com.com/5100-6388_14-6132748.html?tag=nl.e601

Not sure if it can be done in Access.

Bobby

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Kaup, Chester
Sent: Wednesday, November 15, 2006 1:43 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Carry Forward in a query


A fellow employee who does not write code asked if it could be done. I
am thinking not or certainly not the best way or practical way to go
about doing it. 

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Mark A Matte
Sent: Wednesday, November 15, 2006 11:11 AM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Carry Forward in a query

Chester,

Just out of curiosity...why does it have to be a query and not
code?...and 
in this scenario could call a custom function from the query?

Just curious,

Mark A. Matte


>From: "Kaup, Chester" <Chester_Kaup at kindermorgan.com>
>Reply-To: Access Developers discussion and problem 
>solving<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
>To: "Access Developers discussion and problem 
>solving"<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
>Subject: Re: [AccessD] Carry Forward in a query
>Date: Tue, 14 Nov 2006 16:40:39 -0600
>
>Here is what I have now. One table with dates and one table like below.
>Query SQL as below. This works great.
>
>SELECT T_PriceCurrent.SDate,
>(Select Price from T_PriceIndex as T1 where T1.SDate=(Select Max(SDate)
>from T_PriceIndex AS T2 where T2.SDate<=T_PriceCurrent.SDate))
>AS PriceCurrent
>FROM T_PriceCurrent;
>
>SDate		Price
>1/1/2005	8.56
>1/23/2005	8.73
>2/14/2005	8.40
>3/1/2005	8.00
>3/12/2005	8.45
>3/27/2005	8.95
>4/7/2005	8.12
>4/30/2005	7.95
>5/14/2005	8.03
>5/27/2005	8.24
>6/10/2005	9.03
>6/25/2005	9.17
>7/3/2005	9.25
>7/27/2005	9.40
>8/3/2005	9.64
>
>What I cannot figure how to do is make it work if table looks like
>below. I need output for each Pattern.
>Pattern	SDate	Price
>1	1/1/2005	8.56
>1	1/23/2005	8.73
>1	2/14/2005	8.40
>1	3/1/2005	8.00
>1	3/12/2005	8.45
>1	3/27/2005	8.95
>1	4/7/2005	8.12
>1	4/30/2005	7.95
>1	5/14/2005	8.03
>1	5/27/2005	8.24
>1	6/10/2005	9.03
>1	6/25/2005	9.17
>1	7/3/2005	9.25
>1	7/27/2005	9.40
>1	8/3/2005	9.64
>2	1/7/2005	8.27
>2	1/24/2005	8.71
>2	2/13/2005	8.35
>2	3/2/2005	8.02
>2	3/13/2005	8.44
>2	3/28/2005	8.93
>2	4/6/2005	8.10
>2	4/28/2005	7.98
>2	5/15/2005	8.05
>2	5/25/2005	8.20
>2	6/9/2005	9.00
>2	6/20/2005	9.15
>2	7/1/2005	9.23
>2	7/25/2005	9.35
>2	8/4/2005	9.65
>2	8/15/2005	9.50
>
>Thanks for any ideas.
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Hale, Jim
>Sent: Tuesday, November 14, 2006 3:59 PM
>To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
>Subject: Re: [AccessD] Carry Forward in a query
>
>If I understand what you want to do, I have done this with a non
>cartesian
>join. I create a table with a one field record and  one record for each
>date. In the query window I place this table and the table with the
>record
>you want to duplicate WITHOUT ANY JOIN. the resulting data set produces
>one
>record for each date. HTH
>Jim Hale
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Kaup, Chester [mailto:Chester_Kaup at kindermorgan.com]
>Sent: Tuesday, November 14, 2006 3:13 PM
>To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
>Subject: [AccessD] Carry Forward in a query
>
>
>I have a table of data that has a record about every 6 months. I would
>like to generate a record for every month using the previous months
data
>until there is data for the current records month. I can do this in
code
>but had a coworker ask if it could be done in a query. I am not coming
>up with an answer. Your thoughts please.
>
>
>
>Chester Kaup
>
>Engineering Technician
>
>Kinder Morgan CO2 Company, LLP
>
>Office (432) 688-3797
>
>FAX (432) 688-3799
>
>
>
>
>
>No trees were killed in the sending of this message. However a large
>number of electrons were terribly inconvenienced.
>
>
>
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From accessd at shaw.ca  Wed Nov 15 13:20:47 2006
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Wed, 15 Nov 2006 11:20:47 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] ATA airport list for the DBA list
In-Reply-To: <003201c7079d$33481390$39b82ad1@SUSANONE>
Message-ID: <0J8S00MU4DOCTEF0@l-daemon>

Hi Susan:

I finally figured out what the problem is... If the reading area of the
Browser is less than 640px then the image shifts. Having a screen surface of
1280px, I was blissfully unaware of any issues. I have now reduced the image
to 500px. (Please note: That the DBA web site access log shows no viewers
with screen width of 640px, have viewed the site in a couple of years. The
smallest shown is a width of 1024px.)

I have also removed the insignias from the plane fuselage.

Regards
Jim 

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Susan Harkins
Sent: Monday, November 13, 2006 7:30 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: Re: [AccessD] ATA airport list for the DBA list

Thanks Jim, but what's the big white overlay block just above the airplane?
Is something supposed to be there? 

Susan H. 

Hi All:

Please find on the front page of the DBA web site
(http://www.databaseadvisors.com) access to the ATA airport list as provided
by Art Fuller... Thank you very much Arthur.

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From pedro at plex.nl  Wed Nov 15 13:46:06 2006
From: pedro at plex.nl (Pedro Janssen)
Date: Wed, 15 Nov 2006 20:46:06 +0100
Subject: [AccessD] create cascade combobox
Message-ID: <000a01c708ee$b0cd6d40$4001a8c0@qmotionfaa3ad9>

Hello Group, 

i downloaded the create cascade combobox from Candace trip's database. I can't figure out how to store the data from the cascade selection into a headtable.

I have a headtable in which some records are from lookup table (sub).
I use the subtable to create the cascade comboboxes.
How can i store the data in the headtable?

Thanks

Pedro Janssen

From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com  Wed Nov 15 14:03:42 2006
From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (JWColby)
Date: Wed, 15 Nov 2006 15:03:42 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] 3DFTP API
Message-ID: <003a01c708f1$26ab4e90$e1265b05@m6805>

For anyone using 3DFTP (and I recommend it highly) and need to program to
it, I am building a class that encapsulates all of the methods of the API.
The API works against some unknown thing (the EXE itself I believe).  The
result of which is that late binding is not supported, all you can do is dim
an object, then Create() the instance of 3DFTP.  This means that
intellisense is not available.  For this and other reasons I am building a
class that essentially encapsulates  the coding examples (corrected to
actually work) from the PDF help file.
 
If you want it the class, let me know (offline).  The API is free from their
site and the program is dirt cheap.  I am working on stuff that has to FTP
files up/down and 3dFTP is a very solid tool for this.
 
John W. Colby
Colby Consulting
www.ColbyConsulting.com
 


From Jdemarco at hudsonhealthplan.org  Wed Nov 15 14:07:40 2006
From: Jdemarco at hudsonhealthplan.org (Jim DeMarco)
Date: Wed, 15 Nov 2006 15:07:40 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] OT: Moving Web Server
Message-ID: <0B8880A20E2CF24280FA60901E108FB0243B@TTNEXCHSVR.hshhp.com>

List,

Sorry for the OT but our tech staff is forcing a move of our Intranet
server to a new server machine ASAP.  Current server Windows 2000, new
machine Windows 2003 Server.

Having never lived through a move of this type I'd like to ask you all:
How do we move all of our IIS settings (virtual folders, etc.) to the
new machine?  Are there tools or scripts that we can use to do this?

We've got a number of ASP classic as well as some .NET applications on
the current box that I'm concerned about reconfiguring.

Has anyone done this?  I'd love to hear about what planning I'm going to
need to do in advance and what issues you may have had to overcome.

TIA,

Jim DeMarco
Director of Application Development
Hudson Health Plan
Tarrytown, NY



From Jim.Hale at FleetPride.com  Wed Nov 15 15:09:15 2006
From: Jim.Hale at FleetPride.com (Hale, Jim)
Date: Wed, 15 Nov 2006 15:09:15 -0600
Subject: [AccessD] ATA airport list for the DBA list
Message-ID: <6A6AA9DF57E4F046BDA1E273BDDB67727DE111@corp-es01.fleetpride.com>

Wow you are sure accomodating. At least no one complained it was a Boeing
instead of Airbus ;-)
Jim Hale

-----Original Message-----
From: Jim Lawrence [mailto:accessd at shaw.ca]
Sent: Wednesday, November 15, 2006 1:21 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: Re: [AccessD] ATA airport list for the DBA list


Hi Susan:

I finally figured out what the problem is... If the reading area of the
Browser is less than 640px then the image shifts. Having a screen surface of
1280px, I was blissfully unaware of any issues. I have now reduced the image
to 500px. (Please note: That the DBA web site access log shows no viewers
with screen width of 640px, have viewed the site in a couple of years. The
smallest shown is a width of 1024px.)

I have also removed the insignias from the plane fuselage.

Regards
Jim 

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Susan Harkins
Sent: Monday, November 13, 2006 7:30 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: Re: [AccessD] ATA airport list for the DBA list

Thanks Jim, but what's the big white overlay block just above the airplane?
Is something supposed to be there? 

Susan H. 

Hi All:

Please find on the front page of the DBA web site
(http://www.databaseadvisors.com) access to the ATA airport list as provided
by Art Fuller... Thank you very much Arthur.

Regards

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From martyconnelly at shaw.ca  Wed Nov 15 15:27:03 2006
From: martyconnelly at shaw.ca (MartyConnelly)
Date: Wed, 15 Nov 2006 13:27:03 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] Useful Lists
In-Reply-To: <200611151630.kAFGU6q12304@databaseadvisors.com>
References: <mailman.14885.1163600827.17650.accessd@databaseadvisors.com>
	<200611151630.kAFGU6q12304@databaseadvisors.com>
Message-ID: <455B8627.6040001@shaw.ca>

I tried another free web service and got the same result from 
http://www.xmethods.net
So I guess you get what you pay for like a half hour delay on stock and 
commodity quotes.
I have seen bond service quotes handled via soap and they cost $1000 a 
month.
Even Lat Longs of a zip code centroid may not fall within the zip code
if a center of gravity calculation method is used on a concave polygon.

http://www.mindreef.net/tide/scopeit/start.do?referer=xmethods&url=http://www.tilisoft.com/ws/LocInfo/ZipCode.asmx?WSDL

Robert L. Stewart wrote:

>Oh Well,
>
>I tried their postal code web service for the USA.
>Mine is 77418.  The area code changed over 5 years
>ago from 409 to 979.  Their service is still returning
>409 as the area code.
>
>Are they maintaining the data?  If not, what use is
>a bad list of data?
>
>I am willing to host the databases in SQL Server for
>all to connect to for the data.  As long as we all
>behave and keep the list up to date as well as not
>put junk into them.  I have a couple, like the postal
>code list, some of the ISO standards lists for country
>codes, SIC and NAICS code, and so on that I can start
>it with it any one else is interested.  I also have some
>of the TIGER data tables for the USA.
>
>Robert
>
>At 08:27 AM 11/15/2006, you wrote:
>  
>
>>Date: Tue, 14 Nov 2006 21:08:15 -0800
>>From: MartyConnelly <martyconnelly at shaw.ca>
>>Subject: Re: [AccessD] Useful Lists
>>To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
>>        <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
>>Message-ID: <455AA0BF.7050407 at shaw.ca>
>>Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed
>>
>>In addition to lists there are public web services that provide things like
>>those listed below from places like
>>http://www.webservicex.net/WS/default.aspx
>>    
>>
>
>
>  
>

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Victoria, B.C.
Canada



From lembit.dbamail at t-online.de  Wed Nov 15 15:27:40 2006
From: lembit.dbamail at t-online.de (Lembit Soobik)
Date: Wed, 15 Nov 2006 22:27:40 +0100
Subject: [AccessD] XP-mde on A2003?
References: <mailman.14025.1163521322.17650.accessd@databaseadvisors.com><200611141636.kAEGaAq01765@databaseadvisors.com>
	<001a01c70819$6d7187f0$1800a8c0@s1800>
Message-ID: <001e01c708fc$e13fbce0$1800a8c0@s1800>

it worked

Access 2002 - MDE runs under Access 2003

Lembit

----- Original Message ----- 
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Sent: Tuesday, November 14, 2006 7:19 PM
Subject: Re: [AccessD] XP-mde on A2003?


> Thanks everyone for answering.
> I have made a little A2002 MDE and sent him.
> will let you all know.
>
> Lembit
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Robert L. Stewart" <rl_stewart at highstream.net>
> To: <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
> Cc: <lembit.dbamail at t-online.de>
> Sent: Tuesday, November 14, 2006 5:32 PM
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] XP-mde on A2003?
>
>
>> Lembit,
>>
>> The simple answer is yes, he can run it.
>>
>> Robert
>>
>> At 10:22 AM 11/14/2006, you wrote:
>>>From: Lembit Soobik [mailto:lembit.dbamail at t-online.de]
>>>Sent: Saturday, November 11, 2006 12:23 PM
>>>To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
>>>Subject: [AccessD] XP-mde on A2003?
>>>
>>>Hi everyone,
>>>I have been asked to write an Access db for a friend.
>>>I have Access-XP (2002) on my machine
>>>he has Access 2003
>>>
>>>can he run an mde from me on his machine?
>>>
>>>thank you
>>>Lembit
>>
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From accessd at shaw.ca  Wed Nov 15 15:33:17 2006
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Wed, 15 Nov 2006 13:33:17 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] OT: Moving Web Server
In-Reply-To: <0B8880A20E2CF24280FA60901E108FB0243B@TTNEXCHSVR.hshhp.com>
Message-ID: <0J8S00M6YJT6N4A0@l-daemon>

Hi Jim:

There are some tools out there. When I moved our server it was recommended
that we use one of the free (open-source) products. It did not work so I
spent a number of hours migrating everything manually. One product you can
try is from http://www.adsonline.co.uk/IISExport/.

I would suspect that most of the basic items will move without issue but the
extended items will need some tweaking and manual intervention. 

Even if you have to do parts manually it should not take too long. I moved
70 plus clients' design sites in a couple of hours.

If you need any help you can contact me OL.
 
HTH
Jim

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim DeMarco
Sent: Wednesday, November 15, 2006 12:08 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: [AccessD] OT: Moving Web Server

List,

Sorry for the OT but our tech staff is forcing a move of our Intranet
server to a new server machine ASAP.  Current server Windows 2000, new
machine Windows 2003 Server.

Having never lived through a move of this type I'd like to ask you all:
How do we move all of our IIS settings (virtual folders, etc.) to the
new machine?  Are there tools or scripts that we can use to do this?

We've got a number of ASP classic as well as some .NET applications on
the current box that I'm concerned about reconfiguring.

Has anyone done this?  I'd love to hear about what planning I'm going to
need to do in advance and what issues you may have had to overcome.

TIA,

Jim DeMarco
Director of Application Development
Hudson Health Plan
Tarrytown, NY

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From DWUTKA at marlow.com  Wed Nov 15 17:29:29 2006
From: DWUTKA at marlow.com (DWUTKA at marlow.com)
Date: Wed, 15 Nov 2006 17:29:29 -0600
Subject: [AccessD] OT: Moving Web Server
Message-ID: <17724746D360394AA3BFE5B8D40A9C1B014B1666@MARLOW_MAIN2.marlow.com>

I had to look into this a few years ago, going from a 2000 server to a 2000
server.  Our original Intranet was just a file server, not even using an web
server.  I built a 'new' intranet on my workstation, and hosted it there for
the first several months, as it grew into a function intranet.  After it had
grown it's own wings, we moved it to it's own server.......  at that time
(I'd say it was 2002), there were very few utilities to 'move' a webserver
from one box to another.

That may have changed with 2003.  I ended up just doing it manually.  That
allowed me to also clean up some of the mess from the initial creation, and
organize it a little better.

One possibility would be to use Frontpage to 'copy' the website (I know FP
2003 can do this, never tried with previous versions.....and I don't know if
it will setup all the subwebs or not...)

Drew

-----Original Message-----
From: Jim DeMarco [mailto:Jdemarco at hudsonhealthplan.org] 
Sent: Wednesday, November 15, 2006 2:08 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: [AccessD] OT: Moving Web Server

List,

Sorry for the OT but our tech staff is forcing a move of our Intranet
server to a new server machine ASAP.  Current server Windows 2000, new
machine Windows 2003 Server.

Having never lived through a move of this type I'd like to ask you all:
How do we move all of our IIS settings (virtual folders, etc.) to the
new machine?  Are there tools or scripts that we can use to do this?

We've got a number of ASP classic as well as some .NET applications on
the current box that I'm concerned about reconfiguring.

Has anyone done this?  I'd love to hear about what planning I'm going to
need to do in advance and what issues you may have had to overcome.

TIA,

Jim DeMarco
Director of Application Development
Hudson Health Plan
Tarrytown, NY

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From john at winhaven.net  Wed Nov 15 18:29:26 2006
From: john at winhaven.net (John Bartow)
Date: Wed, 15 Nov 2006 18:29:26 -0600
Subject: [AccessD] XP-mde on A2003?
In-Reply-To: <001e01c708fc$e13fbce0$1800a8c0@s1800>
Message-ID: <200611160029.kAG0TPq14754@databaseadvisors.com>

Lembit,
Thanks for the followup.

John B.

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Lembit Soobik
Sent: Wednesday, November 15, 2006 3:28 PM

it worked

Access 2002 - MDE runs under Access 2003




From john at winhaven.net  Wed Nov 15 18:29:26 2006
From: john at winhaven.net (John Bartow)
Date: Wed, 15 Nov 2006 18:29:26 -0600
Subject: [AccessD] OT: Moving Web Server
In-Reply-To: <17724746D360394AA3BFE5B8D40A9C1B014B1666@MARLOW_MAIN2.marlow.com>
Message-ID: <200611160029.kAG0TSq14783@databaseadvisors.com>

That's a good idea. FP 2k3 can do all the subnets (there's a switch in the
settings for that purpose). It would probably need some tweaking but I would
think the majority of the work would be accomplished for you.

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of DWUTKA at marlow.com
Sent: Wednesday, November 15, 2006 5:29 PM

One possibility would be to use Frontpage to 'copy' the website (I know FP
2003 can do this, never tried with previous versions.....and I don't know if
it will setup all the subwebs or not...)



From artful at rogers.com  Wed Nov 15 19:10:49 2006
From: artful at rogers.com (artful at rogers.com)
Date: Wed, 15 Nov 2006 17:10:49 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [AccessD] Useful Lists
Message-ID: <20061116011049.61581.qmail@web88214.mail.re2.yahoo.com>

>> If not, what use is a bad list of data?

It might disorient terrorists. 





From adtp at airtelbroadband.in  Wed Nov 15 23:06:06 2006
From: adtp at airtelbroadband.in (A.D.TEJPAL)
Date: Thu, 16 Nov 2006 10:36:06 +0530
Subject: [AccessD] Copy a record in a table
References: <002601c708c3$7735adc0$6401a8c0@HAL9005>
Message-ID: <004901c7093d$063dd8c0$8808177d@pcadt>

Rocky,

    Both the sub-routines work directly upon the table in question. There is no dependence upon any form or its recordset. You have only to supply the name of table, name of primary key field and PK value of target record (desired to be copied).

    As suggested earlier, the procedure as per (B) should be preferred as it is far more efficient. It does not require opening of the table. Even a recordset is not required to be opened.

    Note - Sub-routine (A), though not the optimum alternative, had been given merely to demonstrate a direct rough & ready approach as  demanded by you.

Best wishes,
A.D.Tejpal
---------------

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Beach Access Software 
  To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' 
  Sent: Wednesday, November 15, 2006 20:06
  Subject: Re: [AccessD] Copy a record in a table


  A.D.:

  Thanks for those routines.  A looks like it will work only if the recordset is bound to the form? And then will copy the current record? Or will it work on any table even if it is not the record source?  

  I'm not familiar with all those commands but I'll look them up in Help.

  Thanks again fro your response.

  Best,

  Rocky


  -----Original Message-----
  From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
  [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of A.D.TEJPAL
  Sent: Tuesday, November 14, 2006 11:32 PM
  To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
  Subject: Re: [AccessD] Copy a record in a table

  Rocky,

      Apparently, you are looking for a straightforward method to copy an existing record to new record in the same table, without having to  bother with individual field names. It is presumed that the table has autonumber type primary key.

      Use of an insert statement with wild card for field names looks tempting and deceptively simple. However, it gets ruled out as the action would attempt to create a duplicate value in primary key field.

      A rough & ready method involves copying of desired record to clipboard and then pasting it on to the new record. This works smoothly, without attracting any error on a/c of attempted duplication of primary key value. Instead, correct autoonumber gets automatically  assigned to the newly pasted record, over-ruling the PK value in clipboard. Sample sub-routine named P_CopyRecordToNew(), as given at (A) below, demonstrates this approach.

      For ready reference, sample sub-routine P_InsertRecordCopy(), as given at (B) below, represents a more formal approach for accomplishing the same task.

      Once you put these subs in a general module, invoking the one at (B) should be equally convenient as the one at (A). Eventually, you might prefer the one at (B).

  Best wishes,
  A.D.Tejpal
  ---------------

  A) Copy existing record to new record in same table
       (Rough & Ready method)
  ==================================
  Sub P_CopyRecordToNew(ByVal TableName _
                      As String, ByVal PkName As String, _
                      ByVal PkNum As Long)
      DoCmd.OpenTable TableName
      DoCmd.GoToControl PkName
      DoCmd.FindRecord PkNum
      DoCmd.RunCommand acCmdSelectRecord
      DoCmd.RunCommand acCmdCopy
      DoCmd.GoToRecord , , acNewRec
      DoCmd.RunCommand acCmdPaste
      DoCmd.Close acTable, TableName, acSaveYes
  End Sub
  ==================================

  B) Copy existing record to new record in same table
       (Formal method)
  ==================================
  Sub P_InsertRecordCopy(ByVal TableName _
                      As String, ByVal PkName As String, _
                      ByVal PkNum As Long)
      Dim Qst As String, FieldList As String
      Dim fd As Field
      Dim db As DAO.Database
      
      Set db = DBEngine(0)(0)
      FieldList = ""
      For Each fd In db.TableDefs(TableName).Fields
          If fd.Name <> PkName Then
              FieldList = FieldList & _
                              IIf(Len(FieldList) > 0, _
                              ", ", "") & fd.Name
          End If
      Next
      
      Qst = "Insert Into " & TableName & " (" & _
              FieldList & ") Select " & FieldList & _
              " From " & TableName & " Where " & _
              PkName & " = " & PkNum & ";"
      db.Execute Qst, dbFailOnError
      
      Set fd = Nothing
      Set db = Nothing
  End Sub
  ==================================

    ----- Original Message ----- 
    From: Beach Access Software 
    To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' 
    Sent: Wednesday, November 15, 2006 06:41
    Subject: [AccessD] Copy a record in a table

    Dear List: 

    Is there a quick or slick or elegant way to copy a record in a table to a new record in the same table - just duplicating a record 

    I've done it using DAO and cycling through the fields and creating the new record and adding it but that seems awfully crude.  

    MTIA 

    Rocky

From prodevmg at yahoo.com  Wed Nov 15 23:15:37 2006
From: prodevmg at yahoo.com (Lonnie Johnson)
Date: Wed, 15 Nov 2006 21:15:37 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [AccessD] Control which record shows at top of subform
Message-ID: <20061116051537.51786.qmail@web33108.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Thanks guys. The user now just wants to filter the records that are need to show in the subform instead of trying to navigate to them. This is simpler and much easier. Thank anyway.
 








May God bless you beyond your imagination!
Lonnie Johnson
ProDev, Professional Development of MS Access Databases
Visit me at ==> http://www.prodev.us






 



----- Original Message ----
From: Reuben Cummings <reuben at gfconsultants.com>
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Wednesday, November 15, 2006 9:54:05 AM
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Control which record shows at top of subform


There's a difference between being at the top of the list and being "shown"
at the top of the list.

I've set up some continuous forms that upon opening highlight the line that
corresponds to today's date.  It doesn't put that line at the top of the
list, but it does "look" like it's the top of the list.  I do this by
running thru the recordset until I find the record I want and then set the
bookmark to that record and refresh the form.

If you actually want it at the top could you add a field to the table and
use it as a "marker"?  When you find what should be the first record set the
record to 0 and all the other records in this recordset = 1.  Sort ascending
and you now have the appropriate record at the top.  You could do all this
using the recordsetclone.

I have never tried the second option - it's just an idea.

Reuben Cummings
GFC, LLC
812.523.1017


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> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of JWColby
> Sent: Wednesday, November 15, 2006 10:20 AM
> To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] Control which record shows at top of subform
>
>
> The short answer is not easily.
>
> If somebody here provides a solution I too will be smiling!
>
> John W. Colby
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> www.ColbyConsulting.com
>
> -----Original Message-----
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> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Lonnie Johnson
> Sent: Wednesday, November 15, 2006 9:09 AM
> To: AccessD solving'
> Subject: [AccessD] Control which record shows at top of subform
>
> I have a subform and have buttons that navigate to certain records.
> Sometimes when the requested record is located it appears in the middle of
> the subform.
>
> I have the subform sized to show a certain amount of records at a time and
> want the "found" record to be at the top of my list.
>
> Is this possible?
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> May God bless you beyond your imagination!
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From adtp at airtelbroadband.in  Thu Nov 16 00:12:55 2006
From: adtp at airtelbroadband.in (A.D.TEJPAL)
Date: Thu, 16 Nov 2006 11:42:55 +0530
Subject: [AccessD] Carry Forward in a query
References: <F1DD538AE6BCE74EBE562DE51564D32202246A05@houexch1.kindermorgan.
	com>
Message-ID: <001501c70946$67f30910$430b65cb@pcadt>

Chester,

    It is presumed that table T_PriceIndex too has the field named Pattern, with appropriate entries. In such a case, you could try modified SQL as follows:

SELECT T_PriceCurrent.SDate, 
(Select Price from T_PriceIndex as T1 where T1.Pattern = T_PriceCurrent.Pattern And T1.SDate=(Select Max(SDate) 
from T_PriceIndex AS T2 where T2.Pattern = T_PriceCurrent.Pattern And  T2.SDate<=T_PriceCurrent.SDate)) AS PriceCurrent
FROM T_PriceCurrent;

    Caution: Thi is AirCode - The suggested SQL has not been subjected to actual test.

Best wishes,
A.D.Tejpal
---------------

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Kaup, Chester 
  To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving 
  Sent: Wednesday, November 15, 2006 04:10
  Subject: Re: [AccessD] Carry Forward in a query


  Here is what I have now. One table with dates and one table like below.
  Query SQL as below. This works great.

  SELECT T_PriceCurrent.SDate, 
  (Select Price from T_PriceIndex as T1 where T1.SDate=(Select Max(SDate) 
  from T_PriceIndex AS T2 where T2.SDate<=T_PriceCurrent.SDate)) 
  AS PriceCurrent
  FROM T_PriceCurrent;

  SDate Price
  1/1/2005 8.56
  1/23/2005 8.73
  2/14/2005 8.40
  3/1/2005 8.00
  3/12/2005 8.45
  3/27/2005 8.95
  4/7/2005 8.12
  4/30/2005 7.95
  5/14/2005 8.03
  5/27/2005 8.24
  6/10/2005 9.03
  6/25/2005 9.17
  7/3/2005 9.25
  7/27/2005 9.40
  8/3/2005 9.64

  What I cannot figure how to do is make it work if table looks like
  below. I need output for each Pattern.
  Pattern SDate Price
  1 1/1/2005 8.56
  1 1/23/2005 8.73
  1 2/14/2005 8.40
  1 3/1/2005 8.00
  1 3/12/2005 8.45
  1 3/27/2005 8.95
  1 4/7/2005 8.12
  1 4/30/2005 7.95
  1 5/14/2005 8.03
  1 5/27/2005 8.24
  1 6/10/2005 9.03
  1 6/25/2005 9.17
  1 7/3/2005 9.25
  1 7/27/2005 9.40
  1 8/3/2005 9.64
  2 1/7/2005 8.27
  2 1/24/2005 8.71
  2 2/13/2005 8.35
  2 3/2/2005 8.02
  2 3/13/2005 8.44
  2 3/28/2005 8.93
  2 4/6/2005 8.10
  2 4/28/2005 7.98
  2 5/15/2005 8.05
  2 5/25/2005 8.20
  2 6/9/2005 9.00
  2 6/20/2005 9.15
  2 7/1/2005 9.23
  2 7/25/2005 9.35
  2 8/4/2005 9.65
  2 8/15/2005 9.50

  Thanks for any ideas.

  -----Original Message-----
  From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
  [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Hale, Jim
  Sent: Tuesday, November 14, 2006 3:59 PM
  To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
  Subject: Re: [AccessD] Carry Forward in a query

  If I understand what you want to do, I have done this with a non
  cartesian
  join. I create a table with a one field record and  one record for each
  date. In the query window I place this table and the table with the
  record
  you want to duplicate WITHOUT ANY JOIN. the resulting data set produces
  one
  record for each date. HTH
  Jim Hale

  -----Original Message-----
  From: Kaup, Chester [mailto:Chester_Kaup at kindermorgan.com]
  Sent: Tuesday, November 14, 2006 3:13 PM
  To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
  Subject: [AccessD] Carry Forward in a query

  I have a table of data that has a record about every 6 months. I would
  like to generate a record for every month using the previous months data until there is data for the current records month. I can do this in code but had a coworker ask if it could be done in a query. I am not coming up with an answer. Your thoughts please. 

  Chester Kaup


From Gustav at cactus.dk  Thu Nov 16 08:18:21 2006
From: Gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Thu, 16 Nov 2006 15:18:21 +0100
Subject: [AccessD] Copy a record in a table
Message-ID: <s55c815c.003@cactus.dk>

Hi Rocky

Thanks. 
I got the idea that using Clone for opening the second recordset would be faster:

 - from

  Set rst = dbs.OpenRecordset("Select * From " & strTable & " Where " & strId & "=" & lngId & ";")
  Set rstAdd = dbs.OpenRecordset("Select Top 1 * From " & strTable & ";")

 - to

  Set rst = dbs.OpenRecordset("Select * From " & strTable & " Where " & strId & "=" & lngId & ";")
  Set rstAdd = rst.Clone

But it isn't; it runs about 5% slower.
On my 2.2 GHz machine the function runs in less than 20 ms.

/gustav

>>> bchacc at san.rr.com 15-11-2006 15:42 >>>
G:

I'm a big DAO fan.  Do lots of little things with it.  So I love the
routine.  My approach on this one, since there were only five fields in the
table was to Dim a variable for each field, put the values in the variables,
do an .AddNew, and copy the variables into the new records fields.  That's
crude!  Yours isn't.

Best,

Rocky


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com 
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gustav Brock
Sent: Wednesday, November 15, 2006 3:03 AM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com 
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Copy a record in a table

Hi Rocky

Crude? How come? DAO is normally the fastest method to add a record to a
recordset.
Here's a basic function:

<code>

Public Function CopyRecord( _
  ByVal strTable As String, _
  ByVal strId As String, _
  ByVal lngId As Long) _
  As Boolean

  Dim dbs     As DAO.Database
  Dim rst     As DAO.Recordset
  Dim rstAdd  As DAO.Recordset
  Dim fld     As DAO.Field
  Dim strFld  As String
  
  Set dbs = CurrentDb
  Set rst = dbs.OpenRecordset("Select * From " & strTable & " Where " &
strId & "=" & lngId & ";")
  Set rstAdd = dbs.OpenRecordset("Select Top 1 * From " & strTable & ";")
  
  With rstAdd
    .AddNew
      For Each fld In rstAdd.Fields
        With fld
          strFld = .Name
          If Not strFld = strId Then
            .Value = rst.Fields(strFld).Value
          End If
        End With
      Next
    .Update
    .Close
  End With
  rst.Close
  
  Set fld = Nothing
  Set rstAdd = Nothing
  Set rst = Nothing
  Set dbs = Nothing
  
End Function

</code>

Of course, you will need to refine this for compound indices, other unique
indices, OLE fields, default values etc. Also add error handling.

/gustav

>>> bchacc at san.rr.com 15-11-2006 02:11 >>>

Dear List:

Is there a quick or slick or elegant way to copy a record in a table to a
new record in the same table - just duplicating a record  

I've done it using DAO and cycling through the fields and creating the new
record and adding it but that seems awfully crude. 

MTIA
Rocky



From Jdemarco at hudsonhealthplan.org  Thu Nov 16 08:26:37 2006
From: Jdemarco at hudsonhealthplan.org (Jim DeMarco)
Date: Thu, 16 Nov 2006 09:26:37 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] OT: Moving Web Server
Message-ID: <0B8880A20E2CF24280FA60901E108FB0245A@TTNEXCHSVR.hshhp.com>

Thanks Drew and Jim.  I'll look into both of those options.  I wonder if
Dreamweaver will move sites too (I know we have copies of that here). 


Jim

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of
DWUTKA at marlow.com
Sent: Wednesday, November 15, 2006 6:29 PM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: Re: [AccessD] OT: Moving Web Server

I had to look into this a few years ago, going from a 2000 server to a
2000 server.  Our original Intranet was just a file server, not even
using an web server.  I built a 'new' intranet on my workstation, and
hosted it there for the first several months, as it grew into a function
intranet.  After it had grown it's own wings, we moved it to it's own
server.......  at that time (I'd say it was 2002), there were very few
utilities to 'move' a webserver from one box to another.

That may have changed with 2003.  I ended up just doing it manually.
That allowed me to also clean up some of the mess from the initial
creation, and organize it a little better.

One possibility would be to use Frontpage to 'copy' the website (I know
FP
2003 can do this, never tried with previous versions.....and I don't
know if it will setup all the subwebs or not...)

Drew

-----Original Message-----
From: Jim DeMarco [mailto:Jdemarco at hudsonhealthplan.org]
Sent: Wednesday, November 15, 2006 2:08 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: [AccessD] OT: Moving Web Server

List,

Sorry for the OT but our tech staff is forcing a move of our Intranet
server to a new server machine ASAP.  Current server Windows 2000, new
machine Windows 2003 Server.

Having never lived through a move of this type I'd like to ask you all:
How do we move all of our IIS settings (virtual folders, etc.) to the
new machine?  Are there tools or scripts that we can use to do this?

We've got a number of ASP classic as well as some .NET applications on
the current box that I'm concerned about reconfiguring.

Has anyone done this?  I'd love to hear about what planning I'm going to
need to do in advance and what issues you may have had to overcome.

TIA,

Jim DeMarco
Director of Application Development
Hudson Health Plan
Tarrytown, NY

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From GregSmith at starband.net  Thu Nov 16 09:46:02 2006
From: GregSmith at starband.net (Greg Smith)
Date: Thu, 16 Nov 2006 09:46:02 -0600 (CST)
Subject: [AccessD]  Parsing XML as a string?
In-Reply-To: <001501c70946$67f30910$430b65cb@pcadt>
References: <001501c70946$67f30910$430b65cb@pcadt>
Message-ID: <37260.65.118.249.214.1163691962.squirrel@cetus.email.starband.net>

Hi everyone!

Ok...I admit that trying to import that XML file I had directly into
Access may have SEEMED like a good, "easy", idea...at the time...but after
looking around and from the comments here, the idea was...well..it sucked.
 If the XML they were sending to me were compatible then I might have had
a chance...but it's just not feasible.  There actually wasn't any way to
define it using a dtd/xls/xlst within my lifetime, so I'm going to have to
use a different approach.

The files they send as XML are not that large, so I could easily import
them as text, separate out what I need and put it into the required
tables.  However, since they send it as a single string, it becomes harder
to parse it since there are multiple duplicated 'keys' that I need to pull
from it.  And they're not necessarily in the same position all of the
time.

I could import it as a single string into a memo field, but I can't figure
out how to disect a memo field string like that.

When I import it as text, I could break it down at the "<" characters,
importing each one into a separate columns, but I need them in rows, not
columns, to search and find the strings of data I need.

So, in summary, my only two choices (that I can think of) are:

1.  Import the XML as a single string into a memo and somehow parse that
into the data I need.
2.  Import the XML as text, separating it on the "<" characters into
columns, then somehow magically (transpose columns into rows?) transform
that to usable information.

ANY suggestions, short of retirement (although not a bad idea...), would
be GREATLY apprecaited!

Thanks!

Greg Smith





From cfoust at infostatsystems.com  Thu Nov 16 10:30:21 2006
From: cfoust at infostatsystems.com (Charlotte Foust)
Date: Thu, 16 Nov 2006 08:30:21 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] Parsing XML as a string?
In-Reply-To: <37260.65.118.249.214.1163691962.squirrel@cetus.email.starband.net>
Message-ID: <F55048AF7E974F429BB24597D7355EEA178444@INFOSERVER04.infostat.local>

Remind me what version of Access you're using.  ADO is capable to
handling xml files, but you need to have a good idea of the structure
involved.  The line breaks don't really count in an xml file, they're
there for human use.  Can you look at the file in an xml parser?

Charlotte Foust 

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Greg Smith
Sent: Thursday, November 16, 2006 7:46 AM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [AccessD] Parsing XML as a string?

Hi everyone!

Ok...I admit that trying to import that XML file I had directly into
Access may have SEEMED like a good, "easy", idea...at the time...but
after looking around and from the comments here, the idea was...well..it
sucked.
 If the XML they were sending to me were compatible then I might have
had a chance...but it's just not feasible.  There actually wasn't any
way to define it using a dtd/xls/xlst within my lifetime, so I'm going
to have to use a different approach.

The files they send as XML are not that large, so I could easily import
them as text, separate out what I need and put it into the required
tables.  However, since they send it as a single string, it becomes
harder to parse it since there are multiple duplicated 'keys' that I
need to pull from it.  And they're not necessarily in the same position
all of the time.

I could import it as a single string into a memo field, but I can't
figure out how to disect a memo field string like that.

When I import it as text, I could break it down at the "<" characters,
importing each one into a separate columns, but I need them in rows, not
columns, to search and find the strings of data I need.

So, in summary, my only two choices (that I can think of) are:

1.  Import the XML as a single string into a memo and somehow parse that
into the data I need.
2.  Import the XML as text, separating it on the "<" characters into
columns, then somehow magically (transpose columns into rows?) transform
that to usable information.

ANY suggestions, short of retirement (although not a bad idea...), would
be GREATLY apprecaited!

Thanks!

Greg Smith



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From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com  Thu Nov 16 10:32:41 2006
From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (JWColby)
Date: Thu, 16 Nov 2006 11:32:41 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Parsing XML as a string?
In-Reply-To: <37260.65.118.249.214.1163691962.squirrel@cetus.email.starband.net>
Message-ID: <006b01c7099c$d689c610$e1265b05@m6805>

Not having followed the original thread... 

It sounds like a good place for a pair of classes.  One class would hold
each "snippet" based on the < characters.  A parent class would break down
the string into these snippets, load them into the snippet classes and hold
the snippet classes in a collection.  Once the huge string is parsed into
snippets, the parent class can process them by iterating the collection of
snippets doing whatever was required for each snippet.

Once you have processed the snippets, you can write the results out to a
table.

That is obviously a "big picture".

Can you paste a sample of the xml into an email so that I can see it.
Sorry, I wasn't following the original discussion.

John W. Colby
Colby Consulting
www.ColbyConsulting.com

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Greg Smith
Sent: Thursday, November 16, 2006 10:46 AM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [AccessD] Parsing XML as a string?

Hi everyone!

Ok...I admit that trying to import that XML file I had directly into Access
may have SEEMED like a good, "easy", idea...at the time...but after looking
around and from the comments here, the idea was...well..it sucked.
 If the XML they were sending to me were compatible then I might have had a
chance...but it's just not feasible.  There actually wasn't any way to
define it using a dtd/xls/xlst within my lifetime, so I'm going to have to
use a different approach.

The files they send as XML are not that large, so I could easily import them
as text, separate out what I need and put it into the required tables.
However, since they send it as a single string, it becomes harder to parse
it since there are multiple duplicated 'keys' that I need to pull from it.
And they're not necessarily in the same position all of the time.

I could import it as a single string into a memo field, but I can't figure
out how to disect a memo field string like that.

When I import it as text, I could break it down at the "<" characters,
importing each one into a separate columns, but I need them in rows, not
columns, to search and find the strings of data I need.

So, in summary, my only two choices (that I can think of) are:

1.  Import the XML as a single string into a memo and somehow parse that
into the data I need.
2.  Import the XML as text, separating it on the "<" characters into
columns, then somehow magically (transpose columns into rows?) transform
that to usable information.

ANY suggestions, short of retirement (although not a bad idea...), would be
GREATLY apprecaited!

Thanks!

Greg Smith



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From shamil at users.mns.ru  Thu Nov 16 10:36:48 2006
From: shamil at users.mns.ru (Shamil Salakhetdinov)
Date: Thu, 16 Nov 2006 19:36:48 +0300
Subject: [AccessD] Parsing XML as a string?
In-Reply-To: <37260.65.118.249.214.1163691962.squirrel@cetus.email.starband.net>
Message-ID: <000f01c7099d$6970e3f0$6401a8c0@nant>

Hello Greg,

Have a look at this topic's code samples:

http://smsconsulting.spb.ru/shamil_s/topics/xmltests.htm

It can give you idea how to parse your XML file(s) using MS XML Core
Services (installed by default (v.5.x) with MS Office/Access 2003).

For other MS Access/Office versions or for the cases when IE is absent on
target PC MSXML Core Services should be downloaded from here
http://msdn.microsoft.com/XML/XMLDownloads/default.aspx and installed.

--
Shamil
 
-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Greg Smith
Sent: Thursday, November 16, 2006 6:46 PM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [AccessD] Parsing XML as a string?

Hi everyone!

Ok...I admit that trying to import that XML file I had directly into
Access may have SEEMED like a good, "easy", idea...at the time...but after
looking around and from the comments here, the idea was...well..it sucked.
 If the XML they were sending to me were compatible then I might have had
a chance...but it's just not feasible.  There actually wasn't any way to
define it using a dtd/xls/xlst within my lifetime, so I'm going to have to
use a different approach.

The files they send as XML are not that large, so I could easily import
them as text, separate out what I need and put it into the required
tables.  However, since they send it as a single string, it becomes harder
to parse it since there are multiple duplicated 'keys' that I need to pull
from it.  And they're not necessarily in the same position all of the
time.

I could import it as a single string into a memo field, but I can't figure
out how to disect a memo field string like that.

When I import it as text, I could break it down at the "<" characters,
importing each one into a separate columns, but I need them in rows, not
columns, to search and find the strings of data I need.

So, in summary, my only two choices (that I can think of) are:

1.  Import the XML as a single string into a memo and somehow parse that
into the data I need.
2.  Import the XML as text, separating it on the "<" characters into
columns, then somehow magically (transpose columns into rows?) transform
that to usable information.

ANY suggestions, short of retirement (although not a bad idea...), would
be GREATLY apprecaited!

Thanks!

Greg Smith



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From GregSmith at starband.net  Thu Nov 16 11:03:50 2006
From: GregSmith at starband.net (Greg Smith)
Date: Thu, 16 Nov 2006 11:03:50 -0600 (CST)
Subject: [AccessD] Parsing XML as a string?
In-Reply-To: <F55048AF7E974F429BB24597D7355EEA178444@INFOSERVER04.infostat.local>
References: <37260.65.118.249.214.1163691962.squirrel@cetus.email.starband.net>
	<F55048AF7E974F429BB24597D7355EEA178444@INFOSERVER04.infostat.local>
Message-ID: <43938.65.118.249.214.1163696630.squirrel@cetus.email.starband.net>

Charlotte:

I'm using MS Access 2003, but the system where it will be implemented is
Access XP.

I can look at the XML file using XLMSpy Home and it authenticates to a DTD
for validity.  However, Access does not recognize it as a valid type
because it's attribute-centric XML, not element-centric XML (or so I've
been told).  When I import it into Access, it just comes up with a bunch
of empty tables.  When I append to those tables, it just adds another
empty row.  And I was told that the reason for that is because of the
attribute/element issue, which MS talks about in their Tech Support, but
doesn't address this type of XML.

Greg

> Remind me what version of Access you're using.  ADO is capable to
> handling xml files, but you need to have a good idea of the structure
> involved.  The line breaks don't really count in an xml file, they're
> there for human use.  Can you look at the file in an xml parser?
>
> Charlotte Foust
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Greg Smith
> Sent: Thursday, November 16, 2006 7:46 AM
> To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
> Subject: [AccessD] Parsing XML as a string?
>
> Hi everyone!
>
> Ok...I admit that trying to import that XML file I had directly into
> Access may have SEEMED like a good, "easy", idea...at the time...but
> after looking around and from the comments here, the idea was...well..it
> sucked.
>  If the XML they were sending to me were compatible then I might have
> had a chance...but it's just not feasible.  There actually wasn't any
> way to define it using a dtd/xls/xlst within my lifetime, so I'm going
> to have to use a different approach.
>
> The files they send as XML are not that large, so I could easily import
> them as text, separate out what I need and put it into the required
> tables.  However, since they send it as a single string, it becomes
> harder to parse it since there are multiple duplicated 'keys' that I
> need to pull from it.  And they're not necessarily in the same position
> all of the time.
>
> I could import it as a single string into a memo field, but I can't
> figure out how to disect a memo field string like that.
>
> When I import it as text, I could break it down at the "<" characters,
> importing each one into a separate columns, but I need them in rows, not
> columns, to search and find the strings of data I need.
>
> So, in summary, my only two choices (that I can think of) are:
>
> 1.  Import the XML as a single string into a memo and somehow parse that
> into the data I need.
> 2.  Import the XML as text, separating it on the "<" characters into
> columns, then somehow magically (transpose columns into rows?) transform
> that to usable information.
>
> ANY suggestions, short of retirement (although not a bad idea...), would
> be GREATLY apprecaited!
>
> Thanks!
>
> Greg Smith
>
>
>
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From GregSmith at starband.net  Thu Nov 16 11:08:41 2006
From: GregSmith at starband.net (Greg Smith)
Date: Thu, 16 Nov 2006 11:08:41 -0600 (CST)
Subject: [AccessD] Parsing XML as a string?
In-Reply-To: <006b01c7099c$d689c610$e1265b05@m6805>
References: <37260.65.118.249.214.1163691962.squirrel@cetus.email.starband.net>
	<006b01c7099c$d689c610$e1265b05@m6805>
Message-ID: <44328.65.118.249.214.1163696921.squirrel@cetus.email.starband.net>

John:

I sent you a full copy of the XML file offline.

Greg

> Not having followed the original thread...
>
> It sounds like a good place for a pair of classes.  One class would hold
> each "snippet" based on the < characters.  A parent class would break
> down the string into these snippets, load them into the snippet classes
> and hold the snippet classes in a collection.  Once the huge string is
> parsed into snippets, the parent class can process them by iterating the
> collection of snippets doing whatever was required for each snippet.
>
> Once you have processed the snippets, you can write the results out to a
> table.
>
> That is obviously a "big picture".
>
> Can you paste a sample of the xml into an email so that I can see it.
> Sorry, I wasn't following the original discussion.
>
> John W. Colby
> Colby Consulting
> www.ColbyConsulting.com
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Greg Smith
> Sent: Thursday, November 16, 2006 10:46 AM
> To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
> Subject: [AccessD] Parsing XML as a string?
>
> Hi everyone!
>
> Ok...I admit that trying to import that XML file I had directly into
> Access may have SEEMED like a good, "easy", idea...at the time...but
> after looking around and from the comments here, the idea was...well..it
> sucked.
>  If the XML they were sending to me were compatible then I might have
> had a
> chance...but it's just not feasible.  There actually wasn't any way to
> define it using a dtd/xls/xlst within my lifetime, so I'm going to have
> to use a different approach.
>
> The files they send as XML are not that large, so I could easily import
> them as text, separate out what I need and put it into the required
> tables. However, since they send it as a single string, it becomes
> harder to parse it since there are multiple duplicated 'keys' that I
> need to pull from it. And they're not necessarily in the same position
> all of the time.
>
> I could import it as a single string into a memo field, but I can't
> figure out how to disect a memo field string like that.
>
> When I import it as text, I could break it down at the "<" characters,
> importing each one into a separate columns, but I need them in rows, not
> columns, to search and find the strings of data I need.
>
> So, in summary, my only two choices (that I can think of) are:
>
> 1.  Import the XML as a single string into a memo and somehow parse that
> into the data I need.
> 2.  Import the XML as text, separating it on the "<" characters into
> columns, then somehow magically (transpose columns into rows?) transform
> that to usable information.
>
> ANY suggestions, short of retirement (although not a bad idea...), would
> be GREATLY apprecaited!
>
> Thanks!
>
> Greg Smith
>
>
>
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From GregSmith at starband.net  Thu Nov 16 11:20:55 2006
From: GregSmith at starband.net (Greg Smith)
Date: Thu, 16 Nov 2006 11:20:55 -0600 (CST)
Subject: [AccessD] Parsing XML as a string?
In-Reply-To: <000f01c7099d$6970e3f0$6401a8c0@nant>
References: <37260.65.118.249.214.1163691962.squirrel@cetus.email.starband.net>
	<000f01c7099d$6970e3f0$6401a8c0@nant>
Message-ID: <45248.65.118.249.214.1163697655.squirrel@cetus.email.starband.net>

Shamil:

Thanks...I'm looking at it now.  This will take a little closer
examination to see if it will work!

Thanks again.

Greg

> Hello Greg,
>
> Have a look at this topic's code samples:
>
> http://smsconsulting.spb.ru/shamil_s/topics/xmltests.htm
>
> It can give you idea how to parse your XML file(s) using MS XML Core
> Services (installed by default (v.5.x) with MS Office/Access 2003).
>
> For other MS Access/Office versions or for the cases when IE is absent
> on target PC MSXML Core Services should be downloaded from here
> http://msdn.microsoft.com/XML/XMLDownloads/default.aspx and installed.
>
> --
> Shamil
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Greg Smith
> Sent: Thursday, November 16, 2006 6:46 PM
> To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
> Subject: [AccessD] Parsing XML as a string?
>
> Hi everyone!
>
> Ok...I admit that trying to import that XML file I had directly into
> Access may have SEEMED like a good, "easy", idea...at the time...but
> after looking around and from the comments here, the idea was...well..it
> sucked.
>  If the XML they were sending to me were compatible then I might have
> had
> a chance...but it's just not feasible.  There actually wasn't any way to
> define it using a dtd/xls/xlst within my lifetime, so I'm going to have
> to use a different approach.
>
> The files they send as XML are not that large, so I could easily import
> them as text, separate out what I need and put it into the required
> tables.  However, since they send it as a single string, it becomes
> harder to parse it since there are multiple duplicated 'keys' that I
> need to pull from it.  And they're not necessarily in the same position
> all of the time.
>
> I could import it as a single string into a memo field, but I can't
> figure out how to disect a memo field string like that.
>
> When I import it as text, I could break it down at the "<" characters,
> importing each one into a separate columns, but I need them in rows, not
> columns, to search and find the strings of data I need.
>
> So, in summary, my only two choices (that I can think of) are:
>
> 1.  Import the XML as a single string into a memo and somehow parse that
> into the data I need.
> 2.  Import the XML as text, separating it on the "<" characters into
> columns, then somehow magically (transpose columns into rows?) transform
> that to usable information.
>
> ANY suggestions, short of retirement (although not a bad idea...), would
> be GREATLY apprecaited!
>
> Thanks!
>
> Greg Smith
>
>
>
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From cfoust at infostatsystems.com  Thu Nov 16 11:29:53 2006
From: cfoust at infostatsystems.com (Charlotte Foust)
Date: Thu, 16 Nov 2006 09:29:53 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] Parsing XML as a string?
In-Reply-To: <43938.65.118.249.214.1163696630.squirrel@cetus.email.starband.net>
Message-ID: <F55048AF7E974F429BB24597D7355EEA17844C@INFOSERVER04.infostat.local>

Ack!  No wonder you're having problems importing.  I've never tried that
type with Access, only Vb.Net, so I'll leave the rescue to Shamil. LOL

Charlotte Foust 

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Greg Smith
Sent: Thursday, November 16, 2006 9:04 AM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Parsing XML as a string?

Charlotte:

I'm using MS Access 2003, but the system where it will be implemented is
Access XP.

I can look at the XML file using XLMSpy Home and it authenticates to a
DTD for validity.  However, Access does not recognize it as a valid type
because it's attribute-centric XML, not element-centric XML (or so I've
been told).  When I import it into Access, it just comes up with a bunch
of empty tables.  When I append to those tables, it just adds another
empty row.  And I was told that the reason for that is because of the
attribute/element issue, which MS talks about in their Tech Support, but
doesn't address this type of XML.

Greg

> Remind me what version of Access you're using.  ADO is capable to 
> handling xml files, but you need to have a good idea of the structure 
> involved.  The line breaks don't really count in an xml file, they're 
> there for human use.  Can you look at the file in an xml parser?
>
> Charlotte Foust
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Greg Smith
> Sent: Thursday, November 16, 2006 7:46 AM
> To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
> Subject: [AccessD] Parsing XML as a string?
>
> Hi everyone!
>
> Ok...I admit that trying to import that XML file I had directly into 
> Access may have SEEMED like a good, "easy", idea...at the time...but 
> after looking around and from the comments here, the idea 
> was...well..it sucked.
>  If the XML they were sending to me were compatible then I might have 
> had a chance...but it's just not feasible.  There actually wasn't any 
> way to define it using a dtd/xls/xlst within my lifetime, so I'm going

> to have to use a different approach.
>
> The files they send as XML are not that large, so I could easily 
> import them as text, separate out what I need and put it into the 
> required tables.  However, since they send it as a single string, it 
> becomes harder to parse it since there are multiple duplicated 'keys' 
> that I need to pull from it.  And they're not necessarily in the same 
> position all of the time.
>
> I could import it as a single string into a memo field, but I can't 
> figure out how to disect a memo field string like that.
>
> When I import it as text, I could break it down at the "<" characters,

> importing each one into a separate columns, but I need them in rows, 
> not columns, to search and find the strings of data I need.
>
> So, in summary, my only two choices (that I can think of) are:
>
> 1.  Import the XML as a single string into a memo and somehow parse 
> that into the data I need.
> 2.  Import the XML as text, separating it on the "<" characters into 
> columns, then somehow magically (transpose columns into rows?) 
> transform that to usable information.
>
> ANY suggestions, short of retirement (although not a bad idea...), 
> would be GREATLY apprecaited!
>
> Thanks!
>
> Greg Smith
>
>
>
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From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com  Thu Nov 16 11:47:14 2006
From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (JWColby)
Date: Thu, 16 Nov 2006 12:47:14 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Parsing XML as a string?
In-Reply-To: <44328.65.118.249.214.1163696921.squirrel@cetus.email.starband.net>
Message-ID: <007301c709a7$40a51ea0$e1265b05@m6805>

OK, so I assume that you want to get the items, enclosed by < /> where there
are two "values" separated by a space?

You want all of them?
Just specific ones?
Are there more than one of the "big items" defined as the entire thing you
sent me) in a single file?

This looks trivial to parse based on the <> pairs as beginning / ending a
field.  This assumes that neither of these characters are found in the image
data.

I am not intimate with XML, but I thought that XML had <FieldName> data
</FieldName>.  This obviously doesn't.

John W. Colby
Colby Consulting
www.ColbyConsulting.com

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Greg Smith
Sent: Thursday, November 16, 2006 12:09 PM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Parsing XML as a string?

John:

I sent you a full copy of the XML file offline.

Greg

> Not having followed the original thread...
>
> It sounds like a good place for a pair of classes.  One class would 
> hold each "snippet" based on the < characters.  A parent class would 
> break down the string into these snippets, load them into the snippet 
> classes and hold the snippet classes in a collection.  Once the huge 
> string is parsed into snippets, the parent class can process them by 
> iterating the collection of snippets doing whatever was required for each
snippet.
>
> Once you have processed the snippets, you can write the results out to 
> a table.
>
> That is obviously a "big picture".
>
> Can you paste a sample of the xml into an email so that I can see it.
> Sorry, I wasn't following the original discussion.
>
> John W. Colby
> Colby Consulting
> www.ColbyConsulting.com
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Greg Smith
> Sent: Thursday, November 16, 2006 10:46 AM
> To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
> Subject: [AccessD] Parsing XML as a string?
>
> Hi everyone!
>
> Ok...I admit that trying to import that XML file I had directly into 
> Access may have SEEMED like a good, "easy", idea...at the time...but 
> after looking around and from the comments here, the idea 
> was...well..it sucked.
>  If the XML they were sending to me were compatible then I might have 
> had a chance...but it's just not feasible.  There actually wasn't any 
> way to define it using a dtd/xls/xlst within my lifetime, so I'm going 
> to have to use a different approach.
>
> The files they send as XML are not that large, so I could easily 
> import them as text, separate out what I need and put it into the 
> required tables. However, since they send it as a single string, it 
> becomes harder to parse it since there are multiple duplicated 'keys' 
> that I need to pull from it. And they're not necessarily in the same 
> position all of the time.
>
> I could import it as a single string into a memo field, but I can't 
> figure out how to disect a memo field string like that.
>
> When I import it as text, I could break it down at the "<" characters, 
> importing each one into a separate columns, but I need them in rows, 
> not columns, to search and find the strings of data I need.
>
> So, in summary, my only two choices (that I can think of) are:
>
> 1.  Import the XML as a single string into a memo and somehow parse 
> that into the data I need.
> 2.  Import the XML as text, separating it on the "<" characters into 
> columns, then somehow magically (transpose columns into rows?) 
> transform that to usable information.
>
> ANY suggestions, short of retirement (although not a bad idea...), 
> would be GREATLY apprecaited!
>
> Thanks!
>
> Greg Smith
>
>
>
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From cfoust at infostatsystems.com  Thu Nov 16 11:59:46 2006
From: cfoust at infostatsystems.com (Charlotte Foust)
Date: Thu, 16 Nov 2006 09:59:46 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] Parsing XML as a string?
In-Reply-To: <007301c709a7$40a51ea0$e1265b05@m6805>
Message-ID: <F55048AF7E974F429BB24597D7355EEA17844F@INFOSERVER04.infostat.local>

More likely something like this, where the attribute readonly, of the
element dbtype, has a value of "False":

 <dbtype readonly="False">0</dbtype> 

Multiple attributes in the element would be separated by spaces.  Each
element can have 0 to many attributes and they could conceivably vary
from node to node.  Ouch!

Charlotte Foust

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of JWColby
Sent: Thursday, November 16, 2006 9:47 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Parsing XML as a string?

OK, so I assume that you want to get the items, enclosed by < /> where
there are two "values" separated by a space?

You want all of them?
Just specific ones?
Are there more than one of the "big items" defined as the entire thing
you sent me) in a single file?

This looks trivial to parse based on the <> pairs as beginning / ending
a field.  This assumes that neither of these characters are found in the
image data.

I am not intimate with XML, but I thought that XML had <FieldName> data
</FieldName>.  This obviously doesn't.

John W. Colby
Colby Consulting
www.ColbyConsulting.com

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Greg Smith
Sent: Thursday, November 16, 2006 12:09 PM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Parsing XML as a string?

John:

I sent you a full copy of the XML file offline.

Greg

> Not having followed the original thread...
>
> It sounds like a good place for a pair of classes.  One class would 
> hold each "snippet" based on the < characters.  A parent class would 
> break down the string into these snippets, load them into the snippet 
> classes and hold the snippet classes in a collection.  Once the huge 
> string is parsed into snippets, the parent class can process them by 
> iterating the collection of snippets doing whatever was required for 
> each
snippet.
>
> Once you have processed the snippets, you can write the results out to

> a table.
>
> That is obviously a "big picture".
>
> Can you paste a sample of the xml into an email so that I can see it.
> Sorry, I wasn't following the original discussion.
>
> John W. Colby
> Colby Consulting
> www.ColbyConsulting.com
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Greg Smith
> Sent: Thursday, November 16, 2006 10:46 AM
> To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
> Subject: [AccessD] Parsing XML as a string?
>
> Hi everyone!
>
> Ok...I admit that trying to import that XML file I had directly into 
> Access may have SEEMED like a good, "easy", idea...at the time...but 
> after looking around and from the comments here, the idea 
> was...well..it sucked.
>  If the XML they were sending to me were compatible then I might have 
> had a chance...but it's just not feasible.  There actually wasn't any 
> way to define it using a dtd/xls/xlst within my lifetime, so I'm going

> to have to use a different approach.
>
> The files they send as XML are not that large, so I could easily 
> import them as text, separate out what I need and put it into the 
> required tables. However, since they send it as a single string, it 
> becomes harder to parse it since there are multiple duplicated 'keys'
> that I need to pull from it. And they're not necessarily in the same 
> position all of the time.
>
> I could import it as a single string into a memo field, but I can't 
> figure out how to disect a memo field string like that.
>
> When I import it as text, I could break it down at the "<" characters,

> importing each one into a separate columns, but I need them in rows, 
> not columns, to search and find the strings of data I need.
>
> So, in summary, my only two choices (that I can think of) are:
>
> 1.  Import the XML as a single string into a memo and somehow parse 
> that into the data I need.
> 2.  Import the XML as text, separating it on the "<" characters into 
> columns, then somehow magically (transpose columns into rows?) 
> transform that to usable information.
>
> ANY suggestions, short of retirement (although not a bad idea...), 
> would be GREATLY apprecaited!
>
> Thanks!
>
> Greg Smith
>
>
>
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From Jdemarco at hudsonhealthplan.org  Thu Nov 16 12:56:42 2006
From: Jdemarco at hudsonhealthplan.org (Jim DeMarco)
Date: Thu, 16 Nov 2006 13:56:42 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Parsing XML as a string?
Message-ID: <0B8880A20E2CF24280FA60901E108FB0248A@TTNEXCHSVR.hshhp.com>

Not to oversimplify (and XSL is not simple) but if this is a file you're
going to handle regularly I'd consider writing an XSL transform to put
the attributes into nodes that Access will understand. Then your import
will be trivial.  You've already noted that the file is validated via
DTD so we know it'll parse.

Great book on subject : "Just XSL" 


Jim DeMarco

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Charlotte
Foust
Sent: Thursday, November 16, 2006 1:00 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Parsing XML as a string?

More likely something like this, where the attribute readonly, of the
element dbtype, has a value of "False":

 <dbtype readonly="False">0</dbtype> 

Multiple attributes in the element would be separated by spaces.  Each
element can have 0 to many attributes and they could conceivably vary
from node to node.  Ouch!

Charlotte Foust

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of JWColby
Sent: Thursday, November 16, 2006 9:47 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Parsing XML as a string?

OK, so I assume that you want to get the items, enclosed by < /> where
there are two "values" separated by a space?

You want all of them?
Just specific ones?
Are there more than one of the "big items" defined as the entire thing
you sent me) in a single file?

This looks trivial to parse based on the <> pairs as beginning / ending
a field.  This assumes that neither of these characters are found in the
image data.

I am not intimate with XML, but I thought that XML had <FieldName> data
</FieldName>.  This obviously doesn't.

John W. Colby
Colby Consulting
www.ColbyConsulting.com

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Greg Smith
Sent: Thursday, November 16, 2006 12:09 PM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Parsing XML as a string?

John:

I sent you a full copy of the XML file offline.

Greg

> Not having followed the original thread...
>
> It sounds like a good place for a pair of classes.  One class would 
> hold each "snippet" based on the < characters.  A parent class would 
> break down the string into these snippets, load them into the snippet 
> classes and hold the snippet classes in a collection.  Once the huge 
> string is parsed into snippets, the parent class can process them by 
> iterating the collection of snippets doing whatever was required for 
> each
snippet.
>
> Once you have processed the snippets, you can write the results out to

> a table.
>
> That is obviously a "big picture".
>
> Can you paste a sample of the xml into an email so that I can see it.
> Sorry, I wasn't following the original discussion.
>
> John W. Colby
> Colby Consulting
> www.ColbyConsulting.com
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Greg Smith
> Sent: Thursday, November 16, 2006 10:46 AM
> To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
> Subject: [AccessD] Parsing XML as a string?
>
> Hi everyone!
>
> Ok...I admit that trying to import that XML file I had directly into 
> Access may have SEEMED like a good, "easy", idea...at the time...but 
> after looking around and from the comments here, the idea 
> was...well..it sucked.
>  If the XML they were sending to me were compatible then I might have 
> had a chance...but it's just not feasible.  There actually wasn't any 
> way to define it using a dtd/xls/xlst within my lifetime, so I'm going

> to have to use a different approach.
>
> The files they send as XML are not that large, so I could easily 
> import them as text, separate out what I need and put it into the 
> required tables. However, since they send it as a single string, it 
> becomes harder to parse it since there are multiple duplicated 'keys'
> that I need to pull from it. And they're not necessarily in the same 
> position all of the time.
>
> I could import it as a single string into a memo field, but I can't 
> figure out how to disect a memo field string like that.
>
> When I import it as text, I could break it down at the "<" characters,

> importing each one into a separate columns, but I need them in rows, 
> not columns, to search and find the strings of data I need.
>
> So, in summary, my only two choices (that I can think of) are:
>
> 1.  Import the XML as a single string into a memo and somehow parse 
> that into the data I need.
> 2.  Import the XML as text, separating it on the "<" characters into 
> columns, then somehow magically (transpose columns into rows?) 
> transform that to usable information.
>
> ANY suggestions, short of retirement (although not a bad idea...), 
> would be GREATLY apprecaited!
>
> Thanks!
>
> Greg Smith
>
>
>
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From GregSmith at starband.net  Thu Nov 16 13:18:14 2006
From: GregSmith at starband.net (Greg Smith)
Date: Thu, 16 Nov 2006 13:18:14 -0600 (CST)
Subject: [AccessD] Parsing XML as a string?
In-Reply-To: <007301c709a7$40a51ea0$e1265b05@m6805>
References: <44328.65.118.249.214.1163696921.squirrel@cetus.email.starband.net>
	<007301c709a7$40a51ea0$e1265b05@m6805>
Message-ID: <54609.65.118.249.214.1163704694.squirrel@cetus.email.starband.net>

John:

Yes...I want a lot of the enclosed < /> fields, but I also need them with
respect to their description, such as the FEES, of which (in this example)
there are 5, each with it's own description "StandardFee", etc.  So I'll
not only need to get the data, such as the fee, but I have to be able to
delineate which fee it is so it can go in the right table field.  For all
practical purposes, I can ignore anything after the start of the
<DOCUMENT> because there's no data past that point.

And you are also correct in that this doesn't fit today's standard xml
format.  I've even asked the people who are sending it to me just WHAT
type of xml is it, but not gotten an answer...which makes me believe they
don't know either.  It works for what they want, so don't mess with it I
guess...and, of course, out of 99 counties, mine is the ONLY one using an
Access db program to do the Recorder's work (so far... :)).

You'll note that some of the Elements (Fee) have two attributes, whereas
some of them (Grantor) have many more.  So a rule that says only get the
two would not work in all cases.  Although maybe breaking it down first by
the < /> and then looking inside each of those...

Greg


> OK, so I assume that you want to get the items, enclosed by < /> where
> there are two "values" separated by a space?
>
> You want all of them?
> Just specific ones?
> Are there more than one of the "big items" defined as the entire thing
> you sent me) in a single file?
>
> This looks trivial to parse based on the <> pairs as beginning / ending
> a field.  This assumes that neither of these characters are found in the
> image data.
>
> I am not intimate with XML, but I thought that XML had <FieldName> data
> </FieldName>.  This obviously doesn't.
>
> John W. Colby
> Colby Consulting
> www.ColbyConsulting.com
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Greg Smith
> Sent: Thursday, November 16, 2006 12:09 PM
> To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] Parsing XML as a string?
>
> John:
>
> I sent you a full copy of the XML file offline.
>
> Greg
>
>> Not having followed the original thread...
>>
>> It sounds like a good place for a pair of classes.  One class would
>> hold each "snippet" based on the < characters.  A parent class would
>> break down the string into these snippets, load them into the snippet
>> classes and hold the snippet classes in a collection.  Once the huge
>> string is parsed into snippets, the parent class can process them by
>> iterating the collection of snippets doing whatever was required for
>> each
> snippet.
>>
>> Once you have processed the snippets, you can write the results out to
>>  a table.
>>
>> That is obviously a "big picture".
>>
>> Can you paste a sample of the xml into an email so that I can see it.
>> Sorry, I wasn't following the original discussion.
>>
>> John W. Colby
>> Colby Consulting
>> www.ColbyConsulting.com
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Greg Smith
>> Sent: Thursday, November 16, 2006 10:46 AM
>> To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
>> Subject: [AccessD] Parsing XML as a string?
>>
>> Hi everyone!
>>
>> Ok...I admit that trying to import that XML file I had directly into
>> Access may have SEEMED like a good, "easy", idea...at the time...but
>> after looking around and from the comments here, the idea
>> was...well..it sucked.
>>  If the XML they were sending to me were compatible then I might have
>> had a chance...but it's just not feasible.  There actually wasn't any
>> way to define it using a dtd/xls/xlst within my lifetime, so I'm going
>>  to have to use a different approach.
>>
>> The files they send as XML are not that large, so I could easily
>> import them as text, separate out what I need and put it into the
>> required tables. However, since they send it as a single string, it
>> becomes harder to parse it since there are multiple duplicated 'keys'
>> that I need to pull from it. And they're not necessarily in the same
>> position all of the time.
>>
>> I could import it as a single string into a memo field, but I can't
>> figure out how to disect a memo field string like that.
>>
>> When I import it as text, I could break it down at the "<" characters,
>>  importing each one into a separate columns, but I need them in rows,
>> not columns, to search and find the strings of data I need.
>>
>> So, in summary, my only two choices (that I can think of) are:
>>
>> 1.  Import the XML as a single string into a memo and somehow parse
>> that into the data I need.
>> 2.  Import the XML as text, separating it on the "<" characters into
>> columns, then somehow magically (transpose columns into rows?)
>> transform that to usable information.
>>
>> ANY suggestions, short of retirement (although not a bad idea...),
>> would be GREATLY apprecaited!
>>
>> Thanks!
>>
>> Greg Smith
>>
>>
>>
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From shamil at users.mns.ru  Thu Nov 16 13:39:56 2006
From: shamil at users.mns.ru (Shamil Salakhetdinov)
Date: Thu, 16 Nov 2006 22:39:56 +0300
Subject: [AccessD] Parsing XML as a string?
In-Reply-To: <54609.65.118.249.214.1163704694.squirrel@cetus.email.starband.net>
Message-ID: <001f01c709b6$fed888d0$6401a8c0@nant>

<<<
Although maybe breaking it down first by the < /> and then looking inside
each of those...
>>>
Greg,

The simplest and the most effective and safe practical approach is to use
MSXML's DOM for relatively small XML files and MSXML's SAX API for large XML
files.

I'd recommend not spending your valuable time trying to parse XML files
using custom code - that's not a trivial task for a general case. And
because you say that the party which supplies you with this XML file has
almost no idea "how they make it" then custom parsing approach looks even
more risky...

--
Shamil
 

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Greg Smith
Sent: Thursday, November 16, 2006 10:18 PM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Parsing XML as a string?

John:

Yes...I want a lot of the enclosed < /> fields, but I also need them with
respect to their description, such as the FEES, of which (in this example)
there are 5, each with it's own description "StandardFee", etc.  So I'll
not only need to get the data, such as the fee, but I have to be able to
delineate which fee it is so it can go in the right table field.  For all
practical purposes, I can ignore anything after the start of the
<DOCUMENT> because there's no data past that point.

And you are also correct in that this doesn't fit today's standard xml
format.  I've even asked the people who are sending it to me just WHAT
type of xml is it, but not gotten an answer...which makes me believe they
don't know either.  It works for what they want, so don't mess with it I
guess...and, of course, out of 99 counties, mine is the ONLY one using an
Access db program to do the Recorder's work (so far... :)).

You'll note that some of the Elements (Fee) have two attributes, whereas
some of them (Grantor) have many more.  So a rule that says only get the
two would not work in all cases.  Although maybe breaking it down first by
the < /> and then looking inside each of those...

Greg

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From lmrazek at lcm-res.com  Thu Nov 16 14:19:41 2006
From: lmrazek at lcm-res.com (Lawrence Mrazek)
Date: Thu, 16 Nov 2006 14:19:41 -0600
Subject: [AccessD] Query / Report Objects in Front End ... Max Number?
In-Reply-To: <001f01c709b6$fed888d0$6401a8c0@nant>
Message-ID: <03a901c709bc$8d33eac0$026fa8c0@stormy>

Hi Folks:

(using Access XP in FE/BE configuration)

I have a database that currently has 40+ query objects and 40+ report
objects for running analyses, and I just got a request from the client
wanting some additional custom reports. 

My question is how many report and query objects is too many for the Front
End? Could I be inviting corruption in the db if I had too many query and
report objects?

Thanks, just wanted to get a few other opinions on this matter. 

Larry Mrazek
LCM Research, Inc.
www.lcm-res.com
lmrazek at lcm-res.com
ph. 314.432.5886
fx. 314.432.3304




From andy at minstersystems.co.uk  Thu Nov 16 15:19:05 2006
From: andy at minstersystems.co.uk (Andy Lacey)
Date: Thu, 16 Nov 2006 21:19:05 -0000
Subject: [AccessD] Query / Report Objects in Front End ... Max Number?
In-Reply-To: <03a901c709bc$8d33eac0$026fa8c0@stormy>
Message-ID: <014601c709c4$d886a050$32990c54@minster33c3r25>

I wouldn't worry Larry. I've an app with over 400 reports and well over
1,000 queries. No problem.

-- Andy Lacey
http://www.minstersystems.co.uk 




> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com 
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of 
> Lawrence Mrazek
> Sent: 16 November 2006 20:20
> To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
> Subject: [AccessD] Query / Report Objects in Front End ... Max Number?
> 
> 
> Hi Folks:
> 
> (using Access XP in FE/BE configuration)
> 
> I have a database that currently has 40+ query objects and 
> 40+ report objects for running analyses, and I just got a 
> request from the client wanting some additional custom reports. 
> 
> My question is how many report and query objects is too many 
> for the Front End? Could I be inviting corruption in the db 
> if I had too many query and report objects?
> 
> Thanks, just wanted to get a few other opinions on this matter. 
> 
> Larry Mrazek
> LCM Research, Inc.
> www.lcm-res.com
> lmrazek at lcm-res.com
> ph. 314.432.5886
> fx. 314.432.3304
> 
> 
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From Chester_Kaup at kindermorgan.com  Thu Nov 16 15:58:16 2006
From: Chester_Kaup at kindermorgan.com (Kaup, Chester)
Date: Thu, 16 Nov 2006 15:58:16 -0600
Subject: [AccessD] Carry Forward in a query
In-Reply-To: <001501c70946$67f30910$430b65cb@pcadt>
Message-ID: <F1DD538AE6BCE74EBE562DE51564D322022968C0@houexch1.kindermorgan.com>

Thanks! Works great.

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of A.D.TEJPAL
Sent: Thursday, November 16, 2006 12:13 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Carry Forward in a query

Chester,

    It is presumed that table T_PriceIndex too has the field named
Pattern, with appropriate entries. In such a case, you could try
modified SQL as follows:

SELECT T_PriceCurrent.SDate, 
(Select Price from T_PriceIndex as T1 where T1.Pattern =
T_PriceCurrent.Pattern And T1.SDate=(Select Max(SDate) 
from T_PriceIndex AS T2 where T2.Pattern = T_PriceCurrent.Pattern And
T2.SDate<=T_PriceCurrent.SDate)) AS PriceCurrent
FROM T_PriceCurrent;

    Caution: Thi is AirCode - The suggested SQL has not been subjected
to actual test.

Best wishes,
A.D.Tejpal
---------------

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Kaup, Chester 
  To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving 
  Sent: Wednesday, November 15, 2006 04:10
  Subject: Re: [AccessD] Carry Forward in a query


  Here is what I have now. One table with dates and one table like
below.
  Query SQL as below. This works great.

  SELECT T_PriceCurrent.SDate, 
  (Select Price from T_PriceIndex as T1 where T1.SDate=(Select
Max(SDate) 
  from T_PriceIndex AS T2 where T2.SDate<=T_PriceCurrent.SDate)) 
  AS PriceCurrent
  FROM T_PriceCurrent;

  SDate Price
  1/1/2005 8.56
  1/23/2005 8.73
  2/14/2005 8.40
  3/1/2005 8.00
  3/12/2005 8.45
  3/27/2005 8.95
  4/7/2005 8.12
  4/30/2005 7.95
  5/14/2005 8.03
  5/27/2005 8.24
  6/10/2005 9.03
  6/25/2005 9.17
  7/3/2005 9.25
  7/27/2005 9.40
  8/3/2005 9.64

  What I cannot figure how to do is make it work if table looks like
  below. I need output for each Pattern.
  Pattern SDate Price
  1 1/1/2005 8.56
  1 1/23/2005 8.73
  1 2/14/2005 8.40
  1 3/1/2005 8.00
  1 3/12/2005 8.45
  1 3/27/2005 8.95
  1 4/7/2005 8.12
  1 4/30/2005 7.95
  1 5/14/2005 8.03
  1 5/27/2005 8.24
  1 6/10/2005 9.03
  1 6/25/2005 9.17
  1 7/3/2005 9.25
  1 7/27/2005 9.40
  1 8/3/2005 9.64
  2 1/7/2005 8.27
  2 1/24/2005 8.71
  2 2/13/2005 8.35
  2 3/2/2005 8.02
  2 3/13/2005 8.44
  2 3/28/2005 8.93
  2 4/6/2005 8.10
  2 4/28/2005 7.98
  2 5/15/2005 8.05
  2 5/25/2005 8.20
  2 6/9/2005 9.00
  2 6/20/2005 9.15
  2 7/1/2005 9.23
  2 7/25/2005 9.35
  2 8/4/2005 9.65
  2 8/15/2005 9.50

  Thanks for any ideas.

  -----Original Message-----
  From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
  [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Hale, Jim
  Sent: Tuesday, November 14, 2006 3:59 PM
  To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
  Subject: Re: [AccessD] Carry Forward in a query

  If I understand what you want to do, I have done this with a non
  cartesian
  join. I create a table with a one field record and  one record for
each
  date. In the query window I place this table and the table with the
  record
  you want to duplicate WITHOUT ANY JOIN. the resulting data set
produces
  one
  record for each date. HTH
  Jim Hale

  -----Original Message-----
  From: Kaup, Chester [mailto:Chester_Kaup at kindermorgan.com]
  Sent: Tuesday, November 14, 2006 3:13 PM
  To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
  Subject: [AccessD] Carry Forward in a query

  I have a table of data that has a record about every 6 months. I would
  like to generate a record for every month using the previous months
data until there is data for the current records month. I can do this in
code but had a coworker ask if it could be done in a query. I am not
coming up with an answer. Your thoughts please. 

  Chester Kaup
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From lmrazek at lcm-res.com  Thu Nov 16 16:49:08 2006
From: lmrazek at lcm-res.com (Lawrence Mrazek)
Date: Thu, 16 Nov 2006 16:49:08 -0600
Subject: [AccessD] SPAM-LOW: Re: Query / Report Objects in Front End ...
	Max Number?
In-Reply-To: <014601c709c4$d886a050$32990c54@minster33c3r25>
Message-ID: <040301c709d1$6e103800$026fa8c0@stormy>

Thanks Andy:

That makes me feel better. I can now worry about other stuff regarding this
app! <G>

Larry 

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Andy Lacey
Sent: Thursday, November 16, 2006 3:19 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: SPAM-LOW: Re: [AccessD] Query / Report Objects in Front End ... Max
Number?

I wouldn't worry Larry. I've an app with over 400 reports and well over
1,000 queries. No problem.

-- Andy Lacey
http://www.minstersystems.co.uk 




> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Lawrence 
> Mrazek
> Sent: 16 November 2006 20:20
> To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
> Subject: [AccessD] Query / Report Objects in Front End ... Max Number?
> 
> 
> Hi Folks:
> 
> (using Access XP in FE/BE configuration)
> 
> I have a database that currently has 40+ query objects and
> 40+ report objects for running analyses, and I just got a
> request from the client wanting some additional custom reports. 
> 
> My question is how many report and query objects is too many for the 
> Front End? Could I be inviting corruption in the db if I had too many 
> query and report objects?
> 
> Thanks, just wanted to get a few other opinions on this matter. 
> 
> Larry Mrazek
> LCM Research, Inc.
> www.lcm-res.com
> lmrazek at lcm-res.com
> ph. 314.432.5886
> fx. 314.432.3304
> 
> 
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From martyconnelly at shaw.ca  Thu Nov 16 18:47:35 2006
From: martyconnelly at shaw.ca (MartyConnelly)
Date: Thu, 16 Nov 2006 16:47:35 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] Parsing XML as a string?
In-Reply-To: <54609.65.118.249.214.1163704694.squirrel@cetus.email.starband.net>
References: <44328.65.118.249.214.1163696921.squirrel@cetus.email.starband.net>
	<007301c709a7$40a51ea0$e1265b05@m6805>
	<54609.65.118.249.214.1163704694.squirrel@cetus.email.starband.net>
Message-ID: <455D06A7.50501@shaw.ca>

Grab a book on XPath syntax; quickest to learn via examples

This code grabs the Fee attributes via XPath parsing of the xml dom

 Sub xpathtest()
Dim strxml As String
Dim xmldoc As MSXML2.DOMDocument40
Dim nodes As MSXML2.IXMLDOMNodeList
Dim node  As MSXML2.IXMLDOMNode
Dim xmlError    As IXMLDOMParseError
Dim lngErrCode As Long

Set xmldoc = New MSXML2.DOMDocument40
    xmldoc.setProperty "SelectionLanguage", "XPath"
    xmldoc.async = False
    xmldoc.validateOnParse = False
   'xmldoc.resolveExternals = False
xmldoc.Load "C:\Access files\xmltests\Pria Path\pria.xml"
'
               lngErrCode = xmldoc.validate
           '  Debug.Print lngErrCode
            If xmldoc.parseError.errorCode <> 0 Then
                   Debug.Print " Reason: " & xmldoc.parseError.reason
                  Set xmlError = xmldoc.parseError
                   reportParseError xmlError
            End If
'xpath entity name case sensitive
'grab attributes with fee via XPath
Set nodes = xmldoc.selectNodes("//_FEE/@*")

'Set nodes = xmldoc.selectNodes("/fee/@*")
'Set nodes = xmldoc.selectNodes("//_FEE")
'look through nodes collection
For Each node In nodes
    Debug.Print node.Text & " - " & node.nodeName
Next node

'Debug.Print xmldoc.xml
Set nodes = Nothing
Set xmldoc = Nothing
End Sub

Function reportParseError(err As IXMLDOMParseError)
  Dim s As String
  Dim r As String
  Dim i As Long
   s = ""
  For i = 1 To err.linepos - 1
    s = s & " "
  Next
  r = "XML Error loading " & err.url & " * " & err.reason
  Debug.Print r
    'show character postion of error; tired of counting
  If (err.Line > 0) Then
    r = "at line " & err.Line & ", character " & err.linepos & vbCrLf & _
         err.srcText & vbCrLf & s & "^"
  End If
  Debug.Print r
  End Function


"pria.xml"


<!DOCTYPE REQUEST_GROUP SYSTEM  
"http://iowalandrecords.org/portal/dtd/CLRIS_PRIA_Request.dtd">
<REQUEST_GROUP>
  <REQUESTING_PARTY/>
   <RECEIVING_PARTY/>
    <SUBMITTING_PARTY/>
     <REQUEST>
                <KEY _Name="SubmissionID" _Value="4281"/>
                <KEY _Name="GroupName" _Value="JFB_Exemption20060831"/>
                <KEY _Name="SubmissionNumber" _Value="000000061000004281"/>
 
<PRIA_REQUEST _Type="Other" _TypeOtherDescription="ESubmission">
          <PACKAGE>
            <PRIA_DOCUMENT _Code="" _NonRecordableIndicator="N" 
_Type="Deed" _InstrumentDate="20060831" 
_CountyOfRecordationName="Scott"  _StateOfRecordationName="IA">
            <GRANTOR _FirstName="First" _MiddleName="mi" 
_LastName="Last" _NameSuffix="" _UnparsedName="Last First mi" 
_Capacity="" NonPersonEntityIndicator="N"/>
            <GRANTEE _Capacity="" _NonPersonEntityIndicator="N"/>
            <PARTIES>
            <_RETURN_TO_PARTY>
            <NON_PERSON_ENTITY_DETAIL/>
            <CONTACT_DETAIL/>
            </_RETURN_TO_PARTY>
            </PARTIES>
            <EXECUTION/>
            <RECORDING_ENDORSEMENT>
            <_VOLUME_PAGE/>
            <_FEES _TotalAmount="31.00">
            <_FEE _Amount="15.00" _Description="StandardFee"/>
            <_FEE _Amount="3.00" _Description="DocMgmtFee"/>
            <_FEE _Amount="3.00" _Description="ERecordingFee"/>
            <_FEE _Amount="10.00" _Description="TransferFee"/>
            <_FEE _Amount="0.00" _Description="TransferTax"/>
            </_FEES>
            <_EXEMPTIONS _Description="Deed fulfilling contract"/>
            </RECORDING_ENDORSEMENT>
            <EMBEDDED_FILE _Description="" _EncodingType="B64Encode" 
_ID="4421" _Name="Cert.pdf" _NumberOfPages="1">
            <DOCUMENT>-BLAH  - IMAGE FILE - BLAH BLAH ==</DOCUMENT>
           </EMBEDDED_FILE>
          </PRIA_DOCUMENT>
         </PACKAGE>
        </PRIA_REQUEST>
       </REQUEST>
</REQUEST_GROUP>

Greg Smith wrote:

>John:
>
>Yes...I want a lot of the enclosed < /> fields, but I also need them with
>respect to their description, such as the FEES, of which (in this example)
>there are 5, each with it's own description "StandardFee", etc.  So I'll
>not only need to get the data, such as the fee, but I have to be able to
>delineate which fee it is so it can go in the right table field.  For all
>practical purposes, I can ignore anything after the start of the
><DOCUMENT> because there's no data past that point.
>
>And you are also correct in that this doesn't fit today's standard xml
>format.  I've even asked the people who are sending it to me just WHAT
>type of xml is it, but not gotten an answer...which makes me believe they
>don't know either.  It works for what they want, so don't mess with it I
>guess...and, of course, out of 99 counties, mine is the ONLY one using an
>Access db program to do the Recorder's work (so far... :)).
>
>You'll note that some of the Elements (Fee) have two attributes, whereas
>some of them (Grantor) have many more.  So a rule that says only get the
>two would not work in all cases.  Although maybe breaking it down first by
>the < /> and then looking inside each of those...
>
>Greg
>
>
>  
>
>>OK, so I assume that you want to get the items, enclosed by < /> where
>>there are two "values" separated by a space?
>>
>>You want all of them?
>>Just specific ones?
>>Are there more than one of the "big items" defined as the entire thing
>>you sent me) in a single file?
>>
>>This looks trivial to parse based on the <> pairs as beginning / ending
>>a field.  This assumes that neither of these characters are found in the
>>image data.
>>
>>I am not intimate with XML, but I thought that XML had <FieldName> data
>></FieldName>.  This obviously doesn't.
>>
>>John W. Colby
>>Colby Consulting
>>www.ColbyConsulting.com
>>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>>[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Greg Smith
>>Sent: Thursday, November 16, 2006 12:09 PM
>>To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
>>Subject: Re: [AccessD] Parsing XML as a string?
>>
>>John:
>>
>>I sent you a full copy of the XML file offline.
>>
>>Greg
>>
>>    
>>
>>>Not having followed the original thread...
>>>
>>>It sounds like a good place for a pair of classes.  One class would
>>>hold each "snippet" based on the < characters.  A parent class would
>>>break down the string into these snippets, load them into the snippet
>>>classes and hold the snippet classes in a collection.  Once the huge
>>>string is parsed into snippets, the parent class can process them by
>>>iterating the collection of snippets doing whatever was required for
>>>each
>>>      
>>>
>>snippet.
>>    
>>
>>>Once you have processed the snippets, you can write the results out to
>>> a table.
>>>
>>>That is obviously a "big picture".
>>>
>>>Can you paste a sample of the xml into an email so that I can see it.
>>>Sorry, I wasn't following the original discussion.
>>>
>>>John W. Colby
>>>Colby Consulting
>>>www.ColbyConsulting.com
>>>
>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>>>[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Greg Smith
>>>Sent: Thursday, November 16, 2006 10:46 AM
>>>To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
>>>Subject: [AccessD] Parsing XML as a string?
>>>
>>>Hi everyone!
>>>
>>>Ok...I admit that trying to import that XML file I had directly into
>>>Access may have SEEMED like a good, "easy", idea...at the time...but
>>>after looking around and from the comments here, the idea
>>>was...well..it sucked.
>>> If the XML they were sending to me were compatible then I might have
>>>had a chance...but it's just not feasible.  There actually wasn't any
>>>way to define it using a dtd/xls/xlst within my lifetime, so I'm going
>>> to have to use a different approach.
>>>
>>>The files they send as XML are not that large, so I could easily
>>>import them as text, separate out what I need and put it into the
>>>required tables. However, since they send it as a single string, it
>>>becomes harder to parse it since there are multiple duplicated 'keys'
>>>that I need to pull from it. And they're not necessarily in the same
>>>position all of the time.
>>>
>>>I could import it as a single string into a memo field, but I can't
>>>figure out how to disect a memo field string like that.
>>>
>>>When I import it as text, I could break it down at the "<" characters,
>>> importing each one into a separate columns, but I need them in rows,
>>>not columns, to search and find the strings of data I need.
>>>
>>>So, in summary, my only two choices (that I can think of) are:
>>>
>>>1.  Import the XML as a single string into a memo and somehow parse
>>>that into the data I need.
>>>2.  Import the XML as text, separating it on the "<" characters into
>>>columns, then somehow magically (transpose columns into rows?)
>>>transform that to usable information.
>>>
>>>ANY suggestions, short of retirement (although not a bad idea...),
>>>would be GREATLY apprecaited!
>>>
>>>Thanks!
>>>
>>>Greg Smith
>>>
>>>      
>>>
>  
>

-- 
Marty Connelly
Victoria, B.C.
Canada



From Gustav at cactus.dk  Fri Nov 17 05:01:41 2006
From: Gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Fri, 17 Nov 2006 12:01:41 +0100
Subject: [AccessD] Parsing XML as a string?
Message-ID: <s55da4c6.006@cactus.dk>

Hi Greg

I would listen closely to the advice from Shamil - manually parsing XML is like reinventing the wheel, only much more difficult.

If, for some reason, the Microsoft tools don't fit your task, take a look at the free (and very fast) XML parser from Chilkat:

  http://www.chilkatsoft.com/xml-activex.asp 

and documentation:

  http://www.chilkatsoft.com/refdoc/xChilkatXmlRef.html

/gustav



From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com  Fri Nov 17 05:15:28 2006
From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (JWColby)
Date: Fri, 17 Nov 2006 06:15:28 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Parsing XML as a string?
In-Reply-To: <54609.65.118.249.214.1163704694.squirrel@cetus.email.starband.net>
Message-ID: <008501c70a39$b0a33c90$e1265b05@m6805>

Greg,

Have you found a parser you are happy with?  I concur with others that you
should use a parser program if you can find one that works with this thing,
but if you can't come back and say so.

John W. Colby
Colby Consulting
www.ColbyConsulting.com

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Greg Smith
Sent: Thursday, November 16, 2006 2:18 PM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Parsing XML as a string?

John:

Yes...I want a lot of the enclosed < /> fields, but I also need them with
respect to their description, such as the FEES, of which (in this example)
there are 5, each with it's own description "StandardFee", etc.  So I'll not
only need to get the data, such as the fee, but I have to be able to
delineate which fee it is so it can go in the right table field.  For all
practical purposes, I can ignore anything after the start of the <DOCUMENT>
because there's no data past that point.

And you are also correct in that this doesn't fit today's standard xml
format.  I've even asked the people who are sending it to me just WHAT type
of xml is it, but not gotten an answer...which makes me believe they don't
know either.  It works for what they want, so don't mess with it I
guess...and, of course, out of 99 counties, mine is the ONLY one using an
Access db program to do the Recorder's work (so far... :)).

You'll note that some of the Elements (Fee) have two attributes, whereas
some of them (Grantor) have many more.  So a rule that says only get the two
would not work in all cases.  Although maybe breaking it down first by the <
/> and then looking inside each of those...

Greg


> OK, so I assume that you want to get the items, enclosed by < /> where 
> there are two "values" separated by a space?
>
> You want all of them?
> Just specific ones?
> Are there more than one of the "big items" defined as the entire thing 
> you sent me) in a single file?
>
> This looks trivial to parse based on the <> pairs as beginning / 
> ending a field.  This assumes that neither of these characters are 
> found in the image data.
>
> I am not intimate with XML, but I thought that XML had <FieldName> 
> data </FieldName>.  This obviously doesn't.
>
> John W. Colby
> Colby Consulting
> www.ColbyConsulting.com
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Greg Smith
> Sent: Thursday, November 16, 2006 12:09 PM
> To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] Parsing XML as a string?
>
> John:
>
> I sent you a full copy of the XML file offline.
>
> Greg
>
>> Not having followed the original thread...
>>
>> It sounds like a good place for a pair of classes.  One class would 
>> hold each "snippet" based on the < characters.  A parent class would 
>> break down the string into these snippets, load them into the snippet 
>> classes and hold the snippet classes in a collection.  Once the huge 
>> string is parsed into snippets, the parent class can process them by 
>> iterating the collection of snippets doing whatever was required for 
>> each
> snippet.
>>
>> Once you have processed the snippets, you can write the results out 
>> to  a table.
>>
>> That is obviously a "big picture".
>>
>> Can you paste a sample of the xml into an email so that I can see it.
>> Sorry, I wasn't following the original discussion.
>>
>> John W. Colby
>> Colby Consulting
>> www.ColbyConsulting.com
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Greg Smith
>> Sent: Thursday, November 16, 2006 10:46 AM
>> To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
>> Subject: [AccessD] Parsing XML as a string?
>>
>> Hi everyone!
>>
>> Ok...I admit that trying to import that XML file I had directly into 
>> Access may have SEEMED like a good, "easy", idea...at the time...but 
>> after looking around and from the comments here, the idea 
>> was...well..it sucked.
>>  If the XML they were sending to me were compatible then I might have 
>> had a chance...but it's just not feasible.  There actually wasn't any 
>> way to define it using a dtd/xls/xlst within my lifetime, so I'm 
>> going  to have to use a different approach.
>>
>> The files they send as XML are not that large, so I could easily 
>> import them as text, separate out what I need and put it into the 
>> required tables. However, since they send it as a single string, it 
>> becomes harder to parse it since there are multiple duplicated 'keys'
>> that I need to pull from it. And they're not necessarily in the same 
>> position all of the time.
>>
>> I could import it as a single string into a memo field, but I can't 
>> figure out how to disect a memo field string like that.
>>
>> When I import it as text, I could break it down at the "<" 
>> characters,  importing each one into a separate columns, but I need 
>> them in rows, not columns, to search and find the strings of data I need.
>>
>> So, in summary, my only two choices (that I can think of) are:
>>
>> 1.  Import the XML as a single string into a memo and somehow parse 
>> that into the data I need.
>> 2.  Import the XML as text, separating it on the "<" characters into 
>> columns, then somehow magically (transpose columns into rows?) 
>> transform that to usable information.
>>
>> ANY suggestions, short of retirement (although not a bad idea...), 
>> would be GREATLY apprecaited!
>>
>> Thanks!
>>
>> Greg Smith
>>
>>
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From max at sherman.org.uk  Fri Nov 17 06:34:59 2006
From: max at sherman.org.uk (Max Home)
Date: Fri, 17 Nov 2006 12:34:59 -0000
Subject: [AccessD] Parsing XML as a string?
In-Reply-To: <37260.65.118.249.214.1163691962.squirrel@cetus.email.starband.net>
Message-ID: <002701c70a44$cd50d8b0$8119fea9@Server>

Hi Gregg,

Would this work:  
Application.ImportXML strPath & strFile & strExtn, acStructureAndData

Max


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[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Greg Smith
Sent: Thursday, November 16, 2006 3:46 PM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [AccessD] Parsing XML as a string?

Hi everyone!

Ok...I admit that trying to import that XML file I had directly into
Access may have SEEMED like a good, "easy", idea...at the time...but after
looking around and from the comments here, the idea was...well..it sucked.
 If the XML they were sending to me were compatible then I might have had
a chance...but it's just not feasible.  There actually wasn't any way to
define it using a dtd/xls/xlst within my lifetime, so I'm going to have to
use a different approach.

The files they send as XML are not that large, so I could easily import
them as text, separate out what I need and put it into the required
tables.  However, since they send it as a single string, it becomes harder
to parse it since there are multiple duplicated 'keys' that I need to pull
from it.  And they're not necessarily in the same position all of the
time.

I could import it as a single string into a memo field, but I can't figure
out how to disect a memo field string like that.

When I import it as text, I could break it down at the "<" characters,
importing each one into a separate columns, but I need them in rows, not
columns, to search and find the strings of data I need.

So, in summary, my only two choices (that I can think of) are:

1.  Import the XML as a single string into a memo and somehow parse that
into the data I need.
2.  Import the XML as text, separating it on the "<" characters into
columns, then somehow magically (transpose columns into rows?) transform
that to usable information.

ANY suggestions, short of retirement (although not a bad idea...), would
be GREATLY apprecaited!

Thanks!

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From Johncliviger at aol.com  Fri Nov 17 08:14:09 2006
From: Johncliviger at aol.com (Johncliviger at aol.com)
Date: Fri, 17 Nov 2006 09:14:09 EST
Subject: [AccessD] Connecting Access to SQL tables
Message-ID: <cde.344de61.328f1db1@aol.com>

Salutations
 
 I am proposing to connect Access FE to SQL 2000 tables  which is simple but 
is it wise?
 With say 40/50 users using an Access runtime FE should a prudent  database
developer be connecting directly to tables. What should be  the
strategy in multi-user environment  where data is being  entered and 
modified??

There must be some documentation around on  this subject comments and
links will be thankfully recieved.

TIA
johnc



From Kwilliamson at RTKL.com  Fri Nov 17 08:25:47 2006
From: Kwilliamson at RTKL.com (Keith Williamson)
Date: Fri, 17 Nov 2006 09:25:47 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Connecting Access to SQL tables
Message-ID: <B7450F806572FD4AA30B664E5FE127FB0E8120@sherman.rtkl.rtkl.net>

John,

All I can tell you is that I have done this before, with no problems.  I
had linked tables in my FE, to the SQL database.  Worked Great.

Regards,

Keith E. Williamson | Assist. Controller| kwilliamson at rtkl.com

RTKL Associates Inc. | 901 South Bond Street | Baltimore, Maryland
21231-3305

410-537-6098 direct | 410-276-2136 fax | www.rtkl.com

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Johncliviger at aol.com
Sent: Friday, November 17, 2006 9:14 AM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [AccessD] Connecting Access to SQL tables

Salutations
 
 I am proposing to connect Access FE to SQL 2000 tables  which is simple
but 
is it wise?
 With say 40/50 users using an Access runtime FE should a prudent
database
developer be connecting directly to tables. What should be  the
strategy in multi-user environment  where data is being  entered and 
modified??

There must be some documentation around on  this subject comments and
links will be thankfully recieved.

TIA
johnc

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From mikedorism at verizon.net  Fri Nov 17 08:43:48 2006
From: mikedorism at verizon.net (Doris Manning)
Date: Fri, 17 Nov 2006 09:43:48 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Connecting Access to SQL tables
In-Reply-To: <cde.344de61.328f1db1@aol.com>
Message-ID: <000001c70a56$cb62bf20$2f01a8c0@Kermit>

A prudent database developer would NEVER EVER allow users to connect
directly to the tables.  Everything should be done through stored
procedures.  

Start by reading Rick Dobson's "SQL Server with Access 2000".  Here is a
link to his website http://www.programmingmsaccess.com/

Doris Manning

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Johncliviger at aol.com
Sent: Friday, November 17, 2006 9:14 AM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [AccessD] Connecting Access to SQL tables

Salutations
 
 I am proposing to connect Access FE to SQL 2000 tables  which is simple but

is it wise?
 With say 40/50 users using an Access runtime FE should a prudent  database
developer be connecting directly to tables. What should be  the
strategy in multi-user environment  where data is being  entered and 
modified??

There must be some documentation around on  this subject comments and
links will be thankfully recieved.

TIA
johnc

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From Johncliviger at aol.com  Fri Nov 17 09:08:54 2006
From: Johncliviger at aol.com (Johncliviger at aol.com)
Date: Fri, 17 Nov 2006 10:08:54 EST
Subject: [AccessD] Connecting Access to SQL tables
Message-ID: <585.69367af.328f2a86@aol.com>

 
In a message dated 17/11/2006 14:57:38 GMT Standard Time,  
mikedorism at verizon.net writes:

http://www.programmingmsaccess.com/



Hi Doris
 
Thank you for the comments and link. I had a feeling that allowing users  
direct access to tables was not a good idea. 
 
Thanks Doris 


From artful at rogers.com  Fri Nov 17 09:11:28 2006
From: artful at rogers.com (artful at rogers.com)
Date: Fri, 17 Nov 2006 07:11:28 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [AccessD] Connecting Access to SQL tables
Message-ID: <20061117151128.21031.qmail@web88213.mail.re2.yahoo.com>

I have written extensively on this subject, but so have many others.

Create an Access ADP project and connect it to your SQL 2000 database. This is a much superior strategy than using ODBC connections from an MDB.

Allow no one but yourself (and other db developers if any) direct access to the tables. Instead, create views and/or stored procedures and/or user-defined functions to access the tables. Then think about your app and create some roles corresponding to users and the power they should have (i.e. the lowest level in the hierarchy should probably not have the ability to run a report listing all salaries at all levels). Always think in terms of roles, not users. There is a huge reason for this: you add users to roles, and you can even add roles to roles. I am a big fan of this approach. For example, a sales manager in a pinch may have to do data-entry of sales. So add the SalesManager role to the DataEntry role: then any SalesManager can do both, whereas the DataEntry people cannot.

That's a thumbnail sketch of how to approach this. Basic two rules: nobody but developers gets access to database objects such as tables; roles define the permissions within the org, and users are simply added to roles. That keeps it all lean and mean and easily manageable.

Arthur

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To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Sent: Friday, November 17, 2006 9:14:09 AM
Subject: [AccessD] Connecting Access to SQL tables

Salutations
 
 I am proposing to connect Access FE to SQL 2000 tables  which is simple but 
is it wise?
 With say 40/50 users using an Access runtime FE should a prudent  database
developer be connecting directly to tables. What should be  the
strategy in multi-user environment  where data is being  entered and 
modified??

There must be some documentation around on  this subject comments and
links will be thankfully recieved.

TIA
johnc

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From Johncliviger at aol.com  Fri Nov 17 09:24:33 2006
From: Johncliviger at aol.com (Johncliviger at aol.com)
Date: Fri, 17 Nov 2006 10:24:33 EST
Subject: [AccessD] Connecting Access to SQL tables
Message-ID: <c3b.71ba7b4.328f2e31@aol.com>

 
In a message dated 17/11/2006 15:19:23 GMT Standard Time, artful at rogers.com  
writes:

Arthur



Cheers Arthur for your comments. Where can I find a more detailed  
explanation on a web site?
 
johnc



From bchacc at san.rr.com  Fri Nov 17 11:24:13 2006
From: bchacc at san.rr.com (Beach Access Software)
Date: Fri, 17 Nov 2006 09:24:13 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] FW: [U] Soldier in Iraq needs Access Help
Message-ID: <003201c70a6d$33c351e0$6401a8c0@HAL9005>

Anyone want to tackle this one?  Sounds like an interesting project.

 

Rocky

 

 

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From: Access Users Group of San Diego [mailto:admin at augsd.org] 
Sent: Friday, November 17, 2006 8:59 AM
To: Wayne Warren-Angelucci; Rocky Smolin; Mark J. Krisburg; Joe Anderson;
Dixon Foss; Barry Hynum (E-mail); Mike Dwyer; Ed Lance; Doug Murphy; Dixon
Foss; Jackie Murphy (E-mail)
Subject: FW: [U] Soldier in Iraq needs Access Help

 

 

-----Original Message-----
From: Newsom Lester SFC MNFI STARTEFF
[mailto:lester.newsom at iraq.centcom.mil]
Sent: Wednesday, November 01, 2006 9:12 AM
To: admin at augsd.org
Subject: [U] Soldier in Iraq needs Access Help

Classification: UNCLASSIFIED 

Greetings from Baghdad.

 

I am not one to ask for help until I have absolutely driven myself to the
edge. It is my hope that you or one of your experts can shed some light on
what I am trying to get Access to do.

 

There are actually two things, but first an explanation of what the database
does. A team of translators interpret local Iraqi newscasts which are
transcribed and input into the database. These transcriptions are referred
back to on a regular basis via requests to my office by the higher-ups. A
typical request would be along the lines of "Give me the instances over the
past two weeks Prime Minister Maliki has said he likes the U.S." or, "Give
me every article referring to IED's exploding in the past month"

 

A simple query of course, returns the date range and all articles whereas
the word "Maliki" appears. I am helped by the fact that Maliki does not
appear in the dictionary so I can scan through the articles, deleting those
that are not relevant. I cannot however discern when IED is actually part of
another word. 

 

What I would like to accomplish, is highlighting my text query, much like
Google does in its cached pages. So, those words that I search for are
highlighted, giving me a visual reference. 

 

I have tried constructing a macro to do the action and have also searched
high and low in the Help files and the Internet.. Perhaps this makes perfect
sense to you and you can point me in the right direction.

 

Thank you in advance for your time.

