From tinanfields at torchlake.com Tue Jul 1 05:55:23 2008 From: tinanfields at torchlake.com (Tina Norris Fields) Date: Tue, 01 Jul 2008 06:55:23 -0400 Subject: [AccessD] Relative reference? In-Reply-To: <4869EF8F.6891.3D2755A0@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg> References: <4869EF8F.6891.3D2755A0@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg> Message-ID: <486A0D1B.8020802@torchlake.com> Stuart, Thank you very much. Seeing it written out, my reaction is "Well, of course! Now, why was I having so much difficulty thinking?" I truly appreciate your rather "surgical precision" of thought. Thank you for sharing your wisdom. Tina Stuart McLachlan wrote: > No, the default directory for an Access DB is not the directory continaing the database. > It's usually the users "My Documents", but this can be changed using Tools-Options. > > The location of the database (without a trailing "\") is returned by CurrentProject.Path. > so you would use something like > > strFilename = "TinaDonationTestLtr2.doc" > strFullFilename = CurrentProject.Path & "\" & strFilename > > > On 30 Jun 2008 at 7:50, Tina Norris Fields wrote: > > >> Hi All, >> >> Can I use relative reference to point to a file from within Access. In >> other words, if the database and the Word document are in the same >> directory (in this case "TinaVersions"), can I use >> ".\TinaDonationTestLtr2.doc" instead of the complete pathname >> "C:\Documents and Settings\Tina\My >> Documents\TP\TP_Clients\Habitat\TinaVersions\TinaDonationTestLtr2.doc" >> in my Sub? >> >> I would very much like to be able to use relative rather than absolute >> reference if that is "do-able." >> >> Thanks >> Tina >> -- >> AccessD mailing list >> AccessD at databaseadvisors.com >> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd >> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com >> > > > From jwelz at hotmail.com Tue Jul 1 09:08:35 2008 From: jwelz at hotmail.com (Jurgen Welz) Date: Tue, 1 Jul 2008 08:08:35 -0600 Subject: [AccessD] OT - Whatever became of ... Message-ID: Drew: If there were any off list emails, whomever they supported, they were private. Public exposure of private off list censure of a list member that was obviously not intended for public consumption is not in good taste. I also don't think it is fair to characterize John's last post as having 'all the swearing'. There may have been repeated words implying animal excrement but the spelling leaves interpretation to the beholder. Posts in the thread in question speak well enough for themselves without editorial interpretation. None of the private emails you refer to are subject to any interpretation than other than your characterization about them saying John was 'going overboard'. I found the tone and content of both John's comments in the thread and your most recent comment below objectionable, but that is only my opinion. If John has chosen to take a time out voluntarily, that is certainly his prerogative. If you have received private emails of support or commiseration, appreciate them for what they are and don't turn this into some kind of a popularity contest where you are the only contender. CiaoJ?rgen WelzEdmonton, Albertajwelz at hotmail.com> Date: Fri, 27 Jun 2008 20:29:12 -0500> From: DWUTKA at marlow.com> To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com> Subject: Re: [AccessD] OT - Whatever became of ...> > I don't know, after the post with all the swearing, I had several off> list emails about JC going overboard. He posted that he was going to> delete all my posts, and then didn't see anything else.> > Hope he didn't go away for ever, he's a good contributor here.> > Drew> > -----Original Message-----> Sent: Friday, June 27, 2008 12:31 PM> Subject: [AccessD] OT - Whatever became of ...> > Where's John Colby? I haven't noticed a post from him since the last> great debate. Anyone know what's going on?> > Charlotte Foust _________________________________________________________________ Find hidden words, unscramble celebrity names, or try the ultimate crossword puzzle with Live Search Games. Play now! http://g.msn.ca/ca55/212 From DWUTKA at Marlow.com Tue Jul 1 09:33:04 2008 From: DWUTKA at Marlow.com (Drew Wutka) Date: Tue, 1 Jul 2008 09:33:04 -0500 Subject: [AccessD] OT - Whatever became of ... In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Ummmm, ok. I didn't list names, just made a comment. Drew -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jurgen Welz Sent: Tuesday, July 01, 2008 9:09 AM To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving Subject: Re: [AccessD] OT - Whatever became of ... Drew: If there were any off list emails, whomever they supported, they were private. Public exposure of private off list censure of a list member that was obviously not intended for public consumption is not in good taste. I also don't think it is fair to characterize John's last post as having 'all the swearing'. There may have been repeated words implying animal excrement but the spelling leaves interpretation to the beholder. Posts in the thread in question speak well enough for themselves without editorial interpretation. None of the private emails you refer to are subject to any interpretation than other than your characterization about them saying John was 'going overboard'. I found the tone and content of both John's comments in the thread and your most recent comment below objectionable, but that is only my opinion. If John has chosen to take a time out voluntarily, that is certainly his prerogative. If you have received private emails of support or commiseration, appreciate them for what they are and don't turn this into some kind of a popularity contest where you are the only contender. CiaoJ?rgen WelzEdmonton, Albertajwelz at hotmail.com> Date: Fri, 27 Jun 2008 20:29:12 -0500> From: DWUTKA at marlow.com> To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com> Subject: Re: [AccessD] OT - Whatever became of ...> > I don't know, after the post with all the swearing, I had several off> list emails about JC going overboard. He posted that he was going to> delete all my posts, and then didn't see anything else.> > Hope he didn't go away for ever, he's a good contributor here.> > Drew> > -----Original Message-----> Sent: Friday, June 27, 2008 12:31 PM> Subject: [AccessD] OT - Whatever became of ...> > Where's John Colby? I haven't noticed a post from him since the last> great debate. Anyone know what's going on?> > Charlotte Foust _________________________________________________________________ Find hidden words, unscramble celebrity names, or try the ultimate crossword puzzle with Live Search Games. Play now! http://g.msn.ca/ca55/212 -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com The information contained in this transmission is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain II-VI Proprietary and/or II-VI Business Sensitive material. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender immediately and destroy the material in its entirety, whether electronic or hard copy. You are notified that any review, retransmission, copying, disclosure, dissemination, or other use of, or taking of any action in reliance upon this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient is prohibited. From ANACHE at SAFECO.com Tue Jul 1 11:08:57 2008 From: ANACHE at SAFECO.com (CHERMOSHNYUK, ANATOLIY) Date: Tue, 1 Jul 2008 09:08:57 -0700 Subject: [AccessD] Turn off error message In-Reply-To: <200807010432.m614WYZs019697@databaseadvisors.com> References: <200807010432.m614WYZs019697@databaseadvisors.com> Message-ID: <0A3E0E044D75DF438087D88236237FA21DEBCB@psmrdcex17.psm.pin.safeco.com> I am running union query that has some elements that are not currently in the database but might be added in the future. Since query cannot find them it is prompting several error messages. I tried to turn off warnings in Macro that runs these queries, but to no effect. Any ideas how to turn off these error messages? Thank you From cfoust at infostatsystems.com Tue Jul 1 11:58:02 2008 From: cfoust at infostatsystems.com (Charlotte Foust) Date: Tue, 1 Jul 2008 09:58:02 -0700 Subject: [AccessD] Turn off error message In-Reply-To: <0A3E0E044D75DF438087D88236237FA21DEBCB@psmrdcex17.psm.pin.safeco.com> References: <200807010432.m614WYZs019697@databaseadvisors.com> <0A3E0E044D75DF438087D88236237FA21DEBCB@psmrdcex17.psm.pin.safeco.com> Message-ID: The query can't run if you have missing pieces in it, whether or not you could turn off the error messages. Your Union SQL needs to be valid right now in the current datastructure, regardless. Charlotte Foust -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of CHERMOSHNYUK, ANATOLIY Sent: Tuesday, July 01, 2008 9:09 AM To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving Subject: [AccessD] Turn off error message I am running union query that has some elements that are not currently in the database but might be added in the future. Since query cannot find them it is prompting several error messages. I tried to turn off warnings in Macro that runs these queries, but to no effect. Any ideas how to turn off these error messages? Thank you -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From wdhindman at dejpolsystems.com Tue Jul 1 12:06:40 2008 From: wdhindman at dejpolsystems.com (William Hindman) Date: Tue, 1 Jul 2008 13:06:40 -0400 Subject: [AccessD] OT - Whatever became of ... References: Message-ID: ...excellent point Jurgen ...and while we're speaking of lost souls ...where did YOU run off to? :) ..I've added at least 30 minutes a week to my productive life by not getting lost in trying to figure out what your latest post was all about :) ...but its time I always enjoyed spending and learning ...good to see you back, eh. William "Sen. McCain will bring a lifetime of experience to the campaign... Sen. Obama will bring a speech that he gave." Hillary Clinton -------------------------------------------------- From: "Jurgen Welz" Sent: Tuesday, July 01, 2008 10:08 AM To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving" Subject: Re: [AccessD] OT - Whatever became of ... > > Drew: If there were any off list emails, whomever they supported, they > were private. Public exposure of private off list censure of a list > member that was obviously not intended for public consumption is not in > good taste. > > I also don't think it is fair to characterize John's last post as having > 'all the swearing'. There may have been repeated words implying animal > excrement but the spelling leaves interpretation to the beholder. Posts > in the thread in question speak well enough for themselves without > editorial interpretation. None of the private emails you refer to are > subject to any interpretation than other than your characterization about > them saying John was 'going overboard'. > > I found the tone and content of both John's comments in the thread and > your most recent comment below objectionable, but that is only my opinion. > If John has chosen to take a time out voluntarily, that is certainly his > prerogative. > > If you have received private emails of support or commiseration, > appreciate them for what they are and don't turn this into some kind of a > popularity contest where you are the only contender. > CiaoJ?rgen WelzEdmonton, Albertajwelz at hotmail.com> Date: Fri, 27 Jun 2008 > 20:29:12 -0500> From: DWUTKA at marlow.com> To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com> > Subject: Re: [AccessD] OT - Whatever became of ...> > I don't know, after > the post with all the swearing, I had several off> list emails about JC > going overboard. He posted that he was going to> delete all my posts, and > then didn't see anything else.> > Hope he didn't go away for ever, he's a > good contributor here.> > Drew> > -----Original Message-----> Sent: > Friday, June 27, 2008 12:31 PM> Subject: [AccessD] OT - Whatever became of > ...> > Where's John Colby? I haven't noticed a post from him since the > last> great debate. Anyone know what's going on?> > Charlotte Foust > _________________________________________________________________ > Find hidden words, unscramble celebrity names, or try the ultimate > crossword puzzle with Live Search Games. Play now! > http://g.msn.ca/ca55/212 > -- > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From john at winhaven.net Tue Jul 1 12:16:23 2008 From: john at winhaven.net (John Bartow) Date: Tue, 1 Jul 2008 12:16:23 -0500 Subject: [AccessD] OT - Whatever became of ... In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <200807011716.m61HGFkg011213@databaseadvisors.com> LOL! Ditto for me :o) John B. -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of William Hindman Sent: Tuesday, July 01, 2008 12:07 PM To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving Subject: Re: [AccessD] OT - Whatever became of ... ...excellent point Jurgen ...and while we're speaking of lost souls ...where did YOU run off to? :) ..I've added at least 30 minutes a week to my productive life by not getting lost in trying to figure out what your latest post was all about :) ...but its time I always enjoyed spending and learning ...good to see you back, eh. From Lambert.Heenan at AIG.com Tue Jul 1 13:28:29 2008 From: Lambert.Heenan at AIG.com (Heenan, Lambert) Date: Tue, 1 Jul 2008 14:28:29 -0400 Subject: [AccessD] OT Signatures? Message-ID: <34C8A2AB1EF3564CB0D64DB6AFFDD5C216C77EAC@XLIVMBX35bkup.aig.com> "Sen. McCain will bring a lifetime of experience to the campaign... Sen. Obama will bring a speech that he gave." Hillary Clinton Senators McCain, Obama and Clinton know as much about Access as I know about trying to run a government. Actually they probably know even less. So why do we have to hear about them every time the our libertarian (code for Republican who won't admit it) William Hindeman makes a posting to the list? Lambert From ssharkins at gmail.com Tue Jul 1 13:36:16 2008 From: ssharkins at gmail.com (Susan Harkins) Date: Tue, 1 Jul 2008 14:36:16 -0400 Subject: [AccessD] OT Signatures? References: <34C8A2AB1EF3564CB0D64DB6AFFDD5C216C77EAC@XLIVMBX35bkup.aig.com> Message-ID: <05e801c8dba9$5b2beb20$2f8601c7@SusanOne> It's his signature line Lambert. Lots of people have them. Susan H. > > > "Sen. McCain will bring a lifetime of experience to the campaign... Sen. > > Obama will bring a speech that he gave." Hillary Clinton > > > > Senators McCain, Obama and Clinton know as much about Access as I know > about > trying to run a government. Actually they probably know even less. So why > do > we have to hear about them every time the our libertarian (code for > Republican who won't admit it) William Hindeman makes a posting to the > list? From accessd at shaw.ca Tue Jul 1 13:52:44 2008 From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence) Date: Tue, 01 Jul 2008 11:52:44 -0700 Subject: [AccessD] OT Signatures? In-Reply-To: <34C8A2AB1EF3564CB0D64DB6AFFDD5C216C77EAC@XLIVMBX35bkup.aig.com> References: <34C8A2AB1EF3564CB0D64DB6AFFDD5C216C77EAC@XLIVMBX35bkup.aig.com> Message-ID: <60529AC1635443EE82C30D9688249A5E@creativesystemdesigns.com> Lambert: I agree that the quote is perfect and expected OT stuff.... only. Jim -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Heenan, Lambert Sent: Tuesday, July 01, 2008 11:28 AM To: 'Access-D Email (accessd at databaseadvisors.com)' Subject: [AccessD] OT Signatures? "Sen. McCain will bring a lifetime of experience to the campaign... Sen. Obama will bring a speech that he gave." Hillary Clinton Senators McCain, Obama and Clinton know as much about Access as I know about trying to run a government. Actually they probably know even less. So why do we have to hear about them every time the our libertarian (code for Republican who won't admit it) William Hindeman makes a posting to the list? Lambert -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From john at winhaven.net Tue Jul 1 13:45:01 2008 From: john at winhaven.net (John Bartow) Date: Tue, 1 Jul 2008 13:45:01 -0500 Subject: [AccessD] OT Signatures? In-Reply-To: <34C8A2AB1EF3564CB0D64DB6AFFDD5C216C77EAC@XLIVMBX35bkup.aig.com> Message-ID: <200807011844.m61IiqxM001281@databaseadvisors.com> PLEASE! Let's not get into this again. We decided a couple of years ago that we could not moderate signatures for various reasons. If your email program is not one of these, please refrain from posting political commentary to the technical lists. If it is, please try to edit it out if you can. We have to pay to store all of the emails in our archives for the web search capabilities and neither signatures nor flame wars make this less expensive. John R. Bartow WinHaven LLC PO Box 130 Winneconne, WI 54986 920-582-7574 john at winhaven.net From john at winhaven.net Tue Jul 1 14:03:48 2008 From: john at winhaven.net (John Bartow) Date: Tue, 1 Jul 2008 14:03:48 -0500 Subject: [AccessD] MODERATOR POST RE: OT Signatures? - end this thread In-Reply-To: <34C8A2AB1EF3564CB0D64DB6AFFDD5C216C77EAC@XLIVMBX35bkup.aig.com> Message-ID: <200807011903.m61J3dqM010622@databaseadvisors.com> Let's not get into this again. We decided a couple of years ago that we could not moderate signatures for various reasons. If your email program is not one of these, please refrain from posting political commentary to the technical lists. If it is, please try to edit it out if you can. We have to pay to store all of the emails in our archives for the web search capabilities and neither signatures nor flame wars make this less expensive. John Bartow, President Database Advisors, Inc. Email: mailto:president at databaseadvisors.com Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From Lambert.Heenan at AIG.com Tue Jul 1 14:17:27 2008 From: Lambert.Heenan at AIG.com (Heenan, Lambert) Date: Tue, 1 Jul 2008 15:17:27 -0400 Subject: [AccessD] OT Signatures? Message-ID: <34C8A2AB1EF3564CB0D64DB6AFFDD5C216C7834B@XLIVMBX35bkup.aig.com> And if I decide to put together a signature line that others would be offended by that's ok: because it's *my* signature line? Maybe a link to a malware site? -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Susan Harkins Sent: Tuesday, July 01, 2008 2:36 PM To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving Subject: Re: [AccessD] OT Signatures? It's his signature line Lambert. Lots of people have them. Susan H. From jwelz at hotmail.com Tue Jul 1 14:30:14 2008 From: jwelz at hotmail.com (Jurgen Welz) Date: Tue, 1 Jul 2008 13:30:14 -0600 Subject: [AccessD] OT - Whatever became of ... In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: William: I've never really left, not having ever unsubscribed since the days of AccessD, but find less time to play in the list as my program development duties have been replaced by others more related to my legal training. I'm still involved in some Access development as the only employee who knows how to create a query and there are always changes in the business that require accomodation. I am still with the same company though I took a couple years off to create a lawyer's database with document management system. I'm now up to a maximum of 55 concurrent users on a 60 megabyte BE and we will likely be pushing 100 users in a few years so the time will definitely come for a move to a different database engine. The IT people who have been my nemesis for the last 10 years will probably deal with any migration and I will likely be fully locked out at that point. Since I built the system to handle hardware and bandwidth constraints, it is still holding up well even though all the main entry froms are bound. I am currently the Health and Safety manager of the company with offices in Winnipeg, Saskatoon, Regina, Edmonton, Calgary, Kelowna, Vancouver and Arlington WA and earn better than triple and maybe quadruple what I was making the first couple years of my Access adventures. The position requires me to be in all locations several times a year so there is a fair bit of travel. Nonetheless, I am able to spend every weekend at home and a few extra weeks at my home town office. List posts come to my hotmail account which I check two or three times a week and there are times when I delete most of the posts, but there are frequently topics that interest me. It's fun to see some of the old names and I still read nearly every post by Gustav. Just this past week I posted a solution to an inquiry about counting files of a type in a folder. The actual solution was terse without error handling and no mention of checking for the path like I probably would have mentioned in the past. I'm kicking back today since it's Canada Day, eh. Enjoy the 4th bubba. Ciao J?rgen Welz Edmonton, Alberta jwelz at hotmail.com > From: wdhindman at dejpolsystems.com > To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com > Date: Tue, 1 Jul 2008 13:06:40 -0400 > Subject: Re: [AccessD] OT - Whatever became of ... > > ...excellent point Jurgen ...and while we're speaking of lost souls ...where > did YOU run off to? :) > > ..I've added at least 30 minutes a week to my productive life by not getting > lost in trying to figure out what your latest post was all about :) > > ...but its time I always enjoyed spending and learning ...good to see you > back, eh. > > William > "Sen. McCain will bring a lifetime of experience to the campaign... Sen. > Obama will bring a speech that he gave." Hillary Clinton > > -------------------------------------------------- > From: "Jurgen Welz" > Sent: Tuesday, July 01, 2008 10:08 AM > To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving" > > Subject: Re: [AccessD] OT - Whatever became of ... > >> >> Drew: If there were any off list emails, whomever they supported, they >> were private. Public exposure of private off list censure of a list >> member that was obviously not intended for public consumption is not in >> good taste. >> >> I also don't think it is fair to characterize John's last post as having >> 'all the swearing'. There may have been repeated words implying animal >> excrement but the spelling leaves interpretation to the beholder. Posts >> in the thread in question speak well enough for themselves without >> editorial interpretation. None of the private emails you refer to are >> subject to any interpretation than other than your characterization about >> them saying John was 'going overboard'. >> >> I found the tone and content of both John's comments in the thread and >> your most recent comment below objectionable, but that is only my opinion. >> If John has chosen to take a time out voluntarily, that is certainly his >> prerogative. >> >> If you have received private emails of support or commiseration, >> appreciate them for what they are and don't turn this into some kind of a >> popularity contest where you are the only contender. >> CiaoJ?rgen WelzEdmonton, Albertajwelz at hotmail.com> Date: Fri, 27 Jun 2008 >> 20:29:12 -0500> From: DWUTKA at marlow.com> To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com> _________________________________________________________________ From fuller.artful at gmail.com Tue Jul 1 14:41:01 2008 From: fuller.artful at gmail.com (Arthur Fuller) Date: Tue, 1 Jul 2008 16:41:01 -0300 Subject: [AccessD] OT - Whatever became of ... In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <29f585dd0807011241i62106e26qa49ac4266c94879b@mail.gmail.com> Happy Canada Day, Jurgen. (This just in from Bermuda.) Arthur From fuller.artful at gmail.com Tue Jul 1 14:49:36 2008 From: fuller.artful at gmail.com (Arthur Fuller) Date: Tue, 1 Jul 2008 16:49:36 -0300 Subject: [AccessD] OT Signatures? In-Reply-To: <34C8A2AB1EF3564CB0D64DB6AFFDD5C216C7834B@XLIVMBX35bkup.aig.com> References: <34C8A2AB1EF3564CB0D64DB6AFFDD5C216C7834B@XLIVMBX35bkup.aig.com> Message-ID: <29f585dd0807011249k6b4a43b2pe9a704f0a10ea898@mail.gmail.com> I think it would be correct and efficient if we banned signature lines from the list, to wit, anything in addition to one's name should be deemed out of bounds. Yes, occasionally they are cute and or witty but they consume space and after thousands of messages that space adds up. To keep the costs of this non-profit organization to a minimum we should collectively agree that signature lines in addition to one's name ought to be forbidden. A. On Tue, Jul 1, 2008 at 4:17 PM, Heenan, Lambert wrote: > And if I decide to put together a signature line that others would be > offended by that's ok: because it's *my* signature line? Maybe a link to a > malware site? > From garykjos at gmail.com Tue Jul 1 14:53:34 2008 From: garykjos at gmail.com (Gary Kjos) Date: Tue, 1 Jul 2008 14:53:34 -0500 Subject: [AccessD] OT Signatures? In-Reply-To: <34C8A2AB1EF3564CB0D64DB6AFFDD5C216C7834B@XLIVMBX35bkup.aig.com> References: <34C8A2AB1EF3564CB0D64DB6AFFDD5C216C7834B@XLIVMBX35bkup.aig.com> Message-ID: Hi Lambert, That is the decision of the board. I personally don't pay attention to signatures and I suggest you do the same if they bother you.. We are pretty much between a rick and a hard place on this as the only way we could do anything about them is to go full moderated and approve each and every message before it's posted to the list and we do not have the manpower resources to do this. So we ask list members not use offensive signatures and for everyone to be tolerant of what people use as signatures. We are a world wide list and we do not want to cause anyone to leave the list do to this but bottom line is there isn't muc we can do to control it. As we only send TEXT in our messages we hope to limit any bad stuff that could be present in a message, but your example is a valid one. . Gary Kjos MODERATOR AccessD On 7/1/08, Heenan, Lambert wrote: > And if I decide to put together a signature line that others would be > offended by that's ok: because it's *my* signature line? Maybe a link to a > malware site? > > -----Original Message----- > From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Susan Harkins > Sent: Tuesday, July 01, 2008 2:36 PM > To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving > Subject: Re: [AccessD] OT Signatures? > > It's his signature line Lambert. Lots of people have them. > > Susan H. > > -- > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > -- Gary Kjos garykjos at gmail.com From garykjos at gmail.com Tue Jul 1 15:08:02 2008 From: garykjos at gmail.com (Gary Kjos) Date: Tue, 1 Jul 2008 15:08:02 -0500 Subject: [AccessD] OT Signatures? In-Reply-To: <29f585dd0807011249k6b4a43b2pe9a704f0a10ea898@mail.gmail.com> References: <34C8A2AB1EF3564CB0D64DB6AFFDD5C216C7834B@XLIVMBX35bkup.aig.com> <29f585dd0807011249k6b4a43b2pe9a704f0a10ea898@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Hi Arthur, This might very well be a good idea but as I stated in a previous reply we have little power to enforce it and not enough manpower in the Moderator group. Want to volunteer? Talk to John Bartow at john at winhaven.net I just don't scroll the message box down below someones name and I never know if they do or don't have a signature message. Gary Kjos MODERATOR AccessD On 7/1/08, Arthur Fuller wrote: > I think it would be correct and efficient if we banned signature lines from > the list, to wit, anything in addition to one's name should be deemed out of > bounds. Yes, occasionally they are cute and or witty but they consume space > and after thousands of messages that space adds up. To keep the costs of > this non-profit organization to a minimum we should collectively agree that > signature lines in addition to one's name ought to be forbidden. > > A. > > On Tue, Jul 1, 2008 at 4:17 PM, Heenan, Lambert > wrote: > > > And if I decide to put together a signature line that others would be > > offended by that's ok: because it's *my* signature line? Maybe a link to a > > malware site? > -- Gary Kjos garykjos at gmail.com From fhtapia at gmail.com Tue Jul 1 16:24:39 2008 From: fhtapia at gmail.com (Francisco Tapia) Date: Tue, 1 Jul 2008 14:24:39 -0700 Subject: [AccessD] OT Signatures? In-Reply-To: References: <34C8A2AB1EF3564CB0D64DB6AFFDD5C216C7834B@XLIVMBX35bkup.aig.com> <29f585dd0807011249k6b4a43b2pe9a704f0a10ea898@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: While I don't generally peruse the AccessD list much these days, but I am on the SQL list, I don't really have an issue with signatures. If it is an issue then perhaps clipping messages should become standard practice. One method would be to have a much more active role in the moderation of messages. By that I mean new subscribers would need to be forced through the queue from the moderators, once their messages were approved by mods, then they could post on the list, such lists still exist with very active mods ie, MyItToolbox where they won't even let me cross post :D. Once they approve you and you follow the rules, they let you post almost immediately. that same theory can be applied here, but will require active mods, and consistent applications of the rules. -- Francisco On Tue, Jul 1, 2008 at 1:08 PM, Gary Kjos wrote: > Hi Arthur, > > This might very well be a good idea but as I stated in a previous > reply we have little power to enforce it and not enough manpower in > the Moderator group. Want to volunteer? Talk to John Bartow at > john at winhaven.net > > I just don't scroll the message box down below someones name and I > never know if they do or don't have a signature message. > > Gary Kjos > MODERATOR AccessD > > > On 7/1/08, Arthur Fuller wrote: > > I think it would be correct and efficient if we banned signature lines > from > > the list, to wit, anything in addition to one's name should be deemed out > of > > bounds. Yes, occasionally they are cute and or witty but they consume > space > > and after thousands of messages that space adds up. To keep the costs of > > this non-profit organization to a minimum we should collectively agree > that > > signature lines in addition to one's name ought to be forbidden. > > > > A. > > > > On Tue, Jul 1, 2008 at 4:17 PM, Heenan, Lambert > > wrote: > > > > > And if I decide to put together a signature line that others would be > > > offended by that's ok: because it's *my* signature line? Maybe a link > to a > > > malware site? > > > > > -- > Gary Kjos > garykjos at gmail.com > -- > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > -- -Francisco http://sqlthis.blogspot.com | Tsql and More... From DWUTKA at Marlow.com Tue Jul 1 16:43:03 2008 From: DWUTKA at Marlow.com (Drew Wutka) Date: Tue, 1 Jul 2008 16:43:03 -0500 Subject: [AccessD] OT Signatures? In-Reply-To: <34C8A2AB1EF3564CB0D64DB6AFFDD5C216C77EAC@XLIVMBX35bkup.aig.com> Message-ID: It's easier to just ignore the rest once you see the person's name, then to try and implement a signature line policy. Obviously profanity or extremely offensive material would be dealt with. Drew -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Heenan, Lambert Sent: Tuesday, July 01, 2008 1:28 PM To: 'Access-D Email (accessd at databaseadvisors.com)' Subject: [AccessD] OT Signatures? "Sen. McCain will bring a lifetime of experience to the campaign... Sen. Obama will bring a speech that he gave." Hillary Clinton Senators McCain, Obama and Clinton know as much about Access as I know about trying to run a government. Actually they probably know even less. So why do we have to hear about them every time the our libertarian (code for Republican who won't admit it) William Hindeman makes a posting to the list? Lambert -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com The information contained in this transmission is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain II-VI Proprietary and/or II-VI Business Sensitive material. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender immediately and destroy the material in its entirety, whether electronic or hard copy. You are notified that any review, retransmission, copying, disclosure, dissemination, or other use of, or taking of any action in reliance upon this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient is prohibited. From DWUTKA at Marlow.com Tue Jul 1 16:49:35 2008 From: DWUTKA at Marlow.com (Drew Wutka) Date: Tue, 1 Jul 2008 16:49:35 -0500 Subject: [AccessD] OT Signatures? In-Reply-To: <29f585dd0807011249k6b4a43b2pe9a704f0a10ea898@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: It's been voted on in the past. The problem is that not everyone has an email program that makes multiple sigs easy (one for personal, one for business, etc). Since some people choose to have political statements in the tag lines for all their email, that's really their choice. As long as it's not adult in nature, or specifically attacking a list member, there shouldn't really be a problem. Personally, I am offended at the 'legal notices' in emails...it's a waste of electrons, and the mail server I use tags it in (as a company policy).....so I'd have to ban myself! Drew -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Arthur Fuller Sent: Tuesday, July 01, 2008 2:50 PM To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving Subject: Re: [AccessD] OT Signatures? I think it would be correct and efficient if we banned signature lines from the list, to wit, anything in addition to one's name should be deemed out of bounds. Yes, occasionally they are cute and or witty but they consume space and after thousands of messages that space adds up. To keep the costs of this non-profit organization to a minimum we should collectively agree that signature lines in addition to one's name ought to be forbidden. A. On Tue, Jul 1, 2008 at 4:17 PM, Heenan, Lambert wrote: > And if I decide to put together a signature line that others would be > offended by that's ok: because it's *my* signature line? Maybe a link to a > malware site? > -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com The information contained in this transmission is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain II-VI Proprietary and/or II-VI Business Sensitive material. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender immediately and destroy the material in its entirety, whether electronic or hard copy. You are notified that any review, retransmission, copying, disclosure, dissemination, or other use of, or taking of any action in reliance upon this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient is prohibited. From Darryl.Collins at coles.com.au Tue Jul 1 18:49:40 2008 From: Darryl.Collins at coles.com.au (Darryl Collins) Date: Wed, 2 Jul 2008 09:49:40 +1000 Subject: [AccessD] OT Signatures? In-Reply-To: <29f585dd0807011249k6b4a43b2pe9a704f0a10ea898@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <57E6E6CA42105A48B977303A2CDC2720076BF12C99@WPEXCH22.retail.ad.cmltd.net.au> Problem is a lot of sigs are automatically added by the company you work for. Some place I know bolt on huge legal disclaimer sigs on every outgoing email. a right PITA for sure, but there is nothing the users can do about it. -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Arthur Fuller Sent: Wednesday, 2 July 2008 5:50 AM To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving Subject: Re: [AccessD] OT Signatures? I think it would be correct and efficient if we banned signature lines from the list, to wit, anything in addition to one's name should be deemed out of bounds. Yes, occasionally they are cute and or witty but they consume space and after thousands of messages that space adds up. To keep the costs of this non-profit organization to a minimum we should collectively agree that signature lines in addition to one's name ought to be forbidden. A. On Tue, Jul 1, 2008 at 4:17 PM, Heenan, Lambert wrote: > And if I decide to put together a signature line that others would be > offended by that's ok: because it's *my* signature line? Maybe a link to a > malware site? > -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com This email and any attachments may contain privileged and confidential information and are intended for the named addressee only. If you have received this e-mail in error, please notify the sender and delete this e-mail immediately. Any confidentiality, privilege or copyright is not waived or lost because this e-mail has been sent to you in error. It is your responsibility to check this e-mail and any attachments for viruses. No warranty is made that this material is free from computer virus or any other defect or error. Any loss/damage incurred by using this material is not the sender's responsibility. The sender's entire liability will be limited to resupplying the material. From wdhindman at dejpolsystems.com Tue Jul 1 18:51:39 2008 From: wdhindman at dejpolsystems.com (William Hindman) Date: Tue, 1 Jul 2008 19:51:39 -0400 Subject: [AccessD] MODERATOR POST RE: OT Signatures? - end this thread References: <200807011903.m61J3dqM010622@databaseadvisors.com> Message-ID: <1629A2AE3DD4411F8973E8096DCE1B2A@jislaptopdev> ...my apologies to the list JB ...unlike others I don't claim perfection and the sig does occasionally get through ...if that happens and any rational member here is offended, a short e-mail off list will get a respectful apology. ...shame it is that in deference to your request, I can't reply to Heenan in an appropriate manner here. William -------------------------------------------------- From: "John Bartow" Sent: Tuesday, July 01, 2008 3:03 PM To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'" Subject: [AccessD] MODERATOR POST RE: OT Signatures? - end this thread > Let's not get into this again. We decided a couple of years ago that we > could not moderate signatures for various reasons. > > If your email program is not one of these, please refrain from posting > political commentary to the technical lists. If it is, please try to edit > it > out if you can. We have to pay to store all of the emails in our archives > for the web search capabilities and neither signatures nor flame wars make > this less expensive. > > John Bartow, President > Database Advisors, Inc. > Email: mailto:president at databaseadvisors.com > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > > -- > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From fuller.artful at gmail.com Wed Jul 2 02:39:17 2008 From: fuller.artful at gmail.com (Arthur Fuller) Date: Wed, 2 Jul 2008 04:39:17 -0300 Subject: [AccessD] OT Signatures? In-Reply-To: <57E6E6CA42105A48B977303A2CDC2720076BF12C99@WPEXCH22.retail.ad.cmltd.net.au> References: <29f585dd0807011249k6b4a43b2pe9a704f0a10ea898@mail.gmail.com> <57E6E6CA42105A48B977303A2CDC2720076BF12C99@WPEXCH22.retail.ad.cmltd.net.au> Message-ID: <29f585dd0807020039m6f7bdcc8ga4d7e852e374a24b@mail.gmail.com> There is nothing to be done about corporate bolt-ons, to be sure. So to that extent, I retreat from my previous stance. But there is a difference between this shite than the voluntary additions of some signature such as GoBama GoBama OhBama Obama. I would love to kill all such signature text but I have no idea how to do it. A. From phpons at gmail.com Wed Jul 2 03:52:43 2008 From: phpons at gmail.com (philippe pons) Date: Wed, 2 Jul 2008 10:52:43 +0200 Subject: [AccessD] Office Link in a customed Menu Bar Message-ID: <57144ced0807020152y6e53edv93317a3acf2cc78e@mail.gmail.com> Hi all, I need your help! I have an A2003 application that is being used under A2007. This application exposes a customed menu bar, with a command button that triggers an Office link to Excel or Word. It allows the user to export reports to XL or Word. What happen under A2007 is that the custom menu bar is there, but not the Office Link button. However, the following VBA command: ?Application.CommandBars("myCustomedMenuBar").Controls(9).caption returns &Liaisons Office (i.e Office Link), showing that the control is still there within the command bar. Both properties Enable and Visible of this control are true. But the control will not display!! Do you know how I could give a new birth to this control? Or is it possible to recreate such a command by code? What I could you do is create a "normal" button, and give its onAction property the name of a function that will do the Office Link. But what is the VBA command that could do that? Thank's in advance for any help, Philippe From scapistrant at symphonyinfo.com Wed Jul 2 08:26:24 2008 From: scapistrant at symphonyinfo.com (steve) Date: Wed, 2 Jul 2008 08:26:24 -0500 Subject: [AccessD] Connection string to web mdb In-Reply-To: References: <003c01c8b9c7$3f6e8fe0$63dea8c0@dudley1> Message-ID: <744D8673EF7749848E8FE50045159D7C@symphony.symphonyinfo.com> Hello, Does anyone have any experience in making a live connection from local MDB to a web-server MDB? I've looked at all the connection string examples in AccessD archives, and at http://www.connectionstrings.com, and similar websites. Most seem focused on connecting to an MDB on the LAN. ----------- I have successfully connected using a "local mdb to a web-based SQL Server" setup: Step 1: Run a pass-through query to open/refresh the connection. The query's connection string is: ODBC;Description=DescripOfMyAccessDatabaseOnWebServer;DRIVER=SQL Server;SERVER=70.90.79.73;UID=MyLoginName;PWD=MyPassword;DATABASE=NameOfMyDa tabaseInSQLServerOnWebServer Step 2: Each table link has a connection string of: ODBC;Description=DescripOfMyAccessDbOnRemoteWebServer;DRIVER=SQL Server;SERVER=70.90.79.73;UID=MyLoginName;APP=MicrosoftR Access;WSID=NameOfMyLocalComputer;DATABASE= NameOfMyDatabaseInSQLServerOnWebServer;TABLE=MyTableName ----- The only code I have found for a "local mdb to web-based mdb" setup is: "Provider=MS Remote; Remote Server=http://Your-Remote-Server-IP; Remote Provider=Microsoft.Jet.OLEDB.4.0; Data Source=c:\App1\Your_Database_Name.mdb" But I can't make it work. I also read that this approach is no longer supported by Microsoft, but is supposed to still work, at least for now. Does it require creating a DSN? Where am I going wrong? -------- Any tips? Thank you! Steve Capistrant Email: s.t.capistrant at gmail.com From Gustav at cactus.dk Wed Jul 2 08:53:02 2008 From: Gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock) Date: Wed, 02 Jul 2008 15:53:02 +0200 Subject: [AccessD] Connection string to web mdb Message-ID: Hi Steve You can't, that's why you can't find anything. You need a drive letter or a UNC path - or you must download/upload the file. /gustav >>> scapistrant at symphonyinfo.com 02-07-2008 15:26 >>> Hello, Does anyone have any experience in making a live connection from local MDB to a web-server MDB? I've looked at all the connection string examples in AccessD archives, and at http://www.connectionstrings.com, and similar websites. Most seem focused on connecting to an MDB on the LAN. ----------- I have successfully connected using a "local mdb to a web-based SQL Server" setup: Step 1: Run a pass-through query to open/refresh the connection. The query's connection string is: ODBC;Description=DescripOfMyAccessDatabaseOnWebServer;DRIVER=SQL Server;SERVER=70.90.79.73;UID=MyLoginName;PWD=MyPassword;DATABASE=NameOfMyDa tabaseInSQLServerOnWebServer Step 2: Each table link has a connection string of: ODBC;Description=DescripOfMyAccessDbOnRemoteWebServer;DRIVER=SQL Server;SERVER=70.90.79.73;UID=MyLoginName;APP=MicrosoftR Access;WSID=NameOfMyLocalComputer;DATABASE= NameOfMyDatabaseInSQLServerOnWebServer;TABLE=MyTableName ----- The only code I have found for a "local mdb to web-based mdb" setup is: "Provider=MS Remote; Remote Server=http://Your-Remote-Server-IP; Remote Provider=Microsoft.Jet.OLEDB.4.0; Data Source=c:\App1\Your_Database_Name.mdb" But I can't make it work. I also read that this approach is no longer supported by Microsoft, but is supposed to still work, at least for now. Does it require creating a DSN? Where am I going wrong? -------- Any tips? Thank you! Steve Capistrant Email: s.t.capistrant at gmail.com From rockysmolin at bchacc.com Wed Jul 2 09:00:42 2008 From: rockysmolin at bchacc.com (rockysmolin at bchacc.com) Date: Wed, 2 Jul 2008 10:00:42 -0400 Subject: [AccessD] Office Link in a customed Menu Bar Message-ID: <380-2200873214042590@M2W026.mail2web.com> Phillippe: No solution but I have noticed in a fairly copmlex app for one of my clients that was developed in 2003, that there are things which don't behave the same in 2007 (mdb not mde). So I wonder what would happen if you created a new db in 2007 and imported all the objects from the 2003 db? If that's a practical experiment. Rocky Original Message: ----------------- From: philippe pons phpons at gmail.com Date: Wed, 2 Jul 2008 10:52:43 +0200 To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: [AccessD] Office Link in a customed Menu Bar Hi all, I need your help! I have an A2003 application that is being used under A2007. This application exposes a customed menu bar, with a command button that triggers an Office link to Excel or Word. It allows the user to export reports to XL or Word. What happen under A2007 is that the custom menu bar is there, but not the Office Link button. However, the following VBA command: ?Application.CommandBars("myCustomedMenuBar").Controls(9).caption returns &Liaisons Office (i.e Office Link), showing that the control is still there within the command bar. Both properties Enable and Visible of this control are true. But the control will not display!! Do you know how I could give a new birth to this control? Or is it possible to recreate such a command by code? What I could you do is create a "normal" button, and give its onAction property the name of a function that will do the Office Link. But what is the VBA command that could do that? Thank's in advance for any help, Philippe -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com -------------------------------------------------------------------- myhosting.com - Premium Microsoft? Windows? and Linux web and application hosting - http://link.myhosting.com/myhosting From scapistrant at symphonyinfo.com Wed Jul 2 09:14:03 2008 From: scapistrant at symphonyinfo.com (steve) Date: Wed, 2 Jul 2008 09:14:03 -0500 Subject: [AccessD] Connection string to web mdb In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <64E8EB457A3145219DBE4577B5AAE8F6@symphony.symphonyinfo.com> Oh...Well, that explains it clearly enough. Thank you! I can deal with the drive mapping method, which works fine for MY machine, but in my ideal world I want this tool to be distributable, which means I won't know the user's current mapping assignments. I can write code that establishes a drive mapping (in this case, to the website) on the fly to a specific letter, but I'm not sure how the code can assess which drive letters are available. I'll do some research, but if anyone has ready-to-eat advice, I would appreciate it. Thanks again, Gustav. Steve Capistrant -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gustav Brock Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2008 8:53 AM To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: Re: [AccessD] Connection string to web mdb Hi Steve You can't, that's why you can't find anything. You need a drive letter or a UNC path - or you must download/upload the file. /gustav >>> scapistrant at symphonyinfo.com 02-07-2008 15:26 >>> Hello, Does anyone have any experience in making a live connection from local MDB to a web-server MDB? I've looked at all the connection string examples in AccessD archives, and at http://www.connectionstrings.com, and similar websites. Most seem focused on connecting to an MDB on the LAN. ----------- I have successfully connected using a "local mdb to a web-based SQL Server" setup: Step 1: Run a pass-through query to open/refresh the connection. The query's connection string is: ODBC;Description=DescripOfMyAccessDatabaseOnWebServer;DRIVER=SQL Server;SERVER=70.90.79.73;UID=MyLoginName;PWD=MyPassword;DATABASE=NameOfMyDa tabaseInSQLServerOnWebServer Step 2: Each table link has a connection string of: ODBC;Description=DescripOfMyAccessDbOnRemoteWebServer;DRIVER=SQL Server;SERVER=70.90.79.73;UID=MyLoginName;APP=MicrosoftR Access;WSID=NameOfMyLocalComputer;DATABASE= NameOfMyDatabaseInSQLServerOnWebServer;TABLE=MyTableName ----- The only code I have found for a "local mdb to web-based mdb" setup is: "Provider=MS Remote; Remote Server=http://Your-Remote-Server-IP; Remote Provider=Microsoft.Jet.OLEDB.4.0; Data Source=c:\App1\Your_Database_Name.mdb" But I can't make it work. I also read that this approach is no longer supported by Microsoft, but is supposed to still work, at least for now. Does it require creating a DSN? Where am I going wrong? -------- Any tips? Thank you! Steve Capistrant Email: s.t.capistrant at gmail.com -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From Gustav at cactus.dk Wed Jul 2 09:29:01 2008 From: Gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock) Date: Wed, 02 Jul 2008 16:29:01 +0200 Subject: [AccessD] Connection string to web mdb Message-ID: Hi Steve This is not just like that. You could create a VPN connection but in most practical scenarios not on the fly. Firewalls need manual adjustment. And even if you could, connection to an mdb via the internet is not recommended, indeed not for writing. It may work but it will break sooner or later and you'll have a corrupted backend. /gustav >>> scapistrant at symphonyinfo.com 02-07-2008 16:14 >>> Oh...Well, that explains it clearly enough. Thank you! I can deal with the drive mapping method, which works fine for MY machine, but in my ideal world I want this tool to be distributable, which means I won't know the user's current mapping assignments. I can write code that establishes a drive mapping (in this case, to the website) on the fly to a specific letter, but I'm not sure how the code can assess which drive letters are available. I'll do some research, but if anyone has ready-to-eat advice, I would appreciate it. Thanks again, Gustav. Steve Capistrant -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gustav Brock Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2008 8:53 AM To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: Re: [AccessD] Connection string to web mdb Hi Steve You can't, that's why you can't find anything. You need a drive letter or a UNC path - or you must download/upload the file. /gustav >>> scapistrant at symphonyinfo.com 02-07-2008 15:26 >>> Hello, Does anyone have any experience in making a live connection from local MDB to a web-server MDB? I've looked at all the connection string examples in AccessD archives, and at http://www.connectionstrings.com, and similar websites. Most seem focused on connecting to an MDB on the LAN. ----------- I have successfully connected using a "local mdb to a web-based SQL Server" setup: Step 1: Run a pass-through query to open/refresh the connection. The query's connection string is: ODBC;Description=DescripOfMyAccessDatabaseOnWebServer;DRIVER=SQL Server;SERVER=70.90.79.73;UID=MyLoginName;PWD=MyPassword;DATABASE=NameOfMyDa tabaseInSQLServerOnWebServer Step 2: Each table link has a connection string of: ODBC;Description=DescripOfMyAccessDbOnRemoteWebServer;DRIVER=SQL Server;SERVER=70.90.79.73;UID=MyLoginName;APP=MicrosoftR Access;WSID=NameOfMyLocalComputer;DATABASE= NameOfMyDatabaseInSQLServerOnWebServer;TABLE=MyTableName ----- The only code I have found for a "local mdb to web-based mdb" setup is: "Provider=MS Remote; Remote Server=http://Your-Remote-Server-IP; Remote Provider=Microsoft.Jet.OLEDB.4.0; Data Source=c:\App1\Your_Database_Name.mdb" But I can't make it work. I also read that this approach is no longer supported by Microsoft, but is supposed to still work, at least for now. Does it require creating a DSN? Where am I going wrong? -------- Any tips? Thank you! Steve Capistrant Email: s.t.capistrant at gmail.com From fuller.artful at gmail.com Wed Jul 2 09:37:36 2008 From: fuller.artful at gmail.com (Arthur Fuller) Date: Wed, 2 Jul 2008 11:37:36 -0300 Subject: [AccessD] Office Link in a customed Menu Bar In-Reply-To: <380-2200873214042590@M2W026.mail2web.com> References: <380-2200873214042590@M2W026.mail2web.com> Message-ID: <29f585dd0807020737k4e2485a1xdfc0fdffe77e7a2b@mail.gmail.com> In a recent app I had a custom toolbar in A2k3 that "disappeared" when I ran it in A2K7. But then I managed to find where it was hiding. Thanks to the Ribbon technology, it was hiding under "Add Ins". I at least know where to find it now. This may or may not be applicable to your situation. Arthur From iggy at nanaimo.ark.com Wed Jul 2 06:37:11 2008 From: iggy at nanaimo.ark.com (Tony Septav) Date: Wed, 02 Jul 2008 04:37:11 -0700 Subject: [AccessD] MDB Refresh interval Message-ID: <486B6867.5090704@nanaimo.ark.com> Hey All I have been doing some testing on a program, deleting a group of records when muiltiple users are online working in the same bound form. I was getting at times error messages, on one machine when I deleted a group of records on another machine. In fact the one machine would lose the record source at times. Now a question for the network experts, I dropped the refresh rate from 60 down to 20 seconds, and the problem seems to have gone away. Is this coincidence or would doing this really eleviate the problem. From cfoust at infostatsystems.com Wed Jul 2 10:08:49 2008 From: cfoust at infostatsystems.com (Charlotte Foust) Date: Wed, 2 Jul 2008 08:08:49 -0700 Subject: [AccessD] MDB Refresh interval In-Reply-To: <486B6867.5090704@nanaimo.ark.com> References: <486B6867.5090704@nanaimo.ark.com> Message-ID: I don't think I understand what you mean by "on another machine"? Are you using remote access to a machine or are you deleting the records from the form in an instance running on your desktop? Charlotte Foust -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Tony Septav Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2008 4:37 AM To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving Subject: [AccessD] MDB Refresh interval Hey All I have been doing some testing on a program, deleting a group of records when muiltiple users are online working in the same bound form. I was getting at times error messages, on one machine when I deleted a group of records on another machine. In fact the one machine would lose the record source at times. Now a question for the network experts, I dropped the refresh rate from 60 down to 20 seconds, and the problem seems to have gone away. Is this coincidence or would doing this really eleviate the problem. -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From iggy at nanaimo.ark.com Wed Jul 2 07:34:03 2008 From: iggy at nanaimo.ark.com (Tony Septav) Date: Wed, 02 Jul 2008 05:34:03 -0700 Subject: [AccessD] MDB Refresh interval In-Reply-To: References: <486B6867.5090704@nanaimo.ark.com> Message-ID: <486B75BB.50707@nanaimo.ark.com> Hey Charlotte I have a little network setup in my office, 3 machines linked to a server. I have put the data on the server. Then on two of the machines, I start up the program and open the same data entry continuous form. On one machine the form is an edit/update form, on the other it is a view only form. The idea being that when a record is deleted or changed I set a flag, the OnTimer event for the view machine checks for this flag, if it finds it, it refreshes/requeries the view form. I was running a .1% scenario, "What if one user was viewing the data while another user deleted a bunch of records one right after the other real quickly", what would happen to the display on the view machine. Somtimes, not always I could trip up the program and cause error messages to be displayed. By reducing the refresh interval this problem seems to have gone away. I was just wondering if this was truly a solution to the problem. Charlotte Foust wrote: >I don't think I understand what you mean by "on another machine"? Are >you using remote access to a machine or are you deleting the records >from the form in an instance running on your desktop? > >Charlotte Foust > >-----Original Message----- >From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com >[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Tony Septav >Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2008 4:37 AM >To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving >Subject: [AccessD] MDB Refresh interval > >Hey All >I have been doing some testing on a program, deleting a group of records >when muiltiple users are online working in the same bound form. >I was getting at times error messages, on one machine when I deleted a >group of records on another machine. In fact the one machine would >lose the record source at times. >Now a question for the network experts, I dropped the refresh rate from >60 down to 20 seconds, and the problem seems to have gone away. Is this >coincidence or would doing this really eleviate the problem. >-- >AccessD mailing list >AccessD at databaseadvisors.com >http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd >Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > > From cfoust at infostatsystems.com Wed Jul 2 11:36:38 2008 From: cfoust at infostatsystems.com (Charlotte Foust) Date: Wed, 2 Jul 2008 09:36:38 -0700 Subject: [AccessD] MDB Refresh interval In-Reply-To: <486B75BB.50707@nanaimo.ark.com> References: <486B6867.5090704@nanaimo.ark.com> <486B75BB.50707@nanaimo.ark.com> Message-ID: I see. Yes, the refresh interval should make all the difference if you're going to use bound forms that way. Charlotte Foust -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Tony Septav Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2008 5:34 AM To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving Subject: Re: [AccessD] MDB Refresh interval Hey Charlotte I have a little network setup in my office, 3 machines linked to a server. I have put the data on the server. Then on two of the machines, I start up the program and open the same data entry continuous form. On one machine the form is an edit/update form, on the other it is a view only form. The idea being that when a record is deleted or changed I set a flag, the OnTimer event for the view machine checks for this flag, if it finds it, it refreshes/requeries the view form. I was running a .1% scenario, "What if one user was viewing the data while another user deleted a bunch of records one right after the other real quickly", what would happen to the display on the view machine. Somtimes, not always I could trip up the program and cause error messages to be displayed. By reducing the refresh interval this problem seems to have gone away. I was just wondering if this was truly a solution to the problem. Charlotte Foust wrote: >I don't think I understand what you mean by "on another machine"? Are >you using remote access to a machine or are you deleting the records >from the form in an instance running on your desktop? > >Charlotte Foust > >-----Original Message----- >From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com >[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Tony Septav >Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2008 4:37 AM >To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving >Subject: [AccessD] MDB Refresh interval > >Hey All >I have been doing some testing on a program, deleting a group of >records when muiltiple users are online working in the same bound form. >I was getting at times error messages, on one machine when I deleted a >group of records on another machine. In fact the one machine would >lose the record source at times. >Now a question for the network experts, I dropped the refresh rate from >60 down to 20 seconds, and the problem seems to have gone away. Is >this coincidence or would doing this really eleviate the problem. >-- >AccessD mailing list >AccessD at databaseadvisors.com >http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd >Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > > -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From iggy at nanaimo.ark.com Wed Jul 2 08:43:12 2008 From: iggy at nanaimo.ark.com (Tony Septav) Date: Wed, 02 Jul 2008 06:43:12 -0700 Subject: [AccessD] MDB Refresh interval In-Reply-To: References: <486B6867.5090704@nanaimo.ark.com> <486B75BB.50707@nanaimo.ark.com> Message-ID: <486B85F0.7000104@nanaimo.ark.com> Thanks Charlotte My question has been answered. Charlotte Foust wrote: >I see. Yes, the refresh interval should make all the difference if >you're going to use bound forms that way. > >Charlotte Foust > >-----Original Message----- >From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com >[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Tony Septav >Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2008 5:34 AM >To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving >Subject: Re: [AccessD] MDB Refresh interval > >Hey Charlotte >I have a little network setup in my office, 3 machines linked to a >server. I have put the data on the server. Then on two of the >machines, I start up the program and open the same data entry >continuous form. > >On one machine the form is an edit/update form, on the other it is a >view only form. >The idea being that when a record is deleted or changed I set a flag, >the OnTimer event for the view machine checks for this flag, if it finds >it, it refreshes/requeries the view form. > >I was running a .1% scenario, "What if one user was viewing the data >while another user deleted a bunch of records one right after the other >real quickly", what would happen to the display on the view machine. > >Somtimes, not always I could trip up the program and cause error >messages to be displayed. > >By reducing the refresh interval this problem seems to have gone away. I >was just wondering if this was truly a solution to the problem. > >Charlotte Foust wrote: > > > >>I don't think I understand what you mean by "on another machine"? Are >>you using remote access to a machine or are you deleting the records >> >> >>from the form in an instance running on your desktop? > > >>Charlotte Foust >> >>-----Original Message----- >>From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com >>[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Tony Septav >>Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2008 4:37 AM >>To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving >>Subject: [AccessD] MDB Refresh interval >> >>Hey All >>I have been doing some testing on a program, deleting a group of >>records when muiltiple users are online working in the same bound form. >>I was getting at times error messages, on one machine when I deleted a >>group of records on another machine. In fact the one machine would >>lose the record source at times. >>Now a question for the network experts, I dropped the refresh rate from >> >> > > > >>60 down to 20 seconds, and the problem seems to have gone away. Is >>this coincidence or would doing this really eleviate the problem. >>-- >>AccessD mailing list >>AccessD at databaseadvisors.com >>http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd >>Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com >> >> >> >> >> > >-- >AccessD mailing list >AccessD at databaseadvisors.com >http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd >Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > > From John.Clark at niagaracounty.com Wed Jul 2 12:28:38 2008 From: John.Clark at niagaracounty.com (John Clark) Date: Wed, 02 Jul 2008 13:28:38 -0400 Subject: [AccessD] Missing library? In-Reply-To: <486B85F0.7000104@nanaimo.ark.com> References: <486B6867.5090704@nanaimo.ark.com> <486B75BB.50707@nanaimo.ark.com> <486B85F0.7000104@nanaimo.ark.com> Message-ID: <486B8282.167F.006B.0@niagaracounty.com> I am at client PC, looking at an A97 issue. I think I am missing a library. This was a new PC, which we had to install A97 on...came w/A07 I'm not sure what library I need though...DAO? The commands it is erroring on are simple ones..."format" "mid" etc. I'm not trying to reinstall of A97...any guidance? John W. Clark Information Technology Technician Niagara County Central Data Processing From DWUTKA at Marlow.com Wed Jul 2 12:38:32 2008 From: DWUTKA at Marlow.com (Drew Wutka) Date: Wed, 2 Jul 2008 12:38:32 -0500 Subject: [AccessD] Missing library? In-Reply-To: <486B8282.167F.006B.0@niagaracounty.com> Message-ID: Does it list any missing references? Drew -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of John Clark Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2008 12:29 PM To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving Subject: [AccessD] Missing library? I am at client PC, looking at an A97 issue. I think I am missing a library. This was a new PC, which we had to install A97 on...came w/A07 I'm not sure what library I need though...DAO? The commands it is erroring on are simple ones..."format" "mid" etc. I'm not trying to reinstall of A97...any guidance? John W. Clark Information Technology Technician Niagara County Central Data Processing -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com The information contained in this transmission is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain II-VI Proprietary and/or II-VI Business Sensitive material. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender immediately and destroy the material in its entirety, whether electronic or hard copy. You are notified that any review, retransmission, copying, disclosure, dissemination, or other use of, or taking of any action in reliance upon this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient is prohibited. From bryan at stlcc.edu Wed Jul 2 12:36:36 2008 From: bryan at stlcc.edu (Ryan, Bob T.) Date: Wed, 2 Jul 2008 12:36:36 -0500 Subject: [AccessD] Missing library? Message-ID: Try the MS Excel library or VBA library -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of John Clark Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2008 12:29 PM To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving Subject: [AccessD] Missing library? I am at client PC, looking at an A97 issue. I think I am missing a library. This was a new PC, which we had to install A97 on...came w/A07 I'm not sure what library I need though...DAO? The commands it is erroring on are simple ones..."format" "mid" etc. I'm not trying to reinstall of A97...any guidance? John W. Clark Information Technology Technician Niagara County Central Data Processing -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From garykjos at gmail.com Wed Jul 2 12:47:09 2008 From: garykjos at gmail.com (Gary Kjos) Date: Wed, 2 Jul 2008 12:47:09 -0500 Subject: [AccessD] Missing library? In-Reply-To: References: <486B8282.167F.006B.0@niagaracounty.com> Message-ID: Could just be the sequence of the references too. Move the OFFICE one UP on the list. as explained here... http://objectmix.com/ado-dao-rdo-rds/389621-mid-function-used-query-report-undefined.html I think it's one called Visual Basic for Applications named VBA6.DLL or something similar. It's probably flagged as missing and if you tell it to go look for it it will find it and you will be golden. GK On 7/2/08, Drew Wutka wrote: > Does it list any missing references? > > Drew > > -----Original Message----- > From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of John Clark > Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2008 12:29 PM > To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving > Subject: [AccessD] Missing library? > > I am at client PC, looking at an A97 issue. I think I am missing a > library. This was a new PC, which we had to install A97 on...came w/A07 > > I'm not sure what library I need though...DAO? The commands it is > erroring on are simple ones..."format" "mid" etc. > > I'm not trying to reinstall of A97...any guidance? > > > John W. Clark > Information Technology Technician > Niagara County > Central Data Processing > > -- > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > The information contained in this transmission is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain II-VI Proprietary and/or II-VI Business Sensitive material. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender immediately and destroy the material in its entirety, whether electronic or hard copy. You are notified that any review, retransmission, copying, disclosure, dissemination, or other use of, or taking of any action in reliance upon this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient is prohibited. > > > -- > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > -- Gary Kjos garykjos at gmail.com From John.Clark at niagaracounty.com Wed Jul 2 13:00:15 2008 From: John.Clark at niagaracounty.com (John Clark) Date: Wed, 02 Jul 2008 14:00:15 -0400 Subject: [AccessD] Missing library? In-Reply-To: References: <486B8282.167F.006B.0@niagaracounty.com> Message-ID: <486B89EE.167F.006B.0@niagaracounty.com> hmmm.thanks for the tips. But, now I've got a different issue...I can't seem to get into "references." I've got the module window open, but "references" is greyed out. I just did a total re-install (unist. 1st) of A97, and chose everything, but no-go. John W. Clark Information Technology Technician Niagara County Central Data Processing >>> "Gary Kjos" 7/2/2008 1:47 PM >>> Could just be the sequence of the references too. Move the OFFICE one UP on the list. as explained here... http://objectmix.com/ado-dao-rdo-rds/389621-mid-function-used-query-report-undefined.html I think it's one called Visual Basic for Applications named VBA6.DLL or something similar. It's probably flagged as missing and if you tell it to go look for it it will find it and you will be golden. GK On 7/2/08, Drew Wutka wrote: > Does it list any missing references? > > Drew > > -----Original Message----- > From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of John Clark > Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2008 12:29 PM > To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving > Subject: [AccessD] Missing library? > > I am at client PC, looking at an A97 issue. I think I am missing a > library. This was a new PC, which we had to install A97 on...came w/A07 > > I'm not sure what library I need though...DAO? The commands it is > erroring on are simple ones..."format" "mid" etc. > > I'm not trying to reinstall of A97...any guidance? > > > John W. Clark > Information Technology Technician > Niagara County > Central Data Processing > > -- > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > The information contained in this transmission is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain II-VI Proprietary and/or II-VI Business Sensitive material. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender immediately and destroy the material in its entirety, whether electronic or hard copy. You are notified that any review, retransmission, copying, disclosure, dissemination, or other use of, or taking of any action in reliance upon this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient is prohibited. > > > -- > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > -- Gary Kjos garykjos at gmail.com -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From bryan at stlcc.edu Wed Jul 2 13:02:12 2008 From: bryan at stlcc.edu (Ryan, Bob T.) Date: Wed, 2 Jul 2008 13:02:12 -0500 Subject: [AccessD] Missing library? Message-ID: Are you in break mode? If so, just click the 'stop' button. -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of John Clark Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2008 1:00 PM To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving Subject: Re: [AccessD] Missing library? hmmm.thanks for the tips. But, now I've got a different issue...I can't seem to get into "references." I've got the module window open, but "references" is greyed out. I just did a total re-install (unist. 1st) of A97, and chose everything, but no-go. John W. Clark Information Technology Technician Niagara County Central Data Processing >>> "Gary Kjos" 7/2/2008 1:47 PM >>> Could just be the sequence of the references too. Move the OFFICE one UP on the list. as explained here... http://objectmix.com/ado-dao-rdo-rds/389621-mid-function-used-query-repo rt-undefined.html I think it's one called Visual Basic for Applications named VBA6.DLL or something similar. It's probably flagged as missing and if you tell it to go look for it it will find it and you will be golden. GK On 7/2/08, Drew Wutka wrote: > Does it list any missing references? > > Drew > > -----Original Message----- > From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of John Clark > Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2008 12:29 PM > To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving > Subject: [AccessD] Missing library? > > I am at client PC, looking at an A97 issue. I think I am missing a > library. This was a new PC, which we had to install A97 on...came w/A07 > > I'm not sure what library I need though...DAO? The commands it is > erroring on are simple ones..."format" "mid" etc. > > I'm not trying to reinstall of A97...any guidance? > > > John W. Clark > Information Technology Technician > Niagara County > Central Data Processing > > -- > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > The information contained in this transmission is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain II-VI Proprietary and/or II-VI Business Sensitive material. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender immediately and destroy the material in its entirety, whether electronic or hard copy. You are notified that any review, retransmission, copying, disclosure, dissemination, or other use of, or taking of any action in reliance upon this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient is prohibited. > > > -- > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > -- Gary Kjos garykjos at gmail.com -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From wdhindman at dejpolsystems.com Wed Jul 2 14:38:48 2008 From: wdhindman at dejpolsystems.com (William Hindman) Date: Wed, 2 Jul 2008 15:38:48 -0400 Subject: [AccessD] Missing library? References: <486B6867.5090704@nanaimo.ark.com> <486B75BB.50707@nanaimo.ark.com><486B85F0.7000104@nanaimo.ark.com> <486B8282.167F.006B.0@niagaracounty.com> Message-ID: ...you need the Dao 3.6 but ado is installed by default iirc ...and the Dao reference must be ahead of the ado ref in the list ...and if the A97 app was converted from an earlier version you may need the Dao 3.5 compatibility dll as well ...open a code module and then tool/references ...if its grayed out you may have to use the ms tool to do a clean uninstall of O2007 first and then reinstall A97. William -------------------------------------------------- From: "John Clark" Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2008 1:28 PM To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving" Subject: [AccessD] Missing library? > I am at client PC, looking at an A97 issue. I think I am missing a > library. This was a new PC, which we had to install A97 on...came w/A07 > > I'm not sure what library I need though...DAO? The commands it is erroring > on are simple ones..."format" "mid" etc. > > I'm not trying to reinstall of A97...any guidance? > > > John W. Clark > Information Technology Technician > Niagara County > Central Data Processing > > -- > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From Darryl.Collins at coles.com.au Wed Jul 2 19:02:54 2008 From: Darryl.Collins at coles.com.au (Darryl Collins) Date: Thu, 3 Jul 2008 10:02:54 +1000 Subject: [AccessD] Office Link in a customed Menu Bar In-Reply-To: <29f585dd0807020737k4e2485a1xdfc0fdffe77e7a2b@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <57E6E6CA42105A48B977303A2CDC2720076BF12CAE@WPEXCH22.retail.ad.cmltd.net.au> Yep, Same in Excel. All custom toolbars that used to appear where-ever (top, floating, bottom etc) are stashed under the Addins Tab as a default. I believe you can create your own tab but I have never tried it or even looked into it. No-one I know or worth for/with uses Office 2007 so there has been no real need to dig any deeper at this point. I am not sure if this is the issue though, as it seems the custom toolbar in question is there and visible, but not the office link button on the toolbar. -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Arthur Fuller Sent: Thursday, 3 July 2008 12:38 AM To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving Subject: Re: [AccessD] Office Link in a customed Menu Bar In a recent app I had a custom toolbar in A2k3 that "disappeared" when I ran it in A2K7. But then I managed to find where it was hiding. Thanks to the Ribbon technology, it was hiding under "Add Ins". I at least know where to find it now. This may or may not be applicable to your situation. 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From ssharkins at gmail.com Wed Jul 2 19:28:30 2008 From: ssharkins at gmail.com (Susan Harkins) Date: Wed, 2 Jul 2008 20:28:30 -0400 Subject: [AccessD] InfoPath and Access Message-ID: <0ddf01c8dca3$b999e630$2f8601c7@SusanOne> I want to keep a form open for intermittent data entry, but I don't want to keep Access open. In fact, I'd just as soon Access never open period. I don't need this form to be dynamic necessarily -- but I will want the user to be able to click a button and send the data to an Access database. What I'm wondering is how much of a nuisance it is to keep an InfoPath form open and running all the time -- is this even a good idea? Susan H. From rusty.hammond at cpiqpc.com Wed Jul 2 22:50:27 2008 From: rusty.hammond at cpiqpc.com (rusty.hammond at cpiqpc.com) Date: Wed, 2 Jul 2008 22:50:27 -0500 Subject: [AccessD] InfoPath and Access Message-ID: <49A286ABF515E94A8505CD14DEB721704D0068@CPIEMAIL-EVS1.CPIQPC.NET> I don't know anything about Infopath but how about a small one form VB app? Of course you have to have a copy of VB to create it. -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Susan Harkins Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2008 7:29 PM To: AccessD at databaseadvisors.com Subject: [AccessD] InfoPath and Access I want to keep a form open for intermittent data entry, but I don't want to keep Access open. In fact, I'd just as soon Access never open period. I don't need this form to be dynamic necessarily -- but I will want the user to be able to click a button and send the data to an Access database. What I'm wondering is how much of a nuisance it is to keep an InfoPath form open and running all the time -- is this even a good idea? Susan H. -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com ********************************************************************** WARNING: All e-mail sent to and from this address will be received, scanned or otherwise recorded by the CPI Qualified Plan Consultants, Inc. corporate e-mail system and is subject to archival, monitoring or review by, and/or disclosure to, someone other than the recipient. ********************************************************************** From wdhindman at dejpolsystems.com Wed Jul 2 23:10:33 2008 From: wdhindman at dejpolsystems.com (William Hindman) Date: Thu, 3 Jul 2008 00:10:33 -0400 Subject: [AccessD] InfoPath and Access References: <0ddf01c8dca3$b999e630$2f8601c7@SusanOne> Message-ID: ...take a look at microsoft's vs8 vb express (free) using an mdb be ...you can gather all the info in a simple desktop form and when the user pushes a button, bind to the mdb, load the data, and close the connection ...you can do all of that without writing a single line of code in all probability ...even use SQLServer exp instead of an mdb if you'd like. William "My friends, we live in the greatest country in the world. Please join with me as we try to change it." Obama -------------------------------------------------- From: "Susan Harkins" Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2008 8:28 PM To: Subject: [AccessD] InfoPath and Access > I want to keep a form open for intermittent data entry, but I don't want > to > keep Access open. In fact, I'd just as soon Access never open period. I > don't need this form to be dynamic necessarily -- but I will want the user > to be able to click a button and send the data to an Access database. > > What I'm wondering is how much of a nuisance it is to keep an InfoPath > form > open and running all the time -- is this even a good idea? > > Susan H. > > -- > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From phpons at gmail.com Thu Jul 3 02:05:25 2008 From: phpons at gmail.com (philippe pons) Date: Thu, 3 Jul 2008 09:05:25 +0200 Subject: [AccessD] Office Link in a customed Menu Bar In-Reply-To: <57E6E6CA42105A48B977303A2CDC2720076BF12CAE@WPEXCH22.retail.ad.cmltd.net.au> References: <29f585dd0807020737k4e2485a1xdfc0fdffe77e7a2b@mail.gmail.com> <57E6E6CA42105A48B977303A2CDC2720076BF12CAE@WPEXCH22.retail.ad.cmltd.net.au> Message-ID: <57144ced0807030005s30480cf5v158897d5ebced403@mail.gmail.com> Thank's to all, for your answers. What I did is recreate a new button within the toolbar, and attached a function to its onaction property, that run a DoCmd.OpenReport "pprptAdressesEntit?s", acViewPreview and I'm happy with that! Philippe 2008/7/3 Darryl Collins : > > Yep, Same in Excel. All custom toolbars that used to appear where-ever > (top, floating, bottom etc) are stashed under the Addins Tab as a default. I > believe you can create your own tab but I have never tried it or even looked > into it. No-one I know or worth for/with uses Office 2007 so there has been > no real need to dig any deeper at this point. > > I am not sure if this is the issue though, as it seems the custom toolbar > in question is there and visible, but not the office link button on the > toolbar. > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Arthur Fuller > Sent: Thursday, 3 July 2008 12:38 AM > To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving > Subject: Re: [AccessD] Office Link in a customed Menu Bar > > > In a recent app I had a custom toolbar in A2k3 that "disappeared" when I > ran > it in A2K7. But then I managed to find where it was hiding. Thanks to the > Ribbon technology, it was hiding under "Add Ins". I at least know where to > find it now. > > This may or may not be applicable to your situation. > > Arthur > -- > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > This email and any attachments may contain privileged and confidential > information and are intended for the named addressee only. If you have > received this e-mail in error, please notify the sender and delete this > e-mail immediately. Any confidentiality, privilege or copyright is not > waived or lost because this e-mail has been sent to you in error. It is your > responsibility to check this e-mail and any attachments for viruses. No > warranty is made that this material is free from computer virus or any other > defect or error. Any loss/damage incurred by using this material is not the > sender's responsibility. The sender's entire liability will be limited to > resupplying the material. > > -- > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > From Gustav at cactus.dk Thu Jul 3 04:38:45 2008 From: Gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock) Date: Thu, 03 Jul 2008 11:38:45 +0200 Subject: [AccessD] InfoPath and Access Message-ID: Hi William You are brave - you did this banana thing again! /gustav >>> wdhindman at dejpolsystems.com 03-07-2008 06:10 >>> ...take a look at microsoft's vs8 vb express (free) using an mdb be ...you can gather all the info in a simple desktop form and when the user pushes a button, bind to the mdb, load the data, and close the connection ...you can do all of that without writing a single line of code in all probability ...even use SQLServer exp instead of an mdb if you'd like. William "My friends, we live in the greatest country in the world. Please join with me as we try to change it." Obama From fuller.artful at gmail.com Thu Jul 3 04:48:16 2008 From: fuller.artful at gmail.com (Arthur Fuller) Date: Thu, 3 Jul 2008 06:48:16 -0300 Subject: [AccessD] InfoPath and Access In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <29f585dd0807030248m4621e550i9eae073f080f3b3b@mail.gmail.com> A new acronym coined specifically for William: UTRS (Unable To Resist Signatures). Incidentally, William, I have sent you a couple of emails requesting your mailing address because I have a postcard to send you from Bermuda. Why have you not replied? Are you hiding out? A. From Gustav at cactus.dk Thu Jul 3 05:00:35 2008 From: Gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock) Date: Thu, 03 Jul 2008 12:00:35 +0200 Subject: [AccessD] InfoPath and Access Message-ID: Hi Arthur He could team up with JC. The one is not here, the other is nowhere! William, Arthur is not joking. He even marks his residence on the card to allow you to book plane and taxi as a bundle. /gustav >>> fuller.artful at gmail.com 03-07-2008 11:48 >>> A new acronym coined specifically for William: UTRS (Unable To Resist Signatures). Incidentally, William, I have sent you a couple of emails requesting your mailing address because I have a postcard to send you from Bermuda. Why have you not replied? Are you hiding out? A. From wdhindman at dejpolsystems.com Thu Jul 3 07:03:32 2008 From: wdhindman at dejpolsystems.com (William Hindman) Date: Thu, 3 Jul 2008 08:03:32 -0400 Subject: [AccessD] InfoPath and Access References: Message-ID: <83BFA9CBDB2C43A69A077B6C469DDC0A@jislaptopdev> ...ah sh*t! ...thanks gustav. William "My friends, we live in the greatest country in the world. Please join with me as we try to change it." Obama -------------------------------------------------- From: "Gustav Brock" Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2008 5:38 AM To: Subject: Re: [AccessD] InfoPath and Access > Hi William > > You are brave - you did this banana thing again! > > /gustav > >>>> wdhindman at dejpolsystems.com 03-07-2008 06:10 >>> > ...take a look at microsoft's vs8 vb express (free) using an mdb be ...you > can gather all the info in a simple desktop form and when the user pushes > a > button, bind to the mdb, load the data, and close the connection ...you > can > do all of that without writing a single line of code in all probability > ...even use SQLServer exp instead of an mdb if you'd like. > > William > "My friends, we live in the greatest country in the world. Please join > with > me as we try to change it." Obama > > > > -- > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From wdhindman at dejpolsystems.com Thu Jul 3 07:07:19 2008 From: wdhindman at dejpolsystems.com (William Hindman) Date: Thu, 3 Jul 2008 08:07:19 -0400 Subject: [AccessD] InfoPath and Access References: <29f585dd0807030248m4621e550i9eae073f080f3b3b@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <564D69413F924476A081FA2B6FFF1482@jislaptopdev> ...guilty as charged ...it was late and I was torn between replying and just hitting the sack ...the sig just never crossed my mind ...I've not seen anything in my mail from you ...what address are you using? William -------------------------------------------------- From: "Arthur Fuller" Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2008 5:48 AM To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving" Subject: Re: [AccessD] InfoPath and Access > A new acronym coined specifically for William: UTRS (Unable To Resist > Signatures). > > Incidentally, William, I have sent you a couple of emails requesting your > mailing address because I have a postcard to send you from Bermuda. Why > have > you not replied? Are you hiding out? > > A. > -- > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From wdhindman at dejpolsystems.com Thu Jul 3 07:12:02 2008 From: wdhindman at dejpolsystems.com (William Hindman) Date: Thu, 3 Jul 2008 08:12:02 -0400 Subject: [AccessD] InfoPath and Access References: Message-ID: <0915A6019CF44E91AFD8C9FD5727D024@jislaptopdev> ...ah me ...and I could use a week in Bermuda about now ...just finished transitioning a client's web site to asp.net and the niggling little changes are wearing me down ...a few days on Arthur's couch might be the cure :( William -------------------------------------------------- From: "Gustav Brock" Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2008 6:00 AM To: Subject: Re: [AccessD] InfoPath and Access > Hi Arthur > > He could team up with JC. The one is not here, the other is nowhere! > > William, Arthur is not joking. He even marks his residence on the card to > allow you to book plane and taxi as a bundle. > > /gustav > >>>> fuller.artful at gmail.com 03-07-2008 11:48 >>> > A new acronym coined specifically for William: UTRS (Unable To Resist > Signatures). > > Incidentally, William, I have sent you a couple of emails requesting your > mailing address because I have a postcard to send you from Bermuda. Why > have > you not replied? Are you hiding out? > > A. > > > -- > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From fuller.artful at gmail.com Thu Jul 3 07:40:40 2008 From: fuller.artful at gmail.com (Arthur Fuller) Date: Thu, 3 Jul 2008 09:40:40 -0300 Subject: [AccessD] InfoPath and Access In-Reply-To: <564D69413F924476A081FA2B6FFF1482@jislaptopdev> References: <29f585dd0807030248m4621e550i9eae073f080f3b3b@mail.gmail.com> <564D69413F924476A081FA2B6FFF1482@jislaptopdev> Message-ID: <29f585dd0807030540m416d7f47jb8e5ea79c3ddabda@mail.gmail.com> William, I used whindman at dejpolsystems.com which is the only address I have for you. Anyway, the request was for your mailing address so I could send you a postcard. And since my last post about the couch, I have discovered that it folds out and becomes a bed. Arthur From ssharkins at gmail.com Thu Jul 3 07:51:59 2008 From: ssharkins at gmail.com (Susan Harkins) Date: Thu, 3 Jul 2008 08:51:59 -0400 Subject: [AccessD] InfoPath and Access References: <29f585dd0807030248m4621e550i9eae073f080f3b3b@mail.gmail.com><564D69413F924476A081FA2B6FFF1482@jislaptopdev> <29f585dd0807030540m416d7f47jb8e5ea79c3ddabda@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <009901c8dd0b$96ed1e00$2f8601c7@SusanOne> I got my card and William... bring a sleeping bag cause you'll be on the floor! ;) Susan H. > I used > whindman at dejpolsystems.com which is the only address I have for you. > Anyway, > the request was for your mailing address so I could send you a postcard. > And > since my last post about the couch, I have discovered that it folds out > and > becomes a bed. > > Arthur > -- > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From ssharkins at gmail.com Thu Jul 3 08:20:56 2008 From: ssharkins at gmail.com (Susan Harkins) Date: Thu, 3 Jul 2008 09:20:56 -0400 Subject: [AccessD] Article on stuff broken in Access 2007 Message-ID: <013301c8dd0f$a2b92630$2f8601c7@SusanOne> I wrote this for TechRepublic.com and since it's getting a little feedback, thought some of you might want to follow the conversations. I've already seen at least one issue I didn't know about in the responses. Susan H. From markamatte at hotmail.com Thu Jul 3 08:25:38 2008 From: markamatte at hotmail.com (Mark A Matte) Date: Thu, 3 Jul 2008 13:25:38 +0000 Subject: [AccessD] InfoPath and Access In-Reply-To: <0ddf01c8dca3$b999e630$2f8601c7@SusanOne> References: <0ddf01c8dca3$b999e630$2f8601c7@SusanOne> Message-ID: Susan, This seems like a perfect use for Data Access Pages. They are available in Access 2000 and above. The 'form' runs in IE and you don't even need to have MS Access on the machine. I've used them several times just for data entry applications... Hope it helps, Mark A. Matte > From: ssharkins at gmail.com > To: AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > Date: Wed, 2 Jul 2008 20:28:30 -0400 > Subject: [AccessD] InfoPath and Access > > I want to keep a form open for intermittent data entry, but I don't want to > keep Access open. In fact, I'd just as soon Access never open period. I > don't need this form to be dynamic necessarily -- but I will want the user > to be able to click a button and send the data to an Access database. > > What I'm wondering is how much of a nuisance it is to keep an InfoPath form > open and running all the time -- is this even a good idea? > > Susan H. > > -- > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com _________________________________________________________________ Watch ?Cause Effect,? a show about real people making a real difference. Learn more. http://im.live.com/Messenger/IM/MTV/?source=text_watchcause From wdhindman at dejpolsystems.com Thu Jul 3 08:35:34 2008 From: wdhindman at dejpolsystems.com (William Hindman) Date: Thu, 3 Jul 2008 09:35:34 -0400 Subject: [AccessD] InfoPath and Access References: <29f585dd0807030248m4621e550i9eae073f080f3b3b@mail.gmail.com><564D69413F924476A081FA2B6FFF1482@jislaptopdev> <29f585dd0807030540m416d7f47jb8e5ea79c3ddabda@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <3C2DE3D4AF6849A7BC677CB34566EE4E@jislaptopdev> ...wdhindman@ ...not whindman :) William -------------------------------------------------- From: "Arthur Fuller" Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2008 8:40 AM To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving" Subject: Re: [AccessD] InfoPath and Access > William, > > I used > whindman at dejpolsystems.com which is the only address I have for you. > Anyway, > the request was for your mailing address so I could send you a postcard. > And > since my last post about the couch, I have discovered that it folds out > and > becomes a bed. > > Arthur > -- > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From wdhindman at dejpolsystems.com Thu Jul 3 08:40:21 2008 From: wdhindman at dejpolsystems.com (William Hindman) Date: Thu, 3 Jul 2008 09:40:21 -0400 Subject: [AccessD] InfoPath and Access References: <29f585dd0807030248m4621e550i9eae073f080f3b3b@mail.gmail.com><564D69413F924476A081FA2B6FFF1482@jislaptopdev><29f585dd0807030540m416d7f47jb8e5ea79c3ddabda@mail.gmail.com> <009901c8dd0b$96ed1e00$2f8601c7@SusanOne> Message-ID: <4C99D5D4A5444936B8710F0151530319@jislaptopdev> ...uh huh ...and I'm sure Bill is going to buy that story, eh :) William -------------------------------------------------- From: "Susan Harkins" Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2008 8:51 AM To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving" Subject: Re: [AccessD] InfoPath and Access > I got my card and William... bring a sleeping bag cause you'll be on the > floor! ;) > > Susan H. >> I used >> whindman at dejpolsystems.com which is the only address I have for you. >> Anyway, >> the request was for your mailing address so I could send you a postcard. >> And >> since my last post about the couch, I have discovered that it folds out >> and >> becomes a bed. >> >> Arthur >> -- >> AccessD mailing list >> AccessD at databaseadvisors.com >> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd >> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > -- > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From robert at servicexp.com Thu Jul 3 08:43:28 2008 From: robert at servicexp.com (Robert) Date: Thu, 3 Jul 2008 09:43:28 -0400 Subject: [AccessD] InfoPath and Access In-Reply-To: <564D69413F924476A081FA2B6FFF1482@jislaptopdev> References: <29f585dd0807030248m4621e550i9eae073f080f3b3b@mail.gmail.com> <564D69413F924476A081FA2B6FFF1482@jislaptopdev> Message-ID: <001b01c8dd12$c7725d90$565718b0$@com> William, Not Irrespective of others opinions, I don't mind yours, or any ones else's, signatures. It's painfully evident that as we move forward through time, we become more and more "thin skinned" if you will. We end up whining and focusing on the most ridiculous things. It seems to me that there are many real harmful and destructive obstacles to maneuver through one's life than the words written / displayed. So much energy wasted one trivial matters. I debated whether to post, because invariably someone will wind up offended.. :-) My Humble Opinions / Observations -- WBR ~ Robert -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of William Hindman Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2008 8:07 AM To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving Subject: Re: [AccessD] InfoPath and Access ...guilty as charged ...it was late and I was torn between replying and just hitting the sack ...the sig just never crossed my mind ...I've not seen anything in my mail from you ...what address are you using? William -------------------------------------------------- From: "Arthur Fuller" Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2008 5:48 AM To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving" Subject: Re: [AccessD] InfoPath and Access > A new acronym coined specifically for William: UTRS (Unable To Resist > Signatures). > > Incidentally, William, I have sent you a couple of emails requesting your > mailing address because I have a postcard to send you from Bermuda. Why > have > you not replied? Are you hiding out? > > A. > -- > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From edzedz at comcast.net Thu Jul 3 09:48:21 2008 From: edzedz at comcast.net (Edward S Zuris) Date: Thu, 3 Jul 2008 07:48:21 -0700 Subject: [AccessD] Article on stuff broken in Access 2007 In-Reply-To: <013301c8dd0f$a2b92630$2f8601c7@SusanOne> Message-ID: <016101c8dd1b$d7a5ec50$66dea8c0@dudley1> Thanks Susan, The article on Access 2007 will be very helpful with discussion with one of my clients. Edz. . . . -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Susan Harkins Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2008 6:21 AM To: AccessD at databaseadvisors.com Subject: [AccessD] Article on stuff broken in Access 2007 I wrote this for TechRepublic.com and since it's getting a little feedback, thought some of you might want to follow the conversations. I've already seen at least one issue I didn't know about in the responses. Susan H. -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From John.Clark at niagaracounty.com Thu Jul 3 08:59:39 2008 From: John.Clark at niagaracounty.com (John Clark) Date: Thu, 03 Jul 2008 09:59:39 -0400 Subject: [AccessD] Missing library? In-Reply-To: References: <486B6867.5090704@nanaimo.ark.com> <486B75BB.50707@nanaimo.ark.com><486B85F0.7000104@nanaimo.ark.com> <486B8282.167F.006B.0@niagaracounty.com> Message-ID: <486CA30A.167F.006B.0@niagaracounty.com> Alright...so A97 and A07 WILL play together? I left about a half-hour after my last post, because I had to get back to the office. But, it was on my mind last night, and I swear I must have dreamt about it, because I was pretty convinced, when I came in this morning, that it was an issue between these two versions. I remember reading a bunch of posts, complaining about similar issues. And, personally, we could NOT get my A97 to work, on my PC...my PC was "redone" by our technicians, while I was off w/my knee surgery, and I needed several versions of Access installed. They got 07 and 03 to work together, but for A97 we needed to setup a virtual drive, on my PC. Everything was fine w/this program, before a couple of our younger techs went into this department and swapped out 4 or their 5 PCs. The program still works on the one PC that wasn't touched. So, I had them in my office this morning, and I asked them, along w/their supervisor, if they could "dial these PCs back" and remove 07. I requested that they put A03 and A97 on the PCs instead. I may run over to see these clients this morning. It is only about 1 mile across town, and it'll get me away from my desk. So I can check the order of the references, according to what you've provided. I don't remember exactly all that was loaded, but I was having problems changing the priority of them...it only let me do so much. The top three, if I am reading my notes correctly, were "Visual Basic for Applications" (VBA332.dll), "Microsoft Access 8.0 Object Library" (MSACC8.olb), and "Microsoft DAO 3.51 Object Library" (DAO350.DLL), and it didn't seem that I could alter this order at all. Further down the list was "dao360.dll," and I'm wondering if this is the 3.6 that your talking about...but, I couldn't move this up any higher. This program has been a PITA to me...it was written by an "external" programmer and he didn't follow my rules. Also, he "protected" it and I keep running into road-blocks. I've been doing another job, for the past couple of months...we had a person leave and I inherited their duties, so I've had little time for things like this. So, I don't have a bunch of time to devote to this problem...if I don't fix it by lunch, I'll probably have them blow one away, put it back to scratch, and see if the problem disappears. John W. Clark Information Technology Technician Niagara County Central Data Processing >>> "William Hindman" 7/2/2008 3:38 PM >>> ...you need the Dao 3.6 but ado is installed by default iirc ...and the Dao reference must be ahead of the ado ref in the list ...and if the A97 app was converted from an earlier version you may need the Dao 3.5 compatibility dll as well ...open a code module and then tool/references ...if its grayed out you may have to use the ms tool to do a clean uninstall of O2007 first and then reinstall A97. William -------------------------------------------------- From: "John Clark" Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2008 1:28 PM To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving" Subject: [AccessD] Missing library? > I am at client PC, looking at an A97 issue. I think I am missing a > library. This was a new PC, which we had to install A97 on...came w/A07 > > I'm not sure what library I need though...DAO? The commands it is erroring > on are simple ones..."format" "mid" etc. > > I'm not trying to reinstall of A97...any guidance? > > > John W. Clark > Information Technology Technician > Niagara County > Central Data Processing > > -- > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From ssharkins at gmail.com Thu Jul 3 09:01:00 2008 From: ssharkins at gmail.com (Susan Harkins) Date: Thu, 3 Jul 2008 10:01:00 -0400 Subject: [AccessD] Article on stuff broken in Access 2007 References: <016101c8dd1b$d7a5ec50$66dea8c0@dudley1> Message-ID: <01b401c8dd15$3afc3cc0$2f8601c7@SusanOne> > > The article on Access 2007 will be very helpful with > discussion with one of my clients. > > Edz. . . . =======I'm glad to hear that, so thank you for letting me know. The hardest issue for me is trying to determine what readers will find helpful. On TechRepublic.com the only real indication is the number of page hits (which I can see for the MS Office and Tech of All Trades blogs, but nothing else), votes, and then reader comments. It's frustrating when I write, what I think, is a terrific blog or article and then nobody seems to read it! Believe it or not, I'd rather see a long list of controversial responses than nothing at all. :) I'm going to start writing for the small to medium IT shops, so if anyone has any ideas, I'd be glad to hear them -- although, I guess that's a tad OT for this list, so if anyone wants to suggest something, you might want to do it over on the tech list or send me a private at ssharkins at gmail dot com. Susan H. From wdhindman at dejpolsystems.com Thu Jul 3 09:09:48 2008 From: wdhindman at dejpolsystems.com (William Hindman) Date: Thu, 3 Jul 2008 10:09:48 -0400 Subject: [AccessD] InfoPath and Access References: <29f585dd0807030248m4621e550i9eae073f080f3b3b@mail.gmail.com><564D69413F924476A081FA2B6FFF1482@jislaptopdev> <001b01c8dd12$c7725d90$565718b0$@com> Message-ID: <354D0B39F523496CB730597FE21722DF@jislaptopdev> ...thanks Robert ...but I really don't want to go that route here, eh ...the mod shut the topic down and that's it ...sigs are allowed ...but I said I'd try not to post them so as not to offend the Lamberts among us and I'll hold to that. William -------------------------------------------------- From: "Robert" Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2008 9:43 AM To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'" Subject: Re: [AccessD] InfoPath and Access > William, > Not Irrespective of others opinions, I don't mind yours, or any ones > else's, signatures. It's painfully evident that as we move forward through > time, we become more and more "thin skinned" if you will. We end up > whining > and focusing on the most ridiculous things. It seems to me that there are > many real harmful and destructive obstacles to maneuver through one's life > than the words written / displayed. So much energy wasted one trivial > matters. > > I debated whether to post, because invariably someone will wind up > offended.. :-) > > My Humble Opinions / Observations -- > > WBR > ~ Robert > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of William Hindman > Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2008 8:07 AM > To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving > Subject: Re: [AccessD] InfoPath and Access > > ...guilty as charged ...it was late and I was torn between replying and > just > > hitting the sack ...the sig just never crossed my mind ...I've not seen > anything in my mail from you ...what address are you using? > > William > > -------------------------------------------------- > From: "Arthur Fuller" > Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2008 5:48 AM > To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving" > > Subject: Re: [AccessD] InfoPath and Access > >> A new acronym coined specifically for William: UTRS (Unable To Resist >> Signatures). >> >> Incidentally, William, I have sent you a couple of emails requesting your >> mailing address because I have a postcard to send you from Bermuda. Why >> have >> you not replied? Are you hiding out? >> >> A. >> -- >> AccessD mailing list >> AccessD at databaseadvisors.com >> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd >> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > > -- > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > > -- > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > From Gustav at cactus.dk Thu Jul 3 09:10:02 2008 From: Gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock) Date: Thu, 03 Jul 2008 16:10:02 +0200 Subject: [AccessD] Missing library? Message-ID: Hi John DAO350.DLL and DAO360.DLL should not be referenced both. In fact I thought they even couldn't. Tell the tech kids, that all versions of Access can be installed on the same WinXP machine juxtaposed - I have from A2.0 to A2007. However, A95 will not run if you have 1 GB or more ram installed (error: Not enough memory). /gustav >>> John.Clark at niagaracounty.com 03-07-2008 15:59 >>> Alright...so A97 and A07 WILL play together? I left about a half-hour after my last post, because I had to get back to the office. But, it was on my mind last night, and I swear I must have dreamt about it, because I was pretty convinced, when I came in this morning, that it was an issue between these two versions. I remember reading a bunch of posts, complaining about similar issues. And, personally, we could NOT get my A97 to work, on my PC...my PC was "redone" by our technicians, while I was off w/my knee surgery, and I needed several versions of Access installed. They got 07 and 03 to work together, but for A97 we needed to setup a virtual drive, on my PC. Everything was fine w/this program, before a couple of our younger techs went into this department and swapped out 4 or their 5 PCs. The program still works on the one PC that wasn't touched. So, I had them in my office this morning, and I asked them, along w/their supervisor, if they could "dial these PCs back" and remove 07. I requested that they put A03 and A97 on the PCs instead. I may run over to see these clients this morning. It is only about 1 mile across town, and it'll get me away from my desk. So I can check the order of the references, according to what you've provided. I don't remember exactly all that was loaded, but I was having problems changing the priority of them...it only let me do so much. The top three, if I am reading my notes correctly, were "Visual Basic for Applications" (VBA332.dll), "Microsoft Access 8.0 Object Library" (MSACC8.olb), and "Microsoft DAO 3.51 Object Library" (DAO350.DLL), and it didn't seem that I could alter this order at all. Further down the list was "dao360.dll," and I'm wondering if this is the 3.6 that your talking about...but, I couldn't move this up any higher. This program has been a PITA to me...it was written by an "external" programmer and he didn't follow my rules. Also, he "protected" it and I keep running into road-blocks. I've been doing another job, for the past couple of months...we had a person leave and I inherited their duties, so I've had little time for things like this. So, I don't have a bunch of time to devote to this problem...if I don't fix it by lunch, I'll probably have them blow one away, put it back to scratch, and see if the problem disappears. John W. Clark Information Technology Technician Niagara County Central Data Processing From Gustav at cactus.dk Thu Jul 3 09:12:55 2008 From: Gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock) Date: Thu, 03 Jul 2008 16:12:55 +0200 Subject: [AccessD] Article on stuff broken in Access 2007 Message-ID: Hi Susan You should have told us. Now you have five votes! /gustav >>> ssharkins at gmail.com 03-07-2008 16:01 >>> > > The article on Access 2007 will be very helpful with > discussion with one of my clients. > > Edz. . . . =======I'm glad to hear that, so thank you for letting me know. The hardest issue for me is trying to determine what readers will find helpful. On TechRepublic.com the only real indication is the number of page hits (which I can see for the MS Office and Tech of All Trades blogs, but nothing else), votes, and then reader comments. It's frustrating when I write, what I think, is a terrific blog or article and then nobody seems to read it! Believe it or not, I'd rather see a long list of controversial responses than nothing at all. :) I'm going to start writing for the small to medium IT shops, so if anyone has any ideas, I'd be glad to hear them -- although, I guess that's a tad OT for this list, so if anyone wants to suggest something, you might want to do it over on the tech list or send me a private at ssharkins at gmail dot com. Susan H. From wdhindman at dejpolsystems.com Thu Jul 3 09:23:05 2008 From: wdhindman at dejpolsystems.com (William Hindman) Date: Thu, 3 Jul 2008 10:23:05 -0400 Subject: [AccessD] Missing library? References: <486B6867.5090704@nanaimo.ark.com> <486B75BB.50707@nanaimo.ark.com><486B85F0.7000104@nanaimo.ark.com><486B8282.167F.006B.0@niagaracounty.com> <486CA30A.167F.006B.0@niagaracounty.com> Message-ID: <3A75D3CB31C445578153FFC7D7AACC54@jislaptopdev> ...they will play if the installation order is right and you have the patience of job ...I've moved to having each in a separate virtual pc install instead ...in case you've not noticed, patience is not one of my virtues ...with ms giving away free copies of xp on a vhd, it just doesn't make sense to me to try and mix them all on the same platform any longer. ...btw, iirc the presence of dao 3.51 means you have unconverted A2/A95 code in the mdb and it will not play further up the line ...if you intend to keep this app alive, you need to do a full conversion in A97 and update all that old code before upgrading further ...imnsho of course. William -------------------------------------------------- From: "John Clark" Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2008 9:59 AM To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving" Subject: Re: [AccessD] Missing library? > Alright...so A97 and A07 WILL play together? > > I left about a half-hour after my last post, because I had to get back to > the office. But, it was on my mind last night, and I swear I must have > dreamt about it, because I was pretty convinced, when I came in this > morning, that it was an issue between these two versions. I remember > reading a bunch of posts, complaining about similar issues. And, > personally, we could NOT get my A97 to work, on my PC...my PC was "redone" > by our technicians, while I was off w/my knee surgery, and I needed > several versions of Access installed. They got 07 and 03 to work together, > but for A97 we needed to setup a virtual drive, on my PC. > > Everything was fine w/this program, before a couple of our younger techs > went into this department and swapped out 4 or their 5 PCs. The program > still works on the one PC that wasn't touched. So, I had them in my office > this morning, and I asked them, along w/their supervisor, if they could > "dial these PCs back" and remove 07. I requested that they put A03 and A97 > on the PCs instead. > > I may run over to see these clients this morning. It is only about 1 mile > across town, and it'll get me away from my desk. So I can check the order > of the references, according to what you've provided. I don't remember > exactly all that was loaded, but I was having problems changing the > priority of them...it only let me do so much. > > The top three, if I am reading my notes correctly, were "Visual Basic for > Applications" (VBA332.dll), "Microsoft Access 8.0 Object Library" > (MSACC8.olb), and "Microsoft DAO 3.51 Object Library" (DAO350.DLL), and it > didn't seem that I could alter this order at all. Further down the list > was "dao360.dll," and I'm wondering if this is the 3.6 that your talking > about...but, I couldn't move this up any higher. > > This program has been a PITA to me...it was written by an "external" > programmer and he didn't follow my rules. Also, he "protected" it and I > keep running into road-blocks. > > I've been doing another job, for the past couple of months...we had a > person leave and I inherited their duties, so I've had little time for > things like this. So, I don't have a bunch of time to devote to this > problem...if I don't fix it by lunch, I'll probably have them blow one > away, put it back to scratch, and see if the problem disappears. > > John W. Clark > Information Technology Technician > Niagara County > Central Data Processing > > > >>>> "William Hindman" 7/2/2008 3:38 PM >>> > ...you need the Dao 3.6 but ado is installed by default iirc ...and the > Dao > reference must be ahead of the ado ref in the list ...and if the A97 app > was > converted from an earlier version you may need the Dao 3.5 compatibility > dll > as well ...open a code module and then tool/references ...if its grayed > out > you may have to use the ms tool to do a clean uninstall of O2007 first and > then reinstall A97. > > William > > -------------------------------------------------- > From: "John Clark" > Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2008 1:28 PM > To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving" > > Subject: [AccessD] Missing library? > >> I am at client PC, looking at an A97 issue. I think I am missing a >> library. This was a new PC, which we had to install A97 on...came w/A07 >> >> I'm not sure what library I need though...DAO? The commands it is >> erroring >> on are simple ones..."format" "mid" etc. >> >> I'm not trying to reinstall of A97...any guidance? >> >> >> John W. Clark >> Information Technology Technician >> Niagara County >> Central Data Processing >> >> -- >> AccessD mailing list >> AccessD at databaseadvisors.com >> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd >> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > > -- > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > -- > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From rockysmolin at bchacc.com Thu Jul 3 09:26:05 2008 From: rockysmolin at bchacc.com (rockysmolin at bchacc.com) Date: Thu, 3 Jul 2008 10:26:05 -0400 Subject: [AccessD] Missing library? Message-ID: <380-220087431426534@M2W044.mail2web.com> John: On the machine where you have 03 and 07 working together do you get that "Installing..." message and the 1-2 minute delay while it switches over every time you switch from one to the other? Rocky Original Message: ----------------- From: John Clark John.Clark at niagaracounty.com Date: Thu, 03 Jul 2008 09:59:39 -0400 To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: Re: [AccessD] Missing library? Alright...so A97 and A07 WILL play together? I left about a half-hour after my last post, because I had to get back to the office. But, it was on my mind last night, and I swear I must have dreamt about it, because I was pretty convinced, when I came in this morning, that it was an issue between these two versions. I remember reading a bunch of posts, complaining about similar issues. And, personally, we could NOT get my A97 to work, on my PC...my PC was "redone" by our technicians, while I was off w/my knee surgery, and I needed several versions of Access installed. They got 07 and 03 to work together, but for A97 we needed to setup a virtual drive, on my PC. Everything was fine w/this program, before a couple of our younger techs went into this department and swapped out 4 or their 5 PCs. The program still works on the one PC that wasn't touched. So, I had them in my office this morning, and I asked them, along w/their supervisor, if they could "dial these PCs back" and remove 07. I requested that they put A03 and A97 on the PCs instead. I may run over to see these clients this morning. It is only about 1 mile across town, and it'll get me away from my desk. So I can check the order of the references, according to what you've provided. I don't remember exactly all that was loaded, but I was having problems changing the priority of them...it only let me do so much. The top three, if I am reading my notes correctly, were "Visual Basic for Applications" (VBA332.dll), "Microsoft Access 8.0 Object Library" (MSACC8.olb), and "Microsoft DAO 3.51 Object Library" (DAO350.DLL), and it didn't seem that I could alter this order at all. Further down the list was "dao360.dll," and I'm wondering if this is the 3.6 that your talking about...but, I couldn't move this up any higher. This program has been a PITA to me...it was written by an "external" programmer and he didn't follow my rules. Also, he "protected" it and I keep running into road-blocks. I've been doing another job, for the past couple of months...we had a person leave and I inherited their duties, so I've had little time for things like this. So, I don't have a bunch of time to devote to this problem...if I don't fix it by lunch, I'll probably have them blow one away, put it back to scratch, and see if the problem disappears. John W. Clark Information Technology Technician Niagara County Central Data Processing >>> "William Hindman" 7/2/2008 3:38 PM >>> ...you need the Dao 3.6 but ado is installed by default iirc ...and the Dao reference must be ahead of the ado ref in the list ...and if the A97 app was converted from an earlier version you may need the Dao 3.5 compatibility dll as well ...open a code module and then tool/references ...if its grayed out you may have to use the ms tool to do a clean uninstall of O2007 first and then reinstall A97. William -------------------------------------------------- From: "John Clark" Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2008 1:28 PM To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving" Subject: [AccessD] Missing library? > I am at client PC, looking at an A97 issue. I think I am missing a > library. This was a new PC, which we had to install A97 on...came w/A07 > > I'm not sure what library I need though...DAO? The commands it is erroring > on are simple ones..."format" "mid" etc. > > I'm not trying to reinstall of A97...any guidance? > > > John W. Clark > Information Technology Technician > Niagara County > Central Data Processing > > -- > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com -------------------------------------------------------------------- mail2web.com ? Enhanced email for the mobile individual based on Microsoft? Exchange - http://link.mail2web.com/Personal/EnhancedEmail From rockysmolin at bchacc.com Thu Jul 3 09:28:54 2008 From: rockysmolin at bchacc.com (rockysmolin at bchacc.com) Date: Thu, 3 Jul 2008 10:28:54 -0400 Subject: [AccessD] Missing library? Message-ID: <380-22008743142854687@M2W026.mail2web.com> Gustav: When you switch from one version of Access to another on the machine that has them all installed, do you get that "Installing..." message and the 1-2 minute delay? I get that when switching from 03<-->07. Rocky Original Message: ----------------- From: Gustav Brock Gustav at cactus.dk Date: Thu, 03 Jul 2008 16:10:02 +0200 To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: Re: [AccessD] Missing library? Hi John DAO350.DLL and DAO360.DLL should not be referenced both. In fact I thought they even couldn't. Tell the tech kids, that all versions of Access can be installed on the same WinXP machine juxtaposed - I have from A2.0 to A2007. However, A95 will not run if you have 1 GB or more ram installed (error: Not enough memory). /gustav >>> John.Clark at niagaracounty.com 03-07-2008 15:59 >>> Alright...so A97 and A07 WILL play together? I left about a half-hour after my last post, because I had to get back to the office. But, it was on my mind last night, and I swear I must have dreamt about it, because I was pretty convinced, when I came in this morning, that it was an issue between these two versions. I remember reading a bunch of posts, complaining about similar issues. And, personally, we could NOT get my A97 to work, on my PC...my PC was "redone" by our technicians, while I was off w/my knee surgery, and I needed several versions of Access installed. They got 07 and 03 to work together, but for A97 we needed to setup a virtual drive, on my PC. Everything was fine w/this program, before a couple of our younger techs went into this department and swapped out 4 or their 5 PCs. The program still works on the one PC that wasn't touched. So, I had them in my office this morning, and I asked them, along w/their supervisor, if they could "dial these PCs back" and remove 07. I requested that they put A03 and A97 on the PCs instead. I may run over to see these clients this morning. It is only about 1 mile across town, and it'll get me away from my desk. So I can check the order of the references, according to what you've provided. I don't remember exactly all that was loaded, but I was having problems changing the priority of them...it only let me do so much. The top three, if I am reading my notes correctly, were "Visual Basic for Applications" (VBA332.dll), "Microsoft Access 8.0 Object Library" (MSACC8.olb), and "Microsoft DAO 3.51 Object Library" (DAO350.DLL), and it didn't seem that I could alter this order at all. Further down the list was "dao360.dll," and I'm wondering if this is the 3.6 that your talking about...but, I couldn't move this up any higher. This program has been a PITA to me...it was written by an "external" programmer and he didn't follow my rules. Also, he "protected" it and I keep running into road-blocks. I've been doing another job, for the past couple of months...we had a person leave and I inherited their duties, so I've had little time for things like this. So, I don't have a bunch of time to devote to this problem...if I don't fix it by lunch, I'll probably have them blow one away, put it back to scratch, and see if the problem disappears. John W. Clark Information Technology Technician Niagara County Central Data Processing -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com -------------------------------------------------------------------- myhosting.com - Premium Microsoft? Windows? and Linux web and application hosting - http://link.myhosting.com/myhosting From wdhindman at dejpolsystems.com Thu Jul 3 09:30:18 2008 From: wdhindman at dejpolsystems.com (William Hindman) Date: Thu, 3 Jul 2008 10:30:18 -0400 Subject: [AccessD] Article on stuff broken in Access 2007 References: Message-ID: <263C482A474B4EF5B76EDEDAF53ED304@jislaptopdev> ...nine! ...if its the hits that count, we're there for you :) William -------------------------------------------------- From: "Gustav Brock" Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2008 10:12 AM To: Subject: Re: [AccessD] Article on stuff broken in Access 2007 > Hi Susan > > You should have told us. Now you have five votes! > > /gustav > >>>> ssharkins at gmail.com 03-07-2008 16:01 >>> >> >> The article on Access 2007 will be very helpful with >> discussion with one of my clients. >> >> Edz. . . . > > =======I'm glad to hear that, so thank you for letting me know. The > hardest > issue for me is trying to determine what readers will find helpful. On > TechRepublic.com the only real indication is the number of page hits > (which > I can see for the MS Office and Tech of All Trades blogs, but nothing > else), > votes, and then reader comments. It's frustrating when I write, what I > think, is a terrific blog or article and then nobody seems to read it! > Believe it or not, I'd rather see a long list of controversial responses > than nothing at all. :) > > I'm going to start writing for the small to medium IT shops, so if anyone > has any ideas, I'd be glad to hear them -- although, I guess that's a tad > OT > for this list, so if anyone wants to suggest something, you might want to > do > it over on the tech list or send me a private at ssharkins at gmail dot > com. > > Susan H. > > > -- > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From John.Clark at niagaracounty.com Thu Jul 3 09:38:11 2008 From: John.Clark at niagaracounty.com (John Clark) Date: Thu, 03 Jul 2008 10:38:11 -0400 Subject: [AccessD] Missing library? In-Reply-To: <380-220087431426534@M2W044.mail2web.com> References: <380-220087431426534@M2W044.mail2web.com> Message-ID: <486CAC11.167F.006B.0@niagaracounty.com> YES! And it drives me flippin' nuts!!! I can't remember which is which, but one of the directions takes quite a bit longer...I think it is going back from 07 to 03. John W. Clark Information Technology Technician Niagara County Central Data Processing >>> "rockysmolin at bchacc.com" 7/3/2008 10:26 AM >>> John: On the machine where you have 03 and 07 working together do you get that "Installing..." message and the 1-2 minute delay while it switches over every time you switch from one to the other? Rocky Original Message: ----------------- From: John Clark John.Clark at niagaracounty.com Date: Thu, 03 Jul 2008 09:59:39 -0400 To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: Re: [AccessD] Missing library? Alright...so A97 and A07 WILL play together? I left about a half-hour after my last post, because I had to get back to the office. But, it was on my mind last night, and I swear I must have dreamt about it, because I was pretty convinced, when I came in this morning, that it was an issue between these two versions. I remember reading a bunch of posts, complaining about similar issues. And, personally, we could NOT get my A97 to work, on my PC...my PC was "redone" by our technicians, while I was off w/my knee surgery, and I needed several versions of Access installed. They got 07 and 03 to work together, but for A97 we needed to setup a virtual drive, on my PC. Everything was fine w/this program, before a couple of our younger techs went into this department and swapped out 4 or their 5 PCs. The program still works on the one PC that wasn't touched. So, I had them in my office this morning, and I asked them, along w/their supervisor, if they could "dial these PCs back" and remove 07. I requested that they put A03 and A97 on the PCs instead. I may run over to see these clients this morning. It is only about 1 mile across town, and it'll get me away from my desk. So I can check the order of the references, according to what you've provided. I don't remember exactly all that was loaded, but I was having problems changing the priority of them...it only let me do so much. The top three, if I am reading my notes correctly, were "Visual Basic for Applications" (VBA332.dll), "Microsoft Access 8.0 Object Library" (MSACC8.olb), and "Microsoft DAO 3.51 Object Library" (DAO350.DLL), and it didn't seem that I could alter this order at all. Further down the list was "dao360.dll," and I'm wondering if this is the 3.6 that your talking about...but, I couldn't move this up any higher. This program has been a PITA to me...it was written by an "external" programmer and he didn't follow my rules. Also, he "protected" it and I keep running into road-blocks. I've been doing another job, for the past couple of months...we had a person leave and I inherited their duties, so I've had little time for things like this. So, I don't have a bunch of time to devote to this problem...if I don't fix it by lunch, I'll probably have them blow one away, put it back to scratch, and see if the problem disappears. John W. Clark Information Technology Technician Niagara County Central Data Processing >>> "William Hindman" 7/2/2008 3:38 PM >>> ...you need the Dao 3.6 but ado is installed by default iirc ...and the Dao reference must be ahead of the ado ref in the list ...and if the A97 app was converted from an earlier version you may need the Dao 3.5 compatibility dll as well ...open a code module and then tool/references ...if its grayed out you may have to use the ms tool to do a clean uninstall of O2007 first and then reinstall A97. William -------------------------------------------------- From: "John Clark" Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2008 1:28 PM To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving" Subject: [AccessD] Missing library? > I am at client PC, looking at an A97 issue. I think I am missing a > library. This was a new PC, which we had to install A97 on...came w/A07 > > I'm not sure what library I need though...DAO? The commands it is erroring > on are simple ones..."format" "mid" etc. > > I'm not trying to reinstall of A97...any guidance? > > > John W. Clark > Information Technology Technician > Niagara County > Central Data Processing > > -- > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com -------------------------------------------------------------------- mail2web.com ? Enhanced email for the mobile individual based on Microsoft? Exchange - http://link.mail2web.com/Personal/EnhancedEmail -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From Gustav at cactus.dk Thu Jul 3 09:39:04 2008 From: Gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock) Date: Thu, 03 Jul 2008 16:39:04 +0200 Subject: [AccessD] Missing library? Message-ID: Hi Rocky Yes and no. I am prepared and close that box as soon as it appears. That stops the "reinstall". Access may complain later but no issues seem to arise. It's only for A2002/XP, A2003, and A2007. A97 and A2000 launch in a couple of seconds. A2.0 has its own life. /gustav >>> rockysmolin at bchacc.com 03-07-2008 16:28 >>> Gustav: When you switch from one version of Access to another on the machine that has them all installed, do you get that "Installing..." message and the 1-2 minute delay? I get that when switching from 03<-->07. Rocky From ssharkins at gmail.com Thu Jul 3 09:39:39 2008 From: ssharkins at gmail.com (Susan Harkins) Date: Thu, 3 Jul 2008 10:39:39 -0400 Subject: [AccessD] Article on stuff broken in Access 2007 References: Message-ID: <024401c8dd1a$dde96d90$2f8601c7@SusanOne> Thanks Gustav -- I think lots of readers read stuff and find it helpful (sometimes not) but without the feedback, it's hard to know. Susan H. > Hi Susan > > You should have told us. Now you have five votes! From ssharkins at gmail.com Thu Jul 3 09:40:31 2008 From: ssharkins at gmail.com (Susan Harkins) Date: Thu, 3 Jul 2008 10:40:31 -0400 Subject: [AccessD] Missing library? References: <380-22008743142854687@M2W026.mail2web.com> Message-ID: <026001c8dd1a$f0a19a70$2f8601c7@SusanOne> Drives me nuts Rocky, and we all know for me it's really just a short walk -- most irritating thing to come along in a long time. Susan H. Gustav: When you switch from one version of Access to another on the machine that has them all installed, do you get that "Installing..." message and the 1-2 minute delay? I get that when switching from 03<-->07. From rockysmolin at bchacc.com Thu Jul 3 09:52:50 2008 From: rockysmolin at bchacc.com (rockysmolin at bchacc.com) Date: Thu, 3 Jul 2008 10:52:50 -0400 Subject: [AccessD] Missing library? Message-ID: <380-22008743145250549@M2W033.mail2web.com> So you click the cancel and even though MS warns you that it won't run right it actually does? Do you know if this is the same with Word and Excel? Rocky Original Message: ----------------- From: Gustav Brock Gustav at cactus.dk Date: Thu, 03 Jul 2008 16:39:04 +0200 To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: Re: [AccessD] Missing library? Hi Rocky Yes and no. I am prepared and close that box as soon as it appears. That stops the "reinstall". Access may complain later but no issues seem to arise. It's only for A2002/XP, A2003, and A2007. A97 and A2000 launch in a couple of seconds. A2.0 has its own life. /gustav >>> rockysmolin at bchacc.com 03-07-2008 16:28 >>> Gustav: When you switch from one version of Access to another on the machine that has them all installed, do you get that "Installing..." message and the 1-2 minute delay? I get that when switching from 03<-->07. Rocky -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com -------------------------------------------------------------------- mail2web LIVE ? Free email based on Microsoft? Exchange technology - http://link.mail2web.com/LIVE From John.Clark at niagaracounty.com Thu Jul 3 09:54:06 2008 From: John.Clark at niagaracounty.com (John Clark) Date: Thu, 03 Jul 2008 10:54:06 -0400 Subject: [AccessD] Missing library? In-Reply-To: <3A75D3CB31C445578153FFC7D7AACC54@jislaptopdev> References: <486B6867.5090704@nanaimo.ark.com> <486B75BB.50707@nanaimo.ark.com><486B85F0.7000104@nanaimo.ark.com><486B8282.167F.006B.0@niagaracounty.com> <486CA30A.167F.006B.0@niagaracounty.com> <3A75D3CB31C445578153FFC7D7AACC54@jislaptopdev> Message-ID: <486CAFCC.167F.006B.0@niagaracounty.com> You? No patience? I can't see this William! ;o) Well, I'll tell ya what...I'm nobody to talk on this either...which is why, the more I think about it, I'm just going to have them dial it back and put A97 and A03 on the machine. I will have to upgrade the program sooner or later, but as you say I've to convert to full A97, I might as well convert it up to 03 or 07 even. This will have to be converted, but I just simply do not have the time for it right now. I have people waiting for me, at our nursing dept, right now, for two installs that are pending...one has been put off 'til Tuesday, but the other should be happening right now. I also see I have a lineup of email messages requesting changes to the web site, and I HAVE to be out of here by no later than 3:00, so that I can pickup my daughter from softball camp, which is a little drive away...that too was a surprise, because a woman from our public works dept. was driving her home all week, but couldn't do it today...no biggie, I'd like to get up there anyhow. John W. Clark Information Technology Technician Niagara County Central Data Processing >>> "William Hindman" 7/3/2008 10:23 AM >>> ...they will play if the installation order is right and you have the patience of job ...I've moved to having each in a separate virtual pc install instead ...in case you've not noticed, patience is not one of my virtues ...with ms giving away free copies of xp on a vhd, it just doesn't make sense to me to try and mix them all on the same platform any longer. ...btw, iirc the presence of dao 3.51 means you have unconverted A2/A95 code in the mdb and it will not play further up the line ...if you intend to keep this app alive, you need to do a full conversion in A97 and update all that old code before upgrading further ...imnsho of course. William -------------------------------------------------- From: "John Clark" Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2008 9:59 AM To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving" Subject: Re: [AccessD] Missing library? > Alright...so A97 and A07 WILL play together? > > I left about a half-hour after my last post, because I had to get back to > the office. But, it was on my mind last night, and I swear I must have > dreamt about it, because I was pretty convinced, when I came in this > morning, that it was an issue between these two versions. I remember > reading a bunch of posts, complaining about similar issues. And, > personally, we could NOT get my A97 to work, on my PC...my PC was "redone" > by our technicians, while I was off w/my knee surgery, and I needed > several versions of Access installed. They got 07 and 03 to work together, > but for A97 we needed to setup a virtual drive, on my PC. > > Everything was fine w/this program, before a couple of our younger techs > went into this department and swapped out 4 or their 5 PCs. The program > still works on the one PC that wasn't touched. So, I had them in my office > this morning, and I asked them, along w/their supervisor, if they could > "dial these PCs back" and remove 07. I requested that they put A03 and A97 > on the PCs instead. > > I may run over to see these clients this morning. It is only about 1 mile > across town, and it'll get me away from my desk. So I can check the order > of the references, according to what you've provided. I don't remember > exactly all that was loaded, but I was having problems changing the > priority of them...it only let me do so much. > > The top three, if I am reading my notes correctly, were "Visual Basic for > Applications" (VBA332.dll), "Microsoft Access 8.0 Object Library" > (MSACC8.olb), and "Microsoft DAO 3.51 Object Library" (DAO350.DLL), and it > didn't seem that I could alter this order at all. Further down the list > was "dao360.dll," and I'm wondering if this is the 3.6 that your talking > about...but, I couldn't move this up any higher. > > This program has been a PITA to me...it was written by an "external" > programmer and he didn't follow my rules. Also, he "protected" it and I > keep running into road-blocks. > > I've been doing another job, for the past couple of months...we had a > person leave and I inherited their duties, so I've had little time for > things like this. So, I don't have a bunch of time to devote to this > problem...if I don't fix it by lunch, I'll probably have them blow one > away, put it back to scratch, and see if the problem disappears. > > John W. Clark > Information Technology Technician > Niagara County > Central Data Processing > > > >>>> "William Hindman" 7/2/2008 3:38 PM >>> > ...you need the Dao 3.6 but ado is installed by default iirc ...and the > Dao > reference must be ahead of the ado ref in the list ...and if the A97 app > was > converted from an earlier version you may need the Dao 3.5 compatibility > dll > as well ...open a code module and then tool/references ...if its grayed > out > you may have to use the ms tool to do a clean uninstall of O2007 first and > then reinstall A97. > > William > > -------------------------------------------------- > From: "John Clark" > Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2008 1:28 PM > To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving" > > Subject: [AccessD] Missing library? > >> I am at client PC, looking at an A97 issue. I think I am missing a >> library. This was a new PC, which we had to install A97 on...came w/A07 >> >> I'm not sure what library I need though...DAO? The commands it is >> erroring >> on are simple ones..."format" "mid" etc. >> >> I'm not trying to reinstall of A97...any guidance? >> >> >> John W. Clark >> Information Technology Technician >> Niagara County >> Central Data Processing >> >> -- >> AccessD mailing list >> AccessD at databaseadvisors.com >> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd >> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > > -- > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > -- > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From rockysmolin at bchacc.com Thu Jul 3 09:54:33 2008 From: rockysmolin at bchacc.com (rockysmolin at bchacc.com) Date: Thu, 3 Jul 2008 10:54:33 -0400 Subject: [AccessD] Missing library? Message-ID: <380-22008743145433377@M2W011.mail2web.com> Well, Gustav hits the cancel and ignores the warning. Does that work for you? I'm out of town at the moment and don't have a machine to test on but I'm curious. Rocky Original Message: ----------------- From: John Clark John.Clark at niagaracounty.com Date: Thu, 03 Jul 2008 10:38:11 -0400 To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: Re: [AccessD] Missing library? YES! And it drives me flippin' nuts!!! I can't remember which is which, but one of the directions takes quite a bit longer...I think it is going back from 07 to 03. John W. Clark Information Technology Technician Niagara County Central Data Processing >>> "rockysmolin at bchacc.com" 7/3/2008 10:26 AM >>> John: On the machine where you have 03 and 07 working together do you get that "Installing..." message and the 1-2 minute delay while it switches over every time you switch from one to the other? Rocky Original Message: ----------------- From: John Clark John.Clark at niagaracounty.com Date: Thu, 03 Jul 2008 09:59:39 -0400 To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: Re: [AccessD] Missing library? Alright...so A97 and A07 WILL play together? I left about a half-hour after my last post, because I had to get back to the office. But, it was on my mind last night, and I swear I must have dreamt about it, because I was pretty convinced, when I came in this morning, that it was an issue between these two versions. I remember reading a bunch of posts, complaining about similar issues. And, personally, we could NOT get my A97 to work, on my PC...my PC was "redone" by our technicians, while I was off w/my knee surgery, and I needed several versions of Access installed. They got 07 and 03 to work together, but for A97 we needed to setup a virtual drive, on my PC. Everything was fine w/this program, before a couple of our younger techs went into this department and swapped out 4 or their 5 PCs. The program still works on the one PC that wasn't touched. So, I had them in my office this morning, and I asked them, along w/their supervisor, if they could "dial these PCs back" and remove 07. I requested that they put A03 and A97 on the PCs instead. I may run over to see these clients this morning. It is only about 1 mile across town, and it'll get me away from my desk. So I can check the order of the references, according to what you've provided. I don't remember exactly all that was loaded, but I was having problems changing the priority of them...it only let me do so much. The top three, if I am reading my notes correctly, were "Visual Basic for Applications" (VBA332.dll), "Microsoft Access 8.0 Object Library" (MSACC8.olb), and "Microsoft DAO 3.51 Object Library" (DAO350.DLL), and it didn't seem that I could alter this order at all. Further down the list was "dao360.dll," and I'm wondering if this is the 3.6 that your talking about...but, I couldn't move this up any higher. This program has been a PITA to me...it was written by an "external" programmer and he didn't follow my rules. Also, he "protected" it and I keep running into road-blocks. I've been doing another job, for the past couple of months...we had a person leave and I inherited their duties, so I've had little time for things like this. So, I don't have a bunch of time to devote to this problem...if I don't fix it by lunch, I'll probably have them blow one away, put it back to scratch, and see if the problem disappears. John W. Clark Information Technology Technician Niagara County Central Data Processing >>> "William Hindman" 7/2/2008 3:38 PM >>> ...you need the Dao 3.6 but ado is installed by default iirc ...and the Dao reference must be ahead of the ado ref in the list ...and if the A97 app was converted from an earlier version you may need the Dao 3.5 compatibility dll as well ...open a code module and then tool/references ...if its grayed out you may have to use the ms tool to do a clean uninstall of O2007 first and then reinstall A97. William -------------------------------------------------- From: "John Clark" Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2008 1:28 PM To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving" Subject: [AccessD] Missing library? > I am at client PC, looking at an A97 issue. I think I am missing a > library. This was a new PC, which we had to install A97 on...came w/A07 > > I'm not sure what library I need though...DAO? The commands it is erroring > on are simple ones..."format" "mid" etc. > > I'm not trying to reinstall of A97...any guidance? > > > John W. Clark > Information Technology Technician > Niagara County > Central Data Processing > > -- > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com -------------------------------------------------------------------- mail2web.com ??? Enhanced email for the mobile individual based on Microsoft?? 