From adtp at airtelbroadband.in Fri Feb 1 01:19:23 2008 From: adtp at airtelbroadband.in (A.D.Tejpal) Date: Fri, 1 Feb 2008 12:49:23 +0530 Subject: [AccessD] Editing default field content References: <7008854.292141201792576448.JavaMail.www@wwinf3001><01DBAB52E30A 9A4AB3D94EF8029EDBE8021BB216@EXCNYSM0A1AI.nysemail.nyenet> <47A1D012.167F.006B.0@niagaracounty.com> Message-ID: <04b901c864a2$f4e83f80$0557a27a@personald6374f> John, My sample db named InputMask_Dynamic might be of interest to you. It is available at Rogers Access Library (other developers library). Link - http://www.rogersaccesslibrary.com/OtherLibraries.asp#Tejpal,A.D. On the main switchboard, third command button captioned "Text Fields - (Prefixed With Any Desired Text String)" should be pertinent to your needs. Clicking this button opens the form named F_ItemMaster. On this form, enter the desired prefix (say "AB00" as mentioned in your post) in the unbound text box named TxtPreFix, located just above the subform control.. With this, you will find that the bound text box named ItemCode on the subform carries the desired prefix built into its input mask. At any stage, for changing the prefix, simply edit the contents of unbound text box on the main form. You could adapt the underlying approach suitably, for your specific needs. Best wishes, A.D.Tejpal ------------ ----- Original Message ----- From: John Clark To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving Sent: Friday, February 01, 2008 00:11 Subject: [AccessD] Editing default field content I think this is a simple question, and I could swear I've done it before, but I am totally blank and can't get it myself...in my defense, I have been home w/my sick daughter all week, and I'm coming in today, to a pile of backed up voice mails and Email. I have a field that will...almost always...be in the format of AB00### When I enter the field, I want to avoid editing the whole field and be able to just pick up at the tail end of the default text of "AB00" I also want to be able to alter this text, in the event of a uncommon, but not totally rare, occurrence of a different structure. I seem to remember putting in some code for the OnGotFocus event, involving the length of the existing text, but I don't remember what I did, and I can't find it...it is probably in a long-since-replaced program, of old days. If it matters, I am using A2K3, but I originally did this...I do know...in A97. Thanks in advance. I haven't asked a question out here is a really long time, and now I am lowered to asking something simple...or should be as simple...as this ;o) John W. Clark Computer Programmer Niagara County Central Data Processing From Gustav at cactus.dk Fri Feb 1 02:03:46 2008 From: Gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock) Date: Fri, 01 Feb 2008 09:03:46 +0100 Subject: [AccessD] Access 2007 Startup form Message-ID: Hi Arthur Relax, it took me a while too to locate that button. The reason is that the stupid Office button with its toy-look for an experienced Windows user gives the impression that it presents some kind of short-cut intended for the novice user - which may be true - while it really hides a miniature button which is mandatory for experienced users and developers. Now, isn't a basic rule existing regarding user interface design about not making the user feel stupid? /gustav >>> fuller.artful at gmail.com 01-02-2008 03:49:20 >>> Where in Access 2007 is the property sheet that lets me specify the startup form, etc.? I've searched for a while now and cannot locate it. TIA, Arthur From fuller.artful at gmail.com Fri Feb 1 06:12:37 2008 From: fuller.artful at gmail.com (Arthur Fuller) Date: Fri, 1 Feb 2008 07:12:37 -0500 Subject: [AccessD] Access 2007 Startup form In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <29f585dd0802010412k755ec4adwce3202dc5855180f@mail.gmail.com> Thanks! And yes, you're quite right about the UI rule. On Fri, Feb 1, 2008 at 3:03 AM, Gustav Brock wrote: > Hi Arthur > > Relax, it took me a while too to locate that button. > > The reason is that the stupid Office button with its toy-look for an > experienced Windows user gives the impression that it presents some kind of > short-cut intended for the novice user - which may be true - while it really > hides a miniature button which is mandatory for experienced users and > developers. > > Now, isn't a basic rule existing regarding user interface design about not > making the user feel stupid? > > /gustav From markamatte at hotmail.com Fri Feb 1 09:07:06 2008 From: markamatte at hotmail.com (Mark A Matte) Date: Fri, 1 Feb 2008 15:07:06 +0000 Subject: [AccessD] App using Runtime? In-Reply-To: <47A24D1C.1000409@servicexp.com> References: <29f585dd0801311256q6905d248le5a1de9a880d7794@mail.gmail.com> <47A24D1C.1000409@servicexp.com> Message-ID: Hello All, An old app showed up...it is not access...but uses an mdb(A97) as a back end. When the app is running...there is and LDB present? Access is NOT on the machine. Does this mean that the runtime is being used?...if so, how do I find it? The problem is the company is migrating to XP...and the users used to use A97 to go in and compact this mdb...and converting the mdb to XP seems to be a problem. If the runtime were on the machine...I could drop an A97 mde on that machine that compacts the mdb... Thanks, Mark A. Matte _________________________________________________________________ Need to know the score, the latest news, or you need your Hotmail?-get your "fix". http://www.msnmobilefix.com/Default.aspx From John.Clark at niagaracounty.com Fri Feb 1 09:20:59 2008 From: John.Clark at niagaracounty.com (John Clark) Date: Fri, 01 Feb 2008 10:20:59 -0500 Subject: [AccessD] Editing default field content In-Reply-To: <00d701c8643c$a7ca5690$4b3a8343@SusanOne> References: <7008854.292141201792576448.JavaMail.www@wwinf3001><01DBAB52E30A9A4AB3D94EF8029EDBE8021BB216@EXCNYSM0A1AI.nysemail.nyenet> <47A1D012.167F.006B.0@niagaracounty.com> <00d701c8643c$a7ca5690$4b3a8343@SusanOne> Message-ID: <47A2F289.167F.006B.0@niagaracounty.com> I don't think I asked the question right. I've got it so that the "AB00" does show up in the field, but when you enter the field, the whole thing is highlighted. So, if you start typing, you are typing over the default "AB00", or you must press F2, or click at the end, to add to this, which you want to do, 90% of the time. So, what I actually need to figure out is how to place the cursor, at the end of the default string, upon getting focus on the field. John W. Clark Computer Programmer Niagara County Central Data Processing >>> "Susan Harkins" 1/31/2008 2:08 PM >>> > When I enter the field, I want to avoid editing the whole field and be > able to just pick up at the tail end of the default text of "AB00" ======You can add AB00 to the format. Susan H. -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From jimdettman at verizon.net Fri Feb 1 09:25:41 2008 From: jimdettman at verizon.net (Jim Dettman) Date: Fri, 01 Feb 2008 10:25:41 -0500 Subject: [AccessD] App using Runtime? In-Reply-To: References: <29f585dd0801311256q6905d248le5a1de9a880d7794@mail.gmail.com> <47A24D1C.1000409@servicexp.com> Message-ID: <005b01c864e6$b5519ee0$8abea8c0@XPS> Mark, <> Creation and the maintaining of the .LDB file is a function of JET, not Access. Access does not need to be installed (full or runtime) to use a JET backend with an app (say written in VB or C++). Jim. -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Mark A Matte Sent: Friday, February 01, 2008 10:07 AM To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving Subject: [AccessD] App using Runtime? Hello All, An old app showed up...it is not access...but uses an mdb(A97) as a back end. When the app is running...there is and LDB present? Access is NOT on the machine. Does this mean that the runtime is being used?...if so, how do I find it? The problem is the company is migrating to XP...and the users used to use A97 to go in and compact this mdb...and converting the mdb to XP seems to be a problem. If the runtime were on the machine...I could drop an A97 mde on that machine that compacts the mdb... Thanks, Mark A. Matte _________________________________________________________________ Need to know the score, the latest news, or you need your HotmailR-get your "fix". http://www.msnmobilefix.com/Default.aspx -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From paul.hartland at fsmail.net Fri Feb 1 09:28:42 2008 From: paul.hartland at fsmail.net (paul.hartland at fsmail.net) Date: Fri, 1 Feb 2008 16:28:42 +0100 (CET) Subject: [AccessD] Editing default field content Message-ID: <26789648.366161201879722402.JavaMail.www@wwinf3007> On the GotFocus event of the control have something like the following: me.yourfieldname.SelStart = Len(Trim(me.yourfieldname)) Paul Hartland Message Received: Feb 01 2008, 03:23 PM From: "John Clark" To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving" Cc: Subject: Re: [AccessD] Editing default field content I don't think I asked the question right. I've got it so that the "AB00" does show up in the field, but when you enter the field, the whole thing is highlighted. So, if you start typing, you are typing over the default "AB00", or you must press F2, or click at the end, to add to this, which you want to do, 90% of the time. So, what I actually need to figure out is how to place the cursor, at the end of the default string, upon getting focus on the field. John W. Clark Computer Programmer Niagara County Central Data Processing >>> "Susan Harkins" 1/31/2008 2:08 PM >>> > When I enter the field, I want to avoid editing the whole field and be > able to just pick up at the tail end of the default text of "AB00" ======You can add AB00 to the format. Susan H. -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com Paul Hartland paul.hartland at fsmail.net 07730 523179 From JHewson at karta.com Fri Feb 1 09:32:29 2008 From: JHewson at karta.com (Jim Hewson) Date: Fri, 1 Feb 2008 09:32:29 -0600 Subject: [AccessD] Editing default field content References: <7008854.292141201792576448.JavaMail.www@wwinf3001><01DBAB52E30A9A4AB3D94EF8029EDBE8021BB216@EXCNYSM0A1AI.nysemail.nyenet><47A1D012.167F.006B.0@niagaracounty.com><00d701c8643c$a7ca5690$4b3a8343@SusanOne> <47A2F289.167F.006B.0@niagaracounty.com> Message-ID: <1C877227AE9F2A4BB20BABE94325D15B0B3913@exchange.Karta.com> If you want to do this for the entire database, you can go to Tools -> Options -> Keyboard tab -- look for Behavior entering Field. Tick off: Go to end of field You might be able to do this through code on the On Enter event. Jim jhewson at karta.com -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of John Clark Sent: Friday, February 01, 2008 9:21 AM To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving Subject: Re: [AccessD] Editing default field content I don't think I asked the question right. I've got it so that the "AB00" does show up in the field, but when you enter the field, the whole thing is highlighted. So, if you start typing, you are typing over the default "AB00", or you must press F2, or click at the end, to add to this, which you want to do, 90% of the time. So, what I actually need to figure out is how to place the cursor, at the end of the default string, upon getting focus on the field. John W. Clark Computer Programmer Niagara County Central Data Processing >>> "Susan Harkins" 1/31/2008 2:08 PM >>> > When I enter the field, I want to avoid editing the whole field and be > able to just pick up at the tail end of the default text of "AB00" ======You can add AB00 to the format. Susan H. -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From markamatte at hotmail.com Fri Feb 1 09:35:31 2008 From: markamatte at hotmail.com (Mark A Matte) Date: Fri, 1 Feb 2008 15:35:31 +0000 Subject: [AccessD] App using Runtime? In-Reply-To: <005b01c864e6$b5519ee0$8abea8c0@XPS> References: <29f585dd0801311256q6905d248le5a1de9a880d7794@mail.gmail.com> <47A24D1C.1000409@servicexp.com> <005b01c864e6$b5519ee0$8abea8c0@XPS> Message-ID: Anythoughts on Compacting without loading access? Thanks, Mark > Date: Fri, 1 Feb 2008 10:25:41 -0500 > From: jimdettman at verizon.net > To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com > Subject: Re: [AccessD] App using Runtime? > > Mark, > > < it?>> > > Creation and the maintaining of the .LDB file is a function of JET, not > Access. Access does not need to be installed (full or runtime) to use a JET > backend with an app (say written in VB or C++). > > Jim. > > -----Original Message----- > From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Mark A Matte > Sent: Friday, February 01, 2008 10:07 AM > To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving > Subject: [AccessD] App using Runtime? > > > Hello All, > > An old app showed up...it is not access...but uses an mdb(A97) as a back > end. When the app is running...there is and LDB present? Access is NOT on > the machine. > > Does this mean that the runtime is being used?...if so, how do I find it? > > The problem is the company is migrating to XP...and the users used to use > A97 to go in and compact this mdb...and converting the mdb to XP seems to be > a problem. If the runtime were on the machine...I could drop an A97 mde on > that machine that compacts the mdb... > > Thanks, > > Mark A. Matte > _________________________________________________________________ > Need to know the score, the latest news, or you need your HotmailR-get your > "fix". > http://www.msnmobilefix.com/Default.aspx > -- > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > -- > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com _________________________________________________________________ Need to know the score, the latest news, or you need your Hotmail?-get your "fix". http://www.msnmobilefix.com/Default.aspx From robin at musicalmemories.co.uk Fri Feb 1 09:40:48 2008 From: robin at musicalmemories.co.uk (Robin ) Date: Fri, 1 Feb 2008 15:40:48 -0000 Subject: [AccessD] App using Runtime? Message-ID: <560E2B80EC8F624B93A87B943B7A9CD5530C06@rgiserv.rg.local> Hi Mark, Have you looked at JetComp? http://support.microsoft.com/kb/295334 Rgds Robin Lawrence -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Mark A Matte Sent: 01 February 2008 15:36 To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving Subject: Re: [AccessD] App using Runtime? Anythoughts on Compacting without loading access? Thanks, Mark > Date: Fri, 1 Feb 2008 10:25:41 -0500 > From: jimdettman at verizon.net > To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com > Subject: Re: [AccessD] App using Runtime? > > Mark, > > < it?>> > > Creation and the maintaining of the .LDB file is a function of JET, > not Access. Access does not need to be installed (full or runtime) to > use a JET backend with an app (say written in VB or C++). > > Jim. > > -----Original Message----- > From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Mark A > Matte > Sent: Friday, February 01, 2008 10:07 AM > To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving > Subject: [AccessD] App using Runtime? > > > Hello All, > > An old app showed up...it is not access...but uses an mdb(A97) as a > back end. When the app is running...there is and LDB present? Access > is NOT on the machine. > > Does this mean that the runtime is being used?...if so, how do I find > it? > > The problem is the company is migrating to XP...and the users used to > use A97 to go in and compact this mdb...and converting the mdb to XP > seems to be a problem. If the runtime were on the machine...I could > drop an A97 mde on that machine that compacts the mdb... > > Thanks, > > Mark A. Matte > _________________________________________________________________ > Need to know the score, the latest news, or you need your HotmailR-get > your "fix". http://www.msnmobilefix.com/Default.aspx > -- > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > -- > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com _________________________________________________________________ Need to know the score, the latest news, or you need your Hotmail(r)-get your "fix". http://www.msnmobilefix.com/Default.aspx -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From jimdettman at verizon.net Fri Feb 1 09:57:26 2008 From: jimdettman at verizon.net (Jim Dettman) Date: Fri, 01 Feb 2008 10:57:26 -0500 Subject: [AccessD] App using Runtime? In-Reply-To: References: <29f585dd0801311256q6905d248le5a1de9a880d7794@mail.gmail.com> <47A24D1C.1000409@servicexp.com> <005b01c864e6$b5519ee0$8abea8c0@XPS> Message-ID: <007e01c864eb$2534d250$8abea8c0@XPS> Mark, Use the standalone JET compact utility: JETCOMP.EXE http://support.microsoft.com/kb/295334 Jim. -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Mark A Matte Sent: Friday, February 01, 2008 10:36 AM To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving Subject: Re: [AccessD] App using Runtime? Anythoughts on Compacting without loading access? Thanks, Mark > Date: Fri, 1 Feb 2008 10:25:41 -0500 > From: jimdettman at verizon.net > To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com > Subject: Re: [AccessD] App using Runtime? > > Mark, > > < it?>> > > Creation and the maintaining of the .LDB file is a function of JET, not > Access. Access does not need to be installed (full or runtime) to use a JET > backend with an app (say written in VB or C++). > > Jim. > > -----Original Message----- > From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Mark A Matte > Sent: Friday, February 01, 2008 10:07 AM > To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving > Subject: [AccessD] App using Runtime? > > > Hello All, > > An old app showed up...it is not access...but uses an mdb(A97) as a back > end. When the app is running...there is and LDB present? Access is NOT on > the machine. > > Does this mean that the runtime is being used?...if so, how do I find it? > > The problem is the company is migrating to XP...and the users used to use > A97 to go in and compact this mdb...and converting the mdb to XP seems to be > a problem. If the runtime were on the machine...I could drop an A97 mde on > that machine that compacts the mdb... > > Thanks, > > Mark A. Matte > _________________________________________________________________ > Need to know the score, the latest news, or you need your HotmailR-get your > "fix". > http://www.msnmobilefix.com/Default.aspx > -- > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > -- > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com _________________________________________________________________ Need to know the score, the latest news, or you need your HotmailR-get your "fix". http://www.msnmobilefix.com/Default.aspx -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From John.Clark at niagaracounty.com Fri Feb 1 09:57:44 2008 From: John.Clark at niagaracounty.com (John Clark) Date: Fri, 01 Feb 2008 10:57:44 -0500 Subject: [AccessD] Editing default field content In-Reply-To: <26789648.366161201879722402.JavaMail.www@wwinf3007> References: <26789648.366161201879722402.JavaMail.www@wwinf3007> Message-ID: <47A2FB27.167F.006B.0@niagaracounty.com> Yes...I think this is how I did it before. If not exact, then pretty dang close. Thank you! John W. Clark Computer Programmer Niagara County Central Data Processing >>> 2/1/2008 10:28 AM >>> On the GotFocus event of the control have something like the following: me.yourfieldname.SelStart = Len(Trim(me.yourfieldname)) Paul Hartland Message Received: Feb 01 2008, 03:23 PM From: "John Clark" To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving" Cc: Subject: Re: [AccessD] Editing default field content I don't think I asked the question right. I've got it so that the "AB00" does show up in the field, but when you enter the field, the whole thing is highlighted. So, if you start typing, you are typing over the default "AB00", or you must press F2, or click at the end, to add to this, which you want to do, 90% of the time. So, what I actually need to figure out is how to place the cursor, at the end of the default string, upon getting focus on the field. John W. Clark Computer Programmer Niagara County Central Data Processing >>> "Susan Harkins" 1/31/2008 2:08 PM >>> > When I enter the field, I want to avoid editing the whole field and be > able to just pick up at the tail end of the default text of "AB00" ======You can add AB00 to the format. Susan H. -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com Paul Hartland paul.hartland at fsmail.net 07730 523179 -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From John.Clark at niagaracounty.com Fri Feb 1 09:59:15 2008 From: John.Clark at niagaracounty.com (John Clark) Date: Fri, 01 Feb 2008 10:59:15 -0500 Subject: [AccessD] Editing default field content In-Reply-To: <1C877227AE9F2A4BB20BABE94325D15B0B3913@exchange.Karta.com> References: <7008854.292141201792576448.JavaMail.www@wwinf3001><01DBAB52E30A9A4AB3D94EF8029EDBE8021BB216@EXCNYSM0A1AI.nysemail.nyenet><47A1D012.167F.006B.0@niagaracounty.com><00d701c8643c$a7ca5690$4b3a8343@SusanOne> <47A2F289.167F.006B.0@niagaracounty.com> <1C877227AE9F2A4BB20BABE94325D15B0B3913@exchange.Karta.com> Message-ID: <47A2FB81.167F.006B.0@niagaracounty.com> OK, now I just feel plain 'ol dumb as a rock. I definitely over thought this one. I forgot all about this, and I did know it was out there too. Well, I know how to do it both ways now, I guess. Thanks! John W. Clark Computer Programmer Niagara County Central Data Processing >>> "Jim Hewson" 2/1/2008 10:32 AM >>> If you want to do this for the entire database, you can go to Tools -> Options -> Keyboard tab -- look for Behavior entering Field. Tick off: Go to end of field You might be able to do this through code on the On Enter event. Jim jhewson at karta.com -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of John Clark Sent: Friday, February 01, 2008 9:21 AM To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving Subject: Re: [AccessD] Editing default field content I don't think I asked the question right. I've got it so that the "AB00" does show up in the field, but when you enter the field, the whole thing is highlighted. So, if you start typing, you are typing over the default "AB00", or you must press F2, or click at the end, to add to this, which you want to do, 90% of the time. So, what I actually need to figure out is how to place the cursor, at the end of the default string, upon getting focus on the field. John W. Clark Computer Programmer Niagara County Central Data Processing >>> "Susan Harkins" 1/31/2008 2:08 PM >>> > When I enter the field, I want to avoid editing the whole field and be > able to just pick up at the tail end of the default text of "AB00" ======You can add AB00 to the format. Susan H. -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From markamatte at hotmail.com Fri Feb 1 10:33:25 2008 From: markamatte at hotmail.com (Mark A Matte) Date: Fri, 1 Feb 2008 16:33:25 +0000 Subject: [AccessD] App using Runtime? In-Reply-To: <007e01c864eb$2534d250$8abea8c0@XPS> References: <29f585dd0801311256q6905d248le5a1de9a880d7794@mail.gmail.com> <47A24D1C.1000409@servicexp.com> <005b01c864e6$b5519ee0$8abea8c0@XPS> <007e01c864eb$2534d250$8abea8c0@XPS> Message-ID: Jim And Robin, Thanks...I forget that jetcomp repairs AND compacts. Thanks, Mark A. Matte > Date: Fri, 1 Feb 2008 10:57:26 -0500 > From: jimdettman at verizon.net > To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com > Subject: Re: [AccessD] App using Runtime? > > Mark, > > Use the standalone JET compact utility: JETCOMP.EXE > > http://support.microsoft.com/kb/295334 > > Jim. > > -----Original Message----- > From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Mark A Matte > Sent: Friday, February 01, 2008 10:36 AM > To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving > Subject: Re: [AccessD] App using Runtime? > > > Anythoughts on Compacting without loading access? > > Thanks, > > Mark > > >> Date: Fri, 1 Feb 2008 10:25:41 -0500 >> From: jimdettman at verizon.net >> To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com >> Subject: Re: [AccessD] App using Runtime? >> >> Mark, >> >> < it?>> >> >> Creation and the maintaining of the .LDB file is a function of JET, not >> Access. Access does not need to be installed (full or runtime) to use a > JET >> backend with an app (say written in VB or C++). >> >> Jim. >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com >> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Mark A Matte >> Sent: Friday, February 01, 2008 10:07 AM >> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving >> Subject: [AccessD] App using Runtime? >> >> >> Hello All, >> >> An old app showed up...it is not access...but uses an mdb(A97) as a back >> end. When the app is running...there is and LDB present? Access is NOT on >> the machine. >> >> Does this mean that the runtime is being used?...if so, how do I find it? >> >> The problem is the company is migrating to XP...and the users used to use >> A97 to go in and compact this mdb...and converting the mdb to XP seems to > be >> a problem. If the runtime were on the machine...I could drop an A97 mde on >> that machine that compacts the mdb... >> >> Thanks, >> >> Mark A. Matte >> _________________________________________________________________ >> Need to know the score, the latest news, or you need your HotmailR-get > your >> "fix". >> http://www.msnmobilefix.com/Default.aspx >> -- >> AccessD mailing list >> AccessD at databaseadvisors.com >> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd >> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com >> >> -- >> AccessD mailing list >> AccessD at databaseadvisors.com >> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd >> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > _________________________________________________________________ > Need to know the score, the latest news, or you need your HotmailR-get your > "fix". > http://www.msnmobilefix.com/Default.aspx > -- > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > -- > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com _________________________________________________________________ Helping your favorite cause is as easy as instant messaging.?You IM, we give. http://im.live.com/Messenger/IM/Home/?source=text_hotmail_join From rockysmolin at bchacc.com Fri Feb 1 10:49:53 2008 From: rockysmolin at bchacc.com (Rocky Smolin at Beach Access Software) Date: Fri, 1 Feb 2008 08:49:53 -0800 Subject: [AccessD] SQL vs Access Message-ID: <001401c864f2$7afc56c0$0301a8c0@HAL9005> Dear List: I am looking at doing a job which is ideal for an Access back end (IMO) but IT would prefer a SQL back end for the reasons below. I expressed the opinion that SQL would be overkill. But they are concerned about stability and backup. How do I respond to this? Does he have a valid point? The database will have a relatively small amount of data and 4 initially and eventually up to 10 users. Light entry and update. ********************************************************** I think his response about it being overkill is from the perspective that it is a small application which normally wouldn't warrant a MS SQL license and overhead. Because we already have several servers, we would not require any additional licenses. The real reason we would like the MS SQL backend is for stability and backup purposes. We cannot backup an Access database the same way we can MS SQL because it is simply a flat file and can sometimes not properly backup if the file is currently in use (which will be the majority of the time). Additionally, in the past we have had problems with corrupt MS Access databases when multiple people are accessing it simultaneously. I think it would be valuable to have him quote the project if it were done only in MS Access and the side-by-side comparison of the same project with the MS SQL backend. Please let me know if you need further assistance in talking to Rocky about this. ****************************************** MTIA Rocky' From Gustav at cactus.dk Fri Feb 1 10:58:35 2008 From: Gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock) Date: Fri, 01 Feb 2008 17:58:35 +0100 Subject: [AccessD] SQL vs Access Message-ID: Hi Rocky As he has several running servers and a proven backup scheme, he has a valid point. /gustav >>> rockysmolin at bchacc.com 01-02-2008 17:49:53 >>> Dear List: I am looking at doing a job which is ideal for an Access back end (IMO) but IT would prefer a SQL back end for the reasons below. I expressed the opinion that SQL would be overkill. But they are concerned about stability and backup. How do I respond to this? Does he have a valid point? The database will have a relatively small amount of data and 4 initially and eventually up to 10 users. Light entry and update. ********************************************************** I think his response about it being overkill is from the perspective that it is a small application which normally wouldn't warrant a MS SQL license and overhead. Because we already have several servers, we would not require any additional licenses. The real reason we would like the MS SQL backend is for stability and backup purposes. We cannot backup an Access database the same way we can MS SQL because it is simply a flat file and can sometimes not properly backup if the file is currently in use (which will be the majority of the time). Additionally, in the past we have had problems with corrupt MS Access databases when multiple people are accessing it simultaneously. I think it would be valuable to have him quote the project if it were done only in MS Access and the side-by-side comparison of the same project with the MS SQL backend. Please let me know if you need further assistance in talking to Rocky about this. ****************************************** MTIA Rocky' From dwaters at usinternet.com Fri Feb 1 11:01:32 2008 From: dwaters at usinternet.com (Dan Waters) Date: Fri, 1 Feb 2008 11:01:32 -0600 Subject: [AccessD] SQL vs Access In-Reply-To: <001401c864f2$7afc56c0$0301a8c0@HAL9005> References: <001401c864f2$7afc56c0$0301a8c0@HAL9005> Message-ID: <003b01c864f4$18770430$0300a8c0@danwaters> SQL Express 2005 is a free version of SQL Server, and could easily replace an Access BE. To make things easy with a lightly used database, you can create table links in your FE to the tables in SQL, just like you create table links to the tables in an Access BE. In my own experience, Access problems are caused by me or something I did wrong 99% of the time. I use Access 2003. BOL! Dan -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Rocky Smolin at Beach Access Software Sent: Friday, February 01, 2008 10:50 AM To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' Subject: [AccessD] SQL vs Access Dear List: I am looking at doing a job which is ideal for an Access back end (IMO) but IT would prefer a SQL back end for the reasons below. I expressed the opinion that SQL would be overkill. But they are concerned about stability and backup. How do I respond to this? Does he have a valid point? The database will have a relatively small amount of data and 4 initially and eventually up to 10 users. Light entry and update. ********************************************************** I think his response about it being overkill is from the perspective that it is a small application which normally wouldn't warrant a MS SQL license and overhead. Because we already have several servers, we would not require any additional licenses. The real reason we would like the MS SQL backend is for stability and backup purposes. We cannot backup an Access database the same way we can MS SQL because it is simply a flat file and can sometimes not properly backup if the file is currently in use (which will be the majority of the time). Additionally, in the past we have had problems with corrupt MS Access databases when multiple people are accessing it simultaneously. I think it would be valuable to have him quote the project if it were done only in MS Access and the side-by-side comparison of the same project with the MS SQL backend. Please let me know if you need further assistance in talking to Rocky about this. ****************************************** MTIA Rocky' -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From ssharkins at gmail.com Fri Feb 1 11:03:44 2008 From: ssharkins at gmail.com (Susan Harkins) Date: Fri, 1 Feb 2008 12:03:44 -0500 Subject: [AccessD] SQL vs Access References: Message-ID: <029701c864f4$6a07c0f0$4b3a8343@SusanOne> You might find SQL Server Express easier to work with than Access -- they might be willing to make that compromise with you. Susan H. > Hi Rocky > > As he has several running servers and a proven backup scheme, he has a > valid point. From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com Fri Feb 1 11:06:31 2008 From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (jwcolby) Date: Fri, 1 Feb 2008 12:06:31 -0500 Subject: [AccessD] SQL vs Access In-Reply-To: <001401c864f2$7afc56c0$0301a8c0@HAL9005> References: <001401c864f2$7afc56c0$0301a8c0@HAL9005> Message-ID: <004001c864f4$cb1c3380$0401a8c0@M90> I guess the first question would be why you care? SQL Server is just a data store like any other. If they can assist you in getting the dbf and log file working on your system at home, and seamlessly moving to the final resting place then it is pretty much a wash. I would be happy that they weren't insisting that it be done in C++. 8-) John W. Colby Colby Consulting www.ColbyConsulting.com -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Rocky Smolin at Beach Access Software Sent: Friday, February 01, 2008 11:50 AM To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' Subject: [AccessD] SQL vs Access Dear List: I am looking at doing a job which is ideal for an Access back end (IMO) but IT would prefer a SQL back end for the reasons below. I expressed the opinion that SQL would be overkill. But they are concerned about stability and backup. How do I respond to this? Does he have a valid point? The database will have a relatively small amount of data and 4 initially and eventually up to 10 users. Light entry and update. ********************************************************** I think his response about it being overkill is from the perspective that it is a small application which normally wouldn't warrant a MS SQL license and overhead. Because we already have several servers, we would not require any additional licenses. The real reason we would like the MS SQL backend is for stability and backup purposes. We cannot backup an Access database the same way we can MS SQL because it is simply a flat file and can sometimes not properly backup if the file is currently in use (which will be the majority of the time). Additionally, in the past we have had problems with corrupt MS Access databases when multiple people are accessing it simultaneously. I think it would be valuable to have him quote the project if it were done only in MS Access and the side-by-side comparison of the same project with the MS SQL backend. Please let me know if you need further assistance in talking to Rocky about this. ****************************************** MTIA Rocky' -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From jimdettman at verizon.net Fri Feb 1 11:11:06 2008 From: jimdettman at verizon.net (Jim Dettman) Date: Fri, 01 Feb 2008 12:11:06 -0500 Subject: [AccessD] SQL vs Access In-Reply-To: <001401c864f2$7afc56c0$0301a8c0@HAL9005> References: <001401c864f2$7afc56c0$0301a8c0@HAL9005> Message-ID: <00e101c864f5$6fefc9d0$8abea8c0@XPS> Rocky, I'd go with SQL. The only catch to that is if you needed something that JET offers which SQL does not. At present, that's integration with SharePoint. If you don't need that, then SQL server is a far better choice. Jim. -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Rocky Smolin at Beach Access Software Sent: Friday, February 01, 2008 11:50 AM To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' Subject: [AccessD] SQL vs Access Dear List: I am looking at doing a job which is ideal for an Access back end (IMO) but IT would prefer a SQL back end for the reasons below. I expressed the opinion that SQL would be overkill. But they are concerned about stability and backup. How do I respond to this? Does he have a valid point? The database will have a relatively small amount of data and 4 initially and eventually up to 10 users. Light entry and update. ********************************************************** I think his response about it being overkill is from the perspective that it is a small application which normally wouldn't warrant a MS SQL license and overhead. Because we already have several servers, we would not require any additional licenses. The real reason we would like the MS SQL backend is for stability and backup purposes. We cannot backup an Access database the same way we can MS SQL because it is simply a flat file and can sometimes not properly backup if the file is currently in use (which will be the majority of the time). Additionally, in the past we have had problems with corrupt MS Access databases when multiple people are accessing it simultaneously. I think it would be valuable to have him quote the project if it were done only in MS Access and the side-by-side comparison of the same project with the MS SQL backend. Please let me know if you need further assistance in talking to Rocky about this. ****************************************** MTIA Rocky' -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From fuller.artful at gmail.com Fri Feb 1 11:13:56 2008 From: fuller.artful at gmail.com (Arthur Fuller) Date: Fri, 1 Feb 2008 12:13:56 -0500 Subject: [AccessD] SQL vs Access In-Reply-To: <029701c864f4$6a07c0f0$4b3a8343@SusanOne> References: <029701c864f4$6a07c0f0$4b3a8343@SusanOne> Message-ID: <29f585dd0802010913p1ed60f2cxd95084eaf9b8f958@mail.gmail.com> Rocky, As Susan wrote, SQL Express is a viable option. The IT department's point about backup and restore is well-taken, too. Since they already have a backup strategy in place, adding one more DB to it should be trivial. Then you (and they) can forget about it, except for the verification step, which they probably have automated already for their other databases. Were I you, I would acquiesce immediately on this one. You have nothing to lose but credibility if you fight them, and an opportunity to work with SQL Express or SQL Server. Given this path, you should be concerned about which version and format you'll be using. IMO the best combination is A2K or A2K3 using ADP format to talk to a SQL 2000 db. If you try talking to a SQL 2005 db from either of those Access versions, it works, sort of, but you miss a lot of the goodies due to the internal restructuring of the SQL db format. OTOH if you're going to use A2K7 then it's a good fit with SQL 2005. hth, Arthur On Fri, Feb 1, 2008 at 12:03 PM, Susan Harkins wrote: > You might find SQL Server Express easier to work with than Access -- they > might be willing to make that compromise with you. > > Susan H. > > > > Hi Rocky > > > > As he has several running servers and a proven backup scheme, he has a > > valid point. > > -- > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > From dwaters at usinternet.com Fri Feb 1 11:41:30 2008 From: dwaters at usinternet.com (Dan Waters) Date: Fri, 1 Feb 2008 11:41:30 -0600 Subject: [AccessD] SQL 2005 with A2007 vs A2003 (was: SQL vs Access) In-Reply-To: <29f585dd0802010913p1ed60f2cxd95084eaf9b8f958@mail.gmail.com> References: <029701c864f4$6a07c0f0$4b3a8343@SusanOne> <29f585dd0802010913p1ed60f2cxd95084eaf9b8f958@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <004901c864f9$ae1e8850$0300a8c0@danwaters> Arthur, I am soon going to convert all my systems from A2003 FE/BE to A2003 FE / SQL Express 2005 BE. But your email says, "It works, sort of." Could you elaborate on this? You've got me nervous! Thanks, Dan -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Arthur Fuller Sent: Friday, February 01, 2008 11:14 AM To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving Subject: Re: [AccessD] SQL vs Access Rocky, As Susan wrote, SQL Express is a viable option. The IT department's point about backup and restore is well-taken, too. Since they already have a backup strategy in place, adding one more DB to it should be trivial. Then you (and they) can forget about it, except for the verification step, which they probably have automated already for their other databases. Were I you, I would acquiesce immediately on this one. You have nothing to lose but credibility if you fight them, and an opportunity to work with SQL Express or SQL Server. Given this path, you should be concerned about which version and format you'll be using. IMO the best combination is A2K or A2K3 using ADP format to talk to a SQL 2000 db. If you try talking to a SQL 2005 db from either of those Access versions, it works, sort of, but you miss a lot of the goodies due to the internal restructuring of the SQL db format. OTOH if you're going to use A2K7 then it's a good fit with SQL 2005. hth, Arthur On Fri, Feb 1, 2008 at 12:03 PM, Susan Harkins wrote: > You might find SQL Server Express easier to work with than Access -- they > might be willing to make that compromise with you. > > Susan H. > > > > Hi Rocky > > > > As he has several running servers and a proven backup scheme, he has a > > valid point. > > -- > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From rockysmolin at bchacc.com Fri Feb 1 11:42:58 2008 From: rockysmolin at bchacc.com (Rocky Smolin at Beach Access Software) Date: Fri, 1 Feb 2008 09:42:58 -0800 Subject: [AccessD] SQL vs Access In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <002801c864f9$e2972650$0301a8c0@HAL9005> Gustav: How do I transfer the SQL db from here to there? Rocky -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gustav Brock Sent: Friday, February 01, 2008 8:59 AM To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: Re: [AccessD] SQL vs Access Hi Rocky As he has several running servers and a proven backup scheme, he has a valid point. /gustav >>> rockysmolin at bchacc.com 01-02-2008 17:49:53 >>> Dear List: I am looking at doing a job which is ideal for an Access back end (IMO) but IT would prefer a SQL back end for the reasons below. I expressed the opinion that SQL would be overkill. But they are concerned about stability and backup. How do I respond to this? Does he have a valid point? The database will have a relatively small amount of data and 4 initially and eventually up to 10 users. Light entry and update. ********************************************************** I think his response about it being overkill is from the perspective that it is a small application which normally wouldn't warrant a MS SQL license and overhead. Because we already have several servers, we would not require any additional licenses. The real reason we would like the MS SQL backend is for stability and backup purposes. We cannot backup an Access database the same way we can MS SQL because it is simply a flat file and can sometimes not properly backup if the file is currently in use (which will be the majority of the time). Additionally, in the past we have had problems with corrupt MS Access databases when multiple people are accessing it simultaneously. I think it would be valuable to have him quote the project if it were done only in MS Access and the side-by-side comparison of the same project with the MS SQL backend. Please let me know if you need further assistance in talking to Rocky about this. ****************************************** MTIA Rocky' -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.19.18/1254 - Release Date: 1/31/2008 8:30 PM From rockysmolin at bchacc.com Fri Feb 1 11:39:46 2008 From: rockysmolin at bchacc.com (Rocky Smolin at Beach Access Software) Date: Fri, 1 Feb 2008 09:39:46 -0800 Subject: [AccessD] SQL vs Access In-Reply-To: <29f585dd0802010913p1ed60f2cxd95084eaf9b8f958@mail.gmail.com> References: <029701c864f4$6a07c0f0$4b3a8343@SusanOne> <29f585dd0802010913p1ed60f2cxd95084eaf9b8f958@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <002701c864f9$70347720$0301a8c0@HAL9005> Arthur: I have SQL 2005 running here so I could upsize the current mdb back end with the wizard and relink the tables. Does SQL 2005 play well with A2K3? Then, how do I send the back end to the client? I know it doesn't move like an mdb but how is it done? Thanks to all for your input and regards, Rocky -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Arthur Fuller Sent: Friday, February 01, 2008 9:14 AM To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving Subject: Re: [AccessD] SQL vs Access Rocky, As Susan wrote, SQL Express is a viable option. The IT department's point about backup and restore is well-taken, too. Since they already have a backup strategy in place, adding one more DB to it should be trivial. Then you (and they) can forget about it, except for the verification step, which they probably have automated already for their other databases. Were I you, I would acquiesce immediately on this one. You have nothing to lose but credibility if you fight them, and an opportunity to work with SQL Express or SQL Server. Given this path, you should be concerned about which version and format you'll be using. IMO the best combination is A2K or A2K3 using ADP format to talk to a SQL 2000 db. If you try talking to a SQL 2005 db from either of those Access versions, it works, sort of, but you miss a lot of the goodies due to the internal restructuring of the SQL db format. OTOH if you're going to use A2K7 then it's a good fit with SQL 2005. hth, Arthur On Fri, Feb 1, 2008 at 12:03 PM, Susan Harkins wrote: > You might find SQL Server Express easier to work with than Access -- > they might be willing to make that compromise with you. > > Susan H. > > > > Hi Rocky > > > > As he has several running servers and a proven backup scheme, he has > > a valid point. > > -- > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.19.18/1254 - Release Date: 1/31/2008 8:30 PM From newsgrps at dalyn.co.nz Fri Feb 1 11:55:45 2008 From: newsgrps at dalyn.co.nz (David Emerson) Date: Sat, 02 Feb 2008 06:55:45 +1300 Subject: [AccessD] SQL vs Access In-Reply-To: <29f585dd0802010913p1ed60f2cxd95084eaf9b8f958@mail.gmail.co m> References: <029701c864f4$6a07c0f0$4b3a8343@SusanOne> <29f585dd0802010913p1ed60f2cxd95084eaf9b8f958@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <20080201175409.IMPN9910.fep05.xtra.co.nz@Dalyn.dalyn.co.nz> I have a similar project being considered. I have done a few projects with AccessXP ADP and SQL2K. Is there a free/lite version of SQL2K? If so, will a database created in SQL2K work seamlessly in the lite version? If there is not, I also have SQL2005. Will a database created in this be able to be used seamlessly with SQL Express. Can AccessXP ADP's work with SQL2005? Regards David Emerson Dalyn Software Ltd Wellington, New Zealand At 2/02/2008, you wrote: >Rocky, > >As Susan wrote, SQL Express is a viable option. The IT department's point >about backup and restore is well-taken, too. Since they already have a >backup strategy in place, adding one more DB to it should be trivial. Then >you (and they) can forget about it, except for the verification step, which >they probably have automated already for their other databases. > >Were I you, I would acquiesce immediately on this one. You have nothing to >lose but credibility if you fight them, and an opportunity to work with SQL >Express or SQL Server. > >Given this path, you should be concerned about which version and format >you'll be using. IMO the best combination is A2K or A2K3 using ADP format to >talk to a SQL 2000 db. If you try talking to a SQL 2005 db from either of >those Access versions, it works, sort of, but you miss a lot of the goodies >due to the internal restructuring of the SQL db format. OTOH if you're going >to use A2K7 then it's a good fit with SQL 2005. > >hth, >Arthur > >On Fri, Feb 1, 2008 at 12:03 PM, Susan Harkins wrote: > > > You might find SQL Server Express easier to work with than Access -- they > > might be willing to make that compromise with you. > > > > Susan H. > > > > > > > Hi Rocky > > > > > > As he has several running servers and a proven backup scheme, he has a > > > valid point. From fuller.artful at gmail.com Fri Feb 1 11:56:22 2008 From: fuller.artful at gmail.com (Arthur Fuller) Date: Fri, 1 Feb 2008 12:56:22 -0500 Subject: [AccessD] SQL 2005 with A2007 vs A2003 (was: SQL vs Access) In-Reply-To: <004901c864f9$ae1e8850$0300a8c0@danwaters> References: <029701c864f4$6a07c0f0$4b3a8343@SusanOne> <29f585dd0802010913p1ed60f2cxd95084eaf9b8f958@mail.gmail.com> <004901c864f9$ae1e8850$0300a8c0@danwaters> Message-ID: <29f585dd0802010956w22deed5bw73ad3b9a49b19f99@mail.gmail.com> As some wag once so eloquently said, "It depends." I was one of the earliest adopters of the ADP file format, introduced in Access 2000. I dove in headlong, smacked my forehead on a few dozen rocks at the bottom of the pool, survived and learned how and what to do in terms of using stored procedures, views, etc. I fell in love. Times change, and so do versions. SQL 2005 introduced a bunch of new things that are not supported in A2K or A2K3, and for obvious reasons. How could the Access team know in advance what SQL 2K5 would look like? Some of the new features include: A revised notion of Schema -- much better in my opinion, but unknown to A2K and A2K3. Table functions -- a fantastic new addition, much like a view except that it accepts parameters and returns a table. You can go even further: because they return a table, you can use them anywhere you can use a table: you can do joins etc. Again, A2K and A2K3 know nothing of these. New data types -- same issue. Of course, if you use only the old data types then this is a non-issue. When Express 2005 first shipped, it didn't include the equivalent of Management Studio, but now that's available, so perhaps if you stay away from the new schema concept and table UDFs then you'll be fine. hth, Arthur On Fri, Feb 1, 2008 at 12:41 PM, Dan Waters wrote: > Arthur, > > I am soon going to convert all my systems from A2003 FE/BE to A2003 FE / > SQL > Express 2005 BE. > > But your email says, "It works, sort of." Could you elaborate on this? > You've got me nervous! > > Thanks, > Dan > From fuller.artful at gmail.com Fri Feb 1 11:59:41 2008 From: fuller.artful at gmail.com (Arthur Fuller) Date: Fri, 1 Feb 2008 12:59:41 -0500 Subject: [AccessD] SQL vs Access In-Reply-To: <002801c864f9$e2972650$0301a8c0@HAL9005> References: <002801c864f9$e2972650$0301a8c0@HAL9005> Message-ID: <29f585dd0802010959u1d6fb84diebffd45de66f43d9@mail.gmail.com> That is a total cinch, Rocky. Just back it up, then copy the backup file to a CD or memory stick and go to the site, then do a restore on the site. If the db doesn't exist on the site, just choose any db in the list and select Tasks|Restore. When the property sheet comes up, change the name of the db to what you want and check the path of the files to be restored so it makes sense on the site. Presto, you're done. A. On Fri, Feb 1, 2008 at 12:42 PM, Rocky Smolin at Beach Access Software < rockysmolin at bchacc.com> wrote: > Gustav: > > How do I transfer the SQL db from here to there? > > Rocky > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gustav Brock > Sent: Friday, February 01, 2008 8:59 AM > To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com > Subject: Re: [AccessD] SQL vs Access > > Hi Rocky > > As he has several running servers and a proven backup scheme, he has a > valid > point. > > /gustav > > > >>> rockysmolin at bchacc.com 01-02-2008 17:49:53 >>> > Dear List: > > I am looking at doing a job which is ideal for an Access back end (IMO) > but > IT would prefer a SQL back end for the reasons below. I expressed the > opinion that SQL would be overkill. But they are concerned about > stability > and backup. > > How do I respond to this? Does he have a valid point? The database will > have a relatively small amount of data and 4 initially and eventually up > to > 10 users. Light entry and update. > > ********************************************************** > > I think his response about it being overkill is from the perspective that > it > is a small application which normally wouldn't warrant a MS SQL license > and > overhead. Because we already have several servers, we would not require > any > additional licenses. The real reason we would like the MS SQL backend is > for stability and backup purposes. We cannot backup an Access database > the > same way we can MS SQL because it is simply a flat file and can sometimes > not properly backup if the file is currently in use (which will be the > majority of the time). Additionally, in the past we have had problems > with > corrupt MS Access databases when multiple people are accessing it > simultaneously. I think it would be valuable to have him quote the > project > if it were done only in MS Access and the side-by-side comparison of the > same project with the MS SQL backend. Please let me know if you need > further assistance in talking to Rocky about this. > > ****************************************** > > > MTIA > > Rocky' > > > -- > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.19.18/1254 - Release Date: > 1/31/2008 > 8:30 PM > > > -- > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > From jimdettman at verizon.net Fri Feb 1 12:09:28 2008 From: jimdettman at verizon.net (Jim Dettman) Date: Fri, 01 Feb 2008 13:09:28 -0500 Subject: [AccessD] SQL vs Access In-Reply-To: <002801c864f9$e2972650$0301a8c0@HAL9005> References: <002801c864f9$e2972650$0301a8c0@HAL9005> Message-ID: <004901c864fd$970eeb60$8abea8c0@XPS> Rocky, There are a few methods depending on your needs: 1. Detach, do a simple file copy and reattach. 2. Use SQL backup/recover. 3. Copy Database Wizard 4. SQL Scripts. The typical way is the first, although it won't copy jobs you have defined in SQL and User Defined Error messages. It does require exclusive use of the database though. Jim. -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Rocky Smolin at Beach Access Software Sent: Friday, February 01, 2008 12:43 PM To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' Subject: Re: [AccessD] SQL vs Access Gustav: How do I transfer the SQL db from here to there? Rocky -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gustav Brock Sent: Friday, February 01, 2008 8:59 AM To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: Re: [AccessD] SQL vs Access Hi Rocky As he has several running servers and a proven backup scheme, he has a valid point. /gustav >>> rockysmolin at bchacc.com 01-02-2008 17:49:53 >>> Dear List: I am looking at doing a job which is ideal for an Access back end (IMO) but IT would prefer a SQL back end for the reasons below. I expressed the opinion that SQL would be overkill. But they are concerned about stability and backup. How do I respond to this? Does he have a valid point? The database will have a relatively small amount of data and 4 initially and eventually up to 10 users. Light entry and update. ********************************************************** I think his response about it being overkill is from the perspective that it is a small application which normally wouldn't warrant a MS SQL license and overhead. Because we already have several servers, we would not require any additional licenses. The real reason we would like the MS SQL backend is for stability and backup purposes. We cannot backup an Access database the same way we can MS SQL because it is simply a flat file and can sometimes not properly backup if the file is currently in use (which will be the majority of the time). Additionally, in the past we have had problems with corrupt MS Access databases when multiple people are accessing it simultaneously. I think it would be valuable to have him quote the project if it were done only in MS Access and the side-by-side comparison of the same project with the MS SQL backend. Please let me know if you need further assistance in talking to Rocky about this. ****************************************** MTIA Rocky' -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.19.18/1254 - Release Date: 1/31/2008 8:30 PM -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From fuller.artful at gmail.com Fri Feb 1 12:12:38 2008 From: fuller.artful at gmail.com (Arthur Fuller) Date: Fri, 1 Feb 2008 13:12:38 -0500 Subject: [AccessD] SQL vs Access In-Reply-To: <20080201175409.IMPN9910.fep05.xtra.co.nz@Dalyn.dalyn.co.nz> References: <029701c864f4$6a07c0f0$4b3a8343@SusanOne> <29f585dd0802010913p1ed60f2cxd95084eaf9b8f958@mail.gmail.com> <20080201175409.IMPN9910.fep05.xtra.co.nz@Dalyn.dalyn.co.nz> Message-ID: <29f585dd0802011012i20f32db1we93b84970efd2ad@mail.gmail.com> I've just sent a post that answers your question. The answer is yes, within limits as outlined. Arthur On Fri, Feb 1, 2008 at 12:55 PM, David Emerson wrote: > I have a similar project being considered. > > I have done a few projects with AccessXP ADP and SQL2K. Is there a > free/lite version of SQL2K? If so, will a database created in SQL2K > work seamlessly in the lite version? > > If there is not, I also have SQL2005. Will a database created in > this be able to be used seamlessly with SQL Express. > > Can AccessXP ADP's work with SQL2005? > > Regards > > David Emerson > Dalyn Software Ltd > Wellington, New Zealand > > At 2/02/2008, you wrote: > >Rocky, > > > >As Susan wrote, SQL Express is a viable option. The IT department's point > >about backup and restore is well-taken, too. Since they already have a > >backup strategy in place, adding one more DB to it should be trivial. > Then > >you (and they) can forget about it, except for the verification step, > which > >they probably have automated already for their other databases. > > > >Were I you, I would acquiesce immediately on this one. You have nothing > to > >lose but credibility if you fight them, and an opportunity to work with > SQL > >Express or SQL Server. > > > >Given this path, you should be concerned about which version and format > >you'll be using. IMO the best combination is A2K or A2K3 using ADP format > to > >talk to a SQL 2000 db. If you try talking to a SQL 2005 db from either of > >those Access versions, it works, sort of, but you miss a lot of the > goodies > >due to the internal restructuring of the SQL db format. OTOH if you're > going > >to use A2K7 then it's a good fit with SQL 2005. > > > >hth, > >Arthur > > > >On Fri, Feb 1, 2008 at 12:03 PM, Susan Harkins > wrote: > > > > > You might find SQL Server Express easier to work with than Access -- > they > > > might be willing to make that compromise with you. > > > > > > Susan H. > > > > > > > > > > Hi Rocky > > > > > > > > As he has several running servers and a proven backup scheme, he has > a > > > > valid point. > > -- > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > From fuller.artful at gmail.com Fri Feb 1 12:16:06 2008 From: fuller.artful at gmail.com (Arthur Fuller) Date: Fri, 1 Feb 2008 13:16:06 -0500 Subject: [AccessD] SQL vs Access In-Reply-To: <002701c864f9$70347720$0301a8c0@HAL9005> References: <029701c864f4$6a07c0f0$4b3a8343@SusanOne> <29f585dd0802010913p1ed60f2cxd95084eaf9b8f958@mail.gmail.com> <002701c864f9$70347720$0301a8c0@HAL9005> Message-ID: <29f585dd0802011016ha412d9ai955100638855d66e@mail.gmail.com> The answer is Yes, within limits. I outlined some of these in a previous reply. There are a very few other gotchas, such as the difference in date ranges. I'd also suggest that prior to upsizing you go through your forms etc. and look for any record source or row source that begins with "SELECT". If you find any, change them to saved queries before upsizing. Otherwise the upsizer will do it for you, giving them really intuitive names like ~!)xys!~. hth, Arthur On Fri, Feb 1, 2008 at 12:39 PM, Rocky Smolin at Beach Access Software < rockysmolin at bchacc.com> wrote: > Arthur: > > I have SQL 2005 running here so I could upsize the current mdb back end > with > the wizard and relink the tables. Does SQL 2005 play well with A2K3? > > Then, how do I send the back end to the client? I know it doesn't move > like > an mdb but how is it done? > > Thanks to all for your input and regards, > > Rocky > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Arthur Fuller > Sent: Friday, February 01, 2008 9:14 AM > To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving > Subject: Re: [AccessD] SQL vs Access > > Rocky, > > As Susan wrote, SQL Express is a viable option. The IT department's point > about backup and restore is well-taken, too. Since they already have a > backup strategy in place, adding one more DB to it should be trivial. Then > you (and they) can forget about it, except for the verification step, > which > they probably have automated already for their other databases. > > Were I you, I would acquiesce immediately on this one. You have nothing to > lose but credibility if you fight them, and an opportunity to work with > SQL > Express or SQL Server. > > Given this path, you should be concerned about which version and format > you'll be using. IMO the best combination is A2K or A2K3 using ADP format > to > talk to a SQL 2000 db. If you try talking to a SQL 2005 db from either of > those Access versions, it works, sort of, but you miss a lot of the > goodies > due to the internal restructuring of the SQL db format. OTOH if you're > going > to use A2K7 then it's a good fit with SQL 2005. > > hth, > Arthur > > On Fri, Feb 1, 2008 at 12:03 PM, Susan Harkins > wrote: > > > You might find SQL Server Express easier to work with than Access -- > > they might be willing to make that compromise with you. > > > > Susan H. > > > > > > > Hi Rocky > > > > > > As he has several running servers and a proven backup scheme, he has > > > a valid point. > > > > -- > > AccessD mailing list > > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > > -- > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.19.18/1254 - Release Date: > 1/31/2008 > 8:30 PM > > > -- > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com Fri Feb 1 12:17:13 2008 From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (jwcolby) Date: Fri, 1 Feb 2008 13:17:13 -0500 Subject: [AccessD] SQL vs Access In-Reply-To: <29f585dd0802010959u1d6fb84diebffd45de66f43d9@mail.gmail.com> References: <002801c864f9$e2972650$0301a8c0@HAL9005> <29f585dd0802010959u1d6fb84diebffd45de66f43d9@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <004d01c864fe$ab7e21a0$0401a8c0@M90> Arthur, it MIGHT be a cinch. I have run into "ownership" issues. John W. Colby Colby Consulting www.ColbyConsulting.com -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Arthur Fuller Sent: Friday, February 01, 2008 1:00 PM To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving Subject: Re: [AccessD] SQL vs Access That is a total cinch, Rocky. Just back it up, then copy the backup file to a CD or memory stick and go to the site, then do a restore on the site. If the db doesn't exist on the site, just choose any db in the list and select Tasks|Restore. When the property sheet comes up, change the name of the Tasks|db to what you want and check the path of the files to be restored so it makes sense on the site. Presto, you're done. A. On Fri, Feb 1, 2008 at 12:42 PM, Rocky Smolin at Beach Access Software < rockysmolin at bchacc.com> wrote: > Gustav: > > How do I transfer the SQL db from here to there? > > Rocky > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gustav > Brock > Sent: Friday, February 01, 2008 8:59 AM > To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com > Subject: Re: [AccessD] SQL vs Access > > Hi Rocky > > As he has several running servers and a proven backup scheme, he has a > valid point. > > /gustav > > > >>> rockysmolin at bchacc.com 01-02-2008 17:49:53 >>> > Dear List: > > I am looking at doing a job which is ideal for an Access back end > (IMO) but IT would prefer a SQL back end for the reasons below. I > expressed the opinion that SQL would be overkill. But they are > concerned about stability and backup. > > How do I respond to this? Does he have a valid point? The database > will have a relatively small amount of data and 4 initially and > eventually up to 10 users. Light entry and update. > > ********************************************************** > > I think his response about it being overkill is from the perspective > that it is a small application which normally wouldn't warrant a MS > SQL license and overhead. Because we already have several servers, we > would not require any additional licenses. The real reason we would > like the MS SQL backend is for stability and backup purposes. We > cannot backup an Access database the same way we can MS SQL because it > is simply a flat file and can sometimes not properly backup if the > file is currently in use (which will be the majority of the time). > Additionally, in the past we have had problems with corrupt MS Access > databases when multiple people are accessing it simultaneously. I > think it would be valuable to have him quote the project if it were > done only in MS Access and the side-by-side comparison of the same > project with the MS SQL backend. Please let me know if you need > further assistance in talking to Rocky about this. > > ****************************************** > > > MTIA > > Rocky' > > > -- > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.19.18/1254 - Release Date: > 1/31/2008 > 8:30 PM > > > -- > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From rockysmolin at bchacc.com Fri Feb 1 12:20:58 2008 From: rockysmolin at bchacc.com (Rocky Smolin at Beach Access Software) Date: Fri, 1 Feb 2008 10:20:58 -0800 Subject: [AccessD] SQL vs Access In-Reply-To: <20080201175409.IMPN9910.fep05.xtra.co.nz@Dalyn.dalyn.co.nz> References: <029701c864f4$6a07c0f0$4b3a8343@SusanOne><29f585dd0802010913p1ed60f2cxd95084eaf9b8f958@mail.gmail.com> <20080201175409.IMPN9910.fep05.xtra.co.nz@Dalyn.dalyn.co.nz> Message-ID: <003701c864ff$315c9bd0$0301a8c0@HAL9005> Does an A2K3 front end app linked to a SQL back end need to be an ADP or just a regular mdb? Rocky -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of David Emerson Sent: Friday, February 01, 2008 9:56 AM To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving Subject: Re: [AccessD] SQL vs Access I have a similar project being considered. I have done a few projects with AccessXP ADP and SQL2K. Is there a free/lite version of SQL2K? If so, will a database created in SQL2K work seamlessly in the lite version? If there is not, I also have SQL2005. Will a database created in this be able to be used seamlessly with SQL Express. Can AccessXP ADP's work with SQL2005? Regards David Emerson Dalyn Software Ltd Wellington, New Zealand At 2/02/2008, you wrote: >Rocky, > >As Susan wrote, SQL Express is a viable option. The IT department's >point about backup and restore is well-taken, too. Since they already >have a backup strategy in place, adding one more DB to it should be >trivial. Then you (and they) can forget about it, except for the >verification step, which they probably have automated already for their other databases. > >Were I you, I would acquiesce immediately on this one. You have nothing >to lose but credibility if you fight them, and an opportunity to work >with SQL Express or SQL Server. > >Given this path, you should be concerned about which version and format >you'll be using. IMO the best combination is A2K or A2K3 using ADP >format to talk to a SQL 2000 db. If you try talking to a SQL 2005 db >from either of those Access versions, it works, sort of, but you miss a >lot of the goodies due to the internal restructuring of the SQL db >format. OTOH if you're going to use A2K7 then it's a good fit with SQL 2005. > >hth, >Arthur > >On Fri, Feb 1, 2008 at 12:03 PM, Susan Harkins wrote: > > > You might find SQL Server Express easier to work with than Access -- > > they might be willing to make that compromise with you. > > > > Susan H. > > > > > > > Hi Rocky > > > > > > As he has several running servers and a proven backup scheme, he > > > has a valid point. -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.19.18/1254 - Release Date: 1/31/2008 8:30 PM From rockysmolin at bchacc.com Fri Feb 1 12:20:05 2008 From: rockysmolin at bchacc.com (Rocky Smolin at Beach Access Software) Date: Fri, 1 Feb 2008 10:20:05 -0800 Subject: [AccessD] SQL vs Access In-Reply-To: <29f585dd0802010959u1d6fb84diebffd45de66f43d9@mail.gmail.com> References: <002801c864f9$e2972650$0301a8c0@HAL9005> <29f585dd0802010959u1d6fb84diebffd45de66f43d9@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <003601c864ff$131cc5f0$0301a8c0@HAL9005> Or I could backup the file and email it to their IT department and let them do the restore? But what about relinking the tables in the front end? Rocky -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Arthur Fuller Sent: Friday, February 01, 2008 10:00 AM To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving Subject: Re: [AccessD] SQL vs Access That is a total cinch, Rocky. Just back it up, then copy the backup file to a CD or memory stick and go to the site, then do a restore on the site. If the db doesn't exist on the site, just choose any db in the list and select Tasks|Restore. When the property sheet comes up, change the name of the Tasks|db to what you want and check the path of the files to be restored so it makes sense on the site. Presto, you're done. A. On Fri, Feb 1, 2008 at 12:42 PM, Rocky Smolin at Beach Access Software < rockysmolin at bchacc.com> wrote: > Gustav: > > How do I transfer the SQL db from here to there? > > Rocky > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gustav > Brock > Sent: Friday, February 01, 2008 8:59 AM > To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com > Subject: Re: [AccessD] SQL vs Access > > Hi Rocky > > As he has several running servers and a proven backup scheme, he has a > valid point. > > /gustav > > > >>> rockysmolin at bchacc.com 01-02-2008 17:49:53 >>> > Dear List: > > I am looking at doing a job which is ideal for an Access back end > (IMO) but IT would prefer a SQL back end for the reasons below. I > expressed the opinion that SQL would be overkill. But they are > concerned about stability and backup. > > How do I respond to this? Does he have a valid point? The database > will have a relatively small amount of data and 4 initially and > eventually up to 10 users. Light entry and update. > > ********************************************************** > > I think his response about it being overkill is from the perspective > that it is a small application which normally wouldn't warrant a MS > SQL license and overhead. Because we already have several servers, we > would not require any additional licenses. The real reason we would > like the MS SQL backend is for stability and backup purposes. We > cannot backup an Access database the same way we can MS SQL because it > is simply a flat file and can sometimes not properly backup if the > file is currently in use (which will be the majority of the time). > Additionally, in the past we have had problems with corrupt MS Access > databases when multiple people are accessing it simultaneously. I > think it would be valuable to have him quote the project if it were > done only in MS Access and the side-by-side comparison of the same > project with the MS SQL backend. Please let me know if you need > further assistance in talking to Rocky about this. > > ****************************************** > > > MTIA > > Rocky' > > > -- > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.19.18/1254 - Release Date: > 1/31/2008 > 8:30 PM > > > -- > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.19.18/1254 - Release Date: 1/31/2008 8:30 PM From dwaters at usinternet.com Fri Feb 1 13:01:37 2008 From: dwaters at usinternet.com (Dan Waters) Date: Fri, 1 Feb 2008 13:01:37 -0600 Subject: [AccessD] SQL 2005 with A2007 vs A2003 (was: SQL vs Access) In-Reply-To: <29f585dd0802010956w22deed5bw73ad3b9a49b19f99@mail.gmail.com> References: <029701c864f4$6a07c0f0$4b3a8343@SusanOne><29f585dd0802010913p1ed60f2cxd95084eaf9b8f958@mail.gmail.com><004901c864f9$ae1e8850$0300a8c0@danwaters> <29f585dd0802010956w22deed5bw73ad3b9a49b19f99@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <005701c86504$df76ab70$0300a8c0@danwaters> Thanks Arthur - that helps a lot. Dan -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Arthur Fuller Sent: Friday, February 01, 2008 11:56 AM To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving Subject: Re: [AccessD] SQL 2005 with A2007 vs A2003 (was: SQL vs Access) As some wag once so eloquently said, "It depends." I was one of the earliest adopters of the ADP file format, introduced in Access 2000. I dove in headlong, smacked my forehead on a few dozen rocks at the bottom of the pool, survived and learned how and what to do in terms of using stored procedures, views, etc. I fell in love. Times change, and so do versions. SQL 2005 introduced a bunch of new things that are not supported in A2K or A2K3, and for obvious reasons. How could the Access team know in advance what SQL 2K5 would look like? Some of the new features include: A revised notion of Schema -- much better in my opinion, but unknown to A2K and A2K3. Table functions -- a fantastic new addition, much like a view except that it accepts parameters and returns a table. You can go even further: because they return a table, you can use them anywhere you can use a table: you can do joins etc. Again, A2K and A2K3 know nothing of these. New data types -- same issue. Of course, if you use only the old data types then this is a non-issue. When Express 2005 first shipped, it didn't include the equivalent of Management Studio, but now that's available, so perhaps if you stay away from the new schema concept and table UDFs then you'll be fine. hth, Arthur On Fri, Feb 1, 2008 at 12:41 PM, Dan Waters wrote: > Arthur, > > I am soon going to convert all my systems from A2003 FE/BE to A2003 FE / > SQL > Express 2005 BE. > > But your email says, "It works, sort of." Could you elaborate on this? > You've got me nervous! > > Thanks, > Dan > -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From fuller.artful at gmail.com Fri Feb 1 13:17:25 2008 From: fuller.artful at gmail.com (Arthur Fuller) Date: Fri, 1 Feb 2008 14:17:25 -0500 Subject: [AccessD] SQL vs Access In-Reply-To: <003701c864ff$315c9bd0$0301a8c0@HAL9005> References: <029701c864f4$6a07c0f0$4b3a8343@SusanOne> <29f585dd0802010913p1ed60f2cxd95084eaf9b8f958@mail.gmail.com> <20080201175409.IMPN9910.fep05.xtra.co.nz@Dalyn.dalyn.co.nz> <003701c864ff$315c9bd0$0301a8c0@HAL9005> Message-ID: <29f585dd0802011117o2420013cjdb13568e33e3dc1d@mail.gmail.com> MDB will do fine, using ODBC. Simplest approach is to create identical setups on your home network. I do this all the time by creating a directory on a server then mapping to it from my development box, calling it whatever I need to mirror the client's setup. A. On Fri, Feb 1, 2008 at 1:20 PM, Rocky Smolin at Beach Access Software < rockysmolin at bchacc.com> wrote: > Does an A2K3 front end app linked to a SQL back end need to be an ADP or > just a regular mdb? > > Rocky > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of David Emerson > Sent: Friday, February 01, 2008 9:56 AM > To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving > Subject: Re: [AccessD] SQL vs Access > > I have a similar project being considered. > > I have done a few projects with AccessXP ADP and SQL2K. Is there a > free/lite version of SQL2K? If so, will a database created in SQL2K work > seamlessly in the lite version? > > If there is not, I also have SQL2005. Will a database created in this be > able to be used seamlessly with SQL Express. > > Can AccessXP ADP's work with SQL2005? > > Regards > > David Emerson > Dalyn Software Ltd > Wellington, New Zealand > > At 2/02/2008, you wrote: > >Rocky, > > > >As Susan wrote, SQL Express is a viable option. The IT department's > >point about backup and restore is well-taken, too. Since they already > >have a backup strategy in place, adding one more DB to it should be > >trivial. Then you (and they) can forget about it, except for the > >verification step, which they probably have automated already for their > other databases. > > > >Were I you, I would acquiesce immediately on this one. You have nothing > >to lose but credibility if you fight them, and an opportunity to work > >with SQL Express or SQL Server. > > > >Given this path, you should be concerned about which version and format > >you'll be using. IMO the best combination is A2K or A2K3 using ADP > >format to talk to a SQL 2000 db. If you try talking to a SQL 2005 db > >from either of those Access versions, it works, sort of, but you miss a > >lot of the goodies due to the internal restructuring of the SQL db > >format. OTOH if you're going to use A2K7 then it's a good fit with SQL > 2005. > > > >hth, > >Arthur > > > >On Fri, Feb 1, 2008 at 12:03 PM, Susan Harkins > wrote: > > > > > You might find SQL Server Express easier to work with than Access -- > > > they might be willing to make that compromise with you. > > > > > > Susan H. > > > > > > > > > > Hi Rocky > > > > > > > > As he has several running servers and a proven backup scheme, he > > > > has a valid point. > > -- > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.19.18/1254 - Release Date: > 1/31/2008 > 8:30 PM > > > -- > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > From miscellany at mvps.org Fri Feb 1 13:33:43 2008 From: miscellany at mvps.org (Steve Schapel) Date: Sat, 02 Feb 2008 08:33:43 +1300 Subject: [AccessD] SQL vs Access In-Reply-To: <029701c864f4$6a07c0f0$4b3a8343@SusanOne> References: <029701c864f4$6a07c0f0$4b3a8343@SusanOne> Message-ID: <47A37417.9010908@mvps.org> Susan, Can you say in what sense SQL Server Express would be easier to work with than Access? Thanks. Regards Steve Susan Harkins wrote: > You might find SQL Server Express easier to work with than Access -- they > might be willing to make that compromise with you. From ssharkins at gmail.com Fri Feb 1 14:13:49 2008 From: ssharkins at gmail.com (Susan Harkins) Date: Fri, 1 Feb 2008 15:13:49 -0500 Subject: [AccessD] SQL vs Access References: <029701c864f4$6a07c0f0$4b3a8343@SusanOne> <47A37417.9010908@mvps.org> Message-ID: <01d601c8650f$27285a90$4b3a8343@SusanOne> I didn't mean Access, I meant SQL Server full-blown. Sorry about that. Susan H. > Susan, > > Can you say in what sense SQL Server Express would be easier to work > with than Access? Thanks. From DWUTKA at Marlow.com Fri Feb 1 14:30:44 2008 From: DWUTKA at Marlow.com (Drew Wutka) Date: Fri, 1 Feb 2008 14:30:44 -0600 Subject: [AccessD] SQL vs Access In-Reply-To: <001401c864f2$7afc56c0$0301a8c0@HAL9005> Message-ID: If they are backing up when people are using the system, that's bad planning, unless your app needs to be running 24/7. Also, corruption is usually due to a bad network connection. However, you're fighting an uphill battle with IT with SQL vs. Access. Just charge them more and develop it for SQL Server. Drew -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Rocky Smolin at Beach Access Software Sent: Friday, February 01, 2008 10:50 AM To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' Subject: [AccessD] SQL vs Access Dear List: I am looking at doing a job which is ideal for an Access back end (IMO) but IT would prefer a SQL back end for the reasons below. I expressed the opinion that SQL would be overkill. But they are concerned about stability and backup. How do I respond to this? Does he have a valid point? The database will have a relatively small amount of data and 4 initially and eventually up to 10 users. Light entry and update. ********************************************************** I think his response about it being overkill is from the perspective that it is a small application which normally wouldn't warrant a MS SQL license and overhead. Because we already have several servers, we would not require any additional licenses. The real reason we would like the MS SQL backend is for stability and backup purposes. We cannot backup an Access database the same way we can MS SQL because it is simply a flat file and can sometimes not properly backup if the file is currently in use (which will be the majority of the time). Additionally, in the past we have had problems with corrupt MS Access databases when multiple people are accessing it simultaneously. I think it would be valuable to have him quote the project if it were done only in MS Access and the side-by-side comparison of the same project with the MS SQL backend. Please let me know if you need further assistance in talking to Rocky about this. ****************************************** MTIA Rocky' -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com The information contained in this transmission is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain II-VI Proprietary and/or II-VI BusinessSensitve material. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender immediately and destroy the material in its entirety, whether electronic or hard copy. You are notified that any review, retransmission, copying, disclosure, dissemination, or other use of, or taking of any action in reliance upon this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient is prohibited. From markamatte at hotmail.com Fri Feb 1 14:36:49 2008 From: markamatte at hotmail.com (Mark A Matte) Date: Fri, 1 Feb 2008 20:36:49 +0000 Subject: [AccessD] What version mdb? In-Reply-To: <47A37417.9010908@mvps.org> References: <029701c864f4$6a07c0f0$4b3a8343@SusanOne> <47A37417.9010908@mvps.org> Message-ID: Hello All, I have an app that is using an MDB...how do I tell what verion of MDB...its at least prior to A97. Thanks, Mark A. Matte _________________________________________________________________ Shed those extra pounds with MSN and The Biggest Loser! http://biggestloser.msn.com/ From fuller.artful at gmail.com Fri Feb 1 14:45:22 2008 From: fuller.artful at gmail.com (Arthur Fuller) Date: Fri, 1 Feb 2008 15:45:22 -0500 Subject: [AccessD] What version mdb? In-Reply-To: References: <029701c864f4$6a07c0f0$4b3a8343@SusanOne> <47A37417.9010908@mvps.org> Message-ID: <29f585dd0802011245w4018ff0axaac1b22df85e706@mail.gmail.com> What happens when you attempt to open it in A97? On Fri, Feb 1, 2008 at 3:36 PM, Mark A Matte wrote: > > > Hello All, > > I have an app that is using an MDB...how do I tell what verion of > MDB...its at least prior to A97. > > Thanks, > > Mark A. Matte > _________________________________________________________________ > Shed those extra pounds with MSN and The Biggest Loser! > http://biggestloser.msn.com/ > -- > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > From miscellany at mvps.org Fri Feb 1 14:47:09 2008 From: miscellany at mvps.org (Steve Schapel) Date: Sat, 02 Feb 2008 09:47:09 +1300 Subject: [AccessD] SQL vs Access In-Reply-To: <01d601c8650f$27285a90$4b3a8343@SusanOne> References: <029701c864f4$6a07c0f0$4b3a8343@SusanOne> <47A37417.9010908@mvps.org> <01d601c8650f$27285a90$4b3a8343@SusanOne> Message-ID: <47A3854D.5000906@mvps.org> Ah! Ok, that makes sense now. :-) Thanks. Regards Steve Susan Harkins wrote: > I didn't mean Access, I meant SQL Server full-blown. Sorry about that. > From markamatte at hotmail.com Fri Feb 1 15:12:57 2008 From: markamatte at hotmail.com (Mark A Matte) Date: Fri, 1 Feb 2008 21:12:57 +0000 Subject: [AccessD] What version mdb? In-Reply-To: <29f585dd0802011245w4018ff0axaac1b22df85e706@mail.gmail.com> References: <029701c864f4$6a07c0f0$4b3a8343@SusanOne> <47A37417.9010908@mvps.org> <29f585dd0802011245w4018ff0axaac1b22df85e706@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: I figured it out. When I open it in A97,AXP,A03...it tells me!!!!!prior version!!!!!....but doesn't tell me which one. I found that XP and 03 then put it on the header...2.0 file format...A97 didn't do that. Thanks, Mark A. Matte P.S...explains why jetcomp didn't work... > Date: Fri, 1 Feb 2008 15:45:22 -0500 > From: fuller.artful at gmail.com > To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com > Subject: Re: [AccessD] What version mdb? > > What happens when you attempt to open it in A97? > > On Fri, Feb 1, 2008 at 3:36 PM, Mark A Matte wrote: > >> >> >> Hello All, >> >> I have an app that is using an MDB...how do I tell what verion of >> MDB...its at least prior to A97. >> >> Thanks, >> >> Mark A. Matte >> _________________________________________________________________ >> Shed those extra pounds with MSN and The Biggest Loser! >> http://biggestloser.msn.com/ >> -- >> AccessD mailing list >> AccessD at databaseadvisors.com >> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd >> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com >> > -- > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com _________________________________________________________________ Helping your favorite cause is as easy as instant messaging.?You IM, we give. http://im.live.com/Messenger/IM/Home/?source=text_hotmail_join From shamil at users.mns.ru Fri Feb 1 21:39:31 2008 From: shamil at users.mns.ru (Shamil Salakhetdinov) Date: Sat, 2 Feb 2008 06:39:31 +0300 Subject: [AccessD] SQL vs Access In-Reply-To: <01d601c8650f$27285a90$4b3a8343@SusanOne> Message-ID: <000301c8654d$38526430$6501a8c0@nant> But SQL Server Express with SQL Server Express Management Studio - aren't they easy to use and free and powerful enough for SOHO/middle-size businesses? -- Shamil -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Susan Harkins Sent: Friday, February 01, 2008 11:14 PM To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving Subject: Re: [AccessD] SQL vs Access I didn't mean Access, I meant SQL Server full-blown. Sorry about that. Susan H. > Susan, > > Can you say in what sense SQL Server Express would be easier to work > with than Access? Thanks. -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From ssharkins at gmail.com Fri Feb 1 21:45:43 2008 From: ssharkins at gmail.com (Susan Harkins) Date: Fri, 1 Feb 2008 22:45:43 -0500 Subject: [AccessD] SQL vs Access References: <000301c8654d$38526430$6501a8c0@nant> Message-ID: <005401c8654e$18fc1fd0$4b3a8343@SusanOne> Yes. Susan H. > But SQL Server Express with SQL Server Express Management Studio - aren't > they easy to use and free and powerful enough for SOHO/middle-size > businesses? From tinanfields at torchlake.com Sat Feb 2 09:59:11 2008 From: tinanfields at torchlake.com (Tina Norris Fields) Date: Sat, 02 Feb 2008 10:59:11 -0500 Subject: [AccessD] SQL vs Access In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <47A4934F.5060004@torchlake.com> Drew, I'm so glad you said that. I kept thinking it, but didn't say it. Why ARE they backing it up when people are using it? Rocky, do you know the answer to that? Just curious. Not smart enough to really contribute to the discussion, but curious enough to follow it and ask questions. Tina Drew Wutka wrote: > If they are backing up when people are using the system, that's bad > planning, unless your app needs to be running 24/7. Also, corruption is > usually due to a bad network connection. > > However, you're fighting an uphill battle with IT with SQL vs. Access. > Just charge them more and develop it for SQL Server. > > Drew > > -----Original Message----- > From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Rocky Smolin > at Beach Access Software > Sent: Friday, February 01, 2008 10:50 AM > To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' > Subject: [AccessD] SQL vs Access > > Dear List: > > I am looking at doing a job which is ideal for an Access back end (IMO) > but > IT would prefer a SQL back end for the reasons below. I expressed the > opinion that SQL would be overkill. But they are concerned about > stability > and backup. > > How do I respond to this? Does he have a valid point? The database will > have a relatively small amount of data and 4 initially and eventually up > to > 10 users. Light entry and update. > > ********************************************************** > > I think his response about it being overkill is from the perspective > that it > is a small application which normally wouldn't warrant a MS SQL license > and > overhead. Because we already have several servers, we would not require > any > additional licenses. The real reason we would like the MS SQL backend > is > for stability and backup purposes. We cannot backup an Access database > the > same way we can MS SQL because it is simply a flat file and can > sometimes > not properly backup if the file is currently in use (which will be the > majority of the time). Additionally, in the past we have had problems > with > corrupt MS Access databases when multiple people are accessing it > simultaneously. I think it would be valuable to have him quote the > project > if it were done only in MS Access and the side-by-side comparison of the > same project with the MS SQL backend. Please let me know if you need > further assistance in talking to Rocky about this. > > ****************************************** > > > MTIA > > Rocky' > > From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com Sat Feb 2 10:17:23 2008 From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (jwcolby) Date: Sat, 2 Feb 2008 11:17:23 -0500 Subject: [AccessD] SQL vs Access In-Reply-To: <47A4934F.5060004@torchlake.com> References: <47A4934F.5060004@torchlake.com> Message-ID: <000a01c865b7$18ae3630$0401a8c0@M90> Databases are backed up while people are using them all of the time. Big transactional databases are never inactive so you have to be able to backup when people are in them. The problem with an Access database is that it is a file backend, not a server be. When people are in it the file is locked. In the past this prevented it from being backed up, though I do not think that is true anymore (with shadow copy stuff). In any case, IT sees this as a regular file, that has to be backed up with a regular "file be backup software", and restored the same way. They think that it cannot be backed up if people are in it. With access, that means if anyone did not get out of the database at night which happens a LOT. In any event, it is probably a losing battle. IT has a system, they do not want to go creating outboard databases that they have to worry about. They want the Be to be a database on one of the servers which is already set up to be backed up. John W. Colby Colby Consulting www.ColbyConsulting.com -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Tina Norris Fields Sent: Saturday, February 02, 2008 10:59 AM To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving Subject: Re: [AccessD] SQL vs Access Drew, I'm so glad you said that. I kept thinking it, but didn't say it. Why ARE they backing it up when people are using it? Rocky, do you know the answer to that? Just curious. Not smart enough to really contribute to the discussion, but curious enough to follow it and ask questions. Tina Drew Wutka wrote: > If they are backing up when people are using the system, that's bad > planning, unless your app needs to be running 24/7. Also, corruption > is usually due to a bad network connection. > > However, you're fighting an uphill battle with IT with SQL vs. Access. > Just charge them more and develop it for SQL Server. > > Drew > > -----Original Message----- > From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Rocky > Smolin at Beach Access Software > Sent: Friday, February 01, 2008 10:50 AM > To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' > Subject: [AccessD] SQL vs Access > > Dear List: > > I am looking at doing a job which is ideal for an Access back end > (IMO) but IT would prefer a SQL back end for the reasons below. I > expressed the opinion that SQL would be overkill. But they are > concerned about stability and backup. > > How do I respond to this? Does he have a valid point? The database > will have a relatively small amount of data and 4 initially and > eventually up to 10 users. Light entry and update. > > ********************************************************** > > I think his response about it being overkill is from the perspective > that it is a small application which normally wouldn't warrant a MS > SQL license and overhead. Because we already have several servers, we > would not require any additional licenses. The real reason we would > like the MS SQL backend is for stability and backup purposes. We > cannot backup an Access database the same way we can MS SQL because it > is simply a flat file and can sometimes not properly backup if the > file is currently in use (which will be the majority of the time). > Additionally, in the past we have had problems with corrupt MS Access > databases when multiple people are accessing it simultaneously. I > think it would be valuable to have him quote the project if it were > done only in MS Access and the side-by-side comparison of the same > project with the MS SQL backend. Please let me know if you need > further assistance in talking to Rocky about this. > > ****************************************** > > > MTIA > > Rocky' > > -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From fuller.artful at gmail.com Sat Feb 2 10:38:24 2008 From: fuller.artful at gmail.com (Arthur Fuller) Date: Sat, 2 Feb 2008 11:38:24 -0500 Subject: [AccessD] SQL vs Access In-Reply-To: <000a01c865b7$18ae3630$0401a8c0@M90> References: <47A4934F.5060004@torchlake.com> <000a01c865b7$18ae3630$0401a8c0@M90> Message-ID: <29f585dd0802020838j14267588w7881d34f503d0202@mail.gmail.com> Back when I worked with the event-travel agency, we backed up the database 4 times per day, without ever kicking anyone off. Once our packages went on sale, the order-takers would be in a frenzy for the first day or two, by which time the inventory would usually be gone. In a fixed-inventory (i.e. we have 400 tickets and cannot replenish) situation, timely backups are crucial. I would have done backups even more frequently. The process didn't intrude noticeably and in the worst case (which never happened, but had it, we were ready), we'd have lost only two hours worth of data -- significant, to be sure, but not calamitous. There is no reason that I know to bring the server down while doing backups. If you have a huge database, do differential backups. Ours was relatively small, about 100MB, and backup was so quick that I didn't bother doing differentials, I did a full backup 4 times a day. A. From fuller.artful at gmail.com Sat Feb 2 10:45:18 2008 From: fuller.artful at gmail.com (Arthur Fuller) Date: Sat, 2 Feb 2008 11:45:18 -0500 Subject: [AccessD] SQL vs Access In-Reply-To: <29f585dd0802020838j14267588w7881d34f503d0202@mail.gmail.com> References: <47A4934F.5060004@torchlake.com> <000a01c865b7$18ae3630$0401a8c0@M90> <29f585dd0802020838j14267588w7881d34f503d0202@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <29f585dd0802020845v4ce51ee2s21820e3b8e537035@mail.gmail.com> One proviso on this backup discussion. You have two sorts of backups: normal backups as performed by Windows itself or some replacement product, and database backups. When setting up the former, you should take care to exclude the directories housing your database data and log files. Standard backup won't be able to back these files up while the database is running. Therefore exclude these directories from standard processes and set up separate backups from within SQL Server. You can schedule these at as fine a granularity as you wish (often for critical databases, less often for occasionally used databases). And one final note. Backup your system databases frequently, too. They contain all information about your databases, your jobs, etc. You don't need to do this every day, but when you make significant changes to an important database or add jobs, etc., you should backup the system databases when you're done. A. From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com Sat Feb 2 10:47:53 2008 From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (jwcolby) Date: Sat, 2 Feb 2008 11:47:53 -0500 Subject: [AccessD] SQL Server Pivot Message-ID: <001101c865bb$5b31a8d0$0401a8c0@M90> I have a bunch of columns that break out ages into bands. For example: Presence_of_adults_age_65_74_specific Presence_of_adults_age_55_64_specific Presence_of_adults_age_45_54_specific etc Each column has codes 1,2,3 I need counts of each column, for each value column Cnt1 Cnt2 Cnt3 65_74 45 3 23 55_64 103 48 211 45_54 20 1 49 etc I think the Pivot statement is going to do that for me but I can't seem to wrap my mind around the syntax. Can anyone point me to a web page that clearly explains this or simply write a SQL statement that does this? Thanks John W. Colby Colby Consulting www.ColbyConsulting.com From tinanfields at torchlake.com Sat Feb 2 11:26:30 2008 From: tinanfields at torchlake.com (Tina Norris Fields) Date: Sat, 02 Feb 2008 12:26:30 -0500 Subject: [AccessD] SQL vs Access In-Reply-To: <29f585dd0802020845v4ce51ee2s21820e3b8e537035@mail.gmail.com> References: <47A4934F.5060004@torchlake.com> <000a01c865b7$18ae3630$0401a8c0@M90> <29f585dd0802020838j14267588w7881d34f503d0202@mail.gmail.com> <29f585dd0802020845v4ce51ee2s21820e3b8e537035@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <47A4A7C6.8050705@torchlake.com> Thank you to both John and Arthur for these explanations. I learned something useful today. Tina Arthur Fuller wrote: > One proviso on this backup discussion. You have two sorts of backups: normal > backups as performed by Windows itself or some replacement product, and > database backups. When setting up the former, you should take care to > exclude the directories housing your database data and log files. Standard > backup won't be able to back these files up while the database is running. > Therefore exclude these directories from standard processes and set up > separate backups from within SQL Server. You can schedule these at as fine a > granularity as you wish (often for critical databases, less often for > occasionally used databases). > > And one final note. Backup your system databases frequently, too. They > contain all information about your databases, your jobs, etc. You don't need > to do this every day, but when you make significant changes to an important > database or add jobs, etc., you should backup the system databases when > you're done. > > A. > From markamatte at hotmail.com Sat Feb 2 11:38:37 2008 From: markamatte at hotmail.com (Mark A Matte) Date: Sat, 2 Feb 2008 17:38:37 +0000 Subject: [AccessD] SQL Server Pivot In-Reply-To: <001101c865bb$5b31a8d0$0401a8c0@M90> References: <001101c865bb$5b31a8d0$0401a8c0@M90> Message-ID: John, If I understand what your asking...this isn't quite a normal PIVOT situation. A PIVOT uses data(the values) as row headers and column headers. Your example sounds like you want to use data as column headers and column names as row headers? If I had to do this is access I would use iif statements to determine what field the data came from. Good luck, Mark A. Matte ************************SQL********************* TRANSFORM Count(*) AS Expr1 SELECT IIf(IsNull([55_64])=True,IIf(IsNull([65_74])=True,"45_54","65_74"),"55_64") AS FieldName FROM tblJC GROUP BY IIf(IsNull([55_64])=True,IIf(IsNull([65_74])=True,"45_54","65_74"),"55_64") PIVOT IIf(IsNull([55_64])=True,IIf(IsNull([65_74])=True,[45_54],[65_74]),[55_64]); ************************SQL********************* > From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com > To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com; dba-sqlserver at databaseadvisors.com > Date: Sat, 2 Feb 2008 11:47:53 -0500 > Subject: [AccessD] SQL Server Pivot > > I have a bunch of columns that break out ages into bands. For example: > > Presence_of_adults_age_65_74_specific > Presence_of_adults_age_55_64_specific > Presence_of_adults_age_45_54_specific > etc > > Each column has codes 1,2,3 > > I need counts of each column, for each value > > column Cnt1 Cnt2 Cnt3 > 65_74 45 3 23 > 55_64 103 48 211 > 45_54 20 1 49 > > etc > > I think the Pivot statement is going to do that for me but I can't seem to > wrap my mind around the syntax. Can anyone point me to a web page that > clearly explains this or simply write a SQL statement that does this? > > Thanks > > John W. Colby > Colby Consulting > www.ColbyConsulting.com > > -- > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com _________________________________________________________________ Climb to the top of the charts!?Play the word scramble challenge with star power. http://club.live.com/star_shuffle.aspx?icid=starshuffle_wlmailtextlink_jan From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com Sat Feb 2 12:53:25 2008 From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (jwcolby) Date: Sat, 2 Feb 2008 13:53:25 -0500 Subject: [AccessD] SQL Server Pivot In-Reply-To: References: <001101c865bb$5b31a8d0$0401a8c0@M90> Message-ID: <001801c865cc$e4588780$0401a8c0@M90> Mark, You are correct that is my problem. Additionally I need to be able to pull all this out with the PKID because they want to do this using where clauses on other fields in the table. This method of storing the Age is just a royal PITA. John W. Colby Colby Consulting www.ColbyConsulting.com -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Mark A Matte Sent: Saturday, February 02, 2008 12:39 PM To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving Subject: Re: [AccessD] SQL Server Pivot John, If I understand what your asking...this isn't quite a normal PIVOT situation. A PIVOT uses data(the values) as row headers and column headers. Your example sounds like you want to use data as column headers and column names as row headers? If I had to do this is access I would use iif statements to determine what field the data came from. Good luck, Mark A. Matte ************************SQL********************* TRANSFORM Count(*) AS Expr1 SELECT IIf(IsNull([55_64])=True,IIf(IsNull([65_74])=True,"45_54","65_74"),"55_64") AS FieldName FROM tblJC GROUP BY IIf(IsNull([55_64])=True,IIf(IsNull([65_74])=True,"45_54","65_74"),"55_64") PIVOT IIf(IsNull([55_64])=True,IIf(IsNull([65_74])=True,[45_54],[65_74]),[55_64]); ************************SQL********************* > From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com > To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com; dba-sqlserver at databaseadvisors.com > Date: Sat, 2 Feb 2008 11:47:53 -0500 > Subject: [AccessD] SQL Server Pivot > > I have a bunch of columns that break out ages into bands. For example: > > Presence_of_adults_age_65_74_specific > Presence_of_adults_age_55_64_specific > Presence_of_adults_age_45_54_specific > etc > > Each column has codes 1,2,3 > > I need counts of each column, for each value > > column Cnt1 Cnt2 Cnt3 > 65_74 45 3 23 > 55_64 103 48 211 > 45_54 20 1 49 > > etc > > I think the Pivot statement is going to do that for me but I can't > seem to wrap my mind around the syntax. Can anyone point me to a web > page that clearly explains this or simply write a SQL statement that does this? > > Thanks > > John W. Colby > Colby Consulting > www.ColbyConsulting.com > > -- > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com _________________________________________________________________ Climb to the top of the charts!?Play the word scramble challenge with star power. http://club.live.com/star_shuffle.aspx?icid=starshuffle_wlmailtextlink_jan -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From fuller.artful at gmail.com Sat Feb 2 14:43:34 2008 From: fuller.artful at gmail.com (Arthur Fuller) Date: Sat, 2 Feb 2008 15:43:34 -0500 Subject: [AccessD] SQL Server Pivot In-Reply-To: <001801c865cc$e4588780$0401a8c0@M90> References: <001101c865bb$5b31a8d0$0401a8c0@M90> <001801c865cc$e4588780$0401a8c0@M90> Message-ID: <29f585dd0802021243mad072c7l6dfe20a29d2e4399@mail.gmail.com> >> This method of storing the Age is just a royal PITA. Not to mention the boundary conditions: within a year, people in the 45-54 category will move to the 55-64 group. An unenviable task. A. From DWUTKA at Marlow.com Sat Feb 2 15:15:37 2008 From: DWUTKA at Marlow.com (Drew Wutka) Date: Sat, 2 Feb 2008 15:15:37 -0600 Subject: [AccessD] SQL vs Access In-Reply-To: <47A4934F.5060004@torchlake.com> Message-ID: It depends on the business. Plus, sometimes people leave apps open, over night. That's something a developer should keep in mind on there apps. But IT shops usually can't stand Access apps, because they can't control them the same way they control SQL Server based stuff.... Drew -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Tina Norris Fields Sent: Saturday, February 02, 2008 9:59 AM To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving Subject: Re: [AccessD] SQL vs Access Drew, I'm so glad you said that. I kept thinking it, but didn't say it. Why ARE they backing it up when people are using it? Rocky, do you know the answer to that? Just curious. Not smart enough to really contribute to the discussion, but curious enough to follow it and ask questions. Tina Drew Wutka wrote: > If they are backing up when people are using the system, that's bad > planning, unless your app needs to be running 24/7. Also, corruption is > usually due to a bad network connection. > > However, you're fighting an uphill battle with IT with SQL vs. Access. > Just charge them more and develop it for SQL Server. > > Drew > > -----Original Message----- > From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Rocky Smolin > at Beach Access Software > Sent: Friday, February 01, 2008 10:50 AM > To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' > Subject: [AccessD] SQL vs Access > > Dear List: > > I am looking at doing a job which is ideal for an Access back end (IMO) > but > IT would prefer a SQL back end for the reasons below. I expressed the > opinion that SQL would be overkill. But they are concerned about > stability > and backup. > > How do I respond to this? Does he have a valid point? The database will > have a relatively small amount of data and 4 initially and eventually up > to > 10 users. Light entry and update. > > ********************************************************** > > I think his response about it being overkill is from the perspective > that it > is a small application which normally wouldn't warrant a MS SQL license > and > overhead. Because we already have several servers, we would not require > any > additional licenses. The real reason we would like the MS SQL backend > is > for stability and backup purposes. We cannot backup an Access database > the > same way we can MS SQL because it is simply a flat file and can > sometimes > not properly backup if the file is currently in use (which will be the > majority of the time). Additionally, in the past we have had problems > with > corrupt MS Access databases when multiple people are accessing it > simultaneously. I think it would be valuable to have him quote the > project > if it were done only in MS Access and the side-by-side comparison of the > same project with the MS SQL backend. Please let me know if you need > further assistance in talking to Rocky about this. > > ****************************************** > > > MTIA > > Rocky' > > -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com The information contained in this transmission is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain II-VI Proprietary and/or II-VI BusinessSensitve material. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender immediately and destroy the material in its entirety, whether electronic or hard copy. You are notified that any review, retransmission, copying, disclosure, dissemination, or other use of, or taking of any action in reliance upon this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient is prohibited. From Gustav at cactus.dk Sun Feb 3 07:44:05 2008 From: Gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock) Date: Sun, 03 Feb 2008 14:44:05 +0100 Subject: [AccessD] SQL Server Pivot Message-ID: Hi Arthur Not all of them, only those 54 years old ... /gustav >>> fuller.artful at gmail.com 02-02-2008 21:43:34 >>> >> This method of storing the Age is just a royal PITA. Not to mention the boundary conditions: within a year, people in the 45-54 category will move to the 55-64 group. An unenviable task. A. From fuller.artful at gmail.com Sun Feb 3 08:01:20 2008 From: fuller.artful at gmail.com (Arthur Fuller) Date: Sun, 3 Feb 2008 09:01:20 -0500 Subject: [AccessD] SQL Server Pivot In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <29f585dd0802030601m58db1e02ybdefad83fb0c0521@mail.gmail.com> What I meant LOL. ) I know it's too late for Friday OT, but you gotta check out the Helsinki Complaints Choir on YouTube. A. On Sun, Feb 3, 2008 at 8:44 AM, Gustav Brock wrote: > Hi Arthur > > Not all of them, only those 54 years old ... > > /gustav > From Gustav at cactus.dk Sun Feb 3 08:34:23 2008 From: Gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock) Date: Sun, 03 Feb 2008 15:34:23 +0100 Subject: [AccessD] SQL Server Pivot Message-ID: Hi Arthur Now, that was many complaints! Bizarre indeed. /gustav >>> fuller.artful at gmail.com 03-02-2008 15:01:20 >>> What I meant LOL. ) I know it's too late for Friday OT, but you gotta check out the Helsinki Complaints Choir on YouTube. A. On Sun, Feb 3, 2008 at 8:44 AM, Gustav Brock wrote: > Hi Arthur > > Not all of them, only those 54 years old ... > > /gustav From adtp at airtelbroadband.in Sun Feb 3 13:05:51 2008 From: adtp at airtelbroadband.in (A.D.Tejpal) Date: Mon, 4 Feb 2008 00:35:51 +0530 Subject: [AccessD] SQL Server Pivot References: <001101c865bb$5b31a8d0$0401a8c0@M90> Message-ID: <006201c86697$fe7f9c90$c257a27a@personald6374f> John, The requirement presented by you would involve crosstab flip flop. Generic sample subroutine named P_MakeAndShowQryFlipFlop(), as given below, transforms table contents from cross tab to normal and then back to new version of crosstab. The results are displayed in programmatically built query "Q_FlipFlop" The subroutine needs two arguments as follows: (a) Name of table (b) Ordinal position of first field storing age codes. (Imp: It is to be ensured that all fields thereafter are only those with age codes) For example, if the data table is named T_Age and AgeCodes are stored in second field onwards, the subroutine will be called as per following statement: P_MakeAndShowQryFlipFlop "T_Age", 2 With this call, the query "Q_FlipFlop" will get built programmatically, duly taking into account the up-to-date contents of data table. It takes care of any variations in number of columns meant for holding AgeCodes and final results are in four column format (AgeGroup, Count of Code 1, Count of Code 2, Count of Code 3) as sought by you. Note - Suggested line of action is based upon tests conducted on Access 2003 desktop (Access 2000 file format). This has to be kept in view while adapting to SQL server. Best wishes, A.D.Tejpal ------------ ' Crosstab FlipFlop Query (named Q_FlipFlop) ' Sample subroutine for building the query ' and displaying its results '====================================== Sub P_MakeAndShowQryFlipFlop( _ TableName As String, _ PosOfFirstAgeGrpField As Long) ' Transforms table contents from cross tab ' to normal and then back to new version ' of crosstab. The results are displayed in ' prgrammatically built query "Q_FlipFlop" On Error Resume Next Dim db As DAO.Database Dim tdf As TableDef Dim Qst As String, Cnt As Long Dim Fnm As String Set db = CurrentDb Set tdf = db.TableDefs(TableName) Qst = "TRANSFORM Count(Q1.GrpCode) AS " & _ "CodeCount " & _ "SELECT Q1.AgeGrp FROM [" For Cnt = PosOfFirstAgeGrpField - 1 To tdf.Fields.Count - 1 Qst = Qst & IIf(Cnt > PosOfFirstAgeGrpField - 1, _ " UNION ALL ", "") Fnm = tdf.Fields(Cnt).Name Qst = Qst & "SELECT " & Chr(39) & Fnm & _ Chr(39) & " AS AgeGrp, " & Fnm & _ " AS GrpCode FROM " & TableName Next Qst = Qst & "]. AS Q1 " & _ "WHERE Not IsNull(Q1.GrpCode) " & _ "GROUP BY Q1.AgeGrp " & _ "PIVOT 'C_' & Q1.[GrpCode];" ' Delete target query if already existing ' and then re-create the same as per above SQL DoCmd.DeleteObject acQuery, "Q_FlipFlop" db.CreateQueryDef "Q_FlipFlop", Qst db.QueryDefs.Refresh ' Display results DoCmd.OpenQuery "Q_FlipFlop" Set tdf = Nothing Set db = Nothing On Error GoTo 0 End Sub '====================================== ----- Original Message ----- From: jwcolby To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' ; 'Discussion concerning MS SQL Server' Sent: Saturday, February 02, 2008 22:17 Subject: [AccessD] SQL Server Pivot I have a bunch of columns that break out ages into bands. For example: Presence_of_adults_age_65_74_specific Presence_of_adults_age_55_64_specific Presence_of_adults_age_45_54_specific etc Each column has codes 1,2,3 I need counts of each column, for each value column Cnt1 Cnt2 Cnt3 65_74 45 3 23 55_64 103 48 211 45_54 20 1 49 etc I think the Pivot statement is going to do that for me but I can't seem to wrap my mind around the syntax. Can anyone point me to a web page that clearly explains this or simply write a SQL statement that does this? Thanks John W. Colby Colby Consulting www.ColbyConsulting.com From fuller.artful at gmail.com Sun Feb 3 13:19:36 2008 From: fuller.artful at gmail.com (Arthur Fuller) Date: Sun, 3 Feb 2008 14:19:36 -0500 Subject: [AccessD] Generate DDL statements from an Access db? Message-ID: <29f585dd0802031119q503a8569t272de3b68a5c2785@mail.gmail.com> Does anyone know of a program that will generate CREATE TABLE statements from an Access database? My import and export wizard seems to be broken and the disks are off-site. I would just do it by hand but several of the tables have lots of columns. TIA, Arthur From drawbridgej at sympatico.ca Sun Feb 3 15:27:59 2008 From: drawbridgej at sympatico.ca (Jack and Pat) Date: Sun, 3 Feb 2008 16:27:59 -0500 Subject: [AccessD] Generate DDL statements from an Access db? In-Reply-To: <29f585dd0802031119q503a8569t272de3b68a5c2785@mail.gmail.com> References: <29f585dd0802031119q503a8569t272de3b68a5c2785@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <000001c866ab$a8e6fc10$6501a8c0@home6399619597> Arthur, I have a module called DataDictionary. It has procs DocumentTables, FieldType and fjListPrimaryKeys. It creates a table called Data_Dictionary. I use it for basic documentation of Table fields/columns. I have attached the code as ForArthur.bas I also found a link to an Access DDL generator -- says it can be tried before buying. http://www.download3k.com/Software-Development/Editors-Tools/Download-DBWScr ipt.html I haven't tried it nor used it. I don't know if either of these is helpful, but that's what I have that may assist. jack -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Arthur Fuller Sent: Sunday, February 03, 2008 2:20 PM To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving; Discussion concerning MS SQL Server Subject: [AccessD] Generate DDL statements from an Access db? Does anyone know of a program that will generate CREATE TABLE statements from an Access database? My import and export wizard seems to be broken and the disks are off-site. I would just do it by hand but several of the tables have lots of columns. TIA, Arthur -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From fuller.artful at gmail.com Sun Feb 3 15:50:02 2008 From: fuller.artful at gmail.com (Arthur Fuller) Date: Sun, 3 Feb 2008 16:50:02 -0500 Subject: [AccessD] Generate DDL statements from an Access db? In-Reply-To: <000001c866ab$a8e6fc10$6501a8c0@home6399619597> References: <29f585dd0802031119q503a8569t272de3b68a5c2785@mail.gmail.com> <000001c866ab$a8e6fc10$6501a8c0@home6399619597> Message-ID: <29f585dd0802031350l31fc8f59j6d72d07b886662de@mail.gmail.com> Thanks a lot, Jack. I'll take both for a spin and see what I get. A. On Sun, Feb 3, 2008 at 4:27 PM, Jack and Pat wrote: > Arthur, > > I have a module called DataDictionary. It has procs DocumentTables, > FieldType and fjListPrimaryKeys. It creates a table called > Data_Dictionary. > I use it for basic documentation of Table fields/columns. > > I have attached the code as ForArthur.bas > > I also found a link to an Access DDL generator -- says it can be tried > before buying. > > http://www.download3k.com/Software-Development/Editors-Tools/Download-DBWScr > ipt.html > I haven't tried it nor used it. > > I don't know if either of these is helpful, but that's what I have that > may > assist. > > jack > > From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com Sun Feb 3 16:16:54 2008 From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (jwcolby) Date: Sun, 3 Feb 2008 17:16:54 -0500 Subject: [AccessD] SQL Server Pivot In-Reply-To: <29f585dd0802021243mad072c7l6dfe20a29d2e4399@mail.gmail.com> References: <001101c865bb$5b31a8d0$0401a8c0@M90><001801c865cc$e4588780$0401a8c0@M90> <29f585dd0802021243mad072c7l6dfe20a29d2e4399@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <002701c866b2$7c622dc0$0401a8c0@M90> The data is already at least 5 years old! I have pointed this out and asked if we want to try to move the data into a single field. John W. Colby Colby Consulting www.ColbyConsulting.com -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Arthur Fuller Sent: Saturday, February 02, 2008 3:44 PM To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving Subject: Re: [AccessD] SQL Server Pivot >> This method of storing the Age is just a royal PITA. Not to mention the boundary conditions: within a year, people in the 45-54 category will move to the 55-64 group. An unenviable task. A. -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com Sun Feb 3 16:24:09 2008 From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (jwcolby) Date: Sun, 3 Feb 2008 17:24:09 -0500 Subject: [AccessD] SQL Server Pivot In-Reply-To: <006201c86697$fe7f9c90$c257a27a@personald6374f> References: <001101c865bb$5b31a8d0$0401a8c0@M90> <006201c86697$fe7f9c90$c257a27a@personald6374f> Message-ID: <002901c866b3$7f292080$0401a8c0@M90> AD. Thanks for that, though I am not sure that it is going to work simply because this is on SQL Server and contains 50 million records. I was trying to discover how to do something like this inside of SQL Server because I have to tie it to where clauses, and then do this routinely, like every week or even day. John W. Colby Colby Consulting www.ColbyConsulting.com -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of A.D.Tejpal Sent: Sunday, February 03, 2008 2:06 PM To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving Cc: A.D.Tejpal Subject: Re: [AccessD] SQL Server Pivot John, The requirement presented by you would involve crosstab flip flop. Generic sample subroutine named P_MakeAndShowQryFlipFlop(), as given below, transforms table contents from cross tab to normal and then back to new version of crosstab. The results are displayed in programmatically built query "Q_FlipFlop" The subroutine needs two arguments as follows: (a) Name of table (b) Ordinal position of first field storing age codes. (Imp: It is to be ensured that all fields thereafter are only those with age codes) For example, if the data table is named T_Age and AgeCodes are stored in second field onwards, the subroutine will be called as per following statement: P_MakeAndShowQryFlipFlop "T_Age", 2 With this call, the query "Q_FlipFlop" will get built programmatically, duly taking into account the up-to-date contents of data table. It takes care of any variations in number of columns meant for holding AgeCodes and final results are in four column format (AgeGroup, Count of Code 1, Count of Code 2, Count of Code 3) as sought by you. Note - Suggested line of action is based upon tests conducted on Access 2003 desktop (Access 2000 file format). This has to be kept in view while adapting to SQL server. Best wishes, A.D.Tejpal ------------ ' Crosstab FlipFlop Query (named Q_FlipFlop) ' Sample subroutine for building the query ' and displaying its results '====================================== Sub P_MakeAndShowQryFlipFlop( _ TableName As String, _ PosOfFirstAgeGrpField As Long) ' Transforms table contents from cross tab ' to normal and then back to new version ' of crosstab. The results are displayed in ' prgrammatically built query "Q_FlipFlop" On Error Resume Next Dim db As DAO.Database Dim tdf As TableDef Dim Qst As String, Cnt As Long Dim Fnm As String Set db = CurrentDb Set tdf = db.TableDefs(TableName) Qst = "TRANSFORM Count(Q1.GrpCode) AS " & _ "CodeCount " & _ "SELECT Q1.AgeGrp FROM [" For Cnt = PosOfFirstAgeGrpField - 1 To tdf.Fields.Count - 1 Qst = Qst & IIf(Cnt > PosOfFirstAgeGrpField - 1, _ " UNION ALL ", "") Fnm = tdf.Fields(Cnt).Name Qst = Qst & "SELECT " & Chr(39) & Fnm & _ Chr(39) & " AS AgeGrp, " & Fnm & _ " AS GrpCode FROM " & TableName Next Qst = Qst & "]. AS Q1 " & _ "WHERE Not IsNull(Q1.GrpCode) " & _ "GROUP BY Q1.AgeGrp " & _ "PIVOT 'C_' & Q1.[GrpCode];" ' Delete target query if already existing ' and then re-create the same as per above SQL DoCmd.DeleteObject acQuery, "Q_FlipFlop" db.CreateQueryDef "Q_FlipFlop", Qst db.QueryDefs.Refresh ' Display results DoCmd.OpenQuery "Q_FlipFlop" Set tdf = Nothing Set db = Nothing On Error GoTo 0 End Sub '====================================== ----- Original Message ----- From: jwcolby To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' ; 'Discussion concerning MS SQL Server' Sent: Saturday, February 02, 2008 22:17 Subject: [AccessD] SQL Server Pivot I have a bunch of columns that break out ages into bands. For example: Presence_of_adults_age_65_74_specific Presence_of_adults_age_55_64_specific Presence_of_adults_age_45_54_specific etc Each column has codes 1,2,3 I need counts of each column, for each value column Cnt1 Cnt2 Cnt3 65_74 45 3 23 55_64 103 48 211 45_54 20 1 49 etc I think the Pivot statement is going to do that for me but I can't seem to wrap my mind around the syntax. Can anyone point me to a web page that clearly explains this or simply write a SQL statement that does this? Thanks John W. Colby Colby Consulting www.ColbyConsulting.com -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From newsgrps at dalyn.co.nz Sun Feb 3 19:06:56 2008 From: newsgrps at dalyn.co.nz (David Emerson) Date: Mon, 04 Feb 2008 14:06:56 +1300 Subject: [AccessD] Faxing reports from Access Message-ID: <20080204010420.EBOI18083.fep03.xtra.co.nz@Dalyn.dalyn.co.nz> I have a client who want to fax two reports to their clients (a cover sheet, and a second report). They have WinFax 10 Pro installed but I am having problems getting technical information on how to use it. Does anyone have any code for sending Faxes using WinFax? Regards David Emerson Dalyn Software Ltd Wellington, New Zealand From wdhindman at dejpolsystems.com Sun Feb 3 22:00:15 2008 From: wdhindman at dejpolsystems.com (William Hindman) Date: Sun, 3 Feb 2008 23:00:15 -0500 Subject: [AccessD] Faxing reports from Access References: <20080204010420.EBOI18083.fep03.xtra.co.nz@Dalyn.dalyn.co.nz> Message-ID: <004001c866e2$73a05ab0$d67e6c4c@jisshowsbs.local> David ...Symantec's Winfax Pro SDK has sample code to link Access and WinFaxPro 10 http://www.symantec.com/techsupp/home_homeoffice/products/winfax/winfax10/files.html ...but do note the sdk is dated 1998 and no longer supported by Symantec. ...I dumped WinFax in favor of ZetaFax quite a while back ...it may cost your client a bit to change but, imnsho, you and they will be much happier with the end result and the ease of integration with Access. William ----- Original Message ----- From: "David Emerson" To: Sent: Sunday, February 03, 2008 8:06 PM Subject: [AccessD] Faxing reports from Access >I have a client who want to fax two reports to their clients (a cover > sheet, and a second report). They have WinFax 10 Pro installed but I > am having problems getting technical information on how to use it. > > Does anyone have any code for sending Faxes using WinFax? > > Regards > > David Emerson > Dalyn Software Ltd > Wellington, New Zealand > > -- > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From actebs at actebs.com.au Sun Feb 3 22:09:54 2008 From: actebs at actebs.com.au (ACTEBS) Date: Mon, 4 Feb 2008 15:09:54 +1100 Subject: [AccessD] Open Query Within Form Message-ID: <000801c866e3$cbc2a6c0$1b08a8c0@theblues.local> Hi Everyone, Just wondering whether it is possible to open a query within a form? Strange request I know, but a simple Datasheet form won't work because the field names for the query are changed programmatically on fly each time the user changes the criteria. For example he/she might choose data between Jan 2007 to Dec 2007 and I recreate the query on the fly with field names Jan 07, Feb 07, Mar 07 etc etc I hope that makes sense. Any help will be most appreciated. Regards Vlad From newsgrps at dalyn.co.nz Sun Feb 3 22:18:47 2008 From: newsgrps at dalyn.co.nz (David Emerson) Date: Mon, 04 Feb 2008 17:18:47 +1300 Subject: [AccessD] Faxing reports from Access In-Reply-To: <004001c866e2$73a05ab0$d67e6c4c@jisshowsbs.local> References: <20080204010420.EBOI18083.fep03.xtra.co.nz@Dalyn.dalyn.co.nz> <004001c866e2$73a05ab0$d67e6c4c@jisshowsbs.local> Message-ID: <20080204041729.GWYE9910.fep05.xtra.co.nz@Dalyn.dalyn.co.nz> Thanks William, David At 4/02/2008, you wrote: >David > >...Symantec's Winfax Pro SDK has sample code to link Access and WinFaxPro 10 >http://www.symantec.com/techsupp/home_homeoffice/products/winfax/winfax10/files.html >...but do note the sdk is dated 1998 and no longer supported by Symantec. > >...I dumped WinFax in favor of ZetaFax quite a while back ...it may cost >your client a bit to change but, imnsho, you and they will be much happier >with the end result and the ease of integration with Access. > >William > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "David Emerson" >To: >Sent: Sunday, February 03, 2008 8:06 PM >Subject: [AccessD] Faxing reports from Access > > > >I have a client who want to fax two reports to their clients (a cover > > sheet, and a second report). They have WinFax 10 Pro installed but I > > am having problems getting technical information on how to use it. > > > > Does anyone have any code for sending Faxes using WinFax? > > > > Regards > > > > David Emerson > > Dalyn Software Ltd > > Wellington, New Zealand > > > > -- > > AccessD mailing list > > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > >-- >AccessD mailing list >AccessD at databaseadvisors.com >http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd >Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From miscellany at mvps.org Sun Feb 3 22:50:47 2008 From: miscellany at mvps.org (Steve Schapel) Date: Mon, 04 Feb 2008 17:50:47 +1300 Subject: [AccessD] Faxing reports from Access In-Reply-To: <20080204010420.EBOI18083.fep03.xtra.co.nz@Dalyn.dalyn.co.nz> References: <20080204010420.EBOI18083.fep03.xtra.co.nz@Dalyn.dalyn.co.nz> Message-ID: <47A699A7.8060906@mvps.org> David, I have used this, and it worked well - couple of years ago now though... http://www.groupacg.com/ACGWFL.htm Regards Steve David Emerson wrote: > I have a client who want to fax two reports to their clients (a cover > sheet, and a second report). They have WinFax 10 Pro installed but I > am having problems getting technical information on how to use it. > > Does anyone have any code for sending Faxes using WinFax? > > Regards > > David Emerson > Dalyn Software Ltd > Wellington, New Zealand > From newsgrps at dalyn.co.nz Sun Feb 3 23:07:26 2008 From: newsgrps at dalyn.co.nz (David Emerson) Date: Mon, 04 Feb 2008 18:07:26 +1300 Subject: [AccessD] Faxing reports from Access In-Reply-To: <47A699A7.8060906@mvps.org> References: <20080204010420.EBOI18083.fep03.xtra.co.nz@Dalyn.dalyn.co.nz> <47A699A7.8060906@mvps.org> Message-ID: <20080204050533.JDPO9910.fep05.xtra.co.nz@Dalyn.dalyn.co.nz> Thanks Steve. At 4/02/2008, you wrote: >David, > >I have used this, and it worked well - couple of years ago now though... >http://www.groupacg.com/ACGWFL.htm > >Regards >Steve > > >David Emerson wrote: > > I have a client who want to fax two reports to their clients (a cover > > sheet, and a second report). They have WinFax 10 Pro installed but I > > am having problems getting technical information on how to use it. > > > > Does anyone have any code for sending Faxes using WinFax? > > > > Regards > > > > David Emerson > > Dalyn Software Ltd > > Wellington, New Zealand > > >-- >AccessD mailing list >AccessD at databaseadvisors.com >http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd >Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From Gustav at cactus.dk Mon Feb 4 01:02:00 2008 From: Gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock) Date: Mon, 04 Feb 2008 08:02:00 +0100 Subject: [AccessD] Open Query Within Form Message-ID: Hi Vlad I think what most do is to reassign the ControlSource for the TextBoxes (named sequentially) in the (sub)form - DataView or not - to the field names of the recordset from the query, as this: intFields = Fields.Count - 1 For intField = 0 To intFields Me.Control("PrefixOfControlName" & CStr(intField)).ControlSource = rst.Fields(intField).Name Next You may need to have the control sources initially to be empty. /gustav >>> actebs at actebs.com.au 04-02-2008 05:09:54 >>> Hi Everyone, Just wondering whether it is possible to open a query within a form? Strange request I know, but a simple Datasheet form won't work because the field names for the query are changed programmatically on fly each time the user changes the criteria. For example he/she might choose data between Jan 2007 to Dec 2007 and I recreate the query on the fly with field names Jan 07, Feb 07, Mar 07 etc etc I hope that makes sense. Any help will be most appreciated. Regards Vlad From wdhindman at dejpolsystems.com Mon Feb 4 08:15:53 2008 From: wdhindman at dejpolsystems.com (William Hindman) Date: Mon, 4 Feb 2008 09:15:53 -0500 Subject: [AccessD] Open Query Within Form References: <000801c866e3$cbc2a6c0$1b08a8c0@theblues.local> Message-ID: <002201c86738$740ba990$d67e6c4c@jisshowsbs.local> Vlad ...take a look at http://www.mile50.com/access/index.htm where Nyberg has a couple of Access samples w/source that do what I think you're looking for. William ----- Original Message ----- From: "ACTEBS" To: Sent: Sunday, February 03, 2008 11:09 PM Subject: [AccessD] Open Query Within Form > Hi Everyone, > > Just wondering whether it is possible to open a query within a form? > Strange > request I know, but a simple Datasheet form won't work because the field > names for the query are changed programmatically on fly each time the user > changes the criteria. For example he/she might choose data between Jan > 2007 > to Dec 2007 and I recreate the query on the fly with field names Jan 07, > Feb > 07, Mar 07 etc etc > > I hope that makes sense. Any help will be most appreciated. > > Regards > > Vlad > -- > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com Mon Feb 4 08:48:35 2008 From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (jwcolby) Date: Mon, 4 Feb 2008 09:48:35 -0500 Subject: [AccessD] Automation of word Message-ID: <005601c8673d$054b3520$0401a8c0@M90> I have a rather elaborate mail merge system in a client's system. ATM I open the document, merge the date and the user takes over, filling in things that they need to fill in, then printing and closing the word instance. It works well enough however I do not control the save of the document, and very occasionally Word does not close cleanly, leaving a hidden instance open WITH the associated merge text document open as well, preventing the next merge from occurring. I need to know if it is possible to open word in a mode that prevents it from being closed by the user? I would then have the user go back to my application and press a button saying that they succeeded in doing the mail merge. I would save the document and close Word down. Can I prevent the user from closing Word? John W. Colby Colby Consulting www.ColbyConsulting.com From JHewson at karta.com Mon Feb 4 09:14:16 2008 From: JHewson at karta.com (Jim Hewson) Date: Mon, 4 Feb 2008 09:14:16 -0600 Subject: [AccessD] Automation of word References: <005601c8673d$054b3520$0401a8c0@M90> Message-ID: <1C877227AE9F2A4BB20BABE94325D15B0B3941@exchange.Karta.com> John, I'm not sure I would even attempt to control another's machine to ensure Word doesn't close. There might be a few irate users, if you do that. I would probably give the user a message indicating that closing Word would not create the desired results and then ask the user if that their intent. Maybe put the message is something like yellow letters on a red background so they couldn't mistake it for a standard MS message. Jim jhewson at karta.com -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of jwcolby Sent: Monday, February 04, 2008 8:49 AM To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' Subject: [AccessD] Automation of word I have a rather elaborate mail merge system in a client's system. ATM I open the document, merge the date and the user takes over, filling in things that they need to fill in, then printing and closing the word instance. It works well enough however I do not control the save of the document, and very occasionally Word does not close cleanly, leaving a hidden instance open WITH the associated merge text document open as well, preventing the next merge from occurring. I need to know if it is possible to open word in a mode that prevents it from being closed by the user? I would then have the user go back to my application and press a button saying that they succeeded in doing the mail merge. I would save the document and close Word down. Can I prevent the user from closing Word? John W. Colby Colby Consulting www.ColbyConsulting.com -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From rockysmolin at bchacc.com Mon Feb 4 09:31:34 2008 From: rockysmolin at bchacc.com (Rocky Smolin at Beach Access Software) Date: Mon, 4 Feb 2008 07:31:34 -0800 Subject: [AccessD] Automation of word In-Reply-To: <005601c8673d$054b3520$0401a8c0@M90> References: <005601c8673d$054b3520$0401a8c0@M90> Message-ID: <001a01c86743$06babbf0$0301a8c0@HAL9005> John: Can't help you with that but I'm curious to know the code you're using to do the merge. I had a merge function and it used to work. Now, for reasons I have yet to be able to figure out it doesn't. My code to open the document and merge is only a few lines: Dim objWordDoc As Word.Document Dim objWord As Object Set objWord = CreateObject("Word.Application") With objWord 'Visible is set True in order to view the operation. .Visible = True .Documents.Open (strDocName) .ActiveDocument.MailMerge.Destination = wdSendToNewDocument .ActiveDocument.MailMerge.SuppressBlankLines = True .ActiveDocument.MailMerge.Execute End With It starts word and opens the document just fine but at .ActiveDocument.MailMerge.Destination = wdSendToNewDocument I get requested object not available. How are you opening and merging your document? TIA Rocky -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of jwcolby Sent: Monday, February 04, 2008 6:49 AM To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' Subject: [AccessD] Automation of word I have a rather elaborate mail merge system in a client's system. ATM I open the document, merge the date and the user takes over, filling in things that they need to fill in, then printing and closing the word instance. It works well enough however I do not control the save of the document, and very occasionally Word does not close cleanly, leaving a hidden instance open WITH the associated merge text document open as well, preventing the next merge from occurring. I need to know if it is possible to open word in a mode that prevents it from being closed by the user? I would then have the user go back to my application and press a button saying that they succeeded in doing the mail merge. I would save the document and close Word down. Can I prevent the user from closing Word? John W. Colby Colby Consulting www.ColbyConsulting.com -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.19.19/1257 - Release Date: 2/3/2008 5:49 PM From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com Mon Feb 4 09:40:24 2008 From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (jwcolby) Date: Mon, 4 Feb 2008 10:40:24 -0500 Subject: [AccessD] Multipl instances of Access (same application) Message-ID: <006601c86744$42d82e00$0401a8c0@M90> I have users opening the application multiple times, for valid reasons. I do not understand what happens with the lock file in this case. Does anyone know what happens when an FE is opened multiple times? John W. Colby Colby Consulting www.ColbyConsulting.com From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com Mon Feb 4 09:42:20 2008 From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (jwcolby) Date: Mon, 4 Feb 2008 10:42:20 -0500 Subject: [AccessD] Automation of word In-Reply-To: <1C877227AE9F2A4BB20BABE94325D15B0B3941@exchange.Karta.com> References: <005601c8673d$054b3520$0401a8c0@M90> <1C877227AE9F2A4BB20BABE94325D15B0B3941@exchange.Karta.com> Message-ID: <006701c86744$87ee0820$0401a8c0@M90> Jim, I think I have a pointer to Word. Obviously Word can be opened already, and I am not entirely sure what happens in all the various cases but my intent is to grab a pointer and use that to keep my instance open, and to control the close later on. John W. Colby Colby Consulting www.ColbyConsulting.com -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim Hewson Sent: Monday, February 04, 2008 10:14 AM To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving Subject: Re: [AccessD] Automation of word John, I'm not sure I would even attempt to control another's machine to ensure Word doesn't close. There might be a few irate users, if you do that. I would probably give the user a message indicating that closing Word would not create the desired results and then ask the user if that their intent. Maybe put the message is something like yellow letters on a red background so they couldn't mistake it for a standard MS message. Jim jhewson at karta.com -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of jwcolby Sent: Monday, February 04, 2008 8:49 AM To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' Subject: [AccessD] Automation of word I have a rather elaborate mail merge system in a client's system. ATM I open the document, merge the date and the user takes over, filling in things that they need to fill in, then printing and closing the word instance. It works well enough however I do not control the save of the document, and very occasionally Word does not close cleanly, leaving a hidden instance open WITH the associated merge text document open as well, preventing the next merge from occurring. I need to know if it is possible to open word in a mode that prevents it from being closed by the user? I would then have the user go back to my application and press a button saying that they succeeded in doing the mail merge. I would save the document and close Word down. Can I prevent the user from closing Word? John W. Colby Colby Consulting www.ColbyConsulting.com -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com Mon Feb 4 10:15:34 2008 From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (jwcolby) Date: Mon, 4 Feb 2008 11:15:34 -0500 Subject: [AccessD] Automation of word In-Reply-To: <001a01c86743$06babbf0$0301a8c0@HAL9005> References: <005601c8673d$054b3520$0401a8c0@M90> <001a01c86743$06babbf0$0301a8c0@HAL9005> Message-ID: <008001c86749$2c17a600$0401a8c0@M90> Rocky, In fact the method I am using is to export the data into t text file. The word document is then "hard coded" to pull in data from that text document. I just open the word document and it "just does it". Of course I have to successfully export the data to the text file first. John W. Colby Colby Consulting www.ColbyConsulting.com -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Rocky Smolin at Beach Access Software Sent: Monday, February 04, 2008 10:32 AM To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' Subject: Re: [AccessD] Automation of word John: Can't help you with that but I'm curious to know the code you're using to do the merge. I had a merge function and it used to work. Now, for reasons I have yet to be able to figure out it doesn't. My code to open the document and merge is only a few lines: Dim objWordDoc As Word.Document Dim objWord As Object Set objWord = CreateObject("Word.Application") With objWord 'Visible is set True in order to view the operation. .Visible = True .Documents.Open (strDocName) .ActiveDocument.MailMerge.Destination = wdSendToNewDocument .ActiveDocument.MailMerge.SuppressBlankLines = True .ActiveDocument.MailMerge.Execute End With It starts word and opens the document just fine but at .ActiveDocument.MailMerge.Destination = wdSendToNewDocument I get requested object not available. How are you opening and merging your document? TIA Rocky -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of jwcolby Sent: Monday, February 04, 2008 6:49 AM To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' Subject: [AccessD] Automation of word I have a rather elaborate mail merge system in a client's system. ATM I open the document, merge the date and the user takes over, filling in things that they need to fill in, then printing and closing the word instance. It works well enough however I do not control the save of the document, and very occasionally Word does not close cleanly, leaving a hidden instance open WITH the associated merge text document open as well, preventing the next merge from occurring. I need to know if it is possible to open word in a mode that prevents it from being closed by the user? I would then have the user go back to my application and press a button saying that they succeeded in doing the mail merge. I would save the document and close Word down. Can I prevent the user from closing Word? John W. Colby Colby Consulting www.ColbyConsulting.com -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.19.19/1257 - Release Date: 2/3/2008 5:49 PM -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From bbruen at unwired.com.au Mon Feb 4 14:39:30 2008 From: bbruen at unwired.com.au (Bruce Bruen) Date: Tue, 5 Feb 2008 07:39:30 +1100 Subject: [AccessD] Automation of word In-Reply-To: <005601c8673d$054b3520$0401a8c0@M90> References: <005601c8673d$054b3520$0401a8c0@M90> Message-ID: <200802050739.33150.bbruen@unwired.com.au> On Tuesday 05 February 2008 01:48, jwcolby wrote: > I have a rather elaborate mail merge system in a client's system. ATM I > open the document, merge the date and the user takes over, filling in > things that they need to fill in, then printing and closing the word > instance. It works well enough however I do not control the save of the > document, and very occasionally Word does not close cleanly, leaving a > hidden instance open WITH the associated merge text document open as well, > preventing the next merge from occurring. > > I need to know if it is possible to open word in a mode that prevents it > from being closed by the user? I would then have the user go back to my > application and press a button saying that they succeeded in doing the mail > merge. I would save the document and close Word down. > > Can I prevent the user from closing Word? > > John W. Colby > Colby Consulting > www.ColbyConsulting.com John, IIRC, the solution may lie in the three "auto" macros you can use in the doument template that is used. Its some years since I delved in that diretion, and as I have no longer an M$ based system I can't indicate any more pointers than that I recall that one is automatically invoked on the document being closed. hth -- regards Bruce From kp at sdsonline.net Mon Feb 4 16:52:11 2008 From: kp at sdsonline.net (Kath Pelletti) Date: Tue, 5 Feb 2008 09:52:11 +1100 Subject: [AccessD] Faxing reports from Access References: <20080204010420.EBOI18083.fep03.xtra.co.nz@Dalyn.dalyn.co.nz> Message-ID: <014e01c86780$951e12b0$6401a8c0@DELLAPTOP> David - There was an article in Woody's Access Watch about faxing from Access. I will forward the Part 2 of it to you offline - Kath ----- Original Message ----- From: "David Emerson" To: Sent: Monday, February 04, 2008 12:06 PM Subject: [AccessD] Faxing reports from Access >I have a client who want to fax two reports to their clients (a cover > sheet, and a second report). They have WinFax 10 Pro installed but I > am having problems getting technical information on how to use it. > > Does anyone have any code for sending Faxes using WinFax? > > Regards > > David Emerson > Dalyn Software Ltd > Wellington, New Zealand > > -- > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > From newsgrps at dalyn.co.nz Mon Feb 4 18:01:13 2008 From: newsgrps at dalyn.co.nz (David Emerson) Date: Tue, 05 Feb 2008 13:01:13 +1300 Subject: [AccessD] Faxing reports from Access In-Reply-To: <014e01c86780$951e12b0$6401a8c0@DELLAPTOP> References: <20080204010420.EBOI18083.fep03.xtra.co.nz@Dalyn.dalyn.co.nz> <014e01c86780$951e12b0$6401a8c0@DELLAPTOP> Message-ID: <20080204235917.POLZ18083.fep03.xtra.co.nz@Dalyn.dalyn.co.nz> Thanks Kath, I have that article and was going to use it, but then found that the server that it would be run on doesn't have a modem or phone attached to it :'( They do have a couple of printers that are available, and these do have fax software but neither of them seem to enable external commands from within other applications like WinFax does :-( Will keep everyone posted. Regards David At 5/02/2008, you wrote: >David - There was an article in Woody's Access Watch about faxing from >Access. I will forward the Part 2 of it to you offline - > >Kath > > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "David Emerson" >To: >Sent: Monday, February 04, 2008 12:06 PM >Subject: [AccessD] Faxing reports from Access > > > >I have a client who want to fax two reports to their clients (a cover > > sheet, and a second report). They have WinFax 10 Pro installed but I > > am having problems getting technical information on how to use it. > > > > Does anyone have any code for sending Faxes using WinFax? > > > > Regards > > > > David Emerson > > Dalyn Software Ltd > > Wellington, New Zealand > > > > -- > > AccessD mailing list > > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > > > >-- >AccessD mailing list >AccessD at databaseadvisors.com >http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd >Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From kp at sdsonline.net Mon Feb 4 18:16:05 2008 From: kp at sdsonline.net (Kath Pelletti) Date: Tue, 5 Feb 2008 11:16:05 +1100 Subject: [AccessD] Faxing reports from Access References: <20080204010420.EBOI18083.fep03.xtra.co.nz@Dalyn.dalyn.co.nz><014e01c86780$951e12b0$6401a8c0@DELLAPTOP> <20080204235917.POLZ18083.fep03.xtra.co.nz@Dalyn.dalyn.co.nz> Message-ID: <000501c8678c$4d28a1d0$6401a8c0@DELLAPTOP> Great if you can keep us posted - the next app I am writing (2003) will also require faxing from the db. Kath ----- Original Message ----- From: "David Emerson" To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving" Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2008 11:01 AM Subject: Re: [AccessD] Faxing reports from Access > Thanks Kath, > > I have that article and was going to use it, but then found that the > server that it would be run on doesn't have a modem or phone attached to > it :'( > > They do have a couple of printers that are available, and these do > have fax software but neither of them seem to enable external > commands from within other applications like WinFax does :-( > > Will keep everyone posted. > > Regards > > David > > > At 5/02/2008, you wrote: >>David - There was an article in Woody's Access Watch about faxing from >>Access. I will forward the Part 2 of it to you offline - >> >>Kath >> >> >>----- Original Message ----- >>From: "David Emerson" >>To: >>Sent: Monday, February 04, 2008 12:06 PM >>Subject: [AccessD] Faxing reports from Access >> >> >> >I have a client who want to fax two reports to their clients (a cover >> > sheet, and a second report). They have WinFax 10 Pro installed but I >> > am having problems getting technical information on how to use it. >> > >> > Does anyone have any code for sending Faxes using WinFax? >> > >> > Regards >> > >> > David Emerson >> > Dalyn Software Ltd >> > Wellington, New Zealand >> > >> > -- >> > AccessD mailing list >> > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com >> > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd >> > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com >> > >> >> >>-- >>AccessD mailing list >>AccessD at databaseadvisors.com >>http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd >>Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > -- > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > From barry.herring at att.net Mon Feb 4 18:19:27 2008 From: barry.herring at att.net (Barry G. Herring) Date: Mon, 4 Feb 2008 18:19:27 -0600 Subject: [AccessD] Faxing reports from Access In-Reply-To: <000501c8678c$4d28a1d0$6401a8c0@DELLAPTOP> References: <20080204010420.EBOI18083.fep03.xtra.co.nz@Dalyn.dalyn.co.nz><014e01c86780$951e12b0$6401a8c0@DELLAPTOP><20080204235917.POLZ18083.fep03.xtra.co.nz@Dalyn.dalyn.co.nz> <000501c8678c$4d28a1d0$6401a8c0@DELLAPTOP> Message-ID: <001801c8678c$c56bae30$4101a8c0@D9Q51F61> I have a client that is interested in faxing also, so will be monitoring this thread to its conclusion. Barry -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Kath Pelletti Sent: Monday, February 04, 2008 6:16 PM To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving Subject: Re: [AccessD] Faxing reports from Access Great if you can keep us posted - the next app I am writing (2003) will also require faxing from the db. Kath ----- Original Message ----- From: "David Emerson" To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving" Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2008 11:01 AM Subject: Re: [AccessD] Faxing reports from Access > Thanks Kath, > > I have that article and was going to use it, but then found that the > server that it would be run on doesn't have a modem or phone attached to > it :'( > > They do have a couple of printers that are available, and these do > have fax software but neither of them seem to enable external > commands from within other applications like WinFax does :-( > > Will keep everyone posted. > > Regards > > David > > > At 5/02/2008, you wrote: >>David - There was an article in Woody's Access Watch about faxing from >>Access. I will forward the Part 2 of it to you offline - >> >>Kath >> >> >>----- Original Message ----- >>From: "David Emerson" >>To: >>Sent: Monday, February 04, 2008 12:06 PM >>Subject: [AccessD] Faxing reports from Access >> >> >> >I have a client who want to fax two reports to their clients (a cover >> > sheet, and a second report). They have WinFax 10 Pro installed but I >> > am having problems getting technical information on how to use it. >> > >> > Does anyone have any code for sending Faxes using WinFax? >> > >> > Regards >> > >> > David Emerson >> > Dalyn Software Ltd >> > Wellington, New Zealand >> > >> > -- >> > AccessD mailing list >> > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com >> > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd >> > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com >> > >> >> >>-- >>AccessD mailing list >>AccessD at databaseadvisors.com >>http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd >>Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > -- > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.19.19/1257 - Release Date: 2/3/2008 5:49 PM No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.19.19/1257 - Release Date: 2/3/2008 5:49 PM From andy at minstersystems.co.uk Tue Feb 5 01:31:59 2008 From: andy at minstersystems.co.uk (Andy Lacey) Date: Tue, 5 Feb 2008 07:31:59 -0000 Subject: [AccessD] Faxing reports from Access In-Reply-To: <001801c8678c$c56bae30$4101a8c0@D9Q51F61> Message-ID: <00bb01c867c9$31746c20$3097d355@minster33c3r25> I use Zetafax from Equinox http://www.equisys.com/index.html . It's not cheap but if you're an Outlook/Exchange user it's so simple because all you do is send an "email" but to a fax number. Zetafax picks it up and faxes it. You do need a fax modem on the Exchange server though of course. -- Andy Lacey http://www.minstersystems.co.uk >-----Original Message----- >From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com >[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of >Barry G. Herring >Sent: 05 February 2008 00:19 >To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' >Subject: Re: [AccessD] Faxing reports from Access > > >I have a client that is interested in faxing also, so will be >monitoring this thread to its conclusion. > >Barry > > >-----Original Message----- >From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com >[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of >Kath Pelletti >Sent: Monday, February 04, 2008 6:16 PM >To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving >Subject: Re: [AccessD] Faxing reports from Access > >Great if you can keep us posted - the next app I am writing >(2003) will also > >require faxing from the db. > >Kath > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "David Emerson" >To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving" > >Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2008 11:01 AM >Subject: Re: [AccessD] Faxing reports from Access > > >> Thanks Kath, >> >> I have that article and was going to use it, but then found that the >> server that it would be run on doesn't have a modem or phone >attached >> to it :'( >> >> They do have a couple of printers that are available, and these do >> have fax software but neither of them seem to enable >external commands >> from within other applications like WinFax does :-( >> >> Will keep everyone posted. >> >> Regards >> >> David >> >> >> At 5/02/2008, you wrote: >>>David - There was an article in Woody's Access Watch about >faxing from >>>Access. I will forward the Part 2 of it to you offline - >>> >>>Kath >>> >>> >>>----- Original Message ----- >>>From: "David Emerson" >>>To: >>>Sent: Monday, February 04, 2008 12:06 PM >>>Subject: [AccessD] Faxing reports from Access >>> >>> >>> >I have a client who want to fax two reports to their clients (a >>> >cover sheet, and a second report). They have WinFax 10 Pro >>> >installed but I am having problems getting technical >information on >>> >how to use it. >>> > >>> > Does anyone have any code for sending Faxes using WinFax? >>> > >>> > Regards >>> > >>> > David Emerson >>> > Dalyn Software Ltd >>> > Wellington, New Zealand >>> > >>> > -- >>> > AccessD mailing list >>> > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com >>> > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd >>> > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com >>> > >>> >>> >>>-- >>>AccessD mailing list >>>AccessD at databaseadvisors.com >>>http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd >>>Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com >> >> -- >> AccessD mailing list >> AccessD at databaseadvisors.com >> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd >> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com >> > > >-- >AccessD mailing list >AccessD at databaseadvisors.com >http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd >Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > >No virus found in this incoming message. >Checked by AVG Free Edition. >Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.19.19/1257 - Release >Date: 2/3/2008 >5:49 PM > > >No virus found in this outgoing message. >Checked by AVG Free Edition. >Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.19.19/1257 - Release >Date: 2/3/2008 >5:49 PM > > >-- >AccessD mailing list >AccessD at databaseadvisors.com >http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd >Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > From max.wanadoo at gmail.com Tue Feb 5 04:37:46 2008 From: max.wanadoo at gmail.com (Max Wanadoo) Date: Tue, 5 Feb 2008 10:37:46 -0000 Subject: [AccessD] Automation of word In-Reply-To: <008001c86749$2c17a600$0401a8c0@M90> References: <005601c8673d$054b3520$0401a8c0@M90><001a01c86743$06babbf0$0301a8c0@HAL9005> <008001c86749$2c17a600$0401a8c0@M90> Message-ID: <001b01c867e3$2663c910$8119fea9@LTVM> You can open Word and set it to background printing and then keep it open until printing is completed and then close it down. Is that what you are after? Max -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of jwcolby Sent: Monday, February 04, 2008 4:16 PM To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' Subject: Re: [AccessD] Automation of word Rocky, In fact the method I am using is to export the data into t text file. The word document is then "hard coded" to pull in data from that text document. I just open the word document and it "just does it". Of course I have to successfully export the data to the text file first. John W. Colby Colby Consulting www.ColbyConsulting.com -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Rocky Smolin at Beach Access Software Sent: Monday, February 04, 2008 10:32 AM To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' Subject: Re: [AccessD] Automation of word John: Can't help you with that but I'm curious to know the code you're using to do the merge. I had a merge function and it used to work. Now, for reasons I have yet to be able to figure out it doesn't. My code to open the document and merge is only a few lines: Dim objWordDoc As Word.Document Dim objWord As Object Set objWord = CreateObject("Word.Application") With objWord 'Visible is set True in order to view the operation. .Visible = True .Documents.Open (strDocName) .ActiveDocument.MailMerge.Destination = wdSendToNewDocument .ActiveDocument.MailMerge.SuppressBlankLines = True .ActiveDocument.MailMerge.Execute End With It starts word and opens the document just fine but at .ActiveDocument.MailMerge.Destination = wdSendToNewDocument I get requested object not available. How are you opening and merging your document? TIA Rocky -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of jwcolby Sent: Monday, February 04, 2008 6:49 AM To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' Subject: [AccessD] Automation of word I have a rather elaborate mail merge system in a client's system. ATM I open the document, merge the date and the user takes over, filling in things that they need to fill in, then printing and closing the word instance. It works well enough however I do not control the save of the document, and very occasionally Word does not close cleanly, leaving a hidden instance open WITH the associated merge text document open as well, preventing the next merge from occurring. I need to know if it is possible to open word in a mode that prevents it from being closed by the user? I would then have the user go back to my application and press a button saying that they succeeded in doing the mail merge. I would save the document and close Word down. Can I prevent the user from closing Word? John W. Colby Colby Consulting www.ColbyConsulting.com -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.19.19/1257 - Release Date: 2/3/2008 5:49 PM -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From wdhindman at dejpolsystems.com Tue Feb 5 07:13:44 2008 From: wdhindman at dejpolsystems.com (William Hindman) Date: Tue, 5 Feb 2008 08:13:44 -0500 Subject: [AccessD] Faxing reports from Access References: <00bb01c867c9$31746c20$3097d355@minster33c3r25> Message-ID: <000901c867f8$f0124a60$d67e6c4c@jisshowsbs.local> ...Zetafax also works quite well without using Exchange ...just point to a table or query with an fax number source field and go ...I tried a number of fax "solutions" before going with Zeta ...once you get the phone number formats right, even the dumbest of users can use it without further support ...and every few months I get a call from their customer support asking if there are any problems they can help me with ...no sales pitch, just a short call ...and they actually know who to put you in touch with if you do have a how-do-I question. William ----- Original Message ----- From: "Andy Lacey" To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'" Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2008 2:31 AM Subject: Re: [AccessD] Faxing reports from Access >I use Zetafax from Equinox http://www.equisys.com/index.html . It's not > cheap but if you're an Outlook/Exchange user it's so simple because all > you > do is send an "email" but to a fax number. Zetafax picks it up and faxes > it. > You do need a fax modem on the Exchange server though of course. > > -- Andy Lacey > http://www.minstersystems.co.uk > > >>-----Original Message----- >>From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com >>[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of >>Barry G. Herring >>Sent: 05 February 2008 00:19 >>To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' >>Subject: Re: [AccessD] Faxing reports from Access >> >> >>I have a client that is interested in faxing also, so will be >>monitoring this thread to its conclusion. >> >>Barry >> >> >>-----Original Message----- >>From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com >>[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of >>Kath Pelletti >>Sent: Monday, February 04, 2008 6:16 PM >>To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving >>Subject: Re: [AccessD] Faxing reports from Access >> >>Great if you can keep