 

SFC Lester Newsom

Baghdad, Iraq

 

 

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From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com  Fri Nov 17 11:26:03 2006
From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (JWColby)
Date: Fri, 17 Nov 2006 12:26:03 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Boot off of D: drive
Message-ID: <00a301c70a6d$758daa80$e1265b05@m6805>

I installed Windows XP onto my server, then discovered I needed a true RAID
controller.  Once that was installed I had this truly reliable (we hope)
raid system.  Now I discovered (thanks to certain listmembers who shall
remain unnamed) that I really needed to move to Windows Server 2003.  Having
this high powered raid system, I decided to install (dual boot) Windows 2003
to the D: drive.  In and of itself this is not a big issue but it does leave
a single (and small - 80gb) non-raid drive sitting at C:, with a full
install (unused) of Windows XP Pro.
 
Is it possible to:
 
1) Get rid of the dual boot so that the system automatically boots into
Server 2003.
2) Get rid of the C: drive and slide a raid drive into it's place.
3) and REALLY reaching here, migrate all the software stored on my D: drive
onto that C: drive.
4) Have it all work when that is done.  ;-)
 
I would be thrilled with 1 and 2, but figured I might as well ask about 3 as
well.
 
John W. Colby
Colby Consulting
www.ColbyConsulting.com
 


From GregSmith at starband.net  Fri Nov 17 11:49:28 2006
From: GregSmith at starband.net (Greg Smith)
Date: Fri, 17 Nov 2006 11:49:28 -0600 (CST)
Subject: [AccessD] Parsing XML as a string?
In-Reply-To: <s55da4c6.006@cactus.dk>
References: <s55da4c6.006@cactus.dk>
Message-ID: <5436.65.118.249.214.1163785768.squirrel@cetus.email.starband.net>

Hi Gustav:

Thanks...I will.  But I'm having an issue getting back to his site he had
in an email yesterday, and I could get to it yesterday, but today it's not
working...at least from the three different computers I tried...two in
house (behind same firewall) and one from a the local County Court
House...all with the same result ... **NEVER MIND** ...it just worked. :)

http://smsconsulting.spb.ru/shamil_s/topics/xmltests.htm

I was also looking at the active-X Chilkat parser you suggested below but
I'm not sure how I'm supposed to use it.

Thanks again!

Greg

> Hi Greg
>
> I would listen closely to the advice from Shamil - manually parsing XML
> is like reinventing the wheel, only much more difficult.
>
> If, for some reason, the Microsoft tools don't fit your task, take a
> look at the free (and very fast) XML parser from Chilkat:
>
>   http://www.chilkatsoft.com/xml-activex.asp
>
> and documentation:
>
>   http://www.chilkatsoft.com/refdoc/xChilkatXmlRef.html
>
> /gustav
<snip>




From Gustav at cactus.dk  Fri Nov 17 12:21:24 2006
From: Gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Fri, 17 Nov 2006 19:21:24 +0100
Subject: [AccessD] Parsing XML as a string?
Message-ID: <s55e0bc6.024@cactus.dk>

Hi Greg

Go to the documentation and pick example code, Visual Basic.
I have not worked with it myself so I cannot be of much help other than this, sorry. However, support at Chilkat is very responsive so don't hesitate asking for assistance.

/gustav

>>> GregSmith at starband.net 17-11-2006 18:49:28 >>>

I was also looking at the active-X Chilkat parser you suggested below but
I'm not sure how I'm supposed to use it.

Thanks again!

Greg

> Hi Greg
>
> I would listen closely to the advice from Shamil - manually parsing XML
> is like reinventing the wheel, only much more difficult.
>
> If, for some reason, the Microsoft tools don't fit your task, take a
> look at the free (and very fast) XML parser from Chilkat:
>
>   http://www.chilkatsoft.com/xml-activex.asp 
>
> and documentation:
>
>   http://www.chilkatsoft.com/refdoc/xChilkatXmlRef.html 
>
> /gustav




From rusty.hammond at cpiqpc.com  Fri Nov 17 13:16:34 2006
From: rusty.hammond at cpiqpc.com (rusty.hammond at cpiqpc.com)
Date: Fri, 17 Nov 2006 13:16:34 -0600
Subject: [AccessD] FW: [U] Soldier in Iraq needs Access Help
Message-ID: <8301C8A868251E4C8ECD3D4FFEA40F8A2584B6EF@cpixchng-1.cpiqpc.net>

Rocky,

These ideas aren't what he's asking for but they might help him speed up his
search a little bit.

To help his search he could in a query put Like "* IED *" in the criteria of
his query.  That should only return those records where IED is surrounded by
spaces on either side thus not being part of another word.

Another option, which isn't as nice as the Google search he refers to, is to
flag each article that has an instance of IED via an update query, export
those flagged records out to a word document via a report, then run Find and
Replace in Word and use the "Highlight All Items Found In" option. I know
this option is found in Word 2003 and not in 97.  I don't about the versions
in between.

HTH,

Rusty


-----Original Message-----
From: Beach Access Software [mailto:bchacc at san.rr.com]
Sent: Friday, November 17, 2006 11:24 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] FW: [U] Soldier in Iraq needs Access Help


Anyone want to tackle this one?  Sounds like an interesting project.

 

Rocky

 

 

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From: Access Users Group of San Diego [mailto:admin at augsd.org] 
Sent: Friday, November 17, 2006 8:59 AM
To: Wayne Warren-Angelucci; Rocky Smolin; Mark J. Krisburg; Joe Anderson;
Dixon Foss; Barry Hynum (E-mail); Mike Dwyer; Ed Lance; Doug Murphy; Dixon
Foss; Jackie Murphy (E-mail)
Subject: FW: [U] Soldier in Iraq needs Access Help

 

 

-----Original Message-----
From: Newsom Lester SFC MNFI STARTEFF
[mailto:lester.newsom at iraq.centcom.mil]
Sent: Wednesday, November 01, 2006 9:12 AM
To: admin at augsd.org
Subject: [U] Soldier in Iraq needs Access Help

Classification: UNCLASSIFIED 

Greetings from Baghdad.

 

I am not one to ask for help until I have absolutely driven myself to the
edge. It is my hope that you or one of your experts can shed some light on
what I am trying to get Access to do.

 

There are actually two things, but first an explanation of what the database
does. A team of translators interpret local Iraqi newscasts which are
transcribed and input into the database. These transcriptions are referred
back to on a regular basis via requests to my office by the higher-ups. A
typical request would be along the lines of "Give me the instances over the
past two weeks Prime Minister Maliki has said he likes the U.S." or, "Give
me every article referring to IED's exploding in the past month"

 

A simple query of course, returns the date range and all articles whereas
the word "Maliki" appears. I am helped by the fact that Maliki does not
appear in the dictionary so I can scan through the articles, deleting those
that are not relevant. I cannot however discern when IED is actually part of
another word. 

 

What I would like to accomplish, is highlighting my text query, much like
Google does in its cached pages. So, those words that I search for are
highlighted, giving me a visual reference. 

 

I have tried constructing a macro to do the action and have also searched
high and low in the Help files and the Internet.. Perhaps this makes perfect
sense to you and you can point me in the right direction.

 

Thank you in advance for your time.

 

SFC Lester Newsom

Baghdad, Iraq

 

 

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From Jim.Hale at FleetPride.com  Fri Nov 17 13:20:53 2006
From: Jim.Hale at FleetPride.com (Hale, Jim)
Date: Fri, 17 Nov 2006 13:20:53 -0600
Subject: [AccessD] FW: [U] Soldier in Iraq needs Access Help
Message-ID: <6A6AA9DF57E4F046BDA1E273BDDB67727DE11B@corp-es01.fleetpride.com>

The FMS Visual sourcebook has two classes (CBoyerMoore and
CFuzzystringsearch) that may accomplish the objective. Actually, if this
solder contacts Luke Chung at FMS he may be able to get exactly the help he
needs. 
Jim Hale

-----Original Message-----
From: Beach Access Software [mailto:bchacc at san.rr.com]
Sent: Friday, November 17, 2006 11:24 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] FW: [U] Soldier in Iraq needs Access Help


Anyone want to tackle this one?  Sounds like an interesting project.

 

Rocky

 

 

  _____  

From: Access Users Group of San Diego [mailto:admin at augsd.org] 
Sent: Friday, November 17, 2006 8:59 AM
To: Wayne Warren-Angelucci; Rocky Smolin; Mark J. Krisburg; Joe Anderson;
Dixon Foss; Barry Hynum (E-mail); Mike Dwyer; Ed Lance; Doug Murphy; Dixon
Foss; Jackie Murphy (E-mail)
Subject: FW: [U] Soldier in Iraq needs Access Help

 

 

-----Original Message-----
From: Newsom Lester SFC MNFI STARTEFF
[mailto:lester.newsom at iraq.centcom.mil]
Sent: Wednesday, November 01, 2006 9:12 AM
To: admin at augsd.org
Subject: [U] Soldier in Iraq needs Access Help

Classification: UNCLASSIFIED 

Greetings from Baghdad.

 

I am not one to ask for help until I have absolutely driven myself to the
edge. It is my hope that you or one of your experts can shed some light on
what I am trying to get Access to do.

 

There are actually two things, but first an explanation of what the database
does. A team of translators interpret local Iraqi newscasts which are
transcribed and input into the database. These transcriptions are referred
back to on a regular basis via requests to my office by the higher-ups. A
typical request would be along the lines of "Give me the instances over the
past two weeks Prime Minister Maliki has said he likes the U.S." or, "Give
me every article referring to IED's exploding in the past month"

 

A simple query of course, returns the date range and all articles whereas
the word "Maliki" appears. I am helped by the fact that Maliki does not
appear in the dictionary so I can scan through the articles, deleting those
that are not relevant. I cannot however discern when IED is actually part of
another word. 

 

What I would like to accomplish, is highlighting my text query, much like
Google does in its cached pages. So, those words that I search for are
highlighted, giving me a visual reference. 

 

I have tried constructing a macro to do the action and have also searched
high and low in the Help files and the Internet.. Perhaps this makes perfect
sense to you and you can point me in the right direction.

 

Thank you in advance for your time.

 

SFC Lester Newsom

Baghdad, Iraq

 

 

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From: john at winhaven.net (John Bartow)
Date: Fri, 17 Nov 2006 13:32:09 -0600
Subject: [AccessD] Simplify String Concatenations with Nulls and Zero Length
	String
Message-ID: <200611171932.kAHJWGq09711@databaseadvisors.com>

This tip just came through from FMS in their newsletter. Nothin gnew since
I've been using it for near a decade now but I just wanted to get thoughts
on it here. Anyone take issue with this method?

John B.

Tip #49: Simplify String Concatenations with Nulls and Zero Length Strings
Provided by: Luke Chung, FMS President

The concatenation of string values can be a nuisance when referencing fields
with Null values, because you want to avoid having extra spaces where the
missing string value should have appeared. 

A classic example of this is a person's name and their spouse. You want to
add the " and Spouse" to the name if the Spouse field is filled.

Here's the data:

PersonID	 FirstName	 LastName	 Spouse	
1	 Robert	 Jones	  	
2	 Thomas	 Smith	 Jane	
3	 Jack	 Thompson	 Sally	
4	 William	 Johnson	  	

And the results we want:

PersonID	 Person	
1	 Robert Jones	
2	 Thomas and Jane Smith	
3	 Jack and Sally Thompson	
4	 William Johnson	

Zero Length Strings Allowed


If the Spouse field allows zero length string values ("") -- its
AllowZeroLength property is True, you need to consider both Nulls and "".
You should use the NullToZero function NZ, to handle either case:

SELECT PersonID, FirstName & IIF(Nz(Spouse)<>"", " & " & Spouse) & " " &
LastName AS Person
FROM tblPerson

The NZ function evaluates the value it is passed. For text fields, it
returns "" if it's null or "". For numeric and dates fields, it returns zero
if it's null. This makes it easy to handle nulls in either case.


Zero Length Strings Not Allowed


If the Spouse field does not allow zero length strings, blank values are
always null. In this situation, we can avoid using a user-defined/built-in
function to test for null. The concatenation of a string value and a null
value will return a null value. Thus, you eliminate the extra processing
needed:

SELECT PersonID, FirstName & (" and " + Spouse) & " " & LastName AS Person
FROM tblPerson

By using the "+" command to combine the " and " and [Spouse] fields, the
result is nothing if the Spouse field is null. This is a difference from
using the "&" command which concatenates fields and would leave the " and "
if Spouse is null.




From DWUTKA at marlow.com  Fri Nov 17 13:29:10 2006
From: DWUTKA at marlow.com (DWUTKA at marlow.com)
Date: Fri, 17 Nov 2006 13:29:10 -0600
Subject: [AccessD] FW: [U] Soldier in Iraq needs Access Help
Message-ID: <17724746D360394AA3BFE5B8D40A9C1B014B18AF@MARLOW_MAIN2.marlow.com>

If the results are displayed on a web page the highlighting would be a snap!

Drew

-----Original Message-----
From: Beach Access Software [mailto:bchacc at san.rr.com] 
Sent: Friday, November 17, 2006 11:24 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] FW: [U] Soldier in Iraq needs Access Help

Anyone want to tackle this one?  Sounds like an interesting project.

 

Rocky

 

 

  _____  

From: Access Users Group of San Diego [mailto:admin at augsd.org] 
Sent: Friday, November 17, 2006 8:59 AM
To: Wayne Warren-Angelucci; Rocky Smolin; Mark J. Krisburg; Joe Anderson;
Dixon Foss; Barry Hynum (E-mail); Mike Dwyer; Ed Lance; Doug Murphy; Dixon
Foss; Jackie Murphy (E-mail)
Subject: FW: [U] Soldier in Iraq needs Access Help

 

 

-----Original Message-----
From: Newsom Lester SFC MNFI STARTEFF
[mailto:lester.newsom at iraq.centcom.mil]
Sent: Wednesday, November 01, 2006 9:12 AM
To: admin at augsd.org
Subject: [U] Soldier in Iraq needs Access Help

Classification: UNCLASSIFIED 

Greetings from Baghdad.

 

I am not one to ask for help until I have absolutely driven myself to the
edge. It is my hope that you or one of your experts can shed some light on
what I am trying to get Access to do.

 

There are actually two things, but first an explanation of what the database
does. A team of translators interpret local Iraqi newscasts which are
transcribed and input into the database. These transcriptions are referred
back to on a regular basis via requests to my office by the higher-ups. A
typical request would be along the lines of "Give me the instances over the
past two weeks Prime Minister Maliki has said he likes the U.S." or, "Give
me every article referring to IED's exploding in the past month"

 

A simple query of course, returns the date range and all articles whereas
the word "Maliki" appears. I am helped by the fact that Maliki does not
appear in the dictionary so I can scan through the articles, deleting those
that are not relevant. I cannot however discern when IED is actually part of
another word. 

 

What I would like to accomplish, is highlighting my text query, much like
Google does in its cached pages. So, those words that I search for are
highlighted, giving me a visual reference. 

 

I have tried constructing a macro to do the action and have also searched
high and low in the Help files and the Internet.. Perhaps this makes perfect
sense to you and you can point me in the right direction.

 

Thank you in advance for your time.

 

SFC Lester Newsom

Baghdad, Iraq

 

 

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From shamil at users.mns.ru  Fri Nov 17 13:43:38 2006
From: shamil at users.mns.ru (Shamil Salakhetdinov)
Date: Fri, 17 Nov 2006 22:43:38 +0300
Subject: [AccessD] Parsing XML as a string?
In-Reply-To: <5436.65.118.249.214.1163785768.squirrel@cetus.email.starband.net>
Message-ID: <001601c70a80$ae0e68a0$6401a8c0@nant>

Greg,

Please send me your e-mail address and I will send you this page by e-mail
privately. (This page
http://smsconsulting.spb.ru/shamil_s/topics/xmltests.htm works from here,
sorry, if it doesn't work there. That's strange...)

--
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-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Greg Smith
Sent: Friday, November 17, 2006 8:49 PM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Parsing XML as a string?

Hi Gustav:

Thanks...I will.  But I'm having an issue getting back to his site he had
in an email yesterday, and I could get to it yesterday, but today it's not
working...at least from the three different computers I tried...two in
house (behind same firewall) and one from a the local County Court
House...all with the same result ... **NEVER MIND** ...it just worked. :)

http://smsconsulting.spb.ru/shamil_s/topics/xmltests.htm

I was also looking at the active-X Chilkat parser you suggested below but
I'm not sure how I'm supposed to use it.

Thanks again!

Greg

> Hi Greg
>
> I would listen closely to the advice from Shamil - manually parsing XML
> is like reinventing the wheel, only much more difficult.
>
> If, for some reason, the Microsoft tools don't fit your task, take a
> look at the free (and very fast) XML parser from Chilkat:
>
>   http://www.chilkatsoft.com/xml-activex.asp
>
> and documentation:
>
>   http://www.chilkatsoft.com/refdoc/xChilkatXmlRef.html
>
> /gustav
<snip>


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From pedro at plex.nl  Fri Nov 17 15:14:36 2006
From: pedro at plex.nl (Pedro Janssen)
Date: Fri, 17 Nov 2006 22:14:36 +0100
Subject: [AccessD] help with cascade combobox
Message-ID: <002b01c70a8d$62a9cc30$4001a8c0@qmotionfaa3ad9>

Hello Group,

i need some help with an cascade combobox, the storage of the data in a table.

I have a small example database, who can help me with this?

Thanks Pedro Janssen

From martyconnelly at shaw.ca  Fri Nov 17 16:32:44 2006
From: martyconnelly at shaw.ca (MartyConnelly)
Date: Fri, 17 Nov 2006 14:32:44 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] help with cascade combobox
In-Reply-To: <002b01c70a8d$62a9cc30$4001a8c0@qmotionfaa3ad9>
References: <002b01c70a8d$62a9cc30$4001a8c0@qmotionfaa3ad9>
Message-ID: <455E388C.8030004@shaw.ca>

Maybe these examples will help
http://www.rogersaccesslibrary.com/TableOfContents3.asp

CascadingComboBoxes.mdb ( beginner )
This sample illustrates how to restrict the value of one combo box based 
on the value of another.

CascadingComboInSubform.mdb ( intermediate )
Illustrates how to use Cascading Comboboxes in a continuous subform.
 

Pedro Janssen wrote:

>Hello Group,
>
>i need some help with an cascade combobox, the storage of the data in a table.
>
>I have a small example database, who can help me with this?
>
>Thanks Pedro Janssen
>  
>

-- 
Marty Connelly
Victoria, B.C.
Canada



From pedro at plex.nl  Fri Nov 17 17:56:05 2006
From: pedro at plex.nl (Pedro Janssen)
Date: Sat, 18 Nov 2006 00:56:05 +0100
Subject: [AccessD] help with cascade combobox
References: <002b01c70a8d$62a9cc30$4001a8c0@qmotionfaa3ad9>
	<455E388C.8030004@shaw.ca>
Message-ID: <000401c70aa3$f20e29f0$4001a8c0@qmotionfaa3ad9>

Thanks Marty,

Making the cascade comboboxes is no problem, but storing the data in a table 
is the problem.
Is there an easier way to do this then the example in the second example 
that you refered to.

Pedro Janssen



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From: "MartyConnelly" <martyconnelly at shaw.ca>
To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving" 
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Friday, November 17, 2006 11:32 PM
Subject: Re: [AccessD] help with cascade combobox


> Maybe these examples will help
> http://www.rogersaccesslibrary.com/TableOfContents3.asp
>
> CascadingComboBoxes.mdb ( beginner )
> This sample illustrates how to restrict the value of one combo box based
> on the value of another.
>
> CascadingComboInSubform.mdb ( intermediate )
> Illustrates how to use Cascading Comboboxes in a continuous subform.
>
>
> Pedro Janssen wrote:
>
>>Hello Group,
>>
>>i need some help with an cascade combobox, the storage of the data in a 
>>table.
>>
>>I have a small example database, who can help me with this?
>>
>>Thanks Pedro Janssen
>>
>>
>
> -- 
> Marty Connelly
> Victoria, B.C.
> Canada
>
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> 



From martyconnelly at shaw.ca  Fri Nov 17 21:03:58 2006
From: martyconnelly at shaw.ca (MartyConnelly)
Date: Fri, 17 Nov 2006 19:03:58 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] help with cascade combobox
In-Reply-To: <000401c70aa3$f20e29f0$4001a8c0@qmotionfaa3ad9>
References: <002b01c70a8d$62a9cc30$4001a8c0@qmotionfaa3ad9>
	<455E388C.8030004@shaw.ca>
	<000401c70aa3$f20e29f0$4001a8c0@qmotionfaa3ad9>
Message-ID: <455E781E.5080102@shaw.ca>


How about something simple like
    Dim dbs As Database

    ' Modify this line to include the path to Northwind
    ' on your computer.
    Set dbs = OpenDatabase("Northwind.mdb")
   
    ' Create a new record in the Employees table. The
    ' first name is Harry, the last name is Washington,
    ' and the job title is Trainee.
    dbs.Execute " INSERT INTO Employees " _
        & "(FirstName,LastName, Title) VALUES " _
        & "('Harry', 'Washington', 'Trainee');"
       
    dbs.Close

You could ask a question like this to append records to a table or start 
with empty  table

If MsgBox("Do you want to create a new file table (yes: create, no: 
append)", vbYesNo) = vbYes Then
    DoCmd.RunSQL "DELETE DISTINCTROW Employees.FirstName FROM Employees;"
End If

Pedro Janssen wrote:

>Thanks Marty,
>
>Making the cascade comboboxes is no problem, but storing the data in a table 
>is the problem.
>Is there an easier way to do this then the example in the second example 
>that you refered to.
>
>Pedro Janssen
>
>
>
>----- Original Message ----- 
>From: "MartyConnelly" <martyconnelly at shaw.ca>
>To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving" 
><accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
>Sent: Friday, November 17, 2006 11:32 PM
>Subject: Re: [AccessD] help with cascade combobox
>
>
>  
>
>>Maybe these examples will help
>>http://www.rogersaccesslibrary.com/TableOfContents3.asp
>>
>>CascadingComboBoxes.mdb ( beginner )
>>This sample illustrates how to restrict the value of one combo box based
>>on the value of another.
>>
>>CascadingComboInSubform.mdb ( intermediate )
>>Illustrates how to use Cascading Comboboxes in a continuous subform.
>>
>>
>>Pedro Janssen wrote:
>>
>>    
>>
>>>Hello Group,
>>>
>>>i need some help with an cascade combobox, the storage of the data in a 
>>>table.
>>>
>>>I have a small example database, who can help me with this?
>>>
>>>Thanks Pedro Janssen
>>>
>>>
>>>      
>>>
>>-- 
>>Marty Connelly
>>Victoria, B.C.
>>Canada
>>
>>-- 
>>AccessD mailing list
>>AccessD at databaseadvisors.com
>>http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd
>>Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com
>>
>>    
>>
>
>  
>

-- 
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Victoria, B.C.
Canada



From robert at servicexp.com  Sun Nov 19 12:39:15 2006
From: robert at servicexp.com (Robert)
Date: Sun, 19 Nov 2006 13:39:15 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Connection String syntax
In-Reply-To: <455E781E.5080102@shaw.ca>
Message-ID: <000001c70c0a$0ee5dca0$dcc05005@roberts>


What is the correct syntax when opening from within a FE/BE MS Access when
user security has been moved to a difference, non system, .mdw?

This does not seem to do it..

"PROVIDER=Microsoft.Jet.OLEDB.4.0;DATA SOURCE=CurrentProject.Path &
FEDBName;User Id=administrator; Password=adminpassword"

Thanks 

Robert



From Gustav at cactus.dk  Sun Nov 19 13:04:35 2006
From: Gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Sun, 19 Nov 2006 20:04:35 +0100
Subject: [AccessD] Connection String syntax
Message-ID: <s560b8f1.030@cactus.dk>

Hi Robert

Drew posted this in Sep. 2003 which seems close to what you request:

<quote>


Function fDatabaseConnection(CurrCnn As ADODB.Connection, UserName As
String, PassWord As String)
Set CurrCnn = New ADODB.Connection
With CurrCnn
    .Provider = "Microsoft.Jet.OLEDB.4.0"
    .Properties("Jet OLEDB:System database").Value =
"T:\AccessDB\ISReq\Marlow1.mdw"
    .Open "T:\AccessDB\ISReq\ISReqBE.mdb", UserName, PassWord
End With
End Function

To use the function above, here's an example:

Dim cnn as ADODB.Connection
Dim rs as ADODB.Recordset
Dim strSQL as String
fDatabaseConnection cnn,"UserName","Password"
Set rs=new ADODB.recordset
strSQL="Select * From tblData;"
rs.open strSQL,cnn,adOpenKeyset,adLockReadOnly
if rs.EOF=false then rs.MoveFirst
Do until rs.EOF=True
	'Do something
	rs.MoveNext
Loop
rs.Close
Set rs=nothing
cnn.Close
set cnn=Nothing

Just a little sample code.  I know this code uses ADO, which is the default
in A2k, but in A97, DAO is default.  DAO is the native language for Jet
databases, but I find that ADO is FAR more flexible.  I can write code for
connecting to an Access database, and later on, if I change the data source,
I just have to modify the connection routine.

Drew

</quote>

/gustav

>>> robert at servicexp.com 19-11-2006 19:39:15 >>>

What is the correct syntax when opening from within a FE/BE MS Access when
user security has been moved to a difference, non system, .mdw?

This does not seem to do it..

"PROVIDER=Microsoft.Jet.OLEDB.4.0;DATA SOURCE=CurrentProject.Path &
FEDBName;User Id=administrator; Password=adminpassword"

Thanks 

Robert




From martyconnelly at shaw.ca  Sun Nov 19 13:29:04 2006
From: martyconnelly at shaw.ca (MartyConnelly)
Date: Sun, 19 Nov 2006 11:29:04 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] Connection String syntax
In-Reply-To: <000001c70c0a$0ee5dca0$dcc05005@roberts>
References: <000001c70c0a$0ee5dca0$dcc05005@roberts>
Message-ID: <4560B080.2040000@shaw.ca>

Carl Prothman has a site that provides ADO connection strings for a
wide variety  of databases and providers. Even though he has
switched over to the dark side.

http://www.carlprothman.net/Default.aspx?tabid=87#OLEDBProviderForMicrosoftJet

If using a Workgroup (System Database)

oConn.Open "Provider=Microsoft.Jet.OLEDB.4.0;" & _
           "Data Source=c:\somepath\mydb.mdb;" & _
           "Jet OLEDB:System Database=MySystem.mdw", _
           "myUsername", "myPassword"


Robert wrote:

>What is the correct syntax when opening from within a FE/BE MS Access when
>user security has been moved to a difference, non system, .mdw?
>
>This does not seem to do it..
>
>"PROVIDER=Microsoft.Jet.OLEDB.4.0;DATA SOURCE=CurrentProject.Path &
>FEDBName;User Id=administrator; Password=adminpassword"
>
>Thanks 
>
>Robert
>
>  
>

-- 
Marty Connelly
Victoria, B.C.
Canada



From ssharkins at setel.com  Sun Nov 19 13:38:27 2006
From: ssharkins at setel.com (ssharkins at setel.com)
Date: Sun, 19 Nov 2006 14:38:27 -0500 (EST)
Subject: [AccessD] Connection String syntax
In-Reply-To: <4560B080.2040000@shaw.ca>
References: <000001c70c0a$0ee5dca0$dcc05005@roberts> <4560B080.2040000@shaw.ca>
Message-ID: <1598.209.42.188.17.1163965107.squirrel@vmail.setel.com>

YOu can use Windows to create most connection strings -- I wonder if that
technique would apply here too?

Susan H.


 Carl Prothman has a site that provides ADO connection strings for a
> wide variety  of databases and providers. Even though he has
> switched over to the dark side.
>
> http://www.carlprothman.net/Default.aspx?tabid=87#OLEDBProviderForMicrosoftJet
>
> If using a Workgroup (System Database)
>
> oConn.Open "Provider=Microsoft.Jet.OLEDB.4.0;" & _
>            "Data Source=c:\somepath\mydb.mdb;" & _
>            "Jet OLEDB:System Database=MySystem.mdw", _
>            "myUsername", "myPassword"
>
>



From mwp.reid at qub.ac.uk  Sun Nov 19 14:46:44 2006
From: mwp.reid at qub.ac.uk (Martin Reid)
Date: Sun, 19 Nov 2006 20:46:44 -0000
Subject: [AccessD] Connection String syntax
References: <000001c70c0a$0ee5dca0$dcc05005@roberts> <4560B080.2040000@shaw.ca>
	<1598.209.42.188.17.1163965107.squirrel@vmail.setel.com>
Message-ID: <D0BF9C78D1C45C418541C852C8944FE2010861B6@qub-xchange-01.ads.qub.ac.uk>

funny I have never been able to get windows to do that. Creating the text file then changing the name and then using that to create the connection. Never works for me.
 
Maritn
 
Martin WP Reid
Training and Assessment Unit
Riddle Hall
Belfast
 
tel: 02890 974477
 

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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com on behalf of ssharkins at setel.com
Sent: Sun 19/11/2006 19:38
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Connection String syntax



YOu can use Windows to create most connection strings -- I wonder if that
technique would apply here too?

Susan H.


 Carl Prothman has a site that provides ADO connection strings for a
> wide variety  of databases and providers. Even though he has
> switched over to the dark side.
>
> http://www.carlprothman.net/Default.aspx?tabid=87#OLEDBProviderForMicrosoftJet
>
> If using a Workgroup (System Database)
>
> oConn.Open "Provider=Microsoft.Jet.OLEDB.4.0;" & _
>            "Data Source=c:\somepath\mydb.mdb;" & _
>            "Jet OLEDB:System Database=MySystem.mdw", _
>            "myUsername", "myPassword"
>
>

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From ssharkins at setel.com  Sun Nov 19 15:14:01 2006
From: ssharkins at setel.com (ssharkins at setel.com)
Date: Sun, 19 Nov 2006 16:14:01 -0500 (EST)
Subject: [AccessD] Connection String syntax
In-Reply-To: <D0BF9C78D1C45C418541C852C8944FE2010861B6@qub-xchange-01.ads.qub.ac.uk
	>
References: <000001c70c0a$0ee5dca0$dcc05005@roberts> <4560B080.2040000@shaw.ca>
	<1598.209.42.188.17.1163965107.squirrel@vmail.setel.com>
	<D0BF9C78D1C45C418541C852C8944FE2010861B6@qub-xchange-01.ads.qub.ac.uk>
Message-ID: <1673.209.42.184.169.1163970841.squirrel@vmail.setel.com>

> funny I have never been able to get windows to do that. Creating the text
> file then changing the name and then using that to create the connection.
> Never works for me.

=======I don't think we're talking about the same thing -- I'll have to
look up the article, but seems like you can capture the connection
arguments from a Windows property.

Susan H.



From robert at servicexp.com  Sun Nov 19 16:44:30 2006
From: robert at servicexp.com (Robert)
Date: Sun, 19 Nov 2006 17:44:30 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Connection String syntax
In-Reply-To: <4560B080.2040000@shaw.ca>
Message-ID: <000c01c70c2c$48e6d450$dcc05005@roberts>

Thanks A Million !

Happy Holidays!!

Robert 

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of MartyConnelly
Sent: Sunday, November 19, 2006 2:29 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Connection String syntax

Carl Prothman has a site that provides ADO connection strings for a wide
variety  of databases and providers. Even though he has switched over to the
dark side.

http://www.carlprothman.net/Default.aspx?tabid=87#OLEDBProviderForMicrosoftJ
et

If using a Workgroup (System Database)

oConn.Open "Provider=Microsoft.Jet.OLEDB.4.0;" & _
           "Data Source=c:\somepath\mydb.mdb;" & _
           "Jet OLEDB:System Database=MySystem.mdw", _
           "myUsername", "myPassword"


Robert wrote:

>What is the correct syntax when opening from within a FE/BE MS Access 
>when user security has been moved to a difference, non system, .mdw?
>
>This does not seem to do it..
>
>"PROVIDER=Microsoft.Jet.OLEDB.4.0;DATA SOURCE=CurrentProject.Path & 
>FEDBName;User Id=administrator; Password=adminpassword"
>
>Thanks
>
>Robert
>
>  
>

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Canada

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From bheid at sc.rr.com  Sun Nov 19 20:16:05 2006
From: bheid at sc.rr.com (Bobby Heid)
Date: Sun, 19 Nov 2006 21:16:05 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] FW: [U] Soldier in Iraq needs Access Help
In-Reply-To: <8301C8A868251E4C8ECD3D4FFEA40F8A2584B6EF@cpixchng-1.cpiqpc.net>
Message-ID: <000601c70c49$d601b310$2d01a8c0@bhxp>

Rusty,

The only problem with this is IED is at the start of a sentence or is
followed by a period, commas, etc.

Bobby 

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of
rusty.hammond at cpiqpc.com
Sent: Friday, November 17, 2006 2:17 PM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: Re: [AccessD] FW: [U] Soldier in Iraq needs Access Help

Rocky,

These ideas aren't what he's asking for but they might help him speed up his
search a little bit.

To help his search he could in a query put Like "* IED *" in the criteria of
his query.  That should only return those records where IED is surrounded by
spaces on either side thus not being part of another word.

Another option, which isn't as nice as the Google search he refers to, is to
flag each article that has an instance of IED via an update query, export
those flagged records out to a word document via a report, then run Find and
Replace in Word and use the "Highlight All Items Found In" option. I know
this option is found in Word 2003 and not in 97.  I don't about the versions
in between.

HTH,

Rusty


-----Original Message-----
From: Beach Access Software [mailto:bchacc at san.rr.com]
Sent: Friday, November 17, 2006 11:24 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] FW: [U] Soldier in Iraq needs Access Help


Anyone want to tackle this one?  Sounds like an interesting project.

 

Rocky

 

 

  _____  

From: Access Users Group of San Diego [mailto:admin at augsd.org] 
Sent: Friday, November 17, 2006 8:59 AM
To: Wayne Warren-Angelucci; Rocky Smolin; Mark J. Krisburg; Joe Anderson;
Dixon Foss; Barry Hynum (E-mail); Mike Dwyer; Ed Lance; Doug Murphy; Dixon
Foss; Jackie Murphy (E-mail)
Subject: FW: [U] Soldier in Iraq needs Access Help

 

 

-----Original Message-----
From: Newsom Lester SFC MNFI STARTEFF
[mailto:lester.newsom at iraq.centcom.mil]
Sent: Wednesday, November 01, 2006 9:12 AM
To: admin at augsd.org
Subject: [U] Soldier in Iraq needs Access Help

Classification: UNCLASSIFIED 

Greetings from Baghdad.

 

I am not one to ask for help until I have absolutely driven myself to the
edge. It is my hope that you or one of your experts can shed some light on
what I am trying to get Access to do.

 

There are actually two things, but first an explanation of what the database
does. A team of translators interpret local Iraqi newscasts which are
transcribed and input into the database. These transcriptions are referred
back to on a regular basis via requests to my office by the higher-ups. A
typical request would be along the lines of "Give me the instances over the
past two weeks Prime Minister Maliki has said he likes the U.S." or, "Give
me every article referring to IED's exploding in the past month"

 

A simple query of course, returns the date range and all articles whereas
the word "Maliki" appears. I am helped by the fact that Maliki does not
appear in the dictionary so I can scan through the articles, deleting those
that are not relevant. I cannot however discern when IED is actually part of
another word. 

 

What I would like to accomplish, is highlighting my text query, much like
Google does in its cached pages. So, those words that I search for are
highlighted, giving me a visual reference. 

 

I have tried constructing a macro to do the action and have also searched
high and low in the Help files and the Internet.. Perhaps this makes perfect
sense to you and you can point me in the right direction.

 

Thank you in advance for your time.

 

SFC Lester Newsom

Baghdad, Iraq



From rusty.hammond at cpiqpc.com  Sun Nov 19 21:18:02 2006
From: rusty.hammond at cpiqpc.com (rusty.hammond at cpiqpc.com)
Date: Sun, 19 Nov 2006 21:18:02 -0600
Subject: [AccessD] FW: [U] Soldier in Iraq needs Access Help
Message-ID: <8301C8A868251E4C8ECD3D4FFEA40F8A2584B6F8@cpixchng-1.cpiqpc.net>

Good point.  Hmmm, I wonder if there is a way to do what he wants in Access?



-----Original Message-----
From: Bobby Heid [mailto:bheid at sc.rr.com]
Sent: Sunday, November 19, 2006 8:16 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: Re: [AccessD] FW: [U] Soldier in Iraq needs Access Help


Rusty,

The only problem with this is IED is at the start of a sentence or is
followed by a period, commas, etc.

Bobby 

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of
rusty.hammond at cpiqpc.com
Sent: Friday, November 17, 2006 2:17 PM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: Re: [AccessD] FW: [U] Soldier in Iraq needs Access Help

Rocky,

These ideas aren't what he's asking for but they might help him speed up his
search a little bit.

To help his search he could in a query put Like "* IED *" in the criteria of
his query.  That should only return those records where IED is surrounded by
spaces on either side thus not being part of another word.

Another option, which isn't as nice as the Google search he refers to, is to
flag each article that has an instance of IED via an update query, export
those flagged records out to a word document via a report, then run Find and
Replace in Word and use the "Highlight All Items Found In" option. I know
this option is found in Word 2003 and not in 97.  I don't about the versions
in between.

HTH,

Rusty



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From dwaters at usinternet.com  Sun Nov 19 22:36:57 2006
From: dwaters at usinternet.com (Dan Waters)
Date: Sun, 19 Nov 2006 22:36:57 -0600
Subject: [AccessD] FW: [U] Soldier in Iraq needs Access Help
In-Reply-To: <7479825.1163989146973.JavaMail.root@sniper44>
Message-ID: <001101c70c5d$838ee3a0$0200a8c0@danwaters>

How about  

LIKE "*IED*"  ----------  or more generically:  LIKE "*" & txtCriteria & "*"

instead of

LIKE "* IED *"  (leave out the spaces)

I do this in some queries and it picks things up at the beginning, middle,
or end.

Dan Waters



-----Original Message-----
Subject: Re: [AccessD] FW: [U] Soldier in Iraq needs Access Help

Rusty,

The only problem with this is IED is at the start of a sentence or is
followed by a period, commas, etc.

Bobby 

-----Original Message-----
Subject: Re: [AccessD] FW: [U] Soldier in Iraq needs Access Help

Rocky,

These ideas aren't what he's asking for but they might help him speed up his
search a little bit.

To help his search he could in a query put Like "* IED *" in the criteria of
his query.  That should only return those records where IED is surrounded by
spaces on either side thus not being part of another word.

Another option, which isn't as nice as the Google search he refers to, is to
flag each article that has an instance of IED via an update query, export
those flagged records out to a word document via a report, then run Find and
Replace in Word and use the "Highlight All Items Found In" option. I know
this option is found in Word 2003 and not in 97.  I don't about the versions
in between.

HTH,

Rusty


-----Original Message-----
Subject: [AccessD] FW: [U] Soldier in Iraq needs Access Help


Anyone want to tackle this one?  Sounds like an interesting project.

 

Rocky

 

 

Subject: [U] Soldier in Iraq needs Access Help

Classification: UNCLASSIFIED 

Greetings from Baghdad.

 

I am not one to ask for help until I have absolutely driven myself to the
edge. It is my hope that you or one of your experts can shed some light on
what I am trying to get Access to do.

 

There are actually two things, but first an explanation of what the database
does. A team of translators interpret local Iraqi newscasts which are
transcribed and input into the database. These transcriptions are referred
back to on a regular basis via requests to my office by the higher-ups. A
typical request would be along the lines of "Give me the instances over the
past two weeks Prime Minister Maliki has said he likes the U.S." or, "Give
me every article referring to IED's exploding in the past month"

 

A simple query of course, returns the date range and all articles whereas
the word "Maliki" appears. I am helped by the fact that Maliki does not
appear in the dictionary so I can scan through the articles, deleting those
that are not relevant. I cannot however discern when IED is actually part of
another word. 

 

What I would like to accomplish, is highlighting my text query, much like
Google does in its cached pages. So, those words that I search for are
highlighted, giving me a visual reference. 

 

I have tried constructing a macro to do the action and have also searched
high and low in the Help files and the Internet.. Perhaps this makes perfect
sense to you and you can point me in the right direction.

 

Thank you in advance for your time.

 

SFC Lester Newsom

Baghdad, Iraq




From dwaters at usinternet.com  Sun Nov 19 22:39:26 2006
From: dwaters at usinternet.com (Dan Waters)
Date: Sun, 19 Nov 2006 22:39:26 -0600
Subject: [AccessD] Send an Outlook Meeting Invitation
Message-ID: <001201c70c5d$dc5924f0$0200a8c0@danwaters>

Has anyone used Access to send out an Outlook Meeting Invitation?

Or know where I could go to find out how?

Thanks!
Dan Waters



From stuart at lexacorp.com.pg  Sun Nov 19 23:58:40 2006
From: stuart at lexacorp.com.pg (Stuart McLachlan)
Date: Mon, 20 Nov 2006 15:58:40 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] FW: [U] Soldier in Iraq needs Access Help
In-Reply-To: <001101c70c5d$838ee3a0$0200a8c0@danwaters>
References: <7479825.1163989146973.JavaMail.root@sniper44>,
	<001101c70c5d$838ee3a0$0200a8c0@danwaters>
Message-ID: <4561D0B0.25840.8ADDC19C@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>

On 19 Nov 2006 at 22:36, Dan Waters wrote:

> How about  
> 
> LIKE "*IED*"  ----------  or more generically:  LIKE "*" & txtCriteria & "*"
> 
> instead of
> 
> LIKE "* IED *"  (leave out the spaces)
> 

That will pick up anything from  died to antieducational ( and the hundreds of others at 
http://www.morewords.com/contains-by-length/ied/ <g>)

To find text containing IED as a word by itself you need something similar to 

LIKE "*[( "]IED[ ).,:;?]*"
or
LIKE "IED[ ).,:;?]*"
or
LIKE Chr$(13) & chr$(10) & "IED[ ).,:;?]*"
or
LIKE "* IED"


Actually it would probably be a lot easier to add a reference "Microsoft VBScript Regular Expresssion 5.x"
and build a function using a proper Regex to locate text blocks containing the desired targets.







From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com  Mon Nov 20 06:01:24 2006
From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (JWColby)
Date: Mon, 20 Nov 2006 07:01:24 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Create object
Message-ID: <001d01c70c9b$9aa61bb0$657aa8c0@m6805>

I am trying to open multiple instances of 3DFTP and assign each instance to
a different class instance inside of Access.  When I use the syntax:
 
'
'In class header
'
Private mFtpXObj As Object ' FtpXObj

    '
    'In init function
    '
    'Start 3D-FTP loading, if not already running
    Set mFtpXObj = CreateObject("FTP.API")

The first class instance correctly opens 3DFTP but the second class instance
does not, it simply gets a pointer to the already opened 3DFTP instance.
 
AFAIK I can't use the NEW() syntax since I don't have early binding, IOW I
don't have a clue what FTP.API actually is and therefore can't reference it
in Access.  According to the help file, CreateObject is supposed to open a
new instance of the object anyway so I really should be able to do this.
 
Any thoughts?
 
John W. Colby
Colby Consulting
www.ColbyConsulting.com
 


From Gustav at cactus.dk  Mon Nov 20 06:21:48 2006
From: Gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Mon, 20 Nov 2006 13:21:48 +0100
Subject: [AccessD] Create object
Message-ID: <s561abfe.039@cactus.dk>

Hi John

I have no solution for you, but why not address support at support at sitedesigner.com

/gustav

>>> jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com 20-11-2006 13:01:24 >>>
I am trying to open multiple instances of 3DFTP and assign each instance to
a different class instance inside of Access.  When I use the syntax:
 
'
'In class header
'
Private mFtpXObj As Object ' FtpXObj

    '
    'In init function
    '
    'Start 3D-FTP loading, if not already running
    Set mFtpXObj = CreateObject("ftp.API")

The first class instance correctly opens 3DFTP but the second class instance
does not, it simply gets a pointer to the already opened 3DFTP instance.
 
AFAIK I can't use the NEW() syntax since I don't have early binding, IOW I
don't have a clue what ftp.API actually is and therefore can't reference it
in Access.  According to the help file, CreateObject is supposed to open a
new instance of the object anyway so I really should be able to do this.
 
Any thoughts?
 
John W. Colby
Colby Consulting
www.ColbyConsulting.com 




From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com  Mon Nov 20 07:16:24 2006
From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (JWColby)
Date: Mon, 20 Nov 2006 08:16:24 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Create object
In-Reply-To: <s561abfe.039@cactus.dk>
Message-ID: <002201c70ca6$14eeb080$657aa8c0@m6805>

Well basically because this is the smartest bunch of folks I know, and this
is a VBA question.  It is specifically trying to open 3DFTP but the question
would be the same for opening Excel, Word etc.  I assume that they would
react the same way.

I will look at that resource though. 


John W. Colby
Colby Consulting
www.ColbyConsulting.com

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gustav Brock
Sent: Monday, November 20, 2006 7:22 AM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Create object

Hi John

I have no solution for you, but why not address support at
support at sitedesigner.com

/gustav

>>> jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com 20-11-2006 13:01:24 >>>
I am trying to open multiple instances of 3DFTP and assign each instance to
a different class instance inside of Access.  When I use the syntax:
 
'
'In class header
'
Private mFtpXObj As Object ' FtpXObj

    '
    'In init function
    '
    'Start 3D-FTP loading, if not already running
    Set mFtpXObj = CreateObject("ftp.API")

The first class instance correctly opens 3DFTP but the second class instance
does not, it simply gets a pointer to the already opened 3DFTP instance.
 
AFAIK I can't use the NEW() syntax since I don't have early binding, IOW I
don't have a clue what ftp.API actually is and therefore can't reference it
in Access.  According to the help file, CreateObject is supposed to open a
new instance of the object anyway so I really should be able to do this.
 
Any thoughts?
 
John W. Colby
Colby Consulting
www.ColbyConsulting.com 


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From mmattys at rochester.rr.com  Mon Nov 20 07:58:45 2006
From: mmattys at rochester.rr.com (Michael R Mattys)
Date: Mon, 20 Nov 2006 08:58:45 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Create object
References: <002201c70ca6$14eeb080$657aa8c0@m6805>
Message-ID: <00de01c70cab$ffceeac0$0302a8c0@default>

Thought ...

It may be that since this thing is multi-threaded,
you can only create one instance by design.

So, you might look at creating one of their vbs plug-ins
to pass more connections to it or something ...

Michael R. Mattys
A MapPoint Developer
www.mattysconsulting.com

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "JWColby" <jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com>
To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'" 
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Monday, November 20, 2006 8:16 AM
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Create object


> Well basically because this is the smartest bunch of folks I know, and 
> this
> is a VBA question.  It is specifically trying to open 3DFTP but the 
> question
> would be the same for opening Excel, Word etc.  I assume that they would
> react the same way.
>
> I will look at that resource though.
>
>
> John W. Colby
> Colby Consulting
> www.ColbyConsulting.com



From jimdettman at verizon.net  Mon Nov 20 08:05:38 2006
From: jimdettman at verizon.net (Jim Dettman)
Date: Mon, 20 Nov 2006 09:05:38 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Create object
In-Reply-To: <001d01c70c9b$9aa61bb0$657aa8c0@m6805>
Message-ID: <015001c70cac$f80c6aa0$8abea8c0@XPS>

John,

  Even though your using CreateObject, it's really up to the automation
server if it's capable of multi-instance use.

  I would do what gustav suggested and give them a call to find out if it is
multi-instance capable.

Jim. 

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of JWColby
Sent: Monday, November 20, 2006 7:01 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] Create object

I am trying to open multiple instances of 3DFTP and assign each instance to
a different class instance inside of Access.  When I use the syntax:
 
'
'In class header
'
Private mFtpXObj As Object ' FtpXObj

    '
    'In init function
    '
    'Start 3D-FTP loading, if not already running
    Set mFtpXObj = CreateObject("FTP.API")

The first class instance correctly opens 3DFTP but the second class instance
does not, it simply gets a pointer to the already opened 3DFTP instance.
 
AFAIK I can't use the NEW() syntax since I don't have early binding, IOW I
don't have a clue what FTP.API actually is and therefore can't reference it
in Access.  According to the help file, CreateObject is supposed to open a
new instance of the object anyway so I really should be able to do this.
 
Any thoughts?
 
John W. Colby
Colby Consulting
www.ColbyConsulting.com
 
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From mikedorism at verizon.net  Mon Nov 20 08:21:15 2006
From: mikedorism at verizon.net (Doris Manning)
Date: Mon, 20 Nov 2006 09:21:15 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Send an Outlook Meeting Invitation
In-Reply-To: <001201c70c5d$dc5924f0$0200a8c0@danwaters>
Message-ID: <000301c70caf$2d0a5350$2f01a8c0@Kermit>

OutlookCode.com is my favorite research place for questions like this.

Main website... www.outlookcode.com

Sending a meeting request programmatically...
http://www.outlookcode.com/codedetail.aspx?id=88

Doris Manning
Database Administrator
Hargrove Inc.

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Dan Waters
Sent: Sunday, November 19, 2006 11:39 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] Send an Outlook Meeting Invitation

Has anyone used Access to send out an Outlook Meeting Invitation?

Or know where I could go to find out how?

Thanks!
Dan Waters

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From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com  Mon Nov 20 08:22:29 2006
From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (JWColby)
Date: Mon, 20 Nov 2006 09:22:29 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Create object
In-Reply-To: <00de01c70cab$ffceeac0$0302a8c0@default>
Message-ID: <002301c70caf$501b8760$657aa8c0@m6805>

Well, that's a good thought, but I can manually click the 3DFTP hotlink and
it opens multiple times.  Further I can log in to my ftp site with one
instance and an insurer's site with another.  That would indicate that 3DFTP
itself can have multiple instances open at the same time.

I am trying to keep this as simple as possible.  I have written a class that
opens 3DFTP, grabs a pointer and passes through functionality that the API
exposes. It would be nice to be able to instantiate my class more than once,
downloading data from one site, uploading to another.  As we all know, some
sites are faster than others.  If I do this stuff serially, I potentially
waste bandwidth on slow ftp sites that could be used to transfer files in a
second instance of 3DFTP.

Unfortunately as things sit, if a 3DFTP instance is open, my class grabs a
pointer to it.  If I instantiate my class a second time, the second instance
grabs a pointer to the already open 3DFTP instance and starts manipulating
it.  Not exactly what I would like to happen.  

I am writing modules to grab files from insurance companies, unencrypt them
and load the data into tables, displaying the loaded data in a tab of a form
on the user's Access application.  There are multiple insurance companies
that I need to do this for.  Each has their own ftp site and their own file
structure, the data goes into their own table (at least initially) and are
possibly displayed on their own tab.  Additionally I have to upload data
back to the insurance company's FTP site.  These downloads / uploads will
likely be scheduled for the middle of the night but it would still be useful
if I could do them all simultaneously.  

Because of the differences between the files, the encryption etc., my
intention was to have a module / class for each insurer, using my
(standardized) 3DFTP class to do the transfer grunt work.

AFAIK, one instance of 3DFTP can queue files to transfer up/down, but they
all go to the same ftp site.  In my case I need to do up/down to multiple
ftp sites.  It would be disastrous if a second instance of MY CLASS grabbed
an existing instance of 3DFTP which was hard at work, took it over, logged
in to another site and started transferring data.  Or even worse had a queue
of files destined for one FTP site suddenly being sent to someone else's FTP
site.

John W. Colby
Colby Consulting
www.ColbyConsulting.com

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Michael R Mattys
Sent: Monday, November 20, 2006 8:59 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Create object

Thought ...

It may be that since this thing is multi-threaded, you can only create one
instance by design.

So, you might look at creating one of their vbs plug-ins to pass more
connections to it or something ...

Michael R. Mattys
A MapPoint Developer
www.mattysconsulting.com

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From: "JWColby" <jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com>
To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'" 
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Monday, November 20, 2006 8:16 AM
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Create object


> Well basically because this is the smartest bunch of folks I know, and 
> this
> is a VBA question.  It is specifically trying to open 3DFTP but the 
> question
> would be the same for opening Excel, Word etc.  I assume that they would
> react the same way.
>
> I will look at that resource though.
>
>
> John W. Colby
> Colby Consulting
> www.ColbyConsulting.com

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From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com  Mon Nov 20 08:26:24 2006
From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (JWColby)
Date: Mon, 20 Nov 2006 09:26:24 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Create object
In-Reply-To: <s561abfe.039@cactus.dk>
Message-ID: <002401c70caf$dc2682f0$657aa8c0@m6805>

I am a little confused Gustav, SiteDesigner is not 3DFTP.  I could go with
these people if I have to but I have always been very happy with 3D.

John W. Colby
Colby Consulting
www.ColbyConsulting.com

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gustav Brock
Sent: Monday, November 20, 2006 7:22 AM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Create object

Hi John

I have no solution for you, but why not address support at
support at sitedesigner.com

/gustav

>>> jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com 20-11-2006 13:01:24 >>>
I am trying to open multiple instances of 3DFTP and assign each instance to
a different class instance inside of Access.  When I use the syntax:
 
'
'In class header
'
Private mFtpXObj As Object ' FtpXObj

    '
    'In init function
    '
    'Start 3D-FTP loading, if not already running
    Set mFtpXObj = CreateObject("ftp.API")

The first class instance correctly opens 3DFTP but the second class instance
does not, it simply gets a pointer to the already opened 3DFTP instance.
 
AFAIK I can't use the NEW() syntax since I don't have early binding, IOW I
don't have a clue what ftp.API actually is and therefore can't reference it
in Access.  According to the help file, CreateObject is supposed to open a
new instance of the object anyway so I really should be able to do this.
 
Any thoughts?
 
John W. Colby
Colby Consulting
www.ColbyConsulting.com 


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From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com  Mon Nov 20 08:36:25 2006
From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (JWColby)
Date: Mon, 20 Nov 2006 09:36:25 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Create object
In-Reply-To: <002401c70caf$dc2682f0$657aa8c0@m6805>
Message-ID: <002d01c70cb1$4207a350$657aa8c0@m6805>

Gustav,

Never mind, I found that they are referenced in the 3D help.  I have emailed
them.

John W. Colby
Colby Consulting
www.ColbyConsulting.com

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of JWColby
Sent: Monday, November 20, 2006 9:26 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Create object

I am a little confused Gustav, SiteDesigner is not 3DFTP.  I could go with
these people if I have to but I have always been very happy with 3D.

John W. Colby
Colby Consulting
www.ColbyConsulting.com

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gustav Brock
Sent: Monday, November 20, 2006 7:22 AM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Create object

Hi John

I have no solution for you, but why not address support at
support at sitedesigner.com

/gustav

>>> jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com 20-11-2006 13:01:24 >>>
I am trying to open multiple instances of 3DFTP and assign each instance to
a different class instance inside of Access.  When I use the syntax:
 
'
'In class header
'
Private mFtpXObj As Object ' FtpXObj

    '
    'In init function
    '
    'Start 3D-FTP loading, if not already running
    Set mFtpXObj = CreateObject("ftp.API")

The first class instance correctly opens 3DFTP but the second class instance
does not, it simply gets a pointer to the already opened 3DFTP instance.
 
AFAIK I can't use the NEW() syntax since I don't have early binding, IOW I
don't have a clue what ftp.API actually is and therefore can't reference it
in Access.  According to the help file, CreateObject is supposed to open a
new instance of the object anyway so I really should be able to do this.
 
Any thoughts?
 
John W. Colby
Colby Consulting
www.ColbyConsulting.com 


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From mmattys at rochester.rr.com  Mon Nov 20 08:48:24 2006
From: mmattys at rochester.rr.com (Michael R Mattys)
Date: Mon, 20 Nov 2006 09:48:24 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Create object
References: <002301c70caf$501b8760$657aa8c0@m6805>
Message-ID: <010e01c70cb2$f7d657c0$0302a8c0@default>

I've never used it, but I may have to soon.

Is it possible to Shell (the shortcut) and FindWindow,
then get the pointer?

Michael R. Mattys
A MapPoint Developer
www.mattysconsulting.com

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "JWColby" <jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com>
To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'" 
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Monday, November 20, 2006 9:22 AM
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Create object


> Well, that's a good thought, but I can manually click the 3DFTP hotlink 
> and
> it opens multiple times.  Further I can log in to my ftp site with one
> instance and an insurer's site with another.  That would indicate that 
> 3DFTP
> itself can have multiple instances open at the same time.
>
> I am trying to keep this as simple as possible.  I have written a class 
> that
> opens 3DFTP, grabs a pointer and passes through functionality that the API
> exposes. It would be nice to be able to instantiate my class more than 
> once,
> downloading data from one site, uploading to another.  As we all know, 
> some
> sites are faster than others.  If I do this stuff serially, I potentially
> waste bandwidth on slow ftp sites that could be used to transfer files in 
> a
> second instance of 3DFTP.
>
> Unfortunately as things sit, if a 3DFTP instance is open, my class grabs a
> pointer to it.  If I instantiate my class a second time, the second 
> instance
> grabs a pointer to the already open 3DFTP instance and starts manipulating
> it.  Not exactly what I would like to happen.
>
> I am writing modules to grab files from insurance companies, unencrypt 
> them
> and load the data into tables, displaying the loaded data in a tab of a 
> form
> on the user's Access application.  There are multiple insurance companies
> that I need to do this for.  Each has their own ftp site and their own 
> file
> structure, the data goes into their own table (at least initially) and are
> possibly displayed on their own tab.  Additionally I have to upload data
> back to the insurance company's FTP site.  These downloads / uploads will
> likely be scheduled for the middle of the night but it would still be 
> useful
> if I could do them all simultaneously.
>
> Because of the differences between the files, the encryption etc., my
> intention was to have a module / class for each insurer, using my
> (standardized) 3DFTP class to do the transfer grunt work.
>
> AFAIK, one instance of 3DFTP can queue files to transfer up/down, but they
> all go to the same ftp site.  In my case I need to do up/down to multiple
> ftp sites.  It would be disastrous if a second instance of MY CLASS 
> grabbed
> an existing instance of 3DFTP which was hard at work, took it over, logged
> in to another site and started transferring data.  Or even worse had a 
> queue
> of files destined for one FTP site suddenly being sent to someone else's 
> FTP
> site.
>
> John W. Colby
> Colby Consulting
> www.ColbyConsulting.com
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Michael R 
> Mattys
> Sent: Monday, November 20, 2006 8:59 AM
> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] Create object
>
> Thought ...
>
> It may be that since this thing is multi-threaded, you can only create one
> instance by design.
>
> So, you might look at creating one of their vbs plug-ins to pass more
> connections to it or something ...
>
> Michael R. Mattys
> A MapPoint Developer
> www.mattysconsulting.com
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "JWColby" <jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com>
> To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'"
> <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
> Sent: Monday, November 20, 2006 8:16 AM
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] Create object
>
>
>> Well basically because this is the smartest bunch of folks I know, and
>> this
>> is a VBA question.  It is specifically trying to open 3DFTP but the
>> question
>> would be the same for opening Excel, Word etc.  I assume that they would
>> react the same way.
>>
>> I will look at that resource though.
>>
>>
>> John W. Colby
>> Colby Consulting
>> www.ColbyConsulting.com
>
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From Gustav at cactus.dk  Mon Nov 20 08:45:13 2006
From: Gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Mon, 20 Nov 2006 15:45:13 +0100
Subject: [AccessD] Create object
Message-ID: <s561cd9e.047@cactus.dk>

Hi John

Same company:

http://www.sitedesigner.com/history.htm 

/gustav


>>> jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com 20-11-2006 15:36:25 >>>
Gustav,

Never mind, I found that they are referenced in the 3D help.  I have emailed
them.

John W. Colby
Colby Consulting
www.ColbyConsulting.com 

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com 
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of JWColby
Sent: Monday, November 20, 2006 9:26 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Create object

I am a little confused Gustav, SiteDesigner is not 3DFTP.  I could go with
these people if I have to but I have always been very happy with 3D.

John W. Colby
Colby Consulting
www.ColbyConsulting.com 

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com 
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gustav Brock
Sent: Monday, November 20, 2006 7:22 AM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com 
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Create object

Hi John

I have no solution for you, but why not address support at
support at sitedesigner.com 

/gustav




From dwaters at usinternet.com  Mon Nov 20 09:18:49 2006
From: dwaters at usinternet.com (Dan Waters)
Date: Mon, 20 Nov 2006 09:18:49 -0600
Subject: [AccessD] Send an Outlook Meeting Invitation
In-Reply-To: <8948412.1164032942648.JavaMail.root@sniper47>
Message-ID: <001701c70cb7$2e9f78a0$0200a8c0@danwaters>

That's Great!  I can see why this is your favorite Outlook site!

Thank You!

Dan Waters

-----Original Message-----
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Send an Outlook Meeting Invitation

OutlookCode.com is my favorite research place for questions like this.

Main website... www.outlookcode.com

Sending a meeting request programmatically...
http://www.outlookcode.com/codedetail.aspx?id=88

Doris Manning
Database Administrator
Hargrove Inc.

-----Original Message-----
Subject: [AccessD] Send an Outlook Meeting Invitation

Has anyone used Access to send out an Outlook Meeting Invitation?

Or know where I could go to find out how?

Thanks!
Dan Waters



From accessd at shaw.ca  Mon Nov 20 11:26:20 2006
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Mon, 20 Nov 2006 09:26:20 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] Create object
In-Reply-To: <001d01c70c9b$9aa61bb0$657aa8c0@m6805>
Message-ID: <0J9100CJ0HOZNM43@l-daemon>

Hi John:

The problem would appear to be with 3D-FTP which is designed to only open as
a single instance, per computer....

Jim

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of JWColby
Sent: Monday, November 20, 2006 4:01 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] Create object

I am trying to open multiple instances of 3DFTP and assign each instance to
a different class instance inside of Access.  When I use the syntax:
 
'
'In class header
'
Private mFtpXObj As Object ' FtpXObj

    '
    'In init function
    '
    'Start 3D-FTP loading, if not already running
    Set mFtpXObj = CreateObject("FTP.API")

The first class instance correctly opens 3DFTP but the second class instance
does not, it simply gets a pointer to the already opened 3DFTP instance.
 
AFAIK I can't use the NEW() syntax since I don't have early binding, IOW I
don't have a clue what FTP.API actually is and therefore can't reference it
in Access.  According to the help file, CreateObject is supposed to open a
new instance of the object anyway so I really should be able to do this.
 
Any thoughts?
 
John W. Colby
Colby Consulting
www.ColbyConsulting.com
 
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From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com  Mon Nov 20 13:35:45 2006
From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (JWColby)
Date: Mon, 20 Nov 2006 14:35:45 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Create object
In-Reply-To: <0J9100CJ0HOZNM43@l-daemon>
Message-ID: <000601c70cdb$137563e0$657aa8c0@m6805>

Well... I can open multiple instances manually.

John W. Colby
Colby Consulting
www.ColbyConsulting.com

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim Lawrence
Sent: Monday, November 20, 2006 12:26 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Create object

Hi John:

The problem would appear to be with 3D-FTP which is designed to only open as
a single instance, per computer....

Jim

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of JWColby
Sent: Monday, November 20, 2006 4:01 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] Create object

I am trying to open multiple instances of 3DFTP and assign each instance to
a different class instance inside of Access.  When I use the syntax:
 
'
'In class header
'
Private mFtpXObj As Object ' FtpXObj

    '
    'In init function
    '
    'Start 3D-FTP loading, if not already running
    Set mFtpXObj = CreateObject("FTP.API")

The first class instance correctly opens 3DFTP but the second class instance
does not, it simply gets a pointer to the already opened 3DFTP instance.
 
AFAIK I can't use the NEW() syntax since I don't have early binding, IOW I
don't have a clue what FTP.API actually is and therefore can't reference it
in Access.  According to the help file, CreateObject is supposed to open a
new instance of the object anyway so I really should be able to do this.
 
Any thoughts?
 
John W. Colby
Colby Consulting
www.ColbyConsulting.com
 
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From martyconnelly at shaw.ca  Mon Nov 20 13:50:23 2006
From: martyconnelly at shaw.ca (MartyConnelly)
Date: Mon, 20 Nov 2006 11:50:23 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] FW: [U] Soldier in Iraq needs Access Help
In-Reply-To: <003201c70a6d$33c351e0$6401a8c0@HAL9005>
References: <003201c70a6d$33c351e0$6401a8c0@HAL9005>
Message-ID: <456206FF.5030506@shaw.ca>

I would probably do this with SQL Server 2005 Express Edition
with Advanced Services.SQL Server 2005 Express Edition with
Advanced Services is perfect for use as a backend to a small, multiuser
application that requires more advanced features such as Web reporting 
or Full-text Search.
You could do this with the full version of SQL 2000 but now is available 
in Express.

SQL Server 2000 provides a rich text-data retrieval system and
an enhanced full-text search service that enables you to perform a 
linguistic
search of character data in tables enabled for full-text search.
A linguistic search operates on words and phrases.
The linguistic search is not supported for Arabic, but other parts of 
full-text search are.

Creating Full-Text Index
To accomplish a full-text search, you must create a full-text index on 
the specific column
you wish to search. To index a column in a table you are viewing, use 
the Full-Text Indexing Wizard.
In the Select Table Columns page, find the column you wish to index and,
in the Language for Word Breaker list, select Neutral.
Choosing this option enables your index to work with Arabic even though 
that language
is not included in the list of supported languages.
In general, use this option when a column contains data in multiple 
languages or in an unsupported language

http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/default.asp?url=/library/en-us/dnsql2k/html/sql_arabicsupport.asp


You could do this with Google Desktop Search Engine via VBA API calls to 
return xml files
of retrieved data ranked by date or relevance. Caveats Security, Need 
addon's to
look deep into text and pdf files beyond 4000 characters.

Vista is supposed to have an inbuilt text search engine.




Beach Access Software wrote:

>Anyone want to tackle this one?  Sounds like an interesting project.
>
> 
>
>Rocky
>
> 
>
> 
>
>  _____  
>
>From: Access Users Group of San Diego [mailto:admin at augsd.org] 
>Sent: Friday, November 17, 2006 8:59 AM
>To: Wayne Warren-Angelucci; Rocky Smolin; Mark J. Krisburg; Joe Anderson;
>Dixon Foss; Barry Hynum (E-mail); Mike Dwyer; Ed Lance; Doug Murphy; Dixon
>Foss; Jackie Murphy (E-mail)
>Subject: FW: [U] Soldier in Iraq needs Access Help
>
> 
>
> 
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Newsom Lester SFC MNFI STARTEFF
>[mailto:lester.newsom at iraq.centcom.mil]
>Sent: Wednesday, November 01, 2006 9:12 AM
>To: admin at augsd.org
>Subject: [U] Soldier in Iraq needs Access Help
>
>Classification: UNCLASSIFIED 
>
>Greetings from Baghdad.
>
> 
>
>I am not one to ask for help until I have absolutely driven myself to the
>edge. It is my hope that you or one of your experts can shed some light on
>what I am trying to get Access to do.
>
> 
>
>There are actually two things, but first an explanation of what the database
>does. A team of translators interpret local Iraqi newscasts which are
>transcribed and input into the database. These transcriptions are referred
>back to on a regular basis via requests to my office by the higher-ups. A
>typical request would be along the lines of "Give me the instances over the
>past two weeks Prime Minister Maliki has said he likes the U.S." or, "Give
>me every article referring to IED's exploding in the past month"
>
> 
>
>A simple query of course, returns the date range and all articles whereas
>the word "Maliki" appears. I am helped by the fact that Maliki does not
>appear in the dictionary so I can scan through the articles, deleting those
>that are not relevant. I cannot however discern when IED is actually part of
>another word. 
>
> 
>
>What I would like to accomplish, is highlighting my text query, much like
>Google does in its cached pages. So, those words that I search for are
>highlighted, giving me a visual reference. 
>
> 
>
>I have tried constructing a macro to do the action and have also searched
>high and low in the Help files and the Internet.. Perhaps this makes perfect
>sense to you and you can point me in the right direction.
>
> 
>
>Thank you in advance for your time.
>
> 
>
>SFC Lester Newsom
>
>Baghdad, Iraq
>
> 
>
> 
>
>Classification: UNCLASSIFIED
>If this e-mail is marked FOR OFFICIAL USE ONLY it may be exempt from
>mandatory disclosure under FOIA. DoD 5400.7R, "DoD Freedom of Information
>Act Program", DoD Directive 5230.9, "Clearance of DoD Information for Public
>Release", and DoD Instruction 5230.29, "Security and Policy Review of DoD
>Information for Public Release" apply.
>
>
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>
>
>  
>

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Victoria, B.C.
Canada



From bchacc at san.rr.com  Mon Nov 20 14:14:09 2006
From: bchacc at san.rr.com (Beach Access Software)
Date: Mon, 20 Nov 2006 12:14:09 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] FW: [U] Soldier in Iraq needs Access Help
In-Reply-To: <456206FF.5030506@shaw.ca>
Message-ID: <01b601c70ce0$70929250$6401a8c0@HAL9005>

To everyone who responded to this request:

Would it be possible for you to contact this guy directly?  I could forward
all the emails but since I don't really know how to solve this one there's
no point in my getting in the middle.

Thanks and regards,

Rocky


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of MartyConnelly
Sent: Monday, November 20, 2006 11:50 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] FW: [U] Soldier in Iraq needs Access Help

I would probably do this with SQL Server 2005 Express Edition
with Advanced Services.SQL Server 2005 Express Edition with
Advanced Services is perfect for use as a backend to a small, multiuser
application that requires more advanced features such as Web reporting 
or Full-text Search.
You could do this with the full version of SQL 2000 but now is available 
in Express.

SQL Server 2000 provides a rich text-data retrieval system and
an enhanced full-text search service that enables you to perform a 
linguistic
search of character data in tables enabled for full-text search.
A linguistic search operates on words and phrases.
The linguistic search is not supported for Arabic, but other parts of 
full-text search are.

Creating Full-Text Index
To accomplish a full-text search, you must create a full-text index on 
the specific column
you wish to search. To index a column in a table you are viewing, use 
the Full-Text Indexing Wizard.
In the Select Table Columns page, find the column you wish to index and,
in the Language for Word Breaker list, select Neutral.
Choosing this option enables your index to work with Arabic even though 
that language
is not included in the list of supported languages.
In general, use this option when a column contains data in multiple 
languages or in an unsupported language

http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/default.asp?url=/library/en-us/dnsql2k/htm
l/sql_arabicsupport.asp


You could do this with Google Desktop Search Engine via VBA API calls to 
return xml files
of retrieved data ranked by date or relevance. Caveats Security, Need 
addon's to
look deep into text and pdf files beyond 4000 characters.

Vista is supposed to have an inbuilt text search engine.




Beach Access Software wrote:

>Anyone want to tackle this one?  Sounds like an interesting project.
>
> 
>
>Rocky
>
> 
>
> 
>
>  _____  
>
>From: Access Users Group of San Diego [mailto:admin at augsd.org] 
>Sent: Friday, November 17, 2006 8:59 AM
>To: Wayne Warren-Angelucci; Rocky Smolin; Mark J. Krisburg; Joe Anderson;
>Dixon Foss; Barry Hynum (E-mail); Mike Dwyer; Ed Lance; Doug Murphy; Dixon
>Foss; Jackie Murphy (E-mail)
>Subject: FW: [U] Soldier in Iraq needs Access Help
>
> 
>
> 
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Newsom Lester SFC MNFI STARTEFF
>[mailto:lester.newsom at iraq.centcom.mil]
>Sent: Wednesday, November 01, 2006 9:12 AM
>To: admin at augsd.org
>Subject: [U] Soldier in Iraq needs Access Help
>
>Classification: UNCLASSIFIED 
>
>Greetings from Baghdad.
>
> 
>
>I am not one to ask for help until I have absolutely driven myself to the
>edge. It is my hope that you or one of your experts can shed some light on
>what I am trying to get Access to do.
>
> 
>
>There are actually two things, but first an explanation of what the
database
>does. A team of translators interpret local Iraqi newscasts which are
>transcribed and input into the database. These transcriptions are referred
>back to on a regular basis via requests to my office by the higher-ups. A
>typical request would be along the lines of "Give me the instances over the
>past two weeks Prime Minister Maliki has said he likes the U.S." or, "Give
>me every article referring to IED's exploding in the past month"
>
> 
>
>A simple query of course, returns the date range and all articles whereas
>the word "Maliki" appears. I am helped by the fact that Maliki does not
>appear in the dictionary so I can scan through the articles, deleting those
>that are not relevant. I cannot however discern when IED is actually part
of
>another word. 
>
> 
>
>What I would like to accomplish, is highlighting my text query, much like
>Google does in its cached pages. So, those words that I search for are
>highlighted, giving me a visual reference. 
>
> 
>
>I have tried constructing a macro to do the action and have also searched
>high and low in the Help files and the Internet.. Perhaps this makes
perfect
>sense to you and you can point me in the right direction.
>
> 
>
>Thank you in advance for your time.
>
> 
>
>SFC Lester Newsom
>
>Baghdad, Iraq
>
> 
>
> 
>
>Classification: UNCLASSIFIED
>If this e-mail is marked FOR OFFICIAL USE ONLY it may be exempt from
>mandatory disclosure under FOIA. DoD 5400.7R, "DoD Freedom of Information
>Act Program", DoD Directive 5230.9, "Clearance of DoD Information for
Public
>Release", and DoD Instruction 5230.29, "Security and Policy Review of DoD
>Information for Public Release" apply.
>
>
>--
>No virus found in this incoming message.
>Checked by AVG Free Edition.
>Version: 7.5.430 / Virus Database: 268.14.6/536 - Release Date: 11/16/2006
>3:51 PM
>
>
>  
>

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Victoria, B.C.
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From bheid at sc.rr.com  Mon Nov 20 14:46:51 2006
From: bheid at sc.rr.com (Bobby Heid)
Date: Mon, 20 Nov 2006 15:46:51 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Create object
In-Reply-To: <000601c70cdb$137563e0$657aa8c0@m6805>
Message-ID: <000801c70ce5$01fcfe70$465a1d05@bhxp>

It's possible that it is really a type of MDI app.  Just like when you open
up IE several times and one crashes, they all die.

Bobby 

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of JWColby
Sent: Monday, November 20, 2006 2:36 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Create object

Well... I can open multiple instances manually.

John W. Colby
Colby Consulting
www.ColbyConsulting.com

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim Lawrence
Sent: Monday, November 20, 2006 12:26 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Create object

Hi John:

The problem would appear to be with 3D-FTP which is designed to only open as
a single instance, per computer....

Jim

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of JWColby
Sent: Monday, November 20, 2006 4:01 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] Create object

I am trying to open multiple instances of 3DFTP and assign each instance to
a different class instance inside of Access.  When I use the syntax:
 
'
'In class header
'
Private mFtpXObj As Object ' FtpXObj

    '
    'In init function
    '
    'Start 3D-FTP loading, if not already running
    Set mFtpXObj = CreateObject("FTP.API")

The first class instance correctly opens 3DFTP but the second class instance
does not, it simply gets a pointer to the already opened 3DFTP instance.
 
AFAIK I can't use the NEW() syntax since I don't have early binding, IOW I
don't have a clue what FTP.API actually is and therefore can't reference it
in Access.  According to the help file, CreateObject is supposed to open a
new instance of the object anyway so I really should be able to do this.
 
Any thoughts?
 
John W. Colby
Colby Consulting
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From accessd at shaw.ca  Mon Nov 20 15:17:08 2006
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Mon, 20 Nov 2006 13:17:08 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] Create object
In-Reply-To: <000601c70cdb$137563e0$657aa8c0@m6805>
Message-ID: <0J9100GP8SDOJ320@l-daemon>

Hi John:

I think it is like Excel in which you can open a number of separate sheets
but if you quit one they all quit. You can close one though... but in
reality it is all the same application...

Jim

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[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of JWColby
Sent: Monday, November 20, 2006 11:36 AM
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Subject: Re: [AccessD] Create object

Well... I can open multiple instances manually.

John W. Colby
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[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim Lawrence
Sent: Monday, November 20, 2006 12:26 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Create object

Hi John:

The problem would appear to be with 3D-FTP which is designed to only open as
a single instance, per computer....

Jim

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Sent: Monday, November 20, 2006 4:01 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] Create object

I am trying to open multiple instances of 3DFTP and assign each instance to
a different class instance inside of Access.  When I use the syntax:
 
'
'In class header
'
Private mFtpXObj As Object ' FtpXObj

    '
    'In init function
    '
    'Start 3D-FTP loading, if not already running
    Set mFtpXObj = CreateObject("FTP.API")

The first class instance correctly opens 3DFTP but the second class instance
does not, it simply gets a pointer to the already opened 3DFTP instance.
 
AFAIK I can't use the NEW() syntax since I don't have early binding, IOW I
don't have a clue what FTP.API actually is and therefore can't reference it
in Access.  According to the help file, CreateObject is supposed to open a
new instance of the object anyway so I really should be able to do this.
 
Any thoughts?
 
John W. Colby
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From ssharkins at setel.com  Mon Nov 20 15:32:11 2006
From: ssharkins at setel.com (Susan Harkins)
Date: Mon, 20 Nov 2006 16:32:11 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] FW: [U] Soldier in Iraq needs Access Help
In-Reply-To: <456206FF.5030506@shaw.ca>
Message-ID: <000e01c70ceb$58dd3b50$bab62ad1@SUSANONE>

 
I would probably do this with SQL Server 2005 Express Edition with Advanced
Services.SQL Server 2005 Express Edition with Advanced Services is perfect
for use as a backend to a small, multiuser application that requires more
advanced features such as Web reporting or Full-text Search.
You could do this with the full version of SQL 2000 but now is available in
Express.

========Are you sure that full-text search is supported by Express? 

Susan H. 



From Kwilliamson at RTKL.com  Mon Nov 20 15:50:09 2006
From: Kwilliamson at RTKL.com (Keith Williamson)
Date: Mon, 20 Nov 2006 16:50:09 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Excel Import
Message-ID: <B7450F806572FD4AA30B664E5FE127FB125325@sherman.rtkl.rtkl.net>

Hey Guys,

I am trying to do an Excel import, into a new table.  There are 98 lines
of data in my Excel file.  However, when I do my import....no matter
what I do, it imports 64,963 records.  I have gone to the excel file and
deleted every blank line, after my data.  But it still imports the same
number of records.  Why would it import all the empty fields??

Thanks,

Keith E. Williamson | Assist. Controller| kwilliamson at rtkl.com

RTKL Associates Inc. | 901 South Bond Street | Baltimore, Maryland
21231-3305

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From ssharkins at setel.com  Mon Nov 20 16:08:16 2006
From: ssharkins at setel.com (Susan Harkins)
Date: Mon, 20 Nov 2006 17:08:16 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Excel Import
In-Reply-To: <B7450F806572FD4AA30B664E5FE127FB125325@sherman.rtkl.rtkl.net>
Message-ID: <000801c70cf0$63ca11a0$9cb82ad1@SUSANONE>

Keith, is it importing each cell entry as a single record or are the records
pretty much intact? If the latter, what's in rows 99 and beyond? 

The first thing I'd suggest is that you copy the 98 records into a clean
sheet and just get rid of the old one. 

Susan H. 

I am trying to do an Excel import, into a new table.  There are 98 lines of
data in my Excel file.  However, when I do my import....no matter what I do,
it imports 64,963 records.  I have gone to the excel file and deleted every
blank line, after my data.  But it still imports the same number of records.
Why would it import all the empty fields??




From Donald.A.McGillivray at sprint.com  Mon Nov 20 16:00:46 2006
From: Donald.A.McGillivray at sprint.com (McGillivray, Don [IT])
Date: Mon, 20 Nov 2006 16:00:46 -0600
Subject: [AccessD] Excel Import
In-Reply-To: <B7450F806572FD4AA30B664E5FE127FB125325@sherman.rtkl.rtkl.net>
Message-ID: <EC829B33DF5B5B48A956B7A2E894AA9A0A71E57D@PLSWB06C.ad.sprint.com>

Hi, Keith

I can't say that I've seen that behavior before, but Access seems to be seeing the entire Excel sheet as the data source when you do the import.  Try naming the range (Insert/Name) of the Excel sheet that holds the data.  Then specify that named range for import into your table.  Named ranges are very useful both within Excel and for this sort of external task.

Hope this helps!

Don McGillivray

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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Keith Williamson
Sent: Monday, November 20, 2006 1:50 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: [AccessD] Excel Import

Hey Guys,

I am trying to do an Excel import, into a new table.  There are 98 lines
of data in my Excel file.  However, when I do my import....no matter
what I do, it imports 64,963 records.  I have gone to the excel file and
deleted every blank line, after my data.  But it still imports the same
number of records.  Why would it import all the empty fields??

Thanks,

Keith E. Williamson | Assist. Controller| kwilliamson at rtkl.com

RTKL Associates Inc. | 901 South Bond Street | Baltimore, Maryland
21231-3305

410-537-6098 direct | 410-276-2136 fax | www.rtkl.com

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From john at winhaven.net  Mon Nov 20 16:33:05 2006
From: john at winhaven.net (John Bartow)
Date: Mon, 20 Nov 2006 16:33:05 -0600
Subject: [AccessD] Excel Import
In-Reply-To: <B7450F806572FD4AA30B664E5FE127FB125325@sherman.rtkl.rtkl.net>
Message-ID: <200611202233.kAKMX5q01881@databaseadvisors.com>

Oh the joy of it, eh?

First thing I'd try is selecting all the empty rows and then deleting them.
(just in case there's zero length string or something akin to that in all of
them. Then try importing again.

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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Keith Williamson
Sent: Monday, November 20, 2006 3:50 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: [AccessD] Excel Import

Hey Guys,

I am trying to do an Excel import, into a new table.  There are 98 lines of
data in my Excel file.  However, when I do my import....no matter what I do,
it imports 64,963 records.  I have gone to the excel file and deleted every
blank line, after my data.  But it still imports the same number of records.
Why would it import all the empty fields??

Thanks,

Keith E. Williamson | Assist. Controller| kwilliamson at rtkl.com

RTKL Associates Inc. | 901 South Bond Street | Baltimore, Maryland
21231-3305

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From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com  Mon Nov 20 16:43:46 2006
From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (JWColby)
Date: Mon, 20 Nov 2006 17:43:46 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Create object
In-Reply-To: <0J9100GP8SDOJ320@l-daemon>
Message-ID: <001501c70cf5$57860430$657aa8c0@m6805>

Interesting idea but I just tested it and I can open and close them
independently.  They truly seem to be separate instances of the program.  Of
course who really knows.  Anytime you open something with:

CreateObject("FTP.API")

Who knows what is really going on.  It certainly LOOKS like Word.Document or
Excel.Sheet where FTP.API is some kind of object of FTP that is exposed for
manipulation.  There are two "objects" that are in the list of things that
can be referenced.  One is 3dFTP.DLL, described as "3D-FTP Transfer Engine
Com Object".  However the properties and methods of that don't match the
API.  It LOOKS like it could be programmed to directly.  I referenced it and
can see the methods and properties.

The other object in the list of referencable objects is called FTP - and is
the 3DFTP.EXE.  Even though I can set a reference to the EXE I can't dim an
object as that, I get an immediate compile error.

So what exactly the .API is, or is a property of remains a mystery.

WHOA, I found it!  If I reference the 3DFTP.exe (as FTP in the reference
list), and then dim an object as FTP.API, I get ahold of the API and can see
exactly and only the API methods.  

Unfortunately this still doesn't get me anywhere since I am again not
getting a pointer to the EXE but apparently just an object inside of the
EXE.

And I still can't programmatically cause a new instance of the EXE to open.

John W. Colby
Colby Consulting
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-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim Lawrence
Sent: Monday, November 20, 2006 4:17 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Create object

Hi John:

I think it is like Excel in which you can open a number of separate sheets
but if you quit one they all quit. You can close one though... but in
reality it is all the same application...

Jim

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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of JWColby
Sent: Monday, November 20, 2006 11:36 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Create object

Well... I can open multiple instances manually.

John W. Colby
Colby Consulting
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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim Lawrence
Sent: Monday, November 20, 2006 12:26 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Create object

Hi John:

The problem would appear to be with 3D-FTP which is designed to only open as
a single instance, per computer....

Jim

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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of JWColby
Sent: Monday, November 20, 2006 4:01 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] Create object

I am trying to open multiple instances of 3DFTP and assign each instance to
a different class instance inside of Access.  When I use the syntax:
 
'
'In class header
'
Private mFtpXObj As Object ' FtpXObj

    '
    'In init function
    '
    'Start 3D-FTP loading, if not already running
    Set mFtpXObj = CreateObject("FTP.API")

The first class instance correctly opens 3DFTP but the second class instance
does not, it simply gets a pointer to the already opened 3DFTP instance.
 
AFAIK I can't use the NEW() syntax since I don't have early binding, IOW I
don't have a clue what FTP.API actually is and therefore can't reference it
in Access.  According to the help file, CreateObject is supposed to open a
new instance of the object anyway so I really should be able to do this.
 
Any thoughts?
 
John W. Colby
Colby Consulting
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From bchacc at san.rr.com  Mon Nov 20 16:46:21 2006
From: bchacc at san.rr.com (Beach Access Software)
Date: Mon, 20 Nov 2006 14:46:21 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] Print report to file
Message-ID: <01cb01c70cf5$b3471750$6401a8c0@HAL9005>

Dear List:

 

I got a program from this list a few years ago which allowed me to print a
report to a file.  Each page was a jpg.  I could then insert them into a
manual.  It worked great. 

 

But I cannot find it any more.  I think it installed like a printer but I
can't remember.  It was a free download from the net and I believe it was
from a Russian author.

 

I searched the archive but no luck. 

 

Does this ring a bell with anybody?

 

MTIA

 

Rocky

 



From bill_Patten at earthlink.net  Mon Nov 20 16:52:08 2006
From: bill_Patten at earthlink.net (Bill Patten)
Date: Mon, 20 Nov 2006 14:52:08 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] FW: [U] Soldier in Iraq needs Access Help
References: <000e01c70ceb$58dd3b50$bab62ad1@SUSANONE>
Message-ID: <006801c70cf6$823359c0$0202fea9@BPCS>

Hi Susan,

Yes , the Advanced Services version does. I tested it and though  I couldn't 
find a wizard I was able to get it working with T-SQL. I  tested it against 
a SQL 2000 box and got the same results, returned 41 records in both out of 
about 350 records and lots of text.

Bill
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Sent: Monday, November 20, 2006 1:32 PM
Subject: Re: [AccessD] FW: [U] Soldier in Iraq needs Access Help



I would probably do this with SQL Server 2005 Express Edition with Advanced
Services.SQL Server 2005 Express Edition with Advanced Services is perfect
for use as a backend to a small, multiuser application that requires more
advanced features such as Web reporting or Full-text Search.
You could do this with the full version of SQL 2000 but now is available in
Express.

========Are you sure that full-text search is supported by Express?

Susan H.

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From Kwilliamson at RTKL.com  Mon Nov 20 16:55:51 2006
From: Kwilliamson at RTKL.com (Keith Williamson)
Date: Mon, 20 Nov 2006 17:55:51 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Excel Import
Message-ID: <B7450F806572FD4AA30B664E5FE127FB125364@sherman.rtkl.rtkl.net>

Record #99 and on, are nothing but blank records.  Actually, I did copy
this data in from a html screen version of excel...into a blank excel
worksheet.  Then uploaded that. 

Keith E. Williamson | Assist. Controller| kwilliamson at rtkl.com

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21231-3305

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-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Susan Harkins
Sent: Monday, November 20, 2006 5:08 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Excel Import

Keith, is it importing each cell entry as a single record or are the
records
pretty much intact? If the latter, what's in rows 99 and beyond? 

The first thing I'd suggest is that you copy the 98 records into a clean
sheet and just get rid of the old one. 

Susan H. 

I am trying to do an Excel import, into a new table.  There are 98 lines
of
data in my Excel file.  However, when I do my import....no matter what I
do,
it imports 64,963 records.  I have gone to the excel file and deleted
every
blank line, after my data.  But it still imports the same number of
records.
Why would it import all the empty fields??


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From Kwilliamson at RTKL.com  Mon Nov 20 17:01:25 2006
From: Kwilliamson at RTKL.com (Keith Williamson)
Date: Mon, 20 Nov 2006 18:01:25 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Excel Import
Message-ID: <B7450F806572FD4AA30B664E5FE127FB125368@sherman.rtkl.rtkl.net>

Thanks.  This worked.  Although, for an ongoing process...I can just see
me forgetting to re-define my range...and not uploading all the proper
data.  :(  For now, however...this worked.  :)

Thanks,

Keith E. Williamson | Assist. Controller| kwilliamson at rtkl.com

RTKL Associates Inc. | 901 South Bond Street | Baltimore, Maryland
21231-3305

410-537-6098 direct | 410-276-2136 fax | www.rtkl.com


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of McGillivray,
Don [IT]
Sent: Monday, November 20, 2006 5:01 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Excel Import

Hi, Keith

I can't say that I've seen that behavior before, but Access seems to be
seeing the entire Excel sheet as the data source when you do the import.
Try naming the range (Insert/Name) of the Excel sheet that holds the
data.  Then specify that named range for import into your table.  Named
ranges are very useful both within Excel and for this sort of external
task.

Hope this helps!

Don McGillivray

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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Keith
Williamson
Sent: Monday, November 20, 2006 1:50 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: [AccessD] Excel Import

Hey Guys,

I am trying to do an Excel import, into a new table.  There are 98 lines
of data in my Excel file.  However, when I do my import....no matter
what I do, it imports 64,963 records.  I have gone to the excel file and
deleted every blank line, after my data.  But it still imports the same
number of records.  Why would it import all the empty fields??

Thanks,

Keith E. Williamson | Assist. Controller| kwilliamson at rtkl.com

RTKL Associates Inc. | 901 South Bond Street | Baltimore, Maryland
21231-3305

410-537-6098 direct | 410-276-2136 fax | www.rtkl.com

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From Kwilliamson at RTKL.com  Mon Nov 20 17:01:47 2006
From: Kwilliamson at RTKL.com (Keith Williamson)
Date: Mon, 20 Nov 2006 18:01:47 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Excel Import
Message-ID: <B7450F806572FD4AA30B664E5FE127FB125369@sherman.rtkl.rtkl.net>

Yeah...tried that a few times.

:(

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-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of John Bartow
Sent: Monday, November 20, 2006 5:33 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Excel Import

Oh the joy of it, eh?

First thing I'd try is selecting all the empty rows and then deleting
them.
(just in case there's zero length string or something akin to that in
all of
them. Then try importing again.

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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Keith
Williamson
Sent: Monday, November 20, 2006 3:50 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: [AccessD] Excel Import

Hey Guys,

I am trying to do an Excel import, into a new table.  There are 98 lines
of
data in my Excel file.  However, when I do my import....no matter what I
do,
it imports 64,963 records.  I have gone to the excel file and deleted
every
blank line, after my data.  But it still imports the same number of
records.
Why would it import all the empty fields??

Thanks,

Keith E. Williamson | Assist. Controller| kwilliamson at rtkl.com

RTKL Associates Inc. | 901 South Bond Street | Baltimore, Maryland
21231-3305

410-537-6098 direct | 410-276-2136 fax | www.rtkl.com

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From dw-murphy at cox.net  Mon Nov 20 17:05:52 2006
From: dw-murphy at cox.net (Doug Murphy)
Date: Mon, 20 Nov 2006 15:05:52 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] Print report to file
In-Reply-To: <01cb01c70cf5$b3471750$6401a8c0@HAL9005>
Message-ID: <006401c70cf8$6d504bb0$0200a8c0@murphy3234aaf1>

Snagit can do this, but you will have to spend a few bucks.  Well worth the
money, $39 from TechSmith.com.

Doug 

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Software
Sent: Monday, November 20, 2006 2:46 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] Print report to file

Dear List:

 

I got a program from this list a few years ago which allowed me to print a
report to a file.  Each page was a jpg.  I could then insert them into a
manual.  It worked great. 

 

But I cannot find it any more.  I think it installed like a printer but I
can't remember.  It was a free download from the net and I believe it was
from a Russian author.

 

I searched the archive but no luck. 

 

Does this ring a bell with anybody?

 

MTIA

 

Rocky

 

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From ssharkins at setel.com  Mon Nov 20 17:12:00 2006
From: ssharkins at setel.com (Susan Harkins)
Date: Mon, 20 Nov 2006 18:12:00 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Excel Import
In-Reply-To: <B7450F806572FD4AA30B664E5FE127FB125368@sherman.rtkl.rtkl.net>
Message-ID: <001e01c70cf9$48e69710$9cb82ad1@SUSANONE>

If you insert a new row at the bottom of the range, you don't have to
redefine the range -- Excel does it for you automatically. You could come up
with a macro that does the work for you. I swear, I wrote about that, but
I'd never find it now. But, here's how it would go -- you'd enter a record,
press Ctrl+I or some other keyboard hot key combination to imitate a macro
that would insert a new row at the bottom of the range and position your
cursor at the first cell in the new row -- that way, Excel is constantly
extending the range. 

Susan H. 

Thanks.  This worked.  Although, for an ongoing process...I can just see me
forgetting to re-define my range...and not uploading all the proper data.
:(  For now, however...this worked.  :)




From stuart at lexacorp.com.pg  Mon Nov 20 17:57:42 2006
From: stuart at lexacorp.com.pg (Stuart McLachlan)
Date: Tue, 21 Nov 2006 09:57:42 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] Print report to file
In-Reply-To: <01cb01c70cf5$b3471750$6401a8c0@HAL9005>
References: <01cb01c70cf5$b3471750$6401a8c0@HAL9005>
Message-ID: <4562CD96.28960.8EB9A65D@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>

On 20 Nov 2006 at 14:46, Beach Access Software wrote:

> I got a program from this list a few years ago which allowed me to print a
> report to a file.  Each page was a jpg.  I could then insert them into a
> manual.  It worked great. 
> 
>  
> 
> But I cannot find it any more.  I think it installed like a printer but I
> can't remember.  It was a free download from the net and I believe it was
> from a Russian author.
> 

I've got an old freeware one floating around somewhere that prints to TIFF, but it's not on this machine.  I'll see if it I can locate 
it later.

There are a number of commercial apps that do this and let you print to all  sorts of graphic formats.
They generally run around $40.

They include:
http://www.dobysoft.com/products/softcopy/index.html 
http://www.zan1011.com/    
http://www.eprintdriver.com/ePrintFilePrinter.html  
http://www.verypdf.com/artprint/




From Donald.A.McGillivray at sprint.com  Mon Nov 20 17:31:00 2006
From: Donald.A.McGillivray at sprint.com (McGillivray, Don [IT])
Date: Mon, 20 Nov 2006 17:31:00 -0600
Subject: [AccessD] Excel Import
In-Reply-To: <001e01c70cf9$48e69710$9cb82ad1@SUSANONE>
Message-ID: <EC829B33DF5B5B48A956B7A2E894AA9A0A71E710@PLSWB06C.ad.sprint.com>

True, but the inserted rows need to be ABOVE the last row in the existing range in order for this to work, no?  Not such a big deal if you're adding a row or two, but when adding large blocks of data, it can be a pain to insert exactly (or slightly more than) the number or rows you want before adding the data.  You definitely don't want to insert fewer than you will need.

I seem to remember somebody (Gustav?) posting some code a few months back that managed the dynamic expansion of a named range in Excel.  Don't remember how it worked, or anything else about it, but it looked like a useful thing for situations like this.  Does that ring a bell with anybody else?

Don

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Susan Harkins
Sent: Monday, November 20, 2006 3:12 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Excel Import

If you insert a new row at the bottom of the range, you don't have to
redefine the range -- Excel does it for you automatically. You could come up
with a macro that does the work for you. I swear, I wrote about that, but
I'd never find it now. But, here's how it would go -- you'd enter a record,
press Ctrl+I or some other keyboard hot key combination to imitate a macro
that would insert a new row at the bottom of the range and position your
cursor at the first cell in the new row -- that way, Excel is constantly
extending the range. 

Susan H. 

Thanks.  This worked.  Although, for an ongoing process...I can just see me
forgetting to re-define my range...and not uploading all the proper data.
:(  For now, however...this worked.  :)


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From bchacc at san.rr.com  Mon Nov 20 18:24:52 2006
From: bchacc at san.rr.com (Beach Access Software)
Date: Mon, 20 Nov 2006 16:24:52 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] Print report to file
In-Reply-To: <4562CD96.28960.8EB9A65D@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>
Message-ID: <01ea01c70d03$76da4ef0$6401a8c0@HAL9005>

Stuart:

IIRC, the one I had printed to a few formats including Windows Metafile.  I
had to do some experimenting to get a format I could use.  I think I opened
the original output from the program in some picture manipulator and saved
it in jpg.  

Rocky

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Stuart McLachlan
Sent: Monday, November 20, 2006 3:58 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Print report to file

On 20 Nov 2006 at 14:46, Beach Access Software wrote:

> I got a program from this list a few years ago which allowed me to print a
> report to a file.  Each page was a jpg.  I could then insert them into a
> manual.  It worked great. 
> 
>  
> 
> But I cannot find it any more.  I think it installed like a printer but I
> can't remember.  It was a free download from the net and I believe it was
> from a Russian author.
> 

I've got an old freeware one floating around somewhere that prints to TIFF,
but it's not on this machine.  I'll see if it I can locate 
it later.

There are a number of commercial apps that do this and let you print to all
sorts of graphic formats.
They generally run around $40.

They include:
http://www.dobysoft.com/products/softcopy/index.html 
http://www.zan1011.com/    
http://www.eprintdriver.com/ePrintFilePrinter.html  
http://www.verypdf.com/artprint/


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From artful at rogers.com  Mon Nov 20 18:24:59 2006
From: artful at rogers.com (artful at rogers.com)
Date: Mon, 20 Nov 2006 16:24:59 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [AccessD] Create object
Message-ID: <20061121002459.2971.qmail@web88214.mail.re2.yahoo.com>

Hmm, a clue. I know nothing about this software, but is there a way to open an instance on another computer?

Arthur

----- Original Message ----
From: Jim Lawrence <accessd at shaw.ca>
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Monday, November 20, 2006 12:26:20 PM
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Create object

Hi John:

The problem would appear to be with 3D-FTP which is designed to only open as
a single instance, per computer....

Jim






From stuart at lexacorp.com.pg  Mon Nov 20 18:47:59 2006
From: stuart at lexacorp.com.pg (Stuart McLachlan)
Date: Tue, 21 Nov 2006 10:47:59 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] Print report to file
In-Reply-To: <4562CD96.28960.8EB9A65D@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>
References: <01cb01c70cf5$b3471750$6401a8c0@HAL9005>,
	<4562CD96.28960.8EB9A65D@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>
Message-ID: <4562D95F.870.8EE7AFA5@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>

On 21 Nov 2006 at 9:57, Stuart McLachlan wrote:

 
> I've got an old freeware one floating around somewhere that prints to TIFF, but it's not on this machine.  I'll see if it I can locate 
> it later.
> 

Found it.   PrintToPicture by Gretchko Juriy.

It creates BMP,PCX or PNG images of printed pages.

His web page at http://progrex.narod.ru/ptp.html doesn't seem to exist any more so
I've put my copy at  http://www.lexacorp.com.pg/printToPicture101.exe






From k.williamson5 at verizon.net  Mon Nov 20 18:59:34 2006
From: k.williamson5 at verizon.net (Keith Williamson)
Date: Mon, 20 Nov 2006 19:59:34 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Excel Import
In-Reply-To: <EC829B33DF5B5B48A956B7A2E894AA9A0A71E710@PLSWB06C.ad.sprint.com>
Message-ID: <001801c70d08$5483ed20$650010ac@KeithHome>

Well, guys...don't sweat it too much.  I'm having to go through hoops right
now, while I wait on our damned MIS person to finally give me an ODBC access
to the application database.  In the meantime, I am downloading data, and
loading it into my own db to work with.  Ultimately, I'll have linked tables
and won't have to do this anymore.

I just found it to be an extremely odd thing to encounter.  Never ran into
this before....and I've done a LOT of excel imports.  {sigh}

Thanks for the advice.

Regards,

Keith

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of McGillivray, Don
[IT]
Sent: Monday, November 20, 2006 6:31 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Excel Import

True, but the inserted rows need to be ABOVE the last row in the existing
range in order for this to work, no?  Not such a big deal if you're adding a
row or two, but when adding large blocks of data, it can be a pain to insert
exactly (or slightly more than) the number or rows you want before adding
the data.  You definitely don't want to insert fewer than you will need.

I seem to remember somebody (Gustav?) posting some code a few months back
that managed the dynamic expansion of a named range in Excel.  Don't
remember how it worked, or anything else about it, but it looked like a
useful thing for situations like this.  Does that ring a bell with anybody
else?

Don

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Susan Harkins
Sent: Monday, November 20, 2006 3:12 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Excel Import

If you insert a new row at the bottom of the range, you don't have to
redefine the range -- Excel does it for you automatically. You could come up
with a macro that does the work for you. I swear, I wrote about that, but
I'd never find it now. But, here's how it would go -- you'd enter a record,
press Ctrl+I or some other keyboard hot key combination to imitate a macro
that would insert a new row at the bottom of the range and position your
cursor at the first cell in the new row -- that way, Excel is constantly
extending the range. 

Susan H. 

Thanks.  This worked.  Although, for an ongoing process...I can just see me
forgetting to re-define my range...and not uploading all the proper data.
:(  For now, however...this worked.  :)


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From ssharkins at setel.com  Mon Nov 20 20:29:10 2006
From: ssharkins at setel.com (Susan Harkins)
Date: Mon, 20 Nov 2006 21:29:10 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Excel Import
In-Reply-To: <EC829B33DF5B5B48A956B7A2E894AA9A0A71E710@PLSWB06C.ad.sprint.com>
Message-ID: <000b01c70d14$e0d08f20$18bc2ad1@SUSANONE>

 

True, but the inserted rows need to be ABOVE the last row in the existing
range in order for this to work, no?  Not such a big deal if you're adding a
row or two, but when adding large blocks of data, it can be a pain to insert
exactly (or slightly more than) the number or rows you want before adding
the data.  You definitely don't want to insert fewer than you will need.

=======Right -- actually, the inserted row can be anywhere within the range.


Susan H. 



From martyconnelly at shaw.ca  Mon Nov 20 20:39:54 2006
From: martyconnelly at shaw.ca (MartyConnelly)
Date: Mon, 20 Nov 2006 18:39:54 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] FW: [U] Soldier in Iraq needs Access Help
In-Reply-To: <000e01c70ceb$58dd3b50$bab62ad1@SUSANONE>
References: <000e01c70ceb$58dd3b50$bab62ad1@SUSANONE>
Message-ID: <456266FA.4050804@shaw.ca>


SQL Server 2005 Express Edition with Advanced Services SP1   234 Meg
http://msdn.microsoft.com/vstudio/express/sql/download/
Advanced Services contains the following features:

SQL Server Management Studio Express, a graphical management tool based 
on SQL Server Management Studio that makes it easy to
manage and administer SQL Server Express databases.

Reporting Services, an integrated report creation and design environment 
to create reports.

Full-Text Search, a powerful search engine for searching text-intensive 
data.


However   Note this about Vista and MSDE non support

In an effort to provide customers with more secure products, Microsoft 
Windows Server "Longhorn" and Microsoft Windows Vista will only
support SQL Server 2005 Service Pack 2 (SP2) or later when it becomes 
available. Earlier versions of SQL Server, including SQL Server 2000
(all editions including Desktop Engine edition, a.k.a MSDE), SQL Server 
7.0, and SQL Server 6.5, will not be supported on Windows Server
"Longhorn" or Windows Vista.

http://www.microsoft.com/sql/howtobuy/sqlonvista.mspx

You can use the Export functionality in Access to send data to a number 
of places, including SQL Server. You should be able to find information

on this in the Access help file, but here is the general process:
http://forums.microsoft.com/MSDN/ShowPost.aspx?PostID=295865&SiteID=1

Open your database in Access and choose the Export option.
Choose ODBC Database from the Files of Type list.
Follow the wizard to create a DSN to your SQL Express instance.
Pick the tables and click OK.
You will need to enable TCP connections to SQL in order for Access to be 
able to connect and if the SQL Express server is on a different

computer than Access you'll need to open Exceptions in the firewall on 
the server computer. Instructions on how to do that are at

http://blogs.msdn.com/sqlexpress/archive/2004/07/23/192044.aspx
http://blogs.msdn.com/sqlexpress/default.aspx
Regards,

Mike Wachal
SQL Express team

FAQ: How to connect to SQL Express from "downlevel clients"(Access 2003, 
VS 2003, VB 6, etc(basically anything that is not using .Net 2.0 or

the new SQL Native Client))
http://blogs.msdn.com/sqlexpress/archive/2004/07/23/192044.aspx

Susan Harkins wrote:

> 
>I would probably do this with SQL Server 2005 Express Edition with Advanced
>Services.SQL Server 2005 Express Edition with Advanced Services is perfect
>for use as a backend to a small, multiuser application that requires more
>advanced features such as Web reporting or Full-text Search.
>You could do this with the full version of SQL 2000 but now is available in
>Express.
>
>========Are you sure that full-text search is supported by Express? 
>
>Susan H. 
>
>  
>

-- 
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Victoria, B.C.
Canada



From martyconnelly at shaw.ca  Mon Nov 20 20:49:56 2006
From: martyconnelly at shaw.ca (MartyConnelly)
Date: Mon, 20 Nov 2006 18:49:56 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] Create object
In-Reply-To: <20061121002459.2971.qmail@web88214.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
References: <20061121002459.2971.qmail@web88214.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <45626954.4040201@shaw.ca>

I think if you look through the registry it will be either multi or 
single instance
registration

artful at rogers.com wrote:

>Hmm, a clue. I know nothing about this software, but is there a way to open an instance on another computer?
>
>Arthur
>
>----- Original Message ----
>From: Jim Lawrence <accessd at shaw.ca>
>To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
>Sent: Monday, November 20, 2006 12:26:20 PM
>Subject: Re: [AccessD] Create object
>
>Hi John:
>
>The problem would appear to be with 3D-FTP which is designed to only open as
>a single instance, per computer....
>
>Jim
>
>
>
>
>  
>

-- 
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Victoria, B.C.
Canada



From kp at sdsonline.net  Mon Nov 20 22:16:12 2006
From: kp at sdsonline.net (Kath Pelletti)
Date: Tue, 21 Nov 2006 15:16:12 +1100
Subject: [AccessD] CommonDialog 2000 to 2003
Message-ID: <000a01c70d23$c81934a0$6501a8c0@office>

I've been working through converting an A2K app to Access 2003 and most issues are resolved. But I am just wondering whther anyone has a sample of a form with a browse / save dialog for me to see in 2003 - I had that all working in 2000 but it seems to have changed significantly.

rgds

______________________________________
Kath Pelletti
Software Design and Solutions Pty Ltd.
Ph: 9505-6714
Fax: 9505-6430
Email: KP at SDSOnline.net

From bchacc at san.rr.com  Tue Nov 21 01:25:27 2006
From: bchacc at san.rr.com (Beach Access Software)
Date: Mon, 20 Nov 2006 23:25:27 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] Print report to file
In-Reply-To: <4562D95F.870.8EE7AFA5@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>
Message-ID: <020401c70d3e$381ce660$6401a8c0@HAL9005>

Stuart:

That's it!  That will be a lifesaver.  

