[AccessD] Code Library, Sample Database, Etc.

MartyConnelly martyconnelly at shaw.ca
Tue Feb 20 17:34:41 CST 2007


Oracle and DB2 offer free similar scaled down products.

William Hindman wrote:

>Robert
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>...msde's proved impractical because of scaling limitations MS built in 
>...so you're really only talking about SQL Express which is what, months 
>old?
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>...and if your only problem with an Access be is corruption, then sorry, but 
>with the exception of cheap NICS I've not seen a corrupted mdb since A95 
>...except in client's I took over from other developers and had to rebuild 
>...and thus corruption is not, in my environment, sufficient cause to spend 
>the time and money to convert to a non-JET be ...but I'll grant you that I'm 
>getting long in the tooth and damned reluctant to learn every new db wonder 
>cure that comes along.
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>...and while I'm at it, I'll also admit that I'm developing a commercial app 
>based on a current client that will use a non-JET be because it needs to 
>scale to at least 50 users ...what that will be depends on some testing yet 
>to be accomplished but I'm not at all convinced that SQL Express isn't a 
>one-off dog & pony show for MS.
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>William Hindman
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>----- Original Message ----- 
>From: "Robert L. Stewart" <rl_stewart at highstream.net>
>To: <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
>Sent: Tuesday, February 20, 2007 5:11 PM
>Subject: Re: [AccessD] Code Library, Sample Database, Etc.
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>>William,
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>>PERSONAL OPINION FOLLOWING...
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>>With the advent of MSDE and SQL Express, Access as a BE
>>should have disappeared. Even if you use an MDE against
>>it.  I have used Access since 1.0, co-authored a book on
>>it for Access 97, and taught a Special Interest Group since
>>1.0. Yes, with an extremely well designed front end and
>>back end Access will work wonders. However, with the members
>>of this group excluded, I have yet to see a really well
>>designed combination of the two. There are simply too many
>>people that think that is they can spell "Access Programmer,"
>>they are one.
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>>ADO and DAO are irrelevant.  Pick your poison and use it.
>>Where I work now, we use both.
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>>In my special interest group, we do not use Access for a BE.
>>I have stopped teaching the use of it and only showing SQL
>>Server.
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>>Biased, you bet. Too many corrupt data files over the years
>>in Access.  Never had one in SQL Server. And I have been
>>using it since 3.21.  :-)
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>>Robert
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>>P.S.
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>>Charlotte, I had my asbestos long johns on before I wrote it.  :-)
>>Fried or flamed, no problem.
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>>At 03:35 PM 2/20/2007, you wrote:
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>>>Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2007 14:23:44 -0500
>>>From: "William Hindman" <wdhindman at dejpolsystems.com>
>>>Subject: Re: [AccessD] Code Library, Sample Database, Etc.
>>>To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving"
>>>        <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
>>>Message-ID: <001701c75524$a3de0a90$9258eb44 at 50NM721>
>>>Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="Windows-1252";
>>>        reply-type=original
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>>>Arthur
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>>>...its not a matter of agreeing or disagreeing ...if you work in an
>>>environment where SS is available and the notwork resources are available 
>>>to
>>>support it, of course you would use SS in most applications.
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>>>...but if you are a consultant working with many small businesses where 
>>>you
>>>are it, then a well designed dao mdb fe/be can be highly stable and work
>>>every bit as well as an adp/SS combo ...in point of fact with up to at 
>>>least
>>>15 users a well designed dao based mdb will normally out perform an ado
>>>based fe.
>>>
>>>...and with A'07 it appears that MS itself is moving back to the dao model
>>>...what irks me is people declaring that their favorite model is best for
>>>everyone ...or casting unwarranted aspersions on Access be's and dao when
>>>they really don't work in an environment where that model functions best.
>>>
>>>William Hindman
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Marty Connelly
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