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R Original Message: ----------------- From: Susan Harkins ssharkins at gmail.com Date: Thu, 3 Jul 2008 10:40:31 -0400 To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: Re: [AccessD] Missing library? Drives me nuts Rocky, and we all know for me it's really just a short walk -- most irritating thing to come along in a long time. Susan H. Gustav: When you switch from one version of Access to another on the machine that has them all installed, do you get that "Installing..." message and the 1-2 minute delay? I get that when switching from 03<-->07. -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com -------------------------------------------------------------------- myhosting.com - Premium Microsoft? Windows? and Linux web and application hosting - http://link.myhosting.com/myhosting From ssharkins at gmail.com Thu Jul 3 09:54:28 2008 From: ssharkins at gmail.com (Susan Harkins) Date: Thu, 3 Jul 2008 10:54:28 -0400 Subject: [AccessD] Missing library? References: Message-ID: <028301c8dd1d$6b91da90$2f8601c7@SusanOne> > > Yes and no. I am prepared and close that box as soon as it appears. That > stops the "reinstall". Access may complain later but no issues seem to > arise. > =========It often hangs up my system for a few minutes and I can't do a thing but wait. Susan H. From jimdettman at verizon.net Thu Jul 3 10:01:35 2008 From: jimdettman at verizon.net (Jim Dettman) Date: Thu, 03 Jul 2008 11:01:35 -0400 Subject: [AccessD] Missing library? In-Reply-To: <380-22008743145433377@M2W011.mail2web.com> References: <380-22008743145433377@M2W011.mail2web.com> Message-ID: <003301c8dd1d$b157f1e0$8abea8c0@XPS> Rocky, I always do the same and haven't bumped into a problem yet. Jim. -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of rockysmolin at bchacc.com Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2008 10:55 AM To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: Re: [AccessD] Missing library? Well, Gustav hits the cancel and ignores the warning. Does that work for you? I'm out of town at the moment and don't have a machine to test on but I'm curious. Rocky Original Message: ----------------- From: John Clark John.Clark at niagaracounty.com Date: Thu, 03 Jul 2008 10:38:11 -0400 To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: Re: [AccessD] Missing library? YES! And it drives me flippin' nuts!!! I can't remember which is which, but one of the directions takes quite a bit longer...I think it is going back from 07 to 03. John W. Clark Information Technology Technician Niagara County Central Data Processing >>> "rockysmolin at bchacc.com" 7/3/2008 10:26 AM >>> John: On the machine where you have 03 and 07 working together do you get that "Installing..." message and the 1-2 minute delay while it switches over every time you switch from one to the other? Rocky Original Message: ----------------- From: John Clark John.Clark at niagaracounty.com Date: Thu, 03 Jul 2008 09:59:39 -0400 To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: Re: [AccessD] Missing library? Alright...so A97 and A07 WILL play together? I left about a half-hour after my last post, because I had to get back to the office. But, it was on my mind last night, and I swear I must have dreamt about it, because I was pretty convinced, when I came in this morning, that it was an issue between these two versions. I remember reading a bunch of posts, complaining about similar issues. And, personally, we could NOT get my A97 to work, on my PC...my PC was "redone" by our technicians, while I was off w/my knee surgery, and I needed several versions of Access installed. They got 07 and 03 to work together, but for A97 we needed to setup a virtual drive, on my PC. Everything was fine w/this program, before a couple of our younger techs went into this department and swapped out 4 or their 5 PCs. The program still works on the one PC that wasn't touched. So, I had them in my office this morning, and I asked them, along w/their supervisor, if they could "dial these PCs back" and remove 07. I requested that they put A03 and A97 on the PCs instead. I may run over to see these clients this morning. It is only about 1 mile across town, and it'll get me away from my desk. So I can check the order of the references, according to what you've provided. I don't remember exactly all that was loaded, but I was having problems changing the priority of them...it only let me do so much. The top three, if I am reading my notes correctly, were "Visual Basic for Applications" (VBA332.dll), "Microsoft Access 8.0 Object Library" (MSACC8.olb), and "Microsoft DAO 3.51 Object Library" (DAO350.DLL), and it didn't seem that I could alter this order at all. Further down the list was "dao360.dll," and I'm wondering if this is the 3.6 that your talking about...but, I couldn't move this up any higher. This program has been a PITA to me...it was written by an "external" programmer and he didn't follow my rules. Also, he "protected" it and I keep running into road-blocks. I've been doing another job, for the past couple of months...we had a person leave and I inherited their duties, so I've had little time for things like this. So, I don't have a bunch of time to devote to this problem...if I don't fix it by lunch, I'll probably have them blow one away, put it back to scratch, and see if the problem disappears. John W. Clark Information Technology Technician Niagara County Central Data Processing >>> "William Hindman" 7/2/2008 3:38 PM >>> ...you need the Dao 3.6 but ado is installed by default iirc ...and the Dao reference must be ahead of the ado ref in the list ...and if the A97 app was converted from an earlier version you may need the Dao 3.5 compatibility dll as well ...open a code module and then tool/references ...if its grayed out you may have to use the ms tool to do a clean uninstall of O2007 first and then reinstall A97. William -------------------------------------------------- From: "John Clark" Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2008 1:28 PM To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving" Subject: [AccessD] Missing library? > I am at client PC, looking at an A97 issue. I think I am missing a > library. This was a new PC, which we had to install A97 on...came w/A07 > > I'm not sure what library I need though...DAO? The commands it is erroring > on are simple ones..."format" "mid" etc. > > I'm not trying to reinstall of A97...any guidance? > > > John W. Clark > Information Technology Technician > Niagara County > Central Data Processing > > -- > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com -------------------------------------------------------------------- mail2web.com ??? Enhanced email for the mobile individual based on Microsoft?? Exchange - http://link.mail2web.com/Personal/EnhancedEmail -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com -------------------------------------------------------------------- myhosting.com - Premium Microsoft? Windows? and Linux web and application hosting - http://link.myhosting.com/myhosting -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From krosenstiel at comcast.net Thu Jul 3 10:06:10 2008 From: krosenstiel at comcast.net (krosenstiel at comcast.net) Date: Thu, 03 Jul 2008 15:06:10 +0000 Subject: [AccessD] Missing library? Message-ID: <070320081506.28620.486CEAE2000C027200006FCC2212020784040A079B9C020A9C019D05@comcast.net> Hi Rocky, I got your check -- many thanks! It was way more than I expected. It is live since last Saturday. Enjoy your camp. -- Karen Rosenstiel Seattle WA USA From cfoust at infostatsystems.com Thu Jul 3 10:06:27 2008 From: cfoust at infostatsystems.com (Charlotte Foust) Date: Thu, 3 Jul 2008 08:06:27 -0700 Subject: [AccessD] Article on stuff broken in Access 2007 In-Reply-To: <013301c8dd0f$a2b92630$2f8601c7@SusanOne> References: <013301c8dd0f$a2b92630$2f8601c7@SusanOne> Message-ID: Does anyone in this list actually USE A2007? Charlotte Foust -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Susan Harkins Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2008 6:21 AM To: AccessD at databaseadvisors.com Subject: [AccessD] Article on stuff broken in Access 2007 I wrote this for TechRepublic.com and since it's getting a little feedback, thought some of you might want to follow the conversations. I've already seen at least one issue I didn't know about in the responses. Susan H. -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From Gustav at cactus.dk Thu Jul 3 10:07:21 2008 From: Gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock) Date: Thu, 03 Jul 2008 17:07:21 +0200 Subject: [AccessD] Missing library? Message-ID: Hi Rocky It tells that the install failed ... and then it launches anyway. The biggie is the switch to A2007 - several minutes if you don't cancel it. Same issue for Word and Excel but code to disable the reinstall for these exist on the net - however, for Access it is not that easy. No cure yet, and MS seems to not bother at all. /gustav >>> rockysmolin at bchacc.com 03-07-2008 16:52 >>> So you click the cancel and even though MS warns you that it won't run right it actually does? Do you know if this is the same with Word and Excel? Rocky Original Message: ----------------- From: Gustav Brock Gustav at cactus.dk Date: Thu, 03 Jul 2008 16:39:04 +0200 To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: Re: [AccessD] Missing library? Hi Rocky Yes and no. I am prepared and close that box as soon as it appears. That stops the "reinstall". Access may complain later but no issues seem to arise. It's only for A2002/XP, A2003, and A2007. A97 and A2000 launch in a couple of seconds. A2.0 has its own life. /gustav >>> rockysmolin at bchacc.com 03-07-2008 16:28 >>> Gustav: When you switch from one version of Access to another on the machine that has them all installed, do you get that "Installing..." message and the 1-2 minute delay? I get that when switching from 03<-->07. Rocky From ssharkins at gmail.com Thu Jul 3 10:21:33 2008 From: ssharkins at gmail.com (Susan Harkins) Date: Thu, 3 Jul 2008 11:21:33 -0400 Subject: [AccessD] Missing library? References: <380-22008743145732773@M2W034.mail2web.com> Message-ID: <02b201c8dd20$98ab8a50$2f8601c7@SusanOne> Yes, just sometimes it takes forever to make up its mind what it's going to do and I can't do anything until it remembers itself. Susan H. And if you hit cancel, does it work anyway? From ssharkins at gmail.com Thu Jul 3 10:22:22 2008 From: ssharkins at gmail.com (Susan Harkins) Date: Thu, 3 Jul 2008 11:22:22 -0400 Subject: [AccessD] Article on stuff broken in Access 2007 References: <013301c8dd0f$a2b92630$2f8601c7@SusanOne> Message-ID: <02bf01c8dd20$ab689930$2f8601c7@SusanOne> Only for articles Charlotte. I'm still writing for 03 but including 07 instructions, as needed. Susan H. > Does anyone in this list actually USE A2007? > From ssharkins at gmail.com Thu Jul 3 10:41:29 2008 From: ssharkins at gmail.com (Susan Harkins) Date: Thu, 3 Jul 2008 11:41:29 -0400 Subject: [AccessD] Missing library? References: <380-22008743145433377@M2W011.mail2web.com> Message-ID: <02d001c8dd23$44fcc830$2f8601c7@SusanOne> Well, Gustav hits the cancel and ignores the warning. Does that work for you? I'm out of town at the moment and don't have a machine to test on but I'm curious. ======Sometimes, clicking Cancel works, sometimes it doesn't. Clicking the Close button seems to be more consistent in stopping it in its tracks, but still not always. About half the time, the system just locks up for a few minutes. Susan H. From fuller.artful at gmail.com Thu Jul 3 11:05:54 2008 From: fuller.artful at gmail.com (Arthur Fuller) Date: Thu, 3 Jul 2008 13:05:54 -0300 Subject: [AccessD] Article on stuff broken in Access 2007 In-Reply-To: References: <013301c8dd0f$a2b92630$2f8601c7@SusanOne> Message-ID: <29f585dd0807030905v63ed38d9g61d2f0fd137a98d0@mail.gmail.com> I do. And I think that it has lots of cool new features, although I admit that it sometimes takes me a long time to find commands which in older versions I could readily find. (An example would be "Backup database". Who would have thought to click on the big button and then select Manage? But now that I know where that command lives, I'm growing used to it. One thing that I still haven't figured out: you can create a form styled "split form" I think it's called, and you get a sort of form-subform thing where one half is a single-row form and the other is a datasheet-style form. But it keeps creating it so that the datasheet is at the bottom when the logical placement (IMO) would be datasheet at the top and single-form below. I have tried dozens of things to make it do what I want and I cannot find it. Arthur On 7/3/08, Charlotte Foust wrote: > > Does anyone in this list actually USE A2007? > From dbdoug at gmail.com Thu Jul 3 12:19:10 2008 From: dbdoug at gmail.com (Doug Steele) Date: Thu, 3 Jul 2008 10:19:10 -0700 Subject: [AccessD] Article on stuff broken in Access 2007 In-Reply-To: References: <013301c8dd0f$a2b92630$2f8601c7@SusanOne> Message-ID: <4dd71a0c0807031019j26a51facm744baa48b9c7887d@mail.gmail.com> I am being forced to work into Access 2007 by two of my clients. One is a branch of a large corporation which has switched completely to Office 2007 as company policy. At the moment 'my' branch is running several Access 2000 BE/FE databases under Access 2007. There have been minor issues, but no significant problems. We will convert over to full Access 2007 databases gradually. The other client is running a network with mixed Access 2003/Access 2007; the owner is a 'bleeding edge technology' fan who is keen to convert fully to 2007 and is also pressuring me to try using SQL Server Express as the BE. We have had some significant problems (like failed updates and bizarre fatal errors) on the machines running Access 2007, but unfortunately most problems have been intermittent and not reproducible on my Access 2007 development system (running in a virtual machine). FWIW, it doesn't seem to matter whether the Access 2007 machines run the FE as an Access 2003 .mdb or a converted Access 2007 .accdb. Doug Steele On Thu, Jul 3, 2008 at 8:06 AM, Charlotte Foust wrote: > Does anyone in this list actually USE A2007? > > Charlotte Foust > > From ssharkins at gmail.com Thu Jul 3 12:55:26 2008 From: ssharkins at gmail.com (Susan Harkins) Date: Thu, 3 Jul 2008 13:55:26 -0400 Subject: [AccessD] Article on stuff broken in Access 2007 References: <013301c8dd0f$a2b92630$2f8601c7@SusanOne> <29f585dd0807030905v63ed38d9g61d2f0fd137a98d0@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <032401c8dd36$20464df0$2f8601c7@SusanOne> An example would be "Backup database". Who > would have thought to click on the big button and then select Manage? But > now that I know where that command lives, I'm growing used to it. =======Arthur, if I can't find something on one of the tabs quickly enough, I go straight to the Office button. And, if the command isn't available, you can add it to the Quick Access toolbar, easily enough. Susan H. From mwp.reid at qub.ac.uk Thu Jul 3 13:38:43 2008 From: mwp.reid at qub.ac.uk (Martin W Reid) Date: Thu, 3 Jul 2008 19:38:43 +0100 Subject: [AccessD] Access 2007 Split Form For Arthur Message-ID: Arthur There is a form format property called Split Form Orientation which you can use to change the layout. Just select Datasheet on top. Martin Martin WP Reid Information Services Queen's University Riddel Hall 185 Stranmillis Road Belfast BT9 5EE Tel : 02890974465 Email : mwp.reid at qub.ac.uk From fuller.artful at gmail.com Thu Jul 3 13:55:53 2008 From: fuller.artful at gmail.com (Arthur Fuller) Date: Thu, 3 Jul 2008 15:55:53 -0300 Subject: [AccessD] Access 2007 Split Form For Arthur In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <29f585dd0807031155i3bc6f46fpe1c65ec9ad77291e@mail.gmail.com> Martin, Thanks. I'll give that a try when I get home from work. A. On 7/3/08, Martin W Reid wrote: > > Arthur > > There is a form format property called Split Form Orientation which you > can use to change the layout. Just select Datasheet on top. > > Martin > From rockysmolin at bchacc.com Thu Jul 3 14:21:02 2008 From: rockysmolin at bchacc.com (rockysmolin at bchacc.com) Date: Thu, 3 Jul 2008 15:21:02 -0400 Subject: [AccessD] Missing library? Message-ID: <380-2200874319212871@M2W021.mail2web.com> Well, I figured there';s going to be some twekas and stuff over time. Edits on the copy for sure when we get to them next week. Maybe a few more screen shots and projects. So, over time, I'll use it up. Rocky Original Message: ----------------- From: krosenstiel at comcast.net Date: Thu, 03 Jul 2008 15:06:10 +0000 To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: Re: [AccessD] Missing library? Hi Rocky, I got your check -- many thanks! It was way more than I expected. It is live since last Saturday. Enjoy your camp. -- Karen Rosenstiel Seattle WA USA -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com -------------------------------------------------------------------- mail2web - Check your email from the web at http://link.mail2web.com/mail2web From edzedz at comcast.net Thu Jul 3 15:27:32 2008 From: edzedz at comcast.net (Edward S Zuris) Date: Thu, 3 Jul 2008 13:27:32 -0700 Subject: [AccessD] Article on stuff broken in Access 2007 In-Reply-To: <4dd71a0c0807031019j26a51facm744baa48b9c7887d@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <017f01c8dd4b$39876780$66dea8c0@dudley1> FWIW, For What It's Worth. Someone in sales, somewhere, is talking to clients into upgrading to Access 2007. In one way it is a pain, unless a client has a budget, then it might mean more billable hours. -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Doug Steele Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2008 10:19 AM To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving Subject: Re: [AccessD] Article on stuff broken in Access 2007 I am being forced to work into Access 2007 by two of my clients. One is a branch of a large corporation which has switched completely to Office 2007 as company policy. At the moment 'my' branch is running several Access 2000 BE/FE databases under Access 2007. There have been minor issues, but no significant problems. We will convert over to full Access 2007 databases gradually. The other client is running a network with mixed Access 2003/Access 2007; the owner is a 'bleeding edge technology' fan who is keen to convert fully to 2007 and is also pressuring me to try using SQL Server Express as the BE. We have had some significant problems (like failed updates and bizarre fatal errors) on the machines running Access 2007, but unfortunately most problems have been intermittent and not reproducible on my Access 2007 development system (running in a virtual machine). FWIW, it doesn't seem to matter whether the Access 2007 machines run the FE as an Access 2003 .mdb or a converted Access 2007 .accdb. Doug Steele On Thu, Jul 3, 2008 at 8:06 AM, Charlotte Foust wrote: > Does anyone in this list actually USE A2007? > > Charlotte Foust > > -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From hadyn at dataconcepts.co.nz Thu Jul 3 15:43:19 2008 From: hadyn at dataconcepts.co.nz (Hadyn Morgan) Date: Fri, 4 Jul 2008 08:43:19 +1200 Subject: [AccessD] SQL Server Express WAS Article on stuff broken in Access 2007 In-Reply-To: <4dd71a0c0807031019j26a51facm744baa48b9c7887d@mail.gmail.com> References: <013301c8dd0f$a2b92630$2f8601c7@SusanOne> <4dd71a0c0807031019j26a51facm744baa48b9c7887d@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <001201c8dd4d$6d573070$1600000a@elitehdm> I have to say SQL Server 2005 Express is awesome. I am working on converting a second client to it who use largish tables with multiple users and the improvements using pass-through queries and stored procedures have brought the 2003 frontend back up to the speed it was before they tripled their production. Just as an aside, I use SSMS Express for the maintenance and general testing and VS2008 to debug SP's. What other tools should I be using? I have had a look at the Red Gate software and will probably invest in that but I wondered what other tools people found indespensible. Cheers Hadyn -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Doug Steele Sent: Friday, 4 July 2008 5:19 a.m. To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving Subject: Re: [AccessD] Article on stuff broken in Access 2007 I am being forced to work into Access 2007 by two of my clients. One is a branch of a large corporation which has switched completely to Office 2007 as company policy. At the moment 'my' branch is running several Access 2000 BE/FE databases under Access 2007. There have been minor issues, but no significant problems. We will convert over to full Access 2007 databases gradually. The other client is running a network with mixed Access 2003/Access 2007; the owner is a 'bleeding edge technology' fan who is keen to convert fully to 2007 and is also pressuring me to try using SQL Server Express as the BE. We have had some significant problems (like failed updates and bizarre fatal errors) on the machines running Access 2007, but unfortunately most problems have been intermittent and not reproducible on my Access 2007 development system (running in a virtual machine). FWIW, it doesn't seem to matter whether the Access 2007 machines run the FE as an Access 2003 .mdb or a converted Access 2007 .accdb. Doug Steele On Thu, Jul 3, 2008 at 8:06 AM, Charlotte Foust wrote: > Does anyone in this list actually USE A2007? > > Charlotte Foust > > -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From fuller.artful at gmail.com Thu Jul 3 18:16:55 2008 From: fuller.artful at gmail.com (Arthur Fuller) Date: Thu, 3 Jul 2008 20:16:55 -0300 Subject: [AccessD] SQL Server Express WAS Article on stuff broken in Access 2007 In-Reply-To: <001201c8dd4d$6d573070$1600000a@elitehdm> References: <013301c8dd0f$a2b92630$2f8601c7@SusanOne> <4dd71a0c0807031019j26a51facm744baa48b9c7887d@mail.gmail.com> <001201c8dd4d$6d573070$1600000a@elitehdm> Message-ID: <29f585dd0807031616q14c788ue4d8df460ee9a45d@mail.gmail.com> I'm a firm believer in the Red Gate ToolBelt and have just persuaded my new employer to buy it. That's IIRC the fourth client I've persuaded. I do a couple of walkthroughs on my notebook with my own licensed copies and they say "Wow". SQL Backup is a case in point. It's twice as fast as the built-in and the file size is one third. I even tried to winRAR one of the backups and only gained 500KB on a 6GB backup (MS was 18GB). Data Generator is an awesome tool, too, if you need to do some scalability testing. Was just using Data Compare and SQL Compare today, with excellent results. Arthur On Thu, Jul 3, 2008 at 5:43 PM, Hadyn Morgan wrote: > I have to say SQL Server 2005 Express is awesome. I am working on > converting a second client to it who use largish tables with multiple users > and the improvements using pass-through queries and stored procedures have > brought the 2003 frontend back up to the speed it was before they tripled > their production. > > Just as an aside, I use SSMS Express for the maintenance and general > testing > and VS2008 to debug SP's. What other tools should I be using? I have had > a > look at the Red Gate software and will probably invest in that but I > wondered what other tools people found indespensible. > > From Darryl.Collins at coles.com.au Thu Jul 3 18:21:47 2008 From: Darryl.Collins at coles.com.au (Darryl Collins) Date: Fri, 4 Jul 2008 09:21:47 +1000 Subject: [AccessD] SQL Server Express WAS Article on stuff broken inAccess 2007 In-Reply-To: <001201c8dd4d$6d573070$1600000a@elitehdm> Message-ID: <57E6E6CA42105A48B977303A2CDC2720076BF12CBC@WPEXCH22.retail.ad.cmltd.net.au> I have started working in SQL Server 2000 (enterprise version) and whilst I only have limited rights (The DBA's set it all up etc and they have standard templates and scripts to start with) I am really impressed with it - it is a seriously good setup compared to what I have worked with in the past. I have downloaded the express version at home, but it is finding the time to play with it that is tricky (especially since I have a 9 month old son!). Darryl. -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Hadyn Morgan Sent: Friday, 4 July 2008 6:43 AM To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' Subject: Re: [AccessD] SQL Server Express WAS Article on stuff broken inAccess 2007 I have to say SQL Server 2005 Express is awesome. I am working on converting a second client to it who use largish tables with multiple users and the improvements using pass-through queries and stored procedures have brought the 2003 frontend back up to the speed it was before they tripled their production. Just as an aside, I use SSMS Express for the maintenance and general testing and VS2008 to debug SP's. What other tools should I be using? I have had a look at the Red Gate software and will probably invest in that but I wondered what other tools people found indespensible. Cheers Hadyn -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Doug Steele Sent: Friday, 4 July 2008 5:19 a.m. To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving Subject: Re: [AccessD] Article on stuff broken in Access 2007 I am being forced to work into Access 2007 by two of my clients. One is a branch of a large corporation which has switched completely to Office 2007 as company policy. At the moment 'my' branch is running several Access 2000 BE/FE databases under Access 2007. There have been minor issues, but no significant problems. We will convert over to full Access 2007 databases gradually. The other client is running a network with mixed Access 2003/Access 2007; the owner is a 'bleeding edge technology' fan who is keen to convert fully to 2007 and is also pressuring me to try using SQL Server Express as the BE. We have had some significant problems (like failed updates and bizarre fatal errors) on the machines running Access 2007, but unfortunately most problems have been intermittent and not reproducible on my Access 2007 development system (running in a virtual machine). FWIW, it doesn't seem to matter whether the Access 2007 machines run the FE as an Access 2003 .mdb or a converted Access 2007 .accdb. Doug Steele On Thu, Jul 3, 2008 at 8:06 AM, Charlotte Foust wrote: > Does anyone in this list actually USE A2007? > > Charlotte Foust > > -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com This email and any attachments may contain privileged and confidential information and are intended for the named addressee only. If you have received this e-mail in error, please notify the sender and delete this e-mail immediately. Any confidentiality, privilege or copyright is not waived or lost because this e-mail has been sent to you in error. It is your responsibility to check this e-mail and any attachments for viruses. No warranty is made that this material is free from computer virus or any other defect or error. Any loss/damage incurred by using this material is not the sender's responsibility. The sender's entire liability will be limited to resupplying the material. From Darryl.Collins at coles.com.au Thu Jul 3 18:43:01 2008 From: Darryl.Collins at coles.com.au (Darryl Collins) Date: Fri, 4 Jul 2008 09:43:01 +1000 Subject: [AccessD] OT: Tech Republic (was Article on stuff broken in Access 2007) In-Reply-To: <013301c8dd0f$a2b92630$2f8601c7@SusanOne> Message-ID: <57E6E6CA42105A48B977303A2CDC2720076BF12CBE@WPEXCH22.retail.ad.cmltd.net.au> Hi guys and gals. Apart from being able to vote etc, is there any great advantage (or maybe more importantly, disadvantage) to signing up for Tech - Republic. Right now I feel I have a good balance between email lists for help (and helping) vs the amount to time and effort it takes to go thru all the postings. I really don't fancy joining anything else at this stage if there is not much to gain, or worse, an increase in babble to the email in box. your thoughts? -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Susan Harkins Sent: Thursday, 3 July 2008 11:21 PM To: AccessD at databaseadvisors.com Subject: [AccessD] Article on stuff broken in Access 2007 I wrote this for TechRepublic.com and since it's getting a little feedback, thought some of you might want to follow the conversations. I've already seen at least one issue I didn't know about in the responses. Susan H. -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com This email and any attachments may contain privileged and confidential information and are intended for the named addressee only. If you have received this e-mail in error, please notify the sender and delete this e-mail immediately. Any confidentiality, privilege or copyright is not waived or lost because this e-mail has been sent to you in error. It is your responsibility to check this e-mail and any attachments for viruses. No warranty is made that this material is free from computer virus or any other defect or error. Any loss/damage incurred by using this material is not the sender's responsibility. The sender's entire liability will be limited to resupplying the material. From ssharkins at gmail.com Thu Jul 3 19:09:43 2008 From: ssharkins at gmail.com (Susan Harkins) Date: Thu, 3 Jul 2008 20:09:43 -0400 Subject: [AccessD] OT: Tech Republic (was Article on stuff broken in Access2007) References: <57E6E6CA42105A48B977303A2CDC2720076BF12CBE@WPEXCH22.retail.ad.cmltd.net.au> Message-ID: <047b01c8dd6a$47801f70$2f8601c7@SusanOne> Well, I'd like to think that I write useful articles and blog entries. Having said that, I realize that everything I write has a limited audience. TechRepublic tackles a wide range of topics, from user type solutions to high end IT and developer issues. But, I'll admit -- when I need a specific solution, I come here. You can't get the same kind of quick turn around at TR that we get here. In fact, you can post a question and not get a single response. On the other hand, I learn something new there almost every day -- but the catch is, it isn't always something I can put to immediate use. Susan H. > > > Hi guys and gals. > > Apart from being able to vote etc, is there any great advantage (or maybe > more importantly, disadvantage) to signing up for Tech - Republic. Right > now I feel I have a good balance between email lists for help (and > helping) vs the amount to time and effort it takes to go thru all the > postings. > > I really don't fancy joining anything else at this stage if there is not > much to gain, or worse, an increase in babble to the email in box. > > your thoughts? > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Susan Harkins > Sent: Thursday, 3 July 2008 11:21 PM > To: AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > Subject: [AccessD] Article on stuff broken in Access 2007 > > > > > I wrote this for TechRepublic.com and since it's getting a little > feedback, > thought some of you might want to follow the conversations. I've already > seen at least one issue I didn't know about in the responses. > > Susan H. > > -- > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > This email and any attachments may contain privileged and confidential > information and are intended for the named addressee only. If you have > received this e-mail in error, please notify the sender and delete this > e-mail immediately. Any confidentiality, privilege or copyright is not > waived or lost because this e-mail has been sent to you in error. It is > your responsibility to check this e-mail and any attachments for viruses. > No warranty is made that this material is free from computer virus or any > other defect or error. Any loss/damage incurred by using this material is > not the sender's responsibility. The sender's entire liability will be > limited to resupplying the material. > > -- > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From Darryl.Collins at coles.com.au Thu Jul 3 19:21:05 2008 From: Darryl.Collins at coles.com.au (Darryl Collins) Date: Fri, 4 Jul 2008 10:21:05 +1000 Subject: [AccessD] OT: Tech Republic (was Article on stuff broken inAccess2007) In-Reply-To: <047b01c8dd6a$47801f70$2f8601c7@SusanOne> Message-ID: <57E6E6CA42105A48B977303A2CDC2720076BF12CC2@WPEXCH22.retail.ad.cmltd.net.au> ok... Thanks Susan, I like to read stuff there (especially from you folks) and I do learn lots, but I just cant see much advantage to actually having to sign up. Maybe I am getting old and cranky and cannot be bothered being subbed to too many things. I just feel that tech republic would be one too many - nothing against TR, I think one more of anything would be one too many - however if there was some great advantage to being subbed up to TR I would probably do it. It seems like I will be happy just to be a lurker there. on an aside - I always find it slightly unnerving when a reply shows up before my post has appeared!! I thought us Aussies were meant to be ahead of many of you in time and space!! kind regards Darryl. -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Susan Harkins Sent: Friday, 4 July 2008 10:10 AM To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving Subject: Re: [AccessD] OT: Tech Republic (was Article on stuff broken inAccess2007) Well, I'd like to think that I write useful articles and blog entries. Having said that, I realize that everything I write has a limited audience. TechRepublic tackles a wide range of topics, from user type solutions to high end IT and developer issues. But, I'll admit -- when I need a specific solution, I come here. You can't get the same kind of quick turn around at TR that we get here. In fact, you can post a question and not get a single response. On the other hand, I learn something new there almost every day -- but the catch is, it isn't always something I can put to immediate use. Susan H. > > > Hi guys and gals. > > Apart from being able to vote etc, is there any great advantage (or maybe > more importantly, disadvantage) to signing up for Tech - Republic. Right > now I feel I have a good balance between email lists for help (and > helping) vs the amount to time and effort it takes to go thru all the > postings. > > I really don't fancy joining anything else at this stage if there is not > much to gain, or worse, an increase in babble to the email in box. > > your thoughts? > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Susan Harkins > Sent: Thursday, 3 July 2008 11:21 PM > To: AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > Subject: [AccessD] Article on stuff broken in Access 2007 > > > > > I wrote this for TechRepublic.com and since it's getting a little > feedback, > thought some of you might want to follow the conversations. I've already > seen at least one issue I didn't know about in the responses. > > Susan H. > > -- > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > This email and any attachments may contain privileged and confidential > information and are intended for the named addressee only. If you have > received this e-mail in error, please notify the sender and delete this > e-mail immediately. Any confidentiality, privilege or copyright is not > waived or lost because this e-mail has been sent to you in error. It is > your responsibility to check this e-mail and any attachments for viruses. > No warranty is made that this material is free from computer virus or any > other defect or error. Any loss/damage incurred by using this material is > not the sender's responsibility. The sender's entire liability will be > limited to resupplying the material. > > -- > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com This email and any attachments may contain privileged and confidential information and are intended for the named addressee only. If you have received this e-mail in error, please notify the sender and delete this e-mail immediately. Any confidentiality, privilege or copyright is not waived or lost because this e-mail has been sent to you in error. It is your responsibility to check this e-mail and any attachments for viruses. No warranty is made that this material is free from computer virus or any other defect or error. Any loss/damage incurred by using this material is not the sender's responsibility. The sender's entire liability will be limited to resupplying the material. From ssharkins at gmail.com Thu Jul 3 19:40:36 2008 From: ssharkins at gmail.com (Susan Harkins) Date: Thu, 3 Jul 2008 20:40:36 -0400 Subject: [AccessD] OT: Tech Republic (was Article on stuff broken inAccess2007) References: <57E6E6CA42105A48B977303A2CDC2720076BF12CC2@WPEXCH22.retail.ad.cmltd.net.au> Message-ID: <04bb01c8dd6e$c30c6690$2f8601c7@SusanOne> > ok... Thanks Susan, I like to read stuff there (especially from you folks) > and I do learn lots, but I just cant see much advantage to actually having > to sign up. =======The majority of the site is free -- is that what you mean by signing up -- subscribing? I think TechPro's the only part that you have to pay for. Susan H. From Darryl.Collins at coles.com.au Thu Jul 3 19:49:31 2008 From: Darryl.Collins at coles.com.au (Darryl Collins) Date: Fri, 4 Jul 2008 10:49:31 +1000 Subject: [AccessD] OT: Tech Republic (was Article on stuff brokeninAccess2007) In-Reply-To: <04bb01c8dd6e$c30c6690$2f8601c7@SusanOne> Message-ID: <57E6E6CA42105A48B977303A2CDC2720076BF12CC3@WPEXCH22.retail.ad.cmltd.net.au> aaaah, If you want to vote, add comments and/or do some other things the site asks you to join, which maybe both painless and harmless. But I was just wondering if it meant I was going to get a whole stack of chatter and/or emails from TR that I really didn't want to know about - So I was thinking "is having the ability to vote etc going to be worth the possible hassle of signing up to the service"?. I thought I would ask the list (as it seems a few of you are members of TR) what you thought about the whole shebang. Maybe I am just in an odd mood today, but the idea of having to sign up to something else is bothersome for some reason. Anyway... I don't want to continue to bore the entire list with my emotional issue of the day so I might let this whole thread drop. Thanks Susan for your comments. Warm Regards Darryl. -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Susan Harkins Sent: Friday, 4 July 2008 10:41 AM To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving Subject: Re: [AccessD] OT: Tech Republic (was Article on stuff brokeninAccess2007) > ok... Thanks Susan, I like to read stuff there (especially from you folks) > and I do learn lots, but I just cant see much advantage to actually having > to sign up. =======The majority of the site is free -- is that what you mean by signing up -- subscribing? I think TechPro's the only part that you have to pay for. Susan H. -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com This email and any attachments may contain privileged and confidential information and are intended for the named addressee only. If you have received this e-mail in error, please notify the sender and delete this e-mail immediately. Any confidentiality, privilege or copyright is not waived or lost because this e-mail has been sent to you in error. It is your responsibility to check this e-mail and any attachments for viruses. No warranty is made that this material is free from computer virus or any other defect or error. Any loss/damage incurred by using this material is not the sender's responsibility. The sender's entire liability will be limited to resupplying the material. From wdhindman at dejpolsystems.com Thu Jul 3 20:46:27 2008 From: wdhindman at dejpolsystems.com (William Hindman) Date: Thu, 3 Jul 2008 21:46:27 -0400 Subject: [AccessD] OT: Tech Republic (was Article on stuff brokeninAccess2007) References: <57E6E6CA42105A48B977303A2CDC2720076BF12CC3@WPEXCH22.retail.ad.cmltd.net.au> Message-ID: ...I joined long ago but don't use it much ...you can opt out of any e-mail ...I get two from them weekly but if the header doesn't interest me it never gets opened ...but often enough I do get something that I want to read so I keep them coming. William -------------------------------------------------- From: "Darryl Collins" Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2008 8:49 PM To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'" Subject: Re: [AccessD] OT: Tech Republic (was Article on stuff brokeninAccess2007) > > > aaaah, If you want to vote, add comments and/or do some other things the > site asks you to join, which maybe both painless and harmless. But I was > just wondering if it meant I was going to get a whole stack of chatter > and/or emails from TR that I really didn't want to know about - So I was > thinking "is having the ability to vote etc going to be worth the possible > hassle of signing up to the service"?. > > I thought I would ask the list (as it seems a few of you are members of > TR) what you thought about the whole shebang. Maybe I am just in an odd > mood today, but the idea of having to sign up to something else is > bothersome for some reason. > > Anyway... I don't want to continue to bore the entire list with my > emotional issue of the day so I might let this whole thread drop. > > Thanks Susan for your comments. > > Warm Regards > Darryl. > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Susan Harkins > Sent: Friday, 4 July 2008 10:41 AM > To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving > Subject: Re: [AccessD] OT: Tech Republic (was Article on stuff > brokeninAccess2007) > > >> ok... Thanks Susan, I like to read stuff there (especially from you >> folks) >> and I do learn lots, but I just cant see much advantage to actually >> having >> to sign up. > > =======The majority of the site is free -- is that what you mean by > signing > up -- subscribing? I think TechPro's the only part that you have to pay > for. > > Susan H. > > -- > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > This email and any attachments may contain privileged and confidential > information and are intended for the named addressee only. If you have > received this e-mail in error, please notify the sender and delete this > e-mail immediately. Any confidentiality, privilege or copyright is not > waived or lost because this e-mail has been sent to you in error. It is > your responsibility to check this e-mail and any attachments for viruses. > No warranty is made that this material is free from computer virus or any > other defect or error. Any loss/damage incurred by using this material is > not the sender's responsibility. The sender's entire liability will be > limited to resupplying the material. > > -- > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From ssharkins at gmail.com Fri Jul 4 08:38:10 2008 From: ssharkins at gmail.com (Susan Harkins) Date: Fri, 4 Jul 2008 09:38:10 -0400 Subject: [AccessD] OT: Tech Republic (was Article on stuffbrokeninAccess2007) References: <57E6E6CA42105A48B977303A2CDC2720076BF12CC3@WPEXCH22.retail.ad.cmltd.net.au> Message-ID: <005901c8dddb$396cb120$2f8601c7@SusanOne> Same here Darryl -- the only stuff I get is by subscription to it. I think, on occasion they do send a "buy this stuff" spam type E-mail, but I'm not sure that's not part of a subscription. Like William, you can tell from the header whether you want to bother with reviewing it. Some of it, I'd buy if I had an employer paying for it! ;) Susan H. > ...I joined long ago but don't use it much ...you can opt out of any > e-mail > ...I get two from them weekly but if the header doesn't interest me it > never > gets opened ...but often enough I do get something that I want to read so > I > keep them coming. From max.wanadoo at gmail.com Fri Jul 4 08:44:08 2008 From: max.wanadoo at gmail.com (Max Wanadoo) Date: Fri, 4 Jul 2008 14:44:08 +0100 Subject: [AccessD] OT: Tech Republic (was Article on stuffbrokeninAccess2007) In-Reply-To: <005901c8dddb$396cb120$2f8601c7@SusanOne> References: <57E6E6CA42105A48B977303A2CDC2720076BF12CC3@WPEXCH22.retail.ad.cmltd.net.au> <005901c8dddb$396cb120$2f8601c7@SusanOne> Message-ID: >> Some of it, I'd buy ifI had an employer paying for it! ;) hmm, and some of it I'd buy if it were free. Max On Fri, Jul 4, 2008 at 2:38 PM, Susan Harkins wrote: > Same here Darryl -- the only stuff I get is by subscription to it. I think, > on occasion they do send a "buy this stuff" spam type E-mail, but I'm not > sure that's not part of a subscription. Like William, you can tell from the > header whether you want to bother with reviewing it. Some of it, I'd buy if > I had an employer paying for it! ;) > > Susan H. > > > > ...I joined long ago but don't use it much ...you can opt out of any > > e-mail > > ...I get two from them weekly but if the header doesn't interest me it > > never > > gets opened ...but often enough I do get something that I want to read so > > I > > keep them coming. > > -- > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > From iggy at nanaimo.ark.com Sat Jul 5 08:51:11 2008 From: iggy at nanaimo.ark.com (Tony Septav) Date: Sat, 05 Jul 2008 06:51:11 -0700 Subject: [AccessD] Restrict the number of lines in a text box. Message-ID: <486F7C4F.8020700@nanaimo.ark.com> Hey All Does anyone know how to restrict the number of lines in a text box? I found some old Access97 code to restrict the numbers of characters to the width of the text box. Thanks From rockysmolin at bchacc.com Sat Jul 5 09:28:32 2008 From: rockysmolin at bchacc.com (rockysmolin at bchacc.com) Date: Sat, 5 Jul 2008 10:28:32 -0400 Subject: [AccessD] Restrict the number of lines in a text box. Message-ID: <380-22008765142832344@M2W022.mail2web.com> Couldn't you just use that code and multiply the number of characters in one line by the number of lines? You'd have to adjust the routine to also count hard returns so that, if you wanted to restric tthe text box to three lines the user can't enter four short lines. You'vre also got to account for different fonts having different character widths. Interesting problem. Maybe you can post the solution. Rocky Original Message: ----------------- From: Tony Septav iggy at nanaimo.ark.com Date: Sat, 05 Jul 2008 06:51:11 -0700 To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: [AccessD] Restrict the number of lines in a text box. Hey All Does anyone know how to restrict the number of lines in a text box? I found some old Access97 code to restrict the numbers of characters to the width of the text box. Thanks -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com -------------------------------------------------------------------- mail2web LIVE ? Free email based on Microsoft? Exchange technology - http://link.mail2web.com/LIVE From iggy at nanaimo.ark.com Sat Jul 5 09:45:42 2008 From: iggy at nanaimo.ark.com (Tony Septav) Date: Sat, 05 Jul 2008 07:45:42 -0700 Subject: [AccessD] Restrict the number of lines in a text box. In-Reply-To: <380-22008765142832344@M2W022.mail2web.com> References: <380-22008765142832344@M2W022.mail2web.com> Message-ID: <486F8916.6040409@nanaimo.ark.com> Hey Rocky Thanks for the reply. Basically what I figured. What I figure on doing is using the old Access97 code (it needs modifying) to get the maximum characters for the text box width and multiply that by the number of lines. That way I can first run a check to see what is happening if the user is just simply typing text (no carriage return or line feed). If it passes the test then check and count the number CR and/or LF if they exceed the number of lines -1 then trap it and warn the user. I think that should work. Just didn't want to reinvent the wheel if there was something already out there. rockysmolin at bchacc.com wrote: >Couldn't you just use that code and multiply the number of characters in >one line by the number of lines? > >You'd have to adjust the routine to also count hard returns so that, if you >wanted to restric tthe text box to three lines the user can't enter four >short lines. > >You'vre also got to account for different fonts having different character >widths. > >Interesting problem. Maybe you can post the solution. > >Rocky > > >Original Message: >----------------- >From: Tony Septav iggy at nanaimo.ark.com >Date: Sat, 05 Jul 2008 06:51:11 -0700 >To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com >Subject: [AccessD] Restrict the number of lines in a text box. > > >Hey All >Does anyone know how to restrict the number of lines in a text box? >I found some old Access97 code to restrict the numbers of characters to >the width of the text box. > >Thanks > > From rockysmolin at bchacc.com Sat Jul 5 10:37:15 2008 From: rockysmolin at bchacc.com (rockysmolin at bchacc.com) Date: Sat, 5 Jul 2008 11:37:15 -0400 Subject: [AccessD] Restrict the number of lines in a text box. Message-ID: <380-22008765153715567@M2W039.mail2web.com> Tony: You could probably check each keystroke by calling your cahck routine from the OnChange event. Or maybe the KeyDown or KeyPress event with KeyPreview=True. R Original Message: ----------------- From: Tony Septav iggy at nanaimo.ark.com Date: Sat, 05 Jul 2008 07:45:42 -0700 To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: Re: [AccessD] Restrict the number of lines in a text box. Hey Rocky Thanks for the reply. Basically what I figured. What I figure on doing is using the old Access97 code (it needs modifying) to get the maximum characters for the text box width and multiply that by the number of lines. That way I can first run a check to see what is happening if the user is just simply typing text (no carriage return or line feed). If it passes the test then check and count the number CR and/or LF if they exceed the number of lines -1 then trap it and warn the user. I think that should work. Just didn't want to reinvent the wheel if there was something already out there. rockysmolin at bchacc.com wrote: >Couldn't you just use that code and multiply the number of characters in >one line by the number of lines? > >You'd have to adjust the routine to also count hard returns so that, if you >wanted to restric tthe text box to three lines the user can't enter four >short lines. > >You'vre also got to account for different fonts having different character >widths. > >Interesting problem. Maybe you can post the solution. > >Rocky > > >Original Message: >----------------- >From: Tony Septav iggy at nanaimo.ark.com >Date: Sat, 05 Jul 2008 06:51:11 -0700 >To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com >Subject: [AccessD] Restrict the number of lines in a text box. > > >Hey All >Does anyone know how to restrict the number of lines in a text box? >I found some old Access97 code to restrict the numbers of characters to >the width of the text box. > >Thanks > > -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com -------------------------------------------------------------------- mail2web.com ? What can On Demand Business Solutions do for you? http://link.mail2web.com/Business/SharePoint From Gustav at cactus.dk Sat Jul 5 11:01:21 2008 From: Gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock) Date: Sat, 05 Jul 2008 18:01:21 +0200 Subject: [AccessD] Restrict the number of lines in a text box. Message-ID: Hi Tony Perhaps Stephen Lebans can help you. Look her for LimitTextInput and TextWidth-Height: http://www.lebans.com/limittextinput.htm http://www.lebans.com/textwidth-height.htm /gustav >----------------- >From: Tony Septav iggy at nanaimo.ark.com >Date: Sat, 05 Jul 2008 06:51:11 -0700 >To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com >Subject: [AccessD] Restrict the number of lines in a text box. > > >Hey All >Does anyone know how to restrict the number of lines in a text box? >I found some old Access97 code to restrict the numbers of characters to >the width of the text box. From iggy at nanaimo.ark.com Sat Jul 5 11:41:40 2008 From: iggy at nanaimo.ark.com (Tony Septav) Date: Sat, 05 Jul 2008 09:41:40 -0700 Subject: [AccessD] Restrict the number of lines in a text box. In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <486FA444.2010901@nanaimo.ark.com> Hey Gustav Darn just about had mine up and working, but............ Mr. Leban's stuff is always so clean and nice, I tried it out and it seems to working wonderfully. Thanks for the tip. Gustav Brock wrote: >Hi Tony > >Perhaps Stephen Lebans can help you. Look her for LimitTextInput and TextWidth-Height: > >http://www.lebans.com/limittextinput.htm >http://www.lebans.com/textwidth-height.htm > >/gustav > > > >>----------------- >>From: Tony Septav iggy at nanaimo.ark.com >>Date: Sat, 05 Jul 2008 06:51:11 -0700 >>To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com >>Subject: [AccessD] Restrict the number of lines in a text box. >> >> >>Hey All >>Does anyone know how to restrict the number of lines in a text box? >>I found some old Access97 code to restrict the numbers of characters to >>the width of the text box. >> >> > > > > > From rbgajewski at adelphia.net Sun Jul 6 08:22:29 2008 From: rbgajewski at adelphia.net (Bob Gajewski) Date: Sun, 6 Jul 2008 09:22:29 -0400 Subject: [AccessD] How do I change the default month in Leban's MonthCalendar module? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1AE67AF05D304C3A8B2FBDD9A0CF977D@DCYN3T81> Hi Folks I have attempted to use Leban's "MonthControl" solution (http://www.lebans.com/monthcalendar.htm) for populating a date field on a form. Of course, it works wonderfully - as programmed. However, for the purposes of my specific form, the user will almost always be entering data from the previous month. If I double-click on my IncidentDate field today, the popup shows July, August and September - but they will probably need June. Does anyone know where/how I can insert the DateAdd("mm",-1,Date) code to have the it default to June, July and August (last month, this month and next month)? I tried to work with the dtStart value, but my code keeps failing ... TIA, Bob Gajewski From wdhindman at dejpolsystems.com Sun Jul 6 15:30:18 2008 From: wdhindman at dejpolsystems.com (William Hindman) Date: Sun, 6 Jul 2008 16:30:18 -0400 Subject: [AccessD] How do I change the default month in Leban'sMonthCalendar module? References: <1AE67AF05D304C3A8B2FBDD9A0CF977D@DCYN3T81> Message-ID: Bob ...Lebans frequents the ms.public.access forums and usually responds to questions about his code posted there. William -------------------------------------------------- From: "Bob Gajewski" Sent: Sunday, July 06, 2008 9:22 AM To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'" Subject: [AccessD] How do I change the default month in Leban'sMonthCalendar module? > Hi Folks > > I have attempted to use Leban's "MonthControl" solution > (http://www.lebans.com/monthcalendar.htm) for populating a date field on a > form. Of course, it works wonderfully - as programmed. > > However, for the purposes of my specific form, the user will almost always > be entering data from the previous month. If I double-click on my > IncidentDate field today, the popup shows July, August and September - but > they will probably need June. > > Does anyone know where/how I can insert the DateAdd("mm",-1,Date) code to > have the it default to June, July and August (last month, this month and > next month)? I tried to work with the dtStart value, but my code keeps > failing ... > > TIA, > Bob Gajewski > > > > > -- > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From rbgajewski at adelphia.net Sun Jul 6 18:27:56 2008 From: rbgajewski at adelphia.net (Bob Gajewski) Date: Sun, 6 Jul 2008 19:27:56 -0400 Subject: [AccessD] How do I change the default month inLeban'sMonthCalendar module? In-Reply-To: References: <1AE67AF05D304C3A8B2FBDD9A0CF977D@DCYN3T81> Message-ID: Thanks William! -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of William Hindman Sent: Sunday, July 06, 2008 16:30 PM To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving Subject: Re: [AccessD] How do I change the default month inLeban'sMonthCalendar module? Bob ...Lebans frequents the ms.public.access forums and usually responds to questions about his code posted there. William -------------------------------------------------- From: "Bob Gajewski" Sent: Sunday, July 06, 2008 9:22 AM To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'" Subject: [AccessD] How do I change the default month in Leban'sMonthCalendar module? > Hi Folks > > I have attempted to use Leban's "MonthControl" solution > (http://www.lebans.com/monthcalendar.htm) for populating a date field > on a form. Of course, it works wonderfully - as programmed. > > However, for the purposes of my specific form, the user will almost > always be entering data from the previous month. If I double-click on > my IncidentDate field today, the popup shows July, August and > September - but they will probably need June. > > Does anyone know where/how I can insert the DateAdd("mm",-1,Date) code > to have the it default to June, July and August (last month, this > month and next month)? I tried to work with the dtStart value, but my > code keeps failing ... > > TIA, > Bob Gajewski > > > > > -- > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From wdhindman at dejpolsystems.com Sun Jul 6 23:10:33 2008 From: wdhindman at dejpolsystems.com (William Hindman) Date: Mon, 7 Jul 2008 00:10:33 -0400 Subject: [AccessD] How do I change the default monthinLeban'sMonthCalendar module? References: <1AE67AF05D304C3A8B2FBDD9A0CF977D@DCYN3T81> Message-ID: <0B69959C0FC541E2944660AFAB57244F@jislaptopdev> ...just remember to post any solution here, eh ...I'm interested in the answer as well. William -------------------------------------------------- From: "Bob Gajewski" Sent: Sunday, July 06, 2008 7:27 PM To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'" Subject: Re: [AccessD] How do I change the default monthinLeban'sMonthCalendar module? > Thanks William! > > -----Original Message----- > From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of William Hindman > Sent: Sunday, July 06, 2008 16:30 PM > To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving > Subject: Re: [AccessD] How do I change the default month > inLeban'sMonthCalendar module? > > Bob > > ...Lebans frequents the ms.public.access forums and usually responds to > questions about his code posted there. > > William > > -------------------------------------------------- > From: "Bob Gajewski" > Sent: Sunday, July 06, 2008 9:22 AM > To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'" > > Subject: [AccessD] How do I change the default month in > Leban'sMonthCalendar > module? > >> Hi Folks >> >> I have attempted to use Leban's "MonthControl" solution >> (http://www.lebans.com/monthcalendar.htm) for populating a date field >> on a form. Of course, it works wonderfully - as programmed. >> >> However, for the purposes of my specific form, the user will almost >> always be entering data from the previous month. If I double-click on >> my IncidentDate field today, the popup shows July, August and >> September - but they will probably need June. >> >> Does anyone know where/how I can insert the DateAdd("mm",-1,Date) code >> to have the it default to June, July and August (last month, this >> month and next month)? I tried to work with the dtStart value, but my >> code keeps failing ... >> >> TIA, >> Bob Gajewski >> >> >> >> >> -- >> AccessD mailing list >> AccessD at databaseadvisors.com >> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd >> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > > -- > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > -- > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From stuart at lexacorp.com.pg Mon Jul 7 00:24:26 2008 From: stuart at lexacorp.com.pg (Stuart McLachlan) Date: Mon, 07 Jul 2008 15:24:26 +1000 Subject: [AccessD] How do I change the default month in Leban's MonthCalendar module? In-Reply-To: <1AE67AF05D304C3A8B2FBDD9A0CF977D@DCYN3T81> References: Message-ID: <4872352A.22951.5D773ABA@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg> You are doing it in the correct place, the function that calls the calendar is: ShowMonthCalendar(mc, dtStart, dtEnd). This should be in your IncidentDate.Double_Click event handler. However "mm" is not a valid parameter for DateAdd. :-( Try DateAdd("m",-1,Date()) On 6 Jul 2008 at 9:22, Bob Gajewski wrote: > Hi Folks > > I have attempted to use Leban's "MonthControl" solution > (http://www.lebans.com/monthcalendar.htm) for populating a date field on a > form. Of course, it works wonderfully - as programmed. > > However, for the purposes of my specific form, the user will almost always > be entering data from the previous month. If I double-click on my > IncidentDate field today, the popup shows July, August and September - but > they will probably need June. > > Does anyone know where/how I can insert the DateAdd("mm",-1,Date) code to > have the it default to June, July and August (last month, this month and > next month)? I tried to work with the dtStart value, but my code keeps > failing ... > > TIA, > Bob Gajewski > > > > > -- > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From wdhindman at dejpolsystems.com Mon Jul 7 04:27:19 2008 From: wdhindman at dejpolsystems.com (William Hindman) Date: Mon, 7 Jul 2008 05:27:19 -0400 Subject: [AccessD] OT: Arthur's Getting a Welcome to Bermuda Party References: <1AE67AF05D304C3A8B2FBDD9A0CF977D@DCYN3T81> <0B69959C0FC541E2944660AFAB57244F@jislaptopdev> Message-ID: ...anyone not watching the Atlantic hurricanes like we Floridians do, might note that Arthur's recent relocation to Bermuda has him directly in the path of the season's first hurricane ...welcome home, Arthur :) William From fuller.artful at gmail.com Mon Jul 7 11:27:42 2008 From: fuller.artful at gmail.com (Arthur Fuller) Date: Mon, 7 Jul 2008 13:27:42 -0300 Subject: [AccessD] OT: Arthur's Getting a Welcome to Bermuda Party In-Reply-To: References: <1AE67AF05D304C3A8B2FBDD9A0CF977D@DCYN3T81> <0B69959C0FC541E2944660AFAB57244F@jislaptopdev> Message-ID: <29f585dd0807070927l5d085096v38b276059b8aa0d0@mail.gmail.com> The Bermuda Gazette published an insert recently about hurricane season. It included a shopping list for things to buy in preparation. Arthur On 7/7/08, William Hindman wrote: > > ...anyone not watching the Atlantic hurricanes like we Floridians do, might > note that Arthur's recent relocation to Bermuda has him directly in the > path > of the season's first hurricane ...welcome home, Arthur :) > > William > > From iggy at nanaimo.ark.com Mon Jul 7 11:45:55 2008 From: iggy at nanaimo.ark.com (Tony Septav) Date: Mon, 07 Jul 2008 09:45:55 -0700 Subject: [AccessD] OT: Dual Monitors Message-ID: <48724843.3040306@nanaimo.ark.com> Hey All Before I go searching this out, I was wondering if any of you that have dual montiors would know if this is possible. I am wondering is it possible on a laptop connected to an external monitor, to allow the user to run one program on the laptop screen and at the same time have another program running on the external monitor. Do I need special softeware to do this? From fuller.artful at gmail.com Mon Jul 7 13:46:02 2008 From: fuller.artful at gmail.com (Arthur Fuller) Date: Mon, 7 Jul 2008 15:46:02 -0300 Subject: [AccessD] OT: Dual Monitors In-Reply-To: <48724843.3040306@nanaimo.ark.com> References: <48724843.3040306@nanaimo.ark.com> Message-ID: <29f585dd0807071146s25dba7b1l23000bd2732f751c@mail.gmail.com> In my setup the two monitors function as one really wide on. So I just open both programs and drag one over to the other monitor. This also works great with Access. You can run your app on one while debugging it on the other. At work I have a pair of 22" monitors. I'm really spoiled now. Some notebooks require that you hit a key to make it happen. I forget offhand the particular keystroke, I think it's F6. Arthur On 7/7/08, Tony Septav wrote: > > Hey All > Before I go searching this out, I was wondering if any of you that have > dual montiors would know if this is possible. > I am wondering is it possible on a laptop connected to an external > monitor, to allow the user to run one program on the laptop screen and > at the same time have another program running on the external monitor. > Do I need special softeware to do this? > From reuben at gfconsultants.com Mon Jul 7 13:50:46 2008 From: reuben at gfconsultants.com (Reuben Cummings) Date: Mon, 7 Jul 2008 14:50:46 -0400 Subject: [AccessD] OT: Dual Monitors In-Reply-To: <48724843.3040306@nanaimo.ark.com> Message-ID: <000101c8e062$5e86d290$6401a8c0@reubennx9500> I have a second monitor on my laptop for that very reason. It works perfectly. My laptop has a 17" at 1024x768 and my second is a 19" at 800x600. Reuben Cummings GFC, LLC 812.523.1017 > -----Original Message----- > From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Tony Septav > Sent: Monday, July 07, 2008 12:46 PM > To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving > Subject: [AccessD] OT: Dual Monitors > > > Hey All > Before I go searching this out, I was wondering if any of you > that have > dual montiors would know if this is possible. > I am wondering is it possible on a laptop connected to an external > monitor, to allow the user to run one program on the laptop > screen and > at the same time have another program running on the external > monitor. > Do I need special softeware to do this? > -- > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > From reuben at gfconsultants.com Mon Jul 7 13:52:15 2008 From: reuben at gfconsultants.com (Reuben Cummings) Date: Mon, 7 Jul 2008 14:52:15 -0400 Subject: [AccessD] OT: Dual Monitors In-Reply-To: <29f585dd0807071146s25dba7b1l23000bd2732f751c@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <000201c8e062$93d84460$6401a8c0@reubennx9500> Compaq laptops...F4 is the key. However, it actually causes the 2nd unit to replicate the first rather than be an extension of it. I have to go into the display settings to do mine. Reuben Cummings GFC, LLC 812.523.1017 > -----Original Message----- > From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of > Arthur Fuller > Sent: Monday, July 07, 2008 2:46 PM > To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving > Subject: Re: [AccessD] OT: Dual Monitors > > > In my setup the two monitors function as one really wide on. > So I just open both programs and drag one over to the other > monitor. This also works great with Access. You can run your > app on one while debugging it on the other. At work I have a > pair of 22" monitors. I'm really spoiled now. > > Some notebooks require that you hit a key to make it happen. > I forget offhand the particular keystroke, I think it's F6. > > > Arthur > > On 7/7/08, Tony Septav wrote: > > > > Hey All > > Before I go searching this out, I was wondering if any of you that > > have dual montiors would know if this is possible. I am > wondering is > > it possible on a laptop connected to an external monitor, > to allow the > > user to run one program on the laptop screen and at the > same time have > > another program running on the external monitor. Do I need special > > softeware to do this? > > > -- > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > From DWUTKA at Marlow.com Mon Jul 7 13:53:26 2008 From: DWUTKA at Marlow.com (Drew Wutka) Date: Mon, 7 Jul 2008 13:53:26 -0500 Subject: [AccessD] OT: Dual Monitors In-Reply-To: <48724843.3040306@nanaimo.ark.com> References: <48724843.3040306@nanaimo.ark.com> Message-ID: Depends on the video card that your laptop has. I have experience with both ATI and NVidia, and both have this capability. Older laptops may only allow the external monitor to mimic the local screen, but newer ones (last few years) should allow you to setup the external as an 'extra' monitor. Drew -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Tony Septav Sent: Monday, July 07, 2008 11:46 AM To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving Subject: [AccessD] OT: Dual Monitors Hey All Before I go searching this out, I was wondering if any of you that have dual montiors would know if this is possible. I am wondering is it possible on a laptop connected to an external monitor, to allow the user to run one program on the laptop screen and at the same time have another program running on the external monitor. Do I need special softeware to do this? -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com The information contained in this transmission is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain II-VI Proprietary and/or II-VI Business Sensitive material. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender immediately and destroy the material in its entirety, whether electronic or hard copy. You are notified that any review, retransmission, copying, disclosure, dissemination, or other use of, or taking of any action in reliance upon this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient is prohibited. From mfisch4 at capex.com.ar Mon Jul 7 13:55:08 2008 From: mfisch4 at capex.com.ar (MF) Date: Mon, 07 Jul 2008 15:55:08 -0300 Subject: [AccessD] OT: Dual Monitors In-Reply-To: <48724843.3040306@nanaimo.ark.com> References: <48724843.3040306@nanaimo.ark.com> Message-ID: <200807071855.m67It816006292@databaseadvisors.com> I've done it several times while running PPT's. I don't remember which it was but there was a function key that took you in sequence through all the possibilities. There may be a little monitor inscribed pr painted on the key. There was no more soft involved than Windows. At least not any I had to install. It was a laptop thing if I recall correctly. MF ______________________________ At 01:45 PM 07/07/2008, you wrote: >Hey All >Before I go searching this out, I was wondering if any of you that have >dual montiors would know if this is possible. >I am wondering is it possible on a laptop connected to an external >monitor, to allow the user to run one program on the laptop screen and >at the same time have another program running on the external monitor. >Do I need special softeware to do this? >-- >AccessD mailing list >AccessD at databaseadvisors.com >http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd >Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From iggy at nanaimo.ark.com Mon Jul 7 12:16:35 2008 From: iggy at nanaimo.ark.com (Tony Septav) Date: Mon, 07 Jul 2008 10:16:35 -0700 Subject: [AccessD] OT: Dual Monitors In-Reply-To: <000101c8e062$5e86d290$6401a8c0@reubennx9500> References: <000101c8e062$5e86d290$6401a8c0@reubennx9500> Message-ID: <48724F73.8020007@nanaimo.ark.com> Hey Reuben Arthur thanks for your response. Reuben I do not want to take up your time. But is there anything special I need to do to get this working? This concept applies to a client's machine. Reuben Cummings wrote: >I have a second monitor on my laptop for that very reason. It works >perfectly. >My laptop has a 17" at 1024x768 and my second is a 19" at 800x600. > >Reuben Cummings >GFC, LLC >812.523.1017 > > > > >>-----Original Message----- >>From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com >>[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Tony Septav >>Sent: Monday, July 07, 2008 12:46 PM >>To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving >>Subject: [AccessD] OT: Dual Monitors >> >> >>Hey All >>Before I go searching this out, I was wondering if any of you >>that have >>dual montiors would know if this is possible. >>I am wondering is it possible on a laptop connected to an external >>monitor, to allow the user to run one program on the laptop >>screen and >>at the same time have another program running on the external >>monitor. >>Do I need special softeware to do this? >>-- >>AccessD mailing list >>AccessD at databaseadvisors.com >>http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd >>Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com >> >> >> > > > > > From reuben at gfconsultants.com Mon Jul 7 14:05:42 2008 From: reuben at gfconsultants.com (Reuben Cummings) Date: Mon, 7 Jul 2008 15:05:42 -0400 Subject: [AccessD] OT: Dual Monitors In-Reply-To: <48724F73.8020007@nanaimo.ark.com> Message-ID: <000a01c8e064$747427e0$6401a8c0@reubennx9500> No. Assuming, like in an earlier post, this is a fairly new machine, it's simple. Plug in the monitor. Right click on the windows desktop (I'm assuming Win XP) and select properties. Goto the Settings tab. Click on the '2' monitor and check "Extend my Windows desktop onto this monitor" Clikc apply and you are done. BTW, this was written using both so that I could read the properties page on one while I typed in the other. Reuben Cummings GFC, LLC 812.523.1017 > -----Original Message----- > From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Tony Septav > Sent: Monday, July 07, 2008 1:17 PM > To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving > Subject: Re: [AccessD] OT: Dual Monitors > > > Hey Reuben > Arthur thanks for your response. > Reuben I do not want to take up your time. But is there anything > special I need to do to get this working? This concept applies to a > client's machine. > > > Reuben Cummings wrote: > > >I have a second monitor on my laptop for that very reason. It works > >perfectly. My laptop has a 17" at 1024x768 and my second is a 19" at > >800x600. > > > >Reuben Cummings > >GFC, LLC > >812.523.1017 > > > > > > > > > >>-----Original Message----- > >>From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > >>[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of > Tony Septav > >>Sent: Monday, July 07, 2008 12:46 PM > >>To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving > >>Subject: [AccessD] OT: Dual Monitors > >> > >> > >>Hey All > >>Before I go searching this out, I was wondering if any of you > >>that have > >>dual montiors would know if this is possible. > >>I am wondering is it possible on a laptop connected to an external > >>monitor, to allow the user to run one program on the laptop > >>screen and > >>at the same time have another program running on the external > >>monitor. > >>Do I need special softeware to do this? > >>-- > >>AccessD mailing list > >>AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > >>http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > >>Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > >> > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > From JHewson at nciinc.com Mon Jul 7 14:15:58 2008 From: JHewson at nciinc.com (Hewson, Jim ) Date: Mon, 7 Jul 2008 14:15:58 -0500 Subject: [AccessD] OT: Dual Monitors In-Reply-To: <000201c8e062$93d84460$6401a8c0@reubennx9500> References: <29f585dd0807071146s25dba7b1l23000bd2732f751c@mail.gmail.com> <000201c8e062$93d84460$6401a8c0@reubennx9500> Message-ID: <7E02B06E41E5404589EDDDA2BAA1C5A82C8C64@sanex101.nciinc.com> My main machine at work (I have three systems) is a laptop so I may take it with me when traveling. I use a docking station with two 22" flat screens connected. The main issue is that docking station can only take one DVI and one VGA monitor. So the monitors are on two different connectors. This works well for me. I can use the left monitor to open Access and work on the forms, reports etc. I keep the Right monitor for coding and debugging; and I usually have Outlook open on the right. I do not need any key strokes to switch between single or dual monitors. When I plug my laptop on the docking station it will automatically split the screen. When traveling, my "left" monitor is what shows and everything that is supposed to show on the "right" shows properly. Jim jhewson at nciinc.com -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Reuben Cummings Sent: Monday, July 07, 2008 1:52 PM To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' Subject: Re: [AccessD] OT: Dual Monitors Compaq laptops...F4 is the key. However, it actually causes the 2nd unit to replicate the first rather than be an extension of it. I have to go into the display settings to do mine. Reuben Cummings GFC, LLC 812.523.1017 > -----Original Message----- > From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of > Arthur Fuller > Sent: Monday, July 07, 2008 2:46 PM > To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving > Subject: Re: [AccessD] OT: Dual Monitors > > > In my setup the two monitors function as one really wide on. > So I just open both programs and drag one over to the other > monitor. This also works great with Access. You can run your > app on one while debugging it on the other. At work I have a > pair of 22" monitors. I'm really spoiled now. > > Some notebooks require that you hit a key to make it happen. > I forget offhand the particular keystroke, I think it's F6. > > > Arthur > > On 7/7/08, Tony Septav wrote: > > > > Hey All > > Before I go searching this out, I was wondering if any of you that > > have dual montiors would know if this is possible. I am > wondering is > > it possible on a laptop connected to an external monitor, > to allow the > > user to run one program on the laptop screen and at the > same time have > > another program running on the external monitor. Do I need special > > softeware to do this? > > > -- > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com ################################################################################ This email transmission contains information from NCI Information Systems, Inc. that may be considered privileged or confidential and is intended solely for the named recipient. If you have received this message in error, please contact the sender immediately and be aware that the use, copying or dissemination of this information is prohibited. ################################################################################ From iggy at nanaimo.ark.com Mon Jul 7 14:46:22 2008 From: iggy at nanaimo.ark.com (Tony Septav) Date: Mon, 07 Jul 2008 12:46:22 -0700 Subject: [AccessD] OT: Dual Monitors Message-ID: <4872728E.1090201@nanaimo.ark.com> Hey All Thank you all kindly for your responses. I am meeting with the client next monday and I will post the results. Just wanted to be prepared. Thanks Again From Mark.Porter at nana.com Mon Jul 7 17:50:20 2008 From: Mark.Porter at nana.com (Mark Porter) Date: Mon, 7 Jul 2008 14:50:20 -0800 Subject: [AccessD] Same tables, Different data source (ODBC) Message-ID: <23ECCC09839328418BDA4A81BCF7537730980E@ndc-mail-srv1.nana.corp> I have an app that links to tables in an Oracle DB. I'd like to be able to quickly change that environment from the Dev to the Test or Prod (the tables linked will stay the same). Does anyone have any code or techniques to do this quickly? Thanks in advance, Mark Porter Sr. Technologist Nana Development Corp. Desk: 907-265-4156 Fax: 907-343-5656 From rockysmolin at bchacc.com Mon Jul 7 18:30:33 2008 From: rockysmolin at bchacc.com (Rocky Smolin at Beach Access Software) Date: Mon, 7 Jul 2008 16:30:33 -0700 Subject: [AccessD] Same tables, Different data source (ODBC) In-Reply-To: <23ECCC09839328418BDA4A81BCF7537730980E@ndc-mail-srv1.nana.corp> References: <23ECCC09839328418BDA4A81BCF7537730980E@ndc-mail-srv1.nana.corp> Message-ID: <016101c8e089$740560b0$0301a8c0@HAL9005> What differences will there be among the three versions? Rocky Smolin Beach Access Software 858-259-4334 www.e-z-mrp.com www.bchacc.com -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Mark Porter Sent: Monday, July 07, 2008 3:50 PM To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: [AccessD] Same tables, Different data source (ODBC) I have an app that links to tables in an Oracle DB. I'd like to be able to quickly change that environment from the Dev to the Test or Prod (the tables linked will stay the same). Does anyone have any code or techniques to do this quickly? Thanks in advance, Mark Porter Sr. Technologist Nana Development Corp. Desk: 907-265-4156 Fax: 907-343-5656 -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From jengross at gte.net Mon Jul 7 19:48:35 2008 From: jengross at gte.net (Jennifer Gross) Date: Mon, 07 Jul 2008 16:48:35 -0800 Subject: [AccessD] Same tables, Different data source (ODBC) In-Reply-To: <23ECCC09839328418BDA4A81BCF7537730980E@ndc-mail-srv1.nana.corp> Message-ID: <0K3N0033XU9ZE0E3@vms042.mailsrvcs.net> Hi Mark, Am I understanding correctly that during development you either will not, or chose not to be connected to the live Oracle tables, but in your test or development environment you have re-created those tables in another format so that you can work with them? If that is the case then I have a database that connects to Oracle, do not have that connection during development or testing and what I've done is fairly simple (read lame). I have the Oracle connected table and the Access linked table, both with the same name, except whichever table is NOT live at the time I put one or two underscores after the name. When I post an update to the live environment I put the underscore(s) on the Access linked table names and remove them from the Oracle connected tables. I am anxious to hear what others have to say because I have been meaning to streamline this process into code for a while now. Jennifer -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Mark Porter Sent: Monday, July 07, 2008 2:50 PM To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: [AccessD] Same tables, Different data source (ODBC) I have an app that links to tables in an Oracle DB. I'd like to be able to quickly change that environment from the Dev to the Test or Prod (the tables linked will stay the same). Does anyone have any code or techniques to do this quickly? Thanks in advance, Mark Porter Sr. Technologist Nana Development Corp. Desk: 907-265-4156 Fax: 907-343-5656 -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From Darryl.Collins at coles.com.au Mon Jul 7 18:59:18 2008 From: Darryl.Collins at coles.com.au (Darryl Collins) Date: Tue, 8 Jul 2008 09:59:18 +1000 Subject: [AccessD] OT: Dual Monitors In-Reply-To: <48724843.3040306@nanaimo.ark.com> Message-ID: <57E6E6CA42105A48B977303A2CDC2720076BF12CE9@WPEXCH22.retail.ad.cmltd.net.au> Most of our laptops at work are set up like this. I would imagine it depends on your video card being able to support dual monitors. You usually have numerous options on how you want to set it up (such as having the laptop in landscape mode, and the LCD in portrait etc). I find it help to have the both lined up appox the same height and make sure the the left monitor is actually on the left - otherwise mouse behaviour gets a little odd. Other than those quirks it works great. cheers Darryl. -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Tony Septav Sent: Tuesday, 8 July 2008 2:46 AM To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving Subject: [AccessD] OT: Dual Monitors Hey All Before I go searching this out, I was wondering if any of you that have dual montiors would know if this is possible. I am wondering is it possible on a laptop connected to an external monitor, to allow the user to run one program on the laptop screen and at the same time have another program running on the external monitor. 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From Mark.Porter at nana.com Mon Jul 7 19:07:27 2008 From: Mark.Porter at nana.com (Mark Porter) Date: Mon, 7 Jul 2008 16:07:27 -0800 Subject: [AccessD] Same tables, Different data source (ODBC) In-Reply-To: <016101c8e089$740560b0$0301a8c0@HAL9005> References: <23ECCC09839328418BDA4A81BCF7537730980E@ndc-mail-srv1.nana.corp> <016101c8e089$740560b0$0301a8c0@HAL9005> Message-ID: <23ECCC09839328418BDA4A81BCF75377309876@ndc-mail-srv1.nana.corp> Just the data. Dev and Test will have test data, and Production will have live data. All environments will have the same data structure. Mark Porter Sr. Technologist Nana Development Corp. Desk: 907-265-4156 Fax: 907-343-5656 -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Rocky Smolin at Beach Access Software Sent: Monday, July 07, 2008 3:31 PM To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' Subject: Re: [AccessD] Same tables, Different data source (ODBC) What differences will there be among the three versions? Rocky Smolin Beach Access Software 858-259-4334 www.e-z-mrp.com www.bchacc.com -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Mark Porter Sent: Monday, July 07, 2008 3:50 PM To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: [AccessD] Same tables, Different data source (ODBC) I have an app that links to tables in an Oracle DB. I'd like to be able to quickly change that environment from the Dev to the Test or Prod (the tables linked will stay the same). Does anyone have any code or techniques to do this quickly? Thanks in advance, Mark Porter Sr. Technologist Nana Development Corp. Desk: 907-265-4156 Fax: 907-343-5656 -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From rbgajewski at adelphia.net Mon Jul 7 20:28:17 2008 From: rbgajewski at adelphia.net (Bob Gajewski) Date: Mon, 7 Jul 2008 21:28:17 -0400 Subject: [AccessD] How do I change the default month in Leban'sMonthCalendar module? In-Reply-To: <4872352A.22951.5D773ABA@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg> References: <4872352A.22951.5D773ABA@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg> Message-ID: <416BFEC4C201446997FA7CAE4D829100@DCYN3T81> Stuart & William (et al) Yep, it was a syntax error. Instead of: dtStart = Nz(Me.IncidentDate.Value, 0) I had to change it to: dtStart = Nz(Me.IncidentDate.Value, DateAdd("m", -1, Date)) Unfortunately, using the double-click method now loses both the _BeforeUpdate() event and the SelStart, SelLength settings. So, I may not use this after all. Thanks anyways - I was definitely led to my error ("mm" where it should have been "m"). Bob -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Stuart McLachlan Sent: Monday, July 07, 2008 01:24 AM To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving Subject: Re: [AccessD] How do I change the default month in Leban'sMonthCalendar module? You are doing it in the correct place, the function that calls the calendar is: ShowMonthCalendar(mc, dtStart, dtEnd). This should be in your IncidentDate.Double_Click event handler. However "mm" is not a valid parameter for DateAdd. :-( Try DateAdd("m",-1,Date()) On 6 Jul 2008 at 9:22, Bob Gajewski wrote: > Hi Folks > > I have attempted to use Leban's "MonthControl" solution > (http://www.lebans.com/monthcalendar.htm) for populating a date field > on a form. Of course, it works wonderfully - as programmed. > > However, for the purposes of my specific form, the user will almost > always be entering data from the previous month. If I double-click on > my IncidentDate field today, the popup shows July, August and > September - but they will probably need June. > > Does anyone know where/how I can insert the DateAdd("mm",-1,Date) code > to have the it default to June, July and August (last month, this > month and next month)? I tried to work with the dtStart value, but my > code keeps failing ... > > TIA, > Bob Gajewski > > > > > -- > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From rockysmolin at bchacc.com Mon Jul 7 20:47:05 2008 From: rockysmolin at bchacc.com (Rocky Smolin at Beach Access Software) Date: Mon, 7 Jul 2008 18:47:05 -0700 Subject: [AccessD] Same tables, Different data source (ODBC) In-Reply-To: <23ECCC09839328418BDA4A81BCF75377309876@ndc-mail-srv1.nana.corp> References: <23ECCC09839328418BDA4A81BCF7537730980E@ndc-mail-srv1.nana.corp><016101c8e089$740560b0$0301a8c0@HAL9005> <23ECCC09839328418BDA4A81BCF75377309876@ndc-mail-srv1.nana.corp> Message-ID: <017c01c8e09c$87006850$0301a8c0@HAL9005> So how about something like Tribble's relinker which allows you to point to different back ends? Not his relinker, but something along the same lines -maybe a button on the main menu or hotkey that will trigger the open file dialog box and allow you to point to a different db? Rocky Smolin Beach Access Software 858-259-4334 www.e-z-mrp.com www.bchacc.com -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Mark Porter Sent: Monday, July 07, 2008 5:07 PM To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving Subject: Re: [AccessD] Same tables, Different data source (ODBC) Just the data. Dev and Test will have test data, and Production will have live data. All environments will have the same data structure. Mark Porter Sr. Technologist Nana Development Corp. Desk: 907-265-4156 Fax: 907-343-5656 -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Rocky Smolin at Beach Access Software Sent: Monday, July 07, 2008 3:31 PM To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' Subject: Re: [AccessD] Same tables, Different data source (ODBC) What differences will there be among the three versions? Rocky Smolin Beach Access Software 858-259-4334 www.e-z-mrp.com www.bchacc.com -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Mark Porter Sent: Monday, July 07, 2008 3:50 PM To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: [AccessD] Same tables, Different data source (ODBC) I have an app that links to tables in an Oracle DB. I'd like to be able to quickly change that environment from the Dev to the Test or Prod (the tables linked will stay the same). Does anyone have any code or techniques to do this quickly? Thanks in advance, Mark Porter Sr. Technologist Nana Development Corp. Desk: 907-265-4156 Fax: 907-343-5656 -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From joeo at appoli.com Mon Jul 7 22:05:09 2008 From: joeo at appoli.com (Joe O'Connell) Date: Mon, 7 Jul 2008 23:05:09 -0400 Subject: [AccessD] Same tables, Different data source (ODBC) In-Reply-To: <23ECCC09839328418BDA4A81BCF7537730980E@ndc-mail-srv1.nana.corp> References: <23ECCC09839328418BDA4A81BCF7537730980E@ndc-mail-srv1.nana.corp> Message-ID: Mark, I have not worked with Oracle databases, but I have used code similar to this to change table links to different SQL Server databases located on the same server. If the first characters of the connection string for Oracle are not "ODBC", then change the value assigned to strSQLPrefix. You should also add error checking. Joe O'Connell Public Sub ChangeLinks(ByVal strDatabase As String) Dim lngBeg As Long Dim lngEnd As Long Dim strConn As String Dim tdf As TableDef Dim strSQLPrefix As String strSQLPrefix = "ODBC" For Each tdf In CurrentDb.TableDefs If Len(tdf.Connect) > 0 Then If Left$(tdf.Connect, Len(strSQLPrefix)) = strSQLPrefix Then strConn = tdf.Connect lngBeg = InStr(1, strConn, "DATABASE=") + 8 lngEnd = InStr(lngBeg, tdf.Connect, ";") strConn = Left(tdf.Connect, lngBeg) & strDatabase _ & Right(tdf.Connect, Len(tdf.Connect) - lngEnd + 1) tdf.Connect = strConn tdf.RefreshLink End If End If Next tdf End Sub -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Mark Porter Sent: Monday, July 07, 2008 6:50 PM To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: [AccessD] Same tables, Different data source (ODBC) I have an app that links to tables in an Oracle DB. I'd like to be able to quickly change that environment from the Dev to the Test or Prod (the tables linked will stay the same). Does anyone have any code or techniques to do this quickly? Thanks in advance, Mark Porter Sr. Technologist Nana Development Corp. Desk: 907-265-4156 Fax: 907-343-5656 -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From viner at EUnet.yu Tue Jul 8 00:31:02 2008 From: viner at EUnet.yu (viner) Date: Tue, 8 Jul 2008 07:31:02 +0200 Subject: [AccessD] Problem caused by sorting Message-ID: <009a01c8e0bb$d495c370$010a090a@RazvojErvin> Hi, I have a form which shows only one record when I put the sorting (Order By) in the record source(on any field). When the Order By is removed the thing are going well. Are there any suggestions? Thanks in advance for any hint, Ervin From sdhi at kalamazoo.net Mon Jul 7 23:09:53 2008 From: sdhi at kalamazoo.net (Sheri Hixson) Date: Tue, 8 Jul 2008 00:09:53 -0400 Subject: [AccessD] Same tables, Different data source (ODBC) In-Reply-To: References: <23ECCC09839328418BDA4A81BCF7537730980E@ndc-mail-srv1.nana.corp> Message-ID: <000101c8e0b0$79711860$03fea8c0@nw8000> Sherri When we were discussing Berrien last week - did you approve moving it to live? I remember the discussion, but not the outcome! Let me know, Thanks, Sheri -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Joe O'Connell Sent: Monday, July 07, 2008 11:05 PM To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving Subject: Re: [AccessD] Same tables, Different data source (ODBC) Mark, I have not worked with Oracle databases, but I have used code similar to this to change table links to different SQL Server databases located on the same server. If the first characters of the connection string for Oracle are not "ODBC", then change the value assigned to strSQLPrefix. You should also add error checking. Joe O'Connell Public Sub ChangeLinks(ByVal strDatabase As String) Dim lngBeg As Long Dim lngEnd As Long Dim strConn As String Dim tdf As TableDef Dim strSQLPrefix As String strSQLPrefix = "ODBC" For Each tdf In CurrentDb.TableDefs If Len(tdf.Connect) > 0 Then If Left$(tdf.Connect, Len(strSQLPrefix)) = strSQLPrefix Then strConn = tdf.Connect lngBeg = InStr(1, strConn, "DATABASE=") + 8 lngEnd = InStr(lngBeg, tdf.Connect, ";") strConn = Left(tdf.Connect, lngBeg) & strDatabase _ & Right(tdf.Connect, Len(tdf.Connect) - lngEnd + 1) tdf.Connect = strConn tdf.RefreshLink End If End If Next tdf End Sub -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Mark Porter Sent: Monday, July 07, 2008 6:50 PM To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: [AccessD] Same tables, Different data source (ODBC) I have an app that links to tables in an Oracle DB. I'd like to be able to quickly change that environment from the Dev to the Test or Prod (the tables linked will stay the same). Does anyone have any code or techniques to do this quickly? Thanks in advance, Mark Porter Sr. Technologist Nana Development Corp. Desk: 907-265-4156 Fax: 907-343-5656 -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From Gustav at cactus.dk Tue Jul 8 04:49:53 2008 From: Gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock) Date: Tue, 08 Jul 2008 11:49:53 +0200 Subject: [AccessD] Microsoft Security Advisory (955179): ActiveX Snapshot Viewer and IE Message-ID: Hi all This is out: http://www.microsoft.com/technet/security/advisory/955179.mspx Vulnerability in the ActiveX Control for the Snapshot Viewer for Microsoft Access Could Allow Remote Code Execution The vulnerability only affects the ActiveX control for the Snapshot Viewer for Microsoft Office Access 2000, Microsoft Office Access 2002, and Microsoft Office Access 2003. /gustav From ssharkins at gmail.com Tue Jul 8 06:59:10 2008 From: ssharkins at gmail.com (Susan Harkins) Date: Tue, 8 Jul 2008 07:59:10 -0400 Subject: [AccessD] Problem caused by sorting References: <009a01c8e0bb$d495c370$010a090a@RazvojErvin> Message-ID: <04b901c8e0f2$1688f140$2f8601c7@SusanOne> Can you show us the code? That is odd Ervin. Susan H. > > Hi, > I have a form which shows only one record when I put the sorting (Order > By) in the record source(on any field). When the Order By is removed the > thing are going well. Are there any suggestions? > Thanks in advance for any hint, > Ervin From viner at EUnet.yu Tue Jul 8 07:12:55 2008 From: viner at EUnet.yu (viner) Date: Tue, 8 Jul 2008 14:12:55 +0200 Subject: [AccessD] Problem caused by sorting References: <009a01c8e0bb$d495c370$010a090a@RazvojErvin> <04b901c8e0f2$1688f140$2f8601c7@SusanOne> Message-ID: <001201c8e0f3$fb2f8790$010a090a@RazvojErvin> Hi Susan, many thanks for the reply. I was desperate enough to try everything I had on my mind ;-) Putting the TOP 100 solved my problem... Thanks again, Ervin ----- Original Message ----- From: "Susan Harkins" To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving" Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2008 1:59 PM Subject: Re: [AccessD] Problem caused by sorting > Can you show us the code? That is odd Ervin. > > Susan H. > > >> >> Hi, >> I have a form which shows only one record when I put the sorting (Order >> By) in the record source(on any field). When the Order By is removed the >> thing are going well. Are there any suggestions? >> Thanks in advance for any hint, >> Ervin > > -- > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG. > Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 270.4.6/1539 - Release Date: 7/7/2008 > 6:35 PM > > From ssharkins at gmail.com Tue Jul 8 07:20:47 2008 From: ssharkins at gmail.com (Susan Harkins) Date: Tue, 8 Jul 2008 08:20:47 -0400 Subject: [AccessD] Problem caused by sorting References: <009a01c8e0bb$d495c370$010a090a@RazvojErvin><04b901c8e0f2$1688f140$2f8601c7@SusanOne> <001201c8e0f3$fb2f8790$010a090a@RazvojErvin> Message-ID: <04f701c8e0f6$0dc77050$2f8601c7@SusanOne> Oh! You're working with SQL tables then? I'm glad you fixed it. :) Susan H. > Hi Susan, > many thanks for the reply. I was desperate enough to try everything I had > on > my mind ;-) > Putting the TOP 100 solved my problem... > Thanks again, From dwaters at usinternet.com Tue Jul 8 08:31:49 2008 From: dwaters at usinternet.com (Dan Waters) Date: Tue, 8 Jul 2008 08:31:49 -0500 Subject: [AccessD] Same tables, Different data source (ODBC) In-Reply-To: <000101c8e0b0$79711860$03fea8c0@nw8000> References: <23ECCC09839328418BDA4A81BCF7537730980E@ndc-mail-srv1.nana.corp> <000101c8e0b0$79711860$03fea8c0@nw8000> Message-ID: <16A156DCE2C14FC8808C61B8447C7A0F@danwaters> Mark, This is part of the code I use to automatically relink to tables. In my scenario, I move a FE file from my PC to a customer server and back again. When this happens, the code below will automatically relink to tables when the FE is opened if needed. This code is for DAO - I don't know what mods might be needed for Oracle. Hope this helps! Dan '---------------------------------------------------- Public Sub RelinkFrontEndTablesDemo() '-- This will verify that the table links to the BE are correct. Only one table is checked. Dim tdfBE As DAO.TableDef Dim tdfTT As DAO.TableDef Dim stgMessage As String Dim stgSystemFolderPath As String Dim stgSystemBEName As String Dim stgBEPath As String Dim stgTTPath As String Dim dbs As DAO.Database '-- Get BE path stgBEPath = BEFullPath '-- BEFullPath is a function returning a string path to the BE file '-- Set tdf variables for FE Database Set dbs = DBEngine(0)(0) Set tdfBE = dbs.TableDefs("tblPeopleMain") Set tdfTT = dbs.TableDefs("tblTTOpenItemsList") '-- Is relinking needed? stgTTPath = CodeProject.Path & "\PSITempTables.mdb" If tdfBE.Connect = ";DATABASE=" & stgBEPath And tdfTT.Connect = ";DATABASE=" & stgTTPath Then dbs.Close Exit Sub End If dbs.Close '-- Attempt to relink If RelinkingTables(stgBEPath, stgTTPath, "Front End") = False Then stgMessage = "Automatic Front End Table Re-Linking was NOT Successful." _ & vbNewLine & vbNewLine _ & "Table Name = " & MstgTableName _ & vbNewLine & vbNewLine _ & "Contact your System Owner." _ & vbNewLine & vbNewLine _ & "The system will now shut down.@ @" MsgBox GstgReminder, stgMessage, vbCritical + vbOKOnly, "Re-Linking Not Successful" DoEvents Application.Quit End If End Sub '---------------------------------------------------- Private Function RelinkingTablesDemo(stgBEPath As String, stgTTPath As String, stgName As String) As Boolean Dim tdf As DAO.TableDef Dim dbs As DAO.Database Dim intStatus As Integer Dim varStatus As Variant Dim stgtest As String Dim intCustomerLibrary As Integer Dim stgCurrentPCName As String '-- Set correct database If stgName = "Library" Then Set dbs = CodeDb Else Set dbs = DBEngine(0)(0) End If '-- Set up progress bar varStatus = SysCmd(acSysCmdInitMeter, "Refreshing " & stgName & " Table Links . . .", dbs.TableDefs.Count) intStatus = 0 '-- Relink the table if it is a link For Each tdf In dbs.TableDefs If (tdf.Attributes And dbAttachedTable) Then MstgTableName = tdf.Name If Left(tdf.Name, 5) = "tblTT" Then '-- Temp Table Path If tdf.Connect <> ";DATABASE=" & stgTTPath Then tdf.Connect = ";DATABASE=" & stgTTPath tdf.RefreshLink End If Else '-- BE Path If tdf.Connect <> ";DATABASE=" & stgBEPath Then tdf.Connect = ";DATABASE=" & stgBEPath tdf.RefreshLink End If End If End If intStatus = intStatus + 1 varStatus = SysCmd(acSysCmdUpdateMeter, intStatus) DoEvents Next tdf varStatus = SysCmd(acSysCmdClearStatus) RelinkingTablesDemo = True dbs.Close End Function '---------------------------------------------------- -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Sheri Hixson Sent: Monday, July 07, 2008 11:10 PM To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' Subject: Re: [AccessD] Same tables, Different data source (ODBC) Sherri When we were discussing Berrien last week - did you approve moving it to live? I remember the discussion, but not the outcome! Let me know, Thanks, Sheri -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Joe O'Connell Sent: Monday, July 07, 2008 11:05 PM To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving Subject: Re: [AccessD] Same tables, Different data source (ODBC) Mark, I have not worked with Oracle databases, but I have used code similar to this to change table links to different SQL Server databases located on the same server. If the first characters of the connection string for Oracle are not "ODBC", then change the value assigned to strSQLPrefix. You should also add error checking. Joe O'Connell Public Sub ChangeLinks(ByVal strDatabase As String) Dim lngBeg As Long Dim lngEnd As Long Dim strConn As String Dim tdf As TableDef Dim strSQLPrefix As String strSQLPrefix = "ODBC" For Each tdf In CurrentDb.TableDefs If Len(tdf.Connect) > 0 Then If Left$(tdf.Connect, Len(strSQLPrefix)) = strSQLPrefix Then strConn = tdf.Connect lngBeg = InStr(1, strConn, "DATABASE=") + 8 lngEnd = InStr(lngBeg, tdf.Connect, ";") strConn = Left(tdf.Connect, lngBeg) & strDatabase _ & Right(tdf.Connect, Len(tdf.Connect) - lngEnd + 1) tdf.Connect = strConn tdf.RefreshLink End If End If Next tdf End Sub -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Mark Porter Sent: Monday, July 07, 2008 6:50 PM To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: [AccessD] Same tables, Different data source (ODBC) I have an app that links to tables in an Oracle DB. I'd like to be able to quickly change that environment from the Dev to the Test or Prod (the tables linked will stay the same). Does anyone have any code or techniques to do this quickly? Thanks in advance, Mark Porter Sr. Technologist Nana Development Corp. Desk: 907-265-4156 Fax: 907-343-5656 -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From rockysmolin at bchacc.com Tue Jul 8 08:47:05 2008 From: rockysmolin at bchacc.com (Rocky Smolin at Beach Access Software) Date: Tue, 8 Jul 2008 06:47:05 -0700 Subject: [AccessD] Microsoft Security Advisory (955179): ActiveX SnapshotViewer and IE In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <01c101c8e101$1c0cb1b0$0301a8c0@HAL9005> "only" 2000, 2002, & 2003? Well, that comforting. Rocky Smolin Beach Access Software 858-259-4334 www.e-z-mrp.com www.bchacc.com -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gustav Brock Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2008 2:50 AM To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: [AccessD] Microsoft Security Advisory (955179): ActiveX SnapshotViewer and IE Hi all This is out: http://www.microsoft.com/technet/security/advisory/955179.mspx Vulnerability in the ActiveX Control for the Snapshot Viewer for Microsoft Access Could Allow Remote Code Execution The vulnerability only affects the ActiveX control for the Snapshot Viewer for Microsoft Office Access 2000, Microsoft Office Access 2002, and Microsoft Office Access 2003. /gustav -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From jwelz at hotmail.com Tue Jul 8 08:50:35 2008 From: jwelz at hotmail.com (Jurgen Welz) Date: Tue, 8 Jul 2008 07:50:35 -0600 Subject: [AccessD] Same tables, Different data source (ODBC) In-Reply-To: <0K3N0033XU9ZE0E3@vms042.mailsrvcs.net> References: <23ECCC09839328418BDA4A81BCF7537730980E@ndc-mail-srv1.nana.corp> <0K3N0033XU9ZE0E3@vms042.mailsrvcs.net> Message-ID: I used Jennifer's approach for years. I had users who had laptops who would connect to the server data when they were in the office and local lap top data when they were away. I had a procedure that checked to see if the server environment was available. If it was, it checked the connect string of a particular table. If the server is available and the current link points to the C drive, then the active tables are renamed with a prefix and the inactive tables are stripped of a different prefix. The renaming function: Private Sub ReNamer(strSetInActive As String, strSetActive As String) On Error GoTo ErrorHandler Dim A As Variant Dim lngI As Long A = Array("tblCompany", "tblCompanyContact", "tblContact", "tblDistance", _ "tblEmployee", "tblEmployeeCourse", "tblEquipment", "tblEstimate", _ "tblProjectArchitect", "tblProjectChange", "tblProjectCompetitor", _ "tblProjectEngineer", "tblProjectEquipment", "tblProjectInvoice", _ "tblProjectSubContractor", "tblProjectSubContractorChange", _ "tblProjectSupplier", "tblProvince", "tblRegion", "tblSafetyCourse") DoCmd.Hourglass True For lngI = 0 To UBound(A) DB.TableDefs(A(lngI)).Name = strSetInActive & gDB.TableDefs(A(lngI)).Name DB.TableDefs(strSetActive & A(lngI)).Name = Mid$(gDB.TableDefs(strSetActive & A(lngI)).Name, 8) Next ExitRoutine: On Error Resume Next Set DB = Nothing DoCmd.Hourglass False Exit Sub ErrorHandler: With Err Select Case .Number Case Else MsgBox .Number & vbCrLf & .Description, vbInformation, "Error - " & _ "modStart.ReNamer" End Select End With 'Resume 0 Resume ExitRoutine End Sub The caller: Private Sub InitializeLinks() Dim strConnect As String Dim strPrefix As String Set DB = CurrentDb strConnect = DB.TableDefs("tblCompany").Connect If Mid$(strConnect, 11, 1) = "C" Then strPrefix = "usysLap" Else strPrefix = "usysSrv" End If If fnServerAvailable Then If strPrefix = "usysLap" Then ReNamer strPrefix, "usysSrv" End If Else If strPrefix = "usysSrv" Then ReNamer strPrefix, "usysLap" End If End Sub I used an array of names which turned out to be the quickest way to limit the tables to be switched. The initialize links procedure ran at startup in far less time than the most optimized relinking procedures, especially when you switched ODBC linked tables. We're talking .01 seconds vs 2 minutes. This approach requires you to link to multiple sets of tables, each with a unique prefix. I could, for example, when I am connected to the server, deliberately connect to a local copy of the data just by running the following code: ReNamer "usysSrv", "usysLap" The effect of the approach is also to hide the currently inactive set of tables from the database window unless you have your properties set to show hidden or system tables. The usys prefix identifies the tables as system tables so they are ordinarily not visible. My actual array of tables was somewhat larger, on the order of 150 tables, and the code still took only a tiny fraction of a second to change environments. It would be easy enough to set up with additional sets of intermittently active sets of tables. Ciao J?rgen Welz Edmonton, Alberta jwelz at hotmail.com > Date: Mon, 7 Jul 2008 16:48:35 -0800 > From: jengross at gte.net > To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com > Subject: Re: [AccessD] Same tables, Different data source (ODBC) > > Hi Mark, > > Am I understanding correctly that during development you either will not, or > chose not to be connected to the live Oracle tables, but in your test or > development environment you have re-created those tables in another format > so that you can work with them? > > If that is the case then I have a database that connects to Oracle, do not > have that connection during development or testing and what I've done is > fairly simple (read lame). I have the Oracle connected table and the Access > linked table, both with the same name, except whichever table is NOT live at > the time I put one or two underscores after the name. When I post an update > to the live environment I put the underscore(s) on the Access linked table > names and remove them from the Oracle connected tables. > > I am anxious to hear what others have to say because I have been meaning to > streamline this process into code for a while now. > > Jennifer > > -----Original Message----- > From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Mark Porter > Sent: Monday, July 07, 2008 2:50 PM > To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com > Subject: [AccessD] Same tables, Different data source (ODBC) > > I have an app that links to tables in an Oracle DB. I'd like to be able to > quickly change that environment from the Dev to the Test or Prod (the tables > linked will stay the same). > > > > Does anyone have any code or techniques to do this quickly? > > > > Thanks in advance, > > > > Mark Porter > > Sr. Technologist > > Nana Development Corp. > > Desk: 907-265-4156 > > Fax: 907-343-5656 > > > > > > -- > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > > -- > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com _________________________________________________________________ Try Chicktionary, a game that tests how many words you can form from the letters given. Find this and more puzzles at Live Search Games! http://g.msn.ca/ca55/207 From mmattys at rochester.rr.com Tue Jul 8 09:17:22 2008 From: mmattys at rochester.rr.com (Michael R Mattys) Date: Tue, 8 Jul 2008 10:17:22 -0400 Subject: [AccessD] Microsoft Security Advisory (955179): ActiveXSnapshotViewer and IE References: <01c101c8e101$1c0cb1b0$0301a8c0@HAL9005> Message-ID: <026301c8e105$5844a940$0302a8c0@Laptop> Why don't I want remote code execution? Sounds fine to me! Michael R. Mattys MapPoint & Access Dev www.mattysconsulting.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rocky Smolin at Beach Access Software" To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'" Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2008 9:47 AM Subject: Re: [AccessD] Microsoft Security Advisory (955179): ActiveXSnapshotViewer and IE > > "only" 2000, 2002, & 2003? Well, that comforting. > > Rocky Smolin > Beach Access Software > 858-259-4334 > www.e-z-mrp.com > www.bchacc.com > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gustav Brock > Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2008 2:50 AM > To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com > Subject: [AccessD] Microsoft Security Advisory (955179): ActiveX > SnapshotViewer and IE > > Hi all > > This is out: > > http://www.microsoft.com/technet/security/advisory/955179.mspx > > Vulnerability in the ActiveX Control for the Snapshot Viewer for Microsoft > Access Could Allow Remote Code Execution > > The vulnerability only affects the ActiveX control for the Snapshot Viewer > for Microsoft Office Access 2000, Microsoft Office Access 2002, and > Microsoft Office Access 2003. > > /gustav From cfoust at infostatsystems.com Tue Jul 8 09:42:29 2008 From: cfoust at infostatsystems.com (Charlotte Foust) Date: Tue, 8 Jul 2008 07:42:29 -0700 Subject: [AccessD] Microsoft Security Advisory (955179):ActiveXSnapshotViewer and IE In-Reply-To: <026301c8e105$5844a940$0302a8c0@Laptop> References: <01c101c8e101$1c0cb1b0$0301a8c0@HAL9005> <026301c8e105$5844a940$0302a8c0@Laptop> Message-ID: Only if it's YOU doing it. Somehow, I don't think that's what they're worried about. LOL Charlotte Foust -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Michael R Mattys Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2008 7:17 AM To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving Subject: Re: [AccessD] Microsoft Security Advisory (955179):ActiveXSnapshotViewer and IE Why don't I want remote code execution? Sounds fine to me! Michael R. Mattys MapPoint & Access Dev www.mattysconsulting.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rocky Smolin at Beach Access Software" To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'" Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2008 9:47 AM Subject: Re: [AccessD] Microsoft Security Advisory (955179): ActiveXSnapshotViewer and IE > > "only" 2000, 2002, & 2003? Well, that comforting. > > Rocky Smolin > Beach Access Software > 858-259-4334 > www.e-z-mrp.com > www.bchacc.com > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gustav Brock > Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2008 2:50 AM > To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com > Subject: [AccessD] Microsoft Security Advisory (955179): ActiveX > SnapshotViewer and IE > > Hi all > > This is out: > > http://www.microsoft.com/technet/security/advisory/955179.mspx > > Vulnerability in the ActiveX Control for the Snapshot Viewer for Microsoft > Access Could Allow Remote Code Execution > > The vulnerability only affects the ActiveX control for the Snapshot Viewer > for Microsoft Office Access 2000, Microsoft Office Access 2002, and > Microsoft Office Access 2003. > > /gustav -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From pedro at plex.nl Tue Jul 8 10:03:43 2008 From: pedro at plex.nl (Pedro Janssen) Date: Tue, 8 Jul 2008 17:03:43 +0200 Subject: [AccessD] delete data in form Message-ID: <002c01c8e10b$d1d387d0$400aa8c0@qmotionfaa3ad9> Dear AccessD members, its has been a long time ago since i asked for your help, but now i need it. I have a form on which i do some calculations. After the calculation, i want to delete the data with a deletequery through a macro. But when i have done that in the textbox the text: #Deleted# is shown. I have tried to refresh the form, with no result. Because of that i now, delete the data and close and re-open the form, by the code below. Sometimes however the inputfield are empty, and sometimes they aren't. How is that possible. Or is there a better way to do this. Thanks Pedro Janssen Private Sub cmdDelete_Click() On Error GoTo Err_cmdDelete_Click Dim stDocName As String Dim stLinkCriteria As String stDocName = "mcrDelete" DoCmd.RunMacro stDocName DoCmd.Close stDocName = "frmBerekenen" DoCmd.OpenForm stDocName, , , stLinkCriteria Exit_cmdDelete_Click: Exit Sub Err_cmdDelete_Click: MsgBox Err.Description Resume Exit_cmdDelete_Click End Sub From rockysmolin at bchacc.com Tue Jul 8 11:08:58 2008 From: rockysmolin at bchacc.com (Rocky Smolin at Beach Access Software) Date: Tue, 8 Jul 2008 09:08:58 -0700 Subject: [AccessD] delete data in form In-Reply-To: <002c01c8e10b$d1d387d0$400aa8c0@qmotionfaa3ad9> References: <002c01c8e10b$d1d387d0$400aa8c0@qmotionfaa3ad9> Message-ID: <01e101c8e114$ee4935f0$0301a8c0@HAL9005> Try Me.Requery. Rocky Smolin Beach Access Software 858-259-4334 www.e-z-mrp.com www.bchacc.com -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Pedro Janssen Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2008 8:04 AM To: AccessD Subject: [AccessD] delete data in form Dear AccessD members, its has been a long time ago since i asked for your help, but now i need it. I have a form on which i do some calculations. After the calculation, i want to delete the data with a deletequery through a macro. But when i have done that in the textbox the text: #Deleted# is shown. I have tried to refresh the form, with no result. Because of that i now, delete the data and close and re-open the form, by the code below. Sometimes however the inputfield are empty, and sometimes they aren't. How is that possible. Or is there a better way to do this. Thanks Pedro Janssen Private Sub cmdDelete_Click() On Error GoTo Err_cmdDelete_Click Dim stDocName As String Dim stLinkCriteria As String stDocName = "mcrDelete" DoCmd.RunMacro stDocName DoCmd.Close stDocName = "frmBerekenen" DoCmd.OpenForm stDocName, , , stLinkCriteria Exit_cmdDelete_Click: Exit Sub Err_cmdDelete_Click: MsgBox Err.Description Resume Exit_cmdDelete_Click End Sub -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From jengross at gte.net Tue Jul 8 12:33:05 2008 From: jengross at gte.net (Jennifer Gross) Date: Tue, 08 Jul 2008 09:33:05 -0800 Subject: [AccessD] delete data in form In-Reply-To: <002c01c8e10b$d1d387d0$400aa8c0@qmotionfaa3ad9> Message-ID: <0K3P00EYY4SN5RG7@vms173001.mailsrvcs.net> It sounds to me like you are adding a record to a table just to do some calculations, then you are deleting the record from the table. If you are not wanting to save anything, why not used unbound controls? Jennifer -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Pedro Janssen Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2008 7:04 AM To: AccessD Subject: [AccessD] delete data in form Dear AccessD members, its has been a long time ago since i asked for your help, but now i need it. I have a form on which i do some calculations. After the calculation, i want to delete the data with a deletequery through a macro. But when i have done that in the textbox the text: #Deleted# is shown. I have tried to refresh the form, with no result. Because of that i now, delete the data and close and re-open the form, by the code below. Sometimes however the inputfield are empty, and sometimes they aren't. How is that possible. Or is there a better way to do this. Thanks Pedro Janssen Private Sub cmdDelete_Click() On Error GoTo Err_cmdDelete_Click Dim stDocName As String Dim stLinkCriteria As String stDocName = "mcrDelete" DoCmd.RunMacro stDocName DoCmd.Close stDocName = "frmBerekenen" DoCmd.OpenForm stDocName, , , stLinkCriteria Exit_cmdDelete_Click: Exit Sub Err_cmdDelete_Click: MsgBox Err.Description Resume Exit_cmdDelete_Click End Sub -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From pedro at plex.nl Tue Jul 8 12:02:08 2008 From: pedro at plex.nl (Pedro Janssen) Date: Tue, 8 Jul 2008 19:02:08 +0200 Subject: [AccessD] delete data in form References: <002c01c8e10b$d1d387d0$400aa8c0@qmotionfaa3ad9> <01e101c8e114$ee4935f0$0301a8c0@HAL9005> Message-ID: <001101c8e11c$5afea1b0$400aa8c0@qmotionfaa3ad9> I did, no result Thanks Pedro ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rocky Smolin at Beach Access Software" To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'" Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2008 6:08 PM Subject: Re: [AccessD] delete data in form > Try Me.Requery. > > > > > Rocky Smolin > Beach Access Software > 858-259-4334 > www.e-z-mrp.com > www.bchacc.com > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Pedro Janssen > Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2008 8:04 AM > To: AccessD > Subject: [AccessD] delete data in form > > Dear AccessD members, > > its has been a long time ago since i asked for your help, but now i need > it. > > I have a form on which i do some calculations. > After the calculation, i want to delete the data with a deletequery > through > a macro. But when i have done that in the textbox the text: #Deleted# is > shown. > I have tried to refresh the form, with no result. > Because of that i now, delete the data and close and re-open the form, by > the code below. > Sometimes however the inputfield are empty, and sometimes they aren't. > How is that possible. > > Or is there a better way to do this. > > > Thanks > > Pedro Janssen > > > > Private Sub cmdDelete_Click() > On Error GoTo Err_cmdDelete_Click > > Dim stDocName As String > Dim stLinkCriteria As String > > stDocName = "mcrDelete" > DoCmd.RunMacro stDocName > > DoCmd.Close > > stDocName = "frmBerekenen" > DoCmd.OpenForm stDocName, , , stLinkCriteria > > > > Exit_cmdDelete_Click: > Exit Sub > > Err_cmdDelete_Click: > MsgBox Err.Description > Resume Exit_cmdDelete_Click > > End Sub > -- > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > -- > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > From pedro at plex.nl Tue Jul 8 12:04:48 2008 From: pedro at plex.nl (Pedro Janssen) Date: Tue, 8 Jul 2008 19:04:48 +0200 Subject: [AccessD] delete data in form References: <0K3P00EYY4SN5RG7@vms173001.mailsrvcs.net> Message-ID: <001201c8e11c$bab72dc0$400aa8c0@qmotionfaa3ad9> Jennifer, you are right, but i want also the possiblity to save the primary data. Pedro ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jennifer Gross" To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'" Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2008 7:33 PM Subject: Re: [AccessD] delete data in form > It sounds to me like you are adding a record to a table just to do some > calculations, then you are deleting the record from the table. If you are > not wanting to save anything, why not used unbound controls? > > Jennifer > > -----Original Message----- > From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Pedro Janssen > Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2008 7:04 AM > To: AccessD > Subject: [AccessD] delete data in form > > Dear AccessD members, > > its has been a long time ago since i asked for your help, but now i need > it. > > I have a form on which i do some calculations. > After the calculation, i want to delete the data with a deletequery > through > a macro. But when i have done that in the textbox the text: #Deleted# is > shown. > I have tried to refresh the form, with no result. > Because of that i now, delete the data and close and re-open the form, by > the code below. > Sometimes however the inputfield are empty, and sometimes they aren't. > How is that possible. > > Or is there a better way to do this. > > > Thanks > > Pedro Janssen > > > > Private Sub cmdDelete_Click() > On Error GoTo Err_cmdDelete_Click > > Dim stDocName As String > Dim stLinkCriteria As String > > stDocName = "mcrDelete" > DoCmd.RunMacro stDocName > > DoCmd.Close > > stDocName = "frmBerekenen" > DoCmd.OpenForm stDocName, , , stLinkCriteria > > > > Exit_cmdDelete_Click: > Exit Sub > > Err_cmdDelete_Click: > MsgBox Err.Description > Resume Exit_cmdDelete_Click > > End Sub > -- > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > > -- > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > From jengross at gte.net Tue Jul 8 13:24:45 2008 From: jengross at gte.net (Jennifer Gross) Date: Tue, 08 Jul 2008 10:24:45 -0800 Subject: [AccessD] delete data in form In-Reply-To: <001201c8e11c$bab72dc0$400aa8c0@qmotionfaa3ad9> Message-ID: <0K3P00BOB76BDSQ2@vms044.mailsrvcs.net> If you are deleting the current record, rather than using a query, how about using DoCmd.RunCommand aCmdDeleteRecord. Jennifer -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Pedro Janssen Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2008 9:05 AM To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving Subject: Re: [AccessD] delete data in form Jennifer, you are right, but i want also the possiblity to save the primary data. Pedro ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jennifer Gross" To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'" Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2008 7:33 PM Subject: Re: [AccessD] delete data in form > It sounds to me like you are adding a record to a table just to do some > calculations, then you are deleting the record from the table. If you are > not wanting to save anything, why not used unbound controls? > > Jennifer > > -----Original Message----- > From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Pedro Janssen > Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2008 7:04 AM > To: AccessD > Subject: [AccessD] delete data in form > > Dear AccessD members, > > its has been a long time ago since i asked for your help, but now i need > it. > > I have a form on which i do some calculations. > After the calculation, i want to delete the data with a deletequery > through > a macro. But when i have done that in the textbox the text: #Deleted# is > shown. > I have tried to refresh the form, with no result. > Because of that i now, delete the data and close and re-open the form, by > the code below. > Sometimes however the inputfield are empty, and sometimes they aren't. > How is that possible. > > Or is there a better way to do this. > > > Thanks > > Pedro Janssen > > > > Private Sub cmdDelete_Click() > On Error GoTo Err_cmdDelete_Click > > Dim stDocName As String > Dim stLinkCriteria As String > > stDocName = "mcrDelete" > DoCmd.RunMacro stDocName > > DoCmd.Close > > stDocName = "frmBerekenen" > DoCmd.OpenForm stDocName, , , stLinkCriteria > > > > Exit_cmdDelete_Click: > Exit Sub > > Err_cmdDelete_Click: > MsgBox Err.Description > Resume Exit_cmdDelete_Click > > End Sub > -- > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > > -- > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From rockysmolin at bchacc.com Tue Jul 8 12:33:56 2008 From: rockysmolin at bchacc.com (Rocky Smolin at Beach Access Software) Date: Tue, 8 Jul 2008 10:33:56 -0700 Subject: [AccessD] Email Signatures Message-ID: <004201c8e120$cce98c00$0301a8c0@HAL9005> Dear List: In a legacy app there are two places where the user can generate an email to the client. IN both of these places the code is identical: CreateOutlookEmail_MailTo varSubject:=strSubject, varTo:=strEmailAddressesTo, varCC:=strEmailAddressesCc, _ varBCC:=strEmailAddressesBcc, varMessage:=strWholeStory where I've set up the TO, Cc, and Bcc addresses in the strings. The sub is: Public Function CreateOutlookEmail_MailTo(Optional varSubject As Variant, Optional varTo As Variant, _ Optional varCC As Variant, Optional varBCC As Variant, _ Optional varMessage As Variant, Optional varAttachmentPath As Variant) As Boolean 'Creates an Outlook e-mail for the user to send. 'This method is the same as the MailTo method, which does not involve the Outlook security prompt. '1/12/07 When I call this email function from one form the email generated includes the default signature which I have set up in Outlook. When I call it from the other form, there's no signature. Code's identical (seemingly). Any ideas on why the difference? MTIA, Rocky Smolin Beach Access Software 858-259-4334 www.e-z-mrp.com www.bchacc.com From pedro at plex.nl Tue Jul 8 14:51:38 2008 From: pedro at plex.nl (Pedro Janssen) Date: Tue, 8 Jul 2008 21:51:38 +0200 Subject: [AccessD] delete data in form References: <0K3P00BOB76BDSQ2@vms044.mailsrvcs.net> Message-ID: <000a01c8e134$093004b0$400aa8c0@qmotionfaa3ad9> I haven't thought about that. I will try this. Thanks Pedro ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jennifer Gross" To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'" Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2008 8:24 PM Subject: Re: [AccessD] delete data in form > If you are deleting the current record, rather than using a query, how > about > using DoCmd.RunCommand aCmdDeleteRecord. > > Jennifer > > -----Original Message----- > From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Pedro Janssen > Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2008 9:05 AM > To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving > Subject: Re: [AccessD] delete data in form > > Jennifer, > > you are right, > but i want also the possiblity to save the primary data. > > Pedro > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Jennifer Gross" > To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'" > > Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2008 7:33 PM > Subject: Re: [AccessD] delete data in form > > >> It sounds to me like you are adding a record to a table just to do some >> calculations, then you are deleting the record from the table. If you >> are >> not wanting to save anything, why not used unbound controls? >> >> Jennifer >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com >> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Pedro Janssen >> Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2008 7:04 AM >> To: AccessD >> Subject: [AccessD] delete data in form >> >> Dear AccessD members, >> >> its has been a long time ago since i asked for your help, but now i need >> it. >> >> I have a form on which i do some calculations. >> After the calculation, i want to delete the data with a deletequery >> through >> a macro. But when i have done that in the textbox the text: #Deleted# is >> shown. >> I have tried to refresh the form, with no result. >> Because of that i now, delete the data and close and re-open the form, by >> the code below. >> Sometimes however the inputfield are empty, and sometimes they aren't. >> How is that possible. >> >> Or is there a better way to do this. >> >> >> Thanks >> >> Pedro Janssen >> >> >> >> Private Sub cmdDelete_Click() >> On Error GoTo Err_cmdDelete_Click >> >> Dim stDocName As String >> Dim stLinkCriteria As String >> >> stDocName = "mcrDelete" >> DoCmd.RunMacro stDocName >> >> DoCmd.Close >> >> stDocName = "frmBerekenen" >> DoCmd.OpenForm stDocName, , , stLinkCriteria >> >> >> >> Exit_cmdDelete_Click: >> Exit Sub >> >> Err_cmdDelete_Click: >> MsgBox Err.Description >> Resume Exit_cmdDelete_Click >> >> End Sub >> -- >> AccessD mailing list >> AccessD at databaseadvisors.com >> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd >> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com >> >> >> -- >> AccessD mailing list >> AccessD at databaseadvisors.com >> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd >> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com >> > > -- > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > > -- > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > From Darryl.Collins at coles.com.au Tue Jul 8 21:42:27 2008 From: Darryl.Collins at coles.com.au (Darryl Collins) Date: Wed, 9 Jul 2008 12:42:27 +1000 Subject: [AccessD] Email Signatures In-Reply-To: <004201c8e120$cce98c00$0301a8c0@HAL9005> Message-ID: <57E6E6CA42105A48B977303A2CDC2720076BF12CF7@WPEXCH22.retail.ad.cmltd.net.au> Rocky, I think it may have something to do with how Outlook is called. I know if right mouse click something and attach it as a file or whatever, the email window that outlook calls does NOT have any sig details etc, but using the "email > New Email" route does have the sig. I did read a thread about how to get around this using API calls - I think it was on the Excel list. Anyway, apparently it depends on how you call outlook, using one method the sigs will work, and some other ways it does not. Not really helpful at this point I know, but at least you know you are not going mad or something! see what i can did up. cheers Darryl. -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Rocky Smolin at Beach Access Software Sent: Wednesday, 9 July 2008 3:34 AM To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' Subject: [AccessD] Email Signatures Dear List: In a legacy app there are two places where the user can generate an email to the client. IN both of these places the code is identical: CreateOutlookEmail_MailTo varSubject:=strSubject, varTo:=strEmailAddressesTo, varCC:=strEmailAddressesCc, _ varBCC:=strEmailAddressesBcc, varMessage:=strWholeStory where I've set up the TO, Cc, and Bcc addresses in the strings. The sub is: Public Function CreateOutlookEmail_MailTo(Optional varSubject As Variant, Optional varTo As Variant, _ Optional varCC As Variant, Optional varBCC As Variant, _ Optional varMessage As Variant, Optional varAttachmentPath As Variant) As Boolean 'Creates an Outlook e-mail for the user to send. 'This method is the same as the MailTo method, which does not involve the Outlook security prompt. '1/12/07 When I call this email function from one form the email generated includes the default signature which I have set up in Outlook. When I call it from the other form, there's no signature. Code's identical (seemingly). Any ideas on why the difference? MTIA, Rocky Smolin Beach Access Software 858-259-4334 www.e-z-mrp.com www.bchacc.com -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com This email and any attachments may contain privileged and confidential information and are intended for the named addressee only. If you have received this e-mail in error, please notify the sender and delete this e-mail immediately. Any confidentiality, privilege or copyright is not waived or lost because this e-mail has been sent to you in error. It is your responsibility to check this e-mail and any attachments for viruses. No warranty is made that this material is free from computer virus or any other defect or error. Any loss/damage incurred by using this material is not the sender's responsibility. The sender's entire liability will be limited to resupplying the material. From Darryl.Collins at coles.com.au Tue Jul 8 22:17:52 2008 From: Darryl.Collins at coles.com.au (Darryl Collins) Date: Wed, 9 Jul 2008 13:17:52 +1000 Subject: [AccessD] Email Signatures In-Reply-To: <004201c8e120$cce98c00$0301a8c0@HAL9005> Message-ID: <57E6E6CA42105A48B977303A2CDC2720076BF12CFA@WPEXCH22.retail.ad.cmltd.net.au> Not that useful, but maybe it can help... I wish I could find that damn code that dealt with this.... sheeesh! anyway, found some stuff on the Excel L and G archives. '=========================================================================================== When the message comes up, can you use Insert - Signature - YourSig? This works in XP. -----Original Message----- From: Vera Hawkins [mailto:VHawkins at BLACKMORES.COM.AU] Sent: Tuesday, February 22, 2005 6:28 PM To: EXCEL-G at PEACH.EASE.LSOFT.COM Subject: Excel 2003 - Adding signature to emailing workbook In Excel 2000 we were able to use our automatic signature when emailing workbooks from Excel. This does not seem to be available in 2003. In Excel when we go to File | Send To | Mail Recipient as Attachment, the dialog box comes up with the current workbook as an attachment but no signature. This is the signature which appears in a new email message in Outlook which has our name, title and other stuff. Does anyone know if this is possible or have some code to automatically add a signature? Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks and regards Vera Hawkins '=========================================================================================== OR Gareth, it might have changed in later versions (I use Outlook 97) but I don't think you can add the signature automatically. 2 workarounds use .show instead of .send so that the user can manually add the sig from the menu. Alternatively add the signature to the body text. .body = .body & mysigstr where mysigstr is either a previously set string or if you enclose it in quotes can be the actual text of the signature. You will have to use & char(13) & for a carriage return and replace 13 with 9 for a tab. hth Martin '=========================================================================================== -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Rocky Smolin at Beach Access Software Sent: Wednesday, 9 July 2008 3:34 AM To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' Subject: [AccessD] Email Signatures Dear List: In a legacy app there are two places where the user can generate an email to the client. IN both of these places the code is identical: CreateOutlookEmail_MailTo varSubject:=strSubject, varTo:=strEmailAddressesTo, varCC:=strEmailAddressesCc, _ varBCC:=strEmailAddressesBcc, varMessage:=strWholeStory where I've set up the TO, Cc, and Bcc addresses in the strings. The sub is: Public Function CreateOutlookEmail_MailTo(Optional varSubject As Variant, Optional varTo As Variant, _ Optional varCC As Variant, Optional varBCC As Variant, _ Optional varMessage As Variant, Optional varAttachmentPath As Variant) As Boolean 'Creates an Outlook e-mail for the user to send. 'This method is the same as the MailTo method, which does not involve the Outlook security prompt. '1/12/07 When I call this email function from one form the email generated includes the default signature which I have set up in Outlook. When I call it from the other form, there's no signature. Code's identical (seemingly). Any ideas on why the difference? MTIA, Rocky Smolin Beach Access Software 858-259-4334 www.e-z-mrp.com www.bchacc.com -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com This email and any attachments may contain privileged and confidential information and are intended for the named addressee only. If you have received this e-mail in error, please notify the sender and delete this e-mail immediately. Any confidentiality, privilege or copyright is not waived or lost because this e-mail has been sent to you in error. It is your responsibility to check this e-mail and any attachments for viruses. No warranty is made that this material is free from computer virus or any other defect or error. Any loss/damage incurred by using this material is not the sender's responsibility. The sender's entire liability will be limited to resupplying the material. From rockysmolin at bchacc.com Tue Jul 8 23:22:29 2008 From: rockysmolin at bchacc.com (Rocky Smolin at Beach Access Software) Date: Tue, 8 Jul 2008 21:22:29 -0700 Subject: [AccessD] Email Signatures In-Reply-To: <57E6E6CA42105A48B977303A2CDC2720076BF12CF7@WPEXCH22.retail.ad.cmltd.net.au> References: <004201c8e120$cce98c00$0301a8c0@HAL9005> <57E6E6CA42105A48B977303A2CDC2720076BF12CF7@WPEXCH22.retail.ad.cmltd.net.au> Message-ID: <00be01c8e17b$66e2dd70$0301a8c0@HAL9005> Darryl: The calls to the sub are identical and, of course, both cal run the same sub. That's what's making me crazy. Rocky Smolin Beach Access Software 858-259-4334 www.e-z-mrp.com www.bchacc.com -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Darryl Collins Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2008 7:42 PM To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' Subject: Re: [AccessD] Email Signatures Rocky, I think it may have something to do with how Outlook is called. I know if right mouse click something and attach it as a file or whatever, the email window that outlook calls does NOT have any sig details etc, but using the "email > New Email" route does have the sig. I did read a thread about how to get around this using API calls - I think it was on the Excel list. Anyway, apparently it depends on how you call outlook, using one method the sigs will work, and some other ways it does not. Not really helpful at this point I know, but at least you know you are not going mad or something! see what i can did up. cheers Darryl. -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Rocky Smolin at Beach Access Software Sent: Wednesday, 9 July 2008 3:34 AM To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' Subject: [AccessD] Email Signatures Dear List: In a legacy app there are two places where the user can generate an email to the client. IN both of these places the code is identical: CreateOutlookEmail_MailTo varSubject:=strSubject, varTo:=strEmailAddressesTo, varCC:=strEmailAddressesCc, _ varBCC:=strEmailAddressesBcc, varMessage:=strWholeStory where I've set up the TO, Cc, and Bcc addresses in the strings. The sub is: Public Function CreateOutlookEmail_MailTo(Optional varSubject As Variant, Optional varTo As Variant, _ Optional varCC As Variant, Optional varBCC As Variant, _ Optional varMessage As Variant, Optional varAttachmentPath As Variant) As Boolean 'Creates an Outlook e-mail for the user to send. 'This method is the same as the MailTo method, which does not involve the Outlook security prompt. '1/12/07 When I call this email function from one form the email generated includes the default signature which I have set up in Outlook. When I call it from the other form, there's no signature. Code's identical (seemingly). Any ideas on why the difference? MTIA, Rocky Smolin Beach Access Software 858-259-4334 www.e-z-mrp.com www.bchacc.com -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com This email and any attachments may contain privileged and confidential information and are intended for the named addressee only. If you have received this e-mail in error, please notify the sender and delete this e-mail immediately. Any confidentiality, privilege or copyright is not waived or lost because this e-mail has been sent to you in error. It is your responsibility to check this e-mail and any attachments for viruses. No warranty is made that this material is free from computer virus or any other defect or error. Any loss/damage incurred by using this material is not the sender's responsibility. The sender's entire liability will be limited to resupplying the material. -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From John.Clark at niagaracounty.com Wed Jul 9 08:11:47 2008 From: John.Clark at niagaracounty.com (John Clark) Date: Wed, 09 Jul 2008 09:11:47 -0400 Subject: [AccessD] Missing library? REVISITED In-Reply-To: <486CA30A.167F.006B.0@niagaracounty.com> References: <486B6867.5090704@nanaimo.ark.com> <486B75BB.50707@nanaimo.ark.com><486B85F0.7000104@nanaimo.ark.com> <486B8282.167F.006B.0@niagaracounty.com> <486CA30A.167F.006B.0@niagaracounty.com> Message-ID: <487480D1.167F.006B.0@niagaracounty.com> I am still having issues w/the program I asked for help on last week. My schedule hasn't allowed me to work on this an more than I have, but I do have a our head technician working on it w/me...actually he has pretty much taken over most of the leg work, and I am consulting w/him. To rehash and update the problem, we gave new computers to our Risk Management department, and since the move, there Case Management System, which was written in A97 is not working. It errors out..."compile error"...on the "format" and "mid" statements (although just "format" has been coming up lately). These new PCs were loaded w/Office 2007, before being placed on the desktop, and A97 was loaded on-site. So, I figured it had to be an issue w/A97 playing well w/A07...I had a problem myself, earlier this year, and I had to setup a virtual machine, on my computer, so that I could use my A97 for our older programs. Now, yesterday, I tried running this PC, from my virtual PC, and I get the compile errors there too. There is one untouched PC, at the Risk dept, so I stopped by there yesterday, while our for lunch, to see how this was setup...what references it had. It had three...in order..."Visual Basic Applications", "Microsoft Access 8.0 object library", and "Microsoft DAO 3.51 object library." Mine had these three, in the same order, w/an extra one "Office 8.0" between the 2nd and 3rd ones. I deleted this extra to no avail. We took one of the new PCs and wiped it away, and put it back to out-of-the-box condition. We reloaded A97, and still got the error...not really a surprise, considering I got it too, although I really did think this was going to fix it, when we started out on this endeavor. The tech is now dealing w/an "our of memory" error...it is a new PC w/2 GB of memory, so he has some updates to do...although I don't understand how the other techs didn't run into this problem. For the time being, we have returned the worker's old PC to her, and it is all working. I am having a told-you-so opportunity, because, this department...and my boss...went behind my back and hired an external programmer to create this program, and now we're having issues, while none of mine, old or new, have any major problems. This guy used workgroups, which is something I do not use...I manage everything through Novell rights...there is no need, in our scenario, for different rights...you either have access to the program or you don't. I do not work w/workgroups, so I don't know what problems I'll have updating this, if I need to...and it is looking like I may need to. Maybe this is something I should try. Will I have problems updating an A97 program, using workgroups, to a higher version...probably 2003? Or, how can I tell what references I need...if this is truly a reference problem? John W. Clark Information Technology Technician Niagara County Central Data Processing >>> "John Clark" 7/3/2008 9:59 AM >>> Alright...so A97 and A07 WILL play together? I left about a half-hour after my last post, because I had to get back to the office. But, it was on my mind last night, and I swear I must have dreamt about it, because I was pretty convinced, when I came in this morning, that it was an issue between these two versions. I remember reading a bunch of posts, complaining about similar issues. And, personally, we could NOT get my A97 to work, on my PC...my PC was "redone" by our technicians, while I was off w/my knee surgery, and I needed several versions of Access installed. They got 07 and 03 to work together, but for A97 we needed to setup a virtual drive, on my PC. Everything was fine w/this program, before a couple of our younger techs went into this department and swapped out 4 or their 5 PCs. The program still works on the one PC that wasn't touched. So, I had them in my office this morning, and I asked them, along w/their supervisor, if they could "dial these PCs back" and remove 07. I requested that they put A03 and A97 on the PCs instead. I may run over to see these clients this morning. It is only about 1 mile across town, and it'll get me away from my desk. So I can check the order of the references, according to what you've provided. I don't remember exactly all that was loaded, but I was having problems changing the priority of them...it only let me do so much. The top three, if I am reading my notes correctly, were "Visual Basic for Applications" (VBA332.dll), "Microsoft Access 8.0 Object Library" (MSACC8.olb), and "Microsoft DAO 3.51 Object Library" (DAO350.DLL), and it didn't seem that I could alter this order at all. Further down the list was "dao360.dll," and I'm wondering if this is the 3.6 that your talking about...but, I couldn't move this up any higher. This program has been a PITA to me...it was written by an "external" programmer and he didn't follow my rules. Also, he "protected" it and I keep running into road-blocks. I've been doing another job, for the past couple of months...we had a person leave and I inherited their duties, so I've had little time for things like this. So, I don't have a bunch of time to devote to this problem...if I don't fix it by lunch, I'll probably have them blow one away, put it back to scratch, and see if the problem disappears. John W. Clark Information Technology Technician Niagara County Central Data Processing >>> "William Hindman" 7/2/2008 3:38 PM >>> ...you need the Dao 3.6 but ado is installed by default iirc ...and the Dao reference must be ahead of the ado ref in the list ...and if the A97 app was converted from an earlier version you may need the Dao 3.5 compatibility dll as well ...open a code module and then tool/references ...if its grayed out you may have to use the ms tool to do a clean uninstall of O2007 first and then reinstall A97. William -------------------------------------------------- From: "John Clark" Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2008 1:28 PM To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving" Subject: [AccessD] Missing library? > I am at client PC, looking at an A97 issue. I think I am missing a > library. This was a new PC, which we had to install A97 on...came w/A07 > > I'm not sure what library I need though...DAO? The commands it is erroring > on are simple ones..."format" "mid" etc. > > I'm not trying to reinstall of A97...any guidance? > > > John W. Clark > Information Technology Technician > Niagara County > Central Data Processing > > -- > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From ssharkins at gmail.com Wed Jul 9 08:19:55 2008 From: ssharkins at gmail.com (Susan Harkins) Date: Wed, 9 Jul 2008 09:19:55 -0400 Subject: [AccessD] Missing library? REVISITED References: <486B6867.5090704@nanaimo.ark.com> <486B75BB.50707@nanaimo.ark.com><486B85F0.7000104@nanaimo.ark.com><486B8282.167F.006B.0@niagaracounty.com><486CA30A.167F.006B.0@niagaracounty.com> <487480D1.167F.006B.0@niagaracounty.com> Message-ID: <00e901c8e1c6$7c78b9c0$2f8601c7@SusanOne> > Or, how can I tell what references I need...if this is truly a reference > problem? ======John, there's an old problem with missing references, and you probably already know about it, so this information probably isn't going to help. In the VBE, choose References from the Tools menu and review the entire list. You're looking for the word "Missing" next to one of your referenced libraries. If you find one with the word "Missing" -- uncheck it, compact and repair, and then reselect it. Susan H. From jimdettman at verizon.net Wed Jul 9 08:36:48 2008 From: jimdettman at verizon.net (Jim Dettman) Date: Wed, 09 Jul 2008 09:36:48 -0400 Subject: [AccessD] Missing library? REVISITED In-Reply-To: <487480D1.167F.006B.0@niagaracounty.com> References: <486B6867.5090704@nanaimo.ark.com> <486B75BB.50707@nanaimo.ark.com><486B85F0.7000104@nanaimo.ark.com> <486B8282.167F.006B.0@niagaracounty.com> <486CA30A.167F.006B.0@niagaracounty.com> <487480D1.167F.006B.0@niagaracounty.com> Message-ID: <000e01c8e1c8$d6f1aa90$8abea8c0@XPS> John, On one of the problem PC's I would: 1. Login with admin rights. 2. Check for multiple copies of DAO351.DLL. Make sure there is only one. 3. Re-register DAO from the command prompt: regsvr32.exe C:\winnt\system32\DAO351.dll Note: Change the path as appropriate. 4. Open A97, create a new MDB. Open a module and go to tools/references. Make sure you have the primary three and make sure none are listed as missing or broken. If they are, you'll need to fix them. If none are, check any unchecked reference (note which). Close the MDB and Access. Re-open and uncheck the reference you just checked. Now do a compile. You should get no errors. 5. Open the debug window and type: Debug.? MID("TEST THIS",4,2) It should work. 6. Now open your app that your having a problem with and try a compile. If it works, stop. If not, go through the check/uncheck process in step 4. If you still have compile errors after that, then it is most likely corruption in the MDB. 7. Take the MDB your created in step 4 and import all the objects into it from the app. Then try a compile. HTH, Jim. -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of John Clark Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2008 9:12 AM To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving Subject: Re: [AccessD] Missing library? REVISITED I am still having issues w/the program I asked for help on last week. My schedule hasn't allowed me to work on this an more than I have, but I do have a our head technician working on it w/me...actually he has pretty much taken over most of the leg work, and I am consulting w/him. To rehash and update the problem, we gave new computers to our Risk Management department, and since the move, there Case Management System, which was written in A97 is not working. It errors out..."compile error"...on the "format" and "mid" statements (although just "format" has been coming up lately). These new PCs were loaded w/Office 2007, before being placed on the desktop, and A97 was loaded on-site. So, I figured it had to be an issue w/A97 playing well w/A07...I had a problem myself, earlier this year, and I had to setup a virtual machine, on my computer, so that I could use my A97 for our older programs. Now, yesterday, I tried running this PC, from my virtual PC, and I get the compile errors there too. There is one untouched PC, at the Risk dept, so I stopped by there yesterday, while our for lunch, to see how this was setup...what references it had. It had three...in order..."Visual Basic Applications", "Microsoft Access 8.0 object library", and "Microsoft DAO 3.51 object library." Mine had these three, in the same order, w/an extra one "Office 8.0" between the 2nd and 3rd ones. I deleted this extra to no avail. We took one of the new PCs and wiped it away, and put it back to out-of-the-box condition. We reloaded A97, and still got the error...not really a surprise, considering I got it too, although I really did think this was going to fix it, when we started out on this endeavor. The tech is now dealing w/an "our of memory" error...it is a new PC w/2 GB of memory, so he has some updates to do...although I don't understand how the other techs didn't run into this problem. For the time being, we have returned the worker's old PC to her, and it is all working. I am having a told-you-so opportunity, because, this department...and my boss...went behind my back and hired an external programmer to create this program, and now we're having issues, while none of mine, old or new, have any major problems. This guy used workgroups, which is something I do not use...I manage everything through Novell rights...there is no need, in our scenario, for different rights...you either have access to the program or you don't. I do not work w/workgroups, so I don't know what problems I'll have updating this, if I need to...and it is looking like I may need to. Maybe this is something I should try. Will I have problems updating an A97 program, using workgroups, to a higher version...probably 2003? Or, how can I tell what references I need...if this is truly a reference problem? John W. Clark Information Technology Technician Niagara County Central Data Processing >>> "John Clark" 7/3/2008 9:59 AM >>> Alright...so A97 and A07 WILL play together? I left about a half-hour after my last post, because I had to get back to the office. But, it was on my mind last night, and I swear I must have dreamt about it, because I was pretty convinced, when I came in this morning, that it was an issue between these two versions. I remember reading a bunch of posts, complaining about similar issues. And, personally, we could NOT get my A97 to work, on my PC...my PC was "redone" by our technicians, while I was off w/my knee surgery, and I needed several versions of Access installed. They got 07 and 03 to work together, but for A97 we needed to setup a virtual drive, on my PC. Everything was fine w/this program, before a couple of our younger techs went into this department and swapped out 4 or their 5 PCs. The program still works on the one PC that wasn't touched. So, I had them in my office this morning, and I asked them, along w/their supervisor, if they could "dial these PCs back" and remove 07. I requested that they put A03 and A97 on the PCs instead. I may run over to see these clients this morning. It is only about 1 mile across town, and it'll get me away from my desk. So I can check the order of the references, according to what you've provided. I don't remember exactly all that was loaded, but I was having problems changing the priority of them...it only let me do so much. The top three, if I am reading my notes correctly, were "Visual Basic for Applications" (VBA332.dll), "Microsoft Access 8.0 Object Library" (MSACC8.olb), and "Microsoft DAO 3.51 Object Library" (DAO350.DLL), and it didn't seem that I could alter this order at all. Further down the list was "dao360.dll," and I'm wondering if this is the 3.6 that your talking about...but, I couldn't move this up any higher. This program has been a PITA to me...it was written by an "external" programmer and he didn't follow my rules. Also, he "protected" it and I keep running into road-blocks. I've been doing another job, for the past couple of months...we had a person leave and I inherited their duties, so I've had little time for things like this. So, I don't have a bunch of time to devote to this problem...if I don't fix it by lunch, I'll probably have them blow one away, put it back to scratch, and see if the problem disappears. John W. Clark Information Technology Technician Niagara County Central Data Processing >>> "William Hindman" 7/2/2008 3:38 PM >>> ...you need the Dao 3.6 but ado is installed by default iirc ...and the Dao reference must be ahead of the ado ref in the list ...and if the A97 app was converted from an earlier version you may need the Dao 3.5 compatibility dll as well ...open a code module and then tool/references ...if its grayed out you may have to use the ms tool to do a clean uninstall of O2007 first and then reinstall A97. William -------------------------------------------------- From: "John Clark" Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2008 1:28 PM To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving" Subject: [AccessD] Missing library? > I am at client PC, looking at an A97 issue. I think I am missing a > library. This was a new PC, which we had to install A97 on...came w/A07 > > I'm not sure what library I need though...DAO? The commands it is erroring > on are simple ones..."format" "mid" etc. > > I'm not trying to reinstall of A97...any guidance? > > > John W. Clark > Information Technology Technician > Niagara County > Central Data Processing > > -- > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From dwaters at usinternet.com Wed Jul 9 10:24:15 2008 From: dwaters at usinternet.com (Dan Waters) Date: Wed, 9 Jul 2008 10:24:15 -0500 Subject: [AccessD] Type of Constant Message-ID: <30899B368E5546B4A2B6833F67D356FB@danwaters> I have a constant defined like this: Private Const OFN_SHOWHELP = &H10 Is &H10 a Long? A Variant? Dan From ssharkins at gmail.com Wed Jul 9 10:41:26 2008 From: ssharkins at gmail.com (Susan Harkins) Date: Wed, 9 Jul 2008 11:41:26 -0400 Subject: [AccessD] Type of Constant References: <30899B368E5546B4A2B6833F67D356FB@danwaters> Message-ID: <01e101c8e1da$41b4fec0$2f8601c7@SusanOne> Well, it equals 16, but danged if I can match that up to a data type. That's probably what the string &H10 actually represents and doesn't have a thing to do with its data type. Susan H. >I have a constant defined like this: > > Private Const OFN_SHOWHELP = &H10 > > Is &H10 a Long? A Variant? > > Dan From Lambert.Heenan at AIG.com Wed Jul 9 11:01:28 2008 From: Lambert.Heenan at AIG.com (Heenan, Lambert) Date: Wed, 9 Jul 2008 11:01:28 -0500 Subject: [AccessD] Type of Constant Message-ID: <34C8A2AB1EF3564CB0D64DB6AFFDD5C217002A71@XLIVMBX35bkup.aig.com> "&H" is just the VB/VBA prefix that specifies a hexadecimal constant. So the value is 10 hex (16 Dec) and the type is Long Integer. Lambert -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Dan Waters Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2008 11:24 AM To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' Subject: [AccessD] Type of Constant I have a constant defined like this: Private Const OFN_SHOWHELP = &H10 Is &H10 a Long? A Variant? Dan -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From JHewson at nciinc.com Wed Jul 9 11:52:59 2008 From: JHewson at nciinc.com (Hewson, Jim ) Date: Wed, 9 Jul 2008 11:52:59 -0500 Subject: [AccessD] Extract Strings from Long Test String Message-ID: <7E02B06E41E5404589EDDDA2BAA1C5A82C8C8D@sanex101.nciinc.com> I'm trying to extract several components from a text string. The string was created from a legacy system download into Excel. The text string is located in one field of a table that was imported into the database. The string is called a "Full Path" because it represents the location where the data was located in the legacy system. Each import could have several thousand rows. Below are samples of the field (watch wrap): [LH DMSP]/[AN/FMQ-7]/[7361002-2]/[7361799]/[7361795]/[953]/[7953200]/[795320 7]/[1N756A] [LH DMSP]/[AN/FRR-95]/[317400]/[317359]/[624459]/[317298-1]/[PTM15-1.5D]/[23 5-7053P334] [LH MWD]/[AN/FPS-123 (V) 1]/[957157-1]/[953252-1]/[584786-1]/[STM5-24]/[586371-5] [LH SCS]/[AN/FPS-85]/[2054300-0501]/[Receiver]/[No Number (F20)]/[2052660-0502]/[2018219-0501]/[2020306-0501]/[2055347-0506]/[2018 880-0001]/[1N752A] What I need to do is extract the strings between the brackets (i.e. "[", "]/[","]") for each "Full Path" and be able to use them in queries. There should be a minimum of five sets and there could be as many 15 sets of brackets. I have been able to get the first two but after that nothing seems to work. Any suggestions? MTIA Jim ################################################################################ This email transmission contains information from NCI Information Systems, Inc. that may be considered privileged or confidential and is intended solely for the named recipient. If you have received this message in error, please contact the sender immediately and be aware that the use, copying or dissemination of this information is prohibited. ################################################################################ From Lambert.Heenan at AIG.com Wed Jul 9 12:46:51 2008 From: Lambert.Heenan at AIG.com (Heenan, Lambert) Date: Wed, 9 Jul 2008 13:46:51 -0400 Subject: [AccessD] Extract Strings from Long Test String Message-ID: <34C8A2AB1EF3564CB0D64DB6AFFDD5C217002B01@XLIVMBX35bkup.aig.com> If I understand the question right, you should be able to do this with just a couple of calls to Replace()... Function fixFullPath(str As String) As String str = Replace(str, "[", "") str = Replace(str, "]", "") fixFullPath = str End Function And here's a test run.,, ? fixFullPath("[LHDMSP]/[AN/FMQ-7]/[7361002-2]/[7361799]/[7361795]/[953]/[7953 200]/[7953207]/[1N756A]") LHDMSP/AN/FMQ-7/7361002-2/7361799/7361795/953/7953200/7953207/1N756A HTH Lambert -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Hewson, Jim Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2008 12:53 PM To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving Subject: [AccessD] Extract Strings from Long Test String I'm trying to extract several components from a text string. The string was created from a legacy system download into Excel. The text string is located in one field of a table that was imported into the database. The string is called a "Full Path" because it represents the location where the data was located in the legacy system. Each import could have several thousand rows. Below are samples of the field (watch wrap): [LHDMSP]/[AN/FMQ-7]/[7361002-2]/[7361799]/[7361795]/[953]/[7953200]/[7953207 ]/[1N756A] [LH DMSP]/[AN/FRR-95]/[317400]/[317359]/[624459]/[317298-1]/[PTM15-1.5D]/[23 5-7053P334] [LH MWD]/[AN/FPS-123 (V) 1]/[957157-1]/[953252-1]/[584786-1]/[STM5-24]/[586371-5] [LH SCS]/[AN/FPS-85]/[2054300-0501]/[Receiver]/[No Number (F20)]/[2052660-0502]/[2018219-0501]/[2020306-0501]/[2055347-0506]/[2018 880-0001]/[1N752A] What I need to do is extract the strings between the brackets (i.e. "[", "]/[","]") for each "Full Path" and be able to use them in queries. There should be a minimum of five sets and there could be as many 15 sets of brackets. I have been able to get the first two but after that nothing seems to work. Any suggestions? MTIA Jim From jwelz at hotmail.com Wed Jul 9 12:51:57 2008 From: jwelz at hotmail.com (Jurgen Welz) Date: Wed, 9 Jul 2008 11:51:57 -0600 Subject: [AccessD] Extract Strings from Long Test String In-Reply-To: <7E02B06E41E5404589EDDDA2BAA1C5A82C8C8D@sanex101.nciinc.com> References: <7E02B06E41E5404589EDDDA2BAA1C5A82C8C8D@sanex101.nciinc.com> Message-ID: Sub getParts() Dim str As String str = "[LHDMSP]/[AN/FMQ-7]/[7361002-2]/[7361799]/[7361795]/[953]/[7953200]/[7953207]/[1N756A][LHDMSP]/[AN/FRR-95]/[317400]/[317359]/[624459]/[317298-1]/[PTM15-1.5D]/[235-7053P334][LH MWD]/[AN/FPS-123 (V)1]/[957157-1]/[953252-1]/[584786-1]/[STM5-24]/[586371-5][LH SCS]/[AN/FPS-85]/[2054300-0501]/[Receiver]/[No Number(F20)]/[2052660-0502]/[2018219-0501]/[2020306-0501]/[2055347-0506]/[2018880-0001]/[1N752A]" fnGetParts strEnd Sub Function fnGetParts(strIn As String) Dim lngI As Long Dim lngJ As Long Dim strTest As String strTest = strIn lngI = InStr(strTest, "[") Do While lngI strTest = Mid$(strTest, lngI + 1) lngJ = InStr(strTest, "]") Debug.Print Left$(strTest, lngJ - 1) lngI = InStr(strTest, "[") LoopEnd FunctionCiaoJ?rgen WelzEdmonton, Albertajwelz at hotmail.com> Date: Wed, 9 Jul 2008 11:52:59 -0500> From: JHewson at nciinc.com> To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com> Subject: [AccessD] Extract Strings from Long Test String> > I'm trying to extract several components from a text string. The string> was created from a legacy system download into Excel. The text string is> located in one field of a table that was imported into the database.> The string is called a "Full Path" because it represents the location> where the data was located in the legacy system. Each import could have> several thousand rows.> > Below are samples of the field (watch wrap):> [LH> DMSP]/[AN/FMQ-7]/[7361002-2]/[7361799]/[7361795]/[953]/[7953200]/[795320> 7]/[1N756A]> [LH> DMSP]/[AN/FRR-95]/[317400]/[317359]/[624459]/[317298-1]/[PTM15-1.5D]/[23> 5-7053P334]> [LH MWD]/[AN/FPS-123 (V)> 1]/[957157-1]/[953252-1]/[584786-1]/[STM5-24]/[586371-5]> [LH SCS]/[AN/FPS-85]/[2054300-0501]/[Receiver]/[No Number> (F20)]/[2052660-0502]/[2018219-0501]/[2020306-0501]/[2055347-0506]/[2018> 880-0001]/[1N752A]> > What I need to do is extract the strings between the brackets (i.e. "[",> "]/[","]") for each "Full Path" and be able to use them in queries.> There should be a minimum of five sets and there could be as many 15> sets of brackets.> > I have been able to get the first two but after that nothing seems to> work.> > Any suggestions?> > MTIA> > Jim _________________________________________________________________ Find hidden words, unscramble celebrity names, or try the ultimate crossword puzzle with Live Search Games. Play now! http://g.msn.ca/ca55/212 From jwelz at hotmail.com Wed Jul 9 13:00:51 2008 From: jwelz at hotmail.com (Jurgen Welz) Date: Wed, 9 Jul 2008 12:00:51 -0600 Subject: [AccessD] Extract Strings from Long Test String In-Reply-To: <7E02B06E41E5404589EDDDA2BAA1C5A82C8C8D@sanex101.nciinc.com> References: <7E02B06E41E5404589EDDDA2BAA1C5A82C8C8D@sanex101.nciinc.com> Message-ID: Boy did that post get messed up. I'll try again: Sub getParts() Dim str As String str = "[LHDMSP]/[AN/FMQ-7]/[7361002-2]/[7361799]/[7361795]/[953]/[7953200]/[7953207]/[1N756A][LHDMSP]/[AN/FRR-95]/[317400]/[317359]/[624459]/[317298-1]/[PTM15-1.5D]/[235-7053P334][LH MWD]/[AN/FPS-123 (V)1]/[957157-1]/[953252-1]/[584786-1]/[STM5-24]/[586371-5][LH SCS]/[AN/FPS-85]/[2054300-0501]/[Receiver]/[No Number(F20)]/[2052660-0502]/[2018219-0501]/[2020306-0501]/[2055347-0506]/[2018880-0001]/[1N752A]" fnGetParts str End Sub Function fnGetParts(strIn As String) Dim lngI As Long Dim lngJ As Long Dim strTest As String strTest = strIn lngI = InStr(strTest, "[") Do While lngI strTest = Mid$(strTest, lngI + 1) lngJ = InStr(strTest, "]") Debug.Print Left$(strTest, lngJ - 1) lngI = InStr(strTest, "[") Loop End Function Ciao J?rgen Welz Edmonton, Alberta jwelz at hotmail.com > Date: Wed, 9 Jul 2008 11:52:59 -0500 > From: JHewson at nciinc.com > To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com > Subject: [AccessD] Extract Strings from Long Test String > > I'm trying to extract several components from a text string. The string > was created from a legacy system download into Excel. The text string is > located in one field of a table that was imported into the database. > The string is called a "Full Path" because it represents the location > where the data was located in the legacy system. Each import could have > several thousand rows. > > Below are samples of the field (watch wrap): > [LH > DMSP]/[AN/FMQ-7]/[7361002-2]/[7361799]/[7361795]/[953]/[7953200]/[795320 > 7]/[1N756A] > [LH > DMSP]/[AN/FRR-95]/[317400]/[317359]/[624459]/[317298-1]/[PTM15-1.5D]/[23 > 5-7053P334] > [LH MWD]/[AN/FPS-123 (V) > 1]/[957157-1]/[953252-1]/[584786-1]/[STM5-24]/[586371-5] > [LH SCS]/[AN/FPS-85]/[2054300-0501]/[Receiver]/[No Number > (F20)]/[2052660-0502]/[2018219-0501]/[2020306-0501]/[2055347-0506]/[2018 > 880-0001]/[1N752A] > > What I need to do is extract the strings between the brackets (i.e. "[", > "]/[","]") for each "Full Path" and be able to use them in queries. > There should be a minimum of five sets and there could be as many 15 > sets of brackets. > > I have been able to get the first two but after that nothing seems to > work. > > Any suggestions? > > MTIA > > Jim > > > > ################################################################################ > > This email transmission contains information from NCI Information Systems, Inc. > that may be considered privileged or confidential and is intended solely for the > named recipient. If you have received this message in error, please contact the > sender immediately and be aware that the use, copying or dissemination of this > information is prohibited. > > ################################################################################ > -- > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com _________________________________________________________________ Find hidden words, unscramble celebrity names, or try the ultimate crossword puzzle with Live Search Games. Play now! http://g.msn.ca/ca55/212 From JHewson at nciinc.com Wed Jul 9 13:37:02 2008 From: JHewson at nciinc.com (Hewson, Jim ) Date: Wed, 9 Jul 2008 13:37:02 -0500 Subject: [AccessD] Extract Strings from Long Test String In-Reply-To: References: <7E02B06E41E5404589EDDDA2BAA1C5A82C8C8D@sanex101.nciinc.com> Message-ID: <7E02B06E41E5404589EDDDA2BAA1C5A82C8C91@sanex101.nciinc.com> Jurgen, Thanks, I was able to figure out the original email. This works well, but how do I get the text out of the immediate window? If I need to filter on the first part and then sort on the second or third, how can this be done? Thanks, Jim jhewson at nciinc.com -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jurgen Welz Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2008 1:01 PM To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving Subject: Re: [AccessD] Extract Strings from Long Test String Boy did that post get messed up. I'll try again: Sub getParts() Dim str As String str = "[LHDMSP]/[AN/FMQ-7]/[7361002-2]/[7361799]/[7361795]/[953]/[7953200]/[7953207]/[1N756A][LHDMSP]/[AN/FRR-95]/[317400]/[317359]/[624459]/[317298-1]/[PTM15-1.5D]/[235-7053P334][LH MWD]/[AN/FPS-123 (V)1]/[957157-1]/[953252-1]/[584786-1]/[STM5-24]/[586371-5][LH SCS]/[AN/FPS-85]/[2054300-0501]/[Receiver]/[No Number(F20)]/[2052660-0502]/[2018219-0501]/[2020306-0501]/[2055347-0506]/[2018880-0001]/[1N752A]" fnGetParts str End Sub Function fnGetParts(strIn As String) Dim lngI As Long Dim lngJ As Long Dim strTest As String strTest = strIn lngI = InStr(strTest, "[") Do While lngI strTest = Mid$(strTest, lngI + 1) lngJ = InStr(strTest, "]") Debug.Print Left$(strTest, lngJ - 1) lngI = InStr(strTest, "[") Loop End Function Ciao J?rgen Welz Edmonton, Alberta jwelz at hotmail.com ################################################################################ This email transmission contains information from NCI Information Systems, Inc. that may be considered privileged or confidential and is intended solely for the named recipient. If you have received this message in error, please contact the sender immediately and be aware that the use, copying or dissemination of this information is prohibited. ################################################################################ From JHewson at nciinc.com Wed Jul 9 13:34:20 2008 From: JHewson at nciinc.com (Hewson, Jim ) Date: Wed, 9 Jul 2008 13:34:20 -0500 Subject: [AccessD] Extract Strings from Long Test String In-Reply-To: <34C8A2AB1EF3564CB0D64DB6AFFDD5C217002B01@XLIVMBX35bkup.aig.com> References: <34C8A2AB1EF3564CB0D64DB6AFFDD5C217002B01@XLIVMBX35bkup.aig.com> Message-ID: <7E02B06E41E5404589EDDDA2BAA1C5A82C8C90@sanex101.nciinc.com> Thanks for the quick response, It's probably the way I explained it. This isn't quite right. I need the text between the brackets. For example: Original string: [LHDMSP]/[AN/FMQ-7]/[7361002-2]/[7361799]/[7361795]/[953]/[7953200]/[7953207]/[1N756A]") LH-DMSP AN/FMQ-7 7361002-2 7361799 7361795 953 7953200 7953207 1N756A I need to be able to use the extracted text in separate fields in a query. I'll need to filter some out, others I'll need to sort using one or more of the new "fields." Jim -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Heenan, Lambert Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2008 12:47 PM To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' Subject: Re: [AccessD] Extract Strings from Long Test String If I understand the question right, you should be able to do this with just a couple of calls to Replace()... Function fixFullPath(str As String) As String str = Replace(str, "[", "") str = Replace(str, "]", "") fixFullPath = str End Function And here's a test run.,, ? fixFullPath("[LHDMSP]/[AN/FMQ-7]/[7361002-2]/[7361799]/[7361795]/[953]/[7953 200]/[7953207]/[1N756A]") LHDMSP/AN/FMQ-7/7361002-2/7361799/7361795/953/7953200/7953207/1N756A HTH Lambert -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Hewson, Jim Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2008 12:53 PM To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving Subject: [AccessD] Extract Strings from Long Test String I'm trying to extract several components from a text string. The string was created from a legacy system download into Excel. The text string is located in one field of a table that was imported into the database. The string is called a "Full Path" because it represents the location where the data was located in the legacy system. Each import could have several thousand rows. Below are samples of the field (watch wrap): [LHDMSP]/[AN/FMQ-7]/[7361002-2]/[7361799]/[7361795]/[953]/[7953200]/[7953207 ]/[1N756A] [LH DMSP]/[AN/FRR-95]/[317400]/[317359]/[624459]/[317298-1]/[PTM15-1.5D]/[23 5-7053P334] [LH MWD]/[AN/FPS-123 (V) 1]/[957157-1]/[953252-1]/[584786-1]/[STM5-24]/[586371-5] [LH SCS]/[AN/FPS-85]/[2054300-0501]/[Receiver]/[No Number (F20)]/[2052660-0502]/[2018219-0501]/[2020306-0501]/[2055347-0506]/[2018 880-0001]/[1N752A] What I need to do is extract the strings between the brackets (i.e. "[", "]/[","]") for each "Full Path" and be able to use them in queries. There should be a minimum of five sets and there could be as many 15 sets of brackets. I have been able to get the first two but after that nothing seems to work. Any suggestions? MTIA Jim -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com ################################################################################ This email transmission contains information from NCI Information Systems, Inc. that may be considered privileged or confidential and is intended solely for the named recipient. If you have received this message in error, please contact the sender immediately and be aware that the use, copying or dissemination of this information is prohibited. ################################################################################ From dwaters at usinternet.com Wed Jul 9 14:10:47 2008 From: dwaters at usinternet.com (Dan Waters) Date: Wed, 9 Jul 2008 14:10:47 -0500 Subject: [AccessD] Type of Constant In-Reply-To: <34C8A2AB1EF3564CB0D64DB6AFFDD5C217002A71@XLIVMBX35bkup.aig.com> References: <34C8A2AB1EF3564CB0D64DB6AFFDD5C217002A71@XLIVMBX35bkup.aig.com> Message-ID: <6EECA9BF3C2C411BADDE0D67070EB256@danwaters> Thanks Lambert & Susan! -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Heenan, Lambert Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2008 11:01 AM To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' Subject: Re: [AccessD] Type of Constant "&H" is just the VB/VBA prefix that specifies a hexadecimal constant. So the value is 10 hex (16 Dec) and the type is Long Integer. Lambert -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Dan Waters Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2008 11:24 AM To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' Subject: [AccessD] Type of Constant I have a constant defined like this: Private Const OFN_SHOWHELP = &H10 Is &H10 a Long? A Variant? Dan -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From Barry.herring at att.net Wed Jul 9 14:30:30 2008 From: Barry.herring at att.net (Barry G. Herringq) Date: Wed, 9 Jul 2008 14:30:30 -0500 Subject: [AccessD] Extract Strings from Long Test String In-Reply-To: <7E02B06E41E5404589EDDDA2BAA1C5A82C8C90@sanex101.nciinc.com> References: <34C8A2AB1EF3564CB0D64DB6AFFDD5C217002B01@XLIVMBX35bkup.aig.com> <7E02B06E41E5404589EDDDA2BAA1C5A82C8C90@sanex101.nciinc.com> Message-ID: Dim txt As String Dim x As Variant Dim i As Long txt = "[LHDMSP]/[AN/FMQ-7]/[7361002-2]/[7361799]/[7361795]/[953]/[7953200]/[795320 7]/[1N756A]" txt = Replace(str, "[", "") txt = Replace(str, "]", "") x = Split(txt, "/") For i = 0 To UBound(x) Debug.Print x(i) Next i Quickly typed out and not tested but should put you on the correct path. Barry -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Hewson, Jim Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2008 1:34 PM To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving Subject: Re: [AccessD] Extract Strings from Long Test String Thanks for the quick response, It's probably the way I explained it. This isn't quite right. I need the text between the brackets. For example: Original string: [LHDMSP]/[AN/FMQ-7]/[7361002-2]/[7361799]/[7361795]/[953]/[7953200]/[7953207 ]/[1N756A]") LH-DMSP AN/FMQ-7 7361002-2 7361799 7361795 953 7953200 7953207 1N756A I need to be able to use the extracted text in separate fields in a query. I'll need to filter some out, others I'll need to sort using one or more of the new "fields." Jim -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Heenan, Lambert Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2008 12:47 PM To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' Subject: Re: [AccessD] Extract Strings from Long Test String If I understand the question right, you should be able to do this with just a couple of calls to Replace()... Function fixFullPath(str As String) As String str = Replace(str, "[", "") str = Replace(str, "]", "") fixFullPath = str End Function And here's a test run.,, ? fixFullPath("[LHDMSP]/[AN/FMQ-7]/[7361002-2]/[7361799]/[7361795]/[953]/[7953 200]/[7953207]/[1N756A]") LHDMSP/AN/FMQ-7/7361002-2/7361799/7361795/953/7953200/7953207/1N756A HTH Lambert -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Hewson, Jim Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2008 12:53 PM To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving Subject: [AccessD] Extract Strings from Long Test String I'm trying to extract several components from a text string. The string was created from a legacy system download into Excel. The text string is located in one field of a table that was imported into the database. The string is called a "Full Path" because it represents the location where the data was located in the legacy system. Each import could have several thousand rows. Below are samples of the field (watch wrap): [LHDMSP]/[AN/FMQ-7]/[7361002-2]/[7361799]/[7361795]/[953]/[7953200]/[7953207 ]/[1N756A] [LH DMSP]/[AN/FRR-95]/[317400]/[317359]/[624459]/[317298-1]/[PTM15-1.5D]/[23 5-7053P334] [LH MWD]/[AN/FPS-123 (V) 1]/[957157-1]/[953252-1]/[584786-1]/[STM5-24]/[586371-5] [LH SCS]/[AN/FPS-85]/[2054300-0501]/[Receiver]/[No Number (F20)]/[2052660-0502]/[2018219-0501]/[2020306-0501]/[2055347-0506]/[2018 880-0001]/[1N752A] What I need to do is extract the strings between the brackets (i.e. "[", "]/[","]") for each "Full Path" and be able to use them in queries. There should be a minimum of five sets and there could be as many 15 sets of brackets. I have been able to get the first two but after that nothing seems to work. Any suggestions? MTIA Jim -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com ############################################################################ #### This email transmission contains information from NCI Information Systems, Inc. that may be considered privileged or confidential and is intended solely for the named recipient. If you have received this message in error, please contact the sender immediately and be aware that the use, copying or dissemination of this information is prohibited. ############################################################################ #### -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From JHewson at nciinc.com Wed Jul 9 14:58:48 2008 From: JHewson at nciinc.com (Hewson, Jim ) Date: Wed, 9 Jul 2008 14:58:48 -0500 Subject: [AccessD] Extract Strings from Long Test String In-Reply-To: References: <34C8A2AB1EF3564CB0D64DB6AFFDD5C217002B01@XLIVMBX35bkup.aig.com><7E02B06E41E5404589EDDDA2BAA1C5A82C8C90@sanex101.nciinc.com> Message-ID: <7E02B06E41E5404589EDDDA2BAA1C5A82C8C94@sanex101.nciinc.com> Thanks, Barry, With your help, Jurgen's and Heenan's I think I got it figured out. Thanks everyone! Jim jhewson at nciinc.com -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Barry G. Herringq Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2008 2:31 PM To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' Subject: Re: [AccessD] Extract Strings from Long Test String Dim txt As String Dim x As Variant Dim i As Long txt = "[LHDMSP]/[AN/FMQ-7]/[7361002-2]/[7361799]/[7361795]/[953]/[7953200]/[795320 7]/[1N756A]" txt = Replace(str, "[", "") txt = Replace(str, "]", "") x = Split(txt, "/") For i = 0 To UBound(x) Debug.Print x(i) Next i Quickly typed out and not tested but should put you on the correct path. Barry -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Hewson, Jim Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2008 1:34 PM To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving Subject: Re: [AccessD] Extract Strings from Long Test String Thanks for the quick response, It's probably the way I explained it. This isn't quite right. I need the text between the brackets. For example: Original string: [LHDMSP]/[AN/FMQ-7]/[7361002-2]/[7361799]/[7361795]/[953]/[7953200]/[7953207 ]/[1N756A]") LH-DMSP AN/FMQ-7 7361002-2 7361799 7361795 953 7953200 7953207 1N756A I need to be able to use the extracted text in separate fields in a query. I'll need to filter some out, others I'll need to sort using one or more of the new "fields." Jim -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Heenan, Lambert Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2008 12:47 PM To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' Subject: Re: [AccessD] Extract Strings from Long Test String If I understand the question right, you should be able to do this with just a couple of calls to Replace()... Function fixFullPath(str As String) As String str = Replace(str, "[", "") str = Replace(str, "]", "") fixFullPath = str End Function And here's a test run.,, ? fixFullPath("[LHDMSP]/[AN/FMQ-7]/[7361002-2]/[7361799]/[7361795]/[953]/[7953 200]/[7953207]/[1N756A]") LHDMSP/AN/FMQ-7/7361002-2/7361799/7361795/953/7953200/7953207/1N756A HTH Lambert -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Hewson, Jim Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2008 12:53 PM To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving Subject: [AccessD] Extract Strings from Long Test String I'm trying to extract several components from a text string. The string was created from a legacy system download into Excel. The text string is located in one field of a table that was imported into the database. The string is called a "Full Path" because it represents the location where the data was located in the legacy system. Each import could have several thousand rows. Below are samples of the field (watch wrap): [LHDMSP]/[AN/FMQ-7]/[7361002-2]/[7361799]/[7361795]/[953]/[7953200]/[7953207 ]/[1N756A] [LH DMSP]/[AN/FRR-95]/[317400]/[317359]/[624459]/[317298-1]/[PTM15-1.5D]/[23 5-7053P334] [LH MWD]/[AN/FPS-123 (V) 1]/[957157-1]/[953252-1]/[584786-1]/[STM5-24]/[586371-5] [LH SCS]/[AN/FPS-85]/[2054300-0501]/[Receiver]/[No Number (F20)]/[2052660-0502]/[2018219-0501]/[2020306-0501]/[2055347-0506]/[2018 880-0001]/[1N752A] What I need to do is extract the strings between the brackets (i.e. "[", "]/[","]") for each "Full Path" and be able to use them in queries. There should be a minimum of five sets and there could be as many 15 sets of brackets. I have been able to get the first two but after that nothing seems to work. Any suggestions? MTIA Jim -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com ############################################################################ #### This email transmission contains information from NCI Information Systems, Inc. that may be considered privileged or confidential and is intended solely for the named recipient. If you have received this message in error, please contact the sender immediately and be aware that the use, copying or dissemination of this information is prohibited. ############################################################################ #### -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com ################################################################################ This email transmission contains information from NCI Information Systems, Inc. that may be considered privileged or confidential and is intended solely for the named recipient. If you have received this message in error, please contact the sender immediately and be aware that the use, copying or dissemination of this information is prohibited. ################################################################################ From DWUTKA at Marlow.com Wed Jul 9 15:03:36 2008 From: DWUTKA at Marlow.com (Drew Wutka) Date: Wed, 9 Jul 2008 15:03:36 -0500 Subject: [AccessD] Extract Strings from Long Test String In-Reply-To: <7E02B06E41E5404589EDDDA2BAA1C5A82C8C8D@sanex101.nciinc.com> References: <7E02B06E41E5404589EDDDA2BAA1C5A82C8C8D@sanex101.nciinc.com> Message-ID: Assuming strField is that data: Dim strArray() as String strArray=Split(mid(strField,2,len(strfield)-2),"]/[") strArray is now an array with each element being the data between the brackets. Drew -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Hewson, Jim Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2008 11:53 AM To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving Subject: [AccessD] Extract Strings from Long Test String I'm trying to extract several components from a text string. The string was created from a legacy system download into Excel. The text string is located in one field of a table that was imported into the database. The string is called a "Full Path" because it represents the location where the data was located in the legacy system. Each import could have several thousand rows. Below are samples of the field (watch wrap): [LH DMSP]/[AN/FMQ-7]/[7361002-2]/[7361799]/[7361795]/[953]/[7953200]/[795320 7]/[1N756A] [LH DMSP]/[AN/FRR-95]/[317400]/[317359]/[624459]/[317298-1]/[PTM15-1.5D]/[23 5-7053P334] [LH MWD]/[AN/FPS-123 (V) 1]/[957157-1]/[953252-1]/[584786-1]/[STM5-24]/[586371-5] [LH SCS]/[AN/FPS-85]/[2054300-0501]/[Receiver]/[No Number (F20)]/[2052660-0502]/[2018219-0501]/[2020306-0501]/[2055347-0506]/[2018 880-0001]/[1N752A] What I need to do is extract the strings between the brackets (i.e. "[", "]/[","]") for each "Full Path" and be able to use them in queries. There should be a minimum of five sets and there could be as many 15 sets of brackets. I have been able to get the first two but after that nothing seems to work. Any suggestions? MTIA Jim ######################################################################## ######## This email transmission contains information from NCI Information Systems, Inc. that may be considered privileged or confidential and is intended solely for the named recipient. If you have received this message in error, please contact the sender immediately and be aware that the use, copying or dissemination of this information is prohibited. ######################################################################## ######## -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com The information contained in this transmission is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain II-VI Proprietary and/or II-VI Business Sensitive material. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender immediately and destroy the material in its entirety, whether electronic or hard copy. You are notified that any review, retransmission, copying, disclosure, dissemination, or other use of, or taking of any action in reliance upon this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient is prohibited. From fuller.artful at gmail.com Wed Jul 9 15:58:25 2008 From: fuller.artful at gmail.com (Arthur Fuller) Date: Wed, 9 Jul 2008 17:58:25 -0300 Subject: [AccessD] Extract Strings from Long Test String In-Reply-To: References: <7E02B06E41E5404589EDDDA2BAA1C5A82C8C8D@sanex101.nciinc.com> Message-ID: <29f585dd0807091358y6d58f68ci6586724f292910f8@mail.gmail.com> The following code fixes the problem in the previously posted code. Just a tiny little glitch but this is the fix: Sub Test01() Dim txt As String Dim x As Variant Dim i As Long txt = "[LHDMSP]/[AN/FMQ-7]/[7361002-2]/[7361799]/[7361795]/[953]/[7953200]/[7953207]/[1N756A]" txt = Replace(txt, "[", "") txt = Replace(txt, "]", "") x = Split(txt, "/") For i = 0 To UBound(x) Debug.Print x(i) Next i End Sub Arthur On Wed, Jul 9, 2008 at 5:03 PM, Drew Wutka wrote: > Assuming strField is that data: > > Dim strArray() as String > strArray=Split(mid(strField,2,len(strfield)-2),"]/[") > > strArray is now an array with each element being the data between the > brackets. > > Drew > > -----Original Message----- > From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Hewson, Jim > Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2008 11:53 AM > To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving > Subject: [AccessD] Extract Strings from Long Test String > > I'm trying to extract several components from a text string. The string > was created from a legacy system download into Excel. The text string is > located in one field of a table that was imported into the database. > The string is called a "Full Path" because it represents the location > where the data was located in the legacy system. Each import could have > several thousand rows. > > Below are samples of the field (watch wrap): > [LH > DMSP]/[AN/FMQ-7]/[7361002-2]/[7361799]/[7361795]/[953]/[7953200]/[795320 > 7]/[1N756A] > [LH > DMSP]/[AN/FRR-95]/[317400]/[317359]/[624459]/[317298-1]/[PTM15-1.5D]/[23 > 5-7053P334] > [LH MWD]/[AN/FPS-123 (V) > 1]/[957157-1]/[953252-1]/[584786-1]/[STM5-24]/[586371-5] > [LH SCS]/[AN/FPS-85]/[2054300-0501]/[Receiver]/[No Number > (F20)]/[2052660-0502]/[2018219-0501]/[2020306-0501]/[2055347-0506]/[2018 > 880-0001]/[1N752A] > > What I need to do is extract the strings between the brackets (i.e. "[", > "]/[","]") for each "Full Path" and be able to use them in queries. > There should be a minimum of five sets and there could be as many 15 > sets of brackets. > > I have been able to get the first two but after that nothing seems to > work. > > Any suggestions? > > MTIA > > Jim > > > > ######################################################################## > ######## > > This email transmission contains information from NCI Information > Systems, Inc. > that may be considered privileged or confidential and is intended solely > for the > named recipient. If you have received this message in error, please > contact the > sender immediately and be aware that the use, copying or dissemination > of this > information is prohibited. > > ######################################################################## > ######## > -- > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > The information contained in this transmission is intended only for the > person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain II-VI Proprietary > and/or II-VI Business Sensitive material. If you are not the intended > recipient, please contact the sender immediately and destroy the material in > its entirety, whether electronic or hard copy. You are notified that any > review, retransmission, copying, disclosure, dissemination, or other use of, > or taking of any action in reliance upon this information by persons or > entities other than the intended recipient is prohibited. > > > -- > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > From stuart at lexacorp.com.pg Wed Jul 9 17:55:39 2008 From: stuart at lexacorp.com.pg (Stuart McLachlan) Date: Thu, 10 Jul 2008 08:55:39 +1000 Subject: [AccessD] Type of Constant In-Reply-To: <34C8A2AB1EF3564CB0D64DB6AFFDD5C217002A71@XLIVMBX35bkup.aig.com> Message-ID: <4875CE8B.5886.6B865DE0@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg> It is actually a Variant of Type Integer (not Long). VarType(OFN_SHOWHELP)) returns 2 (vbInteger) The Variant data type is automatically specified if you don't specify a data type when you declare a constant, variable, or argument. Variables declared as the Variant data type can contain string, date, time, Boolean, or numeric values, and can convert the values they contain automatically. Numeric Variant values require 16 bytes of memory (which is significant only in large procedures or complex modules) and they are slower to access than explicitly typed variables of any other type. You rarely use the Variant data type for a constant. String Variant values require 22 bytes of memory. Bottom line, you should always declare the Type of constants and variables. If you want it to be a Long use: Private Const OFN_SHOWHELP AS LONG = &H10 On 9 Jul 2008 at 11:01, Heenan, Lambert wrote: > "&H" is just the VB/VBA prefix that specifies a hexadecimal constant. So the > value is 10 hex (16 Dec) and the type is Long Integer. > > Lambert > > -----Original Message----- > From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Dan Waters > Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2008 11:24 AM > To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' > Subject: [AccessD] Type of Constant > > I have a constant defined like this: > > Private Const OFN_SHOWHELP = &H10 > > Is &H10 a Long? A Variant? > > Dan > > > > -- > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > -- > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From kp at sdsonline.net Thu Jul 10 21:19:23 2008 From: kp at sdsonline.net (Kath Pelletti) Date: Fri, 11 Jul 2008 12:19:23 +1000 Subject: [AccessD] vba generic code move focus to next control Message-ID: <000b01c8e2fc$89f267e0$6401a8c0@DELLAPTOP> Hi all - I am looking for some code/command to move focus to the next control on a subform . Before I start mucking around with retrieving the tab index for the current control and trying to use that to move to the next one, just want to check. Am I missing something simple? Is there some simple command or code which would do something like 'GotoControl - Next?' I could (of course) nominate the name of the control I want to go to but as I will need to use this code for many controls, i want something generic. tia Kath Existing code for subcontrol: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Private Sub SpecialDiet_AfterUpdate() Dim strerrormsg As String On Error GoTo Err_Handler Me.DateLastRevised = CurrentDate() Me.Parent.Requery Me.SpecialDiet.setfocus 'TAB TO NEXT CONTROL Normal_exit: DoCmd.SetWarnings True Exit Sub Err_Handler: MsgBox "Error: [" & Err.Number & "] " & IIf(Len(strerrormsg) > 0, strerrormsg, Err.Description), vbCritical, "Error Message" Resume Normal_exit End Sub ______________________________________ Kath Pelletti Software Design and Solutions Pty Ltd Ph: 9505-6714 Fax: 9505-6430 kp at sdsonline.net From kp at sdsonline.net Thu Jul 10 22:51:35 2008 From: kp at sdsonline.net (Kath Pelletti) Date: Fri, 11 Jul 2008 13:51:35 +1000 Subject: [AccessD] get focus back to subform - URGENT Message-ID: <003601c8e309$6b27a430$6401a8c0@DELLAPTOP> Must be a bad day.... >From a control on a subform, when I say me.parent.requery, I then cannot get the focus back to my control on the subform using: me.controlname.setfocus. Any tips? This should be easy stuff but driving me mad today......... tia Kath ______________________________________ Kath Pelletti From darren at activebilling.com.au Wed Jul 9 23:11:46 2008 From: darren at activebilling.com.au (Darren D) Date: Thu, 10 Jul 2008 14:11:46 +1000 Subject: [AccessD] get focus back to subform - URGENT In-Reply-To: <003601c8e309$6b27a430$6401a8c0@DELLAPTOP> Message-ID: <200807100411.m6A4Bjtx031768@databaseadvisors.com> Hi Kath Be explicit then - Something like ...Some Code me.parent.requery 'Then Forms!frmSomeMainForm.form.somesubform.somesubformcontrol.setfocus ...some code Re your earlier post about moving between controls I assume you want the user to just tab away happily and move between the subform and the main form without really knowing or seeing any difference I do this explicitly too - I determine the 'last' control on the main form then on the 'lostfocus' of that field I have something like Forms!frmSomeMainForm.form.somesubform.somesubformcontrol.setfocus And the reverse on the last control on the sub form There are probably better ways to do this but this is simple and it works for end user navigation well enough See ya DD -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Kath Pelletti Sent: Friday, 11 July 2008 1:52 PM To: Access D Normal List Subject: [AccessD] get focus back to subform - URGENT Must be a bad day.... >From a control on a subform, when I say me.parent.requery, I then cannot get the focus back to my control on the subform using: me.controlname.setfocus. Any tips? This should be easy stuff but driving me mad today......... tia Kath ______________________________________ Kath Pelletti -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From ssharkins at gmail.com Thu Jul 10 07:29:48 2008 From: ssharkins at gmail.com (Susan Harkins) Date: Thu, 10 Jul 2008 08:29:48 -0400 Subject: [AccessD] vba generic code move focus to next control References: <000b01c8e2fc$89f267e0$6401a8c0@DELLAPTOP> Message-ID: <004c01c8e288$c23238c0$2f8601c7@SusanOne> Your subform's in a Tab control? Susan H. > I am looking for some code/command to move focus to the next control on a > subform . Before I start mucking around with retrieving the tab index for > the current control and trying to use that to move to the next one, just > want to check. Am I missing something simple? Is there some simple command > or code which would do something like 'GotoControl - Next?' From Lambert.Heenan at AIG.com Thu Jul 10 08:42:32 2008 From: Lambert.Heenan at AIG.com (Heenan, Lambert) Date: Thu, 10 Jul 2008 08:42:32 -0500 Subject: [AccessD] get focus back to subform - URGENT Message-ID: <34C8A2AB1EF3564CB0D64DB6AFFDD5C217002DBD@XLIVMBX35bkup.aig.com> IIRC you have to first set the focus to the subform control (that contains the subform) and then set the focus to the control ON the subform. Lambert -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Kath Pelletti Sent: Thursday, July 10, 2008 11:52 PM To: Access D Normal List Subject: [AccessD] get focus back to subform - URGENT Must be a bad day.... >From a control on a subform, when I say me.parent.requery, I then cannot get the focus back to my control on the subform using: me.controlname.setfocus. Any tips? This should be easy stuff but driving me mad today......... tia Kath ______________________________________ Kath Pelletti -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From kp at sdsonline.net Fri Jul 11 09:25:10 2008 From: kp at sdsonline.net (Kath Pelletti) Date: Sat, 12 Jul 2008 00:25:10 +1000 Subject: [AccessD] vba generic code move focus to next control References: <000b01c8e2fc$89f267e0$6401a8c0@DELLAPTOP> <004c01c8e288$c23238c0$2f8601c7@SusanOne> Message-ID: <000701c8e361$edbae300$6401a8c0@DELLAPTOP> No - just an ordinary subform. Kath ----- Original Message ----- From: "Susan Harkins" To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving" Sent: Thursday, July 10, 2008 10:29 PM Subject: Re: [AccessD] vba generic code move focus to next control > Your subform's in a Tab control? > > Susan H. > >> I am looking for some code/command to move focus to the next control on a >> subform . Before I start mucking around with retrieving the tab index for >> the current control and trying to use that to move to the next one, just >> want to check. Am I missing something simple? Is there some simple >> command >> or code which would do something like 'GotoControl - Next?' > > -- > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > From rusty.hammond at cpiqpc.com Thu Jul 10 09:30:16 2008 From: rusty.hammond at cpiqpc.com (rusty.hammond at cpiqpc.com) Date: Thu, 10 Jul 2008 09:30:16 -0500 Subject: [AccessD] Show new blank record on a subform of a subform Message-ID: <49A286ABF515E94A8505CD14DEB721704D00B3@CPIEMAIL-EVS1.CPIQPC.NET> We have subform on a tab control. The form the tab control is on, is a subform of the main form. We want the subform on the tab contorl to go to a new blank record when we click on the tab that the subform is on. We've tried setting the default properties of the form to DataEntry=Yes, AddRecords=Yes but it always opens to the first existing record. Any ideas. Rusty Hammond IT Dept. - B-20 CPI Qualified Plan Consultants, Inc. (620) 793-8473 ext. 416 rusty.hammond at cpiqpc.com ********************************************************************** WARNING: All e-mail sent to and from this address will be received, scanned or otherwise recorded by the CPI Qualified Plan Consultants, Inc. corporate e-mail system and is subject to archival, monitoring or review by, and/or disclosure to, someone other than the recipient. ********************************************************************** From ssharkins at gmail.com Thu Jul 10 09:54:11 2008 From: ssharkins at gmail.com (Susan Harkins) Date: Thu, 10 Jul 2008 10:54:11 -0400 Subject: [AccessD] vba generic code move focus to next control References: <000b01c8e2fc$89f267e0$6401a8c0@DELLAPTOP><004c01c8e288$c23238c0$2f8601c7@SusanOne> <000701c8e361$edbae300$6401a8c0@DELLAPTOP> Message-ID: <023001c8e29c$d1bdc6b0$2f8601c7@SusanOne> http://articles.techrepublic.com.com/5100-10878_11-5058240.html I hope you find something in this article to help. Susan H. > No - just an ordinary subform. From cfoust at infostatsystems.com Thu Jul 10 10:20:06 2008 From: cfoust at infostatsystems.com (Charlotte Foust) Date: Thu, 10 Jul 2008 08:20:06 -0700 Subject: [AccessD] Show new blank record on a subform of a subform In-Reply-To: <49A286ABF515E94A8505CD14DEB721704D00B3@CPIEMAIL-EVS1.CPIQPC.NET> References: <49A286ABF515E94A8505CD14DEB721704D00B3@CPIEMAIL-EVS1.CPIQPC.NET> Message-ID: Set DataEntry = No AddRecords = Yes. Charlotte Foust -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of rusty.hammond at cpiqpc.com Sent: Thursday, July 10, 2008 7:30 AM To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: [AccessD] Show new blank record on a subform of a subform We have subform on a tab control. The form the tab control is on, is a subform of the main form. We want the subform on the tab contorl to go to a new blank record when we click on the tab that the subform is on. We've tried setting the default properties of the form to DataEntry=Yes, AddRecords=Yes but it always opens to the first existing record. Any ideas. Rusty Hammond IT Dept. - B-20 CPI Qualified Plan Consultants, Inc. (620) 793-8473 ext. 416 rusty.hammond at cpiqpc.com ********************************************************************** WARNING: All e-mail sent to and from this address will be received, scanned or otherwise recorded by the CPI Qualified Plan Consultants, Inc. corporate e-mail system and is subject to archival, monitoring or review by, and/or disclosure to, someone other than the recipient. ********************************************************************** -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From cjlabs at worldnet.att.net Thu Jul 10 11:01:28 2008 From: cjlabs at worldnet.att.net (Carolyn Johnson) Date: Thu, 10 Jul 2008 11:01:28 -0500 Subject: [AccessD] set number of columns on page by code References: <49A286ABF515E94A8505CD14DEB721704D00B3@CPIEMAIL-EVS1.CPIQPC.NET> Message-ID: <004001c8e2a6$38d8f410$6601a8c0@XPcomputer> Access2000/2002/2003, WinXP Is there a way to set the number of columns on a page via code? I'd like to have the option of 1 or 2 columns on a report, but I'd prefer not to make the Page Setup dialog box available to the user. Thanks Carolyn Johnson From Mark.Porter at nana.com Thu Jul 10 14:16:01 2008 From: Mark.Porter at nana.com (Mark Porter) Date: Thu, 10 Jul 2008 11:16:01 -0800 Subject: [AccessD] Pulling all sheets from a spreadsheet Message-ID: <23ECCC09839328418BDA4A81BCF75377372A68@ndc-mail-srv1.nana.corp> Does anyone have some code that pulls data from all tabs in a spreadsheet, assuming all data is in the same format? I'm getting spreadsheets with 50+ tabs of budget data for loading into a database, and it's very cumbersome. Thanks, Mark Porter Sr. Technologist Nana Development Corp. Desk: 907-265-4156 Fax: 907-343-5656 From DWUTKA at Marlow.com Thu Jul 10 14:35:06 2008 From: DWUTKA at Marlow.com (Drew Wutka) Date: Thu, 10 Jul 2008 14:35:06 -0500 Subject: [AccessD] Pulling all sheets from a spreadsheet In-Reply-To: <23ECCC09839328418BDA4A81BCF75377372A68@ndc-mail-srv1.nana.corp> References: <23ECCC09839328418BDA4A81BCF75377372A68@ndc-mail-srv1.nana.corp> Message-ID: Look in the recent posts, the ADO code I posted a few weeks ago would do that for you. Drew -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Mark Porter Sent: Thursday, July 10, 2008 2:16 PM To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving Subject: [AccessD] Pulling all sheets from a spreadsheet Does anyone have some code that pulls data from all tabs in a spreadsheet, assuming all data is in the same format? I'm getting spreadsheets with 50+ tabs of budget data for loading into a database, and it's very cumbersome. Thanks, Mark Porter Sr. Technologist Nana Development Corp. Desk: 907-265-4156 Fax: 907-343-5656 -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com The information contained in this transmission is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain II-VI Proprietary and/or II-VI Business Sensitive material. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender immediately and destroy the material in its entirety, whether electronic or hard copy. You are notified that any review, retransmission, copying, disclosure, dissemination, or other use of, or taking of any action in reliance upon this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient is prohibited. From Mark.Porter at nana.com Thu Jul 10 15:03:13 2008 From: Mark.Porter at nana.com (Mark Porter) Date: Thu, 10 Jul 2008 12:03:13 -0800 Subject: [AccessD] Pulling all sheets from a spreadsheet In-Reply-To: References: <23ECCC09839328418BDA4A81BCF75377372A68@ndc-mail-srv1.nana.corp> Message-ID: <23ECCC09839328418BDA4A81BCF75377372A94@ndc-mail-srv1.nana.corp> I'm checking the archives but not having any luck. I'm probably looking under the wrong keywords. What was the subject line? Mark Porter Sr. Technologist Nana Development Corp. Desk: 907-265-4156 Fax: 907-343-5656 -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Drew Wutka Sent: Thursday, July 10, 2008 11:35 AM To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving Subject: Re: [AccessD] Pulling all sheets from a spreadsheet Look in the recent posts, the ADO code I posted a few weeks ago would do that for you. Drew -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Mark Porter Sent: Thursday, July 10, 2008 2:16 PM To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving Subject: [AccessD] Pulling all sheets from a spreadsheet Does anyone have some code that pulls data from all tabs in a spreadsheet, assuming all data is in the same format? I'm getting spreadsheets with 50+ tabs of budget data for loading into a database, and it's very cumbersome. Thanks, Mark Porter Sr. Technologist Nana Development Corp. Desk: 907-265-4156 Fax: 907-343-5656 -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com The information contained in this transmission is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain II-VI Proprietary and/or II-VI Business Sensitive material. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender immediately and destroy the material in its entirety, whether electronic or hard copy. You are notified that any review, retransmission, copying, disclosure, dissemination, or other use of, or taking of any action in reliance upon this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient is prohibited. -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From JHewson at nciinc.com Thu Jul 10 15:02:24 2008 From: JHewson at nciinc.com (Hewson, Jim ) Date: Thu, 10 Jul 2008 15:02:24 -0500 Subject: [AccessD] Pulling all sheets from a spreadsheet In-Reply-To: <23ECCC09839328418BDA4A81BCF75377372A68@ndc-mail-srv1.nana.corp> References: <23ECCC09839328418BDA4A81BCF75377372A68@ndc-mail-srv1.nana.corp> Message-ID: <7E02B06E41E5404589EDDDA2BAA1C5A82C8CA8@sanex101.nciinc.com> Do you wish to pull all the data from the multiple spreadsheets into one workbook or do you plan on pulling all the data into a table? I have code for either. In mid June I asked the question of how to hide a database view of a table as I was copying and pasting from Excel into Access. My problem was that I had several Workbooks with multiple spreadsheets each that I needed to pull into Access into a single table. I would need to pull in the data, manipulate it, them export it to a different Excel Workbook. Then the temp tables I used to import the data would be cleared and the process would start over again. Manually, the process was taking one or two people three to four days to complete. The recommendations were to use 1. DoCmd TransferSpreadsheet, 2. Use an array 3. Manipulate the data in Excel to another workbook 4. Copy and paste the data from Excel to Access. The original problem included an Excel Add-in that combined all the spreadsheets of one workbook into another workbook in one spreadsheet. The one spreadsheet was then imported (manually) into Access and the data manipulated. My thought was to use Access to combine the spreadsheets into a temp table then work with the table to extract the data I needed. I first used Copy and Pasted; that is I copied the data from Excel and then pasted it into Access. This worked, but the Excel spreadsheet would not close - hence my exasperated inquiry to this list. It was suggested by Heenan to use the DoCmd.TransferSpreadsheet. I was successful in getting this to work and it worked well. Two problems cropped up though. One, an Excel instance was always present in the Task Manager and when I attempted to start over I would get an error message. I used several suggested solutions such as to quit Excel, to close everything (worksheets, workbooks, etc.), make sure to cut off user control (UserControl = False) or to ensure Excel was called explicitly every time (that meant I couldn't use With appExcel). I spent a couple of days trying to find a solution. In one blog I read it mentioned that cut off UserControl only worked in A97. Nothing worked. I finally ended up using a Shell command to kill the Excel Instance. The other problem I encountered was when a workbook had more than 100 spreadsheet it would take f-o-r-e-v-e-r to complete. One workbook had over 700 spreadsheets and it would take several minutes to import the data. Drew recommended and gave me code to create an array. Sorry, Drew, I never did work with it much. I spent most of my time trying to the TransferSpreadsheet option to work. So I can't really say if it would work. My current process is to use the Excel Add-in to create an additional workbook with all the data in one worksheet. The Add-in takes seconds to do the work - one Workbook has about 2400 spreadsheets (a whopping 42MB) and it takes less than a minute to combine the spreadsheets (BTW - this file actually creates two spreadsheets because of Excel's row limitation). After the spreadsheets are combined then the data is imported into Excel. I would like to thank everyone who helped me this. I'm sorry it took so long. HTH Jim jhewson at nciinc.com -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Mark Porter Sent: Thursday, July 10, 2008 2:16 PM To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving Subject: [AccessD] Pulling all sheets from a spreadsheet Does anyone have some code that pulls data from all tabs in a spreadsheet, assuming all data is in the same format? I'm getting spreadsheets with 50+ tabs of budget data for loading into a database, and it's very cumbersome. Thanks, Mark Porter Sr. Technologist Nana Development Corp. 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If you have received this message in error, please contact the sender immediately and be aware that the use, copying or dissemination of this information is prohibited. ################################################################################ From rockysmolin at bchacc.com Thu Jul 10 15:17:20 2008 From: rockysmolin at bchacc.com (Rocky Smolin at Beach Access Software) Date: Thu, 10 Jul 2008 13:17:20 -0700 Subject: [AccessD] Pulling all sheets from a spreadsheet In-Reply-To: <23ECCC09839328418BDA4A81BCF75377372A94@ndc-mail-srv1.nana.corp> References: <23ECCC09839328418BDA4A81BCF75377372A68@ndc-mail-srv1.nana.corp> <23ECCC09839328418BDA4A81BCF75377372A94@ndc-mail-srv1.nana.corp> Message-ID: <002001c8e2c9$f53d0560$0301a8c0@HAL9005> Mark: Don't know if this is what you're looking for but here's a snip which will allow you to cycle through all the worksheets in a workbook using automation: ' Cycle through worksheets - 1 sheet per assembly For intI = 1 To xlBook.Worksheets.Count Set xlSheet = xlBook.Sheets(intI) txtImportData = "Processing BOM Worksheet " & intI & " of " _ & xlBook.Worksheets.Count & " - " & xlSheet.Name Me.Repaint . . . Next IntI Then you can extract the values from the cells and sort them out into the Access tables. Rocky Smolin Beach Access Software 858-259-4334 www.e-z-mrp.com www.bchacc.com -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Mark Porter Sent: Thursday, July 10, 2008 1:03 PM To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving Subject: Re: [AccessD] Pulling all sheets from a spreadsheet I'm checking the archives but not having any luck. I'm probably looking under the wrong keywords. What was the subject line? Mark Porter Sr. Technologist Nana Development Corp. Desk: 907-265-4156 Fax: 907-343-5656 -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Drew Wutka Sent: Thursday, July 10, 2008 11:35 AM To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving Subject: Re: [AccessD] Pulling all sheets from a spreadsheet Look in the recent posts, the ADO code I posted a few weeks ago would do that for you. Drew -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Mark Porter Sent: Thursday, July 10, 2008 2:16 PM To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving Subject: [AccessD] Pulling all sheets from a spreadsheet Does anyone have some code that pulls data from all tabs in a spreadsheet, assuming all data is in the same format? I'm getting spreadsheets with 50+ tabs of budget data for loading into a database, and it's very cumbersome. Thanks, Mark Porter Sr. Technologist Nana Development Corp. Desk: 907-265-4156 Fax: 907-343-5656 -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com The information contained in this transmission is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain II-VI Proprietary and/or II-VI Business Sensitive material. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender immediately and destroy the material in its entirety, whether electronic or hard copy. You are notified that any review, retransmission, copying, disclosure, dissemination, or other use of, or taking of any action in reliance upon this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient is prohibited. -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From dwaters at usinternet.com Thu Jul 10 16:10:02 2008 From: dwaters at usinternet.com (Dan Waters) Date: Thu, 10 Jul 2008 16:10:02 -0500 Subject: [AccessD] Delete Table in Another Database Message-ID: <154BEF16BA9C44DF87B6F3B8163F62C3@danwaters> I'm trying to first delete and then recreate a table in another database, but the DeleteObject command can't find the table. This is not working: DoCmd.DeleteObject acTable, "tblTemp IN '" & TempTablesPath & "'" What will work? Thanks! Dan From shamil at smsconsulting.spb.ru Thu Jul 10 17:21:36 2008 From: shamil at smsconsulting.spb.ru (Shamil Salakhetdinov) Date: Fri, 11 Jul 2008 02:21:36 +0400 Subject: [AccessD] Feeling myself really stupid today - OT(?): MS SQL 2000/2005 development issue... Message-ID: <117d01c8e2db$51ef6da0$6401a8c0@nant> Hi All, I must say I'm feeling myself really stupid today as I have got trapped for a couple of hours by a simple(?) task to solve - here it is (I'm sorry if the task definition below sounds ambiguous): Environment =========== MS SQL 2000/2005 Task ==== A table should be able to mark itself as requiring batch time consuming calculation to be executed by setting *its own* CalcRequired flag field when any of its fields are getting updated, or when any or its child table's rows are getting inserted, updated or deleted. The same CalcRequired flag should be still possible to set or to *clear* by explicit UPDATE sql statement. (Note: The definition of the above task is almost complete but some ambiguity in its definition is left to force you to think through and to effectively solve all the possible cases) Restrictions: ============= - there couldn?t be any other auxiliary/temporary tables used in this task solutuion Typical application: ==================== 1. An [Order] and an [OrderDetail] tables. 2. [Order] table has to get lengthy [AnalyseOrderDetailsAndCalcTotals] procedure to be scheduled for execution when any of the [Order] table row fields are updated or when any of the child [OrderDetail] table rows related to the parent [Order] table row are inserted, updated or deleted 3. The scheduling of [AnalyseOrderDetailsAndCalcTotals] procedure to run is considered to be done when [Order].[CalcRequired] flag field is set to 1. 4. Lengthy [AnalyseOrderDetailsAndCalcTotals] procedure can be activated e.g. by Windows Service, which analyses value of [Order].[CalcRequired] flag, or this could be an MS SQL server job, which runs periodically, starts stored procedure, which checks value of [Order].[CalcRequired] flag of [Order] table rows, and runs [AnalyseOrderDetailsAndCalcTotals] (stored) procedure for the ones of them having this flag field equal to 1; when calculation is done then flag is set back to 0 (cleared). Or calculation can be done by an external program, (web) service etc., which supply the values to be used to update [Order] and [OrderDetail] table's rows and then clear [Order].[CalcRequired] flag field. Solution ========= - I think I have one to be published and criticized and improved in a day here, do you? Note ===== the above task seems to be an ordinary routine one but I somehow didn't need to get it done in the past, and therefore I got "trapped" by it today having many other complicated things todo and thinking this simple one can be solved by "cowboy attack": - I was wrong! - I needed to talk to my colleague to get it solved, and after he proposed the solution/approach I did think before but somehow didn't elaborate/dig into it good enough to get it done by myself... If you do have the solution for the above task from you past experience please wait and do not publish it here within a day, please give the others a chance to get it done by themselves... It's really simple when you have its solution at your hands... Or I'm missing something again today? Thank you. -- Shamil From ab-mi at post3.tele.dk Thu Jul 10 18:01:21 2008 From: ab-mi at post3.tele.dk (Asger Blond) Date: Fri, 11 Jul 2008 01:01:21 +0200 Subject: [AccessD] Delete Table in Another Database In-Reply-To: <154BEF16BA9C44DF87B6F3B8163F62C3@danwaters> Message-ID: <000001c8e2e0$df208060$2101a8c0@AB> Dan, This works for me: Dim cnn As New ADODB.Connection Dim TempTablesPath As String TempTablesPath = "C:\MyDir\MyDB.mdb" cnn.ConnectionString = "Provider=Microsoft.Jet.OLEDB.4.0;Data Source=" & TempTablePath cnn.Open cnn.Execute "DROP TABLE tblTemp" cnn.Close Set cnn = Nothing HTH Asger -----Oprindelig meddelelse----- Fra: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] P? vegne af Dan Waters Sendt: 10. juli 2008 23:10 Til: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' Emne: [AccessD] Delete Table in Another Database I'm trying to first delete and then recreate a table in another database, but the DeleteObject command can't find the table. This is not working: DoCmd.DeleteObject acTable, "tblTemp IN '" & TempTablesPath & "'" What will work? Thanks! Dan -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From Darryl.Collins at coles.com.au Thu Jul 10 17:58:39 2008 From: Darryl.Collins at coles.com.au (Darryl Collins) Date: Fri, 11 Jul 2008 08:58:39 +1000 Subject: [AccessD] Extract Strings from Long Test String In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <57E6E6CA42105A48B977303A2CDC2720076BF12D21@WPEXCH22.retail.ad.cmltd.net.au> Nice... :) -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Drew Wutka Sent: Thursday, 10 July 2008 6:04 AM To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving Subject: Re: [AccessD] Extract Strings from Long Test String Assuming strField is that data: Dim strArray() as String strArray=Split(mid(strField,2,len(strfield)-2),"]/[") strArray is now an array with each element being the data between the brackets. Drew -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Hewson, Jim Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2008 11:53 AM To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving Subject: [AccessD] Extract Strings from Long Test String I'm trying to extract several components from a text string. The string was created from a legacy system download into Excel. The text string is located in one field of a table that was imported into the database. The string is called a "Full Path" because it represents the location where the data was located in the legacy system. Each import could have several thousand rows. Below are samples of the field (watch wrap): [LH DMSP]/[AN/FMQ-7]/[7361002-2]/[7361799]/[7361795]/[953]/[7953200]/[795320 7]/[1N756A] [LH DMSP]/[AN/FRR-95]/[317400]/[317359]/[624459]/[317298-1]/[PTM15-1.5D]/[23 5-7053P334] [LH MWD]/[AN/FPS-123 (V) 1]/[957157-1]/[953252-1]/[584786-1]/[STM5-24]/[586371-5] [LH SCS]/[AN/FPS-85]/[2054300-0501]/[Receiver]/[No Number (F20)]/[2052660-0502]/[2018219-0501]/[2020306-0501]/[2055347-0506]/[2018 880-0001]/[1N752A] What I need to do is extract the strings between the brackets (i.e. "[", "]/[","]") for each "Full Path" and be able to use them in queries. There should be a minimum of five sets and there could be as many 15 sets of brackets. I have been able to get the first two but after that nothing seems to work. Any suggestions? MTIA Jim ######################################################################## ######## This email transmission contains information from NCI Information Systems, Inc. that may be considered privileged or confidential and is intended solely for the named recipient. If you have received this message in error, please contact the sender immediately and be aware that the use, copying or dissemination of this information is prohibited. ######################################################################## ######## -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com The information contained in this transmission is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain II-VI Proprietary and/or II-VI Business Sensitive material. 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No warranty is made that this material is free from computer virus or any other defect or error. Any loss/damage incurred by using this material is not the sender's responsibility. The sender's entire liability will be limited to resupplying the material. From Darryl.Collins at coles.com.au Thu Jul 10 18:04:39 2008 From: Darryl.Collins at coles.com.au (Darryl Collins) Date: Fri, 11 Jul 2008 09:04:39 +1000 Subject: [AccessD] Pulling all sheets from a spreadsheet In-Reply-To: <23ECCC09839328418BDA4A81BCF75377372A94@ndc-mail-srv1.nana.corp> Message-ID: <57E6E6CA42105A48B977303A2CDC2720076BF12D22@WPEXCH22.retail.ad.cmltd.net.au> Mark, The thread was cunningly hidden under "Re: [AccessD] Hide datasheet view of table when appending" I kept a copy of the original email as it was something I would definately be able to utilise. ' -------------- COPIED EMAIL FOLLOWS -------------------- Ok, well if you want to try the recordset method, here's an example. I've commented the important parts: Function ImportExcelData() Dim XLcnn As ADODB.Connection Dim XLrs As ADODB.Recordset Dim rs As ADODB.Recordset Dim strSheetName As String Dim i As Long 'Create Excel ADO Connection object Set XLcnn = New ADODB.Connection XLcnn.Provider = "Microsoft.Jet.OLEDB.4.0" 'Define Connection Object to connect to excel 'Note, HDR=No will not use the first fields as field names XLcnn.Properties("Extended Properties") = "Excel 8.0;HDR=Yes" 'Open the excel file XLcnn.Open "E:\tblRequests.xls" 'Get the list of tables names (sheet names, with a $) Set rs = XLcnn.OpenSchema(adSchemaTables) 'This line gets the first table/sheet rs.MoveFirst strSheetName = rs.Fields("TABLE_NAME").Value rs.Close 'Create and open the Access table recordset Set rs = New ADODB.Recordset rs.Open "tblRequests", CurrentProject.Connection, adOpenKeyset, adLockOptimistic, adCmdTableDirect 'Create and open the Excel recordset Set XLrs = New ADODB.Recordset XLrs.Open strSheetName, XLcnn, adOpenKeyset, adLockReadOnly, adCmdTableDirect If XLrs.EOF = False Then XLrs.MoveFirst Do Until XLrs.EOF = True 'We are adding a new record for each Excel record. rs.AddNew For i = 0 To XLrs.Fields.Count - 1 'This example uses an excel file and table with the same field names 'other methods could be used to match the fields 'We are also checking for nulls before we add data to the field If Not IsNull(XLrs.Fields(i).Value) Then rs.Fields(XLrs.Fields(i).Name).Value = XLrs.Fields(i) End If Next i rs.Update XLrs.MoveNext Loop 'close everything up rs.Close Set rs = Nothing XLrs.Close Set XLrs = Nothing XLcnn.Close Set XLcnn = Nothing MsgBox "Done" End Function There are several advantages to this method. One, Excel is never opening. It's all done with Jet's 'understanding' of Excel. Two, it's fast. A few years ago, I had to create a routine that automatically imported several spreadsheets into a network database. Using Automation took several minutes to import a few hundred. Using recordsets, it ran several hundred in a few seconds. I'm sure TransferSpreadsheet is pretty fast too. Three, unlike TransferSpreadsheet, you have complete control at the single field level to perform any kind of logic you might need (verifying data, etc). Four, though this probably won't apply, but you don't have to have Access OR Excel installed on a machine to run this kind of code (though my example is using currentproject.connection, because I wrote it in an Access .mdb. Put this code in VB, and a non-Office program can copy data from an .xls file to an .mdb file, without having office installed). Another advantage is that I believed you mentioned that there could be multiple spreadsheets, and a variable number of columns in each. Not sure what you are doing to determine these variables, using TransferSpreadsheet, but with the example above, you should be able to see that you can get how many sheets are in the spreadsheet, and how many fields/columns there are. Drew ' ---------- END OF COPY regards darryl. -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Mark Porter Sent: Friday, 11 July 2008 6:03 AM To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving Subject: Re: [AccessD] Pulling all sheets from a spreadsheet I'm checking the archives but not having any luck. I'm probably looking under the wrong keywords. What was the subject line? Mark Porter Sr. Technologist Nana Development Corp. Desk: 907-265-4156 Fax: 907-343-5656 -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Drew Wutka Sent: Thursday, July 10, 2008 11:35 AM To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving Subject: Re: [AccessD] Pulling all sheets from a spreadsheet Look in the recent posts, the ADO code I posted a few weeks ago would do that for you. Drew -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Mark Porter Sent: Thursday, July 10, 2008 2:16 PM To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving Subject: [AccessD] Pulling all sheets from a spreadsheet Does anyone have some code that pulls data from all tabs in a spreadsheet, assuming all data is in the same format? I'm getting spreadsheets with 50+ tabs of budget data for loading into a database, and it's very cumbersome. Thanks, Mark Porter Sr. Technologist Nana Development Corp. Desk: 907-265-4156 Fax: 907-343-5656 -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com The information contained in this transmission is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain II-VI Proprietary and/or II-VI Business Sensitive material. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender immediately and destroy the material in its entirety, whether electronic or hard copy. You are notified that any review, retransmission, copying, disclosure, dissemination, or other use of, or taking of any action in reliance upon this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient is prohibited. -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com This email and any attachments may contain privileged and confidential information and are intended for the named addressee only. If you have received this e-mail in error, please notify the sender and delete this e-mail immediately. Any confidentiality, privilege or copyright is not waived or lost because this e-mail has been sent to you in error. It is your responsibility to check this e-mail and any attachments for viruses. No warranty is made that this material is free from computer virus or any other defect or error. Any loss/damage incurred by using this material is not the sender's responsibility. The sender's entire liability will be limited to resupplying the material. From dwaters at usinternet.com Thu Jul 10 18:29:26 2008 From: dwaters at usinternet.com (Dan Waters) Date: Thu, 10 Jul 2008 18:29:26 -0500 Subject: [AccessD] Delete Table in Another Database In-Reply-To: <000001c8e2e0$df208060$2101a8c0@AB> References: <154BEF16BA9C44DF87B6F3B8163F62C3@danwaters> <000001c8e2e0$df208060$2101a8c0@AB> Message-ID: <293201F52403492AAC2EC01A1AE164D5@danwaters> Thanks Asger! Dan -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Asger Blond Sent: Thursday, July 10, 2008 6:01 PM To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' Subject: Re: [AccessD] Delete Table in Another Database Dan, This works for me: Dim cnn As New ADODB.Connection Dim TempTablesPath As String TempTablesPath = "C:\MyDir\MyDB.mdb" cnn.ConnectionString = "Provider=Microsoft.Jet.OLEDB.4.0;Data Source=" & TempTablePath cnn.Open cnn.Execute "DROP TABLE tblTemp" cnn.Close Set cnn = Nothing HTH Asger -----Oprindelig meddelelse----- Fra: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] P? vegne af Dan Waters Sendt: 10. juli 2008 23:10 Til: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' Emne: [AccessD] Delete Table in Another Database I'm trying to first delete and then recreate a table in another database, but the DeleteObject command can't find the table. This is not working: DoCmd.DeleteObject acTable, "tblTemp IN '" & TempTablesPath & "'" What will work? Thanks! Dan -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From DWUTKA at Marlow.com Thu Jul 10 18:36:56 2008 From: DWUTKA at Marlow.com (Drew Wutka) Date: Thu, 10 Jul 2008 18:36:56 -0500 Subject: [AccessD] Extract Strings from Long Test String In-Reply-To: <57E6E6CA42105A48B977303A2CDC2720076BF12D21@WPEXCH22.retail.ad.cmltd.net.au> Message-ID: They don't call me code body for nothing! ;) Drew -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Darryl Collins Sent: Thursday, July 10, 2008 5:59 PM To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' Subject: Re: [AccessD] Extract Strings from Long Test String Nice... :) -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Drew Wutka Sent: Thursday, 10 July 2008 6:04 AM To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving Subject: Re: [AccessD] Extract Strings from Long Test String Assuming strField is that data: Dim strArray() as String strArray=Split(mid(strField,2,len(strfield)-2),"]/[") strArray is now an array with each element being the data between the brackets. Drew -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Hewson, Jim Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2008 11:53 AM To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving Subject: [AccessD] Extract Strings from Long Test String I'm trying to extract several components from a text string. The string was created from a legacy system download into Excel. The text string is located in one field of a table that was imported into the database. The string is called a "Full Path" because it represents the location where the data was located in the legacy system. Each import could have several thousand rows. Below are samples of the field (watch wrap): [LH DMSP]/[AN/FMQ-7]/[7361002-2]/[7361799]/[7361795]/[953]/[7953200]/[795320 7]/[1N756A] [LH DMSP]/[AN/FRR-95]/[317400]/[317359]/[624459]/[317298-1]/[PTM15-1.5D]/[23 5-7053P334] [LH MWD]/[AN/FPS-123 (V) 1]/[957157-1]/[953252-1]/[584786-1]/[STM5-24]/[586371-5] [LH SCS]/[AN/FPS-85]/[2054300-0501]/[Receiver]/[No Number (F20)]/[2052660-0502]/[2018219-0501]/[2020306-0501]/[2055347-0506]/[2018 880-0001]/[1N752A] What I need to do is extract the strings between the brackets (i.e. "[", "]/[","]") for each "Full Path" and be able to use them in queries. There should be a minimum of five sets and there could be as many 15 sets of brackets. I have been able to get the first two but after that nothing seems to work. Any suggestions? MTIA Jim ######################################################################## ######## This email transmission contains information from NCI Information Systems, Inc. that may be considered privileged or confidential and is intended solely for the named recipient. If you have received this message in error, please contact the sender immediately and be aware that the use, copying or dissemination of this information is prohibited. ######################################################################## ######## -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com The information contained in this transmission is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain II-VI Proprietary and/or II-VI Business Sensitive material. 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No warranty is made that this material is free from computer virus or any other defect or error. Any loss/damage incurred by using this material is not the sender's responsibility. The sender's entire liability will be limited to resupplying the material. -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com The information contained in this transmission is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain II-VI Proprietary and/or II-VI Business Sensitive material. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender immediately and destroy the material in its entirety, whether electronic or hard copy. You are notified that any review, retransmission, copying, disclosure, dissemination, or other use of, or taking of any action in reliance upon this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient is prohibited. From DWUTKA at Marlow.com Thu Jul 10 18:38:36 2008 From: DWUTKA at Marlow.com (Drew Wutka) Date: Thu, 10 Jul 2008 18:38:36 -0500 Subject: [AccessD] Pulling all sheets from a spreadsheet In-Reply-To: <57E6E6CA42105A48B977303A2CDC2720076BF12D22@WPEXCH22.retail.ad.cmltd.net.au> Message-ID: Thanks for digging that up. I was coming in remotely at lunch when I replied to this thread, and I had that email archived on my machine at work, too lazy to remote into my machine to dig it up. ;) Drew -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Darryl Collins Sent: Thursday, July 10, 2008 6:05 PM To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' Subject: Re: [AccessD] Pulling all sheets from a spreadsheet Mark, The thread was cunningly hidden under "Re: [AccessD] Hide datasheet view of table when appending" I kept a copy of the original email as it was something I would definately be able to utilise. ' -------------- COPIED EMAIL FOLLOWS -------------------- Ok, well if you want to try the recordset method, here's an example. I've commented the important parts: Function ImportExcelData() Dim XLcnn As ADODB.Connection Dim XLrs As ADODB.Recordset Dim rs As ADODB.Recordset Dim strSheetName As String Dim i As Long 'Create Excel ADO Connection object Set XLcnn = New ADODB.Connection XLcnn.Provider = "Microsoft.Jet.OLEDB.4.0" 'Define Connection Object to connect to excel 'Note, HDR=No will not use the first fields as field names XLcnn.Properties("Extended Properties") = "Excel 8.0;HDR=Yes" 'Open the excel file XLcnn.Open "E:\tblRequests.xls" 'Get the list of tables names (sheet names, with a $) Set rs = XLcnn.OpenSchema(adSchemaTables) 'This line gets the first table/sheet rs.MoveFirst strSheetName = rs.Fields("TABLE_NAME").Value rs.Close 'Create and open the Access table recordset Set rs = New ADODB.Recordset rs.Open "tblRequests", CurrentProject.Connection, adOpenKeyset, adLockOptimistic, adCmdTableDirect 'Create and open the Excel recordset Set XLrs = New ADODB.Recordset XLrs.Open strSheetName, XLcnn, adOpenKeyset, adLockReadOnly, adCmdTableDirect If XLrs.EOF = False Then XLrs.MoveFirst Do Until XLrs.EOF = True 'We are adding a new record for each Excel record. rs.AddNew For i = 0 To XLrs.Fields.Count - 1 'This example uses an excel file and table with the same field names 'other methods could be used to match the fields 'We are also checking for nulls before we add data to the field If Not IsNull(XLrs.Fields(i).Value) Then rs.Fields(XLrs.Fields(i).Name).Value = XLrs.Fields(i) End If Next i rs.Update XLrs.MoveNext Loop 'close everything up rs.Close Set rs = Nothing XLrs.Close Set XLrs = Nothing XLcnn.Close Set XLcnn = Nothing MsgBox "Done" End Function There are several advantages to this method. One, Excel is never opening. It's all done with Jet's 'understanding' of Excel. Two, it's fast. A few years ago, I had to create a routine that automatically imported several spreadsheets into a network database. Using Automation took several minutes to import a few hundred. Using recordsets, it ran several hundred in a few seconds. I'm sure TransferSpreadsheet is pretty fast too. Three, unlike TransferSpreadsheet, you have complete control at the single field level to perform any kind of logic you might need (verifying data, etc). Four, though this probably won't apply, but you don't have to have Access OR Excel installed on a machine to run this kind of code (though my example is using currentproject.connection, because I wrote it in an Access .mdb. Put this code in VB, and a non-Office program can copy data from an .xls file to an .mdb file, without having office installed). Another advantage is that I believed you mentioned that there could be multiple spreadsheets, and a variable number of columns in each. Not sure what you are doing to determine these variables, using TransferSpreadsheet, but with the example above, you should be able to see that you can get how many sheets are in the spreadsheet, and how many fields/columns there are. Drew ' ---------- END OF COPY regards darryl. -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Mark Porter Sent: Friday, 11 July 2008 6:03 AM To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving Subject: Re: [AccessD] Pulling all sheets from a spreadsheet I'm checking the archives but not having any luck. I'm probably looking under the wrong keywords. What was the subject line? Mark Porter Sr. Technologist Nana Development Corp. Desk: 907-265-4156 Fax: 907-343-5656 -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Drew Wutka Sent: Thursday, July 10, 2008 11:35 AM To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving Subject: Re: [AccessD] Pulling all sheets from a spreadsheet Look in the recent posts, the ADO code I posted a few weeks ago would do that for you. Drew -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Mark Porter Sent: Thursday, July 10, 2008 2:16 PM To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving Subject: [AccessD] Pulling all sheets from a spreadsheet Does anyone have some code that pulls data from all tabs in a spreadsheet, assuming all data is in the same format? I'm getting spreadsheets with 50+ tabs of budget data for loading into a database, and it's very cumbersome. 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From garykjos at gmail.com Thu Jul 10 20:16:31 2008 From: garykjos at gmail.com (Gary Kjos) Date: Thu, 10 Jul 2008 20:16:31 -0500 Subject: [AccessD] Extract Strings from Long Test String In-Reply-To: References: <57E6E6CA42105A48B977303A2CDC2720076BF12D21@WPEXCH22.retail.ad.cmltd.net.au> Message-ID: Code BODY now is it? ;-) GK On Thu, Jul 10, 2008 at 6:36 PM, Drew Wutka wrote: > They don't call me code body for nothing! ;) > > Drew > > -----Original Message----- > From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Darryl > Collins > Sent: Thursday, July 10, 2008 5:59 PM > To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' > Subject: Re: [AccessD] Extract Strings from Long Test String > > > Nice... :) -- Gary Kjos garykjos at gmail.com From DWUTKA at Marlow.com Thu Jul 10 21:17:55 2008 From: DWUTKA at Marlow.com (Drew Wutka) Date: Thu, 10 Jul 2008 21:17:55 -0500 Subject: [AccessD] Extract Strings from Long Test String In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Whoops....nope, meant code BOY! Slip of the finger.... ;) Drew -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gary Kjos Sent: Thursday, July 10, 2008 8:17 PM To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving Subject: Re: [AccessD] Extract Strings from Long Test String Code BODY now is it? ;-) GK On Thu, Jul 10, 2008 at 6:36 PM, Drew Wutka wrote: > They don't call me code body for nothing! ;) > > Drew > > -----Original Message----- > From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Darryl > Collins > Sent: Thursday, July 10, 2008 5:59 PM > To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' > Subject: Re: [AccessD] Extract Strings from Long Test String > > > Nice... :) -- Gary Kjos garykjos at gmail.com -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com The information contained in this transmission is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain II-VI Proprietary and/or II-VI Business Sensitive material. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender immediately and destroy the material in its entirety, whether electronic or hard copy. You are notified that any review, retransmission, copying, disclosure, dissemination, or other use of, or taking of any action in reliance upon this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient is prohibited. From adtp at airtelmail.in Fri Jul 11 01:21:25 2008 From: adtp at airtelmail.in (A.D.Tejpal) Date: Fri, 11 Jul 2008 11:51:25 +0530 Subject: [AccessD] vba generic code move focus to next control References: <000b01c8e2fc$89f267e0$6401a8c0@DELLAPTOP> Message-ID: <003201c8e31e$6e722ec0$ac5fa27a@personald6374f> Kath, Although programmatic generic solution for forcing focus to next control is available, it should not be necessary in your case. In Tools > Options, make sure that on Keyboard tab, Move After Enter is set to Next Field. With this, the focus after update action will move to the next control. No special code would be needed. Your existing statement for setting the focus to current control is also apparently redundant. Best wishes, A.D.Tejpal ------------ ----- Original Message ----- From: Kath Pelletti To: Access D Normal List Sent: Friday, July 11, 2008 07:49 Subject: [AccessD] vba generic code move focus to next control Hi all - I am looking for some code/command to move focus to the next control on a subform . Before I start mucking around with retrieving the tab index for the current control and trying to use that to move to the next one, just want to check. Am I missing something simple? Is there some simple command or code which would do something like 'GotoControl - Next?' I could (of course) nominate the name of the control I want to go to but as I will need to use this code for many controls, i want something generic. tia Kath Existing code for subcontrol: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Private Sub SpecialDiet_AfterUpdate() Dim strerrormsg As String On Error GoTo Err_Handler Me.DateLastRevised = CurrentDate() Me.Parent.Requery Me.SpecialDiet.setfocus 'TAB TO NEXT CONTROL Normal_exit: DoCmd.SetWarnings True Exit Sub Err_Handler: MsgBox "Error: [" & Err.Number & "] " & IIf(Len(strerrormsg) > 0, strerrormsg, Err.Description), vbCritical, "Error Message" Resume Normal_exit End Sub ______________________________________ Kath Pelletti Software Design and Solutions Pty Ltd Ph: 9505-6714 Fax: 9505-6430 kp at sdsonline.net From darren at activebilling.com.au Fri Jul 11 01:35:44 2008 From: darren at activebilling.com.au (Darren D) Date: Fri, 11 Jul 2008 16:35:44 +1000 Subject: [AccessD] A2203: Date Format Issues Message-ID: <200807110635.m6B6Zl5V024885@databaseadvisors.com> Hi Team I have a new machine - SO maybe this date question is a regional setting issue Anyhow - I am trying to show all accounts created in a db since a certain date When I debug the recordsource SQL that is supposed to 'feed' the form I see select * from tblAccount where DateCreated >= #4/07/2008# Excellent - Over here in Oz we want dd/mm/yyy date formatting So to me this SQL will show me all the accounts created since the 4th July 2008 But it does not It ends up showing me all the accounts created since 7th April Arrrgggghhhh I have made all the neseccary changes to regional settings Help please Darren From Darryl.Collins at coles.com.au Fri Jul 11 02:48:32 2008 From: Darryl.Collins at coles.com.au (Darryl Collins) Date: Fri, 11 Jul 2008 17:48:32 +1000 Subject: [AccessD] A2203: Date Format Issues In-Reply-To: <200807110635.m6B6Zl5V024885@databaseadvisors.com> Message-ID: <57E6E6CA42105A48B977303A2CDC2720076BF12D28@WPEXCH22.retail.ad.cmltd.net.au> Darren, You might need to be more specific in your code and force the date to be what you want, esp if it is passing via the VBE for instance. MS are sloppy with dates in places and it often end up defaulting to the US date (mm-dd-yyyy) in the process. darryl. -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Darren D Sent: Friday, 11 July 2008 4:36 PM To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' Subject: [AccessD] A2203: Date Format Issues Hi Team I have a new machine - SO maybe this date question is a regional setting issue Anyhow - I am trying to show all accounts created in a db since a certain date When I debug the recordsource SQL that is supposed to 'feed' the form I see select * from tblAccount where DateCreated >= #4/07/2008# Excellent - Over here in Oz we want dd/mm/yyy date formatting So to me this SQL will show me all the accounts created since the 4th July 2008 But it does not It ends up showing me all the accounts created since 7th April Arrrgggghhhh I have made all the neseccary changes to regional settings Help please Darren -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com This email and any attachments may contain privileged and confidential information and are intended for the named addressee only. If you have received this e-mail in error, please notify the sender and delete this e-mail immediately. Any confidentiality, privilege or copyright is not waived or lost because this e-mail has been sent to you in error. It is your responsibility to check this e-mail and any attachments for viruses. No warranty is made that this material is free from computer virus or any other defect or error. Any loss/damage incurred by using this material is not the sender's responsibility. The sender's entire liability will be limited to resupplying the material. From pedro at plex.nl Fri Jul 11 10:06:03 2008 From: pedro at plex.nl (pedro at plex.nl) Date: Fri, 11 Jul 2008 10:06:03 (MET DST) Subject: [AccessD] no automatic round up/off Message-ID: <200807110806.m6B863Pp009083@mailhostC.plex.net> Dear List, i have a form with a recordsource to a query, which is related to a table, in a access 2003 database (and filerange of access 2000). Teh table has numeric fields with Integer field length, 1 decimal place and a notation that is set to: #,# Also the fields in the query and form are set to 1 decimal place and notation #,# each time a place a value in the form like 5,4 it is round off to 5,0. But i want the original value 5,4 as data. No rouding up or off. How can i do this? Thanks Pedro From Gustav at cactus.dk Fri Jul 11 04:25:01 2008 From: Gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock) Date: Fri, 11 Jul 2008 11:25:01 +0200 Subject: [AccessD] A2203: Date Format Issues Message-ID: Hi Darren and Darryl No, you _will_ need to be more specific in your code. In SQL you must explicitly format date string expressions to the "reverse" US format, m/d/yyyy, or the ISO format, yyyy-mm-dd. Then set your regional settings of Windows as you like. /gustav >>> Darryl.Collins at coles.com.au 11-07-2008 09:48 >>> Darren, You might need to be more specific in your code and force the date to be what you want, esp if it is passing via the VBE for instance. MS are sloppy with dates in places and it often end up defaulting to the US date (mm-dd-yyyy) in the process. darryl. -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Darren D Sent: Friday, 11 July 2008 4:36 PM To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' Subject: [AccessD] A2203: Date Format Issues Hi Team I have a new machine - SO maybe this date question is a regional setting issue Anyhow - I am trying to show all accounts created in a db since a certain date When I debug the recordsource SQL that is supposed to 'feed' the form I see select * from tblAccount where DateCreated >= #4/07/2008# Excellent - Over here in Oz we want dd/mm/yyy date formatting So to me this SQL will show me all the accounts created since the 4th July 2008 But it does not It ends up showing me all the accounts created since 7th April Arrrgggghhhh I have made all the neseccary changes to regional settings Help please Darren From Gustav at cactus.dk Fri Jul 11 04:28:19 2008 From: Gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock) Date: Fri, 11 Jul 2008 11:28:19 +0200 Subject: [AccessD] no automatic round up/off Message-ID: Hi Pedro Data type Integer and Long and Byte have per definition no decimals. If four decimals is fine, use Currency for the field. Else Single or Double. Avoid Decimal as this is known to be buggy. /gustav >>> pedro at plex.nl 11-07-2008 10:06 >>> Dear List, i have a form with a recordsource to a query, which is related to a table, in a access 2003 database (and filerange of access 2000). Teh table has numeric fields with Integer field length, 1 decimal place and a notation that is set to: #,# Also the fields in the query and form are set to 1 decimal place and notation #,# each time a place a value in the form like 5,4 it is round off to 5,0. But i want the original value 5,4 as data. No rouding up or off. How can i do this? Thanks Pedro From pedro at plex.nl Fri Jul 11 12:01:46 2008 From: pedro at plex.nl (pedro at plex.nl) Date: Fri, 11 Jul 2008 12:01:46 (MET DST) Subject: [AccessD] no automatic round up/off Message-ID: <200807111001.m6BA1kvW015325@mailhostC.plex.net> Hello Gustav, i made a typing error, i meant single. So it still is best to use currency? Or is there another method that there is no automatic round up/of? Pedro In antwoord op: > From: "Gustav Brock" > To: > Date: Fri, 11 Jul 2008 11:28:19 +0200 > Subject: Re: [AccessD] no automatic round up/off > > > Hi Pedro > > Data type Integer and Long and Byte have per definition no decimals. > If four decimals is fine, use Currency for the field. Else Single or Double. Avoid Decimal as this is known to be buggy. > > /gustav > > >>> pedro at plex.nl 11-07-2008 10:06 >>> > Dear List, > > i have a form with a recordsource to a query, which is related to a table, in a access 2003 database (and filerange of access 2000). > Teh table has numeric fields with Integer field length, 1 decimal place and a notation that is set to: #,# > Also the fields in the query and form are set to 1 decimal place and notation #,# > > each time a place a value in the form like 5,4 it is round off to 5,0. But i want the original value 5,4 as data. No rouding up or off. > > How can i do this? > > Thanks > > Pedro > > > -- > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > From Gustav at cactus.dk Fri Jul 11 05:18:08 2008 From: Gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock) Date: Fri, 11 Jul 2008 12:18:08 +0200 Subject: [AccessD] no automatic round up/off Message-ID: Hi Pedro A Single will not round to an integer. Sounds like you need to remove or adjust the format of the fields (TextBoxes) of the form. Just a switch to Currency will not do it. /gustav >>> pedro at plex.nl 11-07-2008 12:01 >>> Hello Gustav, i made a typing error, i meant single. So it still is best to use currency? Or is there another method that there is no automatic round up/of? Pedro In antwoord op: > From: "Gustav Brock" > To: > Date: Fri, 11 Jul 2008 11:28:19 +0200 > Subject: Re: [AccessD] no automatic round up/off > > > Hi Pedro > > Data type Integer and Long and Byte have per definition no decimals. > If four decimals is fine, use Currency for the field. Else Single or Double. Avoid Decimal as this is known to be buggy. > > /gustav > > >>> pedro at plex.nl 11-07-2008 10:06 >>> > Dear List, > > i have a form with a recordsource to a query, which is related to a table, in a access 2003 database (and filerange of access 2000). > Teh table has numeric fields with Integer field length, 1 decimal place and a notation that is set to: #,# > Also the fields in the query and form are set to 1 decimal place and notation #,# > > each time a place a value in the form like 5,4 it is round off to 5,0. But i want the original value 5,4 as data. No rouding up or off. > > How can i do this? > > Thanks > > Pedro From Gustav at cactus.dk Fri Jul 11 06:11:31 2008 From: Gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock) Date: Fri, 11 Jul 2008 13:11:31 +0200 Subject: [AccessD] Feeling myself really stupid today - OT(?): MS SQL 2000/2005 development issue... Message-ID: Hi Shamil Isn't that what a T-SQL trigger is for? Or, for this "lengthy [AnalyseOrderDetailsAndCalcTotals] procedure", a CLR SQL Server trigger? http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/938d9dz2.aspx Pass the flag to the trigger. If the flag is zero, the trigger just exits. Or - as I would suspect you to - if you have a DataTable object, catch the CRUD events like: private void ChildInsertTrigger() { _childDataTable.TableNewRow += new DataTableNewRowEventHandler(_childDataTable_TableNewRow); } void _childDataTable_TableNewRow(object sender, DataTableNewRowEventArgs e) { // Pop a message. MessageBox.Show(e.Row.ToString()); // Run trigger code if flag of _parentDataTableRow is True. If (_parentRow.ExecuteFlag == True) { // Run lengthy [AnalyseOrderDetailsAndCalcTotals] procedure } } I much prefer the last option as I have the opinion that higher level logic and procedures should be kept off the database engine. Looking forward to the clever solution from you and your friend! /gustav >>> shamil at smsconsulting.spb.ru 11-07-2008 00:21 >>> Hi All, I must say I'm feeling myself really stupid today as I have got trapped for a couple of hours by a simple(?) task to solve - here it is (I'm sorry if the task definition below sounds ambiguous): Environment =========== MS SQL 2000/2005 Task ==== A table should be able to mark itself as requiring batch time consuming calculation to be executed by setting *its own* CalcRequired flag field when any of its fields are getting updated, or when any or its child table's rows are getting inserted, updated or deleted. The same CalcRequired flag should be still possible to set or to *clear* by explicit UPDATE sql statement. (Note: The definition of the above task is almost complete but some ambiguity in its definition is left to force you to think through and to effectively solve all the possible cases) Restrictions: ============= - there couldn't be any other auxiliary/temporary tables used in this task solutuion Typical application: ==================== 1. An [Order] and an [OrderDetail] tables. 2. [Order] table has to get lengthy [AnalyseOrderDetailsAndCalcTotals] procedure to be scheduled for execution when any of the [Order] table row fields are updated or when any of the child [OrderDetail] table rows related to the parent [Order] table row are inserted, updated or deleted 3. The scheduling of [AnalyseOrderDetailsAndCalcTotals] procedure to run is considered to be done when [Order].[CalcRequired] flag field is set to 1. 4. Lengthy [AnalyseOrderDetailsAndCalcTotals] procedure can be activated e.g. by Windows Service, which analyses value of [Order].[CalcRequired] flag, or this could be an MS SQL server job, which runs periodically, starts stored procedure, which checks value of [Order].[CalcRequired] flag of [Order] table rows, and runs [AnalyseOrderDetailsAndCalcTotals] (stored) procedure for the ones of them having this flag field equal to 1; when calculation is done then flag is set back to 0 (cleared). Or calculation can be done by an external program, (web) service etc., which supply the values to be used to update [Order] and [OrderDetail] table's rows and then clear [Order].[CalcRequired] flag field. Solution ========= - I think I have one to be published and criticized and improved in a day here, do you? Note ===== the above task seems to be an ordinary routine one but I somehow didn't need to get it done in the past, and therefore I got "trapped" by it today having many other complicated things todo and thinking this simple one can be solved by "cowboy attack": - I was wrong! - I needed to talk to my colleague to get it solved, and after he proposed the solution/approach I did think before but somehow didn't elaborate/dig into it good enough to get it done by myself... If you do have the solution for the above task from you past experience please wait and do not publish it here within a day, please give the others a chance to get it done by themselves... It's really simple when you have its solution at your hands... Or I'm missing something again today? Thank you. -- Shamil From shamil at smsconsulting.spb.ru Fri Jul 11 06:37:18 2008 From: shamil at smsconsulting.spb.ru (Shamil Salakhetdinov) Date: Fri, 11 Jul 2008 15:37:18 +0400 Subject: [AccessD] Feeling myself really stupid today - OT(?): MS SQL2000/2005 development issue... In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <122401c8e34a$7955cb90$6401a8c0@nant> Hello Gustav, Yes, T-SQL trigger can be used to set the flag on main(parent) table update - that would be its Update trigger... ...Another question is how having such a trigger to let still to get the cleared or set from other tables' triggers/other SPs, other client code... My yesterday trap was related to the latter issue - it's solved now on T-SQL (database) level only, and no any CLR triggers involved as I'm trying to keep my solutions as simple as possible without involving any of the "best * cool new technologies" when there is no need in that - I will post here my solution tomorrow... ...Giving you a chance to find your own solution and to post it here... Thank you. -- Shamil -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gustav Brock Sent: Friday, July 11, 2008 3:12 PM To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: Re: [AccessD] Feeling myself really stupid today - OT(?): MS SQL2000/2005 development issue... Hi Shamil Isn't that what a T-SQL trigger is for? Or, for this "lengthy [AnalyseOrderDetailsAndCalcTotals] procedure", a CLR SQL Server trigger? http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/938d9dz2.aspx Pass the flag to the trigger. If the flag is zero, the trigger just exits. Or - as I would suspect you to - if you have a DataTable object, catch the CRUD events like: private void ChildInsertTrigger() { _childDataTable.TableNewRow += new DataTableNewRowEventHandler(_childDataTable_TableNewRow); } void _childDataTable_TableNewRow(object sender, DataTableNewRowEventArgs e) { // Pop a message. MessageBox.Show(e.Row.ToString()); // Run trigger code if flag of _parentDataTableRow is True. If (_parentRow.ExecuteFlag == True) { // Run lengthy [AnalyseOrderDetailsAndCalcTotals] procedure } } I much prefer the last option as I have the opinion that higher level logic and procedures should be kept off the database engine. Looking forward to the clever solution from you and your friend! /gustav >>> shamil at smsconsulting.spb.ru 11-07-2008 00:21 >>> Hi All, I must say I'm feeling myself really stupid today as I have got trapped for a couple of hours by a simple(?) task to solve - here it is (I'm sorry if the task definition below sounds ambiguous): Environment =========== MS SQL 2000/2005 Task ==== A table should be able to mark itself as requiring batch time consuming calculation to be executed by setting *its own* CalcRequired flag field when any of its fields are getting updated, or when any or its child table's rows are getting inserted, updated or deleted. The same CalcRequired flag should be still possible to set or to *clear* by explicit UPDATE sql statement. (Note: The definition of the above task is almost complete but some ambiguity in its definition is left to force you to think through and to effectively solve all the possible cases) Restrictions: ============= - there couldn't be any other auxiliary/temporary tables used in this task solutuion Typical application: ==================== 1. An [Order] and an [OrderDetail] tables. 2. [Order] table has to get lengthy [AnalyseOrderDetailsAndCalcTotals] procedure to be scheduled for execution when any of the [Order] table row fields are updated or when any of the child [OrderDetail] table rows related to the parent [Order] table row are inserted, updated or deleted 3. The scheduling of [AnalyseOrderDetailsAndCalcTotals] procedure to run is considered to be done when [Order].[CalcRequired] flag field is set to 1. 4. Lengthy [AnalyseOrderDetailsAndCalcTotals] procedure can be activated e.g. by Windows Service, which analyses value of [Order].[CalcRequired] flag, or this could be an MS SQL server job, which runs periodically, starts stored procedure, which checks value of [Order].[CalcRequired] flag of [Order] table rows, and runs [AnalyseOrderDetailsAndCalcTotals] (stored) procedure for the ones of them having this flag field equal to 1; when calculation is done then flag is set back to 0 (cleared). Or calculation can be done by an external program, (web) service etc., which supply the values to be used to update [Order] and [OrderDetail] table's rows and then clear [Order].[CalcRequired] flag field. Solution ========= - I think I have one to be published and criticized and improved in a day here, do you? Note ===== the above task seems to be an ordinary routine one but I somehow didn't need to get it done in the past, and therefore I got "trapped" by it today having many other complicated things todo and thinking this simple one can be solved by "cowboy attack": - I was wrong! - I needed to talk to my colleague to get it solved, and after he proposed the solution/approach I did think before but somehow didn't elaborate/dig into it good enough to get it done by myself... If you do have the solution for the above task from you past experience please wait and do not publish it here within a day, please give the others a chance to get it done by themselves... It's really simple when you have its solution at your hands... Or I'm missing something again today? Thank you. -- Shamil -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From fuller.artful at gmail.com Fri Jul 11 07:01:39 2008 From: fuller.artful at gmail.com (Arthur Fuller) Date: Fri, 11 Jul 2008 09:01:39 -0300 Subject: [AccessD] Date format question Message-ID: <29f585dd0807110501r2d17132dh1bb2f1cd738c54f0@mail.gmail.com> My user wants her dates to be displayed and edit-masked like this: 2008/07/11 (for today). The little wizard doesn't seem to have this option. How would I set this up? TIA, Arthur From iggy at nanaimo.ark.com Fri Jul 11 10:05:26 2008 From: iggy at nanaimo.ark.com (Tony Septav) Date: Fri, 11 Jul 2008 08:05:26 -0700 Subject: [AccessD] Date format question In-Reply-To: <29f585dd0807110501r2d17132dh1bb2f1cd738c54f0@mail.gmail.com> References: <29f585dd0807110501r2d17132dh1bb2f1cd738c54f0@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <487776B6.8030603@nanaimo.ark.com> Hey Arthur Just quickly could you not Mask 0000/00/00 Format yyyy/mm/dd Did a quick test and it seems to work. Typed in 2008/12/25 and it displays in a table 12/25/08 Arthur Fuller wrote: >My user wants her dates to be displayed and edit-masked like this: >2008/07/11 (for today). The little wizard doesn't seem to have this option. >How would I set this up? > >TIA, >Arthur > > From DWUTKA at Marlow.com Fri Jul 11 11:09:09 2008 From: DWUTKA at Marlow.com (Drew Wutka) Date: Fri, 11 Jul 2008 11:09:09 -0500 Subject: [AccessD] A2203: Date Format Issues In-Reply-To: <200807110635.m6B6Zl5V024885@databaseadvisors.com> Message-ID: Are you creating this SQL in code? If so, use DateSerial to 'put' the date into the SQL and you'll never have a problem. Drew -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Darren D Sent: Friday, July 11, 2008 1:36 AM To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' Subject: [AccessD] A2203: Date Format Issues Hi Team I have a new machine - SO maybe this date question is a regional setting issue Anyhow - I am trying to show all accounts created in a db since a certain date When I debug the recordsource SQL that is supposed to 'feed' the form I see select * from tblAccount where DateCreated >= #4/07/2008# Excellent - Over here in Oz we want dd/mm/yyy date formatting So to me this SQL will show me all the accounts created since the 4th July 2008 But it does not It ends up showing me all the accounts created since 7th April Arrrgggghhhh I have made all the neseccary changes to regional settings Help please Darren -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com The information contained in this transmission is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain II-VI Proprietary and/or II-VI Business Sensitive material. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender immediately and destroy the material in its entirety, whether electronic or hard copy. You are notified that any review, retransmission, copying, disclosure, dissemination, or other use of, or taking of any action in reliance upon this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient is prohibited. From fuller.artful at gmail.com Fri Jul 11 11:17:59 2008 From: fuller.artful at gmail.com (Arthur Fuller) Date: Fri, 11 Jul 2008 13:17:59 -0300 Subject: [AccessD] Date format question In-Reply-To: <487776B6.8030603@nanaimo.ark.com> References: <29f585dd0807110501r2d17132dh1bb2f1cd738c54f0@mail.gmail.com> <487776B6.8030603@nanaimo.ark.com> Message-ID: <29f585dd0807110917t3f108f50mf7ba40bb9dfa7caa@mail.gmail.com> Thanks, Tony! Arthur On Fri, Jul 11, 2008 at 12:05 PM, Tony Septav wrote: > Hey Arthur > Just quickly could you not > Mask 0000/00/00 > Format yyyy/mm/dd > Did a quick test and it seems to work. > Typed in 2008/12/25 and it displays in a table 12/25/08 > > From fuller.artful at gmail.com Sat Jul 12 05:06:52 2008 From: fuller.artful at gmail.com (Arthur Fuller) Date: Sat, 12 Jul 2008 07:06:52 -0300 Subject: [AccessD] Filter By Form problems Message-ID: <29f585dd0807120306j82d709ds41a829e9ee4d7863@mail.gmail.com> I got some code from someplace that was alleged to handle the Filter-by-form situation. For a while it seemed to work but then it went sideways and now I have to figure out a solution to the problem. Does anyone have any code I might try out to solve this, or alternatively to volunteer a second pair of eyes to look at the current code and see what's going wrong? (The "second pair of eyes" theory I mentioned has proven itself many times. It often happens that a colleague can spot what is wrong in two minutes while you have wasted two days puzzling over it. Exhibit A is this list.) Arthur From pedro at plex.nl Sat Jul 12 07:21:27 2008 From: pedro at plex.nl (Pedro Janssen) Date: Sat, 12 Jul 2008 14:21:27 +0200 Subject: [AccessD] no automatic round up/off References: Message-ID: <001201c8e419$cf8d04e0$400aa8c0@qmotionfaa3ad9> Hello Gustav, nothing worked on the form that i was using. So i made a new form with the same fields and it worked fine. Can a form also be corrupt? Pedro ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gustav Brock" To: Sent: Friday, July 11, 2008 12:18 PM Subject: Re: [AccessD] no automatic round up/off > Hi Pedro > > A Single will not round to an integer. > Sounds like you need to remove or adjust the format of the fields > (TextBoxes) of the form. Just a switch to Currency will not do it. > > /gustav > >>>> pedro at plex.nl 11-07-2008 12:01 >>> > Hello Gustav, > > i made a typing error, i meant single. > So it still is best to use currency? Or is there another method that there > is no automatic round up/of? > > Pedro > > In antwoord op: > >> From: "Gustav Brock" >> To: >> Date: Fri, 11 Jul 2008 11:28:19 +0200 >> Subject: Re: [AccessD] no automatic round up/off >> >> >> Hi Pedro >> >> Data type Integer and Long and Byte have per definition no decimals. >> If four decimals is fine, use Currency for the field. Else Single or >> Double. Avoid Decimal as this is known to be buggy. >> >> /gustav >> >> >>> pedro at plex.nl 11-07-2008 10:06 >>> >> Dear List, >> >> i have a form with a recordsource to a query, which is related to a >> table, in a access 2003 database (and filerange of access 2000). >> Teh table has numeric fields with Integer field length, 1 decimal place >> and a notation that is set to: #,# >> Also the fields in the query and form are set to 1 decimal place and >> notation #,# >> >> each time a place a value in the form like 5,4 it is round off to 5,0. >> But i want the original value 5,4 as data. No rouding up or off. >> >> How can i do this? >> >> Thanks >> >> Pedro > > > -- > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > From Gustav at cactus.dk Sat Jul 12 07:34:34 2008 From: Gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock) Date: Sat, 12 Jul 2008 14:34:34 +0200 Subject: [AccessD] no automatic round up/off Message-ID: Hi Pedro Yes, that happens. /gustav >>> pedro at plex.nl 12-07-2008 14:21 >>> Hello Gustav, nothing worked on the form that i was using. So i made a new form with the same fields and it worked fine. Can a form also be corrupt? Pedro ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gustav Brock" To: Sent: Friday, July 11, 2008 12:18 PM Subject: Re: [AccessD] no automatic round up/off > Hi Pedro > > A Single will not round to an integer. > Sounds like you need to remove or adjust the format of the fields > (TextBoxes) of the form. Just a switch to Currency will not do it. > > /gustav > >>>> pedro at plex.nl 11-07-2008 12:01 >>> > Hello Gustav, > > i made a typing error, i meant single. > So it still is best to use currency? Or is there another method that there > is no automatic round up/of? > > Pedro > > In antwoord op: > >> From: "Gustav Brock" >> To: >> Date: Fri, 11 Jul 2008 11:28:19 +0200 >> Subject: Re: [AccessD] no automatic round up/off >> >> >> Hi Pedro >> >> Data type Integer and Long and Byte have per definition no decimals. >> If four decimals is fine, use Currency for the field. Else Single or >> Double. Avoid Decimal as this is known to be buggy. >> >> /gustav >> >> >>> pedro at plex.nl 11-07-2008 10:06 >>> >> Dear List, >> >> i have a form with a recordsource to a query, which is related to a >> table, in a access 2003 database (and filerange of access 2000). >> Teh table has numeric fields with Integer field length, 1 decimal place >> and a notation that is set to: #,# >> Also the fields in the query and form are set to 1 decimal place and >> notation #,# >> >> each time a place a value in the form like 5,4 it is round off to 5,0. >> But i want the original value 5,4 as data. No rouding up or off. >> >> How can i do this? >> >> Thanks >> >> Pedro From rockysmolin at bchacc.com Sat Jul 12 08:37:06 2008 From: rockysmolin at bchacc.com (Rocky Smolin at Beach Access Software) Date: Sat, 12 Jul 2008 06:37:06 -0700 Subject: [AccessD] Filter By Form problems In-Reply-To: <29f585dd0807120306j82d709ds41a829e9ee4d7863@mail.gmail.com> References: <29f585dd0807120306j82d709ds41a829e9ee4d7863@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <013401c8e424$60581500$0301a8c0@HAL9005> Arthur: Send it over with an explanation of what's going wrong and I'll try to take a look. Rocky Smolin Beach Access Software 858-259-4334 www.e-z-mrp.com www.bchacc.com -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Arthur Fuller Sent: Saturday, July 12, 2008 3:07 AM To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving Subject: [AccessD] Filter By Form problems I got some code from someplace that was alleged to handle the Filter-by-form situation. For a while it seemed to work but then it went sideways and now I have to figure out a solution to the problem. Does anyone have any code I might try out to solve this, or alternatively to volunteer a second pair of eyes to look at the current code and see what's going wrong? (The "second pair of eyes" theory I mentioned has proven itself many times. It often happens that a colleague can spot what is wrong in two minutes while you have wasted two days puzzling over it. Exhibit A is this list.) Arthur -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From ssharkins at gmail.com Sat Jul 12 08:37:54 2008 From: ssharkins at gmail.com (Susan Harkins) Date: Sat, 12 Jul 2008 09:37:54 -0400 Subject: [AccessD] Filter By Form problems References: <29f585dd0807120306j82d709ds41a829e9ee4d7863@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <06d401c8e424$80fc8ed0$2f8601c7@SusanOne> Arthur, I'm just curious -- if the Filter By Form is giving you so much trouble, why not just use a filter control and some SQL -- are you obliged to use FBF? SUsan H. >I got some code from someplace that was alleged to handle the >Filter-by-form > situation. For a while it seemed to work but then it went sideways and now > I > have to figure out a solution to the problem. Does anyone have any code I > might try out to solve this, or alternatively to volunteer a second pair > of > eyes to look at the current code and see what's going wrong? From fuller.artful at gmail.com Sat Jul 12 10:33:46 2008 From: fuller.artful at gmail.com (Arthur Fuller) Date: Sat, 12 Jul 2008 12:33:46 -0300 Subject: [AccessD] Filter By Form problems In-Reply-To: <013401c8e424$60581500$0301a8c0@HAL9005> References: <29f585dd0807120306j82d709ds41a829e9ee4d7863@mail.gmail.com> <013401c8e424$60581500$0301a8c0@HAL9005> Message-ID: <29f585dd0807120833m1b96d885mc4721bd8fd036a7d@mail.gmail.com> I'm using FBF because the client wanted that. One complicating factor is that when they decide to FBF the form is currently all in no-edits mode. So I have code that introduces a toolbar with some buttons on it, and turns the controls to edit-able, but things are going sideways and I don't know what to do. Rocky, I will send you a pair of zips (FE and BE), and my thanks for your second pair of eyes. A. On Sat, Jul 12, 2008 at 10:37 AM, Rocky Smolin at Beach Access Software < rockysmolin at bchacc.com> wrote: > Arthur: > > Send it over with an explanation of what's going wrong and I'll try to take > a look. > > > Rocky Smolin > Beach Access Software > 858-259-4334 > www.e-z-mrp.com > www.bchacc.com > > > From lembit.dbamail at t-online.de Sat Jul 12 15:40:03 2008 From: lembit.dbamail at t-online.de (Lembit Soobik) Date: Sat, 12 Jul 2008 22:40:03 +0200 Subject: [AccessD] File Attributes References: <200807100411.m6A4Bjtx031768@databaseadvisors.com> Message-ID: <001901c8e45f$767abb40$1800a8c0@s1800> Hi all, In Access 2002 I want to modify the date/time created/modified of a lot of files. There are properties like .DateLastModified in the Scripting.FileSystemObject. However they are all read-only. Is there a way how to modify these dates in Access 2002? I need this for changing the time of digital photos by 1 or 2 hours due to timezone changes. thank you Lembit From DWUTKA at Marlow.com Sat Jul 12 19:24:46 2008 From: DWUTKA at Marlow.com (Drew Wutka) Date: Sat, 12 Jul 2008 19:24:46 -0500 Subject: [AccessD] File Attributes In-Reply-To: <001901c8e45f$767abb40$1800a8c0@s1800> Message-ID: I sent you a solution off list. Drew -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Lembit Soobik Sent: Saturday, July 12, 2008 3:40 PM To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving Subject: [AccessD] File Attributes Hi all, In Access 2002 I want to modify the date/time created/modified of a lot of files. There are properties like .DateLastModified in the Scripting.FileSystemObject. However they are all read-only. Is there a way how to modify these dates in Access 2002? I need this for changing the time of digital photos by 1 or 2 hours due to timezone changes. thank you Lembit -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com The information contained in this transmission is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain II-VI Proprietary and/or II-VI Business Sensitive material. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender immediately and destroy the material in its entirety, whether electronic or hard copy. You are notified that any review, retransmission, copying, disclosure, dissemination, or other use of, or taking of any action in reliance upon this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient is prohibited. From lembit.dbamail at t-online.de Sun Jul 13 06:39:04 2008 From: lembit.dbamail at t-online.de (Lembit Soobik) Date: Sun, 13 Jul 2008 13:39:04 +0200 Subject: [AccessD] File Attributes References: Message-ID: <001001c8e4dd$0d9800f0$1800a8c0@s1800> Thank you, Drew, that's a great piece of code with comments that explain everything. I didnt know that file date/times are stored in GMT, but displayed in local time. Lembit ----- Original Message ----- From: "Drew Wutka" To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving" Sent: Sunday, July 13, 2008 2:24 AM Subject: Re: [AccessD] File Attributes >I sent you a solution off list. > > Drew > > -----Original Message----- > From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Lembit Soobik > Sent: Saturday, July 12, 2008 3:40 PM > To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving > Subject: [AccessD] File Attributes > > Hi all, > In Access 2002 I want to modify the date/time created/modified of a lot > of > files. > There are properties like .DateLastModified in the > Scripting.FileSystemObject. > However they are all read-only. > Is there a way how to modify these dates in Access 2002? > > I need this for changing the time of digital photos by 1 or 2 hours due > to > timezone changes. > > thank you > Lembit > > -- > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > The information contained in this transmission is intended only for the > person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain II-VI > Proprietary and/or II-VI Business Sensitive material. If you are not the > intended recipient, please contact the sender immediately and destroy the > material in its entirety, whether electronic or hard copy. You are > notified that any review, retransmission, copying, disclosure, > dissemination, or other use of, or taking of any action in reliance upon > this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient > is prohibited. > > > -- > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG. > Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 270.4.10/1549 - Release Date: > 12.07.2008 16:31 > From DWUTKA at Marlow.com Sun Jul 13 12:52:54 2008 From: DWUTKA at Marlow.com (Drew Wutka) Date: Sun, 13 Jul 2008 12:52:54 -0500 Subject: [AccessD] File Attributes In-Reply-To: <001001c8e4dd$0d9800f0$1800a8c0@s1800> Message-ID: Couldn't agree more. I rarely use other people's code like that, but that module was so well put together, there was just no point in recreating it in my own style! In case anyone is interested, here's a link to the site that has the code: http://www.cpearson.com/excel/FileTimes.htm Drew -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Lembit Soobik Sent: Sunday, July 13, 2008 6:39 AM To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving Subject: Re: [AccessD] File Attributes Thank you, Drew, that's a great piece of code with comments that explain everything. I didnt know that file date/times are stored in GMT, but displayed in local time. Lembit ----- Original Message ----- From: "Drew Wutka" To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving" Sent: Sunday, July 13, 2008 2:24 AM Subject: Re: [AccessD] File Attributes >I sent you a solution off list. > > Drew > > -----Original Message----- > From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Lembit Soobik > Sent: Saturday, July 12, 2008 3:40 PM > To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving > Subject: [AccessD] File Attributes > > Hi all, > In Access 2002 I want to modify the date/time created/modified of a lot > of > files. > There are properties like .DateLastModified in the > Scripting.FileSystemObject. > However they are all read-only. > Is there a way how to modify these dates in Access 2002? > > I need this for changing the time of digital photos by 1 or 2 hours due > to > timezone changes. > > thank you > Lembit > > -- > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > The information contained in this transmission is intended only for the > person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain II-VI > Proprietary and/or II-VI Business Sensitive material. If you are not the > intended recipient, please contact the sender immediately and destroy the > material in its entirety, whether electronic or hard copy. You are > notified that any review, retransmission, copying, disclosure, > dissemination, or other use of, or taking of any action in reliance upon > this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient > is prohibited. > > > -- > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG. > Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 270.4.10/1549 - Release Date: > 12.07.2008 16:31 > -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com The information contained in this transmission is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain II-VI Proprietary and/or II-VI Business Sensitive material. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender immediately and destroy the material in its entirety, whether electronic or hard copy. You are notified that any review, retransmission, copying, disclosure, dissemination, or other use of, or taking of any action in reliance upon this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient is prohibited. From jwelz at hotmail.com Sun Jul 13 16:30:22 2008 From: jwelz at hotmail.com (Jurgen Welz) Date: Sun, 13 Jul 2008 15:30:22 -0600 Subject: [AccessD] File Attributes In-Reply-To: <001901c8e45f$767abb40$1800a8c0@s1800> References: <200807100411.m6A4Bjtx031768@databaseadvisors.com> <001901c8e45f$767abb40$1800a8c0@s1800> Message-ID: I have users who need to assemble a series of Material Safety Data Sheets, MSDS, provided by suppliers of products. The documents supply information about the hazards of the products. Users download these documents from supplier websites or scan them from hard copy and save them to a folder. I allow my users to select applicable MSDS for a project by displaying a multi select list box. Each MSDS has an expiry date that is 3 years from the date of issue. I don't like to store information about the MSDS separate from the files, but prefer to allow the files to speak for themeselves. VBA provides a simple way to read the file date with the function FileDateTime. Pass it a file path and name and it returns a date data type. Once the group of files is selected, a copy of each is moved to a project folder and the date is checked. My procedure returns a message advising which MSDS are expired and which will expire within the next three months. This information is used to ensure that updated MSDS are obtained. In order for this to work, my users import any new MSDS documents into the target folder containing all the MSDS. Part of the import procedure calls a procedure that sets the file attributes to the expiry date of the MSDS. My users also set the millisecond portion of the date to the number of pages in each file so that a table of contents with correct pagination is generated as part of the procedure. All this is transparent to the users so they don't know that they are changing file attributes. The beauty of this approach is that no data needs to be stored anywhere other than with the files themselves. New MSDS are automatically available for user selection by simply importing them into a folder and using the file attributes to store pertinent meta data easily accessible by VBA. Given the GMT issue, I set the hour flag to 19 (Mountain Standard Time) and the file time is noon or 1:00 PM depending on whether daylight savings time applies at the date. The declares, constants and sub below are what I have been using to set the file date: Private Declare Function OpenFile Lib "kernel32" (ByVal lpFileName As String, _ lpReOpenBuff As OFSTRUCT, ByVal wStyle As Long) As Long Private Declare Function SystemTimeToFileTime Lib "kernel32" (lpSystemTime As SYSTEMTIME, _ lpFileTime As FILETIME) As Long Private Declare Function SetFileTime Lib "kernel32" (ByVal hFile As Long, lpCreationTime As FILETIME, _ lpLastAccessTime As FILETIME, lpLastWriteTime As FILETIME) As Long Public Declare Function CloseHandle Lib "kernel32" (ByVal hFile As Long) As Long Public Const MAX_PATH = 260 Public Const OF_READWRITE = &H2 Private Type OFSTRUCT cBytes As Byte fFixedDisk As Byte nErrCode As Integer Reserved1 As Integer Reserved2 As Integer szPathName(MAX_PATH) As ByteEnd Type Public Type SYSTEMTIME wYear As Integer wMonth As Integer wDayOfWeek As Integer wDay As Integer wHour As Integer wMinute As Integer wSecond As Integer wMilliseconds As IntegerEnd Type Public Type FILETIME dwLowDateTime As Long dwHighDateTime As LongEnd Type Public Sub SetFileDateTime(strFile As String, dte As Date) Dim hFile As Long Dim OFS As OFSTRUCT Dim st As SYSTEMTIME Dim nt As FILETIME hFile = OpenFile(strFile, OFS, OF_READWRITE) With st .wYear = DatePart("yyyy", dte) .wMonth = DatePart("m", dte) .wDay = DatePart("d", dte) .wHour = 19 .wMinute = 0 .wSecond = 0 End With SystemTimeToFileTime st, nt SetFileTime hFile, nt, nt, nt CloseHandle hFileEnd Sub CiaoJ?rgen WelzEdmonton, Albertajwelz at hotmail.com> From: lembit.dbamail at t-online.de> To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com> Date: Sat, 12 Jul 2008 22:40:03 +0200> Subject: [AccessD] File Attributes> > Hi all,> In Access 2002 I want to modify the date/time created/modified of a lot of > files.> There are properties like .DateLastModified in the > Scripting.FileSystemObject.> However they are all read-only.> Is there a way how to modify these dates in Access 2002?> > I need this for changing the time of digital photos by 1 or 2 hours due to > timezone changes.> > thank you> Lembit _________________________________________________________________ Find hidden words, unscramble celebrity names, or try the ultimate crossword puzzle with Live Search Games. Play now! http://g.msn.ca/ca55/212 From kp at sdsonline.net Sun Jul 13 18:45:16 2008 From: kp at sdsonline.net (Kath Pelletti) Date: Mon, 14 Jul 2008 09:45:16 +1000 Subject: [AccessD] vba generic code move focus to next control References: <000b01c8e2fc$89f267e0$6401a8c0@DELLAPTOP> <003201c8e31e$6e722ec0$ac5fa27a@personald6374f> Message-ID: <004001c8e542$813cb220$6401a8c0@DELLAPTOP> Thanks for that, but that's not the case...... not when you use me.parent.requery which takes the focus away from the subform. Kath ----- Original Message ----- From: "A.D.Tejpal" To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving" Sent: Friday, July 11, 2008 4:21 PM Subject: Re: [AccessD] vba generic code move focus to next control > Kath, > > Although programmatic generic solution for forcing focus to next > control is available, it should not be necessary in your case. > > In Tools > Options, make sure that on Keyboard tab, Move After Enter is > set to Next Field. With this, the focus after update action will move to > the next control. No special code would be needed. Your existing statement > for setting the focus to current control is also apparently redundant. > > Best wishes, > A.D.Tejpal > ------------ > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Kath Pelletti > To: Access D Normal List > Sent: Friday, July 11, 2008 07:49 > Subject: [AccessD] vba generic code move focus to next control > > > Hi all - > > I am looking for some code/command to move focus to the next control on a > subform . Before I start mucking around with retrieving the tab index for > the current control and trying to use that to move to the next one, just > want to check. Am I missing something simple? Is there some simple command > or code which would do something like 'GotoControl - Next?' > > I could (of course) nominate the name of the control I want to go to but > as I will need to use this code for many controls, i want something > generic. > tia > Kath > > Existing code for subcontrol: > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Private Sub SpecialDiet_AfterUpdate() > Dim strerrormsg As String > On Error GoTo Err_Handler > > Me.DateLastRevised = CurrentDate() > Me.Parent.Requery > Me.SpecialDiet.setfocus > 'TAB TO NEXT CONTROL > > Normal_exit: > DoCmd.SetWarnings True > Exit Sub > Err_Handler: > MsgBox "Error: [" & Err.Number & "] " & IIf(Len(strerrormsg) > 0, > strerrormsg, Err.Description), vbCritical, "Error Message" > Resume Normal_exit > End Sub > ______________________________________ > Kath Pelletti > Software Design and Solutions Pty Ltd > Ph: 9505-6714 > Fax: 9505-6430 > kp at sdsonline.net > -- > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > From kp at sdsonline.net Sun Jul 13 18:49:01 2008 From: kp at sdsonline.net (Kath Pelletti) Date: Mon, 14 Jul 2008 09:49:01 +1000 Subject: [AccessD] vba generic code move focus to next control References: <000b01c8e2fc$89f267e0$6401a8c0@DELLAPTOP><004c01c8e288$c23238c0$2f8601c7@SusanOne><000701c8e361$edbae300$6401a8c0@DELLAPTOP> <023001c8e29c$d1bdc6b0$2f8601c7@SusanOne> Message-ID: <004601c8e543$06d12b00$6401a8c0@DELLAPTOP> Thanks Susan - that was an interesting article. I ended up having one of those "Why is this so difficult????" moments and went back to the design of what I was doing.............. changed it completely - took out the me.parent.requery statement and moved it..... problem solved for now. kath ----- Original Message ----- From: "Susan Harkins" To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving" Sent: Friday, July 11, 2008 12:54 AM Subject: Re: [AccessD] vba generic code move focus to next control > http://articles.techrepublic.com.com/5100-10878_11-5058240.html > > I hope you find something in this article to help. > > Susan H. > > >> No - just an ordinary subform. > > -- > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > From kp at sdsonline.net Sun Jul 13 18:49:42 2008 From: kp at sdsonline.net (Kath Pelletti) Date: Mon, 14 Jul 2008 09:49:42 +1000 Subject: [AccessD] get focus back to subform - URGENT References: <200807100411.m6A4Bjtx031768@databaseadvisors.com> Message-ID: <005801c8e543$1f70e100$6401a8c0@DELLAPTOP> Thanks Darren ----- Original Message ----- From: "Darren D" To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'" Sent: Thursday, July 10, 2008 2:11 PM Subject: Re: [AccessD] get focus back to subform - URGENT > Hi Kath > > Be explicit then - Something like > > ...Some Code > me.parent.requery > 'Then > Forms!frmSomeMainForm.form.somesubform.somesubformcontrol.setfocus > ...some code > > Re your earlier post about moving between controls > I assume you want the user to just tab away happily and move between the > subform and the main form without really knowing or seeing any difference > > I do this explicitly too - I determine the 'last' control on the main form > then on the 'lostfocus' of that field I have something like > Forms!frmSomeMainForm.form.somesubform.somesubformcontrol.setfocus > And the reverse on the last control on the sub form > > There are probably better ways to do this but this is simple and it works > for end user navigation well enough > > See ya > > DD > > -----Original Message----- > From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Kath Pelletti > Sent: Friday, 11 July 2008 1:52 PM > To: Access D Normal List > Subject: [AccessD] get focus back to subform - URGENT > > Must be a bad day.... > >>From a control on a subform, when I say > me.parent.requery, > > I then cannot get the focus back to my control on the subform using: > > me.controlname.setfocus. > > Any tips? This should be easy stuff but driving me mad today......... > tia > > Kath > ______________________________________ > Kath Pelletti > -- > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > -- > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > From Darryl.Collins at coles.com.au Sun Jul 13 19:13:56 2008 From: Darryl.Collins at coles.com.au (Darryl Collins) Date: Mon, 14 Jul 2008 10:13:56 +1000 Subject: [AccessD] no automatic round up/off In-Reply-To: <001201c8e419$cf8d04e0$400aa8c0@qmotionfaa3ad9> Message-ID: <57E6E6CA42105A48B977303A2CDC2720076BF12D29@WPEXCH22.retail.ad.cmltd.net.au> "Can a form also be corrupt?" Pedro, Even in my limited experience I have had several forms go corrupt. It is hard to diagnose at first, but often just replacing the form with a backup (or new version) will resolve the issue - it is certainly worth a try and can save you (well me at least) hours of annoyance. regards Darryl -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Pedro Janssen Sent: Saturday, 12 July 2008 10:21 PM To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving Subject: Re: [AccessD] no automatic round up/off Hello Gustav, nothing worked on the form that i was using. So i made a new form with the same fields and it worked fine. Can a form also be corrupt? Pedro ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gustav Brock" To: Sent: Friday, July 11, 2008 12:18 PM Subject: Re: [AccessD] no automatic round up/off > Hi Pedro > > A Single will not round to an integer. > Sounds like you need to remove or adjust the format of the fields > (TextBoxes) of the form. Just a switch to Currency will not do it. > > /gustav > >>>> pedro at plex.nl 11-07-2008 12:01 >>> > Hello Gustav, > > i made a typing error, i meant single. > So it still is best to use currency? Or is there another method that there > is no automatic round up/of? > > Pedro > > In antwoord op: > >> From: "Gustav Brock" >> To: >> Date: Fri, 11 Jul 2008 11:28:19 +0200 >> Subject: Re: [AccessD] no automatic round up/off >> >> >> Hi Pedro >> >> Data type Integer and Long and Byte have per definition no decimals. >> If four decimals is fine, use Currency for the field. Else Single or >> Double. Avoid Decimal as this is known to be buggy. >> >> /gustav >> >> >>> pedro at plex.nl 11-07-2008 10:06 >>> >> Dear List, >> >> i have a form with a recordsource to a query, which is related to a >> table, in a access 2003 database (and filerange of access 2000). >> Teh table has numeric fields with Integer field length, 1 decimal place >> and a notation that is set to: #,# >> Also the fields in the query and form are set to 1 decimal place and >> notation #,# >> >> each time a place a value in the form like 5,4 it is round off to 5,0. >> But i want the original value 5,4 as data. No rouding up or off. >> >> How can i do this? >> >> Thanks >> >> Pedro > > > -- > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com This email and any attachments may contain privileged and confidential information and are intended for the named addressee only. If you have received this e-mail in error, please notify the sender and delete this e-mail immediately. Any confidentiality, privilege or copyright is not waived or lost because this e-mail has been sent to you in error. It is your responsibility to check this e-mail and any attachments for viruses. No warranty is made that this material is free from computer virus or any other defect or error. Any loss/damage incurred by using this material is not the sender's responsibility. The sender's entire liability will be limited to resupplying the material. From ssharkins at gmail.com Sun Jul 13 19:35:46 2008 From: ssharkins at gmail.com (Susan Harkins) Date: Sun, 13 Jul 2008 20:35:46 -0400 Subject: [AccessD] no automatic round up/off References: <57E6E6CA42105A48B977303A2CDC2720076BF12D29@WPEXCH22.retail.ad.cmltd.net.au> Message-ID: <02f301c8e549$8ff01b70$2f8601c7@SusanOne> I had this happen with a form that had several subforms. It worked fine until we put it on the network. Turned out it was Novell flag, but of course, I was stuck with the problem and ended up recreating the form. That was a long time ago though. Susan H. > > "Can a form also be corrupt?" > > Pedro, > > Even in my limited experience I have had several forms go corrupt. It is > hard to diagnose at first, but often just replacing the form with a backup > (or new version) will resolve the issue - it is certainly worth a try and > can save you (well me at least) hours of annoyance. From krosenstiel at comcast.net Sun Jul 13 21:09:28 2008 From: krosenstiel at comcast.net (Karen) Date: Sun, 13 Jul 2008 19:09:28 -0700 Subject: [AccessD] Downgrading Vista In-Reply-To: <02f301c8e549$8ff01b70$2f8601c7@SusanOne> Message-ID: <200807140209.m6E29AuJ004387@databaseadvisors.com> I am fed up with Vista Ultimate on my laptop. I want to downgrade to XP Pro and I have 2 bootable CDs with it. However, my damn laptop won't let either one boot. It starts and then I get the Blue Screen of Death with the following (useless) message: STOP: 0x0000007E (0xC0000005, 0xF748E0BF, 0xF78DA208, 0xF78D9F08) Pci.sys - Address F748E0BF base at F7487000, Datestamp 3b7d855c How do I format the damn hard drive with Vista? TIA Regards, Karen Rosenstiel Seattle WA USA No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 270.4.10/1550 - Release Date: 7/13/2008 5:58 PM From Darryl.Collins at coles.com.au Sun Jul 13 21:33:28 2008 From: Darryl.Collins at coles.com.au (Darryl Collins) Date: Mon, 14 Jul 2008 12:33:28 +1000 Subject: [AccessD] Downgrading Vista In-Reply-To: <200807140209.m6E29AuJ004387@databaseadvisors.com> Message-ID: <57E6E6CA42105A48B977303A2CDC2720076BF12D2E@WPEXCH22.retail.ad.cmltd.net.au> Hi Karen, I took a brute force approach in the end which was most effective - although it took a few days to get everything back to how I wanted from backup drive and redown loading all the 3rd party apps from the net etc... http://www.whitecanyon.com/wipedrive-erase-hard-drive.php and then do a clean install of XP Pro off the boot disk. Although the white canyon product costs (About USD$29) I have used it a few times on different systems without bother and feel it was good value for money. Or for all the available products have a look here http://www.whitecanyon.com/identity-theft-software.php There might be one that suits your needs better. Hopefully someone has a simple and less drastic solution, although a clean install is always a nice thing. regards Darryl. -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Karen Sent: Monday, 14 July 2008 12:09 PM To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' Subject: [AccessD] Downgrading Vista I am fed up with Vista Ultimate on my laptop. I want to downgrade to XP Pro and I have 2 bootable CDs with it. However, my damn laptop won't let either one boot. It starts and then I get the Blue Screen of Death with the following (useless) message: STOP: 0x0000007E (0xC0000005, 0xF748E0BF, 0xF78DA208, 0xF78D9F08) Pci.sys - Address F748E0BF base at F7487000, Datestamp 3b7d855c How do I format the damn hard drive with Vista? TIA Regards, Karen Rosenstiel Seattle WA USA No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 270.4.10/1550 - Release Date: 7/13/2008 5:58 PM -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com This email and any attachments may contain privileged and confidential information and are intended for the named addressee only. If you have received this e-mail in error, please notify the sender and delete this e-mail immediately. Any confidentiality, privilege or copyright is not waived or lost because this e-mail has been sent to you in error. It is your responsibility to check this e-mail and any attachments for viruses. No warranty is made that this material is free from computer virus or any other defect or error. Any loss/damage incurred by using this material is not the sender's responsibility. The sender's entire liability will be limited to resupplying the material. From krosenstiel at comcast.net Sun Jul 13 22:12:32 2008 From: krosenstiel at comcast.net (Karen Rosenstiel) Date: Sun, 13 Jul 2008 20:12:32 -0700 Subject: [AccessD] Downgrading Vista In-Reply-To: <57E6E6CA42105A48B977303A2CDC2720076BF12D2E@WPEXCH22.retail.ad.cmltd.net.au> Message-ID: <200807140312.m6E3CFDs032726@databaseadvisors.com> Thanks for your suggestion. It reminded me that I have a recent version of Norton Utilities. I used the recovery disk to wipe the partition. I just repartitioned and am formatting right now. Brute force it is! Regards, Karen Rosenstiel Seattle WA USA -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Darryl Collins Sent: Sunday, July 13, 2008 7:33 PM To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' Subject: Re: [AccessD] Downgrading Vista Hi Karen, I took a brute force approach in the end which was most effective - although it took a few days to get everything back to how I wanted from backup drive and redown loading all the 3rd party apps from the net etc... http://www.whitecanyon.com/wipedrive-erase-hard-drive.php and then do a clean install of XP Pro off the boot disk. Although the white canyon product costs (About USD$29) I have used it a few times on different systems without bother and feel it was good value for money. Or for all the available products have a look here http://www.whitecanyon.com/identity-theft-software.php There might be one that suits your needs better. Hopefully someone has a simple and less drastic solution, although a clean install is always a nice thing. regards Darryl. -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Karen Sent: Monday, 14 July 2008 12:09 PM To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' Subject: [AccessD] Downgrading Vista I am fed up with Vista Ultimate on my laptop. I want to downgrade to XP Pro and I have 2 bootable CDs with it. However, my damn laptop won't let either one boot. It starts and then I get the Blue Screen of Death with the following (useless) message: STOP: 0x0000007E (0xC0000005, 0xF748E0BF, 0xF78DA208, 0xF78D9F08) Pci.sys - Address F748E0BF base at F7487000, Datestamp 3b7d855c How do I format the damn hard drive with Vista? TIA Regards, Karen Rosenstiel Seattle WA USA No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 270.4.10/1550 - Release Date: 7/13/2008 5:58 PM -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com This email and any attachments may contain privileged and confidential information and are intended for the named addressee only. If you have received this e-mail in error, please notify the sender and delete this e-mail immediately. Any confidentiality, privilege or copyright is not waived or lost because this e-mail has been sent to you in error. It is your responsibility to check this e-mail and any attachments for viruses. No warranty is made that this material is free from computer virus or any other defect or error. Any loss/damage incurred by using this material is not the sender's responsibility. The sender's entire liability will be limited to resupplying the material. -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 270.4.10/1550 - Release Date: 7/13/2008 5:58 PM No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 270.4.10/1550 - Release Date: 7/13/2008 5:58 PM From Darryl.Collins at coles.com.au Sun Jul 13 22:21:56 2008 From: Darryl.Collins at coles.com.au (Darryl Collins) Date: Mon, 14 Jul 2008 13:21:56 +1000 Subject: [AccessD] Downgrading Vista In-Reply-To: <200807140312.m6E3CFDs032726@databaseadvisors.com> Message-ID: <57E6E6CA42105A48B977303A2CDC2720076BF12D30@WPEXCH22.retail.ad.cmltd.net.au> Yeah! It is always good to show those pesky machines just who is the boss! ;) I am sooo darn stubborn when it comes to making them behave. It took me days and days to do a full reinstall on an old Dell laptop I had (I would install XP Pro and then windows update would keep crashing the PC during the update process - tried this in various forms about 7 times - each time requiring a full repair or reinstall - fun fun fun). Tried heaps of different approaches and finally decided to bypass windows update altogether. Found a copy of XP SP3 and IE7.0 online I could download and install outside of microsoft update and now all is hunky dory again. good luck with the reinstall. It is nice to have a clean disk free off all the artifacts and crudd that builds up over the years. darryl. -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Karen Rosenstiel Sent: Monday, 14 July 2008 1:13 PM To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' Subject: Re: [AccessD] Downgrading Vista Thanks for your suggestion. It reminded me that I have a recent version of Norton Utilities. I used the recovery disk to wipe the partition. I just repartitioned and am formatting right now. Brute force it is! Regards, Karen Rosenstiel Seattle WA USA -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Darryl Collins Sent: Sunday, July 13, 2008 7:33 PM To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' Subject: Re: [AccessD] Downgrading Vista Hi Karen, I took a brute force approach in the end which was most effective - although it took a few days to get everything back to how I wanted from backup drive and redown loading all the 3rd party apps from the net etc... http://www.whitecanyon.com/wipedrive-erase-hard-drive.php and then do a clean install of XP Pro off the boot disk. Although the white canyon product costs (About USD$29) I have used it a few times on different systems without bother and feel it was good value for money. Or for all the available products have a look here http://www.whitecanyon.com/identity-theft-software.php There might be one that suits your needs better. Hopefully someone has a simple and less drastic solution, although a clean install is always a nice thing. regards Darryl. -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Karen Sent: Monday, 14 July 2008 12:09 PM To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' Subject: [AccessD] Downgrading Vista I am fed up with Vista Ultimate on my laptop. I want to downgrade to XP Pro and I have 2 bootable CDs with it. However, my damn laptop won't let either one boot. It starts and then I get the Blue Screen of Death with the following (useless) message: STOP: 0x0000007E (0xC0000005, 0xF748E0BF, 0xF78DA208, 0xF78D9F08) Pci.sys - Address F748E0BF base at F7487000, Datestamp 3b7d855c How do I format the damn hard drive with Vista? TIA Regards, Karen Rosenstiel Seattle WA USA No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 270.4.10/1550 - Release Date: 7/13/2008 5:58 PM -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com This email and any attachments may contain privileged and confidential information and are intended for the named addressee only. If you have received this e-mail in error, please notify the sender and delete this e-mail immediately. Any confidentiality, privilege or copyright is not waived or lost because this e-mail has been sent to you in error. It is your responsibility to check this e-mail and any attachments for viruses. No warranty is made that this material is free from computer virus or any other defect or error. Any loss/damage incurred by using this material is not the sender's responsibility. The sender's entire liability will be limited to resupplying the material. -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 270.4.10/1550 - Release Date: 7/13/2008 5:58 PM No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 270.4.10/1550 - Release Date: 7/13/2008 5:58 PM -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com This email and any attachments may contain privileged and confidential information and are intended for the named addressee only. If you have received this e-mail in error, please notify the sender and delete this e-mail immediately. Any confidentiality, privilege or copyright is not waived or lost because this e-mail has been sent to you in error. It is your responsibility to check this e-mail and any attachments for viruses. No warranty is made that this material is free from computer virus or any other defect or error. Any loss/damage incurred by using this material is not the sender's responsibility. The sender's entire liability will be limited to resupplying the material. From stuart at lexacorp.com.pg Sun Jul 13 22:52:10 2008 From: stuart at lexacorp.com.pg (Stuart McLachlan) Date: Mon, 14 Jul 2008 13:52:10 +1000 Subject: [AccessD] Downgrading Vista In-Reply-To: <200807140209.m6E29AuJ004387@databaseadvisors.com> References: <02f301c8e549$8ff01b70$2f8601c7@SusanOne> Message-ID: <487B5A0A.9614.812F44EF@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg> On 13 Jul 2008 at 19:09, Karen wrote: > > I am fed up with Vista Ultimate on my laptop. I want to downgrade to XP Pro IMNSHO, that's an Upgrade, not a Downgrade :-) From Gustav at cactus.dk Mon Jul 14 09:28:10 2008 From: Gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock) Date: Mon, 14 Jul 2008 16:28:10 +0200 Subject: [AccessD] Feeling myself really stupid today - OT(?): MSSQL2000/2005 development issue... Message-ID: Hi Shamil I have no further suggestions. /gustav >>> shamil at smsconsulting.spb.ru 11-07-2008 13:37 >>> My yesterday trap was related to the latter issue - it's solved now on T-SQL (database) level only, and no any CLR triggers involved as I'm trying to keep my solutions as simple as possible without involving any of the "best * cool new technologies" when there is no need in that - I will post here my solution tomorrow... ...Giving you a chance to find your own solution and to post it here... From cfoust at infostatsystems.com Mon Jul 14 10:26:54 2008 From: cfoust at infostatsystems.com (Charlotte Foust) Date: Mon, 14 Jul 2008 08:26:54 -0700 Subject: [AccessD] get focus back to subform - URGENT In-Reply-To: <005801c8e543$1f70e100$6401a8c0@DELLAPTOP> References: <200807100411.m6A4Bjtx031768@databaseadvisors.com> <005801c8e543$1f70e100$6401a8c0@DELLAPTOP> Message-ID: Kath, Me.Parent.Requery is the problem, and I don't understand why you want to use it. When you requery the parent, you requery everything, so the "next" control is meaningless anyhow. Charlotte Foust -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Kath Pelletti Sent: Sunday, July 13, 2008 4:50 PM To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving Subject: Re: [AccessD] get focus back to subform - URGENT Thanks Darren ----- Original Message ----- From: "Darren D" To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'" Sent: Thursday, July 10, 2008 2:11 PM Subject: Re: [AccessD] get focus back to subform - URGENT > Hi Kath > > Be explicit then - Something like > > ...Some Code > me.parent.requery > 'Then > Forms!frmSomeMainForm.form.somesubform.somesubformcontrol.setfocus > ...some code > > Re your earlier post about moving between controls > I assume you want the user to just tab away happily and move between the > subform and the main form without really knowing or seeing any difference > > I do this explicitly too - I determine the 'last' control on the main form > then on the 'lostfocus' of that field I have something like > Forms!frmSomeMainForm.form.somesubform.somesubformcontrol.setfocus > And the reverse on the last control on the sub form > > There are probably better ways to do this but this is simple and it works > for end user navigation well enough > > See ya > > DD > > -----Original Message----- > From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Kath Pelletti > Sent: Friday, 11 July 2008 1:52 PM > To: Access D Normal List > Subject: [AccessD] get focus back to subform - URGENT > > Must be a bad day.... > >>From a control on a subform, when I say > me.parent.requery, > > I then cannot get the focus back to my control on the subform using: > > me.controlname.setfocus. > > Any tips? This should be easy stuff but driving me mad today......... > tia > > Kath > ______________________________________ > Kath Pelletti > -- > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > -- > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From cfoust at infostatsystems.com Mon Jul 14 10:28:59 2008 From: cfoust at infostatsystems.com (Charlotte Foust) Date: Mon, 14 Jul 2008 08:28:59 -0700 Subject: [AccessD] Downgrading Vista In-Reply-To: <200807140209.m6E29AuJ004387@databaseadvisors.com> References: <02f301c8e549$8ff01b70$2f8601c7@SusanOne> <200807140209.m6E29AuJ004387@databaseadvisors.com> Message-ID: Depending on the machine you have, it may not be possible. Apparently some manufacturers don't provide XP drivers for their devices now that Vista is out. I have a friend who does this kind of thing for a living and he's had HP laptops that simply could not be downgraded to XP and work. Charlotte Foust -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Karen Sent: Sunday, July 13, 2008 7:09 PM To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' Subject: [AccessD] Downgrading Vista I am fed up with Vista Ultimate on my laptop. I want to downgrade to XP Pro and I have 2 bootable CDs with it. However, my damn laptop won't let either one boot. It starts and then I get the Blue Screen of Death with the following (useless) message: STOP: 0x0000007E (0xC0000005, 0xF748E0BF, 0xF78DA208, 0xF78D9F08) Pci.sys - Address F748E0BF base at F7487000, Datestamp 3b7d855c How do I format the damn hard drive with Vista? TIA Regards, Karen Rosenstiel Seattle WA USA No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 270.4.10/1550 - Release Date: 7/13/2008 5:58 PM -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From tinanfields at torchlake.com Mon Jul 14 10:37:16 2008 From: tinanfields at torchlake.com (Tina Norris Fields) Date: Mon, 14 Jul 2008 11:37:16 -0400 Subject: [AccessD] Downgrading Vista In-Reply-To: <487B5A0A.9614.812F44EF@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg> References: <02f301c8e549$8ff01b70$2f8601c7@SusanOne> <487B5A0A.9614.812F44EF@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg> Message-ID: <487B72AC.4010408@torchlake.com> Amen! Stuart McLachlan wrote: > On 13 Jul 2008 at 19:09, Karen wrote: > > >> >> I am fed up with Vista Ultimate on my laptop. I want to downgrade to XP Pro >> > > > IMNSHO, that's an Upgrade, not a Downgrade :-) > > > From DWUTKA at Marlow.com Mon Jul 14 10:35:39 2008 From: DWUTKA at Marlow.com (Drew Wutka) Date: Mon, 14 Jul 2008 10:35:39 -0500 Subject: [AccessD] Downgrading Vista In-Reply-To: Message-ID: There are also hardware changes that work in Vista and not XP, such as the new Serial ATA hard drives. Doing an install with Vista, and it flies right through, try to install with XP, and it won't even see the hard drive! Drew -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Charlotte Foust Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 10:29 AM To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving Subject: Re: [AccessD] Downgrading Vista Depending on the machine you have, it may not be possible. Apparently some manufacturers don't provide XP drivers for their devices now that Vista is out. I have a friend who does this kind of thing for a living and he's had HP laptops that simply could not be downgraded to XP and work. Charlotte Foust -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Karen Sent: Sunday, July 13, 2008 7:09 PM To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' Subject: [AccessD] Downgrading Vista I am fed up with Vista Ultimate on my laptop. I want to downgrade to XP Pro and I have 2 bootable CDs with it. However, my damn laptop won't let either one boot. It starts and then I get the Blue Screen of Death with the following (useless) message: STOP: 0x0000007E (0xC0000005, 0xF748E0BF, 0xF78DA208, 0xF78D9F08) Pci.sys - Address F748E0BF base at F7487000, Datestamp 3b7d855c How do I format the damn hard drive with Vista? TIA Regards, Karen Rosenstiel Seattle WA USA No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 270.4.10/1550 - Release Date: 7/13/2008 5:58 PM -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com The information contained in this transmission is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain II-VI Proprietary and/or II-VI Business Sensitive material. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender immediately and destroy the material in its entirety, whether electronic or hard copy. You are notified that any review, retransmission, copying, disclosure, dissemination, or other use of, or taking of any action in reliance upon this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient is prohibited. From krosenstiel at comcast.net Mon Jul 14 10:48:12 2008 From: krosenstiel at comcast.net (krosenstiel at comcast.net) Date: Mon, 14 Jul 2008 15:48:12 +0000 Subject: [AccessD] Downgrading Vista Message-ID: <071420081548.28881.487B753B000F3374000070D12216554886040A079B9C020A9C019D05@comcast.net> I'm beginning to worry that might be the case here, and I'm PISSED. After repartitioning and formatting the c: drive, my 2 different XP disks wouldn't work. However, the XP disk for my CURRENT XP machine, somewhat older than the laptop I'm redoing, does work -- but I can't use it because it's still on my desktop. I'm going to work on it again tonight after work. Maybe it's time to go to Linux.... -- Karen Rosenstiel Seattle WA USA -------------- Original message ---------------------- From: "Charlotte Foust" > Depending on the machine you have, it may not be possible. Apparently > some manufacturers don't provide XP drivers for their devices now that > Vista is out. I have a friend who does this kind of thing for a living > and he's had HP laptops that simply could not be downgraded to XP and > work. > > Charlotte Foust > > -----Original Message----- > From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Karen > Sent: Sunday, July 13, 2008 7:09 PM > To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' > Subject: [AccessD] Downgrading Vista > > > I am fed up with Vista Ultimate on my laptop. I want to downgrade to XP > Pro and I have 2 bootable CDs with it. However, my damn laptop won't let > either one boot. It starts and then I get the Blue Screen of Death with > the following (useless) message: > > STOP: 0x0000007E > (0xC0000005, 0xF748E0BF, 0xF78DA208, 0xF78D9F08) > > Pci.sys - Address F748E0BF base at F7487000, Datestamp 3b7d855c > > How do I format the damn hard drive with Vista? > > TIA > > Regards, > > Karen Rosenstiel > Seattle WA USA > > No virus found in this outgoing message. > Checked by AVG. > Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 270.4.10/1550 - Release Date: > 7/13/2008 > 5:58 PM > > > -- > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > -- > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From dwaters at usinternet.com Mon Jul 14 10:53:26 2008 From: dwaters at usinternet.com (Dan Waters) Date: Mon, 14 Jul 2008 10:53:26 -0500 Subject: [AccessD] Downgrading Vista In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I installed Win XP Pro on a PC with a blank HD and it installed fine, recognizing the HD as EIDE, rather than SATA. I found out later that you need to do a special installation procedure to get XP to recognize the HD as an SATA HD - way beyond the scope of this email. It turned out that for typical PC usage there is a negligible difference in performance between using an SATA HD as SATA or as EIDE. Dan -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Drew Wutka Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 10:36 AM To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving Subject: Re: [AccessD] Downgrading Vista There are also hardware changes that work in Vista and not XP, such as the new Serial ATA hard drives. Doing an install with Vista, and it flies right through, try to install with XP, and it won't even see the hard drive! Drew -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Charlotte Foust Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 10:29 AM To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving Subject: Re: [AccessD] Downgrading Vista Depending on the machine you have, it may not be possible. Apparently some manufacturers don't provide XP drivers for their devices now that Vista is out. I have a friend who does this kind of thing for a living and he's had HP laptops that simply could not be downgraded to XP and work. Charlotte Foust -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Karen Sent: Sunday, July 13, 2008 7:09 PM To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' Subject: [AccessD] Downgrading Vista I am fed up with Vista Ultimate on my laptop. I want to downgrade to XP Pro and I have 2 bootable CDs with it. However, my damn laptop won't let either one boot. It starts and then I get the Blue Screen of Death with the following (useless) message: STOP: 0x0000007E (0xC0000005, 0xF748E0BF, 0xF78DA208, 0xF78D9F08) Pci.sys - Address F748E0BF base at F7487000, Datestamp 3b7d855c How do I format the damn hard drive with Vista? TIA Regards, Karen Rosenstiel Seattle WA USA No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 270.4.10/1550 - Release Date: 7/13/2008 5:58 PM -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com The information contained in this transmission is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain II-VI Proprietary and/or II-VI Business Sensitive material. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender immediately and destroy the material in its entirety, whether electronic or hard copy. You are notified that any review, retransmission, copying, disclosure, dissemination, or other use of, or taking of any action in reliance upon this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient is prohibited. -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From edzedz at comcast.net Mon Jul 14 12:17:22 2008 From: edzedz at comcast.net (Edward S Zuris) Date: Mon, 14 Jul 2008 10:17:22 -0700 Subject: [AccessD] Downgrading Vista In-Reply-To: <071420081548.28881.487B753B000F3374000070D12216554886040A079B9C020A9C019D05@comcast.net> Message-ID: <023901c8e5d5$7aeff4c0$e0dea8c0@dudley1> Here is an old trick. And it isn't for the faint hearted. I repair PC's as a side line, thus I get to do this from time to time. But before you try that please share the make and model of your new computer with the rest of us. Maybe someone has the same system and can give some pointers. You'll want to visit the manufacture to see what drivers are available. And you will want a generic XP install CD. If there are no drivers and no generic XP install CD, then you have a challenge. you'll have to find XP install CD and learn what the internal components are and contact the sub-manufacture for drivers. Anyway, the basic outline is: Build a DOS boot Floppy or CD. Boot from the floppy or CD. Use FDISK to wipe out all the disk partitions. FDISK has to be rebooted after each little task. Reboot after each deleted partition. Create new a new partition using FDISK. Reboot. Format the partition. Boot the XP install disk. Install XP. Install at least the first two service packs. Then comes the tedious part of getting the drivers to work for each and every device. Since the computers I work on are usually dead to start with, I don't have to worry about saving any old data. What can I say, Its a living. The warning from Charlotte about down rev'ing is alarming. That just might start a move to look for different OS's. -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of krosenstiel at comcast.net Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 8:48 AM To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving Subject: Re: [AccessD] Downgrading Vista I'm beginning to worry that might be the case here, and I'm PISSED. After repartitioning and formatting the c: drive, my 2 different XP disks wouldn't work. However, the XP disk for my CURRENT XP machine, somewhat older than the laptop I'm redoing, does work -- but I can't use it because it's still on my desktop. I'm going to work on it again tonight after work. Maybe it's time to go to Linux.... -- Karen Rosenstiel Seattle WA USA -------------- Original message ---------------------- From: "Charlotte Foust" > Depending on the machine you have, it may not be possible. Apparently > some manufacturers don't provide XP drivers for their devices now that > Vista is out. I have a friend who does this kind of thing for a living > and he's had HP laptops that simply could not be downgraded to XP and > work. > > Charlotte Foust > > -----Original Message----- > From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Karen > Sent: Sunday, July 13, 2008 7:09 PM > To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' > Subject: [AccessD] Downgrading Vista > > > I am fed up with Vista Ultimate on my laptop. I want to downgrade to XP > Pro and I have 2 bootable CDs with it. However, my damn laptop won't let > either one boot. It starts and then I get the Blue Screen of Death with > the following (useless) message: > > STOP: 0x0000007E > (0xC0000005, 0xF748E0BF, 0xF78DA208, 0xF78D9F08) > > Pci.sys - Address F748E0BF base at F7487000, Datestamp 3b7d855c > > How do I format the damn hard drive with Vista? > > TIA > > Regards, > > Karen Rosenstiel > Seattle WA USA > > No virus found in this outgoing message. > Checked by AVG. > Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 270.4.10/1550 - Release Date: > 7/13/2008 > 5:58 PM > > > -- > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > -- > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From john at winhaven.net Mon Jul 14 11:20:12 2008 From: john at winhaven.net (John Bartow) Date: Mon, 14 Jul 2008 11:20:12 -0500 Subject: [AccessD] Downgrading Vista In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <200807141620.m6EGK453008835@databaseadvisors.com> If you have either SCSI or SATA drives you can install XP but while doing so you must watch for the (initial blue) screen that asks you to press F6 for additional drivers (or something to that effect). You then need to have those drivers ready on a floppy disk. HTH John B. From cfoust at infostatsystems.com Mon Jul 14 11:29:17 2008 From: cfoust at infostatsystems.com (Charlotte Foust) Date: Mon, 14 Jul 2008 09:29:17 -0700 Subject: [AccessD] Downgrading Vista In-Reply-To: <200807141620.m6EGK453008835@databaseadvisors.com> References: <200807141620.m6EGK453008835@databaseadvisors.com> Message-ID: I hope you don't really mean floppy disk, John. My laptop doesn't have floppy drives and neither do any of the others I've seen. Charlotte Foust -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of John Bartow Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 9:20 AM To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' Subject: Re: [AccessD] Downgrading Vista If you have either SCSI or SATA drives you can install XP but while doing so you must watch for the (initial blue) screen that asks you to press F6 for additional drivers (or something to that effect). You then need to have those drivers ready on a floppy disk. HTH John B. -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From edzedz at comcast.net Mon Jul 14 13:13:48 2008 From: edzedz at comcast.net (Edward S Zuris) Date: Mon, 14 Jul 2008 11:13:48 -0700 Subject: [AccessD] Downgrading Vista In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <023d01c8e5dd$5d2666b0$e0dea8c0@dudley1> You can buy a floppy hooked to a USB. I have used those in the past on Laptops with no floppy drive. -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Charlotte Foust Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 9:29 AM To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving Subject: Re: [AccessD] Downgrading Vista I hope you don't really mean floppy disk, John. My laptop doesn't have floppy drives and neither do any of the others I've seen. Charlotte Foust -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of John Bartow Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 9:20 AM To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' Subject: Re: [AccessD] Downgrading Vista If you have either SCSI or SATA drives you can install XP but while doing so you must watch for the (initial blue) screen that asks you to press F6 for additional drivers (or something to that effect). You then need to have those drivers ready on a floppy disk. HTH John B. -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From krosenstiel at comcast.net Mon Jul 14 12:15:02 2008 From: krosenstiel at comcast.net (krosenstiel at comcast.net) Date: Mon, 14 Jul 2008 17:15:02 +0000 Subject: [AccessD] Downgrading Vista Message-ID: <071420081715.19457.487B8996000937CD00004C012216566276040A079B9C020A9C019D05@comcast.net> I do have a USB floppy. Got it when I got the laptop just for such current episodes. -- Karen Rosenstiel Seattle WA USA -------------- Original message ---------------------- From: "Edward S Zuris" > > You can buy a floppy hooked to a USB. > > I have used those in the past on Laptops > with no floppy drive. > > -----Original Message----- > From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Charlotte > Foust > Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 9:29 AM > To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving > Subject: Re: [AccessD] Downgrading Vista > > > I hope you don't really mean floppy disk, John. My laptop doesn't have > floppy drives and neither do any of the others I've seen. > > Charlotte Foust > > -----Original Message----- > From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of John Bartow > Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 9:20 AM > To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' > Subject: Re: [AccessD] Downgrading Vista > > If you have either SCSI or SATA drives you can install XP but while > doing so you must watch for the (initial blue) screen that asks you to > press F6 for additional drivers (or something to that effect). You then > need to have those drivers ready on a floppy disk. > > HTH > John B. > > -- > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > -- > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From edzedz at comcast.net Mon Jul 14 13:23:40 2008 From: edzedz at comcast.net (Edward S Zuris) Date: Mon, 14 Jul 2008 11:23:40 -0700 Subject: [AccessD] Downgrading Vista In-Reply-To: <071420081715.19457.487B8996000937CD00004C012216566276040A079B9C020A9C019D05@comcast.net> Message-ID: <024b01c8e5de$be4bfad0$e0dea8c0@dudley1> That is a good idea. If you have a boot floppy then you can test to see if the usb driver is smart enough to know what to do. If not then you'll have to make one. -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of krosenstiel at comcast.net Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 10:15 AM To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving Subject: Re: [AccessD] Downgrading Vista I do have a USB floppy. Got it when I got the laptop just for such current episodes. -- Karen Rosenstiel Seattle WA USA -------------- Original message ---------------------- From: "Edward S Zuris" > > You can buy a floppy hooked to a USB. > > I have used those in the past on Laptops > with no floppy drive. > > -----Original Message----- > From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Charlotte > Foust > Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 9:29 AM > To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving > Subject: Re: [AccessD] Downgrading Vista > > > I hope you don't really mean floppy disk, John. My laptop doesn't have > floppy drives and neither do any of the others I've seen. > > Charlotte Foust > > -----Original Message----- > From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of John Bartow > Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 9:20 AM > To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' > Subject: Re: [AccessD] Downgrading Vista > > If you have either SCSI or SATA drives you can install XP but while > doing so you must watch for the (initial blue) screen that asks you to > press F6 for additional drivers (or something to that effect). You then > need to have those drivers ready on a floppy disk. > > HTH > John B. > > -- > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > -- > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From djkr at msn.com Mon Jul 14 13:14:04 2008 From: djkr at msn.com (DJK(John) Robinson) Date: Mon, 14 Jul 2008 19:14:04 +0100 Subject: [AccessD] Downgrading Vista In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Hi Drew What new SATA drives??! Or are these HP/Dell/.. proprietary ones? Mine are about as new as they come (Barracuda 7200.11 1TBs), and work fine with both Vista and XP. John -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Drew Wutka Sent: 14 July 2008 16:36 To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving Subject: Re: [AccessD] Downgrading Vista There are also hardware changes that work in Vista and not XP, such as the new Serial ATA hard drives. Doing an install with Vista, and it flies right through, try to install with XP, and it won't even see the hard drive! Drew -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Charlotte Foust Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 10:29 AM To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving Subject: Re: [AccessD] Downgrading Vista Depending on the machine you have, it may not be possible. Apparently some manufacturers don't provide XP drivers for their devices now that Vista is out. I have a friend who does this kind of thing for a living and he's had HP laptops that simply could not be downgraded to XP and work. Charlotte Foust -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Karen Sent: Sunday, July 13, 2008 7:09 PM To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' Subject: [AccessD] Downgrading Vista I am fed up with Vista Ultimate on my laptop. I want to downgrade to XP Pro and I have 2 bootable CDs with it. However, my damn laptop won't let either one boot. It starts and then I get the Blue Screen of Death with the following (useless) message: STOP: 0x0000007E (0xC0000005, 0xF748E0BF, 0xF78DA208, 0xF78D9F08) Pci.sys - Address F748E0BF base at F7487000, Datestamp 3b7d855c How do I format the damn hard drive with Vista? TIA Regards, Karen Rosenstiel Seattle WA USA No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 270.4.10/1550 - Release Date: 7/13/2008 5:58 PM -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com The information contained in this transmission is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain II-VI Proprietary and/or II-VI Business Sensitive material. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender immediately and destroy the material in its entirety, whether electronic or hard copy. You are notified that any review, retransmission, copying, disclosure, dissemination, or other use of, or taking of any action in reliance upon this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient is prohibited. -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From john at winhaven.net Mon Jul 14 13:24:43 2008 From: john at winhaven.net (John Bartow) Date: Mon, 14 Jul 2008 13:24:43 -0500 Subject: [AccessD] Downgrading Vista In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <200807141824.m6EIOYjx003946@databaseadvisors.com> LOL! That does sound pretty bad, doesn't it? I actually don't know. I've only ever done this with a floppy disk since it specifically asks for one but it may be able to be done with a USB memory stick. Otherwise, Floppy drives can either be added internally quite easily of there are USB floppy drives (a bit expensive for a dead technology though). If you press F6 I guess that will tell the story. The gal that builds computers for me and I would always laugh at MS's inability to do this from their install CDs, since every drive maker can. John B. From edzedz at comcast.net Mon Jul 14 14:43:23 2008 From: edzedz at comcast.net (Edward S Zuris) Date: Mon, 14 Jul 2008 12:43:23 -0700 Subject: [AccessD] Access bit map images problem Message-ID: <024e01c8e5e9$e11883c0$e0dea8c0@dudley1> Any ideas on how to tackle the problem of taking bit map images out of OLE Object field into the picture property of command button ? Thanks. Ed Zuris. . . From pedro at plex.nl Mon Jul 14 14:41:06 2008 From: pedro at plex.nl (Pedro Janssen) Date: Mon, 14 Jul 2008 21:41:06 +0200 Subject: [AccessD] no automatic round up/off References: <57E6E6CA42105A48B977303A2CDC2720076BF12D29@WPEXCH22.retail.ad.cmltd.net.au> <02f301c8e549$8ff01b70$2f8601c7@SusanOne> Message-ID: <001801c8e5e9$8fe09560$400aa8c0@qmotionfaa3ad9> Susan and Daryl, i will keep this in mind. Thanks Pedro ----- Original Message ----- From: "Susan Harkins" To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving" Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 2:35 AM Subject: Re: [AccessD] no automatic round up/off >I had this happen with a form that had several subforms. It worked fine > until we put it on the network. Turned out it was Novell flag, but of > course, I was stuck with the problem and ended up recreating the form. > That > was a long time ago though. > > Susan H. > > >> >> "Can a form also be corrupt?" >> >> Pedro, >> >> Even in my limited experience I have had several forms go corrupt. It is >> hard to diagnose at first, but often just replacing the form with a >> backup >> (or new version) will resolve the issue - it is certainly worth a try and >> can save you (well me at least) hours of annoyance. > > -- > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > From DWUTKA at Marlow.com Mon Jul 14 16:31:32 2008 From: DWUTKA at Marlow.com (Drew Wutka) Date: Mon, 14 Jul 2008 16:31:32 -0500 Subject: [AccessD] Downgrading Vista In-Reply-To: <002901c8e5dd$66044c70$4201a8c0@dabsight> Message-ID: Too lazy to reboot my laptop and go into the BIOS...it's a feature of the SATA drives, and I had to turn them off for my Windows XP CD to recognize the hard drives on my laptop. Drew -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of DJK(John) Robinson Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 1:14 PM To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' Subject: Re: [AccessD] Downgrading Vista Hi Drew What new SATA drives??! Or are these HP/Dell/.. proprietary ones? Mine are about as new as they come (Barracuda 7200.11 1TBs), and work fine with both Vista and XP. John -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Drew Wutka Sent: 14 July 2008 16:36 To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving Subject: Re: [AccessD] Downgrading Vista There are also hardware changes that work in Vista and not XP, such as the new Serial ATA hard drives. Doing an install with Vista, and it flies right through, try to install with XP, and it won't even see the hard drive! Drew -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Charlotte Foust Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 10:29 AM To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving Subject: Re: [AccessD] Downgrading Vista Depending on the machine you have, it may not be possible. Apparently some manufacturers don't provide XP drivers for their devices now that Vista is out. I have a friend who does this kind of thing for a living and he's had HP laptops that simply could not be downgraded to XP and work. Charlotte Foust -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Karen Sent: Sunday, July 13, 2008 7:09 PM To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' Subject: [AccessD] Downgrading Vista I am fed up with Vista Ultimate on my laptop. I want to downgrade to XP Pro and I have 2 bootable CDs with it. However, my damn laptop won't let either one boot. It starts and then I get the Blue Screen of Death with the following (useless) message: STOP: 0x0000007E (0xC0000005, 0xF748E0BF, 0xF78DA208, 0xF78D9F08) Pci.sys - Address F748E0BF base at F7487000, Datestamp 3b7d855c How do I format the damn hard drive with Vista? TIA Regards, Karen Rosenstiel Seattle WA USA No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 270.4.10/1550 - Release Date: 7/13/2008 5:58 PM -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com The information contained in this transmission is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain II-VI Proprietary and/or II-VI Business Sensitive material. 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If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender immediately and destroy the material in its entirety, whether electronic or hard copy. You are notified that any review, retransmission, copying, disclosure, dissemination, or other use of, or taking of any action in reliance upon this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient is prohibited. From Gustav at cactus.dk Mon Jul 14 17:00:38 2008 From: Gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock) Date: Tue, 15 Jul 2008 00:00:38 +0200 Subject: [AccessD] Access bit map images problem Message-ID: Hi Ed Stephen Lebans did some research on this first part: http://www.lebans.com/oletodisk.htm Could give you some ideas. /gustav >>> edzedz at comcast.net 14-07-2008 21:43 >>> Any ideas on how to tackle the problem of taking bit map images out of OLE Object field into the picture property of command button ? Thanks. Ed Zuris. . . From jedi at charm.net Mon Jul 14 17:05:38 2008 From: jedi at charm.net (Michael Bahr) Date: Mon, 14 Jul 2008 18:05:38 -0400 Subject: [AccessD] Downgrading Vista In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <200807141805380250.0A7A7EEE@mail.cablespeed.com> Drew, you are talking about AHCI (Advanced Host Controller Interface) which allows advanced features of SATA such as hot plug and Native Command Queuing (NCQ). You still use the basic features of SATA just not all of it. This feature is kinda of not supported on XP but definitely supported in VISTA. I mean kinda because it is possible to enable AHCI on XP, I did it, and have no problems. I can even turn on/off my external HD through eSATA. Mike... *********** REPLY SEPARATOR *********** On 7/14/2008 at 4:31 PM Drew Wutka wrote: >Too lazy to reboot my laptop and go into the BIOS...it's a feature of >the SATA drives, and I had to turn them off for my Windows XP CD to >recognize the hard drives on my laptop. > >Drew > >-----Original Message----- >From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com >[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of DJK(John) >Robinson >Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 1:14 PM >To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' >Subject: Re: [AccessD] Downgrading Vista > >Hi Drew > >What new SATA drives??! Or are these HP/Dell/.. proprietary ones? > >Mine are about as new as they come (Barracuda 7200.11 1TBs), and work >fine >with both Vista and XP. > >John > > >-----Original Message----- >From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com >[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Drew Wutka >Sent: 14 July 2008 16:36 >To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving >Subject: Re: [AccessD] Downgrading Vista > > >There are also hardware changes that work in Vista and not XP, such as >the >new Serial ATA hard drives. Doing an install with Vista, and it flies >right >through, try to install with XP, and it won't even see the hard drive! > >Drew > >-----Original Message----- >From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com >[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Charlotte >Foust >Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 10:29 AM >To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving >Subject: Re: [AccessD] Downgrading Vista > >Depending on the machine you have, it may not be possible. Apparently >some >manufacturers don't provide XP drivers for their devices now that Vista >is >out. I have a friend who does this kind of thing for a living and he's >had >HP laptops that simply could not be downgraded to XP and work. > >Charlotte Foust > >-----Original Message----- >From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com >[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Karen >Sent: Sunday, July 13, 2008 7:09 PM >To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' >Subject: [AccessD] Downgrading Vista > > >I am fed up with Vista Ultimate on my laptop. I want to downgrade to XP >Pro >and I have 2 bootable CDs with it. However, my damn laptop won't let >either >one boot. It starts and then I get the Blue Screen of Death with the >following (useless) message: > >STOP: 0x0000007E >(0xC0000005, 0xF748E0BF, 0xF78DA208, 0xF78D9F08) > >Pci.sys - Address F748E0BF base at F7487000, Datestamp 3b7d855c > >How do I format the damn hard drive with Vista? > >TIA > >Regards, > >Karen Rosenstiel >Seattle WA USA > >No virus found in this outgoing message. >Checked by AVG. >Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 270.4.10/1550 - Release Date: >7/13/2008 >5:58 PM > > >-- >AccessD mailing list >AccessD at databaseadvisors.com >http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd >Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > >-- >AccessD mailing list >AccessD at databaseadvisors.com >http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd >Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com >The information contained in this transmission is intended only for the >person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain II-VI >Proprietary >and/or II-VI Business Sensitive material. If you are not the intended >recipient, please contact the sender immediately and destroy the >material in >its entirety, whether electronic or hard copy. You are notified that any >review, retransmission, copying, disclosure, dissemination, or other use >of, >or taking of any action in reliance upon this information by persons or >entities other than the intended recipient is prohibited. > > >-- >AccessD mailing list >AccessD at databaseadvisors.com >http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd >Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > >-- >AccessD mailing list >AccessD at databaseadvisors.com >http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd >Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com >The information contained in this transmission is intended only for the >person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain II-VI >Proprietary and/or II-VI Business Sensitive material. If you are not the >intended recipient, please contact the sender immediately and destroy the >material in its entirety, whether electronic or hard copy. You are >notified that any review, retransmission, copying, disclosure, >dissemination, or other use of, or taking of any action in reliance upon >this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient >is prohibited. > > >-- >AccessD mailing list >AccessD at databaseadvisors.com >http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd >Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From DWUTKA at Marlow.com Mon Jul 14 17:15:13 2008 From: DWUTKA at Marlow.com (Drew Wutka) Date: Mon, 14 Jul 2008 17:15:13 -0500 Subject: [AccessD] Downgrading Vista In-Reply-To: <200807141805380250.0A7A7EEE@mail.cablespeed.com> Message-ID: Yep, that's it! My new laptop (about 3 months old now, and it has 2 hard drives) has AHCI. Installing Vista....wham bam, done. Put in a Windows XP CD, it starts loading it's drivers, and gets to searching for previous installations, and then doesn't show any hard drives available. Now, I could have hunted down drivers for it, but I didn't, just turned it off in the bios, and XP installed like a champ. Personally, I see no real advantage to Using Vista. When I got my new laptop, I was this '' close to just keeping vista on there (after a fresh install, I ALWAYS reinstall the OS on a new machine, dropping all that garbage the different vendors throw on there!), until I discovered that I couldn't install Office 97 (more importantly Access 97). I like using Virtual PC, but I use Access 97 often enough that I didn't want to HAVE to use it through VPC. Drew -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Michael Bahr Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 5:06 PM To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving Subject: Re: [AccessD] Downgrading Vista Drew, you are talking about AHCI (Advanced Host Controller Interface) which allows advanced features of SATA such as hot plug and Native Command Queuing (NCQ). You still use the basic features of SATA just not all of it. This feature is kinda of not supported on XP but definitely supported in VISTA. I mean kinda because it is possible to enable AHCI on XP, I did it, and have no problems. I can even turn on/off my external HD through eSATA. Mike... *********** REPLY SEPARATOR *********** On 7/14/2008 at 4:31 PM Drew Wutka wrote: >Too lazy to reboot my laptop and go into the BIOS...it's a feature of >the SATA drives, and I had to turn them off for my Windows XP CD to >recognize the hard drives on my laptop. > >Drew > The information contained in this transmission is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain II-VI Proprietary and/or II-VI Business Sensitive material. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender immediately and destroy the material in its entirety, whether electronic or hard copy. You are notified that any review, retransmission, copying, disclosure, dissemination, or other use of, or taking of any action in reliance upon this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient is prohibited. From kp at sdsonline.net Mon Jul 14 18:11:06 2008 From: kp at sdsonline.net (Kath Pelletti) Date: Tue, 15 Jul 2008 09:11:06 +1000 Subject: [AccessD] get focus back to subform - URGENT References: <200807100411.m6A4Bjtx031768@databaseadvisors.com><005801c8e543$1f70e100$6401a8c0@DELLAPTOP> Message-ID: <002b01c8e606$e6316c10$6401a8c0@DELLAPTOP> Bit of a long story. I kept getting error 7878 - "data has changed". That was because I had a field (dateUpdated) which was updated by code on both the subform and the main form. When I was debugging i found an article suggesting that Me.parent.requery was the best way around that error. So I added it to the control's after update event and then hit the problem of not being able to get the focus back. After a bit of a re-design I ended up keeping the Me.Parent.Requery - but I moved it to the subform's after update event instead of the control's after update event. It works. Kath ----- Original Message ----- From: "Charlotte Foust" To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving" Sent: Tuesday, July 15, 2008 1:26 AM Subject: Re: [AccessD] get focus back to subform - URGENT > Kath, > > Me.Parent.Requery is the problem, and I don't understand why you want to > use it. When you requery the parent, you requery everything, so the > "next" control is meaningless anyhow. > > Charlotte Foust > > -----Original Message----- > From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Kath Pelletti > Sent: Sunday, July 13, 2008 4:50 PM > To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving > Subject: Re: [AccessD] get focus back to subform - URGENT > > Thanks Darren > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Darren D" > To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'" > > Sent: Thursday, July 10, 2008 2:11 PM > Subject: Re: [AccessD] get focus back to subform - URGENT > > >> Hi Kath >> >> Be explicit then - Something like >> >> ...Some Code >> me.parent.requery >> 'Then >> Forms!frmSomeMainForm.form.somesubform.somesubformcontrol.setfocus >> ...some code >> >> Re your earlier post about moving between controls >> I assume you want the user to just tab away happily and move between > the >> subform and the main form without really knowing or seeing any > difference >> >> I do this explicitly too - I determine the 'last' control on the main > form >> then on the 'lostfocus' of that field I have something like >> Forms!frmSomeMainForm.form.somesubform.somesubformcontrol.setfocus >> And the reverse on the last control on the sub form >> >> There are probably better ways to do this but this is simple and it > works >> for end user navigation well enough >> >> See ya >> >> DD >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com >> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Kath > Pelletti >> Sent: Friday, 11 July 2008 1:52 PM >> To: Access D Normal List >> Subject: [AccessD] get focus back to subform - URGENT >> >> Must be a bad day.... >> >>>From a control on a subform, when I say >> me.parent.requery, >> >> I then cannot get the focus back to my control on the subform using: >> >> me.controlname.setfocus. >> >> Any tips? This should be easy stuff but driving me mad today......... >> tia >> >> Kath >> ______________________________________ >> Kath Pelletti >> -- >> AccessD mailing list >> AccessD at databaseadvisors.com >> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd >> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com >> >> -- >> AccessD mailing list >> AccessD at databaseadvisors.com >> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd >> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com >> > > > -- > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > -- > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > From fuller.artful at gmail.com Mon Jul 14 18:24:12 2008 From: fuller.artful at gmail.com (Arthur Fuller) Date: Mon, 14 Jul 2008 20:24:12 -0300 Subject: [AccessD] Just in case Message-ID: <29f585dd0807141624g50da1837r62527cdf101664b9@mail.gmail.com> I'm new to this Bertha stuff and I'm living in a concrete home so probably nothing will occur, but just on the off-chance that I'm swept away into the ocean or my house is crushed by some giant tree, I just want to tell you all that it's been fun getting to know you all. I'm not afraid, I love violent weather, but this is a tad more violent than I'm used to. I'll hang on to my bedframe and hope for the best LOL. A. From kp at sdsonline.net Mon Jul 14 18:29:12 2008 From: kp at sdsonline.net (Kath Pelletti) Date: Tue, 15 Jul 2008 09:29:12 +1000 Subject: [AccessD] Just in case References: <29f585dd0807141624g50da1837r62527cdf101664b9@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <000a01c8e609$6c988c50$6401a8c0@DELLAPTOP> Best of luck Arthur. I'm sure you'll be Ok and it will be a great story?? Hhhhmmm.... thank God for concrete! Kath ----- Original Message ----- From: "Arthur Fuller" To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving" Sent: Tuesday, July 15, 2008 9:24 AM Subject: [AccessD] Just in case > I'm new to this Bertha stuff and I'm living in a concrete home so probably > nothing will occur, but just on the off-chance that I'm swept away into > the > ocean or my house is crushed by some giant tree, I just want to tell you > all > that it's been fun getting to know you all. I'm not afraid, I love violent > weather, but this is a tad more violent than I'm used to. I'll hang on to > my > bedframe and hope for the best LOL. > > A. > -- > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > From ssharkins at gmail.com Mon Jul 14 18:29:27 2008 From: ssharkins at gmail.com (Susan Harkins) Date: Mon, 14 Jul 2008 19:29:27 -0400 Subject: [AccessD] Just in case References: <29f585dd0807141624g50da1837r62527cdf101664b9@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <04fd01c8e609$76faef30$2f8601c7@SusanOne> Arthur, don't they have secure shelters? Susan H. > I'm new to this Bertha stuff and I'm living in a concrete home so probably > nothing will occur, but just on the off-chance that I'm swept away into > the > ocean or my house is crushed by some giant tree, I just want to tell you > all > that it's been fun getting to know you all. I'm not afraid, I love violent > weather, but this is a tad more violent than I'm used to. I'll hang on to > my > bedframe and hope for the best LOL. > > A. > -- > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From kp at sdsonline.net Mon Jul 14 18:54:55 2008 From: kp at sdsonline.net (Kath Pelletti) Date: Tue, 15 Jul 2008 09:54:55 +1000 Subject: [AccessD] Just in case References: <29f585dd0807141624g50da1837r62527cdf101664b9@mail.gmail.com> <04fd01c8e609$76faef30$2f8601c7@SusanOne> Message-ID: <001c01c8e60d$04316b10$6401a8c0@DELLAPTOP> Yes - that sounds safer than at home? ----- Original Message ----- From: "Susan Harkins" To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving" Sent: Tuesday, July 15, 2008 9:29 AM Subject: Re: [AccessD] Just in case > Arthur, don't they have secure shelters? > > Susan H. > > >> I'm new to this Bertha stuff and I'm living in a concrete home so >> probably >> nothing will occur, but just on the off-chance that I'm swept away into >> the >> ocean or my house is crushed by some giant tree, I just want to tell you >> all >> that it's been fun getting to know you all. I'm not afraid, I love >> violent >> weather, but this is a tad more violent than I'm used to. I'll hang on to >> my >> bedframe and hope for the best LOL. >> >> A. >> -- >> AccessD mailing list >> AccessD at databaseadvisors.com >> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd >> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > -- > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > From fuller.artful at gmail.com Mon Jul 14 19:11:11 2008 From: fuller.artful at gmail.com (Arthur Fuller) Date: Mon, 14 Jul 2008 21:11:11 -0300 Subject: [AccessD] Just in case In-Reply-To: <04fd01c8e609$76faef30$2f8601c7@SusanOne> References: <29f585dd0807141624g50da1837r62527cdf101664b9@mail.gmail.com> <04fd01c8e609$76faef30$2f8601c7@SusanOne> Message-ID: <29f585dd0807141711l433902aleb35e6a1d541f562@mail.gmail.com> How much more secure can you get than a concrete house? I'm cool and it seems to have dramatically calmed down. Which could be the calm before the storm, as it were. Today was incredible by Toronto standards, but apparently just a slap on the wrist by Bermudian standards. It was amazing, to this Ontario emigre. Wow. A. From ssharkins at gmail.com Mon Jul 14 19:57:09 2008 From: ssharkins at gmail.com (Susan Harkins) Date: Mon, 14 Jul 2008 20:57:09 -0400 Subject: [AccessD] Just in case References: <29f585dd0807141624g50da1837r62527cdf101664b9@mail.gmail.com><04fd01c8e609$76faef30$2f8601c7@SusanOne> <29f585dd0807141711l433902aleb35e6a1d541f562@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <054001c8e615$bdd231f0$2f8601c7@SusanOne> > How much more secure can you get than a concrete house? This concrete house has a roof and windows? Susan H. From fuller.artful at gmail.com Mon Jul 14 20:31:09 2008 From: fuller.artful at gmail.com (Arthur Fuller) Date: Mon, 14 Jul 2008 22:31:09 -0300 Subject: [AccessD] Just in case In-Reply-To: <054001c8e615$bdd231f0$2f8601c7@SusanOne> References: <29f585dd0807141624g50da1837r62527cdf101664b9@mail.gmail.com> <04fd01c8e609$76faef30$2f8601c7@SusanOne> <29f585dd0807141711l433902aleb35e6a1d541f562@mail.gmail.com> <054001c8e615$bdd231f0$2f8601c7@SusanOne> Message-ID: <29f585dd0807141831j3ff86a37q46ff9dadf2e5ebe2@mail.gmail.com> YawYawYaw, concrete roof and solid windows and everything. Amazing winds today, and I'm told this is just a little storm. 60mph, at one point I had to grab a building to remain stable, wow. And now I'm told that this was just a little-girl storm. A genuine hurricane delivers 200 mph, I'm told. Holy cow. 50 mph was awesome. I can't even imagine 200 mph. Wow. 60 yo but never too old to learn something new, A. On Mon, Jul 14, 2008 at 9:57 PM, Susan Harkins wrote: > > > > How much more secure can you get than a concrete house? > > This concrete house has a roof and windows? > > Susan H. > -- > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > From Darryl.Collins at coles.com.au Mon Jul 14 20:38:42 2008 From: Darryl.Collins at coles.com.au (Darryl Collins) Date: Tue, 15 Jul 2008 11:38:42 +1000 Subject: [AccessD] Just in case In-Reply-To: <29f585dd0807141831j3ff86a37q46ff9dadf2e5ebe2@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <57E6E6CA42105A48B977303A2CDC2720076BF12D3F@WPEXCH22.retail.ad.cmltd.net.au> wow 200 mph would be fiercesome indeed. A 60 mph wind can push you around and bring down trees/powerlines etc without too much bother. -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Arthur Fuller Sent: Tuesday, 15 July 2008 11:31 AM To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving Subject: Re: [AccessD] Just in case YawYawYaw, concrete roof and solid windows and everything. Amazing winds today, and I'm told this is just a little storm. 60mph, at one point I had to grab a building to remain stable, wow. And now I'm told that this was just a little-girl storm. A genuine hurricane delivers 200 mph, I'm told. Holy cow. 50 mph was awesome. I can't even imagine 200 mph. Wow. 60 yo but never too old to learn something new, A. On Mon, Jul 14, 2008 at 9:57 PM, Susan Harkins wrote: > > > > How much more secure can you get than a concrete house? > > This concrete house has a roof and windows? > > Susan H. > -- > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com This email and any attachments may contain privileged and confidential information and are intended for the named addressee only. If you have received this e-mail in error, please notify the sender and delete this e-mail immediately. Any confidentiality, privilege or copyright is not waived or lost because this e-mail has been sent to you in error. It is your responsibility to check this e-mail and any attachments for viruses. No warranty is made that this material is free from computer virus or any other defect or error. Any loss/damage incurred by using this material is not the sender's responsibility. The sender's entire liability will be limited to resupplying the material. From fuller.artful at gmail.com Mon Jul 14 21:02:47 2008 From: fuller.artful at gmail.com (Arthur Fuller) Date: Mon, 14 Jul 2008 23:02:47 -0300 Subject: [AccessD] Just in case In-Reply-To: <57E6E6CA42105A48B977303A2CDC2720076BF12D3F@WPEXCH22.retail.ad.cmltd.net.au> References: <29f585dd0807141831j3ff86a37q46ff9dadf2e5ebe2@mail.gmail.com> <57E6E6CA42105A48B977303A2CDC2720076BF12D3F@WPEXCH22.retail.ad.cmltd.net.au> Message-ID: <29f585dd0807141902i36100f0fn42941166bc9cadc6@mail.gmail.com> Yeah I saw numerous tree particles earlier today but at the moment things have calmed down. Could be the classic "calm before the storm". Don't know. This is all new to me. But it certainly is exciting. A. On Mon, Jul 14, 2008 at 10:38 PM, Darryl Collins < Darryl.Collins at coles.com.au> wrote: > > wow 200 mph would be fiercesome indeed. A 60 mph wind can push you around > and bring down trees/powerlines etc without too much bother. > From Darryl.Collins at coles.com.au Mon Jul 14 21:05:03 2008 From: Darryl.Collins at coles.com.au (Darryl Collins) Date: Tue, 15 Jul 2008 12:05:03 +1000 Subject: [AccessD] Just in case In-Reply-To: <29f585dd0807141902i36100f0fn42941166bc9cadc6@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <57E6E6CA42105A48B977303A2CDC2720076BF12D40@WPEXCH22.retail.ad.cmltd.net.au> Just make sure you are not in "the eye of the storm" where it is very nice and calm for a while before the other wall of wind hits you. -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Arthur Fuller Sent: Tuesday, 15 July 2008 12:03 PM To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving Subject: Re: [AccessD] Just in case Yeah I saw numerous tree particles earlier today but at the moment things have calmed down. Could be the classic "calm before the storm". Don't know. This is all new to me. But it certainly is exciting. A. On Mon, Jul 14, 2008 at 10:38 PM, Darryl Collins < Darryl.Collins at coles.com.au> wrote: > > wow 200 mph would be fiercesome indeed. A 60 mph wind can push you around > and bring down trees/powerlines etc without too much bother. > -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com This email and any attachments may contain privileged and confidential information and are intended for the named addressee only. If you have received this e-mail in error, please notify the sender and delete this e-mail immediately. Any confidentiality, privilege or copyright is not waived or lost because this e-mail has been sent to you in error. It is your responsibility to check this e-mail and any attachments for viruses. No warranty is made that this material is free from computer virus or any other defect or error. Any loss/damage incurred by using this material is not the sender's responsibility. The sender's entire liability will be limited to resupplying the material. From krosenstiel at comcast.net Mon Jul 14 21:13:39 2008 From: krosenstiel at comcast.net (Karen Rosenstiel) Date: Mon, 14 Jul 2008 19:13:39 -0700 Subject: [AccessD] Downgrading Vista In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <200807150213.m6F2DTkF032106@databaseadvisors.com> OK, here's the latest. I called Dell tech support and explained the situation. I told him that I had 2 old XP Pro cd's. He immediately got all upset and told me I couldn't use them. I explained that the machines they came on were long gone. Then he told me that there was something on the cd that would prevent it from loading if it had already been used and registered on another machine. I told him point blank I didn't believe him. Especially since I've used these cd's on several machines for years as I upgraded. Just had to call MS and they gave me the code. The only good thing that came out of the conversation is that he did tell me that my machine would take XP -- I just had to buy another cd. This is really and truly annoying me. Regards, Karen Rosenstiel Seattle WA USA -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Dan Waters Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 8:53 AM To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' Subject: Re: [AccessD] Downgrading Vista I installed Win XP Pro on a PC with a blank HD and it installed fine, recognizing the HD as EIDE, rather than SATA. I found out later that you need to do a special installation procedure to get XP to recognize the HD as an SATA HD - way beyond the scope of this email. It turned out that for typical PC usage there is a negligible difference in performance between using an SATA HD as SATA or as EIDE. Dan -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Drew Wutka Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 10:36 AM To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving Subject: Re: [AccessD] Downgrading Vista There are also hardware changes that work in Vista and not XP, such as the new Serial ATA hard drives. Doing an install with Vista, and it flies right through, try to install with XP, and it won't even see the hard drive! Drew -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Charlotte Foust Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 10:29 AM To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving Subject: Re: [AccessD] Downgrading Vista Depending on the machine you have, it may not be possible. Apparently some manufacturers don't provide XP drivers for their devices now that Vista is out. I have a friend who does this kind of thing for a living and he's had HP laptops that simply could not be downgraded to XP and work. Charlotte Foust -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Karen Sent: Sunday, July 13, 2008 7:09 PM To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' Subject: [AccessD] Downgrading Vista I am fed up with Vista Ultimate on my laptop. I want to downgrade to XP Pro and I have 2 bootable CDs with it. However, my damn laptop won't let either one boot. It starts and then I get the Blue Screen of Death with the following (useless) message: STOP: 0x0000007E (0xC0000005, 0xF748E0BF, 0xF78DA208, 0xF78D9F08) Pci.sys - Address F748E0BF base at F7487000, Datestamp 3b7d855c How do I format the damn hard drive with Vista? TIA Regards, Karen Rosenstiel Seattle WA USA No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 270.4.10/1550 - Release Date: 7/13/2008 5:58 PM -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com The information contained in this transmission is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain II-VI Proprietary and/or II-VI Business Sensitive material. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender immediately and destroy the material in its entirety, whether electronic or hard copy. You are notified that any review, retransmission, copying, disclosure, dissemination, or other use of, or taking of any action in reliance upon this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient is prohibited. -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 270.4.10/1552 - Release Date: 7/14/2008 6:28 PM No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 270.4.10/1552 - Release Date: 7/14/2008 6:28 PM From Darryl.Collins at coles.com.au Mon Jul 14 22:05:46 2008 From: Darryl.Collins at coles.com.au (Darryl Collins) Date: Tue, 15 Jul 2008 13:05:46 +1000 Subject: [AccessD] Downgrading Vista In-Reply-To: <200807150213.m6F2DTkF032106@databaseadvisors.com> Message-ID: <57E6E6CA42105A48B977303A2CDC2720076BF12D41@WPEXCH22.retail.ad.cmltd.net.au> I suspect that is an absolute load of crap. I have loaded multiple different PC's over the years with the Same XP disk and not had any hassles. You can use old lic keys - you have paid for it and if the machine the OS is installed on dies, you can move that OS and key to another unit - if you have any bother a call to Microsoft usually sorts it out and they ensure that your key is valid, although I rarely have any bother, I have only ever had to call them once. I think you said you have wiped the disk clean, but if not, I would do a full disk wipe and reformat. Then boot off the XP disk from the BOIS (press F12 on a dell i think during boot). Windows should install from the CD directly. I would suggest having the beast wired into your internet connection so it can download stuff during the install. -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Karen Rosenstiel Sent: Tuesday, 15 July 2008 12:14 PM To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' Subject: Re: [AccessD] Downgrading Vista OK, here's the latest. I called Dell tech support and explained the situation. I told him that I had 2 old XP Pro cd's. He immediately got all upset and told me I couldn't use them. I explained that the machines they came on were long gone. Then he told me that there was something on the cd that would prevent it from loading if it had already been used and registered on another machine. I told him point blank I didn't believe him. Especially since I've used these cd's on several machines for years as I upgraded. Just had to call MS and they gave me the code. The only good thing that came out of the conversation is that he did tell me that my machine would take XP -- I just had to buy another cd. This is really and truly annoying me. Regards, Karen Rosenstiel Seattle WA USA -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Dan Waters Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 8:53 AM To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' Subject: Re: [AccessD] Downgrading Vista I installed Win XP Pro on a PC with a blank HD and it installed fine, recognizing the HD as EIDE, rather than SATA. I found out later that you need to do a special installation procedure to get XP to recognize the HD as an SATA HD - way beyond the scope of this email. It turned out that for typical PC usage there is a negligible difference in performance between using an SATA HD as SATA or as EIDE. Dan -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Drew Wutka Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 10:36 AM To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving Subject: Re: [AccessD] Downgrading Vista There are also hardware changes that work in Vista and not XP, such as the new Serial ATA hard drives. Doing an install with Vista, and it flies right through, try to install with XP, and it won't even see the hard drive! Drew -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Charlotte Foust Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 10:29 AM To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving Subject: Re: [AccessD] Downgrading Vista Depending on the machine you have, it may not be possible. Apparently some manufacturers don't provide XP drivers for their devices now that Vista is out. I have a friend who does this kind of thing for a living and he's had HP laptops that simply could not be downgraded to XP and work. Charlotte Foust -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Karen Sent: Sunday, July 13, 2008 7:09 PM To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' Subject: [AccessD] Downgrading Vista I am fed up with Vista Ultimate on my laptop. I want to downgrade to XP Pro and I have 2 bootable CDs with it. However, my damn laptop won't let either one boot. It starts and then I get the Blue Screen of Death with the following (useless) message: STOP: 0x0000007E (0xC0000005, 0xF748E0BF, 0xF78DA208, 0xF78D9F08) Pci.sys - Address F748E0BF base at F7487000, Datestamp 3b7d855c How do I format the damn hard drive with Vista? TIA Regards, Karen Rosenstiel Seattle WA USA No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 270.4.10/1550 - Release Date: 7/13/2008 5:58 PM -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com The information contained in this transmission is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain II-VI Proprietary and/or II-VI Business Sensitive material. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender immediately and destroy the material in its entirety, whether electronic or hard copy. You are notified that any review, retransmission, copying, disclosure, dissemination, or other use of, or taking of any action in reliance upon this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient is prohibited. -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 270.4.10/1552 - Release Date: 7/14/2008 6:28 PM No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 270.4.10/1552 - Release Date: 7/14/2008 6:28 PM -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com This email and any attachments may contain privileged and confidential information and are intended for the named addressee only. If you have received this e-mail in error, please notify the sender and delete this e-mail immediately. Any confidentiality, privilege or copyright is not waived or lost because this e-mail has been sent to you in error. It is your responsibility to check this e-mail and any attachments for viruses. No warranty is made that this material is free from computer virus or any other defect or error. Any loss/damage incurred by using this material is not the sender's responsibility. The sender's entire liability will be limited to resupplying the material. From stuart at lexacorp.com.pg Mon Jul 14 22:08:33 2008 From: stuart at lexacorp.com.pg (Stuart McLachlan) Date: Tue, 15 Jul 2008 13:08:33 +1000 Subject: [AccessD] Just in case In-Reply-To: <29f585dd0807141831j3ff86a37q46ff9dadf2e5ebe2@mail.gmail.com> References: <054001c8e615$bdd231f0$2f8601c7@SusanOne> Message-ID: <487CA151.11329.22601A2@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg> 60 mph. That's only a Storm. It's only 52 knots. I've seen that sailing across the Coral Sea in a 38ft yacht Wait for your first real Hurricane - anything over 75mph, potentially up to double that. :-) On 14 Jul 2008 at 22:31, Arthur Fuller wrote: > YawYawYaw, concrete roof and solid windows and everything. Amazing winds > today, and I'm told this is just a little storm. 60mph, at one point I had > to grab a building to remain stable, wow. And now I'm told that this was > just a little-girl storm. A genuine hurricane delivers 200 mph, I'm told. > Holy cow. 50 mph was awesome. I can't even imagine 200 mph. Wow. > > 60 yo but never too old to learn something new, > A. > > On Mon, Jul 14, 2008 at 9:57 PM, Susan Harkins wrote: > > > > > > > > How much more secure can you get than a concrete house? > > > > This concrete house has a roof and windows? > > > > Susan H. > > -- > > AccessD mailing list > > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > > -- > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From john at winhaven.net Mon Jul 14 22:26:34 2008 From: john at winhaven.net (John Bartow) Date: Mon, 14 Jul 2008 22:26:34 -0500 Subject: [AccessD] Downgrading Vista In-Reply-To: <200807150213.m6F2DTkF032106@databaseadvisors.com> Message-ID: <200807150326.m6F3QJRV030538@databaseadvisors.com> LOL! Yes, MS distributes their OSes on R/W CDs! ;o) OEM XP will not activate if it has been registered and you will occasionally have to call in if the hardware profile has changed too much but even then it's a 5 minute call. The "CD" has nothing to do with it, it's the activation registry database on the web. If you retail XP you legally have the right to have it installed on one PC at a time. John B. -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Karen Rosenstiel OK, here's the latest. I called Dell tech support and explained the situation. I told him that I had 2 old XP Pro cd's. He immediately got all upset and told me I couldn't use them. I explained that the machines they came on were long gone. Then he told me that there was something on the cd that would prevent it from loading if it had already been used and registered on another machine. I told him point blank I didn't believe him. Especially since I've used these cd's on several machines for years as I upgraded. Just had to call MS and they gave me the code. The only good thing that came out of the conversation is that he did tell me that my machine would take XP -- I just had to buy another cd. This is really and truly annoying me. From edzedz at comcast.net Mon Jul 14 23:27:00 2008 From: edzedz at comcast.net (Edward S Zuris) Date: Mon, 14 Jul 2008 21:27:00 -0700 Subject: [AccessD] Downgrading Vista In-Reply-To: <200807150213.m6F2DTkF032106@databaseadvisors.com> Message-ID: <026d01c8e633$07205860$e0dea8c0@dudley1> Karen what is the Model number of your PC ? -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Karen Rosenstiel Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 7:14 PM To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' Subject: Re: [AccessD] Downgrading Vista OK, here's the latest. I called Dell tech support and explained the situation. I told him that I had 2 old XP Pro cd's. He immediately got all upset and told me I couldn't use them. I explained that the machines they came on were long gone. Then he told me that there was something on the cd that would prevent it from loading if it had already been used and registered on another machine. I told him point blank I didn't believe him. Especially since I've used these cd's on several machines for years as I upgraded. Just had to call MS and they gave me the code. The only good thing that came out of the conversation is that he did tell me that my machine would take XP -- I just had to buy another cd. This is really and truly annoying me. Regards, Karen Rosenstiel Seattle WA USA -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Dan Waters Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 8:53 AM To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' Subject: Re: [AccessD] Downgrading Vista I installed Win XP Pro on a PC with a blank HD and it installed fine, recognizing the HD as EIDE, rather than SATA. I found out later that you need to do a special installation procedure to get XP to recognize the HD as an SATA HD - way beyond the scope of this email. It turned out that for typical PC usage there is a negligible difference in performance between using an SATA HD as SATA or as EIDE. Dan -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Drew Wutka Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 10:36 AM To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving Subject: Re: [AccessD] Downgrading Vista There are also hardware changes that work in Vista and not XP, such as the new Serial ATA hard drives. Doing an install with Vista, and it flies right through, try to install with XP, and it won't even see the hard drive! Drew -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Charlotte Foust Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 10:29 AM To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving Subject: Re: [AccessD] Downgrading Vista Depending on the machine you have, it may not be possible. Apparently some manufacturers don't provide XP drivers for their devices now that Vista is out. I have a friend who does this kind of thing for a living and he's had HP laptops that simply could not be downgraded to XP and work. Charlotte Foust -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Karen Sent: Sunday, July 13, 2008 7:09 PM To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' Subject: [AccessD] Downgrading Vista I am fed up with Vista Ultimate on my laptop. I want to downgrade to XP Pro and I have 2 bootable CDs with it. However, my damn laptop won't let either one boot. It starts and then I get the Blue Screen of Death with the following (useless) message: STOP: 0x0000007E (0xC0000005, 0xF748E0BF, 0xF78DA208, 0xF78D9F08) Pci.sys - Address F748E0BF base at F7487000, Datestamp 3b7d855c How do I format the damn hard drive with Vista? TIA Regards, Karen Rosenstiel Seattle WA USA No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 270.4.10/1550 - Release Date: 7/13/2008 5:58 PM -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com The information contained in this transmission is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain II-VI Proprietary and/or II-VI Business Sensitive material. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender immediately and destroy the material in its entirety, whether electronic or hard copy. 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Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 270.4.10/1552 - Release Date: 7/14/2008 6:28 PM -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From rbgajewski at adelphia.net Mon Jul 14 22:31:49 2008 From: rbgajewski at adelphia.net (Bob Gajewski) Date: Mon, 14 Jul 2008 23:31:49 -0400 Subject: [AccessD] Downgrading Vista In-Reply-To: <57E6E6CA42105A48B977303A2CDC2720076BF12D41@WPEXCH22.retail.ad.cmltd.net.au> References: <200807150213.m6F2DTkF032106@databaseadvisors.com> <57E6E6CA42105A48B977303A2CDC2720076BF12D41@WPEXCH22.retail.ad.cmltd.net.au> Message-ID: <2EBFBE0BB55D4CE19BC8532F69630FA4@DCYN3T81> Karen The only caveat that I can add is that when you run Windows Update after a clean install, *always* use the Express mode, repeatedly, until there are no more automatically-selected updates. Then - and only then - run Windows Update in the Custom mode to finish tweaking your system. That has always worked for me. Regards, Bob Gajewski -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Darryl Collins Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 23:06 PM To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' Subject: Re: [AccessD] Downgrading Vista I suspect that is an absolute load of crap. I have loaded multiple different PC's over the years with the Same XP disk and not had any hassles. You can use old lic keys - you have paid for it and if the machine the OS is installed on dies, you can move that OS and key to another unit - if you have any bother a call to Microsoft usually sorts it out and they ensure that your key is valid, although I rarely have any bother, I have only ever had to call them once. I think you said you have wiped the disk clean, but if not, I would do a full disk wipe and reformat. Then boot off the XP disk from the BOIS (press F12 on a dell i think during boot). Windows should install from the CD directly. I would suggest having the beast wired into your internet connection so it can download stuff during the install. -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Karen Rosenstiel Sent: Tuesday, 15 July 2008 12:14 PM To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' Subject: Re: [AccessD] Downgrading Vista OK, here's the latest. I called Dell tech support and explained the situation. I told him that I had 2 old XP Pro cd's. He immediately got all upset and told me I couldn't use them. I explained that the machines they came on were long gone. Then he told me that there was something on the cd that would prevent it from loading if it had already been used and registered on another machine. I told him point blank I didn't believe him. Especially since I've used these cd's on several machines for years as I upgraded. Just had to call MS and they gave me the code. The only good thing that came out of the conversation is that he did tell me that my machine would take XP -- I just had to buy another cd. This is really and truly annoying me. Regards, Karen Rosenstiel Seattle WA USA -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Dan Waters Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 8:53 AM To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' Subject: Re: [AccessD] Downgrading Vista I installed Win XP Pro on a PC with a blank HD and it installed fine, recognizing the HD as EIDE, rather than SATA. I found out later that you need to do a special installation procedure to get XP to recognize the HD as an SATA HD - way beyond the scope of this email. It turned out that for typical PC usage there is a negligible difference in performance between using an SATA HD as SATA or as EIDE. Dan -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Drew Wutka Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 10:36 AM To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving Subject: Re: [AccessD] Downgrading Vista There are also hardware changes that work in Vista and not XP, such as the new Serial ATA hard drives. Doing an install with Vista, and it flies right through, try to install with XP, and it won't even see the hard drive! Drew -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Charlotte Foust Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 10:29 AM To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving Subject: Re: [AccessD] Downgrading Vista Depending on the machine you have, it may not be possible. Apparently some manufacturers don't provide XP drivers for their devices now that Vista is out. I have a friend who does this kind of thing for a living and he's had HP laptops that simply could not be downgraded to XP and work. Charlotte Foust -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Karen Sent: Sunday, July 13, 2008 7:09 PM To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' Subject: [AccessD] Downgrading Vista I am fed up with Vista Ultimate on my laptop. I want to downgrade to XP Pro and I have 2 bootable CDs with it. However, my damn laptop won't let either one boot. It starts and then I get the Blue Screen of Death with the following (useless) message: STOP: 0x0000007E (0xC0000005, 0xF748E0BF, 0xF78DA208, 0xF78D9F08) Pci.sys - Address F748E0BF base at F7487000, Datestamp 3b7d855c How do I format the damn hard drive with Vista? TIA Regards, Karen Rosenstiel Seattle WA USA From Darryl.Collins at coles.com.au Mon Jul 14 22:43:55 2008 From: Darryl.Collins at coles.com.au (Darryl Collins) Date: Tue, 15 Jul 2008 13:43:55 +1000 Subject: [AccessD] Downgrading Vista In-Reply-To: <2EBFBE0BB55D4CE19BC8532F69630FA4@DCYN3T81> Message-ID: <57E6E6CA42105A48B977303A2CDC2720076BF12D42@WPEXCH22.retail.ad.cmltd.net.au> That approach has traditionally worked well for me, although just the other week I had to re-install XP pro onto an old laptop of mine and windows update kept crashing the entire OS which required a repair or reinstall. After a few days of this I gave up with MS update and I ended up getting XP SP3 and IE7.0 from a 3rd party site and installing them from the desktop - oddly enough, this didn't seem to require any validation checks (?). Now i have had no more problems and automatic updates are working fine. darryl. -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Bob Gajewski Sent: Tuesday, 15 July 2008 1:32 PM To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' Subject: Re: [AccessD] Downgrading Vista Karen The only caveat that I can add is that when you run Windows Update after a clean install, *always* use the Express mode, repeatedly, until there are no more automatically-selected updates. Then - and only then - run Windows Update in the Custom mode to finish tweaking your system. That has always worked for me. Regards, Bob Gajewski -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Darryl Collins Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 23:06 PM To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' Subject: Re: [AccessD] Downgrading Vista I suspect that is an absolute load of crap. I have loaded multiple different PC's over the years with the Same XP disk and not had any hassles. You can use old lic keys - you have paid for it and if the machine the OS is installed on dies, you can move that OS and key to another unit - if you have any bother a call to Microsoft usually sorts it out and they ensure that your key is valid, although I rarely have any bother, I have only ever had to call them once. I think you said you have wiped the disk clean, but if not, I would do a full disk wipe and reformat. Then boot off the XP disk from the BOIS (press F12 on a dell i think during boot). Windows should install from the CD directly. I would suggest having the beast wired into your internet connection so it can download stuff during the install. -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Karen Rosenstiel Sent: Tuesday, 15 July 2008 12:14 PM To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' Subject: Re: [AccessD] Downgrading Vista OK, here's the latest. I called Dell tech support and explained the situation. I told him that I had 2 old XP Pro cd's. He immediately got all upset and told me I couldn't use them. I explained that the machines they came on were long gone. Then he told me that there was something on the cd that would prevent it from loading if it had already been used and registered on another machine. I told him point blank I didn't believe him. Especially since I've used these cd's on several machines for years as I upgraded. Just had to call MS and they gave me the code. The only good thing that came out of the conversation is that he did tell me that my machine would take XP -- I just had to buy another cd. This is really and truly annoying me. Regards, Karen Rosenstiel Seattle WA USA -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Dan Waters Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 8:53 AM To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' Subject: Re: [AccessD] Downgrading Vista I installed Win XP Pro on a PC with a blank HD and it installed fine, recognizing the HD as EIDE, rather than SATA. I found out later that you need to do a special installation procedure to get XP to recognize the HD as an SATA HD - way beyond the scope of this email. It turned out that for typical PC usage there is a negligible difference in performance between using an SATA HD as SATA or as EIDE. Dan -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Drew Wutka Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 10:36 AM To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving Subject: Re: [AccessD] Downgrading Vista There are also hardware changes that work in Vista and not XP, such as the new Serial ATA hard drives. Doing an install with Vista, and it flies right through, try to install with XP, and it won't even see the hard drive! Drew -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Charlotte Foust Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 10:29 AM To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving Subject: Re: [AccessD] Downgrading Vista Depending on the machine you have, it may not be possible. Apparently some manufacturers don't provide XP drivers for their devices now that Vista is out. I have a friend who does this kind of thing for a living and he's had HP laptops that simply could not be downgraded to XP and work. Charlotte Foust -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Karen Sent: Sunday, July 13, 2008 7:09 PM To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' Subject: [AccessD] Downgrading Vista I am fed up with Vista Ultimate on my laptop. I want to downgrade to XP Pro and I have 2 bootable CDs with it. However, my damn laptop won't let either one boot. It starts and then I get the Blue Screen of Death with the following (useless) message: STOP: 0x0000007E (0xC0000005, 0xF748E0BF, 0xF78DA208, 0xF78D9F08) Pci.sys - Address F748E0BF base at F7487000, Datestamp 3b7d855c How do I format the damn hard drive with Vista? TIA Regards, Karen Rosenstiel Seattle WA USA -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com This email and any attachments may contain privileged and confidential information and are intended for the named addressee only. If you have received this e-mail in error, please notify the sender and delete this e-mail immediately. Any confidentiality, privilege or copyright is not waived or lost because this e-mail has been sent to you in error. It is your responsibility to check this e-mail and any attachments for viruses. No warranty is made that this material is free from computer virus or any other defect or error. Any loss/damage incurred by using this material is not the sender's responsibility. The sender's entire liability will be limited to resupplying the material. From accessd at shaw.ca Mon Jul 14 16:30:39 2008 From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence) Date: Mon, 14 Jul 2008 14:30:39 -0700 Subject: [AccessD] Downgrading Vista In-Reply-To: <071420081715.19457.487B8996000937CD00004C012216566276040A079B9C020A9C019D05@comcast.net> References: <071420081715.19457.487B8996000937CD00004C012216566276040A079B9C020A9C019D05@comcast.net> Message-ID: <062DEEAA4D284FADA415BDD821A2B7E4@creativesystemdesigns.com> Karen: If the worse comes to the worse you can always switch to Ububtu Linux (easier than XP/Vista apparently) and install Wine or Parallel so you can run some of your MS apps. (The latest versions of Linux have no issues with SATA drives). Jim -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of krosenstiel at comcast.net Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 10:15 AM To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving Subject: Re: [AccessD] Downgrading Vista I do have a USB floppy. Got it when I got the laptop just for such current episodes. -- Karen Rosenstiel Seattle WA USA -------------- Original message ---------------------- From: "Edward S Zuris" > > You can buy a floppy hooked to a USB. > > I have used those in the past on Laptops > with no floppy drive. > > -----Original Message----- > From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Charlotte > Foust > Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 9:29 AM > To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving > Subject: Re: [AccessD] Downgrading Vista > > > I hope you don't really mean floppy disk, John. My laptop doesn't have > floppy drives and neither do any of the others I've seen. > > Charlotte Foust > > -----Original Message----- > From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of John Bartow > Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 9:20 AM > To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' > Subject: Re: [AccessD] Downgrading Vista > > If you have either SCSI or SATA drives you can install XP but while > doing so you must watch for the (initial blue) screen that asks you to > press F6 for additional drivers (or something to that effect). You then > need to have those drivers ready on a floppy disk. > > HTH > John B. > > -- > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > -- > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From Darryl.Collins at coles.com.au Mon Jul 14 22:56:02 2008 From: Darryl.Collins at coles.com.au (Darryl Collins) Date: Tue, 15 Jul 2008 13:56:02 +1000 Subject: [AccessD] Downgrading Vista In-Reply-To: <200807150213.m6F2DTkF032106@databaseadvisors.com> Message-ID: <57E6E6CA42105A48B977303A2CDC2720076BF12D43@WPEXCH22.retail.ad.cmltd.net.au> There seems to be a fair bit of info out there... not sure how much of it will be helpful to you http://au.search.yahoo.com/search?p=windows+XP+Pro+SATA+drives+problem&fr=yfp-t-501&ei=UTF-8 regards Darryl This email and any attachments may contain privileged and confidential information and are intended for the named addressee only. 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From Darryl.Collins at coles.com.au Mon Jul 14 23:03:00 2008 From: Darryl.Collins at coles.com.au (Darryl Collins) Date: Tue, 15 Jul 2008 14:03:00 +1000 Subject: [AccessD] Downgrading Vista In-Reply-To: <200807150213.m6F2DTkF032106@databaseadvisors.com> Message-ID: <57E6E6CA42105A48B977303A2CDC2720076BF12D44@WPEXCH22.retail.ad.cmltd.net.au> This looks complicated, but promising... http://www.maximumpc.com/article/How-To--Slipstream-your-XP-installation This email and any attachments may contain privileged and confidential information and are intended for the named addressee only. If you have received this e-mail in error, please notify the sender and delete this e-mail immediately. Any confidentiality, privilege or copyright is not waived or lost because this e-mail has been sent to you in error. It is your responsibility to check this e-mail and any attachments for viruses. No warranty is made that this material is free from computer virus or any other defect or error. Any loss/damage incurred by using this material is not the sender's responsibility. The sender's entire liability will be limited to resupplying the material. From krosenstiel at comcast.net Mon Jul 14 23:14:02 2008 From: krosenstiel at comcast.net (Karen) Date: Mon, 14 Jul 2008 21:14:02 -0700 Subject: [AccessD] Downgrading Vista In-Reply-To: <026d01c8e633$07205860$e0dea8c0@dudley1> Message-ID: <200807150413.m6F4Df0C022928@databaseadvisors.com> It's a Dell Inspiron E1405. Got it about a year ago. -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Edward S Zuris Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 9:27 PM To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' Subject: Re: [AccessD] Downgrading Vista Karen what is the Model number of your PC ? -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Karen Rosenstiel Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 7:14 PM To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' Subject: Re: [AccessD] Downgrading Vista OK, here's the latest. I called Dell tech support and explained the situation. I told him that I had 2 old XP Pro cd's. He immediately got all upset and told me I couldn't use them. I explained that the machines they came on were long gone. Then he told me that there was something on the cd that would prevent it from loading if it had already been used and registered on another machine. I told him point blank I didn't believe him. Especially since I've used these cd's on several machines for years as I upgraded. Just had to call MS and they gave me the code. The only good thing that came out of the conversation is that he did tell me that my machine would take XP -- I just had to buy another cd. This is really and truly annoying me. Regards, Karen Rosenstiel Seattle WA USA -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Dan Waters Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 8:53 AM To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' Subject: Re: [AccessD] Downgrading Vista I installed Win XP Pro on a PC with a blank HD and it installed fine, recognizing the HD as EIDE, rather than SATA. I found out later that you need to do a special installation procedure to get XP to recognize the HD as an SATA HD - way beyond the scope of this email. It turned out that for typical PC usage there is a negligible difference in performance between using an SATA HD as SATA or as EIDE. Dan -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Drew Wutka Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 10:36 AM To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving Subject: Re: [AccessD] Downgrading Vista There are also hardware changes that work in Vista and not XP, such as the new Serial ATA hard drives. Doing an install with Vista, and it flies right through, try to install with XP, and it won't even see the hard drive! Drew -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Charlotte Foust Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 10:29 AM To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving Subject: Re: [AccessD] Downgrading Vista Depending on the machine you have, it may not be possible. Apparently some manufacturers don't provide XP drivers for their devices now that Vista is out. I have a friend who does this kind of thing for a living and he's had HP laptops that simply could not be downgraded to XP and work. Charlotte Foust -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Karen Sent: Sunday, July 13, 2008 7:09 PM To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' Subject: [AccessD] Downgrading Vista I am fed up with Vista Ultimate on my laptop. I want to downgrade to XP Pro and I have 2 bootable CDs with it. However, my damn laptop won't let either one boot. It starts and then I get the Blue Screen of Death with the following (useless) message: STOP: 0x0000007E (0xC0000005, 0xF748E0BF, 0xF78DA208, 0xF78D9F08) Pci.sys - Address F748E0BF base at F7487000, Datestamp 3b7d855c How do I format the damn hard drive with Vista? TIA Regards, Karen Rosenstiel Seattle WA USA No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 270.4.10/1550 - Release Date: 7/13/2008 5:58 PM -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com The information contained in this transmission is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain II-VI Proprietary and/or II-VI Business Sensitive material. 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Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 270.4.10/1552 - Release Date: 7/14/2008 6:28 PM -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 270.4.10/1552 - Release Date: 7/14/2008 6:28 PM No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 270.4.10/1552 - Release Date: 7/14/2008 6:28 PM From krosenstiel at comcast.net Mon Jul 14 23:25:42 2008 From: krosenstiel at comcast.net (Karen Rosenstiel) Date: Mon, 14 Jul 2008 21:25:42 -0700 Subject: [AccessD] Downgrading Vista In-Reply-To: <062DEEAA4D284FADA415BDD821A2B7E4@creativesystemdesigns.com> Message-ID: <200807150425.m6F4PLVC029929@databaseadvisors.com> Guess what? That's exactly what I did. After the first call with that Dell idiot, I did some research. Sure enough, if you get a box with Vista Business or Ultimate pre-installed, you can downgrad to XP. So I called Dell back and told them that. This time they flat refused to help me. So I called MS. Well, credit where credit is due! After MS verified my XP cd was a legitimate retail purchase, I got a tech guy from New Delhi (I asked him) who was intelligent, efficient and helpful. Spoke English pretty well too. But basically what it came down to was some pci drivers. He apologized profusely but referred me back to Dell for assistance in disabling the drivers. So I said the hell with it and installed Ubuntu. I had a DVD with 10 full distros, but I do like Ubuntu/Kubuntu the best. It's a little cranky on my box -- no network yet -- but did a good job of picking up most of the hardware. Tomorrow I will install XAMPP, an easy installer for Apache, MySQL, PCP and Perl. Very painless. Then I can use this box to learn PCP/MySQL. I have a big project I volunteered for to redo someone else's web site -- a pretty site but gawdawful code. For right now, it's bed time. Thanks for all the support Regards, Karen Rosenstiel Seattle WA USA -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim Lawrence Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 2:31 PM To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' Subject: Re: [AccessD] Downgrading Vista Karen: If the worse comes to the worse you can always switch to Ububtu Linux (easier than XP/Vista apparently) and install Wine or Parallel so you can run some of your MS apps. (The latest versions of Linux have no issues with SATA drives). Jim -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of krosenstiel at comcast.net Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 10:15 AM To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving Subject: Re: [AccessD] Downgrading Vista I do have a USB floppy. Got it when I got the laptop just for such current episodes. -- Karen Rosenstiel Seattle WA USA -------------- Original message ---------------------- From: "Edward S Zuris" > > You can buy a floppy hooked to a USB. > > I have used those in the past on Laptops with no floppy drive. > > -----Original Message----- > From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Charlotte > Foust > Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 9:29 AM > To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving > Subject: Re: [AccessD] Downgrading Vista > > > I hope you don't really mean floppy disk, John. My laptop doesn't > have floppy drives and neither do any of the others I've seen. > > Charlotte Foust > > -----Original Message----- > From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of John Bartow > Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 9:20 AM > To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' > Subject: Re: [AccessD] Downgrading Vista > > If you have either SCSI or SATA drives you can install XP but while > doing so you must watch for the (initial blue) screen that asks you to > press F6 for additional drivers (or something to that effect). You > then need to have those drivers ready on a floppy disk. > > HTH > John B. > > -- > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > -- > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 270.4.10/1552 - Release Date: 7/14/2008 6:28 PM No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 270.4.10/1552 - Release Date: 7/14/2008 6:28 PM From kp at sdsonline.net Mon Jul 14 23:57:56 2008 From: kp at sdsonline.net (Kath Pelletti) Date: Tue, 15 Jul 2008 14:57:56 +1000 Subject: [AccessD] amending code for variable form name - Syntax help Message-ID: <001401c8e637$59c79160$6401a8c0@DELLAPTOP> Need some syntax help. I need to set a form's visible property to true. It works if I explicity use the form name, eg. Forms!frmPersonDetails.Form.Visible = True But where I use a variable eg: Forms!frmCallingForm.Form.Visible = True it doesn;t. How do I amend the code to include the variable frmcallingform? The code which creates and sets the variable form name is shown below: Dim frmCallingForm As Form Set frmCallingForm = Forms("frmPersonDetails") ______________________________________ Kath Pelletti Software Design and Solutions Pty Ltd Ph: 9505-6714 Fax: 9505-6430 kp at sdsonline.net From DWUTKA at Marlow.com Tue Jul 15 00:09:44 2008 From: DWUTKA at Marlow.com (Drew Wutka) Date: Tue, 15 Jul 2008 00:09:44 -0500 Subject: [AccessD] Just in case In-Reply-To: <29f585dd0807141624g50da1837r62527cdf101664b9@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: My thoughts are with you Arthur..find something sturdier then a bedframe to hang on too. Drew -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Arthur Fuller Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 6:24 PM To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving Subject: [AccessD] Just in case I'm new to this Bertha stuff and I'm living in a concrete home so probably nothing will occur, but just on the off-chance that I'm swept away into the ocean or my house is crushed by some giant tree, I just want to tell you all that it's been fun getting to know you all. I'm not afraid, I love violent weather, but this is a tad more violent than I'm used to. I'll hang on to my bedframe and hope for the best LOL. 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From paul.hartland at googlemail.com Tue Jul 15 01:30:49 2008 From: paul.hartland at googlemail.com (Paul Hartland) Date: Tue, 15 Jul 2008 07:30:49 +0100 Subject: [AccessD] amending code for variable form name - Syntax help In-Reply-To: <001401c8e637$59c79160$6401a8c0@DELLAPTOP> References: <001401c8e637$59c79160$6401a8c0@DELLAPTOP> Message-ID: <38c884770807142330x37d81d46t1c1821955b91dcb2@mail.gmail.com> Kath, I remember doing something similar a while back, where I needed to remember the name of the form which opened another form. Unfortunately I can't find my code, but try something like below: Forms(frmCallingForm).Form.Visible = True If that doesn't work, try without the .Form: Forms(frmCallingForm).Visible = True Paul Hartland 2008/7/15 Kath Pelletti : > Need some syntax help. > > I need to set a form's visible property to true. It works if I explicity > use the form name, eg. > > Forms!frmPersonDetails.Form.Visible = True > > But where I use a variable eg: > > Forms!frmCallingForm.Form.Visible = True > > it doesn;t. How do I amend the code to include the variable frmcallingform? > The code which creates and sets the variable form name is shown below: > > Dim frmCallingForm As Form > Set frmCallingForm = Forms("frmPersonDetails") > > > ______________________________________ > Kath Pelletti > Software Design and Solutions Pty Ltd > Ph: 9505-6714 > Fax: 9505-6430 > kp at sdsonline.net > -- > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > -- Paul Hartland paul.hartland at googlemail.com From stuart at lexacorp.com.pg Tue Jul 15 01:33:46 2008 From: stuart at lexacorp.com.pg (Stuart McLachlan) Date: Tue, 15 Jul 2008 16:33:46 +1000 Subject: [AccessD] amending code for variable form name - Syntax help In-Reply-To: <001401c8e637$59c79160$6401a8c0@DELLAPTOP> Message-ID: <487CD16A.7678.2E1E270@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg> Just use frmCallingForm.Visible =True Since you have dimmed the variable as a Form, you don't need the Forms!....Form bit. On 15 Jul 2008 at 14:57, Kath Pelletti wrote: > Need some syntax help. > > I need to set a form's visible property to true. It works if I explicity use the form name, eg. > > Forms!frmPersonDetails.Form.Visible = True > > But where I use a variable eg: > > Forms!frmCallingForm.Form.Visible = True > > it doesn;t. How do I amend the code to include the variable frmcallingform? The code which creates and sets the variable form name is shown below: > > Dim frmCallingForm As Form > Set frmCallingForm = Forms("frmPersonDetails") > > > ______________________________________ > Kath Pelletti > Software Design and Solutions Pty Ltd > Ph: 9505-6714 > Fax: 9505-6430 > kp at sdsonline.net > -- > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From fuller.artful at gmail.com Tue Jul 15 01:54:48 2008 From: fuller.artful at gmail.com (Arthur Fuller) Date: Tue, 15 Jul 2008 03:54:48 -0300 Subject: [AccessD] Just in case In-Reply-To: References: <29f585dd0807141624g50da1837r62527cdf101664b9@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <29f585dd0807142354n39bda270ta61262b3b870c9f9@mail.gmail.com> It seems to be over now. And yes, I realize this was only a storm. But for a naive Canadian, it was still pretty thrilling. I didn't get a lick of work done. I was too busy admiring Mother Nature. Which is kind of unfortunate, since I still have this problem with an Access app that tries to use Filter By Form and something in the process goes sideways. Now that it's all calm I'm out of excuses so I guess I'll work on it now. At this time of night the soundscape is filled with tree-frogs. I wonder where they go during such a storm as yesterday, because I didn't hear a peep out of them during the tempest. Arthur On Tue, Jul 15, 2008 at 2:09 AM, Drew Wutka wrote: > My thoughts are with you Arthur..find something sturdier then a bedframe > to hang on too. > > Drew > From kp at sdsonline.net Tue Jul 15 02:59:17 2008 From: kp at sdsonline.net (Kath Pelletti) Date: Tue, 15 Jul 2008 17:59:17 +1000 Subject: [AccessD] amending code for variable form name - Syntax help References: <487CD16A.7678.2E1E270@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg> Message-ID: <001301c8e650$aefabfe0$6401a8c0@DELLAPTOP> Thanks Stuart and Paul - perfect Kath ----- Original Message ----- From: "Stuart McLachlan" To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving" Sent: Tuesday, July 15, 2008 4:33 PM Subject: Re: [AccessD] amending code for variable form name - Syntax help > Just use frmCallingForm.Visible =True > > Since you have dimmed the variable as a Form, you don't need the > Forms!....Form bit. > > > > On 15 Jul 2008 at 14:57, Kath Pelletti wrote: > >> Need some syntax help. >> >> I need to set a form's visible property to true. It works if I explicity >> use the form name, eg. >> >> Forms!frmPersonDetails.Form.Visible = True >> >> But where I use a variable eg: >> >> Forms!frmCallingForm.Form.Visible = True >> >> it doesn;t. How do I amend the code to include the variable >> frmcallingform? The code which creates and sets the variable form name is >> shown below: >> >> Dim frmCallingForm As Form >> Set frmCallingForm = Forms("frmPersonDetails") >> >> >> ______________________________________ >> Kath Pelletti >> Software Design and Solutions Pty Ltd >> Ph: 9505-6714 >> Fax: 9505-6430 >> kp at sdsonline.net >> -- >> AccessD mailing list >> AccessD at databaseadvisors.com >> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd >> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > > -- > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > From fahooper1 at cox.net Tue Jul 15 06:44:03 2008 From: fahooper1 at cox.net (Fred Hooper) Date: Tue, 15 Jul 2008 07:44:03 -0400 Subject: [AccessD] Downgrading Vista In-Reply-To: <2EBFBE0BB55D4CE19BC8532F69630FA4@DCYN3T81> Message-ID: <70B3DB40906E4012B03D36C630021237@FRED6998B25045> I received the opposite advice, e.g. use Custom mode, because it required fewer reboots. The updating went relatively quickly. Fred -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Bob Gajewski Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 11:32 PM To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' Subject: Re: [AccessD] Downgrading Vista Karen The only caveat that I can add is that when you run Windows Update after a clean install, *always* use the Express mode, repeatedly, until there are no more automatically-selected updates. Then - and only then - run Windows Update in the Custom mode to finish tweaking your system. That has always worked for me. Regards, Bob Gajewski -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Darryl Collins Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 23:06 PM To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' Subject: Re: [AccessD] Downgrading Vista I suspect that is an absolute load of crap. I have loaded multiple different PC's over the years with the Same XP disk and not had any hassles. You can use old lic keys - you have paid for it and if the machine the OS is installed on dies, you can move that OS and key to another unit - if you have any bother a call to Microsoft usually sorts it out and they ensure that your key is valid, although I rarely have any bother, I have only ever had to call them once. I think you said you have wiped the disk clean, but if not, I would do a full disk wipe and reformat. Then boot off the XP disk from the BOIS (press F12 on a dell i think during boot). Windows should install from the CD directly. I would suggest having the beast wired into your internet connection so it can download stuff during the install. -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Karen Rosenstiel Sent: Tuesday, 15 July 2008 12:14 PM To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' Subject: Re: [AccessD] Downgrading Vista OK, here's the latest. I called Dell tech support and explained the situation. I told him that I had 2 old XP Pro cd's. He immediately got all upset and told me I couldn't use them. I explained that the machines they came on were long gone. Then he told me that there was something on the cd that would prevent it from loading if it had already been used and registered on another machine. I told him point blank I didn't believe him. Especially since I've used these cd's on several machines for years as I upgraded. Just had to call MS and they gave me the code. The only good thing that came out of the conversation is that he did tell me that my machine would take XP -- I just had to buy another cd. This is really and truly annoying me. Regards, Karen Rosenstiel Seattle WA USA -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Dan Waters Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 8:53 AM To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' Subject: Re: [AccessD] Downgrading Vista I installed Win XP Pro on a PC with a blank HD and it installed fine, recognizing the HD as EIDE, rather than SATA. I found out later that you need to do a special installation procedure to get XP to recognize the HD as an SATA HD - way beyond the scope of this email. It turned out that for typical PC usage there is a negligible difference in performance between using an SATA HD as SATA or as EIDE. Dan -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Drew Wutka Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 10:36 AM To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving Subject: Re: [AccessD] Downgrading Vista There are also hardware changes that work in Vista and not XP, such as the new Serial ATA hard drives. Doing an install with Vista, and it flies right through, try to install with XP, and it won't even see the hard drive! Drew -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Charlotte Foust Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 10:29 AM To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving Subject: Re: [AccessD] Downgrading Vista Depending on the machine you have, it may not be possible. Apparently some manufacturers don't provide XP drivers for their devices now that Vista is out. I have a friend who does this kind of thing for a living and he's had HP laptops that simply could not be downgraded to XP and work. Charlotte Foust -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Karen Sent: Sunday, July 13, 2008 7:09 PM To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' Subject: [AccessD] Downgrading Vista I am fed up with Vista Ultimate on my laptop. I want to downgrade to XP Pro and I have 2 bootable CDs with it. However, my damn laptop won't let either one boot. It starts and then I get the Blue Screen of Death with the following (useless) message: STOP: 0x0000007E (0xC0000005, 0xF748E0BF, 0xF78DA208, 0xF78D9F08) Pci.sys - Address F748E0BF base at F7487000, Datestamp 3b7d855c How do I format the damn hard drive with Vista? TIA Regards, Karen Rosenstiel Seattle WA USA -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From Gustav at cactus.dk Tue Jul 15 07:20:00 2008 From: Gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock) Date: Tue, 15 Jul 2008 14:20:00 +0200 Subject: [AccessD] OT: Downgrading Vista Message-ID: Hi Someone Why isn't all this techie stuff not routed to the tech list? /gustav >>> fahooper1 at cox.net 15-07-2008 13:44 >>> I received the opposite advice, e.g. use Custom mode, because it required fewer reboots. .. From shamil at smsconsulting.spb.ru Tue Jul 15 07:40:51 2008 From: shamil at smsconsulting.spb.ru (Shamil Salakhetdinov) Date: Tue, 15 Jul 2008 16:40:51 +0400 Subject: [AccessD] Feeling myself really stupid today - OT(?): MS SQL2000/2005 development issue... In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <14de01c8e678$0440aab0$6401a8c0@nant> Hi All, Below is a solution simple trigger, which I promised to publish here last Friday, and which I somehow missed to write last week trapped by many other details/features to work on. That happens. There is nothing that interesting in this trigger as far as I see now after weekend - just wanted to close this thread by posting what I announced to be posted. Thank you. -- Shamil P.S. -- -- Sets [Order].OrderRecalcNeeded flag to 1 when -- any of [Order] table's fields are updated -- -- Note: OrderRecalcNeeded flag field's value -- can be also updated (e.g. set to 0) -- together with other fields but such update -- will be overwritten by this trigger. -- Although if only OrderRecalcNeeded is -- updated then this trigger is fired but -- it doesn't set OrderRecalcNeeded to 1 -- Create trigger [dbo].[OrderUpdateTrigger] on [dbo].[Orders] for update as set nocount on begin if ( UPDATE([CustomerId]) OR UPDATE([EmployeeId]) OR UPDATE([OrderDate]) OR UPDATE([RequiredDate]) OR UPDATE([ShippedDate]) OR UPDATE([ShipVia]) OR UPDATE([Freight]) OR UPDATE([ShipName]) OR UPDATE([ShipAddress]) OR UPDATE([ShipCity]) OR UPDATE([ShipRegion]) OR UPDATE([ShipPostalCode]) OR UPDATE([ShipCountry]) ) update [Orders] set OrderRecalcNeeded = 1 where OrderId in ( select i.OrderId from inserted i, deleted d where i.OrderId = d.OrderId ) end GO -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gustav Brock Sent: Friday, July 11, 2008 3:12 PM To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: Re: [AccessD] Feeling myself really stupid today - OT(?): MS SQL2000/2005 development issue... Hi Shamil Isn't that what a T-SQL trigger is for? Or, for this "lengthy [AnalyseOrderDetailsAndCalcTotals] procedure", a CLR SQL Server trigger? http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/938d9dz2.aspx Pass the flag to the trigger. If the flag is zero, the trigger just exits. Or - as I would suspect you to - if you have a DataTable object, catch the CRUD events like: private void ChildInsertTrigger() { _childDataTable.TableNewRow += new DataTableNewRowEventHandler(_childDataTable_TableNewRow); } void _childDataTable_TableNewRow(object sender, DataTableNewRowEventArgs e) { // Pop a message. MessageBox.Show(e.Row.ToString()); // Run trigger code if flag of _parentDataTableRow is True. If (_parentRow.ExecuteFlag == True) { // Run lengthy [AnalyseOrderDetailsAndCalcTotals] procedure } } I much prefer the last option as I have the opinion that higher level logic and procedures should be kept off the database engine. Looking forward to the clever solution from you and your friend! /gustav >>> shamil at smsconsulting.spb.ru 11-07-2008 00:21 >>> Hi All, I must say I'm feeling myself really stupid today as I have got trapped for a couple of hours by a simple(?) task to solve - here it is (I'm sorry if the task definition below sounds ambiguous): Environment =========== MS SQL 2000/2005 Task ==== A table should be able to mark itself as requiring batch time consuming calculation to be executed by setting *its own* CalcRequired flag field when any of its fields are getting updated, or when any or its child table's rows are getting inserted, updated or deleted. The same CalcRequired flag should be still possible to set or to *clear* by explicit UPDATE sql statement. (Note: The definition of the above task is almost complete but some ambiguity in its definition is left to force you to think through and to effectively solve all the possible cases) Restrictions: ============= - there couldn't be any other auxiliary/temporary tables used in this task solutuion Typical application: ==================== 1. An [Order] and an [OrderDetail] tables. 2. [Order] table has to get lengthy [AnalyseOrderDetailsAndCalcTotals] procedure to be scheduled for execution when any of the [Order] table row fields are updated or when any of the child [OrderDetail] table rows related to the parent [Order] table row are inserted, updated or deleted 3. The scheduling of [AnalyseOrderDetailsAndCalcTotals] procedure to run is considered to be done when [Order].[CalcRequired] flag field is set to 1. 4. Lengthy [AnalyseOrderDetailsAndCalcTotals] procedure can be activated e.g. by Windows Service, which analyses value of [Order].[CalcRequired] flag, or this could be an MS SQL server job, which runs periodically, starts stored procedure, which checks value of [Order].[CalcRequired] flag of [Order] table rows, and runs [AnalyseOrderDetailsAndCalcTotals] (stored) procedure for the ones of them having this flag field equal to 1; when calculation is done then flag is set back to 0 (cleared). Or calculation can be done by an external program, (web) service etc., which supply the values to be used to update [Order] and [OrderDetail] table's rows and then clear [Order].[CalcRequired] flag field. Solution ========= - I think I have one to be published and criticized and improved in a day here, do you? Note ===== the above task seems to be an ordinary routine one but I somehow didn't need to get it done in the past, and therefore I got "trapped" by it today having many other complicated things todo and thinking this simple one can be solved by "cowboy attack": - I was wrong! - I needed to talk to my colleague to get it solved, and after he proposed the solution/approach I did think before but somehow didn't elaborate/dig into it good enough to get it done by myself... If you do have the solution for the above task from you past experience please wait and do not publish it here within a day, please give the others a chance to get it done by themselves... It's really simple when you have its solution at your hands... Or I'm missing something again today? Thank you. -- Shamil -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From garykjos at gmail.com Tue Jul 15 07:59:03 2008 From: garykjos at gmail.com (Gary Kjos) Date: Tue, 15 Jul 2008 07:59:03 -0500 Subject: [AccessD] Downgrading Vista In-Reply-To: <70B3DB40906E4012B03D36C630021237@FRED6998B25045> References: <2EBFBE0BB55D4CE19BC8532F69630FA4@DCYN3T81> <70B3DB40906E4012B03D36C630021237@FRED6998B25045> Message-ID: OK folks, let's take this discussion to the Tech List if it is to continue. Gary Kjos MODERATOR AccessD garykjos at gmail.com From rockysmolin at bchacc.com Tue Jul 15 08:17:38 2008 From: rockysmolin at bchacc.com (Rocky Smolin at Beach Access Software) Date: Tue, 15 Jul 2008 06:17:38 -0700 Subject: [AccessD] Saving a Record Message-ID: <00f201c8e67d$27bc9530$0301a8c0@HAL9005> Dear List: Is there a difference between: DoCmd.RunCommand acCmdSaveRecord and DoCmd.DoMenuItem acFormBar, acRecordsMenu, acSaveRecord, , acMenuVer70 ? MTIA, Rocky Smolin Beach Access Software 858-259-4334 www.e-z-mrp.com www.bchacc.com From Gustav at cactus.dk Tue Jul 15 08:17:50 2008 From: Gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock) Date: Tue, 15 Jul 2008 15:17:50 +0200 Subject: [AccessD] Feeling myself really stupid today - OT(?): MS SQL2000/2005 development issue... Message-ID: Hi Shamil Didn't mean to push you .. Clean and simple solution, by the way. Thanks! /gustav >>> shamil at smsconsulting.spb.ru 15-07-2008 14:40 >>> Hi All, Below is a solution simple trigger, which I promised to publish here last Friday, and which I somehow missed to write last week trapped by many other details/features to work on. That happens. There is nothing that interesting in this trigger as far as I see now after weekend - just wanted to close this thread by posting what I announced to be posted. Thank you. -- Shamil P.S. -- -- Sets [Order].OrderRecalcNeeded flag to 1 when -- any of [Order] table's fields are updated -- -- Note: OrderRecalcNeeded flag field's value -- can be also updated (e.g. set to 0) -- together with other fields but such update -- will be overwritten by this trigger. -- Although if only OrderRecalcNeeded is -- updated then this trigger is fired but -- it doesn't set OrderRecalcNeeded to 1 -- Create trigger [dbo].[OrderUpdateTrigger] on [dbo].[Orders] for update as set nocount on begin if ( UPDATE([CustomerId]) OR UPDATE([EmployeeId]) OR UPDATE([OrderDate]) OR UPDATE([RequiredDate]) OR UPDATE([ShippedDate]) OR UPDATE([ShipVia]) OR UPDATE([Freight]) OR UPDATE([ShipName]) OR UPDATE([ShipAddress]) OR UPDATE([ShipCity]) OR UPDATE([ShipRegion]) OR UPDATE([ShipPostalCode]) OR UPDATE([ShipCountry]) ) update [Orders] set OrderRecalcNeeded = 1 where OrderId in ( select i.OrderId from inserted i, deleted d where i.OrderId = d.OrderId ) end GO -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gustav Brock Sent: Friday, July 11, 2008 3:12 PM To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: Re: [AccessD] Feeling myself really stupid today - OT(?): MS SQL2000/2005 development issue... Hi Shamil Isn't that what a T-SQL trigger is for? Or, for this "lengthy [AnalyseOrderDetailsAndCalcTotals] procedure", a CLR SQL Server trigger? http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/938d9dz2.aspx Pass the flag to the trigger. If the flag is zero, the trigger just exits. Or - as I would suspect you to - if you have a DataTable object, catch the CRUD events like: private void ChildInsertTrigger() { _childDataTable.TableNewRow += new DataTableNewRowEventHandler(_childDataTable_TableNewRow); } void _childDataTable_TableNewRow(object sender, DataTableNewRowEventArgs e) { // Pop a message. MessageBox.Show(e.Row.ToString()); // Run trigger code if flag of _parentDataTableRow is True. If (_parentRow.ExecuteFlag == True) { // Run lengthy [AnalyseOrderDetailsAndCalcTotals] procedure } } I much prefer the last option as I have the opinion that higher level logic and procedures should be kept off the database engine. Looking forward to the clever solution from you and your friend! /gustav >>> shamil at smsconsulting.spb.ru 11-07-2008 00:21 >>> Hi All, I must say I'm feeling myself really stupid today as I have got trapped for a couple of hours by a simple(?) task to solve - here it is (I'm sorry if the task definition below sounds ambiguous): Environment =========== MS SQL 2000/2005 Task ==== A table should be able to mark itself as requiring batch time consuming calculation to be executed by setting *its own* CalcRequired flag field when any of its fields are getting updated, or when any or its child table's rows are getting inserted, updated or deleted. The same CalcRequired flag should be still possible to set or to *clear* by explicit UPDATE sql statement. (Note: The definition of the above task is almost complete but some ambiguity in its definition is left to force you to think through and to effectively solve all the possible cases) Restrictions: ============= - there couldn't be any other auxiliary/temporary tables used in this task solutuion Typical application: ==================== 1. An [Order] and an [OrderDetail] tables. 2. [Order] table has to get lengthy [AnalyseOrderDetailsAndCalcTotals] procedure to be scheduled for execution when any of the [Order] table row fields are updated or when any of the child [OrderDetail] table rows related to the parent [Order] table row are inserted, updated or deleted 3. The scheduling of [AnalyseOrderDetailsAndCalcTotals] procedure to run is considered to be done when [Order].[CalcRequired] flag field is set to 1. 4. Lengthy [AnalyseOrderDetailsAndCalcTotals] procedure can be activated e.g. by Windows Service, which analyses value of [Order].[CalcRequired] flag, or this could be an MS SQL server job, which runs periodically, starts stored procedure, which checks value of [Order].[CalcRequired] flag of [Order] table rows, and runs [AnalyseOrderDetailsAndCalcTotals] (stored) procedure for the ones of them having this flag field equal to 1; when calculation is done then flag is set back to 0 (cleared). Or calculation can be done by an external program, (web) service etc., which supply the values to be used to update [Order] and [OrderDetail] table's rows and then clear [Order].[CalcRequired] flag field. Solution ========= - I think I have one to be published and criticized and improved in a day here, do you? Note ===== the above task seems to be an ordinary routine one but I somehow didn't need to get it done in the past, and therefore I got "trapped" by it today having many other complicated things todo and thinking this simple one can be solved by "cowboy attack": - I was wrong! - I needed to talk to my colleague to get it solved, and after he proposed the solution/approach I did think before but somehow didn't elaborate/dig into it good enough to get it done by myself... If you do have the solution for the above task from you past experience please wait and do not publish it here within a day, please give the others a chance to get it done by themselves... It's really simple when you have its solution at your hands... Or I'm missing something again today? Thank you. -- Shamil From edzedz at comcast.net Tue Jul 15 09:47:34 2008 From: edzedz at comcast.net (Edward S Zuris) Date: Tue, 15 Jul 2008 07:47:34 -0700 Subject: [AccessD] Downgrading Vista In-Reply-To: <200807150413.m6F4Df0C022928@databaseadvisors.com> Message-ID: <027601c8e689$b81dd510$e0dea8c0@dudley1> I recently worked on an older Inspiron Using Nero I created a Boot CD that emulated a floppy disk. Boots to Win-98 in Dos. Used FDISK and FORMAT to blank hard drive Went to dell support url: http://support.dell.com/ Selected the following to get manuals and drivers then lots of work. --------------------------------- Technical Support Choose a Model Laptop Inspiron Laptop Select Product By Model > Laptops > Inspiron Laptop > E1405 A). Drivers & Downloads B). Manuals --------------------------------- B). Manuals Service Manual Owner's Manual Setup Diagram etc. Searched manuals for clues. --------------------------------- A). Drivers & Downloads Select XP Download everything important Build a CD with the unzipped drivers Install XP on a blank Laptop Hard Drive Install drivers one at a time You will have to go to control panel > system to remove thinks that don't work and re-install drivers reboot until everything is happy. Install service packs and layered software. Gave computer back to customer. -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Karen Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 9:14 PM To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' Subject: Re: [AccessD] Downgrading Vista It's a Dell Inspiron E1405. Got it about a year ago. -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Edward S Zuris Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 9:27 PM To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' Subject: Re: [AccessD] Downgrading Vista Karen what is the Model number of your PC ? -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Karen Rosenstiel Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 7:14 PM To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' Subject: Re: [AccessD] Downgrading Vista OK, here's the latest. I called Dell tech support and explained the situation. I told him that I had 2 old XP Pro cd's. He immediately got all upset and told me I couldn't use them. I explained that the machines they came on were long gone. Then he told me that there was something on the cd that would prevent it from loading if it had already been used and registered on another machine. I told him point blank I didn't believe him. Especially since I've used these cd's on several machines for years as I upgraded. Just had to call MS and they gave me the code. The only good thing that came out of the conversation is that he did tell me that my machine would take XP -- I just had to buy another cd. This is really and truly annoying me. Regards, Karen Rosenstiel Seattle WA USA -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Dan Waters Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 8:53 AM To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' Subject: Re: [AccessD] Downgrading Vista I installed Win XP Pro on a PC with a blank HD and it installed fine, recognizing the HD as EIDE, rather than SATA. I found out later that you need to do a special installation procedure to get XP to recognize the HD as an SATA HD - way beyond the scope of this email. It turned out that for typical PC usage there is a negligible difference in performance between using an SATA HD as SATA or as EIDE. Dan -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Drew Wutka Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 10:36 AM To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving Subject: Re: [AccessD] Downgrading Vista There are also hardware changes that work in Vista and not XP, such as the new Serial ATA hard drives. Doing an install with Vista, and it flies right through, try to install with XP, and it won't even see the hard drive! Drew -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Charlotte Foust Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 10:29 AM To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving Subject: Re: [AccessD] Downgrading Vista Depending on the machine you have, it may not be possible. Apparently some manufacturers don't provide XP drivers for their devices now that Vista is out. I have a friend who does this kind of thing for a living and he's had HP laptops that simply could not be downgraded to XP and work. Charlotte Foust -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Karen Sent: Sunday, July 13, 2008 7:09 PM To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' Subject: [AccessD] Downgrading Vista I am fed up with Vista Ultimate on my laptop. I want to downgrade to XP Pro and I have 2 bootable CDs with it. However, my damn laptop won't let either one boot. It starts and then I get the Blue Screen of Death with the following (useless) message: STOP: 0x0000007E (0xC0000005, 0xF748E0BF, 0xF78DA208, 0xF78D9F08) Pci.sys - Address F748E0BF base at F7487000, Datestamp 3b7d855c How do I format the damn hard drive with Vista? TIA Regards, Karen Rosenstiel Seattle WA USA No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 270.4.10/1550 - Release Date: 7/13/2008 5:58 PM -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com The information contained in this transmission is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain II-VI Proprietary and/or II-VI Business Sensitive material. 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Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 270.4.10/1552 - Release Date: 7/14/2008 6:28 PM -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From ssharkins at gmail.com Tue Jul 15 08:51:33 2008 From: ssharkins at gmail.com (Susan Harkins) Date: Tue, 15 Jul 2008 09:51:33 -0400 Subject: [AccessD] Saving a Record References: <00f201c8e67d$27bc9530$0301a8c0@HAL9005> Message-ID: <00d301c8e682$b7b357a0$2f8601c7@SusanOne> Well, I think that DoMenuItem is really old. Whether there's any difference it the subsequent actions, I don't know. Susan H. > Dear List: > > Is there a difference between: > > DoCmd.RunCommand acCmdSaveRecord > > and > > DoCmd.DoMenuItem acFormBar, acRecordsMenu, acSaveRecord, , acMenuVer70 > > ? > > MTIA, > > > > Rocky Smolin > > Beach Access Software > > 858-259-4334 > > www.e-z-mrp.com > > www.bchacc.com > > > > > > > -- > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From rockysmolin at bchacc.com Tue Jul 15 10:18:53 2008 From: rockysmolin at bchacc.com (Rocky Smolin at Beach Access Software) Date: Tue, 15 Jul 2008 08:18:53 -0700 Subject: [AccessD] Saving an Email to a folder Message-ID: <010201c8e68e$17e187e0$0301a8c0@HAL9005> Dear List: I have a client whose app generates emails. They're using Outlook. That's working OK. What he wants now is to save the email which is generated in a folder. I see that I can drag and drop an email from my Outlook into a folder and it makes a.msg file. And anything you can do manually in Office you can generally do through code. I've got the path to the folder. But I don't know how to go about doing this programmatically. Does anyone know or have a code snip to do this? MMTIA, Rocky Smolin Beach Access Software 858-259-4334 www.e-z-mrp.com www.bchacc.com From Lambert.Heenan at AIG.com Tue Jul 15 11:26:19 2008 From: Lambert.Heenan at AIG.com (Heenan, Lambert) Date: Tue, 15 Jul 2008 11:26:19 -0500 Subject: [AccessD] Saving an Email to a folder Message-ID: <34C8A2AB1EF3564CB0D64DB6AFFDD5C2173B646F@XLIVMBX35bkup.aig.com> I can send you an example Access db that does just that - saves the contents of an Outlook folder to a file system folder, optionally including sub-folders. I'll send if off-list. Lambert -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Rocky Smolin at Beach Access Software Sent: Tuesday, July 15, 2008 11:19 AM To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' Subject: [AccessD] Saving an Email to a folder Dear List: I have a client whose app generates emails. They're using Outlook. That's working OK. What he wants now is to save the email which is generated in a folder. I see that I can drag and drop an email from my Outlook into a folder and it makes a.msg file. And anything you can do manually in Office you can generally do through code. I've got the path to the folder. But I don't know how to go about doing this programmatically. Does anyone know or have a code snip to do this? MMTIA, Rocky Smolin Beach Access Software 858-259-4334 www.e-z-mrp.com www.bchacc.com -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From cfoust at infostatsystems.com Tue Jul 15 11:43:17 2008 From: cfoust at infostatsystems.com (Charlotte Foust) Date: Tue, 15 Jul 2008 09:43:17 -0700 Subject: [AccessD] Saving a Record In-Reply-To: <00f201c8e67d$27bc9530$0301a8c0@HAL9005> References: <00f201c8e67d$27bc9530$0301a8c0@HAL9005> Message-ID: Yep, the first is a lot clearer and easier to understand! LOL The second is referring to, what?, A95 menus? It's very archaic and over time, I replaced all instances like that with the runcommand equivalents. The funny thing was, even in 2002, the wizard build acMenuVer70 code! Charlotte Foust -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Rocky Smolin at Beach Access Software Sent: Tuesday, July 15, 2008 6:18 AM To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' Subject: [AccessD] Saving a Record Dear List: Is there a difference between: DoCmd.RunCommand acCmdSaveRecord and DoCmd.DoMenuItem acFormBar, acRecordsMenu, acSaveRecord, , acMenuVer70 ? MTIA, Rocky Smolin Beach Access Software 858-259-4334 www.e-z-mrp.com www.bchacc.com -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From rockysmolin at bchacc.com Tue Jul 15 11:47:20 2008 From: rockysmolin at bchacc.com (Rocky Smolin at Beach Access Software) Date: Tue, 15 Jul 2008 09:47:20 -0700 Subject: [AccessD] Saving an Email to a folder In-Reply-To: <34C8A2AB1EF3564CB0D64DB6AFFDD5C2173B646F@XLIVMBX35bkup.aig.com> References: <34C8A2AB1EF3564CB0D64DB6AFFDD5C2173B646F@XLIVMBX35bkup.aig.com> Message-ID: <011c01c8e69a$72d45810$0301a8c0@HAL9005> Lambert: Got it! Thank you. I'll unpack it right now and see about lacing it into this app. Best, Rocky Smolin Beach Access Software 858-259-4334 www.e-z-mrp.com www.bchacc.com -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Heenan, Lambert Sent: Tuesday, July 15, 2008 9:26 AM To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' Subject: Re: [AccessD] Saving an Email to a folder I can send you an example Access db that does just that - saves the contents of an Outlook folder to a file system folder, optionally including sub-folders. I'll send if off-list. Lambert -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Rocky Smolin at Beach Access Software Sent: Tuesday, July 15, 2008 11:19 AM To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' Subject: [AccessD] Saving an Email to a folder Dear List: I have a client whose app generates emails. They're using Outlook. That's working OK. What he wants now is to save the email which is generated in a folder. I see that I can drag and drop an email from my Outlook into a folder and it makes a.msg file. And anything you can do manually in Office you can generally do through code. I've got the path to the folder. But I don't know how to go about doing this programmatically. Does anyone know or have a code snip to do this? MMTIA, Rocky Smolin Beach Access Software 858-259-4334 www.e-z-mrp.com www.bchacc.com -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From rockysmolin at bchacc.com Tue Jul 15 12:08:55 2008 From: rockysmolin at bchacc.com (Rocky Smolin at Beach Access Software) Date: Tue, 15 Jul 2008 10:08:55 -0700 Subject: [AccessD] Saving a Record In-Reply-To: References: <00f201c8e67d$27bc9530$0301a8c0@HAL9005> Message-ID: <012d01c8e69d$76bcd580$0301a8c0@HAL9005> OK, global replace time. Rocky Smolin Beach Access Software 858-259-4334 www.e-z-mrp.com www.bchacc.com -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Charlotte Foust Sent: Tuesday, July 15, 2008 9:43 AM To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving Subject: Re: [AccessD] Saving a Record Yep, the first is a lot clearer and easier to understand! LOL The second is referring to, what?, A95 menus? It's very archaic and over time, I replaced all instances like that with the runcommand equivalents. The funny thing was, even in 2002, the wizard build acMenuVer70 code! Charlotte Foust -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Rocky Smolin at Beach Access Software Sent: Tuesday, July 15, 2008 6:18 AM To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' Subject: [AccessD] Saving a Record Dear List: Is there a difference between: DoCmd.RunCommand acCmdSaveRecord and DoCmd.DoMenuItem acFormBar, acRecordsMenu, acSaveRecord, , acMenuVer70 ? MTIA, Rocky Smolin Beach Access Software 858-259-4334 www.e-z-mrp.com www.bchacc.com -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From tinanfields at torchlake.com Tue Jul 15 12:38:19 2008 From: tinanfields at torchlake.com (Tina Norris Fields) Date: Tue, 15 Jul 2008 13:38:19 -0400 Subject: [AccessD] Saving an Email to a folder In-Reply-To: <34C8A2AB1EF3564CB0D64DB6AFFDD5C2173B646F@XLIVMBX35bkup.aig.com> References: <34C8A2AB1EF3564CB0D64DB6AFFDD5C2173B646F@XLIVMBX35bkup.aig.com> Message-ID: <487CE08B.7010206@torchlake.com> Hi Lambert, Pretty please, could I have a copy of that, too? Thank you very much. Tina Heenan, Lambert wrote: > I can send you an example Access db that does just that - saves the contents > of an Outlook folder to a file system folder, optionally including > sub-folders. > > I'll send if off-list. > > Lambert > > -----Original Message----- > From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Rocky Smolin at > Beach Access Software > Sent: Tuesday, July 15, 2008 11:19 AM > To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' > Subject: [AccessD] Saving an Email to a folder > > Dear List: > > I have a client whose app generates emails. They're using Outlook. That's > working OK. > > What he wants now is to save the email which is generated in a folder. I > see that I can drag and drop an email from my Outlook into a folder and it > makes a.msg file. And anything you can do manually in Office you can > generally do through code. I've got the path to the folder. > > But I don't know how to go about doing this programmatically. Does anyone > know or have a code snip to do this? > > MMTIA, > > > > > > > Rocky Smolin > > Beach Access Software > > 858-259-4334 > > www.e-z-mrp.com > > www.bchacc.com > > > > > > > -- > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > From edzedz at comcast.net Tue Jul 15 14:31:49 2008 From: edzedz at comcast.net (Edward S Zuris) Date: Tue, 15 Jul 2008 12:31:49 -0700 Subject: [AccessD] Access bit map images problem In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <029101c8e6b1$6dee1ae0$e0dea8c0@dudley1> Thanks. . . . I am checking the examples out. -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Gustav Brock Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 3:01 PM To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: Re: [AccessD] Access bit map images problem Hi Ed Stephen Lebans did some research on this first part: http://www.lebans.com/oletodisk.htm Could give you some ideas. /gustav >>> edzedz at comcast.net 14-07-2008 21:43 >>> Any ideas on how to tackle the problem of taking bit map images out of OLE Object field into the picture property of command button ? Thanks. Ed Zuris. . . -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From markamatte at hotmail.com Tue Jul 15 14:04:24 2008 From: markamatte at hotmail.com (Mark A Matte) Date: Tue, 15 Jul 2008 19:04:24 +0000 Subject: [AccessD] OT: Post-Relational Databases In-Reply-To: <029101c8e6b1$6dee1ae0$e0dea8c0@dudley1> References: <029101c8e6b1$6dee1ae0$e0dea8c0@dudley1> Message-ID: Hello All, Sorry for the OT...didn't know who else to ask. Someone sent me an article related to "Post-Relational Databases"...I was wondering if anyone here had anyknowledge/experience with this type of technology? Thanks, Mark A. Matte _________________________________________________________________ The i?m Talkaton. Can 30-days of conversation change the world? http://www.imtalkathon.com/?source=EML_WLH_Talkathon_ChangeWorld From Gustav at cactus.dk Tue Jul 15 15:44:17 2008 From: Gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock) Date: Tue, 15 Jul 2008 22:44:17 +0200 Subject: [AccessD] OT: Post-Relational Databases Message-ID: Hi Mark That could be Cach? from InterSystems: http://www.intersystems.com/cache/technology/fb/index.html Interesting and fascinating product but I haven't used it for any real work. It features both OO and SQL access. A fully functional non-expiring developer license is free for the download. /gustav >>> markamatte at hotmail.com 15-07-2008 21:04 >>> Hello All, Sorry for the OT...didn't know who else to ask. Someone sent me an article related to "Post-Relational Databases"...I was wondering if anyone here had anyknowledge/experience with this type of technology? Thanks, Mark A. Matte From john at winhaven.net Tue Jul 15 16:39:40 2008 From: john at winhaven.net (John Bartow) Date: Tue, 15 Jul 2008 16:39:40 -0500 Subject: [AccessD] Paging Chris Mackin Message-ID: <200807152139.m6FLdSLf022605@databaseadvisors.com> Does anyone know Chris new email address? John Bartow, President Database Advisors, Inc. Email: mailto:president at databaseadvisors.com Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From accessd at shaw.ca Mon Jul 14 16:30:39 2008 From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence) Date: Mon, 14 Jul 2008 14:30:39 -0700 Subject: [AccessD] Downgrading Vista In-Reply-To: <071420081715.19457.487B8996000937CD00004C012216566276040A079B9C020A9C019D05@comcast.net> References: <071420081715.19457.487B8996000937CD00004C012216566276040A079B9C020A9C019D05@comcast.net> Message-ID: <062DEEAA4D284FADA415BDD821A2B7E4@creativesystemdesigns.com> Karen: If the worse comes to the worse you can always switch to Ububtu Linux (easier than XP/Vista apparently) and install Wine or Parallel so you can run some of your MS apps. (The latest versions of Linux have no issues with SATA drives). Jim -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of krosenstiel at comcast.net Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 10:15 AM To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving Subject: Re: [AccessD] Downgrading Vista I do have a USB floppy. Got it when I got the laptop just for such current episodes. -- Karen Rosenstiel Seattle WA USA -------------- Original message ---------------------- From: "Edward S Zuris" > > You can buy a floppy hooked to a USB. > > I have used those in the past on Laptops > with no floppy drive. > > -----Original Message----- > From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Charlotte > Foust > Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 9:29 AM > To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving > Subject: Re: [AccessD] Downgrading Vista > > > I hope you don't really mean floppy disk, John. My laptop doesn't have > floppy drives and neither do any of the others I've seen. > > Charlotte Foust > > -----Original Message----- > From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of John Bartow > Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 9:20 AM > To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' > Subject: Re: [AccessD] Downgrading Vista > > If you have either SCSI or SATA drives you can install XP but while > doing so you must watch for the (initial blue) screen that asks you to > press F6 for additional drivers (or something to that effect). You then > need to have those drivers ready on a floppy disk. > > HTH > John B. > > -- > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > -- > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From accessd at shaw.ca Mon Jul 14 16:30:39 2008 From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence) Date: Mon, 14 Jul 2008 14:30:39 -0700 Subject: [AccessD] Downgrading Vista In-Reply-To: <071420081715.19457.487B8996000937CD00004C012216566276040A079B9C020A9C019D05@comcast.net> References: <071420081715.19457.487B8996000937CD00004C012216566276040A079B9C020A9C019D05@comcast.net> Message-ID: <062DEEAA4D284FADA415BDD821A2B7E4@creativesystemdesigns.com> Karen: If the worse comes to the worse you can always switch to Ububtu Linux (easier than XP/Vista apparently) and install Wine or Parallel so you can run some of your MS apps. (The latest versions of Linux have no issues with SATA drives). Jim -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of krosenstiel at comcast.net Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 10:15 AM To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving Subject: Re: [AccessD] Downgrading Vista I do have a USB floppy. Got it when I got the laptop just for such current episodes. -- Karen Rosenstiel Seattle WA USA -------------- Original message ---------------------- From: "Edward S Zuris" > > You can buy a floppy hooked to a USB. > > I have used those in the past on Laptops > with no floppy drive. > > -----Original Message----- > From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Charlotte > Foust > Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 9:29 AM > To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving > Subject: Re: [AccessD] Downgrading Vista > > > I hope you don't really mean floppy disk, John. My laptop doesn't have > floppy drives and neither do any of the others I've seen. > > Charlotte Foust > > -----Original Message----- > From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of John Bartow > Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 9:20 AM > To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' > Subject: Re: [AccessD] Downgrading Vista > > If you have either SCSI or SATA drives you can install XP but while > doing so you must watch for the (initial blue) screen that asks you to > press F6 for additional drivers (or something to that effect). You then > need to have those drivers ready on a floppy disk. > > HTH > John B. > > -- > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > -- > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From kp at sdsonline.net Tue Jul 15 19:04:03 2008 From: kp at sdsonline.net (Kath Pelletti) Date: Wed, 16 Jul 2008 10:04:03 +1000 Subject: [AccessD] amending code for variable form name - Syntax help References: <487CD16A.7678.2E1E270@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg> Message-ID: <008d01c8e6d7$7571d290$6401a8c0@DELLAPTOP> That's weird - posted a thank you to you and Paul last night - but I don't think it came thru. Anyway - thanks. Spot on. Kath ----- Original Message ----- From: "Stuart McLachlan" To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving" Sent: Tuesday, July 15, 2008 4:33 PM Subject: Re: [AccessD] amending code for variable form name - Syntax help > Just use frmCallingForm.Visible =True > > Since you have dimmed the variable as a Form, you don't need the > Forms!....Form bit. > > > > On 15 Jul 2008 at 14:57, Kath Pelletti wrote: > >> Need some syntax help. >> >> I need to set a form's visible property to true. It works if I explicity >> use the form name, eg. >> >> Forms!frmPersonDetails.Form.Visible = True >> >> But where I use a variable eg: >> >> Forms!frmCallingForm.Form.Visible = True >> >> it doesn;t. How do I amend the code to include the variable >> frmcallingform? The code which creates and sets the variable form name is >> shown below: >> >> Dim frmCallingForm As Form >> Set frmCallingForm = Forms("frmPersonDetails") >> >> >> ______________________________________ >> Kath Pelletti >> Software Design and Solutions Pty Ltd >> Ph: 9505-6714 >> Fax: 9505-6430 >> kp at sdsonline.net >> -- >> AccessD mailing list >> AccessD at databaseadvisors.com >> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd >> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > > -- > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > From accessd at shaw.ca Tue Jul 15 22:41:39 2008 From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence) Date: Tue, 15 Jul 2008 20:41:39 -0700 Subject: [AccessD] Downgrading Vista In-Reply-To: <200807150425.m6F4PLVC029929@databaseadvisors.com> References: <062DEEAA4D284FADA415BDD821A2B7E4@creativesystemdesigns.com> <200807150425.m6F4PLVC029929@databaseadvisors.com> Message-ID: Hi Karen: Just one small note to start; What is PCP/MySQL... is this some new toxic programming language? I sent of a note to Hans, my son-in-law about your problems with Vista and here is his response: Yep. Downgrading from Vista to XP with SATA drives is a pain in the backside. I did it myself as well for one of our work PC's. It does indeed require a floppy drive with the drivers, but fortunately I had a number of spare floppy drives lying about which I could throw in for the installation process. 'Course, if you happen to have a very fancy server like some of the ones I play with, the bios can mount a virtual floppy drive. ;) The headache doesn't end there though, as in my case, the HP I was downgrading Vista to XP on did not provide XP drivers on their support site for many of the components on the PC (motherboard, integrated sound board, etc). It meant identifying all these components manually and tracking down the drivers manually. Sigh. Going the Ubuntu route is probably wise. You can then install XP on some virtual machine, like Parallels ($$$), VMWare ($$$) or Virtual Box (Free for non-commercial use). VirtualBox is pretty good now days, so I'd recommend it for general use. You might get a few headaches trying anything fancy like mounting your iPod via USB. And you don't get 3D accelerated graphics, which VMWare can do. I was lucky to sign up for a VMWare Fusion beta test, so I got VMWare for free for my MacBook and I like it. If you are having any other problems with your new environment just send along a comment. HTH Jim -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Karen Rosenstiel Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 9:26 PM To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' Subject: Re: [AccessD] Downgrading Vista Guess what? That's exactly what I did. After the first call with that Dell idiot, I did some research. Sure enough, if you get a box with Vista Business or Ultimate pre-installed, you can downgrad to XP. So I called Dell back and told them that. This time they flat refused to help me. So I called MS. Well, credit where credit is due! After MS verified my XP cd was a legitimate retail purchase, I got a tech guy from New Delhi (I asked him) who was intelligent, efficient and helpful. Spoke English pretty well too. But basically what it came down to was some pci drivers. He apologized profusely but referred me back to Dell for assistance in disabling the drivers. So I said the hell with it and installed Ubuntu. I had a DVD with 10 full distros, but I do like Ubuntu/Kubuntu the best. It's a little cranky on my box -- no network yet -- but did a good job of picking up most of the hardware. Tomorrow I will install XAMPP, an easy installer for Apache, MySQL, PCP and Perl. Very painless. Then I can use this box to learn PCP/MySQL. I have a big project I volunteered for to redo someone else's web site -- a pretty site but gawdawful code. For right now, it's bed time. Thanks for all the support Regards, Karen Rosenstiel Seattle WA USA -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim Lawrence Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 2:31 PM To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' Subject: Re: [AccessD] Downgrading Vista Karen: If the worse comes to the worse you can always switch to Ububtu Linux (easier than XP/Vista apparently) and install Wine or Parallel so you can run some of your MS apps. (The latest versions of Linux have no issues with SATA drives). Jim -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of krosenstiel at comcast.net Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 10:15 AM To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving Subject: Re: [AccessD] Downgrading Vista I do have a USB floppy. Got it when I got the laptop just for such current episodes. -- Karen Rosenstiel Seattle WA USA -------------- Original message ---------------------- From: "Edward S Zuris" > > You can buy a floppy hooked to a USB. > > I have used those in the past on Laptops with no floppy drive. > > -----Original Message----- > From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Charlotte > Foust > Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 9:29 AM > To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving > Subject: Re: [AccessD] Downgrading Vista > > > I hope you don't really mean floppy disk, John. My laptop doesn't > have floppy drives and neither do any of the others I've seen. > > Charlotte Foust > > -----Original Message----- > From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of John Bartow > Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 9:20 AM > To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' > Subject: Re: [AccessD] Downgrading Vista > > If you have either SCSI or SATA drives you can install XP but while > doing so you must watch for the (initial blue) screen that asks you to > press F6 for additional drivers (or something to that effect). You > then need to have those drivers ready on a floppy disk. > > HTH > John B. > > -- > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > -- > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 270.4.10/1552 - Release Date: 7/14/2008 6:28 PM No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 270.4.10/1552 - Release Date: 7/14/2008 6:28 PM -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From krosenstiel at comcast.net Tue Jul 15 22:50:28 2008 From: krosenstiel at comcast.net (Karen Rosenstiel) Date: Tue, 15 Jul 2008 20:50:28 -0700 Subject: [AccessD] Downgrading Vista In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <200807160350.m6G3o4A8006112@databaseadvisors.com> Thanks Jim. After last night's frustration, tonight I am feeling pretty smart. I just installed Horny Hoptoad (or whatever the current Ubuntu version is ;-))) ) and then I installed xampp with PHP (not PCP -- I work for a hospital and probably have doctors on the brain!), MySQL and phpMyAdmin. Then I secured them and I have my test box all ready for a new web project. I am going to keep everyone's email advice because eventually I will probably want XP Pro back on this box. But I am happy with this Ubuntu set up. Boy it has gotten so much easier! Practically as easy as Windows is to install, which, for all my gripes, really IS usually an easy no-brainer to install. Ubuntu has picked my main Windows box on the network with NO tweaking of Samba. I think it picked up my network laser printer too. Hot damn! This is the best Linux install I've ever done. I am impressed. But since my knowledge of Linux is limited, I am easily impressed. Anyway....we had better close out this thread as the moderator has requested. Thanks all of you, very much. Regards, Karen Rosenstiel Seattle WA USA -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim Lawrence Sent: Tuesday, July 15, 2008 8:42 PM To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'; dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com Subject: Re: [AccessD] Downgrading Vista Hi Karen: Just one small note to start; What is PCP/MySQL... is this some new toxic programming language? I sent of a note to Hans, my son-in-law about your problems with Vista and here is his response: Yep. Downgrading from Vista to XP with SATA drives is a pain in the backside. I did it myself as well for one of our work PC's. It does indeed require a floppy drive with the drivers, but fortunately I had a number of spare floppy drives lying about which I could throw in for the installation process. 'Course, if you happen to have a very fancy server like some of the ones I play with, the bios can mount a virtual floppy drive. ;) The headache doesn't end there though, as in my case, the HP I was downgrading Vista to XP on did not provide XP drivers on their support site for many of the components on the PC (motherboard, integrated sound board, etc). It meant identifying all these components manually and tracking down the drivers manually. Sigh. Going the Ubuntu route is probably wise. You can then install XP on some virtual machine, like Parallels ($$$), VMWare ($$$) or Virtual Box (Free for non-commercial use). VirtualBox is pretty good now days, so I'd recommend it for general use. You might get a few headaches trying anything fancy like mounting your iPod via USB. And you don't get 3D accelerated graphics, which VMWare can do. I was lucky to sign up for a VMWare Fusion beta test, so I got VMWare for free for my MacBook and I like it. If you are having any other problems with your new environment just send along a comment. HTH Jim -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Karen Rosenstiel Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 9:26 PM To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' Subject: Re: [AccessD] Downgrading Vista Guess what? That's exactly what I did. After the first call with that Dell idiot, I did some research. Sure enough, if you get a box with Vista Business or Ultimate pre-installed, you can downgrad to XP. So I called Dell back and told them that. This time they flat refused to help me. So I called MS. Well, credit where credit is due! After MS verified my XP cd was a legitimate retail purchase, I got a tech guy from New Delhi (I asked him) who was intelligent, efficient and helpful. Spoke English pretty well too. But basically what it came down to was some pci drivers. He apologized profusely but referred me back to Dell for assistance in disabling the drivers. So I said the hell with it and installed Ubuntu. I had a DVD with 10 full distros, but I do like Ubuntu/Kubuntu the best. It's a little cranky on my box -- no network yet -- but did a good job of picking up most of the hardware. Tomorrow I will install XAMPP, an easy installer for Apache, MySQL, PCP and Perl. Very painless. Then I can use this box to learn PCP/MySQL. I have a big project I volunteered for to redo someone else's web site -- a pretty site but gawdawful code. For right now, it's bed time. Thanks for all the support Regards, Karen Rosenstiel Seattle WA USA -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim Lawrence Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 2:31 PM To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' Subject: Re: [AccessD] Downgrading Vista Karen: If the worse comes to the worse you can always switch to Ububtu Linux (easier than XP/Vista apparently) and install Wine or Parallel so you can run some of your MS apps. (The latest versions of Linux have no issues with SATA drives). Jim -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of krosenstiel at comcast.net Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 10:15 AM To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving Subject: Re: [AccessD] Downgrading Vista I do have a USB floppy. Got it when I got the laptop just for such current episodes. -- Karen Rosenstiel Seattle WA USA -------------- Original message ---------------------- From: "Edward S Zuris" > > You can buy a floppy hooked to a USB. > > I have used those in the past on Laptops with no floppy drive. > > -----Original Message----- > From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Charlotte > Foust > Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 9:29 AM > To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving > Subject: Re: [AccessD] Downgrading Vista > > > I hope you don't really mean floppy disk, John. 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Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 270.4.11/1554 - Release Date: 7/15/2008 6:03 PM From paul.hartland at googlemail.com Wed Jul 16 01:21:19 2008 From: paul.hartland at googlemail.com (Paul Hartland) Date: Wed, 16 Jul 2008 07:21:19 +0100 Subject: [AccessD] amending code for variable form name - Syntax help In-Reply-To: <008d01c8e6d7$7571d290$6401a8c0@DELLAPTOP> References: <487CD16A.7678.2E1E270@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg> <008d01c8e6d7$7571d290$6401a8c0@DELLAPTOP> Message-ID: <38c884770807152321w4d66e9aasb41cf8cc855b0e5a@mail.gmail.com> I saw the thank you Kath....Also while I am here thank you to Stuart, that way may work much better for me as well. Paul Hartland 2008/7/16 Kath Pelletti : > That's weird - posted a thank you to you and Paul last night - but I don't > think it came thru. > > Anyway - thanks. Spot on. > > Kath > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Stuart McLachlan" > To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving" > > Sent: Tuesday, July 15, 2008 4:33 PM > Subject: Re: [AccessD] amending code for variable form name - Syntax help > > > > Just use frmCallingForm.Visible =True > > > > Since you have dimmed the variable as a Form, you don't need the > > Forms!....Form bit. > > > > > > > > On 15 Jul 2008 at 14:57, Kath Pelletti wrote: > > > >> Need some syntax help. > >> > >> I need to set a form's visible property to true. It works if I explicity > >> use the form name, eg. > >> > >> Forms!frmPersonDetails.Form.Visible = True > >> > >> But where I use a variable eg: > >> > >> Forms!frmCallingForm.Form.Visible = True > >> > >> it doesn;t. How do I amend the code to include the variable > >> frmcallingform? The code which creates and sets the variable form name > is > >> shown below: > >> > >> Dim frmCallingForm As Form > >> Set frmCallingForm = Forms("frmPersonDetails") > >> > >> > >> ______________________________________ > >> Kath Pelletti > >> Software Design and Solutions Pty Ltd > >> Ph: 9505-6714 > >> Fax: 9505-6430 > >> kp at sdsonline.net > >> -- > >> AccessD mailing list > >> AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > >> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > >> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > > > > > -- > > AccessD mailing list > > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > > > > -- > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > -- Paul Hartland paul.hartland at googlemail.com From andy at minstersystems.co.uk Wed Jul 16 01:58:05 2008 From: andy at minstersystems.co.uk (Andy Lacey) Date: Wed, 16 Jul 2008 07:58:05 +0100 Subject: [AccessD] Downgrading Vista - Move to Tech List In-Reply-To: <200807160350.m6G3o4A8006112@databaseadvisors.com> Message-ID: <000601c8e711$4c251ca0$26a02a50@minster33c3r25> Hey guys Gary asked nicely many hours ago that this thread be moved to the AccessD Tech list where it belongs. -- Andy Lacey http://www.minstersystems.co.uk >-----Original Message----- >From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com >[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of >Karen Rosenstiel >Sent: 16 July 2008 04:50 >To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' >Subject: Re: [AccessD] Downgrading Vista > > >Thanks Jim. After last night's frustration, tonight I am >feeling pretty smart. I just installed Horny Hoptoad (or >whatever the current Ubuntu version is ;-))) ) and then I >installed xampp with PHP (not PCP -- I work for a hospital and >probably have doctors on the brain!), MySQL and phpMyAdmin. >Then I secured them and I have my test box all ready for a new >web project. > >I am going to keep everyone's email advice because eventually >I will probably want XP Pro back on this box. But I am happy >with this Ubuntu set up. Boy it has gotten so much easier! >Practically as easy as Windows is to install, which, for all >my gripes, really IS usually an easy no-brainer to install. >Ubuntu has picked my main Windows box on the network with NO >tweaking of Samba. I think it picked up my network laser >printer too. Hot damn! > >This is the best Linux install I've ever done. I am impressed. >But since my knowledge of Linux is limited, I am easily impressed. > >Anyway....we had better close out this thread as the >moderator has requested. > >Thanks all of you, very much. > > >Regards, > >Karen Rosenstiel >Seattle WA USA > >-----Original Message----- >From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com >[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim Lawrence >Sent: Tuesday, July 15, 2008 8:42 PM >To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'; >dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com >Subject: Re: [AccessD] Downgrading Vista > >Hi Karen: > >Just one small note to start; What is PCP/MySQL... is this >some new toxic programming language? > >I sent of a note to Hans, my son-in-law about your problems >with Vista and here is his response: > > >Yep. Downgrading from Vista to XP with SATA drives is a pain >in the backside. I did it myself as well for one of our work >PC's. It does indeed require a floppy drive with the drivers, >but fortunately I had a number of spare floppy drives lying >about which I could throw in for the installation process. >'Course, if you happen to have a very fancy server like some >of the ones I play with, the bios can mount a virtual floppy >drive. ;) The headache doesn't end there though, as in my >case, the HP I was downgrading Vista to XP on did not provide >XP drivers on their support site for many of the components on >the PC (motherboard, integrated sound board, etc). It meant >identifying all these components manually and tracking down >the drivers manually. Sigh. > >Going the Ubuntu route is probably wise. You can then install >XP on some virtual machine, like Parallels ($$$), VMWare ($$$) >or Virtual Box (Free for non-commercial use). VirtualBox is >pretty good now days, so I'd recommend it for general use. You >might get a few headaches trying anything fancy like mounting >your iPod via USB. And you don't get 3D accelerated graphics, >which VMWare can do. I was lucky to sign up for a VMWare >Fusion beta test, so I got VMWare for free for my MacBook and >I like it. > >If you are having any other problems with your new environment >just send along a comment. > >HTH >Jim > >-----Original Message----- >From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com >[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of >Karen Rosenstiel >Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 9:26 PM >To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' >Subject: Re: [AccessD] Downgrading Vista > >Guess what? That's exactly what I did. > >After the first call with that Dell idiot, I did some >research. Sure enough, if you get a box with Vista Business or >Ultimate pre-installed, you can downgrad to XP. So I called >Dell back and told them that. This time they flat refused to help me. > >So I called MS. Well, credit where credit is due! After MS >verified my XP cd was a legitimate retail purchase, I got a >tech guy from New Delhi (I asked >him) who was intelligent, efficient and helpful. Spoke English >pretty well too. But basically what it came down to was some >pci drivers. He apologized profusely but referred me back to >Dell for assistance in disabling the drivers. > >So I said the hell with it and installed Ubuntu. I had a DVD >with 10 full distros, but I do like Ubuntu/Kubuntu the best. >It's a little cranky on my box -- no network yet -- but did a >good job of picking up most of the hardware. Tomorrow I will >install XAMPP, an easy installer for Apache, MySQL, PCP and >Perl. Very painless. Then I can use this box to learn >PCP/MySQL. I have a big project I volunteered for to redo >someone else's web site -- a pretty site but gawdawful code. > >For right now, it's bed time. > >Thanks for all the support > >Regards, > >Karen Rosenstiel >Seattle WA USA > >-----Original Message----- >From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com >[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim Lawrence >Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 2:31 PM >To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' >Subject: Re: [AccessD] Downgrading Vista > >Karen: > >If the worse comes to the worse you can always switch to >Ububtu Linux (easier than XP/Vista apparently) and install >Wine or Parallel so you can run some of your MS apps. (The >latest versions of Linux have no issues with SATA drives). > >Jim > >-----Original Message----- >From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com >[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of >krosenstiel at comcast.net >Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 10:15 AM >To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving >Subject: Re: [AccessD] Downgrading Vista > >I do have a USB floppy. Got it when I got the laptop just for >such current episodes. > >-- >Karen Rosenstiel >Seattle WA USA > > -------------- Original message ---------------------- >From: "Edward S Zuris" >> >> You can buy a floppy hooked to a USB. >> >> I have used those in the past on Laptops with no floppy drive. >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com >> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Charlotte >> Foust >> Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 9:29 AM >> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving >> Subject: Re: [AccessD] Downgrading Vista >> >> >> I hope you don't really mean floppy disk, John. My laptop doesn't >> have floppy drives and neither do any of the others I've seen. >> >> Charlotte Foust >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com >> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of >John Bartow >> Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 9:20 AM >> To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' >> Subject: Re: [AccessD] Downgrading Vista >> >> If you have either SCSI or SATA drives you can install XP but while >> doing so you must watch for the (initial blue) screen that >asks you to >> press F6 for additional drivers (or something to that effect). You >> then need to have those drivers ready on a floppy disk. >> >> HTH >> John B. >> >> -- >> AccessD mailing list >> AccessD at databaseadvisors.com >> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd >> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com >> >> -- >> AccessD mailing list >> AccessD at databaseadvisors.com >> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd >> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > > >-- >AccessD mailing list >AccessD at databaseadvisors.com >http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd >Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > >No virus found in this incoming message. >Checked by AVG. >Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 270.4.10/1552 - Release >Date: 7/14/2008 6:28 PM > > >No virus found in this outgoing message. >Checked by AVG. >Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 270.4.10/1552 - Release >Date: 7/14/2008 6:28 PM > > >-- >AccessD mailing list >AccessD at databaseadvisors.com >http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd >Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > >-- >AccessD mailing list >AccessD at databaseadvisors.com >http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd >Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > >No virus found in this incoming message. >Checked by AVG. >Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 270.4.11/1554 - Release >Date: 7/15/2008 6:03 PM > > >No virus found in this outgoing message. >Checked by AVG. >Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 270.4.11/1554 - Release >Date: 7/15/2008 6:03 PM > > >-- >AccessD mailing list >AccessD at databaseadvisors.com >http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd >Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > From jedi at charm.net Wed Jul 16 11:02:39 2008 From: jedi at charm.net (Michael Bahr) Date: Wed, 16 Jul 2008 12:02:39 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [AccessD] Downgrading Vista In-Reply-To: References: <062DEEAA4D284FADA415BDD821A2B7E4@creativesystemdesigns.com> <200807150425.m6F4PLVC029929@databaseadvisors.com> Message-ID: <20514.198.118.127.183.1216224159.squirrel@mail.expedient.net> > Hi Karen: > > Just one small note to start; What is PCP/MySQL... is this some new toxic > programming language? > > I sent of a note to Hans, my son-in-law about your problems with Vista and > here is his response: > > > Yep. Downgrading from Vista to XP with SATA drives is a pain in the > backside. I did it myself as well for one of our work PC's. It does indeed As Drew already mentioned that all is needed is going into the bios and disabling ACHI mode. Vista has these SATA drivers but XP does not. This is why you required to install the drivers from the "floppy" with it on. Once you disable ACHI you should be able install XP. > require a floppy drive with the drivers, but fortunately I had a number of > spare floppy drives lying about which I could throw in for the > installation > process. 'Course, if you happen to have a very fancy server like some of > the > ones I play with, the bios can mount a virtual floppy drive. ;) The > headache > doesn't end there though, as in my case, the HP I was downgrading Vista to > XP on did not provide XP drivers on their support site for many of the > components on the PC (motherboard, integrated sound board, etc). It meant > identifying all these components manually and tracking down the drivers > manually. Sigh. > > Going the Ubuntu route is probably wise. You can then install XP on some > virtual machine, like Parallels ($$$), VMWare ($$$) or Virtual Box (Free > for > non-commercial use). VirtualBox is pretty good now days, so I'd recommend > it > for general use. You might get a few headaches trying anything fancy like > mounting your iPod via USB. And you don't get 3D accelerated graphics, > which > VMWare can do. I was lucky to sign up for a VMWare Fusion beta test, so I > got VMWare for free for my MacBook and I like it. > > > If you are having any other problems with your new environment just send > along a comment. > > HTH > Jim > > -----Original Message----- > From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Karen > Rosenstiel > Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 9:26 PM > To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' > Subject: Re: [AccessD] Downgrading Vista > > Guess what? That's exactly what I did. > > After the first call with that Dell idiot, I did some research. Sure > enough, > if you get a box with Vista Business or Ultimate pre-installed, you can > downgrad to XP. So I called Dell back and told them that. This time they > flat refused to help me. > > So I called MS. Well, credit where credit is due! After MS verified my XP > cd > was a legitimate retail purchase, I got a tech guy from New Delhi (I asked > him) who was intelligent, efficient and helpful. Spoke English pretty well > too. But basically what it came down to was some pci drivers. He > apologized > profusely but referred me back to Dell for assistance in disabling the > drivers. > > So I said the hell with it and installed Ubuntu. I had a DVD with 10 full > distros, but I do like Ubuntu/Kubuntu the best. It's a little cranky on my > box -- no network yet -- but did a good job of picking up most of the > hardware. Tomorrow I will install XAMPP, an easy installer for Apache, > MySQL, PCP and Perl. Very painless. Then I can use this box to learn > PCP/MySQL. I have a big project I volunteered for to redo someone else's > web > site -- a pretty site but gawdawful code. > > For right now, it's bed time. > > Thanks for all the support > > Regards, > > Karen Rosenstiel > Seattle WA USA > > -----Original Message----- > From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim Lawrence > Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 2:31 PM > To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' > Subject: Re: [AccessD] Downgrading Vista > > Karen: > > If the worse comes to the worse you can always switch to Ububtu Linux > (easier than XP/Vista apparently) and install Wine or Parallel so you can > run some of your MS apps. (The latest versions of Linux have no issues > with > SATA drives). > > Jim > > -----Original Message----- > From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of > krosenstiel at comcast.net > Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 10:15 AM > To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving > Subject: Re: [AccessD] Downgrading Vista > > I do have a USB floppy. Got it when I got the laptop just for such current > episodes. > > -- > Karen Rosenstiel > Seattle WA USA > > -------------- Original message ---------------------- > From: "Edward S Zuris" >> >> You can buy a floppy hooked to a USB. >> >> I have used those in the past on Laptops with no floppy drive. >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com >> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Charlotte >> Foust >> Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 9:29 AM >> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving >> Subject: Re: [AccessD] Downgrading Vista >> >> >> I hope you don't really mean floppy disk, John. My laptop doesn't >> have floppy drives and neither do any of the others I've seen. >> >> Charlotte Foust >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com >> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of John Bartow >> Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 9:20 AM >> To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' >> Subject: Re: [AccessD] Downgrading Vista >> >> If you have either SCSI or SATA drives you can install XP but while >> doing so you must watch for the (initial blue) screen that asks you to >> press F6 for additional drivers (or something to that effect). You >> then need to have those drivers ready on a floppy disk. >> >> HTH >> John B. >> >> -- >> AccessD mailing list >> AccessD at databaseadvisors.com >> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd >> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com >> >> -- >> AccessD mailing list >> AccessD at databaseadvisors.com >> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd >> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > > > -- > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG. > Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 270.4.10/1552 - Release Date: 7/14/2008 > 6:28 PM > > > No virus found in this outgoing message. > Checked by AVG. > Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 270.4.10/1552 - Release Date: 7/14/2008 > 6:28 PM > > > -- > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > -- > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > From fuller.artful at gmail.com Wed Jul 16 16:36:47 2008 From: fuller.artful at gmail.com (Arthur Fuller) Date: Wed, 16 Jul 2008 18:36:47 -0300 Subject: [AccessD] Finders problem Message-ID: <29f585dd0807161436k3bedbf4ehd56a8c8b18c9ec46@mail.gmail.com> I have two controls on a form that I call "Finders". They are straightforward dropdowns listing the Site numbers and Site Names. The problem I'm having is that once I execute the Filter By Form code, the Finders still list the entire recordset. Suppose that the original recordset has 50 rows, and you then execute FBF, reducing the set to 10 rows. How can I refresh the rowsource of the Finders to exclude everything but the 10 rows isolated by the filter? I'm using code by Stan Getz to do the filter operation and it works great. No issues there. The only question is how to refresh my Finders after an FBF operation. They start out as "SELECT SiteID, SiteName FROM Sites" and so on. So now the user imposes a filter, and the result is that the filter property now says "(([SitemCity] LIKE "Toronto*") AND ([SiteUTMnorth] = 0))". So do I just change the rowsource property of the Finders to concatenate the filter to the previous rowsource? And then when the user kills the filter, change the rowsources back to their original values (I could store that in their Tag properties and then just grab it back from there). I hope this explanation was clear enough to give you the picture. TIA for any advice. Arthur From rockysmolin at bchacc.com Wed Jul 16 16:56:07 2008 From: rockysmolin at bchacc.com (Rocky Smolin at Beach Access Software) Date: Wed, 16 Jul 2008 14:56:07 -0700 Subject: [AccessD] Finders problem In-Reply-To: <29f585dd0807161436k3bedbf4ehd56a8c8b18c9ec46@mail.gmail.com> References: <29f585dd0807161436k3bedbf4ehd56a8c8b18c9ec46@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <00b101c8e78e$c05cf930$0301a8c0@HAL9005> "So do I just change the rowsource property of the Finders to concatenate the filter to the previous rowsource? And then when the user kills the filter, change the rowsources back to their original values" Sounds like the right thing to do. Rocky Smolin Beach Access Software 858-259-4334 www.e-z-mrp.com www.bchacc.com -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Arthur Fuller Sent: Wednesday, July 16, 2008 2:37 PM To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving Subject: [AccessD] Finders problem I have two controls on a form that I call "Finders". They are straightforward dropdowns listing the Site numbers and Site Names. The problem I'm having is that once I execute the Filter By Form code, the Finders still list the entire recordset. Suppose that the original recordset has 50 rows, and you then execute FBF, reducing the set to 10 rows. How can I refresh the rowsource of the Finders to exclude everything but the 10 rows isolated by the filter? I'm using code by Stan Getz to do the filter operation and it works great. No issues there. The only question is how to refresh my Finders after an FBF operation. They start out as "SELECT SiteID, SiteName FROM Sites" and so on. So now the user imposes a filter, and the result is that the filter property now says "(([SitemCity] LIKE "Toronto*") AND ([SiteUTMnorth] = 0))". So do I just change the rowsource property of the Finders to concatenate the filter to the previous rowsource? And then when the user kills the filter, change the rowsources back to their original values (I could store that in their Tag properties and then just grab it back from there). I hope this explanation was clear enough to give you the picture. TIA for any advice. Arthur -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From stuart at lexacorp.com.pg Wed Jul 16 17:09:58 2008 From: stuart at lexacorp.com.pg (Stuart McLachlan) Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2008 08:09:58 +1000 Subject: [AccessD] Finders problem In-Reply-To: <29f585dd0807161436k3bedbf4ehd56a8c8b18c9ec46@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <487EFE56.31118.B615E15@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg> I think you've answered your own question. That's pretty much how I would do it. A couple of wrinkles: I wouldn't save the original in the Tag, (gets a bit tricky with two lists) I'd use a couple of variables that are intialised when the form opens. You will need to parse me.Filter to get the two appropriate filters for the combos. WHne the QBF is applied it would be something like (aircode): strFilter = left$(me.filter, instr(me.filter," AND ")) & ")" SiteName.RowSource = strSiteNameRowSource & " WHERE " & strFilter SiteName.requery strFilter = "(" & mid$(me.filter, instr(me.filter," AND ") + 5 ) SiteNum.ROwSource = strSiteNumRowSource & " WHERE " & strFilter SiteNum.requery (Note the extra braces at the start end of the first part and the start of the second part) :-0 -- Stuart On 16 Jul 2008 at 18:36, Arthur Fuller wrote: > I have two controls on a form that I call "Finders". They are > straightforward dropdowns listing the Site numbers and Site Names. The > problem I'm having is that once I execute the Filter By Form code, the > Finders still list the entire recordset. Suppose that the original recordset > has 50 rows, and you then execute FBF, reducing the set to 10 rows. How can > I refresh the rowsource of the Finders to exclude everything but the 10 rows > isolated by the filter? > > I'm using code by Stan Getz to do the filter operation and it works great. > No issues there. The only question is how to refresh my Finders after an FBF > operation. They start out as "SELECT SiteID, SiteName FROM Sites" and so on. > > > So now the user imposes a filter, and the result is that the filter property > now says "(([SitemCity] LIKE "Toronto*") AND ([SiteUTMnorth] = 0))". So do I > just change the rowsource property of the Finders to concatenate the filter > to the previous rowsource? And then when the user kills the filter, change > the rowsources back to their original values (I could store that in their > Tag properties and then just grab it back from there). > > I hope this explanation was clear enough to give you the picture. > > TIA for any advice. > Arthur > -- > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From fuller.artful at gmail.com Wed Jul 16 17:14:42 2008 From: fuller.artful at gmail.com (Arthur Fuller) Date: Wed, 16 Jul 2008 19:14:42 -0300 Subject: [AccessD] Finders problem In-Reply-To: <487EFE56.31118.B615E15@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg> References: <29f585dd0807161436k3bedbf4ehd56a8c8b18c9ec46@mail.gmail.com> <487EFE56.31118.B615E15@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg> Message-ID: <29f585dd0807161514o18145f48q474fc56eaed35526@mail.gmail.com> Thanks. I'll try that right now. Arthur On Wed, Jul 16, 2008 at 7:09 PM, Stuart McLachlan wrote: > I think you've answered your own question. > That's pretty much how I would do it. > > A couple of wrinkles: > I wouldn't save the original in the Tag, (gets a bit tricky with two > lists) I'd use a couple of > variables that are intialised when the form opens. > > You will need to parse me.Filter to get the two appropriate filters for the > combos. > > WHne the QBF is applied it would be something like (aircode): > > strFilter = left$(me.filter, instr(me.filter," AND ")) & ")" > SiteName.RowSource = strSiteNameRowSource & " WHERE " & strFilter > SiteName.requery > strFilter = "(" & mid$(me.filter, instr(me.filter," AND ") + 5 ) > SiteNum.ROwSource = strSiteNumRowSource & " WHERE " & strFilter > SiteNum.requery > > (Note the extra braces at the start end of the first part and the start of > the second part) :-0 > > -- > Stuart > > > From ab-mi at post3.tele.dk Wed Jul 16 19:07:09 2008 From: ab-mi at post3.tele.dk (Asger Blond) Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2008 02:07:09 +0200 Subject: [AccessD] Finders problem In-Reply-To: <29f585dd0807161436k3bedbf4ehd56a8c8b18c9ec46@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <000001c8e7a1$0e8e0b00$2101a8c0@AB> Arthur, 1. Have the rowsource for your dropdown select all the columns of the form's recordsource (eventually set column width to 0 for columns not to be displayed). 2. On the form's ApplyFilter event: Private Sub Form_ApplyFilter(Cancel As Integer, ApplyType As Integer) If Me.Filter <> "" Then cboFinders.RowSource = "SELECT * FROM " & _ Me.RecordSource & " WHERE " & Me.Filter Else cboFinders.RowSource = Me.RecordSource End If End Sub HTH Asger -----Oprindelig meddelelse----- Fra: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] P? vegne af Arthur Fuller Sendt: 16. juli 2008 23:37 Til: Access Developers discussion and problem solving Emne: [AccessD] Finders problem I have two controls on a form that I call "Finders". They are straightforward dropdowns listing the Site numbers and Site Names. The problem I'm having is that once I execute the Filter By Form code, the Finders still list the entire recordset. Suppose that the original recordset has 50 rows, and you then execute FBF, reducing the set to 10 rows. How can I refresh the rowsource of the Finders to exclude everything but the 10 rows isolated by the filter? I'm using code by Stan Getz to do the filter operation and it works great. No issues there. The only question is how to refresh my Finders after an FBF operation. They start out as "SELECT SiteID, SiteName FROM Sites" and so on. So now the user imposes a filter, and the result is that the filter property now says "(([SitemCity] LIKE "Toronto*") AND ([SiteUTMnorth] = 0))". So do I just change the rowsource property of the Finders to concatenate the filter to the previous rowsource? And then when the user kills the filter, change the rowsources back to their original values (I could store that in their Tag properties and then just grab it back from there). I hope this explanation was clear enough to give you the picture. TIA for any advice. Arthur -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From fuller.artful at gmail.com Wed Jul 16 21:03:20 2008 From: fuller.artful at gmail.com (Arthur Fuller) Date: Wed, 16 Jul 2008 23:03:20 -0300 Subject: [AccessD] Finders problem In-Reply-To: <000001c8e7a1$0e8e0b00$2101a8c0@AB> References: <29f585dd0807161436k3bedbf4ehd56a8c8b18c9ec46@mail.gmail.com> <000001c8e7a1$0e8e0b00$2101a8c0@AB> Message-ID: <29f585dd0807161903l7df7f2efy6ec9951572a1d5e4@mail.gmail.com> Thanks Asger. Will try that right now. A. On Wed, Jul 16, 2008 at 9:07 PM, Asger Blond wrote: > Arthur, > > 1. Have the rowsource for your dropdown select all the columns of the > form's > recordsource (eventually set column width to 0 for columns not to be > displayed). > 2. On the form's ApplyFilter event: > > Private Sub Form_ApplyFilter(Cancel As Integer, ApplyType As Integer) > If Me.Filter <> "" Then > cboFinders.RowSource = "SELECT * FROM " & _ > Me.RecordSource & " WHERE " & Me.Filter > Else > cboFinders.RowSource = Me.RecordSource > End If > End Sub > > HTH > Asger > From newsgrps at dalyn.co.nz Thu Jul 17 00:44:12 2008 From: newsgrps at dalyn.co.nz (David Emerson) Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2008 17:44:12 +1200 Subject: [AccessD] Recovering Access 97 Users and Passwords Message-ID: <20080717054349.ZTGS7588.mta03.xtra.co.nz@Dalyn.dalyn.co.nz> A client has an old Access 97 database and they don't know the user or password for it. Does anyone know any good/free utilities that will enable us to access the data in the tables? Regards David Emerson Dalyn Software Ltd Wellington, New Zealand From stuart at lexacorp.com.pg Thu Jul 17 01:03:13 2008 From: stuart at lexacorp.com.pg (Stuart McLachlan) Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2008 16:03:13 +1000 Subject: [AccessD] Recovering Access 97 Users and Passwords In-Reply-To: <20080717054349.ZTGS7588.mta03.xtra.co.nz@Dalyn.dalyn.co.nz> Message-ID: <487F6D41.27785.D12AC5A@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg> Shamil has the answer. See http://smsconsulting.spb.ru/shamil_s/topics/clracc8p.htm On 17 Jul 2008 at 17:44, David Emerson wrote: > A client has an old Access 97 database and they don't know the user > or password for it. Does anyone know any good/free utilities that > will enable us to access the data in the tables? From newsgrps at dalyn.co.nz Thu Jul 17 02:07:17 2008 From: newsgrps at dalyn.co.nz (David Emerson) Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2008 19:07:17 +1200 Subject: [AccessD] Recovering Access 97 Users and Passwords In-Reply-To: <487F6D41.27785.D12AC5A@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg> References: <20080717054349.ZTGS7588.mta03.xtra.co.nz@Dalyn.dalyn.co.nz> <487F6D41.27785.D12AC5A@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg> Message-ID: <20080717071337.UAFS27627.mta06.xtra.co.nz@Dalyn.dalyn.co.nz> Stuart, The database doesn't have a password, it is the username and login in the MDW file that we need to find. David At 17/07/2008, you wrote: >Shamil has the answer. > >See > >http://smsconsulting.spb.ru/shamil_s/topics/clracc8p.htm > > >On 17 Jul 2008 at 17:44, David Emerson wrote: > > > A client has an old Access 97 database and they don't know the user > > or password for it. Does anyone know any good/free utilities that > > will enable us to access the data in the tables? > > >-- >AccessD mailing list >AccessD at databaseadvisors.com >http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd >Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From miscellany at mvps.org Thu Jul 17 04:00:19 2008 From: miscellany at mvps.org (Steve Schapel) Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2008 21:00:19 +1200 Subject: [AccessD] Report printed or previewed Message-ID: <487F0A23.10901@mvps.org> Does anyone know of a way to programmatically determine whether a report is being previewed or printed? Preferably for the report itself to be "serlf-aware" :-) i.e. on the report's Open or Load event some code to run conditional on whether it is being printed or opened in print preview? Regards Steve From jimdettman at verizon.net Thu Jul 17 06:46:27 2008 From: jimdettman at verizon.net (Jim Dettman) Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2008 07:46:27 -0400 Subject: [AccessD] Recovering Access 97 Users and Passwords In-Reply-To: <20080717054349.ZTGS7588.mta03.xtra.co.nz@Dalyn.dalyn.co.nz> References: <20080717054349.ZTGS7588.mta03.xtra.co.nz@Dalyn.dalyn.co.nz> Message-ID: <008001c8e802$bf92d9b0$8abea8c0@XPS> Is it possible to e-mail the database? I believe I still have some tools laying around. Also, I am assuming that this is 100% legit? They own the database? Jim. -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of David Emerson Sent: Thursday, July 17, 2008 1:44 AM To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: [AccessD] Recovering Access 97 Users and Passwords A client has an old Access 97 database and they don't know the user or password for it. Does anyone know any good/free utilities that will enable us to access the data in the tables? Regards David Emerson Dalyn Software Ltd Wellington, New Zealand -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From JHewson at nciinc.com Thu Jul 17 07:26:57 2008 From: JHewson at nciinc.com (Hewson, Jim ) Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2008 07:26:57 -0500 Subject: [AccessD] Finders problem In-Reply-To: <29f585dd0807161903l7df7f2efy6ec9951572a1d5e4@mail.gmail.com> References: <29f585dd0807161436k3bedbf4ehd56a8c8b18c9ec46@mail.gmail.com><000001c8e7a1$0e8e0b00$2101a8c0@AB> <29f585dd0807161903l7df7f2efy6ec9951572a1d5e4@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <7E02B06E41E5404589EDDDA2BAA1C5A82C8CF8@sanex101.nciinc.com> I use a saved query for the row source of a drop down or list box. Then in the criteria of the query I use a like statement for some control on the form. After the control has been changed, I do a refresh of the form. This works using groups, drop downs, lists or just a radial button. I also use a double-click to clear the first control and reset the drop down or list box to show all records. I stay away from the ApplyFilter command. In my experience it doesn't work as well. Jim jhewson at nciinc.com -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Arthur Fuller Sent: Wednesday, July 16, 2008 9:03 PM To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving Subject: Re: [AccessD] Finders problem Thanks Asger. Will try that right now. A. On Wed, Jul 16, 2008 at 9:07 PM, Asger Blond wrote: > Arthur, > > 1. Have the rowsource for your dropdown select all the columns of the > form's > recordsource (eventually set column width to 0 for columns not to be > displayed). > 2. On the form's ApplyFilter event: > > Private Sub Form_ApplyFilter(Cancel As Integer, ApplyType As Integer) > If Me.Filter <> "" Then > cboFinders.RowSource = "SELECT * FROM " & _ > Me.RecordSource & " WHERE " & Me.Filter > Else > cboFinders.RowSource = Me.RecordSource > End If > End Sub > > HTH > Asger > -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com ################################################################################ This email transmission contains information from NCI Information Systems, Inc. that may be considered privileged or confidential and is intended solely for the named recipient. If you have received this message in error, please contact the sender immediately and be aware that the use, copying or dissemination of this information is prohibited. ################################################################################ From fuller.artful at gmail.com Thu Jul 17 08:31:26 2008 From: fuller.artful at gmail.com (Arthur Fuller) Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2008 10:31:26 -0300 Subject: [AccessD] DoCmd.OpenForm question Message-ID: <29f585dd0807170631k2ce66b67y54d7963f543ef3a2@mail.gmail.com> If a form is already open and you issue a DoCmd.OpenForm command mentioning the same forrm but with new arguments, exactly what happens? It appears to me that the form doesn't close and re-open but the new arguments (in this case WhereCondition) seem to get applied. How does this work? TIA, Arthur From ab-mi at post3.tele.dk Thu Jul 17 09:11:27 2008 From: ab-mi at post3.tele.dk (Asger Blond) Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2008 16:11:27 +0200 Subject: [AccessD] DoCmd.OpenForm question In-Reply-To: <29f585dd0807170631k2ce66b67y54d7963f543ef3a2@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <000101c8e817$00c4abc0$2101a8c0@AB> I think a form is to be considered as a class, and opening a form as instantiating that class - then opening the form again with different arguments just makes a new instance separate from the existing one. As I understand it the modules behind forms are actually class-modules. Asger -----Oprindelig meddelelse----- Fra: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] P? vegne af Arthur Fuller Sendt: 17. juli 2008 15:31 Til: Access Developers discussion and problem solving Emne: [AccessD] DoCmd.OpenForm question If a form is already open and you issue a DoCmd.OpenForm command mentioning the same forrm but with new arguments, exactly what happens? It appears to me that the form doesn't close and re-open but the new arguments (in this case WhereCondition) seem to get applied. How does this work? TIA, Arthur -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From markamatte at hotmail.com Thu Jul 17 10:39:29 2008 From: markamatte at hotmail.com (Mark A Matte) Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2008 15:39:29 +0000 Subject: [AccessD] OT Kinda: New Computer In-Reply-To: <000101c8e817$00c4abc0$2101a8c0@AB> References: <29f585dd0807170631k2ce66b67y54d7963f543ef3a2@mail.gmail.com> <000101c8e817$00c4abc0$2101a8c0@AB> Message-ID: Hello All, I'm getting ready to shop for a new computer. I'm thinking laptop. I've never owned a Mac...but a number of people are trying to talk me into it. I still wan't to do some Access work. I hear people talking about VM...and I've seen some dual boot machines. I'm kinda nervous about trying to run MS Access on a Mac...I just don't know enough? Any thoughts/advice/experience? Also, I think the ONLY reasons my friends are suggesting the Mac is for my photography hobby(even though I rarely edit the photos)...anyway... Anything is appreciated. Thanks, Mark A. Matte _________________________________________________________________ Time for vacation? WIN what you need- enter now! http://www.gowindowslive.com/summergiveaway/?ocid=tag_jlyhm From Lambert.Heenan at AIG.com Thu Jul 17 10:45:06 2008 From: Lambert.Heenan at AIG.com (Heenan, Lambert) Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2008 11:45:06 -0400 Subject: [AccessD] OT Kinda: New Computer Message-ID: <34C8A2AB1EF3564CB0D64DB6AFFDD5C2173B6BFA@XLIVMBX35bkup.aig.com> Well if the *only* reason they want you to go Mac is for photography editing then they really need to take the blinkers off, and discard their Mac robes. Wake up Mac zealots, there's no end of high quality photo editing software that runs on Windows, including, but by no means limited to, Photoshop CS3. Lambert -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Mark A Matte Sent: Thursday, July 17, 2008 11:39 AM To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving Subject: [AccessD] OT Kinda: New Computer Hello All, I'm getting ready to shop for a new computer. I'm thinking laptop. I've never owned a Mac...but a number of people are trying to talk me into it. I still wan't to do some Access work. I hear people talking about VM...and I've seen some dual boot machines. I'm kinda nervous about trying to run MS Access on a Mac...I just don't know enough? Any thoughts/advice/experience? Also, I think the ONLY reasons my friends are suggesting the Mac is for my photography hobby(even though I rarely edit the photos)...anyway... Anything is appreciated. Thanks, Mark A. Matte _________________________________________________________________ Time for vacation? WIN what you need- enter now! http://www.gowindowslive.com/summergiveaway/?ocid=tag_jlyhm -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From garykjos at gmail.com Thu Jul 17 11:07:57 2008 From: garykjos at gmail.com (Gary Kjos) Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2008 11:07:57 -0500 Subject: [AccessD] OT Kinda: New Computer In-Reply-To: References: <29f585dd0807170631k2ce66b67y54d7963f543ef3a2@mail.gmail.com> <000101c8e817$00c4abc0$2101a8c0@AB> Message-ID: Hi Mark, For future reference, this kind of question should really go to the Tech List. It's not OT there ;-) If you're not a member of that list it's easy to join. http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech I have several "Mac's are the way to go" friends. I mostly just smile and nod my head when they go into their Windows S*cks rants. I am just not ready to relearn everything. My experience with ITUNES on Windows tells me that I miss the consistent menu or interface structure that regular windows applications adhere to for the most part. Other than Itunes of course. Having to figure out that the BURN A CD icon is down in the LOWER RIGHT CORNER instead of up on the drop down menu where 80% of the other functionality is kind of ticks me off every time I use it. I use multiple systems both at home and at work and even though they have various versions ov Windows and Office, the interfaces are very similar so I can switch from on to another without really having to rethink or relearn anything when I switch from one to another. I'm not anti-Mac by any means and wouldn't mind bringing one into my flock of systems at some point, but I wouldn't be doing it with a system I am intending to use as my primary system. Gary Kjos MODERATOR AccessD On 7/17/08, Mark A Matte wrote: > > Hello All, > > I'm getting ready to shop for a new computer. I'm thinking laptop. I've never owned a Mac...but a number of people are trying to talk me into it. I still wan't to do some Access work. I hear people talking about VM...and I've seen some dual boot machines. I'm kinda nervous about trying to run MS Access on a Mac...I just don't know enough? > > Any thoughts/advice/experience? > > Also, I think the ONLY reasons my friends are suggesting the Mac is for my photography hobby(even though I rarely edit the photos)...anyway... > > Anything is appreciated. > > Thanks, > > Mark A. Matte -- Gary Kjos garykjos at gmail.com From rockysmolin at bchacc.com Thu Jul 17 11:14:46 2008 From: rockysmolin at bchacc.com (Rocky Smolin at Beach Access Software) Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2008 09:14:46 -0700 Subject: [AccessD] EuroConvert Message-ID: <002501c8e828$3af66020$0301a8c0@HAL9005> Dear List: I came across this property accidentally today: Application.EuroConvert Has anyone used it? Where does it get the conversion rate from? It wasn't clear from the Help. MTIA Rocky Smolin Beach Access Software 858-259-4334 www.e-z-mrp.com www.bchacc.com From Gustav at cactus.dk Thu Jul 17 11:24:43 2008 From: Gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock) Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2008 18:24:43 +0200 Subject: [AccessD] EuroConvert Message-ID: Hi Rocky It hasn't any use anymore. It was for conversion between Euro and the old European currencies when these were locked in relation to the Euro in the transition time from the introduction date of the Euro until the Euro was the only valid currency in those countries. http://databases.about.com/od/accessfunctionlibrary/a/euroconvert.htm /gustav >>> rockysmolin at bchacc.com 17-07-2008 18:14 >>> Dear List: I came across this property accidentally today: Application.EuroConvert Has anyone used it? Where does it get the conversion rate from? It wasn't clear from the Help. MTIA Rocky Smolin Beach Access Software 858-259-4334 www.e-z-mrp.com www.bchacc.com From rockysmolin at bchacc.com Thu Jul 17 11:48:45 2008 From: rockysmolin at bchacc.com (Rocky Smolin at Beach Access Software) Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2008 09:48:45 -0700 Subject: [AccessD] EuroConvert In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <003001c8e82c$fa70ca40$0301a8c0@HAL9005> Aha. Well I can see why it's in 2003. Haven't looked in 2007. Rocky Smolin Beach Access Software 858-259-4334 www.e-z-mrp.com www.bchacc.com -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gustav Brock Sent: Thursday, July 17, 2008 9:25 AM To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: Re: [AccessD] EuroConvert Hi Rocky It hasn't any use anymore. It was for conversion between Euro and the old European currencies when these were locked in relation to the Euro in the transition time from the introduction date of the Euro until the Euro was the only valid currency in those countries. http://databases.about.com/od/accessfunctionlibrary/a/euroconvert.htm /gustav >>> rockysmolin at bchacc.com 17-07-2008 18:14 >>> Dear List: I came across this property accidentally today: Application.EuroConvert Has anyone used it? Where does it get the conversion rate from? It wasn't clear from the Help. MTIA Rocky Smolin Beach Access Software 858-259-4334 www.e-z-mrp.com www.bchacc.com -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From markamatte at hotmail.com Thu Jul 17 11:53:32 2008 From: markamatte at hotmail.com (Mark A Matte) Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2008 16:53:32 +0000 Subject: [AccessD] OT Kinda: New Computer In-Reply-To: References: <29f585dd0807170631k2ce66b67y54d7963f543ef3a2@mail.gmail.com> <000101c8e817$00c4abc0$2101a8c0@AB> Message-ID: Gary, Thanks for the info. My entire decision is based on how MS Access will perform in these types of configurations (VM or Dual Boot, etc). Most of the people making these suggestions are 'Mac' people...and they do nothing but praise the 'Mac'. They claim I can use MS Access without ANY issues through an emulator. Is this true? I don't want to start the Mac vs PC debate...just asking about experience using MS Access on a Mac: Maybe...Virtual Machine, Dual Boot Mac/Windows, windows emulator, or some other technique? Thanks Again, Mark A. Matte > Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2008 11:07:57 -0500 > From: garykjos at gmail.com > To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com > Subject: Re: [AccessD] OT Kinda: New Computer > > Hi Mark, > > For future reference, this kind of question should really go to the > Tech List. It's not OT there ;-) If you're not a member of that list > it's easy to join. > > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > > I have several "Mac's are the way to go" friends. I mostly just smile > and nod my head when they go into their Windows S*cks rants. I am just > not ready to relearn everything. My experience with ITUNES on Windows > tells me that I miss the consistent menu or interface structure that > regular windows applications adhere to for the most part. Other than > Itunes of course. Having to figure out that the BURN A CD icon is down > in the LOWER RIGHT CORNER instead of up on the drop down menu where > 80% of the other functionality is kind of ticks me off every time I > use it. I use multiple systems both at home and at work and even > though they have various versions ov Windows and Office, the > interfaces are very similar so I can switch from on to another without > really having to rethink or relearn anything when I switch from one to > another. I'm not anti-Mac by any means and wouldn't mind bringing one > into my flock of systems at some point, but I wouldn't be doing it > with a system I am intending to use as my primary system. > > Gary Kjos > MODERATOR AccessD > > > On 7/17/08, Mark A Matte wrote: >> >> Hello All, >> >> I'm getting ready to shop for a new computer. I'm thinking laptop. I've never owned a Mac...but a number of people are trying to talk me into it. I still wan't to do some Access work. I hear people talking about VM...and I've seen some dual boot machines. I'm kinda nervous about trying to run MS Access on a Mac...I just don't know enough? >> >> Any thoughts/advice/experience? >> >> Also, I think the ONLY reasons my friends are suggesting the Mac is for my photography hobby(even though I rarely edit the photos)...anyway... >> >> Anything is appreciated. >> >> Thanks, >> >> Mark A. Matte > > > -- > Gary Kjos > garykjos at gmail.com > -- > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com _________________________________________________________________ With Windows Live for mobile, your contacts travel with you. http://www.windowslive.com/mobile/overview.html?