us posted - the next app I am writing >>(2003) will also >> >>require faxing from the db. >> >>Kath >> >>----- Original Message ----- >>From: "David Emerson" >>To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving" >> >>Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2008 11:01 AM >>Subject: Re: [AccessD] Faxing reports from Access >> >> >>> Thanks Kath, >>> >>> I have that article and was going to use it, but then found that the >>> server that it would be run on doesn't have a modem or phone >>attached >>> to it :'( >>> >>> They do have a couple of printers that are available, and these do >>> have fax software but neither of them seem to enable >>external commands >>> from within other applications like WinFax does :-( >>> >>> Will keep everyone posted. >>> >>> Regards >>> >>> David >>> >>> >>> At 5/02/2008, you wrote: >>>>David - There was an article in Woody's Access Watch about >>faxing from >>>>Access. I will forward the Part 2 of it to you offline - >>>> >>>>Kath >>>> >>>> >>>>----- Original Message ----- >>>>From: "David Emerson" >>>>To: >>>>Sent: Monday, February 04, 2008 12:06 PM >>>>Subject: [AccessD] Faxing reports from Access >>>> >>>> >>>> >I have a client who want to fax two reports to their clients (a >>>> >cover sheet, and a second report). They have WinFax 10 Pro >>>> >installed but I am having problems getting technical >>information on >>>> >how to use it. >>>> > >>>> > Does anyone have any code for sending Faxes using WinFax? >>>> > >>>> > Regards >>>> > >>>> > David Emerson >>>> > Dalyn Software Ltd >>>> > Wellington, New Zealand >>>> > >>>> > -- >>>> > AccessD mailing list >>>> > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com >>>> > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd >>>> > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com >>>> > >>>> >>>> >>>>-- >>>>AccessD mailing list >>>>AccessD at databaseadvisors.com >>>>http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd >>>>Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com >>> >>> -- >>> AccessD mailing list >>> AccessD at databaseadvisors.com >>> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd >>> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com >>> >> >> >>-- >>AccessD mailing list >>AccessD at databaseadvisors.com >>http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd >>Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com >> >>No virus found in this incoming message. >>Checked by AVG Free Edition. >>Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.19.19/1257 - Release >>Date: 2/3/2008 >>5:49 PM >> >> >>No virus found in this outgoing message. >>Checked by AVG Free Edition. >>Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.19.19/1257 - Release >>Date: 2/3/2008 >>5:49 PM >> >> >>-- >>AccessD mailing list >>AccessD at databaseadvisors.com >>http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd >>Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com >> >> > > > > -- > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com Tue Feb 5 07:25:10 2008 From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (jwcolby) Date: Tue, 5 Feb 2008 08:25:10 -0500 Subject: [AccessD] Automation of word In-Reply-To: <001b01c867e3$2663c910$8119fea9@LTVM> References: <005601c8673d$054b3520$0401a8c0@M90><001a01c86743$06babbf0$0301a8c0@HAL9005><008001c86749$2c17a600$0401a8c0@M90> <001b01c867e3$2663c910$8119fea9@LTVM> Message-ID: <00af01c867fa$89035100$0401a8c0@M90> Max, In this case the user selects from one of dozens of different documents specific to a type of disability claim for a specific disability insurance company. These documents are things like request for medical records, notice of claim status, legal requests to lawyers, what have you. So the user selects a specific document, then the people that will get a copy of the document, who the "to" is, and who are CCs etc. They then click a "merge" button and the data required for that specific document is dumped to the text file, Word is opened with that specific document loaded. Word pulls the data from the text file and then MAY throw up prompts to the user to fill in other data that is not in tables, but rather is in the claim processor's head (comment to the claimant etc). Once the claim processor has finished and is happy with the document, (s)he prints the document and closes word. Thus the process is a little more complex than just "open and print a document". What I am trying to accomplish now is to reliably get the document saved after being filled in, as well as reliably get Word closed. This application is call center software. My client, the user of the application, has invested in a system to scan all paper and get it into electronic format. The claim is a paper file, the document just created is printed, but the paper is never touched after being placed in the folder. All processing of the claim is done by looking at the document scans. The entire claim is dumped to individual DVDs and those DVDs are sent to their client (large insurance companies). The paper is sent to dead storage, it has to exist for legal reasons but it never has to be actually looked at. So... ATM the process of SAVING the document relies on the user to actually do so. The document HAS to be saved to a specific folder in order for the scan software to "see it". That software will open all documents in a specific folder and import it into the document storage system, index it by claim number etc. But if the document does not get saved, then it does not get into the electronic version of the claim. ATM they take the paper copy just printed, place it into a scanner and manually scan the paper into the system but that is labor intensive. They do a thousand documents a day, and they want to be able to reliably save the document into this special folder and just let the doc storage do its thing without having to go through that manual scan step. Additionally closing of the WORD application depends on the user. I want to gain control of the save and the close process. Thus I want to lock Word open and force the user to click a button in Access so that my program can save the document close Word and release my pointer to word, log that I saved the document to doc storage etc. John W. Colby Colby Consulting www.ColbyConsulting.com -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Max Wanadoo Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2008 5:38 AM To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' Subject: Re: [AccessD] Automation of word You can open Word and set it to background printing and then keep it open until printing is completed and then close it down. Is that what you are after? Max -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of jwcolby Sent: Monday, February 04, 2008 4:16 PM To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' Subject: Re: [AccessD] Automation of word Rocky, In fact the method I am using is to export the data into t text file. The word document is then "hard coded" to pull in data from that text document. I just open the word document and it "just does it". Of course I have to successfully export the data to the text file first. John W. Colby Colby Consulting www.ColbyConsulting.com -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Rocky Smolin at Beach Access Software Sent: Monday, February 04, 2008 10:32 AM To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' Subject: Re: [AccessD] Automation of word John: Can't help you with that but I'm curious to know the code you're using to do the merge. I had a merge function and it used to work. Now, for reasons I have yet to be able to figure out it doesn't. My code to open the document and merge is only a few lines: Dim objWordDoc As Word.Document Dim objWord As Object Set objWord = CreateObject("Word.Application") With objWord 'Visible is set True in order to view the operation. .Visible = True .Documents.Open (strDocName) .ActiveDocument.MailMerge.Destination = wdSendToNewDocument .ActiveDocument.MailMerge.SuppressBlankLines = True .ActiveDocument.MailMerge.Execute End With It starts word and opens the document just fine but at .ActiveDocument.MailMerge.Destination = wdSendToNewDocument I get requested object not available. How are you opening and merging your document? TIA Rocky -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of jwcolby Sent: Monday, February 04, 2008 6:49 AM To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' Subject: [AccessD] Automation of word I have a rather elaborate mail merge system in a client's system. ATM I open the document, merge the date and the user takes over, filling in things that they need to fill in, then printing and closing the word instance. It works well enough however I do not control the save of the document, and very occasionally Word does not close cleanly, leaving a hidden instance open WITH the associated merge text document open as well, preventing the next merge from occurring. I need to know if it is possible to open word in a mode that prevents it from being closed by the user? I would then have the user go back to my application and press a button saying that they succeeded in doing the mail merge. I would save the document and close Word down. Can I prevent the user from closing Word? John W. Colby Colby Consulting www.ColbyConsulting.com -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.19.19/1257 - Release Date: 2/3/2008 5:49 PM -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From wdhindman at dejpolsystems.com Tue Feb 5 07:29:57 2008 From: wdhindman at dejpolsystems.com (William Hindman) Date: Tue, 5 Feb 2008 08:29:57 -0500 Subject: [AccessD] Automation of word References: <005601c8673d$054b3520$0401a8c0@M90> <001a01c86743$06babbf0$0301a8c0@HAL9005> Message-ID: <001d01c867fb$33ee8120$d67e6c4c@jisshowsbs.local> Rocky ...this has proven to be ultra reliable for me from A97 through A2K3 Function ShowBadges() Dim objWord As Word.Document Set objWord = GetObject("F:\Document Masters\Exhibitor Documents\ExhibitorBadges.doc", "Word.Document") ' Make Word visible. objWord.Application.Visible = True ' Set the mail merge data source as the EMSReports database. objWord.MailMerge.OpenDataSource _ Name:="C:\Program Files\EMSReports\emsreports.mdb", _ LinkToSource:=True, _ Connection:="QUERY qryEMSBadgeFlag", _ SQLStatement:="Select * from [qryEMSBadgeFlag]" ' Execute the mail merge. objWord.MailMerge.Execute End Function ...since the reason I usually use Word instead of reports is so that the user can independently modify the results, I don't try to control the Word document once the merge is completed ...if I had JC's users, I'd be contemplating colbyization. ...hth William ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rocky Smolin at Beach Access Software" To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'" Sent: Monday, February 04, 2008 10:31 AM Subject: Re: [AccessD] Automation of word > John: > > Can't help you with that but I'm curious to know the code you're using to > do > the merge. I had a merge function and it used to work. Now, for reasons > I > have yet to be able to figure out it doesn't. My code to open the > document > and merge is only a few lines: > > Dim objWordDoc As Word.Document > Dim objWord As Object > > Set objWord = CreateObject("Word.Application") > > With objWord > 'Visible is set True in order to view the operation. > .Visible = True > .Documents.Open (strDocName) > .ActiveDocument.MailMerge.Destination = wdSendToNewDocument > .ActiveDocument.MailMerge.SuppressBlankLines = True > .ActiveDocument.MailMerge.Execute > End With > > It starts word and opens the document just fine but at > .ActiveDocument.MailMerge.Destination = wdSendToNewDocument I get > requested > object not available. > > How are you opening and merging your document? > > TIA > > Rocky > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of jwcolby > Sent: Monday, February 04, 2008 6:49 AM > To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' > Subject: [AccessD] Automation of word > > I have a rather elaborate mail merge system in a client's system. ATM I > open the document, merge the date and the user takes over, filling in > things > that they need to fill in, then printing and closing the word instance. > It > works well enough however I do not control the save of the document, and > very occasionally Word does not close cleanly, leaving a hidden instance > open WITH the associated merge text document open as well, preventing the > next merge from occurring. > > I need to know if it is possible to open word in a mode that prevents it > from being closed by the user? I would then have the user go back to my > application and press a button saying that they succeeded in doing the > mail > merge. I would save the document and close Word down. > > Can I prevent the user from closing Word? > > John W. Colby > Colby Consulting > www.ColbyConsulting.com > > -- > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.19.19/1257 - Release Date: 2/3/2008 > 5:49 PM > > > -- > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From wdhindman at dejpolsystems.com Tue Feb 5 07:37:36 2008 From: wdhindman at dejpolsystems.com (William Hindman) Date: Tue, 5 Feb 2008 08:37:36 -0500 Subject: [AccessD] Automation of word References: <005601c8673d$054b3520$0401a8c0@M90><001a01c86743$06babbf0$0301a8c0@HAL9005><008001c86749$2c17a600$0401a8c0@M90><001b01c867e3$2663c910$8119fea9@LTVM> <00af01c867fa$89035100$0401a8c0@M90> Message-ID: <002301c867fc$45738fc0$d67e6c4c@jisshowsbs.local> JC ...have you considered handling the doc save functionality with vba in the Word document template itself (post merge) rather than trying to do it from Access. William ----- Original Message ----- From: "jwcolby" To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'" Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2008 8:25 AM Subject: Re: [AccessD] Automation of word > Max, > > In this case the user selects from one of dozens of different documents > specific to a type of disability claim for a specific disability insurance > company. These documents are things like request for medical records, > notice of claim status, legal requests to lawyers, what have you. So the > user selects a specific document, then the people that will get a copy of > the document, who the "to" is, and who are CCs etc. They then click a > "merge" button and the data required for that specific document is dumped > to > the text file, Word is opened with that specific document loaded. Word > pulls the data from the text file and then MAY throw up prompts to the > user > to fill in other data that is not in tables, but rather is in the claim > processor's head (comment to the claimant etc). > > Once the claim processor has finished and is happy with the document, > (s)he > prints the document and closes word. Thus the process is a little more > complex than just "open and print a document". > > What I am trying to accomplish now is to reliably get the document saved > after being filled in, as well as reliably get Word closed. This > application is call center software. My client, the user of the > application, has invested in a system to scan all paper and get it into > electronic format. The claim is a paper file, the document just created > is > printed, but the paper is never touched after being placed in the folder. > All processing of the claim is done by looking at the document scans. The > entire claim is dumped to individual DVDs and those DVDs are sent to their > client (large insurance companies). The paper is sent to dead storage, it > has to exist for legal reasons but it never has to be actually looked at. > > So... ATM the process of SAVING the document relies on the user to > actually > do so. The document HAS to be saved to a specific folder in order for the > scan software to "see it". That software will open all documents in a > specific folder and import it into the document storage system, index it > by > claim number etc. But if the document does not get saved, then it does > not > get into the electronic version of the claim. ATM they take the paper > copy > just printed, place it into a scanner and manually scan the paper into the > system but that is labor intensive. They do a thousand documents a day, > and > they want to be able to reliably save the document into this special > folder > and just let the doc storage do its thing without having to go through > that > manual scan step. > > Additionally closing of the WORD application depends on the user. I want > to > gain control of the save and the close process. Thus I want to lock Word > open and force the user to click a button in Access so that my program can > save the document close Word and release my pointer to word, log that I > saved the document to doc storage etc. > > > John W. Colby > Colby Consulting > www.ColbyConsulting.com > -----Original Message----- > From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Max Wanadoo > Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2008 5:38 AM > To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' > Subject: Re: [AccessD] Automation of word > > You can open Word and set it to background printing and then keep it open > until printing is completed and then close it down. > Is that what you are after? > Max > > > -----Original Message----- > From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of jwcolby > Sent: Monday, February 04, 2008 4:16 PM > To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' > Subject: Re: [AccessD] Automation of word > > Rocky, > > In fact the method I am using is to export the data into t text file. The > word document is then "hard coded" to pull in data from that text > document. > I just open the word document and it "just does it". Of course I have to > successfully export the data to the text file first. > > John W. Colby > Colby Consulting > www.ColbyConsulting.com > -----Original Message----- > From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Rocky Smolin at > Beach Access Software > Sent: Monday, February 04, 2008 10:32 AM > To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' > Subject: Re: [AccessD] Automation of word > > John: > > Can't help you with that but I'm curious to know the code you're using to > do > the merge. I had a merge function and it used to work. Now, for reasons > I > have yet to be able to figure out it doesn't. My code to open the > document > and merge is only a few lines: > > Dim objWordDoc As Word.Document > Dim objWord As Object > > Set objWord = CreateObject("Word.Application") > > With objWord > 'Visible is set True in order to view the operation. > .Visible = True > .Documents.Open (strDocName) > .ActiveDocument.MailMerge.Destination = wdSendToNewDocument > .ActiveDocument.MailMerge.SuppressBlankLines = True > .ActiveDocument.MailMerge.Execute > End With > > It starts word and opens the document just fine but at > .ActiveDocument.MailMerge.Destination = wdSendToNewDocument I get > requested > object not available. > > How are you opening and merging your document? > > TIA > > Rocky > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of jwcolby > Sent: Monday, February 04, 2008 6:49 AM > To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' > Subject: [AccessD] Automation of word > > I have a rather elaborate mail merge system in a client's system. ATM I > open the document, merge the date and the user takes over, filling in > things > that they need to fill in, then printing and closing the word instance. > It > works well enough however I do not control the save of the document, and > very occasionally Word does not close cleanly, leaving a hidden instance > open WITH the associated merge text document open as well, preventing the > next merge from occurring. > > I need to know if it is possible to open word in a mode that prevents it > from being closed by the user? I would then have the user go back to my > application and press a button saying that they succeeded in doing the > mail > merge. I would save the document and close Word down. > > Can I prevent the user from closing Word? > > John W. Colby > Colby Consulting > www.ColbyConsulting.com > > -- > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.19.19/1257 - Release Date: 2/3/2008 > 5:49 PM > > > -- > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > -- > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > > -- > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > -- > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From fuller.artful at gmail.com Tue Feb 5 07:50:05 2008 From: fuller.artful at gmail.com (Arthur Fuller) Date: Tue, 5 Feb 2008 08:50:05 -0500 Subject: [AccessD] A2k7 problems Message-ID: <29f585dd0802050550i402884feud950b21ea67fc51a@mail.gmail.com> I've got A2K7 installed and am experiencing something very strange. Almost as soon as I enter the code window Access crashes. I have been able to get away with a few keystrokes, sometimes even an entire line, and have discovered that if I write a chunk of code in my text editor then paste it in and quickly save, sometimes I can get away with that too. But in general I crash and burn almost immediately in any code window. I've applied the service pack and run the diagnostic tool with no joy. Anyone got any idea what is causing this and how I might fix it? TIA, Arthur From rockysmolin at bchacc.com Tue Feb 5 07:56:16 2008 From: rockysmolin at bchacc.com (Rocky Smolin at Beach Access Software) Date: Tue, 5 Feb 2008 05:56:16 -0800 Subject: [AccessD] Automation of word In-Reply-To: <001d01c867fb$33ee8120$d67e6c4c@jisshowsbs.local> References: <005601c8673d$054b3520$0401a8c0@M90><001a01c86743$06babbf0$0301a8c0@HAL9005> <001d01c867fb$33ee8120$d67e6c4c@jisshowsbs.local> Message-ID: <00cf01c867fe$e1500110$0301a8c0@HAL9005> Thanks. I'll give it a try. Rocky -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of William Hindman Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2008 5:30 AM To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving Subject: Re: [AccessD] Automation of word Rocky ...this has proven to be ultra reliable for me from A97 through A2K3 Function ShowBadges() Dim objWord As Word.Document Set objWord = GetObject("F:\Document Masters\Exhibitor Documents\ExhibitorBadges.doc", "Word.Document") ' Make Word visible. objWord.Application.Visible = True ' Set the mail merge data source as the EMSReports database. objWord.MailMerge.OpenDataSource _ Name:="C:\Program Files\EMSReports\emsreports.mdb", _ LinkToSource:=True, _ Connection:="QUERY qryEMSBadgeFlag", _ SQLStatement:="Select * from [qryEMSBadgeFlag]" ' Execute the mail merge. objWord.MailMerge.Execute End Function ...since the reason I usually use Word instead of reports is so that the user can independently modify the results, I don't try to control the Word document once the merge is completed ...if I had JC's users, I'd be contemplating colbyization. ...hth William ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rocky Smolin at Beach Access Software" To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'" Sent: Monday, February 04, 2008 10:31 AM Subject: Re: [AccessD] Automation of word > John: > > Can't help you with that but I'm curious to know the code you're using to > do > the merge. I had a merge function and it used to work. Now, for reasons > I > have yet to be able to figure out it doesn't. My code to open the > document > and merge is only a few lines: > > Dim objWordDoc As Word.Document > Dim objWord As Object > > Set objWord = CreateObject("Word.Application") > > With objWord > 'Visible is set True in order to view the operation. > .Visible = True > .Documents.Open (strDocName) > .ActiveDocument.MailMerge.Destination = wdSendToNewDocument > .ActiveDocument.MailMerge.SuppressBlankLines = True > .ActiveDocument.MailMerge.Execute > End With > > It starts word and opens the document just fine but at > .ActiveDocument.MailMerge.Destination = wdSendToNewDocument I get > requested > object not available. > > How are you opening and merging your document? > > TIA > > Rocky > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of jwcolby > Sent: Monday, February 04, 2008 6:49 AM > To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' > Subject: [AccessD] Automation of word > > I have a rather elaborate mail merge system in a client's system. ATM I > open the document, merge the date and the user takes over, filling in > things > that they need to fill in, then printing and closing the word instance. > It > works well enough however I do not control the save of the document, and > very occasionally Word does not close cleanly, leaving a hidden instance > open WITH the associated merge text document open as well, preventing the > next merge from occurring. > > I need to know if it is possible to open word in a mode that prevents it > from being closed by the user? I would then have the user go back to my > application and press a button saying that they succeeded in doing the > mail > merge. I would save the document and close Word down. > > Can I prevent the user from closing Word? > > John W. Colby > Colby Consulting > www.ColbyConsulting.com > > -- > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.19.19/1257 - Release Date: 2/3/2008 > 5:49 PM > > > -- > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.19.20/1259 - Release Date: 2/4/2008 8:42 PM From Johncliviger at aol.com Tue Feb 5 08:02:59 2008 From: Johncliviger at aol.com (Johncliviger at aol.com) Date: Tue, 5 Feb 2008 09:02:59 EST Subject: [AccessD] OT: A book on Vb.net 2005 Windows Forms Message-ID: Hi List Can anyone recommend a book on Vb.net 2005 Windows Forms kind regards johnc From max.wanadoo at gmail.com Tue Feb 5 08:19:50 2008 From: max.wanadoo at gmail.com (Max Wanadoo) Date: Tue, 5 Feb 2008 14:19:50 -0000 Subject: [AccessD] Automation of word In-Reply-To: <00af01c867fa$89035100$0401a8c0@M90> References: <005601c8673d$054b3520$0401a8c0@M90><001a01c86743$06babbf0$0301a8c0@HAL9005><008001c86749$2c17a600$0401a8c0@M90><001b01c867e3$2663c910$8119fea9@LTVM> <00af01c867fa$89035100$0401a8c0@M90> Message-ID: <002001c86802$2c3715d0$8119fea9@LTVM> Well, I can say that I do virtually all of that as well with the one exception of user adding in comments during print time, but it would be easy to implement that. when I get time later, I will go through my routine and strip away the bits that don't lend themself to what you are doing and then post it up. It is a very long routine which is why I was just posting bits out of it. It is based on Bookmarks in Word dot (not docs, but template dot files). There is a master Word Doc which people copy, give a new name to and add the text in and put any other bookmarks in (from a series of known bookmark names that the this system understands). The calling form (but could be a rst) is selected from a Combo (which letter do you want to send type thing). The user can d/click on the selected letter and make changes if they want to the DOT document. there are also clicks for paragraphs to be added in, postscripts, donations, etc, etc. A whole range of stuff. When the module is called, it is passed the form name. From that it will know what sort of data is available and will open a NEW INSTANCE of word object. It will then create a new document based on the selected DOT document and populate the bookmarks. It will then create a new name which is part system generated and part data orientated. If a word document exists with the same name, it will append a sequential number and loop until it gets a unique name. It then saves this. It then background prints and stays there until the printing is completed (couple of millisecs typically) and then closes the INSTANCE of the WORD Object. A usesr can hage multiple word documents open if they wish, no problem as we are using our own INSTANCE of the object. The options are to Just Print it, Preview it, Cancel it. The document name is then written to a linked table (PersonID and LetterID). it can be retrieved at any time, previewed again, deleted etc - up to you). All letters we send out are done via the database so that we know exactly what was sent, who sent it, etc. Obviously, I can't post up the whole suite but the above should give you a general feel. Do you want the Word module posted or sent private (or not at all)? Max -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of jwcolby Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2008 1:25 PM To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' Subject: Re: [AccessD] Automation of word Max, In this case the user selects from one of dozens of different documents specific to a type of disability claim for a specific disability insurance company. These documents are things like request for medical records, notice of claim status, legal requests to lawyers, what have you. So the user selects a specific document, then the people that will get a copy of the document, who the "to" is, and who are CCs etc. They then click a "merge" button and the data required for that specific document is dumped to the text file, Word is opened with that specific document loaded. Word pulls the data from the text file and then MAY throw up prompts to the user to fill in other data that is not in tables, but rather is in the claim processor's head (comment to the claimant etc). Once the claim processor has finished and is happy with the document, (s)he prints the document and closes word. Thus the process is a little more complex than just "open and print a document". What I am trying to accomplish now is to reliably get the document saved after being filled in, as well as reliably get Word closed. This application is call center software. My client, the user of the application, has invested in a system to scan all paper and get it into electronic format. The claim is a paper file, the document just created is printed, but the paper is never touched after being placed in the folder. All processing of the claim is done by looking at the document scans. The entire claim is dumped to individual DVDs and those DVDs are sent to their client (large insurance companies). The paper is sent to dead storage, it has to exist for legal reasons but it never has to be actually looked at. So... ATM the process of SAVING the document relies on the user to actually do so. The document HAS to be saved to a specific folder in order for the scan software to "see it". That software will open all documents in a specific folder and import it into the document storage system, index it by claim number etc. But if the document does not get saved, then it does not get into the electronic version of the claim. ATM they take the paper copy just printed, place it into a scanner and manually scan the paper into the system but that is labor intensive. They do a thousand documents a day, and they want to be able to reliably save the document into this special folder and just let the doc storage do its thing without having to go through that manual scan step. Additionally closing of the WORD application depends on the user. I want to gain control of the save and the close process. Thus I want to lock Word open and force the user to click a button in Access so that my program can save the document close Word and release my pointer to word, log that I saved the document to doc storage etc. John W. Colby Colby Consulting www.ColbyConsulting.com -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Max Wanadoo Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2008 5:38 AM To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' Subject: Re: [AccessD] Automation of word You can open Word and set it to background printing and then keep it open until printing is completed and then close it down. Is that what you are after? Max -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of jwcolby Sent: Monday, February 04, 2008 4:16 PM To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' Subject: Re: [AccessD] Automation of word Rocky, In fact the method I am using is to export the data into t text file. The word document is then "hard coded" to pull in data from that text document. I just open the word document and it "just does it". Of course I have to successfully export the data to the text file first. John W. Colby Colby Consulting www.ColbyConsulting.com -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Rocky Smolin at Beach Access Software Sent: Monday, February 04, 2008 10:32 AM To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' Subject: Re: [AccessD] Automation of word John: Can't help you with that but I'm curious to know the code you're using to do the merge. I had a merge function and it used to work. Now, for reasons I have yet to be able to figure out it doesn't. My code to open the document and merge is only a few lines: Dim objWordDoc As Word.Document Dim objWord As Object Set objWord = CreateObject("Word.Application") With objWord 'Visible is set True in order to view the operation. .Visible = True .Documents.Open (strDocName) .ActiveDocument.MailMerge.Destination = wdSendToNewDocument .ActiveDocument.MailMerge.SuppressBlankLines = True .ActiveDocument.MailMerge.Execute End With It starts word and opens the document just fine but at .ActiveDocument.MailMerge.Destination = wdSendToNewDocument I get requested object not available. How are you opening and merging your document? TIA Rocky -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of jwcolby Sent: Monday, February 04, 2008 6:49 AM To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' Subject: [AccessD] Automation of word I have a rather elaborate mail merge system in a client's system. ATM I open the document, merge the date and the user takes over, filling in things that they need to fill in, then printing and closing the word instance. It works well enough however I do not control the save of the document, and very occasionally Word does not close cleanly, leaving a hidden instance open WITH the associated merge text document open as well, preventing the next merge from occurring. I need to know if it is possible to open word in a mode that prevents it from being closed by the user? I would then have the user go back to my application and press a button saying that they succeeded in doing the mail merge. I would save the document and close Word down. Can I prevent the user from closing Word? John W. Colby Colby Consulting www.ColbyConsulting.com -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.19.19/1257 - Release Date: 2/3/2008 5:49 PM -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com Tue Feb 5 08:26:28 2008 From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (jwcolby) Date: Tue, 5 Feb 2008 09:26:28 -0500 Subject: [AccessD] Automation of word In-Reply-To: <002301c867fc$45738fc0$d67e6c4c@jisshowsbs.local> References: <005601c8673d$054b3520$0401a8c0@M90><001a01c86743$06babbf0$0301a8c0@HAL9005><008001c86749$2c17a600$0401a8c0@M90><001b01c867e3$2663c910$8119fea9@LTVM><00af01c867fa$89035100$0401a8c0@M90> <002301c867fc$45738fc0$d67e6c4c@jisshowsbs.local> Message-ID: <00b301c86803$19432300$0401a8c0@M90> William, Good idea. No I haven't considered that but I suppose I need to. The question really is can I push code into a word doc like I can into an excel spreadsheet. The problem is that there are hundreds of different docs and they are created mostly by a specific person at the client's office. I would need to make sure that the code got into any document which I could only reliably do by pushing the code in as the document template opened. John W. Colby Colby Consulting www.ColbyConsulting.com -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of William Hindman Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2008 8:38 AM To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving Subject: Re: [AccessD] Automation of word JC ...have you considered handling the doc save functionality with vba in the Word document template itself (post merge) rather than trying to do it from Access. William ----- Original Message ----- From: "jwcolby" To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'" Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2008 8:25 AM Subject: Re: [AccessD] Automation of word > Max, > > In this case the user selects from one of dozens of different documents > specific to a type of disability claim for a specific disability insurance > company. These documents are things like request for medical records, > notice of claim status, legal requests to lawyers, what have you. So the > user selects a specific document, then the people that will get a copy of > the document, who the "to" is, and who are CCs etc. They then click a > "merge" button and the data required for that specific document is dumped > to > the text file, Word is opened with that specific document loaded. Word > pulls the data from the text file and then MAY throw up prompts to the > user > to fill in other data that is not in tables, but rather is in the claim > processor's head (comment to the claimant etc). > > Once the claim processor has finished and is happy with the document, > (s)he > prints the document and closes word. Thus the process is a little more > complex than just "open and print a document". > > What I am trying to accomplish now is to reliably get the document saved > after being filled in, as well as reliably get Word closed. This > application is call center software. My client, the user of the > application, has invested in a system to scan all paper and get it into > electronic format. The claim is a paper file, the document just created > is > printed, but the paper is never touched after being placed in the folder. > All processing of the claim is done by looking at the document scans. The > entire claim is dumped to individual DVDs and those DVDs are sent to their > client (large insurance companies). The paper is sent to dead storage, it > has to exist for legal reasons but it never has to be actually looked at. > > So... ATM the process of SAVING the document relies on the user to > actually > do so. The document HAS to be saved to a specific folder in order for the > scan software to "see it". That software will open all documents in a > specific folder and import it into the document storage system, index it > by > claim number etc. But if the document does not get saved, then it does > not > get into the electronic version of the claim. ATM they take the paper > copy > just printed, place it into a scanner and manually scan the paper into the > system but that is labor intensive. They do a thousand documents a day, > and > they want to be able to reliably save the document into this special > folder > and just let the doc storage do its thing without having to go through > that > manual scan step. > > Additionally closing of the WORD application depends on the user. I want > to > gain control of the save and the close process. Thus I want to lock Word > open and force the user to click a button in Access so that my program can > save the document close Word and release my pointer to word, log that I > saved the document to doc storage etc. > > > John W. Colby > Colby Consulting > www.ColbyConsulting.com > -----Original Message----- > From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Max Wanadoo > Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2008 5:38 AM > To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' > Subject: Re: [AccessD] Automation of word > > You can open Word and set it to background printing and then keep it open > until printing is completed and then close it down. > Is that what you are after? > Max > > > -----Original Message----- > From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of jwcolby > Sent: Monday, February 04, 2008 4:16 PM > To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' > Subject: Re: [AccessD] Automation of word > > Rocky, > > In fact the method I am using is to export the data into t text file. The > word document is then "hard coded" to pull in data from that text > document. > I just open the word document and it "just does it". Of course I have to > successfully export the data to the text file first. > > John W. Colby > Colby Consulting > www.ColbyConsulting.com > -----Original Message----- > From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Rocky Smolin at > Beach Access Software > Sent: Monday, February 04, 2008 10:32 AM > To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' > Subject: Re: [AccessD] Automation of word > > John: > > Can't help you with that but I'm curious to know the code you're using to > do > the merge. I had a merge function and it used to work. Now, for reasons > I > have yet to be able to figure out it doesn't. My code to open the > document > and merge is only a few lines: > > Dim objWordDoc As Word.Document > Dim objWord As Object > > Set objWord = CreateObject("Word.Application") > > With objWord > 'Visible is set True in order to view the operation. > .Visible = True > .Documents.Open (strDocName) > .ActiveDocument.MailMerge.Destination = wdSendToNewDocument > .ActiveDocument.MailMerge.SuppressBlankLines = True > .ActiveDocument.MailMerge.Execute > End With > > It starts word and opens the document just fine but at > .ActiveDocument.MailMerge.Destination = wdSendToNewDocument I get > requested > object not available. > > How are you opening and merging your document? > > TIA > > Rocky > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of jwcolby > Sent: Monday, February 04, 2008 6:49 AM > To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' > Subject: [AccessD] Automation of word > > I have a rather elaborate mail merge system in a client's system. ATM I > open the document, merge the date and the user takes over, filling in > things > that they need to fill in, then printing and closing the word instance. > It > works well enough however I do not control the save of the document, and > very occasionally Word does not close cleanly, leaving a hidden instance > open WITH the associated merge text document open as well, preventing the > next merge from occurring. > > I need to know if it is possible to open word in a mode that prevents it > from being closed by the user? I would then have the user go back to my > application and press a button saying that they succeeded in doing the > mail > merge. I would save the document and close Word down. > > Can I prevent the user from closing Word? > > John W. Colby > Colby Consulting > www.ColbyConsulting.com > > -- > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.19.19/1257 - Release Date: 2/3/2008 > 5:49 PM > > > -- > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > -- > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > > -- > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > -- > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com Tue Feb 5 08:49:04 2008 From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (jwcolby) Date: Tue, 5 Feb 2008 09:49:04 -0500 Subject: [AccessD] Automation of word In-Reply-To: <002001c86802$2c3715d0$8119fea9@LTVM> References: <005601c8673d$054b3520$0401a8c0@M90><001a01c86743$06babbf0$0301a8c0@HAL9005><008001c86749$2c17a600$0401a8c0@M90><001b01c867e3$2663c910$8119fea9@LTVM><00af01c867fa$89035100$0401a8c0@M90> <002001c86802$2c3715d0$8119fea9@LTVM> Message-ID: <00b401c86806$4171f920$0401a8c0@M90> Max, I am really just trying to figure out how to keep control of the word instance. The only thing that comes to mind (other than William's suggestion of running code inside word itself) is to somehow prevent my instance of word from closing, thus forcing the user to switch back to Access to let me have control again. At that point I can save, close and cleanup. If you know how to prevent your instance of Word from closing I think that would be enough. Otherwise suggestions on how to do this are appreciated. John W. Colby Colby Consulting www.ColbyConsulting.com -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Max Wanadoo Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2008 9:20 AM To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' Subject: Re: [AccessD] Automation of word Well, I can say that I do virtually all of that as well with the one exception of user adding in comments during print time, but it would be easy to implement that. when I get time later, I will go through my routine and strip away the bits that don't lend themself to what you are doing and then post it up. It is a very long routine which is why I was just posting bits out of it. It is based on Bookmarks in Word dot (not docs, but template dot files). There is a master Word Doc which people copy, give a new name to and add the text in and put any other bookmarks in (from a series of known bookmark names that the this system understands). The calling form (but could be a rst) is selected from a Combo (which letter do you want to send type thing). The user can d/click on the selected letter and make changes if they want to the DOT document. there are also clicks for paragraphs to be added in, postscripts, donations, etc, etc. A whole range of stuff. When the module is called, it is passed the form name. From that it will know what sort of data is available and will open a NEW INSTANCE of word object. It will then create a new document based on the selected DOT document and populate the bookmarks. It will then create a new name which is part system generated and part data orientated. If a word document exists with the same name, it will append a sequential number and loop until it gets a unique name. It then saves this. It then background prints and stays there until the printing is completed (couple of millisecs typically) and then closes the INSTANCE of the WORD Object. A usesr can hage multiple word documents open if they wish, no problem as we are using our own INSTANCE of the object. The options are to Just Print it, Preview it, Cancel it. The document name is then written to a linked table (PersonID and LetterID). it can be retrieved at any time, previewed again, deleted etc - up to you). All letters we send out are done via the database so that we know exactly what was sent, who sent it, etc. Obviously, I can't post up the whole suite but the above should give you a general feel. Do you want the Word module posted or sent private (or not at all)? Max -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of jwcolby Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2008 1:25 PM To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' Subject: Re: [AccessD] Automation of word Max, In this case the user selects from one of dozens of different documents specific to a type of disability claim for a specific disability insurance company. These documents are things like request for medical records, notice of claim status, legal requests to lawyers, what have you. So the user selects a specific document, then the people that will get a copy of the document, who the "to" is, and who are CCs etc. They then click a "merge" button and the data required for that specific document is dumped to the text file, Word is opened with that specific document loaded. Word pulls the data from the text file and then MAY throw up prompts to the user to fill in other data that is not in tables, but rather is in the claim processor's head (comment to the claimant etc). Once the claim processor has finished and is happy with the document, (s)he prints the document and closes word. Thus the process is a little more complex than just "open and print a document". What I am trying to accomplish now is to reliably get the document saved after being filled in, as well as reliably get Word closed. This application is call center software. My client, the user of the application, has invested in a system to scan all paper and get it into electronic format. The claim is a paper file, the document just created is printed, but the paper is never touched after being placed in the folder. All processing of the claim is done by looking at the document scans. The entire claim is dumped to individual DVDs and those DVDs are sent to their client (large insurance companies). The paper is sent to dead storage, it has to exist for legal reasons but it never has to be actually looked at. So... ATM the process of SAVING the document relies on the user to actually do so. The document HAS to be saved to a specific folder in order for the scan software to "see it". That software will open all documents in a specific folder and import it into the document storage system, index it by claim number etc. But if the document does not get saved, then it does not get into the electronic version of the claim. ATM they take the paper copy just printed, place it into a scanner and manually scan the paper into the system but that is labor intensive. They do a thousand documents a day, and they want to be able to reliably save the document into this special folder and just let the doc storage do its thing without having to go through that manual scan step. Additionally closing of the WORD application depends on the user. I want to gain control of the save and the close process. Thus I want to lock Word open and force the user to click a button in Access so that my program can save the document close Word and release my pointer to word, log that I saved the document to doc storage etc. John W. Colby Colby Consulting www.ColbyConsulting.com From tinanfields at torchlake.com Tue Feb 5 09:17:53 2008 From: tinanfields at torchlake.com (Tina Norris Fields) Date: Tue, 05 Feb 2008 10:17:53 -0500 Subject: [AccessD] Automation of word In-Reply-To: <002001c86802$2c3715d0$8119fea9@LTVM> References: <005601c8673d$054b3520$0401a8c0@M90><001a01c86743$06babbf0$0301a8c0@HAL9005><008001c86749$2c17a600$0401a8c0@M90><001b01c867e3$2663c910$8119fea9@LTVM> <00af01c867fa$89035100$0401a8c0@M90> <002001c86802$2c3715d0$8119fea9@LTVM> Message-ID: <47A87E21.9070601@torchlake.com> Dunno about anybody else, but I would like to see that whole routine, Max. I have a little dinky one that is like a kindergartener next to what you have described. Please post what you can or will of that nifty tool. Thanks, Tina Max Wanadoo wrote: > Well, I can say that I do virtually all of that as well with the one > exception of user adding in comments during print time, but it would be easy > to implement that. > when I get time later, I will go through my routine and strip away the bits > that don't lend themself to what you are doing and then post it up. It is a > very long routine which is why I was just posting bits out of it. > It is based on Bookmarks in Word dot (not docs, but template dot files). > There is a master Word Doc which people copy, give a new name to and add the > text in and put any other bookmarks in (from a series of known bookmark > names that the this system understands). The calling form (but could be a > rst) is selected from a Combo (which letter do you want to send type thing). > The user can d/click on the selected letter and make changes if they want to > the DOT document. there are also clicks for paragraphs to be added in, > postscripts, donations, etc, etc. A whole range of stuff. > When the module is called, it is passed the form name. From that it will > know what sort of data is available and will open a NEW INSTANCE of word > object. It will then create a new document based on the selected DOT > document and populate the bookmarks. It will then create a new name which > is part system generated and part data orientated. If a word document > exists with the same name, it will append a sequential number and loop until > it gets a unique name. It then saves this. It then background prints and > stays there until the printing is completed (couple of millisecs typically) > and then closes the INSTANCE of the WORD Object. A usesr can hage multiple > word documents open if they wish, no problem as we are using our own > INSTANCE of the object. > The options are to Just Print it, Preview it, Cancel it. The document name > is then written to a linked table (PersonID and LetterID). it can be > retrieved at any time, previewed again, deleted etc - up to you). All > letters we send out are done via the database so that we know exactly what > was sent, who sent it, etc. > > Obviously, I can't post up the whole suite but the above should give you a > general feel. Do you want the Word module posted or sent private (or not at > all)? > > Max > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of jwcolby > Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2008 1:25 PM > To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' > Subject: Re: [AccessD] Automation of word > > Max, > > In this case the user selects from one of dozens of different documents > specific to a type of disability claim for a specific disability insurance > company. These documents are things like request for medical records, > notice of claim status, legal requests to lawyers, what have you. So the > user selects a specific document, then the people that will get a copy of > the document, who the "to" is, and who are CCs etc. They then click a > "merge" button and the data required for that specific document is dumped to > the text file, Word is opened with that specific document loaded. Word > pulls the data from the text file and then MAY throw up prompts to the user > to fill in other data that is not in tables, but rather is in the claim > processor's head (comment to the claimant etc). > > Once the claim processor has finished and is happy with the document, (s)he > prints the document and closes word. Thus the process is a little more > complex than just "open and print a document". > > What I am trying to accomplish now is to reliably get the document saved > after being filled in, as well as reliably get Word closed. This > application is call center software. My client, the user of the > application, has invested in a system to scan all paper and get it into > electronic format. The claim is a paper file, the document just created is > printed, but the paper is never touched after being placed in the folder. > All processing of the claim is done by looking at the document scans. The > entire claim is dumped to individual DVDs and those DVDs are sent to their > client (large insurance companies). The paper is sent to dead storage, it > has to exist for legal reasons but it never has to be actually looked at. > > So... ATM the process of SAVING the document relies on the user to actually > do so. The document HAS to be saved to a specific folder in order for the > scan software to "see it". That software will open all documents in a > specific folder and import it into the document storage system, index it by > claim number etc. But if the document does not get saved, then it does not > get into the electronic version of the claim. ATM they take the paper copy > just printed, place it into a scanner and manually scan the paper into the > system but that is labor intensive. They do a thousand documents a day, and > they want to be able to reliably save the document into this special folder > and just let the doc storage do its thing without having to go through that > manual scan step. > > Additionally closing of the WORD application depends on the user. I want to > gain control of the save and the close process. Thus I want to lock Word > open and force the user to click a button in Access so that my program can > save the document close Word and release my pointer to word, log that I > saved the document to doc storage etc. > > > John W. Colby > Colby Consulting > www.ColbyConsulting.com > -----Original Message----- > From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Max Wanadoo > Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2008 5:38 AM > To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' > Subject: Re: [AccessD] Automation of word > > You can open Word and set it to background printing and then keep it open > until printing is completed and then close it down. > Is that what you are after? > Max > > > -----Original Message----- > From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of jwcolby > Sent: Monday, February 04, 2008 4:16 PM > To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' > Subject: Re: [AccessD] Automation of word > > Rocky, > > In fact the method I am using is to export the data into t text file. The > word document is then "hard coded" to pull in data from that text document. > I just open the word document and it "just does it". Of course I have to > successfully export the data to the text file first. > > John W. Colby > Colby Consulting > www.ColbyConsulting.com > -----Original Message----- > From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Rocky Smolin at > Beach Access Software > Sent: Monday, February 04, 2008 10:32 AM > To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' > Subject: Re: [AccessD] Automation of word > > John: > > Can't help you with that but I'm curious to know the code you're using to do > the merge. I had a merge function and it used to work. Now, for reasons I > have yet to be able to figure out it doesn't. My code to open the document > and merge is only a few lines: > > Dim objWordDoc As Word.Document > Dim objWord As Object > > Set objWord = CreateObject("Word.Application") > > With objWord > 'Visible is set True in order to view the operation. > .Visible = True > .Documents.Open (strDocName) > .ActiveDocument.MailMerge.Destination = wdSendToNewDocument > .ActiveDocument.MailMerge.SuppressBlankLines = True > .ActiveDocument.MailMerge.Execute > End With > > It starts word and opens the document just fine but at > .ActiveDocument.MailMerge.Destination = wdSendToNewDocument I get requested > object not available. > > How are you opening and merging your document? > > TIA > > Rocky > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of jwcolby > Sent: Monday, February 04, 2008 6:49 AM > To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' > Subject: [AccessD] Automation of word > > I have a rather elaborate mail merge system in a client's system. ATM I > open the document, merge the date and the user takes over, filling in things > that they need to fill in, then printing and closing the word instance. It > works well enough however I do not control the save of the document, and > very occasionally Word does not close cleanly, leaving a hidden instance > open WITH the associated merge text document open as well, preventing the > next merge from occurring. > > I need to know if it is possible to open word in a mode that prevents it > from being closed by the user? I would then have the user go back to my > application and press a button saying that they succeeded in doing the mail > merge. I would save the document and close Word down. > > Can I prevent the user from closing Word? > > John W. Colby > Colby Consulting > www.ColbyConsulting.com > > -- > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.19.19/1257 - Release Date: 2/3/2008 > 5:49 PM > > > -- > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > -- > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > > -- > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > -- > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > From max.wanadoo at gmail.com Tue Feb 5 09:18:52 2008 From: max.wanadoo at gmail.com (Max Wanadoo) Date: Tue, 5 Feb 2008 15:18:52 -0000 Subject: [AccessD] Automation of word In-Reply-To: <00b401c86806$4171f920$0401a8c0@M90> References: <005601c8673d$054b3520$0401a8c0@M90><001a01c86743$06babbf0$0301a8c0@HAL9005><008001c86749$2c17a600$0401a8c0@M90><001b01c867e3$2663c910$8119fea9@LTVM><00af01c867fa$89035100$0401a8c0@M90><002001c86802$2c3715d0$8119fea9@LTVM> <00b401c86806$4171f920$0401a8c0@M90> Message-ID: <002701c8680a$6d418030$8119fea9@LTVM> John, Why don't you save the document within your code before opening it for the user. If you used a NEW Word Object then that object will remain extant until the user closes it (the Word doc) at which point your code gets control back and just clears the object. All your work will have been done before hand so no cleanup to do - just a matter of setting the object to nothing. if the user makes changes then word itself will prompt the user to save or discard. Your side of it is done. Max -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of jwcolby Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2008 2:49 PM To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' Subject: Re: [AccessD] Automation of word Max, I am really just trying to figure out how to keep control of the word instance. The only thing that comes to mind (other than William's suggestion of running code inside word itself) is to somehow prevent my instance of word from closing, thus forcing the user to switch back to Access to let me have control again. At that point I can save, close and cleanup. If you know how to prevent your instance of Word from closing I think that would be enough. Otherwise suggestions on how to do this are appreciated. John W. Colby Colby Consulting www.ColbyConsulting.com -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Max Wanadoo Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2008 9:20 AM To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' Subject: Re: [AccessD] Automation of word Well, I can say that I do virtually all of that as well with the one exception of user adding in comments during print time, but it would be easy to implement that. when I get time later, I will go through my routine and strip away the bits that don't lend themself to what you are doing and then post it up. It is a very long routine which is why I was just posting bits out of it. It is based on Bookmarks in Word dot (not docs, but template dot files). There is a master Word Doc which people copy, give a new name to and add the text in and put any other bookmarks in (from a series of known bookmark names that the this system understands). The calling form (but could be a rst) is selected from a Combo (which letter do you want to send type thing). The user can d/click on the selected letter and make changes if they want to the DOT document. there are also clicks for paragraphs to be added in, postscripts, donations, etc, etc. A whole range of stuff. When the module is called, it is passed the form name. From that it will know what sort of data is available and will open a NEW INSTANCE of word object. It will then create a new document based on the selected DOT document and populate the bookmarks. It will then create a new name which is part system generated and part data orientated. If a word document exists with the same name, it will append a sequential number and loop until it gets a unique name. It then saves this. It then background prints and stays there until the printing is completed (couple of millisecs typically) and then closes the INSTANCE of the WORD Object. A usesr can hage multiple word documents open if they wish, no problem as we are using our own INSTANCE of the object. The options are to Just Print it, Preview it, Cancel it. The document name is then written to a linked table (PersonID and LetterID). it can be retrieved at any time, previewed again, deleted etc - up to you). All letters we send out are done via the database so that we know exactly what was sent, who sent it, etc. Obviously, I can't post up the whole suite but the above should give you a general feel. Do you want the Word module posted or sent private (or not at all)? Max -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of jwcolby Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2008 1:25 PM To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' Subject: Re: [AccessD] Automation of word Max, In this case the user selects from one of dozens of different documents specific to a type of disability claim for a specific disability insurance company. These documents are things like request for medical records, notice of claim status, legal requests to lawyers, what have you. So the user selects a specific document, then the people that will get a copy of the document, who the "to" is, and who are CCs etc. They then click a "merge" button and the data required for that specific document is dumped to the text file, Word is opened with that specific document loaded. Word pulls the data from the text file and then MAY throw up prompts to the user to fill in other data that is not in tables, but rather is in the claim processor's head (comment to the claimant etc). Once the claim processor has finished and is happy with the document, (s)he prints the document and closes word. Thus the process is a little more complex than just "open and print a document". What I am trying to accomplish now is to reliably get the document saved after being filled in, as well as reliably get Word closed. This application is call center software. My client, the user of the application, has invested in a system to scan all paper and get it into electronic format. The claim is a paper file, the document just created is printed, but the paper is never touched after being placed in the folder. All processing of the claim is done by looking at the document scans. The entire claim is dumped to individual DVDs and those DVDs are sent to their client (large insurance companies). The paper is sent to dead storage, it has to exist for legal reasons but it never has to be actually looked at. So... ATM the process of SAVING the document relies on the user to actually do so. The document HAS to be saved to a specific folder in order for the scan software to "see it". That software will open all documents in a specific folder and import it into the document storage system, index it by claim number etc. But if the document does not get saved, then it does not get into the electronic version of the claim. ATM they take the paper copy just printed, place it into a scanner and manually scan the paper into the system but that is labor intensive. They do a thousand documents a day, and they want to be able to reliably save the document into this special folder and just let the doc storage do its thing without having to go through that manual scan step. Additionally closing of the WORD application depends on the user. I want to gain control of the save and the close process. Thus I want to lock Word open and force the user to click a button in Access so that my program can save the document close Word and release my pointer to word, log that I saved the document to doc storage etc. John W. Colby Colby Consulting www.ColbyConsulting.com -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From mmattys at rochester.rr.com Tue Feb 5 09:38:11 2008 From: mmattys at rochester.rr.com (Michael R Mattys) Date: Tue, 5 Feb 2008 10:38:11 -0500 Subject: [AccessD] Automation of word References: <005601c8673d$054b3520$0401a8c0@M90> <001a01c86743$06babbf0$0301a8c0@HAL9005> <008001c86749$2c17a600$0401a8c0@M90> <001b01c867e3$2663c910$8119fea9@LTVM> <00af01c867fa$89035100$0401a8c0@M90> <002001c86802$2c3715d0$8119fea9@LTVM> <00b401c86806$4171f920$0401a8c0@M90> Message-ID: <018d01c8680d$1e8782c0$0202a8c0@Laptop> Hi John, All I'm not following this thread too closely, but it seems like the Document.Close event could be used to check whether the user opened the document or the database did and then take the appropriate action. Sorry if my singing is totally off-key :) Michael R. Mattys MapPoint & Access Dev www.mattysconsulting.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "jwcolby" To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'" Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2008 9:49 AM Subject: Re: [AccessD] Automation of word > Max, > > I am really just trying to figure out how to keep control of the word > instance. The only thing that comes to mind (other than William's > suggestion of running code inside word itself) is to somehow prevent my > instance of word from closing, thus forcing the user to switch back to > Access to let me have control again. At that point I can save, close and > cleanup. > > If you know how to prevent your instance of Word from closing I think that > would be enough. Otherwise suggestions on how to do this are appreciated. > > > John W. Colby > Colby Consulting > www.ColbyConsulting.com From cfoust at infostatsystems.com Tue Feb 5 10:05:49 2008 From: cfoust at infostatsystems.com (Charlotte Foust) Date: Tue, 5 Feb 2008 08:05:49 -0800 Subject: [AccessD] OT: A book on Vb.net 2005 Windows Forms In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: John, I program in VB.Net and WinForms, and I haven't found a good book on that yet either. We all seem to come from different perspectives, so JC looks at it differently from me and Gustav has still another approach. I'm not sure a book exists that will walk you through WinForms, but if someone knows of one, I'll buy it too! Charlotte Foust -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Johncliviger at aol.com Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2008 6:03 AM To: AccessD at databaseadvisors.com Subject: [AccessD] OT: A book on Vb.net 2005 Windows Forms Hi List Can anyone recommend a book on Vb.net 2005 Windows Forms kind regards johnc From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com Tue Feb 5 10:16:21 2008 From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (jwcolby) Date: Tue, 5 Feb 2008 11:16:21 -0500 Subject: [AccessD] Automation of word In-Reply-To: <002701c8680a$6d418030$8119fea9@LTVM> References: <005601c8673d$054b3520$0401a8c0@M90><001a01c86743$06babbf0$0301a8c0@HAL9005><008001c86749$2c17a600$0401a8c0@M90><001b01c867e3$2663c910$8119fea9@LTVM><00af01c867fa$89035100$0401a8c0@M90><002001c86802$2c3715d0$8119fea9@LTVM><00b401c86806$4171f920$0401a8c0@M90> <002701c8680a$6d418030$8119fea9@LTVM> Message-ID: <00b801c86812$72c43360$0401a8c0@M90> Max, This doesn't work because the user gets to fill in stuff in the document, and does so on a regular basis. Thus the save would not show all their changes to the document. Yes, word prompts them just fine but they get to say no. Saying no is NOT LEGAL, but they can if they want to. THAT IS THE PROBLEM. I need to "lock the document open" so that whether they say yes or no, they can't close the document. I can then take my pointer to the document, force Word to save the document and then close it myself. John W. Colby Colby Consulting www.ColbyConsulting.com -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Max Wanadoo Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2008 10:19 AM To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' Subject: Re: [AccessD] Automation of word John, Why don't you save the document within your code before opening it for the user. If you used a NEW Word Object then that object will remain extant until the user closes it (the Word doc) at which point your code gets control back and just clears the object. All your work will have been done before hand so no cleanup to do - just a matter of setting the object to nothing. if the user makes changes then word itself will prompt the user to save or discard. Your side of it is done. Max -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of jwcolby Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2008 2:49 PM To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' Subject: Re: [AccessD] Automation of word Max, I am really just trying to figure out how to keep control of the word instance. The only thing that comes to mind (other than William's suggestion of running code inside word itself) is to somehow prevent my instance of word from closing, thus forcing the user to switch back to Access to let me have control again. At that point I can save, close and cleanup. If you know how to prevent your instance of Word from closing I think that would be enough. Otherwise suggestions on how to do this are appreciated. John W. Colby Colby Consulting www.ColbyConsulting.com -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Max Wanadoo Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2008 9:20 AM To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' Subject: Re: [AccessD] Automation of word Well, I can say that I do virtually all of that as well with the one exception of user adding in comments during print time, but it would be easy to implement that. when I get time later, I will go through my routine and strip away the bits that don't lend themself to what you are doing and then post it up. It is a very long routine which is why I was just posting bits out of it. It is based on Bookmarks in Word dot (not docs, but template dot files). There is a master Word Doc which people copy, give a new name to and add the text in and put any other bookmarks in (from a series of known bookmark names that the this system understands). The calling form (but could be a rst) is selected from a Combo (which letter do you want to send type thing). The user can d/click on the selected letter and make changes if they want to the DOT document. there are also clicks for paragraphs to be added in, postscripts, donations, etc, etc. A whole range of stuff. When the module is called, it is passed the form name. From that it will know what sort of data is available and will open a NEW INSTANCE of word object. It will then create a new document based on the selected DOT document and populate the bookmarks. It will then create a new name which is part system generated and part data orientated. If a word document exists with the same name, it will append a sequential number and loop until it gets a unique name. It then saves this. It then background prints and stays there until the printing is completed (couple of millisecs typically) and then closes the INSTANCE of the WORD Object. A usesr can hage multiple word documents open if they wish, no problem as we are using our own INSTANCE of the object. The options are to Just Print it, Preview it, Cancel it. The document name is then written to a linked table (PersonID and LetterID). it can be retrieved at any time, previewed again, deleted etc - up to you). All letters we send out are done via the database so that we know exactly what was sent, who sent it, etc. Obviously, I can't post up the whole suite but the above should give you a general feel. Do you want the Word module posted or sent private (or not at all)? Max -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of jwcolby Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2008 1:25 PM To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' Subject: Re: [AccessD] Automation of word Max, In this case the user selects from one of dozens of different documents specific to a type of disability claim for a specific disability insurance company. These documents are things like request for medical records, notice of claim status, legal requests to lawyers, what have you. So the user selects a specific document, then the people that will get a copy of the document, who the "to" is, and who are CCs etc. They then click a "merge" button and the data required for that specific document is dumped to the text file, Word is opened with that specific document loaded. Word pulls the data from the text file and then MAY throw up prompts to the user to fill in other data that is not in tables, but rather is in the claim processor's head (comment to the claimant etc). Once the claim processor has finished and is happy with the document, (s)he prints the document and closes word. Thus the process is a little more complex than just "open and print a document". What I am trying to accomplish now is to reliably get the document saved after being filled in, as well as reliably get Word closed. This application is call center software. My client, the user of the application, has invested in a system to scan all paper and get it into electronic format. The claim is a paper file, the document just created is printed, but the paper is never touched after being placed in the folder. All processing of the claim is done by looking at the document scans. The entire claim is dumped to individual DVDs and those DVDs are sent to their client (large insurance companies). The paper is sent to dead storage, it has to exist for legal reasons but it never has to be actually looked at. So... ATM the process of SAVING the document relies on the user to actually do so. The document HAS to be saved to a specific folder in order for the scan software to "see it". That software will open all documents in a specific folder and import it into the document storage system, index it by claim number etc. But if the document does not get saved, then it does not get into the electronic version of the claim. ATM they take the paper copy just printed, place it into a scanner and manually scan the paper into the system but that is labor intensive. They do a thousand documents a day, and they want to be able to reliably save the document into this special folder and just let the doc storage do its thing without having to go through that manual scan step. Additionally closing of the WORD application depends on the user. I want to gain control of the save and the close process. Thus I want to lock Word open and force the user to click a button in Access so that my program can save the document close Word and release my pointer to word, log that I saved the document to doc storage etc. John W. Colby Colby Consulting www.ColbyConsulting.com -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From Lambert.Heenan at AIG.com Tue Feb 5 10:18:36 2008 From: Lambert.Heenan at AIG.com (Heenan, Lambert) Date: Tue, 5 Feb 2008 11:18:36 -0500 Subject: [AccessD] OT: A book on Vb.net 2005 Windows Forms Message-ID: <34C8A2AB1EF3564CB0D64DB6AFFDD5C208ED79AC@XLIVMBX35bkup.aig.com> Well it's not VB.NET, but there's a book called "Windows Forms Programming in C#" which might prove useful. http://www.amazon.com/Windows-Forms-Programming-Microsoft-Development/dp/032 1116208 Then there's another from the guru, Charles Petzold "Programming Microsoft Windows Forms" http://www.amazon.com/Programming-Microsoft-Windows-Forms-Developer/dp/07356 21535/ref=pd_sim_b_title_2 And "Windows Forms 2.0 Programming" from Sells and Weinhardt http://www.amazon.com/Windows-Forms-Programming-Microsoft-Development/dp/032 1267966/ref=pd_sim_b_title_3 Lambert -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Charlotte Foust Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2008 11:06 AM To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving Subject: Re: [AccessD] OT: A book on Vb.net 2005 Windows Forms John, I program in VB.Net and WinForms, and I haven't found a good book on that yet either. We all seem to come from different perspectives, so JC looks at it differently from me and Gustav has still another approach. I'm not sure a book exists that will walk you through WinForms, but if someone knows of one, I'll buy it too! Charlotte Foust -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Johncliviger at aol.com Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2008 6:03 AM To: AccessD at databaseadvisors.com Subject: [AccessD] OT: A book on Vb.net 2005 Windows Forms Hi List Can anyone recommend a book on Vb.net 2005 Windows Forms kind regards johnc -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From ssharkins at gmail.com Tue Feb 5 10:22:41 2008 From: ssharkins at gmail.com (Susan Harkins) Date: Tue, 5 Feb 2008 11:22:41 -0500 Subject: [AccessD] Automation of word References: <005601c8673d$054b3520$0401a8c0@M90><001a01c86743$06babbf0$0301a8c0@HAL9005><008001c86749$2c17a600$0401a8c0@M90><001b01c867e3$2663c910$8119fea9@LTVM><00af01c867fa$89035100$0401a8c0@M90><002001c86802$2c3715d0$8119fea9@LTVM><00b401c86806$4171f920$0401a8c0@M90><002701c8680a$6d418030$8119fea9@LTVM> <00b801c86812$72c43360$0401a8c0@M90> Message-ID: <003501c86813$565cd190$4b3a8343@SusanOne> What if they mess up and really need to start over? I've been trying to follow this thread and this is the first time I've understood the problem -- thanks. :) Sorry I don't have a solution for you -- I'll bet Bryan knows the answer. He's a Word genius. :) Susan H. > Max, > > This doesn't work because the user gets to fill in stuff in the document, > and does so on a regular basis. Thus the save would not show all their > changes to the document. Yes, word prompts them just fine but they get to > say no. Saying no is NOT LEGAL, but they can if they want to. THAT IS > THE > PROBLEM. I need to "lock the document open" so that whether they say yes > or > no, they can't close the document. I can then take my pointer to the > document, force Word to save the document and then close it myself. From ssharkins at gmail.com Tue Feb 5 10:37:25 2008 From: ssharkins at gmail.com (Susan Harkins) Date: Tue, 5 Feb 2008 11:37:25 -0500 Subject: [AccessD] OT: A book on Vb.net 2005 Windows Forms References: <34C8A2AB1EF3564CB0D64DB6AFFDD5C208ED79AC@XLIVMBX35bkup.aig.com> Message-ID: <003901c86815$65dad020$4b3a8343@SusanOne> I can't vouch for any of them, but I can tell you that I've never read an "In a Nutshell" book that I didn't like and think was the very best in coverage and focus. Susan H. > Well it's not VB.NET, but there's a book called "Windows Forms Programming > in C#" which might prove useful. > > http://www.amazon.com/Windows-Forms-Programming-Microsoft-Development/dp/032 > 1116208 > > Then there's another from the guru, Charles Petzold "Programming Microsoft > Windows Forms" > > http://www.amazon.com/Programming-Microsoft-Windows-Forms-Developer/dp/07356 > 21535/ref=pd_sim_b_title_2 > > And "Windows Forms 2.0 Programming" from Sells and Weinhardt > > http://www.amazon.com/Windows-Forms-Programming-Microsoft-Development/dp/032 > 1267966/ref=pd_sim_b_title_3 > > > Lambert > > -----Original Message----- > From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Charlotte Foust > Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2008 11:06 AM > To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving > Subject: Re: [AccessD] OT: A book on Vb.net 2005 Windows Forms > > > John, > > I program in VB.Net and WinForms, and I haven't found a good book on that > yet either. We all seem to come from different perspectives, so JC looks > at > it differently from me and Gustav has still another approach. I'm not sure > a > book exists that will walk you through WinForms, but if someone knows of > one, I'll buy it too! > > Charlotte Foust > > -----Original Message----- > From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of > Johncliviger at aol.com > Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2008 6:03 AM > To: AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > Subject: [AccessD] OT: A book on Vb.net 2005 Windows Forms > > > Hi List > > Can anyone recommend a book on Vb.net 2005 Windows Forms > > kind regards > > johnc > > > > -- > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > -- > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com Tue Feb 5 11:00:40 2008 From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (jwcolby) Date: Tue, 5 Feb 2008 12:00:40 -0500 Subject: [AccessD] Automation of word In-Reply-To: <003501c86813$565cd190$4b3a8343@SusanOne> References: <005601c8673d$054b3520$0401a8c0@M90><001a01c86743$06babbf0$0301a8c0@HAL9005><008001c86749$2c17a600$0401a8c0@M90><001b01c867e3$2663c910$8119fea9@LTVM><00af01c867fa$89035100$0401a8c0@M90><002001c86802$2c3715d0$8119fea9@LTVM><00b401c86806$4171f920$0401a8c0@M90><002701c8680a$6d418030$8119fea9@LTVM><00b801c86812$72c43360$0401a8c0@M90> <003501c86813$565cd190$4b3a8343@SusanOne> Message-ID: <00c001c86818$a37a1550$0401a8c0@M90> Susan, That is a good question. When they come back to my application they get a form presenting them with the option of canceling the merge. If they choose that option then I can delete the file back out of the directory. John W. Colby Colby Consulting www.ColbyConsulting.com -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Susan Harkins Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2008 11:23 AM To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving Subject: Re: [AccessD] Automation of word What if they mess up and really need to start over? I've been trying to follow this thread and this is the first time I've understood the problem -- thanks. :) Sorry I don't have a solution for you -- I'll bet Bryan knows the answer. He's a Word genius. :) Susan H. > Max, > > This doesn't work because the user gets to fill in stuff in the > document, and does so on a regular basis. Thus the save would not > show all their changes to the document. Yes, word prompts them just > fine but they get to say no. Saying no is NOT LEGAL, but they can if > they want to. THAT IS THE PROBLEM. I need to "lock the document > open" so that whether they say yes or no, they can't close the > document. I can then take my pointer to the document, force Word to > save the document and then close it myself. -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From max.wanadoo at gmail.com Tue Feb 5 11:12:02 2008 From: max.wanadoo at gmail.com (Max Wanadoo) Date: Tue, 5 Feb 2008 17:12:02 -0000 Subject: [AccessD] Automation of word In-Reply-To: <00b801c86812$72c43360$0401a8c0@M90> References: <005601c8673d$054b3520$0401a8c0@M90><001a01c86743$06babbf0$0301a8c0@HAL9005><008001c86749$2c17a600$0401a8c0@M90><001b01c867e3$2663c910$8119fea9@LTVM><00af01c867fa$89035100$0401a8c0@M90><002001c86802$2c3715d0$8119fea9@LTVM><00b401c86806$4171f920$0401a8c0@M90><002701c8680a$6d418030$8119fea9@LTVM> <00b801c86812$72c43360$0401a8c0@M90> Message-ID: <001501c8681a$3a57f360$8119fea9@LTVM> John, Checking Word Help... This is a copy-n-paste. You can just show them a message saying "Close from Access, etc" and set the cancel = true as soon as they try to close the document. Max ps. Haven't tried it. Refer to the comments on this method. DocumentBeforeClose Event See AlsoApplies ToExampleSpecificsOccurs immediately before any open document closes. Private Sub object_DocumentBeforeClose(ByVal Doc As Document, Cancel As Boolean) object An object of type Application declared with events in a class module. For more information about using events with the Application object, see Using Events with the Application Object. Doc The document that's being closed. Cancel False when the event occurs. If the event procedure sets this argument to True, the document doesn't close when the procedure is finished. Example This example prompts the user for a yes or no response before closing any document. This code must be placed in a class module, and an instance of the class must be correctly initialized in order to see this example work; see Using Events with the Application Object Using Events with the Application Object for directions on how to accomplish this. Public WithEvents appWord as Word.Application Private Sub appWord_DocumentBeforeClose _ (ByVal Doc As Document, _ Cancel As Boolean) Dim intResponse As Integer intResponse = MsgBox("Do you really " _ & "want to close the document?", _ vbYesNo) If intResponse = vbNo Then Cancel = True End Sub -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of jwcolby Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2008 4:16 PM To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' Subject: Re: [AccessD] Automation of word Max, This doesn't work because the user gets to fill in stuff in the document, and does so on a regular basis. Thus the save would not show all their changes to the document. Yes, word prompts them just fine but they get to say no. Saying no is NOT LEGAL, but they can if they want to. THAT IS THE PROBLEM. I need to "lock the document open" so that whether they say yes or no, they can't close the document. I can then take my pointer to the document, force Word to save the document and then close it myself. John W. Colby Colby Consulting www.ColbyConsulting.com -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Max Wanadoo Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2008 10:19 AM To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' Subject: Re: [AccessD] Automation of word John, Why don't you save the document within your code before opening it for the user. If you used a NEW Word Object then that object will remain extant until the user closes it (the Word doc) at which point your code gets control back and just clears the object. All your work will have been done before hand so no cleanup to do - just a matter of setting the object to nothing. if the user makes changes then word itself will prompt the user to save or discard. Your side of it is done. Max -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of jwcolby Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2008 2:49 PM To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' Subject: Re: [AccessD] Automation of word Max, I am really just trying to figure out how to keep control of the word instance. The only thing that comes to mind (other than William's suggestion of running code inside word itself) is to somehow prevent my instance of word from closing, thus forcing the user to switch back to Access to let me have control again. At that point I can save, close and cleanup. If you know how to prevent your instance of Word from closing I think that would be enough. Otherwise suggestions on how to do this are appreciated. John W. Colby Colby Consulting www.ColbyConsulting.com -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Max Wanadoo Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2008 9:20 AM To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' Subject: Re: [AccessD] Automation of word Well, I can say that I do virtually all of that as well with the one exception of user adding in comments during print time, but it would be easy to implement that. when I get time later, I will go through my routine and strip away the bits that don't lend themself to what you are doing and then post it up. It is a very long routine which is why I was just posting bits out of it. It is based on Bookmarks in Word dot (not docs, but template dot files). There is a master Word Doc which people copy, give a new name to and add the text in and put any other bookmarks in (from a series of known bookmark names that the this system understands). The calling form (but could be a rst) is selected from a Combo (which letter do you want to send type thing). The user can d/click on the selected letter and make changes if they want to the DOT document. there are also clicks for paragraphs to be added in, postscripts, donations, etc, etc. A whole range of stuff. When the module is called, it is passed the form name. From that it will know what sort of data is available and will open a NEW INSTANCE of word object. It will then create a new document based on the selected DOT document and populate the bookmarks. It will then create a new name which is part system generated and part data orientated. If a word document exists with the same name, it will append a sequential number and loop until it gets a unique name. It then saves this. It then background prints and stays there until the printing is completed (couple of millisecs typically) and then closes the INSTANCE of the WORD Object. A usesr can hage multiple word documents open if they wish, no problem as we are using our own INSTANCE of the object. The options are to Just Print it, Preview it, Cancel it. The document name is then written to a linked table (PersonID and LetterID). it can be retrieved at any time, previewed again, deleted etc - up to you). All letters we send out are done via the database so that we know exactly what was sent, who sent it, etc. Obviously, I can't post up the whole suite but the above should give you a general feel. Do you want the Word module posted or sent private (or not at all)? Max -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of jwcolby Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2008 1:25 PM To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' Subject: Re: [AccessD] Automation of word Max, In this case the user selects from one of dozens of different documents specific to a type of disability claim for a specific disability insurance company. These documents are things like request for medical records, notice of claim status, legal requests to lawyers, what have you. So the user selects a specific document, then the people that will get a copy of the document, who the "to" is, and who are CCs etc. They then click a "merge" button and the data required for that specific document is dumped to the text file, Word is opened with that specific document loaded. Word pulls the data from the text file and then MAY throw up prompts to the user to fill in other data that is not in tables, but rather is in the claim processor's head (comment to the claimant etc). Once the claim processor has finished and is happy with the document, (s)he prints the document and closes word. Thus the process is a little more complex than just "open and print a document". What I am trying to accomplish now is to reliably get the document saved after being filled in, as well as reliably get Word closed. This application is call center software. My client, the user of the application, has invested in a system to scan all paper and get it into electronic format. The claim is a paper file, the document just created is printed, but the paper is never touched after being placed in the folder. All processing of the claim is done by looking at the document scans. The entire claim is dumped to individual DVDs and those DVDs are sent to their client (large insurance companies). The paper is sent to dead storage, it has to exist for legal reasons but it never has to be actually looked at. So... ATM the process of SAVING the document relies on the user to actually do so. The document HAS to be saved to a specific folder in order for the scan software to "see it". That software will open all documents in a specific folder and import it into the document storage system, index it by claim number etc. But if the document does not get saved, then it does not get into the electronic version of the claim. ATM they take the paper copy just printed, place it into a scanner and manually scan the paper into the system but that is labor intensive. They do a thousand documents a day, and they want to be able to reliably save the document into this special folder and just let the doc storage do its thing without having to go through that manual scan step. Additionally closing of the WORD application depends on the user. I want to gain control of the save and the close process. Thus I want to lock Word open and force the user to click a button in Access so that my program can save the document close Word and release my pointer to word, log that I saved the document to doc storage etc. John W. Colby Colby Consulting www.ColbyConsulting.com -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From Johncliviger at aol.com Tue Feb 5 11:18:26 2008 From: Johncliviger at aol.com (Johncliviger at aol.com) Date: Tue, 5 Feb 2008 12:18:26 EST Subject: [AccessD] OT: A book on Vb.net 2005 Windows Forms Message-ID: Hi Charlotte, Lambert and Susan Thank you for the feedback. I shall have a look thru them kind regards johnc From max.wanadoo at gmail.com Tue Feb 5 11:25:16 2008 From: max.wanadoo at gmail.com (Max Wanadoo) Date: Tue, 5 Feb 2008 17:25:16 -0000 Subject: [AccessD] A2k7 problems In-Reply-To: <29f585dd0802050550i402884feud950b21ea67fc51a@mail.gmail.com> References: <29f585dd0802050550i402884feud950b21ea67fc51a@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <001901c8681c$138a1a90$8119fea9@LTVM> Arthur, Have you installed the SP3 HotFix? This solved all my SP3 upgrade problems that I was bleating on about. http://support.microsoft.com/kb/945674 Max -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Arthur Fuller Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2008 1:50 PM To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving Subject: [AccessD] A2k7 problems I've got A2K7 installed and am experiencing something very strange. Almost as soon as I enter the code window Access crashes. I have been able to get away with a few keystrokes, sometimes even an entire line, and have discovered that if I write a chunk of code in my text editor then paste it in and quickly save, sometimes I can get away with that too. But in general I crash and burn almost immediately in any code window. I've applied the service pack and run the diagnostic tool with no joy. Anyone got any idea what is causing this and how I might fix it? TIA, Arthur -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From fuller.artful at gmail.com Tue Feb 5 11:30:35 2008 From: fuller.artful at gmail.com (Arthur Fuller) Date: Tue, 5 Feb 2008 12:30:35 -0500 Subject: [AccessD] A2k7 problems In-Reply-To: <001901c8681c$138a1a90$8119fea9@LTVM> References: <29f585dd0802050550i402884feud950b21ea67fc51a@mail.gmail.com> <001901c8681c$138a1a90$8119fea9@LTVM> Message-ID: <29f585dd0802050930m6fbaa80dn2c2644abd8bfa830@mail.gmail.com> This fix appears to be for 2003, not 2007. A. On Tue, Feb 5, 2008 at 12:25 PM, Max Wanadoo wrote: > Arthur, > Have you installed the SP3 HotFix? This solved all my SP3 upgrade > problems > that I was bleating on about. > > http://support.microsoft.com/kb/945674 > > Max > From newsgrps at dalyn.co.nz Tue Feb 5 11:34:38 2008 From: newsgrps at dalyn.co.nz (David Emerson) Date: Wed, 06 Feb 2008 06:34:38 +1300 Subject: [AccessD] Faxing reports from Access In-Reply-To: <000901c867f8$f0124a60$d67e6c4c@jisshowsbs.local> References: <00bb01c867c9$31746c20$3097d355@minster33c3r25> <000901c867f8$f0124a60$d67e6c4c@jisshowsbs.local> Message-ID: <20080205173249.DGTB18083.fep03.xtra.co.nz@Dalyn.dalyn.co.nz> Thanks for both of these. I am still working through a solution with the IT department. They don't want to put a modem on the servers to restrict hackers dialing in. (They do have broadband on the server though). What they are looking at is using another computer which is on the network and does have a fax modem. Will keep you all posted. David At 6/02/2008, you wrote: >...Zetafax also works quite well without using Exchange ...just point to a >table or query with an fax number source field and go ...I tried a number of >fax "solutions" before going with Zeta ...once you get the phone number >formats right, even the dumbest of users can use it without further support >...and every few months I get a call from their customer support asking if >there are any problems they can help me with ...no sales pitch, just a short >call ...and they actually know who to put you in touch with if you do have a >how-do-I question. > >William > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Andy Lacey" >To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'" > >Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2008 2:31 AM >Subject: Re: [AccessD] Faxing reports from Access > > > >I use Zetafax from Equinox http://www.equisys.com/index.html . It's not > > cheap but if you're an Outlook/Exchange user it's so simple because all > > you > > do is send an "email" but to a fax number. Zetafax picks it up and faxes > > it. > > You do need a fax modem on the Exchange server though of course. > > > > -- Andy Lacey > > http://www.minstersystems.co.uk > > > > > >>-----Original Message----- > >>From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > >>[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of > >>Barry G. Herring > >>Sent: 05 February 2008 00:19 > >>To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' > >>Subject: Re: [AccessD] Faxing reports from Access > >> > >> > >>I have a client that is interested in faxing also, so will be > >>monitoring this thread to its conclusion. > >> > >>Barry > >> > >> > >>-----Original Message----- > >>From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > >>[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of > >>Kath Pelletti > >>Sent: Monday, February 04, 2008 6:16 PM > >>To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving > >>Subject: Re: [AccessD] Faxing reports from Access > >> > >>Great if you can keep us posted - the next app I am writing > >>(2003) will also > >> > >>require faxing from the db. > >> > >>Kath > >> > >>----- Original Message ----- > >>From: "David Emerson" > >>To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving" > >> > >>Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2008 11:01 AM > >>Subject: Re: [AccessD] Faxing reports from Access > >> > >> > >>> Thanks Kath, > >>> > >>> I have that article and was going to use it, but then found that the > >>> server that it would be run on doesn't have a modem or phone > >>attached > >>> to it :'( > >>> > >>> They do have a couple of printers that are available, and these do > >>> have fax software but neither of them seem to enable > >>external commands > >>> from within other applications like WinFax does :-( > >>> > >>> Will keep everyone posted. > >>> > >>> Regards > >>> > >>> David > >>> > >>> > >>> At 5/02/2008, you wrote: > >>>>David - There was an article in Woody's Access Watch about > >>faxing from > >>>>Access. I will forward the Part 2 of it to you offline - > >>>> > >>>>Kath > >>>> > >>>> > >>>>----- Original Message ----- > >>>>From: "David Emerson" > >>>>To: > >>>>Sent: Monday, February 04, 2008 12:06 PM > >>>>Subject: [AccessD] Faxing reports from Access > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> >I have a client who want to fax two reports to their clients (a > >>>> >cover sheet, and a second report). They have WinFax 10 Pro > >>>> >installed but I am having problems getting technical > >>information on > >>>> >how to use it. > >>>> > > >>>> > Does anyone have any code for sending Faxes using WinFax? > >>>> > > >>>> > Regards > >>>> > > >>>> > David Emerson > >>>> > Dalyn Software Ltd > >>>> > Wellington, New Zealand > >>>> > > >>>> > -- > >>>> > AccessD mailing list > >>>> > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > >>>> > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > >>>> > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > >>>> > > >>>> > >>>> > >>>>-- > >>>>AccessD mailing list > >>>>AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > >>>>http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > >>>>Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > >>> > >>> -- > >>> AccessD mailing list > >>> AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > >>> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > >>> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > >>> > >> > >> > >>-- > >>AccessD mailing list > >>AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > >>http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > >>Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > >> > >>No virus found in this incoming message. > >>Checked by AVG Free Edition. > >>Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.19.19/1257 - Release > >>Date: 2/3/2008 > >>5:49 PM > >> > >> > >>No virus found in this outgoing message. > >>Checked by AVG Free Edition. > >>Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.19.19/1257 - Release > >>Date: 2/3/2008 > >>5:49 PM > >> > >> > >>-- > >>AccessD mailing list > >>AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > >>http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > >>Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > >> > >> > > > > > > > > -- > > AccessD mailing list > > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > >-- >AccessD mailing list >AccessD at databaseadvisors.com >http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd >Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From max.wanadoo at gmail.com Tue Feb 5 11:40:25 2008 From: max.wanadoo at gmail.com (Max Wanadoo) Date: Tue, 5 Feb 2008 17:40:25 -0000 Subject: [AccessD] A2k7 problems In-Reply-To: <29f585dd0802050930m6fbaa80dn2c2644abd8bfa830@mail.gmail.com> References: <29f585dd0802050550i402884feud950b21ea67fc51a@mail.gmail.com><001901c8681c$138a1a90$8119fea9@LTVM> <29f585dd0802050930m6fbaa80dn2c2644abd8bfa830@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <002d01c8681e$31a71440$8119fea9@LTVM> Yes, sorry. Is there a similar one for 2007 I wonder. Max http://support.microsoft.com/kb/945674 -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Arthur Fuller Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2008 5:31 PM To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving Subject: Re: [AccessD] A2k7 problems This fix appears to be for 2003, not 2007. A. On Tue, Feb 5, 2008 at 12:25 PM, Max Wanadoo wrote: > Arthur, > Have you installed the SP3 HotFix? This solved all my SP3 upgrade > problems that I was bleating on about. > > http://support.microsoft.com/kb/945674 > > Max > -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From max.wanadoo at gmail.com Tue Feb 5 11:43:47 2008 From: max.wanadoo at gmail.com (Max Wanadoo) Date: Tue, 5 Feb 2008 17:43:47 -0000 Subject: [AccessD] Faxing reports from Access In-Reply-To: <20080205173249.DGTB18083.fep03.xtra.co.nz@Dalyn.dalyn.co.nz> References: <00bb01c867c9$31746c20$3097d355@minster33c3r25><000901c867f8$f0124a60$d67e6c4c@jisshowsbs.local> <20080205173249.DGTB18083.fep03.xtra.co.nz@Dalyn.dalyn.co.nz> Message-ID: <002e01c8681e$a98607a0$8119fea9@LTVM> David, As an alternative, there are companies out there who will send faxes via an email. You send them an email, they turn it into a fax and send it. they receive a fax for you, they turn it into an email and pass it on to you. You get a tel number to use as a fax number. I dont think it is very expensive. Certainly less than installing a separate fax telephone line, rental etc. Also handles attachments. i have often looked at this but as we have a fax built into our office copier have not actually had a need for it. Max -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of David Emerson Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2008 5:35 PM To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving Subject: Re: [AccessD] Faxing reports from Access Thanks for both of these. I am still working through a solution with the IT department. They don't want to put a modem on the servers to restrict hackers dialing in. (They do have broadband on the server though). What they are looking at is using another computer which is on the network and does have a fax modem. Will keep you all posted. David At 6/02/2008, you wrote: >...Zetafax also works quite well without using Exchange ...just point >to a table or query with an fax number source field and go ...I tried a >number of fax "solutions" before going with Zeta ...once you get the >phone number formats right, even the dumbest of users can use it >without further support ...and every few months I get a call from their >customer support asking if there are any problems they can help me with >...no sales pitch, just a short call ...and they actually know who to >put you in touch with if you do have a how-do-I question. > >William > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Andy Lacey" >To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'" > >Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2008 2:31 AM >Subject: Re: [AccessD] Faxing reports from Access > > > >I use Zetafax from Equinox http://www.equisys.com/index.html . It's > >not cheap but if you're an Outlook/Exchange user it's so simple > >because all you do is send an "email" but to a fax number. Zetafax > >picks it up and faxes it. > > You do need a fax modem on the Exchange server though of course. > > > > -- Andy Lacey > > http://www.minstersystems.co.uk > > > > > >>-----Original Message----- > >>From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > >>[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Barry G. > >>Herring > >>Sent: 05 February 2008 00:19 > >>To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' > >>Subject: Re: [AccessD] Faxing reports from Access > >> > >> > >>I have a client that is interested in faxing also, so will be > >>monitoring this thread to its conclusion. > >> > >>Barry > >> > >> > >>-----Original Message----- > >>From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > >>[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Kath > >>Pelletti > >>Sent: Monday, February 04, 2008 6:16 PM > >>To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving > >>Subject: Re: [AccessD] Faxing reports from Access > >> > >>Great if you can keep us posted - the next app I am writing > >>(2003) will also > >> > >>require faxing from the db. > >> > >>Kath > >> > >>----- Original Message ----- > >>From: "David Emerson" > >>To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving" > >> > >>Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2008 11:01 AM > >>Subject: Re: [AccessD] Faxing reports from Access > >> > >> > >>> Thanks Kath, > >>> > >>> I have that article and was going to use it, but then found that > >>> the server that it would be run on doesn't have a modem or phone > >>attached > >>> to it :'( > >>> > >>> They do have a couple of printers that are available, and these do > >>> have fax software but neither of them seem to enable > >>external commands > >>> from within other applications like WinFax does :-( > >>> > >>> Will keep everyone posted. > >>> > >>> Regards > >>> > >>> David > >>> > >>> > >>> At 5/02/2008, you wrote: > >>>>David - There was an article in Woody's Access Watch about > >>faxing from > >>>>Access. I will forward the Part 2 of it to you offline - > >>>> > >>>>Kath > >>>> > >>>> > >>>>----- Original Message ----- > >>>>From: "David Emerson" > >>>>To: > >>>>Sent: Monday, February 04, 2008 12:06 PM > >>>>Subject: [AccessD] Faxing reports from Access > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> >I have a client who want to fax two reports to their clients (a > >>>> >cover sheet, and a second report). They have WinFax 10 Pro > >>>> >installed but I am having problems getting technical > >>information on > >>>> >how to use it. > >>>> > > >>>> > Does anyone have any code for sending Faxes using WinFax? > >>>> > > >>>> > Regards > >>>> > > >>>> > David Emerson > >>>> > Dalyn Software Ltd > >>>> > Wellington, New Zealand > >>>> > > >>>> > -- > >>>> > AccessD mailing list > >>>> > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > >>>> > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > >>>> > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > >>>> > > >>>> > >>>> > >>>>-- > >>>>AccessD mailing list > >>>>AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > >>>>http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > >>>>Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > >>> > >>> -- > >>> AccessD mailing list > >>> AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > >>> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > >>> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > >>> > >> > >> > >>-- > >>AccessD mailing list > >>AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > >>http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > >>Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > >> > >>No virus found in this incoming message. > >>Checked by AVG Free Edition. > >>Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.19.19/1257 - Release > >>Date: 2/3/2008 > >>5:49 PM > >> > >> > >>No virus found in this outgoing message. > >>Checked by AVG Free Edition. > >>Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.19.19/1257 - Release > >>Date: 2/3/2008 > >>5:49 PM > >> > >> > >>-- > >>AccessD mailing list > >>AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > >>http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > >>Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > >> > >> > > > > > > > > -- > > AccessD mailing list > > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > >-- >AccessD mailing list >AccessD at databaseadvisors.com >http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd >Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From lchristian at massmutual.com Tue Feb 5 14:11:56 2008 From: lchristian at massmutual.com (lchristian) Date: Tue, 05 Feb 2008 15:11:56 -0500 Subject: [AccessD] Automation of word Message-ID: <4-10979561-6072577-TPM90QL7@massmutual.com> lchristian has sent you a Secure E-Mail Message. 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From newsgrps at dalyn.co.nz Tue Feb 5 14:16:08 2008 From: newsgrps at dalyn.co.nz (David Emerson) Date: Wed, 06 Feb 2008 09:16:08 +1300 Subject: [AccessD] Faxing reports from Access In-Reply-To: <002e01c8681e$a98607a0$8119fea9@LTVM> References: <00bb01c867c9$31746c20$3097d355@minster33c3r25> <000901c867f8$f0124a60$d67e6c4c@jisshowsbs.local> <20080205173249.DGTB18083.fep03.xtra.co.nz@Dalyn.dalyn.co.nz> <002e01c8681e$a98607a0$8119fea9@LTVM> Message-ID: <20080205201420.WKSC9910.fep05.xtra.co.nz@Dalyn.dalyn.co.nz> Thanks for the suggestion, but as the faxes are client accounts, the company doesn't want them floating around the internet. David At 6/02/2008, you wrote: >David, >As an alternative, there are companies out there who will send faxes via an >email. You send them an email, they turn it into a fax and send it. they >receive a fax for you, they turn it into an email and pass it on to you. >You get a tel number to use as a fax number. >I dont think it is very expensive. Certainly less than installing a >separate fax telephone line, rental etc. Also handles attachments. i have >often looked at this but as we have a fax built into our office copier have >not actually had a need for it. >Max > >-----Original Message----- >From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com >[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of David Emerson >Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2008 5:35 PM >To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving >Subject: Re: [AccessD] Faxing reports from Access > >Thanks for both of these. I am still working through a solution with the IT >department. They don't want to put a modem on the servers to restrict >hackers dialing in. (They do have broadband on the server though). > >What they are looking at is using another computer which is on the network >and does have a fax modem. > >Will keep you all posted. > >David > >At 6/02/2008, you wrote: > >...Zetafax also works quite well without using Exchange ...just point > >to a table or query with an fax number source field and go ...I tried a > >number of fax "solutions" before going with Zeta ...once you get the > >phone number formats right, even the dumbest of users can use it > >without further support ...and every few months I get a call from their > >customer support asking if there are any problems they can help me with > >...no sales pitch, just a short call ...and they actually know who to > >put you in touch with if you do have a how-do-I question. > > > >William > > > >----- Original Message ----- > >From: "Andy Lacey" > >To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'" > > > >Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2008 2:31 AM > >Subject: Re: [AccessD] Faxing reports from Access > > > > > > >I use Zetafax from Equinox http://www.equisys.com/index.html . It's > > >not cheap but if you're an Outlook/Exchange user it's so simple > > >because all you do is send an "email" but to a fax number. Zetafax > > >picks it up and faxes it. > > > You do need a fax modem on the Exchange server though of course. > > > > > > -- Andy Lacey > > > http://www.minstersystems.co.uk > > > > > > > > >>-----Original Message----- > > >>From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > > >>[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Barry G. > > >>Herring > > >>Sent: 05 February 2008 00:19 > > >>To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' > > >>Subject: Re: [AccessD] Faxing reports from Access > > >> > > >> > > >>I have a client that is interested in faxing also, so will be > > >>monitoring this thread to its conclusion. > > >> > > >>Barry > > >> > > >> > > >>-----Original Message----- > > >>From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > > >>[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Kath > > >>Pelletti > > >>Sent: Monday, February 04, 2008 6:16 PM > > >>To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving > > >>Subject: Re: [AccessD] Faxing reports from Access > > >> > > >>Great if you can keep us posted - the next app I am writing > > >>(2003) will also > > >> > > >>require faxing from the db. > > >> > > >>Kath > > >> > > >>----- Original Message ----- > > >>From: "David Emerson" > > >>To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving" > > >> > > >>Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2008 11:01 AM > > >>Subject: Re: [AccessD] Faxing reports from Access > > >> > > >> > > >>> Thanks Kath, > > >>> > > >>> I have that article and was going to use it, but then found that > > >>> the server that it would be run on doesn't have a modem or phone > > >>attached > > >>> to it :'( > > >>> > > >>> They do have a couple of printers that are available, and these do > > >>> have fax software but neither of them seem to enable > > >>external commands > > >>> from within other applications like WinFax does :-( > > >>> > > >>> Will keep everyone posted. > > >>> > > >>> Regards > > >>> > > >>> David > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> At 5/02/2008, you wrote: > > >>>>David - There was an article in Woody's Access Watch about > > >>faxing from > > >>>>Access. I will forward the Part 2 of it to you offline - > > >>>> > > >>>>Kath > > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>>----- Original Message ----- > > >>>>From: "David Emerson" > > >>>>To: > > >>>>Sent: Monday, February 04, 2008 12:06 PM > > >>>>Subject: [AccessD] Faxing reports from Access > > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>> >I have a client who want to fax two reports to their clients (a > > >>>> >cover sheet, and a second report). They have WinFax 10 Pro > > >>>> >installed but I am having problems getting technical > > >>information on > > >>>> >how to use it. > > >>>> > > > >>>> > Does anyone have any code for sending Faxes using WinFax? > > >>>> > > > >>>> > Regards > > >>>> > > > >>>> > David Emerson > > >>>> > Dalyn Software Ltd > > >>>> > Wellington, New Zealand > > >>>> > > > >>>> > -- > > >>>> > AccessD mailing list > > >>>> > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > > >>>> > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > > >>>> > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > >>>> > > > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>>-- > > >>>>AccessD mailing list > > >>>>AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > > >>>>http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > > >>>>Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > >>> > > >>> -- > > >>> AccessD mailing list > > >>> AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > > >>> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > > >>> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > >>> > > >> > > >> > > >>-- > > >>AccessD mailing list > > >>AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > > >>http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > > >>Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > >> > > >>No virus found in this incoming message. > > >>Checked by AVG Free Edition. > > >>Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.19.19/1257 - Release > > >>Date: 2/3/2008 > > >>5:49 PM > > >> > > >> > > >>No virus found in this outgoing message. > > >>Checked by AVG Free Edition. > > >>Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.19.19/1257 - Release > > >>Date: 2/3/2008 > > >>5:49 PM > > >> > > >> > > >>-- > > >>AccessD mailing list > > >>AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > > >>http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > > >>Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > >> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > AccessD mailing list > > > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > > > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > > > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > > > > >-- > >AccessD mailing list > >AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > >http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > >Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > >-- >AccessD mailing list >AccessD at databaseadvisors.com >http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd >Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > >-- >AccessD mailing list >AccessD at databaseadvisors.com >http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd >Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From max.wanadoo at gmail.com Tue Feb 5 14:32:19 2008 From: max.wanadoo at gmail.com (Max Wanadoo) Date: Tue, 5 Feb 2008 20:32:19 -0000 Subject: [AccessD] Faxing reports from Access In-Reply-To: <20080205201420.WKSC9910.fep05.xtra.co.nz@Dalyn.dalyn.co.nz> References: <00bb01c867c9$31746c20$3097d355@minster33c3r25><000901c867f8$f0124a60$d67e6c4c@jisshowsbs.local><20080205173249.DGTB18083.fep03.xtra.co.nz@Dalyn.dalyn.co.nz><002e01c8681e$a98607a0$8119fea9@LTVM> <20080205201420.WKSC9910.fep05.xtra.co.nz@Dalyn.dalyn.co.nz> Message-ID: <005501c86836$350b12e0$8119fea9@LTVM> David, In that case there is no security difference!! Fax is not secure. Send them using Email and cGeep (www.cgeep.com). The recipient can unencrypted them and print them out (but why do they want a hard copy these day, I ask myself). Why does it need to be what is these days a antiquity (fax machine). You need to get them to have a culture change. this is the 21st Century. Fax machine went out 10-20 years ago apart from the luddites! My 2p worth, but worth stating to them, I think. The only faxes I seem to get these days are ones offering us Debt Collecting services or else ones offering cheap car leasing. If we lost our fax, we wouldn't even notice. I hope you take this in the intention which it is sent, not as a bleat! thanks Max -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of David Emerson Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2008 8:16 PM To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving Subject: Re: [AccessD] Faxing reports from Access Thanks for the suggestion, but as the faxes are client accounts, the company doesn't want them floating around the internet. David At 6/02/2008, you wrote: >David, >As an alternative, there are companies out there who will send faxes >via an email. You send them an email, they turn it into a fax and send >it. they receive a fax for you, they turn it into an email and pass it on to you. >You get a tel number to use as a fax number. >I dont think it is very expensive. Certainly less than installing a >separate fax telephone line, rental etc. Also handles attachments. i >have often looked at this but as we have a fax built into our office >copier have not actually had a need for it. >Max > >-----Original Message----- >From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com >[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of David >Emerson >Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2008 5:35 PM >To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving >Subject: Re: [AccessD] Faxing reports from Access > >Thanks for both of these. I am still working through a solution with >the IT department. They don't want to put a modem on the servers to >restrict hackers dialing in. (They do have broadband on the server though). > >What they are looking at is using another computer which is on the >network and does have a fax modem. > >Will keep you all posted. > >David > >At 6/02/2008, you wrote: > >...Zetafax also works quite well without using Exchange ...just point > >to a table or query with an fax number source field and go ...I tried > >a number of fax "solutions" before going with Zeta ...once you get > >the phone number formats right, even the dumbest of users can use it > >without further support ...and every few months I get a call from > >their customer support asking if there are any problems they can help > >me with ...no sales pitch, just a short call ...and they actually > >know who to put you in touch with if you do have a how-do-I question. > > > >William > > > >----- Original Message ----- > >From: "Andy Lacey" > >To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'" > > > >Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2008 2:31 AM > >Subject: Re: [AccessD] Faxing reports from Access > > > > > > >I use Zetafax from Equinox http://www.equisys.com/index.html . It's > > >not cheap but if you're an Outlook/Exchange user it's so simple > > >because all you do is send an "email" but to a fax number. > > >Zetafax picks it up and faxes it. > > > You do need a fax modem on the Exchange server though of course. > > > > > > -- Andy Lacey > > > http://www.minstersystems.co.uk > > > > > > > > >>-----Original Message----- > > >>From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > > >>[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Barry G. > > >>Herring > > >>Sent: 05 February 2008 00:19 > > >>To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' > > >>Subject: Re: [AccessD] Faxing reports from Access > > >> > > >> > > >>I have a client that is interested in faxing also, so will be > > >>monitoring this thread to its conclusion. > > >> > > >>Barry > > >> > > >> > > >>-----Original Message----- > > >>From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > > >>[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Kath > > >>Pelletti > > >>Sent: Monday, February 04, 2008 6:16 PM > > >>To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving > > >>Subject: Re: [AccessD] Faxing reports from Access > > >> > > >>Great if you can keep us posted - the next app I am writing > > >>(2003) will also > > >> > > >>require faxing from the db. > > >> > > >>Kath > > >> > > >>----- Original Message ----- > > >>From: "David Emerson" > > >>To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving" > > >> > > >>Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2008 11:01 AM > > >>Subject: Re: [AccessD] Faxing reports from Access > > >> > > >> > > >>> Thanks Kath, > > >>> > > >>> I have that article and was going to use it, but then found that > > >>> the server that it would be run on doesn't have a modem or phone > > >>attached > > >>> to it :'( > > >>> > > >>> They do have a couple of printers that are available, and these > > >>> do have fax software but neither of them seem to enable > > >>external commands > > >>> from within other applications like WinFax does :-( > > >>> > > >>> Will keep everyone posted. > > >>> > > >>> Regards > > >>> > > >>> David > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> At 5/02/2008, you wrote: > > >>>>David - There was an article in Woody's Access Watch about > > >>faxing from > > >>>>Access. I will forward the Part 2 of it to you offline - > > >>>> > > >>>>Kath > > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>>----- Original Message ----- > > >>>>From: "David Emerson" > > >>>>To: > > >>>>Sent: Monday, February 04, 2008 12:06 PM > > >>>>Subject: [AccessD] Faxing reports from Access > > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>> >I have a client who want to fax two reports to their clients > > >>>> >(a cover sheet, and a second report). They have WinFax 10 > > >>>> >Pro installed but I am having problems getting technical > > >>information on > > >>>> >how to use it. > > >>>> > > > >>>> > Does anyone have any code for sending Faxes using WinFax? > > >>>> > > > >>>> > Regards > > >>>> > > > >>>> > David Emerson > > >>>> > Dalyn Software Ltd > > >>>> > Wellington, New Zealand > > >>>> > > > >>>> > -- > > >>>> > AccessD mailing list > > >>>> > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > > >>>> > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > > >>>> > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > >>>> > > > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>>-- > > >>>>AccessD mailing list > > >>>>AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > > >>>>http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > > >>>>Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > >>> > > >>> -- > > >>> AccessD mailing list > > >>> AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > > >>> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > > >>> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > >>> > > >> > > >> > > >>-- > > >>AccessD mailing list > > >>AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > > >>http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > > >>Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > >> > > >>No virus found in this incoming message. > > >>Checked by AVG Free Edition. > > >>Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.19.19/1257 - Release > > >>Date: 2/3/2008 > > >>5:49 PM > > >> > > >> > > >>No virus found in this outgoing message. > > >>Checked by AVG Free Edition. > > >>Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.19.19/1257 - Release > > >>Date: 2/3/2008 > > >>5:49 PM > > >> > > >> > > >>-- > > >>AccessD mailing list > > >>AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > > >>http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > > >>Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > >> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > AccessD mailing list > > > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > > > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > > > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > > > > >-- > >AccessD mailing list > >AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > >http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > >Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > >-- >AccessD mailing list >AccessD at databaseadvisors.com >http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd >Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > >-- >AccessD mailing list >AccessD at databaseadvisors.com >http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd >Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From markamatte at hotmail.com Tue Feb 5 14:54:22 2008 From: markamatte at hotmail.com (Mark A Matte) Date: Tue, 5 Feb 2008 20:54:22 +0000 Subject: [AccessD] Faxing reports from Access In-Reply-To: <005501c86836$350b12e0$8119fea9@LTVM> References: <00bb01c867c9$31746c20$3097d355@minster33c3r25><000901c867f8$f0124a60$d67e6c4c@jisshowsbs.local><20080205173249.DGTB18083.fep03.xtra.co.nz@Dalyn.dalyn.co.nz><002e01c8681e$a98607a0$8119fea9@LTVM> <20080205201420.WKSC9910.fep05.xtra.co.nz@Dalyn.dalyn.co.nz> <005501c86836$350b12e0$8119fea9@LTVM> Message-ID: Max, I understand your comments about the fax being antiquated...In actuality it was patended prior to the telephone...but... I work for a large company...and we have faxes coming in and out from customers and contracters. Outside of the corporate world many people still quote or document jobs with pen and paper. Or if a customer gets a quote from a competitor...its been printed out...other than mail...how would this customer get us a copy to match? Its typically easier for the customer to fax something than it is for them to scan and email. Just some thoughts... Mark > From: max.wanadoo at gmail.com > To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com > Date: Tue, 5 Feb 2008 20:32:19 +0000 > Subject: Re: [AccessD] Faxing reports from Access > > David, > In that case there is no security difference!! Fax is not secure. > > Send them using Email and cGeep (www.cgeep.com). The recipient can > unencrypted them and print them out (but why do they want a hard copy these > day, I ask myself). > Why does it need to be what is these days a antiquity (fax machine). > You need to get them to have a culture change. this is the 21st Century. > Fax machine went out 10-20 years ago apart from the luddites! > My 2p worth, but worth stating to them, I think. The only faxes I seem to > get these days are ones offering us Debt Collecting services or else ones > offering cheap car leasing. If we lost our fax, we wouldn't even notice. > > I hope you take this in the intention which it is sent, not as a bleat! > > thanks > > > Max > > > -----Original Message----- > From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of David Emerson > Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2008 8:16 PM > To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving > Subject: Re: [AccessD] Faxing reports from Access > > Thanks for the suggestion, but as the faxes are client accounts, the company > doesn't want them floating around the internet. > > David > > At 6/02/2008, you wrote: >>David, >>As an alternative, there are companies out there who will send faxes >>via an email. You send them an email, they turn it into a fax and send >>it. they receive a fax for you, they turn it into an email and pass it on > to you. >>You get a tel number to use as a fax number. >>I dont think it is very expensive. Certainly less than installing a >>separate fax telephone line, rental etc. Also handles attachments. i >>have often looked at this but as we have a fax built into our office >>copier have not actually had a need for it. >>Max >> >>-----Original Message----- >>From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com >>[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of David >>Emerson >>Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2008 5:35 PM >>To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving >>Subject: Re: [AccessD] Faxing reports from Access >> >>Thanks for both of these. I am still working through a solution with >>the IT department. They don't want to put a modem on the servers to >>restrict hackers dialing in. (They do have broadband on the server though). >> >>What they are looking at is using another computer which is on the >>network and does have a fax modem. >> >>Will keep you all posted. >> >>David >> >>At 6/02/2008, you wrote: >>>...Zetafax also works quite well without using Exchange ...just point >>>to a table or query with an fax number source field and go ...I tried >>>a number of fax "solutions" before going with Zeta ...once you get >>>the phone number formats right, even the dumbest of users can use it >>>without further support ...and every few months I get a call from >>>their customer support asking if there are any problems they can help >>>me with ...no sales pitch, just a short call ...and they actually >>>know who to put you in touch with if you do have a how-do-I question. >>> >>>William >>> >>>----- Original Message ----- >>>From: "Andy Lacey" >>>To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'" >>> >>>Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2008 2:31 AM >>>Subject: Re: [AccessD] Faxing reports from Access >>> >>> >>>>I use Zetafax from Equinox http://www.equisys.com/index.html . It's >>>>not cheap but if you're an Outlook/Exchange user it's so simple >>>>because all you do is send an "email" but to a fax number. >>>>Zetafax picks it up and faxes it. >>>> You do need a fax modem on the Exchange server though of course. >>>> >>>> -- Andy Lacey >>>> http://www.minstersystems.co.uk >>>> >>>> >>>>>-----Original Message----- >>>>>From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com >>>>>[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Barry G. >>>>>Herring >>>>>Sent: 05 February 2008 00:19 >>>>>To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' >>>>>Subject: Re: [AccessD] Faxing reports from Access >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>I have a client that is interested in faxing also, so will be >>>>>monitoring this thread to its conclusion. >>>>> >>>>>Barry >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>-----Original Message----- >>>>>From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com >>>>>[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Kath >>>>>Pelletti >>>>>Sent: Monday, February 04, 2008 6:16 PM >>>>>To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving >>>>>Subject: Re: [AccessD] Faxing reports from Access >>>>> >>>>>Great if you can keep us posted - the next app I am writing >>>>>(2003) will also >>>>> >>>>>require faxing from the db. >>>>> >>>>>Kath >>>>> >>>>>----- Original Message ----- >>>>>From: "David Emerson" >>>>>To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving" >>>>> >>>>>Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2008 11:01 AM >>>>>Subject: Re: [AccessD] Faxing reports from Access >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> Thanks Kath, >>>>>> >>>>>> I have that article and was going to use it, but then found that >>>>>> the server that it would be run on doesn't have a modem or phone >>>>>attached >>>>>> to it :'( >>>>>> >>>>>> They do have a couple of printers that are available, and these >>>>>> do have fax software but neither of them seem to enable >>>>>external commands >>>>>> from within other applications like WinFax does :-( >>>>>> >>>>>> Will keep everyone posted. >>>>>> >>>>>> Regards >>>>>> >>>>>> David >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> At 5/02/2008, you wrote: >>>>>>>David - There was an article in Woody's Access Watch about >>>>>faxing from >>>>>>>Access. I will forward the Part 2 of it to you offline - >>>>>>> >>>>>>>Kath >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>----- Original Message ----- >>>>>>>From: "David Emerson" >>>>>>>To: >>>>>>>Sent: Monday, February 04, 2008 12:06 PM >>>>>>>Subject: [AccessD] Faxing reports from Access >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>I have a client who want to fax two reports to their clients >>>>>>>>(a cover sheet, and a second report). They have WinFax 10 >>>>>>>>Pro installed but I am having problems getting technical >>>>>information on >>>>>>>>how to use it. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Does anyone have any code for sending Faxes using WinFax? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Regards >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> David Emerson >>>>>>>> Dalyn Software Ltd >>>>>>>> Wellington, New Zealand >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>> AccessD mailing list >>>>>>>> AccessD at databaseadvisors.com >>>>>>>> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd >>>>>>>> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>-- >>>>>>>AccessD mailing list >>>>>>>AccessD at databaseadvisors.com >>>>>>>http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd >>>>>>>Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> AccessD mailing list >>>>>> AccessD at databaseadvisors.com >>>>>> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd >>>>>> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>-- >>>>>AccessD mailing list >>>>>AccessD at databaseadvisors.com >>>>>http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd >>>>>Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com >>>>> >>>>>No virus found in this incoming message. >>>>>Checked by AVG Free Edition. >>>>>Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.19.19/1257 - Release >>>>>Date: 2/3/2008 >>>>>5:49 PM >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>No virus found in this outgoing message. >>>>>Checked by AVG Free Edition. >>>>>Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.19.19/1257 - Release >>>>>Date: 2/3/2008 >>>>>5:49 PM >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>-- >>>>>AccessD mailing list >>>>>AccessD at databaseadvisors.com >>>>>http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd >>>>>Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> AccessD mailing list >>>> AccessD at databaseadvisors.com >>>> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd >>>> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com >>> >>> >>>-- >>>AccessD mailing list >>>AccessD at databaseadvisors.com >>>http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd >>>Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com >> >>-- >>AccessD mailing list >>AccessD at databaseadvisors.com >>http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd >>Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com >> >>-- >>AccessD mailing list >>AccessD at databaseadvisors.com >>http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd >>Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > -- > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > -- > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com _________________________________________________________________ Shed those extra pounds with MSN and The Biggest Loser! http://biggestloser.msn.com/ From fuller.artful at gmail.com Tue Feb 5 14:54:39 2008 From: fuller.artful at gmail.com (Arthur Fuller) Date: Tue, 5 Feb 2008 15:54:39 -0500 Subject: [AccessD] Automation of word In-Reply-To: <4-10979561-6072577-TPM90QL7@massmutual.com> References: <4-10979561-6072577-TPM90QL7@massmutual.com> Message-ID: <29f585dd0802051254t36884442i347329d792e84252@mail.gmail.com> What is this? It looks decidedly suspicious. A. On Tue, Feb 5, 2008 at 3:11 PM, lchristian wrote: > > > > lchristian has sent you a Secure E-Mail Message. The e-mail you have > received may include confidential information. > > Please click on the link below to read your secure e-mail message. If > you have trouble accessing your secure e-mail, see the instructions at > the bottom of this message. > > https://securemail.massmutual.com/ime?x=4-10979561-6072577-TPM90QL7 > > The secure e-mail will expire on Saturday April 05, 2008 > > > ...................................................................... > > Need help picking up your package? > > * If the Web address above is highlighted, click on it to open a > browser window. You will automatically be taken to the package. > > * If the Web address above is not highlighted, follow these steps: > - Open a Web browser window. > - Copy and paste the entire Web address into the "location" or > "address" bar of the browser. > - Press enter. > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------- > Delivered with IME(TM) > http://www.tumbleweed.com > IME is a trademark of Tumbleweed Communications Corp. > > > > > -- > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > From newsgrps at dalyn.co.nz Tue Feb 5 15:10:00 2008 From: newsgrps at dalyn.co.nz (David Emerson) Date: Wed, 06 Feb 2008 10:10:00 +1300 Subject: [AccessD] Faxing reports from Access In-Reply-To: References: <00bb01c867c9$31746c20$3097d355@minster33c3r25> <000901c867f8$f0124a60$d67e6c4c@jisshowsbs.local> <20080205173249.DGTB18083.fep03.xtra.co.nz@Dalyn.dalyn.co.nz> <002e01c8681e$a98607a0$8119fea9@LTVM> <20080205201420.WKSC9910.fep05.xtra.co.nz@Dalyn.dalyn.co.nz> <005501c86836$350b12e0$8119fea9@LTVM> Message-ID: <20080205210754.MYML17371.fep04.xtra.co.nz@Dalyn.dalyn.co.nz> Max, This is the same with the company I contract to - their clients are typically small businesses. Ma and Pa have just gotten used to "that darn new fandangle fax machine thingy" and you want them to learn e-mail? :-) Incidentally, the company offers to email the accounts as well as fax. David At 6/02/2008, you wrote: >Max, > >I understand your comments about the fax being antiquated...In >actuality it was patended prior to the telephone...but... > >I work for a large company...and we have faxes coming in and out >from customers and contracters. Outside of the corporate world many >people still quote or document jobs with pen and paper. Or if a >customer gets a quote from a competitor...its been printed >out...other than mail...how would this customer get us a copy to >match? Its typically easier for the customer to fax something than >it is for them to scan and email. > > >Just some thoughts... > >Mark > > > From: max.wanadoo at gmail.com > > To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com > > Date: Tue, 5 Feb 2008 20:32:19 +0000 > > Subject: Re: [AccessD] Faxing reports from Access > > > > David, > > In that case there is no security difference!! Fax is not secure. > > > > Send them using Email and cGeep (www.cgeep.com). The recipient can > > unencrypted them and print them out (but why do they want a hard copy these > > day, I ask myself). > > Why does it need to be what is these days a antiquity (fax machine). > > You need to get them to have a culture change. this is the 21st Century. > > Fax machine went out 10-20 years ago apart from the luddites! > > My 2p worth, but worth stating to them, I think. The only faxes I seem to > > get these days are ones offering us Debt Collecting services or else ones > > offering cheap car leasing. If we lost our fax, we wouldn't even notice. > > > > I hope you take this in the intention which it is sent, not as a bleat! > > > > thanks > > > > > > Max > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > > [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of David Emerson > > Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2008 8:16 PM > > To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving > > Subject: Re: [AccessD] Faxing reports from Access > > > > Thanks for the suggestion, but as the faxes are client accounts, > the company > > doesn't want them floating around the internet. > > > > David > > > > At 6/02/2008, you wrote: > >>David, > >>As an alternative, there are companies out there who will send faxes > >>via an email. You send them an email, they turn it into a fax and send > >>it. they receive a fax for you, they turn it into an email and pass it on > > to you. > >>You get a tel number to use as a fax number. > >>I dont think it is very expensive. Certainly less than installing a > >>separate fax telephone line, rental etc. Also handles attachments. i > >>have often looked at this but as we have a fax built into our office > >>copier have not actually had a need for it. > >>Max > >> > >>-----Original Message----- > >>From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > >>[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of David > >>Emerson > >>Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2008 5:35 PM > >>To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving > >>Subject: Re: [AccessD] Faxing reports from Access > >> > >>Thanks for both of these. I am still working through a solution with > >>the IT department. They don't want to put a modem on the servers to > >>restrict hackers dialing in. (They do have broadband on the server though). > >> > >>What they are looking at is using another computer which is on the > >>network and does have a fax modem. > >> > >>Will keep you all posted. > >> > >>David > >> > >>At 6/02/2008, you wrote: > >>>...Zetafax also works quite well without using Exchange ...just point > >>>to a table or query with an fax number source field and go ...I tried > >>>a number of fax "solutions" before going with Zeta ...once you get > >>>the phone number formats right, even the dumbest of users can use it > >>>without further support ...and every few months I get a call from > >>>their customer support asking if there are any problems they can help > >>>me with ...no sales pitch, just a short call ...and they actually > >>>know who to put you in touch with if you do have a how-do-I question. > >>> > >>>William > >>> > >>>----- Original Message ----- > >>>From: "Andy Lacey" > >>>To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'" > >>> > >>>Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2008 2:31 AM > >>>Subject: Re: [AccessD] Faxing reports from Access > >>> > >>> > >>>>I use Zetafax from Equinox http://www.equisys.com/index.html . It's > >>>>not cheap but if you're an Outlook/Exchange user it's so simple > >>>>because all you do is send an "email" but to a fax number. > >>>>Zetafax picks it up and faxes it. > >>>> You do need a fax modem on the Exchange server though of course. > >>>> > >>>> -- Andy Lacey > >>>> http://www.minstersystems.co.uk > >>>> > >>>> > >>>>>-----Original Message----- > >>>>>From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > >>>>>[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Barry G. > >>>>>Herring > >>>>>Sent: 05 February 2008 00:19 > >>>>>To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' > >>>>>Subject: Re: [AccessD] Faxing reports from Access > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>>I have a client that is interested in faxing also, so will be > >>>>>monitoring this thread to its conclusion. > >>>>> > >>>>>Barry > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>>-----Original Message----- > >>>>>From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > >>>>>[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Kath > >>>>>Pelletti > >>>>>Sent: Monday, February 04, 2008 6:16 PM > >>>>>To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving > >>>>>Subject: Re: [AccessD] Faxing reports from Access > >>>>> > >>>>>Great if you can keep us posted - the next app I am writing > >>>>>(2003) will also > >>>>> > >>>>>require faxing from the db. > >>>>> > >>>>>Kath > >>>>> > >>>>>----- Original Message ----- > >>>>>From: "David Emerson" > >>>>>To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving" > >>>>> > >>>>>Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2008 11:01 AM > >>>>>Subject: Re: [AccessD] Faxing reports from Access > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>>> Thanks Kath, > >>>>>> > >>>>>> I have that article and was going to use it, but then found that > >>>>>> the server that it would be run on doesn't have a modem or phone > >>>>>attached > >>>>>> to it :'( > >>>>>> > >>>>>> They do have a couple of printers that are available, and these > >>>>>> do have fax software but neither of them seem to enable > >>>>>external commands > >>>>>> from within other applications like WinFax does :-( > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Will keep everyone posted. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Regards > >>>>>> > >>>>>> David > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> At 5/02/2008, you wrote: > >>>>>>>David - There was an article in Woody's Access Watch about > >>>>>faxing from > >>>>>>>Access. I will forward the Part 2 of it to you offline - > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>>Kath > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>>----- Original Message ----- > >>>>>>>From: "David Emerson" > >>>>>>>To: > >>>>>>>Sent: Monday, February 04, 2008 12:06 PM > >>>>>>>Subject: [AccessD] Faxing reports from Access > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>I have a client who want to fax two reports to their clients > >>>>>>>>(a cover sheet, and a second report). They have WinFax 10 > >>>>>>>>Pro installed but I am having problems getting technical > >>>>>information on > >>>>>>>>how to use it. > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Does anyone have any code for sending Faxes using WinFax? > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Regards > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> David Emerson > >>>>>>>> Dalyn Software Ltd > >>>>>>>> Wellington, New Zealand > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> -- > >>>>>>>> AccessD mailing list > >>>>>>>> AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > >>>>>>>> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > >>>>>>>> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>>-- > >>>>>>>AccessD mailing list > >>>>>>>AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > >>>>>>>http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > >>>>>>>Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > >>>>>> > >>>>>> -- > >>>>>> AccessD mailing list > >>>>>> AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > >>>>>> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > >>>>>> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > >>>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>>-- > >>>>>AccessD mailing list > >>>>>AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > >>>>>http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > >>>>>Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > >>>>> > >>>>>No virus found in this incoming message. > >>>>>Checked by AVG Free Edition. > >>>>>Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.19.19/1257 - Release > >>>>>Date: 2/3/2008 > >>>>>5:49 PM > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>>No virus found in this outgoing message. > >>>>>Checked by AVG Free Edition. > >>>>>Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.19.19/1257 - Release > >>>>>Date: 2/3/2008 > >>>>>5:49 PM > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>>-- > >>>>>AccessD mailing list > >>>>>AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > >>>>>http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > >>>>>Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> -- > >>>> AccessD mailing list > >>>> AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > >>>> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > >>>> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > >>> > >>> > >>>-- > >>>AccessD mailing list > >>>AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > >>>http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > >>>Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > >> > >>-- > >>AccessD mailing list > >>AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > >>http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > >>Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > >> > >>-- > >>AccessD mailing list > >>AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > >>http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > >>Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > > > -- > > AccessD mailing list > > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > > > -- > > AccessD mailing list > > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > >_________________________________________________________________ >Shed those extra pounds with MSN and The Biggest Loser! >http://biggestloser.msn.com/ >-- >AccessD mailing list >AccessD at databaseadvisors.com >http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd >Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From max.wanadoo at gmail.com Tue Feb 5 15:17:56 2008 From: max.wanadoo at gmail.com (Max Wanadoo) Date: Tue, 5 Feb 2008 21:17:56 -0000 Subject: [AccessD] Faxing reports from Access In-Reply-To: <20080205210754.MYML17371.fep04.xtra.co.nz@Dalyn.dalyn.co.nz> References: <00bb01c867c9$31746c20$3097d355@minster33c3r25><000901c867f8$f0124a60$d67e6c4c@jisshowsbs.local><20080205173249.DGTB18083.fep03.xtra.co.nz@Dalyn.dalyn.co.nz><002e01c8681e$a98607a0$8119fea9@LTVM><20080205201420.WKSC9910.fep05.xtra.co.nz@Dalyn.dalyn.co.nz><005501c86836$350b12e0$8119fea9@LTVM> <20080205210754.MYML17371.fep04.xtra.co.nz@Dalyn.dalyn.co.nz> Message-ID: <000701c8683c$949e2de0$8119fea9@LTVM> ok, I accept all that. And, given that is the situation "outside of my world", then I guess you do not have many choices left to you. They need a modem, but from what I can recall (all those years ago before broadband ), I seem to recall that you could set it to "dial out when required and then hang up" and also "Warn if the outgoing number changes", which should give you some security. Also, there is such a thing as "dial-back", when somebody calls in, the modem acks, hangs up and dials back to a listed number (but not sure if that applies in this situation). Hmmm. Difficulty David. That just about exhausts my suggestions. Regards Max -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of David Emerson Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2008 9:10 PM To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving Subject: Re: [AccessD] Faxing reports from Access Max, This is the same with the company I contract to - their clients are typically small businesses. Ma and Pa have just gotten used to "that darn new fandangle fax machine thingy" and you want them to learn e-mail? :-) Incidentally, the company offers to email the accounts as well as fax. David At 6/02/2008, you wrote: >Max, > >I understand your comments about the fax being antiquated...In >actuality it was patended prior to the telephone...but... > >I work for a large company...and we have faxes coming in and out from >customers and contracters. Outside of the corporate world many people >still quote or document jobs with pen and paper. Or if a customer gets >a quote from a competitor...its been printed out...other than >mail...how would this customer get us a copy to match? Its typically >easier for the customer to fax something than it is for them to scan >and email. > > >Just some thoughts... > >Mark > > > From: max.wanadoo at gmail.com > > To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com > > Date: Tue, 5 Feb 2008 20:32:19 +0000 > > Subject: Re: [AccessD] Faxing reports from Access > > > > David, > > In that case there is no security difference!! Fax is not secure. > > > > Send them using Email and cGeep (www.cgeep.com). The recipient can > > unencrypted them and print them out (but why do they want a hard > > copy these day, I ask myself). > > Why does it need to be what is these days a antiquity (fax machine). > > You need to get them to have a culture change. this is the 21st Century. > > Fax machine went out 10-20 years ago apart from the luddites! > > My 2p worth, but worth stating to them, I think. The only faxes I > > seem to get these days are ones offering us Debt Collecting services > > or else ones offering cheap car leasing. If we lost our fax, we wouldn't even notice. > > > > I hope you take this in the intention which it is sent, not as a bleat! > > > > thanks > > > > > > Max > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > > [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of David > > Emerson > > Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2008 8:16 PM > > To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving > > Subject: Re: [AccessD] Faxing reports from Access > > > > Thanks for the suggestion, but as the faxes are client accounts, > the company > > doesn't want them floating around the internet. > > > > David > > > > At 6/02/2008, you wrote: > >>David, > >>As an alternative, there are companies out there who will send faxes > >>via an email. You send them an email, they turn it into a fax and > >>send it. they receive a fax for you, they turn it into an email and > >>pass it on > > to you. > >>You get a tel number to use as a fax number. > >>I dont think it is very expensive. Certainly less than installing a > >>separate fax telephone line, rental etc. Also handles attachments. i > >>have often looked at this but as we have a fax built into our office > >>copier have not actually had a need for it. > >>Max > >> > >>-----Original Message----- > >>From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > >>[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of David > >>Emerson > >>Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2008 5:35 PM > >>To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving > >>Subject: Re: [AccessD] Faxing reports from Access > >> > >>Thanks for both of these. I am still working through a solution with > >>the IT department. They don't want to put a modem on the servers to > >>restrict hackers dialing in. (They do have broadband on the server though). > >> > >>What they are looking at is using another computer which is on the > >>network and does have a fax modem. > >> > >>Will keep you all posted. > >> > >>David > >> > >>At 6/02/2008, you wrote: > >>>...Zetafax also works quite well without using Exchange ...just > >>>point to a table or query with an fax number source field and go > >>>...I tried a number of fax "solutions" before going with Zeta > >>>...once you get the phone number formats right, even the dumbest of > >>>users can use it without further support ...and every few months I > >>>get a call from their customer support asking if there are any > >>>problems they can help me with ...no sales pitch, just a short call > >>>...and they actually know who to put you in touch with if you do have a how-do-I question. > >>> > >>>William > >>> > >>>----- Original Message ----- > >>>From: "Andy Lacey" > >>>To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'" > >>> > >>>Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2008 2:31 AM > >>>Subject: Re: [AccessD] Faxing reports from Access > >>> > >>> > >>>>I use Zetafax from Equinox http://www.equisys.com/index.html . > >>>>It's not cheap but if you're an Outlook/Exchange user it's so > >>>>simple because all you do is send an "email" but to a fax number. > >>>>Zetafax picks it up and faxes it. > >>>> You do need a fax modem on the Exchange server though of course. > >>>> > >>>> -- Andy Lacey > >>>> http://www.minstersystems.co.uk > >>>> > >>>> > >>>>>-----Original Message----- > >>>>>From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > >>>>>[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Barry G. > >>>>>Herring > >>>>>Sent: 05 February 2008 00:19 > >>>>>To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' > >>>>>Subject: Re: [AccessD] Faxing reports from Access > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>>I have a client that is interested in faxing also, so will be > >>>>>monitoring this thread to its conclusion. > >>>>> > >>>>>Barry > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>>-----Original Message----- > >>>>>From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > >>>>>[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Kath > >>>>>Pelletti > >>>>>Sent: Monday, February 04, 2008 6:16 PM > >>>>>To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving > >>>>>Subject: Re: [AccessD] Faxing reports from Access > >>>>> > >>>>>Great if you can keep us posted - the next app I am writing > >>>>>(2003) will also > >>>>> > >>>>>require faxing from the db. > >>>>> > >>>>>Kath > >>>>> > >>>>>----- Original Message ----- > >>>>>From: "David Emerson" > >>>>>To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving" > >>>>> > >>>>>Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2008 11:01 AM > >>>>>Subject: Re: [AccessD] Faxing reports from Access > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>>> Thanks Kath, > >>>>>> > >>>>>> I have that article and was going to use it, but then found > >>>>>> that the server that it would be run on doesn't have a modem or > >>>>>> phone > >>>>>attached > >>>>>> to it :'( > >>>>>> > >>>>>> They do have a couple of printers that are available, and these > >>>>>> do have fax software but neither of them seem to enable > >>>>>external commands > >>>>>> from within other applications like WinFax does :-( > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Will keep everyone posted. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Regards > >>>>>> > >>>>>> David > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> At 5/02/2008, you wrote: > >>>>>>>David - There was an article in Woody's Access Watch about > >>>>>faxing from > >>>>>>>Access. I will forward the Part 2 of it to you offline - > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>>Kath > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>>----- Original Message ----- > >>>>>>>From: "David Emerson" > >>>>>>>To: > >>>>>>>Sent: Monday, February 04, 2008 12:06 PM > >>>>>>>Subject: [AccessD] Faxing reports from Access > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>I have a client who want to fax two reports to their clients > >>>>>>>>(a cover sheet, and a second report). They have WinFax 10 Pro > >>>>>>>>installed but I am having problems getting technical > >>>>>information on > >>>>>>>>how to use it. > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Does anyone have any code for sending Faxes using WinFax? > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Regards > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> David Emerson > >>>>>>>> Dalyn Software Ltd > >>>>>>>> Wellington, New Zealand > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> -- > >>>>>>>> AccessD mailing list > >>>>>>>> AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > >>>>>>>> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > >>>>>>>> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>>-- > >>>>>>>AccessD mailing list > >>>>>>>AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > >>>>>>>http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > >>>>>>>Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > >>>>>> > >>>>>> -- > >>>>>> AccessD mailing list > >>>>>> AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > >>>>>> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > >>>>>> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > >>>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>>-- > >>>>>AccessD mailing list > >>>>>AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > >>>>>http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > >>>>>Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > >>>>> > >>>>>No virus found in this incoming message. > >>>>>Checked by AVG Free Edition. > >>>>>Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.19.19/1257 - Release > >>>>>Date: 2/3/2008 > >>>>>5:49 PM > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>>No virus found in this outgoing message. > >>>>>Checked by AVG Free Edition. > >>>>>Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.19.19/1257 - Release > >>>>>Date: 2/3/2008 > >>>>>5:49 PM > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>>-- > >>>>>AccessD mailing list > >>>>>AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > >>>>>http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > >>>>>Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> -- > >>>> AccessD mailing list > >>>> AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > >>>> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > >>>> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > >>> > >>> > >>>-- > >>>AccessD mailing list > >>>AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > >>>http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > >>>Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > >> > >>-- > >>AccessD mailing list > >>AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > >>http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > >>Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > >> > >>-- > >>AccessD mailing list > >>AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > >>http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > >>Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > > > -- > > AccessD mailing list > > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > > > -- > > AccessD mailing list > > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > >_________________________________________________________________ >Shed those extra pounds with MSN and The Biggest Loser! >http://biggestloser.msn.com/ >-- >AccessD mailing list >AccessD at databaseadvisors.com >http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd >Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com Tue Feb 5 15:35:13 2008 From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (jwcolby) Date: Tue, 5 Feb 2008 16:35:13 -0500 Subject: [AccessD] Automation of word In-Reply-To: <29f585dd0802051254t36884442i347329d792e84252@mail.gmail.com> References: <4-10979561-6072577-TPM90QL7@massmutual.com> <29f585dd0802051254t36884442i347329d792e84252@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <00eb01c8683e$fe4c8d70$0401a8c0@M90> LOL. I actually went there. It is a response to Max's message. HTML email through the browser. John W. Colby Colby Consulting www.ColbyConsulting.com -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Arthur Fuller Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2008 3:55 PM To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving Subject: Re: [AccessD] Automation of word What is this? It looks decidedly suspicious. A. On Tue, Feb 5, 2008 at 3:11 PM, lchristian wrote: > > > > lchristian has sent you a Secure E-Mail Message. The e-mail you have > received may include confidential information. > > Please click on the link below to read your secure e-mail message. 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You will automatically be taken to the package. > > * If the Web address above is not highlighted, follow these steps: > - Open a Web browser window. > - Copy and paste the entire Web address into the "location" or > "address" bar of the browser. > - Press enter. > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------- > Delivered with IME(TM) > http://www.tumbleweed.com > IME is a trademark of Tumbleweed Communications Corp. > > > > > -- > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From markamatte at hotmail.com Tue Feb 5 15:49:35 2008 From: markamatte at hotmail.com (Mark A Matte) Date: Tue, 5 Feb 2008 21:49:35 +0000 Subject: [AccessD] Faxing reports from Access In-Reply-To: <000701c8683c$949e2de0$8119fea9@LTVM> References: <00bb01c867c9$31746c20$3097d355@minster33c3r25><000901c867f8$f0124a60$d67e6c4c@jisshowsbs.local><20080205173249.DGTB18083.fep03.xtra.co.nz@Dalyn.dalyn.co.nz><002e01c8681e$a98607a0$8119fea9@LTVM><20080205201420.WKSC9910.fep05.xtra.co.nz@Dalyn.dalyn.co.nz><005501c86836$350b12e0$8119fea9@LTVM> <20080205210754.MYML17371.fep04.xtra.co.nz@Dalyn.dalyn.co.nz> <000701c8683c$949e2de0$8119fea9@LTVM> Message-ID: Forgot to mention what we use!!! "RightFAX" Good Luck, Mark > From: max.wanadoo at gmail.com > To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com > Date: Tue, 5 Feb 2008 21:17:56 +0000 > Subject: Re: [AccessD] Faxing reports from Access > > ok, I accept all that. And, given that is the situation "outside of my > world", then I guess you do not have many choices left to you. They need a > modem, but from what I can recall (all those years ago before broadband > ), I seem to recall that you could set it to "dial out when required and > then hang up" and also "Warn if the outgoing number changes", which should > give you some security. Also, there is such a thing as "dial-back", when > somebody calls in, the modem acks, hangs up and dials back to a listed > number (but not sure if that applies in this situation). > Hmmm. Difficulty David. That just about exhausts my suggestions. > Regards > Max > > > -----Original Message----- > From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of David Emerson > Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2008 9:10 PM > To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving > Subject: Re: [AccessD] Faxing reports from Access > > Max, > > This is the same with the company I contract to - their clients are > typically small businesses. Ma and Pa have just gotten used to "that darn > new fandangle fax machine thingy" and you want them to learn e-mail? :-) > > Incidentally, the company offers to email the accounts as well as fax. > > David > > > At 6/02/2008, you wrote: > >>Max, >> >>I understand your comments about the fax being antiquated...In >>actuality it was patended prior to the telephone...but... >> >>I work for a large company...and we have faxes coming in and out from >>customers and contracters. Outside of the corporate world many people >>still quote or document jobs with pen and paper. Or if a customer gets >>a quote from a competitor...its been printed out...other than >>mail...how would this customer get us a copy to match? Its typically >>easier for the customer to fax something than it is for them to scan >>and email. >> >> >>Just some thoughts... >> >>Mark >> >>> From: max.wanadoo at gmail.com >>> To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com >>> Date: Tue, 5 Feb 2008 20:32:19 +0000 >>> Subject: Re: [AccessD] Faxing reports from Access >>> >>> David, >>> In that case there is no security difference!! Fax is not secure. >>> >>> Send them using Email and cGeep (www.cgeep.com). The recipient can >>> unencrypted them and print them out (but why do they want a hard >>> copy these day, I ask myself). >>> Why does it need to be what is these days a antiquity (fax machine). >>> You need to get them to have a culture change. this is the 21st Century. >>> Fax machine went out 10-20 years ago apart from the luddites! >>> My 2p worth, but worth stating to them, I think. The only faxes I >>> seem to get these days are ones offering us Debt Collecting services >>> or else ones offering cheap car leasing. If we lost our fax, we wouldn't > even notice. >>> >>> I hope you take this in the intention which it is sent, not as a bleat! >>> >>> thanks >>> >>> >>> Max >>> >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com >>> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of David >>> Emerson >>> Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2008 8:16 PM >>> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving >>> Subject: Re: [AccessD] Faxing reports from Access >>> >>> Thanks for the suggestion, but as the faxes are client accounts, >> the company >>> doesn't want them floating around the internet. >>> >>> David >>> >>> At 6/02/2008, you wrote: >>>>David, >>>>As an alternative, there are companies out there who will send faxes >>>>via an email. You send them an email, they turn it into a fax and >>>>send it. they receive a fax for you, they turn it into an email and >>>>pass it on >>> to you. >>>>You get a tel number to use as a fax number. >>>>I dont think it is very expensive. Certainly less than installing a >>>>separate fax telephone line, rental etc. Also handles attachments. i >>>>have often looked at this but as we have a fax built into our office >>>>copier have not actually had a need for it. >>>>Max >>>> >>>>-----Original Message----- >>>>From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com >>>>[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of David >>>>Emerson >>>>Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2008 5:35 PM >>>>To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving >>>>Subject: Re: [AccessD] Faxing reports from Access >>>> >>>>Thanks for both of these. I am still working through a solution with >>>>the IT department. They don't want to put a modem on the servers to >>>>restrict hackers dialing in. (They do have broadband on the server > though). >>>> >>>>What they are looking at is using another computer which is on the >>>>network and does have a fax modem. >>>> >>>>Will keep you all posted. >>>> >>>>David >>>> >>>>At 6/02/2008, you wrote: >>>>>...Zetafax also works quite well without using Exchange ...just >>>>>point to a table or query with an fax number source field and go >>>>>...I tried a number of fax "solutions" before going with Zeta >>>>>...once you get the phone number formats right, even the dumbest of >>>>>users can use it without further support ...and every few months I >>>>>get a call from their customer support asking if there are any >>>>>problems they can help me with ...no sales pitch, just a short call >>>>>...and they actually know who to put you in touch with if you do have a > how-do-I question. >>>>> >>>>>William >>>>> >>>>>----- Original Message ----- >>>>>From: "Andy Lacey" >>>>>To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'" >>>>> >>>>>Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2008 2:31 AM >>>>>Subject: Re: [AccessD] Faxing reports from Access >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>I use Zetafax from Equinox http://www.equisys.com/index.html . >>>>>>It's not cheap but if you're an Outlook/Exchange user it's so >>>>>>simple because all you do is send an "email" but to a fax number. >>>>>>Zetafax picks it up and faxes it. >>>>>> You do need a fax modem on the Exchange server though of course. >>>>>> >>>>>> -- Andy Lacey >>>>>> http://www.minstersystems.co.uk >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>>-----Original Message----- >>>>>>>From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com >>>>>>>[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Barry G. >>>>>>>Herring >>>>>>>Sent: 05 February 2008 00:19 >>>>>>>To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' >>>>>>>Subject: Re: [AccessD] Faxing reports from Access >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>I have a client that is interested in faxing also, so will be >>>>>>>monitoring this thread to its conclusion. >>>>>>> >>>>>>>Barry >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>-----Original Message----- >>>>>>>From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com >>>>>>>[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Kath >>>>>>>Pelletti >>>>>>>Sent: Monday, February 04, 2008 6:16 PM >>>>>>>To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving >>>>>>>Subject: Re: [AccessD] Faxing reports from Access >>>>>>> >>>>>>>Great if you can keep us posted - the next app I am writing >>>>>>>(2003) will also >>>>>>> >>>>>>>require faxing from the db. >>>>>>> >>>>>>>Kath >>>>>>> >>>>>>>----- Original Message ----- >>>>>>>From: "David Emerson" >>>>>>>To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving" >>>>>>> >>>>>>>Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2008 11:01 AM >>>>>>>Subject: Re: [AccessD] Faxing reports from Access >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Thanks Kath, >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I have that article and was going to use it, but then found >>>>>>>> that the server that it would be run on doesn't have a modem or >>>>>>>> phone >>>>>>>attached >>>>>>>> to it :'( >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> They do have a couple of printers that are available, and these >>>>>>>> do have fax software but neither of them seem to enable >>>>>>>external commands >>>>>>>> from within other applications like WinFax does :-( >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Will keep everyone posted. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Regards >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> David >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> At 5/02/2008, you wrote: >>>>>>>>>David - There was an article in Woody's Access Watch about >>>>>>>faxing from >>>>>>>>>Access. I will forward the Part 2 of it to you offline - >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>Kath >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>----- Original Message ----- >>>>>>>>>From: "David Emerson" >>>>>>>>>To: >>>>>>>>>Sent: Monday, February 04, 2008 12:06 PM >>>>>>>>>Subject: [AccessD] Faxing reports from Access >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>I have a client who want to fax two reports to their clients >>>>>>>>>>(a cover sheet, and a second report). They have WinFax 10 Pro >>>>>>>>>>installed but I am having problems getting technical >>>>>>>information on >>>>>>>>>>how to use it. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Does anyone have any code for sending Faxes using WinFax? >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Regards >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> David Emerson >>>>>>>>>> Dalyn Software Ltd >>>>>>>>>> Wellington, New Zealand >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>> AccessD mailing list >>>>>>>>>> AccessD at databaseadvisors.com >>>>>>>>>> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd >>>>>>>>>> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>-- >>>>>>>>>AccessD mailing list >>>>>>>>>AccessD at databaseadvisors.com >>>>>>>>>http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd >>>>>>>>>Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>> AccessD mailing list >>>>>>>> AccessD at databaseadvisors.com >>>>>>>> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd >>>>>>>> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>-- >>>>>>>AccessD mailing list >>>>>>>AccessD at databaseadvisors.com >>>>>>>http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd >>>>>>>Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com >>>>>>> >>>>>>>No virus found in this incoming message. >>>>>>>Checked by AVG Free Edition. >>>>>>>Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.19.19/1257 - Release >>>>>>>Date: 2/3/2008 >>>>>>>5:49 PM >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>No virus found in this outgoing message. >>>>>>>Checked by AVG Free Edition. >>>>>>>Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.19.19/1257 - Release >>>>>>>Date: 2/3/2008 >>>>>>>5:49 PM >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>-- >>>>>>>AccessD mailing list >>>>>>>AccessD at databaseadvisors.com >>>>>>>http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd >>>>>>>Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> AccessD mailing list >>>>>> AccessD at databaseadvisors.com >>>>>> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd >>>>>> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>-- >>>>>AccessD mailing list >>>>>AccessD at databaseadvisors.com >>>>>http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd >>>>>Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com >>>> >>>>-- >>>>AccessD mailing list >>>>AccessD at databaseadvisors.com >>>>http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd >>>>Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com >>>> >>>>-- >>>>AccessD mailing list >>>>AccessD at databaseadvisors.com >>>>http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd >>>>Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com >>> >>> -- >>> AccessD mailing list >>> AccessD at databaseadvisors.com >>> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd >>> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com >>> >>> -- >>> AccessD mailing list >>> AccessD at databaseadvisors.com >>> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd >>> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com >> >>_________________________________________________________________ >>Shed those extra pounds with MSN and The Biggest Loser! >>http://biggestloser.msn.com/ >>-- >>AccessD mailing list >>AccessD at databaseadvisors.com >>http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd >>Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > -- > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > -- > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com _________________________________________________________________ Shed those extra pounds with MSN and The Biggest Loser! http://biggestloser.msn.com/ From garykjos at gmail.com Tue Feb 5 16:16:19 2008 From: garykjos at gmail.com (Gary Kjos) Date: Tue, 5 Feb 2008 16:16:19 -0600 Subject: [AccessD] Automation of word In-Reply-To: <00eb01c8683e$fe4c8d70$0401a8c0@M90> References: <4-10979561-6072577-TPM90QL7@massmutual.com> <29f585dd0802051254t36884442i347329d792e84252@mail.gmail.com> <00eb01c8683e$fe4c8d70$0401a8c0@M90> Message-ID: Yes I beleive we've been through this before. Last time it was an out of office reply as I recall ;-) GK On 2/5/08, jwcolby wrote: > LOL. I actually went there. It is a response to Max's message. HTML email > through the browser. > > > John W. Colby > Colby Consulting > www.ColbyConsulting.com > -----Original Message----- > From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Arthur Fuller > Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2008 3:55 PM > To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving > Subject: Re: [AccessD] Automation of word > > What is this? It looks decidedly suspicious. > > A. > > On Tue, Feb 5, 2008 at 3:11 PM, lchristian > wrote: > > > > > > > > > lchristian has sent you a Secure E-Mail Message. The e-mail you have > > received may include confidential information. > > > > Please click on the link below to read your secure e-mail message. If > > you have trouble accessing your secure e-mail, see the instructions at > > the bottom of this message. > > > > https://securemail.massmutual.com/ime?x=4-10979561-6072577-TPM90QL7 > > > > The secure e-mail will expire on Saturday April 05, 2008 > > > > > > ...................................................................... > > > > Need help picking up your package? > > > > * If the Web address above is highlighted, click on it to open a > > browser window. You will automatically be taken to the package. > > > > * If the Web address above is not highlighted, follow these steps: > > - Open a Web browser window. > > - Copy and paste the entire Web address into the "location" or > > "address" bar of the browser. > > - Press enter. > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Delivered with IME(TM) > > http://www.tumbleweed.com > > IME is a trademark of Tumbleweed Communications Corp. > > > > > > > > > > -- > > AccessD mailing list > > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > > -- > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > -- > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > -- Gary Kjos garykjos at gmail.com From wdhindman at dejpolsystems.com Tue Feb 5 16:17:40 2008 From: wdhindman at dejpolsystems.com (William Hindman) Date: Tue, 5 Feb 2008 17:17:40 -0500 Subject: [AccessD] Faxing reports from Access References: <00bb01c867c9$31746c20$3097d355@minster33c3r25><000901c867f8$f0124a60$d67e6c4c@jisshowsbs.local> <20080205173249.DGTB18083.fep03.xtra.co.nz@Dalyn.dalyn.co.nz> Message-ID: <003501c86844$ecbc7e20$d67e6c4c@jisshowsbs.local> ...sorry but that galls me ...it's as simple as having the line restricted to outgoing calls only which is common as hell ...you can do it at the phone line or on any decent modem or fax board. William ----- Original Message ----- From: "David Emerson" To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving" Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2008 12:34 PM Subject: Re: [AccessD] Faxing reports from Access > Thanks for both of these. I am still working through a solution with > the IT department. They don't want to put a modem on the servers to > restrict hackers dialing in. (They do have broadband on the server > though). > > What they are looking at is using another computer which is on the > network and does have a fax modem. > > Will keep you all posted. > > David > > At 6/02/2008, you wrote: >>...Zetafax also works quite well without using Exchange ...just point to a >>table or query with an fax number source field and go ...I tried a number >>of >>fax "solutions" before going with Zeta ...once you get the phone number >>formats right, even the dumbest of users can use it without further >>support >>...and every few months I get a call from their customer support asking if >>there are any problems they can help me with ...no sales pitch, just a >>short >>call ...and they actually know who to put you in touch with if you do have >>a >>how-do-I question. >> >>William >> >>----- Original Message ----- >>From: "Andy Lacey" >>To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'" >> >>Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2008 2:31 AM >>Subject: Re: [AccessD] Faxing reports from Access >> >> >> >I use Zetafax from Equinox http://www.equisys.com/index.html . It's not >> > cheap but if you're an Outlook/Exchange user it's so simple because all >> > you >> > do is send an "email" but to a fax number. Zetafax picks it up and >> > faxes >> > it. >> > You do need a fax modem on the Exchange server though of course. >> > >> > -- Andy Lacey >> > http://www.minstersystems.co.uk >> > >> > >> >>-----Original Message----- >> >>From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com >> >>[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of >> >>Barry G. Herring >> >>Sent: 05 February 2008 00:19 >> >>To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' >> >>Subject: Re: [AccessD] Faxing reports from Access >> >> >> >> >> >>I have a client that is interested in faxing also, so will be >> >>monitoring this thread to its conclusion. >> >> >> >>Barry >> >> >> >> >> >>-----Original Message----- >> >>From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com >> >>[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of >> >>Kath Pelletti >> >>Sent: Monday, February 04, 2008 6:16 PM >> >>To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving >> >>Subject: Re: [AccessD] Faxing reports from Access >> >> >> >>Great if you can keep us posted - the next app I am writing >> >>(2003) will also >> >> >> >>require faxing from the db. >> >> >> >>Kath >> >> >> >>----- Original Message ----- >> >>From: "David Emerson" >> >>To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving" >> >> >> >>Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2008 11:01 AM >> >>Subject: Re: [AccessD] Faxing reports from Access >> >> >> >> >> >>> Thanks Kath, >> >>> >> >>> I have that article and was going to use it, but then found that the >> >>> server that it would be run on doesn't have a modem or phone >> >>attached >> >>> to it :'( >> >>> >> >>> They do have a couple of printers that are available, and these do >> >>> have fax software but neither of them seem to enable >> >>external commands >> >>> from within other applications like WinFax does :-( >> >>> >> >>> Will keep everyone posted. >> >>> >> >>> Regards >> >>> >> >>> David >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> At 5/02/2008, you wrote: >> >>>>David - There was an article in Woody's Access Watch about >> >>faxing from >> >>>>Access. I will forward the Part 2 of it to you offline - >> >>>> >> >>>>Kath >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>>----- Original Message ----- >> >>>>From: "David Emerson" >> >>>>To: >> >>>>Sent: Monday, February 04, 2008 12:06 PM >> >>>>Subject: [AccessD] Faxing reports from Access >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >I have a client who want to fax two reports to their clients (a >> >>>> >cover sheet, and a second report). They have WinFax 10 Pro >> >>>> >installed but I am having problems getting technical >> >>information on >> >>>> >how to use it. >> >>>> > >> >>>> > Does anyone have any code for sending Faxes using WinFax? >> >>>> > >> >>>> > Regards >> >>>> > >> >>>> > David Emerson >> >>>> > Dalyn Software Ltd >> >>>> > Wellington, New Zealand >> >>>> > >> >>>> > -- >> >>>> > AccessD mailing list >> >>>> > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com >> >>>> > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd >> >>>> > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com >> >>>> > >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>>-- >> >>>>AccessD mailing list >> >>>>AccessD at databaseadvisors.com >> >>>>http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd >> >>>>Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com >> >>> >> >>> -- >> >>> AccessD mailing list >> >>> AccessD at databaseadvisors.com >> >>> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd >> >>> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>-- >> >>AccessD mailing list >> >>AccessD at databaseadvisors.com >> >>http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd >> >>Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com >> >> >> >>No virus found in this incoming message. >> >>Checked by AVG Free Edition. >> >>Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.19.19/1257 - Release >> >>Date: 2/3/2008 >> >>5:49 PM >> >> >> >> >> >>No virus found in this outgoing message. >> >>Checked by AVG Free Edition. >> >>Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.19.19/1257 - Release >> >>Date: 2/3/2008 >> >>5:49 PM >> >> >> >> >> >>-- >> >>AccessD mailing list >> >>AccessD at databaseadvisors.com >> >>http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd >> >>Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com >> >> >> >> >> > >> > >> > >> > -- >> > AccessD mailing list >> > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com >> > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd >> > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com >> >> >>-- >>AccessD mailing list >>AccessD at databaseadvisors.com >>http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd >>Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > -- > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From wdhindman at dejpolsystems.com Tue Feb 5 16:19:43 2008 From: wdhindman at dejpolsystems.com (William Hindman) Date: Tue, 5 Feb 2008 17:19:43 -0500 Subject: [AccessD] Faxing reports from Access References: <00bb01c867c9$31746c20$3097d355@minster33c3r25><000901c867f8$f0124a60$d67e6c4c@jisshowsbs.local><20080205173249.DGTB18083.fep03.xtra.co.nz@Dalyn.dalyn.co.nz><002e01c8681e$a98607a0$8119fea9@LTVM><20080205201420.WKSC9910.fep05.xtra.co.nz@Dalyn.dalyn.co.nz><005501c86836$350b12e0$8119fea9@LTVM><20080205210754.MYML17371.fep04.xtra.co.nz@Dalyn.dalyn.co.nz> <000701c8683c$949e2de0$8119fea9@LTVM> Message-ID: <003f01c86845$35e45e10$d67e6c4c@jisshowsbs.local> ...good software but dear god the price! :) William ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mark A Matte" To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving" Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2008 4:49 PM Subject: Re: [AccessD] Faxing reports from Access > > Forgot to mention what we use!!! > > > "RightFAX" > > Good Luck, > > Mark > > >> From: max.wanadoo at gmail.com >> To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com >> Date: Tue, 5 Feb 2008 21:17:56 +0000 >> Subject: Re: [AccessD] Faxing reports from Access >> >> ok, I accept all that. And, given that is the situation "outside of my >> world", then I guess you do not have many choices left to you. They need >> a >> modem, but from what I can recall (all those years ago before broadband >> ), I seem to recall that you could set it to "dial out when required and >> then hang up" and also "Warn if the outgoing number changes", which >> should >> give you some security. Also, there is such a thing as "dial-back", when >> somebody calls in, the modem acks, hangs up and dials back to a listed >> number (but not sure if that applies in this situation). >> Hmmm. Difficulty David. That just about exhausts my suggestions. >> Regards >> Max >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com >> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of David Emerson >> Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2008 9:10 PM >> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving >> Subject: Re: [AccessD] Faxing reports from Access >> >> Max, >> >> This is the same with the company I contract to - their clients are >> typically small businesses. Ma and Pa have just gotten used to "that darn >> new fandangle fax machine thingy" and you want them to learn e-mail? :-) >> >> Incidentally, the company offers to email the accounts as well as fax. >> >> David >> >> >> At 6/02/2008, you wrote: >> >>>Max, >>> >>>I understand your comments about the fax being antiquated...In >>>actuality it was patended prior to the telephone...but... >>> >>>I work for a large company...and we have faxes coming in and out from >>>customers and contracters. Outside of the corporate world many people >>>still quote or document jobs with pen and paper. Or if a customer gets >>>a quote from a competitor...its been printed out...other than >>>mail...how would this customer get us a copy to match? Its typically >>>easier for the customer to fax something than it is for them to scan >>>and email. >>> >>> >>>Just some thoughts... >>> >>>Mark >>> >>>> From: max.wanadoo at gmail.com >>>> To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com >>>> Date: Tue, 5 Feb 2008 20:32:19 +0000 >>>> Subject: Re: [AccessD] Faxing reports from Access >>>> >>>> David, >>>> In that case there is no security difference!! Fax is not secure. >>>> >>>> Send them using Email and cGeep (www.cgeep.com). The recipient can >>>> unencrypted them and print them out (but why do they want a hard >>>> copy these day, I ask myself). >>>> Why does it need to be what is these days a antiquity (fax machine). >>>> You need to get them to have a culture change. this is the 21st >>>> Century. >>>> Fax machine went out 10-20 years ago apart from the luddites! >>>> My 2p worth, but worth stating to them, I think. The only faxes I >>>> seem to get these days are ones offering us Debt Collecting services >>>> or else ones offering cheap car leasing. If we lost our fax, we >>>> wouldn't >> even notice. >>>> >>>> I hope you take this in the intention which it is sent, not as a bleat! >>>> >>>> thanks >>>> >>>> >>>> Max >>>> >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com >>>> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of David >>>> Emerson >>>> Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2008 8:16 PM >>>> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving >>>> Subject: Re: [AccessD] Faxing reports from Access >>>> >>>> Thanks for the suggestion, but as the faxes are client accounts, >>> the company >>>> doesn't want them floating around the internet. >>>> >>>> David >>>> >>>> At 6/02/2008, you wrote: >>>>>David, >>>>>As an alternative, there are companies out there who will send faxes >>>>>via an email. You send them an email, they turn it into a fax and >>>>>send it. they receive a fax for you, they turn it into an email and >>>>>pass it on >>>> to you. >>>>>You get a tel number to use as a fax number. >>>>>I dont think it is very expensive. Certainly less than installing a >>>>>separate fax telephone line, rental etc. Also handles attachments. i >>>>>have often looked at this but as we have a fax built into our office >>>>>copier have not actually had a need for it. >>>>>Max >>>>> >>>>>-----Original Message----- >>>>>From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com >>>>>[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of David >>>>>Emerson >>>>>Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2008 5:35 PM >>>>>To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving >>>>>Subject: Re: [AccessD] Faxing reports from Access >>>>> >>>>>Thanks for both of these. I am still working through a solution with >>>>>the IT department. They don't want to put a modem on the servers to >>>>>restrict hackers dialing in. (They do have broadband on the server >> though). >>>>> >>>>>What they are looking at is using another computer which is on the >>>>>network and does have a fax modem. >>>>> >>>>>Will keep you all posted. >>>>> >>>>>David >>>>> >>>>>At 6/02/2008, you wrote: >>>>>>...Zetafax also works quite well without using Exchange ...just >>>>>>point to a table or query with an fax number source field and go >>>>>>...I tried a number of fax "solutions" before going with Zeta >>>>>>...once you get the phone number formats right, even the dumbest of >>>>>>users can use it without further support ...and every few months I >>>>>>get a call from their customer support asking if there are any >>>>>>problems they can help me with ...no sales pitch, just a short call >>>>>>...and they actually know who to put you in touch with if you do have >>>>>>a >> how-do-I question. >>>>>> >>>>>>William >>>>>> >>>>>>----- Original Message ----- >>>>>>From: "Andy Lacey" >>>>>>To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'" >>>>>> >>>>>>Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2008 2:31 AM >>>>>>Subject: Re: [AccessD] Faxing reports from Access >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>>I use Zetafax from Equinox http://www.equisys.com/index.html . >>>>>>>It's not cheap but if you're an Outlook/Exchange user it's so >>>>>>>simple because all you do is send an "email" but to a fax number. >>>>>>>Zetafax picks it up and faxes it. >>>>>>> You do need a fax modem on the Exchange server though of course. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- Andy Lacey >>>>>>> http://www.minstersystems.co.uk >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>-----Original Message----- >>>>>>>>From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com >>>>>>>>[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Barry G. >>>>>>>>Herring >>>>>>>>Sent: 05 February 2008 00:19 >>>>>>>>To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' >>>>>>>>Subject: Re: [AccessD] Faxing reports from Access >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>I have a client that is interested in faxing also, so will be >>>>>>>>monitoring this thread to its conclusion. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>Barry >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>-----Original Message----- >>>>>>>>From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com >>>>>>>>[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Kath >>>>>>>>Pelletti >>>>>>>>Sent: Monday, February 04, 2008 6:16 PM >>>>>>>>To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving >>>>>>>>Subject: Re: [AccessD] Faxing reports from Access >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>Great if you can keep us posted - the next app I am writing >>>>>>>>(2003) will also >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>require faxing from the db. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>Kath >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>----- Original Message ----- >>>>>>>>From: "David Emerson" >>>>>>>>To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving" >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2008 11:01 AM >>>>>>>>Subject: Re: [AccessD] Faxing reports from Access >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Thanks Kath, >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I have that article and was going to use it, but then found >>>>>>>>> that the server that it would be run on doesn't have a modem or >>>>>>>>> phone >>>>>>>>attached >>>>>>>>> to it :'( >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> They do have a couple of printers that are available, and these >>>>>>>>> do have fax software but neither of them seem to enable >>>>>>>>external commands >>>>>>>>> from within other applications like WinFax does :-( >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Will keep everyone posted. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Regards >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> David >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> At 5/02/2008, you wrote: >>>>>>>>>>David - There was an article in Woody's Access Watch about >>>>>>>>faxing from >>>>>>>>>>Access. I will forward the Part 2 of it to you offline - >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>Kath >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>----- Original Message ----- >>>>>>>>>>From: "David Emerson" >>>>>>>>>>To: >>>>>>>>>>Sent: Monday, February 04, 2008 12:06 PM >>>>>>>>>>Subject: [AccessD] Faxing reports from Access >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>I have a client who want to fax two reports to their clients >>>>>>>>>>>(a cover sheet, and a second report). They have WinFax 10 Pro >>>>>>>>>>>installed but I am having problems getting technical >>>>>>>>information on >>>>>>>>>>>how to use it. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Does anyone have any code for sending Faxes using WinFax? >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Regards >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> David Emerson >>>>>>>>>>> Dalyn Software Ltd >>>>>>>>>>> Wellington, New Zealand >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>>> AccessD mailing list >>>>>>>>>>> AccessD at databaseadvisors.com >>>>>>>>>>> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd >>>>>>>>>>> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>-- >>>>>>>>>>AccessD mailing list >>>>>>>>>>AccessD at databaseadvisors.com >>>>>>>>>>http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd >>>>>>>>>>Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>> AccessD mailing list >>>>>>>>> AccessD at databaseadvisors.com >>>>>>>>> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd >>>>>>>>> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>-- >>>>>>>>AccessD mailing list >>>>>>>>AccessD at databaseadvisors.com >>>>>>>>http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd >>>>>>>>Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>No virus found in this incoming message. >>>>>>>>Checked by AVG Free Edition. >>>>>>>>Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.19.19/1257 - Release >>>>>>>>Date: 2/3/2008 >>>>>>>>5:49 PM >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>No virus found in this outgoing message. >>>>>>>>Checked by AVG Free Edition. >>>>>>>>Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.19.19/1257 - Release >>>>>>>>Date: 2/3/2008 >>>>>>>>5:49 PM >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>-- >>>>>>>>AccessD mailing list >>>>>>>>AccessD at databaseadvisors.com >>>>>>>>http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd >>>>>>>>Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> AccessD mailing list >>>>>>> AccessD at databaseadvisors.com >>>>>>> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd >>>>>>> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>-- >>>>>>AccessD mailing list >>>>>>AccessD at databaseadvisors.com >>>>>>http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd >>>>>>Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com >>>>> >>>>>-- >>>>>AccessD mailing list >>>>>AccessD at databaseadvisors.com >>>>>http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd >>>>>Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com >>>>> >>>>>-- >>>>>AccessD mailing list >>>>>AccessD at databaseadvisors.com >>>>>http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd >>>>>Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com >>>> >>>> -- >>>> AccessD mailing list >>>> AccessD at databaseadvisors.com >>>> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd >>>> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com >>>> >>>> -- >>>> AccessD mailing list >>>> AccessD at databaseadvisors.com >>>> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd >>>> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com >>> >>>_________________________________________________________________ >>>Shed those extra pounds with MSN and The Biggest Loser! >>>http://biggestloser.msn.com/ >>>-- >>>AccessD mailing list >>>AccessD at databaseadvisors.com >>>http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd >>>Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com >> >> -- >> AccessD mailing list >> AccessD at databaseadvisors.com >> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd >> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com >> >> -- >> AccessD mailing list >> AccessD at databaseadvisors.com >> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd >> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > _________________________________________________________________ > Shed those extra pounds with MSN and The Biggest Loser! > http://biggestloser.msn.com/ > -- > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From shamil at users.mns.ru Tue Feb 5 16:31:58 2008 From: shamil at users.mns.ru (Shamil Salakhetdinov) Date: Wed, 6 Feb 2008 01:31:58 +0300 Subject: [AccessD] Automation of word In-Reply-To: <00b801c86812$72c43360$0401a8c0@M90> Message-ID: <000c01c86846$ebc33f20$6601a8c0@nant> Hi John, COM Add-in, written e.g. on VB6 or VB.NET can provide you with a solution.... -- Shamil -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of jwcolby Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2008 7:16 PM To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' Subject: Re: [AccessD] Automation of word Max, This doesn't work because the user gets to fill in stuff in the document, and does so on a regular basis. Thus the save would not show all their changes to the document. Yes, word prompts them just fine but they get to say no. Saying no is NOT LEGAL, but they can if they want to. THAT IS THE PROBLEM. I need to "lock the document open" so that whether they say yes or no, they can't close the document. I can then take my pointer to the document, force Word to save the document and then close it myself. John W. Colby Colby Consulting www.ColbyConsulting.com -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Max Wanadoo Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2008 10:19 AM To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' Subject: Re: [AccessD] Automation of word John, Why don't you save the document within your code before opening it for the user. If you used a NEW Word Object then that object will remain extant until the user closes it (the Word doc) at which point your code gets control back and just clears the object. All your work will have been done before hand so no cleanup to do - just a matter of setting the object to nothing. if the user makes changes then word itself will prompt the user to save or discard. Your side of it is done. Max -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of jwcolby Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2008 2:49 PM To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' Subject: Re: [AccessD] Automation of word Max, I am really just trying to figure out how to keep control of the word instance. The only thing that comes to mind (other than William's suggestion of running code inside word itself) is to somehow prevent my instance of word from closing, thus forcing the user to switch back to Access to let me have control again. At that point I can save, close and cleanup. If you know how to prevent your instance of Word from closing I think that would be enough. Otherwise suggestions on how to do this are appreciated. John W. Colby Colby Consulting www.ColbyConsulting.com -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Max Wanadoo Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2008 9:20 AM To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' Subject: Re: [AccessD] Automation of word Well, I can say that I do virtually all of that as well with the one exception of user adding in comments during print time, but it would be easy to implement that. when I get time later, I will go through my routine and strip away the bits that don't lend themself to what you are doing and then post it up. It is a very long routine which is why I was just posting bits out of it. It is based on Bookmarks in Word dot (not docs, but template dot files). There is a master Word Doc which people copy, give a new name to and add the text in and put any other bookmarks in (from a series of known bookmark names that the this system understands). The calling form (but could be a rst) is selected from a Combo (which letter do you want to send type thing). The user can d/click on the selected letter and make changes if they want to the DOT document. there are also clicks for paragraphs to be added in, postscripts, donations, etc, etc. A whole range of stuff. When the module is called, it is passed the form name. From that it will know what sort of data is available and will open a NEW INSTANCE of word object. It will then create a new document based on the selected DOT document and populate the bookmarks. It will then create a new name which is part system generated and part data orientated. If a word document exists with the same name, it will append a sequential number and loop until it gets a unique name. It then saves this. It then background prints and stays there until the printing is completed (couple of millisecs typically) and then closes the INSTANCE of the WORD Object. A usesr can hage multiple word documents open if they wish, no problem as we are using our own INSTANCE of the object. The options are to Just Print it, Preview it, Cancel it. The document name is then written to a linked table (PersonID and LetterID). it can be retrieved at any time, previewed again, deleted etc - up to you). All letters we send out are done via the database so that we know exactly what was sent, who sent it, etc. Obviously, I can't post up the whole suite but the above should give you a general feel. Do you want the Word module posted or sent private (or not at all)? Max -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of jwcolby Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2008 1:25 PM To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' Subject: Re: [AccessD] Automation of word Max, In this case the user selects from one of dozens of different documents specific to a type of disability claim for a specific disability insurance company. These documents are things like request for medical records, notice of claim status, legal requests to lawyers, what have you. So the user selects a specific document, then the people that will get a copy of the document, who the "to" is, and who are CCs etc. They then click a "merge" button and the data required for that specific document is dumped to the text file, Word is opened with that specific document loaded. Word pulls the data from the text file and then MAY throw up prompts to the user to fill in other data that is not in tables, but rather is in the claim processor's head (comment to the claimant etc). Once the claim processor has finished and is happy with the document, (s)he prints the document and closes word. Thus the process is a little more complex than just "open and print a document". What I am trying to accomplish now is to reliably get the document saved after being filled in, as well as reliably get Word closed. This application is call center software. My client, the user of the application, has invested in a system to scan all paper and get it into electronic format. The claim is a paper file, the document just created is printed, but the paper is never touched after being placed in the folder. All processing of the claim is done by looking at the document scans. The entire claim is dumped to individual DVDs and those DVDs are sent to their client (large insurance companies). The paper is sent to dead storage, it has to exist for legal reasons but it never has to be actually looked at. So... ATM the process of SAVING the document relies on the user to actually do so. The document HAS to be saved to a specific folder in order for the scan software to "see it". That software will open all documents in a specific folder and import it into the document storage system, index it by claim number etc. But if the document does not get saved, then it does not get into the electronic version of the claim. ATM they take the paper copy just printed, place it into a scanner and manually scan the paper into the system but that is labor intensive. They do a thousand documents a day, and they want to be able to reliably save the document into this special folder and just let the doc storage do its thing without having to go through that manual scan step. Additionally closing of the WORD application depends on the user. I want to gain control of the save and the close process. Thus I want to lock Word open and force the user to click a button in Access so that my program can save the document close Word and release my pointer to word, log that I saved the document to doc storage etc. John W. Colby Colby Consulting www.ColbyConsulting.com -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From LChristian at MassMutual.com Tue Feb 5 18:09:49 2008 From: LChristian at MassMutual.com (Christian, Lorraine) Date: Tue, 5 Feb 2008 19:09:49 -0500 Subject: [AccessD] Automation of word In-Reply-To: References: <005601c8673d$054b3520$0401a8c0@M90><001a01c86743$06babbf0$0301a8c0@HAL9005> <008001c86749$2c17a600$0401a8c0@M90> <001b01c867e3$2663c910$8119fea9@LTVM> Message-ID: Sorry forgot to send this unsecure. -----Original Message----- From: Christian, Lorraine Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2008 3:10 PM To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' Subject: RE: [AccessD] Automation of word Hi there - Not sure if this will help anyone. The document already points to the datasource. This function is called from a command button on a form Private Sub cmdOnePage_Click() MailMergeIt "FinalOnePageMergeDoc.doc", acViewPreview End Sub ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Public Function MailMergeIt(NameOfDoc As String, ViewOrPrint As Integer) On Error GoTo ErrMM Dim strPath As String Dim objWord As Object Dim lngCount As Long Dim blnCreated As Boolean strPath = "Y:\PathHere\MergeDocHere.doc" 'check to make sure data exists lngCount = Nz(DCount("*", "qysMailMergeData"), 0) 'The query that holds the data If lngCount = 0 Then MsgBox "No data for mail merge.", vbOKCancel + vbCritical, "No Data Found..." Exit Function Else MsgBox "There are " & lngCount & " letters in this mail merge. This will take a few minutes.", vbOKOnly + vbInformation, "Letter Count" Set objWord = GetObject(strPath) objWord.MailMerge.Execute objWord.Application.ActiveDocument.SaveAs filename:="Y:\apps\BKMailMerge\MailMerge\MergeDocsPDFs\" & _ "WordMerge" & Format(Date, "mmddyy") & ".doc" If blnCreated = True Then objWord.Close End If Set objWord = Nothing End If MsgBox "Mail merge completed and your document has been saved. You can proceed to Step 3.", vbOKCancel + vbInformation, "Letter Generation" ExitMM: Exit Function ErrMM: Select Case Err.Number Case Else MsgBox Err.Number & " - " & Err.Description Resume ExitMM End Select End Function Lorraine -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Max Wanadoo Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2008 5:38 AM To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' Subject: Re: [AccessD] Automation of word You can open Word and set it to background printing and then keep it open until printing is completed and then close it down. Is that what you are after? Max -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of jwcolby Sent: Monday, February 04, 2008 4:16 PM To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' Subject: Re: [AccessD] Automation of word Rocky, In fact the method I am using is to export the data into t text file. The word document is then "hard coded" to pull in data from that text document. I just open the word document and it "just does it". Of course I have to successfully export the data to the text file first. John W. Colby Colby Consulting www.ColbyConsulting.com -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Rocky Smolin at Beach Access Software Sent: Monday, February 04, 2008 10:32 AM To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' Subject: Re: [AccessD] Automation of word John: Can't help you with that but I'm curious to know the code you're using to do the merge. I had a merge function and it used to work. Now, for reasons I have yet to be able to figure out it doesn't. My code to open the document and merge is only a few lines: Dim objWordDoc As Word.Document Dim objWord As Object Set objWord = CreateObject("Word.Application") With objWord 'Visible is set True in order to view the operation. .Visible = True .Documents.Open (strDocName) .ActiveDocument.MailMerge.Destination = wdSendToNewDocument .ActiveDocument.MailMerge.SuppressBlankLines = True .ActiveDocument.MailMerge.Execute End With It starts word and opens the document just fine but at .ActiveDocument.MailMerge.Destination = wdSendToNewDocument I get requested object not available. How are you opening and merging your document? TIA Rocky -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of jwcolby Sent: Monday, February 04, 2008 6:49 AM To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' Subject: [AccessD] Automation of word I have a rather elaborate mail merge system in a client's system. ATM I open the document, merge the date and the user takes over, filling in things that they need to fill in, then printing and closing the word instance. It works well enough however I do not control the save of the document, and very occasionally Word does not close cleanly, leaving a hidden instance open WITH the associated merge text document open as well, preventing the next merge from occurring. I need to know if it is possible to open word in a mode that prevents it from being closed by the user? I would then have the user go back to my application and press a button saying that they succeeded in doing the mail merge. I would save the document and close Word down. Can I prevent the user from closing Word? John W. Colby Colby Consulting www.ColbyConsulting.com -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. 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Part of the code that loops this definition table looks like this: If rst!Type = "Excel" Then ' dealing with a spreadsheet varDirectory = rst!Directory & rst!Database varName = rst![Name] Set tdf = dbs.CreateTableDef(varName) tdf.Connect = "Excel5.0;HDR=YES;IMEX=2;Database=" & varDirectory tdf.SourceTableName = varName dbs.TableDefs.Append tdf Else 'jet tables in .mdb varDirectory = rst!Directory & rst!Database varName = rst![Name] Set tdf = dbs.CreateTableDef(varName) tdf.Connect = ";Database=" & varDirectory tdf.SourceTableName = varName dbs.TableDefs.Append tdf End If Works fine with the access tables but no excel spreadsheet is being linked .... What am I missing here??? I can link ok through the user interface, and the values for the resulting linked excel file in the MSysObjects table are the ones I am parsing in the code as well: ? Regards borge From greg at worthey.com Wed Feb 6 01:46:28 2008 From: greg at worthey.com (Greg Worthey) Date: Tue, 5 Feb 2008 23:46:28 -0800 Subject: [AccessD] OT: A book on Vb.net 2005 Windows In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <016d01c86894$630c2d10$1401a8c0@wsp21> I've just started reading "Data Binding with Windows Forms 2.0: Programming Smart Client Data Applications with .NET". It starts nice and easy, with a solid, understandable introduction to the dataset wizard (sort of similar to access's form wizard), and then moves on to advanced non-wizard-type situations. I like it so far. Most examples are in C#, but as author says in introduction, you ought to learn how to read C#, as most examples of everything are in C#. The thing is learning the concepts and classes. Greg Worthey Worthey Solutions www.worthey.com -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Johncliviger at aol.com Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2008 6:03 AM To: AccessD at databaseadvisors.com Subject: [AccessD] OT: A book on Vb.net 2005 Windows Forms Hi List Can anyone recommend a book on Vb.net 2005 Windows Forms kind regards johnc From max.wanadoo at gmail.com Wed Feb 6 03:40:43 2008 From: max.wanadoo at gmail.com (Max Wanadoo) Date: Wed, 6 Feb 2008 09:40:43 -0000 Subject: [AccessD] Code for linking Excel Spreadsheet In-Reply-To: <20080206121608.DNQ88576@dommail.onthenet.com.au> References: <20080206121608.DNQ88576@dommail.onthenet.com.au> Message-ID: <000f01c868a4$58b8f220$8119fea9@LTVM> The format I use is this: >From a Recordset, viz; DoCmd.TransferSpreadsheet rst!ActionType, , rst!Destination, rst!Source, bHasFieldNames or directly viz; DoCmd.TransferSpreadsheet acLink, , "tblTestXLS", "c:\test.xls", True rstActionType can be acLink or acImport The rst!Source must be an .xls type file, bHasFieldNames indicated whether the first line of the s/sheet has headers or data. HTH Max -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of pcs at azizaz.com Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2008 2:16 AM To: Access Developers discussion and problemsolving Subject: [AccessD] Code for linking Excel Spreadsheet I have problems extending existing code for programmatic linking of tables to also include excel spreadsheet. These are simple spreadsheets with one worksheet named the same as the excel file I have the definitions of the tables / spreadsheets I want to link in a separate tlkpLinkedTables. Part of the code that loops this definition table looks like this: If rst!Type = "Excel" Then ' dealing with a spreadsheet varDirectory = rst!Directory & rst!Database varName = rst![Name] Set tdf = dbs.CreateTableDef(varName) tdf.Connect = "Excel5.0;HDR=YES;IMEX=2;Database=" & varDirectory tdf.SourceTableName = varName dbs.TableDefs.Append tdf Else 'jet tables in .mdb varDirectory = rst!Directory & rst!Database varName = rst![Name] Set tdf = dbs.CreateTableDef(varName) tdf.Connect = ";Database=" & varDirectory tdf.SourceTableName = varName dbs.TableDefs.Append tdf End If Works fine with the access tables but no excel spreadsheet is being linked .... What am I missing here??? I can link ok through the user interface, and the values for the resulting linked excel file in the MSysObjects table are the ones I am parsing in the code as well: ? Regards borge -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From joeo at appoli.com Wed Feb 6 09:01:45 2008 From: joeo at appoli.com (Joe O'Connell) Date: Wed, 6 Feb 2008 10:01:45 -0500 Subject: [AccessD] Code for linking Excel Spreadsheet In-Reply-To: <20080206121608.DNQ88576@dommail.onthenet.com.au> References: <20080206121608.DNQ88576@dommail.onthenet.com.au> Message-ID: Borge, Try changing 2 lines to be: tdf.Connect = "Excel 5.0;HDR=YES;IMEX=2;Database=" & varDirectory & ";" tdf.SourceTableName = varName & "$" Joe O'Connell -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of pcs at azizaz.com Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2008 9:16 PM To: Access Developers discussion and problemsolving Subject: [AccessD] Code for linking Excel Spreadsheet I have problems extending existing code for programmatic linking of tables to also include excel spreadsheet. These are simple spreadsheets with one worksheet named the same as the excel file I have the definitions of the tables / spreadsheets I want to link in a separate tlkpLinkedTables. Part of the code that loops this definition table looks like this: If rst!Type = "Excel" Then ' dealing with a spreadsheet varDirectory = rst!Directory & rst!Database varName = rst![Name] Set tdf = dbs.CreateTableDef(varName) tdf.Connect = "Excel5.0;HDR=YES;IMEX=2;Database=" & varDirectory tdf.SourceTableName = varName dbs.TableDefs.Append tdf Else 'jet tables in .mdb varDirectory = rst!Directory & rst!Database varName = rst![Name] Set tdf = dbs.CreateTableDef(varName) tdf.Connect = ";Database=" & varDirectory tdf.SourceTableName = varName dbs.TableDefs.Append tdf End If Works fine with the access tables but no excel spreadsheet is being linked .... What am I missing here??? I can link ok through the user interface, and the values for the resulting linked excel file in the MSysObjects table are the ones I am parsing in the code as well: ? Regards borge -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From dwaters at usinternet.com Wed Feb 6 10:31:23 2008 From: dwaters at usinternet.com (Dan Waters) Date: Wed, 6 Feb 2008 10:31:23 -0600 Subject: [AccessD] Auto-Shutdown Leaves Access Process Running? Message-ID: <001801c868dd$b68fd600$0300a8c0@danwaters> I have a database that is opened by a Scheduled Task. It's designed to shut down automatically using 'DoCmd.Quit acQuitSaveNone'. But, in task manger, the Access process is still running even though in the application window Access is not running. How could I shut down Access automatically so that both the Application and the Process are shut down? Thanks! Dan From Lambert.Heenan at AIG.com Wed Feb 6 10:42:44 2008 From: Lambert.Heenan at AIG.com (Heenan, Lambert) Date: Wed, 6 Feb 2008 11:42:44 -0500 Subject: [AccessD] Auto-Shutdown Leaves Access Process Running? Message-ID: <34C8A2AB1EF3564CB0D64DB6AFFDD5C208ED79CE@XLIVMBX35bkup.aig.com> This symptom is usually caused by the code that is running having set some object (recordset, database, querydef, whatever) and then not released the object by setting it to Nothing. Lambert -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Dan Waters Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2008 11:31 AM To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' Subject: [AccessD] Auto-Shutdown Leaves Access Process Running? I have a database that is opened by a Scheduled Task. It's designed to shut down automatically using 'DoCmd.Quit acQuitSaveNone'. But, in task manger, the Access process is still running even though in the application window Access is not running. How could I shut down Access automatically so that both the Application and the Process are shut down? Thanks! Dan -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From markamatte at hotmail.com Wed Feb 6 11:14:57 2008 From: markamatte at hotmail.com (Mark A Matte) Date: Wed, 6 Feb 2008 17:14:57 +0000 Subject: [AccessD] Missing Dates In-Reply-To: <34C8A2AB1EF3564CB0D64DB6AFFDD5C208ED79CE@XLIVMBX35bkup.aig.com> References: <34C8A2AB1EF3564CB0D64DB6AFFDD5C208ED79CE@XLIVMBX35bkup.aig.com> Message-ID: Hello All, I recently read an article about 'missing dates'. I know we discussed this in the past...but our archives don't search very well. The results are limited by some random dates...anyway.... Any thoughts on the approach I used...speed,accuracy...all that good stuff. I needed to find the earliest date not listed in the closed_date field. All of the other approaches seemed to be very complicated, using case statements, arrays, temp tables...mine seems too simple. Any thoughts? *****************SQL START************************* SELECT Min([tblCase]![closed_date]+1) AS MD FROM tblCase LEFT JOIN tblCase AS tblCase_1 ON ([tblCase].[closed_date]+1) = tblCase_1.closed_date WHERE (((tblCase_1.closed_date) Is Null)); *****************SQL END************************* Thanks, Mark A. Matte _________________________________________________________________ Helping your favorite cause is as easy as instant messaging.?You IM, we give. http://im.live.com/Messenger/IM/Home/?source=text_hotmail_join From rockysmolin at bchacc.com Wed Feb 6 11:43:54 2008 From: rockysmolin at bchacc.com (Rocky Smolin at Beach Access Software) Date: Wed, 6 Feb 2008 09:43:54 -0800 Subject: [AccessD] Auto-Shutdown Leaves Access Process Running? In-Reply-To: <001801c868dd$b68fd600$0300a8c0@danwaters> References: <001801c868dd$b68fd600$0300a8c0@danwaters> Message-ID: <008601c868e7$d81e7d30$0301a8c0@HAL9005> How about Application.Quit instead of DoCmd.Quit? But Lambert is more likely right. Rocky -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Dan Waters Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2008 8:31 AM To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' Subject: [AccessD] Auto-Shutdown Leaves Access Process Running? I have a database that is opened by a Scheduled Task. It's designed to shut down automatically using 'DoCmd.Quit acQuitSaveNone'. But, in task manger, the Access process is still running even though in the application window Access is not running. How could I shut down Access automatically so that both the Application and the Process are shut down? Thanks! Dan -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.19.20/1261 - Release Date: 2/5/2008 8:57 PM From dwaters at usinternet.com Wed Feb 6 12:52:51 2008 From: dwaters at usinternet.com (Dan Waters) Date: Wed, 6 Feb 2008 12:52:51 -0600 Subject: [AccessD] Auto-Shutdown Leaves Access Process Running? In-Reply-To: <008601c868e7$d81e7d30$0301a8c0@HAL9005> References: <001801c868dd$b68fd600$0300a8c0@danwaters> <008601c868e7$d81e7d30$0301a8c0@HAL9005> Message-ID: <002301c868f1$79b85630$0300a8c0@danwaters> Lambert & Rocky, I found a modular recordset that wasn't being explicitly closed. So - fingers are crossed! Thanks! Dan -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Rocky Smolin at Beach Access Software Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2008 11:44 AM To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' Subject: Re: [AccessD] Auto-Shutdown Leaves Access Process Running? How about Application.Quit instead of DoCmd.Quit? But Lambert is more likely right. Rocky -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Dan Waters Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2008 8:31 AM To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' Subject: [AccessD] Auto-Shutdown Leaves Access Process Running? I have a database that is opened by a Scheduled Task. It's designed to shut down automatically using 'DoCmd.Quit acQuitSaveNone'. But, in task manger, the Access process is still running even though in the application window Access is not running. How could I shut down Access automatically so that both the Application and the Process are shut down? Thanks! Dan -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.19.20/1261 - Release Date: 2/5/2008 8:57 PM -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From accessd at shaw.ca Wed Feb 6 19:18:43 2008 From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence) Date: Wed, 06 Feb 2008 17:18:43 -0800 Subject: [AccessD] OT: IE7 not displaying In-Reply-To: <002301c868f1$79b85630$0300a8c0@danwaters> References: <001801c868dd$b68fd600$0300a8c0@danwaters> <008601c868e7$d81e7d30$0301a8c0@HAL9005> <002301c868f1$79b85630$0300a8c0@danwaters> Message-ID: <5C1CA04458EE420EB21E5D5EC25A440C@creativesystemdesigns.com> Hi All: Sorry for the OT but there are more list members who view this list and may have run across this situation. Has anyone being having problems with IE7 not displaying? I believe it is something to do with the latest Flash update, as it seems to only be affected by sites that have some Flash on the page. There are no error messages just a blank screen... FF has no such issues and unless a resolution is forth coming will have to set the default to FF. Any thoughts? Jim From wdhindman at dejpolsystems.com Wed Feb 6 20:48:15 2008 From: wdhindman at dejpolsystems.com (William Hindman) Date: Wed, 6 Feb 2008 21:48:15 -0500 Subject: [AccessD] OT: IE7 not displaying References: <001801c868dd$b68fd600$0300a8c0@danwaters><008601c868e7$d81e7d30$0301a8c0@HAL9005><002301c868f1$79b85630$0300a8c0@danwaters> <5C1CA04458EE420EB21E5D5EC25A440C@creativesystemdesigns.com> Message-ID: <006601c86933$e386a5c0$d67e6c4c@jisshowsbs.local> Jim ...for what its worth I have the latest Flash updates and have no such problems in IE7 or FF2. William ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jim Lawrence" To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'" Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2008 8:18 PM Subject: [AccessD] OT: IE7 not displaying > Hi All: > > Sorry for the OT but there are more list members who view this list and > may > have run across this situation. > > Has anyone being having problems with IE7 not displaying? > > I believe it is something to do with the latest Flash update, as it seems > to > only be affected by sites that have some Flash on the page. There are no > error messages just a blank screen... FF has no such issues and unless a > resolution is forth coming will have to set the default to FF. > > Any thoughts? > > Jim > > -- > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From pcs at azizaz.com Wed Feb 6 23:23:09 2008 From: pcs at azizaz.com (pcs at azizaz.com) Date: Thu, 7 Feb 2008 15:23:09 +1000 (EST) Subject: [AccessD] Code for linking Excel Spreadsheet Message-ID: <20080207152309.DNT05794@dommail.onthenet.com.au> Thanks Max and Joe, I had tried to append the "$" to the sourcetable name with no luck; adding the ";" after the Database= value didn't help either... But the docmd.TransferSpreadsheet did the trick The Codebit that loops the local table holding data on what tables (and now also spreadheets) to link now reads: Do Until rst.EOF '20080206 added capability to link xls spreadsheets - must be referred to in tlkpLinkTablesJetSQL_xxx If rst!Type = "Excel" Then varDirectory = rst!Directory & rst!Database varName = rst![Name] DoCmd.TransferSpreadsheet acLink, , varName, varDirectory, True Else ' access tables varDirectory = rst!Directory & rst!Database varName = rst![Name] Set tdf = dbs.CreateTableDef(varName) tdf.Connect = ";Database=" & varDirectory tdf.SourceTableName = varName dbs.TableDefs.Append tdf End If rst.MoveNext Regards Borge ---- Original message ---- >Date: Wed, 6 Feb 2008 10:01:45 -0500 >From: "Joe O'Connell" >Subject: Re: [AccessD] Code for linking Excel Spreadsheet >To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving" > > > >Borge, > >Try changing 2 lines to be: > tdf.Connect = "Excel 5.0;HDR=YES;IMEX=2;Database=" & varDirectory & >";" > tdf.SourceTableName = varName & "$" > >Joe O'Connell > > >-----Original Message----- >From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com >[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of >pcs at azizaz.com >Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2008 9:16 PM >To: Access Developers discussion and problemsolving >Subject: [AccessD] Code for linking Excel Spreadsheet > >I have problems extending existing code for programmatic >linking of tables to also include excel spreadsheet. These are >simple spreadsheets with one worksheet named the same as the >excel file > >I have the definitions of the tables / spreadsheets I want to >link in a separate tlkpLinkedTables. > >Part of the code that loops this definition table looks like this: > > If rst!Type = "Excel" Then ' dealing with a spreadsheet > varDirectory = rst!Directory & rst!Database > varName = rst![Name] > Set tdf = dbs.CreateTableDef(varName) > tdf.Connect = "Excel5.0;HDR=YES;IMEX=2;Database=" >& varDirectory > tdf.SourceTableName = varName > dbs.TableDefs.Append tdf > Else 'jet tables in .mdb > varDirectory = rst!Directory & rst!Database > varName = rst![Name] > Set tdf = dbs.CreateTableDef(varName) > tdf.Connect = ";Database=" & varDirectory > tdf.SourceTableName = varName > dbs.TableDefs.Append tdf > End If > >Works fine with the access tables but no excel spreadsheet is >being linked .... What am I missing here??? > >I can link ok through the user interface, and the values for >the resulting linked excel file in the MSysObjects table are >the ones I am parsing in the code as well: > > >? > >Regards >borge >-- >AccessD mailing list >AccessD at databaseadvisors.com >http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd >Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > >-- >AccessD mailing list >AccessD at databaseadvisors.com >http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd >Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From Gustav at cactus.dk Thu Feb 7 01:47:12 2008 From: Gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock) Date: Thu, 07 Feb 2008 08:47:12 +0100 Subject: [AccessD] Code for linking Excel Spreadsheet Message-ID: Hi Borge As Joe mentions, your original code will work with two minor modifications. 1. For a WorkSheet as the table to link, append "$" to the WorkSheet name, like "Sheet1$" Don't do that for a Named Area to link. 2. Use the right connect header. A space is missing in your code: strFilename = "d:\path\excelfilename.xls" tdf.Connect = "Excel 5.0;HDR=YES;IMEX=2;PWD=yourpassword;DATABASE=" & strFilename /gustav >>> pcs at azizaz.com 07-02-2008 06:23 >>> Thanks Max and Joe, I had tried to append the "$" to the sourcetable name with no luck; adding the ";" after the Database= value didn't help either... But the docmd.TransferSpreadsheet did the trick The Codebit that loops the local table holding data on what tables (and now also spreadheets) to link now reads: Do Until rst.EOF '20080206 added capability to link xls spreadsheets - must be referred to in tlkpLinkTablesJetSQL_xxx If rst!Type = "Excel" Then varDirectory = rst!Directory & rst!Database varName = rst![Name] DoCmd.TransferSpreadsheet acLink, , varName, varDirectory, True Else ' access tables varDirectory = rst!Directory & rst!Database varName = rst![Name] Set tdf = dbs.CreateTableDef(varName) tdf.Connect = ";Database=" & varDirectory tdf.SourceTableName = varName dbs.TableDefs.Append tdf End If rst.MoveNext Regards Borge ---- Original message ---- >Date: Wed, 6 Feb 2008 10:01:45 -0500 >From: "Joe O'Connell" >Subject: Re: [AccessD] Code for linking Excel Spreadsheet >To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving" > > > >Borge, > >Try changing 2 lines to be: > tdf.Connect = "Excel 5.0;HDR=YES;IMEX=2;Database=" & varDirectory & ";" > tdf.SourceTableName = varName & "$" > >Joe O'Connell > > >-----Original Message----- >From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com >[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of >pcs at azizaz.com >Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2008 9:16 PM >To: Access Developers discussion and problemsolving >Subject: [AccessD] Code for linking Excel Spreadsheet > >I have problems extending existing code for programmatic >linking of tables to also include excel spreadsheet. These are >simple spreadsheets with one worksheet named the same as the >excel file > >I have the definitions of the tables / spreadsheets I want to >link in a separate tlkpLinkedTables. > >Part of the code that loops this definition table looks like this: > > If rst!Type = "Excel" Then ' dealing with a spreadsheet > varDirectory = rst!Directory & rst!Database > varName = rst![Name] > Set tdf = dbs.CreateTableDef(varName) > tdf.Connect = "Excel5.0;HDR=YES;IMEX=2;Database=" & varDirectory > tdf.SourceTableName = varName > dbs.TableDefs.Append tdf > Else 'jet tables in .mdb > varDirectory = rst!Directory & rst!Database > varName = rst![Name] > Set tdf = dbs.CreateTableDef(varName) > tdf.Connect = ";Database=" & varDirectory > tdf.SourceTableName = varName > dbs.TableDefs.Append tdf > End If > >Works fine with the access tables but no excel spreadsheet is >being linked .... What am I missing here??? > >I can link ok through the user interface, and the values for >the resulting linked excel file in the MSysObjects table are >the ones I am parsing in the code as well: > > >? > >Regards >borge From max.wanadoo at gmail.com Thu Feb 7 02:07:04 2008 From: max.wanadoo at gmail.com (Max Wanadoo) Date: Thu, 7 Feb 2008 08:07:04 -0000 Subject: [AccessD] Code for linking Excel Spreadsheet In-Reply-To: <20080207152309.DNT05794@dommail.onthenet.com.au> References: <20080207152309.DNT05794@dommail.onthenet.com.au> Message-ID: <001c01c86960$6de748b0$8119fea9@LTVM> Borge, changing the aclink to acimport will give you a copy of the s/sheet as a local table if that helps? I haven't tried Joe's suggestion of using the $ but will see if it works. - Thanks Joe. Max -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of pcs at azizaz.com Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2008 5:23 AM To: Access Developers discussion and problemsolving Subject: Re: [AccessD] Code for linking Excel Spreadsheet Thanks Max and Joe, I had tried to append the "$" to the sourcetable name with no luck; adding the ";" after the Database= value didn't help either... But the docmd.TransferSpreadsheet did the trick The Codebit that loops the local table holding data on what tables (and now also spreadheets) to link now reads: Do Until rst.EOF '20080206 added capability to link xls spreadsheets - must be referred to in tlkpLinkTablesJetSQL_xxx If rst!Type = "Excel" Then varDirectory = rst!Directory & rst!Database varName = rst![Name] DoCmd.TransferSpreadsheet acLink, , varName, varDirectory, True Else ' access tables varDirectory = rst!Directory & rst!Database varName = rst![Name] Set tdf = dbs.CreateTableDef(varName) tdf.Connect = ";Database=" & varDirectory tdf.SourceTableName = varName dbs.TableDefs.Append tdf End If rst.MoveNext Regards Borge ---- Original message ---- >Date: Wed, 6 Feb 2008 10:01:45 -0500 >From: "Joe O'Connell" >Subject: Re: [AccessD] Code for linking Excel Spreadsheet >To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving" > > > >Borge, > >Try changing 2 lines to be: > tdf.Connect = "Excel 5.0;HDR=YES;IMEX=2;Database=" & varDirectory & >";" > tdf.SourceTableName = varName & "$" > >Joe O'Connell > > >-----Original Message----- >From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com >[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of >pcs at azizaz.com >Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2008 9:16 PM >To: Access Developers discussion and problemsolving >Subject: [AccessD] Code for linking Excel Spreadsheet > >I have problems extending existing code for programmatic linking of >tables to also include excel spreadsheet. These are >simple spreadsheets with one worksheet named the same as the excel file > >I have the definitions of the tables / spreadsheets I want to >link in a separate tlkpLinkedTables. > >Part of the code that loops this definition table looks like this: > > If rst!Type = "Excel" Then ' dealing with a spreadsheet > varDirectory = rst!Directory & rst!Database > varName = rst![Name] > Set tdf = dbs.CreateTableDef(varName) > tdf.Connect = "Excel5.0;HDR=YES;IMEX=2;Database=" >& varDirectory > tdf.SourceTableName = varName > dbs.TableDefs.Append tdf > Else 'jet tables in .mdb > varDirectory = rst!Directory & rst!Database > varName = rst![Name] > Set tdf = dbs.CreateTableDef(varName) > tdf.Connect = ";Database=" & varDirectory > tdf.SourceTableName = varName > dbs.TableDefs.Append tdf > End If > >Works fine with the access tables but no excel spreadsheet is >being linked .... What am I missing here??? > >I can link ok through the user interface, and the values for the >resulting linked excel file in the MSysObjects table are the ones I am >parsing in the code as well: > > >? > >Regards >borge >-- >AccessD mailing list >AccessD at databaseadvisors.com >http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd >Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > >-- >AccessD mailing list >AccessD at databaseadvisors.com >http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd >Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com Thu Feb 7 09:53:48 2008 From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (jwcolby) Date: Thu, 7 Feb 2008 10:53:48 -0500 Subject: [AccessD] Snapshot is strange Message-ID: <007301c869a1$a10fd680$0401a8c0@M90> I have a client that has one workstation that is creating strange snapshots. The snapshot ends up being just a 1 inch wide strip of the report, the LEFTMOST inch. The same report sent to a snapshot on any other machine looks correct. Has anyone ever seen something like this before? John W. Colby Colby Consulting www.ColbyConsulting.com From wdhindman at dejpolsystems.com Thu Feb 7 10:59:55 2008 From: wdhindman at dejpolsystems.com (William Hindman) Date: Thu, 7 Feb 2008 11:59:55 -0500 Subject: [AccessD] Snapshot is strange References: <007301c869a1$a10fd680$0401a8c0@M90> Message-ID: <004101c869aa$deac4dd0$d67e6c4c@jisshowsbs.local> ...you've replaced his snapshot viewer? ...are you opening it from a shortcut? ...the shortcut properties could be screwing up the display. William ----- Original Message ----- From: "jwcolby" To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'" Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2008 10:53 AM Subject: [AccessD] Snapshot is strange >I have a client that has one workstation that is creating strange >snapshots. > The snapshot ends up being just a 1 inch wide strip of the report, the > LEFTMOST inch. The same report sent to a snapshot on any other machine > looks correct. > > Has anyone ever seen something like this before? > > John W. Colby > Colby Consulting > www.ColbyConsulting.com > > -- > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com Thu Feb 7 11:21:26 2008 From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (jwcolby) Date: Thu, 7 Feb 2008 12:21:26 -0500 Subject: [AccessD] Snapshot is strange In-Reply-To: <004101c869aa$deac4dd0$d67e6c4c@jisshowsbs.local> References: <007301c869a1$a10fd680$0401a8c0@M90> <004101c869aa$deac4dd0$d67e6c4c@jisshowsbs.local> Message-ID: <007601c869ad$df5111f0$0401a8c0@M90> It turned out to be the default printer. I asked them to preview the report to see if it looked right, and to check the default printer. They did so and found that the printer was not the one she was supposed to be using. Fixed that and things work. John W. Colby Colby Consulting www.ColbyConsulting.com -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of William Hindman Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2008 12:00 PM To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving Subject: Re: [AccessD] Snapshot is strange ...you've replaced his snapshot viewer? ...are you opening it from a shortcut? ...the shortcut properties could be screwing up the display. William ----- Original Message ----- From: "jwcolby" To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'" Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2008 10:53 AM Subject: [AccessD] Snapshot is strange >I have a client that has one workstation that is creating strange >snapshots. > The snapshot ends up being just a 1 inch wide strip of the report, the > LEFTMOST inch. The same report sent to a snapshot on any other machine > looks correct. > > Has anyone ever seen something like this before? > > John W. Colby > Colby Consulting > www.ColbyConsulting.com > > -- > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From marklbreen at gmail.com Thu Feb 7 14:14:56 2008 From: marklbreen at gmail.com (Mark Breen) Date: Thu, 7 Feb 2008 20:14:56 +0000 Subject: [AccessD] How to Supress the "Click to Cancel" dialog box when you are printing reports In-Reply-To: <001001c85574$b3b80cd0$0202a8c0@Laptop> References: <001001c85574$b3b80cd0$0202a8c0@Laptop> Message-ID: Hello Michael, Sorry, I have not been in here in a while, I did download the solution, but shy-ed away from it in the fear that it would add complexity to the hundreds of jobs I was submitting. I will try it and if I can get an opinion how well it works i will post back to let the list know thanks again, Mark On 12/01/2008, Michael R Mattys wrote: > > Hi Mark, > > This is the only answer I've ever seen for that problem: > http://www.mvps.org/access/api/api0037.htm > > Michael R. Mattys > MapPoint & Access Dev > www.mattysconsulting.com > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Mark Breen" > To: > Sent: Saturday, January 12, 2008 6:26 PM > Subject: [AccessD] How to Supress the "Click to Cancel" dialog box when > you > are printing reports > > > > Hello All, > > > > I hope you are all well. > > > > I am printing some reports currently using MS Access 2003 using the > > following command: DoCmd.OpenReport "rptFrontTicket" > > > > However, I am printing 1000's of these reports and I would like to > > suppress > > the "Click to Cancel" dialog box that appears. It probably does not > slow > > performance, but it makes the user experience less attractive to > > constantly > > see that dialog box appearing and disappearing 1000 times. > > > > Does anyone know how to do this? > > > > Thanks in advance, > > > > Mark > > -- > > AccessD mailing list > > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > -- > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > From david.gray at tpg.com.au Thu Feb 7 15:43:03 2008 From: david.gray at tpg.com.au (David gray) Date: Fri, 8 Feb 2008 07:43:03 +1000 Subject: [AccessD] OT: IE7 not displaying In-Reply-To: <5C1CA04458EE420EB21E5D5EC25A440C@creativesystemdesigns.com> References: <001801c868dd$b68fd600$0300a8c0@danwaters><008601c868e7$d81e7d30$0301a8c0@HAL9005><002301c868f1$79b85630$0300a8c0@danwaters> <5C1CA04458EE420EB21E5D5EC25A440C@creativesystemdesigns.com> Message-ID: <000601c869d2$6c293e30$0201a8c0@server> Yes I am seeing this. The status bar says done with no errors but all I get is a blank page hitting the refresh button brings up the page normally. Occurrence seems random. -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim Lawrence Sent: Thursday, 7 February 2008 11:19 AM To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' Subject: [AccessD] OT: IE7 not displaying Hi All: Sorry for the OT but there are more list members who view this list and may have run across this situation. Has anyone being having problems with IE7 not displaying? I believe it is something to do with the latest Flash update, as it seems to only be affected by sites that have some Flash on the page. There are no error messages just a blank screen... FF has no such issues and unless a resolution is forth coming will have to set the default to FF. Any thoughts? Jim -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From Patricia.O'Connor at otda.state.ny.us Thu Feb 7 16:05:03 2008 From: Patricia.O'Connor at otda.state.ny.us (O'Connor, Patricia (OTDA)) Date: Thu, 7 Feb 2008 17:05:03 -0500 Subject: [AccessD] OT: FoxPro corrupt DBF In-Reply-To: <005601c862b4$f3781e30$8abea8c0@XPS> References: <005e01c853ba$d36fc880$657aa8c0@M90><000501c853c0$57952ec0$8119fea9@LTVM><01DBAB52E30A9A4AB3D94EF8029EDBE8021BB207@EXCNYSM0A1AI.nysemail.nyenet> <005601c862b4$f3781e30$8abea8c0@XPS> Message-ID: <01DBAB52E30A9A4AB3D94EF8029EDBE8021BB247@EXCNYSM0A1AI.nysemail.nyenet> in Access there is compact and repair how do you fix a foxpro dbf that comes up saying it is corrupt and I can't even view it. we are trying to run a monthly update for the 1st time since the owner left so this is a bit of a problem Thanks ************************************************** * Patricia O'Connor * Associate Computer Programmer Analyst * OTDA - BDMA * (W) mailto:Patricia.O'Connor at otda.state.ny.us * (w) mailto:aa1160 at nysemail.state.ny.us ************************************************** > -------------------------------------------------------- This e-mail, including any attachments, may be confidential, privileged or otherwise legally protected. It is intended only for the addressee. If you received this e-mail in error or from someone who was not authorized to send it to you, do not disseminate, copy or otherwise use this e-mail or its attachments. Please notify the sender immediately by reply e-mail and delete the e-mail from your system. From actebs at actebs.com.au Thu Feb 7 16:58:36 2008 From: actebs at actebs.com.au (ACTEBS) Date: Fri, 8 Feb 2008 09:58:36 +1100 Subject: [AccessD] Open Query Within Form In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <000601c869dc$f8822720$1b08a8c0@theblues.local> Gustav, Many thanks. That did the trick. You're a GOD! Regards Vlad -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gustav Brock Sent: Monday, 4 February 2008 6:02 PM To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: Re: [AccessD] Open Query Within Form Hi Vlad I think what most do is to reassign the ControlSource for the TextBoxes (named sequentially) in the (sub)form - DataView or not - to the field names of the recordset from the query, as this: intFields = Fields.Count - 1 For intField = 0 To intFields Me.Control("PrefixOfControlName" & CStr(intField)).ControlSource = rst.Fields(intField).Name Next You may need to have the control sources initially to be empty. /gustav >>> actebs at actebs.com.au 04-02-2008 05:09:54 >>> Hi Everyone, Just wondering whether it is possible to open a query within a form? Strange request I know, but a simple Datasheet form won't work because the field names for the query are changed programmatically on fly each time the user changes the criteria. For example he/she might choose data between Jan 2007 to Dec 2007 and I recreate the query on the fly with field names Jan 07, Feb 07, Mar 07 etc etc I hope that makes sense. Any help will be most appreciated. Regards Vlad -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From Darryl.Collins at coles.com.au Thu Feb 7 17:10:23 2008 From: Darryl.Collins at coles.com.au (Darryl Collins) Date: Fri, 8 Feb 2008 10:10:23 +1100 Subject: [AccessD] OT: FoxPro corrupt DBF Message-ID: <49DFE57FB126044B8A8B934E7AEA09ED09FD6ED4@WPEXCH05.colesmyer.ad.cmltd.net.au> Hey Patricia, That sounds like no fun at all. I did a quick yahoo search on "FoxPro Database Corruption Fix" and there seemed to be a fair few options - some of them look like they cost. good luck Regards Darryl. -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of O'Connor, Patricia (OTDA) Sent: Friday, 8 February 2008 9:05 AM To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving Cc: poc231st at hotmail.com Subject: [AccessD] OT: FoxPro corrupt DBF in Access there is compact and repair how do you fix a foxpro dbf that comes up saying it is corrupt and I can't even view it. we are trying to run a monthly update for the 1st time since the owner left so this is a bit of a problem Thanks ************************************************** * Patricia O'Connor * Associate Computer Programmer Analyst * OTDA - BDMA * (W) mailto:Patricia.O'Connor at otda.state.ny.us * (w) mailto:aa1160 at nysemail.state.ny.us ************************************************** > -------------------------------------------------------- This e-mail, including any attachments, may be confidential, privileged or otherwise legally protected. 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Any loss/damage incurred by using this material is not the sender's responsibility. The sender's entire liability will be limited to resupplying the material. From max.wanadoo at gmail.com Thu Feb 7 17:26:55 2008 From: max.wanadoo at gmail.com (Max Wanadoo) Date: Thu, 7 Feb 2008 23:26:55 -0000 Subject: [AccessD] Automation of word In-Reply-To: <00b801c86812$72c43360$0401a8c0@M90> References: <005601c8673d$054b3520$0401a8c0@M90><001a01c86743$06babbf0$0301a8c0@HAL9005><008001c86749$2c17a600$0401a8c0@M90><001b01c867e3$2663c910$8119fea9@LTVM><00af01c867fa$89035100$0401a8c0@M90><002001c86802$2c3715d0$8119fea9@LTVM><00b401c86806$4171f920$0401a8c0@M90><002701c8680a$6d418030$8119fea9@LTVM> <00b801c86812$72c43360$0401a8c0@M90> Message-ID: <001801c869e0$ee310580$8119fea9@LTVM> John, I have had a play with this but I cannot get the WithEvents part of the Class module to kick-in. If you go directly to the command "objword.appWord.ActiveDocument.Close" then the WithEvents kicks in ok, but i cannot make it happen when the user uses the BIG X on the document. You know more about Classes than I. You may be able to get it working. Max HERE IS THE CLASS MODULE (clsWord) Option Compare Database Option Explicit ' Set reference to Microsoft Word 11.0 object library Public WithEvents appWord As Word.Application Private Sub appWord_DocumentBeforeClose(ByVal Doc As Word.Document, Cancel As Boolean) MsgBox "Please close the document using the button on the Data Form" Cancel = True End Sub Private Sub Class_Initialize() On Error Resume Next Set appWord = New Word.Application If Err.Number <> 0 Then Err.Clear End If End Sub Private Sub Class_Terminate() Set appWord = Nothing End Sub HERE IS THE MODULE CODE WHICH USES THE CLASS (modWord) Option Compare Database Option Explicit Private objword As New appWord Private Function fTestWordObject() Dim strLetter As String, strSalutation As String, strID As String, strAddr As String strLetter = "c:\Test.dot": strSalutation = "Dear Sirs,": strID = "123" strAddr = "123 High St" & vbCrLf & "Derby" & vbCrLf & "UK" ' Dim objword As New appWord objword.appWord.Documents.Add Template:=strLetter, newtemplate:=False objword.appWord.Visible = True With objword.appWord.ActiveDocument.Bookmarks .Item("ID").Range.Text = strID .Item("Date").Range.Text = CStr(Format(Date, "long date")) .Item("Address").Range.Text = strAddr .Item("Salutation").Range.Text = strSalutation End With exithere: Set objword = Nothing Exit Function End Function ' assume this is the button code on the form to close the document Private Sub ButCloseWord_Click() Dim intResponse As Integer intResponse = MsgBox("Do you want to close the document?", vbYesNo) If intResponse = vbYes Then objword.appWord.ActiveDocument.Close True End If End Sub From drawbridgej at sympatico.ca Thu Feb 7 19:15:25 2008 From: drawbridgej at sympatico.ca (Jack and Pat) Date: Thu, 7 Feb 2008 20:15:25 -0500 Subject: [AccessD] OT: FoxPro corrupt DBF In-Reply-To: <01DBAB52E30A9A4AB3D94EF8029EDBE8021BB247@EXCNYSM0A1AI.nysemail.nyenet> References: <005e01c853ba$d36fc880$657aa8c0@M90><000501c853c0$57952ec0$8119fea9@LTVM><01DBAB52E30A9A4AB3D94EF8029EDBE8021BB207@EXCNYSM0A1AI.nysemail.nyenet><005601c862b4$f3781e30$8abea8c0@XPS> <01DBAB52E30A9A4AB3D94EF8029EDBE8021BB247@EXCNYSM0A1AI.nysemail.nyenet> Message-ID: <002a01c869f0$16212e80$6501a8c0@home6399619597> Patricia, I'm not a Foxpro person, but do recognize the kind of problem you have. I did some searching , as did Darryl, and found a number of for a price Repair tools. I did find a thread on tek-tips that does try a command from the command line prompt. Again, you may have tried this already. It's the Open database ... validate message at the end of the thread. http://www.tek-tips.com/viewthread.cfm?qid=1217823 Good luck. -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of O'Connor, Patricia (OTDA) Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2008 5:05 PM To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving Cc: poc231st at hotmail.com Subject: [AccessD] OT: FoxPro corrupt DBF in Access there is compact and repair how do you fix a foxpro dbf that comes up saying it is corrupt and I can't even view it. we are trying to run a monthly update for the 1st time since the owner left so this is a bit of a problem Thanks ************************************************** * Patricia O'Connor * Associate Computer Programmer Analyst * OTDA - BDMA * (W) mailto:Patricia.O'Connor at otda.state.ny.us * (w) mailto:aa1160 at nysemail.state.ny.us ************************************************** > -------------------------------------------------------- This e-mail, including any attachments, may be confidential, privileged or otherwise legally protected. It is intended only for the addressee. If you received this e-mail in error or from someone who was not authorized to send it to you, do not disseminate, copy or otherwise use this e-mail or its attachments. Please notify the sender immediately by reply e-mail and delete the e-mail from your system. -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From Erwin.Craps at ithelps.eu Fri Feb 8 01:49:27 2008 From: Erwin.Craps at ithelps.eu (Erwin Craps - IT Helps) Date: Fri, 8 Feb 2008 08:49:27 +0100 Subject: [AccessD] How to Supress the "Click to Cancel" dialog box whenyou are printing reports References: <001001c85574$b3b80cd0$0202a8c0@Laptop> Message-ID: <430E80531228BA4497C5EB1A7BA786B006A8E4@stekelbes.ithelps.local> There is a way to see if the job was canceled before the print was finished, but I'm not sure if this is a solution for you, because it's not a cancel the calcellation... But you could use it to flag something and print the job again next time. I use it for printing invoices to make sure they are printed and mark them as printed. If cancelled the incvoices will be printed next time someone prints invoices. If this would help you mail me directly cause i'm really busy and not folowing the list every day. (I will post it via the list) Erwin -----Oorspronkelijk bericht----- Van: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] Namens Mark Breen Verzonden: donderdag 7 februari 2008 21:15 Aan: Access Developers discussion and problem solving Onderwerp: Re: [AccessD] How to Supress the "Click to Cancel" dialog box whenyou are printing reports Hello Michael, Sorry, I have not been in here in a while, I did download the solution, but shy-ed away from it in the fear that it would add complexity to the hundreds of jobs I was submitting. I will try it and if I can get an opinion how well it works i will post back to let the list know thanks again, Mark On 12/01/2008, Michael R Mattys wrote: > > Hi Mark, > > This is the only answer I've ever seen for that problem: > http://www.mvps.org/access/api/api0037.htm > > Michael R. Mattys > MapPoint & Access Dev > www.mattysconsulting.com > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Mark Breen" > To: > Sent: Saturday, January 12, 2008 6:26 PM > Subject: [AccessD] How to Supress the "Click to Cancel" dialog box > when you are printing reports > > > > Hello All, > > > > I hope you are all well. > > > > I am printing some reports currently using MS Access 2003 using the > > following command: DoCmd.OpenReport "rptFrontTicket" > > > > However, I am printing 1000's of these reports and I would like to > > suppress the "Click to Cancel" dialog box that appears. It probably > > does not > slow > > performance, but it makes the user experience less attractive to > > constantly see that dialog box appearing and disappearing 1000 > > times. > > > > Does anyone know how to do this? > > > > Thanks in advance, > > > > Mark > > -- > > AccessD mailing list > > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > -- > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From Gustav at cactus.dk Fri Feb 8 02:02:09 2008 From: Gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock) Date: Fri, 08 Feb 2008 09:02:09 +0100 Subject: [AccessD] Open Query Within Form Message-ID: Hi Vlad Thanks! Glad it worked for you. About the truth of your statement, we better check it out with the higher powers ... /gustav >>> actebs at actebs.com.au 07-02-2008 23:58 >>> Gustav, Many thanks. That did the trick. You're a GOD! Regards Vlad -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gustav Brock Sent: Monday, 4 February 2008 6:02 PM To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: Re: [AccessD] Open Query Within Form Hi Vlad I think what most do is to reassign the ControlSource for the TextBoxes (named sequentially) in the (sub)form - DataView or not - to the field names of the recordset from the query, as this: intFields = Fields.Count - 1 For intField = 0 To intFields Me.Control("PrefixOfControlName" & CStr(intField)).ControlSource = rst.Fields(intField).Name Next You may need to have the control sources initially to be empty. /gustav >>> actebs at actebs.com.au 04-02-2008 05:09:54 >>> Hi Everyone, Just wondering whether it is possible to open a query within a form? Strange request I know, but a simple Datasheet form won't work because the field names for the query are changed programmatically on fly each time the user changes the criteria. For example he/she might choose data between Jan 2007 to Dec 2007 and I recreate the query on the fly with field names Jan 07, Feb 07, Mar 07 etc etc I hope that makes sense. Any help will be most appreciated. Regards Vlad From max.wanadoo at gmail.com Fri Feb 8 05:04:09 2008 From: max.wanadoo at gmail.com (Max Wanadoo) Date: Fri, 8 Feb 2008 11:04:09 -0000 Subject: [AccessD] Open Query Within Form In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <003201c86a42$55247ea0$8119fea9@LTVM> Did he mis-type DOG? Max -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gustav Brock Sent: Friday, February 08, 2008 8:02 AM To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: Re: [AccessD] Open Query Within Form Hi Vlad Thanks! Glad it worked for you. About the truth of your statement, we better check it out with the higher powers ... /gustav >>> actebs at actebs.com.au 07-02-2008 23:58 >>> Gustav, Many thanks. That did the trick. You're a GOD! Regards Vlad -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gustav Brock Sent: Monday, 4 February 2008 6:02 PM To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: Re: [AccessD] Open Query Within Form Hi Vlad I think what most do is to reassign the ControlSource for the TextBoxes (named sequentially) in the (sub)form - DataView or not - to the field names of the recordset from the query, as this: intFields = Fields.Count - 1 For intField = 0 To intFields Me.Control("PrefixOfControlName" & CStr(intField)).ControlSource = rst.Fields(intField).Name Next You may need to have the control sources initially to be empty. /gustav >>> actebs at actebs.com.au 04-02-2008 05:09:54 >>> Hi Everyone, Just wondering whether it is possible to open a query within a form? Strange request I know, but a simple Datasheet form won't work because the field names for the query are changed programmatically on fly each time the user changes the criteria. For example he/she might choose data between Jan 2007 to Dec 2007 and I recreate the query on the fly with field names Jan 07, Feb 07, Mar 07 etc etc I hope that makes sense. Any help will be most appreciated. Regards Vlad -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From fuller.artful at gmail.com Fri Feb 8 05:10:54 2008 From: fuller.artful at gmail.com (Arthur Fuller) Date: Fri, 8 Feb 2008 06:10:54 -0500 Subject: [AccessD] Open Query Within Form In-Reply-To: <003201c86a42$55247ea0$8119fea9@LTVM> References: <003201c86a42$55247ea0$8119fea9@LTVM> Message-ID: <29f585dd0802080310o3379b7e4xbd47b574974e54e4@mail.gmail.com> It's Friday so I guess I can resurrect the old joke about the agnostic dyslexic insomniac who stayed up all night wondering if there really was a dog. A. On Fri, Feb 8, 2008 at 6:04 AM, Max Wanadoo wrote: > Did he mis-type DOG? > Max > From max.wanadoo at gmail.com Fri Feb 8 05:22:55 2008 From: max.wanadoo at gmail.com (Max Wanadoo) Date: Fri, 8 Feb 2008 11:22:55 -0000 Subject: [AccessD] Open Query Within Form In-Reply-To: <29f585dd0802080310o3379b7e4xbd47b574974e54e4@mail.gmail.com> References: <003201c86a42$55247ea0$8119fea9@LTVM> <29f585dd0802080310o3379b7e4xbd47b574974e54e4@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <003901c86a44$f47a3830$8119fea9@LTVM> Very doog Arthur! Max ps. Your up early! -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Arthur Fuller Sent: Friday, February 08, 2008 11:11 AM To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving Subject: Re: [AccessD] Open Query Within Form It's Friday so I guess I can resurrect the old joke about the agnostic dyslexic insomniac who stayed up all night wondering if there really was a dog. A. On Fri, Feb 8, 2008 at 6:04 AM, Max Wanadoo wrote: > Did he mis-type DOG? > Max > -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From Gustav at cactus.dk Fri Feb 8 05:23:48 2008 From: Gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock) Date: Fri, 08 Feb 2008 12:23:48 +0100 Subject: [AccessD] Open Query Within Form Message-ID: Hi Arthur And how would he know? A barf from "above"? /gustav >>> fuller.artful at gmail.com 08-02-2008 12:10 >>> It's Friday so I guess I can resurrect the old joke about the agnostic dyslexic insomniac who stayed up all night wondering if there really was a dog. A. On Fri, Feb 8, 2008 at 6:04 AM, Max Wanadoo wrote: > Did he mis-type DOG? > Max From zora_db at yahoo.com Fri Feb 8 05:36:08 2008 From: zora_db at yahoo.com (Roz Clarke) Date: Fri, 8 Feb 2008 03:36:08 -0800 (PST) Subject: [AccessD] Open Query Within Form Message-ID: <234495.16024.qm@web50110.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Things have obviously gotten lax around here while I was away... ;) Roz ----- Original Message ---- From: Gustav Brock To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Sent: Friday, 8 February, 2008 11:23:48 AM Subject: Re: [AccessD] Open Query Within Form Hi Arthur And how would he know? A barf from "above"? /gustav >>> fuller.artful at gmail.com 08-02-2008 12:10 >>> It's Friday so I guess I can resurrect the old joke about the agnostic dyslexic insomniac who stayed up all night wondering if there really was a dog. A. On Fri, Feb 8, 2008 at 6:04 AM, Max Wanadoo wrote: > Did he mis-type DOG? > Max -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com ___________________________________________________________ Yahoo! Answers - Got a question? Someone out there knows the answer. Try it now. http://uk.answers.yahoo.com/ From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com Fri Feb 8 06:11:02 2008 From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (jwcolby) Date: Fri, 8 Feb 2008 07:11:02 -0500 Subject: [AccessD] Open Query Within Form In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <00b501c86a4b$ad02ea40$0401a8c0@M90> I checked with God, and he said Gustav is good but not THAT good! ;-) John W. Colby Colby Consulting www.ColbyConsulting.com -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gustav Brock Sent: Friday, February 08, 2008 3:02 AM To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: Re: [AccessD] Open Query Within Form Hi Vlad Thanks! Glad it worked for you. About the truth of your statement, we better check it out with the higher powers ... /gustav >>> actebs at actebs.com.au 07-02-2008 23:58 >>> Gustav, Many thanks. That did the trick. You're a GOD! Regards Vlad -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gustav Brock Sent: Monday, 4 February 2008 6:02 PM To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: Re: [AccessD] Open Query Within Form Hi Vlad I think what most do is to reassign the ControlSource for the TextBoxes (named sequentially) in the (sub)form - DataView or not - to the field names of the recordset from the query, as this: intFields = Fields.Count - 1 For intField = 0 To intFields Me.Control("PrefixOfControlName" & CStr(intField)).ControlSource = rst.Fields(intField).Name Next You may need to have the control sources initially to be empty. /gustav >>> actebs at actebs.com.au 04-02-2008 05:09:54 >>> Hi Everyone, Just wondering whether it is possible to open a query within a form? Strange request I know, but a simple Datasheet form won't work because the field names for the query are changed programmatically on fly each time the user changes the criteria. For example he/she might choose data between Jan 2007 to Dec 2007 and I recreate the query on the fly with field names Jan 07, Feb 07, Mar 07 etc etc I hope that makes sense. Any help will be most appreciated. Regards Vlad -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com Fri Feb 8 06:12:07 2008 From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (jwcolby) Date: Fri, 8 Feb 2008 07:12:07 -0500 Subject: [AccessD] Open Query Within Form In-Reply-To: <234495.16024.qm@web50110.mail.re2.yahoo.com> References: <234495.16024.qm@web50110.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <00b601c86a4b$d3ae0df0$0401a8c0@M90> Hey Roz, good to "see" you. Just couldn't stay away eh? John W. Colby Colby Consulting www.ColbyConsulting.com -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Roz Clarke Sent: Friday, February 08, 2008 6:36 AM To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving Subject: Re: [AccessD] Open Query Within Form Things have obviously gotten lax around here while I was away... ;) Roz ----- Original Message ---- From: Gustav Brock To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Sent: Friday, 8 February, 2008 11:23:48 AM Subject: Re: [AccessD] Open Query Within Form Hi Arthur And how would he know? A barf from "above"? /gustav >>> fuller.artful at gmail.com 08-02-2008 12:10 >>> It's Friday so I guess I can resurrect the old joke about the agnostic dyslexic insomniac who stayed up all night wondering if there really was a dog. A. On Fri, Feb 8, 2008 at 6:04 AM, Max Wanadoo wrote: > Did he mis-type DOG? > Max -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com ___________________________________________________________ Yahoo! Answers - Got a question? Someone out there knows the answer. Try it now. http://uk.answers.yahoo.com/ -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From max.wanadoo at gmail.com Fri Feb 8 06:17:12 2008 From: max.wanadoo at gmail.com (Max Wanadoo) Date: Fri, 8 Feb 2008 12:17:12 -0000 Subject: [AccessD] Open Query Within Form In-Reply-To: <00b501c86a4b$ad02ea40$0401a8c0@M90> References: <00b501c86a4b$ad02ea40$0401a8c0@M90> Message-ID: <008f01c86a4c$8a0fa900$8119fea9@LTVM> Did you? When? I checked my Inbox, but nothing there from you! Max -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of jwcolby Sent: Friday, February 08, 2008 12:11 PM To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' Subject: Re: [AccessD] Open Query Within Form I checked with God, and he said Gustav is good but not THAT good! ;-) John W. Colby Colby Consulting www.ColbyConsulting.com -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gustav Brock Sent: Friday, February 08, 2008 3:02 AM To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: Re: [AccessD] Open Query Within Form Hi Vlad Thanks! Glad it worked for you. About the truth of your statement, we better check it out with the higher powers ... /gustav >>> actebs at actebs.com.au 07-02-2008 23:58 >>> Gustav, Many thanks. That did the trick. You're a GOD! Regards Vlad -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gustav Brock Sent: Monday, 4 February 2008 6:02 PM To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: Re: [AccessD] Open Query Within Form Hi Vlad I think what most do is to reassign the ControlSource for the TextBoxes (named sequentially) in the (sub)form - DataView or not - to the field names of the recordset from the query, as this: intFields = Fields.Count - 1 For intField = 0 To intFields Me.Control("PrefixOfControlName" & CStr(intField)).ControlSource = rst.Fields(intField).Name Next You may need to have the control sources initially to be empty. /gustav >>> actebs at actebs.com.au 04-02-2008 05:09:54 >>> Hi Everyone, Just wondering whether it is possible to open a query within a form? Strange request I know, but a simple Datasheet form won't work because the field names for the query are changed programmatically on fly each time the user changes the criteria. For example he/she might choose data between Jan 2007 to Dec 2007 and I recreate the query on the fly with field names Jan 07, Feb 07, Mar 07 etc etc I hope that makes sense. Any help will be most appreciated. Regards Vlad -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com Fri Feb 8 06:36:01 2008 From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (jwcolby) Date: Fri, 8 Feb 2008 07:36:01 -0500 Subject: [AccessD] Open Query Within Form In-Reply-To: <008f01c86a4c$8a0fa900$8119fea9@LTVM> References: <00b501c86a4b$ad02ea40$0401a8c0@M90> <008f01c86a4c$8a0fa900$8119fea9@LTVM> Message-ID: <00bc01c86a4f$29f45c20$0401a8c0@M90> I just checked with God and he said he has something "special" headed your way. ;-) He also told me to stop bothering him about such petty things. LOL. John W. Colby Colby Consulting www.ColbyConsulting.com -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Max Wanadoo Sent: Friday, February 08, 2008 7:17 AM To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' Subject: Re: [AccessD] Open Query Within Form Did you? When? I checked my Inbox, but nothing there from you! Max -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of jwcolby Sent: Friday, February 08, 2008 12:11 PM To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' Subject: Re: [AccessD] Open Query Within Form I checked with God, and he said Gustav is good but not THAT good! ;-) John W. Colby Colby Consulting www.ColbyConsulting.com -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gustav Brock Sent: Friday, February 08, 2008 3:02 AM To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: Re: [AccessD] Open Query Within Form Hi Vlad Thanks! Glad it worked for you. About the truth of your statement, we better check it out with the higher powers ... /gustav >>> actebs at actebs.com.au 07-02-2008 23:58 >>> Gustav, Many thanks. That did the trick. You're a GOD! Regards Vlad -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gustav Brock Sent: Monday, 4 February 2008 6:02 PM To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: Re: [AccessD] Open Query Within Form Hi Vlad I think what most do is to reassign the ControlSource for the TextBoxes (named sequentially) in the (sub)form - DataView or not - to the field names of the recordset from the query, as this: intFields = Fields.Count - 1 For intField = 0 To intFields Me.Control("PrefixOfControlName" & CStr(intField)).ControlSource = rst.Fields(intField).Name Next You may need to have the control sources initially to be empty. /gustav >>> actebs at actebs.com.au 04-02-2008 05:09:54 >>> Hi Everyone, Just wondering whether it is possible to open a query within a form? Strange request I know, but a simple Datasheet form won't work because the field names for the query are changed programmatically on fly each time the user changes the criteria. For example he/she might choose data between Jan 2007 to Dec 2007 and I recreate the query on the fly with field names Jan 07, Feb 07, Mar 07 etc etc I hope that makes sense. Any help will be most appreciated. Regards Vlad -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From Patricia.O'Connor at otda.state.ny.us Fri Feb 8 06:34:35 2008 From: Patricia.O'Connor at otda.state.ny.us (O'Connor, Patricia (OTDA)) Date: Fri, 8 Feb 2008 07:34:35 -0500 Subject: [AccessD] OT: FoxPro corrupt DBF References: <49DFE57FB126044B8A8B934E7AEA09ED09FD6ED4@WPEXCH05.colesmyer.ad.cmltd.net.au> Message-ID: <01DBAB52E30A9A4AB3D94EF8029EDBE80253C203@EXCNYSM0A1AI.nysemail.nyenet> I did a google also and came up with quite a few also. I just don't know which one was ok and honestly did not want to have to ask to spend more money on this system. Personally I want to switch it to Access or SqlSrv back with Access FE. I am hoping we have the table on a backup tape -- keep fingers crossed Thanks all ************************************************************* * Patricia E. O'Connor * Associate Computer Programmer/Analyst * OTDA - BDMA * (W) mailto:Patricia.O'Connor at otda.state.ny.us * (W) mailto:aa1160 at otda.state.ny.us *********************************************************** -------------------------------------------------------- This e-mail, including any attachments, may be confidential, privileged or otherwise legally protected. It is intended only for the addressee. If you received this e-mail in error or from someone who was not authorized to send it to you, do not disseminate, copy or otherwise use this e-mail or its attachments. Please notify the sender immediately by reply e-mail and delete the e-mail from your system. ________________________________ From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com on behalf of Darryl Collins Sent: Thu 02/07/2008 6:10 PM To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving Subject: Re: [AccessD] OT: FoxPro corrupt DBF Hey Patricia, That sounds like no fun at all. I did a quick yahoo search on "FoxPro Database Corruption Fix" and there seemed to be a fair few options - some of them look like they cost. good luck Regards Darryl. From zora_db at yahoo.com Fri Feb 8 06:44:29 2008 From: zora_db at yahoo.com (Roz Clarke) Date: Fri, 8 Feb 2008 04:44:29 -0800 (PST) Subject: [AccessD] Open Query Within Form Message-ID: <765127.32364.qm@web50103.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Hey John. No, indeed. Once Accessd, always AccessD... ----- Original Message ---- From: jwcolby To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving Sent: Friday, 8 February, 2008 12:12:07 PM Subject: Re: [AccessD] Open Query Within Form Hey Roz, good to "see" you. Just couldn't stay away eh? John W. Colby Colby Consulting www.ColbyConsulting.com -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Roz Clarke Sent: Friday, February 08, 2008 6:36 AM To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving Subject: Re: [AccessD] Open Query Within Form Things have obviously gotten lax around here while I was away... ;) Roz ----- Original Message ---- From: Gustav Brock To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Sent: Friday, 8 February, 2008 11:23:48 AM Subject: Re: [AccessD] Open Query Within Form Hi Arthur And how would he know? A barf from "above"? /gustav >>> fuller.artful at gmail.com 08-02-2008 12:10 >>> It's Friday so I guess I can resurrect the old joke about the agnostic dyslexic insomniac who stayed up all night wondering if there really was a dog. A. On Fri, Feb 8, 2008 at 6:04 AM, Max Wanadoo wrote: > Did he mis-type DOG? > Max -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com ___________________________________________________________ Yahoo! Answers - Got a question? Someone out there knows the answer. Try it now. http://uk.answers.yahoo.com/ -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com ___________________________________________________________ Yahoo! Answers - Got a question? Someone out there knows the answer. Try it now. http://uk.answers.yahoo.com/ From Gustav at cactus.dk Fri Feb 8 06:49:30 2008 From: Gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock) Date: Fri, 08 Feb 2008 13:49:30 +0100 Subject: [AccessD] Open Query Within Form Message-ID: Hi Roz Nice to hear from you! But what did you expect from us on a Friday? A couple of toasted code lines for lunch? /gustav >>> zora_db at yahoo.com 08-02-2008 12:36 >>> Things have obviously gotten lax around here while I was away... ;) Roz ----- Original Message ---- From: Gustav Brock To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Sent: Friday, 8 February, 2008 11:23:48 AM Subject: Re: [AccessD] Open Query Within Form Hi Arthur And how would he know? A barf from "above"? /gustav >>> fuller.artful at gmail.com 08-02-2008 12:10 >>> It's Friday so I guess I can resurrect the old joke about the agnostic dyslexic insomniac who stayed up all night wondering if there really was a dog. A. On Fri, Feb 8, 2008 at 6:04 AM, Max Wanadoo wrote: > Did he mis-type DOG? > Max From lembit.dbamail at t-online.de Fri Feb 8 07:58:54 2008 From: lembit.dbamail at t-online.de (Lembit Soobik) Date: Fri, 8 Feb 2008 14:58:54 +0100 Subject: [AccessD] Open Query Within Form References: <234495.16024.qm@web50110.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <001601c86a5a$be55e400$1800a8c0@s1800> Wow, Roz, you back to Access Development? Lembit ----- Original Message ----- From: "Roz Clarke" To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving" Sent: Friday, February 08, 2008 12:36 PM Subject: Re: [AccessD] Open Query Within Form > Things have obviously gotten lax around here while I was away... > > ;) > > Roz > > ----- Original Message ---- > From: Gustav Brock > To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com > Sent: Friday, 8 February, 2008 11:23:48 AM > Subject: Re: [AccessD] Open Query Within Form > > Hi Arthur > > And how would he know? A barf from "above"? > > /gustav > >>>> fuller.artful at gmail.com 08-02-2008 12:10 >>> > It's Friday so I guess I can resurrect the old joke about the agnostic > dyslexic insomniac who stayed up all night wondering if there really was a > dog. > > A. > > On Fri, Feb 8, 2008 at 6:04 AM, Max Wanadoo wrote: > >> Did he mis-type DOG? >> Max > > > > -- > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > > ___________________________________________________________ > Yahoo! Answers - Got a question? Someone out there knows the answer. Try > it > now. > http://uk.answers.yahoo.com/ > > -- > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.19.21/1265 - Release Date: > 07.02.2008 11:17 > > From zora_db at yahoo.com Fri Feb 8 08:14:39 2008 From: zora_db at yahoo.com (Roz Clarke) Date: Fri, 8 Feb 2008 06:14:39 -0800 (PST) Subject: [AccessD] Open Query Within Form Message-ID: <633957.72067.qm@web50102.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Hi Lembit! I'm supposed to be starting a contract next week to migrate a stack of applications, including Access DBs, from an Office 2000 fat client network to an office 2003 thin client environment. Could be fun as the databases are A97, hehe. So not real development yet, but I still expect to have a few questions for you experts... ----- Original Message ---- From: Lembit Soobik To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving Sent: Friday, 8 February, 2008 1:58:54 PM Subject: Re: [AccessD] Open Query Within Form Wow, Roz, you back to Access Development? Lembit ----- Original Message ----- From: "Roz Clarke" To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving" Sent: Friday, February 08, 2008 12:36 PM Subject: Re: [AccessD] Open Query Within Form > Things have obviously gotten lax around here while I was away... > > ;) > > Roz > > ----- Original Message ---- > From: Gustav Brock > To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com > Sent: Friday, 8 February, 2008 11:23:48 AM > Subject: Re: [AccessD] Open Query Within Form > > Hi Arthur > > And how would he know? A barf from "above"? > > /gustav > >>>> fuller.artful at gmail.com 08-02-2008 12:10 >>> > It's Friday so I guess I can resurrect the old joke about the agnostic > dyslexic insomniac who stayed up all night wondering if there really was a > dog. > > A. > > On Fri, Feb 8, 2008 at 6:04 AM, Max Wanadoo wrote: > >> Did he mis-type DOG? >> Max > > > > -- > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > > ___________________________________________________________ > Yahoo! Answers - Got a question? Someone out there knows the answer. Try > it > now. > http://uk.answers.yahoo.com/ > > -- > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.19.21/1265 - Release Date: > 07.02.2008 11:17 > > -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com ___________________________________________________________ Support the World Aids Awareness campaign this month with Yahoo! For Good http://uk.promotions.yahoo.com/forgood/ From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com Fri Feb 8 08:56:33 2008 From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (jwcolby) Date: Fri, 8 Feb 2008 09:56:33 -0500 Subject: [AccessD] Open Query Within Form In-Reply-To: <633957.72067.qm@web50102.mail.re2.yahoo.com> References: <633957.72067.qm@web50102.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <00c001c86a62$cc713690$0401a8c0@M90> I think you need to address the tough questions to Gustav. He was just nominated to God status. ;-) John W. Colby Colby Consulting www.ColbyConsulting.com -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Roz Clarke Sent: Friday, February 08, 2008 9:15 AM To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving Subject: Re: [AccessD] Open Query Within Form Hi Lembit! I'm supposed to be starting a contract next week to migrate a stack of applications, including Access DBs, from an Office 2000 fat client network to an office 2003 thin client environment. Could be fun as the databases are A97, hehe. So not real development yet, but I still expect to have a few questions for you experts... ----- Original Message ---- From: Lembit Soobik To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving Sent: Friday, 8 February, 2008 1:58:54 PM Subject: Re: [AccessD] Open Query Within Form Wow, Roz, you back to Access Development? Lembit ----- Original Message ----- From: "Roz Clarke" To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving" Sent: Friday, February 08, 2008 12:36 PM Subject: Re: [AccessD] Open Query Within Form > Things have obviously gotten lax around here while I was away... > > ;) > > Roz > > ----- Original Message ---- > From: Gustav Brock > To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com > Sent: Friday, 8 February, 2008 11:23:48 AM > Subject: Re: [AccessD] Open Query Within Form > > Hi Arthur > > And how would he know? A barf from "above"? > > /gustav > >>>> fuller.artful at gmail.com 08-02-2008 12:10 >>> > It's Friday so I guess I can resurrect the old joke about the agnostic > dyslexic insomniac who stayed up all night wondering if there really was a > dog. > > A. > > On Fri, Feb 8, 2008 at 6:04 AM, Max Wanadoo wrote: > >> Did he mis-type DOG? >> Max > > > > -- > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > > ___________________________________________________________ > Yahoo! Answers - Got a question? Someone out there knows the answer. Try > it > now. > http://uk.answers.yahoo.com/ > > -- > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.19.21/1265 - Release Date: > 07.02.2008 11:17 > > -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com ___________________________________________________________ Support the World Aids Awareness campaign this month with Yahoo! For Good http://uk.promotions.yahoo.com/forgood/ -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From EdTesiny at oasas.state.ny.us Fri Feb 8 08:56:30 2008 From: EdTesiny at oasas.state.ny.us (Tesiny, Ed) Date: Fri, 8 Feb 2008 09:56:30 -0500 Subject: [AccessD] OT: FoxPro corrupt DBF In-Reply-To: <01DBAB52E30A9A4AB3D94EF8029EDBE8021BB247@EXCNYSM0A1AI.nysemail.nyenet> References: <005e01c853ba$d36fc880$657aa8c0@M90><000501c853c0$57952ec0$8119fea9@LTVM><01DBAB52E30A9A4AB3D94EF8029EDBE8021BB207@EXCNYSM0A1AI.nysemail.nyenet><005601c862b4$f3781e30$8abea8c0@XPS> <01DBAB52E30A9A4AB3D94EF8029EDBE8021BB247@EXCNYSM0A1AI.nysemail.nyenet> Message-ID: Might want to give this a try http://3d2f.com/programs/20-171-advanced-dbf-repair-download.shtml Ed Tesiny EdTesiny at oasas.state.ny.us > -----Original Message----- > From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of > O'Connor, Patricia (OTDA) > Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2008 5:05 PM > To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving > Cc: poc231st at hotmail.com > Subject: [AccessD] OT: FoxPro corrupt DBF > > in Access there is compact and repair > how do you fix a foxpro dbf that comes up saying it is corrupt and I > can't even view it. > > we are trying to run a monthly update for the 1st time since the owner > left so this is a bit of a problem > > Thanks > > ************************************************** > * Patricia O'Connor > * Associate Computer Programmer Analyst > * OTDA - BDMA > * (W) mailto:Patricia.O'Connor at otda.state.ny.us > * (w) mailto:aa1160 at nysemail.state.ny.us > ************************************************** > > > -------------------------------------------------------- > This e-mail, including any attachments, may be confidential, > privileged or otherwise legally protected. It is intended > only for the addressee. If you received this e-mail in error > or from someone who was not authorized to send it to you, do > not disseminate, copy or otherwise use this e-mail or its > attachments. Please notify the sender immediately by reply > e-mail and delete the e-mail from your system. > > > -- > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > From zora_db at yahoo.com Fri Feb 8 09:07:45 2008 From: zora_db at yahoo.com (Roz Clarke) Date: Fri, 8 Feb 2008 07:07:45 -0800 (PST) Subject: [AccessD] Open Query Within Form Message-ID: <144247.82406.qm@web50109.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Gustav has always been a god in my eyes. ----- Original Message ---- From: jwcolby To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving Sent: Friday, 8 February, 2008 2:56:33 PM Subject: Re: [AccessD] Open Query Within Form I think you need to address the tough questions to Gustav. He was just nominated to God status. ;-) John W. Colby Colby Consulting www.ColbyConsulting.com -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Roz Clarke Sent: Friday, February 08, 2008 9:15 AM To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving Subject: Re: [AccessD] Open Query Within Form Hi Lembit! I'm supposed to be starting a contract next week to migrate a stack of applications, including Access DBs, from an Office 2000 fat client network to an office 2003 thin client environment. Could be fun as the databases are A97, hehe. So not real development yet, but I still expect to have a few questions for you experts... ----- Original Message ---- From: Lembit Soobik To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving Sent: Friday, 8 February, 2008 1:58:54 PM Subject: Re: [AccessD] Open Query Within Form Wow, Roz, you back to Access Development? Lembit ----- Original Message ----- From: "Roz Clarke" To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving" Sent: Friday, February 08, 2008 12:36 PM Subject: Re: [AccessD] Open Query Within Form > Things have obviously gotten lax around here while I was away... > > ;) > > Roz > > ----- Original Message ---- > From: Gustav Brock > To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com > Sent: Friday, 8 February, 2008 11:23:48 AM > Subject: Re: [AccessD] Open Query Within Form > > Hi Arthur > > And how would he know? A barf from "above"? > > /gustav > >>>> fuller.artful at gmail.com 08-02-2008 12:10 >>> > It's Friday so I guess I can resurrect the old joke about the agnostic > dyslexic insomniac who stayed up all night wondering if there really was a > dog. > > A. > > On Fri, Feb 8, 2008 at 6:04 AM, Max Wanadoo wrote: > >> Did he mis-type DOG? >> Max > > > > -- > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > > ___________________________________________________________ > Yahoo! Answers - Got a question? Someone out there knows the answer. 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Mail - a smarter inbox http://uk.mail.yahoo.com From max.wanadoo at gmail.com Fri Feb 8 09:24:22 2008 From: max.wanadoo at gmail.com (Max Wanadoo) Date: Fri, 8 Feb 2008 15:24:22 -0000 Subject: [AccessD] Automation of word In-Reply-To: <001801c869e0$ee310580$8119fea9@LTVM> References: <005601c8673d$054b3520$0401a8c0@M90><001a01c86743$06babbf0$0301a8c0@HAL9005><008001c86749$2c17a600$0401a8c0@M90><001b01c867e3$2663c910$8119fea9@LTVM><00af01c867fa$89035100$0401a8c0@M90><002001c86802$2c3715d0$8119fea9@LTVM><00b401c86806$4171f920$0401a8c0@M90><002701c8680a$6d418030$8119fea9@LTVM><00b801c86812$72c43360$0401a8c0@M90> <001801c869e0$ee310580$8119fea9@LTVM> Message-ID: <000001c86a66$afbcbed0$8119fea9@LTVM> John, Have you tried this yet?? Max -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Max Wanadoo Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2008 11:27 PM To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' Subject: Re: [AccessD] Automation of word John, I have had a play with this but I cannot get the WithEvents part of the Class module to kick-in. If you go directly to the command "objword.appWord.ActiveDocument.Close" then the WithEvents kicks in ok, but i cannot make it happen when the user uses the BIG X on the document. You know more about Classes than I. You may be able to get it working. Max HERE IS THE CLASS MODULE (clsWord) Option Compare Database Option Explicit ' Set reference to Microsoft Word 11.0 object library Public WithEvents appWord As Word.Application Private Sub appWord_DocumentBeforeClose(ByVal Doc As Word.Document, Cancel As Boolean) MsgBox "Please close the document using the button on the Data Form" Cancel = True End Sub Private Sub Class_Initialize() On Error Resume Next Set appWord = New Word.Application If Err.Number <> 0 Then Err.Clear End If End Sub Private Sub Class_Terminate() Set appWord = Nothing End Sub HERE IS THE MODULE CODE WHICH USES THE CLASS (modWord) Option Compare Database Option Explicit Private objword As New appWord Private Function fTestWordObject() Dim strLetter As String, strSalutation As String, strID As String, strAddr As String strLetter = "c:\Test.dot": strSalutation = "Dear Sirs,": strID = "123" strAddr = "123 High St" & vbCrLf & "Derby" & vbCrLf & "UK" ' Dim objword As New appWord objword.appWord.Documents.Add Template:=strLetter, newtemplate:=False objword.appWord.Visible = True With objword.appWord.ActiveDocument.Bookmarks .Item("ID").Range.Text = strID .Item("Date").Range.Text = CStr(Format(Date, "long date")) .Item("Address").Range.Text = strAddr .Item("Salutation").Range.Text = strSalutation End With exithere: Set objword = Nothing Exit Function End Function ' assume this is the button code on the form to close the document Private Sub ButCloseWord_Click() Dim intResponse As Integer intResponse = MsgBox("Do you want to close the document?", vbYesNo) If intResponse = vbYes Then objword.appWord.ActiveDocument.Close True End If End Sub -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From Gustav at cactus.dk Fri Feb 8 09:53:59 2008 From: Gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock) Date: Fri, 08 Feb 2008 16:53:59 +0100 Subject: [AccessD] Open Query Within Form Message-ID: Hi Roz Oh please ... I'm flattered but still just a mortal guy looking forward to a Friday afternoon beer! By the way, what is an Office thin client network? Is that Office installed on a Terminal Server or similar and users hooked up with thin client terminals? /gustav >>> zora_db at yahoo.com 08-02-2008 16:07 >>> Gustav has always been a god in my eyes. ----- Original Message ---- From: jwcolby To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving Sent: Friday, 8 February, 2008 2:56:33 PM Subject: Re: [AccessD] Open Query Within Form I think you need to address the tough questions to Gustav. He was just nominated to God status. ;-) John W. Colby Colby Consulting www.ColbyConsulting.com -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Roz Clarke Sent: Friday, February 08, 2008 9:15 AM To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving Subject: Re: [AccessD] Open Query Within Form Hi Lembit! I'm supposed to be starting a contract next week to migrate a stack of applications, including Access DBs, from an Office 2000 fat client network to an office 2003 thin client environment. Could be fun as the databases are A97, hehe. So not real development yet, but I still expect to have a few questions for you experts... ----- Original Message ---- From: Lembit Soobik To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving Sent: Friday, 8 February, 2008 1:58:54 PM Subject: Re: [AccessD] Open Query Within Form Wow, Roz, you back to Access Development? Lembit ----- Original Message ----- From: "Roz Clarke" To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving" Sent: Friday, February 08, 2008 12:36 PM Subject: Re: [AccessD] Open Query Within Form > Things have obviously gotten lax around here while I was away... > > ;) > > Roz > > ----- Original Message ---- > From: Gustav Brock > To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com > Sent: Friday, 8 February, 2008 11:23:48 AM > Subject: Re: [AccessD] Open Query Within Form > > Hi Arthur > > And how would he know? A barf from "above"? > > /gustav > >>>> fuller.artful at gmail.com 08-02-2008 12:10 >>> > It's Friday so I guess I can resurrect the old joke about the agnostic > dyslexic insomniac who stayed up all night wondering if there really was a > dog. > > A. > > On Fri, Feb 8, 2008 at 6:04 AM, Max Wanadoo wrote: > >> Did he mis-type DOG? >> Max From zora_db at yahoo.com Fri Feb 8 10:06:13 2008 From: zora_db at yahoo.com (Roz Clarke) Date: Fri, 8 Feb 2008 08:06:13 -0800 (PST) Subject: [AccessD] Open Query Within Form Message-ID: <270181.12032.qm@web50110.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Yeah, as in Office running on a TS network - just me being lazy and leaving words out! Beer - what a lovely idea. ----- Original Message ---- From: Gustav Brock To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Sent: Friday, 8 February, 2008 3:53:59 PM Subject: Re: [AccessD] Open Query Within Form Hi Roz Oh please ... I'm flattered but still just a mortal guy looking forward to a Friday afternoon beer! By the way, what is an Office thin client network? Is that Office installed on a Terminal Server or similar and users hooked up with thin client terminals? /gustav >>> zora_db at yahoo.com 08-02-2008 16:07 >>> Gustav has always been a god in my eyes. ----- Original Message ---- From: jwcolby To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving Sent: Friday, 8 February, 2008 2:56:33 PM Subject: Re: [AccessD] Open Query Within Form I think you need to address the tough questions to Gustav. He was just nominated to God status. ;-) John W. Colby Colby Consulting www.ColbyConsulting.com -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Roz Clarke Sent: Friday, February 08, 2008 9:15 AM To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving Subject: Re: [AccessD] Open Query Within Form Hi Lembit! I'm supposed to be starting a contract next week to migrate a stack of applications, including Access DBs, from an Office 2000 fat client network to an office 2003 thin client environment. Could be fun as the databases are A97, hehe. So not real development yet, but I still expect to have a few questions for you experts... ----- Original Message ---- From: Lembit Soobik To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving Sent: Friday, 8 February, 2008 1:58:54 PM Subject: Re: [AccessD] Open Query Within Form Wow, Roz, you back to Access Development? Lembit ----- Original Message ----- From: "Roz Clarke" To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving" Sent: Friday, February 08, 2008 12:36 PM Subject: Re: [AccessD] Open Query Within Form > Things have obviously gotten lax around here while I was away... > > ;) > > Roz > > ----- Original Message ---- > From: Gustav Brock > To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com > Sent: Friday, 8 February, 2008 11:23:48 AM > Subject: Re: [AccessD] Open Query Within Form > > Hi Arthur > > And how would he know? A barf from "above"? > > /gustav > >>>> fuller.artful at gmail.com 08-02-2008 12:10 >>> > It's Friday so I guess I can resurrect the old joke about the agnostic > dyslexic insomniac who stayed up all night wondering if there really was a > dog. > > A. > > On Fri, Feb 8, 2008 at 6:04 AM, Max Wanadoo wrote: > >> Did he mis-type DOG? >> Max -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com ___________________________________________________________ Support the World Aids Awareness campaign this month with Yahoo! For Good http://uk.promotions.yahoo.com/forgood/ From garykjos at gmail.com Fri Feb 8 10:16:04 2008 From: garykjos at gmail.com (Gary Kjos) Date: Fri, 8 Feb 2008 10:16:04 -0600 Subject: [AccessD] Open Query Within Form In-Reply-To: <270181.12032.qm@web50110.mail.re2.yahoo.com> References: <270181.12032.qm@web50110.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Welcome back Roz! You folks are probably close to quitting time over there I bet. Only coming up to lunch time here. Have one for me! GK On 2/8/08, Roz Clarke wrote: > Yeah, as in Office running on a TS network - just me being lazy and leaving words out! > > Beer - what a lovely idea. > > ----- Original Message ---- > From: Gustav Brock > To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com > Sent: Friday, 8 February, 2008 3:53:59 PM > Subject: Re: [AccessD] Open Query Within Form > > Hi Roz > > Oh please ... I'm flattered but still just a mortal guy looking forward to a Friday afternoon beer! > > By the way, what is an Office thin client network? Is that Office installed on a Terminal Server or similar and users hooked up with thin client terminals? > > /gustav > -- Gary Kjos garykjos at gmail.com From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com Fri Feb 8 10:21:18 2008 From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (jwcolby) Date: Fri, 8 Feb 2008 11:21:18 -0500 Subject: [AccessD] Automation of word In-Reply-To: <000001c86a66$afbcbed0$8119fea9@LTVM> References: <005601c8673d$054b3520$0401a8c0@M90><001a01c86743$06babbf0$0301a8c0@HAL9005><008001c86749$2c17a600$0401a8c0@M90><001b01c867e3$2663c910$8119fea9@LTVM><00af01c867fa$89035100$0401a8c0@M90><002001c86802$2c3715d0$8119fea9@LTVM><00b401c86806$4171f920$0401a8c0@M90><002701c8680a$6d418030$8119fea9@LTVM><00b801c86812$72c43360$0401a8c0@M90><001801c869e0$ee310580$8119fea9@LTVM> <000001c86a66$afbcbed0$8119fea9@LTVM> Message-ID: <00f401c86a6e$a2d453b0$0401a8c0@M90> I haven't yet but I will look at it as I finish the refactoring of that module. John W. Colby Colby Consulting www.ColbyConsulting.com -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Max Wanadoo Sent: Friday, February 08, 2008 10:24 AM To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' Subject: Re: [AccessD] Automation of word John, Have you tried this yet?? Max -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Max Wanadoo Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2008 11:27 PM To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' Subject: Re: [AccessD] Automation of word John, I have had a play with this but I cannot get the WithEvents part of the Class module to kick-in. If you go directly to the command "objword.appWord.ActiveDocument.Close" then the WithEvents kicks in ok, but i cannot make it happen when the user uses the BIG X on the document. You know more about Classes than I. You may be able to get it working. Max HERE IS THE CLASS MODULE (clsWord) Option Compare Database Option Explicit ' Set reference to Microsoft Word 11.0 object library Public WithEvents appWord As Word.Application Private Sub appWord_DocumentBeforeClose(ByVal Doc As Word.Document, Cancel As Boolean) MsgBox "Please close the document using the button on the Data Form" Cancel = True End Sub Private Sub Class_Initialize() On Error Resume Next Set appWord = New Word.Application If Err.Number <> 0 Then Err.Clear End If End Sub Private Sub Class_Terminate() Set appWord = Nothing End Sub HERE IS THE MODULE CODE WHICH USES THE CLASS (modWord) Option Compare Database Option Explicit Private objword As New appWord Private Function fTestWordObject() Dim strLetter As String, strSalutation As String, strID As String, strAddr As String strLetter = "c:\Test.dot": strSalutation = "Dear Sirs,": strID = "123" strAddr = "123 High St" & vbCrLf & "Derby" & vbCrLf & "UK" ' Dim objword As New appWord objword.appWord.Documents.Add Template:=strLetter, newtemplate:=False objword.appWord.Visible = True With objword.appWord.ActiveDocument.Bookmarks .Item("ID").Range.Text = strID .Item("Date").Range.Text = CStr(Format(Date, "long date")) .Item("Address").Range.Text = strAddr .Item("Salutation").Range.Text = strSalutation End With exithere: Set objword = Nothing Exit Function End Function ' assume this is the button code on the form to close the document Private Sub ButCloseWord_Click() Dim intResponse As Integer intResponse = MsgBox("Do you want to close the document?", vbYesNo) If intResponse = vbYes Then objword.appWord.ActiveDocument.Close True End If End Sub -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From lembit.dbamail at t-online.de Fri Feb 8 10:40:33 2008 From: lembit.dbamail at t-online.de (Lembit Soobik) Date: Fri, 8 Feb 2008 17:40:33 +0100 Subject: [AccessD] Open Query Within Form References: <633957.72067.qm@web50102.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <002601c86a71$52f3d7a0$1800a8c0@s1800> aah, from fat client to thin client... I'm trying to also lose a few pounds right now :) Lembit ----- Original Message ----- From: "Roz Clarke" To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving" Sent: Friday, February 08, 2008 3:14 PM Subject: Re: [AccessD] Open Query Within Form > Hi Lembit! > > I'm supposed to be starting a contract next week to migrate a stack of > applications, including Access DBs, from an Office 2000 fat client network > to an office 2003 thin client environment. Could be fun as the databases > are A97, hehe. So not real development yet, but I still expect to have a > few questions for you experts... > > ----- Original Message ---- > From: Lembit Soobik > To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving > > Sent: Friday, 8 February, 2008 1:58:54 PM > Subject: Re: [AccessD] Open Query Within Form > > Wow, Roz, > you back to Access Development? > > Lembit > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Roz Clarke" > To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving" > > Sent: Friday, February 08, 2008 12:36 PM > Subject: Re: [AccessD] Open Query Within Form > > >> Things have obviously gotten lax around here while I was away... >> >> ;) >> >> Roz >> >> ----- Original Message ---- >> From: Gustav Brock >> To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com >> Sent: Friday, 8 February, 2008 11:23:48 AM >> Subject: Re: [AccessD] Open Query Within Form >> >> Hi Arthur >> >> And how would he know? A barf from "above"? >> >> /gustav >> >>>>> fuller.artful at gmail.com 08-02-2008 12:10 >>> >> It's Friday so I guess I can resurrect the old joke about the agnostic >> dyslexic insomniac who stayed up all night wondering if there really was >> a >> dog. >> >> A. >> >> On Fri, Feb 8, 2008 at 6:04 AM, Max Wanadoo >> wrote: >> >>> Did he mis-type DOG? >>> Max >> >> >> >> -- >> AccessD mailing list >> AccessD at databaseadvisors.com >> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd >> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com >> >> >> ___________________________________________________________ >> Yahoo! Answers - Got a question? Someone out there knows the answer. Try >> it >> now. >> http://uk.answers.yahoo.com/ >> >> -- >> AccessD mailing list >> AccessD at databaseadvisors.com >> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd >> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com >> >> >> -- >> No virus found in this incoming message. >> Checked by AVG Free Edition. >> Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.19.21/1265 - Release Date: >> 07.02.2008 11:17 >> >> > > -- > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > > ___________________________________________________________ > Support the World Aids Awareness campaign this month with Yahoo! For Good > http://uk.promotions.yahoo.com/forgood/ > > -- > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.19.21/1265 - Release Date: > 07.02.2008 11:17 > > From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com Fri Feb 8 11:07:03 2008 From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (jwcolby) Date: Fri, 8 Feb 2008 12:07:03 -0500 Subject: [AccessD] Open Query Within Form In-Reply-To: <002601c86a71$52f3d7a0$1800a8c0@s1800> References: <633957.72067.qm@web50102.mail.re2.yahoo.com> <002601c86a71$52f3d7a0$1800a8c0@s1800> Message-ID: <00f501c86a75$06e49260$0401a8c0@M90> Yea, it's not my clients I'm worried about. ;-) John W. Colby Colby Consulting www.ColbyConsulting.com -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Lembit Soobik Sent: Friday, February 08, 2008 11:41 AM To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving Subject: Re: [AccessD] Open Query Within Form aah, from fat client to thin client... I'm trying to also lose a few pounds right now :) Lembit ----- Original Message ----- From: "Roz Clarke" To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving" Sent: Friday, February 08, 2008 3:14 PM Subject: Re: [AccessD] Open Query Within Form > Hi Lembit! > > I'm supposed to be starting a contract next week to migrate a stack of > applications, including Access DBs, from an Office 2000 fat client network > to an office 2003 thin client environment. Could be fun as the databases > are A97, hehe. So not real development yet, but I still expect to have a > few questions for you experts... > > ----- Original Message ---- > From: Lembit Soobik > To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving > > Sent: Friday, 8 February, 2008 1:58:54 PM > Subject: Re: [AccessD] Open Query Within Form > > Wow, Roz, > you back to Access Development? > > Lembit > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Roz Clarke" > To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving" > > Sent: Friday, February 08, 2008 12:36 PM > Subject: Re: [AccessD] Open Query Within Form > > >> Things have obviously gotten lax around here while I was away... >> >> ;) >> >> Roz >> >> ----- Original Message ---- >> From: Gustav Brock >> To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com >> Sent: Friday, 8 February, 2008 11:23:48 AM >> Subject: Re: [AccessD] Open Query Within Form >> >> Hi Arthur >> >> And how would he know? A barf from "above"? >> >> /gustav >> >>>>> fuller.artful at gmail.com 08-02-2008 12:10 >>> >> It's Friday so I guess I can resurrect the old joke about the agnostic >> dyslexic insomniac who stayed up all night wondering if there really was >> a >> dog. >> >> A. >> >> On Fri, Feb 8, 2008 at 6:04 AM, Max Wanadoo >> wrote: >> >>> Did he mis-type DOG? >>> Max >> >> >> >> -- >> AccessD mailing list >> AccessD at databaseadvisors.com >> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd >> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com >> >> >> ___________________________________________________________ >> Yahoo! Answers - Got a question? Someone out there knows the answer. Try >> it >> now. >> http://uk.answers.yahoo.com/ >> >> -- >> AccessD mailing list >> AccessD at databaseadvisors.com >> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd >> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com >> >> >> -- >> No virus found in this incoming message. >> Checked by AVG Free Edition. >> Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.19.21/1265 - Release Date: >> 07.02.2008 11:17 >> >> > > -- > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > > ___________________________________________________________ > Support the World Aids Awareness campaign this month with Yahoo! For Good > http://uk.promotions.yahoo.com/forgood/ > > -- > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.19.21/1265 - Release Date: > 07.02.2008 11:17 > > -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From fuller.artful at gmail.com Fri Feb 8 11:07:24 2008 From: fuller.artful at gmail.com (Arthur Fuller) Date: Fri, 8 Feb 2008 12:07:24 -0500 Subject: [AccessD] Friday OT Message-ID: <29f585dd0802080907k60709d8cl5b409e97a70a0c99@mail.gmail.com> Ran into an old buddy. So stupid he thinks Hitchcock is an STD. A. From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com Fri Feb 8 20:05:20 2008 From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (jwcolby) Date: Fri, 8 Feb 2008 21:05:20 -0500 Subject: [AccessD] Rar vs winzip Message-ID: <010901c86ac0$39accc30$0401a8c0@M90> I am zipping up some of my big databases in order to get a backup without the size. I have always used Winzip but also have RAR installed so I decided to try both. I have a quad core on the SQL Server, and it turns out that Winzip uses a bit of each core but mostly one. RAR OTOH seems to use LOTS of all 4 cores, and compresses about 4 times faster than Winzip, I assume as a result of more efficient usage of the additional processing power in the additional cores. OTOH you can winzip and do other things. RAR tends to suck about 80% of all 4 cores so it is pretty slow doing anything else. But if you need to zip something up as quickly as possible then RAR seems to be the one to use. John W. Colby Colby Consulting www.ColbyConsulting.com From jimdettman at verizon.net Sat Feb 9 07:17:16 2008 From: jimdettman at verizon.net (Jim Dettman) Date: Sat, 09 Feb 2008 08:17:16 -0500 Subject: [AccessD] Rar vs winzip In-Reply-To: <010901c86ac0$39accc30$0401a8c0@M90> References: <010901c86ac0$39accc30$0401a8c0@M90> Message-ID: <02d901c86b1e$18438c10$8abea8c0@XPS> John, Doesn't this really belong on the tech list? Or at the very least tag it as OT. Jim. -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of jwcolby Sent: Friday, February 08, 2008 9:05 PM To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'; 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues' Subject: [AccessD] Rar vs winzip I am zipping up some of my big databases in order to get a backup without the size. I have always used Winzip but also have RAR installed so I decided to try both. I have a quad core on the SQL Server, and it turns out that Winzip uses a bit of each core but mostly one. RAR OTOH seems to use LOTS of all 4 cores, and compresses about 4 times faster than Winzip, I assume as a result of more efficient usage of the additional processing power in the additional cores. OTOH you can winzip and do other things. RAR tends to suck about 80% of all 4 cores so it is pretty slow doing anything else. But if you need to zip something up as quickly as possible then RAR seems to be the one to use. John W. Colby Colby Consulting www.ColbyConsulting.com -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From accessd at shaw.ca Sat Feb 9 20:35:47 2008 From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence) Date: Sat, 09 Feb 2008 18:35:47 -0800 Subject: [AccessD] Open Query Within Form In-Reply-To: <633957.72067.qm@web50102.mail.re2.yahoo.com> References: <633957.72067.qm@web50102.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <038DCA6C9C254EA5A6D2395DFD9E4AEF@creativesystemdesigns.com> Hi Roz.... you are back! :-) Once a programmer always a programmer. Have not seen you at an AA (Access Anonymous) meeting for how long now? Jim -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Roz Clarke Sent: Friday, February 08, 2008 6:15 AM To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving Subject: Re: [AccessD] Open Query Within Form Hi Lembit! I'm supposed to be starting a contract next week to migrate a stack of applications, including Access DBs, from an Office 2000 fat client network to an office 2003 thin client environment. Could be fun as the databases are A97, hehe. So not real development yet, but I still expect to have a few questions for you experts... ----- Original Message ---- From: Lembit Soobik To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving Sent: Friday, 8 February, 2008 1:58:54 PM Subject: Re: [AccessD] Open Query Within Form Wow, Roz, you back to Access Development? Lembit ----- Original Message ----- From: "Roz Clarke" To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving" Sent: Friday, February 08, 2008 12:36 PM Subject: Re: [AccessD] Open Query Within Form > Things have obviously gotten lax around here while I was away... > > ;) > > Roz > > ----- Original Message ---- > From: Gustav Brock > To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com > Sent: Friday, 8 February, 2008 11:23:48 AM > Subject: Re: [AccessD] Open Query Within Form > > Hi Arthur > > And how would he know? 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For Good http://uk.promotions.yahoo.com/forgood/ -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From accessd at shaw.ca Sat Feb 9 20:49:57 2008 From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence) Date: Sat, 09 Feb 2008 18:49:57 -0800 Subject: [AccessD] OT: MS SQL question In-Reply-To: <144247.82406.qm@web50109.mail.re2.yahoo.com> References: <144247.82406.qm@web50109.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Sorry for the OT but I am having a bad MS SQL day and responses have been slow on the other list. I have always designed my MS SQL with Windows Authentication and when Anonymous access was required it was through IIS... for the last 10 years. Now there is a new challenge. Connect MS SQL 2005 through MS SQL or 'sa' mode and the server is proving a worthy opponent. The server is set to support both connection modes but I am not sure whether these setting can be set/unset at the database level. I have created a user and the system seems happy but when testing the connection through ODBC it responds with something like: Connection failed: SQLState: '42000' SQL Server Error: 4064 [Microsoft][ODBC SQL Server Driver][SQL Server]Cannot open user default database. Login failed. I am sure the issues is something very simple but after 2 days no joy. Any insights? TIA Jim From fuller.artful at gmail.com Sun Feb 10 09:08:11 2008 From: fuller.artful at gmail.com (Arthur Fuller) Date: Sun, 10 Feb 2008 10:08:11 -0500 Subject: [AccessD] OT: MS SQL question In-Reply-To: References: <144247.82406.qm@web50109.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <29f585dd0802100708s3f5ce8e0weefd17805fc6c55a@mail.gmail.com> Jim, This (cribbed from my site artfulsoftware.com) may be of use: Change authentication mode Change the Authentication mode on existing MSDE Servers to 'mixed' (Windows Authentication and SQL Server) by modifying this registry key: HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Microsoft SQL Server\MSSQL.x\MSSQLServer If you are using SQL Server 2005, the above registry key stores the authentication mode regardless of whether you installed a default instance or a named instance. MSSQL.x is a placeholder for the corresponding value for your system. Set the value LoginMode to 2. This tells your server to accept SQL Server AND Windows authentication methods. Stop and restart the MSSQL service after making this change: NET STOP MSSQLSERVER NET START MSSQLSERVER To accomplish the same for every server instance using the Windows GUI, log in via Windows Authentication. If you can't log on via Windows Auth then revise User Account privileges in Control Panel | User Accounts. Check to see if you have Administrator Access on machine. If not, set it and continue below. 