But for some reason the link isn't working.  I get a 404 - not found on this
server.

Can you send it off-line to me?  

Thanks and regards,

Rocky


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Stuart McLachlan
Sent: Monday, November 20, 2006 4:48 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Print report to file

On 21 Nov 2006 at 9:57, Stuart McLachlan wrote:

 
> I've got an old freeware one floating around somewhere that prints to
TIFF, but it's not on this machine.  I'll see if it I can locate 
> it later.
> 

Found it.   PrintToPicture by Gretchko Juriy.

It creates BMP,PCX or PNG images of printed pages.

His web page at http://progrex.narod.ru/ptp.html doesn't seem to exist any
more so
I've put my copy at  http://www.lexacorp.com.pg/printToPicture101.exe




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From andy at minstersystems.co.uk  Tue Nov 21 02:20:57 2006
From: andy at minstersystems.co.uk (Andy Lacey)
Date: Tue, 21 Nov 2006 08:20:57 -0000
Subject: [AccessD] Print report to file
In-Reply-To: <4562D95F.870.8EE7AFA5@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>
Message-ID: <00cc01c70d45$f9f3fdd0$54a20c54@minster33c3r25>

Stuart the link isn't working, or at least not for me.

-- Andy Lacey
http://www.minstersystems.co.uk 

> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com 
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of 
> Stuart McLachlan
> Sent: 21 November 2006 00:48
> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] Print report to file
> 
> 
> On 21 Nov 2006 at 9:57, Stuart McLachlan wrote:
> 
>  
> > I've got an old freeware one floating around somewhere that 
> prints to 
> > TIFF, but it's not on this machine.  I'll see if it I can locate
> > it later.
> > 
> 
> Found it.   PrintToPicture by Gretchko Juriy.
> 
> It creates BMP,PCX or PNG images of printed pages.
> 
> His web page at http://progrex.narod.ru/ptp.html doesn't seem 
> to exist any more so I've put my copy at  
> http://www.lexacorp.com.pg/printToPicture101.exe
> 
> 
> 
> 
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> 




From stuart at lexacorp.com.pg  Tue Nov 21 03:38:51 2006
From: stuart at lexacorp.com.pg (Stuart McLachlan)
Date: Tue, 21 Nov 2006 19:38:51 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] Print report to file
In-Reply-To: <020401c70d3e$381ce660$6401a8c0@HAL9005>
References: <4562D95F.870.8EE7AFA5@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>,
	<020401c70d3e$381ce660$6401a8c0@HAL9005>
Message-ID: <4562C92B.19041.B6F9ED3@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>

Sorry, wrong URL. I forgot to type the directory :-(

http://www.lexacorp.com.pg/soft/printToPicture101.exe

On 20 Nov 2006 at 23:25, Beach Access Software wrote:

> Stuart:
> 
> That's it!  That will be a lifesaver.  
> 
> But for some reason the link isn't working.  I get a 404 - not found on this
> server.
> 
> Can you send it off-line to me?  
> 
> Thanks and regards,
> 
> Rocky
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Stuart McLachlan
> Sent: Monday, November 20, 2006 4:48 PM To: Access Developers discussion and
> problem solving Subject: Re: [AccessD] Print report to file
> 
> On 21 Nov 2006 at 9:57, Stuart McLachlan wrote:
> 
> 
> > I've got an old freeware one floating around somewhere that prints to
> TIFF, but it's not on this machine.  I'll see if it I can locate 
> > it later.
> > 
> 
> Found it.   PrintToPicture by Gretchko Juriy.
> 
> It creates BMP,PCX or PNG images of printed pages.
> 
> His web page at http://progrex.narod.ru/ptp.html doesn't seem to exist any
> more so I've put my copy at 
> http://www.lexacorp.com.pg/printToPicture101.exe
> 
> 
> 
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From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com  Tue Nov 21 04:08:23 2006
From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (JWColby)
Date: Tue, 21 Nov 2006 05:08:23 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Create object
In-Reply-To: <45626954.4040201@shaw.ca>
Message-ID: <001f01c70d54$fb1c0540$657aa8c0@m6805>

And how do you tell this? 


John W. Colby
Colby Consulting
www.ColbyConsulting.com

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of MartyConnelly
Sent: Monday, November 20, 2006 9:50 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Create object

I think if you look through the registry it will be either multi or single
instance registration

artful at rogers.com wrote:

>Hmm, a clue. I know nothing about this software, but is there a way to open
an instance on another computer?
>
>Arthur
>
>----- Original Message ----
>From: Jim Lawrence <accessd at shaw.ca>
>To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving 
><accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
>Sent: Monday, November 20, 2006 12:26:20 PM
>Subject: Re: [AccessD] Create object
>
>Hi John:
>
>The problem would appear to be with 3D-FTP which is designed to only 
>open as a single instance, per computer....
>
>Jim
>
>
>
>
>  
>

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From Gustav at cactus.dk  Tue Nov 21 05:28:23 2006
From: Gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Tue, 21 Nov 2006 12:28:23 +0100
Subject: [AccessD] Excel Import
Message-ID: <s562f104.064@cactus.dk>

Hi Don

Perhaps this about Dynamic Named Ranges:

http://databaseadvisors.com/pipermail/accessd/2006-March/042838.html 

Unfortunately, exactly such a range can _not_ be used as the source when linking or importing.

/gustav

>>> Donald.A.McGillivray at sprint.com 21-11-2006 00:31:00 >>>
True, but the inserted rows need to be ABOVE the last row in the existing range in order for this to work, no?  Not such a big deal if you're adding a row or two, but when adding large blocks of data, it can be a pain to insert exactly (or slightly more than) the number or rows you want before adding the data.  You definitely don't want to insert fewer than you will need.

I seem to remember somebody (Gustav?) posting some code a few months back that managed the dynamic expansion of a named range in Excel.  Don't remember how it worked, or anything else about it, but it looked like a useful thing for situations like this.  Does that ring a bell with anybody else?

Don

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Susan Harkins
Sent: Monday, November 20, 2006 3:12 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Excel Import

If you insert a new row at the bottom of the range, you don't have to
redefine the range -- Excel does it for you automatically. You could come up
with a macro that does the work for you. I swear, I wrote about that, but
I'd never find it now. But, here's how it would go -- you'd enter a record,
press Ctrl+I or some other keyboard hot key combination to imitate a macro
that would insert a new row at the bottom of the range and position your
cursor at the first cell in the new row -- that way, Excel is constantly
extending the range. 

Susan H. 

Thanks.  This worked.  Although, for an ongoing process...I can just see me
forgetting to re-define my range...and not uploading all the proper data.
:(  For now, however...this worked.  :)




From Gustav at cactus.dk  Tue Nov 21 05:47:10 2006
From: Gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Tue, 21 Nov 2006 12:47:10 +0100
Subject: [AccessD] Print report to file
Message-ID: <s562f55b.066@cactus.dk>

Hi Stuart and Rocky

There was a ptp102.zip as well. However, I've lost it, and a Russian site:

http://softok.org/multimedia/oth/3026dload.html 

where it should be for download is offline.

If anyone has the file, please drop me a message.

/gustav


>>> stuart at lexacorp.com.pg 21-11-2006 10:38:51 >>>
Sorry, wrong URL. I forgot to type the directory :-(

http://www.lexacorp.com.pg/soft/printToPicture101.exe 

On 20 Nov 2006 at 23:25, Beach Access Software wrote:

> Stuart:
> 
> That's it!  That will be a lifesaver.  
> 
> But for some reason the link isn't working.  I get a 404 - not found on this
> server.
> 
> Can you send it off-line to me?  
> 
> Thanks and regards,
> 
> Rocky
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com 
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Stuart McLachlan
> Sent: Monday, November 20, 2006 4:48 PM To: Access Developers discussion and
> problem solving Subject: Re: [AccessD] Print report to file
> 
> On 21 Nov 2006 at 9:57, Stuart McLachlan wrote:
> 
> 
> > I've got an old freeware one floating around somewhere that prints to
> TIFF, but it's not on this machine.  I'll see if it I can locate 
> > it later.
> > 
> 
> Found it.   PrintToPicture by Gretchko Juriy.
> 
> It creates BMP,PCX or PNG images of printed pages.
> 
> His web page at http://progrex.narod.ru/ptp.html doesn't seem to exist any
> more so I've put my copy at 
> http://www.lexacorp.com.pg/printToPicture101.exe 




From bchacc at san.rr.com  Tue Nov 21 09:49:49 2006
From: bchacc at san.rr.com (Beach Access Software)
Date: Tue, 21 Nov 2006 07:49:49 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] Print report to file
In-Reply-To: <4562C92B.19041.B6F9ED3@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>
Message-ID: <001701c70d84$ad7727e0$6401a8c0@HAL9005>

Got it, Stuart!  Thanks.  It's a life saver.

Rocky


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Stuart McLachlan
Sent: Tuesday, November 21, 2006 1:39 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Print report to file

Sorry, wrong URL. I forgot to type the directory :-(

http://www.lexacorp.com.pg/soft/printToPicture101.exe

On 20 Nov 2006 at 23:25, Beach Access Software wrote:

> Stuart:
> 
> That's it!  That will be a lifesaver.  
> 
> But for some reason the link isn't working.  I get a 404 - not found on
this
> server.
> 
> Can you send it off-line to me?  
> 
> Thanks and regards,
> 
> Rocky
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Stuart
McLachlan
> Sent: Monday, November 20, 2006 4:48 PM To: Access Developers discussion
and
> problem solving Subject: Re: [AccessD] Print report to file
> 
> On 21 Nov 2006 at 9:57, Stuart McLachlan wrote:
> 
> 
> > I've got an old freeware one floating around somewhere that prints to
> TIFF, but it's not on this machine.  I'll see if it I can locate 
> > it later.
> > 
> 
> Found it.   PrintToPicture by Gretchko Juriy.
> 
> It creates BMP,PCX or PNG images of printed pages.
> 
> His web page at http://progrex.narod.ru/ptp.html doesn't seem to exist any
> more so I've put my copy at 
> http://www.lexacorp.com.pg/printToPicture101.exe
> 
> 
> 
> 
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From shamil at users.mns.ru  Tue Nov 21 09:52:53 2006
From: shamil at users.mns.ru (Shamil Salakhetdinov)
Date: Tue, 21 Nov 2006 18:52:53 +0300
Subject: [AccessD] Print report to file
In-Reply-To: <s562f55b.066@cactus.dk>
Message-ID: <001201c70d85$1b045a30$6401a8c0@nant>

Gustav,

This seems to be a live link to this program but I'm note sure is that the
same version you used or not:

Watch line wraps:

http://ip114-110.cpe.tktor.ru:8000/files/CD-R-%eb%cf%cd%d0%d8%c0%d4%c5%d2%f0
%d2%c5%d3%d3-12-2004/SOFT/soft_grafics/ptp102/


It can be found via www.yandex.com (Russian Internet search engine) using
ptp102.zip as search criteria.

--
Shamil
 
-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gustav Brock
Sent: Tuesday, November 21, 2006 2:47 PM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Print report to file

Hi Stuart and Rocky

There was a ptp102.zip as well. However, I've lost it, and a Russian site:

http://softok.org/multimedia/oth/3026dload.html 

where it should be for download is offline.

If anyone has the file, please drop me a message.

/gustav


>>> stuart at lexacorp.com.pg 21-11-2006 10:38:51 >>>
Sorry, wrong URL. I forgot to type the directory :-(

http://www.lexacorp.com.pg/soft/printToPicture101.exe 

On 20 Nov 2006 at 23:25, Beach Access Software wrote:

> Stuart:
> 
> That's it!  That will be a lifesaver.  
> 
> But for some reason the link isn't working.  I get a 404 - not found on
this
> server.
> 
> Can you send it off-line to me?  
> 
> Thanks and regards,
> 
> Rocky
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com 
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Stuart
McLachlan
> Sent: Monday, November 20, 2006 4:48 PM To: Access Developers discussion
and
> problem solving Subject: Re: [AccessD] Print report to file
> 
> On 21 Nov 2006 at 9:57, Stuart McLachlan wrote:
> 
> 
> > I've got an old freeware one floating around somewhere that prints to
> TIFF, but it's not on this machine.  I'll see if it I can locate 
> > it later.
> > 
> 
> Found it.   PrintToPicture by Gretchko Juriy.
> 
> It creates BMP,PCX or PNG images of printed pages.
> 
> His web page at http://progrex.narod.ru/ptp.html doesn't seem to exist any
> more so I've put my copy at 
> http://www.lexacorp.com.pg/printToPicture101.exe 


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From Gustav at cactus.dk  Tue Nov 21 10:30:46 2006
From: Gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Tue, 21 Nov 2006 17:30:46 +0100
Subject: [AccessD] Print report to file
Message-ID: <s56337da.078@cactus.dk>

Hi Shamil

That's it! Thanks Shamil - never heard of that search engine. Great.

For anyone else interested in transforming or printing reports directly to picture files, here are the notes for that version:

<quote>

Utility Print To Picture (PTP) is intended for transformation of a printer conclusion of applications Windows to sets of raster graphic documents (pictures). 
Easier speaking, with the help of utility PTP, any applications Windows can make a seal in a picture, the same way, as on the printer. 

The basic characteristics of a product:

Operation system Windows 2000 or Windows XP or Windows 2003 Server 
Output format PCX, BMP or PNG 
Colority Black and White 
"Paper" form's A4, A5, square 100x100 mm, 120x120 mm, 150x150 mm, 
envelopes 160x114 mm, 229x114 mm, 229x162 mm 
Resolution 600,300,200,150,100,75,60,50 dpi 
Halftoning Supercell or offset cell from 2x2 to 16x16 points 
Page control Single page per print or multiple pages  
Cutting mode By picture content; optional 

In addition the utility allows to establish and delete printers for a seal in a picture.

</quote>

Note that it is freeware.

/gustav


>>> shamil at users.mns.ru 21-11-2006 16:52:53 >>>
Gustav,

This seems to be a live link to this program but I'm note sure is that the
same version you used or not:

Watch line wraps:

http://ip114-110.cpe.tktor.ru:8000/files/CD-R-%eb%cf%cd%d0%d8%c0%d4%c5%d2%f0%d2%c5%d3%d3-12-2004/SOFT/soft_grafics/ptp102/


It can be found via www.yandex.com (Russian Internet search engine) using
ptp102.zip as search criteria.

--
Shamil
 
-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com 
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gustav Brock
Sent: Tuesday, November 21, 2006 2:47 PM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com 
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Print report to file

Hi Stuart and Rocky

There was a ptp102.zip as well. However, I've lost it, and a Russian site:

http://softok.org/multimedia/oth/3026dload.html 

where it should be for download is offline.

If anyone has the file, please drop me a message.

/gustav


>>> stuart at lexacorp.com.pg 21-11-2006 10:38:51 >>>
Sorry, wrong URL. I forgot to type the directory :-(

http://www.lexacorp.com.pg/soft/printToPicture101.exe 

On 20 Nov 2006 at 23:25, Beach Access Software wrote:

> Stuart:
> 
> That's it!  That will be a lifesaver.  
> 
> But for some reason the link isn't working.  I get a 404 - not found on this
> server.
> 
> Can you send it off-line to me?  
> 
> Thanks and regards,
> 
> Rocky
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com 
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Stuart McLachlan
> Sent: Monday, November 20, 2006 4:48 PM To: Access Developers discussion and
> problem solving Subject: Re: [AccessD] Print report to file
> 
> On 21 Nov 2006 at 9:57, Stuart McLachlan wrote:
> 
> 
> > I've got an old freeware one floating around somewhere that prints to TIFF, but it's not on this machine.  I'll see if it I can locate 
> > it later.
> > 
> 
> Found it.   PrintToPicture by Gretchko Juriy.
> 
> It creates BMP,PCX or PNG images of printed pages.
> 
> His web page at http://progrex.narod.ru/ptp.html doesn't seem to exist any
> more so I've put my copy at 
> http://www.lexacorp.com.pg/printToPicture101.exe 



From shamil at users.mns.ru  Tue Nov 21 12:28:58 2006
From: shamil at users.mns.ru (Shamil Salakhetdinov)
Date: Tue, 21 Nov 2006 21:28:58 +0300
Subject: [AccessD] Print report to file
In-Reply-To: <s56337da.078@cactus.dk>
Message-ID: <001401c70d9a$e95fc1c0$6401a8c0@nant>

<<<
never heard of that search engine.
>>>
Hi Gustav,

I think it appeared before Google, at least I did get it known before
Google. The issue is that it's mainly in Cyrillic but if you have windows
version with Cyrillic fonts installed like e.g. I do have US/English with
Cyrillic then you can just use search textbox of this search engine and you
can type English search keywords in it and you can find some useful stuff in
English, which isn't visible on Google....

BTW, here is a useful rather good free service to translate web pages
including Russian -> English:
http://www.online-translator.com/default.asp?lang=en


--
Shamil
 
-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gustav Brock
Sent: Tuesday, November 21, 2006 7:31 PM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Print report to file

Hi Shamil

That's it! Thanks Shamil - never heard of that search engine. Great.

For anyone else interested in transforming or printing reports directly to
picture files, here are the notes for that version:

<quote>

Utility Print To Picture (PTP) is intended for transformation of a printer
conclusion of applications Windows to sets of raster graphic documents
(pictures). 
Easier speaking, with the help of utility PTP, any applications Windows can
make a seal in a picture, the same way, as on the printer. 

The basic characteristics of a product:

Operation system Windows 2000 or Windows XP or Windows 2003 Server 
Output format PCX, BMP or PNG 
Colority Black and White 
"Paper" form's A4, A5, square 100x100 mm, 120x120 mm, 150x150 mm, 
envelopes 160x114 mm, 229x114 mm, 229x162 mm 
Resolution 600,300,200,150,100,75,60,50 dpi 
Halftoning Supercell or offset cell from 2x2 to 16x16 points 
Page control Single page per print or multiple pages  
Cutting mode By picture content; optional 

In addition the utility allows to establish and delete printers for a seal
in a picture.

</quote>

Note that it is freeware.

/gustav


>>> shamil at users.mns.ru 21-11-2006 16:52:53 >>>
Gustav,

This seems to be a live link to this program but I'm note sure is that the
same version you used or not:

Watch line wraps:

http://ip114-110.cpe.tktor.ru:8000/files/CD-R-%eb%cf%cd%d0%d8%c0%d4%c5%d2%f0
%d2%c5%d3%d3-12-2004/SOFT/soft_grafics/ptp102/


It can be found via www.yandex.com (Russian Internet search engine) using
ptp102.zip as search criteria.

--
Shamil
 
-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com 
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gustav Brock
Sent: Tuesday, November 21, 2006 2:47 PM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com 
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Print report to file

Hi Stuart and Rocky

There was a ptp102.zip as well. However, I've lost it, and a Russian site:

http://softok.org/multimedia/oth/3026dload.html 

where it should be for download is offline.

If anyone has the file, please drop me a message.

/gustav


>>> stuart at lexacorp.com.pg 21-11-2006 10:38:51 >>>
Sorry, wrong URL. I forgot to type the directory :-(

http://www.lexacorp.com.pg/soft/printToPicture101.exe 

On 20 Nov 2006 at 23:25, Beach Access Software wrote:

> Stuart:
> 
> That's it!  That will be a lifesaver.  
> 
> But for some reason the link isn't working.  I get a 404 - not found on
this
> server.
> 
> Can you send it off-line to me?  
> 
> Thanks and regards,
> 
> Rocky
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com 
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Stuart
McLachlan
> Sent: Monday, November 20, 2006 4:48 PM To: Access Developers discussion
and
> problem solving Subject: Re: [AccessD] Print report to file
> 
> On 21 Nov 2006 at 9:57, Stuart McLachlan wrote:
> 
> 
> > I've got an old freeware one floating around somewhere that prints to
TIFF, but it's not on this machine.  I'll see if it I can locate 
> > it later.
> > 
> 
> Found it.   PrintToPicture by Gretchko Juriy.
> 
> It creates BMP,PCX or PNG images of printed pages.
> 
> His web page at http://progrex.narod.ru/ptp.html doesn't seem to exist any
> more so I've put my copy at 
> http://www.lexacorp.com.pg/printToPicture101.exe 

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From Gustav at cactus.dk  Tue Nov 21 13:02:30 2006
From: Gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Tue, 21 Nov 2006 20:02:30 +0100
Subject: [AccessD] Print report to file
Message-ID: <s5635b70.080@cactus.dk>

Hi Shamil

Thanks, that may be of help - though I on another Russian site managed to read "no results" in Russian ...

/gustav

>>> shamil at users.mns.ru 21-11-2006 19:28:58 >>>
<<<
never heard of that search engine.
>>>
Hi Gustav,

I think it appeared before Google, at least I did get it known before
Google. The issue is that it's mainly in Cyrillic but if you have windows
version with Cyrillic fonts installed like e.g. I do have US/English with
Cyrillic then you can just use search textbox of this search engine and you
can type English search keywords in it and you can find some useful stuff in
English, which isn't visible on Google....

BTW, here is a useful rather good free service to translate web pages
including Russian -> English:
http://www.online-translator.com/default.asp?lang=en 


--
Shamil
 
-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com 
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gustav Brock
Sent: Tuesday, November 21, 2006 7:31 PM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com 
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Print report to file

Hi Shamil

That's it! Thanks Shamil - never heard of that search engine. Great.

For anyone else interested in transforming or printing reports directly to
picture files, here are the notes for that version:

<quote>

Utility Print To Picture (PTP) is intended for transformation of a printer
conclusion of applications Windows to sets of raster graphic documents
(pictures). 
Easier speaking, with the help of utility PTP, any applications Windows can
make a seal in a picture, the same way, as on the printer. 

The basic characteristics of a product:

Operation system Windows 2000 or Windows XP or Windows 2003 Server 
Output format PCX, BMP or PNG 
Colority Black and White 
"Paper" form's A4, A5, square 100x100 mm, 120x120 mm, 150x150 mm, 
envelopes 160x114 mm, 229x114 mm, 229x162 mm 
Resolution 600,300,200,150,100,75,60,50 dpi 
Halftoning Supercell or offset cell from 2x2 to 16x16 points 
Page control Single page per print or multiple pages  
Cutting mode By picture content; optional 

In addition the utility allows to establish and delete printers for a seal
in a picture.

</quote>

Note that it is freeware.

/gustav


>>> shamil at users.mns.ru 21-11-2006 16:52:53 >>>
Gustav,

This seems to be a live link to this program but I'm note sure is that the
same version you used or not:

Watch line wraps:

http://ip114-110.cpe.tktor.ru:8000/files/CD-R-%eb%cf%cd%d0%d8%c0%d4%c5%d2%f0 
%d2%c5%d3%d3-12-2004/SOFT/soft_grafics/ptp102/


It can be found via www.yandex.com (Russian Internet search engine) using
ptp102.zip as search criteria.

--
Shamil
 
-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com 
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gustav Brock
Sent: Tuesday, November 21, 2006 2:47 PM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com 
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Print report to file

Hi Stuart and Rocky

There was a ptp102.zip as well. However, I've lost it, and a Russian site:

http://softok.org/multimedia/oth/3026dload.html 

where it should be for download is offline.

If anyone has the file, please drop me a message.

/gustav



From Gustav at cactus.dk  Tue Nov 21 13:06:59 2006
From: Gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Tue, 21 Nov 2006 20:06:59 +0100
Subject: [AccessD] Print report to file
Message-ID: <s5635c7e.081@cactus.dk>

Hi Rocky

You better put this life saver of yours in a safe place this time!
Or we can expect to have you whining here again in a year or so:

http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/htdig/accessd/2005-June/035448.html 

/gustav


> On 20 Nov 2006 at 23:25, Beach Access Software wrote:

> That's it!  That will be a lifesaver.  
> Rocky





From accessd at shaw.ca  Tue Nov 21 13:13:49 2006
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Tue, 21 Nov 2006 11:13:49 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] FW: [U] Soldier in Iraq needs Access Help
In-Reply-To: <456266FA.4050804@shaw.ca>
Message-ID: <0J9300G0GHCPHXA1@l-daemon>

It appears that MS, to that end, has set all their MS SQL products
time-sensitive. Any partner copies of MS SQL 2000 that have not been
installed within a certain time period will not install. 

Upon a discussion with a MS rep, though not official, it was described as an
attempt to move their partners away from supporting older versions and
towards the latest offering. This of course cause some issues with
supporting clients who have large investments in an older MS SQL and the
developer having to borrow their legal copy so a development site can be
created.... legal? I guess the push is not to continue supporting current
SQL but to encourage clients to upgrade and developer to retrain.

Comments?
Jim       

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of MartyConnelly
Sent: Monday, November 20, 2006 6:40 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] FW: [U] Soldier in Iraq needs Access Help


SQL Server 2005 Express Edition with Advanced Services SP1   234 Meg
http://msdn.microsoft.com/vstudio/express/sql/download/
Advanced Services contains the following features:

SQL Server Management Studio Express, a graphical management tool based 
on SQL Server Management Studio that makes it easy to
manage and administer SQL Server Express databases.

Reporting Services, an integrated report creation and design environment 
to create reports.

Full-Text Search, a powerful search engine for searching text-intensive 
data.


However   Note this about Vista and MSDE non support

In an effort to provide customers with more secure products, Microsoft 
Windows Server "Longhorn" and Microsoft Windows Vista will only
support SQL Server 2005 Service Pack 2 (SP2) or later when it becomes 
available. Earlier versions of SQL Server, including SQL Server 2000
(all editions including Desktop Engine edition, a.k.a MSDE), SQL Server 
7.0, and SQL Server 6.5, will not be supported on Windows Server
"Longhorn" or Windows Vista.

http://www.microsoft.com/sql/howtobuy/sqlonvista.mspx

You can use the Export functionality in Access to send data to a number 
of places, including SQL Server. You should be able to find information

on this in the Access help file, but here is the general process:
http://forums.microsoft.com/MSDN/ShowPost.aspx?PostID=295865&SiteID=1

Open your database in Access and choose the Export option.
Choose ODBC Database from the Files of Type list.
Follow the wizard to create a DSN to your SQL Express instance.
Pick the tables and click OK.
You will need to enable TCP connections to SQL in order for Access to be 
able to connect and if the SQL Express server is on a different

computer than Access you'll need to open Exceptions in the firewall on 
the server computer. Instructions on how to do that are at

http://blogs.msdn.com/sqlexpress/archive/2004/07/23/192044.aspx
http://blogs.msdn.com/sqlexpress/default.aspx
Regards,

Mike Wachal
SQL Express team

FAQ: How to connect to SQL Express from "downlevel clients"(Access 2003, 
VS 2003, VB 6, etc(basically anything that is not using .Net 2.0 or

the new SQL Native Client))
http://blogs.msdn.com/sqlexpress/archive/2004/07/23/192044.aspx

Susan Harkins wrote:

> 
>I would probably do this with SQL Server 2005 Express Edition with Advanced
>Services.SQL Server 2005 Express Edition with Advanced Services is perfect
>for use as a backend to a small, multiuser application that requires more
>advanced features such as Web reporting or Full-text Search.
>You could do this with the full version of SQL 2000 but now is available in
>Express.
>
>========Are you sure that full-text search is supported by Express? 
>
>Susan H. 
>
>  
>

-- 
Marty Connelly
Victoria, B.C.
Canada

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From wdhindman at dejpolsystems.com  Tue Nov 21 14:04:43 2006
From: wdhindman at dejpolsystems.com (William Hindman)
Date: Tue, 21 Nov 2006 15:04:43 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Print report to file
References: <s5635c7e.081@cactus.dk>
Message-ID: <002b01c70da8$4a031010$3e3de844@50NM721>

...my, my, my ...taking people to the woodshed before supper :)

...problem is, it's often easier to ask here than go searching through huge 
hard drives on half a dozen different systems ...I know I've done it myself 
:(

...but sometimes, the Watcher catches you :)

William Hindman

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Gustav Brock" <Gustav at cactus.dk>
To: <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Tuesday, November 21, 2006 2:06 PM
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Print report to file


> Hi Rocky
>
> You better put this life saver of yours in a safe place this time!
> Or we can expect to have you whining here again in a year or so:
>
> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/htdig/accessd/2005-June/035448.html
>
> /gustav
>
>
>> On 20 Nov 2006 at 23:25, Beach Access Software wrote:
>
>> That's it!  That will be a lifesaver.
>> Rocky
>
>
>
> -- 
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> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd
> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com
> 





From mwp.reid at qub.ac.uk  Tue Nov 21 14:06:12 2006
From: mwp.reid at qub.ac.uk (Martin Reid)
Date: Tue, 21 Nov 2006 20:06:12 -0000
Subject: [AccessD] Hey Shamil
References: <001401c70d9a$e95fc1c0$6401a8c0@nant>
Message-ID: <D0BF9C78D1C45C418541C852C8944FE2010861DA@qub-xchange-01.ads.qub.ac.uk>

Had a girl from your city on my course today.
 
Svetlana Svyatko
 
Her brother is a student at the University you worked at in St Petersburg.
 
Martin
 
 
Martin WP Reid
Training and Assessment Unit
Riddle Hall
Belfast
 
tel: 02890 974477
 
 

From shamil at users.mns.ru  Tue Nov 21 15:09:51 2006
From: shamil at users.mns.ru (Shamil Salakhetdinov)
Date: Wed, 22 Nov 2006 00:09:51 +0300
Subject: [AccessD] OT: RE:  Hey Shamil
In-Reply-To: <D0BF9C78D1C45C418541C852C8944FE2010861DA@qub-xchange-01.ads.qub.ac.uk>
Message-ID: <000301c70db1$62d7c9b0$6401a8c0@nant>


<<<
Her brother is a student at the University you worked at in St Petersburg.
>>>
Hello Martin,

My greetings to your student from St.Petersburg!

My son is also a student of this local University where her brother is
studying - it's a small World... :)

BTW, my son and my daughter are looking for the possible ways to continue in
the future their professional higher education somewhere abroad - what are
the best ways to do that:

- assuming they both speak English rather fluently (my daughter also speaks
French, German(studying) and some Italian(beginner level);

- I do not expect to make big bucks in the near future to pay for their
higher education abroad...

I mean there could be some grants there and somebody here in this discussion
list may know about such grants and if my kids will be able to win such
grants then they can go there...

Thank you.

--
Shamil
 
-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Martin Reid
Sent: Tuesday, November 21, 2006 11:06 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: [AccessD] Hey Shamil

Had a girl from your city on my course today.
 
Svetlana Svyatko
 
Her brother is a student at the University you worked at in St Petersburg.
 
Martin
 
 
Martin WP Reid
Training and Assessment Unit
Riddle Hall
Belfast
 
tel: 02890 974477
 
 



From mwp.reid at qub.ac.uk  Tue Nov 21 15:19:52 2006
From: mwp.reid at qub.ac.uk (Martin Reid)
Date: Tue, 21 Nov 2006 21:19:52 -0000
Subject: [AccessD] OT: RE:  Hey Shamil
References: <000301c70db1$62d7c9b0$6401a8c0@nant>
Message-ID: <D0BF9C78D1C45C418541C852C8944FE2010861DF@qub-xchange-01.ads.qub.ac.uk>

Shamil
 
I can put you in touch with teh people at my University who deal with overseas students if you woudl like.
 
 
Maritn
 
Martin WP Reid
Training and Assessment Unit
Riddle Hall
Belfast
 
tel: 02890 974477
 

________________________________

From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com on behalf of Shamil Salakhetdinov
Sent: Tue 21/11/2006 21:09
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] OT: RE: Hey Shamil




<<<
Her brother is a student at the University you worked at in St Petersburg.
>>>
Hello Martin,

My greetings to your student from St.Petersburg!

My son is also a student of this local University where her brother is
studying - it's a small World... :)

BTW, my son and my daughter are looking for the possible ways to continue in
the future their professional higher education somewhere abroad - what are
the best ways to do that:

- assuming they both speak English rather fluently (my daughter also speaks
French, German(studying) and some Italian(beginner level);

- I do not expect to make big bucks in the near future to pay for their
higher education abroad...

I mean there could be some grants there and somebody here in this discussion
list may know about such grants and if my kids will be able to win such
grants then they can go there...

Thank you.

--
Shamil

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Martin Reid
Sent: Tuesday, November 21, 2006 11:06 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: [AccessD] Hey Shamil

Had a girl from your city on my course today.

Svetlana Svyatko

Her brother is a student at the University you worked at in St Petersburg.

Martin


Martin WP Reid
Training and Assessment Unit
Riddle Hall
Belfast

tel: 02890 974477



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From dgibso at uark.edu  Tue Nov 21 15:55:31 2006
From: dgibso at uark.edu (David A Gibson)
Date: Tue, 21 Nov 2006 15:55:31 -0600
Subject: [AccessD] OT: RE:  Hey Shamil
In-Reply-To: <000301c70db1$62d7c9b0$6401a8c0@nant>
References: <D0BF9C78D1C45C418541C852C8944FE2010861DA@qub-xchange-01.ads.qub.ac.uk>
	<000301c70db1$62d7c9b0$6401a8c0@nant>
Message-ID: <7.0.1.0.0.20061121155146.01ef29a0@uark.edu>

Shamil,

I work for the University of Arkansas in Fayetteville, Arkansas.  I 
used to work with both Domestic and International Admissions but 
International has since moved toto the Graduate Admissions building.

http://www.uark.edu/ua/iao/

This may provide some information for you.

David G.

At 03:09 PM 11/21/2006, you wrote:

><<<
>Her brother is a student at the University you worked at in St Petersburg.
> >>>
>Hello Martin,
>
>My greetings to your student from St.Petersburg!
>
>My son is also a student of this local University where her brother is
>studying - it's a small World... :)
>
>BTW, my son and my daughter are looking for the possible ways to continue in
>the future their professional higher education somewhere abroad - what are
>the best ways to do that:
>
>- assuming they both speak English rather fluently (my daughter also speaks
>French, German(studying) and some Italian(beginner level);
>
>- I do not expect to make big bucks in the near future to pay for their
>higher education abroad...
>
>I mean there could be some grants there and somebody here in this discussion
>list may know about such grants and if my kids will be able to win such
>grants then they can go there...
>
>Thank you.
>
>--
>Shamil
>


From JHewson at karta.com  Tue Nov 21 16:15:17 2006
From: JHewson at karta.com (Jim Hewson)
Date: Tue, 21 Nov 2006 16:15:17 -0600
Subject: [AccessD] OT: RE:  Hey Shamil
Message-ID: <9C382E065F54AE48BC3AA7925DCBB01C04ABB12B@karta-exc-int.Karta.com>

Shamil,
My wife works for St. Mary's University in San Antonio, Texas.
This link might be of interest to you.

http://www.stmarytx.edu/iss/ 


Jim 
jhewson at karta.com
 
-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of David A Gibson
Sent: Tuesday, November 21, 2006 3:56 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] OT: RE: Hey Shamil

Shamil,

I work for the University of Arkansas in Fayetteville, Arkansas.  I 
used to work with both Domestic and International Admissions but 
International has since moved toto the Graduate Admissions building.

http://www.uark.edu/ua/iao/

This may provide some information for you.

David G.

At 03:09 PM 11/21/2006, you wrote:

><<<
>Her brother is a student at the University you worked at in St Petersburg.
> >>>
>Hello Martin,
>
>My greetings to your student from St.Petersburg!
>
>My son is also a student of this local University where her brother is
>studying - it's a small World... :)
>
>BTW, my son and my daughter are looking for the possible ways to continue in
>the future their professional higher education somewhere abroad - what are
>the best ways to do that:
>
>- assuming they both speak English rather fluently (my daughter also speaks
>French, German(studying) and some Italian(beginner level);
>
>- I do not expect to make big bucks in the near future to pay for their
>higher education abroad...
>
>I mean there could be some grants there and somebody here in this discussion
>list may know about such grants and if my kids will be able to win such
>grants then they can go there...
>
>Thank you.
>
>--
>Shamil
>
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From martyconnelly at shaw.ca  Tue Nov 21 17:14:07 2006
From: martyconnelly at shaw.ca (MartyConnelly)
Date: Tue, 21 Nov 2006 15:14:07 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] Create object
In-Reply-To: <001f01c70d54$fb1c0540$657aa8c0@m6805>
References: <001f01c70d54$fb1c0540$657aa8c0@m6805>
Message-ID: <4563883F.6090706@shaw.ca>

Not sure However
Depends if it is loaded as a service or a process

A service generally defaults to single instance
 A service is defined by a registry key under
HKLM\System\CurrentControlSet\Services, one key per service defined.
Obviously there can only be one key called Foo so you can only have one
Foo service defined.

A process is multi-instance default


CuteFTP has a code
HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\Installer\Products\7A8F1B6E2FE2CD747B4DABE7C088D565
Key Name InstanceType regword 0

JWColby wrote:

>And how do you tell this? 
>Mime-Version: 1.0
>Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
>Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
>
>
>John W. Colby
>Colby Consulting
>www.ColbyConsulting.com
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of MartyConnelly
>Sent: Monday, November 20, 2006 9:50 PM
>To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
>Subject: Re: [AccessD] Create object
>
>I think if you look through the registry it will be either multi or single
>instance registration
>
>artful at rogers.com wrote:
>
>  
>
>>Hmm, a clue. I know nothing about this software, but is there a way to open
>>    
>>
>an instance on another computer?
>  
>
>>Arthur
>>
>>----- Original Message ----
>>From: Jim Lawrence <accessd at shaw.ca>
>>To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving 
>><accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
>>Sent: Monday, November 20, 2006 12:26:20 PM
>>Subject: Re: [AccessD] Create object
>>
>>Hi John:
>>
>>The problem would appear to be with 3D-FTP which is designed to only 
>>open as a single instance, per computer....
>>
>>Jim
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> 
>>
>>    
>>
>
>--
>Marty Connelly
>Victoria, B.C.
>Canada
>
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>  
>

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Victoria, B.C.
Canada



From bchacc at san.rr.com  Tue Nov 21 17:32:47 2006
From: bchacc at san.rr.com (Beach Access Software)
Date: Tue, 21 Nov 2006 15:32:47 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] Print report to file
In-Reply-To: <s5635c7e.081@cactus.dk>
Message-ID: <010101c70dc5$5a3acd70$6401a8c0@HAL9005>

D'oh!  Busted...

Rocky


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gustav Brock
Sent: Tuesday, November 21, 2006 11:07 AM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Print report to file

Hi Rocky

You better put this life saver of yours in a safe place this time!
Or we can expect to have you whining here again in a year or so:

http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/htdig/accessd/2005-June/035448.html 

/gustav


> On 20 Nov 2006 at 23:25, Beach Access Software wrote:

> That's it!  That will be a lifesaver.  
> Rocky



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From john at winhaven.net  Tue Nov 21 17:43:47 2006
From: john at winhaven.net (John Bartow)
Date: Tue, 21 Nov 2006 17:43:47 -0600
Subject: [AccessD] Print report to file
In-Reply-To: <4562CD96.28960.8EB9A65D@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>
Message-ID: <200611212343.kALNhkq31259@databaseadvisors.com>

I've downloaded and installed PrintToPicture101.exe. 101 does work in XP
but...

I then downloaded and meant to install ptp102.zip (which is an upgrade to
101, both are by Gretchko.) The upgrade suggests you first remove the
previous version. The unistall for 101 hangs and does nothing. The
installation for 102 does nothing. I'm stuck in no man's land.

Just a word of caution.



From dwaters at usinternet.com  Tue Nov 21 17:48:34 2006
From: dwaters at usinternet.com (Dan Waters)
Date: Tue, 21 Nov 2006 17:48:34 -0600
Subject: [AccessD] OT: RE:  Hey Shamil
In-Reply-To: <33099401.1164143980850.JavaMail.root@sniper58>
Message-ID: <003c01c70dc7$8f48bbb0$0200a8c0@danwaters>

Hi Shamil!

This is the link to the University of Minnesota International Student
Admissions page.  It may be that the climate in Minneapolis is similar to
St. Petersburg.  http://www.isss.umn.edu/ 

In rummaging around the UM site, I found this link:
http://www.educationusa.state.gov/


Also, have you ever thought of contacting Microsoft to see if you could work
for them in some capacity?  It seems to me that with the skill you
definitely have, that they could find a way for you to make them some money
if they would just give you a little bit of theirs!  Really!  


Best of Luck!

Dan Waters


-----Original Message-----
Subject: [AccessD] OT: RE: Hey Shamil


<<<
Her brother is a student at the University you worked at in St Petersburg.
>>>
Hello Martin,

My greetings to your student from St.Petersburg!

My son is also a student of this local University where her brother is
studying - it's a small World... :)

BTW, my son and my daughter are looking for the possible ways to continue in
the future their professional higher education somewhere abroad - what are
the best ways to do that:

- assuming they both speak English rather fluently (my daughter also speaks
French, German(studying) and some Italian(beginner level);

- I do not expect to make big bucks in the near future to pay for their
higher education abroad...

I mean there could be some grants there and somebody here in this discussion
list may know about such grants and if my kids will be able to win such
grants then they can go there...

Thank you.

--
Shamil
 
-----Original Message-----
Subject: [AccessD] Hey Shamil

Had a girl from your city on my course today.
 
Svetlana Svyatko
 
Her brother is a student at the University you worked at in St Petersburg.
 
Martin
 
 
Martin WP Reid
Training and Assessment Unit
Riddle Hall
Belfast
 
tel: 02890 974477



From garykjos at gmail.com  Tue Nov 21 19:16:06 2006
From: garykjos at gmail.com (Gary Kjos)
Date: Tue, 21 Nov 2006 19:16:06 -0600
Subject: [AccessD] Print report to file
In-Reply-To: <200611212343.kALNhkq31259@databaseadvisors.com>
References: <4562CD96.28960.8EB9A65D@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>
	<200611212343.kALNhkq31259@databaseadvisors.com>
Message-ID: <aea6c4950611211716i1ea83840m8c61b1bd2e72784d@mail.gmail.com>

Reinstall 101 maybe?  Maybe that one will work good enough?

On 11/21/06, John Bartow <john at winhaven.net> wrote:
> I've downloaded and installed PrintToPicture101.exe. 101 does work in XP
> but...
>
> I then downloaded and meant to install ptp102.zip (which is an upgrade to
> 101, both are by Gretchko.) The upgrade suggests you first remove the
> previous version. The unistall for 101 hangs and does nothing. The
> installation for 102 does nothing. I'm stuck in no man's land.
>
> Just a word of caution.
>
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From newsgrps at dalyn.co.nz  Tue Nov 21 19:16:54 2006
From: newsgrps at dalyn.co.nz (David Emerson)
Date: Wed, 22 Nov 2006 14:16:54 +1300
Subject: [AccessD] Stored Procedure not producing results
Message-ID: <20061122011633.TNVW20709.fep02.xtra.co.nz@Dalyn.dalyn.co.nz>

SQL 2000

I have the following query running in Query Analyser:

SELECT dbo.tblCustStatement.StatementID, dbo.tblCustomers.TradingName 
as CustName, dbo.tblCustStatement.StatementDate,
         dbo.tblCustomers.AccountNo, dbo.tblCustStatement.StatementNumber
FROM dbo.tblCustomers INNER JOIN dbo.tblCustICP ON 
dbo.tblCustomers.CustomerID = dbo.tblCustICP.CustIDNo
         INNER JOIN dbo.tblCustStatement ON 
dbo.tblCustomers.CustomerID = dbo.tblCustStatement.CustIDNo
         LEFT OUTER JOIN dbo.vwAgedDebtorReceipt ON 
dbo.tblCustStatement.CustIDNo = dbo.vwAgedDebtorReceipt.CustIDNo
         AND dbo.tblCustStatement.StatementNumber = 
dbo.vwAgedDebtorReceipt.StatNum
         LEFT OUTER JOIN dbo.vwAgedDebtorReceiptInv ON 
dbo.tblCustStatement.CustIDNo = dbo.vwAgedDebtorReceiptInv.CustIDNo
         AND dbo.tblCustStatement.StatementNumber = 
dbo.vwAgedDebtorReceiptInv.InvNum
WHERE
         -- Remming out this statement works (and removing the AND at 
the beginning of the next line)
         (dbo.tblCustStatement.StatementDate >= '2006-11-01' And 
dbo.tblCustStatement.StatementDate <= '2006-11-30')
         -- Remming out this statement works
         AND (dbo.tblCustomers.AccStatus= 'Active')
         AND (dbo.tblCustStatement.[CurrentMth]+ 
dbo.tblCustStatement.[OneMonth]+ 
dbo.tblCustStatement.[TwoMonths]+ 
dbo.tblCustStatement.[ThreeMonths] + 
ISNULL(dbo.vwAgedDebtorReceipt.NetReceipts,0) 
+            ISNULL(dbo.vwAgedDebtorReceipt.GJCredit,0)+ 
ISNULL(dbo.vwAgedDebtorReceiptInv.NetReceiptsInv,0) 
+               ISNULL(dbo.vwAgedDebtorReceiptInv.GJCreditInv,0) > 20)
         AND (dbo.tblCustomers.PayArrange = 0)
         AND (dbo.tblCustomers.NoOverdueNote = 0)
         -- Remming out this statement works
         AND (   CASE
                         WHEN 
ISNUMERIC(LEFT(dbo.tblCustomers.CreditStatus,2)) = 0 THEN '00'
                         ELSE LEFT(dbo.tblCustomers.CreditStatus,2)
                 END < CAST(DAY(GETDATE()) AS varchar(2)))
         AND (dbo.tblCustomers.CreditStatus NOT LIKE 'Last%' OR 
dbo.tblCustomers.CreditStatus IS NULL)
         -- Remming out this statement works
         AND (dbo.tblCustStatement.StatementNumber <> 1)
ORDER BY CustName, dbo.tblCustomers.AccountNo, 
dbo.tblCustStatement.StatementDate

When I remark out any 1 of the AND statements noted above in the 
WHERE clause the results come back in a couple of seconds.
However, when I include all AND statement the query runs doesn't 
return any results (at least not within the first ten minutes!)

There doesn't seem to be any pattern to the lines that can be remmed 
or combinations of remaining lines.  The only clue I have is that 
data from the database from two months ago works fine but there are 
750 more records in each table being filtered.

Any suggestions as to how I can solve this - it seems to be a data 
issue but the various combinations of AND statements above doesn't make sense.




From martyconnelly at shaw.ca  Tue Nov 21 19:31:01 2006
From: martyconnelly at shaw.ca (MartyConnelly)
Date: Tue, 21 Nov 2006 17:31:01 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] OT: RE:  Hey Shamil
In-Reply-To: <000301c70db1$62d7c9b0$6401a8c0@nant>
References: <000301c70db1$62d7c9b0$6401a8c0@nant>
Message-ID: <4563A855.8070707@shaw.ca>

Here is one of interest, they usually try to attract foriegn students
with bursaries in their MA program. It attracts job offers from
External Affairs department and International Banking firms.

Norman Paterson School of International Affairs
Carleton University, Ottawa.
http://www.carleton.ca/npsia/index.html

I coughed when I saw the fees.  I had a roommate who went
through this program. She made it through by working part time
as a bank teller. It didn't interfere with her classes.
I also used to go skiing with Norman's granddaughter Ellen
Patterson who was also in the program at that time. The fees to her
were less than her allowance.

Some Candian Universities offer a CO-OP program
A split work term - university term where the student
gets work experience and enough pay to cover tuition.
Something to look for if tuition a problem.
Although a 4 year degree takes 5 years to complete.
Also you come out with two years work experience.
Microsoft grabs a lot of these guys at Waterloo for work terms.

http://www.cecs.uwaterloo.ca/students/prospective/

Waterloo is one of the top Math/Engineering schools in Canada.
Computer Science is part of the Mathematics Faculty.
Located 120 miles west of Toronto.
http://www.uwaterloo.ca/

Shamil Salakhetdinov wrote:

><<<
>Her brother is a student at the University you worked at in St Petersburg.
>  
>
>Hello Martin,
>
>My greetings to your student from St.Petersburg!
>
>My son is also a student of this local University where her brother is
>studying - it's a small World... :)
>
>BTW, my son and my daughter are looking for the possible ways to continue in
>the future their professional higher education somewhere abroad - what are
>the best ways to do that:
>
>- assuming they both speak English rather fluently (my daughter also speaks
>French, German(studying) and some Italian(beginner level);
>
>- I do not expect to make big bucks in the near future to pay for their
>higher education abroad...
>
>I mean there could be some grants there and somebody here in this discussion
>list may know about such grants and if my kids will be able to win such
>grants then they can go there...
>
>Thank you.
>
>--
>Shamil
> 
>-----Original Message-----
>From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Martin Reid
>Sent: Tuesday, November 21, 2006 11:06 PM
>To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
>Subject: [AccessD] Hey Shamil
>
>Had a girl from your city on my course today.
> 
>Svetlana Svyatko
> 
>Her brother is a student at the University you worked at in St Petersburg.
> 
>Martin
> 
> 
>Martin WP Reid
>Training and Assessment Unit
>Riddle Hall
>Belfast
> 
>tel: 02890 974477
> 
> 
>
>  
>

-- 
Marty Connelly
Victoria, B.C.
Canada



From bchacc at san.rr.com  Tue Nov 21 19:34:02 2006
From: bchacc at san.rr.com (Beach Access Software)
Date: Tue, 21 Nov 2006 17:34:02 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] Print report to file
In-Reply-To: <aea6c4950611211716i1ea83840m8c61b1bd2e72784d@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <014a01c70dd6$4ac8bb20$6401a8c0@HAL9005>

You know, I installed 1.02 right over 1.01 without a problem.  But the first
time it aborted because 1.01 was still running.  After I terminated 1.01,
the install of 1.02 went just fine.

Rocky


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gary Kjos
Sent: Tuesday, November 21, 2006 5:16 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Print report to file

Reinstall 101 maybe?  Maybe that one will work good enough?

On 11/21/06, John Bartow <john at winhaven.net> wrote:
> I've downloaded and installed PrintToPicture101.exe. 101 does work in XP
> but...
>
> I then downloaded and meant to install ptp102.zip (which is an upgrade to
> 101, both are by Gretchko.) The upgrade suggests you first remove the
> previous version. The unistall for 101 hangs and does nothing. The
> installation for 102 does nothing. I'm stuck in no man's land.
>
> Just a word of caution.
>
> --
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>


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From martyconnelly at shaw.ca  Tue Nov 21 20:33:11 2006
From: martyconnelly at shaw.ca (MartyConnelly)
Date: Tue, 21 Nov 2006 18:33:11 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] Stored Procedure not producing results
In-Reply-To: <20061122011633.TNVW20709.fep02.xtra.co.nz@Dalyn.dalyn.co.nz>
References: <20061122011633.TNVW20709.fep02.xtra.co.nz@Dalyn.dalyn.co.nz>
Message-ID: <4563B6E7.8050602@shaw.ca>

How about limiting the returned records with
something like Select TOP  10
I forget the exact syntax for SQL 2000
 like the LIMIT statement in MySQL or WHERE ROWNUM >11
in Oracle or new function ROW_NUMBER()  in SQL 2005


David Emerson wrote:

>SQL 2000
>
>I have the following query running in Query Analyser:
>
>SELECT dbo.tblCustStatement.StatementID, dbo.tblCustomers.TradingName 
>as CustName, dbo.tblCustStatement.StatementDate,
>         dbo.tblCustomers.AccountNo, dbo.tblCustStatement.StatementNumber
>FROM dbo.tblCustomers INNER JOIN dbo.tblCustICP ON 
>dbo.tblCustomers.CustomerID = dbo.tblCustICP.CustIDNo
>         INNER JOIN dbo.tblCustStatement ON 
>dbo.tblCustomers.CustomerID = dbo.tblCustStatement.CustIDNo
>         LEFT OUTER JOIN dbo.vwAgedDebtorReceipt ON 
>dbo.tblCustStatement.CustIDNo = dbo.vwAgedDebtorReceipt.CustIDNo
>         AND dbo.tblCustStatement.StatementNumber = 
>dbo.vwAgedDebtorReceipt.StatNum
>         LEFT OUTER JOIN dbo.vwAgedDebtorReceiptInv ON 
>dbo.tblCustStatement.CustIDNo = dbo.vwAgedDebtorReceiptInv.CustIDNo
>         AND dbo.tblCustStatement.StatementNumber = 
>dbo.vwAgedDebtorReceiptInv.InvNum
>WHERE
>         -- Remming out this statement works (and removing the AND at 
>the beginning of the next line)
>         (dbo.tblCustStatement.StatementDate >= '2006-11-01' And 
>dbo.tblCustStatement.StatementDate <= '2006-11-30')
>         -- Remming out this statement works
>         AND (dbo.tblCustomers.AccStatus= 'Active')
>         AND (dbo.tblCustStatement.[CurrentMth]+ 
>dbo.tblCustStatement.[OneMonth]+ 
>dbo.tblCustStatement.[TwoMonths]+ 
>dbo.tblCustStatement.[ThreeMonths] + 
>ISNULL(dbo.vwAgedDebtorReceipt.NetReceipts,0) 
>+            ISNULL(dbo.vwAgedDebtorReceipt.GJCredit,0)+ 
>ISNULL(dbo.vwAgedDebtorReceiptInv.NetReceiptsInv,0) 
>+               ISNULL(dbo.vwAgedDebtorReceiptInv.GJCreditInv,0) > 20)
>         AND (dbo.tblCustomers.PayArrange = 0)
>         AND (dbo.tblCustomers.NoOverdueNote = 0)
>         -- Remming out this statement works
>         AND (   CASE
>                         WHEN 
>ISNUMERIC(LEFT(dbo.tblCustomers.CreditStatus,2)) = 0 THEN '00'
>                         ELSE LEFT(dbo.tblCustomers.CreditStatus,2)
>                 END < CAST(DAY(GETDATE()) AS varchar(2)))
>         AND (dbo.tblCustomers.CreditStatus NOT LIKE 'Last%' OR 
>dbo.tblCustomers.CreditStatus IS NULL)
>         -- Remming out this statement works
>         AND (dbo.tblCustStatement.StatementNumber <> 1)
>ORDER BY CustName, dbo.tblCustomers.AccountNo, 
>dbo.tblCustStatement.StatementDate
>
>When I remark out any 1 of the AND statements noted above in the 
>WHERE clause the results come back in a couple of seconds.
>However, when I include all AND statement the query runs doesn't 
>return any results (at least not within the first ten minutes!)
>
>There doesn't seem to be any pattern to the lines that can be remmed 
>or combinations of remaining lines.  The only clue I have is that 
>data from the database from two months ago works fine but there are 
>750 more records in each table being filtered.
>
>Any suggestions as to how I can solve this - it seems to be a data 
>issue but the various combinations of AND statements above doesn't make sense.
>
>
>  
>

-- 
Marty Connelly
Victoria, B.C.
Canada



From artful at rogers.com  Tue Nov 21 20:43:18 2006
From: artful at rogers.com (artful at rogers.com)
Date: Tue, 21 Nov 2006 18:43:18 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [AccessD] Stored Procedure not producing results
Message-ID: <20061122024318.35961.qmail@web88206.mail.re2.yahoo.com>

You are forcing table scans everywhere. You must rethink this. Divide the problems into atomic queries and then build up to molecular queries. The ANDs are killing you. Do the OUTER JOINs first, each as an atom, then combine those, then do your query. I suggest that performance will escalate dramatically.

hth,
Arthur

David Emerson wrote:

>SQL 2000
>
>I have the following query running in Query Analyser:
>
>SELECT dbo.tblCustStatement.StatementID, dbo.tblCustomers.TradingName 
>as CustName, dbo.tblCustStatement.StatementDate,
>         dbo.tblCustomers.AccountNo, dbo.tblCustStatement.StatementNumber
>FROM dbo.tblCustomers INNER JOIN dbo.tblCustICP ON 
>dbo.tblCustomers.CustomerID = dbo.tblCustICP.CustIDNo
>         INNER JOIN dbo.tblCustStatement ON 
>dbo.tblCustomers.CustomerID = dbo.tblCustStatement.CustIDNo
>         LEFT OUTER JOIN dbo.vwAgedDebtorReceipt ON 
>dbo.tblCustStatement.CustIDNo = dbo.vwAgedDebtorReceipt.CustIDNo
>         AND dbo.tblCustStatement.StatementNumber = 
>dbo.vwAgedDebtorReceipt.StatNum
>         LEFT OUTER JOIN dbo.vwAgedDebtorReceiptInv ON 
>dbo.tblCustStatement.CustIDNo = dbo.vwAgedDebtorReceiptInv.CustIDNo
>         AND dbo.tblCustStatement.StatementNumber = 
>dbo.vwAgedDebtorReceiptInv.InvNum
>WHERE
>         -- Remming out this statement works (and removing the AND at 
>the beginning of the next line)
>         (dbo.tblCustStatement.StatementDate >= '2006-11-01' And 
>dbo.tblCustStatement.StatementDate <= '2006-11-30')
>         -- Remming out this statement works
>         AND (dbo.tblCustomers.AccStatus= 'Active')
>         AND (dbo.tblCustStatement.[CurrentMth]+ 
>dbo.tblCustStatement.[OneMonth]+ 
>dbo.tblCustStatement.[TwoMonths]+ 
>dbo.tblCustStatement.[ThreeMonths] + 
>ISNULL(dbo.vwAgedDebtorReceipt.NetReceipts,0) 
>+            ISNULL(dbo.vwAgedDebtorReceipt.GJCredit,0)+ 
>ISNULL(dbo.vwAgedDebtorReceiptInv.NetReceiptsInv,0) 
>+               ISNULL(dbo.vwAgedDebtorReceiptInv.GJCreditInv,0) > 20)
>         AND (dbo.tblCustomers.PayArrange = 0)
>         AND (dbo.tblCustomers.NoOverdueNote = 0)
>         -- Remming out this statement works
>         AND (   CASE
>                         WHEN 
>ISNUMERIC(LEFT(dbo.tblCustomers.CreditStatus,2)) = 0 THEN '00'
>                         ELSE LEFT(dbo.tblCustomers.CreditStatus,2)
>                 END < CAST(DAY(GETDATE()) AS varchar(2)))
>         AND (dbo.tblCustomers.CreditStatus NOT LIKE 'Last%' OR 
>dbo.tblCustomers.CreditStatus IS NULL)
>         -- Remming out this statement works
>         AND (dbo.tblCustStatement.StatementNumber <> 1)
>ORDER BY CustName, dbo.tblCustomers.AccountNo, 
>dbo.tblCustStatement.StatementDate
>
>When I remark out any 1 of the AND statements noted above in the 
>WHERE clause the results come back in a couple of seconds.
>However, when I include all AND statement the query runs doesn't 
>return any results (at least not within the first ten minutes!)
>
>There doesn't seem to be any pattern to the lines that can be remmed 
>or combinations of remaining lines.  The only clue I have is that 
>data from the database from two months ago works fine but there are 
>750 more records in each table being filtered.
>
>Any suggestions as to how I can solve this - it seems to be a data 
>issue but the various combinations of AND statements above doesn't make sense.
>
>
>  
>

-- 
Marty Connelly
Victoria, B.C.
Canada

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From newsgrps at dalyn.co.nz  Tue Nov 21 21:18:31 2006
From: newsgrps at dalyn.co.nz (David Emerson)
Date: Wed, 22 Nov 2006 16:18:31 +1300
Subject: [AccessD] Stored Procedure not producing results
In-Reply-To: <20061122024318.35961.qmail@web88206.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
References: <20061122024318.35961.qmail@web88206.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <20061122031958.TUHI27418.fep05.xtra.co.nz@Dalyn.dalyn.co.nz>

Thanks Arthur,

I am not quite sure what you mean.  Are you suggesting that I create 
queries within the query to do the filtering? For example, instead of 
filtering the dbo.tblCustomers table in the WHERE statement, I should 
use a query in the FROM statement based on the dbo.tblCustomers table 
and filter there?

David

At 22/11/2006, you wrote:
>You are forcing table scans everywhere. You must rethink this. 
>Divide the problems into atomic queries and then build up to 
>molecular queries. The ANDs are killing you. Do the OUTER JOINs 
>first, each as an atom, then combine those, then do your query. I 
>suggest that performance will escalate dramatically.
>
>hth,
>Arthur
>
>David Emerson wrote:
>
> >SQL 2000
> >
> >I have the following query running in Query Analyser:
> >
> >SELECT dbo.tblCustStatement.StatementID, dbo.tblCustomers.TradingName
> >as CustName, dbo.tblCustStatement.StatementDate,
> >         dbo.tblCustomers.AccountNo, dbo.tblCustStatement.StatementNumber
> >FROM dbo.tblCustomers INNER JOIN dbo.tblCustICP ON
> >dbo.tblCustomers.CustomerID = dbo.tblCustICP.CustIDNo
> >         INNER JOIN dbo.tblCustStatement ON
> >dbo.tblCustomers.CustomerID = dbo.tblCustStatement.CustIDNo
> >         LEFT OUTER JOIN dbo.vwAgedDebtorReceipt ON
> >dbo.tblCustStatement.CustIDNo = dbo.vwAgedDebtorReceipt.CustIDNo
> >         AND dbo.tblCustStatement.StatementNumber =
> >dbo.vwAgedDebtorReceipt.StatNum
> >         LEFT OUTER JOIN dbo.vwAgedDebtorReceiptInv ON
> >dbo.tblCustStatement.CustIDNo = dbo.vwAgedDebtorReceiptInv.CustIDNo
> >         AND dbo.tblCustStatement.StatementNumber =
> >dbo.vwAgedDebtorReceiptInv.InvNum
> >WHERE
> >         -- Remming out this statement works (and removing the AND at
> >the beginning of the next line)
> >         (dbo.tblCustStatement.StatementDate >= '2006-11-01' And
> >dbo.tblCustStatement.StatementDate <= '2006-11-30')
> >         -- Remming out this statement works
> >         AND (dbo.tblCustomers.AccStatus= 'Active')
> >         AND (dbo.tblCustStatement.[CurrentMth]+
> >dbo.tblCustStatement.[OneMonth]+
> >dbo.tblCustStatement.[TwoMonths]+
> >dbo.tblCustStatement.[ThreeMonths] +
> >ISNULL(dbo.vwAgedDebtorReceipt.NetReceipts,0)
> >+            ISNULL(dbo.vwAgedDebtorReceipt.GJCredit,0)+
> >ISNULL(dbo.vwAgedDebtorReceiptInv.NetReceiptsInv,0)
> >+               ISNULL(dbo.vwAgedDebtorReceiptInv.GJCreditInv,0) > 20)
> >         AND (dbo.tblCustomers.PayArrange = 0)
> >         AND (dbo.tblCustomers.NoOverdueNote = 0)
> >         -- Remming out this statement works
> >         AND (   CASE
> >                         WHEN
> >ISNUMERIC(LEFT(dbo.tblCustomers.CreditStatus,2)) = 0 THEN '00'
> >                         ELSE LEFT(dbo.tblCustomers.CreditStatus,2)
> >                 END < CAST(DAY(GETDATE()) AS varchar(2)))
> >         AND (dbo.tblCustomers.CreditStatus NOT LIKE 'Last%' OR
> >dbo.tblCustomers.CreditStatus IS NULL)
> >         -- Remming out this statement works
> >         AND (dbo.tblCustStatement.StatementNumber <> 1)
> >ORDER BY CustName, dbo.tblCustomers.AccountNo,
> >dbo.tblCustStatement.StatementDate
> >
> >When I remark out any 1 of the AND statements noted above in the
> >WHERE clause the results come back in a couple of seconds.
> >However, when I include all AND statement the query runs doesn't
> >return any results (at least not within the first ten minutes!)
> >
> >There doesn't seem to be any pattern to the lines that can be remmed
> >or combinations of remaining lines.  The only clue I have is that
> >data from the database from two months ago works fine but there are
> >750 more records in each table being filtered.
> >
> >Any suggestions as to how I can solve this - it seems to be a data
> >issue but the various combinations of AND statements above doesn't 
> make sense.
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>--
>Marty Connelly
>Victoria, B.C.
>Canada
>
>--
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>
>
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From newsgrps at dalyn.co.nz  Tue Nov 21 21:24:50 2006
From: newsgrps at dalyn.co.nz (David Emerson)
Date: Wed, 22 Nov 2006 16:24:50 +1300
Subject: [AccessD] Stored Procedure not producing results
In-Reply-To: <4563B6E7.8050602@shaw.ca>
References: <20061122011633.TNVW20709.fep02.xtra.co.nz@Dalyn.dalyn.co.nz>
	<4563B6E7.8050602@shaw.ca>
Message-ID: <20061122032423.TEMG29801.fep06.xtra.co.nz@Dalyn.dalyn.co.nz>

Thanks for the suggestion, however since we want all the records that 
match the filters I can't see how using TOP will help (unless it is TOP 100)?

David

At 22/11/2006, you wrote:
>How about limiting the returned records with
>something like Select TOP  10
>I forget the exact syntax for SQL 2000
>  like the LIMIT statement in MySQL or WHERE ROWNUM >11
>in Oracle or new function ROW_NUMBER()  in SQL 2005
>
>
>David Emerson wrote:
>
> >SQL 2000
> >
> >I have the following query running in Query Analyser:
> >
> >SELECT dbo.tblCustStatement.StatementID, dbo.tblCustomers.TradingName
> >as CustName, dbo.tblCustStatement.StatementDate,
> >         dbo.tblCustomers.AccountNo, dbo.tblCustStatement.StatementNumber
> >FROM dbo.tblCustomers INNER JOIN dbo.tblCustICP ON
> >dbo.tblCustomers.CustomerID = dbo.tblCustICP.CustIDNo
> >         INNER JOIN dbo.tblCustStatement ON
> >dbo.tblCustomers.CustomerID = dbo.tblCustStatement.CustIDNo
> >         LEFT OUTER JOIN dbo.vwAgedDebtorReceipt ON
> >dbo.tblCustStatement.CustIDNo = dbo.vwAgedDebtorReceipt.CustIDNo
> >         AND dbo.tblCustStatement.StatementNumber =
> >dbo.vwAgedDebtorReceipt.StatNum
> >         LEFT OUTER JOIN dbo.vwAgedDebtorReceiptInv ON
> >dbo.tblCustStatement.CustIDNo = dbo.vwAgedDebtorReceiptInv.CustIDNo
> >         AND dbo.tblCustStatement.StatementNumber =
> >dbo.vwAgedDebtorReceiptInv.InvNum
> >WHERE
> >         -- Remming out this statement works (and removing the AND at
> >the beginning of the next line)
> >         (dbo.tblCustStatement.StatementDate >= '2006-11-01' And
> >dbo.tblCustStatement.StatementDate <= '2006-11-30')
> >         -- Remming out this statement works
> >         AND (dbo.tblCustomers.AccStatus= 'Active')
> >         AND (dbo.tblCustStatement.[CurrentMth]+
> >dbo.tblCustStatement.[OneMonth]+
> >dbo.tblCustStatement.[TwoMonths]+
> >dbo.tblCustStatement.[ThreeMonths] +
> >ISNULL(dbo.vwAgedDebtorReceipt.NetReceipts,0)
> >+            ISNULL(dbo.vwAgedDebtorReceipt.GJCredit,0)+
> >ISNULL(dbo.vwAgedDebtorReceiptInv.NetReceiptsInv,0)
> >+               ISNULL(dbo.vwAgedDebtorReceiptInv.GJCreditInv,0) > 20)
> >         AND (dbo.tblCustomers.PayArrange = 0)
> >         AND (dbo.tblCustomers.NoOverdueNote = 0)
> >         -- Remming out this statement works
> >         AND (   CASE
> >                         WHEN
> >ISNUMERIC(LEFT(dbo.tblCustomers.CreditStatus,2)) = 0 THEN '00'
> >                         ELSE LEFT(dbo.tblCustomers.CreditStatus,2)
> >                 END < CAST(DAY(GETDATE()) AS varchar(2)))
> >         AND (dbo.tblCustomers.CreditStatus NOT LIKE 'Last%' OR
> >dbo.tblCustomers.CreditStatus IS NULL)
> >         -- Remming out this statement works
> >         AND (dbo.tblCustStatement.StatementNumber <> 1)
> >ORDER BY CustName, dbo.tblCustomers.AccountNo,
> >dbo.tblCustStatement.StatementDate
> >
> >When I remark out any 1 of the AND statements noted above in the
> >WHERE clause the results come back in a couple of seconds.
> >However, when I include all AND statement the query runs doesn't
> >return any results (at least not within the first ten minutes!)
> >
> >There doesn't seem to be any pattern to the lines that can be remmed
> >or combinations of remaining lines.  The only clue I have is that
> >data from the database from two months ago works fine but there are
> >750 more records in each table being filtered.
> >
> >Any suggestions as to how I can solve this - it seems to be a data
> >issue but the various combinations of AND statements above doesn't 
> make sense.
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>--
>Marty Connelly
>Victoria, B.C.
>Canada
>
>--
>AccessD mailing list
>AccessD at databaseadvisors.com
>http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd
>Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com



From newsgrps at dalyn.co.nz  Tue Nov 21 21:28:26 2006
From: newsgrps at dalyn.co.nz (David Emerson)
Date: Wed, 22 Nov 2006 16:28:26 +1300
Subject: [AccessD] Stored Procedure not producing results
In-Reply-To: <20061122024318.35961.qmail@web88206.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
References: <20061122024318.35961.qmail@web88206.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <20061122032815.UFBO27418.fep05.xtra.co.nz@Dalyn.dalyn.co.nz>

Another thing - I have another database which is basically the same 
structure with over 4 times the number of records in all tables, and 
that works with the same query no problem.

David

At 22/11/2006, you wrote:
>You are forcing table scans everywhere. You must rethink this. 
>Divide the problems into atomic queries and then build up to 
>molecular queries. The ANDs are killing you. Do the OUTER JOINs 
>first, each as an atom, then combine those, then do your query. I 
>suggest that performance will escalate dramatically.
>
>hth,
>Arthur
>
>David Emerson wrote:
>
> >SQL 2000
> >
> >I have the following query running in Query Analyser:
> >
> >SELECT dbo.tblCustStatement.StatementID, dbo.tblCustomers.TradingName
> >as CustName, dbo.tblCustStatement.StatementDate,
> >         dbo.tblCustomers.AccountNo, dbo.tblCustStatement.StatementNumber
> >FROM dbo.tblCustomers INNER JOIN dbo.tblCustICP ON
> >dbo.tblCustomers.CustomerID = dbo.tblCustICP.CustIDNo
> >         INNER JOIN dbo.tblCustStatement ON
> >dbo.tblCustomers.CustomerID = dbo.tblCustStatement.CustIDNo
> >         LEFT OUTER JOIN dbo.vwAgedDebtorReceipt ON
> >dbo.tblCustStatement.CustIDNo = dbo.vwAgedDebtorReceipt.CustIDNo
> >         AND dbo.tblCustStatement.StatementNumber =
> >dbo.vwAgedDebtorReceipt.StatNum
> >         LEFT OUTER JOIN dbo.vwAgedDebtorReceiptInv ON
> >dbo.tblCustStatement.CustIDNo = dbo.vwAgedDebtorReceiptInv.CustIDNo
> >         AND dbo.tblCustStatement.StatementNumber =
> >dbo.vwAgedDebtorReceiptInv.InvNum
> >WHERE
> >         -- Remming out this statement works (and removing the AND at
> >the beginning of the next line)
> >         (dbo.tblCustStatement.StatementDate >= '2006-11-01' And
> >dbo.tblCustStatement.StatementDate <= '2006-11-30')
> >         -- Remming out this statement works
> >         AND (dbo.tblCustomers.AccStatus= 'Active')
> >         AND (dbo.tblCustStatement.[CurrentMth]+
> >dbo.tblCustStatement.[OneMonth]+
> >dbo.tblCustStatement.[TwoMonths]+
> >dbo.tblCustStatement.[ThreeMonths] +
> >ISNULL(dbo.vwAgedDebtorReceipt.NetReceipts,0)
> >+            ISNULL(dbo.vwAgedDebtorReceipt.GJCredit,0)+
> >ISNULL(dbo.vwAgedDebtorReceiptInv.NetReceiptsInv,0)
> >+               ISNULL(dbo.vwAgedDebtorReceiptInv.GJCreditInv,0) > 20)
> >         AND (dbo.tblCustomers.PayArrange = 0)
> >         AND (dbo.tblCustomers.NoOverdueNote = 0)
> >         -- Remming out this statement works
> >         AND (   CASE
> >                         WHEN
> >ISNUMERIC(LEFT(dbo.tblCustomers.CreditStatus,2)) = 0 THEN '00'
> >                         ELSE LEFT(dbo.tblCustomers.CreditStatus,2)
> >                 END < CAST(DAY(GETDATE()) AS varchar(2)))
> >         AND (dbo.tblCustomers.CreditStatus NOT LIKE 'Last%' OR
> >dbo.tblCustomers.CreditStatus IS NULL)
> >         -- Remming out this statement works
> >         AND (dbo.tblCustStatement.StatementNumber <> 1)
> >ORDER BY CustName, dbo.tblCustomers.AccountNo,
> >dbo.tblCustStatement.StatementDate
> >
> >When I remark out any 1 of the AND statements noted above in the
> >WHERE clause the results come back in a couple of seconds.
> >However, when I include all AND statement the query runs doesn't
> >return any results (at least not within the first ten minutes!)
> >
> >There doesn't seem to be any pattern to the lines that can be remmed
> >or combinations of remaining lines.  The only clue I have is that
> >data from the database from two months ago works fine but there are
> >750 more records in each table being filtered.
> >
> >Any suggestions as to how I can solve this - it seems to be a data
> >issue but the various combinations of AND statements above doesn't 
> make sense.
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>--
>Marty Connelly
>Victoria, B.C.
>Canada
>
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>
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From artful at rogers.com  Tue Nov 21 21:33:28 2006
From: artful at rogers.com (artful at rogers.com)
Date: Tue, 21 Nov 2006 19:33:28 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [AccessD] Stored Procedure not producing results
Message-ID: <20061122033328.33489.qmail@web88205.mail.re2.yahoo.com>

Precisely. I call this "Atomic and Molecular Queries." Atomic queries address precisely one table (or view), and molecular queries assemble at least two atomic queries. This gives you a) optimization and b) re-usability.

Arthur

----- Original Message ----
From: David Emerson <newsgrps at dalyn.co.nz>
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Tuesday, November 21, 2006 10:18:31 PM
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Stored Procedure not producing results

Thanks Arthur,

I am not quite sure what you mean.  Are you suggesting that I create 
queries within the query to do the filtering? For example, instead of 
filtering the dbo.tblCustomers table in the WHERE statement, I should 
use a query in the FROM statement based on the dbo.tblCustomers table 
and filter there?

David

At 22/11/2006, you wrote:
>You are forcing table scans everywhere. You must rethink this. 
>Divide the problems into atomic queries and then build up to 
>molecular queries. The ANDs are killing you. Do the OUTER JOINs 
>first, each as an atom, then combine those, then do your query. I 
>suggest that performance will escalate dramatically.
>
>hth,
>Arthur
>
>David Emerson wrote:
>
> >SQL 2000
> >
> >I have the following query running in Query Analyser:
> >
> >SELECT dbo.tblCustStatement.StatementID, dbo.tblCustomers.TradingName
> >as CustName, dbo.tblCustStatement.StatementDate,
> >         dbo.tblCustomers.AccountNo, dbo.tblCustStatement.StatementNumber
> >FROM dbo.tblCustomers INNER JOIN dbo.tblCustICP ON
> >dbo.tblCustomers.CustomerID = dbo.tblCustICP.CustIDNo
> >         INNER JOIN dbo.tblCustStatement ON
> >dbo.tblCustomers.CustomerID = dbo.tblCustStatement.CustIDNo
> >         LEFT OUTER JOIN dbo.vwAgedDebtorReceipt ON
> >dbo.tblCustStatement.CustIDNo = dbo.vwAgedDebtorReceipt.CustIDNo
> >         AND dbo.tblCustStatement.StatementNumber =
> >dbo.vwAgedDebtorReceipt.StatNum
> >         LEFT OUTER JOIN dbo.vwAgedDebtorReceiptInv ON
> >dbo.tblCustStatement.CustIDNo = dbo.vwAgedDebtorReceiptInv.CustIDNo
> >         AND dbo.tblCustStatement.StatementNumber =
> >dbo.vwAgedDebtorReceiptInv.InvNum
> >WHERE
> >         -- Remming out this statement works (and removing the AND at
> >the beginning of the next line)
> >         (dbo.tblCustStatement.StatementDate >= '2006-11-01' And
> >dbo.tblCustStatement.StatementDate <= '2006-11-30')
> >         -- Remming out this statement works
> >         AND (dbo.tblCustomers.AccStatus= 'Active')
> >         AND (dbo.tblCustStatement.[CurrentMth]+
> >dbo.tblCustStatement.[OneMonth]+
> >dbo.tblCustStatement.[TwoMonths]+
> >dbo.tblCustStatement.[ThreeMonths] +
> >ISNULL(dbo.vwAgedDebtorReceipt.NetReceipts,0)
> >+            ISNULL(dbo.vwAgedDebtorReceipt.GJCredit,0)+
> >ISNULL(dbo.vwAgedDebtorReceiptInv.NetReceiptsInv,0)
> >+               ISNULL(dbo.vwAgedDebtorReceiptInv.GJCreditInv,0) > 20)
> >         AND (dbo.tblCustomers.PayArrange = 0)
> >         AND (dbo.tblCustomers.NoOverdueNote = 0)
> >         -- Remming out this statement works
> >         AND (   CASE
> >                         WHEN
> >ISNUMERIC(LEFT(dbo.tblCustomers.CreditStatus,2)) = 0 THEN '00'
> >                         ELSE LEFT(dbo.tblCustomers.CreditStatus,2)
> >                 END < CAST(DAY(GETDATE()) AS varchar(2)))
> >         AND (dbo.tblCustomers.CreditStatus NOT LIKE 'Last%' OR
> >dbo.tblCustomers.CreditStatus IS NULL)
> >         -- Remming out this statement works
> >         AND (dbo.tblCustStatement.StatementNumber <> 1)
> >ORDER BY CustName, dbo.tblCustomers.AccountNo,
> >dbo.tblCustStatement.StatementDate
> >
> >When I remark out any 1 of the AND statements noted above in the
> >WHERE clause the results come back in a couple of seconds.
> >However, when I include all AND statement the query runs doesn't
> >return any results (at least not within the first ten minutes!)
> >
> >There doesn't seem to be any pattern to the lines that can be remmed
> >or combinations of remaining lines.  The only clue I have is that
> >data from the database from two months ago works fine but there are
> >750 more records in each table being filtered.
> >
> >Any suggestions as to how I can solve this - it seems to be a data
> >issue but the various combinations of AND statements above doesn't 
> make sense.
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
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>Canada
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From artful at rogers.com  Tue Nov 21 21:34:30 2006
From: artful at rogers.com (artful at rogers.com)
Date: Tue, 21 Nov 2006 19:34:30 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [AccessD] Stored Procedure not producing results
Message-ID: <20061122033430.98449.qmail@web88209.mail.re2.yahoo.com>

Then compare the table definitions and the index definitions. Something is radically amiss if it works here and not there.

Arthur

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From: David Emerson <newsgrps at dalyn.co.nz>
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Tuesday, November 21, 2006 10:28:26 PM
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Stored Procedure not producing results

Another thing - I have another database which is basically the same 
structure with over 4 times the number of records in all tables, and 
that works with the same query no problem.

David






From newsgrps at dalyn.co.nz  Tue Nov 21 21:53:58 2006
From: newsgrps at dalyn.co.nz (David Emerson)
Date: Wed, 22 Nov 2006 16:53:58 +1300
Subject: [AccessD] Stored Procedure not producing results
In-Reply-To: <20061122033430.98449.qmail@web88209.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
References: <20061122033430.98449.qmail@web88209.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <20061122035352.VPNA27418.fep05.xtra.co.nz@Dalyn.dalyn.co.nz>

Worse - my database from two months ago works fine, but the latest 
version is the one that is causing the problem.  This may indicate a 
data problem perhaps?

David

At 22/11/2006, artful at rogers.com wrote:
>Then compare the table definitions and the index definitions. 
>Something is radically amiss if it works here and not there.
>
>Arthur
>
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>To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving 
><accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
>Sent: Tuesday, November 21, 2006 10:28:26 PM
>Subject: Re: [AccessD] Stored Procedure not producing results
>
>Another thing - I have another database which is basically the same
>structure with over 4 times the number of records in all tables, and
>that works with the same query no problem.
>
>David
>
>
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From artful at rogers.com  Wed Nov 22 05:08:27 2006
From: artful at rogers.com (artful at rogers.com)
Date: Wed, 22 Nov 2006 03:08:27 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [AccessD] Stored Procedure not producing results
Message-ID: <20061122110827.11706.qmail@web88207.mail.re2.yahoo.com>

If the structures haven't changed, then the data is the villain. But you have a concrete clue to work from. Devise some scope that will include only the data from two months ago and verify your assertion. Then expand the scope to "two months ago plus a day" and run it again. Repeat until failure.

This assumes of course that the scope is expandable so easily. (A good reason to have a "DateEntered" column in every table, which defaults to GetDate()). 

----- Original Message ----
From: David Emerson <newsgrps at dalyn.co.nz>
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>; Access Developers discussion and problem solving <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Tuesday, November 21, 2006 10:53:58 PM
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Stored Procedure not producing results

Worse - my database from two months ago works fine, but the latest 
version is the one that is causing the problem.  This may indicate a 
data problem perhaps?

David






From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com  Wed Nov 22 05:16:35 2006
From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (JWColby)
Date: Wed, 22 Nov 2006 06:16:35 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Stored Procedure not producing results
In-Reply-To: <20061122110827.11706.qmail@web88207.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <001a01c70e27$ae2f3030$647aa8c0@m6805>

>This assumes of course that the scope is expandable so easily. (A good
reason to have a "DateEntered" column in every table, which defaults to
GetDate()). 

Amen!  I do that regularly now.  It juts makes managing data so much easier
when you can see when it was entered.  I actually use the date + time so
that I can see things like how long an append query takes to run (time of
last entry in the "batch minus time of first entry in the "batch").


John W. Colby
Colby Consulting
www.ColbyConsulting.com

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of artful at rogers.com
Sent: Wednesday, November 22, 2006 6:08 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Stored Procedure not producing results

If the structures haven't changed, then the data is the villain. But you
have a concrete clue to work from. Devise some scope that will include only
the data from two months ago and verify your assertion. Then expand the
scope to "two months ago plus a day" and run it again. Repeat until failure.

This assumes of course that the scope is expandable so easily. (A good
reason to have a "DateEntered" column in every table, which defaults to
GetDate()). 

----- Original Message ----
From: David Emerson <newsgrps at dalyn.co.nz>
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>; Access Developers discussion and problem
solving <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Tuesday, November 21, 2006 10:53:58 PM
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Stored Procedure not producing results

Worse - my database from two months ago works fine, but the latest version
is the one that is causing the problem.  This may indicate a data problem
perhaps?

David




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From Gustav at cactus.dk  Wed Nov 22 05:53:06 2006
From: Gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Wed, 22 Nov 2006 12:53:06 +0100
Subject: [AccessD] Print report to file
Message-ID: <s5644858.084@cactus.dk>

Hi Rocky and John

Yes, that's what may be required. Gretchko's own advice is a reboot:

5. Setup the new version of the program it is desirable after removal old version. Before installation it is desirable to reboot a computer.

/gustav


>>> bchacc at san.rr.com 22-11-2006 02:34:02 >>>
You know, I installed 1.02 right over 1.01 without a problem.  But the first
time it aborted because 1.01 was still running.  After I terminated 1.01,
the install of 1.02 went just fine.

Rocky


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com 
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gary Kjos
Sent: Tuesday, November 21, 2006 5:16 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Print report to file

Reinstall 101 maybe?  Maybe that one will work good enough?

On 11/21/06, John Bartow <john at winhaven.net> wrote:
> I've downloaded and installed PrintToPicture101.exe. 101 does work in XP
> but...
>
> I then downloaded and meant to install ptp102.zip (which is an upgrade to
> 101, both are by Gretchko.) The upgrade suggests you first remove the
> previous version. The unistall for 101 hangs and does nothing. The
> installation for 102 does nothing. I'm stuck in no man's land.
>
> Just a word of caution.



From accessd at shaw.ca  Wed Nov 22 05:57:28 2006
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Wed, 22 Nov 2006 03:57:28 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] Stored Procedure not producing results
In-Reply-To: <20061122011633.TNVW20709.fep02.xtra.co.nz@Dalyn.dalyn.co.nz>
Message-ID: <0J9400G9ARTCVFL2@l-daemon>

Hi David:

Just a further comment after conferring with a friend; it was noted that
each one of the statements, that were plused together require a complete
scan of their respective tables before they can be added.

The overhead must be immense. Try using the Rollup or Cube statements, which
are highly optimized and should give you a decent speed increase
(http://databases.about.com/od/sql/l/aacuberollup.htm)

It was also suggested that, if you have control over the database tables
designing and this report is needed on a regular bases, a single table
consolidating the flag fields would improve performance.

HTH
Jim       

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of David Emerson
Sent: Tuesday, November 21, 2006 5:17 PM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [AccessD] Stored Procedure not producing results

SQL 2000

I have the following query running in Query Analyser:

SELECT dbo.tblCustStatement.StatementID, dbo.tblCustomers.TradingName 
as CustName, dbo.tblCustStatement.StatementDate,
         dbo.tblCustomers.AccountNo, dbo.tblCustStatement.StatementNumber
FROM dbo.tblCustomers INNER JOIN dbo.tblCustICP ON 
dbo.tblCustomers.CustomerID = dbo.tblCustICP.CustIDNo
         INNER JOIN dbo.tblCustStatement ON 
dbo.tblCustomers.CustomerID = dbo.tblCustStatement.CustIDNo
         LEFT OUTER JOIN dbo.vwAgedDebtorReceipt ON 
dbo.tblCustStatement.CustIDNo = dbo.vwAgedDebtorReceipt.CustIDNo
         AND dbo.tblCustStatement.StatementNumber = 
dbo.vwAgedDebtorReceipt.StatNum
         LEFT OUTER JOIN dbo.vwAgedDebtorReceiptInv ON 
dbo.tblCustStatement.CustIDNo = dbo.vwAgedDebtorReceiptInv.CustIDNo
         AND dbo.tblCustStatement.StatementNumber = 
dbo.vwAgedDebtorReceiptInv.InvNum
WHERE
         -- Remming out this statement works (and removing the AND at 
the beginning of the next line)
         (dbo.tblCustStatement.StatementDate >= '2006-11-01' And 
dbo.tblCustStatement.StatementDate <= '2006-11-30')
         -- Remming out this statement works
         AND (dbo.tblCustomers.AccStatus= 'Active')
         AND (dbo.tblCustStatement.[CurrentMth]+ 
dbo.tblCustStatement.[OneMonth]+ 
dbo.tblCustStatement.[TwoMonths]+ 
dbo.tblCustStatement.[ThreeMonths] + 
ISNULL(dbo.vwAgedDebtorReceipt.NetReceipts,0) 
+            ISNULL(dbo.vwAgedDebtorReceipt.GJCredit,0)+ 
ISNULL(dbo.vwAgedDebtorReceiptInv.NetReceiptsInv,0) 
+               ISNULL(dbo.vwAgedDebtorReceiptInv.GJCreditInv,0) > 20)
         AND (dbo.tblCustomers.PayArrange = 0)
         AND (dbo.tblCustomers.NoOverdueNote = 0)
         -- Remming out this statement works
         AND (   CASE
                         WHEN 
ISNUMERIC(LEFT(dbo.tblCustomers.CreditStatus,2)) = 0 THEN '00'
                         ELSE LEFT(dbo.tblCustomers.CreditStatus,2)
                 END < CAST(DAY(GETDATE()) AS varchar(2)))
         AND (dbo.tblCustomers.CreditStatus NOT LIKE 'Last%' OR 
dbo.tblCustomers.CreditStatus IS NULL)
         -- Remming out this statement works
         AND (dbo.tblCustStatement.StatementNumber <> 1)
ORDER BY CustName, dbo.tblCustomers.AccountNo, 
dbo.tblCustStatement.StatementDate

When I remark out any 1 of the AND statements noted above in the 
WHERE clause the results come back in a couple of seconds.
However, when I include all AND statement the query runs doesn't 
return any results (at least not within the first ten minutes!)

There doesn't seem to be any pattern to the lines that can be remmed 
or combinations of remaining lines.  The only clue I have is that 
data from the database from two months ago works fine but there are 
750 more records in each table being filtered.

Any suggestions as to how I can solve this - it seems to be a data 
issue but the various combinations of AND statements above doesn't make
sense.


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From artful at rogers.com  Wed Nov 22 06:14:50 2006
From: artful at rogers.com (artful at rogers.com)
Date: Wed, 22 Nov 2006 04:14:50 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [AccessD] Stored Procedure not producing results
Message-ID: <20061122121451.37330.qmail@web88207.mail.re2.yahoo.com>

Right on. That's why I suggested the default GetDate(). 

There is a whole other subject on this, about which I have written, but I googled it and it didn't come up, so perhaps I wrote it and forgot to sell it to somebody.  The gist is this: it's called PITA, which doesn't mean pain in the arse, but rather Point In Time Architecture. Without PITA, the central problem with relational databases is that they don't provide an instant "roll back to August 1" capability. With PITA, they do. It's not all that complicated, but it does require a detailed walk-through so you can understand all the implications, the most critical of which is, "Nothing is ever updated. An updated row is actually replaced, and the updated row's EndDate column is updated to reflect the datetime on which the row was "changed". Thus it becomes possible to issue a query that reflects the state of the database on August 1, 2005. Obviously this increases the size of the db significantly, but in certain environments (such as medical), this is critical -- who was
 JWC's physician on that date, and what tests were performed, and by which medicos, and so on.

So. Today's job is to dig out that PITA article and pitch it to somebody. 

Arthur

----- Original Message ----
From: JWColby <jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com>
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Wednesday, November 22, 2006 6:16:35 AM
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Stored Procedure not producing results

>This assumes of course that the scope is expandable so easily. (A good
reason to have a "DateEntered" column in every table, which defaults to
GetDate()). 

Amen!  I do that regularly now.  It juts makes managing data so much easier
when you can see when it was entered.  I actually use the date + time so
that I can see things like how long an append query takes to run (time of
last entry in the "batch minus time of first entry in the "batch").


John W. Colby
Colby Consulting
www.ColbyConsulting.com

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of artful at rogers.com
Sent: Wednesday, November 22, 2006 6:08 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Stored Procedure not producing results

If the structures haven't changed, then the data is the villain. But you
have a concrete clue to work from. Devise some scope that will include only
the data from two months ago and verify your assertion. Then expand the
scope to "two months ago plus a day" and run it again. Repeat until failure.

This assumes of course that the scope is expandable so easily. (A good
reason to have a "DateEntered" column in every table, which defaults to
GetDate()). 

----- Original Message ----
From: David Emerson <newsgrps at dalyn.co.nz>
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>; Access Developers discussion and problem
solving <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Tuesday, November 21, 2006 10:53:58 PM
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Stored Procedure not producing results

Worse - my database from two months ago works fine, but the latest version
is the one that is causing the problem.  This may indicate a data problem
perhaps?

David




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From shamil at users.mns.ru  Wed Nov 22 07:27:43 2006
From: shamil at users.mns.ru (Shamil Salakhetdinov)
Date: Wed, 22 Nov 2006 16:27:43 +0300
Subject: [AccessD] Stored Procedure not producing results
In-Reply-To: <20061122121451.37330.qmail@web88207.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <000601c70e3a$00281f70$6401a8c0@nant>


<<<
So. Today's job is to dig out that PITA article and pitch it to somebody.
>>>
Arthur,

I must say I did "muse" on similar to your PITA ("Point in Time
Architecture") subject somewhere in year 1992 or 1993, that time in FIDO
groups and in Russian...

Am I wrong - wasn't that feature of versioned database data somehow limited
but built-in way implemented in Borland Interbase?

And in MS SQL Server it can be relatively inexpensive way
implemented/simulated using triggers - correct?

--
Shamil
 
-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of artful at rogers.com
Sent: Wednesday, November 22, 2006 3:15 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Stored Procedure not producing results

Right on. That's why I suggested the default GetDate(). 

There is a whole other subject on this, about which I have written, but I
googled it and it didn't come up, so perhaps I wrote it and forgot to sell
it to somebody.  The gist is this: it's called PITA, which doesn't mean pain
in the arse, but rather Point In Time Architecture. Without PITA, the
central problem with relational databases is that they don't provide an
instant "roll back to August 1" capability. With PITA, they do. It's not all
that complicated, but it does require a detailed walk-through so you can
understand all the implications, the most critical of which is, "Nothing is
ever updated. An updated row is actually replaced, and the updated row's
EndDate column is updated to reflect the datetime on which the row was
"changed". Thus it becomes possible to issue a query that reflects the state
of the database on August 1, 2005. Obviously this increases the size of the
db significantly, but in certain environments (such as medical), this is
critical -- who was
 JWC's physician on that date, and what tests were performed, and by which
medicos, and so on.

So. Today's job is to dig out that PITA article and pitch it to somebody. 

Arthur


<<< tail skipped >>>



From Gustav at cactus.dk  Wed Nov 22 07:41:01 2006
From: Gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Wed, 22 Nov 2006 14:41:01 +0100
Subject: [AccessD] Temporal database (was: Stored Procedure not
	producing	results)
Message-ID: <s5646196.088@cactus.dk>

Hi Arthur

I don't recall you have written about PITA here, but what you describe
is generally known as a temporal database.
This is well-known and has been dealt with by some great capacities in
the database world, Michael Boehlen, Christian Jensen, Richard Snodgrass
and Andreas Steiner.

http://www.cs.arizona.edu/people/rts/timecenter/timecenter.html 

A brief explanation and introduction can be found here:

http://www.timeconsult.com/TemporalData/TemporalData.html 

Note the link to TimeDB, a Java implementing of "A Bitemporal
Relational DBMS" for Oracle 10g

Also, look up my previous post(ings) on these:

http://databaseadvisors.com/pipermail/accessd/2005-May/034503.html 
http://databaseadvisors.com/pipermail/accessd/2005-May/034455.html 

This is a very exciting area. For some applications it won't even
require that much more data storage (accounting). 
A simplified approach is a write-only database (which means write and
read but neither delete nor update) which both Cach? and MySQL offers.

Now, wouldn't it be nice if only TSQL2 could be implemented in Access:

http://www.cs.arizona.edu/people/rts/tsql2.html 

/gustav


>>> artful at rogers.com 22-11-2006 13:14:50 >>>
Right on. That's why I suggested the default GetDate(). 

There is a whole other subject on this, about which I have written, but
I googled it and it didn't come up, so perhaps I wrote it and forgot to
sell it to somebody.  The gist is this: it's called PITA, which doesn't
mean pain in the arse, but rather Point In Time Architecture. Without
PITA, the central problem with relational databases is that they don't
provide an instant "roll back to August 1" capability. With PITA, they
do. It's not all that complicated, but it does require a detailed
walk-through so you can understand all the implications, the most
critical of which is, "Nothing is ever updated. An updated row is
actually replaced, and the updated row's EndDate column is updated to
reflect the datetime on which the row was "changed". Thus it becomes
possible to issue a query that reflects the state of the database on
August 1, 2005. Obviously this increases the size of the db
significantly, but in certain environments (such as medical), this is
critical -- who was
 JWC's physician on that date, and what tests were performed, and by
which medicos, and so on.

So. Today's job is to dig out that PITA article and pitch it to
somebody. 

Arthur


From artful at rogers.com  Wed Nov 22 08:03:13 2006
From: artful at rogers.com (artful at rogers.com)
Date: Wed, 22 Nov 2006 06:03:13 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [AccessD] Stored Procedure not producing results
Message-ID: <20061122140314.81269.qmail@web88214.mail.re2.yahoo.com>

I have no way to verify whether you mused on this subject or not, but since you asked, I will provide a thumbnail sketch:

0. You could do it with triggers, but that would not be my first choice.
1. every table will contain two columns called BeginDate and EndDate.
2. any inserted row will have a NOT NULL value in BeginDate, not necessarily equivalent to today (otherwise you couldn't insert a row that takes effect on January 1, 2007).
3. any row  without an EndDate is assumed to be effective now.
4. any update to an existing row copies its data to a new row, fills in the EndDate column on the existing row with GetDate(), and supplies GetDate() as the BeginDate on the new row.
5. Any "deleted" row is not actually deleted. Rather, it is preserved, but its EndDate column is updpated to GetDate().

That's a quick thumbnail sketch of PITA. I may have left out a quirk or two in the sketch, but that's the basic idea. Nothing is destroyed. Everything is kept, and its time-span is demarcated by its BeginDate and EndDate columns. 

Taking a practical example, I just switched doctors yesterday. This involves several operations.

1. The "family physician" has changed, but do not destroy the previous data. Therefore insert a new row whose BeginDate is yesterday, and update the previous row, changing its EndDate to yesterday.
2. Agree that all previous medical data concerning me shall be forwarded to the new physician. (Called Consent, in the medical lingo.)
3. Step two can be further refined, as in "release data about conditions x, y and z, but not t, u and v" to my new physician.

At the end of the day, for various important reasons, not the least of which is litigation, we must be able to determine the state of your particular record(s) in the database as of January 1, 2004. Who was your physician? What rights did she have to your prior data? What tests were performed upon you, and on what dates, and with what results and with what follow-ups?

I chose this example a) because I have been there and written that, and b) because it illustrates the problem vividly. We could easily substitute lawyers for the physicians, or dentists, or any professional, including ourselves, software developers. Consider a project as a metaphorical person in the above. In 2001, the practitioner list comprised Fuller, Colby and Salakhetdinov. In 2002, it comprised Hindman, Carbonell, Colby and Lawrence. In the medical schema, one could easily have several practitioners, one for heart, one for ENT (ear, nose, throat), one for gynecology, etc. And the same holds true for a software client -- she employs an accounting expert, a CRM expert, an Excel macro wizard, an Access expert, and so on.

That was a bit of a sidetrack, but remains on point, I think. The point being, "We need to be able to roll back the database to any given PIT without actually having to do a restore. We just want to specify a date (Jan 1 2004) and without changing a single line of code, run the reports.

That is the point of PITA.

It must be designed in from the outset. Not every app needs PITA, but it becomes very difficult to add it after the fact. As anyone who has followed my threads must know by now, I tend toward extremism. That said, I suggest that you design PITA in, just in case it later becomes needed. In that case, you look like a genius. And if the requirement never emerges, you wasted some very cheap disk space. 

Arthur
 ----- Original Message ----
From: Shamil Salakhetdinov <shamil at users.mns.ru>
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Wednesday, November 22, 2006 8:27:43 AM
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Stored Procedure not producing results


<<<
So. Today's job is to dig out that PITA article and pitch it to somebody.
>>>
Arthur,

I must say I did "muse" on similar to your PITA ("Point in Time
Architecture") subject somewhere in year 1992 or 1993, that time in FIDO
groups and in Russian...

Am I wrong - wasn't that feature of versioned database data somehow limited
but built-in way implemented in Borland Interbase?

And in MS SQL Server it can be relatively inexpensive way
implemented/simulated using triggers - correct?

--
Shamil
 





From artful at rogers.com  Wed Nov 22 08:10:35 2006
From: artful at rogers.com (artful at rogers.com)
Date: Wed, 22 Nov 2006 06:10:35 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [AccessD] Temporal database (was: Stored Procedure not
	producing results)
Message-ID: <20061122141035.57453.qmail@web88213.mail.re2.yahoo.com>

My personal fave in this category is the Kimball Group. Specifically, for MS SQL, I recommend "The Microsoft Data Warehouse Toolkit" by Joy Mundy and Warren Thornthwaite. There is extensive discussion therein about SCDs (slowly changing dimensions).

I will check out your sources, too.

A.

----- Original Message ----
From: Gustav Brock <Gustav at cactus.dk>
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Sent: Wednesday, November 22, 2006 8:41:01 AM
Subject: [AccessD] Temporal database (was: Stored Procedure not producing results)

Hi Arthur

I don't recall you have written about PITA here, but what you describe
is generally known as a temporal database.
This is well-known and has been dealt with by some great capacities in
the database world, Michael Boehlen, Christian Jensen, Richard Snodgrass
and Andreas Steiner.

http://www.cs.arizona.edu/people/rts/timecenter/timecenter.html 

A brief explanation and introduction can be found here:

http://www.timeconsult.com/TemporalData/TemporalData.html 

Note the link to TimeDB, a Java implementing of "A Bitemporal
Relational DBMS" for Oracle 10g

Also, look up my previous post(ings) on these:

http://databaseadvisors.com/pipermail/accessd/2005-May/034503.html 
http://databaseadvisors.com/pipermail/accessd/2005-May/034455.html 

This is a very exciting area. For some applications it won't even
require that much more data storage (accounting). 
A simplified approach is a write-only database (which means write and
read but neither delete nor update) which both Cach? and MySQL offers.

Now, wouldn't it be nice if only TSQL2 could be implemented in Access:

http://www.cs.arizona.edu/people/rts/tsql2.html 

/gustav






From adtp at airtelbroadband.in  Wed Nov 22 08:42:07 2006
From: adtp at airtelbroadband.in (A.D.TEJPAL)
Date: Wed, 22 Nov 2006 20:12:07 +0530
Subject: [AccessD] Excel Import
References: <s562f104.064@cactus.dk>
Message-ID: <012601c70e44$6eef73e0$9f0b65cb@pcadt>

    Updating of data in Access db via import or link from Excel workbook, based upon dynamic named range is demonstrated in my sample db named ExcelToAccess, available at Rogers Access Library (other developers library). Link - http://www.rogersaccesslibrary.com/OtherLibraries.asp#Tejpal,A.D.
 
    The process is driven from excel end. Data blocks can be located anywhere on any of the worksheets. Progressive data transfers, involving more than one sheet (a sheet at a time), can be carried out as required.

    Two alternative styles are covered:
    (a) Select top left column heading of data block and execute.
    (b) No need to select any cell. Data block on active sheet will get transferred.
 
A.D.Tejpal
---------------

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Gustav Brock 
  To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com 
  Sent: Tuesday, November 21, 2006 16:58
  Subject: Re: [AccessD] Excel Import


  Hi Don

  Perhaps this about Dynamic Named Ranges:

  http://databaseadvisors.com/pipermail/accessd/2006-March/042838.html 

  Unfortunately, exactly such a range can _not_ be used as the source when linking or importing.

  /gustav

  >>> Donald.A.McGillivray at sprint.com 21-11-2006 00:31:00 >>>
  True, but the inserted rows need to be ABOVE the last row in the existing range in order for this to work, no?  Not such a big deal if you're adding a row or two, but when adding large blocks of data, it can be a pain to insert exactly (or slightly more than) the number or rows you want before adding the data.  You definitely don't want to insert fewer than you will need.

  I seem to remember somebody (Gustav?) posting some code a few months back that managed the dynamic expansion of a named range in Excel.  Don't remember how it worked, or anything else about it, but it looked like a useful thing for situations like this.  Does that ring a bell with anybody else?

  Don

From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com  Wed Nov 22 08:49:02 2006
From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (JWColby)
Date: Wed, 22 Nov 2006 09:49:02 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Stored Procedure not producing results
In-Reply-To: <20061122140314.81269.qmail@web88214.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <002401c70e45$5bf120d0$647aa8c0@m6805>

Yes, but there has to be a limit somewhere.  Suppose the physician moved.
Do I care what his old address was.  It is the same physician.  Suppose he
gets a new phone number, fax number, etc.  I can see where in some cases you
would want to preserve every piece of data in particular tables, but in
EVERY table?

And in your "family doctor" example, why not simply create a doctor table,
then a FamilyDoctor table that relates family to doctor.  The FamilyDoctor
table has a begin / end date.  New doctor, new entry in the FamilyDoctor
table.  The old FamilyDoctor entry remains and provides the history of who
the family doctor was at any given date.  The m-m FamilyDoctor table is just
two pointers (family and doctor) and a begin / end date.  MUCH simpler than
preserving the entire doctor record whenever any tiny piece of that doctor
record changed, not to mention updating a pointer to that doctor record in
every family's record when some trivial piece of doctor info changes.

Again, I am not arguing with the concept, simply the scope of application of
the concept.

So IF you agree that you limit the scope to specific tables, how do you
determine and automatically apply the concept to specific tables, and not to
others?

John W. Colby
Colby Consulting
www.ColbyConsulting.com

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of artful at rogers.com
Sent: Wednesday, November 22, 2006 9:03 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Stored Procedure not producing results

I have no way to verify whether you mused on this subject or not, but since
you asked, I will provide a thumbnail sketch:

0. You could do it with triggers, but that would not be my first choice.
1. every table will contain two columns called BeginDate and EndDate.
2. any inserted row will have a NOT NULL value in BeginDate, not necessarily
equivalent to today (otherwise you couldn't insert a row that takes effect
on January 1, 2007).
3. any row  without an EndDate is assumed to be effective now.
4. any update to an existing row copies its data to a new row, fills in the
EndDate column on the existing row with GetDate(), and supplies GetDate() as
the BeginDate on the new row.
5. Any "deleted" row is not actually deleted. Rather, it is preserved, but
its EndDate column is updpated to GetDate().