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_mobile_072008 From garykjos at gmail.com Thu Jul 17 12:05:38 2008 From: garykjos at gmail.com (Gary Kjos) Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2008 12:05:38 -0500 Subject: [AccessD] OT Kinda: New Computer In-Reply-To: References: <29f585dd0807170631k2ce66b67y54d7963f543ef3a2@mail.gmail.com> <000101c8e817$00c4abc0$2101a8c0@AB> Message-ID: OK, then I guess your question is really "kinda" NOT OT ;-) I stand corrected. If you had something like an Action Pack available with multiple office licenses you could load up one of your friends Mac's with one and see how it worked. GK On 7/17/08, Mark A Matte wrote: > > Gary, > > Thanks for the info. > > My entire decision is based on how MS Access will perform in these types of configurations (VM or Dual Boot, etc). > > Most of the people making these suggestions are 'Mac' people...and they do nothing but praise the 'Mac'. They claim I can use MS Access without ANY issues through an emulator. Is this true? > > I don't want to start the Mac vs PC debate...just asking about experience using MS Access on a Mac: > > Maybe...Virtual Machine, Dual Boot Mac/Windows, windows emulator, or some other technique? > > Thanks Again, > > Mark A. Matte > > > > > > > Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2008 11:07:57 -0500 > > From: garykjos at gmail.com > > To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com > > Subject: Re: [AccessD] OT Kinda: New Computer > > > > Hi Mark, > > > > For future reference, this kind of question should really go to the > > Tech List. It's not OT there ;-) If you're not a member of that list > > it's easy to join. > > > > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > > > > I have several "Mac's are the way to go" friends. I mostly just smile > > and nod my head when they go into their Windows S*cks rants. I am just > > not ready to relearn everything. My experience with ITUNES on Windows > > tells me that I miss the consistent menu or interface structure that > > regular windows applications adhere to for the most part. Other than > > Itunes of course. Having to figure out that the BURN A CD icon is down > > in the LOWER RIGHT CORNER instead of up on the drop down menu where > > 80% of the other functionality is kind of ticks me off every time I > > use it. I use multiple systems both at home and at work and even > > though they have various versions ov Windows and Office, the > > interfaces are very similar so I can switch from on to another without > > really having to rethink or relearn anything when I switch from one to > > another. I'm not anti-Mac by any means and wouldn't mind bringing one > > into my flock of systems at some point, but I wouldn't be doing it > > with a system I am intending to use as my primary system. > > > > Gary Kjos > > MODERATOR AccessD > > > > > > On 7/17/08, Mark A Matte wrote: > >> > >> Hello All, > >> > >> I'm getting ready to shop for a new computer. I'm thinking laptop. I've never owned a Mac...but a number of people are trying to talk me into it. I still wan't to do some Access work. I hear people talking about VM...and I've seen some dual boot machines. I'm kinda nervous about trying to run MS Access on a Mac...I just don't know enough? > >> > >> Any thoughts/advice/experience? > >> > >> Also, I think the ONLY reasons my friends are suggesting the Mac is for my photography hobby(even though I rarely edit the photos)...anyway... > >> > >> Anything is appreciated. > >> > >> Thanks, > >> > >> Mark A. Matte > > > > > > -- > > Gary Kjos > > garykjos at gmail.com > > -- > > AccessD mailing list > > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > _________________________________________________________________ > With Windows Live for mobile, your contacts travel with you. > http://www.windowslive.com/mobile/overview.html?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_mobile_072008 > -- > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > -- Gary Kjos garykjos at gmail.com From DWUTKA at Marlow.com Thu Jul 17 12:10:38 2008 From: DWUTKA at Marlow.com (Drew Wutka) Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2008 12:10:38 -0500 Subject: [AccessD] OT Kinda: New Computer In-Reply-To: Message-ID: I LOVE my Dell Vostro 1700. I got the extended 3 year warranty (with Accident Coverage). It's a 17" wide screen, full keyboard (including 10 key number pad), 2.2 ghz Duo Core, 2 160 gig SATA hard drives (that's right, TWO hard drives), 2 gigs of RAM, NVidia video card (which has some nice features, internal wireless and blue tooth. Battery lasts about 4 to 5 hours (would last longer if I set the monitor to be dimmer, but I have it almost full brightness on battery). The warranty is awesome, within a few weeks of having my laptop, I had it in my backpack, but I forgot to zipper it, and I dropped my laptop in the parking lot outside. The DVD rom just flew out of it. Got online with Dell, live, with a tech, they took my 'service number', and I had a new DVD rom the next day. Performance wise, it's just great. Couldn't be happier. Only issue that I have is that is has a PCExpress slot, and NO PCMCIA slot, but it doesn't bug me, I don't really have anything to use for PCMCIA anyways. Drew -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Mark A Matte Sent: Thursday, July 17, 2008 10:39 AM To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving Subject: [AccessD] OT Kinda: New Computer Hello All, I'm getting ready to shop for a new computer. I'm thinking laptop. I've never owned a Mac...but a number of people are trying to talk me into it. I still wan't to do some Access work. I hear people talking about VM...and I've seen some dual boot machines. I'm kinda nervous about trying to run MS Access on a Mac...I just don't know enough? Any thoughts/advice/experience? Also, I think the ONLY reasons my friends are suggesting the Mac is for my photography hobby(even though I rarely edit the photos)...anyway... Anything is appreciated. Thanks, Mark A. Matte _________________________________________________________________ Time for vacation? WIN what you need- enter now! http://www.gowindowslive.com/summergiveaway/?ocid=tag_jlyhm -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com The information contained in this transmission is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain II-VI Proprietary and/or II-VI Business Sensitive material. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender immediately and destroy the material in its entirety, whether electronic or hard copy. You are notified that any review, retransmission, copying, disclosure, dissemination, or other use of, or taking of any action in reliance upon this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient is prohibited. From DWUTKA at Marlow.com Thu Jul 17 12:13:25 2008 From: DWUTKA at Marlow.com (Drew Wutka) Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2008 12:13:25 -0500 Subject: [AccessD] OT Kinda: New Computer In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Using Access in Virtual PC is going to depend on a few things. One, the memory and Processor speed you setup for the virtual machine to use. Two, the drive speed you have (because a virtual machine is 'virtualizing' a file into a hard drive, so it's going to be a little slower then your hard drive already is. On a Mac, the software is called Parallels, and yes, it runs windows just fine. Though, as it's already been mentioned in this thread, if your only reason for looking at Macs is due to pictures, I wouldn't bother. Video is an entirely different matter. PCs still don't hold a candle to Macs Video capabilities. Drew -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Mark A Matte Sent: Thursday, July 17, 2008 11:54 AM To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving Subject: Re: [AccessD] OT Kinda: New Computer Gary, Thanks for the info. My entire decision is based on how MS Access will perform in these types of configurations (VM or Dual Boot, etc). Most of the people making these suggestions are 'Mac' people...and they do nothing but praise the 'Mac'. They claim I can use MS Access without ANY issues through an emulator. Is this true? I don't want to start the Mac vs PC debate...just asking about experience using MS Access on a Mac: Maybe...Virtual Machine, Dual Boot Mac/Windows, windows emulator, or some other technique? Thanks Again, Mark A. Matte > Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2008 11:07:57 -0500 > From: garykjos at gmail.com > To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com > Subject: Re: [AccessD] OT Kinda: New Computer > > Hi Mark, > > For future reference, this kind of question should really go to the > Tech List. It's not OT there ;-) If you're not a member of that list > it's easy to join. > > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech > > I have several "Mac's are the way to go" friends. I mostly just smile > and nod my head when they go into their Windows S*cks rants. I am just > not ready to relearn everything. My experience with ITUNES on Windows > tells me that I miss the consistent menu or interface structure that > regular windows applications adhere to for the most part. Other than > Itunes of course. Having to figure out that the BURN A CD icon is down > in the LOWER RIGHT CORNER instead of up on the drop down menu where > 80% of the other functionality is kind of ticks me off every time I > use it. I use multiple systems both at home and at work and even > though they have various versions ov Windows and Office, the > interfaces are very similar so I can switch from on to another without > really having to rethink or relearn anything when I switch from one to > another. I'm not anti-Mac by any means and wouldn't mind bringing one > into my flock of systems at some point, but I wouldn't be doing it > with a system I am intending to use as my primary system. > > Gary Kjos > MODERATOR AccessD > > > On 7/17/08, Mark A Matte wrote: >> >> Hello All, >> >> I'm getting ready to shop for a new computer. I'm thinking laptop. I've never owned a Mac...but a number of people are trying to talk me into it. I still wan't to do some Access work. I hear people talking about VM...and I've seen some dual boot machines. I'm kinda nervous about trying to run MS Access on a Mac...I just don't know enough? >> >> Any thoughts/advice/experience? >> >> Also, I think the ONLY reasons my friends are suggesting the Mac is for my photography hobby(even though I rarely edit the photos)...anyway... >> >> Anything is appreciated. >> >> Thanks, >> >> Mark A. Matte > > > -- > Gary Kjos > garykjos at gmail.com > -- > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com _________________________________________________________________ With Windows Live for mobile, your contacts travel with you. http://www.windowslive.com/mobile/overview.html?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_mobile _072008 -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com The information contained in this transmission is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain II-VI Proprietary and/or II-VI Business Sensitive material. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender immediately and destroy the material in its entirety, whether electronic or hard copy. You are notified that any review, retransmission, copying, disclosure, dissemination, or other use of, or taking of any action in reliance upon this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient is prohibited. From jwelz at hotmail.com Thu Jul 17 12:30:11 2008 From: jwelz at hotmail.com (Jurgen Welz) Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2008 11:30:11 -0600 Subject: [AccessD] OT Kinda: New Computer In-Reply-To: References: <29f585dd0807170631k2ce66b67y54d7963f543ef3a2@mail.gmail.com> <000101c8e817$00c4abc0$2101a8c0@AB> Message-ID: I bought a 24" iMac this spring and started researching Windows and Linux options yesterday. Music, videography and photography are all interests of mine and I was hoping to explore OS X to see if there was substance to the hype. Most of the included software with the Mac is obtuse and crippled, but Windows machines fare little better with bundled software. The Garage Band music application might be better named Garbarage Band. The mouse that comes with the iMac is supposed to support right and left click but I'll be damned if I can get that to work. The help has been next to useless and in general has been a good deal less helpful than Windows help. I do like that the mouse also has a trackball at the top, though at pea size, it is a little small for my taste. When I hooked up an external drive, the Time Machine backup application offered to format the drive I had been using as a Windows backup drive. Abort... I purchased a new drive and the next dozen times I hooked it up, Time Machine crashed with a very un Mac like error message. I searched for web solutions and found reports of Apple techs on the phone with users for over an hour troubleshooting this without solutions. It turns out that you need to change a system preference setting if you tell it not to format/use one drive and subsequently try another. You get a free trial of online services that includes an email account. Too bad both our broadband providers use a port for SMTP that is blocked by the OS. Sending an email will get you a error message that you aren't connected to the internet, while at the same time your browser is open and connected. Knowing something from the PC side of things, this can be solved, but heaven help you with finding where these settings are, because Mac users are protected from themselves. If I were that glib idiot in the Mac vs PC commercials, I'd have to shoot myself over the hundreds of thousands or millions of complaints these issues must have caused. There have been many more 'out of the box' it doesn't work, or, no help on how do I get it to do 'A' types of issues. Part of my grief with this is an adjustment to a new system and the attendant learning curve. If I didn't have the ability to access the internet and search efficiently for solutions, there is no way I could have accomplished as much as I have so far. Then again, maybe I wouldn't have had the expectation that a computer could do something useful and would have been satified by having a pretty desk ornament. The system is flashy, has excellent graphics and good sound. At this point I simply am not able to accomplish much with it and continue to run into frustrations. I will set it up primarily as a Windows XP machine with the option to boot to OS X. Once I have that figured out, Adobe CS3 and Sibellius are going on and I will be using a conventional blue tooth mouse. This has been a worthwhile learning experience though there has been much gnashing of teeth and frustration with this system. More than with ANY system I've used since my first Coleco Adam 24 years ago. If I were to do it over again, I'd be tempted to see whether I could get it to work it the other way, run OS X on a PC as I believe all of the hardware on the iMac is available in PC as well. CiaoJ?rgen WelzEdmonton, Albertajwelz at hotmail.com> From: markamatte at hotmail.com> To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com> Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2008 15:39:29 +0000> Subject: [AccessD] OT Kinda: New Computer> > > Hello All,> > I'm getting ready to shop for a new computer. I'm thinking laptop. I've never owned a Mac...but a number of people are trying to talk me into it. I still wan't to do some Access work. I hear people talking about VM...and I've seen some dual boot machines. I'm kinda nervous about trying to run MS Access on a Mac...I just don't know enough?> > Any thoughts/advice/experience?> > Also, I think the ONLY reasons my friends are suggesting the Mac is for my photography hobby(even though I rarely edit the photos)...anyway...> > Anything is appreciated.> > Thanks,> > Mark A. Matte _________________________________________________________________ If you like crossword puzzles, then you'll love Flexicon, a game which combines four overlapping crossword puzzles into one! http://g.msn.ca/ca55/208 From dbdoug at gmail.com Thu Jul 17 12:51:51 2008 From: dbdoug at gmail.com (Doug Steele) Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2008 10:51:51 -0700 Subject: [AccessD] OT Kinda: New Computer In-Reply-To: References: <29f585dd0807170631k2ce66b67y54d7963f543ef3a2@mail.gmail.com> <000101c8e817$00c4abc0$2101a8c0@AB> Message-ID: <4dd71a0c0807171051h539f622dn69de6b32e4f3eff2@mail.gmail.com> This is a copy of an email I sent to Mark privately (didn't want to get my hand spanked), but now that the topic is not so off-topic, it might be of interest: I bought my first Macbook (13") a couple of months ago, and am using it as my secondary development machine for all my Access databases (when I'm out of the office, which is quite often). I use VMWare Fusion, and have separate virtual machines set up for all the different versions of Access that I use (97, 2000, 2003, 2007). It works very well. Things I've learned: 1. When you set up a virtual machine, 8 gb is barely enough for Win XP Pro and Office. If you try to enlarge a VM it is tricky (needs a Linux CD). 2. 2GB RAM is barely enough for 1 VM; I have now gone to 4GB and it will run 2 VMs nicely. 3. If you change the RAM usable for a VM after setting it up, Windows needs to be reactivated. It's gone through automatically every time so far, but it gave me a heart attack the first time. One other item: the keyboard differences are a bit of a nuisance. I've found that I need to have the On-Screen Keyboard from Microsoft handy for things like 'Break'. Doug Steele From Mark.Porter at nana.com Thu Jul 17 14:29:57 2008 From: Mark.Porter at nana.com (Mark Porter) Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2008 11:29:57 -0800 Subject: [AccessD] Wrong field type when linking to Excel Message-ID: I'm linking to an Excel sheet and getting an incorrect field type (numeric instead of text). I get the same problem when importing the sheet into a table with the field specified as text. I have not had this issue with Excel sheets with similar data, so I'm tempted to look for something wrong with the sheet (the field is set to Text). Saving as CSV and importing that way causes other issues. Any ideas or solutions? Thanks in advance, Mark Porter Sr. Technologist Nana Development Corp. Desk: 907-265-4156 Fax: 907-343-5656 From markamatte at hotmail.com Thu Jul 17 15:27:12 2008 From: markamatte at hotmail.com (Mark A Matte) Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2008 20:27:12 +0000 Subject: [AccessD] OT Kinda: New Computer In-Reply-To: <4dd71a0c0807171051h539f622dn69de6b32e4f3eff2@mail.gmail.com> References: <29f585dd0807170631k2ce66b67y54d7963f543ef3a2@mail.gmail.com> <000101c8e817$00c4abc0$2101a8c0@AB> <4dd71a0c0807171051h539f622dn69de6b32e4f3eff2@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Doug, Please pardon my ignorance... You run a Mac OS...and then from there you run a VM ( or more than 1) running windows? Thanks again, Mark A. Matte > Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2008 10:51:51 -0700 > From: dbdoug at gmail.com > To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com > Subject: Re: [AccessD] OT Kinda: New Computer > > This is a copy of an email I sent to Mark privately (didn't want to get my > hand spanked), but now that the topic is not so off-topic, it might be of > interest: > > I bought my first Macbook (13") a couple of months ago, and am using it as > my secondary development machine for all my Access databases (when I'm out > of the office, which is quite often). I use VMWare Fusion, and have > separate virtual machines set up for all the different versions of Access > that I use (97, 2000, 2003, 2007). It works very well. > > Things I've learned: > 1. When you set up a virtual machine, 8 gb is barely enough for Win XP Pro > and Office. If you try to enlarge a VM it is tricky (needs a Linux CD). > 2. 2GB RAM is barely enough for 1 VM; I have now gone to 4GB and it will run > 2 VMs nicely. > 3. If you change the RAM usable for a VM after setting it up, Windows needs > to be reactivated. It's gone through automatically every time so far, but > it gave me a heart attack the first time. > > One other item: the keyboard differences are a bit of a nuisance. I've > found that I need to have the On-Screen Keyboard from Microsoft handy for > things like 'Break'. > > Doug Steele > -- > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com _________________________________________________________________ With Windows Live for mobile, your contacts travel with you. http://www.windowslive.com/mobile/overview.html?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_mobile_072008 From markamatte at hotmail.com Thu Jul 17 15:30:50 2008 From: markamatte at hotmail.com (Mark A Matte) Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2008 20:30:50 +0000 Subject: [AccessD] Wrong field type when linking to Excel In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Mark, Something I noticed that if a spreadsheet had the little green error indicator on a cell(number as text)...Access would 'choke' on it but not real sure how to fix it other than clear the error in excel. I'm sure there is a way...I just haven't researched it. > Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2008 11:29:57 -0800 > From: Mark.Porter at nana.com > To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com > Subject: [AccessD] Wrong field type when linking to Excel > > I'm linking to an Excel sheet and getting an incorrect field type > (numeric instead of text). > > > > I get the same problem when importing the sheet into a table with the > field specified as text. > > > > I have not had this issue with Excel sheets with similar data, so I'm > tempted to look for something wrong with the sheet (the field is set to > Text). > > > > Saving as CSV and importing that way causes other issues. > > > > Any ideas or solutions? > > > > Thanks in advance, > > > > Mark Porter > > Sr. Technologist > > Nana Development Corp. > > Desk: 907-265-4156 > > Fax: 907-343-5656 > > > > > > -- > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com _________________________________________________________________ Use video conversation to talk face-to-face with Windows Live Messenger. http://www.windowslive.com/messenger/connect_your_way.html?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_Refresh_messenger_video_072008 From garykjos at gmail.com Thu Jul 17 15:38:44 2008 From: garykjos at gmail.com (Gary Kjos) Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2008 15:38:44 -0500 Subject: [AccessD] Wrong field type when linking to Excel In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Sometimes I put a dummy first data row in an Excel file to get it to import the way I want. Put in something like XXXXX if you want it to be taken as a text field rather than a numeric. GK On 7/17/08, Mark Porter wrote: > I'm linking to an Excel sheet and getting an incorrect field type > (numeric instead of text). > > > > I get the same problem when importing the sheet into a table with the > field specified as text. > > > > I have not had this issue with Excel sheets with similar data, so I'm > tempted to look for something wrong with the sheet (the field is set to > Text). > > > > Saving as CSV and importing that way causes other issues. > > > > Any ideas or solutions? > > > > Thanks in advance, > > > > Mark Porter > > Sr. Technologist > > Nana Development Corp. > > Desk: 907-265-4156 > > Fax: 907-343-5656 > > > > > > -- > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > -- Gary Kjos garykjos at gmail.com From Chester_Kaup at kindermorgan.com Thu Jul 17 16:07:43 2008 From: Chester_Kaup at kindermorgan.com (Kaup, Chester) Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2008 16:07:43 -0500 Subject: [AccessD] Query gives duplicate records Message-ID: <0B2BF8524B73A248A2F1B81BA751ED3C058454E5@houex1.kindermorgan.com> This query asks for a value for [tbl Wells on SCADA]![Wellname]. INSERT INTO [tbl Wells on SCADA] ( Wellname ) SELECT DISTINCT [qry Water Injectors on SCADA].Wellname FROM [qry Water Injectors on SCADA] WHERE ((([qry Water Injectors on SCADA].Wellname)<>[tbl Wells on SCADA]![Wellname])); If I modify the query like this I don't get asked for [tbl Wells on SCADA]![Wellname] but I get duplicate records. INSERT INTO [tbl Wells on SCADA] ( Wellname ) SELECT DISTINCT [qry Water Injectors on SCADA].Wellname FROM [qry Water Injectors on SCADA], [tbl Wells on SCADA] WHERE ((([qry Water Injectors on SCADA].Wellname)<>[tbl Wells on SCADA]![Wellname])); What am I doing wrong here. Thanks. Chester Kaup Engineering Technician Kinder Morgan CO2 Company, LLP Office (432) 688-3797 FAX (432) 688-3799 No trees were killed in the sending of this message. However a large number of electrons were terribly inconvenienced. From Gustav at cactus.dk Thu Jul 17 16:14:06 2008 From: Gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock) Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2008 23:14:06 +0200 Subject: [AccessD] Query gives duplicate records Message-ID: Hi Chester Try with a dot: [tbl Wells on SCADA].[Wellname] /gustav >>> Chester_Kaup at kindermorgan.com 17-07-2008 23:07 >>> This query asks for a value for [tbl Wells on SCADA]![Wellname]. INSERT INTO [tbl Wells on SCADA] ( Wellname ) SELECT DISTINCT [qry Water Injectors on SCADA].Wellname FROM [qry Water Injectors on SCADA] WHERE ((([qry Water Injectors on SCADA].Wellname)<>[tbl Wells on SCADA]![Wellname])); If I modify the query like this I don't get asked for [tbl Wells on SCADA]![Wellname] but I get duplicate records. INSERT INTO [tbl Wells on SCADA] ( Wellname ) SELECT DISTINCT [qry Water Injectors on SCADA].Wellname FROM [qry Water Injectors on SCADA], [tbl Wells on SCADA] WHERE ((([qry Water Injectors on SCADA].Wellname)<>[tbl Wells on SCADA]![Wellname])); What am I doing wrong here. Thanks. Chester Kaup Engineering Technician Kinder Morgan CO2 Company, LLP Office (432) 688-3797 FAX (432) 688-3799 From DWUTKA at Marlow.com Thu Jul 17 16:26:26 2008 From: DWUTKA at Marlow.com (Drew Wutka) Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2008 16:26:26 -0500 Subject: [AccessD] OT Kinda: New Computer In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Great commentary Jurgen! Drew -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jurgen Welz Sent: Thursday, July 17, 2008 12:30 PM To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving Subject: Re: [AccessD] OT Kinda: New Computer I bought a 24" iMac this spring and started researching Windows and Linux options yesterday. Music, videography and photography are all interests of mine and I was hoping to explore OS X to see if there was substance to the hype. Most of the included software with the Mac is obtuse and crippled, but Windows machines fare little better with bundled software. The Garage Band music application might be better named Garbarage Band. The mouse that comes with the iMac is supposed to support right and left click but I'll be damned if I can get that to work. The help has been next to useless and in general has been a good deal less helpful than Windows help. I do like that the mouse also has a trackball at the top, though at pea size, it is a little small for my taste. When I hooked up an external drive, the Time Machine backup application offered to format the drive I had been using as a Windows backup drive. Abort... I purchased a new drive and the next dozen times I hooked it up, Time Machine crashed with a very un Mac like error message. I searched for web solutions and found reports of Apple techs on the phone with users for over an hour troubleshooting this without solutions. It turns out that you need to change a system preference setting if you tell it not to format/use one drive and subsequently try another. You get a free trial of online services that includes an email account. Too bad both our broadband providers use a port for SMTP that is blocked by the OS. Sending an email will get you a error message that you aren't connected to the internet, while at the same time your browser is open and connected. Knowing something from the PC side of things, this can be solved, but heaven help you with finding where these settings are, because Mac users are protected from themselves. If I were that glib idiot in the Mac vs PC commercials, I'd have to shoot myself over the hundreds of thousands or millions of complaints these issues must have caused. There have been many more 'out of the box' it doesn't work, or, no help on how do I get it to do 'A' types of issues. Part of my grief with this is an adjustment to a new system and the attendant learning curve. If I didn't have the ability to access the internet and search efficiently for solutions, there is no way I could have accomplished as much as I have so far. Then again, maybe I wouldn't have had the expectation that a computer could do something useful and would have been satified by having a pretty desk ornament. The system is flashy, has excellent graphics and good sound. At this point I simply am not able to accomplish much with it and continue to run into frustrations. I will set it up primarily as a Windows XP machine with the option to boot to OS X. Once I have that figured out, Adobe CS3 and Sibellius are going on and I will be using a conventional blue tooth mouse. This has been a worthwhile learning experience though there has been much gnashing of teeth and frustration with this system. More than with ANY system I've used since my first Coleco Adam 24 years ago. If I were to do it over again, I'd be tempted to see whether I could get it to work it the other way, run OS X on a PC as I believe all of the hardware on the iMac is available in PC as well. CiaoJ?rgen WelzEdmonton, Albertajwelz at hotmail.com> From: markamatte at hotmail.com> To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com> Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2008 15:39:29 +0000> Subject: [AccessD] OT Kinda: New Computer> > > Hello All,> > I'm getting ready to shop for a new computer. I'm thinking laptop. I've never owned a Mac...but a number of people are trying to talk me into it. I still wan't to do some Access work. I hear people talking about VM...and I've seen some dual boot machines. I'm kinda nervous about trying to run MS Access on a Mac...I just don't know enough?> > Any thoughts/advice/experience?> > Also, I think the ONLY reasons my friends are suggesting the Mac is for my photography hobby(even though I rarely edit the photos)...anyway...> > Anything is appreciated.> > Thanks,> > Mark A. Matte _________________________________________________________________ If you like crossword puzzles, then you'll love Flexicon, a game which combines four overlapping crossword puzzles into one! http://g.msn.ca/ca55/208 -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com The information contained in this transmission is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain II-VI Proprietary and/or II-VI Business Sensitive material. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender immediately and destroy the material in its entirety, whether electronic or hard copy. You are notified that any review, retransmission, copying, disclosure, dissemination, or other use of, or taking of any action in reliance upon this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient is prohibited. From ab-mi at post3.tele.dk Thu Jul 17 17:39:54 2008 From: ab-mi at post3.tele.dk (Asger Blond) Date: Fri, 18 Jul 2008 00:39:54 +0200 Subject: [AccessD] Query gives duplicate records In-Reply-To: <0B2BF8524B73A248A2F1B81BA751ED3C058454E5@houex1.kindermorgan.com> Message-ID: <000001c8e85e$1d9e90c0$2101a8c0@AB> Chester, Try this: INSERT INTO [tbl Wells on SCADA] (Wellname) SELECT DISTINCT [qry Water Injectors on SCADA].Wellname FROM [qry Water Injectors on SCADA] WHERE [qry Water Injectors on SCADA].Wellname) NOT IN (SELECT Wellname FROM [tbl Wells on SCADA]); Asger -----Oprindelig meddelelse----- Fra: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] P? vegne af Kaup, Chester Sendt: 17. juli 2008 23:08 Til: Access Developers discussion and problem solving Emne: [AccessD] Query gives duplicate records This query asks for a value for [tbl Wells on SCADA]![Wellname]. INSERT INTO [tbl Wells on SCADA] ( Wellname ) SELECT DISTINCT [qry Water Injectors on SCADA].Wellname FROM [qry Water Injectors on SCADA] WHERE ((([qry Water Injectors on SCADA].Wellname)<>[tbl Wells on SCADA]![Wellname])); If I modify the query like this I don't get asked for [tbl Wells on SCADA]![Wellname] but I get duplicate records. INSERT INTO [tbl Wells on SCADA] ( Wellname ) SELECT DISTINCT [qry Water Injectors on SCADA].Wellname FROM [qry Water Injectors on SCADA], [tbl Wells on SCADA] WHERE ((([qry Water Injectors on SCADA].Wellname)<>[tbl Wells on SCADA]![Wellname])); What am I doing wrong here. Thanks. Chester Kaup Engineering Technician Kinder Morgan CO2 Company, LLP Office (432) 688-3797 FAX (432) 688-3799 No trees were killed in the sending of this message. However a large number of electrons were terribly inconvenienced. -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From ab-mi at post3.tele.dk Thu Jul 17 17:56:14 2008 From: ab-mi at post3.tele.dk (Asger Blond) Date: Fri, 18 Jul 2008 00:56:14 +0200 Subject: [AccessD] Query gives duplicate records In-Reply-To: <0B2BF8524B73A248A2F1B81BA751ED3C058454E5@houex1.kindermorgan.com> Message-ID: <000101c8e860$50be4390$2101a8c0@AB> Chester, My previous posting had a closing parenthesis in the code, which should be omitted - This is supposed to work: INSERT INTO [tbl Wells on SCADA] (Wellname) SELECT DISTINCT [qry Water Injectors on SCADA].Wellname FROM [qry Water Injectors on SCADA] WHERE [qry Water Injectors on SCADA].Wellname NOT IN (SELECT Wellname FROM [tbl Wells on SCADA]); Asger -----Oprindelig meddelelse----- Fra: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] P? vegne af Kaup, Chester Sendt: 17. juli 2008 23:08 Til: Access Developers discussion and problem solving Emne: [AccessD] Query gives duplicate records This query asks for a value for [tbl Wells on SCADA]![Wellname]. INSERT INTO [tbl Wells on SCADA] ( Wellname ) SELECT DISTINCT [qry Water Injectors on SCADA].Wellname FROM [qry Water Injectors on SCADA] WHERE ((([qry Water Injectors on SCADA].Wellname)<>[tbl Wells on SCADA]![Wellname])); If I modify the query like this I don't get asked for [tbl Wells on SCADA]![Wellname] but I get duplicate records. INSERT INTO [tbl Wells on SCADA] ( Wellname ) SELECT DISTINCT [qry Water Injectors on SCADA].Wellname FROM [qry Water Injectors on SCADA], [tbl Wells on SCADA] WHERE ((([qry Water Injectors on SCADA].Wellname)<>[tbl Wells on SCADA]![Wellname])); What am I doing wrong here. Thanks. Chester Kaup Engineering Technician Kinder Morgan CO2 Company, LLP Office (432) 688-3797 FAX (432) 688-3799 No trees were killed in the sending of this message. However a large number of electrons were terribly inconvenienced. -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From darren at activebilling.com.au Thu Jul 17 20:08:09 2008 From: darren at activebilling.com.au (Darren D) Date: Fri, 18 Jul 2008 11:08:09 +1000 Subject: [AccessD] A2203: Date Format Issues In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <200807180108.m6I188TT024313@databaseadvisors.com> Thanks to all who responded I have edited my regional settings and still it fails I have had to capitulate and get the SQL built on the fly to have American date formatting arrrrggghhh Darren -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Drew Wutka Sent: Saturday, 12 July 2008 2:09 AM To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving Subject: Re: [AccessD] A2203: Date Format Issues Are you creating this SQL in code? If so, use DateSerial to 'put' the date into the SQL and you'll never have a problem. Drew -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Darren D Sent: Friday, July 11, 2008 1:36 AM To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' Subject: [AccessD] A2203: Date Format Issues Hi Team I have a new machine - SO maybe this date question is a regional setting issue Anyhow - I am trying to show all accounts created in a db since a certain date When I debug the recordsource SQL that is supposed to 'feed' the form I see select * from tblAccount where DateCreated >= #4/07/2008# Excellent - Over here in Oz we want dd/mm/yyy date formatting So to me this SQL will show me all the accounts created since the 4th July 2008 But it does not It ends up showing me all the accounts created since 7th April Arrrgggghhhh I have made all the neseccary changes to regional settings Help please Darren -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com The information contained in this transmission is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain II-VI Proprietary and/or II-VI Business Sensitive material. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender immediately and destroy the material in its entirety, whether electronic or hard copy. You are notified that any review, retransmission, copying, disclosure, dissemination, or other use of, or taking of any action in reliance upon this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient is prohibited. -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From Darryl.Collins at coles.com.au Thu Jul 17 20:15:46 2008 From: Darryl.Collins at coles.com.au (Darryl Collins) Date: Fri, 18 Jul 2008 11:15:46 +1000 Subject: [AccessD] A2203: Date Format Issues In-Reply-To: <200807180108.m6I188TT024313@databaseadvisors.com> Message-ID: <57E6E6CA42105A48B977303A2CDC2720076BF12D69@WPEXCH22.retail.ad.cmltd.net.au> Hi Darren, Did you try Drews suggestion? >From Access Help: '======================================================== DateSerial, Day, Month, and Year Function Examples The following example uses the DateSerial function together with the Year, Month, and Day functions to return the number of days in a month. You can pass either a date or a string to the DaysInMonth function. Function DaysInMonth(dteInput As Date) As Integer Dim intDays As Integer ' Add one month, subtract dates to find difference. intDays = DateSerial(Year(dteInput), _ Month(dteInput) + 1, Day(dteInput)) _ DateSerial(Year(dteInput), _ Month(dteInput), Day(dteInput)) DaysInMonth = intDays Debug.Print intDays End Function The following Sub procedure shows several different ways that you might call the DaysInMonth function. Sub CallDaysInMonth() Dim intDays As Integer intDays = DaysInMonth(#4/1/96#) intDays = DaysInMonth("4-1-96") intDays = DaysInMonth("April 1, 1996") End Sub '================================================================ -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Darren D Sent: Friday, 18 July 2008 11:08 AM To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' Subject: Re: [AccessD] A2203: Date Format Issues Thanks to all who responded I have edited my regional settings and still it fails I have had to capitulate and get the SQL built on the fly to have American date formatting arrrrggghhh Darren -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Drew Wutka Sent: Saturday, 12 July 2008 2:09 AM To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving Subject: Re: [AccessD] A2203: Date Format Issues Are you creating this SQL in code? If so, use DateSerial to 'put' the date into the SQL and you'll never have a problem. Drew -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Darren D Sent: Friday, July 11, 2008 1:36 AM To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' Subject: [AccessD] A2203: Date Format Issues Hi Team I have a new machine - SO maybe this date question is a regional setting issue Anyhow - I am trying to show all accounts created in a db since a certain date When I debug the recordsource SQL that is supposed to 'feed' the form I see select * from tblAccount where DateCreated >= #4/07/2008# Excellent - Over here in Oz we want dd/mm/yyy date formatting So to me this SQL will show me all the accounts created since the 4th July 2008 But it does not It ends up showing me all the accounts created since 7th April Arrrgggghhhh I have made all the neseccary changes to regional settings Help please Darren -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com The information contained in this transmission is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain II-VI Proprietary and/or II-VI Business Sensitive material. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender immediately and destroy the material in its entirety, whether electronic or hard copy. You are notified that any review, retransmission, copying, disclosure, dissemination, or other use of, or taking of any action in reliance upon this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient is prohibited. -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com This email and any attachments may contain privileged and confidential information and are intended for the named addressee only. If you have received this e-mail in error, please notify the sender and delete this e-mail immediately. Any confidentiality, privilege or copyright is not waived or lost because this e-mail has been sent to you in error. It is your responsibility to check this e-mail and any attachments for viruses. No warranty is made that this material is free from computer virus or any other defect or error. Any loss/damage incurred by using this material is not the sender's responsibility. The sender's entire liability will be limited to resupplying the material. From darren at activebilling.com.au Thu Jul 17 20:26:35 2008 From: darren at activebilling.com.au (Darren D) Date: Fri, 18 Jul 2008 11:26:35 +1000 Subject: [AccessD] A2203: Date Format Issues In-Reply-To: <57E6E6CA42105A48B977303A2CDC2720076BF12D69@WPEXCH22.retail.ad.cmltd.net.au> Message-ID: <200807180126.m6I1QY7X001650@databaseadvisors.com> Howdy Funny I did try it and yes that's what I ended up doing I just used date serial to get the date 7 days ago in American format mm/dd/yyyy and then passed that to the SQL. When I used date serial to get the date (less 7 days) in to dd/mm/yyyy (Aussie format) the sql looked lovely in debug.print yet returned no results (when I knew there were some) when I applied it as the form's SQL When I copied the sql from the immediate window and pasted it into the Query Designer in SQL mode - It pasted nice - Then I'd run it and get no results then I'd look at it in Query design mode and the mongrel had reversed the date and month right there in the query design window So in the immediate window I'd have select * from tblAccount where datecreated >= #11/07/2008# <--pretty herbal So I'd paste that into the SQL Query designer - it'd paste OK - then I'd run it - get no results - even though I know there are some - then I'd look at it in query design mode - see the month and date had been changed then look at it again in SQL view and see something like select * from tblAccount where tblAccount.datecreated >= #7/11/2008# plus a few parenthesis - SO I just gave up and formatted the date like the yanks Many thanks Darren -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Darryl Collins Sent: Friday, 18 July 2008 11:16 AM To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' Subject: Re: [AccessD] A2203: Date Format Issues Hi Darren, Did you try Drews suggestion? >From Access Help: '======================================================== DateSerial, Day, Month, and Year Function Examples The following example uses the DateSerial function together with the Year, Month, and Day functions to return the number of days in a month. You can pass either a date or a string to the DaysInMonth function. Function DaysInMonth(dteInput As Date) As Integer Dim intDays As Integer ' Add one month, subtract dates to find difference. intDays = DateSerial(Year(dteInput), _ Month(dteInput) + 1, Day(dteInput)) _ DateSerial(Year(dteInput), _ Month(dteInput), Day(dteInput)) DaysInMonth = intDays Debug.Print intDays End Function The following Sub procedure shows several different ways that you might call the DaysInMonth function. Sub CallDaysInMonth() Dim intDays As Integer intDays = DaysInMonth(#4/1/96#) intDays = DaysInMonth("4-1-96") intDays = DaysInMonth("April 1, 1996") End Sub '================================================================ -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Darren D Sent: Friday, 18 July 2008 11:08 AM To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' Subject: Re: [AccessD] A2203: Date Format Issues Thanks to all who responded I have edited my regional settings and still it fails I have had to capitulate and get the SQL built on the fly to have American date formatting arrrrggghhh Darren -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Drew Wutka Sent: Saturday, 12 July 2008 2:09 AM To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving Subject: Re: [AccessD] A2203: Date Format Issues Are you creating this SQL in code? If so, use DateSerial to 'put' the date into the SQL and you'll never have a problem. Drew -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Darren D Sent: Friday, July 11, 2008 1:36 AM To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' Subject: [AccessD] A2203: Date Format Issues Hi Team I have a new machine - SO maybe this date question is a regional setting issue Anyhow - I am trying to show all accounts created in a db since a certain date When I debug the recordsource SQL that is supposed to 'feed' the form I see select * from tblAccount where DateCreated >= #4/07/2008# Excellent - Over here in Oz we want dd/mm/yyy date formatting So to me this SQL will show me all the accounts created since the 4th July 2008 But it does not It ends up showing me all the accounts created since 7th April Arrrgggghhhh I have made all the neseccary changes to regional settings Help please Darren -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com The information contained in this transmission is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain II-VI Proprietary and/or II-VI Business Sensitive material. 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The sender's entire liability will be limited to resupplying the material. -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From kp at sdsonline.net Thu Jul 17 20:31:01 2008 From: kp at sdsonline.net (Kath Pelletti) Date: Fri, 18 Jul 2008 11:31:01 +1000 Subject: [AccessD] OT: A2203: Date Format Issues References: <200807180126.m6I1QY7X001650@databaseadvisors.com> Message-ID: <002201c8e875$f0ea8c60$6401a8c0@DELLAPTOP> what an aussie thread..... both "yanks" and "mongrel" in the same message.... :) kath ----- Original Message ----- From: "Darren D" To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'" Sent: Friday, July 18, 2008 11:26 AM Subject: Re: [AccessD] A2203: Date Format Issues > Howdy > > Funny I did try it and yes that's what I ended up doing > I just used date serial to get the date 7 days ago in American format > mm/dd/yyyy > and then passed that to the SQL. When I used date serial to get the date > (less 7 > days) in to dd/mm/yyyy (Aussie format) the sql looked lovely in > debug.print yet > returned no results (when I knew there were some) when I applied it as the > form's SQL > > When I copied the sql from the immediate window and pasted it into the > Query > Designer in SQL mode - It pasted nice - Then I'd run it and get no results > then > I'd look at it in Query design mode and the mongrel had reversed the date > and > month right there in the query design window > > So in the immediate window I'd have > select * from tblAccount where datecreated >= #11/07/2008# <--pretty > herbal > > So I'd paste that into the SQL Query designer - it'd paste OK - then I'd > run it > - get no results - even though I know there are some - then I'd look at it > in > query design mode - see the month and date had been changed then look at > it > again in SQL view and see something like > > select * from tblAccount where tblAccount.datecreated >= #7/11/2008# > plus a few parenthesis - SO I just gave up and formatted the date like the > yanks > > > Many thanks > > Darren > > -----Original Message----- > From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Darryl Collins > Sent: Friday, 18 July 2008 11:16 AM > To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' > Subject: Re: [AccessD] A2203: Date Format Issues > > Hi Darren, > > Did you try Drews suggestion? > >>From Access Help: > > '======================================================== > DateSerial, Day, Month, and Year Function Examples > > The following example uses the DateSerial function together with the Year, > Month, and Day functions to return the number of days in a month. You can > pass > either a date or a string to the DaysInMonth function. > > Function DaysInMonth(dteInput As Date) As Integer > Dim intDays As Integer > > ' Add one month, subtract dates to find difference. > intDays = DateSerial(Year(dteInput), _ > Month(dteInput) + 1, Day(dteInput)) _ > DateSerial(Year(dteInput), _ > Month(dteInput), Day(dteInput)) > DaysInMonth = intDays > Debug.Print intDays > End Function > The following Sub procedure shows several different ways that you might > call the > DaysInMonth function. > > Sub CallDaysInMonth() > Dim intDays As Integer > intDays = DaysInMonth(#4/1/96#) > intDays = DaysInMonth("4-1-96") > intDays = DaysInMonth("April 1, 1996") > End Sub > '================================================================ > > -----Original Message----- > From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Darren D > Sent: Friday, 18 July 2008 11:08 AM > To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' > Subject: Re: [AccessD] A2203: Date Format Issues > > > Thanks to all who responded > > I have edited my regional settings and still it fails > > I have had to capitulate and get the SQL built on the fly to have American > date > formatting > > arrrrggghhh > > Darren > > -----Original Message----- > From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Drew Wutka > Sent: Saturday, 12 July 2008 2:09 AM > To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving > Subject: Re: [AccessD] A2203: Date Format Issues > > Are you creating this SQL in code? If so, use DateSerial to 'put' the > date into the SQL and you'll never have a problem. > > Drew > > -----Original Message----- > From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Darren D > Sent: Friday, July 11, 2008 1:36 AM > To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' > Subject: [AccessD] A2203: Date Format Issues > > Hi Team > > I have a new machine - SO maybe this date question is a regional setting > issue > > > > Anyhow - I am trying to show all accounts created in a db since a > certain > date > > When I debug the recordsource SQL that is supposed to 'feed' the form I > see > > > > select * from tblAccount where DateCreated >= #4/07/2008# > > > > Excellent - Over here in Oz we want dd/mm/yyy date formatting > > So to me this SQL will show me all the accounts created since the 4th > July > 2008 > > But it does not > > It ends up showing me all the accounts created since 7th April > > > > Arrrgggghhhh > > > > I have made all the neseccary changes to regional settings > > > > Help please > > > > Darren > > > > -- > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > The information contained in this transmission is intended only for the > person > or entity to which it is addressed and may contain II-VI Proprietary > and/or > II-VI Business Sensitive material. 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No warranty is made > that > this material is free from computer virus or any other defect or error. > Any > loss/damage incurred by using this material is not the sender's > responsibility. > The sender's entire liability will be limited to resupplying the material. > > -- > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > -- > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > From darren at activebilling.com.au Thu Jul 17 20:40:17 2008 From: darren at activebilling.com.au (Darren D) Date: Fri, 18 Jul 2008 11:40:17 +1000 Subject: [AccessD] OT: A2203: Date Format Issues In-Reply-To: <002201c8e875$f0ea8c60$6401a8c0@DELLAPTOP> Message-ID: <200807180140.m6I1eG2p009763@databaseadvisors.com> Hi Kath Mongrel wasn't the first word I typed there and it certainly wasn't the first word spoken Re the yanks bit Shhhh - they are mostly asleep shhh Darren -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Kath Pelletti Sent: Friday, 18 July 2008 11:31 AM To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving Subject: Re: [AccessD] OT: A2203: Date Format Issues what an aussie thread..... both "yanks" and "mongrel" in the same message.... :) kath ----- Original Message ----- From: "Darren D" To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'" Sent: Friday, July 18, 2008 11:26 AM Subject: Re: [AccessD] A2203: Date Format Issues > Howdy > > Funny I did try it and yes that's what I ended up doing > I just used date serial to get the date 7 days ago in American format > mm/dd/yyyy > and then passed that to the SQL. When I used date serial to get the date > (less 7 > days) in to dd/mm/yyyy (Aussie format) the sql looked lovely in > debug.print yet > returned no results (when I knew there were some) when I applied it as the > form's SQL > > When I copied the sql from the immediate window and pasted it into the > Query > Designer in SQL mode - It pasted nice - Then I'd run it and get no results > then > I'd look at it in Query design mode and the mongrel had reversed the date > and > month right there in the query design window > > So in the immediate window I'd have > select * from tblAccount where datecreated >= #11/07/2008# <--pretty > herbal > > So I'd paste that into the SQL Query designer - it'd paste OK - then I'd > run it > - get no results - even though I know there are some - then I'd look at it > in > query design mode - see the month and date had been changed then look at > it > again in SQL view and see something like > > select * from tblAccount where tblAccount.datecreated >= #7/11/2008# > plus a few parenthesis - SO I just gave up and formatted the date like the > yanks > > > Many thanks > > Darren > > -----Original Message----- > From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Darryl Collins > Sent: Friday, 18 July 2008 11:16 AM > To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' > Subject: Re: [AccessD] A2203: Date Format Issues > > Hi Darren, > > Did you try Drews suggestion? > >>From Access Help: > > '======================================================== > DateSerial, Day, Month, and Year Function Examples > > The following example uses the DateSerial function together with the Year, > Month, and Day functions to return the number of days in a month. You can > pass > either a date or a string to the DaysInMonth function. > > Function DaysInMonth(dteInput As Date) As Integer > Dim intDays As Integer > > ' Add one month, subtract dates to find difference. > intDays = DateSerial(Year(dteInput), _ > Month(dteInput) + 1, Day(dteInput)) _ > DateSerial(Year(dteInput), _ > Month(dteInput), Day(dteInput)) > DaysInMonth = intDays > Debug.Print intDays > End Function > The following Sub procedure shows several different ways that you might > call the > DaysInMonth function. > > Sub CallDaysInMonth() > Dim intDays As Integer > intDays = DaysInMonth(#4/1/96#) > intDays = DaysInMonth("4-1-96") > intDays = DaysInMonth("April 1, 1996") > End Sub > '================================================================ > > -----Original Message----- > From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Darren D > Sent: Friday, 18 July 2008 11:08 AM > To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' > Subject: Re: [AccessD] A2203: Date Format Issues > > > Thanks to all who responded > > I have edited my regional settings and still it fails > > I have had to capitulate and get the SQL built on the fly to have American > date > formatting > > arrrrggghhh > > Darren > > -----Original Message----- > From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Drew Wutka > Sent: Saturday, 12 July 2008 2:09 AM > To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving > Subject: Re: [AccessD] A2203: Date Format Issues > > Are you creating this SQL in code? If so, use DateSerial to 'put' the > date into the SQL and you'll never have a problem. > > Drew > > -----Original Message----- > From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Darren D > Sent: Friday, July 11, 2008 1:36 AM > To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' > Subject: [AccessD] A2203: Date Format Issues > > Hi Team > > I have a new machine - SO maybe this date question is a regional setting > issue > > > > Anyhow - I am trying to show all accounts created in a db since a > certain > date > > When I debug the recordsource SQL that is supposed to 'feed' the form I > see > > > > select * from tblAccount where DateCreated >= #4/07/2008# > > > > Excellent - Over here in Oz we want dd/mm/yyy date formatting > > So to me this SQL will show me all the accounts created since the 4th > July > 2008 > > But it does not > > It ends up showing me all the accounts created since 7th April > > > > Arrrgggghhhh > > > > I have made all the neseccary changes to regional settings > > > > Help please > > > > Darren > > > > -- > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > The information contained in this transmission is intended only for the > person > or entity to which it is addressed and may contain II-VI Proprietary > and/or > II-VI Business Sensitive material. If you are not the intended recipient, > please > contact the sender immediately and destroy the material in its entirety, > whether > electronic or hard copy. You are notified that any review, retransmission, > copying, disclosure, dissemination, or other use of, or taking of any > action in > reliance upon this information by persons or entities other than the > intended > recipient is prohibited. > > > -- > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > -- > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > This email and any attachments may contain privileged and confidential > information and are intended for the named addressee only. If you have > received > this e-mail in error, please notify the sender and delete this e-mail > immediately. Any confidentiality, privilege or copyright is not waived or > lost > because this e-mail has been sent to you in error. It is your > responsibility to > check this e-mail and any attachments for viruses. No warranty is made > that > this material is free from computer virus or any other defect or error. > Any > loss/damage incurred by using this material is not the sender's > responsibility. > The sender's entire liability will be limited to resupplying the material. > > -- > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > -- > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From Darryl.Collins at coles.com.au Thu Jul 17 21:05:30 2008 From: Darryl.Collins at coles.com.au (Darryl Collins) Date: Fri, 18 Jul 2008 12:05:30 +1000 Subject: [AccessD] OT: A2203: Date Format Issues In-Reply-To: <200807180140.m6I1eG2p009763@databaseadvisors.com> Message-ID: <57E6E6CA42105A48B977303A2CDC2720076BF12D6B@WPEXCH22.retail.ad.cmltd.net.au> Heh.. "yanks" is better than the other slang term the Aussies use for the Americans, "septic (or seppo) - "American", short for septic tank, which rhymes with Yank." (http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/Appendix:Australian_rhyming_slang) ;) Naturally it is said in jest - just the usual droll aussie humour. cheers Darryl. -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Darren D Sent: Friday, 18 July 2008 11:40 AM To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' Subject: Re: [AccessD] OT: A2203: Date Format Issues Hi Kath Mongrel wasn't the first word I typed there and it certainly wasn't the first word spoken Re the yanks bit Shhhh - they are mostly asleep shhh Darren -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Kath Pelletti Sent: Friday, 18 July 2008 11:31 AM To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving Subject: Re: [AccessD] OT: A2203: Date Format Issues what an aussie thread..... both "yanks" and "mongrel" in the same message.... :) kath ----- Original Message ----- From: "Darren D" To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'" Sent: Friday, July 18, 2008 11:26 AM Subject: Re: [AccessD] A2203: Date Format Issues > Howdy > > Funny I did try it and yes that's what I ended up doing > I just used date serial to get the date 7 days ago in American format > mm/dd/yyyy > and then passed that to the SQL. When I used date serial to get the date > (less 7 > days) in to dd/mm/yyyy (Aussie format) the sql looked lovely in > debug.print yet > returned no results (when I knew there were some) when I applied it as the > form's SQL > > When I copied the sql from the immediate window and pasted it into the > Query > Designer in SQL mode - It pasted nice - Then I'd run it and get no results > then > I'd look at it in Query design mode and the mongrel had reversed the date > and > month right there in the query design window > > So in the immediate window I'd have > select * from tblAccount where datecreated >= #11/07/2008# <--pretty > herbal > > So I'd paste that into the SQL Query designer - it'd paste OK - then I'd > run it > - get no results - even though I know there are some - then I'd look at it > in > query design mode - see the month and date had been changed then look at > it > again in SQL view and see something like > > select * from tblAccount where tblAccount.datecreated >= #7/11/2008# > plus a few parenthesis - SO I just gave up and formatted the date like the > yanks > > > Many thanks > > Darren > > -----Original Message----- > From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Darryl Collins > Sent: Friday, 18 July 2008 11:16 AM > To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' > Subject: Re: [AccessD] A2203: Date Format Issues > > Hi Darren, > > Did you try Drews suggestion? > >>From Access Help: > > '======================================================== > DateSerial, Day, Month, and Year Function Examples > > The following example uses the DateSerial function together with the Year, > Month, and Day functions to return the number of days in a month. You can > pass > either a date or a string to the DaysInMonth function. > > Function DaysInMonth(dteInput As Date) As Integer > Dim intDays As Integer > > ' Add one month, subtract dates to find difference. > intDays = DateSerial(Year(dteInput), _ > Month(dteInput) + 1, Day(dteInput)) _ > DateSerial(Year(dteInput), _ > Month(dteInput), Day(dteInput)) > DaysInMonth = intDays > Debug.Print intDays > End Function > The following Sub procedure shows several different ways that you might > call the > DaysInMonth function. > > Sub CallDaysInMonth() > Dim intDays As Integer > intDays = DaysInMonth(#4/1/96#) > intDays = DaysInMonth("4-1-96") > intDays = DaysInMonth("April 1, 1996") > End Sub > '================================================================ > > -----Original Message----- > From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Darren D > Sent: Friday, 18 July 2008 11:08 AM > To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' > Subject: Re: [AccessD] A2203: Date Format Issues > > > Thanks to all who responded > > I have edited my regional settings and still it fails > > I have had to capitulate and get the SQL built on the fly to have American > date > formatting > > arrrrggghhh > > Darren > > -----Original Message----- > From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Drew Wutka > Sent: Saturday, 12 July 2008 2:09 AM > To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving > Subject: Re: [AccessD] A2203: Date Format Issues > > Are you creating this SQL in code? If so, use DateSerial to 'put' the > date into the SQL and you'll never have a problem. > > Drew > > -----Original Message----- > From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Darren D > Sent: Friday, July 11, 2008 1:36 AM > To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' > Subject: [AccessD] A2203: Date Format Issues > > Hi Team > > I have a new machine - SO maybe this date question is a regional setting > issue > > > > Anyhow - I am trying to show all accounts created in a db since a > certain > date > > When I debug the recordsource SQL that is supposed to 'feed' the form I > see > > > > select * from tblAccount where DateCreated >= #4/07/2008# > > > > Excellent - Over here in Oz we want dd/mm/yyy date formatting > > So to me this SQL will show me all the accounts created since the 4th > July > 2008 > > But it does not > > It ends up showing me all the accounts created since 7th April > > > > Arrrgggghhhh > > > > I have made all the neseccary changes to regional settings > > > > Help please > > > > Darren > > > > -- > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > The information contained in this transmission is intended only for the > person > or entity to which it is addressed and may contain II-VI Proprietary > and/or > II-VI Business Sensitive material. 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From accessd at shaw.ca Thu Jul 17 21:20:25 2008 From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence) Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2008 19:20:25 -0700 Subject: [AccessD] OT Kinda: New Computer In-Reply-To: References: <29f585dd0807170631k2ce66b67y54d7963f543ef3a2@mail.gmail.com> <000101c8e817$00c4abc0$2101a8c0@AB> Message-ID: <411921947C0046EF807A11998D9A09CD@creativesystemdesigns.com> Hi Mark: Some people I know have been buying Mac as they are cheap and powerful laptops. Then they install a program named Parallel which allows them to run Windows and Linux OS... and be able to copy files from one environment without issues. See a YourTube Intro at: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xHzOtfThd_4 Package costs about $70.00 HTH Jim -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Mark A Matte Sent: Thursday, July 17, 2008 8:39 AM To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving Subject: [AccessD] OT Kinda: New Computer Hello All, I'm getting ready to shop for a new computer. I'm thinking laptop. I've never owned a Mac...but a number of people are trying to talk me into it. I still wan't to do some Access work. I hear people talking about VM...and I've seen some dual boot machines. I'm kinda nervous about trying to run MS Access on a Mac...I just don't know enough? Any thoughts/advice/experience? Also, I think the ONLY reasons my friends are suggesting the Mac is for my photography hobby(even though I rarely edit the photos)...anyway... Anything is appreciated. Thanks, Mark A. Matte _________________________________________________________________ Time for vacation? WIN what you need- enter now! http://www.gowindowslive.com/summergiveaway/?ocid=tag_jlyhm -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From robert at webedb.com Thu Jul 17 21:11:05 2008 From: robert at webedb.com (Robert L. Stewart) Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2008 21:11:05 -0500 Subject: [AccessD] OT Kinda: New Computer In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <200807180213.m6I2DoFp029028@databaseadvisors.com> I have a Toshiba Tecra A9, 4 gb ram, 320 gb hard drive. I run VMs on it for almost everything. VMWare Workstation is what I use to create them. I have Win XP, Vista, and Win Server 2003 VMs. Personally, I would not go any other way now that I have tried it. I can now test any "beta" software or OS without worrying about my base OS. And, I can setup clients environments without having a new machine to do it. I have got rid of 4 desktops and a server since I started using VMs. I have know others that loaded Windows on Macs, but had trouble with them. I love the Tecra. The size, 15.4" and the weight are great. My previous machine was a desktop replacement 17" regular screen, not wide screen and it weighed over 15 lbs. Best thing about it was that it took 3.5" drives, so I could use a 750 gb drive in it. Robert At 08:40 PM 7/17/2008, you wrote: >From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com >[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Mark A Matte >Sent: Thursday, July 17, 2008 11:54 AM >To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving >Subject: Re: [AccessD] OT Kinda: New Computer > > >Gary, > >Thanks for the info. > >My entire decision is based on how MS Access will perform in these types >of configurations (VM or Dual Boot, etc). > >Most of the people making these suggestions are 'Mac' people...and they >do nothing but praise the 'Mac'. They claim I can use MS Access without >ANY issues through an emulator. Is this true? > >I don't want to start the Mac vs PC debate...just asking about >experience using MS Access on a Mac: > >Maybe...Virtual Machine, Dual Boot Mac/Windows, windows emulator, or >some other technique? > >Thanks Again, > >Mark A. Matte > From kp at sdsonline.net Thu Jul 17 21:24:49 2008 From: kp at sdsonline.net (Kath Pelletti) Date: Fri, 18 Jul 2008 12:24:49 +1000 Subject: [AccessD] OT: A2203: Date Format Issues References: <57E6E6CA42105A48B977303A2CDC2720076BF12D6B@WPEXCH22.retail.ad.cmltd.net.au> Message-ID: <000e01c8e87d$74927350$6401a8c0@DELLAPTOP> Ha - did you think I would take offence Darryl? I am from Melbourne! And I doubt the other listers will - pretty tame for AccessD - after all - :) Kath ----- Original Message ----- From: "Darryl Collins" To: "'Access Developers discussion and problemsolving'" Sent: Friday, July 18, 2008 12:05 PM Subject: Re: [AccessD] OT: A2203: Date Format Issues > Heh.. "yanks" is better than the other slang term the Aussies use for the > Americans, > > "septic (or seppo) - "American", short for septic tank, which rhymes with > Yank." > (http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/Appendix:Australian_rhyming_slang) > > ;) > > Naturally it is said in jest - just the usual droll aussie humour. > > cheers > Darryl. > > -----Original Message----- > From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Darren D > Sent: Friday, 18 July 2008 11:40 AM > To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' > Subject: Re: [AccessD] OT: A2203: Date Format Issues > > > Hi Kath > > Mongrel wasn't the first word I typed there and it certainly wasn't the > first > word spoken > > Re the yanks bit Shhhh - they are mostly asleep shhh > > Darren > > -----Original Message----- > From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Kath Pelletti > Sent: Friday, 18 July 2008 11:31 AM > To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving > Subject: Re: [AccessD] OT: A2203: Date Format Issues > > what an aussie thread..... both "yanks" and "mongrel" in the same > message.... :) > > kath > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Darren D" > To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'" > > Sent: Friday, July 18, 2008 11:26 AM > Subject: Re: [AccessD] A2203: Date Format Issues > > >> Howdy >> >> Funny I did try it and yes that's what I ended up doing >> I just used date serial to get the date 7 days ago in American format >> mm/dd/yyyy >> and then passed that to the SQL. When I used date serial to get the date >> (less 7 >> days) in to dd/mm/yyyy (Aussie format) the sql looked lovely in >> debug.print yet >> returned no results (when I knew there were some) when I applied it as >> the >> form's SQL >> >> When I copied the sql from the immediate window and pasted it into the >> Query >> Designer in SQL mode - It pasted nice - Then I'd run it and get no >> results >> then >> I'd look at it in Query design mode and the mongrel had reversed the date >> and >> month right there in the query design window >> >> So in the immediate window I'd have >> select * from tblAccount where datecreated >= #11/07/2008# <--pretty >> herbal >> >> So I'd paste that into the SQL Query designer - it'd paste OK - then I'd >> run it >> - get no results - even though I know there are some - then I'd look at >> it >> in >> query design mode - see the month and date had been changed then look at >> it >> again in SQL view and see something like >> >> select * from tblAccount where tblAccount.datecreated >= #7/11/2008# >> plus a few parenthesis - SO I just gave up and formatted the date like >> the >> yanks >> >> >> Many thanks >> >> Darren >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com >> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Darryl Collins >> Sent: Friday, 18 July 2008 11:16 AM >> To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' >> Subject: Re: [AccessD] A2203: Date Format Issues >> >> Hi Darren, >> >> Did you try Drews suggestion? >> >>>From Access Help: >> >> '======================================================== >> DateSerial, Day, Month, and Year Function Examples >> >> The following example uses the DateSerial function together with the >> Year, >> Month, and Day functions to return the number of days in a month. You can >> pass >> either a date or a string to the DaysInMonth function. >> >> Function DaysInMonth(dteInput As Date) As Integer >> Dim intDays As Integer >> >> ' Add one month, subtract dates to find difference. >> intDays = DateSerial(Year(dteInput), _ >> Month(dteInput) + 1, Day(dteInput)) _ >> DateSerial(Year(dteInput), _ >> Month(dteInput), Day(dteInput)) >> DaysInMonth = intDays >> Debug.Print intDays >> End Function >> The following Sub procedure shows several different ways that you might >> call the >> DaysInMonth function. >> >> Sub CallDaysInMonth() >> Dim intDays As Integer >> intDays = DaysInMonth(#4/1/96#) >> intDays = DaysInMonth("4-1-96") >> intDays = DaysInMonth("April 1, 1996") >> End Sub >> '================================================================ >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com >> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Darren D >> Sent: Friday, 18 July 2008 11:08 AM >> To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' >> Subject: Re: [AccessD] A2203: Date Format Issues >> >> >> Thanks to all who responded >> >> I have edited my regional settings and still it fails >> >> I have had to capitulate and get the SQL built on the fly to have >> American >> date >> formatting >> >> arrrrggghhh >> >> Darren >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com >> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Drew Wutka >> Sent: Saturday, 12 July 2008 2:09 AM >> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving >> Subject: Re: [AccessD] A2203: Date Format Issues >> >> Are you creating this SQL in code? If so, use DateSerial to 'put' the >> date into the SQL and you'll never have a problem. >> >> Drew >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com >> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Darren D >> Sent: Friday, July 11, 2008 1:36 AM >> To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' >> Subject: [AccessD] A2203: Date Format Issues >> >> Hi Team >> >> I have a new machine - SO maybe this date question is a regional setting >> issue >> >> >> >> Anyhow - I am trying to show all accounts created in a db since a >> certain >> date >> >> When I debug the recordsource SQL that is supposed to 'feed' the form I >> see >> >> >> >> select * from tblAccount where DateCreated >= #4/07/2008# >> >> >> >> Excellent - Over here in Oz we want dd/mm/yyy date formatting >> >> So to me this SQL will show me all the accounts created since the 4th >> July >> 2008 >> >> But it does not >> >> It ends up showing me all the accounts created since 7th April >> >> >> >> Arrrgggghhhh >> >> >> >> I have made all the neseccary changes to regional settings >> >> >> >> Help please >> >> >> >> Darren >> >> >> >> -- >> AccessD mailing list >> AccessD at databaseadvisors.com >> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd >> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com >> The information contained in this transmission is intended only for the >> person >> or entity to which it is addressed and may contain II-VI Proprietary >> and/or >> II-VI Business Sensitive material. 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The sender's entire liability will be > limited to resupplying the material. > > -- > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > From Darryl.Collins at coles.com.au Thu Jul 17 21:31:34 2008 From: Darryl.Collins at coles.com.au (Darryl Collins) Date: Fri, 18 Jul 2008 12:31:34 +1000 Subject: [AccessD] OT: A2203: Date Format Issues In-Reply-To: <000e01c8e87d$74927350$6401a8c0@DELLAPTOP> Message-ID: <57E6E6CA42105A48B977303A2CDC2720076BF12D6D@WPEXCH22.retail.ad.cmltd.net.au> hehehe.. Nah, not you Kath, but I figure this list is highly international and sometimes the context of these things get 'lost in translation' between cultures, time zones and languages. I would hate for any of our friends to think that we really felt that way about those pesky Americans (well most of them anyway... ) ;) -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Kath Pelletti Sent: Friday, 18 July 2008 12:25 PM To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving Subject: Re: [AccessD] OT: A2203: Date Format Issues Ha - did you think I would take offence Darryl? I am from Melbourne! And I doubt the other listers will - pretty tame for AccessD - after all - :) Kath ----- Original Message ----- From: "Darryl Collins" To: "'Access Developers discussion and problemsolving'" Sent: Friday, July 18, 2008 12:05 PM Subject: Re: [AccessD] OT: A2203: Date Format Issues > Heh.. "yanks" is better than the other slang term the Aussies use for the > Americans, > > "septic (or seppo) - "American", short for septic tank, which rhymes with > Yank." > (http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/Appendix:Australian_rhyming_slang) > > ;) > > Naturally it is said in jest - just the usual droll aussie humour. > > cheers > Darryl. > > -----Original Message----- > From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Darren D > Sent: Friday, 18 July 2008 11:40 AM > To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' > Subject: Re: [AccessD] OT: A2203: Date Format Issues > > > Hi Kath > > Mongrel wasn't the first word I typed there and it certainly wasn't the > first > word spoken > > Re the yanks bit Shhhh - they are mostly asleep shhh > > Darren > > -----Original Message----- > From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Kath Pelletti > Sent: Friday, 18 July 2008 11:31 AM > To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving > Subject: Re: [AccessD] OT: A2203: Date Format Issues > > what an aussie thread..... both "yanks" and "mongrel" in the same > message.... :) > > kath > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Darren D" > To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'" > > Sent: Friday, July 18, 2008 11:26 AM > Subject: Re: [AccessD] A2203: Date Format Issues > > >> Howdy >> >> Funny I did try it and yes that's what I ended up doing >> I just used date serial to get the date 7 days ago in American format >> mm/dd/yyyy >> and then passed that to the SQL. When I used date serial to get the date >> (less 7 >> days) in to dd/mm/yyyy (Aussie format) the sql looked lovely in >> debug.print yet >> returned no results (when I knew there were some) when I applied it as >> the >> form's SQL >> >> When I copied the sql from the immediate window and pasted it into the >> Query >> Designer in SQL mode - It pasted nice - Then I'd run it and get no >> results >> then >> I'd look at it in Query design mode and the mongrel had reversed the date >> and >> month right there in the query design window >> >> So in the immediate window I'd have >> select * from tblAccount where datecreated >= #11/07/2008# <--pretty >> herbal >> >> So I'd paste that into the SQL Query designer - it'd paste OK - then I'd >> run it >> - get no results - even though I know there are some - then I'd look at >> it >> in >> query design mode - see the month and date had been changed then look at >> it >> again in SQL view and see something like >> >> select * from tblAccount where tblAccount.datecreated >= #7/11/2008# >> plus a few parenthesis - SO I just gave up and formatted the date like >> the >> yanks >> >> >> Many thanks >> >> Darren >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com >> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Darryl Collins >> Sent: Friday, 18 July 2008 11:16 AM >> To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' >> Subject: Re: [AccessD] A2203: Date Format Issues >> >> Hi Darren, >> >> Did you try Drews suggestion? >> >>>From Access Help: >> >> '======================================================== >> DateSerial, Day, Month, and Year Function Examples >> >> The following example uses the DateSerial function together with the >> Year, >> Month, and Day functions to return the number of days in a month. You can >> pass >> either a date or a string to the DaysInMonth function. >> >> Function DaysInMonth(dteInput As Date) As Integer >> Dim intDays As Integer >> >> ' Add one month, subtract dates to find difference. >> intDays = DateSerial(Year(dteInput), _ >> Month(dteInput) + 1, Day(dteInput)) _ >> DateSerial(Year(dteInput), _ >> Month(dteInput), Day(dteInput)) >> DaysInMonth = intDays >> Debug.Print intDays >> End Function >> The following Sub procedure shows several different ways that you might >> call the >> DaysInMonth function. >> >> Sub CallDaysInMonth() >> Dim intDays As Integer >> intDays = DaysInMonth(#4/1/96#) >> intDays = DaysInMonth("4-1-96") >> intDays = DaysInMonth("April 1, 1996") >> End Sub >> '================================================================ >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com >> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Darren D >> Sent: Friday, 18 July 2008 11:08 AM >> To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' >> Subject: Re: [AccessD] A2203: Date Format Issues >> >> >> Thanks to all who responded >> >> I have edited my regional settings and still it fails >> >> I have had to capitulate and get the SQL built on the fly to have >> American >> date >> formatting >> >> arrrrggghhh >> >> Darren >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com >> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Drew Wutka >> Sent: Saturday, 12 July 2008 2:09 AM >> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving >> Subject: Re: [AccessD] A2203: Date Format Issues >> >> Are you creating this SQL in code? If so, use DateSerial to 'put' the >> date into the SQL and you'll never have a problem. >> >> Drew >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com >> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Darren D >> Sent: Friday, July 11, 2008 1:36 AM >> To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' >> Subject: [AccessD] A2203: Date Format Issues >> >> Hi Team >> >> I have a new machine - SO maybe this date question is a regional setting >> issue >> >> >> >> Anyhow - I am trying to show all accounts created in a db since a >> certain >> date >> >> When I debug the recordsource SQL that is supposed to 'feed' the form I >> see >> >> >> >> select * from tblAccount where DateCreated >= #4/07/2008# >> >> >> >> Excellent - Over here in Oz we want dd/mm/yyy date formatting >> >> So to me this SQL will show me all the accounts created since the 4th >> July >> 2008 >> >> But it does not >> >> It ends up showing me all the accounts created since 7th April >> >> >> >> Arrrgggghhhh >> >> >> >> I have made all the neseccary changes to regional settings >> >> >> >> Help please >> >> >> >> Darren >> >> >> >> -- >> AccessD mailing list >> AccessD at databaseadvisors.com >> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd >> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com >> The information contained in this transmission is intended only for the >> person >> or entity to which it is addressed and may contain II-VI Proprietary >> and/or >> II-VI Business Sensitive material. 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Any loss/damage incurred by using this material is not the sender's responsibility. The sender's entire liability will be limited to resupplying the material. From dbdoug at gmail.com Thu Jul 17 23:19:35 2008 From: dbdoug at gmail.com (Doug Steele) Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2008 21:19:35 -0700 Subject: [AccessD] OT Kinda: New Computer In-Reply-To: References: <29f585dd0807170631k2ce66b67y54d7963f543ef3a2@mail.gmail.com> <000101c8e817$00c4abc0$2101a8c0@AB> <4dd71a0c0807171051h539f622dn69de6b32e4f3eff2@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <4dd71a0c0807172119k74640fd7xe66076c48eb3c585@mail.gmail.com> Yes. VMWare Fusion is a program which loads virtual Windows sessions (actually virtual 'any operating system' sessions) inside the Mac OS. You get a window in the mac which has a complete Windows 'computer' inside it. It even makes the Windows load/close sound. You need to do a complete Windows install into an empty VM, then once you've done that you can copy the files, it seems, as often as you want. With 2 monitors, I have one with Windows on it and the other with the Mac OS. Note: I actually used VMWare Workstation on a Windows computer to create my first Windows XP Virtual Machine (as mentioned in another post), with a legitimate purchased Win XP Pro. I really like the Macbook, although I make my living from Microsoft Office products, mostly Access. Doug Steele On Thu, Jul 17, 2008 at 1:27 PM, Mark A Matte wrote: > > Doug, > > Please pardon my ignorance... > > You run a Mac OS...and then from there you run a VM ( or more than 1) > running windows? > > Thanks again, > > Mark A. Matte > > > From dbdoug at gmail.com Thu Jul 17 23:33:48 2008 From: dbdoug at gmail.com (Doug Steele) Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2008 21:33:48 -0700 Subject: [AccessD] OT Kinda: New Computer In-Reply-To: References: <29f585dd0807170631k2ce66b67y54d7963f543ef3a2@mail.gmail.com> <000101c8e817$00c4abc0$2101a8c0@AB> <4dd71a0c0807171051h539f622dn69de6b32e4f3eff2@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <4dd71a0c0807172133s41b88e3ha8304ee45e1a1e36@mail.gmail.com> Sorry, another note. I'm not an OS partisan, but running Windows XP Pro and MS Access (any version) in a VMWare Fusion virtual machine on my new Macbook (2.1Ghz Intel Core 2 Duo) is noticeably faster than Win XP/Access on my 18 month old Toshiba Intel T2650 1.6Ghz. WARNING: REALLY OT COMMENT FOLLOWS I can remember when running an IBM 360 in IBM 1401 emulation mode ran slower than the 1401. Doug Steele From Gustav at cactus.dk Fri Jul 18 03:53:51 2008 From: Gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock) Date: Fri, 18 Jul 2008 10:53:51 +0200 Subject: [AccessD] A2203: Date Format Issues Message-ID: Hi Darren Well, wasn't that what I told you? /gustav >>> darren at activebilling.com.au 18-07-2008 03:08 >>> Thanks to all who responded I have edited my regional settings and still it fails I have had to capitulate and get the SQL built on the fly to have American date formatting arrrrggghhh Darren From Gustav at cactus.dk Fri Jul 18 04:01:03 2008 From: Gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock) Date: Fri, 18 Jul 2008 11:01:03 +0200 Subject: [AccessD] A2203: Date Format Issues Message-ID: Hi Darryl This can be done a lot simpler. The trick is the day of zero which forces DateSerial to return the date before the first of the month. Public Function DaysInMonth(ByVal datDate As Date) As Integer ' Returns count of days of month of datDate. ' 2005-01-06. Cactus Data ApS, CPH. Dim intDays As Integer intDays = Day(DateSerial(Year(datDate), Month(datDate) + 1, 0)) DaysInMonth = intDays End Function /gustav >>> Darryl.Collins at coles.com.au 18-07-2008 03:15 >>> Hi Darren, Did you try Drews suggestion? >From Access Help: '======================================================== DateSerial, Day, Month, and Year Function Examples The following example uses the DateSerial function together with the Year, Month, and Day functions to return the number of days in a month. You can pass either a date or a string to the DaysInMonth function. Function DaysInMonth(dteInput As Date) As Integer Dim intDays As Integer ' Add one month, subtract dates to find difference. intDays = DateSerial(Year(dteInput), _ Month(dteInput) + 1, Day(dteInput)) _ DateSerial(Year(dteInput), _ Month(dteInput), Day(dteInput)) DaysInMonth = intDays Debug.Print intDays End Function The following Sub procedure shows several different ways that you might call the DaysInMonth function. Sub CallDaysInMonth() Dim intDays As Integer intDays = DaysInMonth(#4/1/96#) intDays = DaysInMonth("4-1-96") intDays = DaysInMonth("April 1, 1996") End Sub '================================================================ From Chester_Kaup at kindermorgan.com Fri Jul 18 07:56:03 2008 From: Chester_Kaup at kindermorgan.com (Kaup, Chester) Date: Fri, 18 Jul 2008 07:56:03 -0500 Subject: [AccessD] Query gives duplicate records In-Reply-To: <000101c8e860$50be4390$2101a8c0@AB> References: <0B2BF8524B73A248A2F1B81BA751ED3C058454E5@houex1.kindermorgan.com> <000101c8e860$50be4390$2101a8c0@AB> Message-ID: <0B2BF8524B73A248A2F1B81BA751ED3C05845531@houex1.kindermorgan.com> Works perfect. Once again thanks to the group. -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Asger Blond Sent: Thursday, July 17, 2008 5:56 PM To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' Subject: Re: [AccessD] Query gives duplicate records Chester, My previous posting had a closing parenthesis in the code, which should be omitted - This is supposed to work: INSERT INTO [tbl Wells on SCADA] (Wellname) SELECT DISTINCT [qry Water Injectors on SCADA].Wellname FROM [qry Water Injectors on SCADA] WHERE [qry Water Injectors on SCADA].Wellname NOT IN (SELECT Wellname FROM [tbl Wells on SCADA]); Asger -----Oprindelig meddelelse----- Fra: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] P? vegne af Kaup, Chester Sendt: 17. juli 2008 23:08 Til: Access Developers discussion and problem solving Emne: [AccessD] Query gives duplicate records This query asks for a value for [tbl Wells on SCADA]![Wellname]. INSERT INTO [tbl Wells on SCADA] ( Wellname ) SELECT DISTINCT [qry Water Injectors on SCADA].Wellname FROM [qry Water Injectors on SCADA] WHERE ((([qry Water Injectors on SCADA].Wellname)<>[tbl Wells on SCADA]![Wellname])); If I modify the query like this I don't get asked for [tbl Wells on SCADA]![Wellname] but I get duplicate records. INSERT INTO [tbl Wells on SCADA] ( Wellname ) SELECT DISTINCT [qry Water Injectors on SCADA].Wellname FROM [qry Water Injectors on SCADA], [tbl Wells on SCADA] WHERE ((([qry Water Injectors on SCADA].Wellname)<>[tbl Wells on SCADA]![Wellname])); What am I doing wrong here. Thanks. Chester Kaup Engineering Technician Kinder Morgan CO2 Company, LLP Office (432) 688-3797 FAX (432) 688-3799 No trees were killed in the sending of this message. However a large number of electrons were terribly inconvenienced. -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From iggy at nanaimo.ark.com Fri Jul 18 07:28:34 2008 From: iggy at nanaimo.ark.com (Tony Septav) Date: Fri, 18 Jul 2008 05:28:34 -0700 Subject: [AccessD] Application Title Bar Message-ID: <48808C72.1050301@nanaimo.ark.com> Hey All Is there way to remove a form's name from the application titlebar when it is maximized. I just want the application name to appear, not AppName - [FormName]. Thanks From rockysmolin at bchacc.com Fri Jul 18 09:27:20 2008 From: rockysmolin at bchacc.com (Rocky Smolin at Beach Access Software) Date: Fri, 18 Jul 2008 07:27:20 -0700 Subject: [AccessD] Application Title Bar In-Reply-To: <48808C72.1050301@nanaimo.ark.com> References: <48808C72.1050301@nanaimo.ark.com> Message-ID: <00cc01c8e8e2$65183f80$0301a8c0@HAL9005> Use the Caption property in the Format tab Form's property box. Rocky Smolin Beach Access Software 858-259-4334 www.e-z-mrp.com www.bchacc.com -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Tony Septav Sent: Friday, July 18, 2008 5:29 AM To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving Subject: [AccessD] Application Title Bar Hey All Is there way to remove a form's name from the application titlebar when it is maximized. I just want the application name to appear, not AppName - [FormName]. Thanks -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From iggy at nanaimo.ark.com Fri Jul 18 09:43:10 2008 From: iggy at nanaimo.ark.com (Tony Septav) Date: Fri, 18 Jul 2008 07:43:10 -0700 Subject: [AccessD] Application Title Bar In-Reply-To: <00cc01c8e8e2$65183f80$0301a8c0@HAL9005> References: <48808C72.1050301@nanaimo.ark.com> <00cc01c8e8e2$65183f80$0301a8c0@HAL9005> Message-ID: <4880ABFE.4050709@nanaimo.ark.com> Hey Rocky And do what? If you blank it out, then it displays in the application titlebar AppName - [] or AppName - [FormName . Form] Thanks Rocky Smolin at Beach Access Software wrote: >Use the Caption property in the Format tab Form's property box. > > >Rocky Smolin >Beach Access Software >858-259-4334 >www.e-z-mrp.com >www.bchacc.com > > > >-----Original Message----- >From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com >[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Tony Septav >Sent: Friday, July 18, 2008 5:29 AM >To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving >Subject: [AccessD] Application Title Bar > >Hey All >Is there way to remove a form's name from the application titlebar when it >is maximized. I just want the application name to appear, not AppName >- [FormName]. >Thanks >-- >AccessD mailing list >AccessD at databaseadvisors.com >http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd >Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > > From rockysmolin at bchacc.com Fri Jul 18 11:16:15 2008 From: rockysmolin at bchacc.com (Rocky Smolin at Beach Access Software) Date: Fri, 18 Jul 2008 09:16:15 -0700 Subject: [AccessD] Application Title Bar In-Reply-To: <4880ABFE.4050709@nanaimo.ark.com> References: <48808C72.1050301@nanaimo.ark.com><00cc01c8e8e2$65183f80$0301a8c0@HAL9005> <4880ABFE.4050709@nanaimo.ark.com> Message-ID: <000f01c8e8f1$9d9be0a0$0301a8c0@HAL9005> Seems no way around it. If it's blank it displays the form name. If not blank, displays whatever you put in there. If a single space you get that [ ]. You can go with db.Properties!AppTitle=" " but even there you're going to get the [ ]. And db.Properties!AppTitle="" give an error because the property can't be null. What do you want the app title to read? I usually put the name of the application up there with the current version and date setting it in the Startup dialog box. Rocky Smolin Beach Access Software 858-259-4334 www.e-z-mrp.com www.bchacc.com -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Tony Septav Sent: Friday, July 18, 2008 7:43 AM To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving Subject: Re: [AccessD] Application Title Bar Hey Rocky And do what? If you blank it out, then it displays in the application titlebar AppName - [] or AppName - [FormName . Form] Thanks Rocky Smolin at Beach Access Software wrote: >Use the Caption property in the Format tab Form's property box. > > >Rocky Smolin >Beach Access Software >858-259-4334 >www.e-z-mrp.com >www.bchacc.com > > > >-----Original Message----- >From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com >[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Tony Septav >Sent: Friday, July 18, 2008 5:29 AM >To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving >Subject: [AccessD] Application Title Bar > >Hey All >Is there way to remove a form's name from the application titlebar >when it is maximized. I just want the application name to appear, not >AppName >- [FormName]. >Thanks >-- >AccessD mailing list >AccessD at databaseadvisors.com >http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd >Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > > -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From adtp at airtelmail.in Fri Jul 18 11:24:17 2008 From: adtp at airtelmail.in (A.D.Tejpal) Date: Fri, 18 Jul 2008 21:54:17 +0530 Subject: [AccessD] Report printed or previewed References: <487F0A23.10901@mvps.org> Message-ID: <006201c8e8f2$e7db0780$5a5ea27a@personald6374f> Steve, One way for programmatic detection of report's open status (Print or Preview) could be by checking whether the print event of page header on page 2 has fired closely after Page event on page 1. Of course this presumes a report sized more than one page. Sample code in report's module, as given below, should be able to do the needful. Detecting print preview status could be somewhat trickier, as the report can sit on page 1 itself for a prolonged period. Thus we can not keep waiting for the print event on page 2 to fire. For tackling this situation, we can use form's Timer event. Sample code in form's module, as given below, in conjunction with the global variable in general module as shown, should be able to detect print preview status of the report. Best wishes, A.D.Tejpal ------------ ' Code in report's module '================================= ' Declarations section Private Tm As Long '-------------------------------------------------- Private Sub PageHeaderSection_Print(Cancel As Integer, PrintCount As Integer) If Me.Page = 2 Then ' Confirm firing of page feader print event ' on page 2 PgHdrPg2 = True ' If this event follows closely after Page ' event on page 1, it is Print Mode If Timer - Tm < 2 Then MsgBox "Report In Print Mode" End If End If End Sub '-------------------------------------------------- Private Sub Report_Page() If Me.Page = 1 Then ' Get the time when Page event on ' page 1 fires Tm = Timer ' Set default value for global variable. ' (signifies firing of page feader print ' event on page 2) PgHdrPg2 = False ' Set form level counter to 0 ' Start form's Timer Forms("F_Report").Ctr = 0 Forms("F_Report").TimerInterval = 500 End If End Sub '================================= ' Code in general module '================================= ' Declarations section ' Global variable confirming firing of page ' header print event on page 2 Public PgHdrPg2 As Boolean '================================= ' Code in form's module (Form F_Report) '================================= ' Declarations section ' Form Timer counter Public Ctr As Long '-------------------------------------------------- Private Sub Form_Timer() Ctr = Ctr + 1 If Ctr > 2 Then If PgHdrPg2 = False Then ' Page header print event of page 2 ' has failed to fire shortly after Page ' event of page 1. MsgBox "Report In Preview Mode" End If ' Reset the counter and close the Timer Ctr = 0 Me.TimerInterval = 0 End If End Sub '================================= ----- Original Message ----- From: Steve Schapel To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving Sent: Thursday, July 17, 2008 14:30 Subject: [AccessD] Report printed or previewed Does anyone know of a way to programmatically determine whether a report is being previewed or printed? Preferably for the report itself to be "serlf-aware" :-) i.e. on the report's Open or Load event some code to run conditional on whether it is being printed or opened in print preview? Regards Steve From markamatte at hotmail.com Fri Jul 18 11:27:49 2008 From: markamatte at hotmail.com (Mark A Matte) Date: Fri, 18 Jul 2008 16:27:49 +0000 Subject: [AccessD] Application Title Bar In-Reply-To: <000f01c8e8f1$9d9be0a0$0301a8c0@HAL9005> References: <48808C72.1050301@nanaimo.ark.com><00cc01c8e8e2$65183f80$0301a8c0@HAL9005> <4880ABFE.4050709@nanaimo.ark.com> <000f01c8e8f1$9d9be0a0$0301a8c0@HAL9005> Message-ID: This method is from an A97 app I had. What ever you want to read in the title bar...put on the forms caption property...then in the forms OnActivate event use the following: Dim intX As Integer intX = AddAppProperty("AppTitle", dbText, Me.Caption) RefreshTitleBar This should get you the effect you are looking for. Let me know if you have any questions. Thanks, Mark A. Matte > From: rockysmolin at bchacc.com > To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com > Date: Fri, 18 Jul 2008 09:16:15 -0700 > Subject: Re: [AccessD] Application Title Bar > > Seems no way around it. If it's blank it displays the form name. If not > blank, displays whatever you put in there. If a single space you get that [ > ]. > > You can go with db.Properties!AppTitle=" " but even there you're going to > get the [ ]. And db.Properties!AppTitle="" give an error because the > property can't be null. > > What do you want the app title to read? I usually put the name of the > application up there with the current version and date setting it in the > Startup dialog box. > > > > > Rocky Smolin > Beach Access Software > 858-259-4334 > www.e-z-mrp.com > www.bchacc.com > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Tony Septav > Sent: Friday, July 18, 2008 7:43 AM > To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving > Subject: Re: [AccessD] Application Title Bar > > Hey Rocky > And do what? If you blank it out, then it displays in the application > titlebar AppName - [] or AppName - [FormName . Form] Thanks > > Rocky Smolin at Beach Access Software wrote: > >>Use the Caption property in the Format tab Form's property box. >> >> >>Rocky Smolin >>Beach Access Software >>858-259-4334 >>www.e-z-mrp.com >>www.bchacc.com >> >> >> >>-----Original Message----- >>From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com >>[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Tony Septav >>Sent: Friday, July 18, 2008 5:29 AM >>To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving >>Subject: [AccessD] Application Title Bar >> >>Hey All >>Is there way to remove a form's name from the application titlebar >>when it is maximized. I just want the application name to appear, not >>AppName >>- [FormName]. >>Thanks >>-- >>AccessD mailing list >>AccessD at databaseadvisors.com >>http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd >>Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com >> >> >> > > -- > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > -- > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com _________________________________________________________________ Use video conversation to talk face-to-face with Windows Live Messenger. http://www.windowslive.com/messenger/connect_your_way.html?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_Refresh_messenger_video_072008 From rockysmolin at bchacc.com Fri Jul 18 11:35:36 2008 From: rockysmolin at bchacc.com (Rocky Smolin at Beach Access Software) Date: Fri, 18 Jul 2008 09:35:36 -0700 Subject: [AccessD] Application Title Bar In-Reply-To: References: <48808C72.1050301@nanaimo.ark.com><00cc01c8e8e2$65183f80$0301a8c0@HAL9005><4880ABFE.4050709@nanaimo.ark.com><000f01c8e8f1$9d9be0a0$0301a8c0@HAL9005> Message-ID: <001301c8e8f4$4e9793c0$0301a8c0@HAL9005> Is there a way to make the app title totally blank? Rocky Smolin Beach Access Software 858-259-4334 www.e-z-mrp.com www.bchacc.com -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Mark A Matte Sent: Friday, July 18, 2008 9:28 AM To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving Subject: Re: [AccessD] Application Title Bar This method is from an A97 app I had. What ever you want to read in the title bar...put on the forms caption property...then in the forms OnActivate event use the following: Dim intX As Integer intX = AddAppProperty("AppTitle", dbText, Me.Caption) RefreshTitleBar This should get you the effect you are looking for. Let me know if you have any questions. Thanks, Mark A. Matte > From: rockysmolin at bchacc.com > To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com > Date: Fri, 18 Jul 2008 09:16:15 -0700 > Subject: Re: [AccessD] Application Title Bar > > Seems no way around it. If it's blank it displays the form name. If > not blank, displays whatever you put in there. If a single space you > get that [ ]. > > You can go with db.Properties!AppTitle=" " but even there you're going > to get the [ ]. And db.Properties!AppTitle="" give an error because > the property can't be null. > > What do you want the app title to read? I usually put the name of the > application up there with the current version and date setting it in > the Startup dialog box. > > > > > Rocky Smolin > Beach Access Software > 858-259-4334 > www.e-z-mrp.com > www.bchacc.com > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Tony Septav > Sent: Friday, July 18, 2008 7:43 AM > To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving > Subject: Re: [AccessD] Application Title Bar > > Hey Rocky > And do what? If you blank it out, then it displays in the application > titlebar AppName - [] or AppName - [FormName . Form] Thanks > > Rocky Smolin at Beach Access Software wrote: > >>Use the Caption property in the Format tab Form's property box. >> >> >>Rocky Smolin >>Beach Access Software >>858-259-4334 >>www.e-z-mrp.com >>www.bchacc.com >> >> >> >>-----Original Message----- >>From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com >>[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Tony Septav >>Sent: Friday, July 18, 2008 5:29 AM >>To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving >>Subject: [AccessD] Application Title Bar >> >>Hey All >>Is there way to remove a form's name from the application titlebar >>when it is maximized. I just want the application name to appear, not >>AppName >>- [FormName]. >>Thanks >>-- >>AccessD mailing list >>AccessD at databaseadvisors.com >>http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd >>Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com >> >> >> > > -- > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > -- > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com _________________________________________________________________ Use video conversation to talk face-to-face with Windows Live Messenger. http://www.windowslive.com/messenger/connect_your_way.html?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL _Refresh_messenger_video_072008 -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From jwelz at hotmail.com Fri Jul 18 11:54:46 2008 From: jwelz at hotmail.com (Jurgen Welz) Date: Fri, 18 Jul 2008 10:54:46 -0600 Subject: [AccessD] A2203: Date Format Issues In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Thanks Gustav: I just replaced my old 'LastDayOfMonth' function using the 'trick' I had not learned previously.CiaoJ?rgen WelzEdmonton, Albertajwelz at hotmail.com> Date: Fri, 18 Jul 2008 11:01:03 +0200> From: Gustav at cactus.dk> To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com> Subject: Re: [AccessD] A2203: Date Format Issues> > Hi Darryl> > This can be done a lot simpler. The trick is the day of zero which forces DateSerial to return the date before the first of the month.> > > > Public Function DaysInMonth(ByVal datDate As Date) As Integer> > ' Returns count of days of month of datDate.> ' 2005-01-06. Cactus Data ApS, CPH.> > Dim intDays As Integer> > intDays = Day(DateSerial(Year(datDate), Month(datDate) + 1, 0))> DaysInMonth = intDays> > End Function> > > > /gustav _________________________________________________________________ Try Chicktionary, a game that tests how many words you can form from the letters given. Find this and more puzzles at Live Search Games! http://g.msn.ca/ca55/207 From rockysmolin at bchacc.com Fri Jul 18 11:56:09 2008 From: rockysmolin at bchacc.com (Rocky Smolin at Beach Access Software) Date: Fri, 18 Jul 2008 09:56:09 -0700 Subject: [AccessD] Renaming a field through code Message-ID: <001901c8e8f7$2dc265a0$0301a8c0@HAL9005> Dear List: Is is possible to rename a field in a linked table through code? MTIA Rocky Smolin Beach Access Software 858-259-4334 www.e-z-mrp.com www.bchacc.com From iggy at nanaimo.ark.com Fri Jul 18 11:57:57 2008 From: iggy at nanaimo.ark.com (Tony Septav) Date: Fri, 18 Jul 2008 09:57:57 -0700 Subject: [AccessD] Application TitleBar Message-ID: <4880CB95.8030306@nanaimo.ark.com> Hey Rocky I just want the name of my application to appear, not the maximized form name or form caption in []. Hey Matte Tried it, but I get the same thing sort of. AppName - [Form.caption] If I leave the application blank then I get Microsoft Access - [Form.caption] From bill_patten at embarqmail.com Fri Jul 18 12:13:52 2008 From: bill_patten at embarqmail.com (Bill Patten) Date: Fri, 18 Jul 2008 10:13:52 -0700 Subject: [AccessD] Renaming a field through code In-Reply-To: <001901c8e8f7$2dc265a0$0301a8c0@HAL9005> References: <001901c8e8f7$2dc265a0$0301a8c0@HAL9005> Message-ID: Rocky, I have a routine that I got from you back in 2005, "mod_ModifyTablesFEorBE" that I believe will do that. I can send it to you if you want. Copy of your notes: ********************** Never mind. Figured it out. I have the name and path of the linked database in a global variable already. So: Set wrk = DBEngine.Workspaces(0) Set Db = wrk.OpenDatabase(gstrDatabaseName) Dim strSql As String strSql = "ALTER TABLE tblPODetail ALTER COLUMN fldPODPartDescription TEXT(255);" Db.Execute strSql, dbFailOnError works. Rocky ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software" ***************************** Bill ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rocky Smolin at Beach Access Software" To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'" Sent: Friday, July 18, 2008 9:56 AM Subject: [AccessD] Renaming a field through code Dear List: Is is possible to rename a field in a linked table through code? MTIA Rocky Smolin Beach Access Software 858-259-4334 www.e-z-mrp.com www.bchacc.com -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From rockysmolin at bchacc.com Fri Jul 18 12:22:21 2008 From: rockysmolin at bchacc.com (Rocky Smolin at Beach Access Software) Date: Fri, 18 Jul 2008 10:22:21 -0700 Subject: [AccessD] Renaming a field through code In-Reply-To: References: <001901c8e8f7$2dc265a0$0301a8c0@HAL9005> Message-ID: <002601c8e8fa$d6b9d4b0$0301a8c0@HAL9005> Bill: That will change the length of the field. But I need to change the name. I consulted SQL: Access to SQL Server (by a couple of notorious Apress authors) - under the ALTER info but there doesn't appear to be a SQL command for this. IIRC, there was a thread a long time ago to the effect that you had to add a new field with the new name, copy all the data from the old field to the new field, and then delete the old field. But I'm hoping I'm disremembering that and that there's a method now to rename a field. Rocky Smolin Beach Access Software 858-259-4334 www.e-z-mrp.com www.bchacc.com -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Bill Patten Sent: Friday, July 18, 2008 10:14 AM To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving Subject: Re: [AccessD] Renaming a field through code Rocky, I have a routine that I got from you back in 2005, "mod_ModifyTablesFEorBE" that I believe will do that. I can send it to you if you want. Copy of your notes: ********************** Never mind. Figured it out. I have the name and path of the linked database in a global variable already. So: Set wrk = DBEngine.Workspaces(0) Set Db = wrk.OpenDatabase(gstrDatabaseName) Dim strSql As String strSql = "ALTER TABLE tblPODetail ALTER COLUMN fldPODPartDescription TEXT(255);" Db.Execute strSql, dbFailOnError works. Rocky ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software" ***************************** Bill ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rocky Smolin at Beach Access Software" To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'" Sent: Friday, July 18, 2008 9:56 AM Subject: [AccessD] Renaming a field through code Dear List: Is is possible to rename a field in a linked table through code? MTIA Rocky Smolin Beach Access Software 858-259-4334 www.e-z-mrp.com www.bchacc.com -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From jwelz at hotmail.com Fri Jul 18 12:32:03 2008 From: jwelz at hotmail.com (Jurgen Welz) Date: Fri, 18 Jul 2008 11:32:03 -0600 Subject: [AccessD] Renaming a field through code In-Reply-To: <001901c8e8f7$2dc265a0$0301a8c0@HAL9005> References: <001901c8e8f7$2dc265a0$0301a8c0@HAL9005> Message-ID: You can't change it in a linked table, but you can open the database and change a field name with DAO. I just ran the bit of code below and it renamed the field in the source database. Dim db As DAO.Database Dim tbl As DAO.TableDef Dim fld As DAO.Field Set db = OpenDatabase("S:\GOM\OmDataBackUp 080621.mdb") Set tbl = db.TableDefs("tblCompany") Set fld = tbl.Fields(3) fld.Name = "HorseManure" Is there any reason you can't just use an alias? Changing field names on the fly in a multi user environment could cause some problems. Ciao J?rgen Welz Edmonton, Alberta jwelz at hotmail.com > From: rockysmolin at bchacc.com > To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com > Date: Fri, 18 Jul 2008 09:56:09 -0700 > Subject: [AccessD] Renaming a field through code > > Dear List: > > Is is possible to rename a field in a linked table through code? > > MTIA > > > > > > Rocky Smolin > > Beach Access Software > > 858-259-4334 > > www.e-z-mrp.com > > www.bchacc.com > > > > > > > -- > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com _________________________________________________________________ Try Chicktionary, a game that tests how many words you can form from the letters given. Find this and more puzzles at Live Search Games! http://g.msn.ca/ca55/207 From fuller.artful at gmail.com Fri Jul 18 12:32:54 2008 From: fuller.artful at gmail.com (Arthur Fuller) Date: Fri, 18 Jul 2008 14:32:54 -0300 Subject: [AccessD] Renaming a field through code In-Reply-To: <002601c8e8fa$d6b9d4b0$0301a8c0@HAL9005> References: <001901c8e8f7$2dc265a0$0301a8c0@HAL9005> <002601c8e8fa$d6b9d4b0$0301a8c0@HAL9005> Message-ID: <29f585dd0807181032q1589f607ud5d339cc3f7ffad1@mail.gmail.com> I don't think it can be done. I just ran a couple of experiments and while not definitive they lead me to conclude that you cannot do much of anything to a linked table. Arthur On Fri, Jul 18, 2008 at 2:22 PM, Rocky Smolin at Beach Access Software < rockysmolin at bchacc.com> wrote: > Bill: > > That will change the length of the field. But I need to change the name. > > I consulted SQL: Access to SQL Server (by a couple of notorious Apress > authors) - under the ALTER info but there doesn't appear to be a SQL > command > for this. > > IIRC, there was a thread a long time ago to the effect that you had to add > a > new field with the new name, copy all the data from the old field to the > new > field, and then delete the old field. But I'm hoping I'm disremembering > that and that there's a method now to rename a field. > > > Rocky Smolin > Beach Access Software > 858-259-4334 > www.e-z-mrp.com > www.bchacc.com > From bill_patten at embarqmail.com Fri Jul 18 12:36:24 2008 From: bill_patten at embarqmail.com (Bill Patten) Date: Fri, 18 Jul 2008 10:36:24 -0700 Subject: [AccessD] Renaming a field through code In-Reply-To: <002601c8e8fa$d6b9d4b0$0301a8c0@HAL9005> References: <001901c8e8f7$2dc265a0$0301a8c0@HAL9005> <002601c8e8fa$d6b9d4b0$0301a8c0@HAL9005> Message-ID: <9358CF756F7C42699725E828C4CF1271@BPCS> Here is the ChangeFieldName function from that module: I think it would work. Bill Function ChangeFieldName(TblName As String, OldFldName As String, NewFldName As String) Dim Td As TableDef Dim db As Database Dim DbPath As Variant Dim FldPos As Integer Dim rs As Recordset Dim IdxName As String 'get back end path of linked table DbPath = DLookup("Database", "MSysObjects", "Name='" & TblName & "' And Type=6") If IsNull(DbPath) Then Set db = CurrentDb 'if local table Else Set db = OpenDatabase(DbPath) 'if linked table If Err <> 0 Then 'failed to open back end database Exit Function End If 'in case back end has different table name than front end TblName = DLookup("ForeignName", "MSysObjects", "Name='" & TblName & "' And Type=6") End If 'get table Set Td = db.TableDefs(TblName) If Err <> 0 Then 'failed to get table GoTo Done End If 'change field name Td.Fields(OldFldName).Name = NewFldName ChangeFieldName = True 'defaults to false if it fails to get here Done: If Not db Is Nothing Then db.Close End Function ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rocky Smolin at Beach Access Software" To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'" Sent: Friday, July 18, 2008 10:22 AM Subject: Re: [AccessD] Renaming a field through code Bill: That will change the length of the field. But I need to change the name. I consulted SQL: Access to SQL Server (by a couple of notorious Apress authors) - under the ALTER info but there doesn't appear to be a SQL command for this. IIRC, there was a thread a long time ago to the effect that you had to add a new field with the new name, copy all the data from the old field to the new field, and then delete the old field. But I'm hoping I'm disremembering that and that there's a method now to rename a field. Rocky Smolin Beach Access Software 858-259-4334 www.e-z-mrp.com www.bchacc.com -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Bill Patten Sent: Friday, July 18, 2008 10:14 AM To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving Subject: Re: [AccessD] Renaming a field through code Rocky, I have a routine that I got from you back in 2005, "mod_ModifyTablesFEorBE" that I believe will do that. I can send it to you if you want. Copy of your notes: ********************** Never mind. Figured it out. I have the name and path of the linked database in a global variable already. So: Set wrk = DBEngine.Workspaces(0) Set Db = wrk.OpenDatabase(gstrDatabaseName) Dim strSql As String strSql = "ALTER TABLE tblPODetail ALTER COLUMN fldPODPartDescription TEXT(255);" Db.Execute strSql, dbFailOnError works. Rocky ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software" ***************************** Bill ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rocky Smolin at Beach Access Software" To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'" Sent: Friday, July 18, 2008 9:56 AM Subject: [AccessD] Renaming a field through code Dear List: Is is possible to rename a field in a linked table through code? MTIA Rocky Smolin Beach Access Software 858-259-4334 www.e-z-mrp.com www.bchacc.com -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From Chester_Kaup at kindermorgan.com Fri Jul 18 12:55:50 2008 From: Chester_Kaup at kindermorgan.com (Kaup, Chester) Date: Fri, 18 Jul 2008 12:55:50 -0500 Subject: [AccessD] Renaming a field through code In-Reply-To: <001901c8e8f7$2dc265a0$0301a8c0@HAL9005> References: <001901c8e8f7$2dc265a0$0301a8c0@HAL9005> Message-ID: <0B2BF8524B73A248A2F1B81BA751ED3C058455B9@houex1.kindermorgan.com> I don't know if you can do it in code or not but I did find an old pass thru query that was supposed to rename a field in an SQL server table. It was in a test DB so cannot recall if it worked or not but anyway here it is. EXEC sp_rename 'dbo_SurfaceMaster.UWI', 'API10', 'COLUMN'; -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Rocky Smolin at Beach Access Software Sent: Friday, July 18, 2008 11:56 AM To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' Subject: [AccessD] Renaming a field through code Dear List: Is is possible to rename a field in a linked table through code? MTIA Rocky Smolin Beach Access Software 858-259-4334 www.e-z-mrp.com www.bchacc.com -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From rockysmolin at bchacc.com Fri Jul 18 13:03:00 2008 From: rockysmolin at bchacc.com (Rocky Smolin at Beach Access Software) Date: Fri, 18 Jul 2008 11:03:00 -0700 Subject: [AccessD] Renaming a field through code In-Reply-To: <9358CF756F7C42699725E828C4CF1271@BPCS> References: <001901c8e8f7$2dc265a0$0301a8c0@HAL9005><002601c8e8fa$d6b9d4b0$0301a8c0@HAL9005> <9358CF756F7C42699725E828C4CF1271@BPCS> Message-ID: <003301c8e900$8425ca00$0301a8c0@HAL9005> Bill: That worked! Thank you. Best, Rocky Smolin Beach Access Software 858-259-4334 www.e-z-mrp.com www.bchacc.com -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Bill Patten Sent: Friday, July 18, 2008 10:36 AM To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving Subject: Re: [AccessD] Renaming a field through code Here is the ChangeFieldName function from that module: I think it would work. Bill Function ChangeFieldName(TblName As String, OldFldName As String, NewFldName As String) Dim Td As TableDef Dim db As Database Dim DbPath As Variant Dim FldPos As Integer Dim rs As Recordset Dim IdxName As String 'get back end path of linked table DbPath = DLookup("Database", "MSysObjects", "Name='" & TblName & "' And Type=6") If IsNull(DbPath) Then Set db = CurrentDb 'if local table Else Set db = OpenDatabase(DbPath) 'if linked table If Err <> 0 Then 'failed to open back end database Exit Function End If 'in case back end has different table name than front end TblName = DLookup("ForeignName", "MSysObjects", "Name='" & TblName & "' And Type=6") End If 'get table Set Td = db.TableDefs(TblName) If Err <> 0 Then 'failed to get table GoTo Done End If 'change field name Td.Fields(OldFldName).Name = NewFldName ChangeFieldName = True 'defaults to false if it fails to get here Done: If Not db Is Nothing Then db.Close End Function ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rocky Smolin at Beach Access Software" To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'" Sent: Friday, July 18, 2008 10:22 AM Subject: Re: [AccessD] Renaming a field through code Bill: That will change the length of the field. But I need to change the name. I consulted SQL: Access to SQL Server (by a couple of notorious Apress authors) - under the ALTER info but there doesn't appear to be a SQL command for this. IIRC, there was a thread a long time ago to the effect that you had to add a new field with the new name, copy all the data from the old field to the new field, and then delete the old field. But I'm hoping I'm disremembering that and that there's a method now to rename a field. Rocky Smolin Beach Access Software 858-259-4334 www.e-z-mrp.com www.bchacc.com -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Bill Patten Sent: Friday, July 18, 2008 10:14 AM To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving Subject: Re: [AccessD] Renaming a field through code Rocky, I have a routine that I got from you back in 2005, "mod_ModifyTablesFEorBE" that I believe will do that. I can send it to you if you want. Copy of your notes: ********************** Never mind. Figured it out. I have the name and path of the linked database in a global variable already. So: Set wrk = DBEngine.Workspaces(0) Set Db = wrk.OpenDatabase(gstrDatabaseName) Dim strSql As String strSql = "ALTER TABLE tblPODetail ALTER COLUMN fldPODPartDescription TEXT(255);" Db.Execute strSql, dbFailOnError works. Rocky ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software" ***************************** Bill ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rocky Smolin at Beach Access Software" To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'" Sent: Friday, July 18, 2008 9:56 AM Subject: [AccessD] Renaming a field through code Dear List: Is is possible to rename a field in a linked table through code? MTIA Rocky Smolin Beach Access Software 858-259-4334 www.e-z-mrp.com www.bchacc.com -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From a2965z-nonprofit at yahoo.com Fri Jul 18 13:55:12 2008 From: a2965z-nonprofit at yahoo.com (a2965z-nonprofit at yahoo.com) Date: Fri, 18 Jul 2008 11:55:12 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [AccessD] Help with a Select Query Message-ID: <335433.79318.qm@web31811.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Hello, I have a client for whom I have created a simple query that returns either a home or work record if they reside within a specific district. In other words they select home or work then enter the desired district. All is well so far. The district consists of two digits 01 - 64 followed by either an 'A' or 'B'. Right now the client can request either A or B (because it's part of the district) but they would also like to be able to request both A and B. I'm really new at this and I'm wondering if there's a simple way to modify the query so they can designate either A or B or Both. The district field is three characters ##A or ##B. Each has its own district ID. Thanks, Cynthia From mikedorism at verizon.net Fri Jul 18 14:09:17 2008 From: mikedorism at verizon.net (Doris Manning) Date: Fri, 18 Jul 2008 15:09:17 -0400 Subject: [AccessD] Help with a Select Query In-Reply-To: <335433.79318.qm@web31811.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <335433.79318.qm@web31811.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <001101c8e909$c813d6e0$2d01a8c0@Kermit> Why not do a LIKE search and put in a wild card character after the district (example: ##* for Access... ##% for SQL Server). Doris Manning Database Administrator Hargrove Inc. -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of a2965z-nonprofit at yahoo.com Sent: Friday, July 18, 2008 2:55 PM To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: [AccessD] Help with a Select Query Hello, I have a client for whom I have created a simple query that returns either a home or work record if they reside within a specific district. In other words they select home or work then enter the desired district. All is well so far. The district consists of two digits 01 - 64 followed by either an 'A' or 'B'. Right now the client can request either A or B (because it's part of the district) but they would also like to be able to request both A and B. I'm really new at this and I'm wondering if there's a simple way to modify the query so they can designate either A or B or Both. The district field is three characters ##A or ##B. Each has its own district ID. Thanks, Cynthia -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From garykjos at gmail.com Fri Jul 18 14:51:36 2008 From: garykjos at gmail.com (Gary Kjos) Date: Fri, 18 Jul 2008 14:51:36 -0500 Subject: [AccessD] Help with a Select Query In-Reply-To: <335433.79318.qm@web31811.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <335433.79318.qm@web31811.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Hi Cynthia, As Doris said, perhaps a Like criteria would to the trick for both A and B if they want them. (Like "64*") But with only A and B as options you might not be too bad off just having them enter "64A" or "64B" in there too. You can list multiple criteria values in there seperated with ORs. GK On 7/18/08, a2965z-nonprofit at yahoo.com wrote: > Hello, > I have a client for whom I have created a simple query that returns either a home or work record if they reside within a specific district. In other words they select home or work then enter the desired district. All is well so far. The district consists of two digits 01 - 64 followed by either an 'A' or 'B'. Right now the client can request either A or B (because it's part of the district) but they would also like to be able to request both A and B. I'm really new at this and I'm wondering if there's a simple way to modify the query so they can designate either A or B or Both. The district field is three characters ##A or ##B. Each has its own district ID. > Thanks, > Cynthia > -- > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > -- Gary Kjos garykjos at gmail.com From iggy at nanaimo.ark.com Fri Jul 18 15:05:28 2008 From: iggy at nanaimo.ark.com (Tony Septav) Date: Fri, 18 Jul 2008 13:05:28 -0700 Subject: [AccessD] Application TitleBar Message-ID: <4880F788.8040400@nanaimo.ark.com> Hey All Sent this earlier, but I have not seen it appearing on my end, so I will try again Thanks kindly to both of you. Hey Rocky I just want the name of my application to appear, not the maximized form name or form caption in []. Hey Matte Tried it, but I get the same thing sort of. AppName - [Form.caption] If I leave the application blank then I get Microsoft Access - [Form.caption] From markamatte at hotmail.com Fri Jul 18 16:18:16 2008 From: markamatte at hotmail.com (Mark A Matte) Date: Fri, 18 Jul 2008 21:18:16 +0000 Subject: [AccessD] Application TitleBar In-Reply-To: <4880F788.8040400@nanaimo.ark.com> References: <4880F788.8040400@nanaimo.ark.com> Message-ID: Tony, I see the what you mean...I went back and looked atmyold app...the form was not maximized...it was just large without a border. The only thing I have found...is you can control the forms size/position with code...and not actually maximizethe form. Wish I could be more help. Sorry, Mark A. Matte ---------------------------------------- > Date: Fri, 18 Jul 2008 13:05:28 -0700 > From: iggy at nanaimo.ark.com > To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com > Subject: [AccessD] Application TitleBar > > Hey All > > Sent this earlier, but I have not seen it appearing on my end, so I will > try again > > Thanks kindly to both of you. > > Hey Rocky > I just want the name of my application to appear, not the maximized form > name or form caption in []. > > Hey Matte > Tried it, but I get the same thing sort of. > AppName - [Form.caption] > If I leave the application blank then I get Microsoft Access - > [Form.caption] > > -- > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com _________________________________________________________________ Time for vacation? WIN what you need- enter now! http://www.gowindowslive.com/summergiveaway/?ocid=tag_jlyhm From Darryl.Collins at coles.com.au Fri Jul 18 19:59:56 2008 From: Darryl.Collins at coles.com.au (Darryl Collins) Date: Sat, 19 Jul 2008 10:59:56 +1000 Subject: [AccessD] A2203: Date Format Issues In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <57E6E6CA42105A48B977303A2CDC2720076BF12D7C@WPEXCH22.retail.ad.cmltd.net.au> "This can be done a lot simpler." hehe, thanks heaps for that Gustav. Frankly I am not at all suprised that the Help example is clunky. I am constantly suprised at how convoluted some of the code examples (and auto generated code) is that microsoft produces - I mean, they folks wrote the book, you would think they would do it more elegantly than anyone else, but no. Almost like they want it to be stupidly complex. hmmmm. cheers Darryl -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Gustav Brock Sent: Friday, 18 July 2008 7:01 PM To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: Re: [AccessD] A2203: Date Format Issues Hi Darryl This can be done a lot simpler. The trick is the day of zero which forces DateSerial to return the date before the first of the month. Public Function DaysInMonth(ByVal datDate As Date) As Integer ' Returns count of days of month of datDate. ' 2005-01-06. Cactus Data ApS, CPH. Dim intDays As Integer intDays = Day(DateSerial(Year(datDate), Month(datDate) + 1, 0)) DaysInMonth = intDays End Function /gustav >>> Darryl.Collins at coles.com.au 18-07-2008 03:15 >>> Hi Darren, Did you try Drews suggestion? >From Access Help: '======================================================== DateSerial, Day, Month, and Year Function Examples The following example uses the DateSerial function together with the Year, Month, and Day functions to return the number of days in a month. You can pass either a date or a string to the DaysInMonth function. Function DaysInMonth(dteInput As Date) As Integer Dim intDays As Integer ' Add one month, subtract dates to find difference. intDays = DateSerial(Year(dteInput), _ Month(dteInput) + 1, Day(dteInput)) _ DateSerial(Year(dteInput), _ Month(dteInput), Day(dteInput)) DaysInMonth = intDays Debug.Print intDays End Function The following Sub procedure shows several different ways that you might call the DaysInMonth function. Sub CallDaysInMonth() Dim intDays As Integer intDays = DaysInMonth(#4/1/96#) intDays = DaysInMonth("4-1-96") intDays = DaysInMonth("April 1, 1996") End Sub '================================================================ -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com This email and any attachments may contain privileged and confidential information and are intended for the named addressee only. If you have received this e-mail in error, please notify the sender and delete this e-mail immediately. Any confidentiality, privilege or copyright is not waived or lost because this e-mail has been sent to you in error. It is your responsibility to check this e-mail and any attachments for viruses. No warranty is made that this material is free from computer virus or any other defect or error. Any loss/damage incurred by using this material is not the sender's responsibility. The sender's entire liability will be limited to resupplying the material. From stuart at lexacorp.com.pg Fri Jul 18 21:01:31 2008 From: stuart at lexacorp.com.pg (Stuart McLachlan) Date: Sat, 19 Jul 2008 12:01:31 +1000 Subject: [AccessD] A2203: Date Format Issues In-Reply-To: <57E6E6CA42105A48B977303A2CDC2720076BF12D7C@WPEXCH22.retail.ad.cmltd.net.au> References: Message-ID: <4881D79B.17516.16821831@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg> That's because NorthWind.mdb, Help files, code examples and auto-generated code tend to be written by junior interns. See http://www.microsoft.com/college/ip_overview.mspx On 19 Jul 2008 at 10:59, Darryl Collins wrote: > > "This can be done a lot simpler." hehe, thanks heaps for that Gustav. > Frankly I am not at all suprised that the Help example is clunky. I am > constantly suprised at how convoluted some of the code examples (and > auto generated code) is that microsoft produces - I mean, they folks > wrote the book, you would think they would do it more elegantly than > anyone else, but no. Almost like they want it to be stupidly complex. > hmmmm. > > cheers > Darryl > > -----Original Message----- > From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Gustav Brock > Sent: Friday, 18 July 2008 7:01 PM > To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com > Subject: Re: [AccessD] A2203: Date Format Issues > > > Hi Darryl > > This can be done a lot simpler. The trick is the day of zero which > forces DateSerial to return the date before the first of the month. > > > > Public Function DaysInMonth(ByVal datDate As Date) As Integer > > ' Returns count of days of month of datDate. > ' 2005-01-06. Cactus Data ApS, CPH. > > Dim intDays As Integer > > intDays = Day(DateSerial(Year(datDate), Month(datDate) + 1, 0)) > DaysInMonth = intDays > > End Function > > > > /gustav > > > >>> Darryl.Collins at coles.com.au 18-07-2008 03:15 >>> > Hi Darren, > > Did you try Drews suggestion? > > >From Access Help: > > '======================================================== > DateSerial, Day, Month, and Year Function Examples > > The following example uses the DateSerial function together with the Year, Month, and Day functions to return the number of days in a month. You can pass either a date or a string to the DaysInMonth function. > > Function DaysInMonth(dteInput As Date) As Integer > Dim intDays As Integer > > ' Add one month, subtract dates to find difference. > intDays = DateSerial(Year(dteInput), _ > Month(dteInput) + 1, Day(dteInput)) _ > DateSerial(Year(dteInput), _ > Month(dteInput), Day(dteInput)) > DaysInMonth = intDays > Debug.Print intDays > End Function > The following Sub procedure shows several different ways that you might call the DaysInMonth function. > > Sub CallDaysInMonth() > Dim intDays As Integer > intDays = DaysInMonth(#4/1/96#) > intDays = DaysInMonth("4-1-96") > intDays = DaysInMonth("April 1, 1996") > End Sub > '================================================================ > > > > -- > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > This email and any attachments may contain privileged and confidential information and are intended for the named addressee only. 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The sender's entire liability will be limited to resupplying the material. > > -- > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From fuller.artful at gmail.com Sat Jul 19 03:29:23 2008 From: fuller.artful at gmail.com (Arthur Fuller) Date: Sat, 19 Jul 2008 05:29:23 -0300 Subject: [AccessD] A2203: Date Format Issues In-Reply-To: <4881D79B.17516.16821831@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg> References: <57E6E6CA42105A48B977303A2CDC2720076BF12D7C@WPEXCH22.retail.ad.cmltd.net.au> <4881D79B.17516.16821831@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg> Message-ID: <29f585dd0807190129r7064250cm5392995b9c8845bf@mail.gmail.com> Well AdventureWorks certainly wasn't. A. On Fri, Jul 18, 2008 at 11:01 PM, Stuart McLachlan wrote: > That's because NorthWind.mdb, Help files, code examples and auto-generated > code tend > to be written by junior interns. > > See http://www.microsoft.com/college/ip_overview.mspx > > > From jimdettman at verizon.net Sat Jul 19 04:54:34 2008 From: jimdettman at verizon.net (Jim Dettman) Date: Sat, 19 Jul 2008 05:54:34 -0400 Subject: [AccessD] Application Title Bar In-Reply-To: <48808C72.1050301@nanaimo.ark.com> References: <48808C72.1050301@nanaimo.ark.com> Message-ID: <005701c8e985$732d7420$8abea8c0@XPS> Tony, Paste the following into a module: Option Compare Database Option Explicit 'Copy this into a public module Private Declare Function SetWindowText Lib "User32" Alias "SetWindowTextA" (ByVal hWnd As Long, ByVal lpString As String) As Long Declare Function IsZoomed Lib "User32" (ByVal hWnd As Long) As Integer Declare Function IsIconic Lib "User32" (ByVal hWnd As Long) As Integer Public Sub SetFormTitle(frm As Form, TitleText As String) Dim fhWnd As Long fhWnd = frm.hWnd SetWindowText fhWnd, TitleText End Sub Public Sub SetAppTitle(TitleText As String) SetWindowText Application.hWndAccessApp, TitleText End Sub In the forms module, paste: '=================================================================== 'Property Maximized ' 'This procedure uses the Property Get statement to define the custom 'form property 'Maximized' by calling the IsZoomed() function. ' 'Return Value: ' True(-1) - The form is maximized. ' False(0) - The form is not maximized. ' '==================================================================== Public Property Get Maximized() As Integer Maximized = IsZoomed(Me.hWnd) * -1 End Property '==================================================================== 'Property Minimized ' 'This procedure uses the Property Get statement to define the custom 'form property 'Minimized' by calling the IsIconic() function. ' 'Return Value: ' True(-1) - The form is minimized. ' False(0) - The form is not minimized. ' '==================================================================== Public Property Get Minimized() As Integer Minimized = IsIconic(Me.hWnd) * -1 End Property '=================================================================== 'Property Maximized ' 'This procedure uses the Property Let statement to set the value of 'the custom form property 'Maximized'. The IsMax argument must be 'defined as the same data type returned by the corresponding Property 'Get procedure for the same custom property. ' '==================================================================== Public Property Let Maximized(IsMax As Integer) If IsMax Then Me.SetFocus DoCmd.Maximize Else Me.SetFocus DoCmd.Restore End If End Property '==================================================================== 'Property Minimized ' 'This procedure uses the Property Let statement to set the value of 'the custom form property 'Minimized'. The IsMin argument must be 'defined as the same data type returned by the corresponding Property 'Get procedure for the same custom property. ' '==================================================================== Public Property Let Minimized(IsMin As Integer) If IsMin Then Me.SetFocus DoCmd.Minimize Else Me.SetFocus DoCmd.Restore End If End Property and finially in the OnResize event: If Me.Maximized = True Then SetFormTitle Me, "" SetAppTitle "This is the test application" Else SetFormTitle Me, "my Form" End If You might want to add some more code to that to pull the App title from the startup properties in the OnResize event rather then hard coding it as I did. I believe this will give you what you want. Jim. -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Tony Septav Sent: Friday, July 18, 2008 8:29 AM To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving Subject: [AccessD] Application Title Bar Hey All Is there way to remove a form's name from the application titlebar when it is maximized. I just want the application name to appear, not AppName - [FormName]. Thanks -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From iggy at nanaimo.ark.com Sat Jul 19 06:26:40 2008 From: iggy at nanaimo.ark.com (Tony Septav) Date: Sat, 19 Jul 2008 04:26:40 -0700 Subject: [AccessD] Application Title Bar In-Reply-To: <005701c8e985$732d7420$8abea8c0@XPS> References: <48808C72.1050301@nanaimo.ark.com> <005701c8e985$732d7420$8abea8c0@XPS> Message-ID: <4881CF70.1040109@nanaimo.ark.com> Hey Jim Worked perfectly. Thank you very much. Jim Dettman wrote: >Tony, > > Paste the following into a module: > >Option Compare Database >Option Explicit > >'Copy this into a public module >Private Declare Function SetWindowText Lib "User32" Alias "SetWindowTextA" >(ByVal hWnd As Long, ByVal lpString As String) As Long >Declare Function IsZoomed Lib "User32" (ByVal hWnd As Long) As Integer >Declare Function IsIconic Lib "User32" (ByVal hWnd As Long) As Integer > >Public Sub SetFormTitle(frm As Form, TitleText As String) > > Dim fhWnd As Long > fhWnd = frm.hWnd > SetWindowText fhWnd, TitleText > >End Sub > >Public Sub SetAppTitle(TitleText As String) > > SetWindowText Application.hWndAccessApp, TitleText > >End Sub > >In the forms module, paste: > >'=================================================================== >'Property Maximized >' >'This procedure uses the Property Get statement to define the custom >'form property 'Maximized' by calling the IsZoomed() function. >' >'Return Value: >' True(-1) - The form is maximized. >' False(0) - The form is not maximized. >' >'==================================================================== > >Public Property Get Maximized() As Integer > Maximized = IsZoomed(Me.hWnd) * -1 >End Property > >'==================================================================== >'Property Minimized >' >'This procedure uses the Property Get statement to define the custom >'form property 'Minimized' by calling the IsIconic() function. >' >'Return Value: >' True(-1) - The form is minimized. >' False(0) - The form is not minimized. >' >'==================================================================== > >Public Property Get Minimized() As Integer > Minimized = IsIconic(Me.hWnd) * -1 >End Property > >'=================================================================== >'Property Maximized >' >'This procedure uses the Property Let statement to set the value of >'the custom form property 'Maximized'. The IsMax argument must be >'defined as the same data type returned by the corresponding Property >'Get procedure for the same custom property. >' >'==================================================================== > >Public Property Let Maximized(IsMax As Integer) > If IsMax Then > Me.SetFocus > DoCmd.Maximize > Else > Me.SetFocus > DoCmd.Restore > End If >End Property > >'==================================================================== >'Property Minimized >' >'This procedure uses the Property Let statement to set the value of >'the custom form property 'Minimized'. The IsMin argument must be >'defined as the same data type returned by the corresponding Property >'Get procedure for the same custom property. >' >'==================================================================== > >Public Property Let Minimized(IsMin As Integer) > If IsMin Then > Me.SetFocus > DoCmd.Minimize > Else > Me.SetFocus > DoCmd.Restore > End If >End Property > > > and finially in the OnResize event: > > If Me.Maximized = True Then > SetFormTitle Me, "" > SetAppTitle "This is the test application" > Else > SetFormTitle Me, "my Form" > End If > > You might want to add some more code to that to pull the App title from >the startup properties in the OnResize event rather then hard coding it as I >did. > > I believe this will give you what you want. > >Jim. > > > >-----Original Message----- >From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com >[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Tony Septav >Sent: Friday, July 18, 2008 8:29 AM >To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving >Subject: [AccessD] Application Title Bar > >Hey All >Is there way to remove a form's name from the application titlebar when >it is maximized. I just want the application name to appear, not AppName >- [FormName]. >Thanks > > From rockysmolin at bchacc.com Sun Jul 20 08:33:49 2008 From: rockysmolin at bchacc.com (Rocky Smolin at Beach Access Software) Date: Sun, 20 Jul 2008 06:33:49 -0700 Subject: [AccessD] Signatures in Email From Access Message-ID: <002101c8ea6d$3e358990$0301a8c0@HAL9005> Dear List: When I use the following call I get the signature inserted into the email. It's just a blank email: CreateOutlookEmail_MailTo varSubject:=strSubject, varTo:=strEmailAddressesTo, varCC:=strEmailAddressesCc, _ varBCC:=strEmailAddressesBcc When I use the following which merges an existing document into the email, NO signature appears: CreateOutlookEmail_MailTo varSubject:=strSubject, varTo:=strEmailAddressesTo, varCC:=strEmailAddressesCc, _ varBCC:=strEmailAddressesBcc, varMessage:=strWholeStory where strWHoleStory contains the body text of the email extracted from a document that the user selects. Apparently something about inserting body text overrides the signature. If Not IsMissing(varMessage) Then .Body = varMessage & vbCrLf & vbCrLf End If Is there a way to generate the email with body text AND the signature? MTIA Rocky Smolin Beach Access Software 858-259-4334 www.e-z-mrp.com www.bchacc.com From fuller.artful at gmail.com Sun Jul 20 12:29:21 2008 From: fuller.artful at gmail.com (Arthur Fuller) Date: Sun, 20 Jul 2008 14:29:21 -0300 Subject: [AccessD] Puzzling query behavior Message-ID: <29f585dd0807201029r6ef5d1fdkb5ca53bf40b77576@mail.gmail.com> I have some code used to do Filter By Form. It code from ADH. It makes a copy of the form in question, adding a QBF suffx to it. You a button on your orignal form to open the QBF form, which then lets build up a filter expression and passes it back to your original form. So far, so good. The problem is that there are a pair of combo boxes on the original form which let the user move throw the records using the seach combos. Here's the problem. Although there is a new filter on the form, these combos still relect the whole recordset. I have tried various things without success. It's very puzzling. With Me If .Filter <> "" Then Dim strSQL1 As String, strSQL2 As String strSQL1 = "SELECT * FROM SitesByName_qs WHERE " & .Filter strSQL2 = "SELECT * FROM SitesByNumber_qs WHERE " & .Filter Debug.Print strSQL1 Debug.Print strSQL2 .SiteByName_finder_cbo.RowSource = strSQL1 Debug.Print "Row source is now: " & .SiteByName_finder_cbo.RowSource .SiteNumber_finder_cbo.RowSource = strSQL2 Debug.Print "Row source is Now: " & .SiteNumber_finder_cbo.RowSource .SiteByName_finder_cbo.Requery .SiteNumber_finder_cbo.Requery End If .Requery End With -- in the debug I see what I expect, such as SELECT * FROM SitesByName_qs WHERE (([SiteCity] LIKE "Toronto*")) SELECT * FROM SitesByNumber_qs WHERE (([SiteCity] LIKE "Toronto*")) Row source is now: SELECT * FROM SitesByName_qs WHERE (([SiteCity] LIKE "Toronto*")) Row source is Now: SELECT * FROM SitesByNumber_qs WHERE (([SiteCity] LIKE "Toronto*")) I'm baffled. I can't see what I'm doing wrong, but I inspect the two combos rowsource they are back to their original values Ideas? Thanks, Arthur From Gustav at cactus.dk Sun Jul 20 12:52:45 2008 From: Gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock) Date: Sun, 20 Jul 2008 19:52:45 +0200 Subject: [AccessD] Puzzling query behavior Message-ID: Hi Arthur Could it be the double quotes around Toronto? Try with single quotes. /gustav >>> fuller.artful at gmail.com 20-07-2008 19:29 >>> I have some code used to do Filter By Form. It code from ADH. It makes a copy of the form in question, adding a QBF suffx to it. You a button on your orignal form to open the QBF form, which then lets build up a filter expression and passes it back to your original form. So far, so good. The problem is that there are a pair of combo boxes on the original form which let the user move throw the records using the seach combos. Here's the problem. Although there is a new filter on the form, these combos still relect the whole recordset. I have tried various things without success. It's very puzzling. With Me If .Filter <> "" Then Dim strSQL1 As String, strSQL2 As String strSQL1 = "SELECT * FROM SitesByName_qs WHERE " & .Filter strSQL2 = "SELECT * FROM SitesByNumber_qs WHERE " & .Filter Debug.Print strSQL1 Debug.Print strSQL2 .SiteByName_finder_cbo.RowSource = strSQL1 Debug.Print "Row source is now: " & .SiteByName_finder_cbo.RowSource .SiteNumber_finder_cbo.RowSource = strSQL2 Debug.Print "Row source is Now: " & .SiteNumber_finder_cbo.RowSource .SiteByName_finder_cbo.Requery .SiteNumber_finder_cbo.Requery End If .Requery End With -- in the debug I see what I expect, such as SELECT * FROM SitesByName_qs WHERE (([SiteCity] LIKE "Toronto*")) SELECT * FROM SitesByNumber_qs WHERE (([SiteCity] LIKE "Toronto*")) Row source is now: SELECT * FROM SitesByName_qs WHERE (([SiteCity] LIKE "Toronto*")) Row source is Now: SELECT * FROM SitesByNumber_qs WHERE (([SiteCity] LIKE "Toronto*")) I'm baffled. I can't see what I'm doing wrong, but I inspect the two combos rowsource they are back to their original values Ideas? Thanks, Arthur From rockysmolin at bchacc.com Sun Jul 20 14:56:48 2008 From: rockysmolin at bchacc.com (Rocky Smolin at Beach Access Software) Date: Sun, 20 Jul 2008 12:56:48 -0700 Subject: [AccessD] Puzzling query behavior In-Reply-To: <29f585dd0807201029r6ef5d1fdkb5ca53bf40b77576@mail.gmail.com> References: <29f585dd0807201029r6ef5d1fdkb5ca53bf40b77576@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <000901c8eaa2$bed830e0$0301a8c0@HAL9005> Arthur: My idea would be to take a different approach, which may not be helpful. But instead of using filter by form, I'd modify the RecordSource of the form based on the filters the user wants and Requery the form - same with the combo boxes. Does this go back to your pre-hurricane problem or is this a new issue? Rocky Smolin Beach Access Software 858-259-4334 www.e-z-mrp.com www.bchacc.com -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Arthur Fuller Sent: Sunday, July 20, 2008 10:29 AM To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving Subject: [AccessD] Puzzling query behavior I have some code used to do Filter By Form. It code from ADH. It makes a copy of the form in question, adding a QBF suffx to it. You a button on your orignal form to open the QBF form, which then lets build up a filter expression and passes it back to your original form. So far, so good. The problem is that there are a pair of combo boxes on the original form which let the user move throw the records using the seach combos. Here's the problem. Although there is a new filter on the form, these combos still relect the whole recordset. I have tried various things without success. It's very puzzling. With Me If .Filter <> "" Then Dim strSQL1 As String, strSQL2 As String strSQL1 = "SELECT * FROM SitesByName_qs WHERE " & .Filter strSQL2 = "SELECT * FROM SitesByNumber_qs WHERE " & .Filter Debug.Print strSQL1 Debug.Print strSQL2 .SiteByName_finder_cbo.RowSource = strSQL1 Debug.Print "Row source is now: " & .SiteByName_finder_cbo.RowSource .SiteNumber_finder_cbo.RowSource = strSQL2 Debug.Print "Row source is Now: " & .SiteNumber_finder_cbo.RowSource .SiteByName_finder_cbo.Requery .SiteNumber_finder_cbo.Requery End If .Requery End With -- in the debug I see what I expect, such as SELECT * FROM SitesByName_qs WHERE (([SiteCity] LIKE "Toronto*")) SELECT * FROM SitesByNumber_qs WHERE (([SiteCity] LIKE "Toronto*")) Row source is now: SELECT * FROM SitesByName_qs WHERE (([SiteCity] LIKE "Toronto*")) Row source is Now: SELECT * FROM SitesByNumber_qs WHERE (([SiteCity] LIKE "Toronto*")) I'm baffled. I can't see what I'm doing wrong, but I inspect the two combos rowsource they are back to their original values Ideas? Thanks, Arthur -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From ab-mi at post3.tele.dk Sun Jul 20 18:40:56 2008 From: ab-mi at post3.tele.dk (Asger Blond) Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2008 01:40:56 +0200 Subject: [AccessD] Puzzling query behavior In-Reply-To: <29f585dd0807201029r6ef5d1fdkb5ca53bf40b77576@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <000001c8eac2$0eae7b50$2101a8c0@AB> Hi Arthur, I'm baffled too. Just tested your code and it's working perfectly for me: the combo is reflecting the current FBF-values, not the original values. I then commented out your requerying-statement, which to my knowledge is superfluous: it sure is - same result. I suspect some code elsewhere in your app is resetting the combo's rowsource to its design-time value. If you want, send me the db offlist and I'll have a look. Asger -----Oprindelig meddelelse----- Fra: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] P? vegne af Arthur Fuller Sendt: 20. juli 2008 19:29 Til: Access Developers discussion and problem solving Emne: [AccessD] Puzzling query behavior I have some code used to do Filter By Form. It code from ADH. It makes a copy of the form in question, adding a QBF suffx to it. You a button on your orignal form to open the QBF form, which then lets build up a filter expression and passes it back to your original form. So far, so good. The problem is that there are a pair of combo boxes on the original form which let the user move throw the records using the seach combos. Here's the problem. Although there is a new filter on the form, these combos still relect the whole recordset. I have tried various things without success. It's very puzzling. With Me If .Filter <> "" Then Dim strSQL1 As String, strSQL2 As String strSQL1 = "SELECT * FROM SitesByName_qs WHERE " & .Filter strSQL2 = "SELECT * FROM SitesByNumber_qs WHERE " & ..Filter Debug.Print strSQL1 Debug.Print strSQL2 .SiteByName_finder_cbo.RowSource = strSQL1 Debug.Print "Row source is now: " & .SiteByName_finder_cbo.RowSource .SiteNumber_finder_cbo.RowSource = strSQL2 Debug.Print "Row source is Now: " & .SiteNumber_finder_cbo.RowSource .SiteByName_finder_cbo.Requery .SiteNumber_finder_cbo.Requery End If .Requery End With -- in the debug I see what I expect, such as SELECT * FROM SitesByName_qs WHERE (([SiteCity] LIKE "Toronto*")) SELECT * FROM SitesByNumber_qs WHERE (([SiteCity] LIKE "Toronto*")) Row source is now: SELECT * FROM SitesByName_qs WHERE (([SiteCity] LIKE "Toronto*")) Row source is Now: SELECT * FROM SitesByNumber_qs WHERE (([SiteCity] LIKE "Toronto*")) I'm baffled. I can't see what I'm doing wrong, but I inspect the two combos rowsource they are back to their original values Ideas? Thanks, Arthur -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From ab-mi at post3.tele.dk Sun Jul 20 19:32:32 2008 From: ab-mi at post3.tele.dk (Asger Blond) Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2008 02:32:32 +0200 Subject: [AccessD] Puzzling query behavior In-Reply-To: <000001c8eac2$0eae7b50$2101a8c0@AB> Message-ID: <000101c8eac9$43fc6680$2101a8c0@AB> Arthur, Just strikes me: Did you make sure that the queries for your combos (SitesByName_qs and SitesByNumber_qs) SELECT ALL COLUMNS AVAILABLE ON YOUR FORM? If not so, then doing a FBF with a condition on a column, which is not present in the combo's rowsource, will not filter the combo. Asger -----Oprindelig meddelelse----- Fra: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] P? vegne af Asger Blond Sendt: 21. juli 2008 01:41 Til: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' Emne: Re: [AccessD] Puzzling query behavior Hi Arthur, I'm baffled too. Just tested your code and it's working perfectly for me: the combo is reflecting the current FBF-values, not the original values. I then commented out your requerying-statement, which to my knowledge is superfluous: it sure is - same result. I suspect some code elsewhere in your app is resetting the combo's rowsource to its design-time value. If you want, send me the db offlist and I'll have a look. Asger -----Oprindelig meddelelse----- Fra: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] P? vegne af Arthur Fuller Sendt: 20. juli 2008 19:29 Til: Access Developers discussion and problem solving Emne: [AccessD] Puzzling query behavior I have some code used to do Filter By Form. It code from ADH. It makes a copy of the form in question, adding a QBF suffx to it. You a button on your orignal form to open the QBF form, which then lets build up a filter expression and passes it back to your original form. So far, so good. The problem is that there are a pair of combo boxes on the original form which let the user move throw the records using the seach combos. Here's the problem. Although there is a new filter on the form, these combos still relect the whole recordset. I have tried various things without success. It's very puzzling. With Me If .Filter <> "" Then Dim strSQL1 As String, strSQL2 As String strSQL1 = "SELECT * FROM SitesByName_qs WHERE " & .Filter strSQL2 = "SELECT * FROM SitesByNumber_qs WHERE " & ...Filter Debug.Print strSQL1 Debug.Print strSQL2 .SiteByName_finder_cbo.RowSource = strSQL1 Debug.Print "Row source is now: " & .SiteByName_finder_cbo.RowSource .SiteNumber_finder_cbo.RowSource = strSQL2 Debug.Print "Row source is Now: " & .SiteNumber_finder_cbo.RowSource .SiteByName_finder_cbo.Requery .SiteNumber_finder_cbo.Requery End If .Requery End With -- in the debug I see what I expect, such as SELECT * FROM SitesByName_qs WHERE (([SiteCity] LIKE "Toronto*")) SELECT * FROM SitesByNumber_qs WHERE (([SiteCity] LIKE "Toronto*")) Row source is now: SELECT * FROM SitesByName_qs WHERE (([SiteCity] LIKE "Toronto*")) Row source is Now: SELECT * FROM SitesByNumber_qs WHERE (([SiteCity] LIKE "Toronto*")) I'm baffled. I can't see what I'm doing wrong, but I inspect the two combos rowsource they are back to their original values Ideas? Thanks, Arthur -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From accessd at shaw.ca Sun Jul 20 21:31:49 2008 From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence) Date: Sun, 20 Jul 2008 19:31:49 -0700 Subject: [AccessD] Creating Outlook macros In-Reply-To: <000101c8eac9$43fc6680$2101a8c0@AB> References: <000001c8eac2$0eae7b50$2101a8c0@AB> <000101c8eac9$43fc6680$2101a8c0@AB> Message-ID: <5F89B1AEAA694892ADE5DB8BF74BB20A@creativesystemdesigns.com> Hi All: A client has requested that I find someone who has experience at creating macros (other than the very basics) behind Outlook. If someone has this expertise please contact me off-line. TIA Jim From newsgrps at dalyn.co.nz Sun Jul 20 21:56:43 2008 From: newsgrps at dalyn.co.nz (David Emerson) Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2008 14:56:43 +1200 Subject: [AccessD] Stop Access Opening Exclusive Message-ID: <20080721025556.VTEG7045.mta05.xtra.co.nz@Dalyn.dalyn.co.nz> I have a client that has a shortcut to a database that just has the name of the database (without the full path of Access before it). Windows explorer has the file type associated with Access (he is running 2003). When the shortcut is clicked the file seems to open in exclusive mode so that when another user opens the database it is read only (and a message appears to tell them). Since it is an MDE it doesn't matter as the data in the SQL backend can be changed anyway. But it is annoying having the warning message pop up. How can I change the shortcut/application so that it doesn't default to exclusive? Regards David Emerson Dalyn Software Ltd Wellington, New Zealand From fuller.artful at gmail.com Mon Jul 21 04:12:25 2008 From: fuller.artful at gmail.com (Arthur Fuller) Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2008 06:12:25 -0300 Subject: [AccessD] Puzzling query behavior In-Reply-To: <000101c8eac9$43fc6680$2101a8c0@AB> References: <000001c8eac2$0eae7b50$2101a8c0@AB> <000101c8eac9$43fc6680$2101a8c0@AB> Message-ID: <29f585dd0807210212y334309e8uf424c219a30ca066@mail.gmail.com> That's exactly what happened, Asger. Once I realized that, it took 5 minutes to fix. Now it works perfectly. On Sun, Jul 20, 2008 at 9:32 PM, Asger Blond wrote: > Arthur, > Just strikes me: > Did you make sure that the queries for your combos (SitesByName_qs and > SitesByNumber_qs) SELECT ALL COLUMNS AVAILABLE ON YOUR FORM? > If not so, then doing a FBF with a condition on a column, which is not > present in the combo's rowsource, will not filter the combo. > > Asger > From kp at sdsonline.net Mon Jul 21 04:25:17 2008 From: kp at sdsonline.net (Kath Pelletti) Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2008 19:25:17 +1000 Subject: [AccessD] Stop Access Opening Exclusive References: <20080721025556.VTEG7045.mta05.xtra.co.nz@Dalyn.dalyn.co.nz> Message-ID: <001e01c8eb13$b1373370$6401a8c0@DELLAPTOP> David - Might be worth getting your client to check under Tools, Options, Advanced, then check whether the 'default open mode' is set to Shared or Exclusive? Kath ----- Original Message ----- From: "David Emerson" To: Sent: Monday, July 21, 2008 12:56 PM Subject: [AccessD] Stop Access Opening Exclusive >I have a client that has a shortcut to a database that just has the > name of the database (without the full path of Access before > it). Windows explorer has the file type associated with Access (he > is running 2003). > > When the shortcut is clicked the file seems to open in exclusive mode > so that when another user opens the database it is read only (and a > message appears to tell them). Since it is an MDE it doesn't matter > as the data in the SQL backend can be changed anyway. But it is > annoying having the warning message pop up. How can I change the > shortcut/application so that it doesn't default to exclusive? > > Regards > > David Emerson > Dalyn Software Ltd > Wellington, New Zealand > > -- > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > From kp at sdsonline.net Mon Jul 21 04:26:50 2008 From: kp at sdsonline.net (Kath Pelletti) Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2008 19:26:50 +1000 Subject: [AccessD] Stop Access Opening Exclusive References: <20080721025556.VTEG7045.mta05.xtra.co.nz@Dalyn.dalyn.co.nz> Message-ID: <002201c8eb13$e85e4fa0$6401a8c0@DELLAPTOP> According to this link: http://www.gridview.org/kb/Access2003/When-you-run-Microsoft-Access-from-the-Start-menu-or-a-shortcut-menu-you-can-use-command-line-switches-to-modify-the-sta.aspx which I have been reading myself lately, there is no switch for non-exclusive - it is the default. kath ----- Original Message ----- From: "David Emerson" To: Sent: Monday, July 21, 2008 12:56 PM Subject: [AccessD] Stop Access Opening Exclusive >I have a client that has a shortcut to a database that just has the > name of the database (without the full path of Access before > it). Windows explorer has the file type associated with Access (he > is running 2003). > > When the shortcut is clicked the file seems to open in exclusive mode > so that when another user opens the database it is read only (and a > message appears to tell them). Since it is an MDE it doesn't matter > as the data in the SQL backend can be changed anyway. But it is > annoying having the warning message pop up. How can I change the > shortcut/application so that it doesn't default to exclusive? > > Regards > > David Emerson > Dalyn Software Ltd > Wellington, New Zealand > > -- > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > From dwaters at usinternet.com Mon Jul 21 07:05:04 2008 From: dwaters at usinternet.com (Dan Waters) Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2008 07:05:04 -0500 Subject: [AccessD] Stop Access Opening Exclusive In-Reply-To: <20080721025556.VTEG7045.mta05.xtra.co.nz@Dalyn.dalyn.co.nz> References: <20080721025556.VTEG7045.mta05.xtra.co.nz@Dalyn.dalyn.co.nz> Message-ID: <79EFBCAC1E0C4492B764D3C3F83A6A4C@danwaters> David, You can set the option to share the database in your opening code: SetOption "Default Open Mode For Databases", 0 0 = shared. 