[AccessD] Downgrading Vista

Michael Bahr jedi at charm.net
Wed Jul 16 11:02:39 CDT 2008


> Hi Karen:
>
> Just one small note to start; What is PCP/MySQL... is this some new toxic
> programming language?
>
> I sent of a note to Hans, my son-in-law about your problems with Vista and
> here is his response:
>
> <comment>
> Yep. Downgrading from Vista to XP with SATA drives is a pain in the
> backside. I did it myself as well for one of our work PC's. It does indeed

As Drew already mentioned that all is needed is going into the bios and
disabling ACHI mode.  Vista has these SATA drivers but XP does not.  This
is why you required to install the drivers from the "floppy" with it on. 
Once you disable ACHI you should be able install XP.

> require a floppy drive with the drivers, but fortunately I had a number of
> spare floppy drives lying about which I could throw in for the
> installation
> process. 'Course, if you happen to have a very fancy server like some of
> the
> ones I play with, the bios can mount a virtual floppy drive. ;) The
> headache
> doesn't end there though, as in my case, the HP I was downgrading Vista to
> XP on did not provide XP drivers on their support site for many of the
> components on the PC (motherboard, integrated sound board, etc). It meant
> identifying all these components manually and tracking down the drivers
> manually. Sigh.
>
> Going the Ubuntu route is probably wise. You can then install XP on some
> virtual machine, like Parallels ($$$), VMWare ($$$) or Virtual Box (Free
> for
> non-commercial use). VirtualBox is pretty good now days, so I'd recommend
> it
> for general use. You might get a few headaches trying anything fancy like
> mounting your iPod via USB. And you don't get 3D accelerated graphics,
> which
> VMWare can do. I was lucky to sign up for a VMWare Fusion beta test, so I
> got VMWare for free for my MacBook and I like it.
> </comment>
>
> If you are having any other problems with your new environment just send
> along a comment.
>
> HTH
> Jim
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Karen
> Rosenstiel
> Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 9:26 PM
> To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] Downgrading Vista
>
> Guess what? That's exactly what I did.
>
> After the first call with that Dell idiot, I did some research. Sure
> enough,
> if you get a box with Vista Business or Ultimate pre-installed, you can
> downgrad to XP. So I called Dell back and told them that. This time they
> flat refused to help me.
>
> So I called MS. Well, credit where credit is due! After MS verified my XP
> cd
> was a legitimate retail purchase, I got a tech guy from New Delhi (I asked
> him) who was intelligent, efficient and helpful. Spoke English pretty well
> too. But basically what it came down to was some pci drivers. He
> apologized
> profusely but referred me back to Dell for assistance in disabling the
> drivers.
>
> So I said the hell with it and installed Ubuntu. I had a DVD with 10 full
> distros, but I do like Ubuntu/Kubuntu the best. It's a little cranky on my
> box -- no network yet -- but did a good job of picking up most of the
> hardware. Tomorrow I will install XAMPP, an easy installer for Apache,
> MySQL, PCP and Perl. Very painless. Then I can use this box to learn
> PCP/MySQL. I have a big project I volunteered for to redo someone else's
> web
> site -- a pretty site but gawdawful code.
>
> For right now, it's bed time.
>
> Thanks for all the support
>
> Regards,
>
> Karen Rosenstiel
> Seattle WA USA
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim Lawrence
> Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 2:31 PM
> To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] Downgrading Vista
>
> Karen:
>
> If the worse comes to the worse you can always switch to Ububtu Linux
> (easier than XP/Vista apparently) and install Wine or Parallel so you can
> run some of your MS apps. (The latest versions of Linux have no issues
> with
> SATA drives).
>
> Jim
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of
> krosenstiel at comcast.net
> Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 10:15 AM
> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] Downgrading Vista
>
> I do have a USB floppy. Got it when I got the laptop just for such current
> episodes.
>
> --
> Karen Rosenstiel
> Seattle WA USA
>
>  -------------- Original message ----------------------
> From: "Edward S Zuris" <edzedz at comcast.net>
>>
>>  You can buy a floppy hooked to a USB.
>>
>>  I have used those in the past on Laptops  with no floppy drive.
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Charlotte
>> Foust
>> Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 9:29 AM
>> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
>> Subject: Re: [AccessD] Downgrading Vista
>>
>>
>> I hope you don't really mean floppy disk, John.  My laptop doesn't
>> have floppy drives and neither do any of the others I've seen.
>>
>> Charlotte Foust
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of John Bartow
>> Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 9:20 AM
>> To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
>> Subject: Re: [AccessD] Downgrading Vista
>>
>> If you have either SCSI or SATA drives you can install XP but while
>> doing so you must watch for the (initial blue) screen that asks you to
>> press F6 for additional drivers (or something to that effect). You
>> then need to have those drivers ready on a floppy disk.
>>
>> HTH
>> John B.
>>
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