That's a quick thumbnail sketch of PITA. I may have left out a quirk or two
in the sketch, but that's the basic idea. Nothing is destroyed. Everything
is kept, and its time-span is demarcated by its BeginDate and EndDate
columns. 

Taking a practical example, I just switched doctors yesterday. This involves
several operations.

1. The "family physician" has changed, but do not destroy the previous data.
Therefore insert a new row whose BeginDate is yesterday, and update the
previous row, changing its EndDate to yesterday.
2. Agree that all previous medical data concerning me shall be forwarded to
the new physician. (Called Consent, in the medical lingo.) 3. Step two can
be further refined, as in "release data about conditions x, y and z, but not
t, u and v" to my new physician.

At the end of the day, for various important reasons, not the least of which
is litigation, we must be able to determine the state of your particular
record(s) in the database as of January 1, 2004. Who was your physician?
What rights did she have to your prior data? What tests were performed upon
you, and on what dates, and with what results and with what follow-ups?

I chose this example a) because I have been there and written that, and b)
because it illustrates the problem vividly. We could easily substitute
lawyers for the physicians, or dentists, or any professional, including
ourselves, software developers. Consider a project as a metaphorical person
in the above. In 2001, the practitioner list comprised Fuller, Colby and
Salakhetdinov. In 2002, it comprised Hindman, Carbonell, Colby and Lawrence.
In the medical schema, one could easily have several practitioners, one for
heart, one for ENT (ear, nose, throat), one for gynecology, etc. And the
same holds true for a software client -- she employs an accounting expert, a
CRM expert, an Excel macro wizard, an Access expert, and so on.

That was a bit of a sidetrack, but remains on point, I think. The point
being, "We need to be able to roll back the database to any given PIT
without actually having to do a restore. We just want to specify a date (Jan
1 2004) and without changing a single line of code, run the reports.

That is the point of PITA.

It must be designed in from the outset. Not every app needs PITA, but it
becomes very difficult to add it after the fact. As anyone who has followed
my threads must know by now, I tend toward extremism. That said, I suggest
that you design PITA in, just in case it later becomes needed. In that case,
you look like a genius. And if the requirement never emerges, you wasted
some very cheap disk space. 

Arthur
 ----- Original Message ----
From: Shamil Salakhetdinov <shamil at users.mns.ru>
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Wednesday, November 22, 2006 8:27:43 AM
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Stored Procedure not producing results


<<<
So. Today's job is to dig out that PITA article and pitch it to somebody.
>>>
Arthur,

I must say I did "muse" on similar to your PITA ("Point in Time
Architecture") subject somewhere in year 1992 or 1993, that time in FIDO
groups and in Russian...

Am I wrong - wasn't that feature of versioned database data somehow limited
but built-in way implemented in Borland Interbase?

And in MS SQL Server it can be relatively inexpensive way
implemented/simulated using triggers - correct?

--
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From shamil at users.mns.ru  Wed Nov 22 08:49:33 2006
From: shamil at users.mns.ru (Shamil Salakhetdinov)
Date: Wed, 22 Nov 2006 17:49:33 +0300
Subject: [AccessD] Stored Procedure not producing results
In-Reply-To: <20061122140314.81269.qmail@web88214.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <003b01c70e45$6c84e710$6401a8c0@nant>

<<<
As anyone who has followed my threads must
know by now, I tend toward extremism.
>>>
That's so true Arthur! :) (Just kidding of course)

<<<
That said, I suggest that you design PITA in,
just in case it later becomes needed.
>>>
Arthur, these days I'm "biased" toward simple designs and MS SQL triggers
and a parallel OLAP database could be such relatively simple extendable
(plugged/unplugged anytime) solution. I mean I'd just use such triggers to
"replicate" deleted/inserted/updated rows into parallel OLAP database with
tables' structure as you describe i.e. with BeginData and EndDate added.
(And I'd do that only for the tables' customers wanted to have your PITA
enabled with.)
Then all PITA enabled forms/reports/SPs/... will use this parallel OLAP
database together with actual OLTP one if needed...

Do I miss some more effective solutions of this practical task? As you wrote
harddisk memory is cheap these days - I agree with that of course - that's
also a point, which makes rather simple solution with "parallel versioned
data OLAP database" inexpensive...

<<<
"We need to be able to roll back the database to any given PIT without
actually having to do a restore. We just want to specify a date (Jan 1 2004)
and without changing a single line of code, run the reports.
>>> 
You mean "virtual rollback" of course? IOW a "point in time aware"
view/SP/UDF?
 
--
Shamil
 
-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of artful at rogers.com
Sent: Wednesday, November 22, 2006 5:03 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Stored Procedure not producing results

I have no way to verify whether you mused on this subject or not, but since
you asked, I will provide a thumbnail sketch:

0. You could do it with triggers, but that would not be my first choice.
1. every table will contain two columns called BeginDate and EndDate.
2. any inserted row will have a NOT NULL value in BeginDate, not necessarily
equivalent to today (otherwise you couldn't insert a row that takes effect
on January 1, 2007).
3. any row  without an EndDate is assumed to be effective now.
4. any update to an existing row copies its data to a new row, fills in the
EndDate column on the existing row with GetDate(), and supplies GetDate() as
the BeginDate on the new row.
5. Any "deleted" row is not actually deleted. Rather, it is preserved, but
its EndDate column is updpated to GetDate().

That's a quick thumbnail sketch of PITA. I may have left out a quirk or two
in the sketch, but that's the basic idea. Nothing is destroyed. Everything
is kept, and its time-span is demarcated by its BeginDate and EndDate
columns. 

Taking a practical example, I just switched doctors yesterday. This involves
several operations.

1. The "family physician" has changed, but do not destroy the previous data.
Therefore insert a new row whose BeginDate is yesterday, and update the
previous row, changing its EndDate to yesterday.
2. Agree that all previous medical data concerning me shall be forwarded to
the new physician. (Called Consent, in the medical lingo.)
3. Step two can be further refined, as in "release data about conditions x,
y and z, but not t, u and v" to my new physician.

At the end of the day, for various important reasons, not the least of which
is litigation, we must be able to determine the state of your particular
record(s) in the database as of January 1, 2004. Who was your physician?
What rights did she have to your prior data? What tests were performed upon
you, and on what dates, and with what results and with what follow-ups?

I chose this example a) because I have been there and written that, and b)
because it illustrates the problem vividly. We could easily substitute
lawyers for the physicians, or dentists, or any professional, including
ourselves, software developers. Consider a project as a metaphorical person
in the above. In 2001, the practitioner list comprised Fuller, Colby and
Salakhetdinov. In 2002, it comprised Hindman, Carbonell, Colby and Lawrence.
In the medical schema, one could easily have several practitioners, one for
heart, one for ENT (ear, nose, throat), one for gynecology, etc. And the
same holds true for a software client -- she employs an accounting expert, a
CRM expert, an Excel macro wizard, an Access expert, and so on.

That was a bit of a sidetrack, but remains on point, I think. The point
being, "We need to be able to roll back the database to any given PIT
without actually having to do a restore. We just want to specify a date (Jan
1 2004) and without changing a single line of code, run the reports.

That is the point of PITA.

It must be designed in from the outset. Not every app needs PITA, but it
becomes very difficult to add it after the fact. As anyone who has followed
my threads must know by now, I tend toward extremism. That said, I suggest
that you design PITA in, just in case it later becomes needed. In that case,
you look like a genius. And if the requirement never emerges, you wasted
some very cheap disk space. 

Arthur

<<< tail skipped>>>



From artful at rogers.com  Wed Nov 22 09:14:18 2006
From: artful at rogers.com (artful at rogers.com)
Date: Wed, 22 Nov 2006 07:14:18 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [AccessD] Stored Procedure not producing results
Message-ID: <20061122151418.26001.qmail@web88206.mail.re2.yahoo.com>

It seems that you missed the point, JWC. In a PITA setup, nothing is ever destroyed or overwritten. Thus I can roll back the database (metaphorically) and discover that on January 11, 2004 Dr. JWC had his office at 123 Main Street, but on February 1st of the same year, he moved his offices to 234 Side Street. On the former date, Dr. JWC had x clients, and on the latter date he had y clients.

That is the whole point of PITA.

You do not apply the concept to some tables and not others, in general. The distinction lies on QCDs (quickly changing dimensions) versus SCDs (slowly changing dimensions). To be safe, you apply the "do not destroy anything" to all tables in the database. For example, Yugloslavia and the former USSR became several countries recently. But we need to be able to look up JWC as of September, 1990 and see the data as it existed then. At that time, Sarajevo was in Yugoslavia. Now it is not. I still need to preserve your 1990 address.

Arthur

----- Original Message ----
From: JWColby <jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com>
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Wednesday, November 22, 2006 9:49:02 AM
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Stored Procedure not producing results

Yes, but there has to be a limit somewhere.  Suppose the physician moved.
Do I care what his old address was.  It is the same physician.  Suppose he
gets a new phone number, fax number, etc.  I can see where in some cases you
would want to preserve every piece of data in particular tables, but in
EVERY table?

And in your "family doctor" example, why not simply create a doctor table,
then a FamilyDoctor table that relates family to doctor.  The FamilyDoctor
table has a begin / end date.  New doctor, new entry in the FamilyDoctor
table.  The old FamilyDoctor entry remains and provides the history of who
the family doctor was at any given date.  The m-m FamilyDoctor table is just
two pointers (family and doctor) and a begin / end date.  MUCH simpler than
preserving the entire doctor record whenever any tiny piece of that doctor
record changed, not to mention updating a pointer to that doctor record in
every family's record when some trivial piece of doctor info changes.

Again, I am not arguing with the concept, simply the scope of application of
the concept.

So IF you agree that you limit the scope to specific tables, how do you
determine and automatically apply the concept to specific tables, and not to
others?

John W. Colby
Colby Consulting
www.ColbyConsulting.com

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of artful at rogers.com
Sent: Wednesday, November 22, 2006 9:03 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Stored Procedure not producing results

I have no way to verify whether you mused on this subject or not, but since
you asked, I will provide a thumbnail sketch:

0. You could do it with triggers, but that would not be my first choice.
1. every table will contain two columns called BeginDate and EndDate.
2. any inserted row will have a NOT NULL value in BeginDate, not necessarily
equivalent to today (otherwise you couldn't insert a row that takes effect
on January 1, 2007).
3. any row  without an EndDate is assumed to be effective now.
4. any update to an existing row copies its data to a new row, fills in the
EndDate column on the existing row with GetDate(), and supplies GetDate() as
the BeginDate on the new row.
5. Any "deleted" row is not actually deleted. Rather, it is preserved, but
its EndDate column is updpated to GetDate().

That's a quick thumbnail sketch of PITA. I may have left out a quirk or two
in the sketch, but that's the basic idea. Nothing is destroyed. Everything
is kept, and its time-span is demarcated by its BeginDate and EndDate
columns. 

Taking a practical example, I just switched doctors yesterday. This involves
several operations.

1. The "family physician" has changed, but do not destroy the previous data.
Therefore insert a new row whose BeginDate is yesterday, and update the
previous row, changing its EndDate to yesterday.
2. Agree that all previous medical data concerning me shall be forwarded to
the new physician. (Called Consent, in the medical lingo.) 3. Step two can
be further refined, as in "release data about conditions x, y and z, but not
t, u and v" to my new physician.

At the end of the day, for various important reasons, not the least of which
is litigation, we must be able to determine the state of your particular
record(s) in the database as of January 1, 2004. Who was your physician?
What rights did she have to your prior data? What tests were performed upon
you, and on what dates, and with what results and with what follow-ups?

I chose this example a) because I have been there and written that, and b)
because it illustrates the problem vividly. We could easily substitute
lawyers for the physicians, or dentists, or any professional, including
ourselves, software developers. Consider a project as a metaphorical person
in the above. In 2001, the practitioner list comprised Fuller, Colby and
Salakhetdinov. In 2002, it comprised Hindman, Carbonell, Colby and Lawrence.
In the medical schema, one could easily have several practitioners, one for
heart, one for ENT (ear, nose, throat), one for gynecology, etc. And the
same holds true for a software client -- she employs an accounting expert, a
CRM expert, an Excel macro wizard, an Access expert, and so on.

That was a bit of a sidetrack, but remains on point, I think. The point
being, "We need to be able to roll back the database to any given PIT
without actually having to do a restore. We just want to specify a date (Jan
1 2004) and without changing a single line of code, run the reports.

That is the point of PITA.

It must be designed in from the outset. Not every app needs PITA, but it
becomes very difficult to add it after the fact. As anyone who has followed
my threads must know by now, I tend toward extremism. That said, I suggest
that you design PITA in, just in case it later becomes needed. In that case,
you look like a genius. And if the requirement never emerges, you wasted
some very cheap disk space. 

Arthur
 ----- Original Message ----
From: Shamil Salakhetdinov <shamil at users.mns.ru>
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Wednesday, November 22, 2006 8:27:43 AM
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Stored Procedure not producing results


<<<
So. Today's job is to dig out that PITA article and pitch it to somebody.
>>>
Arthur,

I must say I did "muse" on similar to your PITA ("Point in Time
Architecture") subject somewhere in year 1992 or 1993, that time in FIDO
groups and in Russian...

Am I wrong - wasn't that feature of versioned database data somehow limited
but built-in way implemented in Borland Interbase?

And in MS SQL Server it can be relatively inexpensive way
implemented/simulated using triggers - correct?

--
Shamil
 



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From Kwilliamson at RTKL.com  Wed Nov 22 09:18:40 2006
From: Kwilliamson at RTKL.com (Keith Williamson)
Date: Wed, 22 Nov 2006 10:18:40 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Excel Import
Message-ID: <B7450F806572FD4AA30B664E5FE127FB125A6D@sherman.rtkl.rtkl.net>

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21231-3305

410-537-6098 direct | 410-276-2136 fax | www.rtkl.com

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of A.D.TEJPAL
Sent: Wednesday, November 22, 2006 9:42 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Excel Import

    Updating of data in Access db via import or link from Excel
workbook, based upon dynamic named range is demonstrated in my sample db
named ExcelToAccess, available at Rogers Access Library (other
developers library). Link -
http://www.rogersaccesslibrary.com/OtherLibraries.asp#Tejpal,A.D.
 
    The process is driven from excel end. Data blocks can be located
anywhere on any of the worksheets. Progressive data transfers, involving
more than one sheet (a sheet at a time), can be carried out as required.

    Two alternative styles are covered:
    (a) Select top left column heading of data block and execute.
    (b) No need to select any cell. Data block on active sheet will get
transferred.
 
A.D.Tejpal
---------------

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Gustav Brock 
  To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com 
  Sent: Tuesday, November 21, 2006 16:58
  Subject: Re: [AccessD] Excel Import


  Hi Don

  Perhaps this about Dynamic Named Ranges:

  http://databaseadvisors.com/pipermail/accessd/2006-March/042838.html 

  Unfortunately, exactly such a range can _not_ be used as the source
when linking or importing.

  /gustav

  >>> Donald.A.McGillivray at sprint.com 21-11-2006 00:31:00 >>>
  True, but the inserted rows need to be ABOVE the last row in the
existing range in order for this to work, no?  Not such a big deal if
you're adding a row or two, but when adding large blocks of data, it can
be a pain to insert exactly (or slightly more than) the number or rows
you want before adding the data.  You definitely don't want to insert
fewer than you will need.

  I seem to remember somebody (Gustav?) posting some code a few months
back that managed the dynamic expansion of a named range in Excel.
Don't remember how it worked, or anything else about it, but it looked
like a useful thing for situations like this.  Does that ring a bell
with anybody else?

  Don
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From artful at rogers.com  Wed Nov 22 09:18:44 2006
From: artful at rogers.com (artful at rogers.com)
Date: Wed, 22 Nov 2006 07:18:44 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [AccessD] Stored Procedure not producing results
Message-ID: <20061122151845.63792.qmail@web88209.mail.re2.yahoo.com>

I agree with you on the usefulness of triggers, but there are problems (surmountable). Consider a database (or collection of databases) whose size grows by a TB per year. This is going to be a huge problem, literally. Chances are that you won't be able to support the OLTP and OLAP instances on a single server, unless you have a SAN and very fancy hardware. This is going to cause RI problems (on MS-SQL at least; Oracle has table-spaces and can easily work around this issue), and also trigger complexities (fire a trigger on instance X and have it do something to instance Y which resides on another server in another city). It can be done, but it is non-trivial.

And I am "extremely" flattered that you noticed. 

----- Original Message ----
From: Shamil Salakhetdinov <shamil at users.mns.ru>
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Wednesday, November 22, 2006 9:49:33 AM
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Stored Procedure not producing results

<<<
As anyone who has followed my threads must
know by now, I tend toward extremism.
>>>
That's so true Arthur! :) (Just kidding of course)

<<<
That said, I suggest that you design PITA in,
just in case it later becomes needed.
>>>
Arthur, these days I'm "biased" toward simple designs and MS SQL triggers
and a parallel OLAP database could be such relatively simple extendable
(plugged/unplugged anytime) solution. I mean I'd just use such triggers to
"replicate" deleted/inserted/updated rows into parallel OLAP database with
tables' structure as you describe i.e. with BeginData and EndDate added.
(And I'd do that only for the tables' customers wanted to have your PITA
enabled with.)
Then all PITA enabled forms/reports/SPs/... will use this parallel OLAP
database together with actual OLTP one if needed...

Do I miss some more effective solutions of this practical task? As you wrote
harddisk memory is cheap these days - I agree with that of course - that's
also a point, which makes rather simple solution with "parallel versioned
data OLAP database" inexpensive...

<<<
"We need to be able to roll back the database to any given PIT without
actually having to do a restore. We just want to specify a date (Jan 1 2004)
and without changing a single line of code, run the reports.
>>> 
You mean "virtual rollback" of course? IOW a "point in time aware"
view/SP/UDF?
 
--
Shamil
 
-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of artful at rogers.com
Sent: Wednesday, November 22, 2006 5:03 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Stored Procedure not producing results

I have no way to verify whether you mused on this subject or not, but since
you asked, I will provide a thumbnail sketch:

0. You could do it with triggers, but that would not be my first choice.
1. every table will contain two columns called BeginDate and EndDate.
2. any inserted row will have a NOT NULL value in BeginDate, not necessarily
equivalent to today (otherwise you couldn't insert a row that takes effect
on January 1, 2007).
3. any row  without an EndDate is assumed to be effective now.
4. any update to an existing row copies its data to a new row, fills in the
EndDate column on the existing row with GetDate(), and supplies GetDate() as
the BeginDate on the new row.
5. Any "deleted" row is not actually deleted. Rather, it is preserved, but
its EndDate column is updpated to GetDate().

That's a quick thumbnail sketch of PITA. I may have left out a quirk or two
in the sketch, but that's the basic idea. Nothing is destroyed. Everything
is kept, and its time-span is demarcated by its BeginDate and EndDate
columns. 

Taking a practical example, I just switched doctors yesterday. This involves
several operations.

1. The "family physician" has changed, but do not destroy the previous data.
Therefore insert a new row whose BeginDate is yesterday, and update the
previous row, changing its EndDate to yesterday.
2. Agree that all previous medical data concerning me shall be forwarded to
the new physician. (Called Consent, in the medical lingo.)
3. Step two can be further refined, as in "release data about conditions x,
y and z, but not t, u and v" to my new physician.

At the end of the day, for various important reasons, not the least of which
is litigation, we must be able to determine the state of your particular
record(s) in the database as of January 1, 2004. Who was your physician?
What rights did she have to your prior data? What tests were performed upon
you, and on what dates, and with what results and with what follow-ups?

I chose this example a) because I have been there and written that, and b)
because it illustrates the problem vividly. We could easily substitute
lawyers for the physicians, or dentists, or any professional, including
ourselves, software developers. Consider a project as a metaphorical person
in the above. In 2001, the practitioner list comprised Fuller, Colby and
Salakhetdinov. In 2002, it comprised Hindman, Carbonell, Colby and Lawrence.
In the medical schema, one could easily have several practitioners, one for
heart, one for ENT (ear, nose, throat), one for gynecology, etc. And the
same holds true for a software client -- she employs an accounting expert, a
CRM expert, an Excel macro wizard, an Access expert, and so on.

That was a bit of a sidetrack, but remains on point, I think. The point
being, "We need to be able to roll back the database to any given PIT
without actually having to do a restore. We just want to specify a date (Jan
1 2004) and without changing a single line of code, run the reports.

That is the point of PITA.

It must be designed in from the outset. Not every app needs PITA, but it
becomes very difficult to add it after the fact. As anyone who has followed
my threads must know by now, I tend toward extremism. That said, I suggest
that you design PITA in, just in case it later becomes needed. In that case,
you look like a genius. And if the requirement never emerges, you wasted
some very cheap disk space. 

Arthur

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From Gustav at cactus.dk  Wed Nov 22 09:45:32 2006
From: Gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Wed, 22 Nov 2006 16:45:32 +0100
Subject: [AccessD] Temporal database (was: Stored Procedure
	not	producing results)
Message-ID: <s5647ec1.089@cactus.dk>

Hi Arthur and Shamil

"We need to be able to roll back the database to any given PIT without
actually having to do a restore. We just want to specify a date (Jan 1
2004) and without changing a single line of code, run the reports."
>>> 
> You mean "virtual rollback" of course? IOW a "point in time aware"
view/SP/UDF?

Note that to implement a temporal database in full (I guess we will
loose JC here), not two but _four_ time fields must exist:

<quote>

In the literature, two time lines of interest have been mentioned,
transaction time and valid time. The valid time line represents when a
fact is valid in modelled world (i.e. when it was believed) and the
transaction time line represents when a transaction was performed. A
bitemporal database is a combination of valid time and transaction time
databases where these two time lines are considered to be orthogonal.
(Snodgrass & Ahn 1986)

</quote>

Again, accounting can display the beauty of this: Consider writing an
invoice; you do this, of course, "today", while the invoice date may be
either past, present, or future. Later, selecting on transaction dates
will reveal wether this invoice was created or not; selecting on valid
date will show wether this invoice was issued or not.

You may put it in another perspective: Transaction dates record by
themselves an audit trail which allows you to, at any time, to perform a
dynamic virtual rollback to any previous time, while the valid date will
show you the (approved) state of the data at that time. Specifically,
this allows you to correct previous recordings (say, a wrongly typed
invoice number of a supplier's invoice), or record a future change of a
customer's address and - until he moves - to issue invoices correctly
addressed to his present address.

/gustav

>>> artful at rogers.com 22-11-2006 15:10:35 >>>
My personal fave in this category is the Kimball Group. Specifically,
for MS SQL, I recommend "The Microsoft Data Warehouse Toolkit" by Joy
Mundy and Warren Thornthwaite. There is extensive discussion therein
about SCDs (slowly changing dimensions).

I will check out your sources, too.

A.

----- Original Message ----
From: Gustav Brock <Gustav at cactus.dk>
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com 
Sent: Wednesday, November 22, 2006 8:41:01 AM
Subject: [AccessD] Temporal database (was: Stored Procedure not
producing results)

Hi Arthur

I don't recall you have written about PITA here, but what you describe
is generally known as a temporal database.
This is well-known and has been dealt with by some great capacities in
the database world, Michael Boehlen, Christian Jensen, Richard
Snodgrass
and Andreas Steiner.

http://www.cs.arizona.edu/people/rts/timecenter/timecenter.html 

A brief explanation and introduction can be found here:

http://www.timeconsult.com/TemporalData/TemporalData.html 

Note the link to TimeDB, a Java implementing of "A Bitemporal
Relational DBMS" for Oracle 10g

Also, look up my previous post(ings) on these:

http://databaseadvisors.com/pipermail/accessd/2005-May/034503.html 
http://databaseadvisors.com/pipermail/accessd/2005-May/034455.html 

This is a very exciting area. For some applications it won't even
require that much more data storage (accounting). 
A simplified approach is a write-only database (which means write and
read but neither delete nor update) which both Cach? and MySQL offers.

Now, wouldn't it be nice if only TSQL2 could be implemented in Access:

http://www.cs.arizona.edu/people/rts/tsql2.html 

/gustav


From cfoust at infostatsystems.com  Wed Nov 22 09:53:43 2006
From: cfoust at infostatsystems.com (Charlotte Foust)
Date: Wed, 22 Nov 2006 07:53:43 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] Temporal database (was: Stored Procedure notproducing
	results)
In-Reply-To: <20061122141035.57453.qmail@web88213.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <F55048AF7E974F429BB24597D7355EEA17850C@INFOSERVER04.infostat.local>

I'm with you Arthur.  The Kimball Group stuff is where I learned about data warehousing, and I have at least 3 of his books.  Simple concept once you get your head wrapped around it. 

Charlotte Foust

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of artful at rogers.com
Sent: Wednesday, November 22, 2006 6:11 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Temporal database (was: Stored Procedure notproducing results)

My personal fave in this category is the Kimball Group. Specifically, for MS SQL, I recommend "The Microsoft Data Warehouse Toolkit" by Joy Mundy and Warren Thornthwaite. There is extensive discussion therein about SCDs (slowly changing dimensions).

I will check out your sources, too.

A.

----- Original Message ----
From: Gustav Brock <Gustav at cactus.dk>
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Sent: Wednesday, November 22, 2006 8:41:01 AM
Subject: [AccessD] Temporal database (was: Stored Procedure not producing results)

Hi Arthur

I don't recall you have written about PITA here, but what you describe is generally known as a temporal database.
This is well-known and has been dealt with by some great capacities in the database world, Michael Boehlen, Christian Jensen, Richard Snodgrass and Andreas Steiner.

http://www.cs.arizona.edu/people/rts/timecenter/timecenter.html 

A brief explanation and introduction can be found here:

http://www.timeconsult.com/TemporalData/TemporalData.html 

Note the link to TimeDB, a Java implementing of "A Bitemporal Relational DBMS" for Oracle 10g

Also, look up my previous post(ings) on these:

http://databaseadvisors.com/pipermail/accessd/2005-May/034503.html
http://databaseadvisors.com/pipermail/accessd/2005-May/034455.html 

This is a very exciting area. For some applications it won't even require that much more data storage (accounting). 
A simplified approach is a write-only database (which means write and read but neither delete nor update) which both Cach? and MySQL offers.

Now, wouldn't it be nice if only TSQL2 could be implemented in Access:

http://www.cs.arizona.edu/people/rts/tsql2.html 

/gustav




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From artful at rogers.com  Wed Nov 22 10:00:20 2006
From: artful at rogers.com (artful at rogers.com)
Date: Wed, 22 Nov 2006 08:00:20 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [AccessD] Temporal database (was: Stored Procedure not
	producing results)
Message-ID: <20061122160020.13994.qmail@web88204.mail.re2.yahoo.com>

Quite right, on all counts, Gustav. I stated purposely that I was providing a thumbnail sketch, but I ought to have included these points in said thumbnail. Thanks for the amendments.

Arthur



----- Original Message ----
From: Gustav Brock <Gustav at cactus.dk>
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Sent: Wednesday, November 22, 2006 10:45:32 AM
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Temporal database (was: Stored Procedure not producing results)

Hi Arthur and Shamil

"We need to be able to roll back the database to any given PIT without
actually having to do a restore. We just want to specify a date (Jan 1
2004) and without changing a single line of code, run the reports."
>>> 
> You mean "virtual rollback" of course? IOW a "point in time aware"
view/SP/UDF?

Note that to implement a temporal database in full (I guess we will
loose JC here), not two but _four_ time fields must exist:

<quote>

In the literature, two time lines of interest have been mentioned,
transaction time and valid time. The valid time line represents when a
fact is valid in modelled world (i.e. when it was believed) and the
transaction time line represents when a transaction was performed. A
bitemporal database is a combination of valid time and transaction time
databases where these two time lines are considered to be orthogonal.
(Snodgrass & Ahn 1986)

</quote>

Again, accounting can display the beauty of this: Consider writing an
invoice; you do this, of course, "today", while the invoice date may be
either past, present, or future. Later, selecting on transaction dates
will reveal wether this invoice was created or not; selecting on valid
date will show wether this invoice was issued or not.

You may put it in another perspective: Transaction dates record by
themselves an audit trail which allows you to, at any time, to perform a
dynamic virtual rollback to any previous time, while the valid date will
show you the (approved) state of the data at that time. Specifically,
this allows you to correct previous recordings (say, a wrongly typed
invoice number of a supplier's invoice), or record a future change of a
customer's address and - until he moves - to issue invoices correctly
addressed to his present address.

/gustav






From prodevmg at yahoo.com  Wed Nov 22 10:40:51 2006
From: prodevmg at yahoo.com (Lonnie Johnson)
Date: Wed, 22 Nov 2006 08:40:51 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [AccessD] Can I mouse over a continuous form's control and display
	the value?
Message-ID: <20061122164051.42401.qmail@web33114.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

I have a control on a continuous form. It does not show all the text because of size constraints. I want to mouse over this control and have the value of that control for that record to show in the ControlTextTip property. 

The control is also a calculated field. 

Is there any thing any one can think of for me to be able to show that value when I mouse over it?

I do not want to select the control either because there is code that will fire in the On Click event.
Thanks.
 








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From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com  Wed Nov 22 10:41:15 2006
From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (JWColby)
Date: Wed, 22 Nov 2006 11:41:15 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Stored Procedure not producing results
In-Reply-To: <20061122151418.26001.qmail@web88206.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <003101c70e55$0787ae50$647aa8c0@m6805>

I didn't miss your point, perhaps you missed mine.  

IF you need to know that, or are ever going to need that data, so be it and
use that methodology.  

For my purposes I have no use for the doctor's past addresses.  I do have a
use for every bit of his diagnosis data.  Thus "apply it to the whole
database" makes no sense to me. I really don't care where Sarajevo used to
be, I only care about getting my payments to the right place, so I need to
know where it is today.  If I want to know where Sarajevo used to be I will
look it up on old maps.  Where was it before it got in your database?  You
don't know, and you will have to look it up on old maps as well.

You're point is nothing ever changes anywhere in the database.  

My point is that is useless and clumsy in most cases.  Nothing ever changes
in THIS PARTICULAR TABLE(S) is extremely valuable and worth doing.

John W. Colby
Colby Consulting
www.ColbyConsulting.com

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of artful at rogers.com
Sent: Wednesday, November 22, 2006 10:14 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Stored Procedure not producing results

It seems that you missed the point, JWC. In a PITA setup, nothing is ever
destroyed or overwritten. Thus I can roll back the database (metaphorically)
and discover that on January 11, 2004 Dr. JWC had his office at 123 Main
Street, but on February 1st of the same year, he moved his offices to 234
Side Street. On the former date, Dr. JWC had x clients, and on the latter
date he had y clients.

That is the whole point of PITA.

You do not apply the concept to some tables and not others, in general. The
distinction lies on QCDs (quickly changing dimensions) versus SCDs (slowly
changing dimensions). To be safe, you apply the "do not destroy anything" to
all tables in the database. For example, Yugloslavia and the former USSR
became several countries recently. But we need to be able to look up JWC as
of September, 1990 and see the data as it existed then. At that time,
Sarajevo was in Yugoslavia. Now it is not. I still need to preserve your
1990 address.

Arthur

----- Original Message ----
From: JWColby <jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com>
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Wednesday, November 22, 2006 9:49:02 AM
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Stored Procedure not producing results

Yes, but there has to be a limit somewhere.  Suppose the physician moved.
Do I care what his old address was.  It is the same physician.  Suppose he
gets a new phone number, fax number, etc.  I can see where in some cases you
would want to preserve every piece of data in particular tables, but in
EVERY table?

And in your "family doctor" example, why not simply create a doctor table,
then a FamilyDoctor table that relates family to doctor.  The FamilyDoctor
table has a begin / end date.  New doctor, new entry in the FamilyDoctor
table.  The old FamilyDoctor entry remains and provides the history of who
the family doctor was at any given date.  The m-m FamilyDoctor table is just
two pointers (family and doctor) and a begin / end date.  MUCH simpler than
preserving the entire doctor record whenever any tiny piece of that doctor
record changed, not to mention updating a pointer to that doctor record in
every family's record when some trivial piece of doctor info changes.

Again, I am not arguing with the concept, simply the scope of application of
the concept.

So IF you agree that you limit the scope to specific tables, how do you
determine and automatically apply the concept to specific tables, and not to
others?

John W. Colby
Colby Consulting
www.ColbyConsulting.com

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of artful at rogers.com
Sent: Wednesday, November 22, 2006 9:03 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Stored Procedure not producing results

I have no way to verify whether you mused on this subject or not, but since
you asked, I will provide a thumbnail sketch:

0. You could do it with triggers, but that would not be my first choice.
1. every table will contain two columns called BeginDate and EndDate.
2. any inserted row will have a NOT NULL value in BeginDate, not necessarily
equivalent to today (otherwise you couldn't insert a row that takes effect
on January 1, 2007).
3. any row  without an EndDate is assumed to be effective now.
4. any update to an existing row copies its data to a new row, fills in the
EndDate column on the existing row with GetDate(), and supplies GetDate() as
the BeginDate on the new row.
5. Any "deleted" row is not actually deleted. Rather, it is preserved, but
its EndDate column is updpated to GetDate().

That's a quick thumbnail sketch of PITA. I may have left out a quirk or two
in the sketch, but that's the basic idea. Nothing is destroyed. Everything
is kept, and its time-span is demarcated by its BeginDate and EndDate
columns. 

Taking a practical example, I just switched doctors yesterday. This involves
several operations.

1. The "family physician" has changed, but do not destroy the previous data.
Therefore insert a new row whose BeginDate is yesterday, and update the
previous row, changing its EndDate to yesterday.
2. Agree that all previous medical data concerning me shall be forwarded to
the new physician. (Called Consent, in the medical lingo.) 3. Step two can
be further refined, as in "release data about conditions x, y and z, but not
t, u and v" to my new physician.

At the end of the day, for various important reasons, not the least of which
is litigation, we must be able to determine the state of your particular
record(s) in the database as of January 1, 2004. Who was your physician?
What rights did she have to your prior data? What tests were performed upon
you, and on what dates, and with what results and with what follow-ups?

I chose this example a) because I have been there and written that, and b)
because it illustrates the problem vividly. We could easily substitute
lawyers for the physicians, or dentists, or any professional, including
ourselves, software developers. Consider a project as a metaphorical person
in the above. In 2001, the practitioner list comprised Fuller, Colby and
Salakhetdinov. In 2002, it comprised Hindman, Carbonell, Colby and Lawrence.
In the medical schema, one could easily have several practitioners, one for
heart, one for ENT (ear, nose, throat), one for gynecology, etc. And the
same holds true for a software client -- she employs an accounting expert, a
CRM expert, an Excel macro wizard, an Access expert, and so on.

That was a bit of a sidetrack, but remains on point, I think. The point
being, "We need to be able to roll back the database to any given PIT
without actually having to do a restore. We just want to specify a date (Jan
1 2004) and without changing a single line of code, run the reports.

That is the point of PITA.

It must be designed in from the outset. Not every app needs PITA, but it
becomes very difficult to add it after the fact. As anyone who has followed
my threads must know by now, I tend toward extremism. That said, I suggest
that you design PITA in, just in case it later becomes needed. In that case,
you look like a genius. And if the requirement never emerges, you wasted
some very cheap disk space. 

Arthur
 ----- Original Message ----
From: Shamil Salakhetdinov <shamil at users.mns.ru>
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Wednesday, November 22, 2006 8:27:43 AM
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Stored Procedure not producing results


<<<
So. Today's job is to dig out that PITA article and pitch it to somebody.
>>>
Arthur,

I must say I did "muse" on similar to your PITA ("Point in Time
Architecture") subject somewhere in year 1992 or 1993, that time in FIDO
groups and in Russian...

Am I wrong - wasn't that feature of versioned database data somehow limited
but built-in way implemented in Borland Interbase?

And in MS SQL Server it can be relatively inexpensive way
implemented/simulated using triggers - correct?

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From gwsmith at iowatelecom.net  Wed Nov 22 10:39:52 2006
From: gwsmith at iowatelecom.net (gwsmith at iowatelecom.net)
Date: Wed, 22 Nov 2006 10:39:52 -0600 (CST)
Subject: [AccessD]  XML ... again ... or still
In-Reply-To: <003b01c70e45$6c84e710$6401a8c0@nant>
References: <20061122140314.81269.qmail@web88214.mail.re2.yahoo.com>   
	<003b01c70e45$6c84e710$6401a8c0@nant>
Message-ID: <61180.65.118.249.214.1164213592.squirrel@webmail.iowatelecom.net>

Shamil:

I hate to appear dumber than a post, but I may even be past that.  That
link you gave me the other day:

(http://smsconsulting.spb.ru/shamil_s/topics/xmltests.htm)

which has several examples of code to use for importing XML...I can't get
any of it to work.  I'm sure this is probably the right way to go, but,
without being able to test it, I can't be sure.

I'm certain it's something I'm doing (or not) that is the issue, but I'm
clueless as to what it could be.  Could you please explain how to use
this?  Of course, as always, ANYONE can jump in... :)

I'm sure it falls under the "Cant see the forest for the trees" issue, but
any help would be greatly appreciated!!

Thanks!

Greg Smith
gwsmith at iowatelecom.net






From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com  Wed Nov 22 10:46:33 2006
From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (JWColby)
Date: Wed, 22 Nov 2006 11:46:33 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Temporal database (was: Stored Procedurenot	producing
	results)
In-Reply-To: <s5647ec1.089@cactus.dk>
Message-ID: <003201c70e55$c53655f0$647aa8c0@m6805>

LOL, you may or may not lose me.  I can see applications where this would be
invaluable.  I just do not see where an entire database from state tables to
color tables needs to be temporal.

John W. Colby
Colby Consulting
www.ColbyConsulting.com

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gustav Brock
Sent: Wednesday, November 22, 2006 10:46 AM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Temporal database (was: Stored Procedurenot producing
results)

Hi Arthur and Shamil

"We need to be able to roll back the database to any given PIT without
actually having to do a restore. We just want to specify a date (Jan 1
2004) and without changing a single line of code, run the reports."
>>> 
> You mean "virtual rollback" of course? IOW a "point in time aware"
view/SP/UDF?

Note that to implement a temporal database in full (I guess we will loose JC
here), not two but _four_ time fields must exist:

<quote>

In the literature, two time lines of interest have been mentioned,
transaction time and valid time. The valid time line represents when a fact
is valid in modelled world (i.e. when it was believed) and the transaction
time line represents when a transaction was performed. A bitemporal database
is a combination of valid time and transaction time databases where these
two time lines are considered to be orthogonal.
(Snodgrass & Ahn 1986)

</quote>

Again, accounting can display the beauty of this: Consider writing an
invoice; you do this, of course, "today", while the invoice date may be
either past, present, or future. Later, selecting on transaction dates will
reveal wether this invoice was created or not; selecting on valid date will
show wether this invoice was issued or not.

You may put it in another perspective: Transaction dates record by
themselves an audit trail which allows you to, at any time, to perform a
dynamic virtual rollback to any previous time, while the valid date will
show you the (approved) state of the data at that time. Specifically, this
allows you to correct previous recordings (say, a wrongly typed invoice
number of a supplier's invoice), or record a future change of a customer's
address and - until he moves - to issue invoices correctly addressed to his
present address.

/gustav

>>> artful at rogers.com 22-11-2006 15:10:35 >>>
My personal fave in this category is the Kimball Group. Specifically, for MS
SQL, I recommend "The Microsoft Data Warehouse Toolkit" by Joy Mundy and
Warren Thornthwaite. There is extensive discussion therein about SCDs
(slowly changing dimensions).

I will check out your sources, too.

A.

----- Original Message ----
From: Gustav Brock <Gustav at cactus.dk>
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Sent: Wednesday, November 22, 2006 8:41:01 AM
Subject: [AccessD] Temporal database (was: Stored Procedure not producing
results)

Hi Arthur

I don't recall you have written about PITA here, but what you describe is
generally known as a temporal database.
This is well-known and has been dealt with by some great capacities in the
database world, Michael Boehlen, Christian Jensen, Richard Snodgrass and
Andreas Steiner.

http://www.cs.arizona.edu/people/rts/timecenter/timecenter.html 

A brief explanation and introduction can be found here:

http://www.timeconsult.com/TemporalData/TemporalData.html 

Note the link to TimeDB, a Java implementing of "A Bitemporal Relational
DBMS" for Oracle 10g

Also, look up my previous post(ings) on these:

http://databaseadvisors.com/pipermail/accessd/2005-May/034503.html
http://databaseadvisors.com/pipermail/accessd/2005-May/034455.html 

This is a very exciting area. For some applications it won't even require
that much more data storage (accounting). 
A simplified approach is a write-only database (which means write and read
but neither delete nor update) which both Cach? and MySQL offers.

Now, wouldn't it be nice if only TSQL2 could be implemented in Access:

http://www.cs.arizona.edu/people/rts/tsql2.html 

/gustav
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From shamil at users.mns.ru  Wed Nov 22 11:27:34 2006
From: shamil at users.mns.ru (Shamil Salakhetdinov)
Date: Wed, 22 Nov 2006 20:27:34 +0300
Subject: [AccessD] Stored Procedure not producing results
In-Reply-To: <20061122151845.63792.qmail@web88209.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <003701c70e5b$7f70a510$6401a8c0@nant>

<<<
And I am "extremely" flattered that you noticed.
>>>
OK :)

<<<
and also trigger complexities (fire a trigger on instance X and have it do
something to instance Y which resides on another server in another city). It
can be done, but it is non-trivial.
>>>
Well, OLAP PITA database keeping data for only the current working day, week
or month can be always installed on the same server where its "parent" OLTP
database is installed.
Then replication can be used to replicate OLAP PITA database wherever it's
needed to be replicated => to the main OLAP database(s).

Will that work OK?


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-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of artful at rogers.com
Sent: Wednesday, November 22, 2006 6:19 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Stored Procedure not producing results

I agree with you on the usefulness of triggers, but there are problems
(surmountable). Consider a database (or collection of databases) whose size
grows by a TB per year. This is going to be a huge problem, literally.
Chances are that you won't be able to support the OLTP and OLAP instances on
a single server, unless you have a SAN and very fancy hardware. This is
going to cause RI problems (on MS-SQL at least; Oracle has table-spaces and
can easily work around this issue), and also trigger complexities (fire a
trigger on instance X and have it do something to instance Y which resides
on another server in another city). It can be done, but it is non-trivial.

And I am "extremely" flattered that you noticed. 

----- Original Message ----
From: Shamil Salakhetdinov <shamil at users.mns.ru>
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Wednesday, November 22, 2006 9:49:33 AM
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Stored Procedure not producing results

<<<
As anyone who has followed my threads must
know by now, I tend toward extremism.
>>>
That's so true Arthur! :) (Just kidding of course)

<<<
That said, I suggest that you design PITA in,
just in case it later becomes needed.
>>>
Arthur, these days I'm "biased" toward simple designs and MS SQL triggers
and a parallel OLAP database could be such relatively simple extendable
(plugged/unplugged anytime) solution. I mean I'd just use such triggers to
"replicate" deleted/inserted/updated rows into parallel OLAP database with
tables' structure as you describe i.e. with BeginData and EndDate added.
(And I'd do that only for the tables' customers wanted to have your PITA
enabled with.)
Then all PITA enabled forms/reports/SPs/... will use this parallel OLAP
database together with actual OLTP one if needed...

Do I miss some more effective solutions of this practical task? As you wrote
harddisk memory is cheap these days - I agree with that of course - that's
also a point, which makes rather simple solution with "parallel versioned
data OLAP database" inexpensive...

<<<
"We need to be able to roll back the database to any given PIT without
actually having to do a restore. We just want to specify a date (Jan 1 2004)
and without changing a single line of code, run the reports.
>>> 
You mean "virtual rollback" of course? IOW a "point in time aware"
view/SP/UDF?
 
--
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-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of artful at rogers.com
Sent: Wednesday, November 22, 2006 5:03 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Stored Procedure not producing results

I have no way to verify whether you mused on this subject or not, but since
you asked, I will provide a thumbnail sketch:

0. You could do it with triggers, but that would not be my first choice.
1. every table will contain two columns called BeginDate and EndDate.
2. any inserted row will have a NOT NULL value in BeginDate, not necessarily
equivalent to today (otherwise you couldn't insert a row that takes effect
on January 1, 2007).
3. any row  without an EndDate is assumed to be effective now.
4. any update to an existing row copies its data to a new row, fills in the
EndDate column on the existing row with GetDate(), and supplies GetDate() as
the BeginDate on the new row.
5. Any "deleted" row is not actually deleted. Rather, it is preserved, but
its EndDate column is updpated to GetDate().

That's a quick thumbnail sketch of PITA. I may have left out a quirk or two
in the sketch, but that's the basic idea. Nothing is destroyed. Everything
is kept, and its time-span is demarcated by its BeginDate and EndDate
columns. 

Taking a practical example, I just switched doctors yesterday. This involves
several operations.

1. The "family physician" has changed, but do not destroy the previous data.
Therefore insert a new row whose BeginDate is yesterday, and update the
previous row, changing its EndDate to yesterday.
2. Agree that all previous medical data concerning me shall be forwarded to
the new physician. (Called Consent, in the medical lingo.)
3. Step two can be further refined, as in "release data about conditions x,
y and z, but not t, u and v" to my new physician.

At the end of the day, for various important reasons, not the least of which
is litigation, we must be able to determine the state of your particular
record(s) in the database as of January 1, 2004. Who was your physician?
What rights did she have to your prior data? What tests were performed upon
you, and on what dates, and with what results and with what follow-ups?

I chose this example a) because I have been there and written that, and b)
because it illustrates the problem vividly. We could easily substitute
lawyers for the physicians, or dentists, or any professional, including
ourselves, software developers. Consider a project as a metaphorical person
in the above. In 2001, the practitioner list comprised Fuller, Colby and
Salakhetdinov. In 2002, it comprised Hindman, Carbonell, Colby and Lawrence.
In the medical schema, one could easily have several practitioners, one for
heart, one for ENT (ear, nose, throat), one for gynecology, etc. And the
same holds true for a software client -- she employs an accounting expert, a
CRM expert, an Excel macro wizard, an Access expert, and so on.

That was a bit of a sidetrack, but remains on point, I think. The point
being, "We need to be able to roll back the database to any given PIT
without actually having to do a restore. We just want to specify a date (Jan
1 2004) and without changing a single line of code, run the reports.

That is the point of PITA.

It must be designed in from the outset. Not every app needs PITA, but it
becomes very difficult to add it after the fact. As anyone who has followed
my threads must know by now, I tend toward extremism. That said, I suggest
that you design PITA in, just in case it later becomes needed. In that case,
you look like a genius. And if the requirement never emerges, you wasted
some very cheap disk space. 

Arthur

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From dwaters at usinternet.com  Wed Nov 22 11:34:02 2006
From: dwaters at usinternet.com (Dan Waters)
Date: Wed, 22 Nov 2006 11:34:02 -0600
Subject: [AccessD] Can I mouse over a continuous form's control and
	display the value?
In-Reply-To: <32705631.1164214321883.JavaMail.root@sniper55>
Message-ID: <001501c70e5c$680cfc10$0200a8c0@danwaters>

Would it work to programmatically populate the controltip text property at
the same time the field is populated?  Perhaps the calculation could be done
in code subsequent to an event.  I think the controltip text property is
limited to 255 characters.

Dan Waters

-----Original Message-----
Subject: [AccessD] Can I mouse over a continuous form's control and
displaythe value?

I have a control on a continuous form. It does not show all the text because
of size constraints. I want to mouse over this control and have the value of
that control for that record to show in the ControlTextTip property. 

The control is also a calculated field. 

Is there any thing any one can think of for me to be able to show that value
when I mouse over it?

I do not want to select the control either because there is code that will
fire in the On Click event.
Thanks.




From artful at rogers.com  Wed Nov 22 11:37:08 2006
From: artful at rogers.com (artful at rogers.com)
Date: Wed, 22 Nov 2006 09:37:08 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [AccessD] Stored Procedure not producing results
Message-ID: <20061122173708.64444.qmail@web88205.mail.re2.yahoo.com>

In my recent project involving PITA, there were 8 live databases, each growing by an estimated 1 TB per year. To further complicate things, there was a firewall separating 3 of the databases from the other 5. There was not even a remote possibility that the OLAP db could reside on the same server as the OLTP part.

This in turn posed problems, since RI doesn't work across db boundaries (in MS-SQL). We got around this by duplicating some lookup tables -- not that I'm suggesting that this is the best solution, but merely the one that was selected. This caused some fancy trigger-footwork (inserts, updates, etc.) across db and server boundaries.

Arthur

----- Original Message ----
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To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Wednesday, November 22, 2006 12:27:34 PM
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Stored Procedure not producing results

<<<
And I am "extremely" flattered that you noticed.
>>>
OK :)

<<<
and also trigger complexities (fire a trigger on instance X and have it do
something to instance Y which resides on another server in another city). It
can be done, but it is non-trivial.
>>>
Well, OLAP PITA database keeping data for only the current working day, week
or month can be always installed on the same server where its "parent" OLTP
database is installed.
Then replication can be used to replicate OLAP PITA database wherever it's
needed to be replicated => to the main OLAP database(s).

Will that work OK?


--
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-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of artful at rogers.com
Sent: Wednesday, November 22, 2006 6:19 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Stored Procedure not producing results

I agree with you on the usefulness of triggers, but there are problems
(surmountable). Consider a database (or collection of databases) whose size
grows by a TB per year. This is going to be a huge problem, literally.
Chances are that you won't be able to support the OLTP and OLAP instances on
a single server, unless you have a SAN and very fancy hardware. This is
going to cause RI problems (on MS-SQL at least; Oracle has table-spaces and
can easily work around this issue), and also trigger complexities (fire a
trigger on instance X and have it do something to instance Y which resides
on another server in another city). It can be done, but it is non-trivial.

And I am "extremely" flattered that you noticed. 

----- Original Message ----
From: Shamil Salakhetdinov <shamil at users.mns.ru>
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Wednesday, November 22, 2006 9:49:33 AM
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Stored Procedure not producing results

<<<
As anyone who has followed my threads must
know by now, I tend toward extremism.
>>>
That's so true Arthur! :) (Just kidding of course)

<<<
That said, I suggest that you design PITA in,
just in case it later becomes needed.
>>>
Arthur, these days I'm "biased" toward simple designs and MS SQL triggers
and a parallel OLAP database could be such relatively simple extendable
(plugged/unplugged anytime) solution. I mean I'd just use such triggers to
"replicate" deleted/inserted/updated rows into parallel OLAP database with
tables' structure as you describe i.e. with BeginData and EndDate added.
(And I'd do that only for the tables' customers wanted to have your PITA
enabled with.)
Then all PITA enabled forms/reports/SPs/... will use this parallel OLAP
database together with actual OLTP one if needed...

Do I miss some more effective solutions of this practical task? As you wrote
harddisk memory is cheap these days - I agree with that of course - that's
also a point, which makes rather simple solution with "parallel versioned
data OLAP database" inexpensive...

<<<
"We need to be able to roll back the database to any given PIT without
actually having to do a restore. We just want to specify a date (Jan 1 2004)
and without changing a single line of code, run the reports.
>>> 
You mean "virtual rollback" of course? IOW a "point in time aware"
view/SP/UDF?
 
--
Shamil
 
-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of artful at rogers.com
Sent: Wednesday, November 22, 2006 5:03 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Stored Procedure not producing results

I have no way to verify whether you mused on this subject or not, but since
you asked, I will provide a thumbnail sketch:

0. You could do it with triggers, but that would not be my first choice.
1. every table will contain two columns called BeginDate and EndDate.
2. any inserted row will have a NOT NULL value in BeginDate, not necessarily
equivalent to today (otherwise you couldn't insert a row that takes effect
on January 1, 2007).
3. any row  without an EndDate is assumed to be effective now.
4. any update to an existing row copies its data to a new row, fills in the
EndDate column on the existing row with GetDate(), and supplies GetDate() as
the BeginDate on the new row.
5. Any "deleted" row is not actually deleted. Rather, it is preserved, but
its EndDate column is updpated to GetDate().

That's a quick thumbnail sketch of PITA. I may have left out a quirk or two
in the sketch, but that's the basic idea. Nothing is destroyed. Everything
is kept, and its time-span is demarcated by its BeginDate and EndDate
columns. 

Taking a practical example, I just switched doctors yesterday. This involves
several operations.

1. The "family physician" has changed, but do not destroy the previous data.
Therefore insert a new row whose BeginDate is yesterday, and update the
previous row, changing its EndDate to yesterday.
2. Agree that all previous medical data concerning me shall be forwarded to
the new physician. (Called Consent, in the medical lingo.)
3. Step two can be further refined, as in "release data about conditions x,
y and z, but not t, u and v" to my new physician.

At the end of the day, for various important reasons, not the least of which
is litigation, we must be able to determine the state of your particular
record(s) in the database as of January 1, 2004. Who was your physician?
What rights did she have to your prior data? What tests were performed upon
you, and on what dates, and with what results and with what follow-ups?

I chose this example a) because I have been there and written that, and b)
because it illustrates the problem vividly. We could easily substitute
lawyers for the physicians, or dentists, or any professional, including
ourselves, software developers. Consider a project as a metaphorical person
in the above. In 2001, the practitioner list comprised Fuller, Colby and
Salakhetdinov. In 2002, it comprised Hindman, Carbonell, Colby and Lawrence.
In the medical schema, one could easily have several practitioners, one for
heart, one for ENT (ear, nose, throat), one for gynecology, etc. And the
same holds true for a software client -- she employs an accounting expert, a
CRM expert, an Excel macro wizard, an Access expert, and so on.

That was a bit of a sidetrack, but remains on point, I think. The point
being, "We need to be able to roll back the database to any given PIT
without actually having to do a restore. We just want to specify a date (Jan
1 2004) and without changing a single line of code, run the reports.

That is the point of PITA.

It must be designed in from the outset. Not every app needs PITA, but it
becomes very difficult to add it after the fact. As anyone who has followed
my threads must know by now, I tend toward extremism. That said, I suggest
that you design PITA in, just in case it later becomes needed. In that case,
you look like a genius. And if the requirement never emerges, you wasted
some very cheap disk space. 

Arthur

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From john at winhaven.net  Wed Nov 22 11:52:36 2006
From: john at winhaven.net (John Bartow)
Date: Wed, 22 Nov 2006 11:52:36 -0600
Subject: [AccessD] Can I mouse over a continuous form's control
	anddisplay the value?
In-Reply-To: <001501c70e5c$680cfc10$0200a8c0@danwaters>
Message-ID: <200611221752.kAMHqdq23549@databaseadvisors.com>

I think the issue here is how to get the focus on the correct record so that
the mouse over event doesn't display the selected record's text in the
ControlTipText display. I think I know what you're after and I don't have an
answer for you. I've tried in the past but have quickly given up as the
mouse over event fires so frequently that it becomes disturbing. I've gone
to including an icon with the magnifying glass which simply opens a zoom box
form to display the entire contents of the field.

Best of luck to you and please post back if you do find a suitable solution!

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Dan Waters
Sent: Wednesday, November 22, 2006 11:34 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Can I mouse over a continuous form's control
anddisplay the value?

Would it work to programmatically populate the controltip text property at
the same time the field is populated?  Perhaps the calculation could be done
in code subsequent to an event.  I think the controltip text property is
limited to 255 characters.

Dan Waters

-----Original Message-----
Subject: [AccessD] Can I mouse over a continuous form's control and
displaythe value?

I have a control on a continuous form. It does not show all the text because
of size constraints. I want to mouse over this control and have the value of
that control for that record to show in the ControlTextTip property. 

The control is also a calculated field. 

Is there any thing any one can think of for me to be able to show that value
when I mouse over it?

I do not want to select the control either because there is code that will
fire in the On Click event.
Thanks.


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From newsgrps at dalyn.co.nz  Wed Nov 22 11:53:49 2006
From: newsgrps at dalyn.co.nz (David Emerson)
Date: Thu, 23 Nov 2006 06:53:49 +1300
Subject: [AccessD] Stored Procedure not producing results
In-Reply-To: <0J9400G9ARTCVFL2@l-daemon>
References: <20061122011633.TNVW20709.fep02.xtra.co.nz@Dalyn.dalyn.co.nz>
	<0J9400G9ARTCVFL2@l-daemon>
Message-ID: <20061122180006.CUYN20709.fep02.xtra.co.nz@Dalyn.dalyn.co.nz>

Jim,

Thanks for the info - both items to consider for future development.

However, my issue is no speed (my database with 4 times the amount of 
data runs in less than 2 seconds).  It seems to be either data in the 
smaller one, or a change in structure.

David

At 23/11/2006, you wrote:
>Hi David:
>
>Just a further comment after conferring with a friend; it was noted that
>each one of the statements, that were plused together require a complete
>scan of their respective tables before they can be added.
>
>The overhead must be immense. Try using the Rollup or Cube statements, which
>are highly optimized and should give you a decent speed increase
>(http://databases.about.com/od/sql/l/aacuberollup.htm)
>
>It was also suggested that, if you have control over the database tables
>designing and this report is needed on a regular bases, a single table
>consolidating the flag fields would improve performance.
>
>HTH
>Jim
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of David Emerson
>Sent: Tuesday, November 21, 2006 5:17 PM
>To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
>Subject: [AccessD] Stored Procedure not producing results
>
>SQL 2000
>
>I have the following query running in Query Analyser:
>
>SELECT dbo.tblCustStatement.StatementID, dbo.tblCustomers.TradingName
>as CustName, dbo.tblCustStatement.StatementDate,
>          dbo.tblCustomers.AccountNo, dbo.tblCustStatement.StatementNumber
>FROM dbo.tblCustomers INNER JOIN dbo.tblCustICP ON
>dbo.tblCustomers.CustomerID = dbo.tblCustICP.CustIDNo
>          INNER JOIN dbo.tblCustStatement ON
>dbo.tblCustomers.CustomerID = dbo.tblCustStatement.CustIDNo
>          LEFT OUTER JOIN dbo.vwAgedDebtorReceipt ON
>dbo.tblCustStatement.CustIDNo = dbo.vwAgedDebtorReceipt.CustIDNo
>          AND dbo.tblCustStatement.StatementNumber =
>dbo.vwAgedDebtorReceipt.StatNum
>          LEFT OUTER JOIN dbo.vwAgedDebtorReceiptInv ON
>dbo.tblCustStatement.CustIDNo = dbo.vwAgedDebtorReceiptInv.CustIDNo
>          AND dbo.tblCustStatement.StatementNumber =
>dbo.vwAgedDebtorReceiptInv.InvNum
>WHERE
>          -- Remming out this statement works (and removing the AND at
>the beginning of the next line)
>          (dbo.tblCustStatement.StatementDate >= '2006-11-01' And
>dbo.tblCustStatement.StatementDate <= '2006-11-30')
>          -- Remming out this statement works
>          AND (dbo.tblCustomers.AccStatus= 'Active')
>          AND (dbo.tblCustStatement.[CurrentMth]+
>dbo.tblCustStatement.[OneMonth]+
>dbo.tblCustStatement.[TwoMonths]+
>dbo.tblCustStatement.[ThreeMonths] +
>ISNULL(dbo.vwAgedDebtorReceipt.NetReceipts,0)
>+            ISNULL(dbo.vwAgedDebtorReceipt.GJCredit,0)+
>ISNULL(dbo.vwAgedDebtorReceiptInv.NetReceiptsInv,0)
>+               ISNULL(dbo.vwAgedDebtorReceiptInv.GJCreditInv,0) > 20)
>          AND (dbo.tblCustomers.PayArrange = 0)
>          AND (dbo.tblCustomers.NoOverdueNote = 0)
>          -- Remming out this statement works
>          AND (   CASE
>                          WHEN
>ISNUMERIC(LEFT(dbo.tblCustomers.CreditStatus,2)) = 0 THEN '00'
>                          ELSE LEFT(dbo.tblCustomers.CreditStatus,2)
>                  END < CAST(DAY(GETDATE()) AS varchar(2)))
>          AND (dbo.tblCustomers.CreditStatus NOT LIKE 'Last%' OR
>dbo.tblCustomers.CreditStatus IS NULL)
>          -- Remming out this statement works
>          AND (dbo.tblCustStatement.StatementNumber <> 1)
>ORDER BY CustName, dbo.tblCustomers.AccountNo,
>dbo.tblCustStatement.StatementDate
>
>When I remark out any 1 of the AND statements noted above in the
>WHERE clause the results come back in a couple of seconds.
>However, when I include all AND statement the query runs doesn't
>return any results (at least not within the first ten minutes!)
>
>There doesn't seem to be any pattern to the lines that can be remmed
>or combinations of remaining lines.  The only clue I have is that
>data from the database from two months ago works fine but there are
>750 more records in each table being filtered.
>
>Any suggestions as to how I can solve this - it seems to be a data
>issue but the various combinations of AND statements above doesn't make
>sense.
>
>
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From newsgrps at dalyn.co.nz  Wed Nov 22 11:56:55 2006
From: newsgrps at dalyn.co.nz (David Emerson)
Date: Thu, 23 Nov 2006 06:56:55 +1300
Subject: [AccessD] Stored Procedure not producing results
In-Reply-To: <20061122110827.11706.qmail@web88207.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
References: <20061122110827.11706.qmail@web88207.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <20061122180011.CUZP20709.fep02.xtra.co.nz@Dalyn.dalyn.co.nz>

I tried:

1) Running the query using dates from 2 months ago

2) Deleting all the data so that it was back to where it was two 
months ago and running the query using dates from 2 months ago.

Neither test worked.  Maybe it is a structure change.  I will try 
comparing tables to see if there is any differences.

David

At 23/11/2006, you wrote:
>If the structures haven't changed, then the data is the villain. But 
>you have a concrete clue to work from. Devise some scope that will 
>include only the data from two months ago and verify your assertion. 
>Then expand the scope to "two months ago plus a day" and run it 
>again. Repeat until failure.
>
>This assumes of course that the scope is expandable so easily. (A 
>good reason to have a "DateEntered" column in every table, which 
>defaults to GetDate()).
>
>----- Original Message ----
>From: David Emerson <newsgrps at dalyn.co.nz>
>To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving 
><accessd at databaseadvisors.com>; Access Developers discussion and 
>problem solving <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
>Sent: Tuesday, November 21, 2006 10:53:58 PM
>Subject: Re: [AccessD] Stored Procedure not producing results
>
>Worse - my database from two months ago works fine, but the latest
>version is the one that is causing the problem.  This may indicate a
>data problem perhaps?
>
>David
>
>
>
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From forefront at ig.com.br  Wed Nov 22 11:50:51 2006
From: forefront at ig.com.br (forefront)
Date: Wed, 22 Nov 2006 14:50:51 -0300
Subject: [AccessD] A2K - Disappearing menu and toolbar in Module Design
Message-ID: <20061122_175051_037672.forefront@ig.com.br>

Dear Mates! 
I have a really silly question for you: I have re-inatalled Office 2K with 
all features in disk and in all my databases, Module Design has no menu bar 
or toolbar. All other objects have them properly visible. 
Any help... Pleeeeeease  :) 
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From shamil at users.mns.ru  Wed Nov 22 12:30:40 2006
From: shamil at users.mns.ru (Shamil Salakhetdinov)
Date: Wed, 22 Nov 2006 21:30:40 +0300
Subject: [AccessD] Stored Procedure not producing results
In-Reply-To: <20061122173708.64444.qmail@web88205.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <000f01c70e64$50767f10$6401a8c0@nant>

<<<
This caused some fancy trigger-footwork (inserts, 
updates, etc.) across db and server boundaries.
>>>
So, you do use triggers?

<<<
To further complicate things, there was a firewall separating 3 of the
databases from the other 5.
>>>
OK.
How about, e.g., using Extended Stored Procedures called from triggers,
which write inserted/updated/deleted rows in text(bcp-like) or XML formats,
which are then queued by service MS Windows application  to Mail Server,
which then sends them to OLAP server(s), where they are processed?

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Sent: Wednesday, November 22, 2006 8:37 PM
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Subject: Re: [AccessD] Stored Procedure not producing results

In my recent project involving PITA, there were 8 live databases, each
growing by an estimated 1 TB per year. To further complicate things, there
was a firewall separating 3 of the databases from the other 5. There was not
even a remote possibility that the OLAP db could reside on the same server
as the OLTP part.

This in turn posed problems, since RI doesn't work across db boundaries (in
MS-SQL). We got around this by duplicating some lookup tables -- not that
I'm suggesting that this is the best solution, but merely the one that was
selected. This caused some fancy trigger-footwork (inserts, updates, etc.)
across db and server boundaries.

Arthur

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Sent: Wednesday, November 22, 2006 12:27:34 PM
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Stored Procedure not producing results

<<<
And I am "extremely" flattered that you noticed.
>>>
OK :)

<<<
and also trigger complexities (fire a trigger on instance X and have it do
something to instance Y which resides on another server in another city). It
can be done, but it is non-trivial.
>>>
Well, OLAP PITA database keeping data for only the current working day, week
or month can be always installed on the same server where its "parent" OLTP
database is installed.
Then replication can be used to replicate OLAP PITA database wherever it's
needed to be replicated => to the main OLAP database(s).

Will that work OK?


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Sent: Wednesday, November 22, 2006 6:19 PM
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Subject: Re: [AccessD] Stored Procedure not producing results

I agree with you on the usefulness of triggers, but there are problems
(surmountable). Consider a database (or collection of databases) whose size
grows by a TB per year. This is going to be a huge problem, literally.
Chances are that you won't be able to support the OLTP and OLAP instances on
a single server, unless you have a SAN and very fancy hardware. This is
going to cause RI problems (on MS-SQL at least; Oracle has table-spaces and
can easily work around this issue), and also trigger complexities (fire a
trigger on instance X and have it do something to instance Y which resides
on another server in another city). It can be done, but it is non-trivial.

And I am "extremely" flattered that you noticed. 

----- Original Message ----
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Sent: Wednesday, November 22, 2006 9:49:33 AM
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Stored Procedure not producing results

<<<
As anyone who has followed my threads must
know by now, I tend toward extremism.
>>>
That's so true Arthur! :) (Just kidding of course)

<<<
That said, I suggest that you design PITA in,
just in case it later becomes needed.
>>>
Arthur, these days I'm "biased" toward simple designs and MS SQL triggers
and a parallel OLAP database could be such relatively simple extendable
(plugged/unplugged anytime) solution. I mean I'd just use such triggers to
"replicate" deleted/inserted/updated rows into parallel OLAP database with
tables' structure as you describe i.e. with BeginData and EndDate added.
(And I'd do that only for the tables' customers wanted to have your PITA
enabled with.)
Then all PITA enabled forms/reports/SPs/... will use this parallel OLAP
database together with actual OLTP one if needed...

Do I miss some more effective solutions of this practical task? As you wrote
harddisk memory is cheap these days - I agree with that of course - that's
also a point, which makes rather simple solution with "parallel versioned
data OLAP database" inexpensive...

<<<
"We need to be able to roll back the database to any given PIT without
actually having to do a restore. We just want to specify a date (Jan 1 2004)
and without changing a single line of code, run the reports.
>>> 
You mean "virtual rollback" of course? IOW a "point in time aware"
view/SP/UDF?
 
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Sent: Wednesday, November 22, 2006 5:03 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Stored Procedure not producing results

I have no way to verify whether you mused on this subject or not, but since
you asked, I will provide a thumbnail sketch:

0. You could do it with triggers, but that would not be my first choice.
1. every table will contain two columns called BeginDate and EndDate.
2. any inserted row will have a NOT NULL value in BeginDate, not necessarily
equivalent to today (otherwise you couldn't insert a row that takes effect
on January 1, 2007).
3. any row  without an EndDate is assumed to be effective now.
4. any update to an existing row copies its data to a new row, fills in the
EndDate column on the existing row with GetDate(), and supplies GetDate() as
the BeginDate on the new row.
5. Any "deleted" row is not actually deleted. Rather, it is preserved, but
its EndDate column is updpated to GetDate().

That's a quick thumbnail sketch of PITA. I may have left out a quirk or two
in the sketch, but that's the basic idea. Nothing is destroyed. Everything
is kept, and its time-span is demarcated by its BeginDate and EndDate
columns. 

Taking a practical example, I just switched doctors yesterday. This involves
several operations.

1. The "family physician" has changed, but do not destroy the previous data.
Therefore insert a new row whose BeginDate is yesterday, and update the
previous row, changing its EndDate to yesterday.
2. Agree that all previous medical data concerning me shall be forwarded to
the new physician. (Called Consent, in the medical lingo.)
3. Step two can be further refined, as in "release data about conditions x,
y and z, but not t, u and v" to my new physician.

At the end of the day, for various important reasons, not the least of which
is litigation, we must be able to determine the state of your particular
record(s) in the database as of January 1, 2004. Who was your physician?
What rights did she have to your prior data? What tests were performed upon
you, and on what dates, and with what results and with what follow-ups?

I chose this example a) because I have been there and written that, and b)
because it illustrates the problem vividly. We could easily substitute
lawyers for the physicians, or dentists, or any professional, including
ourselves, software developers. Consider a project as a metaphorical person
in the above. In 2001, the practitioner list comprised Fuller, Colby and
Salakhetdinov. In 2002, it comprised Hindman, Carbonell, Colby and Lawrence.
In the medical schema, one could easily have several practitioners, one for
heart, one for ENT (ear, nose, throat), one for gynecology, etc. And the
same holds true for a software client -- she employs an accounting expert, a
CRM expert, an Excel macro wizard, an Access expert, and so on.

That was a bit of a sidetrack, but remains on point, I think. The point
being, "We need to be able to roll back the database to any given PIT
without actually having to do a restore. We just want to specify a date (Jan
1 2004) and without changing a single line of code, run the reports.

That is the point of PITA.

It must be designed in from the outset. Not every app needs PITA, but it
becomes very difficult to add it after the fact. As anyone who has followed
my threads must know by now, I tend toward extremism. That said, I suggest
that you design PITA in, just in case it later becomes needed. In that case,
you look like a genius. And if the requirement never emerges, you wasted
some very cheap disk space. 

Arthur

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From bill_Patten at earthlink.net  Wed Nov 22 12:35:35 2006
From: bill_Patten at earthlink.net (Bill Patten)
Date: Wed, 22 Nov 2006 10:35:35 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] A2K - Disappearing menu and toolbar in Module Design
References: <20061122_175051_037672.forefront@ig.com.br>
Message-ID: <007d01c70e65$004de860$0202fea9@BPCS>

I had a similar problem the other day with my main Access window having no 
menubar. I was able to double click on a front-end that has it's own 
menubar. I then right clicked on my menu and selected customize then went to 
properties, found the menubar selected it and click restore defaults or 
reset and it worked. If you have any tool or menu's in the module window you 
should be able to do the same thing. If no menu's then I have no idea.

HTH

Bill

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Subject: [AccessD] A2K - Disappearing menu and toolbar in Module Design


Dear Mates!
I have a really silly question for you: I have re-inatalled Office 2K with
all features in disk and in all my databases, Module Design has no menu bar
or toolbar. All other objects have them properly visible.
Any help... Pleeeeeease  :)
TIA,
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From artful at rogers.com  Wed Nov 22 13:16:54 2006
From: artful at rogers.com (artful at rogers.com)
Date: Wed, 22 Nov 2006 11:16:54 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [AccessD] Stored Procedure not producing results
Message-ID: <20061122191654.92594.qmail@web88204.mail.re2.yahoo.com>

If the data is the same, the only other possibility is a structure change.

A proviso, which I am unable to document with specific examples, but I have seen this before. Should any query SELECT * FROM SomeTables, then you modify the table(s) of interest, sometimes it gets derailed.

Arthur

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Sent: Wednesday, November 22, 2006 12:56:55 PM
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Stored Procedure not producing results

I tried:

1) Running the query using dates from 2 months ago

2) Deleting all the data so that it was back to where it was two 
months ago and running the query using dates from 2 months ago.

Neither test worked.  Maybe it is a structure change.  I will try 
comparing tables to see if there is any differences.

David

At 23/11/2006, you wrote:
>If the structures haven't changed, then the data is the villain. But 
>you have a concrete clue to work from. Devise some scope that will 
>include only the data from two months ago and verify your assertion. 
>Then expand the scope to "two months ago plus a day" and run it 
>again. Repeat until failure.
>
>This assumes of course that the scope is expandable so easily. (A 
>good reason to have a "DateEntered" column in every table, which 
>defaults to GetDate()).
>
>----- Original Message ----
>From: David Emerson <newsgrps at dalyn.co.nz>
>To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving 
><accessd at databaseadvisors.com>; Access Developers discussion and 
>problem solving <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
>Sent: Tuesday, November 21, 2006 10:53:58 PM
>Subject: Re: [AccessD] Stored Procedure not producing results
>
>Worse - my database from two months ago works fine, but the latest
>version is the one that is causing the problem.  This may indicate a
>data problem perhaps?
>
>David
>
>
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From markamatte at hotmail.com  Wed Nov 22 13:22:55 2006
From: markamatte at hotmail.com (Mark A Matte)
Date: Wed, 22 Nov 2006 19:22:55 +0000
Subject: [AccessD] Can I mouse over a continuous form's
	controlanddisplay the value?
Message-ID: <BAY127-F114D392BD6695EC1A9E709D2E30@phx.gbl>

I programmatically fill the controltiptext in one of my apps....and I just 
found an error in my thinking...this doesn't work as I intended on a 
Continuous Form.  The controltiptext will only be correct for the first 
record...unless you change with each mouse over...but as mentioned will fire 
at a disturbing rate.  I'm not sure what a good solution for this is???


Just my 2?,

Mark A. Matte


>From: "John Bartow" <john at winhaven.net>
>Reply-To: Access Developers discussion and problem 
>solving<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
>To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem 
>solving'"<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
>Subject: Re: [AccessD] Can I mouse over a continuous form's 
>controlanddisplay the value?
>Date: Wed, 22 Nov 2006 11:52:36 -0600
>
>I think the issue here is how to get the focus on the correct record so 
>that
>the mouse over event doesn't display the selected record's text in the
>ControlTipText display. I think I know what you're after and I don't have 
>an
>answer for you. I've tried in the past but have quickly given up as the
>mouse over event fires so frequently that it becomes disturbing. I've gone
>to including an icon with the magnifying glass which simply opens a zoom 
>box
>form to display the entire contents of the field.
>
>Best of luck to you and please post back if you do find a suitable 
>solution!
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Dan Waters
>Sent: Wednesday, November 22, 2006 11:34 AM
>To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
>Subject: Re: [AccessD] Can I mouse over a continuous form's control
>anddisplay the value?
>
>Would it work to programmatically populate the controltip text property at
>the same time the field is populated?  Perhaps the calculation could be 
>done
>in code subsequent to an event.  I think the controltip text property is
>limited to 255 characters.
>
>Dan Waters
>
>-----Original Message-----
>Subject: [AccessD] Can I mouse over a continuous form's control and
>displaythe value?
>
>I have a control on a continuous form. It does not show all the text 
>because
>of size constraints. I want to mouse over this control and have the value 
>of
>that control for that record to show in the ControlTextTip property.
>
>The control is also a calculated field.
>
>Is there any thing any one can think of for me to be able to show that 
>value
>when I mouse over it?
>
>I do not want to select the control either because there is code that will
>fire in the On Click event.
>Thanks.
>
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From shamil at users.mns.ru  Wed Nov 22 13:41:04 2006
From: shamil at users.mns.ru (Shamil Salakhetdinov)
Date: Wed, 22 Nov 2006 22:41:04 +0300
Subject: [AccessD] XML ... again ... or still
In-Reply-To: <61180.65.118.249.214.1164213592.squirrel@webmail.iowatelecom.net>
Message-ID: <004201c70e6e$25d18cf0$6401a8c0@nant>

Hello Greg,

I did send you sample database offline.

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Sent: Wednesday, November 22, 2006 7:40 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: [AccessD] XML ... again ... or still

Shamil:

I hate to appear dumber than a post, but I may even be past that.  That
link you gave me the other day:

(http://smsconsulting.spb.ru/shamil_s/topics/xmltests.htm)

which has several examples of code to use for importing XML...I can't get
any of it to work.  I'm sure this is probably the right way to go, but,
without being able to test it, I can't be sure.

I'm certain it's something I'm doing (or not) that is the issue, but I'm
clueless as to what it could be.  Could you please explain how to use
this?  Of course, as always, ANYONE can jump in... :)

I'm sure it falls under the "Cant see the forest for the trees" issue, but
any help would be greatly appreciated!!

Thanks!

Greg Smith
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From shamil at users.mns.ru  Wed Nov 22 13:57:06 2006
From: shamil at users.mns.ru (Shamil Salakhetdinov)
Date: Wed, 22 Nov 2006 22:57:06 +0300
Subject: [AccessD] OT: RE:  Hey Shamil
In-Reply-To: <4563A855.8070707@shaw.ca>
Message-ID: <004a01c70e70$64d846d0$6401a8c0@nant>

Thank you, Marty!

I will save this information and pass it to my kids...

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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of MartyConnelly
Sent: Wednesday, November 22, 2006 4:31 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] OT: RE: Hey Shamil

Here is one of interest, they usually try to attract foriegn students
with bursaries in their MA program. It attracts job offers from
External Affairs department and International Banking firms.

Norman Paterson School of International Affairs
Carleton University, Ottawa.
http://www.carleton.ca/npsia/index.html

I coughed when I saw the fees.  I had a roommate who went
through this program. She made it through by working part time
as a bank teller. It didn't interfere with her classes.
I also used to go skiing with Norman's granddaughter Ellen
Patterson who was also in the program at that time. The fees to her
were less than her allowance.

Some Candian Universities offer a CO-OP program
A split work term - university term where the student
gets work experience and enough pay to cover tuition.
Something to look for if tuition a problem.
Although a 4 year degree takes 5 years to complete.
Also you come out with two years work experience.
Microsoft grabs a lot of these guys at Waterloo for work terms.

http://www.cecs.uwaterloo.ca/students/prospective/

Waterloo is one of the top Math/Engineering schools in Canada.
Computer Science is part of the Mathematics Faculty.
Located 120 miles west of Toronto.
http://www.uwaterloo.ca/

Shamil Salakhetdinov wrote:

><<<
>Her brother is a student at the University you worked at in St Petersburg.
>  
>
>Hello Martin,
>
>My greetings to your student from St.Petersburg!
>
>My son is also a student of this local University where her brother is
>studying - it's a small World... :)
>
>BTW, my son and my daughter are looking for the possible ways to continue
in
>the future their professional higher education somewhere abroad - what are
>the best ways to do that:
>
>- assuming they both speak English rather fluently (my daughter also speaks
>French, German(studying) and some Italian(beginner level);
>
>- I do not expect to make big bucks in the near future to pay for their
>higher education abroad...
>
>I mean there could be some grants there and somebody here in this
discussion
>list may know about such grants and if my kids will be able to win such
>grants then they can go there...
>
>Thank you.
>
>--
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> 
>-----Original Message-----
>From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Martin Reid
>Sent: Tuesday, November 21, 2006 11:06 PM
>To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
>Subject: [AccessD] Hey Shamil
>
>Had a girl from your city on my course today.
> 
>Svetlana Svyatko
> 
>Her brother is a student at the University you worked at in St Petersburg.
> 
>Martin
> 
> 
>Martin WP Reid
>Training and Assessment Unit
>Riddle Hall
>Belfast
> 
>tel: 02890 974477
> 
> 
>
>  
>

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From shamil at users.mns.ru  Wed Nov 22 13:57:06 2006
From: shamil at users.mns.ru (Shamil Salakhetdinov)
Date: Wed, 22 Nov 2006 22:57:06 +0300
Subject: [AccessD] OT: RE:  Hey Shamil
In-Reply-To: <003c01c70dc7$8f48bbb0$0200a8c0@danwaters>
Message-ID: <004e01c70e70$6551e3a0$6401a8c0@nant>

Thank you for you information, Dan!

<<<
have you ever thought of contacting Microsoft
>>>
Yes, that could work one fine day, we will see...

<<<
Best of Luck!
>>>
Thank you!

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[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Dan Waters
Sent: Wednesday, November 22, 2006 2:49 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: Re: [AccessD] OT: RE: Hey Shamil

Hi Shamil!

This is the link to the University of Minnesota International Student
Admissions page.  It may be that the climate in Minneapolis is similar to
St. Petersburg.  http://www.isss.umn.edu/ 

In rummaging around the UM site, I found this link:
http://www.educationusa.state.gov/


Also, have you ever thought of contacting Microsoft to see if you could work
for them in some capacity?  It seems to me that with the skill you
definitely have, that they could find a way for you to make them some money
if they would just give you a little bit of theirs!  Really!  


Best of Luck!

Dan Waters


-----Original Message-----
Subject: [AccessD] OT: RE: Hey Shamil


<<<
Her brother is a student at the University you worked at in St Petersburg.
>>>
Hello Martin,

My greetings to your student from St.Petersburg!

My son is also a student of this local University where her brother is
studying - it's a small World... :)

BTW, my son and my daughter are looking for the possible ways to continue in
the future their professional higher education somewhere abroad - what are
the best ways to do that:

- assuming they both speak English rather fluently (my daughter also speaks
French, German(studying) and some Italian(beginner level);

- I do not expect to make big bucks in the near future to pay for their
higher education abroad...

I mean there could be some grants there and somebody here in this discussion
list may know about such grants and if my kids will be able to win such
grants then they can go there...

Thank you.

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-----Original Message-----
Subject: [AccessD] Hey Shamil

Had a girl from your city on my course today.
 
Svetlana Svyatko
 
Her brother is a student at the University you worked at in St Petersburg.
 
Martin
 
 
Martin WP Reid
Training and Assessment Unit
Riddle Hall
Belfast
 
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From martyconnelly at shaw.ca  Wed Nov 22 14:55:02 2006
From: martyconnelly at shaw.ca (MartyConnelly)
Date: Wed, 22 Nov 2006 12:55:02 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] OT: RE:  Hey Shamil
In-Reply-To: <004a01c70e70$64d846d0$6401a8c0@nant>
References: <004a01c70e70$64d846d0$6401a8c0@nant>
Message-ID: <4564B926.6020404@shaw.ca>

The real problem maybe International Fees if not a resident,
usually double the standard fee rate. This maybe waived at the
Universities discretion or covered by one of many bursaries
or scholarships. Grad school applications in North America
usually have a Jan 31 deadline and under grad May for the fall term.
There are ways around this but you will have to ask or grovel a bit;)
You would also have to check if visa allows part time student work
most do in Canada.

I know my kid brother who did two degrees in Law in England &
Scotland  and had to pay International fees even though he had a UK
passport but was a Canadian resident. Well my father coughed up
the money. There was an advantage Law in the UK is an under grad
degree unlike North America where it is a grad degree requiring
7 years (4 under grad 3 grad) . Articling for the bar in Canada
presented a problem as only one province Alberta recognized
UK law degrees.


Shamil Salakhetdinov wrote:

>Thank you, Marty!
>
>I will save this information and pass it to my kids...
>
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> 
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of MartyConnelly
>Sent: Wednesday, November 22, 2006 4:31 AM
>To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
>Subject: Re: [AccessD] OT: RE: Hey Shamil
>
>Here is one of interest, they usually try to attract foriegn students
>with bursaries in their MA program. It attracts job offers from
>External Affairs department and International Banking firms.
>
>Norman Paterson School of International Affairs
>Carleton University, Ottawa.
>http://www.carleton.ca/npsia/index.html
>
>I coughed when I saw the fees.  I had a roommate who went
>through this program. She made it through by working part time
>as a bank teller. It didn't interfere with her classes.
>I also used to go skiing with Norman's granddaughter Ellen
>Patterson who was also in the program at that time. The fees to her
>were less than her allowance.
>
>Some Candian Universities offer a CO-OP program
>A split work term - university term where the student
>gets work experience and enough pay to cover tuition.
>Something to look for if tuition a problem.
>Although a 4 year degree takes 5 years to complete.
>Also you come out with two years work experience.
>Microsoft grabs a lot of these guys at Waterloo for work terms.
>
>http://www.cecs.uwaterloo.ca/students/prospective/
>
>Waterloo is one of the top Math/Engineering schools in Canada.
>Computer Science is part of the Mathematics Faculty.
>Located 120 miles west of Toronto.
>http://www.uwaterloo.ca/
>
>Shamil Salakhetdinov wrote:
>
>  
>
>><<<
>>Her brother is a student at the University you worked at in St Petersburg.
>> 
>>
>>Hello Martin,
>>
>>My greetings to your student from St.Petersburg!
>>
>>My son is also a student of this local University where her brother is
>>studying - it's a small World... :)
>>
>>BTW, my son and my daughter are looking for the possible ways to continue
>>    
>>
>in
>  
>
>>the future their professional higher education somewhere abroad - what are
>>the best ways to do that:
>>
>>- assuming they both speak English rather fluently (my daughter also speaks
>>French, German(studying) and some Italian(beginner level);
>>
>>- I do not expect to make big bucks in the near future to pay for their
>>higher education abroad...
>>
>>I mean there could be some grants there and somebody here in this
>>    
>>
>discussion
>  
>
>>list may know about such grants and if my kids will be able to win such
>>grants then they can go there...
>>
>>Thank you.
>>
>>--
>>Shamil
>>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>>[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Martin Reid
>>Sent: Tuesday, November 21, 2006 11:06 PM
>>To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
>>Subject: [AccessD] Hey Shamil
>>
>>Had a girl from your city on my course today.
>>
>>Svetlana Svyatko
>>
>>Her brother is a student at the University you worked at in St Petersburg.
>>
>>Martin
>>
>>
>>Martin WP Reid
>>Training and Assessment Unit
>>Riddle Hall
>>Belfast
>>
>>tel: 02890 974477
>>
>>
>>
>> 
>>
>>    
>>
>
>  
>

-- 
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Victoria, B.C.
Canada



From prodevmg at yahoo.com  Wed Nov 22 15:33:22 2006
From: prodevmg at yahoo.com (Lonnie Johnson)
Date: Wed, 22 Nov 2006 13:33:22 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [AccessD] Can I mouse over a continuous form's
	controlanddisplay the value?
Message-ID: <20061122213322.65384.qmail@web33112.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Thanks guys. This is one of the best forums that I have queried for answers to my problems.

It seems to work on a field that is bound to a table if I load the value of the field in the mouse over event into the ControlTipText.

Have not found a solution for a calculated field. Actually it is an expression 

(IIf([DoneFlag] = True,[Task])

I will keep trying. I may have to move my OnClick code to the DoubleClick event and use the OnClick to through the value in a label at the top of the form or something. Thanks again.
 








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----- Original Message ----
From: Mark A Matte <markamatte at hotmail.com>
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Sent: Wednesday, November 22, 2006 1:22:55 PM
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Can I mouse over a continuous form's controlanddisplay the value?


I programmatically fill the controltiptext in one of my apps....and I just 
found an error in my thinking...this doesn't work as I intended on a 
Continuous Form.  The controltiptext will only be correct for the first 
record...unless you change with each mouse over...but as mentioned will fire 
at a disturbing rate.  I'm not sure what a good solution for this is???


Just my 2?,

Mark A. Matte


>From: "John Bartow" <john at winhaven.net>
>Reply-To: Access Developers discussion and problem 
>solving<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
>To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem 
>solving'"<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
>Subject: Re: [AccessD] Can I mouse over a continuous form's 
>controlanddisplay the value?
>Date: Wed, 22 Nov 2006 11:52:36 -0600
>
>I think the issue here is how to get the focus on the correct record so 
>that
>the mouse over event doesn't display the selected record's text in the
>ControlTipText display. I think I know what you're after and I don't have 
>an
>answer for you. I've tried in the past but have quickly given up as the
>mouse over event fires so frequently that it becomes disturbing. I've gone
>to including an icon with the magnifying glass which simply opens a zoom 
>box
>form to display the entire contents of the field.
>
>Best of luck to you and please post back if you do find a suitable 
>solution!
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Dan Waters
>Sent: Wednesday, November 22, 2006 11:34 AM
>To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
>Subject: Re: [AccessD] Can I mouse over a continuous form's control
>anddisplay the value?
>
>Would it work to programmatically populate the controltip text property at
>the same time the field is populated?  Perhaps the calculation could be 
>done
>in code subsequent to an event.  I think the controltip text property is
>limited to 255 characters.
>
>Dan Waters
>
>-----Original Message-----
>Subject: [AccessD] Can I mouse over a continuous form's control and
>displaythe value?
>
>I have a control on a continuous form. It does not show all the text 
>because
>of size constraints. I want to mouse over this control and have the value 
>of
>that control for that record to show in the ControlTextTip property.
>
>The control is also a calculated field.
>
>Is there any thing any one can think of for me to be able to show that 
>value
>when I mouse over it?
>
>I do not want to select the control either because there is code that will
>fire in the On Click event.
>Thanks.
>
>
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From accessd at shaw.ca  Wed Nov 22 16:20:19 2006
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Wed, 22 Nov 2006 14:20:19 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] Stored Procedure not producing results
In-Reply-To: <000f01c70e64$50767f10$6401a8c0@nant>
Message-ID: <0J9500JLQKNDZJ00@l-daemon>

This sounds like an excellent idea... I would be delighted to see a system
designed using XML for export, with a SOAP wrapper using SMTP to
message/queue the data into an OLAP DB. I have heard it described, seem it
work but have not been able to get it successfully operating on my
servers....
  
Jim  

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Shamil
Salakhetdinov
Sent: Wednesday, November 22, 2006 10:31 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Stored Procedure not producing results

<<<
This caused some fancy trigger-footwork (inserts, 
updates, etc.) across db and server boundaries.
>>>
So, you do use triggers?

<<<
To further complicate things, there was a firewall separating 3 of the
databases from the other 5.
>>>
OK.
How about, e.g., using Extended Stored Procedures called from triggers,
which write inserted/updated/deleted rows in text(bcp-like) or XML formats,
which are then queued by service MS Windows application  to Mail Server,
which then sends them to OLAP server(s), where they are processed?

--
Shamil
 
-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of artful at rogers.com
Sent: Wednesday, November 22, 2006 8:37 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Stored Procedure not producing results

In my recent project involving PITA, there were 8 live databases, each
growing by an estimated 1 TB per year. To further complicate things, there
was a firewall separating 3 of the databases from the other 5. There was not
even a remote possibility that the OLAP db could reside on the same server
as the OLTP part.

This in turn posed problems, since RI doesn't work across db boundaries (in
MS-SQL). We got around this by duplicating some lookup tables -- not that
I'm suggesting that this is the best solution, but merely the one that was
selected. This caused some fancy trigger-footwork (inserts, updates, etc.)
across db and server boundaries.

Arthur

----- Original Message ----
From: Shamil Salakhetdinov <shamil at users.mns.ru>
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Wednesday, November 22, 2006 12:27:34 PM
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Stored Procedure not producing results

<<<
And I am "extremely" flattered that you noticed.
>>>
OK :)

<<<
and also trigger complexities (fire a trigger on instance X and have it do
something to instance Y which resides on another server in another city). It
can be done, but it is non-trivial.
>>>
Well, OLAP PITA database keeping data for only the current working day, week
or month can be always installed on the same server where its "parent" OLTP
database is installed.
Then replication can be used to replicate OLAP PITA database wherever it's
needed to be replicated => to the main OLAP database(s).

Will that work OK?


--
Shamil
 

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of artful at rogers.com
Sent: Wednesday, November 22, 2006 6:19 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Stored Procedure not producing results

I agree with you on the usefulness of triggers, but there are problems
(surmountable). Consider a database (or collection of databases) whose size
grows by a TB per year. This is going to be a huge problem, literally.
Chances are that you won't be able to support the OLTP and OLAP instances on
a single server, unless you have a SAN and very fancy hardware. This is
going to cause RI problems (on MS-SQL at least; Oracle has table-spaces and
can easily work around this issue), and also trigger complexities (fire a
trigger on instance X and have it do something to instance Y which resides
on another server in another city). It can be done, but it is non-trivial.

And I am "extremely" flattered that you noticed. 

----- Original Message ----
From: Shamil Salakhetdinov <shamil at users.mns.ru>
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Wednesday, November 22, 2006 9:49:33 AM
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Stored Procedure not producing results

<<<
As anyone who has followed my threads must
know by now, I tend toward extremism.
>>>
That's so true Arthur! :) (Just kidding of course)

<<<
That said, I suggest that you design PITA in,
just in case it later becomes needed.
>>>
Arthur, these days I'm "biased" toward simple designs and MS SQL triggers
and a parallel OLAP database could be such relatively simple extendable
(plugged/unplugged anytime) solution. I mean I'd just use such triggers to
"replicate" deleted/inserted/updated rows into parallel OLAP database with
tables' structure as you describe i.e. with BeginData and EndDate added.
(And I'd do that only for the tables' customers wanted to have your PITA
enabled with.)
Then all PITA enabled forms/reports/SPs/... will use this parallel OLAP
database together with actual OLTP one if needed...

Do I miss some more effective solutions of this practical task? As you wrote
harddisk memory is cheap these days - I agree with that of course - that's
also a point, which makes rather simple solution with "parallel versioned
data OLAP database" inexpensive...

<<<
"We need to be able to roll back the database to any given PIT without
actually having to do a restore. We just want to specify a date (Jan 1 2004)
and without changing a single line of code, run the reports.
>>> 
You mean "virtual rollback" of course? IOW a "point in time aware"
view/SP/UDF?
 
--
Shamil
 
-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of artful at rogers.com
Sent: Wednesday, November 22, 2006 5:03 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Stored Procedure not producing results

I have no way to verify whether you mused on this subject or not, but since
you asked, I will provide a thumbnail sketch:

0. You could do it with triggers, but that would not be my first choice.
1. every table will contain two columns called BeginDate and EndDate.
2. any inserted row will have a NOT NULL value in BeginDate, not necessarily
equivalent to today (otherwise you couldn't insert a row that takes effect
on January 1, 2007).
3. any row  without an EndDate is assumed to be effective now.
4. any update to an existing row copies its data to a new row, fills in the
EndDate column on the existing row with GetDate(), and supplies GetDate() as
the BeginDate on the new row.
5. Any "deleted" row is not actually deleted. Rather, it is preserved, but
its EndDate column is updpated to GetDate().

That's a quick thumbnail sketch of PITA. I may have left out a quirk or two
in the sketch, but that's the basic idea. Nothing is destroyed. Everything
is kept, and its time-span is demarcated by its BeginDate and EndDate
columns. 

Taking a practical example, I just switched doctors yesterday. This involves
several operations.

1. The "family physician" has changed, but do not destroy the previous data.
Therefore insert a new row whose BeginDate is yesterday, and update the
previous row, changing its EndDate to yesterday.
2. Agree that all previous medical data concerning me shall be forwarded to
the new physician. (Called Consent, in the medical lingo.)
3. Step two can be further refined, as in "release data about conditions x,
y and z, but not t, u and v" to my new physician.

At the end of the day, for various important reasons, not the least of which
is litigation, we must be able to determine the state of your particular
record(s) in the database as of January 1, 2004. Who was your physician?
What rights did she have to your prior data? What tests were performed upon
you, and on what dates, and with what results and with what follow-ups?

I chose this example a) because I have been there and written that, and b)
because it illustrates the problem vividly. We could easily substitute
lawyers for the physicians, or dentists, or any professional, including
ourselves, software developers. Consider a project as a metaphorical person
in the above. In 2001, the practitioner list comprised Fuller, Colby and
Salakhetdinov. In 2002, it comprised Hindman, Carbonell, Colby and Lawrence.
In the medical schema, one could easily have several practitioners, one for
heart, one for ENT (ear, nose, throat), one for gynecology, etc. And the
same holds true for a software client -- she employs an accounting expert, a
CRM expert, an Excel macro wizard, an Access expert, and so on.

That was a bit of a sidetrack, but remains on point, I think. The point
being, "We need to be able to roll back the database to any given PIT
without actually having to do a restore. We just want to specify a date (Jan
1 2004) and without changing a single line of code, run the reports.

That is the point of PITA.

It must be designed in from the outset. Not every app needs PITA, but it
becomes very difficult to add it after the fact. As anyone who has followed
my threads must know by now, I tend toward extremism. That said, I suggest
that you design PITA in, just in case it later becomes needed. In that case,
you look like a genius. And if the requirement never emerges, you wasted
some very cheap disk space. 

Arthur

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From shamil at users.mns.ru  Wed Nov 22 16:55:22 2006
From: shamil at users.mns.ru (Shamil Salakhetdinov)
Date: Thu, 23 Nov 2006 01:55:22 +0300
Subject: [AccessD] Stored Procedure not producing results
In-Reply-To: <0J9500JLQKNDZJ00@l-daemon>
Message-ID: <001f01c70e89$4aedb7f0$6401a8c0@nant>

Jim,

That should be a relatively simple project I think (if I'm not missing
something) - extended procedures are not even needed:

- triggers can store inserted/updates/deleted rows into "buffer" tables in
another database running on the same SQL Server;
- MS Windows service application can scan these "buffer" tables, say, every
minute and check are there any new rows or not;
- If there are new rows then this service can wrap them into SOAP envelopes
and SMTP to the OLAP db server computer...
- ... where they can be processed by another MS Windows service application
and inserted into OLAP database...

If you will use .NET Framework 2.0 then coding using VB.NET/C# promises to
be minimal...

--
Shamil
 

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim Lawrence
Sent: Thursday, November 23, 2006 1:20 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Stored Procedure not producing results

This sounds like an excellent idea... I would be delighted to see a system
designed using XML for export, with a SOAP wrapper using SMTP to
message/queue the data into an OLAP DB. I have heard it described, seem it
work but have not been able to get it successfully operating on my
servers....
  
Jim  

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Shamil
Salakhetdinov
Sent: Wednesday, November 22, 2006 10:31 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Stored Procedure not producing results

<<<
This caused some fancy trigger-footwork (inserts, 
updates, etc.) across db and server boundaries.
>>>
So, you do use triggers?

<<<
To further complicate things, there was a firewall separating 3 of the
databases from the other 5.
>>>
OK.
How about, e.g., using Extended Stored Procedures called from triggers,
which write inserted/updated/deleted rows in text(bcp-like) or XML formats,
which are then queued by service MS Windows application  to Mail Server,
which then sends them to OLAP server(s), where they are processed?

--
Shamil
 
-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of artful at rogers.com
Sent: Wednesday, November 22, 2006 8:37 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Stored Procedure not producing results

In my recent project involving PITA, there were 8 live databases, each
growing by an estimated 1 TB per year. To further complicate things, there
was a firewall separating 3 of the databases from the other 5. There was not
even a remote possibility that the OLAP db could reside on the same server
as the OLTP part.

This in turn posed problems, since RI doesn't work across db boundaries (in
MS-SQL). We got around this by duplicating some lookup tables -- not that
I'm suggesting that this is the best solution, but merely the one that was
selected. This caused some fancy trigger-footwork (inserts, updates, etc.)
across db and server boundaries.

Arthur

----- Original Message ----
From: Shamil Salakhetdinov <shamil at users.mns.ru>
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Wednesday, November 22, 2006 12:27:34 PM
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Stored Procedure not producing results

<<<
And I am "extremely" flattered that you noticed.
>>>
OK :)

<<<
and also trigger complexities (fire a trigger on instance X and have it do
something to instance Y which resides on another server in another city). It
can be done, but it is non-trivial.
>>>
Well, OLAP PITA database keeping data for only the current working day, week
or month can be always installed on the same server where its "parent" OLTP
database is installed.
Then replication can be used to replicate OLAP PITA database wherever it's
needed to be replicated => to the main OLAP database(s).

Will that work OK?


--
Shamil
 

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of artful at rogers.com
Sent: Wednesday, November 22, 2006 6:19 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Stored Procedure not producing results

I agree with you on the usefulness of triggers, but there are problems
(surmountable). Consider a database (or collection of databases) whose size
grows by a TB per year. This is going to be a huge problem, literally.
Chances are that you won't be able to support the OLTP and OLAP instances on
a single server, unless you have a SAN and very fancy hardware. This is
going to cause RI problems (on MS-SQL at least; Oracle has table-spaces and
can easily work around this issue), and also trigger complexities (fire a
trigger on instance X and have it do something to instance Y which resides
on another server in another city). It can be done, but it is non-trivial.

And I am "extremely" flattered that you noticed. 

----- Original Message ----
From: Shamil Salakhetdinov <shamil at users.mns.ru>
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Wednesday, November 22, 2006 9:49:33 AM
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Stored Procedure not producing results

<<<
As anyone who has followed my threads must
know by now, I tend toward extremism.
>>>
That's so true Arthur! :) (Just kidding of course)

<<<
That said, I suggest that you design PITA in,
just in case it later becomes needed.
>>>
Arthur, these days I'm "biased" toward simple designs and MS SQL triggers
and a parallel OLAP database could be such relatively simple extendable
(plugged/unplugged anytime) solution. I mean I'd just use such triggers to
"replicate" deleted/inserted/updated rows into parallel OLAP database with
tables' structure as you describe i.e. with BeginData and EndDate added.
(And I'd do that only for the tables' customers wanted to have your PITA
enabled with.)
Then all PITA enabled forms/reports/SPs/... will use this parallel OLAP
database together with actual OLTP one if needed...

Do I miss some more effective solutions of this practical task? As you wrote
harddisk memory is cheap these days - I agree with that of course - that's
also a point, which makes rather simple solution with "parallel versioned
data OLAP database" inexpensive...

<<<
"We need to be able to roll back the database to any given PIT without
actually having to do a restore. We just want to specify a date (Jan 1 2004)
and without changing a single line of code, run the reports.
>>> 
You mean "virtual rollback" of course? IOW a "point in time aware"
view/SP/UDF?
 
--
Shamil
 
-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of artful at rogers.com
Sent: Wednesday, November 22, 2006 5:03 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Stored Procedure not producing results

I have no way to verify whether you mused on this subject or not, but since
you asked, I will provide a thumbnail sketch:

0. You could do it with triggers, but that would not be my first choice.
1. every table will contain two columns called BeginDate and EndDate.
2. any inserted row will have a NOT NULL value in BeginDate, not necessarily
equivalent to today (otherwise you couldn't insert a row that takes effect
on January 1, 2007).
3. any row  without an EndDate is assumed to be effective now.
4. any update to an existing row copies its data to a new row, fills in the
EndDate column on the existing row with GetDate(), and supplies GetDate() as
the BeginDate on the new row.
5. Any "deleted" row is not actually deleted. Rather, it is preserved, but
its EndDate column is updpated to GetDate().

That's a quick thumbnail sketch of PITA. I may have left out a quirk or two
in the sketch, but that's the basic idea. Nothing is destroyed. Everything
is kept, and its time-span is demarcated by its BeginDate and EndDate
columns. 

Taking a practical example, I just switched doctors yesterday. This involves
several operations.

1. The "family physician" has changed, but do not destroy the previous data.
Therefore insert a new row whose BeginDate is yesterday, and update the
previous row, changing its EndDate to yesterday.
2. Agree that all previous medical data concerning me shall be forwarded to
the new physician. (Called Consent, in the medical lingo.)
3. Step two can be further refined, as in "release data about conditions x,
y and z, but not t, u and v" to my new physician.

At the end of the day, for various important reasons, not the least of which
is litigation, we must be able to determine the state of your particular
record(s) in the database as of January 1, 2004. Who was your physician?
What rights did she have to your prior data? What tests were performed upon
you, and on what dates, and with what results and with what follow-ups?

I chose this example a) because I have been there and written that, and b)
because it illustrates the problem vividly. We could easily substitute
lawyers for the physicians, or dentists, or any professional, including
ourselves, software developers. Consider a project as a metaphorical person
in the above. In 2001, the practitioner list comprised Fuller, Colby and
Salakhetdinov. In 2002, it comprised Hindman, Carbonell, Colby and Lawrence.
In the medical schema, one could easily have several practitioners, one for
heart, one for ENT (ear, nose, throat), one for gynecology, etc. And the
same holds true for a software client -- she employs an accounting expert, a
CRM expert, an Excel macro wizard, an Access expert, and so on.

That was a bit of a sidetrack, but remains on point, I think. The point
being, "We need to be able to roll back the database to any given PIT
without actually having to do a restore. We just want to specify a date (Jan
1 2004) and without changing a single line of code, run the reports.

That is the point of PITA.

It must be designed in from the outset. Not every app needs PITA, but it
becomes very difficult to add it after the fact. As anyone who has followed
my threads must know by now, I tend toward extremism. That said, I suggest
that you design PITA in, just in case it later becomes needed. In that case,
you look like a genius. And if the requirement never emerges, you wasted
some very cheap disk space. 

Arthur

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From accessd at shaw.ca  Wed Nov 22 18:15:07 2006
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Wed, 22 Nov 2006 16:15:07 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] Stored Procedure not producing results
In-Reply-To: <001f01c70e89$4aedb7f0$6401a8c0@nant>
Message-ID: <0J9500M7RPYPLQR0@l-daemon>

Thanks Shamil... I had not thought of transferring the data to local
database but was trying to make a linked DB work (Oracle 10g)... it should.
Is there a way to do the processing within MS SQL and not have to use an
external development language?

Jim

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[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Shamil
Salakhetdinov
Sent: Wednesday, November 22, 2006 2:55 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Stored Procedure not producing results

Jim,

That should be a relatively simple project I think (if I'm not missing
something) - extended procedures are not even needed:

- triggers can store inserted/updates/deleted rows into "buffer" tables in
another database running on the same SQL Server;
- MS Windows service application can scan these "buffer" tables, say, every
minute and check are there any new rows or not;
- If there are new rows then this service can wrap them into SOAP envelopes
and SMTP to the OLAP db server computer...
- ... where they can be processed by another MS Windows service application
and inserted into OLAP database...

If you will use .NET Framework 2.0 then coding using VB.NET/C# promises to
be minimal...

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-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
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Sent: Thursday, November 23, 2006 1:20 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Stored Procedure not producing results

This sounds like an excellent idea... I would be delighted to see a system
designed using XML for export, with a SOAP wrapper using SMTP to
message/queue the data into an OLAP DB. I have heard it described, seem it
work but have not been able to get it successfully operating on my
servers....
  
Jim  

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Salakhetdinov
Sent: Wednesday, November 22, 2006 10:31 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Stored Procedure not producing results

<<<
This caused some fancy trigger-footwork (inserts, 
updates, etc.) across db and server boundaries.
>>>
So, you do use triggers?