1 = exclusive. HTH, Dan -----Original Message----- I have a client that has a shortcut to a database that just has the name of the database (without the full path of Access before it). Windows explorer has the file type associated with Access (he is running 2003). When the shortcut is clicked the file seems to open in exclusive mode so that when another user opens the database it is read only (and a message appears to tell them). Since it is an MDE it doesn't matter as the data in the SQL backend can be changed anyway. But it is annoying having the warning message pop up. How can I change the shortcut/application so that it doesn't default to exclusive? Regards David Emerson Dalyn Software Ltd Wellington, New Zealand From ssharkins at gmail.com Mon Jul 21 07:45:46 2008 From: ssharkins at gmail.com (Susan Harkins) Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2008 08:45:46 -0400 Subject: [AccessD] Creating Outlook macros References: <000001c8eac2$0eae7b50$2101a8c0@AB><000101c8eac9$43fc6680$2101a8c0@AB> <5F89B1AEAA694892ADE5DB8BF74BB20A@creativesystemdesigns.com> Message-ID: <00a501c8eb2f$c21e3910$2f8601c7@SusanOne> Jim, even if you don't have experience, you can find just about anything you need online. Unless they need something really involved, I can't imagine why you couldn't do this yourself. Susan H. > Hi All: > > A client has requested that I find someone who has experience at creating > macros (other than the very basics) behind Outlook. If someone has this > expertise please contact me off-line. From rockysmolin at bchacc.com Mon Jul 21 09:11:26 2008 From: rockysmolin at bchacc.com (Rocky Smolin at Beach Access Software) Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2008 07:11:26 -0700 Subject: [AccessD] Open all forms Message-ID: <004601c8eb3b$aa5898f0$0301a8c0@HAL9005> Dear List: I am trying to write a quick module that will open all the forms in turn in design view, change one property (in this case the background color of the detail section), save and close. But I can't seem to get the syntax right to open each of the forms in turn. Does anyone have a snip to do this? MTIA Rocky Smolin Beach Access Software 858-259-4334 www.e-z-mrp.com www.bchacc.com From rockysmolin at bchacc.com Mon Jul 21 09:15:48 2008 From: rockysmolin at bchacc.com (Rocky Smolin at Beach Access Software) Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2008 07:15:48 -0700 Subject: [AccessD] Signatures in Email From Access Message-ID: <004b01c8eb3c$4718c570$0301a8c0@HAL9005> Dear List: When I use the following call I get the signature inserted into the email. It's just a blank email: CreateOutlookEmail_MailTo varSubject:=strSubject, varTo:=strEmailAddressesTo, varCC:=strEmailAddressesCc, _ varBCC:=strEmailAddressesBcc When I use the following which merges an existing document into the email, NO signature appears: CreateOutlookEmail_MailTo varSubject:=strSubject, varTo:=strEmailAddressesTo, varCC:=strEmailAddressesCc, _ varBCC:=strEmailAddressesBcc, varMessage:=strWholeStory where strW h oleStory contains the body text of the email extracted from a document that the user selects. Apparently something about inserting body text overrides the signature. If Not IsMissing(varMessage) Then .Body = varMessage & vbCrLf & vbCrLf End If Is there a way to generate the email with body text AND the signature? MTIA Rocky Smolin Beach Access Software 858-259-4334 www.e-z-mrp.com www.bchacc.com From rockysmolin at bchacc.com Mon Jul 21 09:29:30 2008 From: rockysmolin at bchacc.com (Rocky Smolin at Beach Access Software) Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2008 07:29:30 -0700 Subject: [AccessD] Facelift for my App Message-ID: <005001c8eb3e$3018f1e0$0301a8c0@HAL9005> Dear List: This must be my day to ask for help. I want to give one of my apps a facelift - change the colors, fonts, controls - stuff like that - to look more moderne. So I guess I'm looking for some web sties that might have some screen shots of forms from which I could get some ideas. The current app forms can be seen at http://www.e-z-mrp.com/ss_mainmenu.htm. So you can see what I mean - functional but not beautiful. What colors do you all favor for backcolors and forcolors? Fonts? Any suggestions welcome. MTIA, Rocky Smolin Beach Access Software 858-259-4334 www.e-z-mrp.com www.bchacc.com From iggy at nanaimo.ark.com Mon Jul 21 09:58:02 2008 From: iggy at nanaimo.ark.com (Tony Septav) Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2008 07:58:02 -0700 Subject: [AccessD] Facelift for my App In-Reply-To: <005001c8eb3e$3018f1e0$0301a8c0@HAL9005> References: <005001c8eb3e$3018f1e0$0301a8c0@HAL9005> Message-ID: <4884A3FA.1070700@nanaimo.ark.com> Hey Rocky I found that simply adding some subtle shaded textured coloured bmps backgrounds (I created) to my opening and menu selection forms made a real difference, it adds overhead depending on the size of the bit map, but when I released an update of an application with this incoporated, my clients responded "Hey Cool" I like the new look. Not had that response before on a new release before. Rocky Smolin at Beach Access Software wrote: >Dear List: > >This must be my day to ask for help. I want to give one of my apps a >facelift - change the colors, fonts, controls - stuff like that - to look >more moderne. > >So I guess I'm looking for some web sties that might have some screen shots >of forms from which I could get some ideas. > >The current app forms can be seen at http://www.e-z-mrp.com/ss_mainmenu.htm. >So you can see what I mean - functional but not beautiful. > >What colors do you all favor for backcolors and forcolors? Fonts? > >Any suggestions welcome. > > >MTIA, > >Rocky Smolin > >Beach Access Software > >858-259-4334 > >www.e-z-mrp.com > >www.bchacc.com > > > > > > > > From dwaters at usinternet.com Mon Jul 21 10:12:42 2008 From: dwaters at usinternet.com (Dan Waters) Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2008 10:12:42 -0500 Subject: [AccessD] Facelift for my App In-Reply-To: <005001c8eb3e$3018f1e0$0301a8c0@HAL9005> References: <005001c8eb3e$3018f1e0$0301a8c0@HAL9005> Message-ID: <88CEDCF45A88419EAC85E71AA7195857@danwaters> Hi Rocky, Suggestions: 1) Use the Flat special effect for all controls - looks more elegant & less tiring on the eyes. Don't use raised boxes. 2) Don't use Times font. Tahoma is good, or try Arial. 3) Use conditional formatting to highlight the control that has the focus. I use a pastel yellow. Don't do this with locked controls. 4) I'd reserve the word 'Exit' for exiting the program completely. i.e., Change 'Exit to Main Menu' to 'Go To Main Menu'. 5) Wherever possible, line up your controls both horizontally and vertically. On Supply Side Maintenance screen, Move the Lead Time control and the Qty. On Hand control to the right to line up the left sides with the controls above. 6) For control borders, try a light gray color. I use 11184810. 7) Tab controls might be helpful for similar tasks. 8) About 30% of my screens are colored - the rest are typical gray. Apply the same colors to common tasks - looks good this way. I've found that only 'pastel' colors are acceptable to look at over time. 9) You display your screenshots using Access 2003 format. The buttons have rounded corners which look a little better. Your organization and layout sure look good! I'll send you a document off-line which shows some of the above. HTH, Dan -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Rocky Smolin at Beach Access Software Sent: Monday, July 21, 2008 9:30 AM To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' Subject: [AccessD] Facelift for my App Dear List: This must be my day to ask for help. I want to give one of my apps a facelift - change the colors, fonts, controls - stuff like that - to look more moderne. So I guess I'm looking for some web sties that might have some screen shots of forms from which I could get some ideas. The current app forms can be seen at http://www.e-z-mrp.com/ss_mainmenu.htm. So you can see what I mean - functional but not beautiful. What colors do you all favor for backcolors and forcolors? Fonts? Any suggestions welcome. MTIA, Rocky Smolin Beach Access Software 858-259-4334 www.e-z-mrp.com www.bchacc.com -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From markamatte at hotmail.com Mon Jul 21 10:15:46 2008 From: markamatte at hotmail.com (Mark A Matte) Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2008 15:15:46 +0000 Subject: [AccessD] Open all forms In-Reply-To: <004601c8eb3b$aa5898f0$0301a8c0@HAL9005> References: <004601c8eb3b$aa5898f0$0301a8c0@HAL9005> Message-ID: Rocky, I did something similar a few months ago. I searched every form for a text box that had a ControlSource LIKE "*MySearch*" and Updated the ControlSource to "SomethingNew". I think this is what you need. I Have it at home and can send it this evening (about 3:00 your time) Thanks, Mark A. Matte > From: rockysmolin at bchacc.com > To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com > Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2008 07:11:26 -0700 > Subject: [AccessD] Open all forms > > Dear List: > > I am trying to write a quick module that will open all the forms in turn in > design view, change one property (in this case the background color of the > detail section), save and close. But I can't seem to get the syntax right > to open each of the forms in turn. > > Does anyone have a snip to do this? > > MTIA > > Rocky Smolin > > Beach Access Software > > 858-259-4334 > > www.e-z-mrp.com > > www.bchacc.com > > > > > > > -- > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com _________________________________________________________________ With Windows Live for mobile, your contacts travel with you. http://www.windowslive.com/mobile/overview.html?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_mobile_072008 From rockysmolin at bchacc.com Mon Jul 21 10:23:50 2008 From: rockysmolin at bchacc.com (Rocky Smolin at Beach Access Software) Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2008 08:23:50 -0700 Subject: [AccessD] Facelift for my App In-Reply-To: <88CEDCF45A88419EAC85E71AA7195857@danwaters> References: <005001c8eb3e$3018f1e0$0301a8c0@HAL9005> <88CEDCF45A88419EAC85E71AA7195857@danwaters> Message-ID: <006301c8eb45$c7165720$0301a8c0@HAL9005> Dan: Thanks for the input. Definitely got to do some of those. Alignment in this app is a little tricky since it's multi-language and the lengths of the translations vary so much. Gotta leave room for the longest translation. Rocky Smolin Beach Access Software 858-259-4334 www.e-z-mrp.com www.bchacc.com -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Dan Waters Sent: Monday, July 21, 2008 8:13 AM To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' Subject: Re: [AccessD] Facelift for my App Hi Rocky, Suggestions: 1) Use the Flat special effect for all controls - looks more elegant & less tiring on the eyes. Don't use raised boxes. 2) Don't use Times font. Tahoma is good, or try Arial. 3) Use conditional formatting to highlight the control that has the focus. I use a pastel yellow. Don't do this with locked controls. 4) I'd reserve the word 'Exit' for exiting the program completely. i.e., Change 'Exit to Main Menu' to 'Go To Main Menu'. 5) Wherever possible, line up your controls both horizontally and vertically. On Supply Side Maintenance screen, Move the Lead Time control and the Qty. On Hand control to the right to line up the left sides with the controls above. 6) For control borders, try a light gray color. I use 11184810. 7) Tab controls might be helpful for similar tasks. 8) About 30% of my screens are colored - the rest are typical gray. Apply the same colors to common tasks - looks good this way. I've found that only 'pastel' colors are acceptable to look at over time. 9) You display your screenshots using Access 2003 format. The buttons have rounded corners which look a little better. Your organization and layout sure look good! I'll send you a document off-line which shows some of the above. HTH, Dan -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Rocky Smolin at Beach Access Software Sent: Monday, July 21, 2008 9:30 AM To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' Subject: [AccessD] Facelift for my App Dear List: This must be my day to ask for help. I want to give one of my apps a facelift - change the colors, fonts, controls - stuff like that - to look more moderne. So I guess I'm looking for some web sties that might have some screen shots of forms from which I could get some ideas. The current app forms can be seen at http://www.e-z-mrp.com/ss_mainmenu.htm. So you can see what I mean - functional but not beautiful. What colors do you all favor for backcolors and forcolors? Fonts? Any suggestions welcome. MTIA, Rocky Smolin Beach Access Software 858-259-4334 www.e-z-mrp.com www.bchacc.com -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From rockysmolin at bchacc.com Mon Jul 21 10:24:17 2008 From: rockysmolin at bchacc.com (Rocky Smolin at Beach Access Software) Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2008 08:24:17 -0700 Subject: [AccessD] Facelift for my App In-Reply-To: <4884A3FA.1070700@nanaimo.ark.com> References: <005001c8eb3e$3018f1e0$0301a8c0@HAL9005> <4884A3FA.1070700@nanaimo.ark.com> Message-ID: <006401c8eb45$d73eff80$0301a8c0@HAL9005> Tony: How did you create those shaded textured coloured bmps backgrounds? Rocky Smolin Beach Access Software 858-259-4334 www.e-z-mrp.com www.bchacc.com -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Tony Septav Sent: Monday, July 21, 2008 7:58 AM To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving Subject: Re: [AccessD] Facelift for my App Hey Rocky I found that simply adding some subtle shaded textured coloured bmps backgrounds (I created) to my opening and menu selection forms made a real difference, it adds overhead depending on the size of the bit map, but when I released an update of an application with this incoporated, my clients responded "Hey Cool" I like the new look. Not had that response before on a new release before. Rocky Smolin at Beach Access Software wrote: >Dear List: > >This must be my day to ask for help. I want to give one of my apps a >facelift - change the colors, fonts, controls - stuff like that - to >look more moderne. > >So I guess I'm looking for some web sties that might have some screen >shots of forms from which I could get some ideas. > >The current app forms can be seen at http://www.e-z-mrp.com/ss_mainmenu.htm. >So you can see what I mean - functional but not beautiful. > >What colors do you all favor for backcolors and forcolors? Fonts? > >Any suggestions welcome. > > >MTIA, > >Rocky Smolin > >Beach Access Software > >858-259-4334 > >www.e-z-mrp.com > >www.bchacc.com > > > > > > > > -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From rockysmolin at bchacc.com Mon Jul 21 10:25:57 2008 From: rockysmolin at bchacc.com (Rocky Smolin at Beach Access Software) Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2008 08:25:57 -0700 Subject: [AccessD] Open all forms In-Reply-To: References: <004601c8eb3b$aa5898f0$0301a8c0@HAL9005> Message-ID: <006501c8eb46$12e82160$0301a8c0@HAL9005> Thanks Mark. That's what I need - loop through all the forms, then also loop through all the controls - I can change the Times font to Arial or Tahoma and change the forecolor as well. Rocky Smolin Beach Access Software 858-259-4334 www.e-z-mrp.com www.bchacc.com -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Mark A Matte Sent: Monday, July 21, 2008 8:16 AM To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving Subject: Re: [AccessD] Open all forms Rocky, I did something similar a few months ago. I searched every form for a text box that had a ControlSource LIKE "*MySearch*" and Updated the ControlSource to "SomethingNew". I think this is what you need. I Have it at home and can send it this evening (about 3:00 your time) Thanks, Mark A. Matte > From: rockysmolin at bchacc.com > To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com > Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2008 07:11:26 -0700 > Subject: [AccessD] Open all forms > > Dear List: > > I am trying to write a quick module that will open all the forms in > turn in design view, change one property (in this case the background > color of the detail section), save and close. But I can't seem to get > the syntax right to open each of the forms in turn. > > Does anyone have a snip to do this? > > MTIA > > Rocky Smolin > > Beach Access Software > > 858-259-4334 > > www.e-z-mrp.com > > www.bchacc.com > > > > > > > -- > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com _________________________________________________________________ With Windows Live for mobile, your contacts travel with you. http://www.windowslive.com/mobile/overview.html?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_mobile_072 008 -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From rockysmolin at bchacc.com Mon Jul 21 10:48:38 2008 From: rockysmolin at bchacc.com (Rocky Smolin at Beach Access Software) Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2008 08:48:38 -0700 Subject: [AccessD] Facelift for my App In-Reply-To: <88CEDCF45A88419EAC85E71AA7195857@danwaters> References: <005001c8eb3e$3018f1e0$0301a8c0@HAL9005> <88CEDCF45A88419EAC85E71AA7195857@danwaters> Message-ID: <007201c8eb49$3f8aa550$0301a8c0@HAL9005> Dan: I just tried the pale yellow conditional formatting when the control has the focus. I like that. But apparently you can't select multiple controls and do them all at once - have to do them one at a time. Do you know if conditional formatting can be done through code - opening the form in design view, scanning the controls for text and combo boxes and setting the conditional formatting? TIA Rocky Smolin Beach Access Software 858-259-4334 www.e-z-mrp.com www.bchacc.com -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Dan Waters Sent: Monday, July 21, 2008 8:13 AM To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' Subject: Re: [AccessD] Facelift for my App Hi Rocky, Suggestions: 1) Use the Flat special effect for all controls - looks more elegant & less tiring on the eyes. Don't use raised boxes. 2) Don't use Times font. Tahoma is good, or try Arial. 3) Use conditional formatting to highlight the control that has the focus. I use a pastel yellow. Don't do this with locked controls. 4) I'd reserve the word 'Exit' for exiting the program completely. i.e., Change 'Exit to Main Menu' to 'Go To Main Menu'. 5) Wherever possible, line up your controls both horizontally and vertically. On Supply Side Maintenance screen, Move the Lead Time control and the Qty. On Hand control to the right to line up the left sides with the controls above. 6) For control borders, try a light gray color. I use 11184810. 7) Tab controls might be helpful for similar tasks. 8) About 30% of my screens are colored - the rest are typical gray. Apply the same colors to common tasks - looks good this way. I've found that only 'pastel' colors are acceptable to look at over time. 9) You display your screenshots using Access 2003 format. The buttons have rounded corners which look a little better. Your organization and layout sure look good! I'll send you a document off-line which shows some of the above. HTH, Dan -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Rocky Smolin at Beach Access Software Sent: Monday, July 21, 2008 9:30 AM To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' Subject: [AccessD] Facelift for my App Dear List: This must be my day to ask for help. I want to give one of my apps a facelift - change the colors, fonts, controls - stuff like that - to look more moderne. So I guess I'm looking for some web sties that might have some screen shots of forms from which I could get some ideas. The current app forms can be seen at http://www.e-z-mrp.com/ss_mainmenu.htm. So you can see what I mean - functional but not beautiful. What colors do you all favor for backcolors and forcolors? Fonts? Any suggestions welcome. MTIA, Rocky Smolin Beach Access Software 858-259-4334 www.e-z-mrp.com www.bchacc.com -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From Gustav at cactus.dk Mon Jul 21 11:03:17 2008 From: Gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock) Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2008 18:03:17 +0200 Subject: [AccessD] Facelift for my App Message-ID: Hi Rocky First, this is very difficult. If in doubt, study the Access samples available around. 95% look terrible as if no efforts in design and layout have been done. Second, a good design is extremely important. We as developers don't like it, but the fact is, that to the new user the appearance of your app is the first impression. In ten seconds he/she will decide if this looks trustworthy (professional) or not. If yes, your first battle is won; if no, you have to fight hard to convince the user. An excellent example I can find for you is SAP Business One, the baby of the SAP product line. This is what to expect for an app in the $ 1000-2000 per seat price range. Select "View the demo" here and study _all_ the small sessions. Notice the highlighting of the focused control: http://www.sap.com/asia/smallbusiness/solutions/demos/index.epx It follows all the guide lines I have collected through the years (no, SAP didn't call me) and most books on the topic list these too. Here are 10 major points: - Use a calm and absolutely consistent form layout. Stay away from any "smart" twists; chances are that the user can't see anything smart about it. - Don't ever use grey (except for decoration or the like). - Use pale colours of a limited palette except for text and icons. This palette and the guide lines for its use are so difficult to build that most people either can't or won't use the time needed for experiments and will be better off hiring a professional graphics artist. I'm not kidding - I spent two weeks for this alone for the app I'm currently developing moving between Windows XP and Vista. The final result will probably look "female". Don't be afraid of that. I always ask my female coworkers if they like what I have created. To me this test is a go or no-go. - Don't use 3D layout not to say shadows. For some reason this looks old fashioned and antique. - Use the features of Windows. There's no reason to put a Close button on a form as every user knows how to close a window the native way. - Don't use multi-level switch board forms with buttons. The user quickly gets lost. Use a treeview style or Outlook style menu system as even the novice user understands this right away and feel in control from the first minute. - Be very careful with fonts. There must be _very_ good reasons for using anything else than the standard Microsoft fonts sans serif. The new Segoe UI is very good as are the classic "Secure web fonts". - Be careful with background pictures. They often distract more than they add, colours may be hard to control, and they often "disturb" by drawing the attention of the user for no reason. - Don't be afraid of using screen estate. It's better to use a larger form where proportions can be held nice than cram too much controls on a cluttered and tiny form. - Don't use too much screen estate. A terrible example is the Microsoft "ERP" package for the very small business (can't recall the name right now). /gustav >>> rockysmolin at bchacc.com 21-07-2008 16:29 >>> Dear List: This must be my day to ask for help. I want to give one of my apps a facelift - change the colors, fonts, controls - stuff like that - to look more moderne. So I guess I'm looking for some web sties that might have some screen shots of forms from which I could get some ideas. The current app forms can be seen at http://www.e-z-mrp.com/ss_mainmenu.htm. So you can see what I mean - functional but not beautiful. What colors do you all favor for backcolors and forcolors? Fonts? Any suggestions welcome. MTIA, Rocky Smolin Beach Access Software 858-259-4334 www.e-z-mrp.com www.bchacc.com From Gustav at cactus.dk Mon Jul 21 11:10:07 2008 From: Gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock) Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2008 18:10:07 +0200 Subject: [AccessD] Open all forms Message-ID: Hi Rocky In my experience, Arial is a bad choice for a screen font. Indeed digits don't come out nice. Verdana and Tahoma or the new Segoe are much to prefer - or Trebucket (one of my favorites) if you can get away with it! /gustav >>> rockysmolin at bchacc.com 21-07-2008 17:25 >>> .. I can change the Times font to Arial or Tahoma .. From dwaters at usinternet.com Mon Jul 21 11:11:48 2008 From: dwaters at usinternet.com (Dan Waters) Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2008 11:11:48 -0500 Subject: [AccessD] Facelift for my App In-Reply-To: <007201c8eb49$3f8aa550$0301a8c0@HAL9005> References: <005001c8eb3e$3018f1e0$0301a8c0@HAL9005><88CEDCF45A88419EAC85E71AA7195857@danwaters> <007201c8eb49$3f8aa550$0301a8c0@HAL9005> Message-ID: <588486A257024394B1CB6219722C4226@danwaters> Yes - that can be done, but I haven't tried. It looked like one of those things that took a while to learn, but could be really useful. It gives you the ability to have more than 4 formats for one control. I'm 'think' that conditional formatting can be modified in code without going into design mode. Dan -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Rocky Smolin at Beach Access Software Sent: Monday, July 21, 2008 10:49 AM To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' Subject: Re: [AccessD] Facelift for my App Dan: I just tried the pale yellow conditional formatting when the control has the focus. I like that. But apparently you can't select multiple controls and do them all at once - have to do them one at a time. Do you know if conditional formatting can be done through code - opening the form in design view, scanning the controls for text and combo boxes and setting the conditional formatting? TIA Rocky Smolin Beach Access Software 858-259-4334 www.e-z-mrp.com www.bchacc.com -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Dan Waters Sent: Monday, July 21, 2008 8:13 AM To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' Subject: Re: [AccessD] Facelift for my App Hi Rocky, Suggestions: 1) Use the Flat special effect for all controls - looks more elegant & less tiring on the eyes. Don't use raised boxes. 2) Don't use Times font. Tahoma is good, or try Arial. 3) Use conditional formatting to highlight the control that has the focus. I use a pastel yellow. Don't do this with locked controls. 4) I'd reserve the word 'Exit' for exiting the program completely. i.e., Change 'Exit to Main Menu' to 'Go To Main Menu'. 5) Wherever possible, line up your controls both horizontally and vertically. On Supply Side Maintenance screen, Move the Lead Time control and the Qty. On Hand control to the right to line up the left sides with the controls above. 6) For control borders, try a light gray color. I use 11184810. 7) Tab controls might be helpful for similar tasks. 8) About 30% of my screens are colored - the rest are typical gray. Apply the same colors to common tasks - looks good this way. I've found that only 'pastel' colors are acceptable to look at over time. 9) You display your screenshots using Access 2003 format. The buttons have rounded corners which look a little better. Your organization and layout sure look good! I'll send you a document off-line which shows some of the above. HTH, Dan -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Rocky Smolin at Beach Access Software Sent: Monday, July 21, 2008 9:30 AM To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' Subject: [AccessD] Facelift for my App Dear List: This must be my day to ask for help. I want to give one of my apps a facelift - change the colors, fonts, controls - stuff like that - to look more moderne. So I guess I'm looking for some web sties that might have some screen shots of forms from which I could get some ideas. The current app forms can be seen at http://www.e-z-mrp.com/ss_mainmenu.htm. So you can see what I mean - functional but not beautiful. What colors do you all favor for backcolors and forcolors? Fonts? Any suggestions welcome. MTIA, Rocky Smolin Beach Access Software 858-259-4334 www.e-z-mrp.com www.bchacc.com -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From rockysmolin at bchacc.com Mon Jul 21 11:15:38 2008 From: rockysmolin at bchacc.com (Rocky Smolin at Beach Access Software) Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2008 09:15:38 -0700 Subject: [AccessD] Open all forms In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <008001c8eb4d$03b175f0$0301a8c0@HAL9005> Are Segoe and Trebucket going to be standard with older Windows? Rocky Smolin Beach Access Software 858-259-4334 www.e-z-mrp.com www.bchacc.com -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gustav Brock Sent: Monday, July 21, 2008 9:10 AM To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: Re: [AccessD] Open all forms Hi Rocky In my experience, Arial is a bad choice for a screen font. Indeed digits don't come out nice. Verdana and Tahoma or the new Segoe are much to prefer - or Trebucket (one of my favorites) if you can get away with it! /gustav >>> rockysmolin at bchacc.com 21-07-2008 17:25 >>> .. I can change the Times font to Arial or Tahoma .. -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From rockysmolin at bchacc.com Mon Jul 21 11:15:38 2008 From: rockysmolin at bchacc.com (Rocky Smolin at Beach Access Software) Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2008 09:15:38 -0700 Subject: [AccessD] Facelift for my App In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <008101c8eb4d$03d06fa0$0301a8c0@HAL9005> Gustav: Thanks for the SAP link. Very instructive. Although they seem to use a lot of gray. My current color choices are 12028002 for header/footer/detail section background, 16765875 for boxes - I use them to group controls, and 8388608 for the forecolor for labels and text boxes. Rocky Smolin Beach Access Software 858-259-4334 www.e-z-mrp.com www.bchacc.com -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gustav Brock Sent: Monday, July 21, 2008 9:03 AM To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: Re: [AccessD] Facelift for my App Hi Rocky First, this is very difficult. If in doubt, study the Access samples available around. 95% look terrible as if no efforts in design and layout have been done. Second, a good design is extremely important. We as developers don't like it, but the fact is, that to the new user the appearance of your app is the first impression. In ten seconds he/she will decide if this looks trustworthy (professional) or not. If yes, your first battle is won; if no, you have to fight hard to convince the user. An excellent example I can find for you is SAP Business One, the baby of the SAP product line. This is what to expect for an app in the $ 1000-2000 per seat price range. Select "View the demo" here and study _all_ the small sessions. Notice the highlighting of the focused control: http://www.sap.com/asia/smallbusiness/solutions/demos/index.epx It follows all the guide lines I have collected through the years (no, SAP didn't call me) and most books on the topic list these too. Here are 10 major points: - Use a calm and absolutely consistent form layout. Stay away from any "smart" twists; chances are that the user can't see anything smart about it. - Don't ever use grey (except for decoration or the like). - Use pale colours of a limited palette except for text and icons. This palette and the guide lines for its use are so difficult to build that most people either can't or won't use the time needed for experiments and will be better off hiring a professional graphics artist. I'm not kidding - I spent two weeks for this alone for the app I'm currently developing moving between Windows XP and Vista. The final result will probably look "female". Don't be afraid of that. I always ask my female coworkers if they like what I have created. To me this test is a go or no-go. - Don't use 3D layout not to say shadows. For some reason this looks old fashioned and antique. - Use the features of Windows. There's no reason to put a Close button on a form as every user knows how to close a window the native way. - Don't use multi-level switch board forms with buttons. The user quickly gets lost. Use a treeview style or Outlook style menu system as even the novice user understands this right away and feel in control from the first minute. - Be very careful with fonts. There must be _very_ good reasons for using anything else than the standard Microsoft fonts sans serif. The new Segoe UI is very good as are the classic "Secure web fonts". - Be careful with background pictures. They often distract more than they add, colours may be hard to control, and they often "disturb" by drawing the attention of the user for no reason. - Don't be afraid of using screen estate. It's better to use a larger form where proportions can be held nice than cram too much controls on a cluttered and tiny form. - Don't use too much screen estate. A terrible example is the Microsoft "ERP" package for the very small business (can't recall the name right now). /gustav >>> rockysmolin at bchacc.com 21-07-2008 16:29 >>> Dear List: This must be my day to ask for help. I want to give one of my apps a facelift - change the colors, fonts, controls - stuff like that - to look more moderne. So I guess I'm looking for some web sties that might have some screen shots of forms from which I could get some ideas. The current app forms can be seen at http://www.e-z-mrp.com/ss_mainmenu.htm. So you can see what I mean - functional but not beautiful. What colors do you all favor for backcolors and forcolors? Fonts? Any suggestions welcome. MTIA, Rocky Smolin Beach Access Software 858-259-4334 www.e-z-mrp.com www.bchacc.com -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From ssharkins at gmail.com Mon Jul 21 11:20:30 2008 From: ssharkins at gmail.com (Susan Harkins) Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2008 12:20:30 -0400 Subject: [AccessD] Set color defaults for objects (Re: Facelift for my App) References: <008101c8eb4d$03d06fa0$0301a8c0@HAL9005> Message-ID: <025d01c8eb4d$b3278560$2f8601c7@SusanOne> While we're on this subject, I thought I'd mention a great timesaver that some of you might not know about -- you can great your own template forms and reports using the color scheme, etc. of your choice. Then, when you generate a new form or report, it automatically defaults to your color scheme instead of Access' defaults -- sure beats the blazes out of resetting each form. If you don't know how to do this, let me know, I'll post some simple instructions. Susan H. > Gustav: > > Thanks for the SAP link. Very instructive. Although they seem to use a > lot > of gray. > > My current color choices are 12028002 for header/footer/detail section > background, 16765875 for boxes - I use them to group controls, and 8388608 > for the forecolor for labels and text boxes. > > > Rocky Smolin > Beach Access Software > 858-259-4334 > www.e-z-mrp.com > www.bchacc.com > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gustav Brock > Sent: Monday, July 21, 2008 9:03 AM > To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com > Subject: Re: [AccessD] Facelift for my App > > Hi Rocky > > First, this is very difficult. If in doubt, study the Access samples > available around. 95% look terrible as if no efforts in design and layout > have been done. > > Second, a good design is extremely important. We as developers don't like > it, but the fact is, that to the new user the appearance of your app is > the > first impression. In ten seconds he/she will decide if this looks > trustworthy (professional) or not. If yes, your first battle is won; if > no, > you have to fight hard to convince the user. > > An excellent example I can find for you is SAP Business One, the baby of > the > SAP product line. This is what to expect for an app in the $ 1000-2000 per > seat price range. > Select "View the demo" here and study _all_ the small sessions. Notice the > highlighting of the focused control: > > http://www.sap.com/asia/smallbusiness/solutions/demos/index.epx > > It follows all the guide lines I have collected through the years (no, SAP > didn't call me) and most books on the topic list these too. > > Here are 10 major points: > > - Use a calm and absolutely consistent form layout. Stay away from any > "smart" twists; chances are that the user can't see anything smart about > it. > - Don't ever use grey (except for decoration or the like). > - Use pale colours of a limited palette except for text and icons. > This palette and the guide lines for its use are so difficult to build > that > most people either can't or won't use the time needed for experiments and > will be better off hiring a professional graphics artist. I'm not > kidding - > I spent two weeks for this alone for the app I'm currently developing > moving > between Windows XP and Vista. > The final result will probably look "female". Don't be afraid of that. I > always ask my female coworkers if they like what I have created. To me > this > test is a go or no-go. > > - Don't use 3D layout not to say shadows. For some reason this looks old > fashioned and antique. > - Use the features of Windows. There's no reason to put a Close button on > a > form as every user knows how to close a window the native way. > - Don't use multi-level switch board forms with buttons. The user quickly > gets lost. Use a treeview style or Outlook style menu system as even the > novice user understands this right away and feel in control from the first > minute. > - Be very careful with fonts. There must be _very_ good reasons for using > anything else than the standard Microsoft fonts sans serif. The new Segoe > UI > is very good as are the classic "Secure web fonts". > - Be careful with background pictures. They often distract more than they > add, colours may be hard to control, and they often "disturb" by drawing > the > attention of the user for no reason. > - Don't be afraid of using screen estate. It's better to use a larger form > where proportions can be held nice than cram too much controls on a > cluttered and tiny form. > - Don't use too much screen estate. A terrible example is the Microsoft > "ERP" package for the very small business (can't recall the name right > now). > > /gustav > >>>> rockysmolin at bchacc.com 21-07-2008 16:29 >>> > Dear List: > > This must be my day to ask for help. I want to give one of my apps a > facelift - change the colors, fonts, controls - stuff like that - to look > more moderne. > > So I guess I'm looking for some web sties that might have some screen > shots > of forms from which I could get some ideas. > > The current app forms can be seen at > http://www.e-z-mrp.com/ss_mainmenu.htm. > So you can see what I mean - functional but not beautiful. > > What colors do you all favor for backcolors and forcolors? Fonts? > > Any suggestions welcome. > > > MTIA, > > Rocky Smolin > > Beach Access Software > > 858-259-4334 > > www.e-z-mrp.com > > www.bchacc.com > > > > -- > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > -- > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From Gustav at cactus.dk Mon Jul 21 11:25:12 2008 From: Gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock) Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2008 18:25:12 +0200 Subject: [AccessD] Facelift for my App Message-ID: Hi Rocky Well, that's what I mean. Look again and pay attention to the details. The only gray is the background of the toolbar! /gustav >>> rockysmolin at bchacc.com 21-07-2008 18:15 >>> Gustav: Thanks for the SAP link. Very instructive. Although they seem to use a lot of gray. My current color choices are 12028002 for header/footer/detail section background, 16765875 for boxes - I use them to group controls, and 8388608 for the forecolor for labels and text boxes. Rocky Smolin Beach Access Software 858-259-4334 www.e-z-mrp.com www.bchacc.com -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gustav Brock Sent: Monday, July 21, 2008 9:03 AM To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: Re: [AccessD] Facelift for my App Hi Rocky First, this is very difficult. If in doubt, study the Access samples available around. 95% look terrible as if no efforts in design and layout have been done. Second, a good design is extremely important. We as developers don't like it, but the fact is, that to the new user the appearance of your app is the first impression. In ten seconds he/she will decide if this looks trustworthy (professional) or not. If yes, your first battle is won; if no, you have to fight hard to convince the user. An excellent example I can find for you is SAP Business One, the baby of the SAP product line. This is what to expect for an app in the $ 1000-2000 per seat price range. Select "View the demo" here and study _all_ the small sessions. Notice the highlighting of the focused control: http://www.sap.com/asia/smallbusiness/solutions/demos/index.epx It follows all the guide lines I have collected through the years (no, SAP didn't call me) and most books on the topic list these too. Here are 10 major points: - Use a calm and absolutely consistent form layout. Stay away from any "smart" twists; chances are that the user can't see anything smart about it. - Don't ever use grey (except for decoration or the like). - Use pale colours of a limited palette except for text and icons. This palette and the guide lines for its use are so difficult to build that most people either can't or won't use the time needed for experiments and will be better off hiring a professional graphics artist. I'm not kidding - I spent two weeks for this alone for the app I'm currently developing moving between Windows XP and Vista. The final result will probably look "female". Don't be afraid of that. I always ask my female coworkers if they like what I have created. To me this test is a go or no-go. - Don't use 3D layout not to say shadows. For some reason this looks old fashioned and antique. - Use the features of Windows. There's no reason to put a Close button on a form as every user knows how to close a window the native way. - Don't use multi-level switch board forms with buttons. The user quickly gets lost. Use a treeview style or Outlook style menu system as even the novice user understands this right away and feel in control from the first minute. - Be very careful with fonts. There must be _very_ good reasons for using anything else than the standard Microsoft fonts sans serif. The new Segoe UI is very good as are the classic "Secure web fonts". - Be careful with background pictures. They often distract more than they add, colours may be hard to control, and they often "disturb" by drawing the attention of the user for no reason. - Don't be afraid of using screen estate. It's better to use a larger form where proportions can be held nice than cram too much controls on a cluttered and tiny form. - Don't use too much screen estate. A terrible example is the Microsoft "ERP" package for the very small business (can't recall the name right now). /gustav >>> rockysmolin at bchacc.com 21-07-2008 16:29 >>> Dear List: This must be my day to ask for help. I want to give one of my apps a facelift - change the colors, fonts, controls - stuff like that - to look more moderne. So I guess I'm looking for some web sties that might have some screen shots of forms from which I could get some ideas. The current app forms can be seen at http://www.e-z-mrp.com/ss_mainmenu.htm. So you can see what I mean - functional but not beautiful. What colors do you all favor for backcolors and forcolors? Fonts? Any suggestions welcome. MTIA, Rocky Smolin Beach Access Software 858-259-4334 www.e-z-mrp.com www.bchacc.com From Gustav at cactus.dk Mon Jul 21 11:28:44 2008 From: Gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock) Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2008 18:28:44 +0200 Subject: [AccessD] Open all forms Message-ID: Hi Rocky Not Segoe but Trebucket is on most newer machines. If you wish to have zero trouble with fonts use MS Sans Serif, the old bitmapped font. Actually it is very good (and digits are mono spaced) and has been with Windows since Windows 1.0. /gustav >>> rockysmolin at bchacc.com 21-07-2008 18:15 >>> Are Segoe and Trebucket going to be standard with older Windows? Rocky Smolin Beach Access Software 858-259-4334 www.e-z-mrp.com www.bchacc.com -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gustav Brock Sent: Monday, July 21, 2008 9:10 AM To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: Re: [AccessD] Open all forms Hi Rocky In my experience, Arial is a bad choice for a screen font. Indeed digits don't come out nice. Verdana and Tahoma or the new Segoe are much to prefer - or Trebucket (one of my favorites) if you can get away with it! /gustav >>> rockysmolin at bchacc.com 21-07-2008 17:25 >>> .. I can change the Times font to Arial or Tahoma .. From dwaters at usinternet.com Mon Jul 21 11:33:31 2008 From: dwaters at usinternet.com (Dan Waters) Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2008 11:33:31 -0500 Subject: [AccessD] Facelift for my App In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <88298C1E07794CCDAE104EB4E572015F@danwaters> Hi Gustav, I really like your points here. I've had the same experience with male/female differences of opinion on the UI. I think that men typically don't care much about the UI - its look or efficiency - unless something is really wrong. Women will notice either way. I've also learned to ask my female customers for UI opinions because the guys all just say, "It's fine." I just looked at Segoe UI - it's pretty attractive. Rounder than Tahoma, but it does take up more space. Dan -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gustav Brock Sent: Monday, July 21, 2008 11:03 AM To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: Re: [AccessD] Facelift for my App Hi Rocky First, this is very difficult. If in doubt, study the Access samples available around. 95% look terrible as if no efforts in design and layout have been done. Second, a good design is extremely important. We as developers don't like it, but the fact is, that to the new user the appearance of your app is the first impression. In ten seconds he/she will decide if this looks trustworthy (professional) or not. If yes, your first battle is won; if no, you have to fight hard to convince the user. An excellent example I can find for you is SAP Business One, the baby of the SAP product line. This is what to expect for an app in the $ 1000-2000 per seat price range. Select "View the demo" here and study _all_ the small sessions. Notice the highlighting of the focused control: http://www.sap.com/asia/smallbusiness/solutions/demos/index.epx It follows all the guide lines I have collected through the years (no, SAP didn't call me) and most books on the topic list these too. Here are 10 major points: - Use a calm and absolutely consistent form layout. Stay away from any "smart" twists; chances are that the user can't see anything smart about it. - Don't ever use grey (except for decoration or the like). - Use pale colours of a limited palette except for text and icons. This palette and the guide lines for its use are so difficult to build that most people either can't or won't use the time needed for experiments and will be better off hiring a professional graphics artist. I'm not kidding - I spent two weeks for this alone for the app I'm currently developing moving between Windows XP and Vista. The final result will probably look "female". Don't be afraid of that. I always ask my female coworkers if they like what I have created. To me this test is a go or no-go. - Don't use 3D layout not to say shadows. For some reason this looks old fashioned and antique. - Use the features of Windows. There's no reason to put a Close button on a form as every user knows how to close a window the native way. - Don't use multi-level switch board forms with buttons. The user quickly gets lost. Use a treeview style or Outlook style menu system as even the novice user understands this right away and feel in control from the first minute. - Be very careful with fonts. There must be _very_ good reasons for using anything else than the standard Microsoft fonts sans serif. The new Segoe UI is very good as are the classic "Secure web fonts". - Be careful with background pictures. They often distract more than they add, colours may be hard to control, and they often "disturb" by drawing the attention of the user for no reason. - Don't be afraid of using screen estate. It's better to use a larger form where proportions can be held nice than cram too much controls on a cluttered and tiny form. - Don't use too much screen estate. A terrible example is the Microsoft "ERP" package for the very small business (can't recall the name right now). /gustav >>> rockysmolin at bchacc.com 21-07-2008 16:29 >>> Dear List: This must be my day to ask for help. I want to give one of my apps a facelift - change the colors, fonts, controls - stuff like that - to look more moderne. So I guess I'm looking for some web sties that might have some screen shots of forms from which I could get some ideas. The current app forms can be seen at http://www.e-z-mrp.com/ss_mainmenu.htm. So you can see what I mean - functional but not beautiful. What colors do you all favor for backcolors and forcolors? Fonts? Any suggestions welcome. MTIA, Rocky Smolin Beach Access Software 858-259-4334 www.e-z-mrp.com www.bchacc.com -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From dwaters at usinternet.com Mon Jul 21 11:43:25 2008 From: dwaters at usinternet.com (Dan Waters) Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2008 11:43:25 -0500 Subject: [AccessD] Package Wizard and Access Runtime Message-ID: I'm testing an installation package with a bare-bones Access file, primarily just to test the installation of an Access runtime. The installation went well, but when I try to uninstall the runtime, it really won't install. I removed full office 2003 from my test PC first. I do have admin rights on the test PC. I've heard that using other installer applications do a better job - but I'm installing the runtime at just one client site. Anyone know what I could expect to pay for Sagekey? Or other installers? Thanks! Dan From Gustav at cactus.dk Mon Jul 21 11:45:17 2008 From: Gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock) Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2008 18:45:17 +0200 Subject: [AccessD] Facelift for my App Message-ID: Hi Dan > I've also learned to ask my female customers for UI opinions because > the guys all just say, "It's fine." Exactly! Don't know why it is this way. Strange. /gustav >>> dwaters at usinternet.com 21-07-2008 18:33 >>> Hi Gustav, I really like your points here. I've had the same experience with male/female differences of opinion on the UI. I think that men typically don't care much about the UI - its look or efficiency - unless something is really wrong. Women will notice either way. I've also learned to ask my female customers for UI opinions because the guys all just say, "It's fine." I just looked at Segoe UI - it's pretty attractive. Rounder than Tahoma, but it does take up more space. Dan From rockysmolin at bchacc.com Mon Jul 21 12:23:35 2008 From: rockysmolin at bchacc.com (Rocky Smolin at Beach Access Software) Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2008 10:23:35 -0700 Subject: [AccessD] Package Wizard and Access Runtime In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <008b01c8eb56$81c89460$0301a8c0@HAL9005> Sagekey ain't cheap but I use it and it was worth the $. Current pricing: https://www.sagekey.com/order.aspx Rocky Smolin Beach Access Software 858-259-4334 www.e-z-mrp.com www.bchacc.com -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Dan Waters Sent: Monday, July 21, 2008 9:43 AM To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' Subject: [AccessD] Package Wizard and Access Runtime I'm testing an installation package with a bare-bones Access file, primarily just to test the installation of an Access runtime. The installation went well, but when I try to uninstall the runtime, it really won't install. I removed full office 2003 from my test PC first. I do have admin rights on the test PC. I've heard that using other installer applications do a better job - but I'm installing the runtime at just one client site. Anyone know what I could expect to pay for Sagekey? Or other installers? Thanks! Dan -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From andy at minstersystems.co.uk Mon Jul 21 12:30:25 2008 From: andy at minstersystems.co.uk (Andy Lacey) Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2008 18:30:25 +0100 Subject: [AccessD] Open all forms In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <3EFB6A27F62E400A8B7E4570528C854A@minster33c3r25> Hi Rocky This might do what you're after Dim dbs As Database Dim Ctr As Container Dim Doc As Document Set dbs = CurrentDb Set Ctr = dbs.Containers!Forms ' Enumerate through Documents collection of Forms container. For Each Doc In Ctr.Documents DoCmd.OpenForm Doc.Name, acDesign Forms(0).CloseButton = False DoCmd.Close acForm, Doc.Name Next Doc Then set stuff to Nothing at the end. -- Andy Lacey http://www.minstersystems.co.uk >-----Original Message----- >From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com >[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gustav Brock >Sent: 21 July 2008 17:29 >To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com >Subject: Re: [AccessD] Open all forms > > >Hi Rocky > >Not Segoe but Trebucket is on most newer machines. >If you wish to have zero trouble with fonts use MS Sans Serif, >the old bitmapped font. Actually it is very good (and digits >are mono spaced) and has been with Windows since Windows 1.0. > >/gustav > >>>> rockysmolin at bchacc.com 21-07-2008 18:15 >>> >Are Segoe and Trebucket going to be standard with older Windows? > > >Rocky Smolin >Beach Access Software >858-259-4334 >www.e-z-mrp.com >www.bchacc.com > > > >-----Original Message----- >From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com >[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gustav Brock >Sent: Monday, July 21, 2008 9:10 AM >To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com >Subject: Re: [AccessD] Open all forms > >Hi Rocky > >In my experience, Arial is a bad choice for a screen font. >Indeed digits don't come out nice. Verdana and Tahoma or the >new Segoe are much to prefer >- or Trebucket (one of my favorites) if you can get away with it! > >/gustav > >>>> rockysmolin at bchacc.com 21-07-2008 17:25 >>> > >.. I can change the Times font to Arial or Tahoma .. > > > >-- >AccessD mailing list >AccessD at databaseadvisors.com >http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd >Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > From rockysmolin at bchacc.com Mon Jul 21 12:51:34 2008 From: rockysmolin at bchacc.com (Rocky Smolin at Beach Access Software) Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2008 10:51:34 -0700 Subject: [AccessD] Open all forms In-Reply-To: <3EFB6A27F62E400A8B7E4570528C854A@minster33c3r25> References: <3EFB6A27F62E400A8B7E4570528C854A@minster33c3r25> Message-ID: <008d01c8eb5a$6a92d1d0$0301a8c0@HAL9005> Andy: Worked perfectly. Now I'm going to cycle through al the controls and change the font name. Which I think I can do. But I'd like to add conditional formatting to each text box so that it shows pale yellow background when it has the focus. Apparently you can only do this manually one control at a time - won't do multiple selections. So that could be tedious. Any ideas how to do that while I've got the form open in design mode? Rocky Smolin Beach Access Software 858-259-4334 www.e-z-mrp.com www.bchacc.com -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Andy Lacey Sent: Monday, July 21, 2008 10:30 AM To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' Subject: Re: [AccessD] Open all forms Hi Rocky This might do what you're after Dim dbs As Database Dim Ctr As Container Dim Doc As Document Set dbs = CurrentDb Set Ctr = dbs.Containers!Forms ' Enumerate through Documents collection of Forms container. For Each Doc In Ctr.Documents DoCmd.OpenForm Doc.Name, acDesign Forms(0).CloseButton = False DoCmd.Close acForm, Doc.Name Next Doc Then set stuff to Nothing at the end. -- Andy Lacey http://www.minstersystems.co.uk >-----Original Message----- >From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com >[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gustav Brock >Sent: 21 July 2008 17:29 >To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com >Subject: Re: [AccessD] Open all forms > > >Hi Rocky > >Not Segoe but Trebucket is on most newer machines. >If you wish to have zero trouble with fonts use MS Sans Serif, the old >bitmapped font. Actually it is very good (and digits are mono spaced) >and has been with Windows since Windows 1.0. > >/gustav > >>>> rockysmolin at bchacc.com 21-07-2008 18:15 >>> >Are Segoe and Trebucket going to be standard with older Windows? > > >Rocky Smolin >Beach Access Software >858-259-4334 >www.e-z-mrp.com >www.bchacc.com > > > >-----Original Message----- >From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com >[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gustav Brock >Sent: Monday, July 21, 2008 9:10 AM >To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com >Subject: Re: [AccessD] Open all forms > >Hi Rocky > >In my experience, Arial is a bad choice for a screen font. >Indeed digits don't come out nice. Verdana and Tahoma or the new Segoe >are much to prefer >- or Trebucket (one of my favorites) if you can get away with it! > >/gustav > >>>> rockysmolin at bchacc.com 21-07-2008 17:25 >>> > >.. I can change the Times font to Arial or Tahoma .. > > > >-- >AccessD mailing list >AccessD at databaseadvisors.com >http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd >Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From cfoust at infostatsystems.com Mon Jul 21 13:20:57 2008 From: cfoust at infostatsystems.com (Charlotte Foust) Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2008 11:20:57 -0700 Subject: [AccessD] Package Wizard and Access Runtime In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: SageKey isn't an installer, it's an app to create a script used by the installers. I've used InstallShield and been happy with it. Our office has used Wise in the past and is now using InstallShield with SageKey scripts. The installers are fairly pricey, but I'm unfamiliar with the SageKey pricing since I've never had to buy it. Charlotte Foust -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Dan Waters Sent: Monday, July 21, 2008 9:43 AM To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' Subject: [AccessD] Package Wizard and Access Runtime I'm testing an installation package with a bare-bones Access file, primarily just to test the installation of an Access runtime. The installation went well, but when I try to uninstall the runtime, it really won't install. I removed full office 2003 from my test PC first. I do have admin rights on the test PC. I've heard that using other installer applications do a better job - but I'm installing the runtime at just one client site. Anyone know what I could expect to pay for Sagekey? Or other installers? Thanks! Dan -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From dwaters at usinternet.com Mon Jul 21 13:26:40 2008 From: dwaters at usinternet.com (Dan Waters) Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2008 13:26:40 -0500 Subject: [AccessD] Package Wizard and Access Runtime In-Reply-To: <008b01c8eb56$81c89460$0301a8c0@HAL9005> References: <008b01c8eb56$81c89460$0301a8c0@HAL9005> Message-ID: <9114FE0EEE544F36A8D99E3D67C1F617@danwaters> Thanks for this link Rocky. I'm only doing this for a single customer so that investment is something I want to avoid. Dan -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Rocky Smolin at Beach Access Software Sent: Monday, July 21, 2008 12:24 PM To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' Subject: Re: [AccessD] Package Wizard and Access Runtime Sagekey ain't cheap but I use it and it was worth the $. Current pricing: https://www.sagekey.com/order.aspx Rocky Smolin Beach Access Software 858-259-4334 www.e-z-mrp.com www.bchacc.com -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Dan Waters Sent: Monday, July 21, 2008 9:43 AM To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' Subject: [AccessD] Package Wizard and Access Runtime I'm testing an installation package with a bare-bones Access file, primarily just to test the installation of an Access runtime. The installation went well, but when I try to uninstall the runtime, it really won't install. I removed full office 2003 from my test PC first. I do have admin rights on the test PC. I've heard that using other installer applications do a better job - but I'm installing the runtime at just one client site. Anyone know what I could expect to pay for Sagekey? Or other installers? Thanks! Dan -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From krosenstiel at comcast.net Mon Jul 21 13:42:09 2008 From: krosenstiel at comcast.net (Karen Rosenstiel) Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2008 11:42:09 -0700 Subject: [AccessD] Facelift for my App In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <200807211841.m6LIfr4V016465@databaseadvisors.com> It has been my observation that if you ask a man what color something green is, they'll say "Green." If you ask a woman the same question, she'll say, "Teal, avocado, lime, forest, hunter, kelly, aqua ..... Etc." Another point is that, in reality, it's the women in the office who will be using your database the most -- they are probably the ones who do the data entry and produce the reports. Keep 'em happy! Regards, Karen Rosenstiel Seattle WA USA -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gustav Brock Sent: Monday, July 21, 2008 9:45 AM To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: Re: [AccessD] Facelift for my App Hi Dan > I've also learned to ask my female customers for UI opinions because > the guys all just say, "It's fine." Exactly! Don't know why it is this way. Strange. /gustav >>> dwaters at usinternet.com 21-07-2008 18:33 >>> Hi Gustav, I really like your points here. I've had the same experience with male/female differences of opinion on the UI. I think that men typically don't care much about the UI - its look or efficiency - unless something is really wrong. Women will notice either way. I've also learned to ask my female customers for UI opinions because the guys all just say, "It's fine." I just looked at Segoe UI - it's pretty attractive. Rounder than Tahoma, but it does take up more space. Dan -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 270.5.3/1564 - Release Date: 7/21/2008 6:42 AM No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 270.5.3/1564 - Release Date: 7/21/2008 6:42 AM From krosenstiel at comcast.net Mon Jul 21 13:47:05 2008 From: krosenstiel at comcast.net (Karen Rosenstiel) Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2008 11:47:05 -0700 Subject: [AccessD] Open all forms In-Reply-To: <008001c8eb4d$03b175f0$0301a8c0@HAL9005> Message-ID: <200807211846.m6LIkmhe019072@databaseadvisors.com> Segoe is new with Vista but is a True Type font. By the way, I think Gustav meant "Trebuchet" which has been one of the standard Windows fonts for some time. I would be careful with using Segoe, unless you install it with your product, as most machines probably won't have it yet. For my web work, I would only use it for graphic titles/headers, not the main text for some years to come. But Trebuchet is very common and usable. Regards, Karen Rosenstiel Seattle WA USA -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Rocky Smolin at Beach Access Software Sent: Monday, July 21, 2008 9:16 AM To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' Subject: Re: [AccessD] Open all forms Are Segoe and Trebucket going to be standard with older Windows? Rocky Smolin Beach Access Software 858-259-4334 www.e-z-mrp.com www.bchacc.com -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gustav Brock Sent: Monday, July 21, 2008 9:10 AM To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: Re: [AccessD] Open all forms Hi Rocky In my experience, Arial is a bad choice for a screen font. Indeed digits don't come out nice. Verdana and Tahoma or the new Segoe are much to prefer - or Trebucket (one of my favorites) if you can get away with it! /gustav >>> rockysmolin at bchacc.com 21-07-2008 17:25 >>> .. I can change the Times font to Arial or Tahoma .. -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 270.5.3/1564 - Release Date: 7/21/2008 6:42 AM No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 270.5.3/1564 - Release Date: 7/21/2008 6:42 AM From newsgrps at dalyn.co.nz Mon Jul 21 13:50:50 2008 From: newsgrps at dalyn.co.nz (David Emerson) Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 06:50:50 +1200 Subject: [AccessD] Stop Access Opening Exclusive In-Reply-To: <001e01c8eb13$b1373370$6401a8c0@DELLAPTOP> References: <20080721025556.VTEG7045.mta05.xtra.co.nz@Dalyn.dalyn.co.nz> <001e01c8eb13$b1373370$6401a8c0@DELLAPTOP> Message-ID: <20080721185020.XEEO22468.mta07.xtra.co.nz@Dalyn.dalyn.co.nz> I have checked on their computer - This property doesn't appear in the Tools, Options, Advanced tab (Access 2003) David At 21/07/2008, you wrote: >David - >Might be worth getting your client to check under Tools, Options, Advanced, >then check whether the 'default open mode' is set to Shared or Exclusive? > >Kath > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "David Emerson" >To: >Sent: Monday, July 21, 2008 12:56 PM >Subject: [AccessD] Stop Access Opening Exclusive > > > >I have a client that has a shortcut to a database that just has the > > name of the database (without the full path of Access before > > it). Windows explorer has the file type associated with Access (he > > is running 2003). > > > > When the shortcut is clicked the file seems to open in exclusive mode > > so that when another user opens the database it is read only (and a > > message appears to tell them). Since it is an MDE it doesn't matter > > as the data in the SQL backend can be changed anyway. But it is > > annoying having the warning message pop up. How can I change the > > shortcut/application so that it doesn't default to exclusive? > > > > Regards > > > > David Emerson > > Dalyn Software Ltd > > Wellington, New Zealand > > > > -- > > AccessD mailing list > > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > > > >-- >AccessD mailing list >AccessD at databaseadvisors.com >http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd >Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From newsgrps at dalyn.co.nz Mon Jul 21 13:54:20 2008 From: newsgrps at dalyn.co.nz (David Emerson) Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 06:54:20 +1200 Subject: [AccessD] Stop Access Opening Exclusive Message-ID: <20080721185348.LHYV7045.mta05.xtra.co.nz@Dalyn.dalyn.co.nz> I found that the folder on the server that the database was in was set to read only :'( This seems to have fixed it but I need to test it with more users on. David At 21/07/2008, you wrote: >David - >Might be worth getting your client to check under Tools, Options, Advanced, >then check whether the 'default open mode' is set to Shared or Exclusive? > >Kath > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "David Emerson" >To: >Sent: Monday, July 21, 2008 12:56 PM >Subject: [AccessD] Stop Access Opening Exclusive > > > >I have a client that has a shortcut to a database that just has the > > name of the database (without the full path of Access before > > it). Windows explorer has the file type associated with Access (he > > is running 2003). > > > > When the shortcut is clicked the file seems to open in exclusive mode > > so that when another user opens the database it is read only (and a > > message appears to tell them). Since it is an MDE it doesn't matter > > as the data in the SQL backend can be changed anyway. But it is > > annoying having the warning message pop up. How can I change the > > shortcut/application so that it doesn't default to exclusive? > > > > Regards > > > > David Emerson > > Dalyn Software Ltd > > Wellington, New Zealand > > > > -- > > AccessD mailing list > > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > > > >-- >AccessD mailing list >AccessD at databaseadvisors.com >http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd >Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From jedi at charm.net Mon Jul 21 16:42:05 2008 From: jedi at charm.net (Michael Bahr) Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2008 17:42:05 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [AccessD] Package Wizard and Access Runtime In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <2223.24.35.45.228.1216676525.squirrel@mail.expedient.net> Dan have you looked at http://nsis.sourceforge.net/Main_Page Mike... > I'm testing an installation package with a bare-bones Access file, > primarily > just to test the installation of an Access runtime. The installation went > well, but when I try to uninstall the runtime, it really won't install. > > I removed full office 2003 from my test PC first. I do have admin rights > on > the test PC. > > I've heard that using other installer applications do a better job - but > I'm > installing the runtime at just one client site. Anyone know what I could > expect to pay for Sagekey? Or other installers? > > Thanks! > Dan > > > > > -- > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > From miscellany at mvps.org Mon Jul 21 17:06:53 2008 From: miscellany at mvps.org (Steve Schapel) Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 10:06:53 +1200 Subject: [AccessD] Package Wizard and Access Runtime In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4885087D.4040207@mvps.org> Dan, You don't need an installer, under those circumstances. The advantages of using something like Sagekey scripts etc are: - avoid conflicts with pre-existing installations of earlier versions of Access - automatically create trusted location for your application - take care of registering add-ons or special fonts or whatnot In the case of an install just for one client, all of these are easily managed manually. Just? 1. Install the Access runtime on the client's machines, directly from http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyId=D9AE78D9-9DC6-4B38-9FA6-2C745A175AED&displaylang=en 2. Edit the Registry to make the trusted location. (I got a script somewhere to do this.) 3. Install any DLLs etc. 4. Put an applicable shortcut on the desktop. 5. Have a coffee. Regards Steve Dan Waters wrote: > I'm testing an installation package with a bare-bones Access file, primarily > just to test the installation of an Access runtime. The installation went > well, but when I try to uninstall the runtime, it really won't install. > > I removed full office 2003 from my test PC first. I do have admin rights on > the test PC. > > I've heard that using other installer applications do a better job - but I'm > installing the runtime at just one client site. Anyone know what I could > expect to pay for Sagekey? Or other installers? > > Thanks! > Dan From miscellany at mvps.org Mon Jul 21 17:10:31 2008 From: miscellany at mvps.org (Steve Schapel) Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 10:10:31 +1200 Subject: [AccessD] Report printed or previewed In-Reply-To: <006201c8e8f2$e7db0780$5a5ea27a@personald6374f> References: <487F0A23.10901@mvps.org> <006201c8e8f2$e7db0780$5a5ea27a@personald6374f> Message-ID: <48850957.4010202@mvps.org> Thank you very much for this ingenious idea, A.D. Expecting there to be no way, I have now tacked the problem in a different way. Besides, some of the reports I was looking at would be only 1 page. Nevertheless, your answer has given food for thought, and added to my knowledge and understanding of the report process. Regards Steve A.D.Tejpal wrote: > Steve, > > One way for programmatic detection of report's open status (Print or > Preview) could be by checking whether the print event of page header > on page 2 has fired closely after Page event on page 1. Of course > this presumes a report sized more than one page. > > Sample code in report's module, as given below, should be able to do > the needful. > > Detecting print preview status could be somewhat trickier, as the > report can sit on page 1 itself for a prolonged period. Thus we can > not keep waiting for the print event on page 2 to fire. For tackling > this situation, we can use form's Timer event. Sample code in form's > module, as given below, in conjunction with the global variable in > general module as shown, should be able to detect print preview > status of the report. > From dwaters at usinternet.com Mon Jul 21 17:12:01 2008 From: dwaters at usinternet.com (Dan Waters) Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2008 17:12:01 -0500 Subject: [AccessD] Package Wizard and Access Runtime In-Reply-To: <2223.24.35.45.228.1216676525.squirrel@mail.expedient.net> References: <2223.24.35.45.228.1216676525.squirrel@mail.expedient.net> Message-ID: <8A971A645DA24C85B8D62E965378AC18@danwaters> Hi Mike, This does look nice - but from what I can see it doesn't do Access Runtimes. Installing the Access runtimes successfully involves knowing what registry entries need to be modified under all the circumstances you might expect to see. Sagekey does do this but they charge $500 Wise / $700 Installshield. My single customer who doesn't have Access 2003 does have Access 2000, and I can remote in to their server. So, I'm going to spend a couple of days making slight modifications to suit their environment. Thanks! Dan -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Michael Bahr Sent: Monday, July 21, 2008 4:42 PM To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving Subject: Re: [AccessD] Package Wizard and Access Runtime Dan have you looked at http://nsis.sourceforge.net/Main_Page Mike... > I'm testing an installation package with a bare-bones Access file, > primarily > just to test the installation of an Access runtime. The installation went > well, but when I try to uninstall the runtime, it really won't install. > > I removed full office 2003 from my test PC first. I do have admin rights > on > the test PC. > > I've heard that using other installer applications do a better job - but > I'm > installing the runtime at just one client site. Anyone know what I could > expect to pay for Sagekey? Or other installers? > > Thanks! > Dan > > > > > -- > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From Darryl.Collins at coles.com.au Mon Jul 21 18:23:53 2008 From: Darryl.Collins at coles.com.au (Darryl Collins) Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 09:23:53 +1000 Subject: [AccessD] Creating Outlook macros In-Reply-To: <00a501c8eb2f$c21e3910$2f8601c7@SusanOne> Message-ID: <57E6E6CA42105A48B977303A2CDC2720076BF12D91@WPEXCH22.retail.ad.cmltd.net.au> I always try here first when I need help with outlook. http://www.slipstick.com hth Darryl -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Susan Harkins Sent: Monday, 21 July 2008 10:46 PM To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving Subject: Re: [AccessD] Creating Outlook macros Jim, even if you don't have experience, you can find just about anything you need online. Unless they need something really involved, I can't imagine why you couldn't do this yourself. Susan H. > Hi All: > > A client has requested that I find someone who has experience at creating > macros (other than the very basics) behind Outlook. If someone has this > expertise please contact me off-line. -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com This email and any attachments may contain privileged and confidential information and are intended for the named addressee only. If you have received this e-mail in error, please notify the sender and delete this e-mail immediately. Any confidentiality, privilege or copyright is not waived or lost because this e-mail has been sent to you in error. It is your responsibility to check this e-mail and any attachments for viruses. No warranty is made that this material is free from computer virus or any other defect or error. Any loss/damage incurred by using this material is not the sender's responsibility. The sender's entire liability will be limited to resupplying the material. From accessd at shaw.ca Mon Jul 21 18:33:04 2008 From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence) Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2008 16:33:04 -0700 Subject: [AccessD] Facelift for my App In-Reply-To: <005001c8eb3e$3018f1e0$0301a8c0@HAL9005> References: <005001c8eb3e$3018f1e0$0301a8c0@HAL9005> Message-ID: Hi Rocky: IMHO: 1. Lighter colours are better than darker colours. 2. The only serif fonts should be used in titles. 3. Pretty buttons are currently in vogue. 4. Outlines should be thin and light and if possible with curved corners. 5. All objects should have space around them. 6. A bit of graphic would go a long way to make the page look more sophisticated. Jim -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Rocky Smolin at Beach Access Software Sent: Monday, July 21, 2008 7:30 AM To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' Subject: [AccessD] Facelift for my App Dear List: This must be my day to ask for help. I want to give one of my apps a facelift - change the colors, fonts, controls - stuff like that - to look more moderne. So I guess I'm looking for some web sties that might have some screen shots of forms from which I could get some ideas. The current app forms can be seen at http://www.e-z-mrp.com/ss_mainmenu.htm. So you can see what I mean - functional but not beautiful. What colors do you all favor for backcolors and forcolors? Fonts? Any suggestions welcome. MTIA, Rocky Smolin Beach Access Software 858-259-4334 www.e-z-mrp.com www.bchacc.com -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From fuller.artful at gmail.com Mon Jul 21 18:55:06 2008 From: fuller.artful at gmail.com (Arthur Fuller) Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2008 20:55:06 -0300 Subject: [AccessD] Facelift for my App In-Reply-To: References: <005001c8eb3e$3018f1e0$0301a8c0@HAL9005> Message-ID: <29f585dd0807211655r6968e24fv9de2fc7aa7add90b@mail.gmail.com> Well since we're in IMO mode, I personally deem the greatest thing about A2K7 to be the NavBar. I have wanted the ability to deliver that in an Access app for ages, and not found a way to do it. You can customize that and present a "tree" of your own design, eliminating completely the default setup. And IMO this interface is beautiful. Yes I don't particularly like the default ribbon, and I don't know much about customizing it, so I just minimize it. But when I do so, I particularly love the way I can move through the Nav pane and open several forms and they automatically become tabs. And then I can generate a RunTime when I'm happy, and the user gets amazing flexibility in the end product. And besides, the RunTime has all the modern look and feel of A2K7, which you're not going to achieve with cheap tricks about flattening buttons etc. After delivering an app to a ministry in Ontario, I rewrote it in A2K7 on my own time and sent them a copy. They were blown away. I didn't even bill them, but they were so blown away they sent me a check anyway. A. On Mon, Jul 21, 2008 at 8:33 PM, Jim Lawrence wrote: > Hi Rocky: > > IMHO: > 1. Lighter colours are better than darker colours. > 2. The only serif fonts should be used in titles. > 3. Pretty buttons are currently in vogue. > 4. Outlines should be thin and light and if possible with curved corners. > 5. All objects should have space around them. > 6. A bit of graphic would go a long way to make the page look more > sophisticated. > > Jim > > -----Original Message----- > From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Rocky Smolin at > Beach Access Software > Sent: Monday, July 21, 2008 7:30 AM > To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' > Subject: [AccessD] Facelift for my App > > Dear List: > > This must be my day to ask for help. I want to give one of my apps a > facelift - change the colors, fonts, controls - stuff like that - to look > more moderne. > > So I guess I'm looking for some web sties that might have some screen shots > of forms from which I could get some ideas. > > The current app forms can be seen at > http://www.e-z-mrp.com/ss_mainmenu.htm. > So you can see what I mean - functional but not beautiful. > > What colors do you all favor for backcolors and forcolors? Fonts? > > Any suggestions welcome. > > > MTIA, > > Rocky Smolin > > Beach Access Software > > 858-259-4334 > > www.e-z-mrp.com > > www.bchacc.com > > > > > > > -- > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > -- > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > From Darryl.Collins at coles.com.au Mon Jul 21 18:56:18 2008 From: Darryl.Collins at coles.com.au (Darryl Collins) Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 09:56:18 +1000 Subject: [AccessD] Facelift for my App In-Reply-To: <005001c8eb3e$3018f1e0$0301a8c0@HAL9005> Message-ID: <57E6E6CA42105A48B977303A2CDC2720076BF12D92@WPEXCH22.retail.ad.cmltd.net.au> Hi Rocky, I read the replies before I got back to you so hopefully I don't repeat - I feel Dan has covered much of what need to be looked at already. I would consider taking an 'iPod' approach. Keep it very clean, simple with single or complementary colours. Consider getting rid of the buttons altogether and using hyperlinked text to do the job. Dan's point on the font is spot on - you need to use a more modern looking font. I would also remove the sunken boxes, raised boxes and etched frames. On the data entry fields I like to use colours to help the user. All free form data entry fields I use a dark blue font on a light green background. All combo boxes I use a dark maroon font on a light yellow background. All locked fields I use a dark grey font on a light grey background. This helps the user understand exactly what is required in each field from them - and what their options are. I would remove the green colour on the screen background. Just make the entire sceen one colour with a single bar top and bottom where the form header ends and the form footer starts. -- Main Menu -- Use frames with tiles for the three menu grouping - consider dropping the buttons altogether and using hyperlinked text to jump to the form you want. This look a lot cleaner and takes up much less space than using buttons. The header should be the same colour as the rest of the form. Consider making the entire screen white including the background. Make the backgound and boxes around the date and current database flat and plain - You could also make the font 70% grey or so. -- Part Master Maint Form -- I would put all the navigation buttons in a close group (touching) Consider making the "Add" "Delete" etc buttons all the same size. -- Bill of Material Form -- Header is a different colour - this is a total 'no-no'. Be consistent (it is white on the Part Master Maint. Form and gray here) Consider using frames rather than the raised boxes. -- Supply Side Maint Form -- I find the sub form nav buttons and the main form nav buttons confusing. I would frame the sub form and put the nav buttons within that frame. I would put all the navigation buttons in a close group (touching) -- Supply Side Report Form -- Drop the raised platforms for the radio buttons. Keep this flat and frame them if the grouping needs to be held together. The position of the footer buttons is inconsistent with the other forms - All the above forms have the buttons to the left, here they are too the right. - Make Report (sort selections) Form Drop the etched frames and use flat frames instead. Definately use normal frames for the 3 sort fields - and get rid of the white background on the frame titles. Again - use frames rather than raised platforms for the option buttons as well. Consider keeping the footer buttons more consistent - these ones are spread out accross the whole form. - Make Report (Data selections) Form The "Clear All" button font colour should be the same as the other buttons. See above for the rest of form. Overall. Consider making a template footer form with all the buttons that you are going to use already on it. then you can just hide the ones that are not required. Each form should have the buttons in the same place. The navigation buttons shouldn't move around from form to form - ditto with the "Close form" (or goto here...) should be in the same place. Maybe consider the footer along the lines of tight to the left - all the nav buttons. Then to the right you can have a section with all the custom button for that form - they may have to move around due to the lenght of the text. I would tighten it up a lot on the menus. -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Rocky Smolin at Beach Access Software Sent: Tuesday, 22 July 2008 12:30 AM To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' Subject: [AccessD] Facelift for my App Dear List: This must be my day to ask for help. I want to give one of my apps a facelift - change the colors, fonts, controls - stuff like that - to look more moderne. So I guess I'm looking for some web sties that might have some screen shots of forms from which I could get some ideas. The current app forms can be seen at http://www.e-z-mrp.com/ss_mainmenu.htm. So you can see what I mean - functional but not beautiful. What colors do you all favor for backcolors and forcolors? Fonts? Any suggestions welcome. MTIA, Rocky Smolin Beach Access Software 858-259-4334 www.e-z-mrp.com www.bchacc.com -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com This email and any attachments may contain privileged and confidential information and are intended for the named addressee only. If you have received this e-mail in error, please notify the sender and delete this e-mail immediately. Any confidentiality, privilege or copyright is not waived or lost because this e-mail has been sent to you in error. It is your responsibility to check this e-mail and any attachments for viruses. No warranty is made that this material is free from computer virus or any other defect or error. Any loss/damage incurred by using this material is not the sender's responsibility. The sender's entire liability will be limited to resupplying the material. From kp at sdsonline.net Mon Jul 21 19:13:34 2008 From: kp at sdsonline.net (Kath Pelletti) Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 10:13:34 +1000 Subject: [AccessD] Stop Access Opening Exclusive References: <20080721025556.VTEG7045.mta05.xtra.co.nz@Dalyn.dalyn.co.nz><001e01c8eb13$b1373370$6401a8c0@DELLAPTOP> <20080721185020.XEEO22468.mta07.xtra.co.nz@Dalyn.dalyn.co.nz> Message-ID: <005801c8eb8f$c8e3c480$6401a8c0@DELLAPTOP> Strange? I looked at 2003 - it's there on mine. ----- Original Message ----- From: "David Emerson" To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving" Sent: Tuesday, July 22, 2008 4:50 AM Subject: Re: [AccessD] Stop Access Opening Exclusive >I have checked on their computer - This property doesn't appear in > the Tools, Options, Advanced tab (Access 2003) > > David > > At 21/07/2008, you wrote: >>David - >>Might be worth getting your client to check under Tools, Options, >>Advanced, >>then check whether the 'default open mode' is set to Shared or Exclusive? >> >>Kath >> >>----- Original Message ----- >>From: "David Emerson" >>To: >>Sent: Monday, July 21, 2008 12:56 PM >>Subject: [AccessD] Stop Access Opening Exclusive >> >> >> >I have a client that has a shortcut to a database that just has the >> > name of the database (without the full path of Access before >> > it). Windows explorer has the file type associated with Access (he >> > is running 2003). >> > >> > When the shortcut is clicked the file seems to open in exclusive mode >> > so that when another user opens the database it is read only (and a >> > message appears to tell them). Since it is an MDE it doesn't matter >> > as the data in the SQL backend can be changed anyway. But it is >> > annoying having the warning message pop up. How can I change the >> > shortcut/application so that it doesn't default to exclusive? >> > >> > Regards >> > >> > David Emerson >> > Dalyn Software Ltd >> > Wellington, New Zealand >> > >> > -- >> > AccessD mailing list >> > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com >> > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd >> > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com >> > >> >> >>-- >>AccessD mailing list >>AccessD at databaseadvisors.com >>http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd >>Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > -- > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > From rockysmolin at bchacc.com Mon Jul 21 19:40:35 2008 From: rockysmolin at bchacc.com (Rocky Smolin at Beach Access Software) Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2008 17:40:35 -0700 Subject: [AccessD] Facelift for my App In-Reply-To: <57E6E6CA42105A48B977303A2CDC2720076BF12D92@WPEXCH22.retail.ad.cmltd.net.au> References: <005001c8eb3e$3018f1e0$0301a8c0@HAL9005> <57E6E6CA42105A48B977303A2CDC2720076BF12D92@WPEXCH22.retail.ad.cmltd.net.au> Message-ID: <00a101c8eb93$8e835270$0301a8c0@HAL9005> Darryl: Great stuff! I've already started to implement many of your suggestions. Particularly positioning like objects from form to form like the header. I guess raised and sunken is really 90s now, huh? Who knew? So flat it is. But hyperlinking the menu buttons is a new one for me. How does that work to open a form? Thanks and regards, Rocky Smolin Beach Access Software 858-259-4334 www.e-z-mrp.com www.bchacc.com -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Darryl Collins Sent: Monday, July 21, 2008 4:56 PM To: 'Access Developers discussion and problemsolving' Subject: Re: [AccessD] Facelift for my App Hi Rocky, I read the replies before I got back to you so hopefully I don't repeat - I feel Dan has covered much of what need to be looked at already. I would consider taking an 'iPod' approach. Keep it very clean, simple with single or complementary colours. Consider getting rid of the buttons altogether and using hyperlinked text to do the job. Dan's point on the font is spot on - you need to use a more modern looking font. I would also remove the sunken boxes, raised boxes and etched frames. On the data entry fields I like to use colours to help the user. All free form data entry fields I use a dark blue font on a light green background. All combo boxes I use a dark maroon font on a light yellow background. All locked fields I use a dark grey font on a light grey background. This helps the user understand exactly what is required in each field from them - and what their options are. I would remove the green colour on the screen background. Just make the entire sceen one colour with a single bar top and bottom where the form header ends and the form footer starts. -- Main Menu -- Use frames with tiles for the three menu grouping - consider dropping the buttons altogether and using hyperlinked text to jump to the form you want. This look a lot cleaner and takes up much less space than using buttons. The header should be the same colour as the rest of the form. Consider making the entire screen white including the background. Make the backgound and boxes around the date and current database flat and plain - You could also make the font 70% grey or so. -- Part Master Maint Form -- I would put all the navigation buttons in a close group (touching) Consider making the "Add" "Delete" etc buttons all the same size. -- Bill of Material Form -- Header is a different colour - this is a total 'no-no'. Be consistent (it is white on the Part Master Maint. Form and gray here) Consider using frames rather than the raised boxes. -- Supply Side Maint Form -- I find the sub form nav buttons and the main form nav buttons confusing. I would frame the sub form and put the nav buttons within that frame. I would put all the navigation buttons in a close group (touching) -- Supply Side Report Form -- Drop the raised platforms for the radio buttons. Keep this flat and frame them if the grouping needs to be held together. The position of the footer buttons is inconsistent with the other forms - All the above forms have the buttons to the left, here they are too the right. - Make Report (sort selections) Form Drop the etched frames and use flat frames instead. Definately use normal frames for the 3 sort fields - and get rid of the white background on the frame titles. Again - use frames rather than raised platforms for the option buttons as well. Consider keeping the footer buttons more consistent - these ones are spread out accross the whole form. - Make Report (Data selections) Form The "Clear All" button font colour should be the same as the other buttons. See above for the rest of form. Overall. Consider making a template footer form with all the buttons that you are going to use already on it. then you can just hide the ones that are not required. Each form should have the buttons in the same place. The navigation buttons shouldn't move around from form to form - ditto with the "Close form" (or goto here...) should be in the same place. Maybe consider the footer along the lines of tight to the left - all the nav buttons. Then to the right you can have a section with all the custom button for that form - they may have to move around due to the lenght of the text. I would tighten it up a lot on the menus. -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Rocky Smolin at Beach Access Software Sent: Tuesday, 22 July 2008 12:30 AM To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' Subject: [AccessD] Facelift for my App Dear List: This must be my day to ask for help. I want to give one of my apps a facelift - change the colors, fonts, controls - stuff like that - to look more moderne. So I guess I'm looking for some web sties that might have some screen shots of forms from which I could get some ideas. The current app forms can be seen at http://www.e-z-mrp.com/ss_mainmenu.htm. So you can see what I mean - functional but not beautiful. What colors do you all favor for backcolors and forcolors? Fonts? Any suggestions welcome. MTIA, Rocky Smolin Beach Access Software 858-259-4334 www.e-z-mrp.com www.bchacc.com -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com This email and any attachments may contain privileged and confidential information and are intended for the named addressee only. If you have received this e-mail in error, please notify the sender and delete this e-mail immediately. Any confidentiality, privilege or copyright is not waived or lost because this e-mail has been sent to you in error. It is your responsibility to check this e-mail and any attachments for viruses. No warranty is made that this material is free from computer virus or any other defect or error. Any loss/damage incurred by using this material is not the sender's responsibility. The sender's entire liability will be limited to resupplying the material. -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From Darryl.Collins at coles.com.au Mon Jul 21 19:53:47 2008 From: Darryl.Collins at coles.com.au (Darryl Collins) Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 10:53:47 +1000 Subject: [AccessD] Facelift for my App In-Reply-To: <00a101c8eb93$8e835270$0301a8c0@HAL9005> Message-ID: <57E6E6CA42105A48B977303A2CDC2720076BF12D93@WPEXCH22.retail.ad.cmltd.net.au> Hi Rocky, Goto "Insert" > "Hyperlink" and then follow the instuctions (ie, choose which form you want to open). Access will then drop the hyperlink on the form for you. It will use the form name as the hyperlink, so you will want to change that from frm_MyForm to something useful "Main Menu" for example. let me know if you need a sample. cheers Darryl -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Rocky Smolin at Beach Access Software Sent: Tuesday, 22 July 2008 10:41 AM To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' Subject: Re: [AccessD] Facelift for my App Darryl: Great stuff! I've already started to implement many of your suggestions. Particularly positioning like objects from form to form like the header. I guess raised and sunken is really 90s now, huh? Who knew? So flat it is. But hyperlinking the menu buttons is a new one for me. How does that work to open a form? Thanks and regards, Rocky Smolin Beach Access Software 858-259-4334 www.e-z-mrp.com www.bchacc.com -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Darryl Collins Sent: Monday, July 21, 2008 4:56 PM To: 'Access Developers discussion and problemsolving' Subject: Re: [AccessD] Facelift for my App Hi Rocky, I read the replies before I got back to you so hopefully I don't repeat - I feel Dan has covered much of what need to be looked at already. I would consider taking an 'iPod' approach. Keep it very clean, simple with single or complementary colours. Consider getting rid of the buttons altogether and using hyperlinked text to do the job. Dan's point on the font is spot on - you need to use a more modern looking font. I would also remove the sunken boxes, raised boxes and etched frames. On the data entry fields I like to use colours to help the user. All free form data entry fields I use a dark blue font on a light green background. All combo boxes I use a dark maroon font on a light yellow background. All locked fields I use a dark grey font on a light grey background. This helps the user understand exactly what is required in each field from them - and what their options are. I would remove the green colour on the screen background. Just make the entire sceen one colour with a single bar top and bottom where the form header ends and the form footer starts. -- Main Menu -- Use frames with tiles for the three menu grouping - consider dropping the buttons altogether and using hyperlinked text to jump to the form you want. This look a lot cleaner and takes up much less space than using buttons. The header should be the same colour as the rest of the form. Consider making the entire screen white including the background. Make the backgound and boxes around the date and current database flat and plain - You could also make the font 70% grey or so. -- Part Master Maint Form -- I would put all the navigation buttons in a close group (touching) Consider making the "Add" "Delete" etc buttons all the same size. -- Bill of Material Form -- Header is a different colour - this is a total 'no-no'. Be consistent (it is white on the Part Master Maint. Form and gray here) Consider using frames rather than the raised boxes. -- Supply Side Maint Form -- I find the sub form nav buttons and the main form nav buttons confusing. I would frame the sub form and put the nav buttons within that frame. I would put all the navigation buttons in a close group (touching) -- Supply Side Report Form -- Drop the raised platforms for the radio buttons. Keep this flat and frame them if the grouping needs to be held together. The position of the footer buttons is inconsistent with the other forms - All the above forms have the buttons to the left, here they are too the right. - Make Report (sort selections) Form Drop the etched frames and use flat frames instead. Definately use normal frames for the 3 sort fields - and get rid of the white background on the frame titles. Again - use frames rather than raised platforms for the option buttons as well. Consider keeping the footer buttons more consistent - these ones are spread out accross the whole form. - Make Report (Data selections) Form The "Clear All" button font colour should be the same as the other buttons. See above for the rest of form. Overall. Consider making a template footer form with all the buttons that you are going to use already on it. then you can just hide the ones that are not required. Each form should have the buttons in the same place. The navigation buttons shouldn't move around from form to form - ditto with the "Close form" (or goto here...) should be in the same place. Maybe consider the footer along the lines of tight to the left - all the nav buttons. Then to the right you can have a section with all the custom button for that form - they may have to move around due to the lenght of the text. I would tighten it up a lot on the menus. -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Rocky Smolin at Beach Access Software Sent: Tuesday, 22 July 2008 12:30 AM To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' Subject: [AccessD] Facelift for my App Dear List: This must be my day to ask for help. I want to give one of my apps a facelift - change the colors, fonts, controls - stuff like that - to look more moderne. So I guess I'm looking for some web sties that might have some screen shots of forms from which I could get some ideas. The current app forms can be seen at http://www.e-z-mrp.com/ss_mainmenu.htm. So you can see what I mean - functional but not beautiful. What colors do you all favor for backcolors and forcolors? Fonts? Any suggestions welcome. MTIA, Rocky Smolin Beach Access Software 858-259-4334 www.e-z-mrp.com www.bchacc.com -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com This email and any attachments may contain privileged and confidential information and are intended for the named addressee only. If you have received this e-mail in error, please notify the sender and delete this e-mail immediately. Any confidentiality, privilege or copyright is not waived or lost because this e-mail has been sent to you in error. 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It is your responsibility to check this e-mail and any attachments for viruses. No warranty is made that this material is free from computer virus or any other defect or error. Any loss/damage incurred by using this material is not the sender's responsibility. The sender's entire liability will be limited to resupplying the material. From accessd at shaw.ca Mon Jul 21 20:49:45 2008 From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence) Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2008 18:49:45 -0700 Subject: [AccessD] Creating Outlook macros In-Reply-To: <00a501c8eb2f$c21e3910$2f8601c7@SusanOne> References: <000001c8eac2$0eae7b50$2101a8c0@AB> <000101c8eac9$43fc6680$2101a8c0@AB> <5F89B1AEAA694892ADE5DB8BF74BB20A@creativesystemdesigns.com> <00a501c8eb2f$c21e3910$2f8601c7@SusanOne> Message-ID: <6AF0217807D748DB99B6D51CFD9DA46B@creativesystemdesigns.com> Hi Susan: The client is looking for some one who can program a stand-alone Outlook program. He feels that can be done via macros. It may be true, it is just that I have not done so and have only programmed it, encapsulated within an app like Access and Excel. Unfortunately, right now I am so booked that I just do not have time to become fluent in yet another language version. (The truth be known is that for the last 4 weeks I have been working about 7 days a week for as much as 16 hours a day and my brian is nearly fried. ;-) ) Jim -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Susan Harkins Sent: Monday, July 21, 2008 5:46 AM To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving Subject: Re: [AccessD] Creating Outlook macros Jim, even if you don't have experience, you can find just about anything you need online. Unless they need something really involved, I can't imagine why you couldn't do this yourself. Susan H. > Hi All: > > A client has requested that I find someone who has experience at creating > macros (other than the very basics) behind Outlook. If someone has this > expertise please contact me off-line. -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From DWUTKA at Marlow.com Mon Jul 21 21:04:10 2008 From: DWUTKA at Marlow.com (Drew Wutka) Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2008 21:04:10 -0500 Subject: [AccessD] Creating Outlook macros In-Reply-To: <6AF0217807D748DB99B6D51CFD9DA46B@creativesystemdesigns.com> Message-ID: Jim, there isn't much in regards to the Outlook object. Other then the Outlook object, VBA in Outlook is the same as it is in Access or Excel. Also, it still wouldn't be a 'stand alone' program, because it would require Outlook. If he wants a stand alone program, it should be done in VB or C. Drew -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim Lawrence Sent: Monday, July 21, 2008 8:50 PM To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' Subject: Re: [AccessD] Creating Outlook macros Hi Susan: The client is looking for some one who can program a stand-alone Outlook program. He feels that can be done via macros. It may be true, it is just that I have not done so and have only programmed it, encapsulated within an app like Access and Excel. Unfortunately, right now I am so booked that I just do not have time to become fluent in yet another language version. (The truth be known is that for the last 4 weeks I have been working about 7 days a week for as much as 16 hours a day and my brian is nearly fried. ;-) ) Jim -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Susan Harkins Sent: Monday, July 21, 2008 5:46 AM To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving Subject: Re: [AccessD] Creating Outlook macros Jim, even if you don't have experience, you can find just about anything you need online. Unless they need something really involved, I can't imagine why you couldn't do this yourself. Susan H. > Hi All: > > A client has requested that I find someone who has experience at creating > macros (other than the very basics) behind Outlook. If someone has this > expertise please contact me off-line. -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com The information contained in this transmission is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain II-VI Proprietary and/or II-VI Business Sensitive material. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender immediately and destroy the material in its entirety, whether electronic or hard copy. You are notified that any review, retransmission, copying, disclosure, dissemination, or other use of, or taking of any action in reliance upon this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient is prohibited. From markamatte at hotmail.com Mon Jul 21 21:07:03 2008 From: markamatte at hotmail.com (Mark A Matte) Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 02:07:03 +0000 Subject: [AccessD] Open all forms In-Reply-To: <006501c8eb46$12e82160$0301a8c0@HAL9005> References: <004601c8eb3b$aa5898f0$0301a8c0@HAL9005> <006501c8eb46$12e82160$0301a8c0@HAL9005> Message-ID: Rocky, I think you already solved your issue...but in case not: This was for reports...but I'm sure you can modify for forms. Hope it helps... Mark A. Matte P.S...of course credit goes to ACCESSD!!!!!!!! ***************START********************* Dim obj As AccessObject, dbs As Object Dim rpt As Report Dim ctl As Control Set dbs = Application.CurrentProject ' Search for open AccessObject objects in AllReports collection. For Each obj In dbs.AllReports DoCmd.OpenReport obj.Name, acViewDesign Set rpt = Reports(obj.Name) str1 = "CurrentUser" str2 = "GetUser" On Error Resume Next For Each ctl In rpt.Controls If ctl.ControlType = acTextBox Then If InStr(1, ctl.ControlSource, str1) Then ctl.ControlSource = Replace(ctl.ControlSource, str1, str2) End If End If Next DoCmd.Close acReport, obj.Name, acSaveYes Set rpt = Nothing Set ctl = Nothing Next obj ***************END********************* > From: rockysmolin at bchacc.com > To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com > Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2008 08:25:57 -0700 > Subject: Re: [AccessD] Open all forms > > Thanks Mark. That's what I need - loop through all the forms, then also > loop through all the controls - I can change the Times font to Arial or > Tahoma and change the forecolor as well. > > > Rocky Smolin > Beach Access Software > 858-259-4334 > www.e-z-mrp.com > www.bchacc.com > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Mark A Matte > Sent: Monday, July 21, 2008 8:16 AM > To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving > Subject: Re: [AccessD] Open all forms > > > Rocky, > > I did something similar a few months ago. I searched every form for a text > box that had a ControlSource LIKE "*MySearch*" and Updated the ControlSource > to "SomethingNew". > > I think this is what you need. I Have it at home and can send it this > evening (about 3:00 your time) > > Thanks, > > Mark A. Matte > > > > >> From: rockysmolin at bchacc.com >> To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com >> Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2008 07:11:26 -0700 >> Subject: [AccessD] Open all forms >> >> Dear List: >> >> I am trying to write a quick module that will open all the forms in >> turn in design view, change one property (in this case the background >> color of the detail section), save and close. But I can't seem to get >> the syntax right to open each of the forms in turn. >> >> Does anyone have a snip to do this? >> >> MTIA >> >> Rocky Smolin >> >> Beach Access Software >> >> 858-259-4334 >> >> www.e-z-mrp.com >> >> www.bchacc.com >> >> >> >> >> >> >> -- >> AccessD mailing list >> AccessD at databaseadvisors.com >> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd >> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > _________________________________________________________________ > With Windows Live for mobile, your contacts travel with you. > http://www.windowslive.com/mobile/overview.html?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_mobile_072 > 008 > -- > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > -- > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com _________________________________________________________________ With Windows Live for mobile, your contacts travel with you. http://www.windowslive.com/mobile/overview.html?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_mobile_072008 From ssharkins at gmail.com Mon Jul 21 21:08:39 2008 From: ssharkins at gmail.com (Susan Harkins) Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2008 22:08:39 -0400 Subject: [AccessD] Creating Outlook macros References: <000001c8eac2$0eae7b50$2101a8c0@AB><000101c8eac9$43fc6680$2101a8c0@AB><5F89B1AEAA694892ADE5DB8BF74BB20A@creativesystemdesigns.com><00a501c8eb2f$c21e3910$2f8601c7@SusanOne> <6AF0217807D748DB99B6D51CFD9DA46B@creativesystemdesigns.com> Message-ID: <052201c8eb9f$e61bad00$2f8601c7@SusanOne> > The client is looking for some one who can program a stand-alone Outlook > program. =======What does that mean? I don't think there is such a thing for Outlook. Susan H. From dwaters at usinternet.com Mon Jul 21 21:48:47 2008 From: dwaters at usinternet.com (Dan Waters) Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2008 21:48:47 -0500 Subject: [AccessD] Package Wizard and Access Runtime In-Reply-To: <4885087D.4040207@mvps.org> References: <4885087D.4040207@mvps.org> Message-ID: <66C292CE67574D0B9DD110DA721FAD29@danwaters> Hi Steve, Do you know of something similar for Access 2003? I do have the full version and Access 2003 Developer Extensions disk. I think that for Access 2003 deploying the runtime may not be this easy. Dan -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Steve Schapel Sent: Monday, July 21, 2008 5:07 PM To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving Subject: Re: [AccessD] Package Wizard and Access Runtime Dan, You don't need an installer, under those circumstances. The advantages of using something like Sagekey scripts etc are: - avoid conflicts with pre-existing installations of earlier versions of Access - automatically create trusted location for your application - take care of registering add-ons or special fonts or whatnot In the case of an install just for one client, all of these are easily managed manually. Just. 1. Install the Access runtime on the client's machines, directly from http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyId=D9AE78D9-9DC6-4B38- 9FA6-2C745A175AED&displaylang=en 2. Edit the Registry to make the trusted location. (I got a script somewhere to do this.) 3. Install any DLLs etc. 4. Put an applicable shortcut on the desktop. 5. Have a coffee. Regards Steve Dan Waters wrote: > I'm testing an installation package with a bare-bones Access file, primarily > just to test the installation of an Access runtime. The installation went > well, but when I try to uninstall the runtime, it really won't install. > > I removed full office 2003 from my test PC first. I do have admin rights on > the test PC. > > I've heard that using other installer applications do a better job - but I'm > installing the runtime at just one client site. Anyone know what I could > expect to pay for Sagekey? Or other installers? > > Thanks! > Dan -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From accessd at shaw.ca Mon Jul 21 22:17:00 2008 From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence) Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2008 20:17:00 -0700 Subject: [AccessD] Creating Outlook macros In-Reply-To: <052201c8eb9f$e61bad00$2f8601c7@SusanOne> References: <000001c8eac2$0eae7b50$2101a8c0@AB> <000101c8eac9$43fc6680$2101a8c0@AB> <5F89B1AEAA694892ADE5DB8BF74BB20A@creativesystemdesigns.com> <00a501c8eb2f$c21e3910$2f8601c7@SusanOne> <6AF0217807D748DB99B6D51CFD9DA46B@creativesystemdesigns.com> <052201c8eb9f$e61bad00$2f8601c7@SusanOne> Message-ID: <43227717981F4A04A2F45A5E819E183C@creativesystemdesigns.com> Hi Susan: I have told the client as much but he is getting insistent so the old motto of the client is always right takes precedent here and if some one can make some money on proving him right or wrong so be it. Jim -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Susan Harkins Sent: Monday, July 21, 2008 7:09 PM To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving Subject: Re: [AccessD] Creating Outlook macros > The client is looking for some one who can program a stand-alone Outlook > program. =======What does that mean? I don't think there is such a thing for Outlook. Susan H. -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From accessd at shaw.ca Mon Jul 21 22:17:56 2008 From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence) Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2008 20:17:56 -0700 Subject: [AccessD] Creating Outlook macros In-Reply-To: References: <6AF0217807D748DB99B6D51CFD9DA46B@creativesystemdesigns.com> Message-ID: <8E77017A4EA14A9784239FDEA43CF98A@creativesystemdesigns.com> Agreed, Drew. Jim -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Drew Wutka Sent: Monday, July 21, 2008 7:04 PM To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving Subject: Re: [AccessD] Creating Outlook macros Jim, there isn't much in regards to the Outlook object. Other then the Outlook object, VBA in Outlook is the same as it is in Access or Excel. Also, it still wouldn't be a 'stand alone' program, because it would require Outlook. If he wants a stand alone program, it should be done in VB or C. Drew -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim Lawrence Sent: Monday, July 21, 2008 8:50 PM To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' Subject: Re: [AccessD] Creating Outlook macros Hi Susan: The client is looking for some one who can program a stand-alone Outlook program. He feels that can be done via macros. It may be true, it is just that I have not done so and have only programmed it, encapsulated within an app like Access and Excel. Unfortunately, right now I am so booked that I just do not have time to become fluent in yet another language version. (The truth be known is that for the last 4 weeks I have been working about 7 days a week for as much as 16 hours a day and my brian is nearly fried. ;-) ) Jim -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Susan Harkins Sent: Monday, July 21, 2008 5:46 AM To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving Subject: Re: [AccessD] Creating Outlook macros Jim, even if you don't have experience, you can find just about anything you need online. Unless they need something really involved, I can't imagine why you couldn't do this yourself. Susan H. > Hi All: > > A client has requested that I find someone who has experience at creating > macros (other than the very basics) behind Outlook. If someone has this > expertise please contact me off-line. -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com The information contained in this transmission is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain II-VI Proprietary and/or II-VI Business Sensitive material. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender immediately and destroy the material in its entirety, whether electronic or hard copy. You are notified that any review, retransmission, copying, disclosure, dissemination, or other use of, or taking of any action in reliance upon this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient is prohibited. -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From miscellany at mvps.org Mon Jul 21 22:12:07 2008 From: miscellany at mvps.org (Steve Schapel) Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 15:12:07 +1200 Subject: [AccessD] Package Wizard and Access Runtime In-Reply-To: <66C292CE67574D0B9DD110DA721FAD29@danwaters> References: <4885087D.4040207@mvps.org> <66C292CE67574D0B9DD110DA721FAD29@danwaters> Message-ID: <48855007.2020607@mvps.org> Dan, No, deploying Access 2003 Runtime is not that easy! My humble apologies, I think I misunderstood you - I somehow made an assumption you were talking about Access 2007 Runtime. Sorry, I use SageKey for Access 2003 installations. I can certainly understand not wanting to buy it just for 1 site! I don't think it would be in breach of any licensing terms for you to sub-contract the preparation of a SageKey install to someone (no, I'm not offering personally :-) ) who has the wherewithal. An alternative is to have a look at Inno installer, which I think is free. I have no experience with it, but my friend Albert Kallal swears by them for Access Runtime installations. Do a Google search on "Albert Kallal Inno" and you'll find some of his comments. Somewhere he has posted some sample scripts, but I just can't put my finger on at the moment - maybe you will find them. Regards Steve Dan Waters wrote: > Do you know of something similar for Access 2003? > > I do have the full version and Access 2003 Developer Extensions disk. I > think that for Access 2003 deploying the runtime may not be this easy. > From newsgrps at dalyn.co.nz Mon Jul 21 22:33:43 2008 From: newsgrps at dalyn.co.nz (David Emerson) Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 15:33:43 +1200 Subject: [AccessD] Fwd: Re: Stop Access Opening Exclusive Message-ID: <20080722033252.IXSC22468.mta07.xtra.co.nz@Dalyn.dalyn.co.nz> To bring this back to the group. I have compared Kath's Advanced tab with mine and noticed a number of options were missing. Then the penny dropped. The problem is that my database is an adp. When I create a mdb I can see all the options. Hopefully the locking problem was to do with the folder and not the database. Thanks for everyones help. David >From: "Kath Pelletti" >To: "David Emerson" >Subject: Re: [AccessD] Stop Access Opening Exclusive > >Sent offline >----- Original Message ----- From: "David Emerson" >To: >Sent: Tuesday, July 22, 2008 12:11 PM >Subject: Re: [AccessD] Stop Access Opening Exclusive > > >>Kath, >> >>Can you please send me a screenshot showing your Advanced Tab. I >>am wondering if it is to do with the type of installation of Access. >> >>Regards >> >>David >> >>At 22/07/2008, you wrote: >>>Strange? I looked at 2003 - it's there on mine. >>> >>> >>>----- Original Message ----- >>>From: "David Emerson" >>>To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving" >>> >>>Sent: Tuesday, July 22, 2008 4:50 AM >>>Subject: Re: [AccessD] Stop Access Opening Exclusive >>> >>> >>> >I have checked on their computer - This property doesn't appear in >>> > the Tools, Options, Advanced tab (Access 2003) >>> > >>> > David >>> > >>> > At 21/07/2008, you wrote: >>> >>David - >>> >>Might be worth getting your client to check under Tools, Options, >>> >>Advanced, >>> >>then check whether the 'default open mode' is set to Shared >>> or >>Exclusive? >>> >> >>> >>Kath >>> >> >>> >>----- Original Message ----- >>> >>From: "David Emerson" >>> >>To: >>> >>Sent: Monday, July 21, 2008 12:56 PM >>> >>Subject: [AccessD] Stop Access Opening Exclusive >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >I have a client that has a shortcut to a database that just has the >>> >> > name of the database (without the full path of Access before >>> >> > it). Windows explorer has the file type associated with Access (he >>> >> > is running 2003). >>> >> > >>> >> > When the shortcut is clicked the file seems to open in >>> exclusive >> > mode >>> >> > so that when another user opens the database it is read only (and a >>> >> > message appears to tell them). Since it is an MDE it doesn't matter >>> >> > as the data in the SQL backend can be changed anyway. But it is >>> >> > annoying having the warning message pop up. How can I change the >>> >> > shortcut/application so that it doesn't default to exclusive? >>> >> > >>> >> > Regards >>> >> > >>> >> > David Emerson >>> >> > Dalyn Software Ltd >>> >> > Wellington, New Zealand From rockysmolin at bchacc.com Mon Jul 21 23:11:00 2008 From: rockysmolin at bchacc.com (Rocky Smolin at Beach Access Software) Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2008 21:11:00 -0700 Subject: [AccessD] Open all forms In-Reply-To: References: <004601c8eb3b$aa5898f0$0301a8c0@HAL9005> <006501c8eb46$12e82160$0301a8c0@HAL9005> Message-ID: <00bd01c8ebb0$f36e6950$0301a8c0@HAL9005> Yeah. That's pretty much was I was shown. I was going to post the module but yours is really it. I did set several properties of the controls. The help is actually real good in showing what the values are for things like Special Effect: For Each ctl In Forms(Doc.Name) Select Case ctl.ControlType Case 109 'text box ctl.FontName = "Tahoma" ctl.ForeColor = 8388608 ctl.FontWeight = 400 'normal Case 100 'label ctl.FontName = "Tahoma" ctl.ForeColor = 8388608 ctl.FontWeight = 400 'normal Case 104 ' command button ctl.FontName = "Tahoma" ctl.ForeColor = 8388608 ctl.FontWeight = 400 'normal Case 101 ' box ctl.BackColor = 16765875 ctl.BorderColor = 8388608 Case 102 ' line ctl.BorderColor = 8388608 Case 107 'option frame ctl.BorderStyle = 1 ctl.BorderColor = 8388608 ctl.SpecialEffect = 0 Case 111 ' combo box ctl.FontName = "Tahoma" ctl.ForeColor = 8388608 ctl.FontWeight = 400 'normal End Select Next ctl Rocky Smolin Beach Access Software 858-259-4334 www.e-z-mrp.com www.bchacc.com -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Mark A Matte Sent: Monday, July 21, 2008 7:07 PM To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving Subject: Re: [AccessD] Open all forms Rocky, I think you already solved your issue...but in case not: This was for reports...but I'm sure you can modify for forms. Hope it helps... Mark A. Matte P.S...of course credit goes to ACCESSD!!!!!!!! ***************START********************* Dim obj As AccessObject, dbs As Object Dim rpt As Report Dim ctl As Control Set dbs = Application.CurrentProject ' Search for open AccessObject objects in AllReports collection. For Each obj In dbs.AllReports DoCmd.OpenReport obj.Name, acViewDesign Set rpt = Reports(obj.Name) str1 = "CurrentUser" str2 = "GetUser" On Error Resume Next For Each ctl In rpt.Controls If ctl.ControlType = acTextBox Then If InStr(1, ctl.ControlSource, str1) Then ctl.ControlSource = Replace(ctl.ControlSource, str1, str2) End If End If Next DoCmd.Close acReport, obj.Name, acSaveYes Set rpt = Nothing Set ctl = Nothing Next obj ***************END********************* > From: rockysmolin at bchacc.com > To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com > Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2008 08:25:57 -0700 > Subject: Re: [AccessD] Open all forms > > Thanks Mark. That's what I need - loop through all the forms, then > also loop through all the controls - I can change the Times font to > Arial or Tahoma and change the forecolor as well. > > > Rocky Smolin > Beach Access Software > 858-259-4334 > www.e-z-mrp.com > www.bchacc.com > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Mark A > Matte > Sent: Monday, July 21, 2008 8:16 AM > To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving > Subject: Re: [AccessD] Open all forms > > > Rocky, > > I did something similar a few months ago. I searched every form for a > text box that had a ControlSource LIKE "*MySearch*" and Updated the > ControlSource to "SomethingNew". > > I think this is what you need. I Have it at home and can send it this > evening (about 3:00 your time) > > Thanks, > > Mark A. Matte > > > > >> From: rockysmolin at bchacc.com >> To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com >> Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2008 07:11:26 -0700 >> Subject: [AccessD] Open all forms >> >> Dear List: >> >> I am trying to write a quick module that will open all the forms in >> turn in design view, change one property (in this case the background >> color of the detail section), save and close. But I can't seem to get >> the syntax right to open each of the forms in turn. >> >> Does anyone have a snip to do this? >> >> MTIA >> >> Rocky Smolin >> >> Beach Access Software >> >> 858-259-4334 >> >> www.e-z-mrp.com >> >> www.bchacc.com >> >> >> >> >> >> >> -- >> AccessD mailing list >> AccessD at databaseadvisors.com >> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd >> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > _________________________________________________________________ > With Windows Live for mobile, your contacts travel with you. > http://www.windowslive.com/mobile/overview.html?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_mobi > le_072 > 008 > -- > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > -- > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com _________________________________________________________________ With Windows Live for mobile, your contacts travel with you. http://www.windowslive.com/mobile/overview.html?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_mobile_072 008 -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From rbgajewski at roadrunner.com Mon Jul 21 23:10:59 2008 From: rbgajewski at roadrunner.com (Bob Gajewski) Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 00:10:59 -0400 Subject: [AccessD] Open all forms In-Reply-To: <008d01c8eb5a$6a92d1d0$0301a8c0@HAL9005> References: <3EFB6A27F62E400A8B7E4570528C854A@minster33c3r25> <008d01c8eb5a$6a92d1d0$0301a8c0@HAL9005> Message-ID: Rocky In my Utility Functions module, I have two functions defined: Function cbfGotFocus() Me.ActiveControl.BackColor = 8454143 End Function Function cbfLostFocus() Me.ActiveControl.BackColor = vbWhite End Function Then, in each control, I have the Got Focus event = "=cbfGotFocus()" and the Lost Focus event = "=cbfLostFocus()". You should be able to set these variables too during your control looping. This is a rather bright yellow; you'll probably want to a softer color. Regards, Bob Gajewski ** Please consider the environment before printing this e-mail ** -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Rocky Smolin at Beach Access Software Sent: Monday, July 21, 2008 13:52 PM To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' Subject: Re: [AccessD] Open all forms Andy: Worked perfectly. Now I'm going to cycle through al the controls and change the font name. Which I think I can do. But I'd like to add conditional formatting to each text box so that it shows pale yellow background when it has the focus. Apparently you can only do this manually one control at a time - won't do multiple selections. So that could be tedious. Any ideas how to do that while I've got the form open in design mode? Rocky Smolin Beach Access Software 858-259-4334 www.e-z-mrp.com www.bchacc.com -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Andy Lacey Sent: Monday, July 21, 2008 10:30 AM To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' Subject: Re: [AccessD] Open all forms Hi Rocky This might do what you're after Dim dbs As Database Dim Ctr As Container Dim Doc As Document Set dbs = CurrentDb Set Ctr = dbs.Containers!Forms ' Enumerate through Documents collection of Forms container. For Each Doc In Ctr.Documents DoCmd.OpenForm Doc.Name, acDesign Forms(0).CloseButton = False DoCmd.Close acForm, Doc.Name Next Doc Then set stuff to Nothing at the end. -- Andy Lacey http://www.minstersystems.co.uk >-----Original Message----- >From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com >[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gustav Brock >Sent: 21 July 2008 17:29 >To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com >Subject: Re: [AccessD] Open all forms > > >Hi Rocky > >Not Segoe but Trebucket is on most newer machines. >If you wish to have zero trouble with fonts use MS Sans Serif, the old >bitmapped font. Actually it is very good (and digits are mono spaced) >and has been with Windows since Windows 1.0. > >/gustav > >>>> rockysmolin at bchacc.com 21-07-2008 18:15 >>> >Are Segoe and Trebucket going to be standard with older Windows? > > >Rocky Smolin >Beach Access Software >858-259-4334 >www.e-z-mrp.com >www.bchacc.com > > > >-----Original Message----- >From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com >[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gustav Brock >Sent: Monday, July 21, 2008 9:10 AM >To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com >Subject: Re: [AccessD] Open all forms > >Hi Rocky > >In my experience, Arial is a bad choice for a screen font. >Indeed digits don't come out nice. Verdana and Tahoma or the new Segoe >are much to prefer >- or Trebucket (one of my favorites) if you can get away with it! > >/gustav > >>>> rockysmolin at bchacc.com 21-07-2008 17:25 >>> > >.. I can change the Times font to Arial or Tahoma .. > > > >-- >AccessD mailing list >AccessD at databaseadvisors.com >http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd >Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From rockysmolin at bchacc.com Mon Jul 21 23:26:31 2008 From: rockysmolin at bchacc.com (Rocky Smolin at Beach Access Software) Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2008 21:26:31 -0700 Subject: [AccessD] Open all forms In-Reply-To: References: <3EFB6A27F62E400A8B7E4570528C854A@minster33c3r25><008d01c8eb5a$6a92d1d0$0301a8c0@HAL9005> Message-ID: <00c401c8ebb3$1e5501e0$0301a8c0@HAL9005> Bob: I'm using conditional formatting and what I found out was that you CAN do multiple controls but they all have to be of the same type. If you select both text boxes and combo boxes for example, you get an obscure error. The pale yellow from the conditional formatting is OK. But your solution would be more flexible. The conditional formatting colors are a bit limited. Rocky Smolin Beach Access Software 858-259-4334 www.e-z-mrp.com www.bchacc.com -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Bob Gajewski Sent: Monday, July 21, 2008 9:11 PM To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' Subject: Re: [AccessD] Open all forms Rocky In my Utility Functions module, I have two functions defined: Function cbfGotFocus() Me.ActiveControl.BackColor = 8454143 End Function Function cbfLostFocus() Me.ActiveControl.BackColor = vbWhite End Function Then, in each control, I have the Got Focus event = "=cbfGotFocus()" and the Lost Focus event = "=cbfLostFocus()". You should be able to set these variables too during your control looping. This is a rather bright yellow; you'll probably want to a softer color. Regards, Bob Gajewski ** Please consider the environment before printing this e-mail ** -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Rocky Smolin at Beach Access Software Sent: Monday, July 21, 2008 13:52 PM To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' Subject: Re: [AccessD] Open all forms Andy: Worked perfectly. Now I'm going to cycle through al the controls and change the font name. Which I think I can do. But I'd like to add conditional formatting to each text box so that it shows pale yellow background when it has the focus. Apparently you can only do this manually one control at a time - won't do multiple selections. So that could be tedious. Any ideas how to do that while I've got the form open in design mode? Rocky Smolin Beach Access Software 858-259-4334 www.e-z-mrp.com www.bchacc.com -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Andy Lacey Sent: Monday, July 21, 2008 10:30 AM To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' Subject: Re: [AccessD] Open all forms Hi Rocky This might do what you're after Dim dbs As Database Dim Ctr As Container Dim Doc As Document Set dbs = CurrentDb Set Ctr = dbs.Containers!Forms ' Enumerate through Documents collection of Forms container. For Each Doc In Ctr.Documents DoCmd.OpenForm Doc.Name, acDesign Forms(0).CloseButton = False DoCmd.Close acForm, Doc.Name Next Doc Then set stuff to Nothing at the end. -- Andy Lacey http://www.minstersystems.co.uk >-----Original Message----- >From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com >[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gustav Brock >Sent: 21 July 2008 17:29 >To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com >Subject: Re: [AccessD] Open all forms > > >Hi Rocky > >Not Segoe but Trebucket is on most newer machines. >If you wish to have zero trouble with fonts use MS Sans Serif, the old >bitmapped font. Actually it is very good (and digits are mono spaced) >and has been with Windows since Windows 1.0. > >/gustav > >>>> rockysmolin at bchacc.com 21-07-2008 18:15 >>> >Are Segoe and Trebucket going to be standard with older Windows? > > >Rocky Smolin >Beach Access Software >858-259-4334 >www.e-z-mrp.com >www.bchacc.com > > > >-----Original Message----- >From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com >[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gustav Brock >Sent: Monday, July 21, 2008 9:10 AM >To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com >Subject: Re: [AccessD] Open all forms > >Hi Rocky > >In my experience, Arial is a bad choice for a screen font. >Indeed digits don't come out nice. Verdana and Tahoma or the new Segoe >are much to prefer >- or Trebucket (one of my favorites) if you can get away with it! > >/gustav > >>>> rockysmolin at bchacc.com 21-07-2008 17:25 >>> > >.. I can change the Times font to Arial or Tahoma .. > > > >-- >AccessD mailing list >AccessD at databaseadvisors.com >http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd >Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From fuller.artful at gmail.com Tue Jul 22 05:29:43 2008 From: fuller.artful at gmail.com (Arthur Fuller) Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 07:29:43 -0300 Subject: [AccessD] Creating Outlook macros In-Reply-To: <43227717981F4A04A2F45A5E819E183C@creativesystemdesigns.com> References: <000001c8eac2$0eae7b50$2101a8c0@AB> <000101c8eac9$43fc6680$2101a8c0@AB> <5F89B1AEAA694892ADE5DB8BF74BB20A@creativesystemdesigns.com> <00a501c8eb2f$c21e3910$2f8601c7@SusanOne> <6AF0217807D748DB99B6D51CFD9DA46B@creativesystemdesigns.com> <052201c8eb9f$e61bad00$2f8601c7@SusanOne> <43227717981F4A04A2F45A5E819E183C@creativesystemdesigns.com> Message-ID: <29f585dd0807220329g253795a1paf94a5149a88a858@mail.gmail.com> I would be quite happy to bill your client $5k to tell him that s/he is wrong. :) A. On Tue, Jul 22, 2008 at 12:17 AM, Jim Lawrence wrote: > Hi Susan: > > I have told the client as much but he is getting insistent so the old motto > of the client is always right takes precedent here and if some one can make > some money on proving him right or wrong so be it. > > Jim > From Chester_Kaup at kindermorgan.com Tue Jul 22 09:04:28 2008 From: Chester_Kaup at kindermorgan.com (Kaup, Chester) Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 09:04:28 -0500 Subject: [AccessD] Report Formating Problem Message-ID: <0B2BF8524B73A248A2F1B81BA751ED3C05845894@houex1.kindermorgan.com> I have the following code in the on format event of the detail section of a report. It is setting the forecolor for all dates to red. I have walked through the code and it is skipping the records that do not meet the criteria. I have no conditional formatting set. The default foreground color is set to black. I have also tried the condition with NOW instead of DATE but no difference. What am I doing wrong here? Private Sub Detail_Format(Cancel As Integer, FormatCount As Integer) 'Stop If Last_IT_Date < Date - 10 Then Last_IT_Date.ForeColor = vbRed End If End Sub Chester Kaup Engineering Technician Kinder Morgan CO2 Company, LLP Office (432) 688-3797 FAX (432) 688-3799 No trees were killed in the sending of this message. However a large number of electrons were terribly inconvenienced. From markamatte at hotmail.com Tue Jul 22 09:18:23 2008 From: markamatte at hotmail.com (Mark A Matte) Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 14:18:23 +0000 Subject: [AccessD] Report Formating Problem In-Reply-To: <0B2BF8524B73A248A2F1B81BA751ED3C05845894@houex1.kindermorgan.com> References: <0B2BF8524B73A248A2F1B81BA751ED3C05845894@houex1.kindermorgan.com> Message-ID: Chester, You need to add an 'ELSE' telling it to 'switch' back to black. if somthing=true then RED else BLACK End if I do the same thing except in the Detail_Print. Hope it helps, Mark A. Matte > From: Chester_Kaup at kindermorgan.com > To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com > Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 09:04:28 -0500 > Subject: [AccessD] Report Formating Problem > > I have the following code in the on format event of the detail section of a report. It is setting the forecolor for all dates to red. I have walked through the code and it is skipping the records that do not meet the criteria. I have no conditional formatting set. The default foreground color is set to black. I have also tried the condition with NOW instead of DATE but no difference. What am I doing wrong here? > > Private Sub Detail_Format(Cancel As Integer, FormatCount As Integer) > 'Stop > If Last_IT_Date < Date - 10 Then > Last_IT_Date.ForeColor = vbRed > End If > End Sub > > > Chester Kaup > > Engineering Technician > > Kinder Morgan CO2 Company, LLP > > Office (432) 688-3797 > > FAX (432) 688-3799 > > > > > > No trees were killed in the sending of this message. However a large number of electrons were terribly inconvenienced. > > -- > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com _________________________________________________________________ Keep your kids safer online with Windows Live Family Safety. http://www.windowslive.com/family_safety/overview.html?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_family_safety_072008 From Chester_Kaup at kindermorgan.com Tue Jul 22 09:28:57 2008 From: Chester_Kaup at kindermorgan.com (Kaup, Chester) Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 09:28:57 -0500 Subject: [AccessD] Report Formating Problem In-Reply-To: References: <0B2BF8524B73A248A2F1B81BA751ED3C05845894@houex1.kindermorgan.com> Message-ID: <0B2BF8524B73A248A2F1B81BA751ED3C058458A9@houex1.kindermorgan.com> Thanks. That got it. -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Mark A Matte Sent: Tuesday, July 22, 2008 9:18 AM To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving Subject: Re: [AccessD] Report Formating Problem Chester, You need to add an 'ELSE' telling it to 'switch' back to black. if somthing=true then RED else BLACK End if I do the same thing except in the Detail_Print. Hope it helps, Mark A. Matte > From: Chester_Kaup at kindermorgan.com > To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com > Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 09:04:28 -0500 > Subject: [AccessD] Report Formating Problem > > I have the following code in the on format event of the detail section of a report. It is setting the forecolor for all dates to red. I have walked through the code and it is skipping the records that do not meet the criteria. I have no conditional formatting set. The default foreground color is set to black. I have also tried the condition with NOW instead of DATE but no difference. What am I doing wrong here? > > Private Sub Detail_Format(Cancel As Integer, FormatCount As Integer) > 'Stop > If Last_IT_Date < Date - 10 Then > Last_IT_Date.ForeColor = vbRed > End If > End Sub > > > Chester Kaup > > Engineering Technician > > Kinder Morgan CO2 Company, LLP > > Office (432) 688-3797 > > FAX (432) 688-3799 > > > > > > No trees were killed in the sending of this message. However a large number of electrons were terribly inconvenienced. > > -- > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com _________________________________________________________________ Keep your kids safer online with Windows Live Family Safety. http://www.windowslive.com/family_safety/overview.html?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_family_safety_072008 -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From rockysmolin at bchacc.com Tue Jul 22 09:39:47 2008 From: rockysmolin at bchacc.com (Rocky Smolin at Beach Access Software) Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 07:39:47 -0700 Subject: [AccessD] Report Formating Problem In-Reply-To: <0B2BF8524B73A248A2F1B81BA751ED3C058458A9@houex1.kindermorgan.com> References: <0B2BF8524B73A248A2F1B81BA751ED3C05845894@houex1.kindermorgan.com> <0B2BF8524B73A248A2F1B81BA751ED3C058458A9@houex1.kindermorgan.com> Message-ID: <00f601c8ec08$cafcfc90$0301a8c0@HAL9005> Chester: Also, does Date-10 work or do you need to use DateDiff? Rocky Smolin Beach Access Software 858-259-4334 www.e-z-mrp.com www.bchacc.com -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Kaup, Chester Sent: Tuesday, July 22, 2008 7:29 AM To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving Subject: Re: [AccessD] Report Formating Problem Thanks. That got it. -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Mark A Matte Sent: Tuesday, July 22, 2008 9:18 AM To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving Subject: Re: [AccessD] Report Formating Problem Chester, You need to add an 'ELSE' telling it to 'switch' back to black. if somthing=true then RED else BLACK End if I do the same thing except in the Detail_Print. Hope it helps, Mark A. Matte > From: Chester_Kaup at kindermorgan.com > To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com > Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 09:04:28 -0500 > Subject: [AccessD] Report Formating Problem > > I have the following code in the on format event of the detail section of a report. It is setting the forecolor for all dates to red. I have walked through the code and it is skipping the records that do not meet the criteria. I have no conditional formatting set. The default foreground color is set to black. I have also tried the condition with NOW instead of DATE but no difference. What am I doing wrong here? > > Private Sub Detail_Format(Cancel As Integer, FormatCount As Integer) > 'Stop If Last_IT_Date < Date - 10 Then Last_IT_Date.ForeColor = vbRed > End If End Sub > > > Chester Kaup > > Engineering Technician > > Kinder Morgan CO2 Company, LLP > > Office (432) 688-3797 > > FAX (432) 688-3799 > > > > > > No trees were killed in the sending of this message. However a large number of electrons were terribly inconvenienced. > > -- > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com _________________________________________________________________ Keep your kids safer online with Windows Live Family Safety. http://www.windowslive.com/family_safety/overview.html?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_fam ily_safety_072008 -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From Chester_Kaup at kindermorgan.com Tue Jul 22 09:45:41 2008 From: Chester_Kaup at kindermorgan.com (Kaup, Chester) Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 09:45:41 -0500 Subject: [AccessD] Report Formating Problem In-Reply-To: <00f601c8ec08$cafcfc90$0301a8c0@HAL9005> References: <0B2BF8524B73A248A2F1B81BA751ED3C05845894@houex1.kindermorgan.com> <0B2BF8524B73A248A2F1B81BA751ED3C058458A9@houex1.kindermorgan.com> <00f601c8ec08$cafcfc90$0301a8c0@HAL9005> Message-ID: <0B2BF8524B73A248A2F1B81BA751ED3C058458B9@houex1.kindermorgan.com> Date-10 seems to be working fine. -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Rocky Smolin at Beach Access Software Sent: Tuesday, July 22, 2008 9:40 AM To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' Subject: Re: [AccessD] Report Formating Problem Chester: Also, does Date-10 work or do you need to use DateDiff? Rocky Smolin Beach Access Software 858-259-4334 www.e-z-mrp.com www.bchacc.com -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Kaup, Chester Sent: Tuesday, July 22, 2008 7:29 AM To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving Subject: Re: [AccessD] Report Formating Problem Thanks. That got it. -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Mark A Matte Sent: Tuesday, July 22, 2008 9:18 AM To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving Subject: Re: [AccessD] Report Formating Problem Chester, You need to add an 'ELSE' telling it to 'switch' back to black. if somthing=true then RED else BLACK End if I do the same thing except in the Detail_Print. Hope it helps, Mark A. Matte > From: Chester_Kaup at kindermorgan.com > To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com > Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 09:04:28 -0500 > Subject: [AccessD] Report Formating Problem > > I have the following code in the on format event of the detail section of a report. It is setting the forecolor for all dates to red. I have walked through the code and it is skipping the records that do not meet the criteria. I have no conditional formatting set. The default foreground color is set to black. I have also tried the condition with NOW instead of DATE but no difference. What am I doing wrong here? > > Private Sub Detail_Format(Cancel As Integer, FormatCount As Integer) > 'Stop If Last_IT_Date < Date - 10 Then Last_IT_Date.ForeColor = vbRed > End If End Sub > > > Chester Kaup > > Engineering Technician > > Kinder Morgan CO2 Company, LLP > > Office (432) 688-3797 > > FAX (432) 688-3799 > > > > > > No trees were killed in the sending of this message. However a large number of electrons were terribly inconvenienced. > > -- > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com _________________________________________________________________ Keep your kids safer online with Windows Live Family Safety. http://www.windowslive.com/family_safety/overview.html?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_fam ily_safety_072008 -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From adtp at airtelmail.in Tue Jul 22 12:37:05 2008 From: adtp at airtelmail.in (A.D.Tejpal) Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 23:07:05 +0530 Subject: [AccessD] Report printed or previewed References: <487F0A23.10901@mvps.org><006201c8e8f2$e7db0780$5a5ea27a@personald6374f> <48850957.4010202@mvps.org> Message-ID: <013401c8ec21$aade7240$115fa27a@personald6374f> You are most welcome Steve! Nice of you to share the follow up. Best wishes, A.D.Tejpal ------------ ----- Original Message ----- From: Steve Schapel To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving Sent: Tuesday, July 22, 2008 03:40 Subject: Re: [AccessD] Report printed or previewed Thank you very much for this ingenious idea, A.D. Expecting there to be no way, I have now tacked the problem in a different way. Besides, some of the reports I was looking at would be only 1 page. Nevertheless, your answer has given food for thought, and added to my knowledge and understanding of the report process. Regards Steve A.D.Tejpal wrote: > Steve, > > One way for programmatic detection of report's open status (Print or > Preview) could be by checking whether the print event of page header > on page 2 has fired closely after Page event on page 1. Of course > this presumes a report sized more than one page. > > Sample code in report's module, as given below, should be able to do > the needful. > > Detecting print preview status could be somewhat trickier, as the > report can sit on page 1 itself for a prolonged period. Thus we can > not keep waiting for the print event on page 2 to fire. For tackling > this situation, we can use form's Timer event. Sample code in form's > module, as given below, in conjunction with the global variable in > general module as shown, should be able to detect print preview > status of the report. From davidmcafee at gmail.com Tue Jul 22 13:06:53 2008 From: davidmcafee at gmail.com (David McAfee) Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 11:06:53 -0700 Subject: [AccessD] Alt Tabbing between VBA Window and Access Window Message-ID: <8786a4c00807221106t577abf49pe35c3d3416f001a2@mail.gmail.com> When I am switching back and forth between the Access Window (editing forms) and the VBA Window (Editing code), I run into this annoyance. If I leave the properties window open for a given form (such as I clicked on a command button, cmdOK then chose the OnClick event), typed my code, then alt tab to switch back to the Form, I only get the property Window to pop up. If the property window is not opened, I can switch back and forth between forms and VBA all day long without a problem. If I click on Access from the task bar, while in VBA, the same thing happens, but I can click a second time and the forms appear. The trouble is, I like to use the keyboard for everything, I use the mouse very little. Is there a setting I can change in Access or something in the registry? I am running WinXP SP3 (Did it in SP2 too), I do have dual monitors, but I beilieve this happens at home as well, where I only have one monitor. Thanks in advance, David From cfoust at infostatsystems.com Tue Jul 22 13:25:13 2008 From: cfoust at infostatsystems.com (Charlotte Foust) Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 11:25:13 -0700 Subject: [AccessD] Alt Tabbing between VBA Window and Access Window In-Reply-To: <8786a4c00807221106t577abf49pe35c3d3416f001a2@mail.gmail.com> References: <8786a4c00807221106t577abf49pe35c3d3416f001a2@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: I never found a way around this except to not leave those blasted property windows open when I switched to VBA. If you get the property dialog and close it, the forms will load. Charlotte Foust -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of David McAfee Sent: Tuesday, July 22, 2008 11:07 AM To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving Subject: [AccessD] Alt Tabbing between VBA Window and Access Window When I am switching back and forth between the Access Window (editing forms) and the VBA Window (Editing code), I run into this annoyance. If I leave the properties window open for a given form (such as I clicked on a command button, cmdOK then chose the OnClick event), typed my code, then alt tab to switch back to the Form, I only get the property Window to pop up. If the property window is not opened, I can switch back and forth between forms and VBA all day long without a problem. If I click on Access from the task bar, while in VBA, the same thing happens, but I can click a second time and the forms appear. The trouble is, I like to use the keyboard for everything, I use the mouse very little. Is there a setting I can change in Access or something in the registry? I am running WinXP SP3 (Did it in SP2 too), I do have dual monitors, but I beilieve this happens at home as well, where I only have one monitor. Thanks in advance, David -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From davidmcafee at gmail.com Tue Jul 22 16:02:59 2008 From: davidmcafee at gmail.com (David McAfee) Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 14:02:59 -0700 Subject: [AccessD] Alt Tabbing between VBA Window and Access Window In-Reply-To: References: <8786a4c00807221106t577abf49pe35c3d3416f001a2@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <8786a4c00807221402j7be8956er4fdcc4a786734fb3@mail.gmail.com> Well I just found out that Alt + F11 works, but that will take some getting used to. :/ D On Tue, Jul 22, 2008 at 11:25 AM, Charlotte Foust wrote: > I never found a way around this except to not leave those blasted > property windows open when I switched to VBA. If you get the property > dialog and close it, the forms will load. > > Charlotte Foust > > -----Original Message----- > From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of David McAfee > Sent: Tuesday, July 22, 2008 11:07 AM > To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving > Subject: [AccessD] Alt Tabbing between VBA Window and Access Window > > When I am switching back and forth between the Access Window (editing > forms) and the VBA Window (Editing code), I run into this annoyance. > If I leave the properties window open for a given form (such as I > clicked on a command button, cmdOK then chose the OnClick event), typed > my code, then alt tab to switch back to the Form, I only get the > property Window to pop up. > > If the property window is not opened, I can switch back and forth > between forms and VBA all day long without a problem. > If I click on Access from the task bar, while in VBA, the same thing > happens, but I can click a second time and the forms appear. > The trouble is, I like to use the keyboard for everything, I use the > mouse very little. > > Is there a setting I can change in Access or something in the registry? > > I am running WinXP SP3 (Did it in SP2 too), I do have dual monitors, but > I beilieve this happens at home as well, where I only have one monitor. > > Thanks in advance, > David > -- > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > -- > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > From john at winhaven.net Tue Jul 22 17:12:24 2008 From: john at winhaven.net (John Bartow) Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 23:12:24 +0100 Subject: [AccessD] FW: MSDN Promo CRM:00034069 Message-ID: <200807222212.m6MMCG78027113@databaseadvisors.com> I thought some of you would be interested in this. 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Any tips? Is it a property I can set from an external mdb like 'AllowFullMenus' etc? (I want to leave the option normally on, but I am running an automatic rollout function which replaces the mde on user workstations with the latest version from the server. All works OK but the 'Compact on close' on the local workstation mde is conflicting with what I am doing.) ______________________________________ Kath Pelletti Software Design and Solutions Pty Ltd Ph: 9505-6714 Fax: 9505-6430 kp at sdsonline.net From kp at sdsonline.net Tue Jul 22 23:35:37 2008 From: kp at sdsonline.net (Kath Pelletti) Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2008 14:35:37 +1000 Subject: [AccessD] Remove 'compact on close' in an external mde References: <001201c8ec7b$9eed8d40$6401a8c0@DELLAPTOP> Message-ID: <001801c8ec7d$8f0fe5b0$6401a8c0@DELLAPTOP> Don't worry - worked it out: Application.SetOption ("Auto Compact"), 1 Application.SetOption ("Auto Compact"), 0 ta kath ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kath Pelletti" To: "Access D Normal List" Sent: Wednesday, July 23, 2008 2:21 PM Subject: [AccessD] Remove 'compact on close' in an external mde > Am struggling to find how to set 'Compact on Close' to false in an > external mde. > > Any tips? Is it a property I can set from an external mdb like > 'AllowFullMenus' etc? > > > (I want to leave the option normally on, but I am running an automatic > rollout function which replaces the mde on user workstations with the > latest version from the server. All works OK but the 'Compact on close' > on the local workstation mde is conflicting with what I am doing.) > > ______________________________________ > Kath Pelletti > Software Design and Solutions Pty Ltd > Ph: 9505-6714 > Fax: 9505-6430 > kp at sdsonline.net > -- > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > From mwp.reid at qub.ac.uk Wed Jul 23 04:58:08 2008 From: mwp.reid at qub.ac.uk (Martin Reid) Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2008 10:58:08 +0100 Subject: [AccessD] Access Requests Message-ID: Hi All >From a developers point of view and without going over new ground what tools would you like to see in Access that are not there already for example the ability to copy existing records into a new record, that sort of stuff! Feel free to email me of list Martin Martin WP Reid Information Services Queen's University Riddel Hall 185 Stranmillis Road Belfast BT9 5EE Tel : 02890974465 Email : mwp.reid at qub.ac.uk From mwp.reid at qub.ac.uk Wed Jul 23 05:06:17 2008 From: mwp.reid at qub.ac.uk (Martin Reid) Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2008 11:06:17 +0100 Subject: [AccessD] Access Requests In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Opps That should be without going over old ground! Martin Martin WP Reid Information Services Queen's University Riddel Hall 185 Stranmillis Road Belfast BT9 5EE Tel : 02890974465 Email : mwp.reid at qub.ac.uk ________________________________________ From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Martin Reid [mwp.reid at qub.ac.uk] Sent: 23 July 2008 10:58 To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving Subject: [AccessD] Access Requests Hi All >From a developers point of view and without going over new ground what tools would you like to see in Access that are not there already for example the ability to copy existing records into a new record, that sort of stuff! Feel free to email me of list Martin Martin WP Reid Information Services Queen's University Riddel Hall 185 Stranmillis Road Belfast BT9 5EE Tel : 02890974465 Email : mwp.reid at qub.ac.uk -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From Darryl.Collins at coles.com.au Wed Jul 23 06:08:15 2008 From: Darryl.Collins at coles.com.au (Darryl Collins) Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2008 21:08:15 +1000 Subject: [AccessD] Access Requests In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <57E6E6CA42105A48B977303A2CDC2720076BF12DA4@WPEXCH22.retail.ad.cmltd.net.au> Hi Martin, I guess in the ideal world you would never need it, but I would really like a decent search and replace functionality. Also something like "duplicate" and "Replicate" from Excel would be handy at times, especially when having to clean data. -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Martin Reid Sent: Wednesday, 23 July 2008 7:58 PM To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving Subject: [AccessD] Access Requests Hi All >From a developers point of view and without going over new ground what tools would you like to see in Access that are not there already for example the ability to copy existing records into a new record, that sort of stuff! Feel free to email me of list Martin Martin WP Reid Information Services Queen's University Riddel Hall 185 Stranmillis Road Belfast BT9 5EE Tel : 02890974465 Email : mwp.reid at qub.ac.uk -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com This email and any attachments may contain privileged and confidential information and are intended for the named addressee only. If you have received this e-mail in error, please notify the sender and delete this e-mail immediately. Any confidentiality, privilege or copyright is not waived or lost because this e-mail has been sent to you in error. It is your responsibility to check this e-mail and any attachments for viruses. No warranty is made that this material is free from computer virus or any other defect or error. Any loss/damage incurred by using this material is not the sender's responsibility. The sender's entire liability will be limited to resupplying the material. From fuller.artful at gmail.com Wed Jul 23 07:18:42 2008 From: fuller.artful at gmail.com (Arthur Fuller) Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2008 09:18:42 -0300 Subject: [AccessD] Access Requests In-Reply-To: <57E6E6CA42105A48B977303A2CDC2720076BF12DA4@WPEXCH22.retail.ad.cmltd.net.au> References: <57E6E6CA42105A48B977303A2CDC2720076BF12DA4@WPEXCH22.retail.ad.cmltd.net.au> Message-ID: <29f585dd0807230518l1486f056v224a2cc2f5d7bead@mail.gmail.com> I'd like an easy way to convert an old-style switchboard system to a new-style (A2K7) custom navigation pane (I forget what it's called and I only have A2K7 installed on my notebook which is at home so I can't check, but that pane on the left which replaces the database window). Arthur P.S. I kind of liked that "without going over new ground". :) From DWUTKA at Marlow.com Wed Jul 23 08:57:49 2008 From: DWUTKA at Marlow.com (Drew Wutka) Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2008 08:57:49 -0500 Subject: [AccessD] Access Requests In-Reply-To: Message-ID: A security system based on NT accounts. Drew -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Martin Reid Sent: Wednesday, July 23, 2008 4:58 AM To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving Subject: [AccessD] Access Requests Hi All >From a developers point of view and without going over new ground what tools would you like to see in Access that are not there already for example the ability to copy existing records into a new record, that sort of stuff! Feel free to email me of list Martin Martin WP Reid Information Services Queen's University Riddel Hall 185 Stranmillis Road Belfast BT9 5EE Tel : 02890974465 Email : mwp.reid at qub.ac.uk -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com The information contained in this transmission is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain II-VI Proprietary and/or II-VI Business Sensitive material. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender immediately and destroy the material in its entirety, whether electronic or hard copy. You are notified that any review, retransmission, copying, disclosure, dissemination, or other use of, or taking of any action in reliance upon this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient is prohibited. From markamatte at hotmail.com Wed Jul 23 09:21:34 2008 From: markamatte at hotmail.com (Mark A Matte) Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2008 14:21:34 +0000 Subject: [AccessD] Alt Tabbing between VBA Window and Access Window In-Reply-To: <8786a4c00807221402j7be8956er4fdcc4a786734fb3@mail.gmail.com> References: <8786a4c00807221106t577abf49pe35c3d3416f001a2@mail.gmail.com> <8786a4c00807221402j7be8956er4fdcc4a786734fb3@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: You could just click on the form before switching to VBA...alt+tab(once) brings back the last window to have focus. If the properties window had focus and you switch to VBA...alt+tab will bring the properties window back... If the form has focus...the form will show. Mark > Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 14:02:59 -0700 > From: davidmcafee at gmail.com > To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com > Subject: Re: [AccessD] Alt Tabbing between VBA Window and Access Window > > Well I just found out that Alt + F11 works, but that will take some > getting used to. :/ > > D > > On Tue, Jul 22, 2008 at 11:25 AM, Charlotte Foust > wrote: >> I never found a way around this except to not leave those blasted >> property windows open when I switched to VBA. If you get the property >> dialog and close it, the forms will load. >> >> Charlotte Foust >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com >> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of David McAfee >> Sent: Tuesday, July 22, 2008 11:07 AM >> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving >> Subject: [AccessD] Alt Tabbing between VBA Window and Access Window >> >> When I am switching back and forth between the Access Window (editing >> forms) and the VBA Window (Editing code), I run into this annoyance. >> If I leave the properties window open for a given form (such as I >> clicked on a command button, cmdOK then chose the OnClick event), typed >> my code, then alt tab to switch back to the Form, I only get the >> property Window to pop up. >> >> If the property window is not opened, I can switch back and forth >> between forms and VBA all day long without a problem. >> If I click on Access from the task bar, while in VBA, the same thing >> happens, but I can click a second time and the forms appear. >> The trouble is, I like to use the keyboard for everything, I use the >> mouse very little. >> >> Is there a setting I can change in Access or something in the registry? >> >> I am running WinXP SP3 (Did it in SP2 too), I do have dual monitors, but >> I beilieve this happens at home as well, where I only have one monitor. >> >> Thanks in advance, >> David >> -- >> AccessD mailing list >> AccessD at databaseadvisors.com >> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd >> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com >> >> -- >> AccessD mailing list >> AccessD at databaseadvisors.com >> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd >> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com >> > -- > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com _________________________________________________________________ With Windows Live for mobile, your contacts travel with you. http://www.windowslive.com/mobile/overview.html?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_mobile_072008 From jengross at gte.net Wed Jul 23 12:55:28 2008 From: jengross at gte.net (Jennifer Gross) Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2008 09:55:28 -0800 Subject: [AccessD] Access Requests In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <0K4G00GCLXUH4RZB@vms046.mailsrvcs.net> I currently use pretty exclusively A2K, so they may have already handled this in newer versions - but I would like to be able to Alt-Tab through open modules. Jennifer -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Martin Reid Sent: Wednesday, July 23, 2008 1:58 AM To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving Subject: [AccessD] Access Requests Hi All >From a developers point of view and without going over new ground what tools would you like to see in Access that are not there already for example the ability to copy existing records into a new record, that sort of stuff! Feel free to email me of list Martin Martin WP Reid Information Services Queen's University Riddel Hall 185 Stranmillis Road Belfast BT9 5EE Tel : 02890974465 Email : mwp.reid at qub.ac.uk -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From Gustav at cactus.dk Wed Jul 23 12:07:06 2008 From: Gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock) Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2008 19:07:06 +0200 Subject: [AccessD] Access Requests Message-ID: Hi Jennifer Ctrl+F6 does that. /gustav >>> jengross at gte.net 23-07-2008 19:55 >>> I currently use pretty exclusively A2K, so they may have already handled this in newer versions - but I would like to be able to Alt-Tab through open modules. Jennifer -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Martin Reid Sent: Wednesday, July 23, 2008 1:58 AM To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving Subject: [AccessD] Access Requests Hi All >From a developers point of view and without going over new ground what tools would you like to see in Access that are not there already for example the ability to copy existing records into a new record, that sort of stuff! Feel free to email me of list Martin From jengross at gte.net Wed Jul 23 13:13:22 2008 From: jengross at gte.net (Jennifer Gross) Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2008 10:13:22 -0800 Subject: [AccessD] Access Requests In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <0K4G00J47YO87W1E@vms173005.mailsrvcs.net> Thanks Gustav. That will take a bit of getting used to and may not be any easier than going to the mouse. It still would be great if it were on the "standard" Alt-Tab so that if you Alt-Tab'd to the modules window you didn't then have to switch to Ctl-F6 to move between modules. Just like moving between open forms, reports and tables uses Alt-Tab if I Show Windows. Jennifer -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gustav Brock Sent: Wednesday, July 23, 2008 9:07 AM To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: Re: [AccessD] Access Requests Hi Jennifer Ctrl+F6 does that. /gustav >>> jengross at gte.net 23-07-2008 19:55 >>> I currently use pretty exclusively A2K, so they may have already handled this in newer versions - but I would like to be able to Alt-Tab through open modules. Jennifer -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Martin Reid Sent: Wednesday, July 23, 2008 1:58 AM To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving Subject: [AccessD] Access Requests Hi All >From a developers point of view and without going over new ground what tools would you like to see in Access that are not there already for example the ability to copy existing records into a new record, that sort of stuff! Feel free to email me of list Martin -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From Lambert.Heenan at AIG.com Wed Jul 23 12:32:43 2008 From: Lambert.Heenan at AIG.com (Heenan, Lambert) Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2008 12:32:43 -0500 Subject: [AccessD] Access Requests Message-ID: <34C8A2AB1EF3564CB0D64DB6AFFDD5C2176FD936@XLIVMBX35bkup.aig.com> Ctrl+F6 is totally standard. It is, and always has been, the key combination that you use to cycle though the open windows of a single MDI application. Alt-TAB is the standard way of cycling though all the open applications. In this context the VBA editor is one application, and the MSAccess window is another application: you'll see them both listed as such in Task Manager. Alt-Tab 'works' when you use the "Show Windows In Taskbar" option as that forces Access to treat each MDI window in the Access application as if it was a discreet SDI window. Leave that option unchecked and you'll find that Ctrl-F6 cycles the database object windows too. I never figured out why anyone would want to clutter their taskbar with all those extra icons, so I never use that option myself :-) HTH Lambert -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jennifer Gross Sent: Wednesday, July 23, 2008 2:13 PM To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' Subject: Re: [AccessD] Access Requests Thanks Gustav. That will take a bit of getting used to and may not be any easier than going to the mouse. It still would be great if it were on the "standard" Alt-Tab so that if you Alt-Tab'd to the modules window you didn't then have to switch to Ctl-F6 to move between modules. Just like moving between open forms, reports and tables uses Alt-Tab if I Show Windows. Jennifer -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gustav Brock Sent: Wednesday, July 23, 2008 9:07 AM To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: Re: [AccessD] Access Requests Hi Jennifer Ctrl+F6 does that. /gustav >>> jengross at gte.net 23-07-2008 19:55 >>> I currently use pretty exclusively A2K, so they may have already handled this in newer versions - but I would like to be able to Alt-Tab through open modules. Jennifer -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Martin Reid Sent: Wednesday, July 23, 2008 1:58 AM To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving Subject: [AccessD] Access Requests Hi All >From a developers point of view and without going over new ground what tools would you like to see in Access that are not there already for example the ability to copy existing records into a new record, that sort of stuff! Feel free to email me of list Martin -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From jengross at gte.net Wed Jul 23 13:43:48 2008 From: jengross at gte.net (Jennifer Gross) Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2008 10:43:48 -0800 Subject: [AccessD] Access Requests In-Reply-To: <34C8A2AB1EF3564CB0D64DB6AFFDD5C2176FD936@XLIVMBX35bkup.aig.com> Message-ID: <0K4H00GEZ02X4QAD@vms046.mailsrvcs.net> Hi Lambert, Interesting how different people see things differently. I take no notice of the 'clutter' on the taskbar. I move very, very quickly from one window to another with Alt-Tab - almost never look to the taskbar to find the window I need. So, to hopefully use the proper jargon, my wish list for tools in Access that don't already exist is an option in the VBA editor to treat each MDI window (module) as a discreet SDI window, just like they have in the MSAccess application. Jennifer -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Heenan, Lambert Sent: Wednesday, July 23, 2008 9:33 AM To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' Subject: Re: [AccessD] Access Requests Ctrl+F6 is totally standard. It is, and always has been, the key Ctrl+combination that you use to cycle though the open windows of a single MDI application. Alt-TAB is the standard way of cycling though all the open applications. In this context the VBA editor is one application, and the MSAccess window is another application: you'll see them both listed as such in Task Manager. Alt-Tab 'works' when you use the "Show Windows In Taskbar" option as that forces Access to treat each MDI window in the Access application as if it was a discreet SDI window. Leave that option unchecked and you'll find that Ctrl-F6 cycles the database object windows too. I never figured out why anyone would want to clutter their taskbar with all those extra icons, so I never use that option myself :-) HTH Lambert -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jennifer Gross Sent: Wednesday, July 23, 2008 2:13 PM To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' Subject: Re: [AccessD] Access Requests Thanks Gustav. That will take a bit of getting used to and may not be any easier than going to the mouse. It still would be great if it were on the "standard" Alt-Tab so that if you Alt-Tab'd to the modules window you didn't then have to switch to Ctl-F6 to move between modules. Just like moving between open forms, reports and tables uses Alt-Tab if I Show Windows. Jennifer -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gustav Brock Sent: Wednesday, July 23, 2008 9:07 AM To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: Re: [AccessD] Access Requests Hi Jennifer Ctrl+F6 does that. /gustav >>> jengross at gte.net 23-07-2008 19:55 >>> I currently use pretty exclusively A2K, so they may have already handled this in newer versions - but I would like to be able to Alt-Tab through open modules. Jennifer -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Martin Reid Sent: Wednesday, July 23, 2008 1:58 AM To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving Subject: [AccessD] Access Requests Hi All >From a developers point of view and without going over new ground what tools would you like to see in Access that are not there already for example the ability to copy existing records into a new record, that sort of stuff! Feel free to email me of list Martin -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From Lambert.Heenan at AIG.com Wed Jul 23 13:26:22 2008 From: Lambert.Heenan at AIG.com (Heenan, Lambert) Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2008 14:26:22 -0400 Subject: [AccessD] Access Requests Message-ID: <34C8A2AB1EF3564CB0D64DB6AFFDD5C2176FD97F@XLIVMBX35bkup.aig.com> I completely agree about how this is a case of "different strokes for different folks". As it happens I'm a keyboard shortcut collector. While I will often *look* at the taskbar to quickly check what's running, I almost invariably use Alt-Tab to jump between application. Here though I have to stress "Applications". To me MSAccess is one application, and if I happen to have four forms, a report and a couple of queries open in design view, I don't want to use half a dozen extra Alt-Tabs to cycle though all those Access windows, which is why I never have the option set. Once I get into the Access window it's second nature to me to use Ctrl-F6 to cycle though *its* MDI windows, and to also use Ctrl-F4 to close the active one. As for the VBA editor, the way things work (in Access 2002) are kind of bizarre. I just opened an MS app, selected one module and hit the "Design" button. The VBA editor opens, but if you look at the Windows menu in the editor you'll see that what looks like *every* module in the application is listed as Open - over 100 windows. So if you get your wish I for one hope that it will be a user selectable option. :-) My wish would be that the VBA editor only lists modules that have actually been opened Lambert -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jennifer Gross Sent: Wednesday, July 23, 2008 2:44 PM To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' Subject: Re: [AccessD] Access Requests Hi Lambert, Interesting how different people see things differently. I take no notice of the 'clutter' on the taskbar. I move very, very quickly from one window to another with Alt-Tab - almost never look to the taskbar to find the window I need. So, to hopefully use the proper jargon, my wish list for tools in Access that don't already exist is an option in the VBA editor to treat each MDI window (module) as a discreet SDI window, just like they have in the MSAccess application. Jennifer From jengross at gte.net Wed Jul 23 14:40:15 2008 From: jengross at gte.net (Jennifer Gross) Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2008 11:40:15 -0800 Subject: [AccessD] Access Requests In-Reply-To: <34C8A2AB1EF3564CB0D64DB6AFFDD5C2176FD97F@XLIVMBX35bkup.aig.com> Message-ID: <0K4H00HPN2P4MU8M@vms173003.mailsrvcs.net> I just checked Access 2003 and in the VBA editor the Windows menu only lists the modules that are truly open. So it seems they may have addressed this issue. Who knows though, they may have put it back in the latest version of Access. If I recall in A97, since the VBA editor was not a separate program Show Windows encompassed both the MSAccess side and the VBA editor side. In A2K when they split out the VBA editor is when things changed. Jennifer -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Heenan, Lambert Sent: Wednesday, July 23, 2008 10:26 AM To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' Subject: Re: [AccessD] Access Requests I completely agree about how this is a case of "different strokes for different folks". As it happens I'm a keyboard shortcut collector. While I will often *look* at the taskbar to quickly check what's running, I almost invariably use Alt-Tab to jump between application. Here though I have to stress "Applications". To me MSAccess is one application, and if I happen to have four forms, a report and a couple of queries open in design view, I don't want to use half a dozen extra Alt-Tabs to cycle though all those Access windows, which is why I never have the option set. Once I get into the Access window it's second nature to me to use Ctrl-F6 to cycle though *its* MDI windows, and to also use Ctrl-F4 to close the active one. As for the VBA editor, the way things work (in Access 2002) are kind of bizarre. I just opened an MS app, selected one module and hit the "Design" button. The VBA editor opens, but if you look at the Windows menu in the editor you'll see that what looks like *every* module in the application is listed as Open - over 100 windows. So if you get your wish I for one hope that it will be a user selectable option. :-) My wish would be that the VBA editor only lists modules that have actually been opened Lambert -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jennifer Gross Sent: Wednesday, July 23, 2008 2:44 PM To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' Subject: Re: [AccessD] Access Requests Hi Lambert, Interesting how different people see things differently. I take no notice of the 'clutter' on the taskbar. I move very, very quickly from one window to another with Alt-Tab - almost never look to the taskbar to find the window I need. So, to hopefully use the proper jargon, my wish list for tools in Access that don't already exist is an option in the VBA editor to treat each MDI window (module) as a discreet SDI window, just like they have in the MSAccess application. Jennifer -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From wdhindman at dejpolsystems.com Wed Jul 23 13:46:38 2008 From: wdhindman at dejpolsystems.com (William Hindman) Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2008 14:46:38 -0400 Subject: [AccessD] Access Requests References: <34C8A2AB1EF3564CB0D64DB6AFFDD5C2176FD97F@XLIVMBX35bkup.aig.com> Message-ID: "My wish would be that the VBA editor only lists modules that have actually been opened" Lambert ...amen to that! William -------------------------------------------------- From: "Heenan, Lambert" Sent: Wednesday, July 23, 2008 2:26 PM To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'" Subject: Re: [AccessD] Access Requests > I completely agree about how this is a case of "different strokes for > different folks". > > As it happens I'm a keyboard shortcut collector. While I will often *look* > at the taskbar to quickly check what's running, I almost invariably use > Alt-Tab to jump between application. Here though I have to stress > "Applications". To me MSAccess is one application, and if I happen to have > four forms, a report and a couple of queries open in design view, I don't > want to use half a dozen extra Alt-Tabs to cycle though all those Access > windows, which is why I never have the option set. Once I get into the > Access window it's second nature to me to use Ctrl-F6 to cycle though > *its* > MDI windows, and to also use Ctrl-F4 to close the active one. > > As for the VBA editor, the way things work (in Access 2002) are kind of > bizarre. I just opened an MS app, selected one module and hit the "Design" > button. The VBA editor opens, but if you look at the Windows menu in the > editor you'll see that what looks like *every* module in the application > is > listed as Open - over 100 windows. > > So if you get your wish I for one hope that it will be a user selectable > option. :-) > > My wish would be that the VBA editor only lists modules that have actually > been opened > > Lambert > > -----Original Message----- > From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jennifer Gross > Sent: Wednesday, July 23, 2008 2:44 PM > To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' > Subject: Re: [AccessD] Access Requests > > Hi Lambert, > > Interesting how different people see things differently. I take no notice > of the 'clutter' on the taskbar. I move very, very quickly from one > window > to another with Alt-Tab - almost never look to the taskbar to find the > window I need. > > So, to hopefully use the proper jargon, my wish list for tools in Access > that don't already exist is an option in the VBA editor to treat each MDI > window (module) as a discreet SDI window, just like they have in the > MSAccess application. > > Jennifer > -- > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From brock.christian at us.army.mil Wed Jul 23 17:01:14 2008 From: brock.christian at us.army.mil (Brock, Christian T CTR USA HRC) Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2008 18:01:14 -0400 Subject: [AccessD] ActiveDocument.SaveAs fails, Get "Server threw an exception" (UNCLASSIFIED) Message-ID: <3473717ED62A384FA23764D0EFE7D8C4026A55DA@ahrc00be0106285.nae.ds.army.mil> Classification: UNCLASSIFIED Caveats: NONE I have a dB that creates a word document based on a template, but when it gets to the point where is tries to save it using the ActiveDocument.SaveAs method, I get this error "-2147417851: Automation Error The Server threw an exception." This worked without any problems in Office 2003, but stop when I upgraded to Office 2007. I tried reverting back to 2003, but I still get the error now. Does anybody know how to fix this? Thanks Christian Brock Classification: UNCLASSIFIED Caveats: NONE From Gustav at cactus.dk Thu Jul 24 02:32:04 2008 From: Gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock) Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2008 09:32:04 +0200 Subject: [AccessD] Keyboard shortcuts (was: Access Requests) Message-ID: Hi Jennifer Other specials are: Ctrl+; -> current date Ctrl+: -> current time Ctrl++ (Ctrl + plussign) -> Finish typing and move to next record /gustav From Gustav at cactus.dk Thu Jul 24 02:59:12 2008 From: Gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock) Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2008 09:59:12 +0200 Subject: [AccessD] Using A2000+ forms and late-binding (ADO) to an A2007 (.accdb) backend Message-ID: Hi all Should you wish to use the encrypting feature of an accdb file with an mdb frontend, this is possible using late-binding and ADO: http://www.everythingaccess.com/tutorials.asp?ID=Using-an-Access-2007-%28%2Eaccdb%29-back-end-database-in-an-Access-2000%2B-front-end-application It seems not to be possible to use DAO for this. /gustav From paul.hartland at googlemail.com Thu Jul 24 03:56:04 2008 From: paul.hartland at googlemail.com (Paul Hartland) Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2008 09:56:04 +0100 Subject: [AccessD] OT - Cross Post Learning VB.Net Message-ID: <38c884770807240156t17f628bbw3dd7935cd80df20d@mail.gmail.com> To all, I want to start learning Visual Basic .Net, I did download VB 2005 Express, C++ 2005 Express, C# 2005 Express & SQL Server 2005 Express, but unfortunately didn't actually get around to playing with them. I have noticed that 2008 Express editions are now available, would it be worth using these instead of the 2005 Express editions ? Also, I would class myself as an intermediate to advanced VB6 developer, does anyone have any good suggestions on books, free web tutuorials that would get me started, I don't mind going right back to the beginning if I have to to learn this, as I am falling behind a long way. Oops another thought, does anyone know if there is anything like an ASP.Net Express edition or similar (or am I being thick lol) Thanks in advance for any help on this.... -- Paul Hartland paul.hartland at googlemail.com From max.wanadoo at gmail.com Thu Jul 24 03:56:32 2008 From: max.wanadoo at gmail.com (Max Wanadoo) Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2008 09:56:32 +0100 Subject: [AccessD] SQL - Alternative to using NOT IN Clause Message-ID: Hi Guys, Somebody posted an alternative to NOT IN (something to do with testing for nulls) but for the life of me, I cannot find it now that I need it. Could anybody help me out here please. Thanks Max From Gustav at cactus.dk Thu Jul 24 05:29:51 2008 From: Gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock) Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2008 12:29:51 +0200 Subject: [AccessD] Knol - a forum for articles? Message-ID: Hi all Could Google's Knol be a place for articles on development and the like for software? http://knol.google.com No fee for the author, of course, but no space limits and a (too?) broad audience. /gustav From Gustav at cactus.dk Thu Jul 24 06:05:57 2008 From: Gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock) Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2008 13:05:57 +0200 Subject: [AccessD] SQL - Alternative to using NOT IN Clause Message-ID: Hi Max Could it have been your own thread "Optimizing subqueries" in June? Anyway, you can make a helper query which the item to deselect, and in your main query create an outer join to this and use a where clause with Is Null for the key of the helper query. /gustav >>> max.wanadoo at gmail.com 24-07-2008 10:56 >>> Hi Guys, Somebody posted an alternative to NOT IN (something to do with testing for nulls) but for the life of me, I cannot find it now that I need it. Could anybody help me out here please. Thanks Max From dwaters at usinternet.com Thu Jul 24 06:56:23 2008 From: dwaters at usinternet.com (Dan Waters) Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2008 06:56:23 -0500 Subject: [AccessD] Call Stack in VBA? Message-ID: Is there a way to use VBA to record the call stack? In my error trapping routine, this would be incredibly helpful. Thanks! Dan From Darryl.Collins at coles.com.au Thu Jul 24 07:03:41 2008 From: Darryl.Collins at coles.com.au (Darryl Collins) Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2008 22:03:41 +1000 Subject: [AccessD] User Conference... In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <57E6E6CA42105A48B977303A2CDC2720076BF12DAF@WPEXCH22.retail.ad.cmltd.net.au> Hi, This is may be of some interest to some of you - Especially those of you how use both Excel and Access. I went to the Aussie conference in March this year and it was great. Well worth the dollars - most impressed. cheers Darryl. '------- Copied Email Follows ------------------------- Hello Atlantic City, New Jersey will once again host the Microsoft Excel / Access User Conference (Trump Taj Mahal) - On September 24-26, 2008. This year the conference will add Microsoft Access topics to bring spreadsheet and database users together to learn and share their knowledge with each other. The conference will feature sessions designed to expand a user's working knowledge of the dominant database and spreadsheet software. These sessions will be led by respected leaders in the Microsoft Excel and Access community. Some are respected authors, consultants and all have the MVP designation - Microsoft Most Valuable Professional (MVP). The Microsoft Office gurus are, Bernard Liengme, Damon Longworth, Jon Peltier and Bob Umlas. If you ever searched the internet for help with Office, you will surely run across one of these esteemed leaders. Each gained their expertise in the field, actually applying the skills in real world applications. This real world knowledge will be shared in each class and conference session, allowing those in attendance to take away a proficiency that will dramatically increase their productivity on a daily basis. Detailed information can be found at: http://www.exceluserconference.com/ECEUC.html or by sending an email to ConferenceChair at ExcelUserConference.com Damon Longworth - Microsoft Excel MVP 2008 US East Coast Excel / Access User Conference Atlantic City, New Jersey - Sept 24-26, 2008 www.ExcelUserConference.com/ ' ----------- End of Copied Email --------------------------------- This email and any attachments may contain privileged and confidential information and are intended for the named addressee only. If you have received this e-mail in error, please notify the sender and delete this e-mail immediately. Any confidentiality, privilege or copyright is not waived or lost because this e-mail has been sent to you in error. It is your responsibility to check this e-mail and any attachments for viruses. No warranty is made that this material is free from computer virus or any other defect or error. Any loss/damage incurred by using this material is not the sender's responsibility. The sender's entire liability will be limited to resupplying the material. From Gustav at cactus.dk Thu Jul 24 07:17:34 2008 From: Gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock) Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2008 14:17:34 +0200 Subject: [AccessD] OT - Cross Post Learning VB.Net Message-ID: Hi Paul Welcome to the club! You can look up the thread "Old Dog - New Tricks" from January where Shamil and others posted some excellent links - including this: http://www.asp.net/learn/data-access/ This is an absolute must which will teach you about DataTables and TableAdapters and Data Access Layers (and much more) and lift you off all the SqlClient and SqlCommand stuff found everywhere which is waste of time to deal with except for very special purposes. Also, I enjoyed some of the free videos from this site: http://www.learnvisualstudio.net/ As for which version, go with the 2008 versions: http://www.microsoft.com/Express/ For web development it is the Visual Web Developer. To confuse you a little, I can tell that I used the opportunity (when moving from Access - and Access Basic and later VBA - to Visual Studio) to switch to C# following the advice from several fellow list members. It has been a pleasure and I don't regret that. Happy coding! /gustav >>> paul.hartland at googlemail.com 24-07-2008 10:56 >>> To all, I want to start learning Visual Basic .Net, I did download VB 2005 Express, C++ 2005 Express, C# 2005 Express & SQL Server 2005 Express, but unfortunately didn't actually get around to playing with them. I have noticed that 2008 Express editions are now available, would it be worth using these instead of the 2005 Express editions ? Also, I would class myself as an intermediate to advanced VB6 developer, does anyone have any good suggestions on books, free web tutuorials that would get me started, I don't mind going right back to the beginning if I have to to learn this, as I am falling behind a long way. Oops another thought, does anyone know if there is anything like an ASP.Net Express edition or similar (or am I being thick lol) Thanks in advance for any help on this.... -- Paul Hartland paul.hartland at googlemail.com From Lambert.Heenan at AIG.com Thu Jul 24 08:13:26 2008 From: Lambert.Heenan at AIG.com (Heenan, Lambert) Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2008 08:13:26 -0500 Subject: [AccessD] SQL - Alternative to using NOT IN Clause Message-ID: <34C8A2AB1EF3564CB0D64DB6AFFDD5C2176FDB00@XLIVMBX35bkup.aig.com> That would be a straightforward Unmatched query for which there is a wizard when you hit the New button in the query window. Lambert -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Max Wanadoo Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2008 4:57 AM To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving Subject: [AccessD] SQL - Alternative to using NOT IN Clause Hi Guys, Somebody posted an alternative to NOT IN (something to do with testing for nulls) but for the life of me, I cannot find it now that I need it. Could anybody help me out here please. Thanks Max -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From DWUTKA at Marlow.com Thu Jul 24 08:39:38 2008 From: DWUTKA at Marlow.com (Drew Wutka) Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2008 08:39:38 -0500 Subject: [AccessD] Keyboard shortcuts (was: Access Requests) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: And Ctrl ' will 'copy' the previous record's field into the active field. Works in both table view and forms. I remember it by thinking about ditto marks. Drew -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gustav Brock Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2008 2:32 AM To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: Re: [AccessD] Keyboard shortcuts (was: Access Requests) Hi Jennifer Other specials are: Ctrl+; -> current date Ctrl+: -> current time Ctrl++ (Ctrl + plussign) -> Finish typing and move to next record /gustav -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com The information contained in this transmission is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain II-VI Proprietary and/or II-VI Business Sensitive material. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender immediately and destroy the material in its entirety, whether electronic or hard copy. You are notified that any review, retransmission, copying, disclosure, dissemination, or other use of, or taking of any action in reliance upon this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient is prohibited. From DWUTKA at Marlow.com Thu Jul 24 08:40:40 2008 From: DWUTKA at Marlow.com (Drew Wutka) Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2008 08:40:40 -0500 Subject: [AccessD] SQL - Alternative to using NOT IN Clause In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Make it a left or right join, and then put Is Null in a field that shouldn't exist in the table missing records. Drew -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Max Wanadoo Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2008 3:57 AM To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving Subject: [AccessD] SQL - Alternative to using NOT IN Clause Hi Guys, Somebody posted an alternative to NOT IN (something to do with testing for nulls) but for the life of me, I cannot find it now that I need it. Could anybody help me out here please. Thanks Max -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com The information contained in this transmission is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain II-VI Proprietary and/or II-VI Business Sensitive material. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender immediately and destroy the material in its entirety, whether electronic or hard copy. You are notified that any review, retransmission, copying, disclosure, dissemination, or other use of, or taking of any action in reliance upon this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient is prohibited. From ssharkins at gmail.com Thu Jul 24 08:47:43 2008 From: ssharkins at gmail.com (Susan Harkins) Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2008 09:47:43 -0400 Subject: [AccessD] SQL - Alternative to using NOT IN Clause References: Message-ID: <0bd901c8ed93$db4ad8b0$2f8601c7@SusanOne> What? A field that shouldn't exist? Susan H. > Make it a left or right join, and then put Is Null in a field that > shouldn't exist in the table missing records. > From Lambert.Heenan at AIG.com Thu Jul 24 08:56:42 2008 From: Lambert.Heenan at AIG.com (Heenan, Lambert) Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2008 09:56:42 -0400 Subject: [AccessD] SQL - Alternative to using NOT IN Clause Message-ID: <34C8A2AB1EF3564CB0D64DB6AFFDD5C2176FDB40@XLIVMBX35bkup.aig.com> A field *value* that shouldn't/doesn't exist. Like so... SELECT DISTINCTROW SomeTable.ID, SomeTable.dDateAcknowledged FROM SomeTable LEFT JOIN Policy_Pipeline_tbl ON SomeTable.ID = SomeRelatedTable.FkID WHERE (((SomeRelatedTable.FkID) Is Null)); Lambert -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Susan Harkins Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2008 9:48 AM To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving Subject: Re: [AccessD] SQL - Alternative to using NOT IN Clause What? A field that shouldn't exist? Susan H. > Make it a left or right join, and then put Is Null in a field that > shouldn't exist in the table missing records. > -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From DWUTKA at Marlow.com Thu Jul 24 09:00:38 2008 From: DWUTKA at Marlow.com (Drew Wutka) Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2008 09:00:38 -0500 Subject: [AccessD] SQL - Alternative to using NOT IN Clause In-Reply-To: <0bd901c8ed93$db4ad8b0$2f8601c7@SusanOne> Message-ID: That shouldn't have related data....sorry, was up early for me, had to troubleshoot a problem in the UK office.... so read what I think, not what I type! ;) Drew -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Susan Harkins Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2008 8:48 AM To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving Subject: Re: [AccessD] SQL - Alternative to using NOT IN Clause What? A field that shouldn't exist? Susan H. > Make it a left or right join, and then put Is Null in a field that > shouldn't exist in the table missing records. > -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com The information contained in this transmission is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain II-VI Proprietary and/or II-VI Business Sensitive material. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender immediately and destroy the material in its entirety, whether electronic or hard copy. You are notified that any review, retransmission, copying, disclosure, dissemination, or other use of, or taking of any action in reliance upon this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient is prohibited. From markamatte at hotmail.com Thu Jul 24 09:20:54 2008 From: markamatte at hotmail.com (Mark A Matte) Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2008 14:20:54 +0000 Subject: [AccessD] OT - Cross Post Learning VB.Net In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I'm currently going through the videos on the site listed below. I'm enjoying it. Also...you can choose between the C# and VB video to watch. Mark A. Matte http://www.asp.net/learn/ > Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2008 14:17:34 +0200 > From: Gustav at cactus.dk > To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com > Subject: Re: [AccessD] OT - Cross Post Learning VB.Net > > Hi Paul > > Welcome to the club! > > You can look up the thread "Old Dog - New Tricks" from January where Shamil and others posted some excellent links - including this: > > http://www.asp.net/learn/data-access/ > > This is an absolute must which will teach you about DataTables and TableAdapters and Data Access Layers (and much more) and lift you off all the SqlClient and SqlCommand stuff found everywhere which is waste of time to deal with except for very special purposes. > > Also, I enjoyed some of the free videos from this site: > > http://www.learnvisualstudio.net/ > > As for which version, go with the 2008 versions: > > http://www.microsoft.com/Express/ > > For web development it is the Visual Web Developer. > > To confuse you a little, I can tell that I used the opportunity (when moving from Access - and Access Basic and later VBA - to Visual Studio) to switch to C# following the advice from several fellow list members. It has been a pleasure and I don't regret that. > > Happy coding! > > /gustav > > >>>> paul.hartland at googlemail.com 24-07-2008 10:56>>> > To all, > > I want to start learning Visual Basic .Net, I did download VB 2005 Express, > C++ 2005 Express, C# 2005 Express & SQL Server 2005 Express, but > unfortunately didn't actually get around to playing with them. > > I have noticed that 2008 Express editions are now available, would it be > worth using these instead of the 2005 Express editions ? > > Also, I would class myself as an intermediate to advanced VB6 developer, > does anyone have any good suggestions on books, free web tutuorials that > would get me started, I don't mind going right back to the beginning if I > have to to learn this, as I am falling behind a long way. > > Oops another thought, does anyone know if there is anything like an ASP.Net > Express edition or similar (or am I being thick lol) > > Thanks in advance for any help on this.... > > -- > Paul Hartland > paul.hartland at googlemail.com > > > > -- > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com _________________________________________________________________ Stay in touch when you're away with Windows Live Messenger. http://www.windowslive.com/messenger/overview.html?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_messenger2_072008 From Gustav at cactus.dk Thu Jul 24 09:09:08 2008 From: Gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock) Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2008 16:09:08 +0200 Subject: [AccessD] Keyboard shortcuts (was: Access Requests) Message-ID: Hi Drew But ditto marks aren't these like: -- " -- with a double quote? However, that works too: Ctrl+" as do Ctrl+@ and Ctrl+*. Also: Ctrl+- or Ctrl+_ -> delete a record as if you pushed Delete Ctrl+Space -> mark the current column Ctrl+Shift+Space -> mark the entire table and: Ctrl+Enter -> delete up to the cursor Ctrl+Delete -> delete from the cursor /gustav >>> DWUTKA at marlow.com 24-07-2008 15:39 >>> And Ctrl ' will 'copy' the previous record's field into the active field. Works in both table view and forms. I remember it by thinking about ditto marks. Drew -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gustav Brock Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2008 2:32 AM To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: Re: [AccessD] Keyboard shortcuts (was: Access Requests) Hi Jennifer Other specials are: Ctrl+; -> current date Ctrl+: -> current time Ctrl++ (Ctrl + plussign) -> Finish typing and move to next record /gustav From Lambert.Heenan at AIG.com Thu Jul 24 09:30:08 2008 From: Lambert.Heenan at AIG.com (Heenan, Lambert) Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2008 09:30:08 -0500 Subject: [AccessD] SQL - Alternative to using NOT IN Clause Message-ID: <34C8A2AB1EF3564CB0D64DB6AFFDD5C2176FDB7B@XLIVMBX35bkup.aig.com> Oops that should be... SELECT DISTINCTROW SomeTable.ID, SomeTable.dDateAcknowledged FROM SomeTable LEFT JOIN SomeRelatedTable ON SomeTable.ID = SomeRelatedTable.FkID WHERE (((SomeRelatedTable.FkID) Is Null)); Lambert -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Heenan, Lambert Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2008 9:57 AM To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' Subject: Re: [AccessD] SQL - Alternative to using NOT IN Clause A field *value* that shouldn't/doesn't exist. Like so... SELECT DISTINCTROW SomeTable.ID, SomeTable.dDateAcknowledged FROM SomeTable LEFT JOIN Policy_Pipeline_tbl ON SomeTable.ID = SomeRelatedTable.FkID WHERE (((SomeRelatedTable.FkID) Is Null)); Lambert -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Susan Harkins Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2008 9:48 AM To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving Subject: Re: [AccessD] SQL - Alternative to using NOT IN Clause What? A field that shouldn't exist? Susan H. > Make it a left or right join, and then put Is Null in a field that > shouldn't exist in the table missing records. > -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From DWUTKA at Marlow.com Thu Jul 24 09:38:43 2008 From: DWUTKA at Marlow.com (Drew Wutka) Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2008 09:38:43 -0500 Subject: [AccessD] Keyboard shortcuts (was: Access Requests) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Yes, it's the same key though, don't mess with my Quan this morning Gustav! ;) Drew -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gustav Brock Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2008 9:09 AM To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: Re: [AccessD] Keyboard shortcuts (was: Access Requests) Hi Drew But ditto marks aren't these like: -- " -- with a double quote? However, that works too: Ctrl+" as do Ctrl+@ and Ctrl+*. Also: Ctrl+- or Ctrl+_ -> delete a record as if you pushed Delete Ctrl+Space -> mark the current column Ctrl+Shift+Space -> mark the entire table and: Ctrl+Enter -> delete up to the cursor Ctrl+Delete -> delete from the cursor /gustav >>> DWUTKA at marlow.com 24-07-2008 15:39 >>> And Ctrl ' will 'copy' the previous record's field into the active field. Works in both table view and forms. I remember it by thinking about ditto marks. Drew -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gustav Brock Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2008 2:32 AM To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: Re: [AccessD] Keyboard shortcuts (was: Access Requests) Hi Jennifer Other specials are: Ctrl+; -> current date Ctrl+: -> current time Ctrl++ (Ctrl + plussign) -> Finish typing and move to next record /gustav -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com The information contained in this transmission is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain II-VI Proprietary and/or II-VI Business Sensitive material. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender immediately and destroy the material in its entirety, whether electronic or hard copy. You are notified that any review, retransmission, copying, disclosure, dissemination, or other use of, or taking of any action in reliance upon this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient is prohibited. From max.wanadoo at gmail.com Thu Jul 24 09:41:36 2008 From: max.wanadoo at gmail.com (Max Wanadoo) Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2008 15:41:36 +0100 Subject: [AccessD] SQL - Alternative to using NOT IN Clause In-Reply-To: <34C8A2AB1EF3564CB0D64DB6AFFDD5C2176FDB00@XLIVMBX35bkup.aig.com> References: <34C8A2AB1EF3564CB0D64DB6AFFDD5C2176FDB00@XLIVMBX35bkup.aig.com> Message-ID: Thanks Lambert. Max On Thu, Jul 24, 2008 at 2:13 PM, Heenan, Lambert wrote: > That would be a straightforward Unmatched query for which there is a wizard > when you hit the New button in the query window. > > Lambert > > -----Original Message----- > From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Max Wanadoo > Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2008 4:57 AM > To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving > Subject: [AccessD] SQL - Alternative to using NOT IN Clause > > Hi Guys, > Somebody posted an alternative to NOT IN (something to do with testing for > nulls) but for the life of me, I cannot find it now that I need it. > Could anybody help me out here please. > Thanks > Max > -- > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > -- > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > From fuller.artful at gmail.com Thu Jul 24 09:47:12 2008 From: fuller.artful at gmail.com (Arthur Fuller) Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2008 11:47:12 -0300 Subject: [AccessD] Call Stack in VBA? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <29f585dd0807240747j7be6db46ve28060eed8165dae@mail.gmail.com> What a great idea! I hope someone has your answer. You're right, it would be incredibly useful. On Thu, Jul 24, 2008 at 8:56 AM, Dan Waters wrote: > Is there a way to use VBA to record the call stack? In my error trapping > routine, this would be incredibly helpful. > > Thanks! > Dan > From Gustav at cactus.dk Thu Jul 24 10:00:53 2008 From: Gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock) Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2008 17:00:53 +0200 Subject: [AccessD] Keyboard shortcuts (was: Access Requests) Message-ID: Hi Drew Not on my localised keyboard. Here " is Shift+2 while ' is the key next to Enter. /gustav >>> DWUTKA at marlow.com 24-07-2008 16:38 >>> Yes, it's the same key though, don't mess with my Quan this morning Gustav! ;) Drew -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gustav Brock Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2008 9:09 AM To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: Re: [AccessD] Keyboard shortcuts (was: Access Requests) Hi Drew But ditto marks aren't these like: -- " -- with a double quote? However, that works too: Ctrl+" as do Ctrl+@ and Ctrl+*. Also: Ctrl+- or Ctrl+_ -> delete a record as if you pushed Delete Ctrl+Space -> mark the current column Ctrl+Shift+Space -> mark the entire table and: Ctrl+Enter -> delete up to the cursor Ctrl+Delete -> delete from the cursor /gustav >>> DWUTKA at marlow.com 24-07-2008 15:39 >>> And Ctrl ' will 'copy' the previous record's field into the active field. Works in both table view and forms. I remember it by thinking about ditto marks. Drew -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gustav Brock Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2008 2:32 AM To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: Re: [AccessD] Keyboard shortcuts (was: Access Requests) Hi Jennifer Other specials are: Ctrl+; -> current date Ctrl+: -> current time Ctrl++ (Ctrl + plussign) -> Finish typing and move to next record /gustav From cfoust at infostatsystems.com Thu Jul 24 10:17:41 2008 From: cfoust at infostatsystems.com (Charlotte Foust) Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2008 08:17:41 -0700 Subject: [AccessD] Call Stack in VBA? In-Reply-To: <29f585dd0807240747j7be6db46ve28060eed8165dae@mail.gmail.com> References: <29f585dd0807240747j7be6db46ve28060eed8165dae@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: I don't know if you can get at the actual call stack, but you can use "push" methods to write a line to a collection, an xmlfile or even a straight text file and "pop" methods to remove the line after the call successfully executes. An error would result in the "pop" not being executed, giving you a list of steps that got you to the error. I used to do this years ago based on an article written for A97 (I think) that I adapted to my own uses. I created a CallStack class with push and pop methods, but it took a lot of work to pass the name of each routine into the stack since Access didn't give a simple method for retrieving the name of the procedure. I finally used a local constant, procName, in each routine and populated it when I built the routine. Actually, searching back through my archives, I find that Lambert posted a clsStack, which uses a collection, ages ago as well, so you might root through the archives for more. Charlotte Foust -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Arthur Fuller Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2008 7:47 AM To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving Subject: Re: [AccessD] Call Stack in VBA? What a great idea! I hope someone has your answer. You're right, it would be incredibly useful. On Thu, Jul 24, 2008 at 8:56 AM, Dan Waters wrote: > Is there a way to use VBA to record the call stack? In my error > trapping routine, this would be incredibly helpful. > > Thanks! > Dan > -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From DWUTKA at Marlow.com Thu Jul 24 10:59:36 2008 From: DWUTKA at Marlow.com (Drew Wutka) Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2008 10:59:36 -0500 Subject: [AccessD] Keyboard shortcuts (was: Access Requests) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Funny you mention that. Yesterday I had to setup a new 'exec' in our company, who is heading up our European sales force, and he'll be located in Germany. I had to get his laptop setup on our domain, and install our VPN software. It was Vista (yeck, and hardly use it at all...), it was in German (VERY rusty with that), and it had a different (assuming German) keyboard, letters and symbols all over.... I told my boss I deserved a raise for getting that done! ;) Drew -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gustav Brock Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2008 10:01 AM To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: Re: [AccessD] Keyboard shortcuts (was: Access Requests) Hi Drew Not on my localised keyboard. Here " is Shift+2 while ' is the key next to Enter. /gustav >>> DWUTKA at marlow.com 24-07-2008 16:38 >>> Yes, it's the same key though, don't mess with my Quan this morning Gustav! ;) Drew The information contained in this transmission is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain II-VI Proprietary and/or II-VI Business Sensitive material. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender immediately and destroy the material in its entirety, whether electronic or hard copy. You are notified that any review, retransmission, copying, disclosure, dissemination, or other use of, or taking of any action in reliance upon this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient is prohibited. From dwaters at usinternet.com Thu Jul 24 11:15:20 2008 From: dwaters at usinternet.com (Dan Waters) Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2008 11:15:20 -0500 Subject: [AccessD] Call Stack in VBA? In-Reply-To: References: <29f585dd0807240747j7be6db46ve28060eed8165dae@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <2653819ECE2A4CFBB820CF7A67C9B31E@danwaters> Thanks Charlotte - I just checked the archives for clsStack, but no results came back. Do you have more information about what Lambert posted? Thanks, Dan -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Charlotte Foust Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2008 10:18 AM To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving Subject: Re: [AccessD] Call Stack in VBA? I don't know if you can get at the actual call stack, but you can use "push" methods to write a line to a collection, an xmlfile or even a straight text file and "pop" methods to remove the line after the call successfully executes. An error would result in the "pop" not being executed, giving you a list of steps that got you to the error. I used to do this years ago based on an article written for A97 (I think) that I adapted to my own uses. I created a CallStack class with push and pop methods, but it took a lot of work to pass the name of each routine into the stack since Access didn't give a simple method for retrieving the name of the procedure. I finally used a local constant, procName, in each routine and populated it when I built the routine. Actually, searching back through my archives, I find that Lambert posted a clsStack, which uses a collection, ages ago as well, so you might root through the archives for more. Charlotte Foust -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Arthur Fuller Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2008 7:47 AM To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving Subject: Re: [AccessD] Call Stack in VBA? What a great idea! I hope someone has your answer. You're right, it would be incredibly useful. On Thu, Jul 24, 2008 at 8:56 AM, Dan Waters wrote: > Is there a way to use VBA to record the call stack? In my error > trapping routine, this would be incredibly helpful. > > Thanks! > Dan > -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From Gustav at cactus.dk Thu Jul 24 11:20:06 2008 From: Gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock) Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2008 18:20:06 +0200 Subject: [AccessD] Keyboard shortcuts (was: Access Requests) Message-ID: Hi Drew Now listen to to that ... we deal with such tasks every day! /gustav >>> DWUTKA at marlow.com 24-07-2008 17:59 >>> Funny you mention that. Yesterday I had to setup a new 'exec' in our company, who is heading up our European sales force, and he'll be located in Germany. I had to get his laptop setup on our domain, and install our VPN software. It was Vista (yeck, and hardly use it at all...), it was in German (VERY rusty with that), and it had a different (assuming German) keyboard, letters and symbols all over.... I told my boss I deserved a raise for getting that done! ;) Drew -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gustav Brock Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2008 10:01 AM To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: Re: [AccessD] Keyboard shortcuts (was: Access Requests) Hi Drew Not on my localised keyboard. Here " is Shift+2 while ' is the key next to Enter. /gustav From cfoust at infostatsystems.com Thu Jul 24 11:44:23 2008 From: cfoust at infostatsystems.com (Charlotte Foust) Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2008 09:44:23 -0700 Subject: [AccessD] Call Stack in VBA? In-Reply-To: <2653819ECE2A4CFBB820CF7A67C9B31E@danwaters> References: <29f585dd0807240747j7be6db46ve28060eed8165dae@mail.gmail.com> <2653819ECE2A4CFBB820CF7A67C9B31E@danwaters> Message-ID: I wonder if he posted it on the L list? Anyhow, here's the code: ' Code starts - save as a Class module named clsStack '################################### Option Compare Database Option Explicit ' A Stack implemented as a Collection 'Example: ' Sub testStack() ' Dim stack As New clsStack ' Dim n As Integer ' Dim r As Variant ' stack.Push 1 ' stack.Push "One" ' stack.Push 2 ' stack.Push "Two" ' For n = 1 To 5 ' r = stack.Pop ' If IsNull(r) Then ' Debug.Print "Stack empty" ' Else ' Debug.Print r ' End If ' Next n ' Set stack = Nothing ' End Sub Dim modCollection As Collection Private Sub Class_Initialize() Set modCollection = New Collection End Sub Private Sub Class_Terminate() Set modCollection = Nothing End Sub Sub Push(vItem As Variant) If modCollection.Count = 0 Then modCollection.Add vItem Else modCollection.Add vItem, , , modCollection.Count End If End Sub Function Pop() As Variant If modCollection.Count = 0 Then Pop = Null Else Pop = modCollection(modCollection.Count) modCollection.Remove modCollection.Count End If End Function Charlotte -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Dan Waters Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2008 9:15 AM To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' Subject: Re: [AccessD] Call Stack in VBA? Thanks Charlotte - I just checked the archives for clsStack, but no results came back. Do you have more information about what Lambert posted? Thanks, Dan -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Charlotte Foust Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2008 10:18 AM To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving Subject: Re: [AccessD] Call Stack in VBA? I don't know if you can get at the actual call stack, but you can use "push" methods to write a line to a collection, an xmlfile or even a straight text file and "pop" methods to remove the line after the call successfully executes. An error would result in the "pop" not being executed, giving you a list of steps that got you to the error. I used to do this years ago based on an article written for A97 (I think) that I adapted to my own uses. I created a CallStack class with push and pop methods, but it took a lot of work to pass the name of each routine into the stack since Access didn't give a simple method for retrieving the name of the procedure. I finally used a local constant, procName, in each routine and populated it when I built the routine. Actually, searching back through my archives, I find that Lambert posted a clsStack, which uses a collection, ages ago as well, so you might root through the archives for more. Charlotte Foust -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Arthur Fuller Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2008 7:47 AM To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving Subject: Re: [AccessD] Call Stack in VBA? What a great idea! I hope someone has your answer. You're right, it would be incredibly useful. On Thu, Jul 24, 2008 at 8:56 AM, Dan Waters wrote: > Is there a way to use VBA to record the call stack? In my error > trapping routine, this would be incredibly helpful. > > Thanks! > Dan > -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From DWUTKA at Marlow.com Thu Jul 24 12:27:40 2008 From: DWUTKA at Marlow.com (Drew Wutka) Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2008 12:27:40 -0500 Subject: [AccessD] Keyboard shortcuts (was: Access Requests) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: LOL. Drew -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gustav Brock Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2008 11:20 AM To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: Re: [AccessD] Keyboard shortcuts (was: Access Requests) Hi Drew Now listen to to that ... we deal with such tasks every day! /gustav >>> DWUTKA at marlow.com 24-07-2008 17:59 >>> Funny you mention that. Yesterday I had to setup a new 'exec' in our company, who is heading up our European sales force, and he'll be located in Germany. I had to get his laptop setup on our domain, and install our VPN software. It was Vista (yeck, and hardly use it at all...), it was in German (VERY rusty with that), and it had a different (assuming German) keyboard, letters and symbols all over.... I told my boss I deserved a raise for getting that done! ;) Drew -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gustav Brock Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2008 10:01 AM To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: Re: [AccessD] Keyboard shortcuts (was: Access Requests) Hi Drew Not on my localised keyboard. Here " is Shift+2 while ' is the key next to Enter. /gustav -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com The information contained in this transmission is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain II-VI Proprietary and/or II-VI Business Sensitive material. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender immediately and destroy the material in its entirety, whether electronic or hard copy. You are notified that any review, retransmission, copying, disclosure, dissemination, or other use of, or taking of any action in reliance upon this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient is prohibited. From dwaters at usinternet.com Thu Jul 24 13:00:25 2008 From: dwaters at usinternet.com (Dan Waters) Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2008 13:00:25 -0500 Subject: [AccessD] Call Stack in VBA? In-Reply-To: References: <29f585dd0807240747j7be6db46ve28060eed8165dae@mail.gmail.com><2653819ECE2A4CFBB820CF7A67C9B31E@danwaters> Message-ID: <1B81D88204DF4E7AA0D794CE55A1D859@danwaters> Great! I'll give this a try. Dan -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Charlotte Foust Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2008 11:44 AM To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving Subject: Re: [AccessD] Call Stack in VBA? I wonder if he posted it on the L list? Anyhow, here's the code: ' Code starts - save as a Class module named clsStack '################################### Option Compare Database Option Explicit ' A Stack implemented as a Collection 'Example: ' Sub testStack() ' Dim stack As New clsStack ' Dim n As Integer ' Dim r As Variant ' stack.Push 1 ' stack.Push "One" ' stack.Push 2 ' stack.Push "Two" ' For n = 1 To 5 ' r = stack.Pop ' If IsNull(r) Then ' Debug.Print "Stack empty" ' Else ' Debug.Print r ' End If ' Next n ' Set stack = Nothing ' End Sub Dim modCollection As Collection Private Sub Class_Initialize() Set modCollection = New Collection End Sub Private Sub Class_Terminate() Set modCollection = Nothing End Sub Sub Push(vItem As Variant) If modCollection.Count = 0 Then modCollection.Add vItem Else modCollection.Add vItem, , , modCollection.Count End If End Sub Function Pop() As Variant If modCollection.Count = 0 Then Pop = Null Else Pop = modCollection(modCollection.Count) modCollection.Remove modCollection.Count End If End Function Charlotte -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Dan Waters Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2008 9:15 AM To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' Subject: Re: [AccessD] Call Stack in VBA? Thanks Charlotte - I just checked the archives for clsStack, but no results came back. Do you have more information about what Lambert posted? Thanks, Dan -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Charlotte Foust Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2008 10:18 AM To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving Subject: Re: [AccessD] Call Stack in VBA? I don't know if you can get at the actual call stack, but you can use "push" methods to write a line to a collection, an xmlfile or even a straight text file and "pop" methods to remove the line after the call successfully executes. An error would result in the "pop" not being executed, giving you a list of steps that got you to the error. I used to do this years ago based on an article written for A97 (I think) that I adapted to my own uses. I created a CallStack class with push and pop methods, but it took a lot of work to pass the name of each routine into the stack since Access didn't give a simple method for retrieving the name of the procedure. I finally used a local constant, procName, in each routine and populated it when I built the routine. Actually, searching back through my archives, I find that Lambert posted a clsStack, which uses a collection, ages ago as well, so you might root through the archives for more. Charlotte Foust -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Arthur Fuller Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2008 7:47 AM To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving Subject: Re: [AccessD] Call Stack in VBA? What a great idea! I hope someone has your answer. You're right, it would be incredibly useful. On Thu, Jul 24, 2008 at 8:56 AM, Dan Waters wrote: > Is there a way to use VBA to record the call stack? In my error > trapping routine, this would be incredibly helpful. > > Thanks! > Dan > -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From Lambert.Heenan at AIG.com Thu Jul 24 13:09:18 2008 From: Lambert.Heenan at AIG.com (Heenan, Lambert) Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2008 14:09:18 -0400 Subject: [AccessD] Access Requests Message-ID: <34C8A2AB1EF3564CB0D64DB6AFFDD5C2176FDCAE@XLIVMBX35bkup.aig.com> Just thought of a couple of things that would be real nice: The ability to see a list of the bookmarks that have been set and all breakpoints set in a project. Using those lists we could just directly to the location that is of interest. At least right now we can walk through the list of bookmarks in sequence, but the only way to get to a breakpoint is to have the code execution reach it. Lambert From fuller.artful at gmail.com Thu Jul 24 13:10:25 2008 From: fuller.artful at gmail.com (Arthur Fuller) Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2008 15:10:25 -0300 Subject: [AccessD] Call Stack in VBA? In-Reply-To: <2653819ECE2A4CFBB820CF7A67C9B31E@danwaters> References: <29f585dd0807240747j7be6db46ve28060eed8165dae@mail.gmail.com> <2653819ECE2A4CFBB820CF7A67C9B31E@danwaters> Message-ID: <29f585dd0807241110n48039466m7f66509a66a65b91@mail.gmail.com> I don't know how fruitful this will be without access to the call stack. It's simple enough to write a stack class. A stack is a simple array plus two operations -- push and pop. But without access to the Access call stack, you'll have to insert some code into each procedure that pushes the proc name to the stack. That's a lot of work. Arthur On Thu, Jul 24, 2008 at 1:15 PM, Dan Waters wrote: > Thanks Charlotte - I just checked the archives for clsStack, but no results > came back. > > Do you have more information about what Lambert posted? > From fuller.artful at gmail.com Thu Jul 24 13:15:05 2008 From: fuller.artful at gmail.com (Arthur Fuller) Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2008 15:15:05 -0300 Subject: [AccessD] Access Requests In-Reply-To: <34C8A2AB1EF3564CB0D64DB6AFFDD5C2176FDCAE@XLIVMBX35bkup.aig.com> References: <34C8A2AB1EF3564CB0D64DB6AFFDD5C2176FDCAE@XLIVMBX35bkup.aig.com> Message-ID: <29f585dd0807241115g2df35430hb9a33977f89f5660@mail.gmail.com> And not that I want to rob Rick Fisher of any income, but you'd think that the standard built-in find-and-replace would have been upgraded to at least the level of his product F&R. Arthur On Thu, Jul 24, 2008 at 3:09 PM, Heenan, Lambert wrote: > Just thought of a couple of things that would be real nice: > > The ability to see a list of the bookmarks that have been set and all > breakpoints set in a project. Using those lists we could just directly to > the location that is of interest. At least right now we can walk through > the > list of bookmarks in sequence, but the only way to get to a breakpoint is > to > have the code execution reach it. > > Lambert > From dwaters at usinternet.com Thu Jul 24 14:48:18 2008 From: dwaters at usinternet.com (Dan Waters) Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2008 14:48:18 -0500 Subject: [AccessD] Call Stack in VBA? In-Reply-To: <29f585dd0807241110n48039466m7f66509a66a65b91@mail.gmail.com> References: <29f585dd0807240747j7be6db46ve28060eed8165dae@mail.gmail.com><2653819ECE2A4CFBB820CF7A67C9B31E@danwaters> <29f585dd0807241110n48039466m7f66509a66a65b91@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <364FE5385D9D44FB98C551B1A3074B80@danwaters> For hundreds of procedures, that would cost me a lot of time. But for troubleshooting, this could be priceless!! ;-) Dan -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Arthur Fuller Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2008 1:10 PM To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving Subject: Re: [AccessD] Call Stack in VBA? I don't know how fruitful this will be without access to the call stack. It's simple enough to write a stack class. A stack is a simple array plus two operations -- push and pop. But without access to the Access call stack, you'll have to insert some code into each procedure that pushes the proc name to the stack. That's a lot of work. Arthur On Thu, Jul 24, 2008 at 1:15 PM, Dan Waters wrote: > Thanks Charlotte - I just checked the archives for clsStack, but no results > came back. > > Do you have more information about what Lambert posted? > -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From Lambert.Heenan at AIG.com Thu Jul 24 15:59:33 2008 From: Lambert.Heenan at AIG.com (Heenan, Lambert) Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2008 16:59:33 -0400 Subject: [AccessD] Call Stack in VBA? Message-ID: <34C8A2AB1EF3564CB0D64DB6AFFDD5C217A7E961@XLIVMBX35bkup.aig.com> This was the code for clsStack. Nothing Earth shattering... Option Explicit ' A Stack implemented as a Collection Dim modCollection As Collection Private Sub Class_Initialize() Set modCollection = New Collection End Sub Private Sub Class_Terminate() Set modCollection = Nothing End Sub Sub Push(vItem As Variant) If modCollection.Count = 0 Then modCollection.Add vItem Else modCollection.Add vItem, , , modCollection.Count End If End Sub Function Pop() As Variant If modCollection.Count = 0 Then Pop = Null Else Pop = modCollection(modCollection.Count) modCollection.Remove modCollection.Count End If End Function Lambert -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Dan Waters Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2008 12:15 PM To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' Subject: Re: [AccessD] Call Stack in VBA? Thanks Charlotte - I just checked the archives for clsStack, but no results came back. Do you have more information about what Lambert posted? Thanks, Dan -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Charlotte Foust Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2008 10:18 AM To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving Subject: Re: [AccessD] Call Stack in VBA? I don't know if you can get at the actual call stack, but you can use "push" methods to write a line to a collection, an xmlfile or even a straight text file and "pop" methods to remove the line after the call successfully executes. An error would result in the "pop" not being executed, giving you a list of steps that got you to the error. I used to do this years ago based on an article written for A97 (I think) that I adapted to my own uses. I created a CallStack class with push and pop methods, but it took a lot of work to pass the name of each routine into the stack since Access didn't give a simple method for retrieving the name of the procedure. I finally used a local constant, procName, in each routine and populated it when I built the routine. Actually, searching back through my archives, I find that Lambert posted a clsStack, which uses a collection, ages ago as well, so you might root through the archives for more. Charlotte Foust -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Arthur Fuller Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2008 7:47 AM To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving Subject: Re: [AccessD] Call Stack in VBA? What a great idea! I hope someone has your answer. You're right, it would be incredibly useful. On Thu, Jul 24, 2008 at 8:56 AM, Dan Waters wrote: > Is there a way to use VBA to record the call stack? In my error > trapping routine, this would be incredibly helpful. > > Thanks! > Dan > -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From rosalyn.clarke at barclays.com Fri Jul 25 06:27:25 2008 From: rosalyn.clarke at barclays.com (rosalyn.clarke at barclays.com) Date: Fri, 25 Jul 2008 12:27:25 +0100 Subject: [AccessD] Programatically opening Word docs from Access In-Reply-To: <630FEC7064B32B4BB6FB52E822284CEF0E3CEA@CS-SERVER.classicslee.local> References: <48869E53.19F8AD5D@socal.rr.com> <630FEC7064B32B4BB6FB52E822284CEF0E3CEA@CS-SERVER.classicslee.local> Message-ID: Hi guys I'm (still) working on code to find and replace obsolete fonts in Word documents. I had this working last week but oddly, this week it is falling over. What's changed is I have a new laptop, but I can't see any differences. The code errors at the line Set doc = WordBasic.FileOpen(Name:=sFullPath, Password:=strPassword) ...with a '448 named argument not found' error. If you instantiate Word using Dim wrd as New Word.Application instead of the CreateObject method, it instantiates Word and opens the document, but does not associate the new document with the programmatically created Word instance. If you open the document using wrd.documents, it opens it read only and you can't make any changes (this is a bug). Apart from wondering if anyone has come across this behaviour before, I'm wondering if it's worth me porting all my code into Word instead of running it from Access. The full procedure is below. TIA for any help... Roz Public Sub ProcessDoc2(sPath As String, sName As String, intID As Integer) On Error GoTo errProcessDoc2 'auto-update document / template Dim wrd As Object Dim doc As Word.Document Dim sFullPath As String Dim iFonts As Integer Dim sFontName As String Dim J As Integer Dim X As Long, Y As Long Dim bFoundFont As Boolean Dim sFontList(99) As String Dim strPassword As String Dim cmd As New ADODB.Command Dim strSQL As String Dim sProtection As String Dim sNewFont As String 'open the document with password info, whatevs strPassword = "footba11" sFullPath = sPath & sName Debug.Print sFullPath Set wrd = CreateObject("Word.Application") Set doc = WordBasic.FileOpen(Name:=sFullPath, Password:=strPassword) If doc.ProtectionType <> wdNoProtection Then sProtection = doc.ProtectionType doc.Unprotect Password:=strPassword End If wrd.Visible = True iFonts = 0 X = doc.Characters.Count Y = 0 sNewFont = "Expert Sans Regular" 'start grabbing selections of contiguous fonts and updating Do Until Y >= X wrd.Selection.SelectCurrentFont sFontName = wrd.Selection.Font.Name For J = 1 To iFonts If sFontList(J) = sFontName Then bFoundFont = True Next J If Not bFoundFont Then iFonts = iFonts + 1 sFontList(iFonts) = sFontName End If 'update to new font if font is obsolete Select Case sFontName Case Is = "Barclays", "Barclays Serif", "Expert Serif Regular" UpdateProperty intID, "Font", sFontList(J), sNewFont, "Font discontinued" wrd.Selection.Font.Name = sNewFont Case Else UpdateProperty intID, "Font", sFontList(J), "n/a", "No change - check only" End Select Y = wrd.Selection.End wrd.Selection.Start = Y + 1 Loop 'reapply protection If IsNull(sProtection) = False Then doc.Protect sProtection, Password:=strPassword End If exitProcessDoc2: doc.Close True 'save document on Close wrd.Quit Exit Sub errProcessDoc2: MsgBox Err.Number & " " & Err.Description doc.Close wrd.Quit Exit Sub This e-mail and any attachments are confidential and intended solely for the addressee and may also be privileged or exempt from disclosure under applicable law. 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Barclays Bank PLC is authorised and regulated by the Financial Services Authority. From Gustav at cactus.dk Fri Jul 25 07:01:36 2008 From: Gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock) Date: Fri, 25 Jul 2008 14:01:36 +0200 Subject: [AccessD] Programatically opening Word docs from Access Message-ID: Hi Roz WordBasic? Isn't that obsolete? Since Word 97 ... /gustav >>> rosalyn.clarke at barclays.com 25-07-2008 13:27 >>> The code errors at the line Set doc = WordBasic.FileOpen(Name:=sFullPath, Password:=strPassword) From rosalyn.clarke at barclays.com Fri Jul 25 07:08:00 2008 From: rosalyn.clarke at barclays.com (rosalyn.clarke at barclays.com) Date: Fri, 25 Jul 2008 13:08:00 +0100 Subject: [AccessD] Programatically opening Word docs from Access In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: The WordBasic command is there because of the bug that causes recommended read-only documents to open read-only if you open them the usual way, even if you set readonly = false in the opening parameters. The WordBasic method is the approved workaround. -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gustav Brock Sent: 25 July 2008 13:02 To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: Re: [AccessD] Programatically opening Word docs from Access Hi Roz WordBasic? Isn't that obsolete? Since Word 97 ... /gustav >>> rosalyn.clarke at barclays.com 25-07-2008 13:27 >>> The code errors at the line Set doc = WordBasic.FileOpen(Name:=sFullPath, Password:=strPassword) -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com This e-mail and any attachments are confidential and intended solely for the addressee and may also be privileged or exempt from disclosure under applicable law. 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Barclays Bank PLC is authorised and regulated by the Financial Services Authority. From JHewson at nciinc.com Fri Jul 25 07:39:35 2008 From: JHewson at nciinc.com (Hewson, Jim ) Date: Fri, 25 Jul 2008 07:39:35 -0500 Subject: [AccessD] Programatically opening Word docs from Access In-Reply-To: References: <48869E53.19F8AD5D@socal.rr.com><630FEC7064B32B4BB6FB52E822284CEF0E3CEA@CS-SERVER.classicslee.local> Message-ID: <7E02B06E41E5404589EDDDA2BAA1C5A82C8E87@sanex101.nciinc.com> When working with Excel through Access, I need to explicitly reference Excel or use With - End With. Is there a reason you don't use that syntax? Jim jhewson at nciinc.com -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of rosalyn.clarke at barclays.com Sent: Friday, July 25, 2008 6:27 AM To: word at dcomp.com; accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: [AccessD] Programatically opening Word docs from Access Hi guys I'm (still) working on code to find and replace obsolete fonts in Word documents. I had this working last week but oddly, this week it is falling over. What's changed is I have a new laptop, but I can't see any differences. The code errors at the line Set doc = WordBasic.FileOpen(Name:=sFullPath, Password:=strPassword) ...with a '448 named argument not found' error. If you instantiate Word using Dim wrd as New Word.Application instead of the CreateObject method, it instantiates Word and opens the document, but does not associate the new document with the programmatically created Word instance. If you open the document using wrd.documents, it opens it read only and you can't make any changes (this is a bug). Apart from wondering if anyone has come across this behaviour before, I'm wondering if it's worth me porting all my code into Word instead of running it from Access. The full procedure is below. TIA for any help... Roz Public Sub ProcessDoc2(sPath As String, sName As String, intID As Integer) On Error GoTo errProcessDoc2 'auto-update document / template Dim wrd As Object Dim doc As Word.Document Dim sFullPath As String Dim iFonts As Integer Dim sFontName As String Dim J As Integer Dim X As Long, Y As Long Dim bFoundFont As Boolean Dim sFontList(99) As String Dim strPassword As String Dim cmd As New ADODB.Command Dim strSQL As String Dim sProtection As String Dim sNewFont As String 'open the document with password info, whatevs strPassword = "footba11" sFullPath = sPath & sName Debug.Print sFullPath Set wrd = CreateObject("Word.Application") Set doc = WordBasic.FileOpen(Name:=sFullPath, Password:=strPassword) If doc.ProtectionType <> wdNoProtection Then sProtection = doc.ProtectionType doc.Unprotect Password:=strPassword End If wrd.Visible = True iFonts = 0 X = doc.Characters.Count Y = 0 sNewFont = "Expert Sans Regular" 'start grabbing selections of contiguous fonts and updating Do Until Y >= X wrd.Selection.SelectCurrentFont sFontName = wrd.Selection.Font.Name For J = 1 To iFonts If sFontList(J) = sFontName Then bFoundFont = True Next J If Not bFoundFont Then iFonts = iFonts + 1 sFontList(iFonts) = sFontName End If 'update to new font if font is obsolete Select Case sFontName Case Is = "Barclays", "Barclays Serif", "Expert Serif Regular" UpdateProperty intID, "Font", sFontList(J), sNewFont, "Font discontinued" wrd.Selection.Font.Name = sNewFont Case Else UpdateProperty intID, "Font", sFontList(J), "n/a", "No change - check only" End Select Y = wrd.Selection.End wrd.Selection.Start = Y + 1 Loop 'reapply protection If IsNull(sProtection) = False Then doc.Protect sProtection, Password:=strPassword End If exitProcessDoc2: doc.Close True 'save document on Close wrd.Quit Exit Sub errProcessDoc2: MsgBox Err.Number & " " & Err.Description doc.Close wrd.Quit Exit Sub This e-mail and any attachments are confidential and intended solely for the addressee and may also be privileged or exempt from disclosure under applicable law. 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If you have received this message in error, please contact the sender immediately and be aware that the use, copying or dissemination of this information is prohibited. ################################################################################ From rosalyn.clarke at barclays.com Fri Jul 25 07:52:25 2008 From: rosalyn.clarke at barclays.com (rosalyn.clarke at barclays.com) Date: Fri, 25 Jul 2008 13:52:25 +0100 Subject: [AccessD] Programatically opening Word docs from Access In-Reply-To: <7E02B06E41E5404589EDDDA2BAA1C5A82C8E87@sanex101.nciinc.com> References: <48869E53.19F8AD5D@socal.rr.com><630FEC7064B32B4BB6FB52E822284CEF0E3CEA@CS-SERVER.classicslee.local> <7E02B06E41E5404589EDDDA2BAA1C5A82C8E87@sanex101.nciinc.com> Message-ID: Hi The only time I'm working with the word application object is to get at the Selection property, which belongs to the application rather than the document. Because I've defined the document as an object (or would have if this was working), and I'm not referencing it through the application, I don't *think* I need to reference Word when working with the document. I have the Word object model referenced in my Access database... It's been a while since I did much coding so I can't remember if there are differences in the way you have to handle Word v. Excel. I'm using 2003 by the way. I just wish I knew why it worked on my old laptop and not this one! It not only worked, it was very fast and I was feeling very pleased with myself, for a little while! Roz -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Hewson, Jim Sent: 25 July 2008 13:40 To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving Subject: Re: [AccessD] Programatically opening Word docs from Access When working with Excel through Access, I need to explicitly reference Excel or use With - End With. Is there a reason you don't use that syntax? Jim jhewson at nciinc.com -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of rosalyn.clarke at barclays.com Sent: Friday, July 25, 2008 6:27 AM To: word at dcomp.com; accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: [AccessD] Programatically opening Word docs from Access Hi guys I'm (still) working on code to find and replace obsolete fonts in Word documents. I had this working last week but oddly, this week it is falling over. What's changed is I have a new laptop, but I can't see any differences. The code errors at the line Set doc = WordBasic.FileOpen(Name:=sFullPath, Password:=strPassword) ...with a '448 named argument not found' error. If you instantiate Word using Dim wrd as New Word.Application instead of the CreateObject method, it instantiates Word and opens the document, but does not associate the new document with the programmatically created Word instance. If you open the document using wrd.documents, it opens it read only and you can't make any changes (this is a bug). Apart from wondering if anyone has come across this behaviour before, I'm wondering if it's worth me porting all my code into Word instead of running it from Access. The full procedure is below. TIA for any help... Roz Public Sub ProcessDoc2(sPath As String, sName As String, intID As Integer) On Error GoTo errProcessDoc2 'auto-update document / template Dim wrd As Object Dim doc As Word.Document Dim sFullPath As String Dim iFonts As Integer Dim sFontName As String Dim J As Integer Dim X As Long, Y As Long Dim bFoundFont As Boolean Dim sFontList(99) As String Dim strPassword As String Dim cmd As New ADODB.Command Dim strSQL As String Dim sProtection As String Dim sNewFont As String 'open the document with password info, whatevs strPassword = "footba11" sFullPath = sPath & sName Debug.Print sFullPath Set wrd = CreateObject("Word.Application") Set doc = WordBasic.FileOpen(Name:=sFullPath, Password:=strPassword) If doc.ProtectionType <> wdNoProtection Then sProtection = doc.ProtectionType doc.Unprotect Password:=strPassword End If wrd.Visible = True iFonts = 0 X = doc.Characters.Count Y = 0 sNewFont = "Expert Sans Regular" 'start grabbing selections of contiguous fonts and updating Do Until Y >= X wrd.Selection.SelectCurrentFont sFontName = wrd.Selection.Font.Name For J = 1 To iFonts If sFontList(J) = sFontName Then bFoundFont = True Next J If Not bFoundFont Then iFonts = iFonts + 1 sFontList(iFonts) = sFontName End If 'update to new font if font is obsolete Select Case sFontName Case Is = "Barclays", "Barclays Serif", "Expert Serif Regular" UpdateProperty intID, "Font", sFontList(J), sNewFont, "Font discontinued" wrd.Selection.Font.Name = sNewFont Case Else UpdateProperty intID, "Font", sFontList(J), "n/a", "No change - check only" End Select Y = wrd.Selection.End wrd.Selection.Start = Y + 1 Loop 'reapply protection If IsNull(sProtection) = False Then doc.Protect sProtection, Password:=strPassword End If exitProcessDoc2: doc.Close True 'save document on Close wrd.Quit Exit Sub errProcessDoc2: MsgBox Err.Number & " " & Err.Description doc.Close wrd.Quit Exit Sub This e-mail and any attachments are confidential and intended solely for the addressee and may also be privileged or exempt from disclosure under applicable law. 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From fuller.artful at gmail.com Fri Jul 25 08:22:57 2008 From: fuller.artful at gmail.com (Arthur Fuller) Date: Fri, 25 Jul 2008 10:22:57 -0300 Subject: [AccessD] Cross-version problems Message-ID: <29f585dd0807250622k5d6d3374sb26b7636fad12293@mail.gmail.com> I am finishing up an Access app and we are almost there. But a problem has arisen late in the game. I have buttons to invoke Filter-By-Form and Remove Filter. I'm working in Access 2007, the only version I have on my notebook. The client is working in Access 2003. My Remove Filter code calls DoCmd.RunCommand acRemoveAllFilters. Apparently this command is unrecognized in Access 2003. Does anyone know what I could substitute for it, that Access 2003 will recognize? TIA, Arthur From JHewson at nciinc.com Fri Jul 25 08:36:29 2008 From: JHewson at nciinc.com (Hewson, Jim ) Date: Fri, 25 Jul 2008 08:36:29 -0500 Subject: [AccessD] Cross-version problems In-Reply-To: <29f585dd0807250622k5d6d3374sb26b7636fad12293@mail.gmail.com> References: <29f585dd0807250622k5d6d3374sb26b7636fad12293@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <7E02B06E41E5404589EDDDA2BAA1C5A82C8E90@sanex101.nciinc.com> I ran across this issue but in reverse. I am coding in 2003 and use A2007 runtime for testing and it's on my client's machine. None of the filter commands I use in 2003 would work. It seems they are just ignored. The command in 2003 that I used was: DoCmd.ShowAllRecords HTH Jim jhewson at nciinc.com -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Arthur Fuller Sent: Friday, July 25, 2008 8:23 AM To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving Subject: [AccessD] Cross-version problems I am finishing up an Access app and we are almost there. But a problem has arisen late in the game. I have buttons to invoke Filter-By-Form and Remove Filter. I'm working in Access 2007, the only version I have on my notebook. The client is working in Access 2003. My Remove Filter code calls DoCmd.RunCommand acRemoveAllFilters. Apparently this command is unrecognized in Access 2003. Does anyone know what I could substitute for it, that Access 2003 will recognize? 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If you have received this message in error, please contact the sender immediately and be aware that the use, copying or dissemination of this information is prohibited. ################################################################################ From fuller.artful at gmail.com Fri Jul 25 09:07:13 2008 From: fuller.artful at gmail.com (Arthur Fuller) Date: Fri, 25 Jul 2008 11:07:13 -0300 Subject: [AccessD] Cross-version problems In-Reply-To: <7E02B06E41E5404589EDDDA2BAA1C5A82C8E90@sanex101.nciinc.com> References: <29f585dd0807250622k5d6d3374sb26b7636fad12293@mail.gmail.com> <7E02B06E41E5404589EDDDA2BAA1C5A82C8E90@sanex101.nciinc.com> Message-ID: <29f585dd0807250707k2aa71f7fj943ec71381305c7a@mail.gmail.com> I'll give that a try. Thanks! A. On Fri, Jul 25, 2008 at 10:36 AM, Hewson, Jim wrote: > I ran across this issue but in reverse. I am coding in 2003 and use A2007 > runtime for testing and it's on my client's machine. > None of the filter commands I use in 2003 would work. It seems they are > just ignored. > The command in 2003 that I used was: DoCmd.ShowAllRecords > HTH > > Jim > jhewson at nciinc.com > From rockysmolin at bchacc.com Fri Jul 25 09:25:28 2008 From: rockysmolin at bchacc.com (Rocky Smolin at Beach Access Software) Date: Fri, 25 Jul 2008 07:25:28 -0700 Subject: [AccessD] Semi-OT Friday - Hollywood scriptwriters couldn't have done better Message-ID: <00c901c8ee62$49aa1c70$0301a8c0@HAL9005> http://www.signonsandiego.com/uniontrib/20080725/news_1n25revenge.html Ironically, this guy will probably make more money from the movie rights and consulting than his salary - when he gets out of jail. Rocky From rosalyn.clarke at barclays.com Fri Jul 25 10:13:09 2008 From: rosalyn.clarke at barclays.com (rosalyn.clarke at barclays.com) Date: Fri, 25 Jul 2008 16:13:09 +0100 Subject: [AccessD] [Word] Programatically opening Word docs from Access In-Reply-To: <156dc6dc0807250755r2df3d2a0m345dbe5531135257@mail.gmail.com> References: <48869E53.19F8AD5D@socal.rr.com><630FEC7064B32B4BB6FB52E822284CEF0E3CEA@CS-SERVER.classicslee.local> <156dc6dc0807250755r2df3d2a0m345dbe5531135257@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Fantastic! That works perfectly. Many many thanks Roz ________________________________ From: word-bounces at dcomp.com [mailto:word-bounces at dcomp.com] On Behalf Of Pieter Janssens Sent: 25 July 2008 15:55 To: DailyWordTips Subject: Re: [Word] Programatically opening Word docs from Access hi Rosalyn, this little piece of code might help: Dim wrdapp As Word.Application Dim wrddoc As Word.Document Set wrdapp = CreateObject("word.application") wrdapp.WordBasic.fileopen Name:=sFullPath, passworddoc:=strPassword Set wrddoc = wrdapp.ActiveDocument Debug.Print wrddoc.Name, wrddoc.ReadOnly wrdapp.Quit Set wrdapp = Nothing note the named parameter is passworddoc, not password. in my test from excel 2002 i could not get excel to assign the wrddoc object directly from the fileopen statement however, an extra step was needed using the activedocument reference. greetings, pieter. 2008/7/25 : Hi guys I'm (still) working on code to find and replace obsolete fonts in Word documents. I had this working last week but oddly, this week it is falling over. What's changed is I have a new laptop, but I can't see any differences. The code errors at the line Set doc = WordBasic.FileOpen(Name:=sFullPath, Password:=strPassword) ...with a '448 named argument not found' error. If you instantiate Word using Dim wrd as New Word.Application instead of the CreateObject method, it instantiates Word and opens the document, but does not associate the new document with the programmatically created Word instance. If you open the document using wrd.documents, it opens it read only and you can't make any changes (this is a bug). Apart from wondering if anyone has come across this behaviour before, I'm wondering if it's worth me porting all my code into Word instead of running it from Access. The full procedure is below. TIA for any help... Roz Public Sub ProcessDoc2(sPath As String, sName As String, intID As Integer) On Error GoTo errProcessDoc2 'auto-update document / template Dim wrd As Object Dim doc As Word.Document Dim sFullPath As String Dim iFonts As Integer Dim sFontName As String Dim J As Integer Dim X As Long, Y As Long Dim bFoundFont As Boolean Dim sFontList(99) As String Dim strPassword As String Dim cmd As New ADODB.Command Dim strSQL As String Dim sProtection As String Dim sNewFont As String 'open the document with password info, whatevs strPassword = "footba11" sFullPath = sPath & sName Debug.Print sFullPath Set wrd = CreateObject("Word.Application") Set doc = WordBasic.FileOpen(Name:=sFullPath, Password:=strPassword) If doc.ProtectionType <> wdNoProtection Then sProtection = doc.ProtectionType doc.Unprotect Password:=strPassword End If wrd.Visible = True iFonts = 0 X = doc.Characters.Count Y = 0 sNewFont = "Expert Sans Regular" 'start grabbing selections of contiguous fonts and updating Do Until Y >= X wrd.Selection.SelectCurrentFont sFontName = wrd.Selection.Font.Name For J = 1 To iFonts If sFontList(J) = sFontName Then bFoundFont = True Next J If Not bFoundFont Then iFonts = iFonts + 1 sFontList(iFonts) = sFontName End If 'update to new font if font is obsolete Select Case sFontName Case Is = "Barclays", "Barclays Serif", "Expert Serif Regular" UpdateProperty intID, "Font", sFontList(J), sNewFont, "Font discontinued" wrd.Selection.Font.Name = sNewFont Case Else UpdateProperty intID, "Font", sFontList(J), "n/a", "No change - check only" End Select Y = wrd.Selection.End wrd.Selection.Start = Y + 1 Loop 'reapply protection If IsNull(sProtection) = False Then doc.Protect sProtection, Password:=strPassword End If exitProcessDoc2: doc.Close True 'save document on Close wrd.Quit Exit Sub errProcessDoc2: MsgBox Err.Number & " " & Err.Description doc.Close wrd.Quit Exit Sub This e-mail and any attachments are confidential and intended solely for the addressee and may also be privileged or exempt from disclosure under applicable law. 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Barclays Bank PLC is authorised and regulated by the Financial Services Authority. _______________________________________________ Word mailing list Word at dcomp.com http://lists.dcomp.com/mailman/listinfo/word This e-mail and any attachments are confidential and intended solely for the addressee and may also be privileged or exempt from disclosure under applicable law. If you are not the addressee, or have received this e-mail in error, please notify the sender immediately, delete it from your system and do not copy, disclose or otherwise act upon any part of this e-mail or its attachments. Internet communications are not guaranteed to be secure or virus-free. The Barclays Group does not accept responsibility for any loss arising from unauthorised access to, or interference with, any Internet communications by any third party, or from the transmission of any viruses. Replies to this e-mail may be monitored by the Barclays Group for operational or business reasons. Any opinion or other information in this e-mail or its attachments that does not relate to the business of the Barclays Group is personal to the sender and is not given or endorsed by the Barclays Group. Barclays Bank PLC.Registered in England and Wales (registered no. 1026167). Registered Office: 1 Churchill Place, London, E14 5HP, United Kingdom. Barclays Bank PLC is authorised and regulated by the Financial Services Authority. From Lambert.Heenan at AIG.com Fri Jul 25 10:35:22 2008 From: Lambert.Heenan at AIG.com (Heenan, Lambert) Date: Fri, 25 Jul 2008 10:35:22 -0500 Subject: [AccessD] Semi-OT Friday - Hollywood scriptwriters couldn't h ave done better Message-ID: <34C8A2AB1EF3564CB0D64DB6AFFDD5C217A7EAB3@XLIVMBX35bkup.aig.com> "Childs was upset no one had told him of the audit and he used his cell phone to photograph Pieralde. Frightened, she locked herself in an office and later reported the incident to police. " I guess that as supposedly intelligent members of the public now get scared enough to lock themselves away in the face of a cell phone camera that we can expect a rash of police officers killing people using similarly dangerous equipment in the street. You know, just like Diallo was killed for displaying his wallet a few years ago in NYC. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amadou_Diallo Lambert -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Rocky Smolin at Beach Access Software Sent: Friday, July 25, 2008 10:25 AM To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'; 'Off Topic' Subject: [AccessD] Semi-OT Friday - Hollywood scriptwriters couldn't have done better http://www.signonsandiego.com/uniontrib/20080725/news_1n25revenge.html Ironically, this guy will probably make more money from the movie rights and consulting than his salary - when he gets out of jail. Rocky -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From jengross at gte.net Fri Jul 25 13:34:29 2008 From: jengross at gte.net (Jennifer Gross) Date: Fri, 25 Jul 2008 10:34:29 -0800 Subject: [AccessD] Keyboard shortcuts (was: Access Requests) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <0K4K003KROZTN1SK@vms173003.mailsrvcs.net> It's funny you mention Ctl+; because I learned that from a client just the other day. The others are all new to me, except Ctl+' which I use. Jennifer -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gustav Brock Sent: Wednesday, July 23, 2008 11:32 PM To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: Re: [AccessD] Keyboard shortcuts (was: Access Requests) Hi Jennifer Other specials are: Ctrl+; -> current date Ctrl+: -> current time Ctrl++ (Ctrl + plussign) -> Finish typing and move to next record /gustav -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From shamil at smsconsulting.spb.ru Fri Jul 25 12:40:22 2008 From: shamil at smsconsulting.spb.ru (Shamil Salakhetdinov) Date: Fri, 25 Jul 2008 21:40:22 +0400 Subject: [AccessD] Call Stack in VBA? In-Reply-To: <364FE5385D9D44FB98C551B1A3074B80@danwaters> Message-ID: <1ded01c8ee7d$8436b680$6401a8c0@nant> Hi All, In fact I have got developed almost 10 years ago such a callstack tracing/profiling simulation code together with a utility code to inject/remove tracing/profiling code in all and every function/sub of an MS Access or VB6 project (FYI: this tracing/profiling code DOES put in the call stack the parameters values/refs )... I did use it several times to find not easy to capture bugs but that's it... And I wonder is there a real need in such a tool for everyday VBA/VB6 development? Probably not, otherwise MS or some third-party company would develop such a tool for sure - MS-Tools doesn't have such a tool? I mean will it be worth to find this code still I hope "buried" (i.e. not yet annihilated) somewhere in my archives and make an add-in, which will be useful and used at least one time but to solve important real life development task by at least 100 (one hundred) developers from all the world community of MS Access developers? I mean I have no any plans to make such an add-in a commercial product because I do not believe in its commercial success but I can try to make it wrapped-out into a useful freeware add-in, and to do that I'd need to spend some of my time and if such an add-in is not needed to at least 100 developers then it's probably not worth to spend time on making it wrapped into an add-in and published... What is your opinion? Thank you. -- Shamil -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Dan Waters Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2008 11:48 PM To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' Subject: Re: [AccessD] Call Stack in VBA? For hundreds of procedures, that would cost me a lot of time. But for troubleshooting, this could be priceless!! ;-) Dan -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Arthur Fuller Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2008 1:10 PM To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving Subject: Re: [AccessD] Call Stack in VBA? I don't know how fruitful this will be without access to the call stack. It's simple enough to write a stack class. A stack is a simple array plus two operations -- push and pop. But without access to the Access call stack, you'll have to insert some code into each procedure that pushes the proc name to the stack. That's a lot of work. Arthur On Thu, Jul 24, 2008 at 1:15 PM, Dan Waters wrote: > Thanks Charlotte - I just checked the archives for clsStack, but no results > came back. > > Do you have more information about what Lambert posted? > -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From wdhindman at dejpolsystems.com Fri Jul 25 12:56:00 2008 From: wdhindman at dejpolsystems.com (William Hindman) Date: Fri, 25 Jul 2008 13:56:00 -0400 Subject: [AccessD] Semi-OT Friday - Hollywood scriptwriters couldn'th ave done better References: <34C8A2AB1EF3564CB0D64DB6AFFDD5C217A7EAB3@XLIVMBX35bkup.aig.com> Message-ID: <84C2DB020E80448385AD8A9914DC376B@jislaptopdev> ...sigh ...moderators anyone? William -------------------------------------------------- From: "Heenan, Lambert" Sent: Friday, July 25, 2008 11:35 AM To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'" ; "'Off Topic'" Subject: Re: [AccessD] Semi-OT Friday - Hollywood scriptwriters couldn'thavedone better > "Childs was upset no one had told him of the audit and he used his cell > phone to photograph Pieralde. Frightened, she locked herself in an office > and later reported the incident to police. " > > I guess that as supposedly intelligent members of the public now get > scared > enough to lock themselves away in the face of a cell phone camera that we > can expect a rash of police officers killing people using similarly > dangerous equipment in the street. > > You know, just like Diallo was killed for displaying his wallet a few > years > ago in NYC. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amadou_Diallo > > Lambert > > > -----Original Message----- > From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Rocky Smolin at > Beach Access Software > Sent: Friday, July 25, 2008 10:25 AM > To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'; 'Off Topic' > Subject: [AccessD] Semi-OT Friday - Hollywood scriptwriters couldn't have > done better > > http://www.signonsandiego.com/uniontrib/20080725/news_1n25revenge.html > > > Ironically, this guy will probably make more money from the movie rights > and > consulting than his salary - when he gets out of jail. > > Rocky > > -- > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > -- > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From rockysmolin at bchacc.com Fri Jul 25 13:01:27 2008 From: rockysmolin at bchacc.com (Rocky Smolin at Beach Access Software) Date: Fri, 25 Jul 2008 11:01:27 -0700 Subject: [AccessD] Exporting To Excel Message-ID: <00f501c8ee80$7601e780$0301a8c0@HAL9005> Dear List: I have a client using 2007 who just came across a restriction on exporting data to Excel. IIRC, it was an anti-trust litigation thing. Briefly, what can't you do in 2007 regarding automation with Excel? Is TrassferSpreadSheet still working? Can you save the results of a query to Excel? MTIA, Rocky Smolin Beach Access Software 858-259-4334 www.e-z-mrp.com www.bchacc.com From JHewson at nciinc.com Fri Jul 25 13:29:29 2008 From: JHewson at nciinc.com (Hewson, Jim ) Date: Fri, 25 Jul 2008 13:29:29 -0500 Subject: [AccessD] Exporting To Excel In-Reply-To: <00f501c8ee80$7601e780$0301a8c0@HAL9005> References: <00f501c8ee80$7601e780$0301a8c0@HAL9005> Message-ID: <7E02B06E41E5404589EDDDA2BAA1C5A82C8EBE@sanex101.nciinc.com> Yes TransferSpreadsheet still works. Is issue is that you'll need to shell out to close Excel after closing Access. Jim jhewson at nciinc.com -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Rocky Smolin at Beach Access Software Sent: Friday, July 25, 2008 1:01 PM To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' Subject: [AccessD] Exporting To Excel Dear List: I have a client using 2007 who just came across a restriction on exporting data to Excel. IIRC, it was an anti-trust litigation thing. Briefly, what can't you do in 2007 regarding automation with Excel? Is TrassferSpreadSheet still working? Can you save the results of a query to Excel? MTIA, Rocky Smolin Beach Access Software 858-259-4334 www.e-z-mrp.com www.bchacc.com -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com ################################################################################ This email transmission contains information from NCI Information Systems, Inc. that may be considered privileged or confidential and is intended solely for the named recipient. If you have received this message in error, please contact the sender immediately and be aware that the use, copying or dissemination of this information is prohibited. ################################################################################ From tinanfields at torchlake.com Fri Jul 25 13:37:51 2008 From: tinanfields at torchlake.com (Tina Norris Fields) Date: Fri, 25 Jul 2008 14:37:51 -0400 Subject: [AccessD] Positioning a form with MoveSize command Message-ID: <488A1D7F.3020107@torchlake.com> Hi all, I have a set of forms that I want to have always open at a certain position. I've put this code into the On Activate event for each form: - - - DoCmd.MoveSize 6000, 1200 - - - This set of forms simulates the Access Switchboard. The Main Menu form has buttons for opening the Member Information Menu form and the Contribution Information Menu, etc. The Member Information Menu form has a set of buttons, one of which recalls the Main Menu form (and closes the Member Information Menu form). If I use the Main Menu button on the Member Information Menu, the Main Menu opens and is correctly positioned at 6000 twps from the left and 1200 twps from the top. And navigating among the three menu forms is working fine - each form, when opened by the On Click event of the appropriate button, opens at the correct location. However, if I open any one of these forms by double-clicking its icon in the Forms container, the form is located a little bit higher than the 1200 twps - I don't know the exact number, but it is clearly higher than it should be. If I start with the Main Menu form and click the button to open the Member Information Menu, that form opens in the correct position, slightly lower than the Main Menu. If I then click the Main Menu button on the Member Information Menu, the Main Menu moves to the correct position and the Member Information Menu closes. I've tried the DoCmd.MoveSize 6000, 1200 in the On Open, On Load, On Resize, On Current, and On Activate events, and I've been unable to get the forms (any one of them - they all do this thing) to open at the correct position when launched via double-click on their icon in the forms container. What am I doing wrong? Thanks for any guidance, Tina From dwaters at usinternet.com Fri Jul 25 13:38:51 2008 From: dwaters at usinternet.com (Dan Waters) Date: Fri, 25 Jul 2008 13:38:51 -0500 Subject: [AccessD] Call Stack in VBA? In-Reply-To: <1ded01c8ee7d$8436b680$6401a8c0@nant> References: <364FE5385D9D44FB98C551B1A3074B80@danwaters> <1ded01c8ee7d$8436b680$6401a8c0@nant> Message-ID: <62000C0B02AA4A228441932CE8ED0A5A@danwaters> Hi Shamir! I was wondering if this particular thread might capture your attention! This would be quite valuable to me. I have several customers who use my system. Part of the system, a library file, is identical at each customer. Almost all procedures contain error-trapping, which usually gives me enough information to solve a problem. But occasionally, an error has gone through several procedures before it gets error trapped, and the information I can capture just isn't enough. Of course in a situation like this, I often can't duplicate the problem. In this situation I have to start guessing, and rewriting code to start passing information from procedure to procedure, which is time consuming and often not successful anyway. If you have raw code, I would be willing to try to use that. As for 100 developers world wide who would want this, I'm sure they exist. Two of them are here - me and Arthur! But for the rest, there would need to be a way to advertise it's existence. Does anyone know of a good place to advertise or look for good Access utilities and add-in's? Thanks! Dan -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Shamil Salakhetdinov Sent: Friday, July 25, 2008 12:40 PM To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' Subject: Re: [AccessD] Call Stack in VBA? Hi All, In fact I have got developed almost 10 years ago such a callstack tracing/profiling simulation code together with a utility code to inject/remove tracing/profiling code in all and every function/sub of an MS Access or VB6 project (FYI: this tracing/profiling code DOES put in the call stack the parameters values/refs )... I did use it several times to find not easy to capture bugs but that's it... And I wonder is there a real need in such a tool for everyday VBA/VB6 development? Probably not, otherwise MS or some third-party company would develop such a tool for sure - MS-Tools doesn't have such a tool? I mean will it be worth to find this code still I hope "buried" (i.e. not yet annihilated) somewhere in my archives and make an add-in, which will be useful and used at least one time but to solve important real life development task by at least 100 (one hundred) developers from all the world community of MS Access developers? I mean I have no any plans to make such an add-in a commercial product because I do not believe in its commercial success but I can try to make it wrapped-out into a useful freeware add-in, and to do that I'd need to spend some of my time and if such an add-in is not needed to at least 100 developers then it's probably not worth to spend time on making it wrapped into an add-in and published... What is your opinion? Thank you. -- Shamil -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Dan Waters Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2008 11:48 PM To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' Subject: Re: [AccessD] Call Stack in VBA? For hundreds of procedures, that would cost me a lot of time. But for troubleshooting, this could be priceless!! ;-) Dan -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Arthur Fuller Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2008 1:10 PM To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving Subject: Re: [AccessD] Call Stack in VBA? I don't know how fruitful this will be without access to the call stack. It's simple enough to write a stack class. A stack is a simple array plus two operations -- push and pop. But without access to the Access call stack, you'll have to insert some code into each procedure that pushes the proc name to the stack. That's a lot of work. Arthur On Thu, Jul 24, 2008 at 1:15 PM, Dan Waters wrote: > Thanks Charlotte - I just checked the archives for clsStack, but no results > came back. > > Do you have more information about what Lambert posted? > -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From fuller.artful at gmail.com Fri Jul 25 14:52:09 2008 From: fuller.artful at gmail.com (Arthur Fuller) Date: Fri, 25 Jul 2008 16:52:09 -0300 Subject: [AccessD] Call Stack in VBA? In-Reply-To: <62000C0B02AA4A228441932CE8ED0A5A@danwaters> References: <364FE5385D9D44FB98C551B1A3074B80@danwaters> <1ded01c8ee7d$8436b680$6401a8c0@nant> <62000C0B02AA4A228441932CE8ED0A5A@danwaters> Message-ID: <29f585dd0807251252w232c2d60v43fc76ec6c696330@mail.gmail.com> I second that. Arthur On Fri, Jul 25, 2008 at 3:38 PM, Dan Waters wrote: > As for 100 developers world wide who would want this, I'm sure they exist. > Two of them are here - me and Arthur! But for the rest, there would need > to > be a way to advertise it's existence. > > Does anyone know of a good place to advertise or look for good Access > utilities and add-in's? > > Thanks! > Dan > From Gustav at cactus.dk Sat Jul 26 01:24:28 2008 From: Gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock) Date: Sat, 26 Jul 2008 08:24:28 +0200 Subject: [AccessD] Exporting To Excel Message-ID: Hi Rocky The major issue is that you can attach (link) a WorkBook or Named Range from an Excel file and read the data but neither update nor append as you could in earlier versions. This counts for A2003 and A2002/XP as well if you apply the latest "security" updates. A97 and A2000 are not affected. /gustav >>> rockysmolin at bchacc.com 25-07-2008 20:01 >>> Dear List: I have a client using 2007 who just came across a restriction on exporting data to Excel. IIRC, it was an anti-trust litigation thing. Briefly, what can't you do in 2007 regarding automation with Excel? Is TrassferSpreadSheet still working? Can you save the results of a query to Excel? MTIA, Rocky Smolin Beach Access Software 858-259-4334 www.e-z-mrp.com www.bchacc.com -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From shamil at smsconsulting.spb.ru Sat Jul 26 05:33:41 2008 From: shamil at smsconsulting.spb.ru (Shamil Salakhetdinov) Date: Sat, 26 Jul 2008 14:33:41 +0400 Subject: [AccessD] Weekend OT: Russia today by seven years old boy's eyes... Message-ID: <1e5501c8ef0b$15138a60$6401a8c0@nant> Hi All, Have a look if you're curious how everyday life looks like here both in the St.Petersburg city downtown on this city "birthday" eve 27th May 2008 and in the country side here this summer: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m62TnvXqQBc Enjoy! :) -- Shamil P.S. Most of the stuff done by my seven years old son who made all the pics, video clips, copied them on Dell notebook from photo camera memory card and combined into movies using English versions of MS Movie Maker running on MS Windows Vista... That's amazing what kids can do these days using nowadays technologies! From wdhindman at dejpolsystems.com Sat Jul 26 06:27:41 2008 From: wdhindman at dejpolsystems.com (William Hindman) Date: Sat, 26 Jul 2008 07:27:41 -0400 Subject: [AccessD] Weekend OT: Russia today by seven years old boy's eyes... References: <1e5501c8ef0b$15138a60$6401a8c0@nant> Message-ID: ...Damir has some talent, Shamil ...truly a beautiful city but if its "summer" there why is everyone wearing coats and sweaters? ...bbbbbrrrrrrrrrrrrrr!!!! :) William -------------------------------------------------- From: "Shamil Salakhetdinov" Sent: Saturday, July 26, 2008 6:33 AM To: "'Access-D'" Subject: [AccessD] Weekend OT: Russia today by seven years old boy's eyes... > Hi All, > > Have a look if you're curious how everyday life looks like here both in > the > St.Petersburg city downtown on this city "birthday" eve 27th May 2008 and > in > the country side here this summer: > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m62TnvXqQBc > > Enjoy! :) > > -- > Shamil > > P.S. Most of the stuff done by my seven years old son who made all the > pics, > video clips, copied them on Dell notebook from photo camera memory card > and > combined into movies using English versions of MS Movie Maker running on > MS > Windows Vista... > > That's amazing what kids can do these days using nowadays technologies! > > -- > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > From tinanfields at torchlake.com Sat Jul 26 06:32:14 2008 From: tinanfields at torchlake.com (Tina Norris Fields) Date: Sat, 26 Jul 2008 07:32:14 -0400 Subject: [AccessD] Weekend OT: Russia today by seven years old boy's eyes... In-Reply-To: <1e5501c8ef0b$15138a60$6401a8c0@nant> References: <1e5501c8ef0b$15138a60$6401a8c0@nant> Message-ID: <488B0B3E.7050904@torchlake.com> Hi Shamil, That's a beautiful look into the birthday celebration of historical St. Petersburg and into the lovely surrounding countryside. Your young Damir did a wonderful job. (Did I get the name right?) What struck me profoundly, once again, is how familiar everything really is - we are half a world apart, we speak a different language, we have different forms of government, etc., but the beauty of the earth looks the same, the face of the mime entertaining people looks the same, and the enjoyment of the young boy and his parents looks the same in St. Petersburg, Russia as it does here in Rapid City, Michigan, in the USA. Furthermore, the emotional settings evoked by the musical selections for the several segments of the video, are familiar and easily understood across these many miles. For all the differences we can find among peoples, I find myself awestruck again and again by our much greater similarities. Please forgive me for waxing too philosophical here. I enjoyed Damir's video, I hope he will do many more to share with all of us. Tina Shamil Salakhetdinov wrote: > Hi All, > > Have a look if you're curious how everyday life looks like here both in the > St.Petersburg city downtown on this city "birthday" eve 27th May 2008 and in > the country side here this summer: > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m62TnvXqQBc > > Enjoy! :) > > -- > Shamil > > P.S. Most of the stuff done by my seven years old son who made all the pics, > video clips, copied them on Dell notebook from photo camera memory card and > combined into movies using English versions of MS Movie Maker running on MS > Windows Vista... > > That's amazing what kids can do these days using nowadays technologies! > > From jimdettman at verizon.net Sat Jul 26 08:00:49 2008 From: jimdettman at verizon.net (Jim Dettman) Date: Sat, 26 Jul 2008 09:00:49 -0400 Subject: [AccessD] Weekend OT: Russia today by seven years old boy's eyes... In-Reply-To: <1e5501c8ef0b$15138a60$6401a8c0@nant> References: <1e5501c8ef0b$15138a60$6401a8c0@nant> Message-ID: <004b01c8ef1f$a1098740$8abea8c0@XPS> Shamil, Thanks for posting that. Nice video. Got my day started off right! Jim. -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Shamil Salakhetdinov Sent: Saturday, July 26, 2008 6:34 AM To: 'Access-D' Subject: [AccessD] Weekend OT: Russia today by seven years old boy's eyes... Hi All, Have a look if you're curious how everyday life looks like here both in the St.Petersburg city downtown on this city "birthday" eve 27th May 2008 and in the country side here this summer: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m62TnvXqQBc Enjoy! :) -- Shamil P.S. Most of the stuff done by my seven years old son who made all the pics, video clips, copied them on Dell notebook from photo camera memory card and combined into movies using English versions of MS Movie Maker running on MS Windows Vista... That's amazing what kids can do these days using nowadays technologies! -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From shamil at smsconsulting.spb.ru Sat Jul 26 09:09:01 2008 From: shamil at smsconsulting.spb.ru (Shamil Salakhetdinov) Date: Sat, 26 Jul 2008 18:09:01 +0400 Subject: [AccessD] Weekend OT: Russia today by seven years old boy'seyes... In-Reply-To: <488B0B3E.7050904@torchlake.com> Message-ID: <1e5601c8ef29$27827da0$6401a8c0@nant> Thank you, Tina, Yes, his name is Damir. <<< For all the differences we can find among peoples, I find myself awestruck again and again by our much greater similarities. >>> Yes, the same feeling here - in fact this was my intention (:)) to highlight how similar we're in our general perception of this world by publishing these simple movies on everyday life here - I'm a kind of "sick & tired" to watch and hear mainly bad and "yellow/hot" news from mass-media both local and world-wide - Internet access is not limited here, CNN, BBC etc. as well as all the main western and eastern magazines and newspapers are available here for the one who is interested to see this world from different angles... ...in the same time I think/see there are some small but very significant differences in our attitude to this world and our lives: main AccessD thread isn't right place to talk about them - maybe I come to dba-OT one day to talk about that differences how I see them, and how to help each other to understand the roots of these differences, and to find a way to live in piece and fruitful cooperation on this planet... <<< Please forgive me for waxing too philosophical here. >>> That's OK, Tina - as you can see I'm philosophical and relaxed here too, this weekend, and I'm really enjoying the fresh view of this life, which only children can provide us with... <<< I enjoyed Damir's video, I hope he will do many more to share with all of us. >>> Thank you, Tina. In fact Damir makes a new part release every weekend, when I come to country side where he stays summer time with his grand-mother - there are seven parts now - some of them are published there on YouTube on my account - http://www.youtube.com/user/ShamilMS ... Enjoy! :) Thank you. -- Shamil -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Tina Norris Fields Sent: Saturday, July 26, 2008 3:32 PM To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving Subject: Re: [AccessD] Weekend OT: Russia today by seven years old boy'seyes... Hi Shamil, That's a beautiful look into the birthday celebration of historical St. Petersburg and into the lovely surrounding countryside. Your young Damir did a wonderful job. (Did I get the name right?) What struck me profoundly, once again, is how familiar everything really is - we are half a world apart, we speak a different language, we have different forms of government, etc., but the beauty of the earth looks the same, the face of the mime entertaining people looks the same, and the enjoyment of the young boy and his parents looks the same in St. Petersburg, Russia as it does here in Rapid City, Michigan, in the USA. Furthermore, the emotional settings evoked by the musical selections for the several segments of the video, are familiar and easily understood across these many miles. For all the differences we can find among peoples, I find myself awestruck again and again by our much greater similarities. Please forgive me for waxing too philosophical here. I enjoyed Damir's video, I hope he will do many more to share with all of us. Tina Shamil Salakhetdinov wrote: > Hi All, > > Have a look if you're curious how everyday life looks like here both in the > St.Petersburg city downtown on this city "birthday" eve 27th May 2008 and in > the country side here this summer: > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m62TnvXqQBc > > Enjoy! :) > > -- > Shamil > > P.S. Most of the stuff done by my seven years old son who made all the pics, > video clips, copied them on Dell notebook from photo camera memory card and > combined into movies using English versions of MS Movie Maker running on MS > Windows Vista... > > That's amazing what kids can do these days using nowadays technologies! > > -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From shamil at smsconsulting.spb.ru Sat Jul 26 09:09:01 2008 From: shamil at smsconsulting.spb.ru (Shamil Salakhetdinov) Date: Sat, 26 Jul 2008 18:09:01 +0400 Subject: [AccessD] Weekend OT: Russia today by seven years old boy'seyes... In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <1e5701c8ef29$2790d580$6401a8c0@nant> Thank you. William, Yes, Damir seems to have some talent for making pics and combining then into movies; some pics I was told by a professional photographer are really fresh and unexpected (by adults) attraction/mirroring of this world... <<< ...bbbbbrrrrrrrrrrrrrr!!!! :) >>> Well, that's not Florida here William you know :) And this summer is rather cold and rainy here comparing some years before... Half of the pictures or even more were made in April and May when it's still between 10 and 15 Celcius in average... And summer time - one day it could be 25-30 Celcius and then the next day it could go down to almost 12 Celcius - NorthWinds, we all now well about from MS Access sample database, are ruling here... But we never have hurricanes here I must say - maybe that's a compensation for relatively cold summer season... :) -- Shamil -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of William Hindman Sent: Saturday, July 26, 2008 3:28 PM To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving Subject: Re: [AccessD] Weekend OT: Russia today by seven years old boy'seyes... ...Damir has some talent, Shamil ...truly a beautiful city but if its "summer" there why is everyone wearing coats and sweaters? ...bbbbbrrrrrrrrrrrrrr!!!! :) William -------------------------------------------------- From: "Shamil Salakhetdinov" Sent: Saturday, July 26, 2008 6:33 AM To: "'Access-D'" Subject: [AccessD] Weekend OT: Russia today by seven years old boy's eyes... > Hi All, > > Have a look if you're curious how everyday life looks like here both in > the > St.Petersburg city downtown on this city "birthday" eve 27th May 2008 and > in > the country side here this summer: > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m62TnvXqQBc > > Enjoy! :) > > -- > Shamil > > P.S. Most of the stuff done by my seven years old son who made all the > pics, > video clips, copied them on Dell notebook from photo camera memory card > and > combined into movies using English versions of MS Movie Maker running on > MS > Windows Vista... > > That's amazing what kids can do these days using nowadays technologies! > > -- > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From fuller.artful at gmail.com Sat Jul 26 09:31:03 2008 From: fuller.artful at gmail.com (Arthur Fuller) Date: Sat, 26 Jul 2008 11:31:03 -0300 Subject: [AccessD] Weekend OT: Russia today by seven years old boy'seyes... In-Reply-To: <1e5601c8ef29$27827da0$6401a8c0@nant> References: <488B0B3E.7050904@torchlake.com> <1e5601c8ef29$27827da0$6401a8c0@nant> Message-ID: <29f585dd0807260731x68588f9v68ac2a395292ef4c@mail.gmail.com> I am wondering how well my favorite poem will translate to Russian. I used to think T.S. Eliot the greatest poet of the 20th century (I can recite "Profrock" no problem.) But then I came upon this masterpiece: Caxtons are mechanical birds with many wings and some are treasured for their markings - they cause the eyes to melt or the body to shriek without pain. I have never seen one fly, but sometimes they perch on the hand. Mist is when the sky is tired of flight and rests its soft machine on ground: then the world is dim and bookish like engravings under tissue paper. Rain is when the earth is television. It has the property of making colours darker. Model T is a room with the lock inside - a key is turned to free the world for movement, so quick there is a film to watch for anything missed. But time is tied to the wrist or kept in a box, ticking with impatience. In homes, a haunted apparatus sleeps, that snores when you pick it up. If the ghost cries, they carry it to their lips and soothe it to sleep with sounds. And yet they wake it up deliberately, by tickling with a finger. Only the young are allowed to suffer openly. Adults go to a punishment room with water but nothing to eat. They lock the door and suffer the noises alone. No one is exempt and everyone's pain has a different smell. At night when all the colours die, they hide in pairs and read about themselves - in colour, with their eyelids shut. -- Craig Raine It may take you several minutes to work it out, but wow. I wish that I had written that. Arthur On Sat, Jul 26, 2008 at 11:09 AM, Shamil Salakhetdinov < shamil at smsconsulting.spb.ru> wrote: > Thank you, Tina, > > Yes, his name is Damir. > > <<< > For all the differences we can find among peoples, I find myself > awestruck again and again by our much greater similarities. > >>> > Yes, the same feeling here - in fact this was my intention (:)) to > highlight > how similar we're in our general perception of this world by publishing > these simple movies on everyday life here - I'm a kind of "sick & tired" to > watch and hear mainly bad and "yellow/hot" news from mass-media both local > and world-wide - Internet access is not limited here, CNN, BBC etc. as well > as all the main western and eastern magazines and newspapers are available > here for the one who is interested to see this world from different > angles... > > ...in the same time I think/see there are some small but very significant > differences in our attitude to this world and our lives: main AccessD > thread > isn't right place to talk about them - maybe I come to dba-OT one day to > talk about that differences how I see them, and how to help each other to > understand the roots of these differences, and to find a way to live in > piece and fruitful cooperation on this planet... > > <<< > Please forgive me for waxing too philosophical here. > >>> > That's OK, Tina - as you can see I'm philosophical and relaxed here too, > this weekend, and I'm really enjoying the fresh view of this life, which > only children can provide us with... > > <<< > I enjoyed Damir's video, I hope he will do many more > to share with all of us. > >>> > Thank you, Tina. > > In fact Damir makes a new part release every weekend, when I come to > country > side where he stays summer time with his grand-mother - there are seven > parts now - some of them are published there on YouTube on my account - > http://www.youtube.com/user/ShamilMS ... > > Enjoy! :) > > Thank you. > > -- > Shamil > > -----Original Message----- > From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Tina Norris > Fields > Sent: Saturday, July 26, 2008 3:32 PM > To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving > Subject: Re: [AccessD] Weekend OT: Russia today by seven years old > boy'seyes... > > Hi Shamil, > > That's a beautiful look into the birthday celebration of historical St. > Petersburg and into the lovely surrounding countryside. Your young > Damir did a wonderful job. (Did I get the name right?) > > What struck me profoundly, once again, is how familiar everything really > is - we are half a world apart, we speak a different language, we have > different forms of government, etc., but the beauty of the earth looks > the same, the face of the mime entertaining people looks the same, and > the enjoyment of the young boy and his parents looks the same in St. > Petersburg, Russia as it does here in Rapid City, Michigan, in the USA. > Furthermore, the emotional settings evoked by the musical selections for > the several segments of the video, are familiar and easily understood > across these many miles. > > For all the differences we can find among peoples, I find myself > awestruck again and again by our much greater similarities. Please > forgive me for waxing too philosophical here. > > I enjoyed Damir's video, I hope he will do many more to share with all > of us. > > Tina > > Shamil Salakhetdinov wrote: > > Hi All, > > > > Have a look if you're curious how everyday life looks like here both in > the > > St.Petersburg city downtown on this city "birthday" eve 27th May 2008 and > in > > the country side here this summer: > > > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m62TnvXqQBc > > > > Enjoy! :) > > > > -- > > Shamil > > > > P.S. Most of the stuff done by my seven years old son who made all the > pics, > > video clips, copied them on Dell notebook from photo camera memory card > and > > combined into movies using English versions of MS Movie Maker running on > MS > > Windows Vista... > > > > That's amazing what kids can do these days using nowadays technologies! > > > > > -- > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > -- > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > From fuller.artful at gmail.com Sat Jul 26 09:34:57 2008 From: fuller.artful at gmail.com (Arthur Fuller) Date: Sat, 26 Jul 2008 11:34:57 -0300 Subject: [AccessD] Weekend OT: Russia today by seven years old boy'seyes... In-Reply-To: <29f585dd0807260731x68588f9v68ac2a395292ef4c@mail.gmail.com> References: <488B0B3E.7050904@torchlake.com> <1e5601c8ef29$27827da0$6401a8c0@nant> <29f585dd0807260731x68588f9v68ac2a395292ef4c@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <29f585dd0807260734q7f8cd1acp71ffe5ef252c44df@mail.gmail.com> Oops. A typo. I meant Prufrock. And also I forgot to include the title of this poem. It's titled "A Martian Sends a Postcard Home". On Sat, Jul 26, 2008 at 11:31 AM, Arthur Fuller wrote: > I am wondering how well my favorite poem will translate to Russian. I > used to think T.S. Eliot the greatest poet of the 20th century (I can recite > "Profrock" no problem.) But then I came upon this masterpiece: > > > > Caxtons are mechanical birds with many wings > and some are treasured for their markings - > > they cause the eyes to melt > or the body to shriek without pain. > > I have never seen one fly, but > sometimes they perch on the hand. > > Mist is when the sky is tired of flight > and rests its soft machine on ground: > > then the world is dim and bookish > like engravings under tissue paper. > > Rain is when the earth is television. > It has the property of making colours darker. > > Model T is a room with the lock inside - > a key is turned to free the world > > for movement, so quick there is a film > to watch for anything missed. > > But time is tied to the wrist > or kept in a box, ticking with impatience. > > In homes, a haunted apparatus sleeps, > that snores when you pick it up. > > If the ghost cries, they carry it > to their lips and soothe it to sleep > > with sounds. And yet they wake it up > deliberately, by tickling with a finger. > > Only the young are allowed to suffer > openly. Adults go to a punishment room > > with water but nothing to eat. > They lock the door and suffer the noises > > alone. No one is exempt > and everyone's pain has a different smell. > > At night when all the colours die, > they hide in pairs > > and read about themselves - > in colour, with their eyelids shut. > > -- Craig Raine > > > > It may take you several minutes to work it out, but wow. I wish that I had > written that. > > Arthur > > On Sat, Jul 26, 2008 at 11:09 AM, Shamil Salakhetdinov < > shamil at smsconsulting.spb.ru> wrote: > >> Thank you, Tina, >> >> Yes, his name is Damir. >> >> <<< >> For all the differences we can find among peoples, I find myself >> awestruck again and again by our much greater similarities. >> >>> >> Yes, the same feeling here - in fact this was my intention (:)) to >> highlight >> how similar we're in our general perception of this world by publishing >> these simple movies on everyday life here - I'm a kind of "sick & tired" >> to >> watch and hear mainly bad and "yellow/hot" news from mass-media both local >> and world-wide - Internet access is not limited here, CNN, BBC etc. as >> well >> as all the main western and eastern magazines and newspapers are available >> here for the one who is interested to see this world from different >> angles... >> >> ...in the same time I think/see there are some small but very significant >> differences in our attitude to this world and our lives: main AccessD >> thread >> isn't right place to talk about them - maybe I come to dba-OT one day to >> talk about that differences how I see them, and how to help each other to >> understand the roots of these differences, and to find a way to live in >> piece and fruitful cooperation on this planet... >> >> <<< >> Please forgive me for waxing too philosophical here. >> >>> >> That's OK, Tina - as you can see I'm philosophical and relaxed here too, >> this weekend, and I'm really enjoying the fresh view of this life, which >> only children can provide us with... >> >> <<< >> I enjoyed Damir's video, I hope he will do many more >> to share with all of us. >> >>> >> Thank you, Tina. >> >> In fact Damir makes a new part release every weekend, when I come to >> country >> side where he stays summer time with his grand-mother - there are seven >> parts now - some of them are published there on YouTube on my account - >> http://www.youtube.com/user/ShamilMS ... >> >> Enjoy! :) >> >> Thank you. >> >> -- >> Shamil >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com >> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Tina Norris >> Fields >> Sent: Saturday, July 26, 2008 3:32 PM >> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving >> Subject: Re: [AccessD] Weekend OT: Russia today by seven years old >> boy'seyes... >> >> Hi Shamil, >> >> That's a beautiful look into the birthday celebration of historical St. >> Petersburg and into the lovely surrounding countryside. Your young >> Damir did a wonderful job. (Did I get the name right?) >> >> What struck me profoundly, once again, is how familiar everything really >> is - we are half a world apart, we speak a different language, we have >> different forms of government, etc., but the beauty of the earth looks >> the same, the face of the mime entertaining people looks the same, and >> the enjoyment of the young boy and his parents looks the same in St. >> Petersburg, Russia as it does here in Rapid City, Michigan, in the USA. >> Furthermore, the emotional settings evoked by the musical selections for >> the several segments of the video, are familiar and easily understood >> across these many miles. >> >> For all the differences we can find among peoples, I find myself >> awestruck again and again by our much greater similarities. Please >> forgive me for waxing too philosophical here. >> >> I enjoyed Damir's video, I hope he will do many more to share with all >> of us. >> >> Tina >> >> Shamil Salakhetdinov wrote: >> > Hi All, >> > >> > Have a look if you're curious how everyday life looks like here both in >> the >> > St.Petersburg city downtown on this city "birthday" eve 27th May 2008 >> and >> in >> > the country side here this summer: >> > >> > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m62TnvXqQBc >> > >> > Enjoy! :) >> > >> > -- >> > Shamil >> > >> > P.S. Most of the stuff done by my seven years old son who made all the >> pics, >> > video clips, copied them on Dell notebook from photo camera memory card >> and >> > combined into movies using English versions of MS Movie Maker running on >> MS >> > Windows Vista... >> > >> > That's amazing what kids can do these days using nowadays technologies! >> > >> > >> -- >> AccessD mailing list >> AccessD at databaseadvisors.com >> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd >> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com >> >> -- >> AccessD mailing list >> AccessD at databaseadvisors.com >> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd >> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com >> > > From djkr at msn.com Sat Jul 26 10:09:45 2008 From: djkr at msn.com (DJK(John) Robinson) Date: Sat, 26 Jul 2008 16:09:45 +0100 Subject: [AccessD] Weekend OT: Russia today by seven years old boy's eyes... In-Reply-To: <1e5501c8ef0b$15138a60$6401a8c0@nant> Message-ID: Shamil What a delight! Thanks so much. John PS (for North American folk) St Petersburg is the same latitude as the *Northern* borders of Saskatchewan, Alberta & BC, a good 850 miles north of southerly places like Seattle and Maine... -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Shamil Salakhetdinov Sent: 26 July 2008 11:34 To: 'Access-D' Subject: [AccessD] Weekend OT: Russia today by seven years old boy's eyes... Hi All, Have a look if you're curious how everyday life looks like here both in the St.Petersburg city downtown on this city "birthday" eve 27th May 2008 and in the country side here this summer: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m62TnvXqQBc Enjoy! :) -- Shamil P.S. Most of the stuff done by my seven years old son who made all the pics, video clips, copied them on Dell notebook from photo camera memory card and combined into movies using English versions of MS Movie Maker running on MS Windows Vista... That's amazing what kids can do these days using nowadays technologies! -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From shamil at smsconsulting.spb.ru Sat Jul 26 11:25:46 2008 From: shamil at smsconsulting.spb.ru (Shamil Salakhetdinov) Date: Sat, 26 Jul 2008 20:25:46 +0400 Subject: [AccessD] Weekend OT: Russia today by seven years oldboy'seyes... In-Reply-To: <29f585dd0807260734q7f8cd1acp71ffe5ef252c44df@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1e6b01c8ef3c$42a142c0$6401a8c0@nant> Hi Arthur, I think it should get translated well in Russian language as Russian language is melodic e.g. I'd say this T.S. Elliot gem: <<< A DEDICATION TO MY WIFE by T.S. Eliot To whom I owe the leaping delight That quickens my senses in our wakingtime And the rhythm that governs the repose of our sleepingtime, the breathing in unison. Of lovers whose bodies smell of each other Who think the same thoughts without need of speech, And babble the same speech without need of meaning... No peevish winter wind shall chill No sullen tropic sun shall wither The roses in the rose-garden which is ours and ours only But this dedication is for others to read: These are private words addressed to you in public. >>> translated to Russian (here in the bottom of the page http://www.classic-book.ru/lib/al/book/509 ) sounds even more impressive and tempting than original at least for me, probably because Russian is my native language... I can't find professional translation of "A Martian Sends a Postcard Home" - I'm sorry what T.S.Elliot book is it from? I can try translate by myself but professional translation should be much better... I suppose you will like Osip Mandelstam (English: http://lib.ru/POEZIQ/MANDELSHTAM/tristia_engl.txt (Russian originals are here: http://lib.ru/POEZIQ/MANDELSHTAM/tristia.txt )) verses: *** It's so my own and so familiar. What should I do with this God-given flesh and blood? For joys so quiet as to live and breathe, Who will receive my gratitude for these? I'm both the gardener and flower one, In this world's dungeons I am not alone. On the glass of the eternal one can see The traces of my breath and of the warmth of me. Henceforth it bears a pattern which is mine Even to me unknown from recent times. Let it be drained, the turmoil of the day - The lovely pattern won't be crossed away. -- Shamil -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Arthur Fuller Sent: Saturday, July 26, 2008 6:35 PM To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving Subject: Re: [AccessD] Weekend OT: Russia today by seven years oldboy'seyes... Oops. A typo. I meant Prufrock. And also I forgot to include the title of this poem. It's titled "A Martian Sends a Postcard Home". On Sat, Jul 26, 2008 at 11:31 AM, Arthur Fuller wrote: > I am wondering how well my favorite poem will translate to Russian. I > used to think T.S. Eliot the greatest poet of the 20th century (I can recite > "Profrock" no problem.) But then I came upon this masterpiece: > > > > Caxtons are mechanical birds with many wings > and some are treasured for their markings - > > they cause the eyes to melt > or the body to shriek without pain. > > I have never seen one fly, but > sometimes they perch on the hand. > > Mist is when the sky is tired of flight > and rests its soft machine on ground: > > then the world is dim and bookish > like engravings under tissue paper. > > Rain is when the earth is television. > It has the property of making colours darker. > > Model T is a room with the lock inside - > a key is turned to free the world > > for movement, so quick there is a film > to watch for anything missed. > > But time is tied to the wrist > or kept in a box, ticking with impatience. > > In homes, a haunted apparatus sleeps, > that snores when you pick it up. > > If the ghost cries, they carry it > to their lips and soothe it to sleep > > with sounds. And yet they wake it up > deliberately, by tickling with a finger. > > Only the young are allowed to suffer > openly. Adults go to a punishment room > > with water but nothing to eat. > They lock the door and suffer the noises > > alone. No one is exempt > and everyone's pain has a different smell. > > At night when all the colours die, > they hide in pairs > > and read about themselves - > in colour, with their eyelids shut. > > -- Craig Raine > > > > It may take you several minutes to work it out, but wow. I wish that I had > written that. > > Arthur From kathryn at bassett.net Sat Jul 26 13:48:35 2008 From: kathryn at bassett.net (Kathryn Bassett) Date: Sat, 26 Jul 2008 11:48:35 -0700 Subject: [AccessD] Weekend OT: Russia today by seven years old boy's eyes... In-Reply-To: <1e5501c8ef0b$15138a60$6401a8c0@nant> References: <1e5501c8ef0b$15138a60$6401a8c0@nant> Message-ID: <108DFE157B9348A5B0CFEB0EF364DA09@KathrynVista> I'd love to see some English subtitles on the one titled "Russian village Sosnovo, summer 2008" Kathryn > -----Original Message----- > From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of > Shamil Salakhetdinov > Sent: 26 Jul 2008 3:34 AM > To: 'Access-D' > Subject: [AccessD] Weekend OT: Russia today by seven years > old boy's eyes... > > Hi All, > > Have a look if you're curious how everyday life looks like > here both in the > St.Petersburg city downtown on this city "birthday" eve 27th > May 2008 and in > the country side here this summer: > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m62TnvXqQBc > > Enjoy! :) > > -- > Shamil > > P.S. Most of the stuff done by my seven years old son who > made all the pics, > video clips, copied them on Dell notebook from photo camera > memory card and > combined into movies using English versions of MS Movie Maker > running on MS > Windows Vista... > > That's amazing what kids can do these days using nowadays > technologies! > > -- > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > From ssharkins at gmail.com Sat Jul 26 19:29:20 2008 From: ssharkins at gmail.com (Susan Harkins) Date: Sat, 26 Jul 2008 20:29:20 -0400 Subject: [AccessD] Another article some of you might like Message-ID: <05d701c8ef7f$d11aaad0$2f8601c7@SusanOne> ======It isn't necessary to leave a comment or vote, but thought you guys might enjoy the show. :) Susan H. From dwaters at usinternet.com Sat Jul 26 19:58:05 2008 From: dwaters at usinternet.com (Dan Waters) Date: Sat, 26 Jul 2008 19:58:05 -0500 Subject: [AccessD] Another article some of you might like In-Reply-To: <05d701c8ef7f$d11aaad0$2f8601c7@SusanOne> References: <05d701c8ef7f$d11aaad0$2f8601c7@SusanOne> Message-ID: Hi Susan, I read it this morning! Very Good - I believe I've seen all of this. Very unfortunate for the company those IT folks are in. One of your items is that Access is easy to learn, and sometime the databases have departments that become dependent on them, and then IT has to do an 'emergency' repair with no budget, no people, and no time. When this happens over and over IT starts to hate Access. In fact, I got my first customer by explaining this exact problem to the IT person and was able to persuade him that the problem wasn't Access, but just the untrained person who was no longer there (he'd just spent 2 weeks trying to unsecure the database). I set them up with a new system, kept it maintained, and he was a big supporter after that! To show this problem graphically, I made a chart. You can download it from: www.promationsystems.com/accessskillzones.htm Dan -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Susan Harkins Sent: Saturday, July 26, 2008 7:29 PM To: AccessD at databaseadvisors.com Subject: [AccessD] Another article some of you might like ======It isn't necessary to leave a comment or vote, but thought you guys might enjoy the show. :) Susan H. -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From accessd at shaw.ca Sat Jul 26 23:38:16 2008 From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence) Date: Sat, 26 Jul 2008 21:38:16 -0700 Subject: [AccessD] Weekend OT: Russia today by seven years old boy's eyes... In-Reply-To: <1e5501c8ef0b$15138a60$6401a8c0@nant> References: <1e5501c8ef0b$15138a60$6401a8c0@nant> Message-ID: <11D2715B429E41B8AC7C959C92477F57@creativesystemdesigns.com> Hi Shamil: Tell your son he is very talented... takes after his Dad. Jim -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Shamil Salakhetdinov Sent: Saturday, July 26, 2008 3:34 AM To: 'Access-D' Subject: [AccessD] Weekend OT: Russia today by seven years old boy's eyes... Hi All, Have a look if you're curious how everyday life looks like here both in the St.Petersburg city downtown on this city "birthday" eve 27th May 2008 and in the country side here this summer: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m62TnvXqQBc Enjoy! :) -- Shamil P.S. Most of the stuff done by my seven years old son who made all the pics, video clips, copied them on Dell notebook from photo camera memory card and combined into movies using English versions of MS Movie Maker running on MS Windows Vista... That's amazing what kids can do these days using nowadays technologies! -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From accessd at shaw.ca Sat Jul 26 23:46:03 2008 From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence) Date: Sat, 26 Jul 2008 21:46:03 -0700 Subject: [AccessD] Another article some of you might like In-Reply-To: <05d701c8ef7f$d11aaad0$2f8601c7@SusanOne> References: <05d701c8ef7f$d11aaad0$2f8601c7@SusanOne> Message-ID: <8E4355B5B9134ACDBBD667DB07A3C9B8@creativesystemdesigns.com> Hi Susan: Definitely worthy od posting on the DBA site. Jim -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Susan Harkins Sent: Saturday, July 26, 2008 5:29 PM To: AccessD at databaseadvisors.com Subject: [AccessD] Another article some of you might like ======It isn't necessary to leave a comment or vote, but thought you guys might enjoy the show. :) Susan H. -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From shamil at smsconsulting.spb.ru Sun Jul 27 05:03:40 2008 From: shamil at smsconsulting.spb.ru (Shamil Salakhetdinov) Date: Sun, 27 Jul 2008 14:03:40 +0400 Subject: [AccessD] Call Stack in VBA? In-Reply-To: <29f585dd0807251252w232c2d60v43fc76ec6c696330@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1eb901c8efd0$0c7b6ab0$6401a8c0@nant> Hi Dan and Arthur, I looked in my archives and I have found the add-in and the support library for it... I have published support library here: http://smsconsulting.spb.ru/download/addins/SMSProfilerLIB.zip It's VB6 project, which can be compiled into ActiveX DLL, and the latter can be used with MS Access... The source VB6 code of this library can be also put into MS Access library mdb... Sorry, this is almost ten years old code - it seems to be clean and streamlined but not commented well enough... As for add-in generating calls to profile/trace library - this part of code have to be additionally worked through as it has some proprietary code with I signed NDA for - and I have to clean it up... But you still can use the referred above library/source code to get tracing obtained and stored in XMl file - see sample in P.S. - the download link also has this sample. There are quite some stuff developed here on subject - maybe you Dan and Arthur and Susan(?) will be interested to team up and write an article/some articles on this subject of VBA profiling/tracing if that is still interesting? And I'd act as provider of some advanced code on the subject - OK? :) Thank you. -- Shamil P.S. Here is how tracing can be implemented/tested using the above lib - be careful with passing/saving object references to trace object as these references could keep their objects "live" until program quits - that have to be checked... Option Compare Database Option Explicit #Const TRACE_PROC_CALLS = 1 Public Const APP_NAME As String = "TEST_VBA_TRACING" Private Const mcstrModuleName As String = "basTestTracingProfiling" Private Const MAX_INDEX As Integer = 3 Public Function testTracing() ' inti tracing/profiling smsProfilerLib.Trace.Init ' --- Test call --- Dim index As Integer For index = 1 To MAX_INDEX TestCallLevel1 "Hello, World!", index Next index ' --- end of test call -- ' reset tracing/profiling smsProfilerLib.Trace.Reset End Function Private Property Get xmlFileFullPath() As String xmlFileFullPath = CurrentProject.Path + "\profile.xml" End Property Public Sub TestCallLevel1(helloWorld As String, index As Integer) '#region this code block can be generated/removed by add-in Const cstrProcName As String = "TestCallLevel1" #If TRACE_PROC_CALLS Then Dim objTrace As Object Set objTrace = GetNewTraceObject(APP_NAME, _ mcstrModuleName, _ cstrProcName, _ "helloWorld(String)", helloWorld, _ "index(Integer)", index) #End If '#end region Dim dbs As DAO.Database Set dbs = CurrentDb TestCallLevel2 dbs, index End Sub Public Sub TestCallLevel2(ByRef rdbs As DAO.Database, ByVal index As Integer) '#region this code block can be generated/removed by add-in Const cstrProcName As String = "TestCallLevel2" #If TRACE_PROC_CALLS Then Dim objTrace As Object Set objTrace = GetNewTraceObject(APP_NAME, _ mcstrModuleName, _ cstrProcName, _ "rdbs(DAO.Database)", rdbs, _ "index(Integer)", index _ ) #End If '#end region If index = MAX_INDEX Then ' store collected tracing/profiling in XML smsProfilerLib.Trace.Store xmlFileFullPath, 1 End If End Sub -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Arthur Fuller Sent: Friday, July 25, 2008 11:52 PM To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving Subject: Re: [AccessD] Call Stack in VBA? I second that. Arthur On Fri, Jul 25, 2008 at 3:38 PM, Dan Waters wrote: > As for 100 developers world wide who would want this, I'm sure they exist. > Two of them are here - me and Arthur! But for the rest, there would need > to > be a way to advertise it's existence. > > Does anyone know of a good place to advertise or look for good Access > utilities and add-in's? > > Thanks! > Dan > -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From shamil at smsconsulting.spb.ru Sun Jul 27 05:25:49 2008 From: shamil at smsconsulting.spb.ru (Shamil Salakhetdinov) Date: Sun, 27 Jul 2008 14:25:49 +0400 Subject: [AccessD] Weekend OT: Russia today by seven years old boy'seyes... In-Reply-To: <11D2715B429E41B8AC7C959C92477F57@creativesystemdesigns.com> Message-ID: <1eba01c8efd3$23daf830$6401a8c0@nant> Thank you, Jim, Thank you everybody who watched the movies/clips I posted. Sorry if I didn't answer somebody. I will tell my son that a lot of people liked the stuff he developed in his studio/labs in a Russian village Sosnovo - he should get quite excited on that :) He likes to contact people, and he likes to show his movies/clips to others - he has got shown them already to all the neighbors... What is even more exciting he likes to teach others how to make these movies - independent what age you're - he teaches me, he teaches his 8 years old friend, his elder sister... - IOW he is open to immediately share what he gets known/experienced/found how to do well - that's great... Weekend is getting over here - let's close this thread as it's an OT to this list... Thank you. -- Shamil P.S. Kathryn, I will ask my son to add English subtitles to the new movies/video clips - the source MS Movie Maker projects for the published movies are not preserved... -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim Lawrence Sent: Sunday, July 27, 2008 8:38 AM To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' Subject: Re: [AccessD] Weekend OT: Russia today by seven years old boy'seyes... Hi Shamil: Tell your son he is very talented... takes after his Dad. Jim -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Shamil Salakhetdinov Sent: Saturday, July 26, 2008 3:34 AM To: 'Access-D' Subject: [AccessD] Weekend OT: Russia today by seven years old boy's eyes... Hi All, Have a look if you're curious how everyday life looks like here both in the St.Petersburg city downtown on this city "birthday" eve 27th May 2008 and in the country side here this summer: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m62TnvXqQBc Enjoy! :) -- Shamil P.S. Most of the stuff done by my seven years old son who made all the pics, video clips, copied them on Dell notebook from photo camera memory card and combined into movies using English versions of MS Movie Maker running on MS Windows Vista... That's amazing what kids can do these days using nowadays technologies! -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From iggy at nanaimo.ark.com Sun Jul 27 07:24:33 2008 From: iggy at nanaimo.ark.com (Tony Septav) Date: Sun, 27 Jul 2008 05:24:33 -0700 Subject: [AccessD] Another article some of you might like In-Reply-To: <05d701c8ef7f$d11aaad0$2f8601c7@SusanOne> References: <05d701c8ef7f$d11aaad0$2f8601c7@SusanOne> Message-ID: <488C6901.6020403@nanaimo.ark.com> Hey Susan Nice work. As we all know the IT people are a different breed. Ran into a situation about a year ago, A fellow at a company and myself developed an application to meet the current needs of vast majority of the employees for data recording and reporting (before no standardization, some did them in Word, Excel, NotePad, paper, etc.). It was well received but it p....d of the IT people and they said there were developing something very similiar and in house and they wouldn't be using ACCESS to do it (still haven't seen the application but it is promised). In developing the program we followed the Access developer's rules for providing the user with an clean, easy to use and intuitive program, basically as they say a "no brainer". Anyway about a month ago we were able to talk to one of their developers, we were amazed they had never contacted us before to discuss what people liked about our program ("rather than them re-inventing the wheel"). We would have gladly shared. One of the questions we asked and the response we got made my jaw drop. There is a field linked to a table of about 350 codes, in our program (as any Access developer knows how to do), we filter the combo box based on the user's selection of the previous field, thus avoiding any data entry errors. The user can only select a code associated with the previous field. We asked them if they were doing the same thing, they said no they would be displaying all 350 codes in a pulldown, it would be the user's responsibility to select appropriate code (I hope this is not true). I am anxiously waiting to see their program, if it is good, praise will be given and worth the wait, if not I will just keep my mouth shut. Anyway my little story, not trying to start a "trip down memory lane" responses, it was just in all my years I have never seen such arrogance. Susan Harkins wrote: > > >======It isn't necessary to leave a comment or vote, but thought you guys >might enjoy the show. :) > >Susan H. > > > From rockysmolin at bchacc.com Sun Jul 27 07:45:03 2008 From: rockysmolin at bchacc.com (Rocky Smolin at Beach Access Software) Date: Sun, 27 Jul 2008 05:45:03 -0700 Subject: [AccessD] Weekend OT: Russia today by seven years old boy's eyes... In-Reply-To: <1e5501c8ef0b$15138a60$6401a8c0@nant> References: <1e5501c8ef0b$15138a60$6401a8c0@nant> Message-ID: <018a01c8efe6$974d4800$0301a8c0@HAL9005> Shamil: That's great stuff. Are the other videos his as well? Lots of us have posted pictures to sites like Ofoto. If he's interested in seeing some 'slice of life' pictures from over here, we could send you some links. I remember years ago, I made the acquaintance through the list of Andrei Smolin (no relation) who lives in Gomel, Belarus. We exchanged quite a few letters and pictures. Once I went into the grocery store here and took a bunch of pictures and posted them so he and his family could see what a typical American grocery store looked like. Rocky Smolin Beach Access Software 858-259-4334 www.e-z-mrp.com www.bchacc.com -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Shamil Salakhetdinov Sent: Saturday, July 26, 2008 3:34 AM To: 'Access-D' Subject: [AccessD] Weekend OT: Russia today by seven years old boy's eyes... Hi All, Have a look if you're curious how everyday life looks like here both in the St.Petersburg city downtown on this city "birthday" eve 27th May 2008 and in the country side here this summer: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m62TnvXqQBc Enjoy! :) -- Shamil P.S. Most of the stuff done by my seven years old son who made all the pics, video clips, copied them on Dell notebook from photo camera memory card and combined into movies using English versions of MS Movie Maker running on MS Windows Vista... That's amazing what kids can do these days using nowadays technologies! -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From shamil at smsconsulting.spb.ru Sun Jul 27 08:27:53 2008 From: shamil at smsconsulting.spb.ru (Shamil Salakhetdinov) Date: Sun, 27 Jul 2008 17:27:53 +0400 Subject: [AccessD] Weekend OT: Russia today by seven years old boy'seyes... In-Reply-To: <018a01c8efe6$974d4800$0301a8c0@HAL9005> Message-ID: <1ec901c8efec$92e3c4a0$6401a8c0@nant> Rocky, Yes, he would be pleased to see the photos and videos but I think he would most of all love to visit the States and to make the pictures by himself :) He is a kind of very familiar what New York is :) - he used to play Spider Man computer games - there are two both very good PC games about Spider Man adventure in New York... ..he asked me several times when we will go there - I still can't afford that trip but with the first opportunity I will do that... <<< he and his family could see what a typical American grocery store looked like >>> That was a long ago probably? I have been incognito (:)) to the state Washington a couple of years ago with very short business trip - and I must say/witness :) there is no almost any difference now between yours and ours groceries or supermarkets - I mean that :) BTW, here in St.Petersburg one of the largest retail nets is going to be bought by Carrefour (French or Belgian company) or most probably by Wall Mart - your country company... You still have larger selection of goods in an average supermarket - and - believe me or not (you probably know that) - your average prices are ***lower*** for everything what people uses everyday for foods and clothes etc.... - it was like that two years ago - and this year inflation here promise to be 15%(?) percents so the difference of retail prices is even larger now probably - people is used to go shopping to Finland now because the prices on some good quality products are lower there... ...and Finish people do not claim - they are glad to get more and more money from Russia spent in their country, and they come here often - gasoline is still less expensive here than there etc. - a kind of win-win microeconomics.... -- Shamil -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Rocky Smolin at Beach Access Software Sent: Sunday, July 27, 2008 4:45 PM To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' Subject: Re: [AccessD] Weekend OT: Russia today by seven years old boy'seyes... Shamil: That's great stuff. Are the other videos his as well? Lots of us have posted pictures to sites like Ofoto. If he's interested in seeing some 'slice of life' pictures from over here, we could send you some links. I remember years ago, I made the acquaintance through the list of Andrei Smolin (no relation) who lives in Gomel, Belarus. We exchanged quite a few letters and pictures. Once I went into the grocery store here and took a bunch of pictures and posted them so he and his family could see what a typical American grocery store looked like. Rocky Smolin Beach Access Software 858-259-4334 www.e-z-mrp.com www.bchacc.com -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Shamil Salakhetdinov Sent: Saturday, July 26, 2008 3:34 AM To: 