1. Right click 'your server', choose 'properties'. Go to 'Security' and select 'Mixed Mode'. Close SQL EMT. 2. In Start | Control Panel | Admin Tools | Services panel, scroll down to view your SQL services and then one-at-a-time right click each and select properties. 3. Click the 'Log On' tab and select 'Local System account' and 'Allow service to interact..' check box (nothing else), then click 'OK'. 4. You should be back at the main Sevices panel. Using the cassette player icons at the top of panel, simply stop, then start each SQL service (there's a stop start button does both auto). 5. After restarting each, close window and try logging in using SQL Auth. For the real beginners: username: sa pwd: leave blank. hth, Arthur On Sat, Feb 9, 2008 at 9:49 PM, Jim Lawrence wrote: > Sorry for the OT but I am having a bad MS SQL day and responses have been > slow on the other list. > > I have always designed my MS SQL with Windows Authentication and when > Anonymous access was required it was through IIS... for the last 10 years. > > Now there is a new challenge. Connect MS SQL 2005 through MS SQL or 'sa' > mode and the server is proving a worthy opponent. > > The server is set to support both connection modes but I am not sure > whether > these setting can be set/unset at the database level. I have created a > user > and the system seems happy but when testing the connection through ODBC it > responds with something like: > > Connection failed: > SQLState: '42000' > SQL Server Error: 4064 > [Microsoft][ODBC SQL Server Driver][SQL Server]Cannot open user default > database. Login failed. > > I am sure the issues is something very simple but after 2 days no joy. > > Any insights? > > TIA > Jim > > -- > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > From bheid at sc.rr.com Sun Feb 10 16:11:13 2008 From: bheid at sc.rr.com (Bobby Heid) Date: Sun, 10 Feb 2008 17:11:13 -0500 Subject: [AccessD] Rar vs winzip In-Reply-To: <02d901c86b1e$18438c10$8abea8c0@XPS> References: <010901c86ac0$39accc30$0401a8c0@M90> <02d901c86b1e$18438c10$8abea8c0@XPS> Message-ID: <001801c86c31$d9ae8670$8d0b9350$@rr.com> I don't think this is really too off topic as I do not know anyone who uses Access does not have to zip up a database every now and then. Bobby -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim Dettman Sent: Saturday, February 09, 2008 8:17 AM To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'; 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues' Subject: Re: [AccessD] Rar vs winzip John, Doesn't this really belong on the tech list? Or at the very least tag it as OT. Jim. -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of jwcolby Sent: Friday, February 08, 2008 9:05 PM To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'; 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues' Subject: [AccessD] Rar vs winzip I am zipping up some of my big databases in order to get a backup without the size. I have always used Winzip but also have RAR installed so I decided to try both. I have a quad core on the SQL Server, and it turns out that Winzip uses a bit of each core but mostly one. RAR OTOH seems to use LOTS of all 4 cores, and compresses about 4 times faster than Winzip, I assume as a result of more efficient usage of the additional processing power in the additional cores. OTOH you can winzip and do other things. RAR tends to suck about 80% of all 4 cores so it is pretty slow doing anything else. But if you need to zip something up as quickly as possible then RAR seems to be the one to use. John W. Colby Colby Consulting www.ColbyConsulting.com -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From jimdettman at verizon.net Sun Feb 10 16:41:22 2008 From: jimdettman at verizon.net (Jim Dettman) Date: Sun, 10 Feb 2008 17:41:22 -0500 Subject: [AccessD] OT RE: Rar vs winzip In-Reply-To: <001801c86c31$d9ae8670$8d0b9350$@rr.com> References: <010901c86ac0$39accc30$0401a8c0@M90> <02d901c86b1e$18438c10$8abea8c0@XPS> <001801c86c31$d9ae8670$8d0b9350$@rr.com> Message-ID: <004801c86c36$10c66390$8abea8c0@XPS> Bobby, The focus though wasn't in working with databases per say, but how WinZip and RAR works with a quad core processor. The file type really is a moot point. Jim, -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Bobby Heid Sent: Sunday, February 10, 2008 5:11 PM To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' Subject: Re: [AccessD] Rar vs winzip I don't think this is really too off topic as I do not know anyone who uses Access does not have to zip up a database every now and then. Bobby -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim Dettman Sent: Saturday, February 09, 2008 8:17 AM To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'; 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues' Subject: Re: [AccessD] Rar vs winzip John, Doesn't this really belong on the tech list? Or at the very least tag it as OT. Jim. -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of jwcolby Sent: Friday, February 08, 2008 9:05 PM To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'; 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues' Subject: [AccessD] Rar vs winzip I am zipping up some of my big databases in order to get a backup without the size. I have always used Winzip but also have RAR installed so I decided to try both. I have a quad core on the SQL Server, and it turns out that Winzip uses a bit of each core but mostly one. RAR OTOH seems to use LOTS of all 4 cores, and compresses about 4 times faster than Winzip, I assume as a result of more efficient usage of the additional processing power in the additional cores. OTOH you can winzip and do other things. RAR tends to suck about 80% of all 4 cores so it is pretty slow doing anything else. But if you need to zip something up as quickly as possible then RAR seems to be the one to use. John W. Colby Colby Consulting www.ColbyConsulting.com -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From robert at webedb.com Sun Feb 10 19:12:20 2008 From: robert at webedb.com (Robert L. Stewart) Date: Sun, 10 Feb 2008 19:12:20 -0600 Subject: [AccessD] MS SQL question In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <200802110113.m1B1DmBo006874@databaseadvisors.com> Jim, It sounds simple. Set the default database for the user to the one you are wanting them to use. Robert At 12:00 PM 2/10/2008, you wrote: >Date: Sat, 09 Feb 2008 18:49:57 -0800 >From: Jim Lawrence >Subject: [AccessD] OT: MS SQL question >To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'" > >Message-ID: > >Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > >Sorry for the OT but I am having a bad MS SQL day and responses have been >slow on the other list. > >I have always designed my MS SQL with Windows Authentication and when >Anonymous access was required it was through IIS... for the last 10 years. > >Now there is a new challenge. Connect MS SQL 2005 through MS SQL or 'sa' >mode and the server is proving a worthy opponent. > >The server is set to support both connection modes but I am not sure whether >these setting can be set/unset at the database level. I have created a user >and the system seems happy but when testing the connection through ODBC it >responds with something like: > >Connection failed: >SQLState: '42000' >SQL Server Error: 4064 >[Microsoft][ODBC SQL Server Driver][SQL Server]Cannot open user default >database. Login failed. > >I am sure the issues is something very simple but after 2 days no joy. > >Any insights? > >TIA >Jim From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com Sun Feb 10 21:54:12 2008 From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (jwcolby) Date: Sun, 10 Feb 2008 22:54:12 -0500 Subject: [AccessD] OT RE: Rar vs winzip In-Reply-To: <004801c86c36$10c66390$8abea8c0@XPS> References: <010901c86ac0$39accc30$0401a8c0@M90><02d901c86b1e$18438c10$8abea8c0@XPS><001801c86c31$d9ae8670$8d0b9350$@rr.com> <004801c86c36$10c66390$8abea8c0@XPS> Message-ID: <001d01c86c61$c3df54c0$0401a8c0@M90> Jim, Actually the focus wasn't how it uses a quad core specifically but rather that RAR seems to make better use of multi-core (multi-thread) in general, how that effects the speed of getting a file zipped up, and how that effects processor usage. Since I work from a home office, I have used Winzip a LOT to ship Access files back and forth from my clients. Often times the time to zip up the files gets excessive, I have a client with total data BEs approaching a gig. I just thought it might be useful information to those of us who face this problem. I will certainly be using RAR from this point on when I need to get a big file zipped in a hurry. OTOH it pretty much consumes the processor so I will NOT use it if I need to be working on other things simultaneously. I just found it an interesting comparison between the two products and how they effect what I do. In fact I happened (at the time) to be zipping huge SQL Server databases for archiving, but as you pointed out, the file type is indeed irrelevant. John W. Colby Colby Consulting www.ColbyConsulting.com -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim Dettman Sent: Sunday, February 10, 2008 5:41 PM To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' Subject: [AccessD] OT RE: Rar vs winzip Bobby, The focus though wasn't in working with databases per say, but how WinZip and RAR works with a quad core processor. The file type really is a moot point. Jim, -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Bobby Heid Sent: Sunday, February 10, 2008 5:11 PM To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' Subject: Re: [AccessD] Rar vs winzip I don't think this is really too off topic as I do not know anyone who uses Access does not have to zip up a database every now and then. Bobby -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim Dettman Sent: Saturday, February 09, 2008 8:17 AM To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'; 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues' Subject: Re: [AccessD] Rar vs winzip John, Doesn't this really belong on the tech list? Or at the very least tag it as OT. Jim. -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of jwcolby Sent: Friday, February 08, 2008 9:05 PM To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'; 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues' Subject: [AccessD] Rar vs winzip I am zipping up some of my big databases in order to get a backup without the size. I have always used Winzip but also have RAR installed so I decided to try both. I have a quad core on the SQL Server, and it turns out that Winzip uses a bit of each core but mostly one. RAR OTOH seems to use LOTS of all 4 cores, and compresses about 4 times faster than Winzip, I assume as a result of more efficient usage of the additional processing power in the additional cores. OTOH you can winzip and do other things. RAR tends to suck about 80% of all 4 cores so it is pretty slow doing anything else. But if you need to zip something up as quickly as possible then RAR seems to be the one to use. John W. Colby Colby Consulting www.ColbyConsulting.com From jedi at charm.net Mon Feb 11 11:33:39 2008 From: jedi at charm.net (Michael Bahr) Date: Mon, 11 Feb 2008 12:33:39 -0500 (EST) Subject: [AccessD] OT RE: Rar vs winzip In-Reply-To: <001d01c86c61$c3df54c0$0401a8c0@M90> References: <010901c86ac0$39accc30$0401a8c0@M90><02d901c86b1e$18438c10$8abea8c0@XPS><001801c86c31$d9ae8670$8d0b9350$@rr.com> <004801c86c36$10c66390$8abea8c0@XPS> <001d01c86c61$c3df54c0$0401a8c0@M90> Message-ID: <2408.198.118.94.95.1202751219.squirrel@mail.expedient.net> John, RAR is not as popular as is WinZip. You would forcing others to purchase RAR to uncompress your files. That could be annoying. Also, one of the many reasons for the multi-core processors is so that you can do multiple things at one time stretched across the processors which is suppose to make you more productive; this is different from single core processors. But if an application consumes all processors then I would have to think that is a flaw unless there is specifically an option to use one or more processors. If you are concerned about the zipping time then schedule it for lunch/dinner or ... Mike... > Jim, > > Actually the focus wasn't how it uses a quad core specifically but rather > that RAR seems to make better use of multi-core (multi-thread) in general, > how that effects the speed of getting a file zipped up, and how that > effects > processor usage. Since I work from a home office, I have used Winzip a > LOT > to ship Access files back and forth from my clients. Often times the time > to zip up the files gets excessive, I have a client with total data BEs > approaching a gig. I just thought it might be useful information to those > of us who face this problem. I will certainly be using RAR from this > point > on when I need to get a big file zipped in a hurry. OTOH it pretty much > consumes the processor so I will NOT use it if I need to be working on > other > things simultaneously. > > I just found it an interesting comparison between the two products and how > they effect what I do. In fact I happened (at the time) to be zipping > huge > SQL Server databases for archiving, but as you pointed out, the file type > is > indeed irrelevant. > > John W. Colby > Colby Consulting > www.ColbyConsulting.com > -----Original Message----- > From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim Dettman > Sent: Sunday, February 10, 2008 5:41 PM > To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' > Subject: [AccessD] OT RE: Rar vs winzip > > Bobby, > > The focus though wasn't in working with databases per say, but how > WinZip > and RAR works with a quad core processor. The file type really is a moot > point. > > Jim, > > -----Original Message----- > From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Bobby Heid > Sent: Sunday, February 10, 2008 5:11 PM > To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' > Subject: Re: [AccessD] Rar vs winzip > > I don't think this is really too off topic as I do not know anyone who > uses > Access does not have to zip up a database every now and then. > > Bobby > > -----Original Message----- > From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim Dettman > Sent: Saturday, February 09, 2008 8:17 AM > To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'; 'Discussion of > Hardware and Software issues' > Subject: Re: [AccessD] Rar vs winzip > > John, > > Doesn't this really belong on the tech list? Or at the very least tag > it > as OT. > > Jim. > > -----Original Message----- > From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of jwcolby > Sent: Friday, February 08, 2008 9:05 PM > To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'; 'Discussion of > Hardware and Software issues' > Subject: [AccessD] Rar vs winzip > > I am zipping up some of my big databases in order to get a backup without > the size. I have always used Winzip but also have RAR installed so I > decided to try both. I have a quad core on the SQL Server, and it turns > out > that Winzip uses a bit of each core but mostly one. RAR OTOH seems to use > LOTS of all 4 cores, and compresses about 4 times faster than Winzip, I > assume as a result of more efficient usage of the additional processing > power in the additional cores. > > OTOH you can winzip and do other things. RAR tends to suck about 80% of > all > 4 cores so it is pretty slow doing anything else. But if you need to zip > something up as quickly as possible then RAR seems to be the one to use. > > John W. Colby > Colby Consulting > www.ColbyConsulting.com > > -- > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com Mon Feb 11 11:55:07 2008 From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (jwcolby) Date: Mon, 11 Feb 2008 12:55:07 -0500 Subject: [AccessD] OT RE: Rar vs winzip In-Reply-To: <2408.198.118.94.95.1202751219.squirrel@mail.expedient.net> References: <010901c86ac0$39accc30$0401a8c0@M90><02d901c86b1e$18438c10$8abea8c0@XPS><001801c86c31$d9ae8670$8d0b9350$@rr.com><004801c86c36$10c66390$8abea8c0@XPS><001d01c86c61$c3df54c0$0401a8c0@M90> <2408.198.118.94.95.1202751219.squirrel@mail.expedient.net> Message-ID: <005801c86cd7$3d5a0fa0$0401a8c0@M90> Mike, LOL, I know all of that. I was just posting an "interesting (and maybe valuable) to know" kind of email. I wasn't expecting anything like the response I received. Let me tell you something. I zipped a hundred gig file. It took RAR about 28 HOURS to zip it. It takes Winzip about FOUR times as long to do the same. I scheduled it to RAR over the weekend, not over lunch! ;-) I was just pointing out that is useful to know your options. I would NEVER schedule a RAR during a time that I had to use the computer. OTOH I would schedule a Winzip when I had to use the computer. I would NEVER try to Winzip a 100g file. It would just take so many days that it would be silly to even contemplate. I have 400 gigs of data I want to zip up (or RAR up). Using Winzip is a non starter. It would be next Christmas before it got done. BUT... I also have to be careful to not do the RAR while I need the computer. Again, it is just useful to know what choices I have and how they effect how I work. In this day and age, I would expect such utilities to allow me to designate a % of total CPU power to apply to the task. Neither one does TTBOMK, though I haven't gone looking either. John W. Colby Colby Consulting www.ColbyConsulting.com -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Michael Bahr Sent: Monday, February 11, 2008 12:34 PM To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving Subject: Re: [AccessD] OT RE: Rar vs winzip John, RAR is not as popular as is WinZip. You would forcing others to purchase RAR to uncompress your files. That could be annoying. Also, one of the many reasons for the multi-core processors is so that you can do multiple things at one time stretched across the processors which is suppose to make you more productive; this is different from single core processors. But if an application consumes all processors then I would have to think that is a flaw unless there is specifically an option to use one or more processors. If you are concerned about the zipping time then schedule it for lunch/dinner or ... Mike... > Jim, > > Actually the focus wasn't how it uses a quad core specifically but > rather that RAR seems to make better use of multi-core (multi-thread) > in general, how that effects the speed of getting a file zipped up, > and how that effects processor usage. Since I work from a home > office, I have used Winzip a LOT to ship Access files back and forth > from my clients. Often times the time to zip up the files gets > excessive, I have a client with total data BEs approaching a gig. I > just thought it might be useful information to those of us who face > this problem. I will certainly be using RAR from this point on when I > need to get a big file zipped in a hurry. OTOH it pretty much > consumes the processor so I will NOT use it if I need to be working on > other things simultaneously. > > I just found it an interesting comparison between the two products and > how they effect what I do. In fact I happened (at the time) to be > zipping huge SQL Server databases for archiving, but as you pointed > out, the file type is indeed irrelevant. > > John W. Colby > Colby Consulting > www.ColbyConsulting.com > -----Original Message----- > From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim Dettman > Sent: Sunday, February 10, 2008 5:41 PM > To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' > Subject: [AccessD] OT RE: Rar vs winzip > > Bobby, > > The focus though wasn't in working with databases per say, but how > WinZip and RAR works with a quad core processor. The file type really > is a moot point. > > Jim, From rockysmolin at bchacc.com Mon Feb 11 12:08:02 2008 From: rockysmolin at bchacc.com (Rocky Smolin at Beach Access Software) Date: Mon, 11 Feb 2008 10:08:02 -0800 Subject: [AccessD] OT RE: Rar vs winzip In-Reply-To: <005801c86cd7$3d5a0fa0$0401a8c0@M90> References: <010901c86ac0$39accc30$0401a8c0@M90><02d901c86b1e$18438c10$8abea8c0@XPS><001801c86c31$d9ae8670$8d0b9350$@rr.com><004801c86c36$10c66390$8abea8c0@XPS><001d01c86c61$c3df54c0$0401a8c0@M90><2408.198.118.94.95.1202751219.squirrel@mail.expedient.net> <005801c86cd7$3d5a0fa0$0401a8c0@M90> Message-ID: <006d01c86cd9$0b3b0720$0301a8c0@HAL9005> JC: Curious, what was the compression ratio with RAR on the 100 gig file? Rocky -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of jwcolby Sent: Monday, February 11, 2008 9:55 AM To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' Subject: Re: [AccessD] OT RE: Rar vs winzip Mike, LOL, I know all of that. I was just posting an "interesting (and maybe valuable) to know" kind of email. I wasn't expecting anything like the response I received. Let me tell you something. I zipped a hundred gig file. It took RAR about 28 HOURS to zip it. It takes Winzip about FOUR times as long to do the same. I scheduled it to RAR over the weekend, not over lunch! ;-) I was just pointing out that is useful to know your options. I would NEVER schedule a RAR during a time that I had to use the computer. OTOH I would schedule a Winzip when I had to use the computer. I would NEVER try to Winzip a 100g file. It would just take so many days that it would be silly to even contemplate. I have 400 gigs of data I want to zip up (or RAR up). Using Winzip is a non starter. It would be next Christmas before it got done. BUT... I also have to be careful to not do the RAR while I need the computer. Again, it is just useful to know what choices I have and how they effect how I work. In this day and age, I would expect such utilities to allow me to designate a % of total CPU power to apply to the task. Neither one does TTBOMK, though I haven't gone looking either. John W. Colby Colby Consulting www.ColbyConsulting.com -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Michael Bahr Sent: Monday, February 11, 2008 12:34 PM To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving Subject: Re: [AccessD] OT RE: Rar vs winzip John, RAR is not as popular as is WinZip. You would forcing others to purchase RAR to uncompress your files. That could be annoying. Also, one of the many reasons for the multi-core processors is so that you can do multiple things at one time stretched across the processors which is suppose to make you more productive; this is different from single core processors. But if an application consumes all processors then I would have to think that is a flaw unless there is specifically an option to use one or more processors. If you are concerned about the zipping time then schedule it for lunch/dinner or ... Mike... > Jim, > > Actually the focus wasn't how it uses a quad core specifically but > rather that RAR seems to make better use of multi-core (multi-thread) > in general, how that effects the speed of getting a file zipped up, > and how that effects processor usage. Since I work from a home > office, I have used Winzip a LOT to ship Access files back and forth > from my clients. Often times the time to zip up the files gets > excessive, I have a client with total data BEs approaching a gig. I > just thought it might be useful information to those of us who face > this problem. I will certainly be using RAR from this point on when I > need to get a big file zipped in a hurry. OTOH it pretty much > consumes the processor so I will NOT use it if I need to be working on > other things simultaneously. > > I just found it an interesting comparison between the two products and > how they effect what I do. In fact I happened (at the time) to be > zipping huge SQL Server databases for archiving, but as you pointed > out, the file type is indeed irrelevant. > > John W. Colby > Colby Consulting > www.ColbyConsulting.com > -----Original Message----- > From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim Dettman > Sent: Sunday, February 10, 2008 5:41 PM > To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' > Subject: [AccessD] OT RE: Rar vs winzip > > Bobby, > > The focus though wasn't in working with databases per say, but how > WinZip and RAR works with a quad core processor. The file type really > is a moot point. > > Jim, -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.20.2/1270 - Release Date: 2/10/2008 12:21 PM From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com Mon Feb 11 12:31:01 2008 From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (jwcolby) Date: Mon, 11 Feb 2008 13:31:01 -0500 Subject: [AccessD] OT RE: Rar vs winzip In-Reply-To: <006d01c86cd9$0b3b0720$0301a8c0@HAL9005> References: <010901c86ac0$39accc30$0401a8c0@M90><02d901c86b1e$18438c10$8abea8c0@XPS><001801c86c31$d9ae8670$8d0b9350$@rr.com><004801c86c36$10c66390$8abea8c0@XPS><001d01c86c61$c3df54c0$0401a8c0@M90><2408.198.118.94.95.1202751219.squirrel@mail.expedient.net><005801c86cd7$3d5a0fa0$0401a8c0@M90> <006d01c86cd9$0b3b0720$0301a8c0@HAL9005> Message-ID: <005f01c86cdc$40fe4630$0401a8c0@M90> About 8:1. These were SQL Server database files and they do compress pretty well. Not particularly fast however. I have a bunch of SQL Server database files that I will likely never need again. Some big ones were the SOURCE databases that I further refined and now just sit there. I don't want to just delete them, but I also don't want to take up a hundred gigs of any kind of storage holding them. I want them OFF of my main system in case anything goes wrong. To turn the 100 gig file into a 12 gig file suddenly makes it easily archivable. Not easy to get back but that is the point exactly, I don't really expect to ever need to. OTOH I have a bunch of little database files that I store the orders in. These files average a few megs up to a couple of hundred megs. These I can zip using WinZip but still get a useful shrink, and they don't take THAT long to zip / unzip. I can then store them NearLine, on a different system but easily available if the client ever asks a question about them. I have my active HUGE databases which I need to store NearLine without zipping at all. If I ever need them back I will want them ASAP. Even doing a straight copy from disk to disk within the same system takes hours when it is a 100 gig file. As you can see I need to use a variety of tools to handle all of this. John W. Colby Colby Consulting www.ColbyConsulting.com -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Rocky Smolin at Beach Access Software Sent: Monday, February 11, 2008 1:08 PM To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' Subject: Re: [AccessD] OT RE: Rar vs winzip JC: Curious, what was the compression ratio with RAR on the 100 gig file? Rocky From Patricia.O'Connor at otda.state.ny.us Mon Feb 11 13:52:02 2008 From: Patricia.O'Connor at otda.state.ny.us (O'Connor, Patricia (OTDA)) Date: Mon, 11 Feb 2008 14:52:02 -0500 Subject: [AccessD] OT: FoxPro corrupt DBF In-Reply-To: References: <005e01c853ba$d36fc880$657aa8c0@M90><000501c853c0$57952ec0$8119fea9@LTVM><01DBAB52E30A9A4AB3D94EF8029EDBE8021BB207@EXCNYSM0A1AI.nysemail.nyenet><005601c862b4$f3781e30$8abea8c0@XPS><01DBAB52E30A9A4AB3D94EF8029EDBE8021BB247@EXCNYSM0A1AI.nysemail Message-ID: <01DBAB52E30A9A4AB3D94EF8029EDBE8021BB254@EXCNYSM0A1AI.nysemail.nyenet> Thanks That looks interesting - will delve into this a bit more We were very luck to be able to get a backup file and use that. Were just on the boarder of the backup keep deadline. So we are definitely backing up everything again Thanks ************************************************** * Patricia O'Connor * Associate Computer Programmer Analyst * OTDA - BDMA * (W) mailto:Patricia.O'Connor at otda.state.ny.us * (w) mailto:aa1160 at nysemail.state.ny.us ************************************************** > -------------------------------------------------------- This e-mail, including any attachments, may be confidential, privileged or otherwise legally protected. It is intended only for the addressee. If you received this e-mail in error or from someone who was not authorized to send it to you, do not disseminate, copy or otherwise use this e-mail or its attachments. Please notify the sender immediately by reply e-mail and delete the e-mail from your system. -----Original Message----- > From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Tesiny, Ed > Sent: Friday, February 08, 2008 09:57 AM > To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving > Subject: Re: [AccessD] OT: FoxPro corrupt DBF > > Might want to give this a try > http://3d2f.com/programs/20-171-advanced-dbf-repair-download.shtml > > Ed Tesiny > EdTesiny at oasas.state.ny.us > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > > [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of > O'Connor, > > Patricia (OTDA) > > Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2008 5:05 PM > > To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving > > Cc: poc231st at hotmail.com > > Subject: [AccessD] OT: FoxPro corrupt DBF > > > > in Access there is compact and repair > > how do you fix a foxpro dbf that comes up saying it is > corrupt and I > > can't even view it. > > > > we are trying to run a monthly update for the 1st time > since the owner > > left so this is a bit of a problem > > > > Thanks > > > > ************************************************** > > * Patricia O'Connor > > * Associate Computer Programmer Analyst > > * OTDA - BDMA > > * (W) mailto:Patricia.O'Connor at otda.state.ny.us > > * (w) mailto:aa1160 at nysemail.state.ny.us > > ************************************************** > > > > From Jim.Hale at FleetPride.com Mon Feb 11 16:04:51 2008 From: Jim.Hale at FleetPride.com (Hale, Jim) Date: Mon, 11 Feb 2008 16:04:51 -0600 Subject: [AccessD] Automation of word In-Reply-To: <00af01c867fa$89035100$0401a8c0@M90> References: <005601c8673d$054b3520$0401a8c0@M90><001a01c86743$06babbf0$0301a 8c0@HAL9005><008001c86749$2c17a600$0401a8c0@M90><001b01c867e3$2663c910$8119 fea9@LTVM> <00af01c867fa$89035100$0401a8c0@M90> Message-ID: Check out page 483 of the ADH. 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From jedi at charm.net Mon Feb 11 17:24:36 2008 From: jedi at charm.net (Michael Bahr) Date: Mon, 11 Feb 2008 18:24:36 -0500 (EST) Subject: [AccessD] OT RE: Rar vs winzip In-Reply-To: <005801c86cd7$3d5a0fa0$0401a8c0@M90> References: <010901c86ac0$39accc30$0401a8c0@M90><02d901c86b1e$18438c10$8abea8c0@XPS><001801c86c31$d9ae8670$8d0b9350$@rr.com><004801c86c36$10c66390$8abea8c0@XPS><001d01c86c61$c3df54c0$0401a8c0@M90> <2408.198.118.94.95.1202751219.squirrel@mail.expedient.net> <005801c86cd7$3d5a0fa0$0401a8c0@M90> Message-ID: <1061.24.35.45.228.1202772276.squirrel@mail.expedient.net> Hi John, so are you saying it takes Winzip over 4 DAYS?? Well I think I know what your problem is.........swap file. I ran across this about 5 years ago. I had a 1.5 GB zip file of plain text. Of course being text it compressed very well. Although I still had ~4 GB free space WinZip wants to unzip into the temp folder and then move it to your desired folder. That meant at least 2 times the uncompressed size. So I bet that is your problem, lack of swap/page file space. That means a tremendous amount of disk swapping is occuring. As a test take a 160-250 empty (formatted) HD and make that your swap file. Tell Windows to remove your current virtual memory and move it to the HD and specify the full size. Windows might complain but who cares, right? Right click on My Comuter | Advanced | Performance Settings | Advanced Tab | Virtual memory Change. Your overall performace should also increase. Mike... > Mike, > > LOL, I know all of that. I was just posting an "interesting (and maybe > valuable) to know" kind of email. I wasn't expecting anything like the > response I received. > > Let me tell you something. I zipped a hundred gig file. It took RAR > about > 28 HOURS to zip it. It takes Winzip about FOUR times as long to do the > same. I scheduled it to RAR over the weekend, not over lunch! ;-) > > I was just pointing out that is useful to know your options. I would > NEVER > schedule a RAR during a time that I had to use the computer. OTOH I would > schedule a Winzip when I had to use the computer. I would NEVER try to > Winzip a 100g file. It would just take so many days that it would be > silly > to even contemplate. I have 400 gigs of data I want to zip up (or RAR > up). > Using Winzip is a non starter. It would be next Christmas before it got > done. BUT... I also have to be careful to not do the RAR while I need the > computer. > > Again, it is just useful to know what choices I have and how they effect > how > I work. > > In this day and age, I would expect such utilities to allow me to > designate > a % of total CPU power to apply to the task. Neither one does TTBOMK, > though I haven't gone looking either. > > John W. Colby > Colby Consulting > www.ColbyConsulting.com > -----Original Message----- > From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Michael Bahr > Sent: Monday, February 11, 2008 12:34 PM > To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving > Subject: Re: [AccessD] OT RE: Rar vs winzip > > John, RAR is not as popular as is WinZip. You would forcing others to > purchase RAR to uncompress your files. That could be annoying. Also, one > of the many reasons for the multi-core processors is so that you can do > multiple things at one time stretched across the processors which is > suppose > to make you more productive; this is different from single core > processors. > But if an application consumes all processors then I would have to think > that is a flaw unless there is specifically an option to use one or more > processors. > > If you are concerned about the zipping time then schedule it for > lunch/dinner or ... > > Mike... > >> Jim, >> >> Actually the focus wasn't how it uses a quad core specifically but >> rather that RAR seems to make better use of multi-core (multi-thread) >> in general, how that effects the speed of getting a file zipped up, >> and how that effects processor usage. Since I work from a home >> office, I have used Winzip a LOT to ship Access files back and forth >> from my clients. Often times the time to zip up the files gets >> excessive, I have a client with total data BEs approaching a gig. I >> just thought it might be useful information to those of us who face >> this problem. I will certainly be using RAR from this point on when I >> need to get a big file zipped in a hurry. OTOH it pretty much >> consumes the processor so I will NOT use it if I need to be working on >> other things simultaneously. >> >> I just found it an interesting comparison between the two products and >> how they effect what I do. In fact I happened (at the time) to be >> zipping huge SQL Server databases for archiving, but as you pointed >> out, the file type is indeed irrelevant. >> >> John W. Colby >> Colby Consulting >> www.ColbyConsulting.com >> -----Original Message----- >> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com >> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim Dettman >> Sent: Sunday, February 10, 2008 5:41 PM >> To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' >> Subject: [AccessD] OT RE: Rar vs winzip >> >> Bobby, >> >> The focus though wasn't in working with databases per say, but how >> WinZip and RAR works with a quad core processor. The file type really >> is a moot point. >> >> Jim, > > -- > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > From accessd at shaw.ca Mon Feb 11 18:20:16 2008 From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence) Date: Mon, 11 Feb 2008 16:20:16 -0800 Subject: [AccessD] OT: MS SQL question In-Reply-To: <29f585dd0802100708s3f5ce8e0weefd17805fc6c55a@mail.gmail.com> References: <144247.82406.qm@web50109.mail.re2.yahoo.com> <29f585dd0802100708s3f5ce8e0weefd17805fc6c55a@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Hi Arthur and Robert: Mixed mode is already set through the SQ Management Studio. Went through the various services and changed them to "allow service to interact with desktop" (Not sure what this will do or what it does.) A couple of the service login settings were set to an account like "AUTHORITY\NetworkService" and I did not change this as I am not sure of the ramifications. Finally, I set the owner to the newly created database user and gave it admin rights. That brute-force process seemed to initially work but.... The following error started coming up... Login failed for user ''. The user is not associated with a trusted SQL Server connection. ...when working with ASP.Net. I am not sure what should be adjusted next. TIA Jim -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Arthur Fuller Sent: Sunday, February 10, 2008 7:08 AM To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving Subject: Re: [AccessD] OT: MS SQL question Jim, This (cribbed from my site artfulsoftware.com) may be of use: Change authentication mode Change the Authentication mode on existing MSDE Servers to 'mixed' (Windows Authentication and SQL Server) by modifying this registry key: HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Microsoft SQL Server\MSSQL.x\MSSQLServer If you are using SQL Server 2005, the above registry key stores the authentication mode regardless of whether you installed a default instance or a named instance. MSSQL.x is a placeholder for the corresponding value for your system. Set the value LoginMode to 2. This tells your server to accept SQL Server AND Windows authentication methods. Stop and restart the MSSQL service after making this change: NET STOP MSSQLSERVER NET START MSSQLSERVER To accomplish the same for every server instance using the Windows GUI, log in via Windows Authentication. If you can't log on via Windows Auth then revise User Account privileges in Control Panel | User Accounts. Check to see if you have Administrator Access on machine. If not, set it and continue below. 1. Right click 'your server', choose 'properties'. Go to 'Security' and select 'Mixed Mode'. Close SQL EMT. 2. In Start | Control Panel | Admin Tools | Services panel, scroll down to view your SQL services and then one-at-a-time right click each and select properties. 3. Click the 'Log On' tab and select 'Local System account' and 'Allow service to interact..' check box (nothing else), then click 'OK'. 4. You should be back at the main Sevices panel. Using the cassette player icons at the top of panel, simply stop, then start each SQL service (there's a stop start button does both auto). 5. After restarting each, close window and try logging in using SQL Auth. For the real beginners: username: sa pwd: leave blank. hth, Arthur From tuxedoman888 at gmail.com Mon Feb 11 22:45:27 2008 From: tuxedoman888 at gmail.com (Billy Pang) Date: Mon, 11 Feb 2008 20:45:27 -0800 Subject: [AccessD] OT: MS SQL question In-Reply-To: References: <144247.82406.qm@web50109.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <7c8826480802112045g21663482h636df1169a14b7c7@mail.gmail.com> I haven't used MSSQL 2005 but can you use sql profiler to monitor your connection? looks like your authentication went through so it should register something. that should tell you the user you are using to test your odbc connection; then i'd verified the default database setting for that user and see if that user has permission to open the database. hth Billy On Feb 9, 2008 6:49 PM, Jim Lawrence wrote: > Sorry for the OT but I am having a bad MS SQL day and responses have been > slow on the other list. > > I have always designed my MS SQL with Windows Authentication and when > Anonymous access was required it was through IIS... for the last 10 years. > > Now there is a new challenge. Connect MS SQL 2005 through MS SQL or 'sa' > mode and the server is proving a worthy opponent. > > The server is set to support both connection modes but I am not sure > whether > these setting can be set/unset at the database level. I have created a > user > and the system seems happy but when testing the connection through ODBC it > responds with something like: > > Connection failed: > SQLState: '42000' > SQL Server Error: 4064 > [Microsoft][ODBC SQL Server Driver][SQL Server]Cannot open user default > database. Login failed. > > I am sure the issues is something very simple but after 2 days no joy. > > Any insights? > > TIA > Jim > > -- > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > -- Billy Pang http://dbnotes.blogspot.com/ "Once the game is over, the King and the pawn go back in the same box." - Italian proverb From accessd at shaw.ca Mon Feb 11 23:12:03 2008 From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence) Date: Mon, 11 Feb 2008 21:12:03 -0800 Subject: [AccessD] OT: MS SQL question In-Reply-To: References: <144247.82406.qm@web50109.mail.re2.yahoo.com> <29f585dd0802100708s3f5ce8e0weefd17805fc6c55a@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Hi All: It worked after hard-coding the username and password directly into the ASP.Net web.config file. Jim -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim Lawrence Sent: Monday, February 11, 2008 4:20 PM To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' Subject: Re: [AccessD] OT: MS SQL question Hi Arthur and Robert: Mixed mode is already set through the SQ Management Studio. Went through the various services and changed them to "allow service to interact with desktop" (Not sure what this will do or what it does.) A couple of the service login settings were set to an account like "AUTHORITY\NetworkService" and I did not change this as I am not sure of the ramifications. Finally, I set the owner to the newly created database user and gave it admin rights. That brute-force process seemed to initially work but.... The following error started coming up... Login failed for user ''. The user is not associated with a trusted SQL Server connection. ...when working with ASP.Net. I am not sure what should be adjusted next. TIA Jim -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Arthur Fuller Sent: Sunday, February 10, 2008 7:08 AM To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving Subject: Re: [AccessD] OT: MS SQL question Jim, This (cribbed from my site artfulsoftware.com) may be of use: Change authentication mode Change the Authentication mode on existing MSDE Servers to 'mixed' (Windows Authentication and SQL Server) by modifying this registry key: HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Microsoft SQL Server\MSSQL.x\MSSQLServer If you are using SQL Server 2005, the above registry key stores the authentication mode regardless of whether you installed a default instance or a named instance. MSSQL.x is a placeholder for the corresponding value for your system. Set the value LoginMode to 2. This tells your server to accept SQL Server AND Windows authentication methods. Stop and restart the MSSQL service after making this change: NET STOP MSSQLSERVER NET START MSSQLSERVER To accomplish the same for every server instance using the Windows GUI, log in via Windows Authentication. If you can't log on via Windows Auth then revise User Account privileges in Control Panel | User Accounts. Check to see if you have Administrator Access on machine. If not, set it and continue below. 1. Right click 'your server', choose 'properties'. Go to 'Security' and select 'Mixed Mode'. Close SQL EMT. 2. In Start | Control Panel | Admin Tools | Services panel, scroll down to view your SQL services and then one-at-a-time right click each and select properties. 3. Click the 'Log On' tab and select 'Local System account' and 'Allow service to interact..' check box (nothing else), then click 'OK'. 4. You should be back at the main Sevices panel. Using the cassette player icons at the top of panel, simply stop, then start each SQL service (there's a stop start button does both auto). 5. After restarting each, close window and try logging in using SQL Auth. For the real beginners: username: sa pwd: leave blank. hth, Arthur -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From accessd at shaw.ca Tue Feb 12 01:29:07 2008 From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence) Date: Mon, 11 Feb 2008 23:29:07 -0800 Subject: [AccessD] OT: MS SQL question In-Reply-To: <7c8826480802112045g21663482h636df1169a14b7c7@mail.gmail.com> References: <144247.82406.qm@web50109.mail.re2.yahoo.com> <7c8826480802112045g21663482h636df1169a14b7c7@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Thanks for that Billy. I think I got it to work but SQL authentication does not seem a very sophistigated method... In over ten years I have never used any other than Windows Authentication and if the product I was installing didn't demand it... Jim ----- Original Message ----- From: Billy Pang Date: Monday, February 11, 2008 8:46 pm Subject: Re: [AccessD] OT: MS SQL question To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving > I haven't used MSSQL 2005 but can you use sql profiler to > monitor your > connection? looks like your authentication went through so > it should > register something. that should tell you the user you are > using to test > your odbc connection; then i'd verified the default database > setting for > that user and see if that user has permission to open the database. > > hth > > Billy > > > > On Feb 9, 2008 6:49 PM, Jim Lawrence wrote: > > > Sorry for the OT but I am having a bad MS SQL day and > responses have been > > slow on the other list. > > > > I have always designed my MS SQL with Windows Authentication > and when > > Anonymous access was required it was through IIS... for the > last 10 years. > > > > Now there is a new challenge. Connect MS SQL 2005 through MS > SQL or 'sa' > > mode and the server is proving a worthy opponent. > > > > The server is set to support both connection modes but I am > not sure > > whether > > these setting can be set/unset at the database level. I have > created a > > user > > and the system seems happy but when testing the connection > through ODBC it > > responds with something like: > > > > Connection failed: > > SQLState: '42000' > > SQL Server Error: 4064 > > [Microsoft][ODBC SQL Server Driver][SQL Server]Cannot open > user default > > database. Login failed. > > > > I am sure the issues is something very simple but after 2 days > no joy. > > > > Any insights? > > > > TIA > > Jim > > > > -- > > AccessD mailing list > > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > > > > > -- > Billy Pang > http://dbnotes.blogspot.com/ > "Once the game is over, the King and the pawn go back in the > same box." - > Italian proverb > -- > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com Tue Feb 12 06:33:09 2008 From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (jwcolby) Date: Tue, 12 Feb 2008 07:33:09 -0500 Subject: [AccessD] OT RE: Rar vs winzip In-Reply-To: <1061.24.35.45.228.1202772276.squirrel@mail.expedient.net> References: <010901c86ac0$39accc30$0401a8c0@M90><02d901c86b1e$18438c10$8abea8c0@XPS><001801c86c31$d9ae8670$8d0b9350$@rr.com><004801c86c36$10c66390$8abea8c0@XPS><001d01c86c61$c3df54c0$0401a8c0@M90><2408.198.118.94.95.1202751219.squirrel@mail.expedient.net><005801c86cd7$3d5a0fa0$0401a8c0@M90> <1061.24.35.45.228.1202772276.squirrel@mail.expedient.net> Message-ID: <008b01c86d73$6d8ddf20$0401a8c0@M90> That is an interesting suggestion. However RAR took one fourth as long so it is not just the swap file. John W. Colby Colby Consulting www.ColbyConsulting.com -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Michael Bahr Sent: Monday, February 11, 2008 6:25 PM To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving Subject: Re: [AccessD] OT RE: Rar vs winzip Hi John, so are you saying it takes Winzip over 4 DAYS?? Well I think I know what your problem is.........swap file. I ran across this about 5 years ago. I had a 1.5 GB zip file of plain text. Of course being text it compressed very well. Although I still had ~4 GB free space WinZip wants to unzip into the temp folder and then move it to your desired folder. That meant at least 2 times the uncompressed size. So I bet that is your problem, lack of swap/page file space. That means a tremendous amount of disk swapping is occuring. As a test take a 160-250 empty (formatted) HD and make that your swap file. Tell Windows to remove your current virtual memory and move it to the HD and specify the full size. Windows might complain but who cares, right? Right click on My Comuter | Advanced | Performance Settings | Advanced Tab | Virtual memory Change. Your overall performace should also increase. Mike... > Mike, > > LOL, I know all of that. I was just posting an "interesting (and > maybe > valuable) to know" kind of email. I wasn't expecting anything like > the response I received. > > Let me tell you something. I zipped a hundred gig file. It took RAR > about > 28 HOURS to zip it. It takes Winzip about FOUR times as long to do > the same. I scheduled it to RAR over the weekend, not over lunch! > ;-) > > I was just pointing out that is useful to know your options. I would > NEVER schedule a RAR during a time that I had to use the computer. > OTOH I would schedule a Winzip when I had to use the computer. I > would NEVER try to Winzip a 100g file. It would just take so many > days that it would be silly to even contemplate. I have 400 gigs of > data I want to zip up (or RAR up). > Using Winzip is a non starter. It would be next Christmas before it > got done. BUT... I also have to be careful to not do the RAR while I > need the computer. > > Again, it is just useful to know what choices I have and how they > effect how I work. > > In this day and age, I would expect such utilities to allow me to > designate a % of total CPU power to apply to the task. Neither one > does TTBOMK, though I haven't gone looking either. > > John W. Colby > Colby Consulting > www.ColbyConsulting.com > -----Original Message----- > From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Michael > Bahr > Sent: Monday, February 11, 2008 12:34 PM > To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving > Subject: Re: [AccessD] OT RE: Rar vs winzip > > John, RAR is not as popular as is WinZip. You would forcing others to > purchase RAR to uncompress your files. That could be annoying. Also, > one of the many reasons for the multi-core processors is so that you > can do multiple things at one time stretched across the processors > which is suppose to make you more productive; this is different from > single core processors. > But if an application consumes all processors then I would have to > think that is a flaw unless there is specifically an option to use one > or more processors. > > If you are concerned about the zipping time then schedule it for > lunch/dinner or ... > > Mike... > >> Jim, >> >> Actually the focus wasn't how it uses a quad core specifically but >> rather that RAR seems to make better use of multi-core (multi-thread) >> in general, how that effects the speed of getting a file zipped up, >> and how that effects processor usage. Since I work from a home >> office, I have used Winzip a LOT to ship Access files back and forth >> from my clients. Often times the time to zip up the files gets >> excessive, I have a client with total data BEs approaching a gig. I >> just thought it might be useful information to those of us who face >> this problem. I will certainly be using RAR from this point on when >> I need to get a big file zipped in a hurry. OTOH it pretty much >> consumes the processor so I will NOT use it if I need to be working >> on other things simultaneously. >> >> I just found it an interesting comparison between the two products >> and how they effect what I do. In fact I happened (at the time) to >> be zipping huge SQL Server databases for archiving, but as you >> pointed out, the file type is indeed irrelevant. >> >> John W. Colby >> Colby Consulting >> www.ColbyConsulting.com >> -----Original Message----- >> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com >> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim >> Dettman >> Sent: Sunday, February 10, 2008 5:41 PM >> To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' >> Subject: [AccessD] OT RE: Rar vs winzip >> >> Bobby, >> >> The focus though wasn't in working with databases per say, but how >> WinZip and RAR works with a quad core processor. The file type >> really is a moot point. >> >> Jim, > > -- > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From john at winhaven.net Tue Feb 12 11:07:38 2008 From: john at winhaven.net (John Bartow) Date: Tue, 12 Feb 2008 11:07:38 -0600 Subject: [AccessD] OT RE: Rar vs winzip In-Reply-To: <008b01c86d73$6d8ddf20$0401a8c0@M90> Message-ID: <200802121707.m1CH7Qf7003971@databaseadvisors.com> Hi John, Some thoughts on this thread: RAR might just create its own "swap" file but I do not know this as a fact. Some products do that, e.g. Photoshop and Illustrator. If these products are running slow one thing to check is which drive they are using as a swap drive. I keep older drives around just for that purpose. An 8GB drive makes an adequate swap drive for most Photoshop needs. The latest version of WinZip can extract RAR files but cannot create them, so your customers may be able to "unzip" your RAR files without additional software. I'm not sure which versions of WinZip included this functionality. WinZip is not longer shareware. It is no longer "cheap" either but one can generally find half price deals and such on it. A nice backup product for SOHOs is ZipBackup. It is relatively inexpensive and easy to use. And if all else fails, one can open the backup archives with WinZip. From accessd at shaw.ca Tue Feb 12 11:30:12 2008 From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence) Date: Tue, 12 Feb 2008 09:30:12 -0800 Subject: [AccessD] OT RE: Rar vs winzip In-Reply-To: <008b01c86d73$6d8ddf20$0401a8c0@M90> References: <010901c86ac0$39accc30$0401a8c0@M90> <02d901c86b1e$18438c10$8abea8c0@XPS> <001801c86c31$d9ae8670$8d0b9350$@rr.com> <004801c86c36$10c66390$8abea8c0@XPS> <001d01c86c61$c3df54c0$0401a8c0@M90> <2408.198.118.94.95.1202751219.squirrel@mail.expedient.net> <005801c86cd7$3d5a0fa0$0401a8c0@M90> <1061.24.35.45.228.1202772276.squirrel@mail.expedient.net> <008b01c86d73$6d8ddf20$0401a8c0@M90> Message-ID: Hi John: My understanding is that RAR is a multi-threaded app and therefore will perform faster than WinZip. The problem is that multi-thread apps tend to suck resources from any other application that may be trying to run at the same time on the same system. Jim -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of jwcolby Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2008 4:33 AM To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' Subject: Re: [AccessD] OT RE: Rar vs winzip That is an interesting suggestion. However RAR took one fourth as long so it is not just the swap file. John W. Colby Colby Consulting www.ColbyConsulting.com -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Michael Bahr Sent: Monday, February 11, 2008 6:25 PM To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving Subject: Re: [AccessD] OT RE: Rar vs winzip Hi John, so are you saying it takes Winzip over 4 DAYS?? Well I think I know what your problem is.........swap file. I ran across this about 5 years ago. I had a 1.5 GB zip file of plain text. Of course being text it compressed very well. Although I still had ~4 GB free space WinZip wants to unzip into the temp folder and then move it to your desired folder. That meant at least 2 times the uncompressed size. So I bet that is your problem, lack of swap/page file space. That means a tremendous amount of disk swapping is occuring. As a test take a 160-250 empty (formatted) HD and make that your swap file. Tell Windows to remove your current virtual memory and move it to the HD and specify the full size. Windows might complain but who cares, right? Right click on My Comuter | Advanced | Performance Settings | Advanced Tab | Virtual memory Change. Your overall performace should also increase. Mike... > Mike, > > LOL, I know all of that. I was just posting an "interesting (and > maybe > valuable) to know" kind of email. I wasn't expecting anything like > the response I received. > > Let me tell you something. I zipped a hundred gig file. It took RAR > about > 28 HOURS to zip it. It takes Winzip about FOUR times as long to do > the same. I scheduled it to RAR over the weekend, not over lunch! > ;-) > > I was just pointing out that is useful to know your options. I would > NEVER schedule a RAR during a time that I had to use the computer. > OTOH I would schedule a Winzip when I had to use the computer. I > would NEVER try to Winzip a 100g file. It would just take so many > days that it would be silly to even contemplate. I have 400 gigs of > data I want to zip up (or RAR up). > Using Winzip is a non starter. It would be next Christmas before it > got done. BUT... I also have to be careful to not do the RAR while I > need the computer. > > Again, it is just useful to know what choices I have and how they > effect how I work. > > In this day and age, I would expect such utilities to allow me to > designate a % of total CPU power to apply to the task. Neither one > does TTBOMK, though I haven't gone looking either. > > John W. Colby > Colby Consulting > www.ColbyConsulting.com > -----Original Message----- > From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Michael > Bahr > Sent: Monday, February 11, 2008 12:34 PM > To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving > Subject: Re: [AccessD] OT RE: Rar vs winzip > > John, RAR is not as popular as is WinZip. You would forcing others to > purchase RAR to uncompress your files. That could be annoying. Also, > one of the many reasons for the multi-core processors is so that you > can do multiple things at one time stretched across the processors > which is suppose to make you more productive; this is different from > single core processors. > But if an application consumes all processors then I would have to > think that is a flaw unless there is specifically an option to use one > or more processors. > > If you are concerned about the zipping time then schedule it for > lunch/dinner or ... > > Mike... > >> Jim, >> >> Actually the focus wasn't how it uses a quad core specifically but >> rather that RAR seems to make better use of multi-core (multi-thread) >> in general, how that effects the speed of getting a file zipped up, >> and how that effects processor usage. Since I work from a home >> office, I have used Winzip a LOT to ship Access files back and forth >> from my clients. Often times the time to zip up the files gets >> excessive, I have a client with total data BEs approaching a gig. I >> just thought it might be useful information to those of us who face >> this problem. I will certainly be using RAR from this point on when >> I need to get a big file zipped in a hurry. OTOH it pretty much >> consumes the processor so I will NOT use it if I need to be working >> on other things simultaneously. >> >> I just found it an interesting comparison between the two products >> and how they effect what I do. In fact I happened (at the time) to >> be zipping huge SQL Server databases for archiving, but as you >> pointed out, the file type is indeed irrelevant. >> >> John W. Colby >> Colby Consulting >> www.ColbyConsulting.com >> -----Original Message----- >> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com >> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim >> Dettman >> Sent: Sunday, February 10, 2008 5:41 PM >> To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' >> Subject: [AccessD] OT RE: Rar vs winzip >> >> Bobby, >> >> The focus though wasn't in working with databases per say, but how >> WinZip and RAR works with a quad core processor. The file type >> really is a moot point. >> >> Jim, > > -- > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com Tue Feb 12 11:38:53 2008 From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (jwcolby) Date: Tue, 12 Feb 2008 12:38:53 -0500 Subject: [AccessD] OT RE: Rar vs winzip In-Reply-To: References: <010901c86ac0$39accc30$0401a8c0@M90><02d901c86b1e$18438c10$8abea8c0@XPS><001801c86c31$d9ae8670$8d0b9350$@rr.com><004801c86c36$10c66390$8abea8c0@XPS><001d01c86c61$c3df54c0$0401a8c0@M90><2408.198.118.94.95.1202751219.squirrel@mail.expedient.net><005801c86cd7$3d5a0fa0$0401a8c0@M90><1061.24.35.45.228.1202772276.squirrel@mail.expedient.net><008b01c86d73$6d8ddf20$0401a8c0@M90> Message-ID: <009901c86d9e$232b9be0$0401a8c0@M90> Yep, and that is precisely what happened. FAST though. John W. Colby Colby Consulting www.ColbyConsulting.com -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim Lawrence Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2008 12:30 PM To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' Subject: Re: [AccessD] OT RE: Rar vs winzip Hi John: My understanding is that RAR is a multi-threaded app and therefore will perform faster than WinZip. The problem is that multi-thread apps tend to suck resources from any other application that may be trying to run at the same time on the same system. Jim -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of jwcolby Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2008 4:33 AM To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' Subject: Re: [AccessD] OT RE: Rar vs winzip That is an interesting suggestion. However RAR took one fourth as long so it is not just the swap file. John W. Colby Colby Consulting www.ColbyConsulting.com -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Michael Bahr Sent: Monday, February 11, 2008 6:25 PM To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving Subject: Re: [AccessD] OT RE: Rar vs winzip Hi John, so are you saying it takes Winzip over 4 DAYS?? Well I think I know what your problem is.........swap file. I ran across this about 5 years ago. I had a 1.5 GB zip file of plain text. Of course being text it compressed very well. Although I still had ~4 GB free space WinZip wants to unzip into the temp folder and then move it to your desired folder. That meant at least 2 times the uncompressed size. So I bet that is your problem, lack of swap/page file space. That means a tremendous amount of disk swapping is occuring. As a test take a 160-250 empty (formatted) HD and make that your swap file. Tell Windows to remove your current virtual memory and move it to the HD and specify the full size. Windows might complain but who cares, right? Right click on My Comuter | Advanced | Performance Settings | Advanced Tab | Virtual memory Change. Your overall performace should also increase. Mike... > Mike, > > LOL, I know all of that. I was just posting an "interesting (and > maybe > valuable) to know" kind of email. I wasn't expecting anything like > the response I received. > > Let me tell you something. I zipped a hundred gig file. It took RAR > about > 28 HOURS to zip it. It takes Winzip about FOUR times as long to do > the same. I scheduled it to RAR over the weekend, not over lunch! > ;-) > > I was just pointing out that is useful to know your options. I would > NEVER schedule a RAR during a time that I had to use the computer. > OTOH I would schedule a Winzip when I had to use the computer. I > would NEVER try to Winzip a 100g file. It would just take so many > days that it would be silly to even contemplate. I have 400 gigs of > data I want to zip up (or RAR up). > Using Winzip is a non starter. It would be next Christmas before it > got done. BUT... I also have to be careful to not do the RAR while I > need the computer. > > Again, it is just useful to know what choices I have and how they > effect how I work. > > In this day and age, I would expect such utilities to allow me to > designate a % of total CPU power to apply to the task. Neither one > does TTBOMK, though I haven't gone looking either. > > John W. Colby > Colby Consulting > www.ColbyConsulting.com > -----Original Message----- > From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Michael > Bahr > Sent: Monday, February 11, 2008 12:34 PM > To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving > Subject: Re: [AccessD] OT RE: Rar vs winzip > > John, RAR is not as popular as is WinZip. You would forcing others to > purchase RAR to uncompress your files. That could be annoying. Also, > one of the many reasons for the multi-core processors is so that you > can do multiple things at one time stretched across the processors > which is suppose to make you more productive; this is different from > single core processors. > But if an application consumes all processors then I would have to > think that is a flaw unless there is specifically an option to use one > or more processors. > > If you are concerned about the zipping time then schedule it for > lunch/dinner or ... > > Mike... > >> Jim, >> >> Actually the focus wasn't how it uses a quad core specifically but >> rather that RAR seems to make better use of multi-core (multi-thread) >> in general, how that effects the speed of getting a file zipped up, >> and how that effects processor usage. Since I work from a home >> office, I have used Winzip a LOT to ship Access files back and forth >> from my clients. Often times the time to zip up the files gets >> excessive, I have a client with total data BEs approaching a gig. I >> just thought it might be useful information to those of us who face >> this problem. I will certainly be using RAR from this point on when >> I need to get a big file zipped in a hurry. OTOH it pretty much >> consumes the processor so I will NOT use it if I need to be working >> on other things simultaneously. >> >> I just found it an interesting comparison between the two products >> and how they effect what I do. In fact I happened (at the time) to >> be zipping huge SQL Server databases for archiving, but as you >> pointed out, the file type is indeed irrelevant. >> >> John W. Colby >> Colby Consulting >> www.ColbyConsulting.com >> -----Original Message----- >> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com >> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim >> Dettman >> Sent: Sunday, February 10, 2008 5:41 PM >> To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' >> Subject: [AccessD] OT RE: Rar vs winzip >> >> Bobby, >> >> The focus though wasn't in working with databases per say, but how >> WinZip and RAR works with a quad core processor. The file type >> really is a moot point. >> >> Jim, > > -- > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com Tue Feb 12 11:39:58 2008 From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (jwcolby) Date: Tue, 12 Feb 2008 12:39:58 -0500 Subject: [AccessD] Automation of word In-Reply-To: References: <005601c8673d$054b3520$0401a8c0@M90><001a01c86743$06babbf0$0301a8c0@HAL9005><008001c86749$2c17a600$0401a8c0@M90><001b01c867e3$2663c910$8119fea9@LTVM> <00af01c867fa$89035100$0401a8c0@M90> Message-ID: <009a01c86d9e$49e9d260$0401a8c0@M90> Boy bringing back some memories there. I owned that book back in 1987 and probably earlier. Never bought the next version though. John W. Colby Colby Consulting www.ColbyConsulting.com -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Hale, Jim Sent: Monday, February 11, 2008 5:05 PM To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving Subject: Re: [AccessD] Automation of word Check out page 483 of the ADH. I know this is for forms but I wonder if something similar can be used with an open instance of Word. Just a thought. Jim Hale *********************************************************************** The information transmitted is intended solely for the individual or entity to which it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or privileged material. Any review, retransmission, dissemination or other use of or taking action in reliance upon this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient is prohibited. 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No liability is accepted for any damages caused by any virus transmitted by this email. -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From Jim.Hale at FleetPride.com Tue Feb 12 13:28:31 2008 From: Jim.Hale at FleetPride.com (Hale, Jim) Date: Tue, 12 Feb 2008 13:28:31 -0600 Subject: [AccessD] Automation of word In-Reply-To: <009a01c86d9e$49e9d260$0401a8c0@M90> References: <005601c8673d$054b3520$0401a8c0@M90><001a01c86743$06babbf0$0301a 8c0@HAL9005><008001c86749$2c17a600$0401a8c0@M90><001b01c867e3$2663c910$8119 fea9@LTVM><00af01c867fa$89035100$0401a8c0@M90> <009a01c86d9e$49e9d260$0401a8c0@M90> Message-ID: Gee I'm just getting to the point where I understand half of what Getz is talking about. :-) Jim Hale -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of jwcolby Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2008 11:40 AM To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' Subject: Re: [AccessD] Automation of word Boy bringing back some memories there. 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From mmattys at rochester.rr.com Tue Feb 12 13:49:12 2008 From: mmattys at rochester.rr.com (Michael R Mattys) Date: Tue, 12 Feb 2008 14:49:12 -0500 Subject: [AccessD] Automation of word References: <005601c8673d$054b3520$0401a8c0@M90> <"001a01c86743$06babbf0$0301a 8c0"@HAL9005> <008001c86749$2c17a600$0401a8c0@M90> <"001b01c867e3$2663c910$8119 fea9"@LTVM> <00af01c867fa$89035100$0401a8c0@M90> <"EB4CE6F971CE0948BFADB756562E 8F330193EBFA"@corp-es04.fleetpride.local> <009a01c86d9e$49e9d260$0401a8c0@M90> Message-ID: <02ff01c86db0$5887ddf0$0202a8c0@Laptop> Much of which follows after the topics in Appleman's Guide to the Win32 API. I wonder if another is or will be produced? Michael R. Mattys MapPoint & Access Dev www.mattysconsulting.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Hale, Jim" To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving" Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2008 2:28 PM Subject: Re: [AccessD] Automation of word > > Gee I'm just getting to the point where I understand half of what Getz > is talking about. :-) > Jim Hale > > -----Original Message----- > From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of jwcolby > Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2008 11:40 AM > To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' > Subject: Re: [AccessD] Automation of word > > Boy bringing back some memories there. I owned that book back in 1987 > and > probably earlier. Never bought the next version though. > > > John W. Colby > Colby Consulting > www.ColbyConsulting.com From kost36 at otenet.gr Tue Feb 12 14:14:29 2008 From: kost36 at otenet.gr (Kostas Konstantinidis) Date: Tue, 12 Feb 2008 22:14:29 +0200 Subject: [AccessD] change tab control's page on open... In-Reply-To: <009901c86d9e$232b9be0$0401a8c0@M90> References: <010901c86ac0$39accc30$0401a8c0@M90><02d901c86b1e$18438c10$8abea8c0@XPS><001801c86c31$d9ae8670$8d0b9350$@rr.com><004801c86c36$10c66390$8abea8c0@XPS><001d01c86c61$c3df54c0$0401a8c0@M90><2408.198.118.94.95.1202751219.squirrel@mail.expedient.net><005801c86cd7$3d5a0fa0$0401a8c0@M90><1061.24.35.45.228.1202772276.squirrel@mail.expedient.net><008b01c86d73$6d8ddf20$0401a8c0@M90> <009901c86d9e$232b9be0$0401a8c0@M90> Message-ID: <0334507661B8402CB3196AC4ECA5A6F9@kost36PC> hi group, In a form I use a subform with a 12 pages tab control inside the titles are 01 to 12 which means 12 months of a year What I want to do is when the system's date changes my form to be able to open on the corresponding tab page e.g. when the system date will be 01/03/2008 my form to be open on tab conttrol's page with the title 03 Is that effectible thank's a lot /kostas From Lambert.Heenan at AIG.com Tue Feb 12 15:12:14 2008 From: Lambert.Heenan at AIG.com (Heenan, Lambert) Date: Tue, 12 Feb 2008 16:12:14 -0500 Subject: [AccessD] change tab control's page on open... Message-ID: <34C8A2AB1EF3564CB0D64DB6AFFDD5C208ED7A5E@XLIVMBX35bkup.aig.com> Well this little piece of code would do the trick... Private Sub Form_Load() Dim nPage As Long nPage = Month(Date) tabControl1.Pages(nPage - 1).SetFocus End Sub But I wonder what these 12 tab pages are doing. I hope you don't have a table structure where there are different fields for different month's data entry instead of just one set of fields and a date time stamp on each record. Lambert -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Kostas Konstantinidis Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2008 3:14 PM To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving Subject: [AccessD] change tab control's page on open... hi group, In a form I use a subform with a 12 pages tab control inside the titles are 01 to 12 which means 12 months of a year What I want to do is when the system's date changes my form to be able to open on the corresponding tab page e.g. when the system date will be 01/03/2008 my form to be open on tab conttrol's page with the title 03 Is that effectible thank's a lot /kostas -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From fuller.artful at gmail.com Tue Feb 12 15:52:56 2008 From: fuller.artful at gmail.com (Arthur Fuller) Date: Tue, 12 Feb 2008 16:52:56 -0500 Subject: [AccessD] OT RE: Rar vs winzip In-Reply-To: <009901c86d9e$232b9be0$0401a8c0@M90> References: <010901c86ac0$39accc30$0401a8c0@M90> <001801c86c31$d9ae8670$8d0b9350$@rr.com> <004801c86c36$10c66390$8abea8c0@XPS> <001d01c86c61$c3df54c0$0401a8c0@M90> <2408.198.118.94.95.1202751219.squirrel@mail.expedient.net> <005801c86cd7$3d5a0fa0$0401a8c0@M90> <1061.24.35.45.228.1202772276.squirrel@mail.expedient.net> <008b01c86d73$6d8ddf20$0401a8c0@M90> <009901c86d9e$232b9be0$0401a8c0@M90> Message-ID: <29f585dd0802121352i58078eecy9d9d08d720eb71bc@mail.gmail.com> As a long-time user of winRAR, I did want to add one thing to this thread. It can generate standard Zip files too. If you right-click from the Explorer window, choose "add to archive" instead of automatically naming the file. A dialog comes up enabling you to switch from RAR to ZIP format. Arthur On Tue, Feb 12, 2008 at 12:38 PM, jwcolby wrote: > Yep, and that is precisely what happened. FAST though. > > From kost36 at otenet.gr Tue Feb 12 15:56:49 2008 From: kost36 at otenet.gr (Kostas Konstantinidis) Date: Tue, 12 Feb 2008 23:56:49 +0200 Subject: [AccessD] change tab control's page on open... In-Reply-To: <34C8A2AB1EF3564CB0D64DB6AFFDD5C208ED7A5E@XLIVMBX35bkup.aig.com> References: <34C8A2AB1EF3564CB0D64DB6AFFDD5C208ED7A5E@XLIVMBX35bkup.aig.com> Message-ID: Hi Lambert Every tab page keeps filtering dates data from a central year table which counts month by month like an attendance register of a people in a gym now it works perfect Many thank's /kostas ----- Original Message ----- From: "Heenan, Lambert" To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'" Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2008 11:12 PM Subject: Re: [AccessD] change tab control's page on open... > Well this little piece of code would do the trick... > > Private Sub Form_Load() > Dim nPage As Long > nPage = Month(Date) > tabControl1.Pages(nPage - 1).SetFocus > End Sub > > But I wonder what these 12 tab pages are doing. I hope you don't have a > table structure where there are different fields for different month's > data > entry instead of just one set of fields and a date time stamp on each > record. > > Lambert > > -----Original Message----- > From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Kostas > Konstantinidis > Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2008 3:14 PM > To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving > Subject: [AccessD] change tab control's page on open... > > > hi group, > In a form I use a subform with a 12 pages tab control inside the titles > are > 01 to 12 which means 12 months of a year > > What I want to do is when the system's date changes > my form to be able to open on the corresponding tab page > e.g. when the system date will be 01/03/2008 my form to be > open on tab conttrol's page with the title 03 > > Is that effectible > > thank's a lot > /kostas > -- > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > -- > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > From Lambert.Heenan at AIG.com Tue Feb 12 16:01:46 2008 From: Lambert.Heenan at AIG.com (Heenan, Lambert) Date: Tue, 12 Feb 2008 17:01:46 -0500 Subject: [AccessD] change tab control's page on open... Message-ID: <34C8A2AB1EF3564CB0D64DB6AFFDD5C208ED7A67@XLIVMBX35bkup.aig.com> Glad to be able to help. Lambert -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Kostas Konstantinidis Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2008 4:57 PM To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving Subject: Re: [AccessD] change tab control's page on open... Hi Lambert Every tab page keeps filtering dates data from a central year table which counts month by month like an attendance register of a people in a gym now it works perfect Many thank's /kostas ----- Original Message ----- From: "Heenan, Lambert" To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'" Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2008 11:12 PM Subject: Re: [AccessD] change tab control's page on open... > Well this little piece of code would do the trick... > > Private Sub Form_Load() > Dim nPage As Long > nPage = Month(Date) > tabControl1.Pages(nPage - 1).SetFocus > End Sub > > But I wonder what these 12 tab pages are doing. I hope you don't have > a table structure where there are different fields for different > month's data entry instead of just one set of fields and a date time > stamp on each record. > > Lambert > > -----Original Message----- > From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Kostas > Konstantinidis > Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2008 3:14 PM > To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving > Subject: [AccessD] change tab control's page on open... > > > hi group, > In a form I use a subform with a 12 pages tab control inside the > titles > are > 01 to 12 which means 12 months of a year > > What I want to do is when the system's date changes > my form to be able to open on the corresponding tab page > e.g. when the system date will be 01/03/2008 my form to be open on tab > conttrol's page with the title 03 > > Is that effectible > > thank's a lot > /kostas > -- > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > -- > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com Tue Feb 12 16:39:45 2008 From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (jwcolby) Date: Tue, 12 Feb 2008 17:39:45 -0500 Subject: [AccessD] OT RE: Rar vs winzip In-Reply-To: <29f585dd0802121352i58078eecy9d9d08d720eb71bc@mail.gmail.com> References: <010901c86ac0$39accc30$0401a8c0@M90><001801c86c31$d9ae8670$8d0b9350$@rr.com><004801c86c36$10c66390$8abea8c0@XPS><001d01c86c61$c3df54c0$0401a8c0@M90><2408.198.118.94.95.1202751219.squirrel@mail.expedient.net><005801c86cd7$3d5a0fa0$0401a8c0@M90><1061.24.35.45.228.1202772276.squirrel@mail.expedient.net><008b01c86d73$6d8ddf20$0401a8c0@M90><009901c86d9e$232b9be0$0401a8c0@M90> <29f585dd0802121352i58078eecy9d9d08d720eb71bc@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <00a901c86dc8$2ae84110$0401a8c0@M90> Thanks for that Arthur! John W. Colby Colby Consulting www.ColbyConsulting.com -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Arthur Fuller Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2008 4:53 PM To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving Subject: Re: [AccessD] OT RE: Rar vs winzip As a long-time user of winRAR, I did want to add one thing to this thread. It can generate standard Zip files too. If you right-click from the Explorer window, choose "add to archive" instead of automatically naming the file. A dialog comes up enabling you to switch from RAR to ZIP format. Arthur On Tue, Feb 12, 2008 at 12:38 PM, jwcolby wrote: > Yep, and that is precisely what happened. FAST though. > > -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From accessd at shaw.ca Tue Feb 12 17:38:56 2008 From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence) Date: Tue, 12 Feb 2008 15:38:56 -0800 Subject: [AccessD] OT RE: Rar vs winzip In-Reply-To: <29f585dd0802121352i58078eecy9d9d08d720eb71bc@mail.gmail.com> References: <010901c86ac0$39accc30$0401a8c0@M90> <001801c86c31$d9ae8670$8d0b9350$@rr.com> <004801c86c36$10c66390$8abea8c0@XPS> <001d01c86c61$c3df54c0$0401a8c0@M90> <2408.198.118.94.95.1202751219.squirrel@mail.expedient.net> <005801c86cd7$3d5a0fa0$0401a8c0@M90> <1061.24.35.45.228.1202772276.squirrel@mail.expedient.net> <008b01c86d73$6d8ddf20$0401a8c0@M90> <009901c86d9e$232b9be0$0401a8c0@M90> <29f585dd0802121352i58078eecy9d9d08d720eb71bc@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Hi Arthur: There are only a limited number of compression algorithms and as far as I know they are all in the public domain, in one form or another (check out the open source community if you have any doubts.). You are only paying for the implementation and packaging now. I use to use and very much like LZH compression (http://www.sxlist.com/techref/language/delphi/swag/ARCHIVES0041.html) along with the PKZIP group of compression routines. Jim -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Arthur Fuller Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2008 1:53 PM To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving Subject: Re: [AccessD] OT RE: Rar vs winzip As a long-time user of winRAR, I did want to add one thing to this thread. It can generate standard Zip files too. If you right-click from the Explorer window, choose "add to archive" instead of automatically naming the file. A dialog comes up enabling you to switch from RAR to ZIP format. Arthur On Tue, Feb 12, 2008 at 12:38 PM, jwcolby wrote: > Yep, and that is precisely what happened. FAST though. > > -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From darren at activebilling.com.au Tue Feb 12 17:57:01 2008 From: darren at activebilling.com.au (Darren D) Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2008 10:57:01 +1100 Subject: [AccessD] OT RE: Rar vs winzip In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <200802122355.m1CNt9k8020913@databaseadvisors.com> Hi Jim I can see the value and power in the algorithm link you posted Does anyone know of a VB equivalent? I know nothing about Delphi or how to 'convert' from Delphi to VB(A) Darren -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim Lawrence Sent: Wednesday, 13 February 2008 10:39 AM To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' Subject: Re: [AccessD] OT RE: Rar vs winzip Hi Arthur: There are only a limited number of compression algorithms and as far as I know they are all in the public domain, in one form or another (check out the open source community if you have any doubts.). You are only paying for the implementation and packaging now. I use to use and very much like LZH compression (http://www.sxlist.com/techref/language/delphi/swag/ARCHIVES0041.html) along with the PKZIP group of compression routines. Jim -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Arthur Fuller Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2008 1:53 PM To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving Subject: Re: [AccessD] OT RE: Rar vs winzip As a long-time user of winRAR, I did want to add one thing to this thread. It can generate standard Zip files too. If you right-click from the Explorer window, choose "add to archive" instead of automatically naming the file. A dialog comes up enabling you to switch from RAR to ZIP format. Arthur On Tue, Feb 12, 2008 at 12:38 PM, jwcolby wrote: > Yep, and that is precisely what happened. FAST though. > > -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.20.4/1275 - Release Date: 12/02/2008 3:20 PM No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.20.4/1275 - Release Date: 12/02/2008 3:20 PM From Darryl.Collins at coles.com.au Tue Feb 12 18:03:33 2008 From: Darryl.Collins at coles.com.au (Darryl Collins) Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2008 11:03:33 +1100 Subject: [AccessD] OT RE: Rar vs winzip Message-ID: <49DFE57FB126044B8A8B934E7AEA09ED0B27021C@WPEXCH05.colesmyer.ad.cmltd.net.au> Greetings Darren. This link maybe helpful (or indeed may not be) untested... http://www.webace.com.au/~balson/InsaneExcel/Compress.htm But this seems to be closer to what you are seeking http://www.planet-source-code.com/vb/scripts/ShowCode.asp?txtCodeId=2075&lngWId=1 hth Darryl in Oz. -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Darren D Sent: Wednesday, 13 February 2008 10:57 AM To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' Subject: Re: [AccessD] OT RE: Rar vs winzip Hi Jim I can see the value and power in the algorithm link you posted Does anyone know of a VB equivalent? I know nothing about Delphi or how to 'convert' from Delphi to VB(A) Darren -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim Lawrence Sent: Wednesday, 13 February 2008 10:39 AM To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' Subject: Re: [AccessD] OT RE: Rar vs winzip Hi Arthur: There are only a limited number of compression algorithms and as far as I know they are all in the public domain, in one form or another (check out the open source community if you have any doubts.). You are only paying for the implementation and packaging now. I use to use and very much like LZH compression (http://www.sxlist.com/techref/language/delphi/swag/ARCHIVES0041.html) along with the PKZIP group of compression routines. Jim -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Arthur Fuller Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2008 1:53 PM To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving Subject: Re: [AccessD] OT RE: Rar vs winzip As a long-time user of winRAR, I did want to add one thing to this thread. It can generate standard Zip files too. If you right-click from the Explorer window, choose "add to archive" instead of automatically naming the file. A dialog comes up enabling you to switch from RAR to ZIP format. Arthur On Tue, Feb 12, 2008 at 12:38 PM, jwcolby wrote: > Yep, and that is precisely what happened. FAST though. > > -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.20.4/1275 - Release Date: 12/02/2008 3:20 PM No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.20.4/1275 - Release Date: 12/02/2008 3:20 PM -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com This email and any attachments may contain privileged and confidential information and are intended for the named addressee only. 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From darren at activebilling.com.au Tue Feb 12 20:09:52 2008 From: darren at activebilling.com.au (Darren D) Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2008 13:09:52 +1100 Subject: [AccessD] OT RE: Rar vs winzip In-Reply-To: <49DFE57FB126044B8A8B934E7AEA09ED0B27021C@WPEXCH05.colesmyer.ad.cmltd.net.au> Message-ID: <200802130208.m1D28L5p011706@databaseadvisors.com> Hi Darryl in Oz Brilliant - I will try the second one against the stuff I am using now Darren ----------------- T: 1300 301 731 -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Darryl Collins Sent: Wednesday, 13 February 2008 11:04 AM To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving Subject: Re: [AccessD] OT RE: Rar vs winzip Greetings Darren. This link maybe helpful (or indeed may not be) untested... http://www.webace.com.au/~balson/InsaneExcel/Compress.htm But this seems to be closer to what you are seeking http://www.planet-source-code.com/vb/scripts/ShowCode.asp?txtCodeId=2075&lngWId= 1 hth Darryl in Oz. -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Darren D Sent: Wednesday, 13 February 2008 10:57 AM To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' Subject: Re: [AccessD] OT RE: Rar vs winzip Hi Jim I can see the value and power in the algorithm link you posted Does anyone know of a VB equivalent? I know nothing about Delphi or how to 'convert' from Delphi to VB(A) Darren -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim Lawrence Sent: Wednesday, 13 February 2008 10:39 AM To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' Subject: Re: [AccessD] OT RE: Rar vs winzip Hi Arthur: There are only a limited number of compression algorithms and as far as I know they are all in the public domain, in one form or another (check out the open source community if you have any doubts.). You are only paying for the implementation and packaging now. I use to use and very much like LZH compression (http://www.sxlist.com/techref/language/delphi/swag/ARCHIVES0041.html) along with the PKZIP group of compression routines. Jim -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Arthur Fuller Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2008 1:53 PM To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving Subject: Re: [AccessD] OT RE: Rar vs winzip As a long-time user of winRAR, I did want to add one thing to this thread. It can generate standard Zip files too. If you right-click from the Explorer window, choose "add to archive" instead of automatically naming the file. A dialog comes up enabling you to switch from RAR to ZIP format. Arthur On Tue, Feb 12, 2008 at 12:38 PM, jwcolby wrote: > Yep, and that is precisely what happened. FAST though. > > -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.20.4/1275 - Release Date: 12/02/2008 3:20 PM No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.20.4/1275 - Release Date: 12/02/2008 3:20 PM -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com This email and any attachments may contain privileged and confidential information and are intended for the named addressee only. 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Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.20.4/1275 - Release Date: 12/02/2008 3:20 PM From kp at sdsonline.net Tue Feb 12 21:56:21 2008 From: kp at sdsonline.net (Kath Pelletti) Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2008 14:56:21 +1100 Subject: [AccessD] Locking form controls 2003 Message-ID: <005201c86df4$67384d50$6401a8c0@DELLAPTOP> Help please gurus.......trying to develop a routine which will lock (or disable) controls on a form. (Access 2003) I am getting error 438 'Object doesn't support this property or method' on the line 'Select Case ctl.type'. Any idea why? I am using code I have used in 2000. Can I no longer say ctl.type? See code below: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Code : Public Function LockControls(strformname As String) Dim frmIn As Form Dim strerrormsg As String Dim ctl As Control 'On Error GoTo Err_Handler Set frmIn = Forms(strformname) For Each ctl In frmIn.Controls Select Case ctl.Type 'error occurs on this line............ Case acTextBox: ctl.Locked = True End Select Next Normal_exit: DoCmd.SetWarnings True Exit Function Err_Handler: MsgBox "Error: [" & Err.Number & "] " & IIf(Len(strerrormsg) > 0, strerrormsg, Err.Description), vbCritical, "Error Message" Resume Normal_exit End Function ______________________________________ Kath Pelletti Software Design and Solutions Pty Ltd Ph: 9505-6714 Fax: 9505-6430 kp at sdsonline.net From kp at sdsonline.net Tue Feb 12 22:03:07 2008 From: kp at sdsonline.net (Kath Pelletti) Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2008 15:03:07 +1100 Subject: [AccessD] Locking form controls 2003 References: <005201c86df4$67384d50$6401a8c0@DELLAPTOP> Message-ID: <005e01c86df5$58a0afc0$6401a8c0@DELLAPTOP> .....aaahh....as usual as soon as I posted I think I found the answer......syntax now needs to be ctl.controltype, not ctl.type ..seems to be working now.... Kath ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kath Pelletti" To: "Access D Normal List" Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2008 2:56 PM Subject: [AccessD] Locking form controls 2003 > Help please gurus.......trying to develop a routine which will lock (or > disable) controls on a form. (Access 2003) > > I am getting error 438 'Object doesn't support this property or method' on > the line 'Select Case ctl.type'. > > Any idea why? I am using code I have used in 2000. Can I no longer say > ctl.type? > > See code below: > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > Code : > > Public Function LockControls(strformname As String) > Dim frmIn As Form > Dim strerrormsg As String > Dim ctl As Control > 'On Error GoTo Err_Handler > > Set frmIn = Forms(strformname) > For Each ctl In frmIn.Controls > Select Case ctl.Type 'error > occurs on this line............ > Case acTextBox: ctl.Locked = True > End Select > Next > > Normal_exit: > DoCmd.SetWarnings True > Exit Function > > Err_Handler: > MsgBox "Error: [" & Err.Number & "] " & IIf(Len(strerrormsg) > 0, > strerrormsg, Err.Description), vbCritical, "Error Message" > Resume Normal_exit > End Function > > ______________________________________ > Kath Pelletti > Software Design and Solutions Pty Ltd > Ph: 9505-6714 > Fax: 9505-6430 > kp at sdsonline.net > -- > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > From kp at sdsonline.net Tue Feb 12 22:09:05 2008 From: kp at sdsonline.net (Kath Pelletti) Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2008 15:09:05 +1100 Subject: [AccessD] Locking form control - Image control Message-ID: <000201c86df6$bf8a6680$6401a8c0@DELLAPTOP> Different problem..... One of the controls on my form is the 'Add' button which the user clicks to add a new record (Image control because I have an icon image for add buttons). The control type is acimage which does not have an enabled or locked property. Is there a way I can temporarily remove it's 'On Click' property so the user cannot click and add a new record? tia Kath ______________________________________ Kath Pelletti Software Design and Solutions Pty Ltd Ph: 9505-6714 Fax: 9505-6430 kp at sdsonline.net From max.wanadoo at gmail.com Wed Feb 13 03:25:26 2008 From: max.wanadoo at gmail.com (Max Wanadoo) Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2008 09:25:26 -0000 Subject: [AccessD] Locking form control - Image control In-Reply-To: <000201c86df6$bf8a6680$6401a8c0@DELLAPTOP> References: <000201c86df6$bf8a6680$6401a8c0@DELLAPTOP> Message-ID: <001701c86e22$5ff87140$8119fea9@LTVM> Hi Kath, I would just use the MyButton.enabled = True/False but if you wanted to hide it you could use MyButton.Visible = True/False Max -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Kath Pelletti Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2008 4:09 AM To: Access D Normal List Subject: [AccessD] Locking form control - Image control Different problem..... One of the controls on my form is the 'Add' button which the user clicks to add a new record (Image control because I have an icon image for add buttons). The control type is acimage which does not have an enabled or locked property. Is there a way I can temporarily remove it's 'On Click' property so the user cannot click and add a new record? tia Kath ______________________________________ Kath Pelletti Software Design and Solutions Pty Ltd Ph: 9505-6714 Fax: 9505-6430 kp at sdsonline.net -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From max.wanadoo at gmail.com Wed Feb 13 03:27:27 2008 From: max.wanadoo at gmail.com (Max Wanadoo) Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2008 09:27:27 -0000 Subject: [AccessD] Automation of word In-Reply-To: References: <005601c8673d$054b3520$0401a8c0@M90><001a01c86743$06babbf0$0301a8c0@HAL9005><008001c86749$2c17a600$0401a8c0@M90><001b01c867e3$2663c910$8119fea9@LTVM><00af01c867fa$89035100$0401a8c0@M90> <009a01c86d9e$49e9d260$0401a8c0@M90> Message-ID: <001801c86e22$a69c8c80$8119fea9@LTVM> You are way ahead of me then Jim...In my book that makes you a Guru! Max -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Hale, Jim Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2008 7:29 PM To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving Subject: Re: [AccessD] Automation of word Gee I'm just getting to the point where I understand half of what Getz is talking about. :-) Jim Hale -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of jwcolby Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2008 11:40 AM To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' Subject: Re: [AccessD] Automation of word Boy bringing back some memories there. I owned that book back in 1987 and probably earlier. Never bought the next version though. John W. 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No liability is accepted for any damages caused by any virus transmitted by this email. -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From ab-mi at post3.tele.dk Wed Feb 13 04:19:51 2008 From: ab-mi at post3.tele.dk (Asger Blond) Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2008 11:19:51 +0100 Subject: [AccessD] Locking form control - Image control In-Reply-To: <20080213065828.BMNS22541.fep23.mail.dk@databaseadvisors.com> Message-ID: <000701c86e2a$0e85f140$2101a8c0@AB> To temporarily disable the Click-procedure use: MyPictureButton.OnClick = "" To reenable the Click-procedure use: MyPictureButton.OnClick = "[Event Procedure]" HTH Asger -----Oprindelig meddelelse----- Fra: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] P? vegne af Kath Pelletti Sendt: 13. februar 2008 05:09 Til: Access D Normal List Emne: [AccessD] Locking form control - Image control Different problem..... One of the controls on my form is the 'Add' button which the user clicks to add a new record (Image control because I have an icon image for add buttons). The control type is acimage which does not have an enabled or locked property. Is there a way I can temporarily remove it's 'On Click' property so the user cannot click and add a new record? tia Kath ______________________________________ Kath Pelletti Software Design and Solutions Pty Ltd Ph: 9505-6714 Fax: 9505-6430 kp at sdsonline.net -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From accessd at shaw.ca Wed Feb 13 05:50:13 2008 From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence) Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2008 03:50:13 -0800 Subject: [AccessD] OT RE: Rar vs winzip In-Reply-To: <49DFE57FB126044B8A8B934E7AEA09ED0B27021C@WPEXCH05.colesmyer.ad.cmltd.net.au> References: <49DFE57FB126044B8A8B934E7AEA09ED0B27021C@WPEXCH05.colesmyer.ad.cmltd.net.au> Message-ID: <010A2B9DFC3042118EA4A4339C102E6D@creativesystemdesigns.com> Looks like a good resource Darryl; Jim -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Darryl Collins Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2008 4:04 PM To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving Subject: Re: [AccessD] OT RE: Rar vs winzip Greetings Darren. This link maybe helpful (or indeed may not be) untested... http://www.webace.com.au/~balson/InsaneExcel/Compress.htm But this seems to be closer to what you are seeking http://www.planet-source-code.com/vb/scripts/ShowCode.asp?txtCodeId=2075&lng WId=1 hth Darryl in Oz. -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Darren D Sent: Wednesday, 13 February 2008 10:57 AM To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' Subject: Re: [AccessD] OT RE: Rar vs winzip Hi Jim I can see the value and power in the algorithm link you posted Does anyone know of a VB equivalent? I know nothing about Delphi or how to 'convert' from Delphi to VB(A) Darren -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim Lawrence Sent: Wednesday, 13 February 2008 10:39 AM To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' Subject: Re: [AccessD] OT RE: Rar vs winzip Hi Arthur: There are only a limited number of compression algorithms and as far as I know they are all in the public domain, in one form or another (check out the open source community if you have any doubts.). You are only paying for the implementation and packaging now. I use to use and very much like LZH compression (http://www.sxlist.com/techref/language/delphi/swag/ARCHIVES0041.html) along with the PKZIP group of compression routines. Jim -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Arthur Fuller Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2008 1:53 PM To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving Subject: Re: [AccessD] OT RE: Rar vs winzip As a long-time user of winRAR, I did want to add one thing to this thread. It can generate standard Zip files too. If you right-click from the Explorer window, choose "add to archive" instead of automatically naming the file. A dialog comes up enabling you to switch from RAR to ZIP format. Arthur On Tue, Feb 12, 2008 at 12:38 PM, jwcolby wrote: > Yep, and that is precisely what happened. FAST though. > > -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.20.4/1275 - Release Date: 12/02/2008 3:20 PM No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.20.4/1275 - Release Date: 12/02/2008 3:20 PM -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com This email and any attachments may contain privileged and confidential information and are intended for the named addressee only. 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The sender's entire liability will be limited to resupplying the material. -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From accessd at shaw.ca Wed Feb 13 05:48:22 2008 From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence) Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2008 03:48:22 -0800 Subject: [AccessD] OT RE: Rar vs winzip In-Reply-To: <200802122355.m1CNt9k8020913@databaseadvisors.com> References: <200802122355.m1CNt9k8020913@databaseadvisors.com> Message-ID: <026CF1C641DF4B7E89933D2D27642903@creativesystemdesigns.com> Hi Darren: I did not look at the code that closely but being in the business as long as you and I it should be of little difficulty to translate if we wanted to. Jim -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Darren D Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2008 3:57 PM To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' Subject: Re: [AccessD] OT RE: Rar vs winzip Hi Jim I can see the value and power in the algorithm link you posted Does anyone know of a VB equivalent? I know nothing about Delphi or how to 'convert' from Delphi to VB(A) Darren -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim Lawrence Sent: Wednesday, 13 February 2008 10:39 AM To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' Subject: Re: [AccessD] OT RE: Rar vs winzip Hi Arthur: There are only a limited number of compression algorithms and as far as I know they are all in the public domain, in one form or another (check out the open source community if you have any doubts.). You are only paying for the implementation and packaging now. I use to use and very much like LZH compression (http://www.sxlist.com/techref/language/delphi/swag/ARCHIVES0041.html) along with the PKZIP group of compression routines. Jim -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Arthur Fuller Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2008 1:53 PM To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving Subject: Re: [AccessD] OT RE: Rar vs winzip As a long-time user of winRAR, I did want to add one thing to this thread. It can generate standard Zip files too. If you right-click from the Explorer window, choose "add to archive" instead of automatically naming the file. A dialog comes up enabling you to switch from RAR to ZIP format. Arthur On Tue, Feb 12, 2008 at 12:38 PM, jwcolby wrote: > Yep, and that is precisely what happened. FAST though. > > -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.20.4/1275 - Release Date: 12/02/2008 3:20 PM No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.20.4/1275 - Release Date: 12/02/2008 3:20 PM -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From accessd at shaw.ca Wed Feb 13 05:56:05 2008 From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence) Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2008 03:56:05 -0800 Subject: [AccessD] Locking form controls 2003 In-Reply-To: <005201c86df4$67384d50$6401a8c0@DELLAPTOP> References: <005201c86df4$67384d50$6401a8c0@DELLAPTOP> Message-ID: Hi Kath: Just off the top... some objects have to have focus before they can be set. Jim -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Kath Pelletti Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2008 7:56 PM To: Access D Normal List Subject: [AccessD] Locking form controls 2003 Help please gurus.......trying to develop a routine which will lock (or disable) controls on a form. (Access 2003) I am getting error 438 'Object doesn't support this property or method' on the line 'Select Case ctl.type'. Any idea why? I am using code I have used in 2000. Can I no longer say ctl.type? See code below: ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---- Code : Public Function LockControls(strformname As String) Dim frmIn As Form Dim strerrormsg As String Dim ctl As Control 'On Error GoTo Err_Handler Set frmIn = Forms(strformname) For Each ctl In frmIn.Controls Select Case ctl.Type 'error occurs on this line............ Case acTextBox: ctl.Locked = True End Select Next Normal_exit: DoCmd.SetWarnings True Exit Function Err_Handler: MsgBox "Error: [" & Err.Number & "] " & IIf(Len(strerrormsg) > 0, strerrormsg, Err.Description), vbCritical, "Error Message" Resume Normal_exit End Function ______________________________________ Kath Pelletti Software Design and Solutions Pty Ltd Ph: 9505-6714 Fax: 9505-6430 kp at sdsonline.net -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com Wed Feb 13 07:00:04 2008 From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (jwcolby) Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2008 08:00:04 -0500 Subject: [AccessD] Locking form controls 2003 In-Reply-To: References: <005201c86df4$67384d50$6401a8c0@DELLAPTOP> Message-ID: <00b001c86e40$5a7e7b60$0401a8c0@M90> Additionally ALL controls have to NOT have the focus before they can be locked. By that I mean that you cannot lock a control while it has the focus. You have to set the focus to some other control, then lock the control. John W. Colby Colby Consulting www.ColbyConsulting.com -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim Lawrence Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2008 6:56 AM To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' Subject: Re: [AccessD] Locking form controls 2003 Hi Kath: Just off the top... some objects have to have focus before they can be set. Jim -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Kath Pelletti Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2008 7:56 PM To: Access D Normal List Subject: [AccessD] Locking form controls 2003 Help please gurus.......trying to develop a routine which will lock (or disable) controls on a form. (Access 2003) I am getting error 438 'Object doesn't support this property or method' on the line 'Select Case ctl.type'. Any idea why? I am using code I have used in 2000. Can I no longer say ctl.type? See code below: ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---- Code : Public Function LockControls(strformname As String) Dim frmIn As Form Dim strerrormsg As String Dim ctl As Control 'On Error GoTo Err_Handler Set frmIn = Forms(strformname) For Each ctl In frmIn.Controls Select Case ctl.Type 'error occurs on this line............ Case acTextBox: ctl.Locked = True End Select Next Normal_exit: DoCmd.SetWarnings True Exit Function Err_Handler: MsgBox "Error: [" & Err.Number & "] " & IIf(Len(strerrormsg) > 0, strerrormsg, Err.Description), vbCritical, "Error Message" Resume Normal_exit End Function ______________________________________ Kath Pelletti Software Design and Solutions Pty Ltd Ph: 9505-6714 Fax: 9505-6430 kp at sdsonline.net -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From Gustav at cactus.dk Wed Feb 13 07:16:47 2008 From: Gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock) Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2008 14:16:47 +0100 Subject: [AccessD] Locking form controls 2003 Message-ID: Hi John Isn't it Enabled you have in mind? For example, a button doesn't have a Locked property. But a textbox has and it can be set to True while the textbox has focus. /gustav >>> jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com 13-02-2008 14:00 >>> Additionally ALL controls have to NOT have the focus before they can be locked. By that I mean that you cannot lock a control while it has the focus. You have to set the focus to some other control, then lock the control. John W. Colby Colby Consulting www.ColbyConsulting.com -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim Lawrence Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2008 6:56 AM To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' Subject: Re: [AccessD] Locking form controls 2003 Hi Kath: Just off the top... some objects have to have focus before they can be set. Jim -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Kath Pelletti Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2008 7:56 PM To: Access D Normal List Subject: [AccessD] Locking form controls 2003 Help please gurus.......trying to develop a routine which will lock (or disable) controls on a form. (Access 2003) I am getting error 438 'Object doesn't support this property or method' on the line 'Select Case ctl.type'. Any idea why? I am using code I have used in 2000. Can I no longer say ctl.type? See code below: ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---- Code : Public Function LockControls(strformname As String) Dim frmIn As Form Dim strerrormsg As String Dim ctl As Control 'On Error GoTo Err_Handler Set frmIn = Forms(strformname) For Each ctl In frmIn.Controls Select Case ctl.Type 'error occurs on this line............ Case acTextBox: ctl.Locked = True End Select Next Normal_exit: DoCmd.SetWarnings True Exit Function Err_Handler: MsgBox "Error: [" & Err.Number & "] " & IIf(Len(strerrormsg) > 0, strerrormsg, Err.Description), vbCritical, "Error Message" Resume Normal_exit End Function ______________________________________ Kath Pelletti Software Design and Solutions Pty Ltd Ph: 9505-6714 Fax: 9505-6430 kp at sdsonline.net From jimdettman at verizon.net Wed Feb 13 08:25:10 2008 From: jimdettman at verizon.net (Jim Dettman) Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2008 09:25:10 -0500 Subject: [AccessD] Locking form controls 2003 In-Reply-To: <005201c86df4$67384d50$6401a8c0@DELLAPTOP> References: <005201c86df4$67384d50$6401a8c0@DELLAPTOP> Message-ID: <01d901c86e4c$3e32ddf0$8abea8c0@XPS> FWIW, see the code below. Besides checking for the section, you might also want to put a tag in the tag property of each control as to whether or not it should be locked. What you'll find on many forms is that some controls need to remain unlocked. In my case, my standard form handler had a control panel in the form header, which is why I did controls only in the detail section. And as John said, you need to have focus on another control before you can disable or lock a control. Note that the code below needs some cleanup (it's from my A2 days; what can I say). The object variables should be set to nothing, etc., but it does work. Jim. Function StdLockForm(frm As Form, intState As Integer) 'Lock/unlock all the fields in the detail section of the form that are enabled. Dim intL As Integer 'Generic loop counter Dim intCount As Integer 'Number of controls on the form intCount = frm.Count 'Find out how many controls are on the form On Error Resume Next For intL = 0 To intCount - 1 'Step thru all controls on the form If (frm(intL).Section = False) Then 'Don't do any control execpt those in the detail section If (frm(intL).Enabled = True) Then frm(intL).Locked = intState 'Set 'Locked' property to proper state End If Next intL On Error GoTo 0 End Function Call examples: Function LockForm(FormName As String) Dim frm As Form Set frm = Forms(FormName) LockForm = StdLockForm(frm, True) End Function Function UnLockForm(FormName As String) Dim frm As Form Set frm = Forms(FormName) UnLockForm = StdLockForm(frm, False) End Function -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Kath Pelletti Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2008 10:56 PM To: Access D Normal List Subject: [AccessD] Locking form controls 2003 Help please gurus.......trying to develop a routine which will lock (or disable) controls on a form. (Access 2003) I am getting error 438 'Object doesn't support this property or method' on the line 'Select Case ctl.type'. Any idea why? I am using code I have used in 2000. Can I no longer say ctl.type? See code below: ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---- Code : Public Function LockControls(strformname As String) Dim frmIn As Form Dim strerrormsg As String Dim ctl As Control 'On Error GoTo Err_Handler Set frmIn = Forms(strformname) For Each ctl In frmIn.Controls Select Case ctl.Type 'error occurs on this line............ Case acTextBox: ctl.Locked = True End Select Next Normal_exit: DoCmd.SetWarnings True Exit Function Err_Handler: MsgBox "Error: [" & Err.Number & "] " & IIf(Len(strerrormsg) > 0, strerrormsg, Err.Description), vbCritical, "Error Message" Resume Normal_exit End Function ______________________________________ Kath Pelletti Software Design and Solutions Pty Ltd Ph: 9505-6714 Fax: 9505-6430 kp at sdsonline.net -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com Wed Feb 13 08:34:31 2008 From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (jwcolby) Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2008 09:34:31 -0500 Subject: [AccessD] Locking form controls 2003 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <00b401c86e4d$8c834750$0401a8c0@M90> That is correct, sorry for the mis-statement. In order for a control to get the focus it has to be enabled. It CAN be locked and get the focus. In order to DISABLE a control it must NOT have the focus. Sorry about that. John W. Colby Colby Consulting www.ColbyConsulting.com -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gustav Brock Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2008 8:17 AM To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: Re: [AccessD] Locking form controls 2003 Hi John Isn't it Enabled you have in mind? For example, a button doesn't have a Locked property. But a textbox has and it can be set to True while the textbox has focus. /gustav >>> jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com 13-02-2008 14:00 >>> Additionally ALL controls have to NOT have the focus before they can be locked. By that I mean that you cannot lock a control while it has the focus. You have to set the focus to some other control, then lock the control. John W. Colby Colby Consulting www.ColbyConsulting.com -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim Lawrence Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2008 6:56 AM To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' Subject: Re: [AccessD] Locking form controls 2003 Hi Kath: Just off the top... some objects have to have focus before they can be set. Jim -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Kath Pelletti Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2008 7:56 PM To: Access D Normal List Subject: [AccessD] Locking form controls 2003 Help please gurus.......trying to develop a routine which will lock (or disable) controls on a form. (Access 2003) I am getting error 438 'Object doesn't support this property or method' on the line 'Select Case ctl.type'. Any idea why? I am using code I have used in 2000. Can I no longer say ctl.type? See code below: ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---- Code : Public Function LockControls(strformname As String) Dim frmIn As Form Dim strerrormsg As String Dim ctl As Control 'On Error GoTo Err_Handler Set frmIn = Forms(strformname) For Each ctl In frmIn.Controls Select Case ctl.Type 'error occurs on this line............ Case acTextBox: ctl.Locked = True End Select Next Normal_exit: DoCmd.SetWarnings True Exit Function Err_Handler: MsgBox "Error: [" & Err.Number & "] " & IIf(Len(strerrormsg) > 0, strerrormsg, Err.Description), vbCritical, "Error Message" Resume Normal_exit End Function ______________________________________ Kath Pelletti Software Design and Solutions Pty Ltd Ph: 9505-6714 Fax: 9505-6430 kp at sdsonline.net -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From paul.hartland at fsmail.net Wed Feb 13 08:56:37 2008 From: paul.hartland at fsmail.net (paul.hartland at fsmail.net) Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2008 15:56:37 +0100 (CET) Subject: [AccessD] Test - Can Anyone See This Message-ID: <15274568.819511202914597737.JavaMail.www@wwinf3006> To all, Sorry about this, but I have sent a couple of questions over the last couple of weeks, but have yet to see them appear on the list. Could someone email me at paul.hartland at fsmail.net if they see this please. Thank you. Paul Hartland paul.hartland at fsmail.net 07730 523179 From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com Wed Feb 13 08:45:14 2008 From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (jwcolby) Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2008 09:45:14 -0500 Subject: [AccessD] Locking form controls 2003 In-Reply-To: <00b401c86e4d$8c834750$0401a8c0@M90> References: <00b401c86e4d$8c834750$0401a8c0@M90> Message-ID: <00b501c86e4f$0bb23800$0401a8c0@M90> BTW, since a control that is not visible cannot have the focus, the same applies to setting a control to invisible. John W. Colby Colby Consulting www.ColbyConsulting.com -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of jwcolby Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2008 9:35 AM To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' Subject: Re: [AccessD] Locking form controls 2003 That is correct, sorry for the mis-statement. In order for a control to get the focus it has to be enabled. It CAN be locked and get the focus. In order to DISABLE a control it must NOT have the focus. Sorry about that. John W. Colby Colby Consulting www.ColbyConsulting.com -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gustav Brock Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2008 8:17 AM To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: Re: [AccessD] Locking form controls 2003 Hi John Isn't it Enabled you have in mind? For example, a button doesn't have a Locked property. But a textbox has and it can be set to True while the textbox has focus. /gustav >>> jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com 13-02-2008 14:00 >>> Additionally ALL controls have to NOT have the focus before they can be locked. By that I mean that you cannot lock a control while it has the focus. You have to set the focus to some other control, then lock the control. John W. Colby Colby Consulting www.ColbyConsulting.com -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim Lawrence Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2008 6:56 AM To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' Subject: Re: [AccessD] Locking form controls 2003 Hi Kath: Just off the top... some objects have to have focus before they can be set. Jim -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Kath Pelletti Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2008 7:56 PM To: Access D Normal List Subject: [AccessD] Locking form controls 2003 Help please gurus.......trying to develop a routine which will lock (or disable) controls on a form. (Access 2003) I am getting error 438 'Object doesn't support this property or method' on the line 'Select Case ctl.type'. Any idea why? I am using code I have used in 2000. Can I no longer say ctl.type? See code below: ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---- Code : Public Function LockControls(strformname As String) Dim frmIn As Form Dim strerrormsg As String Dim ctl As Control 'On Error GoTo Err_Handler Set frmIn = Forms(strformname) For Each ctl In frmIn.Controls Select Case ctl.Type 'error occurs on this line............ Case acTextBox: ctl.Locked = True End Select Next Normal_exit: DoCmd.SetWarnings True Exit Function Err_Handler: MsgBox "Error: [" & Err.Number & "] " & IIf(Len(strerrormsg) > 0, strerrormsg, Err.Description), vbCritical, "Error Message" Resume Normal_exit End Function ______________________________________ Kath Pelletti Software Design and Solutions Pty Ltd Ph: 9505-6714 Fax: 9505-6430 kp at sdsonline.net -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From dwaters at usinternet.com Wed Feb 13 09:09:25 2008 From: dwaters at usinternet.com (Dan Waters) Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2008 09:09:25 -0600 Subject: [AccessD] Test - Can Anyone See This In-Reply-To: <15274568.819511202914597737.JavaMail.www@wwinf3006> References: <15274568.819511202914597737.JavaMail.www@wwinf3006> Message-ID: <000001c86e52$6c0f3a10$0300a8c0@danwaters> I C U ! Dan -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of paul.hartland at fsmail.net Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2008 8:57 AM To: accessd Subject: [AccessD] Test - Can Anyone See This Importance: High To all, Sorry about this, but I have sent a couple of questions over the last couple of weeks, but have yet to see them appear on the list. Could someone email me at paul.hartland at fsmail.net if they see this please. Thank you. Paul Hartland paul.hartland at fsmail.net 07730 523179 -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From markamatte at hotmail.com Wed Feb 13 09:15:17 2008 From: markamatte at hotmail.com (Mark A Matte) Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2008 15:15:17 +0000 Subject: [AccessD] Test - Can Anyone See This In-Reply-To: <15274568.819511202914597737.JavaMail.www@wwinf3006> References: <15274568.819511202914597737.JavaMail.www@wwinf3006> Message-ID: I can see... > From: paul.hartland at fsmail.net > To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com > Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2008 15:56:37 +0100 > Subject: [AccessD] Test - Can Anyone See This > > To all, > > Sorry about this, but I have sent a couple of questions over the last couple of weeks, but have yet to see them appear on the list. Could someone email me at paul.hartland at fsmail.net if they see this please. > > Thank you. > > > Paul Hartland > paul.hartland at fsmail.net > 07730 523179 > -- > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com _________________________________________________________________ Shed those extra pounds with MSN and The Biggest Loser! http://biggestloser.msn.com/ From Gustav at cactus.dk Wed Feb 13 09:42:58 2008 From: Gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock) Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2008 16:42:58 +0100 Subject: [AccessD] Locking form controls 2003 Message-ID: Hi John It seems as if you are approaching a state of - ehh - total confusion ... An invisible button can very well be enabled and will accept a click or enter. In fact, that is an old trick to do magic when the user is tabbing around or clicking on a small graphic simulating a custom designed button. /gustav >>> jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com 13-02-2008 15:45 >>> BTW, since a control that is not visible cannot have the focus, the same applies to setting a control to invisible. From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com Wed Feb 13 09:49:04 2008 From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (jwcolby) Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2008 10:49:04 -0500 Subject: [AccessD] Test - Can Anyone See This In-Reply-To: <000001c86e52$6c0f3a10$0300a8c0@danwaters> References: <15274568.819511202914597737.JavaMail.www@wwinf3006> <000001c86e52$6c0f3a10$0300a8c0@danwaters> Message-ID: <00b801c86e57$f62996f0$0401a8c0@M90> I sent an email directly to his email address (as he requested) and it bounced back. It would seem that his email provider is off line. John W. Colby Colby Consulting www.ColbyConsulting.com -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Dan Waters Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2008 10:09 AM To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' Subject: Re: [AccessD] Test - Can Anyone See This I C U ! Dan -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of paul.hartland at fsmail.net Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2008 8:57 AM To: accessd Subject: [AccessD] Test - Can Anyone See This Importance: High To all, Sorry about this, but I have sent a couple of questions over the last couple of weeks, but have yet to see them appear on the list. Could someone email me at paul.hartland at fsmail.net if they see this please. Thank you. Paul Hartland paul.hartland at fsmail.net 07730 523179 -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From lembit.dbamail at t-online.de Wed Feb 13 10:00:37 2008 From: lembit.dbamail at t-online.de (Lembit Soobik) Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2008 17:00:37 +0100 Subject: [AccessD] Test - Can Anyone See This References: <15274568.819511202914597737.JavaMail.www@wwinf3006> Message-ID: <001001c86e59$930a2740$1800a8c0@s1800> I don't know if Anyone can, but I can see it. :) Lembit ----- Original Message ----- From: To: "accessd" Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2008 3:56 PM Subject: [AccessD] Test - Can Anyone See This > To all, > > Sorry about this, but I have sent a couple of questions over the last > couple of weeks, but have yet to see them appear on the list. Could > someone email me at paul.hartland at fsmail.net if they see this please. > > Thank you. > > > Paul Hartland > paul.hartland at fsmail.net > 07730 523179 > -- > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.20.4/1276 - Release Date: > 13.02.2008 09:41 > > From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com Wed Feb 13 10:08:07 2008 From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (jwcolby) Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2008 11:08:07 -0500 Subject: [AccessD] Locking form controls 2003 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <00b901c86e5a$9f60eaa0$0401a8c0@M90> LOL. Well then. I have been approaching a state of total confusion for years. It seems I have finally ARRIVED! I will just be quiet now. ;-) John W. Colby Colby Consulting www.ColbyConsulting.com -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gustav Brock Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2008 10:43 AM To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: Re: [AccessD] Locking form controls 2003 Hi John It seems as if you are approaching a state of - ehh - total confusion ... An invisible button can very well be enabled and will accept a click or enter. In fact, that is an old trick to do magic when the user is tabbing around or clicking on a small graphic simulating a custom designed button. /gustav >>> jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com 13-02-2008 15:45 >>> BTW, since a control that is not visible cannot have the focus, the same applies to setting a control to invisible. -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From accessd at shaw.ca Wed Feb 13 12:29:25 2008 From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence) Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2008 10:29:25 -0800 Subject: [AccessD] Locking form controls 2003 In-Reply-To: <00b001c86e40$5a7e7b60$0401a8c0@M90> References: <005201c86df4$67384d50$6401a8c0@DELLAPTOP> <00b001c86e40$5a7e7b60$0401a8c0@M90> Message-ID: Hi John: I meant the opposite... it was very late for me and the brain and fingers were not fully engaged... Jim -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of jwcolby Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2008 5:00 AM To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' Subject: Re: [AccessD] Locking form controls 2003 Additionally ALL controls have to NOT have the focus before they can be locked. By that I mean that you cannot lock a control while it has the focus. You have to set the focus to some other control, then lock the control. John W. Colby Colby Consulting www.ColbyConsulting.com -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim Lawrence Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2008 6:56 AM To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' Subject: Re: [AccessD] Locking form controls 2003 Hi Kath: Just off the top... some objects have to have focus before they can be set. Jim -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Kath Pelletti Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2008 7:56 PM To: Access D Normal List Subject: [AccessD] Locking form controls 2003 Help please gurus.......trying to develop a routine which will lock (or disable) controls on a form. (Access 2003) I am getting error 438 'Object doesn't support this property or method' on the line 'Select Case ctl.type'. Any idea why? I am using code I have used in 2000. Can I no longer say ctl.type? See code below: ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---- Code : Public Function LockControls(strformname As String) Dim frmIn As Form Dim strerrormsg As String Dim ctl As Control 'On Error GoTo Err_Handler Set frmIn = Forms(strformname) For Each ctl In frmIn.Controls Select Case ctl.Type 'error occurs on this line............ Case acTextBox: ctl.Locked = True End Select Next Normal_exit: DoCmd.SetWarnings True Exit Function Err_Handler: MsgBox "Error: [" & Err.Number & "] " & IIf(Len(strerrormsg) > 0, strerrormsg, Err.Description), vbCritical, "Error Message" Resume Normal_exit End Function ______________________________________ Kath Pelletti Software Design and Solutions Pty Ltd Ph: 9505-6714 Fax: 9505-6430 kp at sdsonline.net -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From lmrazek at lcm-res.com Wed Feb 13 12:33:07 2008 From: lmrazek at lcm-res.com (Lawrence Mrazek) Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2008 12:33:07 -0600 Subject: [AccessD] Word Mail Merge In-Reply-To: <00b901c86e5a$9f60eaa0$0401a8c0@M90> References: <00b901c86e5a$9f60eaa0$0401a8c0@M90> Message-ID: <004501c86e6e$e17aabb0$8b010a0a@lcmdv8000> Hi Folks: I realize this is a bit offtopic, but does anyone know if I can do the following with a mailmerge from Access to Word: I need to be able to print out a cover letter for a consumer, then up to 10 surveys (depends on the individual) linked to the consumer. Does word allow me to do this? Basically I'd like: Larry Mrazek LCM Research, Inc. www.lcm-res.com lmrazek at lcm-res.com ph. 314-432-5886 mobile: 314-496-1645 From miscellany at mvps.org Wed Feb 13 12:59:36 2008 From: miscellany at mvps.org (Steve Schapel) Date: Thu, 14 Feb 2008 07:59:36 +1300 Subject: [AccessD] Word Mail Merge In-Reply-To: <004501c86e6e$e17aabb0$8b010a0a@lcmdv8000> References: <00b901c86e5a$9f60eaa0$0401a8c0@M90> <004501c86e6e$e17aabb0$8b010a0a@lcmdv8000> Message-ID: <47B33E18.5090603@mvps.org> Lawrence, I wouldn't myself regard this as off-topic. I think the answer to your question is Yes. The basic concept of how I would do it is make a Query in Access which returns the data you wnat in the Word document(s), and then, from Word, create your merge document and set the Access query as the data source for the merge. Well, some versions of Word allow you to use an Access query directly as the data source, and some don't. Sometimes you have to use an Append Query to write the merge data to a temporary table, and then use that as the data source for the merge. Or alternatively use TransferText in Access to save the required data out to a text file (Word Merge format) which you can then use for the merge data source. Regards Steve Lawrence Mrazek wrote: > Hi Folks: > > I realize this is a bit offtopic, but does anyone know if I can do the > following with a mailmerge from Access to Word: > > I need to be able to print out a cover letter for a consumer, then up to 10 > surveys (depends on the individual) linked to the consumer. Does word allow > me to do this? Basically I'd like: > > Larry Mrazek > LCM Research, Inc. > www.lcm-res.com > lmrazek at lcm-res.com > ph. 314-432-5886 > mobile: 314-496-1645 > > From miscellany at mvps.org Wed Feb 13 13:01:08 2008 From: miscellany at mvps.org (Steve Schapel) Date: Thu, 14 Feb 2008 08:01:08 +1300 Subject: [AccessD] Word Mail Merge In-Reply-To: <004501c86e6e$e17aabb0$8b010a0a@lcmdv8000> References: <00b901c86e5a$9f60eaa0$0401a8c0@M90> <004501c86e6e$e17aabb0$8b010a0a@lcmdv8000> Message-ID: <47B33E74.6030107@mvps.org> Lawrence, You may also find this of interest: http://www.members.shaw.ca/AlbertKallal/msaccess/msaccess.html Scroll down to the "Super Easy Word Merge" section. Regards Steve Lawrence Mrazek wrote: > Hi Folks: > > I realize this is a bit offtopic, but does anyone know if I can do the > following with a mailmerge from Access to Word: > > I need to be able to print out a cover letter for a consumer, then up to 10 > surveys (depends on the individual) linked to the consumer. Does word allow > me to do this? Basically I'd like: > > Larry Mrazek > LCM Research, Inc. > www.lcm-res.com > lmrazek at lcm-res.com > ph. 314-432-5886 > mobile: 314-496-1645 > > From tinanfields at torchlake.com Wed Feb 13 15:35:51 2008 From: tinanfields at torchlake.com (Tina Norris Fields) Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2008 16:35:51 -0500 Subject: [AccessD] Test - Can Anyone See This In-Reply-To: <15274568.819511202914597737.JavaMail.www@wwinf3006> References: <15274568.819511202914597737.JavaMail.www@wwinf3006> Message-ID: <47B362B7.1080004@torchlake.com> Yup - I see your message. Tina paul.hartland at fsmail.net wrote: > To all, > > Sorry about this, but I have sent a couple of questions over the last couple of weeks, but have yet to see them appear on the list. Could someone email me at paul.hartland at fsmail.net if they see this please. > > Thank you. > > > Paul Hartland > paul.hartland at fsmail.net > 07730 523179 > From kp at sdsonline.net Wed Feb 13 16:55:33 2008 From: kp at sdsonline.net (Kath Pelletti) Date: Thu, 14 Feb 2008 09:55:33 +1100 Subject: [AccessD] Syntax for setting button with event procedure References: <000701c86e2a$0e85f140$2101a8c0@AB> Message-ID: <00b601c86e93$8aedd770$6401a8c0@DELLAPTOP> Thanks everybody for the advice - nearly there now..... This did the trick....MyPictureButton.OnClick = "[Event Procedure]" But I can't remember how to incorporate a variable form name into this line: If I use the real form name this works: Forms!frmrefcountries![Closebutton].OnClick = "[Event Procedure]" But my form name is strformname which gets passed into the routine. Two versions which don't work are: Forms!strformname![Closebutton].OnClick = "[Event Procedure]" Forms![]![Closebutton].OnClick = "[Event Procedure]" Kath ----- Original Message ----- From: "Asger Blond" To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'" Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2008 9:19 PM Subject: Re: [AccessD] Locking form control - Image control > To temporarily disable the Click-procedure use: > MyPictureButton.OnClick = "" > To reenable the Click-procedure use: > MyPictureButton.OnClick = "[Event Procedure]" > > HTH > Asger > > -----Oprindelig meddelelse----- > Fra: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] P? vegne af Kath Pelletti > Sendt: 13. februar 2008 05:09 > Til: Access D Normal List > Emne: [AccessD] Locking form control - Image control > > Different problem..... > > One of the controls on my form is the 'Add' button which the user clicks > to > add a new record (Image control because I have an icon image for add > buttons). > > The control type is acimage which does not have an enabled or locked > property. > > Is there a way I can temporarily remove it's 'On Click' property so the > user > cannot click and add a new record? > > tia > Kath > ______________________________________ > Kath Pelletti > Software Design and Solutions Pty Ltd > Ph: 9505-6714 > Fax: 9505-6430 > kp at sdsonline.net > -- > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > From kp at sdsonline.net Wed Feb 13 17:03:34 2008 From: kp at sdsonline.net (Kath Pelletti) Date: Thu, 14 Feb 2008 10:03:34 +1100 Subject: [AccessD] Locking form controls 2003 References: <005201c86df4$67384d50$6401a8c0@DELLAPTOP> <01d901c86e4c$3e32ddf0$8abea8c0@XPS> Message-ID: <00d801c86e94$a9f8d010$6401a8c0@DELLAPTOP> Jim - thanks. Using the tag property is a great idea...... Kath ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jim Dettman" To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'" Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2008 1:25 AM Subject: Re: [AccessD] Locking form controls 2003 > FWIW, see the code below. Besides checking for the section, you might > also want to put a tag in the tag property of each control as to whether > or > not it should be locked. What you'll find on many forms is that some > controls need to remain unlocked. In my case, my standard form handler > had > a control panel in the form header, which is why I did controls only in > the > detail section. > > And as John said, you need to have focus on another control before you > can > disable or lock a control. > > Note that the code below needs some cleanup (it's from my A2 days; what > can I say). The object variables should be set to nothing, etc., but > it > does work. > > Jim. > > Function StdLockForm(frm As Form, intState As Integer) > > 'Lock/unlock all the fields in the detail section of the form that are > enabled. > > Dim intL As Integer 'Generic loop counter > Dim intCount As Integer 'Number of controls on the form > > intCount = frm.Count 'Find out how many controls are on the > form > > On Error Resume Next > For intL = 0 To intCount - 1 'Step thru all controls on the form > If (frm(intL).Section = False) Then 'Don't do any control execpt those > in the detail section > If (frm(intL).Enabled = True) Then frm(intL).Locked = intState > 'Set 'Locked' property to proper state > End If > Next intL > On Error GoTo 0 > > End Function > > Call examples: > > Function LockForm(FormName As String) > > Dim frm As Form > > Set frm = Forms(FormName) > LockForm = StdLockForm(frm, True) > > End Function > > Function UnLockForm(FormName As String) > > Dim frm As Form > > Set frm = Forms(FormName) > UnLockForm = StdLockForm(frm, False) > > End Function > > -----Original Message----- > From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Kath Pelletti > Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2008 10:56 PM > To: Access D Normal List > Subject: [AccessD] Locking form controls 2003 > > Help please gurus.......trying to develop a routine which will lock (or > disable) controls on a form. (Access 2003) > > I am getting error 438 'Object doesn't support this property or method' on > the line 'Select Case ctl.type'. > > Any idea why? I am using code I have used in 2000. Can I no longer say > ctl.type? > > See code below: > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > ---- > > > Code : > > Public Function LockControls(strformname As String) > Dim frmIn As Form > Dim strerrormsg As String > Dim ctl As Control > 'On Error GoTo Err_Handler > > Set frmIn = Forms(strformname) > For Each ctl In frmIn.Controls > Select Case ctl.Type 'error > occurs on this line............ > Case acTextBox: ctl.Locked = True > End Select > Next > > Normal_exit: > DoCmd.SetWarnings True > Exit Function > > Err_Handler: > MsgBox "Error: [" & Err.Number & "] " & IIf(Len(strerrormsg) > 0, > strerrormsg, Err.Description), vbCritical, "Error Message" > Resume Normal_exit > End Function > > ______________________________________ > Kath Pelletti > Software Design and Solutions Pty Ltd > Ph: 9505-6714 > Fax: 9505-6430 > kp at sdsonline.net > -- > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > -- > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > From darren at activebilling.com.au Wed Feb 13 17:07:19 2008 From: darren at activebilling.com.au (Darren D) Date: Thu, 14 Feb 2008 10:07:19 +1100 Subject: [AccessD] OT RE: Rar vs winzip In-Reply-To: <026CF1C641DF4B7E89933D2D27642903@creativesystemdesigns.com> Message-ID: <200802132305.m1DN5TKC008609@databaseadvisors.com> Hi Jim You assume waaaaayyyy too much of me :-) I am a Luddite - Andy will concur Thanks anyway though Darren ----------------- T: 1300 301 731 -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim Lawrence Sent: Wednesday, 13 February 2008 10:48 PM To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' Subject: Re: [AccessD] OT RE: Rar vs winzip Hi Darren: I did not look at the code that closely but being in the business as long as you and I it should be of little difficulty to translate if we wanted to. Jim -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Darren D Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2008 3:57 PM To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' Subject: Re: [AccessD] OT RE: Rar vs winzip Hi Jim I can see the value and power in the algorithm link you posted Does anyone know of a VB equivalent? I know nothing about Delphi or how to 'convert' from Delphi to VB(A) Darren -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim Lawrence Sent: Wednesday, 13 February 2008 10:39 AM To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' Subject: Re: [AccessD] OT RE: Rar vs winzip Hi Arthur: There are only a limited number of compression algorithms and as far as I know they are all in the public domain, in one form or another (check out the open source community if you have any doubts.). You are only paying for the implementation and packaging now. I use to use and very much like LZH compression (http://www.sxlist.com/techref/language/delphi/swag/ARCHIVES0041.html) along with the PKZIP group of compression routines. Jim -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Arthur Fuller Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2008 1:53 PM To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving Subject: Re: [AccessD] OT RE: Rar vs winzip As a long-time user of winRAR, I did want to add one thing to this thread. It can generate standard Zip files too. If you right-click from the Explorer window, choose "add to archive" instead of automatically naming the file. A dialog comes up enabling you to switch from RAR to ZIP format. Arthur On Tue, Feb 12, 2008 at 12:38 PM, jwcolby wrote: > Yep, and that is precisely what happened. 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Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.20.4 - Release Date: 12/02/2008 12:00 AM From darren at activebilling.com.au Wed Feb 13 17:11:19 2008 From: darren at activebilling.com.au (Darren D) Date: Thu, 14 Feb 2008 10:11:19 +1100 Subject: [AccessD] Syntax for setting button with event procedure In-Reply-To: <00b601c86e93$8aedd770$6401a8c0@DELLAPTOP> Message-ID: <200802132309.m1DN9TPR010140@databaseadvisors.com> Hi Kath I think it is something like Forms("strSomeFormNameHere").[Closebutton].OnClick = "[Event Procedure]" DD -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Kath Pelletti Sent: Thursday, 14 February 2008 9:56 AM To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving Subject: Re: [AccessD] Syntax for setting button with event procedure Thanks everybody for the advice - nearly there now..... This did the trick....MyPictureButton.OnClick = "[Event Procedure]" But I can't remember how to incorporate a variable form name into this line: If I use the real form name this works: Forms!frmrefcountries![Closebutton].OnClick = "[Event Procedure]" But my form name is strformname which gets passed into the routine. Two versions which don't work are: Forms!strformname![Closebutton].OnClick = "[Event Procedure]" Forms![]![Closebutton].OnClick = "[Event Procedure]" Kath ----- Original Message ----- From: "Asger Blond" To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'" Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2008 9:19 PM Subject: Re: [AccessD] Locking form control - Image control > To temporarily disable the Click-procedure use: > MyPictureButton.OnClick = "" > To reenable the Click-procedure use: > MyPictureButton.OnClick = "[Event Procedure]" > > HTH > Asger > > -----Oprindelig meddelelse----- > Fra: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] P? vegne af Kath Pelletti > Sendt: 13. februar 2008 05:09 > Til: Access D Normal List > Emne: [AccessD] Locking form control - Image control > > Different problem..... > > One of the controls on my form is the 'Add' button which the user clicks > to > add a new record (Image control because I have an icon image for add > buttons). > > The control type is acimage which does not have an enabled or locked > property. > > Is there a way I can temporarily remove it's 'On Click' property so the > user > cannot click and add a new record? > > tia > Kath > ______________________________________ > Kath Pelletti > Software Design and Solutions Pty Ltd > Ph: 9505-6714 > Fax: 9505-6430 > kp at sdsonline.net > -- > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com No virus found in this incoming message. 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Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.20.4 - Release Date: 12/02/2008 12:00 AM From Darryl.Collins at coles.com.au Wed Feb 13 17:18:53 2008 From: Darryl.Collins at coles.com.au (Darryl Collins) Date: Thu, 14 Feb 2008 10:18:53 +1100 Subject: [AccessD] Syntax for setting button with event procedure Message-ID: <49DFE57FB126044B8A8B934E7AEA09ED09FD6F23@WPEXCH05.colesmyer.ad.cmltd.net.au> Kath, Try: In a regular form [Forms]![frm_FYP_APLID].Closebutton.OnClick = "[Event Procedure]" In a sub form [Forms]![frm_FYP_APLID].[frm_miniTL5].[Form].Closebutton.OnClick = "[Event Procedure]" I think that should work... cheers Darryl. -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Kath Pelletti Sent: Thursday, 14 February 2008 9:56 AM To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving Subject: Re: [AccessD] Syntax for setting button with event procedure Thanks everybody for the advice - nearly there now..... This did the trick....MyPictureButton.OnClick = "[Event Procedure]" But I can't remember how to incorporate a variable form name into this line: If I use the real form name this works: Forms!frmrefcountries![Closebutton].OnClick = "[Event Procedure]" But my form name is strformname which gets passed into the routine. Two versions which don't work are: Forms!strformname![Closebutton].OnClick = "[Event Procedure]" Forms![]![Closebutton].OnClick = "[Event Procedure]" Kath ----- Original Message ----- From: "Asger Blond" To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'" Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2008 9:19 PM Subject: Re: [AccessD] Locking form control - Image control > To temporarily disable the Click-procedure use: > MyPictureButton.OnClick = "" > To reenable the Click-procedure use: > MyPictureButton.OnClick = "[Event Procedure]" > > HTH > Asger > > -----Oprindelig meddelelse----- > Fra: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] P? vegne af Kath Pelletti > Sendt: 13. februar 2008 05:09 > Til: Access D Normal List > Emne: [AccessD] Locking form control - Image control > > Different problem..... > > One of the controls on my form is the 'Add' button which the user clicks > to > add a new record (Image control because I have an icon image for add > buttons). > > The control type is acimage which does not have an enabled or locked > property. > > Is there a way I can temporarily remove it's 'On Click' property so the > user > cannot click and add a new record? > > tia > Kath > ______________________________________ > Kath Pelletti > Software Design and Solutions Pty Ltd > Ph: 9505-6714 > Fax: 9505-6430 > kp at sdsonline.net > -- > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com This email and any attachments may contain privileged and confidential information and are intended for the named addressee only. 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Not to worry - I prefer Jim's idea of using the tag property to the way I was doing it so am off and running with that.... Mind you - it still would be good to know what I had wrong with my syntax there.... Kath ----- Original Message ----- From: "Darren D" To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'" Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2008 10:11 AM Subject: Re: [AccessD] Syntax for setting button with event procedure > Hi Kath > > I think it is something like > > Forms("strSomeFormNameHere").[Closebutton].OnClick = "[Event Procedure]" > > DD > -----Original Message----- > From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Kath Pelletti > Sent: Thursday, 14 February 2008 9:56 AM > To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving > Subject: Re: [AccessD] Syntax for setting button with event procedure > > Thanks everybody for the advice - nearly there now..... > This did the trick....MyPictureButton.OnClick = "[Event Procedure]" > > But I can't remember how to incorporate a variable form name into this > line: > If I use the real form name this works: > > Forms!frmrefcountries![Closebutton].OnClick = "[Event Procedure]" > > But my form name is strformname which gets passed into the routine. > > Two versions which don't work are: > > Forms!strformname![Closebutton].OnClick = "[Event Procedure]" > Forms![]![Closebutton].OnClick = "[Event Procedure]" > > Kath > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Asger Blond" > To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'" > > Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2008 9:19 PM > Subject: Re: [AccessD] Locking form control - Image control > > >> To temporarily disable the Click-procedure use: >> MyPictureButton.OnClick = "" >> To reenable the Click-procedure use: >> MyPictureButton.OnClick = "[Event Procedure]" >> >> HTH >> Asger >> >> -----Oprindelig meddelelse----- >> Fra: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com >> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] P? vegne af Kath Pelletti >> Sendt: 13. februar 2008 05:09 >> Til: Access D Normal List >> Emne: [AccessD] Locking form control - Image control >> >> Different problem..... >> >> One of the controls on my form is the 'Add' button which the user clicks >> to >> add a new record (Image control because I have an icon image for add >> buttons). >> >> The control type is acimage which does not have an enabled or locked >> property. >> >> Is there a way I can temporarily remove it's 'On Click' property so the >> user >> cannot click and add a new record? >> >> tia >> Kath >> ______________________________________ >> Kath Pelletti >> Software Design and Solutions Pty Ltd >> Ph: 9505-6714 >> Fax: 9505-6430 >> kp at sdsonline.net >> -- >> AccessD mailing list >> AccessD at databaseadvisors.com >> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd >> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> -- >> AccessD mailing list >> AccessD at databaseadvisors.com >> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd >> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com >> >> > > > -- > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.20.4 - Release Date: 12/02/2008 > 12:00 AM > > > No virus found in this outgoing message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.20.4 - Release Date: 12/02/2008 > 12:00 AM > > > > -- > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > From kp at sdsonline.net Wed Feb 13 17:45:25 2008 From: kp at sdsonline.net (Kath Pelletti) Date: Thu, 14 Feb 2008 10:45:25 +1100 Subject: [AccessD] Syntax for setting button with event procedure References: <49DFE57FB126044B8A8B934E7AEA09ED09FD6F23@WPEXCH05.colesmyer.ad.cmltd.net.au> Message-ID: <010401c86e9a$85265540$6401a8c0@DELLAPTOP> Hi Darryl - another Aussie? (Which state?) Thx for suggestion - my problem was getting the syntax right where the form name is a variable as opposed to a known form name....still haven't nutted that out. Annoying when you know you've done it before and forgotten something so basic..... Kath ----- Original Message ----- From: "Darryl Collins" To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving" Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2008 10:18 AM Subject: Re: [AccessD] Syntax for setting button with event procedure > Kath, > > Try: > In a regular form > [Forms]![frm_FYP_APLID].Closebutton.OnClick = "[Event Procedure]" > > In a sub form > [Forms]![frm_FYP_APLID].[frm_miniTL5].[Form].Closebutton.OnClick = "[Event > Procedure]" > > I think that should work... > > cheers > Darryl. > > -----Original Message----- > From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Kath Pelletti > Sent: Thursday, 14 February 2008 9:56 AM > To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving > Subject: Re: [AccessD] Syntax for setting button with event procedure > > > Thanks everybody for the advice - nearly there now..... > This did the trick....MyPictureButton.OnClick = "[Event Procedure]" > > But I can't remember how to incorporate a variable form name into this > line: > If I use the real form name this works: > > Forms!frmrefcountries![Closebutton].OnClick = "[Event Procedure]" > > But my form name is strformname which gets passed into the routine. > > Two versions which don't work are: > > Forms!strformname![Closebutton].OnClick = "[Event Procedure]" > Forms![]![Closebutton].OnClick = "[Event Procedure]" > > Kath > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Asger Blond" > To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'" > > Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2008 9:19 PM > Subject: Re: [AccessD] Locking form control - Image control > > >> To temporarily disable the Click-procedure use: >> MyPictureButton.OnClick = "" >> To reenable the Click-procedure use: >> MyPictureButton.OnClick = "[Event Procedure]" >> >> HTH >> Asger >> >> -----Oprindelig meddelelse----- >> Fra: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com >> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] P? vegne af Kath Pelletti >> Sendt: 13. februar 2008 05:09 >> Til: Access D Normal List >> Emne: [AccessD] Locking form control - Image control >> >> Different problem..... >> >> One of the controls on my form is the 'Add' button which the user clicks >> to >> add a new record (Image control because I have an icon image for add >> buttons). >> >> The control type is acimage which does not have an enabled or locked >> property. >> >> Is there a way I can temporarily remove it's 'On Click' property so the >> user >> cannot click and add a new record? >> >> tia >> Kath >> ______________________________________ >> Kath Pelletti >> Software Design and Solutions Pty Ltd >> Ph: 9505-6714 >> Fax: 9505-6430 >> kp at sdsonline.net >> -- >> AccessD mailing list >> AccessD at databaseadvisors.com >> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd >> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> -- >> AccessD mailing list >> AccessD at databaseadvisors.com >> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd >> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com >> >> > > > -- > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > This email and any attachments may contain privileged and confidential > information and are intended for the named addressee only. 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You can tell the Aussies and New Zelanders as they are usually up much earlier than the rest of the list ;) as for which state; "denial" and "frustration" seem to be where I am at most these days. hehehe, seriously, I live in Victoria, Melbourne - in deep south Oz. :) -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Kath Pelletti Sent: Thursday, 14 February 2008 10:45 AM To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving Subject: Re: [AccessD] Syntax for setting button with event procedure Hi Darryl - another Aussie? (Which state?) Thx for suggestion - my problem was getting the syntax right where the form name is a variable as opposed to a known form name....still haven't nutted that out. Annoying when you know you've done it before and forgotten something so basic..... Kath ----- Original Message ----- From: "Darryl Collins" To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving" Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2008 10:18 AM Subject: Re: [AccessD] Syntax for setting button with event procedure > Kath, > > Try: > In a regular form > [Forms]![frm_FYP_APLID].Closebutton.OnClick = "[Event Procedure]" > > In a sub form > [Forms]![frm_FYP_APLID].[frm_miniTL5].[Form].Closebutton.OnClick = "[Event > Procedure]" > > I think that should work... > > cheers > Darryl. > > -----Original Message----- > From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Kath Pelletti > Sent: Thursday, 14 February 2008 9:56 AM > To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving > Subject: Re: [AccessD] Syntax for setting button with event procedure > > > Thanks everybody for the advice - nearly there now..... > This did the trick....MyPictureButton.OnClick = "[Event Procedure]" > > But I can't remember how to incorporate a variable form name into this > line: > If I use the real form name this works: > > Forms!frmrefcountries![Closebutton].OnClick = "[Event Procedure]" > > But my form name is strformname which gets passed into the routine. > > Two versions which don't work are: > > Forms!strformname![Closebutton].OnClick = "[Event Procedure]" > Forms![]![Closebutton].OnClick = "[Event Procedure]" > > Kath > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Asger Blond" > To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'" > > Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2008 9:19 PM > Subject: Re: [AccessD] Locking form control - Image control > > >> To temporarily disable the Click-procedure use: >> MyPictureButton.OnClick = "" >> To reenable the Click-procedure use: >> MyPictureButton.OnClick = "[Event Procedure]" >> >> HTH >> Asger >> >> -----Oprindelig meddelelse----- >> Fra: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com >> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] P? vegne af Kath Pelletti >> Sendt: 13. februar 2008 05:09 >> Til: Access D Normal List >> Emne: [AccessD] Locking form control - Image control >> >> Different problem..... >> >> One of the controls on my form is the 'Add' button which the user clicks >> to >> add a new record (Image control because I have an icon image for add >> buttons). >> >> The control type is acimage which does not have an enabled or locked >> property. >> >> Is there a way I can temporarily remove it's 'On Click' property so the >> user >> cannot click and add a new record? >> >> tia >> Kath >> ______________________________________ >> Kath Pelletti >> Software Design and Solutions Pty Ltd >> Ph: 9505-6714 >> Fax: 9505-6430 >> kp at sdsonline.net >> -- >> AccessD mailing list >> AccessD at databaseadvisors.com >> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd >> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> -- >> AccessD mailing list >> AccessD at databaseadvisors.com >> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd >> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com >> >> > > > -- > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > This email and any attachments may contain privileged and confidential > information and are intended for the named addressee only. 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From darren at activebilling.com.au Wed Feb 13 18:04:26 2008 From: darren at activebilling.com.au (Darren D) Date: Thu, 14 Feb 2008 11:04:26 +1100 Subject: [AccessD] Syntax for setting button with event procedure In-Reply-To: <010201c86e9a$2855a6e0$6401a8c0@DELLAPTOP> Message-ID: <200802140002.m1E02dai002131@databaseadvisors.com> Hi Kath Yes long time no talk - I do hope all is well Sorry the strFormName does not have to be in quotes Try - Forms(strSomeFormNameHere).[Closebutton].OnClick = "[Event Procedure]" Works when I test it here I too prefer the TAG method and use it almost everywhere - That way I simply mark the controls relevant to an action with some text in the TAG - That way don't have to test for control type EG ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Dim ctl As Control If IsLoaded("frmSomeFormName") Then For Each ctl In Me.Controls If ctl.Tag = "CaneBeEnabled" Then ctl.Enabled = true End If Next End If ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Darren ----------------- T: 1300 301 731 -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Kath Pelletti Sent: Thursday, 14 February 2008 10:43 AM To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving Subject: Re: [AccessD] Syntax for setting button with event procedure Hi Darren - long time no talk! Unfortunately that throws an 'invalid qualifier' error...... Not to worry - I prefer Jim's idea of using the tag property to the way I was doing it so am off and running with that.... Mind you - it still would be good to know what I had wrong with my syntax there.... Kath ----- Original Message ----- From: "Darren D" To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'" Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2008 10:11 AM Subject: Re: [AccessD] Syntax for setting button with event procedure > Hi Kath > > I think it is something like > > Forms("strSomeFormNameHere").