[AccessD] Access 2007 ULS (was: Access 2007-Microsoftis justplain stupid.)

Drew Wutka DWUTKA at Marlow.com
Tue Dec 11 17:57:55 CST 2007


This coming from Darth Colby?  ;)

Drew

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[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of jwcolby
Sent: Tuesday, December 11, 2007 3:54 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Access 2007 ULS (was: Access 2007-Microsoftis
justplain stupid.)

>Of course, I've always been somewhat of an odd goose

I think you can just leave it at that!  

;-)


John W. Colby
Colby Consulting
www.ColbyConsulting.com 
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[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Drew Wutka
Sent: Tuesday, December 11, 2007 4:31 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Access 2007 ULS (was: Access 2007 -Microsoftis
justplain stupid.)

First, they CAN create a database that is both password protected AND
encrypted.  In 2007 they merged those two abilities.  So they aren't
shying
away from all security in Access.  However, ULS provided user/role
capabilities.  With a passworded database, if you have the password, you
have complete access.  With ULS, your account and password only has the
access granted by the admin.

Second, on your skill set, you missed something I feel is another prime
differential in skill set.  APIs.  I understand why you wouldn't include
this in an Access skill set, but I would.  Of course, I've always been
somewhat of an odd goose when it comes to Access development.  I started
with just Access (97), and the more I learned about Access (both
database
and interface wise), the more I branched out.

Drew

-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Dan Waters
Sent: Tuesday, December 11, 2007 11:24 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Access 2007 ULS (was: Access 2007 - Microsoftis
justplain stupid.)

I suspect that MS is doing this gradually.

>From reading MS info on A2007, you cannot create a database in A2007
that
uses ULS.  You can convert a previous version database to A2007, and
then
A2007 will support ULS.

But people can't, with only A2007, create a database which is password
protected.  For many or most companies that is a prerequisite for a
'critical' database.

Last year I made a chart to help explain this.  I think that MS saw the
same
'red zone' that I see and wants to create a gap instead.  That will
separate
casual users from people who are determined to be developers.  And JC -
notice that Classes are right up on top!

http://www.promationsystems.com/PSI/Info/accessskillzones.htm

Dan


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