'Access-D' Subject: [AccessD] Weekend OT: Russia today by seven years old boy's eyes... Hi All, Have a look if you're curious how everyday life looks like here both in the St.Petersburg city downtown on this city "birthday" eve 27th May 2008 and in the country side here this summer: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m62TnvXqQBc Enjoy! :) -- Shamil P.S. Most of the stuff done by my seven years old son who made all the pics, video clips, copied them on Dell notebook from photo camera memory card and combined into movies using English versions of MS Movie Maker running on MS Windows Vista... That's amazing what kids can do these days using nowadays technologies! -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From rockysmolin at bchacc.com Sun Jul 27 08:43:46 2008 From: rockysmolin at bchacc.com (Rocky Smolin at Beach Access Software) Date: Sun, 27 Jul 2008 06:43:46 -0700 Subject: [AccessD] Weekend OT: Russia today by seven years oldboy'seyes... In-Reply-To: <1ec901c8efec$92e3c4a0$6401a8c0@nant> References: <018a01c8efe6$974d4800$0301a8c0@HAL9005> <1ec901c8efec$92e3c4a0$6401a8c0@nant> Message-ID: <018e01c8efee$cb718ad0$0301a8c0@HAL9005> Well, it's a long way from New York to San Diego but the door is always open to you if you make it this far. Rocky Smolin Beach Access Software 858-259-4334 www.e-z-mrp.com www.bchacc.com -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Shamil Salakhetdinov Sent: Sunday, July 27, 2008 6:28 AM To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' Subject: Re: [AccessD] Weekend OT: Russia today by seven years oldboy'seyes... Rocky, Yes, he would be pleased to see the photos and videos but I think he would most of all love to visit the States and to make the pictures by himself :) He is a kind of very familiar what New York is :) - he used to play Spider Man computer games - there are two both very good PC games about Spider Man adventure in New York... ..he asked me several times when we will go there - I still can't afford that trip but with the first opportunity I will do that... <<< he and his family could see what a typical American grocery store looked like >>> That was a long ago probably? I have been incognito (:)) to the state Washington a couple of years ago with very short business trip - and I must say/witness :) there is no almost any difference now between yours and ours groceries or supermarkets - I mean that :) BTW, here in St.Petersburg one of the largest retail nets is going to be bought by Carrefour (French or Belgian company) or most probably by Wall Mart - your country company... You still have larger selection of goods in an average supermarket - and - believe me or not (you probably know that) - your average prices are ***lower*** for everything what people uses everyday for foods and clothes etc.... - it was like that two years ago - and this year inflation here promise to be 15%(?) percents so the difference of retail prices is even larger now probably - people is used to go shopping to Finland now because the prices on some good quality products are lower there... ...and Finish people do not claim - they are glad to get more and more money from Russia spent in their country, and they come here often - gasoline is still less expensive here than there etc. - a kind of win-win microeconomics.... -- Shamil -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Rocky Smolin at Beach Access Software Sent: Sunday, July 27, 2008 4:45 PM To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' Subject: Re: [AccessD] Weekend OT: Russia today by seven years old boy'seyes... Shamil: That's great stuff. Are the other videos his as well? Lots of us have posted pictures to sites like Ofoto. If he's interested in seeing some 'slice of life' pictures from over here, we could send you some links. I remember years ago, I made the acquaintance through the list of Andrei Smolin (no relation) who lives in Gomel, Belarus. We exchanged quite a few letters and pictures. Once I went into the grocery store here and took a bunch of pictures and posted them so he and his family could see what a typical American grocery store looked like. Rocky Smolin Beach Access Software 858-259-4334 www.e-z-mrp.com www.bchacc.com -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Shamil Salakhetdinov Sent: Saturday, July 26, 2008 3:34 AM To: 'Access-D' Subject: [AccessD] Weekend OT: Russia today by seven years old boy's eyes... Hi All, Have a look if you're curious how everyday life looks like here both in the St.Petersburg city downtown on this city "birthday" eve 27th May 2008 and in the country side here this summer: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m62TnvXqQBc Enjoy! :) -- Shamil P.S. Most of the stuff done by my seven years old son who made all the pics, video clips, copied them on Dell notebook from photo camera memory card and combined into movies using English versions of MS Movie Maker running on MS Windows Vista... That's amazing what kids can do these days using nowadays technologies! -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From shamil at smsconsulting.spb.ru Sun Jul 27 09:31:23 2008 From: shamil at smsconsulting.spb.ru (Shamil Salakhetdinov) Date: Sun, 27 Jul 2008 18:31:23 +0400 Subject: [AccessD] Weekend OT: Russia today by seven yearsoldboy'seyes... In-Reply-To: <018e01c8efee$cb718ad0$0301a8c0@HAL9005> Message-ID: <1ed601c8eff5$728676e0$6401a8c0@nant> Thank you, Rocky, And you're welcome to St.Petersburg, Russia... <<< it's a long way from New York to San Diego >>> Well, there are planes you know :) When traveling to Seattle, WA, two years ago I have started here at home where I live on North West of St.Petersburg, Russia around 6 a.m. and I was in Seattle around 11 p.m. *the same day* :) Well, because of time difference that was a long 36+ hours trip but the fact it was that long was because of the French custom officers who didn't allow me to cross the borders for a minute to connect in Paris where I did come from St.Petersburg for a direct flight to Seattle (I didn't have Shengen Visa and these guys were severe and were following verbatim all instructions) - but I was a kind of lucky this day (I could have ended up forced to go back to Russia) - but the lady from the airline I flied with to the States did help me to find in 15 minutes a connection flight to Detroit but I have to wait 4 hours in Paris, then I went to Detroit and had to wait some time there also but finely safely arrive the same day to Seattle and my luggage(!) came with me - I have got a rented car and here you are driving American highway night time first time in my life - that was another portion of good stress because that highway wasn't illuminated good enough and I needed to find my way in anew for me country by myself driving the car by highway and having just some contact information and a map, which I didn't see that well while driving because if was rather dark and because there was no that much places to stop and I needed to drive fast etc. :) This long trip and waiting in Detroit allowed me to watch how the everyday's airport life - all the same - all around the world - what was great their in Detroit were connection trains - there is no something like that in Moscow's airport area hence the trouble with connection... To make the story short - I have found my way - and I liked your country - I should have born there on the West in America - next life probably :) BTW, FYI: non-stop flight Los-Angeles -> Moscow I did use on my way back is just 11 or 12 hours - if you're lucky to quickly connect in Moscow to St.Petersburg (which isn't easy to do because Russian airport service there in Moscow is very slow with luggage unloaded and connecting to local flight MSK -> SPB you have to get you luggage connected/brought with you - but if you're lucky, your flight arrived in time, you didn't have luggage then you can connect to SPB and be here in one hour, then one hour drive to my home from airport from the South of Spb to North - all in all - if you live near to the airport in Los-Angeles and if they ever allow to check-in for the flights as before just one hour or less in advance then you can be in SPB in 14-15 hours starting from Los Angeles - maybe even quicker - good connection points to SPB are Amsterdam, London, Copenhagen, Frankfurt, Hamburg, Stockholm or Helsinki - and they do connect to SPB better and quicker than in Moscow - and you can be here probably in 12 hours(?) - not sure about the latter... ...then another 1+ hour drive and you're in the village Sosnovo you have seen in the movie of my son :) Closing that OT thread now. Thank you everybody for letting me this OT here and for your kind references on my son work. Welcome to St.Petersburg, Russia! :) -- Shamil -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Rocky Smolin at Beach Access Software Sent: Sunday, July 27, 2008 5:44 PM To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' Subject: Re: [AccessD] Weekend OT: Russia today by seven yearsoldboy'seyes... Well, it's a long way from New York to San Diego but the door is always open to you if you make it this far. Rocky Smolin Beach Access Software 858-259-4334 www.e-z-mrp.com www.bchacc.com -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Shamil Salakhetdinov Sent: Sunday, July 27, 2008 6:28 AM To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' Subject: Re: [AccessD] Weekend OT: Russia today by seven years oldboy'seyes... Rocky, Yes, he would be pleased to see the photos and videos but I think he would most of all love to visit the States and to make the pictures by himself :) He is a kind of very familiar what New York is :) - he used to play Spider Man computer games - there are two both very good PC games about Spider Man adventure in New York... ..he asked me several times when we will go there - I still can't afford that trip but with the first opportunity I will do that... <<< he and his family could see what a typical American grocery store looked like >>> That was a long ago probably? I have been incognito (:)) to the state Washington a couple of years ago with very short business trip - and I must say/witness :) there is no almost any difference now between yours and ours groceries or supermarkets - I mean that :) BTW, here in St.Petersburg one of the largest retail nets is going to be bought by Carrefour (French or Belgian company) or most probably by Wall Mart - your country company... You still have larger selection of goods in an average supermarket - and - believe me or not (you probably know that) - your average prices are ***lower*** for everything what people uses everyday for foods and clothes etc.... - it was like that two years ago - and this year inflation here promise to be 15%(?) percents so the difference of retail prices is even larger now probably - people is used to go shopping to Finland now because the prices on some good quality products are lower there... ...and Finish people do not claim - they are glad to get more and more money from Russia spent in their country, and they come here often - gasoline is still less expensive here than there etc. - a kind of win-win microeconomics.... -- Shamil From jimdettman at verizon.net Sun Jul 27 12:31:26 2008 From: jimdettman at verizon.net (Jim Dettman) Date: Sun, 27 Jul 2008 13:31:26 -0400 Subject: [AccessD] Another article some of you might like In-Reply-To: <05d701c8ef7f$d11aaad0$2f8601c7@SusanOne> References: <05d701c8ef7f$d11aaad0$2f8601c7@SusanOne> Message-ID: <009701c8f00e$99ae1430$8abea8c0@XPS> Susan, Nice article so I hate to point this out, but it seems to me you made a bit of a flub with #9. I know what you meant to say, but to me it doesn't come off that way: "Technically, Access is a file-server application and not a client-server application. That means that Access does all its processing on one server. Client-server applications process on both sides of the network. While that arrangement is more flexible, it also comes with overhead." First sentence is true, second and third are not. I would expect you might catch some flak on that. I would have also prefaced the article that when making the points you did, you were speaking about Access using JET as a database engine. But at least someone had the guts to publish something like that! Jim. -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Susan Harkins Sent: Saturday, July 26, 2008 8:29 PM To: AccessD at databaseadvisors.com Subject: [AccessD] Another article some of you might like ======It isn't necessary to leave a comment or vote, but thought you guys might enjoy the show. :) Susan H. -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From tinanfields at torchlake.com Sun Jul 27 13:43:35 2008 From: tinanfields at torchlake.com (Tina Norris Fields) Date: Sun, 27 Jul 2008 14:43:35 -0400 Subject: [AccessD] Form positioning another try Message-ID: <488CC1D7.4020900@torchlake.com> Hi, Didn't get anyone to bite on my previous query about this, so I'll try it a little different way. I have a form we'll call frmMyForm. I want it to be in a certain position 6000 twps from the left edge of the window and 1200 twps from the top edge of the window. If I put the DoCmd.MoveSize 6000, 1200 in the On Activate event of the form and call the form from some other form with a command button that has in its On Click event the DoCmd.OpenForm frmMyForm, all is well. The frmMyForm opens in the desired position. However, if I double-click the icon for frmMyForm in the Forms container, frmMyForm opens in a slightly higher position - about 400 twps higher, as a matter of fact. Why? I've tried my DoCmd.MoveSize in every event I can think of that should launch frmMyForm in the correct position - On Open, On Load, On Resize, On Current, On Activate, On GotFocus - no go. It works fine if called by code attached to some command button, but it does not work when the frmMyForm icon is double-clicked from the Forms container in the Database window. Why? What am I doing wrong here? Thanks for any assistance. Tina From Gustav at cactus.dk Sun Jul 27 14:10:03 2008 From: Gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock) Date: Sun, 27 Jul 2008 21:10:03 +0200 Subject: [AccessD] Form positioning another try Message-ID: Hi Tina That could be because thinks when opening it by double-clicking, that a top toolbar is not present which - when the form loads - it is. But what does it matter? Users don't double-click in the Forms container ... /gustav >>> tinanfields at torchlake.com 27-07-2008 20:43 >>> Hi, Didn't get anyone to bite on my previous query about this, so I'll try it a little different way. I have a form we'll call frmMyForm. I want it to be in a certain position 6000 twps from the left edge of the window and 1200 twps from the top edge of the window. If I put the DoCmd.MoveSize 6000, 1200 in the On Activate event of the form and call the form from some other form with a command button that has in its On Click event the DoCmd.OpenForm frmMyForm, all is well. The frmMyForm opens in the desired position. However, if I double-click the icon for frmMyForm in the Forms container, frmMyForm opens in a slightly higher position - about 400 twps higher, as a matter of fact. Why? I've tried my DoCmd.MoveSize in every event I can think of that should launch frmMyForm in the correct position - On Open, On Load, On Resize, On Current, On Activate, On GotFocus - no go. It works fine if called by code attached to some command button, but it does not work when the frmMyForm icon is double-clicked from the Forms container in the Database window. Why? What am I doing wrong here? Thanks for any assistance. Tina From tinanfields at torchlake.com Mon Jul 28 10:27:45 2008 From: tinanfields at torchlake.com (Tina Norris Fields) Date: Mon, 28 Jul 2008 11:27:45 -0400 Subject: [AccessD] Form positioning another try In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <488DE571.5080005@torchlake.com> Hi Gustav, You are right, users won't be double-clicking in the Forms container. But, when I make frmMyForm the startup form, it locates in the same place as when double-clicked from the Forms container. So, I am trying to understand what I must do to put this form in the position I want no matter how it is opened. Perhaps by putting first a splash form and calling my frmMyForm from that? Thanks for the thought about the presence of a top toolbar. Shouldn't I be able then to open and load the form (maybe with Application.Echo False so the screen doesn't jump around), then have the On Current or On GotFocus event relocate the form to the proper place? I haven't tried exactly that, so I will. Any other thoughts? Thank you, Tina Gustav Brock wrote: > Hi Tina > > That could be because thinks when opening it by double-clicking, that a top toolbar is not present which - when the form loads - it is. > > But what does it matter? Users don't double-click in the Forms container ... > > /gustav > > >>>> tinanfields at torchlake.com 27-07-2008 20:43 >>> >>>> > Hi, > > Didn't get anyone to bite on my previous query about this, so I'll try > it a little different way. > > I have a form we'll call frmMyForm. I want it to be in a certain > position 6000 twps from the left edge of the window and 1200 twps from > the top edge of the window. > > If I put the DoCmd.MoveSize 6000, 1200 in the On Activate event of the > form and call the form from some other form with a command button that > has in its On Click event the DoCmd.OpenForm frmMyForm, all is well. > The frmMyForm opens in the desired position. However, if I double-click > the icon for frmMyForm in the Forms container, frmMyForm opens in a > slightly higher position - about 400 twps higher, as a matter of fact. Why? > > I've tried my DoCmd.MoveSize in every event I can think of that should > launch frmMyForm in the correct position - On Open, On Load, On Resize, > On Current, On Activate, On GotFocus - no go. It works fine if called > by code attached to some command button, but it does not work when the > frmMyForm icon is double-clicked from the Forms container in the > Database window. Why? > > What am I doing wrong here? Thanks for any assistance. > > Tina > > > > From Gustav at cactus.dk Mon Jul 28 10:38:00 2008 From: Gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock) Date: Mon, 28 Jul 2008 17:38:00 +0200 Subject: [AccessD] Form positioning another try Message-ID: Hi Tina I don't know, it is years ago I dealt with this - to have forms positioned at 0,0 when opened. If a toolbar was not present the form would move to the top menu and then the toolbar of the form would be covering the top of the form. And vice versa. You could play with the timer of the form. Let 0.1 s pass after loading, then reposition the form and reset the timer? /gustav >>> tinanfields at torchlake.com 28-07-2008 17:27 >>> Hi Gustav, You are right, users won't be double-clicking in the Forms container. But, when I make frmMyForm the startup form, it locates in the same place as when double-clicked from the Forms container. So, I am trying to understand what I must do to put this form in the position I want no matter how it is opened. Perhaps by putting first a splash form and calling my frmMyForm from that? Thanks for the thought about the presence of a top toolbar. Shouldn't I be able then to open and load the form (maybe with Application.Echo False so the screen doesn't jump around), then have the On Current or On GotFocus event relocate the form to the proper place? I haven't tried exactly that, so I will. Any other thoughts? Thank you, Tina Gustav Brock wrote: > Hi Tina > > That could be because thinks when opening it by double-clicking, that a top toolbar is not present which - when the form loads - it is. > > But what does it matter? Users don't double-click in the Forms container ... > > /gustav > > >>>> tinanfields at torchlake.com 27-07-2008 20:43 >>> >>>> > Hi, > > Didn't get anyone to bite on my previous query about this, so I'll try > it a little different way. > > I have a form we'll call frmMyForm. I want it to be in a certain > position 6000 twps from the left edge of the window and 1200 twps from > the top edge of the window. > > If I put the DoCmd.MoveSize 6000, 1200 in the On Activate event of the > form and call the form from some other form with a command button that > has in its On Click event the DoCmd.OpenForm frmMyForm, all is well. > The frmMyForm opens in the desired position. However, if I double-click > the icon for frmMyForm in the Forms container, frmMyForm opens in a > slightly higher position - about 400 twps higher, as a matter of fact. Why? > > I've tried my DoCmd.MoveSize in every event I can think of that should > launch frmMyForm in the correct position - On Open, On Load, On Resize, > On Current, On Activate, On GotFocus - no go. It works fine if called > by code attached to some command button, but it does not work when the > frmMyForm icon is double-clicked from the Forms container in the > Database window. Why? > > What am I doing wrong here? Thanks for any assistance. > > Tina From dwaters at usinternet.com Mon Jul 28 14:43:27 2008 From: dwaters at usinternet.com (Dan Waters) Date: Mon, 28 Jul 2008 14:43:27 -0500 Subject: [AccessD] Default File Format Message-ID: In my library file, with is identical at each customer, is a SetOption method to set the Default File Format to Access 2000. The code is this: SetOption "Default File Format", acFileFormatAccess2000 However, I'm setting up a new customer who uses Access 2000, the above Option doesn't exist, and compiling fails. How can I set up a procedure which will ensure that this code line works in Access 2002 and 2003, and does compile in Access 2000? I tried to do something with late binding, but that didn't seem to work. Thanks! Dan From Lambert.Heenan at AIG.com Mon Jul 28 15:38:40 2008 From: Lambert.Heenan at AIG.com (Heenan, Lambert) Date: Mon, 28 Jul 2008 16:38:40 -0400 Subject: [AccessD] Default File Format Message-ID: <34C8A2AB1EF3564CB0D64DB6AFFDD5C217A7EECB@XLIVMBX35bkup.aig.com> In the problem module declare a compiler constant.... #Const ACCESS2000 = True Then further down in the module #if not ACCESS2000 SetOption "Default File Format", acFileFormatAccess2000 #End If You will have to set the compile constant to False for all the other users. Lambert -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Dan Waters Sent: Monday, July 28, 2008 3:43 PM To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' Subject: [AccessD] Default File Format In my library file, with is identical at each customer, is a SetOption method to set the Default File Format to Access 2000. The code is this: SetOption "Default File Format", acFileFormatAccess2000 However, I'm setting up a new customer who uses Access 2000, the above Option doesn't exist, and compiling fails. How can I set up a procedure which will ensure that this code line works in Access 2002 and 2003, and does compile in Access 2000? I tried to do something with late binding, but that didn't seem to work. Thanks! Dan -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From Lambert.Heenan at AIG.com Mon Jul 28 15:50:16 2008 From: Lambert.Heenan at AIG.com (Heenan, Lambert) Date: Mon, 28 Jul 2008 15:50:16 -0500 Subject: [AccessD] Default File Format Message-ID: <34C8A2AB1EF3564CB0D64DB6AFFDD5C217A7EED8@XLIVMBX35bkup.aig.com> Correction #if not ACCESS2000 SetOption "Default File Format", acFileFormatAccess2000 #End If -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Heenan, Lambert Sent: Monday, July 28, 2008 4:39 PM To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' Subject: Re: [AccessD] Default File Format In the problem module declare a compiler constant.... #Const ACCESS2000 = True Then further down in the module #if not ACCESS2000 SetOption "Default File Format", acFileFormatAccess2000 #End If You will have to set the compile constant to False for all the other users. Lambert -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Dan Waters Sent: Monday, July 28, 2008 3:43 PM To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' Subject: [AccessD] Default File Format In my library file, with is identical at each customer, is a SetOption method to set the Default File Format to Access 2000. The code is this: SetOption "Default File Format", acFileFormatAccess2000 However, I'm setting up a new customer who uses Access 2000, the above Option doesn't exist, and compiling fails. How can I set up a procedure which will ensure that this code line works in Access 2002 and 2003, and does compile in Access 2000? I tried to do something with late binding, but that didn't seem to work. Thanks! Dan -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From Lambert.Heenan at AIG.com Mon Jul 28 16:01:41 2008 From: Lambert.Heenan at AIG.com (Heenan, Lambert) Date: Mon, 28 Jul 2008 17:01:41 -0400 Subject: [AccessD] Default File Format Message-ID: <34C8A2AB1EF3564CB0D64DB6AFFDD5C217A7EEE2@XLIVMBX35bkup.aig.com> No difference huh? Just stupid "anti-word wrap". The #End If needs to be on a new line, just like I typed it in the first place. Lambert -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Heenan, Lambert Sent: Monday, July 28, 2008 4:50 PM To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' Subject: Re: [AccessD] Default File Format Correction #if not ACCESS2000 SetOption "Default File Format", acFileFormatAccess2000 #End If -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Heenan, Lambert Sent: Monday, July 28, 2008 4:39 PM To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' Subject: Re: [AccessD] Default File Format In the problem module declare a compiler constant.... #Const ACCESS2000 = True Then further down in the module #if not ACCESS2000 SetOption "Default File Format", acFileFormatAccess2000 #End If You will have to set the compile constant to False for all the other users. Lambert -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Dan Waters Sent: Monday, July 28, 2008 3:43 PM To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' Subject: [AccessD] Default File Format In my library file, with is identical at each customer, is a SetOption method to set the Default File Format to Access 2000. The code is this: SetOption "Default File Format", acFileFormatAccess2000 However, I'm setting up a new customer who uses Access 2000, the above Option doesn't exist, and compiling fails. How can I set up a procedure which will ensure that this code line works in Access 2002 and 2003, and does compile in Access 2000? I tried to do something with late binding, but that didn't seem to work. Thanks! Dan -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From wdhindman at dejpolsystems.com Mon Jul 28 17:31:52 2008 From: wdhindman at dejpolsystems.com (William Hindman) Date: Mon, 28 Jul 2008 18:31:52 -0400 Subject: [AccessD] Form positioning another try References: <488DE571.5080005@torchlake.com> Message-ID: <78413B8E7AEA4E59A375BA4E3A387180@jislaptopdev> Tina ...take a look at http://www.peterssoftware.com/winmanip.htm ...its a freebie module I've used for years now, heavily modified, but it should put you on the right track. William -------------------------------------------------- From: "Tina Norris Fields" Sent: Monday, July 28, 2008 11:27 AM To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving" Subject: Re: [AccessD] Form positioning another try > Hi Gustav, > > You are right, users won't be double-clicking in the Forms container. > But, when I make frmMyForm the startup form, it locates in the same > place as when double-clicked from the Forms container. So, I am trying > to understand what I must do to put this form in the position I want no > matter how it is opened. Perhaps by putting first a splash form and > calling my frmMyForm from that? > > Thanks for the thought about the presence of a top toolbar. Shouldn't I > be able then to open and load the form (maybe with Application.Echo > False so the screen doesn't jump around), then have the On Current or On > GotFocus event relocate the form to the proper place? I haven't tried > exactly that, so I will. > > Any other thoughts? Thank you, > Tina > > Gustav Brock wrote: >> Hi Tina >> >> That could be because thinks when opening it by double-clicking, that a >> top toolbar is not present which - when the form loads - it is. >> >> But what does it matter? Users don't double-click in the Forms container >> ... >> >> /gustav >> >> >>>>> tinanfields at torchlake.com 27-07-2008 20:43 >>> >>>>> >> Hi, >> >> Didn't get anyone to bite on my previous query about this, so I'll try >> it a little different way. >> >> I have a form we'll call frmMyForm. I want it to be in a certain >> position 6000 twps from the left edge of the window and 1200 twps from >> the top edge of the window. >> >> If I put the DoCmd.MoveSize 6000, 1200 in the On Activate event of the >> form and call the form from some other form with a command button that >> has in its On Click event the DoCmd.OpenForm frmMyForm, all is well. >> The frmMyForm opens in the desired position. However, if I double-click >> the icon for frmMyForm in the Forms container, frmMyForm opens in a >> slightly higher position - about 400 twps higher, as a matter of fact. >> Why? >> >> I've tried my DoCmd.MoveSize in every event I can think of that should >> launch frmMyForm in the correct position - On Open, On Load, On Resize, >> On Current, On Activate, On GotFocus - no go. It works fine if called >> by code attached to some command button, but it does not work when the >> frmMyForm icon is double-clicked from the Forms container in the >> Database window. Why? >> >> What am I doing wrong here? Thanks for any assistance. >> >> Tina >> >> >> >> > -- > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From tinanfields at torchlake.com Tue Jul 29 06:00:35 2008 From: tinanfields at torchlake.com (Tina Norris Fields) Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2008 07:00:35 -0400 Subject: [AccessD] Form positioning another try In-Reply-To: <78413B8E7AEA4E59A375BA4E3A387180@jislaptopdev> References: <488DE571.5080005@torchlake.com> <78413B8E7AEA4E59A375BA4E3A387180@jislaptopdev> Message-ID: <488EF853.1020206@torchlake.com> William, Thank you for this link. It is very useful, and I expect it will become a regular part of my tooklit, too. Thanks again. Tina William Hindman wrote: > Tina > > ...take a look at http://www.peterssoftware.com/winmanip.htm > ...its a freebie module I've used for years now, heavily modified, but it > should put you on the right track. > > William > > -------------------------------------------------- > From: "Tina Norris Fields" > Sent: Monday, July 28, 2008 11:27 AM > To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving" > > Subject: Re: [AccessD] Form positioning another try > > >> Hi Gustav, >> >> You are right, users won't be double-clicking in the Forms container. >> But, when I make frmMyForm the startup form, it locates in the same >> place as when double-clicked from the Forms container. So, I am trying >> to understand what I must do to put this form in the position I want no >> matter how it is opened. Perhaps by putting first a splash form and >> calling my frmMyForm from that? >> >> Thanks for the thought about the presence of a top toolbar. Shouldn't I >> be able then to open and load the form (maybe with Application.Echo >> False so the screen doesn't jump around), then have the On Current or On >> GotFocus event relocate the form to the proper place? I haven't tried >> exactly that, so I will. >> >> Any other thoughts? Thank you, >> Tina >> >> Gustav Brock wrote: >> >>> Hi Tina >>> >>> That could be because thinks when opening it by double-clicking, that a >>> top toolbar is not present which - when the form loads - it is. >>> >>> But what does it matter? Users don't double-click in the Forms container >>> ... >>> >>> /gustav >>> >>> >>> >>>>>> tinanfields at torchlake.com 27-07-2008 20:43 >>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>> Hi, >>> >>> Didn't get anyone to bite on my previous query about this, so I'll try >>> it a little different way. >>> >>> I have a form we'll call frmMyForm. I want it to be in a certain >>> position 6000 twps from the left edge of the window and 1200 twps from >>> the top edge of the window. >>> >>> If I put the DoCmd.MoveSize 6000, 1200 in the On Activate event of the >>> form and call the form from some other form with a command button that >>> has in its On Click event the DoCmd.OpenForm frmMyForm, all is well. >>> The frmMyForm opens in the desired position. However, if I double-click >>> the icon for frmMyForm in the Forms container, frmMyForm opens in a >>> slightly higher position - about 400 twps higher, as a matter of fact. >>> Why? >>> >>> I've tried my DoCmd.MoveSize in every event I can think of that should >>> launch frmMyForm in the correct position - On Open, On Load, On Resize, >>> On Current, On Activate, On GotFocus - no go. It works fine if called >>> by code attached to some command button, but it does not work when the >>> frmMyForm icon is double-clicked from the Forms container in the >>> Database window. Why? >>> >>> What am I doing wrong here? Thanks for any assistance. >>> >>> Tina >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >> -- >> AccessD mailing list >> AccessD at databaseadvisors.com >> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd >> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com >> > > > From fuller.artful at gmail.com Tue Jul 29 07:39:25 2008 From: fuller.artful at gmail.com (Arthur Fuller) Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2008 09:39:25 -0300 Subject: [AccessD] Streams Message-ID: <29f585dd0807290539u72871d84n583f9cf595b38dd2@mail.gmail.com> Please excuse the double post, but I'm unsure how to attack this. Also, please forgive my ignorance on this topic. As I understand it, a stream is essentially a file in memory rather than on disk (although I suppose that it could overflow available ram and end up in virtual memory, on disk). Although I have been doing some reading on the subject, I don't think that I grasp the essentials yet. Imagining a file in memory that is hooked to via a recordset, how does one peel off the records from the stream and write them to disk? I guess the important question here is, how do I peel the incoming records off, as in a FIFO stack operation? A secondary and unimportant (for work purposes) question is, how is a stream such as the input from BBC or CBC radio structured? Is the whole stream one giant record or is it somehow structured into many records? In the case at hand, the stream of interest is a Bloomberg stock prices stream. All these questions arise due to the fact that our star c#/c++ programmer had a stroke two days ago, and until we hire someone I have to go through his stuff and attempt to comprehend it. My job definition just got a lot bigger. TIA, Arthur From dwaters at usinternet.com Tue Jul 29 08:02:48 2008 From: dwaters at usinternet.com (Dan Waters) Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2008 08:02:48 -0500 Subject: [AccessD] Call Stack in VBA? In-Reply-To: <1eb901c8efd0$0c7b6ab0$6401a8c0@nant> References: <29f585dd0807251252w232c2d60v43fc76ec6c696330@mail.gmail.com> <1eb901c8efd0$0c7b6ab0$6401a8c0@nant> Message-ID: Hi Shamil, Even though you did this ten years ago, it's still quite a bit above my current knowledge. Using your instructions, I'll try to set it up in the next few weeks - and if I have questions I'll ask! Thanks! Dan -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Shamil Salakhetdinov Sent: Sunday, July 27, 2008 5:04 AM To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' Subject: Re: [AccessD] Call Stack in VBA? Hi Dan and Arthur, I looked in my archives and I have found the add-in and the support library for it... I have published support library here: http://smsconsulting.spb.ru/download/addins/SMSProfilerLIB.zip It's VB6 project, which can be compiled into ActiveX DLL, and the latter can be used with MS Access... The source VB6 code of this library can be also put into MS Access library mdb... Sorry, this is almost ten years old code - it seems to be clean and streamlined but not commented well enough... As for add-in generating calls to profile/trace library - this part of code have to be additionally worked through as it has some proprietary code with I signed NDA for - and I have to clean it up... But you still can use the referred above library/source code to get tracing obtained and stored in XMl file - see sample in P.S. - the download link also has this sample. There are quite some stuff developed here on subject - maybe you Dan and Arthur and Susan(?) will be interested to team up and write an article/some articles on this subject of VBA profiling/tracing if that is still interesting? And I'd act as provider of some advanced code on the subject - OK? :) Thank you. -- Shamil P.S. Here is how tracing can be implemented/tested using the above lib - be careful with passing/saving object references to trace object as these references could keep their objects "live" until program quits - that have to be checked... Option Compare Database Option Explicit #Const TRACE_PROC_CALLS = 1 Public Const APP_NAME As String = "TEST_VBA_TRACING" Private Const mcstrModuleName As String = "basTestTracingProfiling" Private Const MAX_INDEX As Integer = 3 Public Function testTracing() ' inti tracing/profiling smsProfilerLib.Trace.Init ' --- Test call --- Dim index As Integer For index = 1 To MAX_INDEX TestCallLevel1 "Hello, World!", index Next index ' --- end of test call -- ' reset tracing/profiling smsProfilerLib.Trace.Reset End Function Private Property Get xmlFileFullPath() As String xmlFileFullPath = CurrentProject.Path + "\profile.xml" End Property Public Sub TestCallLevel1(helloWorld As String, index As Integer) '#region this code block can be generated/removed by add-in Const cstrProcName As String = "TestCallLevel1" #If TRACE_PROC_CALLS Then Dim objTrace As Object Set objTrace = GetNewTraceObject(APP_NAME, _ mcstrModuleName, _ cstrProcName, _ "helloWorld(String)", helloWorld, _ "index(Integer)", index) #End If '#end region Dim dbs As DAO.Database Set dbs = CurrentDb TestCallLevel2 dbs, index End Sub Public Sub TestCallLevel2(ByRef rdbs As DAO.Database, ByVal index As Integer) '#region this code block can be generated/removed by add-in Const cstrProcName As String = "TestCallLevel2" #If TRACE_PROC_CALLS Then Dim objTrace As Object Set objTrace = GetNewTraceObject(APP_NAME, _ mcstrModuleName, _ cstrProcName, _ "rdbs(DAO.Database)", rdbs, _ "index(Integer)", index _ ) #End If '#end region If index = MAX_INDEX Then ' store collected tracing/profiling in XML smsProfilerLib.Trace.Store xmlFileFullPath, 1 End If End Sub -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Arthur Fuller Sent: Friday, July 25, 2008 11:52 PM To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving Subject: Re: [AccessD] Call Stack in VBA? I second that. Arthur On Fri, Jul 25, 2008 at 3:38 PM, Dan Waters wrote: > As for 100 developers world wide who would want this, I'm sure they exist. > Two of them are here - me and Arthur! But for the rest, there would need > to > be a way to advertise it's existence. > > Does anyone know of a good place to advertise or look for good Access > utilities and add-in's? > > Thanks! > Dan > -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From Lambert.Heenan at AIG.com Tue Jul 29 08:48:16 2008 From: Lambert.Heenan at AIG.com (Heenan, Lambert) Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2008 08:48:16 -0500 Subject: [AccessD] Default File Format Message-ID: <34C8A2AB1EF3564CB0D64DB6AFFDD5C217A7EFC2@XLIVMBX35bkup.aig.com> P.S. You can also set conditional compiler constant in the VBA IDE, see http://support.microsoft.com/kb/274324 By doing so you can compile the same code base into different versions without needing to touch the actual code modules. Lambert -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Heenan, Lambert Sent: Monday, July 28, 2008 5:02 PM To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' Subject: Re: [AccessD] Default File Format No difference huh? Just stupid "anti-word wrap". The #End If needs to be on a new line, just like I typed it in the first place. Lambert -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Heenan, Lambert Sent: Monday, July 28, 2008 4:50 PM To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' Subject: Re: [AccessD] Default File Format Correction #if not ACCESS2000 SetOption "Default File Format", acFileFormatAccess2000 #End If -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Heenan, Lambert Sent: Monday, July 28, 2008 4:39 PM To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' Subject: Re: [AccessD] Default File Format In the problem module declare a compiler constant.... #Const ACCESS2000 = True Then further down in the module #if not ACCESS2000 SetOption "Default File Format", acFileFormatAccess2000 #End If You will have to set the compile constant to False for all the other users. Lambert -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Dan Waters Sent: Monday, July 28, 2008 3:43 PM To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' Subject: [AccessD] Default File Format In my library file, with is identical at each customer, is a SetOption method to set the Default File Format to Access 2000. The code is this: SetOption "Default File Format", acFileFormatAccess2000 However, I'm setting up a new customer who uses Access 2000, the above Option doesn't exist, and compiling fails. How can I set up a procedure which will ensure that this code line works in Access 2002 and 2003, and does compile in Access 2000? I tried to do something with late binding, but that didn't seem to work. Thanks! Dan -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From dwaters at usinternet.com Tue Jul 29 10:18:32 2008 From: dwaters at usinternet.com (Dan Waters) Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2008 10:18:32 -0500 Subject: [AccessD] Default File Format In-Reply-To: <34C8A2AB1EF3564CB0D64DB6AFFDD5C217A7EFC2@XLIVMBX35bkup.aig.com> References: <34C8A2AB1EF3564CB0D64DB6AFFDD5C217A7EFC2@XLIVMBX35bkup.aig.com> Message-ID: <47388B7220994D9B8572BB33F1AC2319@danwaters> Hi Lambert - thanks for your help. I don't know whether to be angry or happy - I've been developing for 10 years and didn't know this could be done. Anyway, this is what is now working in Access 2000 and in Access 2003: lngAccessVersion = CLng(SysCmd(acSysCmdAccessVer)) #If lngAccessVersion > 9 Then SetOption "Default File Format", acFileFormatAccess2000 #End If When I walk through this code in Access 2000, the cursor completely skips the three lines bounded by #. Thanks Again! Dan -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Heenan, Lambert Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2008 8:48 AM To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' Subject: Re: [AccessD] Default File Format P.S. You can also set conditional compiler constant in the VBA IDE, see http://support.microsoft.com/kb/274324 By doing so you can compile the same code base into different versions without needing to touch the actual code modules. Lambert -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Heenan, Lambert Sent: Monday, July 28, 2008 5:02 PM To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' Subject: Re: [AccessD] Default File Format No difference huh? Just stupid "anti-word wrap". The #End If needs to be on a new line, just like I typed it in the first place. Lambert -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Heenan, Lambert Sent: Monday, July 28, 2008 4:50 PM To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' Subject: Re: [AccessD] Default File Format Correction #if not ACCESS2000 SetOption "Default File Format", acFileFormatAccess2000 #End If -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Heenan, Lambert Sent: Monday, July 28, 2008 4:39 PM To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' Subject: Re: [AccessD] Default File Format In the problem module declare a compiler constant.... #Const ACCESS2000 = True Then further down in the module #if not ACCESS2000 SetOption "Default File Format", acFileFormatAccess2000 #End If You will have to set the compile constant to False for all the other users. Lambert -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Dan Waters Sent: Monday, July 28, 2008 3:43 PM To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' Subject: [AccessD] Default File Format In my library file, with is identical at each customer, is a SetOption method to set the Default File Format to Access 2000. The code is this: SetOption "Default File Format", acFileFormatAccess2000 However, I'm setting up a new customer who uses Access 2000, the above Option doesn't exist, and compiling fails. How can I set up a procedure which will ensure that this code line works in Access 2002 and 2003, and does compile in Access 2000? I tried to do something with late binding, but that didn't seem to work. Thanks! Dan -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From Lambert.Heenan at AIG.com Tue Jul 29 10:35:39 2008 From: Lambert.Heenan at AIG.com (Heenan, Lambert) Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2008 11:35:39 -0400 Subject: [AccessD] Default File Format Message-ID: <34C8A2AB1EF3564CB0D64DB6AFFDD5C217A7F07A@XLIVMBX35bkup.aig.com> Believe it or not I had thought of using SysCmd(acSysCmdAccessVer)too, but I dismissed that as I was thinking along the lines of lngAccessVersion = CLng(SysCmd(acSysCmdAccessVer)) If lngAccessVersion > 9 Then SetOption "Default File Format", acFileFormatAccess2000 End If This of course would not work because the compiler would still see and attempt to parse the offending constant name, but "#if" is a compiler directive, not a VBA control structure, so it does work. It's saying to the compiler "don't even look here it the version number is less than 9". Glad to help in my roundabout way. Lambert -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Dan Waters Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2008 11:19 AM To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' Subject: Re: [AccessD] Default File Format Hi Lambert - thanks for your help. I don't know whether to be angry or happy - I've been developing for 10 years and didn't know this could be done. Anyway, this is what is now working in Access 2000 and in Access 2003: lngAccessVersion = CLng(SysCmd(acSysCmdAccessVer)) #If lngAccessVersion > 9 Then SetOption "Default File Format", acFileFormatAccess2000 #End If When I walk through this code in Access 2000, the cursor completely skips the three lines bounded by #. Thanks Again! Dan -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Heenan, Lambert Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2008 8:48 AM To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' Subject: Re: [AccessD] Default File Format P.S. You can also set conditional compiler constant in the VBA IDE, see http://support.microsoft.com/kb/274324 By doing so you can compile the same code base into different versions without needing to touch the actual code modules. Lambert -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Heenan, Lambert Sent: Monday, July 28, 2008 5:02 PM To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' Subject: Re: [AccessD] Default File Format No difference huh? Just stupid "anti-word wrap". The #End If needs to be on a new line, just like I typed it in the first place. Lambert -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Heenan, Lambert Sent: Monday, July 28, 2008 4:50 PM To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' Subject: Re: [AccessD] Default File Format Correction #if not ACCESS2000 SetOption "Default File Format", acFileFormatAccess2000 #End If -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Heenan, Lambert Sent: Monday, July 28, 2008 4:39 PM To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' Subject: Re: [AccessD] Default File Format In the problem module declare a compiler constant.... #Const ACCESS2000 = True Then further down in the module #if not ACCESS2000 SetOption "Default File Format", acFileFormatAccess2000 #End If You will have to set the compile constant to False for all the other users. Lambert -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Dan Waters Sent: Monday, July 28, 2008 3:43 PM To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' Subject: [AccessD] Default File Format In my library file, with is identical at each customer, is a SetOption method to set the Default File Format to Access 2000. The code is this: SetOption "Default File Format", acFileFormatAccess2000 However, I'm setting up a new customer who uses Access 2000, the above Option doesn't exist, and compiling fails. How can I set up a procedure which will ensure that this code line works in Access 2002 and 2003, and does compile in Access 2000? I tried to do something with late binding, but that didn't seem to work. Thanks! Dan -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From jengross at gte.net Tue Jul 29 13:43:11 2008 From: jengross at gte.net (Jennifer Gross) Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2008 10:43:11 -0800 Subject: [AccessD] String - strip off leading zeros Message-ID: <0K4S00AVH42C2HJ3@vms042.mailsrvcs.net> Good Morning, Does anyone have a quick function for stripping off leading zeros on a string. I am working with product codes, getting data from different sources, some use leading zeros - anywhere from 1 to 5. So, depending on which source the data came from, the same product code could be represented as 1234ABC 01234ABC 001234ABC 0001234ABC etc. Thanks in advance, Jennifer From Lambert.Heenan at AIG.com Tue Jul 29 13:08:42 2008 From: Lambert.Heenan at AIG.com (Heenan, Lambert) Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2008 14:08:42 -0400 Subject: [AccessD] String - strip off leading zeros Message-ID: <34C8A2AB1EF3564CB0D64DB6AFFDD5C217A7F124@XLIVMBX35bkup.aig.com> This will do the trick... Function StripLeadingZeros(strData As String) As String Dim n As Long If Left(strData, 1) = "0" Then StripLeadingZeros = StripLeadingZeros(Mid(strData, 2)) Else StripLeadingZeros = strData End If End Function Lambert -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jennifer Gross Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2008 2:43 PM To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' Subject: [AccessD] String - strip off leading zeros Good Morning, Does anyone have a quick function for stripping off leading zeros on a string. I am working with product codes, getting data from different sources, some use leading zeros - anywhere from 1 to 5. So, depending on which source the data came from, the same product code could be represented as 1234ABC 01234ABC 001234ABC 0001234ABC etc. Thanks in advance, Jennifer -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From jengross at gte.net Tue Jul 29 14:33:47 2008 From: jengross at gte.net (Jennifer Gross) Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2008 11:33:47 -0800 Subject: [AccessD] String - strip off leading zeros In-Reply-To: <34C8A2AB1EF3564CB0D64DB6AFFDD5C217A7F124@XLIVMBX35bkup.aig.com> Message-ID: <0K4S007N76ELA187@vms173003.mailsrvcs.net> Brilliant Lambert. Thank you. Jennifer -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Heenan, Lambert Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2008 10:09 AM To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' Subject: Re: [AccessD] String - strip off leading zeros This will do the trick... Function StripLeadingZeros(strData As String) As String Dim n As Long If Left(strData, 1) = "0" Then StripLeadingZeros = StripLeadingZeros(Mid(strData, 2)) Else StripLeadingZeros = strData End If End Function Lambert -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jennifer Gross Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2008 2:43 PM To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' Subject: [AccessD] String - strip off leading zeros Good Morning, Does anyone have a quick function for stripping off leading zeros on a string. I am working with product codes, getting data from different sources, some use leading zeros - anywhere from 1 to 5. So, depending on which source the data came from, the same product code could be represented as 1234ABC 01234ABC 001234ABC 0001234ABC etc. Thanks in advance, Jennifer -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From Lambert.Heenan at AIG.com Tue Jul 29 13:52:04 2008 From: Lambert.Heenan at AIG.com (Heenan, Lambert) Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2008 14:52:04 -0400 Subject: [AccessD] String - strip off leading zeros Message-ID: <34C8A2AB1EF3564CB0D64DB6AFFDD5C217A7F15C@XLIVMBX35bkup.aig.com> Any time. Here's an extension of the idea that can be used to strip any leading character you choose. Function StripLeadingZeros(strData As String, strChar as String) As String Dim n As Long If Left(strData, 1) = strChar Then StripLeadingZeros = StripLeadingZeros(Mid(strData, 2)) Else StripLeadingZeros = strData End If End Function Lambert -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jennifer Gross Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2008 3:34 PM To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' Subject: Re: [AccessD] String - strip off leading zeros Brilliant Lambert. Thank you. Jennifer -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Heenan, Lambert Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2008 10:09 AM To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' Subject: Re: [AccessD] String - strip off leading zeros This will do the trick... Function StripLeadingZeros(strData As String) As String Dim n As Long If Left(strData, 1) = "0" Then StripLeadingZeros = StripLeadingZeros(Mid(strData, 2)) Else StripLeadingZeros = strData End If End Function Lambert -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jennifer Gross Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2008 2:43 PM To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' Subject: [AccessD] String - strip off leading zeros Good Morning, Does anyone have a quick function for stripping off leading zeros on a string. I am working with product codes, getting data from different sources, some use leading zeros - anywhere from 1 to 5. So, depending on which source the data came from, the same product code could be represented as 1234ABC 01234ABC 001234ABC 0001234ABC etc. Thanks in advance, Jennifer -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From Lambert.Heenan at AIG.com Tue Jul 29 13:53:44 2008 From: Lambert.Heenan at AIG.com (Heenan, Lambert) Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2008 14:53:44 -0400 Subject: [AccessD] String - strip off leading zeros Message-ID: <34C8A2AB1EF3564CB0D64DB6AFFDD5C217A7F15D@XLIVMBX35bkup.aig.com> Of course I should have renamed the function... Any time. Here's an extension of the idea that can be used to strip any leading character you choose. Function StripLeadingChar(strData As String, strChar as String) As String Dim n As Long If Left(strData, 1) = strChar Then StripLeadingChar = StripLeadingChar(Mid(strData, 2)) Else StripLeadingChar = strData End If End Function Lambert -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jennifer Gross Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2008 3:34 PM To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' Subject: Re: [AccessD] String - strip off leading zeros Brilliant Lambert. Thank you. Jennifer -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Heenan, Lambert Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2008 10:09 AM To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' Subject: Re: [AccessD] String - strip off leading zeros This will do the trick... Function StripLeadingZeros(strData As String) As String Dim n As Long If Left(strData, 1) = "0" Then StripLeadingZeros = StripLeadingZeros(Mid(strData, 2)) Else StripLeadingZeros = strData End If End Function Lambert -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jennifer Gross Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2008 2:43 PM To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' Subject: [AccessD] String - strip off leading zeros Good Morning, Does anyone have a quick function for stripping off leading zeros on a string. I am working with product codes, getting data from different sources, some use leading zeros - anywhere from 1 to 5. So, depending on which source the data came from, the same product code could be represented as 1234ABC 01234ABC 001234ABC 0001234ABC etc. Thanks in advance, Jennifer -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From jengross at gte.net Tue Jul 29 14:57:21 2008 From: jengross at gte.net (Jennifer Gross) Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2008 11:57:21 -0800 Subject: [AccessD] String - strip off leading zeros In-Reply-To: <34C8A2AB1EF3564CB0D64DB6AFFDD5C217A7F15D@XLIVMBX35bkup.aig.com> Message-ID: <0K4S00M5C7HX4GR3@vms173005.mailsrvcs.net> Lambert, You are not using n. Is there a reason why you Dim it? Jennifer -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Heenan, Lambert Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2008 10:54 AM To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' Subject: Re: [AccessD] String - strip off leading zeros Of course I should have renamed the function... Any time. Here's an extension of the idea that can be used to strip any leading character you choose. Function StripLeadingChar(strData As String, strChar as String) As String Dim n As Long If Left(strData, 1) = strChar Then StripLeadingChar = StripLeadingChar(Mid(strData, 2)) Else StripLeadingChar = strData End If End Function Lambert -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jennifer Gross Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2008 3:34 PM To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' Subject: Re: [AccessD] String - strip off leading zeros Brilliant Lambert. Thank you. Jennifer -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Heenan, Lambert Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2008 10:09 AM To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' Subject: Re: [AccessD] String - strip off leading zeros This will do the trick... Function StripLeadingZeros(strData As String) As String Dim n As Long If Left(strData, 1) = "0" Then StripLeadingZeros = StripLeadingZeros(Mid(strData, 2)) Else StripLeadingZeros = strData End If End Function Lambert -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jennifer Gross Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2008 2:43 PM To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' Subject: [AccessD] String - strip off leading zeros Good Morning, Does anyone have a quick function for stripping off leading zeros on a string. I am working with product codes, getting data from different sources, some use leading zeros - anywhere from 1 to 5. So, depending on which source the data came from, the same product code could be represented as 1234ABC 01234ABC 001234ABC 0001234ABC etc. Thanks in advance, Jennifer -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From Lambert.Heenan at AIG.com Tue Jul 29 14:14:28 2008 From: Lambert.Heenan at AIG.com (Heenan, Lambert) Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2008 15:14:28 -0400 Subject: [AccessD] String - strip off leading zeros Message-ID: <34C8A2AB1EF3564CB0D64DB6AFFDD5C217A7F178@XLIVMBX35bkup.aig.com> Just brain fade. I *was* going to write a Do While loop, but then I figured a recursive call would work just as well. Lambert -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jennifer Gross Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2008 3:57 PM To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' Subject: Re: [AccessD] String - strip off leading zeros Lambert, You are not using n. Is there a reason why you Dim it? Jennifer -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Heenan, Lambert Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2008 10:54 AM To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' Subject: Re: [AccessD] String - strip off leading zeros Of course I should have renamed the function... Any time. Here's an extension of the idea that can be used to strip any leading character you choose. Function StripLeadingChar(strData As String, strChar as String) As String Dim n As Long If Left(strData, 1) = strChar Then StripLeadingChar = StripLeadingChar(Mid(strData, 2)) Else StripLeadingChar = strData End If End Function Lambert -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jennifer Gross Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2008 3:34 PM To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' Subject: Re: [AccessD] String - strip off leading zeros Brilliant Lambert. Thank you. Jennifer -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Heenan, Lambert Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2008 10:09 AM To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' Subject: Re: [AccessD] String - strip off leading zeros This will do the trick... Function StripLeadingZeros(strData As String) As String Dim n As Long If Left(strData, 1) = "0" Then StripLeadingZeros = StripLeadingZeros(Mid(strData, 2)) Else StripLeadingZeros = strData End If End Function Lambert -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jennifer Gross Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2008 2:43 PM To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' Subject: [AccessD] String - strip off leading zeros Good Morning, Does anyone have a quick function for stripping off leading zeros on a string. I am working with product codes, getting data from different sources, some use leading zeros - anywhere from 1 to 5. So, depending on which source the data came from, the same product code could be represented as 1234ABC 01234ABC 001234ABC 0001234ABC etc. Thanks in advance, Jennifer -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From shamil at smsconsulting.spb.ru Tue Jul 29 13:20:04 2008 From: shamil at smsconsulting.spb.ru (Shamil Salakhetdinov) Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2008 22:20:04 +0400 Subject: [AccessD] Streams In-Reply-To: <29f585dd0807290539u72871d84n583f9cf595b38dd2@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <206301c8f1a7$bacda190$6401a8c0@nant> Hi Arthur, Here is some initial information, which looks useful: http://all-streaming-media.com/streaming-media-faq/faq-download-record-BBC-r adio-real-audio-streams.htm http://all-streaming-media.com/faq/recording-media-stream/faq-get-media-stre am-URL.htm I'm looking now for some other more useful for immediate programming in C#... -- Shamil -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Arthur Fuller Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2008 4:39 PM To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving; Discussion concerning MS SQL Server Subject: [AccessD] Streams Please excuse the double post, but I'm unsure how to attack this. Also, please forgive my ignorance on this topic. As I understand it, a stream is essentially a file in memory rather than on disk (although I suppose that it could overflow available ram and end up in virtual memory, on disk). Although I have been doing some reading on the subject, I don't think that I grasp the essentials yet. Imagining a file in memory that is hooked to via a recordset, how does one peel off the records from the stream and write them to disk? I guess the important question here is, how do I peel the incoming records off, as in a FIFO stack operation? A secondary and unimportant (for work purposes) question is, how is a stream such as the input from BBC or CBC radio structured? Is the whole stream one giant record or is it somehow structured into many records? In the case at hand, the stream of interest is a Bloomberg stock prices stream. All these questions arise due to the fact that our star c#/c++ programmer had a stroke two days ago, and until we hire someone I have to go through his stuff and attempt to comprehend it. My job definition just got a lot bigger. TIA, Arthur -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From fuller.artful at gmail.com Tue Jul 29 14:34:21 2008 From: fuller.artful at gmail.com (Arthur Fuller) Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2008 16:34:21 -0300 Subject: [AccessD] Streams In-Reply-To: <206301c8f1a7$bacda190$6401a8c0@nant> References: <29f585dd0807290539u72871d84n583f9cf595b38dd2@mail.gmail.com> <206301c8f1a7$bacda190$6401a8c0@nant> Message-ID: <29f585dd0807291234w8e1fef9y18f20a3512fd01a4@mail.gmail.com> Thanks. I will look into these URLs when I get home tonight. A. On Tue, Jul 29, 2008 at 3:20 PM, Shamil Salakhetdinov < shamil at smsconsulting.spb.ru> wrote: > Hi Arthur, > > Here is some initial information, which looks useful: > > > http://all-streaming-media.com/streaming-media-faq/faq-download-record-BBC-r > adio-real-audio-streams.htm > > > http://all-streaming-media.com/faq/recording-media-stream/faq-get-media-stre > am-URL.htm > > I'm looking now for some other more useful for immediate programming in > C#... > > -- > Shamil > From rockysmolin at bchacc.com Tue Jul 29 14:45:51 2008 From: rockysmolin at bchacc.com (Rocky Smolin at Beach Access Software) Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2008 12:45:51 -0700 Subject: [AccessD] Data Has Been Changed Message-ID: <03bb01c8f1b3$b4d691a0$0301a8c0@HAL9005> Dear List: I'm updating a field on different form that the one I'm on using: Forms!Matters!MatterActionsSubform!DueDate = Me.ActionDate and I get an error 7878 Data has been changed. If I debug and hit F5 it carries on OK and updates the field in the target form. But I can't find much about this 7878 or how to work around the problem. Does anyone have any experience with this error? MTIA Rocky Smolin Beach Access Software 858-259-4334 www.e-z-mrp.com www.bchacc.com From fuller.artful at gmail.com Tue Jul 29 15:25:25 2008 From: fuller.artful at gmail.com (Arthur Fuller) Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2008 17:25:25 -0300 Subject: [AccessD] Has Record Changed? Message-ID: <29f585dd0807291325u73b285ekffb4777904c1b3c9@mail.gmail.com> The form presents the data in read-only fashion. There's a button to click if you want to edit the data. That button enables and unlocks all the controls. The user changes nothing and clicks Save. How can I determine whether anything has changed? (The reason I need to know this is that the current code updates two fields, LastUpdate and UserName, when you click Save, and I want to circumvent this if nothing has changed. TIA, Arthur From andy at minstersystems.co.uk Tue Jul 29 15:33:48 2008 From: andy at minstersystems.co.uk (Andy Lacey) Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2008 21:33:48 +0100 Subject: [AccessD] Has Record Changed? In-Reply-To: <29f585dd0807291325u73b285ekffb4777904c1b3c9@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1FC0B261D5F54F5B86CAE90E2758BFA6@minster33c3r25> Hi Arthur Assuming it's a bound form then If Me.Dirty Then...... achieves this. -- Andy Lacey http://www.minstersystems.co.uk >-----Original Message----- >From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com >[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of >Arthur Fuller >Sent: 29 July 2008 21:25 >To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving >Subject: [AccessD] Has Record Changed? > > >The form presents the data in read-only fashion. There's a >button to click if you want to edit the data. That button >enables and unlocks all the controls. The user changes nothing >and clicks Save. How can I determine whether anything has >changed? (The reason I need to know this is that the current >code updates two fields, LastUpdate and UserName, when you >click Save, and I want to circumvent this if nothing has changed. > >TIA, >Arthur >-- >AccessD mailing list >AccessD at databaseadvisors.com >http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd >Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > From stephen at bondsoftware.co.nz Tue Jul 29 16:17:13 2008 From: stephen at bondsoftware.co.nz (Stephen) Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2008 09:17:13 +1200 Subject: [AccessD] Data Has Been Changed Message-ID: <569E08FC48047F4F848850B118195FBE01A1EF@server.BondSoftware.local> >From long ago in the mind's recesses, 7878 was the error code for 'another user has saved changes to this record while you were looking at it', and then (iirc) only when the locking scheme is Optimistic. In A97 I believe the dialog box suggested you the click OK to refresh. But it was all long ago ... and I seem to remember this message sometimes when I was the only person anywhere near the database. Stephen Bond -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Rocky Smolin at Beach Access Software Sent: Wednesday, 30 July 2008 8:01 a.m. To: Stephen Subject: [AccessD] Data Has Been Changed Dear List: I'm updating a field on different form that the one I'm on using: Forms!Matters!MatterActionsSubform!DueDate = Me.ActionDate and I get an error 7878 Data has been changed. If I debug and hit F5 it carries on OK and updates the field in the target form. But I can't find much about this 7878 or how to work around the problem. Does anyone have any experience with this error? MTIA Rocky Smolin Beach Access Software 858-259-4334 www.e-z-mrp.com www.bchacc.com -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From robert at servicexp.com Tue Jul 29 16:21:07 2008 From: robert at servicexp.com (Robert) Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2008 17:21:07 -0400 Subject: [AccessD] Data Has Been Changed In-Reply-To: <03bb01c8f1b3$b4d691a0$0301a8c0@HAL9005> References: <03bb01c8f1b3$b4d691a0$0301a8c0@HAL9005> Message-ID: <000601c8f1c1$04fc39c0$0ef4ad40$@com> Rocky, Does saving (.Dirty = False) the record before updating work? WBR ~Robert -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Rocky Smolin at Beach Access Software Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2008 3:46 PM To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' Subject: [AccessD] Data Has Been Changed Dear List: I'm updating a field on different form that the one I'm on using: Forms!Matters!MatterActionsSubform!DueDate = Me.ActionDate and I get an error 7878 Data has been changed. If I debug and hit F5 it carries on OK and updates the field in the target form. But I can't find much about this 7878 or how to work around the problem. Does anyone have any experience with this error? MTIA Rocky Smolin Beach Access Software 858-259-4334 www.e-z-mrp.com www.bchacc.com -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From fuller.artful at gmail.com Tue Jul 29 17:04:15 2008 From: fuller.artful at gmail.com (Arthur Fuller) Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2008 19:04:15 -0300 Subject: [AccessD] Has Record Changed? In-Reply-To: <1FC0B261D5F54F5B86CAE90E2758BFA6@minster33c3r25> References: <29f585dd0807291325u73b285ekffb4777904c1b3c9@mail.gmail.com> <1FC0B261D5F54F5B86CAE90E2758BFA6@minster33c3r25> Message-ID: <29f585dd0807291504u457a6e98n6223713e1b1541ce@mail.gmail.com> Thanks, Andy! Arthur On Tue, Jul 29, 2008 at 5:33 PM, Andy Lacey wrote: > Hi Arthur > Assuming it's a bound form then > > If Me.Dirty Then...... > > achieves this. > > -- Andy Lacey From rockysmolin at bchacc.com Tue Jul 29 17:13:50 2008 From: rockysmolin at bchacc.com (Rocky Smolin at Beach Access Software) Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2008 15:13:50 -0700 Subject: [AccessD] Has Record Changed? In-Reply-To: <29f585dd0807291325u73b285ekffb4777904c1b3c9@mail.gmail.com> References: <29f585dd0807291325u73b285ekffb4777904c1b3c9@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <03d701c8f1c8$616a0370$0301a8c0@HAL9005> If they're all bound controls would the Dirty property tell you? Rocky Smolin Beach Access Software 858-259-4334 www.e-z-mrp.com www.bchacc.com -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Arthur Fuller Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2008 1:25 PM To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving Subject: [AccessD] Has Record Changed? The form presents the data in read-only fashion. There's a button to click if you want to edit the data. That button enables and unlocks all the controls. The user changes nothing and clicks Save. How can I determine whether anything has changed? (The reason I need to know this is that the current code updates two fields, LastUpdate and UserName, when you click Save, and I want to circumvent this if nothing has changed. TIA, Arthur -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From rockysmolin at bchacc.com Tue Jul 29 17:31:11 2008 From: rockysmolin at bchacc.com (Rocky Smolin at Beach Access Software) Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2008 15:31:11 -0700 Subject: [AccessD] Data Has Been Changed In-Reply-To: <000601c8f1c1$04fc39c0$0ef4ad40$@com> References: <03bb01c8f1b3$b4d691a0$0301a8c0@HAL9005> <000601c8f1c1$04fc39c0$0ef4ad40$@com> Message-ID: <03eb01c8f1ca$cda80e90$0301a8c0@HAL9005> It gets a little more complicated here. The field I changed in Form A is also bound in Form B. So I need to save the record in form B from Form A. Don't know how to do that. DoCmd.RunCommand acSaveRecord only works for the form it's in. I suppose I could put the DoCmd into a module in Form B and call it from Form A. But that seems a little kludgey. I worked around it by doing a Requery from A to B but that's not a good solution. (I don't even know why it worked.) Rocky Smolin Beach Access Software 858-259-4334 www.e-z-mrp.com www.bchacc.com -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Robert Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2008 2:21 PM To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' Subject: Re: [AccessD] Data Has Been Changed Rocky, Does saving (.Dirty = False) the record before updating work? WBR ~Robert -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Rocky Smolin at Beach Access Software Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2008 3:46 PM To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' Subject: [AccessD] Data Has Been Changed Dear List: I'm updating a field on different form that the one I'm on using: Forms!Matters!MatterActionsSubform!DueDate = Me.ActionDate and I get an error 7878 Data has been changed. If I debug and hit F5 it carries on OK and updates the field in the target form. But I can't find much about this 7878 or how to work around the problem. Does anyone have any experience with this error? MTIA Rocky Smolin Beach Access Software 858-259-4334 www.e-z-mrp.com www.bchacc.com -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From robert at servicexp.com Tue Jul 29 17:53:37 2008 From: robert at servicexp.com (Robert) Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2008 18:53:37 -0400 Subject: [AccessD] Data Has Been Changed In-Reply-To: <03eb01c8f1ca$cda80e90$0301a8c0@HAL9005> References: <03bb01c8f1b3$b4d691a0$0301a8c0@HAL9005> <000601c8f1c1$04fc39c0$0ef4ad40$@com> <03eb01c8f1ca$cda80e90$0301a8c0@HAL9005> Message-ID: <001001c8f1cd$f0b543a0$d21fcae0$@com> Rocky Try Form_Matters.MatterActionsSubform.Form.Dirty = False WBR ~ Robert -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Rocky Smolin at Beach Access Software Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2008 6:31 PM To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' Subject: Re: [AccessD] Data Has Been Changed It gets a little more complicated here. The field I changed in Form A is also bound in Form B. So I need to save the record in form B from Form A. Don't know how to do that. DoCmd.RunCommand acSaveRecord only works for the form it's in. I suppose I could put the DoCmd into a module in Form B and call it from Form A. But that seems a little kludgey. I worked around it by doing a Requery from A to B but that's not a good solution. (I don't even know why it worked.) Rocky Smolin Beach Access Software 858-259-4334 www.e-z-mrp.com www.bchacc.com -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Robert Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2008 2:21 PM To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' Subject: Re: [AccessD] Data Has Been Changed Rocky, Does saving (.Dirty = False) the record before updating work? WBR ~Robert -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Rocky Smolin at Beach Access Software Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2008 3:46 PM To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' Subject: [AccessD] Data Has Been Changed Dear List: I'm updating a field on different form that the one I'm on using: Forms!Matters!MatterActionsSubform!DueDate = Me.ActionDate and I get an error 7878 Data has been changed. If I debug and hit F5 it carries on OK and updates the field in the target form. But I can't find much about this 7878 or how to work around the problem. Does anyone have any experience with this error? MTIA Rocky Smolin Beach Access Software 858-259-4334 www.e-z-mrp.com www.bchacc.com -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From rockysmolin at bchacc.com Tue Jul 29 17:59:44 2008 From: rockysmolin at bchacc.com (Rocky Smolin at Beach Access Software) Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2008 15:59:44 -0700 Subject: [AccessD] Data Has Been Changed In-Reply-To: <001001c8f1cd$f0b543a0$d21fcae0$@com> References: <03bb01c8f1b3$b4d691a0$0301a8c0@HAL9005> <000601c8f1c1$04fc39c0$0ef4ad40$@com><03eb01c8f1ca$cda80e90$0301a8c0@HAL9005> <001001c8f1cd$f0b543a0$d21fcae0$@com> Message-ID: <040601c8f1ce$caacac10$0301a8c0@HAL9005> Ooh. Tricky. I'll try it. Rocky Smolin Beach Access Software 858-259-4334 www.e-z-mrp.com www.bchacc.com -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Robert Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2008 3:54 PM To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' Subject: Re: [AccessD] Data Has Been Changed Rocky Try Form_Matters.MatterActionsSubform.Form.Dirty = False WBR ~ Robert -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Rocky Smolin at Beach Access Software Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2008 6:31 PM To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' Subject: Re: [AccessD] Data Has Been Changed It gets a little more complicated here. The field I changed in Form A is also bound in Form B. So I need to save the record in form B from Form A. Don't know how to do that. DoCmd.RunCommand acSaveRecord only works for the form it's in. I suppose I could put the DoCmd into a module in Form B and call it from Form A. But that seems a little kludgey. I worked around it by doing a Requery from A to B but that's not a good solution. (I don't even know why it worked.) Rocky Smolin Beach Access Software 858-259-4334 www.e-z-mrp.com www.bchacc.com -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Robert Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2008 2:21 PM To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' Subject: Re: [AccessD] Data Has Been Changed Rocky, Does saving (.Dirty = False) the record before updating work? WBR ~Robert -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Rocky Smolin at Beach Access Software Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2008 3:46 PM To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' Subject: [AccessD] Data Has Been Changed Dear List: I'm updating a field on different form that the one I'm on using: Forms!Matters!MatterActionsSubform!DueDate = Me.ActionDate and I get an error 7878 Data has been changed. If I debug and hit F5 it carries on OK and updates the field in the target form. But I can't find much about this 7878 or how to work around the problem. Does anyone have any experience with this error? MTIA Rocky Smolin Beach Access Software 858-259-4334 www.e-z-mrp.com www.bchacc.com -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From paul.hartland at googlemail.com Wed Jul 30 04:56:11 2008 From: paul.hartland at googlemail.com (Paul Hartland) Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2008 10:56:11 +0100 Subject: [AccessD] Visual Basic 6.0 Control CardScan Scanner Message-ID: <38c884770807300256o5b4c26a8s347c2a461d31bba8@mail.gmail.com> To all, We have started scanning personnel photo's onto our employee database, I am using Visual Basic 6.0 and the business card scanner CardScan 800c. It works but is a bit clumsy i.e. when we scan a phto the user clicks a button which runs a macro to represent the keystrokes etc required by the CardScan software to process & save the employee's photo. The macro works by firing events/keystrokes depending on the name of the currently open CardScan window, however we now want our European divisions in Belgium & Netherlands to do this as well, the problem being that the macro will not recognise the window name as it will not be in English. Has anyone ever worked with CardScan scanning devices, so that perhaps I could use some sort of general driver to control the CardScan scanner and save the picture. The closest I have came is using GDTwain, which lets me tell the unit to scan and save the picture, but I don't seem to be able to control the resolution etc of the photos. Any help on this will be appreciated, and thank you in advance for any help on this.... -- Paul Hartland paul.hartland at googlemail.com From dwaters at usinternet.com Wed Jul 30 07:43:15 2008 From: dwaters at usinternet.com (Dan Waters) Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2008 07:43:15 -0500 Subject: [AccessD] The database is read-only. Message-ID: <37E6CE830C4445DE95DBA5A3426DDE3B@danwaters> I just moved a database to a customer's server, but now get this above message when a user tries to open it on their PC. This database is shared, and the user is the IT Manager so there's no issue with permissions. Read-only is unchecked. A difference is that the server is using Access 2000, where this was developed in Access 2003, albeit using Access 2000 format. Security is not used in this database. The database is on a server. When I open this on the server using a shortcut, no message is displayed. When the IT manager opens this on his PC with an identical shortcut, he gets the read-only message. The message doesn't prevent the database from opening, but sure would be annoying if we have to look at this every time. I'm working remotely so I can't work on a local PC on site. Any ideas on what my next step might be? Thanks! Dan From Lambert.Heenan at AIG.com Wed Jul 30 08:15:21 2008 From: Lambert.Heenan at AIG.com (Heenan, Lambert) Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2008 08:15:21 -0500 Subject: [AccessD] The database is read-only. Message-ID: <34C8A2AB1EF3564CB0D64DB6AFFDD5C217A7F2AB@XLIVMBX35bkup.aig.com> Stab in the dark: Does the IT guy only have read permissions to the folder where the database is stored? Lambert -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Dan Waters Sent: Wednesday, July 30, 2008 8:43 AM To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' Subject: [AccessD] The database is read-only. I just moved a database to a customer's server, but now get this above message when a user tries to open it on their PC. This database is shared, and the user is the IT Manager so there's no issue with permissions. Read-only is unchecked. A difference is that the server is using Access 2000, where this was developed in Access 2003, albeit using Access 2000 format. Security is not used in this database. The database is on a server. When I open this on the server using a shortcut, no message is displayed. When the IT manager opens this on his PC with an identical shortcut, he gets the read-only message. The message doesn't prevent the database from opening, but sure would be annoying if we have to look at this every time. I'm working remotely so I can't work on a local PC on site. Any ideas on what my next step might be? Thanks! Dan -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From dwaters at usinternet.com Wed Jul 30 08:40:34 2008 From: dwaters at usinternet.com (Dan Waters) Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2008 08:40:34 -0500 Subject: [AccessD] The database is read-only. In-Reply-To: <34C8A2AB1EF3564CB0D64DB6AFFDD5C217A7F2AB@XLIVMBX35bkup.aig.com> References: <34C8A2AB1EF3564CB0D64DB6AFFDD5C217A7F2AB@XLIVMBX35bkup.aig.com> Message-ID: Hmmm. I did create this folder remotely, so maybe that's possible. Dan -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Heenan, Lambert Sent: Wednesday, July 30, 2008 8:15 AM To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' Subject: Re: [AccessD] The database is read-only. Stab in the dark: Does the IT guy only have read permissions to the folder where the database is stored? Lambert -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Dan Waters Sent: Wednesday, July 30, 2008 8:43 AM To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' Subject: [AccessD] The database is read-only. I just moved a database to a customer's server, but now get this above message when a user tries to open it on their PC. This database is shared, and the user is the IT Manager so there's no issue with permissions. Read-only is unchecked. A difference is that the server is using Access 2000, where this was developed in Access 2003, albeit using Access 2000 format. Security is not used in this database. The database is on a server. When I open this on the server using a shortcut, no message is displayed. When the IT manager opens this on his PC with an identical shortcut, he gets the read-only message. The message doesn't prevent the database from opening, but sure would be annoying if we have to look at this every time. I'm working remotely so I can't work on a local PC on site. Any ideas on what my next step might be? Thanks! Dan -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From ssharkins at gmail.com Wed Jul 30 16:37:12 2008 From: ssharkins at gmail.com (Susan Harkins) Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2008 17:37:12 -0400 Subject: [AccessD] Another article some of you might like References: <05d701c8ef7f$d11aaad0$2f8601c7@SusanOne> Message-ID: <055b01c8f28c$7272d290$2f8601c7@SusanOne> > > I read it this morning! Very Good - I believe I've seen all of this. > Very > unfortunate for the company those IT folks are in. ========Thanks -- yes, I probably just repeated what most everyone on this already knows. :) I'm getting alot of good feedback through private email from readers. Susan H. From ssharkins at gmail.com Wed Jul 30 17:45:48 2008 From: ssharkins at gmail.com (Susan Harkins) Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2008 18:45:48 -0400 Subject: [AccessD] upsizing Message-ID: <005501c8f296$04c93310$2f8601c7@SusanOne> SSMA converts Access Yes/No fields to tinyint, instead of bit -- does anyone have an explanation for that? My guess is it's because SQL Server's bit didn't support NULL's until 7.0, but it seems like the wizard would keep up with something like that. I really can't recall if Access' Yes/No always supported NULLs or not. Susan H. From DWUTKA at Marlow.com Wed Jul 30 18:35:42 2008 From: DWUTKA at Marlow.com (Drew Wutka) Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2008 18:35:42 -0500 Subject: [AccessD] A server anyone? (OT) Message-ID: We are trying to get rid of a Dec Alpha server. It's a few years old, is a BIG box (would be the size of a 30 U server rack. We just want to get rid of it, so if anyone on the list wants it, and is willing to pay for shipping it, it's yours. Drew The information contained in this transmission is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain II-VI Proprietary and/or II-VI Business Sensitive material. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender immediately and destroy the material in its entirety, whether electronic or hard copy. You are notified that any review, retransmission, copying, disclosure, dissemination, or other use of, or taking of any action in reliance upon this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient is prohibited. From stuart at lexacorp.com.pg Wed Jul 30 18:40:24 2008 From: stuart at lexacorp.com.pg (Stuart McLachlan) Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2008 09:40:24 +1000 Subject: [AccessD] upsizing In-Reply-To: <005501c8f296$04c93310$2f8601c7@SusanOne> Message-ID: <48918888.23994.A7E4C81@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg> Possiby because Access uses -1 for True and you can't represent that with a bit? What value does SSMA store insert a True record (1 or -1)? On 30 Jul 2008 at 18:45, Susan Harkins wrote: > SSMA converts Access Yes/No fields to tinyint, instead of bit -- does anyone > have an explanation for that? > > My guess is it's because SQL Server's bit didn't support NULL's until 7.0, > but it seems like the wizard would keep up with something like that. I > really can't recall if Access' Yes/No always supported NULLs or not. > > Susan H. > > -- > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From dwaters at usinternet.com Wed Jul 30 18:41:41 2008 From: dwaters at usinternet.com (Dan Waters) Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2008 18:41:41 -0500 Subject: [AccessD] upsizing In-Reply-To: <005501c8f296$04c93310$2f8601c7@SusanOne> References: <005501c8f296$04c93310$2f8601c7@SusanOne> Message-ID: <2AA11F59F2234A84BA0630034EBCE723@danwaters> Hi Susan, In the database I just converted this afternoon using SSMA, Yes/No values were converted to bits, and Allow Nulls is checked true. My SSMA version is 1.2.852, which is the latest version for Access 2003 and SQL Server 2005. Dan -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Susan Harkins Sent: Wednesday, July 30, 2008 5:46 PM To: AccessD at databaseadvisors.com Subject: [AccessD] upsizing SSMA converts Access Yes/No fields to tinyint, instead of bit -- does anyone have an explanation for that? My guess is it's because SQL Server's bit didn't support NULL's until 7.0, but it seems like the wizard would keep up with something like that. I really can't recall if Access' Yes/No always supported NULLs or not. Susan H. -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From edzedz at comcast.net Wed Jul 30 19:47:02 2008 From: edzedz at comcast.net (Edward S Zuris) Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2008 17:47:02 -0700 Subject: [AccessD] A server anyone? (OT) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <001201c8f2a6$f2ee3710$65dea8c0@dudley1> Does it have VMS on it ? I wasted my youth on Rsts/e and VMS. Where is the machine located ? -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Drew Wutka Sent: Wednesday, July 30, 2008 4:36 PM To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving Subject: [AccessD] A server anyone? (OT) We are trying to get rid of a Dec Alpha server. It's a few years old, is a BIG box (would be the size of a 30 U server rack. We just want to get rid of it, so if anyone on the list wants it, and is willing to pay for shipping it, it's yours. Drew The information contained in this transmission is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain II-VI Proprietary and/or II-VI Business Sensitive material. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender immediately and destroy the material in its entirety, whether electronic or hard copy. You are notified that any review, retransmission, copying, disclosure, dissemination, or other use of, or taking of any action in reliance upon this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient is prohibited. -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From ssharkins at gmail.com Wed Jul 30 18:48:10 2008 From: ssharkins at gmail.com (Susan Harkins) Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2008 19:48:10 -0400 Subject: [AccessD] upsizing References: <48918888.23994.A7E4C81@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg> Message-ID: <00bd01c8f29e$bd4269e0$2f8601c7@SusanOne> oooooooooooooo.... I like that. :) Susan H. > Possiby because Access uses -1 for True and you can't represent that with > a bit? > > What value does SSMA store insert a True record (1 or -1)? > > > On 30 Jul 2008 at 18:45, Susan Harkins wrote: > >> SSMA converts Access Yes/No fields to tinyint, instead of bit -- does >> anyone >> have an explanation for that? >> >> My guess is it's because SQL Server's bit didn't support NULL's until >> 7.0, >> but it seems like the wizard would keep up with something like that. I >> really can't recall if Access' Yes/No always supported NULLs or not. >> >> Susan H. >> >> -- >> AccessD mailing list >> AccessD at databaseadvisors.com >> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd >> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > > -- > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From ssharkins at gmail.com Wed Jul 30 18:49:10 2008 From: ssharkins at gmail.com (Susan Harkins) Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2008 19:49:10 -0400 Subject: [AccessD] upsizing References: <005501c8f296$04c93310$2f8601c7@SusanOne> <2AA11F59F2234A84BA0630034EBCE723@danwaters> Message-ID: <00c201c8f29f$06a5cc30$2f8601c7@SusanOne> Interesting... I'll keep looking! That's an interesting difference. Susan H. > Hi Susan, > > In the database I just converted this afternoon using SSMA, Yes/No values > were converted to bits, and Allow Nulls is checked true. > > My SSMA version is 1.2.852, which is the latest version for Access 2003 > and > SQL Server 2005. > > Dan > > -----Original Message----- > From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Susan Harkins > Sent: Wednesday, July 30, 2008 5:46 PM > To: AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > Subject: [AccessD] upsizing > > SSMA converts Access Yes/No fields to tinyint, instead of bit -- does > anyone > > have an explanation for that? > > My guess is it's because SQL Server's bit didn't support NULL's until 7.0, > but it seems like the wizard would keep up with something like that. I > really can't recall if Access' Yes/No always supported NULLs or not. > > Susan H. > > -- > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > -- > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From DWUTKA at Marlow.com Wed Jul 30 18:57:16 2008 From: DWUTKA at Marlow.com (Drew Wutka) Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2008 18:57:16 -0500 Subject: [AccessD] A server anyone? (OT) In-Reply-To: <001201c8f2a6$f2ee3710$65dea8c0@dudley1> Message-ID: What's VMS? It's running Unix, though I'm not sure what version it is. It's in our server room in Dallas Texas. Drew -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Edward S Zuris Sent: Wednesday, July 30, 2008 7:47 PM To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' Subject: Re: [AccessD] A server anyone? (OT) Does it have VMS on it ? I wasted my youth on Rsts/e and VMS. Where is the machine located ? -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Drew Wutka Sent: Wednesday, July 30, 2008 4:36 PM To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving Subject: [AccessD] A server anyone? (OT) We are trying to get rid of a Dec Alpha server. It's a few years old, is a BIG box (would be the size of a 30 U server rack. We just want to get rid of it, so if anyone on the list wants it, and is willing to pay for shipping it, it's yours. Drew The information contained in this transmission is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain II-VI Proprietary and/or II-VI Business Sensitive material. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender immediately and destroy the material in its entirety, whether electronic or hard copy. You are notified that any review, retransmission, copying, disclosure, dissemination, or other use of, or taking of any action in reliance upon this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient is prohibited. -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com The information contained in this transmission is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain II-VI Proprietary and/or II-VI Business Sensitive material. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender immediately and destroy the material in its entirety, whether electronic or hard copy. You are notified that any review, retransmission, copying, disclosure, dissemination, or other use of, or taking of any action in reliance upon this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient is prohibited. From Gustav at cactus.dk Thu Jul 31 03:40:57 2008 From: Gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock) Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2008 10:40:57 +0200 Subject: [AccessD] upsizing Message-ID: Hi Susan It could be due to the bug in Office SP3: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/943967/ This should, however, have been corrected with the SP3 hotfix package: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/945674 /gustav >>> ssharkins at gmail.com 31-07-2008 00:45 >>> SSMA converts Access Yes/No fields to tinyint, instead of bit -- does anyone have an explanation for that? My guess is it's because SQL Server's bit didn't support NULL's until 7.0, but it seems like the wizard would keep up with something like that. I really can't recall if Access' Yes/No always supported NULLs or not. Susan H. From Gustav at cactus.dk Thu Jul 31 03:44:15 2008 From: Gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock) Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2008 10:44:15 +0200 Subject: [AccessD] upsizing Message-ID: Hi Susan There are several other "issues" with the update wizard. One I can think of is the addition of a timestamp field to each and every table. It doesn't hurt but I don't believe it should be needed in every case. /gustav >>> ssharkins at gmail.com 31-07-2008 00:45 >>> SSMA converts Access Yes/No fields to tinyint, instead of bit -- does anyone have an explanation for that? My guess is it's because SQL Server's bit didn't support NULL's until 7.0, but it seems like the wizard would keep up with something like that. I really can't recall if Access' Yes/No always supported NULLs or not. Susan H. From Gustav at cactus.dk Thu Jul 31 03:53:29 2008 From: Gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock) Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2008 10:53:29 +0200 Subject: [AccessD] A server anyone? (OT) Message-ID: Hi Drew Thanks for the offer but ... I decline. How about making it a donation to a computer museum? Doesn't Rocky have contact with one in San Diego? Not just around the corner from your place, I know ... /gustav >>> DWUTKA at marlow.com 31-07-2008 01:35 >>> We are trying to get rid of a Dec Alpha server. It's a few years old, is a BIG box (would be the size of a 30 U server rack. We just want to get rid of it, so if anyone on the list wants it, and is willing to pay for shipping it, it's yours. Drew From fuller.artful at gmail.com Thu Jul 31 04:08:36 2008 From: fuller.artful at gmail.com (Arthur Fuller) Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2008 06:08:36 -0300 Subject: [AccessD] upsizing In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <29f585dd0807310208u708497a1rbbe110557e66b1c9@mail.gmail.com> Certainly you are correct, Gustav. but personally I like this column and am happy to have it added. Arthur On Thu, Jul 31, 2008 at 5:44 AM, Gustav Brock wrote: > Hi Susan > > There are several other "issues" with the update wizard. One I can think of > is the addition of a timestamp field to each and every table. It doesn't > hurt but I don't believe it should be needed in every case. > > /gustav > From Gustav at cactus.dk Thu Jul 31 04:17:46 2008 From: Gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock) Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2008 11:17:46 +0200 Subject: [AccessD] upsizing Message-ID: Hi Arthur Well, but why? Except that it is easier and faster to delete those not needed, than - if the field was not created - to create it for those tables where needed. /gustav >>> fuller.artful at gmail.com 31-07-2008 11:08 >>> Certainly you are correct, Gustav. but personally I like this column and am happy to have it added. Arthur On Thu, Jul 31, 2008 at 5:44 AM, Gustav Brock wrote: > Hi Susan > > There are several other "issues" with the update wizard. One I can think of > is the addition of a timestamp field to each and every table. It doesn't > hurt but I don't believe it should be needed in every case. > > /gustav From ssharkins at gmail.com Thu Jul 31 07:59:14 2008 From: ssharkins at gmail.com (Susan Harkins) Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2008 08:59:14 -0400 Subject: [AccessD] upsizing References: Message-ID: <021301c8f30d$6c080b10$2f8601c7@SusanOne> I'm not actually upsizing for development purposes, I'm just writing a short tips article to make the process easier -- just points that if they know ahead of time, they can avoid problems. SSMA seems to be pretty good to tell the truth -- certainly better than the built-in wizard. I spent some time researching some of the forums and most of the problems seem to be with connection and not really upsizing. Susan H. > Hi Susan > > There are several other "issues" with the update wizard. One I can think > of is the addition of a timestamp field to each and every table. It > doesn't hurt but I don't believe it should be needed in every case. From ssharkins at gmail.com Thu Jul 31 08:00:27 2008 From: ssharkins at gmail.com (Susan Harkins) Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2008 09:00:27 -0400 Subject: [AccessD] upsizing References: Message-ID: <021601c8f30d$6dd1ce90$2f8601c7@SusanOne> SSMA lets you decide -- you can add the timestamp column or not. Susan H. > Hi Arthur > > Well, but why? Except that it is easier and faster to delete those not > needed, than - if the field was not created - to create it for those > tables where needed. From ssharkins at gmail.com Thu Jul 31 09:23:09 2008 From: ssharkins at gmail.com (Susan Harkins) Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2008 10:23:09 -0400 Subject: [AccessD] Access development on the wane? Message-ID: <030301c8f319$026a44f0$2f8601c7@SusanOne> Although I think Access is still healthy and will be around for a long time, readers are contacting me privately with concerns. Some of them aren't getting as much Access work as they use to. I'm just curious -- what are the contractors on this list experiencing -- have you noticed a slow down in Access development? Susan H. From rockysmolin at bchacc.com Thu Jul 31 10:01:24 2008 From: rockysmolin at bchacc.com (Rocky Smolin at Beach Access Software) Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2008 08:01:24 -0700 Subject: [AccessD] A server anyone? (OT) In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <054c01c8f31e$4d015300$0301a8c0@HAL9005> It was great while it lasted: http://www.computer-museum.org/ We had the second international AccessD Conference there. Rocky Smolin Beach Access Software 858-259-4334 www.e-z-mrp.com www.bchacc.com -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gustav Brock Sent: Thursday, July 31, 2008 1:53 AM To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: Re: [AccessD] A server anyone? (OT) Hi Drew Thanks for the offer but ... I decline. How about making it a donation to a computer museum? Doesn't Rocky have contact with one in San Diego? Not just around the corner from your place, I know ... /gustav >>> DWUTKA at marlow.com 31-07-2008 01:35 >>> We are trying to get rid of a Dec Alpha server. It's a few years old, is a BIG box (would be the size of a 30 U server rack. We just want to get rid of it, so if anyone on the list wants it, and is willing to pay for shipping it, it's yours. Drew -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From cfoust at infostatsystems.com Thu Jul 31 10:25:25 2008 From: cfoust at infostatsystems.com (Charlotte Foust) Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2008 08:25:25 -0700 Subject: [AccessD] upsizing In-Reply-To: <00bd01c8f29e$bd4269e0$2f8601c7@SusanOne> References: <48918888.23994.A7E4C81@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg> <00bd01c8f29e$bd4269e0$2f8601c7@SusanOne> Message-ID: We have to be careful in our .Net code to always test for 0 or <> 0 because we run against both Access and SQL Server. Trying to test for True crashes on one or the other. Charlotte Foust -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Susan Harkins Sent: Wednesday, July 30, 2008 4:48 PM To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving Subject: Re: [AccessD] upsizing oooooooooooooo.... I like that. :) Susan H. > Possiby because Access uses -1 for True and you can't represent that > with a bit? > > What value does SSMA store insert a True record (1 or -1)? > > > On 30 Jul 2008 at 18:45, Susan Harkins wrote: > >> SSMA converts Access Yes/No fields to tinyint, instead of bit -- does >> anyone have an explanation for that? >> >> My guess is it's because SQL Server's bit didn't support NULL's until >> 7.0, but it seems like the wizard would keep up with something like >> that. I really can't recall if Access' Yes/No always supported NULLs >> or not. >> >> Susan H. >> >> -- >> AccessD mailing list >> AccessD at databaseadvisors.com >> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd >> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > > -- > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From jimdettman at verizon.net Thu Jul 31 11:01:27 2008 From: jimdettman at verizon.net (Jim Dettman) Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2008 12:01:27 -0400 Subject: [AccessD] Access development on the wane? In-Reply-To: <030301c8f319$026a44f0$2f8601c7@SusanOne> References: <030301c8f319$026a44f0$2f8601c7@SusanOne> Message-ID: <000601c8f326$b1174c20$8abea8c0@XPS> Susan, I'm seeing a definite resistance to new projects using Access. I'm still very busy though supporting existing apps. As you said, it will be around for a long time. Hopefully I can keep going with it till I retire, but I think that will be a push (about 15 years). As soon as I can free up some time, I'm figuring to start working with .Net finally. Jim. -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Susan Harkins Sent: Thursday, July 31, 2008 10:23 AM To: AccessD at databaseadvisors.com Subject: [AccessD] Access development on the wane? Although I think Access is still healthy and will be around for a long time, readers are contacting me privately with concerns. Some of them aren't getting as much Access work as they use to. I'm just curious -- what are the contractors on this list experiencing -- have you noticed a slow down in Access development? Susan H. -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From delam at zyterra.com Thu Jul 31 11:54:13 2008 From: delam at zyterra.com (Debbie Elam) Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2008 11:54:13 -0500 Subject: [AccessD] Access development on the wane? Message-ID: <20080731165412.LOVH7681.atlmtaow03.cingularme.com@Inbox> It is mixed. Very small customers and large customers who have large hurdles of paperwork and approvals to get on their database server hang on to access. On the other hand, I get more and more requests for SQL server work. Debbie -----Original Message----- From: Susan Harkins Sent: Thursday, July 31, 2008 9:23 AM To: AccessD at databaseadvisors.com Subject: [AccessD] Access development on the wane? Although I think Access is still healthy and will be around for a long time, readers are contacting me privately with concerns. Some of them aren't getting as much Access work as they use to. I'm just curious -- what are the contractors on this list experiencing -- have you noticed a slow down in Access development? Susan H. -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From dbdoug at gmail.com Thu Jul 31 12:08:32 2008 From: dbdoug at gmail.com (Doug Steele) Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2008 10:08:32 -0700 Subject: [AccessD] Access 2007 popups Message-ID: <4dd71a0c0807311008g10f16462h912c922102a97465@mail.gmail.com> Does anyone have a solution for the problem in Access 2007 where a popup window will open in a size so small that you can't grab it with the mouse (approx 1/16 in wide and 1/2 in tall)? I've seen it mentioned on the web, and am having trouble with it on two different databases. I've tried Movesize on opening and every possible combination of border type, autosize, autocenter. The frustrating part is that I seem to get the popups working, then suddenly one user (not, of course the same user each time) will report that they've reverted to tiny. Once that happens for a user, they never seem to go back to the proper size. I'm being forced to set the popup property to No and have some really ugly screens! Doug Steele From dwaters at usinternet.com Thu Jul 31 12:49:50 2008 From: dwaters at usinternet.com (Dan Waters) Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2008 12:49:50 -0500 Subject: [AccessD] Access development on the wane? In-Reply-To: <030301c8f319$026a44f0$2f8601c7@SusanOne> References: <030301c8f319$026a44f0$2f8601c7@SusanOne> Message-ID: <0ED31073DE024BB0AB07E0C97B88A736@danwaters> This isn't what MS wants. VBA will be used in Access 14. And they seem to be trying hard to make significant improvements from a typical user perspective. Dan -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Susan Harkins Sent: Thursday, July 31, 2008 9:23 AM To: AccessD at databaseadvisors.com Subject: [AccessD] Access development on the wane? Although I think Access is still healthy and will be around for a long time, readers are contacting me privately with concerns. Some of them aren't getting as much Access work as they use to. I'm just curious -- what are the contractors on this list experiencing -- have you noticed a slow down in Access development? Susan H. -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From mwp.reid at qub.ac.uk Thu Jul 31 13:17:28 2008 From: mwp.reid at qub.ac.uk (Martin Reid) Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2008 19:17:28 +0100 Subject: [AccessD] Access 2007 popups In-Reply-To: <4dd71a0c0807311008g10f16462h912c922102a97465@mail.gmail.com> References: <4dd71a0c0807311008g10f16462h912c922102a97465@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Doug I noticed this on the web Martin WP Reid Information Services Queen's University Riddel Hall 185 Stranmillis Road Belfast BT9 5EE Tel : 02890974465 Email : mwp.reid at qub.ac.uk ________________________________________ From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Doug Steele [dbdoug at gmail.com] Sent: 31 July 2008 18:08 To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: [AccessD] Access 2007 popups Does anyone have a solution for the problem in Access 2007 where a popup window will open in a size so small that you can't grab it with the mouse (approx 1/16 in wide and 1/2 in tall)? I've seen it mentioned on the web, and am having trouble with it on two different databases. I've tried Movesize on opening and every possible combination of border type, autosize, autocenter. The frustrating part is that I seem to get the popups working, then suddenly one user (not, of course the same user each time) will report that they've reverted to tiny. Once that happens for a user, they never seem to go back to the proper size. I'm being forced to set the popup property to No and have some really ugly screens! Doug Steele -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From mwp.reid at qub.ac.uk Thu Jul 31 13:17:44 2008 From: mwp.reid at qub.ac.uk (Martin Reid) Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2008 19:17:44 +0100 Subject: [AccessD] Access 2007 popups In-Reply-To: <4dd71a0c0807311008g10f16462h912c922102a97465@mail.gmail.com> References: <4dd71a0c0807311008g10f16462h912c922102a97465@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Doug I noticed this on the web Try using in the form's On Open event the following: DoCmd.MoveSize Right, Down, Width, Height The units for the Right, Down, Width, Height arguments are twips (a twip is equal to 1/20 of a point, or 1/1440 of an inch...for metric, there are 567 twips in a centimetre). I had the same problem and reset the forms size properties and it was Ok. I have noticed this is some DBs moved to 2007 as opposed to being developed in 2007. Martin Martin WP Reid Information Services Queen's University Riddel Hall 185 Stranmillis Road Belfast BT9 5EE Tel : 02890974465 Email : mwp.reid at qub.ac.uk ________________________________________ From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Doug Steele [dbdoug at gmail.com] Sent: 31 July 2008 18:08 To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: [AccessD] Access 2007 popups Does anyone have a solution for the problem in Access 2007 where a popup window will open in a size so small that you can't grab it with the mouse (approx 1/16 in wide and 1/2 in tall)? I've seen it mentioned on the web, and am having trouble with it on two different databases. I've tried Movesize on opening and every possible combination of border type, autosize, autocenter. The frustrating part is that I seem to get the popups working, then suddenly one user (not, of course the same user each time) will report that they've reverted to tiny. Once that happens for a user, they never seem to go back to the proper size. I'm being forced to set the popup property to No and have some really ugly screens! Doug Steele -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From cfoust at infostatsystems.com Thu Jul 31 13:23:18 2008 From: cfoust at infostatsystems.com (Charlotte Foust) Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2008 11:23:18 -0700 Subject: [AccessD] Access development on the wane? In-Reply-To: <0ED31073DE024BB0AB07E0C97B88A736@danwaters> References: <030301c8f319$026a44f0$2f8601c7@SusanOne> <0ED31073DE024BB0AB07E0C97B88A736@danwaters> Message-ID: >>This isn't what MS wants. Well, at least it isn't what they SAY they want. From a developer's perspective, I'd say the handwriting has been on the wall in very large letters for years. MS has never given Access any respect as a development tool themselves, just patted the developers on the head with a "bless your hearts" attitude and kept pitching the product to end users and trying to steer developers to sexier development products with a higher MS profit margin and to SQL Server for everything. IMO they've been in total denial about the need for basic relational understanding because they've been competing with products that appealed to the DYI end user who wouldn't know relational if it bit him, basically the same market as for Excel but with a prettier interface. They've shot themselves in the foot and Access, much as we might love it, is going to continue to compete with FileMaker, et al for the foreseeable future. I think it will continue to be diminished in importance and real meat, regardless of what MS may promise. Charlotte Foust -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Dan Waters Sent: Thursday, July 31, 2008 10:50 AM To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' Subject: Re: [AccessD] Access development on the wane? This isn't what MS wants. VBA will be used in Access 14. And they seem to be trying hard to make significant improvements from a typical user perspective. Dan -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Susan Harkins Sent: Thursday, July 31, 2008 9:23 AM To: AccessD at databaseadvisors.com Subject: [AccessD] Access development on the wane? Although I think Access is still healthy and will be around for a long time, readers are contacting me privately with concerns. Some of them aren't getting as much Access work as they use to. I'm just curious -- what are the contractors on this list experiencing -- have you noticed a slow down in Access development? Susan H. -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From RRANTHON at sentara.com Thu Jul 31 13:31:19 2008 From: RRANTHON at sentara.com (RANDALL R ANTHONY) Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2008 14:31:19 -0400 Subject: [AccessD] Database Corruption? Message-ID: <200807311831.m6VIVWdL016880@databaseadvisors.com> A97, FE and BE Hey everyone, I've got another one of those bizarre problems that just cropped up. Made some extensive changes to a db. During some regression testing a user reported a problem that the db was getting hung up. Stepping through the code I found this anomaly: When the code hits this line If DCount("ClaimId", "Audit Detail", Criteria) = 0 Then it jumps to this public function (which is not supposed to be invoked until way down the line) Public Function ErrorCodeList(ClaimID As String) As String When it does this, a) it hangs up because there's a boatload of records, b) shouldn't be happening. I finally resolved it (or so I thought) by doing the ol' /decompile switch on my frontend. Now my test FE and BE work. However, when I connect my clean FE to the production BE, the same thing happens. I've created a new db and imported all the tables into a new container, no go. Any clues would be sincerely appreciated. Thanks! From JHewson at nciinc.com Thu Jul 31 13:42:42 2008 From: JHewson at nciinc.com (Hewson, Jim ) Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2008 13:42:42 -0500 Subject: [AccessD] Database Corruption? In-Reply-To: <200807311831.m6VIVWdL016880@databaseadvisors.com> References: <200807311831.m6VIVWdL016880@databaseadvisors.com> Message-ID: <7E02B06E41E5404589EDDDA2BAA1C5A82C8FC8@sanex101.nciinc.com> Maybe it was typed incorrectly but the domain function should read: DCount("ClaimId", "Audit Detail", "Criteria = 0") I'm not sure what you're trying to do. How can the result of DCount be zero when you're looking for a valid ID number? Please explain. Jim jhewson at nciinc.com -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of RANDALL R ANTHONY Sent: Thursday, July 31, 2008 1:31 PM To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: [AccessD] Database Corruption? A97, FE and BE Hey everyone, I've got another one of those bizarre problems that just cropped up. Made some extensive changes to a db. During some regression testing a user reported a problem that the db was getting hung up. Stepping through the code I found this anomaly: When the code hits this line If DCount("ClaimId", "Audit Detail", Criteria) = 0 Then it jumps to this public function (which is not supposed to be invoked until way down the line) Public Function ErrorCodeList(ClaimID As String) As String When it does this, a) it hangs up because there's a boatload of records, b) shouldn't be happening. I finally resolved it (or so I thought) by doing the ol' /decompile switch on my frontend. Now my test FE and BE work. However, when I connect my clean FE to the production BE, the same thing happens. I've created a new db and imported all the tables into a new container, no go. Any clues would be sincerely appreciated. Thanks! -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com ################################################################################ This email transmission contains information from NCI Information Systems, Inc. that may be considered privileged or confidential and is intended solely for the named recipient. If you have received this message in error, please contact the sender immediately and be aware that the use, copying or dissemination of this information is prohibited. ################################################################################ From RRANTHON at sentara.com Thu Jul 31 13:57:39 2008 From: RRANTHON at sentara.com (RANDALL R ANTHONY) Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2008 14:57:39 -0400 Subject: [AccessD] Database Corruption? In-Reply-To: <7E02B06E41E5404589EDDDA2BAA1C5A82C8FC8@sanex101.nciinc.com> References: <200807311831.m6VIVWdL016880@databaseadvisors.com> <7E02B06E41E5404589EDDDA2BAA1C5A82C8FC8@sanex101.nciinc.com> Message-ID: <200807311857.m6VIvoOR031751@databaseadvisors.com> Sorry for the confusion, that line runs a query to see if there are any claims, if none, then give an error message, if the count is > 0, open the report. When the report opens, the second line is of code noted is used in the detail to display the error codes associated with a valid ID. So, right now, when the code hits the first line, it's jumping to that function, which has nothing to do with the first line. And it doesn't do it with a "clean" FE and BE. >>> "Hewson, Jim " 7/31/2008 2:42 PM >>> Maybe it was typed incorrectly but the domain function should read: DCount("ClaimId", "Audit Detail", "Criteria = 0") I'm not sure what you're trying to do. How can the result of DCount be zero when you're looking for a valid ID number? Please explain. Jim jhewson at nciinc.com -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of RANDALL R ANTHONY Sent: Thursday, July 31, 2008 1:31 PM To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: [AccessD] Database Corruption? A97, FE and BE Hey everyone, I've got another one of those bizarre problems that just cropped up. Made some extensive changes to a db. During some regression testing a user reported a problem that the db was getting hung up. Stepping through the code I found this anomaly: When the code hits this line If DCount("ClaimId", "Audit Detail", Criteria) = 0 Then it jumps to this public function (which is not supposed to be invoked until way down the line) Public Function ErrorCodeList(ClaimID As String) As String When it does this, a) it hangs up because there's a boatload of records, b) shouldn't be happening. I finally resolved it (or so I thought) by doing the ol' /decompile switch on my frontend. Now my test FE and BE work. However, when I connect my clean FE to the production BE, the same thing happens. I've created a new db and imported all the tables into a new container, no go. Any clues would be sincerely appreciated. Thanks! -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com ################################################################################ This email transmission contains information from NCI Information Systems, Inc. that may be considered privileged or confidential and is intended solely for the named recipient. If you have received this message in error, please contact the sender immediately and be aware that the use, copying or dissemination of this information is prohibited. ################################################################################ -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From Donald.A.McGillivray at sprint.com Thu Jul 31 13:59:27 2008 From: Donald.A.McGillivray at sprint.com (McGillivray, Don [IT]) Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2008 13:59:27 -0500 Subject: [AccessD] Database Corruption? In-Reply-To: <200807311831.m6VIVWdL016880@databaseadvisors.com> References: <200807311831.m6VIVWdL016880@databaseadvisors.com> Message-ID: <310215F6BEEEA84A8D6366F219C763314A0B94DA66@PDAWM07C.ad.sprint.com> Dunno if this will help . . . Sometimes unexpected values in the table being aggregated will cause the domain aggregate function to puke, so I often wrap them in an Nz() function to ensure that a valid value is returned. Something like: If Nz(DCount("ClaimId", "Audit Detail", Criteria), 0) = 0 Then Might be worth a try . . . -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of RANDALL R ANTHONY Sent: Thursday, July 31, 2008 11:31 AM To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: [AccessD] Database Corruption? A97, FE and BE Hey everyone, I've got another one of those bizarre problems that just cropped up. Made some extensive changes to a db. During some regression testing a user reported a problem that the db was getting hung up. Stepping through the code I found this anomaly: When the code hits this line If DCount("ClaimId", "Audit Detail", Criteria) = 0 Then it jumps to this public function (which is not supposed to be invoked until way down the line) Public Function ErrorCodeList(ClaimID As String) As String When it does this, a) it hangs up because there's a boatload of records, b) shouldn't be happening. I finally resolved it (or so I thought) by doing the ol' /decompile switch on my frontend. Now my test FE and BE work. However, when I connect my clean FE to the production BE, the same thing happens. I've created a new db and imported all the tables into a new container, no go. Any clues would be sincerely appreciated. Thanks! -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From fuller.artful at gmail.com Thu Jul 31 14:01:42 2008 From: fuller.artful at gmail.com (Arthur Fuller) Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2008 16:01:42 -0300 Subject: [AccessD] Access development on the wane? In-Reply-To: References: <030301c8f319$026a44f0$2f8601c7@SusanOne> <0ED31073DE024BB0AB07E0C97B88A736@danwaters> Message-ID: <29f585dd0807311201j20fff8d0p46c663b0a746c19a@mail.gmail.com> I have seen a sharp dimunition in Access jobs on the various job boards I visit and in the newspaper of record. Fortunately, I have moved into a totally BE-related job. Ironically, I am now dragged into boning up on C# due to the fact that our C#/C++ programmer has just suffered a severe stroke and the current prognosis is that it's unlikely that he'll return. I know my way around C# and I know a little C but C++ is a new kettle of fish. Going through Shahid's notes and his project files, I am realizing how much info is in his head and not on paper. Oh well. We struggle on. Arthur From RRANTHON at sentara.com Thu Jul 31 14:17:02 2008 From: RRANTHON at sentara.com (RANDALL R ANTHONY) Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2008 15:17:02 -0400 Subject: [AccessD] Database Corruption? In-Reply-To: <310215F6BEEEA84A8D6366F219C763314A0B94DA66@PDAWM07C.ad.sprint.com> References: <200807311831.m6VIVWdL016880@databaseadvisors.com> <310215F6BEEEA84A8D6366F219C763314A0B94DA66@PDAWM07C.ad.sprint.com> Message-ID: <200807311917.m6VJHKKc011357@databaseadvisors.com> Grasping at straws, I added that code Don. No go. Just to reiterate, it's not the that line of code, but that fact that it's jumping to a function that is not being called from there. It's as if seeing "Claim ID" in the first line, it's thinking it needs to call that function. >>> "McGillivray, Don [IT]" 7/31/2008 2:59 PM >>> Dunno if this will help . . . Sometimes unexpected values in the table being aggregated will cause the domain aggregate function to puke, so I often wrap them in an Nz() function to ensure that a valid value is returned. Something like: If Nz(DCount("ClaimId", "Audit Detail", Criteria), 0) = 0 Then Might be worth a try . . . -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of RANDALL R ANTHONY Sent: Thursday, July 31, 2008 11:31 AM To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: [AccessD] Database Corruption? A97, FE and BE Hey everyone, I've got another one of those bizarre problems that just cropped up. Made some extensive changes to a db. During some regression testing a user reported a problem that the db was getting hung up. Stepping through the code I found this anomaly: When the code hits this line If DCount("ClaimId", "Audit Detail", Criteria) = 0 Then it jumps to this public function (which is not supposed to be invoked until way down the line) Public Function ErrorCodeList(ClaimID As String) As String When it does this, a) it hangs up because there's a boatload of records, b) shouldn't be happening. I finally resolved it (or so I thought) by doing the ol' /decompile switch on my frontend. Now my test FE and BE work. However, when I connect my clean FE to the production BE, the same thing happens. I've created a new db and imported all the tables into a new container, no go. Any clues would be sincerely appreciated. Thanks! -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From dwaters at usinternet.com Thu Jul 31 14:21:03 2008 From: dwaters at usinternet.com (Dan Waters) Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2008 14:21:03 -0500 Subject: [AccessD] Access development on the wane? In-Reply-To: References: <030301c8f319$026a44f0$2f8601c7@SusanOne><0ED31073DE024BB0AB07E0C97B88A736@danwaters> Message-ID: Well . . . . , Access 2007 was the largest change between revisions that Access has seen. I read that the reason for this was that the Access group within MS had been taken out from under the SQL Server group. In reading between the lines, the SQL Server group believed that without Access their market would be larger, and so they minimized support internally and also had their strong marketing arm denigrate Access whenever they had a chance. This often 'stuck' on IT departments who often want the latest, best, etc. Thus Access wasn't given the respect it does deserve, and we all know how IT folks often feel about using Access. I do believe that developers who know both SQL Server and Access can make a pretty clear recommendation as to which should be used in a specific situation. Now if we could just get the SQL Server group to stay in their own pond, Access would have clear sailing! So, I believe that the tide turned a few years ago, symbolized by the release of Access 2007. At least I'm hopeful . . . :-) Dan -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Charlotte Foust Sent: Thursday, July 31, 2008 1:23 PM To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving Subject: Re: [AccessD] Access development on the wane? >>This isn't what MS wants. Well, at least it isn't what they SAY they want. From a developer's perspective, I'd say the handwriting has been on the wall in very large letters for years. MS has never given Access any respect as a development tool themselves, just patted the developers on the head with a "bless your hearts" attitude and kept pitching the product to end users and trying to steer developers to sexier development products with a higher MS profit margin and to SQL Server for everything. IMO they've been in total denial about the need for basic relational understanding because they've been competing with products that appealed to the DYI end user who wouldn't know relational if it bit him, basically the same market as for Excel but with a prettier interface. They've shot themselves in the foot and Access, much as we might love it, is going to continue to compete with FileMaker, et al for the foreseeable future. I think it will continue to be diminished in importance and real meat, regardless of what MS may promise. Charlotte Foust -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Dan Waters Sent: Thursday, July 31, 2008 10:50 AM To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' Subject: Re: [AccessD] Access development on the wane? This isn't what MS wants. VBA will be used in Access 14. And they seem to be trying hard to make significant improvements from a typical user perspective. Dan -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Susan Harkins Sent: Thursday, July 31, 2008 9:23 AM To: AccessD at databaseadvisors.com Subject: [AccessD] Access development on the wane? Although I think Access is still healthy and will be around for a long time, readers are contacting me privately with concerns. Some of them aren't getting as much Access work as they use to. I'm just curious -- what are the contractors on this list experiencing -- have you noticed a slow down in Access development? Susan H. -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From dwaters at usinternet.com Thu Jul 31 14:47:03 2008 From: dwaters at usinternet.com (Dan Waters) Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2008 14:47:03 -0500 Subject: [AccessD] Access Upsizing Message-ID: <30CD786ED4F74ADA9A59DD62E61A9006@danwaters> Charlotte, You said that you check for =0 or <>0, rather than check for True or False. Do you set Allow Nulls = False in the table design for those bit fields which represent a True/False condition? Dan From dwaters at usinternet.com Thu Jul 31 15:11:15 2008 From: dwaters at usinternet.com (Dan Waters) Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2008 15:11:15 -0500 Subject: [AccessD] Almost Friday Humor Message-ID: <818FD709E9284F26A584E135365AF21A@danwaters> In Access Help, look for 'Configuring the Microsoft Jet Database Engine for ODBC Access'. At the bottom click on See Also. I know I just got done saying this one's better, but do you have to put this in Help? :-) Dan From Lambert.Heenan at AIG.com Thu Jul 31 15:12:41 2008 From: Lambert.Heenan at AIG.com (Heenan, Lambert) Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2008 15:12:41 -0500 Subject: [AccessD] Database Corruption? Message-ID: <34C8A2AB1EF3564CB0D64DB6AFFDD5C217E62AE0@XLIVMBX35bkup.aig.com> Can we see a little more of the code context? At lease the whole If/Then/Else statement? Lambert -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of RANDALL R ANTHONY Sent: Thursday, July 31, 2008 2:31 PM To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: [AccessD] Database Corruption? A97, FE and BE Hey everyone, I've got another one of those bizarre problems that just cropped up. Made some extensive changes to a db. During some regression testing a user reported a problem that the db was getting hung up. Stepping through the code I found this anomaly: When the code hits this line If DCount("ClaimId", "Audit Detail", Criteria) = 0 Then it jumps to this public function (which is not supposed to be invoked until way down the line) Public Function ErrorCodeList(ClaimID As String) As String When it does this, a) it hangs up because there's a boatload of records, b) shouldn't be happening. I finally resolved it (or so I thought) by doing the ol' /decompile switch on my frontend. Now my test FE and BE work. However, when I connect my clean FE to the production BE, the same thing happens. I've created a new db and imported all the tables into a new container, no go. Any clues would be sincerely appreciated. Thanks! -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From RRANTHON at sentara.com Thu Jul 31 15:23:02 2008 From: RRANTHON at sentara.com (RANDALL R ANTHONY) Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2008 16:23:02 -0400 Subject: [AccessD] Database Corruption? In-Reply-To: <34C8A2AB1EF3564CB0D64DB6AFFDD5C217E62AE0@XLIVMBX35bkup.aig.com> References: <34C8A2AB1EF3564CB0D64DB6AFFDD5C217E62AE0@XLIVMBX35bkup.aig.com> Message-ID: <200807312023.m6VKND83017742@databaseadvisors.com> If Nz(DCount("ClaimId", "Audit Detail", Criteria), 0) = 0 Then MsgBox "There are no claims which meet the specified criteria." Else DoCmd.OpenReport "Claim Detail Report", acPreview, , Criteria End If >>> "Heenan, Lambert" 7/31/2008 4:12 PM >>> Can we see a little more of the code context? At lease the whole If/Then/Else statement? Lambert -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of RANDALL R ANTHONY Sent: Thursday, July 31, 2008 2:31 PM To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: [AccessD] Database Corruption? A97, FE and BE Hey everyone, I've got another one of those bizarre problems that just cropped up. Made some extensive changes to a db. During some regression testing a user reported a problem that the db was getting hung up. Stepping through the code I found this anomaly: When the code hits this line If DCount("ClaimId", "Audit Detail", Criteria) = 0 Then it jumps to this public function (which is not supposed to be invoked until way down the line) Public Function ErrorCodeList(ClaimID As String) As String When it does this, a) it hangs up because there's a boatload of records, b) shouldn't be happening. I finally resolved it (or so I thought) by doing the ol' /decompile switch on my frontend. Now my test FE and BE work. However, when I connect my clean FE to the production BE, the same thing happens. I've created a new db and imported all the tables into a new container, no go. Any clues would be sincerely appreciated. Thanks! -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com ( http://www.databaseadvisors.com/ ) -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com ( http://www.databaseadvisors.com/ ) From rockysmolin at bchacc.com Thu Jul 31 16:16:35 2008 From: rockysmolin at bchacc.com (Rocky Smolin at Beach Access Software) Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2008 14:16:35 -0700 Subject: [AccessD] Database Corruption? In-Reply-To: <200807311917.m6VJHKKc011357@databaseadvisors.com> References: <200807311831.m6VIVWdL016880@databaseadvisors.com><310215F6BEEEA84A8D6366F219C763314A0B94DA66@PDAWM07C.ad.sprint.com> <200807311917.m6VJHKKc011357@databaseadvisors.com> Message-ID: <056901c8f352$b6c3c410$0301a8c0@HAL9005> If you display CRITERIA in a MsgBox what does it have? Rocky Smolin Beach Access Software 858-259-4334 www.e-z-mrp.com www.bchacc.com -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of RANDALL R ANTHONY Sent: Thursday, July 31, 2008 12:17 PM To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving Subject: Re: [AccessD] Database Corruption? Grasping at straws, I added that code Don. No go. Just to reiterate, it's not the that line of code, but that fact that it's jumping to a function that is not being called from there. It's as if seeing "Claim ID" in the first line, it's thinking it needs to call that function. >>> "McGillivray, Don [IT]" 7/31/2008 >>> 2:59 PM >>> Dunno if this will help . . . Sometimes unexpected values in the table being aggregated will cause the domain aggregate function to puke, so I often wrap them in an Nz() function to ensure that a valid value is returned. Something like: If Nz(DCount("ClaimId", "Audit Detail", Criteria), 0) = 0 Then Might be worth a try . . . -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of RANDALL R ANTHONY Sent: Thursday, July 31, 2008 11:31 AM To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: [AccessD] Database Corruption? A97, FE and BE Hey everyone, I've got another one of those bizarre problems that just cropped up. Made some extensive changes to a db. During some regression testing a user reported a problem that the db was getting hung up. Stepping through the code I found this anomaly: When the code hits this line If DCount("ClaimId", "Audit Detail", Criteria) = 0 Then it jumps to this public function (which is not supposed to be invoked until way down the line) Public Function ErrorCodeList(ClaimID As String) As String When it does this, a) it hangs up because there's a boatload of records, b) shouldn't be happening. I finally resolved it (or so I thought) by doing the ol' /decompile switch on my frontend. Now my test FE and BE work. However, when I connect my clean FE to the production BE, the same thing happens. I've created a new db and imported all the tables into a new container, no go. Any clues would be sincerely appreciated. Thanks! -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From Gustav at cactus.dk Thu Jul 31 16:37:17 2008 From: Gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock) Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2008 23:37:17 +0200 Subject: [AccessD] upsizing Message-ID: Hi Charlotte One way to get around this - if you really need to handle the value as a numeric - is to use Abs(): If Abs([YourYesNoField]) = 1 Then ' something End If Another is to use DataTableAdapters and/or DAL to isolate you from this low-level stuff. I couldn't imagine anything else than this is what you do, but your reply indicates not. Is that really so? /gustav >>> cfoust at infostatsystems.com 31-07-2008 17:25 >>> We have to be careful in our .Net code to always test for 0 or <> 0 because we run against both Access and SQL Server. Trying to test for True crashes on one or the other. Charlotte Foust -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Susan Harkins Sent: Wednesday, July 30, 2008 4:48 PM To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving Subject: Re: [AccessD] upsizing oooooooooooooo.... I like that. :) Susan H. > Possiby because Access uses -1 for True and you can't represent that > with a bit? > > What value does SSMA store insert a True record (1 or -1)? > > > On 30 Jul 2008 at 18:45, Susan Harkins wrote: > >> SSMA converts Access Yes/No fields to tinyint, instead of bit -- does >> anyone have an explanation for that? >> >> My guess is it's because SQL Server's bit didn't support NULL's until >> 7.0, but it seems like the wizard would keep up with something like >> that. I really can't recall if Access' Yes/No always supported NULLs >> or not. >> >> Susan H. From dwaters at usinternet.com Thu Jul 31 17:02:49 2008 From: dwaters at usinternet.com (Dan Waters) Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2008 17:02:49 -0500 Subject: [AccessD] upsizing In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: With the BE I just upsized, all the Yes/No fields became bits. I went through all those fields and set Allow Nulls to False. Now the only to values that can be entered into the bit fields are -1 and 0. I set up a recordset to change iteratively change the value from True to False then True then False, etc, and everything worked just as if I had been using an Access table. I went back and tested one field by setting Allow Nulls to True. My code then displayed the value as False if I set the field to Null in code. Dan -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gustav Brock Sent: Thursday, July 31, 2008 4:37 PM To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: Re: [AccessD] upsizing Hi Charlotte One way to get around this - if you really need to handle the value as a numeric - is to use Abs(): If Abs([YourYesNoField]) = 1 Then ' something End If Another is to use DataTableAdapters and/or DAL to isolate you from this low-level stuff. I couldn't imagine anything else than this is what you do, but your reply indicates not. Is that really so? /gustav >>> cfoust at infostatsystems.com 31-07-2008 17:25 >>> We have to be careful in our .Net code to always test for 0 or <> 0 because we run against both Access and SQL Server. Trying to test for True crashes on one or the other. Charlotte Foust -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Susan Harkins Sent: Wednesday, July 30, 2008 4:48 PM To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving Subject: Re: [AccessD] upsizing oooooooooooooo.... I like that. :) Susan H. > Possiby because Access uses -1 for True and you can't represent that > with a bit? > > What value does SSMA store insert a True record (1 or -1)? > > > On 30 Jul 2008 at 18:45, Susan Harkins wrote: > >> SSMA converts Access Yes/No fields to tinyint, instead of bit -- does >> anyone have an explanation for that? >> >> My guess is it's because SQL Server's bit didn't support NULL's until >> 7.0, but it seems like the wizard would keep up with something like >> that. I really can't recall if Access' Yes/No always supported NULLs >> or not. >> >> Susan H. -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From Darryl.Collins at coles.com.au Thu Jul 31 18:36:01 2008 From: Darryl.Collins at coles.com.au (Darryl Collins) Date: Fri, 1 Aug 2008 09:36:01 +1000 Subject: [AccessD] Access development on the wane? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <57E6E6CA42105A48B977303A2CDC2720076BF12E29@WPEXCH22.retail.ad.cmltd.net.au> Charlotte, Totally agree with you with your Excel Comment. When I first used Office 2007 my first thought was "My God, they are trying make Excel a database and Access a Spreadsheet". I think both of them end up as lesser products because of it. regards Darryl. -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Charlotte Foust Sent: Friday, 1 August 2008 4:23 AM To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving Subject: Re: [AccessD] Access development on the wane? >>This isn't what MS wants. Well, at least it isn't what they SAY they want. From a developer's perspective, I'd say the handwriting has been on the wall in very large letters for years. MS has never given Access any respect as a development tool themselves, just patted the developers on the head with a "bless your hearts" attitude and kept pitching the product to end users and trying to steer developers to sexier development products with a higher MS profit margin and to SQL Server for everything. IMO they've been in total denial about the need for basic relational understanding because they've been competing with products that appealed to the DYI end user who wouldn't know relational if it bit him, basically the same market as for Excel but with a prettier interface. They've shot themselves in the foot and Access, much as we might love it, is going to continue to compete with FileMaker, et al for the foreseeable future. I think it will continue to be diminished in importance and real meat, regardless of what MS may promise. Charlotte Foust -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Dan Waters Sent: Thursday, July 31, 2008 10:50 AM To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' Subject: Re: [AccessD] Access development on the wane? This isn't what MS wants. VBA will be used in Access 14. And they seem to be trying hard to make significant improvements from a typical user perspective. Dan -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Susan Harkins Sent: Thursday, July 31, 2008 9:23 AM To: AccessD at databaseadvisors.com Subject: [AccessD] Access development on the wane? Although I think Access is still healthy and will be around for a long time, readers are contacting me privately with concerns. Some of them aren't getting as much Access work as they use to. I'm just curious -- what are the contractors on this list experiencing -- have you noticed a slow down in Access development? Susan H. -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com This email and any attachments may contain privileged and confidential information and are intended for the named addressee only. If you have received this e-mail in error, please notify the sender and delete this e-mail immediately. Any confidentiality, privilege or copyright is not waived or lost because this e-mail has been sent to you in error. It is your responsibility to check this e-mail and any attachments for viruses. No warranty is made that this material is free from computer virus or any other defect or error. Any loss/damage incurred by using this material is not the sender's responsibility. The sender's entire liability will be limited to resupplying the material. From Darryl.Collins at coles.com.au Thu Jul 31 18:41:42 2008 From: Darryl.Collins at coles.com.au (Darryl Collins) Date: Fri, 1 Aug 2008 09:41:42 +1000 Subject: [AccessD] Access development on the wane? In-Reply-To: <030301c8f319$026a44f0$2f8601c7@SusanOne> Message-ID: <57E6E6CA42105A48B977303A2CDC2720076BF12E2A@WPEXCH22.retail.ad.cmltd.net.au> Hi Susan, I am finding more and more (both with Excel and Access) that the dataset is stored in SQL Server and presented in either Access or Excel for the user. Where I work Access is mainly used as Front End to SQL Server and almost never as a stand-alone app. A lot of jobs here are now advertised with need some exposure to SQL Server. SQL server has lots of raw grunt, but Access is a much faster and easier to set up as a UI with nice combo boxes and the like. Even so, nearly all the security, processing and queries are done on SQL Server and the data is just populated into the Access FE as required. Maybe one day Microsoft will be like Lotus and lose the desktop apps market to someone else. regards Darryl. -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Susan Harkins Sent: Friday, 1 August 2008 12:23 AM To: AccessD at databaseadvisors.com Subject: [AccessD] Access development on the wane? Although I think Access is still healthy and will be around for a long time, readers are contacting me privately with concerns. Some of them aren't getting as much Access work as they use to. I'm just curious -- what are the contractors on this list experiencing -- have you noticed a slow down in Access development? Susan H. -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com This email and any attachments may contain privileged and confidential information and are intended for the named addressee only. If you have received this e-mail in error, please notify the sender and delete this e-mail immediately. Any confidentiality, privilege or copyright is not waived or lost because this e-mail has been sent to you in error. It is your responsibility to check this e-mail and any attachments for viruses. No warranty is made that this material is free from computer virus or any other defect or error. Any loss/damage incurred by using this material is not the sender's responsibility. The sender's entire liability will be limited to resupplying the material. From randall.anthony at cox.net Thu Jul 31 18:49:34 2008 From: randall.anthony at cox.net (Randall Anthony) Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2008 19:49:34 -0400 Subject: [AccessD] Database Corruption? In-Reply-To: <056901c8f352$b6c3c410$0301a8c0@HAL9005> Message-ID: <002401c8f368$15c835d0$1d21650a@DF2PJY11> Just parameter stuff, for instance: Datefield between #7/1/08# and #7/28/08# and AuditType = 1 and BusUnit = 2 -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Rocky Smolin at Beach Access Software Sent: Thursday, July 31, 2008 5:17 PM To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' Subject: Re: [AccessD] Database Corruption? If you display CRITERIA in a MsgBox what does it have? Rocky Smolin Beach Access Software 858-259-4334 www.e-z-mrp.com www.bchacc.com -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of RANDALL R ANTHONY Sent: Thursday, July 31, 2008 12:17 PM To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving Subject: Re: [AccessD] Database Corruption? Grasping at straws, I added that code Don. No go. Just to reiterate, it's not the that line of code, but that fact that it's jumping to a function that is not being called from there. It's as if seeing "Claim ID" in the first line, it's thinking it needs to call that function. >>> "McGillivray, Don [IT]" 7/31/2008 >>> 2:59 PM >>> Dunno if this will help . . . Sometimes unexpected values in the table being aggregated will cause the domain aggregate function to puke, so I often wrap them in an Nz() function to ensure that a valid value is returned. Something like: If Nz(DCount("ClaimId", "Audit Detail", Criteria), 0) = 0 Then Might be worth a try . . . -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of RANDALL R ANTHONY Sent: Thursday, July 31, 2008 11:31 AM To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: [AccessD] Database Corruption? A97, FE and BE Hey everyone, I've got another one of those bizarre problems that just cropped up. Made some extensive changes to a db. During some regression testing a user reported a problem that the db was getting hung up. Stepping through the code I found this anomaly: When the code hits this line If DCount("ClaimId", "Audit Detail", Criteria) = 0 Then it jumps to this public function (which is not supposed to be invoked until way down the line) Public Function ErrorCodeList(ClaimID As String) As String When it does this, a) it hangs up because there's a boatload of records, b) shouldn't be happening. I finally resolved it (or so I thought) by doing the ol' /decompile switch on my frontend. Now my test FE and BE work. However, when I connect my clean FE to the production BE, the same thing happens. I've created a new db and imported all the tables into a new container, no go. Any clues would be sincerely appreciated. Thanks! -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From john at winhaven.net Thu Jul 31 18:55:19 2008 From: john at winhaven.net (John Bartow) Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2008 18:55:19 -0500 Subject: [AccessD] Access with MySQL BE Message-ID: <200807312355.m6VNt6Eh030724@databaseadvisors.com> Has anyone used Access as a front end for a MySQL DB via the Internet. There will be only 1 user. John B. From cfoust at infostatsystems.com Thu Jul 31 19:44:22 2008 From: cfoust at infostatsystems.com (Charlotte Foust) Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2008 17:44:22 -0700 Subject: [AccessD] Access development on the wane? In-Reply-To: References: <030301c8f319$026a44f0$2f8601c7@SusanOne><0ED31073DE024BB0AB07E0C97B88A736@danwaters> Message-ID: Your glass is half full, Dan. To me, A2007 was the biggest horse laugh MS has had at our expense. They mostly added UI stuff that does nothing but frustrate developers like me who have worked with the thing since 1.0 was released and aren't looking for cosmetic improvements. Frankly, I can't be bothered with anything but the most lightweight usage of ANY PART of Office 2007, most especially Access, which I avoid completely. Charlotte Foust -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Dan Waters Sent: Thursday, July 31, 2008 12:21 PM To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' Subject: Re: [AccessD] Access development on the wane? Well . . . . , Access 2007 was the largest change between revisions that Access has seen. I read that the reason for this was that the Access group within MS had been taken out from under the SQL Server group. In reading between the lines, the SQL Server group believed that without Access their market would be larger, and so they minimized support internally and also had their strong marketing arm denigrate Access whenever they had a chance. This often 'stuck' on IT departments who often want the latest, best, etc. Thus Access wasn't given the respect it does deserve, and we all know how IT folks often feel about using Access. I do believe that developers who know both SQL Server and Access can make a pretty clear recommendation as to which should be used in a specific situation. Now if we could just get the SQL Server group to stay in their own pond, Access would have clear sailing! So, I believe that the tide turned a few years ago, symbolized by the release of Access 2007. At least I'm hopeful . . . :-) Dan -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Charlotte Foust Sent: Thursday, July 31, 2008 1:23 PM To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving Subject: Re: [AccessD] Access development on the wane? >>This isn't what MS wants. Well, at least it isn't what they SAY they want. From a developer's perspective, I'd say the handwriting has been on the wall in very large letters for years. MS has never given Access any respect as a development tool themselves, just patted the developers on the head with a "bless your hearts" attitude and kept pitching the product to end users and trying to steer developers to sexier development products with a higher MS profit margin and to SQL Server for everything. IMO they've been in total denial about the need for basic relational understanding because they've been competing with products that appealed to the DYI end user who wouldn't know relational if it bit him, basically the same market as for Excel but with a prettier interface. They've shot themselves in the foot and Access, much as we might love it, is going to continue to compete with FileMaker, et al for the foreseeable future. I think it will continue to be diminished in importance and real meat, regardless of what MS may promise. Charlotte Foust -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Dan Waters Sent: Thursday, July 31, 2008 10:50 AM To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' Subject: Re: [AccessD] Access development on the wane? This isn't what MS wants. VBA will be used in Access 14. And they seem to be trying hard to make significant improvements from a typical user perspective. Dan -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Susan Harkins Sent: Thursday, July 31, 2008 9:23 AM To: AccessD at databaseadvisors.com Subject: [AccessD] Access development on the wane? Although I think Access is still healthy and will be around for a long time, readers are contacting me privately with concerns. Some of them aren't getting as much Access work as they use to. I'm just curious -- what are the contractors on this list experiencing -- have you noticed a slow down in Access development? Susan H. -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From cfoust at infostatsystems.com Thu Jul 31 19:46:20 2008 From: cfoust at infostatsystems.com (Charlotte Foust) Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2008 17:46:20 -0700 Subject: [AccessD] Access Upsizing In-Reply-To: <30CD786ED4F74ADA9A59DD62E61A9006@danwaters> References: <30CD786ED4F74ADA9A59DD62E61A9006@danwaters> Message-ID: No we don't do it at the table level, we handle it through UI and data tier means. That way, if some genius goes in an changes the field setting (yes, our client admins have access, and they're the DBAs), our app won't break. Charlotte Foust -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Dan Waters Sent: Thursday, July 31, 2008 12:47 PM To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' Subject: [AccessD] Access Upsizing Charlotte, You said that you check for =0 or <>0, rather than check for True or False. Do you set Allow Nulls = False in the table design for those bit fields which represent a True/False condition? Dan -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From cfoust at infostatsystems.com Thu Jul 31 19:50:07 2008 From: cfoust at infostatsystems.com (Charlotte Foust) Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2008 17:50:07 -0700 Subject: [AccessD] upsizing In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: We do use typed datasets (not datatableadapters, they're what our typed datasets use), but those go out the window the minute you execute SQL with ADO.Net directly against a datasource. And there's no such thing as an absolute Null. If it's possible to break our app, the clients will do so and our code is written to handle Access or SQL using the same data providers. Charlotte Foust -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gustav Brock Sent: Thursday, July 31, 2008 2:37 PM To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: Re: [AccessD] upsizing Hi Charlotte One way to get around this - if you really need to handle the value as a numeric - is to use Abs(): If Abs([YourYesNoField]) = 1 Then ' something End If Another is to use DataTableAdapters and/or DAL to isolate you from this low-level stuff. I couldn't imagine anything else than this is what you do, but your reply indicates not. Is that really so? /gustav >>> cfoust at infostatsystems.com 31-07-2008 17:25 >>> We have to be careful in our .Net code to always test for 0 or <> 0 because we run against both Access and SQL Server. Trying to test for True crashes on one or the other. Charlotte Foust -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Susan Harkins Sent: Wednesday, July 30, 2008 4:48 PM To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving Subject: Re: [AccessD] upsizing oooooooooooooo.... I like that. :) Susan H. > Possiby because Access uses -1 for True and you can't represent that > with a bit? > > What value does SSMA store insert a True record (1 or -1)? > > > On 30 Jul 2008 at 18:45, Susan Harkins wrote: > >> SSMA converts Access Yes/No fields to tinyint, instead of bit -- does >> anyone have an explanation for that? >> >> My guess is it's because SQL Server's bit didn't support NULL's until >> 7.0, but it seems like the wizard would keep up with something like >> that. I really can't recall if Access' Yes/No always supported NULLs >> or not. >> >> Susan H. -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From cfoust at infostatsystems.com Thu Jul 31 19:51:13 2008 From: cfoust at infostatsystems.com (Charlotte Foust) Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2008 17:51:13 -0700 Subject: [AccessD] upsizing In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: In Access, that's true. In SQL Server, 1 is true and 0 is false. If you throw a -1 at it, it spits up all over you. Charlotte Foust -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Dan Waters Sent: Thursday, July 31, 2008 3:03 PM To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' Subject: Re: [AccessD] upsizing With the BE I just upsized, all the Yes/No fields became bits. I went through all those fields and set Allow Nulls to False. Now the only to values that can be entered into the bit fields are -1 and 0. I set up a recordset to change iteratively change the value from True to False then True then False, etc, and everything worked just as if I had been using an Access table. I went back and tested one field by setting Allow Nulls to True. My code then displayed the value as False if I set the field to Null in code. Dan -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gustav Brock Sent: Thursday, July 31, 2008 4:37 PM To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: Re: [AccessD] upsizing Hi Charlotte One way to get around this - if you really need to handle the value as a numeric - is to use Abs(): If Abs([YourYesNoField]) = 1 Then ' something End If Another is to use DataTableAdapters and/or DAL to isolate you from this low-level stuff. I couldn't imagine anything else than this is what you do, but your reply indicates not. Is that really so? /gustav >>> cfoust at infostatsystems.com 31-07-2008 17:25 >>> We have to be careful in our .Net code to always test for 0 or <> 0 because we run against both Access and SQL Server. Trying to test for True crashes on one or the other. Charlotte Foust -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Susan Harkins Sent: Wednesday, July 30, 2008 4:48 PM To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving Subject: Re: [AccessD] upsizing oooooooooooooo.... I like that. :) Susan H. > Possiby because Access uses -1 for True and you can't represent that > with a bit? > > What value does SSMA store insert a True record (1 or -1)? > > > On 30 Jul 2008 at 18:45, Susan Harkins wrote: > >> SSMA converts Access Yes/No fields to tinyint, instead of bit -- does >> anyone have an explanation for that? >> >> My guess is it's because SQL Server's bit didn't support NULL's until >> 7.0, but it seems like the wizard would keep up with something like >> that. I really can't recall if Access' Yes/No always supported NULLs >> or not. >> >> Susan H. -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com From markamatte at hotmail.com Thu Jul 31 21:47:27 2008 From: markamatte at hotmail.com (Mark A Matte) Date: Fri, 1 Aug 2008 02:47:27 +0000 Subject: [AccessD] Almost Friday Humor In-Reply-To: <818FD709E9284F26A584E135365AF21A@danwaters> References: <818FD709E9284F26A584E135365AF21A@danwaters> Message-ID: That is AWSOME!!!...I got a good laugh from that!!. Mark > From: dwaters at usinternet.com > To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com > Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2008 15:11:15 -0500 > Subject: [AccessD] Almost Friday Humor > > > In Access Help, look for 'Configuring the Microsoft Jet Database Engine for > ODBC Access'. > > At the bottom click on See Also. > > I know I just got done saying this one's better, but do you have to put this > in Help? > > :-) > > Dan > > > > -- > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com _________________________________________________________________ With Windows Live for mobile, your contacts travel with you. http://www.windowslive.com/mobile/overview.html?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_mobile_072008 From Darryl.Collins at coles.com.au Thu Jul 31 22:03:09 2008 From: Darryl.Collins at coles.com.au (Darryl Collins) Date: Fri, 1 Aug 2008 13:03:09 +1000 Subject: [AccessD] Almost Friday Humor In-Reply-To: <818FD709E9284F26A584E135365AF21A@danwaters> Message-ID: <57E6E6CA42105A48B977303A2CDC2720076BF12E34@WPEXCH22.retail.ad.cmltd.net.au> It is really weird. In Access 2000 at work I can see this option in the help file, but it won't respond when selected. Everything else around it does respond (by respond I mean, populate the help text with details). I will have a look at home later tonight and see what happens.... -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Dan Waters Sent: Friday, 1 August 2008 6:11 AM To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' Subject: [AccessD] Almost Friday Humor In Access Help, look for 'Configuring the Microsoft Jet Database Engine for ODBC Access'. At the bottom click on See Also. I know I just got done saying this one's better, but do you have to put this in Help? :-) Dan -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com This email and any attachments may contain privileged and confidential information and are intended for the named addressee only. If you have received this e-mail in error, please notify the sender and delete this e-mail immediately. Any confidentiality, privilege or copyright is not waived or lost because this e-mail has been sent to you in error. It is your responsibility to check this e-mail and any attachments for viruses. No warranty is made that this material is free from computer virus or any other defect or error. Any loss/damage incurred by using this material is not the sender's responsibility. The sender's entire liability will be limited to resupplying the material.