[AccessD] VBA Unbound data entry / update form

Drew Wutka DWUTKA at Marlow.com
Tue Jun 10 18:44:54 CDT 2008


Then why did you post this: 

"> I never asked for that, nor do I expect that to happen, your code or
> mine.  Unbound using no locks simply cannot function in the same
manner
> as a bound form creating locks." -- JWC

Drew

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of jwcolby
Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2008 5:50 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] VBA Unbound data entry / update form

I know that.

John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com


Drew Wutka wrote:
> Not entirely true John.  Unbound DOES use locks.  It just doesn't
'hold'
> the lock if designed correctly.
> 
> Drew 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of jwcolby
> Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2008 1:44 PM
> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] VBA Unbound data entry / update form
> 
>  > You want code that will work as if the thing was bound. 
> Not gonna happen, roll your sleeves up.
> 
> I never asked for that, nor do I expect that to happen, your code or
> mine.  Unbound using no locks simply cannot function in the same
manner
> as a bound form creating locks.
> 
> John W. Colby
> www.ColbyConsulting.com
> 
> 
> Charlotte Foust wrote:
>> Hah!  You want code, write your own!!  LOL
>>
>> You want code that will work as if the thing was bound.  Not gonna 
>> happen, roll your sleeves up.
>>
>> Charlotte Foust
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of jwcolby
>> Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2008 10:00 AM
>> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
>> Subject: Re: [AccessD] VBA Unbound data entry / update form
>>
>> LOL, OK.  The devil is in the details after all.
>>
>> I am not really interested in locking.  In my understanding of
unbound
> 
>> forms, you don't hold locks, and if you are, you might as well go
> bound.
>> Which leads us squarely back to update strategies, and testing for 
>> modifications by other users.  All that good stuff that the
> "unbounders"
>> claim to handle but have never piped up with even general strategies,

>> never mind code.
>>
>> John W. Colby
>> www.ColbyConsulting.com
>>
>>
>> Rocky Smolin at Beach Access Software wrote:
>>> Not ignoring.  It wasn't an exhaustive treatise on the subject.
Just
> 
>>> a 'how to get started'.  Locking:  you have to look up record and 
>>> page
>>> locking stuff for DAO.
>>>
>>>
>>> Rocky Smolin
>>> Beach Access Software
>>> 858-259-4334
>>> www.e-z-mrp.com
>>> www.bchacc.com
>>>  
>>>  
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>>> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of jwcolby
>>> Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2008 9:07 AM
>>> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
>>> Subject: Re: [AccessD] VBA Unbound data entry / update form
>>>
>>> Rocky,
>>>
>>> I hate to jump all over your method because I want a method to use, 
>>> but you are completely ignoring locking / update issues.  What 
>>> happened if another user updated the record between the time you 
>>> loaded yours and the time you write it back?
>>>
>>> John W. Colby
>>> www.ColbyConsulting.com
>>>
>>>
>>> Rocky Smolin at Beach Access Software wrote:
>>>> I know how to make an unbound form but I haven't got enough nerve
to
> 
>>>> present such heresy - it runs counter to strongly held religious
>> beliefs.
>>>> OK - briefly - but you didn't hear it from me.
>>>>
>>>> 1. Design your form as you would a bound form but no Control Source

>>>> in the text boxes.
>>>> 2. Create a recordset in the Open event of the form (DAO or ADO - I

>>>> prefer
>>>> DAO) using pretty much the same SQL or query as you would for your 
>>>> Record Source in a bound form.
>>>> 3. Add a module to put the fields from the current record of the 
>>>> recordset into the text boxes which you can call whenever you want 
>>>> to
>>>> display the data on your form.
>>>> 4. Add a module to put the values in the text boxes into the fields

>>>> of the current record (in DAO use .Edit or .Add and .Update) which 
>>>> you can call whenever you want to write the textbox values back to
>> the table.
>>>> 5. I always put my own navigation buttons on the unbound for - 
>>>> First,
>>>> Last, Next, Previous with Click events that move the recordset
point
> 
>>>> appropriately.
>>>>
>>>> HTH
>>>>
>>>> Rocky Smolin
>>>> Beach Access Software
>>>> 858-259-4334
>>>> www.e-z-mrp.com
>>>> www.bchacc.com
>>>>  
>>>>  
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>>>> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim 
>>>> Lawrence
>>>> Sent: Monday, June 09, 2008 5:38 PM
>>>> To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
>>>> Subject: Re: [AccessD] VBA Unbound data entry / update form
>>>>
>>>> Hi Jennifer:
>>>>
>>>> I have no idea how to create bound Access forms. ;-) The last bound

>>>> database that I have worked with was back in '97.
>>>>
>>>> Jim
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>>>> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jennifer

>>>> Gross
>>>> Sent: Tuesday, May 27, 2008 5:12 PM
>>>> To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
>>>> Subject: Re: [AccessD] VBA Unbound data entry / update form
>>>>
>>>> I have no idea how to create an unbound form in Access.  I always 
>>>> use
>>>> bound forms.  Though I would be interested to know how it's done.
>>>> Unless I've got it wrong, that seems to be the basic question here
-
> 
>>>> For those of you who do it, how do you create an unbound form?  How

>>>> do you populate the textboxes initially and then how do you save
the
>>> information back to the tables?
>>>> It's beginning to sound like nobody really does it.
>>>>
>>>> Jennifer
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