<<<
To further complicate things, there was a firewall separating 3 of the
databases from the other 5.
>>>
OK.
How about, e.g., using Extended Stored Procedures called from triggers,
which write inserted/updated/deleted rows in text(bcp-like) or XML formats,
which are then queued by service MS Windows application  to Mail Server,
which then sends them to OLAP server(s), where they are processed?

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Sent: Wednesday, November 22, 2006 8:37 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Stored Procedure not producing results

In my recent project involving PITA, there were 8 live databases, each
growing by an estimated 1 TB per year. To further complicate things, there
was a firewall separating 3 of the databases from the other 5. There was not
even a remote possibility that the OLAP db could reside on the same server
as the OLTP part.

This in turn posed problems, since RI doesn't work across db boundaries (in
MS-SQL). We got around this by duplicating some lookup tables -- not that
I'm suggesting that this is the best solution, but merely the one that was
selected. This caused some fancy trigger-footwork (inserts, updates, etc.)
across db and server boundaries.

Arthur

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To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
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Sent: Wednesday, November 22, 2006 12:27:34 PM
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Stored Procedure not producing results

<<<
And I am "extremely" flattered that you noticed.
>>>
OK :)

<<<
and also trigger complexities (fire a trigger on instance X and have it do
something to instance Y which resides on another server in another city). It
can be done, but it is non-trivial.
>>>
Well, OLAP PITA database keeping data for only the current working day, week
or month can be always installed on the same server where its "parent" OLTP
database is installed.
Then replication can be used to replicate OLAP PITA database wherever it's
needed to be replicated => to the main OLAP database(s).

Will that work OK?


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Sent: Wednesday, November 22, 2006 6:19 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Stored Procedure not producing results

I agree with you on the usefulness of triggers, but there are problems
(surmountable). Consider a database (or collection of databases) whose size
grows by a TB per year. This is going to be a huge problem, literally.
Chances are that you won't be able to support the OLTP and OLAP instances on
a single server, unless you have a SAN and very fancy hardware. This is
going to cause RI problems (on MS-SQL at least; Oracle has table-spaces and
can easily work around this issue), and also trigger complexities (fire a
trigger on instance X and have it do something to instance Y which resides
on another server in another city). It can be done, but it is non-trivial.

And I am "extremely" flattered that you noticed. 

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Sent: Wednesday, November 22, 2006 9:49:33 AM
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Stored Procedure not producing results

<<<
As anyone who has followed my threads must
know by now, I tend toward extremism.
>>>
That's so true Arthur! :) (Just kidding of course)

<<<
That said, I suggest that you design PITA in,
just in case it later becomes needed.
>>>
Arthur, these days I'm "biased" toward simple designs and MS SQL triggers
and a parallel OLAP database could be such relatively simple extendable
(plugged/unplugged anytime) solution. I mean I'd just use such triggers to
"replicate" deleted/inserted/updated rows into parallel OLAP database with
tables' structure as you describe i.e. with BeginData and EndDate added.
(And I'd do that only for the tables' customers wanted to have your PITA
enabled with.)
Then all PITA enabled forms/reports/SPs/... will use this parallel OLAP
database together with actual OLTP one if needed...

Do I miss some more effective solutions of this practical task? As you wrote
harddisk memory is cheap these days - I agree with that of course - that's
also a point, which makes rather simple solution with "parallel versioned
data OLAP database" inexpensive...

<<<
"We need to be able to roll back the database to any given PIT without
actually having to do a restore. We just want to specify a date (Jan 1 2004)
and without changing a single line of code, run the reports.
>>> 
You mean "virtual rollback" of course? IOW a "point in time aware"
view/SP/UDF?
 
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Sent: Wednesday, November 22, 2006 5:03 PM
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Subject: Re: [AccessD] Stored Procedure not producing results

I have no way to verify whether you mused on this subject or not, but since
you asked, I will provide a thumbnail sketch:

0. You could do it with triggers, but that would not be my first choice.
1. every table will contain two columns called BeginDate and EndDate.
2. any inserted row will have a NOT NULL value in BeginDate, not necessarily
equivalent to today (otherwise you couldn't insert a row that takes effect
on January 1, 2007).
3. any row  without an EndDate is assumed to be effective now.
4. any update to an existing row copies its data to a new row, fills in the
EndDate column on the existing row with GetDate(), and supplies GetDate() as
the BeginDate on the new row.
5. Any "deleted" row is not actually deleted. Rather, it is preserved, but
its EndDate column is updpated to GetDate().

That's a quick thumbnail sketch of PITA. I may have left out a quirk or two
in the sketch, but that's the basic idea. Nothing is destroyed. Everything
is kept, and its time-span is demarcated by its BeginDate and EndDate
columns. 

Taking a practical example, I just switched doctors yesterday. This involves
several operations.

1. The "family physician" has changed, but do not destroy the previous data.
Therefore insert a new row whose BeginDate is yesterday, and update the
previous row, changing its EndDate to yesterday.
2. Agree that all previous medical data concerning me shall be forwarded to
the new physician. (Called Consent, in the medical lingo.)
3. Step two can be further refined, as in "release data about conditions x,
y and z, but not t, u and v" to my new physician.

At the end of the day, for various important reasons, not the least of which
is litigation, we must be able to determine the state of your particular
record(s) in the database as of January 1, 2004. Who was your physician?
What rights did she have to your prior data? What tests were performed upon
you, and on what dates, and with what results and with what follow-ups?

I chose this example a) because I have been there and written that, and b)
because it illustrates the problem vividly. We could easily substitute
lawyers for the physicians, or dentists, or any professional, including
ourselves, software developers. Consider a project as a metaphorical person
in the above. In 2001, the practitioner list comprised Fuller, Colby and
Salakhetdinov. In 2002, it comprised Hindman, Carbonell, Colby and Lawrence.
In the medical schema, one could easily have several practitioners, one for
heart, one for ENT (ear, nose, throat), one for gynecology, etc. And the
same holds true for a software client -- she employs an accounting expert, a
CRM expert, an Excel macro wizard, an Access expert, and so on.

That was a bit of a sidetrack, but remains on point, I think. The point
being, "We need to be able to roll back the database to any given PIT
without actually having to do a restore. We just want to specify a date (Jan
1 2004) and without changing a single line of code, run the reports.

That is the point of PITA.

It must be designed in from the outset. Not every app needs PITA, but it
becomes very difficult to add it after the fact. As anyone who has followed
my threads must know by now, I tend toward extremism. That said, I suggest
that you design PITA in, just in case it later becomes needed. In that case,
you look like a genius. And if the requirement never emerges, you wasted
some very cheap disk space. 

Arthur

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From Gustav at cactus.dk  Thu Nov 23 04:04:07 2006
From: Gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Thu, 23 Nov 2006 11:04:07 +0100
Subject: [AccessD] Can I mouse over a continuous
	form's	controlanddisplay the value?
Message-ID: <s5658041.098@cactus.dk>

Hi Lonnie

Stephen Lebans has done this for a listbox. It might be possible to evolve the technique to cover continuous forms or datasheet forms as well:

http://www.lebans.com/tooltip.htm 

/gustav

>>> prodevmg at yahoo.com 22-11-2006 22:33 >>>
Thanks guys. This is one of the best forums that I have queried for answers to my problems.

It seems to work on a field that is bound to a table if I load the value of the field in the mouse over event into the ControlTipText.

Have not found a solution for a calculated field. Actually it is an expression 

(IIf([DoneFlag] = True,[Task])

I will keep trying. I may have to move my OnClick code to the DoubleClick event and use the OnClick to through the value in a label at the top of the form or something. Thanks again.




From bchacc at san.rr.com  Thu Nov 23 10:35:11 2006
From: bchacc at san.rr.com (Beach Access Software)
Date: Thu, 23 Nov 2006 08:35:11 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] Sending an exe attachment
Message-ID: <000501c70f1d$58c93cc0$6401a8c0@HAL9005>

Dear List:

 

Sorry for the somewhat OT.  I am using Wise/Sagekey combo to make a
setup.exe file so it will be dead simple to install my app - create a
folder, put shortcut on the desktop, etc., etc.

 

Works great but the problem came on the first time I sent to it a dealer to
check it out.  Outlook blocked the exe attachment.

 

I resent it zipped, which will work, but it kind of defeats the purpose
because the user would have to know how to unzip and where the unzipped
setup.exe file landed so they could run it.  This is past the technical
capability of many users.

 

I could also change the extension from exe to abc and that would get it past
the censors but then I would have to instruct the user to change the
extension before running it.

 

Has anyone encountered this problem before and know how to get around it?

 

MTIA,

 

Rocky

 



From Gustav at cactus.dk  Thu Nov 23 10:53:51 2006
From: Gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Thu, 23 Nov 2006 17:53:51 +0100
Subject: [AccessD] Sending an exe attachment
Message-ID: <s565e03c.018@cactus.dk>

Hi Rocky

Yes. 
No (except for the two methods you describe).

/gustav

>>> bchacc at san.rr.com 23-11-2006 17:35 >>>

Has anyone encountered this problem before and know how to get around it?




From dwaters at usinternet.com  Thu Nov 23 10:59:46 2006
From: dwaters at usinternet.com (Dan Waters)
Date: Thu, 23 Nov 2006 10:59:46 -0600
Subject: [AccessD] Sending an exe attachment
In-Reply-To: <28462357.1164300157935.JavaMail.root@sniper53>
Message-ID: <001301c70f20$c8735440$0200a8c0@danwaters>

Hi Rocky,

I have changed the extension (to .pdf) and included good instructions on how
to change it back to .exe.  That seems to work well enough.  I guess you
could create an instruction document which you could attach to the email.

Another thing I've done is to upload the file to my website.  I have a
client download page there which has text in bold letters: "Right-click to
Save File . . .", which is exactly what you see if you right click a file
link on a web page.  I haven't had any .mdb files blocked by doing this.  I
haven't tried with .exe files.

Best of Luck!

Dan Waters

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Subject: [AccessD] Sending an exe attachment

Dear List:

 

Sorry for the somewhat OT.  I am using Wise/Sagekey combo to make a
setup.exe file so it will be dead simple to install my app - create a
folder, put shortcut on the desktop, etc., etc.

 

Works great but the problem came on the first time I sent to it a dealer to
check it out.  Outlook blocked the exe attachment.

 

I resent it zipped, which will work, but it kind of defeats the purpose
because the user would have to know how to unzip and where the unzipped
setup.exe file landed so they could run it.  This is past the technical
capability of many users.

 

I could also change the extension from exe to abc and that would get it past
the censors but then I would have to instruct the user to change the
extension before running it.

 

Has anyone encountered this problem before and know how to get around it?

 

MTIA,

 

Rocky




From bill_Patten at earthlink.net  Thu Nov 23 11:26:11 2006
From: bill_Patten at earthlink.net (Bill Patten)
Date: Thu, 23 Nov 2006 09:26:11 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] Sending an exe attachment
References: <000501c70f1d$58c93cc0$6401a8c0@HAL9005>
Message-ID: <006701c70f24$78830440$0202fea9@BPCS>

Hi Rocky,

I couldn't figure out any good solution either. I often rename the file to 
.ex with instructions to add an e at the end. But even that doesn't work for 
some county's as the Exchange Server wont allow attachments. I now place the 
exe file in an FTP site and send user name and password to the users. They 
type in ftp:// IP address for my site or ftp://ftp-www.earthlink.net  in 
there browser and drag the file to there desktop. Been working well. Might 
not be a good solution for lots of users though.]

Bill
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Sent: Thursday, November 23, 2006 8:35 AM
Subject: [AccessD] Sending an exe attachment


Dear List:



Sorry for the somewhat OT.  I am using Wise/Sagekey combo to make a
setup.exe file so it will be dead simple to install my app - create a
folder, put shortcut on the desktop, etc., etc.



Works great but the problem came on the first time I sent to it a dealer to
check it out.  Outlook blocked the exe attachment.



I resent it zipped, which will work, but it kind of defeats the purpose
because the user would have to know how to unzip and where the unzipped
setup.exe file landed so they could run it.  This is past the technical
capability of many users.



I could also change the extension from exe to abc and that would get it past
the censors but then I would have to instruct the user to change the
extension before running it.



Has anyone encountered this problem before and know how to get around it?



MTIA,



Rocky



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From john at winhaven.net  Thu Nov 23 13:06:09 2006
From: john at winhaven.net (John Bartow)
Date: Thu, 23 Nov 2006 13:06:09 -0600
Subject: [AccessD] Sending an exe attachment
In-Reply-To: <000501c70f1d$58c93cc0$6401a8c0@HAL9005>
Message-ID: <200611231906.kANJ6Bq30342@databaseadvisors.com>

Hi Rocky,
I've resorted to the same issues you have or if the other end can do it
posting on FTP. The problem is that it depends on the end user's system not
ours.

HTH
John B. 

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[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Beach Access
Software
Sent: Thursday, November 23, 2006 10:35 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] Sending an exe attachment

Dear List:

 

Sorry for the somewhat OT.  I am using Wise/Sagekey combo to make a
setup.exe file so it will be dead simple to install my app - create a
folder, put shortcut on the desktop, etc., etc.

 

Works great but the problem came on the first time I sent to it a dealer to
check it out.  Outlook blocked the exe attachment.

 

I resent it zipped, which will work, but it kind of defeats the purpose
because the user would have to know how to unzip and where the unzipped
setup.exe file landed so they could run it.  This is past the technical
capability of many users.

 

I could also change the extension from exe to abc and that would get it past
the censors but then I would have to instruct the user to change the
extension before running it.

 

Has anyone encountered this problem before and know how to get around it?

 

MTIA,

 

Rocky

 

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From dw-murphy at cox.net  Thu Nov 23 13:57:40 2006
From: dw-murphy at cox.net (Doug Murphy)
Date: Thu, 23 Nov 2006 11:57:40 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] Sending an exe attachment
In-Reply-To: <000501c70f1d$58c93cc0$6401a8c0@HAL9005>
Message-ID: <002701c70f39$a1cce220$0200a8c0@murphy3234aaf1>

Rocky,

This seems to be a universal problem.  When outlook started blocking exe
files I started changing the file extensions and sending that way to
clients, but it is a crude solution.  I then found that gmail, which is
free, could be used to transfer files, so I set each client up with a gmail
account and they could download my files.  Now Gmail is blocking
executables.  I think the best solution would be to put the files on your
web site for users or set up an ftp site where they can download.  That puts
the least demand on the user.

Another option if you and your client use Skype, a great free VOIP service,
is to send the file via skype while you and the client are on line.

Let us know if you find a good solution using email.

Doug 

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[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Beach Access
Software
Sent: Thursday, November 23, 2006 8:35 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] Sending an exe attachment

Dear List:

 

Sorry for the somewhat OT.  I am using Wise/Sagekey combo to make a
setup.exe file so it will be dead simple to install my app - create a
folder, put shortcut on the desktop, etc., etc.

 

Works great but the problem came on the first time I sent to it a dealer to
check it out.  Outlook blocked the exe attachment.

 

I resent it zipped, which will work, but it kind of defeats the purpose
because the user would have to know how to unzip and where the unzipped
setup.exe file landed so they could run it.  This is past the technical
capability of many users.

 

I could also change the extension from exe to abc and that would get it past
the censors but then I would have to instruct the user to change the
extension before running it.

 

Has anyone encountered this problem before and know how to get around it?

 

MTIA,

 

Rocky

 

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From wdhindman at dejpolsystems.com  Thu Nov 23 13:58:18 2006
From: wdhindman at dejpolsystems.com (William Hindman)
Date: Thu, 23 Nov 2006 14:58:18 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Sending an exe attachment
References: <000501c70f1d$58c93cc0$6401a8c0@HAL9005>
Message-ID: <008401c70f39$b8d97500$3e3de844@50NM721>

...have you looked at the Wise/Sagekey forums? ...I use an ftp site to 
distribute my apps but then I have direct access to each client to train on 
how to do that easily and efficiently ...but it would seem to me that this 
is precisely the kind of problem that those using wise/sagekey for 
distribution would frequently face and thus I'd assume that their forums 
would have an extensive kb on it.

William Hindman

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To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'" 
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Sent: Thursday, November 23, 2006 11:35 AM
Subject: [AccessD] Sending an exe attachment


> Dear List:
>
>
>
> Sorry for the somewhat OT.  I am using Wise/Sagekey combo to make a
> setup.exe file so it will be dead simple to install my app - create a
> folder, put shortcut on the desktop, etc., etc.
>
>
>
> Works great but the problem came on the first time I sent to it a dealer 
> to
> check it out.  Outlook blocked the exe attachment.
>
>
>
> I resent it zipped, which will work, but it kind of defeats the purpose
> because the user would have to know how to unzip and where the unzipped
> setup.exe file landed so they could run it.  This is past the technical
> capability of many users.
>
>
>
> I could also change the extension from exe to abc and that would get it 
> past
> the censors but then I would have to instruct the user to change the
> extension before running it.
>
>
>
> Has anyone encountered this problem before and know how to get around it?
>
>
>
> MTIA,
>
>
>
> Rocky
>
>
>
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From martyconnelly at shaw.ca  Thu Nov 23 14:38:42 2006
From: martyconnelly at shaw.ca (MartyConnelly)
Date: Thu, 23 Nov 2006 12:38:42 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] Info Access Security
In-Reply-To: <006701c70f24$78830440$0202fea9@BPCS>
References: <000501c70f1d$58c93cc0$6401a8c0@HAL9005>
	<006701c70f24$78830440$0202fea9@BPCS>
Message-ID: <456606D2.5050702@shaw.ca>

Just came across this, might be useful.

Okay I found a complete step by step online guide to Access security
complete with pictures, screen shots and diagrams. Includes tips on
distributing the secured application.

http://www.databasedev.co.uk/access_security.html

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Victoria, B.C.
Canada



From shamil at users.mns.ru  Thu Nov 23 15:01:09 2006
From: shamil at users.mns.ru (Shamil Salakhetdinov)
Date: Fri, 24 Nov 2006 00:01:09 +0300
Subject: [AccessD] OT: 3 US cities airport codes
Message-ID: <001501c70f42$80a2a770$6401a8c0@nant>

Hi All,

I can't get what IATA airport codes to use for the following cities:

Lake Forest, IL, 60045
Olathe, KS, 66062
Walnut, CA, 91789

Could you please help me to solve this issue?

Thank you.

--
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From pedro at plex.nl  Thu Nov 23 15:27:33 2006
From: pedro at plex.nl (Pedro Janssen)
Date: Thu, 23 Nov 2006 22:27:33 +0100
Subject: [AccessD] #Name?
Message-ID: <000a01c70f46$303203e0$4001a8c0@qmotionfaa3ad9>

Hello Group,

i don't understand why i get: #Name?, in a textbox, when setting control source to:

=[Forms]![frmFossielData]![txtEralID].[Column](1)

The form, field en column exist.

Pedro Janssen

From pedro at plex.nl  Thu Nov 23 15:32:01 2006
From: pedro at plex.nl (Pedro Janssen)
Date: Thu, 23 Nov 2006 22:32:01 +0100
Subject: [AccessD] saving values
Message-ID: <001101c70f46$d05f91c0$4001a8c0@qmotionfaa3ad9>

Hello Group,

i still have troubles saving values from unbound comboxes (cascade) in table fields.

What is the best way to do this.

Pedro Janssen

From bchacc at san.rr.com  Thu Nov 23 15:36:01 2006
From: bchacc at san.rr.com (Beach Access Software)
Date: Thu, 23 Nov 2006 13:36:01 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] Date problem in Bound Form
Message-ID: <005201c70f47$5f8ba370$6401a8c0@HAL9005>

Dear List:

 

I have a bound form which has as one of its fields fldScheduledStartDate.
On the form I allow the user to input a scheduled start date filter - a >= a
scheduled start date and a <= a scheduled start date.  This works real well
in American date format - mm/dd/yyyy - but when I change regional settings
to UK it doesn't.  Everything on the bound form appears dd/mm/yyyy.  The
date filter appears dd/mm/yyyy.  But it doesn't filter.  

 

The filter which is set to limit records with a scheduled start date in
November looks like this:

 

fldPMScheduleStartDate >= #01/11/2006# AND fldPMScheduleStartDate <=
#30/11/2006#

 

The two date are copied out of the unbound text boxes on the form just as
they appear.  The text boxes have their format set to Short Date.

 

Anyone know why the filter is failing to filter?

 

MTIA,

 

Rocky

 



From stuart at lexacorp.com.pg  Thu Nov 23 15:53:54 2006
From: stuart at lexacorp.com.pg (Stuart McLachlan)
Date: Fri, 24 Nov 2006 07:53:54 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] Date problem in Bound Form
In-Reply-To: <005201c70f47$5f8ba370$6401a8c0@HAL9005>
References: <005201c70f47$5f8ba370$6401a8c0@HAL9005>
Message-ID: <45661872.20153.342C693@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>

Ah, the joys of internationalisation :-)

See below

On 23 Nov 2006 at 13:36, Beach Access Software wrote:

> The filter which is set to limit records with a scheduled start date in
> November looks like this:
...
> fldPMScheduleStartDate >= #01/11/2006# AND fldPMScheduleStartDate <=
> #30/11/2006#
> 
> The two date are copied out of the unbound text boxes on the form just as
> they appear.  The text boxes have their format set to Short Date.
> 
> Anyone know why the filter is failing to filter?

Because SQL and "#"'s require US format.

Assuming you are getting the two dates from txtStart and txtEnd, use 
something like the following, then it doesn't matter what the machine's 
local date settings are:

strFilter = "fldPMScheduleStartDate >= Datevalue('" & txtstart & "') AND 
fldPMScheduleStartDate <= Datevalue('" & txtend & "')"

-- 
Stuart




From wdhindman at dejpolsystems.com  Thu Nov 23 15:54:46 2006
From: wdhindman at dejpolsystems.com (William Hindman)
Date: Thu, 23 Nov 2006 16:54:46 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Date problem in Bound Form
References: <005201c70f47$5f8ba370$6401a8c0@HAL9005>
Message-ID: <002b01c70f49$fe54ad60$3e3de844@50NM721>

...the same field name is used in both filter fields in your example?

William Hindman

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Beach Access Software" <bchacc at san.rr.com>
To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'" 
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Thursday, November 23, 2006 4:36 PM
Subject: [AccessD] Date problem in Bound Form


> Dear List:
>
>
>
> I have a bound form which has as one of its fields fldScheduledStartDate.
> On the form I allow the user to input a scheduled start date filter - a >= 
> a
> scheduled start date and a <= a scheduled start date.  This works real 
> well
> in American date format - mm/dd/yyyy - but when I change regional settings
> to UK it doesn't.  Everything on the bound form appears dd/mm/yyyy.  The
> date filter appears dd/mm/yyyy.  But it doesn't filter.
>
>
>
> The filter which is set to limit records with a scheduled start date in
> November looks like this:
>
>
>
> fldPMScheduleStartDate >= #01/11/2006# AND fldPMScheduleStartDate <=
> #30/11/2006#
>
>
>
> The two date are copied out of the unbound text boxes on the form just as
> they appear.  The text boxes have their format set to Short Date.
>
>
>
> Anyone know why the filter is failing to filter?
>
>
>
> MTIA,
>
>
>
> Rocky
>
>
>
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From martyconnelly at shaw.ca  Thu Nov 23 16:10:23 2006
From: martyconnelly at shaw.ca (MartyConnelly)
Date: Thu, 23 Nov 2006 14:10:23 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] OT: 3 US cities airport codes
In-Reply-To: <001501c70f42$80a2a770$6401a8c0@nant>
References: <001501c70f42$80a2a770$6401a8c0@nant>
Message-ID: <45661C4F.6040308@shaw.ca>

 From http://www.mapping.com/airportcodes.html

ICAO Code FAA or IATA Code Town or CIty State or Province Airport Name 
Country

  IXD Olathe KS [New Century Aircenter Airport] USA
  OJC Olathe KS/Kansas City MO [Johnson County Executive Airport] USA
  51K Olathe KS [Cedar Airpark Airport] USA

ICAO Code FAA or IATA Code Town or CIty State or Province Airport Name 
Country

  CA63 Walnut Creek CA [John Muir Memorial Hospital] USA

ICAO Code FAA or IATA Code Town or CIty State or Province Airport Name 
Country
  ME28 Cumberland ME [Forest Lake] USA
  MY82 Forest Lake MN [Du Fresne] USA
  UT18 Salt Lake City UT [U S Forest Service] USA
  25D Forest Lake MN [Forest Lake Airport] USA

I dunno about Lake Forest Illinois, it is a suburb of Chicago
where major fields are Midway and O'Hare
But Lake Forest is the headquarters of United Airlines
so it could be a private strip or a helipad.



Shamil Salakhetdinov wrote:

>Hi All,
>
>I can't get what IATA airport codes to use for the following cities:
>
>Lake Forest, IL, 60045
>Olathe, KS, 66062
>Walnut, CA, 91789
>
>Could you please help me to solve this issue?
>
>Thank you.
>
>--
>Shamil
> 
>
>  
>

-- 
Marty Connelly
Victoria, B.C.
Canada



From shamil at users.mns.ru  Thu Nov 23 16:29:37 2006
From: shamil at users.mns.ru (Shamil Salakhetdinov)
Date: Fri, 24 Nov 2006 01:29:37 +0300
Subject: [AccessD] OT: 3 US cities airport codes
In-Reply-To: <45661C4F.6040308@shaw.ca>
Message-ID: <002101c70f4e$dc567db0$6401a8c0@nant>

Thank you Marty!

--
Shamil
 

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of MartyConnelly
Sent: Friday, November 24, 2006 1:10 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] OT: 3 US cities airport codes

 From http://www.mapping.com/airportcodes.html

ICAO Code FAA or IATA Code Town or CIty State or Province Airport Name 
Country

  IXD Olathe KS [New Century Aircenter Airport] USA
  OJC Olathe KS/Kansas City MO [Johnson County Executive Airport] USA
  51K Olathe KS [Cedar Airpark Airport] USA

ICAO Code FAA or IATA Code Town or CIty State or Province Airport Name 
Country

  CA63 Walnut Creek CA [John Muir Memorial Hospital] USA

ICAO Code FAA or IATA Code Town or CIty State or Province Airport Name 
Country
  ME28 Cumberland ME [Forest Lake] USA
  MY82 Forest Lake MN [Du Fresne] USA
  UT18 Salt Lake City UT [U S Forest Service] USA
  25D Forest Lake MN [Forest Lake Airport] USA

I dunno about Lake Forest Illinois, it is a suburb of Chicago
where major fields are Midway and O'Hare
But Lake Forest is the headquarters of United Airlines
so it could be a private strip or a helipad.



Shamil Salakhetdinov wrote:

>Hi All,
>
>I can't get what IATA airport codes to use for the following cities:
>
>Lake Forest, IL, 60045
>Olathe, KS, 66062
>Walnut, CA, 91789
>
>Could you please help me to solve this issue?
>
>Thank you.
>
>--
>Shamil
> 
>
>  
>

-- 
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Victoria, B.C.
Canada

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From bchacc at san.rr.com  Thu Nov 23 17:07:04 2006
From: bchacc at san.rr.com (Beach Access Software)
Date: Thu, 23 Nov 2006 15:07:04 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] saving values
In-Reply-To: <001101c70f46$d05f91c0$4001a8c0@qmotionfaa3ad9>
Message-ID: <005701c70f54$17d987b0$6401a8c0@HAL9005>

I'd use Dao, open the record in question, push the value in, and requery the
form.

Rocky


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Pedro Janssen
Sent: 23 November 2006 13:32
To: AccessD
Subject: [AccessD] saving values

Hello Group,

i still have troubles saving values from unbound comboxes (cascade) in table
fields.

What is the best way to do this.

Pedro Janssen
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From bchacc at san.rr.com  Thu Nov 23 17:07:46 2006
From: bchacc at san.rr.com (Beach Access Software)
Date: Thu, 23 Nov 2006 15:07:46 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] Date problem in Bound Form
In-Reply-To: <002b01c70f49$fe54ad60$3e3de844@50NM721>
Message-ID: <005801c70f54$30cf25e0$6401a8c0@HAL9005>

Yep

R


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of William Hindman
Sent: 23 November 2006 13:55
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Date problem in Bound Form

...the same field name is used in both filter fields in your example?

William Hindman

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Beach Access Software" <bchacc at san.rr.com>
To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'" 
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Thursday, November 23, 2006 4:36 PM
Subject: [AccessD] Date problem in Bound Form


> Dear List:
>
>
>
> I have a bound form which has as one of its fields fldScheduledStartDate.
> On the form I allow the user to input a scheduled start date filter - a >=

> a
> scheduled start date and a <= a scheduled start date.  This works real 
> well
> in American date format - mm/dd/yyyy - but when I change regional settings
> to UK it doesn't.  Everything on the bound form appears dd/mm/yyyy.  The
> date filter appears dd/mm/yyyy.  But it doesn't filter.
>
>
>
> The filter which is set to limit records with a scheduled start date in
> November looks like this:
>
>
>
> fldPMScheduleStartDate >= #01/11/2006# AND fldPMScheduleStartDate <=
> #30/11/2006#
>
>
>
> The two date are copied out of the unbound text boxes on the form just as
> they appear.  The text boxes have their format set to Short Date.
>
>
>
> Anyone know why the filter is failing to filter?
>
>
>
> MTIA,
>
>
>
> Rocky
>
>
>
> -- 
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From bchacc at san.rr.com  Thu Nov 23 17:11:55 2006
From: bchacc at san.rr.com (Beach Access Software)
Date: Thu, 23 Nov 2006 15:11:55 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] Date problem in Bound Form
In-Reply-To: <45661872.20153.342C693@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>
Message-ID: <005901c70f54$c51f49a0$6401a8c0@HAL9005>

That worked!!  Thank you, thank you, thaaank you.

Now I can go eat a turkey. 

Rocky


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Stuart McLachlan
Sent: 23 November 2006 13:54
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Date problem in Bound Form

Ah, the joys of internationalisation :-)

See below

On 23 Nov 2006 at 13:36, Beach Access Software wrote:

> The filter which is set to limit records with a scheduled start date in
> November looks like this:
...
> fldPMScheduleStartDate >= #01/11/2006# AND fldPMScheduleStartDate <=
> #30/11/2006#
> 
> The two date are copied out of the unbound text boxes on the form just as
> they appear.  The text boxes have their format set to Short Date.
> 
> Anyone know why the filter is failing to filter?

Because SQL and "#"'s require US format.

Assuming you are getting the two dates from txtStart and txtEnd, use 
something like the following, then it doesn't matter what the machine's 
local date settings are:

strFilter = "fldPMScheduleStartDate >= Datevalue('" & txtstart & "') AND 
fldPMScheduleStartDate <= Datevalue('" & txtend & "')"

-- 
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From pedro at plex.nl  Thu Nov 23 17:34:34 2006
From: pedro at plex.nl (Pedro Janssen)
Date: Fri, 24 Nov 2006 00:34:34 +0100
Subject: [AccessD] saving values
References: <005701c70f54$17d987b0$6401a8c0@HAL9005>
Message-ID: <003301c70f57$ef1a2d30$4001a8c0@qmotionfaa3ad9>

Hello Rocky,

could you give me an example of that, preferably in a example database.
I have tried several things until now but nothing is working perfect.

Pedro Janssen


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Beach Access Software" <bchacc at san.rr.com>
To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'" 
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Friday, November 24, 2006 12:07 AM
Subject: Re: [AccessD] saving values


> I'd use Dao, open the record in question, push the value in, and requery 
> the
> form.
>
> Rocky
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Pedro Janssen
> Sent: 23 November 2006 13:32
> To: AccessD
> Subject: [AccessD] saving values
>
> Hello Group,
>
> i still have troubles saving values from unbound comboxes (cascade) in 
> table
> fields.
>
> What is the best way to do this.
>
> Pedro Janssen
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> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com
>
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From accessd at shaw.ca  Fri Nov 24 13:12:41 2006
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Fri, 24 Nov 2006 11:12:41 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] OT Friday
In-Reply-To: <45661C4F.6040308@shaw.ca>
Message-ID: <0J9900F6Y1AXD4Y1@l-daemon>

OT Friday:

Here is an interesting link: http://www.spoj.pl/problems/classical/

Jim



From tinanfields at torchlake.com  Fri Nov 24 13:42:40 2006
From: tinanfields at torchlake.com (Tina Norris Fields)
Date: Fri, 24 Nov 2006 14:42:40 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] #Name?
In-Reply-To: <000a01c70f46$303203e0$4001a8c0@qmotionfaa3ad9>
References: <000a01c70f46$303203e0$4001a8c0@qmotionfaa3ad9>
Message-ID: <45674B30.8080901@torchlake.com>

Pedro,
Column (0) instead of Column (1) maybe?
Tina

Pedro Janssen wrote:
> Hello Group,
>
> i don't understand why i get: #Name?, in a textbox, when setting control source to:
>
> =[Forms]![frmFossielData]![txtEralID].[Column](1)
>
> The form, field en column exist.
>
> Pedro Janssen
>   


From bchacc at san.rr.com  Fri Nov 24 14:09:39 2006
From: bchacc at san.rr.com (Beach Access Software)
Date: Fri, 24 Nov 2006 12:09:39 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] saving values
In-Reply-To: <003301c70f57$ef1a2d30$4001a8c0@qmotionfaa3ad9>
Message-ID: <006101c71004$790c47b0$6401a8c0@HAL9005>

Pedro:

Just off the top and untested:

Dim db as DAO.Database
Dim rs as DAO.Recordset

Set db = CurrentDb
Set rs = db.OpenRecordset("Select fldOne, fldTwo, fldThree FROM tblMyTable
WHERE fldPK = " & lngPrimaryKey) 

' Note: You could use any criteria you want in the WHERE clause; doesn't
have to be the primary key.

rs.Edit
rs!fldOne = cboComboBox1
rs!fldTwo = cboComboBox2
rs!fldThree = cboComboBox3
rs.Update

rs.Close
db.Close

set rs = Nothing
set db = Nothing

Me.Requery (assuming you want the values to show on the bound form.


Or here's another approach which I think should work but I haven't tested:

Set db = CurrentDb
Db.Execute "UPDATE tblMyTable SET tblMyTable.fldOne = '" & cboComboBox1 &
"', tblMyTable.fldTwo= '" & cboComboBox2 & "', tblMyTable.fldThree = '" &
cboComboBox3 & "';"

Note that I have assumes that the values are string values and so need to
have preceding and following apostrophes.  If the values are numeric then
they won't need the '.

I'm sure someone else looking at this code will make the appropriate
corrections.

Regards,

Rocky


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Pedro Janssen
Sent: Thursday, November 23, 2006 3:35 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] saving values

Hello Rocky,

could you give me an example of that, preferably in a example database.
I have tried several things until now but nothing is working perfect.

Pedro Janssen


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Beach Access Software" <bchacc at san.rr.com>
To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'" 
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Friday, November 24, 2006 12:07 AM
Subject: Re: [AccessD] saving values


> I'd use Dao, open the record in question, push the value in, and requery 
> the
> form.
>
> Rocky
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Pedro Janssen
> Sent: 23 November 2006 13:32
> To: AccessD
> Subject: [AccessD] saving values
>
> Hello Group,
>
> i still have troubles saving values from unbound comboxes (cascade) in 
> table
> fields.
>
> What is the best way to do this.
>
> Pedro Janssen
> -- 
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>
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From markamatte at hotmail.com  Fri Nov 24 14:15:44 2006
From: markamatte at hotmail.com (Mark A Matte)
Date: Fri, 24 Nov 2006 20:15:44 +0000
Subject: [AccessD] OT Friday
In-Reply-To: <0J9900F6Y1AXD4Y1@l-daemon>
Message-ID: <BAY127-F5381AEE0CF87D889BB70BD2E10@phx.gbl>

Jim,

Thats really cool...I just spent the last 30 minutes learning  how to to 
Mayan arithmatic.  I know thats not the purpose of the site...but it caught 
my attention.

Thanks,

Mark A. Matte


>From: Jim Lawrence <accessd at shaw.ca>
>Reply-To: Access Developers discussion and problem 
>solving<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
>To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem 
>solving'"<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
>Subject: [AccessD] OT Friday
>Date: Fri, 24 Nov 2006 11:12:41 -0800
>
>OT Friday:
>
>Here is an interesting link: http://www.spoj.pl/problems/classical/
>
>Jim
>
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From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com  Sat Nov 25 05:28:52 2006
From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (JWColby)
Date: Sat, 25 Nov 2006 06:28:52 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Cursor selects everything to the right
Message-ID: <000301c71084$e37d5dc0$657aa8c0@m6805>

I have seen this before and managed to get rid of it but don't remember how.
In a query, the cursor is selecting everything to the right of the cursor,
anywhere you place the cursor in query design.  Very annoying.
 
Closing the db and re-opening makes it go away.  Does anyone know why this
happens and how to get rid of it short of close / re-open.  I seem to
remember it has something to do with the sticky keys stuff but I could be
mistaken.
 
John W. Colby
Colby Consulting
www.ColbyConsulting.com
 


From bchacc at san.rr.com  Sat Nov 25 08:08:23 2006
From: bchacc at san.rr.com (Beach Access Software)
Date: Sat, 25 Nov 2006 06:08:23 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] Checking control property in an external mde database
Message-ID: <001501c7109b$2bb0f0a0$6401a8c0@HAL9005>

Dear List:

 

Is it possible to check the visible property of a control on a form in
another database which is an mde?  Would it be necessary to have that
database is currently open with that form opened?

 

MTIA

 

Rocky

 



From cjlabs at worldnet.att.net  Sat Nov 25 08:28:05 2006
From: cjlabs at worldnet.att.net (Carolyn Johnson)
Date: Sat, 25 Nov 2006 08:28:05 -0600
Subject: [AccessD] Cursor selects everything to the right
References: <000301c71084$e37d5dc0$657aa8c0@m6805>
Message-ID: <001c01c7109d$ecfb4ab0$0500a8c0@TOSHIBA>

I don't know if this is the same thing, but sometimes I apparently hit a key 
combination that turns on the "EXT" in the tray and the cursor shows similar 
behavior.

Hitting ESC stops it.

HTH,
Carolyn Johnson



----- Original Message ----- 
From: "JWColby" <jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com>
To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'" 
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Saturday, November 25, 2006 5:28 AM
Subject: [AccessD] Cursor selects everything to the right


>I have seen this before and managed to get rid of it but don't remember 
>how.
> In a query, the cursor is selecting everything to the right of the cursor,
> anywhere you place the cursor in query design.  Very annoying.
>
> Closing the db and re-opening makes it go away.  Does anyone know why this
> happens and how to get rid of it short of close / re-open.  I seem to
> remember it has something to do with the sticky keys stuff but I could be
> mistaken.
>
> John W. Colby
> Colby Consulting
> www.ColbyConsulting.com
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From pedro at plex.nl  Sat Nov 25 14:13:33 2006
From: pedro at plex.nl (Pedro Janssen)
Date: Sat, 25 Nov 2006 21:13:33 +0100
Subject: [AccessD] #Name?
References: <000a01c70f46$303203e0$4001a8c0@qmotionfaa3ad9>
	<45674B30.8080901@torchlake.com>
Message-ID: <001301c710ce$2f309950$4001a8c0@qmotionfaa3ad9>

Hello Tina,

it couldn't be the column-number, because there were three columns in the 
rowsource.
I think this form was corrupt, because when i imported the fields into a new 
form, the unbound field gave the exact value,

Pedro Janssen



----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Tina Norris Fields" <tinanfields at torchlake.com>
To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving" 
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Friday, November 24, 2006 8:42 PM
Subject: Re: [AccessD] #Name?


> Pedro,
> Column (0) instead of Column (1) maybe?
> Tina
>
> Pedro Janssen wrote:
>> Hello Group,
>>
>> i don't understand why i get: #Name?, in a textbox, when setting control 
>> source to:
>>
>> =[Forms]![frmFossielData]![txtEralID].[Column](1)
>>
>> The form, field en column exist.
>>
>> Pedro Janssen
>>
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From pedro at plex.nl  Sat Nov 25 14:36:43 2006
From: pedro at plex.nl (Pedro Janssen)
Date: Sat, 25 Nov 2006 21:36:43 +0100
Subject: [AccessD] saving values
References: <006101c71004$790c47b0$6401a8c0@HAL9005>
Message-ID: <000801c710d1$6d2810a0$4001a8c0@qmotionfaa3ad9>

Hello Rocky (and Others),

the code is working fine, but only for the first record on the form.
When i try to use it on the second record (after closing) it jumps to record 
one and overwrite's the data there.
Trying to put the where statement in it to state that ID = ID, it gives an 
error on record two that it expects parameter = 1.

The code that i use now:

Private Sub Form_Close()

Dim db As DAO.Database
Dim rs As DAO.Recordset

Set db = CurrentDb
Set rs = db.OpenRecordset("Select Era, Periode, Epoch, Etage, Tijd FROM 
tblFossielData")

rs.Edit
rs!Era = cboEra
rs!Periode = cboPeriode
rs!Epoch = cboEpoch
rs!Etage = cboEtage
rs!Tijd = cboTijd
rs.Update

rs.Close
db.Close

Set rs = Nothing
Set db = Nothing

Me.Requery

End Sub

What can i do about this?

Pedro Janssen






----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Beach Access Software" <bchacc at san.rr.com>
To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'" 
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Friday, November 24, 2006 9:09 PM
Subject: Re: [AccessD] saving values


> Pedro:
>
> Just off the top and untested:
>
> Dim db as DAO.Database
> Dim rs as DAO.Recordset
>
> Set db = CurrentDb
> Set rs = db.OpenRecordset("Select fldOne, fldTwo, fldThree FROM tblMyTable
> WHERE fldPK = " & lngPrimaryKey)
>
> ' Note: You could use any criteria you want in the WHERE clause; doesn't
> have to be the primary key.
>
> rs.Edit
> rs!fldOne = cboComboBox1
> rs!fldTwo = cboComboBox2
> rs!fldThree = cboComboBox3
> rs.Update
>
> rs.Close
> db.Close
>
> set rs = Nothing
> set db = Nothing
>
> Me.Requery (assuming you want the values to show on the bound form.
>
>
> Or here's another approach which I think should work but I haven't tested:
>
> Set db = CurrentDb
> Db.Execute "UPDATE tblMyTable SET tblMyTable.fldOne = '" & cboComboBox1 &
> "', tblMyTable.fldTwo= '" & cboComboBox2 & "', tblMyTable.fldThree = '" &
> cboComboBox3 & "';"
>
> Note that I have assumes that the values are string values and so need to
> have preceding and following apostrophes.  If the values are numeric then
> they won't need the '.
>
> I'm sure someone else looking at this code will make the appropriate
> corrections.
>
> Regards,
>
> Rocky
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Pedro Janssen
> Sent: Thursday, November 23, 2006 3:35 PM
> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] saving values
>
> Hello Rocky,
>
> could you give me an example of that, preferably in a example database.
> I have tried several things until now but nothing is working perfect.
>
> Pedro Janssen
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Beach Access Software" <bchacc at san.rr.com>
> To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'"
> <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
> Sent: Friday, November 24, 2006 12:07 AM
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] saving values
>
>
>> I'd use Dao, open the record in question, push the value in, and requery
>> the
>> form.
>>
>> Rocky
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Pedro Janssen
>> Sent: 23 November 2006 13:32
>> To: AccessD
>> Subject: [AccessD] saving values
>>
>> Hello Group,
>>
>> i still have troubles saving values from unbound comboxes (cascade) in
>> table
>> fields.
>>
>> What is the best way to do this.
>>
>> Pedro Janssen
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From bill_Patten at earthlink.net  Sat Nov 25 15:24:55 2006
From: bill_Patten at earthlink.net (Bill Patten)
Date: Sat, 25 Nov 2006 13:24:55 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] saving values
References: <006101c71004$790c47b0$6401a8c0@HAL9005>
	<000801c710d1$6d2810a0$4001a8c0@qmotionfaa3ad9>
Message-ID: <003701c710d8$27316f40$0202fea9@BPCS>

Pedro,

I haven't been following the thread, but perhaps you need an rs.addnew 
instead of rs.edit???

HTH

Bill
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Pedro Janssen" <pedro at plex.nl>
To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving" 
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Saturday, November 25, 2006 12:36 PM
Subject: Re: [AccessD] saving values


Hello Rocky (and Others),

the code is working fine, but only for the first record on the form.
When i try to use it on the second record (after closing) it jumps to record
one and overwrite's the data there.
Trying to put the where statement in it to state that ID = ID, it gives an
error on record two that it expects parameter = 1.

The code that i use now:

Private Sub Form_Close()

Dim db As DAO.Database
Dim rs As DAO.Recordset

Set db = CurrentDb
Set rs = db.OpenRecordset("Select Era, Periode, Epoch, Etage, Tijd FROM
tblFossielData")

rs.Edit
rs!Era = cboEra
rs!Periode = cboPeriode
rs!Epoch = cboEpoch
rs!Etage = cboEtage
rs!Tijd = cboTijd
rs.Update

rs.Close
db.Close

Set rs = Nothing
Set db = Nothing

Me.Requery

End Sub

What can i do about this?

Pedro Janssen






----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Beach Access Software" <bchacc at san.rr.com>
To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'"
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Friday, November 24, 2006 9:09 PM
Subject: Re: [AccessD] saving values


> Pedro:
>
> Just off the top and untested:
>
> Dim db as DAO.Database
> Dim rs as DAO.Recordset
>
> Set db = CurrentDb
> Set rs = db.OpenRecordset("Select fldOne, fldTwo, fldThree FROM tblMyTable
> WHERE fldPK = " & lngPrimaryKey)
>
> ' Note: You could use any criteria you want in the WHERE clause; doesn't
> have to be the primary key.
>
> rs.Edit
> rs!fldOne = cboComboBox1
> rs!fldTwo = cboComboBox2
> rs!fldThree = cboComboBox3
> rs.Update
>
> rs.Close
> db.Close
>
> set rs = Nothing
> set db = Nothing
>
> Me.Requery (assuming you want the values to show on the bound form.
>
>
> Or here's another approach which I think should work but I haven't tested:
>
> Set db = CurrentDb
> Db.Execute "UPDATE tblMyTable SET tblMyTable.fldOne = '" & cboComboBox1 &
> "', tblMyTable.fldTwo= '" & cboComboBox2 & "', tblMyTable.fldThree = '" &
> cboComboBox3 & "';"
>
> Note that I have assumes that the values are string values and so need to
> have preceding and following apostrophes.  If the values are numeric then
> they won't need the '.
>
> I'm sure someone else looking at this code will make the appropriate
> corrections.
>
> Regards,
>
> Rocky
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Pedro Janssen
> Sent: Thursday, November 23, 2006 3:35 PM
> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] saving values
>
> Hello Rocky,
>
> could you give me an example of that, preferably in a example database.
> I have tried several things until now but nothing is working perfect.
>
> Pedro Janssen
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Beach Access Software" <bchacc at san.rr.com>
> To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'"
> <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
> Sent: Friday, November 24, 2006 12:07 AM
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] saving values
>
>
>> I'd use Dao, open the record in question, push the value in, and requery
>> the
>> form.
>>
>> Rocky
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Pedro Janssen
>> Sent: 23 November 2006 13:32
>> To: AccessD
>> Subject: [AccessD] saving values
>>
>> Hello Group,
>>
>> i still have troubles saving values from unbound comboxes (cascade) in
>> table
>> fields.
>>
>> What is the best way to do this.
>>
>> Pedro Janssen
>> -- 
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>> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com
>>
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>> 22/11/2006
>> 17:41
>>
>>
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From bchacc at san.rr.com  Sat Nov 25 15:30:32 2006
From: bchacc at san.rr.com (Beach Access Software)
Date: Sat, 25 Nov 2006 13:30:32 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] saving values
In-Reply-To: <000801c710d1$6d2810a0$4001a8c0@qmotionfaa3ad9>
Message-ID: <006f01c710d8$effbdeb0$6401a8c0@HAL9005>

Pedro:

It looks like you are opening the table with all of the records.  So the
record pointer of the recor4dset is always pointing to the first record.
You need to either 1) use a WHERE clause in the Set rs = db.OpenRecordset so
you get only the record you want, or 2) after opening the recordset use
rs.FindFirst and specify the primary key of the record you want to update.
Then the recordset will be positioned at the record you want to update.  Be
sure to use if rs.NoMatch just in case the FindFirst doesn't find the
record.

Regards,

Rocky


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Pedro Janssen
Sent: Saturday, November 25, 2006 12:37 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] saving values

Hello Rocky (and Others),

the code is working fine, but only for the first record on the form.
When i try to use it on the second record (after closing) it jumps to record

one and overwrite's the data there.
Trying to put the where statement in it to state that ID = ID, it gives an 
error on record two that it expects parameter = 1.

The code that i use now:

Private Sub Form_Close()

Dim db As DAO.Database
Dim rs As DAO.Recordset

Set db = CurrentDb
Set rs = db.OpenRecordset("Select Era, Periode, Epoch, Etage, Tijd FROM 
tblFossielData")

rs.Edit
rs!Era = cboEra
rs!Periode = cboPeriode
rs!Epoch = cboEpoch
rs!Etage = cboEtage
rs!Tijd = cboTijd
rs.Update

rs.Close
db.Close

Set rs = Nothing
Set db = Nothing

Me.Requery

End Sub

What can i do about this?

Pedro Janssen






----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Beach Access Software" <bchacc at san.rr.com>
To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'" 
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Friday, November 24, 2006 9:09 PM
Subject: Re: [AccessD] saving values


> Pedro:
>
> Just off the top and untested:
>
> Dim db as DAO.Database
> Dim rs as DAO.Recordset
>
> Set db = CurrentDb
> Set rs = db.OpenRecordset("Select fldOne, fldTwo, fldThree FROM tblMyTable
> WHERE fldPK = " & lngPrimaryKey)
>
> ' Note: You could use any criteria you want in the WHERE clause; doesn't
> have to be the primary key.
>
> rs.Edit
> rs!fldOne = cboComboBox1
> rs!fldTwo = cboComboBox2
> rs!fldThree = cboComboBox3
> rs.Update
>
> rs.Close
> db.Close
>
> set rs = Nothing
> set db = Nothing
>
> Me.Requery (assuming you want the values to show on the bound form.
>
>
> Or here's another approach which I think should work but I haven't tested:
>
> Set db = CurrentDb
> Db.Execute "UPDATE tblMyTable SET tblMyTable.fldOne = '" & cboComboBox1 &
> "', tblMyTable.fldTwo= '" & cboComboBox2 & "', tblMyTable.fldThree = '" &
> cboComboBox3 & "';"
>
> Note that I have assumes that the values are string values and so need to
> have preceding and following apostrophes.  If the values are numeric then
> they won't need the '.
>
> I'm sure someone else looking at this code will make the appropriate
> corrections.
>
> Regards,
>
> Rocky
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Pedro Janssen
> Sent: Thursday, November 23, 2006 3:35 PM
> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] saving values
>
> Hello Rocky,
>
> could you give me an example of that, preferably in a example database.
> I have tried several things until now but nothing is working perfect.
>
> Pedro Janssen
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Beach Access Software" <bchacc at san.rr.com>
> To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'"
> <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
> Sent: Friday, November 24, 2006 12:07 AM
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] saving values
>
>
>> I'd use Dao, open the record in question, push the value in, and requery
>> the
>> form.
>>
>> Rocky
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Pedro Janssen
>> Sent: 23 November 2006 13:32
>> To: AccessD
>> Subject: [AccessD] saving values
>>
>> Hello Group,
>>
>> i still have troubles saving values from unbound comboxes (cascade) in
>> table
>> fields.
>>
>> What is the best way to do this.
>>
>> Pedro Janssen
>> -- 
>> AccessD mailing list
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>> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com
>>
>> -- 
>> No virus found in this incoming message.
>> Checked by AVG Free Edition.
>> Version: 7.5.430 / Virus Database: 268.14.14/547 - Release Date:
>> 22/11/2006
>> 17:41
>>
>>
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>
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From dwaters at usinternet.com  Sat Nov 25 15:53:42 2006
From: dwaters at usinternet.com (Dan Waters)
Date: Sat, 25 Nov 2006 15:53:42 -0600
Subject: [AccessD] #Name?
In-Reply-To: <25918643.1164486033513.JavaMail.root@sniper3>
Message-ID: <000201c710dc$2cd98190$0200a8c0@danwaters>

Pedro,

You appear to be referencing a textbox, which does not have a column
property.  Just reference the textbox without the column property.  A
textbox only has one column.

Dan Waters

-----Original Message-----
Subject: Re: [AccessD] #Name?

Hello Tina,

it couldn't be the column-number, because there were three columns in the 
rowsource.
I think this form was corrupt, because when i imported the fields into a new

form, the unbound field gave the exact value,

Pedro Janssen



----- Original Message ----- 
Subject: Re: [AccessD] #Name?


> Pedro,
> Column (0) instead of Column (1) maybe?
> Tina
>
> Pedro Janssen wrote:
>> Hello Group,
>>
>> i don't understand why i get: #Name?, in a textbox, when setting control 
>> source to:
>>
>> =[Forms]![frmFossielData]![txtEralID].[Column](1)
>>
>> The form, field en column exist.
>>
>> Pedro Janssen
>>
> -- 



From pedro at plex.nl  Sun Nov 26 04:30:30 2006
From: pedro at plex.nl (Pedro Janssen)
Date: Sun, 26 Nov 2006 11:30:30 +0100
Subject: [AccessD] saving values
References: <006f01c710d8$effbdeb0$6401a8c0@HAL9005>
Message-ID: <000801c71145$e5e2f360$4001a8c0@qmotionfaa3ad9>

Hello,

how would i point to the first record in the Where clausule with the ID?
I am placing values from a unbound form, with no ID in a bound form with an 
ID (= FossielID).


Please give me an idea to do this in the code below?

Pedro Janssen



----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Beach Access Software" <bchacc at san.rr.com>
To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'" 
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Saturday, November 25, 2006 10:30 PM
Subject: Re: [AccessD] saving values


> Pedro:
>
> It looks like you are opening the table with all of the records.  So the
> record pointer of the recor4dset is always pointing to the first record.
> You need to either 1) use a WHERE clause in the Set rs = db.OpenRecordset 
> so
> you get only the record you want, or 2) after opening the recordset use
> rs.FindFirst and specify the primary key of the record you want to update.
> Then the recordset will be positioned at the record you want to update. 
> Be
> sure to use if rs.NoMatch just in case the FindFirst doesn't find the
> record.
>
> Regards,
>
> Rocky
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Pedro Janssen
> Sent: Saturday, November 25, 2006 12:37 PM
> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] saving values
>
> Hello Rocky (and Others),
>
> the code is working fine, but only for the first record on the form.
> When i try to use it on the second record (after closing) it jumps to 
> record
>
> one and overwrite's the data there.
> Trying to put the where statement in it to state that ID = ID, it gives an
> error on record two that it expects parameter = 1.
>
> The code that i use now:
>
> Private Sub Form_Close()
>
> Dim db As DAO.Database
> Dim rs As DAO.Recordset
>
> Set db = CurrentDb
> Set rs = db.OpenRecordset("Select Era, Periode, Epoch, Etage, Tijd FROM
> tblFossielData")
>
> rs.Edit
> rs!Era = cboEra
> rs!Periode = cboPeriode
> rs!Epoch = cboEpoch
> rs!Etage = cboEtage
> rs!Tijd = cboTijd
> rs.Update
>
> rs.Close
> db.Close
>
> Set rs = Nothing
> Set db = Nothing
>
> Me.Requery
>
> End Sub
>
> What can i do about this?
>
> Pedro Janssen
>
>
>
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Beach Access Software" <bchacc at san.rr.com>
> To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'"
> <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
> Sent: Friday, November 24, 2006 9:09 PM
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] saving values
>
>
>> Pedro:
>>
>> Just off the top and untested:
>>
>> Dim db as DAO.Database
>> Dim rs as DAO.Recordset
>>
>> Set db = CurrentDb
>> Set rs = db.OpenRecordset("Select fldOne, fldTwo, fldThree FROM 
>> tblMyTable
>> WHERE fldPK = " & lngPrimaryKey)
>>
>> ' Note: You could use any criteria you want in the WHERE clause; doesn't
>> have to be the primary key.
>>
>> rs.Edit
>> rs!fldOne = cboComboBox1
>> rs!fldTwo = cboComboBox2
>> rs!fldThree = cboComboBox3
>> rs.Update
>>
>> rs.Close
>> db.Close
>>
>> set rs = Nothing
>> set db = Nothing
>>
>> Me.Requery (assuming you want the values to show on the bound form.
>>
>>
>> Or here's another approach which I think should work but I haven't 
>> tested:
>>
>> Set db = CurrentDb
>> Db.Execute "UPDATE tblMyTable SET tblMyTable.fldOne = '" & cboComboBox1 &
>> "', tblMyTable.fldTwo= '" & cboComboBox2 & "', tblMyTable.fldThree = '" &
>> cboComboBox3 & "';"
>>
>> Note that I have assumes that the values are string values and so need to
>> have preceding and following apostrophes.  If the values are numeric then
>> they won't need the '.
>>
>> I'm sure someone else looking at this code will make the appropriate
>> corrections.
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Rocky
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Pedro Janssen
>> Sent: Thursday, November 23, 2006 3:35 PM
>> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
>> Subject: Re: [AccessD] saving values
>>
>> Hello Rocky,
>>
>> could you give me an example of that, preferably in a example database.
>> I have tried several things until now but nothing is working perfect.
>>
>> Pedro Janssen
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Beach Access Software" <bchacc at san.rr.com>
>> To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'"
>> <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
>> Sent: Friday, November 24, 2006 12:07 AM
>> Subject: Re: [AccessD] saving values
>>
>>
>>> I'd use Dao, open the record in question, push the value in, and requery
>>> the
>>> form.
>>>
>>> Rocky
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>>> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Pedro Janssen
>>> Sent: 23 November 2006 13:32
>>> To: AccessD
>>> Subject: [AccessD] saving values
>>>
>>> Hello Group,
>>>
>>> i still have troubles saving values from unbound comboxes (cascade) in
>>> table
>>> fields.
>>>
>>> What is the best way to do this.
>>>
>>> Pedro Janssen
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From artful at rogers.com  Sun Nov 26 04:50:11 2006
From: artful at rogers.com (artful at rogers.com)
Date: Sun, 26 Nov 2006 02:50:11 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [AccessD] saving values
Message-ID: <20061126105011.26166.qmail@web88201.mail.re2.yahoo.com>

One approach is doing it with a static function, setting the value of said function with a form-event and then getting it from the code. Look in the archives for "static functions" for example code.

Arthur

----- Original Message ----
From: Pedro Janssen <pedro at plex.nl>
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Sunday, November 26, 2006 5:30:30 AM
Subject: Re: [AccessD] saving values

Hello,

how would i point to the first record in the Where clausule with the ID?
I am placing values from a unbound form, with no ID in a bound form with an 
ID (= FossielID).


Please give me an idea to do this in the code below?

Pedro Janssen



----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Beach Access Software" <bchacc at san.rr.com>
To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'" 
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Saturday, November 25, 2006 10:30 PM
Subject: Re: [AccessD] saving values


> Pedro:
>
> It looks like you are opening the table with all of the records.  So the
> record pointer of the recor4dset is always pointing to the first record.
> You need to either 1) use a WHERE clause in the Set rs = db.OpenRecordset 
> so
> you get only the record you want, or 2) after opening the recordset use
> rs.FindFirst and specify the primary key of the record you want to update.
> Then the recordset will be positioned at the record you want to update. 
> Be
> sure to use if rs.NoMatch just in case the FindFirst doesn't find the
> record.
>
> Regards,
>
> Rocky
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Pedro Janssen
> Sent: Saturday, November 25, 2006 12:37 PM
> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] saving values
>
> Hello Rocky (and Others),
>
> the code is working fine, but only for the first record on the form.
> When i try to use it on the second record (after closing) it jumps to 
> record
>
> one and overwrite's the data there.
> Trying to put the where statement in it to state that ID = ID, it gives an
> error on record two that it expects parameter = 1.
>
> The code that i use now:
>
> Private Sub Form_Close()
>
> Dim db As DAO.Database
> Dim rs As DAO.Recordset
>
> Set db = CurrentDb
> Set rs = db.OpenRecordset("Select Era, Periode, Epoch, Etage, Tijd FROM
> tblFossielData")
>
> rs.Edit
> rs!Era = cboEra
> rs!Periode = cboPeriode
> rs!Epoch = cboEpoch
> rs!Etage = cboEtage
> rs!Tijd = cboTijd
> rs.Update
>
> rs.Close
> db.Close
>
> Set rs = Nothing
> Set db = Nothing
>
> Me.Requery
>
> End Sub
>
> What can i do about this?
>
> Pedro Janssen
>
>
>
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Beach Access Software" <bchacc at san.rr.com>
> To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'"
> <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
> Sent: Friday, November 24, 2006 9:09 PM
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] saving values
>
>
>> Pedro:
>>
>> Just off the top and untested:
>>
>> Dim db as DAO.Database
>> Dim rs as DAO.Recordset
>>
>> Set db = CurrentDb
>> Set rs = db.OpenRecordset("Select fldOne, fldTwo, fldThree FROM 
>> tblMyTable
>> WHERE fldPK = " & lngPrimaryKey)
>>
>> ' Note: You could use any criteria you want in the WHERE clause; doesn't
>> have to be the primary key.
>>
>> rs.Edit
>> rs!fldOne = cboComboBox1
>> rs!fldTwo = cboComboBox2
>> rs!fldThree = cboComboBox3
>> rs.Update
>>
>> rs.Close
>> db.Close
>>
>> set rs = Nothing
>> set db = Nothing
>>
>> Me.Requery (assuming you want the values to show on the bound form.
>>
>>
>> Or here's another approach which I think should work but I haven't 
>> tested:
>>
>> Set db = CurrentDb
>> Db.Execute "UPDATE tblMyTable SET tblMyTable.fldOne = '" & cboComboBox1 &
>> "', tblMyTable.fldTwo= '" & cboComboBox2 & "', tblMyTable.fldThree = '" &
>> cboComboBox3 & "';"
>>
>> Note that I have assumes that the values are string values and so need to
>> have preceding and following apostrophes.  If the values are numeric then
>> they won't need the '.
>>
>> I'm sure someone else looking at this code will make the appropriate
>> corrections.
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Rocky
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Pedro Janssen
>> Sent: Thursday, November 23, 2006 3:35 PM
>> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
>> Subject: Re: [AccessD] saving values
>>
>> Hello Rocky,
>>
>> could you give me an example of that, preferably in a example database.
>> I have tried several things until now but nothing is working perfect.
>>
>> Pedro Janssen
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Beach Access Software" <bchacc at san.rr.com>
>> To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'"
>> <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
>> Sent: Friday, November 24, 2006 12:07 AM
>> Subject: Re: [AccessD] saving values
>>
>>
>>> I'd use Dao, open the record in question, push the value in, and requery
>>> the
>>> form.
>>>
>>> Rocky
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>>> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Pedro Janssen
>>> Sent: 23 November 2006 13:32
>>> To: AccessD
>>> Subject: [AccessD] saving values
>>>
>>> Hello Group,
>>>
>>> i still have troubles saving values from unbound comboxes (cascade) in
>>> table
>>> fields.
>>>
>>> What is the best way to do this.
>>>
>>> Pedro Janssen
>>> -- 
>>> AccessD mailing list
>>> AccessD at databaseadvisors.com
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>>> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com
>>>
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>>> Checked by AVG Free Edition.
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>>> 22/11/2006
>>> 17:41
>>>
>>>
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>>
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From pedro at plex.nl  Sun Nov 26 05:57:32 2006
From: pedro at plex.nl (Pedro Janssen)
Date: Sun, 26 Nov 2006 12:57:32 +0100
Subject: [AccessD] saving values
References: <20061126105011.26166.qmail@web88201.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <000e01c71152$0e1b2940$4001a8c0@qmotionfaa3ad9>

Hello Arthur,

in your first mail (at the archives) you gave this static function, but 
after a few reply's from others, you agreed to rewrite the template.
Have you done this? I can't find it.

Could you point me in the right direction with your template and my code 
below?

Thanks
Pedro Janssen



----- Original Message ----- 
From: <artful at rogers.com>
To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving" 
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Sunday, November 26, 2006 11:50 AM
Subject: Re: [AccessD] saving values


> One approach is doing it with a static function, setting the value of said 
> function with a form-event and then getting it from the code. Look in the 
> archives for "static functions" for example code.
>
> Arthur
>
> ----- Original Message ----
> From: Pedro Janssen <pedro at plex.nl>
> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving 
> <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
> Sent: Sunday, November 26, 2006 5:30:30 AM
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] saving values
>
> Hello,
>
> how would i point to the first record in the Where clausule with the ID?
> I am placing values from a unbound form, with no ID in a bound form with 
> an
> ID (= FossielID).
>
>
> Please give me an idea to do this in the code below?
>
> Pedro Janssen
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Beach Access Software" <bchacc at san.rr.com>
> To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'"
> <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
> Sent: Saturday, November 25, 2006 10:30 PM
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] saving values
>
>
>> Pedro:
>>
>> It looks like you are opening the table with all of the records.  So the
>> record pointer of the recor4dset is always pointing to the first record.
>> You need to either 1) use a WHERE clause in the Set rs = db.OpenRecordset
>> so
>> you get only the record you want, or 2) after opening the recordset use
>> rs.FindFirst and specify the primary key of the record you want to 
>> update.
>> Then the recordset will be positioned at the record you want to update.
>> Be
>> sure to use if rs.NoMatch just in case the FindFirst doesn't find the
>> record.
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Rocky
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Pedro Janssen
>> Sent: Saturday, November 25, 2006 12:37 PM
>> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
>> Subject: Re: [AccessD] saving values
>>
>> Hello Rocky (and Others),
>>
>> the code is working fine, but only for the first record on the form.
>> When i try to use it on the second record (after closing) it jumps to
>> record
>>
>> one and overwrite's the data there.
>> Trying to put the where statement in it to state that ID = ID, it gives 
>> an
>> error on record two that it expects parameter = 1.
>>
>> The code that i use now:
>>
>> Private Sub Form_Close()
>>
>> Dim db As DAO.Database
>> Dim rs As DAO.Recordset
>>
>> Set db = CurrentDb
>> Set rs = db.OpenRecordset("Select Era, Periode, Epoch, Etage, Tijd FROM
>> tblFossielData")
>>
>> rs.Edit
>> rs!Era = cboEra
>> rs!Periode = cboPeriode
>> rs!Epoch = cboEpoch
>> rs!Etage = cboEtage
>> rs!Tijd = cboTijd
>> rs.Update
>>
>> rs.Close
>> db.Close
>>
>> Set rs = Nothing
>> Set db = Nothing
>>
>> Me.Requery
>>
>> End Sub
>>
>> What can i do about this?
>>
>> Pedro Janssen
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Beach Access Software" <bchacc at san.rr.com>
>> To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'"
>> <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
>> Sent: Friday, November 24, 2006 9:09 PM
>> Subject: Re: [AccessD] saving values
>>
>>
>>> Pedro:
>>>
>>> Just off the top and untested:
>>>
>>> Dim db as DAO.Database
>>> Dim rs as DAO.Recordset
>>>
>>> Set db = CurrentDb
>>> Set rs = db.OpenRecordset("Select fldOne, fldTwo, fldThree FROM
>>> tblMyTable
>>> WHERE fldPK = " & lngPrimaryKey)
>>>
>>> ' Note: You could use any criteria you want in the WHERE clause; doesn't
>>> have to be the primary key.
>>>
>>> rs.Edit
>>> rs!fldOne = cboComboBox1
>>> rs!fldTwo = cboComboBox2
>>> rs!fldThree = cboComboBox3
>>> rs.Update
>>>
>>> rs.Close
>>> db.Close
>>>
>>> set rs = Nothing
>>> set db = Nothing
>>>
>>> Me.Requery (assuming you want the values to show on the bound form.
>>>
>>>
>>> Or here's another approach which I think should work but I haven't
>>> tested:
>>>
>>> Set db = CurrentDb
>>> Db.Execute "UPDATE tblMyTable SET tblMyTable.fldOne = '" & cboComboBox1 
>>> &
>>> "', tblMyTable.fldTwo= '" & cboComboBox2 & "', tblMyTable.fldThree = '" 
>>> &
>>> cboComboBox3 & "';"
>>>
>>> Note that I have assumes that the values are string values and so need 
>>> to
>>> have preceding and following apostrophes.  If the values are numeric 
>>> then
>>> they won't need the '.
>>>
>>> I'm sure someone else looking at this code will make the appropriate
>>> corrections.
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>>
>>> Rocky
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>>> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Pedro Janssen
>>> Sent: Thursday, November 23, 2006 3:35 PM
>>> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
>>> Subject: Re: [AccessD] saving values
>>>
>>> Hello Rocky,
>>>
>>> could you give me an example of that, preferably in a example database.
>>> I have tried several things until now but nothing is working perfect.
>>>
>>> Pedro Janssen
>>>
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>> From: "Beach Access Software" <bchacc at san.rr.com>
>>> To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'"
>>> <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
>>> Sent: Friday, November 24, 2006 12:07 AM
>>> Subject: Re: [AccessD] saving values
>>>
>>>
>>>> I'd use Dao, open the record in question, push the value in, and 
>>>> requery
>>>> the
>>>> form.
>>>>
>>>> Rocky
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>>>> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Pedro 
>>>> Janssen
>>>> Sent: 23 November 2006 13:32
>>>> To: AccessD
>>>> Subject: [AccessD] saving values
>>>>
>>>> Hello Group,
>>>>
>>>> i still have troubles saving values from unbound comboxes (cascade) in
>>>> table
>>>> fields.
>>>>
>>>> What is the best way to do this.
>>>>
>>>> Pedro Janssen
>>>> -- 
>>>> AccessD mailing list
>>>> AccessD at databaseadvisors.com
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>>>> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com
>>>>
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>>>> Checked by AVG Free Edition.
>>>> Version: 7.5.430 / Virus Database: 268.14.14/547 - Release Date:
>>>> 22/11/2006
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>>>>
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>>>
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From dwaters at usinternet.com  Sun Nov 26 15:38:10 2006
From: dwaters at usinternet.com (Dan Waters)
Date: Sun, 26 Nov 2006 15:38:10 -0600
Subject: [AccessD] Table Relationships
Message-ID: <000d01c711a3$2c4836a0$0200a8c0@danwaters>

I currently have some apparently 'ghost' tables in my table relationships
view.

For example I show tblPeopleMain_1 in addition to tblPeopleMain.  There is
no actual tblPeopleMain_1, but its ghost redisplays every time I reopen the
table relationships window.

How do I get rid of this?

Thanks!
Dan Waters



From stuart at lexacorp.com.pg  Sun Nov 26 15:51:01 2006
From: stuart at lexacorp.com.pg (Stuart McLachlan)
Date: Mon, 27 Nov 2006 07:51:01 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] Table Relationships
In-Reply-To: <000d01c711a3$2c4836a0$0200a8c0@danwaters>
References: <000d01c711a3$2c4836a0$0200a8c0@danwaters>
Message-ID: <456A0C45.22865.12B320D2@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>

On 26 Nov 2006 at 15:38, Dan Waters wrote:

> I currently have some apparently 'ghost' tables in my table relationships
> view.
> 
> For example I show tblPeopleMain_1 in addition to tblPeopleMain.  There is
> no actual tblPeopleMain_1, but its ghost redisplays every time I reopen the
> table relationships window.

That is just a second instance of tblPeopleMain which you have opened in 
the Relationships Window.  Just click on it and hit "Del".



 -- 
Stuart




From dwaters at usinternet.com  Sun Nov 26 18:39:57 2006
From: dwaters at usinternet.com (Dan Waters)
Date: Sun, 26 Nov 2006 18:39:57 -0600
Subject: [AccessD] Table Relationships
In-Reply-To: <25771870.1164578213478.JavaMail.root@Sniper26>
Message-ID: <001601c711bc$90c8a1a0$0200a8c0@danwaters>

Hi Stuart,

Well - I did that but the duplicate instances were there again after I
repaired, compacted & closed the database and reopened it.

Is there anything else that might work?  

Dan Waters


-----Original Message-----
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Table Relationships

On 26 Nov 2006 at 15:38, Dan Waters wrote:

> I currently have some apparently 'ghost' tables in my table relationships
> view.
> 
> For example I show tblPeopleMain_1 in addition to tblPeopleMain.  There is
> no actual tblPeopleMain_1, but its ghost redisplays every time I reopen
the
> table relationships window.

That is just a second instance of tblPeopleMain which you have opened in 
the Relationships Window.  Just click on it and hit "Del".



 -- 
Stuart




From gwsmith at iowatelecom.net  Sun Nov 26 18:52:32 2006
From: gwsmith at iowatelecom.net (Greg Smith)
Date: Sun, 26 Nov 2006 18:52:32 -0600
Subject: [AccessD] Table Relationships
In-Reply-To: <001601c711bc$90c8a1a0$0200a8c0@danwaters>
Message-ID: <001801c711be$54dfa5b0$6401a8c0@dads>

Dan:

Does the 'ghost' table have a relationship (or an apparent one)?  If so, you
may have to delete it first, then delete the ghost table, and then save the
relationships.  That's always gotten rid of the ones I occasionally get.

Greg 

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Dan Waters
Sent: Sunday, November 26, 2006 6:40 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Table Relationships

Hi Stuart,

Well - I did that but the duplicate instances were there again after I
repaired, compacted & closed the database and reopened it.

Is there anything else that might work?  

Dan Waters




From forefront at ig.com.br  Sun Nov 26 19:10:14 2006
From: forefront at ig.com.br (forefront)
Date: Sun, 26 Nov 2006 22:10:14 -0300
Subject: [AccessD] A2K - Disappearing menu and toolbar in Module Design
Message-ID: <20061127_011014_061812.forefront@ig.com.br>

Thanks for your answer, but now I know the problem. It is called Windows XP 
Starter Edition... :( 

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From bchacc at san.rr.com  Sun Nov 26 19:59:32 2006
From: bchacc at san.rr.com (Beach Access Software)
Date: Sun, 26 Nov 2006 17:59:32 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] saving values
In-Reply-To: <000801c71145$e5e2f360$4001a8c0@qmotionfaa3ad9>
Message-ID: <007a01c711c7$ae666a20$6401a8c0@HAL9005>

Pedro:

You need to add the WHERE clause to your set statement:

Set rs = db.OpenRecordset("Select Era, Periode, Epoch, Etage, Tijd FROM
tblFossielData WHERE tblFossielDataPrimaryKey = " & lngKeyValue)

Do you know what the primary key value is of the record you want to update
with the values from the unbound text boxes?

Rocky



-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Pedro Janssen
Sent: Sunday, November 26, 2006 2:31 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] saving values

Hello,

how would i point to the first record in the Where clausule with the ID?
I am placing values from a unbound form, with no ID in a bound form with an 
ID (= FossielID).


Please give me an idea to do this in the code below?

Pedro Janssen



----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Beach Access Software" <bchacc at san.rr.com>
To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'" 
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Saturday, November 25, 2006 10:30 PM
Subject: Re: [AccessD] saving values


> Pedro:
>
> It looks like you are opening the table with all of the records.  So the
> record pointer of the recor4dset is always pointing to the first record.
> You need to either 1) use a WHERE clause in the Set rs = db.OpenRecordset 
> so
> you get only the record you want, or 2) after opening the recordset use
> rs.FindFirst and specify the primary key of the record you want to update.
> Then the recordset will be positioned at the record you want to update. 
> Be
> sure to use if rs.NoMatch just in case the FindFirst doesn't find the
> record.
>
> Regards,
>
> Rocky
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Pedro Janssen
> Sent: Saturday, November 25, 2006 12:37 PM
> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] saving values
>
> Hello Rocky (and Others),
>
> the code is working fine, but only for the first record on the form.
> When i try to use it on the second record (after closing) it jumps to 
> record
>
> one and overwrite's the data there.
> Trying to put the where statement in it to state that ID = ID, it gives an
> error on record two that it expects parameter = 1.
>
> The code that i use now:
>
> Private Sub Form_Close()
>
> Dim db As DAO.Database
> Dim rs As DAO.Recordset
>
> Set db = CurrentDb
> Set rs = db.OpenRecordset("Select Era, Periode, Epoch, Etage, Tijd FROM
> tblFossielData")
>
> rs.Edit
> rs!Era = cboEra
> rs!Periode = cboPeriode
> rs!Epoch = cboEpoch
> rs!Etage = cboEtage
> rs!Tijd = cboTijd
> rs.Update
>
> rs.Close
> db.Close
>
> Set rs = Nothing
> Set db = Nothing
>
> Me.Requery
>
> End Sub
>
> What can i do about this?
>
> Pedro Janssen
>
>
>
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Beach Access Software" <bchacc at san.rr.com>
> To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'"
> <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
> Sent: Friday, November 24, 2006 9:09 PM
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] saving values
>
>
>> Pedro:
>>
>> Just off the top and untested:
>>
>> Dim db as DAO.Database
>> Dim rs as DAO.Recordset
>>
>> Set db = CurrentDb
>> Set rs = db.OpenRecordset("Select fldOne, fldTwo, fldThree FROM 
>> tblMyTable
>> WHERE fldPK = " & lngPrimaryKey)
>>
>> ' Note: You could use any criteria you want in the WHERE clause; doesn't
>> have to be the primary key.
>>
>> rs.Edit
>> rs!fldOne = cboComboBox1
>> rs!fldTwo = cboComboBox2
>> rs!fldThree = cboComboBox3
>> rs.Update
>>
>> rs.Close
>> db.Close
>>
>> set rs = Nothing
>> set db = Nothing
>>
>> Me.Requery (assuming you want the values to show on the bound form.
>>
>>
>> Or here's another approach which I think should work but I haven't 
>> tested:
>>
>> Set db = CurrentDb
>> Db.Execute "UPDATE tblMyTable SET tblMyTable.fldOne = '" & cboComboBox1 &
>> "', tblMyTable.fldTwo= '" & cboComboBox2 & "', tblMyTable.fldThree = '" &
>> cboComboBox3 & "';"
>>
>> Note that I have assumes that the values are string values and so need to
>> have preceding and following apostrophes.  If the values are numeric then
>> they won't need the '.
>>
>> I'm sure someone else looking at this code will make the appropriate
>> corrections.
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Rocky
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Pedro Janssen
>> Sent: Thursday, November 23, 2006 3:35 PM
>> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
>> Subject: Re: [AccessD] saving values
>>
>> Hello Rocky,
>>
>> could you give me an example of that, preferably in a example database.
>> I have tried several things until now but nothing is working perfect.
>>
>> Pedro Janssen
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Beach Access Software" <bchacc at san.rr.com>
>> To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'"
>> <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
>> Sent: Friday, November 24, 2006 12:07 AM
>> Subject: Re: [AccessD] saving values
>>
>>
>>> I'd use Dao, open the record in question, push the value in, and requery
>>> the
>>> form.
>>>
>>> Rocky
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>>> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Pedro Janssen
>>> Sent: 23 November 2006 13:32
>>> To: AccessD
>>> Subject: [AccessD] saving values
>>>
>>> Hello Group,
>>>
>>> i still have troubles saving values from unbound comboxes (cascade) in
>>> table
>>> fields.
>>>
>>> What is the best way to do this.
>>>
>>> Pedro Janssen
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From dwaters at usinternet.com  Sun Nov 26 20:06:53 2006
From: dwaters at usinternet.com (Dan Waters)
Date: Sun, 26 Nov 2006 20:06:53 -0600
Subject: [AccessD] Table Relationships
In-Reply-To: <13278171.1164588993796.JavaMail.root@sniper11>
Message-ID: <000301c711c8$b5cf46a0$0200a8c0@danwaters>

That was it!

Thanks Greg - I was getting a little spooked!

Dan Waters

-----Original Message-----
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Table Relationships

Dan:

Does the 'ghost' table have a relationship (or an apparent one)?  If so, you
may have to delete it first, then delete the ghost table, and then save the
relationships.  That's always gotten rid of the ones I occasionally get.

Greg 

-----Original Message-----
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Table Relationships

Hi Stuart,

Well - I did that but the duplicate instances were there again after I
repaired, compacted & closed the database and reopened it.

Is there anything else that might work?  

Dan Waters




From Gustav at cactus.dk  Mon Nov 27 02:25:04 2006
From: Gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Mon, 27 Nov 2006 09:25:04 +0100
Subject: [AccessD] Table Relationships
Message-ID: <s56aaf03.036@cactus.dk>

Hi

Maybe. 
It was not a "ghost" table. If you had more than one relation to a table, the second and third are by default named _1, _2 and so on. 
Now that second relation is lost. 

/gustav

>>> dwaters at usinternet.com 27-11-2006 03:06 >>>
That was it!

Thanks Greg - I was getting a little spooked!

Dan Waters

-----Original Message-----
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Table Relationships

Dan:

Does the 'ghost' table have a relationship (or an apparent one)?  If so, you
may have to delete it first, then delete the ghost table, and then save the
relationships.  That's always gotten rid of the ones I occasionally get.

Greg 



From pedro at plex.nl  Mon Nov 27 08:54:37 2006
From: pedro at plex.nl (Pedro Janssen)
Date: Mon, 27 Nov 2006 15:54:37 +0100
Subject: [AccessD] saving values
References: <007a01c711c7$ae666a20$6401a8c0@HAL9005>
Message-ID: <000601c71233$f5d900e0$4001a8c0@qmotionfaa3ad9>

Hello Rocky,

i included the Where statement, but get an eror when closing the subform 
with the code:
Runtime error 3201, no current record.
When clicking debug button, rs!edit is highlited yellow.

I used help, but still do not understand it.

Pedro Janssen




----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Beach Access Software" <bchacc at san.rr.com>
To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'" 
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Monday, November 27, 2006 2:59 AM
Subject: Re: [AccessD] saving values


> Pedro:
>
> You need to add the WHERE clause to your set statement:
>
> Set rs = db.OpenRecordset("Select Era, Periode, Epoch, Etage, Tijd FROM
> tblFossielData WHERE tblFossielDataPrimaryKey = " & lngKeyValue)
>
> Do you know what the primary key value is of the record you want to update
> with the values from the unbound text boxes?
>
> Rocky
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Pedro Janssen
> Sent: Sunday, November 26, 2006 2:31 AM
> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] saving values
>
> Hello,
>
> how would i point to the first record in the Where clausule with the ID?
> I am placing values from a unbound form, with no ID in a bound form with 
> an
> ID (= FossielID).
>
>
> Please give me an idea to do this in the code below?
>
> Pedro Janssen
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Beach Access Software" <bchacc at san.rr.com>
> To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'"
> <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
> Sent: Saturday, November 25, 2006 10:30 PM
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] saving values
>
>
>> Pedro:
>>
>> It looks like you are opening the table with all of the records.  So the
>> record pointer of the recor4dset is always pointing to the first record.
>> You need to either 1) use a WHERE clause in the Set rs = db.OpenRecordset
>> so
>> you get only the record you want, or 2) after opening the recordset use
>> rs.FindFirst and specify the primary key of the record you want to 
>> update.
>> Then the recordset will be positioned at the record you want to update.
>> Be
>> sure to use if rs.NoMatch just in case the FindFirst doesn't find the
>> record.
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Rocky
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Pedro Janssen
>> Sent: Saturday, November 25, 2006 12:37 PM
>> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
>> Subject: Re: [AccessD] saving values
>>
>> Hello Rocky (and Others),
>>
>> the code is working fine, but only for the first record on the form.
>> When i try to use it on the second record (after closing) it jumps to
>> record
>>
>> one and overwrite's the data there.
>> Trying to put the where statement in it to state that ID = ID, it gives 
>> an
>> error on record two that it expects parameter = 1.
>>
>> The code that i use now:
>>
>> Private Sub Form_Close()
>>
>> Dim db As DAO.Database
>> Dim rs As DAO.Recordset
>>
>> Set db = CurrentDb
>> Set rs = db.OpenRecordset("Select Era, Periode, Epoch, Etage, Tijd FROM
>> tblFossielData")
>>
>> rs.Edit
>> rs!Era = cboEra
>> rs!Periode = cboPeriode
>> rs!Epoch = cboEpoch
>> rs!Etage = cboEtage
>> rs!Tijd = cboTijd
>> rs.Update
>>
>> rs.Close
>> db.Close
>>
>> Set rs = Nothing
>> Set db = Nothing
>>
>> Me.Requery
>>
>> End Sub
>>
>> What can i do about this?
>>
>> Pedro Janssen
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Beach Access Software" <bchacc at san.rr.com>
>> To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'"
>> <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
>> Sent: Friday, November 24, 2006 9:09 PM
>> Subject: Re: [AccessD] saving values
>>
>>
>>> Pedro:
>>>
>>> Just off the top and untested:
>>>
>>> Dim db as DAO.Database
>>> Dim rs as DAO.Recordset
>>>
>>> Set db = CurrentDb
>>> Set rs = db.OpenRecordset("Select fldOne, fldTwo, fldThree FROM
>>> tblMyTable
>>> WHERE fldPK = " & lngPrimaryKey)
>>>
>>> ' Note: You could use any criteria you want in the WHERE clause; doesn't
>>> have to be the primary key.
>>>
>>> rs.Edit
>>> rs!fldOne = cboComboBox1
>>> rs!fldTwo = cboComboBox2
>>> rs!fldThree = cboComboBox3
>>> rs.Update
>>>
>>> rs.Close
>>> db.Close
>>>
>>> set rs = Nothing
>>> set db = Nothing
>>>
>>> Me.Requery (assuming you want the values to show on the bound form.
>>>
>>>
>>> Or here's another approach which I think should work but I haven't
>>> tested:
>>>
>>> Set db = CurrentDb
>>> Db.Execute "UPDATE tblMyTable SET tblMyTable.fldOne = '" & cboComboBox1 
>>> &
>>> "', tblMyTable.fldTwo= '" & cboComboBox2 & "', tblMyTable.fldThree = '" 
>>> &
>>> cboComboBox3 & "';"
>>>
>>> Note that I have assumes that the values are string values and so need 
>>> to
>>> have preceding and following apostrophes.  If the values are numeric 
>>> then
>>> they won't need the '.
>>>
>>> I'm sure someone else looking at this code will make the appropriate
>>> corrections.
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>>
>>> Rocky
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>>> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Pedro Janssen
>>> Sent: Thursday, November 23, 2006 3:35 PM
>>> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
>>> Subject: Re: [AccessD] saving values
>>>
>>> Hello Rocky,
>>>
>>> could you give me an example of that, preferably in a example database.
>>> I have tried several things until now but nothing is working perfect.
>>>
>>> Pedro Janssen
>>>
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>> From: "Beach Access Software" <bchacc at san.rr.com>
>>> To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'"
>>> <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
>>> Sent: Friday, November 24, 2006 12:07 AM
>>> Subject: Re: [AccessD] saving values
>>>
>>>
>>>> I'd use Dao, open the record in question, push the value in, and 
>>>> requery
>>>> the
>>>> form.
>>>>
>>>> Rocky
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>>>> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Pedro 
>>>> Janssen
>>>> Sent: 23 November 2006 13:32
>>>> To: AccessD
>>>> Subject: [AccessD] saving values
>>>>
>>>> Hello Group,
>>>>
>>>> i still have troubles saving values from unbound comboxes (cascade) in
>>>> table
>>>> fields.
>>>>
>>>> What is the best way to do this.
>>>>
>>>> Pedro Janssen
>>>> -- 
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>>>> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com
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From dwaters at usinternet.com  Mon Nov 27 09:04:37 2006
From: dwaters at usinternet.com (Dan Waters)
Date: Mon, 27 Nov 2006 09:04:37 -0600
Subject: [AccessD] Table Relationships
In-Reply-To: <32464957.1164616329996.JavaMail.root@sniper25>
Message-ID: <001401c71235$5b9dbfa0$0200a8c0@danwaters>

Thanks Gustav - that's good to know.

With what I was looking at, it was truly a duplicate relationship and was
not needed.

Dan Waters

-----Original Message-----
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Table Relationships

Hi

Maybe. 
It was not a "ghost" table. If you had more than one relation to a table,
the second and third are by default named _1, _2 and so on. 
Now that second relation is lost. 

/gustav

>>> dwaters at usinternet.com 27-11-2006 03:06 >>>
That was it!

Thanks Greg - I was getting a little spooked!

Dan Waters

-----Original Message-----
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Table Relationships

Dan:

Does the 'ghost' table have a relationship (or an apparent one)?  If so, you
may have to delete it first, then delete the ghost table, and then save the
relationships.  That's always gotten rid of the ones I occasionally get.

Greg 




From dwaters at usinternet.com  Mon Nov 27 09:27:34 2006
From: dwaters at usinternet.com (Dan Waters)
Date: Mon, 27 Nov 2006 09:27:34 -0600
Subject: [AccessD] saving values
In-Reply-To: <12132737.1164640754292.JavaMail.root@Sniper26>
Message-ID: <004301c71238$9057a500$0200a8c0@danwaters>

Try rs.edit instead of rs!edit.

Dan Waters


-----Original Message-----
Subject: Re: [AccessD] saving values

Hello Rocky,

i included the Where statement, but get an eror when closing the subform 
with the code:
Runtime error 3201, no current record.
When clicking debug button, rs!edit is highlited yellow.

I used help, but still do not understand it.

Pedro Janssen




----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Beach Access Software" <bchacc at san.rr.com>
To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'" 
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Monday, November 27, 2006 2:59 AM
Subject: Re: [AccessD] saving values


> Pedro:
>
> You need to add the WHERE clause to your set statement:
>
> Set rs = db.OpenRecordset("Select Era, Periode, Epoch, Etage, Tijd FROM
> tblFossielData WHERE tblFossielDataPrimaryKey = " & lngKeyValue)
>
> Do you know what the primary key value is of the record you want to update
> with the values from the unbound text boxes?
>
> Rocky
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Pedro Janssen
> Sent: Sunday, November 26, 2006 2:31 AM
> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] saving values
>
> Hello,
>
> how would i point to the first record in the Where clausule with the ID?
> I am placing values from a unbound form, with no ID in a bound form with 
> an
> ID (= FossielID).
>
>
> Please give me an idea to do this in the code below?
>
> Pedro Janssen
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Beach Access Software" <bchacc at san.rr.com>
> To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'"
> <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
> Sent: Saturday, November 25, 2006 10:30 PM
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] saving values
>
>
>> Pedro:
>>
>> It looks like you are opening the table with all of the records.  So the
>> record pointer of the recor4dset is always pointing to the first record.
>> You need to either 1) use a WHERE clause in the Set rs = db.OpenRecordset
>> so
>> you get only the record you want, or 2) after opening the recordset use
>> rs.FindFirst and specify the primary key of the record you want to 
>> update.
>> Then the recordset will be positioned at the record you want to update.
>> Be
>> sure to use if rs.NoMatch just in case the FindFirst doesn't find the
>> record.
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Rocky
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Pedro Janssen
>> Sent: Saturday, November 25, 2006 12:37 PM
>> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
>> Subject: Re: [AccessD] saving values
>>
>> Hello Rocky (and Others),
>>
>> the code is working fine, but only for the first record on the form.
>> When i try to use it on the second record (after closing) it jumps to
>> record
>>
>> one and overwrite's the data there.
>> Trying to put the where statement in it to state that ID = ID, it gives 
>> an
>> error on record two that it expects parameter = 1.
>>
>> The code that i use now:
>>
>> Private Sub Form_Close()
>>
>> Dim db As DAO.Database
>> Dim rs As DAO.Recordset
>>
>> Set db = CurrentDb
>> Set rs = db.OpenRecordset("Select Era, Periode, Epoch, Etage, Tijd FROM
>> tblFossielData")
>>
>> rs.Edit
>> rs!Era = cboEra
>> rs!Periode = cboPeriode
>> rs!Epoch = cboEpoch
>> rs!Etage = cboEtage
>> rs!Tijd = cboTijd
>> rs.Update
>>
>> rs.Close
>> db.Close
>>
>> Set rs = Nothing
>> Set db = Nothing
>>
>> Me.Requery
>>
>> End Sub
>>
>> What can i do about this?
>>
>> Pedro Janssen
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Beach Access Software" <bchacc at san.rr.com>
>> To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'"
>> <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
>> Sent: Friday, November 24, 2006 9:09 PM
>> Subject: Re: [AccessD] saving values
>>
>>
>>> Pedro:
>>>
>>> Just off the top and untested:
>>>
>>> Dim db as DAO.Database
>>> Dim rs as DAO.Recordset
>>>
>>> Set db = CurrentDb
>>> Set rs = db.OpenRecordset("Select fldOne, fldTwo, fldThree FROM
>>> tblMyTable
>>> WHERE fldPK = " & lngPrimaryKey)
>>>
>>> ' Note: You could use any criteria you want in the WHERE clause; doesn't
>>> have to be the primary key.
>>>
>>> rs.Edit
>>> rs!fldOne = cboComboBox1
>>> rs!fldTwo = cboComboBox2
>>> rs!fldThree = cboComboBox3
>>> rs.Update
>>>
>>> rs.Close
>>> db.Close
>>>
>>> set rs = Nothing
>>> set db = Nothing
>>>
>>> Me.Requery (assuming you want the values to show on the bound form.
>>>
>>>
>>> Or here's another approach which I think should work but I haven't
>>> tested:
>>>
>>> Set db = CurrentDb
>>> Db.Execute "UPDATE tblMyTable SET tblMyTable.fldOne = '" & cboComboBox1 
>>> &
>>> "', tblMyTable.fldTwo= '" & cboComboBox2 & "', tblMyTable.fldThree = '" 
>>> &
>>> cboComboBox3 & "';"
>>>
>>> Note that I have assumes that the values are string values and so need 
>>> to
>>> have preceding and following apostrophes.  If the values are numeric 
>>> then
>>> they won't need the '.
>>>
>>> I'm sure someone else looking at this code will make the appropriate
>>> corrections.
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>>
>>> Rocky
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>>> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Pedro Janssen
>>> Sent: Thursday, November 23, 2006 3:35 PM
>>> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
>>> Subject: Re: [AccessD] saving values
>>>
>>> Hello Rocky,
>>>
>>> could you give me an example of that, preferably in a example database.
>>> I have tried several things until now but nothing is working perfect.
>>>
>>> Pedro Janssen
>>>
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>> From: "Beach Access Software" <bchacc at san.rr.com>
>>> To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'"
>>> <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
>>> Sent: Friday, November 24, 2006 12:07 AM
>>> Subject: Re: [AccessD] saving values
>>>
>>>
>>>> I'd use Dao, open the record in question, push the value in, and 
>>>> requery
>>>> the
>>>> form.
>>>>
>>>> Rocky
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
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>>>> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Pedro 
>>>> Janssen
>>>> Sent: 23 November 2006 13:32
>>>> To: AccessD
>>>> Subject: [AccessD] saving values
>>>>
>>>> Hello Group,
>>>>
>>>> i still have troubles saving values from unbound comboxes (cascade) in
>>>> table
>>>> fields.
>>>>
>>>> What is the best way to do this.
>>>>
>>>> Pedro Janssen
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From bchacc at san.rr.com  Mon Nov 27 09:39:55 2006
From: bchacc at san.rr.com (Beach Access Software)
Date: Mon, 27 Nov 2006 07:39:55 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] saving values
In-Reply-To: <000601c71233$f5d900e0$4001a8c0@qmotionfaa3ad9>
Message-ID: <001101c7123a$49d88c00$6401a8c0@HAL9005>

Pedro:

Just a guess but perhaps using the WHERE clause returns no records because
the value for the PK you're using is invalid.

After the set rs = statement put

	If rs.bof=true and rs.eof=true then 
		Msgbox "Holy Moly!  There's No Records In Here!!! - " &
lngKeyValue
		Exit sub
	End if

To see if that's the case and what the value is of the key you're apssing.

Post the set rs = statement and let's have a look at it.

Regards,

Rocky


If it is then 
-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Pedro Janssen
Sent: Monday, November 27, 2006 6:55 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] saving values

Hello Rocky,

i included the Where statement, but get an eror when closing the subform 
with the code:
Runtime error 3201, no current record.
When clicking debug button, rs!edit is highlited yellow.

I used help, but still do not understand it.

Pedro Janssen




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From: "Beach Access Software" <bchacc at san.rr.com>
To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'" 
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Monday, November 27, 2006 2:59 AM
Subject: Re: [AccessD] saving values


> Pedro:
>
> You need to add the WHERE clause to your set statement:
>
> Set rs = db.OpenRecordset("Select Era, Periode, Epoch, Etage, Tijd FROM
> tblFossielData WHERE tblFossielDataPrimaryKey = " & lngKeyValue)
>
> Do you know what the primary key value is of the record you want to update
> with the values from the unbound text boxes?
>
> Rocky
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Pedro Janssen
> Sent: Sunday, November 26, 2006 2:31 AM
> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] saving values
>
> Hello,
>
> how would i point to the first record in the Where clausule with the ID?
> I am placing values from a unbound form, with no ID in a bound form with 
> an
> ID (= FossielID).
>
>
> Please give me an idea to do this in the code below?
>
> Pedro Janssen
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Beach Access Software" <bchacc at san.rr.com>
> To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'"
> <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
> Sent: Saturday, November 25, 2006 10:30 PM
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] saving values
>
>
>> Pedro:
>>
>> It looks like you are opening the table with all of the records.  So the
>> record pointer of the recor4dset is always pointing to the first record.
>> You need to either 1) use a WHERE clause in the Set rs = db.OpenRecordset
>> so
>> you get only the record you want, or 2) after opening the recordset use
>> rs.FindFirst and specify the primary key of the record you want to 
>> update.
>> Then the recordset will be positioned at the record you want to update.
>> Be
>> sure to use if rs.NoMatch just in case the FindFirst doesn't find the
>> record.
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Rocky
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Pedro Janssen
>> Sent: Saturday, November 25, 2006 12:37 PM
>> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
>> Subject: Re: [AccessD] saving values
>>
>> Hello Rocky (and Others),
>>
>> the code is working fine, but only for the first record on the form.
>> When i try to use it on the second record (after closing) it jumps to
>> record
>>
>> one and overwrite's the data there.
>> Trying to put the where statement in it to state that ID = ID, it gives 
>> an
>> error on record two that it expects parameter = 1.
>>
>> The code that i use now:
>>
>> Private Sub Form_Close()
>>
>> Dim db As DAO.Database
>> Dim rs As DAO.Recordset
>>
>> Set db = CurrentDb
>> Set rs = db.OpenRecordset("Select Era, Periode, Epoch, Etage, Tijd FROM
>> tblFossielData")
>>
>> rs.Edit
>> rs!Era = cboEra
>> rs!Periode = cboPeriode
>> rs!Epoch = cboEpoch
>> rs!Etage = cboEtage
>> rs!Tijd = cboTijd
>> rs.Update
>>
>> rs.Close
>> db.Close
>>
>> Set rs = Nothing
>> Set db = Nothing
>>
>> Me.Requery
>>
>> End Sub
>>
>> What can i do about this?
>>
>> Pedro Janssen
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Beach Access Software" <bchacc at san.rr.com>
>> To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'"
>> <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
>> Sent: Friday, November 24, 2006 9:09 PM
>> Subject: Re: [AccessD] saving values
>>
>>
>>> Pedro:
>>>
>>> Just off the top and untested:
>>>
>>> Dim db as DAO.Database
>>> Dim rs as DAO.Recordset
>>>
>>> Set db = CurrentDb
>>> Set rs = db.OpenRecordset("Select fldOne, fldTwo, fldThree FROM
>>> tblMyTable
>>> WHERE fldPK = " & lngPrimaryKey)
>>>
>>> ' Note: You could use any criteria you want in the WHERE clause; doesn't
>>> have to be the primary key.
>>>
>>> rs.Edit
>>> rs!fldOne = cboComboBox1
>>> rs!fldTwo = cboComboBox2
>>> rs!fldThree = cboComboBox3
>>> rs.Update
>>>
>>> rs.Close
>>> db.Close
>>>
>>> set rs = Nothing
>>> set db = Nothing
>>>
>>> Me.Requery (assuming you want the values to show on the bound form.
>>>
>>>
>>> Or here's another approach which I think should work but I haven't
>>> tested:
>>>
>>> Set db = CurrentDb
>>> Db.Execute "UPDATE tblMyTable SET tblMyTable.fldOne = '" & cboComboBox1 
>>> &
>>> "', tblMyTable.fldTwo= '" & cboComboBox2 & "', tblMyTable.fldThree = '" 
>>> &
>>> cboComboBox3 & "';"
>>>
>>> Note that I have assumes that the values are string values and so need 
>>> to
>>> have preceding and following apostrophes.  If the values are numeric 
>>> then
>>> they won't need the '.
>>>
>>> I'm sure someone else looking at this code will make the appropriate
>>> corrections.
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>>
>>> Rocky
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>>> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Pedro Janssen
>>> Sent: Thursday, November 23, 2006 3:35 PM
>>> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
>>> Subject: Re: [AccessD] saving values
>>>
>>> Hello Rocky,
>>>
>>> could you give me an example of that, preferably in a example database.
>>> I have tried several things until now but nothing is working perfect.
>>>
>>> Pedro Janssen
>>>
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>> From: "Beach Access Software" <bchacc at san.rr.com>
>>> To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'"
>>> <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
>>> Sent: Friday, November 24, 2006 12:07 AM
>>> Subject: Re: [AccessD] saving values
>>>
>>>
>>>> I'd use Dao, open the record in question, push the value in, and 
>>>> requery
>>>> the
>>>> form.
>>>>
>>>> Rocky
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>>>> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Pedro 
>>>> Janssen
>>>> Sent: 23 November 2006 13:32
>>>> To: AccessD
>>>> Subject: [AccessD] saving values
>>>>
>>>> Hello Group,
>>>>
>>>> i still have troubles saving values from unbound comboxes (cascade) in
>>>> table
>>>> fields.
>>>>
>>>> What is the best way to do this.
>>>>
>>>> Pedro Janssen
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From gwsmith at iowatelecom.net  Mon Nov 27 11:40:51 2006
From: gwsmith at iowatelecom.net (gwsmith at iowatelecom.net)
Date: Mon, 27 Nov 2006 11:40:51 -0600 (CST)
Subject: [AccessD]  XML Import Sample File
In-Reply-To: <004301c71238$9057a500$0200a8c0@danwaters>
References: <12132737.1164640754292.JavaMail.root@Sniper26>
	<004301c71238$9057a500$0200a8c0@danwaters>
Message-ID: <1520.65.118.249.214.1164649251.squirrel@webmail.iowatelecom.net>

Shamil:

Thanks again for the sample file code, by the way.

The first two functions, XmlImportTest1() and XmlImportTest2() both work
just fine.  However, when I try to test XmlImportTest3() or
XmlImportTest4(), I get the following error:

  Run Time Error '429'
  Active X Component Can't Create Object

and the following line of code is highlighted as the culprit:

  obj.ImportData CurrentDb, "Shippers", Array _
    ("CompanyName", "Phone"), mcstrXml1FullPath2

where ...FullPath1 is for ...Test3() and ...FullPath2 is for ...Test4().

I have the sneaky feeling I don't have something installed or properly
referenced, but I'm not sure what.

Any suggestions?

Thanks!

Greg Smith



From bheygood at abestsystems.com  Mon Nov 27 13:23:49 2006
From: bheygood at abestsystems.com (Bob Heygood)
Date: Mon, 27 Nov 2006 11:23:49 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] DAO Fiekd Name String/Variable
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Hello to the list,

I woild like to:
1. get a value from one table as a string
2. lookup the value of a field in a second table 
where the field name = the value of field in table 1
Using !s if possible.

TIA

best 


Bob



From Jim.Hale at FleetPride.com  Mon Nov 27 13:46:54 2006
From: Jim.Hale at FleetPride.com (Hale, Jim)
Date: Mon, 27 Nov 2006 13:46:54 -0600
Subject: [AccessD] Excel Import
Message-ID: <6A6AA9DF57E4F046BDA1E273BDDB67727DE125@corp-es01.fleetpride.com>

Sorry, I was out for the week. Here is the secret to using dynamic ranges.
HTH
Jim Hale
http://www.ozgrid.com/Excel/DynamicRanges.htm

-----Original Message-----
From: McGillivray, Don [IT] [mailto:Donald.A.McGillivray at sprint.com]
Sent: Monday, November 20, 2006 5:31 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Excel Import


True, but the inserted rows need to be ABOVE the last row in the existing
range in order for this to work, no?  Not such a big deal if you're adding a
row or two, but when adding large blocks of data, it can be a pain to insert
exactly (or slightly more than) the number or rows you want before adding
the data.  You definitely don't want to insert fewer than you will need.

I seem to remember somebody (Gustav?) posting some code a few months back
that managed the dynamic expansion of a named range in Excel.  Don't
remember how it worked, or anything else about it, but it looked like a
useful thing for situations like this.  Does that ring a bell with anybody
else?

Don

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Susan Harkins
Sent: Monday, November 20, 2006 3:12 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Excel Import

If you insert a new row at the bottom of the range, you don't have to
redefine the range -- Excel does it for you automatically. You could come up
with a macro that does the work for you. I swear, I wrote about that, but
I'd never find it now. But, here's how it would go -- you'd enter a record,
press Ctrl+I or some other keyboard hot key combination to imitate a macro
that would insert a new row at the bottom of the range and position your
cursor at the first cell in the new row -- that way, Excel is constantly
extending the range. 

Susan H. 

Thanks.  This worked.  Although, for an ongoing process...I can just see me
forgetting to re-define my range...and not uploading all the proper data.
:(  For now, however...this worked.  :)


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From pedro at plex.nl  Mon Nov 27 13:50:37 2006
From: pedro at plex.nl (Pedro Janssen)
Date: Mon, 27 Nov 2006 20:50:37 +0100
Subject: [AccessD] saving values
References: <001101c7123a$49d88c00$6401a8c0@HAL9005>
Message-ID: <003d01c7125d$4f725560$4001a8c0@qmotionfaa3ad9>

Hello Rocky,

the message that is get back is "Holy Moly!  There's No Records In Here!!! - 
0

That is strange, because in record two the FossielID (Primary Key of the 
table) value is 2 (auto Number field).