[Closebutton].OnClick = "[Event Procedure]" > > DD > -----Original Message----- > From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Kath Pelletti > Sent: Thursday, 14 February 2008 9:56 AM > To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving > Subject: Re: [AccessD] Syntax for setting button with event procedure > > Thanks everybody for the advice - nearly there now..... > This did the trick....MyPictureButton.OnClick = "[Event Procedure]" > > But I can't remember how to incorporate a variable form name into this > line: > If I use the real form name this works: > > Forms!frmrefcountries![Closebutton].OnClick = "[Event Procedure]" > > But my form name is strformname which gets passed into the routine. > > Two versions which don't work are: > > Forms!strformname![Closebutton].OnClick = "[Event Procedure]" > Forms![]![Closebutton].OnClick = "[Event Procedure]" > > Kath > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Asger Blond" > To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'" > > Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2008 9:19 PM > Subject: Re: [AccessD] Locking form control - Image control > > >> To temporarily disable the Click-procedure use: >> MyPictureButton.OnClick = "" >> To reenable the Click-procedure use: >> MyPictureButton.OnClick = "[Event Procedure]" >> >> HTH >> Asger >> >> -----Oprindelig meddelelse----- >> Fra: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com >> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] P? vegne af Kath Pelletti >> Sendt: 13. februar 2008 05:09 >> Til: Access D Normal List >> Emne: [AccessD] Locking form control - Image control >> >> Different problem..... >> >> One of the controls on my form is the 'Add' button which the user clicks >> to >> add a new record (Image control because I have an icon image for add >> buttons). >> >> The control type is acimage which does not have an enabled or locked >> property. >> >> Is there a way I can temporarily remove it's 'On Click' property so the >> user >> cannot click and add a new record? >> >> tia >> Kath >> ______________________________________ >> Kath Pelletti >> Software Design and Solutions Pty Ltd >> Ph: 9505-6714 >> Fax: 9505-6430 >> kp at sdsonline.net >> -- >> AccessD mailing list >> AccessD at databaseadvisors.com >> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd >> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> -- >> AccessD mailing list >> AccessD at databaseadvisors.com >> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd >> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com >> >> > > > -- > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.20.4 - Release Date: 12/02/2008 > 12:00 AM > > > No virus found in this outgoing message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.20.4 - Release Date: 12/02/2008 > 12:00 AM > > > > -- > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.20.4 - Release Date: 12/02/2008 12:00 AM No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.20.4 - Release Date: 12/02/2008 12:00 AM From kp at sdsonline.net Wed Feb 13 18:10:54 2008 From: kp at sdsonline.net (Kath Pelletti) Date: Thu, 14 Feb 2008 11:10:54 +1100 Subject: [AccessD] Syntax for setting button with event procedure References: <49DFE57FB126044B8A8B934E7AEA09ED09FD6F25@WPEXCH05.colesmyer.ad.cmltd.net.au> Message-ID: <011c01c86e9e$10fc08a0$6401a8c0@DELLAPTOP> surprising that it's so different in Excel..... So 2 Melbournians on the list (me too)......though many of us worldwide inhabit that state of frustration with vba sometimes.... Kath ----- Original Message ----- From: "Darryl Collins" To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving" Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2008 10:51 AM Subject: Re: [AccessD] Syntax for setting button with event procedure > "syntax right where the form name is a variable". Aaaah, I know how to do > that in Excel, still nutting out Access. Suprised at just how much > difference there is between Excel VBA and Access VBA. who would have > thought that?... > > hehe.. You can tell the Aussies and New Zelanders as they are usually up > much earlier than the rest of the list ;) > > as for which state; "denial" and "frustration" seem to be where I am at > most these days. hehehe, seriously, I live in Victoria, Melbourne - in > deep south Oz. :) > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Kath Pelletti > Sent: Thursday, 14 February 2008 10:45 AM > To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving > Subject: Re: [AccessD] Syntax for setting button with event procedure > > > Hi Darryl - another Aussie? (Which state?) > > Thx for suggestion - my problem was getting the syntax right where the > form > name is a variable as opposed to a known form name....still haven't nutted > that out. Annoying when you know you've done it before and forgotten > something so basic..... > > Kath > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Darryl Collins" > To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving" > > Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2008 10:18 AM > Subject: Re: [AccessD] Syntax for setting button with event procedure > > >> Kath, >> >> Try: >> In a regular form >> [Forms]![frm_FYP_APLID].Closebutton.OnClick = "[Event Procedure]" >> >> In a sub form >> [Forms]![frm_FYP_APLID].[frm_miniTL5].[Form].Closebutton.OnClick = >> "[Event >> Procedure]" >> >> I think that should work... >> >> cheers >> Darryl. >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com >> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Kath Pelletti >> Sent: Thursday, 14 February 2008 9:56 AM >> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving >> Subject: Re: [AccessD] Syntax for setting button with event procedure >> >> >> Thanks everybody for the advice - nearly there now..... >> This did the trick....MyPictureButton.OnClick = "[Event Procedure]" >> >> But I can't remember how to incorporate a variable form name into this >> line: >> If I use the real form name this works: >> >> Forms!frmrefcountries![Closebutton].OnClick = "[Event Procedure]" >> >> But my form name is strformname which gets passed into the routine. >> >> Two versions which don't work are: >> >> Forms!strformname![Closebutton].OnClick = "[Event Procedure]" >> Forms![]![Closebutton].OnClick = "[Event Procedure]" >> >> Kath >> >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Asger Blond" >> To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'" >> >> Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2008 9:19 PM >> Subject: Re: [AccessD] Locking form control - Image control >> >> >>> To temporarily disable the Click-procedure use: >>> MyPictureButton.OnClick = "" >>> To reenable the Click-procedure use: >>> MyPictureButton.OnClick = "[Event Procedure]" >>> >>> HTH >>> Asger >>> >>> -----Oprindelig meddelelse----- >>> Fra: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com >>> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] P? vegne af Kath Pelletti >>> Sendt: 13. februar 2008 05:09 >>> Til: Access D Normal List >>> Emne: [AccessD] Locking form control - Image control >>> >>> Different problem..... >>> >>> One of the controls on my form is the 'Add' button which the user clicks >>> to >>> add a new record (Image control because I have an icon image for add >>> buttons). >>> >>> The control type is acimage which does not have an enabled or locked >>> property. >>> >>> Is there a way I can temporarily remove it's 'On Click' property so the >>> user >>> cannot click and add a new record? >>> >>> tia >>> Kath >>> ______________________________________ >>> Kath Pelletti >>> Software Design and Solutions Pty Ltd >>> Ph: 9505-6714 >>> Fax: 9505-6430 >>> kp at sdsonline.net >>> -- >>> AccessD mailing list >>> AccessD at databaseadvisors.com >>> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd >>> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> AccessD mailing list >>> AccessD at databaseadvisors.com >>> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd >>> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com >>> >>> >> >> >> -- >> AccessD mailing list >> AccessD at databaseadvisors.com >> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd >> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com >> >> This email and any attachments may contain privileged and confidential >> information and are intended for the named addressee only. 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Any loss/damage incurred by using this material is > not the sender's responsibility. The sender's entire liability will be > limited to resupplying the material. > > -- > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > From stuart at lexacorp.com.pg Wed Feb 13 18:11:32 2008 From: stuart at lexacorp.com.pg (Stuart McLachlan) Date: Thu, 14 Feb 2008 10:11:32 +1000 Subject: [AccessD] Syntax for setting button with event procedure In-Reply-To: <49DFE57FB126044B8A8B934E7AEA09ED09FD6F25@WPEXCH05.colesmyer.ad.cmltd.net.au> References: <49DFE57FB126044B8A8B934E7AEA09ED09FD6F25@WPEXCH05.colesmyer.ad.cmltd.net.au> Message-ID: <47B413D4.10094.33CF0F43@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg> On 14 Feb 2008 at 10:51, Darryl Collins wrote: > > hehe.. You can tell the Aussies and New Zelanders as they are usually > up much earlier than the rest of the list ;) > Not forgetting little old me in PNG :-) Cheers, Stuart From kp at sdsonline.net Wed Feb 13 18:16:35 2008 From: kp at sdsonline.net (Kath Pelletti) Date: Thu, 14 Feb 2008 11:16:35 +1100 Subject: [AccessD] Syntax for setting button with event procedure References: <49DFE57FB126044B8A8B934E7AEA09ED09FD6F25@WPEXCH05.colesmyer.ad.cmltd.net.au> <47B413D4.10094.33CF0F43@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg> Message-ID: <013001c86e9e$dd0c0620$6401a8c0@DELLAPTOP> You're never forgotten Stuart! Kath ----- Original Message ----- From: "Stuart McLachlan" To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving" Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2008 11:11 AM Subject: Re: [AccessD] Syntax for setting button with event procedure > On 14 Feb 2008 at 10:51, Darryl Collins wrote: > >> >> hehe.. You can tell the Aussies and New Zelanders as they are usually >> up much earlier than the rest of the list ;) >> > > Not forgetting little old me in PNG :-) > > Cheers, > Stuart > > -- > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > From kp at sdsonline.net Wed Feb 13 18:17:56 2008 From: kp at sdsonline.net (Kath Pelletti) Date: Thu, 14 Feb 2008 11:17:56 +1100 Subject: [AccessD] Syntax for setting button with event procedure References: <200802140002.m1E02dai002131@databaseadvisors.com> Message-ID: <013801c86e9f$0ce133c0$6401a8c0@DELLAPTOP> You are absolutely right - that works. Thanks Kath ----- Original Message ----- From: "Darren D" To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'" Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2008 11:04 AM Subject: Re: [AccessD] Syntax for setting button with event procedure > Hi Kath > > Yes long time no talk - I do hope all is well > > Sorry the strFormName does not have to be in quotes > > Try - Forms(strSomeFormNameHere).[Closebutton].OnClick = "[Event > Procedure]" > > Works when I test it here > From dbdoug at gmail.com Wed Feb 13 20:43:26 2008 From: dbdoug at gmail.com (Doug Steele) Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2008 18:43:26 -0800 Subject: [AccessD] Access 2007/Vista weirdness Message-ID: <4dd71a0c0802131843x62616720u952b739e564b7134@mail.gmail.com> Hello All: I have a client who is getting the error 'The setting you entered isn't valid for this property' on the following code: Private Sub ShipQty_GotFocus() ShipQty.SelLength = Len(ShipQty) End Sub ShipQty is a bound textbox; the bound field is numeric and is never null. This happens on two different machines with Windows Vista/Office 2007 running a db in Access 2007 format. His other machines running Windows XP, Access 2003 and the same database in Access 2003 format have no problem. I have not been able to reproduce the problem in Access 2007 running under Windows XP. Any comments would be appreciated... Doug Steele From stuart at lexacorp.com.pg Wed Feb 13 21:16:26 2008 From: stuart at lexacorp.com.pg (Stuart McLachlan) Date: Thu, 14 Feb 2008 13:16:26 +1000 Subject: [AccessD] Access 2007/Vista weirdness In-Reply-To: <4dd71a0c0802131843x62616720u952b739e564b7134@mail.gmail.com> References: <4dd71a0c0802131843x62616720u952b739e564b7134@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <47B43F2A.2450.34785648@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg> I'd guess it is having difficulty deciding whether ShipQty refers to the TextBox or the Numeric Field. That's the problem with controls defaulting to the same name as their underlying data. Try renaming the textbaox. On 13 Feb 2008 at 18:43, Doug Steele wrote: > Hello All: > > I have a client who is getting the error 'The setting you entered isn't > valid for this property' on the following code: > > Private Sub ShipQty_GotFocus() > ShipQty.SelLength = Len(ShipQty) > End Sub > > ShipQty is a bound textbox; the bound field is numeric and is never null. > > This happens on two different machines with Windows Vista/Office 2007 > running a db in Access 2007 format. His other machines running Windows XP, > Access 2003 and the same database in Access 2003 format have no problem. I > have not been able to reproduce the problem in Access 2007 running under > Windows XP. > > Any comments would be appreciated... > > Doug Steele > -- > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From darren at activebilling.com.au Wed Feb 13 22:11:59 2008 From: darren at activebilling.com.au (Darren D) Date: Thu, 14 Feb 2008 15:11:59 +1100 Subject: [AccessD] A2003:Copying Files-Tricky Message-ID: <200802140410.m1E4A5vm004522@databaseadvisors.com> Hi All I have a tricky question - at least it's tricky for me to solve I have a field in a table where suffixes and prefixes for files are stored in a field called "Possible Matches" Trouble is - it's only one field and the possible prefixes and Suffixes are separated by SemiColons So we may have XML;DOC;TXT;123 etc representing possible Suffix/Prefix What I want to do is write a file copy routine that looks for any occurrence of the strings above in any file name in a given location And I want that routine to copy any occurrence of the file/s it finds with the "Possible Matches" in its name to another folder EG say I have File1.TXT, File2.DOC, 123.PDF, My.INI in the root folder of C:\ I want the routine to find the txt, doc and pdf files and copy them from the root folder of C: to a location but ignore the ini As neither 'INI' nor 'My' (My.INI) is in the "Possible Matches" field The file copy stuff I am familiar with but I think the routine would have to Some other things I am not so familiar with EG PsuedoCode/WorkFlow A Count the items in "Possible Matches" by counting the SemiColons perhaps using InStr (Is that the correct function?) B loop the number of times InStr finds a SemiColon C For each loop build a search string - In this EG "C:\" & "*TXT*" or "C:\" &"*DOC*" etc D The copy every occurrence of "C:\" & "*TXT*" or "C:\" &"*DOC*" etc to the desired destination (This bit I can do) And so on Am I on the right track with the PsuedoCode/WorkFlow? Make sense? Any suggestions? Many thanks in advance DD No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.20.4/1277 - Release Date: 13/02/2008 8:00 PM From accessd at shaw.ca Thu Feb 14 00:34:02 2008 From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence) Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2008 22:34:02 -0800 Subject: [AccessD] MDB on the web In-Reply-To: <47B33E74.6030107@mvps.org> References: <00b901c86e5a$9f60eaa0$0401a8c0@M90> <004501c86e6e$e17aabb0$8b010a0a@lcmdv8000> <47B33E74.6030107@mvps.org> Message-ID: <6B41564DC69B46C1B4D0D0978390E2B6@creativesystemdesigns.com> Hi All: What connection method and code do you use to connect to an MDB DB on your web sites? (I have only used MS SQL in the past and that is fairly straight forward.) My client had originally hard coded the MDB location in a Global file variable and used the DSN-less Database Connection method but that will not work now that he is planning on migrating to a public internet hosting company. Is there a way to pre-setup an ODBC Database Connection that would work on any location? Any insights and coding samples would be greatly appreciated. TIA Jim From stuart at lexacorp.com.pg Thu Feb 14 00:34:33 2008 From: stuart at lexacorp.com.pg (Stuart McLachlan) Date: Thu, 14 Feb 2008 16:34:33 +1000 Subject: [AccessD] A2003:Copying Files-Tricky In-Reply-To: <200802140410.m1E4A5vm004522@databaseadvisors.com> References: <200802140410.m1E4A5vm004522@databaseadvisors.com> Message-ID: <47B46D99.23941.352DE5B7@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg> Take a look at the Split() function. Dim PosMAtches() as String PosMatches() = Split([Possible matches],";") For loopcount = 0 to Ubound(PosMatches()) StrSearch = "C:\*." & PosMatches(loopcount) .... Next On 14 Feb 2008 at 15:11, Darren D wrote: > Hi All > > I have a tricky question - at least it's tricky for me to solve > > I have a field in a table where suffixes and prefixes for files are stored in a > field called "Possible Matches" > > > > Trouble is - it's only one field and the possible prefixes and Suffixes are > separated by SemiColons > > So we may have XML;DOC;TXT;123 etc representing possible Suffix/Prefix > > > > What I want to do is write a file copy routine that looks for any occurrence of > the strings above in any file name in a given location > > And I want that routine to copy any occurrence of the file/s it finds with the > "Possible Matches" in its name to another folder > > > > EG say I have File1.TXT, File2.DOC, 123.PDF, My.INI in the root folder of C:\ > > > > I want the routine to find the txt, doc and pdf files and copy them from the > root folder of C: to a location but ignore the ini > > As neither 'INI' nor 'My' (My.INI) is in the "Possible Matches" field > > > > The file copy stuff I am familiar with but I think the routine would have to > > Some other things I am not so familiar with > > EG PsuedoCode/WorkFlow > > A Count the items in "Possible Matches" by counting the SemiColons > perhaps using InStr (Is that the correct function?) > > B loop the number of times InStr finds a SemiColon > > C For each loop build a search string - In this EG "C:\" & "*TXT*" or > "C:\" &"*DOC*" etc > > D The copy every occurrence of "C:\" & "*TXT*" or "C:\" &"*DOC*" etc to > the desired destination (This bit I can do) And so on > > > > Am I on the right track with the PsuedoCode/WorkFlow? > > > > Make sense? > > > > Any suggestions? > > > > Many thanks in advance > > > > DD > > > No virus found in this outgoing message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.20.4/1277 - Release Date: 13/02/2008 8:00 > PM > > > -- > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From andy at minstersystems.co.uk Thu Feb 14 01:15:15 2008 From: andy at minstersystems.co.uk (Andy Lacey) Date: Thu, 14 Feb 2008 07:15:15 -0000 Subject: [AccessD] OT RE: Rar vs winzip In-Reply-To: <200802132305.m1DN5TKC008609@databaseadvisors.com> Message-ID: <017b01c86ed9$59ace200$1b738552@minster33c3r25> False modesty mate. You're waaaaayyyy smarter than you pretend. -- Andy Lacey http://www.minstersystems.co.uk >-----Original Message----- >From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com >[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Darren D >Sent: 13 February 2008 23:07 >To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' >Subject: Re: [AccessD] OT RE: Rar vs winzip > > >Hi Jim > >You assume waaaaayyyy too much of me :-) > >I am a Luddite - Andy will concur > >Thanks anyway though > >Darren >----------------- >T: 1300 301 731 >-----Original Message----- >From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com >[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim Lawrence >Sent: Wednesday, 13 February 2008 10:48 PM >To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' >Subject: Re: [AccessD] OT RE: Rar vs winzip > >Hi Darren: > >I did not look at the code that closely but being in the >business as long as you and I it should be of little >difficulty to translate if we wanted to. > >Jim > >-----Original Message----- >From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com >[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Darren D >Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2008 3:57 PM >To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' >Subject: Re: [AccessD] OT RE: Rar vs winzip > >Hi Jim > >I can see the value and power in the algorithm link you posted > >Does anyone know of a VB equivalent? > >I know nothing about Delphi or how to 'convert' from Delphi to VB(A) > >Darren >-----Original Message----- >From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com >[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim Lawrence >Sent: Wednesday, 13 February 2008 10:39 AM >To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' >Subject: Re: [AccessD] OT RE: Rar vs winzip > >Hi Arthur: > >There are only a limited number of compression algorithms and >as far as I know they are all in the public domain, in one >form or another (check out the open source community if you >have any doubts.). You are only paying for the implementation >and packaging now. > >I use to use and very much like LZH compression >(http://www.sxlist.com/techref/language/delphi/swag/ARCHIVES004 >1.html) along with the PKZIP group of compression routines. > >Jim > >-----Original Message----- >From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com >[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of >Arthur Fuller >Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2008 1:53 PM >To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving >Subject: Re: [AccessD] OT RE: Rar vs winzip > >As a long-time user of winRAR, I did want to add one thing to >this thread. It can generate standard Zip files too. If you >right-click from the Explorer window, choose "add to archive" >instead of automatically naming the file. A dialog comes up >enabling you to switch from RAR to ZIP format. > >Arthur > >On Tue, Feb 12, 2008 at 12:38 PM, jwcolby >wrote: > >> Yep, and that is precisely what happened. FAST though. >> >> >-- >AccessD mailing list >AccessD at databaseadvisors.com >http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd >Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > >-- >AccessD mailing list >AccessD at databaseadvisors.com >http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd >Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > >No virus found in this incoming message. >Checked by AVG Free Edition. >Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.20.4/1275 - Release >Date: 12/02/2008 3:20 PM > > >No virus found in this outgoing message. >Checked by AVG Free Edition. >Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.20.4/1275 - Release >Date: 12/02/2008 3:20 PM > > >-- >AccessD mailing list >AccessD at databaseadvisors.com >http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd >Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > >-- >AccessD mailing list >AccessD at databaseadvisors.com >http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd >Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > >No virus found in this incoming message. >Checked by AVG Free Edition. >Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.20.4/1275 - Release >Date: 12/02/2008 3:20 PM > > >No virus found in this outgoing message. >Checked by AVG Free Edition. >Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.20.4 - Release Date: >12/02/2008 12:00 AM > > >-- >AccessD mailing list >AccessD at databaseadvisors.com >http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd >Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > From andy at minstersystems.co.uk Thu Feb 14 01:17:00 2008 From: andy at minstersystems.co.uk (Andy Lacey) Date: Thu, 14 Feb 2008 07:17:00 -0000 Subject: [AccessD] Syntax for setting button with event procedure In-Reply-To: <013801c86e9f$0ce133c0$6401a8c0@DELLAPTOP> Message-ID: <017c01c86ed9$977a9190$1b738552@minster33c3r25> Blimey, an antipodean love-in going on here. -- Andy Lacey http://www.minstersystems.co.uk >-----Original Message----- >From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com >[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of >Kath Pelletti >Sent: 14 February 2008 00:18 >To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving >Subject: Re: [AccessD] Syntax for setting button with event procedure > > >You are absolutely right - that works. Thanks > >Kath > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Darren D" >To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'" > >Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2008 11:04 AM >Subject: Re: [AccessD] Syntax for setting button with event procedure > > >> Hi Kath >> >> Yes long time no talk - I do hope all is well >> >> Sorry the strFormName does not have to be in quotes >> >> Try - Forms(strSomeFormNameHere).[Closebutton].OnClick = "[Event >> Procedure]" >> >> Works when I test it here >> > > >-- >AccessD mailing list >AccessD at databaseadvisors.com >http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd >Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > From max.wanadoo at gmail.com Thu Feb 14 01:26:51 2008 From: max.wanadoo at gmail.com (Max Wanadoo) Date: Thu, 14 Feb 2008 07:26:51 -0000 Subject: [AccessD] Access 2007/Vista weirdness In-Reply-To: <4dd71a0c0802131843x62616720u952b739e564b7134@mail.gmail.com> References: <4dd71a0c0802131843x62616720u952b739e564b7134@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <002201c86eda$f84645e0$8119fea9@LTVM> Doug, Len() only applies to string. just remove it. ShipQty.SelLength = Me!shipQty Max -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Doug Steele Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2008 2:43 AM To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: [AccessD] Access 2007/Vista weirdness Hello All: I have a client who is getting the error 'The setting you entered isn't valid for this property' on the following code: Private Sub ShipQty_GotFocus() ShipQty.SelLength = Len(ShipQty) End Sub ShipQty is a bound textbox; the bound field is numeric and is never null. This happens on two different machines with Windows Vista/Office 2007 running a db in Access 2007 format. His other machines running Windows XP, Access 2003 and the same database in Access 2003 format have no problem. I have not been able to reproduce the problem in Access 2007 running under Windows XP. Any comments would be appreciated... Doug Steele -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From Gustav at cactus.dk Thu Feb 14 02:11:34 2008 From: Gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock) Date: Thu, 14 Feb 2008 09:11:34 +0100 Subject: [AccessD] Access 2007/Vista weirdness Message-ID: Hi Doug As Stuart mentions, you probably assumes to much. Try to be more explicit: Private Sub ShipQty_GotFocus() Dim txt As TextBox Set txt = Me!ShipQty txt.SelLength = Len(txt.Text) Set txt = Nothing End Sub If that works you may be able to reduce it to: Private Sub ShipQty_GotFocus() With Me!ShipQty .SelLength = Len(.Text) End With End Sub /gustav >>> dbdoug at gmail.com 14-02-2008 03:43 >>> Hello All: I have a client who is getting the error 'The setting you entered isn't valid for this property' on the following code: Private Sub ShipQty_GotFocus() ShipQty.SelLength = Len(ShipQty) End Sub ShipQty is a bound textbox; the bound field is numeric and is never null. This happens on two different machines with Windows Vista/Office 2007 running a db in Access 2007 format. His other machines running Windows XP, Access 2003 and the same database in Access 2003 format have no problem. I have not been able to reproduce the problem in Access 2007 running under Windows XP. Any comments would be appreciated... Doug Steele From Gustav at cactus.dk Thu Feb 14 02:24:00 2008 From: Gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock) Date: Thu, 14 Feb 2008 09:24:00 +0100 Subject: [AccessD] MDB on the web Message-ID: Hi Jim The short answer is none. If at all possible it will not be reliable as the connection to the site easily can be lost. The recommended method is to use a database engine like SQL Server or MySQL which at most decent hosting companies is available for a fair if not low additional cost. Then connect to that. The simple method is to use ODBC, and - if the database is moved to another host - all you need to do is to change the IP address of the connection. /gustav >>> accessd at shaw.ca 14-02-2008 07:34 >>> Hi All: What connection method and code do you use to connect to an MDB DB on your web sites? (I have only used MS SQL in the past and that is fairly straight forward.) My client had originally hard coded the MDB location in a Global file variable and used the DSN-less Database Connection method but that will not work now that he is planning on migrating to a public internet hosting company. Is there a way to pre-setup an ODBC Database Connection that would work on any location? Any insights and coding samples would be greatly appreciated. TIA Jim From accessd at shaw.ca Thu Feb 14 02:55:09 2008 From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence) Date: Thu, 14 Feb 2008 00:55:09 -0800 Subject: [AccessD] MDB on the web In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <86306C1049AC4FEABC3DF2278B26193B@creativesystemdesigns.com> Thanks Gustav for the in sites to sites. I knew that an MDB DB for a web site would be a temp fix and maybe it is the time to see if the client is willing to pay for migration to MS SQL... Jim -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gustav Brock Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2008 12:24 AM To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: Re: [AccessD] MDB on the web Hi Jim The short answer is none. If at all possible it will not be reliable as the connection to the site easily can be lost. The recommended method is to use a database engine like SQL Server or MySQL which at most decent hosting companies is available for a fair if not low additional cost. Then connect to that. The simple method is to use ODBC, and - if the database is moved to another host - all you need to do is to change the IP address of the connection. /gustav >>> accessd at shaw.ca 14-02-2008 07:34 >>> Hi All: What connection method and code do you use to connect to an MDB DB on your web sites? (I have only used MS SQL in the past and that is fairly straight forward.) My client had originally hard coded the MDB location in a Global file variable and used the DSN-less Database Connection method but that will not work now that he is planning on migrating to a public internet hosting company. Is there a way to pre-setup an ODBC Database Connection that would work on any location? Any insights and coding samples would be greatly appreciated. TIA Jim -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From Gustav at cactus.dk Thu Feb 14 03:04:58 2008 From: Gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock) Date: Thu, 14 Feb 2008 10:04:58 +0100 Subject: [AccessD] MDB on the web Message-ID: Hi Jim Well, if you are able to use a standard ODBC connection, the database converter wizard in Access will do the routine work for you creating the tables in the server, copying the data, and relinking to the new source. Then you may need to modify some queries in the app with the parameter dbSeeChanges - that may all that is needed to do. /gustav >>> accessd at shaw.ca 14-02-2008 09:55 >>> Thanks Gustav for the in sites to sites. I knew that an MDB DB for a web site would be a temp fix and maybe it is the time to see if the client is willing to pay for migration to MS SQL... Jim -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gustav Brock Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2008 12:24 AM To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: Re: [AccessD] MDB on the web Hi Jim The short answer is none. If at all possible it will not be reliable as the connection to the site easily can be lost. The recommended method is to use a database engine like SQL Server or MySQL which at most decent hosting companies is available for a fair if not low additional cost. Then connect to that. The simple method is to use ODBC, and - if the database is moved to another host - all you need to do is to change the IP address of the connection. /gustav >>> accessd at shaw.ca 14-02-2008 07:34 >>> Hi All: What connection method and code do you use to connect to an MDB DB on your web sites? (I have only used MS SQL in the past and that is fairly straight forward.) My client had originally hard coded the MDB location in a Global file variable and used the DSN-less Database Connection method but that will not work now that he is planning on migrating to a public internet hosting company. Is there a way to pre-setup an ODBC Database Connection that would work on any location? Any insights and coding samples would be greatly appreciated. TIA Jim From DWUTKA at Marlow.com Thu Feb 14 09:23:59 2008 From: DWUTKA at Marlow.com (Drew Wutka) Date: Thu, 14 Feb 2008 09:23:59 -0600 Subject: [AccessD] MDB on the web In-Reply-To: <6B41564DC69B46C1B4D0D0978390E2B6@creativesystemdesigns.com> Message-ID: Why won't a DSN-less connection work? You just have to know where the database actually is on the hosted server. You can find this with (I think) Server.Path. Drew -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim Lawrence Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2008 12:34 AM To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' Subject: [AccessD] MDB on the web Hi All: What connection method and code do you use to connect to an MDB DB on your web sites? (I have only used MS SQL in the past and that is fairly straight forward.) My client had originally hard coded the MDB location in a Global file variable and used the DSN-less Database Connection method but that will not work now that he is planning on migrating to a public internet hosting company. Is there a way to pre-setup an ODBC Database Connection that would work on any location? Any insights and coding samples would be greatly appreciated. TIA Jim -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com The information contained in this transmission is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain II-VI Proprietary and/or II-VI BusinessSensitve material. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender immediately and destroy the material in its entirety, whether electronic or hard copy. You are notified that any review, retransmission, copying, disclosure, dissemination, or other use of, or taking of any action in reliance upon this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient is prohibited. From shamil at users.mns.ru Thu Feb 14 11:50:58 2008 From: shamil at users.mns.ru (Shamil Salakhetdinov) Date: Thu, 14 Feb 2008 20:50:58 +0300 Subject: [AccessD] MDB on the web In-Reply-To: <6B41564DC69B46C1B4D0D0978390E2B6@creativesystemdesigns.com> Message-ID: <001801c86f32$28191700$6501a8c0@nant> Hi Jim, If: - your (client's) mdb is local to the web app and - you develop ASP.NET 2.0 web apps Then you can use relative references to MS Access mdb within .aspx web pages like that: References: <6B41564DC69B46C1B4D0D0978390E2B6@creativesystemdesigns.com> <001801c86f32$28191700$6501a8c0@nant> Message-ID: <9F8C27A3E5974EB8B08FC571097535F3@creativesystemdesigns.com> Hi Shamil: I will try and convince the client to go MS SQL... speed, reliability and features. Jim -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Shamil Salakhetdinov Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2008 9:51 AM To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' Subject: Re: [AccessD] MDB on the web Hi Jim, If: - your (client's) mdb is local to the web app and - you develop ASP.NET 2.0 web apps Then you can use relative references to MS Access mdb within .aspx web pages like that: References: <6B41564DC69B46C1B4D0D0978390E2B6@creativesystemdesigns.com> Message-ID: Hi Drew: Some other people who have been using that type of system have had some data corruption when the hits rates increased. It may have nothing to do with the use 'Server.MapPath("/MyDatabase.mdb")' or it may be just the MDB or the connection type used. Maybe it might be worth moving to MS SQL Express... the initial price is right??? Jim -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Drew Wutka Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2008 7:24 AM To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving Subject: Re: [AccessD] MDB on the web Why won't a DSN-less connection work? You just have to know where the database actually is on the hosted server. You can find this with (I think) Server.Path. Drew -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim Lawrence Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2008 12:34 AM To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' Subject: [AccessD] MDB on the web Hi All: What connection method and code do you use to connect to an MDB DB on your web sites? (I have only used MS SQL in the past and that is fairly straight forward.) My client had originally hard coded the MDB location in a Global file variable and used the DSN-less Database Connection method but that will not work now that he is planning on migrating to a public internet hosting company. Is there a way to pre-setup an ODBC Database Connection that would work on any location? Any insights and coding samples would be greatly appreciated. TIA Jim -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com The information contained in this transmission is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain II-VI Proprietary and/or II-VI BusinessSensitve material. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender immediately and destroy the material in its entirety, whether electronic or hard copy. You are notified that any review, retransmission, copying, disclosure, dissemination, or other use of, or taking of any action in reliance upon this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient is prohibited. -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From accessd at shaw.ca Thu Feb 14 14:59:41 2008 From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence) Date: Thu, 14 Feb 2008 12:59:41 -0800 Subject: [AccessD] MDB on the web In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hi Gustav: If they could be guaranteed a stable environment but I am not sure they would be able to have that with a public hosting provider... Server.MapPath("/mydatabase.mdb") might work but maybe MS SQL Express is a better solution. Jim -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gustav Brock Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2008 1:05 AM To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: Re: [AccessD] MDB on the web Hi Jim Well, if you are able to use a standard ODBC connection, the database converter wizard in Access will do the routine work for you creating the tables in the server, copying the data, and relinking to the new source. Then you may need to modify some queries in the app with the parameter dbSeeChanges - that may all that is needed to do. /gustav >>> accessd at shaw.ca 14-02-2008 09:55 >>> Thanks Gustav for the in sites to sites. I knew that an MDB DB for a web site would be a temp fix and maybe it is the time to see if the client is willing to pay for migration to MS SQL... Jim -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gustav Brock Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2008 12:24 AM To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: Re: [AccessD] MDB on the web Hi Jim The short answer is none. If at all possible it will not be reliable as the connection to the site easily can be lost. The recommended method is to use a database engine like SQL Server or MySQL which at most decent hosting companies is available for a fair if not low additional cost. Then connect to that. The simple method is to use ODBC, and - if the database is moved to another host - all you need to do is to change the IP address of the connection. /gustav >>> accessd at shaw.ca 14-02-2008 07:34 >>> Hi All: What connection method and code do you use to connect to an MDB DB on your web sites? (I have only used MS SQL in the past and that is fairly straight forward.) My client had originally hard coded the MDB location in a Global file variable and used the DSN-less Database Connection method but that will not work now that he is planning on migrating to a public internet hosting company. Is there a way to pre-setup an ODBC Database Connection that would work on any location? Any insights and coding samples would be greatly appreciated. TIA Jim -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From DWUTKA at Marlow.com Thu Feb 14 15:40:20 2008 From: DWUTKA at Marlow.com (Drew Wutka) Date: Thu, 14 Feb 2008 15:40:20 -0600 Subject: [AccessD] MDB on the web In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Data corruption? I guess it depends on the hit rates. Both our Intranet and our Internet sites are powered by Access .mdbs (several of them). We get almost 500 users a day on our website, and we have a little over 200 users in house for our Intranet. I have NEVER had a corrupt database on ANY of these databases. I have only ever had corruption on .mdbs that have a non-web interface accessed across a network. (with one exception involving a multi-threading experiment) Now, one difference may also be the webserver itself. An apache web server (which I believe runs on Linux/Unix) may have issues with an .mdb. I run strictly IIS servers. Drew -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim Lawrence Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2008 2:55 PM To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' Subject: Re: [AccessD] MDB on the web Hi Drew: Some other people who have been using that type of system have had some data corruption when the hits rates increased. It may have nothing to do with the use 'Server.MapPath("/MyDatabase.mdb")' or it may be just the MDB or the connection type used. Maybe it might be worth moving to MS SQL Express... the initial price is right??? Jim -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Drew Wutka Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2008 7:24 AM To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving Subject: Re: [AccessD] MDB on the web Why won't a DSN-less connection work? You just have to know where the database actually is on the hosted server. You can find this with (I think) Server.Path. Drew -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim Lawrence Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2008 12:34 AM To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' Subject: [AccessD] MDB on the web Hi All: What connection method and code do you use to connect to an MDB DB on your web sites? (I have only used MS SQL in the past and that is fairly straight forward.) My client had originally hard coded the MDB location in a Global file variable and used the DSN-less Database Connection method but that will not work now that he is planning on migrating to a public internet hosting company. Is there a way to pre-setup an ODBC Database Connection that would work on any location? Any insights and coding samples would be greatly appreciated. TIA Jim -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com The information contained in this transmission is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain II-VI Proprietary and/or II-VI BusinessSensitve material. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender immediately and destroy the material in its entirety, whether electronic or hard copy. 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You are notified that any review, retransmission, copying, disclosure, dissemination, or other use of, or taking of any action in reliance upon this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient is prohibited. From darren at activebilling.com.au Thu Feb 14 16:21:33 2008 From: darren at activebilling.com.au (Darren D) Date: Fri, 15 Feb 2008 09:21:33 +1100 Subject: [AccessD] Syntax for setting button with event procedure In-Reply-To: <017c01c86ed9$977a9190$1b738552@minster33c3r25> Message-ID: <200802142219.m1EMJnME027424@databaseadvisors.com> LOL That's because we are up earlier than you blokes :?) Can't wait for the one-dayer today - I know - Bah Humbug - It's not real cricket The One Dayer between Sri-Lanka and Oz last week at the SCG was awesome - love the SCG Will have my ABC Radio cast on today :-) Darren ----------------- -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Andy Lacey Sent: Thursday, 14 February 2008 6:17 PM To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' Subject: Re: [AccessD] Syntax for setting button with event procedure Blimey, an antipodean love-in going on here. -- Andy Lacey http://www.minstersystems.co.uk >-----Original Message----- >From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com >[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of >Kath Pelletti >Sent: 14 February 2008 00:18 >To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving >Subject: Re: [AccessD] Syntax for setting button with event procedure > > >You are absolutely right - that works. Thanks > >Kath > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Darren D" >To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'" > >Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2008 11:04 AM >Subject: Re: [AccessD] Syntax for setting button with event procedure > > >> Hi Kath >> >> Yes long time no talk - I do hope all is well >> >> Sorry the strFormName does not have to be in quotes >> >> Try - Forms(strSomeFormNameHere).[Closebutton].OnClick = "[Event >> Procedure]" >> >> Works when I test it here >> > > >-- >AccessD mailing list >AccessD at databaseadvisors.com >http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd >Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.20.4/1277 - Release Date: 13/02/2008 8:00 PM No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.20.5 - Release Date: 14/02/2008 12:00 AM From stuart at lexacorp.com.pg Thu Feb 14 17:16:13 2008 From: stuart at lexacorp.com.pg (Stuart McLachlan) Date: Fri, 15 Feb 2008 09:16:13 +1000 Subject: [AccessD] OT Friday - was Re: Syntax for setting button with event procedure In-Reply-To: <200802142219.m1EMJnME027424@databaseadvisors.com> References: <017c01c86ed9$977a9190$1b738552@minster33c3r25>, <200802142219.m1EMJnME027424@databaseadvisors.com> Message-ID: <47B5585D.11038.38C3165F@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg> On 15 Feb 2008 at 9:21, Darren D wrote: > LOL > > That's because we are up earlier than you blokes :?) > > Can't wait for the one-dayer today - I know - Bah Humbug - It's not real cricket > > The One Dayer between Sri-Lanka and Oz last week at the SCG was awesome - love > the SCG As a Kiwi, I support two teams: 1. New Zealand 2. Whoever is playing against Australia From accessd at shaw.ca Thu Feb 14 17:23:39 2008 From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence) Date: Thu, 14 Feb 2008 15:23:39 -0800 Subject: [AccessD] MDB on the web In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hi Drew: That's good to know. Are all these intranet mdbs have web based interfaces? What type of connections do you use? adOpenUnspecified, adOpenForwardOnly, adOpenKeyset, adOpenDynamic or adOpenStatic? What session timeouts do you use or do you use any? Is the connection string set something like this?: Set constr = "Provider=Microsoft.Jet.OLEDB.4.0; Data Source=" & _ Server.MapPath("/mdb/mydatabase.mdb") Is there any reason why only MDBs have been used, other than "If it ain't broke don't fix it"? Would you have any other suggestions or recommendations? TIA Jim -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Drew Wutka Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2008 1:40 PM To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving Subject: Re: [AccessD] MDB on the web Data corruption? I guess it depends on the hit rates. Both our Intranet and our Internet sites are powered by Access .mdbs (several of them). We get almost 500 users a day on our website, and we have a little over 200 users in house for our Intranet. I have NEVER had a corrupt database on ANY of these databases. I have only ever had corruption on .mdbs that have a non-web interface accessed across a network. (with one exception involving a multi-threading experiment) Now, one difference may also be the webserver itself. An apache web server (which I believe runs on Linux/Unix) may have issues with an .mdb. I run strictly IIS servers. Drew -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim Lawrence Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2008 2:55 PM To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' Subject: Re: [AccessD] MDB on the web Hi Drew: Some other people who have been using that type of system have had some data corruption when the hits rates increased. It may have nothing to do with the use 'Server.MapPath("/MyDatabase.mdb")' or it may be just the MDB or the connection type used. Maybe it might be worth moving to MS SQL Express... the initial price is right??? Jim -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Drew Wutka Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2008 7:24 AM To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving Subject: Re: [AccessD] MDB on the web Why won't a DSN-less connection work? You just have to know where the database actually is on the hosted server. You can find this with (I think) Server.Path. Drew -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim Lawrence Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2008 12:34 AM To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' Subject: [AccessD] MDB on the web Hi All: What connection method and code do you use to connect to an MDB DB on your web sites? (I have only used MS SQL in the past and that is fairly straight forward.) My client had originally hard coded the MDB location in a Global file variable and used the DSN-less Database Connection method but that will not work now that he is planning on migrating to a public internet hosting company. Is there a way to pre-setup an ODBC Database Connection that would work on any location? Any insights and coding samples would be greatly appreciated. TIA Jim -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com The information contained in this transmission is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain II-VI Proprietary and/or II-VI BusinessSensitve material. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender immediately and destroy the material in its entirety, whether electronic or hard copy. You are notified that any review, retransmission, copying, disclosure, dissemination, or other use of, or taking of any action in reliance upon this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient is prohibited. -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com The information contained in this transmission is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain II-VI Proprietary and/or II-VI BusinessSensitve material. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender immediately and destroy the material in its entirety, whether electronic or hard copy. You are notified that any review, retransmission, copying, disclosure, dissemination, or other use of, or taking of any action in reliance upon this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient is prohibited. -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From Gustav at cactus.dk Thu Feb 14 17:20:49 2008 From: Gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock) Date: Fri, 15 Feb 2008 00:20:49 +0100 Subject: [AccessD] MDB on the web Message-ID: Hi Jim I may have misunderstood you. I thought you would link to a database at a hosting service from remote workstations. If you just need a backend database for a website where the mdb file itself resides on the webserver's LAN, that is what Drew is talking about, and I don't see why not to listen the experiences he has. /gustav >>> accessd at shaw.ca 14-02-2008 21:59 >>> Hi Gustav: If they could be guaranteed a stable environment but I am not sure they would be able to have that with a public hosting provider... Server.MapPath("/mydatabase.mdb") might work but maybe MS SQL Express is a better solution. Jim -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gustav Brock Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2008 1:05 AM To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: Re: [AccessD] MDB on the web Hi Jim Well, if you are able to use a standard ODBC connection, the database converter wizard in Access will do the routine work for you creating the tables in the server, copying the data, and relinking to the new source. Then you may need to modify some queries in the app with the parameter dbSeeChanges - that may all that is needed to do. /gustav >>> accessd at shaw.ca 14-02-2008 09:55 >>> Thanks Gustav for the in sites to sites. I knew that an MDB DB for a web site would be a temp fix and maybe it is the time to see if the client is willing to pay for migration to MS SQL... Jim -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gustav Brock Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2008 12:24 AM To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: Re: [AccessD] MDB on the web Hi Jim The short answer is none. If at all possible it will not be reliable as the connection to the site easily can be lost. The recommended method is to use a database engine like SQL Server or MySQL which at most decent hosting companies is available for a fair if not low additional cost. Then connect to that. The simple method is to use ODBC, and - if the database is moved to another host - all you need to do is to change the IP address of the connection. /gustav >>> accessd at shaw.ca 14-02-2008 07:34 >>> Hi All: What connection method and code do you use to connect to an MDB DB on your web sites? (I have only used MS SQL in the past and that is fairly straight forward.) My client had originally hard coded the MDB location in a Global file variable and used the DSN-less Database Connection method but that will not work now that he is planning on migrating to a public internet hosting company. Is there a way to pre-setup an ODBC Database Connection that would work on any location? Any insights and coding samples would be greatly appreciated. TIA Jim From kp at sdsonline.net Thu Feb 14 17:40:40 2008 From: kp at sdsonline.net (Kath Pelletti) Date: Fri, 15 Feb 2008 10:40:40 +1100 Subject: [AccessD] OT Friday - was Re: Syntax for setting button with eventprocedure References: <017c01c86ed9$977a9190$1b738552@minster33c3r25>, <200802142219.m1EMJnME027424@databaseadvisors.com> <47B5585D.11038.38C3165F@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg> Message-ID: <002901c86f63$02f141b0$6401a8c0@DELLAPTOP> < 2. Whoever is playing against Australia> ...jealousy's a curse.....;) Kath ----- Original Message ----- From: "Stuart McLachlan" To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving" Sent: Friday, February 15, 2008 10:16 AM Subject: [AccessD] OT Friday - was Re: Syntax for setting button with eventprocedure > On 15 Feb 2008 at 9:21, Darren D wrote: > >> LOL >> >> That's because we are up earlier than you blokes :?) >> >> Can't wait for the one-dayer today - I know - Bah Humbug - It's not real >> cricket >> >> The One Dayer between Sri-Lanka and Oz last week at the SCG was awesome - >> love >> the SCG > > As a Kiwi, I support two teams: > > 1. New Zealand > 2. Whoever is playing against Australia > > > > > > -- > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > From shamil at users.mns.ru Thu Feb 14 18:02:05 2008 From: shamil at users.mns.ru (Shamil Salakhetdinov) Date: Fri, 15 Feb 2008 03:02:05 +0300 Subject: [AccessD] MDB on the web In-Reply-To: <9F8C27A3E5974EB8B08FC571097535F3@creativesystemdesigns.com> Message-ID: <000001c86f66$001d80e0$6501a8c0@nant> Hi Jim, Yes, MS SQL is a good modern alternative but if you use MS Access and if there is no that much workload on Web Server MS Access mdb could be good enough... ...AFAIK ASP.NET 2.0 runtime by default has just 12 worker threads for one web app, and it's an easy task to serialize code execution of critical code paths... ...I personally do use MS SQL with Web apps but for small/not heavy loaded web apps MS Access backend should work well I'd expect... -- Shamil -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim Lawrence Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2008 11:49 PM To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' Subject: Re: [AccessD] MDB on the web Hi Shamil: I will try and convince the client to go MS SQL... speed, reliability and features. Jim -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Shamil Salakhetdinov Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2008 9:51 AM To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' Subject: Re: [AccessD] MDB on the web Hi Jim, If: - your (client's) mdb is local to the web app and - you develop ASP.NET 2.0 web apps Then you can use relative references to MS Access mdb within .aspx web pages like that: Message-ID: To make sure I answer all of your questions, I will reply >>>inline. -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim Lawrence Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2008 5:24 PM To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' Subject: Re: [AccessD] MDB on the web Hi Drew: That's good to know. Are all these intranet mdbs have web based interfaces? >>>Yes. In fact for the past several years, 99% of the databases I have built have a web interface. The only major system I have built that has a non-web interface is our helpdesk system. It has a VB interface, because it has abilities which would be a nightmare to try to incorporate into a web interface (one example of such a capability is that it allows our users to create a snapshot of their desktop, or any open window when creating a request. Due to IE security, interaction with the desktop level can be problematic) What type of connections do you use? >>>Since both our Intranet and Internet sites are hosted internally, and I have direct access to the IIS servers, 95% of these systems use a .dll to use the database (made in VB). I know I'm a little behind the time, because most people are using .Net (both VB and ASP), but I have so many tools that make developing these projects easily, there's no real advantage to switch. If I do use ONLY asp (again, I have tools to work with databases, in fact I posted one a few weeks ago. It builds a 'connection' object function, and asp 'classes' for any table/query), I use the Jet.4.0 OLEDB provider in ADO. Another item to note, 95% of the systems I have in place are Access 97 .mdbs. In fact, I am in the middle of building my first BIG system that will use a 2000 format database (same provider either way). adOpenUnspecified, adOpenForwardOnly, adOpenKeyset, adOpenDynamic or adOpenStatic? >>>OpenKeyset What session timeouts do you use or do you use any? >>>Depends on the system. I'd say most of my systems don't use a session timeout. Of course, the pages I build are 'hit and run' types, where they pull their data and then close the database. There are a few systems where I use the IIS session timeouts, one such system is our website, you can log in (to order stuff on our website), and that system is set to time out I think in 15 minutes, maybe 30, I built it years ago. However, it's 'invisible' to the end user, because I put a session cookie on the end user's machine so that if the session times out, it automatically logs the user back in, if they still have the same browser open. Is the connection string set something like this?: Set constr = "Provider=Microsoft.Jet.OLEDB.4.0; Data Source=" & _ Server.MapPath("/mdb/mydatabase.mdb") >>>I must admit, I rarely use an actual connection string. Typically I'll have something like this: Function DBConnect(cnn as ADODB.Connection) Set cnn=new ADODB.Connection (with asp, you'd have to use Server.CreateObject) Cnn.Provider="Microsoft.Jet.OLEDB.4.0" Cnn.open "E:\IntranetMDB\SomeDatabase.mdb" 'I hard code locations. You can do that with a hosted provider too, because I've never seen one actually physically change the path of files you store on their systems End function Is there any reason why only MDBs have been used, other than "If it ain't broke don't fix it"? >>>Several reasons: #1. Speed. No matter how you slice it, a local .mdb is almost always going to be faster then a server side db. Server side db's certainly have advantages, but with those advantages comes the cost of more overhead. If the server side db is running on the webserver, the speed is going to be close, but if it's on another server, you have the delay of handing off the processing. Now, this 'advantage' is reversed when it comes to VERY massive data sites. If you need to query millions of records, a dedicated server is probably going to work faster making the 'hand off' time negligible. But then again, returning millions of records is going to be a pain to a web user. #2. Cost. Obviously MYSQL wouldn't apply here, but if we were to use a server side db in house here, it would be SQL Server (though we do have an Oracle DB). Access is an absolute freebie since we have Access in our Office Suite anyways. (And the webserver doesn't even need a license to use the .mdb) #3. Personal Choice. I cut my teeth on databases with Access. I can develop a database/table structure blind folded in Access. #4. Backups. This is a plus and a minus. I can backup any database on our Intranet or Internet site by simply copying the .mdb. However, our tape backups balk every so often when backing up these .mdbs (they won't back it up if the .mdb is open). Since every system I have developed is setup with the 'hit and run' approach, a web user has to be actually loading a page at the exact moment the backup is trying to backup the mdb, so our backups are at least 90% successful with the .mdbs. #5. Portability. Using an .mdb, with the Jet 4.0 provider in ADO, I can move my web sites to any IIS machine (and every operating system since Windows 98 has it's own asp capable IIS server). No need to have a database engine also running on that machine. This comes in real handy with development. #6. SQL. Kind of another personal choice. But every database engine has it's unique quirks when it comes to SQL. For example, I can use: SELECT * FROM tblX WHERE DateField=#1/1/2008# That won't work on a SQL Server. Having the ability to use the same query in both the live system and an access system is a must. (the only quirk is that ADO uses % instead of * for a wild card). >>>To be continued Would you have any other suggestions or recommendations? TIA Jim The information contained in this transmission is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain II-VI Proprietary and/or II-VI BusinessSensitve material. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender immediately and destroy the material in its entirety, whether electronic or hard copy. You are notified that any review, retransmission, copying, disclosure, dissemination, or other use of, or taking of any action in reliance upon this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient is prohibited. From DWUTKA at Marlow.com Thu Feb 14 18:31:48 2008 From: DWUTKA at Marlow.com (Drew Wutka) Date: Thu, 14 Feb 2008 18:31:48 -0600 Subject: [AccessD] MDB on the web In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Continued with >>>in-line reply -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim Lawrence Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2008 5:24 PM To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' Subject: Re: [AccessD] MDB on the web Hi Drew: Is there any reason why only MDBs have been used, other than "If it ain't broke don't fix it"? >>>#7. Interface: While I have a lot of web interfaces, there are times where I might need to whip up a report, query, or even a form (I use code behind forms quite frequently to do data manipulations....not that I do data manipulation frequently, but if I have to manipulation, I may use a query, but most of the time I need some capabilities that only VBA has). Since I use .mdb's, to create a one time or infrequent report, all I have to do is open the .mdb off of the intranet/internet server and make the report. No other steps required. Would you have any other suggestions or recommendations? >>>Yes, first of all, I have listed many of the reasons why I use .mdbs, but NONE of them should be taken as a 'don't use a server side db' argument. As a member of our IT department, I don't have to deal with the stigma of 'Access is a toy'. Believe you me, with the number of things I have done with Access based systems, no one at my company would challenge me on the capabilities of Access. There are absolute circumstances where Access won't cut it though. I have an upcoming system which I'll detail for the heck of it in a minute, which is going to REQUIRE a SQL Server. It's just that until recently, I haven't had a project that required more then Access could provide. Many IT departments challenge the reliability of an Access .mdb. Well, go visit our website. http://www.marlow.com . The navigation bar you see on EVERY page is built with a combination of two databases. One's an .mdb, the other is a .dat file created by FrontPage (it's where it stores it's navigation data). But every single time you go to any page on our website, our IIS server is reading that dat file, and also querying an .mdb to create that menu bar. (it queries the product database, to build the product links on the menu bar). It's fast, and our web server is running on a PIII 800 mhz machine, with 384 megs of RAM, so it's not a screaming machine, but it runs fine. Now that's 'reading' a database. That same site records its IIS logs in an Access .mdb. Which means, for every hit on our site, the IIS server is dumping several records into an .mdb PER HIT. (Because every image displayed on a website is a single entry in the web log). We've had that site online going on 5 years....not a single .mdb on that server has ever corrupted. As for the system I am building that will require a SQL Server. It's a Data Acquisition system. We have lot's of test machines (computers using engineering cards, or serial interfaces, to record test data on the stuff we build). All of these machines record data in various ways, most of them into .mdbs that the system developers created. These databases are not designed very well, in 99% of the cases, the database has one huge flat table that holds whatever data they are recording. A few years ago, I was asked to build a database to record data for a specific machine. I went one step more there. I build an .mdb that is designed to allow the 'system developer' to create his own 'tables' (I think I called them programs) where he can see this 'program' what fields he will need, including the type of field (date, integer, double, text, etc), limits on the field (min max) and 'warning levels' (min max), etc. The system doesn't create a new table, it is just designed that these 'programs' are stored within it's structure, and then the data is stored in separate tables (based on the data type). It's as normalized as I could get it. Up until this point, I have completed, and it's running on that particular test machine (and has been for I think 2 years). It has a web interface....and that's part of the beauty of this system. Currently, our engineers hit these other test machines and to get the data from their .mdb's, they are opening those .mdb's across a network connection. With the system I created, the 'web interface' is run on the local test machine. So data from that test machine is actually queried BY the test machine. (VERY fast way to view that data). What I have to 'finish' now with this system, is that I am going to create a SQL Server database that will be a central hub where all data, from all test machines is dumped into it. It will simply be too much data to keep an in .mdb. Then I will build a web interface that will allow our engineers and anyone else that needs access to this data, to view all of the data. If they are reviewing data that is a day old or older, they would be seeing the data from the SQL Server, if they want to see the live data, they would actually be redirected to those machine's IIS servers. I know this has very little to do with what you're doing, but I don't have many venues where I get to chat up about systems I build (at least not with having the listener understand what I'm talking about!). 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From darren at activebilling.com.au Thu Feb 14 18:53:50 2008 From: darren at activebilling.com.au (Darren D) Date: Fri, 15 Feb 2008 11:53:50 +1100 Subject: [AccessD] OT Friday - was Re: Syntax for setting button with eventprocedure In-Reply-To: <47B5585D.11038.38C3165F@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg> Message-ID: <200802150052.m1F0qAg7022025@databaseadvisors.com> Ozi Ozi Ozi oi oi oi :-) Darren ----------------- -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Stuart McLachlan Sent: Friday, 15 February 2008 10:16 AM To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving Subject: [AccessD] OT Friday - was Re: Syntax for setting button with eventprocedure On 15 Feb 2008 at 9:21, Darren D wrote: > LOL > > That's because we are up earlier than you blokes :?) > > Can't wait for the one-dayer today - I know - Bah Humbug - It's not real cricket > > The One Dayer between Sri-Lanka and Oz last week at the SCG was awesome - love > the SCG As a Kiwi, I support two teams: 1. New Zealand 2. Whoever is playing against Australia -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.20.5 - Release Date: 14/02/2008 12:00 AM No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.20.5 - Release Date: 14/02/2008 12:00 AM From fuller.artful at gmail.com Thu Feb 14 19:07:43 2008 From: fuller.artful at gmail.com (Arthur Fuller) Date: Thu, 14 Feb 2008 20:07:43 -0500 Subject: [AccessD] OT: A sure fire no-seller Message-ID: <29f585dd0802141707h34f03c41we7e9745f15681e96@mail.gmail.com> Sitar Hero. From accessd at shaw.ca Thu Feb 14 19:20:54 2008 From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence) Date: Thu, 14 Feb 2008 17:20:54 -0800 Subject: [AccessD] MDB on the web In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <0537603A79D54580AC6D106DB1BA17C5@creativesystemdesigns.com> Hi Gustav: This MDB will not be sitting on a station within so LAN but on a website. Thanks so much for the help. Jim -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gustav Brock Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2008 3:21 PM To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: Re: [AccessD] MDB on the web Hi Jim I may have misunderstood you. I thought you would link to a database at a hosting service from remote workstations. If you just need a backend database for a website where the mdb file itself resides on the webserver's LAN, that is what Drew is talking about, and I don't see why not to listen the experiences he has. /gustav >>> accessd at shaw.ca 14-02-2008 21:59 >>> Hi Gustav: If they could be guaranteed a stable environment but I am not sure they would be able to have that with a public hosting provider... Server.MapPath("/mydatabase.mdb") might work but maybe MS SQL Express is a better solution. Jim -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gustav Brock Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2008 1:05 AM To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: Re: [AccessD] MDB on the web Hi Jim Well, if you are able to use a standard ODBC connection, the database converter wizard in Access will do the routine work for you creating the tables in the server, copying the data, and relinking to the new source. Then you may need to modify some queries in the app with the parameter dbSeeChanges - that may all that is needed to do. /gustav >>> accessd at shaw.ca 14-02-2008 09:55 >>> Thanks Gustav for the in sites to sites. I knew that an MDB DB for a web site would be a temp fix and maybe it is the time to see if the client is willing to pay for migration to MS SQL... Jim -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gustav Brock Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2008 12:24 AM To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: Re: [AccessD] MDB on the web Hi Jim The short answer is none. If at all possible it will not be reliable as the connection to the site easily can be lost. The recommended method is to use a database engine like SQL Server or MySQL which at most decent hosting companies is available for a fair if not low additional cost. Then connect to that. The simple method is to use ODBC, and - if the database is moved to another host - all you need to do is to change the IP address of the connection. /gustav >>> accessd at shaw.ca 14-02-2008 07:34 >>> Hi All: What connection method and code do you use to connect to an MDB DB on your web sites? (I have only used MS SQL in the past and that is fairly straight forward.) My client had originally hard coded the MDB location in a Global file variable and used the DSN-less Database Connection method but that will not work now that he is planning on migrating to a public internet hosting company. Is there a way to pre-setup an ODBC Database Connection that would work on any location? Any insights and coding samples would be greatly appreciated. TIA Jim -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From accessd at shaw.ca Thu Feb 14 19:24:54 2008 From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence) Date: Thu, 14 Feb 2008 17:24:54 -0800 Subject: [AccessD] MDB on the web In-Reply-To: <000001c86f66$001d80e0$6501a8c0@nant> References: <9F8C27A3E5974EB8B08FC571097535F3@creativesystemdesigns.com> <000001c86f66$001d80e0$6501a8c0@nant> Message-ID: <792402113303452793391BAFD1D4AA71@creativesystemdesigns.com> Thanks Shamil... I will take all information on this subject I can get. The client has given me very tight time-frame so there is no time to test and guess... the first choice has to be right. Jim -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Shamil Salakhetdinov Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2008 4:02 PM To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' Subject: Re: [AccessD] MDB on the web Hi Jim, Yes, MS SQL is a good modern alternative but if you use MS Access and if there is no that much workload on Web Server MS Access mdb could be good enough... ...AFAIK ASP.NET 2.0 runtime by default has just 12 worker threads for one web app, and it's an easy task to serialize code execution of critical code paths... ...I personally do use MS SQL with Web apps but for small/not heavy loaded web apps MS Access backend should work well I'd expect... -- Shamil -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim Lawrence Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2008 11:49 PM To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' Subject: Re: [AccessD] MDB on the web Hi Shamil: I will try and convince the client to go MS SQL... speed, reliability and features. Jim -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Shamil Salakhetdinov Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2008 9:51 AM To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' Subject: Re: [AccessD] MDB on the web Hi Jim, If: - your (client's) mdb is local to the web app and - you develop ASP.NET 2.0 web apps Then you can use relative references to MS Access mdb within .aspx web pages like that: Message-ID: <200802150120.m1F1KirV032691@databaseadvisors.com> Stuart Brilliant many thanks - this works wonderfully I now have to get it to do the file copy bit and I am done Again many thanks - Despite the cricket Jibes - Love your work :-) Darren ----------------- T: 1300 301 731 -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Stuart McLachlan Sent: Thursday, 14 February 2008 5:35 PM To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving Subject: Re: [AccessD] A2003:Copying Files-Tricky Take a look at the Split() function. Dim PosMAtches() as String PosMatches() = Split([Possible matches],";") For loopcount = 0 to Ubound(PosMatches()) StrSearch = "C:\*." & PosMatches(loopcount) .... Next On 14 Feb 2008 at 15:11, Darren D wrote: > Hi All > > I have a tricky question - at least it's tricky for me to solve > > I have a field in a table where suffixes and prefixes for files are stored in a > field called "Possible Matches" > > > > Trouble is - it's only one field and the possible prefixes and Suffixes are > separated by SemiColons > > So we may have XML;DOC;TXT;123 etc representing possible Suffix/Prefix > > > > What I want to do is write a file copy routine that looks for any occurrence of > the strings above in any file name in a given location > > And I want that routine to copy any occurrence of the file/s it finds with the > "Possible Matches" in its name to another folder > > > > EG say I have File1.TXT, File2.DOC, 123.PDF, My.INI in the root folder of C:\ > > > > I want the routine to find the txt, doc and pdf files and copy them from the > root folder of C: to a location but ignore the ini > > As neither 'INI' nor 'My' (My.INI) is in the "Possible Matches" field > > > > The file copy stuff I am familiar with but I think the routine would have to > > Some other things I am not so familiar with > > EG PsuedoCode/WorkFlow > > A Count the items in "Possible Matches" by counting the SemiColons > perhaps using InStr (Is that the correct function?) > > B loop the number of times InStr finds a SemiColon > > C For each loop build a search string - In this EG "C:\" & "*TXT*" or > "C:\" &"*DOC*" etc > > D The copy every occurrence of "C:\" & "*TXT*" or "C:\" &"*DOC*" etc to > the desired destination (This bit I can do) And so on > > > > Am I on the right track with the PsuedoCode/WorkFlow? > > > > Make sense? > > > > Any suggestions? > > > > Many thanks in advance > > > > DD > > > No virus found in this outgoing message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.20.4/1277 - Release Date: 13/02/2008 8:00 > PM > > > -- > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.20.4/1277 - Release Date: 13/02/2008 8:00 PM No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.20.5 - Release Date: 14/02/2008 12:00 AM From bheid at sc.rr.com Thu Feb 14 19:27:20 2008 From: bheid at sc.rr.com (Bobby Heid) Date: Thu, 14 Feb 2008 20:27:20 -0500 Subject: [AccessD] Vista SP1 available for MSDN/TechNet+ subscribers Message-ID: <000501c86f71$e9029fb0$bb07df10$@rr.com> Vista SP1 is now available for MSDN and TechNet Plus subscribers. The DVD ISO is 1.13GB! Bobby From Darryl.Collins at coles.com.au Thu Feb 14 19:32:06 2008 From: Darryl.Collins at coles.com.au (Darryl Collins) Date: Fri, 15 Feb 2008 12:32:06 +1100 Subject: [AccessD] Vista SP1 available for MSDN/TechNet+ subscribers Message-ID: <49DFE57FB126044B8A8B934E7AEA09ED09FD6F35@WPEXCH05.colesmyer.ad.cmltd.net.au> That will be a fun download for those folks on dial up or sluggy ADSL. -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Bobby Heid Sent: Friday, 15 February 2008 12:27 PM To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' Subject: [AccessD] Vista SP1 available for MSDN/TechNet+ subscribers Vista SP1 is now available for MSDN and TechNet Plus subscribers. The DVD ISO is 1.13GB! 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From accessd at shaw.ca Thu Feb 14 19:43:17 2008 From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence) Date: Thu, 14 Feb 2008 17:43:17 -0800 Subject: [AccessD] MDB on the web In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hi Drew: First: Thanks so much for all that information as it gives me confidence on the available choices and direction to take. Second: Your situation, access, control and opportunity to enjoy such a challenging project is enough to make my mouth water. Jim -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Drew Wutka Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2008 4:32 PM To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving Subject: Re: [AccessD] MDB on the web Continued with >>>in-line reply -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim Lawrence Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2008 5:24 PM To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' Subject: Re: [AccessD] MDB on the web Hi Drew: Is there any reason why only MDBs have been used, other than "If it ain't broke don't fix it"? >>>#7. Interface: While I have a lot of web interfaces, there are times where I might need to whip up a report, query, or even a form (I use code behind forms quite frequently to do data manipulations....not that I do data manipulation frequently, but if I have to manipulation, I may use a query, but most of the time I need some capabilities that only VBA has). Since I use .mdb's, to create a one time or infrequent report, all I have to do is open the .mdb off of the intranet/internet server and make the report. No other steps required. Would you have any other suggestions or recommendations? >>>Yes, first of all, I have listed many of the reasons why I use .mdbs, but NONE of them should be taken as a 'don't use a server side db' argument. As a member of our IT department, I don't have to deal with the stigma of 'Access is a toy'. Believe you me, with the number of things I have done with Access based systems, no one at my company would challenge me on the capabilities of Access. There are absolute circumstances where Access won't cut it though. I have an upcoming system which I'll detail for the heck of it in a minute, which is going to REQUIRE a SQL Server. It's just that until recently, I haven't had a project that required more then Access could provide. Many IT departments challenge the reliability of an Access .mdb. Well, go visit our website. http://www.marlow.com . The navigation bar you see on EVERY page is built with a combination of two databases. One's an .mdb, the other is a .dat file created by FrontPage (it's where it stores it's navigation data). But every single time you go to any page on our website, our IIS server is reading that dat file, and also querying an .mdb to create that menu bar. (it queries the product database, to build the product links on the menu bar). It's fast, and our web server is running on a PIII 800 mhz machine, with 384 megs of RAM, so it's not a screaming machine, but it runs fine. Now that's 'reading' a database. That same site records its IIS logs in an Access .mdb. Which means, for every hit on our site, the IIS server is dumping several records into an .mdb PER HIT. (Because every image displayed on a website is a single entry in the web log). We've had that site online going on 5 years....not a single .mdb on that server has ever corrupted. As for the system I am building that will require a SQL Server. It's a Data Acquisition system. We have lot's of test machines (computers using engineering cards, or serial interfaces, to record test data on the stuff we build). All of these machines record data in various ways, most of them into .mdbs that the system developers created. These databases are not designed very well, in 99% of the cases, the database has one huge flat table that holds whatever data they are recording. A few years ago, I was asked to build a database to record data for a specific machine. I went one step more there. I build an .mdb that is designed to allow the 'system developer' to create his own 'tables' (I think I called them programs) where he can see this 'program' what fields he will need, including the type of field (date, integer, double, text, etc), limits on the field (min max) and 'warning levels' (min max), etc. The system doesn't create a new table, it is just designed that these 'programs' are stored within it's structure, and then the data is stored in separate tables (based on the data type). It's as normalized as I could get it. Up until this point, I have completed, and it's running on that particular test machine (and has been for I think 2 years). It has a web interface....and that's part of the beauty of this system. Currently, our engineers hit these other test machines and to get the data from their .mdb's, they are opening those .mdb's across a network connection. With the system I created, the 'web interface' is run on the local test machine. So data from that test machine is actually queried BY the test machine. (VERY fast way to view that data). What I have to 'finish' now with this system, is that I am going to create a SQL Server database that will be a central hub where all data, from all test machines is dumped into it. It will simply be too much data to keep an in .mdb. Then I will build a web interface that will allow our engineers and anyone else that needs access to this data, to view all of the data. If they are reviewing data that is a day old or older, they would be seeing the data from the SQL Server, if they want to see the live data, they would actually be redirected to those machine's IIS servers. I know this has very little to do with what you're doing, but I don't have many venues where I get to chat up about systems I build (at least not with having the listener understand what I'm talking about!). 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You are notified that any review, retransmission, copying, disclosure, dissemination, or other use of, or taking of any action in reliance upon this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient is prohibited. -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From fuller.artful at gmail.com Thu Feb 14 19:56:29 2008 From: fuller.artful at gmail.com (Arthur Fuller) Date: Thu, 14 Feb 2008 20:56:29 -0500 Subject: [AccessD] Kanada Message-ID: <29f585dd0802141756h7e485d35x41735fc03f2b5705@mail.gmail.com> Pursuant to my previous post on Amerika... Don't regard it as anti-USA -- not at all -- we have similar villains right here in my own back yard. The RCMP (Royal Canadian Mounted Police, our equivalent to the FBI, sort of) auditor today announced that the RCMP has been keeping secret files on more than 45,000 Canadians whose content revealed nothing subversive or even vaguely criminal. One such instance: a man dropped his daughter off at her school, stopping his car in front of the house next to the school, which reportedly was home to a drug dealer. Fourteen years later this data was still on file, even though the man had subsequently been deemed a mere father dropping his daughter off at school. Incidentally, it turns out that the man inhabiting said house was never convicted. A file, once opened, is apparently never closed. Well, at last, that particular file is closed, thanks to the Auditor, and many thousands of others as well. But it does make one wonder, From how many jobs was this man excluded the prospective employers did a background check? A. From accessd at shaw.ca Thu Feb 14 20:20:25 2008 From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence) Date: Thu, 14 Feb 2008 18:20:25 -0800 Subject: [AccessD] Kanada In-Reply-To: <29f585dd0802141756h7e485d35x41735fc03f2b5705@mail.gmail.com> References: <29f585dd0802141756h7e485d35x41735fc03f2b5705@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: No surprises here, Jim -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Arthur Fuller Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2008 5:56 PM To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving Subject: [AccessD] Kanada Pursuant to my previous post on Amerika... Don't regard it as anti-USA -- not at all -- we have similar villains right here in my own back yard. The RCMP (Royal Canadian Mounted Police, our equivalent to the FBI, sort of) auditor today announced that the RCMP has been keeping secret files on more than 45,000 Canadians whose content revealed nothing subversive or even vaguely criminal. One such instance: a man dropped his daughter off at her school, stopping his car in front of the house next to the school, which reportedly was home to a drug dealer. Fourteen years later this data was still on file, even though the man had subsequently been deemed a mere father dropping his daughter off at school. Incidentally, it turns out that the man inhabiting said house was never convicted. A file, once opened, is apparently never closed. Well, at last, that particular file is closed, thanks to the Auditor, and many thousands of others as well. But it does make one wonder, From how many jobs was this man excluded the prospective employers did a background check? A. -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From stephen at bondsoftware.co.nz Fri Feb 15 00:09:34 2008 From: stephen at bondsoftware.co.nz (Stephen) Date: Fri, 15 Feb 2008 19:09:34 +1300 Subject: [AccessD] OT Friday - was Re: Syntax for setting button witheventprocedure Message-ID: <569E08FC48047F4F848850B118195FBE019F8F@server.BondSoftware.local> Would I open a can of worms by mentioning underarm bowling ? (ducks for cover) ......... Stephen Subject: Re: [AccessD] OT Friday - was Re: Syntax for setting button witheventprocedure Ozi Ozi Ozi oi oi oi :-) Darren ----------------- -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Stuart McLachlan Sent: Friday, 15 February 2008 10:16 AM To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving Subject: [AccessD] OT Friday - was Re: Syntax for setting button with eventprocedure On 15 Feb 2008 at 9:21, Darren D wrote: > LOL > > That's because we are up earlier than you blokes :?) > > Can't wait for the one-dayer today - I know - Bah Humbug - It's not > real cricket > > The One Dayer between Sri-Lanka and Oz last week at the SCG was > awesome - love the SCG As a Kiwi, I support two teams: 1. New Zealand 2. Whoever is playing against Australia -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.20.5 - Release Date: 14/02/2008 12:00 AM No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.20.5 - Release Date: 14/02/2008 12:00 AM -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From accessd at shaw.ca Fri Feb 15 00:59:36 2008 From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence) Date: Thu, 14 Feb 2008 22:59:36 -0800 Subject: [AccessD] OT Friday In-Reply-To: <569E08FC48047F4F848850B118195FBE019F8F@server.BondSoftware.local> References: <569E08FC48047F4F848850B118195FBE019F8F@server.BondSoftware.local> Message-ID: <0E5FE9E12E574FF687402C091E712BEA@creativesystemdesigns.com> Hi All: Please join me in remembering a great icon of the entertainment community. The Pillsbury Doughboy died yesterday of a yeast infection and trauma complications from repeated pokes in the belly. He was 71. Doughboy was buried in a lightly greased coffin. Dozens of celebrities turned out to pay their respects, including Mrs. Butterworth, Hungry Jack, the California Raisins, Betty Crocker, the Hostess Twinkies, and Captain Crunch. The grave site was piled high with flours. Aunt Jemima delivered the eulogy and lovingly described Doughboy as a man who never knew how much he was kneaded. Doughboy rose quickly in show business, but his later life was filled with turnovers. He was not considered a very smart cookie, wasting much of his dough on half-baked schemes. Despite being a little flaky at times he still was a crusty old man and was considered a positive roll model for millions. Doughboy is survived by his wife Play Dough, two children, John Dough and Jane Dough, plus they had one in the oven. He is also survived by his elderly father, Pop Tart. The funeral was held at 3:50 for about 20 minutes. Jim From Erwin.Craps at ithelps.eu Fri Feb 15 01:39:46 2008 From: Erwin.Craps at ithelps.eu (Erwin Craps - IT Helps) Date: Fri, 15 Feb 2008 08:39:46 +0100 Subject: [AccessD] Vista SP1 available for MSDN/TechNet+ subscribers References: <49DFE57FB126044B8A8B934E7AEA09ED09FD6F35@WPEXCH05.colesmyer.ad.cmltd.net.au> Message-ID: <430E80531228BA4497C5EB1A7BA786B027717F@stekelbes.ithelps.local> Wowwww Great opportunity to test my brand new ADSL2+ line at 24Mbps downstream... Erwin -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Darryl Collins Sent: Friday, February 15, 2008 2:32 AM To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving Subject: Re: [AccessD] Vista SP1 available for MSDN/TechNet+ subscribers That will be a fun download for those folks on dial up or sluggy ADSL. -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Bobby Heid Sent: Friday, 15 February 2008 12:27 PM To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' Subject: [AccessD] Vista SP1 available for MSDN/TechNet+ subscribers Vista SP1 is now available for MSDN and TechNet Plus subscribers. The DVD ISO is 1.13GB! 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The sender's entire liability will be limited to resupplying the material. -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From Gustav at cactus.dk Fri Feb 15 03:43:33 2008 From: Gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock) Date: Fri, 15 Feb 2008 10:43:33 +0100 Subject: [AccessD] Friday/weekend scaring reading: Wikipedia and JET Message-ID: Hi all - or perhaps indeed our JET specialist, Jim Dettman Here is a scaring example that not everything in Wikipidia is to be trusted. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microsoft_Jet_Database_Engine That entry is so full of confusing, mixed up and misleading facts and incorrect version info that a major rewrite is requested. (My time doesn't allow, sorry). And why everything is written in preteritum and not presens as if JET has passed away, I don't know. For example, it fools around from paragraph one with JET, SQL Server and SQL Server Compact Edition - and states that SQL was introduced in "later versions". And if you stand reading through this mess, at the end the author claims transactions to be introduced in JET version 4.0. Much can be said about JET but it certainly deserves a more trustworthy description. /gustav From mmattys at rochester.rr.com Fri Feb 15 07:07:03 2008 From: mmattys at rochester.rr.com (Michael R Mattys) Date: Fri, 15 Feb 2008 08:07:03 -0500 Subject: [AccessD] OT Friday References: <569E08FC48047F4F848850B118195FBE019F8F@server.BondSoftware.local> <0E5FE9E12E574FF687402C091E712BEA@creativesystemdesigns.com> Message-ID: <001a01c86fd3$a97e7a00$0202a8c0@Laptop> That was great, Jim! Michael R. Mattys MapPoint & Access Dev www.mattysconsulting.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jim Lawrence" To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'" Sent: Friday, February 15, 2008 1:59 AM Subject: Re: [AccessD] OT Friday > Hi All: > > Please join me in remembering a great icon of the entertainment community. > The Pillsbury Doughboy died yesterday of a yeast infection and trauma > complications from repeated pokes in the belly. He was 71. From ssharkins at gmail.com Fri Feb 15 07:57:13 2008 From: ssharkins at gmail.com (Susan Harkins) Date: Fri, 15 Feb 2008 08:57:13 -0500 Subject: [AccessD] OT Friday References: <569E08FC48047F4F848850B118195FBE019F8F@server.BondSoftware.local> <0E5FE9E12E574FF687402C091E712BEA@creativesystemdesigns.com> Message-ID: <003a01c86fda$d9898080$4b3a8343@SusanOne> Well, there goes my diet! ;) Susan H. > > The funeral was held at 3:50 for about 20 minutes. From Jim.Hale at FleetPride.com Fri Feb 15 09:23:22 2008 From: Jim.Hale at FleetPride.com (Hale, Jim) Date: Fri, 15 Feb 2008 09:23:22 -0600 Subject: [AccessD] OT Friday In-Reply-To: <0E5FE9E12E574FF687402C091E712BEA@creativesystemdesigns.com> References: <569E08FC48047F4F848850B118195FBE019F8F@server.BondSoftware.loca l> <0E5FE9E12E574FF687402C091E712BEA@creativesystemdesigns.com> Message-ID: Thanks, I needed that! Jim Hale *********************************************************************** The information transmitted is intended solely for the individual or entity to which it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or privileged material. Any review, retransmission, dissemination or other use of or taking action in reliance upon this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient is prohibited. If you have received this email in error please contact the sender and delete the material from any computer. 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From Patricia.O'Connor at otda.state.ny.us Fri Feb 15 10:01:57 2008 From: Patricia.O'Connor at otda.state.ny.us (O'Connor, Patricia (OTDA)) Date: Fri, 15 Feb 2008 11:01:57 -0500 Subject: [AccessD] OT Friday In-Reply-To: <0E5FE9E12E574FF687402C091E712BEA@creativesystemdesigns.com> References: <569E08FC48047F4F848850B118195FBE019F8F@server.BondSoftware.local> <0E5FE9E12E574FF687402C091E712BEA@creativesystemdesigns.com> Message-ID: <01DBAB52E30A9A4AB3D94EF8029EDBE8021BB261@EXCNYSM0A1AI.nysemail.nyenet> Thanks I soooo needed that Been a long week ************************************************** * Patricia O'Connor * Associate Computer Programmer Analyst * OTDA - BDMA * (W) mailto:Patricia.O'Connor at otda.state.ny.us * (w) mailto:aa1160 at nysemail.state.ny.us ************************************************** > -------------------------------------------------------- This e-mail, including any attachments, may be confidential, privileged or otherwise legally protected. It is intended only for the addressee. If you received this e-mail in error or from someone who was not authorized to send it to you, do not disseminate, copy or otherwise use this e-mail or its attachments. Please notify the sender immediately by reply e-mail and delete the e-mail from your system. -----Original Message----- > From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of > Jim Lawrence > Sent: Friday, February 15, 2008 02:00 AM > To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' > Subject: Re: [AccessD] OT Friday > > Hi All: > > Please join me in remembering a great icon of the > entertainment community. > The Pillsbury Doughboy died yesterday of a yeast infection > and trauma complications from repeated pokes in the belly. He was 71. > > > Doughboy was buried in a lightly greased coffin. Dozens of > celebrities turned out to pay their respects, including Mrs. > Butterworth, Hungry Jack, the California Raisins, Betty > Crocker, the Hostess Twinkies, and Captain Crunch. The grave > site was piled high with flours. > > > Aunt Jemima delivered the eulogy and lovingly described > Doughboy as a man who never knew how much he was kneaded. > Doughboy rose quickly in show business, but his later life > was filled with turnovers. He was not considered a very smart > cookie, wasting much of his dough on half-baked schemes. > Despite being a little flaky at times he still was a crusty > old man and was considered a positive roll model for millions. > > > Doughboy is survived by his wife Play Dough, two children, > John Dough and Jane Dough, plus they had one in the oven. He > is also survived by his elderly father, Pop Tart. > > > The funeral was held at 3:50 for about 20 minutes. > > Jim > From dwaters at usinternet.com Fri Feb 15 10:49:30 2008 From: dwaters at usinternet.com (Dan Waters) Date: Fri, 15 Feb 2008 10:49:30 -0600 Subject: [AccessD] Friday/weekend scaring reading: Wikipedia and JET In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <003a01c86ff2$bc0879e0$0300a8c0@danwaters> Gustav, I think you could modify the Wikipedia entry to be correct! Dan -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gustav Brock Sent: Friday, February 15, 2008 3:44 AM To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: [AccessD] Friday/weekend scaring reading: Wikipedia and JET Hi all - or perhaps indeed our JET specialist, Jim Dettman Here is a scaring example that not everything in Wikipidia is to be trusted. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microsoft_Jet_Database_Engine That entry is so full of confusing, mixed up and misleading facts and incorrect version info that a major rewrite is requested. (My time doesn't allow, sorry). And why everything is written in preteritum and not presens as if JET has passed away, I don't know. For example, it fools around from paragraph one with JET, SQL Server and SQL Server Compact Edition - and states that SQL was introduced in "later versions". And if you stand reading through this mess, at the end the author claims transactions to be introduced in JET version 4.0. Much can be said about JET but it certainly deserves a more trustworthy description. /gustav -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From Gustav at cactus.dk Fri Feb 15 11:57:12 2008 From: Gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock) Date: Fri, 15 Feb 2008 18:57:12 +0100 Subject: [AccessD] Weekend fun moving to Visual Studio (was: Old Dog - New Tricks) Message-ID: Hi all If you browse the web or some intros on how to access data in .Net, you'll meet bunches of old fashioned and primitive code dealing with connect strings and direct SQL statements. The last link (#4, below) from Shamil is different. It starts out designing a Data Access Layer and walk you through DataSet and DataTable creation. Although it is aimed for ASP.NET development, I've found that route very good for people like me with a background from Access as this approaches much better the world you come from where you take objects like stored queries for granted. It takes some time to get hold on the vast amount of options, properties, wizards and designers, but I feel it pays off as you slowly experience the power of intellisense - it's amazing the level of info it offers at any occasion, including in-line data preview while debugging. So if a long boring weekend is waiting, install the Northwind example base in SQL Server Express or CE and get started! Thanks Shamil for this excellent link. (As for the linked servers I will get back on this). /gustav >>> shamil at users.mns.ru 28-01-2008 18:12 >>> Hello Rocky, You can start here with ASP.NET: http://www.asp.net/get-started/ http://quickstarts.asp.net/QuickStartv20/aspnet/Default.aspx http://www.asp.net/learn/ http://www.asp.net/learn/data-access/ -- Shamil -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Rocky Smolin at Beach Access Software Sent: Monday, January 28, 2008 6:46 PM To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' Subject: Re: [AccessD] Old Dog - New Tricks In getting started with VS2005 is it recommended to begin with Windows applications and forms or Web applications and forms? If you create a winders app in VS is it difficult to convert it to a web app? And back to ASP again - is the ASP part of the application the equivalent of using DAO or ADO in an Access app? That is, does it take care of moving data in and out of tables? Or does it have other functions? MTIA Rocky From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com Fri Feb 15 15:19:39 2008 From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (jwcolby) Date: Fri, 15 Feb 2008 16:19:39 -0500 Subject: [AccessD] Shadowed copies Message-ID: <013401c87018$79f4c6f0$0401a8c0@M90> Is anyone using Shadow copies with Windows 2003? Experiences with it, comments about it? John W. Colby Colby Consulting www.ColbyConsulting.com From robert at servicexp.com Fri Feb 15 15:35:17 2008 From: robert at servicexp.com (Robert) Date: Fri, 15 Feb 2008 16:35:17 -0500 Subject: [AccessD] Telephone Reminder System In-Reply-To: <003a01c86ff2$bc0879e0$0300a8c0@danwaters> References: <003a01c86ff2$bc0879e0$0300a8c0@danwaters> Message-ID: <47B60595.1060103@servicexp.com> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Has anyone done any Telephone Reminder System like you see at many doctor offices in access? I need to be able to dial out (phone number) via a standard modem and have a voice (preferably female) read an appointment string. Any leads...? Thanks ~Robert -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.7 (MingW32) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFHtgWV72dSYCwH8FQRAm5eAJ9NZ44khOiu0Iuqv7s43DxgRBGVBACfZc/9 ONVN/3SJiucPudXEGqY/IPg= =mF30 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From fuller.artful at gmail.com Fri Feb 15 18:35:17 2008 From: fuller.artful at gmail.com (Arthur Fuller) Date: Fri, 15 Feb 2008 19:35:17 -0500 Subject: [AccessD] OT: Friday, Cows and Politics Message-ID: <29f585dd0802151635s6115f9e6me15765e3d7d1c7b6@mail.gmail.com> It's Friday so forgive me. Too many references concern the USA, but there you go. A. >> DEMOCRAT >> You have two cows. >> Your neighbor has none. >> You feel guilty for being successful. >> Barbara Streisand sings for you. >> >> >> REPUBLICAN >> You have two cows. >> Your neighbor has none. >> So? >> >> >> SOCIALIST >> You have two cows. >> The government takes one and gives it to your neighbor. >> You form a cooperative to tell him how to manage his cow. >> >> >> COMMUNIST >> You have two cows. >> The government seizes both and provides you with milk. >> You wait in line for hours to get it. >> It is expensive and sour. >> >> >> CAPITALISM, AMERICAN STYLE >> You have two cows. >> You sell one, buy a bull, and build a herd of cows. >> >> >> DEMOCRACY, AMERICAN STYLE >> You have two cows. >> The government taxes you to the point you have to sell both to support a man in a foreign country who has only one cow, which was a gift from your government. >> >> BUREAUCRACY, AMERICAN STYLE >> You have two cows. The government takes them both, shoots one, milks the other, pays you for the milk, and then pours the milk down the drain. >> >> >> AMERICAN CORPORATION >> You have two cows. >> You sell one, lease it back to yourself and do an IPO on the 2nd one. >> You force the two cows to produce the milk of four cows. You are surprised when >> one cow drops dead. You spin an announcement to the analysts stating >> you have down sized and are reducing expenses. Your stock goes up. >> >> >> FRENCH CORPORATION >> You have two cows. >> You go on strike because you want three cows. >> You go to lunch and drink wine. >> Life is good. >> >> >> JAPANESE CORPORATION >> You have two cows. >> You redesign them so they are one-tenth the size of an ordinary cow and produce twenty times the milk. They learn to travel on unbelievably crowded trains. Most are at the top of their class at cow school. >> >> >> GERMAN CORPORATION >> You have two cows. >> You engineer them so they are all blond, drink lots of beer, give excellent quality milk, and run a hundred miles an hour. Unfortunately they also demand 13 weeks of vacation per year. >> >> >> ITALIAN CORPORATION >> You have two cows but you don't know where they are. >> While ambling around, you see a beautiful woman. >> You break for lunch. >> Life is good. >> >> >> RUSSIAN CORPORATION >> You have two cows. >> You have some vodka. >> You count them and learn you have five cows. >> You have some more vodka. >> You count them again and learn you have 42 cows. >> The Mafia shows up and takes over however many cows you really have. >> >> >> TALIBAN CORPORATION >> You have all the cows in Afghanistan , which are two. >> You don't milk them because you cannot touch any creature's private parts. >> Then you kill them and claim a US bomb blew them up while they were in the hospital. >> You take the restitution check and plant opium poppies. >> >> >> IRAQI CORPORATION >> You have two cows. >> They go into hiding. >> They send radio tapes of their mooing. >> >> >> POLISH CORPORATION >> You have two bulls. >> Employees are regularly maimed and killed attempting to milk them. >> >> >> FLORIDA CORPORATION >> You have a black cow and a brown cow. >> Everyone votes for the best looking one. >> Some of the people who like the brown one best, vote for the black one. >> >> Some people vote for both Some people vote for neither. Some people can't >> figure out how to vote at all. Finally, a bunch of guys from out-of-state tell you which is the best looking cow. >> >> >> CALIFORNIAN >> You have a cow and a bull. >> The bull is depressed. >> It has spent its life living a lie. >> It goes away for two weeks >> It comes back after a taxpayer-paid sex-change operation. >> You now have two cows. >> One makes milk; the other doesn't. >> You try to sell the transgender cow. >> Its lawyer sues you for discrimination. >> You lose in court. >> You sell the milk-generating cow to pay the damages. >> You now have one rich, transgender, non-milk-producing cow. >> You change your business to beef. >> PETA pickets your farm. >> Jesse Jackson makes a speech in your driveway. >> Cruz Bustamante calls for higher farm taxes to help "working cows". >> Hillary Clinton calls for the nationalization of 1/7 of your farm "for the children". >> Gray Davis signs a law giving your farm to Mexico . >> The L.A. Times quotes five anonymous cows claiming you groped their teats. >> You declare bankruptcy and shut down all operations. >> The cow starves to death. >> The L.A. Times' analysis shows your business failure is Bush's fault. > >_________________________________________________________________ > From fuller.artful at gmail.com Fri Feb 15 20:02:26 2008 From: fuller.artful at gmail.com (Arthur Fuller) Date: Fri, 15 Feb 2008 21:02:26 -0500 Subject: [AccessD] Friday/weekend scaring reading: Wikipedia and JET In-Reply-To: <003a01c86ff2$bc0879e0$0300a8c0@danwaters> References: <003a01c86ff2$bc0879e0$0300a8c0@danwaters> Message-ID: <29f585dd0802151802w3f9fb11dj2ee750aa2373a02e@mail.gmail.com> I don't think it's fair to dump all this responsibility to correct this entry upon Gustav. Even though he is a fabulously wealthy magnate with billions to spare and allegedly retired, having nothing better to do than play with scantily clad nympettes and write brilliant VBA code, we ought not foist all this responsibility upon him. Amongst us all, we could revise this entry to be accurate. That's what Wikipedia is all about, IMO. Some dumbass posts his or her take on some subject, and it gets revised by the more knowledgeable set of readers and writers. I've a niece in graduate school whose prof said, "Never trust Wikipedia". I hate this response. It says to me, "I know where the author is incorrect, but rather than post revisions, I shall instead declare the entire enterprise worthless and beneath contempt." Such persons can go fart in the nearest lake, IMO. The whole point of Wikipedia is that we collectively fix its entries. In this narrow and specific example, several of us, if not most, on this list, know considerably more about JET that the author of the existing entry. The original contributor may have thought herself in possession of most or all the facts. Clearly this is not the case. But attacking her (or him) is unproductive: let us fix the entry and let us not foist it upon Gustav to fix it. Let us not issue diatribes about the incorrectness of the original entry, but simply and quietly and without malice render it more accurate. How to coordinate our collective corrections is another issue, but one best manage by Wiki itself. We can all contribute to the history of JET, to the best of our abilities, and render this first submission a good start but since enhanced. A. On Fri, Feb 15, 2008 at 11:49 AM, Dan Waters wrote: > Gustav, > > I think you could modify the Wikipedia entry to be correct! > > Dan > From nd500_lo at charter.net Fri Feb 15 22:18:00 2008 From: nd500_lo at charter.net (Dian) Date: Fri, 15 Feb 2008 20:18:00 -0800 Subject: [AccessD] Friday/weekend scaring reading: Wikipedia and JET In-Reply-To: <29f585dd0802151802w3f9fb11dj2ee750aa2373a02e@mail.gmail.com> References: <003a01c86ff2$bc0879e0$0300a8c0@danwaters> <29f585dd0802151802w3f9fb11dj2ee750aa2373a02e@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <000901c87052$ed6e5800$6400a8c0@dsunit1> I'm definitely retired and have some time...tell me what you want to say and I'll take the time to clean it up for you.... -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Arthur Fuller Sent: Friday, February 15, 2008 6:02 PM To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving Subject: Re: [AccessD] Friday/weekend scaring reading: Wikipedia and JET I don't think it's fair to dump all this responsibility to correct this entry upon Gustav. Even though he is a fabulously wealthy magnate with billions to spare and allegedly retired, having nothing better to do than play with scantily clad nympettes and write brilliant VBA code, we ought not foist all this responsibility upon him. Amongst us all, we could revise this entry to be accurate. That's what Wikipedia is all about, IMO. Some dumbass posts his or her take on some subject, and it gets revised by the more knowledgeable set of readers and writers. I've a niece in graduate school whose prof said, "Never trust Wikipedia". I hate this response. It says to me, "I know where the author is incorrect, but rather than post revisions, I shall instead declare the entire enterprise worthless and beneath contempt." Such persons can go fart in the nearest lake, IMO. The whole point of Wikipedia is that we collectively fix its entries. In this narrow and specific example, several of us, if not most, on this list, know considerably more about JET that the author of the existing entry. The original contributor may have thought herself in possession of most or all the facts. Clearly this is not the case. But attacking her (or him) is unproductive: let us fix the entry and let us not foist it upon Gustav to fix it. Let us not issue diatribes about the incorrectness of the original entry, but simply and quietly and without malice render it more accurate. How to coordinate our collective corrections is another issue, but one best manage by Wiki itself. We can all contribute to the history of JET, to the best of our abilities, and render this first submission a good start but since enhanced. A. On Fri, Feb 15, 2008 at 11:49 AM, Dan Waters wrote: > Gustav, > > I think you could modify the Wikipedia entry to be correct! > > Dan > -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From accessd at shaw.ca Fri Feb 15 23:26:29 2008 From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence) Date: Fri, 15 Feb 2008 21:26:29 -0800 Subject: [AccessD] Friday/weekend scaring reading: Wikipedia and JET In-Reply-To: <29f585dd0802151802w3f9fb11dj2ee750aa2373a02e@mail.gmail.com> References: <003a01c86ff2$bc0879e0$0300a8c0@danwaters> <29f585dd0802151802w3f9fb11dj2ee750aa2373a02e@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <292776BF703F49F98A4258B89E254CA3@creativesystemdesigns.com> Hi All: This Wikipedia article is comprised of 8 sections http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microsoft_Jet_Database_Engine writing by supposedly knowledgeable MDB experts. Below is posted one of the sections. Who can find the most errors?:
Architecture Jet allowed the manipulation of relational database and was part of a Relational Database Management System (RDBMS). It offered a single interface that other software could use to access Microsoft databases and provided support for security, referential integrity, transaction processing, indexing, record and page locking, and data replication. In later versions, the engine was extended to be able to run SQL queries, store character data in Unicode format, create database views and allowed bi-directional replication with Microsoft SQL Server. There were three modules to Jet. One was the Native Jet ISAM Driver, a dynamic link library (DLL) that could directly manipulate Microsoft Access database files (MDB), which was a modified form of an Indexed Sequential Access Method (ISAM) database. Another one of the modules were the ISAM Drivers, DLLs that allowed access to ISAM databases, among them being Xbase, Paradox, Btrieve and FoxPro files. The final module was the Data Access Objects (DAO) DLL, DAO allowed programmers access to the Jet engine. It was basically an object-oriented data language used by Visual Basic for Applications and Visual Basic programmers to access Jet.
There are so many flaws and half truths in this article it will take me a while to know where to start. When we have finally corrected the 8 section the present Wikipedia article can be replaced. Jim -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Arthur Fuller Sent: Friday, February 15, 2008 6:02 PM To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving Subject: Re: [AccessD] Friday/weekend scaring reading: Wikipedia and JET I don't think it's fair to dump all this responsibility to correct this entry upon Gustav. Even though he is a fabulously wealthy magnate with billions to spare and allegedly retired, having nothing better to do than play with scantily clad nympettes and write brilliant VBA code, we ought not foist all this responsibility upon him. Amongst us all, we could revise this entry to be accurate. That's what Wikipedia is all about, IMO. Some dumbass posts his or her take on some subject, and it gets revised by the more knowledgeable set of readers and writers. I've a niece in graduate school whose prof said, "Never trust Wikipedia". I hate this response. It says to me, "I know where the author is incorrect, but rather than post revisions, I shall instead declare the entire enterprise worthless and beneath contempt." Such persons can go fart in the nearest lake, IMO. The whole point of Wikipedia is that we collectively fix its entries. In this narrow and specific example, several of us, if not most, on this list, know considerably more about JET that the author of the existing entry. The original contributor may have thought herself in possession of most or all the facts. Clearly this is not the case. But attacking her (or him) is unproductive: let us fix the entry and let us not foist it upon Gustav to fix it. Let us not issue diatribes about the incorrectness of the original entry, but simply and quietly and without malice render it more accurate. How to coordinate our collective corrections is another issue, but one best manage by Wiki itself. We can all contribute to the history of JET, to the best of our abilities, and render this first submission a good start but since enhanced. A. On Fri, Feb 15, 2008 at 11:49 AM, Dan Waters wrote: > Gustav, > > I think you could modify the Wikipedia entry to be correct! > > Dan > -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From max.wanadoo at gmail.com Sat Feb 16 03:44:47 2008 From: max.wanadoo at gmail.com (Max Wanadoo) Date: Sat, 16 Feb 2008 09:44:47 -0000 Subject: [AccessD] Telephone Reminder System In-Reply-To: <47B60595.1060103@servicexp.com> References: <003a01c86ff2$bc0879e0$0300a8c0@danwaters> <47B60595.1060103@servicexp.com> Message-ID: <001501c87080$91d9bd30$8119fea9@LTVM> Some starts: (word wrap?) http://www.microsoft.com/speech/speech2007/default.mspx http://www.microsoft.com/communities/newsgroups/en-us/default.aspx?dg=micros oft.public.speech_tech.sdk&tid=e6414ca7-a052-4bae-9ae8-290632bdbaa1&cat=&lan g=&cr=&sloc=&p=1 Max -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Robert Sent: Friday, February 15, 2008 9:35 PM To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving Subject: [AccessD] Telephone Reminder System -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Has anyone done any Telephone Reminder System like you see at many doctor offices in access? I need to be able to dial out (phone number) via a standard modem and have a voice (preferably female) read an appointment string. Any leads...? Thanks ~Robert -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.7 (MingW32) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFHtgWV72dSYCwH8FQRAm5eAJ9NZ44khOiu0Iuqv7s43DxgRBGVBACfZc/9 ONVN/3SJiucPudXEGqY/IPg= =mF30 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From max.wanadoo at gmail.com Sat Feb 16 03:48:12 2008 From: max.wanadoo at gmail.com (Max Wanadoo) Date: Sat, 16 Feb 2008 09:48:12 -0000 Subject: [AccessD] Telephone Reminder System In-Reply-To: <47B60595.1060103@servicexp.com> References: <003a01c86ff2$bc0879e0$0300a8c0@danwaters> <47B60595.1060103@servicexp.com> Message-ID: <001601c87081$0c293b60$8119fea9@LTVM> Here is a better one: http://office.microsoft.com/en-us/access/HA010345911033.aspx Max -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Robert Sent: Friday, February 15, 2008 9:35 PM To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving Subject: [AccessD] Telephone Reminder System -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Has anyone done any Telephone Reminder System like you see at many doctor offices in access? I need to be able to dial out (phone number) via a standard modem and have a voice (preferably female) read an appointment string. Any leads...? Thanks ~Robert -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.7 (MingW32) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFHtgWV72dSYCwH8FQRAm5eAJ9NZ44khOiu0Iuqv7s43DxgRBGVBACfZc/9 ONVN/3SJiucPudXEGqY/IPg= =mF30 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From Gustav at cactus.dk Sat Feb 16 06:21:06 2008 From: Gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock) Date: Sat, 16 Feb 2008 13:21:06 +0100 Subject: [AccessD] Telephone Reminder System Message-ID: Hi Robert Women are best suited for this. (Sorry, couldn't resist) More seriously: Access 2.0 had a dialer add-in or something. I can't remember if it made its way via Access 95 to Access 97. /gustav >>> robert at servicexp.com 15-02-2008 22:35 >>> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Has anyone done any Telephone Reminder System like you see at many doctor offices in access? I need to be able to dial out (phone number) via a standard modem and have a voice (preferably female) read an appointment string. Any leads...? Thanks ~Robert From Gustav at cactus.dk Sat Feb 16 06:59:36 2008 From: Gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock) Date: Sat, 16 Feb 2008 13:59:36 +0100 Subject: [AccessD] Friday/weekend scaring reading: Wikipedia and JET Message-ID: Hi Dan Thanks, but first I'm not so sure, second time doesn't allow. I think Arthur has the right approach. Cumulative efforts from our list - as Arthur suggests -could probably be the best way to have the article rewritten. I will happily give my input to this, but to be honest I think several among us know more about the finer details of JET, indeed those who own and have read the book about JET which I have the impression carry true facts only. First thing to do would be to split up the content, like: Overview History (for example: When and how did Rushmore arrive) Evolution Technique, capabilities, compatibility, limitations Programming, language True and false (let's kill all the bad talk and rumours once and for all) Upgrade options (SQL Server engine and CE) Future (JET was given a second life with Access 2007) What about the author of that book? Is he/she around? Could be a splendid source and/or contributor. /gustav >>> dwaters at usinternet.com 15-02-2008 17:49 >>> Gustav, I think you could modify the Wikipedia entry to be correct! Dan -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gustav Brock Sent: Friday, February 15, 2008 3:44 AM To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: [AccessD] Friday/weekend scaring reading: Wikipedia and JET Hi all - or perhaps indeed our JET specialist, Jim Dettman Here is a scaring example that not everything in Wikipidia is to be trusted. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microsoft_Jet_Database_Engine That entry is so full of confusing, mixed up and misleading facts and incorrect version info that a major rewrite is requested. (My time doesn't allow, sorry). And why everything is written in preteritum and not presens as if JET has passed away, I don't know. For example, it fools around from paragraph one with JET, SQL Server and SQL Server Compact Edition - and states that SQL was introduced in "later versions". And if you stand reading through this mess, at the end the author claims transactions to be introduced in JET version 4.0. Much can be said about JET but it certainly deserves a more trustworthy description. /gustav From dwaters at usinternet.com Sat Feb 16 07:27:46 2008 From: dwaters at usinternet.com (Dan Waters) Date: Sat, 16 Feb 2008 07:27:46 -0600 Subject: [AccessD] Friday/weekend scaring reading: Wikipedia and JET In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <001201c8709f$b7bb5e40$0300a8c0@danwaters> Hi Gustav, My response was quickly written without reading the article itself, I was just trying to say that Wikipedia entries can be corrected when needed. Unfortunately I don't know enough myself to participate in writing an article about Jet - but I will certainly look forward to reading it once it is corrected! Dan -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gustav Brock Sent: Saturday, February 16, 2008 7:00 AM To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: Re: [AccessD] Friday/weekend scaring reading: Wikipedia and JET Hi Dan Thanks, but first I'm not so sure, second time doesn't allow. I think Arthur has the right approach. Cumulative efforts from our list - as Arthur suggests -could probably be the best way to have the article rewritten. I will happily give my input to this, but to be honest I think several among us know more about the finer details of JET, indeed those who own and have read the book about JET which I have the impression carry true facts only. First thing to do would be to split up the content, like: Overview History (for example: When and how did Rushmore arrive) Evolution Technique, capabilities, compatibility, limitations Programming, language True and false (let's kill all the bad talk and rumours once and for all) Upgrade options (SQL Server engine and CE) Future (JET was given a second life with Access 2007) What about the author of that book? Is he/she around? Could be a splendid source and/or contributor. /gustav >>> dwaters at usinternet.com 15-02-2008 17:49 >>> Gustav, I think you could modify the Wikipedia entry to be correct! Dan -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gustav Brock Sent: Friday, February 15, 2008 3:44 AM To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: [AccessD] Friday/weekend scaring reading: Wikipedia and JET Hi all - or perhaps indeed our JET specialist, Jim Dettman Here is a scaring example that not everything in Wikipidia is to be trusted. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microsoft_Jet_Database_Engine That entry is so full of confusing, mixed up and misleading facts and incorrect version info that a major rewrite is requested. (My time doesn't allow, sorry). And why everything is written in preteritum and not presens as if JET has passed away, I don't know. For example, it fools around from paragraph one with JET, SQL Server and SQL Server Compact Edition - and states that SQL was introduced in "later versions". And if you stand reading through this mess, at the end the author claims transactions to be introduced in JET version 4.0. Much can be said about JET but it certainly deserves a more trustworthy description. /gustav -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From ssharkins at gmail.com Sat Feb 16 07:53:56 2008 From: ssharkins at gmail.com (Susan Harkins) Date: Sat, 16 Feb 2008 08:53:56 -0500 Subject: [AccessD] Friday/weekend scaring reading: Wikipedia and JET References: <001201c8709f$b7bb5e40$0300a8c0@danwaters> Message-ID: <003d01c870a3$a11e3230$4b3a8343@SusanOne> I'm wondering -- if the group at large contributes, can the group receive a byline for the corrected version? Might be a good way to advertise dba. Susan H. > Hi Gustav, > > My response was quickly written without reading the article itself, I was > just trying to say that Wikipedia entries can be corrected when needed. From accessd at shaw.ca Sat Feb 16 13:52:51 2008 From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence) Date: Sat, 16 Feb 2008 11:52:51 -0800 Subject: [AccessD] New Library on the DBA site In-Reply-To: <003d01c870a3$a11e3230$4b3a8343@SusanOne> References: <001201c8709f$b7bb5e40$0300a8c0@danwaters> <003d01c870a3$a11e3230$4b3a8343@SusanOne> Message-ID: Hi All: There is a new Library section added to the DBA (http://www.databaseadvisors.com) web site. The section is split into 3 modules, one for books, one for articles and one for Podcast. This section is designed to high-lite the creations of list members. The present pages are by no means current or complete and are but a sample of what our members have created. If you have more links and contribution please email me, Jim Lawrence at webmaster at databaseadvisors.com Regards Jim From djkr at msn.com Sat Feb 16 17:14:59 2008 From: djkr at msn.com (DJK(John) Robinson) Date: Sat, 16 Feb 2008 23:14:59 -0000 Subject: [AccessD] Friday/weekend scaring reading: Wikipedia and JET In-Reply-To: <001201c8709f$b7bb5e40$0300a8c0@danwaters> Message-ID: Not wishing to pour cold water on the enterprise, but ... You do realise that carefully-crafted correct entries can then easily be re-mangled by someone else, don't you? And that this does happen? I do sometimes look things up in Wikipedia, but more to see what someone's (possibly mistaken) opinion is, rather than to discover rock-solid fact. You may pick up ideas or terminology to search for in more authoritative places. Put it another way: would you fly in a plane whose designers depended on information from Wikipedia? John -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Dan Waters Sent: 16 February 2008 13:28 To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' Subject: Re: [AccessD] Friday/weekend scaring reading: Wikipedia and JET Hi Gustav, My response was quickly written without reading the article itself, I was just trying to say that Wikipedia entries can be corrected when needed. Unfortunately I don't know enough myself to participate in writing an article about Jet - but I will certainly look forward to reading it once it is corrected! Dan -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gustav Brock Sent: Saturday, February 16, 2008 7:00 AM To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: Re: [AccessD] Friday/weekend scaring reading: Wikipedia and JET Hi Dan Thanks, but first I'm not so sure, second time doesn't allow. I think Arthur has the right approach. Cumulative efforts from our list - as Arthur suggests -could probably be the best way to have the article rewritten. I will happily give my input to this, but to be honest I think several among us know more about the finer details of JET, indeed those who own and have read the book about JET which I have the impression carry true facts only. First thing to do would be to split up the content, like: Overview History (for example: When and how did Rushmore arrive) Evolution Technique, capabilities, compatibility, limitations Programming, language True and false (let's kill all the bad talk and rumours once and for all) Upgrade options (SQL Server engine and CE) Future (JET was given a second life with Access 2007) What about the author of that book? Is he/she around? Could be a splendid source and/or contributor. /gustav >>> dwaters at usinternet.com 15-02-2008 17:49 >>> Gustav, I think you could modify the Wikipedia entry to be correct! Dan -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gustav Brock Sent: Friday, February 15, 2008 3:44 AM To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: [AccessD] Friday/weekend scaring reading: Wikipedia and JET Hi all - or perhaps indeed our JET specialist, Jim Dettman Here is a scaring example that not everything in Wikipidia is to be trusted. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microsoft_Jet_Database_Engine That entry is so full of confusing, mixed up and misleading facts and incorrect version info that a major rewrite is requested. (My time doesn't allow, sorry). And why everything is written in preteritum and not presens as if JET has passed away, I don't know. For example, it fools around from paragraph one with JET, SQL Server and SQL Server Compact Edition - and states that SQL was introduced in "later versions". And if you stand reading through this mess, at the end the author claims transactions to be introduced in JET version 4.0. Much can be said about JET but it certainly deserves a more trustworthy description. /gustav -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From darren at activebilling.com.au Sun Feb 17 05:30:27 2008 From: darren at activebilling.com.au (Darren D) Date: Sun, 17 Feb 2008 22:30:27 +1100 Subject: [AccessD] OT Friday - was Re: Syntax for setting button witheventprocedure In-Reply-To: <569E08FC48047F4F848850B118195FBE019F8F@server.BondSoftware.local> Message-ID: <200802171128.m1HBSpXb032755@databaseadvisors.com> yes a very shameful and regrettable state of affairs that was No need to duck - If was going to be anyone - It had to be a Chappell And against our undeserving neighbours across the ditch too - disgraceful Hey your blokes are firing on all cylinders - Can't wait for Oz and NZ to play Ok I think this post has worn out its OT Tagline - I can hear Andy sharpening the moderator knives :-) See y'all Darren ----------------- -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Stephen Sent: Friday, 15 February 2008 5:10 PM To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving Subject: Re: [AccessD] OT Friday - was Re: Syntax for setting button witheventprocedure Would I open a can of worms by mentioning underarm bowling ? (ducks for cover) ......... Stephen Subject: Re: [AccessD] OT Friday - was Re: Syntax for setting button witheventprocedure Ozi Ozi Ozi oi oi oi :-) Darren ----------------- -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Stuart McLachlan Sent: Friday, 15 February 2008 10:16 AM To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving Subject: [AccessD] OT Friday - was Re: Syntax for setting button with eventprocedure On 15 Feb 2008 at 9:21, Darren D wrote: > LOL > > That's because we are up earlier than you blokes :?) > > Can't wait for the one-dayer today - I know - Bah Humbug - It's not > real cricket > > The One Dayer between Sri-Lanka and Oz last week at the SCG was > awesome - love the SCG As a Kiwi, I support two teams: 1. New Zealand 2. Whoever is playing against Australia -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.20.5 - Release Date: 14/02/2008 12:00 AM No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.20.5 - Release Date: 14/02/2008 12:00 AM -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.20.5 - Release Date: 14/02/2008 12:00 AM No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.20.5 - Release Date: 14/02/2008 12:00 AM From fuller.artful at gmail.com Sun Feb 17 06:51:46 2008 From: fuller.artful at gmail.com (Arthur Fuller) Date: Sun, 17 Feb 2008 07:51:46 -0500 Subject: [AccessD] Baffling Office Situation Message-ID: <29f585dd0802170451p4ed5d390g2a0be4d614cc7f5f@mail.gmail.com> I have recently created a problem with my installation of Office, and it's driving me nuts. For some reason, DAO won't install. I have removed all Office instances (2000, 2003 and the trial of 2007), then run the "completely remove Office" utility, then re-installed again, beginning with 2000 -- to no avail. DAO doesn't install. It's driving me nuts, particularly because I have to do some work on an existing app that uses DAO and I cannot even get to Square One. Has anyone encountered anything like this before? Any suggestions how I can fix it? I do have one last resort, but it's inconvenient. I have another box which is currently in storage about 60 miles away, and its installation is fine. So if push comes to shove I can go get it, but it irks me that my main box is suffering this problem. Any advice will be greatly appreciated. TIA, Arthur From max.wanadoo at gmail.com Sun Feb 17 07:45:41 2008 From: max.wanadoo at gmail.com (Max Wanadoo) Date: Sun, 17 Feb 2008 13:45:41 -0000 Subject: [AccessD] Baffling Office Situation In-Reply-To: <29f585dd0802170451p4ed5d390g2a0be4d614cc7f5f@mail.gmail.com> References: <29f585dd0802170451p4ed5d390g2a0be4d614cc7f5f@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <002401c8716b$64cdd6f0$8119fea9@LTVM> Arthur: This link promises a 94% cure for your problem. (watch w/wrap) http://dll-repair-tools.com/ppc/index.php?t=dao360&con=472&gclid=CKqKhqity5E CFSHpXgodYkHqyQ NB. On my system DAO shows up under References as c:\Program Files\Common Files\Microsoft Shared\DAO\dao360.dll. It also appears in multiple places in my Registry, so you maybe should also have removed all references to it from the Registry before re-installing.........Perhaps the link will work. Max ps Googling for "dao360.dll" produced lots of hits, so it appears to be a common problem. -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Arthur Fuller Sent: Sunday, February 17, 2008 12:52 PM To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving Subject: [AccessD] Baffling Office Situation I have recently created a problem with my installation of Office, and it's driving me nuts. For some reason, DAO won't install. I have removed all Office instances (2000, 2003 and the trial of 2007), then run the "completely remove Office" utility, then re-installed again, beginning with 2000 -- to no avail. DAO doesn't install. It's driving me nuts, particularly because I have to do some work on an existing app that uses DAO and I cannot even get to Square One. Has anyone encountered anything like this before? Any suggestions how I can fix it? I do have one last resort, but it's inconvenient. I have another box which is currently in storage about 60 miles away, and its installation is fine. So if push comes to shove I can go get it, but it irks me that my main box is suffering this problem. Any advice will be greatly appreciated. TIA, Arthur -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From max.wanadoo at gmail.com Sun Feb 17 07:58:48 2008 From: max.wanadoo at gmail.com (Max Wanadoo) Date: Sun, 17 Feb 2008 13:58:48 -0000 Subject: [AccessD] Baffling Office Situation In-Reply-To: <29f585dd0802170451p4ed5d390g2a0be4d614cc7f5f@mail.gmail.com> References: <29f585dd0802170451p4ed5d390g2a0be4d614cc7f5f@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <002501c8716d$38c66840$8119fea9@LTVM> This is also worth a look at: http://allenbrowne.com/ser-38.html Maxi -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Arthur Fuller Sent: Sunday, February 17, 2008 12:52 PM To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving Subject: [AccessD] Baffling Office Situation I have recently created a problem with my installation of Office, and it's driving me nuts. For some reason, DAO won't install. I have removed all Office instances (2000, 2003 and the trial of 2007), then run the "completely remove Office" utility, then re-installed again, beginning with 2000 -- to no avail. DAO doesn't install. It's driving me nuts, particularly because I have to do some work on an existing app that uses DAO and I cannot even get to Square One. Has anyone encountered anything like this before? Any suggestions how I can fix it? I do have one last resort, but it's inconvenient. I have another box which is currently in storage about 60 miles away, and its installation is fine. So if push comes to shove I can go get it, but it irks me that my main box is suffering this problem. Any advice will be greatly appreciated. TIA, Arthur -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From DWUTKA at Marlow.com Sun Feb 17 11:16:50 2008 From: DWUTKA at Marlow.com (Drew Wutka) Date: Sun, 17 Feb 2008 11:16:50 -0600 Subject: [AccessD] Baffling Office Situation In-Reply-To: <29f585dd0802170451p4ed5d390g2a0be4d614cc7f5f@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Not sure how to fix your problem, but Virtual PC would save you a drive. ;) Drew -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Arthur Fuller Sent: Sunday, February 17, 2008 6:52 AM To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving Subject: [AccessD] Baffling Office Situation I have recently created a problem with my installation of Office, and it's driving me nuts. For some reason, DAO won't install. I have removed all Office instances (2000, 2003 and the trial of 2007), then run the "completely remove Office" utility, then re-installed again, beginning with 2000 -- to no avail. DAO doesn't install. It's driving me nuts, particularly because I have to do some work on an existing app that uses DAO and I cannot even get to Square One. Has anyone encountered anything like this before? Any suggestions how I can fix it? I do have one last resort, but it's inconvenient. I have another box which is currently in storage about 60 miles away, and its installation is fine. So if push comes to shove I can go get it, but it irks me that my main box is suffering this problem. Any advice will be greatly appreciated. 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From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com Sun Feb 17 11:28:18 2008 From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (jwcolby) Date: Sun, 17 Feb 2008 12:28:18 -0500 Subject: [AccessD] Baffling Office Situation In-Reply-To: <29f585dd0802170451p4ed5d390g2a0be4d614cc7f5f@mail.gmail.com> References: <29f585dd0802170451p4ed5d390g2a0be4d614cc7f5f@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <014301c8718a$7ca93a70$0401a8c0@M90> So what you are saying is that DAO is DOA? ;-) John W. Colby Colby Consulting www.ColbyConsulting.com -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Arthur Fuller Sent: Sunday, February 17, 2008 7:52 AM To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving Subject: [AccessD] Baffling Office Situation I have recently created a problem with my installation of Office, and it's driving me nuts. For some reason, DAO won't install. I have removed all Office instances (2000, 2003 and the trial of 2007), then run the "completely remove Office" utility, then re-installed again, beginning with 2000 -- to no avail. DAO doesn't install. It's driving me nuts, particularly because I have to do some work on an existing app that uses DAO and I cannot even get to Square One. Has anyone encountered anything like this before? Any suggestions how I can fix it? I do have one last resort, but it's inconvenient. I have another box which is currently in storage about 60 miles away, and its installation is fine. So if push comes to shove I can go get it, but it irks me that my main box is suffering this problem. Any advice will be greatly appreciated. TIA, Arthur -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From fuller.artful at gmail.com Sun Feb 17 11:59:24 2008 From: fuller.artful at gmail.com (Arthur Fuller) Date: Sun, 17 Feb 2008 12:59:24 -0500 Subject: [AccessD] Baffling Office Situation In-Reply-To: <002501c8716d$38c66840$8119fea9@LTVM> References: <29f585dd0802170451p4ed5d390g2a0be4d614cc7f5f@mail.gmail.com> <002501c8716d$38c66840$8119fea9@LTVM> Message-ID: <29f585dd0802170959s45e47d3v9babefbc0e46fcd9@mail.gmail.com> This one appears to have fixed it. The other one identified lots of errors but wanted money to fix them, so I went with Allen Browne's solution and it appears to have worked. Thanks, A. On Sun, Feb 17, 2008 at 8:58 AM, Max Wanadoo wrote: > This is also worth a look at: > > http://allenbrowne.com/ser-38.html > > Maxi > > > From john at winhaven.net Sun Feb 17 13:24:35 2008 From: john at winhaven.net (John Bartow) Date: Sun, 17 Feb 2008 13:24:35 -0600 Subject: [AccessD] Baffling Office Situation In-Reply-To: <29f585dd0802170959s45e47d3v9babefbc0e46fcd9@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <200802171924.m1HJORg4005032@databaseadvisors.com> It's a shame he isn't a BDA list member. -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Arthur Fuller Sent: Sunday, February 17, 2008 11:59 AM To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving Subject: Re: [AccessD] Baffling Office Situation This one appears to have fixed it. The other one identified lots of errors but wanted money to fix them, so I went with Allen Browne's solution and it appears to have worked. From john at winhaven.net Sun Feb 17 15:08:14 2008 From: john at winhaven.net (John Bartow) Date: Sun, 17 Feb 2008 15:08:14 -0600 Subject: [AccessD] Baffling Office Situation In-Reply-To: <200802171924.m1HJORg4005032@databaseadvisors.com> Message-ID: <200802172108.m1HL8408022356@databaseadvisors.com> Oops, let me retype that... It's a shame he isn't a DBA (AccessD) list member. -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Arthur Fuller Sent: Sunday, February 17, 2008 11:59 AM To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving Subject: Re: [AccessD] Baffling Office Situation This one appears to have fixed it. The other one identified lots of errors but wanted money to fix them, so I went with Allen Browne's solution and it appears to have worked. From Darryl.Collins at coles.com.au Sun Feb 17 16:44:50 2008 From: Darryl.Collins at coles.com.au (Darryl Collins) Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2008 09:44:50 +1100 Subject: [AccessD] Set Reference using VBA Message-ID: <49DFE57FB126044B8A8B934E7AEA09ED09FD6F43@WPEXCH05.colesmyer.ad.cmltd.net.au> Hey all, I know this can be done in Excel and am hoping it can be done in access. Can I get Access to look for and set a reference to a .dll file using code? Bascially I want to automate the (from the VBE) Tools > Reference > Set Reference > (Browse > select > Ok). Many thanks Regards Darryl. This email and any attachments may contain privileged and confidential information and are intended for the named addressee only. If you have received this e-mail in error, please notify the sender and delete this e-mail immediately. Any confidentiality, privilege or copyright is not waived or lost because this e-mail has been sent to you in error. 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From darren at activebilling.com.au Sun Feb 17 17:44:33 2008 From: darren at activebilling.com.au (Darren D) Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2008 10:44:33 +1100 Subject: [AccessD] Set Reference using VBA In-Reply-To: <49DFE57FB126044B8A8B934E7AEA09ED09FD6F43@WPEXCH05.colesmyer.ad.cmltd.net.au> Message-ID: <200802172342.m1HNgrUg013079@databaseadvisors.com> Hi Darryl I do have some semi complex code that does what you need - But we will try simple first You can wrap a line like the one below in a shell call behind a button or in an OnLoad event Somethinglike ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Dim strRegPath as string strRegPath = "regsvr32 c:\program files\common files\microsoft shared\dao\dao360.dll" Call Shell (strRegPath, WIN_NORMAL) ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ - That should work - You may have to play about with quotes - not sure You can then set up variables for passing the relevant DLL etc Darren ----------------- T: 1300 301 731 -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Darryl Collins Sent: Monday, 18 February 2008 9:45 AM To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving Subject: [AccessD] Set Reference using VBA Hey all, I know this can be done in Excel and am hoping it can be done in access. Can I get Access to look for and set a reference to a .dll file using code? Bascially I want to automate the (from the VBE) Tools > Reference > Set Reference > (Browse > select > Ok). Many thanks Regards Darryl. This email and any attachments may contain privileged and confidential information and are intended for the named addressee only. If you have received this e-mail in error, please notify the sender and delete this e-mail immediately. Any confidentiality, privilege or copyright is not waived or lost because this e-mail has been sent to you in error. It is your responsibility to check this e-mail and any attachments for viruses. No warranty is made that this material is free from computer virus or any other defect or error. Any loss/damage incurred by using this material is not the sender's responsibility. The sender's entire liability will be limited to resupplying the material. -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.20.5 - Release Date: 14/02/2008 12:00 AM No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.20.5 - Release Date: 14/02/2008 12:00 AM From Darryl.Collins at coles.com.au Sun Feb 17 19:19:45 2008 From: Darryl.Collins at coles.com.au (Darryl Collins) Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2008 12:19:45 +1100 Subject: [AccessD] Set Reference using VBA Message-ID: <49DFE57FB126044B8A8B934E7AEA09ED0B270220@WPEXCH05.colesmyer.ad.cmltd.net.au> hmmmm... I think I have this solved. Just for the archives here is what works. A brief background. I have a dll file (MouseWheel.dll) that I need to be recognised and set as a reference. The file *cannot* be placed in c:\program files\common files\microsoft shared\ and I cannot access the registry due to admin restrictions. It currently sits on a network drive and can be manually setup from there using TOOLS > References > etc via the VBE. I want to perform the same thing but using VBA code. '------------------------------------------------------------------ Function ReferenceFromFile(strFileName As String) As Boolean Dim ref As Reference On Error GoTo Error_ReferenceFromFile Set ref = References.AddFromFile(strFileName) ReferenceFromFile = True Exit_ReferenceFromFile: Exit Function Error_ReferenceFromFile: MsgBox Err & ": " & Err.Description ReferenceFromFile = False Resume Exit_ReferenceFromFile End Function '-------------------------------------------- Sub CreateCalendarReference() Dim sPATH As String sPATH = "\\dingo\grpdata\IT Project Status Reporting\Icons\MouseWheel.dll" If ReferenceFromFile(sPATH) = True Then MsgBox "Reference set successfully." Else MsgBox "Reference not set successfully." End If End Sub '------------------------------------------------------------------------- -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Darren D Sent: Monday, 18 February 2008 10:45 AM To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' Subject: Re: [AccessD] Set Reference using VBA Hi Darryl I do have some semi complex code that does what you need - But we will try simple first You can wrap a line like the one below in a shell call behind a button or in an OnLoad event Somethinglike ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Dim strRegPath as string strRegPath = "regsvr32 c:\program files\common files\microsoft shared\dao\dao360.dll" Call Shell (strRegPath, WIN_NORMAL) ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ - That should work - You may have to play about with quotes - not sure You can then set up variables for passing the relevant DLL etc Darren ----------------- T: 1300 301 731 -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Darryl Collins Sent: Monday, 18 February 2008 9:45 AM To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving Subject: [AccessD] Set Reference using VBA Hey all, I know this can be done in Excel and am hoping it can be done in access. Can I get Access to look for and set a reference to a .dll file using code? Bascially I want to automate the (from the VBE) Tools > Reference > Set Reference > (Browse > select > Ok). Many thanks Regards Darryl. This email and any attachments may contain privileged and confidential information and are intended for the named addressee only. If you have received this e-mail in error, please notify the sender and delete this e-mail immediately. Any confidentiality, privilege or copyright is not waived or lost because this e-mail has been sent to you in error. It is your responsibility to check this e-mail and any attachments for viruses. No warranty is made that this material is free from computer virus or any other defect or error. Any loss/damage incurred by using this material is not the sender's responsibility. The sender's entire liability will be limited to resupplying the material. -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.20.5 - Release Date: 14/02/2008 12:00 AM No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.20.5 - Release Date: 14/02/2008 12:00 AM -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com This email and any attachments may contain privileged and confidential information and are intended for the named addressee only. If you have received this e-mail in error, please notify the sender and delete this e-mail immediately. Any confidentiality, privilege or copyright is not waived or lost because this e-mail has been sent to you in error. It is your responsibility to check this e-mail and any attachments for viruses. No warranty is made that this material is free from computer virus or any other defect or error. Any loss/damage incurred by using this material is not the sender's responsibility. The sender's entire liability will be limited to resupplying the material. From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com Sun Feb 17 22:47:18 2008 From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (jwcolby) Date: Sun, 17 Feb 2008 23:47:18 -0500 Subject: [AccessD] Poll: System Memory amount Message-ID: <014d01c871e9$57d38de0$0401a8c0@M90> Memory is incredibly cheap at least in the US. I am interested in how much memory you guys run on your desktops. 1) What OS do you run on your personal / work machines. 2) What do you consider the minimum useful memory for running Windows XP. 3) How much do you have in your machine(s) 4) Are you comfortable adding memory to your machine(s) 5) How do you set up your swap files? My answers: 1) XP Professional, 2003 standard. 2) 512 mbytes 3) 4 gigs in desktops, 2 gigs in laptops 4) Yes 5) System administered on C:, 2X system memory on each additional drive John W. Colby Colby Consulting www.ColbyConsulting.com From fuller.artful at gmail.com Mon Feb 18 07:56:47 2008 From: fuller.artful at gmail.com (Arthur Fuller) Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2008 08:56:47 -0500 Subject: [AccessD] Upper Case Input Mask Message-ID: <29f585dd0802180556u25d7c53bo1297aae0e4192fd0@mail.gmail.com> To force upper case in a given field, Is it enough just to put ">" at the beginning of the mask, or do you have to supply a marker for each place in the string? TIA, Arthur From rockysmolin at bchacc.com Mon Feb 18 08:27:26 2008 From: rockysmolin at bchacc.com (Rocky Smolin at Beach Access Software) Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2008 06:27:26 -0800 Subject: [AccessD] Vista SP1 Message-ID: <001d01c8723a$630c01a0$0301a8c0@HAL9005> I was notified this morning by the Microsoft Partner Program that there is an SP1 for Vista. http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/windowsvista/bb738089.aspx I don't use Vista yet. Rocky From fuller.artful at gmail.com Mon Feb 18 08:45:53 2008 From: fuller.artful at gmail.com (Arthur Fuller) Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2008 09:45:53 -0500 Subject: [AccessD] Now what's wrong? Message-ID: <29f585dd0802180645u7c8ecc70x31b4b651a4958a0d@mail.gmail.com> This may be pursuant to my previously reported problem about DAO not being registered, or not. That part of the problem is solved, but something else has arisen. As I'm knocking together an app-prototype, I'm using the switchboard code, and it's crashing on this line: Set con = Application.CurrentProject.Connection 'straight as generated; declaration line above is Dim con as Object What's up with this? A2K3 with SP3 applied. TIA, Arthur From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com Mon Feb 18 08:57:23 2008 From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (jwcolby) Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2008 09:57:23 -0500 Subject: [AccessD] Vista SP1 In-Reply-To: <001d01c8723a$630c01a0$0301a8c0@HAL9005> References: <001d01c8723a$630c01a0$0301a8c0@HAL9005> Message-ID: <015d01c8723e$91c58940$0401a8c0@M90> I don't use it either yet. I am about to bring up virtual server and run it as a virtual machine. John W. Colby Colby Consulting www.ColbyConsulting.com -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Rocky Smolin at Beach Access Software Sent: Monday, February 18, 2008 9:27 AM To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' Subject: [AccessD] Vista SP1 I was notified this morning by the Microsoft Partner Program that there is an SP1 for Vista. http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/windowsvista/bb738089.aspx I don't use Vista yet. Rocky -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com Mon Feb 18 10:56:16 2008 From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (jwcolby) Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2008 11:56:16 -0500 Subject: [AccessD] Word direct merge from query Message-ID: <016201c8724f$2dcef5a0$0401a8c0@M90> I have been doing a mailmerge using a text file to hold the data to be pulled into the document. I would like to hear about the experiences of anyone who is using a query to pull the data straight out of Access. Does word actually OPEN an instance of Access to do this? Can I feed it a pointer to the already open FE? I was using the following code. I commented out the OpenDataSource line that pulled from a text document and TRIED to use a query directly in the FE. That resulted in locking up the FE. the opensource line never returned. Private Function mMergeWordDoc() As Boolean On Error GoTo Err_mMergeWordDoc Dim AppWord As Object Dim lMerge As Object Dim lDoc As Object Set AppWord = CreateObject("Word.Application") With AppWord .Visible = True .Documents.Open (mclsMMDocName.pLocalFileSpec) Set lMerge = .ActiveDocument.MailMerge 'lMerge.OpenDataSource mclsMMDocName.pLocalDataFileSpec, wdOpenFormatText lMerge.OpenDataSource _ Name:="c:\DISFE\DISCO_FE.mdb", _ LinkToSource:=True, AddToRecentFiles:=False, _ Connection:="QUERY mstrQueryName", _ SQLStatement:="SELECT * FROM [mstrQueryName]" lMerge.Execute Set lDoc = .Documents(.Documents.Count - 1) lDoc.SaveAs mclsMMDocName.pNetworkFileSpec End With mMergeWordDoc = True Exit_mMergeWordDoc: On Error Resume Next AppWord.Quit savechanges:=False Set lMerge = Nothing Set lMerge = Nothing Set AppWord = Nothing Exit Function Err_mMergeWordDoc: LogErr Err.Number, Err.Description, Erl, cstrmodule, "mMergeWordDoc" Resume Exit_mMergeWordDoc Resume 0 '.FOR TROUBLESHOOTING End Function John W. Colby Colby Consulting www.ColbyConsulting.com From jedi at charm.net Mon Feb 18 10:56:27 2008 From: jedi at charm.net (Michael Bahr) Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2008 11:56:27 -0500 (EST) Subject: [AccessD] Poll: System Memory amount In-Reply-To: <014d01c871e9$57d38de0$0401a8c0@M90> References: <014d01c871e9$57d38de0$0401a8c0@M90> Message-ID: <1144.24.35.45.228.1203353787.squirrel@mail.expedient.net> 1. XP Pro 2. 1 GB 3. 3 GB 4. Yes, I have to--I built my own machines :-) 5. A 5 GB partition; all other page files disabled on other partitions. Manually tell Windows to set a 3GB-3GB min-max page file. Also includes setting browser temp files to this partition. Mike... > Memory is incredibly cheap at least in the US. I am interested in how > much > memory you guys run on your desktops. > > 1) What OS do you run on your personal / work machines. > 2) What do you consider the minimum useful memory for running Windows XP. > 3) How much do you have in your machine(s) > 4) Are you comfortable adding memory to your machine(s) > 5) How do you set up your swap files? > > My answers: > 1) XP Professional, 2003 standard. > 2) 512 mbytes > 3) 4 gigs in desktops, 2 gigs in laptops > 4) Yes > 5) System administered on C:, 2X system memory on each additional drive > > John W. Colby > Colby Consulting > www.ColbyConsulting.com > > -- > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > From bheid at sc.rr.com Mon Feb 18 11:21:33 2008 From: bheid at sc.rr.com (Bobby Heid) Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2008 12:21:33 -0500 Subject: [AccessD] Poll: System Memory amount In-Reply-To: <014d01c871e9$57d38de0$0401a8c0@M90> References: <014d01c871e9$57d38de0$0401a8c0@M90> Message-ID: <006801c87252$b54fa6c0$1feef440$@rr.com> 1) Vista Business 2) 512MB 3) 2GB 4) Yes 5) 64K (for mini dump) on c:, 4GB fixed on other drives. Bobby -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of jwcolby Sent: Sunday, February 17, 2008 11:47 PM To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'; 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues' Subject: [AccessD] Poll: System Memory amount Memory is incredibly cheap at least in the US. I am interested in how much memory you guys run on your desktops. 1) What OS do you run on your personal / work machines. 2) What do you consider the minimum useful memory for running Windows XP. 3) How much do you have in your machine(s) 4) Are you comfortable adding memory to your machine(s) 5) How do you set up your swap files? My answers: 1) XP Professional, 2003 standard. 