[AccessD] Strategies for populating combo boxes

McGillivray, Don [IT] Donald.A.McGillivray at sprint.com
Mon Nov 6 22:35:34 CST 2006


Wow.  I stepped away for a couple of days and find a full blown discussion in my wake.  

There's only one table and it has about 1.1 million records and 35 columns, only about 10 of which contain data that they want to be able to select from the combos.  I settled on a temp table to hold the desired lists.  Col 1 has the control's name, col 2 the value.  The report selection form sets the rowsource for each combo on open.  Takes only a few seconds.  I added a routine to populate the temp table upon demand whenever the main table has been refreshed (about once per quarter, I'm told.)  So far, there are no more than about 27K rows in the largest combo list.  The others are in the tens or hundreds.  I'm glad to know of the limit, though.  I'll be able to warn of a potential for difficulty there.  

Drew, thanks for the idea about callback functions.  And, JC, thanks for the warnings about comprehending them.  I've looked at them before and didn't quite get it.  I feel better knowing that even you found them head-twisting.  I'll have another go.  It seems like an interesting option.

Thanks to all for the suggestions!

Don

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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of DWUTKA at marlow.com
Sent: Friday, November 03, 2006 3:11 PM
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Subject: Re: [AccessD] Strategies for populating combo boxes

Oh, well I only use a callback when it's called for. (pun intended).  Most
common functions of a callback are just fine for 99% of what you need a
combo for.  The callback functionality is best for that other 1%.  For
instance, I wrote a utility that let you print or preview reports in a
database.  Using a value list runs into trouble if you have too many
reports, because it can only be ~2048 characters in length.  A callback did
the trick.

Also in tricky situations, like the one described in this thread, callbacks
provide better control of a combo/listbox.

Drew

-----Original Message-----
From: JWColby [mailto:jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com] 
Sent: Friday, November 03, 2006 5:02 PM
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LOL.  And I did and have, but to actually understand it...  I was trying to
generalize it.  To make a callback where one callback could be used for more
than one object, with more than one datasource.  It got ugly pretty quick.
If you have 500 combos in a big app and wanted to use a callback for many of
them, it gets painful building a new one for each object.

John W. Colby
Colby Consulting
www.ColbyConsulting.com

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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
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Sent: Friday, November 03, 2006 5:21 PM
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Access 97's help file was a pretty easy read to do it, along with a sample
function.

Drew

-----Original Message-----
From: JWColby [mailto:jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com]
Sent: Friday, November 03, 2006 4:17 PM
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Cool!  Good to know.  

And are you sure that combos are limited to 65K?  I seem to remember
actually running into the 32K limit, but it was awhile ago so don't sue me
if I'm wrong.  I do know that they slooowed waaaaaay doooowwwwwn at that
size. 

Now you can talk him through a callback function.  There's a subject not for
the faint of heart (at least to truly understand).

John W. Colby
Colby Consulting
www.ColbyConsulting.com

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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
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Sent: Friday, November 03, 2006 4:43 PM
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Subject: Re: [AccessD] Strategies for populating combo boxes

Combos are limited to 65k. But I just whipped together a quick routine to
add a long integer to a collection.  In debug mode, without external
indication of how fast it was going, I stopped it for after about 20
seconds, and it had millions in the collection already.  Populating the
display with the collections count property ran over 65k in about a minute.
I would say the limit is closer to 2^31.

Drew

-----Original Message-----
From: JWColby [mailto:jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com]
Sent: Friday, November 03, 2006 2:50 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Strategies for populating combo boxes

Drew,

I was going to suggest this, however IIRC (and I was going to test this the
other day), collections are limited to 2^15 items in the collection (~32 k
items).  I seem to remember that he has some large tables. 


John W. Colby
Colby Consulting
www.ColbyConsulting.com

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Sent: Friday, November 03, 2006 3:25 PM
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Subject: Re: [AccessD] Strategies for populating combo boxes

Build a collection, pull the records once to fill the collection, then
populate the combos from a Callback function (which would get the data from
the collection, vs. the recordset)

Drew

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