Ik could sent you the small test.mdb,
maybe you have seen the problem then in a minute?

Pedro Janssen


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From: "Beach Access Software" <bchacc at san.rr.com>
To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'" 
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Monday, November 27, 2006 4:39 PM
Subject: Re: [AccessD] saving values


> Pedro:
>
> Just a guess but perhaps using the WHERE clause returns no records because
> the value for the PK you're using is invalid.
>
> After the set rs = statement put
>
> If rs.bof=true and rs.eof=true then
> Msgbox "Holy Moly!  There's No Records In Here!!! - " &
> lngKeyValue
> Exit sub
> End if
>
> To see if that's the case and what the value is of the key you're apssing.
>
> Post the set rs = statement and let's have a look at it.
>
> Regards,
>
> Rocky
>
>
> If it is then
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Pedro Janssen
> Sent: Monday, November 27, 2006 6:55 AM
> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] saving values
>
> Hello Rocky,
>
> i included the Where statement, but get an eror when closing the subform
> with the code:
> Runtime error 3201, no current record.
> When clicking debug button, rs!edit is highlited yellow.
>
> I used help, but still do not understand it.
>
> Pedro Janssen
>
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Beach Access Software" <bchacc at san.rr.com>
> To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'"
> <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
> Sent: Monday, November 27, 2006 2:59 AM
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] saving values
>
>
>> Pedro:
>>
>> You need to add the WHERE clause to your set statement:
>>
>> Set rs = db.OpenRecordset("Select Era, Periode, Epoch, Etage, Tijd FROM
>> tblFossielData WHERE tblFossielDataPrimaryKey = " & lngKeyValue)
>>
>> Do you know what the primary key value is of the record you want to 
>> update
>> with the values from the unbound text boxes?
>>
>> Rocky
>>
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Pedro Janssen
>> Sent: Sunday, November 26, 2006 2:31 AM
>> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
>> Subject: Re: [AccessD] saving values
>>
>> Hello,
>>
>> how would i point to the first record in the Where clausule with the ID?
>> I am placing values from a unbound form, with no ID in a bound form with
>> an
>> ID (= FossielID).
>>
>>
>> Please give me an idea to do this in the code below?
>>
>> Pedro Janssen
>>
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Beach Access Software" <bchacc at san.rr.com>
>> To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'"
>> <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
>> Sent: Saturday, November 25, 2006 10:30 PM
>> Subject: Re: [AccessD] saving values
>>
>>
>>> Pedro:
>>>
>>> It looks like you are opening the table with all of the records.  So the
>>> record pointer of the recor4dset is always pointing to the first record.
>>> You need to either 1) use a WHERE clause in the Set rs = 
>>> db.OpenRecordset
>>> so
>>> you get only the record you want, or 2) after opening the recordset use
>>> rs.FindFirst and specify the primary key of the record you want to
>>> update.
>>> Then the recordset will be positioned at the record you want to update.
>>> Be
>>> sure to use if rs.NoMatch just in case the FindFirst doesn't find the
>>> record.
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>>
>>> Rocky
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>>> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Pedro Janssen
>>> Sent: Saturday, November 25, 2006 12:37 PM
>>> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
>>> Subject: Re: [AccessD] saving values
>>>
>>> Hello Rocky (and Others),
>>>
>>> the code is working fine, but only for the first record on the form.
>>> When i try to use it on the second record (after closing) it jumps to
>>> record
>>>
>>> one and overwrite's the data there.
>>> Trying to put the where statement in it to state that ID = ID, it gives
>>> an
>>> error on record two that it expects parameter = 1.
>>>
>>> The code that i use now:
>>>
>>> Private Sub Form_Close()
>>>
>>> Dim db As DAO.Database
>>> Dim rs As DAO.Recordset
>>>
>>> Set db = CurrentDb
>>> Set rs = db.OpenRecordset("Select Era, Periode, Epoch, Etage, Tijd FROM
>>> tblFossielData")
>>>
>>> rs.Edit
>>> rs!Era = cboEra
>>> rs!Periode = cboPeriode
>>> rs!Epoch = cboEpoch
>>> rs!Etage = cboEtage
>>> rs!Tijd = cboTijd
>>> rs.Update
>>>
>>> rs.Close
>>> db.Close
>>>
>>> Set rs = Nothing
>>> Set db = Nothing
>>>
>>> Me.Requery
>>>
>>> End Sub
>>>
>>> What can i do about this?
>>>
>>> Pedro Janssen
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>> From: "Beach Access Software" <bchacc at san.rr.com>
>>> To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'"
>>> <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
>>> Sent: Friday, November 24, 2006 9:09 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [AccessD] saving values
>>>
>>>
>>>> Pedro:
>>>>
>>>> Just off the top and untested:
>>>>
>>>> Dim db as DAO.Database
>>>> Dim rs as DAO.Recordset
>>>>
>>>> Set db = CurrentDb
>>>> Set rs = db.OpenRecordset("Select fldOne, fldTwo, fldThree FROM
>>>> tblMyTable
>>>> WHERE fldPK = " & lngPrimaryKey)
>>>>
>>>> ' Note: You could use any criteria you want in the WHERE clause; 
>>>> doesn't
>>>> have to be the primary key.
>>>>
>>>> rs.Edit
>>>> rs!fldOne = cboComboBox1
>>>> rs!fldTwo = cboComboBox2
>>>> rs!fldThree = cboComboBox3
>>>> rs.Update
>>>>
>>>> rs.Close
>>>> db.Close
>>>>
>>>> set rs = Nothing
>>>> set db = Nothing
>>>>
>>>> Me.Requery (assuming you want the values to show on the bound form.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Or here's another approach which I think should work but I haven't
>>>> tested:
>>>>
>>>> Set db = CurrentDb
>>>> Db.Execute "UPDATE tblMyTable SET tblMyTable.fldOne = '" & cboComboBox1
>>>> &
>>>> "', tblMyTable.fldTwo= '" & cboComboBox2 & "', tblMyTable.fldThree = '"
>>>> &
>>>> cboComboBox3 & "';"
>>>>
>>>> Note that I have assumes that the values are string values and so need
>>>> to
>>>> have preceding and following apostrophes.  If the values are numeric
>>>> then
>>>> they won't need the '.
>>>>
>>>> I'm sure someone else looking at this code will make the appropriate
>>>> corrections.
>>>>
>>>> Regards,
>>>>
>>>> Rocky
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>>>> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Pedro 
>>>> Janssen
>>>> Sent: Thursday, November 23, 2006 3:35 PM
>>>> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
>>>> Subject: Re: [AccessD] saving values
>>>>
>>>> Hello Rocky,
>>>>
>>>> could you give me an example of that, preferably in a example database.
>>>> I have tried several things until now but nothing is working perfect.
>>>>
>>>> Pedro Janssen
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>>> From: "Beach Access Software" <bchacc at san.rr.com>
>>>> To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'"
>>>> <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
>>>> Sent: Friday, November 24, 2006 12:07 AM
>>>> Subject: Re: [AccessD] saving values
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> I'd use Dao, open the record in question, push the value in, and
>>>>> requery
>>>>> the
>>>>> form.
>>>>>
>>>>> Rocky
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>>>>> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Pedro
>>>>> Janssen
>>>>> Sent: 23 November 2006 13:32
>>>>> To: AccessD
>>>>> Subject: [AccessD] saving values
>>>>>
>>>>> Hello Group,
>>>>>
>>>>> i still have troubles saving values from unbound comboxes (cascade) in
>>>>> table
>>>>> fields.
>>>>>
>>>>> What is the best way to do this.
>>>>>
>>>>> Pedro Janssen
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From bchacc at san.rr.com  Mon Nov 27 14:19:55 2006
From: bchacc at san.rr.com (Beach Access Software)
Date: Mon, 27 Nov 2006 12:19:55 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] DAO Field Name String/Variable
In-Reply-To: <AIEKKBIAKDJNAFGABNJKIEMLGOAA.bheygood@abestsystems.com>
Message-ID: <005601c71261$678510d0$6401a8c0@HAL9005>

So table one contains the field names of table 2?

Rocky

P.S. Swing by my office with your laptop and I'll do it for you on the spot
(yes I have an ulterior motive).


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[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Bob Heygood
Sent: Monday, November 27, 2006 11:24 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: [AccessD] DAO Fiekd Name String/Variable

Hello to the list,

I woild like to:
1. get a value from one table as a string
2. lookup the value of a field in a second table 
where the field name = the value of field in table 1
Using !s if possible.

TIA

best 


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From bchacc at san.rr.com  Mon Nov 27 14:21:50 2006
From: bchacc at san.rr.com (Beach Access Software)
Date: Mon, 27 Nov 2006 12:21:50 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] saving values
In-Reply-To: <003d01c7125d$4f725560$4001a8c0@qmotionfaa3ad9>
Message-ID: <005701c71261$ac5f4180$6401a8c0@HAL9005>

Sure, send it over.  But perhaps you are using my air code for the search
key - lngKeyValue - instead of your primary key value in FossielID? The
message tells me that you are using the value 0 in the WHERE clause.

Rocky


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Pedro Janssen
Sent: Monday, November 27, 2006 11:51 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] saving values

Hello Rocky,

the message that is get back is "Holy Moly!  There's No Records In Here!!! -

0

That is strange, because in record two the FossielID (Primary Key of the 
table) value is 2 (auto Number field).

Ik could sent you the small test.mdb,
maybe you have seen the problem then in a minute?

Pedro Janssen


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Beach Access Software" <bchacc at san.rr.com>
To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'" 
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Monday, November 27, 2006 4:39 PM
Subject: Re: [AccessD] saving values


> Pedro:
>
> Just a guess but perhaps using the WHERE clause returns no records because
> the value for the PK you're using is invalid.
>
> After the set rs = statement put
>
> If rs.bof=true and rs.eof=true then
> Msgbox "Holy Moly!  There's No Records In Here!!! - " &
> lngKeyValue
> Exit sub
> End if
>
> To see if that's the case and what the value is of the key you're apssing.
>
> Post the set rs = statement and let's have a look at it.
>
> Regards,
>
> Rocky
>
>
> If it is then
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Pedro Janssen
> Sent: Monday, November 27, 2006 6:55 AM
> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] saving values
>
> Hello Rocky,
>
> i included the Where statement, but get an eror when closing the subform
> with the code:
> Runtime error 3201, no current record.
> When clicking debug button, rs!edit is highlited yellow.
>
> I used help, but still do not understand it.
>
> Pedro Janssen
>
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Beach Access Software" <bchacc at san.rr.com>
> To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'"
> <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
> Sent: Monday, November 27, 2006 2:59 AM
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] saving values
>
>
>> Pedro:
>>
>> You need to add the WHERE clause to your set statement:
>>
>> Set rs = db.OpenRecordset("Select Era, Periode, Epoch, Etage, Tijd FROM
>> tblFossielData WHERE tblFossielDataPrimaryKey = " & lngKeyValue)
>>
>> Do you know what the primary key value is of the record you want to 
>> update
>> with the values from the unbound text boxes?
>>
>> Rocky
>>
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Pedro Janssen
>> Sent: Sunday, November 26, 2006 2:31 AM
>> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
>> Subject: Re: [AccessD] saving values
>>
>> Hello,
>>
>> how would i point to the first record in the Where clausule with the ID?
>> I am placing values from a unbound form, with no ID in a bound form with
>> an
>> ID (= FossielID).
>>
>>
>> Please give me an idea to do this in the code below?
>>
>> Pedro Janssen
>>
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Beach Access Software" <bchacc at san.rr.com>
>> To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'"
>> <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
>> Sent: Saturday, November 25, 2006 10:30 PM
>> Subject: Re: [AccessD] saving values
>>
>>
>>> Pedro:
>>>
>>> It looks like you are opening the table with all of the records.  So the
>>> record pointer of the recor4dset is always pointing to the first record.
>>> You need to either 1) use a WHERE clause in the Set rs = 
>>> db.OpenRecordset
>>> so
>>> you get only the record you want, or 2) after opening the recordset use
>>> rs.FindFirst and specify the primary key of the record you want to
>>> update.
>>> Then the recordset will be positioned at the record you want to update.
>>> Be
>>> sure to use if rs.NoMatch just in case the FindFirst doesn't find the
>>> record.
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>>
>>> Rocky
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>>> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Pedro Janssen
>>> Sent: Saturday, November 25, 2006 12:37 PM
>>> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
>>> Subject: Re: [AccessD] saving values
>>>
>>> Hello Rocky (and Others),
>>>
>>> the code is working fine, but only for the first record on the form.
>>> When i try to use it on the second record (after closing) it jumps to
>>> record
>>>
>>> one and overwrite's the data there.
>>> Trying to put the where statement in it to state that ID = ID, it gives
>>> an
>>> error on record two that it expects parameter = 1.
>>>
>>> The code that i use now:
>>>
>>> Private Sub Form_Close()
>>>
>>> Dim db As DAO.Database
>>> Dim rs As DAO.Recordset
>>>
>>> Set db = CurrentDb
>>> Set rs = db.OpenRecordset("Select Era, Periode, Epoch, Etage, Tijd FROM
>>> tblFossielData")
>>>
>>> rs.Edit
>>> rs!Era = cboEra
>>> rs!Periode = cboPeriode
>>> rs!Epoch = cboEpoch
>>> rs!Etage = cboEtage
>>> rs!Tijd = cboTijd
>>> rs.Update
>>>
>>> rs.Close
>>> db.Close
>>>
>>> Set rs = Nothing
>>> Set db = Nothing
>>>
>>> Me.Requery
>>>
>>> End Sub
>>>
>>> What can i do about this?
>>>
>>> Pedro Janssen
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>> From: "Beach Access Software" <bchacc at san.rr.com>
>>> To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'"
>>> <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
>>> Sent: Friday, November 24, 2006 9:09 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [AccessD] saving values
>>>
>>>
>>>> Pedro:
>>>>
>>>> Just off the top and untested:
>>>>
>>>> Dim db as DAO.Database
>>>> Dim rs as DAO.Recordset
>>>>
>>>> Set db = CurrentDb
>>>> Set rs = db.OpenRecordset("Select fldOne, fldTwo, fldThree FROM
>>>> tblMyTable
>>>> WHERE fldPK = " & lngPrimaryKey)
>>>>
>>>> ' Note: You could use any criteria you want in the WHERE clause; 
>>>> doesn't
>>>> have to be the primary key.
>>>>
>>>> rs.Edit
>>>> rs!fldOne = cboComboBox1
>>>> rs!fldTwo = cboComboBox2
>>>> rs!fldThree = cboComboBox3
>>>> rs.Update
>>>>
>>>> rs.Close
>>>> db.Close
>>>>
>>>> set rs = Nothing
>>>> set db = Nothing
>>>>
>>>> Me.Requery (assuming you want the values to show on the bound form.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Or here's another approach which I think should work but I haven't
>>>> tested:
>>>>
>>>> Set db = CurrentDb
>>>> Db.Execute "UPDATE tblMyTable SET tblMyTable.fldOne = '" & cboComboBox1
>>>> &
>>>> "', tblMyTable.fldTwo= '" & cboComboBox2 & "', tblMyTable.fldThree = '"
>>>> &
>>>> cboComboBox3 & "';"
>>>>
>>>> Note that I have assumes that the values are string values and so need
>>>> to
>>>> have preceding and following apostrophes.  If the values are numeric
>>>> then
>>>> they won't need the '.
>>>>
>>>> I'm sure someone else looking at this code will make the appropriate
>>>> corrections.
>>>>
>>>> Regards,
>>>>
>>>> Rocky
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>>>> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Pedro 
>>>> Janssen
>>>> Sent: Thursday, November 23, 2006 3:35 PM
>>>> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
>>>> Subject: Re: [AccessD] saving values
>>>>
>>>> Hello Rocky,
>>>>
>>>> could you give me an example of that, preferably in a example database.
>>>> I have tried several things until now but nothing is working perfect.
>>>>
>>>> Pedro Janssen
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>>> From: "Beach Access Software" <bchacc at san.rr.com>
>>>> To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'"
>>>> <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
>>>> Sent: Friday, November 24, 2006 12:07 AM
>>>> Subject: Re: [AccessD] saving values
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> I'd use Dao, open the record in question, push the value in, and
>>>>> requery
>>>>> the
>>>>> form.
>>>>>
>>>>> Rocky
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>>>>> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Pedro
>>>>> Janssen
>>>>> Sent: 23 November 2006 13:32
>>>>> To: AccessD
>>>>> Subject: [AccessD] saving values
>>>>>
>>>>> Hello Group,
>>>>>
>>>>> i still have troubles saving values from unbound comboxes (cascade) in
>>>>> table
>>>>> fields.
>>>>>
>>>>> What is the best way to do this.
>>>>>
>>>>> Pedro Janssen
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From shamil at users.mns.ru  Mon Nov 27 14:37:26 2006
From: shamil at users.mns.ru (Shamil Salakhetdinov)
Date: Mon, 27 Nov 2006 23:37:26 +0300
Subject: [AccessD] [Access-D]  XML Import Sample File
In-Reply-To: <1520.65.118.249.214.1164649251.squirrel@webmail.iowatelecom.net>
Message-ID: <000301c71263$e1763070$6401a8c0@nant>

Hello Greg,

Try to change reference to MSXML v.4.0 or above....

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Sent: Monday, November 27, 2006 8:41 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: [AccessD] XML Import Sample File

Shamil:

Thanks again for the sample file code, by the way.

The first two functions, XmlImportTest1() and XmlImportTest2() both work
just fine.  However, when I try to test XmlImportTest3() or
XmlImportTest4(), I get the following error:

  Run Time Error '429'
  Active X Component Can't Create Object

and the following line of code is highlighted as the culprit:

  obj.ImportData CurrentDb, "Shippers", Array _
    ("CompanyName", "Phone"), mcstrXml1FullPath2

where ...FullPath1 is for ...Test3() and ...FullPath2 is for ...Test4().

I have the sneaky feeling I don't have something installed or properly
referenced, but I'm not sure what.

Any suggestions?

Thanks!

Greg Smith

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From martyconnelly at shaw.ca  Mon Nov 27 15:52:36 2006
From: martyconnelly at shaw.ca (MartyConnelly)
Date: Mon, 27 Nov 2006 13:52:36 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] [Access-D]  XML Import Sample File
In-Reply-To: <000301c71263$e1763070$6401a8c0@nant>
References: <000301c71263$e1763070$6401a8c0@nant>
Message-ID: <456B5E24.6@shaw.ca>

You might want to grab MSXML 4.0 SP2,  mostly security fixes.
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyID=3144b72b-b4f2-46da-b4b6-c5d7485f2b42&DisplayLang=en#Requirements

MSXML 3.0 is up to SP 7, this runs with OS below Win2000

There are versions  MSXML 5.0 and  6.0 but I only need for advanced 
XPath standards and XLINQ
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyID=993c0bcf-3bcf-4009-be21-27e85e1857b1&DisplayLang=en#Requirements

Shamil Salakhetdinov wrote:

>Hello Greg,
>
>Try to change reference to MSXML v.4.0 or above....
>
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> 
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of
>gwsmith at iowatelecom.net
>Sent: Monday, November 27, 2006 8:41 PM
>To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
>Subject: [AccessD] XML Import Sample File
>
>Shamil:
>
>Thanks again for the sample file code, by the way.
>
>The first two functions, XmlImportTest1() and XmlImportTest2() both work
>just fine.  However, when I try to test XmlImportTest3() or
>XmlImportTest4(), I get the following error:
>
>  Run Time Error '429'
>  Active X Component Can't Create Object
>
>and the following line of code is highlighted as the culprit:
>
>  obj.ImportData CurrentDb, "Shippers", Array _
>    ("CompanyName", "Phone"), mcstrXml1FullPath2
>
>where ...FullPath1 is for ...Test3() and ...FullPath2 is for ...Test4().
>
>I have the sneaky feeling I don't have something installed or properly
>referenced, but I'm not sure what.
>
>Any suggestions?
>
>Thanks!
>
>Greg Smith
>
>  
>

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From gwsmith at iowatelecom.net  Mon Nov 27 15:53:42 2006
From: gwsmith at iowatelecom.net (Greg Smith)
Date: Mon, 27 Nov 2006 15:53:42 -0600 (CST)
Subject: [AccessD] [Access-D]  XML Import Sample File
In-Reply-To: <000301c71263$e1763070$6401a8c0@nant>
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	<000301c71263$e1763070$6401a8c0@nant>
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Hi Shamil:

I'm currently set at MSXML 6 (MSXML6.dll).

Greg

> Hello Greg,
>
> Try to change reference to MSXML v.4.0 or above....
>
> --
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>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of
> gwsmith at iowatelecom.net
> Sent: Monday, November 27, 2006 8:41 PM
> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> Subject: [AccessD] XML Import Sample File
>
> Shamil:
>
> Thanks again for the sample file code, by the way.
>
> The first two functions, XmlImportTest1() and XmlImportTest2() both work
> just fine.  However, when I try to test XmlImportTest3() or
> XmlImportTest4(), I get the following error:
>
>   Run Time Error '429'
>   Active X Component Can't Create Object
>
> and the following line of code is highlighted as the culprit:
>
>   obj.ImportData CurrentDb, "Shippers", Array _
>     ("CompanyName", "Phone"), mcstrXml1FullPath2
>
> where ...FullPath1 is for ...Test3() and ...FullPath2 is for ...Test4().
>
> I have the sneaky feeling I don't have something installed or properly
> referenced, but I'm not sure what.
>
> Any suggestions?
>
> Thanks!
>
> Greg Smith
>



From bheygood at abestsystems.com  Mon Nov 27 16:20:14 2006
From: bheygood at abestsystems.com (Bob Heygood)
Date: Mon, 27 Nov 2006 14:20:14 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] DAO Field Name String/Variable
In-Reply-To: <005601c71261$678510d0$6401a8c0@HAL9005>
Message-ID: <AIEKKBIAKDJNAFGABNJKAENBGOAA.bheygood@abestsystems.com>

in my example the field names are in table 1.

Sorry i'm Vegas working on a laptop.....
Will visit soon.

bob




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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Beach Access
Software
Sent: Monday, November 27, 2006 12:20 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: Re: [AccessD] DAO Field Name String/Variable


So table one contains the field names of table 2?

Rocky

P.S. Swing by my office with your laptop and I'll do it for you on the spot
(yes I have an ulterior motive).


-----Original Message-----
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Sent: Monday, November 27, 2006 11:24 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: [AccessD] DAO Fiekd Name String/Variable

Hello to the list,

I woild like to:
1. get a value from one table as a string
2. lookup the value of a field in a second table 
where the field name = the value of field in table 1
Using !s if possible.

TIA

best 


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From bchacc at san.rr.com  Mon Nov 27 16:31:17 2006
From: bchacc at san.rr.com (Beach Access Software)
Date: Mon, 27 Nov 2006 14:31:17 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] saving values
In-Reply-To: <003d01c7125d$4f725560$4001a8c0@qmotionfaa3ad9>
Message-ID: <002301c71273$c1dfd800$6401a8c0@HAL9005>

Pedro:

You are using my variable name lngKeyValue for the criterion in the WHERE
clause to limit the recordset to the one record you are looking for.  You
should use the value of the field from the combo box, instead.  

And I'm not clear on what you're trying to store or what the relationship is
between the two tables.  So I can't be more precise.  

Tell me again the user process and what you're trying to accomplish.

Regards,

Rocky


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Pedro Janssen
Sent: Monday, November 27, 2006 11:51 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] saving values

Hello Rocky,

the message that is get back is "Holy Moly!  There's No Records In Here!!! -

0

That is strange, because in record two the FossielID (Primary Key of the 
table) value is 2 (auto Number field).

Ik could sent you the small test.mdb,
maybe you have seen the problem then in a minute?

Pedro Janssen


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From: "Beach Access Software" <bchacc at san.rr.com>
To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'" 
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Monday, November 27, 2006 4:39 PM
Subject: Re: [AccessD] saving values


> Pedro:
>
> Just a guess but perhaps using the WHERE clause returns no records because
> the value for the PK you're using is invalid.
>
> After the set rs = statement put
>
> If rs.bof=true and rs.eof=true then
> Msgbox "Holy Moly!  There's No Records In Here!!! - " &
> lngKeyValue
> Exit sub
> End if
>
> To see if that's the case and what the value is of the key you're apssing.
>
> Post the set rs = statement and let's have a look at it.
>
> Regards,
>
> Rocky
>
>
> If it is then
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Pedro Janssen
> Sent: Monday, November 27, 2006 6:55 AM
> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] saving values
>
> Hello Rocky,
>
> i included the Where statement, but get an eror when closing the subform
> with the code:
> Runtime error 3201, no current record.
> When clicking debug button, rs!edit is highlited yellow.
>
> I used help, but still do not understand it.
>
> Pedro Janssen
>
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Beach Access Software" <bchacc at san.rr.com>
> To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'"
> <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
> Sent: Monday, November 27, 2006 2:59 AM
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] saving values
>
>
>> Pedro:
>>
>> You need to add the WHERE clause to your set statement:
>>
>> Set rs = db.OpenRecordset("Select Era, Periode, Epoch, Etage, Tijd FROM
>> tblFossielData WHERE tblFossielDataPrimaryKey = " & lngKeyValue)
>>
>> Do you know what the primary key value is of the record you want to 
>> update
>> with the values from the unbound text boxes?
>>
>> Rocky
>>
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Pedro Janssen
>> Sent: Sunday, November 26, 2006 2:31 AM
>> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
>> Subject: Re: [AccessD] saving values
>>
>> Hello,
>>
>> how would i point to the first record in the Where clausule with the ID?
>> I am placing values from a unbound form, with no ID in a bound form with
>> an
>> ID (= FossielID).
>>
>>
>> Please give me an idea to do this in the code below?
>>
>> Pedro Janssen
>>
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Beach Access Software" <bchacc at san.rr.com>
>> To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'"
>> <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
>> Sent: Saturday, November 25, 2006 10:30 PM
>> Subject: Re: [AccessD] saving values
>>
>>
>>> Pedro:
>>>
>>> It looks like you are opening the table with all of the records.  So the
>>> record pointer of the recor4dset is always pointing to the first record.
>>> You need to either 1) use a WHERE clause in the Set rs = 
>>> db.OpenRecordset
>>> so
>>> you get only the record you want, or 2) after opening the recordset use
>>> rs.FindFirst and specify the primary key of the record you want to
>>> update.
>>> Then the recordset will be positioned at the record you want to update.
>>> Be
>>> sure to use if rs.NoMatch just in case the FindFirst doesn't find the
>>> record.
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>>
>>> Rocky
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>>> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Pedro Janssen
>>> Sent: Saturday, November 25, 2006 12:37 PM
>>> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
>>> Subject: Re: [AccessD] saving values
>>>
>>> Hello Rocky (and Others),
>>>
>>> the code is working fine, but only for the first record on the form.
>>> When i try to use it on the second record (after closing) it jumps to
>>> record
>>>
>>> one and overwrite's the data there.
>>> Trying to put the where statement in it to state that ID = ID, it gives
>>> an
>>> error on record two that it expects parameter = 1.
>>>
>>> The code that i use now:
>>>
>>> Private Sub Form_Close()
>>>
>>> Dim db As DAO.Database
>>> Dim rs As DAO.Recordset
>>>
>>> Set db = CurrentDb
>>> Set rs = db.OpenRecordset("Select Era, Periode, Epoch, Etage, Tijd FROM
>>> tblFossielData")
>>>
>>> rs.Edit
>>> rs!Era = cboEra
>>> rs!Periode = cboPeriode
>>> rs!Epoch = cboEpoch
>>> rs!Etage = cboEtage
>>> rs!Tijd = cboTijd
>>> rs.Update
>>>
>>> rs.Close
>>> db.Close
>>>
>>> Set rs = Nothing
>>> Set db = Nothing
>>>
>>> Me.Requery
>>>
>>> End Sub
>>>
>>> What can i do about this?
>>>
>>> Pedro Janssen
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>> From: "Beach Access Software" <bchacc at san.rr.com>
>>> To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'"
>>> <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
>>> Sent: Friday, November 24, 2006 9:09 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [AccessD] saving values
>>>
>>>
>>>> Pedro:
>>>>
>>>> Just off the top and untested:
>>>>
>>>> Dim db as DAO.Database
>>>> Dim rs as DAO.Recordset
>>>>
>>>> Set db = CurrentDb
>>>> Set rs = db.OpenRecordset("Select fldOne, fldTwo, fldThree FROM
>>>> tblMyTable
>>>> WHERE fldPK = " & lngPrimaryKey)
>>>>
>>>> ' Note: You could use any criteria you want in the WHERE clause; 
>>>> doesn't
>>>> have to be the primary key.
>>>>
>>>> rs.Edit
>>>> rs!fldOne = cboComboBox1
>>>> rs!fldTwo = cboComboBox2
>>>> rs!fldThree = cboComboBox3
>>>> rs.Update
>>>>
>>>> rs.Close
>>>> db.Close
>>>>
>>>> set rs = Nothing
>>>> set db = Nothing
>>>>
>>>> Me.Requery (assuming you want the values to show on the bound form.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Or here's another approach which I think should work but I haven't
>>>> tested:
>>>>
>>>> Set db = CurrentDb
>>>> Db.Execute "UPDATE tblMyTable SET tblMyTable.fldOne = '" & cboComboBox1
>>>> &
>>>> "', tblMyTable.fldTwo= '" & cboComboBox2 & "', tblMyTable.fldThree = '"
>>>> &
>>>> cboComboBox3 & "';"
>>>>
>>>> Note that I have assumes that the values are string values and so need
>>>> to
>>>> have preceding and following apostrophes.  If the values are numeric
>>>> then
>>>> they won't need the '.
>>>>
>>>> I'm sure someone else looking at this code will make the appropriate
>>>> corrections.
>>>>
>>>> Regards,
>>>>
>>>> Rocky
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>>>> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Pedro 
>>>> Janssen
>>>> Sent: Thursday, November 23, 2006 3:35 PM
>>>> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
>>>> Subject: Re: [AccessD] saving values
>>>>
>>>> Hello Rocky,
>>>>
>>>> could you give me an example of that, preferably in a example database.
>>>> I have tried several things until now but nothing is working perfect.
>>>>
>>>> Pedro Janssen
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>>> From: "Beach Access Software" <bchacc at san.rr.com>
>>>> To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'"
>>>> <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
>>>> Sent: Friday, November 24, 2006 12:07 AM
>>>> Subject: Re: [AccessD] saving values
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> I'd use Dao, open the record in question, push the value in, and
>>>>> requery
>>>>> the
>>>>> form.
>>>>>
>>>>> Rocky
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>>>>> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Pedro
>>>>> Janssen
>>>>> Sent: 23 November 2006 13:32
>>>>> To: AccessD
>>>>> Subject: [AccessD] saving values
>>>>>
>>>>> Hello Group,
>>>>>
>>>>> i still have troubles saving values from unbound comboxes (cascade) in
>>>>> table
>>>>> fields.
>>>>>
>>>>> What is the best way to do this.
>>>>>
>>>>> Pedro Janssen
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From bchacc at san.rr.com  Mon Nov 27 16:34:15 2006
From: bchacc at san.rr.com (Beach Access Software)
Date: Mon, 27 Nov 2006 14:34:15 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] DAO Field Name String/Variable
In-Reply-To: <AIEKKBIAKDJNAFGABNJKAENBGOAA.bheygood@abestsystems.com>
Message-ID: <002401c71274$2bcb2b70$6401a8c0@HAL9005>

Bob:

Right off the top of my head, I think, after you get the field name from the
first recordset into a string variable like strFieldName, then in the second
recordset you'd want to use rs2(strFieldName) to get reference the value
from that field of the record that recordset rs2 is currently pointing to.

Clear as mud?

Call me if you want to - 858-259-4334.

Rocky




-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Bob Heygood
Sent: Monday, November 27, 2006 2:20 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] DAO Field Name String/Variable

in my example the field names are in table 1.

Sorry i'm Vegas working on a laptop.....
Will visit soon.

bob




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Software
Sent: Monday, November 27, 2006 12:20 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: Re: [AccessD] DAO Field Name String/Variable


So table one contains the field names of table 2?

Rocky

P.S. Swing by my office with your laptop and I'll do it for you on the spot
(yes I have an ulterior motive).


-----Original Message-----
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Sent: Monday, November 27, 2006 11:24 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: [AccessD] DAO Fiekd Name String/Variable

Hello to the list,

I woild like to:
1. get a value from one table as a string
2. lookup the value of a field in a second table 
where the field name = the value of field in table 1
Using !s if possible.

TIA

best 


Bob

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From shamil at users.mns.ru  Mon Nov 27 16:40:02 2006
From: shamil at users.mns.ru (Shamil Salakhetdinov)
Date: Tue, 28 Nov 2006 01:40:02 +0300
Subject: [AccessD] XML Import Sample File
In-Reply-To: <21609.65.118.249.214.1164664422.squirrel@webmail.iowatelecom.net>
Message-ID: <000001c71274$fa875d30$6401a8c0@nant>

Greg,

I did try sample code with MSXML 6.0 and it worked OK.

Try to debug/trace this function:

My guess the problem is in this function:

Public Function Parse(ByVal vstrURL As String, ByVal vstrTableName As
String, ByVal vavarFields As Variant)
Dim reader As SAXXMLReader40
    mavarFields = vavarFields
    mstrTableName = vstrTableName
    mintFieldIndex = -1
    mintFieldsCount = 0
    Set reader = New SAXXMLReader40
    Set reader.contentHandler = Me
    Set reader.errorHandler = Me
    reader.parseURL vstrURL
End Function

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-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Greg Smith
Sent: Tuesday, November 28, 2006 12:54 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] [Access-D] XML Import Sample File

Hi Shamil:

I'm currently set at MSXML 6 (MSXML6.dll).

Greg

> Hello Greg,
>
> Try to change reference to MSXML v.4.0 or above....
>
> --
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>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of
> gwsmith at iowatelecom.net
> Sent: Monday, November 27, 2006 8:41 PM
> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> Subject: [AccessD] XML Import Sample File
>
> Shamil:
>
> Thanks again for the sample file code, by the way.
>
> The first two functions, XmlImportTest1() and XmlImportTest2() both work
> just fine.  However, when I try to test XmlImportTest3() or
> XmlImportTest4(), I get the following error:
>
>   Run Time Error '429'
>   Active X Component Can't Create Object
>
> and the following line of code is highlighted as the culprit:
>
>   obj.ImportData CurrentDb, "Shippers", Array _
>     ("CompanyName", "Phone"), mcstrXml1FullPath2
>
> where ...FullPath1 is for ...Test3() and ...FullPath2 is for ...Test4().
>
> I have the sneaky feeling I don't have something installed or properly
> referenced, but I'm not sure what.
>
> Any suggestions?
>
> Thanks!
>
> Greg Smith
>

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From pedro at plex.nl  Mon Nov 27 17:05:23 2006
From: pedro at plex.nl (Pedro Janssen)
Date: Tue, 28 Nov 2006 00:05:23 +0100
Subject: [AccessD] saving values
References: <002301c71273$c1dfd800$6401a8c0@HAL9005>
Message-ID: <001e01c71278$89ab5130$4001a8c0@qmotionfaa3ad9>

Hello Rocky,

In this testdatabase is just want to make the cascadecombox selection trying 
to work, for a major Fossil Database.
The Main Table in the test is tblFossieldata (fossildata). The form 
frmFossielData is bound to that table.
In this table you see the fields Era, Periode, Epoch, Etage and Tijd. These 
are Geological Timetable fields. These fields are just textfields

The table tblTijdschaal (timescale) I filled with the vlues that i want to 
use in the tblFossielData, in the fields that i mentioned before.
Normally i would do this with a combobox for each, but the list of timescale 
is very large, so i would simplify that by using a cascadecombo, that is 
present in frmTijdschaal.

When opening a record in frmFossielData, and field Era gets the focus (in 
the real database there wil be a button click event), the unbound subform 
gets the focus.
By using the cascade, Each field is filtered by the value of the combobox 
before.
When selected the values in the five cascade comboboxes, i want to close the 
frmTijdschaal en the values of Era.frmTijdschaal must be placed in the field 
Era of frmFossielData, etc for the other four fields.

Pedro Janssen


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Beach Access Software" <bchacc at san.rr.com>
To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'" 
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Monday, November 27, 2006 11:31 PM
Subject: Re: [AccessD] saving values


> Pedro:
>
> You are using my variable name lngKeyValue for the criterion in the WHERE
> clause to limit the recordset to the one record you are looking for.  You
> should use the value of the field from the combo box, instead.
>
> And I'm not clear on what you're trying to store or what the relationship 
> is
> between the two tables.  So I can't be more precise.
>
> Tell me again the user process and what you're trying to accomplish.
>
> Regards,
>
> Rocky
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Pedro Janssen
> Sent: Monday, November 27, 2006 11:51 AM
> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] saving values
>
> Hello Rocky,
>
> the message that is get back is "Holy Moly!  There's No Records In 
> Here!!! -
>
> 0
>
> That is strange, because in record two the FossielID (Primary Key of the
> table) value is 2 (auto Number field).
>
> Ik could sent you the small test.mdb,
> maybe you have seen the problem then in a minute?
>
> Pedro Janssen
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Beach Access Software" <bchacc at san.rr.com>
> To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'"
> <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
> Sent: Monday, November 27, 2006 4:39 PM
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] saving values
>
>
>> Pedro:
>>
>> Just a guess but perhaps using the WHERE clause returns no records 
>> because
>> the value for the PK you're using is invalid.
>>
>> After the set rs = statement put
>>
>> If rs.bof=true and rs.eof=true then
>> Msgbox "Holy Moly!  There's No Records In Here!!! - " &
>> lngKeyValue
>> Exit sub
>> End if
>>
>> To see if that's the case and what the value is of the key you're 
>> apssing.
>>
>> Post the set rs = statement and let's have a look at it.
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Rocky
>>
>>
>> If it is then
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Pedro Janssen
>> Sent: Monday, November 27, 2006 6:55 AM
>> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
>> Subject: Re: [AccessD] saving values
>>
>> Hello Rocky,
>>
>> i included the Where statement, but get an eror when closing the subform
>> with the code:
>> Runtime error 3201, no current record.
>> When clicking debug button, rs!edit is highlited yellow.
>>
>> I used help, but still do not understand it.
>>
>> Pedro Janssen
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Beach Access Software" <bchacc at san.rr.com>
>> To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'"
>> <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
>> Sent: Monday, November 27, 2006 2:59 AM
>> Subject: Re: [AccessD] saving values
>>
>>
>>> Pedro:
>>>
>>> You need to add the WHERE clause to your set statement:
>>>
>>> Set rs = db.OpenRecordset("Select Era, Periode, Epoch, Etage, Tijd FROM
>>> tblFossielData WHERE tblFossielDataPrimaryKey = " & lngKeyValue)
>>>
>>> Do you know what the primary key value is of the record you want to
>>> update
>>> with the values from the unbound text boxes?
>>>
>>> Rocky
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>>> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Pedro Janssen
>>> Sent: Sunday, November 26, 2006 2:31 AM
>>> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
>>> Subject: Re: [AccessD] saving values
>>>
>>> Hello,
>>>
>>> how would i point to the first record in the Where clausule with the ID?
>>> I am placing values from a unbound form, with no ID in a bound form with
>>> an
>>> ID (= FossielID).
>>>
>>>
>>> Please give me an idea to do this in the code below?
>>>
>>> Pedro Janssen
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>> From: "Beach Access Software" <bchacc at san.rr.com>
>>> To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'"
>>> <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
>>> Sent: Saturday, November 25, 2006 10:30 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [AccessD] saving values
>>>
>>>
>>>> Pedro:
>>>>
>>>> It looks like you are opening the table with all of the records.  So 
>>>> the
>>>> record pointer of the recor4dset is always pointing to the first 
>>>> record.
>>>> You need to either 1) use a WHERE clause in the Set rs =
>>>> db.OpenRecordset
>>>> so
>>>> you get only the record you want, or 2) after opening the recordset use
>>>> rs.FindFirst and specify the primary key of the record you want to
>>>> update.
>>>> Then the recordset will be positioned at the record you want to update.
>>>> Be
>>>> sure to use if rs.NoMatch just in case the FindFirst doesn't find the
>>>> record.
>>>>
>>>> Regards,
>>>>
>>>> Rocky
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>>>> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Pedro 
>>>> Janssen
>>>> Sent: Saturday, November 25, 2006 12:37 PM
>>>> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
>>>> Subject: Re: [AccessD] saving values
>>>>
>>>> Hello Rocky (and Others),
>>>>
>>>> the code is working fine, but only for the first record on the form.
>>>> When i try to use it on the second record (after closing) it jumps to
>>>> record
>>>>
>>>> one and overwrite's the data there.
>>>> Trying to put the where statement in it to state that ID = ID, it gives
>>>> an
>>>> error on record two that it expects parameter = 1.
>>>>
>>>> The code that i use now:
>>>>
>>>> Private Sub Form_Close()
>>>>
>>>> Dim db As DAO.Database
>>>> Dim rs As DAO.Recordset
>>>>
>>>> Set db = CurrentDb
>>>> Set rs = db.OpenRecordset("Select Era, Periode, Epoch, Etage, Tijd FROM
>>>> tblFossielData")
>>>>
>>>> rs.Edit
>>>> rs!Era = cboEra
>>>> rs!Periode = cboPeriode
>>>> rs!Epoch = cboEpoch
>>>> rs!Etage = cboEtage
>>>> rs!Tijd = cboTijd
>>>> rs.Update
>>>>
>>>> rs.Close
>>>> db.Close
>>>>
>>>> Set rs = Nothing
>>>> Set db = Nothing
>>>>
>>>> Me.Requery
>>>>
>>>> End Sub
>>>>
>>>> What can i do about this?
>>>>
>>>> Pedro Janssen
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>>> From: "Beach Access Software" <bchacc at san.rr.com>
>>>> To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'"
>>>> <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
>>>> Sent: Friday, November 24, 2006 9:09 PM
>>>> Subject: Re: [AccessD] saving values
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Pedro:
>>>>>
>>>>> Just off the top and untested:
>>>>>
>>>>> Dim db as DAO.Database
>>>>> Dim rs as DAO.Recordset
>>>>>
>>>>> Set db = CurrentDb
>>>>> Set rs = db.OpenRecordset("Select fldOne, fldTwo, fldThree FROM
>>>>> tblMyTable
>>>>> WHERE fldPK = " & lngPrimaryKey)
>>>>>
>>>>> ' Note: You could use any criteria you want in the WHERE clause;
>>>>> doesn't
>>>>> have to be the primary key.
>>>>>
>>>>> rs.Edit
>>>>> rs!fldOne = cboComboBox1
>>>>> rs!fldTwo = cboComboBox2
>>>>> rs!fldThree = cboComboBox3
>>>>> rs.Update
>>>>>
>>>>> rs.Close
>>>>> db.Close
>>>>>
>>>>> set rs = Nothing
>>>>> set db = Nothing
>>>>>
>>>>> Me.Requery (assuming you want the values to show on the bound form.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Or here's another approach which I think should work but I haven't
>>>>> tested:
>>>>>
>>>>> Set db = CurrentDb
>>>>> Db.Execute "UPDATE tblMyTable SET tblMyTable.fldOne = '" & 
>>>>> cboComboBox1
>>>>> &
>>>>> "', tblMyTable.fldTwo= '" & cboComboBox2 & "', tblMyTable.fldThree = 
>>>>> '"
>>>>> &
>>>>> cboComboBox3 & "';"
>>>>>
>>>>> Note that I have assumes that the values are string values and so need
>>>>> to
>>>>> have preceding and following apostrophes.  If the values are numeric
>>>>> then
>>>>> they won't need the '.
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm sure someone else looking at this code will make the appropriate
>>>>> corrections.
>>>>>
>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>
>>>>> Rocky
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>>>>> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Pedro
>>>>> Janssen
>>>>> Sent: Thursday, November 23, 2006 3:35 PM
>>>>> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
>>>>> Subject: Re: [AccessD] saving values
>>>>>
>>>>> Hello Rocky,
>>>>>
>>>>> could you give me an example of that, preferably in a example 
>>>>> database.
>>>>> I have tried several things until now but nothing is working perfect.
>>>>>
>>>>> Pedro Janssen
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>>>> From: "Beach Access Software" <bchacc at san.rr.com>
>>>>> To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'"
>>>>> <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
>>>>> Sent: Friday, November 24, 2006 12:07 AM
>>>>> Subject: Re: [AccessD] saving values
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> I'd use Dao, open the record in question, push the value in, and
>>>>>> requery
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> form.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Rocky
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>>>>>> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Pedro
>>>>>> Janssen
>>>>>> Sent: 23 November 2006 13:32
>>>>>> To: AccessD
>>>>>> Subject: [AccessD] saving values
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hello Group,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> i still have troubles saving values from unbound comboxes (cascade) 
>>>>>> in
>>>>>> table
>>>>>> fields.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> What is the best way to do this.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Pedro Janssen
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From bchacc at san.rr.com  Mon Nov 27 17:08:24 2006
From: bchacc at san.rr.com (Beach Access Software)
Date: Mon, 27 Nov 2006 15:08:24 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] Designing Reports Bogs Down
Message-ID: <003001c71278$f11550f0$6401a8c0@HAL9005>

Dear List:

 

My Access changed behavior today.  When I go onto design mode on a report
(not of forms, though), and designing I do runs as slow as a stuck pig.

 

So I popped up the task manager and it turns out that every time I move or
copy a control the program spoolsv.exe sucks up 20-50% of the cycles for
5-10 seconds.  

 

I tried repair, but have not tried a complete reinstall.  This does not
happen on machine number2.  Or 3.  Just this, which is (unfortunately) my
primary development box at the moment.

 

Anyone have a clue as to why this should start happening?

 

MTIA

 

Rocky

 



From cfoust at infostatsystems.com  Mon Nov 27 17:51:50 2006
From: cfoust at infostatsystems.com (Charlotte Foust)
Date: Mon, 27 Nov 2006 15:51:50 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] Designing Reports Bogs Down
In-Reply-To: <003001c71278$f11550f0$6401a8c0@HAL9005>
Message-ID: <F55048AF7E974F429BB24597D7355EEA17854B@INFOSERVER04.infostat.local>

What printer is that machine talking to, local or network?  And on that
machine, do you have background printing turned on?  I remember running
into this some time ago, but I can't recall the cause or cure, but
printing to a local printer and having background printing turned off
may help.

Charlotte Foust 

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Beach Access
Software
Sent: Monday, November 27, 2006 3:08 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] Designing Reports Bogs Down

Dear List:

 

My Access changed behavior today.  When I go onto design mode on a
report (not of forms, though), and designing I do runs as slow as a
stuck pig.

 

So I popped up the task manager and it turns out that every time I move
or copy a control the program spoolsv.exe sucks up 20-50% of the cycles
for 5-10 seconds.  

 

I tried repair, but have not tried a complete reinstall.  This does not
happen on machine number2.  Or 3.  Just this, which is (unfortunately)
my primary development box at the moment.

 

Anyone have a clue as to why this should start happening?

 

MTIA

 

Rocky

 

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From bchacc at san.rr.com  Mon Nov 27 17:54:44 2006
From: bchacc at san.rr.com (Beach Access Software)
Date: Mon, 27 Nov 2006 15:54:44 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] Designing Reports Bogs Down
In-Reply-To: <003001c71278$f11550f0$6401a8c0@HAL9005>
Message-ID: <000001c7127f$69aed300$6401a8c0@HAL9005>

Never mind.  Found it (I think).  The printers window showed the default
printer, which was a network printer on another machine, having 1 job in the
queue.  But nothing in the jobs window.  On the machine where this printer
is hooked up it showed zero jobs in the queue.  Even after rebooting the
first machine it still showed one job in the queue.  So I deleted and
reinstalled the printer.

Now when I copy a text box on a report in design mode, spoolsv.exe still
shows up in the task list but only briefly.

Rocky


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Beach Access
Software
Sent: Monday, November 27, 2006 3:08 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] Designing Reports Bogs Down

Dear List:

 

My Access changed behavior today.  When I go onto design mode on a report
(not of forms, though), and designing I do runs as slow as a stuck pig.

 

So I popped up the task manager and it turns out that every time I move or
copy a control the program spoolsv.exe sucks up 20-50% of the cycles for
5-10 seconds.  

 

I tried repair, but have not tried a complete reinstall.  This does not
happen on machine number2.  Or 3.  Just this, which is (unfortunately) my
primary development box at the moment.

 

Anyone have a clue as to why this should start happening?

 

MTIA

 

Rocky

 

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From martyconnelly at shaw.ca  Mon Nov 27 18:00:11 2006
From: martyconnelly at shaw.ca (MartyConnelly)
Date: Mon, 27 Nov 2006 16:00:11 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] Designing Reports Bogs Down
In-Reply-To: <003001c71278$f11550f0$6401a8c0@HAL9005>
References: <003001c71278$f11550f0$6401a8c0@HAL9005>
Message-ID: <456B7C0B.6050306@shaw.ca>

Try turning this off, Track name AutoCorrect
Tools >> Options >> General >>.Track name AutoCorrect info should be off.

http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=290181

Also report could be corrupt so use SaveAsText and LoadFromText to
save and rebuild report from text file.


Beach Access Software wrote:

>Dear List:
>
> 
>
>My Access changed behavior today.  When I go onto design mode on a report
>(not of forms, though), and designing I do runs as slow as a stuck pig.
>
> 
>
>So I popped up the task manager and it turns out that every time I move or
>copy a control the program spoolsv.exe sucks up 20-50% of the cycles for
>5-10 seconds.  
>
> 
>
>I tried repair, but have not tried a complete reinstall.  This does not
>happen on machine number2.  Or 3.  Just this, which is (unfortunately) my
>primary development box at the moment.
>
> 
>
>Anyone have a clue as to why this should start happening?
>
> 
>
>MTIA
>
> 
>
>Rocky
>
> 
>
>  
>

-- 
Marty Connelly
Victoria, B.C.
Canada



From bchacc at san.rr.com  Mon Nov 27 18:33:30 2006
From: bchacc at san.rr.com (Beach Access Software)
Date: Mon, 27 Nov 2006 16:33:30 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] Designing Reports Bogs Down
In-Reply-To: <456B7C0B.6050306@shaw.ca>
Message-ID: <000001c71284$d47f15f0$6401a8c0@HAL9005>

It was already turned off by default (I guess MS finally learned their
lesson about this 'feature').  But I think I've traced the problem to a bad
remote printer queue.  Had to delete and reinstall the printer.

Rocky


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of MartyConnelly
Sent: Monday, November 27, 2006 4:00 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Designing Reports Bogs Down

Try turning this off, Track name AutoCorrect
Tools >> Options >> General >>.Track name AutoCorrect info should be off.

http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=290181

Also report could be corrupt so use SaveAsText and LoadFromText to
save and rebuild report from text file.


Beach Access Software wrote:

>Dear List:
>
> 
>
>My Access changed behavior today.  When I go onto design mode on a report
>(not of forms, though), and designing I do runs as slow as a stuck pig.
>
> 
>
>So I popped up the task manager and it turns out that every time I move or
>copy a control the program spoolsv.exe sucks up 20-50% of the cycles for
>5-10 seconds.  
>
> 
>
>I tried repair, but have not tried a complete reinstall.  This does not
>happen on machine number2.  Or 3.  Just this, which is (unfortunately) my
>primary development box at the moment.
>
> 
>
>Anyone have a clue as to why this should start happening?
>
> 
>
>MTIA
>
> 
>
>Rocky
>
> 
>
>  
>

-- 
Marty Connelly
Victoria, B.C.
Canada

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From bheid at sc.rr.com  Mon Nov 27 18:55:19 2006
From: bheid at sc.rr.com (Bobby Heid)
Date: Mon, 27 Nov 2006 19:55:19 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Designing Reports Bogs Down
In-Reply-To: <003001c71278$f11550f0$6401a8c0@HAL9005>
Message-ID: <000301c71287$e1396b30$2d01a8c0@bhxp>

I just noticed this happening to me today also!  And all I did was rebuild
from source.

Bobby 

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Beach Access
Software
Sent: Monday, November 27, 2006 6:08 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] Designing Reports Bogs Down

Dear List:

 

My Access changed behavior today.  When I go onto design mode on a report
(not of forms, though), and designing I do runs as slow as a stuck pig.

 

So I popped up the task manager and it turns out that every time I move or
copy a control the program spoolsv.exe sucks up 20-50% of the cycles for
5-10 seconds.  

 

I tried repair, but have not tried a complete reinstall.  This does not
happen on machine number2.  Or 3.  Just this, which is (unfortunately) my
primary development box at the moment.

 

Anyone have a clue as to why this should start happening?

 

MTIA

 

Rocky



From kp at sdsonline.net  Mon Nov 27 19:22:52 2006
From: kp at sdsonline.net (Kath Pelletti)
Date: Tue, 28 Nov 2006 12:22:52 +1100
Subject: [AccessD] vba bookmarks unreliable Access 2003?
Message-ID: <000a01c7128b$badf02c0$6501a8c0@office>

Has anyone noticed that when you create bookmarks in the code window in Access 2003 you can't always move from one to another ? Seems to get itself stuck......sometime it works and sometimes no luck. V. annoying..

______________________________________
Kath Pelletti
Software Design and Solutions Pty Ltd.
Ph: 9505-6714
Fax: 9505-6430
Email: KP at SDSOnline.net

From kp at sdsonline.net  Mon Nov 27 19:36:27 2006
From: kp at sdsonline.net (Kath Pelletti)
Date: Tue, 28 Nov 2006 12:36:27 +1100
Subject: [AccessD] Upgrading from Access 2000 to 2003
Message-ID: <001201c7128d$a00b1cc0$6501a8c0@office>

I've been keeping track of issues I have faced when I had to upgrade a client's system from Access 2000 to 2003 this month. 

I thought it might be worthwhile posting my brief list in case anyone else needs to do the same - and maybe those of you who have worked in 2003 more than I have can add to it.....

- Start with new 2003 database, and change default file format to 2002-2003 before importing all objects, file import specs, relationships.
- Recreate Startup options and update all references
- Check all report settings for reports which do not use the default printer. (I found that those that use a specific printer, eg. pdf995 had reverted to default printer on import).
- Check that toolbars are displayed. Even though they are imported, I found that I had to turn then on manually (change properties to allow them to be turned on / turn them on / change properties back again)
- All references to the commondialog control need to be re-written (browse / save dialogues)
- Change the [Tools] [Macro] [Security] level to Low to prevent users getting the msg "Do you want to block unsafe expressions?"
- There is a new level of error checking in 2003. Any controls that do not have tne control source in a form's source will create new error messages (shouldn't have any of those but it found a couple!) . Error checking levels can be adjusted thru the menu. (tools, options, error checking).

______________________________________
Kath Pelletti


From kp at sdsonline.net  Mon Nov 27 20:27:26 2006
From: kp at sdsonline.net (Kath Pelletti)
Date: Tue, 28 Nov 2006 13:27:26 +1100
Subject: [AccessD] Rich text control as html
Message-ID: <001901c71294$bf6c8b10$6501a8c0@office>

Can anyone recommend a text box control I could get which would allow me to display it in a form and allow users full format ability (need to change fonts / colour, bold , bullets, paragraph indents etc).

I then need to export the contents of the field to an external mdb where it gets read from for the website. The web developer has asked me to use a control which exports in html format so he can read the formatting and display as the users defined it in the mdb.
(Access 2003)

______________________________________
Kath Pelletti
Software Design and Solutions Pty Ltd.
Ph: 9505-6714
Fax: 9505-6430
Email: KP at SDSOnline.net

From stuart at lexacorp.com.pg  Mon Nov 27 21:41:04 2006
From: stuart at lexacorp.com.pg (Stuart McLachlan)
Date: Tue, 28 Nov 2006 13:41:04 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] Rich text control as html
In-Reply-To: <001901c71294$bf6c8b10$6501a8c0@office>
References: <001901c71294$bf6c8b10$6501a8c0@office>
Message-ID: <456C3C70.18365.15A0C525@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>

On 28 Nov 2006 at 13:27, Kath Pelletti wrote:

> Can anyone recommend a text box control I could get which would allow
> me to display it in a form and allow users full format ability (need
> to change fonts / colour, bold , bullets, paragraph indents etc). 
> 

> I then need to export the contents of the field to an external mdb
> where it gets read from for the website. The web developer has asked
> me to use a control which exports in html format so he can read the
> formatting and display as the users defined it in the mdb. (Access
> 2003) 


How much do you want to spend?

"TX Text Control" , "TE Edit Control" with the "HTML Add-on" and "SpellEditor"  are all good but expensive options.

http://www.textcontrol.com/
http://www.subsystems.com/
http://www.spelltext.com/aboutspe.htm





From adtp at airtelbroadband.in  Mon Nov 27 23:49:56 2006
From: adtp at airtelbroadband.in (A.D.TEJPAL)
Date: Tue, 28 Nov 2006 11:19:56 +0530
Subject: [AccessD] Checking control property in an external mde database
References: <001501c7109b$2bb0f0a0$6401a8c0@HAL9005>
Message-ID: <012301c712b1$5eebede0$6d2a177d@pcadt>

Rocky,

    For accessing control's properties, the form has to be open either in design or run time view. In case of mde, design view is ruled out.

    Function Fn_IsControlVisibleInExternalDb() as given below, will get you the visible status of desired control in external db. Though it involves opening & closing of target form in external db, the process remains invisible to the user.

    Note - If the target form is in datasheet view, mere checking of visible property does not conclusively establish whether the column in question is displayed or not. For that, ColumnHidden property has to be verified. Interestingly, ColumnHidden property is detectable only at run time (not in design view).

Best wishes,
A.D.Tejpal
----------------

=====================================
Function Fn_IsControlVisibleInExternalDb( _
                ByVal FilePath As String, _
                ByVal FormName As String, _
                ByVal ControlName As String) As Boolean
    ' Returns True if the control is visible.
    ' Otherwise False
    On Error GoTo ErrTrap
    Dim acp As Access.Application
    
    Fn_IsControlVisibleInExternalDb = False     ' Default
    
    Set acp = New Access.Application
    acp.OpenCurrentDatabase FilePath
    
    acp.DoCmd.OpenForm FormName
    
    If acp.Forms(FormName)(ControlName).Visible _
                                                            = True Then
        Fn_IsControlVisibleInExternalDb = True
    End If
    acp.DoCmd.Close acForm, FormName
    
ExitPoint:
    On Error Resume Next
    acp.Quit
    Set acp = Nothing
    On Error GoTo 0
    Exit Function

ErrTrap:
    MsgBox "Err " & Err.Number & " - " & Err.Description
    Resume ExitPoint
End Function
=====================================

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Beach Access Software 
  To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' 
  Sent: Saturday, November 25, 2006 19:38
  Subject: [AccessD] Checking control property in an external mde database


  Dear List: 

  Is it possible to check the visible property of a control on a form in
  another database which is an mde?  Would it be necessary to have that database is currently open with that form opened? 

  MTIA 

  Rocky

From bchacc at san.rr.com  Tue Nov 28 00:05:17 2006
From: bchacc at san.rr.com (Beach Access Software)
Date: Mon, 27 Nov 2006 22:05:17 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] Checking control property in an external mde database
In-Reply-To: <012301c712b1$5eebede0$6d2a177d@pcadt>
Message-ID: <001c01c712b3$2e114c40$6401a8c0@HAL9005>

A.D.:

Thanks for that function.  My Chinese distributor wants to be able to make
demo systems over there. I want to let them make demos only from the very
restricted 35 part version.  So if the 35 part limit label is visible in the
mde, I will let the program run which creates an encrypted key with a thirty
day limit.

This will solve the problem.

Thanks and regards,

Rocky
  

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of A.D.TEJPAL
Sent: Monday, November 27, 2006 9:50 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Checking control property in an external mde database

Rocky,

    For accessing control's properties, the form has to be open either in
design or run time view. In case of mde, design view is ruled out.

    Function Fn_IsControlVisibleInExternalDb() as given below, will get you
the visible status of desired control in external db. Though it involves
opening & closing of target form in external db, the process remains
invisible to the user.

    Note - If the target form is in datasheet view, mere checking of visible
property does not conclusively establish whether the column in question is
displayed or not. For that, ColumnHidden property has to be verified.
Interestingly, ColumnHidden property is detectable only at run time (not in
design view).

Best wishes,
A.D.Tejpal
----------------

=====================================
Function Fn_IsControlVisibleInExternalDb( _
                ByVal FilePath As String, _
                ByVal FormName As String, _
                ByVal ControlName As String) As Boolean
    ' Returns True if the control is visible.
    ' Otherwise False
    On Error GoTo ErrTrap
    Dim acp As Access.Application
    
    Fn_IsControlVisibleInExternalDb = False     ' Default
    
    Set acp = New Access.Application
    acp.OpenCurrentDatabase FilePath
    
    acp.DoCmd.OpenForm FormName
    
    If acp.Forms(FormName)(ControlName).Visible _
                                                            = True Then
        Fn_IsControlVisibleInExternalDb = True
    End If
    acp.DoCmd.Close acForm, FormName
    
ExitPoint:
    On Error Resume Next
    acp.Quit
    Set acp = Nothing
    On Error GoTo 0
    Exit Function

ErrTrap:
    MsgBox "Err " & Err.Number & " - " & Err.Description
    Resume ExitPoint
End Function
=====================================

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Beach Access Software 
  To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' 
  Sent: Saturday, November 25, 2006 19:38
  Subject: [AccessD] Checking control property in an external mde database


  Dear List: 

  Is it possible to check the visible property of a control on a form in
  another database which is an mde?  Would it be necessary to have that
database is currently open with that form opened? 

  MTIA 

  Rocky
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From bheygood at abestsystems.com  Tue Nov 28 00:05:47 2006
From: bheygood at abestsystems.com (Bob Heygood)
Date: Mon, 27 Nov 2006 22:05:47 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] DAO Field Name String/Variable
In-Reply-To: <002401c71274$2bcb2b70$6401a8c0@HAL9005>
Message-ID: <AIEKKBIAKDJNAFGABNJKAEOPGOAA.bheygood@abestsystems.com>

Hey Rocky,
Yeah, but i was truing to use teh !String convention.
Oh well workied around it.

Looks like i missed teh rain back home.

See you soon.

bob


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Beach Access
Software
Sent: Monday, November 27, 2006 2:34 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: Re: [AccessD] DAO Field Name String/Variable


Bob:

Right off the top of my head, I think, after you get the field name from the
first recordset into a string variable like strFieldName, then in the second
recordset you'd want to use rs2(strFieldName) to get reference the value
from that field of the record that recordset rs2 is currently pointing to.

Clear as mud?

Call me if you want to - 858-259-4334.

Rocky




-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Bob Heygood
Sent: Monday, November 27, 2006 2:20 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] DAO Field Name String/Variable

in my example the field names are in table 1.

Sorry i'm Vegas working on a laptop.....
Will visit soon.

bob




-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Beach Access
Software
Sent: Monday, November 27, 2006 12:20 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: Re: [AccessD] DAO Field Name String/Variable


So table one contains the field names of table 2?

Rocky

P.S. Swing by my office with your laptop and I'll do it for you on the spot
(yes I have an ulterior motive).


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Bob Heygood
Sent: Monday, November 27, 2006 11:24 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: [AccessD] DAO Fiekd Name String/Variable

Hello to the list,

I woild like to:
1. get a value from one table as a string
2. lookup the value of a field in a second table
where the field name = the value of field in table 1
Using !s if possible.

TIA

best


Bob

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From wdhindman at dejpolsystems.com  Tue Nov 28 00:21:44 2006
From: wdhindman at dejpolsystems.com (William Hindman)
Date: Tue, 28 Nov 2006 01:21:44 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Rich text control as html
References: <001901c71294$bf6c8b10$6501a8c0@office>
	<456C3C70.18365.15A0C525@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>
Message-ID: <002201c712b5$7ab98e70$3e3de844@50NM721>

Kath

www.lebans.com ...look for his RTF ocx ...its free and works well in all 
versions A97-A2k3 ...plus he's on the msaccess newsgroups regularly and will 
answer any problems you might have in your implementation if you post it 
there ...I use it in several apps to allow user edit and format of text 
portions of reports that go to their customers ...since the rtf is stored in 
an mdb table you should be able to export it as html using Access' own 
export capabilities.

William Hindman

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Stuart McLachlan" <stuart at lexacorp.com.pg>
To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving" 
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Monday, November 27, 2006 10:41 PM
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Rich text control as html


> On 28 Nov 2006 at 13:27, Kath Pelletti wrote:
>
>> Can anyone recommend a text box control I could get which would allow
>> me to display it in a form and allow users full format ability (need
>> to change fonts / colour, bold , bullets, paragraph indents etc).
>>
>
>> I then need to export the contents of the field to an external mdb
>> where it gets read from for the website. The web developer has asked
>> me to use a control which exports in html format so he can read the
>> formatting and display as the users defined it in the mdb. (Access
>> 2003)
>
>
> How much do you want to spend?
>
> "TX Text Control" , "TE Edit Control" with the "HTML Add-on" and 
> "SpellEditor"  are all good but expensive options.
>
> http://www.textcontrol.com/
> http://www.subsystems.com/
> http://www.spelltext.com/aboutspe.htm
>
>
>
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From stuart at lexacorp.com.pg  Tue Nov 28 00:49:09 2006
From: stuart at lexacorp.com.pg (Stuart McLachlan)
Date: Tue, 28 Nov 2006 16:49:09 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] Rich text control as html
In-Reply-To: <002201c712b5$7ab98e70$3e3de844@50NM721>
References: <001901c71294$bf6c8b10$6501a8c0@office>,
	<002201c712b5$7ab98e70$3e3de844@50NM721>
Message-ID: <456C6885.23119.164CF691@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>

On 28 Nov 2006 at 1:21, William Hindman wrote:

> Kath
> 
> www.lebans.com ...look for his RTF ocx ...its free and works well in all 
> versions A97-A2k3 ...plus he's on the msaccess newsgroups regularly and will 
> answer any problems you might have in your implementation if you post it 
> there ...I use it in several apps to allow user edit and format of text 
> portions of reports that go to their customers ...since the rtf is stored in 
> an mdb table you should be able to export it as html using Access' own 
> export capabilities.


Alternatively, once you have the text as RTF,  use
RTF2HTML from http://www2.bitstream.net/~bradyh/downloads/rtf2htmlrm.html
to convert the RFT string to an HTML string and use standard File IO to write the string to a file.









From wdhindman at dejpolsystems.com  Tue Nov 28 00:58:48 2006
From: wdhindman at dejpolsystems.com (William Hindman)
Date: Tue, 28 Nov 2006 01:58:48 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Checking control property in an external mde database
References: <001c01c712b3$2e114c40$6401a8c0@HAL9005>
Message-ID: <000501c712ba$a82ce500$3e3de844@50NM721>

...isn't it fairly easy to modify labels on mde forms using 3rd party 
software?

William Hindman

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Beach Access Software" <bchacc at san.rr.com>
To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'" 
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Tuesday, November 28, 2006 1:05 AM
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Checking control property in an external mde database


> A.D.:
>
> Thanks for that function.  My Chinese distributor wants to be able to make
> demo systems over there. I want to let them make demos only from the very
> restricted 35 part version.  So if the 35 part limit label is visible in 
> the
> mde, I will let the program run which creates an encrypted key with a 
> thirty
> day limit.
>
> This will solve the problem.
>
> Thanks and regards,
>
> Rocky
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of A.D.TEJPAL
> Sent: Monday, November 27, 2006 9:50 PM
> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] Checking control property in an external mde 
> database
>
> Rocky,
>
>    For accessing control's properties, the form has to be open either in
> design or run time view. In case of mde, design view is ruled out.
>
>    Function Fn_IsControlVisibleInExternalDb() as given below, will get you
> the visible status of desired control in external db. Though it involves
> opening & closing of target form in external db, the process remains
> invisible to the user.
>
>    Note - If the target form is in datasheet view, mere checking of 
> visible
> property does not conclusively establish whether the column in question is
> displayed or not. For that, ColumnHidden property has to be verified.
> Interestingly, ColumnHidden property is detectable only at run time (not 
> in
> design view).
>
> Best wishes,
> A.D.Tejpal
> ----------------
>
> =====================================
> Function Fn_IsControlVisibleInExternalDb( _
>                ByVal FilePath As String, _
>                ByVal FormName As String, _
>                ByVal ControlName As String) As Boolean
>    ' Returns True if the control is visible.
>    ' Otherwise False
>    On Error GoTo ErrTrap
>    Dim acp As Access.Application
>
>    Fn_IsControlVisibleInExternalDb = False     ' Default
>
>    Set acp = New Access.Application
>    acp.OpenCurrentDatabase FilePath
>
>    acp.DoCmd.OpenForm FormName
>
>    If acp.Forms(FormName)(ControlName).Visible _
>                                                            = True Then
>        Fn_IsControlVisibleInExternalDb = True
>    End If
>    acp.DoCmd.Close acForm, FormName
>
> ExitPoint:
>    On Error Resume Next
>    acp.Quit
>    Set acp = Nothing
>    On Error GoTo 0
>    Exit Function
>
> ErrTrap:
>    MsgBox "Err " & Err.Number & " - " & Err.Description
>    Resume ExitPoint
> End Function
> =====================================
>
>  ----- Original Message ----- 
>  From: Beach Access Software
>  To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
>  Sent: Saturday, November 25, 2006 19:38
>  Subject: [AccessD] Checking control property in an external mde database
>
>
>  Dear List:
>
>  Is it possible to check the visible property of a control on a form in
>  another database which is an mde?  Would it be necessary to have that
> database is currently open with that form opened?
>
>  MTIA
>
>  Rocky
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From michael at ddisolutions.com.au  Tue Nov 28 03:46:02 2006
From: michael at ddisolutions.com.au (Michael Maddison)
Date: Tue, 28 Nov 2006 20:46:02 +1100
Subject: [AccessD] TableDefs.Append issue
Message-ID: <59A61174B1F5B54B97FD4ADDE71E7D0116AD36@ddi-01.DDI.local>

Hi all,

I'm writing a tool for a client that requested VB6 FE and Access (2003)
BE.

I need to import some dbf files.
What I've done is create a link to the dbf file using
DAO.TableDefs.Append

Works fine when I step through the code...
Take out the breakpoints and I get 'table cannot be found errors'

It seems that the tdf doesn't refresh quickly enough, I do call refresh
after the append.

What to do?

cheers

Michael M


From JRojas at tnco-inc.com  Tue Nov 28 07:48:19 2006
From: JRojas at tnco-inc.com (Joe Rojas)
Date: Tue, 28 Nov 2006 08:48:19 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Problem linking to an ODBC table
Message-ID: <758E92433C4F3740B67BE4DD369AF5772EDF6E@ex2k3.corp.tnco-inc.com>

Hello,

I am using Access 2003 to connect to a Progress OpenEdge 10 database via
ODBC.
Everything is setup correctly but I am having a problem connecting to
one particular table.

Each time I try to connect to it, I get an error message that says "The
size of a field is too long."

Any ideas for a possible work around?

Thanks,
Joe Rojas
IT Manager
TNCO, Inc.
781-447-6661 x7506
jrojas at tnco-inc.com


From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com  Tue Nov 28 07:48:15 2006
From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (JWColby)
Date: Tue, 28 Nov 2006 08:48:15 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Outer join speed
Message-ID: <002a01c712f3$db344fe0$657aa8c0@m6805>

Are outer joins inherently any slower than inner joins?  In particular is an
outer join slower where the number of records pulled is equal to the number
pulled using an inner join?
 
John W. Colby
Colby Consulting
www.ColbyConsulting.com
 


From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com  Tue Nov 28 08:14:07 2006
From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (JWColby)
Date: Tue, 28 Nov 2006 09:14:07 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Problem linking to an ODBC table
In-Reply-To: <758E92433C4F3740B67BE4DD369AF5772EDF6E@ex2k3.corp.tnco-inc.com>
Message-ID: <002f01c712f7$780df070$657aa8c0@m6805>

If I had to guess, I would say that one field in the table you are linking
to is able to contain more data than Access can handle.  Perhaps Access is
mapping a field as text when it actually contains more data than a text
field can handle (255 characters).  Or perhaps there is a field that Access
simply does not understand how to map, contains a data type that Access
simply cannot handle.  I would look at the table itself, inside of OpenEdge
and see what kinds of data the table contains. 


John W. Colby
Colby Consulting
www.ColbyConsulting.com

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Joe Rojas
Sent: Tuesday, November 28, 2006 8:48 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: [AccessD] Problem linking to an ODBC table

Hello,

I am using Access 2003 to connect to a Progress OpenEdge 10 database via
ODBC.
Everything is setup correctly but I am having a problem connecting to one
particular table.

Each time I try to connect to it, I get an error message that says "The size
of a field is too long."

Any ideas for a possible work around?

Thanks,
Joe Rojas
IT Manager
TNCO, Inc.
781-447-6661 x7506
jrojas at tnco-inc.com
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From bchacc at san.rr.com  Tue Nov 28 08:50:30 2006
From: bchacc at san.rr.com (Beach Access Software)
Date: Tue, 28 Nov 2006 06:50:30 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] DAO Field Name String/Variable
In-Reply-To: <AIEKKBIAKDJNAFGABNJKAEOPGOAA.bheygood@abestsystems.com>
Message-ID: <003701c712fc$8cef4ca0$6401a8c0@HAL9005>

Yeah, real gully washer.  As you know we had several hundredths of an inch
last week - our first in about nine months - and 90 accidents on the
freeways.  Yesterday we had 9 hundredths of an inch!!! With commensurate
loss of life and property.  

Rocky


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Bob Heygood
Sent: Monday, November 27, 2006 10:06 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] DAO Field Name String/Variable

Hey Rocky,
Yeah, but i was truing to use teh !String convention.
Oh well workied around it.

Looks like i missed teh rain back home.

See you soon.

bob


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Beach Access
Software
Sent: Monday, November 27, 2006 2:34 PM
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Subject: Re: [AccessD] DAO Field Name String/Variable


Bob:

Right off the top of my head, I think, after you get the field name from the
first recordset into a string variable like strFieldName, then in the second
recordset you'd want to use rs2(strFieldName) to get reference the value
from that field of the record that recordset rs2 is currently pointing to.

Clear as mud?

Call me if you want to - 858-259-4334.

Rocky




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[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Bob Heygood
Sent: Monday, November 27, 2006 2:20 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] DAO Field Name String/Variable

in my example the field names are in table 1.

Sorry i'm Vegas working on a laptop.....
Will visit soon.

bob




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Sent: Monday, November 27, 2006 12:20 PM
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Subject: Re: [AccessD] DAO Field Name String/Variable


So table one contains the field names of table 2?

Rocky

P.S. Swing by my office with your laptop and I'll do it for you on the spot
(yes I have an ulterior motive).


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Sent: Monday, November 27, 2006 11:24 AM
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Subject: [AccessD] DAO Fiekd Name String/Variable

Hello to the list,

I woild like to:
1. get a value from one table as a string
2. lookup the value of a field in a second table
where the field name = the value of field in table 1
Using !s if possible.

TIA

best


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From bchacc at san.rr.com  Tue Nov 28 08:51:51 2006
From: bchacc at san.rr.com (Beach Access Software)
Date: Tue, 28 Nov 2006 06:51:51 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] Checking control property in an external mde database
In-Reply-To: <000501c712ba$a82ce500$3e3de844@50NM721>
Message-ID: <003801c712fc$bd55e4d0$6401a8c0@HAL9005>

I use the best first party software from A.D. Tejpal, Pty.  Who you gonna
call?

Rocky


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[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of William Hindman
Sent: Monday, November 27, 2006 10:59 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Checking control property in an external mde database

...isn't it fairly easy to modify labels on mde forms using 3rd party 
software?

William Hindman

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Sent: Tuesday, November 28, 2006 1:05 AM
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Checking control property in an external mde database


> A.D.:
>
> Thanks for that function.  My Chinese distributor wants to be able to make
> demo systems over there. I want to let them make demos only from the very
> restricted 35 part version.  So if the 35 part limit label is visible in 
> the
> mde, I will let the program run which creates an encrypted key with a 
> thirty
> day limit.
>
> This will solve the problem.
>
> Thanks and regards,
>
> Rocky
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of A.D.TEJPAL
> Sent: Monday, November 27, 2006 9:50 PM
> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] Checking control property in an external mde 
> database
>
> Rocky,
>
>    For accessing control's properties, the form has to be open either in
> design or run time view. In case of mde, design view is ruled out.
>
>    Function Fn_IsControlVisibleInExternalDb() as given below, will get you
> the visible status of desired control in external db. Though it involves
> opening & closing of target form in external db, the process remains
> invisible to the user.
>
>    Note - If the target form is in datasheet view, mere checking of 
> visible
> property does not conclusively establish whether the column in question is
> displayed or not. For that, ColumnHidden property has to be verified.
> Interestingly, ColumnHidden property is detectable only at run time (not 
> in
> design view).
>
> Best wishes,
> A.D.Tejpal
> ----------------
>
> =====================================
> Function Fn_IsControlVisibleInExternalDb( _
>                ByVal FilePath As String, _
>                ByVal FormName As String, _
>                ByVal ControlName As String) As Boolean
>    ' Returns True if the control is visible.
>    ' Otherwise False
>    On Error GoTo ErrTrap
>    Dim acp As Access.Application
>
>    Fn_IsControlVisibleInExternalDb = False     ' Default
>
>    Set acp = New Access.Application
>    acp.OpenCurrentDatabase FilePath
>
>    acp.DoCmd.OpenForm FormName
>
>    If acp.Forms(FormName)(ControlName).Visible _
>                                                            = True Then
>        Fn_IsControlVisibleInExternalDb = True
>    End If
>    acp.DoCmd.Close acForm, FormName
>
> ExitPoint:
>    On Error Resume Next
>    acp.Quit
>    Set acp = Nothing
>    On Error GoTo 0
>    Exit Function
>
> ErrTrap:
>    MsgBox "Err " & Err.Number & " - " & Err.Description
>    Resume ExitPoint
> End Function
> =====================================
>
>  ----- Original Message ----- 
>  From: Beach Access Software
>  To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
>  Sent: Saturday, November 25, 2006 19:38
>  Subject: [AccessD] Checking control property in an external mde database
>
>
>  Dear List:
>
>  Is it possible to check the visible property of a control on a form in
>  another database which is an mde?  Would it be necessary to have that
> database is currently open with that form opened?
>
>  MTIA
>
>  Rocky
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From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com  Tue Nov 28 09:15:18 2006
From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (JWColby)
Date: Tue, 28 Nov 2006 10:15:18 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] DAO Field Name String/Variable
In-Reply-To: <003701c712fc$8cef4ca0$6401a8c0@HAL9005>
Message-ID: <003601c71300$04620950$657aa8c0@m6805>

LOL, and even then you get about twice as much per year as they do over the
mountains in Yuma. 


John W. Colby
Colby Consulting
www.ColbyConsulting.com

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[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Beach Access
Software
Sent: Tuesday, November 28, 2006 9:51 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: Re: [AccessD] DAO Field Name String/Variable

Yeah, real gully washer.  As you know we had several hundredths of an inch
last week - our first in about nine months - and 90 accidents on the
freeways.  Yesterday we had 9 hundredths of an inch!!! With commensurate
loss of life and property.  

Rocky


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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Bob Heygood
Sent: Monday, November 27, 2006 10:06 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] DAO Field Name String/Variable

Hey Rocky,
Yeah, but i was truing to use teh !String convention.
Oh well workied around it.

Looks like i missed teh rain back home.

See you soon.

bob


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Software
Sent: Monday, November 27, 2006 2:34 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: Re: [AccessD] DAO Field Name String/Variable


Bob:

Right off the top of my head, I think, after you get the field name from the
first recordset into a string variable like strFieldName, then in the second
recordset you'd want to use rs2(strFieldName) to get reference the value
from that field of the record that recordset rs2 is currently pointing to.

Clear as mud?

Call me if you want to - 858-259-4334.

Rocky




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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Bob Heygood
Sent: Monday, November 27, 2006 2:20 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] DAO Field Name String/Variable

in my example the field names are in table 1.

Sorry i'm Vegas working on a laptop.....
Will visit soon.

bob




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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
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Software
Sent: Monday, November 27, 2006 12:20 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: Re: [AccessD] DAO Field Name String/Variable


So table one contains the field names of table 2?

Rocky

P.S. Swing by my office with your laptop and I'll do it for you on the spot
(yes I have an ulterior motive).


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Sent: Monday, November 27, 2006 11:24 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: [AccessD] DAO Fiekd Name String/Variable

Hello to the list,

I woild like to:
1. get a value from one table as a string 2. lookup the value of a field in
a second table where the field name = the value of field in table 1 Using !s
if possible.

TIA

best


Bob

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From cclenright at yahoo.com  Tue Nov 28 09:40:45 2006
From: cclenright at yahoo.com (Chris Enright)
Date: Tue, 28 Nov 2006 07:40:45 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [AccessD] Text Box Control Source Problem
Message-ID: <515508.89023.qm@web34309.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

I am doing a small job on Access 2K and having strange happenings!
   
  I have a series of Text Boxes in the Form Footer which should add up minutes spent by employees on different tasks. However they are all showing #Error
   
  If I enter into the Control Source of one Text Box:    
   
  =Sum([qryIG_Wed].[DBAdminEventTime])
   
  and try to save it, it changes to 
   
  =Sum(qryIG_Wed.DBAdminEventTime)
   
  If I enter 
   
  =Sum(qryIG_Wed.DBAdminEventTime)
   
  and press Enter, it changes to
   
  =Sum([qryIG_Wed].[DBAdminEventTime])
   
  If I View the Form I have #Error, however if I have the Properties Box open in View Mode and enter
   
  =Sum(qryIG_Wed.DBAdminEventTime)
   
  it converts it to
   
  =Sum([qryIG_Wed].[DBAdminEventTime])
   
  and the correct figure is shown in the Text Box.
   
  I have spent 4 hours on this problem and it is driving me crazy!  I have tried importing everything into a new database. Compacted and repaired. In fact everything I can think of short of using a hammer on the computer. (within the next hour).
  I am sure I am missing something very easy.
   
  Someone help me please
   
  Chris

 
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From rusty.hammond at cpiqpc.com  Tue Nov 28 09:45:50 2006
From: rusty.hammond at cpiqpc.com (rusty.hammond at cpiqpc.com)
Date: Tue, 28 Nov 2006 09:45:50 -0600
Subject: [AccessD] Text Box Control Source Problem
Message-ID: <8301C8A868251E4C8ECD3D4FFEA40F8A2584B71C@cpixchng-1.cpiqpc.net>

Chris,

Try 
=Sum([qryIG_Wed]![DBAdminEventTime])

HTH

Rusty

-----Original Message-----
From: Chris Enright [mailto:cclenright at yahoo.com]
Sent: Tuesday, November 28, 2006 9:41 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: [AccessD] Text Box Control Source Problem


I am doing a small job on Access 2K and having strange happenings!
   
  I have a series of Text Boxes in the Form Footer which should add up
minutes spent by employees on different tasks. However they are all showing
#Error
   
  If I enter into the Control Source of one Text Box:    
   
  =Sum([qryIG_Wed].[DBAdminEventTime])
   
  and try to save it, it changes to 
   
  =Sum(qryIG_Wed.DBAdminEventTime)
   
  If I enter 
   
  =Sum(qryIG_Wed.DBAdminEventTime)
   
  and press Enter, it changes to
   
  =Sum([qryIG_Wed].[DBAdminEventTime])
   
  If I View the Form I have #Error, however if I have the Properties Box
open in View Mode and enter
   
  =Sum(qryIG_Wed.DBAdminEventTime)
   
  it converts it to
   
  =Sum([qryIG_Wed].[DBAdminEventTime])
   
  and the correct figure is shown in the Text Box.
   
  I have spent 4 hours on this problem and it is driving me crazy!  I have
tried importing everything into a new database. Compacted and repaired. In
fact everything I can think of short of using a hammer on the computer.
(within the next hour).
  I am sure I am missing something very easy.
   
  Someone help me please
   
  Chris

 
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From gwsmith at iowatelecom.net  Tue Nov 28 09:46:42 2006
From: gwsmith at iowatelecom.net (Greg Smith)
Date: Tue, 28 Nov 2006 09:46:42 -0600 (CST)
Subject: [AccessD] XML Import Sample File
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	<000001c71274$fa875d30$6401a8c0@nant>
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Shamil:

That is where the issue was.  I changed the SAXXMLReader40 to
SAXXMLReader60 in both places and now it runs without error.  HOWEVER, it
does not do anything.  The table remains empty...nothing is imported. 
Samples 1 & 2 both import from the text files, but neither 3 nor 4 import
anything.  The table, if it has any contents, the contents are deleted and
the table stays empty.

Maybe SAXXMLReader60 will not work?

Thanks!

Greg


=============================
Greg,

I did try sample code with MSXML 6.0 and it worked OK.

Try to debug/trace this function:

My guess the problem is in this function:

Public Function Parse(ByVal vstrURL As String, ByVal vstrTableName As
String, ByVal vavarFields As Variant)
Dim reader As SAXXMLReader40
    mavarFields = vavarFields
    mstrTableName = vstrTableName
    mintFieldIndex = -1
    mintFieldsCount = 0
    Set reader = New SAXXMLReader40
    Set reader.contentHandler = Me
    Set reader.errorHandler = Me
    reader.parseURL vstrURL
End Function

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[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Greg Smith
Sent: Tuesday, November 28, 2006 12:54 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] [Access-D] XML Import Sample File

Hi Shamil:

I'm currently set at MSXML 6 (MSXML6.dll).

Greg

> Hello Greg,
>
> Try to change reference to MSXML v.4.0 or above....
>
> --
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<snip>



From cclenright at yahoo.com  Tue Nov 28 10:04:04 2006
From: cclenright at yahoo.com (Chris Enright)
Date: Tue, 28 Nov 2006 08:04:04 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [AccessD] Text Box Control Source Problem
In-Reply-To: <8301C8A868251E4C8ECD3D4FFEA40F8A2584B71C@cpixchng-1.cpiqpc.net>
Message-ID: <20061128160404.47097.qmail@web34301.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Thanks Rusty, but tried that. Exactly the same results except for dot read bang!
   
  Chris

rusty.hammond at cpiqpc.com wrote:
  Chris,

Try 
=Sum([qryIG_Wed]![DBAdminEventTime])

HTH

Rusty

-----Original Message-----
From: Chris Enright [mailto:cclenright at yahoo.com]
Sent: Tuesday, November 28, 2006 9:41 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: [AccessD] Text Box Control Source Problem


I am doing a small job on Access 2K and having strange happenings!

I have a series of Text Boxes in the Form Footer which should add up
minutes spent by employees on different tasks. However they are all showing
#Error

If I enter into the Control Source of one Text Box: 

=Sum([qryIG_Wed].[DBAdminEventTime])

and try to save it, it changes to 

=Sum(qryIG_Wed.DBAdminEventTime)

If I enter 

=Sum(qryIG_Wed.DBAdminEventTime)

and press Enter, it changes to

=Sum([qryIG_Wed].[DBAdminEventTime])

If I View the Form I have #Error, however if I have the Properties Box
open in View Mode and enter

=Sum(qryIG_Wed.DBAdminEventTime)

it converts it to

=Sum([qryIG_Wed].[DBAdminEventTime])

and the correct figure is shown in the Text Box.

I have spent 4 hours on this problem and it is driving me crazy! I have
tried importing everything into a new database. Compacted and repaired. In
fact everything I can think of short of using a hammer on the computer.
(within the next hour).
I am sure I am missing something very easy.

Someone help me please

Chris


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From shamil at users.mns.ru  Tue Nov 28 10:18:20 2006
From: shamil at users.mns.ru (Shamil Salakhetdinov)
Date: Tue, 28 Nov 2006 19:18:20 +0300
Subject: [AccessD] XML Import Sample File
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Message-ID: <001201c71308$d252b410$6401a8c0@nant>

Hello Greg,

It works well here with MSXML v.6.0 - data are imported:

Public Function Parse(ByVal vstrURL As String, ByVal vstrTableName As
String, ByVal vavarFields As Variant)
Dim reader As SAXXMLReader60 '30
    mavarFields = vavarFields
    mstrTableName = vstrTableName
    mintFieldIndex = -1
    mintFieldsCount = 0
    Set reader = New SAXXMLReader60 '30
    Set reader.contentHandler = Me
    Set reader.errorHandler = Me
    reader.parseURL vstrURL
End Function

I have no clear idea why it doesn't work there on you PC.
Try to put breakpoints and debug/trace it...

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Sent: Tuesday, November 28, 2006 6:47 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] XML Import Sample File

Shamil:

That is where the issue was.  I changed the SAXXMLReader40 to
SAXXMLReader60 in both places and now it runs without error.  HOWEVER, it
does not do anything.  The table remains empty...nothing is imported. 
Samples 1 & 2 both import from the text files, but neither 3 nor 4 import
anything.  The table, if it has any contents, the contents are deleted and
the table stays empty.

Maybe SAXXMLReader60 will not work?

Thanks!

Greg


=============================
Greg,

I did try sample code with MSXML 6.0 and it worked OK.

Try to debug/trace this function:

My guess the problem is in this function:

Public Function Parse(ByVal vstrURL As String, ByVal vstrTableName As
String, ByVal vavarFields As Variant)
Dim reader As SAXXMLReader40
    mavarFields = vavarFields
    mstrTableName = vstrTableName
    mintFieldIndex = -1
    mintFieldsCount = 0
    Set reader = New SAXXMLReader40
    Set reader.contentHandler = Me
    Set reader.errorHandler = Me
    reader.parseURL vstrURL
End Function

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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Greg Smith
Sent: Tuesday, November 28, 2006 12:54 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] [Access-D] XML Import Sample File

Hi Shamil:

I'm currently set at MSXML 6 (MSXML6.dll).

Greg

> Hello Greg,
>
> Try to change reference to MSXML v.4.0 or above....
>
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From andy at minstersystems.co.uk  Tue Nov 28 10:26:21 2006
From: andy at minstersystems.co.uk (Andy Lacey)
Date: Tue, 28 Nov 2006 16:26:21 +0000
Subject: [AccessD] Text Box Control Source Problem
Message-ID: <20061128162626.3983B2C7629@smtp.nildram.co.uk>

I may be missing the point here Chris, in which case I apologise, but
wouldn't

=DSum("DBAdminEventTime","qryIG_Wed")

do it?

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Subject: [AccessD] Text Box Control Source Problem
Date: 28/11/06 15:42


I am doing a small job on Access 2K and having strange happenings!

I have a series of Text Boxes in the Form Footer which should add up minutes
spent by employees on different tasks. However they are all showing #Error

If I enter into the Control Source of one Text Box:

=Sum([qryIG_Wed].[DBAdminEventTime])

and try to save it, it changes to

=Sum(qryIG_Wed.DBAdminEventTime)

If I enter

=Sum(qryIG_Wed.DBAdminEventTime)

and press Enter, it changes to

=Sum([qryIG_Wed].[DBAdminEventTime])

If I View the Form I have #Error, however if I have the Properties Box open
in View Mode and enter

=Sum(qryIG_Wed.DBAdminEventTime)

it converts it to

=Sum([qryIG_Wed].[DBAdminEventTime])

and the correct figure is shown in the Text Box.

I have spent 4 hours on this problem and it is driving me crazy! I have
tried importing everything into a new database. Compacted and repaired. In
fact everything I can think of short of using a hammer on the computer.
(within the next hour).
I am sure I am missing something very easy.

Someone help me please

Chris


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From rusty.hammond at cpiqpc.com  Tue Nov 28 10:37:25 2006
From: rusty.hammond at cpiqpc.com (rusty.hammond at cpiqpc.com)
Date: Tue, 28 Nov 2006 10:37:25 -0600
Subject: [AccessD] Text Box Control Source Problem
Message-ID: <8301C8A868251E4C8ECD3D4FFEA40F8A2584B71E@cpixchng-1.cpiqpc.net>

How about just referencing the field name:

=Sum([DBAdminEventTime])


-----Original Message-----
From: Chris Enright [mailto:cclenright at yahoo.com]
Sent: Tuesday, November 28, 2006 10:04 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Text Box Control Source Problem


Thanks Rusty, but tried that. Exactly the same results except for dot read
bang!
   
  Chris

rusty.hammond at cpiqpc.com wrote:
  Chris,

Try 
=Sum([qryIG_Wed]![DBAdminEventTime])

HTH

Rusty

-----Original Message-----
From: Chris Enright [mailto:cclenright at yahoo.com]
Sent: Tuesday, November 28, 2006 9:41 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: [AccessD] Text Box Control Source Problem


I am doing a small job on Access 2K and having strange happenings!

I have a series of Text Boxes in the Form Footer which should add up
minutes spent by employees on different tasks. However they are all showing
#Error

If I enter into the Control Source of one Text Box: 

=Sum([qryIG_Wed].[DBAdminEventTime])

and try to save it, it changes to 

=Sum(qryIG_Wed.DBAdminEventTime)

If I enter 

=Sum(qryIG_Wed.DBAdminEventTime)

and press Enter, it changes to

=Sum([qryIG_Wed].[DBAdminEventTime])

If I View the Form I have #Error, however if I have the Properties Box
open in View Mode and enter

=Sum(qryIG_Wed.DBAdminEventTime)

it converts it to

=Sum([qryIG_Wed].[DBAdminEventTime])

and the correct figure is shown in the Text Box.

I have spent 4 hours on this problem and it is driving me crazy! I have
tried importing everything into a new database. Compacted and repaired. In
fact everything I can think of short of using a hammer on the computer.
(within the next hour).
I am sure I am missing something very easy.

Someone help me please

Chris


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From cclenright at yahoo.com  Tue Nov 28 10:45:21 2006
From: cclenright at yahoo.com (Chris Enright)
Date: Tue, 28 Nov 2006 08:45:21 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [AccessD] Text Box Control Source Problem
In-Reply-To: <20061128162626.3983B2C7629@smtp.nildram.co.uk>
Message-ID: <20061128164521.50889.qmail@web34311.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Andy,
   
  You didn't and it did! :-)
   
  Many thanks. Go home in twenty minutes and would have worried about it all night.
   
  Out of curiosity, why doesn't the other work?
   
  Many thanks,
   
  Can go to the pub now
   
  Chris

Andy Lacey <andy at minstersystems.co.uk> wrote:
  I may be missing the point here Chris, in which case I apologise, but
wouldn't

=DSum("DBAdminEventTime","qryIG_Wed")

do it?

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To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving"

Subject: [AccessD] Text Box Control Source Problem
Date: 28/11/06 15:42


I am doing a small job on Access 2K and having strange happenings!

I have a series of Text Boxes in the Form Footer which should add up minutes
spent by employees on different tasks. However they are all showing #Error

If I enter into the Control Source of one Text Box:

=Sum([qryIG_Wed].[DBAdminEventTime])

and try to save it, it changes to

=Sum(qryIG_Wed.DBAdminEventTime)

If I enter

=Sum(qryIG_Wed.DBAdminEventTime)

and press Enter, it changes to

=Sum([qryIG_Wed].[DBAdminEventTime])

If I View the Form I have #Error, however if I have the Properties Box open
in View Mode and enter

=Sum(qryIG_Wed.DBAdminEventTime)

it converts it to

=Sum([qryIG_Wed].[DBAdminEventTime])

and the correct figure is shown in the Text Box.

I have spent 4 hours on this problem and it is driving me crazy! I have
tried importing everything into a new database. Compacted and repaired. In
fact everything I can think of short of using a hammer on the computer.
(within the next hour).
I am sure I am missing something very easy.

Someone help me please

Chris


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From bchacc at san.rr.com  Tue Nov 28 10:54:01 2006
From: bchacc at san.rr.com (Beach Access Software)
Date: Tue, 28 Nov 2006 08:54:01 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] saving values
In-Reply-To: <001e01c71278$89ab5130$4001a8c0@qmotionfaa3ad9>
Message-ID: <007101c7130d$cebf61e0$6401a8c0@HAL9005>

Pedro:

Haven't forgotten about you but I'm a little backed up this morning.  Stand
by...

Rocky


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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Pedro Janssen
Sent: Monday, November 27, 2006 3:05 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] saving values

Hello Rocky,

In this testdatabase is just want to make the cascadecombox selection trying

to work, for a major Fossil Database.
The Main Table in the test is tblFossieldata (fossildata). The form 
frmFossielData is bound to that table.
In this table you see the fields Era, Periode, Epoch, Etage and Tijd. These 
are Geological Timetable fields. These fields are just textfields

The table tblTijdschaal (timescale) I filled with the vlues that i want to 
use in the tblFossielData, in the fields that i mentioned before.
Normally i would do this with a combobox for each, but the list of timescale

is very large, so i would simplify that by using a cascadecombo, that is 
present in frmTijdschaal.

When opening a record in frmFossielData, and field Era gets the focus (in 
the real database there wil be a button click event), the unbound subform 
gets the focus.
By using the cascade, Each field is filtered by the value of the combobox 
before.
When selected the values in the five cascade comboboxes, i want to close the

frmTijdschaal en the values of Era.frmTijdschaal must be placed in the field

Era of frmFossielData, etc for the other four fields.

Pedro Janssen


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Beach Access Software" <bchacc at san.rr.com>
To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'" 
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Monday, November 27, 2006 11:31 PM
Subject: Re: [AccessD] saving values


> Pedro:
>
> You are using my variable name lngKeyValue for the criterion in the WHERE
> clause to limit the recordset to the one record you are looking for.  You
> should use the value of the field from the combo box, instead.
>
> And I'm not clear on what you're trying to store or what the relationship 
> is
> between the two tables.  So I can't be more precise.
>
> Tell me again the user process and what you're trying to accomplish.
>
> Regards,
>
> Rocky
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Pedro Janssen
> Sent: Monday, November 27, 2006 11:51 AM
> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] saving values
>
> Hello Rocky,
>
> the message that is get back is "Holy Moly!  There's No Records In 
> Here!!! -
>
> 0
>
> That is strange, because in record two the FossielID (Primary Key of the
> table) value is 2 (auto Number field).
>
> Ik could sent you the small test.mdb,
> maybe you have seen the problem then in a minute?
>
> Pedro Janssen
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Beach Access Software" <bchacc at san.rr.com>
> To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'"
> <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
> Sent: Monday, November 27, 2006 4:39 PM
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] saving values
>
>
>> Pedro:
>>
>> Just a guess but perhaps using the WHERE clause returns no records 
>> because
>> the value for the PK you're using is invalid.
>>
>> After the set rs = statement put
>>
>> If rs.bof=true and rs.eof=true then
>> Msgbox "Holy Moly!  There's No Records In Here!!! - " &
>> lngKeyValue
>> Exit sub
>> End if
>>
>> To see if that's the case and what the value is of the key you're 
>> apssing.
>>
>> Post the set rs = statement and let's have a look at it.
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Rocky
>>
>>
>> If it is then
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Pedro Janssen
>> Sent: Monday, November 27, 2006 6:55 AM
>> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
>> Subject: Re: [AccessD] saving values
>>
>> Hello Rocky,
>>
>> i included the Where statement, but get an eror when closing the subform
>> with the code:
>> Runtime error 3201, no current record.
>> When clicking debug button, rs!edit is highlited yellow.
>>
>> I used help, but still do not understand it.
>>
>> Pedro Janssen
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Beach Access Software" <bchacc at san.rr.com>
>> To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'"
>> <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
>> Sent: Monday, November 27, 2006 2:59 AM
>> Subject: Re: [AccessD] saving values
>>
>>
>>> Pedro:
>>>
>>> You need to add the WHERE clause to your set statement:
>>>
>>> Set rs = db.OpenRecordset("Select Era, Periode, Epoch, Etage, Tijd FROM
>>> tblFossielData WHERE tblFossielDataPrimaryKey = " & lngKeyValue)
>>>
>>> Do you know what the primary key value is of the record you want to
>>> update
>>> with the values from the unbound text boxes?
>>>
>>> Rocky
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>>> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Pedro Janssen
>>> Sent: Sunday, November 26, 2006 2:31 AM
>>> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
>>> Subject: Re: [AccessD] saving values
>>>
>>> Hello,
>>>
>>> how would i point to the first record in the Where clausule with the ID?
>>> I am placing values from a unbound form, with no ID in a bound form with
>>> an
>>> ID (= FossielID).
>>>
>>>
>>> Please give me an idea to do this in the code below?
>>>
>>> Pedro Janssen
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>> From: "Beach Access Software" <bchacc at san.rr.com>
>>> To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'"
>>> <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
>>> Sent: Saturday, November 25, 2006 10:30 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [AccessD] saving values
>>>
>>>
>>>> Pedro:
>>>>
>>>> It looks like you are opening the table with all of the records.  So 
>>>> the
>>>> record pointer of the recor4dset is always pointing to the first 
>>>> record.
>>>> You need to either 1) use a WHERE clause in the Set rs =
>>>> db.OpenRecordset
>>>> so
>>>> you get only the record you want, or 2) after opening the recordset use
>>>> rs.FindFirst and specify the primary key of the record you want to
>>>> update.
>>>> Then the recordset will be positioned at the record you want to update.
>>>> Be
>>>> sure to use if rs.NoMatch just in case the FindFirst doesn't find the
>>>> record.
>>>>
>>>> Regards,
>>>>
>>>> Rocky
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>>>> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Pedro 
>>>> Janssen
>>>> Sent: Saturday, November 25, 2006 12:37 PM
>>>> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
>>>> Subject: Re: [AccessD] saving values
>>>>
>>>> Hello Rocky (and Others),
>>>>
>>>> the code is working fine, but only for the first record on the form.
>>>> When i try to use it on the second record (after closing) it jumps to
>>>> record
>>>>
>>>> one and overwrite's the data there.
>>>> Trying to put the where statement in it to state that ID = ID, it gives
>>>> an
>>>> error on record two that it expects parameter = 1.
>>>>
>>>> The code that i use now:
>>>>
>>>> Private Sub Form_Close()
>>>>
>>>> Dim db As DAO.Database
>>>> Dim rs As DAO.Recordset
>>>>
>>>> Set db = CurrentDb
>>>> Set rs = db.OpenRecordset("Select Era, Periode, Epoch, Etage, Tijd FROM
>>>> tblFossielData")
>>>>
>>>> rs.Edit
>>>> rs!Era = cboEra
>>>> rs!Periode = cboPeriode
>>>> rs!Epoch = cboEpoch
>>>> rs!Etage = cboEtage
>>>> rs!Tijd = cboTijd
>>>> rs.Update
>>>>
>>>> rs.Close
>>>> db.Close
>>>>
>>>> Set rs = Nothing
>>>> Set db = Nothing
>>>>
>>>> Me.Requery
>>>>
>>>> End Sub
>>>>
>>>> What can i do about this?
>>>>
>>>> Pedro Janssen
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>>> From: "Beach Access Software" <bchacc at san.rr.com>
>>>> To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'"
>>>> <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
>>>> Sent: Friday, November 24, 2006 9:09 PM
>>>> Subject: Re: [AccessD] saving values
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Pedro:
>>>>>
>>>>> Just off the top and untested:
>>>>>
>>>>> Dim db as DAO.Database
>>>>> Dim rs as DAO.Recordset
>>>>>
>>>>> Set db = CurrentDb
>>>>> Set rs = db.OpenRecordset("Select fldOne, fldTwo, fldThree FROM
>>>>> tblMyTable
>>>>> WHERE fldPK = " & lngPrimaryKey)
>>>>>
>>>>> ' Note: You could use any criteria you want in the WHERE clause;
>>>>> doesn't
>>>>> have to be the primary key.
>>>>>
>>>>> rs.Edit
>>>>> rs!fldOne = cboComboBox1
>>>>> rs!fldTwo = cboComboBox2
>>>>> rs!fldThree = cboComboBox3
>>>>> rs.Update
>>>>>
>>>>> rs.Close
>>>>> db.Close
>>>>>
>>>>> set rs = Nothing
>>>>> set db = Nothing
>>>>>
>>>>> Me.Requery (assuming you want the values to show on the bound form.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Or here's another approach which I think should work but I haven't
>>>>> tested:
>>>>>
>>>>> Set db = CurrentDb
>>>>> Db.Execute "UPDATE tblMyTable SET tblMyTable.fldOne = '" & 
>>>>> cboComboBox1
>>>>> &
>>>>> "', tblMyTable.fldTwo= '" & cboComboBox2 & "', tblMyTable.fldThree = 
>>>>> '"
>>>>> &
>>>>> cboComboBox3 & "';"
>>>>>
>>>>> Note that I have assumes that the values are string values and so need
>>>>> to
>>>>> have preceding and following apostrophes.  If the values are numeric
>>>>> then
>>>>> they won't need the '.
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm sure someone else looking at this code will make the appropriate
>>>>> corrections.
>>>>>
>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>
>>>>> Rocky
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>>>>> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Pedro
>>>>> Janssen
>>>>> Sent: Thursday, November 23, 2006 3:35 PM
>>>>> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
>>>>> Subject: Re: [AccessD] saving values
>>>>>
>>>>> Hello Rocky,
>>>>>
>>>>> could you give me an example of that, preferably in a example 
>>>>> database.
>>>>> I have tried several things until now but nothing is working perfect.
>>>>>
>>>>> Pedro Janssen
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>>>> From: "Beach Access Software" <bchacc at san.rr.com>
>>>>> To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'"
>>>>> <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
>>>>> Sent: Friday, November 24, 2006 12:07 AM
>>>>> Subject: Re: [AccessD] saving values
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> I'd use Dao, open the record in question, push the value in, and
>>>>>> requery
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> form.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Rocky
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>>>>>> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Pedro
>>>>>> Janssen
>>>>>> Sent: 23 November 2006 13:32
>>>>>> To: AccessD
>>>>>> Subject: [AccessD] saving values
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hello Group,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> i still have troubles saving values from unbound comboxes (cascade) 
>>>>>> in
>>>>>> table
>>>>>> fields.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> What is the best way to do this.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Pedro Janssen
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From JRojas at tnco-inc.com  Tue Nov 28 11:07:31 2006
From: JRojas at tnco-inc.com (Joe Rojas)
Date: Tue, 28 Nov 2006 12:07:31 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Problem linking to an ODBC table
Message-ID: <758E92433C4F3740B67BE4DD369AF5772EDF76@ex2k3.corp.tnco-inc.com>

Thanks John,

I contacted software support and the solution was to use a pass-through
query.