2) 512 mbytes 3) 4 gigs in desktops, 2 gigs in laptops 4) Yes 5) System administered on C:, 2X system memory on each additional drive John W. Colby Colby Consulting www.ColbyConsulting.com From bheid at sc.rr.com Mon Feb 18 11:22:45 2008 From: bheid at sc.rr.com (Bobby Heid) Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2008 12:22:45 -0500 Subject: [AccessD] Vista SP1 In-Reply-To: <015d01c8723e$91c58940$0401a8c0@M90> References: <001d01c8723a$630c01a0$0301a8c0@HAL9005> <015d01c8723e$91c58940$0401a8c0@M90> Message-ID: <006901c87252$e0a91040$a1fb30c0$@rr.com> I have installed it on my Vista Business machine and have had no issues so far (about 4 days now). File copies do seem much faster now. Bobby -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of jwcolby Sent: Monday, February 18, 2008 9:57 AM To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' Subject: Re: [AccessD] Vista SP1 I don't use it either yet. I am about to bring up virtual server and run it as a virtual machine. John W. Colby Colby Consulting www.ColbyConsulting.com -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Rocky Smolin at Beach Access Software Sent: Monday, February 18, 2008 9:27 AM To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' Subject: [AccessD] Vista SP1 I was notified this morning by the Microsoft Partner Program that there is an SP1 for Vista. http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/windowsvista/bb738089.aspx I don't use Vista yet. Rocky From bheid at sc.rr.com Mon Feb 18 11:23:33 2008 From: bheid at sc.rr.com (Bobby Heid) Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2008 12:23:33 -0500 Subject: [AccessD] Now what's wrong? In-Reply-To: <29f585dd0802180645u7c8ecc70x31b4b651a4958a0d@mail.gmail.com> References: <29f585dd0802180645u7c8ecc70x31b4b651a4958a0d@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <006a01c87252$fce770d0$f6b65270$@rr.com> Do you still have references to ADO set also? Bobby -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Arthur Fuller Sent: Monday, February 18, 2008 9:46 AM To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving Subject: [AccessD] Now what's wrong? This may be pursuant to my previously reported problem about DAO not being registered, or not. That part of the problem is solved, but something else has arisen. As I'm knocking together an app-prototype, I'm using the switchboard code, and it's crashing on this line: Set con = Application.CurrentProject.Connection 'straight as generated; declaration line above is Dim con as Object What's up with this? A2K3 with SP3 applied. TIA, Arthur -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From drboz at pacbell.net Mon Feb 18 11:34:56 2008 From: drboz at pacbell.net (Don Bozarth) Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2008 09:34:56 -0800 Subject: [AccessD] Poll: System Memory amount References: <014d01c871e9$57d38de0$0401a8c0@M90> <006801c87252$b54fa6c0$1feef440$@rr.com> Message-ID: <004c01c87254$94b2e330$6701a8c0@Don> 1) What OS do you run on your personal / work machines. - Windows XP 2) What do you consider the minimum useful memory for running Windows XP. - 1Gb 3) How much do you have in your machine(s) - 3Gb 4) Are you comfortable adding memory to your machine(s) - Yes 5) How do you set up your swap files? - Windows default (yeah, I know... yuck!!) Don B. From markamatte at hotmail.com Mon Feb 18 11:36:43 2008 From: markamatte at hotmail.com (Mark A Matte) Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2008 17:36:43 +0000 Subject: [AccessD] Now what's wrong? In-Reply-To: <29f585dd0802180645u7c8ecc70x31b4b651a4958a0d@mail.gmail.com> References: <29f585dd0802180645u7c8ecc70x31b4b651a4958a0d@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Arthur, I'm not saying this is your issue...but I had a similar DAO issue last year and I found some interesting info that explained the UNexplained errors. Turns out in some instances...when using DAO 3.6...you have to have DAO 3.51 on the machine...NOT selected in References...just there. There are some threads in our archives Search criteria "matte dao 3.5" Here is an MS reference to the issue: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/303829 Again NOT saying this is your issue...but after hunting down the problem above...I can confidently say...that just because a dll is not 'checked' in references, does NOT mean it is not used. Good Luck, Mark A. Matte > Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2008 09:45:53 -0500 > From: fuller.artful at gmail.com > To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com > Subject: [AccessD] Now what's wrong? > > This may be pursuant to my previously reported problem about DAO not being > registered, or not. That part of the problem is solved, but something else > has arisen. As I'm knocking together an app-prototype, I'm using the > switchboard code, and it's crashing on this line: > > > Set con = Application.CurrentProject.Connection 'straight as > generated; declaration line above is Dim con as Object > > > What's up with this? > > A2K3 with SP3 applied. > > TIA, > Arthur > -- > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com _________________________________________________________________ Need to know the score, the latest news, or you need your Hotmail?-get your "fix". http://www.msnmobilefix.com/Default.aspx From jimdettman at verizon.net Mon Feb 18 13:49:49 2008 From: jimdettman at verizon.net (Jim Dettman) Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2008 14:49:49 -0500 Subject: [AccessD] [OT]: RE: Poll: System Memory amount In-Reply-To: <014d01c871e9$57d38de0$0401a8c0@M90> References: <014d01c871e9$57d38de0$0401a8c0@M90> Message-ID: <035e01c87267$6bdf1880$8abea8c0@XPS> 1. XP, some multi OS with Windows 98 and 2000. 2. 1GB 3. 2GB 4. Let Windows manage. Right now, it's sitting at 1536MB. Jim. -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of jwcolby Sent: Sunday, February 17, 2008 11:47 PM To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'; 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues' Subject: [AccessD] Poll: System Memory amount Memory is incredibly cheap at least in the US. I am interested in how much memory you guys run on your desktops. 1) What OS do you run on your personal / work machines. 2) What do you consider the minimum useful memory for running Windows XP. 3) How much do you have in your machine(s) 4) Are you comfortable adding memory to your machine(s) 5) How do you set up your swap files? My answers: 1) XP Professional, 2003 standard. 2) 512 mbytes 3) 4 gigs in desktops, 2 gigs in laptops 4) Yes 5) System administered on C:, 2X system memory on each additional drive John W. Colby Colby Consulting www.ColbyConsulting.com -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From DWUTKA at Marlow.com Mon Feb 18 14:39:29 2008 From: DWUTKA at Marlow.com (Drew Wutka) Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2008 14:39:29 -0600 Subject: [AccessD] Poll: System Memory amount In-Reply-To: <014d01c871e9$57d38de0$0401a8c0@M90> Message-ID: Machines: 1: Work Desktop 2: Work Laptop 3: Home Desktop 4: Spare work/Home Laptop 1) 1: Windows 2003, 2: Windows XP (Came with Vista...Office 97 won't install on that), 3: Windows 2000 Server, 4: Windows XP 2) 1 gig. If you want to use Virtual environments, at least 2 gigs. 3) 1:4 gig, 2: 2 gig, 3: 512 megs, 4: 1 gig 4) Yep. 5) Honestly, in modern machines, I don't modify a thing, I let windows do it. That applies to my machines 1, 2, and 3. Home machine, I have a gig on one of the drives. The reason I say that I don't feel it matters much on home machines, is that drives are getting faster, and memory is getting BIGGER, so swap files aren't anywhere near as critical as they used to be. Note: Machine #2 has 2 hard drives....wow, laptop with two drives, that is just too sweet of a system! Drew -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of jwcolby Sent: Sunday, February 17, 2008 10:47 PM To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'; 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues' Subject: [AccessD] Poll: System Memory amount Memory is incredibly cheap at least in the US. I am interested in how much memory you guys run on your desktops. 1) What OS do you run on your personal / work machines. 2) What do you consider the minimum useful memory for running Windows XP. 3) How much do you have in your machine(s) 4) Are you comfortable adding memory to your machine(s) 5) How do you set up your swap files? My answers: 1) XP Professional, 2003 standard. 2) 512 mbytes 3) 4 gigs in desktops, 2 gigs in laptops 4) Yes 5) System administered on C:, 2X system memory on each additional drive John W. Colby Colby Consulting www.ColbyConsulting.com -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com The information contained in this transmission is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain II-VI Proprietary and/or II-VI Business Sensitive material. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender immediately and destroy the material in its entirety, whether electronic or hard copy. You are notified that any review, retransmission, copying, disclosure, dissemination, or other use of, or taking of any action in reliance upon this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient is prohibited. From kp at sdsonline.net Mon Feb 18 17:25:45 2008 From: kp at sdsonline.net (Kath Pelletti) Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2008 10:25:45 +1100 Subject: [AccessD] help - syntax for subform Message-ID: <000e01c87285$97483dd0$6401a8c0@DELLAPTOP> Can anyone help with syntax needed here..... I have been working on a routine called SecureForm() which locks/disable controls for any form which is passed to it. The routine is called on each form's 'On Load' event and works fine for main forms by passing the 'me.name' string. I now need to add code to the OnLoad of the subforms as well .....so I need to pass it the FULL name of the subform (including the full reference to the parent name), not just the name of the subform itself. I have been mucking around with the parent property with no luck so in the code below I am trying to get around the error by actually typing in the name of the subform but even that is giving me the same error. ------------------------------ Code is: 'Call SecureForm function which locks controls, depending on which user group is logged in. 'strformname = Me.Name 'this works for main forms but not subforms strformname = "Forms!FrmPersonDetails!FrmSubformPeopleatWorkplace" Call SecureForm(strformname) ---------------------------------------- Kath ______________________________________ Kath Pelletti Software Design and Solutions Pty Ltd Ph: 9505-6714 Fax: 9505-6430 kp at sdsonline.net From darren at activebilling.com.au Mon Feb 18 17:44:31 2008 From: darren at activebilling.com.au (Darren D) Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2008 10:44:31 +1100 Subject: [AccessD] help - syntax for subform In-Reply-To: <000e01c87285$97483dd0$6401a8c0@DELLAPTOP> Message-ID: <200802182342.m1INgmXI010465@databaseadvisors.com> Hi Kath I think strformname = "Forms!FrmPersonDetails!FrmSubformPeopleatWorkplace" may need to become strformname = "Forms!FrmPersonDetails.form.FrmSubformPeopleatWorkplace" I added the .form. between your main form name and your subform name Lemme know if this works or not I think Darryl actually said something like this in answer to your post last week but we were trying to make things generic rather than specific as we are now - so it slipped past There are also ways to make this generic by passing... Me.Name & ".form." & strSubFormName - to build the full string There are many ways to do this type of thing - this is just air code (from an air head ) Ahem did anyone see the amazing aussies snatch victory from the jaws of defeat the other night (Aimed Mainly at Stuart and Andy) Have a great day y'all Darren ----------------- T: 1300 301 731 -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Kath Pelletti Sent: Tuesday, 19 February 2008 10:26 AM To: Access D Normal List Subject: [AccessD] help - syntax for subform Can anyone help with syntax needed here..... I have been working on a routine called SecureForm() which locks/disable controls for any form which is passed to it. The routine is called on each form's 'On Load' event and works fine for main forms by passing the 'me.name' string. I now need to add code to the OnLoad of the subforms as well .....so I need to pass it the FULL name of the subform (including the full reference to the parent name), not just the name of the subform itself. I have been mucking around with the parent property with no luck so in the code below I am trying to get around the error by actually typing in the name of the subform but even that is giving me the same error. ------------------------------ Code is: 'Call SecureForm function which locks controls, depending on which user group is logged in. 'strformname = Me.Name 'this works for main forms but not subforms strformname = "Forms!FrmPersonDetails!FrmSubformPeopleatWorkplace" Call SecureForm(strformname) ---------------------------------------- Kath ______________________________________ Kath Pelletti Software Design and Solutions Pty Ltd Ph: 9505-6714 Fax: 9505-6430 kp at sdsonline.net -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.20.5 - Release Date: 14/02/2008 12:00 AM No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.20.5 - Release Date: 14/02/2008 12:00 AM From darren at activebilling.com.au Mon Feb 18 17:46:39 2008 From: darren at activebilling.com.au (Darren D) Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2008 10:46:39 +1100 Subject: [AccessD] Upper Case Input Mask In-Reply-To: <29f585dd0802180556u25d7c53bo1297aae0e4192fd0@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <200802182345.m1INivmc011013@databaseadvisors.com> Hi Arthur I do recall that being the case - but I am in the habit now of doing it in say... the after update of the field using the built in UCASE() function Not sure what version UCASE() became a std function in though - check your version has it EG SomeField_AfterUpdate() Me.SomeField = Ucase(SomeField) End sub I find working with masks is a real PITA sometimes Darren ----------------- T: 1300 301 731 -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Arthur Fuller Sent: Tuesday, 19 February 2008 12:57 AM To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving Subject: [AccessD] Upper Case Input Mask To force upper case in a given field, Is it enough just to put ">" at the beginning of the mask, or do you have to supply a marker for each place in the string? TIA, Arthur -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.20.5 - Release Date: 14/02/2008 12:00 AM No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.20.5 - Release Date: 14/02/2008 12:00 AM From dwaters at usinternet.com Mon Feb 18 17:45:23 2008 From: dwaters at usinternet.com (Dan Waters) Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2008 17:45:23 -0600 Subject: [AccessD] help - syntax for subform In-Reply-To: <000e01c87285$97483dd0$6401a8c0@DELLAPTOP> References: <000e01c87285$97483dd0$6401a8c0@DELLAPTOP> Message-ID: <000901c87288$54a223d0$0300a8c0@danwaters> Try this: strFormName = Forms("frmPersonDetails")("subPeopleAtWork").Form.Name In this example 'frmPersonDetails' is the main form. And subPeopleAtWork is the subform control (not the form). And .Form is the form within the subform control. And .Name is the name of the form in the subform control. HTH! Dan -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Kath Pelletti Sent: Monday, February 18, 2008 5:26 PM To: Access D Normal List Subject: [AccessD] help - syntax for subform Can anyone help with syntax needed here..... I have been working on a routine called SecureForm() which locks/disable controls for any form which is passed to it. The routine is called on each form's 'On Load' event and works fine for main forms by passing the 'me.name' string. I now need to add code to the OnLoad of the subforms as well .....so I need to pass it the FULL name of the subform (including the full reference to the parent name), not just the name of the subform itself. I have been mucking around with the parent property with no luck so in the code below I am trying to get around the error by actually typing in the name of the subform but even that is giving me the same error. ------------------------------ Code is: 'Call SecureForm function which locks controls, depending on which user group is logged in. 'strformname = Me.Name 'this works for main forms but not subforms strformname = "Forms!FrmPersonDetails!FrmSubformPeopleatWorkplace" Call SecureForm(strformname) ---------------------------------------- Kath ______________________________________ Kath Pelletti Software Design and Solutions Pty Ltd Ph: 9505-6714 Fax: 9505-6430 kp at sdsonline.net -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From miscellany at mvps.org Mon Feb 18 18:01:32 2008 From: miscellany at mvps.org (Steve Schapel) Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2008 13:01:32 +1300 Subject: [AccessD] Upper Case Input Mask In-Reply-To: <29f585dd0802180556u25d7c53bo1297aae0e4192fd0@mail.gmail.com> References: <29f585dd0802180556u25d7c53bo1297aae0e4192fd0@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <47BA1C5C.8080300@mvps.org> Arthur, I think this is a Formatting character, i.e. it causes the data to *display* as upper case, but does not actually modify the data itself. I agree with Darren, that using the UCase() function, or the StrConv() function which for some reason I tend to prefer, on After Update is the way to go. Regards Steve Arthur Fuller wrote: > To force upper case in a given field, Is it enough just to put ">" at the > beginning of the mask, or do you have to supply a marker for each place in > the string? > > TIA, > Arthur From miscellany at mvps.org Mon Feb 18 18:11:55 2008 From: miscellany at mvps.org (Steve Schapel) Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2008 13:11:55 +1300 Subject: [AccessD] help - syntax for subform In-Reply-To: <000e01c87285$97483dd0$6401a8c0@DELLAPTOP> References: <000e01c87285$97483dd0$6401a8c0@DELLAPTOP> Message-ID: <47BA1ECB.3020803@mvps.org> Kath, It sorta depends a lot on what the SecureForms() function does. If this function is working with a Form object, then I think it won't recognise a subform as a form object no matter what you do to try and fiddle around with the name. Locking/disabling controls on the subform, which is being contained within the subform control on the main form, and not open in its own right, will need to be handled differently by your code. This may mean a modification/extension to the SecureForm() function, or the writing of a separate SecureSubform() function. Regards Steve Kath Pelletti wrote: > Can anyone help with syntax needed here..... > > I have been working on a routine called SecureForm() which locks/disable controls for any form which is passed to it. > > The routine is called on each form's 'On Load' event and works fine for main forms by passing the 'me.name' string. > > I now need to add code to the OnLoad of the subforms as well .....so I need to pass it the FULL name of the subform (including the full reference to the parent name), not just the name of the subform itself. > > I have been mucking around with the parent property with no luck so in the code below I am trying to get around the error by actually typing in the name of the subform but even that is giving me the same error. > > > ------------------------------ > Code is: > > 'Call SecureForm function which locks controls, depending on which user group is logged in. > 'strformname = Me.Name 'this works for main forms but not subforms > strformname = "Forms!FrmPersonDetails!FrmSubformPeopleatWorkplace" > > Call SecureForm(strformname) > ---------------------------------------- > > Kath > > ______________________________________ > Kath Pelletti > Software Design and Solutions Pty Ltd > Ph: 9505-6714 > Fax: 9505-6430 > kp at sdsonline.net From kp at sdsonline.net Mon Feb 18 18:14:12 2008 From: kp at sdsonline.net (Kath Pelletti) Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2008 11:14:12 +1100 Subject: [AccessD] help - syntax for subform References: <000e01c87285$97483dd0$6401a8c0@DELLAPTOP> <000901c87288$54a223d0$0300a8c0@danwaters> Message-ID: <006001c8728c$5c4bf990$6401a8c0@DELLAPTOP> Thanks Darren/Dan. No luck yet....this code (Dan's version) : strformname = Forms("frmPersonDetails")("FrmSubformPeopleatWorkplace").Form.Name gives me error 'Can't find the field 'FrmSubformPeoplatWorkplace' referred to in your expression: and this code (Darren version) gives me error: strformname = "Forms!FrmPersonDetails.form.FrmSubformPeopleatWorkplace" "Can't find the form 'Forms!frmpersondetails.form.frmSubformPeopleatWorkplace' referred to in your experssion. aaarrgghh....yes, I want to make the code more generic but once I get a version which works I will convert it....... Kath ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dan Waters" To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'" Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2008 10:45 AM Subject: Re: [AccessD] help - syntax for subform > Try this: > > strFormName = Forms("frmPersonDetails")("subPeopleAtWork").Form.Name > > In this example 'frmPersonDetails' is the main form. > > And subPeopleAtWork is the subform control (not the form). > > And .Form is the form within the subform control. > > And .Name is the name of the form in the subform control. > > HTH! > Dan > > -----Original Message----- > From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Kath Pelletti > Sent: Monday, February 18, 2008 5:26 PM > To: Access D Normal List > Subject: [AccessD] help - syntax for subform > > Can anyone help with syntax needed here..... > > I have been working on a routine called SecureForm() which locks/disable > controls for any form which is passed to it. > > The routine is called on each form's 'On Load' event and works fine for > main > forms by passing the 'me.name' string. > > I now need to add code to the OnLoad of the subforms as well .....so I > need > to pass it the FULL name of the subform (including the full reference to > the > parent name), not just the name of the subform itself. > > I have been mucking around with the parent property with no luck so in the > code below I am trying to get around the error by actually typing in the > name of the subform but even that is giving me the same error. > > > ------------------------------ > Code is: > > 'Call SecureForm function which locks controls, depending on which user > group is logged in. > 'strformname = Me.Name 'this works for main forms but not > subforms > strformname = "Forms!FrmPersonDetails!FrmSubformPeopleatWorkplace" > > Call SecureForm(strformname) > ---------------------------------------- > > Kath > > ______________________________________ > Kath Pelletti > Software Design and Solutions Pty Ltd > Ph: 9505-6714 > Fax: 9505-6430 > kp at sdsonline.net > -- > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > -- > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > From kp at sdsonline.net Mon Feb 18 18:19:29 2008 From: kp at sdsonline.net (Kath Pelletti) Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2008 11:19:29 +1100 Subject: [AccessD] help - syntax for subform References: <000e01c87285$97483dd0$6401a8c0@DELLAPTOP> <47BA1ECB.3020803@mvps.org> Message-ID: <007001c8728d$183f3590$6401a8c0@DELLAPTOP> Oh....OK. The SecureForm() routine does work with the form object as it a) sets form properties (AllowAdditions / AllowDeletions to false) and then b) cycles thru the controls setting them to disabled/locked etc... How would the SecureSubForm routine need to work if not with the form object? Here is a bit of that SecureForm() code: --------------------------------------- Set frmIn = Forms(strformname) Forms(strformname).Form.AllowDeletions = False Forms(strformname).Form.AllowAdditions = False For Each ctl In frmIn.Controls Select Case ctl.Tag Case "NoLock" 'If ctl.Tag = "NoLock" Then 'If the control has a tag which reads 'NoLock' then it should be visible and enabled (eg. the Close button every form will have this tag). Select Case ctl.ControlType Case acImage ctl.Visible = True ctl.OnClick = "[Event Procedure]" Case acTextBox ctl.Visible = True ctl.Enabled = True ctl.Locked = False Case acComboBox 'ctl.Visible = True ctl.Enabled = True ctl.Locked = False Case acCommandButton ctl.Visible = True ctl.Enabled = True 'ctl.Locked = False Case acCheckBox ctl.Visible = True ctl.Enabled = True ctl.Locked = False End Select 'etc --------------------------------- ----- Original Message ----- From: "Steve Schapel" To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving" Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2008 11:11 AM Subject: Re: [AccessD] help - syntax for subform > Kath, > > It sorta depends a lot on what the SecureForms() function does. If this > function is working with a Form object, then I think it won't recognise > a subform as a form object no matter what you do to try and fiddle > around with the name. Locking/disabling controls on the subform, which > is being contained within the subform control on the main form, and not > open in its own right, will need to be handled differently by your code. > This may mean a modification/extension to the SecureForm() function, > or the writing of a separate SecureSubform() function. > > Regards > Steve > > > Kath Pelletti wrote: >> Can anyone help with syntax needed here..... >> >> I have been working on a routine called SecureForm() which locks/disable >> controls for any form which is passed to it. >> >> The routine is called on each form's 'On Load' event and works fine for >> main forms by passing the 'me.name' string. >> >> I now need to add code to the OnLoad of the subforms as well .....so I >> need to pass it the FULL name of the subform (including the full >> reference to the parent name), not just the name of the subform itself. >> >> I have been mucking around with the parent property with no luck so in >> the code below I am trying to get around the error by actually typing in >> the name of the subform but even that is giving me the same error. >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> Code is: >> >> 'Call SecureForm function which locks controls, depending on which >> user group is logged in. >> 'strformname = Me.Name 'this works for main forms but not >> subforms >> strformname = "Forms!FrmPersonDetails!FrmSubformPeopleatWorkplace" >> >> Call SecureForm(strformname) >> ---------------------------------------- >> >> Kath >> >> ______________________________________ >> Kath Pelletti >> Software Design and Solutions Pty Ltd >> Ph: 9505-6714 >> Fax: 9505-6430 >> kp at sdsonline.net > -- > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > From Donald.A.McGillivray at sprint.com Mon Feb 18 18:38:06 2008 From: Donald.A.McGillivray at sprint.com (McGillivray, Don [IT]) Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2008 18:38:06 -0600 Subject: [AccessD] help - syntax for subform In-Reply-To: <000e01c87285$97483dd0$6401a8c0@DELLAPTOP> References: <000e01c87285$97483dd0$6401a8c0@DELLAPTOP> Message-ID: <310215F6BEEEA84A8D6366F219C76331376F40848A@PDAWM07C.ad.sprint.com> Hi Kath, I don't know how you would refer to the subform within a main form without the name of the subform as it appears in the main form. (Try saying that three times really fast . . .) I made a quick bit of code that accepts the main form's name along with the subform's name as an optional argument. The code was able to enumerate the controls on the subform. The values were fed to the proc by the OnLoad event of the subform as the main form opened. I used Me.Parent.Name to supply the main form's name, and a hard-coded value for the main form's subform control name. (Dunno how else you'd deliver the name of the main form's subform control unless it was the same as the subform itself, in which case you could use Me.Name, I guess.) The proc used the following syntax to access the subform's controls" Forms(MainFormName).Controls(SubformName).Form.Controls Hope this helps Don -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Kath Pelletti Sent: Monday, February 18, 2008 3:26 PM To: Access D Normal List Subject: [AccessD] help - syntax for subform Can anyone help with syntax needed here..... I have been working on a routine called SecureForm() which locks/disable controls for any form which is passed to it. The routine is called on each form's 'On Load' event and works fine for main forms by passing the 'me.name' string. I now need to add code to the OnLoad of the subforms as well .....so I need to pass it the FULL name of the subform (including the full reference to the parent name), not just the name of the subform itself. I have been mucking around with the parent property with no luck so in the code below I am trying to get around the error by actually typing in the name of the subform but even that is giving me the same error. ------------------------------ Code is: 'Call SecureForm function which locks controls, depending on which user group is logged in. 'strformname = Me.Name 'this works for main forms but not subforms strformname = "Forms!FrmPersonDetails!FrmSubformPeopleatWorkplace" Call SecureForm(strformname) ---------------------------------------- Kath ______________________________________ Kath Pelletti Software Design and Solutions Pty Ltd Ph: 9505-6714 Fax: 9505-6430 kp at sdsonline.net -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From dwaters at usinternet.com Mon Feb 18 18:38:29 2008 From: dwaters at usinternet.com (Dan Waters) Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2008 18:38:29 -0600 Subject: [AccessD] help - syntax for subform In-Reply-To: <006001c8728c$5c4bf990$6401a8c0@DELLAPTOP> References: <000e01c87285$97483dd0$6401a8c0@DELLAPTOP><000901c87288$54a223d0$0300a8c0@danwaters> <006001c8728c$5c4bf990$6401a8c0@DELLAPTOP> Message-ID: <000d01c8728f$bf9bfce0$0300a8c0@danwaters> Try this syntax instead: Forms("frmPersonDetails").FrmSubformPeopleatWorkplace.Form.Name But I think it's the same. Also, 'Set frmIn = Forms(strformname)' will NOT work for a subform that is loaded in a subform control in an open main form. Try something like this: -------------------------------------- Dim frm as form frm = Forms("frmPersonDetails").FrmSubformPeopleatWorkplace.Form Call SecureForm(frm) --------------------------------------- Public Sub SecureForm(frmSecure as Form) frmSecure.AllowDeletions = False frmSecure.AllowAdditions = False For Each ctl in frmSecure.Controls ---------------------------------------- What the above is doing is passing a reference to the form in the subform control, not the name of the form, to your SecureForm procedure. Hope THIS Helps! Dan -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Kath Pelletti Sent: Monday, February 18, 2008 6:14 PM To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving Subject: Re: [AccessD] help - syntax for subform Thanks Darren/Dan. No luck yet....this code (Dan's version) : strformname = Forms("frmPersonDetails")("FrmSubformPeopleatWorkplace").Form.Name gives me error 'Can't find the field 'FrmSubformPeoplatWorkplace' referred to in your expression: and this code (Darren version) gives me error: strformname = "Forms!FrmPersonDetails.form.FrmSubformPeopleatWorkplace" "Can't find the form 'Forms!frmpersondetails.form.frmSubformPeopleatWorkplace' referred to in your experssion. aaarrgghh....yes, I want to make the code more generic but once I get a version which works I will convert it....... Kath ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dan Waters" To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'" Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2008 10:45 AM Subject: Re: [AccessD] help - syntax for subform > Try this: > > strFormName = Forms("frmPersonDetails")("subPeopleAtWork").Form.Name > > In this example 'frmPersonDetails' is the main form. > > And subPeopleAtWork is the subform control (not the form). > > And .Form is the form within the subform control. > > And .Name is the name of the form in the subform control. > > HTH! > Dan > > -----Original Message----- > From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Kath Pelletti > Sent: Monday, February 18, 2008 5:26 PM > To: Access D Normal List > Subject: [AccessD] help - syntax for subform > > Can anyone help with syntax needed here..... > > I have been working on a routine called SecureForm() which locks/disable > controls for any form which is passed to it. > > The routine is called on each form's 'On Load' event and works fine for > main > forms by passing the 'me.name' string. > > I now need to add code to the OnLoad of the subforms as well .....so I > need > to pass it the FULL name of the subform (including the full reference to > the > parent name), not just the name of the subform itself. > > I have been mucking around with the parent property with no luck so in the > code below I am trying to get around the error by actually typing in the > name of the subform but even that is giving me the same error. > > > ------------------------------ > Code is: > > 'Call SecureForm function which locks controls, depending on which user > group is logged in. > 'strformname = Me.Name 'this works for main forms but not > subforms > strformname = "Forms!FrmPersonDetails!FrmSubformPeopleatWorkplace" > > Call SecureForm(strformname) > ---------------------------------------- > > Kath > > ______________________________________ > Kath Pelletti > Software Design and Solutions Pty Ltd > Ph: 9505-6714 > Fax: 9505-6430 > kp at sdsonline.net > -- > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > -- > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From fuller.artful at gmail.com Mon Feb 18 18:47:50 2008 From: fuller.artful at gmail.com (Arthur Fuller) Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2008 19:47:50 -0500 Subject: [AccessD] Upper Case Input Mask In-Reply-To: <47BA1C5C.8080300@mvps.org> References: <29f585dd0802180556u25d7c53bo1297aae0e4192fd0@mail.gmail.com> <47BA1C5C.8080300@mvps.org> Message-ID: <29f585dd0802181647g249d2c4eid08a4fa35e84b647@mail.gmail.com> Thanks to both. I'll go that way then. On Mon, Feb 18, 2008 at 7:01 PM, Steve Schapel wrote: > Arthur, > > I think this is a Formatting character, i.e. it causes the data to > *display* as upper case, but does not actually modify the data itself. > I agree with Darren, that using the UCase() function, or the StrConv() > function which for some reason I tend to prefer, on After Update is the > way to go. > > Regards > Steve > > > Arthur Fuller wrote: > > To force upper case in a given field, Is it enough just to put ">" at > the > > beginning of the mask, or do you have to supply a marker for each place > in > > the string? > > > > TIA, > > Arthur > -- > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com Mon Feb 18 19:33:43 2008 From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (jwcolby) Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2008 20:33:43 -0500 Subject: [AccessD] help - syntax for subform In-Reply-To: <47BA1ECB.3020803@mvps.org> References: <000e01c87285$97483dd0$6401a8c0@DELLAPTOP> <47BA1ECB.3020803@mvps.org> Message-ID: <017d01c87297$76eb0100$0401a8c0@M90> subform.form is the reference to the form object in a subform control John W. Colby Colby Consulting www.ColbyConsulting.com -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Steve Schapel Sent: Monday, February 18, 2008 7:12 PM To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving Subject: Re: [AccessD] help - syntax for subform Kath, It sorta depends a lot on what the SecureForms() function does. If this function is working with a Form object, then I think it won't recognise a subform as a form object no matter what you do to try and fiddle around with the name. Locking/disabling controls on the subform, which is being contained within the subform control on the main form, and not open in its own right, will need to be handled differently by your code. This may mean a modification/extension to the SecureForm() function, or the writing of a separate SecureSubform() function. Regards Steve Kath Pelletti wrote: > Can anyone help with syntax needed here..... > > I have been working on a routine called SecureForm() which locks/disable controls for any form which is passed to it. > > The routine is called on each form's 'On Load' event and works fine for main forms by passing the 'me.name' string. > > I now need to add code to the OnLoad of the subforms as well .....so I need to pass it the FULL name of the subform (including the full reference to the parent name), not just the name of the subform itself. > > I have been mucking around with the parent property with no luck so in the code below I am trying to get around the error by actually typing in the name of the subform but even that is giving me the same error. > > > ------------------------------ > Code is: > > 'Call SecureForm function which locks controls, depending on which user group is logged in. > 'strformname = Me.Name 'this works for main forms but not subforms > strformname = "Forms!FrmPersonDetails!FrmSubformPeopleatWorkplace" > > Call SecureForm(strformname) > ---------------------------------------- > > Kath > > ______________________________________ > Kath Pelletti > Software Design and Solutions Pty Ltd > Ph: 9505-6714 > Fax: 9505-6430 > kp at sdsonline.net -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From Darryl.Collins at coles.com.au Mon Feb 18 19:44:52 2008 From: Darryl.Collins at coles.com.au (Darryl Collins) Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2008 12:44:52 +1100 Subject: [AccessD] Access 101 question Message-ID: <49DFE57FB126044B8A8B934E7AEA09ED09FD6F53@WPEXCH05.colesmyer.ad.cmltd.net.au> Hey there, I am sure this is dead easy, but am having brain freeze today. What is the equivalent in Access of Excel's "Workbook_Open" command? "Workbook_Open" will automatically run as the workbook opens and I want the same sort of thing for Access. There are a few things I need to check as Access Opens but I am not sure on the syntax of this. Cheers Darryl This email and any attachments may contain privileged and confidential information and are intended for the named addressee only. If you have received this e-mail in error, please notify the sender and delete this e-mail immediately. Any confidentiality, privilege or copyright is not waived or lost because this e-mail has been sent to you in error. It is your responsibility to check this e-mail and any attachments for viruses. No warranty is made that this material is free from computer virus or any other defect or error. Any loss/damage incurred by using this material is not the sender's responsibility. The sender's entire liability will be limited to resupplying the material. From kp at sdsonline.net Mon Feb 18 19:53:42 2008 From: kp at sdsonline.net (Kath Pelletti) Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2008 12:53:42 +1100 Subject: [AccessD] Access 101 question References: <49DFE57FB126044B8A8B934E7AEA09ED09FD6F53@WPEXCH05.colesmyer.ad.cmltd.net.au> Message-ID: <009401c8729a$41e70b90$6401a8c0@DELLAPTOP> Darryl - you can use the Autoexec macro.... If you save a macro and call it Autoexec it will run on startup of the mdb. Or another way is to nominate a startup form (under Tools, Startup) and have code run from the form load event.... hth Kath ----- Original Message ----- From: "Darryl Collins" To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving" Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2008 12:44 PM Subject: [AccessD] Access 101 question > Hey there, > > I am sure this is dead easy, but am having brain freeze today. What is > the equivalent in Access of Excel's "Workbook_Open" command? > "Workbook_Open" will automatically run as the workbook opens and I want > the same sort of thing for Access. There are a few things I need to check > as Access Opens but I am not sure on the syntax of this. > > Cheers > Darryl > > This email and any attachments may contain privileged and confidential > information and are intended for the named addressee only. If you have > received this e-mail in error, please notify the sender and delete this > e-mail immediately. Any confidentiality, privilege or copyright is not > waived or lost because this e-mail has been sent to you in error. It is > your responsibility to check this e-mail and any attachments for viruses. > No warranty is made that this material is free from computer virus or any > other defect or error. Any loss/damage incurred by using this material is > not the sender's responsibility. The sender's entire liability will be > limited to resupplying the material. > > -- > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > From Donald.A.McGillivray at sprint.com Mon Feb 18 19:55:22 2008 From: Donald.A.McGillivray at sprint.com (McGillivray, Don [IT]) Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2008 19:55:22 -0600 Subject: [AccessD] Access 101 question In-Reply-To: <49DFE57FB126044B8A8B934E7AEA09ED09FD6F53@WPEXCH05.colesmyer.ad.cmltd.net.au> References: <49DFE57FB126044B8A8B934E7AEA09ED09FD6F53@WPEXCH05.colesmyer.ad.cmltd.net.au> Message-ID: <310215F6BEEEA84A8D6366F219C76331376F4084F5@PDAWM07C.ad.sprint.com> Darryl, There are a couple of ways to do this. One is to use an AutoExec macro. If your DB has a macro named AutoExec, it will run it automatically when the db opens. I usually set the macro to RunCode() and point it to some startup routine. You can also specify a form to load on startup, and place code in that form's OnLoad or OnOpen events, or you can use the /x command line switch when you start Access to specify the name of a macro to run on start up. Hope this helps . . . Don -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Darryl Collins Sent: Monday, February 18, 2008 5:45 PM To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving Subject: [AccessD] Access 101 question Hey there, I am sure this is dead easy, but am having brain freeze today. What is the equivalent in Access of Excel's "Workbook_Open" command? "Workbook_Open" will automatically run as the workbook opens and I want the same sort of thing for Access. There are a few things I need to check as Access Opens but I am not sure on the syntax of this. Cheers Darryl This email and any attachments may contain privileged and confidential information and are intended for the named addressee only. If you have received this e-mail in error, please notify the sender and delete this e-mail immediately. Any confidentiality, privilege or copyright is not waived or lost because this e-mail has been sent to you in error. It is your responsibility to check this e-mail and any attachments for viruses. No warranty is made that this material is free from computer virus or any other defect or error. Any loss/damage incurred by using this material is not the sender's responsibility. The sender's entire liability will be limited to resupplying the material. -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From ssharkins at gmail.com Mon Feb 18 19:56:56 2008 From: ssharkins at gmail.com (Susan Harkins) Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2008 20:56:56 -0500 Subject: [AccessD] Access 101 question References: <49DFE57FB126044B8A8B934E7AEA09ED09FD6F53@WPEXCH05.colesmyer.ad.cmltd.net.au> Message-ID: <002601c8729a$b6d93f40$4b3a8343@SusanOne> Use an auto_exec macro to run code. Or, take a look at the startup options -- on the Tools menu I think. However, these methods can be usurped. Susan H. > > Hey there, > > I am sure this is dead easy, but am having brain freeze today. What is > the equivalent in Access of Excel's "Workbook_Open" command? > "Workbook_Open" will automatically run as the workbook opens and I want > the same sort of thing for Access. There are a few things I need to check > as Access Opens but I am not sure on the syntax of this. > > Cheers > Darryl > > This email and any attachments may contain privileged and confidential > information and are intended for the named addressee only. If you have > received this e-mail in error, please notify the sender and delete this > e-mail immediately. Any confidentiality, privilege or copyright is not > waived or lost because this e-mail has been sent to you in error. It is > your responsibility to check this e-mail and any attachments for viruses. > No warranty is made that this material is free from computer virus or any > other defect or error. Any loss/damage incurred by using this material is > not the sender's responsibility. The sender's entire liability will be > limited to resupplying the material. > > -- > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From kp at sdsonline.net Mon Feb 18 20:38:30 2008 From: kp at sdsonline.net (Kath Pelletti) Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2008 13:38:30 +1100 Subject: [AccessD] help - syntax for subform References: <000e01c87285$97483dd0$6401a8c0@DELLAPTOP> <310215F6BEEEA84A8D6366F219C76331376F40848A@PDAWM07C.ad.sprint.com> Message-ID: <00b201c872a0$84134b90$6401a8c0@DELLAPTOP> Don - can you send me a sample of what you got working? I can't get it to work.... Kath ----- Original Message ----- From: "McGillivray, Don [IT]" To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving" Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2008 11:38 AM Subject: Re: [AccessD] help - syntax for subform > Hi Kath, > > I don't know how you would refer to the subform within a main form without > the name of the subform as it appears in the main form. (Try saying that > three times really fast . . .) I made a quick bit of code that accepts > the main form's name along with the subform's name as an optional > argument. The code was able to enumerate the controls on the subform. > The values were fed to the proc by the OnLoad event of the subform as the > main form opened. I used Me.Parent.Name to supply the main form's name, > and a hard-coded value for the main form's subform control name. (Dunno > how else you'd deliver the name of the main form's subform control unless > it was the same as the subform itself, in which case you could use > Me.Name, I guess.) The proc used the following syntax to access the > subform's controls" > > Forms(MainFormName).Controls(SubformName).Form.Controls > > Hope this helps > > Don > > -----Original Message----- > From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Kath Pelletti > Sent: Monday, February 18, 2008 3:26 PM > To: Access D Normal List > Subject: [AccessD] help - syntax for subform > > Can anyone help with syntax needed here..... > > I have been working on a routine called SecureForm() which locks/disable > controls for any form which is passed to it. > > The routine is called on each form's 'On Load' event and works fine for > main forms by passing the 'me.name' string. > > I now need to add code to the OnLoad of the subforms as well .....so I > need to pass it the FULL name of the subform (including the full reference > to the parent name), not just the name of the subform itself. > > I have been mucking around with the parent property with no luck so in the > code below I am trying to get around the error by actually typing in the > name of the subform but even that is giving me the same error. > > > ------------------------------ > Code is: > > 'Call SecureForm function which locks controls, depending on which user > group is logged in. > 'strformname = Me.Name 'this works for main forms but not > subforms > strformname = "Forms!FrmPersonDetails!FrmSubformPeopleatWorkplace" > > Call SecureForm(strformname) > ---------------------------------------- > > Kath > > ______________________________________ > Kath Pelletti > Software Design and Solutions Pty Ltd > Ph: 9505-6714 > Fax: 9505-6430 > kp at sdsonline.net > -- > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > > > -- > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > From Donald.A.McGillivray at sprint.com Mon Feb 18 22:39:02 2008 From: Donald.A.McGillivray at sprint.com (McGillivray, Don [IT]) Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2008 22:39:02 -0600 Subject: [AccessD] help - syntax for subform In-Reply-To: <00b201c872a0$84134b90$6401a8c0@DELLAPTOP> References: <000e01c87285$97483dd0$6401a8c0@DELLAPTOP> <310215F6BEEEA84A8D6366F219C76331376F40848A@PDAWM07C.ad.sprint.com> <00b201c872a0$84134b90$6401a8c0@DELLAPTOP> Message-ID: <310215F6BEEEA84A8D6366F219C76331376F40854C@PDAWM07C.ad.sprint.com> Kath, Sent a sample db off-list. Don -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Kath Pelletti Sent: Monday, February 18, 2008 6:38 PM To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving Subject: Re: [AccessD] help - syntax for subform Don - can you send me a sample of what you got working? I can't get it to work.... Kath ----- Original Message ----- From: "McGillivray, Don [IT]" To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving" Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2008 11:38 AM Subject: Re: [AccessD] help - syntax for subform > Hi Kath, > > I don't know how you would refer to the subform within a main form without > the name of the subform as it appears in the main form. (Try saying that > three times really fast . . .) I made a quick bit of code that accepts > the main form's name along with the subform's name as an optional > argument. The code was able to enumerate the controls on the subform. > The values were fed to the proc by the OnLoad event of the subform as the > main form opened. I used Me.Parent.Name to supply the main form's name, > and a hard-coded value for the main form's subform control name. (Dunno > how else you'd deliver the name of the main form's subform control unless > it was the same as the subform itself, in which case you could use > Me.Name, I guess.) The proc used the following syntax to access the > subform's controls" > > Forms(MainFormName).Controls(SubformName).Form.Controls > > Hope this helps > > Don > > -----Original Message----- > From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Kath Pelletti > Sent: Monday, February 18, 2008 3:26 PM > To: Access D Normal List > Subject: [AccessD] help - syntax for subform > > Can anyone help with syntax needed here..... > > I have been working on a routine called SecureForm() which locks/disable > controls for any form which is passed to it. > > The routine is called on each form's 'On Load' event and works fine for > main forms by passing the 'me.name' string. > > I now need to add code to the OnLoad of the subforms as well .....so I > need to pass it the FULL name of the subform (including the full reference > to the parent name), not just the name of the subform itself. > > I have been mucking around with the parent property with no luck so in the > code below I am trying to get around the error by actually typing in the > name of the subform but even that is giving me the same error. > > > ------------------------------ > Code is: > > 'Call SecureForm function which locks controls, depending on which user > group is logged in. > 'strformname = Me.Name 'this works for main forms but not > subforms > strformname = "Forms!FrmPersonDetails!FrmSubformPeopleatWorkplace" > > Call SecureForm(strformname) > ---------------------------------------- > > Kath > > ______________________________________ > Kath Pelletti > Software Design and Solutions Pty Ltd > Ph: 9505-6714 > Fax: 9505-6430 > kp at sdsonline.net > -- > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > > > -- > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From rosalyn.clarke at barclays.com Tue Feb 19 09:55:47 2008 From: rosalyn.clarke at barclays.com (rosalyn.clarke at barclays.com) Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2008 15:55:47 -0000 Subject: [AccessD] OT: test Message-ID: <0F978DF74B416B44A351B9143EB0FD330236CD32@MUKPBCC1XMB0103.collab.barclayscorp.com> Checking whether barclays mail servers will allow AccessD emails or not... 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Barclays Bank PLC.Registered in England and Wales (registered no. 1026167). Registered Office: 1 Churchill Place, London, E14 5HP, United Kingdom. Barclays Bank PLC is authorised and regulated by the Financial Services Authority. From garykjos at gmail.com Tue Feb 19 10:23:53 2008 From: garykjos at gmail.com (Gary Kjos) Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2008 10:23:53 -0600 Subject: [AccessD] OT: test In-Reply-To: <0F978DF74B416B44A351B9143EB0FD330236CD32@MUKPBCC1XMB0103.collab.barclayscorp.com> References: <0F978DF74B416B44A351B9143EB0FD330236CD32@MUKPBCC1XMB0103.collab.barclayscorp.com> Message-ID: Hi Roz! GK On 2/19/08, rosalyn.clarke at barclays.com wrote: > Checking whether barclays mail servers will allow AccessD emails or not... > > > This e-mail and any attachments are confidential and intended solely for the addressee and may also be privileged or exempt from disclosure under applicable law. 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Replies to this e-mail may be monitored by the Barclays Group for operational or business reasons. > > Any opinion or other information in this e-mail or its attachments that does not relate to the business of the Barclays Group is personal to the sender and is not given or endorsed by the Barclays Group. > > Barclays Bank PLC.Registered in England and Wales (registered no. 1026167). > Registered Office: 1 Churchill Place, London, E14 5HP, United Kingdom. > > Barclays Bank PLC is authorised and regulated by the Financial Services Authority. > -- > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > -- Gary Kjos garykjos at gmail.com From wdhindman at dejpolsystems.com Tue Feb 19 10:45:15 2008 From: wdhindman at dejpolsystems.com (William Hindman) Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2008 11:45:15 -0500 Subject: [AccessD] OT: test References: <0F978DF74B416B44A351B9143EB0FD330236CD32@MUKPBCC1XMB0103.collab.barclayscorp.com> Message-ID: <002d01c87316$ce17f350$d67e6c4c@jisshowsbs.local> ...nope! :) William ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2008 10:55 AM Subject: [AccessD] OT: test > Checking whether barclays mail servers will allow AccessD emails or not... > > > This e-mail and any attachments are confidential and intended solely for > the addressee and may also be privileged or exempt from disclosure under > applicable law. If you are not the addressee, or have received this e-mail > in error, please notify the sender immediately, delete it from your system > and do not copy, disclose or otherwise act upon any part of this e-mail or > its attachments. > > Internet communications are not guaranteed to be secure or virus-free. > The Barclays Group does not accept responsibility for any loss arising > from unauthorised access to, or interference with, any Internet > communications by any third party, or from the transmission of any > viruses. Replies to this e-mail may be monitored by the Barclays Group for > operational or business reasons. > > Any opinion or other information in this e-mail or its attachments that > does not relate to the business of the Barclays Group is personal to the > sender and is not given or endorsed by the Barclays Group. > > Barclays Bank PLC.Registered in England and Wales (registered no. > 1026167). > Registered Office: 1 Churchill Place, London, E14 5HP, United Kingdom. > > Barclays Bank PLC is authorised and regulated by the Financial Services > Authority. > -- > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > From jwelz at hotmail.com Tue Feb 19 12:40:26 2008 From: jwelz at hotmail.com (Jurgen Welz) Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2008 11:40:26 -0700 Subject: [AccessD] Vista SP1 In-Reply-To: <006901c87252$e0a91040$a1fb30c0$@rr.com> References: <001d01c8723a$630c01a0$0301a8c0@HAL9005> <015d01c8723e$91c58940$0401a8c0@M90> <006901c87252$e0a91040$a1fb30c0$@rr.com> Message-ID: Hmm. 4 days ago my Vista Acer 9300 play machine choked on some update and now it won't boot. Says it doing something with update 3 of 3, 0% done, don't power down, and then reboots to the same point in an infinite loop. Can't find a system restore point either. I had to pull the drive to put it in an enclosure so I could get my data off. I'll see if the restore partition is OK next weekend. In the mean time I bought a 24" iMac for music, photo and video editing that I do. The Apple help is as bad or worse than Microsoft help and so far, I'm not impressed with ease of use or intuitiveness. For example, a free trial Mail online account comes with SMTP configured so that it couldn't work with my ISP and all help suggestions were ludicrous and irrelevant. A workable solution was found at an online forum. Similarly, I have unresolved problems getting things like Frostwire file sharing to work, though I've had it working with every Windows OS since '98. The funny thing is, online forum help provides numerous suggestions that you get a Mac and avoid the PC firewall and port problems that I appear to be experiencing with the iMac and never had with PC. My primary work machine is a Dell XPS with XP Pro as the Cisco VPN software still doesn't support Vista. I keep a spare fully configured XP Pro drive as a backup drive on hand should I have any problems. I can also get access to an identical machine within a couple days to drop the spare drive into should anything happen to this laptop. I sourced several of the Dell XPS machines, which only come with Vista, for co-workers, removed their drives, installed new drives and set up XP-Pro and these people keep the Vista boot drive as a back up drive in a protable drive enclosure as well. We all backup our data to the externals so that a disaster like a failed update in my Vista machine doesn't bring us down. Dell still sells XP machines, but none have the bang for buck we've gotten with the XPS line that only comes with Vista. Now that I've gotten an extra 2 1/2" drive enclosure for my Acer drive, I'll pick up another 200 gigabyte 7200 rpm drive and doing the same thing with it as I've done with my work machines. I'm not sure that is was the Vista SP1 udpate that killed my machine, but the 4 days ago timing is an exact fit.CiaoJ?rgen WelzEdmonton, Albertajwelz at hotmail.com> From: bheid at sc.rr.com> To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com> Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2008 12:22:45 -0500> Subject: Re: [AccessD] Vista SP1> > I have installed it on my Vista Business machine and have had no issues so> far (about 4 days now). File copies do seem much faster now.> > Bobby> > -----Original Message-----> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of jwcolby> Sent: Monday, February 18, 2008 9:57 AM> To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'> Subject: Re: [AccessD] Vista SP1> > I don't use it either yet.> > I am about to bring up virtual server and run it as a virtual machine.> > John W. Colby> Colby Consulting> www.ColbyConsulting.com > -----Original Message-----> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Rocky Smolin at> Beach Access Software> Sent: Monday, February 18, 2008 9:27 AM> To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'> Subject: [AccessD] Vista SP1> > > I was notified this morning by the Microsoft Partner Program that there is> an SP1 for Vista.> > http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/windowsvista/bb738089.aspx> > I don't use Vista yet. > > > Rocky> > > > -- > AccessD mailing list> AccessD at databaseadvisors.com> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com _________________________________________________________________ From andy at minstersystems.co.uk Tue Feb 19 12:58:26 2008 From: andy at minstersystems.co.uk (Andy Lacey) Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2008 18:58:26 -0000 Subject: [AccessD] OT: test In-Reply-To: <002d01c87316$ce17f350$d67e6c4c@jisshowsbs.local> Message-ID: <009001c87329$69e11070$0f4cd355@minster33c3r25> You got the Barclays work then Roz. Congratulations. And congratulations to their very astute interviewer(s). -- Andy Lacey http://www.minstersystems.co.uk >-----Original Message----- >From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com >[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of >William Hindman >Sent: 19 February 2008 16:45 >To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving >Subject: Re: [AccessD] OT: test > > >...nope! :) > >William > >----- Original Message ----- >From: >To: >Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2008 10:55 AM >Subject: [AccessD] OT: test > > >> Checking whether barclays mail servers will allow AccessD emails or >> not... >> >> >> This e-mail and any attachments are confidential and intended solely >> for >> the addressee and may also be privileged or exempt from >disclosure under >> applicable law. If you are not the addressee, or have >received this e-mail >> in error, please notify the sender immediately, delete it >from your system >> and do not copy, disclose or otherwise act upon any part of >this e-mail or >> its attachments. >> >> Internet communications are not guaranteed to be secure or >virus-free. >> The Barclays Group does not accept responsibility for any >loss arising >> from unauthorised access to, or interference with, any Internet >> communications by any third party, or from the transmission of any >> viruses. Replies to this e-mail may be monitored by the >Barclays Group >> for operational or business reasons. >> >> Any opinion or other information in this e-mail or its attachments >> that >> does not relate to the business of the Barclays Group is >personal to the >> sender and is not given or endorsed by the Barclays Group. >> >> Barclays Bank PLC.Registered in England and Wales (registered no. >> 1026167). >> Registered Office: 1 Churchill Place, London, E14 5HP, >United Kingdom. >> >> Barclays Bank PLC is authorised and regulated by the Financial >> Services >> Authority. >> -- >> AccessD mailing list >> AccessD at databaseadvisors.com >> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd >> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com >> > > > >-- >AccessD mailing list >AccessD at databaseadvisors.com >http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd >Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > From dwaters at usinternet.com Tue Feb 19 14:59:21 2008 From: dwaters at usinternet.com (Dan Waters) Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2008 14:59:21 -0600 Subject: [AccessD] Any Students Out There? Message-ID: <004601c8733a$4ce7dba0$0300a8c0@danwaters> >From USA Today: Microsoft is giving students free access to its most sophisticated tools for writing software and making media-rich websites, a move that intensifies its competition with Adobe Systems and could challenge open source software's popularity. The Redmond-based software maker said late Monday it will let students download Visual Studio Professional Edition, a software development environment; Expression Studio, which includes graphic design and website and hybrid Web-desktop programming tools; and XNA Game Studio 2.0, a video game development program. From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com Tue Feb 19 15:18:58 2008 From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (jwcolby) Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2008 16:18:58 -0500 Subject: [AccessD] Any Students Out There? In-Reply-To: <004601c8733a$4ce7dba0$0300a8c0@danwaters> References: <004601c8733a$4ce7dba0$0300a8c0@danwaters> Message-ID: <01a601c8733d$0abbac90$0401a8c0@M90> yes but can my 6 year old son get one? ;-) John W. Colby Colby Consulting www.ColbyConsulting.com -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Dan Waters Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2008 3:59 PM To: AccessD; DBA-Tech; dba-vb at databaseadvisors.com Subject: [AccessD] Any Students Out There? >From USA Today: Microsoft is giving students free access to its most sophisticated tools for writing software and making media-rich websites, a move that intensifies its competition with Adobe Systems and could challenge open source software's popularity. The Redmond-based software maker said late Monday it will let students download Visual Studio Professional Edition, a software development environment; Expression Studio, which includes graphic design and website and hybrid Web-desktop programming tools; and XNA Game Studio 2.0, a video game development program. -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From Donald.A.McGillivray at sprint.com Tue Feb 19 15:22:57 2008 From: Donald.A.McGillivray at sprint.com (McGillivray, Don [IT]) Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2008 15:22:57 -0600 Subject: [AccessD] Any Students Out There? In-Reply-To: <004601c8733a$4ce7dba0$0300a8c0@danwaters> References: <004601c8733a$4ce7dba0$0300a8c0@danwaters> Message-ID: <310215F6BEEEA84A8D6366F219C76331376F4634C2@PDAWM07C.ad.sprint.com> Um, yeah, I'm always learning new stuff. That makes me a student, doesn't it . . . -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Dan Waters Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2008 12:59 PM To: AccessD; DBA-Tech; dba-vb at databaseadvisors.com Subject: [AccessD] Any Students Out There? >From USA Today: Microsoft is giving students free access to its most sophisticated tools for writing software and making media-rich websites, a move that intensifies its competition with Adobe Systems and could challenge open source software's popularity. The Redmond-based software maker said late Monday it will let students download Visual Studio Professional Edition, a software development environment; Expression Studio, which includes graphic design and website and hybrid Web-desktop programming tools; and XNA Game Studio 2.0, a video game development program. -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From ralphb at cwgsy.net Tue Feb 19 15:52:58 2008 From: ralphb at cwgsy.net (Ralph Bryce) Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2008 21:52:58 +0000 Subject: [AccessD] Vista SP1 In-Reply-To: References: <001d01c8723a$630c01a0$0301a8c0@HAL9005> <015d01c8723e$91c58940$0401a8c0@M90> <006901c87252$e0a91040$a1fb30c0$@rr.com> Message-ID: <200802192152932.SM07032@IBMT43p.cwgsy.net> Jurgen, This Technet forum discusses: http://forums.microsoft.com/TechNet/showpost.aspx?postid=2848906&siteid=17 Many people affected...looks like a system restore... Ralph Bryce At 18:40 19/02/2008, you wrote: >Hmm. 4 days ago my Vista Acer 9300 play machine >choked on some update and now it won't >boot. Says it doing something with update 3 of >3, 0% done, don't power down, and then reboots >to the same point in an infinite loop. Can't >find a system restore point either. I had to >pull the drive to put it in an enclosure so I >could get my data off. I'll see if the restore partition is OK next weekend. : : >I'm not sure that is was the Vista SP1 udpate >that killed my machine, but the 4 days ago timing is an exact fit. >Ciao >J?rgen Welz From Erwin.Craps at ithelps.eu Tue Feb 19 16:05:46 2008 From: Erwin.Craps at ithelps.eu (Erwin Craps - IT Helps) Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2008 23:05:46 +0100 Subject: [AccessD] Vista SP1 References: <001d01c8723a$630c01a0$0301a8c0@HAL9005><015d01c8723e$91c58940$0401a8c0@M90><006901c87252$e0a91040$a1fb30c0$@rr.com> <200802192152932.SM07032@IBMT43p.cwgsy.net> Message-ID: <430E80531228BA4497C5EB1A7BA786B02771C5@stekelbes.ithelps.local> Ahhhh Some times, like this time, I'm glad that the international (major) updates take 1 to 3 month longer to be available than the us English version... Thx for sharing. -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Ralph Bryce Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2008 10:53 PM To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving Subject: Re: [AccessD] Vista SP1 Jurgen, This Technet forum discusses: http://forums.microsoft.com/TechNet/showpost.aspx?postid=2848906&siteid=17 Many people affected...looks like a system restore... Ralph Bryce At 18:40 19/02/2008, you wrote: >Hmm. 4 days ago my Vista Acer 9300 play machine >choked on some update and now it won't >boot. Says it doing something with update 3 of >3, 0% done, don't power down, and then reboots >to the same point in an infinite loop. Can't >find a system restore point either. I had to >pull the drive to put it in an enclosure so I >could get my data off. I'll see if the restore partition is OK next weekend. : : >I'm not sure that is was the Vista SP1 udpate >that killed my machine, but the 4 days ago timing is an exact fit. >Ciao >J?rgen Welz -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From bheid at sc.rr.com Tue Feb 19 16:34:53 2008 From: bheid at sc.rr.com (Bobby Heid) Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2008 17:34:53 -0500 Subject: [AccessD] Vista SP1 In-Reply-To: References: <001d01c8723a$630c01a0$0301a8c0@HAL9005> <015d01c8723e$91c58940$0401a8c0@M90> <006901c87252$e0a91040$a1fb30c0$@rr.com> Message-ID: <008701c87347$a599c710$f0cd5530$@rr.com> Jurgen, The Vista SP1 update is not available yet to the general public and is not expected to be available to windows update until sometime next month. Bobby -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jurgen Welz Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2008 1:40 PM To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving Subject: Re: [AccessD] Vista SP1 Now that I've gotten an extra 2 1/2" drive enclosure for my Acer drive, I'll pick up another 200 gigabyte 7200 rpm drive and doing the same thing with it as I've done with my work machines. I'm not sure that is was the Vista SP1 udpate that killed my machine, but the 4 days ago timing is an exact fit.CiaoJ?rgen WelzEdmonton, Albertajwelz at hotmail.com> From: bheid at sc.rr.com> To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com> Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2008 12:22:45 -0500> Subject: Re: [AccessD] Vista SP1> > I have installed it on my Vista Business machine and have had no issues so> far (about 4 days now). File copies do seem much faster now.> > Bobby> > -----Original Message-----> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of jwcolby> Sent: Monday, February 18, 2008 9:57 AM> To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'> Subject: Re: [AccessD] Vista SP1> > I don't use it either yet.> > I am about to bring up virtual server and run it as a virtual machine.> > John W. Colby> Colby Consulting> www.ColbyConsulting.com > -----Original Message-----> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Rocky Smolin at> Beach Access Software> Sent: Monday, February 18, 2008 9:27 AM> To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'> Subject: [AccessD] Vista SP1> > > I was notified this morning by the Microsoft Partner Program that there is> an SP1 for Vista.> > http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/windowsvista/bb738089.aspx> > I don't use Vista yet. > > > Rocky> > > > -- > AccessD mailing list> AccessD at databaseadvisors.com> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From bheid at sc.rr.com Tue Feb 19 16:40:25 2008 From: bheid at sc.rr.com (Bobby Heid) Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2008 17:40:25 -0500 Subject: [AccessD] Vista SP1 In-Reply-To: <200802192152932.SM07032@IBMT43p.cwgsy.net> References: <001d01c8723a$630c01a0$0301a8c0@HAL9005> <015d01c8723e$91c58940$0401a8c0@M90> <006901c87252$e0a91040$a1fb30c0$@rr.com> <200802192152932.SM07032@IBMT43p.cwgsy.net> Message-ID: <008801c87348$6bca78d0$435f6a70$@rr.com> I only glanced at the first page, but it looks like they are talking about Vista SP1 RC1 (release candidate). And that surely would not be on Windows Update! On another note, I have installed all of the updates recently from Windows Update (after reviewing them, I don't let update install automatically) and have not had any problems. I do not know what may have happened to Jurgen's PC. Bobby -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Ralph Bryce Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2008 4:53 PM To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving Subject: Re: [AccessD] Vista SP1 Jurgen, This Technet forum discusses: http://forums.microsoft.com/TechNet/showpost.aspx?postid=2848906&siteid=17 Many people affected...looks like a system restore... Ralph Bryce From rockysmolin at bchacc.com Tue Feb 19 16:58:17 2008 From: rockysmolin at bchacc.com (Rocky Smolin at Beach Access Software) Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2008 14:58:17 -0800 Subject: [AccessD] Slow Openers Message-ID: <009b01c8734a$eaa7f8b0$0301a8c0@HAL9005> Dear List: Suddenly (well over the past couple days) Access, Excel, and Word are opening slowly - like 30 seconds. This is a P4 3GHz box w/ 2GB Ram. What would be the most common things to look at for a cause of slow openings? MTIA Rocky From zora_db at yahoo.com Tue Feb 19 17:17:14 2008 From: zora_db at yahoo.com (Roz Clarke) Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2008 15:17:14 -0800 (PST) Subject: [AccessD] OT: test Message-ID: <444184.37899.qm@web50101.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Many thanks! And thanks to William and Gary for the pong to my ping... I see you too ;) ----- Original Message ---- From: Andy Lacey To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving Sent: Tuesday, 19 February, 2008 6:58:26 PM Subject: Re: [AccessD] OT: test You got the Barclays work then Roz. Congratulations. And congratulations to their very astute interviewer(s). -- Andy Lacey http://www.minstersystems.co.uk >-----Original Message----- >From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com >[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of >William Hindman >Sent: 19 February 2008 16:45 >To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving >Subject: Re: [AccessD] OT: test > > >...nope! :) > >William > >----- Original Message ----- >From: >To: >Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2008 10:55 AM >Subject: [AccessD] OT: test > > >> Checking whether barclays mail servers will allow AccessD emails or >> not... >> >> >> This e-mail and any attachments are confidential and intended solely >> for >> the addressee and may also be privileged or exempt from >disclosure under >> applicable law. If you are not the addressee, or have >received this e-mail >> in error, please notify the sender immediately, delete it >from your system >> and do not copy, disclose or otherwise act upon any part of >this e-mail or >> its attachments. >> >> Internet communications are not guaranteed to be secure or >virus-free. >> The Barclays Group does not accept responsibility for any >loss arising >> from unauthorised access to, or interference with, any Internet >> communications by any third party, or from the transmission of any >> viruses. Replies to this e-mail may be monitored by the >Barclays Group >> for operational or business reasons. >> >> Any opinion or other information in this e-mail or its attachments >> that >> does not relate to the business of the Barclays Group is >personal to the >> sender and is not given or endorsed by the Barclays Group. >> >> Barclays Bank PLC.Registered in England and Wales (registered no. >> 1026167). >> Registered Office: 1 Churchill Place, London, E14 5HP, >United Kingdom. >> >> Barclays Bank PLC is authorised and regulated by the Financial >> Services >> Authority. >> -- >> AccessD mailing list >> AccessD at databaseadvisors.com >> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd >> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com >> > > > >-- >AccessD mailing list >AccessD at databaseadvisors.com >http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd >Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com __________________________________________________________ Sent from Yahoo! Mail - a smarter inbox http://uk.mail.yahoo.com From dwaters at usinternet.com Tue Feb 19 17:22:14 2008 From: dwaters at usinternet.com (Dan Waters) Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2008 17:22:14 -0600 Subject: [AccessD] Slow Openers In-Reply-To: <009b01c8734a$eaa7f8b0$0301a8c0@HAL9005> References: <009b01c8734a$eaa7f8b0$0301a8c0@HAL9005> Message-ID: <004d01c8734e$42ee0e80$0300a8c0@danwaters> First Thought - try doing an Office Detect and Repair (on Help menu from any of those applications). Dan -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Rocky Smolin at Beach Access Software Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2008 4:58 PM To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' Subject: [AccessD] Slow Openers Dear List: Suddenly (well over the past couple days) Access, Excel, and Word are opening slowly - like 30 seconds. This is a P4 3GHz box w/ 2GB Ram. What would be the most common things to look at for a cause of slow openings? MTIA Rocky -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From ralphb at cwgsy.net Tue Feb 19 17:37:23 2008 From: ralphb at cwgsy.net (Ralph Bryce) Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2008 23:37:23 +0000 Subject: [AccessD] Vista SP1 In-Reply-To: <008801c87348$6bca78d0$435f6a70$@rr.com> References: <001d01c8723a$630c01a0$0301a8c0@HAL9005> <015d01c8723e$91c58940$0401a8c0@M90> <006901c87252$e0a91040$a1fb30c0$@rr.com> <200802192152932.SM07032@IBMT43p.cwgsy.net> <008801c87348$6bca78d0$435f6a70$@rr.com> Message-ID: <200802192337155.SM07032@IBMT43p.cwgsy.net> Bobby, Not sure where they are - here's the link: http://blogs.zdnet.com/microsoft/?p=1197&tag=nl.e539 "The problem seems to affect both users who are using the SP1 Release Candidate (RC) 1 Refresh 2 bits (that came out in late January), as well as those using the SP1`bits marked as "RTM" (that went live in early February). Vista SP1 RC 1 Refresh 2 and the RTM build of Vista SP1 are the same, even though their build numbers are different, Microsoft officials have admitted. " Maybe there's another release to come...but you're right - I've installed all the recent pre-SP1 updates so far without problems. Ralph At 22:40 19/02/2008, you wrote: >I only glanced at the first page, but it looks like they are talking about >Vista SP1 RC1 (release candidate). And that surely would not be on Windows >Update! > >On another note, I have installed all of the updates recently from Windows >Update (after reviewing them, I don't let update install automatically) and >have not had any problems. I do not know what may have happened to Jurgen's >PC. > >Bobby > >-----Original Message----- >From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com >[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Ralph Bryce >Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2008 4:53 PM >To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving >Subject: Re: [AccessD] Vista SP1 > >Jurgen, > >This Technet forum discusses: > >http://forums.microsoft.com/TechNet/showpost.aspx?postid=2848906&siteid=17 > >Many people affected...looks like a system restore... > >Ralph Bryce > > > >-- >AccessD mailing list >AccessD at databaseadvisors.com >http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd >Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From jwelz at hotmail.com Tue Feb 19 18:12:55 2008 From: jwelz at hotmail.com (Jurgen Welz) Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2008 17:12:55 -0700 Subject: [AccessD] Vista SP1 In-Reply-To: <008801c87348$6bca78d0$435f6a70$@rr.com> References: <001d01c8723a$630c01a0$0301a8c0@HAL9005> <015d01c8723e$91c58940$0401a8c0@M90> <006901c87252$e0a91040$a1fb30c0$@rr.com> <200802192152932.SM07032@IBMT43p.cwgsy.net> <008801c87348$6bca78d0$435f6a70$@rr.com> Message-ID: I followed the TechNet forum link and the discussion there sure matches my problem. Ordiarily I leave this laptop at home for my wife's use and for that reason, had auto updates turned on. I'm on the road 3 weeks out of 4 these days and this machine is what she used for web cam/chat and photos so I've left the machine pretty much alone. The Acer has a 64 bit Turion running a 32 bit Vista, at least it has a System32 folder, so that is my assumption. One of the people at TechNet mentioned restoring to an earlier restore point, but my system reports no available restore points. I did get to an option that would permit restore, but the system could not find a restore point. Of course there were many restore points created, but none are accessible or available after the botch up. Even safe mode takes me to the boot error. I was able to get to regedit from DOS prompt but couldn't find a way to kill the update. I also booted from DVD and chose system repair and that too failed, in fact, I can no longer get to DOS prompt after that effort. There is a reinstall partition on the drive, and provided it is not also messed up, I will run that when I put the drive back in that laptop next weekend. I'm not looking for help with this since I am comfortable doing whatever it takes to get this system running short of giving Microsoft a penny. It looks like this is purely an auto update Microsoft created problem. It's just pathetic that there are probably a lot of people out there with computers like the Acer that didn't come with separate install CDs or DVDs who are paying big dollars to get their systems fixed. There are also likely a lot of unsophisticated users who will lose everything they have on their computers as a result of this update. CiaoJ?rgen WelzEdmonton, Albertajwelz at hotmail.com> From: bheid at sc.rr.com> To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com> Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2008 17:40:25 -0500> Subject: Re: [AccessD] Vista SP1> > I only glanced at the first page, but it looks like they are talking about> Vista SP1 RC1 (release candidate). And that surely would not be on Windows> Update!> > On another note, I have installed all of the updates recently from Windows> Update (after reviewing them, I don't let update install automatically) and> have not had any problems. I do not know what may have happened to Jurgen's> PC.> > Bobby> > -----Original Message-----> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Ralph Bryce> Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2008 4:53 PM> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving> Subject: Re: [AccessD] Vista SP1> > Jurgen,> > This Technet forum discusses:> > http://forums.microsoft.com/TechNet/showpost.aspx?postid=2848906&siteid=17> > Many people affected...looks like a system restore...> > Ralph Bryce> > > > -- > AccessD mailing list> AccessD at databaseadvisors.com> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com _________________________________________________________________ From dw-murphy at cox.net Tue Feb 19 18:47:46 2008 From: dw-murphy at cox.net (Doug Murphy) Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2008 16:47:46 -0800 Subject: [AccessD] Slow Openers In-Reply-To: <009b01c8734a$eaa7f8b0$0301a8c0@HAL9005> Message-ID: <003901c8735a$35f6d980$0200a8c0@murphy3234aaf1> Security update turned scan files before opening on??? -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Rocky Smolin at Beach Access Software Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2008 2:58 PM To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' Subject: [AccessD] Slow Openers Dear List: Suddenly (well over the past couple days) Access, Excel, and Word are opening slowly - like 30 seconds. This is a P4 3GHz box w/ 2GB Ram. What would be the most common things to look at for a cause of slow openings? MTIA Rocky -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com Tue Feb 19 19:28:28 2008 From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (jwcolby) Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2008 20:28:28 -0500 Subject: [AccessD] Vista SP1 In-Reply-To: <430E80531228BA4497C5EB1A7BA786B02771C5@stekelbes.ithelps.local> References: <001d01c8723a$630c01a0$0301a8c0@HAL9005><015d01c8723e$91c58940$0401a8c0@M90><006901c87252$e0a91040$a1fb30c0$@rr.com><200802192152932.SM07032@IBMT43p.cwgsy.net> <430E80531228BA4497C5EB1A7BA786B02771C5@stekelbes.ithelps.local> Message-ID: <01ab01c8735f$e5ccc9f0$0401a8c0@M90> ROTFL. John W. Colby Colby Consulting www.ColbyConsulting.com -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Erwin Craps - IT Helps Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2008 5:06 PM To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving Subject: Re: [AccessD] Vista SP1 Ahhhh Some times, like this time, I'm glad that the international (major) updates take 1 to 3 month longer to be available than the us English version... Thx for sharing. -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Ralph Bryce Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2008 10:53 PM To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving Subject: Re: [AccessD] Vista SP1 Jurgen, This Technet forum discusses: http://forums.microsoft.com/TechNet/showpost.aspx?postid=2848906&siteid=17 Many people affected...looks like a system restore... Ralph Bryce At 18:40 19/02/2008, you wrote: >Hmm. 4 days ago my Vista Acer 9300 play machine choked on some update >and now it won't boot. Says it doing something with update 3 of 3, 0% >done, don't power down, and then reboots to the same point in an >infinite loop. Can't find a system restore point either. I had to >pull the drive to put it in an enclosure so I could get my data off. >I'll see if the restore partition is OK next weekend. : : >I'm not sure that is was the Vista SP1 udpate that killed my machine, >but the 4 days ago timing is an exact fit. >Ciao >J?rgen Welz -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com Tue Feb 19 19:30:04 2008 From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (jwcolby) Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2008 20:30:04 -0500 Subject: [AccessD] Slow Openers In-Reply-To: <009b01c8734a$eaa7f8b0$0301a8c0@HAL9005> References: <009b01c8734a$eaa7f8b0$0301a8c0@HAL9005> Message-ID: <01ac01c87360$1ec01aa0$0401a8c0@M90> Toooooo muuuuuuchhhhhh vaaaaaaaaaliiiiiiiiuuuuuuuum? ;-) John W. Colby Colby Consulting www.ColbyConsulting.com -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Rocky Smolin at Beach Access Software Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2008 5:58 PM To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' Subject: [AccessD] Slow Openers Dear List: Suddenly (well over the past couple days) Access, Excel, and Word are opening slowly - like 30 seconds. This is a P4 3GHz box w/ 2GB Ram. What would be the most common things to look at for a cause of slow openings? MTIA Rocky -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From rockysmolin at bchacc.com Tue Feb 19 20:08:26 2008 From: rockysmolin at bchacc.com (Rocky Smolin at Beach Access Software) Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2008 18:08:26 -0800 Subject: [AccessD] Slow Openers In-Reply-To: <01ac01c87360$1ec01aa0$0401a8c0@M90> References: <009b01c8734a$eaa7f8b0$0301a8c0@HAL9005> <01ac01c87360$1ec01aa0$0401a8c0@M90> Message-ID: <00ba01c87365$7ad6ae80$0301a8c0@HAL9005> Would that the problem were that easy. I could live with it. Rocky -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of jwcolby Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2008 5:30 PM To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' Subject: Re: [AccessD] Slow Openers Toooooo muuuuuuchhhhhh vaaaaaaaaaliiiiiiiiuuuuuuuum? ;-) John W. Colby Colby Consulting www.ColbyConsulting.com -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Rocky Smolin at Beach Access Software Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2008 5:58 PM To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' Subject: [AccessD] Slow Openers Dear List: Suddenly (well over the past couple days) Access, Excel, and Word are opening slowly - like 30 seconds. This is a P4 3GHz box w/ 2GB Ram. What would be the most common things to look at for a cause of slow openings? MTIA Rocky -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.20.7/1286 - Release Date: 2/18/2008 6:49 PM From rockysmolin at bchacc.com Tue Feb 19 20:09:27 2008 From: rockysmolin at bchacc.com (Rocky Smolin at Beach Access Software) Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2008 18:09:27 -0800 Subject: [AccessD] Slow Openers In-Reply-To: <003901c8735a$35f6d980$0200a8c0@murphy3234aaf1> References: <009b01c8734a$eaa7f8b0$0301a8c0@HAL9005> <003901c8735a$35f6d980$0200a8c0@murphy3234aaf1> Message-ID: <00bb01c87365$9f945a10$0301a8c0@HAL9005> Where do I find that and turn it off? I run AVG for AV and Sygate for firewall. Is it in one of those or is it a Windows thing? Rocky -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Doug Murphy Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2008 4:48 PM To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' Subject: Re: [AccessD] Slow Openers Security update turned scan files before opening on??? -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Rocky Smolin at Beach Access Software Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2008 2:58 PM To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' Subject: [AccessD] Slow Openers Dear List: Suddenly (well over the past couple days) Access, Excel, and Word are opening slowly - like 30 seconds. This is a P4 3GHz box w/ 2GB Ram. What would be the most common things to look at for a cause of slow openings? MTIA Rocky -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.20.7/1286 - Release Date: 2/18/2008 6:49 PM From ebarro at verizon.net Tue Feb 19 20:28:56 2008 From: ebarro at verizon.net (Eric Barro) Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2008 18:28:56 -0800 Subject: [AccessD] Slow Openers In-Reply-To: <00ba01c87365$7ad6ae80$0301a8c0@HAL9005> Message-ID: <0JWI00HXQN0D5J30@vms040.mailsrvcs.net> Do you by chance have any disconnected network drives? -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Rocky Smolin at Beach Access Software Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2008 6:08 PM To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' Subject: Re: [AccessD] Slow Openers Would that the problem were that easy. I could live with it. Rocky -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of jwcolby Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2008 5:30 PM To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' Subject: Re: [AccessD] Slow Openers Toooooo muuuuuuchhhhhh vaaaaaaaaaliiiiiiiiuuuuuuuum? ;-) John W. Colby Colby Consulting www.ColbyConsulting.com -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Rocky Smolin at Beach Access Software Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2008 5:58 PM To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' Subject: [AccessD] Slow Openers Dear List: Suddenly (well over the past couple days) Access, Excel, and Word are opening slowly - like 30 seconds. This is a P4 3GHz box w/ 2GB Ram. What would be the most common things to look at for a cause of slow openings? MTIA Rocky -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.20.7/1286 - Release Date: 2/18/2008 6:49 PM -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com Tue Feb 19 20:53:26 2008 From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (jwcolby) Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2008 21:53:26 -0500 Subject: [AccessD] Slow Openers In-Reply-To: <0JWI00HXQN0D5J30@vms040.mailsrvcs.net> References: <00ba01c87365$7ad6ae80$0301a8c0@HAL9005> <0JWI00HXQN0D5J30@vms040.mailsrvcs.net> Message-ID: <01b501c8736b$c48c19b0$0401a8c0@M90> ooohhh good one. Generally that only affects explorer operations though, not the opening of the application itself. John W. Colby Colby Consulting www.ColbyConsulting.com -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Eric Barro Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2008 9:29 PM To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' Subject: Re: [AccessD] Slow Openers Do you by chance have any disconnected network drives? -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Rocky Smolin at Beach Access Software Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2008 6:08 PM To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' Subject: Re: [AccessD] Slow Openers Would that the problem were that easy. I could live with it. Rocky -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of jwcolby Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2008 5:30 PM To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' Subject: Re: [AccessD] Slow Openers Toooooo muuuuuuchhhhhh vaaaaaaaaaliiiiiiiiuuuuuuuum? ;-) John W. Colby Colby Consulting www.ColbyConsulting.com -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Rocky Smolin at Beach Access Software Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2008 5:58 PM To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' Subject: [AccessD] Slow Openers Dear List: Suddenly (well over the past couple days) Access, Excel, and Word are opening slowly - like 30 seconds. This is a P4 3GHz box w/ 2GB Ram. What would be the most common things to look at for a cause of slow openings? MTIA Rocky -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.20.7/1286 - Release Date: 2/18/2008 6:49 PM -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From rockysmolin at bchacc.com Tue Feb 19 21:20:26 2008 From: rockysmolin at bchacc.com (Rocky Smolin at Beach Access Software) Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2008 19:20:26 -0800 Subject: [AccessD] Slow Openers In-Reply-To: <0JWI00HXQN0D5J30@vms040.mailsrvcs.net> References: <00ba01c87365$7ad6ae80$0301a8c0@HAL9005> <0JWI00HXQN0D5J30@vms040.mailsrvcs.net> Message-ID: <00ce01c8736f$89e61320$0301a8c0@HAL9005> I don't think so. How would I know? Rocky -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Eric Barro Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2008 6:29 PM To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' Subject: Re: [AccessD] Slow Openers Do you by chance have any disconnected network drives? -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Rocky Smolin at Beach Access Software Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2008 6:08 PM To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' Subject: Re: [AccessD] Slow Openers Would that the problem were that easy. I could live with it. Rocky -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of jwcolby Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2008 5:30 PM To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' Subject: Re: [AccessD] Slow Openers Toooooo muuuuuuchhhhhh vaaaaaaaaaliiiiiiiiuuuuuuuum? ;-) John W. Colby Colby Consulting www.ColbyConsulting.com -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Rocky Smolin at Beach Access Software Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2008 5:58 PM To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' Subject: [AccessD] Slow Openers Dear List: Suddenly (well over the past couple days) Access, Excel, and Word are opening slowly - like 30 seconds. This is a P4 3GHz box w/ 2GB Ram. What would be the most common things to look at for a cause of slow openings? MTIA Rocky -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.20.7/1286 - Release Date: 2/18/2008 6:49 PM -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.20.8/1288 - Release Date: 2/19/2008 8:47 PM From newsgrps at dalyn.co.nz Tue Feb 19 22:36:41 2008 From: newsgrps at dalyn.co.nz (David Emerson) Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2008 17:36:41 +1300 Subject: [AccessD] Slow Openers In-Reply-To: <01b501c8736b$c48c19b0$0401a8c0@M90> References: <00ba01c87365$7ad6ae80$0301a8c0@HAL9005> <0JWI00HXQN0D5J30@vms040.mailsrvcs.net> <01b501c8736b$c48c19b0$0401a8c0@M90> Message-ID: <20080220043404.FAHX18083.fep03.xtra.co.nz@Dalyn.dalyn.co.nz> Is there any way to have explorer not check for disconnected drives unless you specifically click on them. I have a number of these which are used infrequently. It would be nice not to have to map them each time I want to use them, but also not to have the delay every time I want to explore folders, open a file etc. David At 20/02/2008, you wrote: >ooohhh good one. Generally that only affects explorer operations though, >not the opening of the application itself. > > >John W. Colby >Colby Consulting >www.ColbyConsulting.com >-----Original Message----- >From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com >[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Eric Barro >Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2008 9:29 PM >To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' >Subject: Re: [AccessD] Slow Openers > >Do you by chance have any disconnected network drives? > >-----Original Message----- >From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com >[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Rocky Smolin at >Beach Access Software >Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2008 6:08 PM >To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' >Subject: Re: [AccessD] Slow Openers > >Would that the problem were that easy. I could live with it. > >Rocky > > > > > > > > >-----Original Message----- >From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com >[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of jwcolby >Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2008 5:30 PM >To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' >Subject: Re: [AccessD] Slow Openers > >Toooooo muuuuuuchhhhhh vaaaaaaaaaliiiiiiiiuuuuuuuum? > >;-) > > >John W. Colby >Colby Consulting >www.ColbyConsulting.com >-----Original Message----- >From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com >[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Rocky Smolin at >Beach Access Software >Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2008 5:58 PM >To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' >Subject: [AccessD] Slow Openers > >Dear List: > >Suddenly (well over the past couple days) Access, Excel, and Word are >opening slowly - like 30 seconds. This is a P4 3GHz box w/ 2GB Ram. What >would be the most common things to look at for a cause of slow openings? > >MTIA > >Rocky > > > > > >-- >AccessD mailing list >AccessD at databaseadvisors.com >http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd >Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > >-- >AccessD mailing list >AccessD at databaseadvisors.com >http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd >Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > >No virus found in this incoming message. >Checked by AVG Free Edition. >Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.20.7/1286 - Release Date: 2/18/2008 >6:49 PM > > >-- >AccessD mailing list >AccessD at databaseadvisors.com >http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd >Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > >-- >AccessD mailing list >AccessD at databaseadvisors.com >http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd >Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > >-- >AccessD mailing list >AccessD at databaseadvisors.com >http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd >Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From darren at activebilling.com.au Tue Feb 19 23:36:37 2008 From: darren at activebilling.com.au (Darren D) Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2008 16:36:37 +1100 Subject: [AccessD] Slow Openers In-Reply-To: <20080220043404.FAHX18083.fep03.xtra.co.nz@Dalyn.dalyn.co.nz> Message-ID: <200802200536.m1K5aaMI015631@databaseadvisors.com> Hi David As far as I know - no - but if it can be done - Someone here will know :-) However - I am in the same position as you Laptop at work - Into network drives all day Take laptop home - and things slow down So I just have a batch file I double click in the morning when I get to work And one I double click in the evenings This of course can be automated through access and the batch files made to run 'hidden' You can even shell the commands from access - No need for batch files But I like to keep it in one file for portability outside Access There are quite a few ways to achieve this - I use this method for its ease Something like ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Rem MakeConns.bat @echo off cls net use N: \\ ServerNameHere juliet\EDrive\ClientFolders net use W: \\ ServerNameHere juliet\CDrive net use H: "\\ ServerNameHere hoseb\RAID5_01 (G)" ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Then to "kill" 'em one by one ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Rem KillConns.bat @echo off cls net use /DELETE N: \\ ServerNameHere juliet\EDrive\ClientFolders net use /DELETE W: \\ ServerNameHere juliet\CDrive net use /DELETE H: "\\ ServerNameHere hoseb\RAID5_01 (G)" ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Rem KillAllConns.bat @echo off Cls NET USE * /DELETE Rem un-rem the line below to do it without being prompted Rem NET USE * /DELETE /Y ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Hope this helps Have a great day Darren ----------------- T: 1300 301 731 -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of David Emerson Sent: Wednesday, 20 February 2008 3:37 PM To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving Subject: Re: [AccessD] Slow Openers Is there any way to have explorer not check for disconnected drives unless you specifically click on them. I have a number of these which are used infrequently. It would be nice not to have to map them each time I want to use them, but also not to have the delay every time I want to explore folders, open a file etc. David At 20/02/2008, you wrote: >ooohhh good one. Generally that only affects explorer operations though, >not the opening of the application itself. > > >John W. Colby >Colby Consulting >www.ColbyConsulting.com >-----Original Message----- >From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com >[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Eric Barro >Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2008 9:29 PM >To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' >Subject: Re: [AccessD] Slow Openers > >Do you by chance have any disconnected network drives? > >-----Original Message----- >From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com >[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Rocky Smolin at >Beach Access Software >Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2008 6:08 PM >To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' >Subject: Re: [AccessD] Slow Openers > >Would that the problem were that easy. I could live with it. > >Rocky > > > > > > > > >-----Original Message----- >From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com >[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of jwcolby >Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2008 5:30 PM >To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' >Subject: Re: [AccessD] Slow Openers > >Toooooo muuuuuuchhhhhh vaaaaaaaaaliiiiiiiiuuuuuuuum? > >;-) > > >John W. Colby >Colby Consulting >www.ColbyConsulting.com >-----Original Message----- >From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com >[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Rocky Smolin at >Beach Access Software >Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2008 5:58 PM >To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' >Subject: [AccessD] Slow Openers > >Dear List: > >Suddenly (well over the past couple days) Access, Excel, and Word are >opening slowly - like 30 seconds. This is a P4 3GHz box w/ 2GB Ram. What >would be the most common things to look at for a cause of slow openings? > >MTIA > >Rocky > > > > > >-- >AccessD mailing list >AccessD at databaseadvisors.com >http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd >Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > >-- >AccessD mailing list >AccessD at databaseadvisors.com >http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd >Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > >No virus found in this incoming message. >Checked by AVG Free Edition. >Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.20.7/1286 - Release Date: 2/18/2008 >6:49 PM > > >-- >AccessD mailing list >AccessD at databaseadvisors.com >http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd >Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > >-- >AccessD mailing list >AccessD at databaseadvisors.com >http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd >Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > >-- >AccessD mailing list >AccessD at databaseadvisors.com >http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd >Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.20.8/1287 - Release Date: 19/02/2008 10:55 AM No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.20.8/1287 - Release Date: 19/02/2008 10:55 AM From newsgrps at dalyn.co.nz Tue Feb 19 23:48:06 2008 From: newsgrps at dalyn.co.nz (David Emerson) Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2008 18:48:06 +1300 Subject: [AccessD] Slow Openers In-Reply-To: <200802200536.m1K5aaMI015631@databaseadvisors.com> References: <20080220043404.FAHX18083.fep03.xtra.co.nz@Dalyn.dalyn.co.nz> <200802200536.m1K5aaMI015631@databaseadvisors.com> Message-ID: <20080220054520.XNWC9910.fep05.xtra.co.nz@Dalyn.dalyn.co.nz> Thanks Darren. At 20/02/2008, you wrote: >Hi David > >As far as I know - no - but if it can be done - Someone here will know :-) > >However - I am in the same position as you >Laptop at work - Into network drives all day >Take laptop home - and things slow down >So I just have a batch file I double click in the morning when I get to work >And one I double click in the evenings > >This of course can be automated through access and the batch files made to run >'hidden' >You can even shell the commands from access - No need for batch files >But I like to keep it in one file for portability outside Access > >There are quite a few ways to achieve this - I use this method for its ease > >Something like >~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ >Rem MakeConns.bat >@echo off >cls >net use N: \\ ServerNameHere juliet\EDrive\ClientFolders >net use W: \\ ServerNameHere juliet\CDrive >net use H: "\\ ServerNameHere hoseb\RAID5_01 (G)" > >~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ >Then to "kill" 'em one by one >~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ >Rem KillConns.bat >@echo off >cls >net use /DELETE N: \\ ServerNameHere juliet\EDrive\ClientFolders >net use /DELETE W: \\ ServerNameHere juliet\CDrive >net use /DELETE H: "\\ ServerNameHere hoseb\RAID5_01 (G)" > >~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ >~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ >Rem KillAllConns.bat >@echo off >Cls >NET USE * /DELETE >Rem un-rem the line below to do it without being prompted >Rem NET USE * /DELETE /Y >~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > >Hope this helps >Have a great day > >Darren >----------------- >T: 1300 301 731 > >-----Original Message----- >From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com >[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of David Emerson >Sent: Wednesday, 20 February 2008 3:37 PM >To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving >Subject: Re: [AccessD] Slow Openers > >Is there any way to have explorer not check for disconnected drives >unless you specifically click on them. I have a number of these >which are used infrequently. It would be nice not to have to map >them each time I want to use them, but also not to have the delay >every time I want to explore folders, open a file etc. > >David > >At 20/02/2008, you wrote: > >ooohhh good one. Generally that only affects explorer operations though, > >not the opening of the application itself. > > > > > >John W. Colby > >Colby Consulting > >www.ColbyConsulting.com > >-----Original Message----- > >From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > >[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Eric Barro > >Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2008 9:29 PM > >To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' > >Subject: Re: [AccessD] Slow Openers > > > >Do you by chance have any disconnected network drives? > > > >-----Original Message----- > >From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > >[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Rocky Smolin at > >Beach Access Software > >Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2008 6:08 PM > >To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' > >Subject: Re: [AccessD] Slow Openers > > > >Would that the problem were that easy. I could live with it. > > > >Rocky > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >-----Original Message----- > >From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > >[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of jwcolby > >Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2008 5:30 PM > >To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' > >Subject: Re: [AccessD] Slow Openers > > > >Toooooo muuuuuuchhhhhh vaaaaaaaaaliiiiiiiiuuuuuuuum? > > > >;-) > > > > > >John W. Colby > >Colby Consulting > >www.ColbyConsulting.com > >-----Original Message----- > >From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > >[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Rocky Smolin at > >Beach Access Software > >Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2008 5:58 PM > >To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' > >Subject: [AccessD] Slow Openers > > > >Dear List: > > > >Suddenly (well over the past couple days) Access, Excel, and Word are > >opening slowly - like 30 seconds. This is a P4 3GHz box w/ 2GB Ram. What > >would be the most common things to look at for a cause of slow openings? > > > >MTIA > > > >Rocky > > > > > > > > > > > >-- > >AccessD mailing list > >AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > >http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > >Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > > >-- > >AccessD mailing list > >AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > >http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > >Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > > >No virus found in this incoming message. > >Checked by AVG Free Edition. > >Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.20.7/1286 - Release Date: 2/18/2008 > >6:49 PM > > > > > >-- > >AccessD mailing list > >AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > >http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > >Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > > >-- > >AccessD mailing list > >AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > >http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > >Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > > >-- > >AccessD mailing list > >AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > >http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > >Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > >-- >AccessD mailing list >AccessD at databaseadvisors.com >http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd >Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > >No virus found in this incoming message. >Checked by AVG Free Edition. >Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.20.8/1287 - Release Date: 19/02/2008 >10:55 AM > > >No virus found in this outgoing message. >Checked by AVG Free Edition. >Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.20.8/1287 - Release Date: 19/02/2008 >10:55 AM > > >-- >AccessD mailing list >AccessD at databaseadvisors.com >http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd >Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From ebarro at verizon.net Wed Feb 20 00:35:11 2008 From: ebarro at verizon.net (Eric Barro) Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2008 22:35:11 -0800 Subject: [AccessD] Slow Openers In-Reply-To: <00ce01c8736f$89e61320$0301a8c0@HAL9005> Message-ID: <0JWI00H84YES4CK0@vms040.mailsrvcs.net> Open My Computer and then check on the section where it says Network Drives. This will show any mapped networked drive and to the right of it you will either see Disconnected network drive or Connected network drive. -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Rocky Smolin at Beach Access Software Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2008 7:20 PM To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' Subject: Re: [AccessD] Slow Openers I don't think so. How would I know? Rocky -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Eric Barro Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2008 6:29 PM To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' Subject: Re: [AccessD] Slow Openers Do you by chance have any disconnected network drives? -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Rocky Smolin at Beach Access Software Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2008 6:08 PM To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' Subject: Re: [AccessD] Slow Openers Would that the problem were that easy. I could live with it. Rocky -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of jwcolby Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2008 5:30 PM To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' Subject: Re: [AccessD] Slow Openers Toooooo muuuuuuchhhhhh vaaaaaaaaaliiiiiiiiuuuuuuuum? ;-) John W. Colby Colby Consulting www.ColbyConsulting.com -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Rocky Smolin at Beach Access Software Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2008 5:58 PM To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' Subject: [AccessD] Slow Openers Dear List: Suddenly (well over the past couple days) Access, Excel, and Word are opening slowly - like 30 seconds. This is a P4 3GHz box w/ 2GB Ram. What would be the most common things to look at for a cause of slow openings? MTIA Rocky -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.20.7/1286 - Release Date: 2/18/2008 6:49 PM -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.20.8/1288 - Release Date: 2/19/2008 8:47 PM -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From Erwin.Craps at ithelps.eu Wed Feb 20 00:36:07 2008 From: Erwin.Craps at ithelps.eu (Erwin Craps - IT Helps) Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2008 07:36:07 +0100 Subject: [AccessD] Slow Openers References: <009b01c8734a$eaa7f8b0$0301a8c0@HAL9005> Message-ID: <430E80531228BA4497C5EB1A7BA786B02771C6@stekelbes.ithelps.local> Sounds like a virus scanner problem or a disk with bad clusters (check event viewer). -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Rocky Smolin at Beach Access Software Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2008 11:58 PM To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' Subject: [AccessD] Slow Openers Dear List: Suddenly (well over the past couple days) Access, Excel, and Word are opening slowly - like 30 seconds. This is a P4 3GHz box w/ 2GB Ram. What would be the most common things to look at for a cause of slow openings? MTIA Rocky -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From Gustav at cactus.dk Wed Feb 20 02:31:35 2008 From: Gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock) Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2008 09:31:35 +0100 Subject: [AccessD] Tip: Replacement for Split in SQL Message-ID: Hi all In SQL Split cannot be used as SQL doesn't accept a syntax to retrieve a single value from the array Split returns. But if you have a field with a content like: xyz.001.1234.ab you can simulate Split like this to split the content into its four parts: SELECT Code, InStr(1,[Code],".") AS Dot1, InStr(1+[Dot1],[Code],".") AS Dot2, InStr(1+[Dot2],[Code],".") AS Dot3, Mid([Code],1,[Dot1]-1) AS Col1, Mid([Code],1+[Dot1],[Dot2]-[Dot1]-1) AS Col2, Mid([Code],1+[Dot2],[Dot3]-[Dot2]-1) AS Col3, Mid([Code],1+[Dot3]) AS Col4 FROM tblSomeTable; It can easily be expanded to return more columns. /gustav From rosalyn.clarke at barclays.com Wed Feb 20 03:54:12 2008 From: rosalyn.clarke at barclays.com (rosalyn.clarke at barclays.com) Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2008 09:54:12 -0000 Subject: [AccessD] OT: Word Message-ID: <0F978DF74B416B44A351B9143EB0FD330236CD8A@MUKPBCC1XMB0103.collab.barclayscorp.com> Hi guys It looks like I will be doing more with pesky malfunctioning Word templates than with Access databases on this job. Can anyone recommend a good Word discussion list? TIA Roz This e-mail and any attachments are confidential and intended solely for the addressee and may also be privileged or exempt from disclosure under applicable law. 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Barclays Bank PLC is authorised and regulated by the Financial Services Authority. From Chris.Foote at uk.thalesgroup.com Wed Feb 20 04:08:43 2008 From: Chris.Foote at uk.thalesgroup.com (Foote, Chris) Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2008 10:08:43 -0000 Subject: [AccessD] OT: Word Message-ID: <7303A459C921B5499AF732CCEEAD2B7F064D13C0@craws161660.int.rdel.co.uk> You have my utmost sympathy Roz ;-) BTW - any chance of running the SQL command DELETE * FROM tblOutstandingOverdrafts WHERE fldCustomer="Chris Foote" Regards! Chris F > -----Original Message----- > From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of > rosalyn.clarke at barclays.com > Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2008 9:54 AM > To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com > Subject: [AccessD] OT: Word > > > Hi guys > > It looks like I will be doing more with pesky malfunctioning > Word templates > than with Access databases on this job. Can anyone recommend > a good Word > discussion list? > > TIA > > Roz > > > This e-mail and any attachments are confidential and intended > solely for the addressee and may also be privileged or exempt > from disclosure under applicable law. If you are not the > addressee, or have received this e-mail in error, please > notify the sender immediately, delete it from your system and > do not copy, disclose or otherwise act upon any part of this > e-mail or its attachments. > > Internet communications are not guaranteed to be secure or virus-free. > The Barclays Group does not accept responsibility for any > loss arising from unauthorised access to, or interference > with, any Internet communications by any third party, or from > the transmission of any viruses. Replies to this e-mail may > be monitored by the Barclays Group for operational or > business reasons. > > Any opinion or other information in this e-mail or its > attachments that does not relate to the business of the > Barclays Group is personal to the sender and is not given or > endorsed by the Barclays Group. > > Barclays Bank PLC.Registered in England and Wales (registered > no. 1026167). > Registered Office: 1 Churchill Place, London, E14 5HP, United Kingdom. > > Barclays Bank PLC is authorised and regulated by the > Financial Services Authority. > -- > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > From ssharkins at gmail.com Wed Feb 20 05:48:11 2008 From: ssharkins at gmail.com (Susan Harkins) Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2008 06:48:11 -0500 Subject: [AccessD] OT: Word References: <0F978DF74B416B44A351B9143EB0FD330236CD8A@MUKPBCC1XMB0103.collab.barclayscorp.com> Message-ID: <003201c873b7$814aee00$4b3a8343@SusanOne> Well, I'm on the dba-tech list and I ask Word questions over there and always get good answers. It might not be the only Word list you need, but would be a great place to start until you find a focused list. Susan H. > Hi guys > > It looks like I will be doing more with pesky malfunctioning Word > templates > than with Access databases on this job. Can anyone recommend a good Word > discussion list? From paul.hartland at fsmail.net Wed Feb 20 06:21:47 2008 From: paul.hartland at fsmail.net (paul.hartland at fsmail.net) Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2008 13:21:47 +0100 (CET) Subject: [AccessD] Tip: Replacement for Split in SQL Message-ID: <22237084.999581203510107870.JavaMail.www@wwinf3102> There's a split function that I copied (can't quite remember where from), but you pass it any string with any delimiter, and it splits the string into rows. I suppose with a bit of a work around you could get it to appear as columns: set ANSI_NULLS ON set QUOTED_IDENTIFIER ON go CREATE FUNCTION [dbo].[Split] /* This function is used to split up multi-value parameters */ ( @ItemList NVARCHAR(4000), @delimiter CHAR(1) ) RETURNS @IDTable TABLE (Item VARCHAR(50)) AS BEGIN DECLARE @tempItemList NVARCHAR(4000) SET @tempItemList = @ItemList DECLARE @i INT DECLARE @Item NVARCHAR(4000) SET @tempItemList = REPLACE (@tempItemList, @delimiter + ' ', @delimiter) SET @i = CHARINDEX(@delimiter, @tempItemList) WHILE (LEN(@tempItemList) > 0) BEGIN IF @i = 0 SET @Item = @tempItemList ELSE SET @Item = LEFT(@tempItemList, @i - 1) INSERT INTO @IDTable(Item) VALUES(@Item) IF @i = 0 SET @tempItemList = '' ELSE SET @tempItemList = RIGHT(@tempItemList, LEN(@tempItemList) - @i) SET @i = CHARINDEX(@delimiter, @tempItemList) END RETURN END Then use something like SELECT ITEM FROM dbo.Split('123.sds.w.2321.ss','.') Paul Hartland Message Received: Feb 20 2008, 11:04 AM From: "Gustav Brock" To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Cc: Subject: [AccessD] Tip: Replacement for Split in SQL Hi all In SQL Split cannot be used as SQL doesn't accept a syntax to retrieve a single value from the array Split returns. But if you have a field with a content like: xyz.001.1234.ab you can simulate Split like this to split the content into its four parts: SELECT Code, InStr(1,[Code],".") AS Dot1, InStr(1+[Dot1],[Code],".") AS Dot2, InStr(1+[Dot2],[Code],".") AS Dot3, Mid([Code],1,[Dot1]-1) AS Col1, Mid([Code],1+[Dot1],[Dot2]-[Dot1]-1) AS Col2, Mid([Code],1+[Dot2],[Dot3]-[Dot2]-1) AS Col3, Mid([Code],1+[Dot3]) AS Col4 FROM tblSomeTable; It can easily be expanded to return more columns. /gustav -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com Paul Hartland paul.hartland at fsmail.net 07730 523179 From max.wanadoo at gmail.com Wed Feb 20 06:45:16 2008 From: max.wanadoo at gmail.com (Max Wanadoo) Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2008 12:45:16 -0000 Subject: [AccessD] OT: Word In-Reply-To: <0F978DF74B416B44A351B9143EB0FD330236CD8A@MUKPBCC1XMB0103.collab.barclayscorp.com> References: <0F978DF74B416B44A351B9143EB0FD330236CD8A@MUKPBCC1XMB0103.collab.barclayscorp.com> Message-ID: <004901c873be$727415d0$8119fea9@LTVM> Not a List, but some links: VBA http://www.jojo-zawawi.com/code-samples-pages/code-samples.htm http://visualbasic.about.com/library/weekly/aa021503a.htm TIPS http://wordtips.vitalnews.com/ http://malektips.com/microsoft_word_help_and_tips.html http://www.gmayor.com/Word_pages.htm Max -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of rosalyn.clarke at barclays.com Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2008 9:54 AM To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: [AccessD] OT: Word Hi guys It looks like I will be doing more with pesky malfunctioning Word templates than with Access databases on this job. Can anyone recommend a good Word discussion list? TIA Roz From garykjos at gmail.com Wed Feb 20 09:11:16 2008 From: garykjos at gmail.com (Gary Kjos) Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2008 09:11:16 -0600 Subject: [AccessD] Slow Openers In-Reply-To: <009b01c8734a$eaa7f8b0$0301a8c0@HAL9005> References: <009b01c8734a$eaa7f8b0$0301a8c0@HAL9005> Message-ID: Have you Defragged lately? I found that my Vista system automatically defrag's. I don't think the XP systems do though do they? There was just some updates for Office that came out that might have caused your drive to become fragemented. GK. On 2/19/08, Rocky Smolin at Beach Access Software wrote: > Dear List: > > Suddenly (well over the past couple days) Access, Excel, and Word are > opening slowly - like 30 seconds. This is a P4 3GHz box w/ 2GB Ram. What > would be the most common things to look at for a cause of slow openings? > > MTIA > > Rocky > > > > > > -- > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > -- Gary Kjos garykjos at gmail.com From Erwin.Craps at ithelps.eu Wed Feb 20 09:30:59 2008 From: Erwin.Craps at ithelps.eu (Erwin Craps - IT Helps) Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2008 16:30:59 +0100 Subject: [AccessD] Slow Openers References: <009b01c8734a$eaa7f8b0$0301a8c0@HAL9005> Message-ID: <430E80531228BA4497C5EB1A7BA786B02771D2@stekelbes.ithelps.local> Do you experience lots of disk activity? Google desktop indexing your computer? -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gary Kjos Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2008 4:11 PM To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving Subject: Re: [AccessD] Slow Openers Have you Defragged lately? I found that my Vista system automatically defrag's. I don't think the XP systems do though do they? There was just some updates for Office that came out that might have caused your drive to become fragemented. GK. On 2/19/08, Rocky Smolin at Beach Access Software wrote: > Dear List: > > Suddenly (well over the past couple days) Access, Excel, and Word are > opening slowly - like 30 seconds. This is a P4 3GHz box w/ 2GB Ram. What > would be the most common things to look at for a cause of slow openings? > > MTIA > > Rocky > > > > > > -- > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > -- Gary Kjos garykjos at gmail.com -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From rockysmolin at bchacc.com Wed Feb 20 09:31:56 2008 From: rockysmolin at bchacc.com (Rocky Smolin at Beach Access Software) Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2008 07:31:56 -0800 Subject: [AccessD] Speech Recognition - Access commands Message-ID: <002f01c873d5$ba419e70$0301a8c0@HAL9005> Dear List: I think someone posted a link here in the last week to a site which gave speech recognition commands for Access to do editing, move stuff around, etc. But I can't find it here or in the archives. Does anyone recall that? MTIA Rocky From markamatte at hotmail.com Wed Feb 20 09:32:45 2008 From: markamatte at hotmail.com (Mark A Matte) Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2008 15:32:45 +0000 Subject: [AccessD] Slow Openers In-Reply-To: <20080220043404.FAHX18083.fep03.xtra.co.nz@Dalyn.dalyn.co.nz> References: <00ba01c87365$7ad6ae80$0301a8c0@HAL9005> <0JWI00HXQN0D5J30@vms040.mailsrvcs.net> <01b501c8736b$c48c19b0$0401a8c0@M90> <20080220043404.FAHX18083.fep03.xtra.co.nz@Dalyn.dalyn.co.nz> Message-ID: Before we went from NT to XP OS...I did not have rights to map new drives...so I did it in Access. You can map from VBA. You can even choose if persistant. So...you could have 1 button to map ALL drives...but only when needed. Mark A. Matte > Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2008 17:36:41 +1300 > To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com > From: newsgrps at dalyn.co.nz > Subject: Re: [AccessD] Slow Openers > > Is there any way to have explorer not check for disconnected drives > unless you specifically click on them. I have a number of these > which are used infrequently. It would be nice not to have to map > them each time I want to use them, but also not to have the delay > every time I want to explore folders, open a file etc. > > David > > At 20/02/2008, you wrote: >>ooohhh good one. Generally that only affects explorer operations though, >>not the opening of the application itself. >> >> >>John W. Colby >>Colby Consulting >>www.ColbyConsulting.com >>-----Original Message----- >>From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com >>[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Eric Barro >>Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2008 9:29 PM >>To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' >>Subject: Re: [AccessD] Slow Openers >> >>Do you by chance have any disconnected network drives? >> >>-----Original Message----- >>From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com >>[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Rocky Smolin at >>Beach Access Software >>Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2008 6:08 PM >>To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' >>Subject: Re: [AccessD] Slow Openers >> >>Would that the problem were that easy. I could live with it. >> >>Rocky >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>-----Original Message----- >>From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com >>[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of jwcolby >>Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2008 5:30 PM >>To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' >>Subject: Re: [AccessD] Slow Openers >> >>Toooooo muuuuuuchhhhhh vaaaaaaaaaliiiiiiiiuuuuuuuum? >> >>;-) >> >> >>John W. Colby >>Colby Consulting >>www.ColbyConsulting.com >>-----Original Message----- >>From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com >>[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Rocky Smolin at >>Beach Access Software >>Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2008 5:58 PM >>To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' >>Subject: [AccessD] Slow Openers >> >>Dear List: >> >>Suddenly (well over the past couple days) Access, Excel, and Word are >>opening slowly - like 30 seconds. This is a P4 3GHz box w/ 2GB Ram. What >>would be the most common things to look at for a cause of slow openings? >> >>MTIA >> >>Rocky >> >> >> >> >> >>-- >>AccessD mailing list >>AccessD at databaseadvisors.com >>http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd >>Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com >> >>-- >>AccessD mailing list >>AccessD at databaseadvisors.com >>http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd >>Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com >> >>No virus found in this incoming message. >>Checked by AVG Free Edition. >>Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.20.7/1286 - Release Date: 2/18/2008 >>6:49 PM >> >> >>-- >>AccessD mailing list >>AccessD at databaseadvisors.com >>http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd >>Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com >> >>-- >>AccessD mailing list >>AccessD at databaseadvisors.com >>http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd >>Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com >> >>-- >>AccessD mailing list >>AccessD at databaseadvisors.com >>http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd >>Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > -- > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com _________________________________________________________________ Shed those extra pounds with MSN and The Biggest Loser! http://biggestloser.msn.com/ From rockysmolin at bchacc.com Wed Feb 20 09:33:59 2008 From: rockysmolin at bchacc.com (Rocky Smolin at Beach Access Software) Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2008 07:33:59 -0800 Subject: [AccessD] Slow Openers In-Reply-To: <0JWI00H84YES4CK0@vms040.mailsrvcs.net> References: <00ce01c8736f$89e61320$0301a8c0@HAL9005> <0JWI00H84YES4CK0@vms040.mailsrvcs.net> Message-ID: <003401c873d6$03bf3f80$0301a8c0@HAL9005> I have no network drives. There was no Network Drives section in My Computer, but I found what I think you' re referring to by right clicking. Rocky -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Eric Barro Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2008 10:35 PM To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' Subject: Re: [AccessD] Slow Openers Open My Computer and then check on the section where it says Network Drives. This will show any mapped networked drive and to the right of it you will either see Disconnected network drive or Connected network drive. -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Rocky Smolin at Beach Access Software Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2008 7:20 PM To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' Subject: Re: [AccessD] Slow Openers I don't think so. How would I know? Rocky -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Eric Barro Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2008 6:29 PM To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' Subject: Re: [AccessD] Slow Openers Do you by chance have any disconnected network drives? -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Rocky Smolin at Beach Access Software Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2008 6:08 PM To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' Subject: Re: [AccessD] Slow Openers Would that the problem were that easy. I could live with it. Rocky -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of jwcolby Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2008 5:30 PM To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' Subject: Re: [AccessD] Slow Openers Toooooo muuuuuuchhhhhh vaaaaaaaaaliiiiiiiiuuuuuuuum? ;-) John W. Colby Colby Consulting www.ColbyConsulting.com -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Rocky Smolin at Beach Access Software Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2008 5:58 PM To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' Subject: [AccessD] Slow Openers Dear List: Suddenly (well over the past couple days) Access, Excel, and Word are opening slowly - like 30 seconds. This is a P4 3GHz box w/ 2GB Ram. What would be the most common things to look at for a cause of slow openings? MTIA Rocky -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.20.7/1286 - Release Date: 2/18/2008 6:49 PM -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.20.8/1288 - Release Date: 2/19/2008 8:47 PM -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.20.8/1288 - Release Date: 2/19/2008 8:47 PM From rockysmolin at bchacc.com Wed Feb 20 09:40:25 2008 From: rockysmolin at bchacc.com (Rocky Smolin at Beach Access Software) Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2008 07:40:25 -0800 Subject: [AccessD] Slow Openers In-Reply-To: <430E80531228BA4497C5EB1A7BA786B02771C6@stekelbes.ithelps.local> References: <009b01c8734a$eaa7f8b0$0301a8c0@HAL9005> <430E80531228BA4497C5EB1A7BA786B02771C6@stekelbes.ithelps.local> Message-ID: <003801c873d6$e9647690$0301a8c0@HAL9005> Erwin: I run AVG free edition but I don't see any place to turn scan file before opening on or off. Also run Sygate but same there. Is there a windows feature that might have got changed during an update? Something changed in the last week or so. Rocky -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Erwin Craps - IT Helps Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2008 10:36 PM To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving Subject: Re: [AccessD] Slow Openers Sounds like a virus scanner problem or a disk with bad clusters (check event viewer). -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Rocky Smolin at Beach Access Software Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2008 11:58 PM To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' Subject: [AccessD] Slow Openers Dear List: Suddenly (well over the past couple days) Access, Excel, and Word are opening slowly - like 30 seconds. This is a P4 3GHz box w/ 2GB Ram. What would be the most common things to look at for a cause of slow openings? MTIA Rocky -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.20.8/1288 - Release Date: 2/19/2008 8:47 PM From rockysmolin at bchacc.com Wed Feb 20 09:41:15 2008 From: rockysmolin at bchacc.com (Rocky Smolin at Beach Access Software) Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2008 07:41:15 -0800 Subject: [AccessD] Slow Openers In-Reply-To: References: <009b01c8734a$eaa7f8b0$0301a8c0@HAL9005> Message-ID: <003901c873d7$07961ba0$0301a8c0@HAL9005> I'll give that a try. Got to go out for a couple hours today. So I'll start it then. Rocky -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gary Kjos Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2008 7:11 AM To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving Subject: Re: [AccessD] Slow Openers Have you Defragged lately? I found that my Vista system automatically defrag's. I don't think the XP systems do though do they? There was just some updates for Office that came out that might have caused your drive to become fragemented. GK. On 2/19/08, Rocky Smolin at Beach Access Software wrote: > Dear List: > > Suddenly (well over the past couple days) Access, Excel, and Word are > opening slowly - like 30 seconds. This is a P4 3GHz box w/ 2GB Ram. > What would be the most common things to look at for a cause of slow openings? > > MTIA > > Rocky > > > > > > -- > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > -- Gary Kjos garykjos at gmail.com -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.20.8/1288 - Release Date: 2/19/2008 8:47 PM From rockysmolin at bchacc.com Wed Feb 20 09:42:37 2008 From: rockysmolin at bchacc.com (Rocky Smolin at Beach Access Software) Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2008 07:42:37 -0800 Subject: [AccessD] Slow Openers In-Reply-To: <430E80531228BA4497C5EB1A7BA786B02771D2@stekelbes.ithelps.local> References: <009b01c8734a$eaa7f8b0$0301a8c0@HAL9005> <430E80531228BA4497C5EB1A7BA786B02771D2@stekelbes.ithelps.local> Message-ID: <003a01c873d7$3b4fd670$0301a8c0@HAL9005> I don't think there's a lot of disk activity. But the LED is tiny and under the desk and the HD on this box is real quiet. And I don't use Google desktop. At least not that I know of (there's so much stuff that goes on now behind the scenes). Rocky -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Erwin Craps - IT Helps Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2008 7:31 AM To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving Subject: Re: [AccessD] Slow Openers Do you experience lots of disk activity? Google desktop indexing your computer? -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gary Kjos Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2008 4:11 PM To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving Subject: Re: [AccessD] Slow Openers Have you Defragged lately? I found that my Vista system automatically defrag's. I don't think the XP systems do though do they? There was just some updates for Office that came out that might have caused your drive to become fragemented. GK. On 2/19/08, Rocky Smolin at Beach Access Software wrote: > Dear List: > > Suddenly (well over the past couple days) Access, Excel, and Word are > opening slowly - like 30 seconds. This is a P4 3GHz box w/ 2GB Ram. What > would be the most common things to look at for a cause of slow openings? > > MTIA > > Rocky > > > > > > -- > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > -- Gary Kjos garykjos at gmail.com -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.20.8/1288 - Release Date: 2/19/2008 8:47 PM From jimdettman at verizon.net Wed Feb 20 09:49:23 2008 From: jimdettman at verizon.net (Jim Dettman) Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2008 10:49:23 -0500 Subject: [AccessD] Print settings problems with 2003. Message-ID: <038501c873d8$2ae2dca0$8abea8c0@XPS> All, Just moved a client from Phoenix to Ohio and in the process am now running their apps under Access 2003, SP3. Originally they were running under A2000. I left all the databases in 2000 format. I'm seeing a variety of printing issues, but it boils down to margins and orientation are getting messed up when a report opens. I've already turned off Auto Correct and that didn't fix it. Anyone have any ideas? This is rather urgent as things are starting to come to a standstill and it's turning into a major mess. Thanks, Jim. From rockysmolin at bchacc.com Wed Feb 20 10:01:30 2008 From: rockysmolin at bchacc.com (Rocky Smolin at Beach Access Software) Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2008 08:01:30 -0800 Subject: [AccessD] FW: 2003 v. 2007 Message-ID: <004401c873d9$e2ac9dc0$0301a8c0@HAL9005> Dear List: >From a client with a rather large application. From time to time I develop routines or events that work, and fail when he tries it at his site using 2007. Then when he moves the app to his laptop which is running 2003 it works. The description of what he's doing is, I know, a bit obscure. But I'm wondering if anyone else has seen these kinds of differences between the two versions of Access and if there was a generalized solution or if each difference has to be tracked down separately. MTIA Rocky -----Original Message----- From: Jack Stone [mailto:jack.stone at solidcounsel.com] Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2008 8:21 PM To: Rocky Smolin at Beach Access Software Subject: 2003 v. 2007 Rocky: I tried those two items we discussed earlier today, and found the following results: The following worked with 2003, but not 2007: * On the Matters form for a new matter, when I use the Predefined button or any of the Actions buttons on the Patent Info or Trademark Info tabs, the action(s) is/are not displayed on the form until after I close the form and re-open it, so please have that corrected The following did not work with 2003 or 2007: * If I check a Related Matter to be a Priority and/or Int'l matter, the Actions buttons next to the Priority and Int'l dates in red and green below do not work (that is, the date types do not even display in the Add Actions form) until after I click on the Predefined button on the Actions tab. Regards, From dwaters at usinternet.com Wed Feb 20 10:06:54 2008 From: dwaters at usinternet.com (Dan Waters) Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2008 10:06:54 -0600 Subject: [AccessD] Print settings problems with 2003. In-Reply-To: <038501c873d8$2ae2dca0$8abea8c0@XPS> References: <038501c873d8$2ae2dca0$8abea8c0@XPS> Message-ID: <000b01c873da$9cc30370$0300a8c0@danwaters> Jim, Were the reports previously set to use a specific printer, which no longer exists? Dan -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim Dettman Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2008 9:49 AM To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' Subject: [AccessD] Print settings problems with 2003. All, Just moved a client from Phoenix to Ohio and in the process am now running their apps under Access 2003, SP3. Originally they were running under A2000. I left all the databases in 2000 format. I'm seeing a variety of printing issues, but it boils down to margins and orientation are getting messed up when a report opens. I've already turned off Auto Correct and that didn't fix it. Anyone have any ideas? This is rather urgent as things are starting to come to a standstill and it's turning into a major mess. Thanks, Jim. -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From jimdettman at verizon.net Wed Feb 20 10:54:42 2008 From: jimdettman at verizon.net (Jim Dettman) Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2008 11:54:42 -0500 Subject: [AccessD] Print settings problems with 2003. In-Reply-To: <000b01c873da$9cc30370$0300a8c0@danwaters> References: <038501c873d8$2ae2dca0$8abea8c0@XPS> <000b01c873da$9cc30370$0300a8c0@danwaters> Message-ID: <03b001c873e1$4ab30060$8abea8c0@XPS> Dan, Not all. Most are set to "Use Default", but even in the cases where a report was set to a specific printer, the same thing has happened. It was first noticed in a label program. 4 x 6 labels created for landscape started printing out in portrait mode. This was even with the exact same printer and driver setup on the new box (there was no warning that the report was being formatted for another printer when opened). I also tried running some code using the application.printer object to grab defaults and then update the reports. Got a lot of weird errors out of that (ie. could not set margins without an error, device name in the report would end up blank, etc). process and have resorted to changing everything by hand. JimD. -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Dan Waters Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2008 11:07 AM To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' Subject: Re: [AccessD] Print settings problems with 2003. Jim, Were the reports previously set to use a specific printer, which no longer exists? Dan -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim Dettman Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2008 9:49 AM To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' Subject: [AccessD] Print settings problems with 2003. All, Just moved a client from Phoenix to Ohio and in the process am now running their apps under Access 2003, SP3. Originally they were running under A2000. I left all the databases in 2000 format. I'm seeing a variety of printing issues, but it boils down to margins and orientation are getting messed up when a report opens. I've already turned off Auto Correct and that didn't fix it. Anyone have any ideas? This is rather urgent as things are starting to come to a standstill and it's turning into a major mess. Thanks, Jim. -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From dwaters at usinternet.com Wed Feb 20 11:27:15 2008 From: dwaters at usinternet.com (Dan Waters) Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2008 11:27:15 -0600 Subject: [AccessD] Print settings problems with 2003. In-Reply-To: <03b001c873e1$4ab30060$8abea8c0@XPS> References: <038501c873d8$2ae2dca0$8abea8c0@XPS><000b01c873da$9cc30370$0300a8c0@danwaters> <03b001c873e1$4ab30060$8abea8c0@XPS> Message-ID: <000c01c873e5$d6604ec0$0300a8c0@danwaters> I recently had a customer who reported a chart report was being cut off on the right margin - in Preview and on Print. This was consistent for him. But a person he worked with did not have that problem with the same report printed or previewed at the same time. My response was to have IT look at his laptop and update the printer drivers. I haven't heard back so I am assuming that he can now print the reports correctly. Best of luck, Dan -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim Dettman Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2008 10:55 AM To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' Subject: Re: [AccessD] Print settings problems with 2003. Dan, Not all. Most are set to "Use Default", but even in the cases where a report was set to a specific printer, the same thing has happened. It was first noticed in a label program. 4 x 6 labels created for landscape started printing out in portrait mode. This was even with the exact same printer and driver setup on the new box (there was no warning that the report was being formatted for another printer when opened). I also tried running some code using the application.printer object to grab defaults and then update the reports. Got a lot of weird errors out of that (ie. could not set margins without an error, device name in the report would end up blank, etc). process and have resorted to changing everything by hand. JimD. -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Dan Waters Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2008 11:07 AM To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' Subject: Re: [AccessD] Print settings problems with 2003. Jim, Were the reports previously set to use a specific printer, which no longer exists? Dan -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim Dettman Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2008 9:49 AM To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' Subject: [AccessD] Print settings problems with 2003. All, Just moved a client from Phoenix to Ohio and in the process am now running their apps under Access 2003, SP3. Originally they were running under A2000. I left all the databases in 2000 format. I'm seeing a variety of printing issues, but it boils down to margins and orientation are getting messed up when a report opens. I've already turned off Auto Correct and that didn't fix it. Anyone have any ideas? This is rather urgent as things are starting to come to a standstill and it's turning into a major mess. Thanks, Jim. -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From Gustav at cactus.dk Wed Feb 20 11:32:21 2008 From: Gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock) Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2008 18:32:21 +0100 Subject: [AccessD] Print settings problems with 2003. Message-ID: Hi Jim We've seen similar issues, though with Access 97, when an app runs in WinXP. I think we had some threads about this years ago. Our findings have been, that if the printer settings in the Registry of Windows are not _completely_ identical - which they never are between two sites - Access will, when the app launches the first time at the client, "readjust to the "new" environment and possibly ruin the delicate printer settings of your reports. This did not happen when OS was WinNT or 98. After much trial and error we gave up and installed at the client a remote control (RealVNC or just VNC) on a superuser's workstation and a full version of Access. Whenever a revised version of the app was deployed, we installed it on this machine only, opened one by one all reports in design mode, readjusted printer settings as needed, and saved. Then that copy of the front end mdb file was saved as a "site master" and copied to the remaining workstations. Not very fancy but it works. Note too, that even if the physical printer is the same, printer driver or printer settings (say, Postscript or PCL) and ports are rarely identical. /gustav >>> jimdettman at verizon.net 20-02-2008 17:54 >>> Dan, Not all. Most are set to "Use Default", but even in the cases where a report was set to a specific printer, the same thing has happened. It was first noticed in a label program. 4 x 6 labels created for landscape started printing out in portrait mode. This was even with the exact same printer and driver setup on the new box (there was no warning that the report was being formatted for another printer when opened). I also tried running some code using the application.printer object to grab defaults and then update the reports. Got a lot of weird errors out of that (ie. could not set margins without an error, device name in the report would end up blank, etc). process and have resorted to changing everything by hand. JimD. -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Dan Waters Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2008 11:07 AM To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' Subject: Re: [AccessD] Print settings problems with 2003. Jim, Were the reports previously set to use a specific printer, which no longer exists? Dan -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim Dettman Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2008 9:49 AM To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' Subject: [AccessD] Print settings problems with 2003. All, Just moved a client from Phoenix to Ohio and in the process am now running their apps under Access 2003, SP3. Originally they were running under A2000. I left all the databases in 2000 format. I'm seeing a variety of printing issues, but it boils down to margins and orientation are getting messed up when a report opens. I've already turned off Auto Correct and that didn't fix it. Anyone have any ideas? This is rather urgent as things are starting to come to a standstill and it's turning into a major mess. Thanks, Jim. From zora_db at yahoo.com Wed Feb 20 12:14:48 2008 From: zora_db at yahoo.com (Roz Clarke) Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2008 10:14:48 -0800 (PST) Subject: [AccessD] OT: Word Message-ID: <247414.83686.qm@web50101.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Thanks Max, and Susan. Chris, will you bail me out when I get caught? ----- Original Message ---- From: Max Wanadoo To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving Sent: Wednesday, 20 February, 2008 12:45:16 PM Subject: Re: [AccessD] OT: Word Not a List, but some links: VBA http://www.jojo-zawawi.com/code-samples-pages/code-samples.htm http://visualbasic.about.com/library/weekly/aa021503a.htm TIPS http://wordtips.vitalnews.com/ http://malektips.com/microsoft_word_help_and_tips.html http://www.gmayor.com/Word_pages.htm Max -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of rosalyn.clarke at barclays.com Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2008 9:54 AM To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: [AccessD] OT: Word Hi guys It looks like I will be doing more with pesky malfunctioning Word templates than with Access databases on this job. Can anyone recommend a good Word discussion list? TIA Roz -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com ___________________________________________________________ Support the World Aids Awareness campaign this month with Yahoo! For Good http://uk.promotions.yahoo.com/forgood/ From carbonnb at gmail.com Wed Feb 20 12:52:45 2008 From: carbonnb at gmail.com (Bryan Carbonnell) Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2008 13:52:45 -0500 Subject: [AccessD] OT: Word In-Reply-To: <0F978DF74B416B44A351B9143EB0FD330236CD8A@MUKPBCC1XMB0103.collab.barclayscorp.com> References: <0F978DF74B416B44A351B9143EB0FD330236CD8A@MUKPBCC1XMB0103.collab.barclayscorp.com> Message-ID: On Wed, Feb 20, 2008 at 4:54 AM, wrote: > Hi guys > > It looks like I will be doing more with pesky malfunctioning Word templates > than with Access databases on this job. Can anyone recommend a good Word > discussion list? http://lists.dcomp.com/mailman/listinfo/word is where I hang my Word hat. It's quiet compared to AccessD standards, but when there is a questions, you will get an answer. Simple to complex. Answers are all there. -- Bryan Carbonnell - carbonnb at gmail.com Life's journey is not to arrive at the grave safely in a well preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, totally worn out, shouting "What a great ride!" From ebarro at verizon.net Wed Feb 20 18:56:36 2008 From: ebarro at verizon.net (Eric Barro) Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2008 16:56:36 -0800 Subject: [AccessD] OT: Word In-Reply-To: <7303A459C921B5499AF732CCEEAD2B7F064D13C0@craws161660.int.rdel.co.uk> Message-ID: <0JWK00A6ACQSZ7D3@vms173001.mailsrvcs.net> That won't pass the syntax test Chris... :) DELETE FROM tblOutstandingOverdrafts WHERE fldCustomer = 'Chris Foote' Is more like it... -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Foote, Chris Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2008 2:09 AM To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' Subject: Re: [AccessD] OT: Word You have my utmost sympathy Roz ;-) BTW - any chance of running the SQL command DELETE * FROM tblOutstandingOverdrafts WHERE fldCustomer="Chris Foote" Regards! Chris F > -----Original Message----- > From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of > rosalyn.clarke at barclays.com > Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2008 9:54 AM > To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com > Subject: [AccessD] OT: Word > > > Hi guys > > It looks like I will be doing more with pesky malfunctioning Word > templates than with Access databases on this job. Can anyone recommend > a good Word discussion list? > > TIA > > Roz > > > This e-mail and any attachments are confidential and intended solely > for the addressee and may also be privileged or exempt from disclosure > under applicable law. 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Replies to this e-mail may be monitored by the Barclays Group > for operational or business reasons. > > Any opinion or other information in this e-mail or its attachments > that does not relate to the business of the Barclays Group is personal > to the sender and is not given or endorsed by the Barclays Group. > > Barclays Bank PLC.Registered in England and Wales (registered no. > 1026167). > Registered Office: 1 Churchill Place, London, E14 5HP, United Kingdom. > > Barclays Bank PLC is authorised and regulated by the Financial > Services Authority. > -- > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From joe at anamericanjoe.us Wed Feb 20 22:42:40 2008 From: joe at anamericanjoe.us (Joe Hecht) Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2008 20:42:40 -0800 Subject: [AccessD] Report Subreport Problem X posted Message-ID: <001101c87444$3187f150$6401a8c0@ACER2G> Hi gang. Back for a few for some help please. I am working on a report that for each product in an order will make a list of what pieces need to packed and how many of them. I think my queries good. qryPackListBuild1 SELECT tblNewOrders.OrderID, tblNewOrders.txtQBInvoice, tblNewOrders.txtOrderBy, tblNewOrders.txtShipTo, stblOrderDetail.cboSorderOurPartName, stblOrderDetail.txtsorderQuantity FROM tblNewOrders LEFT JOIN stblOrderDetail ON tblNewOrders.OrderID = stblOrderDetail.txtFKOrderID; qryPackListBuild2 SELECT qryPackListBuild1.OrderID, qryPackListBuild1.txtQBInvoice, qryPackListBuild1.txtOrderBy, qryPackListBuild1.txtShipTo, qryPackListBuild1.cboSorderOurPartName, qryPackListBuild1.txtsorderQuantity, tblOurParts.txtOurDesc, stblOurParts.txtPieceCode, stblOurParts.txtPieceDesc, stblOurParts.txtPieceQuantity FROM (tblOurParts INNER JOIN qryPackListBuild1 ON tblOurParts.cboOurPartName = qryPackListBuild1.cboSorderOurPartName) INNER JOIN stblOurParts ON tblOurParts.txtOurPartID = stblOurParts.txtOurPartID; When I try to print (preview the report), it lists all the pieces for all the products. I want it to list product 1 and all the pieces to complete the order for product 1. and then a new group for each additional product in that order. I have tried using the grouping but not gotten the results I want. Any one have an idea? TIA Joe Hecht Joe at anamericanjoe.us From max.wanadoo at gmail.com Thu Feb 21 01:35:28 2008 From: max.wanadoo at gmail.com (Max Wanadoo) Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2008 07:35:28 -0000 Subject: [AccessD] Report Subreport Problem X posted In-Reply-To: <001101c87444$3187f150$6401a8c0@ACER2G> References: <001101c87444$3187f150$6401a8c0@ACER2G> Message-ID: <001501c8745c$5586f3e0$8119fea9@LTVM> Joe, Just use the Report Wizard. It is excellent for this type of report. Max -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Joe Hecht Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2008 4:43 AM To: accessD at databaseadvisors.com Subject: [AccessD] Report Subreport Problem X posted Hi gang. Back for a few for some help please. I am working on a report that for each product in an order will make a list of what pieces need to packed and how many of them. I think my queries good. qryPackListBuild1 SELECT tblNewOrders.OrderID, tblNewOrders.txtQBInvoice, tblNewOrders.txtOrderBy, tblNewOrders.txtShipTo, stblOrderDetail.cboSorderOurPartName, stblOrderDetail.txtsorderQuantity FROM tblNewOrders LEFT JOIN stblOrderDetail ON tblNewOrders.OrderID = stblOrderDetail.txtFKOrderID; qryPackListBuild2 SELECT qryPackListBuild1.OrderID, qryPackListBuild1.txtQBInvoice, qryPackListBuild1.txtOrderBy, qryPackListBuild1.txtShipTo, qryPackListBuild1.cboSorderOurPartName, qryPackListBuild1.txtsorderQuantity, tblOurParts.txtOurDesc, stblOurParts.txtPieceCode, stblOurParts.txtPieceDesc, stblOurParts.txtPieceQuantity FROM (tblOurParts INNER JOIN qryPackListBuild1 ON tblOurParts.cboOurPartName = qryPackListBuild1.cboSorderOurPartName) INNER JOIN stblOurParts ON tblOurParts.txtOurPartID = stblOurParts.txtOurPartID; When I try to print (preview the report), it lists all the pieces for all the products. I want it to list product 1 and all the pieces to complete the order for product 1. and then a new group for each additional product in that order. I have tried using the grouping but not gotten the results I want. Any one have an idea? TIA Joe Hecht Joe at anamericanjoe.us -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From max.wanadoo at gmail.com Thu Feb 21 01:41:01 2008 From: max.wanadoo at gmail.com (Max Wanadoo) Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2008 07:41:01 -0000 Subject: [AccessD] OT: Word In-Reply-To: <0JWK00A6ACQSZ7D3@vms173001.mailsrvcs.net> References: <7303A459C921B5499AF732CCEEAD2B7F064D13C0@craws161660.int.rdel.co.uk> <0JWK00A6ACQSZ7D3@vms173001.mailsrvcs.net> Message-ID: <001601c8745d$1c15cb30$8119fea9@LTVM> Well it worked for me! I ran it on my system and when I check afterwards there were no outstanding overdrafts for Chris Foote, so it must have worked! Max -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Eric Barro Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2008 12:57 AM To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' Subject: Re: [AccessD] OT: Word That won't pass the syntax test Chris... :) DELETE FROM tblOutstandingOverdrafts WHERE fldCustomer = 'Chris Foote' Is more like it... -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Foote, Chris Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2008 2:09 AM To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' Subject: Re: [AccessD] OT: Word You have my utmost sympathy Roz ;-) BTW - any chance of running the SQL command DELETE * FROM tblOutstandingOverdrafts WHERE fldCustomer="Chris Foote" Regards! Chris F > -----Original Message----- > From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of > rosalyn.clarke at barclays.com > Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2008 9:54 AM > To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com > Subject: [AccessD] OT: Word > > > Hi guys > > It looks like I will be doing more with pesky malfunctioning Word > templates than with Access databases on this job. Can anyone recommend > a good Word discussion list? > > TIA > > Roz > > > This e-mail and any attachments are confidential and intended solely > for the addressee and may also be privileged or exempt from disclosure > under applicable law. 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Can anyone > recommend a good Word discussion list? http://lists.dcomp.com/mailman/listinfo/word is where I hang my Word hat. It's quiet compared to AccessD standards, but when there is a questions, you will get an answer. Simple to complex. Answers are all there. -- Bryan Carbonnell - carbonnb at gmail.com Life's journey is not to arrive at the grave safely in a well preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, totally worn out, shouting "What a great ride!" -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com This e-mail and any attachments are confidential and intended solely for the addressee and may also be privileged or exempt from disclosure under applicable law. 