[AccessD] Feedback Needed - Round 2

Jim Lawrence accessd at shaw.ca
Sun Jun 22 16:41:24 CDT 2008


If that is the case then I will be very pleased. FF and most of it Mozilla
derivatives, though not perfect have been very close to complete compliance.


This of course means that there will now be an additional IE to program for.

Jim 

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of William Hindman
Sent: Sunday, June 22, 2008 1:27 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Feedback Needed - Round 2

...actually MS is apparently listening ...IE8 beta defaults to Strict mode 
which to all appearances is strictly and fully W3C compliant ...the first 
browser to do so ...and of course, in that mode, it breaks virtually every 
existing website because despite all the blather, no one else is fully 
compliant either ...be careful you don't get what you wish for :)

William
"Sen. McCain will bring a lifetime of experience to the campaign...  Sen. 
Obama will bring a speech that he gave." Hillary Clinton

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From: "Jim Lawrence" <accessd at shaw.ca>
Sent: Sunday, June 22, 2008 1:34 PM
To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'" 
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Feedback Needed - Round 2

> Hi All:
>
> Actually Safari and FF tend to be very much alike as they both have the 
> same
> engine. IE prides it's self on never being compatible, having a better way
> to do things and ignoring W3C standard of which MS agreed to only months
> before.
>
> There is hardly a web site that I have completed that do not have 
> something
> like:
>
> <link rel="stylesheet"
> href='http://www.someoneswebsite.com/css/standard.css' type="text/css"
> media="screen, projection" />
>
> <!--[if IE]>
> <link rel="stylesheet" href='http://www.someoneswebsite.com
> /css/ie_fixes.css' type="text/css" media="screen, projection" />
> <![endif]-->
>
> ...In the header so that IE deviations can be managed.
>
> AJAX is even more fun where all other browsers have only one way to 
> connect
> to the server software and IE has three... so far.
>
> ...and then if you get any more involved with JavaScript than the basics
> there is always a standard way to code for most major browsers and then
> there is a way to code for IE. Any of us who have used JS classes will 
> know
> the pain.
>
> I could rant on for some time but I am sure no one at MS is listening.
>
> Jim
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of William Hindman
> Sent: Sunday, June 22, 2008 4:49 AM
> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] Feedback Needed - Round 2
>
> ...just trying to get a site fully operational in ie6/7/8 and ff2/3 is at
> least 1/4 of the time spent in building them and limits a lot of choices
> ...and then the client hears from a Safari user :(
>
> William
>
> --------------------------------------------------
> From: "Bob Gajewski" <rbgajewski at adelphia.net>
> Sent: Sunday, June 22, 2008 12:05 AM
> To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'"
> <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] Feedback Needed - Round 2
>
>> Mike
>>
>> I'm running IE8 beta ... It *really* doesn't like Rocky's site, but if I
>> turn on the built-in IE7 emulation, it's okay.
>>
>> Bob Gajewski
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Michael Bahr
>> Sent: Saturday, June 21, 2008 23:41 PM
>> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
>> Subject: Re: [AccessD] Feedback Needed - Round 2
>>
>> Tina, as a web developer you must take into account that users do not 
>> have
>> the latest browsers.  In other words design a web site for the lowest
>> common
>> browser (to a point) and/or include checks for which browser and version
>> and
>> use appropriate code.  A lot of people still have IE6 and FF2.x.  Btw FF
>> just released 3.0 this past week on Wednesday I believe--how did you get
>> hold of FF5(??).  I know that IE7 breaks some things that work in IE5/6
>> and
>> FF sometimes does not display things correctly as IE does.  And then 
>> there
>> is Opera and ...
>>
>> Mike...
>>
>>
>>> Hi Rocky,
>>>
>>> I'm a little late getting to this thread, and I see that a number of
>>> the suggestions made have already been implemented.  I'm using FireFox
>>> 5.0 and IE 7.0 to view your site.  When I select a tab, and the new
>>> page is loaded, the heading for that page takes the top left position,
>>> which is really kind of nice.  But, the tab for Home disappears
>>> completely.  To return to the Home page, I must use the Back button on
>>> the toolbar.  I don't find any link on the page to take me back to the
>>> Home page.  I would like a consistent navigation bar somewhere on the
>>> page, one that includes the Home page link as well as all the others.
>>>
>>> Hope this is helpful,
>>> Tina
>>>
>>> Rocky Smolin at Beach Access Software wrote:
>>>> Dear List:
>>>>
>>>> First of all thanks to everyone who responded the first time with
>>>> input on the Beach Access Software web site redesign.
>>>>
>>>> Karen has taken all of your input and reworked the site.  So now
>>>> we're ready to impose on you all again for your feedback.
>>>>
>>>> The site is temporarily stored at
>>>> http://www.bchacc.com/beachtemp/index.html
>>>>
>>>> Any and all comments will be greatly appreciated.
>>>>
>>>> MTIA,
>>>>
>>>> Rocky Smolin
>>>>
>>>> Beach Access Software
>>>>
>>>> 858-259-4334
>>>>
>>>> www.e-z-mrp.com <http://www.e-z-mrp.com/>
>>>>
>>>> www.bchacc.com <http://www.bchacc.com/>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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