Thanks,
Joe Rojas
IT Manager
TNCO, Inc.
781-447-6661 x7506
jrojas at tnco-inc.com


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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of JWColby
Sent: Tuesday, November 28, 2006 9:14 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Problem linking to an ODBC table

If I had to guess, I would say that one field in the table you are
linking
to is able to contain more data than Access can handle.  Perhaps Access
is
mapping a field as text when it actually contains more data than a text
field can handle (255 characters).  Or perhaps there is a field that
Access
simply does not understand how to map, contains a data type that Access
simply cannot handle.  I would look at the table itself, inside of
OpenEdge
and see what kinds of data the table contains. 


John W. Colby
Colby Consulting
www.ColbyConsulting.com

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Joe Rojas
Sent: Tuesday, November 28, 2006 8:48 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: [AccessD] Problem linking to an ODBC table

Hello,

I am using Access 2003 to connect to a Progress OpenEdge 10 database via
ODBC.
Everything is setup correctly but I am having a problem connecting to
one
particular table.

Each time I try to connect to it, I get an error message that says "The
size
of a field is too long."

Any ideas for a possible work around?

Thanks,
Joe Rojas
IT Manager
TNCO, Inc.
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From cclenright at yahoo.com  Tue Nov 28 11:24:13 2006
From: cclenright at yahoo.com (Chris Enright)
Date: Tue, 28 Nov 2006 09:24:13 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [AccessD] Text Box Source - Chapter 2
Message-ID: <20061128172413.81140.qmail@web34301.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Thanks Andy for solving the previous problem and Rusty for trying.
   
  This I am certain is equaly easy but I am getting something wrong.
   
  There are 42 Text Boxes on the Form and 20 employees and they want a separate form for each employee.
   
  I do not want to go through every form changing, for example, IG to SW and whilst I have read threads in the past about software that will do this sort of thing, I do not have it.
   
  So I thought that if the form was populating the Text Boxes by code On Open I could do a Search and Replace in the module.
   
  However, I seem unable to get it right. I tried for example
   
  Me.Mon_DBAdminEventTime = Me.[qryIG_Mon]![DBAdminEventTime]
   
  and I get 
   
  DbName can't find the field "?" referred to in your expression
   
  except that ? is a continuous line.
   
  How do I put 
  qryIG_Mon.DBAdminEventTime
  into the Source Code?
   
   
  Chris 
   
  ps Leaving now so won't read replies until tomorrow

 
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From bchacc at san.rr.com  Tue Nov 28 12:15:13 2006
From: bchacc at san.rr.com (Beach Access Software)
Date: Tue, 28 Nov 2006 10:15:13 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] ADO Problem
Message-ID: <008501c71319$265e68a0$6401a8c0@HAL9005>

Dear List:

A colleague (who thinks I know ADO) writes in to ask why the following:

?? Conn.Execute "INSERT INTO tWeeklyUpdateSent ( DateSent ) " & _
???????????????? "SELECT " & dtToday & ""

Inserts a record into tWeeklyUpdateSent so the conection is OK.  But but the
date is 1/1/1900 instead of today?s date.

I had him check the contents of dtToday and it does indeed have 11/28/2006
in it.

Does anyone see what he's doing wrong here?


MTIA

Rocky




From garykjos at gmail.com  Tue Nov 28 12:33:40 2006
From: garykjos at gmail.com (Gary Kjos)
Date: Tue, 28 Nov 2006 12:33:40 -0600
Subject: [AccessD] ADO Problem
In-Reply-To: <008501c71319$265e68a0$6401a8c0@HAL9005>
References: <008501c71319$265e68a0$6401a8c0@HAL9005>
Message-ID: <aea6c4950611281033xaccd4b4m54244bfde7225db2@mail.gmail.com>

Don't know DAO at all but don't you usually have # signs around dates
in SQL statements to mean Date Format enclosed.

GK

On 11/28/06, Beach Access Software <bchacc at san.rr.com> wrote:
> Dear List:
>
> A colleague (who thinks I know ADO) writes in to ask why the following:
>
>  Conn.Execute "INSERT INTO tWeeklyUpdateSent ( DateSent ) " & _
>  "SELECT " & dtToday & ""
>
> Inserts a record into tWeeklyUpdateSent so the conection is OK.  But but the
> date is 1/1/1900 instead of today's date.
>
> I had him check the contents of dtToday and it does indeed have 11/28/2006
> in it.
>
> Does anyone see what he's doing wrong here?
>
>
> MTIA
>
> Rocky
>
>
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From Donald.A.McGillivray at sprint.com  Tue Nov 28 12:38:30 2006
From: Donald.A.McGillivray at sprint.com (McGillivray, Don [IT])
Date: Tue, 28 Nov 2006 12:38:30 -0600
Subject: [AccessD] ADO Problem
In-Reply-To: <008501c71319$265e68a0$6401a8c0@HAL9005>
Message-ID: <EC829B33DF5B5B48A956B7A2E894AA9A0A8AAF38@PLSWB06C.ad.sprint.com>

Hi, Rocky.  

Just a WAG (I don't know ADO), but how 'bout:

?? Conn.Execute "INSERT INTO tWeeklyUpdateSent ( DateSent ) " & _
???????????????? "SELECT #" & dtToday & "#;" 

Don

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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Beach Access Software
Sent: Tuesday, November 28, 2006 10:15 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] ADO Problem

Dear List:

A colleague (who thinks I know ADO) writes in to ask why the following:

?? Conn.Execute "INSERT INTO tWeeklyUpdateSent ( DateSent ) " & _
???????????????? "SELECT " & dtToday & ""

Inserts a record into tWeeklyUpdateSent so the conection is OK.  But but the
date is 1/1/1900 instead of today's date.

I had him check the contents of dtToday and it does indeed have 11/28/2006
in it.

Does anyone see what he's doing wrong here?


MTIA

Rocky


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From bchacc at san.rr.com  Tue Nov 28 12:48:03 2006
From: bchacc at san.rr.com (Beach Access Software)
Date: Tue, 28 Nov 2006 10:48:03 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] ADO Problem
In-Reply-To: <aea6c4950611281033xaccd4b4m54244bfde7225db2@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <00a701c7131d$bcbd2440$6401a8c0@HAL9005>

I'll have him give it a try.

Rocky


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gary Kjos
Sent: Tuesday, November 28, 2006 10:34 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] ADO Problem

Don't know DAO at all but don't you usually have # signs around dates
in SQL statements to mean Date Format enclosed.

GK

On 11/28/06, Beach Access Software <bchacc at san.rr.com> wrote:
> Dear List:
>
> A colleague (who thinks I know ADO) writes in to ask why the following:
>
>  Conn.Execute "INSERT INTO tWeeklyUpdateSent ( DateSent ) " & _
>  "SELECT " & dtToday & ""
>
> Inserts a record into tWeeklyUpdateSent so the conection is OK.  But but
the
> date is 1/1/1900 instead of today's date.
>
> I had him check the contents of dtToday and it does indeed have 11/28/2006
> in it.
>
> Does anyone see what he's doing wrong here?
>
>
> MTIA
>
> Rocky
>
>
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From bchacc at san.rr.com  Tue Nov 28 13:36:03 2006
From: bchacc at san.rr.com (Beach Access Software)
Date: Tue, 28 Nov 2006 11:36:03 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] ADO Problem
In-Reply-To: <EC829B33DF5B5B48A956B7A2E894AA9A0A8AAF38@PLSWB06C.ad.sprint.com>
Message-ID: <00b901c71324$71176ee0$6401a8c0@HAL9005>

Using:

"SELECT #" & dtToday & "#"

He gets an error message: 

Invalid column name '#11'

dtToaday does contain 11/28/2006

What else could it be?

MTIA

Rocky


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of McGillivray, Don
[IT]
Sent: Tuesday, November 28, 2006 10:39 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] ADO Problem

Hi, Rocky.  

Just a WAG (I don't know ADO), but how 'bout:

?? Conn.Execute "INSERT INTO tWeeklyUpdateSent ( DateSent ) " & _
???????????????? "SELECT #" & dtToday & "#;" 

Don

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Beach Access
Software
Sent: Tuesday, November 28, 2006 10:15 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] ADO Problem

Dear List:

A colleague (who thinks I know ADO) writes in to ask why the following:

?? Conn.Execute "INSERT INTO tWeeklyUpdateSent ( DateSent ) " & _
???????????????? "SELECT " & dtToday & ""

Inserts a record into tWeeklyUpdateSent so the conection is OK.  But but the
date is 1/1/1900 instead of today's date.

I had him check the contents of dtToday and it does indeed have 11/28/2006
in it.

Does anyone see what he's doing wrong here?


MTIA

Rocky


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From gwsmith at iowatelecom.net  Tue Nov 28 13:40:19 2006
From: gwsmith at iowatelecom.net (Greg Smith)
Date: Tue, 28 Nov 2006 13:40:19 -0600 (CST)
Subject: [AccessD] XML Import Sample File
In-Reply-To: <001201c71308$d252b410$6401a8c0@nant>
References: <7848.65.118.249.214.1164728802.squirrel@webmail.iowatelecom.net>
	<001201c71308$d252b410$6401a8c0@nant>
Message-ID: <27904.65.118.249.214.1164742819.squirrel@webmail.iowatelecom.net>

Hi Shamil!

Well, it was a DUH on me...I'd forgotten that I'd changed the text files
somewhat and it was looking for information that wasn't in there ... once
I fixed that, it worked!  Thanks!

Now I have another question (endless, aren't they?).  All of these samples
work fine with the XML text files that are "two" levels deep, such as, for
the Shippers.xml2.txt file (I truncated the phone number because they were
wrapping around):

<?xml version="1.0"?>
<datarows>
    <Shippers CompanyName="Speedy Express" Phone="(503) ...
    <Shippers CompanyName="United Package" Phone="(704) ...
    <Shippers CompanyName="Federal Shipping" Phone="(503) ...
</datarows>

The XML text file that I am trying to extract data from has many levels to
it, although only a few are pertinent, they are several layers up inside
the XML file (See below):

<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?>
<REQUEST_GROUP>
   <REQUESTING_PARTY/>
   <RECEIVING_PARTY/>
   <SUBMITTING_PARTY/>
      <REQUEST>
         <KEY _Name="SubmissionID" _Value="4281"/>
         <KEY _Name="GroupName" _Value="JFB_Exemption20060831"/>
         <KEY _Name="SubmissionNumber" _Value="0000000610...
           <PRIA_REQUEST _Type="Other"_TypeOtherDescription="ES....
	<PACKAGE>
                      .
                      .
                      .

When I take the existing 'working' file and add one layer to it, nothing
is imported.  I don't get any errors, but I don't get any data either.

Will these samples only work for one/two levels?  If I could use these
(any one of them) to get the data from where I want, that would be
perfect!  But in order to do that, I need to be able to search 'into' the
xml file past the first level.

For example, I have gotten it to work if I use the text file format as
shown below:

<REQUEST>
  <KEY _Name="..../>
  <KEY _Name=".../>
</REQUEST>

But if I add another grouping around the outside, it fails and extracts no
data:

<REQUEST_GROUP>
  <REQUEST>
    <KEY _Name="..../>
    <KEY _Name=".../>
  </REQUEST>
</REQUEST_GROUP>

Or is there a way to make it hit whatever level I want?  So far I've not
been able to do that (yet).

Thanks!
Greg

================
Hello Greg,

It works well here with MSXML v.6.0 - data are imported:

Public Function Parse(ByVal vstrURL As String, ByVal vstrTableName As
String, ByVal vavarFields As Variant)
Dim reader As SAXXMLReader60 '30
    mavarFields = vavarFields
    mstrTableName = vstrTableName
    mintFieldIndex = -1
    mintFieldsCount = 0
    Set reader = New SAXXMLReader60 '30
    Set reader.contentHandler = Me
    Set reader.errorHandler = Me
    reader.parseURL vstrURL
End Function

I have no clear idea why it doesn't work there on you PC.
Try to put breakpoints and debug/trace it...

--
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From mwp.reid at qub.ac.uk  Tue Nov 28 13:46:29 2006
From: mwp.reid at qub.ac.uk (Martin Reid)
Date: Tue, 28 Nov 2006 19:46:29 -0000
Subject: [AccessD] ADO Problem
References: <00b901c71324$71176ee0$6401a8c0@HAL9005>
Message-ID: <D0BF9C78D1C45C418541C852C8944FE20108626D@qub-xchange-01.ads.qub.ac.uk>

Rocky
 
have a look at this
http://forums.microsoft.com/MSDN/ShowPost.aspx?PostID=741812&SiteID=1
 
Martin
 
 
Martin WP Reid
Training and Assessment Unit
Riddle Hall
Belfast
 
tel: 02890 974477
 

________________________________

From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com on behalf of Beach Access Software
Sent: Tue 28/11/2006 19:36
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: Re: [AccessD] ADO Problem



Using:

"SELECT #" & dtToday & "#"

He gets an error message:

Invalid column name '#11'

dtToaday does contain 11/28/2006

What else could it be?

MTIA

Rocky


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of McGillivray, Don
[IT]
Sent: Tuesday, November 28, 2006 10:39 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] ADO Problem

Hi, Rocky. 

Just a WAG (I don't know ADO), but how 'bout:

   Conn.Execute "INSERT INTO tWeeklyUpdateSent ( DateSent ) " & _
                 "SELECT #" & dtToday & "#;"

Don

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Beach Access
Software
Sent: Tuesday, November 28, 2006 10:15 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] ADO Problem

Dear List:

A colleague (who thinks I know ADO) writes in to ask why the following:

   Conn.Execute "INSERT INTO tWeeklyUpdateSent ( DateSent ) " & _
                 "SELECT " & dtToday & ""

Inserts a record into tWeeklyUpdateSent so the conection is OK.  But but the
date is 1/1/1900 instead of today's date.

I had him check the contents of dtToday and it does indeed have 11/28/2006
in it.

Does anyone see what he's doing wrong here?


MTIA

Rocky


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From James at fcidms.com  Tue Nov 28 13:55:01 2006
From: James at fcidms.com (James Barash)
Date: Tue, 28 Nov 2006 14:55:01 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] ADO Problem
In-Reply-To: <00b901c71324$71176ee0$6401a8c0@HAL9005>
Message-ID: <001201c71327$175be860$800101df@fci.local>

Rocky:
You probably want something like:

Conn.Execute "INSERT INTO tWeeklyUpdateSent ( DateSent ) Values (#" &
dtToday & "#)" 

This will work with an ADODB connection to Access. If you are linking to SQL
Server, you should replace the # with ' (Single Quote).

Hope this helps.

James Barash

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Beach Access
Software
Sent: Tuesday, November 28, 2006 2:36 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: Re: [AccessD] ADO Problem

Using:

"SELECT #" & dtToday & "#"

He gets an error message: 

Invalid column name '#11'

dtToaday does contain 11/28/2006

What else could it be?

MTIA

Rocky


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of McGillivray, Don
[IT]
Sent: Tuesday, November 28, 2006 10:39 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] ADO Problem

Hi, Rocky.  

Just a WAG (I don't know ADO), but how 'bout:

?? Conn.Execute "INSERT INTO tWeeklyUpdateSent ( DateSent ) " & _
???????????????? "SELECT #" & dtToday & "#;" 

Don

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Beach Access
Software
Sent: Tuesday, November 28, 2006 10:15 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] ADO Problem

Dear List:

A colleague (who thinks I know ADO) writes in to ask why the following:

?? Conn.Execute "INSERT INTO tWeeklyUpdateSent ( DateSent ) " & _
???????????????? "SELECT " & dtToday & ""

Inserts a record into tWeeklyUpdateSent so the conection is OK.  But but the
date is 1/1/1900 instead of today's date.

I had him check the contents of dtToday and it does indeed have 11/28/2006
in it.

Does anyone see what he's doing wrong here?


MTIA

Rocky


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From Donald.A.McGillivray at sprint.com  Tue Nov 28 14:01:55 2006
From: Donald.A.McGillivray at sprint.com (McGillivray, Don [IT])
Date: Tue, 28 Nov 2006 14:01:55 -0600
Subject: [AccessD] ADO Problem
In-Reply-To: <00b901c71324$71176ee0$6401a8c0@HAL9005>
Message-ID: <EC829B33DF5B5B48A956B7A2E894AA9A0A8AB238@PLSWB06C.ad.sprint.com>

Let's assume that the original error was the result of 11/28/2006 being interpreted as "11 divided by 28 divided by 2006".  That's near enough to zero to cause the date result of 1/1/1900.  The new error suggests that since "#11" is not a number it is being seen as as a column name which is to be divided by 28 and then by 2006.  #11 does not exist as a column name, hence the error.  Is dtToday dimmed as a date datatype?  If not, that might be the problem.

HTH

Don

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Beach Access Software
Sent: Tuesday, November 28, 2006 11:36 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: Re: [AccessD] ADO Problem

Using:

"SELECT #" & dtToday & "#"

He gets an error message: 

Invalid column name '#11'

dtToaday does contain 11/28/2006

What else could it be?

MTIA

Rocky


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of McGillivray, Don
[IT]
Sent: Tuesday, November 28, 2006 10:39 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] ADO Problem

Hi, Rocky.  

Just a WAG (I don't know ADO), but how 'bout:

?? Conn.Execute "INSERT INTO tWeeklyUpdateSent ( DateSent ) " & _
???????????????? "SELECT #" & dtToday & "#;" 

Don

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Beach Access
Software
Sent: Tuesday, November 28, 2006 10:15 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] ADO Problem

Dear List:

A colleague (who thinks I know ADO) writes in to ask why the following:

?? Conn.Execute "INSERT INTO tWeeklyUpdateSent ( DateSent ) " & _
???????????????? "SELECT " & dtToday & ""

Inserts a record into tWeeklyUpdateSent so the conection is OK.  But but the
date is 1/1/1900 instead of today's date.

I had him check the contents of dtToday and it does indeed have 11/28/2006
in it.

Does anyone see what he's doing wrong here?


MTIA

Rocky


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From gwsmith at iowatelecom.net  Tue Nov 28 14:19:59 2006
From: gwsmith at iowatelecom.net (Greg Smith)
Date: Tue, 28 Nov 2006 14:19:59 -0600 (CST)
Subject: [AccessD] XML Import Sample File
In-Reply-To: <001201c71308$d252b410$6401a8c0@nant>
References: <7848.65.118.249.214.1164728802.squirrel@webmail.iowatelecom.net>
	<001201c71308$d252b410$6401a8c0@nant>
Message-ID: <31585.65.118.249.214.1164745199.squirrel@webmail.iowatelecom.net>

Shamil:

Hold the bus...on my last email (which hasn't appeared at this time). 
Maybe I should TEST more thoroughly before opening my mouth (fingers?). 
I've done some more testing against the original text file you sent with
the samples and it apparently WILL pull the data from whatever level I
make it go to in the XML text file.  I must've had something wrong in my
original test code or file (can't imagine THAT ever happening.... ).

I'll run a boatload of other tests on it to see if it will work with the
file I expect them to send.


Greg


======================
Hello Greg,

It works well here with MSXML v.6.0 - data are imported:

Public Function Parse(ByVal vstrURL As String, ByVal vstrTableName As
String, ByVal vavarFields As Variant)
Dim reader As SAXXMLReader60 '30
    mavarFields = vavarFields
    mstrTableName = vstrTableName
    mintFieldIndex = -1
    mintFieldsCount = 0
    Set reader = New SAXXMLReader60 '30
    Set reader.contentHandler = Me
    Set reader.errorHandler = Me
    reader.parseURL vstrURL
End Function

I have no clear idea why it doesn't work there on you PC.
Try to put breakpoints and debug/trace it...

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From accessd at shaw.ca  Tue Nov 28 14:24:24 2006
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Tue, 28 Nov 2006 12:24:24 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] OT Great reference site
In-Reply-To: <EC829B33DF5B5B48A956B7A2E894AA9A0A8AB238@PLSWB06C.ad.sprint.com>
Message-ID: <0J9G00AMEJA01ZR0@l-daemon>

Hi All:

Just discovered this site and it has already been able to resolve a system
issues. It is a great site of utilities and diagnostic tools. 

http://www.microsoft.com/technet/sysinternals/default.mspx

HTH
Jim 



From martyconnelly at shaw.ca  Tue Nov 28 14:31:49 2006
From: martyconnelly at shaw.ca (MartyConnelly)
Date: Tue, 28 Nov 2006 12:31:49 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] XML Import Sample File
In-Reply-To: <27904.65.118.249.214.1164742819.squirrel@webmail.iowatelecom.net>
References: <7848.65.118.249.214.1164728802.squirrel@webmail.iowatelecom.net>
	<001201c71308$d252b410$6401a8c0@nant>
	<27904.65.118.249.214.1164742819.squirrel@webmail.iowatelecom.net>
Message-ID: <456C9CB5.30107@shaw.ca>

Try using XPATH  where syntax would  be "//SUBMITTING_PARTY/REQUEST/KEY/@*"
to move attributes into a collection that can be read.
or failing that just parse xmldoc.xml  for the attributes in partial xml 
string.

Sub xpathtest()
Dim strxml As String
Dim xmldoc As MSXML2.DOMDocument40
Dim nodes As MSXML2.IXMLDOMNodeList
Dim node  As MSXML2.IXMLDOMNode
Dim xmlError    As IXMLDOMParseError
Dim lngErrCode As Long

Set xmldoc = New MSXML2.DOMDocument40
    xmldoc.setProperty "SelectionLanguage", "XPath"
    xmldoc.async = False
    xmldoc.validateOnParse = False
   'xmldoc.resolveExternals = False
xmldoc.Load "C:\Access files\xmltests\Pria Path\pria.xml"
'
               lngErrCode = xmldoc.validate
           '  Debug.Print lngErrCode
            If xmldoc.parseError.errorCode <> 0 Then
                   Debug.Print " Reason: " & xmldoc.parseError.reason
                  Set xmlError = xmldoc.parseError
                   reportParseError xmlError
            End If
'xpath entity name case sensitive
'grab attributes with fee via XPath
Set nodes = xmldoc.selectNodes("//SUBMITTING_PARTY/REQUEST/KEY/@*")

'look through nodes collection
For Each node In nodes
    Debug.Print node.Text & " - " & node.nodeName
Next node

  Debug.Print xmldoc.xml
Set nodes = Nothing
Set xmldoc = Nothing
End Sub

Function reportParseError(err As IXMLDOMParseError)
  Dim s As String
  Dim r As String
  Dim i As Long
   s = ""
  For i = 1 To err.linepos - 1
    s = s & " "
  Next
  r = "XML Error loading " & err.url & " * " & err.reason
  Debug.Print r
    'show character postion of error; tired of counting
  If (err.Line > 0) Then
    r = "at line " & err.Line & ", character " & err.linepos & vbCrLf & _
         err.srcText & vbCrLf & s & "^"
  End If
  Debug.Print r
  End Function

Greg Smith wrote:

>Hi Shamil!
>
>Well, it was a DUH on me...I'd forgotten that I'd changed the text files
>somewhat and it was looking for information that wasn't in there ... once
>I fixed that, it worked!  Thanks!
>
>Now I have another question (endless, aren't they?).  All of these samples
>work fine with the XML text files that are "two" levels deep, such as, for
>the Shippers.xml2.txt file (I truncated the phone number because they were
>wrapping around):
>
><?xml version="1.0"?>
><datarows>
>    <Shippers CompanyName="Speedy Express" Phone="(503) ...
>    <Shippers CompanyName="United Package" Phone="(704) ...
>    <Shippers CompanyName="Federal Shipping" Phone="(503) ...
></datarows>
>
>The XML text file that I am trying to extract data from has many levels to
>it, although only a few are pertinent, they are several layers up inside
>the XML file (See below):
>
><?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?>
><REQUEST_GROUP>
>   <REQUESTING_PARTY/>
>   <RECEIVING_PARTY/>
>   <SUBMITTING_PARTY/>
>      <REQUEST>
>         <KEY _Name="SubmissionID" _Value="4281"/>
>         <KEY _Name="GroupName" _Value="JFB_Exemption20060831"/>
>         <KEY _Name="SubmissionNumber" _Value="0000000610...
>           <PRIA_REQUEST _Type="Other"_TypeOtherDescription="ES....
>	<PACKAGE>
>                      .
>                      .
>                      .
>
>When I take the existing 'working' file and add one layer to it, nothing
>is imported.  I don't get any errors, but I don't get any data either.
>
>Will these samples only work for one/two levels?  If I could use these
>(any one of them) to get the data from where I want, that would be
>perfect!  But in order to do that, I need to be able to search 'into' the
>xml file past the first level.
>
>For example, I have gotten it to work if I use the text file format as
>shown below:
>
><REQUEST>
>  <KEY _Name="..../>
>  <KEY _Name=".../>
></REQUEST>
>
>But if I add another grouping around the outside, it fails and extracts no
>data:
>
><REQUEST_GROUP>
>  <REQUEST>
>    <KEY _Name="..../>
>    <KEY _Name=".../>
>  </REQUEST>
></REQUEST_GROUP>
>
>Or is there a way to make it hit whatever level I want?  So far I've not
>been able to do that (yet).
>
>Thanks!
>Greg
>
>================
>Hello Greg,
>
>It works well here with MSXML v.6.0 - data are imported:
>
>Public Function Parse(ByVal vstrURL As String, ByVal vstrTableName As
>String, ByVal vavarFields As Variant)
>Dim reader As SAXXMLReader60 '30
>    mavarFields = vavarFields
>    mstrTableName = vstrTableName
>    mintFieldIndex = -1
>    mintFieldsCount = 0
>    Set reader = New SAXXMLReader60 '30
>    Set reader.contentHandler = Me
>    Set reader.errorHandler = Me
>    reader.parseURL vstrURL
>End Function
>
>I have no clear idea why it doesn't work there on you PC.
>Try to put breakpoints and debug/trace it...
>
>--
>Shamil
>
>
>
>  
>

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From martyconnelly at shaw.ca  Tue Nov 28 14:40:35 2006
From: martyconnelly at shaw.ca (MartyConnelly)
Date: Tue, 28 Nov 2006 12:40:35 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] OT Great reference site
In-Reply-To: <0J9G00AMEJA01ZR0@l-daemon>
References: <0J9G00AMEJA01ZR0@l-daemon>
Message-ID: <456C9EC3.2080800@shaw.ca>

Microsoft bought the company sysinternals.com  a couple of months back.

Jim Lawrence wrote:

>Hi All:
>
>Just discovered this site and it has already been able to resolve a system
>issues. It is a great site of utilities and diagnostic tools. 
>
>http://www.microsoft.com/technet/sysinternals/default.mspx
>
>HTH
>Jim 
>
>  
>

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From Kwilliamson at RTKL.com  Tue Nov 28 14:43:44 2006
From: Kwilliamson at RTKL.com (Keith Williamson)
Date: Tue, 28 Nov 2006 15:43:44 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Linked Table to SQL Database
Message-ID: <B61870319AC0CC42A143BA69E5798D08028A2E@fenwick.rtkl.rtkl.net>

Hey guys,

 

I've got a linked table to a Sql Server database.  The table has
approximately 2,000,000 (yes..that is TWO MILLION...PLUS) records in it.
The data goes back at least 10 years.  I only need the data for, at
most, this year onward.  Is there a way to limit the link, to only pull
out data older than 01/01/06?  I am sure that Access will really chug,
trying to go through the 2,000,000 records (if a query will even be able
to handle it.)

 

Thanks,

 

Keith E. Williamson | Assist. Controller| kwilliamson at rtkl.com

RTKL Associates Inc. | 901 South Bond Street | Baltimore, Maryland
21231-3305

410-537-6098 direct | 410-276-2136 fax | www.rtkl.com
<http://www.rtkl.com/> 

 



From bchacc at san.rr.com  Tue Nov 28 14:53:33 2006
From: bchacc at san.rr.com (Beach Access Software)
Date: Tue, 28 Nov 2006 12:53:33 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] ADO Problem
In-Reply-To: <EC829B33DF5B5B48A956B7A2E894AA9A0A8AB238@PLSWB06C.ad.sprint.com>
Message-ID: <011001c7132f$449d5220$6401a8c0@HAL9005>

I'll ask.  Thanks.

Rocky


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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of McGillivray, Don
[IT]
Sent: Tuesday, November 28, 2006 12:02 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] ADO Problem

Let's assume that the original error was the result of 11/28/2006 being
interpreted as "11 divided by 28 divided by 2006".  That's near enough to
zero to cause the date result of 1/1/1900.  The new error suggests that
since "#11" is not a number it is being seen as as a column name which is to
be divided by 28 and then by 2006.  #11 does not exist as a column name,
hence the error.  Is dtToday dimmed as a date datatype?  If not, that might
be the problem.

HTH

Don

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Software
Sent: Tuesday, November 28, 2006 11:36 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: Re: [AccessD] ADO Problem

Using:

"SELECT #" & dtToday & "#"

He gets an error message: 

Invalid column name '#11'

dtToaday does contain 11/28/2006

What else could it be?

MTIA

Rocky


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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of McGillivray, Don
[IT]
Sent: Tuesday, November 28, 2006 10:39 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] ADO Problem

Hi, Rocky.  

Just a WAG (I don't know ADO), but how 'bout:

?? Conn.Execute "INSERT INTO tWeeklyUpdateSent ( DateSent ) " & _
???????????????? "SELECT #" & dtToday & "#;" 

Don

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Sent: Tuesday, November 28, 2006 10:15 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] ADO Problem

Dear List:

A colleague (who thinks I know ADO) writes in to ask why the following:

?? Conn.Execute "INSERT INTO tWeeklyUpdateSent ( DateSent ) " & _
???????????????? "SELECT " & dtToday & ""

Inserts a record into tWeeklyUpdateSent so the conection is OK.  But but the
date is 1/1/1900 instead of today's date.

I had him check the contents of dtToday and it does indeed have 11/28/2006
in it.

Does anyone see what he's doing wrong here?


MTIA

Rocky


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From bchacc at san.rr.com  Tue Nov 28 14:58:34 2006
From: bchacc at san.rr.com (Beach Access Software)
Date: Tue, 28 Nov 2006 12:58:34 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] ADO Problem
In-Reply-To: <D0BF9C78D1C45C418541C852C8944FE20108626D@qub-xchange-01.ads.qub.ac.uk>
Message-ID: <011b01c7132f$f8385320$6401a8c0@HAL9005>

Seems to confirm that single quotes are needed to delimit the dates. 

Thanks Martin.

Rocky


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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Martin Reid
Sent: Tuesday, November 28, 2006 11:46 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] ADO Problem

Rocky
 
have a look at this
http://forums.microsoft.com/MSDN/ShowPost.aspx?PostID=741812&SiteID=1
 
Martin
 
 
Martin WP Reid
Training and Assessment Unit
Riddle Hall
Belfast
 
tel: 02890 974477
 

________________________________

From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com on behalf of Beach Access
Software
Sent: Tue 28/11/2006 19:36
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: Re: [AccessD] ADO Problem



Using:

"SELECT #" & dtToday & "#"

He gets an error message:

Invalid column name '#11'

dtToaday does contain 11/28/2006

What else could it be?

MTIA

Rocky


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of McGillivray, Don
[IT]
Sent: Tuesday, November 28, 2006 10:39 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] ADO Problem

Hi, Rocky. 

Just a WAG (I don't know ADO), but how 'bout:

   Conn.Execute "INSERT INTO tWeeklyUpdateSent ( DateSent ) " & _
                 "SELECT #" & dtToday & "#;"

Don

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Beach Access
Software
Sent: Tuesday, November 28, 2006 10:15 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] ADO Problem

Dear List:

A colleague (who thinks I know ADO) writes in to ask why the following:

   Conn.Execute "INSERT INTO tWeeklyUpdateSent ( DateSent ) " & _
                 "SELECT " & dtToday & ""

Inserts a record into tWeeklyUpdateSent so the conection is OK.  But but the
date is 1/1/1900 instead of today's date.

I had him check the contents of dtToday and it does indeed have 11/28/2006
in it.

Does anyone see what he's doing wrong here?


MTIA

Rocky


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From rusty.hammond at cpiqpc.com  Tue Nov 28 15:22:00 2006
From: rusty.hammond at cpiqpc.com (rusty.hammond at cpiqpc.com)
Date: Tue, 28 Nov 2006 15:22:00 -0600
Subject: [AccessD] Linked Table to SQL Database
Message-ID: <8301C8A868251E4C8ECD3D4FFEA40F8A2584B720@cpixchng-1.cpiqpc.net>

Keith,

Create a view on the SQL server that limits your records, then create the
link in Access to that view.

If you don't have the rights to the sql server to create the view, you can
create a pass-through query in Access and limit your records via a SQL
statement in the pass-through query.  A limitation of a pass-through query
is the data returned is read-only, which may may not work for your needs.

HTH,

Rusty

-----Original Message-----
From: Keith Williamson [mailto:Kwilliamson at rtkl.com]
Sent: Tuesday, November 28, 2006 2:44 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: [AccessD] Linked Table to SQL Database


Hey guys,

 

I've got a linked table to a Sql Server database.  The table has
approximately 2,000,000 (yes..that is TWO MILLION...PLUS) records in it.
The data goes back at least 10 years.  I only need the data for, at
most, this year onward.  Is there a way to limit the link, to only pull
out data older than 01/01/06?  I am sure that Access will really chug,
trying to go through the 2,000,000 records (if a query will even be able
to handle it.)

 

Thanks,

 

Keith E. Williamson | Assist. Controller| kwilliamson at rtkl.com

RTKL Associates Inc. | 901 South Bond Street | Baltimore, Maryland
21231-3305

410-537-6098 direct | 410-276-2136 fax | www.rtkl.com
<http://www.rtkl.com/> 

 

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From Kwilliamson at RTKL.com  Tue Nov 28 15:34:10 2006
From: Kwilliamson at RTKL.com (Keith Williamson)
Date: Tue, 28 Nov 2006 16:34:10 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Linked Table to SQL Database
In-Reply-To: <8301C8A868251E4C8ECD3D4FFEA40F8A2584B720@cpixchng-1.cpiqpc.net>
Message-ID: <B61870319AC0CC42A143BA69E5798D08028A66@fenwick.rtkl.rtkl.net>

Okay.  Thanks a lot!!

Regards,

Keith E. Williamson | Assist. Controller| kwilliamson at rtkl.com

RTKL Associates Inc. | 901 South Bond Street | Baltimore, Maryland
21231-3305

410-537-6098 direct | 410-276-2136 fax | www.rtkl.com

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of
rusty.hammond at cpiqpc.com
Sent: Tuesday, November 28, 2006 4:22 PM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Linked Table to SQL Database

Keith,

Create a view on the SQL server that limits your records, then create
the
link in Access to that view.

If you don't have the rights to the sql server to create the view, you
can
create a pass-through query in Access and limit your records via a SQL
statement in the pass-through query.  A limitation of a pass-through
query
is the data returned is read-only, which may may not work for your
needs.

HTH,

Rusty

-----Original Message-----
From: Keith Williamson [mailto:Kwilliamson at rtkl.com]
Sent: Tuesday, November 28, 2006 2:44 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: [AccessD] Linked Table to SQL Database


Hey guys,

 

I've got a linked table to a Sql Server database.  The table has
approximately 2,000,000 (yes..that is TWO MILLION...PLUS) records in it.
The data goes back at least 10 years.  I only need the data for, at
most, this year onward.  Is there a way to limit the link, to only pull
out data older than 01/01/06?  I am sure that Access will really chug,
trying to go through the 2,000,000 records (if a query will even be able
to handle it.)

 

Thanks,

 

Keith E. Williamson | Assist. Controller| kwilliamson at rtkl.com

RTKL Associates Inc. | 901 South Bond Street | Baltimore, Maryland
21231-3305

410-537-6098 direct | 410-276-2136 fax | www.rtkl.com
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From cfoust at infostatsystems.com  Tue Nov 28 15:37:21 2006
From: cfoust at infostatsystems.com (Charlotte Foust)
Date: Tue, 28 Nov 2006 13:37:21 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] ADO Problem
In-Reply-To: <011b01c7132f$f8385320$6401a8c0@HAL9005>
Message-ID: <F55048AF7E974F429BB24597D7355EEA17855E@INFOSERVER04.infostat.local>

ADO generally uses SQL Server syntax (i.e., no ; at the end and single
quotes around dates) rather than the Access SQL that DAO handles.

Charlotte Foust 

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Software
Sent: Tuesday, November 28, 2006 12:59 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: Re: [AccessD] ADO Problem

Seems to confirm that single quotes are needed to delimit the dates. 

Thanks Martin.

Rocky


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[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Martin Reid
Sent: Tuesday, November 28, 2006 11:46 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] ADO Problem

Rocky
 
have a look at this
http://forums.microsoft.com/MSDN/ShowPost.aspx?PostID=741812&SiteID=1
 
Martin
 
 
Martin WP Reid
Training and Assessment Unit
Riddle Hall
Belfast
 
tel: 02890 974477
 

________________________________

From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com on behalf of Beach Access
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Sent: Tue 28/11/2006 19:36
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: Re: [AccessD] ADO Problem



Using:

"SELECT #" & dtToday & "#"

He gets an error message:

Invalid column name '#11'

dtToaday does contain 11/28/2006

What else could it be?

MTIA

Rocky


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of McGillivray,
Don [IT]
Sent: Tuesday, November 28, 2006 10:39 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] ADO Problem

Hi, Rocky. 

Just a WAG (I don't know ADO), but how 'bout:

   Conn.Execute "INSERT INTO tWeeklyUpdateSent ( DateSent ) " & _
                 "SELECT #" & dtToday & "#;"

Don

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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Beach Access
Software
Sent: Tuesday, November 28, 2006 10:15 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] ADO Problem

Dear List:

A colleague (who thinks I know ADO) writes in to ask why the following:

   Conn.Execute "INSERT INTO tWeeklyUpdateSent ( DateSent ) " & _
                 "SELECT " & dtToday & ""

Inserts a record into tWeeklyUpdateSent so the conection is OK.  But but
the date is 1/1/1900 instead of today's date.

I had him check the contents of dtToday and it does indeed have
11/28/2006 in it.

Does anyone see what he's doing wrong here?


MTIA

Rocky


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From stuart at lexacorp.com.pg  Tue Nov 28 15:43:20 2006
From: stuart at lexacorp.com.pg (Stuart McLachlan)
Date: Wed, 29 Nov 2006 07:43:20 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] ADO Problem
In-Reply-To: <008501c71319$265e68a0$6401a8c0@HAL9005>
References: <008501c71319$265e68a0$6401a8c0@HAL9005>
Message-ID: <456CAD78.3567.1CF8BFAE@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>

On 28 Nov 2006 at 10:15, Beach Access Software wrote:

> Dear List:
> 
> A colleague (who thinks I know ADO) writes in to ask why the following:
> 
> ?? Conn.Execute "INSERT INTO tWeeklyUpdateSent ( DateSent ) " & _
> ???????????????? "SELECT " & dtToday & ""
> 
> Inserts a record into tWeeklyUpdateSent so the conection is OK.  But but the
> date is 1/1/1900 instead of today?s date.

You are building  a string which looks like:
INSERT INTO tWeeklyUpdateSent ( DateSent ) SELECT 11/28/2006

What you want is:
INSERT INTO tWeeklyUpdateSent ( DateSent ) SELECT '11/28/2006'

so you need to use
 ... "SELECT '" & dtToday & "'"
(note the two single quotes)

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From martyconnelly at shaw.ca  Tue Nov 28 15:49:58 2006
From: martyconnelly at shaw.ca (MartyConnelly)
Date: Tue, 28 Nov 2006 13:49:58 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] ADO Problem
In-Reply-To: <011001c7132f$449d5220$6401a8c0@HAL9005>
References: <011001c7132f$449d5220$6401a8c0@HAL9005>
Message-ID: <456CAF06.7070001@shaw.ca>

Try this to see what is happening.

Debug.Print "INSERT INTO tWeeklyUpdateSent ( DateSent ) " &  "SELECT #" 
& dtToday & "#;"

Beach Access Software wrote:

>I'll ask.  Thanks.
>
>Rocky
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of McGillivray, Don
>[IT]
>Sent: Tuesday, November 28, 2006 12:02 PM
>To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
>Subject: Re: [AccessD] ADO Problem
>
>Let's assume that the original error was the result of 11/28/2006 being
>interpreted as "11 divided by 28 divided by 2006".  That's near enough to
>zero to cause the date result of 1/1/1900.  The new error suggests that
>since "#11" is not a number it is being seen as as a column name which is to
>be divided by 28 and then by 2006.  #11 does not exist as a column name,
>hence the error.  Is dtToday dimmed as a date datatype?  If not, that might
>be the problem.
>
>HTH
>
>Don
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Beach Access
>Software
>Sent: Tuesday, November 28, 2006 11:36 AM
>To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
>Subject: Re: [AccessD] ADO Problem
>
>Using:
>
>"SELECT #" & dtToday & "#"
>
>He gets an error message: 
>
>Invalid column name '#11'
>
>dtToaday does contain 11/28/2006
>
>What else could it be?
>
>MTIA
>
>Rocky
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of McGillivray, Don
>[IT]
>Sent: Tuesday, November 28, 2006 10:39 AM
>To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
>Subject: Re: [AccessD] ADO Problem
>
>Hi, Rocky.  
>
>Just a WAG (I don't know ADO), but how 'bout:
>
>   Conn.Execute "INSERT INTO tWeeklyUpdateSent ( DateSent ) " & _
>                 "SELECT #" & dtToday & "#;" 
>
>Don
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Beach Access
>Software
>Sent: Tuesday, November 28, 2006 10:15 AM
>To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
>Subject: [AccessD] ADO Problem
>
>Dear List:
>
>A colleague (who thinks I know ADO) writes in to ask why the following:
>
>   Conn.Execute "INSERT INTO tWeeklyUpdateSent ( DateSent ) " & _
>                 "SELECT " & dtToday & ""
>
>Inserts a record into tWeeklyUpdateSent so the conection is OK.  But but the
>date is 1/1/1900 instead of today's date.
>
>I had him check the contents of dtToday and it does indeed have 11/28/2006
>in it.
>
>Does anyone see what he's doing wrong here?
>
>
>MTIA
>
>Rocky
>
>
>  
>

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Canada



From artful at rogers.com  Tue Nov 28 16:00:15 2006
From: artful at rogers.com (artful at rogers.com)
Date: Tue, 28 Nov 2006 14:00:15 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [AccessD] ADO Problem
Message-ID: <20061128220015.76125.qmail@web88207.mail.re2.yahoo.com>

It would appear that dtToday has been declared but not initialized with value other than its default.


----- Original Message ----
From: Beach Access Software <bchacc at san.rr.com>
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Tuesday, November 28, 2006 1:15:13 PM
Subject: [AccessD] ADO Problem


Dear List:

A colleague (who thinks I know ADO) writes in to ask why the following:

   Conn.Execute "INSERT INTO tWeeklyUpdateSent ( DateSent ) " & _
                 "SELECT " & dtToday & ""

Inserts a record into tWeeklyUpdateSent so the conection is OK.  But but the
date is 1/1/1900 instead of today?s date.

I had him check the contents of dtToday and it does indeed have 11/28/2006
in it.

Does anyone see what he's doing wrong here?


MTIA

Rocky


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From kp at sdsonline.net  Tue Nov 28 16:03:38 2006
From: kp at sdsonline.net (Kath Pelletti)
Date: Wed, 29 Nov 2006 09:03:38 +1100
Subject: [AccessD] Rich text control as html
References: <001901c71294$bf6c8b10$6501a8c0@office>,
	<002201c712b5$7ab98e70$3e3de844@50NM721>
	<456C6885.23119.164CF691@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>
Message-ID: <001301c71339$0f87a540$6501a8c0@office>

Thanks Stuart / William

Kath
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Stuart McLachlan 
  To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving 
  Sent: Tuesday, November 28, 2006 5:49 PM
  Subject: Re: [AccessD] Rich text control as html


  On 28 Nov 2006 at 1:21, William Hindman wrote:

  > Kath
  > 
  > www.lebans.com ...look for his RTF ocx ...its free and works well in all 
  > versions A97-A2k3 ...plus he's on the msaccess newsgroups regularly and will 
  > answer any problems you might have in your implementation if you post it 
  > there ...I use it in several apps to allow user edit and format of text 
  > portions of reports that go to their customers ...since the rtf is stored in 
  > an mdb table you should be able to export it as html using Access' own 
  > export capabilities.


  Alternatively, once you have the text as RTF,  use
  RTF2HTML from http://www2.bitstream.net/~bradyh/downloads/rtf2htmlrm.html
  to convert the RFT string to an HTML string and use standard File IO to write the string to a file.







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From artful at rogers.com  Tue Nov 28 16:20:35 2006
From: artful at rogers.com (artful at rogers.com)
Date: Tue, 28 Nov 2006 14:20:35 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [AccessD] Linked Table to SQL Database
Message-ID: <20061128222035.313.qmail@web88211.mail.re2.yahoo.com>

You can also employ a technique called horizontal partitioning, which will break the large table into two or more chunks that exist as several physical files. The advantage to this approach is that if and when you ever need to, you can address the whole table easily. Look in BOL for Horizontal Partitioning.

Arthur


----- Original Message ----
From: Keith Williamson <Kwilliamson at rtkl.com>
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Tuesday, November 28, 2006 4:34:10 PM
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Linked Table to SQL Database


Okay.  Thanks a lot!!

Regards,

Keith E. Williamson | Assist. Controller| kwilliamson at rtkl.com

RTKL Associates Inc. | 901 South Bond Street | Baltimore, Maryland
21231-3305

410-537-6098 direct | 410-276-2136 fax | www.rtkl.com

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of
rusty.hammond at cpiqpc.com
Sent: Tuesday, November 28, 2006 4:22 PM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Linked Table to SQL Database

Keith,

Create a view on the SQL server that limits your records, then create
the
link in Access to that view.

If you don't have the rights to the sql server to create the view, you
can
create a pass-through query in Access and limit your records via a SQL
statement in the pass-through query.  A limitation of a pass-through
query
is the data returned is read-only, which may may not work for your
needs.

HTH,

Rusty

-----Original Message-----
From: Keith Williamson [mailto:Kwilliamson at rtkl.com]
Sent: Tuesday, November 28, 2006 2:44 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: [AccessD] Linked Table to SQL Database


Hey guys,



I've got a linked table to a Sql Server database.  The table has
approximately 2,000,000 (yes..that is TWO MILLION...PLUS) records in it.
The data goes back at least 10 years.  I only need the data for, at
most, this year onward.  Is there a way to limit the link, to only pull
out data older than 01/01/06?  I am sure that Access will really chug,
trying to go through the 2,000,000 records (if a query will even be able
to handle it.)



Thanks,



Keith E. Williamson | Assist. Controller| kwilliamson at rtkl.com

RTKL Associates Inc. | 901 South Bond Street | Baltimore, Maryland
21231-3305

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From pedro at plex.nl  Tue Nov 28 16:43:47 2006
From: pedro at plex.nl (Pedro Janssen)
Date: Tue, 28 Nov 2006 23:43:47 +0100
Subject: [AccessD] saving values
References: <007101c7130d$cebf61e0$6401a8c0@HAL9005>
Message-ID: <006401c7133e$aaa468b0$4001a8c0@qmotionfaa3ad9>

Hello Rocky,

no problem,
i am glad you wil have a look at the problem.

Pedro Janssen



----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Beach Access Software" <bchacc at san.rr.com>
To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'" 
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Tuesday, November 28, 2006 5:54 PM
Subject: Re: [AccessD] saving values


> Pedro:
>
> Haven't forgotten about you but I'm a little backed up this morning. 
> Stand
> by...
>
> Rocky
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Pedro Janssen
> Sent: Monday, November 27, 2006 3:05 PM
> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] saving values
>
> Hello Rocky,
>
> In this testdatabase is just want to make the cascadecombox selection 
> trying
>
> to work, for a major Fossil Database.
> The Main Table in the test is tblFossieldata (fossildata). The form
> frmFossielData is bound to that table.
> In this table you see the fields Era, Periode, Epoch, Etage and Tijd. 
> These
> are Geological Timetable fields. These fields are just textfields
>
> The table tblTijdschaal (timescale) I filled with the vlues that i want to
> use in the tblFossielData, in the fields that i mentioned before.
> Normally i would do this with a combobox for each, but the list of 
> timescale
>
> is very large, so i would simplify that by using a cascadecombo, that is
> present in frmTijdschaal.
>
> When opening a record in frmFossielData, and field Era gets the focus (in
> the real database there wil be a button click event), the unbound subform
> gets the focus.
> By using the cascade, Each field is filtered by the value of the combobox
> before.
> When selected the values in the five cascade comboboxes, i want to close 
> the
>
> frmTijdschaal en the values of Era.frmTijdschaal must be placed in the 
> field
>
> Era of frmFossielData, etc for the other four fields.
>
> Pedro Janssen
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Beach Access Software" <bchacc at san.rr.com>
> To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'"
> <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
> Sent: Monday, November 27, 2006 11:31 PM
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] saving values
>
>
>> Pedro:
>>
>> You are using my variable name lngKeyValue for the criterion in the WHERE
>> clause to limit the recordset to the one record you are looking for.  You
>> should use the value of the field from the combo box, instead.
>>
>> And I'm not clear on what you're trying to store or what the relationship
>> is
>> between the two tables.  So I can't be more precise.
>>
>> Tell me again the user process and what you're trying to accomplish.
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Rocky
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Pedro Janssen
>> Sent: Monday, November 27, 2006 11:51 AM
>> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
>> Subject: Re: [AccessD] saving values
>>
>> Hello Rocky,
>>
>> the message that is get back is "Holy Moly!  There's No Records In
>> Here!!! -
>>
>> 0
>>
>> That is strange, because in record two the FossielID (Primary Key of the
>> table) value is 2 (auto Number field).
>>
>> Ik could sent you the small test.mdb,
>> maybe you have seen the problem then in a minute?
>>
>> Pedro Janssen
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Beach Access Software" <bchacc at san.rr.com>
>> To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'"
>> <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
>> Sent: Monday, November 27, 2006 4:39 PM
>> Subject: Re: [AccessD] saving values
>>
>>
>>> Pedro:
>>>
>>> Just a guess but perhaps using the WHERE clause returns no records
>>> because
>>> the value for the PK you're using is invalid.
>>>
>>> After the set rs = statement put
>>>
>>> If rs.bof=true and rs.eof=true then
>>> Msgbox "Holy Moly!  There's No Records In Here!!! - " &
>>> lngKeyValue
>>> Exit sub
>>> End if
>>>
>>> To see if that's the case and what the value is of the key you're
>>> apssing.
>>>
>>> Post the set rs = statement and let's have a look at it.
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>>
>>> Rocky
>>>
>>>
>>> If it is then
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>>> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Pedro Janssen
>>> Sent: Monday, November 27, 2006 6:55 AM
>>> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
>>> Subject: Re: [AccessD] saving values
>>>
>>> Hello Rocky,
>>>
>>> i included the Where statement, but get an eror when closing the subform
>>> with the code:
>>> Runtime error 3201, no current record.
>>> When clicking debug button, rs!edit is highlited yellow.
>>>
>>> I used help, but still do not understand it.
>>>
>>> Pedro Janssen
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>> From: "Beach Access Software" <bchacc at san.rr.com>
>>> To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'"
>>> <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
>>> Sent: Monday, November 27, 2006 2:59 AM
>>> Subject: Re: [AccessD] saving values
>>>
>>>
>>>> Pedro:
>>>>
>>>> You need to add the WHERE clause to your set statement:
>>>>
>>>> Set rs = db.OpenRecordset("Select Era, Periode, Epoch, Etage, Tijd FROM
>>>> tblFossielData WHERE tblFossielDataPrimaryKey = " & lngKeyValue)
>>>>
>>>> Do you know what the primary key value is of the record you want to
>>>> update
>>>> with the values from the unbound text boxes?
>>>>
>>>> Rocky
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>>>> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Pedro 
>>>> Janssen
>>>> Sent: Sunday, November 26, 2006 2:31 AM
>>>> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
>>>> Subject: Re: [AccessD] saving values
>>>>
>>>> Hello,
>>>>
>>>> how would i point to the first record in the Where clausule with the 
>>>> ID?
>>>> I am placing values from a unbound form, with no ID in a bound form 
>>>> with
>>>> an
>>>> ID (= FossielID).
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Please give me an idea to do this in the code below?
>>>>
>>>> Pedro Janssen
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>>> From: "Beach Access Software" <bchacc at san.rr.com>
>>>> To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'"
>>>> <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
>>>> Sent: Saturday, November 25, 2006 10:30 PM
>>>> Subject: Re: [AccessD] saving values
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Pedro:
>>>>>
>>>>> It looks like you are opening the table with all of the records.  So
>>>>> the
>>>>> record pointer of the recor4dset is always pointing to the first
>>>>> record.
>>>>> You need to either 1) use a WHERE clause in the Set rs =
>>>>> db.OpenRecordset
>>>>> so
>>>>> you get only the record you want, or 2) after opening the recordset 
>>>>> use
>>>>> rs.FindFirst and specify the primary key of the record you want to
>>>>> update.
>>>>> Then the recordset will be positioned at the record you want to 
>>>>> update.
>>>>> Be
>>>>> sure to use if rs.NoMatch just in case the FindFirst doesn't find the
>>>>> record.
>>>>>
>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>
>>>>> Rocky
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>>>>> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Pedro
>>>>> Janssen
>>>>> Sent: Saturday, November 25, 2006 12:37 PM
>>>>> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
>>>>> Subject: Re: [AccessD] saving values
>>>>>
>>>>> Hello Rocky (and Others),
>>>>>
>>>>> the code is working fine, but only for the first record on the form.
>>>>> When i try to use it on the second record (after closing) it jumps to
>>>>> record
>>>>>
>>>>> one and overwrite's the data there.
>>>>> Trying to put the where statement in it to state that ID = ID, it 
>>>>> gives
>>>>> an
>>>>> error on record two that it expects parameter = 1.
>>>>>
>>>>> The code that i use now:
>>>>>
>>>>> Private Sub Form_Close()
>>>>>
>>>>> Dim db As DAO.Database
>>>>> Dim rs As DAO.Recordset
>>>>>
>>>>> Set db = CurrentDb
>>>>> Set rs = db.OpenRecordset("Select Era, Periode, Epoch, Etage, Tijd 
>>>>> FROM
>>>>> tblFossielData")
>>>>>
>>>>> rs.Edit
>>>>> rs!Era = cboEra
>>>>> rs!Periode = cboPeriode
>>>>> rs!Epoch = cboEpoch
>>>>> rs!Etage = cboEtage
>>>>> rs!Tijd = cboTijd
>>>>> rs.Update
>>>>>
>>>>> rs.Close
>>>>> db.Close
>>>>>
>>>>> Set rs = Nothing
>>>>> Set db = Nothing
>>>>>
>>>>> Me.Requery
>>>>>
>>>>> End Sub
>>>>>
>>>>> What can i do about this?
>>>>>
>>>>> Pedro Janssen
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>>>> From: "Beach Access Software" <bchacc at san.rr.com>
>>>>> To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'"
>>>>> <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
>>>>> Sent: Friday, November 24, 2006 9:09 PM
>>>>> Subject: Re: [AccessD] saving values
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Pedro:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Just off the top and untested:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Dim db as DAO.Database
>>>>>> Dim rs as DAO.Recordset
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Set db = CurrentDb
>>>>>> Set rs = db.OpenRecordset("Select fldOne, fldTwo, fldThree FROM
>>>>>> tblMyTable
>>>>>> WHERE fldPK = " & lngPrimaryKey)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ' Note: You could use any criteria you want in the WHERE clause;
>>>>>> doesn't
>>>>>> have to be the primary key.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> rs.Edit
>>>>>> rs!fldOne = cboComboBox1
>>>>>> rs!fldTwo = cboComboBox2
>>>>>> rs!fldThree = cboComboBox3
>>>>>> rs.Update
>>>>>>
>>>>>> rs.Close
>>>>>> db.Close
>>>>>>
>>>>>> set rs = Nothing
>>>>>> set db = Nothing
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Me.Requery (assuming you want the values to show on the bound form.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Or here's another approach which I think should work but I haven't
>>>>>> tested:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Set db = CurrentDb
>>>>>> Db.Execute "UPDATE tblMyTable SET tblMyTable.fldOne = '" &
>>>>>> cboComboBox1
>>>>>> &
>>>>>> "', tblMyTable.fldTwo= '" & cboComboBox2 & "', tblMyTable.fldThree =
>>>>>> '"
>>>>>> &
>>>>>> cboComboBox3 & "';"
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Note that I have assumes that the values are string values and so 
>>>>>> need
>>>>>> to
>>>>>> have preceding and following apostrophes.  If the values are numeric
>>>>>> then
>>>>>> they won't need the '.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I'm sure someone else looking at this code will make the appropriate
>>>>>> corrections.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Rocky
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>>>>>> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Pedro
>>>>>> Janssen
>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, November 23, 2006 3:35 PM
>>>>>> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [AccessD] saving values
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hello Rocky,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> could you give me an example of that, preferably in a example
>>>>>> database.
>>>>>> I have tried several things until now but nothing is working perfect.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Pedro Janssen
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>>>>> From: "Beach Access Software" <bchacc at san.rr.com>
>>>>>> To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'"
>>>>>> <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
>>>>>> Sent: Friday, November 24, 2006 12:07 AM
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [AccessD] saving values
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I'd use Dao, open the record in question, push the value in, and
>>>>>>> requery
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>> form.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Rocky
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>>>>>>> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Pedro
>>>>>>> Janssen
>>>>>>> Sent: 23 November 2006 13:32
>>>>>>> To: AccessD
>>>>>>> Subject: [AccessD] saving values
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hello Group,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> i still have troubles saving values from unbound comboxes (cascade)
>>>>>>> in
>>>>>>> table
>>>>>>> fields.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> What is the best way to do this.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Pedro Janssen
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From rusty.hammond at cpiqpc.com  Tue Nov 28 16:43:40 2006
From: rusty.hammond at cpiqpc.com (rusty.hammond at cpiqpc.com)
Date: Tue, 28 Nov 2006 16:43:40 -0600
Subject: [AccessD] Linked Table to SQL Database
Message-ID: <8301C8A868251E4C8ECD3D4FFEA40F8A2584B722@cpixchng-1.cpiqpc.net>

Arthur,

Interesting approach.  I've done some brief reading BOL and I can see where
this could speed up a few applications I have here.

Thanks!

Rusty

-----Original Message-----
From: artful at rogers.com [mailto:artful at rogers.com]
Sent: Tuesday, November 28, 2006 4:21 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Linked Table to SQL Database


You can also employ a technique called horizontal partitioning, which will
break the large table into two or more chunks that exist as several physical
files. The advantage to this approach is that if and when you ever need to,
you can address the whole table easily. Look in BOL for Horizontal
Partitioning.

Arthur


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To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
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Sent: Tuesday, November 28, 2006 4:34:10 PM
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Linked Table to SQL Database


Okay.  Thanks a lot!!

Regards,

Keith E. Williamson | Assist. Controller| kwilliamson at rtkl.com

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21231-3305

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Sent: Tuesday, November 28, 2006 4:22 PM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Linked Table to SQL Database

Keith,

Create a view on the SQL server that limits your records, then create
the
link in Access to that view.

If you don't have the rights to the sql server to create the view, you
can
create a pass-through query in Access and limit your records via a SQL
statement in the pass-through query.  A limitation of a pass-through
query
is the data returned is read-only, which may may not work for your
needs.

HTH,

Rusty

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Sent: Tuesday, November 28, 2006 2:44 PM
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Subject: [AccessD] Linked Table to SQL Database


Hey guys,



I've got a linked table to a Sql Server database.  The table has
approximately 2,000,000 (yes..that is TWO MILLION...PLUS) records in it.
The data goes back at least 10 years.  I only need the data for, at
most, this year onward.  Is there a way to limit the link, to only pull
out data older than 01/01/06?  I am sure that Access will really chug,
trying to go through the 2,000,000 records (if a query will even be able
to handle it.)



Thanks,



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From pedro at plex.nl  Tue Nov 28 17:10:09 2006
From: pedro at plex.nl (Pedro Janssen)
Date: Wed, 29 Nov 2006 00:10:09 +0100
Subject: [AccessD] saving values
References: <007101c7130d$cebf61e0$6401a8c0@HAL9005>
Message-ID: <000c01c71342$59e52ff0$4001a8c0@qmotionfaa3ad9>

Hello Rocky,

i have thought about the problem to.
On the unbound form i have put a textbos with the controlsource is refered 
to the ID-field in the Bound form,
so ik kan put both in the Where statement, but then the field is requeried 
after losing the focus (values are filled in),
it jumps to record one.
I will send you the zipped testdatabase again.

Pedro Janssen



----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Beach Access Software" <bchacc at san.rr.com>
To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'" 
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Tuesday, November 28, 2006 5:54 PM
Subject: Re: [AccessD] saving values


> Pedro:
>
> Haven't forgotten about you but I'm a little backed up this morning. 
> Stand
> by...
>
> Rocky
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Pedro Janssen
> Sent: Monday, November 27, 2006 3:05 PM
> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] saving values
>
> Hello Rocky,
>
> In this testdatabase is just want to make the cascadecombox selection 
> trying
>
> to work, for a major Fossil Database.
> The Main Table in the test is tblFossieldata (fossildata). The form
> frmFossielData is bound to that table.
> In this table you see the fields Era, Periode, Epoch, Etage and Tijd. 
> These
> are Geological Timetable fields. These fields are just textfields
>
> The table tblTijdschaal (timescale) I filled with the vlues that i want to
> use in the tblFossielData, in the fields that i mentioned before.
> Normally i would do this with a combobox for each, but the list of 
> timescale
>
> is very large, so i would simplify that by using a cascadecombo, that is
> present in frmTijdschaal.
>
> When opening a record in frmFossielData, and field Era gets the focus (in
> the real database there wil be a button click event), the unbound subform
> gets the focus.
> By using the cascade, Each field is filtered by the value of the combobox
> before.
> When selected the values in the five cascade comboboxes, i want to close 
> the
>
> frmTijdschaal en the values of Era.frmTijdschaal must be placed in the 
> field
>
> Era of frmFossielData, etc for the other four fields.
>
> Pedro Janssen
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Beach Access Software" <bchacc at san.rr.com>
> To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'"
> <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
> Sent: Monday, November 27, 2006 11:31 PM
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] saving values
>
>
>> Pedro:
>>
>> You are using my variable name lngKeyValue for the criterion in the WHERE
>> clause to limit the recordset to the one record you are looking for.  You
>> should use the value of the field from the combo box, instead.
>>
>> And I'm not clear on what you're trying to store or what the relationship
>> is
>> between the two tables.  So I can't be more precise.
>>
>> Tell me again the user process and what you're trying to accomplish.
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Rocky
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Pedro Janssen
>> Sent: Monday, November 27, 2006 11:51 AM
>> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
>> Subject: Re: [AccessD] saving values
>>
>> Hello Rocky,
>>
>> the message that is get back is "Holy Moly!  There's No Records In
>> Here!!! -
>>
>> 0
>>
>> That is strange, because in record two the FossielID (Primary Key of the
>> table) value is 2 (auto Number field).
>>
>> Ik could sent you the small test.mdb,
>> maybe you have seen the problem then in a minute?
>>
>> Pedro Janssen
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Beach Access Software" <bchacc at san.rr.com>
>> To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'"
>> <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
>> Sent: Monday, November 27, 2006 4:39 PM
>> Subject: Re: [AccessD] saving values
>>
>>
>>> Pedro:
>>>
>>> Just a guess but perhaps using the WHERE clause returns no records
>>> because
>>> the value for the PK you're using is invalid.
>>>
>>> After the set rs = statement put
>>>
>>> If rs.bof=true and rs.eof=true then
>>> Msgbox "Holy Moly!  There's No Records In Here!!! - " &
>>> lngKeyValue
>>> Exit sub
>>> End if
>>>
>>> To see if that's the case and what the value is of the key you're
>>> apssing.
>>>
>>> Post the set rs = statement and let's have a look at it.
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>>
>>> Rocky
>>>
>>>
>>> If it is then
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>>> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Pedro Janssen
>>> Sent: Monday, November 27, 2006 6:55 AM
>>> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
>>> Subject: Re: [AccessD] saving values
>>>
>>> Hello Rocky,
>>>
>>> i included the Where statement, but get an eror when closing the subform
>>> with the code:
>>> Runtime error 3201, no current record.
>>> When clicking debug button, rs!edit is highlited yellow.
>>>
>>> I used help, but still do not understand it.
>>>
>>> Pedro Janssen
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>> From: "Beach Access Software" <bchacc at san.rr.com>
>>> To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'"
>>> <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
>>> Sent: Monday, November 27, 2006 2:59 AM
>>> Subject: Re: [AccessD] saving values
>>>
>>>
>>>> Pedro:
>>>>
>>>> You need to add the WHERE clause to your set statement:
>>>>
>>>> Set rs = db.OpenRecordset("Select Era, Periode, Epoch, Etage, Tijd FROM
>>>> tblFossielData WHERE tblFossielDataPrimaryKey = " & lngKeyValue)
>>>>
>>>> Do you know what the primary key value is of the record you want to
>>>> update
>>>> with the values from the unbound text boxes?
>>>>
>>>> Rocky
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>>>> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Pedro 
>>>> Janssen
>>>> Sent: Sunday, November 26, 2006 2:31 AM
>>>> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
>>>> Subject: Re: [AccessD] saving values
>>>>
>>>> Hello,
>>>>
>>>> how would i point to the first record in the Where clausule with the 
>>>> ID?
>>>> I am placing values from a unbound form, with no ID in a bound form 
>>>> with
>>>> an
>>>> ID (= FossielID).
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Please give me an idea to do this in the code below?
>>>>
>>>> Pedro Janssen
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>>> From: "Beach Access Software" <bchacc at san.rr.com>
>>>> To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'"
>>>> <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
>>>> Sent: Saturday, November 25, 2006 10:30 PM
>>>> Subject: Re: [AccessD] saving values
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Pedro:
>>>>>
>>>>> It looks like you are opening the table with all of the records.  So
>>>>> the
>>>>> record pointer of the recor4dset is always pointing to the first
>>>>> record.
>>>>> You need to either 1) use a WHERE clause in the Set rs =
>>>>> db.OpenRecordset
>>>>> so
>>>>> you get only the record you want, or 2) after opening the recordset 
>>>>> use
>>>>> rs.FindFirst and specify the primary key of the record you want to
>>>>> update.
>>>>> Then the recordset will be positioned at the record you want to 
>>>>> update.
>>>>> Be
>>>>> sure to use if rs.NoMatch just in case the FindFirst doesn't find the
>>>>> record.
>>>>>
>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>
>>>>> Rocky
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>>>>> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Pedro
>>>>> Janssen
>>>>> Sent: Saturday, November 25, 2006 12:37 PM
>>>>> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
>>>>> Subject: Re: [AccessD] saving values
>>>>>
>>>>> Hello Rocky (and Others),
>>>>>
>>>>> the code is working fine, but only for the first record on the form.
>>>>> When i try to use it on the second record (after closing) it jumps to
>>>>> record
>>>>>
>>>>> one and overwrite's the data there.
>>>>> Trying to put the where statement in it to state that ID = ID, it 
>>>>> gives
>>>>> an
>>>>> error on record two that it expects parameter = 1.
>>>>>
>>>>> The code that i use now:
>>>>>
>>>>> Private Sub Form_Close()
>>>>>
>>>>> Dim db As DAO.Database
>>>>> Dim rs As DAO.Recordset
>>>>>
>>>>> Set db = CurrentDb
>>>>> Set rs = db.OpenRecordset("Select Era, Periode, Epoch, Etage, Tijd 
>>>>> FROM
>>>>> tblFossielData")
>>>>>
>>>>> rs.Edit
>>>>> rs!Era = cboEra
>>>>> rs!Periode = cboPeriode
>>>>> rs!Epoch = cboEpoch
>>>>> rs!Etage = cboEtage
>>>>> rs!Tijd = cboTijd
>>>>> rs.Update
>>>>>
>>>>> rs.Close
>>>>> db.Close
>>>>>
>>>>> Set rs = Nothing
>>>>> Set db = Nothing
>>>>>
>>>>> Me.Requery
>>>>>
>>>>> End Sub
>>>>>
>>>>> What can i do about this?
>>>>>
>>>>> Pedro Janssen
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>>>> From: "Beach Access Software" <bchacc at san.rr.com>
>>>>> To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'"
>>>>> <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
>>>>> Sent: Friday, November 24, 2006 9:09 PM
>>>>> Subject: Re: [AccessD] saving values
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Pedro:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Just off the top and untested:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Dim db as DAO.Database
>>>>>> Dim rs as DAO.Recordset
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Set db = CurrentDb
>>>>>> Set rs = db.OpenRecordset("Select fldOne, fldTwo, fldThree FROM
>>>>>> tblMyTable
>>>>>> WHERE fldPK = " & lngPrimaryKey)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ' Note: You could use any criteria you want in the WHERE clause;
>>>>>> doesn't
>>>>>> have to be the primary key.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> rs.Edit
>>>>>> rs!fldOne = cboComboBox1
>>>>>> rs!fldTwo = cboComboBox2
>>>>>> rs!fldThree = cboComboBox3
>>>>>> rs.Update
>>>>>>
>>>>>> rs.Close
>>>>>> db.Close
>>>>>>
>>>>>> set rs = Nothing
>>>>>> set db = Nothing
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Me.Requery (assuming you want the values to show on the bound form.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Or here's another approach which I think should work but I haven't
>>>>>> tested:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Set db = CurrentDb
>>>>>> Db.Execute "UPDATE tblMyTable SET tblMyTable.fldOne = '" &
>>>>>> cboComboBox1
>>>>>> &
>>>>>> "', tblMyTable.fldTwo= '" & cboComboBox2 & "', tblMyTable.fldThree =
>>>>>> '"
>>>>>> &
>>>>>> cboComboBox3 & "';"
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Note that I have assumes that the values are string values and so 
>>>>>> need
>>>>>> to
>>>>>> have preceding and following apostrophes.  If the values are numeric
>>>>>> then
>>>>>> they won't need the '.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I'm sure someone else looking at this code will make the appropriate
>>>>>> corrections.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Rocky
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>>>>>> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Pedro
>>>>>> Janssen
>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, November 23, 2006 3:35 PM
>>>>>> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [AccessD] saving values
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hello Rocky,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> could you give me an example of that, preferably in a example
>>>>>> database.
>>>>>> I have tried several things until now but nothing is working perfect.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Pedro Janssen
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>>>>> From: "Beach Access Software" <bchacc at san.rr.com>
>>>>>> To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'"
>>>>>> <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
>>>>>> Sent: Friday, November 24, 2006 12:07 AM
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [AccessD] saving values
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I'd use Dao, open the record in question, push the value in, and
>>>>>>> requery
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>> form.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Rocky
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>>>>>>> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Pedro
>>>>>>> Janssen
>>>>>>> Sent: 23 November 2006 13:32
>>>>>>> To: AccessD
>>>>>>> Subject: [AccessD] saving values
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hello Group,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> i still have troubles saving values from unbound comboxes (cascade)
>>>>>>> in
>>>>>>> table
>>>>>>> fields.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> What is the best way to do this.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Pedro Janssen
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From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com  Tue Nov 28 17:53:25 2006
From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (JWColby)
Date: Tue, 28 Nov 2006 18:53:25 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Linked Table to SQL Database
In-Reply-To: <20061128222035.313.qmail@web88211.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <006c01c71348$65b014c0$657aa8c0@m6805>

Whoa, that sounds handy. 


John W. Colby
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-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of artful at rogers.com
Sent: Tuesday, November 28, 2006 5:21 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Linked Table to SQL Database

You can also employ a technique called horizontal partitioning, which will
break the large table into two or more chunks that exist as several physical
files. The advantage to this approach is that if and when you ever need to,
you can address the whole table easily. Look in BOL for Horizontal
Partitioning.

Arthur


----- Original Message ----
From: Keith Williamson <Kwilliamson at rtkl.com>
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Tuesday, November 28, 2006 4:34:10 PM
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Linked Table to SQL Database


Okay.  Thanks a lot!!

Regards,

Keith E. Williamson | Assist. Controller| kwilliamson at rtkl.com

RTKL Associates Inc. | 901 South Bond Street | Baltimore, Maryland
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-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of
rusty.hammond at cpiqpc.com
Sent: Tuesday, November 28, 2006 4:22 PM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Linked Table to SQL Database

Keith,

Create a view on the SQL server that limits your records, then create the
link in Access to that view.

If you don't have the rights to the sql server to create the view, you can
create a pass-through query in Access and limit your records via a SQL
statement in the pass-through query.  A limitation of a pass-through query
is the data returned is read-only, which may may not work for your needs.

HTH,

Rusty

-----Original Message-----
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Sent: Tuesday, November 28, 2006 2:44 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: [AccessD] Linked Table to SQL Database


Hey guys,



I've got a linked table to a Sql Server database.  The table has
approximately 2,000,000 (yes..that is TWO MILLION...PLUS) records in it.
The data goes back at least 10 years.  I only need the data for, at most,
this year onward.  Is there a way to limit the link, to only pull out data
older than 01/01/06?  I am sure that Access will really chug, trying to go
through the 2,000,000 records (if a query will even be able to handle it.)



Thanks,



Keith E. Williamson | Assist. Controller| kwilliamson at rtkl.com

RTKL Associates Inc. | 901 South Bond Street | Baltimore, Maryland
21231-3305

410-537-6098 direct | 410-276-2136 fax | www.rtkl.com <http://www.rtkl.com/>




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From shamil at users.mns.ru  Tue Nov 28 14:03:40 2006
From: shamil at users.mns.ru (Shamil Salakhetdinov)
Date: Tue, 28 Nov 2006 23:03:40 +0300
Subject: [AccessD] ADO Problem
In-Reply-To: <00b901c71324$71176ee0$6401a8c0@HAL9005>
Message-ID: <000801c71328$4c8458f0$6401a8c0@nant>

Hello Rocky,

Is that MS Access BE, which is used with ADO? - then this should work:

   conn.Execute "INSERT INTO tWeeklyUpdateSent ( DateSent ) " & _
                 "SELECT " & CLng(dtToday)


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-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Beach Access
Software
Sent: Tuesday, November 28, 2006 10:36 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: Re: [AccessD] ADO Problem

Using:

"SELECT #" & dtToday & "#"

He gets an error message: 

Invalid column name '#11'

dtToaday does contain 11/28/2006

What else could it be?

MTIA

Rocky


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of McGillivray, Don
[IT]
Sent: Tuesday, November 28, 2006 10:39 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] ADO Problem

Hi, Rocky.  

Just a WAG (I don't know ADO), but how 'bout:

?? Conn.Execute "INSERT INTO tWeeklyUpdateSent ( DateSent ) " & _
???????????????? "SELECT #" & dtToday & "#;" 

Don

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Beach Access
Software
Sent: Tuesday, November 28, 2006 10:15 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] ADO Problem

Dear List:

A colleague (who thinks I know ADO) writes in to ask why the following:

?? Conn.Execute "INSERT INTO tWeeklyUpdateSent ( DateSent ) " & _
???????????????? "SELECT " & dtToday & ""

Inserts a record into tWeeklyUpdateSent so the conection is OK.  But but the
date is 1/1/1900 instead of today's date.

I had him check the contents of dtToday and it does indeed have 11/28/2006
in it.

Does anyone see what he's doing wrong here?


MTIA

Rocky





From bchacc at san.rr.com  Tue Nov 28 18:19:44 2006
From: bchacc at san.rr.com (Beach Access Software)
Date: Tue, 28 Nov 2006 16:19:44 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] ADO Problem
In-Reply-To: <456CAD78.3567.1CF8BFAE@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>
Message-ID: <013301c7134c$1290f300$6401a8c0@HAL9005>

Single quotes did it!!! Thanks everybody for your assistance.

Best,

Rocky


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Stuart McLachlan
Sent: Tuesday, November 28, 2006 1:43 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] ADO Problem

On 28 Nov 2006 at 10:15, Beach Access Software wrote:

> Dear List:
> 
> A colleague (who thinks I know ADO) writes in to ask why the following:
> 
> ?? Conn.Execute "INSERT INTO tWeeklyUpdateSent ( DateSent ) " & _
> ???????????????? "SELECT " & dtToday & ""
> 
> Inserts a record into tWeeklyUpdateSent so the conection is OK.  But but
the
> date is 1/1/1900 instead of today?s date.

You are building  a string which looks like:
INSERT INTO tWeeklyUpdateSent ( DateSent ) SELECT 11/28/2006

What you want is:
INSERT INTO tWeeklyUpdateSent ( DateSent ) SELECT '11/28/2006'

so you need to use
 ... "SELECT '" & dtToday & "'"
(note the two single quotes)

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From bheygood at abestsystems.com  Tue Nov 28 19:20:34 2006
From: bheygood at abestsystems.com (Bob Heygood)
Date: Tue, 28 Nov 2006 17:20:34 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] Clipboard message
In-Reply-To: <AIEKKBIAKDJNAFGABNJKIEMLGOAA.bheygood@abestsystems.com>
Message-ID: <AIEKKBIAKDJNAFGABNJKIEAIGPAA.bheygood@abestsystems.com>



Hello to the list,

I am getting a message when closing a form on which I use the standard copy
record code. The message states that I have a large amount of data on the
clipboard, do I want to keep it or not.

I could care less, but my client would like not to see the message.

Is there a way to suppress???

What event to set warnings false???


TIA

best


Bob




From wdhindman at dejpolsystems.com  Tue Nov 28 19:40:27 2006
From: wdhindman at dejpolsystems.com (William Hindman)
Date: Tue, 28 Nov 2006 20:40:27 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Checking control property in an external mde database
References: <003801c712fc$bd55e4d0$6401a8c0@HAL9005>
Message-ID: <007201c71357$59c406d0$3e3de844@50NM721>

...lol ...the intent was to suggest that your method of protecting your 
product could be bypassed. :)

William Hindman
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To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'" 
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Tuesday, November 28, 2006 9:51 AM
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Checking control property in an external mde database


>I use the best first party software from A.D. Tejpal, Pty.  Who you gonna
> call?
>
> Rocky
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of William Hindman
> Sent: Monday, November 27, 2006 10:59 PM
> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] Checking control property in an external mde 
> database
>
> ...isn't it fairly easy to modify labels on mde forms using 3rd party
> software?
>
> William Hindman
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Beach Access Software" <bchacc at san.rr.com>
> To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'"
> <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, November 28, 2006 1:05 AM
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] Checking control property in an external mde 
> database
>
>
>> A.D.:
>>
>> Thanks for that function.  My Chinese distributor wants to be able to 
>> make
>> demo systems over there. I want to let them make demos only from the very
>> restricted 35 part version.  So if the 35 part limit label is visible in
>> the
>> mde, I will let the program run which creates an encrypted key with a
>> thirty
>> day limit.
>>
>> This will solve the problem.
>>
>> Thanks and regards,
>>
>> Rocky
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of A.D.TEJPAL
>> Sent: Monday, November 27, 2006 9:50 PM
>> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
>> Subject: Re: [AccessD] Checking control property in an external mde
>> database
>>
>> Rocky,
>>
>>    For accessing control's properties, the form has to be open either in
>> design or run time view. In case of mde, design view is ruled out.
>>
>>    Function Fn_IsControlVisibleInExternalDb() as given below, will get 
>> you
>> the visible status of desired control in external db. Though it involves
>> opening & closing of target form in external db, the process remains
>> invisible to the user.
>>
>>    Note - If the target form is in datasheet view, mere checking of
>> visible
>> property does not conclusively establish whether the column in question 
>> is
>> displayed or not. For that, ColumnHidden property has to be verified.
>> Interestingly, ColumnHidden property is detectable only at run time (not
>> in
>> design view).
>>
>> Best wishes,
>> A.D.Tejpal
>> ----------------
>>
>> =====================================
>> Function Fn_IsControlVisibleInExternalDb( _
>>                ByVal FilePath As String, _
>>                ByVal FormName As String, _
>>                ByVal ControlName As String) As Boolean
>>    ' Returns True if the control is visible.
>>    ' Otherwise False
>>    On Error GoTo ErrTrap
>>    Dim acp As Access.Application
>>
>>    Fn_IsControlVisibleInExternalDb = False     ' Default
>>
>>    Set acp = New Access.Application
>>    acp.OpenCurrentDatabase FilePath
>>
>>    acp.DoCmd.OpenForm FormName
>>
>>    If acp.Forms(FormName)(ControlName).Visible _
>>                                                            = True Then
>>        Fn_IsControlVisibleInExternalDb = True
>>    End If
>>    acp.DoCmd.Close acForm, FormName
>>
>> ExitPoint:
>>    On Error Resume Next
>>    acp.Quit
>>    Set acp = Nothing
>>    On Error GoTo 0
>>    Exit Function
>>
>> ErrTrap:
>>    MsgBox "Err " & Err.Number & " - " & Err.Description
>>    Resume ExitPoint
>> End Function
>> =====================================
>>
>>  ----- Original Message ----- 
>>  From: Beach Access Software
>>  To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
>>  Sent: Saturday, November 25, 2006 19:38
>>  Subject: [AccessD] Checking control property in an external mde database
>>
>>
>>  Dear List:
>>
>>  Is it possible to check the visible property of a control on a form in
>>  another database which is an mde?  Would it be necessary to have that
>> database is currently open with that form opened?
>>
>>  MTIA
>>
>>  Rocky
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From developer at ultradnt.com  Tue Nov 28 20:10:14 2006
From: developer at ultradnt.com (Steve Conklin)
Date: Tue, 28 Nov 2006 21:10:14 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Upgrading from Access 2000 to 2003
In-Reply-To: <001201c7128d$a00b1cc0$6501a8c0@office>
Message-ID: <011101c7135b$85178010$0200a8c0@ULTRADNT>

Kath:
>>>>>>>There is a new level of error checking in 2003. Any controls that do
not have tne control source in a form's source will create new error
messages (shouldn't have any of those but it found a couple!) . Error
checking levels can be adjusted thru the menu. (tools, options, error
checking).
>>>>>>>
Is this why I get, in A2k2-3, random #error in text boxes that have
"=GetDefault()" or some such function call as their source?  I have been
just moving these function calls to the code in form.current, and that has
worked around it.  Lowering, or turning off one these options in Error
Checking will prevent this?

Thanks,
Steve



-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Kath Pelletti
Sent: Monday, November 27, 2006 8:36 PM
To: Access D Normal List
Subject: [AccessD] Upgrading from Access 2000 to 2003

I've been keeping track of issues I have faced when I had to upgrade a
client's system from Access 2000 to 2003 this month. 

I thought it might be worthwhile posting my brief list in case anyone else
needs to do the same - and maybe those of you who have worked in 2003 more
than I have can add to it.....

- Start with new 2003 database, and change default file format to 2002-2003
before importing all objects, file import specs, relationships.
- Recreate Startup options and update all references
- Check all report settings for reports which do not use the default
printer. (I found that those that use a specific printer, eg. pdf995 had
reverted to default printer on import).
- Check that toolbars are displayed. Even though they are imported, I found
that I had to turn then on manually (change properties to allow them to be
turned on / turn them on / change properties back again)
- All references to the commondialog control need to be re-written (browse /
save dialogues)
- Change the [Tools] [Macro] [Security] level to Low to prevent users
getting the msg "Do you want to block unsafe expressions?"
- There is a new level of error checking in 2003. Any controls that do not
have tne control source in a form's source will create new error messages
(shouldn't have any of those but it found a couple!) . Error checking levels
can be adjusted thru the menu. (tools, options, error checking).

______________________________________
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From kp at sdsonline.net  Tue Nov 28 20:19:06 2006
From: kp at sdsonline.net (Kath Pelletti)
Date: Wed, 29 Nov 2006 13:19:06 +1100
Subject: [AccessD] Upgrading from Access 2000 to 2003
References: <011101c7135b$85178010$0200a8c0@ULTRADNT>
Message-ID: <002d01c7135c$bfa0bd90$6501a8c0@office>

Steve - if you are calling a function which it can't locate then I'd say that would be why you're getting the error messages. The setting under tools, options, error checking looks like it would allow you to turn it all off or select individually, in your case you could turn off 'invalid control properties'. 

I'm still deciding because I'm new to 2003 how much to turn off but some of them seem ridiculous, eg. 'unassociated labels'.

Kath
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Steve Conklin 
  To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' 
  Sent: Wednesday, November 29, 2006 1:10 PM
  Subject: Re: [AccessD] Upgrading from Access 2000 to 2003


  Kath:
  >>>>>>>There is a new level of error checking in 2003. Any controls that do
  not have tne control source in a form's source will create new error
  messages (shouldn't have any of those but it found a couple!) . Error
  checking levels can be adjusted thru the menu. (tools, options, error
  checking).
  >>>>>>>
  Is this why I get, in A2k2-3, random #error in text boxes that have
  "=GetDefault()" or some such function call as their source?  I have been
  just moving these function calls to the code in form.current, and that has
  worked around it.  Lowering, or turning off one these options in Error
  Checking will prevent this?

  Thanks,
  Steve



  -----Original Message-----
  From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
  [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Kath Pelletti
  Sent: Monday, November 27, 2006 8:36 PM
  To: Access D Normal List
  Subject: [AccessD] Upgrading from Access 2000 to 2003

  I've been keeping track of issues I have faced when I had to upgrade a
  client's system from Access 2000 to 2003 this month. 

  I thought it might be worthwhile posting my brief list in case anyone else
  needs to do the same - and maybe those of you who have worked in 2003 more
  than I have can add to it.....

  - Start with new 2003 database, and change default file format to 2002-2003
  before importing all objects, file import specs, relationships.
  - Recreate Startup options and update all references
  - Check all report settings for reports which do not use the default
  printer. (I found that those that use a specific printer, eg. pdf995 had
  reverted to default printer on import).
  - Check that toolbars are displayed. Even though they are imported, I found
  that I had to turn then on manually (change properties to allow them to be
  turned on / turn them on / change properties back again)
  - All references to the commondialog control need to be re-written (browse /
  save dialogues)
  - Change the [Tools] [Macro] [Security] level to Low to prevent users
  getting the msg "Do you want to block unsafe expressions?"
  - There is a new level of error checking in 2003. Any controls that do not
  have tne control source in a form's source will create new error messages
  (shouldn't have any of those but it found a couple!) . Error checking levels
  can be adjusted thru the menu. (tools, options, error checking).

  ______________________________________
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From developer at ultradnt.com  Tue Nov 28 22:49:41 2006
From: developer at ultradnt.com (Steve Conklin)
Date: Tue, 28 Nov 2006 23:49:41 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Upgrading from Access 2000 to 2003
In-Reply-To: <002d01c7135c$bfa0bd90$6501a8c0@office>
Message-ID: <012901c71371$cbb83df0$0200a8c0@ULTRADNT>

Kath - I still can't understand  why the form can't find the function, but
the vba behind the form can ... Next time this hits, I'll try turning off
'invalid control properties'.

Thanks,
Steve


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Kath Pelletti
Sent: Tuesday, November 28, 2006 9:19 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Upgrading from Access 2000 to 2003

Steve - if you are calling a function which it can't locate then I'd say
that would be why you're getting the error messages. The setting under
tools, options, error checking looks like it would allow you to turn it all
off or select individually, in your case you could turn off 'invalid control
properties'. 

I'm still deciding because I'm new to 2003 how much to turn off but some of
them seem ridiculous, eg. 'unassociated labels'.

Kath
  ----- Original Message -----
  From: Steve Conklin
  To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' 
  Sent: Wednesday, November 29, 2006 1:10 PM
  Subject: Re: [AccessD] Upgrading from Access 2000 to 2003


  Kath:
  >>>>>>>There is a new level of error checking in 2003. Any controls that
do
  not have tne control source in a form's source will create new error
  messages (shouldn't have any of those but it found a couple!) . Error
  checking levels can be adjusted thru the menu. (tools, options, error
  checking).
  >>>>>>>
  Is this why I get, in A2k2-3, random #error in text boxes that have
  "=GetDefault()" or some such function call as their source?  I have been
  just moving these function calls to the code in form.current, and that has
  worked around it.  Lowering, or turning off one these options in Error
  Checking will prevent this?

  Thanks,
  Steve



  -----Original Message-----
  From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
  [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Kath Pelletti
  Sent: Monday, November 27, 2006 8:36 PM
  To: Access D Normal List
  Subject: [AccessD] Upgrading from Access 2000 to 2003

  I've been keeping track of issues I have faced when I had to upgrade a
  client's system from Access 2000 to 2003 this month. 

  I thought it might be worthwhile posting my brief list in case anyone else
  needs to do the same - and maybe those of you who have worked in 2003 more
  than I have can add to it.....

  - Start with new 2003 database, and change default file format to
2002-2003
  before importing all objects, file import specs, relationships.
  - Recreate Startup options and update all references
  - Check all report settings for reports which do not use the default
  printer. (I found that those that use a specific printer, eg. pdf995 had
  reverted to default printer on import).
  - Check that toolbars are displayed. Even though they are imported, I
found
  that I had to turn then on manually (change properties to allow them to be
  turned on / turn them on / change properties back again)
  - All references to the commondialog control need to be re-written (browse
/
  save dialogues)
  - Change the [Tools] [Macro] [Security] level to Low to prevent users
  getting the msg "Do you want to block unsafe expressions?"
  - There is a new level of error checking in 2003. Any controls that do not
  have tne control source in a form's source will create new error messages
  (shouldn't have any of those but it found a couple!) . Error checking
levels
  can be adjusted thru the menu. (tools, options, error checking).

  ______________________________________
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From adtp at airtelbroadband.in  Tue Nov 28 23:29:04 2006
From: adtp at airtelbroadband.in (A.D.TEJPAL)
Date: Wed, 29 Nov 2006 10:59:04 +0530
Subject: [AccessD] ADO Problem
References: <008501c71319$265e68a0$6401a8c0@HAL9005>
Message-ID: <001801c71377$77172530$1b1665cb@pcadt>


Rocky,

    You might recall the thread "Date Comparison Problem" initiated by you in march-2006. It elicited the overall consensus that in order to avoid any possible pitfalls on account of various regional settings (that might differ from US date format), any date variable to be concatenated into a VBA string should first be preformatted to "mm/dd/yyyy" format.

    Accordingly, the following syntax should ideally be adopted:

    "INSERT INTO tWeeklyUpdateSent " & _
    "(DateSent) VALUES (#" & _
    Format(dtToday, "mm/dd/yyyy") & "#);"

Best wishes,
A.D.Tejpal
---------------

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Beach Access Software 
  To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' 
  Sent: Tuesday, November 28, 2006 23:45
  Subject: [AccessD] ADO Problem


  Dear List:

  A colleague (who thinks I know ADO) writes in to ask why the following:

  Conn.Execute "INSERT INTO tWeeklyUpdateSent ( DateSent ) " & _
  "SELECT " & dtToday & ""

  Inserts a record into tWeeklyUpdateSent so the conection is OK.  But but the date is 1/1/1900 instead of today's date.

  I had him check the contents of dtToday and it does indeed have 11/28/2006 in it.

  Does anyone see what he's doing wrong here?

  MTIA

  Rocky

From kp at sdsonline.net  Tue Nov 28 23:35:39 2006
From: kp at sdsonline.net (Kath Pelletti)
Date: Wed, 29 Nov 2006 16:35:39 +1100
Subject: [AccessD] Upgrading from Access 2000 to 2003
References: <012901c71371$cbb83df0$0200a8c0@ULTRADNT>
Message-ID: <004f01c71378$35021280$6501a8c0@office>

Steve - I'm not quite sure what you mean when you say the vba can but the form can't.....

You have a control with =getdefault() which throws an error but you can use the same code in the vba window to force the control to be populated and it works? That's interesting because I had a control with syntax something like this =txtjob.column(1). When I opened the form the text box would be empty but if I clicked into it then the contents would display.

I had to add code to the form's load event to set the value to get it to work. (even though it worked in A2K). 
Sounds like a bug - I don't know that adjusting the level of error checking will help that.

Kath

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Steve Conklin 
  To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' 
  Sent: Wednesday, November 29, 2006 3:49 PM
  Subject: Re: [AccessD] Upgrading from Access 2000 to 2003


  Kath - I still can't understand  why the form can't find the function, but
  the vba behind the form can ... Next time this hits, I'll try turning off
  'invalid control properties'.

  Thanks,
  Steve


  -----Original Message-----
  From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
  [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Kath Pelletti
  Sent: Tuesday, November 28, 2006 9:19 PM
  To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
  Subject: Re: [AccessD] Upgrading from Access 2000 to 2003

  Steve - if you are calling a function which it can't locate then I'd say
  that would be why you're getting the error messages. The setting under
  tools, options, error checking looks like it would allow you to turn it all
  off or select individually, in your case you could turn off 'invalid control
  properties'. 

  I'm still deciding because I'm new to 2003 how much to turn off but some of
  them seem ridiculous, eg. 'unassociated labels'.

  Kath
    ----- Original Message -----
    From: Steve Conklin
    To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' 
    Sent: Wednesday, November 29, 2006 1:10 PM
    Subject: Re: [AccessD] Upgrading from Access 2000 to 2003


    Kath:
    >>>>>>>There is a new level of error checking in 2003. Any controls that
  do
    not have tne control source in a form's source will create new error
    messages (shouldn't have any of those but it found a couple!) . Error
    checking levels can be adjusted thru the menu. (tools, options, error
    checking).
    >>>>>>>
    Is this why I get, in A2k2-3, random #error in text boxes that have
    "=GetDefault()" or some such function call as their source?  I have been
    just moving these function calls to the code in form.current, and that has
    worked around it.  Lowering, or turning off one these options in Error
    Checking will prevent this?

    Thanks,
    Steve



    -----Original Message-----
    From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
    [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Kath Pelletti
    Sent: Monday, November 27, 2006 8:36 PM
    To: Access D Normal List
    Subject: [AccessD] Upgrading from Access 2000 to 2003

    I've been keeping track of issues I have faced when I had to upgrade a
    client's system from Access 2000 to 2003 this month. 

    I thought it might be worthwhile posting my brief list in case anyone else
    needs to do the same - and maybe those of you who have worked in 2003 more
    than I have can add to it.....

    - Start with new 2003 database, and change default file format to
  2002-2003
    before importing all objects, file import specs, relationships.
    - Recreate Startup options and update all references
    - Check all report settings for reports which do not use the default
    printer. (I found that those that use a specific printer, eg. pdf995 had
    reverted to default printer on import).
    - Check that toolbars are displayed. Even though they are imported, I
  found
    that I had to turn then on manually (change properties to allow them to be
    turned on / turn them on / change properties back again)
    - All references to the commondialog control need to be re-written (browse
  /
    save dialogues)
    - Change the [Tools] [Macro] [Security] level to Low to prevent users
    getting the msg "Do you want to block unsafe expressions?"
    - There is a new level of error checking in 2003. Any controls that do not
    have tne control source in a form's source will create new error messages
    (shouldn't have any of those but it found a couple!) . Error checking
  levels
    can be adjusted thru the menu. (tools, options, error checking).

    ______________________________________
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From bchacc at san.rr.com  Wed Nov 29 00:32:28 2006
From: bchacc at san.rr.com (Beach Access Software)
Date: Tue, 28 Nov 2006 22:32:28 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] ADO Problem
In-Reply-To: <001801c71377$77172530$1b1665cb@pcadt>
Message-ID: <016801c71380$24ab82b0$6401a8c0@HAL9005>

A.D.:

It seems that the apostrophe solved the problem and that the # didn't work.
Do you think it will work in conjunction with Format?

Regards,

Rocky


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[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of A.D.TEJPAL
Sent: Tuesday, November 28, 2006 9:29 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] ADO Problem


Rocky,

    You might recall the thread "Date Comparison Problem" initiated by you
in march-2006. It elicited the overall consensus that in order to avoid any
possible pitfalls on account of various regional settings (that might differ
from US date format), any date variable to be concatenated into a VBA string
should first be preformatted to "mm/dd/yyyy" format.

    Accordingly, the following syntax should ideally be adopted:

    "INSERT INTO tWeeklyUpdateSent " & _
    "(DateSent) VALUES (#" & _
    Format(dtToday, "mm/dd/yyyy") & "#);"

Best wishes,
A.D.Tejpal
---------------

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Beach Access Software 
  To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' 
  Sent: Tuesday, November 28, 2006 23:45
  Subject: [AccessD] ADO Problem


  Dear List:

  A colleague (who thinks I know ADO) writes in to ask why the following:

  Conn.Execute "INSERT INTO tWeeklyUpdateSent ( DateSent ) " & _
  "SELECT " & dtToday & ""

  Inserts a record into tWeeklyUpdateSent so the conection is OK.  But but
the date is 1/1/1900 instead of today's date.

  I had him check the contents of dtToday and it does indeed have 11/28/2006
in it.

  Does anyone see what he's doing wrong here?

  MTIA

  Rocky
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From Gustav at cactus.dk  Wed Nov 29 02:28:34 2006
From: Gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Wed, 29 Nov 2006 09:28:34 +0100
Subject: [AccessD] ADO Problem
Message-ID: <s56d52e7.008@cactus.dk>

Hi James and Rocky

Well, this will only work in a US environment. 
As A.D states, anyone else will have to format the date value as a US formatted date/time expression or - most SQL engines accept that nowadays - an ISO formatted date/time expression with or without slashes: yyyy-mm-dd hh:nn:ss

/gustav

>>> James at fcidms.com 28-11-2006 20:55:01 >>>
Rocky:
You probably want something like:

Conn.Execute "INSERT INTO tWeeklyUpdateSent ( DateSent ) Values (#" &
dtToday & "#)" 

This will work with an ADODB connection to Access. If you are linking to SQL
Server, you should replace the # with ' (Single Quote).

Hope this helps.

James Barash



From cclenright at yahoo.com  Wed Nov 29 05:14:08 2006
From: cclenright at yahoo.com (Chris Enright)
Date: Wed, 29 Nov 2006 03:14:08 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [AccessD] Single and Double Inverted Commas!
Message-ID: <20061129111408.35698.qmail@web34304.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

  I am getting too old and have been away from programming far too long
  I never have understood the use of " and ' completely
  Could someone please correct this for me,
  Me.MonTotDBAdmin.ControlSource =
  and what I want it to equal is
  =DSum("DCAdminEventTime","qryIG_Mon") 
  but with the IG being replaced with strInitials
  My attempt with strInitials="EM" came out as =DSum('DCAdminEventTime','qryEM_Mon') and wouldn't work
   
  Thanks 
  Chris

 
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From developer at ultradnt.com  Wed Nov 29 06:00:23 2006
From: developer at ultradnt.com (Steve Conklin)
Date: Wed, 29 Nov 2006 07:00:23 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Upgrading from Access 2000 to 2003
In-Reply-To: <004f01c71378$35021280$6501a8c0@office>
Message-ID: <014001c713ad$f63fe140$0200a8c0@ULTRADNT>

Kath:
Yes, that's exactly it: >>but you can use the same code in the vba window to
force the control to be populated and it works?>>
I even also had it happen to the buttons on an Access-generated switchboard.
After moving it from 2000 to 2002, the  "=HandleButtonClick(1)" in the
property sheet caused on-click errors.  Moved those expressions to code
behind the form, and now the buttons work.  Report text boxes, too.
Anything that can be set to an expression in a property sheet - I lost a lot
of time at first with this, but now my first move is to move the expression
to code, and it works. (I've seen this on 2002 & 2003 and on machines with
Win 2000 & XP, its not just my PC.)

Steve


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Kath Pelletti
Sent: Wednesday, November 29, 2006 12:36 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Upgrading from Access 2000 to 2003

Steve - I'm not quite sure what you mean when you say the vba can but the
form can't.....

You have a control with =getdefault() which throws an error but you can use
the same code in the vba window to force the control to be populated and it
works? That's interesting because I had a control with syntax something like
this =txtjob.column(1). When I opened the form the text box would be empty
but if I clicked into it then the contents would display.

I had to add code to the form's load event to set the value to get it to
work. (even though it worked in A2K). 
Sounds like a bug - I don't know that adjusting the level of error checking
will help that.

Kath

  ----- Original Message -----
  From: Steve Conklin
  To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' 
  Sent: Wednesday, November 29, 2006 3:49 PM
  Subject: Re: [AccessD] Upgrading from Access 2000 to 2003


  Kath - I still can't understand  why the form can't find the function, but
  the vba behind the form can ... Next time this hits, I'll try turning off
  'invalid control properties'.

  Thanks,
  Steve


  -----Original Message-----
  From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
  [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Kath Pelletti
  Sent: Tuesday, November 28, 2006 9:19 PM
  To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
  Subject: Re: [AccessD] Upgrading from Access 2000 to 2003

  Steve - if you are calling a function which it can't locate then I'd say
  that would be why you're getting the error messages. The setting under
  tools, options, error checking looks like it would allow you to turn it
all
  off or select individually, in your case you could turn off 'invalid
control
  properties'. 

  I'm still deciding because I'm new to 2003 how much to turn off but some
of
  them seem ridiculous, eg. 'unassociated labels'.

  Kath
    ----- Original Message -----
    From: Steve Conklin
    To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' 
    Sent: Wednesday, November 29, 2006 1:10 PM
    Subject: Re: [AccessD] Upgrading from Access 2000 to 2003


    Kath:
    >>>>>>>There is a new level of error checking in 2003. Any controls that
  do
    not have tne control source in a form's source will create new error
    messages (shouldn't have any of those but it found a couple!) . Error
    checking levels can be adjusted thru the menu. (tools, options, error
    checking).
    >>>>>>>
    Is this why I get, in A2k2-3, random #error in text boxes that have
    "=GetDefault()" or some such function call as their source?  I have been
    just moving these function calls to the code in form.current, and that
has
    worked around it.  Lowering, or turning off one these options in Error
    Checking will prevent this?

    Thanks,
    Steve



    -----Original Message-----
    From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
    [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Kath Pelletti
    Sent: Monday, November 27, 2006 8:36 PM
    To: Access D Normal List
    Subject: [AccessD] Upgrading from Access 2000 to 2003

    I've been keeping track of issues I have faced when I had to upgrade a
    client's system from Access 2000 to 2003 this month. 

    I thought it might be worthwhile posting my brief list in case anyone
else
    needs to do the same - and maybe those of you who have worked in 2003
more
    than I have can add to it.....

    - Start with new 2003 database, and change default file format to
  2002-2003
    before importing all objects, file import specs, relationships.
    - Recreate Startup options and update all references
    - Check all report settings for reports which do not use the default
    printer. (I found that those that use a specific printer, eg. pdf995 had
    reverted to default printer on import).
    - Check that toolbars are displayed. Even though they are imported, I
  found
    that I had to turn then on manually (change properties to allow them to
be
    turned on / turn them on / change properties back again)
    - All references to the commondialog control need to be re-written
(browse
  /
    save dialogues)
    - Change the [Tools] [Macro] [Security] level to Low to prevent users
    getting the msg "Do you want to block unsafe expressions?"
    - There is a new level of error checking in 2003. Any controls that do
not
    have tne control source in a form's source will create new error
messages
    (shouldn't have any of those but it found a couple!) . Error checking
  levels
    can be adjusted thru the menu. (tools, options, error checking).

    ______________________________________
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From adtp at airtelbroadband.in  Wed Nov 29 06:22:27 2006
From: adtp at airtelbroadband.in (A.D.TEJPAL)
Date: Wed, 29 Nov 2006 17:52:27 +0530
Subject: [AccessD] ADO Problem
References: <016801c71380$24ab82b0$6401a8c0@HAL9005>
Message-ID: <006201c713b1$38378410$e70265cb@pcadt>

Rocky,

    The syntax suggested in my post was duly tested before dispatch. As pointed out by Gustav, the alternative one, involving direct concatenation, that was successfully tried by you, worked because you must have tested it on a system having regional settings conforming to US date format.

    For consistent results internationally, it would be safest to adhere to the syntax mentioned in my post.

Best wishes,
A.D.Tejpal
---------------

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Beach Access Software 
  To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' 
  Sent: Wednesday, November 29, 2006 12:02
  Subject: Re: [AccessD] ADO Problem


  A.D.:

  It seems that the apostrophe solved the problem and that the # didn't work. Do you think it will work in conjunction with Format?

  Regards,

  Rocky


  -----Original Message-----
  From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
  [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of A.D.TEJPAL
  Sent: Tuesday, November 28, 2006 9:29 PM
  To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
  Subject: Re: [AccessD] ADO Problem

  Rocky,

      You might recall the thread "Date Comparison Problem" initiated by you in march-2006. It elicited the overall consensus that in order to avoid any possible pitfalls on account of various regional settings (that might differ from US date format), any date variable to be concatenated into a VBA string should first be preformatted to "mm/dd/yyyy" format.

      Accordingly, the following syntax should ideally be adopted:

      "INSERT INTO tWeeklyUpdateSent " & _
      "(DateSent) VALUES (#" & _
      Format(dtToday, "mm/dd/yyyy") & "#);"

  Best wishes,
  A.D.Tejpal
  ---------------

    ----- Original Message ----- 
    From: Beach Access Software 
    To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' 
    Sent: Tuesday, November 28, 2006 23:45
    Subject: [AccessD] ADO Problem

    Dear List:

    A colleague (who thinks I know ADO) writes in to ask why the following:

    Conn.Execute "INSERT INTO tWeeklyUpdateSent ( DateSent ) " & _
    "SELECT " & dtToday & ""

    Inserts a record into tWeeklyUpdateSent so the conection is OK.  But but
  the date is 1/1/1900 instead of today's date.

    I had him check the contents of dtToday and it does indeed have 11/28/2006
  in it.

    Does anyone see what he's doing wrong here?

    MTIA

    Rocky

From Kwilliamson at RTKL.com  Wed Nov 29 08:13:28 2006
From: Kwilliamson at RTKL.com (Keith Williamson)
Date: Wed, 29 Nov 2006 09:13:28 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Linked Table to SQL Database
In-Reply-To: <20061128222035.313.qmail@web88211.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <B61870319AC0CC42A143BA69E5798D08028B12@fenwick.rtkl.rtkl.net>

Unfortunately, I really don't have access to the original table.  I only
get an ODBC link to it.  I might be able to get a limited "view" to a
couple of the really hefty tables, as Rusty recommended.