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Barclays Bank PLC is authorised and regulated by the Financial Services Authority. From Erwin.Craps at ithelps.eu Thu Feb 21 03:48:24 2008 From: Erwin.Craps at ithelps.eu (Erwin Craps - IT Helps) Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2008 10:48:24 +0100 Subject: [AccessD] Vista SP1 References: <001d01c8723a$630c01a0$0301a8c0@HAL9005><015d01c8723e$91c58940$0401a8c0@M90><006901c87252$e0a91040$a1fb30c0$@rr.com><200802192152932.SM07032@IBMT43p.cwgsy.net> <430E80531228BA4497C5EB1A7BA786B02771C5@stekelbes.ithelps.local> Message-ID: <430E80531228BA4497C5EB1A7BA786B02771D4@stekelbes.ithelps.local> Oh no.... I being punished for what I said yesterday.... I have a brand new HP laptop here, clients specifically demands for a English windows Yesterday I finished the Vista installation and windows update. And you know what? Today I notice that laptop keeps resetting all the time when booting :-( I read this morning on ZDnet that Microsoft removed the SP1 update, but apparently after I downloaded it!!! Erwin -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Erwin Craps - IT Helps Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2008 11:06 PM To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving Subject: Re: [AccessD] Vista SP1 Ahhhh Some times, like this time, I'm glad that the international (major) updates take 1 to 3 month longer to be available than the us English version... Thx for sharing. -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Ralph Bryce Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2008 10:53 PM To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving Subject: Re: [AccessD] Vista SP1 Jurgen, This Technet forum discusses: http://forums.microsoft.com/TechNet/showpost.aspx?postid=2848906&siteid=17 Many people affected...looks like a system restore... Ralph Bryce At 18:40 19/02/2008, you wrote: >Hmm. 4 days ago my Vista Acer 9300 play machine >choked on some update and now it won't >boot. Says it doing something with update 3 of >3, 0% done, don't power down, and then reboots >to the same point in an infinite loop. Can't >find a system restore point either. I had to >pull the drive to put it in an enclosure so I >could get my data off. I'll see if the restore partition is OK next weekend. : : >I'm not sure that is was the Vista SP1 udpate >that killed my machine, but the 4 days ago timing is an exact fit. >Ciao >J?rgen Welz -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From Gustav at cactus.dk Thu Feb 21 03:53:40 2008 From: Gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock) Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2008 10:53:40 +0100 Subject: [AccessD] Vista SP1 Message-ID: Hi Erwin What more to say than: Happy reinstall! /gustav >>> Erwin.Craps at ithelps.eu 21-02-2008 10:48 >>> Oh no.... I being punished for what I said yesterday.... I have a brand new HP laptop here, clients specifically demands for a English windows Yesterday I finished the Vista installation and windows update. And you know what? Today I notice that laptop keeps resetting all the time when booting :-( I read this morning on ZDnet that Microsoft removed the SP1 update, but apparently after I downloaded it!!! Erwin From Erwin.Craps at ithelps.eu Thu Feb 21 04:25:42 2008 From: Erwin.Craps at ithelps.eu (Erwin Craps - IT Helps) Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2008 11:25:42 +0100 Subject: [AccessD] Vista SP1 References: Message-ID: <430E80531228BA4497C5EB1A7BA786B02771D9@stekelbes.ithelps.local> I don't think so... Boot with Bart's PE, Change security on "System Volume Information folder" Recuperate previous "software" and "system" registry files Rename current "software" and "system" registry files in windows\system32\config folder Copy the recuperated ones in the windows\system32\config folder Reboot from disk and update again (without SP1) Erwin -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gustav Brock Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2008 10:54 AM To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: Re: [AccessD] Vista SP1 Hi Erwin What more to say than: Happy reinstall! /gustav >>> Erwin.Craps at ithelps.eu 21-02-2008 10:48 >>> Oh no.... I being punished for what I said yesterday.... I have a brand new HP laptop here, clients specifically demands for a English windows Yesterday I finished the Vista installation and windows update. And you know what? Today I notice that laptop keeps resetting all the time when booting :-( I read this morning on ZDnet that Microsoft removed the SP1 update, but apparently after I downloaded it!!! Erwin -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From Gustav at cactus.dk Thu Feb 21 04:39:10 2008 From: Gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock) Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2008 11:39:10 +0100 Subject: [AccessD] Vista SP1 Message-ID: Hi Erwin Interesting. Let us know if you succeed. /gustav >>> Erwin.Craps at ithelps.eu 21-02-2008 11:25 >>> I don't think so... Boot with Bart's PE, Change security on "System Volume Information folder" Recuperate previous "software" and "system" registry files Rename current "software" and "system" registry files in windows\system32\config folder Copy the recuperated ones in the windows\system32\config folder Reboot from disk and update again (without SP1) Erwin -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gustav Brock Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2008 10:54 AM To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: Re: [AccessD] Vista SP1 Hi Erwin What more to say than: Happy reinstall! /gustav >>> Erwin.Craps at ithelps.eu 21-02-2008 10:48 >>> Oh no.... I being punished for what I said yesterday.... I have a brand new HP laptop here, clients specifically demands for a English windows Yesterday I finished the Vista installation and windows update. And you know what? Today I notice that laptop keeps resetting all the time when booting :-( I read this morning on ZDnet that Microsoft removed the SP1 update, but apparently after I downloaded it!!! Erwin From dwaters at usinternet.com Thu Feb 21 10:26:49 2008 From: dwaters at usinternet.com (Dan Waters) Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2008 10:26:49 -0600 Subject: [AccessD] Change Reference on Startup? Message-ID: <000d01c874a6$8f7805e0$0300a8c0@danwaters> I have a library file (Library.mdb) which is referenced by my main application (Main.mdb). When the application opens, code in a startup form will run. What I need to do is change, on startup, the reference path in Main.mdb of Library.mdb from a location on the server to the same location as Main.mdb (C:\PSSystemClient\FE). Main.mdb uses code from Library.mdb everywhere, so I don't think that late binding would be practical. Thanks for any help! Dan From wdhindman at dejpolsystems.com Thu Feb 21 10:47:24 2008 From: wdhindman at dejpolsystems.com (William Hindman) Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2008 11:47:24 -0500 Subject: [AccessD] ...ok, it isn't quite Friday ...but :) References: <000d01c874a6$8f7805e0$0300a8c0@danwaters> Message-ID: <001601c874a9$6ffc9b60$d67e6c4c@jisshowsbs.local> http://on10.net/blogs/tina/Life-At-Microsoft/ William From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com Thu Feb 21 12:28:36 2008 From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (jwcolby) Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2008 13:28:36 -0500 Subject: [AccessD] Word constant list for VBA Message-ID: <023901c874b7$933ced60$0401a8c0@M90> Does anyone have a good reference or better yet a module of word constants for use in VBA? I need things like const wdSaveChanges = SomeValue const wdPromptToSaveChanges = someothervalue etc John W. Colby Colby Consulting www.ColbyConsulting.com From Lambert.Heenan at AIG.com Thu Feb 21 12:45:04 2008 From: Lambert.Heenan at AIG.com (Heenan, Lambert) Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2008 12:45:04 -0600 Subject: [AccessD] Word constant list for VBA Message-ID: <34C8A2AB1EF3564CB0D64DB6AFFDD5C208ED7B09@XLIVMBX35bkup.aig.com> OMG!!!! I find it hard to believe, and even harder to promote, but this information is in... ... ... ... ... ... the On-Line Help!!!!!! Open any module and hit the F1 key. When good old (?) OLH appears click the Contents tab and right there at the very top is a section entitled "Constants" HTH Lambert :-) -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of jwcolby Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2008 1:29 PM To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' Subject: [AccessD] Word constant list for VBA Does anyone have a good reference or better yet a module of word constants for use in VBA? I need things like const wdSaveChanges = SomeValue const wdPromptToSaveChanges = someothervalue etc John W. Colby Colby Consulting www.ColbyConsulting.com -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From dw-murphy at cox.net Thu Feb 21 12:51:24 2008 From: dw-murphy at cox.net (Doug Murphy) Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2008 10:51:24 -0800 Subject: [AccessD] How do you close report in print preview mode in Access 2007 In-Reply-To: <001601c874a9$6ffc9b60$d67e6c4c@jisshowsbs.local> Message-ID: <004701c874ba$c1e94b10$0200a8c0@murphy3234aaf1> Against my best recommendation a client has moved to Access 2007 so I am forced to use it for their projects. My productivity has gone down the drain, but I am getting there. One thing I can't figure out is how to close a report in print preview mode with the ribbon bar collapsed. In the options settings for the current database I have the Document Windows options set to Overlapping Windows to turn of the Tabbed document display. I want the user to close objects, not just select the tabs to navigate around. When the database is set this way and a report is displayed in print preview mode there is no X to close with and I can't figure out how to create a little custom tool bar or menu bar as I did in previous versions to print or close the report. I am sure there must be an easy way to do it, but help isn't very helpful. Any suggestions, aside from going back to Access 2003 would be welcome. Thanks Doug From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com Thu Feb 21 13:33:40 2008 From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (jwcolby) Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2008 14:33:40 -0500 Subject: [AccessD] Word constant list for VBA In-Reply-To: <34C8A2AB1EF3564CB0D64DB6AFFDD5C208ED7B09@XLIVMBX35bkup.aig.com> References: <34C8A2AB1EF3564CB0D64DB6AFFDD5C208ED7B09@XLIVMBX35bkup.aig.com> Message-ID: <023e01c874c0$aa426540$0401a8c0@M90> Well, it is indeed in the help but you have to be in whatever application you are working with. So for example if you are programming in VBA in Access, these constants for WORD do not show up. Even if they did, I can't just use the constant because they are part of the library for that object lib. I do not reference Word directly because of version differences on the user's workstations. So I do early binding when I do development, but late binding when I deliver the application. As a result, the constants can "just be used" if I am using early binding but break when I switch to late binding. Therefore... I need a module of these things and there are THOUSANDS of them for each object library, for example word has thousands of constants, Excel has thousands etc. I though perhaps someone could point me to a Word constant module where all these things were defined and I could just drop that module into my code. I spend lots of time today just looking up the specific values for the handful of specific constants that I needed. John W. Colby Colby Consulting www.ColbyConsulting.com -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Heenan, Lambert Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2008 1:45 PM To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' Subject: Re: [AccessD] Word constant list for VBA OMG!!!! I find it hard to believe, and even harder to promote, but this information is in... ... ... ... ... ... the On-Line Help!!!!!! Open any module and hit the F1 key. When good old (?) OLH appears click the Contents tab and right there at the very top is a section entitled "Constants" HTH Lambert :-) -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of jwcolby Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2008 1:29 PM To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' Subject: [AccessD] Word constant list for VBA Does anyone have a good reference or better yet a module of word constants for use in VBA? I need things like const wdSaveChanges = SomeValue const wdPromptToSaveChanges = someothervalue etc John W. Colby Colby Consulting www.ColbyConsulting.com -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com Thu Feb 21 13:34:57 2008 From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (jwcolby) Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2008 14:34:57 -0500 Subject: [AccessD] How do you close report in print preview mode in Access2007 In-Reply-To: <004701c874ba$c1e94b10$0200a8c0@murphy3234aaf1> References: <001601c874a9$6ffc9b60$d67e6c4c@jisshowsbs.local> <004701c874ba$c1e94b10$0200a8c0@murphy3234aaf1> Message-ID: <023f01c874c0$d80afa00$0401a8c0@M90> Since we charge by the hour... productivity loss = more hours = more $ for the same work. ;-) John W. Colby Colby Consulting www.ColbyConsulting.com -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Doug Murphy Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2008 1:51 PM To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' Subject: [AccessD] How do you close report in print preview mode in Access2007 Against my best recommendation a client has moved to Access 2007 so I am forced to use it for their projects. My productivity has gone down the drain, but I am getting there. One thing I can't figure out is how to close a report in print preview mode with the ribbon bar collapsed. In the options settings for the current database I have the Document Windows options set to Overlapping Windows to turn of the Tabbed document display. I want the user to close objects, not just select the tabs to navigate around. When the database is set this way and a report is displayed in print preview mode there is no X to close with and I can't figure out how to create a little custom tool bar or menu bar as I did in previous versions to print or close the report. I am sure there must be an easy way to do it, but help isn't very helpful. Any suggestions, aside from going back to Access 2003 would be welcome. Thanks Doug -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From dw-murphy at cox.net Thu Feb 21 13:46:11 2008 From: dw-murphy at cox.net (Doug Murphy) Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2008 11:46:11 -0800 Subject: [AccessD] How do you close report in print preview mode inAccess2007 In-Reply-To: <023f01c874c0$d80afa00$0401a8c0@M90> Message-ID: <005101c874c2$68d3d650$0200a8c0@murphy3234aaf1> Hmmm! Wish it worked that way. I can't believe the amount of time I have wasted on this just trying to figure out how to do things that are second nature in Access 2003. -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of jwcolby Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2008 11:35 AM To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' Subject: Re: [AccessD] How do you close report in print preview mode inAccess2007 Since we charge by the hour... productivity loss = more hours = more $ for the same work. ;-) John W. Colby Colby Consulting www.ColbyConsulting.com -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Doug Murphy Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2008 1:51 PM To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' Subject: [AccessD] How do you close report in print preview mode in Access2007 Against my best recommendation a client has moved to Access 2007 so I am forced to use it for their projects. My productivity has gone down the drain, but I am getting there. One thing I can't figure out is how to close a report in print preview mode with the ribbon bar collapsed. In the options settings for the current database I have the Document Windows options set to Overlapping Windows to turn of the Tabbed document display. I want the user to close objects, not just select the tabs to navigate around. When the database is set this way and a report is displayed in print preview mode there is no X to close with and I can't figure out how to create a little custom tool bar or menu bar as I did in previous versions to print or close the report. I am sure there must be an easy way to do it, but help isn't very helpful. Any suggestions, aside from going back to Access 2003 would be welcome. Thanks Doug -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From Donald.A.McGillivray at sprint.com Thu Feb 21 13:58:50 2008 From: Donald.A.McGillivray at sprint.com (McGillivray, Don [IT]) Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2008 13:58:50 -0600 Subject: [AccessD] How do you close report in print preview mode in Access 2007 In-Reply-To: <004701c874ba$c1e94b10$0200a8c0@murphy3234aaf1> References: <001601c874a9$6ffc9b60$d67e6c4c@jisshowsbs.local> <004701c874ba$c1e94b10$0200a8c0@murphy3234aaf1> Message-ID: <310215F6BEEEA84A8D6366F219C76331376F4FA13A@PDAWM07C.ad.sprint.com> I don't have or use Access 2007, but the escape key closes report previews in previous versions. If 2007 has retained that feature, maybe you can "retrain" the clients - it was their idea to switch after all . . . -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Doug Murphy Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2008 10:51 AM To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' Subject: [AccessD] How do you close report in print preview mode in Access 2007 Against my best recommendation a client has moved to Access 2007 so I am forced to use it for their projects. My productivity has gone down the drain, but I am getting there. One thing I can't figure out is how to close a report in print preview mode with the ribbon bar collapsed. In the options settings for the current database I have the Document Windows options set to Overlapping Windows to turn of the Tabbed document display. I want the user to close objects, not just select the tabs to navigate around. When the database is set this way and a report is displayed in print preview mode there is no X to close with and I can't figure out how to create a little custom tool bar or menu bar as I did in previous versions to print or close the report. I am sure there must be an easy way to do it, but help isn't very helpful. Any suggestions, aside from going back to Access 2003 would be welcome. Thanks Doug -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From rockysmolin at bchacc.com Thu Feb 21 14:13:26 2008 From: rockysmolin at bchacc.com (Rocky Smolin at Beach Access Software) Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2008 12:13:26 -0800 Subject: [AccessD] FW: How do you close report in print preview modeinAccess2007 Message-ID: <01c901c874c6$37ff1630$0301a8c0@HAL9005> -----Original Message----- From: Jack Stone [mailto:jack.stone at solidcounsel.com] Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2008 12:10 PM To: Rocky Smolin at Beach Access Software Subject: RE: How do you close report in print preview modeinAccess2007 I just right click on the report, and then click Close. --Jack -----Original Message----- From: Rocky Smolin at Beach Access Software [mailto:rockysmolin at bchacc.com] Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2008 2:07 PM To: Jack Stone Subject: FW: How do you close report in print preview modeinAccess2007 FYI -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Doug Murphy Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2008 11:46 AM To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' Subject: Re: [AccessD] How do you close report in print preview modeinAccess2007 Hmmm! Wish it worked that way. I can't believe the amount of time I have wasted on this just trying to figure out how to do things that are second nature in Access 2003. -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of jwcolby Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2008 11:35 AM To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' Subject: Re: [AccessD] How do you close report in print preview mode inAccess2007 Since we charge by the hour... productivity loss = more hours = more $ for the same work. ;-) John W. Colby Colby Consulting www.ColbyConsulting.com -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Doug Murphy Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2008 1:51 PM To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' Subject: [AccessD] How do you close report in print preview mode in Access2007 Against my best recommendation a client has moved to Access 2007 so I am forced to use it for their projects. My productivity has gone down the drain, but I am getting there. One thing I can't figure out is how to close a report in print preview mode with the ribbon bar collapsed. In the options settings for the current database I have the Document Windows options set to Overlapping Windows to turn of the Tabbed document display. I want the user to close objects, not just select the tabs to navigate around. When the database is set this way and a report is displayed in print preview mode there is no X to close with and I can't figure out how to create a little custom tool bar or menu bar as I did in previous versions to print or close the report. I am sure there must be an easy way to do it, but help isn't very helpful. Any suggestions, aside from going back to Access 2003 would be welcome. Thanks Doug -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.20.9/1290 - Release Date: 2/20/2008 8:45 PM No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.20.9/1290 - Release Date: 2/20/2008 8:45 PM From dw-murphy at cox.net Thu Feb 21 14:14:37 2008 From: dw-murphy at cox.net (Doug Murphy) Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2008 12:14:37 -0800 Subject: [AccessD] How do you close report in print preview mode in Access 2007 In-Reply-To: <310215F6BEEEA84A8D6366F219C76331376F4FA13A@PDAWM07C.ad.sprint.com> Message-ID: <005401c874c6$621c5630$0200a8c0@murphy3234aaf1> Thanks Don, I was hoping to make it pretty intuitive so each user wouldn't have to be trained. You can also right click and close from the shortcut menu, but a visible menu item would be the best. -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of McGillivray, Don [IT] Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2008 11:59 AM To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving Subject: Re: [AccessD] How do you close report in print preview mode in Access 2007 I don't have or use Access 2007, but the escape key closes report previews in previous versions. If 2007 has retained that feature, maybe you can "retrain" the clients - it was their idea to switch after all . . . -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Doug Murphy Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2008 10:51 AM To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' Subject: [AccessD] How do you close report in print preview mode in Access 2007 Against my best recommendation a client has moved to Access 2007 so I am forced to use it for their projects. My productivity has gone down the drain, but I am getting there. One thing I can't figure out is how to close a report in print preview mode with the ribbon bar collapsed. In the options settings for the current database I have the Document Windows options set to Overlapping Windows to turn of the Tabbed document display. I want the user to close objects, not just select the tabs to navigate around. When the database is set this way and a report is displayed in print preview mode there is no X to close with and I can't figure out how to create a little custom tool bar or menu bar as I did in previous versions to print or close the report. I am sure there must be an easy way to do it, but help isn't very helpful. Any suggestions, aside from going back to Access 2003 would be welcome. Thanks Doug -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From cjlabs at worldnet.att.net Thu Feb 21 14:15:23 2008 From: cjlabs at worldnet.att.net (Carolyn Johnson) Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2008 14:15:23 -0600 Subject: [AccessD] How do you close report in print preview mode in Access2007 References: <004701c874ba$c1e94b10$0200a8c0@murphy3234aaf1> Message-ID: <000c01c874c6$7f218930$6401a8c0@XPcomputer> My databases (pre-2007) have a custom tool bar with print commands on it. In Access2007 the toolbar appears when you click Add-Ins at the top of the print preview window. That's the only way I know to close the report - there is no X. Does that help? Carolyn Johnson ----- Original Message ----- From: "Doug Murphy" To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'" Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2008 12:51 PM Subject: [AccessD] How do you close report in print preview mode in Access2007 > Against my best recommendation a client has moved to Access 2007 so I am > forced to use it for their projects. My productivity has gone down the > drain, but I am getting there. > > One thing I can't figure out is how to close a report in print preview > mode > with the ribbon bar collapsed. In the options settings for the current > database I have the Document Windows options set to Overlapping Windows to > turn of the Tabbed document display. I want the user to close objects, > not > just select the tabs to navigate around. When the database is set this > way > and a report is displayed in print preview mode there is no X to close > with > and I can't figure out how to create a little custom tool bar or menu bar > as > I did in previous versions to print or close the report. I am sure there > must be an easy way to do it, but help isn't very helpful. > > Any suggestions, aside from going back to Access 2003 would be welcome. > > Thanks > > Doug > > -- > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From Lambert.Heenan at AIG.com Thu Feb 21 15:56:34 2008 From: Lambert.Heenan at AIG.com (Heenan, Lambert) Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2008 15:56:34 -0600 Subject: [AccessD] Word constant list for VBA Message-ID: <34C8A2AB1EF3564CB0D64DB6AFFDD5C208ED7B11@XLIVMBX35bkup.aig.com> How about here? http://msdn2.microsoft.com/en-us/library/aa211923(office.11).aspx And http://msdn2.microsoft.com/en-us/library/aa172255(office.11).aspx Etc. Lambert -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of jwcolby Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2008 2:34 PM To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' Subject: Re: [AccessD] Word constant list for VBA Well, it is indeed in the help but you have to be in whatever application you are working with. So for example if you are programming in VBA in Access, these constants for WORD do not show up. Even if they did, I can't just use the constant because they are part of the library for that object lib. I do not reference Word directly because of version differences on the user's workstations. So I do early binding when I do development, but late binding when I deliver the application. As a result, the constants can "just be used" if I am using early binding but break when I switch to late binding. Therefore... I need a module of these things and there are THOUSANDS of them for each object library, for example word has thousands of constants, Excel has thousands etc. I though perhaps someone could point me to a Word constant module where all these things were defined and I could just drop that module into my code. I spend lots of time today just looking up the specific values for the handful of specific constants that I needed. John W. Colby Colby Consulting www.ColbyConsulting.com -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Heenan, Lambert Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2008 1:45 PM To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' Subject: Re: [AccessD] Word constant list for VBA OMG!!!! I find it hard to believe, and even harder to promote, but this information is in... ... ... ... ... ... the On-Line Help!!!!!! Open any module and hit the F1 key. When good old (?) OLH appears click the Contents tab and right there at the very top is a section entitled "Constants" HTH Lambert :-) -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of jwcolby Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2008 1:29 PM To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' Subject: [AccessD] Word constant list for VBA Does anyone have a good reference or better yet a module of word constants for use in VBA? I need things like const wdSaveChanges = SomeValue const wdPromptToSaveChanges = someothervalue etc John W. Colby Colby Consulting www.ColbyConsulting.com -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From kp at sdsonline.net Thu Feb 21 16:15:53 2008 From: kp at sdsonline.net (Kath Pelletti) Date: Fri, 22 Feb 2008 09:15:53 +1100 Subject: [AccessD] How do you close report in print preview mode in Access2007 References: <004701c874ba$c1e94b10$0200a8c0@murphy3234aaf1> Message-ID: <006f01c874d7$5379c8e0$6401a8c0@DELLAPTOP> Doug - I have also been struggling with 2007 this year and I found this tool invaluable: http://ribboncustomizer.clatonh.com/Main.aspx I got it from a link sent to the list by Dan (see http://blogs.msdn.com/access/archive/2007/12/05/access-ribbon-customizer.aspx). It is a free download which helps you to quickly create a custom toolbar. It allows you to select commands and it sets up the XML for you......one for reports and a difft. one for your main application might be good for what you are doing? Alternatively you could just customise the quick access toolbar and pop a close button there....I have done that for one client. Right click on the QAT (quick access toolobar, select customise....) That way you could get rid of the ribbon. Or use the tool mentioned above to replace the ribbon with one of your own. I have done both - happy to send more details if you need them but am racing out the door now.... Kath ----- Original Message ----- From: "Doug Murphy" To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'" Sent: Friday, February 22, 2008 5:51 AM Subject: [AccessD] How do you close report in print preview mode in Access2007 > Against my best recommendation a client has moved to Access 2007 so I am > forced to use it for their projects. My productivity has gone down the > drain, but I am getting there. > > One thing I can't figure out is how to close a report in print preview > mode > with the ribbon bar collapsed. In the options settings for the current > database I have the Document Windows options set to Overlapping Windows to > turn of the Tabbed document display. I want the user to close objects, > not > just select the tabs to navigate around. When the database is set this > way > and a report is displayed in print preview mode there is no X to close > with > and I can't figure out how to create a little custom tool bar or menu bar > as > I did in previous versions to print or close the report. I am sure there > must be an easy way to do it, but help isn't very helpful. > > Any suggestions, aside from going back to Access 2003 would be welcome. > > Thanks > > Doug > > -- > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > From dw-murphy at cox.net Thu Feb 21 16:31:30 2008 From: dw-murphy at cox.net (Doug Murphy) Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2008 14:31:30 -0800 Subject: [AccessD] How do you close report in print preview mode inAccess2007 In-Reply-To: <006f01c874d7$5379c8e0$6401a8c0@DELLAPTOP> Message-ID: <007401c874d9$8139e740$0200a8c0@murphy3234aaf1> Thanks Kath, Looks promising. The site seems to be down now, but will keep trying to get the download. -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Kath Pelletti Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2008 2:16 PM To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving Subject: Re: [AccessD] How do you close report in print preview mode inAccess2007 Doug - I have also been struggling with 2007 this year and I found this tool invaluable: http://ribboncustomizer.clatonh.com/Main.aspx I got it from a link sent to the list by Dan (see http://blogs.msdn.com/access/archive/2007/12/05/access-ribbon-customizer.asp x). It is a free download which helps you to quickly create a custom toolbar. It allows you to select commands and it sets up the XML for you......one for reports and a difft. one for your main application might be good for what you are doing? Alternatively you could just customise the quick access toolbar and pop a close button there....I have done that for one client. Right click on the QAT (quick access toolobar, select customise....) That way you could get rid of the ribbon. Or use the tool mentioned above to replace the ribbon with one of your own. I have done both - happy to send more details if you need them but am racing out the door now.... Kath ----- Original Message ----- From: "Doug Murphy" To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'" Sent: Friday, February 22, 2008 5:51 AM Subject: [AccessD] How do you close report in print preview mode in Access2007 > Against my best recommendation a client has moved to Access 2007 so I > am forced to use it for their projects. My productivity has gone down > the drain, but I am getting there. > > One thing I can't figure out is how to close a report in print preview > mode with the ribbon bar collapsed. In the options settings for the > current database I have the Document Windows options set to > Overlapping Windows to turn of the Tabbed document display. I want > the user to close objects, not just select the tabs to navigate > around. When the database is set this way and a report is displayed > in print preview mode there is no X to close with and I can't figure > out how to create a little custom tool bar or menu bar as I did in > previous versions to print or close the report. I am sure there must > be an easy way to do it, but help isn't very helpful. > > Any suggestions, aside from going back to Access 2003 would be welcome. > > Thanks > > Doug > > -- > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From fuller.artful at gmail.com Thu Feb 21 16:42:17 2008 From: fuller.artful at gmail.com (Arthur Fuller) Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2008 17:42:17 -0500 Subject: [AccessD] Word constant list for VBA In-Reply-To: <34C8A2AB1EF3564CB0D64DB6AFFDD5C208ED7B11@XLIVMBX35bkup.aig.com> References: <34C8A2AB1EF3564CB0D64DB6AFFDD5C208ED7B11@XLIVMBX35bkup.aig.com> Message-ID: <29f585dd0802211442m270a19actf58e6d6c3a899411@mail.gmail.com> Wow. I had no idea there were that many. Sheesh! On Thu, Feb 21, 2008 at 4:56 PM, Heenan, Lambert wrote: > How about here? > > http://msdn2.microsoft.com/en-us/library/aa211923(office.11).aspx > > And > http://msdn2.microsoft.com/en-us/library/aa172255(office.11).aspx > > Etc. > > Lambert > > -----Original Message----- > From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of jwcolby > Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2008 2:34 PM > To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' > Subject: Re: [AccessD] Word constant list for VBA > > > Well, it is indeed in the help but you have to be in whatever application > you are working with. So for example if you are programming in VBA in > Access, these constants for WORD do not show up. Even if they did, I > can't > just use the constant because they are part of the library for that object > lib. I do not reference Word directly because of version differences on > the > user's workstations. So I do early binding when I do development, but > late > binding when I deliver the application. > > As a result, the constants can "just be used" if I am using early binding > but break when I switch to late binding. > > Therefore... I need a module of these things and there are THOUSANDS of > them > for each object library, for example word has thousands of constants, > Excel > has thousands etc. > > I though perhaps someone could point me to a Word constant module where > all > these things were defined and I could just drop that module into my code. > I > spend lots of time today just looking up the specific values for the > handful > of specific constants that I needed. > > > John W. Colby > Colby Consulting > www.ColbyConsulting.com > -----Original Message----- > From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Heenan, Lambert > Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2008 1:45 PM > To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' > Subject: Re: [AccessD] Word constant list for VBA > > OMG!!!! I find it hard to believe, and even harder to promote, but this > information is in... > > ... > ... > ... > ... > > ... the On-Line Help!!!!!! > > Open any module and hit the F1 key. When good old (?) OLH appears click > the > Contents tab and right there at the very top is a section entitled > "Constants" > > HTH > > Lambert :-) > > -----Original Message----- > From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of jwcolby > Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2008 1:29 PM > To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' > Subject: [AccessD] Word constant list for VBA > > > Does anyone have a good reference or better yet a module of word constants > for use in VBA? > > I need things like > > const wdSaveChanges = SomeValue > const wdPromptToSaveChanges = someothervalue etc > > John W. Colby > Colby Consulting > www.ColbyConsulting.com > > -- > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > -- > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > -- > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > -- > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > From stuart at lexacorp.com.pg Thu Feb 21 17:08:29 2008 From: stuart at lexacorp.com.pg (Stuart McLachlan) Date: Fri, 22 Feb 2008 09:08:29 +1000 Subject: [AccessD] Word constant list for VBA In-Reply-To: <023901c874b7$933ced60$0401a8c0@M90> References: <023901c874b7$933ced60$0401a8c0@M90> Message-ID: <47BE910D.13.5CC89FB1@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg> I've got a little "Com Browser" utility that comes with PowerBasic "The PowerBASIC COM Browser is an application that exposes the Interfaces, Methods and Properties of COM Objects, as described by type-library files. The PowerBASIC COM Browser serves a dual purpose - to export an Interface Structure of a COM Object for early-binding purposes in your PowerBASIC code, and to provide syntax reference and context-help on the Interface members exposed by a COM Object." I've just run it on my "Microsoft Word 10.0 Object Library 8.2" and extracted the 2674 enumerations to a text file - only a few seconds work. It took another 30 seconds with a good text editor using Find/Replace to turn the whole file into a set of Const Public declarations suitable for use in VBA. I've uploaded it to http://www.lexacorp.com.pg/Misc/WordEnums.zip Enjoy, Stuart On 21 Feb 2008 at 13:28, jwcolby wrote: > Does anyone have a good reference or better yet a module of word constants > for use in VBA? > > I need things like > > const wdSaveChanges = SomeValue > const wdPromptToSaveChanges = someothervalue > etc > > John W. Colby > Colby Consulting > www.ColbyConsulting.com > > -- > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From kp at sdsonline.net Thu Feb 21 18:30:10 2008 From: kp at sdsonline.net (Kath Pelletti) Date: Fri, 22 Feb 2008 11:30:10 +1100 Subject: [AccessD] How do you close report in print preview modeinAccess2007 References: <007401c874d9$8139e740$0200a8c0@murphy3234aaf1> Message-ID: <002001c874ea$15ea3920$6401a8c0@DELLAPTOP> I can fwd to you off list if you like? 4.5 MB setup file.... ----- Original Message ----- From: "Doug Murphy" To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'" Sent: Friday, February 22, 2008 9:31 AM Subject: Re: [AccessD] How do you close report in print preview modeinAccess2007 > Thanks Kath, > > Looks promising. The site seems to be down now, but will keep trying to > get > the download. > > -----Original Message----- > From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Kath Pelletti > Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2008 2:16 PM > To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving > Subject: Re: [AccessD] How do you close report in print preview mode > inAccess2007 > > Doug - I have also been struggling with 2007 this year and I found this > tool > invaluable: > > http://ribboncustomizer.clatonh.com/Main.aspx > > I got it from a link sent to the list by Dan (see > http://blogs.msdn.com/access/archive/2007/12/05/access-ribbon-customizer.asp > x). > > It is a free download which helps you to quickly create a custom toolbar. > It > allows you to select commands and it sets up the XML for you......one for > reports and a difft. one for your main application might be good for what > you are doing? > > Alternatively you could just customise the quick access toolbar and pop a > close button there....I have done that for one client. Right click on the > QAT (quick access toolobar, select customise....) That way you could get > rid > of the ribbon. Or use the tool mentioned above to replace the ribbon with > one of your own. > > I have done both - happy to send more details if you need them but am > racing > out the door now.... > > Kath > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Doug Murphy" > To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'" > > Sent: Friday, February 22, 2008 5:51 AM > Subject: [AccessD] How do you close report in print preview mode in > Access2007 > > >> Against my best recommendation a client has moved to Access 2007 so I >> am forced to use it for their projects. My productivity has gone down >> the drain, but I am getting there. >> >> One thing I can't figure out is how to close a report in print preview >> mode with the ribbon bar collapsed. In the options settings for the >> current database I have the Document Windows options set to >> Overlapping Windows to turn of the Tabbed document display. I want >> the user to close objects, not just select the tabs to navigate >> around. When the database is set this way and a report is displayed >> in print preview mode there is no X to close with and I can't figure >> out how to create a little custom tool bar or menu bar as I did in >> previous versions to print or close the report. I am sure there must >> be an easy way to do it, but help isn't very helpful. >> >> Any suggestions, aside from going back to Access 2003 would be welcome. >> >> Thanks >> >> Doug >> >> -- >> AccessD mailing list >> AccessD at databaseadvisors.com >> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd >> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com >> > > > -- > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > -- > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com Thu Feb 21 20:56:53 2008 From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (jwcolby) Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2008 21:56:53 -0500 Subject: [AccessD] Word constant list for VBA In-Reply-To: <47BE910D.13.5CC89FB1@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg> References: <023901c874b7$933ced60$0401a8c0@M90> <47BE910D.13.5CC89FB1@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg> Message-ID: <024e01c874fe$94964390$0401a8c0@M90> Wow! Now that is service. Thanks Stuart. John W. Colby Colby Consulting www.ColbyConsulting.com -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Stuart McLachlan Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2008 6:08 PM To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving Subject: Re: [AccessD] Word constant list for VBA I've got a little "Com Browser" utility that comes with PowerBasic "The PowerBASIC COM Browser is an application that exposes the Interfaces, Methods and Properties of COM Objects, as described by type-library files. The PowerBASIC COM Browser serves a dual purpose - to export an Interface Structure of a COM Object for early-binding purposes in your PowerBASIC code, and to provide syntax reference and context-help on the Interface members exposed by a COM Object." I've just run it on my "Microsoft Word 10.0 Object Library 8.2" and extracted the 2674 enumerations to a text file - only a few seconds work. It took another 30 seconds with a good text editor using Find/Replace to turn the whole file into a set of Const Public declarations suitable for use in VBA. I've uploaded it to http://www.lexacorp.com.pg/Misc/WordEnums.zip Enjoy, Stuart On 21 Feb 2008 at 13:28, jwcolby wrote: > Does anyone have a good reference or better yet a module of word > constants for use in VBA? > > I need things like > > const wdSaveChanges = SomeValue > const wdPromptToSaveChanges = someothervalue etc > > John W. Colby > Colby Consulting > www.ColbyConsulting.com > > -- > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From dw-murphy at cox.net Thu Feb 21 22:01:34 2008 From: dw-murphy at cox.net (Doug Murphy) Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2008 20:01:34 -0800 Subject: [AccessD] How do you close report in print previewmodeinAccess2007 In-Reply-To: <002001c874ea$15ea3920$6401a8c0@DELLAPTOP> Message-ID: <000601c87507$9d56ee40$0200a8c0@murphy3234aaf1> Got it. Thanks. -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Kath Pelletti Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2008 4:30 PM To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving Subject: Re: [AccessD] How do you close report in print previewmodeinAccess2007 I can fwd to you off list if you like? 4.5 MB setup file.... ----- Original Message ----- From: "Doug Murphy" To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'" Sent: Friday, February 22, 2008 9:31 AM Subject: Re: [AccessD] How do you close report in print preview modeinAccess2007 > Thanks Kath, > > Looks promising. The site seems to be down now, but will keep trying > to get the download. > > -----Original Message----- > From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Kath > Pelletti > Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2008 2:16 PM > To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving > Subject: Re: [AccessD] How do you close report in print preview mode > inAccess2007 > > Doug - I have also been struggling with 2007 this year and I found > this tool > invaluable: > > http://ribboncustomizer.clatonh.com/Main.aspx > > I got it from a link sent to the list by Dan (see > http://blogs.msdn.com/access/archive/2007/12/05/access-ribbon-customiz > er.asp > x). > > It is a free download which helps you to quickly create a custom toolbar. > It > allows you to select commands and it sets up the XML for you......one > for reports and a difft. one for your main application might be good > for what you are doing? > > Alternatively you could just customise the quick access toolbar and > pop a close button there....I have done that for one client. Right > click on the QAT (quick access toolobar, select customise....) That > way you could get rid of the ribbon. Or use the tool mentioned above > to replace the ribbon with one of your own. > > I have done both - happy to send more details if you need them but am > racing out the door now.... > > Kath > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Doug Murphy" > To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'" > > Sent: Friday, February 22, 2008 5:51 AM > Subject: [AccessD] How do you close report in print preview mode in > Access2007 > > >> Against my best recommendation a client has moved to Access 2007 so I >> am forced to use it for their projects. My productivity has gone >> down the drain, but I am getting there. >> >> One thing I can't figure out is how to close a report in print >> preview mode with the ribbon bar collapsed. In the options settings >> for the current database I have the Document Windows options set to >> Overlapping Windows to turn of the Tabbed document display. I want >> the user to close objects, not just select the tabs to navigate >> around. When the database is set this way and a report is displayed >> in print preview mode there is no X to close with and I can't figure >> out how to create a little custom tool bar or menu bar as I did in >> previous versions to print or close the report. I am sure there must >> be an easy way to do it, but help isn't very helpful. >> >> Any suggestions, aside from going back to Access 2003 would be welcome. >> >> Thanks >> >> Doug >> >> -- >> AccessD mailing list >> AccessD at databaseadvisors.com >> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd >> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com >> > > > -- > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > -- > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From Gustav at cactus.dk Fri Feb 22 01:30:07 2008 From: Gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock) Date: Fri, 22 Feb 2008 08:30:07 +0100 Subject: [AccessD] Word constant list for VBA Message-ID: Hi Stuart Very clever! /gustav >>> stuart at lexacorp.com.pg 22-02-2008 00:08 >>> I've got a little "Com Browser" utility that comes with PowerBasic "The PowerBASIC COM Browser is an application that exposes the Interfaces, Methods and Properties of COM Objects, as described by type-library files. The PowerBASIC COM Browser serves a dual purpose - to export an Interface Structure of a COM Object for early-binding purposes in your PowerBASIC code, and to provide syntax reference and context-help on the Interface members exposed by a COM Object." I've just run it on my "Microsoft Word 10.0 Object Library 8.2" and extracted the 2674 enumerations to a text file - only a few seconds work. It took another 30 seconds with a good text editor using Find/Replace to turn the whole file into a set of Const Public declarations suitable for use in VBA. I've uploaded it to http://www.lexacorp.com.pg/Misc/WordEnums.zip Enjoy, Stuart On 21 Feb 2008 at 13:28, jwcolby wrote: > Does anyone have a good reference or better yet a module of word constants > for use in VBA? > > I need things like > > const wdSaveChanges = SomeValue > const wdPromptToSaveChanges = someothervalue > etc > > John W. Colby > Colby Consulting > www.ColbyConsulting.com From cclenright at yahoo.com Fri Feb 22 09:52:06 2008 From: cclenright at yahoo.com (Chris Enright) Date: Fri, 22 Feb 2008 07:52:06 -0800 (PST) Subject: [AccessD] Extract Field Names to Records Message-ID: <834109.14149.qm@web34303.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Hi, I wonder if someone would kindly help me do this? We record employees hours on some system somewhere on the corporate web and we upload it as an Excel Workbook. All the pre-work is done back here in Access 2003 and exported to the workbook. The problem is that if staff changes are made with the present system it requires the changes to be made at both ends and I am trying to automate it to stop errors. For example, the table below is an example of one of the sheets imported back from the web and I want to extract the employee names that are currently fields and put them into a table as records so they can be used in a list box. (If all the fields were turned to records I would just delete the first four so I only had names). Field Name Data Type RowType Text IDWwCoreTask Text CoreTaskName Text Type Text Anstey_Simon Number Buckland_David Number Britton_Pam Number Chaney_Catharine Number Davis_Steph Number Etc. etc. Number I am sure the solution is somewhere in the archives but I have spent days searching them and Google but must be asking the wrong question. Many thanks Chris ____________________________________________________________________________________ Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ From Gustav at cactus.dk Fri Feb 22 10:08:30 2008 From: Gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock) Date: Fri, 22 Feb 2008 17:08:30 +0100 Subject: [AccessD] Extract Field Names to Records Message-ID: Hi Chris Not quite sure if I understand your flow, but why not just link (attach) the WorkSheet (or Named Range) in Access? Then the Excel data appears as a normal table and you can easily fill your ListBox. /gustav >>> cclenright at yahoo.com 22-02-2008 16:52 >>> Hi, I wonder if someone would kindly help me do this? We record employees hours on some system somewhere on the corporate web and we upload it as an Excel Workbook. All the pre-work is done back here in Access 2003 and exported to the workbook. The problem is that if staff changes are made with the present system it requires the changes to be made at both ends and I am trying to automate it to stop errors. For example, the table below is an example of one of the sheets imported back from the web and I want to extract the employee names that are currently fields and put them into a table as records so they can be used in a list box. (If all the fields were turned to records I would just delete the first four so I only had names). Field Name Data Type RowType Text IDWwCoreTask Text CoreTaskName Text Type Text Anstey_Simon Number Buckland_David Number Britton_Pam Number Chaney_Catharine Number Davis_Steph Number Etc. etc. Number I am sure the solution is somewhere in the archives but I have spent days searching them and Google but must be asking the wrong question. Many thanks Chris From markamatte at hotmail.com Fri Feb 22 10:51:27 2008 From: markamatte at hotmail.com (Mark A Matte) Date: Fri, 22 Feb 2008 16:51:27 +0000 Subject: [AccessD] Extract Field Names to Records In-Reply-To: <834109.14149.qm@web34303.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <834109.14149.qm@web34303.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Chris, I think I understand what you are asking. ... I had a db that got its data from a phone switch...unfortuantely the reports (all text files)had headers in weird places and were NOT formatted for import. I imprted the files as fixed length...wrote a few query that would seach for the headers and text that did not belong and delete these rows...since the report was always in the same format...the offending rows all had the offending data in the same columns. The data left I knew was good...and parsed it to the proper table. Am I close? Mark A. Matte > Date: Fri, 22 Feb 2008 07:52:06 -0800 > From: cclenright at yahoo.com > To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com > Subject: [AccessD] Extract Field Names to Records > > Hi, > > I wonder if someone would kindly help me do this? > We record employees hours on some system somewhere on the corporate web and we upload it as an Excel Workbook. > All the pre-work is done back here in Access 2003 and exported to the workbook. > The problem is that if staff changes are made with the present system it requires the changes to be made at both ends and I am trying to automate it to stop errors. > > For example, the table below is an example of one of the sheets imported back from the web and I want to extract the employee names that are currently fields and put them into a table as records so they can be used in a list box. (If all the fields were turned to records I would just delete the first four so I only had names). > > Field Name Data Type > > RowType Text > IDWwCoreTask Text > CoreTaskName Text > Type Text > Anstey_Simon Number > Buckland_David Number > Britton_Pam Number > Chaney_Catharine Number > Davis_Steph Number > Etc. etc. Number > > I am sure the solution is somewhere in the archives but I have spent days searching them and Google but must be asking the wrong question. > > Many thanks > > Chris > > > ____________________________________________________________________________________ > Be a better friend, newshound, and > know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ > -- > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com _________________________________________________________________ Shed those extra pounds with MSN and The Biggest Loser! http://biggestloser.msn.com/ From Gustav at cactus.dk Fri Feb 22 11:33:55 2008 From: Gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock) Date: Fri, 22 Feb 2008 18:33:55 +0100 Subject: [AccessD] Extract Field Names to Records Message-ID: Hi Chris Oh, I see now from Mark what it is about ... But again, link the WorkSheet and open a recordset. Now field names are: For n = 4 To rst.Fields.Count -1 ' build string for ListBox If n > 4 Then strFields = strFields & ";" EndIf strFields = strFields & Chr(34) & rst.Fields(n).Name & Chr(34) Next /gustav >>> Gustav at cactus.dk 22-02-2008 17:08 >>> Hi Chris Not quite sure if I understand your flow, but why not just link (attach) the WorkSheet (or Named Range) in Access? Then the Excel data appears as a normal table and you can easily fill your ListBox. /gustav >>> cclenright at yahoo.com 22-02-2008 16:52 >>> Hi, I wonder if someone would kindly help me do this? We record employees hours on some system somewhere on the corporate web and we upload it as an Excel Workbook. All the pre-work is done back here in Access 2003 and exported to the workbook. The problem is that if staff changes are made with the present system it requires the changes to be made at both ends and I am trying to automate it to stop errors. For example, the table below is an example of one of the sheets imported back from the web and I want to extract the employee names that are currently fields and put them into a table as records so they can be used in a list box. (If all the fields were turned to records I would just delete the first four so I only had names). Field Name Data Type RowType Text IDWwCoreTask Text CoreTaskName Text Type Text Anstey_Simon Number Buckland_David Number Britton_Pam Number Chaney_Catharine Number Davis_Steph Number Etc. etc. Number I am sure the solution is somewhere in the archives but I have spent days searching them and Google but must be asking the wrong question. Many thanks Chris From cclenright at yahoo.com Fri Feb 22 15:57:55 2008 From: cclenright at yahoo.com (Chris Enright) Date: Fri, 22 Feb 2008 13:57:55 -0800 (PST) Subject: [AccessD] Extract Field Names to Records Message-ID: <569255.8296.qm@web34313.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Mark, I believe so! I did smile when I read Gustav's reply that contained the word "easily". Half the time with you guys I don't understand the questions let alone the answers. (Thanks Gustav, and I am still trying it). OK ... Team Leaders are able to got to a website and manually input core times, diverted time, downtimes and resources but it is a long and tedious daily process. I found that the location was able to accept an Excel workbook and also could export it. So I exported the workbook, which has 4 w/sheets, and imported it into Access. So I have 4 tables and I can populate them and export them back to Excel to a workbook that can be uploaded. The workbook has a fixed format. The only thing that changes is the employees. The problem is that the employees are column headers in the workbook and therefore end up as fields when imported to Access. I am trying to find a piece of code that will extract the field names from the table and add them to tblNames under the one field fldNames so I can use them in a list box on a form. Did I make myself totally confusing .. :) lol Chris ----- Original Message ---- From: Mark A Matte To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving Sent: Friday, February 22, 2008 4:51:27 PM Subject: Re: [AccessD] Extract Field Names to Records Chris, I think I understand what you are asking. ... I had a db that got its data from a phone switch...unfortuantely the reports (all text files)had headers in weird places and were NOT formatted for import. I imprted the files as fixed length...wrote a few query that would seach for the headers and text that did not belong and delete these rows...since the report was always in the same format...the offending rows all had the offending data in the same columns. The data left I knew was good...and parsed it to the proper table. Am I close? Mark A. Matte > Date: Fri, 22 Feb 2008 07:52:06 -0800 > From: cclenright at yahoo.com > To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com > Subject: [AccessD] Extract Field Names to Records > > Hi, > > I wonder if someone would kindly help me do this? > We record employees hours on some system somewhere on the corporate web and we upload it as an Excel Workbook. > All the pre-work is done back here in Access 2003 and exported to the workbook. > The problem is that if staff changes are made with the present system it requires the changes to be made at both ends and I am trying to automate it to stop errors. > > For example, the table below is an example of one of the sheets imported back from the web and I want to extract the employee names that are currently fields and put them into a table as records so they can be used in a list box. (If all the fields were turned to records I would just delete the first four so I only had names). > > Field Name Data Type > > RowType Text > IDWwCoreTask Text > CoreTaskName Text > Type Text > Anstey_Simon Number > Buckland_David Number > Britton_Pam Number > Chaney_Catharine Number > Davis_Steph Number > Etc. etc. Number > > I am sure the solution is somewhere in the archives but I have spent days searching them and Google but must be asking the wrong question. > > Many thanks > > Chris > > > ____________________________________________________________________________________ > Be a better friend, newshound, and > know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. 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Search. http://tools.search.yahoo.com/newsearch/category.php?category=shopping From cclenright at yahoo.com Fri Feb 22 16:11:52 2008 From: cclenright at yahoo.com (Chris Enright) Date: Fri, 22 Feb 2008 14:11:52 -0800 (PST) Subject: [AccessD] Extract Field Names to Records Message-ID: <400711.14015.qm@web34302.mail.mud.yahoo.com> ah ha .... there is a dim light at the end of the tunnel (probably my end.. lol) ... I am starting to see how to do it .. :) but why do I have to use the WorkSheet, isn't it possible to extract the fields from one of the tables? Chris ----- Original Message ---- From: Gustav Brock To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Sent: Friday, February 22, 2008 5:33:55 PM Subject: Re: [AccessD] Extract Field Names to Records Hi Chris Oh, I see now from Mark what it is about ... But again, link the WorkSheet and open a recordset. Now field names are: For n = 4 To rst.Fields.Count -1 ' build string for ListBox If n > 4 Then strFields = strFields & ";" EndIf strFields = strFields & Chr(34) & rst.Fields(n).Name & Chr(34) Next /gustav >>> Gustav at cactus.dk 22-02-2008 17:08 >>> Hi Chris Not quite sure if I understand your flow, but why not just link (attach) the WorkSheet (or Named Range) in Access? Then the Excel data appears as a normal table and you can easily fill your ListBox. /gustav >>> cclenright at yahoo.com 22-02-2008 16:52 >>> Hi, I wonder if someone would kindly help me do this? We record employees hours on some system somewhere on the corporate web and we upload it as an Excel Workbook. All the pre-work is done back here in Access 2003 and exported to the workbook. The problem is that if staff changes are made with the present system it requires the changes to be made at both ends and I am trying to automate it to stop errors. For example, the table below is an example of one of the sheets imported back from the web and I want to extract the employee names that are currently fields and put them into a table as records so they can be used in a list box. (If all the fields were turned to records I would just delete the first four so I only had names). Field Name Data Type RowType Text IDWwCoreTask Text CoreTaskName Text Type Text Anstey_Simon Number Buckland_David Number Britton_Pam Number Chaney_Catharine Number Davis_Steph Number Etc. etc. Number I am sure the solution is somewhere in the archives but I have spent days searching them and Google but must be asking the wrong question. Many thanks Chris -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com ____________________________________________________________________________________ Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your home page. http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs From Gustav at cactus.dk Fri Feb 22 16:25:36 2008 From: Gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock) Date: Fri, 22 Feb 2008 23:25:36 +0100 Subject: [AccessD] Extract Field Names to Records Message-ID: Hi Chris Sorry about that "easily" ... But didn't my second suggestion come close? Further, remember that the content of the fields can be referenced by their ID as well: varValue = rst.Fields(n).Value /gustav >>> cclenright at yahoo.com 22-02-2008 22:57 >>> Mark, I believe so! I did smile when I read Gustav's reply that contained the word "easily". Half the time with you guys I don't understand the questions let alone the answers. (Thanks Gustav, and I am still trying it). OK ... Team Leaders are able to got to a website and manually input core times, diverted time, downtimes and resources but it is a long and tedious daily process. I found that the location was able to accept an Excel workbook and also could export it. So I exported the workbook, which has 4 w/sheets, and imported it into Access. So I have 4 tables and I can populate them and export them back to Excel to a workbook that can be uploaded. The workbook has a fixed format. The only thing that changes is the employees. The problem is that the employees are column headers in the workbook and therefore end up as fields when imported to Access. I am trying to find a piece of code that will extract the field names from the table and add them to tblNames under the one field fldNames so I can use them in a list box on a form. Did I make myself totally confusing .. :) lol Chris From Gustav at cactus.dk Fri Feb 22 16:26:59 2008 From: Gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock) Date: Fri, 22 Feb 2008 23:26:59 +0100 Subject: [AccessD] Extract Field Names to Records Message-ID: Hi Chris Of course. But perhaps you could skip the import of the WorkSheet as well. /gustav >>> cclenright at yahoo.com 22-02-2008 23:11 >>> ah ha .... there is a dim light at the end of the tunnel (probably my end.. lol) ... I am starting to see how to do it .. :) but why do I have to use the WorkSheet, isn't it possible to extract the fields from one of the tables? Chris From Gustav at cactus.dk Fri Feb 22 16:41:42 2008 From: Gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock) Date: Fri, 22 Feb 2008 23:41:42 +0100 Subject: [AccessD] OT: Friday non-humour Message-ID: Hi all Today it was a storm here, and a 40m diameter windmill collapsed due to malfunctioning brakes. A neighbour catched it on video (flash player needed): http://nyhederne.tv2.dk/video/index.php/nodeId-10546306.html This happens extremely rarely with modern windmills. No people were hurt. /gustav From accessd at shaw.ca Fri Feb 22 19:28:03 2008 From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence) Date: Fri, 22 Feb 2008 17:28:03 -0800 Subject: [AccessD] OT: Friday non-humour In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: That is real spectacular Gustav. Jim -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gustav Brock Sent: Friday, February 22, 2008 2:42 PM To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: [AccessD] OT: Friday non-humour Hi all Today it was a storm here, and a 40m diameter windmill collapsed due to malfunctioning brakes. A neighbour catched it on video (flash player needed): http://nyhederne.tv2.dk/video/index.php/nodeId-10546306.html This happens extremely rarely with modern windmills. No people were hurt. /gustav -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From fuller.artful at gmail.com Fri Feb 22 19:57:38 2008 From: fuller.artful at gmail.com (Arthur Fuller) Date: Fri, 22 Feb 2008 20:57:38 -0500 Subject: [AccessD] OT: Friday non-humour In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <29f585dd0802221757y27e2ef48i2c80925d20fbeb7a@mail.gmail.com> I would soooo love to figure out how to play that whenever a program crashes. Wouldn't that be great as the intro to an error handler? The innocent client using your app, diligently working away, when suddenly... It just needs a soundtrack, maybe from the movie Contact when the transporter breaks up. Arthur On Fri, Feb 22, 2008 at 5:41 PM, Gustav Brock wrote: > Hi all > > Today it was a storm here, and a 40m diameter windmill collapsed due to > malfunctioning brakes. > A neighbour catched it on video (flash player needed): > > http://nyhederne.tv2.dk/video/index.php/nodeId-10546306.html > > This happens extremely rarely with modern windmills. > No people were hurt. > From cclenright at yahoo.com Fri Feb 22 21:09:48 2008 From: cclenright at yahoo.com (Chris Enright) Date: Fri, 22 Feb 2008 19:09:48 -0800 (PST) Subject: [AccessD] Extract Field Names to Records Message-ID: <621822.16709.qm@web34306.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Thanks guys, What I love about all this is that I am not a full time programmer, just seem to get roped in everywhere I go. A case of, in the land of the blind the one-eyed man is king. I'm more like an amateur archaeologist, and it is the fun of looking under the rocks you guys turn over and going "holy sh*t ... it works" .... many thanks Chris ----- Original Message ---- From: Gustav Brock To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Sent: Friday, February 22, 2008 10:25:36 PM Subject: Re: [AccessD] Extract Field Names to Records Hi Chris Sorry about that "easily" ... But didn't my second suggestion come close? Further, remember that the content of the fields can be referenced by their ID as well: varValue = rst.Fields(n).Value /gustav >>> cclenright at yahoo.com 22-02-2008 22:57 >>> Mark, I believe so! I did smile when I read Gustav's reply that contained the word "easily". Half the time with you guys I don't understand the questions let alone the answers. (Thanks Gustav, and I am still trying it). OK ... Team Leaders are able to got to a website and manually input core times, diverted time, downtimes and resources but it is a long and tedious daily process. I found that the location was able to accept an Excel workbook and also could export it. So I exported the workbook, which has 4 w/sheets, and imported it into Access. So I have 4 tables and I can populate them and export them back to Excel to a workbook that can be uploaded. The workbook has a fixed format. The only thing that changes is the employees. The problem is that the employees are column headers in the workbook and therefore end up as fields when imported to Access. I am trying to find a piece of code that will extract the field names from the table and add them to tblNames under the one field fldNames so I can use them in a list box on a form. Did I make myself totally confusing .. :) lol Chris -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com ____________________________________________________________________________________ Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ From max.wanadoo at gmail.com Sat Feb 23 03:06:30 2008 From: max.wanadoo at gmail.com (Max Wanadoo) Date: Sat, 23 Feb 2008 09:06:30 -0000 Subject: [AccessD] OT:Word Tips In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <005201c875fb$61c5c050$8119fea9@LTVM> Some Word tips and addresses sites. WEB ADDRESSES ------------- WordTips Web site - http://wordtips.VitalNews.com Word 2007 Tips site - http://word2007.tips.net Vital News Store - http://store.VitalNews.com WordTips Premium - http://store.VitalNews.com/premium.html WordTips Archives - http://store.VitalNews.com/wtarch.html Advertising - http://www.VitalNews.com/advertising.html Help Wanted questions - http://wordtips.VitalNews.com/questions.html E-MAIL ADDRESSES --------------- Help Wanted answers - wtanswers at vitalnews.com Editor and Publisher - allen at sharonparq.com Max From Gustav at cactus.dk Sat Feb 23 07:21:53 2008 From: Gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock) Date: Sat, 23 Feb 2008 14:21:53 +0100 Subject: [AccessD] OT: Friday non-humour Message-ID: Hi Arthur The transporter, yes, a remarkable piece of movie animation! Contact is one of my favourite movies - I was fascinated by the simple method of transmitting a series of prime figures as the proof of the transmitter to be intelligent. It is indeed in my small collection of DVD movies. So I could easily pull a part of the soundtrack ... and your clients would love when your app fails!? As a side note on weird happenings and findings, this morning I listened to a broadcast with a scientist researching the inner behaviour of our Earth. He played back an ultra subsonic soundtrack recorded in an old quiet mine in Germany for three months last year covering the last big earth quake. However, to be audible, it was transposed 19 octaves(!) to a duration of about 15 seconds, and the earth quake and its echo sounded like a stroke on a rusty bell. From this, he told, you could hear that the resonance frequence of the Earth is very close to the tone A - a coincidence? Who knows. If that wasn't enough, he played back the recording transposed 21 octaves and now you could hear a warbled summing tone - actually the deformation of the surface of the Earth of about 1 m caused by the moon during the rotation of the Earth. Too much on a Saturday morning. /gustav >>> fuller.artful at gmail.com 23-02-2008 02:57 >>> I would soooo love to figure out how to play that whenever a program crashes. Wouldn't that be great as the intro to an error handler? The innocent client using your app, diligently working away, when suddenly... It just needs a soundtrack, maybe from the movie Contact when the transporter breaks up. Arthur On Fri, Feb 22, 2008 at 5:41 PM, Gustav Brock wrote: > Hi all > > Today it was a storm here, and a 40m diameter windmill collapsed due to > malfunctioning brakes. > A neighbour catched it on video (flash player needed): > > http://nyhederne.tv2.dk/video/index.php/nodeId-10546306.html > > This happens extremely rarely with modern windmills. > No people were hurt. From fuller.artful at gmail.com Sat Feb 23 07:58:09 2008 From: fuller.artful at gmail.com (Arthur Fuller) Date: Sat, 23 Feb 2008 08:58:09 -0500 Subject: [AccessD] OT: Friday non-humour In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <29f585dd0802230558u51a7b3ccs517c2aa035ea42de@mail.gmail.com> Gustav, An old and much-cherished friend of mine, Jon Lomberg, did the opening to Contact. He has worked with Carl Sagan several times before, and won the Emmy for art direction on Cosmos. Jon also finagled me into being one of the 200 people selected to choose the music that went out on the disk in Voyager. What actually ended up on the disk was much more political fiasco than attempt to communicate, but it was a fun and challenging exercise up until the politicos got involved. Speaking of old friends, Jon and I and another guy named Bob McDonald at one point shared a house. Bob is now the host of a radio show called Quirks and Quarks, about science news, broadcast on CBC radio on Saturdays. (You might be able to pick it up from radio.cbc.ca.) That house was quite the household. Another guy who lived there was for 7 years the CDN chess champion, and later moved on to backgammon, where he was twice the world champion. It seems that I was the runt of that litter. Arthur On Sat, Feb 23, 2008 at 8:21 AM, Gustav Brock wrote: > Hi Arthur > > The transporter, yes, a remarkable piece of movie animation! > > Contact is one of my favourite movies - I was fascinated by the simple > method of transmitting a series of prime figures as the proof of the > transmitter to be intelligent. > It is indeed in my small collection of DVD movies. So I could easily pull > a part of the soundtrack ... and your clients would love when your app > fails!? > > As a side note on weird happenings and findings, this morning I listened > to a broadcast with a scientist researching the inner behaviour of our > Earth. He played back an ultra subsonic soundtrack recorded in an old quiet > mine in Germany for three months last year covering the last big earth > quake. However, to be audible, it was transposed 19 octaves(!) to a duration > of about 15 seconds, and the earth quake and its echo sounded like a stroke > on a rusty bell. From this, he told, you could hear that the resonance > frequence of the Earth is very close to the tone A - a coincidence? Who > knows. > If that wasn't enough, he played back the recording transposed 21 octaves > and now you could hear a warbled summing tone - actually the deformation of > the surface of the Earth of about 1 m caused by the moon during the rotation > of the Earth. > > Too much on a Saturday morning. > > /gustav > > >>> fuller.artful at gmail.com 23-02-2008 02:57 >>> > I would soooo love to figure out how to play that whenever a program > crashes. Wouldn't that be great as the intro to an error handler? The > innocent client using your app, diligently working away, when suddenly... > It > just needs a soundtrack, maybe from the movie Contact when the transporter > breaks up. > > Arthur > > On Fri, Feb 22, 2008 at 5:41 PM, Gustav Brock wrote: > > > Hi all > > > > Today it was a storm here, and a 40m diameter windmill collapsed due to > > malfunctioning brakes. > > A neighbour catched it on video (flash player needed): > > > > http://nyhederne.tv2.dk/video/index.php/nodeId-10546306.html > > > > This happens extremely rarely with modern windmills. > > No people were hurt. > > > -- > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > From Gustav at cactus.dk Sat Feb 23 09:54:24 2008 From: Gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock) Date: Sat, 23 Feb 2008 16:54:24 +0100 Subject: [AccessD] OT: Friday non-humour Message-ID: Hi Arthur Strange. I recall I wondered what kind of people and who assembled the playlist for that tour. So a database programmer attended ... why didn't I figure that out? Still I think the picture taken from outer space of our entire solar system is the greatest space shot of all. I had a link to it but I can't find it any more. /gustav >>> fuller.artful at gmail.com 23-02-2008 14:58 >>> Gustav, An old and much-cherished friend of mine, Jon Lomberg, did the opening to Contact. He has worked with Carl Sagan several times before, and won the Emmy for art direction on Cosmos. Jon also finagled me into being one of the 200 people selected to choose the music that went out on the disk in Voyager. What actually ended up on the disk was much more political fiasco than attempt to communicate, but it was a fun and challenging exercise up until the politicos got involved. Speaking of old friends, Jon and I and another guy named Bob McDonald at one point shared a house. Bob is now the host of a radio show called Quirks and Quarks, about science news, broadcast on CBC radio on Saturdays. (You might be able to pick it up from radio.cbc.ca.) That house was quite the household. Another guy who lived there was for 7 years the CDN chess champion, and later moved on to backgammon, where he was twice the world champion. It seems that I was the runt of that litter. Arthur On Sat, Feb 23, 2008 at 8:21 AM, Gustav Brock wrote: > Hi Arthur > > The transporter, yes, a remarkable piece of movie animation! > > Contact is one of my favourite movies - I was fascinated by the simple > method of transmitting a series of prime figures as the proof of the > transmitter to be intelligent. > It is indeed in my small collection of DVD movies. So I could easily pull > a part of the soundtrack ... and your clients would love when your app > fails!? > > As a side note on weird happenings and findings, this morning I listened > to a broadcast with a scientist researching the inner behaviour of our > Earth. He played back an ultra subsonic soundtrack recorded in an old quiet > mine in Germany for three months last year covering the last big earth > quake. However, to be audible, it was transposed 19 octaves(!) to a duration > of about 15 seconds, and the earth quake and its echo sounded like a stroke > on a rusty bell. From this, he told, you could hear that the resonance > frequence of the Earth is very close to the tone A - a coincidence? Who > knows. > If that wasn't enough, he played back the recording transposed 21 octaves > and now you could hear a warbled summing tone - actually the deformation of > the surface of the Earth of about 1 m caused by the moon during the rotation > of the Earth. > > Too much on a Saturday morning. > > /gustav > > >>> fuller.artful at gmail.com 23-02-2008 02:57 >>> > I would soooo love to figure out how to play that whenever a program > crashes. Wouldn't that be great as the intro to an error handler? The > innocent client using your app, diligently working away, when suddenly... > It > just needs a soundtrack, maybe from the movie Contact when the transporter > breaks up. > > Arthur > > On Fri, Feb 22, 2008 at 5:41 PM, Gustav Brock wrote: > > > Hi all > > > > Today it was a storm here, and a 40m diameter windmill collapsed due to > > malfunctioning brakes. > > A neighbour catched it on video (flash player needed): > > > > http://nyhederne.tv2.dk/video/index.php/nodeId-10546306.html > > > > This happens extremely rarely with modern windmills. > > No people were hurt. From fuller.artful at gmail.com Sat Feb 23 10:02:18 2008 From: fuller.artful at gmail.com (Arthur Fuller) Date: Sat, 23 Feb 2008 11:02:18 -0500 Subject: [AccessD] OT: Friday non-humour In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <29f585dd0802230802w6a8e6a5ey2f9279a3d7120cac@mail.gmail.com> Jon is actually a space painter. His paints giant paintings of space, using all the accurate detail known at the time of painting. His work hangs in fancy places including the Smithsonian, NASA, Cape Kennedy, the Hermitage, and Toronto's own Royal Ontario Museum, among others. To view more of his stuff, visit www.joblomberg.com. Tell him I sent you and he'll give you a special rate to Alpha Centauri. A. On Sat, Feb 23, 2008 at 10:54 AM, Gustav Brock wrote: > Hi Arthur > > Strange. I recall I wondered what kind of people and who assembled the > playlist for that tour. So a database programmer attended ... why didn't I > figure that out? > > Still I think the picture taken from outer space of our entire solar > system is the greatest space shot of all. I had a link to it but I can't > find it any more. > > /gustav > From rockysmolin at bchacc.com Sat Feb 23 10:07:00 2008 From: rockysmolin at bchacc.com (Rocky Smolin at Beach Access Software) Date: Sat, 23 Feb 2008 08:07:00 -0800 Subject: [AccessD] Slow Openers In-Reply-To: <003801c873d6$e9647690$0301a8c0@HAL9005> References: <009b01c8734a$eaa7f8b0$0301a8c0@HAL9005><430E80531228BA4497C5EB1A7BA786B02771C6@stekelbes.ithelps.local> <003801c873d6$e9647690$0301a8c0@HAL9005> Message-ID: <000e01c87636$1fcab8f0$0301a8c0@HAL9005> I used The Ultimate Troubleshooter to delete some startups and it seemed to work. But since I didn't delete them one at a time and test, I don't know which one was the culprit. Also did a defrag. Again no pre- and post-test. But things seem to be going faster now. About 5 seconds to open an mdb. Rocky -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Rocky Smolin at Beach Access Software Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2008 7:40 AM To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' Subject: Re: [AccessD] Slow Openers Erwin: I run AVG free edition but I don't see any place to turn scan file before opening on or off. Also run Sygate but same there. Is there a windows feature that might have got changed during an update? Something changed in the last week or so. Rocky -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Erwin Craps - IT Helps Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2008 10:36 PM To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving Subject: Re: [AccessD] Slow Openers Sounds like a virus scanner problem or a disk with bad clusters (check event viewer). -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Rocky Smolin at Beach Access Software Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2008 11:58 PM To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' Subject: [AccessD] Slow Openers Dear List: Suddenly (well over the past couple days) Access, Excel, and Word are opening slowly - like 30 seconds. This is a P4 3GHz box w/ 2GB Ram. What would be the most common things to look at for a cause of slow openings? MTIA Rocky -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.20.8/1288 - Release Date: 2/19/2008 8:47 PM -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.20.8/1288 - Release Date: 2/19/2008 8:47 PM From fahooper at trapo.com Sat Feb 23 10:22:35 2008 From: fahooper at trapo.com (Fred Hooper) Date: Sat, 23 Feb 2008 11:22:35 -0500 Subject: [AccessD] Slow Openers In-Reply-To: <000e01c87636$1fcab8f0$0301a8c0@HAL9005> Message-ID: <000701c87638$4ce177f0$a917c048@fred6998b25045> I found that the suggestions at http://blogs.zdnet.com/Ou/?p=547&page=1 helped speed up my computer. Fred -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Rocky Smolin at Beach Access Software Sent: Saturday, February 23, 2008 11:07 AM To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' Subject: Re: [AccessD] Slow Openers I used The Ultimate Troubleshooter to delete some startups and it seemed to work. But since I didn't delete them one at a time and test, I don't know which one was the culprit. Also did a defrag. Again no pre- and post-test. But things seem to be going faster now. About 5 seconds to open an mdb. Rocky -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Rocky Smolin at Beach Access Software Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2008 7:40 AM To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' Subject: Re: [AccessD] Slow Openers Erwin: I run AVG free edition but I don't see any place to turn scan file before opening on or off. Also run Sygate but same there. Is there a windows feature that might have got changed during an update? Something changed in the last week or so. Rocky -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Erwin Craps - IT Helps Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2008 10:36 PM To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving Subject: Re: [AccessD] Slow Openers Sounds like a virus scanner problem or a disk with bad clusters (check event viewer). -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Rocky Smolin at Beach Access Software Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2008 11:58 PM To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' Subject: [AccessD] Slow Openers Dear List: Suddenly (well over the past couple days) Access, Excel, and Word are opening slowly - like 30 seconds. This is a P4 3GHz box w/ 2GB Ram. What would be the most common things to look at for a cause of slow openings? MTIA Rocky -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.20.8/1288 - Release Date: 2/19/2008 8:47 PM -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.20.8/1288 - Release Date: 2/19/2008 8:47 PM -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From rockysmolin at bchacc.com Sat Feb 23 10:52:33 2008 From: rockysmolin at bchacc.com (Rocky Smolin at Beach Access Software) Date: Sat, 23 Feb 2008 08:52:33 -0800 Subject: [AccessD] Slow Openers In-Reply-To: <000701c87638$4ce177f0$a917c048@fred6998b25045> References: <000e01c87636$1fcab8f0$0301a8c0@HAL9005> <000701c87638$4ce177f0$a917c048@fred6998b25045> Message-ID: <000f01c8763c$7c842710$0301a8c0@HAL9005> Fred: Have you used the two programs on that page: CCleaner and Autoruns? Rocky -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Fred Hooper Sent: Saturday, February 23, 2008 8:23 AM To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' Subject: Re: [AccessD] Slow Openers I found that the suggestions at http://blogs.zdnet.com/Ou/?p=547&page=1 helped speed up my computer. Fred -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Rocky Smolin at Beach Access Software Sent: Saturday, February 23, 2008 11:07 AM To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' Subject: Re: [AccessD] Slow Openers I used The Ultimate Troubleshooter to delete some startups and it seemed to work. But since I didn't delete them one at a time and test, I don't know which one was the culprit. Also did a defrag. Again no pre- and post-test. But things seem to be going faster now. About 5 seconds to open an mdb. Rocky -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Rocky Smolin at Beach Access Software Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2008 7:40 AM To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' Subject: Re: [AccessD] Slow Openers Erwin: I run AVG free edition but I don't see any place to turn scan file before opening on or off. Also run Sygate but same there. Is there a windows feature that might have got changed during an update? Something changed in the last week or so. Rocky -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Erwin Craps - IT Helps Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2008 10:36 PM To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving Subject: Re: [AccessD] Slow Openers Sounds like a virus scanner problem or a disk with bad clusters (check event viewer). -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Rocky Smolin at Beach Access Software Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2008 11:58 PM To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' Subject: [AccessD] Slow Openers Dear List: Suddenly (well over the past couple days) Access, Excel, and Word are opening slowly - like 30 seconds. This is a P4 3GHz box w/ 2GB Ram. What would be the most common things to look at for a cause of slow openings? MTIA Rocky -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.20.8/1288 - Release Date: 2/19/2008 8:47 PM -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.20.8/1288 - Release Date: 2/19/2008 8:47 PM -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.20.9/1294 - Release Date: 2/22/2008 6:39 PM From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com Sat Feb 23 10:55:59 2008 From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (jwcolby) Date: Sat, 23 Feb 2008 11:55:59 -0500 Subject: [AccessD] fast checksum Message-ID: <02bc01c8763c$f7b68b30$0401a8c0@M90> I do some caching of records in class structures so that I can get much higher speed decision making that if I had to go get specific records out of a new recordset every time I need it. Let me give an example. I have a lookup table called tlkpProductType. The products are a dynamic list, i.e. products are added all the time. I have a second lookup table called tlkpProcess. The processes are a dynamic list, i.e. processes can be added all the time. I then have a many to many table tmmProductUsesProcess. Basically this is just a table that looks like: PUP_ID PUP_IDPRD PUP_IDProc Active 1 23 12 True 2 23 5 True 3 13 12 True And so forth. I actually fill in this table with an append where I pull the Product table (id) in and the process type table (id) in and append to the ProductUsesProcess table. Because there is no join of any kind between the two tables I get a record for each product for each process. The user then goes in and turns on the Active flag for specifically what product uses what process by setting that PUP record active. I use this to dynamically turn on and off the Processes that can be run by a specific product, and in fact my client can make these decisions on his own. The processes are mine, things like "Print report XYZ" or "Display tab ABC", the user can see the processes and a description of them and can then say "yea, product XYZ uses Displays this tab in the main form". It works well. However because of the fact that there are (at this instant for this example) 43 products and 53 processes, there are 43 x 53 records in tmmProductUsesProcess. Obviously these records (decisions) are used EVERYWHERE in the program so I cache them in a pair of classes. One clsPUPSupervisor class pulls the PUP records and stores each record in a clsPUP class, and stores the clsPUP instances in a collection. clsPUPSupervisor then has methods to answer the question PUP(lngProductID, lngProcessID) - is lngProductID used in the process represented by lngProcessID by iterating through the clsPUP collection and examining the data. That works swimmingly, I can get the answer in a VERY fast manner, typically (on my specific system at the client) between .06 and .08 msec which is WAY faster than pulling a query record and looking at that. So, I am caching things, and this is just one example, I have a few other similar types of structures where the data does not change often but it is used a lot and would take a much longer time to pull out of a query every time it is used. Now the rub, the data can change. In the example above it only changes when I create new processes, and I can tell the users to get out and back in to refresh the cache. However I have always wanted a method for the cache supervisor to be able to sense a change in the data that is cached and rebuild the cache when needed. I am looking at building a method of chksumming the values in each ID field and storing the checksums, then be able to go back later and checksum again and compare against the previous checksums. The cache supervisor would have to decide how often and when to check the checksums. Obviously if the checksum calcs take 30 ms and the cache access takes only .06 ms you do not want to do the check too often!! So I am looking for ideas on how to get a "checksum" without taking too much time. I am currently using a sum() of each ID which does what it does pretty fact but a sum of the values is not a particularly rigorous check. I also just do a brute force count() and if the count of the records changes then the cache needs to be refreshed. Both of these are "OK" but I really want something FAST but better than Sum(). If anyone has ideas I am definitely listening. John W. Colby Colby Consulting www.ColbyConsulting.com From fahooper at trapo.com Sat Feb 23 11:13:04 2008 From: fahooper at trapo.com (Fred Hooper) Date: Sat, 23 Feb 2008 12:13:04 -0500 Subject: [AccessD] Slow Openers In-Reply-To: <000f01c8763c$7c842710$0301a8c0@HAL9005> Message-ID: <000001c8763f$59f14360$a917c048@fred6998b25045> Yes, I've used both for some time. CCleaner seems efficient and it remembers my past choices so I don't remove things I'd like to keep, I particularly like that it offers to save a backup of its registry changes with a date stamp. Autoruns is simple to use and easy to undo if I make a mistake. (I use the article's suggestion on how to use it by not showing M$ signed programs.) I could probably use it to reduce running programs further if I knew enough about Windows. That Autoruns was written by the people at SysInternals is a high recommendation for me. (I've used their pcTools programs to solve some seemingly-impossible problems.) Fred -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Rocky Smolin at Beach Access Software Sent: Saturday, February 23, 2008 11:53 AM To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' Subject: Re: [AccessD] Slow Openers Fred: Have you used the two programs on that page: CCleaner and Autoruns? Rocky -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Fred Hooper Sent: Saturday, February 23, 2008 8:23 AM To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' Subject: Re: [AccessD] Slow Openers I found that the suggestions at http://blogs.zdnet.com/Ou/?p=547&page=1 helped speed up my computer. Fred -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Rocky Smolin at Beach Access Software Sent: Saturday, February 23, 2008 11:07 AM To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' Subject: Re: [AccessD] Slow Openers I used The Ultimate Troubleshooter to delete some startups and it seemed to work. But since I didn't delete them one at a time and test, I don't know which one was the culprit. Also did a defrag. Again no pre- and post-test. But things seem to be going faster now. About 5 seconds to open an mdb. Rocky -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Rocky Smolin at Beach Access Software Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2008 7:40 AM To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' Subject: Re: [AccessD] Slow Openers Erwin: I run AVG free edition but I don't see any place to turn scan file before opening on or off. Also run Sygate but same there. Is there a windows feature that might have got changed during an update? Something changed in the last week or so. Rocky -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Erwin Craps - IT Helps Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2008 10:36 PM To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving Subject: Re: [AccessD] Slow Openers Sounds like a virus scanner problem or a disk with bad clusters (check event viewer). -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Rocky Smolin at Beach Access Software Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2008 11:58 PM To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' Subject: [AccessD] Slow Openers Dear List: Suddenly (well over the past couple days) Access, Excel, and Word are opening slowly - like 30 seconds. This is a P4 3GHz box w/ 2GB Ram. What would be the most common things to look at for a cause of slow openings? MTIA Rocky -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.20.8/1288 - Release Date: 2/19/2008 8:47 PM -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.20.8/1288 - Release Date: 2/19/2008 8:47 PM -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.20.9/1294 - Release Date: 2/22/2008 6:39 PM -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From max.wanadoo at gmail.com Sat Feb 23 11:45:42 2008 From: max.wanadoo at gmail.com (Max Wanadoo) Date: Sat, 23 Feb 2008 17:45:42 -0000 Subject: [AccessD] fast checksum In-Reply-To: <02bc01c8763c$f7b68b30$0401a8c0@M90> References: <02bc01c8763c$f7b68b30$0401a8c0@M90> Message-ID: <001001c87643$ea1748a0$8119fea9@LTVM> John, Could you not set a FLAG (ie variable) whenever a change is made to the tables and have a timer check it and if TRUE then call the function to rebuild? Even if you use a checksum you are going to need a timer to decide when to recalc it and I would think that re-calculating a checksum will take longer than just check the status of a flag on one of your system variable. Max -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of jwcolby Sent: Saturday, February 23, 2008 4:56 PM To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' Subject: [AccessD] fast checksum I do some caching of records in class structures so that I can get much higher speed decision making that if I had to go get specific records out of a new recordset every time I need it. Let me give an example. I have a lookup table called tlkpProductType. The products are a dynamic list, i.e. products are added all the time. I have a second lookup table called tlkpProcess. The processes are a dynamic list, i.e. processes can be added all the time. I then have a many to many table tmmProductUsesProcess. Basically this is just a table that looks like: PUP_ID PUP_IDPRD PUP_IDProc Active 1 23 12 True 2 23 5 True 3 13 12 True And so forth. I actually fill in this table with an append where I pull the Product table (id) in and the process type table (id) in and append to the ProductUsesProcess table. Because there is no join of any kind between the two tables I get a record for each product for each process. The user then goes in and turns on the Active flag for specifically what product uses what process by setting that PUP record active. I use this to dynamically turn on and off the Processes that can be run by a specific product, and in fact my client can make these decisions on his own. The processes are mine, things like "Print report XYZ" or "Display tab ABC", the user can see the processes and a description of them and can then say "yea, product XYZ uses Displays this tab in the main form". It works well. However because of the fact that there are (at this instant for this example) 43 products and 53 processes, there are 43 x 53 records in tmmProductUsesProcess. Obviously these records (decisions) are used EVERYWHERE in the program so I cache them in a pair of classes. One clsPUPSupervisor class pulls the PUP records and stores each record in a clsPUP class, and stores the clsPUP instances in a collection. clsPUPSupervisor then has methods to answer the question PUP(lngProductID, lngProcessID) - is lngProductID used in the process represented by lngProcessID by iterating through the clsPUP collection and examining the data. That works swimmingly, I can get the answer in a VERY fast manner, typically (on my specific system at the client) between .06 and .08 msec which is WAY faster than pulling a query record and looking at that. So, I am caching things, and this is just one example, I have a few other similar types of structures where the data does not change often but it is used a lot and would take a much longer time to pull out of a query every time it is used. Now the rub, the data can change. In the example above it only changes when I create new processes, and I can tell the users to get out and back in to refresh the cache. However I have always wanted a method for the cache supervisor to be able to sense a change in the data that is cached and rebuild the cache when needed. I am looking at building a method of chksumming the values in each ID field and storing the checksums, then be able to go back later and checksum again and compare against the previous checksums. The cache supervisor would have to decide how often and when to check the checksums. Obviously if the checksum calcs take 30 ms and the cache access takes only .06 ms you do not want to do the check too often!! So I am looking for ideas on how to get a "checksum" without taking too much time. I am currently using a sum() of each ID which does what it does pretty fact but a sum of the values is not a particularly rigorous check. I also just do a brute force count() and if the count of the records changes then the cache needs to be refreshed. Both of these are "OK" but I really want something FAST but better than Sum(). If anyone has ideas I am definitely listening. John W. Colby Colby Consulting www.ColbyConsulting.com -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From dw-murphy at cox.net Sat Feb 23 12:57:19 2008 From: dw-murphy at cox.net (Doug Murphy) Date: Sat, 23 Feb 2008 10:57:19 -0800 Subject: [AccessD] Slow Openers In-Reply-To: <000e01c87636$1fcab8f0$0301a8c0@HAL9005> Message-ID: <003901c8764d$ea3684e0$0200a8c0@murphy3234aaf1> Fred Langa of Windows Secrets news letter, paid version I think did a series on speeding up computers that went through an extensive list of things to tune. If you get Windows secrets look at the September 27 edition. -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Rocky Smolin at Beach Access Software Sent: Saturday, February 23, 2008 8:07 AM To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' Subject: Re: [AccessD] Slow Openers I used The Ultimate Troubleshooter to delete some startups and it seemed to work. But since I didn't delete them one at a time and test, I don't know which one was the culprit. Also did a defrag. Again no pre- and post-test. But things seem to be going faster now. About 5 seconds to open an mdb. Rocky -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Rocky Smolin at Beach Access Software Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2008 7:40 AM To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' Subject: Re: [AccessD] Slow Openers Erwin: I run AVG free edition but I don't see any place to turn scan file before opening on or off. Also run Sygate but same there. Is there a windows feature that might have got changed during an update? Something changed in the last week or so. Rocky -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Erwin Craps - IT Helps Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2008 10:36 PM To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving Subject: Re: [AccessD] Slow Openers Sounds like a virus scanner problem or a disk with bad clusters (check event viewer). -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Rocky Smolin at Beach Access Software Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2008 11:58 PM To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' Subject: [AccessD] Slow Openers Dear List: Suddenly (well over the past couple days) Access, Excel, and Word are opening slowly - like 30 seconds. This is a P4 3GHz box w/ 2GB Ram. What would be the most common things to look at for a cause of slow openings? MTIA Rocky -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.20.8/1288 - Release Date: 2/19/2008 8:47 PM -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.20.8/1288 - Release Date: 2/19/2008 8:47 PM -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From wdhindman at dejpolsystems.com Sat Feb 23 16:41:02 2008 From: wdhindman at dejpolsystems.com (William Hindman) Date: Sat, 23 Feb 2008 17:41:02 -0500 Subject: [AccessD] OT: Friday non-humour References: <29f585dd0802230802w6a8e6a5ey2f9279a3d7120cac@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <005e01c8766d$2b536e60$d67e6c4c@jisshowsbs.local> www.jonlomberg.com William ----- Original Message ----- From: "Arthur Fuller" To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving" Sent: Saturday, February 23, 2008 11:02 AM Subject: Re: [AccessD] OT: Friday non-humour > Jon is actually a space painter. His paints giant paintings of space, > using > all the accurate detail known at the time of painting. His work hangs in > fancy places including the Smithsonian, NASA, Cape Kennedy, the Hermitage, > and Toronto's own Royal Ontario Museum, among others. To view more of his > stuff, visit www.joblomberg.com. Tell him I sent you and he'll give you a > special rate to Alpha Centauri. > > A. > > On Sat, Feb 23, 2008 at 10:54 AM, Gustav Brock wrote: > >> Hi Arthur >> >> Strange. I recall I wondered what kind of people and who assembled the >> playlist for that tour. So a database programmer attended ... why didn't >> I >> figure that out? >> >> Still I think the picture taken from outer space of our entire solar >> system is the greatest space shot of all. I had a link to it but I can't >> find it any more. >> >> /gustav >> > -- > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > From Gustav at cactus.dk Sat Feb 23 16:54:39 2008 From: Gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock) Date: Sat, 23 Feb 2008 23:54:39 +0100 Subject: [AccessD] OT: Friday non-humour Message-ID: Hi Arthur Thanks. I'll certainly give Jon a call when holiday season arrives! /gustav >>> fuller.artful at gmail.com 23-02-2008 17:02 >>> Jon is actually a space painter. His paints giant paintings of space, using all the accurate detail known at the time of painting. His work hangs in fancy places including the Smithsonian, NASA, Cape Kennedy, the Hermitage, and Toronto's own Royal Ontario Museum, among others. To view more of his stuff, visit www.joblomberg.com. Tell him I sent you and he'll give you a special rate to Alpha Centauri. A. On Sat, Feb 23, 2008 at 10:54 AM, Gustav Brock wrote: > Hi Arthur > > Strange. I recall I wondered what kind of people and who assembled the > playlist for that tour. So a database programmer attended ... why didn't I > figure that out? > > Still I think the picture taken from outer space of our entire solar > system is the greatest space shot of all. I had a link to it but I can't > find it any more. > > /gustav From fuller.artful at gmail.com Sat Feb 23 17:00:04 2008 From: fuller.artful at gmail.com (Arthur Fuller) Date: Sat, 23 Feb 2008 18:00:04 -0500 Subject: [AccessD] OT: Friday non-humour In-Reply-To: <005e01c8766d$2b536e60$d67e6c4c@jisshowsbs.local> References: <29f585dd0802230802w6a8e6a5ey2f9279a3d7120cac@mail.gmail.com> <005e01c8766d$2b536e60$d67e6c4c@jisshowsbs.local> Message-ID: <29f585dd0802231500i7b9fd1dew4195287e4d05e3a1@mail.gmail.com> Thanks, William. Sloppy fingers. A. On Sat, Feb 23, 2008 at 5:41 PM, William Hindman < wdhindman at dejpolsystems.com> wrote: > www.jonlomberg.com > > William > From joe at anamericanjoe.us Sat Feb 23 22:40:25 2008 From: joe at anamericanjoe.us (Joe Hecht) Date: Sat, 23 Feb 2008 20:40:25 -0800 Subject: [AccessD] Code help Please Message-ID: <000001c8769f$60445df0$6401a8c0@ACER2G> Hi All, I have a control txtQBInvoice I want to check to make sure that if txtQBInvoice has an existing value (an existing record) it has not changed. I know it should be something like If me. txtQBInvoice.oldvalue <> me. txtQBInvoice. New value then Txtbox Yada yada yada. I cannot find .newvalue or some equivalent for that. How do I write this please? TIA Joe Hecht Joe at anamericanjoe.us From rockysmolin at bchacc.com Sat Feb 23 23:30:38 2008 From: rockysmolin at bchacc.com (Rocky Smolin at Beach Access Software) Date: Sat, 23 Feb 2008 21:30:38 -0800 Subject: [AccessD] Code help Please In-Reply-To: <000001c8769f$60445df0$6401a8c0@ACER2G> References: <000001c8769f$60445df0$6401a8c0@ACER2G> Message-ID: <007501c876a6$63857b00$0301a8c0@HAL9005> Joe, There's no .NewValue property that I'm aware of. So you can check to see if it has changed by "If me.txtQBInvoice.OldValue <> me.txtQBInvoice". But you need to check if it has changed in the BeforeUpdate event of the form. At that point .OldValue is still available. By the time you get to the .AfterUpdate event, the old value is gone. Another less elegant way is to save the value of txtQBInvoice in a variable in the Current event of the form. Then you can check to see if it has changed any time you want to. HTH Rocky -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Joe Hecht Sent: Saturday, February 23, 2008 8:40 PM To: accessD at databaseadvisors.com Subject: [AccessD] Code help Please Hi All, I have a control txtQBInvoice I want to check to make sure that if txtQBInvoice has an existing value (an existing record) it has not changed. I know it should be something like If me. txtQBInvoice.oldvalue <> me. txtQBInvoice. New value then Txtbox Yada yada yada. I cannot find .newvalue or some equivalent for that. How do I write this please? TIA Joe Hecht Joe at anamericanjoe.us -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.20.9/1295 - Release Date: 2/23/2008 9:35 PM From fuller.artful at gmail.com Sun Feb 24 10:38:25 2008 From: fuller.artful at gmail.com (Arthur Fuller) Date: Sun, 24 Feb 2008 11:38:25 -0500 Subject: [AccessD] OT: Physics Message-ID: <29f585dd0802240838m78ee3303lde65ec1fcfd3485c@mail.gmail.com> A silly Friday riddle, a couple of days late: Q. Who invented the Uncertainty Principle? A. Werner Heisenberg, I think. A. From accma at sympatico.ca Sun Feb 24 12:54:06 2008 From: accma at sympatico.ca (Annie Courchesne, CMA) Date: Sun, 24 Feb 2008 13:54:06 -0500 Subject: [AccessD] Closing mdb file via vba Message-ID: Hi all, Is there a way to close a mdb file (not the one currently used) via vba code? Thanks! Annie Courchesne, CMA From DWUTKA at Marlow.com Sun Feb 24 14:59:45 2008 From: DWUTKA at Marlow.com (Drew Wutka) Date: Sun, 24 Feb 2008 14:59:45 -0600 Subject: [AccessD] Closing mdb file via vba In-Reply-To: Message-ID: You might be able to use GetObject, which will grab an existing session. But if more then one instance is open, not sure how to grab that. Two methods I would suggest would be to get the hwnd, and send the 'close window' message to it. Or create a process inside the .mdb you want to be able to close remotely, that listens for something, either a flag in a table, or a TCP/IP message. Drew -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Annie Courchesne, CMA Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2008 12:54 PM To: Accessd Subject: [AccessD] Closing mdb file via vba Hi all, Is there a way to close a mdb file (not the one currently used) via vba code? Thanks! 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From mmattys at rochester.rr.com Sun Feb 24 15:11:07 2008 From: mmattys at rochester.rr.com (Michael R Mattys) Date: Sun, 24 Feb 2008 16:11:07 -0500 Subject: [AccessD] Closing mdb file via vba References: Message-ID: <014001c87729$cf005890$0202a8c0@Laptop> DAO: dbengine(0)(1).Close Michael R. Mattys MapPoint & Access Dev www.mattysconsulting.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Annie Courchesne, CMA" To: "Accessd" Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2008 1:54 PM Subject: [AccessD] Closing mdb file via vba > Hi all, > > > > Is there a way to close a mdb file (not the one currently used) via vba > code? > > > > Thanks! > > > > > > Annie Courchesne, CMA > > > > -- > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From Darryl.Collins at coles.com.au Sun Feb 24 17:04:05 2008 From: Darryl.Collins at coles.com.au (Darryl Collins) Date: Mon, 25 Feb 2008 10:04:05 +1100 Subject: [AccessD] OT: Friday non-humour Message-ID: <49DFE57FB126044B8A8B934E7AEA09ED09FD6F8D@WPEXCH05.colesmyer.ad.cmltd.net.au> Funny this came up as the entire series of Cosmos is showing again on PayTV in Australia and I have been watching it again. I remember watching it amazed many years ago. Whilst the CGI animation and even the information about the planets and moons is dated now, the sheer passion and depth of the series still shines thru. Definately worth a second watch. :) I am still amazed at the Voyager craft and how they are still returning data even today, and they are pretty much at the edge of our solar system now - excellent stuff and a credit to the men and woman who designed them. Am a big fan of the Mars rovers as well...! -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Arthur Fuller Sent: Sunday, 24 February 2008 12:58 AM To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving Subject: Re: [AccessD] OT: Friday non-humour Gustav, An old and much-cherished friend of mine, Jon Lomberg, did the opening to Contact. He has worked with Carl Sagan several times before, and won the Emmy for art direction on Cosmos. Jon also finagled me into being one of the 200 people selected to choose the music that went out on the disk in Voyager. What actually ended up on the disk was much more political fiasco than attempt to communicate, but it was a fun and challenging exercise up until the politicos got involved. Speaking of old friends, Jon and I and another guy named Bob McDonald at one point shared a house. Bob is now the host of a radio show called Quirks and Quarks, about science news, broadcast on CBC radio on Saturdays. (You might be able to pick it up from radio.cbc.ca.) That house was quite the household. Another guy who lived there was for 7 years the CDN chess champion, and later moved on to backgammon, where he was twice the world champion. It seems that I was the runt of that litter. Arthur On Sat, Feb 23, 2008 at 8:21 AM, Gustav Brock wrote: > Hi Arthur > > The transporter, yes, a remarkable piece of movie animation! > > Contact is one of my favourite movies - I was fascinated by the simple > method of transmitting a series of prime figures as the proof of the > transmitter to be intelligent. > It is indeed in my small collection of DVD movies. So I could easily pull > a part of the soundtrack ... and your clients would love when your app > fails!? > > As a side note on weird happenings and findings, this morning I listened > to a broadcast with a scientist researching the inner behaviour of our > Earth. He played back an ultra subsonic soundtrack recorded in an old quiet > mine in Germany for three months last year covering the last big earth > quake. However, to be audible, it was transposed 19 octaves(!) to a duration > of about 15 seconds, and the earth quake and its echo sounded like a stroke > on a rusty bell. From this, he told, you could hear that the resonance > frequence of the Earth is very close to the tone A - a coincidence? Who > knows. > If that wasn't enough, he played back the recording transposed 21 octaves > and now you could hear a warbled summing tone - actually the deformation of > the surface of the Earth of about 1 m caused by the moon during the rotation > of the Earth. > > Too much on a Saturday morning. > > /gustav > > >>> fuller.artful at gmail.com 23-02-2008 02:57 >>> > I would soooo love to figure out how to play that whenever a program > crashes. Wouldn't that be great as the intro to an error handler? The > innocent client using your app, diligently working away, when suddenly... > It > just needs a soundtrack, maybe from the movie Contact when the transporter > breaks up. > > Arthur > > On Fri, Feb 22, 2008 at 5:41 PM, Gustav Brock wrote: > > > Hi all > > > > Today it was a storm here, and a 40m diameter windmill collapsed due to > > malfunctioning brakes. > > A neighbour catched it on video (flash player needed): > > > > http://nyhederne.tv2.dk/video/index.php/nodeId-10546306.html > > > > This happens extremely rarely with modern windmills. > > No people were hurt. > > > -- > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com This email and any attachments may contain privileged and confidential information and are intended for the named addressee only. If you have received this e-mail in error, please notify the sender and delete this e-mail immediately. Any confidentiality, privilege or copyright is not waived or lost because this e-mail has been sent to you in error. It is your responsibility to check this e-mail and any attachments for viruses. No warranty is made that this material is free from computer virus or any other defect or error. Any loss/damage incurred by using this material is not the sender's responsibility. The sender's entire liability will be limited to resupplying the material. From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com Sun Feb 24 19:07:34 2008 From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (jwcolby) Date: Sun, 24 Feb 2008 20:07:34 -0500 Subject: [AccessD] Closing mdb file via vba In-Reply-To: <014001c87729$cf005890$0202a8c0@Laptop> References: <014001c87729$cf005890$0202a8c0@Laptop> Message-ID: <02c901c8774a$ce710de0$0401a8c0@M90> Woa, now there's one for ya. John W. Colby Colby Consulting www.ColbyConsulting.com -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Michael R Mattys Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2008 4:11 PM To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving Subject: Re: [AccessD] Closing mdb file via vba DAO: dbengine(0)(1).Close Michael R. Mattys MapPoint & Access Dev www.mattysconsulting.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Annie Courchesne, CMA" To: "Accessd" Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2008 1:54 PM Subject: [AccessD] Closing mdb file via vba > Hi all, > > > > Is there a way to close a mdb file (not the one currently used) via vba > code? > > > > Thanks! > > > > > > Annie Courchesne, CMA > > > > -- > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From fuller.artful at gmail.com Mon Feb 25 08:36:28 2008 From: fuller.artful at gmail.com (Arthur Fuller) Date: Mon, 25 Feb 2008 09:36:28 -0500 Subject: [AccessD] What library is this? Message-ID: <29f585dd0802250636h4efcaaf0v7e943a28404efba1@mail.gmail.com> Can anyone tell me which DLL to reference so that this line compiles in Access 2003? Dim repCurrentApp As New JRO.Replica '<---- JRO? TIA, Arthur From fuller.artful at gmail.com Mon Feb 25 08:40:12 2008 From: fuller.artful at gmail.com (Arthur Fuller) Date: Mon, 25 Feb 2008 09:40:12 -0500 Subject: [AccessD] JRO Solved Message-ID: <29f585dd0802250640j392e5238g1ef69cdfee40054d@mail.gmail.com> Yet another case of insight achieved right after clicking Send. It's Microsoft Jet and Replication Objects library. Doh! A. From cfoust at infostatsystems.com Mon Feb 25 10:29:56 2008 From: cfoust at infostatsystems.com (Charlotte Foust) Date: Mon, 25 Feb 2008 08:29:56 -0800 Subject: [AccessD] OT: Physics In-Reply-To: <29f585dd0802240838m78ee3303lde65ec1fcfd3485c@mail.gmail.com> References: <29f585dd0802240838m78ee3303lde65ec1fcfd3485c@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: But you aren't certain? LOL Charlotte Foust -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Arthur Fuller Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2008 8:38 AM To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving Subject: [AccessD] OT: Physics A silly Friday riddle, a couple of days late: Q. Who invented the Uncertainty Principle? A. Werner Heisenberg, I think. A. -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From max.wanadoo at gmail.com Mon Feb 25 11:00:14 2008 From: max.wanadoo at gmail.com (Max Wanadoo) Date: Mon, 25 Feb 2008 17:00:14 -0000 Subject: [AccessD] OT: Physics In-Reply-To: References: <29f585dd0802240838m78ee3303lde65ec1fcfd3485c@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <000901c877cf$e5891100$8119fea9@LTVM> Probably why we need a yes/no field to have a Triple State. Yes, No and Uncertain. Max -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Charlotte Foust Sent: Monday, February 25, 2008 4:30 PM To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving Subject: Re: [AccessD] OT: Physics But you aren't certain? LOL Charlotte Foust -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Arthur Fuller Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2008 8:38 AM To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving Subject: [AccessD] OT: Physics A silly Friday riddle, a couple of days late: Q. Who invented the Uncertainty Principle? A. Werner Heisenberg, I think. A. -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From krosenstiel at comcast.net Mon Feb 25 11:34:52 2008 From: krosenstiel at comcast.net (krosenstiel at comcast.net) Date: Mon, 25 Feb 2008 17:34:52 +0000 Subject: [AccessD] (no subject) Message-ID: <022520081734.4098.47C2FC3C0008B128000010022215553894040A079B9C020A9C019D05@comcast.net> >From a patient database in Access 2003, I want to pick the right patient for a report of individual details. I have fields Lname, Fname and Mname. In the query on the Lname field I have the following as the criteria: Like "*" & [Enter Last Name] & "*" This works fine to pick all the Johnsons, including "Johnson, Jr." However, the report is then returning all the Johnsons in sequence, but I only want 1 particular Johnson with his/her individual details. How do I get the query to give me a list of "Johnsons," including first and middle names, from which I can pick the right patient to plop into the report? MTIA -- and please keep it simple, I'm not very advanced with Access -- Karen Rosenstiel Seattle WA USA From ssharkins at gmail.com Mon Feb 25 11:41:41 2008 From: ssharkins at gmail.com (Susan Harkins) Date: Mon, 25 Feb 2008 12:41:41 -0500 Subject: [AccessD] (no subject) References: <022520081734.4098.47C2FC3C0008B128000010022215553894040A079B9C020A9C019D05@comcast.net> Message-ID: <032001c877d5$b04d6260$4b3a8343@SusanOne> Karen, I'd use a search form -- a simple form with just a couple of controls -- one that lets you express the criteria, a list box or combo box (which sounds like the right way for you in this instance) that then populates with the matching results. You can then use a control event or a command button to launch the report. Susan H. > >From a patient database in Access 2003, I want to pick the right patient > >for a report of individual details. I have fields Lname, Fname and Mname. > >In the query on the Lname field I have the following as the criteria: > > Like "*" & [Enter Last Name] & "*" > > This works fine to pick all the Johnsons, including "Johnson, Jr." > However, the report is then returning all the Johnsons in sequence, but I > only want 1 particular Johnson with his/her individual details. How do I > get the query to give me a list of "Johnsons," including first and middle > names, from which I can pick the right patient to plop into the report? > > MTIA -- and please keep it simple, I'm not very advanced with Access > > > -- > Karen Rosenstiel > Seattle WA USA > -- > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From markamatte at hotmail.com Mon Feb 25 11:43:28 2008 From: markamatte at hotmail.com (Mark A Matte) Date: Mon, 25 Feb 2008 17:43:28 +0000 Subject: [AccessD] (no subject) Lookup methods? In-Reply-To: <022520081734.4098.47C2FC3C0008B128000010022215553894040A079B9C020A9C019D05@comcast.net> References: <022520081734.4098.47C2FC3C0008B128000010022215553894040A079B9C020A9C019D05@comcast.net> Message-ID: Karen, You could create a form that looks up(and displays) all customer names in a dropdown...and you select the one you want...then have your report/query look at the form to get your criteria. Good luck, Mark A. Matte> From: krosenstiel at comcast.net> To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com> Date: Mon, 25 Feb 2008 17:34:52 +0000> Subject: [AccessD] (no subject)> > >From a patient database in Access 2003, I want to pick the right patient for a report of individual details. I have fields Lname, Fname and Mname. In the query on the Lname field I have the following as the criteria:> > Like "*" & [Enter Last Name] & "*"> > This works fine to pick all the Johnsons, including "Johnson, Jr." However, the report is then returning all the Johnsons in sequence, but I only want 1 particular Johnson with his/her individual details. How do I get the query to give me a list of "Johnsons," including first and middle names, from which I can pick the right patient to plop into the report?> > MTIA -- and please keep it simple, I'm not very advanced with Access> > > --> Karen Rosenstiel> Seattle WA USA> -- > AccessD mailing list> AccessD at databaseadvisors.com> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com _________________________________________________________________ Connect and share in new ways with Windows Live. http://www.windowslive.com/share.html?ocid=TXT_TAGHM_Wave2_sharelife_012008 From cfoust at infostatsystems.com Mon Feb 25 11:46:02 2008 From: cfoust at infostatsystems.com (Charlotte Foust) Date: Mon, 25 Feb 2008 09:46:02 -0800 Subject: [AccessD] OT: Physics In-Reply-To: <000901c877cf$e5891100$8119fea9@LTVM> References: <29f585dd0802240838m78ee3303lde65ec1fcfd3485c@mail.gmail.com> <000901c877cf$e5891100$8119fea9@LTVM> Message-ID: I'm not sure about that! Charlotte -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Max Wanadoo Sent: Monday, February 25, 2008 9:00 AM To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' Subject: Re: [AccessD] OT: Physics Probably why we need a yes/no field to have a Triple State. Yes, No and Uncertain. Max -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Charlotte Foust Sent: Monday, February 25, 2008 4:30 PM To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving Subject: Re: [AccessD] OT: Physics But you aren't certain? LOL Charlotte Foust -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Arthur Fuller Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2008 8:38 AM To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving Subject: [AccessD] OT: Physics A silly Friday riddle, a couple of days late: Q. Who invented the Uncertainty Principle? A. Werner Heisenberg, I think. A. -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From cfoust at infostatsystems.com Mon Feb 25 11:52:09 2008 From: cfoust at infostatsystems.com (Charlotte Foust) Date: Mon, 25 Feb 2008 09:52:09 -0800 Subject: [AccessD] (no subject) In-Reply-To: <022520081734.4098.47C2FC3C0008B128000010022215553894040A079B9C020A9C019D05@comcast.net> References: <022520081734.4098.47C2FC3C0008B128000010022215553894040A079B9C020A9C019D05@comcast.net> Message-ID: You can't use like to get an exact match, except by accident. Are you doing this from a form? If so, a combobox populated with the "Like" results would allow the user to select the particular individual for the report. Unfortunately, if your data is keyed only on LName and FName, you won't be able to handle people with the same name. And comboboxes give you the first match, so the underlying value needs to be a concatenation of the first and lastname fields. If you are just looking at the results of a query, then you need to add a criteria "Like" expression under the FName field too, on the same line in the grid so that you create and And condition. We need more information about exactly what you're doing to advise you appropriately. Charlotte Foust -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of krosenstiel at comcast.net Sent: Monday, February 25, 2008 9:35 AM To: DBA-AccessD Subject: [AccessD] (no subject) >From a patient database in Access 2003, I want to pick the right patient for a report of individual details. I have fields Lname, Fname and Mname. In the query on the Lname field I have the following as the criteria: Like "*" & [Enter Last Name] & "*" This works fine to pick all the Johnsons, including "Johnson, Jr." However, the report is then returning all the Johnsons in sequence, but I only want 1 particular Johnson with his/her individual details. How do I get the query to give me a list of "Johnsons," including first and middle names, from which I can pick the right patient to plop into the report? MTIA -- and please keep it simple, I'm not very advanced with Access -- Karen Rosenstiel Seattle WA USA -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From fuller.artful at gmail.com Mon Feb 25 11:57:46 2008 From: fuller.artful at gmail.com (Arthur Fuller) Date: Mon, 25 Feb 2008 12:57:46 -0500 Subject: [AccessD] (no subject) In-Reply-To: <022520081734.4098.47C2FC3C0008B128000010022215553894040A079B9C020A9C019D05@comcast.net> References: <022520081734.4098.47C2FC3C0008B128000010022215553894040A079B9C020A9C019D05@comcast.net> Message-ID: <29f585dd0802250957i595ede6bk4b2653697295ad75@mail.gmail.com> My suggestion would be to skip the LIKE query and instead pop up a form first, containing a combo box and two buttons (preview and cancel). Let's call the combo-box Finder_cbo. First create a query called Patients_qs whose SQL is: SELECT PatientID, Lname & ", " & Fname & " " & Mname FROM Patients ORDER BY Lname, Fname, Mname Save this query as Patients_qs (suffix means query select). Create a form containing a combo box and a pair of buttons "Preview" and "Cancel". use the wizard to create the buttons and for the former button, choose Preview Report. Change the resulting code so its stCriteria string looks like: stCriteria = "PatientID = " & Me.Finder_cbo Use the wizard to create the Cancel button and for its action just choose Form | Close. Finally, instead of opening the report directly, open the form just created and it will handle the rest. hth, Arthur On Mon, Feb 25, 2008 at 12:34 PM, wrote: > >From a patient database in Access 2003, I want to pick the right patient > for a report of individual details. I have fields Lname, Fname and Mname. In > the query on the Lname field I have the following as the criteria: > > Like "*" & [Enter Last Name] & "*" > > This works fine to pick all the Johnsons, including "Johnson, Jr." > However, the report is then returning all the Johnsons in sequence, but I > only want 1 particular Johnson with his/her individual details. How do I get > the query to give me a list of "Johnsons," including first and middle names, > from which I can pick the right patient to plop into the report? > > MTIA -- and please keep it simple, I'm not very advanced with Access > > > -- > Karen Rosenstiel > Seattle WA USA > -- > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > From krosenstiel at comcast.net Mon Feb 25 12:24:10 2008 From: krosenstiel at comcast.net (krosenstiel at comcast.net) Date: Mon, 25 Feb 2008 18:24:10 +0000 Subject: [AccessD] (no subject) Message-ID: <022520081824.17371.47C307CA00028E05000043DB2216525806040A079B9C020A9C019D05@comcast.net> Charlotte, I specified that the criteria was on the Lname field in the query. Susan, Arthur and Mark suggested a popup form so I will play with that. Thanks all. -- Karen Rosenstiel Seattle WA USA -------------- Original message ---------------------- From: "Charlotte Foust" > You can't use like to get an exact match, except by accident. Are you > doing this from a form? If so, a combobox populated with the "Like" > results would allow the user to select the particular individual for the > report. Unfortunately, if your data is keyed only on LName and FName, > you won't be able to handle people with the same name. And comboboxes > give you the first match, so the underlying value needs to be a > concatenation of the first and lastname fields. If you are just looking > at the results of a query, then you need to add a criteria "Like" > expression under the FName field too, on the same line in the grid so > that you create and And condition. > > We need more information about exactly what you're doing to advise you > appropriately. > > Charlotte Foust > > -----Original Message----- > From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of > krosenstiel at comcast.net > Sent: Monday, February 25, 2008 9:35 AM > To: DBA-AccessD > Subject: [AccessD] (no subject) > > >From a patient database in Access 2003, I want to pick the right > patient for a report of individual details. I have fields Lname, Fname > and Mname. In the query on the Lname field I have the following as the > criteria: > > Like "*" & [Enter Last Name] & "*" > > This works fine to pick all the Johnsons, including "Johnson, Jr." > However, the report is then returning all the Johnsons in sequence, but > I only want 1 particular Johnson with his/her individual details. How do > I get the query to give me a list of "Johnsons," including first and > middle names, from which I can pick the right patient to plop into the > report? > > MTIA -- and please keep it simple, I'm not very advanced with Access > > > -- > Karen Rosenstiel > Seattle WA USA > -- > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > -- > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From max.wanadoo at gmail.com Mon Feb 25 12:30:26 2008 From: max.wanadoo at gmail.com (Max Wanadoo) Date: Mon, 25 Feb 2008 18:30:26 -0000 Subject: [AccessD] OT: Physics In-Reply-To: References: <29f585dd0802240838m78ee3303lde65ec1fcfd3485c@mail.gmail.com><000901c877cf$e5891100$8119fea9@LTVM> Message-ID: <002101c877dc$7f0825d0$8119fea9@LTVM> OK, I'll put you down for a Definite Maybe. Max -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Charlotte Foust Sent: Monday, February 25, 2008 5:46 PM To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving Subject: Re: [AccessD] OT: Physics I'm not sure about that! Charlotte -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Max Wanadoo Sent: Monday, February 25, 2008 9:00 AM To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' Subject: Re: [AccessD] OT: Physics Probably why we need a yes/no field to have a Triple State. Yes, No and Uncertain. Max -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Charlotte Foust Sent: Monday, February 25, 2008 4:30 PM To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving Subject: Re: [AccessD] OT: Physics But you aren't certain? LOL Charlotte Foust -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Arthur Fuller Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2008 8:38 AM To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving Subject: [AccessD] OT: Physics A silly Friday riddle, a couple of days late: Q. Who invented the Uncertainty Principle? A. Werner Heisenberg, I think. A. -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From wdhindman at dejpolsystems.com Mon Feb 25 13:31:33 2008 From: wdhindman at dejpolsystems.com (William Hindman) Date: Mon, 25 Feb 2008 14:31:33 -0500 Subject: [AccessD] OT: Physics References: <29f585dd0802240838m78ee3303lde65ec1fcfd3485c@mail.gmail.com><000901c877cf$e5891100$8119fea9@LTVM> <002101c877dc$7f0825d0$8119fea9@LTVM> Message-ID: <008601c877e5$0801f020$d67e6c4c@jisshowsbs.local> ...does that mean Charlotte has been nullified? William ----- Original Message ----- From: "Max Wanadoo" To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'" Sent: Monday, February 25, 2008 1:30 PM Subject: Re: [AccessD] OT: Physics > OK, I'll put you down for a Definite Maybe. > > Max > > > -----Original Message----- > From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Charlotte Foust > Sent: Monday, February 25, 2008 5:46 PM > To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving > Subject: Re: [AccessD] OT: Physics > > I'm not sure about that! > > Charlotte > > -----Original Message----- > From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Max Wanadoo > Sent: Monday, February 25, 2008 9:00 AM > To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' > Subject: Re: [AccessD] OT: Physics > > Probably why we need a yes/no field to have a Triple State. Yes, No and > Uncertain. > > Max > > > -----Original Message----- > From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Charlotte Foust > Sent: Monday, February 25, 2008 4:30 PM > To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving > Subject: Re: [AccessD] OT: Physics > > But you aren't certain? LOL > > Charlotte Foust > > -----Original Message----- > From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Arthur Fuller > Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2008 8:38 AM > To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving > Subject: [AccessD] OT: Physics > > A silly Friday riddle, a couple of days late: > > Q. Who invented the Uncertainty Principle? > A. Werner Heisenberg, I think. > > A. > -- > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > -- > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > -- > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > -- > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > -- > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > From cfoust at infostatsystems.com Mon Feb 25 13:46:14 2008 From: cfoust at infostatsystems.com (Charlotte Foust) Date: Mon, 25 Feb 2008 11:46:14 -0800 Subject: [AccessD] OT: Physics In-Reply-To: <008601c877e5$0801f020$d67e6c4c@jisshowsbs.local> References: <29f585dd0802240838m78ee3303lde65ec1fcfd3485c@mail.gmail.com><000901c877cf$e5891100$8119fea9@LTVM><002101c877dc$7f0825d0$8119fea9@LTVM> <008601c877e5$0801f020$d67e6c4c@jisshowsbs.local> Message-ID: I think NOT! Umm .... Charlotte -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of William Hindman Sent: Monday, February 25, 2008 11:32 AM To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving Subject: Re: [AccessD] OT: Physics ...does that mean Charlotte has been nullified? William ----- Original Message ----- From: "Max Wanadoo" To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'" Sent: Monday, February 25, 2008 1:30 PM Subject: Re: [AccessD] OT: Physics > OK, I'll put you down for a Definite Maybe. > > Max > > > -----Original Message----- > From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Charlotte Foust > Sent: Monday, February 25, 2008 5:46 PM > To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving > Subject: Re: [AccessD] OT: Physics > > I'm not sure about that! > > Charlotte > > -----Original Message----- > From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Max Wanadoo > Sent: Monday, February 25, 2008 9:00 AM > To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' > Subject: Re: [AccessD] OT: Physics > > Probably why we need a yes/no field to have a Triple State. Yes, No and > Uncertain. > > Max > > > -----Original Message----- > From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Charlotte Foust > Sent: Monday, February 25, 2008 4:30 PM > To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving > Subject: Re: [AccessD] OT: Physics > > But you aren't certain? LOL > > Charlotte Foust > > -----Original Message----- > From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Arthur Fuller > Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2008 8:38 AM > To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving > Subject: [AccessD] OT: Physics > > A silly Friday riddle, a couple of days late: > > Q. Who invented the Uncertainty Principle? > A. Werner Heisenberg, I think. > > A. > -- > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > -- > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > -- > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > -- > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > -- > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From wdhindman at dejpolsystems.com Mon Feb 25 14:01:07 2008 From: wdhindman at dejpolsystems.com (William Hindman) Date: Mon, 25 Feb 2008 15:01:07 -0500 Subject: [AccessD] (no subject) References: <022520081824.17371.47C307CA00028E05000043DB2216525806040A079B9C020A9C019D05@comcast.net> Message-ID: <009f01c877e9$2d71fef0$d67e6c4c@jisshowsbs.local> Karen ...sent you an old sample mdb off-list that shows you how to do this. William ----- Original Message ----- From: To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving" Sent: Monday, February 25, 2008 1:24 PM Subject: Re: [AccessD] (no subject) > Charlotte, > I specified that the criteria was on the Lname field in the query. > > Susan, Arthur and Mark suggested a popup form so I will play with that. > > Thanks all. > > -- > Karen Rosenstiel > Seattle WA USA > > -------------- Original message ---------------------- > From: "Charlotte Foust" >> You can't use like to get an exact match, except by accident. Are you >> doing this from a form? If so, a combobox populated with the "Like" >> results would allow the user to select the particular individual for the >> report. Unfortunately, if your data is keyed only on LName and FName, >> you won't be able to handle people with the same name. And comboboxes >> give you the first match, so the underlying value needs to be a >> concatenation of the first and lastname fields. If you are just looking >> at the results of a query, then you need to add a criteria "Like" >> expression under the FName field too, on the same line in the grid so >> that you create and And condition. >> >> We need more information about exactly what you're doing to advise you >> appropriately. >> >> Charlotte Foust >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com >> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of >> krosenstiel at comcast.net >> Sent: Monday, February 25, 2008 9:35 AM >> To: DBA-AccessD >> Subject: [AccessD] (no subject) >> >> >From a patient database in Access 2003, I want to pick the right >> patient for a report of individual details. I have fields Lname, Fname >> and Mname. In the query on the Lname field I have the following as the >> criteria: >> >> Like "*" & [Enter Last Name] & "*" >> >> This works fine to pick all the Johnsons, including "Johnson, Jr." >> However, the report is then returning all the Johnsons in sequence, but >> I only want 1 particular Johnson with his/her individual details. How do >> I get the query to give me a list of "Johnsons," including first and >> middle names, from which I can pick the right patient to plop into the >> report? >> >> MTIA -- and please keep it simple, I'm not very advanced with Access >> >> >> -- >> Karen Rosenstiel >> Seattle WA USA >> -- >> AccessD mailing list >> AccessD at databaseadvisors.com >> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd >> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com >> >> -- >> AccessD mailing list >> AccessD at databaseadvisors.com >> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd >> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > -- > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > From wdhindman at dejpolsystems.com Mon Feb 25 14:09:30 2008 From: wdhindman at dejpolsystems.com (William Hindman) Date: Mon, 25 Feb 2008 15:09:30 -0500 Subject: [AccessD] (no subject) References: <022520081734.4098.47C2FC3C0008B128000010022215553894040A079B9C020A9C019D05@comcast.net> <29f585dd0802250957i595ede6bk4b2653697295ad75@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <00a201c877ea$581c6e50$d67e6c4c@jisshowsbs.local> ...that means she has to possibly scroll through all the records ...use a LIKE filter to greatly narrow the list to quickly find the one she needs ...type in an F she gets all the Fs ...add an A and she gets all the FAs in a filtered list where she just clicks on the name she wants to open a single record form or report ...I've sent her a sample off list. William ----- Original Message ----- From: "Arthur Fuller" To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving" Sent: Monday, February 25, 2008 12:57 PM Subject: Re: [AccessD] (no subject) > My suggestion would be to skip the LIKE query and instead pop up a form > first, containing a combo box and two buttons (preview and cancel). Let's > call the combo-box Finder_cbo. First create a query called Patients_qs > whose > SQL is: > > SELECT PatientID, Lname & ", " & Fname & " " & Mname > FROM Patients > ORDER BY Lname, Fname, Mname > > Save this query as Patients_qs (suffix means query select). > > Create a form containing a combo box and a pair of buttons "Preview" and > "Cancel". use the wizard to create the buttons and for the former button, > choose Preview Report. Change the resulting code so its stCriteria string > looks like: > > stCriteria = "PatientID = " & Me.Finder_cbo > > Use the wizard to create the Cancel button and for its action just choose > Form | Close. > > Finally, instead of opening the report directly, open the form just > created > and it will handle the rest. > > hth, > Arthur > > On Mon, Feb 25, 2008 at 12:34 PM, wrote: > >> >From a patient database in Access 2003, I want to pick the right patient >> for a report of individual details. I have fields Lname, Fname and Mname. >> In >> the query on the Lname field I have the following as the criteria: >> >> Like "*" & [Enter Last Name] & "*" >> >> This works fine to pick all the Johnsons, including "Johnson, Jr." >> However, the report is then returning all the Johnsons in sequence, but I >> only want 1 particular Johnson with his/her individual details. How do I >> get >> the query to give me a list of "Johnsons," including first and middle >> names, >> from which I can pick the right patient to plop into the report? >> >> MTIA -- and please keep it simple, I'm not very advanced with Access >> >> >> -- >> Karen Rosenstiel >> Seattle WA USA >> -- >> AccessD mailing list >> AccessD at databaseadvisors.com >> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd >> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com >> > -- > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > From max.wanadoo at gmail.com Mon Feb 25 15:30:17 2008 From: max.wanadoo at gmail.com (Max Wanadoo) Date: Mon, 25 Feb 2008 21:30:17 -0000 Subject: [AccessD] OT: Physics In-Reply-To: References: <29f585dd0802240838m78ee3303lde65ec1fcfd3485c@mail.gmail.com><000901c877cf$e5891100$8119fea9@LTVM><002101c877dc$7f0825d0$8119fea9@LTVM><008601c877e5$0801f020$d67e6c4c@jisshowsbs.local> Message-ID: <001301c877f5$9eddd490$8119fea9@LTVM> Well that is a Positive answer, if only in the Negative. I was going to put you down for a Positive Maybe but now I will change it to Positively Negative. Max -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Charlotte Foust Sent: Monday, February 25, 2008 7:46 PM To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving Subject: Re: [AccessD] OT: Physics I think NOT! Umm .... Charlotte -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of William Hindman Sent: Monday, February 25, 2008 11:32 AM To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving Subject: Re: [AccessD] OT: Physics ...does that mean Charlotte has been nullified? William ----- Original Message ----- From: "Max Wanadoo" To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'" Sent: Monday, February 25, 2008 1:30 PM Subject: Re: [AccessD] OT: Physics > OK, I'll put you down for a Definite Maybe. > > Max > > > -----Original Message----- > From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Charlotte Foust > Sent: Monday, February 25, 2008 5:46 PM > To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving > Subject: Re: [AccessD] OT: Physics > > I'm not sure about that! > > Charlotte > > -----Original Message----- > From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Max Wanadoo > Sent: Monday, February 25, 2008 9:00 AM > To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' > Subject: Re: [AccessD] OT: Physics > > Probably why we need a yes/no field to have a Triple State. Yes, No and > Uncertain. > > Max > > > -----Original Message----- > From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Charlotte Foust > Sent: Monday, February 25, 2008 4:30 PM > To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving > Subject: Re: [AccessD] OT: Physics > > But you aren't certain? LOL > > Charlotte Foust > > -----Original Message----- > From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Arthur Fuller > Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2008 8:38 AM > To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving > Subject: [AccessD] OT: Physics > > A silly Friday riddle, a couple of days late: > > Q. Who invented the Uncertainty Principle? > A. Werner Heisenberg, I think. > > A. > -- > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > -- > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > -- > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > -- > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > -- > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From ssharkins at gmail.com Mon Feb 25 15:36:20 2008 From: ssharkins at gmail.com (Susan Harkins) Date: Mon, 25 Feb 2008 16:36:20 -0500 Subject: [AccessD] OT: Physics References: <29f585dd0802240838m78ee3303lde65ec1fcfd3485c@mail.gmail.com><000901c877cf$e5891100$8119fea9@LTVM><002101c877dc$7f0825d0$8119fea9@LTVM><008601c877e5$0801f020$d67e6c4c@jisshowsbs.local> <001301c877f5$9eddd490$8119fea9@LTVM> Message-ID: <054101c877f6$79d40f60$4b3a8343@SusanOne> Personally, I find Charlotte positively marvelous, but that's a different thread. ;) Susan H. > I was going to put you down for a Positive Maybe but now I will change it > to > Positively Negative. > > Max From andy at minstersystems.co.uk Mon Feb 25 15:49:51 2008 From: andy at minstersystems.co.uk (Andy Lacey) Date: Mon, 25 Feb 2008 21:49:51 -0000 Subject: [AccessD] OT: Physics In-Reply-To: <001301c877f5$9eddd490$8119fea9@LTVM> Message-ID: <000701c877f8$5a418fe0$ee8bd355@minster33c3r25> Enough already. Can we end this one please? -- Andy Lacey http://www.minstersystems.co.uk >-----Original Message----- >From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com >[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Max Wanadoo >Sent: 25 February 2008 21:30 >To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' >Subject: Re: [AccessD] OT: Physics > > >Well that is a Positive answer, if only in the Negative. > >I was going to put you down for a Positive Maybe but now I >will change it to Positively Negative. > >Max > > >-----Original Message----- >From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com >[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of >Charlotte Foust >Sent: Monday, February 25, 2008 7:46 PM >To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving >Subject: Re: [AccessD] OT: Physics > >I think NOT! Umm .... > >Charlotte > >-----Original Message----- >From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com >[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of >William Hindman >Sent: Monday, February 25, 2008 11:32 AM >To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving >Subject: Re: [AccessD] OT: Physics > >...does that mean Charlotte has been nullified? > >William > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Max Wanadoo" >To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'" > >Sent: Monday, February 25, 2008 1:30 PM >Subject: Re: [AccessD] OT: Physics > > >> OK, I'll put you down for a Definite Maybe. >> >> Max >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com >> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Charlotte >Foust >> Sent: Monday, February 25, 2008 5:46 PM >> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving >> Subject: Re: [AccessD] OT: Physics >> >> I'm not sure about that! >> >> Charlotte >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com >> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of >Max Wanadoo >> Sent: Monday, February 25, 2008 9:00 AM >> To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' >> Subject: Re: [AccessD] OT: Physics >> >> Probably why we need a yes/no field to have a Triple State. Yes, No >and >> Uncertain. >> >> Max >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com >> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Charlotte >Foust >> Sent: Monday, February 25, 2008 4:30 PM >> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving >> Subject: Re: [AccessD] OT: Physics >> >> But you aren't certain? LOL >> >> Charlotte Foust >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com >> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Arthur >Fuller >> Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2008 8:38 AM >> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving >> Subject: [AccessD] OT: Physics >> >> A silly Friday riddle, a couple of days late: >> >> Q. Who invented the Uncertainty Principle? >> A. Werner Heisenberg, I think. >> >> A. >> -- >> AccessD mailing list >> AccessD at databaseadvisors.com >> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd >> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com >> >> -- >> AccessD mailing list >> AccessD at databaseadvisors.com >> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd >> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com >> >> -- >> AccessD mailing list >> AccessD at databaseadvisors.com >> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd >> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com >> >> -- >> AccessD mailing list >> AccessD at databaseadvisors.com >> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd >> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com >> >> -- >> AccessD mailing list >> AccessD at databaseadvisors.com >> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd >> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com >> > > > >-- >AccessD mailing list >AccessD at databaseadvisors.com >http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd >Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > >-- >AccessD mailing list >AccessD at databaseadvisors.com >http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd >Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > >-- >AccessD mailing list >AccessD at databaseadvisors.com >http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd >Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > From max.wanadoo at gmail.com Mon Feb 25 15:50:09 2008 From: max.wanadoo at gmail.com (Max Wanadoo) Date: Mon, 25 Feb 2008 21:50:09 -0000 Subject: [AccessD] OT: Physics In-Reply-To: <054101c877f6$79d40f60$4b3a8343@SusanOne> References: <29f585dd0802240838m78ee3303lde65ec1fcfd3485c@mail.gmail.com><000901c877cf$e5891100$8119fea9@LTVM><002101c877dc$7f0825d0$8119fea9@LTVM><008601c877e5$0801f020$d67e6c4c@jisshowsbs.local><001301c877f5$9eddd490$8119fea9@LTVM> <054101c877f6$79d40f60$4b3a8343@SusanOne> Message-ID: <001a01c877f8$66d355e0$8119fea9@LTVM> Can't disagree with that! You too! enough already! BiBiBi - off to bed now. Max -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Susan Harkins Sent: Monday, February 25, 2008 9:36 PM To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving Subject: Re: [AccessD] OT: Physics Personally, I find Charlotte positively marvelous, but that's a different thread. ;) Susan H. > I was going to put you down for a Positive Maybe but now I will change > it to Positively Negative. > > Max -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From cfoust at infostatsystems.com Mon Feb 25 17:21:22 2008 From: cfoust at infostatsystems.com (Charlotte Foust) Date: Mon, 25 Feb 2008 15:21:22 -0800 Subject: [AccessD] OT: Physics In-Reply-To: <054101c877f6$79d40f60$4b3a8343@SusanOne> References: <29f585dd0802240838m78ee3303lde65ec1fcfd3485c@mail.gmail.com><000901c877cf$e5891100$8119fea9@LTVM><002101c877dc$7f0825d0$8119fea9@LTVM><008601c877e5$0801f020$d67e6c4c@jisshowsbs.local><001301c877f5$9eddd490$8119fea9@LTVM> <054101c877f6$79d40f60$4b3a8343@SusanOne> Message-ID: I think I like you too, Susan. Charlotte -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Susan Harkins Sent: Monday, February 25, 2008 1:36 PM To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving Subject: Re: [AccessD] OT: Physics Personally, I find Charlotte positively marvelous, but that's a different thread. ;) Susan H. > I was going to put you down for a Positive Maybe but now I will change > it to Positively Negative. > > Max -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From bbruen at unwired.com.au Mon Feb 25 21:53:54 2008 From: bbruen at unwired.com.au (Bruce Bruen) Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2008 14:53:54 +1100 Subject: [AccessD] OT: Physics In-Reply-To: <054101c877f6$79d40f60$4b3a8343@SusanOne> References: <29f585dd0802240838m78ee3303lde65ec1fcfd3485c@mail.gmail.com> <001301c877f5$9eddd490$8119fea9@LTVM> <054101c877f6$79d40f60$4b3a8343@SusanOne> Message-ID: <200802261453.55318.bbruen@unwired.com.au> Regardless of anything above. The principal of uncertainty and a fine principal it is too, I'm going to paraphase (why not everyone else does?) as "You may know where you are or you may know how fast you're going .. but if you're 'HERE' today, then neither he, she nor Hecuba will know today, where you're gonna be tomorrow" Agnosticism rules - hey! -- regards Bruce From andy at minstersystems.co.uk Tue Feb 26 01:09:10 2008 From: andy at minstersystems.co.uk (Andy Lacey) Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2008 07:09:10 -0000 Subject: [AccessD] OT: Physics - STOP In-Reply-To: <200802261453.55318.bbruen@unwired.com.au> Message-ID: <002101c87846$7c5c5990$ee8bd355@minster33c3r25> As I said nicely, can we please end this thread. -- Andy Lacey http://www.minstersystems.co.uk >-----Original Message----- >From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com >[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Bruce Bruen >Sent: 26 February 2008 03:54 >To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving >Subject: Re: [AccessD] OT: Physics > > >Regardless of anything above. > >The principal of uncertainty and a fine principal it is too, >I'm going to >paraphase (why not everyone else does?) as "You may know where >you are or you >may know how fast you're going .. but if you're 'HERE' today, >then neither >he, she nor Hecuba will know today, where you're gonna be tomorrow" > >Agnosticism rules - hey! > > >-- >regards > >Bruce >-- >AccessD mailing list >AccessD at databaseadvisors.com >http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd >Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com Tue Feb 26 10:58:18 2008 From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (jwcolby) Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2008 11:58:18 -0500 Subject: [AccessD] Alter table Message-ID: <032901c87898$ca792c00$0401a8c0@M90> Is it possible to use the "IN databasename" syntax in an ALTER TABLE SQL statement in Access? I have written code to dynamically alter a table (add a field of a given type) in an Access database table. I wanted to do that so that I could have my code "slip in" new fields in the brief periods that a table is not in use, rather than have to wait until the evening to get the table into the table. It seems to work if executed directly in the BE itself but I get a SQL syntax error if I try to use the "IN DatabaseName" stuff from another FE. John W. Colby Colby Consulting www.ColbyConsulting.com From fuller.artful at gmail.com Tue Feb 26 11:05:00 2008 From: fuller.artful at gmail.com (Arthur Fuller) Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2008 12:05:00 -0500 Subject: [AccessD] Control a subform's capabilities with outside procedures Message-ID: <29f585dd0802260905l3a368680o9614117c6cba4455@mail.gmail.com> I have a switchboard that contains a subform which contains the data the user always wants to see. The form is set to allow neither edits nor additions. Switchboard items are supposed to control that. The subform is never open by itself, only as a subform on the switchboard. I'm having trouble formulating the syntax. It's something like: Sub Sites_AllowEdits() Forms("Switchboard") .AllowEdits = True End Sub And similarly for the AllowAdditons procedure, except it will need a pair of commands, one to AllowAdditions and the other to GoToNewRecord. I always forget this syntax! TIA, Arthur From fuller.artful at gmail.com Tue Feb 26 11:26:11 2008 From: fuller.artful at gmail.com (Arthur Fuller) Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2008 12:26:11 -0500 Subject: [AccessD] Alter table In-Reply-To: <032901c87898$ca792c00$0401a8c0@M90> References: <032901c87898$ca792c00$0401a8c0@M90> Message-ID: <29f585dd0802260926j31b3e111n1d2b8204d434eaf@mail.gmail.com> Presumably you have a link to that table in your FE. I've never tried this, but why not just proceed with the ALTER TABLE without the IN reference and see what happens? A. On 2/26/08, jwcolby wrote: > > Is it possible to use the "IN databasename" syntax in an ALTER TABLE SQL > statement in Access? > > I have written code to dynamically alter a table (add a field of a given > type) in an Access database table. I wanted to do that so that I could > have > my code "slip in" new fields in the brief periods that a table is not in > use, rather than have to wait until the evening to get the table into the > table. It seems to work if executed directly in the BE itself but I get a > SQL syntax error if I try to use the "IN DatabaseName" stuff from another > FE. > > From mmattys at rochester.rr.com Tue Feb 26 11:30:51 2008 From: mmattys at rochester.rr.com (Michael R Mattys) Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2008 12:30:51 -0500 Subject: [AccessD] Alter table References: <032901c87898$ca792c00$0401a8c0@M90> Message-ID: <00cb01c8789d$56136790$0202a8c0@Laptop> Hi John, I couldn't get it to work either. My guess is that DDL must only work on the currentdb. Michael R. Mattys MapPoint & Access Dev www.mattysconsulting.