[AccessD] OT: FrontPage Websites

Drew Wutka DWUTKA at Marlow.com
Sat Dec 15 13:15:33 CST 2007


Just as a correction, it's not asp/VBScript.  I use a combination of asp
and VB 6.0.

I have used VB.Net.  It's ok.  There is nothing I can't do in VB 6, that
VB.Net can do.  Yes, VB.Net using inheritance.... which is an undeniable
perk, however, I have developed so much stuff in VB 6, it is very rare
when inheritance would actually improve what I am doing.

So I build my database (usually Access, occasionally SQL Server), I
build the business logic in VB, and I build the interface with asp.

Drew

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of William
Hindman
Sent: Saturday, December 15, 2007 10:30 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] OT: FrontPage Websites

...the move from FP to Expression Web was effortless ...a few bots were 
lost, including the nav bot Drew likes, but they were more than made up
for 
by the asp.net d&d controls ...and there are plug-ins to restore the old

bots as well ...but once into asp.net you won't want to.

...VS8 WDE is FP/Expression Web on steroids ...with so much more
available 
for developers its like night and day.

...your sister in law could use any of them equally well ...in either 
program she would want to make sure her web developer had designed her
site 
using a DWT so that she could only edit the content areas she should be
in 
and not anything that would damage the site itself ...if she decides to
use 
the free VS8 WDE, she'll work almost always in design mode whereas any 
developer would be working the same page in source view mode.

...as Dan pointed out MS has made a slew of free video tutorials
available 
targeted specfically at beginners that walk you through a lot of How Do
I... 
tasks.

...its hard for me to visualize a reason for anyone to be using FP, 
Expression ...or Asp/VB ...any longer considering the price of VS8 WDE 
...and as far as Drew's points re overhead, I did a site in Asp/VBScript
and 
then redid it in Asp.net/VB.net and the net results were both
dramatically 
faster AND a good bit smaller, content for content ...yes, there is the
net 
framework but so what? ...the contents of that framework and the object 
inheritence that just "happens" dramatically reduce the amount of code
you 
have to write and the add-ons necessary to produce a site that is fast, 
functional, and user friendly compared to ASP Classic ...imnsho of
course :)

...my only regret is that I let the object/inhertance jargon scare me
off 
jumping into asp.net/vb.net/c#.net a long time ago ...but when MS put
the 
Express versions of VS5 out there for free, I just couldn't help myself 
...besides which I'd already ran into a wall with the limitations of 
Expression Web.

...my 2 cents, worth what it cost you ...others will certainly differ
...in 
this group, thats a given :)

William





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