[AccessD] VBA abandoned in Office 2008 for Mac

Perry L Harold pharold at proftesting.com
Wed May 30 15:56:05 CDT 2007


Why don't you just say what you feel?  Just added 4 laptops from Dell
and had all set up with XP & O2003.

Perry Harold 

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Arthur Fuller
Sent: Wednesday, May 30, 2007 4:16 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] VBA abandoned in Office 2008 for Mac

I wonder how many users are revolting against (revolted by) the Ribbon
thing? What I can say is that it took about 15 minutes for me to find
the most basic commands in Word. I HATE this ribbon s**t. At the very
least, Office ought to recognize the keystrokes we seasoned folk have
learned eons ago. For example, Alt+T = Table. Why do I have to fart
around and look for these commands, when MS itself has schooled me into
thinking this or that keystroke is the way to get there?

Apparently, newbies like this ribbon s**t. Great. In a few more months
I'll be eligible for retirement and then Kiss This, Bill! I'd rather
watch Nadal try to come up with something to beat Fedderer. Earth to MS:
Ribbons SUCK!
Six months and I'm gone except for hobbyist play. The person who thought
of ribbons will surely go down the same flush as the person who thought
of the stupid little doggie helper. Sheesh. I feel sorry for that
person. Probably just did what he was told, ended up the most despised
programmer in the history of Windows. However, perhaps the inventor of
ribbons will take his place as the most despised programmer in the
history of Windows.

I could be quite wrong about this. I have heard more than one newbie say
how cool this ribbon thing is. Commands that have been available since
God Knows When are now right there on the ribbon. Yeah, great. Meanwhile
it took me half an hour to deduce how to insert a row into a table. Why
in the name of God is this command on the Format menu? Which particular
Redmond Einstein thought to place this command there? What does "Insert
a row into a table"
have even remotely to do with "Format"?

There are clearly lots of brain-dead people in the state of Washington.
The one who thought to place that command there, the boss who authorized
it, and so on up the chain of command. Perhaps there has been an influx
of cocaine or some other mind-altering drug into Redmond.

Let us be fair. If anything, I try to be democratic. Let's start with
the traditional menu plus all the ribbon stuff. Let's allow the use to
suppress either of these. Let's respect, even in the event that you
suppress the traditional menu, all those keystrokes (Ctrl+N= New File,
Ctrl+S = Save,
etc.)

So let's call spades spades: Office 2007 sucks. Vista sucks. I have the
former installed but shall remove it this weekend. Fortunately I had the
foresight to save nothing on O2K7 format, so when I remove it I will
still be able to read all the files.

I have yet to hear one positive experience from a Vista user. Apparently
it's like a cyber-BDSM-place. Lots of handcuffs and zero freedom.
Unceremoniously quits should you try anything like backing up a DVD
movie.

As for me, I have had quite enough of this s**t from Redmond. I'm out of
the MS loop. Open Office and Google Apps do most everything I need. Open
Office's Base is pretty close to Access, though not quite there. Ubuntu
is way nicer than Vista, and it runs on some of my admittedly lame
hardware.

Earth to Redmond: you are running out of reasons for us to stick around.

A.


On 5/30/07, jwcolby <jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com> wrote:
>
> Boy will there be a BUNCH of companies not upgrading beyond that!
How
> many
> apps are out there coded in vba?
>
>
> John W. Colby
> Colby Consulting
> www.ColbyConsulting.com
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Ken Ismert
> Sent: Wednesday, May 30, 2007 3:16 PM
> To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
> Subject: [AccessD] VBA abandoned in Office 2008 for Mac
>
>
> The first shoe has dropped: Microsoft has abandoned VBA in its latest 
> Office suite for the Macintosh:
>
> Mac Users Face Hurdles with New Office Versions
> http://www.eweek.com/article2/0,1895,2138349,00.asp?kc=EWKNLINF053007S
> TR4
>
> Although there is a converter tool for older Office documents, with 
> promises for VBA support in the future, Mac developers are encouraged 
> to use Applescript instead.
>
> Access developers have to at least consider the possibility that 
> Office
> 2007 will be the last version of Office that will natively run VBA.
>
> -Ken
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