Thanks,

Keith E. Williamson | Assist. Controller| kwilliamson at rtkl.com

RTKL Associates Inc. | 901 South Bond Street | Baltimore, Maryland
21231-3305

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-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of
artful at rogers.com
Sent: Tuesday, November 28, 2006 5:21 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Linked Table to SQL Database

You can also employ a technique called horizontal partitioning, which
will break the large table into two or more chunks that exist as several
physical files. The advantage to this approach is that if and when you
ever need to, you can address the whole table easily. Look in BOL for
Horizontal Partitioning.

Arthur


----- Original Message ----
From: Keith Williamson <Kwilliamson at rtkl.com>
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Tuesday, November 28, 2006 4:34:10 PM
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Linked Table to SQL Database


Okay.  Thanks a lot!!

Regards,

Keith E. Williamson | Assist. Controller| kwilliamson at rtkl.com

RTKL Associates Inc. | 901 South Bond Street | Baltimore, Maryland
21231-3305

410-537-6098 direct | 410-276-2136 fax | www.rtkl.com

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of
rusty.hammond at cpiqpc.com
Sent: Tuesday, November 28, 2006 4:22 PM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Linked Table to SQL Database

Keith,

Create a view on the SQL server that limits your records, then create
the
link in Access to that view.

If you don't have the rights to the sql server to create the view, you
can
create a pass-through query in Access and limit your records via a SQL
statement in the pass-through query.  A limitation of a pass-through
query
is the data returned is read-only, which may may not work for your
needs.

HTH,

Rusty

-----Original Message-----
From: Keith Williamson [mailto:Kwilliamson at rtkl.com]
Sent: Tuesday, November 28, 2006 2:44 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: [AccessD] Linked Table to SQL Database


Hey guys,



I've got a linked table to a Sql Server database.  The table has
approximately 2,000,000 (yes..that is TWO MILLION...PLUS) records in it.
The data goes back at least 10 years.  I only need the data for, at
most, this year onward.  Is there a way to limit the link, to only pull
out data older than 01/01/06?  I am sure that Access will really chug,
trying to go through the 2,000,000 records (if a query will even be able
to handle it.)



Thanks,



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From Kwilliamson at RTKL.com  Wed Nov 29 08:17:32 2006
From: Kwilliamson at RTKL.com (Keith Williamson)
Date: Wed, 29 Nov 2006 09:17:32 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] CSV export
Message-ID: <B61870319AC0CC42A143BA69E5798D08028B19@fenwick.rtkl.rtkl.net>

Guys, I am probably showing my rustiness now.....   :-).........but how
do I do a VBA export of a report.  I have a report that I need to export
in CSV format, for uploading into another program.  I can't really just
use the query behind the report for the "TransferText" command....as the
report actually calculates some ledger codes, and summaries.  I would
hate to do an excel export, and then convert out of excel.  

 

Any help would be appreciated.

 

By the way........I am sure that I will be much more active on this side
of the lists (rather than OT), as my new job is getting me back into
some coding (at least for the short term).  I also don't have time for
OT at work (just the odd, untimely responses, from home.)

 

:-)

 

Thanks again,

 

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From garykjos at gmail.com  Wed Nov 29 09:43:15 2006
From: garykjos at gmail.com (Gary Kjos)
Date: Wed, 29 Nov 2006 09:43:15 -0600
Subject: [AccessD] CSV export
In-Reply-To: <B61870319AC0CC42A143BA69E5798D08028B19@fenwick.rtkl.rtkl.net>
References: <B61870319AC0CC42A143BA69E5798D08028B19@fenwick.rtkl.rtkl.net>
Message-ID: <aea6c4950611290743l1d54c7a5m83b494899b0246c4@mail.gmail.com>

According to the Access 97 help you would use the Output To method of
the DoCmd Object.

Something like

DoCmd.OutputTo acOutputReport, "rptKeithsReport", acFormatTXT,
"C:\WORK\KeithsReportOutput.CSV", True

I'm thinking you will be getting less than satisfactory results though
if my experience exporting reports to Excel format from Access is any
indication. I think you would do well to clone the query and introduce
the logical stuff the report does to come up with any fields that
don't exist in the orginal query. With reports exported directly to
Excel I always get lots of extraneous columns.

Good luck.

GK

Here's more info on the Output To;
-------------------------------------------------------
The OutputTo method carries out the OutputTo action in Visual Basic.
For more information on how the action and its arguments work, see the
action topic.

Syntax

DoCmd.OutputTo objecttype[, objectname][, outputformat][,
outputfile][, autostart][, templatefile]

The OutputTo method has the following arguments.

Argument	Description

objecttype	One of the following intrinsic constants:
acOutputForm
acOutputModule
acOutputQuery
acOutputReport
acOutputTable
objectname	A string expression that's the valid name of an object of
the type selected by the objecttype argument. If you want to output
the active object, specify the object's type for the objecttype
argument and leave this argument blank.
If you run Visual Basic code containing the OutputTo method in a
library database, Microsoft Access looks for the object with this name
first in the library database, then in the current database.
outputformat	One of the following intrinsic constants:
acFormatActiveXServer
acFormatHTML
acFormatIIS
acFormatRTF
acFormatTXT
acFormatXLS
If you leave this argument blank, Microsoft Access prompts you for the
output format.
outputfile	A string expression that's the full name, including the
path, of the file you want to output the object to.
If you leave this argument blank, Microsoft Access prompts you for an
output file name.
autostart	Use True (?1) to start the appropriate Microsoft
Windows?based application immediately, with the file specified by the
outputfile argument loaded. Use False (0) if you don't want to start
the application. This argument is ignored for Microsoft Internet
Information Server (.htx, .idc) files and Microsoft ActiveX Server
(*.asp) files.
If you leave this argument blank, the default (False) is assumed.
templatefile	A string expression that's the full name, including the
path, of the file you want to use as a template for an HTML, HTX, or
ASP file.
Remarks

Modules can be output only in MS-DOS Text format, so if you specify
acOutputModule for the objecttype argument, you must specify
acFormatTXT for the outputformat argument. Microsoft Internet
Information Server and Microsoft ActiveX Server formats are available
only for tables, queries, and forms, so if you specify acFormatIIS or
acFormatActiveXServer for the outputformat argument, you must specify
acOutputTable, acOutputQuery, or acOutputForm for the objecttype
argument.

You can leave an optional argument blank in the middle of the syntax,
but you must include the argument's comma. If you leave a trailing
argument blank, don't use a comma following the last argument you
specify.

-- 
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From mmmtbig at bellsouth.net  Wed Nov 29 09:45:49 2006
From: mmmtbig at bellsouth.net (Myke Myers)
Date: Wed, 29 Nov 2006 10:45:49 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Email Automation to Outlook problem
Message-ID: <00ab01c713cd$7aa95690$6701a8c0@tbig1>

I have several Access 2003 apps that use automation to send email through
Outlook (on Exchange server).

Recently at a client site the Outlook-Exchange server quit sending the
email.

It is rejecting the email address because it has apostrophes around it,
e.g.,

	'johndoe at aol.com'

Until last week it sent the email with apostrophes around it without any
hesitation.

Does anyone have any insight into what could have caused the problem and/or
solutions?

TIA,

Myke




From bchacc at san.rr.com  Wed Nov 29 09:58:41 2006
From: bchacc at san.rr.com (Beach Access Software)
Date: Wed, 29 Nov 2006 07:58:41 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] CSV export
In-Reply-To: <B61870319AC0CC42A143BA69E5798D08028B19@fenwick.rtkl.rtkl.net>
Message-ID: <004901c713cf$3de05ae0$6401a8c0@HAL9005>

Keith:

I wouldn't export the report.  I'd probably create a temp table to store the
values and export to an Excel spreadsheet.  You could actually export the
formulas this way if you wanted to.

Rocky


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Keith Williamson
Sent: Wednesday, November 29, 2006 6:18 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: [AccessD] CSV export

Guys, I am probably showing my rustiness now.....   :-).........but how
do I do a VBA export of a report.  I have a report that I need to export
in CSV format, for uploading into another program.  I can't really just
use the query behind the report for the "TransferText" command....as the
report actually calculates some ledger codes, and summaries.  I would
hate to do an excel export, and then convert out of excel.  

 

Any help would be appreciated.

 

By the way........I am sure that I will be much more active on this side
of the lists (rather than OT), as my new job is getting me back into
some coding (at least for the short term).  I also don't have time for
OT at work (just the odd, untimely responses, from home.)

 

:-)

 

Thanks again,

 

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From Gustav at cactus.dk  Wed Nov 29 10:10:54 2006
From: Gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Wed, 29 Nov 2006 17:10:54 +0100
Subject: [AccessD] Email Automation to Outlook problem
Message-ID: <s56dbf29.014@cactus.dk>

Hi Myke

The obvious solution is to adjust your code to stop wrapping the address in apostrophes. 
If, for some reason, that can't be done, change these to brackets like:

  <johndoe at aol.com>

/gustav


>>> mmmtbig at bellsouth.net 29-11-2006 16:45:49 >>>
I have several Access 2003 apps that use automation to send email through
Outlook (on Exchange server).

Recently at a client site the Outlook-Exchange server quit sending the
email.

It is rejecting the email address because it has apostrophes around it,
e.g.,

	'johndoe at aol.com'

Until last week it sent the email with apostrophes around it without any
hesitation.

Does anyone have any insight into what could have caused the problem and/or
solutions?

TIA,

Myke



From Gustav at cactus.dk  Wed Nov 29 10:19:32 2006
From: Gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Wed, 29 Nov 2006 17:19:32 +0100
Subject: [AccessD] Single and Double Inverted Commas!
Message-ID: <s56dc147.015@cactus.dk>

Hi Chris

How about a lazy solution:

  strControlSource = "=DSum('DCAdminEventTime','qryEM_Mon')"
  Me.MonTotDBAdmin.ControlSource = Replace(strControlSource,"'","""")

/gustav


>>> cclenright at yahoo.com 29-11-2006 12:14:08 >>>
  I am getting too old and have been away from programming far too long
  I never have understood the use of " and ' completely
  Could someone please correct this for me,
  Me.MonTotDBAdmin.ControlSource =
  and what I want it to equal is
  =DSum("DCAdminEventTime","qryIG_Mon") 
  but with the IG being replaced with strInitials
  My attempt with strInitials="EM" came out as =DSum('DCAdminEventTime','qryEM_Mon') and wouldn't work
   
  Thanks 
  Chris




From ssharkins at setel.com  Wed Nov 29 10:40:32 2006
From: ssharkins at setel.com (Susan Harkins)
Date: Wed, 29 Nov 2006 11:40:32 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Email Automation to Outlook problem
In-Reply-To: <s56dbf29.014@cactus.dk>
Message-ID: <000101c713d5$16e97970$8bbc2ad1@SUSANONE>

Gustav,

	This is something that Outlook seems to do on its own -- at least on
my system. An address that's worked for years will suddenly not send. In the
header, I can see the apostrophes. I delete the address, re-enter it, and 9
times out of 10, it goes. No clue... 

	In my case, there's no code involved -- this is all Outlook. 

Susan H. 

The obvious solution is to adjust your code to stop wrapping the address in
apostrophes. 
If, for some reason, that can't be done, change these to brackets like:

  <johndoe at aol.com>




From Gustav at cactus.dk  Wed Nov 29 11:09:03 2006
From: Gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Wed, 29 Nov 2006 18:09:03 +0100
Subject: [AccessD] Email Automation to Outlook problem
Message-ID: <s56dcce3.017@cactus.dk>

Hi Susan and Chris

Oh, that's another story - I don't use Outlook - so I cannot help. 
Could it be an automatic Windows Updating issue?

/gustav

>>> ssharkins at setel.com 29-11-2006 17:40:32 >>>
Gustav,

	This is something that Outlook seems to do on its own -- at least on
my system. An address that's worked for years will suddenly not send. In the
header, I can see the apostrophes. I delete the address, re-enter it, and 9
times out of 10, it goes. No clue... 

	In my case, there's no code involved -- this is all Outlook. 

Susan H. 

The obvious solution is to adjust your code to stop wrapping the address in
apostrophes. 
If, for some reason, that can't be done, change these to brackets like:

  <johndoe at aol.com>



From markamatte at hotmail.com  Wed Nov 29 14:24:22 2006
From: markamatte at hotmail.com (Mark A Matte)
Date: Wed, 29 Nov 2006 20:24:22 +0000
Subject: [AccessD] Email Automation to Outlook problem
In-Reply-To: <s56dcce3.017@cactus.dk>
Message-ID: <BAY127-F11CCC2599B0D5DB7749C4BD2E40@phx.gbl>

I am actually having a related issue right now.  I have a db that imports 
data every 30 minutes...does an analysis...and emails results using outlook. 
  It worked fine for a year...and now outlook crashes almost everytime with 
"An unknown Error".  If I execute the exact same code from a button instead 
of a timer, it runs fine...I'm lost at this time.  I need a way to send an 
email without using outlook...I guess?

Thanks,

Mark A. Matte

>From: "Gustav Brock" <Gustav at cactus.dk>
>Reply-To: Access Developers discussion and problem 
>solving<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
>To: <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
>Subject: Re: [AccessD] Email Automation to Outlook problem
>Date: Wed, 29 Nov 2006 18:09:03 +0100
>
>Hi Susan and Chris
>
>Oh, that's another story - I don't use Outlook - so I cannot help.
>Could it be an automatic Windows Updating issue?
>
>/gustav
>
> >>> ssharkins at setel.com 29-11-2006 17:40:32 >>>
>Gustav,
>
>	This is something that Outlook seems to do on its own -- at least on
>my system. An address that's worked for years will suddenly not send. In 
>the
>header, I can see the apostrophes. I delete the address, re-enter it, and 9
>times out of 10, it goes. No clue...
>
>	In my case, there's no code involved -- this is all Outlook.
>
>Susan H.
>
>The obvious solution is to adjust your code to stop wrapping the address in
>apostrophes.
>If, for some reason, that can't be done, change these to brackets like:
>
>   <johndoe at aol.com>
>
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From wdhindman at dejpolsystems.com  Wed Nov 29 15:12:25 2006
From: wdhindman at dejpolsystems.com (William Hindman)
Date: Wed, 29 Nov 2006 16:12:25 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Email Automation to Outlook problem
References: <BAY127-F11CCC2599B0D5DB7749C4BD2E40@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <005b01c713fb$121bcf80$3e3de844@50NM721>

...have you tried a restore point before it started failing ...imnsho 
Microsoft has returned to issuing updates without thoroughly vetting them 
...it seems everytime MS does an update these days, my phone starts ringing 
:(

William Hindman
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Mark A Matte" <markamatte at hotmail.com>
To: <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Wednesday, November 29, 2006 3:24 PM
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Email Automation to Outlook problem


>I am actually having a related issue right now.  I have a db that imports
> data every 30 minutes...does an analysis...and emails results using 
> outlook.
>  It worked fine for a year...and now outlook crashes almost everytime with
> "An unknown Error".  If I execute the exact same code from a button 
> instead
> of a timer, it runs fine...I'm lost at this time.  I need a way to send an
> email without using outlook...I guess?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Mark A. Matte
>
>>From: "Gustav Brock" <Gustav at cactus.dk>
>>Reply-To: Access Developers discussion and problem
>>solving<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
>>To: <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
>>Subject: Re: [AccessD] Email Automation to Outlook problem
>>Date: Wed, 29 Nov 2006 18:09:03 +0100
>>
>>Hi Susan and Chris
>>
>>Oh, that's another story - I don't use Outlook - so I cannot help.
>>Could it be an automatic Windows Updating issue?
>>
>>/gustav
>>
>> >>> ssharkins at setel.com 29-11-2006 17:40:32 >>>
>>Gustav,
>>
>> This is something that Outlook seems to do on its own -- at least on
>>my system. An address that's worked for years will suddenly not send. In
>>the
>>header, I can see the apostrophes. I delete the address, re-enter it, and 
>>9
>>times out of 10, it goes. No clue...
>>
>> In my case, there's no code involved -- this is all Outlook.
>>
>>Susan H.
>>
>>The obvious solution is to adjust your code to stop wrapping the address 
>>in
>>apostrophes.
>>If, for some reason, that can't be done, change these to brackets like:
>>
>>   <johndoe at aol.com>
>>
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From markamatte at hotmail.com  Wed Nov 29 15:22:31 2006
From: markamatte at hotmail.com (Mark A Matte)
Date: Wed, 29 Nov 2006 21:22:31 +0000
Subject: [AccessD] Email Automation to Outlook problem
In-Reply-To: <005b01c713fb$121bcf80$3e3de844@50NM721>
Message-ID: <BAY127-F40B28E3F17624F99571B91D2E40@phx.gbl>


I'll have to give this a try...but if it had any updates...they would have 
to have been automatic...its an old box running 2K Server...and I haven't 
run any updates in quite sometime.  The weird part for me...is I can run the 
code from a button...but not a timer event???

Thanks,

Mark A. Matte

>From: "William Hindman" <wdhindman at dejpolsystems.com>
>Reply-To: Access Developers discussion and problem 
>solving<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
>To: "Access Developers discussion and problem 
>solving"<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
>Subject: Re: [AccessD] Email Automation to Outlook problem
>Date: Wed, 29 Nov 2006 16:12:25 -0500
>
>...have you tried a restore point before it started failing ...imnsho
>Microsoft has returned to issuing updates without thoroughly vetting them
>...it seems everytime MS does an update these days, my phone starts ringing
>:(
>
>William Hindman
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Mark A Matte" <markamatte at hotmail.com>
>To: <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
>Sent: Wednesday, November 29, 2006 3:24 PM
>Subject: Re: [AccessD] Email Automation to Outlook problem
>
>
> >I am actually having a related issue right now.  I have a db that imports
> > data every 30 minutes...does an analysis...and emails results using
> > outlook.
> >  It worked fine for a year...and now outlook crashes almost everytime 
>with
> > "An unknown Error".  If I execute the exact same code from a button
> > instead
> > of a timer, it runs fine...I'm lost at this time.  I need a way to send 
>an
> > email without using outlook...I guess?
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Mark A. Matte
> >
> >>From: "Gustav Brock" <Gustav at cactus.dk>
> >>Reply-To: Access Developers discussion and problem
> >>solving<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
> >>To: <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
> >>Subject: Re: [AccessD] Email Automation to Outlook problem
> >>Date: Wed, 29 Nov 2006 18:09:03 +0100
> >>
> >>Hi Susan and Chris
> >>
> >>Oh, that's another story - I don't use Outlook - so I cannot help.
> >>Could it be an automatic Windows Updating issue?
> >>
> >>/gustav
> >>
> >> >>> ssharkins at setel.com 29-11-2006 17:40:32 >>>
> >>Gustav,
> >>
> >> This is something that Outlook seems to do on its own -- at least on
> >>my system. An address that's worked for years will suddenly not send. In
> >>the
> >>header, I can see the apostrophes. I delete the address, re-enter it, 
>and
> >>9
> >>times out of 10, it goes. No clue...
> >>
> >> In my case, there's no code involved -- this is all Outlook.
> >>
> >>Susan H.
> >>
> >>The obvious solution is to adjust your code to stop wrapping the address
> >>in
> >>apostrophes.
> >>If, for some reason, that can't be done, change these to brackets like:
> >>
> >>   <johndoe at aol.com>
> >>
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From mmmtbig at bellsouth.net  Wed Nov 29 15:23:11 2006
From: mmmtbig at bellsouth.net (Myke Myers)
Date: Wed, 29 Nov 2006 16:23:11 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Email Automation to Outlook problem
In-Reply-To: <BAY127-F11CCC2599B0D5DB7749C4BD2E40@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <015a01c713fc$964f3c50$6701a8c0@tbig1>

I don't seem to be able to get rid of the apostrophes around the email
address.

Per Susan H.'s recommendation, I added brackets:
	itm.To = "<" & strEmailAddr & ">"

Still shows up in Outlook with apostrophes and no brackets.

Maybe this is some spam-fighting patch in Outlook implemented by Microsoft
recently.

It is causing big trouble for my client (and me).

Myke

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Mark A Matte
Sent: Wednesday, November 29, 2006 3:24 PM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Email Automation to Outlook problem


I am actually having a related issue right now.  I have a db that imports 
data every 30 minutes...does an analysis...and emails results using outlook.

  It worked fine for a year...and now outlook crashes almost everytime with 
"An unknown Error".  If I execute the exact same code from a button instead 
of a timer, it runs fine...I'm lost at this time.  I need a way to send an 
email without using outlook...I guess?

Thanks,

Mark A. Matte

>From: "Gustav Brock" <Gustav at cactus.dk>
>Reply-To: Access Developers discussion and problem
>solving<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
>To: <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
>Subject: Re: [AccessD] Email Automation to Outlook problem
>Date: Wed, 29 Nov 2006 18:09:03 +0100
>
>Hi Susan and Chris
>
>Oh, that's another story - I don't use Outlook - so I cannot help. 
>Could it be an automatic Windows Updating issue?
>
>/gustav
>
> >>> ssharkins at setel.com 29-11-2006 17:40:32 >>>
>Gustav,
>
>	This is something that Outlook seems to do on its own -- at least on

>my system. An address that's worked for years will suddenly not send. 
>In the header, I can see the apostrophes. I delete the address, 
>re-enter it, and 9 times out of 10, it goes. No clue...
>
>	In my case, there's no code involved -- this is all Outlook.
>
>Susan H.
>
>The obvious solution is to adjust your code to stop wrapping the 
>address in apostrophes. If, for some reason, that can't be done, change 
>these to brackets like:
>
>   <johndoe at aol.com>
>
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From cclenright at yahoo.com  Wed Nov 29 15:39:36 2006
From: cclenright at yahoo.com (Chris Enright)
Date: Wed, 29 Nov 2006 13:39:36 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [AccessD] Single and Double Inverted Commas!
Message-ID: <20061129213936.71003.qmail@web34307.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

v\:* {behavior:url (#default#vml);}v\:* {	BEHAVIOR: url (#default#vml)}Hi Gustav,
 
I love lazy!
 
Problem is though that there are 42 controls that I want to change depending on the "strInitials" picked up when the name of the member of staff is selected to open the form.
What I am looking for is the correct syntax for something like
 
Me.MonTotDBAdmin.ControlSource = "=DSum('DCAdminEventTime','qry"   & strInitials &  "_Mon')"
 
Which I know is completely wrong but I have forgotten how to use those %$*^"?$   "s and 's but would create 
=DSum("DCAdminEventTime","qryEM_Mon") if strInitials="EM"

 
Chris
 
-------Original Message-------
 
From: Gustav Brock
Date: 29/11/2006 16:22:02
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Single and Double Inverted Commas!

 
Hi Chris
 
How about a lazy solution:
 
  strControlSource = "=DSum('DCAdminEventTime','qryEM_Mon')"
  Me.MonTotDBAdmin.ControlSource = Replace(strControlSource,"'","""")
 
/gustav
 
 
>>> cclenright at yahoo.com 29-11-2006 12:14:08 >>>
  I am getting too old and have been away from programming far too long
  I never have understood the use of " and ' completely
  Could someone please correct this for me,
  Me.MonTotDBAdmin.ControlSource =
  and what I want it to equal is
  =DSum("DCAdminEventTime","qryIG_Mon")
  but with the IG being replaced with strInitials
  My attempt with strInitials="EM" came out as =DSum('DCAdminEventTime','qryEM_Mon') and wouldn't work
 
  Thanks
  Chris
 
 
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From shamil at users.mns.ru  Wed Nov 29 15:46:47 2006
From: shamil at users.mns.ru (Shamil Salakhetdinov)
Date: Thu, 30 Nov 2006 00:46:47 +0300
Subject: [AccessD] OT: Where can I get good free Code39 barcode's TTF font?
Message-ID: <000901c713ff$de9603b0$6501a8c0@nant>

Hi All,

Could you please advise where to get good TTF fonts for Code 39 barcodes?
I see many choices on Internet - do you know which one is the most useful
and reliable?

Thank you.

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From markamatte at hotmail.com  Wed Nov 29 15:45:29 2006
From: markamatte at hotmail.com (Mark A Matte)
Date: Wed, 29 Nov 2006 21:45:29 +0000
Subject: [AccessD] Email Automation to Outlook problem
In-Reply-To: <015a01c713fc$964f3c50$6701a8c0@tbig1>
Message-ID: <BAY127-F20646324D988D7278B80AAD2E40@phx.gbl>

I was using (before my new issues) the Docmd.SendObject with double quotes:

DoCmd.SendObject , , acFormatHTML, "3362535270 at messaging.sprintpcs.com", 
"1111111111 at messaging.sprintpcs.com", , "Stock", Body, 0


Now it only works when I run the code manually.  Anyway...just thought I'd 
share.

Thanks,

Mark A. Matte


>From: "Myke Myers" <mmmtbig at bellsouth.net>
>Reply-To: Access Developers discussion and problem 
>solving<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
>To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem 
>solving'"<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
>Subject: Re: [AccessD] Email Automation to Outlook problem
>Date: Wed, 29 Nov 2006 16:23:11 -0500
>
>I don't seem to be able to get rid of the apostrophes around the email
>address.
>
>Per Susan H.'s recommendation, I added brackets:
>	itm.To = "<" & strEmailAddr & ">"
>
>Still shows up in Outlook with apostrophes and no brackets.
>
>Maybe this is some spam-fighting patch in Outlook implemented by Microsoft
>recently.
>
>It is causing big trouble for my client (and me).
>
>Myke
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Mark A Matte
>Sent: Wednesday, November 29, 2006 3:24 PM
>To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
>Subject: Re: [AccessD] Email Automation to Outlook problem
>
>
>I am actually having a related issue right now.  I have a db that imports
>data every 30 minutes...does an analysis...and emails results using 
>outlook.
>
>   It worked fine for a year...and now outlook crashes almost everytime 
>with
>"An unknown Error".  If I execute the exact same code from a button instead
>of a timer, it runs fine...I'm lost at this time.  I need a way to send an
>email without using outlook...I guess?
>
>Thanks,
>
>Mark A. Matte
>
> >From: "Gustav Brock" <Gustav at cactus.dk>
> >Reply-To: Access Developers discussion and problem
> >solving<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
> >To: <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
> >Subject: Re: [AccessD] Email Automation to Outlook problem
> >Date: Wed, 29 Nov 2006 18:09:03 +0100
> >
> >Hi Susan and Chris
> >
> >Oh, that's another story - I don't use Outlook - so I cannot help.
> >Could it be an automatic Windows Updating issue?
> >
> >/gustav
> >
> > >>> ssharkins at setel.com 29-11-2006 17:40:32 >>>
> >Gustav,
> >
> >	This is something that Outlook seems to do on its own -- at least on
>
> >my system. An address that's worked for years will suddenly not send.
> >In the header, I can see the apostrophes. I delete the address,
> >re-enter it, and 9 times out of 10, it goes. No clue...
> >
> >	In my case, there's no code involved -- this is all Outlook.
> >
> >Susan H.
> >
> >The obvious solution is to adjust your code to stop wrapping the
> >address in apostrophes. If, for some reason, that can't be done, change
> >these to brackets like:
> >
> >   <johndoe at aol.com>
> >
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From dw-murphy at cox.net  Wed Nov 29 15:52:54 2006
From: dw-murphy at cox.net (Doug Murphy)
Date: Wed, 29 Nov 2006 13:52:54 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] Email Automation to Outlook problem
In-Reply-To: <BAY127-F40B28E3F17624F99571B91D2E40@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <008401c71400$b96b21f0$0200a8c0@murphy3234aaf1>

It may be a windows event conflict.  I am not sure if the timer is an Access
thing or Access running a windows api.  I do know that if Outlook happens to
be sending or receiving when I try and send an email from Access an error is
generated.  This may be way out in left field but something to consider.

Doug 

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Mark A Matte
Sent: Wednesday, November 29, 2006 1:23 PM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Email Automation to Outlook problem


I'll have to give this a try...but if it had any updates...they would have
to have been automatic...its an old box running 2K Server...and I haven't
run any updates in quite sometime.  The weird part for me...is I can run the
code from a button...but not a timer event???

Thanks,

Mark A. Matte

>From: "William Hindman" <wdhindman at dejpolsystems.com>
>Reply-To: Access Developers discussion and problem 
>solving<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
>To: "Access Developers discussion and problem 
>solving"<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
>Subject: Re: [AccessD] Email Automation to Outlook problem
>Date: Wed, 29 Nov 2006 16:12:25 -0500
>
>...have you tried a restore point before it started failing ...imnsho 
>Microsoft has returned to issuing updates without thoroughly vetting 
>them ...it seems everytime MS does an update these days, my phone 
>starts ringing :(
>
>William Hindman
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Mark A Matte" <markamatte at hotmail.com>
>To: <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
>Sent: Wednesday, November 29, 2006 3:24 PM
>Subject: Re: [AccessD] Email Automation to Outlook problem
>
>
> >I am actually having a related issue right now.  I have a db that 
> >imports  data every 30 minutes...does an analysis...and emails 
> >results using  outlook.
> >  It worked fine for a year...and now outlook crashes almost 
> >everytime
>with
> > "An unknown Error".  If I execute the exact same code from a button 
> > instead of a timer, it runs fine...I'm lost at this time.  I need a 
> > way to send
>an
> > email without using outlook...I guess?
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Mark A. Matte
> >
> >>From: "Gustav Brock" <Gustav at cactus.dk>
> >>Reply-To: Access Developers discussion and problem 
> >>solving<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
> >>To: <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
> >>Subject: Re: [AccessD] Email Automation to Outlook problem
> >>Date: Wed, 29 Nov 2006 18:09:03 +0100
> >>
> >>Hi Susan and Chris
> >>
> >>Oh, that's another story - I don't use Outlook - so I cannot help.
> >>Could it be an automatic Windows Updating issue?
> >>
> >>/gustav
> >>
> >> >>> ssharkins at setel.com 29-11-2006 17:40:32 >>>
> >>Gustav,
> >>
> >> This is something that Outlook seems to do on its own -- at least 
> >>on my system. An address that's worked for years will suddenly not 
> >>send. In the header, I can see the apostrophes. I delete the 
> >>address, re-enter it,
>and
> >>9
> >>times out of 10, it goes. No clue...
> >>
> >> In my case, there's no code involved -- this is all Outlook.
> >>
> >>Susan H.
> >>
> >>The obvious solution is to adjust your code to stop wrapping the 
> >>address in apostrophes.
> >>If, for some reason, that can't be done, change these to brackets like:
> >>
> >>   <johndoe at aol.com>
> >>
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From dmcafee at pacbell.net  Wed Nov 29 16:03:13 2006
From: dmcafee at pacbell.net (David Mcafee)
Date: Wed, 29 Nov 2006 14:03:13 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [AccessD] OT: Where can I get good free Code39 barcode's TTF
	font?
Message-ID: <20061129220313.42453.qmail@web80812.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

I've used this one for a while now.

http://www.squaregear.net/fonts/

David

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To: Access-D <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Wednesday, November 29, 2006 1:46:47 PM
Subject: [AccessD] OT: Where can I get good free Code39 barcode's TTF font?

Hi All,

Could you please advise where to get good TTF fonts for Code 39 barcodes?
I see many choices on Internet - do you know which one is the most useful
and reliable?

Thank you.

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From markamatte at hotmail.com  Wed Nov 29 16:11:06 2006
From: markamatte at hotmail.com (Mark A Matte)
Date: Wed, 29 Nov 2006 22:11:06 +0000
Subject: [AccessD] Email Automation to Outlook problem
In-Reply-To: <008401c71400$b96b21f0$0200a8c0@murphy3234aaf1>
Message-ID: <BAY127-F2356897ACE30E1D05A52C4D2E40@phx.gbl>

Also...like I said...no updates that I know of...but this ran fine for over 
a year.

Thanks,

Mark


>From: "Doug Murphy" <dw-murphy at cox.net>
>Reply-To: Access Developers discussion and problem 
>solving<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
>To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem 
>solving'"<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
>Subject: Re: [AccessD] Email Automation to Outlook problem
>Date: Wed, 29 Nov 2006 13:52:54 -0800
>
>It may be a windows event conflict.  I am not sure if the timer is an 
>Access
>thing or Access running a windows api.  I do know that if Outlook happens 
>to
>be sending or receiving when I try and send an email from Access an error 
>is
>generated.  This may be way out in left field but something to consider.
>
>Doug
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Mark A Matte
>Sent: Wednesday, November 29, 2006 1:23 PM
>To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
>Subject: Re: [AccessD] Email Automation to Outlook problem
>
>
>I'll have to give this a try...but if it had any updates...they would have
>to have been automatic...its an old box running 2K Server...and I haven't
>run any updates in quite sometime.  The weird part for me...is I can run 
>the
>code from a button...but not a timer event???
>
>Thanks,
>
>Mark A. Matte
>
> >From: "William Hindman" <wdhindman at dejpolsystems.com>
> >Reply-To: Access Developers discussion and problem
> >solving<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
> >To: "Access Developers discussion and problem
> >solving"<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
> >Subject: Re: [AccessD] Email Automation to Outlook problem
> >Date: Wed, 29 Nov 2006 16:12:25 -0500
> >
> >...have you tried a restore point before it started failing ...imnsho
> >Microsoft has returned to issuing updates without thoroughly vetting
> >them ...it seems everytime MS does an update these days, my phone
> >starts ringing :(
> >
> >William Hindman
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: "Mark A Matte" <markamatte at hotmail.com>
> >To: <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
> >Sent: Wednesday, November 29, 2006 3:24 PM
> >Subject: Re: [AccessD] Email Automation to Outlook problem
> >
> >
> > >I am actually having a related issue right now.  I have a db that
> > >imports  data every 30 minutes...does an analysis...and emails
> > >results using  outlook.
> > >  It worked fine for a year...and now outlook crashes almost
> > >everytime
> >with
> > > "An unknown Error".  If I execute the exact same code from a button
> > > instead of a timer, it runs fine...I'm lost at this time.  I need a
> > > way to send
> >an
> > > email without using outlook...I guess?
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > >
> > > Mark A. Matte
> > >
> > >>From: "Gustav Brock" <Gustav at cactus.dk>
> > >>Reply-To: Access Developers discussion and problem
> > >>solving<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
> > >>To: <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
> > >>Subject: Re: [AccessD] Email Automation to Outlook problem
> > >>Date: Wed, 29 Nov 2006 18:09:03 +0100
> > >>
> > >>Hi Susan and Chris
> > >>
> > >>Oh, that's another story - I don't use Outlook - so I cannot help.
> > >>Could it be an automatic Windows Updating issue?
> > >>
> > >>/gustav
> > >>
> > >> >>> ssharkins at setel.com 29-11-2006 17:40:32 >>>
> > >>Gustav,
> > >>
> > >> This is something that Outlook seems to do on its own -- at least
> > >>on my system. An address that's worked for years will suddenly not
> > >>send. In the header, I can see the apostrophes. I delete the
> > >>address, re-enter it,
> >and
> > >>9
> > >>times out of 10, it goes. No clue...
> > >>
> > >> In my case, there's no code involved -- this is all Outlook.
> > >>
> > >>Susan H.
> > >>
> > >>The obvious solution is to adjust your code to stop wrapping the
> > >>address in apostrophes.
> > >>If, for some reason, that can't be done, change these to brackets 
>like:
> > >>
> > >>   <johndoe at aol.com>
> > >>
> > >>--
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From Lambert.Heenan at AIG.com  Wed Nov 29 16:15:04 2006
From: Lambert.Heenan at AIG.com (Heenan, Lambert)
Date: Wed, 29 Nov 2006 16:15:04 -0600
Subject: [AccessD] Email Automation to Outlook problem
Message-ID: <34C8A2AB1EF3564CB0D64DB6AFFDD5C29DA7A2@xlivmbx35.aig.com>

Hmm.

I notice you are directly assigning the email address to the Item.To field.
No idea why this might suddenly stop working, but as it happens this is
*not* how I address emails. 

Instead I create an Outlook Mail Item...

    Set objOutlookMsg = objOutlook.CreateItem(olMailItem)

...and then add an email address to the collection...

    With objOutlookMsg
         ' Add the To recipient(s) to the message.
          .Recipients.Add("Foo at bar.com") ' add an email address to the
collection

... and define the recipient type ...

          .Recipients.Type = olTo

... and lastly the address is verified using the Resolve method - this will
verify Exchange Server addresses.

        ' Resolve each Recipient's name.
        For Each objOutlookRecip In .Recipients
            If Not objOutlookRecip.Resolve = True Then
                MsgBox "Address " & objOutlookRecip.Name & " does not exist"
                objOutlookRecip.Delete
            End If
        Next
       ...
  End With

I have similar code that takes a delimited list of addresses and adds them
one by one to the Recipients collection.

This "works for me", and has done for years. Currently I'm using it with
Outlook XP (2002).

HTH

Lambert

-----Original Message-----


From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Myke Myers
Sent: Wednesday, November 29, 2006 4:23 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Email Automation to Outlook problem


I don't seem to be able to get rid of the apostrophes around the email
address.

Per Susan H.'s recommendation, I added brackets:
	itm.To = "<" & strEmailAddr & ">"

Still shows up in Outlook with apostrophes and no brackets.

Maybe this is some spam-fighting patch in Outlook implemented by Microsoft
recently.

It is causing big trouble for my client (and me).

Myke

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Mark A Matte
Sent: Wednesday, November 29, 2006 3:24 PM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Email Automation to Outlook problem


I am actually having a related issue right now.  I have a db that imports 
data every 30 minutes...does an analysis...and emails results using outlook.

  It worked fine for a year...and now outlook crashes almost everytime with 
"An unknown Error".  If I execute the exact same code from a button instead 
of a timer, it runs fine...I'm lost at this time.  I need a way to send an 
email without using outlook...I guess?

Thanks,

Mark A. Matte

>From: "Gustav Brock" <Gustav at cactus.dk>
>Reply-To: Access Developers discussion and problem 
>solving<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
>To: <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
>Subject: Re: [AccessD] Email Automation to Outlook problem
>Date: Wed, 29 Nov 2006 18:09:03 +0100
>
>Hi Susan and Chris
>
>Oh, that's another story - I don't use Outlook - so I cannot help.
>Could it be an automatic Windows Updating issue?
>
>/gustav
>
> >>> ssharkins at setel.com 29-11-2006 17:40:32 >>>
>Gustav,
>
>	This is something that Outlook seems to do on its own -- at least on

>my system. An address that's worked for years will suddenly not send.
>In the header, I can see the apostrophes. I delete the address, 
>re-enter it, and 9 times out of 10, it goes. No clue...
>
>	In my case, there's no code involved -- this is all Outlook.
>
>Susan H.
>
>The obvious solution is to adjust your code to stop wrapping the
>address in apostrophes. If, for some reason, that can't be done, change 
>these to brackets like:
>
>   <johndoe at aol.com>
>
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From darrend at nimble.com.au  Wed Nov 29 16:17:18 2006
From: darrend at nimble.com.au (Darren DICK)
Date: Thu, 30 Nov 2006 09:17:18 +1100
Subject: [AccessD] Single and Double Inverted Commas!
In-Reply-To: <20061129111408.35698.qmail@web34304.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <000601c71404$2d985090$631aa53a@DENZILLAP>

Hi Chris

Demo sent off list

I am not too sure the dot controlsource property can be set at runtime (IE
Changed via code with the form 'running') - I am sure someone on the list will
correct me if I have it wrong

See ya
 
Darren
------------------
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-----Original Message-----
From: Chris Enright [mailto:cclenright at yahoo.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, 29 November 2006 10:14 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] Single and Double Inverted Commas!

  I am getting too old and have been away from programming far too long
  I never have understood the use of " and ' completely
  Could someone please correct this for me,
  Me.MonTotDBAdmin.ControlSource =
  and what I want it to equal is
  =DSum("DCAdminEventTime","qryIG_Mon") 
  but with the IG being replaced with strInitials
  My attempt with strInitials="EM" came out as
=DSum('DCAdminEventTime','qryEM_Mon') and wouldn't work
   
  Thanks 
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From cclenright at yahoo.com  Wed Nov 29 16:30:13 2006
From: cclenright at yahoo.com (Chris Enright)
Date: Wed, 29 Nov 2006 14:30:13 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [AccessD] Single and Double Inverted Commas!
Message-ID: <504913.67568.qm@web34311.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

v\:* {behavior:url (#default#vml);}v\:* {	BEHAVIOR: url (#default#vml)}Ah! Thanks Darren, that explains why some simpler attempts are causing problems.
Does that mean I can change them in the Form B from Form A before opening Form B?
 
Chris
 
-------Original Message-------
 
From: Darren DICK
Date: 29/11/2006 22:19:25
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Single and Double Inverted Commas!

 
Hi Chris
 
Demo sent off list
 
I am not too sure the dot controlsource property can be set at runtime (IE
Changed via code with the form 'running') - I am sure someone on the list will
correct me if I have it wrong
 
See ya
 
Darren
------------------
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-----Original Message-----
From: Chris Enright [mailto:cclenright at yahoo.com]
Sent: Wednesday, 29 November 2006 10:14 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] Single and Double Inverted Commas!
 
  I am getting too old and have been away from programming far too long
  I never have understood the use of " and ' completely
  Could someone please correct this for me,
  Me.MonTotDBAdmin.ControlSource =
  and what I want it to equal is
  =DSum("DCAdminEventTime","qryIG_Mon")
  but with the IG being replaced with strInitials
  My attempt with strInitials="EM" came out as
=DSum('DCAdminEventTime','qryEM_Mon') and wouldn't work
 
  Thanks
  Chris
 
 
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From cclenright at yahoo.com  Wed Nov 29 16:36:49 2006
From: cclenright at yahoo.com (Chris Enright)
Date: Wed, 29 Nov 2006 14:36:49 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [AccessD] Single and Double Inverted Commas!
Message-ID: <882726.1924.qm@web34314.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

v\:* {behavior:url (#default#vml);}v\:* {	BEHAVIOR: url (#default#vml)}Hi Darren,
 
Thanks for sending me the demo. Sadly I am still using Access 2K and can't run it. 
 
Chris
-------Original Message-------
 
From: Darren DICK
Date: 29/11/2006 22:19:25
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Single and Double Inverted Commas!

 
Hi Chris
 
Demo sent off list
 
I am not too sure the dot controlsource property can be set at runtime (IE
Changed via code with the form 'running') - I am sure someone on the list will
correct me if I have it wrong
 
See ya
 
Darren
------------------
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-----Original Message-----
From: Chris Enright [mailto:cclenright at yahoo.com]
Sent: Wednesday, 29 November 2006 10:14 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] Single and Double Inverted Commas!
 
  I am getting too old and have been away from programming far too long
  I never have understood the use of " and ' completely
  Could someone please correct this for me,
  Me.MonTotDBAdmin.ControlSource =
  and what I want it to equal is
  =DSum("DCAdminEventTime","qryIG_Mon")
  but with the IG being replaced with strInitials
  My attempt with strInitials="EM" came out as
=DSum('DCAdminEventTime','qryEM_Mon') and wouldn't work
 
  Thanks
  Chris
 
 
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From artful at rogers.com  Wed Nov 29 18:09:50 2006
From: artful at rogers.com (artful at rogers.com)
Date: Wed, 29 Nov 2006 16:09:50 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [AccessD] Email Automation to Outlook problem
Message-ID: <20061130000950.63940.qmail@web88208.mail.re2.yahoo.com>

LOL. I didn't realize that anyone still did use Outlook. Ok, I stand corrected.


----- Original Message ----
From: Gustav Brock <Gustav at cactus.dk>
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Sent: Wednesday, November 29, 2006 12:09:03 PM
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Email Automation to Outlook problem


Hi Susan and Chris

Oh, that's another story - I don't use Outlook - so I cannot help. 
Could it be an automatic Windows Updating issue?

/gustav

From darrend at nimble.com.au  Thu Nov 30 00:30:38 2006
From: darrend at nimble.com.au (Darren DICK)
Date: Thu, 30 Nov 2006 17:30:38 +1100
Subject: [AccessD] Single and Double Inverted Commas!
In-Reply-To: <882726.1924.qm@web34314.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <001601c71449$277ba050$5e04a53a@DENZILLAP>

Howdy

New demo sent

However in relation to changing controlsources from other forms or via code

As far as I know ControlSources (for controls) can't be set other than in design
mode - again the list will let me know if I have it wrong though 

Darren


-----Original Message-----
From: Chris Enright [mailto:cclenright at yahoo.com] 
Sent: Thursday, 30 November 2006 9:37 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Single and Double Inverted Commas!

v\:* {behavior:url (#default#vml);}v\:* {	BEHAVIOR: url (#default#vml)}Hi
Darren,
 
Thanks for sending me the demo. Sadly I am still using Access 2K and can't run
it. 
 
Chris
-------Original Message-------
 
From: Darren DICK
Date: 29/11/2006 22:19:25
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Single and Double Inverted Commas!

 
Hi Chris
 
Demo sent off list
 
I am not too sure the dot controlsource property can be set at runtime (IE
Changed via code with the form 'running') - I am sure someone on the list will
correct me if I have it wrong
 
See ya
 
Darren
------------------
T: 0424 696 433
 
-----Original Message-----
From: Chris Enright [mailto:cclenright at yahoo.com]
Sent: Wednesday, 29 November 2006 10:14 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] Single and Double Inverted Commas!
 
  I am getting too old and have been away from programming far too long
  I never have understood the use of " and ' completely
  Could someone please correct this for me,
  Me.MonTotDBAdmin.ControlSource =
  and what I want it to equal is
  =DSum("DCAdminEventTime","qryIG_Mon")
  but with the IG being replaced with strInitials
  My attempt with strInitials="EM" came out as
=DSum('DCAdminEventTime','qryEM_Mon') and wouldn't work
 
  Thanks
  Chris
 
 
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From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com  Thu Nov 30 05:44:45 2006
From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (JWColby)
Date: Thu, 30 Nov 2006 06:44:45 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Where to place a filter
Message-ID: <004301c71474$efa70210$e1265b05@m6805>

I found an interesting anomaly today.  I was troubleshooting why a query was
two orders of magnitude slower in a query in a new version of a database vs.
the same query in an older version of the database.  To make a long story
short:
 
Two tables, Agency / child
 
Agency has a PKID
Child has a FK for the agency PKID
Child joined to agency on this PK/FK
 
Filter on the FK in child yields a query 3 minutes long
Move the filter to the Agency PKID the time drops to 3 seconds!!!
 
I have to assume that the difference lies in the fact that the PK is a
unique index vs. a non-unique index for a FK.
 
I have to say that I had never thought about this specific subject and just
treated an index as an index, but in the future I will examine carefully
applying a filter on an FK as opposed to joining to the required table and
filtering on the PK.
 
Any thoughts on the subject?
 
John W. Colby
Colby Consulting
www.ColbyConsulting.com
 


From Gustav at cactus.dk  Thu Nov 30 06:15:16 2006
From: Gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Thu, 30 Nov 2006 13:15:16 +0100
Subject: [AccessD] Single and Double Inverted Commas!
Message-ID: <s56ed983.028@cactus.dk>

Hi Chris

Well, still lazy, so why not:

  Me.MonTotDBAdmin.ControlSource = Replace("=DSum('DCAdminEventTime','qry" & strInitials & "_Mon')","'","""")

/gustav


>>> cclenright at yahoo.com 29-11-2006 22:39:36 >>>
v\:* {behavior:url (#default#vml);}v\:* {	BEHAVIOR: url (#default#vml)}Hi Gustav,
 
I love lazy!
 
Problem is though that there are 42 controls that I want to change depending on the "strInitials" picked up when the name of the member of staff is selected to open the form.
What I am looking for is the correct syntax for something like
 
Me.MonTotDBAdmin.ControlSource = "=DSum('DCAdminEventTime','qry"   & strInitials &  "_Mon')"
 
Which I know is completely wrong but I have forgotten how to use those %$*^"?$   "s and 's but would create 
=DSum("DCAdminEventTime","qryEM_Mon") if strInitials="EM"

 
Chris
 
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From: Gustav Brock
Date: 29/11/2006 16:22:02
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com 
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Single and Double Inverted Commas!

 
Hi Chris
 
How about a lazy solution:
 
  strControlSource = "=DSum('DCAdminEventTime','qryEM_Mon')"
  Me.MonTotDBAdmin.ControlSource = Replace(strControlSource,"'","""")
 
/gustav
 
 
>>> cclenright at yahoo.com 29-11-2006 12:14:08 >>>
  I am getting too old and have been away from programming far too long
  I never have understood the use of " and ' completely
  Could someone please correct this for me,
  Me.MonTotDBAdmin.ControlSource =
  and what I want it to equal is
  =DSum("DCAdminEventTime","qryIG_Mon")
  but with the IG being replaced with strInitials
  My attempt with strInitials="EM" came out as =DSum('DCAdminEventTime','qryEM_Mon') and wouldn't work
 
  Thanks
  Chris



From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com  Thu Nov 30 06:50:57 2006
From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (JWColby)
Date: Thu, 30 Nov 2006 07:50:57 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Where to place a filter
In-Reply-To: <004301c71474$efa70210$e1265b05@m6805>
Message-ID: <004d01c7147e$2ede8bc0$e1265b05@m6805>

There is more to the story, which leaves me completely confused.  

In the process of fixing the problem, I had dropped the AgencyID FK from the
tblChild table and pulled in the AgencyID PK from tblAgency, and then
applied the filter to the AgencyID PK.  To do further testing I then pulled
in the FK from the tblChild table again and moved the filter back to that FK
field and the speed was still 3 seconds!

To summarize, I had an extremely slow query.  I discovered that if I simply
pulled the PK from the tblAgency and applied the filter to that (dropping
the FK AgencyID from the tblChild out of the query in the process) the query
went from 3 minutes down to 3 seconds.  However when I pulled the AgencyID
FK back out of the tblChild and reapplied the filter to the FK, the query
time remained at 3 seconds.

Hmmmm.....

It certainly sounds like something about the query was saved in the
background, and whatever that something was it was corrupted or something.
Changing the query by pulling the PK and applying the filter to that,
dropping the FK in the process, perhaps caused something in the background
to be corrected.

I dunno.  I have never seen anything like this before.  

Sadly it means I cannot necessarily look for speedups in my existing
database by moving a filter from an FK to the corresponding PK.


John W. Colby
Colby Consulting
www.ColbyConsulting.com

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[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of JWColby
Sent: Thursday, November 30, 2006 6:45 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] Where to place a filter

I found an interesting anomaly today.  I was troubleshooting why a query was
two orders of magnitude slower in a query in a new version of a database vs.
the same query in an older version of the database.  To make a long story
short:
 
Two tables, Agency / child
 
Agency has a PKID
Child has a FK for the agency PKID
Child joined to agency on this PK/FK
 
Filter on the FK in child yields a query 3 minutes long Move the filter to
the Agency PKID the time drops to 3 seconds!!!
 
I have to assume that the difference lies in the fact that the PK is a
unique index vs. a non-unique index for a FK.
 
I have to say that I had never thought about this specific subject and just
treated an index as an index, but in the future I will examine carefully
applying a filter on an FK as opposed to joining to the required table and
filtering on the PK.
 
Any thoughts on the subject?
 
John W. Colby
Colby Consulting
www.ColbyConsulting.com
 
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From Kwilliamson at RTKL.com  Thu Nov 30 08:18:58 2006
From: Kwilliamson at RTKL.com (Keith Williamson)
Date: Thu, 30 Nov 2006 09:18:58 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] CSV export
In-Reply-To: <004901c713cf$3de05ae0$6401a8c0@HAL9005>
Message-ID: <B61870319AC0CC42A143BA69E5798D08033F42@fenwick.rtkl.rtkl.net>

Thanks, Rocky.

Regards,

Keith E. Williamson | Assist. Controller| kwilliamson at rtkl.com

RTKL Associates Inc. | 901 South Bond Street | Baltimore, Maryland
21231-3305

410-537-6098 direct | 410-276-2136 fax | www.rtkl.com


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Beach Access
Software
Sent: Wednesday, November 29, 2006 10:59 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: Re: [AccessD] CSV export

Keith:

I wouldn't export the report.  I'd probably create a temp table to store
the
values and export to an Excel spreadsheet.  You could actually export
the
formulas this way if you wanted to.

Rocky


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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Keith
Williamson
Sent: Wednesday, November 29, 2006 6:18 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: [AccessD] CSV export

Guys, I am probably showing my rustiness now.....   :-).........but how
do I do a VBA export of a report.  I have a report that I need to export
in CSV format, for uploading into another program.  I can't really just
use the query behind the report for the "TransferText" command....as the
report actually calculates some ledger codes, and summaries.  I would
hate to do an excel export, and then convert out of excel.  

 

Any help would be appreciated.

 

By the way........I am sure that I will be much more active on this side
of the lists (rather than OT), as my new job is getting me back into
some coding (at least for the short term).  I also don't have time for
OT at work (just the odd, untimely responses, from home.)

 

:-)

 

Thanks again,

 

Keith E. Williamson | Assist. Controller| kwilliamson at rtkl.com

RTKL Associates Inc. | 901 South Bond Street | Baltimore, Maryland
21231-3305

410-537-6098 direct | 410-276-2136 fax | www.rtkl.com
<http://www.rtkl.com/> 

 

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From bchacc at san.rr.com  Thu Nov 30 08:55:00 2006
From: bchacc at san.rr.com (Beach Access Software)
Date: Thu, 30 Nov 2006 06:55:00 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] CSV export
In-Reply-To: <B61870319AC0CC42A143BA69E5798D08033F42@fenwick.rtkl.rtkl.net>
Message-ID: <001b01c7148f$82bb2490$6401a8c0@HAL9005>

Keith:

I've got a bunch of automation code exporting stuff to Excel if you want a
sample. It's not elegant but it works.

I've also got code where I had to do a bunch of formatting and other things
in a spreadsheet I was creating from Access.  I used the macro recorder in
Excel and just copied out the code it generated into my module.  I can send
you some snips of that as well if you need to make a full on spreadsheet
instead of just a CSV file that will open in Excel.

Best,

Rocky


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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Keith Williamson
Sent: Thursday, November 30, 2006 6:19 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] CSV export

Thanks, Rocky.

Regards,

Keith E. Williamson | Assist. Controller| kwilliamson at rtkl.com

RTKL Associates Inc. | 901 South Bond Street | Baltimore, Maryland
21231-3305

410-537-6098 direct | 410-276-2136 fax | www.rtkl.com


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Beach Access
Software
Sent: Wednesday, November 29, 2006 10:59 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: Re: [AccessD] CSV export

Keith:

I wouldn't export the report.  I'd probably create a temp table to store
the
values and export to an Excel spreadsheet.  You could actually export
the
formulas this way if you wanted to.

Rocky


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Keith
Williamson
Sent: Wednesday, November 29, 2006 6:18 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: [AccessD] CSV export

Guys, I am probably showing my rustiness now.....   :-).........but how
do I do a VBA export of a report.  I have a report that I need to export
in CSV format, for uploading into another program.  I can't really just
use the query behind the report for the "TransferText" command....as the
report actually calculates some ledger codes, and summaries.  I would
hate to do an excel export, and then convert out of excel.  

 

Any help would be appreciated.

 

By the way........I am sure that I will be much more active on this side
of the lists (rather than OT), as my new job is getting me back into
some coding (at least for the short term).  I also don't have time for
OT at work (just the odd, untimely responses, from home.)

 

:-)

 

Thanks again,

 

Keith E. Williamson | Assist. Controller| kwilliamson at rtkl.com

RTKL Associates Inc. | 901 South Bond Street | Baltimore, Maryland
21231-3305

410-537-6098 direct | 410-276-2136 fax | www.rtkl.com
<http://www.rtkl.com/> 

 

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From Kwilliamson at RTKL.com  Thu Nov 30 09:08:07 2006
From: Kwilliamson at RTKL.com (Keith Williamson)
Date: Thu, 30 Nov 2006 10:08:07 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Still on the Reporting
Message-ID: <B61870319AC0CC42A143BA69E5798D08033FBA@fenwick.rtkl.rtkl.net>

Man...I forgot what a pain in the A@& getting reports out of Access is.

 

I asked earlier how to export a report into csv format....doesn't seem
that is likely.  I need to ultimately generate a csv format file, to
import into our sql-based application.  This is for journal entries.  I
have written a couple of reports to generate journal
entries....utilizing the different levels of grouping and summing.  A
good bit of the report is taking data, at different groupings, and
calculating percentages to apply to user-entered data (for allocating
overhead to different entities and account numbers.)  Since csv is out,
I am resigned to bring the data into excel...and then export to csv
format.

 

The problem is that, oddly, when I am looking at the data on the report
(on screen) and then hit the "Analyze It with Excel" button....the
columns come over in different order than the report.  Plus, one of the
fields is a text field = "00".  It keeps coming into Excel as = 0
(general format.)  I can't think of a way to store the values, and
export values and formulas to Excel...as Rocky suggested.  

 

Any help is greatly appreciated.

 

Regards,

 

Keith E. Williamson | Assist. Controller| kwilliamson at rtkl.com

RTKL Associates Inc. | 901 South Bond Street | Baltimore, Maryland
21231-3305

410-537-6098 direct | 410-276-2136 fax | www.rtkl.com
<http://www.rtkl.com/> 

 



From bchacc at san.rr.com  Thu Nov 30 09:20:56 2006
From: bchacc at san.rr.com (Beach Access Software)
Date: Thu, 30 Nov 2006 07:20:56 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] Still on the Reporting
In-Reply-To: <B61870319AC0CC42A143BA69E5798D08033FBA@fenwick.rtkl.rtkl.net>
Message-ID: <002c01c71493$2240f960$6401a8c0@HAL9005>

Keith:

I've also got a module that exports to a comma delimited, CSV file with
quotes around the text fields.  Can send that off-line if it would help.

Why is CSV out of the running now?

Rocky


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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Keith Williamson
Sent: Thursday, November 30, 2006 7:08 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: [AccessD] Still on the Reporting

Man...I forgot what a pain in the A@& getting reports out of Access is.

 

I asked earlier how to export a report into csv format....doesn't seem
that is likely.  I need to ultimately generate a csv format file, to
import into our sql-based application.  This is for journal entries.  I
have written a couple of reports to generate journal
entries....utilizing the different levels of grouping and summing.  A
good bit of the report is taking data, at different groupings, and
calculating percentages to apply to user-entered data (for allocating
overhead to different entities and account numbers.)  Since csv is out,
I am resigned to bring the data into excel...and then export to csv
format.

 

The problem is that, oddly, when I am looking at the data on the report
(on screen) and then hit the "Analyze It with Excel" button....the
columns come over in different order than the report.  Plus, one of the
fields is a text field = "00".  It keeps coming into Excel as = 0
(general format.)  I can't think of a way to store the values, and
export values and formulas to Excel...as Rocky suggested.  

 

Any help is greatly appreciated.

 

Regards,

 

Keith E. Williamson | Assist. Controller| kwilliamson at rtkl.com

RTKL Associates Inc. | 901 South Bond Street | Baltimore, Maryland
21231-3305

410-537-6098 direct | 410-276-2136 fax | www.rtkl.com
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From wdhindman at dejpolsystems.com  Thu Nov 30 09:23:40 2006
From: wdhindman at dejpolsystems.com (William Hindman)
Date: Thu, 30 Nov 2006 10:23:40 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Where to place a filter
References: <004d01c7147e$2ede8bc0$e1265b05@m6805>
Message-ID: <003301c71493$84061e50$3e3de844@50NM721>

...or not ...remember that Access uses the Rushmore query optimization 
algorithms which build adhoc indices based on the actual data in addition to 
the indices you've spec'd ...it could be that when you changed the index the 
first time that you forced a new query optimization that gave a much better 
result ...and that when you redid the query, Access retained the optimized 
adhoc indices because the change was actually immaterial ...in other words 
you had added a lot of data since you first built the query and when you 
forced it to review its optimization it did so with the additional data 
considered ...and when you reverted, the optimization held because the speed 
increase was based on the data rather than the index.

...or something like that :)

...so the real answer is that when you've added a large amount of data into 
an Access database, you may find that your original queries work much faster 
if you force them to reoptimize.

William Hindman

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From: "JWColby" <jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com>
To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'" 
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Thursday, November 30, 2006 7:50 AM
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Where to place a filter


> There is more to the story, which leaves me completely confused.
>
> In the process of fixing the problem, I had dropped the AgencyID FK from 
> the
> tblChild table and pulled in the AgencyID PK from tblAgency, and then
> applied the filter to the AgencyID PK.  To do further testing I then 
> pulled
> in the FK from the tblChild table again and moved the filter back to that 
> FK
> field and the speed was still 3 seconds!
>
> To summarize, I had an extremely slow query.  I discovered that if I 
> simply
> pulled the PK from the tblAgency and applied the filter to that (dropping
> the FK AgencyID from the tblChild out of the query in the process) the 
> query
> went from 3 minutes down to 3 seconds.  However when I pulled the AgencyID
> FK back out of the tblChild and reapplied the filter to the FK, the query
> time remained at 3 seconds.
>
> Hmmmm.....
>
> It certainly sounds like something about the query was saved in the
> background, and whatever that something was it was corrupted or something.
> Changing the query by pulling the PK and applying the filter to that,
> dropping the FK in the process, perhaps caused something in the background
> to be corrected.
>
> I dunno.  I have never seen anything like this before.
>
> Sadly it means I cannot necessarily look for speedups in my existing
> database by moving a filter from an FK to the corresponding PK.
>
>
> John W. Colby
> Colby Consulting
> www.ColbyConsulting.com
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of JWColby
> Sent: Thursday, November 30, 2006 6:45 AM
> To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
> Subject: [AccessD] Where to place a filter
>
> I found an interesting anomaly today.  I was troubleshooting why a query 
> was
> two orders of magnitude slower in a query in a new version of a database 
> vs.
> the same query in an older version of the database.  To make a long story
> short:
>
> Two tables, Agency / child
>
> Agency has a PKID
> Child has a FK for the agency PKID
> Child joined to agency on this PK/FK
>
> Filter on the FK in child yields a query 3 minutes long Move the filter to
> the Agency PKID the time drops to 3 seconds!!!
>
> I have to assume that the difference lies in the fact that the PK is a
> unique index vs. a non-unique index for a FK.
>
> I have to say that I had never thought about this specific subject and 
> just
> treated an index as an index, but in the future I will examine carefully
> applying a filter on an FK as opposed to joining to the required table and
> filtering on the PK.
>
> Any thoughts on the subject?
>
> John W. Colby
> Colby Consulting
> www.ColbyConsulting.com
>
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From Kwilliamson at RTKL.com  Thu Nov 30 09:38:48 2006
From: Kwilliamson at RTKL.com (Keith Williamson)
Date: Thu, 30 Nov 2006 10:38:48 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Still on the Reporting
In-Reply-To: <002c01c71493$2240f960$6401a8c0@HAL9005>
Message-ID: <B61870319AC0CC42A143BA69E5798D08033FDE@fenwick.rtkl.rtkl.net>

Thanks, Rocky.  

Well...it is only out of the running...because I couldn't find any
reference online for doing this....that wasn't A) bought; and B)
problematic.  If you've got something otherwise.....I'd LOVE to put it
back into the running.

:)

Thanks,

Keith E. Williamson | Assist. Controller| kwilliamson at rtkl.com

RTKL Associates Inc. | 901 South Bond Street | Baltimore, Maryland
21231-3305

410-537-6098 direct | 410-276-2136 fax | www.rtkl.com


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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Beach Access
Software
Sent: Thursday, November 30, 2006 10:21 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Still on the Reporting

Keith:

I've also got a module that exports to a comma delimited, CSV file with
quotes around the text fields.  Can send that off-line if it would help.

Why is CSV out of the running now?

Rocky


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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Keith
Williamson
Sent: Thursday, November 30, 2006 7:08 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: [AccessD] Still on the Reporting

Man...I forgot what a pain in the A@& getting reports out of Access is.

 

I asked earlier how to export a report into csv format....doesn't seem
that is likely.  I need to ultimately generate a csv format file, to
import into our sql-based application.  This is for journal entries.  I
have written a couple of reports to generate journal
entries....utilizing the different levels of grouping and summing.  A
good bit of the report is taking data, at different groupings, and
calculating percentages to apply to user-entered data (for allocating
overhead to different entities and account numbers.)  Since csv is out,
I am resigned to bring the data into excel...and then export to csv
format.

 

The problem is that, oddly, when I am looking at the data on the report
(on screen) and then hit the "Analyze It with Excel" button....the
columns come over in different order than the report.  Plus, one of the
fields is a text field = "00".  It keeps coming into Excel as = 0
(general format.)  I can't think of a way to store the values, and
export values and formulas to Excel...as Rocky suggested.  

 

Any help is greatly appreciated.

 

Regards,

 

Keith E. Williamson | Assist. Controller| kwilliamson at rtkl.com

RTKL Associates Inc. | 901 South Bond Street | Baltimore, Maryland
21231-3305

410-537-6098 direct | 410-276-2136 fax | www.rtkl.com
<http://www.rtkl.com/> 

 

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From wdhindman at dejpolsystems.com  Thu Nov 30 09:51:25 2006
From: wdhindman at dejpolsystems.com (William Hindman)
Date: Thu, 30 Nov 2006 10:51:25 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Still on the Reporting
References: <B61870319AC0CC42A143BA69E5798D08033FBA@fenwick.rtkl.rtkl.net>
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Keith

...I'd backup a bit and seriously consider redesigning the report to do all 
its calcs in the source query or subqueries ...that way you can either 
export the query results directly to csv or create a table to do the export 
from ...either way, you avoid having to use external software to derive the 
data you want, get much better data reliability, and probably spend a heck 
of a lot less time doing it.

William Hindman

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Keith Williamson" <Kwilliamson at rtkl.com>
To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving" 
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Thursday, November 30, 2006 10:08 AM
Subject: [AccessD] Still on the Reporting


> Man...I forgot what a pain in the A@& getting reports out of Access is.
>
>
>
> I asked earlier how to export a report into csv format....doesn't seem
> that is likely.  I need to ultimately generate a csv format file, to
> import into our sql-based application.  This is for journal entries.  I
> have written a couple of reports to generate journal
> entries....utilizing the different levels of grouping and summing.  A
> good bit of the report is taking data, at different groupings, and
> calculating percentages to apply to user-entered data (for allocating
> overhead to different entities and account numbers.)  Since csv is out,
> I am resigned to bring the data into excel...and then export to csv
> format.
>
>
>
> The problem is that, oddly, when I am looking at the data on the report
> (on screen) and then hit the "Analyze It with Excel" button....the
> columns come over in different order than the report.  Plus, one of the
> fields is a text field = "00".  It keeps coming into Excel as = 0
> (general format.)  I can't think of a way to store the values, and
> export values and formulas to Excel...as Rocky suggested.
>
>
>
> Any help is greatly appreciated.
>
>
>
> Regards,
>
>
>
> Keith E. Williamson | Assist. Controller| kwilliamson at rtkl.com
>
> RTKL Associates Inc. | 901 South Bond Street | Baltimore, Maryland
> 21231-3305
>
> 410-537-6098 direct | 410-276-2136 fax | www.rtkl.com
> <http://www.rtkl.com/>
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From bchacc at san.rr.com  Thu Nov 30 09:55:17 2006
From: bchacc at san.rr.com (Beach Access Software)
Date: Thu, 30 Nov 2006 07:55:17 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] Still on the Reporting
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Message-ID: <004d01c71497$ee829160$6401a8c0@HAL9005>

Keith:

Here's a simple, brute force method of creating a CSV file with quotes
around the strings.  But if you need to do the formulas, you'll need to make
a spreadsheet.  I'll send you a doc with that method in it off line.

Rocky

Private Sub cmdExport_Click()
    
strSQL = "SELECT tblEmployer.fldEmployerLBFCode, tblEmployee.fldEmployeeSSN,
" _
    & " [fldWorkDetailMonth] & [fldWorkDetailYear] AS [Month] , " _
    & "[fldEmployeeLastName] & ',' & [fldEmployeeFirstName] AS Name, " _
    & "Sum(tblWorkDetail.fldWorkDetailHours) AS SumOffldWorkDetailHours, " _
    & "Sum(tblWorkDetail.fldWorkDetailTotal) AS SumOffldWorkDetailTotal FROM
" _
    & "tblEmployer RIGHT JOIN (tblPlan INNER JOIN (tblEmployee INNER JOIN "
_
    & "tblWorkDetail ON tblEmployee.fldEmployeeID =
tblWorkDetail.fldEmployeeID) ON " _
    & "tblPlan.fldPlanID = tblWorkDetail.fldPlanID) ON
tblEmployer.fldEmployerID = " _
    & "tblWorkDetail.fldEmployerID WHERE (((tblPlan.fldPlanName) = '401a')
And " _
    & "((tblWorkDetail.fldWorkDetailEntryMonth) = " _
    & Forms!frm401aMonthlyReport!cboEntryMonth.Column(0) & ") And " _
    & "((tblWorkDetail.fldWorkDetailEntryYear) = " _
    & Forms!frm401aMonthlyReport!cboEntryYear.Column(0) & ")) GROUP BY " _
    & "tblEmployer.fldEmployerLBFCode, tblEmployee.fldEmployeeSSN, " _
    & "[fldWorkDetailMonth] & [fldWorkDetailYear], " _
    & "[fldEmployeeLastName] & ',' & [fldEmployeeFirstName] " _
    & "ORDER BY tblEmployee.fldEmployeeSSN;"
    
Set db = CurrentDb
Set rs = db.OpenRecordset(strSQL)

If rs.BOF = True And rs.EOF = True Then
    MsgBox "No Records to Export.", vbExclamation
    Exit Sub
End If

txtExportFile = db.Name

Do While Right(txtExportFile, 1) <> "\"
    txtExportFile = Left(txtExportFile, Len(txtExportFile) - 1)
Loop
txtExportFile = txtExportFile & "401 Text File For " &
Me.cboEntryMonth.Column(1) & " " & Me.cboEntryYear.Column(0) & ".txt"

On Error Resume Next
Kill txtExportFile
On Error GoTo 0

Open txtExportFile For Output As #1

Do While Not rs.EOF
    Print #1, """" & Right("00000" & Trim(str(Nz(rs!fldEmployerLBFCode))),
5) _
        & """" & "," & """" & Right("000000000" &
Trim(str(rs!fldEmployeeSSN)), 9) _
        & """" & "," & """" & rs!Name & """" _
        & "," & """" & AlphaMonthYear(rs!Month) & """" & "," _
        & rs![SumOffldWorkDetailHours] & "," & rs![SumOffldWorkDetailTotal]
    rs.MoveNext
Loop

Close #1

MsgBox "Export Done.", vbExclamation

End Sub

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Keith Williamson
Sent: Thursday, November 30, 2006 7:39 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Still on the Reporting

Thanks, Rocky.  

Well...it is only out of the running...because I couldn't find any
reference online for doing this....that wasn't A) bought; and B)
problematic.  If you've got something otherwise.....I'd LOVE to put it
back into the running.

:)

Thanks,

Keith E. Williamson | Assist. Controller| kwilliamson at rtkl.com

RTKL Associates Inc. | 901 South Bond Street | Baltimore, Maryland
21231-3305

410-537-6098 direct | 410-276-2136 fax | www.rtkl.com


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Beach Access
Software
Sent: Thursday, November 30, 2006 10:21 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Still on the Reporting

Keith:

I've also got a module that exports to a comma delimited, CSV file with
quotes around the text fields.  Can send that off-line if it would help.

Why is CSV out of the running now?

Rocky


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Keith
Williamson
Sent: Thursday, November 30, 2006 7:08 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: [AccessD] Still on the Reporting

Man...I forgot what a pain in the A@& getting reports out of Access is.

 

I asked earlier how to export a report into csv format....doesn't seem
that is likely.  I need to ultimately generate a csv format file, to
import into our sql-based application.  This is for journal entries.  I
have written a couple of reports to generate journal
entries....utilizing the different levels of grouping and summing.  A
good bit of the report is taking data, at different groupings, and
calculating percentages to apply to user-entered data (for allocating
overhead to different entities and account numbers.)  Since csv is out,
I am resigned to bring the data into excel...and then export to csv
format.

 

The problem is that, oddly, when I am looking at the data on the report
(on screen) and then hit the "Analyze It with Excel" button....the
columns come over in different order than the report.  Plus, one of the
fields is a text field = "00".  It keeps coming into Excel as = 0
(general format.)  I can't think of a way to store the values, and
export values and formulas to Excel...as Rocky suggested.  

 

Any help is greatly appreciated.

 

Regards,

 

Keith E. Williamson | Assist. Controller| kwilliamson at rtkl.com

RTKL Associates Inc. | 901 South Bond Street | Baltimore, Maryland
21231-3305

410-537-6098 direct | 410-276-2136 fax | www.rtkl.com
<http://www.rtkl.com/> 

 

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From jimdettman at verizon.net  Thu Nov 30 10:08:45 2006
From: jimdettman at verizon.net (Jim Dettman)
Date: Thu, 30 Nov 2006 11:08:45 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Where to place a filter
In-Reply-To: <004301c71474$efa70210$e1265b05@m6805>
Message-ID: <011d01c71499$d14ec260$8abea8c0@XPS>

John,

<<Any thoughts on the subject?>>

A.  JET has more options for query optimizations on a unique index.

B.  When filtering is done, it's a toss up if you should filter on the one
or the many side.  Table sizes can have a big impact, so best practice is to
test both and use the one that is the fastest.

Jim.

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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of JWColby
Sent: Thursday, November 30, 2006 6:45 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] Where to place a filter

I found an interesting anomaly today.  I was troubleshooting why a query was
two orders of magnitude slower in a query in a new version of a database vs.
the same query in an older version of the database.  To make a long story
short:
 
Two tables, Agency / child
 
Agency has a PKID
Child has a FK for the agency PKID
Child joined to agency on this PK/FK
 
Filter on the FK in child yields a query 3 minutes long
Move the filter to the Agency PKID the time drops to 3 seconds!!!
 
I have to assume that the difference lies in the fact that the PK is a
unique index vs. a non-unique index for a FK.
 
I have to say that I had never thought about this specific subject and just
treated an index as an index, but in the future I will examine carefully
applying a filter on an FK as opposed to joining to the required table and
filtering on the PK.
 
Any thoughts on the subject?
 
John W. Colby
Colby Consulting
www.ColbyConsulting.com
 
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From dgibso at uark.edu  Thu Nov 30 10:16:14 2006
From: dgibso at uark.edu (David A Gibson)
Date: Thu, 30 Nov 2006 10:16:14 -0600
Subject: [AccessD] Still on the Reporting
In-Reply-To: <004d01c71497$ee829160$6401a8c0@HAL9005>
References: <B61870319AC0CC42A143BA69E5798D08033FDE@fenwick.rtkl.rtkl.net>
	<004d01c71497$ee829160$6401a8c0@HAL9005>
Message-ID: <7.0.1.0.0.20061130100558.01e40a38@uark.edu>

Been following this topic with interest.  I do an XLS export from a 
Form command button onClick event.

DoCmd.TransferSpreadsheet acExport, acSpreadsheetTypeExcel3, 
"qry1234", "Drive:\Dir\subDir\Filename" & ".xls", yes, ""

It will overwrite the file each time but you can always append the 
date by using

Filename_" & Format(Date, "mmddyy") & ".xls"

Works for me.

David G.


At 09:55 AM 11/30/2006, you wrote:
>Keith:
>
>Here's a simple, brute force method of creating a CSV file with quotes
>around the strings.  But if you need to do the formulas, you'll need to make
>a spreadsheet.  I'll send you a doc with that method in it off line.
>
>Rocky
>
>Private Sub cmdExport_Click()
>
>strSQL = "SELECT tblEmployer.fldEmployerLBFCode, tblEmployee.fldEmployeeSSN,
>" _
>     & " [fldWorkDetailMonth] & [fldWorkDetailYear] AS [Month] , " _
>     & "[fldEmployeeLastName] & ',' & [fldEmployeeFirstName] AS Name, " _
>     & "Sum(tblWorkDetail.fldWorkDetailHours) AS SumOffldWorkDetailHours, " _
>     & "Sum(tblWorkDetail.fldWorkDetailTotal) AS SumOffldWorkDetailTotal FROM
>" _
>     & "tblEmployer RIGHT JOIN (tblPlan INNER JOIN (tblEmployee INNER JOIN "
>_
>     & "tblWorkDetail ON tblEmployee.fldEmployeeID =
>tblWorkDetail.fldEmployeeID) ON " _
>     & "tblPlan.fldPlanID = tblWorkDetail.fldPlanID) ON
>tblEmployer.fldEmployerID = " _
>     & "tblWorkDetail.fldEmployerID WHERE (((tblPlan.fldPlanName) = '401a')
>And " _
>     & "((tblWorkDetail.fldWorkDetailEntryMonth) = " _
>     & Forms!frm401aMonthlyReport!cboEntryMonth.Column(0) & ") And " _
>     & "((tblWorkDetail.fldWorkDetailEntryYear) = " _
>     & Forms!frm401aMonthlyReport!cboEntryYear.Column(0) & ")) GROUP BY " _
>     & "tblEmployer.fldEmployerLBFCode, tblEmployee.fldEmployeeSSN, " _
>     & "[fldWorkDetailMonth] & [fldWorkDetailYear], " _
>     & "[fldEmployeeLastName] & ',' & [fldEmployeeFirstName] " _
>     & "ORDER BY tblEmployee.fldEmployeeSSN;"
>
>Set db = CurrentDb
>Set rs = db.OpenRecordset(strSQL)
>
>If rs.BOF = True And rs.EOF = True Then
>     MsgBox "No Records to Export.", vbExclamation
>     Exit Sub
>End If
>
>txtExportFile = db.Name
>
>Do While Right(txtExportFile, 1) <> "\"
>     txtExportFile = Left(txtExportFile, Len(txtExportFile) - 1)
>Loop
>txtExportFile = txtExportFile & "401 Text File For " &
>Me.cboEntryMonth.Column(1) & " " & Me.cboEntryYear.Column(0) & ".txt"
>
>On Error Resume Next
>Kill txtExportFile
>On Error GoTo 0
>
>Open txtExportFile For Output As #1
>
>Do While Not rs.EOF
>     Print #1, """" & Right("00000" & Trim(str(Nz(rs!fldEmployerLBFCode))),
>5) _
>         & """" & "," & """" & Right("000000000" &
>Trim(str(rs!fldEmployeeSSN)), 9) _
>         & """" & "," & """" & rs!Name & """" _
>         & "," & """" & AlphaMonthYear(rs!Month) & """" & "," _
>         & rs![SumOffldWorkDetailHours] & "," & rs![SumOffldWorkDetailTotal]
>     rs.MoveNext
>Loop
>
>Close #1
>
>MsgBox "Export Done.", vbExclamation
>
>End Sub
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Keith Williamson
>Sent: Thursday, November 30, 2006 7:39 AM
>To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
>Subject: Re: [AccessD] Still on the Reporting
>
>Thanks, Rocky.
>
>Well...it is only out of the running...because I couldn't find any
>reference online for doing this....that wasn't A) bought; and B)
>problematic.  If you've got something otherwise.....I'd LOVE to put it
>back into the running.
>
>:)
>
>Thanks,
>
>Keith E. Williamson | Assist. Controller| kwilliamson at rtkl.com
>
>RTKL Associates Inc. | 901 South Bond Street | Baltimore, Maryland
>21231-3305
>
>410-537-6098 direct | 410-276-2136 fax | www.rtkl.com
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Beach Access
>Software
>Sent: Thursday, November 30, 2006 10:21 AM
>To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
>Subject: Re: [AccessD] Still on the Reporting
>
>Keith:
>
>I've also got a module that exports to a comma delimited, CSV file with
>quotes around the text fields.  Can send that off-line if it would help.
>
>Why is CSV out of the running now?
>
>Rocky
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Keith
>Williamson
>Sent: Thursday, November 30, 2006 7:08 AM
>To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
>Subject: [AccessD] Still on the Reporting
>
>Man...I forgot what a pain in the A@& getting reports out of Access is.
>
>
>
>I asked earlier how to export a report into csv format....doesn't seem
>that is likely.  I need to ultimately generate a csv format file, to
>import into our sql-based application.  This is for journal entries.  I
>have written a couple of reports to generate journal
>entries....utilizing the different levels of grouping and summing.  A
>good bit of the report is taking data, at different groupings, and
>calculating percentages to apply to user-entered data (for allocating
>overhead to different entities and account numbers.)  Since csv is out,
>I am resigned to bring the data into excel...and then export to csv
>format.
>
>
>
>The problem is that, oddly, when I am looking at the data on the report
>(on screen) and then hit the "Analyze It with Excel" button....the
>columns come over in different order than the report.  Plus, one of the
>fields is a text field = "00".  It keeps coming into Excel as = 0
>(general format.)  I can't think of a way to store the values, and
>export values and formulas to Excel...as Rocky suggested.
>
>
>
>Any help is greatly appreciated.
>
>
>
>Regards,
>
>
>
>Keith E. Williamson | Assist. Controller| kwilliamson at rtkl.com
>
>RTKL Associates Inc. | 901 South Bond Street | Baltimore, Maryland
>21231-3305
>
>410-537-6098 direct | 410-276-2136 fax | www.rtkl.com
><http://www.rtkl.com/>
>
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From Jim.Hale at FleetPride.com  Thu Nov 30 10:41:19 2006
From: Jim.Hale at FleetPride.com (Hale, Jim)
Date: Thu, 30 Nov 2006 10:41:19 -0600
Subject: [AccessD] Still on the Reporting
Message-ID: <6A6AA9DF57E4F046BDA1E273BDDB67727DE132@corp-es01.fleetpride.com>

I have automated a number of JEs including allocations. Generally I create
the queries in Access and export the results directly to an Excel template.
Usually I do all the calculations in Access so that Excel is used simply as
a platform to upload the JE. I have a sheet in Excel that prepares the JE
(makes sure it balances, etc.) and code which generates a csv file from this
worksheet, a bat and cmd file and uploads the data to the AS400. If the
calculations are too complicated  using queries I still send the
intermediate data (usually the result of group queries) to Excel and compute
the allocations and then upload the result. I can send you the Excel sheet
with the code if you are interested.

Regards,
Jim Hale

-----Original Message-----
From: Keith Williamson [mailto:Kwilliamson at rtkl.com]
Sent: Thursday, November 30, 2006 9:08 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: [AccessD] Still on the Reporting


Man...I forgot what a pain in the A@& getting reports out of Access is.

 

I asked earlier how to export a report into csv format....doesn't seem
that is likely.  I need to ultimately generate a csv format file, to
import into our sql-based application.  This is for journal entries.  I
have written a couple of reports to generate journal
entries....utilizing the different levels of grouping and summing.  A
good bit of the report is taking data, at different groupings, and
calculating percentages to apply to user-entered data (for allocating
overhead to different entities and account numbers.)  Since csv is out,
I am resigned to bring the data into excel...and then export to csv
format.

 

The problem is that, oddly, when I am looking at the data on the report
(on screen) and then hit the "Analyze It with Excel" button....the
columns come over in different order than the report.  Plus, one of the
fields is a text field = "00".  It keeps coming into Excel as = 0
(general format.)  I can't think of a way to store the values, and
export values and formulas to Excel...as Rocky suggested.  

 

Any help is greatly appreciated.

 

Regards,

 

Keith E. Williamson | Assist. Controller| kwilliamson at rtkl.com

RTKL Associates Inc. | 901 South Bond Street | Baltimore, Maryland
21231-3305

410-537-6098 direct | 410-276-2136 fax | www.rtkl.com
<http://www.rtkl.com/> 

 

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From Jim.Hale at FleetPride.com  Thu Nov 30 11:00:35 2006
From: Jim.Hale at FleetPride.com (Hale, Jim)
Date: Thu, 30 Nov 2006 11:00:35 -0600
Subject: [AccessD] Still on the Reporting
Message-ID: <6A6AA9DF57E4F046BDA1E273BDDB67727DE133@corp-es01.fleetpride.com>

BTW allocations are another great use of non cartesian joins. First create a
groupby query which generates a total (one field one record). Create a query
with the detail records which add to the total. Place the two queries in the
design grid without any join. The result set will have the total as a field
in every record so it is a simple matter to divide the detail by the total
to generate a percentage.

As I think about it another reason I dump the data to Excel is because
allocations inevitably don't balance (usually by pennies) due to rounding.
It is a simple matter in Excel to create a formula to handle the rounding.

Jim Hale

-----Original Message-----
From: Keith Williamson [mailto:Kwilliamson at rtkl.com]
Sent: Thursday, November 30, 2006 9:08 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: [AccessD] Still on the Reporting


Man...I forgot what a pain in the A@& getting reports out of Access is.

 

I asked earlier how to export a report into csv format....doesn't seem
that is likely.  I need to ultimately generate a csv format file, to
import into our sql-based application.  This is for journal entries.  I
have written a couple of reports to generate journal
entries....utilizing the different levels of grouping and summing.  A
good bit of the report is taking data, at different groupings, and
calculating percentages to apply to user-entered data (for allocating
overhead to different entities and account numbers.)  Since csv is out,
I am resigned to bring the data into excel...and then export to csv
format.

 

The problem is that, oddly, when I am looking at the data on the report
(on screen) and then hit the "Analyze It with Excel" button....the
columns come over in different order than the report.  Plus, one of the
fields is a text field = "00".  It keeps coming into Excel as = 0
(general format.)  I can't think of a way to store the values, and
export values and formulas to Excel...as Rocky suggested.  

 

Any help is greatly appreciated.

 

Regards,

 

Keith E. Williamson | Assist. Controller| kwilliamson at rtkl.com


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From Gustav at cactus.dk  Thu Nov 30 11:08:52 2006
From: Gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Thu, 30 Nov 2006 18:08:52 +0100
Subject: [AccessD] Still on the Reporting
Message-ID: <s56f1e5b.038@cactus.dk>

Hi Keith

I think you need to rethink this. Creating reports to export to Excel to export to csv .. doesn't make sense.

If you can't extract and build the requested records with one query, use two or more and collect them in a union query - or write to a temp table - which you use as source for the export to csv (if this is the optimum format for the import).

Writing a csv in VBA - without the built-in export tool which can cause some troubles - is piece of cake and has been described numerous times here.
You can also use a query to write the text file directly with the help of the schema.ini file:

http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/htdig/accessd/2004-October/028800.html 

/gustav


>>> Kwilliamson at RTKL.com 30-11-2006 16:08:07 >>>
Man...I forgot what a pain in the A@& getting reports out of Access is.

 

I asked earlier how to export a report into csv format....doesn't seem
that is likely.  I need to ultimately generate a csv format file, to
import into our sql-based application.  This is for journal entries.  I
have written a couple of reports to generate journal
entries....utilizing the different levels of grouping and summing.  A
good bit of the report is taking data, at different groupings, and
calculating percentages to apply to user-entered data (for allocating
overhead to different entities and account numbers.)  Since csv is out,
I am resigned to bring the data into excel...and then export to csv
format.

 

The problem is that, oddly, when I am looking at the data on the report
(on screen) and then hit the "Analyze It with Excel" button....the
columns come over in different order than the report.  Plus, one of the
fields is a text field = "00".  It keeps coming into Excel as = 0
(general format.)  I can't think of a way to store the values, and
export values and formulas to Excel...as Rocky suggested.  

 

Any help is greatly appreciated.

 

Regards,

 

Keith E. Williamson | Assist. Controller| kwilliamson at rtkl.com 

RTKL Associates Inc. | 901 South Bond Street | Baltimore, Maryland
21231-3305

410-537-6098 direct | 410-276-2136 fax | www.rtkl.com 
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From Kwilliamson at RTKL.com  Thu Nov 30 11:16:19 2006
From: Kwilliamson at RTKL.com (Keith Williamson)
Date: Thu, 30 Nov 2006 12:16:19 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Still on the Reporting
In-Reply-To: <6A6AA9DF57E4F046BDA1E273BDDB67727DE133@corp-es01.fleetpride.com>
Message-ID: <B61870319AC0CC42A143BA69E5798D0803405C@fenwick.rtkl.rtkl.net>

Good thoughts.  Thanks.

I suppose this is what I will have to do, as well.  I was trying to do
something quick and easy.  In the end......it is neither.  :)

Keith E. Williamson | Assist. Controller| kwilliamson at rtkl.com

RTKL Associates Inc. | 901 South Bond Street | Baltimore, Maryland
21231-3305

410-537-6098 direct | 410-276-2136 fax | www.rtkl.com


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Hale, Jim
Sent: Thursday, November 30, 2006 12:01 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Still on the Reporting

BTW allocations are another great use of non cartesian joins. First
create a
groupby query which generates a total (one field one record). Create a
query
with the detail records which add to the total. Place the two queries in
the
design grid without any join. The result set will have the total as a
field
in every record so it is a simple matter to divide the detail by the
total
to generate a percentage.

As I think about it another reason I dump the data to Excel is because
allocations inevitably don't balance (usually by pennies) due to
rounding.
It is a simple matter in Excel to create a formula to handle the
rounding.

Jim Hale

-----Original Message-----
From: Keith Williamson [mailto:Kwilliamson at rtkl.com]
Sent: Thursday, November 30, 2006 9:08 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: [AccessD] Still on the Reporting


Man...I forgot what a pain in the A@& getting reports out of Access is.

 

I asked earlier how to export a report into csv format....doesn't seem
that is likely.  I need to ultimately generate a csv format file, to
import into our sql-based application.  This is for journal entries.  I
have written a couple of reports to generate journal
entries....utilizing the different levels of grouping and summing.  A
good bit of the report is taking data, at different groupings, and
calculating percentages to apply to user-entered data (for allocating
overhead to different entities and account numbers.)  Since csv is out,
I am resigned to bring the data into excel...and then export to csv
format.

 

The problem is that, oddly, when I am looking at the data on the report
(on screen) and then hit the "Analyze It with Excel" button....the
columns come over in different order than the report.  Plus, one of the
fields is a text field = "00".  It keeps coming into Excel as = 0
(general format.)  I can't think of a way to store the values, and
export values and formulas to Excel...as Rocky suggested.  

 

Any help is greatly appreciated.

 

Regards,

 

Keith E. Williamson | Assist. Controller| kwilliamson at rtkl.com


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From Jim.Hale at FleetPride.com  Thu Nov 30 11:21:04 2006
From: Jim.Hale at FleetPride.com (Hale, Jim)
Date: Thu, 30 Nov 2006 11:21:04 -0600
Subject: [AccessD] Still on the Reporting
Message-ID: <6A6AA9DF57E4F046BDA1E273BDDB67727DE134@corp-es01.fleetpride.com>

quick allocations is an oxymoron :-)
Jim Hale

-----Original Message-----
From: Keith Williamson [mailto:Kwilliamson at rtkl.com]
Sent: Thursday, November 30, 2006 11:16 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Still on the Reporting


Good thoughts.  Thanks.

I suppose this is what I will have to do, as well.  I was trying to do
something quick and easy.  In the end......it is neither.  :)

Keith E. Williamson | Assist. Controller| kwilliamson at rtkl.com

RTKL Associates Inc. | 901 South Bond Street | Baltimore, Maryland
21231-3305

410-537-6098 direct | 410-276-2136 fax | www.rtkl.com


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Hale, Jim
Sent: Thursday, November 30, 2006 12:01 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Still on the Reporting

BTW allocations are another great use of non cartesian joins. First
create a
groupby query which generates a total (one field one record). Create a
query
with the detail records which add to the total. Place the two queries in
the
design grid without any join. The result set will have the total as a
field
in every record so it is a simple matter to divide the detail by the
total
to generate a percentage.

As I think about it another reason I dump the data to Excel is because
allocations inevitably don't balance (usually by pennies) due to
rounding.
It is a simple matter in Excel to create a formula to handle the
rounding.

Jim Hale

-----Original Message-----
From: Keith Williamson [mailto:Kwilliamson at rtkl.com]
Sent: Thursday, November 30, 2006 9:08 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: [AccessD] Still on the Reporting


Man...I forgot what a pain in the A@& getting reports out of Access is.

 

I asked earlier how to export a report into csv format....doesn't seem
that is likely.  I need to ultimately generate a csv format file, to
import into our sql-based application.  This is for journal entries.  I
have written a couple of reports to generate journal
entries....utilizing the different levels of grouping and summing.  A
good bit of the report is taking data, at different groupings, and
calculating percentages to apply to user-entered data (for allocating
overhead to different entities and account numbers.)  Since csv is out,
I am resigned to bring the data into excel...and then export to csv
format.

 

The problem is that, oddly, when I am looking at the data on the report
(on screen) and then hit the "Analyze It with Excel" button....the
columns come over in different order than the report.  Plus, one of the
fields is a text field = "00".  It keeps coming into Excel as = 0
(general format.)  I can't think of a way to store the values, and
export values and formulas to Excel...as Rocky suggested.  

 

Any help is greatly appreciated.

 

Regards,

 

Keith E. Williamson | Assist. Controller| kwilliamson at rtkl.com


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From markamatte at hotmail.com  Thu Nov 30 12:11:57 2006
From: markamatte at hotmail.com (Mark A Matte)
Date: Thu, 30 Nov 2006 18:11:57 +0000
Subject: [AccessD] Email Automation to Outlook problem
In-Reply-To: <20061130000950.63940.qmail@web88208.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <BAY127-F12C6AC8F0075E4DAE67231D2DB0@phx.gbl>

The only reason I use it because it was already on the box and easy to 
automate...but its not working now.  All I need to send is a short text 
message...and be automated...any easy suggestions other than outlook?

Thanks,

Mark A. Matte


>From: artful at rogers.com
>Reply-To: Access Developers discussion and problem 
>solving<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
>To: Access Developers discussion and problem 
>solving<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
>Subject: Re: [AccessD] Email Automation to Outlook problem
>Date: Wed, 29 Nov 2006 16:09:50 -0800 (PST)
>
>LOL. I didn't realize that anyone still did use Outlook. Ok, I stand 
>corrected.
>
>
>----- Original Message ----
>From: Gustav Brock <Gustav at cactus.dk>
>To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
>Sent: Wednesday, November 29, 2006 12:09:03 PM
>Subject: Re: [AccessD] Email Automation to Outlook problem
>
>
>Hi Susan and Chris
>
>Oh, that's another story - I don't use Outlook - so I cannot help.
>Could it be an automatic Windows Updating issue?
>
>/gustav
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From adtp at airtelbroadband.in  Thu Nov 30 12:06:06 2006
From: adtp at airtelbroadband.in (A.D.TEJPAL)
Date: Thu, 30 Nov 2006 23:36:06 +0530
Subject: [AccessD] Still on the Reporting
References: <B61870319AC0CC42A143BA69E5798D08033FBA@fenwick.rtkl.rtkl.net>
Message-ID: <012101c714aa$6394f210$da0265cb@pcadt>

Keith,

    For ensuring proper alignment & formatting along with appropriate display of group footers, while exporting an access report to excel, my sample db named  Reports_AccessToExcelAndWord  might be of interest to you. It is available at Rogers Access Library (other developers library). Link - http://www.rogersaccesslibrary.com/OtherLibraries.asp#Tejpal,A.D.
 
    You could adapt the underlying approach suitably, for your specific needs.
 
Best wishes,
A.D.Tejpal
---------------

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Keith Williamson 
  To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving 
  Sent: Thursday, November 30, 2006 20:38
  Subject: [AccessD] Still on the Reporting


  Man...I forgot what a pain in the A@& getting reports out of Access is. 

  I asked earlier how to export a report into csv format....doesn't seem
  that is likely.  I need to ultimately generate a csv format file, to
  import into our sql-based application.  This is for journal entries.  I
  have written a couple of reports to generate journal
  entries....utilizing the different levels of grouping and summing.  A
  good bit of the report is taking data, at different groupings, and
  calculating percentages to apply to user-entered data (for allocating
  overhead to different entities and account numbers.)  Since csv is out,
  I am resigned to bring the data into excel...and then export to csv
  format. 

  The problem is that, oddly, when I am looking at the data on the report (on screen) and then hit the "Analyze It with Excel" button....the columns come over in different order than the report.  Plus, one of the fields is a text field = "00".  It keeps coming into Excel as = 0 (general format.)  I can't think of a way to store the values, and export values and formulas to Excel...as Rocky suggested.   

  Any help is greatly appreciated. 

  Regards, 

  Keith E. Williamson | Assist. Controller| kwilliamson at rtkl.com

From dgibso at uark.edu  Thu Nov 30 12:27:11 2006
From: dgibso at uark.edu (David A Gibson)
Date: Thu, 30 Nov 2006 12:27:11 -0600
Subject: [AccessD] Email Automation to Outlook problem
In-Reply-To: <BAY127-F12C6AC8F0075E4DAE67231D2DB0@phx.gbl>
References: <20061130000950.63940.qmail@web88208.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
	<BAY127-F12C6AC8F0075E4DAE67231D2DB0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <7.0.1.0.0.20061130122159.01e48838@uark.edu>

Have used this in the past and it worked well.

http://www.geocel.com/devmailer/

DevMailer is a COM (Component Object Model) object designed to send 
Email via SMTP
  from any COM / OLE / ActiveX enabled application. Currently 
DevMailer can be used from the following platforms:
    * Active Server Pages (Microsoft IIS or Chili!ASP extensions)
    * Microsoft Visual Basic 4.x/5.x/6.x
    * Microsoft Word, Access, Excel 95/97 (VBA)
    * Windows Scripting Host (cscript / wscript)
    * Perl 5.x for Win32
    * Inprise Delphi 4
    * Microsoft Visual C++ 4.x/5.x/6.x
    * Microsoft Visual J++ 1.x/6.0 (Java)
$99 for 1 user

David G

At 12:11 PM 11/30/2006, you wrote:
>The only reason I use it because it was already on the box and easy 
>to automate...but its not working now.  All I need to send is a 
>short text message...and be automated...any easy suggestions other 
>than outlook?
>
>Thanks,
>
>Mark A. Matte


From jimdettman at verizon.net  Thu Nov 30 14:59:13 2006
From: jimdettman at verizon.net (Jim Dettman)
Date: Thu, 30 Nov 2006 15:59:13 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Where to place a filter
In-Reply-To: <004d01c7147e$2ede8bc0$e1265b05@m6805>
Message-ID: <002401c714c2$65393f50$8abea8c0@XPS>

John,

  Through Experts-Exchange, I bumped into something similar, but the
opposite of what you've encountered.  A query opened in design view and
saved while the tables were empty would yield a fast execution, but if the
tables were full, a very slow execution would result.

  Using JET showplan, I found that JET was not choosing an optimal plan when
the tables were full.  It was performing the joins on the tables in reverse
(vs. the fast plan), which caused a sort to be required.  If the joins were
done the other  way, no sort was required and thus a lot of time was saved.
Basically it was a bug in the query optimizer.  Although "bug" may be too
strong of a word; the query optimizer has to draw the line somewhere in the
number of different plans it checks or it would never finish.

  Since there was no way around it, the guy I was helping finally decided on
writing a routine to empty the table, perform the query, then fill the table
back up.  As long as the query was not resaved, the fast execution plan was
always used.

Jim.

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of JWColby
Sent: Thursday, November 30, 2006 7:51 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Where to place a filter

There is more to the story, which leaves me completely confused.  

In the process of fixing the problem, I had dropped the AgencyID FK from the
tblChild table and pulled in the AgencyID PK from tblAgency, and then
applied the filter to the AgencyID PK.  To do further testing I then pulled
in the FK from the tblChild table again and moved the filter back to that FK
field and the speed was still 3 seconds!

To summarize, I had an extremely slow query.  I discovered that if I simply
pulled the PK from the tblAgency and applied the filter to that (dropping
the FK AgencyID from the tblChild out of the query in the process) the query
went from 3 minutes down to 3 seconds.  However when I pulled the AgencyID
FK back out of the tblChild and reapplied the filter to the FK, the query
time remained at 3 seconds.

Hmmmm.....

It certainly sounds like something about the query was saved in the
background, and whatever that something was it was corrupted or something.
Changing the query by pulling the PK and applying the filter to that,
dropping the FK in the process, perhaps caused something in the background
to be corrected.

I dunno.  I have never seen anything like this before.  

Sadly it means I cannot necessarily look for speedups in my existing
database by moving a filter from an FK to the corresponding PK.


John W. Colby
Colby Consulting
www.ColbyConsulting.com

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of JWColby
Sent: Thursday, November 30, 2006 6:45 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] Where to place a filter

I found an interesting anomaly today.  I was troubleshooting why a query was
two orders of magnitude slower in a query in a new version of a database vs.
the same query in an older version of the database.  To make a long story
short:
 
Two tables, Agency / child
 
Agency has a PKID
Child has a FK for the agency PKID
Child joined to agency on this PK/FK
 
Filter on the FK in child yields a query 3 minutes long Move the filter to
the Agency PKID the time drops to 3 seconds!!!
 
I have to assume that the difference lies in the fact that the PK is a
unique index vs. a non-unique index for a FK.
 
I have to say that I had never thought about this specific subject and just
treated an index as an index, but in the future I will examine carefully
applying a filter on an FK as opposed to joining to the required table and
filtering on the PK.
 
Any thoughts on the subject?
 
John W. Colby
Colby Consulting
www.ColbyConsulting.com
 
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From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com  Thu Nov 30 16:13:45 2006
From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (JWColby)
Date: Thu, 30 Nov 2006 17:13:45 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Where to place a filter
In-Reply-To: <002401c714c2$65393f50$8abea8c0@XPS>
Message-ID: <00be01c714cc$ce20f9e0$e1265b05@m6805>

LOL, that is one heck of a workaround!


John W. Colby
Colby Consulting
www.ColbyConsulting.com

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim Dettman
Sent: Thursday, November 30, 2006 3:59 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Where to place a filter

John,

  Through Experts-Exchange, I bumped into something similar, but the
opposite of what you've encountered.  A query opened in design view and
saved while the tables were empty would yield a fast execution, but if the
tables were full, a very slow execution would result.

  Using JET showplan, I found that JET was not choosing an optimal plan when
the tables were full.  It was performing the joins on the tables in reverse
(vs. the fast plan), which caused a sort to be required.  If the joins were
done the other  way, no sort was required and thus a lot of time was saved.
Basically it was a bug in the query optimizer.  Although "bug" may be too
strong of a word; the query optimizer has to draw the line somewhere in the
number of different plans it checks or it would never finish.

  Since there was no way around it, the guy I was helping finally decided on
writing a routine to empty the table, perform the query, then fill the table
back up.  As long as the query was not resaved, the fast execution plan was
always used.

Jim.

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of JWColby
Sent: Thursday, November 30, 2006 7:51 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Where to place a filter

There is more to the story, which leaves me completely confused.  

In the process of fixing the problem, I had dropped the AgencyID FK from the
tblChild table and pulled in the AgencyID PK from tblAgency, and then
applied the filter to the AgencyID PK.  To do further testing I then pulled
in the FK from the tblChild table again and moved the filter back to that FK
field and the speed was still 3 seconds!

To summarize, I had an extremely slow query.  I discovered that if I simply
pulled the PK from the tblAgency and applied the filter to that (dropping
the FK AgencyID from the tblChild out of the query in the process) the query
went from 3 minutes down to 3 seconds.  However when I pulled the AgencyID
FK back out of the tblChild and reapplied the filter to the FK, the query
time remained at 3 seconds.

Hmmmm.....

It certainly sounds like something about the query was saved in the
background, and whatever that something was it was corrupted or something.
Changing the query by pulling the PK and applying the filter to that,
dropping the FK in the process, perhaps caused something in the background
to be corrected.

I dunno.  I have never seen anything like this before.  

Sadly it means I cannot necessarily look for speedups in my existing
database by moving a filter from an FK to the corresponding PK.


John W. Colby
Colby Consulting
www.ColbyConsulting.com

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of JWColby
Sent: Thursday, November 30, 2006 6:45 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] Where to place a filter

I found an interesting anomaly today.  I was troubleshooting why a query was
two orders of magnitude slower in a query in a new version of a database vs.
the same query in an older version of the database.  To make a long story
short:
 
Two tables, Agency / child
 
Agency has a PKID
Child has a FK for the agency PKID
Child joined to agency on this PK/FK
 
Filter on the FK in child yields a query 3 minutes long Move the filter to
the Agency PKID the time drops to 3 seconds!!!
 
I have to assume that the difference lies in the fact that the PK is a
unique index vs. a non-unique index for a FK.
 
I have to say that I had never thought about this specific subject and just
treated an index as an index, but in the future I will examine carefully
applying a filter on an FK as opposed to joining to the required table and
filtering on the PK.
 
Any thoughts on the subject?
 
John W. Colby
Colby Consulting
www.ColbyConsulting.com
 
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From bchacc at san.rr.com  Thu Nov 30 23:10:33 2006
From: bchacc at san.rr.com (Beach Access Software)
Date: Thu, 30 Nov 2006 21:10:33 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] OT: Splitting a PDF file
Message-ID: <013201c71507$07e3ea40$6401a8c0@HAL9005>

Dear List:

 

Is there any way to split up a PDF file without having the full Adobe?  

 

Our community planning group has a 128 page doc of which someone would like
just the first 23 pages.  

 

MTIA

 

Rocky

 



From darrend at nimble.com.au  Thu Nov 30 23:26:03 2006
From: darrend at nimble.com.au (Darren DICK)
Date: Fri, 1 Dec 2006 16:26:03 +1100
Subject: [AccessD] OT: Splitting a PDF file
In-Reply-To: <013201c71507$07e3ea40$6401a8c0@HAL9005>
Message-ID: <004601c71509$33206b00$111b910a@DENZILLAP>

Hi Rocky

Just a way out suggestion

Get PDF995 from PDF995.com (it's a free PDF writer) then 'print' pages 1 - 23 or
whatever to the PDF995 'printer'

That should create a new 23 page PDF file 

HTH
 
See ya

Darren
------------------


-----Original Message-----
From: Beach Access Software [mailto:bchacc at san.rr.com] 
Sent: Friday, 1 December 2006 4:11 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] OT: Splitting a PDF file

Dear List:

 

Is there any way to split up a PDF file without having the full Adobe?  

 

Our community planning group has a 128 page doc of which someone would like
just the first 23 pages.  

 

MTIA

 

Rocky

 

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