Shamil Salakhetdinov
shamil at users.mns.ru
Sun Jan 27 14:13:37 CST 2008
Peter Vogel's article could have been about VS.NET2003/.NET Framework 1.1 - I'd think that VS2005/.NET Framework 2.0 is as RAD as MS Access but much more powerful and scalable and quick and stable, when doing advanced programming... VS2005 Professional version has Crystal Reports (CR), and CR runtime is free. And CR allows making much trickier reports than MS Access Report engine does. Although CR in VS2005 professional has limited IDE design features comparing with full CR version but only design features are limited all the rest is same as in full CR version... Another MS Web technology is called ATL Server - this is for C++/ATL/COM geeks mainly... Another one is SilverLight based on WPF.... There is also XBAP... Etc. -- Shamil -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Doug Murphy Sent: Sunday, January 27, 2008 10:28 PM To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' Subject: Re: [AccessD] VB Express Compare to Access (was: Old Dog -NewTricks) I remember seeing an article or editorial in one of the incarnations of the Access Advisor / Access VB Advisor magazine by Peter Vogel who was developing in both the Access and Visual Studio environments that said that Access was about twice as fast to develop in as VB.Net for an equivalent application. I don't have the reference and my recollection was that it was more a qualitative observation on his part as having actual metrics. In my experimenting the biggest shortcoming in VB.Net is not being able to creat the great reports that Access does so well. You can purchase separate applications to do this but that is another $500 - $1000. I am experimenting with VS 2005 but have only build small Win forms apps to date, no data connections. For web work ASP.NET is the only way to go in the Windows world. Doug -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Dan Waters Sent: Sunday, January 27, 2008 6:35 AM To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' Subject: Re: [AccessD] VB Express Compare to Access (was: Old Dog - NewTricks) Susan, Do you know of a good VB Express vs. Access comparison? Pros & Cons? What does VB Express not do that you miss in Access? Thanks, Dan -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Susan Harkins Sent: Saturday, January 26, 2008 6:49 PM To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving Subject: Re: [AccessD] Old Dog - New Tricks >I think SQL Server or SQL 2005 Express edition (until 2008 comes out) >is the way to go: > http://www.microsoft.com/sql/downloads/trial-software.mspx > Even if you are using an Access front-end. =======Or VB Express -- don't need Access anymore at all. VB Express is incredibly easy to use -- it does almost everything you need with just a few clicks. Susan H. -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com