[AccessD] OT: FrontPage Websites

Max Wanadoo max.wanadoo at gmail.com
Sat Dec 15 10:23:34 CST 2007


John, some people will hate me for this, but I use a LOT of template driven
web sites 'cos it is easy for me to set up and then hand over to my staff.
The websitebuilder at 1&1 (wwww.oneandone.co.uk) is an example and there are
TONS like them doing the same thing.  Our web formum (which attracts interst
from all over the World is a simple forum based in Canada).

Send me your email address off-line and I will send you some links on stuff
we are currently building.

What does the User need to know about IT: NOTHING. 

Just Great for *old* people (and don't you dare comment on that)!

Max


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[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of jwcolby
Sent: Saturday, December 15, 2007 2:46 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: Re: [AccessD] OT: FrontPage Websites

My sister-in-law Katie in Rochester, NY has hired this retired guy that does
computer instruction for older people, quite the niche market.  Anyway,
Katie is retired from teaching and has opened a consulting business.  This
guy is helping her set up a web site using Front Page, because he knows that
and because (he claims) the user can use FP to modify things themselves.
thus he will show her how to use FP, help her get the web site hosted and
running, and then she can do stuff herself, and he can help if she runs into
trouble.

Now I used FP back in the early 2000s and didn't much like it, but I imagine
it has come a long ways since then and maybe it is a good answer for this
scenario.  Katie is NOT a computer person, though certainly not computer
illiterate.

I do not do web page stuff as anyone who has seen my site knows.  Mine is
DotNetNuke based precisely because I can at least just edit text to add
stuff to the page.

So for Katie, what is recommended?  Is Expression as easy but more powerful?
I can get ahold of her mentor to nudge him in that direction, but in the end
Katie wants to be able to do the simple stuff herself.

John W. Colby
Colby Consulting
www.ColbyConsulting.com
-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Dan Waters
Sent: Saturday, December 15, 2007 8:54 AM
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Subject: Re: [AccessD] OT: FrontPage Websites

This is Just In Time!  

I was going to spend the day doing some web site work, so I'll try it out in
WDE instead.

Thanks!
Dan

-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of William Hindman
Sent: Friday, December 14, 2007 4:55 PM
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Subject: Re: [AccessD] OT: FrontPage Websites

Dan

Expression Web is the official successor to Front Page ...but with the
release of VS8 WDE there is no longer any reason for anyone who writes code
to use Expression ...VS8 WDE is free, has incorporated the CSS designer from

Expression, adds more data controls, and offers so many, many other features

Expression lacks ...I still have Expression installed but haven't used it
since installing VS8.

William

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Sent: Friday, December 14, 2007 4:19 PM
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> Also,
>
> MS Expression Web is a successor to FrontPage.  If you have FP you 
> qualify for 'upgrade' pricing to Expression Web - I paid about $90.
>
> To the user it 'feels like' FrontPage, but it does support asp.net.
> Expression Web leans more to the Designer side, while Web Developer 
> Express leans more to the Developer side.  You can work on the same 
> site with both programs if that turns out to be helpful.
>
> Dan
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of William 
> Hindman
> Sent: Friday, December 14, 2007 2:15 PM
> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] OT: FrontPage Websites
>
> ...sigh ...shakes head ...Asp and Front Page are dead ...long replaced 
> by Asp.Net and Visual Studio Web Designer Express Version 8, both of 
> which are free, easier to use, and incredibly more capable.
>
> William
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Drew Wutka" <DWUTKA at marlow.com>
> To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving"
> <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
> Sent: Friday, December 14, 2007 1:00 PM
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] OT: FrontPage Websites
>
>
>> Ok, here's the first of the two classes in my SiteNav2006.dll.  There 
>> is also a module, for my DBConnect function, which just sets the 
>> ADODB.Connection argument to a new ADODB.Connection, set's it's 
>> provider to Jet 4.0, then sets the extended proprerty for the 
>> workgroup file and opens the secured database.
>>
>> This is the Node Class:
>>
>> Option Explicit
>> Public ID As Long
>> Public ParentID As Long
>> Public URL As String
>> Public Title As String
>> Public RootNode As Boolean
>> Dim MyNodes As Collection
>> Private Sub Class_Initialize()
>> Set MyNodes = New Collection
>> End Sub
>> Property Get ChildCount() As Long
>> ChildCount = MyNodes.Count
>> End Property
>> Friend Function AddChild(nd As Node)
>> MyNodes.Add nd
>> End Function
>> Property Get ChildNode(intPos As Long) As Node Set ChildNode = 
>> MyNodes(intPos) End Property Public Function NewEnum() As IUnknown 
>> Set NewEnum = MyNodes.[_NewEnum] End Function
>>
>> My next email will have the Nodes class.  The code is a little long, 
>> so I'm crossing my fingers that it will post.  In the 
>> RetrieveNavigation Function, I will put '''Customization Starts here 
>> for where this function starts mixing the FP navigation with the 
>> product database for our site, so that wouldn't have to be included 
>> in someone elses...but I'm keeping it in there to show how you can 
>> tweak the navigation to include custom dynamic pages.
>>
>> Drew
>>
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