William Hindman
wdhindman at dejpolsystems.com
Fri Apr 25 09:04:40 CDT 2008
...there are just so many more resources written in c# that I finally gave in to the dark side ...the pros and cons of each offset imnsho ...the availability of code samples in C# is overwhelming compared to vb.net, at least in the asp.net web development area :) ...as for learning, there really isn't that big a curve ...try a couple of the translation sites moving your vb to C# and you'll soon catch the differences. ...and note that vb.net is not vba by any stretch of the imagination ...the learning curve from vba to vb.net is, ime, just as sharp as it is from vba to c# ...the syntax looks deceivingly similar to vba but trust me, you'll grind a lot of teeth learning it just ain't so. ...I'm not a purist by any means ...I'll use whichever works best at the moment ...its just that I now start out with C# as my page default rather than vb.net. William -------------------------------------------------- From: "Hewson, Jim " <JHewson at nciinc.com> Sent: Friday, April 25, 2008 9:17 AM To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving" <accessd at databaseadvisors.com> Subject: Re: [AccessD] FW: Access 2007 (and other rants) > William, > Why did you move to C# instead of staying with VB? > I've attempted to "read" C# code and it really doesn't make sense to me. > It could be that I'm not accustomed to it. > > Jim > jhewson at nciinc.com > > > -----Original Message----- > From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of William Hindman > Sent: Friday, April 25, 2008 8:08 AM > To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving > Subject: Re: [AccessD] FW: Access 2007 (and other rants) > > ...I tried both Iron Speed and CCS as code generators and wound up > throwing > them out in favor of coding it myself ...just too many compromises and > restrictions for me ...I wasn't willing to settle for what they put out > and > thus spent as much or more time customizing their code than if I'd just > done > it myself ...the real productivity tool for me was finding some really > good > net resources and then building my own code library ...once that was in > place, I could really start using the huge variety of tools in the .net > framework where a simple one liner can bring a lot more results than you > could ever dream of in Access. > > ...I will make one comment though ...I knew AccessD was invaluable to me > in > learning and working with Access ...but it wasn't until I got into asp.net > and c# and found no similar resource community that I realized just how > valuable it truly was and remains even now ...don't know why that is but > I've looked all over the net for more than a year now and just not found > the > equivalent ...not even close. > > William > > -------------------------------------------------- > From: "Shamil Salakhetdinov" <shamil at smsconsulting.spb.ru> > Sent: Friday, April 25, 2008 3:30 AM > To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'" > <accessd at databaseadvisors.com> > Subject: Re: [AccessD] FW: Access 2007 (and other rants) > >> Hi Doug, >> >> It's nearly as RAD as using MS Access - sometimes (much) quicker >> sometimes >> slower, but if one starts from zero level coming from VBA world then >> rather >> long learning curve should be taken into account... >> >> Using native ASP.NET controls in web apps development didn't create any >> problems here with users working in IE7 (and IE6), FF, even Safari... >> >> To make simple ASP.NET application with just several (or even many) data >> entry/edit/retrieval forms is relatively easy task but making the same >> application ready to go scaled to enterprise level is a very different >> task, >> which will take much more efforts, still with good experience in ASP.NET >> even enterprise level development could be as RAD as usual MS Access >> development... >> >> Consider using one or another third-party (or hand-made) code generators >> and >> ORM frameworks: the LINQ for SQL, which MS targets to this ORM role >> haven't >> yet got proven to be the best ORM framework/tool (but I must say I could >> have missed latest news/articles/books on this 'LINQ for SQL as ORM >> framework' subject)... >> >> -- >> Shamil >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com >> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Doug Steele >> Sent: Friday, April 25, 2008 6:02 AM >> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving >> Subject: Re: [AccessD] FW: Access 2007 (and other rants) >> >> Does anyone have a rough idea of how long it takes to code a Web app >> versus >> a comparable Access database? >> >> Doug Steele >> >> On Thu, Apr 24, 2008 at 4:54 AM, Susan Harkins <ssharkins at gmail.com> >> wrote: >> >>> > ...otoh, I can't say enough good things about Visual Studio 8 and .net >>> > ...MS >>> > hit a home run there imnsho ...I'm moving clients into browser based >> apps >>> > as >>> > fast as I can write the code. >>> >>> =========The link I posted yesterday is about that very subject, only >>> specific to Access database applications. >>> >>> Susan H. >>> >>> -- >>> AccessD mailing list >>> AccessD at databaseadvisors.com >>> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd >>> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com >>> >> -- >> AccessD mailing list >> AccessD at databaseadvisors.com >> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd >> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com >> >> -- >> AccessD mailing list >> AccessD at databaseadvisors.com >> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd >> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com >> > > > -- > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > ################################################################################ > > This email transmission contains information from NCI Information Systems, > Inc. > that may be considered privileged or confidential and is intended solely > for the > named recipient. 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