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "jwcolby" To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'" Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2008 11:58 AM Subject: [AccessD] Alter table > Is it possible to use the "IN databasename" syntax in an ALTER TABLE SQL > statement in Access? > > I have written code to dynamically alter a table (add a field of a given > type) in an Access database table. I wanted to do that so that I could > have > my code "slip in" new fields in the brief periods that a table is not in > use, rather than have to wait until the evening to get the table into the > table. It seems to work if executed directly in the BE itself but I get a > SQL syntax error if I try to use the "IN DatabaseName" stuff from another > FE. > > John W. Colby > Colby Consulting > www.ColbyConsulting.com > > -- > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com Tue Feb 26 11:55:06 2008 From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (jwcolby) Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2008 12:55:06 -0500 Subject: [AccessD] Alter table In-Reply-To: <00cb01c8789d$56136790$0202a8c0@Laptop> References: <032901c87898$ca792c00$0401a8c0@M90> <00cb01c8789d$56136790$0202a8c0@Laptop> Message-ID: <033201c878a0$b8c8d890$0401a8c0@M90> I am going to try opening the BE and getting a DAO db pointer to that db, then using that DB pointer to execute the SQL. John W. Colby Colby Consulting www.ColbyConsulting.com -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Michael R Mattys Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2008 12:31 PM To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving Subject: Re: [AccessD] Alter table Hi John, I couldn't get it to work either. My guess is that DDL must only work on the currentdb. Michael R. Mattys MapPoint & Access Dev www.mattysconsulting.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "jwcolby" To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'" Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2008 11:58 AM Subject: [AccessD] Alter table > Is it possible to use the "IN databasename" syntax in an ALTER TABLE SQL > statement in Access? > > I have written code to dynamically alter a table (add a field of a given > type) in an Access database table. I wanted to do that so that I could > have > my code "slip in" new fields in the brief periods that a table is not in > use, rather than have to wait until the evening to get the table into the > table. It seems to work if executed directly in the BE itself but I get a > SQL syntax error if I try to use the "IN DatabaseName" stuff from another > FE. > > John W. Colby > Colby Consulting > www.ColbyConsulting.com > > -- > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From miscellany at mvps.org Tue Feb 26 12:18:05 2008 From: miscellany at mvps.org (Steve Schapel) Date: Wed, 27 Feb 2008 07:18:05 +1300 Subject: [AccessD] Alter table In-Reply-To: <032901c87898$ca792c00$0401a8c0@M90> References: <032901c87898$ca792c00$0401a8c0@M90> Message-ID: <47C457DD.9070208@mvps.org> John, No, that won't work. But you can do it like this: Dim dbs AS Database Set dbs = OpenDatabase("") dbs.Execute "ALTER TABLE ... ADD COLUMN ..." dbs.Close Regards Steve jwcolby wrote: > Is it possible to use the "IN databasename" syntax in an ALTER TABLE SQL > statement in Access? > > I have written code to dynamically alter a table (add a field of a given > type) in an Access database table. I wanted to do that so that I could have > my code "slip in" new fields in the brief periods that a table is not in > use, rather than have to wait until the evening to get the table into the > table. It seems to work if executed directly in the BE itself but I get a > SQL syntax error if I try to use the "IN DatabaseName" stuff from another > FE. > > John W. Colby > Colby Consulting > www.ColbyConsulting.com > From cfoust at infostatsystems.com Tue Feb 26 12:23:40 2008 From: cfoust at infostatsystems.com (Charlotte Foust) Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2008 10:23:40 -0800 Subject: [AccessD] Control a subform's capabilities with outside procedures In-Reply-To: <29f585dd0802260905l3a368680o9614117c6cba4455@mail.gmail.com> References: <29f585dd0802260905l3a368680o9614117c6cba4455@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: If you're doing this from the switchboard, Me.mySubform.form.AllowEdits = True Charlotte Foust -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Arthur Fuller Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2008 9:05 AM To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving Subject: [AccessD] Control a subform's capabilities with outside procedures I have a switchboard that contains a subform which contains the data the user always wants to see. The form is set to allow neither edits nor additions. Switchboard items are supposed to control that. The subform is never open by itself, only as a subform on the switchboard. I'm having trouble formulating the syntax. It's something like: Sub Sites_AllowEdits() Forms("Switchboard") .AllowEdits = True End Sub And similarly for the AllowAdditons procedure, except it will need a pair of commands, one to AllowAdditions and the other to GoToNewRecord. I always forget this syntax! TIA, Arthur -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com Tue Feb 26 12:52:16 2008 From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (jwcolby) Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2008 13:52:16 -0500 Subject: [AccessD] Alter table In-Reply-To: <47C457DD.9070208@mvps.org> References: <032901c87898$ca792c00$0401a8c0@M90> <47C457DD.9070208@mvps.org> Message-ID: <033701c878a8$b5728800$0401a8c0@M90> That was my next thing to try. Thanks, John W. Colby Colby Consulting www.ColbyConsulting.com -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Steve Schapel Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2008 1:18 PM To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving Subject: Re: [AccessD] Alter table John, No, that won't work. But you can do it like this: Dim dbs AS Database Set dbs = OpenDatabase("") dbs.Execute "ALTER TABLE ... ADD COLUMN ..." dbs.Close Regards Steve jwcolby wrote: > Is it possible to use the "IN databasename" syntax in an ALTER TABLE > SQL statement in Access? > > I have written code to dynamically alter a table (add a field of a > given > type) in an Access database table. I wanted to do that so that I > could have my code "slip in" new fields in the brief periods that a > table is not in use, rather than have to wait until the evening to get > the table into the table. It seems to work if executed directly in > the BE itself but I get a SQL syntax error if I try to use the "IN > DatabaseName" stuff from another FE. > > John W. Colby > Colby Consulting > www.ColbyConsulting.com > -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From miscellany at mvps.org Tue Feb 26 13:53:05 2008 From: miscellany at mvps.org (Steve Schapel) Date: Wed, 27 Feb 2008 08:53:05 +1300 Subject: [AccessD] Alter table In-Reply-To: <033701c878a8$b5728800$0401a8c0@M90> References: <032901c87898$ca792c00$0401a8c0@M90> <47C457DD.9070208@mvps.org> <033701c878a8$b5728800$0401a8c0@M90> Message-ID: <47C46E21.4050107@mvps.org> John, I would more often not use DDL, because there are some things youcan't do, such as modify field properties. Therefore, this would be another possible approach: Dim dbs As Database Dim tdf As DAO.TableDef Set dbs = OpenDatabase("") Set tdf = dbs.TableDefs("YourTable") With tdf .Fields.Append .CreateField("SomeField", dbText, 10) .Fields("SomeField").AllowZeroLength = False .Fields("SomeField").DefaultValue = "fred" End With dbs.Close Set tdf = Nothing Set dbs = Nothing Regards Steve jwcolby wrote: > That was my next thing to try. > From fuller.artful at gmail.com Tue Feb 26 16:21:57 2008 From: fuller.artful at gmail.com (Arthur Fuller) Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2008 17:21:57 -0500 Subject: [AccessD] Control a subform's capabilities with outside procedures In-Reply-To: References: <29f585dd0802260905l3a368680o9614117c6cba4455@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <29f585dd0802261421k62b936adv5d0d2b6cc74d0365@mail.gmail.com> Thanks Charlotte. On 2/26/08, Charlotte Foust wrote: > > If you're doing this from the switchboard, > > Me.mySubform.form.AllowEdits = True > > From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com Wed Feb 27 09:46:08 2008 From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (jwcolby) Date: Wed, 27 Feb 2008 10:46:08 -0500 Subject: [AccessD] Arthur is famous again Message-ID: <036401c87957$df154d50$0401a8c0@M90> I just saw this in one of the many newsletters that I subscribe to. http://www.simple-talk.com/sql/sql-tools/the-database-from-hell/ John W. Colby Colby Consulting www.ColbyConsulting.com From EdTesiny at oasas.state.ny.us Wed Feb 27 10:24:30 2008 From: EdTesiny at oasas.state.ny.us (Tesiny, Ed) Date: Wed, 27 Feb 2008 11:24:30 -0500 Subject: [AccessD] Arthur is famous again In-Reply-To: <036401c87957$df154d50$0401a8c0@M90> References: <036401c87957$df154d50$0401a8c0@M90> Message-ID: Anyone able to hit the link, I think the server may be down... Ed Tesiny EdTesiny at oasas.state.ny.us > -----Original Message----- > From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of jwcolby > Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2008 10:46 AM > To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'; > 'Discussion concerning MS SQL Server' > Subject: [AccessD] Arthur is famous again > > I just saw this in one of the many newsletters that I subscribe to. > > http://www.simple-talk.com/sql/sql-tools/the-database-from-hell/ > > > > John W. Colby > Colby Consulting > www.ColbyConsulting.com > > -- > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > From cfoust at infostatsystems.com Wed Feb 27 10:28:07 2008 From: cfoust at infostatsystems.com (Charlotte Foust) Date: Wed, 27 Feb 2008 08:28:07 -0800 Subject: [AccessD] Arthur is famous again In-Reply-To: <036401c87957$df154d50$0401a8c0@M90> References: <036401c87957$df154d50$0401a8c0@M90> Message-ID: Yes, but he couldn't have done it without you, John! LOL Charlotte Foust -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of jwcolby Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2008 7:46 AM To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'; 'Discussion concerning MS SQL Server' Subject: [AccessD] Arthur is famous again I just saw this in one of the many newsletters that I subscribe to. http://www.simple-talk.com/sql/sql-tools/the-database-from-hell/ John W. Colby Colby Consulting www.ColbyConsulting.com From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com Wed Feb 27 10:31:50 2008 From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (jwcolby) Date: Wed, 27 Feb 2008 11:31:50 -0500 Subject: [AccessD] Arthur is famous again In-Reply-To: References: <036401c87957$df154d50$0401a8c0@M90> Message-ID: <036901c8795e$41dc9140$0401a8c0@M90> I am seeing it. Maybe your email server thinks it is a spam and is trashing it. Poor Arthur, black listed AGAIN. ;-) John W. Colby Colby Consulting www.ColbyConsulting.com -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Tesiny, Ed Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2008 11:24 AM To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving Subject: Re: [AccessD] Arthur is famous again Anyone able to hit the link, I think the server may be down... Ed Tesiny EdTesiny at oasas.state.ny.us > -----Original Message----- > From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of jwcolby > Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2008 10:46 AM > To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'; 'Discussion > concerning MS SQL Server' > Subject: [AccessD] Arthur is famous again > > I just saw this in one of the many newsletters that I subscribe to. > > http://www.simple-talk.com/sql/sql-tools/the-database-from-hell/ > > > > John W. Colby > Colby Consulting > www.ColbyConsulting.com > > -- > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com Wed Feb 27 10:41:14 2008 From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (jwcolby) Date: Wed, 27 Feb 2008 11:41:14 -0500 Subject: [AccessD] Arthur is famous again In-Reply-To: References: <036401c87957$df154d50$0401a8c0@M90> Message-ID: <036a01c8795f$918c3c80$0401a8c0@M90> Ahh not true. The problem came from me but Arthur did a ton of research on how to attack the problem, as well as a ton of playing with the tool. BTW, good job Arthur. John W. Colby Colby Consulting www.ColbyConsulting.com -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Charlotte Foust Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2008 11:28 AM To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving Subject: Re: [AccessD] Arthur is famous again Yes, but he couldn't have done it without you, John! LOL Charlotte Foust -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of jwcolby Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2008 7:46 AM To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'; 'Discussion concerning MS SQL Server' Subject: [AccessD] Arthur is famous again I just saw this in one of the many newsletters that I subscribe to. http://www.simple-talk.com/sql/sql-tools/the-database-from-hell/ John W. Colby Colby Consulting www.ColbyConsulting.com -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From cfoust at infostatsystems.com Wed Feb 27 10:54:49 2008 From: cfoust at infostatsystems.com (Charlotte Foust) Date: Wed, 27 Feb 2008 08:54:49 -0800 Subject: [AccessD] Arthur is famous again In-Reply-To: <036a01c8795f$918c3c80$0401a8c0@M90> References: <036401c87957$df154d50$0401a8c0@M90> <036a01c8795f$918c3c80$0401a8c0@M90> Message-ID: Maybe, but we all know how good you are at causing problems. Charlotte -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of jwcolby Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2008 8:41 AM To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' Subject: Re: [AccessD] Arthur is famous again Ahh not true. The problem came from me but Arthur did a ton of research on how to attack the problem, as well as a ton of playing with the tool. BTW, good job Arthur. John W. Colby Colby Consulting www.ColbyConsulting.com -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Charlotte Foust Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2008 11:28 AM To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving Subject: Re: [AccessD] Arthur is famous again Yes, but he couldn't have done it without you, John! LOL Charlotte Foust From cfoust at infostatsystems.com Wed Feb 27 10:55:17 2008 From: cfoust at infostatsystems.com (Charlotte Foust) Date: Wed, 27 Feb 2008 08:55:17 -0800 Subject: [AccessD] Arthur is famous again In-Reply-To: References: <036401c87957$df154d50$0401a8c0@M90> Message-ID: I didn't have any problem getting to it. Charlotte Foust -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Tesiny, Ed Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2008 8:24 AM To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving Subject: Re: [AccessD] Arthur is famous again Anyone able to hit the link, I think the server may be down... Ed Tesiny EdTesiny at oasas.state.ny.us > -----Original Message----- > From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of jwcolby > Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2008 10:46 AM > To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'; 'Discussion > concerning MS SQL Server' > Subject: [AccessD] Arthur is famous again > > I just saw this in one of the many newsletters that I subscribe to. > > http://www.simple-talk.com/sql/sql-tools/the-database-from-hell/ > > > > John W. Colby > Colby Consulting > www.ColbyConsulting.com > From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com Wed Feb 27 11:27:08 2008 From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (jwcolby) Date: Wed, 27 Feb 2008 12:27:08 -0500 Subject: [AccessD] Arthur is famous again In-Reply-To: References: <036401c87957$df154d50$0401a8c0@M90><036a01c8795f$918c3c80$0401a8c0@M90> Message-ID: <037601c87965$fb4881f0$0401a8c0@M90> LOL, that is a subject for another time. John W. Colby Colby Consulting www.ColbyConsulting.com -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Charlotte Foust Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2008 11:55 AM To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving Subject: Re: [AccessD] Arthur is famous again Maybe, but we all know how good you are at causing problems. Charlotte -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of jwcolby Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2008 8:41 AM To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' Subject: Re: [AccessD] Arthur is famous again Ahh not true. The problem came from me but Arthur did a ton of research on how to attack the problem, as well as a ton of playing with the tool. BTW, good job Arthur. John W. Colby Colby Consulting www.ColbyConsulting.com -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Charlotte Foust Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2008 11:28 AM To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving Subject: Re: [AccessD] Arthur is famous again Yes, but he couldn't have done it without you, John! LOL Charlotte Foust -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From wdhindman at dejpolsystems.com Wed Feb 27 11:37:51 2008 From: wdhindman at dejpolsystems.com (William Hindman) Date: Wed, 27 Feb 2008 12:37:51 -0500 Subject: [AccessD] Arthur is famous again References: <036401c87957$df154d50$0401a8c0@M90><036a01c8795f$918c3c80$0401a8c0@M90> <037601c87965$fb4881f0$0401a8c0@M90> Message-ID: <002601c87967$7a74b380$d67e6c4c@jisshowsbs.local> ...its a subject for all times! :))) William ----- Original Message ----- From: "jwcolby" To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'" Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2008 12:27 PM Subject: Re: [AccessD] Arthur is famous again > LOL, that is a subject for another time. > > > John W. Colby > Colby Consulting > www.ColbyConsulting.com > -----Original Message----- > From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Charlotte Foust > Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2008 11:55 AM > To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving > Subject: Re: [AccessD] Arthur is famous again > > Maybe, but we all know how good you are at causing problems. > > Charlotte > > -----Original Message----- > From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of jwcolby > Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2008 8:41 AM > To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' > Subject: Re: [AccessD] Arthur is famous again > > Ahh not true. The problem came from me but Arthur did a ton of research > on > how to attack the problem, as well as a ton of playing with the tool. > > > BTW, good job Arthur. > > John W. Colby > Colby Consulting > www.ColbyConsulting.com > -----Original Message----- > From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Charlotte Foust > Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2008 11:28 AM > To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving > Subject: Re: [AccessD] Arthur is famous again > > Yes, but he couldn't have done it without you, John! LOL > > Charlotte Foust > > > -- > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > -- > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > From EdTesiny at oasas.state.ny.us Wed Feb 27 11:57:58 2008 From: EdTesiny at oasas.state.ny.us (Tesiny, Ed) Date: Wed, 27 Feb 2008 12:57:58 -0500 Subject: [AccessD] Arthur is famous again In-Reply-To: References: <036401c87957$df154d50$0401a8c0@M90> Message-ID: Got it, just had to copy the url into the browser, link didn't work. Ed Tesiny EdTesiny at oasas.state.ny.us > -----Original Message----- > From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of > Charlotte Foust > Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2008 11:55 AM > To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving > Subject: Re: [AccessD] Arthur is famous again > > I didn't have any problem getting to it. > > Charlotte Foust > > -----Original Message----- > From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Tesiny, Ed > Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2008 8:24 AM > To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving > Subject: Re: [AccessD] Arthur is famous again > > Anyone able to hit the link, I think the server may be down... > > Ed Tesiny > EdTesiny at oasas.state.ny.us > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > > [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of jwcolby > > Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2008 10:46 AM > > To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'; 'Discussion > > concerning MS SQL Server' > > Subject: [AccessD] Arthur is famous again > > > > I just saw this in one of the many newsletters that I subscribe to. > > > > http://www.simple-talk.com/sql/sql-tools/the-database-from-hell/ > > > > > > > > John W. Colby > > Colby Consulting > > www.ColbyConsulting.com > > > > -- > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com Wed Feb 27 11:58:22 2008 From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (jwcolby) Date: Wed, 27 Feb 2008 12:58:22 -0500 Subject: [AccessD] Arthur is famous again In-Reply-To: <002601c87967$7a74b380$d67e6c4c@jisshowsbs.local> References: <036401c87957$df154d50$0401a8c0@M90><036a01c8795f$918c3c80$0401a8c0@M90><037601c87965$fb4881f0$0401a8c0@M90> <002601c87967$7a74b380$d67e6c4c@jisshowsbs.local> Message-ID: <037e01c8796a$58784370$0401a8c0@M90> Personally I don't think there is enough time for that subject. 8-0 John W. Colby Colby Consulting www.ColbyConsulting.com -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of William Hindman Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2008 12:38 PM To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving Subject: Re: [AccessD] Arthur is famous again ...its a subject for all times! :))) William ----- Original Message ----- From: "jwcolby" To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'" Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2008 12:27 PM Subject: Re: [AccessD] Arthur is famous again > LOL, that is a subject for another time. > > > John W. Colby > Colby Consulting > www.ColbyConsulting.com > -----Original Message----- > From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Charlotte Foust > Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2008 11:55 AM > To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving > Subject: Re: [AccessD] Arthur is famous again > > Maybe, but we all know how good you are at causing problems. > > Charlotte From wdhindman at dejpolsystems.com Wed Feb 27 12:12:49 2008 From: wdhindman at dejpolsystems.com (William Hindman) Date: Wed, 27 Feb 2008 13:12:49 -0500 Subject: [AccessD] Arthur is famous again References: <036401c87957$df154d50$0401a8c0@M90><036a01c8795f$918c3c80$0401a8c0@M90><037601c87965$fb4881f0$0401a8c0@M90><002601c87967$7a74b380$d67e6c4c@jisshowsbs.local> <037e01c8796a$58784370$0401a8c0@M90> Message-ID: <005301c8796c$5d236a10$d67e6c4c@jisshowsbs.local> ...certainly not before Andy steps in! :) William ----- Original Message ----- From: "jwcolby" To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'" Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2008 12:58 PM Subject: Re: [AccessD] Arthur is famous again > Personally I don't think there is enough time for that subject. 8-0 > > > John W. Colby > Colby Consulting > www.ColbyConsulting.com > -----Original Message----- > From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of William Hindman > Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2008 12:38 PM > To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving > Subject: Re: [AccessD] Arthur is famous again > > ...its a subject for all times! :))) > > William > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "jwcolby" > To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'" > > Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2008 12:27 PM > Subject: Re: [AccessD] Arthur is famous again > > >> LOL, that is a subject for another time. >> >> >> John W. Colby >> Colby Consulting >> www.ColbyConsulting.com >> -----Original Message----- >> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com >> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Charlotte >> Foust >> Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2008 11:55 AM >> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving >> Subject: Re: [AccessD] Arthur is famous again >> >> Maybe, but we all know how good you are at causing problems. >> >> Charlotte > > -- > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > From jimdettman at verizon.net Wed Feb 27 13:51:07 2008 From: jimdettman at verizon.net (Jim Dettman) Date: Wed, 27 Feb 2008 14:51:07 -0500 Subject: [AccessD] Access 2000/2003 Message-ID: <001801c8797a$197e55a0$8abea8c0@XPS> All, Just an update on that printing issue I had last week; definitely Access 2003. I installed A2000 on the same machine and without doing anything other then pointing two shortcuts to the two different .EXE's, got correct results with A2000 and incorrect with A2003. I did BTW poke around the net and saw various posts with the same problem, but it doesn't appear there is a fix for it. Which brings me to the next point; anyone had any problems with installing A2000 after A2003? The first box I tested this on is a Win 2003 server and now a lot of my apps are bombing out with application errors. I'm getting a dialog that says "DDE Server Window:MSACCESS.EXE - Application Error" "The instruction at 0x3004567a" referenced memory at "0x0000008C". The memory could not be "read". It's always the same instruction and memory address and this is happening across multiple Access apps, all of which are running out of task scheduler. Not sure if it's related to that or not. In the past, I have seen Access apps finish in task scheduler with a last result of c0000005, but never pop an error like this. Other then that, everything is fine and running these manually I don't see an error. I did try setting these up executing as batch files called from Task Scheduler rather then a straight call to MSACCESS.EXE, but it didn't make any difference. I'd like to get this squared away before I move on to the other stations and servers. Anyone have any thoughts on installing A2000 behind A2003 and/or problems with Task Scheduler? TIA, Jim. From jimdettman at verizon.net Wed Feb 27 14:23:48 2008 From: jimdettman at verizon.net (Jim Dettman) Date: Wed, 27 Feb 2008 15:23:48 -0500 Subject: [AccessD] Access 2000/2003 In-Reply-To: <001801c8797a$197e55a0$8abea8c0@XPS> References: <001801c8797a$197e55a0$8abea8c0@XPS> Message-ID: <006101c8797e$a9987400$8abea8c0@XPS> BTW, should have made it clear that I installed A2000 to a separate directory and A2003 is still on the machine. Jim. -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim Dettman Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2008 2:51 PM To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' Subject: [AccessD] Access 2000/2003 All, Just an update on that printing issue I had last week; definitely Access 2003. I installed A2000 on the same machine and without doing anything other then pointing two shortcuts to the two different .EXE's, got correct results with A2000 and incorrect with A2003. I did BTW poke around the net and saw various posts with the same problem, but it doesn't appear there is a fix for it. Which brings me to the next point; anyone had any problems with installing A2000 after A2003? The first box I tested this on is a Win 2003 server and now a lot of my apps are bombing out with application errors. I'm getting a dialog that says "DDE Server Window:MSACCESS.EXE - Application Error" "The instruction at 0x3004567a" referenced memory at "0x0000008C". The memory could not be "read". It's always the same instruction and memory address and this is happening across multiple Access apps, all of which are running out of task scheduler. Not sure if it's related to that or not. In the past, I have seen Access apps finish in task scheduler with a last result of c0000005, but never pop an error like this. Other then that, everything is fine and running these manually I don't see an error. I did try setting these up executing as batch files called from Task Scheduler rather then a straight call to MSACCESS.EXE, but it didn't make any difference. I'd like to get this squared away before I move on to the other stations and servers. Anyone have any thoughts on installing A2000 behind A2003 and/or problems with Task Scheduler? TIA, Jim. -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From ebarro at verizon.net Wed Feb 27 14:49:01 2008 From: ebarro at verizon.net (ebarro at verizon.net) Date: Wed, 27 Feb 2008 14:49:01 -0600 (CST) Subject: [AccessD] Access 2000/2003 Message-ID: <12575913.681571204145341932.JavaMail.root@vms074.mailsrvcs.net> Jim, Check permissions on the app. For the task scheduler check what credentials are being used to run it under. When you run it manually you are using your login credentials. Is it the same as the credentials used by running it in Task Scheduler? Eric From DWUTKA at Marlow.com Wed Feb 27 15:08:41 2008 From: DWUTKA at Marlow.com (Drew Wutka) Date: Wed, 27 Feb 2008 15:08:41 -0600 Subject: [AccessD] Access 2000/2003 In-Reply-To: <12575913.681571204145341932.JavaMail.root@vms074.mailsrvcs.net> Message-ID: Depends, when you run something with the task scheduler, you should have the option to 'run as' with a specific account. Otherwise, it probably runs under the local system account. Drew -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of ebarro at verizon.net Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2008 2:49 PM To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: [AccessD] Access 2000/2003 Jim, Check permissions on the app. For the task scheduler check what credentials are being used to run it under. When you run it manually you are using your login credentials. Is it the same as the credentials used by running it in Task Scheduler? Eric -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com The information contained in this transmission is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain II-VI Proprietary and/or II-VI Business Sensitive material. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender immediately and destroy the material in its entirety, whether electronic or hard copy. You are notified that any review, retransmission, copying, disclosure, dissemination, or other use of, or taking of any action in reliance upon this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient is prohibited. From Darryl.Collins at coles.com.au Wed Feb 27 21:41:10 2008 From: Darryl.Collins at coles.com.au (Darryl Collins) Date: Thu, 28 Feb 2008 14:41:10 +1100 Subject: [AccessD] 'Cascade' within a single combo box... Message-ID: <49DFE57FB126044B8A8B934E7AEA09ED09FD6FBB@WPEXCH05.colesmyer.ad.cmltd.net.au> Hey all, This is probably easy (i sure hope so) but I am having a brain freeze today. I have a continuous form with a combo box on it. Ideally when the user chooses one option form the combo box the next box should only have available the remaining options (less the one chosen) etc etc - similar to having casading combo boxes (only I just want the one). Actually, this could be set up all wrong using a continuous form when I think about it. Is this possible to do, and am I approaching this the correct way? (I suspect not). regards Darryl. -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Drew Wutka Sent: Thursday, 28 February 2008 8:09 AM To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving Subject: Re: [AccessD] Access 2000/2003 Depends, when you run something with the task scheduler, you should have the option to 'run as' with a specific account. Otherwise, it probably runs under the local system account. Drew -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of ebarro at verizon.net Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2008 2:49 PM To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: [AccessD] Access 2000/2003 Jim, Check permissions on the app. For the task scheduler check what credentials are being used to run it under. When you run it manually you are using your login credentials. Is it the same as the credentials used by running it in Task Scheduler? Eric -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com The information contained in this transmission is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain II-VI Proprietary and/or II-VI Business Sensitive material. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender immediately and destroy the material in its entirety, whether electronic or hard copy. 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The sender's entire liability will be limited to resupplying the material. From kp at sdsonline.net Wed Feb 27 22:09:00 2008 From: kp at sdsonline.net (Kath Pelletti) Date: Thu, 28 Feb 2008 15:09:00 +1100 Subject: [AccessD] 'Cascade' within a single combo box... References: <49DFE57FB126044B8A8B934E7AEA09ED09FD6FBB@WPEXCH05.colesmyer.ad.cmltd.net.au> Message-ID: <003101c879bf$a6a1dfc0$6401a8c0@DELLAPTOP> Darryl - I don't think the answer is going to be simple.....but I think others on the list have done this by having an unbound combo for your second combo box. Initially it has a row source set which includes all 'valid' options, but on change of your first combo, the row source of the your second (variable unbound) combo changes to all remaining options minus the one selected, as you say. Once a selection from your unbound combo has been made (after update) you bind that value in code to the field. (The second combo has to be unbound because if you keep it bound your other recs on the continuous form will be temporarily invalidated....) There have been some posts on this topic a while back - if you can't find them in the archive I can fwd a couple of relevant ones to you offline... hth Kath ----- Original Message ----- From: "Darryl Collins" To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving" Sent: Thursday, February 28, 2008 2:41 PM Subject: [AccessD] 'Cascade' within a single combo box... > Hey all, > > This is probably easy (i sure hope so) but I am having a brain freeze > today. I have a continuous form with a combo box on it. Ideally when the > user chooses one option form the combo box the next box should only have > available the remaining options (less the one chosen) etc etc - similar to > having casading combo boxes (only I just want the one). > > Actually, this could be set up all wrong using a continuous form when I > think about it. > > Is this possible to do, and am I approaching this the correct way? (I > suspect not). > > regards > Darryl. > > -----Original Message----- > From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Drew Wutka > Sent: Thursday, 28 February 2008 8:09 AM > To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving > Subject: Re: [AccessD] Access 2000/2003 > > > Depends, when you run something with the task scheduler, you should have > the option to 'run as' with a specific account. Otherwise, it probably > runs under the local system account. > > Drew > > -----Original Message----- > From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of > ebarro at verizon.net > Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2008 2:49 PM > To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com > Subject: [AccessD] Access 2000/2003 > > Jim, > > Check permissions on the app. For the task scheduler check what > credentials are being used to run it under. When you run it manually you > are using your login credentials. Is it the same as the credentials used > by running it in Task Scheduler? > > Eric > -- > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > The information contained in this transmission is intended only for the > person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain II-VI > Proprietary and/or II-VI Business Sensitive material. If you are not the > intended recipient, please contact the sender immediately and destroy the > material in its entirety, whether electronic or hard copy. You are > notified that any review, retransmission, copying, disclosure, > dissemination, or other use of, or taking of any action in reliance upon > this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient > is prohibited. > > > -- > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > This email and any attachments may contain privileged and confidential > information and are intended for the named addressee only. If you have > received this e-mail in error, please notify the sender and delete this > e-mail immediately. Any confidentiality, privilege or copyright is not > waived or lost because this e-mail has been sent to you in error. It is > your responsibility to check this e-mail and any attachments for viruses. > No warranty is made that this material is free from computer virus or any > other defect or error. Any loss/damage incurred by using this material is > not the sender's responsibility. The sender's entire liability will be > limited to resupplying the material. > > -- > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > From dwaters at usinternet.com Wed Feb 27 22:25:10 2008 From: dwaters at usinternet.com (Dan Waters) Date: Wed, 27 Feb 2008 22:25:10 -0600 Subject: [AccessD] 'Cascade' within a single combo box... In-Reply-To: <003101c879bf$a6a1dfc0$6401a8c0@DELLAPTOP> References: <49DFE57FB126044B8A8B934E7AEA09ED09FD6FBB@WPEXCH05.colesmyer.ad.cmltd.net.au> <003101c879bf$a6a1dfc0$6401a8c0@DELLAPTOP> Message-ID: <000601c879c1$e8384530$0300a8c0@danwaters> Hi Darryl, I do this with bound comboboxes - code below: ---------------------------------------------------------- Private Sub cboCAPACode1_Enter() On Error GoTo EH If IsNull(cboCAPACode2) And IsNull(cboCAPACode3) Then cboCAPACode1.RowSource = "SELECT CAPACode FROM tblCAPACodeLU" End If If Not IsNull(cboCAPACode2) And IsNull(cboCAPACode3) Then cboCAPACode1.RowSource = "SELECT CAPACode FROM tblCAPACodeLU" _ & " WHERE CAPACode <> '" & Forms("frmCAPAMain")("cboCAPACode2") & "'" End If If IsNull(cboCAPACode2) And Not IsNull(cboCAPACode3) Then cboCAPACode1.RowSource = "SELECT CAPACode FROM tblCAPACodeLU" _ & " WHERE CAPACode <> '" & Forms("frmCAPAMain")("cboCAPACode3") & "'" End If If Not IsNull(cboCAPACode2) And Not IsNull(cboCAPACode3) Then cboCAPACode1.RowSource = "SELECT CAPACode FROM tblCAPACodeLU" _ & " WHERE CAPACode <> '" & Forms("frmCAPAMain")("cboCAPACode2") & "' AND CAPACode <> '" & Forms("frmCAPAMain")("cboCAPACode3") & "'" End If Exit Sub EH: Application.Echo True End Sub ----------------------------------------------------------- There are 3 comboboxes - if either of the other two have already been used, then this combobox's RowSource is changed - using the Enter event. All three comboboxes have similar code in their Enter events. This has worked out very well. HTH! Dan -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Kath Pelletti Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2008 10:09 PM To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving Subject: Re: [AccessD] 'Cascade' within a single combo box... Darryl - I don't think the answer is going to be simple.....but I think others on the list have done this by having an unbound combo for your second combo box. Initially it has a row source set which includes all 'valid' options, but on change of your first combo, the row source of the your second (variable unbound) combo changes to all remaining options minus the one selected, as you say. Once a selection from your unbound combo has been made (after update) you bind that value in code to the field. (The second combo has to be unbound because if you keep it bound your other recs on the continuous form will be temporarily invalidated....) There have been some posts on this topic a while back - if you can't find them in the archive I can fwd a couple of relevant ones to you offline... hth Kath ----- Original Message ----- From: "Darryl Collins" To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving" Sent: Thursday, February 28, 2008 2:41 PM Subject: [AccessD] 'Cascade' within a single combo box... > Hey all, > > This is probably easy (i sure hope so) but I am having a brain freeze > today. I have a continuous form with a combo box on it. Ideally when the > user chooses one option form the combo box the next box should only have > available the remaining options (less the one chosen) etc etc - similar to > having casading combo boxes (only I just want the one). > > Actually, this could be set up all wrong using a continuous form when I > think about it. > > Is this possible to do, and am I approaching this the correct way? (I > suspect not). > > regards > Darryl. > > -----Original Message----- > From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Drew Wutka > Sent: Thursday, 28 February 2008 8:09 AM > To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving > Subject: Re: [AccessD] Access 2000/2003 > > > Depends, when you run something with the task scheduler, you should have > the option to 'run as' with a specific account. Otherwise, it probably > runs under the local system account. > > Drew > > -----Original Message----- > From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of > ebarro at verizon.net > Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2008 2:49 PM > To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com > Subject: [AccessD] Access 2000/2003 > > Jim, > > Check permissions on the app. For the task scheduler check what > credentials are being used to run it under. When you run it manually you > are using your login credentials. Is it the same as the credentials used > by running it in Task Scheduler? > > Eric > -- > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > The information contained in this transmission is intended only for the > person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain II-VI > Proprietary and/or II-VI Business Sensitive material. If you are not the > intended recipient, please contact the sender immediately and destroy the > material in its entirety, whether electronic or hard copy. You are > notified that any review, retransmission, copying, disclosure, > dissemination, or other use of, or taking of any action in reliance upon > this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient > is prohibited. > > > -- > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > This email and any attachments may contain privileged and confidential > information and are intended for the named addressee only. If you have > received this e-mail in error, please notify the sender and delete this > e-mail immediately. Any confidentiality, privilege or copyright is not > waived or lost because this e-mail has been sent to you in error. It is > your responsibility to check this e-mail and any attachments for viruses. > No warranty is made that this material is free from computer virus or any > other defect or error. Any loss/damage incurred by using this material is > not the sender's responsibility. The sender's entire liability will be > limited to resupplying the material. > > -- > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From Darryl.Collins at coles.com.au Thu Feb 28 01:06:48 2008 From: Darryl.Collins at coles.com.au (Darryl Collins) Date: Thu, 28 Feb 2008 18:06:48 +1100 Subject: [AccessD] 'Cascade' within a single combo box... Message-ID: <49DFE57FB126044B8A8B934E7AEA09ED09FD6FBD@WPEXCH05.colesmyer.ad.cmltd.net.au> Thanks for all the advice so far, I am really thinking this is more of a design issue and I think (in this case at least) a minor tweak to the layout will achieve the result the client is looking for without too much stuffing around. This afternoon has been educational though, so I have learnt more. many thanks Darryl. -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Dan Waters Sent: Thursday, 28 February 2008 3:25 PM To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' Subject: Re: [AccessD] 'Cascade' within a single combo box... Hi Darryl, I do this with bound comboboxes - code below: ---------------------------------------------------------- Private Sub cboCAPACode1_Enter() On Error GoTo EH If IsNull(cboCAPACode2) And IsNull(cboCAPACode3) Then cboCAPACode1.RowSource = "SELECT CAPACode FROM tblCAPACodeLU" End If If Not IsNull(cboCAPACode2) And IsNull(cboCAPACode3) Then cboCAPACode1.RowSource = "SELECT CAPACode FROM tblCAPACodeLU" _ & " WHERE CAPACode <> '" & Forms("frmCAPAMain")("cboCAPACode2") & "'" End If If IsNull(cboCAPACode2) And Not IsNull(cboCAPACode3) Then cboCAPACode1.RowSource = "SELECT CAPACode FROM tblCAPACodeLU" _ & " WHERE CAPACode <> '" & Forms("frmCAPAMain")("cboCAPACode3") & "'" End If If Not IsNull(cboCAPACode2) And Not IsNull(cboCAPACode3) Then cboCAPACode1.RowSource = "SELECT CAPACode FROM tblCAPACodeLU" _ & " WHERE CAPACode <> '" & Forms("frmCAPAMain")("cboCAPACode2") & "' AND CAPACode <> '" & Forms("frmCAPAMain")("cboCAPACode3") & "'" End If Exit Sub EH: Application.Echo True End Sub ----------------------------------------------------------- There are 3 comboboxes - if either of the other two have already been used, then this combobox's RowSource is changed - using the Enter event. All three comboboxes have similar code in their Enter events. This has worked out very well. HTH! Dan -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Kath Pelletti Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2008 10:09 PM To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving Subject: Re: [AccessD] 'Cascade' within a single combo box... Darryl - I don't think the answer is going to be simple.....but I think others on the list have done this by having an unbound combo for your second combo box. Initially it has a row source set which includes all 'valid' options, but on change of your first combo, the row source of the your second (variable unbound) combo changes to all remaining options minus the one selected, as you say. Once a selection from your unbound combo has been made (after update) you bind that value in code to the field. (The second combo has to be unbound because if you keep it bound your other recs on the continuous form will be temporarily invalidated....) There have been some posts on this topic a while back - if you can't find them in the archive I can fwd a couple of relevant ones to you offline... hth Kath ----- Original Message ----- From: "Darryl Collins" To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving" Sent: Thursday, February 28, 2008 2:41 PM Subject: [AccessD] 'Cascade' within a single combo box... > Hey all, > > This is probably easy (i sure hope so) but I am having a brain freeze > today. I have a continuous form with a combo box on it. Ideally when the > user chooses one option form the combo box the next box should only have > available the remaining options (less the one chosen) etc etc - similar to > having casading combo boxes (only I just want the one). > > Actually, this could be set up all wrong using a continuous form when I > think about it. > > Is this possible to do, and am I approaching this the correct way? (I > suspect not). > > regards > Darryl. > > -----Original Message----- > From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Drew Wutka > Sent: Thursday, 28 February 2008 8:09 AM > To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving > Subject: Re: [AccessD] Access 2000/2003 > > > Depends, when you run something with the task scheduler, you should have > the option to 'run as' with a specific account. Otherwise, it probably > runs under the local system account. > > Drew > > -----Original Message----- > From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of > ebarro at verizon.net > Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2008 2:49 PM > To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com > Subject: [AccessD] Access 2000/2003 > > Jim, > > Check permissions on the app. For the task scheduler check what > credentials are being used to run it under. When you run it manually you > are using your login credentials. Is it the same as the credentials used > by running it in Task Scheduler? > > Eric > -- > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > The information contained in this transmission is intended only for the > person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain II-VI > Proprietary and/or II-VI Business Sensitive material. If you are not the > intended recipient, please contact the sender immediately and destroy the > material in its entirety, whether electronic or hard copy. You are > notified that any review, retransmission, copying, disclosure, > dissemination, or other use of, or taking of any action in reliance upon > this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient > is prohibited. > > > -- > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > This email and any attachments may contain privileged and confidential > information and are intended for the named addressee only. If you have > received this e-mail in error, please notify the sender and delete this > e-mail immediately. Any confidentiality, privilege or copyright is not > waived or lost because this e-mail has been sent to you in error. It is > your responsibility to check this e-mail and any attachments for viruses. > No warranty is made that this material is free from computer virus or any > other defect or error. Any loss/damage incurred by using this material is > not the sender's responsibility. The sender's entire liability will be > limited to resupplying the material. > > -- > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com This email and any attachments may contain privileged and confidential information and are intended for the named addressee only. If you have received this e-mail in error, please notify the sender and delete this e-mail immediately. Any confidentiality, privilege or copyright is not waived or lost because this e-mail has been sent to you in error. It is your responsibility to check this e-mail and any attachments for viruses. No warranty is made that this material is free from computer virus or any other defect or error. Any loss/damage incurred by using this material is not the sender's responsibility. The sender's entire liability will be limited to resupplying the material. From miscellany at mvps.org Thu Feb 28 01:03:59 2008 From: miscellany at mvps.org (Steve Schapel) Date: Thu, 28 Feb 2008 20:03:59 +1300 Subject: [AccessD] 'Cascade' within a single combo box... In-Reply-To: <49DFE57FB126044B8A8B934E7AEA09ED09FD6FBB@WPEXCH05.colesmyer.ad.cmltd.net.au> References: <49DFE57FB126044B8A8B934E7AEA09ED09FD6FBB@WPEXCH05.colesmyer.ad.cmltd.net.au> Message-ID: <47C65CDF.7040804@mvps.org> Darryl, Make a query, that includes 2 input tables: - the table that your form is bound to - the table that provides the Row Source for the combobox. Join them on the field that is the combobox's Bound Column. Make this as a Left Join (i.e. all from the lookup table, and matching records from the main table). In the criteria of the relevant field from the main table, enter: Is Null Also enter whatever criteria you need in order to select the records that relate to the Record Source of the form. Save and name this query. Ok, now on the Enter event of the combobox, code like this: Me.NameOfCombobox.RowSource = "NameOfAboveMentionedQuery" ... and on its Exit event: Me.NameOfCombobox.RowSource = "NameOfYourLookupTable" Regards Steve Darryl Collins wrote: > > Hey all, > > This is probably easy (i sure hope so) but I am having a brain freeze today. I have a continuous form with a combo box on it. Ideally when the user chooses one option form the combo box the next box should only have available the remaining options (less the one chosen) etc etc - similar to having casading combo boxes (only I just want the one). > > Actually, this could be set up all wrong using a continuous form when I think about it. > > Is this possible to do, and am I approaching this the correct way? (I suspect not). > From miscellany at mvps.org Wed Feb 27 22:03:17 2008 From: miscellany at mvps.org (Steve Schapel) Date: Thu, 28 Feb 2008 17:03:17 +1300 Subject: [AccessD] 'Cascade' within a single combo box... In-Reply-To: <49DFE57FB126044B8A8B934E7AEA09ED09FD6FBB@WPEXCH05.colesmyer.ad.cmltd.net.au> References: <49DFE57FB126044B8A8B934E7AEA09ED09FD6FBB@WPEXCH05.colesmyer.ad.cmltd.net.au> Message-ID: <47C63285.5040403@mvps.org> Darryl, Make a query, that includes 2 input tables: - the table that your form is bound to - the table that provides the Row Source for the combobox. Join them on the field that is the combobox's Bound Column. Make this as a Left Join (i.e. all from the lookup table, and matching records from the main table). In the criteria of the relevant field from the main table, enter: Is Null Also enter whatever criteria you need in order to select the records that relate to the Record Source of the form. Save and name this query. Ok, now on the Enter event of the combobox, code like this: Me.NameOfCombobox.RowSource = "NameOfAboveMentionedQuery" ... and on its Exit event: Me.NameOfCombobox.RowSource = "NameOfYourLookupTable" Regards Steve Darryl Collins wrote: > > Hey all, > > This is probably easy (i sure hope so) but I am having a brain freeze today. I have a continuous form with a combo box on it. Ideally when the user chooses one option form the combo box the next box should only have available the remaining options (less the one chosen) etc etc - similar to having casading combo boxes (only I just want the one). > > Actually, this could be set up all wrong using a continuous form when I think about it. > > Is this possible to do, and am I approaching this the correct way? (I suspect not). > From jimdettman at verizon.net Thu Feb 28 07:15:36 2008 From: jimdettman at verizon.net (Jim Dettman) Date: Thu, 28 Feb 2008 08:15:36 -0500 Subject: [AccessD] Access 2000/2003 In-Reply-To: <12575913.681571204145341932.JavaMail.root@vms074.mailsrvcs.net> References: <12575913.681571204145341932.JavaMail.root@vms074.mailsrvcs.net> Message-ID: <00e301c87a0c$020509e0$8abea8c0@XPS> Eric, Yes, all the same. Running manually I haven't gotten the error yet. Running through Task Scheduler I get the error. The task is setup to use the same account that I am currently logged in under. I also tried another task scheduler this morning and got the same result. Jim. -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of ebarro at verizon.net Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2008 3:49 PM To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: [AccessD] Access 2000/2003 Jim, Check permissions on the app. For the task scheduler check what credentials are being used to run it under. When you run it manually you are using your login credentials. Is it the same as the credentials used by running it in Task Scheduler? Eric -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From Jim.Hale at FleetPride.com Thu Feb 28 14:28:01 2008 From: Jim.Hale at FleetPride.com (Hale, Jim) Date: Thu, 28 Feb 2008 14:28:01 -0600 Subject: [AccessD] Retirement Message-ID: I was tired yesterday, I am tired today, and after tomorrow (2/29), I will be officially retired. Given what the market has done since I announced my retirement back in July this is the equivalent of diving into the pool headfirst before remembering to check for water. Hopefully it will work out. The ten years since I joined this list has zoomed by amazingly fast. It has been a blast. I thought about writing my memoirs but realized this would take only about an afternoon if I stretched it. Maybe I will write an expose "Code I have known and loved" and other trivia. Or perhaps I will hang around kind of as the ghost of Access past rattling the chains and scaring newbies. So much time, so little money! In any case after a six year hiatus its time to rejoin the OT list which, after all, was started to discuss Bush's election in 2000. But first a week in Vegas. See you guys in a week. Jim (Tx hold'em as a 2nd career) Hale *********************************************************************** The information transmitted is intended solely for the individual or entity to which it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or privileged material. Any review, retransmission, dissemination or other use of or taking action in reliance upon this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient is prohibited. If you have received this email in error please contact the sender and delete the material from any computer. As a recipient of this email, you are responsible for screening its contents and the contents of any attachments for the presence of viruses. No liability is accepted for any damages caused by any virus transmitted by this email. From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com Thu Feb 28 14:38:55 2008 From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (jwcolby) Date: Thu, 28 Feb 2008 15:38:55 -0500 Subject: [AccessD] Cnts in sets Message-ID: <005601c87a49$f0c8ec80$0201a8c0@M90> I have a table with 50 million records, which is a subset of a bigger table of 65 million records. IOW, of 65 million records, only about 50 million were selected for inclusion in the smaller table. The reason for this is that of the 65 million records, ~15 million had addresses that were undeliverable. I need a way to "view" or understand the distribution of PKIDs across that table. Back in the beginning I performed a very manual labor intensive task of processing these records through accuzip (address validation) where I had to break the 65 million records down into CSV files of ~1.5 million records, export them out to Accuzip, then reimport the validated results back into SQL Server, filter out bad records etc. I have discovered a "hole" in my results where there are no PKIDs across a range of hundreds of thousands of records. I do not know how big the "hole" is. Under normal circumstances (a visual view for example) you will see a few missing PKIDs in a range of 20 or 30, but never consecutive sets of missing records. But I have at least one "hole" where hundreds of thousands are missing. I need a way to find the "edges" of the hole of the missing PKIDs. IE I need to view the distribution of numbers across the range of numbers. It should be a "flat line" if you will where every once in awhile a number is missing, but where the hole is will be a drop to zero for an extended range. Or something. I have no idea how to "see" this data. I have a process that is exporting the validated records back out to be revalidated (people move). It is this export program (which I wrote) that discovered the hole, and I can if necessary use this program to find the hole but I thought some of you folks might know of a way to do this in SQL. Something like specify a range of numbers, a from/to and get a count, rinse / repeat. I did this manually to verify that a 1 million record range came up about 400 K short of the normal - ~800K is a "normal" count within a given million records, the "hole" only had ~400K records. BTW, I found the hole because I normally export "100K" records at a time into a file , and was filling a recordset with a WHERE PKID >=X and <=X+100K (which of course does not provide 100K but around 80K) and was looking for an empty recordset to tell me that I was done. Well... when I hit the "hole" I got the empty recordset and my process was saying it was done, except it had only exported about twenty 1 million record files out of a total 50 million records. oooops. So, I have a hole. I need to know if there are any other holes (smaller than my 100k export piece) but I really need a generic way to sense such a hole in my PKs. Any ideas? John W. Colby Colby Consulting www.ColbyConsulting.com From fuller.artful at gmail.com Thu Feb 28 14:41:06 2008 From: fuller.artful at gmail.com (Arthur Fuller) Date: Thu, 28 Feb 2008 15:41:06 -0500 Subject: [AccessD] Retirement In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <29f585dd0802281241s6aa7c43fk3320035a82892130@mail.gmail.com> Maybe you could write a piece on code that is widely re-used. An expose on "code that sleeps around" or somesuch. Happy retirement! A. On 2/28/08, Hale, Jim wrote: > > > I was tired yesterday, I am tired today, and after tomorrow (2/29), I > will be officially retired. Given what the market has done since I > announced my retirement back in July this is the equivalent of diving > into the pool headfirst before remembering to check for water. > Hopefully it will work out. The ten years since I joined this list has > zoomed by amazingly fast. It has been a blast. I thought about writing > my memoirs but realized this would take only about an afternoon if I > stretched it. Maybe I will write an expose "Code I have known and loved" > and other trivia. From mwp.reid at qub.ac.uk Thu Feb 28 14:41:00 2008 From: mwp.reid at qub.ac.uk (Martin W Reid) Date: Thu, 28 Feb 2008 20:41:00 +0000 Subject: [AccessD] Retirement In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Jim Enjoy and see you on OT Martin Martin WP Reid Information Services Queen's University Riddel Hall 185 Stranmillis Road Belfast BT9 5EE Tel : 02890974465 Email : mwp.reid at qub.ac.uk From wdhindman at dejpolsystems.com Thu Feb 28 14:47:06 2008 From: wdhindman at dejpolsystems.com (William Hindman) Date: Thu, 28 Feb 2008 15:47:06 -0500 Subject: [AccessD] Retirement References: Message-ID: <001a01c87a4b$14ecac90$0c10a8c0@jisshowsbs.local> ...lol ...I've been "retired" since I was 48, Jim ...bored me near to death ...got a second life ...software consulting ...been damn good to me and those retirement checks smoothed out the rough edges in the early going ...see you on this side soon :))) William ps ...be damned good to see your humor back on OT ...Rocky tries but he desperately needs help :) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Hale, Jim" To: Sent: Thursday, February 28, 2008 3:28 PM Subject: [AccessD] Retirement > > I was tired yesterday, I am tired today, and after tomorrow (2/29), I > will be officially retired. Given what the market has done since I > announced my retirement back in July this is the equivalent of diving > into the pool headfirst before remembering to check for water. > Hopefully it will work out. The ten years since I joined this list has > zoomed by amazingly fast. It has been a blast. I thought about writing > my memoirs but realized this would take only about an afternoon if I > stretched it. Maybe I will write an expose "Code I have known and loved" > and other trivia. Or perhaps I will hang around kind of as the ghost of > Access past rattling the chains and scaring newbies. So much time, so > little money! In any case after a six year hiatus its time to rejoin the > OT list which, after all, was started to discuss Bush's election in > 2000. But first a week in Vegas. See you guys in a week. > > Jim (Tx hold'em as a 2nd career) Hale > > > *********************************************************************** > The information transmitted is intended solely for the individual or > entity to which it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or > privileged material. Any review, retransmission, dissemination or > other use of or taking action in reliance upon this information by > persons or entities other than the intended recipient is prohibited. > If you have received this email in error please contact the sender and > delete the material from any computer. As a recipient of this email, > you are responsible for screening its contents and the contents of any > attachments for the presence of viruses. No liability is accepted for > any damages caused by any virus transmitted by this email. > -- > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > From garykjos at gmail.com Thu Feb 28 14:50:53 2008 From: garykjos at gmail.com (Gary Kjos) Date: Thu, 28 Feb 2008 14:50:53 -0600 Subject: [AccessD] Retirement In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Congratulations Jim! And Welcome back to OT! GK On 2/28/08, Hale, Jim wrote: > > I was tired yesterday, I am tired today, and after tomorrow (2/29), I > will be officially retired. Given what the market has done since I > announced my retirement back in July this is the equivalent of diving > into the pool headfirst before remembering to check for water. > Hopefully it will work out. The ten years since I joined this list has > zoomed by amazingly fast. It has been a blast. I thought about writing > my memoirs but realized this would take only about an afternoon if I > stretched it. Maybe I will write an expose "Code I have known and loved" > and other trivia. Or perhaps I will hang around kind of as the ghost of > Access past rattling the chains and scaring newbies. So much time, so > little money! In any case after a six year hiatus its time to rejoin the > OT list which, after all, was started to discuss Bush's election in > 2000. But first a week in Vegas. See you guys in a week. > > Jim (Tx hold'em as a 2nd career) Hale > > > *********************************************************************** > The information transmitted is intended solely for the individual or > entity to which it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or > privileged material. 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No liability is accepted for > any damages caused by any virus transmitted by this email. > -- > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > -- Gary Kjos garykjos at gmail.com From Jim.Hale at FleetPride.com Thu Feb 28 14:51:16 2008 From: Jim.Hale at FleetPride.com (Hale, Jim) Date: Thu, 28 Feb 2008 14:51:16 -0600 Subject: [AccessD] Retirement In-Reply-To: <29f585dd0802281241s6aa7c43fk3320035a82892130@mail.gmail.com> References: <29f585dd0802281241s6aa7c43fk3320035a82892130@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Most of my code just lies there. :-) Jim H -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Arthur Fuller Sent: Thursday, February 28, 2008 2:41 PM To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving Subject: Re: [AccessD] Retirement Maybe you could write a piece on code that is widely re-used. An expose on "code that sleeps around" or somesuch. Happy retirement! A. On 2/28/08, Hale, Jim wrote: > > > I was tired yesterday, I am tired today, and after tomorrow (2/29), I > will be officially retired. Given what the market has done since I > announced my retirement back in July this is the equivalent of diving > into the pool headfirst before remembering to check for water. > Hopefully it will work out. The ten years since I joined this list has > zoomed by amazingly fast. It has been a blast. I thought about writing > my memoirs but realized this would take only about an afternoon if I > stretched it. Maybe I will write an expose "Code I have known and loved" > and other trivia. -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com *********************************************************************** The information transmitted is intended solely for the individual or entity to which it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or privileged material. Any review, retransmission, dissemination or other use of or taking action in reliance upon this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient is prohibited. If you have received this email in error please contact the sender and delete the material from any computer. As a recipient of this email, you are responsible for screening its contents and the contents of any attachments for the presence of viruses. No liability is accepted for any damages caused by any virus transmitted by this email. From DWUTKA at Marlow.com Thu Feb 28 14:52:23 2008 From: DWUTKA at Marlow.com (Drew Wutka) Date: Thu, 28 Feb 2008 14:52:23 -0600 Subject: [AccessD] Retirement In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Congrats, and good luck with Hold'em! I'm not going to have the cash or time to go play that for a month or so! Drew -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Hale, Jim Sent: Thursday, February 28, 2008 2:28 PM To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: [AccessD] Retirement I was tired yesterday, I am tired today, and after tomorrow (2/29), I will be officially retired. Given what the market has done since I announced my retirement back in July this is the equivalent of diving into the pool headfirst before remembering to check for water. Hopefully it will work out. The ten years since I joined this list has zoomed by amazingly fast. It has been a blast. I thought about writing my memoirs but realized this would take only about an afternoon if I stretched it. Maybe I will write an expose "Code I have known and loved" and other trivia. Or perhaps I will hang around kind of as the ghost of Access past rattling the chains and scaring newbies. So much time, so little money! In any case after a six year hiatus its time to rejoin the OT list which, after all, was started to discuss Bush's election in 2000. But first a week in Vegas. See you guys in a week. Jim (Tx hold'em as a 2nd career) Hale *********************************************************************** The information transmitted is intended solely for the individual or entity to which it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or privileged material. Any review, retransmission, dissemination or other use of or taking action in reliance upon this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient is prohibited. If you have received this email in error please contact the sender and delete the material from any computer. As a recipient of this email, you are responsible for screening its contents and the contents of any attachments for the presence of viruses. No liability is accepted for any damages caused by any virus transmitted by this email. -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com The information contained in this transmission is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain II-VI Proprietary and/or II-VI Business Sensitive material. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender immediately and destroy the material in its entirety, whether electronic or hard copy. You are notified that any review, retransmission, copying, disclosure, dissemination, or other use of, or taking of any action in reliance upon this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient is prohibited. From andy at minstersystems.co.uk Thu Feb 28 14:58:39 2008 From: andy at minstersystems.co.uk (Andy Lacey) Date: Thu, 28 Feb 2008 20:58:39 -0000 Subject: [AccessD] Retirement In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <00a301c87a4c$b1b0db40$ee8bd355@minster33c3r25> Happy retirement Jim -- Andy Lacey (green with envy) http://www.minstersystems.co.uk >-----Original Message----- >From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com >[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Hale, Jim >Sent: 28 February 2008 20:28 >To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com >Subject: [AccessD] Retirement > > > >I was tired yesterday, I am tired today, and after tomorrow >(2/29), I will be officially retired. Given what the market >has done since I announced my retirement back in July this is >the equivalent of diving into the pool headfirst before >remembering to check for water. Hopefully it will work out. >The ten years since I joined this list has zoomed by amazingly >fast. It has been a blast. I thought about writing my memoirs >but realized this would take only about an afternoon if I >stretched it. Maybe I will write an expose "Code I have known >and loved" and other trivia. Or perhaps I will hang around >kind of as the ghost of Access past rattling the chains and >scaring newbies. So much time, so little money! In any case >after a six year hiatus its time to rejoin the OT list which, >after all, was started to discuss Bush's election in 2000. But >first a week in Vegas. See you guys in a week. > >Jim (Tx hold'em as a 2nd career) Hale > > >*********************************************************************** >The information transmitted is intended solely for the >individual or entity to which it is addressed and may contain >confidential and/or privileged material. Any review, >retransmission, dissemination or other use of or taking action >in reliance upon this information by persons or entities other >than the intended recipient is prohibited. If you have >received this email in error please contact the sender and >delete the material from any computer. As a recipient of this >email, you are responsible for screening its contents and the >contents of any attachments for the presence of viruses. No >liability is accepted for any damages caused by any virus >transmitted by this email. >-- >AccessD mailing list >AccessD at databaseadvisors.com >http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd >Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > From Jim.Hale at FleetPride.com Thu Feb 28 15:03:48 2008 From: Jim.Hale at FleetPride.com (Hale, Jim) Date: Thu, 28 Feb 2008 15:03:48 -0600 Subject: [AccessD] Retirement In-Reply-To: <001a01c87a4b$14ecac90$0c10a8c0@jisshowsbs.local> References: <001a01c87a4b$14ecac90$0c10a8c0@jisshowsbs.local> Message-ID: I've thought about learning dotnet but it took me so long to grasp classes when I picked up Access I don't have much hope of "getting it" before the clock runs out. After all, you can only stretch an accountant's mind so far before his head explodes.I'll be 57 next week. Maybe a second career as a Cognos consultant. :-) Quote of the day: "Artificial intelligence is no match for natural stupidity" Jim Hale -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of William Hindman Sent: Thursday, February 28, 2008 2:47 PM To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving Subject: Re: [AccessD] Retirement ...lol ...I've been "retired" since I was 48, Jim ...bored me near to death ...got a second life ...software consulting ...been damn good to me and those retirement checks smoothed out the rough edges in the early going ...see you on this side soon :))) William ps ...be damned good to see your humor back on OT ...Rocky tries but he desperately needs help :) *********************************************************************** The information transmitted is intended solely for the individual or entity to which it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or privileged material. 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From wdhindman at dejpolsystems.com Thu Feb 28 16:14:22 2008 From: wdhindman at dejpolsystems.com (William Hindman) Date: Thu, 28 Feb 2008 17:14:22 -0500 Subject: [AccessD] Retirement References: <001a01c87a4b$14ecac90$0c10a8c0@jisshowsbs.local> Message-ID: <001501c87a57$4629b120$0c10a8c0@jisshowsbs.local> ...in actuality Jim, it took me awhile but I find dot.net a LOT easier to work in when you want to do something Access doesn't have built in ...once you get used to the different design paradigms, its amazing what you can do ...and vb.net is little more than Access VBA with classes built in ...once you get your feet up, dl the FREE Visual Studio 8 VB.Net Express and start to rework one of your recent Access projects in it ...I think you'll be amazed at what you can do ...plus the VB.net list here is getting a lot more traffic and you'll be very comfortable with most of the names there as well. ...and you should know this yourself already but maybe you've just not connected the dots, an inside connection with some accountants is a goldmine for small business software developers. ...of course, if you've already bought that ranch in Guana Caste, maybe you won't be so bored after all :) William ----- Original Message ----- From: "Hale, Jim" To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving" Sent: Thursday, February 28, 2008 4:03 PM Subject: Re: [AccessD] Retirement > > I've thought about learning dotnet but it took me so long to grasp > classes when I picked up Access I don't have much hope of "getting it" > before the clock runs out. After all, you can only stretch an > accountant's mind so far before his head explodes.I'll be 57 next week. > Maybe a second career as a Cognos consultant. :-) > > Quote of the day: > "Artificial intelligence is no match for natural stupidity" > Jim Hale > > -----Original Message----- > From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of William > Hindman > Sent: Thursday, February 28, 2008 2:47 PM > To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving > Subject: Re: [AccessD] Retirement > > ...lol ...I've been "retired" since I was 48, Jim ...bored me near to > death > ...got a second life ...software consulting ...been damn good to me and > those retirement checks smoothed out the rough edges in the early going > ...see you on this side soon :))) > > William > ps ...be damned good to see your humor back on OT ...Rocky tries but he > desperately needs help :) > > > *********************************************************************** > The information transmitted is intended solely for the individual or > entity to which it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or > privileged material. Any review, retransmission, dissemination or > other use of or taking action in reliance upon this information by > persons or entities other than the intended recipient is prohibited. > If you have received this email in error please contact the sender and > delete the material from any computer. As a recipient of this email, > you are responsible for screening its contents and the contents of any > attachments for the presence of viruses. No liability is accepted for > any damages caused by any virus transmitted by this email. > > -- > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > From cfoust at infostatsystems.com Thu Feb 28 16:32:48 2008 From: cfoust at infostatsystems.com (Charlotte Foust) Date: Thu, 28 Feb 2008 14:32:48 -0800 Subject: [AccessD] Retirement In-Reply-To: References: <001a01c87a4b$14ecac90$0c10a8c0@jisshowsbs.local> Message-ID: Hey, I'm 63 and *I'm* learning .Net. Trust in the Force, Luke! Charlotte Foust PS/ Happy retirement Jim -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Hale, Jim Sent: Thursday, February 28, 2008 1:04 PM To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving Subject: Re: [AccessD] Retirement I've thought about learning dotnet but it took me so long to grasp classes when I picked up Access I don't have much hope of "getting it" before the clock runs out. After all, you can only stretch an accountant's mind so far before his head explodes.I'll be 57 next week. Maybe a second career as a Cognos consultant. :-) Quote of the day: "Artificial intelligence is no match for natural stupidity" Jim Hale -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of William Hindman Sent: Thursday, February 28, 2008 2:47 PM To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving Subject: Re: [AccessD] Retirement ...lol ...I've been "retired" since I was 48, Jim ...bored me near to death ...got a second life ...software consulting ...been damn good to me and those retirement checks smoothed out the rough edges in the early going ...see you on this side soon :))) William ps ...be damned good to see your humor back on OT ...Rocky tries but he desperately needs help :) *********************************************************************** The information transmitted is intended solely for the individual or entity to which it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or privileged material. 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No liability is accepted for any damages caused by any virus transmitted by this email. -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From rockysmolin at bchacc.com Thu Feb 28 16:41:48 2008 From: rockysmolin at bchacc.com (Rocky Smolin at Beach Access Software) Date: Thu, 28 Feb 2008 14:41:48 -0800 Subject: [AccessD] Write Array to Table Message-ID: <01a801c87a5b$1aa54330$0301a8c0@HAL9005> Dear List: Is there a quick way to write the contents of an array out to a table. I need to see the contents of this array and debug is too awkward. A table view would be ideal. The array is DIMmed as: Dim mudTH() As THRecord where THRecord is Private Type THRecord TaskID As Long 'T StartDate As Date 'S DueDate As Date 'D QuasiDueDate As Date 'Q TargetDate As Date 'R RequiredHours As Double 'H EarliestCompleteDate As Date 'C ASAP As Double 'A fOrdering As Boolean 'F ErrorHours As Double 'E TempReg As Double 'Z DueDateFlag As Boolean 'FD PastDueFlag As Boolean 'FP ASAPFlag As Boolean 'FA TargetDateFlag As Boolean 'FT End Type So if necessary, I could make a table with the required number of fields. MTIA Rocky From fuller.artful at gmail.com Thu Feb 28 16:42:25 2008 From: fuller.artful at gmail.com (Arthur Fuller) Date: Thu, 28 Feb 2008 14:42:25 -0800 Subject: [AccessD] Retirement In-Reply-To: References: <001a01c87a4b$14ecac90$0c10a8c0@jisshowsbs.local> Message-ID: <29f585dd0802281442p2a3d0d66v1ed7a24c224172a5@mail.gmail.com> God, we should have a new discussion group here called dba-over60! I'm in. In fact, in Canada there are two options for collecting what is called Canada Pension Plan. You can apply at age 60 and receive less per month, or wait until 65 and receive more. I applied at age 60, figuring who knows, get the loot while you can. We could provide advice to each other on when to hold 'em and when to fold 'em, plus gardening tips, and the best ways to dye our hair blue. A. On Thu, Feb 28, 2008 at 2:32 PM, Charlotte Foust wrote: > Hey, I'm 63 and *I'm* learning .Net. Trust in the Force, Luke! > > Charlotte Foust > > PS/ Happy retirement Jim > From Jim.Hale at FleetPride.com Thu Feb 28 16:46:52 2008 From: Jim.Hale at FleetPride.com (Hale, Jim) Date: Thu, 28 Feb 2008 16:46:52 -0600 Subject: [AccessD] Retirement In-Reply-To: <29f585dd0802281442p2a3d0d66v1ed7a24c224172a5@mail.gmail.com> References: <001a01c87a4b$14ecac90$0c10a8c0@jisshowsbs.local> <29f585dd0802281442p2a3d0d66v1ed7a24c224172a5@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Well if we develop a good seven step program I'm in. Jim Hale -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Arthur Fuller Sent: Thursday, February 28, 2008 4:42 PM To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving Subject: Re: [AccessD] Retirement God, we should have a new discussion group here called dba-over60! I'm in. In fact, in Canada there are two options for collecting what is called Canada Pension Plan. You can apply at age 60 and receive less per month, or wait until 65 and receive more. I applied at age 60, figuring who knows, get the loot while you can. We could provide advice to each other on when to hold 'em and when to fold 'em, plus gardening tips, and the best ways to dye our hair blue. A. On Thu, Feb 28, 2008 at 2:32 PM, Charlotte Foust wrote: > Hey, I'm 63 and *I'm* learning .Net. Trust in the Force, Luke! > > Charlotte Foust > > PS/ Happy retirement Jim > *********************************************************************** The information transmitted is intended solely for the individual or entity to which it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or privileged material. Any review, retransmission, dissemination or other use of or taking action in reliance upon this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient is prohibited. If you have received this email in error please contact the sender and delete the material from any computer. As a recipient of this email, you are responsible for screening its contents and the contents of any attachments for the presence of viruses. No liability is accepted for any damages caused by any virus transmitted by this email. From DWUTKA at Marlow.com Thu Feb 28 17:00:50 2008 From: DWUTKA at Marlow.com (Drew Wutka) Date: Thu, 28 Feb 2008 17:00:50 -0600 Subject: [AccessD] Write Array to Table In-Reply-To: <01a801c87a5b$1aa54330$0301a8c0@HAL9005> Message-ID: Slow way, loop through the array, and build a table. Maybe faster way, use CopyMemory to dump each item into a string, then write it to a text file. Better way, instead of using a type and array, set this up as a class, and store each 'record' as an instance of the class within a collection. I built a 'Properties' Add-in for VB that lets you create a Properties Property in a class (so you could do a 'for i=1 to THRecord.Properties.Count' type loop. Drew -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Rocky Smolin at Beach Access Software Sent: Thursday, February 28, 2008 4:42 PM To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' Subject: [AccessD] Write Array to Table Dear List: Is there a quick way to write the contents of an array out to a table. I need to see the contents of this array and debug is too awkward. A table view would be ideal. The array is DIMmed as: Dim mudTH() As THRecord where THRecord is Private Type THRecord TaskID As Long 'T StartDate As Date 'S DueDate As Date 'D QuasiDueDate As Date 'Q TargetDate As Date 'R RequiredHours As Double 'H EarliestCompleteDate As Date 'C ASAP As Double 'A fOrdering As Boolean 'F ErrorHours As Double 'E TempReg As Double 'Z DueDateFlag As Boolean 'FD PastDueFlag As Boolean 'FP ASAPFlag As Boolean 'FA TargetDateFlag As Boolean 'FT End Type So if necessary, I could make a table with the required number of fields. MTIA Rocky -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com The information contained in this transmission is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain II-VI Proprietary and/or II-VI Business Sensitive material. 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From darren at activebilling.com.au Thu Feb 28 17:08:05 2008 From: darren at activebilling.com.au (Darren D) Date: Fri, 29 Feb 2008 10:08:05 +1100 Subject: [AccessD] Retirement In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <200802282308.m1SN873j015949@databaseadvisors.com> Best of luck Jim - I hope it's all you expect it to be and more Darren ----------------- -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Hale, Jim Sent: Friday, 29 February 2008 7:28 AM To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: [AccessD] Retirement I was tired yesterday, I am tired today, and after tomorrow (2/29), I will be officially retired. Given what the market has done since I announced my retirement back in July this is the equivalent of diving into the pool headfirst before remembering to check for water. Hopefully it will work out. The ten years since I joined this list has zoomed by amazingly fast. It has been a blast. I thought about writing my memoirs but realized this would take only about an afternoon if I stretched it. Maybe I will write an expose "Code I have known and loved" and other trivia. Or perhaps I will hang around kind of as the ghost of Access past rattling the chains and scaring newbies. So much time, so little money! In any case after a six year hiatus its time to rejoin the OT list which, after all, was started to discuss Bush's election in 2000. But first a week in Vegas. See you guys in a week. Jim (Tx hold'em as a 2nd career) Hale *********************************************************************** The information transmitted is intended solely for the individual or entity to which it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or privileged material. Any review, retransmission, dissemination or other use of or taking action in reliance upon this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient is prohibited. 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Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.21.1 - Release Date: 25/02/2008 12:00 AM From rockysmolin at bchacc.com Thu Feb 28 17:22:54 2008 From: rockysmolin at bchacc.com (Rocky Smolin at Beach Access Software) Date: Thu, 28 Feb 2008 15:22:54 -0800 Subject: [AccessD] Write Array to Table In-Reply-To: References: <01a801c87a5b$1aa54330$0301a8c0@HAL9005> Message-ID: <01ba01c87a60$d8d25050$0301a8c0@HAL9005> Legacy app. I didn't have the option to use a class. :( Rocky -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Drew Wutka Sent: Thursday, February 28, 2008 3:01 PM To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving Subject: Re: [AccessD] Write Array to Table Slow way, loop through the array, and build a table. Maybe faster way, use CopyMemory to dump each item into a string, then write it to a text file. Better way, instead of using a type and array, set this up as a class, and store each 'record' as an instance of the class within a collection. I built a 'Properties' Add-in for VB that lets you create a Properties Property in a class (so you could do a 'for i=1 to THRecord.Properties.Count' type loop. Drew -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Rocky Smolin at Beach Access Software Sent: Thursday, February 28, 2008 4:42 PM To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' Subject: [AccessD] Write Array to Table Dear List: Is there a quick way to write the contents of an array out to a table. I need to see the contents of this array and debug is too awkward. A table view would be ideal. The array is DIMmed as: Dim mudTH() As THRecord where THRecord is Private Type THRecord TaskID As Long 'T StartDate As Date 'S DueDate As Date 'D QuasiDueDate As Date 'Q TargetDate As Date 'R RequiredHours As Double 'H EarliestCompleteDate As Date 'C ASAP As Double 'A fOrdering As Boolean 'F ErrorHours As Double 'E TempReg As Double 'Z DueDateFlag As Boolean 'FD PastDueFlag As Boolean 'FP ASAPFlag As Boolean 'FA TargetDateFlag As Boolean 'FT End Type So if necessary, I could make a table with the required number of fields. MTIA Rocky -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com The information contained in this transmission is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain II-VI Proprietary and/or II-VI Business Sensitive material. 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Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.21.1/1302 - Release Date: 2/27/2008 4:34 PM From DWUTKA at Marlow.com Thu Feb 28 17:30:38 2008 From: DWUTKA at Marlow.com (Drew Wutka) Date: Thu, 28 Feb 2008 17:30:38 -0600 Subject: [AccessD] Write Array to Table In-Reply-To: <01ba01c87a60$d8d25050$0301a8c0@HAL9005> Message-ID: That stinks, well, the copymemory API would probably be the fastest method, but probably not the cleanest. Drew -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Rocky Smolin at Beach Access Software Sent: Thursday, February 28, 2008 5:23 PM To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' Subject: Re: [AccessD] Write Array to Table Legacy app. I didn't have the option to use a class. :( Rocky -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Drew Wutka Sent: Thursday, February 28, 2008 3:01 PM To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving Subject: Re: [AccessD] Write Array to Table Slow way, loop through the array, and build a table. Maybe faster way, use CopyMemory to dump each item into a string, then write it to a text file. Better way, instead of using a type and array, set this up as a class, and store each 'record' as an instance of the class within a collection. I built a 'Properties' Add-in for VB that lets you create a Properties Property in a class (so you could do a 'for i=1 to THRecord.Properties.Count' type loop. Drew -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Rocky Smolin at Beach Access Software Sent: Thursday, February 28, 2008 4:42 PM To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' Subject: [AccessD] Write Array to Table Dear List: Is there a quick way to write the contents of an array out to a table. I need to see the contents of this array and debug is too awkward. A table view would be ideal. The array is DIMmed as: Dim mudTH() As THRecord where THRecord is Private Type THRecord TaskID As Long 'T StartDate As Date 'S DueDate As Date 'D QuasiDueDate As Date 'Q TargetDate As Date 'R RequiredHours As Double 'H EarliestCompleteDate As Date 'C ASAP As Double 'A fOrdering As Boolean 'F ErrorHours As Double 'E TempReg As Double 'Z DueDateFlag As Boolean 'FD PastDueFlag As Boolean 'FP ASAPFlag As Boolean 'FA TargetDateFlag As Boolean 'FT End Type So if necessary, I could make a table with the required number of fields. MTIA Rocky -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com The information contained in this transmission is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain II-VI Proprietary and/or II-VI Business Sensitive material. 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From stuart at lexacorp.com.pg Thu Feb 28 17:48:29 2008 From: stuart at lexacorp.com.pg (Stuart McLachlan) Date: Fri, 29 Feb 2008 09:48:29 +1000 Subject: [AccessD] Retirement In-Reply-To: References: , , Message-ID: <47C7D4ED.24524.80F9EC51@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg> And I'm 59 and doing the same! On 28 Feb 2008 at 14:32, Charlotte Foust wrote: > Hey, I'm 63 and *I'm* learning .Net. Trust in the Force, Luke! > > Charlotte Foust > > PS/ Happy retirement Jim > > -----Original Message----- > From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Hale, Jim > Sent: Thursday, February 28, 2008 1:04 PM > To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving > Subject: Re: [AccessD] Retirement > > > I've thought about learning dotnet but it took me so long to grasp > classes when I picked up Access I don't have much hope of "getting it" > before the clock runs out. After all, you can only stretch an > accountant's mind so far before his head explodes.I'll be 57 next week. > Maybe a second career as a Cognos consultant. :-) > > Quote of the day: > "Artificial intelligence is no match for natural stupidity" > Jim Hale > > -----Original Message----- > From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of William > Hindman > Sent: Thursday, February 28, 2008 2:47 PM > To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving > Subject: Re: [AccessD] Retirement > > ...lol ...I've been "retired" since I was 48, Jim ...bored me near to > death ...got a second life ...software consulting ...been damn good to > me and those retirement checks smoothed out the rough edges in the early > going ...see you on this side soon :))) > > William > ps ...be damned good to see your humor back on OT ...Rocky tries but he > desperately needs help :) > > > *********************************************************************** > The information transmitted is intended solely for the individual or > entity to which it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or > privileged material. 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No liability is accepted for > any damages caused by any virus transmitted by this email. > > -- > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > -- > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From rockysmolin at bchacc.com Thu Feb 28 17:56:02 2008 From: rockysmolin at bchacc.com (Rocky Smolin at Beach Access Software) Date: Thu, 28 Feb 2008 15:56:02 -0800 Subject: [AccessD] Write Array to Table In-Reply-To: References: <01ba01c87a60$d8d25050$0301a8c0@HAL9005> Message-ID: <01be01c87a65$79499490$0301a8c0@HAL9005> Aw, I just brute forced it with a piece of code. 6 minutes and we're done. Rocky -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Drew Wutka Sent: Thursday, February 28, 2008 3:31 PM To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving Subject: Re: [AccessD] Write Array to Table That stinks, well, the copymemory API would probably be the fastest method, but probably not the cleanest. Drew -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Rocky Smolin at Beach Access Software Sent: Thursday, February 28, 2008 5:23 PM To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' Subject: Re: [AccessD] Write Array to Table Legacy app. I didn't have the option to use a class. :( Rocky -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Drew Wutka Sent: Thursday, February 28, 2008 3:01 PM To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving Subject: Re: [AccessD] Write Array to Table Slow way, loop through the array, and build a table. Maybe faster way, use CopyMemory to dump each item into a string, then write it to a text file. Better way, instead of using a type and array, set this up as a class, and store each 'record' as an instance of the class within a collection. I built a 'Properties' Add-in for VB that lets you create a Properties Property in a class (so you could do a 'for i=1 to THRecord.Properties.Count' type loop. Drew -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Rocky Smolin at Beach Access Software Sent: Thursday, February 28, 2008 4:42 PM To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' Subject: [AccessD] Write Array to Table Dear List: Is there a quick way to write the contents of an array out to a table. I need to see the contents of this array and debug is too awkward. A table view would be ideal. The array is DIMmed as: Dim mudTH() As THRecord where THRecord is Private Type THRecord TaskID As Long 'T StartDate As Date 'S DueDate As Date 'D QuasiDueDate As Date 'Q TargetDate As Date 'R RequiredHours As Double 'H EarliestCompleteDate As Date 'C ASAP As Double 'A fOrdering As Boolean 'F ErrorHours As Double 'E TempReg As Double 'Z DueDateFlag As Boolean 'FD PastDueFlag As Boolean 'FP ASAPFlag As Boolean 'FA TargetDateFlag As Boolean 'FT End Type So if necessary, I could make a table with the required number of fields. MTIA Rocky -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com The information contained in this transmission is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain II-VI Proprietary and/or II-VI Business Sensitive material. 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Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.21.1/1302 - Release Date: 2/27/2008 4:34 PM From DWUTKA at Marlow.com Thu Feb 28 18:03:28 2008 From: DWUTKA at Marlow.com (Drew Wutka) Date: Thu, 28 Feb 2008 18:03:28 -0600 Subject: [AccessD] Write Array to Table In-Reply-To: <01be01c87a65$79499490$0301a8c0@HAL9005> Message-ID: There ya go. Drew -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Rocky Smolin at Beach Access Software Sent: Thursday, February 28, 2008 5:56 PM To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' Subject: Re: [AccessD] Write Array to Table Aw, I just brute forced it with a piece of code. 6 minutes and we're done. Rocky -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Drew Wutka Sent: Thursday, February 28, 2008 3:31 PM To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving Subject: Re: [AccessD] Write Array to Table That stinks, well, the copymemory API would probably be the fastest method, but probably not the cleanest. Drew -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Rocky Smolin at Beach Access Software Sent: Thursday, February 28, 2008 5:23 PM To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' Subject: Re: [AccessD] Write Array to Table Legacy app. I didn't have the option to use a class. :( Rocky -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Drew Wutka Sent: Thursday, February 28, 2008 3:01 PM To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving Subject: Re: [AccessD] Write Array to Table Slow way, loop through the array, and build a table. Maybe faster way, use CopyMemory to dump each item into a string, then write it to a text file. Better way, instead of using a type and array, set this up as a class, and store each 'record' as an instance of the class within a collection. I built a 'Properties' Add-in for VB that lets you create a Properties Property in a class (so you could do a 'for i=1 to THRecord.Properties.Count' type loop. Drew -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Rocky Smolin at Beach Access Software Sent: Thursday, February 28, 2008 4:42 PM To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' Subject: [AccessD] Write Array to Table Dear List: Is there a quick way to write the contents of an array out to a table. I need to see the contents of this array and debug is too awkward. A table view would be ideal. The array is DIMmed as: Dim mudTH() As THRecord where THRecord is Private Type THRecord TaskID As Long 'T StartDate As Date 'S DueDate As Date 'D QuasiDueDate As Date 'Q TargetDate As Date 'R RequiredHours As Double 'H EarliestCompleteDate As Date 'C ASAP As Double 'A fOrdering As Boolean 'F ErrorHours As Double 'E TempReg As Double 'Z DueDateFlag As Boolean 'FD PastDueFlag As Boolean 'FP ASAPFlag As Boolean 'FA TargetDateFlag As Boolean 'FT End Type So if necessary, I could make a table with the required number of fields. MTIA Rocky -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com The information contained in this transmission is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain II-VI Proprietary and/or II-VI Business Sensitive material. 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From joe at anamericanjoe.us Thu Feb 28 21:06:01 2008 From: joe at anamericanjoe.us (Joe Hecht) Date: Thu, 28 Feb 2008 19:06:01 -0800 Subject: [AccessD] Print Preview Brain Fade Message-ID: <000001c87a80$0487a460$6401a8c0@ACER2G> I know there is a command when a report opens in preview to make open at 100%. I cant remember or find it. A little help please. TIA Joe Hecht Joe at anamericanjoe.us From miscellany at mvps.org Thu Feb 28 21:24:31 2008 From: miscellany at mvps.org (Steve Schapel) Date: Fri, 29 Feb 2008 16:24:31 +1300 Subject: [AccessD] Print Preview Brain Fade In-Reply-To: <000001c87a80$0487a460$6401a8c0@ACER2G> References: <000001c87a80$0487a460$6401a8c0@ACER2G> Message-ID: <47C77AEF.2080306@mvps.org> Joe, DoCmd.RunCommand acCmdZoom100 or... DoCmd.Maximize :-) Regards Steve Joe Hecht wrote: > I know there is a command when a report opens in preview to make open at > 100%. > > I cant remember or find it. From wdhindman at dejpolsystems.com Thu Feb 28 21:38:02 2008 From: wdhindman at dejpolsystems.com (William Hindman) Date: Thu, 28 Feb 2008 22:38:02 -0500 Subject: [AccessD] Retirement References: <001a01c87a4b$14ecac90$0c10a8c0@jisshowsbs.local> <29f585dd0802281442p2a3d0d66v1ed7a24c224172a5@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <002d01c87a84$7cdfc290$d67e6c4c@jisshowsbs.local> ...first step is to turn off the TV ...soap operas will rot your brain :) William ----- Original Message ----- From: "Hale, Jim" To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving" Sent: Thursday, February 28, 2008 5:46 PM Subject: Re: [AccessD] Retirement > > Well if we develop a good seven step program I'm in. > Jim Hale > > -----Original Message----- > From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Arthur Fuller > Sent: Thursday, February 28, 2008 4:42 PM > To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving > Subject: Re: [AccessD] Retirement > > God, we should have a new discussion group here called dba-over60! I'm > in. > In fact, in Canada there are two options for collecting what is called > Canada Pension Plan. You can apply at age 60 and receive less per month, > or > wait until 65 and receive more. I applied at age 60, figuring who knows, > get > the loot while you can. We could provide advice to each other on when to > hold 'em and when to fold 'em, plus gardening tips, and the best ways to > dye > our hair blue. > > A. > > On Thu, Feb 28, 2008 at 2:32 PM, Charlotte Foust > > wrote: > >> Hey, I'm 63 and *I'm* learning .Net. Trust in the Force, Luke! >> >> Charlotte Foust >> >> PS/ Happy retirement Jim >> > > *********************************************************************** > The information transmitted is intended solely for the individual or > entity to which it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or > privileged material. Any review, retransmission, dissemination or > other use of or taking action in reliance upon this information by > persons or entities other than the intended recipient is prohibited. > If you have received this email in error please contact the sender and > delete the material from any computer. As a recipient of this email, > you are responsible for screening its contents and the contents of any > attachments for the presence of viruses. No liability is accepted for > any damages caused by any virus transmitted by this email. > > -- > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > From Gustav at cactus.dk Fri Feb 29 02:25:46 2008 From: Gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock) Date: Fri, 29 Feb 2008 09:25:46 +0100 Subject: [AccessD] Retirement Message-ID: Hi Jim 57? I thought you were an old man! Now, get a 24" screen, a fast machine with 2 GB ram or more and fire up Visual Studio. Lots of fun! And - as William states - get rid of the TV set and all the temptating junk. Believe me, you won't miss it - news can be obtained via on-line services and the radio. /gustav >>> Jim.Hale at fleetpride.com 28-02-2008 22:03 >>> I've thought about learning dotnet but it took me so long to grasp classes when I picked up Access I don't have much hope of "getting it" before the clock runs out. After all, you can only stretch an accountant's mind so far before his head explodes.I'll be 57 next week. Maybe a second career as a Cognos consultant. :-) Quote of the day: "Artificial intelligence is no match for natural stupidity" Jim Hale -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of William Hindman Sent: Thursday, February 28, 2008 2:47 PM To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving Subject: Re: [AccessD] Retirement ...lol ...I've been "retired" since I was 48, Jim ...bored me near to death ...got a second life ...software consulting ...been damn good to me and those retirement checks smoothed out the rough edges in the early going ...see you on this side soon :))) William ps ...be damned good to see your humor back on OT ...Rocky tries but he desperately needs help :) From rosalyn.clarke at barclays.com Fri Feb 29 04:06:06 2008 From: rosalyn.clarke at barclays.com (rosalyn.clarke at barclays.com) Date: Fri, 29 Feb 2008 10:06:06 -0000 Subject: [AccessD] Retirement In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <0F978DF74B416B44A351B9143EB0FD33037D73BF@MUKPBCC1XMB0103.collab.barclayscorp.com> Congratulations on your retirement Jim. Have heaps of fun, whether it's .net related or not! Roz -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gustav Brock Sent: 29 February 2008 08:26 To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: Re: [AccessD] Retirement Hi Jim 57? I thought you were an old man! Now, get a 24" screen, a fast machine with 2 GB ram or more and fire up Visual Studio. Lots of fun! And - as William states - get rid of the TV set and all the temptating junk. Believe me, you won't miss it - news can be obtained via on-line services and the radio. /gustav >>> Jim.Hale at fleetpride.com 28-02-2008 22:03 >>> I've thought about learning dotnet but it took me so long to grasp classes when I picked up Access I don't have much hope of "getting it" before the clock runs out. After all, you can only stretch an accountant's mind so far before his head explodes.I'll be 57 next week. Maybe a second career as a Cognos consultant. :-) Quote of the day: "Artificial intelligence is no match for natural stupidity" Jim Hale -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of William Hindman Sent: Thursday, February 28, 2008 2:47 PM To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving Subject: Re: [AccessD] Retirement ...lol ...I've been "retired" since I was 48, Jim ...bored me near to death ...got a second life ...software consulting ...been damn good to me and those retirement checks smoothed out the rough edges in the early going ...see you on this side soon :))) William ps ...be damned good to see your humor back on OT ...Rocky tries but he desperately needs help :) -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com This e-mail and any attachments are confidential and intended solely for the addressee and may also be privileged or exempt from disclosure under applicable law. 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Barclays Bank PLC is authorised and regulated by the Financial Services Authority. From jimdettman at verizon.net Fri Feb 29 07:31:03 2008 From: jimdettman at verizon.net (Jim Dettman) Date: Fri, 29 Feb 2008 08:31:03 -0500 Subject: [AccessD] Retirement In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <023c01c87ad7$54d40ec0$8abea8c0@XPS> Jim, Gotta tell you, right now, I wish I was right there with you. If I had a sledge hammer in my hand there would be trouble. The last two weeks have been the pits. Why in my right mind I decided to focus on Microsoft products and their buggy software I'll never know. Anyway, enough with the rant; enjoy the retirement and good luck with the cards! Jim. -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Hale, Jim Sent: Thursday, February 28, 2008 3:28 PM To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: [AccessD] Retirement I was tired yesterday, I am tired today, and after tomorrow (2/29), I will be officially retired. Given what the market has done since I announced my retirement back in July this is the equivalent of diving into the pool headfirst before remembering to check for water. Hopefully it will work out. The ten years since I joined this list has zoomed by amazingly fast. It has been a blast. I thought about writing my memoirs but realized this would take only about an afternoon if I stretched it. Maybe I will write an expose "Code I have known and loved" and other trivia. Or perhaps I will hang around kind of as the ghost of Access past rattling the chains and scaring newbies. So much time, so little money! In any case after a six year hiatus its time to rejoin the OT list which, after all, was started to discuss Bush's election in 2000. But first a week in Vegas. See you guys in a week. Jim (Tx hold'em as a 2nd career) Hale *********************************************************************** The information transmitted is intended solely for the individual or entity to which it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or privileged material. Any review, retransmission, dissemination or other use of or taking action in reliance upon this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient is prohibited. If you have received this email in error please contact the sender and delete the material from any computer. As a recipient of this email, you are responsible for screening its contents and the contents of any attachments for the presence of viruses. No liability is accepted for any damages caused by any virus transmitted by this email. -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com Fri Feb 29 07:41:24 2008 From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (jwcolby) Date: Fri, 29 Feb 2008 08:41:24 -0500 Subject: [AccessD] Retirement In-Reply-To: <023c01c87ad7$54d40ec0$8abea8c0@XPS> References: <023c01c87ad7$54d40ec0$8abea8c0@XPS> Message-ID: <006701c87ad8$c73c46c0$0201a8c0@M90> >Why in my right mind I decided to focus on Microsoft products and their buggy software I'll never know. Because it feels so good when you stop... ;-) John W. Colby Colby Consulting www.ColbyConsulting.com -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim Dettman Sent: Friday, February 29, 2008 8:31 AM To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' Subject: Re: [AccessD] Retirement Jim, Gotta tell you, right now, I wish I was right there with you. If I had a sledge hammer in my hand there would be trouble. The last two weeks have been the pits. Why in my right mind I decided to focus on Microsoft products and their buggy software I'll never know. Anyway, enough with the rant; enjoy the retirement and good luck with the cards! Jim. -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Hale, Jim Sent: Thursday, February 28, 2008 3:28 PM To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: [AccessD] Retirement I was tired yesterday, I am tired today, and after tomorrow (2/29), I will be officially retired. Given what the market has done since I announced my retirement back in July this is the equivalent of diving into the pool headfirst before remembering to check for water. Hopefully it will work out. The ten years since I joined this list has zoomed by amazingly fast. It has been a blast. I thought about writing my memoirs but realized this would take only about an afternoon if I stretched it. Maybe I will write an expose "Code I have known and loved" and other trivia. Or perhaps I will hang around kind of as the ghost of Access past rattling the chains and scaring newbies. So much time, so little money! In any case after a six year hiatus its time to rejoin the OT list which, after all, was started to discuss Bush's election in 2000. But first a week in Vegas. See you guys in a week. Jim (Tx hold'em as a 2nd career) Hale *********************************************************************** The information transmitted is intended solely for the individual or entity to which it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or privileged material. Any review, retransmission, dissemination or other use of or taking action in reliance upon this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient is prohibited. If you have received this email in error please contact the sender and delete the material from any computer. As a recipient of this email, you are responsible for screening its contents and the contents of any attachments for the presence of viruses. No liability is accepted for any damages caused by any virus transmitted by this email. -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From joe at anamericanjoe.us Fri Feb 29 08:20:09 2008 From: joe at anamericanjoe.us (Joe Hecht) Date: Fri, 29 Feb 2008 06:20:09 -0800 Subject: [AccessD] Code Help Please Message-ID: <000b01c87ade$312a6710$6401a8c0@ACER2G> The following code is supposed warn when the value of a particular text gets changed. You almost never want the value changed after the record is created. Private Sub txtQBInvoice_BeforeUpdate(Cancel As Integer) If Me.txtQBInvoice = "" Then Else If Me.txtQBInvoice.Value <> Me.txtQBInvoice.OldValue Then Dim lngRetval As Long lngRetval = MsgBox( _ "The Quick Books Invoice Number has changed." & vbCrLf & "" & vbCrLf & "Do you want to change this Value?", _ vbYesNo + vbExclamation + vbDefaultButton2, _ "QB Invoice Number has been changed") Select Case lngRetval Case vbYes Me.txtQBInvoice.Value = Me.txtQBInvoice.Value Case vbNo Me.txtQBInvoice.Value = Me.txtQBInvoice.OldValue End Select End If End If End Sub I get error 2115 The Macro or function in the before update is preventing access from saving the record. This message occurs when I click the no button and debug hilites the case vbNo. What I want on the no click is for the value to be set to the old value and move to the next field. If this is a new record and there was no old value this check should not run. TIA Joe Hecht Joe at anamericanjoe.us From joe at anamericanjoe.us Fri Feb 29 08:23:13 2008 From: joe at anamericanjoe.us (Joe Hecht) Date: Fri, 29 Feb 2008 06:23:13 -0800 Subject: [AccessD] Code Help Please More Information Message-ID: <001001c87ade$9ecf6720$6401a8c0@ACER2G> I just saw I get the same error on case VB Yes. How can allow the change if that is what they really want to do? See the rest here. The following code is supposed warn when the value of a particular text gets changed. You almost never want the value changed after the record is created. Private Sub txtQBInvoice_BeforeUpdate(Cancel As Integer) If Me.txtQBInvoice = "" Then Else If Me.txtQBInvoice.Value <> Me.txtQBInvoice.OldValue Then Dim lngRetval As Long lngRetval = MsgBox( _ "The Quick Books Invoice Number has changed." & vbCrLf & "" & vbCrLf & "Do you want to change this Value?", _ vbYesNo + vbExclamation + vbDefaultButton2, _ "QB Invoice Number has been changed") Select Case lngRetval Case vbYes Me.txtQBInvoice.Value = Me.txtQBInvoice.Value Case vbNo Me.txtQBInvoice.Value = Me.txtQBInvoice.OldValue End Select End If End If End Sub I get error 2115 The Macro or function in the before update is preventing access from saving the record. This message occurs when I click the no button and debug hilites the case vbNo. What I want on the no click is for the value to be set to the old value and move to the next field. If this is a new record and there was no old value this check should not run. TIA Joe Hecht Joe at anamericanjoe.us Joe Hecht Joe at anamericanjoe.us From DWUTKA at Marlow.com Fri Feb 29 09:18:06 2008 From: DWUTKA at Marlow.com (Drew Wutka) Date: Fri, 29 Feb 2008 09:18:06 -0600 Subject: [AccessD] Code Help Please More Information In-Reply-To: <001001c87ade$9ecf6720$6401a8c0@ACER2G> Message-ID: Joe, I think you need to use the Cancel parameter, instead of changing the value (because the trigger is occurring while someone is changing the value). So either Cancel=True, or Cancel=False should do the trick. Drew -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Joe Hecht Sent: Friday, February 29, 2008 8:23 AM To: accessD at databaseadvisors.com Subject: [AccessD] Code Help Please More Information I just saw I get the same error on case VB Yes. How can allow the change if that is what they really want to do? See the rest here. The following code is supposed warn when the value of a particular text gets changed. You almost never want the value changed after the record is created. Private Sub txtQBInvoice_BeforeUpdate(Cancel As Integer) If Me.txtQBInvoice = "" Then Else If Me.txtQBInvoice.Value <> Me.txtQBInvoice.OldValue Then Dim lngRetval As Long lngRetval = MsgBox( _ "The Quick Books Invoice Number has changed." & vbCrLf & "" & vbCrLf & "Do you want to change this Value?", _ vbYesNo + vbExclamation + vbDefaultButton2, _ "QB Invoice Number has been changed") Select Case lngRetval Case vbYes Me.txtQBInvoice.Value = Me.txtQBInvoice.Value Case vbNo Me.txtQBInvoice.Value = Me.txtQBInvoice.OldValue End Select End If End If End Sub I get error 2115 The Macro or function in the before update is preventing access from saving the record. This message occurs when I click the no button and debug hilites the case vbNo. What I want on the no click is for the value to be set to the old value and move to the next field. If this is a new record and there was no old value this check should not run. TIA Joe Hecht Joe at anamericanjoe.us Joe Hecht Joe at anamericanjoe.us -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com The information contained in this transmission is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain II-VI Proprietary and/or II-VI Business Sensitive material. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender immediately and destroy the material in its entirety, whether electronic or hard copy. You are notified that any review, retransmission, copying, disclosure, dissemination, or other use of, or taking of any action in reliance upon this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient is prohibited. From Jim.Hale at FleetPride.com Fri Feb 29 09:54:53 2008 From: Jim.Hale at FleetPride.com (Hale, Jim) Date: Fri, 29 Feb 2008 09:54:53 -0600 Subject: [AccessD] OT: Friday retirement jokes /thoughts Message-ID: 'It is time I stepped aside for a less experienced and less able man.' Scott Elledge * The question isn't at what age I want to retire, it's at what income. George Foreman * There is an enormous number of managers who have retired on the job. Peter F. Drucker * I have never liked working. To me a job is an invasion of privacy. Danny McGoorty, Irish Pool Player A woman came home to find her retired husband waving a rolled up newspaper round his head. Wife: 'What are you doing dear?' Husband: 'Swatting flies - I got 3 males and 2 females' Wife: 'How do you know which gender they were?' Husband: 'Easy - 3 were on the beer, and the other 2 were on the phone' * 'The best time to start thinking about your retirement is before the boss does.' Anonymous * 'When a man retires and time is no longer a matter of urgent importance, his colleagues generally present him with a watch.' R C Sherriff. * 'Half our life is spent trying to find something to do with the time we have rushed through life trying to save.' Will Rogers, Autobiography, 1949. * 'When one door closes, another one opens, but we often look so long and regretfully at the closed door that we fail to see the one that has opened for us.' Alexander Graham Bell. *********************************************************************** The information transmitted is intended solely for the individual or entity to which it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or privileged material. Any review, retransmission, dissemination or other use of or taking action in reliance upon this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient is prohibited. If you have received this email in error please contact the sender and delete the material from any computer. As a recipient of this email, you are responsible for screening its contents and the contents of any attachments for the presence of viruses. No liability is accepted for any damages caused by any virus transmitted by this email. From markamatte at hotmail.com Fri Feb 29 11:26:59 2008 From: markamatte at hotmail.com (Mark A Matte) Date: Fri, 29 Feb 2008 17:26:59 +0000 Subject: [AccessD] Retirement In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Jim, Play any online hold'em? Mark A. Matte MarkAMatte on Pokerstars.Net and FullTilt.Net > Date: Thu, 28 Feb 2008 14:28:01 -0600 > From: Jim.Hale at fleetpride.com > To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com > Subject: [AccessD] Retirement > > > I was tired yesterday, I am tired today, and after tomorrow (2/29), I > will be officially retired. Given what the market has done since I > announced my retirement back in July this is the equivalent of diving > into the pool headfirst before remembering to check for water. > Hopefully it will work out. The ten years since I joined this list has > zoomed by amazingly fast. It has been a blast. I thought about writing > my memoirs but realized this would take only about an afternoon if I > stretched it. Maybe I will write an expose "Code I have known and loved" > and other trivia. Or perhaps I will hang around kind of as the ghost of > Access past rattling the chains and scaring newbies. So much time, so > little money! In any case after a six year hiatus its time to rejoin the > OT list which, after all, was started to discuss Bush's election in > 2000. But first a week in Vegas. See you guys in a week. > > Jim (Tx hold'em as a 2nd career) Hale > > > *********************************************************************** > The information transmitted is intended solely for the individual or > entity to which it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or > privileged material. Any review, retransmission, dissemination or > other use of or taking action in reliance upon this information by > persons or entities other than the intended recipient is prohibited. > If you have received this email in error please contact the sender and > delete the material from any computer. As a recipient of this email, > you are responsible for screening its contents and the contents of any > attachments for the presence of viruses. No liability is accepted for > any damages caused by any virus transmitted by this email. > -- > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com _________________________________________________________________ Climb to the top of the charts!?Play the word scramble challenge with star power. http://club.live.com/star_shuffle.aspx?icid=starshuffle_wlmailtextlink_jan From john at winhaven.net Fri Feb 29 11:54:56 2008 From: john at winhaven.net (John Bartow) Date: Fri, 29 Feb 2008 11:54:56 -0600 Subject: [AccessD] Retirement In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <200802291754.m1THsqTP027157@databaseadvisors.com> Good way to put it Jim, congratulations on your retirement! Best wishes in the future. Hope you stick around on some of our lists! :o) John Bartow, President Database Advisors, Inc. Email: mailto:president at databaseadvisors.com Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Hale, Jim Sent: Thursday, February 28, 2008 2:28 PM To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: [AccessD] Retirement I was tired yesterday, I am tired today, and after tomorrow (2/29), I will be officially retired. From DWUTKA at Marlow.com Fri Feb 29 11:57:37 2008 From: DWUTKA at Marlow.com (Drew Wutka) Date: Fri, 29 Feb 2008 11:57:37 -0600 Subject: [AccessD] Retirement In-Reply-To: Message-ID: I do, on pogo.com (they have a no limit hold'em with Joker's Wild! That's fun to play!) Drew -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Mark A Matte Sent: Friday, February 29, 2008 11:27 AM To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving Subject: Re: [AccessD] Retirement Jim, Play any online hold'em? Mark A. Matte MarkAMatte on Pokerstars.Net and FullTilt.Net > Date: Thu, 28 Feb 2008 14:28:01 -0600 > From: Jim.Hale at fleetpride.com > To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com > Subject: [AccessD] Retirement > > > I was tired yesterday, I am tired today, and after tomorrow (2/29), I > will be officially retired. Given what the market has done since I > announced my retirement back in July this is the equivalent of diving > into the pool headfirst before remembering to check for water. > Hopefully it will work out. The ten years since I joined this list has > zoomed by amazingly fast. It has been a blast. I thought about writing > my memoirs but realized this would take only about an afternoon if I > stretched it. Maybe I will write an expose "Code I have known and loved" > and other trivia. Or perhaps I will hang around kind of as the ghost of > Access past rattling the chains and scaring newbies. So much time, so > little money! In any case after a six year hiatus its time to rejoin the > OT list which, after all, was started to discuss Bush's election in > 2000. But first a week in Vegas. See you guys in a week. > > Jim (Tx hold'em as a 2nd career) Hale > > > *********************************************************************** > The information transmitted is intended solely for the individual or > entity to which it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or > privileged material. 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No liability is accepted for > any damages caused by any virus transmitted by this email. > -- > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com _________________________________________________________________ Climb to the top of the charts!?Play the word scramble challenge with star power. http://club.live.com/star_shuffle.aspx?icid=starshuffle_wlmailtextlink_jan -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com The information contained in this transmission is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain II-VI Proprietary and/or II-VI Business Sensitive material. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender immediately and destroy the material in its entirety, whether electronic or hard copy. You are notified that any review, retransmission, copying, disclosure, dissemination, or other use of, or taking of any action in reliance upon this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient is prohibited. From joeo at appoli.com Fri Feb 29 13:42:00 2008 From: joeo at appoli.com (Joe O'Connell) Date: Fri, 29 Feb 2008 14:42:00 -0500 Subject: [AccessD] OT Friday In-Reply-To: <47C46E21.4050107@mvps.org> References: <032901c87898$ca792c00$0401a8c0@M90> <47C457DD.9070208@mvps.org><033701c878a8$b5728800$0401a8c0@M90> <47C46E21.4050107@mvps.org> Message-ID: Shows that may be appearing on TV soon, as a result of the electronic and computer age: Modem, She Wrote: Each week, our intrepid detective tries to solve the ultimate mystery: why her modem won't ever connect at 56k. Micro-CHiPs: Ponch and Jon now patrol the Information Superhighway. Carly's Angels: Chief exec Carly Fiorina instructs her team of three vixen market analysts on how to prop up HP's sagging stock price. Hawaii 6.0: An upgraded version of the classic series. Steve McGarrett goes surfing for bad guys online. T. J. Hacker: A retired cop, with an uncanny resemblance to James T. Kirk, takes up computer hacking to track down the miscreants who canceled his TV show. The Excel Files: Inexplicable things are happening to the data in Microsoft Excel spreadsheets. Can this puzzle be solved? The truth is out there. The AOL-Team: Each week, AOL, Time Warner, Netscape, and Mr. TT unite to promote corporate mergers and make the world safe for capitalism. Magnum, PC: This series about a crime-solving personal computer that goes by the code name Deep Blue is based in beautiful Hawaii. Buffy the Virus Slayer: Buffy and her fearless gang of antivirus definitions stalk and kill VBS files-- no small feat while wearing a halter top and high-heeled boots. From eric.starkenburg at home.nl Fri Feb 29 15:19:11 2008 From: eric.starkenburg at home.nl (Eric Starkenburg) Date: Fri, 29 Feb 2008 22:19:11 +0100 Subject: [AccessD] Retirement In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <000001c87b18$ba4450d0$0501a8c0@PC2M> Happy retiring from The Netherlands Jim! Regards, Eric Starkenburg -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Hale, Jim Sent: Thursday, February 28, 2008 9:28 PM To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: [AccessD] Retirement I was tired yesterday, I am tired today, and after tomorrow (2/29), I will be officially retired. Given what the market has done since I announced my retirement back in July this is the equivalent of diving into the pool headfirst before remembering to check for water. Hopefully it will work out. The ten years since I joined this list has zoomed by amazingly fast. It has been a blast. I thought about writing my memoirs but realized this would take only about an afternoon if I stretched it. Maybe I will write an expose "Code I have known and loved" and other trivia. Or perhaps I will hang around kind of as the ghost of Access past rattling the chains and scaring newbies. So much time, so little money! In any case after a six year hiatus its time to rejoin the OT list which, after all, was started to discuss Bush's election in 2000. But first a week in Vegas. See you guys in a week. Jim (Tx hold'em as a 2nd career) Hale *********************************************************************** The information transmitted is intended solely for the individual or entity to which it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or privileged material. Any review, retransmission, dissemination or other use of or taking action in reliance upon this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient is prohibited. If you have received this email in error please contact the sender and delete the material from any computer. As a recipient of this email, you are responsible for screening its contents and the contents of any attachments for the presence of viruses. No liability is accepted for any damages caused by any virus transmitted by this email. -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com _____ avast! Antivirus : Uitgaande bericht is niet besmet. Virus Gegevensbestand (VPS): 080228-0, 28-02-2008 Getest op: 29-2-2008 22:19:11 avast! - auteursrecht (c) 1988-2008 ALWIL Software. From Jim.Hale at FleetPride.com Fri Feb 29 15:22:04 2008 From: Jim.Hale at FleetPride.com (Hale, Jim) Date: Fri, 29 Feb 2008 15:22:04 -0600 Subject: [AccessD] Retirement In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Not yet but I intend too. Jim H -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Mark A Matte Sent: Friday, February 29, 2008 11:27 AM To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving Subject: Re: [AccessD] Retirement Jim, Play any online hold'em? Mark A. Matte MarkAMatte on Pokerstars.Net and FullTilt.Net > Date: Thu, 28 Feb 2008 14:28:01 -0600 > From: Jim.Hale at fleetpride.com > To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com > Subject: [AccessD] Retirement > > > I was tired yesterday, I am tired today, and after tomorrow (2/29), I > will be officially retired. Given what the market has done since I > announced my retirement back in July this is the equivalent of diving > into the pool headfirst before remembering to check for water. > Hopefully it will work out. The ten years since I joined this list has > zoomed by amazingly fast. It has been a blast. I thought about writing > my memoirs but realized this would take only about an afternoon if I > stretched it. Maybe I will write an expose "Code I have known and loved" > and other trivia. Or perhaps I will hang around kind of as the ghost of > Access past rattling the chains and scaring newbies. So much time, so > little money! In any case after a six year hiatus its time to rejoin the > OT list which, after all, was started to discuss Bush's election in > 2000. But first a week in Vegas. See you guys in a week. > > Jim (Tx hold'em as a 2nd career) Hale > > > *********************************************************************** > The information transmitted is intended solely for the individual or > entity to which it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or > privileged material. Any review, retransmission, dissemination or > other use of or taking action in reliance upon this information by > persons or entities other than the intended recipient is prohibited. > If you have received this email in error please contact the sender and > delete the material from any computer. As a recipient of this email, > you are responsible for screening its contents and the contents of any > attachments for the presence of viruses. No liability is accepted for > any damages caused by any virus transmitted by this email. > -- > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com _________________________________________________________________ Climb to the top of the charts!?Play the word scramble challenge with star power. http://club.live.com/star_shuffle.aspx?icid=starshuffle_wlmailtextlink_jan -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com *********************************************************************** The information transmitted is intended solely for the individual or entity to which it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or privileged material. Any review, retransmission, dissemination or other use of or taking action in reliance upon this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient is prohibited. If you have received this email in error please contact the sender and delete the material from any computer. As a recipient of this email, you are responsible for screening its contents and the contents of any attachments for the presence of viruses. No liability is accepted for any damages caused by any virus transmitted by this email. From robert at servicexp.com Fri Feb 29 15:43:37 2008 From: robert at servicexp.com (Robert) Date: Fri, 29 Feb 2008 16:43:37 -0500 Subject: [AccessD] Progress Meter ? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <47C87C89.3070400@servicexp.com> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Hooooowdy All, Preface: ~ I'm downloading, from ftp. The class raises an event which contains mBytesTransferred. mFileSize is the total size of the file being downloaded. shpProgContainer is a rectangle thats "behind" the shpProg. shpProg is a rectangle that is used as the meter. ~ Can anyone tell me why this doesn't work.. I get an Error 6 Overflow when downloading large files. shpProg.Width = (shpProgContainer.Width * mBytesTransferred) / mFileSize If I Debug.Print "Bar: " & shpProg.Width & " BarContainer: " & shpProgContainer.Width & " Bytes: " & mBytesTransferred & " FileSize: " & mFileSize I get Bar: 128 BarContainer: 3270 Bytes: 350192 FileSize: 8981235 Bar: 128 BarContainer: 3270 Bytes: 352240 FileSize: 8981235 Bar: 129 BarContainer: 3270 Bytes: 353584 FileSize: 8981235 Bar: 129 BarContainer: 3270 Bytes: 355632 FileSize: 8981235 Bar: 130 BarContainer: 3270 Bytes: 357680 FileSize: 8981235 Bar: 131 BarContainer: 3270 Bytes: 359024 FileSize: 8981235 Bar: 131 BarContainer: 3270 Bytes: 360384 FileSize: 8981235 Bar: 131 BarContainer: 3270 Bytes: 360448 FileSize: 8981235 Bar: 132 BarContainer: 3270 Bytes: 361808 FileSize: 8981235 Bar: 132 BarContainer: 3270 Bytes: 363168 FileSize: 8981235 Bar: 133 BarContainer: 3270 Bytes: 364528 FileSize: 8981235 Bar: 133 BarContainer: 3270 Bytes: 366576 FileSize: 8981235 Bar: 134 BarContainer: 3270 Bytes: 368624 FileSize: 8981235 Bar: 135 BarContainer: 3270 Bytes: 370672 FileSize: 8981235 Bar: 136 BarContainer: 3270 Bytes: 372720 FileSize: 8981235 Bar: 136 BarContainer: 3270 Bytes: 374048 FileSize: 8981235 Bar: 137 BarContainer: 3270 Bytes: 376096 FileSize: 8981235 Bar: 137 BarContainer: 3270 Bytes: 376768 FileSize: 8981235 Bar: 137 BarContainer: 3270 Bytes: 376832 FileSize: 8981235 Bar: 138 BarContainer: 3270 Bytes: 378192 FileSize: 8981235 Bar: 138 BarContainer: 3270 Bytes: 380240 FileSize: 8981235 Bar: 139 BarContainer: 3270 Bytes: 382288 FileSize: 8981235 Bar: 140 BarContainer: 3270 Bytes: 384336 FileSize: 8981235 Bar: 141 BarContainer: 3270 Bytes: 386384 FileSize: 8981235 Bar: 141 BarContainer: 3270 Bytes: 387712 FileSize: 8981235 Bar: 142 BarContainer: 3270 Bytes: 389760 FileSize: 8981235 Bar: 143 BarContainer: 3270 Bytes: 391792 FileSize: 8981235 Bar: 143 BarContainer: 3270 Bytes: 393152 FileSize: 8981235 Bar: 143 BarContainer: 3270 Bytes: 393216 FileSize: 8981235 Bar: 144 BarContainer: 3270 Bytes: 394576 FileSize: 8981235 Bar: 144 BarContainer: 3270 Bytes: 396624 FileSize: 8981235 Bar: 145 BarContainer: 3270 Bytes: 397296 FileSize: 8981235 Bar: 145 BarContainer: 3270 Bytes: 398656 FileSize: 8981235 Bar: 146 BarContainer: 3270 Bytes: 400704 FileSize: 8981235 Bar: 147 BarContainer: 3270 Bytes: 402752 FileSize: 8981235 Bar: 147 BarContainer: 3270 Bytes: 404800 FileSize: 8981235 Bar: 148 BarContainer: 3270 Bytes: 406816 FileSize: 8981235 Bar: 149 BarContainer: 3270 Bytes: 408864 FileSize: 8981235 Bar: 149 BarContainer: 3270 Bytes: 409536 FileSize: 8981235 Bar: 149 BarContainer: 3270 Bytes: 409600 FileSize: 8981235 Bar: 150 BarContainer: 3270 Bytes: 410960 FileSize: 8981235 Bar: 150 BarContainer: 3270 Bytes: 412320 FileSize: 8981235 Bar: 151 BarContainer: 3270 Bytes: 414368 FileSize: 8981235 Bar: 152 BarContainer: 3270 Bytes: 416400 FileSize: 8981235 Bar: 152 BarContainer: 3270 Bytes: 418448 FileSize: 8981235 Bar: 153 BarContainer: 3270 Bytes: 420496 FileSize: 8981235 Bar: 154 BarContainer: 3270 Bytes: 421840 FileSize: 8981235 Bar: 154 BarContainer: 3270 Bytes: 423888 FileSize: 8981235 Bar: 155 BarContainer: 3270 Bytes: 425920 FileSize: 8981235 Bar: 155 BarContainer: 3270 Bytes: 425984 FileSize: 8981235 Bar: 156 BarContainer: 3270 Bytes: 427344 FileSize: 8981235 Bar: 156 BarContainer: 3270 Bytes: 429392 FileSize: 8981235 Bar: 157 BarContainer: 3270 Bytes: 430064 FileSize: 8981235 Bar: 157 BarContainer: 3270 Bytes: 431424 FileSize: 8981235 Bar: 158 BarContainer: 3270 Bytes: 433472 FileSize: 8981235 Bar: 158 BarContainer: 3270 Bytes: 434144 FileSize: 8981235 Bar: 159 BarContainer: 3270 Bytes: 436192 FileSize: 8981235 Bar: 160 BarContainer: 3270 Bytes: 438240 FileSize: 8981235 Bar: 160 BarContainer: 3270 Bytes: 439584 FileSize: 8981235 Bar: 161 BarContainer: 3270 Bytes: 441632 FileSize: 8981235 Bar: 161 BarContainer: 3270 Bytes: 442304 FileSize: 8981235 Bar: 161 BarContainer: 3270 Bytes: 442368 FileSize: 8981235 Bar: 162 BarContainer: 3270 Bytes: 443728 FileSize: 8981235 Bar: 162 BarContainer: 3270 Bytes: 445776 FileSize: 8981235 Bar: 163 BarContainer: 3270 Bytes: 446448 FileSize: 8981235 Bar: 163 BarContainer: 3270 Bytes: 447808 FileSize: 8981235 Bar: 164 BarContainer: 3270 Bytes: 449856 FileSize: 8981235 Bar: 165 BarContainer: 3270 Bytes: 451888 FileSize: 8981235 Bar: 165 BarContainer: 3270 Bytes: 453936 FileSize: 8981235 Bar: 166 BarContainer: 3270 Bytes: 455968 FileSize: 8981235 Bar: 167 BarContainer: 3270 Bytes: 458016 FileSize: 8981235 Bar: 167 BarContainer: 3270 Bytes: 458688 FileSize: 8981235 Bar: 167 BarContainer: 3270 Bytes: 458752 FileSize: 8981235 Bar: 168 BarContainer: 3270 Bytes: 460112 FileSize: 8981235 Bar: 168 BarContainer: 3270 Bytes: 462160 FileSize: 8981235 Bar: 169 BarContainer: 3270 Bytes: 462832 FileSize: 8981235 Bar: 169 BarContainer: 3270 Bytes: 464880 FileSize: 8981235 Bar: 170 BarContainer: 3270 Bytes: 466912 FileSize: 8981235 Bar: 171 BarContainer: 3270 Bytes: 468960 FileSize: 8981235 Bar: 171 BarContainer: 3270 Bytes: 471008 FileSize: 8981235 Bar: 172 BarContainer: 3270 Bytes: 472352 FileSize: 8981235 Bar: 173 BarContainer: 3270 Bytes: 474400 FileSize: 8981235 Bar: 173 BarContainer: 3270 Bytes: 475072 FileSize: 8981235 Bar: 173 BarContainer: 3270 Bytes: 475136 FileSize: 8981235 Bar: 173 BarContainer: 3270 Bytes: 476496 FileSize: 8981235 Bar: 174 BarContainer: 3270 Bytes: 478544 FileSize: 8981235 Bar: 175 BarContainer: 3270 Bytes: 480576 FileSize: 8981235 Bar: 176 BarContainer: 3270 Bytes: 482624 FileSize: 8981235 Bar: 176 BarContainer: 3270 Bytes: 484656 FileSize: 8981235 Bar: 177 BarContainer: 3270 Bytes: 486704 FileSize: 8981235 Bar: 178 BarContainer: 3270 Bytes: 488752 FileSize: 8981235 Bar: 178 BarContainer: 3270 Bytes: 490096 FileSize: 8981235 Bar: 179 BarContainer: 3270 Bytes: 491456 FileSize: 8981235 Bar: 179 BarContainer: 3270 Bytes: 492816 FileSize: 8981235 Bar: 180 BarContainer: 3270 Bytes: 494864 FileSize: 8981235 Bar: 180 BarContainer: 3270 Bytes: 495536 FileSize: 8981235 Bar: 181 BarContainer: 3270 Bytes: 496896 FileSize: 8981235 Bar: 182 BarContainer: 3270 Bytes: 498944 FileSize: 8981235 Bar: 182 BarContainer: 3270 Bytes: 499616 FileSize: 8981235 Bar: 183 BarContainer: 3270 Bytes: 501664 FileSize: 8981235 Bar: 183 BarContainer: 3270 Bytes: 503712 FileSize: 8981235 Bar: 184 BarContainer: 3270 Bytes: 505056 FileSize: 8981235 Bar: 185 BarContainer: 3270 Bytes: 507104 FileSize: 8981235 Bar: 185 BarContainer: 3270 Bytes: 507904 FileSize: 8981235 Bar: 185 BarContainer: 3270 Bytes: 509264 FileSize: 8981235 Bar: 186 BarContainer: 3270 Bytes: 510624 FileSize: 8981235 Bar: 187 BarContainer: 3270 Bytes: 512672 FileSize: 8981235 Bar: 187 BarContainer: 3270 Bytes: 514720 FileSize: 8981235 Bar: 188 BarContainer: 3270 Bytes: 516768 FileSize: 8981235 Bar: 189 BarContainer: 3270 Bytes: 518816 FileSize: 8981235 Bar: 189 BarContainer: 3270 Bytes: 520144 FileSize: 8981235 Bar: 190 BarContainer: 3270 Bytes: 522192 FileSize: 8981235 Bar: 191 BarContainer: 3270 Bytes: 524240 FileSize: 8981235 Bar: 191 BarContainer: 3270 Bytes: 524288 FileSize: 8981235 Bar: 191 BarContainer: 3270 Bytes: 525648 FileSize: 8981235 Bar: 192 BarContainer: 3270 Bytes: 527696 FileSize: 8981235 Bar: 192 BarContainer: 3270 Bytes: 528368 FileSize: 8981235 Bar: 193 BarContainer: 3270 Bytes: 529728 FileSize: 8981235 Bar: 193 BarContainer: 3270 Bytes: 531088 FileSize: 8981235 Bar: 194 BarContainer: 3270 Bytes: 532448 FileSize: 8981235 Bar: 194 BarContainer: 3270 Bytes: 533808 FileSize: 8981235 Bar: 195 BarContainer: 3270 Bytes: 535168 FileSize: 8981235 Bar: 195 BarContainer: 3270 Bytes: 536528 FileSize: 8981235 Bar: 196 BarContainer: 3270 Bytes: 537888 FileSize: 8981235 Bar: 196 BarContainer: 3270 Bytes: 539248 FileSize: 8981235 Bar: 197 BarContainer: 3270 Bytes: 540608 FileSize: 8981235 Bar: 197 BarContainer: 3270 Bytes: 541968 FileSize: 8981235 Bar: 198 BarContainer: 3270 Bytes: 543328 FileSize: 8981235 Bar: 198 BarContainer: 3270 Bytes: 544688 FileSize: 8981235 Bar: 199 BarContainer: 3270 Bytes: 546048 FileSize: 8981235 Bar: 200 BarContainer: 3270 Bytes: 548096 FileSize: 8981235 Bar: 200 BarContainer: 3270 Bytes: 550144 FileSize: 8981235 Bar: 201 BarContainer: 3270 Bytes: 552192 FileSize: 8981235 Bar: 201 BarContainer: 3270 Bytes: 552848 FileSize: 8981235 Bar: 202 BarContainer: 3270 Bytes: 554208 FileSize: 8981235 Bar: 203 BarContainer: 3270 Bytes: 556256 FileSize: 8981235 Bar: 203 BarContainer: 3270 Bytes: 556928 FileSize: 8981235 Bar: 203 BarContainer: 3270 Bytes: 558288 FileSize: 8981235 Bar: 204 BarContainer: 3270 Bytes: 560336 FileSize: 8981235 Bar: 204 BarContainer: 3270 Bytes: 561008 FileSize: 8981235 Bar: 205 BarContainer: 3270 Bytes: 563056 FileSize: 8981235 Bar: 206 BarContainer: 3270 Bytes: 565104 FileSize: 8981235 Bar: 206 BarContainer: 3270 Bytes: 566448 FileSize: 8981235 Bar: 207 BarContainer: 3270 Bytes: 568496 FileSize: 8981235 Bar: 207 BarContainer: 3270 Bytes: 569168 FileSize: 8981235 Bar: 208 BarContainer: 3270 Bytes: 570528 FileSize: 8981235 Bar: 208 BarContainer: 3270 Bytes: 571888 FileSize: 8981235 Bar: 209 BarContainer: 3270 Bytes: 573936 FileSize: 8981235 Bar: 209 BarContainer: 3270 Bytes: 574608 FileSize: 8981235 Bar: 210 BarContainer: 3270 Bytes: 576656 FileSize: 8981235 Bar: 211 BarContainer: 3270 Bytes: 578704 FileSize: 8981235 Bar: 211 BarContainer: 3270 Bytes: 580048 FileSize: 8981235 Bar: 212 BarContainer: 3270 Bytes: 582096 FileSize: 8981235 Bar: 212 BarContainer: 3270 Bytes: 582768 FileSize: 8981235 Bar: 213 BarContainer: 3270 Bytes: 584816 FileSize: 8981235 Bar: 214 BarContainer: 3270 Bytes: 586864 FileSize: 8981235 Bar: 214 BarContainer: 3270 Bytes: 588912 FileSize: 8981235 Bar: 215 BarContainer: 3270 Bytes: 589824 FileSize: 8981235 Bar: 215 BarContainer: 3270 Bytes: 591184 FileSize: 8981235 Bar: 216 BarContainer: 3270 Bytes: 592544 FileSize: 8981235 Bar: 216 BarContainer: 3270 Bytes: 594592 FileSize: 8981235 Bar: 217 BarContainer: 3270 Bytes: 596640 FileSize: 8981235 Bar: 218 BarContainer: 3270 Bytes: 597984 FileSize: 8981235 Bar: 218 BarContainer: 3270 Bytes: 600032 FileSize: 8981235 Bar: 219 BarContainer: 3270 Bytes: 602080 FileSize: 8981235 Bar: 220 BarContainer: 3270 Bytes: 603424 FileSize: 8981235 Bar: 220 BarContainer: 3270 Bytes: 605472 FileSize: 8981235 Bar: 221 BarContainer: 3270 Bytes: 606144 FileSize: 8981235 Bar: 221 BarContainer: 3270 Bytes: 607504 FileSize: 8981235 Bar: 222 BarContainer: 3270 Bytes: 608864 FileSize: 8981235 Bar: 222 BarContainer: 3270 Bytes: 610224 FileSize: 8981235 Bar: 223 BarContainer: 3270 Bytes: 612272 FileSize: 8981235 Bar: 224 BarContainer: 3270 Bytes: 614304 FileSize: 8981235 Bar: 224 BarContainer: 3270 Bytes: 616352 FileSize: 8981235 Bar: 225 BarContainer: 3270 Bytes: 618400 FileSize: 8981235 Bar: 226 BarContainer: 3270 Bytes: 619744 FileSize: 8981235 Bar: 226 BarContainer: 3270 Bytes: 621792 FileSize: 8981235 Bar: 227 BarContainer: 3270 Bytes: 622592 FileSize: 8981235 Bar: 227 BarContainer: 3270 Bytes: 623952 FileSize: 8981235 Bar: 228 BarContainer: 3270 Bytes: 625312 FileSize: 8981235 Bar: 228 BarContainer: 3270 Bytes: 626672 FileSize: 8981235 Bar: 229 BarContainer: 3270 Bytes: 628720 FileSize: 8981235 Bar: 230 BarContainer: 3270 Bytes: 630768 FileSize: 8981235 Bar: 230 BarContainer: 3270 Bytes: 632816 FileSize: 8981235 Bar: 231 BarContainer: 3270 Bytes: 634864 FileSize: 8981235 Bar: 232 BarContainer: 3270 Bytes: 636912 FileSize: 8981235 Bar: 233 BarContainer: 3270 Bytes: 638960 FileSize: 8981235 Bar: 233 BarContainer: 3270 Bytes: 638976 FileSize: 8981235 Bar: 233 BarContainer: 3270 Bytes: 640336 FileSize: 8981235 Bar: 234 BarContainer: 3270 Bytes: 641696 FileSize: 8981235 Bar: 234 BarContainer: 3270 Bytes: 643744 FileSize: 8981235 Bar: 235 BarContainer: 3270 Bytes: 645776 FileSize: 8981235 Bar: 236 BarContainer: 3270 Bytes: 647136 FileSize: 8981235 Bar: 236 BarContainer: 3270 Bytes: 649184 FileSize: 8981235 Bar: 237 BarContainer: 3270 Bytes: 651216 FileSize: 8981235 Bar: 238 BarContainer: 3270 Bytes: 653264 FileSize: 8981235 Bar: 239 BarContainer: 3270 Bytes: 655296 FileSize: 8981235 Bar: 239 BarContainer: 3270 Bytes: 655360 FileSize: 8981235 Bar: 239 BarContainer: 3270 Bytes: 656720 FileSize: 8981235 Fails on the next event. TYIA ~Robert -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.7 (MingW32) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFHyHyJ72dSYCwH8FQRAi5gAKCad4+M6omZ4WjPaaQxAYzriLU7lQCgtVO/ 5DrT0PfyqE+/oG8U1F85E4o= =N4MQ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From fuller.artful at gmail.com Fri Feb 29 15:50:31 2008 From: fuller.artful at gmail.com (Arthur Fuller) Date: Fri, 29 Feb 2008 13:50:31 -0800 Subject: [AccessD] Code Help Please In-Reply-To: <000b01c87ade$312a6710$6401a8c0@ACER2G> References: <000b01c87ade$312a6710$6401a8c0@ACER2G> Message-ID: <29f585dd0802291350r3a9bbbecmc071acc0fc47ffbb@mail.gmail.com> I'm not sure, Joe, but since you only have two choices, you could either replace the Select Case approach with an If/Else/End If or just change the second Case to Case Else. Either should work as you want. hth, Arthur On Fri, Feb 29, 2008 at 6:20 AM, Joe Hecht wrote: > The following code is supposed warn when the value of a particular text > gets > changed. You almost never want the value changed after the record is > created. > > > > > > Private Sub txtQBInvoice_BeforeUpdate(Cancel As Integer) > > If Me.txtQBInvoice = "" Then > > Else > > If Me.txtQBInvoice.Value <> Me.txtQBInvoice.OldValue Then > > Dim lngRetval As Long > > > > lngRetval = MsgBox( _ > > "The Quick Books Invoice Number has changed." & vbCrLf & "" & vbCrLf & > "Do you want to change this Value?", _ > > vbYesNo + vbExclamation + vbDefaultButton2, _ > > "QB Invoice Number has been changed") > > > > Select Case lngRetval > > Case vbYes > > Me.txtQBInvoice.Value = Me.txtQBInvoice.Value > > > > Case vbNo > > Me.txtQBInvoice.Value = Me.txtQBInvoice.OldValue > > > > End Select > > > > End If > > End If > > > > End Sub > > > > I get error 2115 The Macro or function in the before update is preventing > access from saving the record. This message occurs when I click the no > button and debug hilites the case vbNo. > > > > What I want on the no click is for the value to be set to the old value > and > move to the next field. > > > > If this is a new record and there was no old value this check should not > run. > > > > TIA > > > > Joe Hecht > > Joe at anamericanjoe.us > > From robert at servicexp.com Fri Feb 29 19:11:52 2008 From: robert at servicexp.com (Robert) Date: Fri, 29 Feb 2008 20:11:52 -0500 Subject: [AccessD] Progress Meter ? In-Reply-To: <47C87C89.3070400@servicexp.com> References: <47C87C89.3070400@servicexp.com> Message-ID: <47C8AD58.3090704@servicexp.com> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 ~ Anyone?? WBR Robert Robert wrote: | Hooooowdy All, | | Preface: | ~ I'm downloading, from ftp. The class raises an event which contains | mBytesTransferred. | | mFileSize is the total size of the file being downloaded. | shpProgContainer is a rectangle thats "behind" the shpProg. | shpProg is a rectangle that is used as the meter. | | ~ Can anyone tell me why this doesn't work.. I get an Error 6 Overflow | when downloading large files. | | | shpProg.Width = (shpProgContainer.Width * mBytesTransferred) / mFileSize | | | If I Debug.Print "Bar: " & shpProg.Width & " BarContainer: " & | shpProgContainer.Width & " Bytes: " & mBytesTransferred & " FileSize: " | & mFileSize | | I get | | Bar: 128 BarContainer: 3270 Bytes: 350192 FileSize: 8981235 | Bar: 128 BarContainer: 3270 Bytes: 352240 FileSize: 8981235 | Bar: 129 BarContainer: 3270 Bytes: 353584 FileSize: 8981235 | Bar: 129 BarContainer: 3270 Bytes: 355632 FileSize: 8981235 | Bar: 130 BarContainer: 3270 Bytes: 357680 FileSize: 8981235 | Bar: 131 BarContainer: 3270 Bytes: 359024 FileSize: 8981235 | Bar: 131 BarContainer: 3270 Bytes: 360384 FileSize: 8981235 | Bar: 131 BarContainer: 3270 Bytes: 360448 FileSize: 8981235 | Bar: 132 BarContainer: 3270 Bytes: 361808 FileSize: 8981235 | Bar: 132 BarContainer: 3270 Bytes: 363168 FileSize: 8981235 | Bar: 133 BarContainer: 3270 Bytes: 364528 FileSize: 8981235 | Bar: 133 BarContainer: 3270 Bytes: 366576 FileSize: 8981235 | Bar: 134 BarContainer: 3270 Bytes: 368624 FileSize: 8981235 | Bar: 135 BarContainer: 3270 Bytes: 370672 FileSize: 8981235 | Bar: 136 BarContainer: 3270 Bytes: 372720 FileSize: 8981235 | Bar: 136 BarContainer: 3270 Bytes: 374048 FileSize: 8981235 | Bar: 137 BarContainer: 3270 Bytes: 376096 FileSize: 8981235 | Bar: 137 BarContainer: 3270 Bytes: 376768 FileSize: 8981235 | Bar: 137 BarContainer: 3270 Bytes: 376832 FileSize: 8981235 | Bar: 138 BarContainer: 3270 Bytes: 378192 FileSize: 8981235 | Bar: 138 BarContainer: 3270 Bytes: 380240 FileSize: 8981235 | Bar: 139 BarContainer: 3270 Bytes: 382288 FileSize: 8981235 | Bar: 140 BarContainer: 3270 Bytes: 384336 FileSize: 8981235 | Bar: 141 BarContainer: 3270 Bytes: 386384 FileSize: 8981235 | Bar: 141 BarContainer: 3270 Bytes: 387712 FileSize: 8981235 | Bar: 142 BarContainer: 3270 Bytes: 389760 FileSize: 8981235 | Bar: 143 BarContainer: 3270 Bytes: 391792 FileSize: 8981235 | Bar: 143 BarContainer: 3270 Bytes: 393152 FileSize: 8981235 | Bar: 143 BarContainer: 3270 Bytes: 393216 FileSize: 8981235 | Bar: 144 BarContainer: 3270 Bytes: 394576 FileSize: 8981235 | Bar: 144 BarContainer: 3270 Bytes: 396624 FileSize: 8981235 | Bar: 145 BarContainer: 3270 Bytes: 397296 FileSize: 8981235 | Bar: 145 BarContainer: 3270 Bytes: 398656 FileSize: 8981235 | Bar: 146 BarContainer: 3270 Bytes: 400704 FileSize: 8981235 | Bar: 147 BarContainer: 3270 Bytes: 402752 FileSize: 8981235 | Bar: 147 BarContainer: 3270 Bytes: 404800 FileSize: 8981235 | Bar: 148 BarContainer: 3270 Bytes: 406816 FileSize: 8981235 | Bar: 149 BarContainer: 3270 Bytes: 408864 FileSize: 8981235 | Bar: 149 BarContainer: 3270 Bytes: 409536 FileSize: 8981235 | Bar: 149 BarContainer: 3270 Bytes: 409600 FileSize: 8981235 | Bar: 150 BarContainer: 3270 Bytes: 410960 FileSize: 8981235 | Bar: 150 BarContainer: 3270 Bytes: 412320 FileSize: 8981235 | Bar: 151 BarContainer: 3270 Bytes: 414368 FileSize: 8981235 | Bar: 152 BarContainer: 3270 Bytes: 416400 FileSize: 8981235 | Bar: 152 BarContainer: 3270 Bytes: 418448 FileSize: 8981235 | Bar: 153 BarContainer: 3270 Bytes: 420496 FileSize: 8981235 | Bar: 154 BarContainer: 3270 Bytes: 421840 FileSize: 8981235 | Bar: 154 BarContainer: 3270 Bytes: 423888 FileSize: 8981235 | Bar: 155 BarContainer: 3270 Bytes: 425920 FileSize: 8981235 | Bar: 155 BarContainer: 3270 Bytes: 425984 FileSize: 8981235 | Bar: 156 BarContainer: 3270 Bytes: 427344 FileSize: 8981235 | Bar: 156 BarContainer: 3270 Bytes: 429392 FileSize: 8981235 | Bar: 157 BarContainer: 3270 Bytes: 430064 FileSize: 8981235 | Bar: 157 BarContainer: 3270 Bytes: 431424 FileSize: 8981235 | Bar: 158 BarContainer: 3270 Bytes: 433472 FileSize: 8981235 | Bar: 158 BarContainer: 3270 Bytes: 434144 FileSize: 8981235 | Bar: 159 BarContainer: 3270 Bytes: 436192 FileSize: 8981235 | Bar: 160 BarContainer: 3270 Bytes: 438240 FileSize: 8981235 | Bar: 160 BarContainer: 3270 Bytes: 439584 FileSize: 8981235 | Bar: 161 BarContainer: 3270 Bytes: 441632 FileSize: 8981235 | Bar: 161 BarContainer: 3270 Bytes: 442304 FileSize: 8981235 | Bar: 161 BarContainer: 3270 Bytes: 442368 FileSize: 8981235 | Bar: 162 BarContainer: 3270 Bytes: 443728 FileSize: 8981235 | Bar: 162 BarContainer: 3270 Bytes: 445776 FileSize: 8981235 | Bar: 163 BarContainer: 3270 Bytes: 446448 FileSize: 8981235 | Bar: 163 BarContainer: 3270 Bytes: 447808 FileSize: 8981235 | Bar: 164 BarContainer: 3270 Bytes: 449856 FileSize: 8981235 | Bar: 165 BarContainer: 3270 Bytes: 451888 FileSize: 8981235 | Bar: 165 BarContainer: 3270 Bytes: 453936 FileSize: 8981235 | Bar: 166 BarContainer: 3270 Bytes: 455968 FileSize: 8981235 | Bar: 167 BarContainer: 3270 Bytes: 458016 FileSize: 8981235 | Bar: 167 BarContainer: 3270 Bytes: 458688 FileSize: 8981235 | Bar: 167 BarContainer: 3270 Bytes: 458752 FileSize: 8981235 | Bar: 168 BarContainer: 3270 Bytes: 460112 FileSize: 8981235 | Bar: 168 BarContainer: 3270 Bytes: 462160 FileSize: 8981235 | Bar: 169 BarContainer: 3270 Bytes: 462832 FileSize: 8981235 | Bar: 169 BarContainer: 3270 Bytes: 464880 FileSize: 8981235 | Bar: 170 BarContainer: 3270 Bytes: 466912 FileSize: 8981235 | Bar: 171 BarContainer: 3270 Bytes: 468960 FileSize: 8981235 | Bar: 171 BarContainer: 3270 Bytes: 471008 FileSize: 8981235 | Bar: 172 BarContainer: 3270 Bytes: 472352 FileSize: 8981235 | Bar: 173 BarContainer: 3270 Bytes: 474400 FileSize: 8981235 | Bar: 173 BarContainer: 3270 Bytes: 475072 FileSize: 8981235 | Bar: 173 BarContainer: 3270 Bytes: 475136 FileSize: 8981235 | Bar: 173 BarContainer: 3270 Bytes: 476496 FileSize: 8981235 | Bar: 174 BarContainer: 3270 Bytes: 478544 FileSize: 8981235 | Bar: 175 BarContainer: 3270 Bytes: 480576 FileSize: 8981235 | Bar: 176 BarContainer: 3270 Bytes: 482624 FileSize: 8981235 | Bar: 176 BarContainer: 3270 Bytes: 484656 FileSize: 8981235 | Bar: 177 BarContainer: 3270 Bytes: 486704 FileSize: 8981235 | Bar: 178 BarContainer: 3270 Bytes: 488752 FileSize: 8981235 | Bar: 178 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=IDef -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From joe at anamericanjoe.us Fri Feb 29 20:20:57 2008 From: joe at anamericanjoe.us (Joe Hecht) Date: Fri, 29 Feb 2008 18:20:57 -0800 Subject: [AccessD] Code help Almost there Message-ID: <000001c87b42$e30283f0$6401a8c0@ACER2G> Thanks Drew, I have three books on my desk, looked at help and still can not find this one. In the case no block, I need to send the escape key. Everything I see says send keys is a macro. I can not find the code. TIA Joe Private Sub txtQBInvoice_BeforeUpdate(Cancel As Integer) If Me.txtQBInvoice = "" Then Else If Me.txtQBInvoice.Value <> Me.txtQBInvoice.OldValue Then Dim lngRetval As Long lngRetval = MsgBox( _ "The Quick Books Invoice Number has changed." & vbCrLf & "" & vbCrLf & "Do you want to change this Value?", _ vbYesNo + vbExclamation + vbDefaultButton2, _ "QB Invoice Number has been changed") Select Case lngRetval Case vbYes Cancel = False Case vbNo Cancel = True ' SendKeys (esc) End Select End If End If End Sub Joe Hecht Joe at anamericanjoe.us From joe at anamericanjoe.us Fri Feb 29 21:04:08 2008 From: joe at anamericanjoe.us (Joe Hecht) Date: Fri, 29 Feb 2008 19:04:08 -0800 Subject: [AccessD] (no subject) In-Reply-To: <022520081734.4098.47C2FC3C0008B128000010022215553894040A079B9C020A9C019D05@comcast.net> References: <022520081734.4098.47C2FC3C0008B128000010022215553894040A079B9C020A9C019D05@comcast.net> Message-ID: <000501c87b48$eaf02e90$6401a8c0@ACER2G> Hi Karen, I hope I am not too late to help. You can use the combo box wizard. Draw the combo in the form header. I think it is the third option. Set form to record based on combo box selection. Walk all the way through the wizard. In the row source (I think) on the data properties tab. This is query builder. This where I forgot some create a field called Patient Name ( or what ever you want) = Lname&", "&fname&" "&Mname Have it sort acending. When some one selects a patient the form populates with there data. HTH Joe Hecht Joe at anamericanjoe.us -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of krosenstiel at comcast.net Sent: Monday, February 25, 2008 9:35 AM To: DBA-AccessD Subject: [AccessD] (no subject) >From a patient database in Access 2003, I want to pick the right patient for a report of individual details. I have fields Lname, Fname and Mname. In the query on the Lname field I have the following as the criteria: Like "*" & [Enter Last Name] & "*" This works fine to pick all the Johnsons, including "Johnson, Jr." However, the report is then returning all the Johnsons in sequence, but I only want 1 particular Johnson with his/her individual details. How do I get the query to give me a list of "Johnsons," including first and middle names, from which I can pick the right patient to plop into the report? MTIA -- and please keep it simple, I'm not very advanced with Access -- Karen Rosenstiel Seattle WA USA -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com